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From:         Ken <ERICKSON@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      blue Collar

Peter, you might enjoy looking at the chapter on Garden City, Kansas's
packinghouses in STRUCTURING DIVERSITY, L. Lamphere, Ed. (U. Chicago
Press 1992).  Look for anther book on the workplace with more packinghouse
stuff.  We did a 2 year ethnographic study in a packinghouse town; got
interviews with one owner & with many packers, had an interesting time
getting on the shop floor.  I did several days participation on the
processing line in Nebraska after being asked to "find some Vietnamese"
by a labor recruiter--his call turned into a "consulting" visit  with the
explicit goal of gathering infor for the ethnography, while meeting the
client's expressed (but not too genuine!) desire for input on worker
training.  If you want a copy of my MS on the subject, BITNET me.  Lamphere
has a book out about women workers that is worth noting--the title escapes
me just now--but it has to do with the shop floor.  The new book will include
shop floor stuff from Philladelphia and Miami, too.  Hope this helps. Ken E.
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Subject:      Re: shooting at Concordia U.

Could someone please send the names of the victims of the shooting? Thank you.
e-mail: raman@sjc.
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From:         WSCOTT@WOOSTER.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Mathematical Invention

Mark Horney sez:

(something to the effect of)... there are cultures where 1,2,3, MANY is
the extent of their numerical system.

I'm interested in which cultures these are. I'm suspicious that this is
a long standing myth that can be traced back to Cantor.

Bill Scott
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From:         Yvonna Lincoln <E101YL@TAMVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Other interested parties
              30 Aug 1992 14:47:28 -0800 from <JENNINGT@CGSVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>

Dear Todd Jennings:  Bill Foster, formerly of University of San Diego, and now
at Indiana University, I believe, had a student who was doing a dissertation on
 Prosocial behavior -- particularly the emergence of leadership among "ordinary
" people who did community social work, organizing, recycling, neighborhood wat
ches, and the like.  Her name was Kathy Allen, I believe.  You might, however,
want to phone or write Bill Foster, and ask him about that work.
      Yvonna Lincoln
      E101YL@TAMVM1
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From:         Gary Shank <P30GDS1@NIU.BITNET>
Subject:      too burdened down to respond...for now....

I have to plead for a bit more time from the list -- I have to
prepare a bunch of documents, and they will take a few weeks to
do.  Therefore, please grant me the indulgence of a few days to
respond to this excellent discussion.   gary shank
ps wish me luck on these administrative documents...
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From:         "Penny Oldfather" <POLDFATH@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      students' perceptions

My research focus is on students' perceptions of their motivational processes
in classrooms.  As Fred Erickson poins out in the 1992 Handbook of Research
on Curriculum, most studies of student's perceptions have been approached
in "thing slices of classroom life."  I believe that we have much to learn
from students' voices, and that students have much to gain by articulating
and reflecting on what kinds of classrooms provide meaningful learning.

There is some interesting research done by teachers who are listening carefully
 to students (Linda Christianseon, Bill Bigelow).  There are a few other
researchers who are interested in student voice (Fine, Cullinford, Edelsky).

Are there others known to those on this list who are getting at students'
perceptions, and particularly student voice through qualitative methods?  I
would appreciate your suggestions.  Thanks!

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Subject:      first crack at poststructuralism....
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Okay, let me give you a quick and dirty description of poststruct-
uralism...
Structuralism was the outgrowth of a bunch of people exploring the
work of the Swiss linguist Feerdinand de Saussure.  saussure said
tha there will come to be a science called semiology that deals
with the use of language codes to model other cultural code systems.
The idea is that these other systems are best modelled by treating
them just like they were languages.  Inherent in this idea is the
notion that there is an underlying structure beneath most surface
manifestations, where the surface codes the deeper structure.
Saussure's code notions influenced a lot of folks, including
Chomsky and Piaget, but the hard core structuralists were the ones
who took the language model most seriously.  some of the most
famous structuralists include Claude Levi-Strauss, Jacques Lacan
(whose work is coming back into favor, by the way), and A.J.
Greimas.
Fundamental to the idea of structuralism is the notion that under-
neath all the surface turmoil is a neatly coded, and usually
language-looking center.  Roland Barthes, in particular, was very
adept at peeling away surface stuff in creative ways to get to some
pretty startling centers in French popular culture.  But the ideal
of getting to the center was short-lived.  In particular, three
thinkers have led the poststructural movement:
Jean Francois Lyotard said that we are living in a postmodern age,
where there is no grand cohesive narrative to hold together cult-
ure.  If there ever was a center once to discover, it is certainly
shattered and fragmented now.
Michael Foucault said that our attempts to find the center are
simply disguised power moves, and we are less interested in find-
ing out the truth than in setting up some position and striving to
maintain its centrality via our use of power.  Foucault, if he were
still alive, would have had a field day with the Republican
family values stuff, esp. with its scarcely disguised gay bashing
themes.
Jacques Derrida has argued that all texts, esp. scientific and
rational philosophicial texts, are rhetorical in nature.  The basic
mode of reading adopted in these canonical texts is to privilege
some perspective.  Derrida further holds, though, that the very
act of privileging a perspective leads to its ultimate under-
mining.  This process he calls deconstruction.
This does very little justice to your original question, because
it is so sketchy and shallow, but it gets the ball rolling....
Gary Shank    p30gds1@mvs.cso.niu.edu
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Subject:      Conference Announcement

  The Seventeenth International Conference of the Merleau-Ponty Circle

will be held between September 24 - September 27, 1992 at Saint Joseph College,
West Hartford, CT 06117

For more information, please contact:

Dr. James Morley
Chair, Dept. of Psychology
Saint Joseph College
West Hartford, CT 06117
Tel: 203-232-4571
Fax: 203-233-5695
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From:         Nicholas Sturm <aa248@YFN.YSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: first crack at poststructuralism....

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>Okay, let me give you a quick and dirty description of poststruct-
>uralism...


...   (cut here)

To moderator only:  Apparently @deakin.oz.au  has a problem.  I received a
message I sent to QUALR-L and which was forwarded to 'csite' returned
directly to me.  I was unable to penetrate their maze.  It would appear
that this one bounced and was then forewarded to all.

You do have one user at @deakin.oz.au  who is able to get mail--perhaps
you should send a message to foreward to 'csite'.  That user is:

  CHRIS.BIGUM@DEAKIN.oz.au

  Good luck.  DEAKIN response quickly, but meaninglessly when mail
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From:         Nicholas Sturm <aa248@YFN.YSU.EDU>
Subject:      RE: infotainment & edutainment

>
>Chris,
>        Whittle Communications, based in Knoxville, Tennessee, has started
>Channel One which is broadcast into public schools.  I have heard both terms
>you mentioned used in the debate about this program.  I do not know if
>either of these terms originated with Whittle's plan, but edutainment
>certainly seems to apply in this case.
>
  Initially the idea behind the terms (although the truncations do havoc
with root origins) seemed clear.  In this case one may get another meaning
educational-containment ... educationally trapped.


>

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From:         jude <JGOETZ@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Messages from OZ

Folks:  I don't know why this message keeps popping up.  I'll try to
find out and see what can be done.  Machine dreams....j.
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>Okay, let me give you a quick and dirty description of poststruct-
>uralism...


...   (cut here)

To moderator only:  Apparently @deakin.oz.au  has a problem.  I received a
message I sent to QUALR-L and which was forwarded to 'csite' returned
directly to me.  I was unable to penetrate their maze.  It would appear
that this one bounced and was then forewarded to all.

You do have one user at @deakin.oz.au  who is able to get mail--perhaps
you should send a message to foreward to 'csite'.  That user is:

  CHRIS.BIGUM@DEAKIN.oz.au

  Good luck.  DEAKIN response quickly, but meaninglessly when mail
addressed to 'csite@deakin.oz.au'


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From:         PRESCOTT SMITH <S8486534@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU>
Subject:      The TAP program
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      The following may not be news to anyone else; it was to me.  TAP was a
Text Analysis Program for coding and retrieving lines of text.

Date: 1992-08-25 19:35:22

To:   psmith                 ON=EDUC PD=umass AD=umassmail C=us
From: kadrass@nevada.edu     ON=SATURN-GW

Subj: TAP


Dear Mr. Smith,

Thank you for your interest in TAP.  However, I am afraid that I have
discontinued the distribution of this program due to a lack of time
to properly support it.  Good luck with your research.

Kriss A. Drass

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From:         P60PMC1@NIU.BITNET
Subject:      Re: infotainment & edutainment

the rappers use this term.because blacks education is so
uncritical,rappers say rap is EDUTAINMENTgreat dissertationn
on THE PEDAGOGY OF PLACE:STRUGGLE FOR BLACK URBAN RESISTANCE>PH
phyllis cunningham
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From:         rotha@SFU.CA
Subject:      Re: Mathematical Invention
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              "mhorney@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU" at Sep 2, 92 9:24 am

I am not to hot in number theory, but I think there are different
meanings of numbers according to context.  5 not = 5 not = 5 when we
are talking about 5 dollars, 5 meters, and sentence #5.  There must
have also been a shift in meaning from the Roman to the Arabic
numerical system.  If the Romans did not see the necessity for a 0,
then there understandings or meanings of what numbers represent was
different.

With respect to ethnomathematics it would be worthwhile to read G.
Saxe's book on culture and development of mathematical understanding,
his research on the number system of the Oksapmin which is a base 27
system, but referenced to body parts.... and finally Lave's excellent
book on shoppers' algebra.  Furthermore, Scribner, Carraher, Schlieman
and a few more all have done research in the use of mathematics
(informal) in everyday contexts.

Michael
(Wolff-Michael Roth, Michael_Roth@sfu.ca)
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Subject:      HARE procedure

AERA, APA, and other professional organizations use "the HARE system" to
tally ballots when conducting elections for officers.  Can anyone out there
explain to me exactly how this system actually works?

I will appreciate the assistance.
John M. Johnston
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From:         "Katherine E Lenzo" <klenzo@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      qual research in Bay area,CA

Hi Everyone!

I'm visiting the Bay area in California for the next two weeks
and wondered if anyone out there could direct me to someone out
here who is doing qualitative research in education.  I've
started a PhD program at Ohio State, but I may be relocating
before I'm finished.  Where and for whom should I look?

Kate Lenzo
lenzo.1@osu.edu
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From:         Mike Kearl <MKEARL@TRINITY.BITNET>
Subject:      An Olympic Reflection

Between the sports commentary, NBC's Olympics programming provided rich lessons
in geography, culture, and politics.  However, one of the most interesting
insights came from a frequently-reappearing advertisement: the Diet Coke
promotion featuring Paula Abdul dancing with Groucho Marx and being served a
drink by Cary Grant.  Watching the dead peddle a soft drink reminded me of when
the makers of Pepsi-Cola entered the Thai soft drink market.  Their advertising
campaign initially used the American slogan, "Come alive, you're in the Pepsi
generation."  Only later did the company realize that the Thai translation it
was using said, "Pepsi brings your ancestors back from the dead."  But the
Thais had it right, except it's Diet Coke that is the resurrection beverage.
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Okay, let me give you a quick and dirty description of poststruct-
uralism...
Structuralism was the outgrowth of a bunch of people exploring the
work of the Swiss linguist Feerdinand de Saussure.  saussure said
tha there will come to be a science called semiology that deals
with the use of language codes to model other cultural code systems.
The idea is that these other systems are best modelled by treating
them just like they were languages.  Inherent in this idea is the
notion that there is an underlying structure beneath most surface
manifestations, where the surface codes the deeper structure.
Saussure's code notions influenced a lot of folks, including
Chomsky and Piaget, but the hard core structuralists were the ones
who took the language model most seriously.  some of the most
famous structuralists include Claude Levi-Strauss, Jacques Lacan
(whose work is coming back into favor, by the way), and A.J.
Greimas.
Fundamental to the idea of structuralism is the notion that under-
neath all the surface turmoil is a neatly coded, and usually
language-looking center.  Roland Barthes, in particular, was very
adept at peeling away surface stuff in creative ways to get to some
pretty startling centers in French popular culture.  But the ideal
of getting to the center was short-lived.  In particular, three
thinkers have led the poststructural movement:
Jean Francois Lyotard said that we are living in a postmodern age,
where there is no grand cohesive narrative to hold together cult-
ure.  If there ever was a center once to discover, it is certainly
shattered and fragmented now.
Michael Foucault said that our attempts to find the center are
simply disguised power moves, and we are less interested in find-
ing out the truth than in setting up some position and striving to
maintain its centrality via our use of power.  Foucault, if he were
still alive, would have had a field day with the Republican
family values stuff, esp. with its scarcely disguised gay bashing
themes.
Jacques Derrida has argued that all texts, esp. scientific and
rational philosophicial texts, are rhetorical in nature.  The basic
mode of reading adopted in these canonical texts is to privilege
some perspective.  Derrida further holds, though, that the very
act of privileging a perspective leads to its ultimate under-
mining.  This process he calls deconstruction.
This does very little justice to your original question, because
it is so sketchy and shallow, but it gets the ball rolling....
Gary Shank    p30gds1@mvs.cso.niu.edu
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From:         Chris.Bigum@DEAKIN.OZ.AU
Subject:      infotainment & edutainment
Comments: To: qualrs-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

I am engaged in a small research project concerned with the nexus between
education, IT and the market. The terms/categories infotainment and
edutainment appear in some press accounts of new media forms. Would anyone
have any idea about origins of the term or any useful references.

Many thanks,

Chris Bigum
Deakin University
Geelong
Victoria 3217
Australia
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From:         SED91LN@BUACCA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: infotainment & edutainment

The New York Times Magazine peice "On Language" by Safire's reseacher
McQuain on August 30 has a number of these portmanteau examples. He might
be able to give you help.
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From:         Yvonna Lincoln <E101YL@TAMVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Division J Nominations
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Julie:
Please rank the following for nominations for executive board positions:

Bill Tierney
Corinna Ethington
Ellen Brier
John Smart
Amaury Nora
Ann Austin
William Trent
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From:         Nicholas Sturm <aa248@YFN.YSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Double postings

>
>By now we know that many of us get double postings (though mine have
>stopped since last night).  Judith indicated that she is going to fix the
>problem.  But I would hate to see the network cluttered with messages on an
>old problem that an obviously competent person is already taking care of.
>
>I suggest that those who continue to experience problems send the message
>to Judith (JGOETZ@uga.cc.uga.edu).
>
>Michael
>
>Wolff-Michael Roth, Ph.D.
>Research Methods & Science Education
>Faculty of Education
>Simon Fraser University
>Burnaby, BC, Canada  V5A 1S6
>Tel:       (604) 291-3046
>FAX:      (604) 291-3203
>internet: Michael_Roth@sfu.ca
>
>
 Since most of us read out mail in chronological order, rather than anti-
chronological order, most of this redundancy is clearly a result of humans
only experiencing forward time directly while experiencing negative time
only reflectively.  Now if someone could just have turned the time back
about five days and sent us all a message to say it was already taken care of
before we read about the problem.......



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