From: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: [l/m 10/13/92] Phone/address list	Distilled Wisdom (7/28) XYZ
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Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 12:20:12 GMT
Reply-To: eugene@amelia.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)

Panel 7

We do not vouch for the currency of this list.  When in doubt, ask telephone
information.

USGS Map Sales
Federal Center
P.O. Box 25286
Denver, CO   80225
303-236-7477

Customer Service Numbers
 
Cascade/Thermarest          1-206-583-0583
Casio                       1-201-361-5400
Camp Trails                 1-800-847-1460
Caribou                     1-800-824-4153
Coleman/Peak I              1-316-261-3274
Columbia Clothing           1-503-289-8736
Champion Clothing           1-800-233-4410
Duofold                     1-800-448-8240
Eastpak                     1-508-373-1581
Eureka                      1-607-779-2200
Fabiano                     1-617-268-5625
W.L.Gore + Assoc (Gore-tex) 1-800-431-GORE
Gregory                     1-800-854-8545
Hi-Tec                      1-800-521-1698
Jansport                    1-800-426-9227
Lowe                        1-303-465-3706
Merrell                     1-800-869-3348
MSR                         1-206-624-7048
New Balance                 1-800-343-4648
Nike                        1-800-238-6453
The North Face              1-415-527-9700
Sierra Designs              1-415-843-0923
Outdoor Products            1-800-438-3353
Slumberjack                 1-800-233-6283
Timberland                  1-800-258-0855
Timex                       1-800-367-9282
Vasque                      1-800-842-1301
Wenzel                      1-800-325-4121
Woolrich                    1-717-769-6464
L.L. Bean	1-800-221-4221

Mountain High Ltd
800-255-3182

Ragged Mountain
603-356-3042

Mountain Tools
408-625-6222

Climb High
802-985-5056

Campmor 810 route 17 North
po box 997D
Paramus New Jersey 07653-0997
800 526 4784

REI 	(800-# sales)
Sumner WA 98352-0001
800-426-4840

Sierra Trading Post
5025 Campstool Rd
Cheyenne Wy 82007
307 775 8000

caribou
po  box 3696 Chico CA 95927 

outbound
1580 Zephr AVE 
box 56148 
Hayward Calif. 94545
800 866 9880

Walrus
929 Camelia Street 
Berkeley CA 94710 
510 526 8961

Kelty
po Box 7048-A
ST Louis MO 63177
800 423 2320

Quest
800 875 6901

outdoor outlet
800 726 8106

Moss tents
po box 309
Camden Maine 04843
207 236 8368

Eureka tents
po box 966
Binghamton NY 13902
607 779 2200

Sierra Club
730 Polk
San Francisco, CA

   American Hiking Society
   PO Box 20160
   Washington, DC 20041
   +1 703 385 3252

   Appalachian Trail Conference
   PO Box 807
   Harpers Ferry, West Virginia 25425
   +1 304 535 6331

TABLE OF CONTENTS of this chain:

7/ Phone / address list					<* THIS PANEL *>
8/ Fletcher's Law of Inverse Appreciation and advice
9/ Water Filter wisdom
10/ Words from Rachel Carson
11/ Snake bite
12/ Netiquette
13/ Questions on conditions and travel
14/ Dedication to Aldo Leopold
15/ Leopold's lot.
16/ Morbid backcountry/memorial
17/ Information about bears
18/ Poison ivy, frequently ask, under question
19/ Lyme disease, frequently ask, under question
20/ "Telling questions" backcountry Turing test (under construction)
21/ AMS
22/ Words from Foreman and Hayduke
23/ A bit of song (like camp songs)
24/ What is natural?
25/ A romantic notion of high-tech employment
26/ Other news groups of related interest, networking
27/ Films/cinema references
28/ References (written)
1/ DISCLAIMER
2/ Ethics
3/ Learning I
4/ learning II (lists, "Ten Essentials," Chouinard comments)
5/ Summary of past topics
6/ Non-wisdom: fire-arms topic circular discussion

As promised here is the addresses and phone numbers of your favourite
Mountain Equipment Co-op.

