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From: ji0000m@medtronic.COM (James Imholte)
Subject: Re: Discmans for walking? (was: Re: Sony Car Discmans?)
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:22:16 GMT

In article <3LQWBQDT@cc.swarthmore.edu> hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai) writes:
>savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia) writes:
>:I'll wait until the MD comes down to the price of the CD
>
>Does anyone know what the sampling rate for the MDs are?  If it's
>significantly higher than CD's sampling rate, and high enough that it's
>beyond human ability to distinguish, then MDs might be worthwhile.
>

I'm not sure of the sampling rate but MD format is compressed so it probably
(at least for now) will be inferior to CD's.  I'm excited about MD as a 
replacement for cassettes in the "portability" department.  I won't replace
my CD's with pre-recorded MD's but copy my latest CD to an MD to drag around
until I'm sick of it then copy over it.  Imagine... just like copying files
on a computer.

As a safety feature (for music industry) I believe you can only copy CD info
onto an MD from an original source (you couldn't CD > MD > MD > MD ... etc.

I'm jacked and waiting for all the frills.

Jim


-- 
Jim Imholte		Phoenix Circuit Design		 Consultant
Medtronic/Micro-Rel
ji0000m@tmp.medtronic.com			(602)968-6411 x6620
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Can a landlord refuse cash?
From: bob@lopez.marquette.MI.US (Bob Hogg,The Swamp)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:52:01 EST
Organization: Great White North/UPLink

In <CONKLIN.93Jan4174514@talisman.kaleida.com> conklin@kaleida.com (J.T. 
Conklin) writes:

>I received a notice with my rent statement indicating that as of the
>next rent period, only personal cheques, cashier's cheques, and money
>orders will be accepted for rent payments --- cash will no longer be
>accepted.

>Is this legal?  Many of the people in my complex do not have bank
>accounts.  They cash their social security cheques and pay their rents
>in cash.  Forcing someone who is living on a tight budget to buy money
>orders seems unfair to me.

I'm a landlord, and I certainly can understand someone's reluctance to be 
inundated with large amounts of cash when the rent is due with the 
resultant security problems, etc., and I am acquainted with other 
landlords who refuse cash, including public housing.

However, currency in reasonable denominations is legal tender, and I 
believe it is not legal to refuse it.

As a matter of fact, last year when I went to get a passport, the U.S. 
GOVERNMENT indicated it would not accept cash for payment.

Go figger.
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: patth@panix.com (Patt Bromberger)
Subject: Re: Bread makers: recommendations?
Followup-To: misc.consumers 
Summary: Welbilt is not DAK!
Organization: Panix Public Access Internet & Unix, NYC
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:18:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.152554.25292@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> john@ice.stx.com writes:
>In article <1ic8brINNs68@hpfcbig.sde.hp.com>, fritz@fc.sde.hp.com (Gary Fritz) writes:
>}John DiMarzio (john@ice.stx.com) wrote:
>}: I don't personally own one, but, my brother has a Welbilt model 
>}: that came highly reccommended.
>}
>}Different strokes, I guess.  I have a low opinion of the DAK/Welbilt machines.
>}Here's my standard posting on that:
>}[deleted]

>Welbilt products are not made exclusively for DAK and are not available
>exclusively through DAK.  DAK often markets remanufactured products.  
>Sometimes without even labelling them as such.  My brother's Breadmaker
>did not come from DAK and has performed well since he got it.
>

Seems I wrote my "review" of my own experience with our Welbilt
breadmaker which functioned flawlessly for 14 months and then had to
be returned for repair because I foolishly burned out the motor trying
to make it work overtime on a whole wheat loaf.  Welbilt cheerfully
replaced it with a newer model.

Seems I was also criticized by Gary at that time when he said
something like well, you are one of the few satisfied Welbilt
customers, everyone else is furious at them or some such comment.

Thanks, John, for posting your comments about your satisfied brother
and his Welbilt - now there are TWO of us :-) :-) :-)


-- 
Patricia Ann Bromberger                            patth@panix.com
I shall go out in my slippers in the rain. And pick flowers in 
other people's gardens And learn to spit. -- "Warning" by Jenny Joseph
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,athena.misc
From: cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus)
Subject: Re: HELP: how to setup a small corporation/business CHEAP????
Keywords: help corporation setup cheap
Organization: Taligent, a little subsidiary of two really big companies.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:42:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.210108.16758@athena.mit.edu> andreast@athena.mit.edu (Andreas Turanski) writes:
>  I am starting to do some computer consulting and need to start
>a corporation so that it/I can legally be a reseller and
>have a Federal tax ID so that I can get things wholesale and w/o tax
>and resell them and charge tax- oh joy.

