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From: rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern)
Subject: colorado ski report at ncardata.ucar.edu ??
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:25:43 GMT
Distribution: co
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

Someone posted the following about the Colorado ski report:

> You can get this information by FTP from ncardata.ucar.edu [128.117.8.111]
> in the directory 'weather' in the file CO_ski.rpt.
> It's updated at least daily.

Well, the file has been "updated" daily, but the ski report contained in
the file is still from 11/9/92.  Why isn't the information getting updated
to the current day's report?

Does anyone know what's happening?

Thanks,
Richard Stern
rstern@col.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: grant@clarinet.com (Grant Robinson)
Subject: Re: Peak n' Peek Info
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:57:09 GMT

In article <of2GByy00iV381WnNQ@andrew.cmu.edu> jc4i+@andrew.cmu.edu (James Anders Cuddy) writes:
>Hi,
>
>    I just drove up route 79 and 90 to Toronto this past weekend (Nov
>13-15) and they already had 8 inches of GOOD, light fluffy snow.  They
>got 6 more inches while I was in Toronto and it was snowing all the way
>home.  It made for some serious slow driving! North of Niagra Falls,
>there is NO snow.  This was all due to the lake effect.  In short, it is
>a early start to what should be a great season for snow up there!  

Now all they need is some hills with more than 800 feet of vertical.  When
I lived near Toronto, we used to drive 8-10 hours (each way) every other
weekend to go skiing in Quebec or Vermont.  There's a world of difference
between the 2200 ft. at Stowe and the 800 ft. at Blue Mountain, and it's
not just a quantitative difference.  Great snow though, I lived closer to 
Lake Huron, and it wasn't unusual to have to shovel the driveway three 
times a day during snowy periods!  
-- 
Grant Robinson -- ClariNet Communications Corp, Sunnyvale, CA (408)-296-0366
From: anc@prg.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Ski's
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:24:26 GMT
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.3


Hi fellow falling down people.

This may seem a stupid question but i am desperate.

Has any nice American person any idea how much a new set of Rossiginal 4s
are there. You know from discount shops etc. And also how can i get them
from america to england without incurring the dreaded tax wot we stupid
english put on goods. I suppose i could simply get them posted to me?

Anyone know of any good discount shops there?

We seem to be paying heaps to much for this type of ski goods.

Any help would be well appreciated (sp).

Thanks and dont fall over to much.

Alan Crowder
From: davin@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Veale)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Gore-tex vs etc
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:13:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov23.201333.7748
Organization: University of Washington

fanning@NMC.ED.RAY.COM (Robert Fanning) writes:

>In article <1992Nov22.180126.18370@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> lskiclub@nyx.cs.du.edu (Lancaster SkiClub) writes:

>[stuff deleted]
>>
>>Sympatex is slightly cheaper than Gore-tex and is in fact more durable, no
>>need to was in special detergents and does not delaminate like Gore-tex
>>has been prone to. Sympatex is also a lot softer than gore-tex which means
>>the garments are more comfortable and the z-liner idea is more practical.
>>
>>                 Dan Gibson - Lancaster Uni Ski Club

>Speaking of materials... how about Bergundal (sp?) cloth.  I've only seen
>it in Columbia garments, but it talks about being water and wind resistant.
>I realize it is not supposed to be as water proof as Gortex/Sympatex...
>but what is the net experience with the cloth?
>BTW, I'm in the market for a shell I can wear skiing, hiking and biking in 
>the cold/wet New England weather.  The REI brand of Gortex-like stuff seems
>nice and less expensive than regular Gortex, but the Columbia Burgundal is
>even more in my price range.  Any opinions out there?

