HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: s907459@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Ka Wo Anthony Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Your university making $$$ out of you?
Date: 17 Nov 1992 02:06:16 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au
Keywords: $$$, brand-name, wholesome policies, yeck, etc.

eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui) writes:
...Stuff deleted...

>Besides, textbook here are terribly EXPENSIVE if you compare the price
>in HK. It may cost you more than double for the same edition.

I don't think so. Prices of books in HK can match the prices in Oz.
The majority of text books cost around Aust $45 to $65.  In terms of HK$
they are around $200 somthing to $300 somthing.  Most of the text books
in HK can cost HK$250 upwards.  

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: u1040448@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (C Ma)
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday in English
Organization: Faculty of Architecture, UNSW, Australia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:53:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.103501.9217@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> leekfe@eecg.toronto.edu (Kim Fung Edward Lee) writes:
>Gung1 Dzuk1 Nei3 Gam1  Yat6  Ham2 Tsan1 Go3 Tau4 (hurt your head)
>Hing3 Ho6   Nei3 Bang1 Maai4 Go3  Bei6 (break your nose too)  
>Nin4  Nin4  Dou1 Yiu3  Hat1  Sik6  (beg)
>Sui3  Sui3  Dou1 Fan3  Gaai1 Bin1  (sleep on the street)
>Gung1 Hei2  Nei3 
>Gung1 Hei2  Nei3!!!!
>:-)
>.....sorry if I sounded rude.... just can't help it... :-)
>

 And I can't help laughing ...... :)

Chibi


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: ILHC: Love Clinic (WLS RESPONSE) 11/16/92
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 19:18:38 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Nov17.203222.22721@oracle.us.oracle.com> glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>
>to express your love early to liberal girls.  For conservative
>girls (I assume a lot of HK girls are relatively conservative),
>it would scare the girl away.  I suggest first being friends with
>the girl, but don't make it clear that you would only be friends
>with her as this will make her assume that you would only be her
>friend.  Keep hang around with her for a while and slowly slowly
>slowly express a bit and a bit of your love towards her.  Don't
>just ask her out and tell her that you want to marry her or
>something when you guys are just ordinary friends.  That's a very
>childish way.

That is the supreme beauty of ambiguity, I love it.

BUT

Have you hang around with the girls in HK lately?  I think most of them have 
adopted this strategy 3 years ago.  When you go after her, she'd just hang on
and being deliberately ambiguous towards you, so you'd never know whatever you
hit something or something hits you.  Ha ha!

Someone may argue that todays' girl is more open and liberal, so she could
just hang out with you without crossing the line of friendship.  But some guys
do argue that these girls just wanna make the most out of you.  You make the
call.

- Louis

P.S.  Just a reference:  Most boys are more crazy at the beginning while the
      girls are more analytical and calm.  But once they fall in love, the
      situation reverse.  (This is from a book on psychology of love)





Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: whleung@bcarh466.bnr.ca (Wai-Hung Leung)
Subject: Re: re Gaels is N re: Gaels is No. 1
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 17:52:43 GMT

In article <lgvpl7INN9r6@victoria.cs.utexas.edu> s662@cs.utexas.edu (Spring Class Account) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov22.180610.582@bmerh85.bnr.ca> whleung@bcarh466.bnr.ca (Wai-Hu
>ng Leung) writes:
>>
>>Well, since other people have posted news on US college football,
>>UCAA results, etc.  Perhaps I should post BNR volleyball league
>>results here as well.  Heck, it is just as irrelevant to schk anyway.
>
>So take out all those sports, fourier series, moving to Hawaii, looking for
>textbook, car runing on Germany highway, some China/Taiwan's magazine table
>of contents, etc, etc, from SCHK. Is that what you mean?!!?

Please read my reply again.  The important word above is "irrelevant".
For example, I would post the following in schk but not *any* NT new
product announcements or any new development on the CT2 standard.

--> 1. NORTHERN TELECOM INTRODUCES "COMPANION,"
-->    A NEW WIRELESS COMMUNICATIONS SYSTEM
--> 
--> HONG KONG--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Northern Telecom, a leading global
--> telecommunications manufacturer and researcher, today introduced the
--> Companion wireless communications system, demonstrating its global
--> commitment to the emerging personal communications services (PCS)
--> marketplace. This is the first phase of a worldwide product roll-out,
--> which in 1993 will include other locations in the Pacific Rim, as well
--> as the United States, Canada, Europe, the Caribbean and Latin America.
--> In its Hong Kong introduction, the Companion system is the first
--> fully-featured wireless business system available which uses the
--> widely accepted CT2 Common Air Interface (CT2 CAI) radio standard.
--> The Companion system uses portable, personal telephones that fit into
--> a pocket or purse -- freeing people to move about as they work. More than
--> $1 million in orders have been received in the Hong Kong area for
--> Companion systems and more than 200 Companion systems are undergoing
--> trials in Europe, Asia, the U.S. and Canada.
--> Business Wire    (11/20/92)    NewsNet
--> MIN 92209

>BTW, skip those messages you arent interested in.  And I dont care if you
>junk my messge.  Feel free to do so and enjoy the world of freedom......

Yeah right, why do we bother with the concept of newsgroup in the
first place, I wonder.

-- 
==============================================================================
Wai Hung Leung (~{A:N0:i~})      |  Internet: whleung@bnr.ca
Bell-Northern Research Ltd.  |  -> <- This space intentionally left blank.
==============================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: jfl@omaha.eel.ufl.edu (Yu-Fung Liu)
Subject: Re: Happy Birthday to Dr. Sun
Reply-To: edo@ugrad.ee.ufl.edu
Organization: UF EE Department (Graduate Student)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:38:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.182039.9191@mtu.edu>, qye@next6 (QIAN YE) writes:
|> In article <2815@tymix.Tymnet.COM> mikemo@opus.Tymnet.COM (Mike Mo)  
|> writes:
|> > In article <1992Nov12.015100.1421@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk>  
|> b073766@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Great Era) writes:
|> > >Today is Dr. Sun 126th birthday.
|> > >Happy birthday to Dr. Sun.
|> > >Great Era.
|> > Happy Birthday, Dr. Sun   
|> > If you live 20 years longer, China will not be today's China.
|> > Mike
|> If Mike borned 100 years ago, China will not be today's China.
|> If Mike didn't borned, China will not be today's China.
|> Do you think any these word have any sence.

What a joke? If Dr.Sun live 1 more year, China would never have civil war.
From: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: What do you think of Chris Patten
Date: 24 Nov 92 05:50:55 GMT
Reply-To: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1992Nov22.070513.19458@cucs5.cs.cuhk.hk> cmhui@cucs18.cs.cuhk.hk (Hui Chau Man) writes:

>b073766@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk (Great Era) writes:

>You get my point. Hong Kong people need to fight for democracy from
>CHINA, not rely on Patten. If Britain really want to bring democracy
>system to Hong Kong, why don't she let us vote for our own governor, and
>our own government in 1995? 

You don't understand, HK is part of the commonwealth.  Now every
country in the commonwealth has a governor who represents the
queen.  Now governors are appointed, you don't vote for
governors.  This is what is called consistutional monarchy.  The
governor don't have real power.  
--
Anthony Lee (Time Lord Doctor) (These are my opinions !)
email: anthony@cs.uq.oz.au	voice:+(61)-7-3651204 FAX:+(61)-7-3651999
SNAIL: Department Computer Science, The University of Queensland, 
       St Lucia, Qld 4072, Australia
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>soc.culture.hongkong / ctyau@cucs11.cs.cuhk.hk (YAU Chor-tung) /  3:10 am  Nov 18, 1992 /
>yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (Daniel Yuen) writes:

>>I'd like to be able to read big5 files on PC (or to convert big5 to GB files
>>-- I have got software to read GB files on PC).  Can anyone suggest me an
>>FTP site please?  Thanks in advance.

>>---- Daniel Yuen
>>     (yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au)

>Do you know there is a Chinese version of MS-Window on PC?  It can read
>big5 codes.  It is common here and I don't know if it is available in
>countries dominated by non-Chinese.

Yes, I think a lot of people know it. But GB code reader is freeware and
freely available in many ftp site. I think most netter from mainland
have it. Personally, I have a freeware Chinese WS for GB only. Except writting
letter home (But hand writting is still faster), I can't find any other usage.
 
>Yau Chor Tung.
>----------

Yuk
From: alee@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Alexander Lee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Support for more democracy in Hong Kong
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:37:16 GMT
Organization: Boeing

Since I did not have opportunity to meet a SINGLE democracy-minded person
in HK during my short stay in HK, I would like to raise a question for
any "Democracy-minded" HKer here:

If your burning desire for democracy in HK is for real, ie the kind of
democracy of US model which is only one I know SO FAR, why don't you
start the process by pushing for HK's governor election first?

If you only advocate to change only the cosmetics (Lego), but not the
substance (Governor), then please don't blame others who do not take
your claims seriously.

If, for any reason, you prefer to have British appointed governor to
Chinese appointed governor, then I rest my case.
From: stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: HK public media: KCR commercial
Date: 18 Nov 1992 04:15:32 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.unl.edu


  I guess after all these days, KCR commercial stories (I guess there
are many versions about this KCR commercial) start fading out.
Of course, some peole really believe it and some just could help but
laughing at it and some others are still wondering what happened. Now
matter what, I really want to know what role HK public medias play in
this whole event.

  I guess most of us in the U.S never pay attention to those super
market newspapers (weekly news maybe? I don't even remember one name)
and of course the credibility of these newspapers is questionable, and
I doubt if there is anyone who believes those make-up stories in those
newspapers. However, in HK, most of the city legends come from Radio
and magazines and newspapers, but still some people do believe that.

  Do those people working in public media and helping baseless rumors
spread have any jouralist decency? And do most of people in HK care
about this? One other question, what do HK public medias see their
audiences? A bunch of tastless fools?

  steve
--
stevew@helios.unl.edu  |=| \ Fender / |=| ... smoke on the water, fire in
                       |=|   \    /   |=| the sky...   Smoke on the water.
stevew@hoss.unl.edu    |=|     \/     |=|     (36 bars guitar solo)
		      Deep purple, the best
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Frandanla)
Subject: Cantonese Song
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:30:21 GMT

Hello, fellow netters:

A while ago someone was talking about recording songs to files.  I tried
that out and surely it take TONS of spaces.

I have a song sang by hakee Lee, like a min or so, with mono sound, and
sampling at 11 Hz, and the files is around 600k - 700k (can't remember),
and when it's compressed (used lharc.exe) it's like 640k, when uuencoded,
it's like 890k.  BTW, it's a voc file, if anybody is interested, just
drop a mail to me.

I also have another song recorded (sung by Leon Lai),  this one the
quality is better, taped for stereo sound with 22Hz sampling rate.  But
the file is HUGE, like 2 meg voc file, compressed to 1.87 meg (wiht
lharc.exe) and sized 2.5 meg after uuencoded, but the quality is better,
however, it's only like 40 sec, i think. (It's hard to time it when you
are enjoying the music)  Also, it's a voc file, if anybody is interested,
send me a mail, please tell me which one/ones do you want, and please make
sure you have enough room to hold the file/files, and make sure you have
play the .voc (or convert them to .wav, etc).  I'm not being picky, it
just i don't want to waste school's money.  Please forgive me if you are
offended.

Lastly, I'll be taking thanksgiving break starting next thrusday, and i'll
delete files before Christmas break.  (Can't afford to hold the files for
that long)

Fran
From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: One Joke A Day, No More Girls Say No Way
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:52:08 GMT
Organization: Cheung's Funky Shop, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: strider.hw.stratus.com

The secretary general of the UN decided to have a report-writing
contest for the various ambassadors.  The subject was to be arbitrary, 
and the titles of the report should reflect something of the character 
of the representative nation.

The Secretary General decided on the topic: elephants.  A coupls
of days later, he received the various reports.  The titles were
as follows:

England:  "Elephants and their effect on the British Empire."

USA:  "How to build the biggest, bestest, fastest and most
       expensive elephant!"
       
Canada:  "Elephants: a federal or provincial matter?"
       
China:  "Elephant: A Socialist with Chinese Characteristics"

France:  "Elephants -- a love story."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: Vivian Chow
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:20:40 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <1992Nov19.202043.1474@oracle.us.oracle.com> glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo) writes:
>
>She is a singer who doesn't sing well.
>She is also an actor who doesn't act well.
>She used to be a DJ in RTHK.
>

Fellows, don't trust him!  He's the guy who said very harsh remarks on VC
a few articles ago!!!!!  :-)

In reality, what George said is 80% right.  VC is currently being suspected
as someone who got "taken care of" by a few $$aire.  So she is a xxxxx if
you'd consider xxxxx as a profession.  (It is, isn't it?)


- Louis


From: yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:09:37 GMT
Subject: Re: The whole story about the commercial by KCR
Organization: Hewlett-Packard SSG/CCSY-PWD, UK.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong

>soc.culture.hongkong / cs225b86@dcl-nxt20.cso.uiuc.edu (cs225 student) /  7:18 pm  Nov 16, 1992 /
> 
> It is not surprising that a lot of us do not know what KCR is.  I for  
one,
> did not konw.  That was because I left Hong Kong about 17 years ago.  

>But KCR has been there for about 100 years.

Non, 82 years ONLY, It completed in 1911.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mok@pa.dec.com (Charles Mok)
Subject: Re: Support for more democracy in Hong Kong
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:35:43 GMT

In article <BxyFtG.34p@world.std.com>, afung@world.std.com (Albert K Fung) writes:
> 2. Tell China that with Clinton in power, termination of MFN is pretty
>    much a fait accompli. In a few years, when the European finally get

Hardly so.  Conventional wisdom now is that he will propose a conditional MFN with mild conditions that China will protest then easily comply.  

