HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tms@twins.lanl.gov (Todd M. Swan)
Subject: Re: Did comp.sys.next.richposts pass?
Reply-To: tms@twins.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Lab
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:55:45 GMT

In article <12388@tamsun.tamu.edu> cnh5730@maraba.tamu.edu (Charles Herrick)  
writes:
> In article <1992Apr10.173911.4603@newshost.lanl.gov>  
> tms@twins.lanl.gov (Todd M. Swan) writes:
> $ In article <1992Apr10.160856.2790@cs.yale.edu>  
> nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu  
> $ (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> $ > If anyone bothers to announce the results of the vote, I'm
> $ > sure there will be a nice new comp.sys.next.rtf, where
> $ > such neat posts will most *definitely* belong. 
> $ 
> $ I bet there won't be.  Even if there is it won't work.
> 
> I hope there will be.
> 
> A negative result of the voting on the recently-proposed  
> comp.sys.next.richposts should be construed as an affirmative for  
> continued (perhaps even expanded) rich-text postings on all other  
> comp.sys.next.* groups.

comp.sys.next.richposts failed.

Prepare for the onslaught...

:-)

Todd
--
!  "Finally, some good  ! Todd M. Swan (ADP-2 - MS P910)!
!  software for a PC."  ! tms@lanl.gov  (NeXTMail)      !
!  -- Steve Jobs on     ! Los Alamos National Laboratory!
!     NeXTstep '486     ! Los Alamos, NM  87545         !
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted:  frame-grabber for still video
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:14:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.191410.12938@cs.rose-hulman.edu>  
kucerarj@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Ryan J Kucera) writes:
> In article <1992Apr9.203724.27656@news.nd.edu> jscott@vardamir.next.nd.edu  
> (james scott) writes:
> > I have a small problem.  I would like to transfer images from a Cannon  
> Xap  
> > Shot still video camera to the NeXT via the video inputs on the ND  
> board.   
> I encountered a problem when I first connected my Xap Shot but I found out  
> there is a little switch on the bottom of the camera so that it will make  
> the signal interlaced.  If you look, there is a black little circle on the  
> bottom.  If you pull it off you'll see the switch.  That fixed mine.

Good advice- it helps a lot on most digitizers.  Remember,
though, that this just doubles the lines during playback
and doesn't increase the resolution.  It's still just
fields stored on the disk.  You can interpolate the lines
in between for a smoother picture, if you want.  Makes some
things look a lot better.

Also, only playback with the AC adaptor.  Running off
batteries kills them quick and is more likely to make your
time base irregular.  I didn't have trouble running from
battery power but I've heard some do.  Besides, you can
recharge your battery while you're using the AC adaptor.

(I don't digitize on my NeXT ('cause the University
didn't buy me enough stuff to do it), so your mileage may
vary.  I do it on my Amiga and then walknet the pictures to
nova.  Damn fine images too.)

Allen B (Have Xapshot, will travel)
From: iwelch@agsm.ucla.edu (Ivo Welch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NG dies on me
Organization: UCLA, Anderson Graduate School Of Management
Distribution: usa
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:21:04 PDT


All of a sudden, Newsgrazer (latest version 72.0) has died on me. It puts up
"Locating Active Newsgroups," then simply disappears. No messages at the
console. Deleting .newsrc doesn't matter either.

Does anyone have an idea why? Please send me e-mail. I can no longer read this
newsgroup regularly.

/ivo welch
ivo@next.agsm.ucla.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: I'll be Posting the entire People database in RTF next week
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:49:39 GMT



In article <1992Apr12.122458.5337@next32.isnet.com> dstrout@next32.isnet.com  
(Dave Strout) writes:

> I have this dream of setting up a script to automatically
> post 1/7 of the "People" database to comp.sys.next.misc
> each day JUST to tick off the anti-rtf faction.

That would be very mature.

> IMHO the problem is one of philosophy, not technology. 
> The NeXT allows you do things that the rest of the world
> can't keep up with.  The question is, whose problem is it? 
> NeXTs/the NeXT users, or the rest of the world's?  I think
> it's the rest of the world's problem to keep up. 

