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From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Orpheus)
Subject: Re: Coil _Horse_Rotorvator_
Organization: Fuzzy Logic Laboratories
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:34:45 GMT
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In <92343.162826SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu> <SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>       While we're on the topic of Coil, I was wondering if someone could help
> me out...since I don't even know the name of the album I dubbed(person I
> dubbed it from didn't know either!) I don't have either the songs or the name
> of the alubm, so I can't figure it out, and the only clues I have is:
>      a song has the line: "See the Black Sun rise..." repeated over & over
>    another song has the line "Paradise stands in the shadow of swords" admidst
> very trippy music.
>     another song has a sound of a baby crying in the background, and is quite
> eerie.
> 
>       Any help would be appreciated, as I want to buy the original, but I
> can't do that until I know the name of it!
> 
> 
> 
> 
>    Sean LeBlanc
'
	The album is Coil's first LP release, called _SCATOLOGY_..... the tracks
are: (from CD)
	Ubu Noir/Panic/At the Heart of it All/Tenderness of Wolves/The Spoiler/
Clap/Restless Day/Aqua Regis/Solar Lodge/The S.W.B.P./Godhead == Deathhead/
Cathedral in FLames/Tainted Love

	Restless Day is a available only on  this CD re-release ( or the comp
it originally appeared on), and The Spoiler is an alternate version, differing
from the original LP.



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From: Mark.Wagner@f99.n121.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Wagner)
Sender: FredGate@p0.f99.n121.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: ClockDVA
Date: 12 Dec 92  18:57:44 EST

Greetings rmi'ers
 
1.  ClockDVA's single "Bitstream" may have some bearing on the 
"robocopulation" thread (sorry for digging up the dead).
 
The following text occurs on the CD insert:
 
"(Electrosex and Beyond)
 
     "Numerous research [sic] in to [sic] applied technologies have all 
arrived at similar implications (Electrosex and Teledildonics).
     "How Wachspess[,] a hardware hacker from San Francisco, invented a 
device capable of converting sound into tactile sensations.  Danilo De 
Rossi has engineered a "Smart Skin", [sic] this [sic] artificial dermis 
is capable of sensing pressure to varying degrees and can sense texture 
as fine as the bumps on a braille [sic] manuscript.  Currently[,] 
telephone sex has emerged.  In a recent paper by Allucuere Rosanne 
Stone, "Sex and Death Among The [sic] Disembodied"[,] she describes the 
process of constructing desire through a single mode of communication. 
In this process the participants draw on cultural codes to construct a 
scenario that compresses large amounts of information into a very small 
place.
     "To many the idea of electrosex and teledildonics seems repugnant, 
[sic] computer [sic] ethicist Joseph Weizenbaum would consider it anti 
human [sic], and perhaps it is.  Contemporary philosophers have pointed 
to the progressive mechanization of human culture and the future of 
sexual expression as a site of a potential cultural collision of immense 
dimensions.
     "The secondary social effects of technosex are potentially 
revolutionary.  If technology enables you to experience erotic frissions 
or deep physical, social, emotional [sic] communion with another person, 
with no possibility of pregnancy of sexually transmitted diseases, what 
then of conventional morality, and what of the social rituals and 
cultural codes that exist solely to enforce that morality?  Is 
disembodiment the ultimate sexual revolution and/or the first step 
toward abandoning our bodies?
 
References:
 
"Sex and Death Among The [sic] Disembodied".  Paper presented at the 
Conference of the International Association for Philosophy and 
Literature 1990:  Allucquere Rosanne Stone.
 
Learning a Sense of Rhythm with a Neural Network".  Proceeding of the 
first International  Conference on Music Perception and Cognition.  
Kyoto, Japan October 1989: Masako Nishijima and Yuji Kijimama.
 
"Smart Skin": Shawna Vogel.  Discover April 1990.
 
"Virtual Reality": Howard Rheingold.  Secker and Warbury London 1991.


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From: mho@cs.tu-berlin.de (Michael Hopp)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Voov / MFS records
Date: 20 Dec 1992 01:50:54 GMT
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Joanna Brook (joannab@syma.sussex.ac.uk) wrote:

: I am trying to get hold of a copy of Voov's _It's Anything You Want It To Be_
: EP (featuring the tracks _Strobe Light_ and _Smoke Machine_).  Does anyone know
: the address of MFS records (Berlin), or has anyone seen this EP on import in 
: the UK?

It's:

MFS/DSB Deutsche Schallplatten GmbH Berlin
Reichstagufer 4-5
O-1080 Berlin
Germany

Phone (Germany) 030-22093-15/17
Fax   (Germany) 030-2209218


Michael

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From: emp1@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Ernest M. Paik)
Subject: Re: Best song to dance to?
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:55:09 GMT

There are two songs that make me flail about violently when I hear them (that's a compliment):

"Thieves" - Ministry
"The Famous Polka" - They Might Be Giants



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From: mliggett@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Mister Wizard)
Subject: Re: NIN --FIXED--
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:16:12 GMT

In <1gbodrINNdeo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Nekic) writes:



>This is quite simply one of the most incredible CDs I've heard in
>a -long- time.   I wasn't sure what to expect, but I went out and
>bought it today anyway....It's far beyond anything I had expected.

>This is a definate MUST HAVE CD for NIN fans.  It's longer than Broken
>and cheaper than Broken -AND- in my opinion superior to Broken.

>The disc is Halo 6, #96093-2 and it is labeled as a CD5 single.
>So those of you who can't seem to find it, check the CD singles
>area, though the store where I got mine had it with the singles and the
>regular catalog section.

>The first track, Gave Up is easily one of the best tracks of all time.
>Noisy, fast (REAL fast) and simply awesome.   2-5 are also exceptional.
>As for track 6...it's interesting and it finally gets down to business
>about half-way through, but it's not quite up to par with the rest
>of the CD.  With a few minor edits it could be great.

>This makes waiting for the next full-length CD next year somewhat
>easier.  

>One comment though...I would have really liked a couple hacked and
>slashed remixes of one or both of the bonus track from Broken.
>A Suck remix or ...Physical remix would have been great..
>As it is, Fixed is only awesome...heh heh

there is a suck remix
throw this away (track 4) has a lot of stuff from suck
i think you have to listen to it about 9 timesw very carefully to heear
it though

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From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Orpheus)
Subject: Re: othe DVA
Organization: Fuzzy Logic Laboratories
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:00:06 GMT
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In <724207331.1@njackn.fidonet.org> Mark.Wagner@f99.n121.z1.fidonet.org writes:

> Some other ClockDVA thoughts:
>  
> Great ideas.  Anybody want to talk about them?  Not musical mind you, 
> but the DVA make it fair play here.
	Heh... They make a lot of things fair play..... :)
>  
> Unfortunately, I would charcterize their latest (Man Amplified) as 
> musically weak.  Perhaps they should spend a little more time on the 
> music side of things.
	
	From what I understand, Newton & Co. wrote the music to be as
cybernetic as possible... Hence the stark, almost unfinished sound.

>  
> Does there exist a DVA discography?  If there is one at a usual 
> ftp spots, don't answer--I'll find it.
	I dunno, but I want it too.... as well as lyrics.....

>  
> There is a great change in style from "Thirst" (REM with a sax instead of 
> a guitar) to "Buried Dreams"  What's up?
	Well, the way I heard it, there have been two incarnations of DVA...
Newton with the 'Thirst' era bunch broke up, after a while, and Buried Dreams
was the first album with this present line-up... does much to explain the
stylistic difference...

>  
> Just a few quick ramblings.
>  
> Mark wagner@macc.wisc.edu
> 
>  * Origin: NineJackNine (1:121/99)

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From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman)
Subject: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 17:08:04 GMT


*****  SIMPLE SURVEY -- PLEASE READ *****

I have seen much talk about Sinead on the net lately, 
and was wondering what the general opinion of Sinead
was.  Please take the 20 seconds it takes to reply to
this question and answer it.  (A simple Y or N will do).
Please use your newsreader's reply option or regular
email to submit votes -- do not post your answer.

Question:
Do you still support (or have a general good opinon of)
Sinead O'Connor?

If you wish to send detailed replies as to why or why not,
please do, but they are not required.  Thanks in advance!

Jason Boardman
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From: Sid <ssowder@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Who wants to help me?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:54:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.212416.10950@scott.skidmore.edu> you write:
>I am kind of a new comer to the industrial music scene.... I have
>llike NIN and Ministry for quite some time now and I've heard a bit of
>Front 242, KMFDM, and Nitzer Ebb.  I was wondering if anyone could
>recommend some good groups or albums for me to get..... I am trying to
>broaden my industrial horizons...
>			Love, Meri

Go buy contagion it is Nitzer Ebb (showtime era) all over again...
Sister Machine Gun on Wax Trax is alot like NIN as is Die Warsau &
Bigod 20.  Kinda poppy industrial at times.
Skrew, Skatenigs & Optimum Wound Profile are all ministry thingies...
Ofcourse RevCo has got to fit in there as should Pigface, 1000 Homo Djs
etc...

Noisey stuffs are not my speciality but to break into that check out
Murder Inc.  It is half way inbetween I suppose.

Rappier Industrial is Consolidated, MC 900 FT Jesus, Brothers & systems
(almost house at times though so watch out) gosh those are all on
Nettwerk.... Add Rise Robots Rise & Disposable Heros Of Hiprocracy I
guess.

But again I am pretty new to the genre so Don't Ask Me Again!

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From: mason@netcom.com (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Info on Esplendor Geometrico
Organization: Charnel House
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:16:23 GMT

rrkeuche@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Rainer Keuchel) writes:
: I only know "Sheikh Aljama" on CD.

That is their only CD thus far, released on the Daft label from
Germany (run by Dirk Ivens from the Klinik and Dive).

They self-released several albums and numerous cassettes on
their own Discos Esplendor Geometrico label out of Madrid.
Great rhythmic noise stuff, kind of a very early techno sound
but working with white noise generators and other home-made
machines.


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From: front242@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Cerebus the Aardvark)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN Broken
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:29:56 GMT
Organization: Malice=

bannistr@maths.tcd.ie (Jeff Bannister) writes:
> Is there any reason why my cd player shows up 99 tracks for Broken
> but tracks 7-99 are each about 2 secs long. Am I missing something?
> 

You mean, other than about 2.5 months worth of posts?

*sigh*  It's a gimmick, to make it seem like your disc player is "Broken."
(ha ha ha)....

And it's only 7-97 that are blank--98 is Adam Ant's "Physical" and 99 is "Suck"
(Reznor's main contribution to Pigface...).


Y'know, why can't people read previous posts more often?  I think I might 
actually agree with Matt Sharp on this point......*sigh*


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From: mookie@leland.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Test (please ignore)
Date: 12 Dec 1992 16:09:20 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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testing 1 2 3
From: markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: What a joke
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 22:03:57 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: darkpark

an3681@anon.penet.fi writes:
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Why the hell did you post anonymously? Take your flames like a man!


> As for Bjork, well, let's say that the original poster's premise was sound,
> until he offered his counter-example (-:


	His premise is _NOT_ sound. His _premise_ is that the
_ONE_ thing that makes good music is a good singing voice. While
that may be true in the pop world, it is one of the things the industrial
world is fighting against. Ogre's voice is exactly matches SP's
character. According to a-certain-someone-who-will-remain-nameless,
if, let's say, Michael Bolton sang for SP instead of Ogre, SP
would be a much better band (God, does that ever send shivers
down my spine!) While SP may sell more records, I can't imagine
Michael Bolton crooning "Creatures running underground all the
cages rusted displayed food bowl empty now fit for the licking",
and having it actually mean something.



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From: rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Martin)
Subject: Ministry in Minniapolis
Summary: Ministry in Minniapolis???
Keywords: Ministry industrial blah 
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:21:12 GMT


Is Ministry going to be in Minniapolis anytime soon?!!?
A friend has been hearing rumors that they will be, but she would like
conformation....

me and my sig.

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From: mweil@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Marty D Weil)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Record Speeds (was Re: What a joke)
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:30:45 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
 Crowell) writes:

i remember when i got my first black flag record.  it was the "jealous again" 
ep, way back in the early eighties.  i had absolutely no idea of what it was 
supposed to sound like (having ordered it on a whim after seeing pictures of 
them in "skateboarder magazine") and i swear that i accidently played it a 
whole day on 33 instead of 45!  i was like, "yeah, this is pretty cool(not)".

marty weil
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From: blckjck@leland.Stanford.EDU (Brett Alexander Cruden)
Subject: Re: Ministry's latest album title?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 21:20:21 GMT

In article <johnsh-111292221611@mustang.stu.rpi.edu> johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.191559.3537@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
>blckjck@leland.Stanford.EDU (Brett Alexander Cruden) wrote:
>> 
>> In article <u9236635.724098788@oxygen.sys.uea.ac.uk> u9236635@sys.uea.ac.uk (R. Szczesniak) writes:
>> >Does anyone know what the literal translation of Ministry's latest album is?
>> >You know - the one beginning with KE......
>> When Al was asked about it, he just said it was important that people knew it
>> was "something 69."  (like book 69, psalm 69, chapter 69.)  It's supposed
>> to be taken from some ancient obscure arabic language.
>
>The letters are greek (ancient obscure?).  The second to last symbol
>tnaslates to "sixty" and the last symbol is a theta, the 9th letter of the
>greek alphabet.  Hence, "69." The first batch of symbols are pronounced
>"kefali," which is greek for "heading," or "chapter." Hence, the loose
>translation for the entire title is "Psalm 69."

I remember seeing an interview in which Al said he took it from some old Arabic
text.  I dunno, maybe he was wrong and it actually is Greek.
From: cmoore@lab5.smcm.edu (Christopher Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Cyberaktif
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:23:31 GMT

In article <3ZDsVB2w165w@sizone.UUCP> thf@sizone.uucp (Jason Kalra)  
writes:
>   Does anyone know what else Cyberaktif has done besides Tenebrae  
Vision? 
> I've been looking, and can't seem to find anything (other than the 
> 'Nothing Stays' single)... any information would be greatly appreciated.
> 
> Jason Kalra - Sonic Interzone BBS
> Inet: thf%sizone@ee.ryerson.ca
>  .....

they've also released a single for temper, but that's it..just the album  
and two singles. i have the wax trax catalog, and those are the only three  
things of cyberaktif available.  not likely to hear anything new from  
them, either...key is supposedly working on tear garden and skinny puppy  
currently.
c.morpheus
"belladonna yet you cry....conform...conform....conform!!"
From: fish@jab.tucson.az.us (david wright)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Looking, needed, wouldn't mind getting
Keywords: Hi! Ley! Sa las what?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 06:40:05 MST
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ

 searching for some records... found some ones I've mentioned before... 
now... looking for...
 
 Psychic T.V. : Kondole (on CD)
 Myths 1 : comp. (on CD)
 any cds by O Yuki Conjugate other than Peyote and Under Curents...
 

 Thanks... I've been looking for these for awhile... I need new music to 
do drugs to... please help me... 
(and please respond in mail... thanks!)
 
-dave wright...

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From: cs021087@cs.brown.edu (Brendan Miller)
Subject: GUS - Static and sampling
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:31:56 GMT

I have two questions about the GUS. The first is, when I try to record
(ie via SS8) through the line in the static is incredible. I can't even
hear the music. Do I need to add an RF choke to my cable, or something
else? The strange thing is that the microphone in works beautifully.

My second question deals with the incorporation of recorded material in
MIDI files. For example, is there a way to take a recording of my voice,
and play it as one the MIDI tracks of a MID file? Or is it possible to
sample my voice and transform it into a MIDI "instrument" (patch)? This
would be the best situation. Thanks.
From: dm0@agora.rain.com (Jerry Sievert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Ogre's BDAY
Summary: Ogre's B-Day
Keywords: ogre skinny puppy
Date: 7 Dec 92 08:35:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: agora.Byvrux.Hv7
Organization: Open Communications Forum

Welp, for all you trivia buffs that missed it, December 5th was Ogre from
Skinny Puppy's birthday...  I've never heard "Happy Birthday" sung in such
a creative way... (They did an on stage sorta bday thing)...

Hope you all sent cards...


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From: mark@westford.ccur.com (Mark Thompson)
Subject: Re: SPK recommendations needed
Organization: Radiant Image Productions, Merrimack NH.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:36:26 GMT

In article <Bz3CvI.IL6@dcs.ed.ac.uk> awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) writes:
>Leichenschrei
>Information Overload Unit
>Zamia Lehmanni

Not on CD but also old SPK is a cassette of one of their live performances
titled "Last Attempt at Paradise". It was put out by Fresh Sounds in
Lawrence, KS and contains some material from Information Overload Unit.
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From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: What a joke
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:36:15 GMT

In article <3297@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> mjcrouch@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Matt J. Crouch) writes:
>In article <0f_aDqq00WB2MIp25l@andrew.cmu.edu> jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joseph Velardi) writes:
>>
>>Ogre?  Best voice?  Oh please.  My cat could do better.
>>Best voice:  Bjork from the Sugarcubes.
>Sugarcubes.. now _that's_ industrial!
>
well, maybe on 33 rpm instead of 45....


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