From: Bruce A Bufalini <bufalini@gis.psu.edu>
Subject: Aza loves OGGLEs (was Re: Aza Is No Rap-Head)
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 18:08:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.094700.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>In article <et&vHci&4a@atlantis.psu.edu>, Bruce A Bufalini <bufalini@gis.psu.edu> writes:
>> In article <1992Oct14.104406.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>>In article <ja&vHg&b4a@atlantis.psu.edu>, Bruce A Bufalini <bufalini@gis.psu.edu> writes:
>>>> In article <1992Oct13.200459.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>>>>In article <!7&vH4194a@atlantis.psu.edu>, Bruce A Bufalini <bufalini@gis.psu.edu> writes:
>>>>>> In article <1992Oct13.124134.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>>>>>>In article <!n*vHjp83a@atlantis.psu.edu>, bufalini@gis.psu.edu (Bruce A Bufalini) writes:
>>>>>>>> In article <1992Oct12.102506.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> aephel01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>>>>>>>>these days they used in the 70's.  They're dried up and only hang around
>>>>>>>>>because there's a group of people who know how good they were and naturally
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Yeah, and that is still a rather large number of fans.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You seem to like to put importance on popularity.  Is this a complex
>>>>>>>from not being popular?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It means that popularity or no popularity, there are still many, many people
>>>>>> who love Rush's music, and I am one of them.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am not denying that, what is a bunch of crap is that you tried
>>>>>to use popularity as a gauge of talent.  That's like saying the
>>>>>best American is always president.
>>>> 
>>>> I never used popularity as a gauge of talent.  You're trying to say that they
>>>> can be talented or popular, but never both.
>>>
>>>I made a disparaging comment about rush and you came back with a line
>>>about 'why are there so many postings to a rush newsgroup if they aren't
>>>good?'.  That was you arguing that popularity makes them good.  And I 
>> 
>> And talent also leads to popularity.  I've seen them play live, and there is
>> no other singer/band I would ever call better or more talented.
>
>But talent does not imply popularity!

But they *can* be both, and they are.

>>>>>>>>>consider them as good now without actually listening and hearing the
>>>>>>>>>blatant ripp off.  Hence, someone with the intelligence necessary to 
>>>>>>>>>print one word three to four hundred times is a typical rush fan today.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Not quite.  Individuals who print one word 300-400 times a day would typically
>>>>>>>> be classified as 'Rap-Heads'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Read my statement clearly, 'rap-head'.  Not only did I not write 'a day',
>>>>>>>but it describes what you and ken, the mental midget, think is a good
>>>>>>>dose of information.  You have aptly named your little clan.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> It more accurately describes rap music and rap musicians' lack of creativity.
>>>>>
>>>>>Once again you completely miss the target!  How uninformed can you be?
>>>>>Not only did you botch the quote from a Rush song, but you missed the
>>>> 
>>>> I didn't botch it; I quoted it to Neil to refer to _2112_ and not some trivial
>>>> source that most people won't care about.
>>>
>>>That trivial source?  'that most people won't care about.'?  Only 
>>>the book that has had more copies printed than any other book ever.  
>>>EVER!  Does that hint help you sonny.  I personaly don't think that 
>>>Neil is the type of person to even think about ripping off this one.  
>> 
>> I never said Neil 'ripped off' anyone.  You put those words into my mouth
>> several posts ago.
>
>All right, here we go.  I *never* said you said Neil 'ripped off'
>anyone.  I simply think that a quote from the BIBLE, since you
>probably haven't gotten it yet, should be attributed to the bible.

Then YOU attribute it to the Bible.  I'll attribute it to _2112_.

>At first it was a joke put at the end of your .sig, I could care
>less if some dimwitted shithead happened to hear some good music
>one day and find it cool.  But then you started acting like you
>really know about rush and think it's cool to say Neil is responsible
>for the quote.  And before you ask me how I know Neil respects the

I put it there ONLY for the reference to _2112_, one of their best songs and
one of the best songs ever recorded.

>bible, I'm not basing my disquiet on that.  It's the most fucking
>documented book in history!  Only a true moron, a dare I say, 
>net.idiot, would think they could steal this.  But then your stupidity

First you say that I never said that Neil stole the quote, then you suggest
that I believe he stole it.  I believe that you, sir, are the net.idiot
residing on alt.flame.

>shines through and saves you.  YOU DIDN'T EVEN BOTHER TO FIND OUT
>WHERE THE WORDS CAME FROM!  You are a slug, eat salt.

A diet of salt would not benefit the human body.  Therefore, this process will
not occur.

>>>>>above point completely!  You and your butt-boy ken print that fuckin'
>>>>>O**LE word hundreds of times and think it is intellectual.  By your
>>>> 
>>>> OGGLEs are very informative.  Perhaps you need a dose of them.  Just ask K e n
>>>> for some.
>>>
>>>The impenetrability of the argument!  It's amusing to see you fall
>>>back into your own childish world.  Into the land of make beleive.
>>>Say hi to Sarah Saturday for me.
>> 
>> Sarah is irrelevant, for no Sarah has made her presence known to me.
>
>Sarah is *very* relevant, she can help you.

Sarah is very irrelevant, for I do not require the helping hand from anyone.

>>>>>own definition, you're rap-heads.  And BTW, if you're serious about
>>>>>your last statement about rap, I hope you don't mean *ALL* rap.  Shit,
>>>> 
>>>> No, I don't mean all, but rather a large chunk of it.  I like Tone Loc, Young
>>>
>>>You just don't know when to quit, do you?  Tone Loc is second only to
>>>that brooklyn white trash ice shit head and mili vanili.  He raped
>>>Van Halen.  His whole stinkin' 'wild thang' song is about 5 seconds
>>>sampled from 'Jamie's Crying' off their first album.  The opening drum
>> 
>> I don't like it when musicians 'steal' from other songs, but I also have 
>> no control over what musicians put into their songs.  
>
>Ahhh, but what about what you listen to, any control there?  Or does
>mommy put the records on when she makes the computer *go* for you.

I choose what CDs I listen to.  You are very misinformed.

>>>role and everything!  I bet you turn on MTV, see which videos have
>>>good looking women humping air, and THATS your song.  And know, good
>>>bands have good looking women too. ;^)
>> 
>> My point was that I like Tone Loc a lot more than I could ever like bands such
>> as NWA or the 2 Live Crew.
>
>As I said, I don't know about these groups, but you picked
>one of the best at stealing to 'like'.

I think not.  Find any of The 2 Live Crew's albums and you'll see that they
are the biggest 'thieves.'

>>>>>I don't like it either, but remember when they said rock-n-roll was
>>>>>a fad?  Rap musicians rip off rock musicians and it is well known.  But
>>>>>not too many people know about all the r&b and jazz musicians that were
>>>>>ripped by the 'original rockers'.  It's just commin' in full circle.
>>>>>But back to the main point, you are full of shit!  :^)
>>>> 
>>>> And you are misinformed.  =)
>>>
>>>Probably on many things.  But you're still full of shit!
>> 
>> And you are still misinformed.
>
>Full of shit!

Ahhh, still misinformed, I see.  You should seek psychological treatment
immediately.

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