From: nguyen@airmics.gatech.edu (Son Nguyen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Re:Ho`a Ho+.p Ho`a Gia?i & Gia'o Ho^.i.....
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:06:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct6.140617.9556
Reply-To: nguyen@airmics.gatech.edu
Organization: SCV Relay
Originator: daemon@media-lab.media.mit.edu


 > ...
 > La^'y kinh nghie^.m na`y, anh kho^ng bie^'t To`a Tha'nh Vatican la`m gi` no'i 
 > gi` vo+'i Co^.ng Sa?n Vie^.t Nam.  Sao anh la.i ddi le^n a'n,  va^.y ai se~ 
 > thu+a anh ra to`a, nhu+ anh ddo`i thu+a mo^.t ba.n tre^n Net.   Nhu+ng Gia'o 
 > Ho^.i Thie^n Chu'a Gia'o kho^ng thu+a anh dda^u.  Ho. kho^ng thu+a anh, kho^ng 
 > co' nghi~a la` anh muo^'n no'i gi` thi` no'i......
 > 
To`a Tha'nh Vatican se~ cu+? dda.i die^.n qua VN trong na<m nay dde^?
no'i chuye^.n ve^` vie^.c ta^'n phong 1 hay 2 Ho^`ng Y.  Tru+o+'c kia
VN dda~ co' Ho^`ng Y, nhu+ng dda~ qua ddo+`i dda~ la^u.  Vie^.c ta^'n
phong Ho^`ng Y dda~ bi. tro+? nga.i vi` su+. la`m kho' de^~ cu?a DDa?ng
va` Nha` Nu+o+'c.

Ngoa`i va^'n dde^` ta^'n phong na`y, se~ co' nhu+~ng ba`n lua^.n ve^`
nhu+~ng hoa.t ddo^.ng Gia'o ho^.i Co^ng gia'o Vie^.t nam kha'c nhu+
thu. phong linh mu.c, nhu+~ng hoa.t ddo^.ng cu?a ca'c co+ so+? nha` tu,
v.v...  Ba^'y la^u nay Co^.ng sa?n dda~ quo^'c doanh ho'a va` kie^?m
soa't cha<.t che~, ne^'u kho^ng muo^'n no'i la` nga<n ca^'m, ca'c hoa.t
ddo^.ng cu?a mo.i to^n gia'o o+? VN.  Chi?  co' mo^.t to^n gia'o chi'nh
la` "DDa?ng va` Nha` Nu+o+'c".  Co`n nhu+~ng to^n gia'o kha'c pha?i
theo the^? thu+'c, ddu+o+`ng lo^'i cu?a -D&NN (tu+'c la` do -D&NN dde?
ra, to be exact).

Vie^.c na`y cu~ng a?nh hu+o+?ng dde^'n nhu+~ng to^n gia'o kha'c.  Vi`
mo^.t khi chu'ng no+'i tay ddo^'i vo+'i mo^.t to^n gia'o thi` chu'ng
pha?i no+'i tay d/v nhu+~ng to^n gia'o kha'c, Pha^.t gia'o cha<?ng
ha.n, vi` PG chie^'m dda.i dda so^'.

 > To`a Tha'nh Vatican ddie^`u khie^?n ga^`n mo^.t ty? ngu+o+`i theo dda.o Thie^n 
 > Chua' tre^n toa`n the^' gio+'i.  Co^ng vie^.c ddie^`u khie^?n vo^ cu`ng kho' 
 > va` phu+'c ta.p.  Mo^.t ty? ngu+o+`i theo dda.o Thie^n Chu'a Gia'o, co' ngo^n 
 > ngu+~, phong tu.c, ma`u da, ma`u sa('c chi'nh tri......, kha'c nhau.
 > Co^ng vie^.c ca`ng kho', khi pha?i ddu+o+ng dda^`u vo+'i the^' gio+'i Co^.ng 
 > Sa?n, no+i ddo' ho. ca^'m dda.o, dda`n a'p to^n gia'o, no+i ddo' kho^ng 
 > ddu+o+.c tu+. do ha`nh dda.o cho mo.i to^n gia'o chu+' kho^ng rie^ng gi` Thie^n 
 > Chu'a Gia'o.
 > 
 > To`a Tha'nh Vatican no'i chuye^.n vo+'i Co^.ng Sa?n VN nhie^`u la^`n o+? qu'a 
 > khu+', hie^.n ta.i, va` se~ trong tu+o+ng lai;  Chu+' kho^ng pha?i mo+'i dda^y 
 > mo+'i tie^'p xu'c.  Kho^ng ai co' quye^`n va` co' tu+ ca'ch ba('t To`a Tha'nh 
 > kho^ng ddu+o+.c no'i chuye^.n vo+'i Co^.ng Sa?n.  Ne^'u NG Cu+o+`ng nghi ngo+` 
 > To`a Tha'nh Vatican la`m ha.i To^? Quo^'c VN, thi` ho?i To`a Tha'nh Vatican cho 
 > ro~.  Ne^'u co' ba(`ng chu+'ng ro~ ra`ng thi` le^n a'n, chu+' ddu+`ng le^n a'n 
 > vu vo+ vo^ ba(`ng co+' la` ddie^`u kho^ng ne^n.  
 > ...

 > Tho^i co' gi` no'i chuye^.n sau........
 > 
 > SHC
 > 

DDe^` ca^.p dde^'n va^'n dde^` "To^? Quo^'c va` Gia'o Ho^.i", ca'i na`o
quan tro.ng ho+n?  Tru+o+'c kia cu~ng co' ngu+o+`i ne^u ra ro^`i.
Cha<'c mo.i ngu+o+`i cu~ng bie^'t ddo' la` ai?

"Li.ch su+? Nam Vie^.t Nam dda~ cho tha^'y" ra<`ng trong ca'c giai
ddoa.n:

7/1954-11/1963:  To^? Quo^'c > Gia'o Ho^.i ( > means greater or more
important than)

11/1963-4/1975:  Gia'o Ho^.i > To^? Quo^'c

4/1975-Present:  There is no such "Gia'o Ho^.i" or "To^? Quo^'c", but
"DDa?ng and Nha` Nu+o+'c"

Good day,

So+n Nguye^~n