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From: jvh@cs.hut.fi (Johannes Helander)
Subject: 32532 Mach port available
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS Lab.
Date: 22 Aug 92 02:10:52


A free port of the Mach 3.0 micro-kernel to the pc532, a National
Semiconductor 32532 based single board computer, is now available.

This is a first public version. Improvements are still needed in some
areas and bug reports / fixes are most welcome: send them to
mach-532-bugs@cs.hut.fi. Also, this is not a complete operating
system. A Un*x server is still needed to run application programs.

A port of the 4.3BSD emulation along with libraries and user programs
has been done and it comes up multi-user but it will not be
distributed due to licensing restrictions.

A version of the net2 based bnr2ss server has been done but it is not
yet in a useful state.  (Unfortunately also the freeness of this along
with the rest of net2, most of which has been built and ported to the
pc532, has been cast in doubt by the Dark Forces).


The porting was done at Helsinki University of Technology by
Johannes Helander, Tero Kivinen, and Tatu Ylonen as an attempt to
obtain some familiarity with the Mach operating system and to get a
real operating system for the pc532.

Many thanks to the Carnegie Mellon Mach group for designing this
superb operating system and for their openness and help. Thanks to
Dave Rand and George Scolaro for designing the pc532 and making the
design freely available. Thanks to Jukka Virtanen, Ian Dall, and Jukka
Partanen for contributing time to this effort as well as to Bruce
Culbertson and Bob Krause for the disassembler.


The sources can be obtained through anonymous ftp from nic.funet.fi in
directory pub/mach/pc532-src. The file pc532.MK78.tar.Z (245737 bytes)
is a set of add-on files to the kernel version MK78 as distributed by
CMU. Some binaries can be found in pub/mach/pc532-bin.

New versions matching future CMU versions will be added when needed.
Other useful sources and binaries, such as bnr2ss, libc, user
programs, etc. will be added as soon as they work well enough and
their uncontaminatedness has been verified.

There is a mailing list mach-532@cs.hut.fi for persons interested in
continued development of Mach for the pc532. To be added to the list
or to be removed from it, please send mail to mach-532-request@cs.hut.fi.

	Johannes
From: blumzi@TAURUS.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tahoe
Subject: Please take me out of the list !!!
Date: 22 Aug 92 10:17:53 GMT
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Thanks.

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From: chaim@netcom.com (Keith Johnson)
Subject: Re: FAQ
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 08:09:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: FAQ

Please excuse my ignorance, but isn't this newsgroup about that gorgeous
Lake of the Sky, Lake Tahoe?
From: jmc6182@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.M. Craig )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tahoe
Subject: Re: FAQ
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:46:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: ultb.1992Aug20.234620.18931
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: jmc6182@ultb

In article <wNwRPB1w164w@jwt.UUCP> bbs-airwick@jwt.UUCP writes:
>I know I just missed the post or something considering the
>messages recently have all to do with the FAQ.  But at risk of
>seeming like a real dork (sorry..just resubscribed to this
>newsgroup last week)...where is the FAQ?
>
>	Thanks in advance...
>		Airwick
>

	I bet you've never seen a tahoe, pal.
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From: saslpo@stevens.unx.sas.com (Len Olszewski)
Subject: Re: FAQ
Originator: saslpo@stevens.unx.sas.com
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:59:30 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <9208141108.AA03237@ansjovis.cwi.nl>, Sjoerd.Mullender@cwi.nl (Sjoerd Mullender) writes:
|> Am I the only who gets about a dozen copies of each message?  Ok, I'm
|> exaggerating a bit, but not much.
|>
|> Sjoerd Mullender
|> CWI, dept. CST, Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ Amsterdam, Netherlands
|> email: Sjoerd.Mullender@cwi.nl               fax:   +31 20 592 4199
|> phone: +31 20 592 4127                       telex: 12571 mactr nl

Yes, you're the only one. Please don't take it personally.

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From: jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (John G Dobnick)
Subject: Re: FAQ
Originator: jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: jgd@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:41:12 GMT

From article <Bszov6.7u8@unx.sas.com>, by saslpo@stevens.unx.sas.com (Len Olszewski):
> 
> In article <9208141108.AA03237@ansjovis.cwi.nl>, Sjoerd.Mullender@cwi.nl (Sjoerd Mullender) writes:
> |> Am I the only who gets about a dozen copies of each message?  Ok, I'm
> |> exaggerating a bit, but not much.
> |>
> Yes, you're the only one. Please don't take it personally.

