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From: fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: ROCK THE VOTE
Date: 23 Nov 1992 15:01:01 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
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Dear Friends,

	The vote for rec.arts.marching.drumcorps and rec.arts.marching.misc
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From: fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Adventures in Time
Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:36:09 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
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Keywords: questions, geeky, composer

Adventures in Time seems to be a peice that is well loved and often
played by drum corps.  It's been given serious treatment by Suncoast
Sound in 1985 and Blue Devils in 1991.  I know that it is performed
by Stan Kenton but I have had no luck finding a recording of
Adventures in Time anywhere.

Does anyone have a recording of Adventures in Time or even information
about recordings?  That is one piece of drumcorps music I would really
like to get ahold of.

Thanks.


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From: 9225978@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: crossmaN
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:49:27 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland

How about crossman for top 12 in 1993?????

Does anyone else think that they are simply the best up and coming new
corps?

.....Personally amongst ,me and my friends, we reckon they will have 
one of the best horn lines ever in a few years time..

....Does anyone have an address for me ?....Any crossmen out there
please e-mail me at 9225978@ul.ie....

This is probably shocking news to hear from a die-hard CADETS fan
but it is my outlook on the present state of things...


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* Greg Harte     * My year out is 1997 / baritone / contrabass                                        *
* 9225978@ul.ie  ***************************************************************
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Juicy.
From: zaidioa@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Madison music
Date: 17 Nov 1992 02:27:33 GMT
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Reply-To: zaidioa@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra.rose-hulman.edu

>>I agree.  I think that it will keep them out of the top five in 1993.  But
>>Madison seems content not to push the envelope and focus instead on bringing
>>solid drumcorps to the field.  A lot of people around me in Madison last
>>year enjoyed the Scout's show more than any other and I'm sure the Scout's
>>staff gets enough positive feedback that it doesn't feel any need to change.
>>
>>After all, they did WIN in 1988 with Malaguena.
> 
>And a highly questionable result it was, too.
> 
>Mike Hughes

agreed... let's take a straw vote and see how many people thought SCV should
have won with their Phantom of the Opera show..

I'm curious..

any volunteers? I don't have enough email space to conduct such a survey.

I still SCV was gyped and they should have won in 1988 and 1989 IMO. I was
blown away by Star's show in 1990 and I was pissed when they only got 3rd.
just my 2 cents worth..

Omar Zaidi
From: fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Info request on facets of the Cavies '92 show
Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:24:53 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcrr.harvard.edu
Keywords: questions, geeky, composer

In article <1992Nov22.213130.13715@cgrg.ohio-state.edu> flip@cgrg.ohio-state.edu (Flip Phillips) writes:
>>I have a CD with Gavorkna Fanfare on it and this is what it says about
>>Jack Stamp:


>Can you give me the 'bibliography' for that CD? (label, etc)



Here's what I remember of the top of my head.  It is by the Cincinnati
Conservatory of Music Wind Ensemble - Eugene Corporon, cond.
The album is called "In Concert" and alson includes Tcherepnin:  Statue,
Tippett:  Mosaic and several other pieces for Wind Ensemble.

See my upcoming post about a music distributor that I found.  They 
have the CD available for 14.75.




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From: C_S05161@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (*Clay Thompson Monroe)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Opinions are like....Here's mine
Date: 23 Nov 1992 22:32:06 GMT
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
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Just discovered the network.  Pretty cool.  Lots of juicy gossip!! I do have a
question to the  people who think that Madison made a mistake with their
muscial selection.  Who did you march with and when?? Did you march Scouts or
know their staff.  I marched in '91 and had a great year.  However, I always
wanted to play some of the older Scouts music.  I have a lot of recordings and
some of my favorite ones are old Scout shows.  Ask anyone who has ever marched
in the corps and they will tell you that they have always wanted to play one
song(from the past) more than any other.  Mine is "Strawberry Soup".  Even
before I marched the staff had wanted to pull out this and other songs for one
more time.  The Scouts may get slammed for playing old tunes and "regressing
DCI", but mark my words the members of the corps will be having the most fun
of any other corps on the field.  It says something about a show when you have
members from as far back as '88 and'89 returning to march because of the music.  
As for the "all-knowing" men in green shirts, my History professor put it best
when he said lots of people in this world are "OFTEN WRONG BUT NEVER IN DOUBT".
This is my age-out year and I plan on living it to the fullest.  So what if
top 5 is not in the cards this year.  I don't march with the Scouts for the
reason of winning or placing in the  top5.  This activity was ultimately founded
on the people sitting in the stands and a good crowd response beats anything
else.  Like I said before, this is only my opinion but I kind of doubt I'm
alone.  Oh, by the way, the Scouts ARE NOT playing "Remembrance" after all. 
They are arranging a new piece.  
I'm interested in getting a response to this article so someone answer if you
have time.  If any Souts alumnae ever make it up to Boone, NC  look me up.  I
live at the Alpha Tau Omega fraternity house on King Street.
Peace
From: bellm@phlox.cps.msu.edu (Matthew J Bell)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Bowl Trips
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:22:17 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University

This is my first posting so if this is all wrong, too bad.  

Who all is going to bowls?  Here at Michigan State, we're hoping for a trip to the
Holiday Bowl in San Diego (if and only if our team wins this week against
Illinois).  I know U-M is headed for Pasadena again (gag)  

You all heard that MSU drumline won again at BOA (I hope)  Of course they don't
all have big heads now or anything.  Well, before I screw this up anymore...

Let everybody know who is going where!
 
Keywords: 
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry)
Subject: Re: St.Angel and the Bird
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:24:25 GMT

bfhalls@vela.acs.oakland.edu (HALLS BRADLEY F) writes:

>In article <1992Nov13.035855.22998@hubcap.clemson.edu> rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry) writes:

>>Well, I didn't march in PR, but I *did* march in corps that competed
>>against them or stayed with them for several years.  We also had several
>>staff members that had marched PR, and they were *real* slave drivers.

>Who? Any drum staff?

The two that come to mind are Scott Taylor (who marched center snare in
1979 and 1980) and Craig Linton (who marched Troopers in 1979 and end
snare in PR in 1980.)  Both of them worked our butts off in 1981 and
1982.

>1985 was the year I left. Man, that was the best decision I ever made.

What's funny is that, being from the Midwest, I had a deep respect for
PR until I was in a corps that was really competitive with them.  Then a
lot of the things that I had heard people from Madison say really hit
home.

I really felt for PR in 1985, they seemed to have so *many* problems
that summer.

>>When did you march exactly Brad?

>1981-82... Saginaires

I have a lot of really fond memories of this corps, they were really a
nice bunch of people.  Is one of these years the Christmas show (they
played Silent Night as a closer.)

>1983-84... Phantom Regiment

What section(s)?  Maybe I can find you on the PBS broadcasts.  One of my
favorite all-time snare licks if from the 1983 1812 production.  The
only part I'm fairly sure about was a flamaque followed by a lazy seven.
It was hot.

>1985...... Blue Devils

>We must have come pretty close to meeting in '85. I think we used your
>pit equipment at the Cavaliers show after our drums burned up. :-(

We may have met at one of the Texas shows, we got through with run
throughs early and got to go down and watch BD rehearse.  (They returned
the favor the next day.)  I met several of their snares.  (It was funny
because my jacket said flugelhorn but I was talking about some pretty
absurd rudiments.)

>BTW, what's "net gurus?"

An inside joke about a consulting service I used to work for.  I guess
it's obscure enough I ought to change it.

Later,
Bob

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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Snare Technology
From: <MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 13:18:59 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

In article <01050023.i7ptm2@chinchilla.cars.com>, niel@cars.com (Niel Bornstein)
says:
>
>In article <1992Nov6.020651.16305@cgrg.ohio-state.edu> (alt.drumcorps),
>flip@cgrg.ohio-state.edu (Flip Phillips) writes:
>>what is state of the art these days? i notice that premier and pearl are
>>becoming more prevalant, and my old standbys ludwig and slingerland, have
>>disappeard...
>
>For a while, I think, Spirit was the only top 12 corps playing Ludwig.
>Thus, even though they were not that great at the time, they got all
>sorts of advertising.  They eventually went over to Yamaha, though (I
>think).
>
 
No...they are still marching Ludwigs.
 
-Mike Hughes
 
 
 
>Niel
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From: matthews@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Thomas W. Matthews)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: When did you practice
Date: 14 Nov 92 19:39:01 GMT
Organization: Division of Electrical Engineering and Computer Science, UC Davis

I think that the Freelancers practice 10 AM to 10 PM during the summer.
At first, I wondered why they would waste so much cool daylight
(from sunrise to 10 AM) and practice in the heat.  Later, I
reasoned that since the corps has to compete late at night,
the practice schedule was chosen to keep the marcher's
"body clocks" on regular time.

I just read a posting where someone mentioned practicing rather
early in the day.  

What experiences have others had, and do you think I'm right about 
the reason for not starting early in the day?

A related question:  Did anyone ever burn their lips on a mouthpiece
that was left sitting in the sun?

Tom Matthews
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: SFINE00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Fineman, Stephen Elliot)
Subject: Crossmen audition camp
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:43:34 GMT

To anyone looking to join a great (and improving yearly) corps:
 
The Crossmen will be holding their first camp of the season Thanksgiving week-
end at Shafer Middle School in Bensalem, PA.  The camp begins Saturday the 28th
at 9 am and ends Sunday at 4 pm.  For more information, call (609) 482-7508
 
That's the official part.  I don't know anything about Shafer Middle School,
but I think it's adjacent to Bensalem High School, where we stayed for every-
days last year.  The facilities were nice and the fields were good too.  It'll
be much nicer than the abandoned catering hall we practiced at last year.  The
corps should be great, with very few members of the horn line aging out and the
drums continuing their program of excellence (I know next to nothing about
guard)  But we invaded the top six last year and look to follow that up with an
even better show.  I don't know the program for 1993 (Songs for Comet Kohoutek?
:), but it will probably be in the new age idiom.  I'd love to meet any net
people, so look for me in the soprano line.  I'll probably be wearing something
that says Rice on it (most likely an old dingy hat that I wore through tour
last year.                                 _ _ _
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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: bfhalls@vela.acs.oakland.edu (HALLS BRADLEY F)
Subject: Re: Snares on top, pipebands (was Re: Snare Technology)
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 04:58:21 GMT

In article <92323.134630ERB107@psuvm.psu.edu> Elizabeth R. Bain <ERB107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Scottish festival?  Where???  I'm from the area myself, and I hadn't heard
>of one in Canada until jsut now.  I know there is a huge fest in Alma each
>year (although I've never attended).

This one is in Furgus, Ontario, CA. and is held every summer, I believe.
Furgus is about an hour northwest of Toronto. There are a lot of Scots
in the area, and just about every town up there has a pipe band. They have
a great field show and a lot of other activities that run for several days.

--Brad.
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From: dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Boston Crusaders Open House & staff info
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:50:31 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

owens@cyclops.cambridge.ibm.com writes:

>In article <1eb1qrINNqs5@early-bird.think.com>, fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
>|> Thanks for the Crusaders info,  can you remind us what they are planning
>|> on playing for 1993?
>|> 
>|> Just curious -- and I want it for the FAQ.
>|> 

>Sheherazade and Russian Easter Overture by Rimsky-Korsakov

>A long way from Billy Jean by Micheal Jackson, Smooth Operator 
>by Sade, and Axel-F no?  :)

Well to defend Boston from '86 at least it was an attempt to bring
a different type of music to the field (Sade).

How many corps and how many times have we heard Russian
Easter Overture?  

I personally felt that Boston left me flat last year because
that number had been played so many times over the years from
the Kilties (early 70's) through SCV '86 - '87.

The only highlight of Boston last year IMHO was the drum line.

I have not liked Boston's show since '90.  That Rocky show, UGH!!
Maybe if it were 1977 when 27 and BD  played it but not 1991.

Dave, just my opinion, not meant to insult you, I know you are
on the staff!


Ken
From: dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Madison music
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:56:41 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

zaidioa@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:

>>>I agree.  I think that it will keep them out of the top five in 1993.  But
>>>Madison seems content not to push the envelope and focus instead on bringing
>>>solid drumcorps to the field.  A lot of people around me in Madison last
>>>year enjoyed the Scout's show more than any other and I'm sure the Scout's
>>>staff gets enough positive feedback that it doesn't feel any need to change.
>>>
>>>After all, they did WIN in 1988 with Malaguena.
>> 
>>And a highly questionable result it was, too.
>> 
>>Mike Hughes

>agreed... let's take a straw vote and see how many people thought SCV should
>have won with their Phantom of the Opera show..

>I'm curious..

No, I believe that the Blue Devils should have won in 1988!

>I still SCV was gyped and they should have won in 1988 and 1989 IMO. I was
>blown away by Star's show in 1990 and I was pissed when they only got 3rd.
>just my 2 cents worth..

Just my cents worth.  SCV should have won in 1989...
                     
                      Star should have won in 1990...
From: R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re:  Is there a "Storm" brewing?
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:03:46 GMT
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <92309.131617ERB107@psuvm.psu.edu>, Elizabeth R. Bain
<ERB107@psuvm.psu.edu> wrote (Re: Is "Storm" still brewing?): 
 
|>A few years ago, i was helping to host the state marching band competition in
|>Michigan.  I remember that there were people there who were recruiting (or
|>whatever) from various corps, and there were flyers hanging for a new corps
|>that was planning to form either last year or the year before.  The flyers
|>said soemthing like "There's a STORM brewing in south eastern Michigan".
|>Does anyone know what happened with that corps?  Did it ever form?  If so,
|>how is it doing?
 
To which bfhalls@vela.acs.oakland.edu (HALLS BRADLEY F) responded 
in article <1992Nov5.033347.9477@vela.acs.oakland.edu> (Re: Parades,
again!!!):
 
|>As for the corps in Southeastern MI, I don't know what they are called, 
|>but I think they are from Grosse Pointe, and had a rough first year with
|>about a dozen or so members. Anyone else from MI know about these guys?
 
Well, there has been no "Storm" brewing in SE Michigan as far as I
know.  The only new corps I've seen in this area was the 12th Command,
which performed in exhibition at the Wyandotte show last June.
They were from Taylor, not Grosse Pointe (anyone from Michigan knows
those to be as dissimilar a pair of communities as possible!).  12th 
Command had about 12-15 horns.  I missed their performance (those of
you who read my posting on it know why), so I can't comment on their
show (I just counted the horns during retreat).  I hope they return
next year.
 
Vince
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry)
Subject: Re: Boston Crusaders Open House & staff info
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:58:02 GMT

dowzycki@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Ken Dowzycki) writes:

>Well to defend Boston from '86 at least it was an attempt to bring
>a different type of music to the field (Sade).

Definitely.  I'm not sure it was a good direction for the BAC, but it
*was* different.

>How many corps and how many times have we heard Russian
>Easter Overture?  

The last I remember was Phantom in 1980.  It was somewhat popular in the
mid-70's.  But I don't feel this is a piece that has been over-played.

>The only highlight of Boston last year IMHO was the drum line.

Agreed.

Later,
Bob

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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Trivia
From: <MHUGHES@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 11:29:04 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

In article <1992Nov16.041603.7388@hubcap.clemson.edu>,
rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry) says:
>
>fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath) writes:
>
>
>>9.  Symphonic Metamorphosis
>
>Sky Ryders - 1989.  No idea who wrote it though.
 
Paul Hindemith was the composer.
 
-Mike Hughes