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From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: Real Bankrupts (was: Mojahedin revisted
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:14:15 GMT

In article saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
|> farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri) writes:
|> [stuff deleted]
|> >Well my dear brother,  Atleast when I plan to do such a thing I will
|> >open my eyes and look around and see who the friends  are and not
|> >just become the puppets of an enemy (IRAQ) and follow a leader
|> >that his patriotism toward Iran is questionable!
|> 
|> OK Farhad, define a puppet. 


By staying in IRAQ.  See,  Sodom is not worried about that part
of Iraq anymore, you guys are defending it for him.


|> 
|> With respect to the Mojahedin, you must realize that 
|> they HAVE never supported any policy of the Iraqi
|> government (or any other government for that matter).
|> A puppet must have some sort of sympathy or orientation
|> towards its master(s).

By staying in IRAQ, you may not know but you are supporting
Sodom indirectly.

|> 
|> You see Farhad, the Khomeini regime would like to 
|> spread this myth that the Mojahedin are either dependent
|> on or are in some ways affiliated with the Iraqi
|> government.

By staying in IRAQ.   Current regime does not have to do any
thing.

|> 
|> The events of the Gulf war proved how independent the 
|> Mojahedin were. Despite the fact the entire Mojahedin
|> leadership and the NLA were in Iraqi soil, the Mojahedin
|> never expressed support for the Iraqi actions. That
|> is being independent.
|> 
|> Also, Iraqis signed cease-fire treaty with the Khomeini
|> regime, exchanged friendly letters, called each other
|> borther, exchanged embassadors, etc. The position of
|> the Mojahedin remains the same: struggle to overthrow
|> the Khomeini regime despite whatever else the Iraqi
|> government is involved with. A puppet would cease its
|> activities and put arm struggle aside.
|> 


It dose not matter who the bad guys are here anymore, IRAN or IRAQ

what the matter is that you guys are still in IRAQ and allowing
yourself to be used by IRAQ for their benefits.  I call this a
puppet. See Saied* ,  I say it again, it does not matter how 
sincere NLA is toward saving Iran;    As long as you guys are
in IRAQ and do not acknowledge the mistakes  you made during
the war no one will trust you guys.


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         +----------------------------------------------------+
        /   Farhad  Shakeri         E-Mail:                  /
       /  Stanford   University     farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU  /
      / Computer Science Department                        /
     +----------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: **** Windows 3.1 Makes its Official Debut Today 04/06/92
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:11:38 GMT


CHICAGO, ILLINOIS, U.S.A., 1992 APR 6 (NB) -- Thousands of computer 
users and industry experts will get their first look at Microsoft's 
Windows 3.1 today at Windows World in Chicago.

The upgrade to Windows has already been positioned with freight
deliverers and is expected to be delivered today to those who placed
their orders early.

Windows 3.1 is being promoted by Microsoft as doing what Windows 3.0
does, but doing it easier and faster.

Microsoft and IBM have now both released new operating systems, with
IBM's OS/2 2.0 making its predicted release date last Tuesday.

Microsoft may have stolen a march on IBM in the hotly contested
operating system wars, having announced agreements with nearly 100
PC manufacturers and resellers to preload Windows 3.1. Users who
buy a PC that already has Windows 3.1 loaded are less likely to want
to try OS/2 2.0. A number of manufacturers are also preloading
applications such as word processing, spreadsheets and other 
programs.

Microsoft just about cornered the market on floppy disks to get 
ready to ship the estimated 1 million copies of Windows 3.1 it 
expects to ship in the first 30 days.

A number of software companies have already announced that their 
products are Windows 3.1 compatible.
From: mlahsaie@supernet.dallas.haus.com (Mithra Lahsaie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Do you..., did you ....
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:02:24 GMT
Organization: Harris Adacom Corporation

aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:

>I am:

>	Confused about the country I grew up in and who to believe,
>	so I disbelieve any and everybody. Given all of the above,
>	do you expect otherwise?

It's sad that so many people had to lose their lives both during Shah's time
and after that.  Every one of those people was public enemy number one to the
ones with other ideologies.  But, every single one was also a human being, an
Iranian, and somebody's child/parent/spouse.

