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From: mhorbove@digi.lonestar.org (Mike)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: texas #20???
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:42:11 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications, Plano Tx.


>From: crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins)
>
>We're there any significant injuries Saturday during the Texas Tech
>game? If so, what is their status for the T.C.U. game?
>To be specific, Peter Gardere's elbow, I have heard many rumors.
>Also, anybody know about any T.C.U. injuries?
>
>Hook 'em Horns!!!
>-Chris (#25 to #20, is #15 next???)
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

believe me, texas does not deserve to be ranked #15, nor #20.  beating
tech, tcu (this week), smu (next week)...doesn't mean a thing.  now, if
texas would have beaten miss st. and syracuse then i would say yes rank
them around #15.  texas hasn't beat anyone they shouldn't have.  as for
a&m, they are not a #5 team.  i would like to see them play someone other
than louisville this week.  they definitely need to add better football
teams to their schedule.  if they want to be respected, they need to add
ranked teams to their schedule.  don't get me wrong, they have a decent
football team but #5....i don't think so.

mike

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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Rice vs. Baylor (was: Re: Trevor Cobb 6, Lloyd Hill 0)
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:59:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.182311.16671@hou.amoco.com> zcjm0f@nvplota.uucp (CJohn  
Mace) writes:
> 
> >Baylor plays on turf...  and I bet you don't run very fast in a quagmire
> >either.
> 
> That'll teach me to type fast...  turf = *turf... as in artificial surface.
> cmuck

Well, probably not.  But it should teach me to avoid the items that
the Duke SID prepares for the media.  The "Game Notes" in the Duke
program indicate that Baylor has grass. 

Then Rob Butera writes:

> Huh?  I was at Baylor last weekend for the (heartbreaking) Baylor-GT
> game.  Baylor's got artificial.  I think the whole SWC has turf.
> Anyway, the game is at Rice.

But, the "1992 Rice Owls Football" media guide indicated that 
Armon G. Carter Stadium at Texas Christian has Natural Grass Turf.
So the Duke people must have confused TCU and Baylor, unless a
change is in the works...


************* "How about a little fire, Scarecrow?" **************
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From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: The Eagles have landed (and State of Coll...)
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:04:29 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <1992Nov8.182212.15956@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> tino@yogi.metray (Vinny Tino) writes:


| my top 5 
| 1. Miami, Fla
| 2. Alabama
| 3. Michigan
| 4. Florida State
| 5. Washington

My Top 5
 1. Miami, Fla
 2. Florida State
 3. Alabama
 4. Texas A&M 
 5. Michigan


| 
| BTW, where are all those folks woofing that Washington teams will have fewer 
| losses than FSU and Miami...(We don't acknowlege UF as humans, nevermind 
| a football team)            


Only a gator could love a gator.

Since the lezzards won't play Miami,  you guys have to put a extra whipping
on them for us.

Go Noles kick the lezzards into Georgia.
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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: WAR OVER!!!! MIAMI WINS !!!!!!
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 14:15:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <BxF1vp.LJo@cs.psu.edu> jdh@math.psu.edu (Jeremy D Hall) writes:
>
>WAR OVER - NOT!!!

Well, the "WAR" is over, that being the Miami vs Washington #1 argument.

>Sorry, but how about this:  
>
>Alabama cruises through the SEC, going undefeated.  Let's say, for some reason,
>Miami goes undefeated.  Now, it'll probably be Miami as #1, 'Bama as #2.  Is
>it possible for the Hurricanes and the Crimson Tide to face each other in a
>Bowl? (This Bow(e)l Alliance still has me confused...)

Yes they can, and if both teams go undefeated, this is the likely scenario.

>
>Also, don't forget...Miami has to face the Orangemen of Syracuse at the Carrier
>Dome.  As much as I despise SU, I think they've got the best chance of ending
>Miami's little reign of terror.

I really don't think SU has the overall strength to match the Canes.  I do 
think that an Alabama/Miami game would be VERY interesting.. 
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From: mln@sunkj.larc.nasa.gov (Michael L Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Va Tech and UVa predictions
Date: 5 Nov 1992 22:26:13 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
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Keywords: the vanishing cavs...

Last Week:

predicted: Va Tech 17 Rutgers 10
actual: Ruttgers 50 Va Tech 49

predicted: FSU 27 UVa 20
actual: FSU 13 UVa 3

total: 9-5-1

Va Tech @ Syracuse

Well, SU outguns the hokies in just about every position,
and I don't see how they could possibly rebound after
the heart breaker against RU.  One wonders if the hokies'
problem is not really depth, but coaching.  Frank Beamer
has got to realize that a football game has *4* quarters -
not 3.  If they had beat RU, I would think they could give
SU a game.  Let SU look towards next week, it won't matter
much for this game.  Any good numbers put up by DeShazo and
company last week is simply because both teams defenses were
only allowed 9 men.  Va Tech will sputter against SU.

Syracuse 41 Va Tech 9

NC State @ Virginia

I think the time is right for Dick to get a win against George.
NCSU is a pretty decent team, but they will have to contend
with an unleashed Kirby.   Kirby will be very hungry after 
watching his team slide for this long.  NCSU also has to make
sure that Goodman does get his act together.  This could be
close, and UVa has to win this one and the Va Tech game to 
get a bowl bid.  This could be tight.  But I'm hoping...

NCSU 23 Virginia 20

Michael Nelson

Go Hokies!  Go Wolfpack!
From: mcdowell@hoss.unl.edu (Scott McDowell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Nebraska defeats Colorado
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:21:50 GMT
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In <1992Nov5.150126.27408@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson) writes:
>doubt that. But what you are not considering is that Frazier is a frosh, Jones
>and Brown are Sohp's and the Huskers just keep bringing out new generations of

minor correction, I believe Brown is a Junior.

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From: v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: I-AA Report for Nov. 14, 1992 (1/3): Scores and Schedules
Date: 12 Nov 92 16:48:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov11.054535.4364@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn) writes...
#Central Florida 63  Buffalo 11          The Citadel 32  Newberry 14
                             ^^
I know we got blown out, but at least give us the credit we're due!  The
Bulls high-scoring offense managed 21 in this one.  Now if we can only find
a defense, we won't be losing games like this one and the Lafayette (49-28),
Morgan State (45-27), and Colgate (35-21) ones by such huge margins.  I 
think we also lost the New Haven game by 60-something to 40-something )-;

___

Timothy C. Pitts             
Canada US Trade Center
Department of Geography
University at Buffalo        
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From: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Subject: Re: Nebraska beats Colorado
Reply-To: m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (VMS Software Support - Colorado)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:33:18 GMT

--
>Boy, I've seen it all now.  A Nebraska fan sticking up for a Colorado fan.
>Life on the net, I guess.  Sigh....

This is not a problem for Susan from Pittsburgh. She is one of the nicest
of folks on the net!!

Husker Henderson
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From: lein@cat.uucp (John Leinaweaver)
Subject: what if....
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway NJ
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 17:54:30 GMT

What if Miami loses leaving Alabama and Texas A&M the only undefeated
teams in the cartel.  Would they be allowed to play each other
someplace?

John L
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From: mchenry@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Subject: Re: NCSU AND THE BLOCKBUSTER: 2 GAMES 2 GO!!! :)
Reply-To: mchenry@BAEPV4.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:43:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.084022.11421@ncsu.edu>, delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:
>
>
>
>  Barring some freak loss to the Blue Devils or the Deacons (which still
> is possible), NCSU is looking at a Penn State matchup. This game will be
> a great one, and I look forward to the opportunity to see the game..
> 
>  The next best bowl is a NCSU-Georgia matchup in the Gator Bowl, which is
> also possible, if we scrape by either team. Al in all, we were 4 points 
> away from the best season ever.. :)
>
> 
>

I think you may have it reversed I think the Pack will get Georgia and
the Gator if they win both of their remaining games or get the
Blockbuster if they lose one of them(I don't know what would happen
if they lost both).

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If only they had been as good when I lived in Buffalo.



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From: chuckd@cpqhou.compaq.com (Chuck Dickson)
Subject: Re: MS State, Florida, Bama
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 14:23:15 GMT

in article <BILLMS.92Nov10175152@gip.eecs.umich.edu>, billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) says:
> 
> That wasn't the issue David.  The claim was made that (miami, bama, mich)
> play some division II schools.  This is not true, and I was calling you guys
> on it.
> 
> Bill
> --

I'm not sure about Bama and Michigan, but Miami DOES play some division II 
schools, or what is usually referred to as division II on this net (that is
Division I-AA).  Remember FAMU?


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From: tron@tc.fluke.COM (Peter Barbee)
Subject: Re: WAR OVER!!!! MIAMI WINS !!!!!!
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:55:12 GMT

In article <26054@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
>this season huh? They'll most likely go to the Rose Bowl but everyone
>knows who really is the best in the Pac....

Well, I was sure it was either Washington State...or maybe you mean that
Oregon State is co-best in the Pac-10....

