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From: davego@halcyon.com (Dave Oliphant)
Subject: Re: a little yarn about Diamond Comp. Products
Keywords: Diamond suck s3 stealth antios2
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:52:37 GMT

In article <1gatmmINNcvt@tamsun.tamu.edu> davidn@cs.tamu.edu (David E Nichols) writes:
>Let me tell you about Diamond.  I used to have a Trident, and they have had
>OS/2 2.0 support since 2.0 was in beta.  Then I got a new computer and a
>Stealth.  Cool, right?  Wrong.
stuff deleted>
>Anyway I am beginning to really get mad at Diamond.  Does anyone know if
>and when XGA-2 ISA cards will be produced, and about how much they will cost?
>Does anyone want to by a Stealth VRAM (it'll be in pieces).
>
>bye 
>David Nichols
>davidn@cs.tamu.edu
>
>--
>-----
>viruses are a language from outer space

For what's its worth, here's my .25 worth.  A couple of weeks ago, I
picked (very cheaply) a Diamond Stealth VRAM Hicolor card and a monitor.
Since this was the first color combination I had since purchasing OS/2
GA in May, I thought I'd give it a shot.  Everything installed (I
actually ended up installing from scratch 5 times in 7 days) OK, and
then I went in search of some svga drivers for my Stealth VRAM.

While perusing hobbes (ftp-os2.nmsu.edu) in /pub/os2/2.0/drivers I came
across a file called proii8.zip that mentioned something about Tseng
4000 support.  So I downloaded it, read the docs as much as possible,
did the installing specified, rebooted, and it worked!  My desktop came
up in svga mode of 1024x768x256.  It appears to me to be very fine.

Using a dos program called svga110 under dos, I am able to view gifs in
1024x768x256 mode.  Another gif dos viewer also (vpic, I think) works
very well.

It seems to work fine for me, but I have a few questions.  When I open
an OS/2 window, I only fills about a quarter of the screen.  I am not
able to grab the corner and extend it any more.  Shouldn't I be able to
make this window bigger.  Dos and OS2 full screens open in standard text
mode of 80x25, but I have seen a dos full screen in a graphics mode when
a gif viewer program bombed and left me in hi-resolution mode, even
though scrolling was very slow.

Another thing, the icons appear very tiny.  I have found out how to get
the icon editor to edit in 64x64 mode (256 colors) but haven't figured
out how to make these icons appear on the desktop, or how to attach them
to any program, or even see them once I supposedly have saved them.  Any
one figure this out yet?

As I said, my .25 worth.


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (Jeremy Mathers)
Subject: Can OS/2 run full size windows in small windows?
Summary: (I.e., using scalable fonts...)
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:03:06 GMT

A la DV/X or Windoze 3.1 in Enhanced mode...

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: jmalloy@itsmail1.hamilton.edu (Joseph T. Malloy)
Subject: Re: Future of OS/2 and IBM????????????
Organization: Hamilton College - Clinton, NY
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:30:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.012947.13106@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pprior@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul A Prior) writes:
>As for all this IBM stock stuff, I think it's pretty obvious that anybody
>who is selling IBM stock right now (and there is a lot of it) is about 
>as stupid as you can be.  
>
>If I had -any- money, I'd be buying IBM stock YESTERDAY!  Come on, a 
>blue chip like big blue at it's lowest point in a decade?  And people
>are -selling-?  Do these people think IBM is going to go bankrupt or
>something???
>
>Don't reply, this is just a comment.  The end.
>
Don't reply indeed!

Actually, I had been thinking along the same lines as you (not that I
have any money to invest this way, mind you, but just wishing...).
After all, buy low, sell high is the way to do it, right?  But I
happened to hear precisely this question (about IBM) put to an
investment specialist on an NPR radio program today, to wit, shouldn't
one buy IBM now that it's so low?  The answer (well, maybe the
respondent was an evil Windows owner, who knows?) was that doing so
would be advisable for such an unstable stock (my words because I cannot
recall the original) only if such a corporation's management were fully
aware of the problems they are facing and the adviser in this case
wasn't really sure that IBM's management was fully aware of their
problems and what to do about them.

The wording, imprecise though it may be, is accurate enough to convey
the message.  Frankly, I was surprised, but if you've got the money,
this might be an interesting risk.

jmalloy@hamilton.edu
From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Lockup
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:39:29 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Dec16.144522.23492@panix.com> os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.) writes:
>Open the desktop settings and go to the lockup page.  It is a screen saver
>that requires a password to restore the desktop.

Lockup does not automatically blank the screen if the desktop is not
visible.  Which means you need a separate screen saver for full-screen
sessions.  It's not a problem for me, since I manually lock the screen
before leaving the computer anyway, but it may be an important
consideration.  I use ScreenMagic in Win-OS2 full-screen sessions in
order to blank the screen from them.

