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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:59:07 CDT
From:         JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Subject: Re: Hackable ???

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To all (especially if you are new to the list):

Do NOT believe the lies spread by Rich Warner.  He is a well known Novell
biggot who frequently tries to inject misinformation about VINES.

There is no way to capture, decode, and reinject/replay VINES packets/sessions
on the network.  The VS service will detect and prevent you from logging in.

Mike Crist
TRW
--------------------------

Mike,

	The earlier points made refer to the possibility of capturing packets
and injecting them after being changed back into the data stream. It is
doubtful that you could login with that kind of information - however, enough
damage could be done that this is, indeed, a serious potential threat to
network health. And, as I read it, that was all the post was about. And I
agree, it could affect ALL networked systems.

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu

p.s. IMHO it ain't necessary to be calling names. Rich is entitled to his
opinions, just as we all are. Hell, I aint thrilled about a lot of things and
can debate the merits of alternatives, part of which debate is presenting
data in it's most favorable light to my viewpoint.
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:05:09 EDT
From:         Shirley Rodgers <D1SLR@AKRONVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Verifying fax number Netmanage Inc.
              5 Oct 1992 10:03:50 +0100 from
              <Hendrik.Klompmaker@BEHEER.ZOD.WAU.NL>

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:03:50 +0100 <Hendrik.Klompmaker@BEHEER.ZOD.WAU.NL> said:
>Hi,
>
>Sorry to bother the list with this but I need to verify Netmanage's Fax number
>that was posted to the list last week. It doesn't seem to be correct.
>If you've got anything else the 405/257-6405 please let me know.
>
>Greetings Hendrik,
>
The fax # I have for NetManage is (408)257-6405.

Shirley Rodgers
University of Akron
SRodgers@uakron.edu
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:27:19 EDT
From:         Lou=Janelle%Faculty%WAYNE@AUBURN.UAKRON.EDU
Subject:      Horizons Technology

Horizons Technology
700 Technology Park Drive
Billerica MA 01821-4196
(508)663-660
(508)663-8357 TELECOPIER
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:54:56 CDT
From:         JZeevi%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
Subject: Re: Hackable ???

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detail.  Banyan also offers an Applications Toolkit course which assists the
developer in using the toolkit to create Vines-integrated applications.

Erik Klein
Systems Consultant
Banyan Systems, Inc.
San Francisco
-------------------

Sure, but there is no toolkit available. (I know, it is shipping as we
speak... but I've heard that before, too.)

RE : Erik's first point that capturing a NONCE would be useless, I would
argue that a sufficiently motivated hacker could capture the data and replay
it to gain other important information - during the continuing session. After
all, the nonce will stay "valid" even if the net is brought down and up with
a user session logged in. Sure, it may take 10-12 tries to figure out exactly
how to spit out  the appropriate packet sequence, but it can be done. Which
was the earlier point.

	josef
	jzeevi@swri.edu
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:22:44 PDT
From:         Craig Armstrong <craiga@SPOCK.DIS.CCCD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Automatic Logout
              92 9:44 am

>
> Okay, forgive my ignorance, but what is nounce?
>
A nonce is issued by Vanguard to uniquely identify a session with the
service. Kinda like a ST session handle only it applys to the VINES
security service....


--

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*  Craig Armstrong - VINES hack...             craiga@spock.dis.cccd.edu   *
*  Coast Community College District            (714) 432-5066              *
*  District Information Services               Costa Mesa,  Ca  USA  92626 *
*                                                                          *
*  "If it doesn't matter if you win or lose, why do they keep score?"      *
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:16:07 -0400
From:         "(Elizabeth F. Miller)" <emil@SEQ1.LOC.GOV>
Subject: Re: TRACKING PC'S

If the PCs are on the LAN, you can use something like Magee's Network HQ,
which grabs all sorts of data about PC workstations and puts it into a
database that you can add to.  I just got a review copy and am very
impressed.  I believe that there is also a similar product out there called
LAN Auditor.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^  Elizabeth F. Miller                  LL                    ^^
^^  Computer Systems Analyst             LL    CCC             ^^
^^  Library of Congress                  LL  CC   CC           ^^
^^  Collections Services, LM 642         LLLLLLLL              ^^
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^^                    those of my employer."                   ^^
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From: marquis@netcom.com (Roger Marquis)
Subject: Re: Server Performance Question
Organization: Netcom 
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:30:02 GMT

In article <BANYAN-L%92100220475754@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> REB100@PSUVM.PSU.EDU writes:
>I need some opinions from the experts out there about server performance.
>1) 4 Logical Drives - Existing File Service
>or
>2) A new drive - New File Service to run it - Loss of Certification
>Bob

Bob,

First rule of thumb: whenever possible give the users what they want.
The old, big iron MIS managers never understood this and look what happened 
to them.  

