HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: STella@thelema.uucp (STella)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Courage, Shift Happens!
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:53:10 GMT
Organization: Idiosyncratic Anarchic Order

In article <3248@daily-planet.concordia.ca> gsmith@concour.cs.concordia.ca (Gene Ward Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Apr2.013145.24884@thelema.uucp> STella@thelema.uucp
>(STella) writes:
>
>>I don't even have to "warn" the few monosexuals I'm inviting to a
>>party that most of the people there will be bi 
>
>You warned me, but it only served to raise my hopes. 

I warned you, separated-at-birth twin, because it wasn't my party and
I didn't have chucking-out privileges; and somehow it happened that
that was the hettest party our gang has had in ages.

(The reason I call him twin is that there is a certain resemblance --
Daffodil commented that when he saw the two of us come in with wjr, he
thought "STella brought her brother?  I didn't know she had one.")

STella@xanadu.com	1016 E. El Camino Real, #302, Sunnyvale, CA 94087
From: cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Looking for fun sex games to play.
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:47:51 GMT
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Trinity College, Dublin.

Ellen Clary:
>Ciaran McHale:
>>Ellen Clary:
>>>I do believe I'm seeing, could it be, shyness???
>>I do believe you are, could it be, generalising ;-)
>Moi?  No, I never generalize. ;-)

For the millionth time, don't exaggerate!


<>By the time I came out I was well equipped for arguments that I wouldn't
<>bother with now and cringe to overhear [...] As the task wore me down I
<>began to delelop one-off lines that were attempts to stop the
<>conversation.
<>   `What do you do in bed?'
<>   `Sleep, read, talk, make love---what do you do?'
<>[...] It's difficult, impossible, not to feel resentment and anger that
<>heterosexuals rarely, never, are subjected to this sort of questioning
<>or have to explain themselves.
<>--- "The Tables Need Turning" by Jan Parker, in "Heterosexuality"

Ciaran.
-- 
Ciaran McHale                                                            ----
Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.      \bi/
Telephone: +353-1-7021539  FAX: +353-1-772204  email: cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie  \/
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: pclary@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary)
Subject: Re: Women Meeting Women (& People meeting People)
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 05:35:27 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA - aka Barnum & Bailey


I wasn't running a contest for the best meeting stories, but in my
quest for information I have come across some real gems.

Here's a couple of them:
(1)
   I too have always wondered how to meet other bi-women.  My first girlfriend
   I met through an ad in the Advocate, and my second (and current) I met
   through her boyfriend's ad in the personal's for himself.  He wanted to
   hear from bi-men; my husband answered, and it turned out his girlfriend
   is bi too.

(2)
   Two husbands decided that it would be really "hot" to watch two women
   have sex, so they convinced their wives to go to bed with each other.
   Yep, you guessed it.  The wives decided that they like each other
   better than their husbands.  The two (now ex) wives have been together 
   seven years now.


Ellen

--
 Patricia "Ellen" Clary              | "Caution: Ice pick weilding bisexual
 pclary@polyslo.csc.CalPoly.EDU      |  fag dyke.  Do not agitate."
 pclary@nike.CalPoly.EDU             |         A 'Catherine Did It' T-Shirt
Xref: sparky soc.bi:4457 soc.motss:20133 phl.misc:77
From: mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Not Michal Blumenstyk in disguise)
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss,phl.misc
Subject: Alison Bechdel to give slide show at Haverford College
Summary: Maybe to speak also?  I dunno.
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:16:24 GMT
Followup-To: phl.misc
Distribution: phl
Organization: Eaters of Wisdom


    Alison Bechdel is the artist and writer of _Dykes to Watch Out For_,
a neat comic strip whose characters are all lesbians.  The strip appears
in _On Our Backs_ and other places.

    She will appear at Haverford College on Thursday 16 April.  There
will be a slide show and I expect she will speak.  Haverford is in the
Philadelphia area.  Email me for more information.
--

        A woman does NOT like a CLUMSY, FUMBLING man with an ICE PICK.
Mark-Jason Dominus 	  			    mjd@central.cis.upenn.edu
From: sjc@fmg.bt.co.uk (Steve Colwill)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re:  Outing at the Oscars? (Was: Why are you all so nice?)
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:07:47 GMT
Organization: British Telecom

Olaf Seibert writes:

>Given this, choices need to be made. Which is more important? It's a
>choice. A very difficult one, since I always have valued privacy, but I
>have become to value visibility more and more. I wouldn't have a simple
>answer, and I also wouldn't expect one to exist.

