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From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Man-dO-lin
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:55:04 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

I too love to fiddle with string instruments.  I mostly play basses,
guitars, and pianos, but I've played anything else I can get my relatively
clean medium-sized mits onto.

Regarding mandolins: yes they are great fun and good for getting laid.
You can also turn Zep fans into mush by learning a few of their old dittys.
I'd love to see more transcriptions, although I'm mandolinless right now.

Regarding sitars: I had the privilege of babysitting one for a few months.
Drove me nuts.  Apparently, you only fret one string, and the rest are
drones, not unlike a bagpipe.  The frets sit up off the fret board, and the
frets are also moveable (they slide up and down the neck).  For those
reasons it is a very hard beast to tame, since finger pressure varies pitch
(which is actually part of the sitars unique sound).  I never figured out
how to tune it, or string it, or where to place the frets, so I ended up
just dicking around with it, and got pretty good at making it sound like
it was being played by someone with a general clue.  I never found anyone
who could help me play it, so I just had fun.  Hard as hell to hold, too.
Anybody out there know the actual scoop, as opposed to this factless drivel?

Michael Breen
singing and philosophizing
(and not above opening up the piano and plucking those lovely fat strings)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: ivaliote@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Lotus )
Subject: Re: Strat for Sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:55:57 GMT

Well, even though there was no article, what specific kind of Strat is it
and how much are you looking to get for it?

Curious (interested)

Matt I.
From: MIZUTANT@fred.wharton.upenn.edu (Taka Mizutani)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Sperzel Locking Tuners
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:45:45 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.guitar
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec14.182412.18797@news.mentorg.com>,
andyb@andyb.mentorg.com (Andy Bishop) wrote:
: 
: I put some Sperzels on my '62 reissue Strat and they worked great. 
Changing strings is s snap also...just thread it straight through the
tuner, lock it by twisting the underside of the tuner, cut off excess
string, and then bring into tune in about 1 wrap....less wraps, less string
slippage...pretty neat!
: 
:
> Andy Bishop                                | Mentor Graphics Corporation
> andyb@MENTORG.COM                          | Framework Products Division
>  ...{sequent, apollo, uunet}!mntgfx!andyb  | 503/685-7000 x3684 
>                                            | 503/685-1599 FAX

Just a quick question here: 
I have a '91 American Standard Stratocaster, and I was wondering if I can
install Sperzels on my guitar. Are the holes where the tuners mount
standard? If not, what size do I need? What's a fair price for a set of
Sperzels?

Thanks,
Taka Mizutani
MIZUTANT@fred.wharton.upenn.edu
From: earlsie@think.com (Mike Earls)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: EMG pickups for a Tele
Date: 16 Dec 1992 20:01:52 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: quicksilver.think.com


I'm about to replace the stock pickups of my '84 Tele with EMGs.  Does
anyone have any comments or suggestions before I do this?  Any Tele players
out there using EMGs right now?

Thanks.

Mike Earls 
<earlsie@think.com>
Thinking Machines Corporation
Cambridge MA 02142
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: juggle@athena.mit.edu (furious axe demon)
Subject: Re: mandolin tab
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:30:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.233134.26571@samba.oit.unc.edu> elessar@PHYSICS.UNC.EDU (Shawn Mehan) writes:

>Hi ho. I sense a dearth of any mandoin tabs out there and thought some
>people actually might get some use out of some. . .
 
> |                                    |                                   |
>E|------------------------------------|-----------------------------------|
> |4                                   |                                   |
>A|------------------------------------|--0-0-0-0-------2-------5----------|
> |4                                   |                                   |
>D|----R--------0--------4-------5-----|-----------------------------------|
> |                                    |                                   |
>G|------------------------------------|-----------------------------------|


Hmm. . .  Excuse my possible ignorance, but isn't this tabbed
upside-down??  (or maybe lefty?)

I'm not really sure how Mandolins are tuned (never having played one),
but I would imagine that they are tuned with the bass strings on top like a 
guitar and bass, etc.  

They do have eight double-strings kind of like a twelve string guitar,
right?  They aren't strung with high strings on top, or tuned to sevenths
are they?

Any mandolin experts out there want to put in their $.02??  Does guitar
skill transfer over to Mandolins?  how many frets do these things have
anyway?

	Sincerely,
	-juggle-
From: lturner@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Louis Turner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Marshall Valvestate Amp
Summary: Marshall Valvestate Amp Comments
Keywords: Marshall VAlvestate
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:34:18 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



Does any one have any comments good or bad about the new
Marshall Valvestate amps. I am interseted in the 80watt
stereo chorus combo.  

Thanks 

Hamp
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
From: uh311ae@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Henrik Klagges)
Subject: Re: Rocktron Intellifex
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:38:40 GMT


In short: It is very good. No complaints at all. Ultra-low noise
operation. Before I bought it, I asked on the net (here) and got
only ++ replies. Still true.
Cheers, Henrik
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen)
Subject: Re: Martin guitars
Organization: Ripoff Industries
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:04:35 GMT

Jan Behrend, Modula (MOD21291@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de) wrote:

:  old Dreadnaught for a good price, you'll never regret buying it.

	I know what you're talkin' about. :-) I have a custom shop 
	Martin, jumbo size. But you see, people have so different
	requirements, especially in relation to the price of the 
	instrument. Yes, handmade wooden guitars are from a different 
	planet than $100 plywood wonders of the east.  I understand why
	cheaper, not-so-well-made guitars exist. But you shouldn't 
	expect too much of them. There is something wrong attitude-wise
	when everybody accepts expensive, say, violins, of course a decent
	violin costs $20k, and the bow might be $5000, but $2000 acoustic
	guitar is horribly expensive. Yet there is a lot of same principles
	in making both instruments, same kind of quality requirements for
	largely the same materials. 

	What do you all think ?

	Pasi  
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From: etlnbb@etlxd30.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Odyssey Attila info?
Date: 12 Dec 92 09:23:25 GMT
Reply-To: etlnbb@etlxd30.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson

I've had an Odyssey Attila six string for about 10 years but still know little 	
about the company. I believe it is/was a Canadian company which only nade a few
models. 
The info I know:

The body is red stained Canadian Ash with a rosewood neck.
It was supposed to have Bartolini humbuckers but has DiMarzio ones instead.
The controls: 1 volume and tone and coil switch per humbucker and a phase switch
Also, obviously has pickup selector.

It has 24 frets and is a joy to play!

Anyone got any info about the company/other models/the Attila?

Views on the Attila

Neil.......
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: almanb@sr.hp.com (Bob Alman)
Subject: Re: Looking for opinions on Seagull and Guild guitars
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:53:10 GMT
Organization: HP Sonoma County (SRSD/MWTD/MID)
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

I would like to offer some caution/advice when trying out guitars in the shop.
If there is more than oaen copy on hand try them all unless you really hate the
first one.  I found the taylor I bought to be the best of the bunch that I
looked at because of some subtle differences between each guitar even though
they were all the same model!  Next, look at the strings to see if they are
old, crappy strings that are dirty and /or corroded. I asked the salesman to
change the strings on one of the models I wanted and the difference was truly
amazing! If you are going to spend $1000 or more on a guitar, look, feel, and
listen closely. Also make sure that they have set up the guitar correctly; like
adjusting the neck or bridge etc (electric or acoustic). Make sure the dealer
is reputable: I bought a strat squier and took it home. I really didn't like it
so I called them up (Guitar Showcase) and they said bring it in. Got my money
back and turned around an bought a standard strat. 15 min of playing a guitar
may not tell all. Be fussy!

A side note: SHUBB make an absolutely fabulous capo for about $15. Works on my
12 string, my 6 string, and my strat!

