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From: zio@Garg.Campbell.CA.US (Zio zZz)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Chinese Food (was re: Yu Shan in Sunnyvale...)
Keywords: chinese food drink
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:22:43 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Land of Garg

tedh@cylink.COM (Ted Hadley) writes:

> In article <1992Aug27.212315.28066@cylink.COM> cliff@cylink.COM (Clifton Shak
> >
> >Yu Shan is good if you like cockroaches.  We found one in a take out
> >noodle dish a while ago.  Have not been back since.
> 
> I live nearby and occasionally pick up dinner there on the way home from work
> I have never found the food to be better than just OK. On one occasion, the
> food was quite poor in quality (and I ate there then -- not carryout).
> 
> If you want _good_ Chinese at low prices, go to either Grand China in Los Alt
> (El Camino & Distel) or to Szechuan Garden in Mountain View (Castro & Evelyn)
> -- 
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Ted A. Hadley ---------------- tedh@cylink.COM ---------------- (408) 735-584
>        Cylink Corporation, 310 N. Mary Ave., Sunnyvale, CA 94086  USA
>   All opinions expressed are my own, and probably not liked by my employer.

Well, I have tried all these and many other chinese restaurants, but NO 
place, IMHO has better food than Mayflower Chinese Restaurant in Maple 
Leaf Plaza on Saratoga Avenue in San Jose.  To start things off, their 
Wonton Soup is the most flavorful I have known.  Normally, wonton soup is 
VERY mild....almost to the flavor of lightly seasoned water.  Not 
here...  The sauces used in almost all of the dishes I have tries are 
EXTREMELY flavorful...which was a little bit of a problem once - one of 
the others in my party ordered a spicy beef dish that I just cannot 
remember the name of.  I decided to try it....BAD IDEA.  It nearly 
knocked me out.  But he sure loved it.  Everyone I have taken to 
Mayflower has become a regular, even calling me up frequently to ask me 
if I want to go.   Yeesh...I like chinese food, but there IS a limit.  
Maybe I shoulda kept my big mouth shut about the place....NAAAH!
 
Mayflower
1080 Saratoga Avenue (in Maple Leaf Plaza)
(Next to Bed of Roses Bath Shoppe and Yogurt Delite)
San Jose
Tel# (408) 246-9550
 
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Three great meals under $5
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:41:46 GMT


Everything else I saw was south basy - here's some east bay and San Francisco
ideas. 

If you're around Berkeley, check out a small Chinese place on University
between Martin Luther King and Sacramento, on the right side if you're headed
towards the bay. I forget the name, but I dropped in last night during laundry
and grabbed a spring roll folr 55 cents, and the spring rolls are 3 times 
the size of any I've seen anywhere else. They have a variety of meat, fish
and veggie meals and the typical entree is $2.55 including rice, for a large
serving. 

Also, on the burrito trail - Zona Rosa on Telegraph and also on Haight in 
San Francisco have some very nice meals almost all under the $5 range. Plus 
Andronico's cash register reciepts have $1 off coupons for Zona Rosa...

But my favorite burrito is in San Francisco at Pancho Villa on 16th between
Misson and Valencia. Huge portions and the best veggie super burritos I
ever found yet. They have a sister restaraunt a block away at 17th and 
Valencia called El Toro. Both seem to do a very high volume of business
but are very fast and veyr good. 

Another cheap stop for a quick veggie meal is George's Deli on 14th at
Church - they make a great falafel, but the place is take out only.  

 - Malcolm 
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: kxbehni@srv.PacBell.COM (Keyvan Behnia)
Subject: Re: Three great meals under $5
Reply-To: kxbehni@srv.PacBell.COM
Organization: Pacific Bel
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:17:54 GMT

In article 714933706@wrs.com, malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>
>But my favorite burrito is in San Francisco at Pancho Villa on 16th between
>Misson and Valencia. Huge portions and the best veggie super burritos I
>ever found yet. They have a sister restaraunt a block away at 17th and 
>Valencia called El Toro. Both seem to do a very high volume of business
>but are very fast and veyr good. 
>
Pnacho Villa, the 8th wonder of the world. But a burrito is so, urm, boring and big.
try the taco al pastor. it is the best i have had outside mexico. if you south bay
folks know a place with has good al pastor, let us know. Also a must at PV is the 
shrimp and peppers dinner. $5.95 only, amazing. also the chicken asada tacos are yummy.
the other thing that must be noted about PV is that it is one of the cleanest mexican
restaurant that I have ever been too. and perhaps that is why is is so successful.

