From: iota@agora.rain.com (David Friedman)
Subject: Re: JZ lands in a Hot LZ...
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 06:47:02 GMT

In article <Oct.2.08.10.09.1992.28715@romulus.rutgers.edu> kaldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.211901.28023@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>
>> Jeffrey B. Zurschmeide:
>
>>> Lot (he of the salty wife) sent his two daughters out to be raped by
>>> the perverse populace of Sodom 'n' Gomorrah when they rioted outside
>>> his door ... I guess that was acceptable then,
>
>Actually, it starts in Gen. 18, where the Lord appears to Abraham.
>Abraham encounters 3 men (one of them presumably the Lord) at his tent
>door.  He offers them a chance to get cleaned up and rested, and sets
>a table for them, and then the Lord promises Abraham a son through his
>wife Sarah (who is now far too old to have children).  As the three
>men left, Abraham took them along their way.  And then (it says) the
>men turned and went towards Sodom while the Lord talked with Abraham.
>It is here where Abraham bargained with God over Sodom and Gomorrah
>("if there be 10 righteous men found there, I will not destroy the
>city").
>
>Ch. 19 starts with 2 angels coming to the gate of Sodom at dusk
>(presumably 2 of the "men" who had visited Abraham earlier).  Lot
>meets them and offers to take them in for the night, but they say, no,
>they're going to spend the night in the street -- which is kind of
>like camping out in Central Park [or insert your typical high-crime
>area here] overnight.  Lot insists, and they come in with him.
>Meanwhile, the men of the city gather at Lot's door and ask for the 2
>visitors "so that they might 'know' them" [i.e., perform buggery upon
>them].  Lot then offers his 2 virgin daughters, but the Sodomites
>would have none of it (presumably like the denizens of the Castro
>district).  If Lot isn't giving up the 2 men, they're going to take
>him instead.  So the 2 angels smote the men of the city with blindness
>and told Lot to get out of the city because God is going to destroy
>it, and don't even look back.
>
>Lot leaves with his wife and daughters, God destroys the city, Lot's
>wife looks back and becomes a pillar of salt.  (And then Lot's
>daughters get him rip-roaring drunk and then "go in with him" to
>preserve his seed, because they thought there was no man left in the
>earth for them.)
>
>_THIS_ is what God thinks of homosexuality.  Let's get it right, why
>don't we?

No, this is what a Hebraic writer of the pre-Babylonian diaspora thought
of rapists.  God didn't destroy Sodom just because of their homosexuality.
The city was destroyed because of their lawlessness.  And it is fair to
say that the God of Genesis is one of man's greatest fictional creations, 
and one of the most inconsistent.


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