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From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: SA vs India (2nd Test)
Organization: Wits University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 14:02:40 RSA

I think reality is going to hit home when the Indians find the going tough
at the Wanderers. Praveen Amre had bailed them out in the first test, and
again against the Presidents X1, but how long can this continue for?
 
If Alan Donald stikes form, and Brian McMillan playing the way he is,
the chaaros are in for alot of trouble.
 
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From: cctr123@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Alan Murray, CSC Operations, Uni of Canty)
Subject: Re: NZ first class results wanted
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:49:56 GMT

In article <222@syllogi.syllogic.nl>, ajl@syllogic.nl (Albert-Jan Luikinga) writes:
> Is there someone who can give me some NZ first class results, specialy
> figures of Roger Ford. I think he is playing for Auckland, but I'm not
> sure.

Well I'll do it as soon as the New Zealand season starts.

Roger Ford plays for Canterbury and should make the first XI for most of this
season as we should lose a few players to the New Zealand side.

Alan
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From: andyc@is.morgan.com (Andrew Coad)
Subject: Re: Chinese bowling
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:13:10 GMT

In article <01GRC3715KYA98558I@ccmail.sunysb.edu>, ABEGLEY@ccmail.sunysb.edu (Anthony M. Begley) writes:
|> 
|>                State University of New York at Stony Brook
|>                        Stony Brook, NY 11794-2275
|> 
|>                                             Anthony M. Begley
|>                                             Materials Science
|>                                             516 632-8516
|>                                             19-Nov-1992 11:58am EST
|> FROM:  ABEGLEY
|> TO:    Remote Addressee                     ( _rec-sport-cricket@cs.utexas.edu )
|> 
|> SUBJECT: Chinese bowling                                              
|> 
|> Dear All,
|> 
|> I know this is going to reach you all x hhours after the issue is settled but 
|> can we have some DEFINITIVE clarification on the Chinaman..
|> 
|> Let us   first define some terms:
|> 
|> an OFF break spins into a RRH batsman regardless of which arm bowled it
|> a LEG break spins away from a RH batsmman regarrdless ...
|> 

Gotta correct you on that one. Off-breaks and leg-breaks are different for rh
and lh bowlers:

For a RH bowler, the 'normal' action (wrist turning clockwise on delivery)
produces an off-break.
For a LH bowler, the 'normal' action (wrist turning anti-clockwise on delivery)
also produces an off-break. (LH off-breaks move in the opposite direction to RH
off-breaks).
For a RH bowler, a reverse motion of the wrist (anti-clockwise) produces a leg-
break.
For a LH bowler, a reverse motion of the wrist (clockwise) also produces a leg-
break.
In other words a LH leg-break bowler moves the ball in the same direction as a RH
off-break bowler and a LH off-break bowler moves the ball in the same direction
as a RH leg-break bowler.
A googly is a RH bowler delivering an off-break with a leg-break action. I.e the
ball appears to have been imparted an anti-clockwise spin but in fact it is the
opposite.
A Chinaman is the LH version of this which is again an off-break with a leg
break action.

Therefore, for a RH batsman, a chinaman will appear by the bowlers action to move
into the batsman (assuming for the time being the bowler is bowling around the
wicket) but will in fact move away.


Cheers buddy
AC

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From: conrad@actrix.gen.nz (Conrad Bullock)
Subject: New Zealand tour of Sri Lanka called off (Maybe)
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:33:32 GMT

(A bit hazy - forgive me - I have only heard a couple of radio reports)

New Zealand's cricket tour of Sri Lanka has apparently been called
off, after a bomb was set off outside their hotel, killing 5 people,
including the bomber, and the country's navy commander. It sounds as
if some of the players are not happy continuing, and the Sri Lankan
cricket board announced it would make arrangements for the tourists to
be sent home.
The NZ Cricket Board has not yet officially called the tour off
(meeting this morning), but said they would take the players' feelings
into account.
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From: ramprasa@bromine.ecn.purdue.edu (Ramprasad Ramakrishna)
Subject: Itchy Fingers
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:29:39 GMT


