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From: rwa@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Ross Alexander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: avoiding Solaris
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:07:25 GMT

casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik) writes:
> > [re: BSDi for Sparc]
>And the other question: on which Sun hardware will it run? What
>periferals will it support? I expect that there will be much
>more software for Solaris 2.x than BSDI.
>I expect that BSDI for SPARCs will be limited to OS classes,
>OS research projects and home use.

I expect that use of BSDi for Sparc will be restricted to experienced
people who like the BSD Un*x semantics and admistrative model better
than the SysVr4 semantics and admin model.  This is hardly, IMHO, a
restriction.

regards,
Ross

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: bern@Uni-Trier.DE (Jochen Bern)
Subject: HELP: User on Directory Subtree? (FAQ?)
Originator: bern@kleopatra
Organization: Theor. CS, FB IV / CS, Univ. of Trier, Germany (Internet TI.Uni-Trier.DE)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:43:48 GMT

I'm just trying to establish public restricted Access to my Cluster Server.
Building anon FTP was done in a Minute (thanks, Peter N. Lewis!). Unfortu-
nately, I will have to grant certain Users interactive Access but still keep
them in a Sub-Directory-Tree like anon FTP is trapped in /pub. I know that
this requires copying all Executables to the Subtree, probably making anon
FTP unsecure - so what, I'll disable it for the Time needed. However, I wasn't
able so far to create a User with restricted Access using chroot. I tried to
include a complete chroot Command in the Shell Field of /etc/passwd, but it
seems that the Login Process reads this, tries to find a File with this Name,
and exits on Error. Anybody knows how to munch this?

My Setup:
SPARCstation 2 Clone
SunOS 4.1.2
NIS, DNS outside the Cluster, using NIS 'B=-b' Option
Having SEPARATE "/etc" Files for Server and Cluster
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From: khushro@niagara.eecs.umich.edu (Khushro Shahookar)
Subject: Need public domain email list software
Reply-To: khushro@niagara.eecs.umich.edu (Khushro Shahookar)
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:44:07 GMT

I need public domain software for running a mailing list, especially for
automatic entry of new subscriber data into a database file. Any names I
can look
up on archie?

I know a simple awk script can do this, but I am wondering whether anything 
I write will be able to handle various kinds of email addresses. Does it always
work if we take the exact address in the From: field and put it in the
mailing list? 

Please reply by email to khushro@eecs.umich.edu
Thanks.


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From: sacks@panther.mot.com (Dennis Sacks)
Subject: Re: avoiding Solaris
Reply-To: sacks@netmgr.mot.com
Organization: Info Enterprises
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:35:39 GMT

Regarding the question about whether there are operating systems for
suns other than SunOS.

My local sun technical wiz mentioned that DEC is selling OSF/1 for Suns!

My .02 worth: What I've seen of Sol2/SVR4 looks better than
HP-UX and not as weird as AIX. You want real hair pulling, eyeball bouncing OS fun,
look at these OS choices. Solaris 2.0 may start to look better and better to you.

Decisions like moving from BSD to SVR4 are ugly but every vender makes major changes. Get used to it. People like bashing Sun, but I know a heck of a lot of people who are
on other boxes (higher performance even) that are wishing they had Suns.

Fun it is not, but keep things in perspective. You can get bad treatment anywhere.

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From: aki!wegmann (Frank Wegmann)
Subject: Re: X client clean-up when X server goes away?
Organization: Private/FRG
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:12:43 GMT

In article <69685@cup.portal.com> MikeSummers@cup.portal.com (Michael -  
Summers) writes:
> I have Mac user's running MacX 1.1.7 accessing an application on a
> SPARCserver, is there anyway to know when the server side has  
disappeared
> so that the client can clean-up any leftover application processes and
> then quit?
> 
As far as I know, MacX exits very cleanly all still existing processes  
(this is the experience I made with MacX 1.1). Besides, Apple shipped MacX  
1.2

Frank

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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Question Regarding Solaris RTU Licensing
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:15:07 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>*My* sun rep carefully explained to me that I only needed additional RTUs for
>users connected via direct serial lines.  Ptys are free!  I assumed that the
>logic behind this is that network users must already be sat at a SPARCstation
>for which they already have a licence...

No, I think the "logic" behind that, if it's based on AT&T's SV
licensing scheme, is that the AT&T person who came up with it wasn't
thinking very carefully about it ("Remote login?  What's that?").
From: pas@wupost.wustl.edu (Paul Schoening)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: sendmail error: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: net hang reading from ...
Keywords: sendmail
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:50:33 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: informatics.wustl.edu

Recently the following error has been appearing.  Does anyone know
what it means and any possible causes.  

    Nov 19 08:28:08 informatics sendmail[3137]: NOQUEUE: SYSERR: net 
    hang reading from vault2: Connection timed out

Thanks.

Paul Schoening
Washington University School of Medicine
St. Louis, MO
From: cgjks1@hpb.lut.ac.uk (James Soutter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: /dev/printer
Date: 21 Nov 92 21:22:41 GMT
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

elias@mvax.uakom.cs wrote:
: Hi !
: 
: My printer doesn't print, I have tested port, cable, printer with
: other machine - all O.K. I have found there is no /dev/printer
: file - maybe it's the problem. How can I create it ( it's
: a socket file 0 length ) ?
: 
: Thanks,
: 
: Lubos.Elias@uakom.cs


It depends on how the printer is connected to your machine.

I just connected a printer to serial port A of a SPARCstation IPX.
Serial port A corresponds to /dev/ttya and so I had to create
/dev/lp using...

	ln /dev/ttya /dev/lp

/dev/lp is the default printer device, eg if another device
is not specified in the printcap entry for the printer then /dev/lp
will be used.  See the manual page of printcap(5) for more details.

If you need to create /dev/printer then you can create it in a similar
way.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: sg@gup.uni-linz.ac.at (Siegfried Grabner,GuP)
Subject: NIS Problem with sendmail?
Reply-To: sg@gup.uni-linz.ac.at
Organization: Johannes Kepler Universitaet
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:49:38 GMT


I have the following NIS problem in connection with sendmail:

I am running SunOS 4.1.2 on a SPARC 2. The machine is configured as a NIS client. The NIS server is a SPARC ELC running SunOS 4.1.1. As far as I can say both machines are set up correctly in our NIS domain. 
Now I wanted to configure sendmail on the NIS client. If I try to send mail to anyone on the NIS client locally or from another machine, I get the following error message on the NIS client:

NIS: server not responding for domain "noname"; still trying.
NIS: server not responding for domain "noname"; still trying.
NIS: server not responding for domain "noname"; still trying.
NIS: server not responding for domain "noname"; still trying.
..

The domainname on both server and client is set up correctly.

So if anybody out there has any suggestions for me please help.

many thanks in advance

siegi
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From: UKELLER@CIPVAX.BIOLAN.UNI-KOELN.DE (Udo Keller)
Subject: PC-NFS: differences between 3.5 and 4.0?
Organization: BIOLAN - COLOGNE UNIVERSITY (FRG)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 16:34:51 GMT
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Dear Netlanders,

as SUN is not able to explain the diffs between PC-NFS 3.5 and 4.0 to
me, could anyone of you be so kind to give me the major new features
of the 4.0 release...?

Cheers,
Udo

U.Keller - BIOLAN Management - Cologne Univ
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.admin:8378 comp.windows.open-look:4557
From: russell@gssec.bt.co.uk (Russell Ritchie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Help: cannot start "openwin -nosunview"...
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:50:25 GMT
Organization: BT Glasgow Systems and Software Engineering Centre, Scotland.

Perhaps this should be in the FAQ:

 % $OPENWINHOME/bin/openwin -nosunview
 ...load evq module failure occurs...
 % su
 Password: <foobarbaz>
 # $OPENWINHOME/bin/install_openwin
 ... set OPENWINHOME and retry if necessary...
 ... installs the various modules in /etc/openwin ...
 # exit
 % $OPENWINHOME/bin/openwin -nosunview
 ...works correctly...
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From: keith@rss.dl.nec.com (Keith Becker)
Subject: sendmail problem
Organization: NEC America
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:37:51 GMT

I have a problem with a sparc2 on our network. When it's rebooted
the sendmail process is started up but it doesn't seem to actually
work. When I send mail to a person on this machine the server routes
it correctly to the system, but it never gets out of the local mail
queue. To further confound matters, if I simply kill the sendmail
process and restart it, it works! Seems like something fishy is
going on with the timing of when the process is started in rc.local,
but I can't figure out what. The rc.local file is basically the same
as any other machine on the net, except it starts up a little snmp
process at the end (well past the sendmail invocation).

Any help I can get on where to look next would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,

Keith Becker
NEC America
Richardson, TX
(email: keith.becker@rss.dl.nec.com)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: aki!wegmann (Frank Wegmann)
Subject: Re: Sun software support needed?
Organization: Private/FRG
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:08:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.201317.1211@pacdata.uucp> jimh@pacdata.com (Jim  
Harkins) writes:
> Our software support for the Suns expires next month and I'm thinking of
> dropping it.  My thinking is that the new stuff coming out is Solaris,  
and
> I have no intention of installing Solaris on any of my boxes.  I haven't  
yet
> been helped much by the call-in service.  Not a reflection on Sun, but I
> seem to screw up like no one has screwed up before and they've never run
> across my problems before. 
> 
> So, any pros/cons about cutting my tether?

Although there may be differences between Sun USA and Sun Germany I  
consider those expensive support contract not as the right thing. Until  
now I was always able to solve my problems alone or with knowledgeable  
friends.
For example, when we hooked up that SUN CD-ROM player on our old Sun-4/110  
the guy at Sun told us that this could simply not work. Friendly as they  
were they even sent us a plan about how to customize a SCSI1-SCSI2 cable.  
In the end it came out that this plan contained some mistakes (two lines  
were exchanged!).

Sometimes I've got the feeling that Sun representatives rest on their  
laurels and the same holds true for the service people. Although there  
seems to be some hope that things gonna change I, personally, wold not  
renew that contract.

Frank

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From: zclc09@npbu018.hou.amoco.com (Campbell, Chuck)
Subject: Question Regarding Solaris RTU Licensing
Reply-To: zclc09@npbu018.hou.amoco.com
Organization: Amoco
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:49:10 GMT

I have a question regarding licensing Sun Solaris RTU's for X-Terminals.
I am considering purchasing a number of X-Terminals as an alternative to
placing a Sun workstation on every desktop.  I am confused as to whether
I need to purchase any additional RTU's for the operating system from
Sun for these new systems.

I spoke to a Sun sales rep. who advised me to go ahead and purchase 
additional RTU's.  However, when I looked in my Sun pricing catalog (May
19, 1992 pg. 75), I noticed that the description for the RTU upgrades
reads as follows:

Right-to-Use Licenses for Solaris on Sun Systems

The description also mentions that these RTU upgrades "can only be
purchased with a system or a standalone CPU board on the same order".
Both of these things taken together make me think that this RTU might be
applicable *only* to Sun platforms.

Does anyone have a better feel as to what the licensing issue really is?
Obviously, I want to do the right thing, but I'm not certain just exactly
what the "right thing" is.  Hopefully someone out there who has already 
gone throught this sort of thing can straighten me out.

E-mail responses would be appreciated.  I would be happy to summarize the
responses and re-post at a later date.

Thanks,  Chuck

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From: rc@netarch.com (Ran-Chi Huang)
Subject: Re: Can't build kernel after upgrade to 4.1.3
Organization: Network Architecture Consulting
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:41:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.070858.1986@attain.icd.teradyne.com> jxh@certes.icd.teradyne.com (Jim Hickstein) writes:
>I just upgraded my 4/670-140 to 4.1.3, from 4.1.1 (skipping 4.1.2), and
>everything went fairly smoothly, until I tried to rebuild my custom
>kernel.  When make tries to link vmunix, I get the following unresolved
>references:
>
>loading vmunix
>ld: Undefined symbol
>   _maxasynchio_cached
>   _perproc_maxasynchio
>*** Error code 2

I installed my workstation to Solaris 1.1 (SunOS 4.1.3) and configured
it with a new kernel and it worked just fine. I was previously running 
SunOS 4.1.1.

Regards
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From: alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen)
Subject: Why does pwdauthd die every few days?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:19:05 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

I am running the password authorization daemon (shadow passwords) on SunOS
4.1.3 without the rest of the C2 security package. This generally works fine.

However, every few days, I try to log in only to get a message that the
pwdauthd is not running. At that point, all I can do is L1-A, sync, and reboot.

Now, I can work around this (I think) by running a job under cron that checks
for pwdauthd and restarts it if it's not present. However, this is beginning
to uncomfortably resemble A/UX; I'd rather not resort to such hacks.

In case it matters, this is a Sparc 2, 16MB, almost entirely unloaded. (It is
possible that days go by without a login. Perhaps the authd dies of
loneliness?)

Does anyone have any clue as to what's going on?

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From: mjo@slee01.srl.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Need public domain email list software
Date: 18 Nov 1992 00:08:17 GMT
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
Reply-To: "Mike O'Connor" <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: slee01.srl.ford.com

In article <1992Nov17.184407.15764@zip.eecs.umich.edu> khushro@niagara.eecs.umich.edu (Khushro Shahookar) writes:

:I need public domain software for running a mailing list, especially for
:automatic entry of new subscriber data into a database file. Any names I

You want majordomo, available for anonymous FTP from ftp.greatcircle.com.

:Please reply by email to khushro@eecs.umich.edu

This has been done as well.

						...Mike

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From: thigpen@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Keith Thigpen)
Subject: Sun 2 Shoebox controller jumper setup
Summary: Looking for jumper setting for shoebox at SCSI address 1
Keywords: sun jumper switch 
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:23:05 GMT


I have a sun2 shoebox whose bus address is '2' and I need to change it to '1'.
It is a Micropolis 1355. Anyone have the settings for the internal jumpers?
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From: krt@cbnews.cb.att.com (kenneth.r.tishenkel)
Subject: Network management tool
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:04:37 GMT
Keywords: \

Can anyone recomend a network management tool for the SUN that will help

the system administrator in his daily tasks. 

Would like the tool to be able to do the following:



 1. Control User accounts.

 2. Propagate updates to all machines on the network

 3. Security

 4. Bring on-line new workstations. ( 15 min. )


We have been looking at the DECathena product, but would like to see
what else is on the market.          


 Please send Email or respond to this note.


                          -Ken Tishenkel
                           cblpe!krt     
                           AT&T Bell Laboratories

    

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From: berliner@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM (Brian Berliner)
Subject: Re: fast restores
Keywords: restore, speedup
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 15:13:16 GMT

In <1992Nov23.043712.2792@cs.uow.edu.au> pdg@cs.uow.edu.au (Peter Gray) writes:
>Below is a program I wrote to turn on delayed
>I/O while doing restores. It improves the speed
>of restores by about 500% on my machines.

This "feature" was driven by the Backup Copilot product, which uses it in
exactly the way that you describe -- to improve the speed of full restores.
We do not recommend using this feature on file systems with data that you
care about, however.  It is ideally suited for disaster recovery, though,
where you might not care if the machine crashes while in the middle of the
file system restore -- as long as it doesn't happen 5 times in a row, since
that's the improvement that you noted (we've measured higher, but it
depends on a number of factors).

Also, Backup Copilot includes a utility also called "fastfs".  It is very
much like yours, but a bit more feature filled -- ours can show you the
status of all mounted file systems with a single call.  But that's about
the only big difference.

>I also use it for /tmp rather than running tmpfs.

I wouldn't recommend that.  Only even think about doing this if your /tmp
is its own file system.  Otherwise, you will be disabling safe mode for
your root file system, which is not a good idea.  I'd just use tmpfs for
/tmp.  It will be faster than a "fastfs-enabled" /tmp UFS file system.

	-Brian
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From: sdore@zeppelin.inesc.pt (Sergio F.Dore Soares)
Subject: DNS/IP
Organization: INESC, Lisboa Portugal
Distribution: comp.sys.sun.admin
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:42:14 GMT


I would like to know why I can only use the number IP instead the DNS
name on SunOs 4.1.2 ? If I put ftp 123.23.44 it works but if I put ftp
csu.bu.edu it doesn't work and apears "unknown host: csu.bu.edu". Is it
possible to resolve this problem ?
Thanks in advance,

                        Sergio. 
                        sdore@bocage.inesc.pt
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From: UKELLER@CIPVAX.BIOLAN.UNI-KOELN.DE (Udo Keller)
Subject: PC-NFS: remote boot possible?
Organization: BIOLAN - COLOGNE UNIVERSITY (FRG)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 08:04:13 GMT
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Dear Netlanders,

I hope this is not a FAQ, anyway:
Did one of you manage  to let PCs that have a WD8003 ethernet card
plugged in do a remote boot from a workstation?

Thanks for your help,

Udo Keller
BIOLAN Management - Cologne Univ
ukeller@biolan.uni-koeln.de
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From: adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: Can I download news to my PC?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:22:51 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.140431.288@evb.com> mahesh@evb.com writes:
"My colleagues are on the road very often. They are using
"Portable mail to download email from our Unix machines to
"their laptops to read email and thus save $$ on phone
"bills. They want to download news from these unix machines
"so that we can save some more $$$ !!!! Are there any
"public domain <grin> packages or commercially available
"packages which will do this?

waffle turns your peecee into a news node; there's a newsgroup for it.

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