--
Bob Alman  1-707-577-4148 almanb@sr.hp.com
From: slqmr@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: REQ: How do you "fix" fret buzz?
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:44:31 MDT
Organization: Utah State University


	I'm getting some serious fret buzz off my acoustic and now its starting
on my electric too. How do you remedy this?

	CB Ramone

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: stephen@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (Stephen Schimpf)
Subject: Fender HMX
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:45:03 PST

I've seen but never taken a good look at these new Fender HMX guitars.
Does anybody out there who has one or has played one care to comment
on them? I'm not looking to buy, I'm just interested in knowing more
about them.

Thanks.

Stephen



Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: ohumukin@spectra.com (Kawika Ohumukini)
Subject: Re: speed picking
Organization: Spectragraphics Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 18:22:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.162714.26464@Princeton.EDU> ssborick@pooh.Princeton.EDU (Steve Borick) writes:
>
>Hello guitar fans --
>
>   Since I started reading the net a week or so ago, I've been meaning to
>post a particular question which should interest many guitarists.  It seems
>that a lot of people these days (myself included) are into this speed
>picking thing, e.g. playing 16th notes at around 200 beats per minute, and
>picking every note.  Many interesting and challenging exercise are around,
>often with the recommendation to "start at slow tempos and gradually   
>increase."  Given that each person may have a physical limit to how fast
>she or he can play, how many of you have had success with "starting slowly 
>and gradually increasing speed" until you have reached a comfortable limit?
>I've always been too impatient to hang around those slow tempos, and have
>thought that by pushing myself to higher speeds my technique would
>adapt.  As for technique, do you shredders often worry about right hand    
>movement?  After seeing Paul Gilbert's first video, I'm sort of obsessed.
>Gilbert's right hand harldy moves, even when he's burning.  Did he acquire
>that skill by practice, or was he born with it?  For anyone reading who has
>acquired it, I'd love to know how you did it.  These days I'm watching
>my hands in a mirror.   One more quick question.  Can electric shedders
>bring the same awesome economy to acoustic guitars, or do they need to 
>work a bit harder?
>    It is true that pure speed is not the be-all and end-all of guitar, but
>it sure would be nice to have it when you need it.  Pick and grin, my friends.

TO EACH THEIR OWN !!!

For me personally I like both.  To play some players songs you have to
be aware of sweeping, arpeggios over all 6 strings and 12 frets, 
walking up and down as you sweep, intricate finger patterns, slides, 
bends, weird-string-off-the-neck stuff, multiple string bends, counter
bends and all kinds of other things like that.  Remember these are just
tools of the trade.  The more tools you have, the more you can craft
and take yourself and the audience on a journey and back.

As for originals I like sweeps, arpeggios that vary slightly then repeat,
finger picking, intricate chords.  my $.02.

Kawika 
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: elessar@PHYSICS.UNC.EDU (Shawn Mehan)
Subject: Re: mandolin tab
Organization: Dept. of Physics and Astronomy, Univ. of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:25:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.033019.4577@athena.mit.edu>, juggle@athena.mit.edu (furious axe demon) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec12.233134.26571@samba.oit.unc.edu> elessar@PHYSICS.UNC.EDU (Shawn Mehan) writes:
|> 
|> >Hi ho. I sense a dearth of any mandoin tabs out there and thought some
|> >people actually might get some use out of some. . .
|>  
|> > |                                    |                                   |
|> >E|------------------------------------|-----------------------------------|
|> > |4                                   |                                   |
|> >A|------------------------------------|--0-0-0-0-------2-------5----------|
|> > |4                                   |                                   |
|> >D|----R--------0--------4-------5-----|-----------------------------------|
|> > |                                    |                                   |
|> >G|------------------------------------|-----------------------------------|
|> 
|> 
|> Hmm. . .  Excuse my possible ignorance, but isn't this tabbed
|> upside-down??  (or maybe lefty?)

Well, hmmm. If a guitar tab is, as i think it is, like this:

E----
B----
G----
D----
A----
E----  with this being the bass string, then my tab is correct. The lowest
note possible in std tuning of a mandolin is fret 3 of the low E string
on a std tuned guitar, namely low G.

|> 
|> I'm not really sure how Mandolins are tuned (never having played one),
|> but I would imagine that they are tuned with the bass strings on top like a 
|> guitar and bass, etc.  
In fact they are tuned like a guitar and bass in the sense of having the 
thicker strings on the top of the fret board.

|> 
|> They do have eight double-strings kind of like a twelve string guitar,
|> right?  They aren't strung with high strings on top, or tuned to sevenths
|> are they?
They do have 8 strings in groups of 2's. They have the exeact same tuning
as a violin or 4-string banjo. I am not sure about a 5 string but would like to 
know if that 5th string is just thrown in there on top of this 4string tuning?

|> 
|> Any mandolin experts out there want to put in their $.02??  Does guitar
|> skill transfer over to Mandolins?  how many frets do these things have
|> anyway?
That is my $.02. Hope that answers your ???'s. As for frets, depends on your
mandolin. Should have at least 16 on all strings, possibly more on high
strings.

|> 
|> 	Sincerely,
|> 	-juggle-
|> 
|> 


Really Sincerely,
Shawn
From: frankc@faatcrl (Frank Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: strat hard case question
Date: 17 Dec 1992 20:25:27 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Pomona, NJ	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: offserv2.faa.gov
Keywords: strat

mcl@bfomcl.enet.dec.com (Mark C. Leffler) writes:

>I just bought an American Standard Strat w/hard case (black plastic
>w/Fender logo
>molded on the front). It looks like this case is used for several
>guitars (strat, P-bass, etc.)
>from the contours inside.

>The strat was shipped with the vibrato arm un-attached. When I put it
>on, the case doesn't
>seem to close properly. If I finagle it into certain positions, I think
>it's closing without putting
>pressure on the vibrato arm, but I'm not absolutely sure.

>I'm not thrilled with taking it off & putting it on every time I put the
>guitar in the case. And, 
>the owners guide mentions something about a spring being in the hole for
>the arm, and if you
>dont leave the arm on, you should put a piece of tape over the hole so
>the spring doesn't
>fall out. Is this a mistake? I can't see why there would be a spring in
>a threaded hole.

I found myself in the same situation.  I always removed the tremolo arm,
although I think the manual recommended leaving it on.  I didn't like
putting the extra tension on the guitar.  I now use an older style hard case
which fits better, and have a tele in the new strat case.

I never found the 'spring' either.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: rnakkula@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robin J Nakkula)
Subject: Re: Martin guitars
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:22:31 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.201854.8432@newsserver.rrzn.uni-hannover.de> MOD21291@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de writes:
>Well, hi there!
>  Now I read so much about cheap "good" sounding acoustic guitars, that I cannot contain myself any longer to say that these people probably have never listened to a Martin guitar.  I'm playing a HD-28 built in 84.  This is not very old, but even in this state they sound so great that I never want to play something else but Martin.  I'm not saying that there aren't any good cheap guitars for $100, but you never ever get the sound out of it like you do out of a Martin.  If you ever have the chance to get a

n
> old Dreadnaught for a good price, you'll never regret buying it.
>

Hear, Hear!  IMHO I got a better sound and better bargain buying a new
Shenandoah (student-line) D12-28-32 (AND getting the lifetime warranty)
than I would have, buying anything non-Martin, and a comparable deal to
what I would have if I had bought a used Martin (wo/ guarantee).

Once a Martin calls you its partner, you can always identify other Martins,
either visually or aurally.  Funny about that.  

And if a Martin is whisked away from you against its will, it will try to
come back.  At least, mine did.  but that's another story.

@@@---Robin N.
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Blue tubes...again.
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:50:24 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

fdvlba@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Fort Davis VLBA site) writes:

>There is nothing bad wrong with a tube glowing blue...just a little gas.
>Gassed tubes have a unique sound, softer and less bite.  The blue comes
>from the high voltage, not the current, so biasing will not change the
>blue (until you gas the tube from too low a bias).  Fix the blue glow,
>indeed!

Nope, more current means more electrons flyin across cathode to anode and
more electrons means better chance of hitting a stray gas molecule and
ionising it. Changing the bias current will reduce the the numbers and lessen
the chance. The HT voltage will influence the velocity that these electrons
move at, that's all.

A valve is usually fitted with a device called a 'getter' whose purpose is to
try and reduce the number of stray molecules wandering around inside the
tube.

Of course if you happen to *like* this sound and don't mind changing power
valves evry couple of weeks or so, who am I to disagree?

Dave

-- 
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: dnj@barbeque.verity.com (Dave Johansen)
Subject: Re: Sperzel Locking Tuners
Reply-To: dnj@barbeque.verity.com (Dave Johansen)
Organization: Verity, Inc.  1550 Plymouth Ave, Mt. View, CA 94043
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 18:17:32 GMT

In article <MIZUTANT-171292124050@microlab19.med.upenn.edu>,
MIZUTANT@fred.wharton.upenn.edu (Taka Mizutani) writes:
> In article <1992Dec14.182412.18797@news.mentorg.com>,
> andyb@andyb.mentorg.com (Andy Bishop) wrote:
> : 
> : I put some Sperzels on my '62 reissue Strat and they worked great. 
> Changing strings is s snap also...just thread it straight through the
> tuner, lock it by twisting the underside of the tuner, cut off excess
> string, and then bring into tune in about 1 wrap....less wraps, less string
> slippage...pretty neat!
> : 
> :
> > Andy Bishop                                | Mentor Graphics Corporation
> > andyb@MENTORG.COM                          | Framework Products Division
> >  ...{sequent, apollo, uunet}!mntgfx!andyb  | 503/685-7000 x3684 
> >                                            | 503/685-1599 FAX
> 
> Just a quick question here: 
> I have a '91 American Standard Stratocaster, and I was wondering if I can
> install Sperzels on my guitar. Are the holes where the tuners mount
> standard? If not, what size do I need? What's a fair price for a set of
> Sperzels?
> 
> Thanks,
> Taka Mizutani
> MIZUTANT@fred.wharton.upenn.edu


They will bolt right up... the Am Standard has three holes under the
peg, two for the Fender "Schaller" type and one for the Sperzel type
..

I had these and I found that I can change the old-type faster than I can
change the Sperzel... This old-type is the 50's/60's/70's split shaft type.
I have seen the Sperzels for $69 in some magazine (MF I think), they make two
varieties the mini 6-in-line for the Strat and the Gibson 3+3 style...

-dnj
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: MIZUTANT@fred.wharton.upenn.edu (Taka Mizutani)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Texas Special Pickups
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:19:22 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <mike.15@vm1.mcgill.ca>, mike@vm1.mcgill.ca (Mike Woo) wrote:

 
:      Anybody know the going price for a set (3) of Fender Texas Special
 :pickups (i.e. the overwound staggered beasties on the SRV Strat)?  I'm 
 :thinking of replacing the stock pickups on my American Standard with the
 :Texas Specials.  I'd appreciate any comments/opinions from anyone who's
 :done the same.  Are there comparable models made by Seymour Duncan, 
 :Dimarzio, etc.?           
 :                                SO MANY STRATS, SO LITTLE TIME,
 :                                         Mike (Dr.) Woo 

	Try some Seymour Duncans, they make the Vintage Staggered single coils,
which are (nearly) exact replicas of the vintage single coils in a Strat,
as well as the Class of '55 (either Duncan or DiMarzio), another vintage
replica. I believe Seymour Duncan also makes models which are overwound
versoins of their vintage replicas- same kind of sound as the Texas
Specials.

Taka Mizutani
MIZUTANT@fred.wharton.upenn.edu
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA