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From: quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Bruce Quaglia)
Subject: Re:  smokin' at shows
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:02:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.064236.6113@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack) writes:
>
>In a previous article, quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Big Queer) says:
>>In article <1992Aug20.180051.1294@dirac.physics.sunysb.edu> mfeller@dirac.physics.sunysb.edu (Mark Feller) writes:
>>>In article <1992Aug20.052450.6586@seas.smu.edu> quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Big Queer) writes:
>>>>In article <1992Aug20.002108.19239@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>>>>>quaglia@seas.smu.edu (Big Queer)writes
>>>>>
>>>>>|Well, Yeah, I'm for real. As I mentioned before, if you are stealthy
>>>>>|they really don't know where it came from.
>>>>>
>>>>>Don't you mean if you are a chicken-shit, little piss-ant?
>>>>>
>>>>Well, I could be mistaken, maybe the fact that I'm 6'4" and built made
>>>>them *pretend* they didn't know where it came from...
>>>
>>>  Oh, so you're a muscle-bound power freak then? That would explain a lot.
>>>  More likely you're just a 6'4", built, chicken-shit, little piss-ant.
>>>  Try that water pistol crap with me and you'll be a 6'4", built,
>>>  chicken-shit, little piss-ant with a water pistol up her ass.
>>No actually I'm more like a panda, cute and docile but nobody in their right
>>would knowingly provoke me.....
>
>Look out,  Bruce, the shit is getting deep again!  
>
>>>>No. I wasn't, but if you'd like a piece of me you'll have to come
>>>>to Texas 'cause I don't travel to shows anymore. <you're probably
>>>>stupider than you realize...>
>
>Why would anyone want a "piece" of you, Bruce?
>
>>>  stupid??? Sheesh, read your own posts. You sound like a typical
>>>  Texan. I saw a bunch of 'em on CNN last night. Betcha got one of those
>>>  little pink cowboy hats with the Bush sticker too.
>>>
>>Oh yep thaaaz' right pahdnah. We all cherish our *right* to bear arms down
>>here in the last frontier of freedomthe glorious state of Texass. So y'all bettah watch yer ass if you come down here to George Bush's home state. 
>
>Yup, it is becoming very clear to us.  You are a "Bush" head.
>
>>>  Well, the GD don't seem to want to go to Texas -- can't say I 
>>>  blame them -- the good news being that you won't be at any shows.
>>>
>>>  Have fun at the convention, Bruce. 
>>
>>
>>"ohhh we don't smoke marijuana down by the courthouse,
>>we don't take no trips on LSD...."
>
>We know.  That is what is wrong with you guys.  Without marijuana and
>LSD, all there is left to do is pull on your dick and buttfuck little
>sister Becky down by the ole swimmin hole.
>
>>For someone who was threatening that I should "watch my ass" you sound
>>like a pansy. Is the little ittsy bittsy squirt gun a violent assault
>>on your ohhso sensitive person --schnnokums?
>
>Speaking of pansy's, Bruce, why don't you tell everyone why you got
>your ass kicked out of the Frat your first year?  Can you say
>"come here, little boy"?
>

Hey man - we got family values down here in Texas, don't start queer-batin'
me ya hea'? You must be part of that cultural-elite that Dan Quayle warned
me about-
From: rainbow@ (Queen of Infinite Space)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: top 10 reasons shoreline loves deadheads
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:43:18 GMT
Reply-To: rainbow@ (Queen of Infinite Space)
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: mydland

At the May Shoreline shows, I was delighted to see the
ushers wearing some very cool t-shirts, the backs of which
were emblazoned with "Top 10 reasons Shoreline loves Deadheads".
A recent posting by Mike Tindall mentions them and attributes them
to David Graham. Does someone know the details on this? and who
can remember the reasons?  

Cheers,

Rainbow

--
----------
"The band is just fantastic, that is really what I think,
   and by the way, which one's Pink?"
	   -Pink Floyd,  Wish You were Here
From: ericg@techbook.com (Eric Gutt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Jerry's Musical Education
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:35:04 GMT
Reply-To: ericg@techbook.com (Eric Gutt,,,,)
Followup-To: rec.music.gdead
Distribution: usa
Organization: TECHbooks of Beaverton Oregon - Public Access Unix

The talk of the Dead and music theory sent me to
the archives for Rolling Stone #100 (1/20/1972).

Interview with Jerry.  Talking about growing up in
San Francisco:
Father a musician...always instruments around the house..
lots and lots of abortive piano lessons, "you know...I
can't read, I couldn't learn how to read music, but I could
play by ear.  My family was a singing family,...My brother
and my cousin and I when we were pretty young did a lot
of street corner harmonizing...rock and roll..."

"Trying to play rock and roll piano and stuff...I want a
guitar badly during this time...on my 15th birthday my
mother gave me an accordian."

Traded that for a Danelectro guitar and amp.  Spent 6 or 8
months playing it.  Turned out he had tuned it wrong so had
to start over.  At  17, joined the Army and smuggled the guitar
in.

"I couldn't take lessons--I knew I couldn't take lessons for the
piano--so I had to learn it by myself and I just worked with
my ear."

Out of the army in 9 months.  Moved to Palo Alto, living hand to
mouth.  Met Hunter.  "We had our two cars in an empty lot in East
Palo Alto where they were both broken.  Neither of them ran any
more but we were living in them.  Hunter had these big tins of
crushed pineapple that he'd gotten from the Army, and I had this
glove compartment full of plastic spoons and we had this little
cooperative scene eating this crushed pineapple day after day and
sleeping in the cars and walking around."

And you thought Jerry studied at Juilliard!  More later.

PS: This interview was published as a book.  No idea the title anymore.
    Probably Charles Reich and/or Jann Wenner authors.
-- 
ericg@techbook.COM  Public Access User --- Not affiliated with TECHbooks
Public Access UNIX and Internet at (503) 644-8135 (1200/2400, N81)
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From: wam@athena.mit.edu (William A Mayer)
Subject: Re: smokin' at INDOOR shows
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:47:29 GMT

I always got a kick out of the announcements indoor arenas used to make before
shows, say like the old war memorial/arena tours late 70's early 80'.  Some
PA dreck like "Please remember NO SMOKING indoors" whilst huge billowing
clouds of smoke would roll up off the floor.  Hilarious.

And just last year, at the Boston Garden shows, this little vignette was played
out many a night: (spoken by Garden security person)  "Hey You! Yeah you!! five
rows down and three seats over! Put out that cigarette!"  Of course, in the Garden
there REALLY is a danger of burning the whole bloomin' place down.

Just as some more fuel to the (ahem) fire, for all you folks who get irritated by 
tobacco, what about some head blowin' grass right next to you? (Oh well, THAT'S
different) Seems to me that smoke's smoke, no matter how you blow it.
(flames away!)

Bill Mayer
ILB/MIT
wam@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: burghart@stout.atd.ucar.edu (Chris Burghart)
Subject: Lithuanian roundball shirts
Keywords: shirts, Lithuania, flame-free
Organization: National Center for Atmospheric Research
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:45:30 GMT

The following is a flame-free post:

Since I've seen no affirmative responses to other peoples' requests, I'm
going to ask for myself....  Anybody know where to get hold of Lithuanian
basketball team/Dead tie-dye shirts?  I would like to find at least three for 
myself and friends.  Any confirmation that they were sold in the S.F. area
before the Olympics?  Maybe there are some enterprising artist types out
there who could make reasonable facsimiles of the original?  (I could probably
handle the tie-dying, but I think drawing the slam-dunking skeleton is beyond
my ability.)  Any info appreciated.

Thanks,

Chris Burghart
burghart@ncar.ucar.edu

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: awl2346@ultb.isc.rit.edu (A.W. Lentz)
Subject: Re: thoughts on Veneta cancellation
Originator: awl2346@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:21:58 GMT


What to do with your NON refundable tickets...

GO ANYWAY!!!!   Take a vacation, er, that's what you were going to do
right??   Well, there will be no big band, but I hear the countryside is
great in oregon.  

Do a little hunting, fishing camping.  Just have a real good time.  That
way little goes to waste.  That's what I'd do.  I'd go anyway.  

Once the plan is set, you can't change it, you just have to work around
the obsticles.  In the end, fullfillment is there no matter which way it
comes to you.  Work to change instead of just to throw it away.




-- 
Adam Lentz			If I'm going to hell in a DAT
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!	Then at least I'm enjoying the Ride
!AWL2346@ultb.isc.rit.edu      	
!Bitnet: AWL2346@RITVAX.BITNET
From: david@c-cat.UUCP (dave)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: GDTS - refund for cancelled fall tour instructions
Date: 15 Aug 92 21:17:42 GMT
Organization: Intergalactic Rest Area For Weary Travellers


straight off the hotline...

for Refund of GDTS mail order "glitter tickets" only
 
SASE for refund check.
mail tickets to..

GDTS - Refunds
Box C-S 8150
San Raphael, CA
94912

include the name of the original purchaser or you will not get the $2.50
service charge back.

also, all refunds received after Sept. 17th 1992 will not include the $2.50
 service charge.

--
If you have Crap Center tickets, not from GDTS you can return them to the
place of purchase after August 19th 1992.


                                                       -David

China Cat System     
(301)604-5976 8N1
david@sandr.com 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous)
Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead and the Mixolydian Mode...
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:57:26 GMT

brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown) writes:

>In article <BsxKrC.60C@news.udel.edu> moffitt@chopin.udel.edu (Curtis Moffitt) writes:
>>
>>This is a very long post.  It is a detailed description of the concept
>>of modes, and modal playing.  It also discusses the prevalence of the 
>>mixolydian mode in the grateful dead's music and why they use it so much.

>>Comments?  Points?  Suggestions?  Elaborations?  Please POST THE RESPONSES
>>to the NET so we can keep a discussion going....  Thanks and later, Curt

>Ok, here I go again, steppin' in composte:-)

>Question, is this or is this not a recreational
>newsgroup(rec.music.gdead)? So we need this highly technical
>disscusion on how it is the Dead manage to Jam so well.

>Question, is not Phil the only schooled musician in the group, and
>thus probably the only one who is able to offically grasp these
>great technical discussions.

>So is it the combined opinion of the group that these discussions
>of brilliant understanding of musical education should continue
>or would it not be best for those concerned to take this discussion
>to email or start their own group tech.music. anaylisis of gdead:-)

No! Keep it in the group, please. This is enjoyable and enlightening! 

--Mark
From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: A net.get.well card for Jerry?
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:24:39 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Well, the big guy is resting at home and recuperating, but how can
the net help in his recovery? Bill Madden brought the idea up to me via
email, and why not...a net.get.well card to send to Jerry? Before this baby
can get off the ground, what do *all* of you think of a cumulative card
to send to Jerry?
 
The net.get.well card can be done in a similar format to the Brent
net.sympathy card two years ago.  Names of all net.folk would be
listed alphabetically (by name, email address, and hometown), followed
by a section with any comments you want to say to Jerry.  As for
the card's "get well" message, that is up in the air.
 
Please respond to me via email either "yes" or "no" on whether or not 
a net.get.well.card is feasible, and I'll accept all responses up to
Tuesday, August 18th.  Sorry for the short time allotment, but if this
can be done, I'd like to start it ASAP.
 
Thank you in advance, everyone.:-)
 
 *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 | John J. Wood                              jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu  |
 *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 |			PLEASE GET WELL, JERRY!!!   			  |
 *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 | "Counting stars by candlelight, all are dim but one is bright..."      |
 *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
From: garry@alice.att.com (garry hodgson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Looking for 11/4/11 Colgate show...
Summary: long time gone...
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:49:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.23504
Distribution: rec.music.gdead
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ

In article <1992Aug20.140906.10550@sura.net>, mtaranto@sura.net (Michael Taranto) writes:

> 	As the header says, I am looking for a good copy of this show. I 
> can trade or send blanks, which ever is easier for you. Thanks.

WOW!  I knew the Boyz had been playin' together for a long time,
but 1911?  Did they even *have* tapes back then?  No wonder Jerry's
health is so poor...

-- 
Garry Hodgson			A slow winter day
AT&T Bell Labs			A night like forever
garry@alice.att.com		Sink like a stone
att!alice!garry			Float like a feather
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: the old days
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:07:15 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Aug21.220042.23451@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> ajs@jloda.cci.com writes:
>I wish rec.music.gdead would be like the old days.  Four years ago

	Listen, in the "old days" there wasn't any of this rec bullshit
and I fit my entire news spool on the spare partition of an RM80.


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: "st. stephen" <ST402836@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Re: Deadicated comments
Reply-To: ST402836@brownvm.brown.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:16:13 GMT

Howdy,

korwandr@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (DAVE ROPER)  writes:
|In article <1992Aug17.144237.1@skcla.monsanto.com>, jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com
| writes...
|
|4) Artists who provide something truly new to the interpretation:
|   The gem of the album (I'm bound to get flamed here) is "Ripple" by
|   Jane's Addiction.  I'm not a big JA fan, but this song managed to
|   pick up the improvisational feel of the Dead, mixed with complex
|   rhythms, in their own art/metal style.
|
|I'm really with you on this one.  Not only did they get the improv. feel, but
| By far the best, but your right, you and now I will be flamed.

    I also liked the JA version of Ripple.  I'm not a big fan of theirs, but
I felt they definately caught the flavor of the tune while at the same
time making it their own.
    I can't believe no mention has been made of the hands down best cut
on the album, another rendition that provides a completely new reading
of the song:  Lyle Lovett's FOTD.  I mean, here he takes what most people
know as a bouncy bluegrass tune and even moves beyond the poignanant reading
The Dead give it these days.  Talk about reworked tune; the instrumentation
is very different, using that sparse acoustic guitar with lots of open
chord feel to it, acoustic bass, etc.  And he certainly puts a great deal
of emotion into it.  As I understand it he'd been playing this tune on the
road for while anyway, and it shows; he was obviously very comfortable with
it, something most other cuts on the disc lack.

-steve
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: dmiller@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Daniel Miller)
Subject: Deadicated II (who'd you want to see?) :-)
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 09:03:09 EDT

In article <1992Aug19.124833.29902@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood) writes:
>
>Actually, I'm surprised nobody mentioned Dwight Yoakam's Bakersfield
>twang version of "Truckin'", but his definitive version was at RFK
>last year, complete with two verses full of imitation Bob Weir f*ck-ups!*-)
>
>Now, here's another question:  If you were the producer of DEADICATED II,
>what artists would you choose for any particular Dead song and why? 
>One matchup to get the ball rolling:  Leon Russell - "High Time"
>
> | John J. Wood                              jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu  |

My vote is for Michelle Shocked doin' "The Music Never Stopped" :-)

Dan.

--
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Daniel J. Miller  SUNY College of Environmetal Science and Forestry
dmiller@rodan.acs.syr.edu
"A peaceful place, or so it looks from space
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Re: G.D.H. question (?)
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:36:49 GMT

|Caught just a brief segment of last night's Grateful Dead Hour.
|What I heard was about 5 minutes of the segway from China Cat to I know You
|Rider.

The exquisite version from 6/26/74. Discussed here on the net recently as
being one of (if not *the*) the finest China->Rider ever.
From: rand@smartstar.com (Rand McKinney)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Vacation ideas?
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:56:36 GMT
Organization: SmartStar Corp. / Signal Technolgy Inc.

In article <1992Aug12.090220.8728@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> oconnors@jupitr.enet.dec.com writes:
>
> Now that Veneta and Shoreline have been cancelled....
>
> any good concerts, festivals, club shows, or other fun stuff going 
>on anywhere in california around 8/20-30?
>
>thanks for any suggestions
>
>Sean

Carlos Santanna and Phish are playing at the Santa Barbara County
Bowl on Thurs. 8/27.  It's a great place to see a concert, and I think 
tix are still available--though probably not the best seats in the house.
But, really, there are no *bad* seats at "The Bowl".  It seats about
4500 people and its a natural amphitheater surrounded by trees with great
views of the city and the ocean.
Santa Barbara is also a fun place to hang out: beach, mountains, old Spanish
mission, manymany good restaurants, bookstores, cafes, etc. etc.

On Friday 8/28, Bela Fleck & the Flecktones are playing at the Anaconda
theater, a small club about 10 miles north of SB, near the University of 
California.  If you're in town, it should be fun.

Brought to you by the Santa Barbara Deadhead Tourist Board....
Just kidding--it's only me... :-)
Drop me email if you think you might swing through SB.

--Rand
"Paradise waits, on the crest of a wave, her angels in flame."
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: SCHUBERT%MIDD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: HEY NORMA!!
Reply-To: SCHUBERT%MIDD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:29:08 GMT

Norma Sax, as someone who was only going to be in Oregon in spirit,
I want to thank you for putting so much good effort into this event.
It's been a pleasure to have your presence on the net, especially
recently. And who knows, maybe this is the event meant to go on
anyway, with a spirit of joy and healing. We'll see. A hear a little
band called the Radiators is in the area? Well, anyway, thanks for
the inspiration AND the perspiration. Nice world-good people.

                           PRAYER
             May circles of light surround you
           Golden drops of love fall upon you
            May you breath the clean air of health
            And drink the water of happiness

             May the sky above caress you
             May the ground beneath you bless you
             May your mind see clear
               And your spirit roam free
                 Forevermore
                               _Obsidian Wind_92

[nice to see ya, nice to see ya, c'mon in, c'mon in :-) :-) :-) ]
From: moffitt@chopin.udel.edu (Curtis Moffitt)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: The Grateful Dead and the Mixolydian Mode...
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:37:52 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Aug13.202554.7058@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com writes:
>GRATE post Curt:
>
>|Birdsong - the jam in this song is predominantly E7 in E mixolydian.
>|  What this means basically is that the main chord to which the jam is
>|"centered around" is E7 (with most emphasis in the E triad: E G# B and some
>|emphasis on the dom7: D).  The mode is mixolydian (E is the fifth position)
>|so the predominant scale is A major (A B C# D E F# G A  - note E is in the 5th
>|position).  Thus we get E mixolydian (E F# G A B C# D E).  So, those who
                                             ^-- oops, should be G# !
>|can play an instrument, go home, toss on Birdsong, skip to the jam and
>|play an A scale starting on E - sounds great right!  It "fits".
>
>I've always played this in D7 (with the chords as written in the Garcia
>songbook) with the jam then being in the G major scale rather than A. But
>I've never actually tried playing along with a tape or 'Nette (or the
>"Garcia" album) to see if it is actually the right key. In this key the
>main riff can be done quite easily in the open position.
>

Yes, the music in the book says D but when they actually play it, it is moved
up a whole step.  Thus, like you mentioned, you can use the open E string quite
easily for the riffs they do....


>I would also say The Other One is E Dorian, since it is like D major.

Once again I'll put my neck on the line... The Other One (and the spanish
jam particularly) is E Mixolydian.  The chord is E, the scale is A major.
Hey, note Birdsong is the same.... My friend Joe plays in a dead cover
band that plays  BirdSong->Other One->Birdsong !   Truely an excellent combo!!!

PS. Has the Dead ever done this combo?
>
Later, Curt

******* There's that Mixolydian again! ******** <---- Maybe THIS should be my
.sig .....
From: belli@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Jack Belli)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Jerry's Health: opinion and a fictional proposal
Date: 17 Aug 92 18:58:19 GMT
Organization: University of Hawaii

Exellent ideas!!!!!!!!!
  Sorry East coasters but I do agree with a no Eastcoast tours policy.
Hey I have to travel 2500 miles to see a California show and I'm glad to do
it.I also manage it living on a grad student budget in the city with the highestcost of living in the nation so it isn't a matter of bucks just priorities.
Anyway don't you folks back there in the frozen tundras of the easr feel some
kind of need to visit California or somewhere like it on a regular basis??
It sure couldn't hurt the old mental health.
   Flame away Eastcoast brothers I didn't mean to be offensive to you but I can
see where I probably am.

            Just another lolo hoale dickhead asshole that needs a valium :)
                               Jack