Keyvan


Newsgroups: ba.food
From: stefan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stefan Michalowski)
Subject: Re: Good burritos (was Re: Three great meals under $5)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 20:35:18 GMT

In article <BtnDy4.CHB@well.sf.ca.us> louis@well.sf.ca.us (Louis Jaffe) writes:
>Well, as long as we're on the subject of burritos...
>
>If any of those assembled will be pursuing the under $5 bargain in
>San Francisco, here are three suggestions in the Mission district:
>
>Casa Sanchez, 24th St off Potrero; La Cumbre and El Toro, approximately
>across the street from each other on Valencia S of 16th. All three of
>these give you a large-size burrito with all the trimmings for $3 to 
>$3.50.  
>....

In my opinion, you'll get a much better burrito ay La Taqueria at
Mission and 25th. Almost as good is the place next door, which seems
to be run by the people who moved out of La Taqueria a few months
ago. Another great Burrito place is at 18th and Folsom.

SM


Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Three great meals under $5
	<92239.090344JMH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:16:05

"JMH" == JMH  <JMH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:
JMH> Never forget the Guadalahara(sp) Market, GREAT burritos for $4.00

What about La Castena at Middlefield and Rengstroff?  Great black bean
(no lard) and rice burrito for $2.05

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
           '91 CB750, soon to be replaced by a '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
      "Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads." -- R & G Are Dead
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Passage to India and Empress of India
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:16:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.165750.13701@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
}There are usually other embellishments, like raita,
}fresh fruit, raw vegetables and so forth; it varies by day.  She
}doesn't offer a dessert, but many Indian buffet desserts aren't that
}good, anyway.  (Kheer seems to be very popular other places, probably
}because it's inexpensive to make.  Passage to India has gulab jamun,
}one of the main reasons I keep going back.)

Geoff and I went today. Heavenly. We were the only people there, though,
so get up off your duffs and give her some more business! She apologized
that she didn't have any fruit to give us, but it didn't matter to me
because I ordered a mango lassi. I was about halfway through the meal
when it finally arrived -- with Jeanne's apologies because she used
fresh mangos so it took a while to make. It had no yogurt in it at all,
that I could tell, and it was WONDERFUL!!! Talk about not needing
dessert! YUM!

The lassi cost $2.35 and was worth every penny and more. And it cut the
heat of the rather spicy dishes beautifully, without cutting the taste
of the eggplant puree that I loved so much.
-- 
Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
Adobe Systems, 1585 Charleston Rd., POB 7900, Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Passage to India and Empress of India
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:34:57 GMT
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

In article <l9q6rqINN936@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> petolino@joe.Eng.Sun.COM (Joe Petolino) writes:
>>>+--
>>>| odds are today's curry chicken was last night's tandoori
>>>+--
>
>My understanding, from reading cookbooks, etc, is that Chicken Tikka
>Masala (chicken pieces in tomato cream sauce, one of my favorite Indian
>buffet items) is traditionally made from leftover tandoori chicken.  The
>buffets I've eaten at all made it that way.  I'm not sure if this is the
>'chicken curry' we're talking about here.

The times I've been there, the chicken curry has typically not been
tikka masala.  But if it's true that chicken tikka masala traditionally
made from leftover tandoori, why does the proprietess deny it?

I don't have any particular axe to grind with A Passage to India--I still
eat there--but I'm curious.

Charleen
--
My mother wants grandchildren, so I said, "Mom, go for it!"  -- Sue Murphy
From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Three great meals under $5
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:52:39 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <9208260300.AA01469@minos.nmt.edu> js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman) writes:
>By "great meals" I mean that in both senses of the word: good
>tasting, and filling.
>
>#1: Togo's, large #16, $3.99.  Outlets everywhere.
>
>         Three meats and two cheeses (cotto salami, Genoa
>salami, capicolla, provolone, mortadella), lettuce, onion,
>pickles, and peppers on a roll.  
>much for sandwich shops, but this is a real meal.  It
>tastes better if you can let it sit for an hour or two
>and let the flavors marry.

Warning: do not eat one of these prior to:
 
  1) a car trip on winding roads
  2) ...or during a ride on a sailboat
  3) a flying lesson which includes aerobatics
 
From experience,
 
Greg
Newsgroups: ba.food,rec.food.restaurants
From: dfw@thumper..bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
Subject: Re: West/Central African Restaurants
Summary: Nigerian restaurant
Reply-To: dfw@thumper.UUCP (Doris Woods)
Organization: Bellcore MRE
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 14:07:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.182754.9019@leland.Stanford.EDU> jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.142027.19861@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> lake@po.CWRU.Edu writes:
>>In article <1992Aug31.133038.4935@osf.org> ellis@osf.org (Ellis S. Cohen) writes:
>>>I've eaten in plenty of Ethiopian and Morrocan restaurants,
>>>but I've never found a West or Central African restaurant in
>>>the US or Canada.  Does anyone know of any?
>>
>
>	Well, I know of a place that advertises itself as a West African 
>restaurant in San Francisco.  It's a block or two south of Haight Street,
>near the Haight-Ashbury district, but I can't remember it's name.  I've
>been wanting to go there but the person I usually go to the city with is
>a real food wimp  and she seems a bit afraid of it.  *sigh*  I seem to
>remember it having a lot of veggie dishes, and being fairly inexpensive.
>
>	Does anyone know the name of this restaurant?  More importantly,
>does anyone know if it's any good?
>
>	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
>
>P.S. I cross-posted this to ba.food--  I hope no-one minds.
>

 I seem to remember there is a Nigerian place in the Mpls/St. Paul 
area also. I'll call my friend tonight and find out exactly where.

     Doris
From: pine@maui.nsc.com (Bill Needles)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Monteray Tips Needed
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:40:03 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

There is a great little cafe in Pacific Grove named "Tosties." It is at the
West end of the main drag on the North side of the street. Tremendous
breakfasts. The locals eat there, and I can see why. Great food and not to
expensive. Get there before 9:00am to avoid a wait.
From: js@MINOS.NMT.EDU (John Shipman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Three great meals under $5
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:00:47 GMT

By "great meals" I mean that in both senses of the word: good
tasting, and filling.

#1: Togo's, large #16, $3.99.  Outlets everywhere.

This is the standard Italian submarine-type sandwich.  I
started eating these in 1972 at the original Togo's on
William Street in downtown San Jose (hard by SJSU) long
before they became a chain, but the product you get at any
Togo's outlet is not significantly different than what I
remember.  Three meats and two cheeses (cotto salami, Genoa
salami, capicolla, provolone, mortadella), lettuce, onion,
pickles, and peppers on a roll.  Normally I don't care
much for sandwich shops, but this is a real meal.  It
tastes better if you can let it sit for an hour or two
and let the flavors marry.

#2: Passage to India, lunch buffet, $4.99.  On El Camino
just (logical) north of Castro, Mountain View.

This place has been reviewed by several folks recently.  I
ate there just last week and it was still great.  The
selection is broad, all the dishes are a cut above average
for Indian places around here, and you can go back for more.
If you get there late in the lunch hour, the food on the
buffet may be a bit depleted, but they will bring more out
of the back; in particular, they will bring you fresh bread.

#3: Chef Wang's, Tan Tan Noodle, $4.30.  On Castro right
next to Sue's Kitchen, Mountain View.

I heard about this place from the net some time ago, but no
one has mentioned it recently.  I learned how to make a dish
called "don don noodles" from a cookbook some time ago.  It
is typically a meatless dish sold by wandering street
vendors in China; the staple ingredient is sesame paste
(the recipe I have says you can substitute peanut butter
for this).  But at Chef Wang's, it is a *very* meaty sauce
poured over a large bowl of fresh-pulled homemade noodles.
I don't care for sea cucumber, but you can ask them to leave
this ingredient out.  There is still plenty of coarse-ground
pork and even a couple of shrimp in the sauce, and the
noodles are excellent, Chef Wang's specialty.

John Shipman (john@nmt.edu)
From: cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Seto Review, was another We Be Sushi Review
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:26:22 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Taligent, a little subsidiary of two really big companies.

Is this the Seto on El Camino Real near Lawrence, or the Seto on
Maude?  Are they operated by the same people?
--
-- Christophe

"Black is the color of non-conformity.  Everyone has to have it."
	T-shirt company executive
From: dan@BofA.com (Dan Brockman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Union Sq area suggestions?
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:06:35 GMT
Organization: Bank of America, Capital Products, RMTG #5906

>I've never dined there, but Roxanne's Cafe at Powell and Bush is
>often crowded when I pass by, and they are opening up a new
>addition further down the street. It definitely fits the "casual
>part", maybe someone on the net has dined there ...

IMHO overpriced, service spotty and snotty, full of tourists


-- 
 --------------------------------------------------------------
 Daniel Brockman             tel 415-953-0406, fax 415-622-2892
 Bank of America, Dept 5906, 555 Calif St
 San Francisco 94104 USA    email uunet!odinba!dan dan@BofA.COM
From: leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Savera, and nine Indian places ranked
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:57:56 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Sep1.172057.22967@adobe.com> sherwood@adobe.com (Geoffrey Sherwood) writes:
>We live in Milpitas, and while Swagat was a nice change of pace, our standard
>Indian restaurant is Cafe Bombay (in the Brookside Inn, which is at 880 and
>237,

Second the motion on Cafe Bombay - if you can get past the dimly lit 
(well, DARK) ambience, the buffet is a great deal.  The place always seems 
totally deserted, so Geoff, we've probably seen you there!

Regards, Lee
From: js@minos.nmt.edu (John Shipman)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Savera (ex Vindu), rankings of 9 Indian places
Date: 30 Aug 92 23:28:01 GMT

I feel a little gun-shy about posting any more Indian food
reviews, but since you asked....

I tried Savera (formerly Vindu) a couple times since they
changed hands.  I thought Vindu was average.  Savera is
a bit better.  They have the longest menu around, all
the northern Indian standards and a fair number of southern
dishes too (they make okay masala dosas).  Prices are
average.

Here is how I would rate the Indian restaurants I've tried.
Ratings are mostly on food, but to a lesser degree on value
and service and do not consider atmosphere or location.
All ratings are HIGHLY subjective.  Your mileage may vary.

3.5 stars: Empress of India.

3 stars: Le Tandoor (Los Altos), Tandoor (on Sunnyvale-
Saratoga near Rainbow), Sue's (but only her vindaloo).

2.5 stars: Savera, Passage to India.

2 stars: Taj Mahal (Stevens Creek near Lawrence), Sue's
other food (but it's overpriced), Pasand (Sunnyvale),
India Cookhouse (I didn't get the roach curry, though).

Just for reference, I don't often give out 4 stars (so far,
only Lion & Compass and Chez TJ); 3.5 stars means
consistently impressive (Birk's, Scott's, Piccolo Mondo) but
not really transcendentally overwhelming; 3 stars means
pretty good; 2 stars means average to ho-hum.

John Shipman, fallible human (john@nmt.edu)
From: sherwood@adobe.com (Geoffrey Sherwood)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Savera, and nine Indian places ranked
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:20:57 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <92244.160533RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
>I would also highly recommend Swagat in Milpitas, their idlis are out of this w
>orld. I would rate them a solid 3.0 maybe 3.5. Kathmandu West in Cupertino gets
> a 3.5. The only restaurant which serves Indian curries not modified for Restau
>rants but in an authentic fashion. Don't try their desserts though, the kheer i
>n particular. This would easily rate a 3.5

I have been there one time.  I would rate their appetizers as superb.  We had
a chicken with chili pepper dish, pakoras, and a dish I don't recall the name
of which started with a 'u' (I think) and was like a thick pancake with onion
and spices.  Sort of like onion kulcha squared.  All were good, though the
pepper pakora was rather intense (we like hot food, but there are limits!). I
had the Chicken Vindaloo which was also good.  My wife had Rogan Josh.  I
believe their 'lamb' came from a sheep who died of old age.  Well, maybe not
quite that bad.  The mutton taste (which for some reason always reminds me of
old sweat socks) was *very* strong.  My wife (who is a lamb fancier) agreed.
I also found the remaining dishes of the thali dinner to be rather ordinary
(except the vegetable curry, which was good).  We were warned away from their
tandoori, so did not try that.  There was no need to even consider dessert --
we took gobs of stuff home as it was.  All in all, decent food at a decent
price.

We live in Milpitas, and while Swagat was a nice change of pace, our standard
Indian restaurant is Cafe Bombay (in the Brookside Inn, which is at 880 and
237, but there is no connection to them except that Cafe Bombay rents the
space).  Kris (the owner) has a buffet each weeknight from 6 to 10.  As you
might expect, the food tends to be better in the 6-6:30 time frame (though
we have eaten there about once a week for the last two years so we have been
there at all times).  He always has Chicken Makhani (undoubtably misspelled),
tandoori chicken, saffron basmati, papadams, dahl, and a mixed vegetable dish
(the latter either in a cream sauce or a curry sauce).  Lately, anyway, he
either has Rogan Josh or Chicken (something or other, my memory  pisses me off
here because it is one of my favorite dishes and I can't think of the name of
it; call it chicken and onions in a mild curry sauce).  He also has several
other veggie dishes he rotates through (cauliflower & potatoes, cabbage,
garbanzo).  He raised his price recently to $8.99, but put in a 'every 11'th
free' so no real change to us frequent diners.  His regular menu is good, too,
but we never make it past the buffet.  Almost forgot, he also brings out a
fresh basket of nan so it doesn't sit out.  Not gourmet Indian, perhaps, but
the food is good and we like the variety a buffet gives you.

	Geoff Sherwood
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: brad@clarinet.com (Brad Templeton)
Subject: Yu Shan in Sunnyvale has a special
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:19:08 GMT

Yu Shan, a fairly nice northern Chinese restaurant is having a special
this week through Thursday, 25 to 50% off everything.

That means this medium pricey restaurant, which is still worth it at
its normal prices, has the prices of an ultra cheap -- $4.20 dishes etc.
for the next couple of days.   They claim the Merc called them one of
the best 10 Chinese places in the bay area.  I don't know about that, but
it is pretty good.

Check it out.  It's in the plaza at the corner of Mary and Freemont.
-- 
Brad Templeton, ClariNet Communications Corp. -- Sunnyvale, CA 408/296-0366
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: francis@oas.stanford.edu (Francis Muir)
Subject: Re: Coffee Source 
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:35:01 GMT


iHave I missed something? Throughout these coffee threads I have seen
no mention of the Connoisseur Coffee Co. at 2801 Middlefield Rd., Redwood
City. This is in the heart of the Barrio, a couple of blocks shy of the 
Price Club but on the other side of the street. First, they have a great
selection of beans, including from India and China. Second, they are roasting
in smallish batches the whole time. Third, they roast not burn. Fourth, they
always have about half-a-dozen different coffees available for tasting in
large thermoses. Fifth, they are not overpriced. Their Aged Bali -- very, 
very earthy to the point of foetid -- was my favorite but unfortunately
their supply dried up. I now buy their Celebes Kalossi and at this time
(4am) I'm making my first pot. Incredible aroma. They do most of their
business with restaurants and markets and are, for example, the supliers
to Richard's Market in Woodside. They also have an interest in the newish
coffee shop attached to the Printer's Inc. on California in Palo Alto.
Good people, too.

Buon' appetito

Fido
From: aland@informix.com (Colonel Panic)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Looking for a *great* coffeemaker
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:12:22 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Helen Keller Bondurant High Performance Driving School for the Blind

In article <k3=nlrd.strnlght@netcom.com> strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight) writes:
>Ken Meltsner mentions Price Club for coffee. Actually, they sell an
>excellent Colombian Supremo bean, roasted by J Gavina (a very good
>roaster), in 2-lb plastic valved bags. If one pops them into the
>freezer on getting home, and grinds a potful at a time (no need to
>thaw as the grinder gets somwhat hot--at least my burr grinder does),
>the result is excellent coffee at an extremely good price.

In what region?  Price Club doesn't use just one roaster; they use many.
In the South Bay and peninsula regions, I think Peter James does most of there
coffes, using PJ's lower grades (this info from a former employee).  There
are some large coffee operations in the East Bay; they may provide the coffees
for Price Clubs in that area.

--
Alan Denney      aland@informix.com      {pyramid|uunet}!infmx!aland

I'm Pro-Anarchy...   and I Vote!
From: JMH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Good burritos (was Re: Three great meals under $5)
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:51:41 GMT
 <1992Aug26.233202.11342@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> <38159@unix.SRI.COM>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Try Tacos El Camino on El Camino in south Redwood City across from
the bowling alley. Although I have not eaten there in about 5 years
(moved to San Jose), I remember thier burritos as being large and good.
                              Jim