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Subject: PROJECT ASPIRE NETWORK
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:54:17 GMT

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Wey Jing HO)
Subject: Re: News on Subang Airport, Malaysia
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:17:07 GMT

In <1992Nov21.124543.1@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg> ba2545816@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg writes:

>Hi everyone!  Here's a news article extracted from The Straits Times on
>November 19, 1992.


>	Subang Staff `Negligent, Failed To Fight April Fire'

>The committee's report, which was presented to the Cabinet last week, confirmed
>that the blaze was caused by an electrical fault in one of the duty-free shops.

>In the two-volume report released by the Transport Ministry, the Electricity
>Supply Department said that the wiring system at the airport did not comply
                                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>fully with official regulations.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 Doesn't this sound very familiar? I wonder how many of the Malaysian (and
many other countries) public service projects comply fully with the official
regulations. One of my cousins resigned from his job because he claimed that
his company does not comply with standards as regulated by various regulatory
boards in Malaysia. Wonder how wide-spread this is?

>The committee said that failure to put out the fire was due to negligence of
>DCA officers and staff and five other factors - the malfunctioning of the fire
>prevention equipment like water sprinklers, the poor condition of the fire
>alarm control panel, the non-use of hose reels, glass-covered alarms not being
>activated and failure to monitor the closed-circuit television system.

 Negligence of DCA officers on duty? Has anyone ever heard of prevention is
better than cure? What about the sub-standard wiring job? Maybe sub-standard
fire-control equipment as well!!

>The committee recommended that disciplinary action be taken against officers
>negligent on the night of the fire `to serve as a lesson and warning to
>others.'

 Has any action being taken against the contracter and project engineer in
charge of the terminal project? Surely if the main course of the fire is a
wiring fault, action should be taken against them too. I pity those who has
to work in sub-standard environment with sub-standard equipments; and most 
of these people are those that are not fortunate enough to gain higher 
education (unversity or equivalent) to really know that the equipment may be
sub-standard.


-- 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Wey Jing Ho    Tel: 61-3-573-2567   E-mail : sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au<
>Physics Dept., Monash University ( Caulfield Campus ), Melbourne, AUSTRALIA<
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From: jit@slic.cellbio.duke.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malaysian News
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:12:56 GMT
Originator: jit@slic.cellbio.duke.edu

khairon@usc.edu (Rosli Bin Khairon) writes:

>    I was just wondering where you got the Malaysian papers from. It is
>not that I don't appreciate the fine work these unsung heroes of the net
>have done in posting Malaysian news, but if you read them closely, those
>who post the news have added their own slant to the news. Without getting
>too deeply philosophical here, the selective witholding of information 
>can be construed as lying. I cannot speak for others, but my personal 
>feeling is: Let ME add my own slant to the news, thank you very much. 
>    So, please, if anyone should know of where I can subscribe to a 
>Malaysian paper, drop me a line.
>
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Rosli Khairon
>University of South Central
>Los Angeles la Pueblo Nuestra


If you are referring to all the articles that I have posted,
you may want to double check if they are any news being witheld.

Perhaps Mr. Othman Ahmad or anyone else who has access to 
The Strait Times can tell you better that all those articles are
not selectively posted by me.  I post the entire
2 pages of Malaysia news everytime I post, without any censorship.
Pardon me, of course, I did not post the article on Hong Kong
stars Alan Tam and whoever Mui she was, were in Kuala Lumpur.
Yes, you may blame me for these.   However, I am sure you may go to 
soc.culture.hongkong to read this if you are interested.

Now, perhaps your "closely" is not yet close enough.
You didn't even notice that it was The Strait Time, did you ?
Sigh....
From: gt6737b@prism.gatech.EDU (E.A. JAAFAR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: PSD's new PA system
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:06:59 GMT
Organization: Ramblin Wreck from Georgia Tech


 *My standard disclaimer applies.*

11/3/92. New Appraisal system is 99.9% perfect, says PSD.
========================================================

KL: The new performance appraisal system for government 
employees has eliminated all possibilities of discrimi-
native assesment, PSD director-general Tan Sri Mahmud
Taib said.

"It is 99.9% perfect.  The PSD has tried its very best
to plug all loopholes to ensure fair assesment for the 
civil servants," Mahmud said yesterday.

The new appraisal system will determine the annual 
increments for the 880,000 civil servants under the 
public sector's new salary structure, the New Remunera-   
tion system(NRS).

He said civil servants should not have any fears or 
prejudice of discriminative assessment under the new
system which gives merit percentage points to determine
their levels of performance.

Apart from the appraisal panets set up at all ministeries,
departments, State governments, statutories bodies 
and local authorities, there would be special committees
known as "moderation committees" to re-assess their
evaluation particularly the extreme cases.

Mahmud said the moderation committees would extensively
scrutinise those with the lowest points and the highest
points.

"I cant say the whole system is perfect.  But to me, it is
99.9% perfect.  Only God is perfect," he said.
[perhaps the most idiotic-passimistic statement I've ever
heard from a Tan Sri as a head of any governmental         
agensies!]

Under the new appraisal system set to take effect this      
month, Government employees will be given increments
based on their ability to achieve targets set by their
respective departments.

The three-level salary increases, which would take effect     
from next year, base the quantum of increments on the
workers ability to meet the targets.

---------------------------------------------------------
Dont you have a gazillion questions to ask abt this?
I wish I could get an official copy of how they are
going to do this.  Unfortunately, that's all I can 
dig out thus far.  
 

-- 
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* E.A. Jaafar.  ...mourning the impending death of Superman...                *
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From: x90mohd30@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Anybody knows Malaysia Cup final result ????	
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:05:55 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <BxsqMy.GMy@ns1.nodak.edu>, low@plains.NoDak.edu (Steve Ong and Kheng Low) writes:
> 
The lastest news I've heard from home.........


	PAHANG - 1	KEDAH - 0


Did not know who scored for Pahang.


	Pahang won 4 championship this season
xD~
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: siong@fraser.sfu.ca (Siong Heng Chan)
Subject: Re: "Lovey" and Funny Pantun
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:12:06 GMT

azran@leland.Stanford.EDU (Azran Osman Rani) writes:



>Mawar merah membisik asmara
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Eh eh!!!  Berkhalwat ni oiiii!!!!  Tak baik...salah ni!!  Haram tahu?? :) :)
Thank god you are not in Kelantan now!!  :)

Just a guy here with nothing better to do,
siong.
:)
From: u3169709@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Numero Uno)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Humour (was Motion... Please Vote!!)
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:29:37 +1100
Organization:  

koay@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Jin S. Koay):
> "Othman Ahmad & dogs' postings not allowed"

Humour.

Mad-dog Pak Othman is a well-known psychopath.  Every day, he would for
a tramp in the woods.  And he loves it!  Mind you, the tramp is getting
a bit fed up!

Mad-dog would attack himself if the tramp is not available.  He would
chased himself in circles trying to bit his own balls off.

He is a thorough-bred and he got papers... but he never uses them.

Last Saturday he took first prize at the cat show - he took the cat.

You may be glad to hear that finally I've got him eating out of my hand.
But last night he gave my hand quite a nasty bite.
	Did you put anything on it?
No, he liked it just as it was.

I was very lucky indeed.  We all know how vicious Mad-dog Pakcik can be.
If he likes you he doesn't lick your hand; he lets you keep it.

Oh, I nearly forgot.  Pak Othman is a great educator.  He teaches his
students fidelity, perseverance and to turn around three times before
lying down.


-Num
From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: PSD's new PA system
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:50:57 GMT

gt6737b@prism.gatech.EDU (E.A. JAAFAR) writes:


> *My standard disclaimer applies.*

>11/3/92. New Appraisal system is 99.9% perfect, says PSD.
>========================================================

>KL: The new performance appraisal system for government 
>employees has eliminated all possibilities of discrimi-
>native assesment, PSD director-general Tan Sri Mahmud
>Taib said.

>"It is 99.9% perfect.  The PSD has tried its very best
>to plug all loopholes to ensure fair assesment for the 
>civil servants," Mahmud said yesterday.

>"I cant say the whole system is perfect.  But to me, it is
>99.9% perfect.  Only God is perfect," he said.
>[perhaps the most idiotic-passimistic statement I've ever
>heard from a Tan Sri as a head of any governmental         



These words out of a mouth of a Director General of PSD ?
The whole world would be laughing, mate ! Everybody in
this net please note; This is not a typical Malaysian
mentality, but a classic case of the FAILURE OF NEP I
SUPPOSE ?

The Tan Sri is obviously saying that he is NEXT to`God,
because he is near perfect. 99.9% is certainly very close
to perfect.
From: x92lim5@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: PEACE ??????
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:53:05 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

    After viewing comments from various posting, I feel dissapointed
that the NET is used as a battlefield for racial fire. I belive that the NET
should be used for beneficial purposes such as promoting friendship, news
and in this case, racial intergration and understanding.
    
    As we are granted the freedom of expression, we should exercise this
right responsiblely, in order not to hurt others' feelings. Let me give you an
example, If you shout " FIRE!!!" in a crowded theater and all the hell breaks
loose, later you say " Oh, I am just exercising my "Freedom of Expression"
right. Do you think it's ok? Mind you, you will be busted. ( Rather extreme
example but I hope it drives home the point ).

    I sincerely hope that we will use the NET for friendship, not hate
peace, not war, unity, not diversity. I am open for comments and 
CONSTRUCTIVE critism.


Peace and love to all who read this posting.


Stanley Lim




                                                           
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: alfred@omcron.uleth.ca (James Alfred)
Subject: News from Technet
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:08:36 GMT

Could someone please tell me the internet address for access to Singapore's

news network.  I got the address from an article of this news group a
couple of weeks ago, but somehow lost it.  Thanks.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: c9110499@cc.newcastle.edu.au (You want to barter my soul? You mean it's worth something? Here, take it...)
Subject: Re: Gossips
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:24:59 GMT

In article <1edl2dINNa6o@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aq668@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Candy Lee) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, c9110499@cc.newcastle.edu.au (You want to barter my soul? You mean it's worth something? Here, take it...) says:
> 
>>In article <1992Nov15.215633.4019@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>, u3169709@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Numero Uno) writes:
>>> thc2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Tse Huong CHOO):
>>>>For those who slammed Candy lately, she's just emailed me - lacking the
>>>>guts to post her misguided replies onto the net. Since there seems to be 
>>>>interest in what sort of drivel this she-twit writes, here are some 
>>>>excerpts.
> 
> [deleted]
> 
>>For anyone to post a private email to the net has got to be "bad", to put
>>it nicely.  Only wants an audience I'd say, no matter what Tse says.
> 
> I was apparently "...slammed in more ways than one" by Tse Huan Choo  :(

Well, he could have fooled me.  You didn't seem at all slammed in my opinion.
 
> 
>>Did they used to be going out??   Be an Ex-War if so....so can Tse kindly
>>keep it between himself and Candy.  If others want to know about anything,
>>they can ask for forwards of the messages, or to be put on the CC list.
> 
> 
> Noooooooooooooo...gimme some credit would ya? I'd probably smell this
> one out better than you can smell a dead skunk along the highways. 
> Sheeeshhh...
> 

Oops...sorry  *blush*

As to the skunk, I've usually zoomed past them before I get the chance to
smell them...pity eh??  ;)
 
> 
> Fluffy
> -- 
> 

Fally.
From: heerdege@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Juergen Heerdegen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: who's right & who's wrong arguments [was Re: racial harmony- Yasmin]
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:04:40 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Perhaps YOU and Mr. Quayle are related.  Judging from your poor command of the
vernacular, this might not be an incorrect assumption.  I just felt that I 
would point out that this only detracts from your arguments (however flawed
they might be).  Statements such as (a paraphrase - ) "all whites are 
Christians" and (again a paraphrase- ) "America is in a state of moral decay
because of this society's views concerning pornography, extra-marital affairs,
etc" endear you to noone :-).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean,aus.flame
From: rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift)
Subject: Re: How to be an Othman in 10 easy steps.
Organization: -=[ Curtin University of Technology ]=-  Perth  Australia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:56:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.151910.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>, c9110499@cc.newcastle.edu.au (You want to barter my soul? You mean it's worth something? Here, take it...) writes:
> 
> Here it is.
> 
> I have finanlly finished all that I need do, and now have the time to post
> this useful step-by-step guide for all those aspiring Othmans out there.  :)
> 
> This is, "The 10 Step Guide to : How to be an Othman"
> 
> Fal.

Classic.  Can I digress to check my dictionary for a new word!

Othmanize. v.  To totally overrun a USENET newsgroup (cf). [Malay: From annoying
newsgroup participant Othman Binhead]

Rod
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From: vcs_teo@csd.uwe.ac.uk (VCS Teo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: USEA 2100
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:53:17 GMT
Organization: University of the West of England, Bristol

In article <WLIM.92Nov18181205@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu> wlim@ai.mit.edu (William Y-P. Lim) writes:
>Suppose, in the year 2100, you have been asked to help write the
>constitution of a new country called USEA (Union of South-East Asia)
>with all the current SEA nations as member states. 
>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 	From what is happening in the EEC right now, I would not be in a
	hurry to form a USEA as you called it. Anyway for the sake of 
	a discussion, I'll say a few things.
>
>1) Individual rights
	This is easy, just don't do what they did in Malaysia, and we'll
be fine....:) ...NOT. Actually  I would prefer something of the American 
type eg. free speech etc but with certain restrictions on issues like
racism, sexism and religion.
	
>2) State rights
	every member states should be govern by the same law and if any 
variations they should not infringe or be contradictory to another
member states.

>3) National culture: e.g. national religion, national language
	                        none          this one is tough
I think all languages spoken in the members states should be part of
the national languages. Its really up to the people to study whatever
language that they would think is suitable for them, its unfair for 
anyone to impose on to the people a particular language by making it
a national language. 
>

===victor===



-- 

== victor == Faculty of Law ==================================================
=== teo ==== University of the West of England, Bristol ======================
JANET: vcs_teo@uk.ac.uwe.csd ==================== WORLD: vcs_teo@csd.uwe.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: khaw@eagle.sangamon.edu (Thiam Khaw)
Subject: Help Bugs in DOS 
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Sangamon State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:58:11 GMT

[ Article crossposted from comp.os.misc ]
[ Author was Thiam Khaw ]
[ Posted on Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:52:25 GMT ]

It was brought to my attention from a friend of mine that there were some bugs when using the ATSPEED.COM.
	Apparently, instead of speeding up the repeat keystroke of the PC, the corrupted program (ATSPEED.COM) will delete the Config.sys file in the PC. The next time the PC is started, normal application such as windows does not work. By making the Config.sys read only does not help at all too.
	The following changes has been noted externally:
i) the attribute of ATSPEED.COM has been changed to make is Read-Only and Hidden.
ii)The size of the file has increase from 214 to 342 bytes and the date/time created from 06-12-88 5.54 p.m. to 01-01-99 12:59p.


Well, I need your help to solve this.
	Any ideas? If you do, Please e-mail to me directly.


Thanks.

khaw@eagle.sangamon.edu 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: othman@ntrc25.ntrc.ntu.ac.sg (othman (EEE/Div 4))
Subject: Re: Please enlighten me Othman
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:08:38 GMT

Heng Wei Osbert Tan (fellow@cs.utexas.edu) wrote:
: 
: On the subject of promoting non mandarin speaker to the position of 
: the principal in a Chinese School in Malaysia:
: 
: Othman wrote:
: > > There are a lot of those in Singapore. Why can't we promote him even if he
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Those chinese who cannot speak Mandarin. Are you saying they are not chinese 
any more?

: > > only learns a few Mandarin words?
: 
: Tai rebuffed:
: > 
: > 	That's Singapore.  I think it would extremely difficult to find such
: > creatures in M'sia (ie, teaching in chinese schools, but can't speak chinese)
You cannot use Tai's reinterpretation of my sentence. Even he put it in 
brackets.
: I know, I know ... I know that we all know Othman often mouth off nonsenses.
: But please, do us and the general readers a favor, atleast try to get your
: fact straight before you talk ? Othman ?

You'd better try to understand the speaker before you blow your head.

: 
: Do produce ONE example of a principal in Singapore's chinese school who
: doesn't speak atleast decent mandarin, I challenge you. I do not think

Since you're intervening, I hope you can enlighten us as to what happen to
teachers who teach English in those schools? Do they have to be good in 
Mandarin as well? If they cannot be fluent in Mandarin, is there hope for
them to be a principal, assuming of course that there are such teachers 
employed, or are they to be transfered to another schools?

: you even know which are the chinese schools in Singapore, do you ?
Right. How can I say such a thing?
Imagine my surprise when a Chinese University in Hong Kong use English.
With such knowledge, I dare not commit anything about schools with chinese
as one of its name. 

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: c9110499@cc.newcastle.edu.au (You want to barter my soul? You mean it's worth something? Here, take it...)
Subject: Re: On the contrary, Chua HL
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 04:51:44 GMT

In article <1e5delINN3ja@oak42.doc.ic.ac.uk>, thc2@doc.ic.ac.uk (Tse Huong CHOO) writes:
> 
> Chua writes: 
>>If she wants to correspond with you by email, then the argument is between
>>the two of you. We are not interested. Please respect net.etiquette and
>>resolve it amongst yourselves. 
> 
> As I said, on the contrary. For one, u3169709@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au has
> expressed interest in this issue, so you should not presume to speak
> for the rest.
> 

As I said, give him followups, or put his name in the relevant file.
Most of us couldn't care less.

Fal.


> Tse
> 
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