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From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Chargers D WINS IT!
Date: 3 Jan 93 02:14:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.000805.8693@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
> FINAL: Chargers  17   Chiefs  0
> 
> Chargers  10   Chiefs  0
> 4th qtr.
> Humphries deep left pass to Miller, great catch but then he
> HE F-U-M-B-L-E-S!  Ball bounces around and then Miller 
> recovers his own FUMBLE! Ball on the 23. 8:00 to go.

That was Harmon who recovred the fumble. Nice hustle by him.


> Well, the Chargers have not stopped being the Cinderalla
> team of the 1992 season. Next stop, Miami. Hmmmm, I wouldn't
> bet against the Chargers based on their Defensive play.
> Of course, IMHO, I don't think the Chiefs offerred a
> multi-faceted offense, at least not today. This is NOT
> a knock or flame towards the heralded San Diego Chargers.
> My point is, IMHO, against a more multi-facet offense, the 
> Chargers could have problems. The Miami - Chargers games
> will certainly be interesting!!

Is Miami really multi-faceted?  They have Marino and the passing
game, but can they run the ball well? With Higgs gone,
we will see what Humphry can do. 

Yes, the Chargers might have problems against multi-facted 
offenses [who doesn't?]. But IMO Miami is not such a team. 
Dallas, SF, Buffalo.. now those are multi-faceted.

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From: vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Dan Reeves is gone!
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:46:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.UfDtzKm00WDK4DB0tN
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I just heard on the radio that Dan Reeves' contract with the Broncos
organization will *not* be renewed. Where will he go?

Chicago?
New England?
Atlanta?
New York?
Cleveland?
Los Angeles Raiders?
Phoenix?
Detroit?

I don't see Ditka leaving, or Shell, Bugel, Belichek or Fontes.
That leaves New England, Atlanta and New York.

I think he'd be most effective in New England, but could end up in
any of these places, or none.

And who will replace Reeves in Denver??

If Glanville gets fired like the rumor mill has been saying he will,
then I'd like to see Atlanta go with Buddy Ryan.

looking forward to the playoffs, and next year...

--Vernon.
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Run and Shoot Offense
Date: 22 Dec 1992 21:25:19 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
Distribution: usa
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In article <BILLMS.92Dec22154703@gip.eecs.umich.edu> billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
>In article <1fqpfpINN705@menudo.uh.edu> swadi@sdl.egr.uh.edu (Shantanu Swadi) writes:
 >
 >   How many NFL teams in the past decade have tried and failed with 
 >   Run-and-Shoot Offense?  Does anyone have any statistics?

All of them.

Do the "Shark Dance"
              on Deions' head

Tim
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Immaculate Reception---NOT !!!
Date: 28 Dec 1992 21:41:42 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <168CBB157.ISTRE-A@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>  
istre@ricevm1.rice.edu writes:
> Last week, Terry Bradshaw told the media that he has asked John  
Fuqua many
> times over the years whether or not he touched the ball or not  
including
> earlier this month. Fuqua still will NOT say anything either way.  
"Frenchy
> will carry that to his grave" Bradshaw was quoted as saying.
>  

I bet one reason Frency won't say is that even he can't no for
sure.  He was being slammed by Jack Tatum as the ball arrived,
so it's doubful whether he could tell whether the ball was
also bouncing off his shoulder at the time.

By the way, has anyone tried to figure out whether Tatum was
guilty of interferance on the play.  Remember, if he touched 
Fuqua even a fraction of a second before the ball got there,
it's interference. Of course, no ref would call it that close
(and rightly so).  If it's not clearly interference, they
give the benefit of the doubt to the defender. 

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
From: larrym@ssec.wisc.edu (Larry McGuire )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Don't do it! (was Re: The Packers still suck)
Date: 22 Dec 92 14:41:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Space Science and Engineering Center

In article <1992Dec22.044118.7409@serval.net.wsu.edu>, jjungbau@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec21.203305.12516@doug.cae.wisc.edu> chrisc@cae.wisc.edu (Chris Carey) writes:
|> 
|> >secured is meaningless.  Sorry, I guess I'll became a Bears fan, after all,
|> >rumor has it Ditka is on his way out.
|> 
|> No, Chris, don't do it!  Being a Packers fan is one thing, and I can <gulp>
|> accept that... but, please, please, don't even joke about joining those guys!
|> Please tell me you haven't already begun the conversion.  Quick, just to be
|> on the safe side, check for symptoms.  Has your Polish sausage intake increased
|> significantly over the past week?  Have you found yourself pausing next to the
|> Ditka posters in the mall just a little bit longer than usual?  I hope for
|> your sake that the answer is no.
|> 

Some other symptoms that require immediate attention:

-  Removing your favorite brand of beer from the frifge and replacing it 
   with Old Style

-  Actually being able to understand Butkus' commentary during the game.

-  Pulling maps of Door county/No. Wisconsin out and saying "Honey, were should
   we go this weekend?"

-  Calling the Chamber of Commerce in Platville and asking for names of 4 star 
   hotels with openings this August.

-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Larry McGuire                  larrym@ssec.wisc.edu

Space Science & Engineering Center     
University of Wisconsin, Madison        
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: Bills a Bust? (WAR is HELL)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 04:45:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.231629.24773@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>>It was a measly second-week interconference game. So your beloved
>>Niners lost. Get over it.
>>
>You see, for all to "see". There you are bringing the Bills win over
>the Niners again. I've long forgotten it (14-2 baby), yet you guys seem
>to rally over a 2nd week win that is really insignificant, isn't it?
John, you are a jerk!

That week 2 win insignificant? Gimme a break! That's the Bills' Super Bowl.
I mean, since a #4 seed is unlikely to make it to the Show, what
else is there for them to cherish in 1992 but a win over a 14-2 team?

Get over it. At least the Bills managed to beat the 49ers in a Big game,
a Buffalo Super Bowl. In other words, the 49ers has lost at least one
Super Bowl -- the Bills' Super Bowl.

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Montana's dramatic comeback - not!
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:27:50 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec28.174850.15535@mksol.dseg.ti.com> dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com writes:
>Hey, is it just me or would anyone else like to see Jerry Ball or
>someone behead Joe Montana on his "dramatic" comeback? I'm sorry,
>but I think my grandmother could throw for 300 yards in the 49er
>system.

Yeah but can is she willing to make a comeback?

satish nair
ray is gone!
From: chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dolphins win AFC East - Bills' Fans eat words..
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:19:02 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

In article <C01p1F.M9r@acsu.buffalo.edu> kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes:
>>>The deal with Miami is that they suck. 16-0? No! 15-1? No! 14-2? No! 10-6?
>>>Maybe, if they're lucky. Miami will lose all hope of a division title after
>>>the Bills kill them in Miami.
>>
>>Not so, Jimmy.  They won when they had to, and the Bills didn't.
>
>The Bills did win in Miami, Miami finished 11-5 (not 10-6 as I predicted),
>but got the title anyways. Now, was I that far off? I think not.

You're still pretty thick, Jimmy.  The point wasn't whether or not you
were right, but how petty and vindictive you were.

Still, you said:

1. "The deal with Miami is that they suck" - I guess that depends on
how you define your words.  I hope Miami sucks enough to win the
Division next year, too.

2. "10-6? Maybe, if they're lucky" - Nope.  Oh, they *were* lucky, but
they went 11-5.

3. "Miami will lose all hope of a division title" - We all know how
that turned out, now don't we?

4. "..after the Bills kill them.."  -  I don't think 26-20 qualifies
as being "killed".  But again, that depends on how you look at it.
But if 26-20 qualifies as being killed, then 37-10 qualifies as being
massacred. 

If you're going to post BS on the net, Jimmy boy, you better be
prepared to have it thrown back at you. 

So why don't you just eat your words like a big boy, Jimmy.  Miami won
the AFC East, and there's nothing you can do about it.  You might
learn something from some of the other Bills fans who had the class to
congratulate Miami on winning.

However, if you want to whine, go ahead - no one can stop you.  

Curt

Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
'92 Dolphins - AFC East Division Champions





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From: ndasmith@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Noah smith)
Subject: CFL EXPANSION INTO U.S.?!?
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 02:30:10 GMT

I recently heard somewhere that the CFL (through the pushing of Bruce
McNall) is trying to expand into some U.S. cities; such as Portland, San
Antonio and Birmingham, Alabama.  Has anyone else heard about this? Send
info to the above address, and thanks.
From: caeser@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Robert Michael Trotter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Vikings 27 Green Bay 7
Date: 28 Dec 1992 04:03:35 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

	
	Well, I travelled up to Minnesota today to see my Vikings
	for the first time at the DOME. Minnesota after spotting the
	packers an early 7, score the next 27 and go on to crush the
	Packers. Great game, glad I travelled up from Milwaukee to
	see it. The dome is just something that has to be seen. It 
	was pretty neat. Congrats to my Vikings, I predicted at the
	start of the season a 10-6 record for the Vikes, glad to
	see I was wrong, as we finish 11-5! GO VIKINGS.

	Mark
	GO VIKINGS!
-- 
Minnesota Vikings	NFC Central Division Champions 1992-93!

Gannon back in the pocket, DRAW to Allen, Allen bursts up the middle,TOUCHDOWN!
From: grantham@beirut.berkeley.edu (Jon Grantham)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 'Twas NBC Re: Raiders vs. Redskins (CBS' unprofessionalism)
Date: 28 Dec 92 05:40:19 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Math. Department.
NNTP-Posting-Host: beirut.berkeley.edu

kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) wrote:
>No, it was CBS. Check again.

No, it was NBC.  YOU check again.

Jon
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud)
Subject: Vikings comments
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:35:53 GMT

In light of the Vikings clinching the NFC Central I thought I'd share with you 
all some comments on the Vikings from a life-long Packer fan.  First of all as 
a Packer fan it is understood that you hate the Bears.  (your just pretending 
if you don't).  I've always wanted to hate the Vikings as well, but I couldn't.
 They've always made me laugh.  I've compiled a list of tren reasons the 
Vikings make me laugh.

                    1.  Those purple uniforms.
                    2.  Superbowl record 0-4
                    3.  Jerry Burns  (the grumpyist coach I've ever seen)
                    4.  1989 9-0 at home, 1-6 on the road
                        (One win in dome-like Tampa Bay)
                    5.  They always seem to back into the playoffs
                    6.  They always seem to have comical games with the Bears
                    7.  Hershel Walker
                    8.  That guy with the big horn (I think he blows it when
                         The Vikes score a touchdown
                    9.  The taunting of Ditka when he refered to the HHH dome 
                         as a roller rink
                    10.  Purple people eaters

BTW, this is not meant as a flame.  I just think they are funny.

Paul (flashbacks of '89, YUCK!)
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Eddie Murray was(Re: 49ers have the 'Ladies of Charity')
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:48:20 GMT

In article <1gt7f9INN4kt@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM> nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>
>Murray is not kicking for the Buccaneers.  Don't know what happened to 
>Willis.
>
>nate

I assume you meant to say "Murray is NOW kicking for the Buccaneers."
because, indeed, that is so.
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From: carrato@acsu.buffalo.edu (Michael Carrato)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Greatest Comeback in NFL history
Date: 3 Jan 93 21:29:45 GMT
Organization: UB


I am numb. At 35-10, when the Bills got the onside kick, I thought
of Reich's comeback at Maryland that we always hear about. But even
in my most optimistic fanatical delusions I didn't think it would HAPPEN!

To Oilers fans, I feel for you guys. To see the Oilers lose a lead
like that must have been maddening. After the first six quarters of
these 2 games I thought the Oilers were the team to beat, the
way they dominated... I really don't know what happened in the 
2nd half. But ask the Raiders and the Broncos about the crazy 
bounces that can go against you at Rich.

For those who missed it, 28-3 Oilers at the half, 35-3 with 13 minutes
left in the 3rd, and then something magical happened:

35-10 3rd
35-17 3rd
35-24 3rd
35-31 3rd
38-35 Bills late in 4th
38-38 end of 4th, into OT
41-38 Bills after Moon interception in OT

Incredible.

Unfortunately, the magic of Rich Stadium will not be a factor anymore.

By the way, this WAS the biggest comeback in history, no?

Mike C.
"It is bedlam! Pandemonium! Fandemonium! Fantastic!"
                       -- Van Miller, voice of the Bills
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From: chrisc@cae.wisc.edu (Chris Carey)
Subject: Re: Chuck Cecil in Pro Bowl???????
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:57:53 CST

In article <1992Dec28.190325.27130@bmw.mayo.edu> bergerson@mayo.edu writes:
>
>
>->Apparently you're too stupid to realize this Chad, but the NFL has the BEST way
>->of choosing their all-pro team; the players vote.  If anyone knows that Cecil is
>->the best safety in the conference, it's the players, not you.
>->
>
>Yes, I am very stupid and know nothing about football, Jeff.
>
>1.  Cecil is not even close to being the best in the conference, let alone
>the central division
>2.  He is a cheap shot artist
>3.  so, How many int's did he have this year???????
You certainly don't know as much about it as the players playing.  If they
voted Cecil into the pro-bowl who are you to say he shouldn't be there?  Until
you dig out a uniform, put it on, and play a game against every safety in the
conference, shut your hole.  Every word you spurt out is meaningless.  I
realize the Vikings secondary is darn good.  However, a significant amount of
players in the league think Cecil is darn good, guess what, he is.  As for
being a cheap shot artist, the guy plays hard nosed defensive football,
something a Viking fan should know plently about.  Finally, he has four
interceptions, no record setting amount, but respectable.

-Chris C.
From: chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dolphins win AFC East - Bills' Fans eat words..
Date: 29 Dec 92 12:59:48 GMT
Organization: GTE Laboratories

In article <Bzzo06.7Mz@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes) writes:
>I wish the fish lots of luck they won the AFC EAST, they deserver credit
>and congrats. Their fans also deserve our congratulations and our best
>wishes, at least until the playoffs start!

Thanks, Kevin.

It's our turn to woof a little.  Sooner or later, it'll be your turn again.

>Kevin; a Bills fan

Curt

Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
'92 Dolphins - AFC East Division Champions


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From: twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf)
Subject: Re: 49er QBs
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:41:27 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: usa

>In article <1992Dec29.151404.26611@asl.dl.nec.com> nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix) writes:
>|A question from a non-49er fan:
>|
>|If you were in George Seifert's shoes next season, would you bench the
>|league MVP to give one of the all-time great QBs one more year of glory?
>|Montana has already said that he will NOT be a backup, so this is what 
>|George must do in order to keep Montana with San Francisco.
> 

Well, I wouldn't think they would make any plans. With the high probability
of the signing of the new player pact, I see the free agent market going
wild. Steve Young's contract is up this year. With so many teams in the
probable market for a new QB, it seems to me that the highest rated QB for
the last two years will be a hot property. Even if the 49ers want to keep
Young (and Young really wants to play for the 49ers as he says he does),
dollars may control the final outcome. With DeBartalo having troubles in the
business world, he may not have the funds to keep Young in San Francisco.
If I was a competing owner who need a QB, I would sure try to buy Young.
Even if I didn't get him, I would try to jack the price so high, that it
would hurt the 49ers.

So, if the 49ers are smart, they won't make any decisions about who their
QB for next year is, until they have Young under contract. Only if that
happens, will they have the chance to decide Montana's fate.



Tom - not looking forward to free agency - Wolf
From: caeser@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Robert Michael Trotter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: What is a "Packer"? Viking fan wants to know
Date: 21 Dec 1992 23:03:17 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <wallyt.724969786@cserver> wallyt@cserver.plexus.com (Wally Thomson) writes:
>>I think it has more to do with the fact that the Green Bay Packers are one of
>>the oldest football teams there is (are they THE oldest?)  Anyway they've
>>always been a part of football and they've always been in Green Bay.
>
>>Another important fact is that the city of Green Bay owns the Green Bay
>>Packers.  As far as I know, this is a unique situation in the NFL.  I doubt
>
>As I understand it, this is not exactly correct, they are owned by shareholders
>from all around, mostly based in G.B. and Milwaukee.  The city of G.B. does not
>own the team.
	
	This is not correct from what I understand. I have always understood
	the GB is owned by a board/committee appointed by the city of GB.
	So the city does own the Packers. But I could be mistaken.

	Mark
	GO VIKINGS!
-- 
Minnesota Vikings	NFC Central Division Champions 1992-93!

Gannon back in the pocket, DRAW to Allen, Allen bursts up the middle,TOUCHDOWN!
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From: root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon)
Subject: Re: VIKINGS WIN!!! 6-3
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:07:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.202237.12395@doug.cae.wisc.edu> chrisc@cae.wisc.edu (Chris Carey) writes:
>In article <1992Dec21.174147.351@bmw.mayo.edu> bergerson@mayo.edu writes:
>>
>>You Packer fans are a riot.  The Skins didn't even score a TD against the
>>Vikes earlier this year.  Maybe you should all write letters to Santa wishing
>>to be in the playoffs.  :^)
>You Viking fans are even more of a riot, you win one game, and whoopee!! The
>Vikes are gonna go to the superbowl after all!!!  Maybe you should write to
>Santa for an offense, the Vikings defense isn't going to teach the Packers a
>thing, Houston had a good defense and a good offense, the Packers won.  A
>defense is at a disadvante, no matter how good it is, the longer it stays on
>the field.  The Packers are near the top of the league in time of possesion.
>Look for a boring game until about the end of the third, or the start of the
>fourth.  At that point a gasping, tired, DB for the Vikings will watch Sterling
>Sharpe blow by him and into the endzone for a TD.  Further, a lot of the
>Vikings points have been defensive, tell you what, the Packers haven't been
>making a lot of offensive mistakes.  If anyone runs an interception back for a
>TD it will be Buckley.
>
>-Chris C
>

Hey Chris, stop dreaming, it's time to wake up.
Since it's too late for you to read the morning paper, I'll tell you
the Sports Headline:

MINNESOTA VIKINGS 1992 NFC CENTRAL CHAMPS!!

also..

PACK NEEDS HELP TO MAKE PLAYOFFS


nuff said

----------------------------
J.R. Ordon
GO VIKES!!!
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From: eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett)
Subject: No Cowboys 'D' in Pro Bowl
Organization: Abode Computer Systems
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 19:53:16 GMT

Does anyone feel it was right that no Dallas Cowboy players made it to the Pro
Bowl this year? They have the #1 defense in the league. Granted their defense
is much more a 'team' defense rather than a couple of players excelling at a
certain position, I feel that they at least deserved one person from their
squad on the Pro Bowl roster to represent the team. I know that the Pro Bowl
rosters are voted on.... I just makes me mad that the Cowboys have worked so
hard on defense this year and got the #1 ranking and no one from the team made
it to the Pro Bowl.

Eric

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