As far as performance goes: it depends on what kind of data you're
putting on the drive.  If we're talking about a database application it
would be a good idea to opt for an additional physical drive.  This
should not pose any certification problems.  

If you decide to use the existing drive. a new file service will not 
affect performance any more than a new subdirectory + 'setdrive /r:sudir'.  
Additional file services do require a small amount of memory but, unless 
your server is swapping, it should be no big deal.

Roger (marquis@netcom.com)
From: scotth@mcs213b.cs.umr.edu (Scott Hayes)
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Subject: Re: Powersave
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:09:27 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

In article <920930014238_76030.517_DHE22-1@CompuServe.COM> gary newcomb <76030.517@COMPUSERVE.COM> writes:
>   Does anyone use Performance Technology's Powersave backup software ? If
>so what tape units are you using with it ? ... 

We're using Powersave with Comtemporary Cybernetics Group's CY-8200, 2.5 GB,
8mm tape drive on a PC client.  We are able to backup 2 servers in about
3 hours with one tape at our site.

Scott Hayes
shayes@usgs.gov
scotth@cs.umr.edu
Disclaimers:  My words are mine, not my employer's.  This post is not an ad.
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:42:27 EDT
From:         "Elliott Coates" <coates@UMUC.UMD.EDU>
Subject: re: Telebit Modems

>Tell your reseller to get you a Practical Perphials instead.  They have a
>lifetime warranty and work fine with PC Dial-In.

A 9600bps Practical Peripheral performed *better* than the Hayes 9600 Ultra in
tests reported in Data Communications Magazine.

The Practical Peripheral modem costs substantially less than the comparable
Hayes model.

I don't know if the Practical Peripheral modem is Banyan certified.

Elliott Coates
coates@umuc.umd.edu
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 08:41:45 EST
From:         BChurch%CompServ%IUSB@VINES.IUSB.INDIANA.EDU
Subject:      Bulletin board software

   Our university is interested in installing a bulletin board for use on our
campus.  I've requested a demo of Trellis's TackBoard.  Do you all have any
suggestions or recommendations?  I will greatly appreciate your input!
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From: ag653@yfn.ysu.edu (Rob Clark)
Subject: Help New User Please
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:48:29 GMT


I apologise for taking up the time of everyone on the list:

I'm new to USENET, and am trying to figure out how to SUBSCRIBE
to this BANYAN list, so far without any luck.

I've tried sending subscription requests in the form:

To:  BANYAN-L@AKRONVM.BITNET
Subject: SUBSCRIBE
SUBSCRIBE BANYAN-L Rob Clark

and several other "variations on the theme" but they are all rejected
ed (no such list exists, etc.)

Can someone steer me in the right direction?

Thankyou.
-- 
Rob Clark               ag653@yfn.ysu.edu     [INTERNET}
Ottawa, ON, Canada       
                        ag653%yfn.ysu.edu@ysub.bitnet   {BITNET}
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:21:36 EDT
From:         SOHIER_DANNY%CTI%ULAVAL@CAMPUS.ULAVAL.CA
Subject:      re: Horizons Technology, Inc.

Watch out for LAN Auditor, The information I received from Aegis Corp., a
company that resells LA, was that it can't read information on computers with
ISA Technology, it will work fine on EISA and MCA.  A co-worker tested this
information and he found it to be true.  So anyone with EISA and/or MCA
achitecture is OK, as for the rest....(Big brother won't be watching you...)


All the best,

Danny J. Sohier
Laval University
DSOHIER@CTI.ULAVAL.CA
From: marquis@netcom.com (Roger Marquis)
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Subject: Re: STDA include doesn't work
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:28:34 GMT
Organization: Netcom


Marcel,

I believe there is a problem with including SMTP addresses. This was
mentioned on Compuserv a while back.  For both 4.11(x) and 4.10(x) on
either satellite or master STDA services SMTP inclusions will fail
with the symptoms you mentioned.  This has been a major disappointment
to more than one of the small corporations I work for as we could have 
added all VAX and UNIX users to STDA had this worked.  Creating and 
maintaining dozens of Vines accounts/groups/orgs simply for email is 
too much trouble for their sysadmin staff.  I wonder if anyone at Banyan 
is working on this?

Roger (marquis@netcom.com)
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:15:49 EDT
From:         SOHIER_DANNY%CTI%ULAVAL@CAMPUS.ULAVAL.CA
Subject:      re: re:Vines 5.0(5) & MACs

We at Laval U. have experienced the following errors a few times.  We get a
bomb when we load Vines Mail and a number 3 or 12 errror message along with
it.

All the best, have a great weekend everyone....

Danny J. Sohier
Laval University
Quebec city, Canada
DSOHIER@CTI.ULAVAL.CA
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:19:43 CDT
From:         Orlando=Ginn%MIS%Regents@ALPHA.OSRHE.UOKNOR.EDU
Subject:      re:Verifying fax number Netmanage Inc.

The fax number area code should be 408 instead of 405.

	408/257-6405
From: broughton@NICAD3.NIC.BC.CA (Simeon Broughton)
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Subject: SMTP headaches
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:52:14 GMT
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I'm using SMTP 1.2 on Vines 4.11, and I'm trying to set it up so all
my mail gets forwarded to another system (Vax/Vms). I put the line

setmail vaxmail@is@cx[broughton@nicad3.nic.bc.ca]

(where vaxmail@is@cx is my SMTP service and broughton@nicad3.nic.bc.ca
is my mail address on the vax)

in my profile. Any vines mail will be correctly forwarded to my vms
account, no problem. If however any mail from the outside world (SMTP) is
addressed to my vines account it will not get received and forwarded. I
see this in the log file:

09:09:15 [65536] SMTP send: 220 banyan.nic.bc.ca SMTP Mail Transfer Service
Ready
09:09:15 [65536] SMTP recd: HELO NICAD3.NIC.BC.CA
09:09:15 [65536] SMTP send: 250 OK
09:09:15 [512] SMTP processing mail from NICAD3.NIC.BC.CA
09:09:15 [65536] SMTP recd: MAIL FROM:<broughton@NICAD3.NIC.BC.CA>
09:09:15 [65536] SMTP send: 250 OK
09:09:15 [65536] SMTP recd: RCPT TO:<simeon%is%cx@banyan.nic.BC.CA>
09:09:15 [65536] SMTP send: 250 OK
09:09:15 [65536] SMTP recd: DATA
09:09:15 [65536] SMTP send: 354 Start mail input, end data with <CRLF>.<CRLF>
09:09:15 [65536] SMTP send: 250 OK
09:09:15 [65536] SMTP recd: QUIT
09:09:15 [512] Successfully received SMTP messageId 5tu7+fy5me
09:09:15 [65536] SMTP send: 221 banyan.nic.bc.ca Service closing transmission
channel
09:09:15 [512] SMTP closing connection with NICAD3.NIC.BC.CA
09:09:18 [65536] Unable to open envelope file /disk1/local/_smtp/data/
incoming/5tu7+fy5me.E. Errno: 2
09:09:19 [512] SMTP messageId 5tu7+fy5me conversion successful
09:09:21 [512] BMS messageId 5tu7+fy5me transfer successful

Eventually the message will be returned, I believe it will be expired,
unfortunately it takes a couple of days to do this. Is anyone out there
doing this successfully?

      Simeon Broughton, Manager, Computer Services. (604)334-5254
   North Island College, 2300 Ryan Road, Courtenay, B.C. V9N 8N6. CANADA
      broughton@nicad3.nic.bc.ca
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:08:47 CDT
From:         David=Blair%ComputerSrvcs%WILL@BIGBIRD.WILL.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      re: Intelligent Messaging Service

Thank you LauraZ for defending my honor!     

	-dlb

P. S.  I am enjoying the product I got at ABUI very much!!!
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:38:48 EDT
From:         Shawn Farrell <INSF@MCGILLB.BITNET>
Subject:      OS/2 BANCOMM2.SYS problem

For anyone using Banyan's LA software with OS/2 2.0 clients, I have
successfully setup 2 PS/2s that are connected to our Vines server
without a problem.  When I tried to setup a third machine, I get
an error message on bootup that the BANCOMM2.SYS device driver
was not installed properly and the system is hung.  If I remark out
that line and reboot, I get an internal processing error (IPE).

This seems rather strange in that the setup of all the files is the same
as the other 2 that are working fine.  The BANCOMM2.SYS driver loads
the communications settings for the Vines session.

Does anyone who is running OS/2 2.0 with the LA software or anyone
from Banyan have any info that would be useful in figuring out what
is going on here?

We are running Vines 4.11(5).

Thanks

Shawn Farrell
Merck Frosst

insf@musicb.mcgill.ca
From: MICHAEL.WILLETT@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Michael Willett")
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Subject: Free Computer Technology Review Subscriptions
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:56:57 GMT
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 11:25:12 PDT
From:         MA=Crist%Info_Sys%STG_IS@DSO3.DSD.TRW.COM
Subject: Re: Hackable ???

Josef,

There is a distinct difference between opinions and lies and intentional
misinformation.  Unfortunately, Mr. Warner is well known to the list for
contributing the latter more often than the former.  That's my opinion <G>.

Mike Crist
TRW
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:29:19 EDT
From:         R=Stoll%SysAdmin%7CG@LGGATE2.HQ.AF.MIL
Subject:      re: SMTP headaches

I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but the SMTP gateway will not resend
messages that it just received.  In other words, a message that comes in
through the gateway and hits a setmail command can't go back out the same
gateway.  You can send it out another gateway, but not the one that it came in
on.  Banyan knows about this, but I don't know if there's going to be a "fix"
for this.  Maybe in SMTP 1.3??


SSgt Robert Stoll
7th Communications Group
The Pentagon

rstoll@lggate2.hq.af.mil
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:35:00 EDT
From:         "Gregory.Burgess" <GBURGESS@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: VINES Formatter

Wait on minute!  If I have a CNS (2 in fact!) and I want to put an additional
drive in (1.2G) I have to get the drive from Banyan?

Greg Burgess
College of Business, MSU

Greg.Burgess@banyan.msu.edu
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:24:02 EDT
From:         Laura=Zuromsky%SupportServices%Banyan@HIPPO.BANYAN.COM
Subject:      re: MAIL - error 162

Keith:

System Error 162 basically means "no buffer space available".  TechNote 134
contains the error descriptions and some possible explanations of
cause/resolution.  There's also a patch out for 162 errors seen when using
certain Windows apps. with VINES communications....  The technotes are
online at csus.edu, or feel free to contact me for more info.

-LauraZ@Banyan.com
 (508) 836-1825
From: USERSGTX@UMICHUM.BITNET (Duane Foster)
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Subject: (no subject given)
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:04:58 GMT
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Has anyone tried ProComm Plus for Windows on a Banyan Comm service?
From: sad@deakin.OZ.AU (Scott Macdonald)
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Subject: PCPRINT under version 4.11(5)
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:23:14 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Victoria, Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tethys.cc.deakin.oz.au

Does anyone know of any problems when using PCPRINT under version 4.11(5) of
Vines.

We are having major problems when booting the PC that has the printer attached.
It will freeze after the PCPRINT statement has been executed.  It may take 
4 or 5 reboots to get it to work.

Any information will be appreciated.

thanks

Scott Macdonald
Computer Facilities Administration (Systems)
Deakin University Warrnambool
(sad@deakin.oz.au)
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:41:46 WET
From:         Boelen%FaB%WMW@CIVP.UTWENTE.NL
Subject:      Wangdat 1300 XL

I have a problem. I got a Wangdat 1300 XL DAT tape streamer for testing from
my reseller. It's SCSI-2 compatible. I've got an Adaptec 1542B SCSI-2
controller with 2 SCSI-2 drives working flawlessly. All terminators installed
correctly, no double SCSI id's. When the server boots up the Adaptec SCSI bus
search finds only my two HD's but not the DAT drive (at least it doesn't show
it). The first thing vines tells me is that there is a major disk 0 error, but
it works fine after three retries..... or thomething like that, this crucial
message is vissable for only a fraction of a second so I can only geuss what
it really says( the PAUSE key is obviously not supported :-]).
Has anybody had similar problems and or solutions ?

Thanks in advance

Lars Boelen
Department WMW
University Twente
The Netherlands
Boelen%FAB%WMW@CIVP.UTWENTE.NL
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:49:30 EST
Comments:     Converted from PROFS to RFC822 format by PUMP V2.2X
From:         "Mike Christiansen - Network Coordinator" <MCHRIST@FCCJ.BITNET>
Subject:      TRACKING PC'S

       MCCS 270

I recently recieved a copy of Saber Software's LAA package. If tracks system
hardware and location and some maintenance info (vendor, phone # etc). The
hardware inventory is automatically colleted from the workstation via a
program that you add to the login profile. It keeps up with RAM, HD, floppies
etc. From everything that I have seen it looks great. We have been using the
Saber Products for a couple of years now in our computer labs and have been
very happy. This looks like another good product. The Saber Products support
native Banyan calls. So you get all the StreetTalk info, server id # etc. You
can talk to them at 800-526-8086. They are located in Dallas, TX. Hope this
helps. Bye !!

If you have any questions please call (904) 632-3192
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:08:28 EDT
From:         Laura=Zuromsky%SupportServices%Banyan@HIPPO.BANYAN.COM
Subject: Re: VINES Formatter

Just a quick note to confirm that Roger Marquis is right - using the udf to
reformat R.Stoll's CNS disk would NOT have erased the Banyan signature.  The
tech I asked about this said that a bad block on that spot would indeed cause
the failure seen....  If I get any further suggestions or feedback, I'll
be sure and post them....

-LauraZ@Banyan.com
 Banyan Systems
 (508) 836-1825
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