Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sas-l
Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:08:00 GMT
Reply-To:     Lee Herman <0003724796@MCIMAIL.COM>
From:         Lee Herman <0003724796@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: sas-l to MCI-mail?
Comments: To: "SAS-L@TCSVM.BITNET" <SAS-L@tcsvm.bitnet>

>> I now have two subscriptions to SAS-L.  One to my compuserve account, one to
>> my MCI Mail account.  I only get SAS-L mail at my compuserve--the MCI Mail
>> does not receive any SAS-L mail.  I only say I have an MCI SAS-L
>> subscription because I did get the normal acknowledgement from the listserv.
>> Can anyone explain this to me?  (I do have successful, active listserv
>> based subscriptions to other internet discusions on the MCI account.)
>>

>Yes, I think I can.

>MCI, when it implemented its Internet->MCI mail gateway decided that it was
>critical for its users that each recepient receive the mail at the same time.
>They felt that this is what their users wanted - I suspect it has to do with
>letting people know about RFP's etc.  In any case this lead to the decision
>that if a single piece of mail came that was addressed to several folks and
>one or more of them could not have the mail delivered to them, e.g. they no
>longer had an account, then the mail would not be delivered to any of them and
>would be returned to the sender.

>In response to complaints, MCI has indicated that they will change this, but
>have not promised a date for it.  If this affects you, you should let the MCI
>Mail folks know about your desires and perhaps they will increase the priority
>of this project.

>-phil

>> Bill Kahn
>> W. L. Gore and Associates
>> 71020.1025@compuserve.com
>> wkahn@mcimail.com
>>
>> Distribution:
>>   >INTERNET:sas-l@ohstvma.bitnet
>--
>     J. Philip Miller, Professor, Division of Biostatistics, Box 8067
>         Washington University Medical School, St. Louis MO 63110
>     phil@wubios.WUstl.edu - Internet  (314) 362-3617 [362-2694(FAX)]
>
Phil,

While I'm not aware of the specifics of how the Internet Gateway is handling the
situation you describe, I don't believe it explains the specific situation Bill
is experiencing. I have experienced some breaks in receiving the SAS-L mail
which I couldn't explain but after dropping and re-activating my subscription it
has been fine. I haven't had any problems receiving SAS-L mail for several
months. My advice to Bill is to SIGN-OFF and then SUB SAS-L and see if this
cures the problem.

I reproduce below the note from LISTSERV management on proper destination for
LISTSERV commands as opposed to posting to SAS-L for clarity.

"  You may leave  the list at any  time by sending a "SIGNOFF  SAS-L" command to
LISTSERV@TCSVM.BITNET  (or LISTSERV@VM.TCS.TULANE.EDU).  Please note  that this
command must NOT be sent to the  list address (SAS-L@TCSVM) but to the LISTSERV
address (LISTSERV@TCSVM).

Virtually,
   The LISTSERV management"

Hope this helps even if I can't explain the cause of Bill's problem.

-Lee

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Lee Herman / MCI ID: 372-4796@mcimail.com
Software Performance Engineer
MCI Telecommunications
1190/107
2400 North Glenville Drive
Richardson, TX 75082
(214) 918-5862
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