Coming back to earth.  Hats off to the Wildcats.  They won the game and
it wasn't an upset.  But it wouldn't be an upset if they were to play
again tomorrow and the Huskies were to win.

The keys to the game were that the Huskies turned the ball over three
times inside the 30, leading to two UA fieldgoals as UA got but one first
down.  And two of the turnovers were unforced.  Add to that the holding
calls inside the five on Huskie drives and the muffed snap on a field
goal (following a dropped TD pass).

On the other hand teams make their own breaks and thus Arizona deserves
credit.  The 17 play 74 yard drive (to a field goal) spanning the 3rd and
4th qtrs was when Arizona proved they deserved victory.  17 plays and
74 yards; ball control; fatigue for the Huskie defense; gritty,
determined play.  

So the Wildcats won and deserved it.  But _if_ the Huskies go to the Rose
Bowl they'll deserve that too.  

Peter B
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From: jbs@cs.arizona.edu (John B. Slankas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Notre Dame vs. Miame was (Re: Open Question to Miami fans)
Date: 13 Nov 92 05:53:55 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Nov12.171026.25235@schbbs.mot.com> C14577@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Debra Sullivan) writes:
>what wimps those Irish are!  God knows they should get anything they
>want.  I would love to see them play Miami but I know it will never
>happen, Miami would KILL them.

Just out of curiousity what was the last team to be Miami? (Which I believe
happened in 1990?)
From: tomscud@ruf.rice.edu (Thomas Reid Scudder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: USC Band (again)
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:45:43 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <1dmr5bINN7dn@spica.usc.edu> valdis@spica.usc.edu (Valdis Kalejs) writes:
>to talk about ours. Which band would you be proud of? 1. A band that has made
>numerous TV and movie appearances, or one that had done a halftime show some-
                 ^^^^^
Loved the lip-synch to "Louie Louie" in _The Naked Gun_.
(or is it "march-synch"?)


-- 
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"It's 106 miles to Chicago, we have a full tank of gas, a half pack of
cigarettes, it's dark, and we're wearing sunglasses."
"Hit it."
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From: pbwhite@rodan.acs.syr.edu (White)
Subject: The Big Easty
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 15:29:29 EST

Just a clue to all you fans who call the Big East the Big Easty...

Only one conference with three teams in the top 10 this week.

Bowl Picture update :  Hall of Fame Bowl just signed a one year contract
  with the Big East to pick up the third place finisher

Look - Bama's good and Michigan is good - we ain't gonna end this argument
  very soon.
However, My heart is with Michigan

Go Wolverines !!!!


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From: mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak)
Subject: Re: Torretta for the Heisman?
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 22:04:36 GMT

>> Just read in the paper that Torretta is considered in the top three for
>> the Heisman.  From an article by Ken Rodriguez for Knight-Ridder Tribune
>> News Service:
>> 
>>      .... With Torretta completing 28 of 40 passes in a 35-23 victory,
>>      ESPN pumped him for the Heisman like a favorite son, flashing
>>      statistical comparisons with Faulk (60 yards rushing Saturday) and
>>      Hearst (41 yards rushing) throughout its telecast.
>>           Analyst Lee Corso said, "Don't waste your vote.  Vote for Gino
>>      Torretta.  He's the only candidate who can win."
>>           Cook said, "Put a gun to my head.  Torretta is going to win it."
>> 
>> 
>> Also there's this gem from Don Criqui:  "The leader is Torretta.  He leads
>> the country in the most important stat:  wins."
>> 
>> 
>> I'm not intending to offend Miami fans, but EXSQUEEZE ME?  Based on one
>> $#%**  game?!  By Criqui's standards, maybe PSU's QB from the 1986 season
>> should have won the Heisman.  What about Bama's QB?  And everyone says
>> Notre Dame has an Heisman media bias.  I guess what we've got now is the
>> dreaded MQHMB:  the Miami Quarterback Heisman Media Bias.
>> 
>> Puleeze... if anyone on Miami deserves the Heisman, give it to the defense.
>> They won their two biggest games.
>> 
>
>	I guess a big problem is that the players who are supposed to 
>contend this year namely Marshall Faulk have failed to perform consistently.
>And I personally have not been able to see anyone else who should be
>considered for the award.  Torretta's numbers are not convincing to many
>people, but who else is there to contend for Heisman?  

If you really believe that no one has performed consistently, take a look
at Reggie Brooks of Notre Dame.  Of course, we can't have another ND winner,
but I'm sure many r.s.f.c. readers could name favorites of theirs who
have performed well and consistently.  


