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From: jerry@nutmeg.hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Club 'pressings', shipping
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:00:37 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Sep9.171118.24417@berlioz.nsc.com>, ivan@berlioz.nsc.com (Ivan Wemple) writes:
> 
> Here's what I think... As someone pointed out, the clubs employ personnel.
> They have a toll-free number.  They produce a glossy catalog that they mail
> out regularly (at no cost to you).  They advertise.  They package their
> disks for mailing.  At ~ $8.00 per disk, it's a wonder they make any money
> at all.  


As has been pointed out in other threads, the manufacturing costs are between
$1 and $2 per CD, so throw in another dollar or two for packaging and inserts
and it's not hard to see how they make money at $8 per disk.  They've
eliminated the middleman *entirely*:  no distributors, no retail outlets.
What amazes me is that the record stores let them get away with it.  For most
other products, retailers would never tolerate the manufacturer selling below
list because it cuts into the retail trade.

. . . which brings me to a question.  I assume BMG is just a marketing arm of
RCA records.  If so, then why isn't the entire RCA catalog available through
BMG?  Is *that* how the retailers are kept happy?
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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Black Swan Records and getting CD's from Canada (Was: k.d. lang)
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:35:01 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Distribution: na
Organization: The Bates Motel

schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster) writes:
>gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>>
>>If you're looking for "import" CDs, Canada is also another possible
>>source before going overseas.  Nou Dadoun, who posts now and again, is
>>connected to Black Swan Records in Vancouver, B.C. (dadoun@cs.ubc.ca)
>>but cannot publicize that in first person due to USENET ethics.  Stuff
>>from the Canadian CD Versions list and other imports are often found
>>as Canadian domestics due to different importation laws and different
>>market dynamics (smaller market, need more than mass volume sales).
>
>I belive it was you who was nice enough to mail me this a while back
>when I was trying to get a Lighthouse CD. I sent this fellow email,
>and received no reply. No bounced mail ... just no answer.


Sorry to hear that ... somebody else from an earlier Chris De Burgh
thread sent me mail with the same thing just now ... I have NO idea
what's going on since I don't have any connection to that guy.  The
only other thing to do is check the FAQ list of CD exporters/importers
on Rec.music.cd, as there are a couple of Ontario services (Ottawa and
Whitby, a suburb of Toronto) as well but I don't know about their
pricing; but, it's got to be better than going to an import shop in
the U.S.  There is also a Snail address for Black Swan Records on that
list.  If Nou doesn't want to use his e-mail for business, could he
please drop me a note (he's never said anything) and I only put it in
that advice file because e-mail is cheaper and easier than telephone.

The best solution pricewise is still to find a friend or a colleague
travelling up for business or pleasure, and get them to pick up what
you need.  That way, you can avoid import store gouging.  I'll have to
repost the Canadian CD Versions list at some point (I've made a couple
of updates over the summer).

gld
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Je me souviens ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Gary L. Dare				
> gld@cunixB.cc.columbia.EDU		Oct 26/92: Just say "OUI!"
> gld@cunixc.BITNET			(Let's worry about the economy!)
From: milliken@scofield.Corp.Sun.COM (Gary Milliken)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Help identify this song!!!!!
Date: 15 Sep 1992 16:33:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: scofield.corp.sun.com

In article kirmani@andromeda.rutgers.edu (andromeda.rutgers.edu!kirmani  ttyp1   Jan  6 15:05) writes:
>could anyone help me identify this song.
>It is from ther mid-eighties and has a very catchy and pop tune.
>A male voice is singing.
>
>Nobody gonna (something) my style
>(something something ) me down,   
>I know
>I've got to keep on moving
>


"Nobody's gonna break my stride"

It's "Break My Stride" by Matthew Wilder, I believe.
From: dkm3792@hertz.njit.edu (Dave Michaels)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Golden Carilla
Keywords: annie golden frank carilla fire in new town silenz records
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:37:51 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

I heard in a record store in NYC a CD by a band I believe is called Golden
Carilla, a partnership between NYC based artist Annie Golden and Frank Carilla.
The person who put the CD on insisted that I cant get a copy yet, but also said
it is only available in Holland (ithink!) It is called Fire In New Town 
and the label is Silenz records. I assume that no USA companies wanted to 
issue it but this foreign company did. How can i get in touch with the company
or find a copy of this CD?
 Anyone with information on is group or on this label please let me know!
Thanks!
-dave
From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: k.d. lang
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:54:09 GMT
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Deep Space Nine

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>
>Her first album's never been released in the US: _A Truly Western
>Experience._ It's finally out on CD in Canada, but the price is 
>pretty steep when you can find it in the US, and it's a very short 
>album (under half an hour).  

[Rather than get gouged for American import prices, you can get
Canadian domestic CD's from a couple of shops that export; also,
some European imports can be found in Canada as domestic, too.
Please note that this is a referral and not an advertisement.]

If you're looking for "import" CDs, Canada is also another possible
source before going overseas.  Nou Dadoun, who posts now and again, is
connected to Black Swan Records in Vancouver, B.C. (dadoun@cs.ubc.ca)
but cannot publicize that in first person due to USENET ethics.  Stuff
from the Canadian CD Versions list and other imports are often found
as Canadian domestics due to different importation laws and different
market dynamics (smaller market, need more than mass volume sales).

I've never used him, as I can just call up my brother, and otherwise
only know him as a bloke on the net; his userid is all I can remember
as I can't be bothered about telephone numbers for other commercial
services.  I have no connection to this guy, your dealings would be
strictly with him; this is just the easiest, simplest, laziest way
for me to connect you with a source up north ...

gld
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> gld@cunixB.cc.columbia.EDU		Oct 26/92: Just say "OUI!"
> gld@cunixc.BITNET			(Let's worry about the economy!)
From: csc2110136@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: GnR <Missing Songs?>
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:10:21 CST
Followup-To: gnr <missing songs?>
Keywords: gnr
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exOP[?63;1;2;4;8;9;15cIn article <1992Aug23.210641.2152@cs.unca.edu>, mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
> JONAX (asj4j@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU) wrote:
> : BTW...if anybody would be interested in a copy of the IN THE STUDIO tape
> : I could send you one for a couple of bucks...
> 
> He is lying! He's charging $7.75 for it!!!
> 
> Scott
From: jimh@pongo.Eng.Sun.COM (jim hori)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Reggae, Lucky Dube
Date: 15 Sep 1992 15:23:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world, rec, usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pongo

In article <9180056@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> rodean@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bruce Rodean) writes:
>  U-Roy - True Born African--Title track just blew me away and the rest
>  is just as good.  I've read that this guy has been around for a long
>  time.  Any other recommendations for his stuff?

While there were JA vocalists who declaimed, or toasted (the JA
name for it) over records before him, and actually a couple who
made records, the first with massive hit records was U Roy. Songs
like "Wear You To The Ball" were recorded over rhythms from hit 
songs recorded at Treasure Isle Records, and swept Jamaica in
the early '70s. (The idea of talking over rhythms was brought
to New York by Jamaican immigrants a couple years later, leading
to rap, but that's another story.)

U Roy's Treasure Isle recordings are almost uniformly good, given
the catchiness of the rhythm tracks, and if you see him live, these
classics still make up the heart of his set. See him in a crowd of
older Jamaican's and everyone will sing the parts of the original
singers. He also made some great albums which were distributed by
Virgin in the UK around the mid to late 70s.


....
jimh@west.sun.com
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 9 Sep 1992 17:51:38 EDT
From: M.A. Murphy <MURPH@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: "ALTERNATIVE" REVIEWS NEEDED

In article <1992Sep6.144315.6527@iscsvax.uni.edu>, gilligan6855@iscsvax.uni.edu says:
>
>I was at the local record store yesterday and noticed several new albums I
>wanted, but being a little short on cash, decided to pass them up until I read
>reviews of them.  Which brings me to my request:  I need reviews for the
>following albums:
>
>SUGAR : COPPER BLUE

If there's any justice in this world, Sugar will meet with the same sort
of success and acceptance that Sonic Youth, Nirvana and Helmet have met with.
Mould's years with Husker Du and some good solo albums have laid a foundation
that Sugar's "Copper Blue" continues to build upon.  Sugar is a full-tilt
rock outfit, more akin to Mould in the Husker days than his more recent,
more pop-ish, solo outings.  That's not to say that Mould is trying to
reinvent Husker Du - Sugar has its own identity and its own agenda.  You
are the aural beneficiary.


>UNCLE TUPELO:  the newest one

Indie-rock gods go acoustic and traditional - and the results are
uniformly excellent!  This is what being 'unplugged' is really all about.

>    A friend of mine describes Uncle Tupelo as, on their albums "No
>Depression"
>and "Still Feel Gone" as beginning with a really folky intro and then kicking
>ass.  He says the new one is all wind-up and no follow-through.  Agree?
>Disagree?  I love the aforementioned albums.

Hmm...  I thought the songs still 'kicked', but without making a lot
of noise about it.

-------

                                            Murph

                                            Michael A. Murphy
                                            MURPH@MAINE.BITNET

If you do not understand my silence
you will not understand my words.
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: WOnder Stuff/Indigo Girls followup.
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:01:25 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken


Well, i called up the radio station (WHTG) that played
 the wonder stuff's cover of the indigo girls "closer to fine">

the guy on the phone wasn't much help, however.  he said
 it was an import promo of the song, and couldn't give
 me any more information, other than to say that he didn't
 think it could be purchased.

however, one person who sent to me said that he thought it
 might be one of those compilation discs that (nme/q/some
 british paper) would give you if you got a subscription.

anyone know for sure?

thanks - bob gaj
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: dominimj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Michael J Dominick)
Subject: Re: How about this song?
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:13:15 GMT


In article <1992Sep11.063122.102157@zeus.calpoly.edu>  writes:
> I have a question about this song by Pink Floyd. It goes like this.
> 
> Some kids singing "Hey teacher! leaving your kids alone" and at the end  
of
> the song, some old guy says "How can you have any pudding if you  
don't..."
> 
> Kinda vague but I'm sure you PF fans out there can identify it.
> What's the name of the song and what album is it on?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Jeff :)

	This is of course "Another Brick in the Wall (Part 2)" off their  
greatest album (I should get a couple flames for this) "The Wall".

					MJD
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From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Suzanne Vega's "Blood Makes Noise"
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:57:49 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Sep9.074653.20343@cunews.carleton.ca> wcsanil@superior.carleton.ca (Anil Prasad) writes:
>
>I've found myself completely addicted to Suzanne Vega's new single
>"Blood Makes Noise". I was wondering if any CD singles with remixes
>and different versions have been released around the world.

Follow-up on this question.
At a local show they had lots of promo singles on this tune. It's the
same cut as on the album, and you'd imagine if there were a remix
it would appear first on the promotional copies.

Of all the suzanne Vega stuff I have, the only remix I've ever come across
is an alternate version of Men In A War on a British EP (with the
customary 2 live tracks at the end).



-- 
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Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Friday, 4 Sep 1992 19:13:27 EDT
From: <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Bono's "Axl Rose" joke in Montreal
 <Carts-notebookURd4f_2S2@clarinet.com> <1992Sep4.160626.349@news.columbia.edu>

I don't think this has anything to do with Axl Rose,
Ive heard alot of bands say this...as a joke.
You know..."Thank you, good night" Like were leaving...
without a reason...Axl left for a reason.

I kinda like what Axl said about Kurt Cobain...

"Him and his wife are drug addicts and if their baby is
 born deformed, they should be jailed"...unfortunatelu
 this is no joke.

That was a loose quote by the way...something like that.

                      Doc Holiday
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From: relph@presto.ig.com (John M. Relph)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Blake Babies & Juliana Hatfield
Summary: discography?
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:55:38 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.misc
Organization: Space CUDets Int'l


Hey Babe,

  I am attempting to compile a discography of the Blake Babies and
Juliana Hatfield.  If you would like to contribute or would like a
copy of the discography such as it is today, send an e-mail message to
me at <relph@ig.com>.

Here's the short discography:

1987		Album		Blake Babies: Nicely, Nicely

1989		Album		Blake Babies: Earwig

1990		Album		Giant Sand: Swerve
1990		Album		Blake Babies: Sunburn
1990		Single		Blake Babies: Lament

1991?		EP		Blake Babies: Rosy Jack World
1991		Album		Suzanna Hoffs: Boy

1992		Album		Juliana Hatfield: Hey Babe

I believe that Ms Hatfield also contributes to one or more Lemonheads
records, and I don't have any details about Ms Hoffs' solo LP or the
Lament single.  Pe,

	-- John
From: glaurent@wombat.inria.fr (Guillaume Laurent)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Eric Clapton Info Wanted
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:12:18 GMT
Organization: Koala Project, Bull Research France

In article <1992Sep9.141952.10706@waikato.ac.nz>, coyle@waikato.ac.nz writes:

> Unplugged, is it acoustic or not?  Is It Could Have Been Me?? with Sting on
> it. 
> Also has Eric done something with Elton John recently?

Okay, I pretty much like this song, so just nitpicking a bit:
Correct title is: "It's probably me".

					Guillaume.
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: jejones@microware.com (James Jones)
Subject: Re: Songs about vampires 'n' things...?
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 20:07:02 GMT

"Reynardine," trad., done by various folks (John Renbourn Group, Fairport
Convention, and Buffy St. Marie are all that come to my mind).

	James Jones
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: speterse%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (soren--Ms. Jackson if you're nasty)
Subject: Re: Paranoia
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:15:21 MDT
Organization: The Erland Cult

In article <1992Sep14.223532.20220@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> aaron@space.ualberta.ca writes:
>I've been wondering lately--is there a band out there called Paranoia?

That's what they want you to think....

--
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speterse@peruvian.utah.edu :  THE university OF utah  :
"How could I dance with another/When I saw him standing there"  --Tiffany
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: gallo@almira.asel.udel.edu (Andy Gallo)
Subject: Pearl Jam vs. Temple of the Dog
Organization: AI duPont Institute
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:55:36 GMT



	OK, clear something up for me.  I'm a occasional Mtv viewer
and I've seen Pearl Jam's "Unplugged" performance video of "Porch" as
well as their video for "Jeremy".  Now the other day I was watching
and saw a band calling themselves Temple of the Dog.  Now, if I didn't
know any better I'd say this was Pearl Jam operating under another
name.  The sound is the same, the pseudo-grunge look is the same, and
the lead singers look identical (at least to the casual observer) and
both have that same psychotic growl.
	So what's the deal - is Temple of the Dog really Pearl Jam,
and if so, why the change in name?  Or this just another in the long
line of Nirvana wanna-be's?
	Thanks.

>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette)
Subject: Re: REQUEST:  Please help name these tunes....
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:56:12 GMT


>>|2.  I didn't hear this one myself, but a friend reports that the word
>>|"Dangerous" is used over and over and is probably the title.  It is
>>|definitely NOT the Roxette song.
>>|

  I don't know if this is the one you're looking for, but Depeche Mode had a 
song called Dangerous. It's the b-side to Personal Jesus
-Daniel
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: imcneill@mccomp.demon.co.uk (imcneill)
Subject: Cat Number Of Bat Out Of Hell II
Distribution: world
Organization: MC Computers
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:28:21 +0000

Could someone please post to me (here or email) the catalog No. and label
of the new Meatloaf album that I've heard has been released Stateside.  It
is certainly not available here, but I can get a mate to import it for me.

P.S.  The new Mike Oldfield Album is rather good isn't it.
Regards

Ian.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: buckmr@lib404.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire)
Subject: Re: JULEE CRUISE solo project
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:04:59 GMT

douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette) writes:


>  Well, I don't know about Julee Cruise being a _permanent_ member of the 
>B-52's though a friend of mine said he saw her in the new B-52's video the
>other day. On the other hand she is not pictured with the other members of 
>band on the cover of thier new album. Go figure...
This is NOT surprisnga t all, since they only include Julee AFTER they finished
the album and were trying to figure out how to tour...

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
From: mxahmad@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (Mehdi Ahmadi)
Subject: How to stablish a record lable?
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:57:47 GMT
Followup-To: s



	I like to know how one can stablish a record lable. I like to
	know the legal steps one need to take and also need info on
	registration. Any info is apptriciated.

	Thanks in advance.



Newsgroups: rec.music.misc,alt.rock-n-roll
From: dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman)
Subject: Re: UAP #21 - Billy Joel, clarification
Keywords: Usenet Artists Polls
Organization: Vertex Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:44:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.143954.29048@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> lrose@nestor.uucp (82370s-punskovsky) writes:
>In article <1992Sep6.221615.13958@enea.se> sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog) writes:
>>It has come to my knowledge that there are two versions 
>>of "Cold Spring Harbour" with different speeds(!). After
>>some contemplation, I have decided to not distinguish
>>between these two versions. So even of you have both
>>versions of "Cold Spring Harbour", please list the album
>>just once, even if you would like to make it two entries.
>>
>>I've made this decision out of simplicity, since not
>>everyone may be aware of which version they actually
>>have.
>>-- 
>>Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
>>"Recreation of source code from design documentation can be costly"
>>IEEE Std 1042/1987
>
>
>I don't recall Billy having two versions of 'Cold Spring Harbor', but
>if so, no doubt that the original (slow) version is on the "Cold
>Spring Harbor" album, his _first_ solo album and the other version
>is probaby on the "Songs in the Attic" album which is most likely a
>live version.


No, there are two versions of the "Cold Spring Harbor" ALBUM. The first
was released on Family Production (distributed by G+W/Paramount) in the
early '70's. This was his first solo album. The album was improperly
mastered, so the record sounds like a tape playing too fast. 

The album was a complete commercial failure and went out of print for about
a decade.  At some point, Joel aquired the rights to the album and reissued
it in the early '80's. The good news was that the vocals were slowed down
to their correct speed. The bad news was that the backing tracks had
in some cases been either overdubbed or re-recorded. As a result, I find
the original issue, wrong speed and all, to be preferable to the reissue.

dap
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Vertex Pharmaceuticals Inc.                     email: dap@vpharm.com
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