Note also that if you forget your Lockup password, you'll have to
re-boot the computer to change it.  While the screen is locked, you
can not escape back to PM, and CTRL-ALT-DEL is captured.  I don't know
if you can change the Lockup password without knowing the old one, I
think you can, though.
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From: hawat@hawat.abg.sub.org (Andreas Kellner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: COM3 and COM4 in OS2? (FAQ solution doesn't work)
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:50
Organization: APL II Host Augsburg, Germany

hamilton@eng.umd.edu (Andrew W. Hamilton) writes:
> I'd like to use COM3 and COM4 with my OS2 setup, but the solution
> in the FAQ about adding the COM3 and 4 specs to config.sys has the
> effect of disabling the DOS emulator.  Hence no dos programs or
> prompts can be launched.  All I get is a message saying something
> about not enough memory (I have 8 Megs).  Does someone have any
> additional clues?

Remove the aditional settings in the config.sys. The system should show
the message "Comx cannot be initialised - Interrupt level not reachable"
(or so) while booting the system.

Now use the x00 (x00149a: Os/2 Version) fossil driver to remap the
comports (e.g. "x00 0=COM3") before you start your application.
Dont forget to unistall the dirver (simply "x00") after app has ended.

It works fine for me.


Hope this helps

Andy

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                   Andreas Kellner (hawat@hawat.abg.sub.org)

                          APL II - Beyond the future
From: enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 Text Screen Editor?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:11:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62711.student.cwru.edu

Does there exist an OS/2 text screen editor (for use when booting off of
floppies).  I would like to run HPFS, but if it dies, I want to look at
some files with an editor.  Any suggestions?
From: phil@venus.engr.ucdavis.edu (Phillip W. Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: SVGA questions
Date: 6 Dec 92 19:04:50 GMT
Organization: UC Davis


6 Dec 1992

Hi people,
I have some video questions that I can't seem to find
information for (yes, I checked the faq!)

First the background... I was running at 1024x768x256 using the
SP's ET4000 drivers. However, when I tried to run Word 4.0 and
MS Works windowed, the error message said that the resolution
requested was not available. (Any one know why?) Anyway, so I
then used Selective Install to try to downgrade the video to
800x600x256 (which used to work). After grinding through the
disks, it hung! I tried to reboot, and did, but when OS/2 came
up, a blank screen, nothing. So, using the 3 disk emergency
method, I managed to gain access to the OS/2 HPFS disk. It seems
that when the system hung, it killed the svgadata.pmi file (it
was zero length). Now come the questions...

1] It seems to me, that the lack of the pmi file caused the video
to come up blank. Am I correct in this assumption? 

2] If so, how would one regenerate such a pmi file? I tried SVGA
ON under regular DOS5.0 and it said it could not recoginize my
video card (ProDesigner IIs).

3] If I can't generate a new pmi file in an emergency, is there
a way to force OS/2 to use regular VGA so at least I could bring
the system up and use the Selective Install to undo my own
damage?

Thanks for reading this!

-phil
(phil@venus.engr.ucdavis.edu)

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: Doug_Barlow@Novell.COM (Doug Barlow)
Subject: OS/2 2.1 supporting windows enhanced mode (was: Re: Good OS/2 news) 
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:39:58 GMT

In article <1gqh42INN1j9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell) writes:
>
>In a previous article, haen@veces.stgt.sub.org (Herbert Neugebauer) says:
>
>>In article <1gkrggINN9ie@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell) writes:
>>>
>>>The 12/14/92 pc had several bits of good news for os/2 2.0.
>>>
>>>The first is that os/2 2.1 is close to being finished and that it will
>>>support windows enhanced mode applications under winos2.
>>                 ^^^^^^^^
>>                 
>>Are your sure about that, someone said previously, that
>>this will not be supported, only standard mode.
>
>While IBM has not announced 386 enhanced mode support, from where I'm
>sitting, it looks like they are trying hard to include it.


Check out PC WEEK, December 14th, page 3: "IBM readying OS/2 version 2.1"

Basically it says that bug fixes, enhancements including Win 3.1 support, 
Multimedia Presentation Manager/2, and 386 enhanced-mode application 
support will be included in the "upgrade" to be released next month.  
Apparently, this information came from some beta testers.

The article also said that IBM is working on a microkernel-based OS called
Workplace OS.  No other information was given.

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Novell, Inc.  Provo, UT
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: hartzman@kilroy.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Les Hartzman)
Subject: ATI Ultra Plus and OS/2:  Is it possible???
Followup-To: hartzman@kilroy.jpl.nasa.gov
Keywords: ati ultra plus, os/2
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:09:27 GMT

We've just received these new ATI cards, but we can't seem to get them running
yet.  Two people that have tried to install them keep having their systems
hang under BOTH DOS and OS/2.  One of the key factors here is that the systems
have 16MB of RAM and the ATI cards have 2MB of VRAM also.