IMHO, the problem is that you would prefer to ignore the
example in other comp groups which provides for separate
groups for binary postings.  Such groups provide for the
needs of both the pro and con factions.  There will most
likely be such a group within days, and you can then
impress yourself (and others) with your RTF postings,
without causing undue distress to people who can't
appreciate your RTF genius (lack of NewsGrazer), or
don't wish to fund its transport (lack of $$$).   

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Lotus limitations
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:41:36 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

> 1. Artificial but rigid limit of 1500 data points for any series!
> 2. The pure freedom of display postscript, resizing, reshaping, etc. has a
> downside effect in Improv of not allowing me to create standard templates.  

you can pass your comments and suggestions to Lotus by calling
1 617)693-7903 and leaving a message on the machine

This didnt work recently but now works again
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jiro@shaman.com (Jiro Nakamura)
Subject: Re: Diagram! Engage! Enough!
Organization: Shaman Consulting
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 06:43:36 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.023445.5502@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca>  
aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno) writes:
> Well, when I get done with my current app, I think that I shall call it:
> 
> "*"
> 
> The quotation marks are NOT optional, and they have to be pronounced  
with  
> the asterisk.


Great! NeXTwatch will review it in an upcoming issue. The question I have  
is, are we allowed to use printers quotes for your package name or just  
straight quotes?

	- Jiro

ps. tempted to use RTF but not sure everyone would agree. ;-)
-- 
Jiro Nakamura				jiro@shaman.com (NeXTmail)
NeXTwatch / Technical Editor		76711,542 (CIS)
The Shaman Group			+1 607 277-1440 (Voice/Fax)
From: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Diagram! Engage! Enough!
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 02:34:45 GMT
Reply-To: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca

In article <1992Apr7.051620.7708@shaman.com> jiro@shaman.com (Jiro  
Nakamura) writes:
> In article <1992Apr4.205331.253@lighthouse.com> gibraltar!wiley (Wiley  
S.  
> Hodges) writes:
> > Result: how many exclamation points do you see in the name  
> > "Concurrence?"
> 
> Wiley -
> 	Is that the new name for Concurrence, Concurrence? If so, I'll  
> have to fix up my NeXTwatch review of Concurrence? It's awful weird to  
> review a product with a question mark after it..... Now, could you send  
a  
> Newsgrazer sound bite with the proper pronunciation for Concurrence?  
> 	Jeez, it's even worse than Diagram! You can say the same about  
> Engage! I'm just glad Cliff didn't name Executor, "Executor heh heh heh  
> heh heh....".
> 	I think I will rename The Shaman Group, The Shaman Group. 
> That's "The Shaman Group." full stop. Should get editors real confused.  
> :-)  

Well, when I get done with my current app, I think that I shall call it:

"*"

The quotation marks are NOT optional, and they have to be pronounced with  
the asterisk.

-Anthony
From: alanlb@thor.cs.vt.edu (Alan L. Batongbacal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Questions about Fujitsu drives
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:22:31 GMT
Reply-To: alanlb@cs.vt.edu
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept., Blacksburg, VA

Hi there!  I'm about to spend an awfully large chunk of my savings on
a larger drive and I have a few questions:

1) What is the formatted capacity of a 2624SA (the one that's ~540MB)
   using 1024-byte sectors?

2) What are the differences between a 2624S and a 2624SA?

3) Are the 5.25" full-height externals *really* noisy (my second choice
   is the ~660MB model), e.g. would you go nuts in a quiet apartment
   bedroom?  I once tried out a pre-production Seagate 1480N and it whined
   at such a high pitch I made me nauseous.

4) Suppose I swap my internal (I have a NeXTstation) with the 2624SA.
   Is it true that that particular drive runs really hot, and if so,
   any ramifications vis-a-vis component life?

Thank you very much!

--
+---------------------------------------------v-----------------------------+
| Alan L. Batongbacal                         | "If you spew and she bolts, |
| alanlb@cs.vt.edu                            |  it was never meant to be." |
| Bleaksburg, VA 24060                        |    -- Wayne Campbell        |
+---------------------------------------------^-----------------------------+
From: arno@cubx.fdn.gna.org (Arnaud Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: dsp device
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:26:39 GMT
Reply-To: arno@cubx.fdn.gna.tfd.com
Organization: Cub'X Systemes, France.

Hi there,

I'm looking for documentation on how to build a device sending information  
to the DSP. Is there any hardware documentation available ?

More specifically I've a signal comming at 800 Kbaud on a RS422 HDLC line  
(I actually receive batch of 128 bytes every 20ms  and the clock is also  
available on my line). I would like to transform this signal into DSP  
information to process it in "real time"...

Any information welcome !
Thanks in advance,

		jean-michel


jml@cubx.fdn.gna.tfd.com
From: moij@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (Jim Chorn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Supra fax/modem...What say, owners?
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:50:21 GMT

adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) writes:

>In article <1992Apr3.185406.2271@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca>  
>jchin@wcraft.wimsey.bc.ca (Joseph Chin) writes:
>> In article <1992Apr3.172246.27874@u.washington.edu>  
>> basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David Basiji) writes:
>> > Have those people who were expecting their Supras ever get them?
>> > Do they work?  How are they on noisy lines and talking to other
>> > brands of modem?  Does the NeXT "class 2" fax driver actually 
>> > work?
I challenge anyone who has a Supra Fax modem on a NeXT to prove that
the fax works as advertised by posting how they did it, for independent
verification.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Jim De Arras <jmd@banana.handheld.com>
Subject: Re: Cool .dir.tiff/.opendir.tiff (small RTF)
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:43:35 GMT

In article <275@moene.UUCP> toon@moene.uucp (Toon Moene) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.020819.157@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> coco@ihcoco.att.com  
>(Felix A. Lugo) writes:
>> 
>> 	I don't know what you're talking about!  8-)
>> 
>> 	What I do know, however, is that a bigoted FEW want to
>> 	DICTATE what other people may or may not do in this newsgroup;
>> 	-- AND I'M SICK OF IT!  (I should have used RTF for this line).
>> 
>> 	c.s.n.MISC:  Hum, it's name sure fits where such postings
>> 		     CAN be made!
>>  
>========================================================================== 
>=
>> Felix A. Lugo
>> 
>> E-Mail: (NeXTmail preferred)			Felix_A_Lugo@ATT.COM
>> 						coco@ihcoco.att.com
>>      AT&T NeXT User Group			nug@ihcoco.att.com
>
>       ^^^^ It has been written before: NOTE WHOM WE'RE PAYING TO
>	    FOR THESE RTF/PICTURE/SOUNDS POSTS.
>
>>      HOME NeXTcube				home@ihcoco.att.com
>>  
>========================================================================== 
>=
>
>Sorry, Felix, but you're not unbiased in this respect.
>
>--
>Toon Moene (toon@moene.uucp)
>Kantershof 269, 1104 GN  Amsterdam, The Netherlands
>Tel.: + 31 20 6982029; Fax: + 31 20 6003411
>No Disclaimers; a NeXT at home protects against this occupational hazard.
>
Having been to The Netherlands, and indeed scheduled back there in a month for
meetings, I cannot imagine you would have the knowledge to comment on the US
phone system, based on the dutch PTT.  

But, to explain it, AT&T has very little to gain from RTF postings.  They may
supply some of the backbone circuits, but those are fixed cost.  The little
additional traffic RTF poses when compared to the alt.gif crowd means that any
argument about the additional RTF load requiring additional backbone circuits
to be added would be hard to prove.

That leaves what I think you were getting at, that it, dial-up time.  With
the breakup of the Bell system, AT&T gets very little, if indeed any, of the
local message unit charges.  That would be the bulk of the phone co. portion
of uucp access charges.  Of the much fewer folks that must dial long distance
to connect, even then, regional long distance is, for the most part, charged by
the regional operating companies.  Of the remain long-distance calls, yes, a
percentage will go AT&T.  How many get RTF I don't know, but you see we've
really trimmed the field.  But we also have other long-distance companies,
which tend to be cheaper for a uucp style call, so AT&T, and Felix, could
hardly care from a monetary return point of view one way or the other about
RTF.

I do, however, tend to agree with his point of view.

This message was posted, and reached the NFS backbone, using no AT&T circuits.

Jim De Arras


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: defining my own workspace
Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 20:30:46 GMT


could someone remind me on how to define my own workspace?
it is summat like  dwrite NextStep Workspace /home/lrb/bin/myworkspace.app
but i cannot remember. sigh. thought it was saved, but i cannot find it.

--
Lance R. Bailey  System/Network Manager         Robarts Research Institute
     NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca    box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
            fax: 519.663.3789                   P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
            vox: 519.663.3787 ext. 4108         London, Canada N6A 5K8
         Gaelic: Tha me leatsa ma cheannaicheas tu mi. Thoir dhomh earbsa.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: m@crito.Stanford.EDU (M Carling)
Subject: Re: NeXTcube Turbo SIMM Slots
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 00:21:47 GMT

In article <!1bHynmk6@cs.psu.edu> melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger)  
writes:
> Btw, there are 16 SIMM slots in the Cube, 8 in the NeXTstations, and 4
> in the Turbos.  I'm not convinced that going to 4 slots in the Turbos
> was necessary.

Aside from the electrical reasons which I posted previously, you may be  
interested to know that the only difference between the Turbo slab board  
and the Turbo cube board is the NeXT Bus Interface Chip and three PALs.  
That saved a lot of design time and money that could be used instead for,  
hypothetically, a high-end workstation and a color portable. That is also  
the main reason why omision of the OD circuitry saved money--not because  
of the cost of the chips.

M Carling
Director, Bay Area NeXT Group
--

Bill Clinton lied to his wife. Can his country trust him?
George Bush lied to his country. Can his wife trust him?
From: dave@prim.uucp (Dave Griffiths)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NewsGrazer crashes, GNUS doesn't
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:38:00 GMT
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.

In article <1992Apr13.015452.12324@talon.ucs.orst.edu> mcgredo@bluto.ie.orst.edu writes:
>
>NG can be annoying at times, but it's still easier to deal with than rn or  
>other text-based news utilities.  (I'll freely admit that's a personal  
>preference in order to fend off incipient flame wars.  Discussions of NG  
>tend to be about as rational as Protestants and Catholics discussing  
>religion during the Reformation.)
>

Sorry, can't resist! Why *do* people rave about NG? Is it just because
it has a NeXTStep interface? I have a choice between NG and trn, and I
use trn. Is there a rational reason for this? :-) Yes - it follows threads!
If the subject changes in NG, you lose the thread. This seems a pretty
basic shortcoming.

Dave Griffiths
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Subject: Re: MIME-capable software
Reply-To: ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu (Ernest Prabhakar)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:03:19 GMT

In article <MS-C.703140271.1103527590.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> Mark  
Crispin <mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU> writes:
> If, with InterfaceBuilder and c-client, it is too hard to write
> MIMEware for the NeXT, then maybe NeXT isn't the great development
> platform for `mission critical application' that its PR flaks claim.
> I've heard you guys rave for years now.  You can talk the talk; can
> you walk the walk?

At the moment, there isn't sufficient motivation for NeXT users to use MIME  
because NewsGrazer handles existing needs.  As soon as someone shows a  
'compelling advantage' to MIME, I'm sure things will start popping up.  That  
will probably be when 'comp.sys.sun.misc' has about as many MIME posts as  
comp.sys.next.misc has RTF posts.

How much MIME-compatible software is there commercially?  How much is  
integrated by the vendor?  Everybody's announced official support.  Has that  
finally turned into usable products?

> Better hurry.  A guy at SUN recently finished a MIME SUN mailer based
> upon c-client.  I don't know if it was for internal use only or is a
> new product.

Interesting.  SUN has been claiming a multi-media mail system for Solaris 2.0.   
Will it be based on MIME?  Jobs said [in last month's MicroTimes] that NeXT had  
offerred to work with Sun on a 'common ground' for multi-media mail.  

Mark, if you really want to kill NewsGrazer, write something that is better,  
can read both RTF and MIME, but *only* posts in MIME format.
If that's not what you want, why does it bother you so much that people are  
content with 'inferior, non-standard' technology?

- Ernie P.

--
Ernest N. Prabhakar                  Caltech High Energy Physics
Member, League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu)
CaJUN President        NeXTMail:ernest@pundit.cithep.caltech.edu
"...and ourselves, your servants for Jesus sake." - II Cor 5:13a
#import <std/disclaimer.h>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: johnsond@newshub.sdsu.edu (Dwayne Johnson)
Subject: Hostname woes
Organization: San Diego State University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:51:33 GMT

I changed the name of my Nextstation and now I can't get the blasted thing
to boot without getting the "server not found" message.  I've found nothing
that tells me how to fix this...HELP!


-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dwayne Johnson                           | Hold on to the Great Image
Internet:   johnsond@sciences.sdsu.edu   | and the world will come to you.
            johnsond@nextnet.csus.edu    |     -- Lao Tzu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: smb3u@squeeg.psyc.virginia.edu (Steven M. Boker)
Subject: Re: DOS/NeXT question
Keywords: DOS, control characters
Organization: University of Virginia, Department of Psychology
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:57:33 GMT

In article <rb28pINNgr9@cs.utexas.edu> kelsen@cs.utexas.edu (Pierre Kelsen) writes:
>I recently did some word processing on a DOS machine (using a word processing
>software and exporting to ASCII) and transferred the files to my NeXT machine.
>I noticed that there were lots of '^M' control characters interspersed with the
>text (I suspect it has to do with the translation of new line characters). 
>Although these extra characters do not print I would like to get rid of them
>

There is a program on the archives at sonata called "flip".  This useful
utility will do _exactly_ what you want, and in a smarter fashion than
tr.  There is source in the flip.tar file which can also be compiled on
an MSDOS machine.  That way you can perform your translations in both
directions on either machine.

This software works well.  A must for every heterogeneous NeXT.

Steve

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From: cnh5730@maraba.tamu.edu (Charles Herrick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: The Varun Script -=Here it is=- (was: backing up to OD
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:15:18 GMT

In article <Apr.3.11.40.59.1992.26375@remus.rutgers.edu>  
$ trott@remus.rutgers.edu (Rich Trott) writes:
$ > A while back someone posted a recipe to backup his entire
$ > drive to  a single compressed tarfile on his Optical
$ > Drive.  does anyone still have that recipe? 

Here it is, and of course it's another sparkling gem from the  
Workspace of none other than Varun Mitroo!! 

BEGIN--CUT HERE--
In comp.sys.next.misc article  
<1992Jan27.163306.27612@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  
mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo) wrote:
> as backup media and convenience goes,
> it's hard to do better than optical.  Here's the script I run as  
root every
> couple of weeks for backups:
>
>   cd /
>   tar cvf - LocalLibrary | compress > /$1/LocalLibrary.tar.Z
>   tar cvf - LocalApps | compress > /$1/LocalApps.tar.Z
>   tar cvf - Users | compress > /$1/Users.tar.Z
>   cd /usr
>   tar cvf - local | compress > /$1/usr_local.tar.Z
>
> It takes a couple of hours an creates a complete backup of my cube  
nicely
> on one optical disk.

END--CUT HERE--
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: melling@cs.psu.edu (Michael D Mellinger)
Subject: Re: Macs running NeXT Step?
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:22:12 GMT


In article <1992Apr17.052745.25088@athena.mit.edu> jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) writes:


   Given that after the PC the Mac must have one of the largest shares
   of the market.  is NeXTs move likely to be to create a version of
   NeXT Step that runs on the Mac?

   Any one want to comment on how easy/dificult this would be to
   impliment?

NeXTstep will never run on 99.98% of the PCs already in existance nor
will on anything less than a Mac Quadra.  The hardware requirements
for NeXTstep are just too great.

-Mike