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From: sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com (Dave Kolb)
Subject: Re: symlinks/aliases in WindowsNT/NTFS ?
Originator: sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:48:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Nov14.081837.23937@hellgate.utah.edu>, carter@cs.utah.edu (Tony Carter) writes:
...
|> If aliases or symlinks are indeed supported inside WindowsNT/NTFS, it would be
|> of great value to me (and probably many others) if they were made available
|> via an API and via the FileManager.  Programs like ZIP could be modified to
|> handle symlinks for WindowsNT thereby allowing entire source file trees and
|> data file trees to be moved unmodified from UNIX platforms to WindowsNT
|> platforms.
|>
|> Does anyone have information on whether aliases/symlinks are supported inside
|> WindowsNT/NTFS?  If they are, is there a way to get at them via an (as yet)
|> undocumented API?
|>
|> Tony Carter
|> carter@cs.utah.edu

"Inside Windows NT" describes symbolic links in the object manager
namespace but they don't seem to be surfaced via an API or at least
not thru the file system namespace.  Indeed "C:" is an symlink for
a path name something like "\device\HardDisk0\..."

I would also like to see this featured as then one could eliminate the
need to deal with disk drive letters.

Much more user friendly would be a feature akin to the DOS "join" or
Unix "mount" command so that one needn't change his view of the world
just because one had to add more disk space by adding another drive.

Admittedly, this concept can be achieved via "volume sets" I think but
you can't dynamically add a disk to a volume set - can you?

-- 
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From: max@underg.ucf.org (Max Cray)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Help! My MS InPort bus mouse will not work!
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 15:10:07 CST
Organization: Underground Computing Foundation


I just installed the October beta, and my MS InPort bus mouse is not
working. When it installed it correctly identified it, and the mouse
cursor is in the middle of the screen, but it just will not move.

Anyone have any ideas on a fix? If so, please send me mail. I will
summarize if there is interest.

Thanks.

                                          -= Max =-

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From: cparker@centerline.com (Charles Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: how to configure standalone TCP/IP network
Date: 18 Nov 1992 20:16:37 GMT
Organization: CenterLine Software
Distribution: world
Reply-To: cparker@centerline.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.2.37

Is it possible to setup a TCP/IP loopback address. I want
to hack around w/ sockets, and am not on a net.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: dicks@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Richard D. Schlotfeldt)
Subject: Solution to setup problem with Adaptec
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:24:59 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
X-Posted-From: sun3a-hyde.honeywell.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Installation of Windows NT on my machine was not successful until
I upgraded the BIOS and firmware EPROMS on my Adaptec 1542B from
version 3.08 to 3.20. When that was done it worked great!

So if anyone is having installation problems using a 154x, I
strongly suggest checking the BIOS version which is displayed
at boot. If you decide to update but are not sure how to get
it done, send me mail. I have been down that path and can
provide some guidance and/or service.

Dick Schlotfeldt
From: morley@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Have I missed something here?
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:18:22 GMT
Organization: Camosun College

I think I've become confused somewhere along the way...  I originally
ordered and received the July '92 SDK.  It included the compiler and
docs in postscript format all on the CD.  At that time I was led to
believe that I'd be receiving an October beta SDK, and then release 1.0
some time later.  Is this correct?  One of the instructors here just
got an October beta release.  It has a small manual, but there are
no docs on the CD whatsoever.  There is also no compiler.  Perhaps
what he has is *just* a beta version of the OS... will my October
release contain docs and a compiler - or do I just use the ones that
are on my July CD?  In other words, are there two versions of the beta
release (one for beta *users* and one for developers)?

Also (I doubt if anyone who knows is reading this, but...), does anyone
know when we can expect to get our October kits up here in Canada?

Thanks for your time,

MARK
morley@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: mo@wind.bellcore.com (Michael O'Dell)
Subject: GNU Toolz on NT
Keywords: 
 
Reply-To: mo@bellcore.com
Organization: Center for Chaotic Repeatabilty
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 17:02:50 GMT

I remember seeing (somewhere) that someone has the Gnu
toolset all compiled-up, ready to go for NT and is selling
it on a CD-ROM. anyone have the pointer handy?

	-Mike
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: duling@vaxc.niehs.nih.gov
Subject: re: NT Won't Install: TRAP 0E - PAGE FAULT
Summary: NT console app won't share cpu !!!!
Keywords: NT, multitasking, console
Organization: University of Berne, Switzerland
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:06:03 GMT

HEY! - has anyone out there tried to multitask with a 
console mode application ?

I've found that if a Win32 console mode application is 
computing WITH THE FOCUS, whether or not it is accessing 
the screen io, everything else stops.  However, if a Win32 
GDI application is computing with the focus, then console 
mode and GDI mode applications (those in the background) 
continue to compute.

What is going on here.  Microsoft, are you listening ?  

Furthermore, a Windows NT console mode program, supposedly
a 32 program executing in a pre-emptive 32 bit environment,
executes more slowly than a 16bit DOS compiled program in
a default dos box in DOS/Windows 3.1 !  About 10% more 
slowly, and that is if the Win32 app has the focus !

I very much need to know the answer to this dilemma, and
if Microsoft considers this a problem and will fix it, or
am I missing something here ?  We should be able to take
nice ANSI C code, port it from any other OS, and with minor
changes, run the character mode application in a good
pre-emptive multitasking environment.

- MY SETUP:
  Dell 450DE/2 - 16MB RAM, 30MB swapfile
  cl386 -c -G3 -W3 -Di386=1 *.c
  link -subsystem:console -entry:mainCRTSetup -out:test32.exe \
        *.obj libc.lib ntdll.lib kernel32.lib

  I then run test32.exe , which is a floating point calculation 
intensive program with very little screen output.  

1. Test32.exe with focus and ~5 other Win32 GDI apps =     667 seconds
2. Test.exe with focus in DOS/Windows3.1 default dos box = 558 seconds
   where test.exe is produced by the Borland C++ 3.1 compiler.

The code is identical !!

I need answers!

-- Dave Duling
   Laboratory of Molecular Biophysics
   National Institute of Environmental Health Sciences
From: mark@infocomm.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: NT Installation with WD8003E Ethernet
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:40:29 PST
Organization: INFO COMM - Computer Consulting, Redwood City, Ca

Has anyone gotten NT to install with the Western Digital 8003E Ethernet Card?

The installation goes along fine until the point where it "starts the network".
At this point, the cursor stops tracking and pressing the RESET button is
required to get any furthur action from the system.

I've selected/configured IRQ=2, PORT=0x200 and Memory Base=0x0  
	(As suggested on page 43 of the Release Notes)

If I disable the network, everything else installs and operates fine.

In particular, I'm doing this with the October Beta release
	on a 	Clone 486/33 (16mb)
		AHA-2322B (ESDI CDC Wren III 180mb), 1.44mb floppy
		AHA-1542B + Sony CDU-541
		VGAWonder XL24 (NEC 6FG Multisync)
		1 Serial Port
		1 Parallel Port (No Printer)
--
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PHONE:	(415)369-9366	UUCP:  decwrl!infopiz!mark or uunet!lupine!infopiz!mark
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Subject: Re: ATI ultra pro drivers
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: hochstae@allfiwib1.wiwi.uni-marburg.de (Christoph H. Hochstaetter)
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:04:37 GMT

In  <7382@fury.BOEING.COM>  julien@sdc.boeing.com (William Julien) writes:
> I just placed an order or a Gateway 4dx2-66 computer with comes
> with a VESA local buss ATI ultra pro video driver. Although other
> Gateway computers are listing in the Microsoft compatability list,
> I see no reference to the ATI video card. Anyone have experience
> instaling the October NT beta with this system? Which supplied drivers
> work best with the ATI ultra pro local bus card?

Microsoft promised an 8514 driver, but it is not included in October
beta. So my question to Microsoft. Is there a chance, that there
will be an 8514 driver on CI$ before the next release?

For now, you have to install the ATI card as a standard VGA, which works
fine, but only with 640x480/16.

Christoph
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: sinyaw@starbright.smsc.sony.com (Sin-Yaw Wang)
Subject: deleted ???
Organization: Sony Microsystems
Distribution: comp
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:16:56


When I delete a file, it is actually moved to a hidden directory called
"deleted" with a name like "deleted.005".  The number signifies the entry
in a file called "index".

	HOW DO I DISABLE THIS FEATURE!!!!!!??????!!!!!!

When I type "del", "erase", or "rm", I meant it!

--
Sin-Yaw Wang, sinyaw@smsc.sony.com, 408-944-4076
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: mokler@desert.in-berlin.de (Claudius Mokler)
Subject: NT and serial ports
Organization: Private Site
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:51:54 GMT

I am running the pre-release version (july 92), since NT beta
still isn't delivered in Germany.
Since I have no SCSI CD-Rom, I installed NT using DOS2NT.
Everything works somehow, but I can't get NT to accept any
changes in my serial port setup.
If I try to select 'extended setup' in the control panel,
I get the message that my access rights do not include changing
these settings, I gotta contact the system administrator.
Damn, I *am* the administrator !

If anyone knows anything, please e-mail to
mokler@desert.in-berlin.de
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: strobl@gmd.de (Wolfgang Strobl)
Subject: Re: Have I missed something here?
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:27:08 GMT

In <1992Nov17.141822.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca> morley@camins.camosun.bc.ca writes:

>Also (I doubt if anyone who knows is reading this, but...), does anyone
>know when we can expect to get our October kits up here in Canada?

FYI, I'm still working with the July prerelease here in Germany, 
because I didn't get the October prerelease, yet. :-(

Wolfgang Strobl
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com (Dave Kolb)
Subject: Re: Win32 equivalent of popen()
Originator: sasdxk@skyhawk.unx.sas.com
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:59:29 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1eav9tINNor9@armory.centerline.com>, cparker@centerline.com (Charles Parker) writes:
|> How does one do the equivalent of popen() in NT? I want
|> to start another process, but make sure that it's stdin
|> and stdout are pointed to pipes which the parent
|> process has the opposite ends of. This is such an obvious
|> and standard thinq that I am sure it must be possible.But
|> how? To avoid confusion, I will say that the child process
|> is totally unknowing, and thus can perform no initialization
|> of this sort on its own.
|>
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|> Technical Support                    (617) 498 3321
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There is a good example of doing this in the \q_a\samples\inherit
directory on the CD and in the SDK Prog Reference Overviews book.
-- 
Dave Kolb                     Opinions are mine not SAS'
SAS Institute, Inc.           EMAIL:      sasdxk@unx.sas.com
SAS Campus Drive - J206       Phone:      (919) 677-8000 x6827
Cary, NC  27513-2414 USA      FAX:        (919) 677-8123
From: kevin@execu.execu.com (Kevin English)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: setting escape for terminal telnet
Date: 21 Nov 92 05:17:55 GMT
Organization: Execucom Systems Corp

Try typing 'help' at the TELNET> prompt.  There is an escape command.
(Maybe MS made this too much like unix ? 8-)
From: morley@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Can you specify a metric with ROUTE?
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:22:24 GMT
Organization: Camosun College

Question:  is there any way to specify the metric (number of hops) when
           using the ROUTE command?  Do I need to?

MARK
morley@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: brian@jaguar.cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill)
Subject: Re: Does Borland plan to support NT on non-X86 archtectures?
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 20:10:45 GMT

In article <hatton.721878944@cgl.ucsf.edu> hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton) writes:
>karlth@rhi.hi.is (Karl Thoroddsen) writes:
>>In <1992Nov12.023730.1101@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ebergman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Eric Bergman-Terrell) writes:
>>>In article <BxKCIC.5KE@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> hjhoffma@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (henning hoffmann) writes:
>>>Many of us are also wondering what Borland's commitment to NT on Intel
>>>silicon.  When can we expect a compiler supporting (minimally) WIN32S?
>>>Terrell
>
>>Borland is working on both NT & OS/2 compilers.  I would guess that their 
>>development priorities have by now shifted from OS/2 over to NT so we
>>should be able to get our hands on a NT & WIN32S compiler possibly in the
>>first half of '93.
>
>Glad to see that the board of directors at Borland is keeping you
>informed as to their plans - or are you perhaps psychic?
> 
>They have the OS/2 C++ compiler in beta, now, and it certainly will
>be out before an NT offering from them, unless you have hard data
>to the contrary. Having seen the beta for OS/2, it looks very nice;
>as, no doubt, will the version for NT, when it finally arrives.

I just got back from COMDEX... I talked to Borland there.
The NT compiler will be in beta soon, _definitely_ this year.
The OS/2 compiler will be out GA "very early next year", which I took to mean
January.
So yes the OS/2 compiler will be out sooner, but it looks like the NT compiler
will ship GA within a few weeks of NT's release.
I would think it fair to say that they somewhat emaphasized the NT project
over the OS/2 one, but the real delay was the creation of the 32-bit compiler
in the first place.

>
>Tom
>
>-- 
>Tom Hatton
>hatton@cgl.ucsf.edu
>(415)-476-7986


Brian
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From: robert@koko.csustan.edu (Robert Zeff)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32,comp.lsi.cad,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: October release of Spice for Windows NT uploaded
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:44:06 GMT
Organization: CSU, Stanislaus

I have uploaded the October release of Spice32 for Windows NT to:
ftp.cica.indiana.edu.  It's in /pub/pc/win3/uploads.  It will
probably be moved to /pub/pc/win3/nt after a few days.  The files
are spice202.zip and spice32.txt.  (Spice32 is my port / rewrite of
Berkeley's spice3e2, which is a circuit simulator.)

-robert

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: rupertb@is.morgan.com (Rupert Brown)
Subject: TCP/IP Install Problems
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:06:29 GMT

Having installed all the relevant drivers from the CD and filled in all the
blanks in the install dialog the tcp/ip and telnet services appears to start ok
according to the services control panel applet but ping telnet etc just refuse to see anything including pinging oneself.

In dos on the same machine FTP's PCTCP is working fine so the problem lies
somewhere in the NT setup. After browsing through Compuserve there seem to
be several folks with similar woes.
Could someone who's got it working post a summary of what to check when
setting up the TCP/IP service over token ring.
This is definitely a must for the FAQ.

Thanks

-- Rupert
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From: turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Is anyone running NT on a VESA bus machine?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 10:27:04 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu
Summary: Desire to confirm compatibility -- will summarize to net.

-*----
Has anyone successfully loaded Windows NT on a machine with the
VESA VL-bus?  If so, would you please mail me and tell me what
local bus disk controller and video controller you are using?
(I am not interested in controllers on the ISA bus.)

I am trying to confirm compatibility of NT's device drivers
with controllers operating on the VESA bus.  I am particularly
interested in the Ultrastor 34F SCSI II controller and the NDI
S3-based video controller.  I will summarize all responses to
this newsgroup.

Thanks in advance for sharing your knowledge with the net.

Russell
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: hmarvel@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Howard P Marvel)
Subject: Compatibility list
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:56:58 GMT


Can someone point me to a compatibility list for the most recent NT
pre-beta? I did not see one in the November Developer Network News.
On-line preferred.

Does anyone know if the inexpensive CD-ROM that Gateway sells will
work for NT? In the event that it does not, is the Microsoft deal
still open for players or is there another preferred option?

Is it likely that an EISA machine with SCSI controller will be worth
the extra $800 or so for use with NT? (Not as a departmental server,
however). If so, is the Ultrastore ok? Or do I need an Adaptec 1542?

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: dwightm@microsoft.com (Dwight Matheny)
Subject: Re: ATI ultra pro drivers
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:46:37 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: drivers

ATI just posted MACH32 drivers for the Ultra Pro on the ATITECH
forum on Compuserve. I downloaded them but haven't gotten them
to work yet.

-Dwight (MS)
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Re: Does Borland plan to support NT on non-X86 archtectures?
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:55:44 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

karlth@rhi.hi.is (Karl Thoroddsen) writes:
>In <1992Nov12.023730.1101@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ebergman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Eric Bergman-Terrell) writes:
>>In article <BxKCIC.5KE@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> hjhoffma@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (henning hoffmann) writes:
>>Many of us are also wondering what Borland's commitment to NT on Intel
>>silicon.  When can we expect a compiler supporting (minimally) WIN32S?
>>Terrell

>Borland is working on both NT & OS/2 compilers.  I would guess that their 
>development priorities have by now shifted from OS/2 over to NT so we
>should be able to get our hands on a NT & WIN32S compiler possibly in the
>first half of '93.

Glad to see that the board of directors at Borland is keeping you
informed as to their plans - or are you perhaps psychic?
 
They have the OS/2 C++ compiler in beta, now, and it certainly will
be out before an NT offering from them, unless you have hard data
to the contrary. Having seen the beta for OS/2, it looks very nice;
as, no doubt, will the version for NT, when it finally arrives.

Tom

-- 
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hatton@cgl.ucsf.edu
(415)-476-7986
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From: liaohen@cbnews.cb.att.com (Heng-Hsin Liao)
Subject: Re: Trantor SCSI T128 Driver Installation
Organization: AT&T Bell Lab
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:55:27 GMT

From article <1992Nov20.144812.27448@cognos.com>, by smithb@cognos.com (Brad Smith):
> In article <udizzyd.722215466@mcl> udizzyd@mcl.ucsb.edu (Mike Schmitt) writes:
>>If anybody has successfully installed the T128 driver that Trantor
>>has posted, I'd appreciate some guidelines.  I've been unable
>>to make NT read the registry entries I'm putting in.
> 
> Posted? Posted where. I'd like to get hold of this driver, since the company
> (foolishly, IMHO) bought these cards for use with the CD-ROM drives without
> checking to see if they were on the supported list.
> 
> Brad.
> 
> -- 
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> Cognos Inc.; 3755 Riverside Dr.; Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA; K1G 3Z4
> Voice: (613) 738-1338 ext 3702      FAX: (613) 738-0002
> Internet: smithb@cognos.COM         BIX: B.P.Smith

Please broadcast where the T128 driver was posted to. I think a lot of people
need this driver.

Thanks!


Heng-Hsin Liao

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: joiner@myria.cs.umn.edu (Jay K. Joiner)
Subject: Re: deleted ???
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:56:22 GMT

In <SINYAW.92Nov18181656@starbright.smsc.sony.com> sinyaw@starbright.smsc.sony.com (Sin-Yaw Wang) writes:

>When I delete a file, it is actually moved to a hidden directory called
>"deleted" with a name like "deleted.005".  The number signifies the entry
>in a file called "index".
>	HOW DO I DISABLE THIS FEATURE!!!!!!??????!!!!!!
>When I type "del", "erase", or "rm", I meant it!

Del and Erase are "internal" commands (without a separate binary).  They
should "really" delete a file. 

RM is an external command (RM.EXE).  It is part of a trio of commands
that include UNDEL.EXE, RM.EXE, and EXP.EXE.  As you found, RM moves
the file to the hidden directory.  UNDEL lists the contents of the 
hidden directory and allows you to undelete a file. EXP (expunge)
empties and removes the hidden directory.  To expunge all hidden
directories on a disk, type EXP/R from the root directory.  These 
commands were intended to be used with the MEP editor via the "backup"
setting in TOOLS.INI.  By setting "backup=undel" old copies of edited
files were kept in the hidden directory so you could retrieve old
versions, rather than one ".bak" copy.

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