1) Mail Order Store    US and Canada 1-800-ONE-COOP
   1665 W. 3rd Ave     Local and Intl (604)732-1537
   Vancouver, BC       Fax (604)731-6483
   V6J 1K1


2) Vancouver Store     (604)872-7858
   428 West 8th Ave
   Vancouver, BC
   V5Y 1N9

3) Calgary Store       (403)269-2420
   1009-4th Ave S.W.
   Calgary, AB
   T2P 0K8

4) Toronto Store       (416)363-0122
   35 Front St. East
   Toronto, ON
   M5E 1B3

5) Ottawa Store        (613)745-1094
   5B Beechwood St.
   Ottawa, ON
   K1M 1M2


P.S. For those in Ottawa who asked, Beechwood is at the intersection
of the Vanier Parkway and St. Patrick St.  It is a four way inter-
section of the Parkway, St. Patrick, Beechwood, and Crichton.  The 
simplest way to get there is to get off the Queensway at the Vanier 
Parkway and head into the city (north). Beechwood is at the end of the
the Parkway.  M.E.C. is right beside the New Edinburgh Pub.



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      \  St. Patrick St
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           \     Rideau River
             \ 
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                \               Crichton
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  Vanier Parkway  |Pub |  M.E.C. |  
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                  |Beechwood
                  |



Here's an updated and expanded summary of catalogs & equipment
companies.  This was compiled by by Dave Damouth
(damouth@wrc.xerox.com) from inputs by the multitudes.  Additions and
corrections are solicited.  I'll update and repost occasionally, if
it's of general interest  Currently, the listings are in no particular
order.   updated 4 Nov 92

  1.  Recreational Equipment Inc. (REI) -  1-800-426 4840;  some unique 
      items, including their own line of tents and clothing and lots of technical 
      rock climbing equipment.  This is a membership-owned co-op.   Members 
      get an annual 5% to 10% rebate on purchases.  Life membership $5.00? 
      Retail stores mostly in the west.  One is convenient to the San Jose airport   - 
      stop in on the way to PARC or XSoft.

  2.  Campmor - 1-800-526-4784  a large catalog, often the best prices.
       One retail store in New Jersey.

  3.  L.L. Bean - 1-800-221-4221  (Also ask about their specialty catalogs)
      free shipping, even on very small orders.  Reputation of superb product
      return, repair and support policies. You have to hunt for the 
      good stuff among the yuppie  clothing.  Their store (in Maine) is a 
      major tourist attraction.

  4.  Indiana Camp Supply - (303) 669-8884.   the biggest collection of medical
      and first aid items for back country use  (this number  is correct as of 1 Oct 92.  
      ICS has changed ownership, and isn't in Indiana now.  Don't know if anything else
      has changed).  ICS is also a publisher of backcountry-related books.

  5.  Ramsey Outdoor - (201) 261-5000   (800) 526-7436

  7.  Gander Mountain, Inc. - (800) 558-9410

  9.  S.I.  Gardena, CA. - (800) 533-7415

10.  Eddie Bauer (Seattle) - (800) 426-8020

12.  Wyoming River Raiders, 601 Wyoming Blvd, Casper, WY 82609 
     (800)-247-6068.  This 32 page catalog emphasizes  camping, kayaking, 
     canoeing and rafting items.

Early Winters (Seattle) - (206) {editor's note: Early Winters did go out of 
business.  Subsequently, another company bought the name and issued a new 
catalog, but it did not contain any of the nice outdoor equipment they used 
to have.  Instead, it is yet another catalog of expensive yuppie junk. }

EMS (Peterbrough, NH) - (603) {editor's note: EMS  (Eastern Mountain
Sports) is still in the retail business.  In fact they continue to
expand, most recently in Irondequoit Mall in Rochester, and on I 90 in
Buffalo (Galleria?).  However, they stopped their mail order business
and no longer have a catalog.  An employee in the Buffalo store said
they would be happy to accept phone orders and ship it to you, but you
have to know what you want.  Sale flyers are mailed mostly to local
lists - call or visit your nearest store to get on the list.

Parellex Corp. (Chicago) - (708)   ???Piragis Northwoods Outfitters
105B North Central Ave. Ely MN 55731   1-800-223-6565    A free mail
order catalog is available.   General inventory of canoe camping
equipment.  They have a number of unique Boundary Waters items - books,
maps, etc.    They are also a complete outfitter, with all sorts of
rental equipment.  They rent light kevlar Wenonah canoes.

Don Gleason's Campers Supply, Inc.
	PO Box 87  9 Pearl St.
	Northampton Mass, 01061
	1-413-584-4895
a line similar to Campmor (Eureka, Northface, Coleman etc.) with a few
interesting  odds and ends like Eastwing  rock tools and gold pans,
bulk shock cord, a whole page of bulk propane fittings and adaptors,
and bulk tanks......  They state they have a no hassle return policy
and 1 yr warranty.  Their retail store is located one block south of
the intersection of route 5 and route 9 (Main St.) in Northampton,
Mass.  1 mile from exit 18 of interstate 91, 15 minutes North of exit 4
of the Mass Turnpike (West Springfield exit).

Mountain Equipment Co-op.  (Canada's answer to REI)
1) Mail Order Store    US and Canada 1-800-ONE-COOP
   1665 W. 3rd Ave     Local and Intl (604)732-1537
   Vancouver, BC       Fax (604)731-6483
   V6J 1K1

2) Vancouver Store     (604)872-7858
   428 West 8th Ave
   Vancouver, BC V5Y 1N9

3) Calgary Store       (403)269-2420
   1009-4th Ave S.W.
   Calgary, AB T2P 0K8

4) Toronto Store       (416)363-0122
   35 Front St. East
   Toronto, ON M5E 1B3

5) Ottawa Store        (613)745-1094
   5B Beechwood St.
   Ottawa, ON K1M 1M2
P.S. For those in Ottawa who asked, Beechwood is at the intersection
of the Vanier Parkway and St. Patrick St.  It is a four way inter-
section of the Parkway, St. Patrick, Beechwood, and Crichton.  The 
simplest way to get there is to get off the Queensway at the Vanier 
Parkway and head into the city (north). Beechwood is at the end of the
the Parkway.  M.E.C. is right beside the New Edinburgh Pub.

Keel-Haulers Outfitters  (circa 1987.  I've lost the name of the submittor)
	       	30940 Lorain Rd.
	       	N. Olmsted, OH 44070
	       	(216) 779-4545
I have purchased life vests, helmets, and roof rack equipment 	
from them and I have NO complaints!  One life vest that they
had on closeout that I wanted to purchase did not fit me well
when I tried it on after receiving it.  I called and explained.
They sent me a differnt model BEFORE I managed to return the
first one with a little note indicating that I owed them a
few more dollars!  Good people!  A pleasure to deal with.
Another example:  Perception requires that dealers must not
Keel-Haulers offers a $60.00 credit with the purchase to use
anyway you want and what is not used in 30 days is refunded
upon request.  I am fairly certain that the company is a father
basement of their home.
 Their hours are:  Monday-Thursday - 10:00 AM - 9:00 PM
		   Saturday - 10:00 AM - 4:00 PM
I have their 1987 Spring-Summer Catalog and it includes everything that
a person needs to kayak, canoe, scuba, ...  Very complete - my kind of
store!  They carry Perception, Seda, and Hydra whitewater kayaks.  They
also carry Seda, Hydra, and Aquaterra sea kayaks... so they probably
know about the Aquaterra Blazer.  Other stuff that they carry are sea
kayak equipment, canoes, rafts, raft pumps, roof racks, bungee cords,
flotation, boat outfittings, spray skirts, rescue bags, carabiners,
knives, paddles, life vests, helments, sacks and bags, paddling
clothing, polypropylene bodywear, sleeping bags, sleeping pads, dry
suits, wet suits, tents, books, calendars, T-shirts, maps, and scuba
diving equipment.  They have a new policy in which they permit a
trade-in of an old plastic boat toward the purchase of a new boat! They
think that they will probably have used boats for sail starting in the
Spring of '87.  So, you should call to see what they have.

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