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Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Ride em Cowboy".
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Date: 30 Dec 92 16:19:38 -0600
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: na
Organization: MSUS

In article <viking.725701701@vincent1.iastate.edu>, viking@iastate.edu (Dan
Sorenson) wrote:
> 
> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
> 
> >I say we put a private detective on her ass and expose her deepest darkest
> >innermost secrets.
> 
> 	She grew up in Denison, Iowa, a mere 100 miles from me and a town
> that has no redeeming qualities.  What else do you need?
> 

She's a product of farm chemicals.  What more can you say?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: CGKarras@world.std.com (Christopher G Karras)
Subject: Thanks;  Got Used Bike
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:28:10 GMT

Thanks to all of you who offered advice and assistance in looking for a
first bike.  After following the newspaper ads, looking at bikes at
dealers and reading lots of rec.motor and even a few current issues of
Rider, Motorcyclist and Cycle World, these are my thoughts and where it
led me.

As background, I was looking for the present Santa didn't bring me about
20 years ago and that I have been thinking about ever since I got a MC
license about 13 years ago.  I will not commute on it and it does not need
to be the fastest bike in the world.  It would also be nice to be able to
maintain it myself as the nearest dealer/mechanic is about 25 minutes away.

I rapidly decided a used bike was better value for me, especially since I
can expect to drop the bike at some point as I get better riding it.  I
also will sign up for the next MSF course, which hereabouts will be in
late March/early April.  The used bikes at dealers were priced much higher
than those from individuals, so I gave up on the idea of a
warranty--substituting instead a pre-purchase review by a local mechanic
who seemed to be able and properly motivated (he can expect my business if
there are no surprises that were not and should have been forseen).

The vertical twins in the 500cc class seemed to combine ease of work (I
won't have to synchronize 4 carbs) and decent ability to hand a very
occaisional two up ride.  A late 80s vintage seemed to offer the modern
suspension and electronics.  I did want a standard style bike.

Earlier this month I got a 1990 Suzuki GS500E with about 4,700 miles on
it.  It had been dropped at speed, but the mechanics checkout said no
structural damage and it has new paint.  It needs a tune up (that I hope
to give it in the warmer weather), but otherwise seems to be fine.  So far
I am pretty happy with it.

Thanks again for the advice here.

Chris
-- 
*******************************************************************
Christopher G. Karras
Internet:    CGKarras@world.std.com
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Application for DoD Membership
Date: 31 Dec 92 20:26:20 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3



	Please No more FAQs...I am getting my mail reader filled...well
	not really, but I have received sufficient info concerning the
	DoD. 
			
							Thanks...

								Ryan
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cobra Link Chains- Worthwhile?
Date: 29 Dec 1992 18:28:57 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 15303@rd.hydro.on.ca, jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>
>>P.S. - my present ins. co. won't ensure my H-D for
>>theft unless I have my own garage.  Change insurers
>>and fork out the bucks?
>
>Depends on what kind of deal you can get, and you should change insurers if
>you can get a decent deal. Neither of our bikes is covered for collision/
>comprehensive. The money we saved has paid for them by now, so we've won
>the bet. If you have to pay a third of the cost of the bike in coverage 
>every year, in three years you've saved the cost of the bike. Maybe 
>it's worth the risk, as well as the effort of carrying around a heavy lock.

Maybe not.  Something else to consider when placing this wager is the
downside, and remember that (1) you cannot count on your future
financial situation being the same as it is now, (2) the bike will be
crashed/stolen at the worst possible time, and (3) the DoD is
absolutely merciless on bikeless Denizens.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: It's COLD, dammit!
Date: 2 Jan 1993 05:51 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <ben.725957214@ipoint>, thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes...
]Why won't it start?  Because my clutch cable is frozen.  Tomorrow I'll
]bring a hair dryer (and an extension cord) outside to thaw it :) , but
]of course it's going to happen again the next night.
] 
]So:
] 
]    a) This shouldn't happen, right?  Should I replace the cable?
]       (The ignition key is frozen too, but I know that's nothing
]        out of the ordinary, and I know how to deal with that.)
] 
]    b) How do I prevent it from happening every night?  Should I
]       resign myself to a hair dryer session every morning?

