HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Subject: Re: What about China done to Korea?
    <1992Aug20.193824.1931@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:27:07 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:

>I guess you really got lost! I have stated my point in my previous posts that  
>it is useless to ask for apology.

Maybe, if there is already one.

> If Chinese people are so eager for apology  
>from Japan, it is natural for Chinese government to apologize to the Korean and  
No, the logic is wrong here again. I think that letter is not from the Chinese
government, and I guess it is from some people not only in mainland (maybe
from Hong Kong).

The sentence should be read: > If Chinese people are so eager for apology  
>from Japan, it is natural for the Korean and  Vietnamese people to ask....

>Carl
From: s9263@gte.com (Rajesh Kumar Sah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:35:19 GMT
Reply-To: s9263@bunny.GTE.COM
Distribution: ne
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA

just a test; please ignore
From: tc2u+@andrew.cmu.edu (Tieju Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Japs don't say SORRY to China?
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:20:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.IeWkd6i00io7Q9nlhj
Organization: Masters student, Information Networking Institute, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I agree with you 100%. We should only talk about the issue, not any bigotry things. let us use Janpanese instead of Japs. By the way, I just borrowed someone
elses' heading.

-tie ju
From: lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in China - more Info
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:19:33 GMT

Xingdong Ma wrote:
>Should his name be "Li4 Yi1 Ji1"? I don't remember very clearly
>but I'm quite sure it not " Shi2 Qi2 ".

I think you are right.

>So Wen2 Gong1 was very regretful, and so, there comes the "Han2 Shi2 Jie2".
<Is is lunar calender "zheng1 yue4 chu1 wu3" or some other time? )

I doubt it has ever been well-defined. It should be early April (solar
calender). Sometime in some place it may last two or three days. Once
it even went wild as long as one month, so Dr. Cao Cao had to issue a
4-11 executive order to restrict it to one day in order to protect the
health of people. After Tang, it basically became Picnic days for GaoGan's
kids. Maybe netters from SanXi ans SaanXi can tell us more about present
custom.
From: zheng@brahms.udel.edu (Xian-Feng Zheng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: [Info] Visa Application in China/Irregularities with Chinese Airlines
Date: 23 Aug 92 01:43:45 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <BtD9sw.3yE@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong) writes:
>The following is carried in August 22's CND-US:
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>4. Letters from Readers: Irregularities with Chinese Airlines;
>                         Visa Application in China ..................... 125
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
Use JAL (Japan Airline). It provides smart service and low price. It's worth
to stay at Tokyo for one night. Don't deal with Air China, though it is non-stop flight. By the way, JAL has offices in Bejing and Shang. If you have any
problem, like changing the reservation of your return trip, just call them in
Chinese, English or Japanese. I changed my schedules three times when I was
in China this August. Everytime, only one simple call set everything, and it
didn't cost me a penny more for that.

Take my advice.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiong@fzi.de (Xiong Xun)
Subject: Re: Golden age of China?
Reply-To: xiong@fzi.de
Organization: Forschungszentrum Informatik (FZI), Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:42:50 GMT


|> 
|> Ha, what do the Brits know about China?? I'd say the period between 1800
|> and 1949 was the WORST in Chinese history.. Sure the Communists are not good
|> but at least they kept the foreigners out
|                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You'd better to say "driven the foreign forces or aggressors or invaders out"
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: Golden age of China?
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:18:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.234802.859@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> cqu@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Chang-ning Qu) writes:
>
>    Golden age for old people probably is hundreds or thousand years ago,
>for young generation should today and tomorrow. Aged people like to recall
>past, youngster prefer dreaming future.
>
>cqu

Would like to say that the Golden age in China is from now to the
future?

Tingli Pan
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From: hwang@hermes.Berkeley.EDU (Kailan Hwang)
Subject: Re: Immigration: Whether Aliens Share the Rights of U.S. Citizens?
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 07:54:13 GMT

In article <Bt77B3.9ou@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong) writes:
=
=--------------------------- Forwarding Begins ----------------------------
=Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 01:17:18 -0400
=From: XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
=Subject: Alien Right (For your reference)
=
=              DOCUMENT=        1
=HL           Law -- Legal Beat:
=             Trial May Turn on Whether Aliens
=             Share the Rights of U.S. Citizens
=             ----
=             By Joe Davidson
=             Staff Reporter of The Wall Street Journal
=----------------------------- Forwarding Ends ------------------------------
=
=Forwarded by Bo Xiong in Chicago


It is an interesting article, but I really do not know there
has anything to do with taiwan news group. People seems to
be getting some kind of cross posting habit by putting
articles to unrelated newsgroup which just like people
asking MAC question on PC newsgroups.



-- 
| Above is my own opinion and I do not mind if Berkeley agrees with me. :-) |
| E-Mail Addr.: hwang@postgres.berkeley.edu                                 | 
| Real world: Kailan Hwang                              % flame > /dev/null |
| "The job of a citizen is to keep his mouth open."    --- Gunter Grass     |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: aa727@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Johnny Wu)
Subject: Romancing of the Three Kingdoms, I need help!
Reply-To: aa727@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Johnny Wu)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 22:45:47 GMT


I need some help from fellow helpers like you! :)

If you have a copy of this movie, please let me know.

Recently a friend told me that in CA the International Channel aired
a 23 episode of the movie Romancing of the Three Kingdoms (Sun Kuo2
Yien Yi).  I neede the series to show and educate some American friends
here in Cleveland, Ohio. We are planning to re-create the events here,
and needed some 'video' help.

If you or anyone you know have recorded the show/series, please 
let me know. :) I thank you in advance.

-- 
No one is a failure... Keep up your dream and you will find it!
Ask always WISDOM from God!

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:23194 soc.culture.hongkong:9867 soc.culture.japan:6815 soc.culture.taiwan:12005
From: hironobu@sra.co.jp (Hironobu Suzuki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:00:58 GMT
	<FELIX.92Aug16112918@crowfix.com>
	<1992Aug16.211822.5261@leland.Stanford.EDU>
	<1992Aug17.180142.29074@clarify.com>
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan
In-reply-to: rchoy@clarify.com's message of 17 Aug 92 18:01:42 GMT


In article <1992Aug17.180142.29074@clarify.com> rchoy@clarify.com (Raymond Choy) writes:
 |Recalling my Chinese history class, China has never been succeeded in 
 |invading Japan. There were several attempt to do so though but most 
 |often they were stopped by typhoons during their way. 

You're right.

 |Furthermore,
 |China has never been strong in their navy at all. 

Mongolian navy was very strong. They used some new weapon that
Japanese army did not have.  But typhoon(s) came, and they had to stop
invading. It was miracle victories for Japan.  Japanese called that
typhoon(s) as "KAMIKAZE(God wind)". About 700 years later, Japanese
often used the word "KAMIKAZE" at the end of WWII.

This is a origin of a word "KAMIKAZE".

					Love & Peace !!
					--hironobu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: OLYMPICS RESULT
Keywords: wishful thoughts..
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 05:09:29 GMT


Just for your reference.


>FINAL OLYMPIC RESULT
>                              Gold Silver Bronze Tot.
>Unified Team                  45   38      29    112
>United States                 37   34      37    108
>Germany                       33   21      28     82
>China                         16   22      16     54
>KOREA, UNIFIED                16    5      17     38 **
>Cuba                          14    6      11     31
>Spain                         13    7       2     22
>South Korea                   12    5      12     29 *
>Hungary                       11   12       7     30
>France                         8    5      16     29
>Australia                      7    9      11     27
>Italy                          6    5       8     19
>Canada                         6    5       7     18
>Britain                        5    3      12     19
>Romania                        4    6       8     18
>Czechoslovakia                 4    2       1      7
>North Korea                    4    0       5      9 *
>Japan                          3    8      11     22
>Bulgaria                       3    7       6     16
>Poland                         3    6      10     19
>Holland                        2    6       7     15


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha)
Subject: Re: Golden age of China?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 20:23:24 GMT

In article <92Aug14.173224edt.113@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> 
liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu) writes:

>1.  We still cannot prove Marco Polo really reached China.  Whatever
>    he wrote could be just some 3rd hand gossip.

	I have never heard anyone doubt that Marco Polo reached and lived
in China. Why do you doubt it and what would constitute "proof"? Polo's 
descriptions are uncannily accurate, although uniformly exaggerated 
(if that is not a contradiction).
From: lix@BUCRSB.BU.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Cannibalism in China - more info
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:12:35 GMT

Mats Winberg wrote:
>     I've read the comments on my original post, and as I expected
      most seemed to deny that there had occurred cannibalism in any
      greater scale. One poster found a "provocative tone" in my post,
      and he was right.

Yes, Mr. Wu is right. I felt your provocative tone but failed to point out
in a clear way -- I thought it was very clear already:-(

>     The reason for that tone is not that I'm hostile
      to the chinese culture, but rather a bit irritated on the "Where
      is Norway" and "Oriental moral" threads. 

I don't think a few netters' words on something like "No Way" can naturally
grant your offensive postion to Chinese culture and Chinese people.

>     Furthermore, I was
      shocked to read these stories and couldn't resist that last
      remark. If I offended anyone, I apologize.