There are some absolutely cloth-headed bunch of X...Y...Z's
on this net.
The one's who have to post an inquiry on the net every 2 minutes
asking for the score.
There are people posting as regularly as once every 2 hours and if you cannot 
be satisfied with this , take the next flight to SA
and go watch the damn match

Prasad
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From: karnik@deci.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Subject: Re: Cricket and provincialism
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:21:01 GMT

In <Nov17.092849.28484@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Sohban Shahid) writes:

>Folks its 2.30 in the morning and I need to get some
>sleep but today I will present my opinions on this
>issue. Please keep your fingers crossed.



	Hey Sohban, we're still waiting, with bated breath :-> How much 
longer will it be ? My fingers are badly cramped by now :-)



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From: taravade@shark.ecn.purdue.edu (Kunal N Taravade)
Subject: Re: BEST BOWLING IN TESTS
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: 21 Nov 92 20:49:31 GMT

VGC@ECLX.PSU.EDU (Venu Gopal Chalamgari) writes:

>HAI,
>    THE HIGHEST WICKET TAKERS IN A SINGLE TEST ARE
>    JIM LAKER (AUS)- 19 WICKETS- VS ENGLAND AT THE OVAL
>    NARENDRA HIRWANI-19 WICKETS-VS WEST INDIES AT MADRAS
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

You must be kidding, right? Hirwani took 16 wickets and
only equalled Bob Massey's performance for Australia vs
England . Jim Laker is still the world record holder for
the best bowling analysis in a test match.
 

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Kunal N. Taravade
School of Electrical Engineering
Purdue University
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From: SHARIQ@charlie.usd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Waqar
Date: 18 Nov 1992 17:18:32 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Waqar made his semi internationall debut against Dehli in the Wills Super Cup
and after having one look at him Imran had him pushed onto the Pakistan team
touring Sharjah in the fall of 1989. After an electrifying performance in
Sharjah Waqar was chosen to play in the first test against the visiting Indians
also in the 1989-90 season. His test debut was electrifying as well. Did you
know that Waqar has a deformity in his non-bowling hand, and that he went to 
school in the United Arab Emirates, for some time before turning his interest 
to cricket completely.

Shariq
From: rajesh@daisy (Rajesh Raman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: cricket quiz
Date: 24 Nov 1992 00:45:06 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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Venu Gopal Chalamgari (VGC@ECLX.PSU.EDU) wrote:
: 
:   Hai,
:        I have the following questions, for which i dont have an answer
:  could any one answer these
: 3. who is the only indian player who recalled a batsmen after he was
given out
  G.R.Vishwanath - Golden Jubilee Test 1980 India vs. England.
: by the umpire?
: 4.who is the highest wicket taker in ranji trophy?
  Rajinder Singh Goel
: 7.who is the player who played hockey for the national team and also led
: its cricket team in a test nmatch?
  David Houghton of Zimbabwe (I'm not too sure about this one.)

Rajesh
From: KSRAO@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: WI v Australian XI D3 stumps
Date: 16 Nov 1992 06:02:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

    India v SA

       Most probably, there will be no play possible today, the fourth day at
Kingsmead.

WI v Australian XI

WI were bowled out for 382. Australians are 142 for 3 at stumps. Both Bishop
with a bruised shoulder and Benjamin with a sore left heel are off the field.

NZ team in Sri Lanka.

    NZ team is now in Sri Lanka and there is a scare today. There was a bomb
explosion in Colombo which killed a naval commander. That explosion shook the
hotel in which NZ team are staying. The team is considering whether to go ahead
with the tour or not. They are getting advice from the NZ ministry of External
Affairs. The team will be leaving for Kandy to day as scheduled.
From: amanning@acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: WI v Australian XI D3 stumps
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:45:38 GMT
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research - Atmospheric Chemistry Div

In article <9211161202.AA08500@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> KSRAO@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu writes:
>NZ team in Sri Lanka.
>
>    NZ team is now in Sri Lanka and there is a scare today. There was a bomb
>explosion in Colombo which killed a naval commander. 

Didn't a very similar thing happen the last time NZ toured Sri Lanka? Maybe
they don't like Kiwis?
From: D.I.Patel@lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Amre's batting performance
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:45:49 GMT
Reply-To: D.I.Patel@lut.ac.uk (Lord of the Lords)
Distribution: rec.sport.cricket
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.

Hi netters,

I m sure most of you will agree with me that the battingby Amre was excellent
and hope he will continue doing so for the rest of his test carrer.  (even 
though there are some on the net who think Amre should be dropped for the
next test in favour of Raman (to fulfill the TN quotas!!!!!!!!!)).

Also a word of thanks to the people in SA for their summary of the 1st test.
Keep it coming ...... 
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From: imran@Lise.Unit.NO (Muhammed Imran Mushtaq)
Subject: Test
Keywords: Test
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:02:37 GMT

This is a test, just ignore it.

 thanx
 M.Imran
  NTH
From: shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Mr. Shivanan Bhajekar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Chinaman Delivery
Date: 18 Nov 1992 13:05:00 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nyquist.usc.edu

In article <1992Nov18.193100.5184@julian.uwo.ca> raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed) writes:
>In article <1edts3INNitt@nyquist.usc.edu>, shivanan@nyquist.usc.edu (Mr. Shivanan Bhajekar) writes:
>|> In article <1992Nov18.163325.4111@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> nas_ps@jsc.nasa.gov writes:
>|> >Could anyone explain the chinaman delivery (bowler's) ? Thanks.
>|> 
>|> 	It is the "wrong one" bowled by a left arm spinner.
>
>'wrong un' i.e., i think.  Basically its a incoming delivery bowled by left arm legbreak 

	Same thing baby. un = one. Accent play.

>bowler, similar to googley by right arm legbreak bowler. I would also like to know

	It is not just an incoming delivery. Any leftarm bowler bowling
	round the wicket would have the ball coming in to the right handed
	batsman. Also called the armer. 

	Believe it or not, The armer is the only ball Ravi Shastri can bowl!

	It is the ball that spins into the r.h. batsman which is called the
	chinaman

>different techniques of bowling it i usually bowl(try to) a straight ball by using the
>crease.....
	
	Try bowling Top spinners. Chandra, Siva and Hirwani WERE perfect
	exponents of this art.

	Shivanand Bhajekar
	
>S.R.Raza.
>raza@surya.engrg.uwo.ca


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From: penglish@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Paul English)
Subject: Re: SA vs India Full Score Card (LONG)
Organization: Macquarie University, Australia.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:58:28 GMT

In article <duck.722253325@nuustak> duck@nuustak.csir.co.za (Paul Ducklin) writes:
>Could you post more info on the "electronic eye" business -- is this 
>experimental, or has the ICC decided permanently that TV is to be legal 
>in assisting umpires? 
>
>It worries me. Certainly, umpires are getting judged [and blamed and crapped
>upon] on the basis of TV replays, so I can see some logic behind the ICC
>wanting to allow umpires to make their own *positive* use of a medium which
>is often used *against* them. However, my experience of umpiring and of 
>watching TV suggests to me that PAL TV, at 25Hz, just doesn't seem to produce
>enough data to decide on things like catches at the wicket. I've often
>watched replays where commentators have said things like "look at that; a wild
>stroke, but a correct decision -- he didn't get anywhere near it", whilst
>the slowmo *I* saw showed two successive frames with the ball approaching
>first and leaving it on the second. In other words, no frame showing the
>actual behaviour of the ball near the bat. 
>

It was reported on ABC radio (Australia) that the cameras were to be used
in doubtful stumping and run out decisions, where it is usually possible to
determine from a single frame whether or not a batsman is out.  As always,
if the third umpire couldn't determine one way or another the batsman gets
the benefit of the doubt.  I couldn't see cameras being able to judge on
too many lbw or caught behind decisions with sufficient certainty at the
moment, and from what I heard it looks like they aren't going to be used
for these decisions yet.


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From: ABEGLEY@ccmail.sunysb.edu (Anthony M. Begley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Chinese bowling
Date: 19 Nov 1992 11:19:07 -0600
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-2275

                                            Anthony M. Begley
                                            Materials Science
                                            516 632-8516
                                            19-Nov-1992 11:58am EST
FROM:  ABEGLEY
TO:    Remote Addressee                     ( _rec-sport-cricket@cs.utexas.edu )

SUBJECT: Chinese bowling                                              

Dear All,

I know this is going to reach you all x hhours after the issue is settled but 
can we have some DEFINITIVE clarification on the Chinaman..

Let us   first define some terms:

an OFF break spins into a RRH batsman regardless of which arm bowled it
a LEG break spins away from a RH batsmman regarrdless ...

a ball bowled by a left hander than spins into the batsman would be achieved by 
a similar hand action as a right hander bowling a leg break -- this is not what 
I believe (I may be wrong) a chinaman is.

AS one person said a chinaman is the equivalent of a RH googlie
i.e. it is bowled by a LH, it looks like a LH off break but it spins away from 
the batsman, i.e. a leg break. It is thus a wrong- (the abbreviation of "one" to 
"un" is classic of the North of England, i.e., Cheshire, Lancashire, BTW.
To sum up a chinaman spins towards the slips.

Naturally chinaman bowlers are very rare since LH leg spinners are very rare -- 
any examples out there, anybod? 

Some other observations:

1) great reporting from SA, thanks very much.

2) No offence here, but God I was beginning to get bored by the discussions on 
tthe Indian selection polic(I guesess I am just jealous you guys have so much to 
discuss).

Im afraid such bandwidthhh has a negative result -- as an impartial (albeit) 
English  observer of the Test series I am now willing India to fail as it makes 
for more entertaining r.s.c. articles from our Indian friends.:-))

3) Dont you all think its ironic that everyone hates the regional selection 
policy in India, but then when a certain area has no players selected (the 
South, I believe) everyone complains !!

Best wishes to all,
Tony Begley
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Subject: Re: Imran's career statistics (Test)
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:38:47 EST
Organization: Penn State University

In article <00963E3C.A86A5860@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali
Iyer) says:
>
>Here are the career figures for Imran Khan, who recently announced his
>"irrevocable" retirement.
>
>Bowling Test Career
>
>_______________________________________________________________________
>               Balls    Mdns    Runs    Wkts    Av.   5WI  10WM   Best
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>New Zealand    1788      73      672     46    14.60   3     1    8-58
>
>Sri Lanka      2191      68      874     31    28.19   1     -   5-106
>
there's a mixup here. imran's career best figures of 8-58 and 6-58 in the same
match were vs sri lanka.

Stay cool,
Sunil.

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From: nas_ps@geds01.jsc.nasa.gov (Pradip R. Shah)
Subject: Durrani's fastest 50!!!
Reply-To: nas_ps@geds01.jsc.nasa.gov
Organization: G.E. Government Services
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:34:23 GMT

I remember when news came from New Zealand that B. Taylor (all-rounder) had scored
the fastest 50 in late 60's, the impeccable statistician Anandji Dosa disputed and 
immediately brought out the stat that Durrani had scored faster than Taylor- I
believe the time was around 29 minutes.  In those days, i guess, the scoring rate
was based on number of minutes (hours) -  not a good criterion - rather than
no. of deliveries. 

Can anyone shed light on the fastest 50 or even 100 based on number of deliveries in
the test cricket ?  

P.S. : A. Dosa and Durrani are from India

Pradip Shah   GE
From: kaushik@dvorak.amd.com (Kaushik Chhotani)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Best Indian XI   (Re: Amre should be dropped)
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:57:59 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

In article <761@wavefront.wti.com> ravi@wti.com (Ravi Raj) writes:
>
> (stuff deleted)

> Best Indian XI (In recent times)
> --------------------------------
>
>    Name                        NOTES
>    ----                        -----
>
> 1. Arun Lal (capt)      His batting avg will make B.S. Chandrasekhar proud.
> 2. Pronob Roy           His batting avg will make Arun Lal proud.
> 3. M.L. Narasimha Rao   He has all the strokes in the world, including
>                         a single handed snick over the slips.
> 4. Kirti Azad           Send him in only when the spinners bowl. If they never
>                         get to bowl - take Sekhar's help to hurt retire him. 
> 5. Surinder Khanna (wk) With his acrobatics, the slip fielders had better
>                         watch out.
> 6. Yajurvendra Singh    Should not field - Captain's orders. Allowed to
>                         bat, bowl, bring drinks - but never field.
> 7. Dhiraj Parsanna      Can bowl real fast - can also bowl spin - leg
>                         spin, off spin, googly, chinaman whatever.
> 8. Suru Nayak           His tantalizing leg spins are a nightmare.
>                         Ask the close-in fielders.
> 9. T.A. Sekhar          Bowls real, real fast. Only don't let him bowl
>                         2 consecutive overs - he has asthma.
>10. Dilip Doshi          You'd better give him bowling. Otherwise, he'll start
>                         bowling from the outfield. Excellent fielder too.
>11. Bharath Reddy        A few of you might question the inclusion of a second
>                         keeper. But those of you who've seen Khanna keep won't 
>
>12th man: Sandip Patil   Will field except when S. Nayak bowls - At that 
>                         time, he'll field outside the stadium.
>

Now, now Ravi!! Aren't you inviting some real drastic criticisms?? You haven't
even used the ":-)" smiley!! Man, you are in big trouble now :-) :-)

BTW, your descriptions of the players are great!!! Excellent choice I should 
say!!!

Kaushik

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From: karnik@deci.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: West Indies
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:29:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: deci.karnik.722140191
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <921118182033.3fb2@charlie.usd.edu> SHARIQ@charlie.usd.edu writes:

>>Lara : 		Easily the most promising batsman in the world
>****************************************************************************
>What garbage? Tendulkar is the most promising batsman in the world. How many
>hundreds has Lara got? No doubt that he is really very good but the most....!


	Nyah nyah.. I agree with the OP, Tendulkar is no longer a promising
batsman, he's already delivered the goods, while Lara is still in the 
'promising' category :-) So you see, Lara's competition is Inzamam, not
Tendulkar :->


>Shariq

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From: mukul@laser2.engr.utk.edu (Mukul Shirvaikar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Amre justifies selection
Keywords: Amre
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:38:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: utkux1.1992Nov15.193846.25002
Organization: University of Tennessee ECE dept.


With his superb century Amre has justified his last minute 
selection for the test match. 

Mukul
From: tom@cs.su.oz.au (Thomas James Jones)
Subject: Re: ZIM vs NZ T2 FINAL
Reply-To: tom@cs.su.oz.au
Organization: Basser Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:37:00 GMT

In article <00963839.D60F0BC0@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
|> In article <1992Nov12.200036.4461@julian.uwo.ca>, raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed) writes:
|> >First loss for Zimbabwe, still a good start to test cricket considering that
|> >they suffered their first loss in third match they played
|> 
|> Not to nitpick but it was their 2nd Test, and if you are counting
|> the limited over match then they have played a lot of that stuff.
|> Bye,

	I think it was their third test, the initial one v India
	and two in the just completed NZ series.
	Of course, everyone knows that one-dayers only count when
	your side is winning them!

	tom [who hopes test cricket survives forever or at least a few hundred
		years]

|> 
|> 
|>        *********************************
|>        *	N.Ramasubramanian      *    	    
|>        *********************************
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