No, he's not!  It seems that someone is feeding the mailing list back into
itself.  Maybe it's an overly zealous newsgroup-> mailing list gateway?

I generally get 4 copies of each message.
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From: mgm@clipper.ingr.com (Mike Marfell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tahoe
Subject: Re: FAQ
Keywords: FAQ
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:02:19 GMT
Organization: Intergraph Advanced Processor Division - Palo Alto, CA

In article <65271@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
> 
> Just what the heck is a FAQ?
> -- 
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> Internet: gt6390a@prism.gatech.edu


         It's a green hairy monster only found in the Himalayas.


                         * Just Kidding :-P *  

        FAQ = (Frequently Asked Questions) A list of questions and
answers.

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From: bbs-airwick@jwt.UUCP (Eric Van Hensbergen)
Subject: FAQ
Reply-To: bbs-airwick@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:39:07 GMT

I know I just missed the post or something considering the
messages recently have all to do with the FAQ.  But at risk of
seeming like a real dork (sorry..just resubscribed to this
newsgroup last week)...where is the FAQ?

	Thanks in advance...
		Airwick
From: Sjoerd.Mullender@cwi.nl (Sjoerd Mullender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tahoe
Subject: Re: FAQ
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:08:21 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Am I the only who gets about a dozen copies of each message?  Ok, I'm
exaggerating a bit, but not much.

Sjoerd Mullender
CWI, dept. CST, Kruislaan 413, 1098 SJ Amsterdam, Netherlands
email: Sjoerd.Mullender@cwi.nl		fax:   +31 20 592 4199
phone: +31 20 592 4127			telex: 12571 mactr nl
From: bob@netxcom.netx.com (Robert Thralls)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tahoe
Subject: FAQ...
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:50:15 GMT
Organization: NetExpress Inc., Vienna, VA, USA

In article <65271@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
> 
> Just what the heck is a FAQ?
> BERNSTEIN,AVRON P

Well, It is an acronym - what else would it appear to *BE*?    ;^o (moo)

no signature required.
From: steve@maths.warwick.ac.uk (Steve Rumsby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: Psion 3 - anybody writing anything?
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:32:24 GMT
Organization: Geometry Group, Maths Institute, Warwick University, UK.

In article <1992Aug12.125833.13053@sbil.co.uk>, rob@sbil.co.uk (Robert J Greenwood) writes:
>
> 1. Has anybody written a new "Agenda" yet?  I don't know about anyone else,
>    but my life doesn't consist of fixed length appointments (in fact bugger
>
My main gripe about the agenda is the fixed size repeat list. Only
being able to repeat 50 items is crazy. I've got more than 50 birthdays
I want to enter, never mind various regular meetings and stuff.

>
> 3. Anybody written a bitmap editor?  I wanna put some applications on the
>    system screen, but don't have any bitmaps (I use poxy simple ones now).
>
I made a start on one of these months ago, but never got very far.
I'm going to need some pretty icons soon, so maybe I'll ressurect
it. There just aren't enough hours in the day...

> If anybody has some time/patience get writing...  Whilst you're at it I'll
> have a UNIX version of the PC link s/w,
>
I phoned Psion a few weeks back trying to get details on the protocol
used by slink so I could do just that. They wouldn't tell me ("That
protocol has never been documented, sir". Yeah, sure.) But they did
say they would be shortly be releasing a library that implements the
protocol *in source code form*. This supposedly gives you everything
you need to write an slink server. The guy was kind of surprised when
I told him I didn't want to run this on a PC, but assured me that
it would work on my Sun. Hmmm. This is going to cost 50 or 60 quid
when it shows up. Maybe I'll just spy on an slink connection and see
if I can reverse engineer the protocol myself (and offer to sell
Psion a documented copy of it:-)

> a psion tetris,
>
I'd love one of these too. I've almost got a connect 4 program done.
I just need to find the time to stop it commiting suicide every once
in a while. Any other games about? I need something to keep me occupied
during staff meetings...

> a plug-in card with a London A-Z on it,
>
And navigation software, or course. Find the quickest route to
X from Y - that sort of thing.

> And some way of integrating the database with the spreadsheet.
>
How much free memory do you need to run the spreadsheet? All the
ads say it won't run on a 128K machine, but that surely doesn't
mean it uses more than 128K? How much does it take up with an
empty spreadsheet?

>  Don't want much do I?
>
What I want most is for the RAM and ROM cards to be cheaper. I've
got lots of stuff I'd like to keep on the machine, but having 1MB
RAM cards costing as much as the machine is a bit excessive. I'd really
like a 1MB RAM card and a 2MB Flash ROM card, but that's 500 quid:-(

Steve.
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Subject: Psion Link and DESQview
From: gilf@vms.huji.ac.il (GIL FREUND)
Date: 15 Aug 1992 12:47 IDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    Lines: 14

Has anyone  had any  luck installing  the Psion  3 link  software
under DESQview?  The file  server and  print server  seem to load
properly and work for a while, but then, with no apparent reason,
the connection is gone. The server programs windows then have  to
be "rebooted" as they will not close properly.
The programs use COM2, and COM4 is used by a label printer, but I
don't use the labeling program while connecting to the Psion.
Any  Idea  what  could  be  wrong,  or  what  setting (memory and
protection) should be set?

Thanks

Gil

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From: azilker@unixg.ubc.ca (Andreas Zilker)
Subject: HP 95LX wanted !!!
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 22:27:57 GMT

The headline says it all...
Either 512k or 1 MB version is fine. Serial cable would be good.
IMPORTANT: no severe scratches or dents :-)

Please make offers via e-mail

many adTHANKSvance

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From: akcs.mage@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (William H. Blohm)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:40:02 GMT
Subject: Re: HP 95LX and Kittyhawk.
Message-ID: <2a8c08ad.4760.2comp.sys.handhelds.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds

HP put out the Portable and Portable Plus machines and a laptop Vectra
as well as relabled Zenith products.  The P+ was a great machine, ran
forever on it's battery pack.  I don't know why they didn't move that
into the DOS market.  I mean, it was proprietary and the disk formats
were proprietary but they should have, INHO, made a Portable Plus DOS
machine.  That was a GREAT machine and ran for weeks in the field on
one charge.  Could have run for months, for all I know, but I never was
out in the wilds for more than several weeks at a shot while using it.
(OOPS--make that INHO IMHO).

From: akcs.ejf@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (edward joseph fasula)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:40:03 GMT
Subject: CE programs
Message-ID: <2a899349.4756comp.sys.handhelds@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Keywords: concrete beam program wanted!!

I've never seen a program that designs concrete beams for flexure and I
wish I could before I write one for my HP-48!  Can anyone please help!?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
From: adrian@cs.hw.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: P(sigh)on has made me cry again...
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:34:10 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <1992Aug12.124715.12847@sbil.co.uk> rob@sbil.co.uk writes:
>
>Pete Goodeve writes:
>>are making me feel a lot better:  1) The new one *is* version 1.80F,
>>(my previous was 1.77F) so *presumably* the cable problem is fixed(!);
>Are you saying it's a cable problem that took out the buttons?

I'm saying it's a cable problem that took out the buttons, and I got that
from Psion.  (Mind you, they also said they had fixed the problem. :-)
The fact that the problem starts out intermittent and then becomes
permanent is consistent with it being to do with the ribbon cable.

>Pete Goodeve also writes:
>>     in about a quarter hour all told, I was able to read the
>>necessary pages in the manual, fire up the link, and copy all my precious
>>data onto hard disk and back to the new machine!
>Buy a Flash RAM card and make it your default disk.  Swapping to the new
>machines are they arrive each month/week/day is much easier then (I've found).

One minor point here.  The card is either Flash or it is RAM.  Flash cards
are cheaper and more efficient with their use of space, and they are more
permanent.  Data in a Flash card will stay there, whether the card is in
the Series 3 or not.  You can't delete or alter data on a Flash card,
though.  (Well, you can, but deleting it just scrubs the data, it doesn't
get the space back; altering is basically the same as making a modified
copy and deleting the old copy, see above about deleting.)  RAM cards
have their own lithium batteries to retain data when they are outside
the Series 3, but when the lithium battery is gone, so is the data.
They are less efficient at their use of space, because creating a
directory - even an empty one - uses some space.  But you can write,
alter or delete data at leisure.

>Pete Goodeve writes again:
>>Tell me.  Is there *anyone* out there who has had a Psion 3 for, say,
>>more than three months that *is* still working? 

Mine must be about three months old, and is still working.  (Now that I've
written that, it'll probably stop. :-)

>Bernd Meyer writes:
>>I simply can not dial with it (only suceeded once or twice), despite of
>>being able to dial with my Macintosh and its speaker at the same phone.

I found that how you hold the Series 3 relative to the phone can have an
effect.  Holding the phone right up to the speaker did not work.  Holding
the phone up to the Series 3's case near the end, right up to one of the
SSD's but still on the underside, did work.

Repeated use of the buzzer for such things as dialling and alarms will,
of course, eat your batteries up. :-)

-- 
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From: rwoodsaj@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Instruction table for Sharp Wizards
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 09:13:48 GMT

I have just posted a document to comp.sys.handhelds which lists the
machine code instruction table for the Sharp PC-E500.  The information
presented in this document is also relevant to IQ/OZ-7000 series 
Sharp electronic organiser (Wizard) owners.  It may also be relevant to
other Wizard versions.

Enjoy! 
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From: frankel@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Adam Frankel)
Subject: WANTED:  HP-15C, broken editor, please write back
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: comp.sys.handhelds
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:16:20 GMT
From: pete@plutonium.CChem.Berkeley.EDU (Pete Goodeve)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds
Subject: Re: Psion Series 3 Version Number
Date: 14 Aug 1992 07:20:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: inet
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In  <8435@fuhainf.fernuni-hagen.de> (11 Aug),
Bernd Meyer (meyer@fuhainf2) writes:
>
> Version 1.80F/GER, Serial 124747, non-transparent screen-cover, not
> raised...

In  <1992Aug12.072752.8388@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au> (Wed, 12),
Ian Staples (ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au) writes:
>
|> >Paul Smee (smee@bristol.ac.uk) writes:
|>
|> I have a Psion with serial nr. 156448 , V1.80F and a matte screen surround.
|> A friend has serial nr. 124xxx , V1.80F and the transparent facing over the whole screen.
|>
> I have just been lent a Psion Series 3 unit by the local dealer in Cairns
> (Qld Australia) to try for a couple of days.
>
> It is serial number [EBA] 500334.
> It is version number 1.77F/ENG.

> The application buttons often need a fairly firm press or two to activate.
> (The Agenda one seems to have given up already!)
Uh oh...
>
> The screen had slight markings from the keys straight out of the box.  The
> screen surround is just plain grey plastic continuous with the rest of the
> facing inside the "lid".


Sigh... I guess I extrapolated from too few data points, when I suggested
you could determine its version from the appearance.

It also begins to sound as if there's no linear relation between version,
case design, and flat-cable (Apps buttons) reliabilty.  Strange that they're
so mixed up.  Makes things tough.

                                            -- Pete --

From: bayes@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Scott Bayes)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:12:44 GMT
Subject: Re: hp95\hp48 serial cable question
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.handhelds

> I hope the second times the charm.
> Does the hp95 have the same serial port as the 48?
> 
> thanks again,
> mike

The same cable connects my Mac to my son's 48SX and my 95LX quite happily.

ScottB
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From: grimaldo@tokyo.seri.philips.nl (Emilio Grimaldo)
Subject: Sharp PC-1500
Organization: Philips Semiconductors, The Netherlands 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:00:24 GMT

Hi,
   Maaany years ago I bought a Sharp PC-1500 (also known as Tandy PC-2), of
which I have never regretted buying. Unfortunately when I tried to get the
RS-232 interface it was already discontinued, I wonder if there is still a
place where I can buy it (price?) -fully functional,no damages- in case I
get interested.
	      Thanks,
			Emilio

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From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Subject: Re: An old Commodore calculator
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 05:34:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.205435.11305@Princeton.EDU> woodhams@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Michael Woodhams) writes:

>I hadn't even realised Commodore ever made calculators, or that they
>existed as long ago as 1974. What did they do before making the PET?

I've got two Commodore calcuators.  One is a C108, four function, 8
electroflorescent (blue) digits, a bit under five pounds.  AC power
only.  The other is a cute little "Minuteman" model MM3S, 8 LED digits,
AC adapter jack, and has been hacked up to use standard 9v batteries
rather than the dead rechargable.  This unit has the luxury of squares
AND square roots!  Hot stuff, for the 1970's.

I just turned on the larger of the two paperweights, and I notice that
digits are entered from the left to the rightmost position.  This is
the opposite of all the other (four) stand alone calculators in the
house and I think, most other calculators.  The latter machines scroll
the display right to left to make room for digits as they are entered.

Why is this?  I would think that not scrolling the display would be
easier on both the machine and the eyes.  The decimal point does
wander even if the number of decimal places is the same.
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