If the only reason you want to incorporate is because you're being a
consultant, the easiest way of all is to not incorporate at all, but
just operate your business as a sole proprietorship.  For businesses
like this, a corporation is usually not the way to go.  Sole
proprietorships can have reseller permits (or whatever Massachusetts
calls them), and so forth.

Good bookis on the subject are SMALL TIME OPERATOR from Bell Press, and
THE LEGAL GUIDE TO STARTING AND OPERATING A SMALL BUSINESS from Nolo
Press.
--
-- Christophe

"I draw the line at Styrofoam packing kernels, you sick pervert."
From: bell@cs.tamu.edu (Will Bell)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Dances With Wolves Promotion
Date: 13 Jan 1993 02:49:41 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: solar.tamu.edu

In article <1993Jan12.000757.29324@holos0.uucp> lbr@holos0.uucp (Len Reed) writes:
>
>McDonalds didn't advertise these tapes as being sub-standard knock-offs.
>There was no reason for any consumer to believe that they were anything
>but first quality pre-recorded tapes that were a bargain because of a
>promotional deal between McDonalds and the studio.

As someone who has purchased a lot of prerecorded movies, trust me when I
say -- you get what you pay for.  The so-called "bargain" movies that you
buy for $9.99 are almost always inferior to other movies selling for a higher
price.  These cheaper tapes are usually recorded in LP mode on the poorest
quality tape possible.  For a casual viewer, this would probably be OK,
but for the "video connosieurs" it is unacceptable.

McDonald's would like you to think that they are selling you first quality
tapes through a special arrangement with the manufacturer.  And it may be
true.  But I wouldn't be surprised a bit if the tapes are inferior.  In the
same manner that most people are satisfied by a mediocre burger, so will they
be satisfied by a mediocre-quality videotape.

WBB

--
Will Bell -- bell@cs.tamu.edu -- Live from the heart of Scenic Central Texas
"And IXNAY on the wishing for more wishes!"
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: minor@rtsg.mot.com (Kevin Minor)
Subject: Re: Free circus tickets for babies born this year
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:38:39 GMT

bbb1s@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Bibhuti B. Banerjee) writes:

|>Just read in the Washington Post that in this "Year of the Circus,"
|>Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus will offer a free ticket
|>to every baby born in the US this year. Parents should send their
|>name, address, newborn child's name and date of birth to

|>Ringling Bros. and Barnum & Bailey Circus
|>P.O. Box 5265
|>Clifton, NJ 07015

|>The circus will send a certificate that can be exchanged for one 
|>ticket to any performance in any city in any year. Of course, the
|>kids will bring along their parents, who will buy tickets for 
|>themselves :-)

My wife heard the same thing except for she seemed to think that it
was a ticket good that was good forever. (Which isn't a bad deal for
both sides... That person has a free entrance for life and B&B will
have someone who will return several times - usually with paying customers.)

Can you recheck the article to see if it is one time or life time ?
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Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: rrw@philabs.philips.com (Roger White)
Subject: Re: Who prints personalized bank checks?
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Distribution: misc.consumers
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:07:28 GMT

Try:
	Current
	Colorado Springs, CO 80941

	1-719-593-5900 
	       5am to midnight Mountain Time, Mon. - Sat.

Take Care,

Rog
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: sorbrrse@rtsg.mot.com (Russell E. Sorber)
Subject: Re: Just a Question
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:02:19 GMT

In article <carlp.726351024@frigg> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>schwartz@nynexst.com (Steven Schwartz) writes:
>
>>On the news this morning:  Second-hand cigarette smoke has been
>>"officially" classified as hazardous, in the same category as
>>asbestos.
>
(Carl writes)
>A political rather than scientific decision, as with ALL other effects
>of the War on (Some) Drugs.  Remember the test strategy for Saccharin?

Isn't saccharin still sold (with a warning)?
The better comparison is with asbestos.
Second hand smoke loses in this comparison.
Asbestos is an excellent fire retardant and has hundreds
of useful applications even though it is a known 
carcinogen.  There are little if any use for second 
hand smoke

(Carl writes)
>Go ahead, flame away - health Nazis give me the retching vomits.
>


HISTORICAL NOTE:  
Nazis are not known for their concern for life.  
Protection of Life Liberty and Pursuit of Happiness
is an American idea.

<<Stuff Deleted>>

(Carl writes, commenting on IL budget priorities even though
he apparently lives thousands of miles away and is relying on
a motorcycle mag. for facts. )
>
>At the State level, this is even worse.  Assorted states have raided
>the fund collected from motorcycle endorsement fees and "dedicated" to
>rider education programs - IL, for example, cut back and may close
>down rider education, despite the fact that this "fund" MORE than
>covered the necessary expenditures.
>
Imagine that!

More than one dozen hospitals in the Chicago area have recently
gone under, due in large part to late and reduced reimbursement 
from the State of Illinois for services provided.  Many pharmacies are 
about 6 months behind in getting reimbursed from the State and are also
dropping like flies.  Last summer the State suspended payments to
school districts for one month.   Imagine the nerve of
Gov. Edgar in taking a few dollars away from a 
motorcycle education program!

Gimme a Break!



-- 
Russ Sorber, CDP
Software Contractor  -    Opinions are mine, Not Motorolas!
Motorola, Cellular Division
Arlington Hts., IL	(708) 632-4047
From: cerulean@access.digex.com (Bill Christens-Barry)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Antilock brakes on new Dodge Grand Caravan SE?
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:15:18 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com
Summary: SHould I get antilock brakes?
Keywords: antilock brakes, options

Can anyone give me an informed opinion about whether I should get the anti-
lock brake option on a new Dodge Grand Caravan SE I plan on buying new from
a dealer?  The cost (invoice) is around $510.

The standard brakes are disc/drum (front/rear, I think), and the van weighs
around 3900 lbs.  I don't know how long the antilock braking system has
existed, but I'd like to hear why I'd be much safer with it than people were
before it existed.  In other words, is it a gimmick aimed at recent safety
awareness?

Also, any comments on the neede for the heavy duty trailer/towing package that
includes heavy duty alternator, battery, oil cooler, radiator, flashers, and
a trailer wiring harness?  I may occasionally pull a popup camper (I don't
know its weight but its not especially large).  The engine is a 3.3 liter
6-cylinder.

Finally, what about overall price and negotiating strategy.  I called several
dealers and told them I had data on their invoice prices and wanted them to
fax me prices they would honor.  I told them I would wait let them order a
van rather than buy one from their stock, thinking this would make it more
attractive for them.  Several dealers said they would be willing to do this.
Should I ask for a bid that does not include the factory rebates that I've
heard advertised recently, or should I let them quote a price that includes
the rebates?

Any other useful comments?  I'll post a message with my experiences once the
deal is done.

Thanks...

Bill Christens-Barry
cerulean@digex.com

Xref: sparky misc.consumers:21437 misc.invest.real-estate:1156
From: dedek@meaddata.com (Mike Dedek)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,misc.invest.real-estate
Subject: Re: Manufactured Housing (not a mobile home)
Date: 4 Jan 1993 15:10:34 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: moonlight.meaddata.com

My uncle bought a Nanticoke home.  It was premade, but the foundation and
basement were built on site.  The home came in four pieces (it's a two
story), and looks exactly like a normal home on the outside and inside.
It's brick.  As I understand it it was pretty expensive, but less expensive
than the homes built by the developer in the neighborhood.  Probably somewhere
around $150k 4 years ago in Northern Delaware.

-Mike
From: swisher@cs.utexas.edu (Janet M. Swisher)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Handheld Shower Massages
Date: 11 Jan 1993 14:56:21 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: jive.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1ic800INNbf2@symbi1.symbiosis.ahp.com>
aem@symbiosis.ahp.com writes:
|dw@unislc.uucp (Dan Wright) writes:
||drawback is that it is "low-flow", like most (all?) new showerheads are,
||which means that not much water comes out (a horse could pee harder).  But,
||there is a little washer you can remove to open the pathway and increase
||the flow.  I took that washer out.  I also took a drill and reamed out the
||couplings at either end of the hose, since they were more than thick enough
||for strength: I assumed correctly that they were thick in order to restrict
||the flow.  Now the thing delivers a decent jet of water.

|How very environmental of you.  Do you realize that increasing areas of
|the country have mandatory water restrictions in effect?  Clean water
|doesn't grow on trees.

I recently heard a talk on increasing your home's energy/etc.
efficiency; I don't recall whether the speaker was from the state or
city office responsible for such things.  Anyway, he said he doesn't
recommend using low-flow showerheads because:

a) the hard water in this area tends to clog them easily
b) the low flow encourages people to either turn the volume up more or
take longer showers

So, installing a low-flow showerhead may actually increase your water
use.



-- 
Don't take life so serious ... it ain't *no how* permanent. -- Porkypine. 
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: smierch@madeline.com (Edward Smierciak)
Subject: Re: Cordless phone recommendations
Reply-To: smierch@madeline.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 17:56:33 GMT

In article 1ifcisINNsjc@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com, hugh@slee01.srl.ford.com (Hugh Fader) writes:
>Hi folks,
>
>I am looking for recommendations for cordless telephones. I would
>prefer to stay under $100. Do I need a 10 channel phone if I stay
>within say 50 ft of the base unit? How do the Japanese brands compare
>with AT&T? My local appliance salesperson recommended SONY or Toshiba
>-- of course that's all she had in stock. Also, what is the security
>code in the phone used for?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>--
>Hugh Fader
>Ford Research Laboratory
>hugh@slee01.srl.ford.com
>
Hugh,

A couple of months ago I bought an AT&T 5400 and am extremely
pleased with its range, clarity, and security.  The features you
MUST (imo) are:

	Auto Security:  prevents other handsets from using your base unit
			when your handset is not on the charger.  Higher-end
			models accomplish this by having the base unit 
			periodically (i.e. every few seconds) verify that 
			the handset it is in contact with is the authorized one.

	Auto Channel:	The base unit constantly scans for the clearest channel 
			and automatically switches the conversation to that 
			channel.

The AT&T 5400 has these features and can be had for around $100.  I
believe it lists at $129.99, but I got mine at Costco for $89.99.

Ed


---

Ed Smierciak, MTS
NYNEX Science & Technology
500 Westchester Avenue
White Plains, NY 10604


Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung)
Subject: Re: Just a Question
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R&D, U. of Ill.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 16:08:09 GMT

carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung) writes:
>>In fact, all the money ($7 from each motorcycle registration fee)
>>for rider ed is now protected by a recently passed bill.
>
>Vetoed or refused-to-sign by the governor, according to a recent issue
>of American Motorcyclist.  Sorry, can't put my hands on it right now.

Yes it was vetoed by Edgar but it was overridden by the state legislature.
This is correctly reported in the Feb '93 issue of American Motorcyclist.

>I suppose my memory could be wrong; if so I apologize.  In any
>case, it was reprehensible on the face of it to EVER raid ANY portion
>of this fund, and goes to show that specific-purpose taxes are
>vulnerable and you have no guarantee they're used as authorized.

Agreed.  Even worse it isn't even a specific-purpose tax.  It is
totally funded by motorcyclists, not the general state tax payer.

Bruce
From: laurab@dip.cs.wisc.edu (Laura Berg)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: gelatin pills
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:21:55 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

prange@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Henry Prange) writes:

>Don't waste your time and money. As far as I know, that dietary intake
>of gelatin will help your fingernails is a myth. Unless you are seriously
>protein deficient, the protein in gelatin is not likely to make any
>difference to the synthesis of your keratin. They all have to be broken
>down into the constituent amino acids before being re-synthesized. 
>.

I used to take them for about 3 months, about 3 a day and I had BEAUTIFUL
nails. (They were able to grow longer because they were very strong.)  So, in
my experience, gelatin does help.  That's why I want to start taking them 
again.

Laura
laura@legato.com
 
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,soc.culture.japan,sci.electronics,soc.culture.
From: romalley@nyx.cs.du.edu (Robert O'Malley)
Subject: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 12:38:13 GMT


This is a fascinating discussion, but what does it have to do
with education?

Just wondering.

  -- Bob
From: tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Cordless phone recommendations
Date: 8 Jan 1993 15:12:13 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: itchub21.cs.itc.hp.com


We own two cordless phones. One is a 4 year old Sony and one is a 3
month old Sony. They look remarkably alike. However, the new unit is
much, much better at having clear sound. I can use it anywhere in the
house and it is very clear. The older one is nice, but has a lot of
background noise sometimes.

Beware, it is very easy for someone to listen to your conversations.
Even the new 900Mhz units are not secure, except for the Tropez unit. It
is currently the only unit that cannot be listened to. I have a scanner,
and also subscribe to scanner magazines which review these new
technologies. I never use mine to conduct business, etc.. just to gab
with friends. I will be getting one of the Tropez units when they comes
down in price.

Good Luck.


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Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: kan@yoyodyne.rtp.dg.com (Victor Kan)
Subject: GE Reward Mastercard?
Date: 08 Jan 93 18:58:21 GMT
Distribution: misc
Reply-To: kan@dg-rtp.dg.com
Organization: Program Development Environments, Data General Corp., RTP, NC

Has anyone applied for the new GE Reward Mastercard?

Do they give back 2% on *all* purchases, or is it tiered?

Is there an annual fee? ...extended warranty? ...other goodies?



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Newsgroups: misc.consumers,soc.culture.japan,sci.electronics,soc.culture.african.american,misc.education,misc.entrepreneurs
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:05:15 GMT

fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

 (LOTS DELETED)

>It would seem, rather, that Japan's industrial expansion has hurt JAPAN.
>
 (EVEN MORE DELETED)

I think that it is more accurate to say that the Japanese people have been
hurt. The move on the part of "Japan" toward economic hegemony first imposes
its costs on the Japanese people in order to gain advantage on others. This
leads to such seeming contradictions as a disastrous home economy at the same
time as record trade imbalances.

Charlie

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Newsgroups: misc.consumers,athena.misc