	My suggestion: give the clutch cable (and the ignition, too) a good
shot of WD40 once they're warmed up, to displace all the water.  That's all
you need do to the ignition (until the next time it gets water in it) but the
WD40 is probably not the best lubricant for a clutch cable, so follow up with
a light oil, a drop at a time until you see it coming out the lower end.

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Whoever dies with the most toys, still dies
Date: 4 Jan 93 02:02:06 GMT
Organization: The Phallogocentric Cabal

In article <1i5p2kINN49f@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> 
bostrov@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU (Vareck Bostrom) writes:

>In article <1993Jan2.153959.18940@husc3.harvard.edu>
>zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:

MZ:
>>cordially,
>>mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
>>"Les beaulx bastisseurs nouveaulx de pierres mortes ne sont escriptz
>>en mon livre de vie.  Je ne bastis que pierres vives: ce sont hommes."
>>
>>P.S.  Almost forgot to list a 1974 vintage, 5'7", 115#, nipple-length
>>haired, exotic Oriental bimbette bedwarmer.  

I forgot to add: 36"-22"-36".

VB:
>'74? Wouldn't that make her kind of, er, YOUNG?

You should have seen her 1 1/2 years ago.  In any case, I am a 1958
year model, so we even out to a respectable average together.

VB:
>						 You shouldn't argue about
>bimbette's... unless you mention what kind of bike she rides...
>
>mine rides a Shadow 800. And shoots a P228.

Erin rides pillion on my Guzzi, and shoots whatever she wants to
borrow.  Even a real, Swiss SIG.

MZ:
>>P.P.S.  What do I win?

VB:
>Well, I never intended this to be a 'he man pissing contest'...
>I've got an old Sun 4/65 but neglected to mention it, but if I really
>wanted to impress all of you saps, I would have slung around 
>my Grendel P-12 or maybe even my Raven .25... see if you guys can top that.

Well, I have an Opinel #12 I have used to kill rats at the dumpster.
Nothing like close-range combat with the wily rodent!  I'll trade you
for the SUN, but you'll have to throw in the Grendel.

VB:
>Win? I'll send you one of my Raven's that went through the laundry.

No, I'd rather take Jody's tit-sling.

>- bostrov

cordially,
mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
"Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Active Noise Cancellation (was Re: Neat AGV helmet on TV (I wish... list))
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:09:57 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.070901.15754@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.232623.10342@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>|Uh, if you've got active noise cancelling, you already have 99% of
>|a high quality intercom in place.  Wouldn't it be nice to talk to your
>|pillion in a quiet voice at speed, with an intercom?
>
>No, because the high-quality microphone is missing.  The mic that picks
>up the external sample-signal would be non-optimal for catching voice.

Well, okay then, 85%....

How about an active noise-cancelling exhaust system.  Then the loud-pipes
crowd could selectively turn their bike farts on and off....
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
                Celebrate the winter holiday of your choice by
                  offering your hand to someone who needs it.
From: ellert@v32.uh.cwru.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: infant crawlers banned (was: Helmets)
Date: 21 Dec 1992 19:36:27 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Center, Univ. Hospitals of Cleveland
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Dec21.184142.23172@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston) writes:
> Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
> Path: usenet.ins.cwru.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!sdd.hp.com!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu!crpresto
> From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
> Subject: Re: infant crawlers banned (was: Helmets)
> Message-ID: <1992Dec21.184142.23172@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>
> Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:41:42 GMT
> References: <31194.89.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> <1992Dec21.173256.2367@progress.com>
> Organization: Illinois State University
> Lines: 29
> 
> In article <1992Dec21.173256.2367@progress.com> matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper) writes:
> >
> >  Why should it be the manufacturer's resonsibility to educate the
> >consumer?
> >
> >  1) Because people are stupid.  If someone has never used a piece of equipment
> >before it is not unreasonable to expect that the maker would outline the *basic*
> >safe methods of using it.
> >
> >  Man buys ladder.  Safety labels say not to extend it farther than the last
> >two rungs on the ladder.  Owner complies and everything is fine.  reasonable
> >safety label expectation.
> >
> >  2) Because if they don't they'll be screwed like you indicate above.
> >
> >  Man's brother uses ladder to paint his barn.  Puts on foot of the ladder
> >on a frozen cow pie.  As he works the sun melts the pie and the ladder falls
> >over to one side.  Man breaks leg.  Man sues ladder company.  Man WINS!  Jury
> >decided that the ladder company should have included a section about use on
> >possible frozen ground in manual.  (This is a *true* story from here in MA).
> 
> Another case where just one warning would suffice: this device should not be
> used by anyone stupid.
> 
> -- 
> Chas                         DoD #7769
> 

I think the warning must be more foolproof -- what about all the illiterates
satisfy the above requirement?

Ed
DoD #1110
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:42826 rec.autos.driving:7367
From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Daley expected to head DOT
Date: 30 Dec 92 08:15:23 CST
Distribution: na
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1992Dec28.203537.21774@photon.com>, jbn@photon.com (Joe Naiman) writes:
> Now that Clinton's appointed former Denver mayor Pena rather than
> William Daley as Secretary of Transporation, here are some bits and
> pieces of information I've obtained.
> 
> Like Daley, Pena is the mayor of the largest city in a state without a
> helmet law.  
> Also like Daley, Pena is an airport man - his biggest mark on the city
> (this from a friend of mine who lives in the suburb of Arvada) is the
> new airport.  

Sorry pal, wrong Daley.  His brother is the mayor. His father was 
Da Mayor.
......Dr. Doom
From: shafer@spdcc.com (Mary Shafer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bra auction for charity (was: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:20:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Dec21.232019.17891
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Dec21.215227.17093@colorado.edu> laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>In article <1992Dec20.033935.27898@spdcc.com> shafer@spdcc.com (Mary Shafer) writes:
>>In article <viking.724808682@vincent2.iastate.edu> viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
>>
>>>	At the risk of getting flamed by an F-4 on full afterburner, the
>>>only question I have is this: Does Mary Shaffer wear a special bra to
>>>more easily withstand G-forces in the cockpit of those gorgeous aircraft
>>>she gets to motor around in?  If so, is it up for bid?
>>
>>A Jogbra, of course, is what the well-dressed and well-endowed woman
>>wears in the Phantom.  Not very glamorous at all and mostly used in
>>step aerobics class.  It's a little too worn to offer for bid,
>>though, besides being my only one.
>
>well its (almost) never to worn to be auctioned off. besides
>if it is in such bad shape all the more reason to get a new one.

I had just assumed the the lucky winner of the bidding was going to
mount it on a tasteful walnut plaque, with an engraved identification
plate, and hang it on the wall.  One doesn't wish to be identified
to all the world as a wearer of shabby underwear.  

Didn't your mother ever tell you not to wear underwear with safety
pins or holes in it, in case you were in an accident and ended up
with doctors and nurses and other emergency personnel seeing your
slovenliness?  Mine didn't, but I've heard that most mothers did.

-- 
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR  shafer@ursa-major.spdcc.com
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:42685 rec.autos.tech:17206
From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: Tire gauges (was: Re: ME33A Laser wearing too fast...)
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:01:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:

>Any suggestions where to get an accurate gauge?  Everything I see for sale
>retail is the same old junk.  In theory, all but the cheapest rod-type
>gauges (is there a name for these?) should be relatively accurate,
>since they depend only on the geometry of the thing.  My wife, unfortunately,
>insists she can only read dial-type gauges; those I've seen have been
>pretty cheesy, and I don't want to spend $20 for a good one unless it can
>handle glove-box temperature extremes without dying...

For Christmas, I got the Schrader LCD electronic gauge offered by
Competition Accessories (and others) for ~ $22.95.  Looks like a real
nice unit, featuring interchangeable straight-on and 90-degree heads,
a tough-looking plastic case, big-enough (.5" high?) LCD display.  No
provision for replacing battery; I assume you throw it away when it
dies.  Has a little pushbutton which turns on the display for maybe
10-15 seconds (instructions say to push the button, you then have 5
seconds to apply the air pressure, and another 7 seconds to read it,
or hold the button down for display as long as you like).  It's easier
to use than explain, reads from ~5 to 99.5 lbs. in .5 lbs increments.

I compared readings with two older rod-type and one dial-type gauges;
all were within 1-3 lbs.  This was done in my garage at about 20
degrees F. using my Dunlop Harley tires and the Les Schwab 235/60x14
tires on my Mustang.  It's MUCH easier to discern the exactitude :-) of
the reading on the LCD display, of course.  One rod-type gauge is
intended for sports equipment, e.g. basketballs, and reads 0-40 lbs.
The other is a general tire-type gauge, 0-60-something.  The dial
gauge was bought with a set of air shocks and reads 0-150.  Not
surprisingly, the narrow-range gauge seemed closer to the electronic one,
probably because it's easier to tell whether it's reading 32 or 34.

Since it's a Christmas present, I can't speak to durability or reliability.  
I know other Denizens have them (I asked for one after seeing Jeff's,
or was it Bill's? used for the low tire pressure contest at the GPNDG).  
Perhaps someone else can review longevity.  I like the product so far.
--
Carl Paukstis, RRR&RSG             |"The good news is that Clinton will have to
 Olivetti North America/Spokane,WA | work hard to do worse than Bush in terms
 Phone: +1 509 927-5439            | of economic policy.  The bad news is that
 Mail: carlp@mail.spk.olivetti.com | he will probably manage to do so"-Ed Ipser
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Re: Senseless, Childish Brazier Auction
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:13:29 GMT

In article <carlp.725220586@frigg> carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>
>>As my esteemed colleage Mr. Tod J. Johnson has upped the bid.
>>I will follow through with another bid.
>
>Since my noted compatriot Mr. Laszxthlo Nemeth has failed to follow
>through with another bid as promised, I now bid $31.
>

ok so i thought i had put in a bid but i forgot.
my bid is now at $32 and if i get this job i am interviewing
for i will be able to out bid all of you.

laz
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: peterk@foetus.sydney.sgi.com (Peter Kerney)
Subject: Re: The vertical 1/4 mile
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 22:30:44 GMT

In Australia a couple of years ago, we had a drag race between either
Wayne Gardner or Mick Doohan on a superbike versus an F-18 over 1/4 mile.

I seem to recall that the bike won (just).

The bike left the F-18 for dead at the start and at the end the F-18
was definitely catching up.

I think that the whole argument is pretty pointless as I believe that
that space shuttle/F-18 might have a very slight advantage in top
speed.

Probably something to do with gearing. (Not serious here)

-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Peter Kerney. Silicon Graphics, Sydney, Australia. (peterk@sydney.sgi.com)
              'Something strange is afoot at the Circle K'
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From: mstoller@ssc.sas.upenn.edu (Matthew Stoller)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Concours - wanted
Summary: Looking for a new (used) bike - Kawasaki Concours
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:13:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Social Science Computing, Univ. Of Penn.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


Hi there,


I have been thinking about getting a 'new' bike for quite some time, and
finally have decided that I'm ready to spend the $$$$.  Why should you
care?  Well... I was sort of hoping that if some kind soul spots a 
	Kawasaki Concours 
for sale they would send me a note (or post it to r.mc or philly-cycles)
about it.  I am looking for a used Concours, and can probably afford
something in the 86-89 vintage.  

The first thing I want to do is get some pricing info (see what people
are asking) and then if there are any available in the area (I'm trying
to limit the search to the east coast of the U.S.). 

So if you see an ad for one (or even if you see one in a dealer) please
send me a note


					Matt Stoller
					mstoller@mcneil.sas.upenn.edu

					Systems Manager
					Social Science Computing
					Univ. of Penn.
					351 McNeil Bldg.
					Phila., PA 19104-6209

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Helmet Laws
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:08:10 GMT


>Here's an interesting question (at least I think it is):  Why is the federal
>goverernment in the U.S. so intent on implementing helmet laws?  The federal
>government in the US certainly doesn't pay for the health care of most
>bike riders, so there goes that excuse.  They don't force seatbelt laws down
>people's throats, as far as I know, although they do insist on stupid passive
>restraint laws that result in less effective seatbelts for people who already
>used them (I'm referring to those stupid belts attached to the doors, of
>course, as opposed to the proper solution, air bags, which still aren't a
>replacement for proper use of seat belts).  It all smacks of pure intervention-
>ism, without any real reason.  That's not to say that helmets aren't a good
>idea, or helmet laws for that reason, but what's the federal governments stake
>in enforcing seatbelt laws?


    That's easy, they figured out a way to put a tax on them. I
don't know if they were right, but I heard some city employee types
from the courthouse near where I live complaining that the Feds had
figured out a way to get a piece of the fines too. Note that it is
easier to see not using a helmet than not using a seatbelt, so there
is more revenue to be had.

     Besides, a helmet law pisses off a smaller segment of the voters,
and looks like they are doing something "for the good of the people".



Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe) 

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.

*************************************************************
   "Those twins are nice, but since I put in that Plymouth 4
    engine, there aint a Harley, Indian, or Exelcior that can
    touch my Henderson!"
                        Grandmother 1936
=============================================================
 

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tradsick@jarthur.claremont.edu (Tim Radsick)
Subject: Re: Front Tire Off Ground
Keywords: centerstand, ropes, rafters, motorcycles
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: rec.motorcycles
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:10:38 GMT

My CBR600F2 is currently swinging from the rafters of my carport -- held up
by a $20 piece of rope from Home Depot.

Get some friends to lift the front wheel up on some boards or something
to raise it about 6 inches off of the ground. Then loop the rope through
a safe part of the bike (I used the frame), and fasten to rafters.

!!Make sure the rafters are strong and try to attach as close to a vertical
support as possible. Use your best Boy Scout knots!!

Remove the boards, and work away!

-Tim
RadsickT@PL-Edwards.AF.mil
Tradsick@jarthur.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: It's COLD, dammit!
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 16:23:12 GMT

In article <ben.725957214@ipoint> thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox) writes:
>Yup.  Way cold.  I have no problems with this (hey, Santa left me nice
>new silk longjohns under the tree), and there wouldn't be any problem
>riding (roads are clear & dry), but I can't start my motorcycle!  (And
>groceries are getting low, so I need to start it soon!)
>
>Why won't it start?  Because my clutch cable is frozen.  Tomorrow I'll
>bring a hair dryer (and an extension cord) outside to thaw it :) , but
>of course it's going to happen again the next night.
>
>So:
>
>    a) This shouldn't happen, right?  Should I replace the cable?
>       (The ignition key is frozen too, but I know that's nothing
>        out of the ordinary, and I know how to deal with that.)
>
>    b) How do I prevent it from happening every night?  Should I
>       resign myself to a hair dryer session every morning?
>

Take it off. Bring it inside to thaw. Flush with WD40, which displaces water
nicely, and lube with graphite cable lube. Should last a good long while.

Jeff Achenbach
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles