From: gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis)
Subject: Re: Oh dear, I've pissed off Galen (Re: I'm a bit pissed...)
Organization: University of Virginia Health Sciences Center
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:41:29 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.025415.8210@wuecl.wustl.edu> dgp@atlas.wustl.edu (Don Porter) writes:
}<1992Jul24.011954.16225@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> (Galen J. Hekhuis) writes:
}> Mr. Porter (Don Porter -- if I say the name enough, will he respond?) 

}Actually, if you simply wait long enough I will respond.  You've
}been around t.a. as long as I have, Galen.  You know I can sometimes
}take weeks to respond.  Especially when someone else has already
}posted information separately confirming what I've said.

It saddens me a bit to involve Mr. Porter in this exchange.  I have found
him to be one of the more reasonable people in this group.  However, 
Mr. Porter suggests that someone else has already posted information 
separately confirming what he has said, which I might remind him is that
"Abortion stops a beating heart."  He called that a "simple fact."
It is not.  It is not true that abortion stops a beating heart, nor
is the existance of a heart a necessary condition for abortion.  In 
fact, it is never (to be fair, in the sources I looked at) mentioned at
all much less as a condition of abortion.

}> Asserting that "abortion stops a beating heart" is rather like saying 
}> that "airplane crashes kill people."  Sure, some crashes kill people, 
}> others every passenger and the pilot walk away from (they are called 
}> landings).

}Uhhh, yeah.  You sure do have one humdinger of a dictionary there,
}don't you Galen?  

Several of them.  I am not a lexicographer or an M.D.  I merely fix computers
for folks who are doctors and do the word processing for them.  As I have
access to their offices, I sometimes look in their dictionaries.  

}I suppose you would see nothing wrong with my
}telling you that my parents were in six plane crashes during
}their recent vacation.  Should I call up my brothers and tell
}them that?  Or do you think they just might misunderstand?

No, I don't see anything wrong in telling me that, in fact, you did.  I,
myself, am a pilot (albeit a rather poor one, but a pilot nonetheless).  
I don't know what your brothers have to do with this, or their supposed
misunderstanding, although I'll include that my own brother is a pilot too.
It seems the thing to do to bring brothers into the picture.

}> Mr. Clausen -- Mr. Porter -- have you anything to say?  Or you hoping this 
}> subject will go away and die?

}And I thought I was just going to scan t.a. and go home...  Looks
}like I've got one more followup before I go home.  Stand by.

Standing.  Oh, and if you can prove that your dictionary can beat up
my dictionary (actually I checked several) then you can rest assured that
I will humbly appoligize.

}Oh, and BTW...

}> It sure seems to me that the people who would legislate against (in this 
}> case) abortion don't know what the hell they are talking about.

}Do you have me confused with someone else?  When have I proposed
}legislating against abortion?  

I didn't state at all that you proposed legislating against abortion.  I
stated that those who do don't seem to know what they are talking about.
That's a bit different than stating that those who don't know what they
are talking about propose legislation against abortion.  Shoot, a lot of
people who don't know what they are talking about don't propose any
legislation.  Some of them still feel free to assert that things like 
"Abortion stops a beating heart" constitute a "simple fact."


--
       hang gliding mailing list: hang-gliding-request@virginia.edu 
     Galen Hekhuis  UVa Health Sci Ctr (804)982-1646 gjh@virginia.edu
  chinaware from China, indiaware from India, and underwear from down under
Newsgroups: talk.abortion