HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pwg@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Goldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Lawyers not Chemists
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:58:07 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

Peeve: When someone posts an article that you know is going to generate
at least half a dozen dispoaraging responses, but you feel obliged to
add one of your own.

In article <1992Apr7.164630.987@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, sac@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
grumbles at length about the fact that a lawyer two years younger than him
makes more money than he can expect to make in 30 years time. 

> to college also. I studied, no doubt, as hard as he; if not harder. I
> painstakingly shoveled others people shit lab work for years to get my
> coveted degrees. The only problem is that I am the only one who covets
> them. Out of college my first position paid $20K per year. What the Fuck

et cetera. You get the idea.

Boy it must be mighty tough to be forced to go into science when other
people get to pick high-paid jobs in law. I'm disillusioned - I always
thought that in the USA you got to exercise a reasonable amount of free
will, but now I find that some Americans, through no fault of their
own, are forced to take low-paid jobs, despite being at least as
meritorious as better-off people.

Seriously, you could go into ambulance-chasing if you wanted to. It's
probably harder work than it looks. As a British grad student I get
paid didly squat, but don't complain about it. I've learnt my lesson,
plus the fact that it doesn't get much better if you stay in academia,
and on finishing intend to get a job in the >gasp< private sector.

Distantly related peeve: To make your way in science, you need a
good publication record. This typically takes the form of a list of
scientific papers that yo've written or co-authored. Since it's very
hard to judge the merit of a scientific paper, especially in my
field (theoretical computer science), the heuristic to judge your
publications is the length of the list. This explains why a large
proportion of papers you see in journals are of such poor quality,
and you have to compromise principles like scientific integrity
(not publishing junk) to get on.

yours peevishly,
Paul.

"In this way a better economy will be created not on the basis of hard
work but on the basis of following Natural Law, which works through the
Principle of Least Action (Physics) - maximum accomplishment through
minimum effort on the basis of infinite creativity."
  - from the manifesto of the Natural Law Party, April 1992
From: tim@comphy.physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: GIF's (was: Re: Smoking Surrogate)
Date: 10 Apr 92 08:56:57 GMT
Reply-To: tim@comphy.UUCP (Tim Mefford)
Organization: Oregon State University - Univ. Computing Services

In article <9415@wrgate.wr.tek.com> dmunroe@gollum.wr.tek.com (David Munroe) writes:
>This is the only GIF file I have now (well, except for baywatch0, comb, and
>the like); it's rather miserable in that I had to use my friend's El Cheapo
>scanner and the photo is so small you can hardly tell who or what's in it.
>Not only that, it's a fairly large file.

      Actually, Dave, it was a fairly decent photo.  Like some people
being surprised at the revelation of the height and age of some net 
denizens, I must admit some surprise at discovering that you are, in fact,
a rather fast looking sports car.  I'd always scoffed at that old 
Knight-Rider show, but I guess I was wrong.  I suppose there are certain
advantages, but, as a car, do you feel denigrated by some of the commentary
on the rec.autos groups?  Does this mean you're posting via cellular phone?
I was skeptical at first, but now I'm looking forward to GIF's of peevesters.

p.s. Your photo seems to have captured some distant, pale white, ghostly
     image.  You might get paranormal money from the enquirer.

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From: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: PREscriptions, subsiDIARY...
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:30:17 GMT
Reply-To: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Organization: Penicuik People's Revolutionary Sheepdog Liberation Front

And lo, geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Tricky Gnosis) spake unto the masses saying:
>
> In article <1992Apr4.043208.213@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> 
> allane@moon.gas.unsw.OZ.AU.gas.unsw.OZ.AU (Allan Evans) writes:
>
>> Like Worcesteshire (?) sauce... it is definately not pronounced like it
> is spelled... worster sauce....
>
> "WoosterSHEER" sauce; you left out the last syllable.  I pronounce it 
> "WORcesterSHIRE" just to piss people off.

Pronouncing it "WoosterSHEER" would piss them off too - it's supposed to be
pronounced "Wooster" - the "shire" is silent, at least around these parts.
Strange but true.

ObPronunciationPeeve: EdinBURG. Ugh.

AntiPeeve: Worcestershire sauce. This stuff is the reason most English food
tastes so *bland* (yeah, yeah, I know, coming from someone who lives in the
land that gave the world oatcakes I've got no right to talk about bland
food) since by the time you've put a decent sized dash of Worcestershire
sauce on it, even soggy cardboard would taste good. This is just as well,
since most English food *does* taste like soggy cardboard.

--
		Not Al Crawford - Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk
 "Isn't it nice/Sugar and spice/Luring disco sheepdogs/To a life of vice."
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: For the AviationallyChallenged
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:46:22 GMT
Organization: Autodesk, Inc., Sausalito, CA

In article <1992Apr9.175258.19366@dg-rtp.dg.com> cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:
>
>Where does one go to get a noisy beer?  This is something that I haven't
>experienced in my many years elbow exercise.


There is a place in Berkeley called "Triple Rock". In the evening,
they have very loud jukebox music. That is what I call noisy
beer.

Peeve: Loud music.

!Peeve: Music that is not too loud.

ER
--
*"I mean it could make a big difference in your life if you thought that 
*you didn't need to depend on some musty old dogma thats riddled with
*translation problems, and started acting from the center of your own being."
*					-Owen Rowley
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892)
Subject: Re: engineers, again
Organization: NASA GSFC CDP VLBI
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:11:40 GMT

In article <92107.110024JMM151@psuvm.psu.edu> JMM151@psuvm.psu.edu (Jennifer Mina) writes:
>Peeve:  people who demand that I explain my peeves to them.  I thought
>this was a place where people could vocalize their peeves (well, kinda),
>not get more annoyed by people responding to  their peeves.  If you're
>offended that I'm peeved at Engineers, too bad.  Why do you care what
>peeves me anyway?  I don't know you.  It's not like I'm trying to get
>anyone else to be peeved at Engineers, so what's the problem?
>
Actually, this newsgroup exists for people who feel silly posting to alt.flames.
From: ELLBRUA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (The Lemming)
Subject: Waiting room magazines
Organization: Yale University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 12:00:40 EDT

Today I went to the optometrist to get new contact lenses.  Of course,
I had to wait for about 15 minutes before the doctor got around to
seeing me.  The only magazines they had sitting out for patients to
read were Newsweek (which I have a subscription to and have therefore
read all the issues), Sports Illustrated (which I have absolutely no
interest in reading), and one copy of Reader's Digest (ugh).
 
I ended up flipping through the Reader's Disgust and reading all the
little joke sections.  That magazine is so blandly wholesome, it's
downright sickening.
 
!Peeve:  My vision with my brand-new contacts is better than 20-20.
 
 
Alex Elliott
The Lemming.
ellbrua@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu
From: ELLBRUA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (The Lemming)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: pocquers (was Re: Smoking Surrogate)
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:57:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: YaleVM.167C2FC7C.ELLBRUA
Organization: Yale University

In article <ku3gmpINN3sb@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>
geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Tricky Gnosis) writes:
 
>>	Both are wrong.  Everyone knows it's "tonic".
>
>
>Damn!  *That's* the one I was trying to remember yesterday afternoon when
>I wrote about "soda."  I *knew* there was another one that was even weirder
>and highly regionalistic.  This is a common term in New England, isn't it?
>I think I first heard it from someone from Massoftwoshits.
 
Actually, most people I know from New England use the term "soft drink".
 
ObPeeve:  New England hot dog buns are better than any others because
          they aren't all covered with crust on the outside, but you
          can't get them anywhere outside of New England.
 
 
Alex Elliott
The Lemming.
ellbrua@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC))
Subject: Re: Gender assumptions
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:35:30 GMT

In article <kubevsINNji3@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.231105.20634@umbc3.umbc.edu> potler@umbc4.umbc.edu 
>(Laura Potler (GSFC)) writes:
>>people that want to "network". with me.
>"Hey, bay-bee, the name's Geoff; the ladies call me 'Tripod.'  Wanna
>interface?"

have your people call my people.