It seems that if you just put the card in the system, it will come up in
regular VGA mode.  But once you try to run the install program, the horror
begins.

If anyone has successfully installed this ATI card, I'd appreciate it if you
could send me the procedure you used to get it to work.  I figure it should
work in the 8514 mode, but I'll be happy to start out in VGA at this point.

Thanks in advance.

Les



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Jet Propulsion Laboratory   M/S 238-528    (818) 354-5964
4800 Oak Grove Dr., Pasadena,  CA.  91109
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Help with Networking?
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.networking
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:41:41 GMT

In article <1gb55hINNo5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> jme4@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Ehrlinger) writes:
>	I've been looking for help getting a computer to print over a
>network.  When we installed OS/2 there is no Network folder. Is there a
>way to create one?  Do I have the wrong software?  If I do have the
>right stuff, how do I get the OS to recognize it?  I have very little
>networking experience.  If I am not providing enough info, please ask
>for what else I can give you.  
>	The system is a 486/33 with 16 MBytes 210 M HD and an ethernet
>card.  I am not at the machine right now, so I don't have the net
>software at hand.

What sort of network are you trying to attach to?

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From: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger)
Subject: Re: NEC Pinwriter P20 driver?
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 02:06:49 GMT

Timothy F. Sipples (sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Dec10.151904.17559@unix.brighton.ac.uk> je@unix.brighton.ac.uk (John English) writes:
: >Is there a driver for a NEC Pinwriter P20 anywhere? I'm having to
: >pretend it's an Epson, which sort of works, but I get weird font
: >changes sometimes -- oh well, it's not really an Epson, so am I
: >surprised?
: 
: You should try a variety of Epson drivers.  Your manual should state
: which Epson printer it emulates -- try that model's driver first.  If
: that doesn't work, try one of the "generic" 9-pin or 24-pin Epson
: drivers.
: 

I asked about NEC drivers a while back also, and got the same response "use
an epson driver" Yes, I know my P5300 can emulate an epson, but it does not
work as well as using a true NEC driver under Windows.

I just wish I could get native OS/2 support for an NEC printer.

Russ Poffenberger               DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com
Schlumberger Technologies ATE   UUCP:   {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen
1601 Technology Drive		CIS:	72401,276
San Jose, Ca. 95110             Voice: (408)437-5254  FAX: (408)437-5246
From: enk2@po.cwru.edu (Erik Kovach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Wow, those Trident Drivers do work!
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:22:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62711.student.cwru.edu

In article <Gary.Woodman.897.724287330@anu.edu.au> Gary.Woodman@anu.edu.au (Gary Woodman) writes:

>Look for IMSHOW and have GIF images in tiny PM windows :-)

Or run WinGIF (Windows program) seamlessly.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programming
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Which CD-ROM Drive.
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:45:43 GMT

In article <Bz5oxv.5LJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> utter@acsu.buffalo.edu (William M. Utter) writes:
>	I'm in the market for a CD-ROM drive and I don't have a SCSI
>interface.  Which CD-Rom Drive will work with OS/2?  Thanks.

Check the file os2cdrom.zip, available via anonymous ftp from
ftp-os2.nmsu.edu.  Then choose from those listed.

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From: teague@a.cs.okstate.edu (Keith Teague)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Which Tape Drive for OS/2?
Date: 19 Dec 92 02:23:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: a.1992Dec19.022330.408
Organization: Oklahoma State University

From article <8187@lib.tmc.edu>, by jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard):
> In article <1992Dec17.231529.23670@a.cs.okstate.edu> teague@a.cs.okstate.edu (Keith Teague) writes:
>>Does anybody have any further info on getting the Irwin Accutrac drive and
>>EZtape for PM to work with the latest (GA+CSD) release of OS/2. It fails
>>to operate correctly for me using either the latest beta (11/92 PDK) and
>>the GA+CSD release of OS/2.
> 
> What kind of problems? I'm running an Accutrak 250 just fine, on a vanilla
> XR06055 level system. I'm using the floppy controller (there's a 4100A in my
> future, I hope; it'd be nice to have two floppy drives again!), and EZTape/PM
> version 3.1. (Not 3.01.)
> -- 
> Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
>  "Brought to you by the letters O, S, and by the number 2." -- Mike Levis

The CSD AND HI-RES VIDEO DRIVERS seem to have created some problems for
EZTape/PM 3.1. I called Irwin (Maynard) and they are aware of the problem
but have no projected date for a fix - they don't even know what is
causing them.

For me, I am now having problems with "uncompress buffer overflow" and, 
sometimes, a failure for EZTape to even startup - it puts up the OS/2
error screen and asks if I want to end the program or get a register
dump. The register dump points to an EZTape .dll file (I don't remember
the name right now) and reports an access violation.

I have had these problems with BOTH the GA+CSD+hi-res drivers and the 11/92
PDK beta. Removing the hi-res drivers SEEMS to cure the problems. However,
it is difficult to run enough tests to make sure that the problem is
really gone (I have been testing by trying to restore a 34MB DOS partition
and that takes about 12 minutes). In any case, I am usually never able
to complete a restore if the hi-res (Trident, I should mention) drivers
are loaded. I am aware of others who are also having this problem.

Any suggestions?

Keith Teague
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin)
Subject: Re: Why does DOS (Telix, AutoCAD, etc.) use 100%
Organization: University of Maine, Department of Computer Science
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:42:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.063549.9256@netcom.com> samiam@netcom.com (Scott Moore) writes:
>rem5156@zeus.tamu.edu (The Doctor) writes:
>
>>..does anyone know why my system maxes out to 100% when I use Telix, or OrCAD
>>or AutoCAD in a DOS full-screen session?
>
>Apparently pulse gets confused with dos/windows tasks. The CPU useage as 
>displayed is not correct.

Well, pulse is only as confused as your DOS apps.  DOS apps tend to poll
the keyboard in a tight loop, such as:

	while NOT User_hit_key
		do_small_chunk_of_background_processing();

Even if it has nothing to do in the background (with Autocad it might
be drawing something large or computing, while checking for your next
keystroke), it will still check to see if you hit a key or check to
see if it has something to do.  

This (I think) is one of the biggest uses of threads.  One thread will
be waiting for a key (not polling, but waiting via an OS/2 DosKbdxxx call)
while another thread is running and processing your request.

Pulse doesn't realize that nothing is being done in your dos app, it just
knows that your dos app is doing something.  You can change how much time
OS/2 gives to a dos app in the IDLE_SENSITIVITY and IDLE_SECONDS settings.

Jeff
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: MMPM/2 MIDI drivers for MPU 401?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 22:26:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.072745.13155@nuscc.nus.sg> matcsp@nuscc.nus.sg (Chan Shih-Ping) writes:
>Subject says all: is such a thing available?

I thought they were bundled with MMPM/2 (for at least one MPU-401
adapter).  Am I mistaken?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mkohtala@lesti.hut.fi (Marko Kohtala)
Subject: Re: IBM won't accept Internet problem reports any more
Keywords: IBM problem report compuserve cis
Reply-To: Marko.Kohtala@hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:34:06 GMT

In <1gklknEINN1gt@uni-erlangen.de> hmkirchh@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Hans-Joachim Kirchhoff) writes:

>Since CIS charges the RECIPIENT of a message from the internet (IBM in this
>case), I am not very astonished. It is several cent you have to pay for
>the message, depending on the size. I don't know how many messages they
>received from I-Net, but I would imagine, it must have been quite some
>$$ worth.

So why do they not have address on Internet where the bug reports can
be sent? They DO have Internet connection.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,misc.invest
From: jld@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (J. L. David)
Subject: Re: Future of OS/2 and IBM????????????
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:07:54 GMT
Followup-To: misc.invest

In article <1992Dec17.134511.18616@csi.uottawa.ca>, gagnon@aix1.uottawa.ca (Jean-Serge Gagnon 564-7183) writes:
> In article <1992Dec16.152535.12204@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> hwhalen@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Hugh Whalen) writes:
> >
> >Ahem .... stable? I believe that around 1987 IBM stock was trading at 
> >approximately $178 per share. Yesterday it was trading at $56 per 
> >share. God help us if this is stability. :)
> 
> This doesn't belong here, but I wish people would talk when they knew what
> they were talking about!!!! Have you ever heard of "spliting"? It's a 
> process in which a stock is doubled, and it's value is divided. For example
> an IBM share that was worth $178 in 1985 would split and then you'd have
                                      ^^^^
He said 1987, not 1985.

> two shares, each worth $89, which is exactly the same thing. Since the time
> when the share was worth $178, IBM shares have split twice, meaning that
> whoever had one (1) share worth $178, today has four (4) shares worth $56.
> In other words, this person has $224 for a cost of $178 (or less, of course).
> 
NOT!  IBM hit a split-adjusted high of 175 7/8 in 1987.  Your math is right,
but your information is wrong.  IBM has not split since then.  It's stock
price is, in fact, less than 1/3 of its 1987, all-time high after adjusting
for splits.  By the way, I have the information from an S&P Stock Guide
in front of me so you'd better have a good source if you are going to 
contradict the above.  IBM's 20-year price range (adjusting for all splits)
has been 175 7/8 to 37 5/8.

> So PLEASE, make sure you know what you're talking about, before saying
> something so drasticaly influential to the minds of people who REALLY have
> no idea what it means other that money.
> 
You would be advised to follow your own advice.

Jeff David

Real followups to misc.invest.
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