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From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.rave
Subject: New Mixer...
Date: 5 Oct 1992 21:34:02 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

    At the past couple of raves I've been to here, the mixer that the DJ uses
has been completely unfamiliar.  Gone are the sliders - instead, there are
knobs.  Dozens of knobs.  No sliding X-fader.  Knobs.  No master level control.
Knobs.  And also no name, none that I could see.  Anyone know about these?  
I've seen them at enough events now to think that perhaps the DJ's prefer
them...

	Brian

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: Beatservice top 10
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 11:10:43 GMT

Here it is, the september top 10 from the infamous Beatservice radio show.

 1 MEAT BEAT MANIFESTO Edge Of No Control  CDS (PIAS)
 2 VARIOUS Artificial Intelligence  CD (Warp)
 3 BRAINSTORM Cybernetic Tonalities EP  12" (R&S)
 4 CODE INDUSTRY Young Men Are Coming To Power  CD (Antler Subway)
 5 SONEXUNO Alchemy  12" (Slaughterback)
 6 808 STATE  TimeBomb  CDS (ZTT)
 7 VARIOUS Cyberworld dbl-LP (Playground)
 8 EXQUISITE CORPSE Dream Night Dance Music  CD (KK)
 9 BLUE EYED CHRIST Catch My Fall  CDS (KK)
10 MENTAL OVERDRIVE The Second Comming  12" (R&S)

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From: pauly@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sky Cries Mary)
Subject: Re: LESBIGAY MUSICIAN NAMES NEEDED.
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:32:15 GMT

loris@yang.earlham.edu writes:

Well, I'm not surprised at the amount.  I'm just bummed cuz that puts
Emily out of the picture.  *siGh*


B
B

D
DS
D
AS
>> Indigo Girls are lesbians?  Geez.  I should read up more.  I didn't know that.


>you'd be surprised at the number of lesbian, bisexual and gay people in 
>the music business.  i'm finding a lot more "mainstream" artists than i 
>thought i ever would.  i may post a comprehensive list when i've got time.

>--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Lori Southerland 
>Box E-1095 Earlham College  Richmond, IN 47374-4095 
>Bitnet:		LORIS@EARLHAM	Internet:	LORIS@YANG.EARLHAM.EDU

>"If God dislikes gays so much, how come he picked Michaelangelo, a known 
>homosexual, to paint the Sistine Chapel ceiling while assigning Anita 
>[Bryant] to go on tv and push orange juice?"  --Mike Royko
>________________________________________________________________________________
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From: pet@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Paul Eng-Yi TAN)
Subject: USA argument, please settle
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 13:18:06 GMT

Sorry to post this, but I just need a quick answer to settle an
argument, this group is what I'm mostly reading.. anyhow.
1) are there 50 or 52 states in the US?
2) What is puerto rico's status? an almost-state?
3) if there are 52 states, why are there only 50 stars on the flag?

Thanks for the answers!
Paul

Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:11378 rec.music.folk:6782 rec.music.dementia:1549
From: pskibitz@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Paul F A U S T !! )
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Consolidated is Industrial???
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:34:58 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <pet.717292537@munagin> pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan) writes:
>After hearing Consolidated on TV I was wondering why it was discussed in
>RMI. Is it because of their association with MBM?

I think that Consolidated developed an association with the
industrial crowd with their first album,
_The_Myth_Of_Rock_.  Although it also has songs obviously influenced
by Public Enemy and the like, about half of the songs are backed by
a heavy distorted beat, and feature rather industrial sounds.  I
think that the album is actually rather good.  As far as their
message goes, I generally like what they're saying, but the emphasis
that goes into getting their message across makes me feel just like
they're a evangelical christian group trying to shove Jesus Christ
down my throat and up my ass (metaphorically speaking, of course).


			-Paul FAUST!


Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: Liz Fox <lf01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Club/City Info
Organization: Office of the Dean - CFA, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:48:12 GMT

On 24-Sep-92 in Cool concerts coming up in ..
user Todd Alan Padezanin@andr writes:
>- I've booked an East Coast tour for Japanese noise band C.C.C.C.
>(compare to Merzbow, Incapacitants, etc.) Most shows are with Pittsburgh
>industrial band Macronympha. The dates are:
>Oct. 6 - Middle East, Boston
>Oct. 7 - AS220, Providence
>Oct. 8 - Mondale Loft (industrial-strength home of WRPI DJ Mike Rose), Albany
>Oct. 9 - Gargyole Mechanique, New York City
>Oct. 10 - open
>Oct. 11 - Pittsburgh as listed above (with Crash Worship)
>Oct. 12 - Freakin' Pizza, Columbus
>Oct. 13 - Lower Links, Chicago with ILLUSION OF SAFETY!
> 

We'll (Macronympha) be playing with C.C.C.C. in all the above cities
except Boston.  Can anyone give us some info on:

AS220 Club
The Providence area/scene in general
Mondale Loft
Albany area/scene in general
Gargoyle Mechanique
if anything Cool is happening in NYC
Lower Links
if anything Cool is happening in Chicago

Will anyone on the net be attending any of the shows??

Is there a daytime/afternoon screening of "Hellraiser 3" in Providence
or Albany anywhere?

Chris Texeira - can you make the Oct 7 show in Providence?

Ken Chasse - can you make the Oct. 8 show in Albany?

Do we have any net-noizeheads in NY City who will be around on Oct 9?

Also, who will be going to the show on Oct. 13 in Chicago with Illusion
of Safety?

Thanks - either post or send e-mail to lf01@andrew.cmu.edu

-Liz and Joe of Macronympha

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From: esrcn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Tony Wicks)
Subject: Re: EINSTURZENDE
Originator: esrcn@clover
Reply-To: esrcn@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Tony Wicks) 
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK 
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:12:19 GMT

In article <4213.928.uupcb@bville.gts.org> john.walter@bville.gts.org (John Walter) writes:
>-> Einstuzende Neubauten (sp?) stands for "Delapitated New House".
>
>Actually from what I remember reading it is something like "Collapsing
>New Buildings", but it isn't just "New Buildings" but Neubauten is
>actually a form of archetecture...  Something like that...
>

Yup, as far as I know Einstuzende Neubauten means `Collapsing New
Buildings'. They took there name from a famous (not that famous)
incident concerning a newly built church in Berlin that on the first
use promptly collapsed on it's congregation. I think someone somewhere
was trying to make a celestial comment on earthly matters ...

Tone.


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From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Subject: Re: Severed Heads
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:00:21 GMT

Russell_Wallace@mindlink.bc.ca (Russell Wallace) writes:

>The severed heads had an CD out last year "Cuisine" which  included an E.P
>"Piscatorial".

The Cuisine material is quite diff from the Pisc. bit. The Pisc is very
experimental, quite interesting in its own way. Takes some listens to get
into. I like the Cuisine album; it's quite varied actually. More conventional,
with meaty beats, cool synths and samples. 

>The songs were recorded between 1988 and 1991 , perhaps they were out takes
>from their other album, whatever the case maybe the album is not impressive.
>There is a few interesting songs like "the Tingler" and "Golden height
>I am your antidote" but overall the album quite loose and uninspired.
A question of taste, I think. A lot of SH fans from the old days prefer noisy
music. I am one of the DM/NO people who discovered SH recently, and really
like the new clean, well produced music that they put out. I got the Bulkhead
album which is slightly older music (83-88) which, although not noisy as such,
is not much like current SH either; sort of in between. I liked it a lot!
I wish there was a BUlkhead remixes album I could dig into.

Paul

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Beloved, New Order, Pet Shop Boys, Stone Roses, Inspiral Carpets,
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Subject: RMI CD Update
Originator: btc30679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Sears of Bavaria
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 09:08:43 GMT

OK.  The end is drawing near.  I'll edit Real Soon Now (still waiting
on the last DAT, which I am assured went out in the mail last week, or
God shall rain down smititude on his head (his words, not mine :^>)).

I am pretty heavily weighed down by school at the moment, but I'll try
to squeeze in time to edit ASAP.

I have a Big Pile O'Orders, dating from 01 Sep, on my desk; I will
process these in the next 48 hours and try to send email acks to those
who included email addresses in their orders.

If you ordered recently and haven't yet heard from me, please WAIT to
email me asking about it until Tuesday or so, since my ack email might
take until then to get to you.  If you still haven't heard from me by
Tuesday, then you can start emailing me about it.

I am going to press the CD via CMSI in Tampa, so the process should
take only six weeks or so, as opposed to the indefinite delays that
might be experienced with Americ Disc at this point in the year.

Everyone, thanks for your patience; believe me, NOBODY wants to see
this thing finished more than I do.  When I proposed this idea in
August 1991 or so, I had NO IDEA it would take this long.  :-(
I will not be doing another one of these compilations.

Please hang in there, and forward this message to anyone without net
access that might be interested.

Sorry for all the delays.  Thanks again for being patient.

--
Ben Cox
thoth@uiuc.edu
From: SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET (Steve W Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: FLA among other things
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:34:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: HARPERVM.92279.153425SHILL
Organization: William Rainey Harper College; Palatine, IL  60067

In article <BvKKAK.GB6@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ogre@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lestat) says:
>msimla@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Michael Simla) writes:
>>Hi there people... I have a question... (btw: this question wasn't
>>answered in the FAQ :)

I hope it's added soon.

>> In Front Line Assembly's video _Mind Phazer_ where
>>did they get the footage... Is it all original or was it taken off some
>>obscure movie that I've never heard of? It's one of the coolest videos
>
>I read in an interview with Bill Leeb (aka Wilhelm Schroeder) that they
>worked out some sort of deal for the footage from some Japanese film
>company. I guess the original Japanese film was never completed or something,
>and so they got the footage for next-to-nothing, at least relative to what
>it would have cost if they had undertook to film it themselves.
>
The film is called "Gunhed" and, as I just saw a copy of it available on
Laserdisc in Chicago (Japanese import, of course), I would guess that
it was definitely completed.  I was tempted to buy it, but didn't.
Anyone else interested should visit Laser Image on Fullerton Ave, or
call their own local video store.  I know the "hed" part of the title
stands for "Heavy Elimination Device," can someone with more info on the
original comic book please post it so this stuff can be added to the FAQ?
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.alternative
From: otto@leland.Stanford.EDU (Chris Otto)
Subject: Re: Any info on a tour by NIN?  
Keywords: NIN, tour, USA
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: World
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 23:03:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.142036.12409@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> saxe_dh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dean H Saxe) writes:
>Anybody know if Trent is planning another USA tour to accompany the release
>of "Broken?"

Nothing is finalized, but both NIN and Machines of Loving Grace are coming out
with albums this February and March, and then touring together this spring/
summer.

hasta,
otto.

PS  -- in response to some other post --
No, Machines searched out Trent to remix "Burn..." and Fisher's response
to the mixes was that [paraphrased] "he made it sound like NIN."
From: ringworm@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Count Ringworm)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Publishing Music
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 03:54:22 CDT
Organization: system 6626 BBS, Winnipeg MB

lombardo@cwis.unomaha.edu (Marc Lombardo) writes:

> I believe Wax Trax! is a good label for new industrial groups to start with,
> is that true?  Is it as simple as sending WaxTrax a DAT and them sending you
> a letter saying 'Your sweet, we want your music', you sign a contract and
> make some decent money?
 
It'll most likely wind up in the trash.  Front 242/FLA clones are a dime 
a dozen, these days.  You need yourself a gimmick... mail a body part 
with it, or something.  Or better yet, send it to another label besides 
Wax.  You'd probably have better luck with Third Mind.
 
Be persistent, that's the importaint thing.


--- (Count Ringworm) a user of sys6626, running waffle 1.64
E-mail: ringworm@sys6626.bison.mb.ca
system 6626: 63 point west drive, winnipeg manitoba canada R3T 5G8
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 1992 14:41:46 -0400 
From: Joseph Velardi <jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Reality Reviews (long)


Excerpts from netnews.rec.music.industrial: 6-Oct-92 Reality Reviews
(long) by Brian Keeley@sdcc3.ucsd. 

> _Gub_, but that is a bit misleading.  The ATG is in use on every song, 
> but it is frustratingly low-down in the mix most places, and is not used 
> as straightforwardly as it was with Pigface. (Also, Lab Report is much 
> less rhythmic than the Pigsters.) The only word that describes this 
> album is "subtle," though not necessarily "sublime."  Never is the ATG 
> used as powerfully as in the first track of _Welcome to Mexico..._.  

ATG?  Am I missing something (HEY...that wasn't in the FAQ...) ?  What
does that stand for?  What is it?
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: mrjones@eos.ncsu.edu ()
Subject: Re: Uncle Al
Originator: mrjones@c00471-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: mrjones@eos.ncsu.edu ()
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:40:36 GMT




>>
>> [Listing of theoretical Al Jourgenson-related group info deleted]
>>


> You are an idiot!
>
>
>        "Good ole Uncle Al" is *NOT* a member of KMFDM nor does it stand
>for "Kill Mother Fucking Depeche Mode", get your facts straight before
>you spew off at the mouth again.
>
>                                Thanks,
>                                        John Walter


Well, I figured an asshole would catch up to my simple inquiry sooner
or later.  The list was for groups he was a part of, that is, had
anything to do with.  This includes touring, mixing, etc.  I figured
KMFDM did NOT stand for what I had said, but somebody told me that it
did as a joke.  Humor is something I'm sure even an omniscient asshole
such as yourself is familiar with.

Instead of flaming, why don't you pretend you have a purpose and contribute
something other than a useless posting to this Newsgroup.  I'm pretty
sure no one will mind.  Obviously, you can't read since this was the
trailer on my initial message:

>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>If you have somehow found something to flame about in this post...
>then don't.
>-----------------------------------------------------------------

Is this too hard for you to comprehend?  I'm starting to think so...

				
							Carnifex
From: @symphony.cc.purdue.edu (null pointer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Greg Clow, please email me
Date: 2 Oct 92 05:36:54 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Cultural Wasteland Research Center

In article <1992Oct2.044824.26946@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> constant@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Tino) writes:
>[I write]
>>Hey Dan, please check your .sig file for indicators of your stupidity
>>before offering other people advice.
>>Helpful hints:
>>		Don't quote bad 80's disco bands
                            ^^^ ^^ ^ ^^^^^

>>Fr. Matthew Neill Sharp, asker of legitimate question,
>>mocked by geeks, and bringer of WRATH
>>matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
>
>M a t t h e w, 
>I could have sworn I saw a post by you on another rec.music group where you
>were discussing ABBA albums. If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black...


You certainly did, "Tino", you certainly did.  ABBA is not a 
BAD 80s DISCO band; Abba is an incredible 70's disco band.
Abba utilize multiple chords.  Abba subtly touch on the most
risque of subjects through well-written (if not poetic) lyrics.
I challenge anyone to compare ABBA and "Front 242" and tell me
honestly (and I want PROOF) that they still believe Front 242 is
better than Abba.

That is NOT the pot calling the kettle black, sir, that is
me pointing out the flaws (once again) of pretentious 80's 
"industrial" music, which doesn't even have the chutzpah to
admit to itself or anyone else the fact that it is nothing
more than poor, uninspired, and uninspiring disco.


Abba is STILL light years ahead of the current music scene.

>If that isn't the pot calling the kettle black...

Were you, perchance, about to say "then I don't know what is" ?

I feel this statement would be very accurate.

>
>tino, who lives on the same campus as the "bringer of WRATH"

Perhaps I'll let you buy me a beer sometime.


Brother Matthew Neill Sharp
matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu     Mr.(null pointer)!
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: Greg Clow <ecurrent@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Puppy B&F CD
X-To: ALL
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:13:00 GMT

Well, I guess everyone is just so fucking excited about the new Nine Inch 
Ningheads CD ("yeah, I got the version that has 8 3 inch CD's with one 
track on each of them, how about you?") to realize that the CD re-release 
of BACK & FORTH is out.  Either that or, once again, Canada has been 
blessed with a new Nerdwerk release a month before the rest of the world.

Anyway, the disc is called BACK AND FORTH SERIES 2, and it's over 70 
minutes of classic 'n' cheesy old Puppy material.  The BACK AND FORTH 
tracks have been cleaned up a bit, but they don't really sound a lot 
different than the original versions.  As for the rest of the stuff, 
there's some early live material (mainly live "noodling" sessions with 
titles like "My Voice Sounds Like Shit" and "Destroy the P.A. (live 
brap)") and demo stuff, including a demo version of "Smothered Hope" and 
an early instrumental version of "Assimilate".  Basically, it's what I 
expected: nothing earth-shattering, but an interesting "document" for the 
fans.

One disappointment, tho', is the exclusion of the cassette-only tracks 
that appeared on the original cassettes of REMISSION and BITES, and a few 
other bits.  As far as I know, the following tracks are not available on 
CD in North America:

Manwhole  (from REMISSION cassette - appears in a shortened form as the 
           intro to "Icebreaker" on BITES)

Incision  (a *really* hot track from the REMISSION cassette)

Church
Tomorrow  (from original Nettwerk cassette of BITES - also appear on the
           European BITES CD, but not the North American version)

The Choke
Assimilate (yeah, the remixes are on the North American CD, but the 
            original (and, in the case of Assimilate, superior) versions
            only appear on CD in Europe)

Cage       (a nifty little track that appeared on the Canadian CHAINSAW
            EP, but *not* the American.  Also appeared on the CD3 of 
            "Testure", which was quickly deleted and replaced with a CD5)

I really expected at least some of these tracks to appear on the B&F CD.  
Oh well, maybe they're saving them for another "rarities" comp.  Now that 
Puppy has left Nettwerk, the company will probably try to milk the Puppy 
material for all that it's worth.


Anyway, enough anal rambling for today.  


Greg


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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,rec.music.folk,rec.music.dementia
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: LESBIGAY MUSICIAN NAMES NEEDED.
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:40:24 GMT

In article <MUFFY.92Oct6073441@remarque.berkeley.edu>, muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct5.212519.16782@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:

|> >I guess I feel to a certain extent that to listen to music for any reason
|> >other than that it is good music is missing the point. It's a similar
|> >situation 
|> >to people who listen to "Christian-label" music no matter what the
|> >genre, simply 
|> >because they loudly proclaim to be Christian.
|> 
|> Well, I like to listen to music because it is good music, certainly.
|> However, I also like to pay attention to the *topics* and *ideas* in the
|> lyrics.  If someone's lyrics are, for example, extremely negative or
|> violent towards women, I'm going to have a hard time enjoying the song,
|> no matter how good the music is.  A slightly less obvious thing is when
|> the song makes assumptions that are not consistent with my life.  For
|> example, I am polyamorous (I can be in love with more than one person,
|> or seeing more than one person at once), so certain songs really stand
|> out to me as emphasizing monogamy as "normal," which is not horrible,
|> but I would *like* to hear about people with ideas like mine, as well.
|> 
|> That's where the Christian, Lesbigay, etc., comes in.  People like music
|> that they, personally, can relate to, especially as opposed to music
|> that denies their reality/ideas.  Now, there's no guarantee that artists
|> who are, for example, Christian, will write all songs about Christians,
|> but I find that something of their life and ideas generally comes
|> through.

That's true, however I have found in many instances that people will listen
to "Christian music" of all genres, but *not* listen to bands that just
"happen to be Christian" (U2 comes to mind) because they're "not real" or
some such tripe. I kind of got the same opinion from the original article
in this thread, until the poster said "queer or queer-positive".
 
|> 
|> Just to put some actual information in here, try disappear fear.  The
|> basic band is two sisters, one gay, one straight.  They have a great
|> song where they each have a part talking about a new lover, one clearly
|> female, the other clearly male.  I understand that this was booed by a
|> primarily-lesbian crowd once...that's really sad, because I think that
|> it's great to acknowledge *two* ways of life/love in one song.

I've never heard this...it sounds interesting!

jds

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Jeff Smith                     * Can't you just graduate from junior 
smith@fl08-g.comm.mot.com      * college and start sweeping like the rest
                               * of your kind?  Huh, rave-boy?
                               *              - Mathew Neill Sharp
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