From: dbd@urartu.sdpa.org (David Davidian)
Subject: Re: Serdar's admirer!!! (Re: Merry Christmas, Argic)
Summary: Is Hilmi Eren behind door #1,#2, or #3
Keywords: Faruk the fool 
Organization: S.D.P.A. Center for Regional Studies
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:42:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.115035.21138@kth.se> hilmi-er@tess.enet.dec.com (Hilmi
Eren) response to Yannis Schoinas who wrote:

[YS] faruk@bcars6f5.BNR.CA (Faruk od Bosne) writes:

[F] I would like to extend my thanks to Serdar Argic in revealing us the truth 
[F] about the events in Turkey during WW1. Before reading his articles I have 
[F] suspected (altough never believed) that Turks massacred Armenians during 
[F] a campaign of defending the very existance of their homeland. His thorough 
[F] documentation showed that Armenians were in fact massacreing Turks in 
[F] unprotected villages while Turkish Army was busy defending the country. 
[F] However, for some people the truth seems to be very painful. As the case 
[F] is, Serdar, this (desperation?) is their problem, not yours. Thanks again 
[F] and keep up good work. May I extend very best wishes in upcoming year.

In response to the flaming "[F]", Yannis Schoinas noted:

[YS] Yes, it is Christmas and it's this time of the year that miracles do
[YS] happen. And even Serdar Argic, the most despised net persona, the lover 
[YS] of the kill files, the (in)famous broken AI program, has found an admirer.
[YS] Days of magic and grace,:-).
[YS]
[YS] Perhaps, I should get Serdar out of my kill file these loving days. Don't 
[YS] you think that I was too mean to have kept him there for so long?
[YS]
[YS]					Enjoy the holidays,
[YS]					     Yannis.
[YS]
[YS] ps: Faruk, you were kidding, right?

[HE] PS2: No, i think he was not kidding, and i agree with him.
[HE]      If you don't have anything sensible to say then shut up!

Well, just what do you agree with? If you agree with Mr. [F], then you must
be a fool. If you agree with what he agrees with you must also agree with
Huseyin Necati, the Ankara's Young Turk Responsible Secretary who, during the
11th sitting (March 5, 1919) of the WWI Turkish War Trials, was characterized
by the former mutasarrif of Yozgat, Cemal by the following story:

 "It is a bizarre story. A short, slim, and blondish man, he came to me one
  day with a piece of paper which he wouldn't show me, but which purported to
  be an order from Atif, governor of Ankara. Necati then told me that he was
  a political agent in Azerbaijan when Armenian bands 'massacred Muslims there.
  We must retaliate now with the extermination of the local Armenians.' I
  replied as follows: 'This is not Azerbaijan and there are no Armenian bands
  massacring Muslims. You were a former gendarme. What political business did
  you have in the Caucasus? To me you are not an official, you have no
  responsibilities. You are not willing to show me that piece of paper in
  your hand.' He repeated his proposal of massacre, adding: 'This proposal
  reflects the will of the Ittihad's [Young Turk] central committee." My 
  response was: 'If the central committee indeed wills it, let it communicate
  directly with the government, the only instance from which I can take
  orders.' Disgruntled, Necati left for Corum and I was dismissed within
  about fifteen days." 

OK, Eren, with which do you agree with?

1) If you agree with Faruk the Bosnian, you are a fool, as is he,

2) If you agree with what Faruk the Bosnian claims is correct, you are a 
   revisionist,

3) If you agree with the accounts of the 1919 Turkish War Trails, you are in
   agreement with history but in disagreement with both (1) & (2).

So tell us, are you behind door #1, door #2, door #3, or are you still in the
closet!


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David Davidian <dbd@urartu.sdpa.org>  |  "The Regular Army of the Ottomans was 
SDPA Center for Regional Studies      |   entirely innocent of the Armenian 
P.O. Box 382761                       |   massacres." - Inspector General of 
Cambridge, MA 02238                   |   the Turkish forces in Armenia, WWI 
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