HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: epg@nature.Berkeley.EDU (little 'e' string)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: It's Mexican Independence Day! (Sept. 16th)
Date: 16 Sep 1992 02:36:05 GMT
Organization: Bourbon Street
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: nature.berkeley.edu

Somebody wished our Canadian neighbors to the north a happy Canada Day,
so I figured our neighbors to the south should also be acknowledged.

Just wanted to wish my compadres a "Feliz Dia de Independencia" and a
wonderful day of celebration.

Now let's break out the Tequila and Guacamole!

Just me,

little 'e'

(sometimes known as "Speedy")

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Viva Mexico!! Viva America!! Viva Canada!!
Andale!! Andale!! Yippa!!
-- 
And he said "hey Baby, let's take a ride"
"We'll stand on the cliff's edge side by side."
"Got no time to smell the coffee."
"And anyway it's the rush that counts."  - little 'e'
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Why do the lurkers / so furiously lurk together?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 12:36:37 GMT

In article <8045@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> jjrael@felon.icsl.ucla.edu (Jacob Rael) writes:
>I lurk because I don't know how to put those little messages at the
>end of the articles.
>
>Jacob Rael
 
Oh that's easy. Just fly around your respective city/town/burg then
every time you post type a motto/slogan/economist joke at the
end of your post. Boy are my arms and fingers tired.

 
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From: dy@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Dr. Yes)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Believe in youself, dammit! (was: Re: Singles Bar)
Date: 12 Sep 92 12:55:55 GMT

rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:

> In <JMD.92Sep11173357@lion.bear.com> jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond) writes:
> >Remember -- there are other people (men and women) out there looking
> >for relationships also.   This are just some suggestions of good ways
> >to meet them.  
> 
> >And people: STOP TELLING EVERYONE THAT THEY ARE WRONG!  The fact that
> >you haven't made it work for you in the past DOES NOT INDICATE THAT IT
> >WILL NOT WORK!
> 
> This sounds to me a lot like saying, "The fact that you've done poorly at
> math before does not indicate that you'll do poorly in the future."  Sure,
> it doesn't mean conclusively that it won't, but, given a reasonable amount
> of experience with math (whatever "reasonable" is), it DOES indicate IMO
> that it is VERY, VERY UNLIKELY that you will do well at it in the future.

Good point.  I responded to his post and I thought of making a
point somewhat similar to that but decided it was long enough.

This idea -- keep at it, the past doesn't matter -- was prominent
in the recent Kevin Brown thread.  I wonder how Kevin is making
out now.

--
Still Using Waffle 1.64!    | Wafffle, QEdit and Webster's
                            | NewWorld -- one great menage a
                            | trois!
From: andrew@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Andrew Walker)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:06:44 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>In article <tvkn3!c@lynx.unm.edu>, blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
>>Ahh, sigh.
>>Was watching one of the syndicated talk shows (Montel Williams). They was
>>talking to, sigh, tall women. There was one 6'9", one 6'3", and 2 6'2" women.
>>They was complaining they can't find good tall men. 

>It's a worry.  I don't mind being taller than a guy, but I hate to feel
>intimidating, which tends to happen.

From my point of view, it wouldn't worry me if the girl I was going out
with was taller than me. Not that it has happened that often (I am 6'1").
In my experience the insecurity (heightwise) comes from the other half.

In a particular case it really worried the poor girl that she was as tall
as I was. In another case, which I towered over, she seemed quite happy to look 
up, it just appealed to her.


>Rachel
>(6' btw)

Andrew
(6'1", 6'5" on tiptoes :-)


-- 
Andrew Walker: Department of Computing Science, The University, Glasgow G12 8QQ
Phone: (041) 339 8855 x 6044 		Fax: (041) 330 4913
E-mail: (JANet)      andrew@uk.ac.glasgow.dcs
  	(INTERNET)   andrew@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: solnorda@dmpe.csiro.au (Chris Solnordal)
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Organization: CSIRO Div of Mineral and Process Engineering.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 07:11:15 GMT

ewilliams.71545301@unix1.tcd.ie writes:

>	Absolutely!  Yet another facet of the "the minute you've got an
>SO, you get more passes from other girls/guys than you've ever had before
>in your life" syndrome.  To coin a popular phrase, it's "strange but true".
>Personally, I think it is because you are glowing with happiness and 
>that warmth surrounding you attracts others too.  A friend of mine insists
>that it is because you are releasing more pheronomes (sp?) [sexual hormones
>that are smelt subliminally by others].  It could be a combination of both.

A friend of mine insists that it's because when you're going out with
someone, there's a much greater chance that you've just had sex :-)  This 
then attracts potential partners in a big way - especially if it was quite
recent !!

Don't know how true it is, but it sounds reasonable to me :-)

Chris


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Why do the lurkers / so furiously lurk together?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 04:13:19 GMT

bgarfink@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (beth diane garfinkel) writes:

>So who is the bass soloist?  Anyone I know?  And is it the long version
>or the short version of the air?

David Thomas, of course.  Who else?  Do you know him?

And it is, alas, the short version of the air.

>Sorry, I couldn't resist :)

Apparently not.

Well, guess this makes four red-hot early-music party-animals 
who read this group...

-- 
"It is possible that Debussy did not intend to call it "La Mer," but
"Le Mal de Mer,"... The first movement is "Headache."  The second is
"Doubt," picturing moments of dread suspense, whether or no!  The third
 movement, with its explosions and rumblings, has now a self-evident
 purpose.  The hero is endeavoring to throw up his boot-heels!" 

 ....................Louis Elston, Boston _Daily Advertiser_, April 22 1907
 ..... Quoted in _Lexicon of Musical Invective_ edited by Nicolas Slonimsky.
-- 
Kiran Wagle <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rudoff@mdd.comm.mot.com (Doug Rudoff)
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:07:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.103606.20507@dg-rtp.dg.com> morton@cali.rtp.dg.com () writes:
>>In article <1992Aug26.204706.29105@mdd.comm.mot.com> rudoff@mdd.comm.mot.com (Doug Rudoff) writes:
>>>Given my
>>>complete lack of success in pursuing women who aren't interested in
>>>me, I look at it as a sign of desperation. Maybe we just have
>>>different definitions of desperate.
>
>	Ever considered pursuing some who ARE interested in you ?
>	Nobody ever got anywhere chasing that which was not interested....
>	( maybe once or twice, small odds, hero stories )
>	Do you have a problem with women who like you ?

Where did I say that I didn't pursue women who were interested in me?
I just talked about women who were interested in me but I wasn't
interested in them.

I will pursue a woman that is interested in me if I'm interested in
her.
-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Doug Rudoff          Motorola, Seattle    INTERNET:rudoff@mdd.comm.mot.com
                                            USENET:uunet!mdisea!rudoff   
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
From: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 10 Sep 1992 02:06:50 GMT
Reply-To: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
 <1992Sep7.022547.29338@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>,<1992Sep9.182308.17610@javelin.sim.es.com>
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Sep9.182308.17610@javelin.sim.es.com>, gclapp@javelin.sim.es.com (Glenn Clapp) writes:
>
>Glenn.  (6'10"... pretty scary, eh?)



Awesome!  Heaven!








Rachel

"Supergoof"

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   O O
    >
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Rachel

"Supergoof"

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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: Where the best posts come from
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:12:57 GMT


>dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) mentions:
>>cthulhu-descended lovecraftian monsters.  

diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
>Not that is relevant, but 

Is anything relevant on this group?

>I saw a car a few weeks ago with a bumper sticker that said "Cthulhu
>for President: Why Settle for the Lesser Evil?"  I thought it was GREAT.

*laugh*  Great sentiment.

A friend sells "Yuggoth Saves" bumper stickers at cons.  
He says they go real well in the southland.

-- 
"The distorted images of animals displayed in the media, language,
 advertising, and cartoons, distorts and degrades animals. Is this not
 another form of pornography?"
 ..............Feminists for Animal Rights, quoted in the _New Republic_.
-- 
Kiran Wagle <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
From: taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Can you accept criticism ? (was Re: Why lurkers lurk ...)
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:45:02 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland

In <1992Sep3.200146.19526@mks.com> fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter) writes:

>This reminds me of something else - who can take criticism (constructive
>criticism that is) without getting upset ? An even better question, how
>does one give constructive criticism without it coming across as a
>personal attack ?

I think that practically everyone can take constructive criticism as
long as they know that it is constructive criticism.  The biggest
problem these days is that people criticize only.  If they said
something positive sometimes perhaps others could accept their
criticsm better.

Juha
-- 
Juha Taina | taina@cs.helsinki.fi | Phone: +358-0-708-4247
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter)
Subject: Re: Can you accept criticism ? (who cares why lurk ...)
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:02:26 GMT

liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious) writes:
>fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter) writes:
>Well, in my experience it was frightening to accept the reality of many of
>my friendships and it took some time (not eternities, but some) to start
>developing better, more real, relationships.

The reality of many of my 'friendships' doesn't frighten me - I had an
educational (painful, but educational) period last year where I finally 
redefined what 'friend' meant to me. So now I have less, but better, 'friends'.
However, I'm still redefining what 'friend' means to me (I have to, the
'friend' that I live with just metaphysically nailed me in the nuts last week,
and I'm taking a hard look at why that hurt so much, and why it took so long
for me to stop thinking of that person as a friend, and to realize that they
were simply a parasite feeding off my high tolerance level).

As for time, yes it takes time, but time isn't enough; you also have to have
an idea as to what a good friend is before you can realize how lousy most
of your friendships are. Sort of like : if there wasn't a God, how would you
know that Satan was evil ?

>You want to find people who trust their own judgement but you're willing to
>ignore yours when you see that these people turn from you yet you still
>consider tham friends.

I have difficulty picking up on subtle hints directed at me. So, unless they
verbalize, it'll take me a while to figure out what's going on. And while
I'm figuring out what's going on (and I have a very high, too high, tolerance
level for shit from people when I like them and think they like me) I still
consider them a friend.

	fred
-- 
Disclaimer: everything I write is my *personal* opinion and does not represent
or reflect the opinion of the company which employs me.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: General topic to break the monotony
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:55:26 GMT

In article <MARTINC.92Sep8200601@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>I dunno about you guys, but if I'm at 500 feet -- or even 475 -- and the
>plane goes go the ground, I'm giving the chute a try.
>
>As to what happened to the plane -- from the angle of plane to ground,
>odds are excellent that it was a simple takeoff stall.  Was it a gusty
>afternoon?
>Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu/(ne crm@cs.duke.edu) 

Hello Charlie.
Witness's said...----...----_______ One engine on fire, neither engine
working right before impact. Body's found in crash position.
Plane did not slide and break apart. Plane went bam. Wing hit. Plane
flipped. Plane burst into flames.
Now keep in mind I'm only repearting hearsay. I watch lots and lots of
news. The news is my life. I wanna be a news cameraman when I grow
up and I just realized it.
Thank you soc.singles. I'll always remember this a more innocent time.
Glory, glory hallelulah.
Decaf is for weanies.
Ham is for eggs.
 
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From: tipping@phys.ksu.edu (Tracy N. Tipping)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Dill Dough
Date: 10 Sep 1992 13:51:57 GMT
Organization: Department of Physics, Kansas State University, Manhattan KS, USA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bose.phys.ksu.edu

In article <1992Sep10.055933.24183@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>In  <1992Sep9.210738.3962@panix.com>  pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>>
>> The Midwest!?!? You mean the place where people still wear white
>> shirts and narrow ties and think it's about 1957? Where a good
>> time is watching cows sleep?
>
>Two words.
>
>Cow tipping.
>
>Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)

Actually, it's Tracy Tipping...(a Texan temporarily living in the Midwest)

--
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tipping@ksuvm.bitnet		  |		different to midgets.
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Xref: sparky soc.singles:25310 talk.bizarre:30152
From: epg@nature.Berkeley.EDU (little 'e' string)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: General Toe-pic to break the monotony
Date: 15 Sep 1992 03:55:31 GMT
Organization: Bourbon Street
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: nature.berkeley.edu

In article <4204@moscom.UUCP> wjb@moscom.com writes:
>Who wants to grow up?  Certainly not I.  Then I'd have to go read more serious
>newsgroups, like talk.bizarre.
>
>Bill
>-- 
>"Bless me, Father; I ate a lizard."
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

No need to worry Bill, lizard-eaters are allowed to read talk.bizarre even
if they're not fully grown.  Though I really think we'd be happier if
the lizards ate all the "Nice Guy [tm]s" instead. 

>"Was it an abstinence day, and was it artificially prepared?"

Bite your tounge!  Hail to the Heterosexuality DeathKult! 

ObBizarre: My new shews are made out of synthetic leather, so now I'm wondering,
           where do they grow sythetic cows?

ObSingle: Some people play house and some people play bed.  "I get to be the
          blanket."  "No, I wanna be the blanket!"

Just me,

little 'e'

-- 
And he said "hey Baby, let's take a ride"
"We'll stand on the cliff's edge side by side."
"Got no time to smell the coffee."
"And anyway it's the rush that counts."  - little 'e'
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: infante@acpub.duke.edu (Andrew  Infante)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Cradle Robbin?
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:02:11 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Sep10.130616.29257@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>In article <29134@hydra.Helsinki.FI> taina@cs.Helsinki.FI (Juha Taina) writes:
>>In <lasi5hINN8r4@news.bbn.com> dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>>><nose in air, snotty sniff>  I will ignore any scandalous and unfounded 
>>>accusations, thank you very much.  My sweetheart is 26.
>>
>>He was born in 1966?  1966 was a very good year. :)
>
>Oh yes, give me those elevens!  1955 has my vote ...  :-)
>




I prefer '69 myself...

;)
;0 
;O
:O
>:-/

andy
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: General topic to break the monotony
Keywords: Kosher dills, half sours, dill dough.....
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:47:41 GMT

In article <las12kINN3c2@news.bbn.com> kgorman@BBN.COM (Karen Gorman) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.205554.13138@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
>(james.j.dutton) writes:
>> 
>>Bostonbabyboink would be just to painfull.
>>*SNORK*
> 
>
>What's the matter James?  The thought of a pickle up your arse (words 
>according to Dawn) scare little ol you?  Does the word CHICKEN mean 
>anything to you?  You know what they say...Try it, you might like it!! ;-)
>
>Karen
>kg@bbn.com

Hey I'm not scared of nothin. Here.
There. See.
I can barely touch the keyboard.
 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels)
Subject: Re: Fall classes have started
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:29:38 GMT

martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>I think you got one, Ron.

Shhh!  You're scaring the rest of them away!!

-- 
Ron Wessels		University of Toronto		ron@turing.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: leg shaving
From: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 10 Sep 1992 02:21:30 GMT
Reply-To: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
 <BuBIJv.8F9@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>,<1992Sep9.190134.29178@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Sep9.190134.29178@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, weird@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.t.erhardt) writes:

>and unhairy men.  Some women seem to like men with hairy chests.  Others,
>maybe the same women, don't like men with hairy backs or butts.  I suppose
>there are some women who do/don't like hairy legs, arms, etc.  Why?
>And to the men, if you don't like a particular part of you body hair, why
>not shave it?  We shape the hair on our head the way we like it, why not
>hair in other places?

What I often wonder about, is that as men get older, some/most have thinning of
the hair on their head, the an increase in the hair on their backs and chests. 
Any logical reason for this?

Personally, if I'm attracted to a guy, body hair doesn't make any difference at
all.  If, however, I think a certain individual is rather disgusting excess
body hair makes my revulsion worse.







Rachel

"Supergoof"

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Rachel

"Supergoof"

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From: dl@cockatoo.bellcore.com (Daniel Liebster)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: What knockers!  Crreak.
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:07:56 GMT
Reply-To: dl@thumper.bellcore.com
Organization: Packet Communications Research Group (Bellcore)

In article <1992Sep13.060140.4430@leland.Stanford.EDU>, richwing@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rich Wingerter) writes:
|> In article <18kf7uINNpap@agate.berkeley.edu>, jbecker@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jane Becker) writes:
|> [guys brush girls' tits discussion deleted]
|> |> Yes, guys do this to me occasionally too (in fact someone did it earlier
|> |> today...).  Although I've never been elbowed hard enough to consider
|> |> it painful, it is really annoying.  It's not the fact that they are
|> |> brushing against me that is bothersome: if a guy is such a loser that
|> |> elbow contact with by tits is a big thrill, then he's welcome to it.
|> |> What irritates me is that these guys do it so "accidentally."  Come on!
|> |> who do you think you're fooling?  I hate that kind of pretense.  I think 
|> |> I'd almost prefer they just plant a hand on my breast and squeeze...
|> |> it would undoubtably be more enjoyable for the both of us... of course
|> |> they run a substantial risk of getting slapped though!  Seriously guys,
|> |> what are you thinking when you do this?  Enquiring minds (well, mind, at
|> |> least) want to know!
|> 
|> I don't understand the psychology.  As my friend DCL used to put it, "breast
|> were made for the entertainment of infants, thighs were made for the
|> entertainment of men."
|> 
|> 
|> --Rich Wingerter

Then just call me infantile! The palm of my hand knows no greater pleasure!

dan
.
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.sex,alt.romance
From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: Nice Guys?
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 19:45:06 GMT

In article <jxvnggm.slf@netcom.com>, slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher) writes:

> Sigh.  School just started again, didn't it?
>
> No, it is not true that women, in general, prefer assholes.
>
> Women, in general, prefer guys with self-confidence.
>
> Unfortunately, assholes are generally pretty self-confident.
>
> As a wise woman friend of mine once said (meaning, "I can't remember
> her name"), "Being *nice* is not enough."  Okay, fine, you're *nice*.
> But you also need to be *interesting*.  

   Pooh.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: Tallllll women....
Date: 07 Sep 92 10:22:14 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <_mmnz6q.aahz@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.022040.2024@panix.com> jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold) writes:
>>Well, that may be your problem, but I have my own (sorta).  I'm 5'8",
>>taller than most women I know, or have dated.  Yet some consider me short
>>when compared to other guys?  I hate this double standard!!! Arrrgggghhh...
>>Just my 2-cents
>I've felt this way at various points, but trust me, it just doesn't
>matter.
>
>It just doesn't matter.  It just doesn't matter.  It just doesn't 
>matter!  IT JUST DOESN'T MATTER!!!
>(A No-prize to the first person to correctly identify the source for
>this quote.)

Said by Bill Murray's character in the movie Meatballs

>-- 
>                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
>                             @netcom.com 
>
>Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6
 
Okay, what's Rule 6???

-jen