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From: wjh@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (william.j.hery)
Subject: Re: 6th Ave. Electronics--OPINIONS? [and J&R]
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:09:06 GMT
Summary: 6th Ave--NO; J&R--YES

>With all of the discussion of J & R Electronics, I find myself in need of
>an opinion of another mail-order store:  6th Avenue Electronics City.

Living in the NY area, I've tried shopping at the 6th Ave. store. Can
you say sleazy, uninformed (or lying) sales droids? Can you say bait and
switch? Can you say read the fine print in the ads VERY carefully? Can
you say gray market (i. e., no manufacturer's warranty--just a repair
by 6th Ave techies of unknown caliber). Can you say more unpleasant than
any other shopping experience I've ever had?

The one good thing about them is the prices they advertise. I don't think
it will work for high end stereo, but I have used their ad to get another,
more reputable, shop to give me a much better price on a high end Mitsubishi
VCR (they actually matched the price without using the "cash only" clause
in the 6th Avenue ad).

As for J&R, I have dealt with them both in store and mail order several
times over the years (cassette deck, 2 walkmen, 2 discmen, clock radio,
answering machine, lots of small stuff) and I have no complaints. The on
floor sales folks are reasonably helpful, although I would recommend that
you know what you want in advance. Prices, particularly for sale items
are good, but not as low as the sleaze places. For items in the $200-$300
and lower range, you can save a few bucks by careful shopping and/or
dealing with the sleaze places (like 6th Ave), but I've found that the
prices at J&R are close enough that I sometimes just buy an item that
is on sale without spending a lot of time and effort trying to get a better
price. They don't always have everything in the catalog in stock, but they
have always had any adveritsed specials that I wanted in stock. Overall,
I've been very satisfied with J&R and would not hesitate to deal with
them again, or recommend them to a friend.

>I'm looking to buy an Adcom GFA-555II.

Unfortunately, I don't think J&R gets up to this end of the stereo
market.

Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Labs
201-386-2362
hery@att.COM
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham)
Subject: Need advice on an inexpensive, small tape player/radio
Keywords: Spectral DMA 180
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:16:02 GMT

I need a small/inexpensive/tape/stereo for work. This would be something that
I take to work every night in a backpack.

I am sure that many of you have such a thing. (I am not looking for a 18"
wide blaster).

I need a reliable machine and one with very good FM reception. 

Price range: <$40-50.  Please e-mail me any recommendations or brands to
stay away from

thanks very much
mike
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From: jdt@voodoo.boeing.com (Jim Tomlinson)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: J&R Music World - (NY/CA followup)
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:21:10 GMT
Reply-To: jdt@voodoo.boeing.com
Distribution: na
Organization: BoGART To You, Buddy

In article <c1sQ02LU1dQx01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen) writes:

|> >New Yorkers seem no ruder than Californians.
|> 
|> Disagree. I think they do (seem that way) at first, but after living in
|> NYC for a year, I understand why.

    I hate to add a non-audio followup to this, but....Callaghan has a
great cartoon of a Californian and New Yorker: the Californian is
saying "Have a nice day" and thinking "F*ck you"; the New Yorker's
statement and thought are the reverse. ;^)
    Guess that should end this thread...
-- 
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From: fvr@broom.bae.bellcore.com (Frank Ricciardi)
Subject: Re: Taping from CD question
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 19:08:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.140733.1666@ucbeh.san.uc.edu>, vallamn@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
|> 
|> Hi !  I have a question about taping from a CD player on to
|> a Chromium diodide tape.  When I tape from a CD player
|> ( Sony CDP 241 ) on to a JVC compact integrated stereo
|> portable ( PC V 88 ) and I find that the tape, which is
|> a copy, is always a little crisper ( maybe this is a wrong
|> word ) than the CD itself.  What I mean is, there is more
|> zing in the tape than in the CD.  Why is this ?  This does 
   ^^^^

	I think what you are experienceing is an unnatural accentuation of the 
high frequency. Probably due to the fact that you are using a high bias 
tape in normal position. Recording w/Dolby on and playing back with dolby off 
often has the same result. 

	PS. No offense, but the portable is probably not the most accurate 
tape deck in the world.





|> not happen when I use a normal bias tape.  Is that much
|> bias added when I use a CrO2 tape ?  How is metal in this 
|> regard ?
|> 
|> Thank you in advance.
|> 
|> Mohan Vallampati
|> University of Cincinnati
|> Cincinnati, OH 45219
|> ---------------------------------

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________________________________________________________________________________
"If you got to it and didn't do it, may you never get to it, and do it again"


Frank V. Ricciardi

fvr@bae.bellcore.com

Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: cchen@tatung.csl.ncsu.edu (C. Chen)
Subject: For Sale: Rotel RCD855, Adcom GFA535, NAD 1600
Organization: Tatung.csl.ncsu.edu  (Sun Sparc II)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:15:30 GMT

 You can find good review for them in back issues of hi-fi magazines.

 Those are in very good codition (less than two years)
 and with original packaging.

 I am asking $250 for RCD855, $200 for GFA535, and
 $250 for NAD 1600. Buyer pays the shipping plus COD.

 Of course, I would like to sell them all to one person.
 In that case, I will take care of the shipping.
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: hkang@concho.intel.com (Hananel Kang exp 9/92~)
Subject: Polk, Boston Acoustics speakers
Summary: What can I get for <$400?
Keywords: Suggestions, opinions
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:27:41 GMT

Howdy!

I was looking around a local hi-fi shop (bad idea--induces bankruptcy) and
came upon Polk's Monitor 4.6 speakers; the salesperson offered them to me
for $250.  I'd like to solicit your opinions on speakers in that price range
and size -- < $400 and nothing too bulky because I'll be inside dorms and 
apartments for quite a while.  They'll be driven by an NAD 7240PE receiver.

So, here goes:

Is that a good deal for the Polk 4.6's?

The Polk and BA speakers I listened to sounded nice, but the Polk sounded
a little more efficient (louder?).  Are Polk and BA equally good buys in
that price range?

What other brands might have what I'm looking for?  I've heard about Klipsch
and Infinity (sp?); are they comparable?

This is probably a real FAQ (apologies).
Please respond to me by e-mail (one of those 3 below has got to work), 
and I'll summarize...

Thanks in advance,

Keeho Kang

hkang@sedona.intel.com
hkang@hfglobe.intel.com
kangster@athena.mit.edu
From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: J&R Music World - Thumbs down
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:09:42 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

>A few weeks ago I even called with a price query...someone here on the
>Net said J&R was selling DAT 120s for $5.99 or so. The guy I talked
>to on the phone was very courteous and even checked around with the 
>other folks in his office to confirm that they had no such deal that
>anyone was aware of.

I called 'em for the same thing. Turned out the DAT 120's were $ 6.49
in lots of 10+. That's a better deal than Ive seen anywhere.

>New Yorkers seem no ruder than Californians.

Disagree. I think they do (seem that way) at first, but after living in
NYC for a year, I understand why.
From: jpl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (John Patrick Lestrade)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Advice for a novice....please
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:12:32 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

OK, I bought my first (and only) stereo system 20 yrs ago from DIXIE
Warehouse in Wash DC (does anyone remember them?). It is now time
to upgrade.  I do not have the time to invest in scoping out the best 
deals so I am asking for a little advice.  I am not looking for the
"best" in components but I do have a somewhat critical ear and would
like to buy "good" quality.  (I am replacing a Dual turntable, KLH
receiver, Dokorder reel-to-reel, and ADC speakers.)  I would like to
start by buying a double cassette deck.  something that makes good
copies of my LP's but also has high-speed dubbing for my books-in-tape.
If any of you know of a good sale on a good deck, please let me
know.  If I receive separate e-mail, I will post a summary here.
thanks
patrick


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John Patrick Lestrade, PhD                             jpl1@ra.msstate.edu
Department of Physics and Astronomy                    batse::lestrade  (SPAN)
Mississippi State University, MS 39762                 lestrade@msstate.bitnet
From: leconte@irisa.fr (Thierry Leconte bureau AB 302 poste 7294)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: strong desire to vibrate room
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:39:32 GMT
Reply-To: leconte@irisa.fr
Organization: IRISA, Rennes, France

In article 2917@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au, 85p8379@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au () writes:
>Hello, I'm a bit confused about connecting a sub-woofer to my amp.  I have an
>NAD 7225 PE rig with two sets of stereo speaker jacks at the back.  A pair of 6
>ohm NAD 8225's is connected to Speaker A jacks, and I want to connect the
>sub-woofer to Speaker B jacks.  The sub-woofer will be a home-made mono
>12" job, and I plan to incorporate a filter to reject anything above 100 Hz.
>Sound reasonable ?  Reasonable sound ?

Only if you are sure that the  NAD 8225's have cut off freqency of 100 Hz
and the same slope in the bass as your filter.
If not you must have a hight pass filter in front of the 8225 too ....

> QUESTION:  How do i feed the stereo
>signal into a mono speaker ? 

You can't !
The good solutions are :
1  use a double coil speaker
2  two speakers for the sub
3  an active subwoofer with his own power amplifier and 
   an active crossover ....

> One guy told me to just tie left and right
>outputs of Spkr B together,

Don't believe him

> I somehow don't think this is a good idea, coz it 
>will no doubt short out the stereo signal coming out of Spkr A as well !? 

Right

>Others have suggested I use a difference signal, i.e. + of left and + of right
>connected to sub-woofer, leave earths out of circuit.  Someone said this is
>risky.  Why ?  Short ?  Bang ? 

Not risky but you'll only get the difference between left and right and 
not the sum !


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From: desmondw@merrimack.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Looking For THX Info
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:02:42 GMT
Organization: Merrimack College, No. Andover, MA, USA

In article <15014@umd5.umd.edu>, fwilliam@lab5.smcm.edu (Frank Williams) writes:
> 
> Can anyone E-mail me and address in which to gather information on home  
> THX.  Preferably from Lucas's company directly.
> 
> Fwilliam@oyster@smcm.edu
> 
> Thanks in advance

I had the pleasure of listening to one of these systems not too long ago.
It was very impressive. It sounded just like the theater. All the products
were Technics(switcher,Amp,Front speakers,rear,surround,subs). I was ready
to buy until the guy said it was $9899 for the whole thing plus tax and
you had to buy it as a whole set. If you're interested, I could give you
the name and address tomorrow. They have a couple of pamphlets.
                                            Bill
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: tuzman@ee.umn.edu (grad student Alvaro K. Tuzman)
Subject: Re: Adding magnetic shielding to speakers
Keywords: speakers shielding video magnetic
Organization: Electrical Engineering, U of MN, Mpls.
Distribution: us
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:16:57 GMT

Dear Audio-crowd:

I have decided to build my own pair of speakers. This is going to be my
first time, so I decided to buy a kit. In this way I can experiment, but
with some guidance, hoping not to be too far away from the "correct" (?)
tweaking. I would like to get a very clear speaker, unfortunatelly in a
budget. Here's where I am: I got in touch with a very friendly and
knowledgable guy in the net, who gave me many basic guidances, told me 
about books and papers, and a little bit about drivers.

I've looked at the following kits (not in order of preference
necessarily), 
and I would greatly appreciate any advise for the final decision on
which 
one to buy:

(all prices without cabinets, except 4))

1) D'APPOLITO 717 SIGNATURE SPEAKER

Woofer: Scan Speak 18W8544 Kevlar (2)
Tweeter: Scan Speak D2905
network: 4th order Linkwitz-Riley at 2200 Hz
Price: $560

I was warned about Kevlar break up, but since this crossover is at a
very 
low frequency, I thought it may not be a problem. The ad says it has
very 
clerar midrange. (This kit is a little bit expensive for me, but I might
get 
there).

2) Davis MV7

Woofer: 20MC8A
Tweeter: TW26T
Mid: 13KLV5MA
Crossover filter: 6/6/12/12 dB slopes, 500/4500 Hz
Price: $415

3) Gemini

Woofer: 15W758 (2)
Tweeter: D260
Crossover: ?
Price: $662

The people at Madisound told me that this kit is great. Looking at the 
tweeter curves, the D260 seems to have a big attenuation away from the 
axis starting at less than 10 Khz. It seems to me that if you don't
listen to 
your system always from the same sofa you could get in trouble. 

4) Phoenix

Madisound 10208 woofer
Peerless 1615 mid
Vifa D20TD05 
frequency range: 35 - 20K +-2dB
crossover: 18 db, impedance compensated
$ 600 with cabinets.

5) The Twinn

It has 2 woofers and a tweeter in a D'Appolito configuration.
Woofer: 17W75 (2 of them)
Tweeter: D-28 AF
$500

Thanks in advance for any comments.

Alvaro K. Tuzman
Univesity of Minnesota
tuzman@ee.umn.edu
From: bill@phys.anu.edu.au (Bill Alford)
Subject: Unity Audio range of speakers
Reply-To: bill@phys.anu.edu.au
Organization: SCU, RSPhyScE, Australian National University, Canberra
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 02:28:55 GMT

Does anybody have any comments to make about the Unity Audio range of speakers,
particularly the Fountainhead and CAL 1. The Fountainhead is a
holographic speaker
that couples the bass to the room beautifully.

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Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu ()
Subject: Speakers	
Reply-To: jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu
Organization: AISS/Telecom University of Illinois -- Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:46:13 GMT
Keywords: Info 

Hello,
 I just started reading this news group, so if this has been
 gone over & over ......pardon me.

 I am looking for a pair of great sounding speakers that can
  handle a wide range of music styles ( classical - rock ) that
  does not take alot of power to drive them, sounds tight & crisp
  at low volumes, and is under $500.00 US. 
 
  Any ideas ?


  Thanks

  Jim Crouse 
  Univ. of Illinois
Newsgroups: rec.audio
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Re: Wheres the FAQ? (Newbie ??'s)
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 08:58:25 GMT



Thanks for the replies.

Well, here goes - a real question...

I'm looking to get a preamplifier, and was wondering what the net would
reccommend.  

I have a hybrid of studio/home gear, some of which gets loaned out so
it would be nice to eventually separate the two..

Well, I don't have a record player, so I need mostly line inputs for:
Home hifi:
Sony CD x55es
Nakamichi CR4e

Studio hifi (possibly):
12 channel mixer
Drum machine 
Bass pre-amp (Hi! I'm a bassist.)

Maybe the best thing to do is feed all the studio stuff into the mixer
and patch the mixer into a line on the pre amp...?

Main power: Peavy Deca 424 (2x200W) (Digital studio/PA amp)

Speakers: Tannoy (don't remember the model nr.) and Infinity (ditto).

I'v looked at NAD, Elektrocompaniet (Local made :-), Mission/Cyrus,
Denon, and surely a few more.  Right now I'd like to see what is
available and what recommendation people have.  Price isn't important,
and I'm sure the prices in US/Europe are very different from here...

_PLEASE_ don't start a flame war over what is best - e-mail me and
I'll summarize.

Regards,
Thor
From: basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Audiolab amps
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:27:37 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

ianchan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ian Hin Yun Chan) writes:

>I'm wondering what people think of the Audiolab 8000 pre/power amps as compared
>to similarly priced Adcom gear. That is, of course, assuming that people have
>_heard_ of Audiolab before.... What are their prices, and where are they
>available? Audiolab is British, BTW, and I'm interested primarily in their line
>level inputs (read: I don't play LP). A few key specs would also be
>appreciated.
>Thanks once again!
>- Ian

Last time I looked, the 8000A preamp was reasonably good sounding but
cheaply constructed, given its price (murderous exchange rate :o( ).
I have been thrilled with my adcom gear (cartridge and amp) and have
recommended it to my friends, who've also been pleased.
I've gone through a lot of High-End
stuff (don't get me started) and found that Adcom knows right where
to sit on the price/performance curve to give the champagne sound at the
beer price, to coin a phrase.  Stay away from their remote control, it
costs an arm and a leg (more cliches, stop me before I...).  I'd definitely
go with the 535 amp over the Audiolab if value for the buck is at all a
concern.  Same goes for the preamp, but the 535 is definitely the jewel.
As always, listen first to something you _really_ like, regardless of price.
Then pick the system that fits your budget and comes closest to your ideal
stereo sound.

Dave
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From: quinn@dartmouth.edu (Jerry Quinn)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: ADC eq
Date: 15 Aug 92 17:01:00 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I believe ADC was/is a subsidiary of BSR.  DAK sold their SS300 for a
while before selling BSR nameplates, so you might try them for help.
If nothing else, maybe they can point you to BSR.

Jerry Quinn
quinn@cs.dartmouth.edu
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quinn@cs.dartmouth.edu
From: hedrick@athos.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Passive preamps revisited
Date: 15 Aug 92 21:42:24 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I've read reviews in a couple of different magazines (primarily Audio)
of passive preamps.  The reviews seem to take for granted that due to
some impedance mismatch that they never quite explained, passive
preamps will always lose the high frequencies.  So generally their
frequency response is not flat.  The claim is that they win in other
ways.
From: rolfe@fraser.sfu.ca (Christopher John Rolfe)
Newsgroups: rec.audio
Subject: Re: Math problem - pitch control
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:20:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

sue@snafu.seada.com (Sue Raul) writes:

>Does anyone know the way to figure this out:

>If a normal speed tape deck has a pitch control that
>goes 10% in both directions, how many semitones does
>it go in both directions?

	I'm posting rather than mailing so that someone can check my
figures.

	to solve x^n=y where
		2^n = 1.1  ( i.e. +10% )
	we use
		log(y) / log(x) = n
	or,     log(1.1) / log(2) = 0.137505
expressed as semitones it's
	0.137505 * 12 =  +/- 1.6500423 semitones

I think.
	If you need to know precisely what effect on pitch 10% speed
trim will have, however, I wouldn't rely on the 10% being anything
except a rough figure.  The specs may give you a more precise number,
but the pot could still be wonky.  Try a recorded test tone against
the source.  If you have an oscillator you should be able to adjust it
by ear until the frequencies match.

Chris
rolfe@sfu.ca
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