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From: whitesel@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Daniel Whitesell)
Subject: Re: A Basic Question
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:26:36 GMT

In article <cf3Ovki00WB=MB1I1W@andrew.cmu.edu> Raymond Craig Feeck <rf1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Concerning the naming of basketball teams, there appear to be three

	*stuff deleted*

>No clue
>Indiana Pacers
>New York Knickerbockers ( I used to know this)
>Sacramento Kings (formerly Kansas City)

Originaly Cincinnatti Royals,  Cincy often refered to as The Queen City.

>
>Craig Feeck

whitesel@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dan Whitesell)
Go Warriors!!!
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From: beegle@ftp.phy.uab.edu (Earthbound)
Subject: Re: Shaq should have been on the Olympic Team...
Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:22:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.110142.10354@abo.fi> MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
>I guess Shaquille O'Neal has every reason to be pissed off by USA Basketball's
>decision to give Christian Laettner the 12th spot on the Olympic Team. He's
>by far been the most impressive rookie this season.
>---
>Even Charles Barkley would be excused for thinking that there was racism
>involved. Guess it was "cute" to put "one of the world's 50 most beautiful
>people" [Laettner according to PEOPLE(?) Magazine] on the team. Someone
>ordinary Americans could relate to among all the multimillionaires and
>super egos. Shaq was the first player chosen in the draft and thus deserved to
>go to the Olympics.
>
>MARCU$

Not to question a person when they cry racism, but wasn't the 12th man 
on the olympic team going to go to the college player of the year?
I wanted to see shack as much as the rest of the world, but unfortuanatly
Laettner was the player of the year, and kind of deserved it.

-- 
Luke

	"I don't feel so good."	
				Last words of Luther Burbank
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From: vince@paradyne.com (Vince Ciletti)
Subject: Re: A Basic Question
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:56:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.061358.9312@tamsun.tamu.edu> narasi@cs.tamu.edu (Narasimhan) writes:
>
>
>Hi 
>I would like to know how they name the teams, like why Jazz for Utah,
>Rockets for Houston, Lakers for LA and so on. 
>
>I subscribed to this net very recently. I am sorry if this question 
>has come up before
>thanks
>
1- The Jazz were originally in New Orleans (famous for their jazz music).

2- The Lakers came from Minnesota (I believe their state slogan is the "land
of 10,000 lakes)

3- I believe the Rockets franchise started in Houston, so I can only speculate
that they got their name because of the Johnson Space Center there?

Vince

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From: sikorski@news.miami.edu (Richard Sikorski)
Subject: Scores and Standings 22nov  -- Need new reporter
Organization: R.S.M.A.S.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 22:46:32 GMT

I cant keep posting these, sorry.  We need someone new to post results
and standings, preferably someone who's a more accurate typist than me ;-)
Dare we hope for a west-coast-er or someone with access to
clari.sports,backetball who'll get all the late scores? Please!

Here's two night's scores.
Get yourself nba.c (recently posted here) for these schedules.
When I post the occasional Standings, it's from UPI.
Typos are included free of charge!
(Aren't these <CTRL>-L page-returns neat/annoying?)


Fri 20nov Golden State at Charlotte    (7:30 pm)  110-117 (OT)
          Utah         at Indiana      (7:30 pm)   97- 95
          Washington   at Minnesota    (8:00 pm)  108-100
          Miami        at Philadelphia (7:30 pm)  128-129 (3OT)
   (TNT)  Portland     at Sacramento   (8:00 pm)  104- 99
   (TNT)  Chicago      at LA Lakers    (10:30 pm) 120-118 (OT)



Sat 21nov Cleveland    at Dallas       (8:30 pm)  119-108
  (WTBS)  Boston       at Atlanta      (7:30 pm)  107-116
          Minnesota    at Denver       (9:00 pm)  118-131
          San Antonio  at Houston      (8:30 pm)  100-103
          Phoenix      at LA Clippers  (10:30 pm) 105-111
          Charlotte    at Miami        (7:30 pm)  123-111
          Indiana      at Milwaukee    (9:00 pm)   95-105
  (WWOR)  Philadelphia at New Jersey   (7:30 pm)  104- 95
          Orlando      at New York     (8:30 pm)   77- 92
          Detroit      at Seattle      (10:00 pm) 101-138
          Utah         at Washington   (7:30 pm)  109-126



Sun 22nov Denver       at LA Lakers    (10:30 pm) 
          Golden State at New Jersey   (7:00 pm) 
   (WGN)  Chicago      at Phoenix      (9:00 pm) 
          Detroit      at Portland     (10:00 pm) 


Mon 23nov Seattle      at Sacramento   (10:30 pm) 
  (WTBS)  Atlanta      at Boston       (7:30 pm) (in Hartford)


Tue 24nov Philadelphia at Charlotte    (7:30 pm) 
          Milwaukee    at Cleveland    (7:30 pm) 
          Chicago      at Golden State (10:30 pm) 
          LA Clippers  at Houston      (8:30 pm) 
          Miami        at Indiana      (7:30 pm) 
          Washington   at New York     (7:30 pm) 
   (TNT)  San Antonio  at Portland     (8:00 pm) 
          New Jersey   at Seattle      (10:00 pm) 


-- 
 Richard Sikorski - Marine & Atmospheric Chemistry, U. Miami, FL
 Internet: r.sikorski@rsmas.miami.edu        
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From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Subject: Re: ANDREW GAZE!!!
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:14:31 GMT

In article <BxvD2t.44p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange) writes:
>
>>I just saw Aussie ANDREW GAZE!!! play last knight against the so-called
>	I'm sorry, but UCLA is a good team, but I would hardly consider
>>He made shots that even Michael Jordon wouldn't dare to take!  This PROOFS
>>THAT HE AND LUC L0NGLEY WOULD HAVE WHOOPED THE DREAM TEAM!!!
>
>	Umm... yeah, right.
>
>	Jazzy J

  oh...did trent just hook jazzy??  you cant even make a spoof of
the crazy aussie-GAZE posts anymore without a bite.

- nate
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From: bonvicin@vxcrna.cern.ch
Subject: Re: Warriors draft
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 12:04:06 GMT

Ok, so I see I spoke about the Warriors drafting without knowledge of
some details ( Jazzy or Terry, could you post Kemp's pre-NBA career?).
The pick given to Seattle for Lister became Kemp, incidentally.
Of course hindsight is 20/20, but the main point of the thread
was a possible GSW dinasty. I meant that without a successful gamble
on a big man, GSW will go nowhere.

Also, I was not knocking on Nelson, who is one of
the best five coaches in the NBA, IMHO. Besides the drafts of small men
I had mentioned in my first post, I should add Richmond, picked 5th
and ROY. However, GS has had a big man problem for maybe six or seven
years now. During that time, Sampson was acquired, T. Frank was drafted,
Hill was drafted with (I believe) the 11th pick, Vandiver 
was drafted, and some big men were passed up. True, pickings were slim
when GS was in the cellar, and now that is good again we had the draft
of the century. When exactly Nellie became the boss? Was he responsible
for the Frank draft and for the Sampson trade?

Other posters pointed that GS is good enough not to draft high for several
years. In seven years GS has failed to draft a single truly solid big man,
the trades were disastrous (OK, Lister was pure bad luck),
and now they are out of the picture for several years.
Other posters have also added that now GS must gamble FOR A CENTER.
The Richmond trade was certainly a gamble, a ROY (and a perennial All-Star,
if the 2 position was not so stacked with talent at this time) for an unknown. 
Since chemistry is important, and Richmond used to be a fine person
when I lived in the Bay Area, it looked like a gamble in that sense too.
Of course it worked - but GS already had a SF, so it was a gamble in the
wrong direction. Kemp was a successful gamble. The main point of my previous
post is true: no gamble, no dinasty. Mullin and others (this is no hindsight)
should have been on the trading block last summer. Teams like 
Charlotte or Orlando could be lucky to find some good 1-2-3 above the
20th pick, and start a dinasty. With the exception of Kemp, I can't
remember a good 4-5 picked beyond 10th. 

G. Bonvicini

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From: jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (3)
Subject: Re: PORTLAND TRAILBLAZERS WILL GO 82-0 AND WIN THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:56:59 GMT

mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:



>NUF SAID.

brahhahaahhaahahahahahaa!!!

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Subject: Re: A Basic Question
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:55:47 MST
 <1992Nov20.222211.21075@hpcvusn.cv.hp.com> <1992Nov20.224544.29337@cheshire.oxy.edu> <By39yH.Fvz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
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Organization: University of Arizona
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In article <By39yH.Fvz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, pa56680@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (P. Ialamanna) writes: 
> The nickname that I really would like explained is(are?) the Clippers.
> Which marketing genius came up with this one?

A "clipper" is a well-known trading ship.  Seeing how the Clippers were
once residents of San Diego, home of a fine harbor, the name makes sense.  

BTW, the franchise was originally from Buffalo, and was called the 
Buffalo Braves before moving to SD in 1978.  And no, they didn't change
the name because of pressure from Native American groups....

> Also, who actually picks the name? The team owner or the league
> office or the fans?

The team owner has full responsibility for picking it, but 
sometimes he will run a "pick-the-team-name" contest to encourage
fan participation.  The league office would step in if, say, the
Louisiana franchise decided to call itself the "Klansmen" and planned
to sign only white players.
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
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From: trump@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael Jason Lewis)
Subject: Re: Questions
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 01:26:57 GMT

In article <By6wnM.Mvv@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>hh15@ellis.uchicago.edu (he  huang) writes:
>
>>1) Has any player in the NBA history EVER had a quadruple double?  I
>>mean double digits in any four of the following categories: points,
>>rebounds, steals, assists, blocks (and maybe turnover? :) 
>
>	This has occurred, I believe, 3 times.  Once back in the 70's
>	I believe (Nate Thurmond?), and twice in the last couple of years.
>	Alvin Robertson accomplished this feat, getting double figures
>	in points, rebounds, assists, and steals (this was when he was on
>	the Spurs).  Hakeem Olajuwon also accomplished this, in points
>	rebounds, assists, and blocks.  In fact, in that same season, he
>	almost did it twice!  After accomplishing it the 1st time, the
>	statmeisters reviewed the tapes, and removed one of his assists.
>	However, he went on to finally accomplish the feat later in the
>	season.

From this season's Street and Smith's--

	One feat that has never been accomplished in NBA history is a
	quadruble-double of points-rebounds-assists-steals (although
	there have been several points-rebounts-assists-blocks quadruple
	doubles).  Boston's Larry Bird came the closest during a game
	against Utah in 1985 when he had 32 points, 12 rebounds, 10
	assists, and nine steals.  It's likely Bird could have made quad
	history since he had those totals by the middle of the third
	quarter, when coach K.C. Jones took him out of the game...

Note 1:  This seems to be in direct contradiction to what is above.  However, I
tend to trust Jazzy over S&S who often seem to have their collective heads up 
their collective...well, you know.

Note 2:  The conclusion of the story (since I was too lazy to type it all in) 
is that K.C. offered to let him go back in, but Bird declined.

There you go.

- Mike Lewis
trump@leland.stanford.edu
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From: grubin@virga.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Subject: Re: A.J. English
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Keywords: English  ALEX
Organization: Research Applications Program/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:33:50 GMT



xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes:
>>>Sean  <icsu0182@cs.montana.edu> writes:
>>bcperry@eos.ncsu.edu (BRENT COLE PERRY) writes:

>>>A.J. English is one of my favorite players, but I haven't heard much
>>>about him this year.  Is he hurt?  Did the Bullets let him go?  Is
>>>he in Europe?

> A.J. English, upon retiring, got kicked upstairs to the management
> end of the Denver Nuggets.  He is working in the front office, and
> has been since the beginning of the season...

>Try Alex English.  A. J. English was a second year shooting guard for the
>Bullets who bolted for Europe and more money this season.

As for Alex English, he isn't working in the MIGHTY NUGGETS front office.
He's working for the NBA Players' Association, where he was once president.
He has, however, "made peace" with the Nuggs management, after his last
year in Denver was a feud with Doug Moe over playing time, and then he
wasn't resigned, and ended up in Dallas before finishing with a year in
Europe.  His number in Denver (#2) will be retired this year.

>Watch out folks, this could become another net.legend .

I can't wait to find out who it is that English bit!

--
Rick Grubin     grubin@ncar.ucar.edu
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From: bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom)
Subject: Re: Shaq: 2nd coming of Jordan?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 03:40:03 GMT

In <1ejq5lINNrfg@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:


>This could be the player we thought wouldn't come again.  So far, what
>Shaqis doing reminds me of Jordan's explosion into the League.  How long
>before he starts complainning, "Get me some talent?!" ;)  Of course it's
>early, and he hasn't faced many great Centers yet.  But, if he continues
>putting up 29pts/19rebs or so a game, Orlando will explode into the playoffs
>THIS YEAR!  Amazing.

Won't be long before HE starts complaining?  Sheesh.  As long as the Orlando
Magic have Shaq and his contract, there will be no other talent since he's
sucking up a lot of money.  Now, if he wants to win a championship one day, 
he's gonna have to rework his contract so that the Magic can get some money
to actually put talent around him.  As of now, the best talent he's gonna get
is this year's talent, cuz if the Magic start winning, then others on the
team are gonna want pay raises, too.

-- 
Brian T Odom

"We are all manufacturers -- some make good, others make trouble, and still
others make excuses."
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Where did the Shaq blasters go?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:07:22 GMT

davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:

>Yeah, the Bullets have been busts in the draft recently, but things may
>have taking a turn for the better.  The Gugs is looking mighty interesting..

	Here's one for U, Dave.  After a Bullets game, I remember an interview
	w/ a player from the opposing team that nite (can't remember who),
	and he said that Gugliotta reminded him of a "young Larry Bird".
	Any comments?

	My personal opinion is that this is a bit far fetched.  My greates
	memories of Larry Bird is of him being a dead-eye long range shooter.
	Gugliotta doesn't have nearly that skill (although he ain't bad).

	(For all U flame hounds out there, yes I know that Bird was much more
	than just a long-range shooter -- it's just what I remember him best
	for)

	Jazzy J
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From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Sun's uniforms (Was:Re: Bulls stomp Suns: a sad tale)
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:55:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

hbolande@java.journalism.indiana.edu writes:

>TWO QUESTIONS FOR SUNS FANS:
>1) Why didn't Knight (who posted great numbers while KJ was injured) come  
>off the bench instead of Frank Johnson at PG?
>2)Does anybody like the new uniforms?

I was wondering whether Barkley had made any comments about the uniforms.
I've seen them a couple of times on highlight shows and they strongly
remind me of the Sixers new uniforms last year, which Barkley commented 
that a five-year-old could have done a better job designing.
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Wolves Whispers
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:04:10 GMT

tmorgan@quesadilla.ssesco.com (Toni Morgan) writes:
>I can see the symmetry of such a move, but please, please, can't we keep
>Doug West?  Spencer, although popular, is expendable, but we would then be
>in need of a backup for Longley at the 5 spot.  West is the most exciting 
>player we have, as exhibited by the fact that he was chosen by the NBA to
>participate in last year's All Star weekend slam dunk competition (where,
>disappointingly, he did quite poorly).

	U would think Doug West would be an "untouchable" if the Wolves
	are concerned about winning.  This guy has improved every year, 
	and has tons of potential.  Along w/ Person, he's the only other
	reliable scorer on this team.  And, who would play off guard if
	he was traded?  Surely not Rodman.

>I'm one player short of being able to name the entire roster off the top of my
>head (West, Spencer, Person, Williams, Laettner, Longley, Bailey, Smith,
>Sellers, Blanks, Vetra, Maxey), but how about Bailey or Sellers instead of
>West???  Maxey?

	The Pistons would not pull the trigger on the deal with any of the
	3 players U mentioned.  Bailey is definitely beyond his prime,
	Sellers was just with them this year!, and Maxey is unproven, and
	has bad knees.  Oh -- the guy I think you're missing on the roster
	is Bob McCann (unless he was cut).

	Jazzy J

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From: tmorgan@quesadilla.ssesco.com (Toni Morgan)
Subject: Re: NOTES: Wolves vs Nuggets (11/21)
Organization: SSESCO
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:24:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.052710.28951@news2.cis.umn.edu> khansen@staff.tc.umn.edu () writes:

>                 The Wolves were 'lay-upped to death' by the Nuggets

Exactly as predicted by Chuck Person after the Wolves miserable showing against
Washington earlier in the week.  In assessing their defensive performance
against Washington, Person said that if their defense didn't improve someone
would do just that.  Think the Nuggets were listening?

rgds,
  T

Toni Morgan        |   "Rock and roll is more than a haircut."
toni@zetaco.com    |                               - Nuno Bettencourt
From: pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Barkley blasts white players again!!!
Date: 20 Nov 92 04:37:22 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <168A2E132.R3MCS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> R3MCS@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (MIKE SIMMONS) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.090636.18126@abo.fi>
>MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
> 
>>Apparently Sir Charles' mouth is beginning to thaw in the Arizona heat.
>>According to USA TODAY, he recently said this is the first time since Bobby
>>Jones retired he is on a team with white teammates who can actually *PLAY*.
>>You know what, he may actually be right.
>>Marcus Lindroos                             Internet:     mlindroos@abo.fi
>>Computer Science

Apart from being a comfirmed A-hole, the black militancy of Charles B is
questionable. This is the same black loving man who is married to a womn
who is whiter than snow-white, and was hostile to and elbowed an Angolan
player (who is blacker than he is). This man had better pull the Ankh 
down from his neck, the Kinte from his head and shoulder and admit to
the huge inferoirity complex that meakes him the complex inconsistent
mess he is. 
 
>  I take it he's excluding this summer in Barcelona???

Even he did not he would have a point. Larry Bird was washed up and deserved
to go only if the team was 50 strong. John Stockton was not in the physical
condition to play. The two Chrises were beneficiaries of affirmative action.

I mean there are good white players in the NBA like Mark Price. Either he
or Hardaway should have gone in place of Stockton (and maybe Magic) who 
was a liability. The USA won not because it comprised the twelve best A
merican players but because ist BB standards are too high for the rest
of the world.

makala
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