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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: EMERGENCY
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:44:38 GMT

I'm worried too.  Does anyone know Patrick's last name, or have any contact
number for his family?  If they'd gone straight back to Chciago, their
Chicago friends would know -- it doesn't take a week to drive from
NY-Chicago, no matter how far the <cultural> distance is!  

My last message from tushar (post-judith-visit, pre-NY)) implied that he'd
write to me again when he had access.  Actually, he was gloating a bit that
*he'd* be enjoying NY whilst I sweated in Fla, and I thought he'd jump into
the Net to rub it in :-)

If something really dreadful has happened, the U Chicago number might be
the only id/emergency number the authorities might find on Tushar's person:
has anyone actually contacted the offical U Chicago adminsitration, or the
math dept there?  If they haven't been notified of any catastrophe, it may
well be comforting to the rest of us (at least for a while).  yes, this is
how I calm myself when my husband or kids are late/missing/incommunicado --
if anything *awful* happened, the police would have called me...

--Anxious Jewish Mamma



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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:21:26 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Music Junkie
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> friends, real friends. Adam has been that for me. He's been a confidante, an
> ally, a shrink with an IP address. Not being able to finger @drew.drew.edu any

You forgot to mention that you also shared a bedroom. :-)

Your tribute to Adam is beautiful and much deserved.  I'm convinced that
strange psychic forces are involved and that it's his body only that's
twenty years old.  Adam's wisdom, knowledge, and good sense go far beyond
anything that can be acquired in such a short life.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: maya@carina.unm.edu ()
Subject: Re: Gender
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:14:56 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

>>-maya (whose idea of a positive male role model includes Nick Charles,
>
>Who's this? The CNN sportscaster?

	The genteel, witty drunk-of-a-detective from the Thin Man movies.

>-abh

- maya
 
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From:         Rashmi Murthy <rashmi@CBIS.ECE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: EMERGENCY
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> Hi. This is Venkatesh Sreekantan - Tushar Samant's friend in
> Philadelphia. Tushar was supposed to arrive at Philadelphia on Saturday
> last - but has not shown up as of today.

I'm in the same boat.  Last heard from him (email) on Wednesday
saying he'd call on Saturday to confirm his plans.  He wasn't too
sure of net.access while in NY, so am not surprised that he hasn't
logged in.  I think they are staying with friends of Patrick, but
don't have a contact number in NY.
Anyone else hear from him?

rashmi
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gender

15-AUG-1992 04:23:54.67

>It occurs to me that the analogy is even better than I thought at first,
>since it also includes the fact that we can *argue* about whether man/woman
>and person/black denote coequal groups or not.  That was also probably part
>of mka's intent -- good shot, I apologize for being a tad slow on the
>uptake..

--bayla

Thanks for the support, Bayla.  It was nice to show up today to
find that waiting for me.  Really.

-Mka
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Subject:      RE: gonadological oppression

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
-abh
bated breath and all
------------------------------------------------------------------------
The point --abh is that such negative stereotypical images created by
ideologues to justify their <fear><hate><outrage><you-name-it> relative
to another group, whether it be whites, males, straits, neo-Nazi punks
etc., *presumes* a knowledge, understanding of that group you have
previously posited to be impossible without being a member.  You are
thus caught in your own logical trap.   The whole concept is inane
claptrap that puts the lie to any kind of non-idoisyncratic knowledge
of others.  Its baloney.

Don't bate so long you turn blue.

JAG
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:36:48 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Gender

>I don't see how language can be separated from users of language.

I wish I could jump up and down on the screen in front of you
waving, smiling, saying "YES, THAT'S EXACTLY MY DUMB-HEADED, HAM-
HANDED POINT."  It was Carol who said that sexism is embedded in
the language.  All *I'm* saying is that it ain't in the language,
it's in some people's heads. The end. Finis.  I master the
obvious again.
     But the important consequence is that it is *not* an attack
on the equality of all people to use he/him generically unless a
whole bunch of folk for one reason or another get sufficiently
exercised over it.

>> But was what I was saying reactionary?  What about what I said
>> about personhood and blacks--*is* it racist to use person in
>> connection with blacks because blacks have not always been
>> included in the meaning of person?
>
>That is absurd.  What would the parallel term be for blacks?
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

I really don't mean to be obtuse--but parallel to what?  I don't
think it's absurd at all.  I see the irony, as Carol calls it, in
the use of the word "person" in the 14th amendment just as
palpably as some seem to be seeing an irony in the use of he/him
for everybody.  Looks like a match to me.

-Mka
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Back on net
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              12 Aug 1992 12:53:26 U from <harwell@SMTPGATE.TECHRSCS.PANAM.EDU>

On Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:53:26 U Anne said:
>If this message reaches the list, then our LAN server is back online.
>
>Thanks.
>
   Never made it....wonder what happened to Anne's LAN server NOW???

dan
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Doublings
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>
> don't mind me I'm rambling and making self-referential postings that only mean
> anything to 0.2% of the list anyway

Ramble on, Anne, this is the week for it. School is starting and the most
intense question I received all day was "How do you stand on chewing gum?"
I said I preferred not to stand on it at all.  Mummble mumble mumble.....
Doris
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:51:44 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      the ugly american syndrome.
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When i was travelling in Australia and New Zealand i was
always taken as a Canadian, because i was polite and had
a funny accent.  No one believed i was american until
i showed my passport. After being there for a few
weeks, i eventually had adapted to the speech so well
people actually thought i was australian.

i could definately pick out americans. they were loud,
obnoxious and not the least bit gracious.  unfortunately,
americans usually spotted me as one of their own, and would
inevitable invite me for pizza and a bud-light.

I did show my american bad manners twice however. Once when
confronted with Vegimite, and once when i could find Lamb as
the only meat product on an entire menu in New Zealand.

Jenna who turned in the paper work this afternoon to GO BACK TO SCHOOL.
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: List wars
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> 8/20/92 @ 14:00 Tim Johnson <PH408014@BROWNVM.BITNET> writes on
> LITERARY@UCF1VM:
> >I'm certainly willing to sacrifice bazillions of
> >posts of chatter (like is found on Words-L) for
> >an intermittent list filled with substance.  But

Who is Tim Johnson?  Do we know him?  How does he know us?  He is no
doubt a substantial person.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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>(Pardon my bragging, but I've so little academic accomplishment that when I
>get a chance... it's been six years, and I'm about to sell my brain for
>scrap.)

Bragging pardoned by another without much academic accomplishment to
show for keeping his ass in a chair while his wife went out and
worked.  They should have given _Ann_ the damned diploma.  She got to
watch my "defense," however: "Hey, honey, this is what it was all
for!" [NOT!]

It took me years to recover my ability to write after writing what a
friend of mine who "did" his Ph.D. at the University of Denver called
a "disserfuckingtation."

I suppose it's a rite of passage for would-be academicians: like those
African tribes that circumcise boys after they reach puberty....

Ken
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: List wars
              20 Aug 1992 15:10:40 EST from <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>

On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:10:40 EST Entropy Warrior said:
>>I know we can; we have that power.  But isn't the real strength having
>>the power and choosing not to use it?
>
>Sounds like an apology for voter apathy.

No, it's Buddhist.
>
>-Mka

Evelyn
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      How those Republicans *do* measure up.
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	Has anyone else noticed that Barbara Bush's face is the exact
same width as Marilyn Quayle's hips?

	What could this mean????

Rita
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK%IUBACS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Apocalocyntosis

Looks like the net turned into a pumpkin at midnight

Bon nuit, ennui.

Mka
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Subject:      Re: Geekefaction

>offends no one.  Not possible on this list, actually, since Le
>Pig wakes up offended.

>Attention: this is a subject on which Entropy has no empirical evidence.

>-abh

Victim again of inductive fallusy

-Mka
The entropy storm continues
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Taking Names and Kicking Butts

*** Resending note of 08/13/92 08:45


>WELCOME BACK, DON!!  Now what's everybody drinking?  This might bring some
>  --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
Thank you Natalie!
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 10:33:00 EST
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Subject:      Desire

>Despite the very civilized welcome and introduction I am confused. What kind of
> a BB is this

What kind would you like it to be?

-Mka
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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Regional Usages
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> Posted on 16 Aug 1992 at 08:36:43 by Nancy Harwood
> I remember hearing people in East Texas saying "they're looking for a
> baby" or "she's looking for a baby in August." (Maybe they thought it

This made me laugh--but then I started wondering what people say
when they are trying to get pregnant?  Surely that's when you are
actually *looking*?

Karen
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From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject: Re: Next Year's Event
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You all forgot about Ferndale California.

gee. i'm out sick for two weeks and y'all forget
about me.


sulking.

jcs
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 10:54:54 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Gender

You may not be able to tell from looking at "wund" that it is feminine--
but you could know that it is feminine in the same way that you
know that 2+2=4 without knowing anything about what 2 or 4 mean
--other than of course that 2+2=4 (that is "meaning" of a sort).

Which only reminds me that base eight is really the same as base ten--
if you're missing two fingers

-Mk
Coffee is the anti-entropy elixir--or maybe it only speeds it up--
which we shall learn anon.
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:24:00 PST
From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Cheyenne's home

>>"Cheyenne's home" is the clue for (I think) 71 down of Sunday's NYT's
>>Crossword.
>>Seven letters.  What the heck is it?
>>
>   Wyoming.
>
>dan who lives next door

My mistake.  It's five letters with no Xs or Os.  It is "tepee".

Why no Xs or Os?  There are certain squares marked with a slash through them.
Those squares had to be either X or O. But, if down, for instance was X, that
did not mean necessarily that across had to be X.

I stayed up kind of late (for me) Sunday night working on that puzzle so Monday
afternoon my recall was not that great.  And no, I do not do them in pen.

Bah,

Chris
From: gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL (Graham Toal)
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	was the last time anybody checked).  Therefore (syllogism alert! I
	once knew someone who named his floppies after all the valid syllogisms
	-- barbara, celarant, whatever) Geeks can be female.

Where did silly jisms come into this?  Or female Greeks?  You're Tushar!
Admit it!

G
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Subject:      Is there a term for it?

I think Johnny Carson made it popular but certainly it existed before him. It's
the word play that he does during his movie segment:

Starring Richard Little, Little John, John Simon, Simon and Schuster...

That sort of thing.  Is there a term in English (or any other language for that
matter) for this?

Chris
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From:         s mandell <pwiebe@ECST.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject:      Taking names and Kicking Butts
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=> Bartender, a round of whatever to each person in the room.  Drinks on me.

=WELCOME BACK, DON!!  Now what's everybody drinking?  This might bring some
=interesting revelations here at 7:35 a.m. (CDT).  You're safe, Judith and
=Torkel; 2:35 p.m. is a more respectable time for drinking anything you want
=to drink.  Graham's probably ok also, considering the very weird concepts
=of appropriate drinking times in England.  Akio, of course, is quite safe.
=It's what -- 10:35 p.m. there?
=   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)


So what am I, chopped liver?  It was 2:35 here as well.

And what's so weird about Graham having a drink at 1:35?  Though
I have to admit the British do have odd concepts of appropriate drinking
times, as the pubs are closed in the afternoon, and don't open again
until dinner time.

Steph
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Subject:      Authoring/ Barf

book instead of writing it?  (Perhaps a back formation from co-
author.)  Anyway, I have no problem w/ this, but I would never
architect a building.  What's the past tense?  "Architected"????

I got roasted for Barf once upon a midnight dreary--
someone out there has a last name very close to Barf
Just thought you might like to know.

--Mka
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:26:56 -0500
From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Adventures of Giggles
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> Thanks to Dan's compiling, adventures.of.giggles is now available via
> ftp in docs/words-l/Misc.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Oh, goodie. Now that hilarious tale can be read and re-read whenever I
need a good laugh.  But I would hate for * bruther* to get a swollen head, so
let's not tell him how very much I enjoyed reading it.  Let him continue
thinking Sis is in a bad mood. Or was it someone else who was in a bad
mood? Things *are* so confusing sometimes.
Doris
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject: Re: Today's Trivia
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>a male buying a sports car signifies childishness?  Does anyone
>ever say that a female is acting childish if she buys a sportscar?


Childish, yes, <in the nicest possible way>. While we're on this feminist
thread, consider the women your age who would be <relieved> is all they were
called is "childish" if they bought a sportscar.

-abh
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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: I'm home
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It is great to hear from you, Adam, and also to know that you arrived safely.
Stay in touch.
Doris
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      The horse is dead, stop beating it already
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>Well that is *so* unnyfay that I am NROFLMGO, but that definitely will
>*not* do because I want to hear the joke about <thinking straight>.

If there was <anyone> who didn't think of a joke which played on the word
"straight" the first time that post appeared, then GT removed any possibility
with his followup, and by now I have seen about 5 total posts whining about the
damn joke, and have probably thought up about a dozen worse jokes than the one
that GT was originally going to post, besides his post itself *was* the joke,
not some exterior joke but the subrosa context (multi-tiered posting if you
hadn't clued to that by now), so quit blathering about the damn joke, there is
no joke, there was never any joke, the original post itself _was_ the joke,
and any humorous content long ago fled, vanished, evaporated, kaput, so
pbbbbbbbth.

And what was so unnatural about those two innocent swimmers worshipping the
mayan gods? Were they making the beast with two backs? How about the beast with
one back and four tails? How about the beast with six legs and two tails?
Maybe the beast that barks when you give it a milkbone? Maybe the beast that
swims like a mermaid but grunts like a crocodile?

And maybe that guard wasn't being nasty, he was just trying to make sure they
didn't drown or require <CPR>.

-abh
I'm bored, disregard this
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Subject:      RE: Doublings

>-abh
>....and major airline crashes come in threes
>
>don't mind me I'm rambling and making self-referential postings that only mean
>anything to 0.2% of the list anyway

O.2% of the list probably means just you, though I haven't
checked the size of the list recently.

-Mka
Entropy's on the rise
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:06:48 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Prostrate problems.

>     I'm far more prone to encounter problems while supine.
>
>     Carol

To err is human, to flare is supine.

-Mka
Forever misentropic
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 16:37:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Today's Trivia
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> >I want to hear the joke!  I want to hear the joke!
> >I am so upset about not hearing the joke that I just cant
> >hardly <think straight>!!!!
> 	Why did the chicken not cross the road?
>
> 	Giggles was reported heading that way in his kiddymobile, and the
> chicken didn't have a death wish!
> 	<gd&r>
>
> Ruth
> ps - will that do?
>
Well that is *so* unnyfay that I am NROFLMGO, but that definitely will
*not* do because I want to hear the joke about <thinking straight>.
Where is G, that loveable little squeeze????
--ggs (still wondering what gd&r means and suspecting that it is
either obscene or pisogynist or *both* ohmygod!)
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:40:01 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Taking Names and Kicking Butts
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Welcome back, Don...I'm glad you're with us again.
ndh
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