From: rlc1028@zeus.tamu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.homosexuality
Subject: The Analogy Betwixt Gays & Blacks (Re: Children in Same-gender Families)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 13:37 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
Distribution: usa
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In article <645@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek) writes...
| 
|The problem with most of what you post, IMHO, is that it's based mostly on
|the false analogy between gays and blacks situations.  Until that false
|assumption is addressed there is no way to resolve the differences.  People
|have, and always will, make judgements of others based on the behavior of
|others.  I'll bet I could list a dozen types of discrimmination based on 
|behaivor that you wouldn't object to and the reality is you (not you specificly)
|are trying to convince people that some type of behavior they beleive is
|wrong, is really Okay and their the mentally ill or morally deficient
|person for believing it.  Don't you ever make value judgements based on 
|a persons behavior that you don't share? 

	This is a good place to start.  First of all I do judge people's 
actions as being good or bad for me and for society when and where 
pertinent.  And I will return to that line in a moment.

	There is a distinction between Gay identity and Gay behaviour.

	Gays are like Blacks in that there is something about them,
irrespective of thier behaviour, which they cannot seem to change.  In 
particular, Gays are sexually responsive to members of their own gender.
They cannot love members of the opposite gender in the same capacity.
This is a trait which they are either born with or acquire sometime before
they have an awareness of it.  

	Blacks cannot, without much effort, change their skin colour,
and Gays cannot change their gender attraction.

	Gays are like Blacks in that the hatred of them is a hatred of 
their culture and behaviour.  Most people who admit to disliking Blacks
admit that it has nothing to do with skin colour, but with culture.

	But the government has said that we should not discriminate against
someone based on her identity as Black, because skin colour does not 
represent the culture or behaviour in all cases.

	Likewise, just because someone is Gay doesn't imply that they
do this or that sex act, live this or that lifestyle, or believe in this
or that ethical system.  Being Gay doesn't imply a behaviour. 

	I have no difficulty with discriminating based on behaviour
when that behaviour is verified, and when that behaviour is determined
to be detrimental to a goal, and when I agree that that goal is more 
important than the behaviour.


|America must've gone through quite a change the last month and a half.  Since
|Clinton promised a cabinet that "would look more like America," it must be that
|we've all become far left academicians or career politicians.  The ivory tower
|is rebuilt, communism lives and its advocates are working for Bill Clinton! 

	Wah wah!

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