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From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Grey Area News...
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 17:17:49 GMT
Organization: Charnel House Prod.

awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) writes:
: And lo, mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones) spake unto the masses saying:
: 
: > Does the press release say anything about whether it will be a
: > European/UK release only?
: 
: I thought Grey Area stuff was no longer available domestically in the US at
: all? There were no indications given in the press release, but I've got the
: impression that The Grey Area no longer reaches the US. Confirmation,
: anyone?

Well, all the Tower stores around here certainly have the stuff, and
Subterranean is now distributing the This Heat CDs, so it's getting over
here in some fashion.  If I can't find the SPK box set, though, I may
send you some money to buy it and send it to me! ;-)


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From: noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz)
Subject: Re: lollapalooza 2
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world,local
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:43:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.125236@ece.arizona.edu> mikey@ece.arizona.edu (Michael Gribbons) writes:
>a little information please
>
>at the lollapalooza 2 is there a big carnival set up?
>you know shops and such, with interesting merchandise and information.
>is this outside the show or in the show requiring a ticket for this
>attraction as well? 
>and is it worth seeing this stuff and not seeing the show?
>
>why? because i don't plan sitting in the blazing sun of arizona for 12
>hours straight and especially not dancing around. besides Crash Worship
>is playing tucson on august 8.
>
>thanks for the help.

Yes, there is stands and such selling stuff and little shows here
and there!! And yes, it is inside with the show the ticket you bought
for the concert includes all kinds of good stuff!!

 _
HaoN
From: omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: SST bites again (was Let's help out negitvland!)
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:11:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: tiamat.21JUL92061155
Reply-To: omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Sirius Cybernetics Corporation
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4

In article <0bdm++d@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes...
>shing@spot.Colorado.EDU (SHING PUI-SHUM BENSON) writes:
> 
>> Does anyone have an address for Negativmailorderland?
> 
>	Negativmailorderland
>	109 Minna #391
>	San Francisco, CA 94105
> 
>As far as I know, Seeland will still send you the booklet and the sticker
>for $2.
> 
>--
>Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

No, I sent for these a few months ago and was sent a letter in reply.
It said that they didn't have any more of either due to the problems with
SST.

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From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: REQUEST: LYRICS TO 'TV SONG'
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:51:43 EDT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

I feel stupid asking this--knowing how many of you out there have low
opinions of the song--but does somebody have the lyrics to 'TV Song'?

I'd appreciate it...

Christopher
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From: bp271@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew N. Sharp)
Subject: Re: Samples, Semantics, Death of "Industrial" "Music"
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 03:50:46 GMT



Chris Krolczyk, "esq." "writes";
>[much inane drivel deleted]



CHRIS, WHAT, EXACTLY, DO YOUR "STATEMENTS" HAVE TO DO WITH THE SUBJECT 
MATTER?  HOW DO THEY REFUTE WHAT I HAVE POSTED?


PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING MINDLESS BLATHER.
YOU ARE WASTING BANDWIDTH.
YOU HAVE DONE NOTHING WORTHWHILE.
PLEASE REFRAIN FROM POSTING.



AND (THIS IS FOR YOUR OWN SELF-ESTEEM) PLEASE REFRAIN FROM ADMITTING
THAT YOU ACTUALLY HAVE HARD COPIES OF MY POSTINGS TO NM-LIST FROM OVER
A YEAR AGO.  IT MAKES YOU LOOK RATHER PATHETIC, DON'T YOU THINK?




LOVE,
PEDANTIC BLOWHARD OF A GEEK
-- 
Matthew Neill Sharp
bp271@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy: Metro
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:37:27 GMT

In article <Brv6ov.5n5@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Thomas  
C. Fischer) writes:

> Yeah, I think they use tapes.  If they don't, then ogre is a lot more
> talented than I ever would have guessed.  In the beginning of "killing 
> game", someone forgot to turn off the virtual reality video thing after 
> ogre took his head out of the box, and the next virtual reality episode 
> started playing (but should actually have started two songs later).  So, 
> ogre yells, "Turn off the fucking head gear!", and at the same time you 
> hear his quiet "singing" of killing game in the background.  
> 
> I know that he wasn't lip-synching for the whole show, but I guess they 
> have his vocals on tape playing in the background just in case too much  
> blood gets on his microphone and shorts it out...

My impression was that he was asking for the headgear to be shut off  
because of the feedback it was causing after he discarded it. He was using  
the handheld mic at that point. I didn't get the impression he was syncing  
any vocals. If anything, a tape might have been going for a lot of the  
background stuff, but not as obviously or as necessarily as for Godflesh  
shows.

AK
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: homulka@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Homulka)
Subject: Re: Future Sounds of London
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:00:03 GMT

Future Sound of London's album is called "Accelerator" and is supposed to be
very good (I don't have the review of it right here).  While in England the
past two months, their song "Papua New Guinea" was a UK chart hit.  I kind of
describe it as Dead Can Dance meets 'house'.  I also heard that the song
"Papua New Guinea" is to be on the soundtrack to the movie "Cool World"

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: pichocki@nbrwh34.bnr.ca (Stephen Pichocki)
Subject: Hallucination Generation
Summary: "Another Request for a Sample Identification" 
Organization: Northern Telecom, Bramalea, Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:36:55 GMT

Given the prompt response to my "Hello Teenage America" quote request (Thanks
everybody), I've been wondering for some time now about the source for
both Meat Beat Manifesto's and Gruesome Twosome's "Hallucination Generation"
songs.

For those who don't immediately know the quotes I'm refering to:

(A Male voice, circa 1950s, kinda sounds like a sinister Ward Cleaver)

"Those innocent fun games of the Hallucination Generation"
"Psychedalic Circus"
"Pill Party, after Pill Party"

Just as a personal comment, I really enjoy the imagery evoked by the 
juxtaposition of a voice representing time, honour, tradition, against
a backdrop of a cacophonous psychedalic wash. Kinda reminds me of George
Bush speaking of a 1000 points of light against a backdrop of Time Warner's
Gulf War Greatest Moments video (with the sky of Baghdad brightly illuminated). 

(Oh by the way, if anyone out there has the equipment, time, and a 
copy of Geroge's infamous speach, I'd be happy to market the above for you)
(Ben Cox are you looking for another project??)


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* employer
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Regards,

Stephen Pichocki
Northern Telecom
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: lpm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Lee P Miller)
Subject: Re: The Inflatable Swimsuit
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:55:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.175135.15481@ms.uky.edu> brian@nx25.mik.uky.edu (Brian hoffman) writes:
>In article <4001@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> front242+@pitt.edu (Brian R  
>Iwaskewycz) writes:
> >A company in California has invented and marketed an inflatable swimsuit  
>>that works like the Reebok/Nike pump shoes.  What does this have to do  
>>with the alternative music scene?  The commercial features a group of  
>>models dancing (in their blow-up bikinis, of course) to a chorus of "We  
>>must, we must, we must increase our bust!" which was done by the Lords of  
>>Acid from Belgium... Just something I thought I should post...
>
>I always thought that was one of those stupid rhymes that kids make up.   
>Of course *I* never sang it as a child, but I seem to remember it from my  
>childhood for some reason :).
>-Brian


Perhaps it's because that line was used on Laverne & Shirley while Shirley (I
believe) was doing exercises to increase the size of her bust.  My god I
actually remember this, I *DID* watch too much tv as a kid ;)

							-Lee
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: james@mte.ncsu.edu (Mike Paisley)
Subject: Re: Ministry Samples
Organization: Mat. Sci. & Eng., NCSU
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:12:31 GMT

In article <Bs3pJ9.HF@brunel.ac.uk> cs89mmh@brunel.ac.uk (Mark Humphreys)
writes:
>I was watching a film on Sunday night on BBC-2 (in the UK), and kept 
>thinking that the leading character had a very familiar voice. After
>a while I realised that most of the samples in JBMHR were taken from
>this film, including the immortal "Nobody with a good car needs to worry
>about nothin'", and "Where you came from ......, etc" . The name of this 
>film escapes me just now (wow, what a memory ehh!), but it had Harry
>Dean Stanton in it. 

Sounds like Repo Man.

-Rob
From: vacek@athena.cs.uga.edu (George Vacek)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Moshing
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:58:16 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Jul27.164236.25868@beach.csulb.edu> douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette) writes:
>  One thing I've noticed is that when people start moshing, by and large, they
>all move in a counter-clockwise direction. What I was wondering, do people in
>the Sounthern Hemisphere mosh in a clockwise direction? :-)

I'm not sure if you should direct the question across the equator, so much as
across the atlantic.  In most social/crowd situations, as I've grown up, I've
noticed the propensity for americans to walk/run/etc. on the right-hand side,
and leave on-coming "traffic" on the left-hand side.
This, I've always assumed had to do with driving practices.  I was curious if
the British walked on the left-hand side, and had oncoming walkers on the right.
Several of my friends have traveled to the U.K. and several others are from
there, and all report to me that this is so.
Next time your in a crowded hallway/stairwell/sidewalk, check it out.  This
phenomenon is wonderfully interesting to observe.  You can really mess people
up by switching to the left.

Anyway, back to your observation.  I hadn't noticed it before, but remembering
all the moshes I've been in, it seems that you are right.  Counter-clockwise.
Note that means that the mosher is on the right, with oncoming moshers on
his/her left.

Croag

Ps. Excuse the spelling,etc. I suck at typing.

Pps.  Flame away, but remember what Freud said: "It's only a theory." ;-)

vacek@athena.cs.uga.edu
my opinions are my own. -- croag
From: moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy: Metro
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 00:30:04 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Thomas C. Fischer) writes:
>
> Yeah, I think they use tapes.  If they don't, then ogre is a lot more
> talented than I ever would have guessed.  In the beginning of "killing game",
> someone forgot to turn off the virtual reality video thing after ogre took
> his head out of the box, and the next virtual reality episode started
> playing (but should actually have started two songs later).  So, ogre yells,
> "Turn off the fucking head gear!", and at the same time you hear his quiet
> "singing" of killing game in the background.


I had asked Cevin Key a few months before the concert if they were going
to be using tape this time, and he said Dwayne was going to use a sound
brush (roland) for sequencing, but other then that, no tape...

perhaps things changed....
<X>orcist

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From: osiris@athena.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: the return of the Great
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:07:39 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.industrial
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Matthew N. Sharp writes:

> {useless shit omitted}
> {uninformed shit deleted}
> {Matthew N. Sharp removed}

wow, and the net was just beginning to get exciting again.

he's right, you know...we should be listening to disco music.  It is
the only true music with a future.

peace,
-marcel
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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: Samples, Semantics, Death of "Industrial" "Music"
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:35:47 GMT

mchen@groucho.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen) writes:

>Industrial music will die in two years?

Oh come on folks!  Get with the program!  They broadcast the funeral on CNN
last week!

P.S. Short shameful confession:  I spun a 70's disco party last Thursday.
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From: alh@einoed.in-berlin.de (Adrian Le Hanne)
Subject: Re: Severed Heads Lyrics
Organization: Einoed Unix & Netzwerke, Berlin (FRG)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:35:59 GMT

barth@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barth.richards) writes:

>A few comments and questions:

>The order of the ROTUND FOR SUCCESS lyrics listed in the article is
>different than the running order of my CD (Nettwerk), and is missing a
>track (though the lyrics appear later, under the heading "Unknown
>releases, probably on Blubberknife").  Which version of RFS does Yary
>Hluchan have?

The order of the tracks was taken from the european Nettwerk release of
"Rotund For Success", which does not include 'Eel's Blood' and 'Lovesick
Facist Meathead'. Thanks for the information, the errors are mine since
i refered to my european releases instead of the US version Yari has.

>>* Come Visit The Big Bigot [Nettwerk, >1986, CD, LP]
>>  (this release contains the Ink LP "The Big Bigot" (except song two,
>>   "George The Animal", which was swapped with "Twenty Deadly Diseases")

>Did the track "George The Animal" appear anywhere else besides the Ink
>Records CVTBB LP?  I'd never heard of this track.
I never saw this track on another release. This one was probably swapped
because of copyright problems with Ink depending the re-release on Nettwerk.
It is not only a renamed, though. I will ask Tom about this.

>>* Unknown releases, probably on Blubberknife, which i don't own (sob)
>>
>>Adolf A Karrot? {Garry}
>>Deano's Couch {Garry B.}

>These two tracks are indeed on the cassette tape set MANY A WONDERFUL
>PICNIC HAS BEEN RUINED BY BLUBBERKNIFE.  "Adolf A Carrot (Karrot)?" is
>also on the Ink Records LP CLIFFORD DARLING, PLEASE DON'T LIVE IN THE PAST,
>and is one of the bonus tracks on the Nettwerk CD of either SINCE THE
>ACCIDENT or CITY SLAB HORROR.  (Sorry, I don't remember which one
>specifically.  There are several BLUBBERKNIFE tracks included as bonuses
>on each of these CDs.)


>>Eel's Blood

>This title is not listed on the BLUBBERKNIFE track list, and I don't know
>this one by that name.  It's possible that the track is on BLUBBERKNIFE
>under a different title.  I'll have to check.  The lyrics do sound vaguely
>familiar.  Does anyone else have any more information?
Yari had listened this track under the 'Rotund' lyrics. I thought this was
wrong so i put it in the 'unresolved' part. 

>>Lovesick Fascist Meathead
>This is on the Nettwerk CD of ROTUND FOR SUCCESS, with the title "L.F.M."

>>who has the lyrics of "Oscar's Grind"?

>I don't know for sure that these are the lyrics (the vocals are pretty
>murky), but I've taken a shot at it.  If anyone knows for sure, or has
>other opinions, please post.
[...]

thanks, i will add these to the lyrics file and post it after some
more revisions.


Adrian 
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From: aa561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Nekic)
Subject: Re: Ministry _Psalm_69_ quick review
Reply-To: aa561@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bob Nekic)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 03:31:29 GMT


In a previous article, ice@skynet.uucp (Ice) says:

>I think you people are too selfish. All you ever care about is what YOU
>want to hear and what YOU like.
>


Gee, yeah...how selfish of me to actually want to like an album I just
bought.   A CD I don't like?  ahh, that's OK, I'm glad I spent the money
because atleast the band got to explore and experiment with new ideas.
geez...or course I'm selfish.  That's why I buy CDs...I want to own
something I like...heaven forbid, I know, but...



-- 
"Oh precious land, you're in the wrong hands - stretched everyway like a
rubberband - I'm calling out to all Earth fans - Come on, give a damn,
and take a stand - Keep the hope spinning the globe."  => Deee-Lite
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz)
Subject: Re: Al, I'd like to make a confession...
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 17:27:21 GMT

In article <1992Jul15.155256.114@lrc.edu> blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:
>I won't speak long, lest you bigshot industrial dudes flame my ass...but I
>happen to enjoy Ministry, or, the no-longer-industrial, hardcore Ministry.
>And (I'm ashamed to say), I didn't mind 'Scarecrow' at all. Cool track, it
>is. Also 'Psalm 69'--which I'm listening to right now. Even IF Al revealed
>his ignorance......who cares? it's ONLY a song! You people treat this like
>it has to be 100% Perfect! Since WHEN was an album ever *perfect*??? True,
>this is nothing like the old Ministry, but who's to say it isn't *better*?
>
>Ok, you can flame me now....
>
>P.S.	I also like Godflesh, Skinny Puppy, and Napalm Death. Anybody care
>to comment?

Yea!,  I agree with you 110%!!!!!!!!!!!
Apache


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From: noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz)
Subject: Re: Lolla II in Seattle: Review
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:00:18 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.173049.2137@Cadence.COM> noah@Cadence.COM (Noah Ruiz) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.164557.9856@cs.mcgill.ca> storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Horatio Gadsplatt III) writes:
>>
>>
>>I don't really like the Red Hot Chili Peppers, but I at least expected  a
>>pretty decent show from them.  In gereal, they were dull.
>>
>>Still, great day, great way to waste a full 8 hours work....
>>
>>Awesome.
>>
>
>
>Wow! thats really disappointing to hear cuz they really put on a 
>great show at the ShoreLine Amphitheater(Mountain View)!!!!!!!!! 
>
>HoaN
^^^^^^
Ya I know! U try raving all weekend get three hours of sleep then goto
work!!!!!! U know your tired when u can't spell your own sig.. Anyway
Flame on I can really give a shit!! 

HaoN (hay'on) 

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From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Re: Police seek to Ban Ice-T Performing In New Zealand
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 16:40:41 EDT

In article <92204.111928U19807@uicvm.uic.edu> U19807@uicvm.uic.edu writes:

>BTW,since when did an amendment to the Constitution get passed that said that
>the police-or any other authority figure-had the right to abridge someone's
>first amendment rights because they said something they didn't like? Is it
>me,or does the spectre of _unelected_ officials pulling all this boycott crap
                                                                  ^^^^^^^
>sound like certain people are thinking they have the Divine Right Of Kings
>these days?


	The police can boycott anything they want. This is America.
	Ice-T can sing about killing cops or picking dasies, or whatever.
	Time-Warner has the right to release it, or not release it.
	And police officers have the right to not buy it, to protest
	it, to ask other people not to buy it, or to record an album
	of their own with a song called "Ice-T Killer."

	But...the government has no right to ban it. Police can picket
	record stores if they want, write letters to the newspaper, but
	the real danger is when the government steps in.  It hasn't --
	yet.  So far, it's just citizens who don't like the song
	exercising their right to say they don't like it.

	Darin Powell