From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai)
Subject: Re: Bad Musicals <was: "Worst Movie Of All Time, so bad it's bad!>
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 07:28:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.202557.11566@psych.toronto.edu> paul@psych.toronto.edu (Paul Hastings) writes:
>In article <Nov.10.14.36.27.1992.21095@math.rutgers.edu> bgonzal@math.rutgers.edu (Bil Gonzalez) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov8.165508.4922@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan) writes:
>>> On the subject of Bad Music, let's talk Bad Musicals! 
>>>... 
>>> You Can't Stop The Music: Oh god, the pain, the pain. The Village People,
>>> Valerie Perrine, the immortal singing Olympic hero, Bruce Jenner!
>>> Known to the crew as "You Can't Stop the Faggots", this bombed big
>>> time...
>>
>>Secondly, I find the comment about the crew's nickname for the film
>>very hard to believe since being an Allen Carr production, directed
>>by Nancy Walker (yes, Rosie the Bounty Lady), the film was made in a
>>very gay-positive atmosphere.  Many members of the crew were in fact gay.
>>One was the late Drew Okun (Sp?) who was a very famous gay and
>>sometimes straight porno star.  Allen Carr was notorious for hiring
>>his newest "interests", and ran quite a production company.
>
>Well, you're assuming the crew would mean "CSTFaggots" in a negative
>or depreciative manner, as it sort of reads in BogusMan's post.  Not
>all gayfolk consider 'faggot' to be an insult, and used among them-
>selves (OK, ourselves, these are my own observations, after all), 
>faggot/queer/queen/girlfriend! are bandied about casually, and even
>affectionately.
>
>>BTW - your posting seems very homophobic.  Is there supposed to be
>>some correlation regarding the fact that the film was gay oriented and
>>the fact that it was a bomb?  Gays can't make good films?
>>
>The posting was kind o' snide and cutting, but I don't think you can
>really read those conclusions into it.
>
I agree. If you're going to level those kinds of accusations why don't
you also point a finger at the film itself which featured the Village
People enjoying distinctly *heterosexual* fantasy scenes! One of the
major reasons the film flopped in the US is due to the fact that it
managed to completely alienate the VP's main fans, homosexuals...
If you have to start flinging invective why don't you tar Nancy Walker
and Allen Carr with the same brush or call them cowards (which they
most certainly were) for not portraying the VP accurately.

Now why don't you put your "homophobic" gun back in your holster before
you shoot someone with it...

 
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