>Rob Fanning
>fanning@iatc.ed.ray.com

Anyone please correct me if I'm wrong, but so far as I know, Bergundtal
cloth is nothing nore than a lighty polyurethane-coated nylon with a
silicone treatment on the outside.  The breatheability comes from the fact
that the coating is very thin hand has small holes in it, and the water
repellency is from the silicone.  Goretex is far superior in my opinion,
and is probably worth the extra $.  Other coatings (ultrex, entrant, etc.)
are supposedly quite waterproof, but not as breatheable as Goretex.
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From: twm3@world.std.com (Thomas W Moore)
Subject: Ski Cards and Steamboat
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:44:56 GMT

A herd of us are heading out to Steamboat in late-January.  While I
understand this is part of their relatively low season, I have been
"quoted" a four out of five day ticket as being $39 a day.  I used to have
a ski card (possibly both of the two major national cards) which
offered some *very* good ticket rates besides some good prices on other
related things (meals, cars, lodging, shopping, etc).  I would appreciate
e-mail (twm3@world.std.com) on what is being offered by the ski cards
this year at Steamboat.

I will post a summary if there is sufficient interest.

Thinking snow under a bright blue sky,

-Tom

-- 
===============================================================================
"There is indeed such a thing as a free lunch - however it just isn't exactly
the lunch you had in mind." - No-No, it is On-On, twm3@world.std.com
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From: davin@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Veale)
Subject: help with Chouinard adj. probe
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:44:29 GMT

	Just this last weekend I was fortunate enough to snap the bottom section
of one of my Chouinard ski poles.  I like the poles, and would like to
replace the section without paying for an entirely new pair.  
	Does anyone out there in net-land have a single pole they would be
willing to sell, or maybe a pole with a broken top section that they would
be willing to sell?
(I'm not sure, but I think a Leki bottom section would also work.)
	I was also thinking that I might be able to use the bottom part of
a regular ski pole, so long as the diameter is compatible.  Has anyone
tried this?
From: tom@uts.amdahl.com (Tom Goodwin)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Getting from Reno to S. Lake Tahoe
Date: 21 Nov 92 19:12:04 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

> In article <1992Nov19.215256.6038@u.washington.edu>
> bassuk@stein.u.washington.edu (James Bassuk) writes:
>>BUT, why do you want to go to S. Lake Tahoe without a car for an entire
>>week?  That means you will have to ski Heavenly every day.  I can't
>>imagine anything more of drag than that!
>>Rent a car.  Go to Kirkwood, Alpine Meadows, Squaw, Homewood, Mt. Rose!

There is hourly bus service from the Reno airport "Tahoe Casino Express".
There is also the Tahoe regional transit system which should connect to 
Squaw, Alpine, Northstar, Homewood, and Diamond Peak.  There are free
shuttles to Sierra Ski Ranch, and I think Kirkwood from South Tahoe.  The
trip from south shore to the north shore resorts could be a long one if
there is much snow at lake level, but there is also a boat service.  We
get so tied to our cars that Tahoe gets to be a massive traffic jam; you
might as well sit on a bus as in a car.
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From: sergei@is.morgan.com (Sergei Poliakoff)
Subject: Re: National Brotherhood of Skiiers?
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:50:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.153828.29540@edsr.eds.com>, hkelly@edsr.eds.com (Kelly Shuldberg) writes:

>>>trying to picture someone like Herschel Walker,
>>
>>Not certain who he is.

|> Great black running back.  Tremendously strong legs.
   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

A *WHAT* ? Is it some kind of horror movie thingy, like the Hand from
the "Adams Family" ?


Sergei
From: blane@snoopy.sanders.lockheed.com (Michael Blane)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Please! Name our ski team
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:18:15 GMT
	<1992Nov19.171441.9743@ncar.ucar.edu>
Organization: Lockheed Sanders, Inc.
In-reply-to: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu's message of 19 Nov 92 17:14:41 GMT


Hello netters,
  Our quest for the ultimate NASTAR ski team name continues.  The response 
hasn't been, well, overwhelming, so please, keep 'em coming.  To date:

  Lockheed Lust Commandos
  Sidecuts Are For Wimps
  Knockneed Skiers, Inc.
  LockHeedless Skiers
  Air Lockheed

The last three got us thinking about

 Lock Kneed Sliders

which, after trying to figure out how to spell, lost some of its original
charm.

Let's get those names coming in....

The Fair Haired Tupperware Boy and Wonder Dog Rin Tin Tin-foil (woof)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 15 Nov 1992 19:01:39 CST
From: Paul A. Larson <U37673@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Attention Chicagoans, Wilmot's open!

It's official, Wilmot mountain is actually open! It opened this Sunday, Nov. 15
with two runs and two chairs operating.  Naturally, the snow is all person-
made (trying to be PC).  I know Wilmot isn't much, but it'll fill our desire
for snow until we get a chance to get out West.  For me it's only 26 days until
I'm in Steamboat.  If you want more info on Wilmot, such as if they are still
open, here it is:  (312) 736-0787
             or... (414) 862-2361

So far, Wilmot is the only place I *know* of in the lower Wi/Mi area that's
open. Please post any other info on Midwest openings if you have them!
-Paulie
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From: glenb@sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Subject: Re: Double Black Diamonds at Mammoth
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:10:04 GMT
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD - MWTD) - Santa Rosa, Ca.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

<sigh> Double blacks. End of an era. I was (un)fortunate enough to be
standing at the base of KT22 when Fred put the second diamond on the
west faces. I heckled him to the best of my ability, but he just looked
at me and said "so...do you really think that Siberia bowl is as difficult
as the West Face?" ...I had no real come back for that one.

 ..glen
From: davin@hardy.u.washington.edu (David Veale)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Karhu xcd-gt's & Merrel boots for sale
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:44:32 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

For sale:

	Karhu XCD-GT skis, metal edged, double cambered skis,
 waxable, 200cm.  Great for backcountry touring-light telemarking.
They're an older model with grey&red topsheet, but the bases and
edges are still in good condition.  They come with coll-tex climbing
skins and waxes.  $50 obo
	Also for sale are a pair of Merrel  *Lace* boots, men's size 11.
These are the perfect boots for use with these skis.  Full black leather,
with a stitched Norwegian welt, and in great shape. $70 obo.

Reply via email or call Dave @ 206-528-5765
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: psburns@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (MAUREEN BURNS)
Subject: Re: Transplanted from Colorado to Cleveland...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 16 Nov 1992 14:00 EST  

In article <1992Nov16.143043.12701@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides) writes...

>>> Actually the Cleveland area gets a lot of snow lake effect and all) so if 
>you get really desperate, Brandywine (just east of Cleveland - 45min) is pretty
>decent for Ohio bumps.
 ^^^^^^
Uh, That's a REAL stretch!!!  :(

Maureen
From: clb@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (carl.l.blesch)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Michigan - Indianhead vs. Boyne
Keywords: Michigan midwest Indianhead Boyne UP
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:11:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories - Naperville, IL

I'm trying to decide whether to take a three-day holiday season
trip to Indianhead or Boyne. I live in the western 'burbs of
Chicago, and both hills are equidistant driving-wise (Indianhead
is just under 400 miles a little west and mostly north thru
Wisconsin, to the very western end of Upper Michigan. Boyne is
just under 400 miles around the bottom of Lake Michigan then
straight up Lower Michigan.

I'm extremely familiar with Indianhead, having skiied there since
my childhood days in Wisconsin. Of course, with Lake Michigan in
the way, Wisconsinites like me rarely traveled in Lower Michigan
(unless we were taking a trip on one of the then-plentiful Lake
Michigain car/train ferry boats). So I've never been to Boyne.
People I met from Detroit talked highly enthusiastically about
Boyne, however, and just this past year, it's been getting a
lot of positive press. So I'm tempted to get out of my rut and
try Boyne.

I'd appreciate comments from people who've skiied both. I'm an
intermediate (I'll do occasional black diamonds, but no mogul
fields please!) My son is a ski nut (he'll take the mogul
fields), and my daughter is an accomplished beginner (real
confident on skis, but a ways from paralleling).

I'll also take lodging suggestions for the Boyne area.

Thanks,
Carl Blesch
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From: maciuca@vehicle.berkeley.edu (Dragos Maciuca)
Subject: Skiing in No. Cal, Utah, Nevada (???)
Reply-To: maciuca@vehicle.Berkeley.EDU.UUCP (Dragos Maciuca)
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:47:53 GMT

I just moved to California from New Jersey and I was wondering if someone
could recommend a good place to ski within 8 hours driving of Berkeley.

I would be interested in a 1/2 BR condo that could cost around $250 per 
person per week (second week of January) including lift tickets.  Please
send me all the relevant informations (place, condo name, phone #, etc.)

Thanks
dragos

maciuca@vehicle.berkeley.edu
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From: grant@clarinet.com (Grant Robinson)
Subject: Lift tix & exchange rates...
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:38:44 GMT

While I haven't had much symapthy for those whining about lift ticket
prices lately, (nothing personal, I don't have much sympathy for whiners
in general) I have to admit, there are certain thresholds that tend to take
your breath away.  Given the sorry state of the Canadian dollar lately, my
friends will be paying over $50 for a single day's lift ticket when they
come South.

For those of us fortunate to be habiting the Southern side of the 49th
parallel, it bodes well for trips North, a single day lift ticket at 
Lake Louise, Alberta, or Whistler BC, will be a bit over $30 in US funds!
In fact, at today's exchange rates, you can knock nearly 25% off all those
nasty Canadian prices!  Anyone want to do a trip? :)
-- 
Grant Robinson -- ClariNet Communications Corp, Sunnyvale, CA (408)-296-0366
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com (Jim Beutel)
Subject: Re: SEX, SEX, SEX!!!
Reply-To: beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com
Organization: Motorola SPS ASIC, Chandler, AZ
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:48:48 GMT

Great title.

Anyway, you will probably receive a bunch of "Go here,
This is the best place" replies. Remember Opinions are 
like ass holes, we all have one.

If you are not familiar with the west. Go through a travel 
agent and look for the best package deal...! Air fare, lodging,
lift tickets and classes can be purchased for one price. That 
way at least you know your costs ahead.

Presently, Lake Tahoe, Ca. is about your best package deal. But 
check around. This change weekly.


Also, watch the weather, Last few years the Rockies and Sierra's
did not recieve much snow. And when they did it was late. We had 
more snow in the White mountains of Arizona than many resorts farther
north. Just watch the weather channel. This also changes weekly.

Your biggest selection will probably be in Salt Lake City. If you stay
in the Valley, you have MANY options for lodging. Also, with the proximity
to so many different resorts up both Cottonwood canyons, and Parleys Summit,
you wont have any trouble finding skiing to your liking or ability.

PS.

Stay out of VAIL. just because someone has money, dont mean they can ski...!
(or boat, or fly, or well most anything)


Hope that helps.
Jim





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Motorola SPS ASIC            beutel@chdasic.sps.mot.com
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From: sveint@edb.tih.no (Svein Gunnar Tjoenndal,o92b)
Subject: Re: To all of you who call yourselves skiers..
Posting-Front-End: Winix Conference v 92.05.15  1.20 (running under MS-Windows)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:15:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.194012.20161@bmw.mayo.edu>, fahje@cvdv80.mayo.edu () writes:


>
>--
>I hope you ski better than you spell.
>
>
>
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>Martin H. Fahje                              Internet: mfahje@mayo.edu
>Mayo Clinic                                  Voice: (507) 255-7568
>200 First Street SW                          FAX: (507) 255-5484
>Mail Stop 2D-342 STM            
>Rochester, MN  55905            
>*******************************************************************************

Actually, I ski a LOT better...
(better than most)

No offense meant by my first conference,
but I really wanted to know if there were any serious people here.
I got my answer:  There are.
(Although some are not, Greg).
Question:
  Is only USA discussed here, or are Europeans welcome as well?
  If any of that sorts read this, I just wondered how the season
  has started out in Southern Europe. 

My real name and adress, folks:
   (The third letter my last name you US guys can't read properly,
    but it's an o with a line across, pronounced like u in run)

       Svein Gunnar Tjnndal
       vertra 34
       7080 Heimdal
       Norway

PS! Any other allrounders on this line, or am I all alone?

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: atlef@dhhalden.no (ATLE FJOGSTAD)
Subject: Re: re: Norwegian Wood
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:01:59 GMT

In article <By191F.5rr@apollo.hp.com> cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd) writes:
>From: cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd)
>Subject: re: Norwegian Wood
>Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 21:00:51 GMT
>
>    This makes me feel very guilty, and I apologize Svein, for not
>keeping your needs in mind. I've meditated on your sig. and have
>come up with some "real" ski issues that even the Vikings should be
>able to get interested in...
>
>1. Everytime I ski glades, the damned horns sticking out of my helmet
>get caught in the branches. I tried replacing them with rubber horns,
>which would bend, but the rest of the Vikings tease me. What should I
>do ?
>
>2. As a sign of respect for the inventors of cross country skiing, I
>always wear a Viking helmet when I go. Unfortunately, it is rutting 
>season in the north woods, and moose keep attacking me. I left my
>shield home because I could not carry both it and my poles. Is anyone
>else having this problem ?
>
>3. Why is it that the disrespectful U.S. touring centers do not carry
>Tuborg beer in their bars ? Perhaps they don't know who invented this
>sport ?
>
>Any others that I missed ?      
>
>                                Have a good weekend,
>
>                                              jc in me.
>

#1. Take the horns off, and don't care about what the other Vikings say.
    I think this will help you.

#2. I don't have this problem, but I think it will help if you do as I told
    you above (#1.)

#3. Perhaps they know who invented this sport, because Tuborg is Danish.
    You should rather look for Norwegian beer like Frydenlund, Hansa, Aass,
    E.C. Dahls (Lysholmer) og Ringnes.

Atle

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From: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Weather Channel Ski Reports!
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:39:21 GMT
Reply-To: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
Organization: SCRI, Florida State University

In article <1992Nov19.142403.21757@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Puckett) writes:
>
>Why, O why, did last night's Weather Channel ski reports mention

  ... only east coast ski resorts ...

>Jim Puckett    NTI    puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov     
>Madison,AL (205)461-4922  

The Weather Channel targets its reports to the people it thinks are watching, 
based on the time of day, and also has the technical means to feed different 
reports to different regions of the country.  

In the early evening, eastern time, they hardly mention the west coast,
since those folks are still on the freeway.  After midnight eastern time, 
it is hard to get any details about cities in the east.  

--
J. A. Carr                                    |  "The New Frontier of which I  
jac@gw.scri.fsu.edu                           |  speak is not a set of promises
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: ag789@yfn.ysu.edu (Steve Birnbaum)
Subject: Cheap skiing??
Reply-To: ag789@yfn.ysu.edu (Steve Birnbaum)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:54:53 GMT


A few friends and I are trying to get a real good deal on a 
ski trip during the Christmas shool break.  We live in Ottawa, Canada so
we would have to be able to get there by car (ie: Laurentians or Vt, NY, etc.)
We don't need anything fancy, just a room and great skiing.  Thanks...

	Steve
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: gcf28@cas.org ()
Subject: Blue Knob
Summary: Info
Organization: Ohio State University, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:06:08 GMT



	   Does anyone know if Blue Knob has opened for the season yet?

      If it has , what are the conditions there? Also any info on Seven

      Springs would be helpful.


					 Thanks,

						Gwen
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