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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: OS2 - What is it ?
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 09:54:40 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Aug28.022052.27664@nmt.edu> ehobbs@nmt.edu (Eric Hobbs) writes:
> 
> Someone said that programs that have their own memory manager will
> not run in OS/2.  Is there an option at bootup that will allow the
> user to boot into DOS rather than OS/2 so that you _can_ run 
> those programs that use their own memory management?

OS/2 V2.0 has three possible configurations with repect to booting the system.

1. OS/2 Only - you turn on the power and you get OS/2's WorkPlace Shell desktop.

2. Dual boot - You can boot either OS/2 or DOS. They share the boot sector
location.....sort of. You must retain the FAT file structure - no HPFS - as
both systems have to be able to see the disk. DOS under OS/2 can see HPFS, but
DOS booted "native" can't.
 
3. Boot manager - you can have multiple OSes sharing the same disk (or disks).
UNIX(s), OS/2(s), DOS(s)....please yourself. I think the limit is 5 different
systems. They can't see each other's partitions - especially UNIX's which are
formatted differently - boot you can boot which ever one you feel like at the
time from the boot menu (which you only see if you install this option). Boot
Manager takes about 2megs of disk space.

Steve
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: jfoy@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Jeff Foy)
Subject: Re: Which is faster Qbasic or GWBasic
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:23:51 GMT

In <reichert.715377642@aloe1> reichert@rtsg.mot.com (Charles H. Reichert) writes:

>>Someone please correct me if i'm wrong - but I believe Qbasic is compiled
>>while GWbasic is interpreted. This would make Qbasic much faster.
>>It also means that once you compile the programs you don't need Qbasic
>>to run them.

>Yes, that's the "Basic" truth!  QBasic will compile the GWBasic unless
>Commodore used some different commands. 

Um, I believe we should define something here. QBASIC is an interpreter
that comes with DOS 5.0. It definitely does NOT compile standalone
programs. QuickBASIC is the compiler I believe you are referring to.
Also, there *is* a GW-BASIC compiler out there somewhere. I used it all
of one time before moving on to PDS 7.1.

Btw, if you have access to it, alt.lang.basic would be a very good
place for this discussion.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: walls@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Gerald Walls)
Subject: Re: What is local bus?
Organization: Honeywell Air Transport Systems Division
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 17:19:44 GMT

In article <TOMW.92Sep2182900@orac.esd.sgi.com> tomw@esd.sgi.com writes:
>
>EISA is a real system bus.  Local Bus just adds 1-3 special slots that
>run at processor speed.  EISA will cost you $1000.  Local Bus will cost
>you $50-$100.  Local Bus is faster than EISA.
>
>Note that there are EISA Local Bus machines being sold.  Seems pretty
>stupid to me.  As far as I'm concerned, the main advantage of EISA is
>speed, so why not just get a regular ISA Local Bus machine?
>
>Local Bus gives you up to 3 32-bit slots that run at the processor
>speed.  Generally, they use EISA-style connectors, but they aren't EISA
>compatible.  If you want to use the 32-bit slots, you have to get
>special cards for it.  Orchid now sells a Fahrenheit local bus board.
>ATI is going to be selling new versions of their Windows accelerator
>cards that work in a local bus.

EISA is a 32-bit version of ISA.  the local bus is NOT an extension or
part of the ISA or EISA but is a completely different bus.  the ISA and
EISA are system buses that run at a fixed speed in all machines, where
the local bus runs at the speed of the processor (I may be wrong about
that, it could run at a fixed speed that is much higher).  the
possible problem with this is that a card that runs in your 50MHz
machine may not run in a future 100MHz machine because it can't
handle the faster speed.

you can have a local bus in either a ISA or EISA bus.  I'm sure that
if I interpreted what I read incorrectly that someone will correct
me.


gerald walls (walls@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com) or
             (int_walls@am.eccx.umc@esu36.cfsat.honeywell.com)

       Any opinions expressed are my own and not
         those of Honeywell or its management.
From: bagdy@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Mark Bagdy)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 15:02:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Anyone ever had this mouse problem?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc

I have a Logitech serial mouse that I've been using for umteen years (seems
like).  All A-OK until I updated to DOS 5.0.  It seemed distictly associated
with the update.  Since then, the mouse randomly "warps" to another (random)
location on the screen.  

If I were to venture a guess, it would be a driver incompatibility.  
Have you changed any software or hardware since noticing it?  I've heard
of very similar circumstances with a piece of HP PC hardware.  It was a 
driver situation that needed changing.

Regards,
MRB
From: dmatiske@stravinsky.helios.nd.edu (david matiskella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799!!!!!
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:33:22 GMT
Reply-To: dmatiske@stravinsky.helios.nd.edu (david matiskella)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame

In article <1992Sep1.235149.13497@leland.Stanford.EDU>, spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (Stefano Pagiola) writes:
|> Jon W{tte writes
|> > Not to mention there's still nothing that beats QuickDraw in
|> > imaging model. (No, there isn't)
|> 
|> Yes there is.  Display PostScript.
|> 
|> --
|> -
|> Stefano Pagiola
|> Food Research Institute, Stanford University
|> spagiola@frinext.stanford.edu (NeXTMail encouraged)
	Well Display postscript on the Next is not exactly a speed demon in color. Unless of course you have one of those dimension boards with around 20 meg of ram.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: reichert@rtsg.mot.com (Charles H. Reichert)
Subject: Re: Which is faster Qbasic or GWBasic
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:00:42 GMT

wiegand@rtsg.mot.com (Robert Wiegand) writes:

>cwatters@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Coyt D Watters) writes:

>>That's pretty much the question.  Is QBASIC (supplied with DOS 5.x) faster
>>than the equivalent GWBASIC program?

>>Before some joker jumps in a tells me I should use a "real language" like
>>C or Pascal:

>>I am porting a large collection of programs written for the Commodore 64
>>(the best low budget computer ever invented) in BASIC to the PC.  I have
>>time to do some minor conversion, but not complete rewrite.

>>Since I have both BASICS, I want to use the faster one - I don't need all
>>the QBASIC bells and whistles (like mouse support and the new editor).

>>Email or Postings gladly accepted.
>>-Coyt

>Someone please correct me if i'm wrong - but I believe Qbasic is compiled
>while GWbasic is interpreted. This would make Qbasic much faster.
>It also means that once you compile the programs you don't need Qbasic
>to run them.

Yes, that's the "Basic" truth!  QBasic will compile the GWBasic unless
Commodore used some different commands.  QBasic will still use Line 
Numbering.  Using QBasic's editor you can do a search and replace very
quickly.  Example, the old TI-94 Basic used clr or clear instead of cls.
Also use of :, ; to indicate end of line was different.  I quickly converted
and then compiled using QBasic 4.5 without any problems.

	Chuck Reichert




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From: woody@cs.utexas.edu (James Woodgate)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Those Intel Processors (what is SX/DX)
Date: 4 Sep 1992 11:38:25 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: yoakum.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: bananas, Fahrvergnugen

In article <3p*vH0?-e9@atlantis.psu.edu> boltz@chopin.psu.edu (Mark Boltz) writes:
>so I thought I would try to straighten out the confusion.  This info is 
>coming from a copy of Intel's Product Overview 1992, so it isn't *completely*
>up-to-date, but close.
>
>80386 DX
>  32 bit data bus
>  32 bit internal data path
>  16, 20, 25, 33, 40 Mhz
                   ^^^^^^
                   ||||||

Does Intel make a 40 Mhz 386?  I thought only
AMD did?

If only AMD makes them I'd be surprised that Intel would
include it in any of their literature. :D

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From: nick@brimbank.pub.uu.oz.au (Nick Langmaid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: USENET capable UUCP software?
Date: 22 Aug 92 16:16:35 GMT
Organization: APANA

pat_meloy@outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Pat Meloy) writes:

>  I need to set up a UUCP site on my 386 QUICK! I'm losing my Amiga soon
> (temporary) and need to move all my UUCP stuff over to my IBM. Is there a
> UUCP package on the IBM that incorporates USENET _AND_ lets me feed another
> site? (I have a BBS depending on me).
> 
> I've tried UUPC (no news) and SMail/SNews (no feeding)...

Without any doubt, you want Waffle.  Version 1.64 should do what you need.
The just-released Version 1.65 probably does it better, but I have not
seen it yet.  Here is a recent announcement:

==============================>8=============================

From: dell@apple.com (Thomas E. Dell)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,alt.bbs.waffle,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Waffle 1.65 is available (details)
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle

Waffle 1.65 was released on 3 AUG 92, and is now
available in a bunch of places.

Waffle is a Usenet/UUCP/NNTP bbs for DOS or Unix machines.
Available here is the dos shareware version.

Unix machines supported include Xenix, BSD, SunOS, Ultrix, NeXT,
A/UX, ISC, Linux, and HP/UX. For more information on the Unix version,
contact <dell@vox.darkside.com>.

-----

By direct dial at 2400 to

  +1 408 245 7726
  /files/waffle/waf165.zip

on the Internet:

  halycon.com   192.135.191.2     ~/pub/waffle/waf165.zip

remote.halcyon.com can be reached at 

  +1 206 292 9048,
  Telebit T-2500, v.32, PEP, etc.
  /public/waf165.zip

Anonymous UUCP from remote.halcyon.com (remote.UUCP):

  in: nuucp word: nuucp
  uucp remote!~/waf165.zip

Archive Server from remote.halcyon.com:

  To: archive-server@remote.halcyon.com
  Place the following line in the TEXT of an email message:
  /GET /public/waf165.zip

Fidonet FREQ file request from 

  1:343/94,
  point requests accepted

halcyon.com can be reached at the following modems: +1 206

  +1 206 382 6245 Telebit T-2500
         455 8455 Telebit T-2500
         451 1916 Telebit T-2500
         451 1935 Telebit T-2500
         455 0629 Telebit PLUS
         455 1143 USR HST

     NOTE: these modems are on a rotary line and you MAY not get
           the modem you wanted

     For the above lines, log in as 'bbs' and download directly 
     from the /archive/pub/waffle directory.

dell@vox.darkside.com / Thomas E Dell
From: adminpb@aau.dk (Nis Peder Bonde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: How to increase keyboard-buffer ?
Date: 31 Aug 92 08:51:50 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Aarhus University, Denmark

Can anybody tell me how to increase the size of the keyboard-buffer
on a PC? Normaly it's about 16 keystrokes, but I have to increase
it substantially.

I have lokked in the DOS-manual, but haven't found any references.

Please respond by E-mail and I shall summarize.

				Bonde
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Phone     : +45 86 20 27 11 ext. 4993

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Newsgroups: uiuc.emacs,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: marca@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Marc Andreessen)
Subject: Re: Using emacs under NCSA telnet
Organization: Nat'l Center for Supercomputing Applications
Distribution: il
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:14:38 GMT

   I am trying to use emacs under NCSA telnet, but I can no longer
   make marks, either with Ctrl-SPACE or CTRL-@. Any suggestions?

ESC x set-mark-command is one possibility...

Marc

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: Seokmin Ahn <smahn@vx.cis.umn.edu>
Subject: Q: Are the Baud Rate and BPS same?
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:57:01 GMT

Hi! netters,

The advertisement about modems confused me about Baud rate and BPS.

Would someone please clear up this for me ?

Thank you.
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From: peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d
Subject: Re: Why do people want PD software?
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 16:16:54 GMT
Organization: Global Village 1

davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:

>In article <367@global.hacktic.nl>, peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser) writes:

>| That is of course nit-picking. Would you suggest GCC if someone asks for a PD
>| C compiler? Of course not! It's not a PD C compiler but a freeware. Sheesh!

>  What's your point here? Your statement is correct, but I think you're
>trying to make it say something else other than what the word mean. GCC
>is not PD, if someone needs PD they can't use it.

Why would anyone need PD and not freeware?

>  Since half the people in the USA are lawyers, it's important.
So that's what is wrong with the US... ;-)

>I have
>released UNIX source to things I was selling for DOS, and restricted
>distribution of the DOS binaries. I forbid distribution of modified
>source code on most of the things I post to the net, because people send
>out hacked versions and I get questions about it.

That's not what I know as freeware. The GNU stuff is freeware and it doesn't
forbid anything but taking away people's freedom. Real PD software has absolute
freedom, so there is only a little difference between the two. What I do with
free (i.e. GNU-ish) software is not affected by the copyleft so me (and for
most hobbyists) normally there is no real difference.

>  There si a real distinction here, and your effort to gloss over it
>does not make it go away.
We are talking about two different things here. I am not glossing things over.

>If something is PD you can do what you like
>with it, including copyrighting it, claiming you wrote it, etc.
Only complete morons do that. I was talking about (supposedly :) normal people.

>That's why FSF and many contributing authors retain copyright.
Of course.

>| Then why can't IBM sue every clone maker? The PC and AT architectures and BIOS
>| are intellectual property of IBM because they were invented and published by
>| IBM.

>  The answer is they can, they have, and they still will. That's why
>people buy commercial BIOS chips, because they are certified developed
>clean and free of IBM code. In the early days many clone vendors were
>sued for the BIOS code.
Apple did the same in the old Apple ][ days. And often those BIOSes/Apple ROMS
were direct copies of the original except for the copyright.

Greetings,
Peter Busser
From: cbt@cam-orl.co.uk (Chris B Turner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Fix for AT&T 6300 clock
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:39:26 GMT
Organization: Olivetti Research Ltd


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From: grs@werple.pub.uu.oz.au (Gary Schmidt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: How can I identify CPU types ??
Date: 23 Aug 92 13:30:26 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Werple public-access Unix, Melbourne

I want to be able to programmatically identify which variation of the Intel
80x86 my program is running on, without having to use protected mode
instructions.

I would like some assemby code that I can assemble for any OS, be it MeSsy-DOS,
*NIX, PICK, OS/2, ... etcetera, that does not need any high privs to be run,
and will tell me whether I am on an 8086, 80286, 80386, or an 80486.  I really
want something that will allow me to determine the difference between a '386
and a '486, not so much whether it's an SX step or not, but whether it is a
'486.

Please bear in mind that I do not want to switch the processor in and out of
various modes, and I want the sort of stuff that could be linked into any
piece of code.

	Cheers,
		Gary	B-)

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From: kelley@kiwi.ATMOS.ColoState.Edu (Kelley Wittmeyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Computer Components for Sale
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:25:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: yuma.Sep03.172532.22502
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

386SX-16Mhz motherboard with 4Mb RAM -- $275

30Mb hard drive with controller -- $100

VGA graphics card -- $50

these items are located in ft collins colorado.  if
interested;

email to kelley@kiwi.atmos.colostate.edu
(129.82.107.43 if you need the ip address for
your host table...)

OR

phone mark at
303 493 4644 (night)  303 491 8667 (day)

please do not post as i do not subscribe to this news
group and am doing this for a friend.  thanks!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: manne@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Magnus L|vkvist)
Subject: Re: Speaking of Window NT
Keywords: Microsoft, Window_NT, SLOW
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:10:42 GMT

cantor@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (scott eric cantor) writes:

>In article <17mnt5INNdki@agate.berkeley.edu> chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU writes:
>>In article <1992Aug27.113905.19790@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>>
>>>MAC users will love that! I don't know a single MAC user who would give up
>>>their GUI for the Win3.x program manager.......

>	And I don't know too many Windows users who would give up the
>Windows interface for the Mac GUI either.  Note that the interface and
>Program Manager are two different things.  Program Manager sucks, but I
>use other shells.

>>
>>Assuming that Window NT will sport the same interface as Window 3.1, I'm not
>>thrilled (been a both Mac and PC user)

>	I have to agree with this.  Since NT is basically a Windows
>successor, I'd like to see a more object oriented environment.  WPS is OK,
>but it's still a long ways from object oriented.

A long way? OK, there is a lot of discussion about what the term object
oriented means but most people wouldn't say that the wonderful WPS is far
from object oriented.

>>According to a friend who's running Window NT beta, it is slow as hell...
>>(he equated it to Window 3.1 running on 286 with 1MB of RAM) And mind you,
>>he's running Window NT on a 486DX-50 with 32 MB RAM and 1.2 GIG HD...

>	I don't know what the heck your friend's doing, but I can practically
>guarantee you it's something wrong.  We have NT running on a Dell 483/33 with
>16 megs of RAM, and it's performance is certainly acceptable.  It took about
>20+ demo programs running at the same time before we noticed an appreciable
>CPU slowdown.  If you want slow, try OS/2 on a 4 meg 386.

And if you want REALLY slow try the NT alpha (there is no beta yet) on a 4
meg 386.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: millernw@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Neal Miller)
Subject: New modem-config for Telix wanted
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 00:11:56 GMT

	I recently purchased an internal GVC 14.4K baud modem for my EPS
386-33, to replace my 2400 baud.  I think that the automatic modem-
configuring program in Telix is great, but it seems that my modem is
newer than the latest version of the file.  The one that came with Telix 3.15
only had one GVC modem listed, and the newer one, from the file TXMDM207.ZIP
which I found on wuarchive had a total of about six or so GVC modems, none
of which were 14.4K baud.  If anyone knows of a still newer one (or better
yet, if the author of the file reads this), could this modem be tacked onto
the list?  The modem number of my modem is:

FM-144HVbis
(The non-fax version is SM-144HVbis)

Please mail any useful info.

Thanks,

 - Neal

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: schneide@tortie.me.uiuc.edu (Ken Schneider)
Subject: How do the DOS clock and the BIOS clock interact?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:18:49 GMT
Keywords: pc, clock

I recently wrote a short program which allows you to change the
BIOS clock on a PC.  It took me quite some time to figure out
how to plug things into the interrupt in order to change the
time, but I learned a lot.  One thing I couldn't find anywhere,
though, was how the BIOS clock and the DOS clock interact.  All
I know is that the DOS clock reads the BIOS clock on bootup.

I'm mainly curious because where I work, we have a lot of
computers hooked up to provide a reservation system.  These
computers are constantly generating a lot of interrupts and
my boss refuses to update to a more powerful computer which
can handle them (we're still running an original IBM AT.
Because of all the interrupts, the clock is always falling
behind and screwing up everybody's reservation (if they
don't show up within 6 minutes, all their time is cancelled).
Supposedly, if we just use the DOS "time" command, within
minutes, the time goes back to what it originally was.  The
only way to correct the problem is to update the BIOS clock
and reboot.  What's going on here???

e-mail me at:  schneide@aries.scs.uiuc.edu
If I get enough replies, I will post them.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc