From: backon@vms.huji.ac.il
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: american opinion
Date: 30 Dec 92 09:50:17 GMT
Distribution: talk,world
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

In article <1992Dec30.092817.132@vms.huji.ac.il>, backon@vms.huji.ac.il writes:



> Let's see. Blacks are about 12% of the American population so they *should*
> have 12% of members of congress (43 congressmen out of 535).
                                   ^^
Sorry. That should read 67 congressmen out of 535.


> Funny, I thought
> the Black Caucus in congress was MUCH smaller. In Israel, Arabs make up around
> 17% of the population. Apart from having two parties in the Israeli Knesset,
> they make up a majority of the HADASH (communist) party, and there are Israeli
> Arabs who are Knesset members in the Labor Party, MERETZ, and (I believe) one
> or more in the LIKUD. Just for the record, the day after elections, the
> newpapers publish the percentage and absolute numbers that each party received,
> and this is broken down by city/village, etc. Don't laugh but there *were* a
> number of Israeli Arabs  who voted for Kahana (KACH) in 1986 (?) and, more
> recently, for MOLEDET and TZOMET.
>
>
>> especially when you consider that whites enact legislation intended
>> to help blacks - a pretty rare occurrence in Israel, when Arab schools
>> are often shut down and curfews are imposed on their populations.
>
> Wrong. NOT in Israel (proper) but in the West Bank and Gaza.
>
>
>> Do you remember Shamir or Rabin fervently seeking a coalition with
>> any Arab factions in forming the government?
>
> I really hate to disappoint you but Rabin has the HADASH and two Arab parties
> passively supporting his coalition in that they always vote FOR (and not
> AGAINST) the government in a NO_CONFIDENCE motion in the Knesset.
>
>
>> Do you remember them
>> offering concessions to Arab leaders, and not just to the more
>> soft-hearted Jewish electorate?
>>
>>>I do not see your claim as valid. Yes, the Palestinian problem must be
>>>rectified - and soon. However, insisting that Israel give them Israeli
>>>citizenship is probably the last thing the Palestinians really want.
>>
>>>|> Perhaps you should look at pictures from Iraq or Sarajevo, and then
>>>|> give me a definition of "ravaged".  Israel sat tight, and now
>>>|> expects to be paid very handsomely for it. (or did - there is a
>>>|> question of whether having the loan guarantees now dooms the
>>>|> peace process more than any other act).
>>
>>>Well, what is your point? Yes, Israel was very patient.
>>
>> My point is that Israel was not "ravaged" in the Iraq war.
>
> I see. A few hundred million dollars in damages is not *ravage*. Whole
> neighborhoods demolished by SCUD missles is not *ravage*. Interesting.
>
>
>
>> This is just trying to blow up the sympathy level for Israel
>> to get more money.  Everybody else in the world PAID during that
>> war.  Israel feels it deserves a profit.
>> (Casualties?  Ten?  Oh my.)
>
> Oh my ! How Christian of you ! But then again, you know how JEWS are when it
> comes to profit :-)
>
>
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>
> Josh
> backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL
>

Josh
backon@VMS.HUJI.AC.IL


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