It seems to me that to present the choice in this manner is taking a wholly
spatial view of the problem (and it *is* a problem).  Adding an extra dimension
(time) and taking therefore a temporal view you could ask the following
question:

"Suppose visibility (in the sense of Olaf) and privacy *are* incompatible (as
is suggested by the ongoing and inconclusive outing debate), it follows that
one has to be rescinded if progress is to be made in this issue.  If we rescind
privacy in favour of visibility is it possible that later we can reinstate
privacy when attitudes have changed for the better?  Does the same follow if we
rescind visibility first in favour of privacy?"

Just a little thought.

Cheers, Steve.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: mjl@rigel.bos.locus.com (Mike Leibensperger)
Subject: Re: bisexuality a fad? (was Re: Bisexuality and Furries...)
Reply-To: mjl@Bos.Locus.COM
Organization: Locus Computing Corp., Boston Office
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 20:00:12 GMT


In article <1992Apr7.001653.3005@midway.uchicago.edu>,
pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?)) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr6.010102.24161@polari.com> elf@polari.com writes:
|> about a class he's teaching... 
|> >   Pretty interesting; I've spent most of my time talking about my wife
|> >(mostly because we're dealing with female anatomy this week), but it'll
|> >be interesting when it comes relevant to reveal that I spent most of
|> >Saturday night collared and chained to the foot of DeWolf's bed. :-)
|> 
|> is there anyone besides me that found this mental imagery *intensely*
|> appealing, and is *very* jealous of dewolf?  
|> ;)  
|> 
|> peg
|> -who is mopping the drool off her keyboard-

Me!  Me!

I forgot to mention in my followup, Elf!, I'm very envious of your
situation generally.

Let the e-flirting begin....

	mjl

--
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25 Mall Road; Burlington MA	     of human beings to live under the laws of
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Member of the League for Programming Freedom --- write league@prep.ai.mit.edu
From: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Sara's ElectroPostie)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: too perverse? (was Re: I am Muffin! I am INVINCIBLE!)
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:02:19 GMT
Organization: News Addicts

dill@world.std.com (David Kaufman) writes:

>>(We need a soc.bi welcome wagon, with a gift package of appropriate
>>flirtation for each new person out of the oven.)

>Then I'll post this in breathless anticipation.

Bad luck, you just get boring old Sara saying hello - hello!  And
welcome ...  Oh all *right* then <flutter flutter> <flirt flirt> howzat?

    >{8-)

Apologies, I've been working all weekend (yech) and I'm shattered so I
don't really have the energy for a really good flirt just now ...

Sara
-- 
 >{8-)  Sara Hopkins  (-8}<                      ______             ^
 Geography Dept.  Edinburgh Uni.  Drummond St.   \  / / Glorious OOO
 Edinburgh,  EH8  9XP,  UK. +44 (0/31) 650 2662   \/\/   Stereo  ++  
 >  sara@geovax.ed.ac.uk  < < Six of one, half a dozen of the other >
From: rhialto@cs.kun.nl (Olaf Seibert)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: bisexuality a fad? (was Re: Bisexuality and Furries...)
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:27:41 GMT
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands

In article <f0ghbap6@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>Heck, it's even more complicated with me, and I'm a Kinsey pi... (irrational,
>transcendental, and memorable to sixteen decimal places).

Ooooo Kay! You must be divine! All humans I know only have 10 digits!
Being tickled by you must be truly exciting! (Attempt to calculate the
extra excitement, assuming doubling at each additional digit:) 2^6 = 64
times as exciting as a plain decadigital! Wow!
-- 
___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert      B4f+-t-w--g+k+(+)svmrp+  rhialto@cs.kun.nl
\X/ How can you be so stupid if you're identical to me? -Robert Silverberg
From: cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Missed opportunity
Date: 11 Apr 92 21:19:04 GMT
Organization: DSG, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Trinity College, Dublin.

On Friday I ate in a local delicatessen. When I was finished, I brought
my plate back to the counter on my way to the cashier. Seeing me do
this, one of the women there said "You could make a woman very happy."

I tried to think of a witty innuendo to give as a reply but, by Murphy's
Law, couldn't until I got outside. It was only then I realised that I
should have replied "I'm pretty good with men too."


<>The other day I heard a kid call another a faggot, and the kid so
<>called turned around to face his "accuser" and said, "Hey, if you want
<>me to suck your dick, just ask nicely, and I might."
<>--- STella (STella@xanadu.com)

Ciaran.
-- 
Ciaran McHale                                                            ----
Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.      \bi/
Telephone: +353-1-7021539  FAX: +353-1-772204  email: cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie  \/
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons)
Subject: Re: bisexuality a fad? (was Re: Bisexuality and Furries...)
Organization: Department of Atomic Text Units
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 17:16:47 GMT

In article <9313@baird.cs.strath.ac.uk> sean@cs.strath.ac.uk (Sean Ahern) writes:
|In article <1992Apr3.215058.15574@cs.tcd.ie> cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:
|>I'm sorta the same. I'm fairly low on the Kinsey scale and,
|>intellectually, I just can't fathom why I'm not _equally_ attracted to
|>both men and women.
|   Well in my case I reckon that more women have the qualities I like
   ...
|   I know Im defintely far more sight-attracted to women in passing, I


   It could be that women tend to dress more colourfully than men do,
and after having your eyes attracted to the bright colours, you notice
the interesting features even on women who aren't brightly dressed.
I noticed I started to notice men a lot more after I'd actually been
involved with one, and had a chance to notice the interesting bits are
usually hidden away.

   Long hair is a killer, though, on a good-looking man, when he's
also wearing jeans and a jacket. It helps if he's a redhead, too (lapse
into drooling...)

                __
  david parsons \/ orc@pell.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: ro@panix.com (r l reid)
Subject: Re: sex education, and what it did for me...
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:23:45 GMT
Organization: Playdoh's Republic

In article <1992Apr7.234640.29467@midway.uchicago.edu> rivk@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.213120.23959@panix.com> ro@panix.com (r l reid) writes:
>
>>Personal to anyone who hasn't been flirted with lately:
>>Flutter, flutter.  Tiny grin.  Looking away shyly - back again -
>>away again.
>
>*Purr!* Now how did you know I needed to be flirted with today?
>
(e-strokes purring nora at that special place cats have where
the neck meets the jaw) - How?  Because that's the default 
around here, isn't it?  Presumed in need of flirtation until
presumed otherwise....(and a gentle but of e-knuckle behind
your cat ears...)


-- 
		r l reid	ro@@panix.com
@WOOF, QUACK AND  MEOW: Composers of Woof present a variety of computer music 
[Apr 26, 8:30 pm, Cunningham Dance Studio 55 Bethune (Westbeth), NYC)]
[Apr 30, 8:30 pm, SIA, (410 W 118 St, top floor, NYC)]
From: rhialto@falu.sneakernet (Olaf Seibert)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re:  Non-offensive terms for heterosexuals?
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:19:04 GMT
Reply-To: rhialto@cs.kun.nl
Organization: News Addicts with custom software

In article <3119@daily-planet.concordia.ca> gsmith@concour.cs.concordia.ca
(Gene Ward Smith) writes:
>As a fan of science-fiction about super-intelligent quasi-humans, I am
>surprised it doesn't remind you of the "breeders" in Larry Niven's
>'The Protector'--it always does me.

The word kept coming back to me. I  knew I had read it somewhere. Finally
it has dawned.

Breeders in Frederik Pohl's "Jem. The making of a utopia" (Victor Gollancz
Ltd., London 1979). The world is divided into three camps, the breeders and
two others, whose names I can't perfectly translate back into English
('vetpotters' -> lampions?? or hoarders; 'vreters' -> gluttons or feeders),
and which are offensive as well.

You wouldn't want to be called by any of these names.

--
___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert      B4f+-t-w--g+k+(+)svmrp+  rhialto@cs.kun.nl
\X/ How can you be so stupid if you're identical to me? -Robert Silverberg
From: jclark@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (John Clark)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Books to read; Snap Crackle Pop
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:21:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Apr8.143738.15106@midway.uchicago.edu> h431@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
+
+Medieval philosophy is phun.  But I don't remember any homo- or bisexual
+demons, rats!

Check out the Knights Templar, reputed to have 'homosexual'
initiation rites. But that could be bad press to promot their
irradication. But then it was an all male review...
-- 

John Clark
jclark@ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: pentangl@spdcc.com (Scott Moir)
Subject: Re: Dominos (was: De-muffining, me too!)
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:56:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.135005.5929@panix.com> ro@panix.com (r l reid) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.024006.21044@spdcc.com> pentangl@spdcc.com (Scott Moir) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr14.192918.4906@panix.com> ro@panix.com (r l reid) writes:
>>>ro
>>>M,F+,H+(br)
>>^^^^^^^^^^^  What is this?
>Um, the doctor told me to lay off sequiters....
>Actually, it's a first hack at a bi-code.  Hidden within there
>are all kinds of information about physical and emotional configuration
>and hair.  