>    their acts together, the EC market is going to be closed to them. With

Huh?  Europe has hardly been tough toward China ever since 1989.  Why now?

>    NAFTA, she's at risk of being shut out of the N. American market also. 
>    She should come to her senses and leave HK alone if but for strategic
>    reasons.

This depends on 1. NAFTA getting through Congress, 2. it makes a difference.  Both are big if's.

Good to be arguing with you again, Al :)

Charles
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: afung@world.std.com (Albert K Fung)
Subject: Re: Traditional Chinese Values
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 03:50:56 GMT

Sorry that this is not answer to your questions, but your posting reminded
me of two rather unpleasant incidents that I experienced ....

1. A very close woman friend (Chinese) of mine chose to marry a black man.
   Her family effectively disowned her. Her friends talked behind her back.
   When she brought her husband back to HK and China, people treated them
   as if they had communicable diseases. 

2. I once had to tell my parents that I needed some privacy. Suddenly, I
   realized that there was no way to translate it into Chinese. The concept
   of "privacy" is alien to Chinese culture!

I think our culture is in dire need of "modernization" ....

Regards,

Al Fung
SoftFab International Ltd., One Kendall Square, Suite 2200, Cambridge, MA 02139
Email: afung@SoftFab.COM        Voice: (617) 621-7014       Fax: (617) 577-1209
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From: wskan@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Fran Kan)
Subject: Re: Reincarnation in Chinese culture
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:45:24 GMT

In article <By0w20.Kuy@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> shafung@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (Alan Fung) writes:
>The idea of worshipping your anchestors or grandpa is stupid,
>since you never know whether your anchestors have reincarnated (actually I don't
>believe in it at all, cuz' then, why the population is growing) or not.
>
>Cheers,
>Alan

Personally, i think worshipping ancestors or grandpa is a way to showing
respect to your ancestors.  I agree sometime it's quite stupid cuz one
might not even meet his ancestors, for example, i never met my grandma
because she did not live in HK.  Buy for every year(until i come to US), i
would still worship my grandpa and grandma.  Actually, i think the word
"worship" is kinda impropiate cuz we AREN'T really worshiping (think of
them as a god, etc), but i can't think of another word now (maybe somebody
can help me).

Fran
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: glo@dvlseq.us.oracle.com (George Lo)
Subject: Re: Vivian Chow
Organization: Oracle World HQ, Redwood Shores, California
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:20:43 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <1992Nov17.182329.29138@newstand.syr.edu> alvin@top.cis.syr.edu (Alvin Leung) writes:
>Who is she?  I have been away from HK and locked-up in my computer lab. for
>too long.  I saw her picture and want to know more about her.  Is she a singer
>or a actor.
>
She is a singer who doesn't sing well.
She is also an actor who doesn't act well.
She used to be a DJ in RTHK.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: ???
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 06:47:11 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor


This is a testing message from FIGHT FOR DEMOCRACY UNDERGROUND LIBERAL
FRONTS.  Please ignore.  (Note that the header info. has been tempered with,
so my dear communies, don't bother talking a flight to Ann Arbor!)

*****

Since you're still reading this, you maay want to pat extra attention to the
forthcoming freebie advertistment about our on-campus recuriting program.

(later!)
From: K.J.Lee1@lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: What do you think of Chris Patten
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:17:31 GMT
Reply-To: K.J.Lee1@lut.ac.uk (Magic Smurf)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.


All I know about Chris Patten is that he is currently earnig a lot of money
and he can afford to retire after 1997 and not giving a damn of what will
happen to HK! (Perhaps he will share a bit of his earning with John Major, since
he is not doing too well at the moment!!)

Perhaps that's why the people in Bath voted him out? I wonder? Shame if he does
make any messes, we cannot get rid of him like the people in Bath did. Oh, well,
I have spoken....... what do you people think then??

-- 
  Magic Smurf,        | Phone No. | Internet 1: K.J.Lee1@Loughborough.ac.uk 
  2 Mushroom Street,  | (44)-     | Internet 2: cb241@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu     
  Smurf Villiage,     | 0509-     | Internet 3: KJLee@Heartland.Bradley.Edu  
  Smurfland.          | 233472    | Janet     : K.J.Lee1@Uk.ac.Loughborough                            
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From: 91066702@cphkvx.cphk.hk
Subject: Chart 11-22 (Chinese)
Organization: OSU Physics Dept.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:18:15 GMT

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