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From: IFF291@DJUKFA11.BITNET (Stephan Petersen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.graphics
Subject: WANTED: color separation progs for SUNs
Date: 27 Jul 92 08:26:13 GMT
Organization: KFA  Forschungszentrum Juelich


Somebody without access to newsgroups asked me to look around for
recommendations on color separation programs for Sun workstations.

If you happen to know about any kind of product related to this field,
please drop me a line. Even if you can only supply the name of the
product and some address for further inquiries, that's fine.

Thanks for any hints,
Stephan


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: kirsii@jyu.fi (Kirsi Karhula)
Subject: WANTED: Sun 3/50 motherboard
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:50:45 GMT



WANTED: Sun 3/50 motherboard dead or alive
Reward: $ ?

______________________________________________________________________ 

SUN 3/50 or SUN 3/60 motherboard wanted. So if you have no use for
yours let me know. 
I'd also be interested in buying a monocrome display
or color display if no too expensive ) and some more memory.

______________________________________________________________________

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: lhn@iron.iss.nus.sg (Ngoh Lek Heng)
Subject: Sun Video Conferencing Experience
Reply-To: lhn@iss.nus.sg (Ngoh Lek Heng)
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:06:54 GMT


Hi, we are thinking of setting up an experimental Video Conferencing
environment on some Sun workstations. We'll appreciate it if any of you could
share with us some of your experience in this.

We are looking at using the video boards from Parallax Ltd. (with or without
JPEG) to achieve this, comments? suggestions?

Thank you in advance.

Regards,
Lek

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Room 3-26,                                         +65 456 0912
Institute of Systems Science,        Lek    Fax:   +65 778 2571
National University of Singapore,     :     Telex: ISSNUS RS 39988
Heng Mui Keng Terrace, Kent Ridge,   Lek    Internet: lhn@iss.nus.sg
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From: chrielli@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Chris Ellington)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted,misc.wanted
Subject: WANTED:  OLD Sun Workstation
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:24:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana

I am looking for a Sun 2/xx or 3/xx for a small price.  It does not need to
be fancy, just in working order.  Please send all bids to this address.
Thanks,

---
Chris Ellington
Ball State University
chrielli@bsu-cs.bsu.edu 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.wanted,ne.wanted
From: mikem@ll.mit.edu (Michael J Maciolek)
Subject: WANTED: used Sun3 or Sun4, scsi disk and tape subsystem
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 16:48:53 GMT


Repost, wider audience, looser price requirements.  Pointers welcome;
if you don't have any of this stuff yourself, but you can recommend a
computer junk dealer or some such, I'd still like to hear from you.

I'm interested in picking up a used Sun.  I hope there are some
commercially obsolete (or nearly so) systems out there (still nice
for home hacking) that folks would like to unload for a bit of cash.

Here's what I'm looking for, in order of preference:

Base units:
(CPU, case, power supply, monitor, keyboard, mouse & all cables)

3/60 C    4 meg		$1000 or less
3/60 M    4 meg		$ 900  "   "
3/80 C    4 meg		$1000  "   "
3/80 M    4 meg		$ 900  "   "
SLC  M   16 meg		$1600  "   "
SS1+ M/C  8 meg		$2100  "   "
SS1  M/C  8 meg		$1800  "   "
3/110C    8 meg,scsi	$ 800  "   "
3/140M    8 meg,scsi	$ 800  "   "
3/50 M    4 meg*	$ 600  "   "

*  If I go for a 3/50, I'd really prefer one that's been set up
   with one of those add-on memory kits that were sold by several
   vendors just a couple years ago, but I might settle for 4 Meg
   if all other systems are too high-priced.

[note: a "C" (color) system, from this list, could be either 16"
 or 19", I'd be happy with either.]


Disk/Tape subsystems:

141/60 shoebox		$ 600 or less
327/60 shoebox		$1000  "   "
210 meg 3.5" internal	$ 400  "   "
105 meg 3.5" internal	$ 200  "   "

All CPUs must include monitor & frame buffer - either mono or
color - in good condition, and a fully functional keyboard and
mouse (no disintegrating mouse pads).

Monitor in "good condition" means no major phosphor burns, good
image focus, bright enough to see in normal room lighting.

Companies/Corporations - great chance to unload that lone 3/xxx
that you've been using as a doorstop for the past year.  Or maybe
that old 141/60 shoebox that's just too damn slow to use on your
SPARC systems nowadays.

I'd like to inspect the merchandise before purchase, and I would
handle transportation myself...so it'd be nice if you're within a
50 mile radius of Boston, but I might go as far as 200 miles for
a really good deal...perhaps as far south as NYC, west to Albany NY,
north to Burlington VT.

Please drop me a line and tell me what you've got and what you're asking.

Thanks!

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From: ttknock@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Robert Armstrong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Wanted: Complete Sun 3/XX or 4/XX System
Summary: None
Keywords: sun wanted sparc
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:26:55 GMT
Followup-To: None
Organization: My Org


I'm looking for a complete Sun 3/XX or 4/XX system. Monitor, hard drive, and SunOS installed or on tape. Color or monochrome. Please send any info to ttknock@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: soam@freyja.cs.cornell.edu (Soam Acharya)
Subject: Using the VideoPix card
Keywords:  YUV RGB digital video, image conversion
Reply-To: soam@freyja.cs.cornell.edu (Soam Acharya)
Organization:  Everything Gives You Cancer Dept
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:01:36 GMT


Greetings all,

I am using the VideoPix card on an IPX to capture digitized video data
( in 4:1:1 YUV format ).  I am looking for pointers on how to convert
this to RGB ( the pbmplus utilities have a program to convert Abekas
YUV data to a pixmap but, insofar as I can tell, this is not the same
YUV format used by the VideoPix.  Additionally, I would rather not use
the libraries that come with the board both for the interests of portability
and curiosity - I want to know how it is done.

Many thanks

Soam


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: jennen@aball.in-berlin.de (Andreas Jennen)
Subject: Re: used sun
Summary: to buy
Organization: UUCP EDV-Beratung Andreas Jennen Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:18:02 GMT

In article <A374MMT@aball.in-berlin.de> jennen@aball.in-berlin.de (Andreas Jennen) writes:
>Hi,
>
>i want to bye a used sun.
>
of course i want to buy a used sun.

Sorry for my mistake !

>Who can help me ?


Gruss Andreas Jennen.
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From: dataram@tigger.jvnc.net (Dataram Corp. PO Box 7528)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Wanted: GIF to Sun Picture
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:33:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: tigger.1992Jul21.153306.9369
Organization: JvNCnet, Princeton University, NJ
Originator: dataram@tigger.jvnc.net

Is there a program what would take a PC GIF file and produce a SUN
backround file? FTP access would be great!
               Chuck
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From: hongman@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Guo Hongman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted,comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: need help on " ACME "
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:20:50 GMT
Followup-To: poster


     I got a program called " ACME " , discription is like following :

*****************************************************************************

The ACME Audio/Video Server and Client Library
.)b
.pp
ACME is a network server for digital audio I/O using the built-in
microphone and speaker on a Sun Sparcstation;
it also has limited support for video output.
ACME clients can play or record several "tracks" simultaneously,
and can specify how these tracks should be synchronized.
Several such applications can run at once, sharing the same devices;
ACME handles the mixing and copying of data.
All data and control are conveyed on TCP connections.

The ACME software is available by anonymous FTP from icsi-ftp.Berkeley.EDU,
in the file "pub/dash/acme.tar.Z".

******************************************************************************
   Does anyone know WHO has compiled " ACME " and made it work ?

    I have some troubles with it .

    I appreciate any information about it .

                Thanks in advance
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: george@wixer.cactus.org (George Wenzel)
Subject: Wanted: SunOS 4.1.1 manuals
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 13:00:18 GMT

The subject line says it all.

I bought a Sun3/60 with tapes, and just enough doccumentation to plug in the 
mouse.

So far I have been able to do everything I need to do to get things working,
but I think it would be really gnifty to have some manuals to prop up the 
corner of my desk... and who knows, I may actually find myself READING them.

By the way, I'll pay for them... name your price.

George
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: cgh018@tijc02.uucp (Calvin Hayden x2254)
Subject: SUMMARY - Fax on Sparc
Organization: Siemens Industrial Automation, Johnson City TN
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 14:31:52 GMT

A while back, I posted a question about experiences and/or recommendations
in regards to Fax software/modems on Sun Sparcs.  I got several replies - 
all of them asking for a net summary of what I got.  Well here it is... I 
got nothing.  I did dig through several rags and came up with several packages.
I called most of the vendors.  Those listed below are the ones that looked most
promising.  I concentrated on the ads that mentioned email access to the
package(s).

 Replix - Samsung Software America
  Many file formats (more than the others if the documentation I got on all
  was correct), email access, floating 2 user X GUI, unlimited command
  line users, includes Everex Fax modem, ability to route incoming faxes
  to files, users, printers, ability to send/receive (it looked like there
  were only certain formats it could send and others it could receive) - ~$2400
  1 800 899 7724

 PerfectFax - Perfect Byte, Inc.
  Several file formats (PS, Ascii, etc... - but not as many as Replix - they
  said support for TIFF was not there, but was forthcoming), unlimited email 
  access (but no command line interface - appeared to be focused around email),
  ability to send/receive, ability to route incoming faxes, includes Everex Fax
  modem - ~$2000
  1 800 359 0704

 TruFax - DevCom Mid-America, Inc.
  Several file formats (PS, HP Laserjet), email access, send/receive, ability
  to do routing to users, files, printers, other computers, other fax machines,
  did not appear to come with modem - ~$2500, modem $499 (Everex Fax)
  1 708 574 3600

There were at least 2 more that I haven't checked into yet, as the ads I found
did not mention email access.  These were XpressFax by GNP Computers at
818 577 4252, and FaxLink by Intuitive Technology at 800 342 4415.

All of the above seemed willing to do a demo with the appropriate forms.  I
have not talked indepth with them, other than some probing, and a fax copy of
their information.  One thing I have noticed is that the faxes I received
from them (that were sent with the software in question) were much crisper 
than the ones I normally see coming across our fax. 
 
If anyone has experience with any of these products, I'd appreciate an email
from you.  Hope those that asked for this summary find it somewhat useful.

Regards... 
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Siemens Industrial Automation   Inet: cgh018%tijc02@uunet.uu.net  
-- My opinions and mine alone --      cgh018@tijc02.uucp
From: jason@bohemia.metronet.org (Jason Taubman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: WANTED: Shoebox w/tape and disk for 3/60
Keywords: sun, shoebox
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:19:42 GMT
Organization: Bohemia BBS System

Hello,
Im looking for a sun shoebox loaded with a 1/4" tape drive, and a disk 
=> 150 meg for a sun 3/60. If you have one of these beasts lying around,
or know where I could pick one up, let me know.

Thanks,
Jason Taubman
jason@bohemia.metronet.org
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: euamhk@eua.ericsson.se (Henrik.Martin)
Subject: Thermometer to a Sun
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:52:55 GMT

Hi! Some time ago there was a discussion on the net about connecting a
thermometer to a Sun. Unfortunately, I wasn't quite interested in those
things then, so I didn't save any of those news. Could any one with
experience from these kind of devices please share his/hers experiences
on the subject with me? Is there any kind of special device drivers
needed?  Does any one have the code written to a such driver? I'm going
to use it in an application that controls a heating device and
therefore I need to be able to measure the temperature of the heating
device. 

Regards

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Ellemtel Telecommunication Systems Laboratories
Office phone: + 46 8 727 36 04 Fax: + 46 8 647 82 76
Email: Henrik.Martin@eua.ericsson.se
From: lavoie@schizo.samsung.com (Paul Lavoie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Need printcap entry for HP Laserjet series 2
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:29:39 GMT
Reply-To: lavoie@schizo.samsung.com (Paul Lavoie)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Samsung Software America, Inc.



   Can someone please send me a working /etc/printcap entry for a 
   laserjet seried II printer?.



   Please send it to:

   lavoie@samsung.com
From: bmcm@beech.lle.rochester.edu (Brian McMaster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Re: GIF to Sun Raster Picture
Date: 22 Jul 92 13:31:40 GMT
Reply-To: bmcm@beech.lle.rochester.edu (Brian McMaster)
Organization: UofR Laboratory for Laser Energetics

If anyone has that util, please post the location, lots of people could 
use it !
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: "Suncoast" <p00028@mail.psi.net>
Subject: Solbourne CG3 and 32MB ECC Memory needed
Organization: SWI
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:13:06 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.01)

Does anybody have a Solbourne CG3 color graphics card and/or a 32 MB 
expansion board available to sell?

Let me know.  We can trade for any Sun components that you may need.

Thanks,

Brent Robinson
Suncoast Workstations, Inc.
(813) 587-7882
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: list@immd4.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Stefan List ())
Subject: Info on generic SCSI device driver wanted
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:08:07 GMT
Keywords: generic device-driver

Locking for a generic character SCSI device driver for SUN-OS 4.1.1 
similar to "ds" on Silicon Graphics.

Interested in information on public domain (source or binary) or 
commercial products.

Thank you for emailing, it's my first try.


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Internet: list@informatik.uni-erlangen.de
From: alamut@netcom.com (Maxwell X. Delysid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Systech cable needed...
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:06:06 GMT
Organization: Longinus Software & Garden ov Delights

..
 i have a SYtech STC-4400 Multibus serial card but no cabling..
i assume the cabling does some multiplexing itself, and isn't just something
i can splice together... (especially since i have no pinouts!)
 
anyway, anyone know where i can find a cable? or anyone have an old
moldy sun2 lying around that may have one inside??
 
 reply via email please!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: tcurrey@aisg.com (Thomas E. Currey)
Subject: Sun shoebox for Sun 4/110 wanted 
Keywords: Disk 
Reply-To: tcurrey@aisg.com (Thomas E. Currey)
Organization: Accura Innovative Services Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 19:14:07 GMT


Does anyone have a Sun Shoebox with a 70Meg or bigger Disk for sale?

		Thanks
		Tom Currey
		tcurrey@aisg.com



Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
From: jedwards@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (James Edwards)
Subject: Mail Browser....
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:33:05 GMT

I am a little new to this, so please excuse my ignorance.  I was
wondering a news browser type of program existed for the SUN; and if so
where I could get it.  I have used the one on the NEXT and MAC, but am
still in the dark ages on the sparc.

Jimi
From: sean@trane.UUCP (Sean Gallagher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Wanted: SunOs 4.1.1 1/4" tapes for the Sun Sparc 2e
Keywords: help sun tapes sunos boot sparc wanted
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:53:22 GMT
Organization: Aurora Systems, Santa Clara, CA

I'm trying to find a copy of SunOs 4.1.1 for the Spac 2 on 1/4 inch
tape. Sun won't sell it anymore so I am looking for other channels to buy 
it through. What I am actually interested in are the boot files and 
miniroot so I can make my own hybrid bootable install tapes for our 
highly customized systems.

Oh, yeah, the operative word is "tape" - CD Rom drives are unacceptable
for this application.

Any helpful suggestions as to companies, services, etc. that would sell
it will be much appreciated.

-Sean Gallagher

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From: lin@proton.llumc.edu (P. James Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Needs help in product info
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:22:39 GMT
Organization: LLUMC Radiation Research Lab



Hi,

I am looking for database products which has the same functions as
Apple Computer Inc.'s Data Access Language (DAL) but also run on UNIX
platforms. Current DAL runs on PC and Macintosh only. 
Please e-mail your suggestions to me. 
Your help will be very appreciated.

P. James Lin                      | INTERNET: lin@proton.llumc.edu
Radiation Research Laboratory     | UUCP    : ...!ucrmath!proton!lin
Loma Linda University Medical Center, 11234 Anderson St., Loma Linda, CA 92354
Tel: (714)824-4066 FAX: (714)824-4067
From: dm76+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel McKeel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Wanted 2/120 Tape drive
Date: 30 Jul 92 08:55:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oeS1vk600Uh_03U3Mi
Organization: Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Greetings    
    Looking for tape drive and controller for 2/120.Have some excess
parts for possible trade?
Thanks 
Dan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Networking recommendation
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 18:29:37 GMT

In article <55590004@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> aliamus@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Steve Aliamus) writes:
>I'm posting for a friend who doesn't have net-access...
>
>     I've got two Sun 3/80s that I'd like to network together.  What's a
>     good (read cheap) method?

Join them with a piece of thinwire and terminators at each end. Might cost
$25 or so (two terminators, two T-connectors, n feet of coax).
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Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
From: shirley@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shirley McAdams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: HP 35470A DAT with SS1+
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:35:37 GMT
Organization: UB

Can HP 35470A DAT drive be used on SS1+ with SunOS 4.1.1?
Anybody has experience in this drive on Sun?

Thanks for any information.
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Memory upgrade on a Sun Sparcstation IPX
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:34:49 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <28JUL199215252503@jetson.uh.edu> acslp@jetson.uh.edu (M M Uddin (Pablo) acslp@jetson.uh.edu) writes:
<Dear Sun experts: 
<
<	We have a Sun Sparcstation IPX, and we need a memory upgrade 
<from 16MEGS to 32MEGS in order to run a demonstration program. Would someone 
<kindly explain how this is done?  

1) Purchase new 16 MB SIMM (double-width type)
2) Shutdown IPX
3) Open chassis
4) Insert SIMM into memory socket nearest SIMM already installed
5) Close chassis
6) Turn on power

Done
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc