HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Olli-Jukka Paloneva <opaloneva@abo.fi>
Subject: Re: Finnish Communists in the USA and the USSR / I meant     
     westerners
Organization: Turku School of Economics
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 07:59:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.213824.16811@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> J. Theodore
Schuerzinger, J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu writes:
>Are you implying that Soviet 'cultural minorities' would receive more
>money?  It seems to me that the Russians tried to Russify all the other
>republics -- note that ~40% of the population of Kazakhstan is Russian,
>only ~50% of Latvia is Latvian, etc.
>
>And what about Swedes in Finland?  :-)

I meant a half-dozen Lapps :-) my lady MP is also
a member of parlamentary committee of cultural affairs and
she thionks that they may be oversubsidized.

not essential for pro/anti-Russian flaming!
From: alexei@cartan.math.nd.edu (Alex Strouwe)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: RELAX: Evreyskii anekdot
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:17:21 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame


 In article <1992Dec13.061901.16496@mail.cornell.edu> Mark Lipsits  
<ml12@cornell.edu> writes:
|>
|>outburst about "economical Jews"  Please, understand me, I am using a Mac
                  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

|>which has barely enough memory to run System 7. 
            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 


--

When I tell any Truth it is not for the sake of convincing those
who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those who do.
         
	                           WILLIAM BLAKE Public Address
From: smir+@CS.CMU.EDU (Yury Smirnov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Can Yeltsin reelect parlament now?
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:08:13 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University

In article <104545@bu.edu>, simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec8.202556.20058@galois.mit.edu> verbit@cauchy.mit.edu (Mikahil Verbitski) writes:
|> 
|> >Unfortunately, to dissolve and reelect the Congress,
|> >Yeltsin needs one of the following:
|> >(a) to gather 1.000.000 votes from people
|> >who want the reelection, or
|> So easy? or you missed couple of zeroes?!
|> less than 1% of population?
|> 
|> KGB could do the job with  1/n-th of it's recruiters...

   No any zeros can help now. Today a new Prime Minister was elected by
the "qualified majority" - Chernomyirdin. His first words and his
"chernaya myirda" reminded the blissful time of Party leadership.
Perhaps, Gaidar wasn't thin too, but he is an educated person !
Maphia is still strong, KGB ne spit.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11248 talk.politics.soviet:9832 soc.culture.europe:10596
From: alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Vorlund, the man.
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:46:43 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK


In article <12049@kesson.ed.ac.uk> alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev) writes:
>>I apologise for attributing this to you.  It's Mr.Tammet's term.  You
>>obviously do not regard Russian speakers in Estonia as colonists.

>  I call you troglodytes and bazzi-bazucs. Is that better ?

Yeh, this is the kind of thing I expected form you, you SQUELCHING CUNT!
------------------------------------------------------------------------


> And here comes the .signature

He it comes indeed.  Old TODGER-HAED Vorlund, squirting his jism all
over the net:


 .....  .   ..... . .....   .   . :...: ..... .     .   .  .   . ... 
   :   ...  :...: : :   :    . .  :   : :...: :     :   :  ::. : :  :
   :  .   . :     : :...:     .   :...: :  :  :.... :...:  : ::: :..:


It suddenly occured to me that there must be something seriously wrong
with someone who is a cunt and todger at once...  Perhaps Vorlund is
an unfortunate victims of Michurin's secret experiments?  This would
explain his unconventional behavioural patterns and also his hatred
for Russians.                              A.M-T.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
From: Mark Lipsits <ml12@cornell.edu>
Subject: RE: Blame the victim... (from Alex Chaihorsky)
X-Xxdate: Wed, 16 Dec 92 00: 03:10 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: ml12@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:59:39 GMT


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Subject: Re: "Drugs" threaten democracy in former Soviet Union
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:47:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.205714.3778@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>Wrong. Clinton wants to set up work camps for juvenile drug users.

I do not recall hearing anything about that.  

>Even Bush, in all  his stupidity, did not make any such an assinine proposal.

Bush and his Supreme Court had suspended a number of constitutional
freedoms in the name of WOD.  Abrogation of rights to privacy, due
process, habeas corpus, protection from unreasonable and blank order
searches; zero tolerance, foreign intervention, ban on medicinal and
humane use of marijuana, mandatory sentencing, etc. -- all these are
the results Reagan/Bush adminstrations attempts to misdirect the public's
attention from the real crimes (the plague of tax policy assksted LBOs,
S&L collapses, looming banking system collapse, Iran-Contra-cocain trade).

A "work camp" is a better choice than the overcrowded juvenile and federal
prisons, and a much better choice than the Darryl Gates and his ilk
cheerleading the sympathetic Administration to shoot drug offenders on
sight.

Clinton was not my choice for President, but he's a better choice than
Bush.

>If you expect a decrease in the WOD hysteria, it will not be due to Clinton.

Granted, the WOD has a momentum that will not quickly come to a grinding
halt.  Reagan and Bush spent $8-12 billions a year for 10 yeasr or so to
whip up the paranoya that has gripped the nation so hard that people really
did think in '90-'91 that drugs were *the* major problem with this country.

But without the political agenda that thought to obscure the more relevant
but harder to understand and deal with issues, will WOD continue shredding 
the Constitution?  I hope not.
-- 
Oleg Kiselev at home			...use the header to find the path
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11246 talk.politics.soviet:9831 soc.culture.europe:10595
From: tammet@cs.chalmers.se (Tanel Tammet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Russian Speakers in Estonia: The Linguistic Approach.
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:15:48 GMT
Organization: Dept. of CS, Chalmers, Sweden

In article <12113@sorley.ed.ac.uk> alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev) writes:
>Mr.Sommarskog writes:
>Sergei Viznyuk (viznyuk@physics.ucla.edu) writes:
>>>  In Estonia nearly half of the population has been deprived the
>>>civil rights only because of their ethnicity and language they speak.
>
>>A lie doesn't become true because you repeat it over and over
>>again. How do you explain that 40.000 Russians had the right
>>to vote in the recent elections.
>
>An exeption does not undermine the general truth of this statement.
>
>>You know were very well what the rules were, and they were not 
>>correlated with language, but with citizenship of 1940. And
>>since you know these rules, but claim something else you are
>>nothing but a liar.
>
>Rules, rules.  There appear to be three possible modes in
>which the question as to why Estonian Russian speakers have been
>deprived of the right to vote can be answered.  One is LEGALISTIC, and
>Mr.Sommarskog goes for this one.  The other, I shall call BIBLICAL,
>and Mr.Tammet generally goes for it.  According to this view Russians
>and their descendents are to blame for the crimes of Communism, BY
>ASSOCIATION.

I never said that - in contrast, I stressed that nations
are not supposed to be blamed. I just tried to show the
absurdity of claims that Russia has no more to do with
Communism than countries which have been occupied by 
Soviet Russia and then USSR.

However, I still claim that the majority of the
citizens of USSR who came to live in Estonia during
the occupation of Estonia by USSR, supported this
occupation in one or another way. Even in a very
recent history. The point of the claim is to
refute the allegations that it is immoral not to
give all the citizens of USSR living in Estonia
the Estonian citizenship AUTOMATICALLY.

If it comes to rights of Russian-speakers in Estonia,
I go for the legalistic arguments. 

>  Lastly, there is the view that Estonians, for whatever
>reason, are set on ejecting the Russian speaking population.  And to
>the extent to which this group is identified by their language, with a
>few exceptions, it is indeed the case that Russian speakers are
>discriminated against on the basis of, or because of, THE LANGUAGE
>THEY SPEAK.

Well, I am writing this message from Tallinn. No discrimination
like you say above is visible anywhere. Neither is there
any such discrimination in laws. Of course, IF you wish to
identify noncitizen residents of Estonia with Russian-speakers,
you get a horrible discrimination. But there is no such immediate
connection between being a noncitizen resident of Estonia and
between being a Russian-speaker in Estonia.

Regards,
	Tanel Tammet
From: sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Anekdot pro Vovochku i pogovorka
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:33:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec15.130857.22517@ryn.mro4.dec.com> libkind@hdlite.enet.dec.com (Sam Libkind) writes:

>In article <101973@netnews.upenn.edu>, sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin) writes:
>> >V Dom Pionera na yolku, a v Dom Ofitzera na palku.
 
>|>   po palke soskuchilas'?
 
>Po sebe merish?

  Strannaja logika. Devushka s grust'ju vspominaet svoi pionerskie
  gody, a ty - "po sebe merish". Zdes'-to, na zapade, ni domov
  pionerov, ni domov ofitserov - sovsem bednoi devushke podat'sja
  nekuda. Udivlen, chto prihodit'sja ob'jasnjat' ochevidnoe.
  
  S.B.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: nmrdb@vms.macc.wisc.edu (BEVERLY SEAVEY)
Subject: Seeking modern equivalent to the All Soviet Folk Music Festival
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 17 DEC 92 12:11:18    

I recently saw a videotape that was made a few years ago of some performances
at the All Soviet Folk Music Festival. It had music and dance from many
ethnic groups including Bashkir, Kirghiz, Uzbek.... Is there anything like
that now that these is no more Soviet Union?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Subject: Re: Alexei, you ignore the democratic EUROPEAN institutions!
Organization: Enea Data AB
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 23:26:21 GMT

Sergei Viznyuk (viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu) writes:
>I could repeat it: Council of Europe is bullshit ! Its failure
>to do anything about war in Yugoslavia, its failure to do anything
>about human rights violations in Estonia and Latvia, its failure
>to stop neo-Nazis in Germany, etc, etc, are the best witnesses
>to the value of this "Council". Notorious pre-WWII "League of Nations"
>comes to mind..

Well, since Russia has failed on all this points we have to conclude
that Russia is bullshit too. And, since you also have failed on
all these points, we can conlude that you are also bullshit. (If we
didn't know that already.)

I guess the problem is that you don't have the slightest idea
what the Council of Europe is about, but then again given your
record, that is hardly a surprise.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
From: mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: RELAX - Porutchik Rjevski!
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:18:36 GMT
Followup-To: sender
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <Bz3xA1.1p7@fiu.edu>, kilman2y@fiu.edu (Yevgeny Kilman) writes:
> Gospoda!
> 
> Ne uje li vi zabili o porutcheke Rjevskom?
> Nadeus' prochest' chto nibud' novoe iz etoi serii
> 
> Gene.

-- Porutchik, vy verite v liubov'?
-- Liubov', he-he, nu kakzhe-s s udovol'stviem-s...
-- Da net, ia umeiu v vidu vysokuiu liubov'.
-- Na kolokol'ne? Nu kakzhe-s...
-- Da net, tak chto by na vsiu zhizn'!
-- Sifilisom ne bolel-s!

-- Natasha, vas kogda-nibud' bili veslom po pizde?
-- A k chemu vy eto, porutchik?
-- Da tak, dlia prodolzheniia razgovora.


Michael Martynov.
From: mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Druz'iam iz Ohio.
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:22:33 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <15121.2b2e6c8e@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
> 
> 
> Da ty, Martynov, nikak niukh poterial. Tebe kto pisdet' razreshal ?
> Esche raz uslyshu - na tsep' posazhu.
> 
> Serega & Co                                     

Ty, zhopa, pizdi, pizdi, da ne zapizdivaisia!  A to zh, mne do vashego
O-hio rukoi podat'.

Ia chelovek goriachii, mogu i pizdy dat'...  A chto b tebe nepovadno bylo,
to predlagaiu prochitat' sleduiushcheie:

Ia vas, pidorasov, znaiu.  Dolboioby huiovye, Apezdoly Makedonskie, Pizdo-
proushiny neproebennye, Zalupy huiebliadskie.  Zhopu porvu, iaitsa otrezhu
(baran'imi nozhnitsami).  A nu, suka, stanovis' rakom i ne vyebyvaisia.  Ia
tebia po-gruzinski ebat' budu -- dolgo i so vkusom.

Ty u menia, padlo, sam svoiu tsep' zhevat' budesh'.

Respectfully,

Michael Martynov.

P.S.  You should be aware, that last week I was promoted from "second"
      private to "first" private in PAARNG.  So, be careful, ubliudok!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Mark Lipsits <ml12@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: RELAX: Evreyskii anekdot
X-Xxdate: Sun, 13 Dec 92 09: 23:29 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: ml12@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:20:14 GMT

In article <101663@netnews.upenn.edu> Sergei Borodin,
sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu writes:
>  A idet ona o tom, chto chelovek, a imenno Mark Lipsits, nikak ne
>  mozhet nauchit'sja obraschat'sja s komputerom, a ot togo pripisyvaet
>  mne chuzhie slova. A pripisav ih mne, delaet duratskii vyvod o moem
>  chuvstve umora. Povod-to, vrode by v dannom sluchae i pustjashnyi, no
>  ja opasaus' kak by eto ne pereroslo v privychku. 


I just want to clear some misuderstanding here.  Sergei, I never tried to
pu someone else's words in your mouth -- I was replying to that strange
outburst about "economical Jews"  Please, understand me, I am using a Mac
which has barely enough memory to run System 7.  The computer itself is a
nusance.  Plus, very often, when I try to post an article it says that
"connection has timed out", and then it assumes all the responsibility
for my article, leaving me without a clue on what to do.  (I'll be glad
to recieve any suggestions)  I guess you had a chance to show off your
wits, and to flame me -- that's cool -- I loose.  But I hope that the
topic is closed now, with my apologies.
As for the people who did not think the jokes were funny -- it is their
right.  I personally think that there are a lot of jokes being posted
that lack a sense of humor.
Mark Lipsits.  Cornell University Engineering ComSci.  AKA
ml12@cornell.edu 
                                        ***Lynah Faithful***
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11300 soc.culture.europe:10630 talk.politics.soviet:9859
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: More on Democratic Rights
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:06:07 GMT
Expires: Thu, 14 Jan 1993 23:00:00 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Alexei Moiseyev (alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk) writes:
>That's where you are wrong.  You have influence over what the
>parliament is doing even after it is elected.  The MPs know that their
>re-election depends on how well they cater for the wishes of the
>electorate.  And they need not care for the wishes of non-electors,
>like Russian speakers in Estonia.  Given the general and highly
>irrational hostility of Estonians towards Russians, Estonian MPs
>not-accountable to the Russian electorate will be able to pass
>legislation discriminating against Estonian Russians, or ignore abuses
>when they are being perpetrated on the margins of legality.  This is,
>of course, the current situation.

No, you have missed - or conveniently overlooked - an important fact.
Next time they do run the risk to be accountable to the post-1940
immigrants as well. This time there was no technical possibility.
But at the next elections, it will be up to the immigrants to decide
if they want to have a citizenship or not. Yes, the language require-
ment is not really fair, but the option is there. To use that option
or not is precisely part of managing one's own life.

>They are not  free and they have no say in what Estonia's forign policy is
>going to be like, and this is part of thier lives; they have no say in
>how much money will be taken away from them in taxes...

They have when it comes to local taxes. Apart from that, there are
many people who are living in democratic countries who have to pay
taxes, but don't have any say over them, because they are not citizens
of the taxing country.
-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11122 soc.culture.europe:10490 talk.politics.soviet:9750
From: alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Baltic
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:23:28 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

Mr.Krawczyk writes:
>I think that if
>there was evil committed in the name of a given nation, even against
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>its will, then representatives of this nation should at least reflect
>	on this and show some sensitivity towards the other nation which
>

Communism?  In the *name* of the Russian Nation?

>was wronged.
>Sure enough this was done under false pretenses, but the feeling of
>the subdued people was quite generally such that it was the
>`Russians' who fell upon them, and not the `Soviets'.

This is probably right.  BUT, NOTHING follows from this when we are
discussing MORAL justifications for what is happening in the Baltics
now.  If "Russians" are identified with "Soviets", this is SIMPLY
wrong.  And cannot possibly justify anything.  And it definetely does
not justify current abuses. 

>I realize very well that the Russians suffered more from communism than
>probably any other nation, at least in terms of absolute numbers,
>perhaps even in relative numbers. However, this in no way influenced
>the attitude of the conquered people for whom the Soviet Union
>was simply an occupying power. In their eyes, they were being wronged 
>by the `Russians' without deliberating the nuances. This might
>explain, though not necessarily justify, the problems Russian
                ^^^              ^^^^^^^
>population e.g. of Estonia now faces.

That's right.  But the whole thing is about justification.

>Regards, Jeremi Krawczyk

						Regards, A.M-T.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: alexei@cartan.math.nd.edu (Alex Strouwe)
Subject: Re: ANECDOTES -- Brezhnev
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:34:29 GMT

Zagadki:

================
Eto chto za Barmalei 
lezet k nam na Mavzolei?
Brovi chernye, gustye 
Rechi dlinnye, pustye.
================
Eto chto za bolshevik
lezet k nam na bronevik?
On bolshuyu kepku nosit
Bukvu R ne proiznosit.
=================

Does anybody would like to continue? 


--

When I tell any Truth it is not for the sake of convincing those
who do not know it, but for the sake of defending those who do.
         
	                           WILLIAM BLAKE Public Address
From: mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: RENAME ?!!
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:10:02 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <1992Dec14.124222.476@rivers>, acs_anshakov@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
> 
> HI, PEOPLE !!
> 
> I AGREE WITH EVERYONE WHO THINKS THAT IT IS TIME TO RENAME
> THIS NEWSGROUP. SOVIET UNION DISAPPEARED MORE THAN A YEAR 
> AGO AND WE STILL HAVE THIS NAME WHICH BECAME HISTORY.
> WE CAN ARGUE ABOUT FUTURE NAME OF THIS GROUP, BUT PRESENT 
> NAME DOES MAKE ANY SENSE.
> PLEASE, LET'S THINK ABOUT IT.
> 
> REGARDS,
> 
> IGOR
> V GLUSHI WISKONSII

May be it's a good idea to rename this groop, but I think that the present
name reflects exactly the spirit of all of us.  Ironically, there exists
soc.culture.cis, but nobody uses it.  

It's true that S.U. disappeared more than a year ago, but, as for me, who
emigrated 2 years ago, it's still S.U. even if it has completely different
name.  You cannot change culture and people just renaming the country;
therefore, soc.culture.SOVIET is more appropriate than any other name (unless
someone wants to see 15-20 different groups like soc.culture.ukrainian, 
soc.culture.russian, soc.culture.moldavian...).

The topics of our discussions remind me a couple of lines from Makarevich:

"...I Armeniiu, i Estoniiu
 likhoradit uzhe v otkrytuiu.
 A my vse smeemsia nad Leneiu,
 Poteshaemsia nad Nikitoiu..."

Let me try to predict the topics which would appear in January-February:
"Estonia 238", "RELAX: Krasnaia Shapochka", "Rozhdestvenskii luchshe chem
Pushkin", "Antisemitism na Chukotke", "Zatknite Vulisa", "Looking for
e-mail address in Tula" etc. etc.

Would somebody think of anything new and refreshing.  As for me, I'm tired
of Estonia discussion, and I'm almost out of "new" jokes.  Sorry, I don't
have enough imagination myself, but I do see some people on the net, who
have creative type of mind.  Com'n, guys.  Think of something!!!  

We make our group SOVIET, not it's name!


Michael Martynov.
From: J.Theodore.Schuerzinger@dartmouth.edu (J. Theodore Schuerzinger)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Turkey in Armenia
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:17:08 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Not if that snot Argic has its way.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11169 talk.politics.soviet:9771 soc.culture.europe:10520
From: alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: neo-Nazi and neo-Communists
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:17:54 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK


Mr.Hietaniemi writes:
In article <12022@sorley.ed.ac.uk>, alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev) 
writes:

>>>Don't you agree with me that the naturalization of the Russian speakers
>>>that want to become Estonian citizens should be made as smooth as
>>possible? 
>> 
>> Well, in a true democracy it would be automatic.  But since Estonia is
>> not a democracy I do agree with you.

>Democracy does not equal giving automatic citizenship to the non-citizens.

I never said it did.  But, in the particular case of Estonia automatic
citizenship for Russian speakers is a NECESSARY condition for democracy.

>It is not very interesting, actually, whether you agree with me or not.
>I have clearly noticed that you disagree in many points. But more important 
>is, whether you agree with the representatives with the Russian parliament
>and government on the Estonian question: read the following piece of news:

Actually it is not important at all whether or not I agree with the
representatives of the Russian parliament.  I have my own opinions,
thank you very much.  Moreover, after what has been done to Yeltsin
over Gaidar and Chernomyrdin I have to say that I am unempressed.

>In which side are you in this dispute? With Rutskoi, Zhirinovsky and 
>Alksnis, which disagree indeed with Bahmin? Or with Bahmin and the Russian
>democrats?

I feel there are more sides to the argument than this.  Further, I
think by now you should be aware of my attitude to people like Alksnis
and Zhirinovsky.  I welcome Baltic independence.  But I do not welcome
Baltic neo-Nazism.  Time and again I have said that  Baltic leaders
are birds of a feather with Alksnis, Zhirinovsky etc.  I dislike them
all, and for just ONE THE SAME reason.

>asks 
>the observer
>Tapani Hietaniemi, Universitas Helsingiensis
>                   urbs fennorum
                                     Answers, A.M-T.