You don't have to believe in anyone.  Just believe in yourself.  Also don't ask
what your country's done for you, ask what you've done for your country.  The
best thing we can do for our country is to set aside our political differences.
I'm not saying we all should adapt to a single idea.  What I'm saying is that
people's political belief should not be the basis for (dis)liking them.

There are some things that we can not change; the past is one of them.  Let's
stop blaming the past on each other.  Let's start building the future
together.
From: afghahi@news.cs.odu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Islamic marxist(mojAhedin)
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:05:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr7.030517.4663
Organization: Old Dominion University Dept. of CS, Norfolk VA
Originator: afghahi@aethelbehrt.cs.odu.edu


"Dorood bar shoma"
IslAmic marxists, so called mojahedin, did side with the invading enemy
during the eight year war. They also fought against Iran alongside iraqis
during this war. A number of their members inside Iran have been used by
iraq as spies. It is hard to believe that they actualy expect iranians to
have something to do with them. Considering their actions and with any
standard, they could only be considered trators. They know very well that
iranians generally dislike them very much, and a number of iranians actualy
hate them for being such shameless trators. However, they do not
care about that. They wish to gain power and enforce themselves upon iranians
at any cost to whomever ,and by any means. Considering the fact that they are
marxists, they believe that the goal justifies the means. Of course, their
goal is to be our masters. Thanks but no thanks. "mA rA beh khir-e-to omidy
nist, shar maresAn".
"KhodA negahdAr"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: How to help your people (Re: Terrorist Khomeini regime ...
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 19:18:30 GMT

baze@milton.u.washington.edu (Behzad) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>  I am getting an education here so that I can help my country with my 
>  knowledge.  My best weapon is my knowlede, not a rifle in my hands 
>  inside of Iraq.

I honestly hope that you can satisfy your conscience by saying
the above. The future of Iran certainly needs people like you.

The Mojaheidn and their supporters however cannot have a peace
of mind while their people are suffering NOW. Also, you can do
a lot more than just picking a rifle to help your people out.

>  You cannot eliminate the Khomeini regime by killing pasdars.  You 
>  have to use your education to slowly improve the country to the
>  better and also to improve the government.  

The objective is not to kill pasdars. This regime is niether
democratic nor prone to reform. There is no way one can reform
this regime from within. The experiences of Bazargan, Montazeri,
etc. attest to this fact. This regime must only be overthrown.
And the people must overthrow it. But people need a well-equipped
army to confront the pasdars who are armed and kill indiscriminately.
The prupose of the NLA is to provide a military balance for the
revolution.

>  I am not a supporter of the current regime in Iran, neither do I support
>  Rajavi, his ideology, and his followers.  But, I still love my homeland
>  Iran.  

The above is just fine, Behzad. You are entitled to your
opinion and I hope that you can serve your country and
your people in the future. 

No one is asking you to support the Mojahedin. To be of
a great service to your country, I believe, you must really
be educated in who the real enemies and who the friends of
your country and people are. But being educated as such is
your own responsibility. Good lucks.
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not :-)?)
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 05:49:47 GMT

amoojoon@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh (Bacheh Morshed) writes:
>mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>>
>>You must have been watching "Daiee jAn Napoleon" lately.
>>
>>dAdAsh zAdeh    :-)
>
> DAdAsh zAdeh joonam,
>
> vAllA doroogh cherAh, tA ghabr A A A A! Ma be cheshmeh khodemAn nadeedeem
> vali pendAri engleeseeyA deedeh bAshan! moltafeti bAbAm jAn?

moment...moment...amoo joon, shomA digeh cherAh bA een engeleesA bad
shodeen? aslan shomA bayad bA khAnoome sardAr mahArat khAn yek safar
be sAn-ferAn-sisco berin tA bebeenin een engeleesA hamcheen ham ke mee
farmAeen bad nistand.

>        To keh inghadeh balAyee          cherA peesh mA nayAyee?
>             
> hAlA yeh bedeh amoo jAn

befarmA amoo:

yousof e gomgashteh bAz Ayad be kan'An gham makhor
            kolbeh ye ahzAn shavad roozi golestAn gham makhor

agar momken ast, re marhemat befarmAeed.

> amoojoon

    --mack
From: Madanipour_ali @Tandem.com (Ali Madanipour)
Subject: Re: So INSULTING
Organization: Tandem
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 00:15:21 GMT

In article <amoojoon.31@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh>, amoojoon@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh (Bacheh Morshed) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Apr14.003357.8241@acsu.buffalo.edu> sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:
> 
> >I think those who swear and insult others should have their previlege
> >of posting in this newsgroup taken away from them .
> 
> >Swearing and flaming each other does not get you guys any where except
> >ruining the reputation of this newsgroup ... Do not forget that a lot
> >of people who are not even Iranian read this group ... 
> 
> >So knock it off and use better words to shout your message out .
> 
> >With all the respect to all who love their homeland Iran ...
> 
> >r.
> 
> Ramin jAn,
> 
> Although I myself do not enjoy witnessing/participating in "bee hadd-o hesAb"
> flaming, I have to disagree with you on the hard position that you're taking.
> 
> How would someone "take away" someone else's priviledges of posting on this 
> "mamlekat"? Are you gonna decide that or amoo? Well, amoo is too busy being 
> a Bacheh Morshed, not even thinking about becoming a "dAroogheh".
> 
> But since you've shown genuine interest in assuming such a position amoo 
> will not only vote for you but have convinced mash YadollAh to let you use 
> his ghahveh khooneh as your campaign headquarters. So Ramin jAn, "beeyAr 
> harcheh dAri ze mardi-o zoor" since becoming a "dAroogheh" in SCI is not as 
> easy that one might think.
> 
> >With all the respect for those who love their homeland Iran...
> 
> ghorbooneh dahanet amoo jAn, why not sharing some of that respect with 
> ahAliyeh mohtarameh SCI? 
> 
> >r.
> 
> shAd-o khosh akhlAgh bAsheed,
> 
> amoojoon
> 
> 

In defend of Ramin, and I don't know Ramin, and those who have respect for
others. It is very insulting to see some people under assumed names keep
insulting everyone and have no guts to publish their real names or their
real organizations.

If you are realy serious about stating your openion in a newsgroup then 
don't hide under assumed names.  I also don't think any body wants to be 
a dAroogheh but just expects you guys to have enough respect for other readers.

Ali Madanipour
Tandem Computers
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: MoahA'ereh as well : -) Re: "The Successor" by GholAm Hossein SAedi
Originator: sehari@vincent1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:49:16 GMT

In <1992Apr15.004223.20918@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:

>In article <saied.703295671@odin> saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>> <stuff deleted>
>>closely affiliated with the National Democratic
>>Front (NDF). The NDF is headed by Dr. Matin-Daftari
>>(late Dr. Mossadeq' grandsond) and is a member of 
>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>the National Council of Resistance of Iran.
>>

>Giram pedareh to bood fAzel
>		az fazleh pedar to rA che hAsel ????

>lAm bedeh.

>:-)

With all of our disagreements, Asgar Agha, We both have the same opinion
on this issue.  Here is your Lam:

Lab-ash Me-Bos-ad-o Khon Me-Khorad jaam
             Rokhash Me-Binad-o Gol Me-Konad Khoi
Bedah jaam-e  Mei-o Az Jam Makon Yad
              Ke Me-Danad ka Jam Kei bod-o Kei Ki.
                                                      Hafez.
Kiss the lips, and drank blood, the mug.
           Sees the face, and finds courtship the follower.
Give me the wine mug, don't remind me of Jam( Iranian King)
           Which it knows, who was Jam and who was Ki  (Ki-Khosro)

It takes a great ignorance, to try to clean the Mojaheadine's mess with the
name of one the greatest people in our history, Dr.  Mohamad Mosadegh. Here
is another poem that explains this situation better:

De-Shanidam Ka Ablahi Me-goft, Padaram Vazir-e Khan Bodast
             Kas shenidi Ka Go Khorad Go-yad, Ein Be Vakhteh Di Nan Bodast?

Yesterday, I heard a stupid was saying my father was the minister of the lord,
Have you ever heard, anybody eats shit and says this was bread Yesterday?!

                     With highest regards,
                          Babak   Sehari.

P.S. Dr. Mosadegh was so great that even me, who am not affarid to
insult anybody, have some reservation in writting the above poem for
his grandson.  However, nobody is perfect, and everybody makes mistakes.
Therefore, I am willing to try to convince myself, that his grandson has
made a mistake to join Mojaheadines.  Never the less, I am NOT willing to 
extend the same for any other leader in Mojaheadine's group.
From: benf@mips.com (Ben Fathi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Parsi Language (was Re: Amojoon's VAjeh-nAmeh)
Date: 7 Apr 1992 20:26:52 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dish.mips.com

In article <1992Apr2.234435.3633@watserv1.waterloo.edu> arash@sunee.waterloo.edu (Arash Jahangir) writes:
>
>Anyways I have two suggestions/requests:  The first is with regards to the 
>vAjeh-nAmeh (here is another complex word that is self explanatory).  I have
>noticed there are a number of verbs and expressions in English that have a
>strikingly similar counter part in Parsi.  Say for example "draw" this is 
>equivalent to "kesheedan" in Parsi.  Though the two verbs do not sound close
>their usage is amazingly similar as in drawing a picture, drawing a sword,
>drawing the curtains, and as I once read in Merchant of Venice, drawing breath.
>An example of similar expression is "do-roo" and "two faced", "yek-rang" and
>"true-colour".  My firs suggestion is to add such words to the vAjeh-nAmeh
>or a similar listing.

How about a listing of persian words/expressions that are totally bizarre
or hilarious when translated into other languages? Here's a few to get you
started:

Expression		Literal Translation		Real Meaning
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Zamin khordam.		I ate the ground.		I fell down.
Pedaram dar oomad.	My father came out.		I got tired.
Delam gerefteh.		My heart has got [it].		I'm sad.
Booyash ra mishnavi?	Can you hear the smell?		Can you smell it?
Dast as saram bardAr.	Take your hand off my head.	Leave me alone.
Tokhm-e sag		Dog's egg			bastard
cheshmash do-do mireh.	His eyes go two-two.		He's dizzy.
Man midoonam bA to.	I know with you.		I'll take care of you.
							[I'll beat you up].
Dast be delam nazAr.	Don't put your hand on my	Leave me alone.
			heart.				[I am sad].
Dast az rish-e ma	Take your hand off my beard.	Leave me alone.
bardAr.							[you are bothering me].

Let's hear some more. :-)

	ben

PS: Arash, did you get that e-mail I sent you a couple of weeks ago (asking
    if you went to Alborz)?
-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Ben Fathi			MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.
benf@mips.com		 928 Arques Ave, Sunnyvale CA 94086
From: kambizm@ifi.uio.no (Mobarekeh Kambiz Iranpour)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: let us talk about sex baby!
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:35:55 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Originator: kambizm@svarte.ifi.uio.no

I see some discussion going on, on subjects like seeghe, legalized
prostitution and ... 
How about breaking some taboos. One of my friends told me that much of the
psychopathy in Iran is because of sexual frustration. We have had the
traditional problem of dowery there is economical hardships causing people
not to get married until many are in their 30s while some never get
married.
 When they first marry, it is as if the sole goal of marriage has been
reproduction. Bride explodes for the first time exactly after nine months. No
wonder that even with this much sexual frustration in the country population
growth is this horrible. 
  Rafsanjani addressed sexual problem by proposing seegheh but he was very much
opposed by the traditionalists not only among religious hirarchy but among
people themselves. Western sexual freedom is totally condemned in the
country and there are even many books written on the claimed horrible
effects of masterbation!
There have been some cases of stoning women too and horrible stories of that
sort. This vicious circle of frustration ofcourse influence greatly the
health of mind.   
                                                        Kambiz
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: In reply to Mr. Jabar
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:34:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

jaber's signature includes a SCUD missle:

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><<PISSSSSSSSS   |   |______| . .                          |  |        / Mr. 
><<              |____________________________________________|_______/ Jabar
><<			          /
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SCUD: 

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D irections
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: A Quick Question
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:07:45 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <ku9gvfINNgfs@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.175252.15477@Princeton.EDU> bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi) writes:
>>In article <sehari.702833956@vincent1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>>>of the hostage taking was started at the shaw's time, you guys remember
>>                                          ^^^^^
>
>>Q1- Why does Babak call shah, shaw.
>
>actually he does type shah when he means shah.  he was refering to george
>bernard shaw in that sentence.  babak rarely makes spelling mistakes.
>
>>Q2- Why does Babak's smily looks like this -:)
>
>if in a smiley, ':' are the eyes, and ')' is the mouth, then
>the '-' in -:) can only be the scar from lobotomy.
				          ^^^^^^^^
since a friend asked what that is:

lobotomy: A surgical operation that removes one or more
          fronal lobes of the brain.
From: payman@hardy.u.washington.edu (Payman Arabshahi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Kerman
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:55:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr15.235548.27190
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <kunaf0INNr23@spim.mips.com> benf@mips.com (Ben Fathi) writes:
>
>"... The last two dynasties spilled a great deal of innocent blood in order
>to win or keep the throne. Imagine the monarch Agha Mohammad Khan, who
>orders the entire population of the city of Kerman murdered or blinded-no
>exceptions. His praetorians set energetically to work. They line up the
>inhabitants, slice off the heads of the adults, gouge out the eyes of the
>children. ...
>
>				From:		Shah of Shahs
>				By:		Ryszard Kapuscinski
>				Published By:	Vintage International
>
>I have no reason to question the accuracy of the above statements. I
>was simply shocked to see them. Did this really happen? 

Yes, this really did happen.  The blinding of almost the 
entire population of Kerman on his orders is quite famous.

On another note, the book by Kapuscinski is perhaps one of the
best descriptive/narrative accounts of contemporary Iranian history,
whereby the author, while sitting in his hotel room in Tehran,
during the 1978-79 revolution, goes over a number of photographs
he has and describes them, adding many historical details and
telling it as a story.  It is a very absorbing book.

payman 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ramin@eng.umd.edu (Ramin Rezaiifar)
Subject: ***** DO NOT READ THIS ARTICLE *****
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 21:52:04 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: ramin@tea.eng.umd.edu


Hi everybody,


First of all sorry about the 'subject'. I just made it this way to be eye
catching!

Does anybody knows these guys:

      PEYMAN SADEGH
      MEHRDAD HASSANI
      MASOUD PAZHOUH 

Please respond via email. 



                   Thanks a lot,


                    Ramin Rezaiifar
From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Shahrokh and his Modda'i
Date: 13 Apr 92 08:57:26 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <sehari.703016592@vincent1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:

>Dear seyyed,   these people insult not only one but also all our religion
>and then expect you to be polite, too. They do not argue in a logical
>manner, they know that they will be defeated in a logical argument.

oh yes, the sheer number of tarafdaar's you and seyyed have gained 
thru your impeccable logic is simply astonishing.

>Now, when you attack back, they cry like a wolf that you are insulted us.
>If Mr. Shash-Khor-e Mortazavi does not want to be insulted, he should not
>insult others first.  

youre mixed up, _i_ didnt complain about being insulted.  and dont forget
that you too, drew first blood.  do you not remember your commentaries
on iranian women?  on vaseline and my sister?  on requesting naked 
pictures of female sci readers?  consider me extremely gheyratee.

>They do not understand based on our religion, culture

oh paaaleeez...  dont even associate yourself with our culture.
seyyed has turned off enough people about eslaam.  now youre
being associated with our culture can be just as disastarous.
to our culture you and your kind are nothing but bacteria - not
too intelligent and harmful only in large numbers.

>if someone slap us on the right chick, we slap him or her back on the right
				 ^^^^^
You've Got The Wrong _Chick_ Baby (Uh Huh, Uh Huh!)  that's _cheek_,
you know, the two sides of your face that are so red from sci people
slapping it so much.  _chicks_ on the other hand, are what you should
avoid at all costs, since you shouldnt have any offsprings.

>chick. If they do not like to be slapped, it is good idea that they do not slap
>first!
>
>                       With highest regards,
>                            Babak   Sehari.