-l "my people will hang up on your people" p


-- 
-lp **************************************************************************
* What do you tell forever's children when it's their turn to hurt and heal? *
* What ever spins the grim tornado can also turn a potter's wheel.           *
************************************************************** --Bill Danoff *
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: alex@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Vrchoticky)
Subject: Re: QuasiKrautFussing
Organization: Technische Universitaet Wien, Abt. fuer Echtzeitsysteme 
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:29:04 GMT

monson@diablo.amd.com (Steve Monson) writes:

>yes, some of these things are pretty big, but imagine having to refer to
>something as commonplace as a "garage" as an "Autoreparaturwerkstatt"!

but hey, at least the word *says* what it means! a `garage' in german
is just some place where you can park the car. don't expect to get it 
fixed. in fact, expect to get it emptied, at least in certain areas.

>We had a German exchange student staying with us last year, and I asked
>him if they really used the whole word all the time, and he said they did.

did you ever consider the possibility that he was kidding? 
given the appropriate context everyone *i* know would simply talk of 
a `werkstatt'. 

lingo-peeve: words in foreign languages that fool you into believing
they mean something that they in fact don't. `alley' isn't `Allee',
the german word `eventuell' means `possibly' and not `eventually', etc. 

-alex

-- 
Alexander Vrchoticky             alex@vmars.tuwien.ac.at
TU Vienna, CS/Real-Time Systems  +43/1/58801-8168
"we only question our worlds when they get out of hand" (seven sioux)
From: egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Short gals--->Tall guys
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:19:56 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <92101.173653JIMBO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> JIMBO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:

>>So you think the only role a woman has to play in your life is to fit
>>into the right place under your arm?  Jesus, you deserve the
>>abovementioned airhead.
>
>I WAS JUST KIDDING...

In that case, if you come over to my place maybe I can provide some
suitable punishment.  How about handcuffs, thigh-length leather boots,
whips, chains and melted chocolate with CHOPPED NUTS*?

>(SNIFF)BY THE WAY(SNIFF)HOW TALL ARE (SNIFF)YOU?

10' 8", little boy (heh heh heh)

*You can provide the nuts.  I've got a suitable machete for chopping.

Babs "Oh do come up and see my collection of antique carving knives" Page
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: lozanoj@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Jones)
Subject: Re: Geographic areas (was Re: pocquers (was Re: Smoking Surrogat
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 11:19:17 GMT

That Self-Styled Judge of Cultural Value, Alex Elliott, writes:

>In article <10210@cernvax.cern.ch> Steve Bougerolle writes:
>>Peeve:  The term "midwest."  If you look at a map it becomes obvious that
>>this refers to a geographical area well into the eastern side of the
>>continent.  Why do people keep using this stupid geographical anachronism?
>>
>[Much of the Lemming's High School geography lesson expunged] 
>West of the Mississippi is a vast cultural wasteland populated
>mainly by gophers.  This is the west.

Takes a rat to know a rat, eh, Mr. _Lemming_? Cultural commentary from
someone who is named after a small rodent popularly known for its habit of
committing mass suicide is dubious, at best.
 
Many of those of us who are not gophers say "soda" instead of "pop".
The difference between us and easterners is that we aren't anal 
about things like this.

>On the western side of the Coast Ranges and the Cascades is the
>west coast.  I understand that there are some vaguely interesting
>bits over there, but as far as I know, it's all hearsay.
> 
>If you had the proper world-view that the east coast is the
>cultural center of the continent, it would be obvious that
>the midwest is indeed the midwest.
> 
>>Take it from a real westerner; until you get to at least Michigan and maybe
>>Wisconsin, you're all uptight easterners, so don't bother with those fine
>>gradations.
> 
>You're just jealous.  Any place where it takes more than an couple of
>hours to drive between major cities can't be all that interesting.

Ahh, yes! Isn't watching blurry images of concrete and glass towers go
by as you drive from city to city *ever* so much more exciting than
one of those dreadful natural landscapes <shudder>. I can only be thankful
that I live a mere 20 minutes away from a major urban center, culturally
vacuous though it may be. Otherwise I might suffer from culture withdrawal
and start calling soda "pop".

ObPeeve: It's been more than a week since I came back from Spring Break,
         and I'm only just now caught up on all the postings which were
         made while I was away.

AntiPeeve: I spent three days of my break skiing with friends at Keystone.

AntiAntiPeeve: I came back to face tests in three of my classes. I think
               I did well, though, so this peeve isn't as big as it
               could have been.

Jones
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From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: More Bitter Irony
Keywords: Losers
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:47:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: igor.1992Apr13.214731.6934
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, San Francisco

In article <kujb4nINNv8@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM
(Geoff Miller) writes:
>Kinison was one of my alltime favorite comics (which probably comes as no
>surprise to anyone familiar with his style), and I regret that I never
>had the opportunity to attend one of his performances.

I particularly liked the show where he talked about the Ethiopian famine
victims:

"THERE'S NO FOOD HERE!  THIS IS THE DESERT!  IN AMERICA WE DON'T LIVE
IN DESERTS.  GO SOMEPLACE WHERE THERE'S FOOD!"

That and his appearance in "Back to School".

   don
From: egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Psychology (was: Re: Lawyers not Chemists)
Keywords: *WARNING* Psychobable Ranting
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:36:30 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <20227@castle.ed.ac.uk> egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:

>Or writing software. Where were you when Tony needed last minute advice about
>High Wycombe? Having threatened to drink everyone under the table
>BABS WIMPED OUT

Aha! That's what you think!  Unfortunately, me living in such a social
whirl and all that, I was actually at another party at the time, getting
sozzled on sangria and illicit substances.  

However, if another venue is arranged I will be more than happy to
oblige

Babs
From: Peter.Bruells@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Peter Bruells)
Subject: Re: QuasiKrautFussing
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:59:52 GMT

monson@diablo.amd.com (Steve Monson) writes:

>Fastkrauts list some truly ginormous German words:
>(Scott Griffith, Sun Lumpyware) writes: Aktiengesellschaften SchellpreBenfabrik

>yes, some of these things are pretty big, but imagine having to refer to
>something as commonplace as a "garage" as an "Autoreparaturwerkstatt"!
>We had a German exchange student staying with us last year, and I asked
>him if they really used the whole word all the time, and he said they did.


*sigh*   So much about the realibility of exchange students.
I assure you, while everbody over here know what a
"Autoreparaturwerkstatt" is, no one while use that word unless he's
forced too, i.e. when answerering an important paper cought up by
(PEEVEALERT!) german bureaucratists. In everyday-life they just say
'Werkstatt' and leave it to the listener to guess what kind of Werkstatt
was meant.  


>Still, my favorite German word (recalled for these many years since the
>eight grade, where I learned it) is "die Verkehrstreifenpolizistenmutze,"
>(with umlaut-u) or "the hat of the policeman on traffic duty".

Peeve: Language in Schools. Judging from my English and Herr Monsons
story, it sucks everywhere. :(

Verkehrstreifenpolizistenmutze <- yes, an syntactically correct german
word 


ObPeeve: Is-it-true-that-one-can-stich-n-nouns-together-in-German-?
-posts in soc.culture Treppen.

Zusatz-Aergernis: Leute auf Treppen !! Warum bestehen sie darauf mir im
Weg zu sitzen, anstatt sich ein gemuetliches Plaetzchen in der Cafete zu
suchen ?

Anti-Peeve: Their fingers under my heel. "Sorry, didn't see you." Heh
From: pwg@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Goldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Amurrica (was Re: peeve dump)
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:22:49 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh

In article <11032@autodesk.COM>, booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:
> In article <1992Apr6.232408.25410@umbc3.umbc.edu> potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC)) writes:
> >
> >antipeeve: i shot a gun for the first time last week. a 45. didn't hit the
> >	target at all! :) still, i'd always wanted to experience it. 
> 
> A .22 is easier to fire and hit the target with.
> 
> Peeve: I still have not had a chance to ride a horse.

Peeve: The fact that a nation full of people desperately trying
to relive the nineteenth century (sometimes A.D. sometimes B.C.)
still manages to remain an economic superpower and register 
technological advances.

Peeve: Reading this newsgroup gives the impression that the above
nation is full of people obsessed with guns, whose attitude seems to
be "don't leave home without one". Despite this, there remains some
semblance of law and order over there, where a state of complete
anarchy would appear to be well-deserved.

yours peevishly,
Paul.

"We believe that politics is a pious profession that should not be muddled
by conflict and controversy."
  - from the manifesto of the Natural Law Party, April 1992
From: mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil (Michael Hart)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Smoking Surrogate
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:17:46 GMT

In <1992Apr9.065007.16316@news.iastate.edu> z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Iowegian) writes:

>	I think it is high time some GIF's were posted to this group,
>specifically JZ, drew, Geoff, and the rest of those Californicators
>who spend inordinate amounts of time making me laugh.

>[obviously incorrect mental picture of theGeoff deleted]

Actually, I picture Geoff as about 5'10", 180lbs., slight beer belly,
but otherwise trim, clean shaven, thinning hair, about ~38y.o., 
dark hair & eyes, intermittant tie wearer, usually in slacks, but 
occasionally nice jeans, comfy shoes, generally dynamic at work,
my kind of eccentric otherwise (I mean, anyone who reads a.p, a.t.,
rec.aviation, and thinks professional sports are bullshit can't be
all bad!), somewhat popular with the ladies, probably has a stable 
of 2 or three semi-regular squeezes, and an occasionally major
partier.

Dan S., on the other hand... I got a mental slap in the face when you
revealed recently that you're 25!  

>	Anyway, what is the concensus?

I think an assortment of alt.peevers-gifs would be nice.

!peeve: I've been trying to get together with lp for drinks.

Peeve: Haven't had time to do it yet!

--
|   Michael G. Hart                   mhart@blackjack.dt.navy.mil    |
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|     You think _I_ speak for the government or the navy?  HAH!      |
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Newsgroups: alt.peeves,talk.bizarre
From: steveb@physics.ubc.ca (Steve Bougerolle [axen gradstud])
Subject: Re: Superfluous andRedundant Debate
Reply-To: steveb@erich.triumf.ca
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:10:53 GMT

booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards) writes:

>Peeve: People whose idea of listening behavior is to stand and stare.


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Peeve:  Vending Machines which don't take loonies*

Anti-Peeve:  Coffee Crisp, you're more than a candy bar
             you're a nice light snack, that's what you are...

* Explanation for non-Canadians:  About 5 years ago the government of
Canada introduced a $1 coin.  At the time it was less than popular.  The
feds made a minor blunder and put a picture of a loon on one side of the
new coin.  Ever since then the $1 coin has been referred to as a "loonie."

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Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: bill@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (William Logan Lee)
Subject: Re: Beef(was: Cold Showers)
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 07:50:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.050236.5239@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> allane@earth.gas.unsw.OZ.AU.gas.unsw.OZ.AU (Allan Evans) writes:
>!Peeve: Anything made from a cow or a sheep is relatively cheap in Australia.

Today's Specials:
    Full Rump US$1.73 a pound (A$4.99 a kilogram)
    Full Blade US$1.38 a pound (A$3.99 a kilogram)
How does that compare?

>Peeve: Australian beef is range fed (or something...) and is not as tender or
>as tasty as Alberta beef. It is still good though...

And better for you as it is not as marbled as OS types.  Better yet,
Kangaroo meat for those on low cholesterol diets.

Bill Lee

Newsgroups: alt.peeves