>
>	This year is not exactly a banner year for the Heisman crop.  
>Unlike last year where you have Howard of Michigan, Weldon of FSU, 
>Etman of Washington, among others, these players made a lot of impact and
>put up good numbers.  
>
>	If this year's Heisman cadidates continue at this pace, I think
>Torreta might just have the Heisman gift wrapped and mailed to him because
>no one earned it and Torreta happen to lead the field at the point in time.
>
>	Oh Well!
>
>- Chung Yang
>

It looks like just more of the media overhyping crap we've seen with
respect to the Heisman and MNC for so many years.  Oh well is right.




-- 
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From: weiser@pogo.den.mmc.com (Matt Weiser)
Subject: Re: Nebraska defeats Colorado
Organization: Martin Marietta WIS
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:24:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov09.195309.98573@evolving.com>, pranav@evolving.com (Pranav Vakil) writes:
> 
> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
> : In article <1992Nov6.221352.13647@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com> m_henderson@csc32.enet.dec.com (Marty Henderson) writes:
> : >
> : >No but You must admit that the town slants drastically left.
> : 
> : Maybe, but it's still better than being a redneck hangout like Lincoln!
> : 
> : >Man, when you get beat like that just take it, keep your mount shut (you have
> : 							^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> : you mean mouth?
> : 
> : >Husker Henderson
> : 
> : Njan
> 
> Good Njan, when you can't find anything else to pick on, pick on the people 
> and the city and petty typos.  Why cant you learn to keep your mouth shut.  
> Nebraska beat us.  Correction, Nebraska clobbered us.  Time to focus on the 
> Jayhawks and put this game behind us as a learning experience.  
> 
> To all netters (especially Marty and Skip), I apologize on behalf of semi-
> rational (you have to be semi-rational when it comes to NU  :-)  ) CU fans for
> the postings by Njan.  Not all CU fans are like him. 
> 
> Personally, I hope Nebraska wins its remaining games.  It would be nice to see
> a Big 8 school in the top five at the end of the year.  As for playing Miami 
> in the Orange Bowl, its not going to happen. Miami will probably end up playing 
> Alabama in the Sugar Bowl to decide the National Championship (sorry TAMU). 
> 
> --Pranav 
>   (GO BUFFS!)
> 
> PS: This does not mean that my personal opinion of NU has changed. Its just 
>     that you have to give credit to the Cornhuskers for beating CU and KU in 
>     consecutive weeks. 
> 
> 
> -- 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Pranav Vakil   --   Evolving Systems, Inc.   --   Email: pranav@evolving.com
> 		     Disclaimer: My opinions are my own. 
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------

Agreed.  I hope that Nebraska rolls over the last 3 teams and finally wins on
New Years Day.  I still hate Nebraska, but the way they are playing right now
deserves my respect.  I want to see Nebraska, CU and KU win their bowls this 
year, and I want to see every blue chip recruit come to this conference.  I
really love the level of competition that the Big 8 has to offer -- OU will
not be down for long, and if KU can keep it up, the future will look great!
Nebraska right now is poetry in motion -- loco - motion -- and they deserve
everything they are getting.  And it hurts really bad to say so.

Matt Weiser
weiser@pogo.den.mmc.com
Bring on KU - Go Buffs!


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From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Udub??  What is a "udub"???
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 12:16:08 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.151715.7543@makesys.com>, john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:

> BTW is this the reason Arizona kicked Udubs ASS this weekend? UW is the best
                                        ^^^^^

Ok, we learned what a "t-sip" was a few months ago, what the heck does
"udub" mean??  I know it is a some sort of Washington put-down, but
where/how did it originate?

Just curious.....

-- 
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From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: How CU could still win the Big 8 (hee hee)
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:58:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: mccall.1992Nov5.085825
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Distribution: na
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Nov4.225138.17070@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee) writes:
>my apologies. Nebraska must lose to Oklahoma and either a) tie Kansas or 
>2) lose to Kansas, provided Kansas also loses to Missouri. 
>
>I'm hoping for a Poulan Weedeater Independence Bowl appearance myself for 
>CU. It's merely 5.5 hours from my house.
>
I doubt it.  Look for Neb to go to the Orange Bowl, winner of the 
KU-CU game into the coalition pot, loser to the Aloha Bowl.  Unless
CU loses to KU and OSU, while OSU wins the rest and takes third.
OU could also squeeze into third. But, I doubt any bowl will want a 
4th place Big8 team.
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