No problem, it may not be your faulty at all. It seems Chinese-bashing is
more fashionable in Norway than in the US :-(

BTW, do you really believe the story of Mr. Zheng Yi and the confirmation
of Mr. Chen Maiping? Just curious. If you believe, that is all right. If
you have some doubt, maybe we can discuss further, especially some netters
from GuangXi may join the discussion.
From: hl2a@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Haiyan  Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Protection bill
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:35:53 GMT
Distribution: usa,soc
Organization: University of Virginia

>>  I guess it would be safe if it is predetermined that one can return to the
>>US (using a student visa or a greencard), and it would not be safe (hence
>>needs protection) if Mr.Zhu goes to China and stays.  That's the whole point
>>for this "protection bill", isn't it?
>
>	Nope, it is just your guess, not the point for that "protection"
>bill.  Why would it have this (arbitrary) 90 day restriction otherwisely?  
>
>	The whole point of the bill is that CSS will face prosecution once
>they dare to step on the land of their own country.  That is what the
>authors and other Congress people said on Capital Hill and also what the
>CSS "representatives" said there and here too.
>
>	Why the bill did forgive some "brief, innocent" trip to China is
>however beyond me.  What is the big deal with the number 90 anyway?

Why is it the date April 11,1990 such an important date?  What about the 
people who came later and those who are going to come ? Has this Bill issue
made the visa more difficult?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jpxu1@fnala.fnal.gov
Subject: GRE test in computer scince.
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:43:14 GMT


I'm going to take a GRE subject exam in computer scince.  Can someone give
some tips?  Like naming some good books for this test.  Thanks a lot.
BTW, I'm a non-computer student and a non-American.  That makes it a little
bit more difficult.
Email please.


--jpx
jpxu1@fnal.fnal.gov
From: lpzhou@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: testing
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:45:54 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

This is a testing file
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hchen@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (H. Chen)
Subject: Forward Question about Hongkong Employment 
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:27:59 GMT

Hi, There,
 
I am forwarding the following message to this newsgroup.  Please directly 
reply to the original sender, "zsun@alexia.list.uiuc.edu", if possible.  
Thank you in advance.
 
Huijie
======
 
From:	PO1::"zsun@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu"
 
Hi everybody!  I applied for a job in Hong Kong (the Univ. of Science and
Technology).  Can anyone provide me some information regarding the following
questions?
 
1) Is it difficult to obtain HK employment visa?  How long will it take?
 
2) Is it difficult to obtain visas for family members?  Can they get work
   permission when in HK?
 
3) How to become or apply for the HK PR?
 
4) How and where to extend passport in HK?
 
Thank you in advance for sharing your information and knowledge with me!
 
Zehua Sun
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203)
Subject: Re: What about China done to Korea?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:56:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.202835.5127@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> yeb@egr.msu.edu () writes:
>In article <1992Aug21.193108.12903@colorado.edu> xuehua@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Xuehua Lu) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug21.141707.28412@ms.uky.edu> gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li) writes:
>>
>>As a korean, I feel we should thank China for giving us independence.
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>-- 
>>xuehua@cs.colorado.edu
>>Lu, Joshwar
>
>What? Being a Korean you got name as 'Lu xuehua'? You must also have
>a mainland Chinese father.:-)

What is going on here?! Some days ago there was a fake German 
against Ingar Holst, and now a fake Korean! Am I right?? Crazy...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.taiwan
From: andrew@medici.trl.OZ.AU (Andrew Jennings)
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:25:59 GMT


I don't think we should harp on the past so much. Many people suffered, acts of
which many are ashamed were committed. But continually dwelling on the past does
not help us build a future.

Some more difficult questions:

1. Japan (despite current difficulties) has ammassed a large proportion of the
   world's wealth. But it is still very passive in international affairs. Is it
   going to stand back or contribute to world society?

2. This wealth has not created better conditions for the Japanese people. What
   changes are needed in japanese society to ensure that this happens?

3. How can we overcome the relative isolation of Japanese society from the rest
   of the world?

We should be positive, and constructive.


a.jennings@trl.oz.au               phone  : 61 3 253 6241 fax : 61 3 253 6173
Andrew Jennings   AI Systems       Telecom Australia Research Laboratory
From: stacc0@quantum.fiu.edu (Ye)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Lou4 Shi4 Ming2 ( Tang2 . Liu2 Yu3 Xi1 )
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:18:51 GMT
Organization: Florida International University, Miami


In article <1992Aug20.202321.1@sara.cc.utu.fi> shanwang@sara.cc.utu.fi writes:
 
&&>>=========================================================
&&>> 
&&>>                      Lou4 Shi4 Ming2
&&>>  
&&>>                       Tang2 .  Liu2 Yu3 Xi1
&&>> 
&&>>    Shan1 bu4* zai4 gao1, you3 xian1 ze2 ming2;

        Chou2 bu4 zai4 feng1, you3 ka3 ze2 xing2.
         (matters not the salary, but the card)
        Si1 shi2 lou3 zhi2, wei2 wu3 de2 xin1...
         (although a humble position, envied by many).

Anyone else wants to 'attach a dog's tail to a mink'? 8-)
By the way, I remember it's 'Chu1 ru4 wu2 bo2 ding1', anyone can confirm?
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From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan
Date: 15 Aug 92 01:46:49 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor) writes:

>Dear friends:

>As you may know from the news media, Emperor Akihito is
>planning a visit to China later this year.  Historically, this will
>be the first visit of a Japanese Emperor to China.  Incidentally,
>this year marks the 20th anniversary of the establishment of
>diplomatic relation between the two countries.  Thus Akihito's visit
>no doubt will be one of the most significant events in the history
>of Sino-Japanese relation.

>It is time to let our voice be heard, otherwise our silence will
>be interpreted as consent to Japan's irresponsible attitude
>toward the crime she did to our country during the Sino-Japanese War.
>In order to urge Emperor Akihito to "take positive actions to put the
>Sino-Japanese relationship in the proper context," we have drafted 
>an open letter to the Emperor, which we have enclosed a copy for your
>perusal.

Don't you think it's about time that Japanese nationals begin to
speak for themselves?  One would think that 50 years of
"exhortations to repentence" is enough. If they continue to remain
silent, then people elsewhere can simply draw their own conclusions
as to what this might mean. 

THIS IS NOT A FLAME (Tm) I am neither defending or accusing anybody
over what did or did not occur. I am saying that IMHO it's time
enter into a dialog with or do something that might have a more
definite outcome :-)

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087



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From: lixj@sol.rutgers.edu (Xiao-jian Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: An open letter to the Emperor Akihito of Japan
Date: 17 Aug 92 02:13:04 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

[garbage deleted]

You simply get it wrong. It is not the goverment who askes for the Japaness
apology. It is us people, whose grandparents, parents, brothers and
sisters been slaughterd, raped, tortured by the barbarious Japaness
soldiers, who deserve an apology from the Japaness. And I believe we
will get it sooner or later no matter what.
From: yong@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: China and Japan in GNPs
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:47:58 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

According to the China Quarterly (1990), the comparision of the GNPs 
between China and Japan are as follows.

1. in 1960, GNP of China = GNP of Japan 

2. in 1980, GNP of China = 1/4 GNP of Japan

3. in 1984, GNP of China = 1/5 GNP of Japan

4. in 1986(?), the GNP per capita of China was US$300 and the GNP per
capita of Japan was over US$20,000, whereas the GNP per capita of Taiwan
was over US$5,000.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: muyu@tan.Princeton.EDU (Muyu Guo)
Subject: Re: Could more light topics in China?
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:05:52 GMT

From article <78153@ut-emx.uucp>, by joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang):
> In article <1992Aug21.013542.2216@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> cqu@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Chang-ning Qu) writes:
>>      Should we have more interesting, happy, light and new
>>topics instead of those of tragic, dark, sorrowed on China.
> 
> Speaking of which.....
> 
> Does anyone know of any happy, funny Chinese short stories which are
> comedies without any deep social message? 

Heard this when I went back China (may not be a happy one though):

The national weather forecast center has its predication only 40%
agreed with reality, while an old peasant has HIS predication 60%
agreed with reality.  Being asked how this is so, the old peasant
answered, 'it's very easy, whatever the official forecast says, I
just say exactly the opposite.'

-- 
--
Muyu Guo
From: peter_chen@cbis.ece.drexel.edu (Peter Ming Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: air force and Taiwan
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:51:10 GMT
Organization: Drexel University

In article <713631345.26008@minster.york.ac.uk>, yong@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
> 
> According to recent news appeared in British news papers, the USA, France
> and Israel are interested in selling F16, Mirage 2000-5, Kfir (Israel's
> copy of Mirage) to Taiwan air force, which are believed in closing
> stages. It said that the three met strong oppositions from China. The
> final results from them are yet to be seen.
> 
> 
One of reason is that China has bought advanced Su-27 Heave-Weight Flighters 
from Russia. Su-27 is form Soviet-Union's high performance long distance multi-
function flighter. It is the same level as U.S's F-15 or F-14. Proberbly China will also analysis Su-27 and produce their 
own version of Su-27(F-?). This will improve Chinese Air Force a lot. I think
this fact upsets TaiWan.
  

 
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