The 'Bear Code' that I use is freely available via ftp. (spdcc.com has it
in the main directory as you drop in. It is NSBC.V1.9) If you have a 'Bi
Code' worked out, could you please post the specifics so that we all may
benefit? Thanks.

Scott

-- 
Scott Moir / Pentangle / Satyr ______ # "There's really only one requirement 
pentangl@Ursa-Major.spdcc.com  \ \/ / #  for a Prophet, and you've got it."
B4 f t+ w g k+(+) s+ m r p+     \/\/  # "What's that?"
These are my opinions, not SPDCC's    # "A mouth." - 'God' to J.R.'BoB' Dobbs
From: sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Sara's ElectroPostie)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: e-flirts
Date: 13 Apr 92 06:14:56 GMT
Organization: News Addicts

was1+@pitt.edu (Scott A Wayne) writes:
>		I am new to newsgroups.  I am a 19 year old bisexual male.
>I have never heard of Bzzztt before.  Can someone explain to me exactly
>how you play Bzzzttt.  E-Mail me directly or post a reply in this newsgroup.

Ha ha - much!  Tell you what, you find someone in your area who's been
reading soc.bi for a while and is prepared to give a demonstration -
bring your own batteries!!!

    >{8-)

>I'd appreciate it.  Thanks in advance.

You probably would ...

Sara
-- 
 >{8-)  Sara Hopkins  (-8}<                      ______             ^
 Geography Dept.  Edinburgh Uni.  Drummond St.   \  / / Glorious OOO
 Edinburgh,  EH8  9XP,  UK. +44 (0/31) 650 2662   \/\/   Stereo  ++  
 >  sara@geovax.ed.ac.uk  < < Six of one, half a dozen of the other >
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: glass@mdtf14.fnal.gov (Hank Glass)
Subject: Re: Dominos (was: De-muffining, me too!)
Organization: Incoherent Emission of Deviant Thinking
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:47:04 GMT

In article <9204101530.AA14543@ebt-inc> ebt-inc!pks@uunet.UU.NET (Pearl Stark) writes:
       -> In article <BP.92Mar19154308@hobbes.cs.brown.edu> bp@cs.brown.edu (Boris Putanec) writes:
       -> | Edinburgh and Chicago are clearly the hotspots, but anyone care to
       -> | guess why? Maybe the cold encourages sunggling to the point where
       -> | people realize their bisexuality?
       -> 
Hmmm...Chicago a hotspot?  Yes, I thought I noticed a change in the weather
since moving here from LA... I've also noticed I've been feeling a bit
odd lately (queer? no ..no.. that's not quite right... ), but I have
had an almost irresistable urge to snuggle with just about anything that
moved--male, female, or neuter (hey!  does that make me TRI-sexual?)

Hmmm... must be something in the air.., or water?

Hmmm (all these 'hmmm's can be rather distracting... not to mention
an overabundant use of ellipses) does this mean I have now... oh my
goodness... have I de-muffined?

Eeeek!!!   Well, it does tickle a little bit.

Actually, it feels rather pleasant.  Well, here's hugs & kisses to
all, and a "tra-la-lah" for those who are musically inclined.

Enrico
ex-muffin and hopeless romantic
From: rhialto@falu.sneakernet (Olaf Seibert)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re:  Coming out to teachers...
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:16:37 GMT
Reply-To: rhialto@cs.kun.nl
Organization: Intravenous News Addicts

In article <31164@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> db@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Dave Berry) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.010303.24382@polari.com> elf@polari.com writes:
>>[ And what's this "liberal viewpoint" bullshit?  I don't think I'm
>>  liberal... am I? ]
>
>When it comes to sexual matters, you seem pretty liberal to me.  I use the
>L-word as a compliment, by the way.

Absolutely (whole last paragraph). As long as you stick to the "American"
meaning of "liberal". In Dutch, I would't want to be called "liberaal"...
it is associated with "capitalist" and "conservative (on monetary issues,
at least)". [in general, the liberal party (the VVD) is considered to be in
the political center or just right of it.] Just a matter of political
culture... (And a related word, libertine, has been spoiled for me by a
certain French marquis (though he presumably misuses it)).

>At least this book says *something&* about bisexuality.  I've seen several
>books about sexuality that don't mention us at all.

Some time ago (ok, long ago) I got a book (it was on sale) by the "famous"
Dr Ruth. It had the pretentious title "Sex at its best" (original title: Dr
Ruth's guide to good sex) Not that it told me much I didn't know, it turned
out. When I looked in the index recently under bisexual, there were just 2
references, and many more for homosexuality... oh well I could go on
rambling what a useless book it is... it mentions the Kinsey report once
but doesn't say anything about it, and mentions a property "Kinsey-3" that
isn't explained. The seveal FAQ listings on the net are more useful.

Oh well, was this relevant? I guess not. I am a compulsory poster, I think.
--
___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert      B4f+-t-w--g+k+(+)svmrp+  rhialto@cs.kun.nl
\X/ How can you be so stupid if you're identical to me? -Robert Silverberg
From: tachyon@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Tane' Tachyon)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bi Quotes and Red Heads
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:40:23 GMT
Organization: Tachyon Labs


Oh!  Actually I have a good one!

So I have this friend who I hadn't seen in almost six years, but then
we got back in contact when she sent me email after seeing a message
of mine in soc.bi, and last night she came over to dinner.  She
brought another friend of hers and that friend's two kids, who were
running around playing with my son, Sam.

So at one point the 6-year-old girl said to me:

"Your hair is weird ... it's hard to tell if you're a girl or a boy
... you look like a redhead."

-- 
 ____________________________________________________________________________
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|         tachyon@gorn.echo.com \    /   / I only like sigs on *other* people|
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From: gtoal@castle.ed.ac.uk (Graham Toal)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bi Quotes and Red Heads
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:20:16 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Apr8.230811.6164@u.washington.edu> rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld) writes:
>I would like to, at this time make a one time only bargain offer,
>2 flirts for the price of three to the entire group: and guys,
>be not shy, we can't have the girls (*major smileys*) doing all
>of the work...

What a lovely smile you have :-]  Actually, I've been laying low and
letting the girls welcome the other girls because 1) I'm trying not
to be a typical butch male and butting in first all the time before
the women get a chance to speak and 2) I think that having recently
demuffed, it's more satisfying/valuable/enjoyable to flirt with MOTSS,
probably for the first time for many of us...

But have a good old-fashioned MOTOS hug anyway :-)

*HuG*

G
From: J.W.Harley@newcastle.ac.uk (Jon Harley)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: bisexuality a fad? (was Re: Bisexuality and Furries...)
Keywords: quantum bisexuality
Date: 6 Apr 92 12:30:20 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:
>In <1992Apr3.182354.5755@spdcc.com> pentangl@spdcc.com (Scott Moir) writes:
>>I find this interesting, because this is that position that I find my
>>brother in. Intellectually, he thinks that an attitude supporting and
>>advocating bisexuality is proper, and he has tried his hand at motss
>>relationships, but he is just NOT sexually attracted to males. It 
>>actually frustrates him that he is not, because he feels that judging
>>people based on gender is wrong. He just doesn't get a rise (so to speak)
>>out of males.
>
>I'm sorta the same. I'm fairly low on the Kinsey scale and,
>intellectually, I just can't fathom why I'm not _equally_ attracted to
>both men and women. The best I can come up with is to generalise the
>"don't try applying logic to emotions" rule to include sexuality as
>well.

I do find this concept of being more attracted to one sex than the other
hard to get to grips with. Does being more attracted to women than men
mean

(a) You're attracted to more women than men, but the men you're attracted to
    hold just as much attraction individually;
(b) You're attracted to women with more intensity than men; or
(c) You're more attracted to feminine physical or emotional characteristics,
    and find men with those characteristics attractive.

Or a combination of the above? (Reverse the genders if you're at the other
end of the Kinsey scale - this qn isn't solely directed at Ciaran or I'd
mail it). Scott's brother appears to be (b).

And if thinking about motos sex is more appealing, does that mean actually
doing it is preferable to motss sex as well? (I guess (b) again)

Personally I find (a) holds except that it frequently flips - sometimes I
find more motos attractive than motss, other times the other way round.
basically it depends on individual cases and I can't generalise from it. I
have great difficulty pinning myself to the Kinsey scale because of this.
I think I'm like one of those particles which is said to be simultaneously
in 2 energy states - I'm Kinsey 2 *and* 4.

Or am I just confused.


/jon
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