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From: ALI00JEV@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU (Judith Van Noate)
Subject: Re: Red Dobe w/odor problem
Organization: UNC Charlotte
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:54:54 GMT

In article <4fAByhi00VpO48dUto@andrew.cmu.edu>
tr2k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Timothy Ross) writes:
 
>
>I have a 10 mo. old red dobe puppy who has  the worst odor I have ever
>smelled on a dog.  He also has dander pretty badly.  I have been adding
>two to three tablespoons of oil to his diet per week and have already
>weaned him away from puppy chow.   He now eats purina ONE and the odor
>has since decreased considerably but it is still obvious enough to curb
>prolonged stays in the house.   When I hug him or wrestle with him my
>clothes take on the odor,  when I scratch his hind flanks or back, my
>hands also assume the odor.   His head and face do not stink and half of
>his neck is also odorless but I do not want to put a puppy on prednizone
> ( the vet's suggestion ).  Does anyone know how to help?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Tim Ross
>tr2k@andrew.cmu.edu
 
Sorry but I have to ask, did you actually take him to the vet, or
just call.  You didn't say he actually had skin sores or weeping
areas.  My guess, from the information you supply, is that he might
have anal sac problems.  The anal fluid can get on the skin, and
it is pretty terrible smelling.  It could be leaking out and he
might be lying on it.  If it isn't this, and you have seen the vet,
ask the vet if he could refer you to a skin specialist.  Dobermans
don't have any odor at all ordinarily.  Well, they smell wonderful
but you have to put your nose up to them to notice.
Judith
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Re: Akitas
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:54:01 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.215624.26845@unislc.uucp>, Steve Spencer writes:
 >Does anyone have any information on Akitas (ie. club newsletters,
 >breed descriptions, etc.) That they could send me? I feel that I
 >know a fair amount about the breed, so please, no one paragraph
 >"I think akitas are like THIS" type responses. Prefferrably
 >the type of information that is given to people considering joining
 >a club.

I have a lot of info (as a proud owner of one!), but you don't 
narrow it down enough.  I have a book written by the lady who is
in charge of some national Akita club, to which I do not belong.

Since you are specific in what information you don't want, how about
some specific questions that we/I can try to answer for you?

============================>Robert McMullen<============================

    The opinions expressed in this message in no way reflect those of
   ASK Computer Systems, Inc.  Flames welcome, but highly uncalled for!

=========================>robert@askinc.ask.com<=========================

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: ross@tarski.tmc.edu (David Ross)
Subject: re-house-breaking adult dog
Organization: University of Hawaii Mathematics Department
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:57:00 GMT


Our 7-year-old Springer Spaniel was finally released from Hawaii's
quarantine kennels yesterday.  As anticipated, after 4 months as
a kennel dog she needs to be housebroken again.  Does anyone have
any idea of how long this will take?  BTW, she had awesome
control before her move/incarceration, and her initial housebreaking 
was both quick and painless.

- David

--
David Ross, Dept. of Math., Univ. of Hawaii at Manoa, Honolulu HI  96822
Internet: ross@math.hawaii.edu  -or- ross@tarski.math.hawaii.edu
Phone: 808-956-9949
From: dwatson1@metz.une.edu.au (David Watson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: excited by car travel
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:12:39 GMT
Organization: University of New England, Armidale, Australia

In article <8DEC92.12321454@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu> maddox@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu writes:
>I have a friend who has a dog with the same problem.  I would
>like to enlighten this with the cable.  But if I go into a
>auto parts store, will they know what I mean by saying I need
>a "static cable"?

Since I sent this suggestion I should help explain. The autoparts person
may or maynot know what it is. To describe it tell them it is a wire strip
that is enclosed in plastic (usually copper wire ?) which connects to 
the metal portion of the rear bumper or car frame and hangs down to touch
the ground behind the car. I have two on my car.

DAvid Watson
Yascott Kennels		Breeding Better Brindles - Scottish Terriers
Armidale, NSW
Australia

dwatson1@metz.une.oz.au
From: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Opinions on dog sleeping
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Nitelog BBS - Monterey, CA - 408-655-1096
Reply-To: michael.hagerty@nitelog.com (Michael Hagerty) 

On 12-14-92, SAL MAGNONE wrote to ALL:

SM> I would like to know your opinion on pets sleeping in the same room as
SM> their owners.  I have read different views on this subject and would
SM> like to learn of some first hand experience on this subject.
SM>
SM> Please include do's and dont's on the subject.

Our house is maintained for the comfort and convenience of our dogs.  They
sleep wherever they choose (however, I reserve the right to move them off
my side of the bed).  They sleep on the chairs, the bed and, occasionally,
on the beds set aside for them.  The don'ts are:  no lifting of dogs onto
the furniture--they either get up under their own power or stay on the
floor; no eating on the furniture, no fighting over territory on the bed.

The do's are...  Oh, all dogs get frequently bathed, all dogs remain flea
and tick free, and dogs move when pushed without complaining.

Regards, Mikey (michael.hagerty@nitelog.com)

 * JABBER v1.3B1 #B042 * Zounds!  Five Basset Hounds on the bed at once!
                                                                                                                                               
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From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Subject: Re: Opinions on dog sleeping arrangements
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:34:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.160651.11075@news.nd.edu> mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu (Michael George Buening) writes:
>As was already mentioned, the Monks of New Skete in their book, How to
>be your dogs best friend, think it is very important to have your dog
>in the bedroom at night with you.  However, they also stress the importance
>of not having your dog actually in the bed with you.  I must admit I 
>don't follow this rule and Beamer sleeps in the middle of our king sized
>water bed every night.  As you can imagine, since the Monks do live in an
>abbey, there is not noise allowed at all in the sleeping quarters.  This
>creates a small problem with puppies at first and explains their insistance
>that dogs go to sleep and be quite the whole night.  They tell of horror
>stories of dogs tearing apart the bed if allowed to be on the bed ever.  We

I remember reading this too.  It seems a little silly to me.  A dog that
tears up a bed will not do it, in my opinion, just because he is allowed
to sleep there. 

>have never seen this in Beamer and he is relatively small so I haven't
>worried about it.  I want an English Mastiff as my next dog (no time soon
>unfortunately) and I don't think I will let him/her sleep on the bed :-).

Oh, don't be so sure.  My Malamute sleeps with me on occasion. :-)

>
>Mike
>
>-- 
>| Michael Buening	         | 
>| mike@nowaksg.chem.nd.edu       |


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From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Homemade dog food
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:16:54 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

In article <9212112358.AA2147@f723.n202.z1.fidonet.org> ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org writes:

[stuff deleted]

>  Some people think dogs can be turned into vegetarians.  I think they
>will remain ccarnivors, no matter how hard those who wish they were
>vegetarians hope.  As opposed to a vegetarian, a dog has a short
>digestive tract.  If an animal has a long enough digestive tract, they
>can in time derive some food value from soybeans.

Dogs, like humans, are omnivores.  Cats are true carnivores.

[stuff deleted]

>--- FMail 0.92
> * Origin: HILLCREST COMMUNITY BBS, SAN DIEGO: HST 619-291-0544 (1:202/703)

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E-Mail: srlee@beta.lanl.gov    | dogs.
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From: shari@modcomp.uucp (Shari Bernhard)
Subject: Crate Training 102
Organization: MODCOMP, an AEG company
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:30:58 GMT
Summary: I may adopt an older dog.

My husband and I had planned on adopting a puppy from the shelter over
Christmas vacation.  We both have almost two weeks off and felt that it
would give us time to really start training.  We currently have Raven,
a 70 lb Lab/Shepherd mix of 10.5 years, and 4 cats ranging from 9 to 12
years old.  The cats were Jeff's, Raven was mine, and it didn't take
long before the former cat-hating dog was obsequiously bowing to the
cats' higher station in life (:->  Not really; *they* think so, though).

I had never considered crating a dog before reading this newsgroup.  After
all, anthropomorphically speaking, a dog is a human! :-D  However, my
opinion has changed and now think that crating is a Good Thing, and
planned on crate-training any puppy we got.

Here's my dilemma:  we ran across some people with a very cute young dog,
a 1 year old male neutered Shepherd/Husky mix, about 40 lbs.  They are
trying to find a home for him because they cannot keep him where they
live.  Rocky's really cute, and Jeff fell in love with him, but I'm
worried that we won't be able to crate-train him since he's a year old
and his routine has been to be put on a run in the back yard during the
day when no one's home and inside with no restrictions during the evening.

From the answer to Crate Training 101, it appears that it is possible to
crate train an older puppy.  However, since Raven was never crate-trained,
being human and all, how would the new dog take to it?  I'm willing to
subject myself to shorter sleep hours if it would work, but would the
fact that Raven is out and about all day drive Rocky nuts?  Also, I'm on
a long work-day shift, 9 hours, with a 1/2 hour drive each way.  My
husband and I commute together.  Is it cruel and unusual punishment to
crate a dog for 10 hours?  If I got him over Christmas, I could use the
increased crate time method, working his way up to 10 hours.

Please send email because I don't always get to read news in time before
it expires.  I also want to call Rocky's people by Thursday 12/17.
Thanks to one and all.

Shari Bernhard
uunet!modcomp!shari
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: ALI00JEV@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU (Judith Van Noate)
Subject: Re: Help! Boredom sores caused by licking
Organization: UNC Charlotte
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:33:59 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.210829.11563@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
myerse@spot.Colorado.EDU (MYERS ETHELLA ANN) writes:
 
>
>In article <2B30D64E.489@ics.uci.edu> tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore) writes:
>>In <1992Dec17.180440.14479@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> myerse@spot.Colorado.EDU (MYERS ETHELLA ANN) writes:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Help!!!  My dog is licking his leg into a bloody mess!
>>>Late this summer my samoyed starting boredom licking his leg.
>
> Is there anything else that might be causing this behavior besides
>boredom? Stress maybe?  Shiloh gets 3 walks a day - an hour in the
>
I'm not convinced that bordome or stress cause these sores--I've had at
least six dogs with this problem.  I think they get a small abrasion,
which iritates them, much as a bug bite or cut might iritate a person.
The licking makes it feel better.  It makes it feel a lot better
acording to a recent AKC Gazette article, similar to injecting it
with painkiller.  I don't remember if it is some substance in the
dog's saliva--I think it is, but anyway that's the effect.  The
licking makes the sore never heal because of the abrasion, it can
get infected, but the licking also makes it feel better.  There is
now a drug which can be injected in the wound which prevents the
licking from stopping the pain.  I rememeber that this was really
expensive.  The collar plus the Synotic or other topical should
clear up most sores eventually.  Only one of my dogs couldn't deal
with the collar.  The others acted like there was nothing strange
about the collar at all, and it helped Sara catch tennis balls
better.  It was somewhat difficult sleeping with Sandro--large
doberman--in a large Elizabethan collar, but we did come to an
agreement that he had to stay on the lower part of the bed.
Sara had to be on antibiotics because her sore got infected.  i
had a culture done to make sure we were using the right medicine.
Good luck with this stubborn and anyoying problem.  Don't blame
yourself for not spending enough (or the right kind of) time with
the dog.  It's more a systemic (I can't think of the right word,
but it's a medical term) problem than a behavior problem.
Judith
From: williamsk@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (SETTING UP FOR A FINISH)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Flyball and Agility competetion
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:35:04 EST

I was at a dog show with my golden retriever this week-end.  Two of the things
that were going on were agility and flyball demonstrations.  Spencer was with
me when they were doing the agility demostration.  He got really excited about
it (or maybe it was the dog that was doing it that he got excited about :-).
At any rate,  I think that he would really love doing both the agility and 
flyball competition.  I know that I would love doing it with him.  Does anybody
know if there are any clubs in the NorthEastern Ohio area that I could contact
for either agility or flyball?  Does anyone have any ideas on getting such
information?

Thanks,
Kim (and Spencer)
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: OFA - Is it worth appealing?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 04:54:58 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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: (4) The xrays are compared to xrays of other members of a particular breed.
: German Shepherd hips are not compared to Greyhound hips, but compared to
: the breed as a whole. So even if you look at pictures from other breeds,
: it is hard to tell what your individual dog would rate.

X-rays are also compared within age groups.

There is a very good book on dysplasia by Fred Lanting.  I think it is
titled Canine Hip Dysplasia and is from Alpine Publications.  I'll double
check and correct if necessary, but I'm pretty sure that is right.

Karen
From: locke@4ccvw54.scg.hac.com (Anne Locke)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Doggie Hotels in AZ or NM???
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:56:58 GMT
Reply-To: locke@caesi.scg.hac.com (Anne Locke)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA

Hi,

My husband and I are travelling to northern New Mexico for Christmas
with our Rhodesian Ridgeback (Rio).  We'll be driving and staying
overnight in either Winslow or Flagstaff AZ or Gallup NM.  Does anyone
know of any hotels/motels which accept dogs?  Rio will be travelling
with her crate and doesn't have a problem being crated (no whining,
barking, etc.).

Any suggestions would be appreciated... otherwise we'll just "wing it"
and try to find a place when we get there or (last resort) sleep in the
back of the truck!

Happy Holidays!
Anne.

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From: shedevil@vix.com (Anne P. Mitchell JD)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Akita
Date: 13 Dec 1992 17:01:01 -0800
Organization: Knapp & Viola, Attys. at Law, San Mateo, CA
Distribution: na
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*Joe Wu (jowu@plx.com) wrote:
*: Hi netter,
*:  
*: Has Any netter have experience about Akita. My wife and I brought a Akita puppy
*: (male) a while ago. Now we are "a little bit" worry about his strong will.
*: Is this dog some kind agressive to other dog/animal or even stranger. 
*


Akitas have a reputation for being dog-aggressive, particularly as t
hey mature.  You are fortunate in that, I think, you live very close
to the Sunnyvale dog park.  If it's not too late [i.e. your dog is
already so agreessive that he would be unwelcome] I recommend taking
him to the dog park as often as possible to give him *lots* of ongoing
doggie socialization.

Our dog Tazi, who we think is a Chow/Akita cross, was about 14 months
old whwen we got her, and quite dominant...but not actually dog
aggressive..but she seemed to be heading that way.  We started taking
her to the dog park and it made a noticible difference.  I also take
her with me wherever I can, and she is now quite people-sociable.
Many people have said that massive dog and people socialization is key
with Akitas, and I believe they are right.
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Traveling with Fido
Date: 13 Dec 1992 19:51:32 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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[stuff deleted]
: suddenly learn that they have a weight limit of 15 lbs.  After talking to the
: mananger etc. they agreed to let me bring him and all is fine there but what
: is the weight limit for?  I get very annoyed at that because I find that owners
: of small dogs have less of a tendency to train their dogs.  After all it's not
: that big a deal if a Mini poodle jumps on you versus a 90 lb GSD.  Of course 
: there is the "yappiness" factor too but I've known many a small dog that didn't
: yap so please dont flame me--I'm talking generalities and stereotypes.
: BT

Why? So that they can say that they take dogs, but then not really have to.
Only the very smallest breeds fall into this weight category.  An awful
lot of cats don't even fit it!  

Karen

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:14:37 -0500 
From: Timothy Ross <tr2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Red Dobe w/odor problem

I have a 10 mo. old red dobe puppy who has  the worst odor I have ever
smelled on a dog.  He also has dander pretty badly.  I have been adding
two to three tablespoons of oil to his diet per week and have already
weaned him away from puppy chow.   He now eats purina ONE and the odor
has since decreased considerably but it is still obvious enough to curb
prolonged stays in the house.   When I hug him or wrestle with him my
clothes take on the odor,  when I scratch his hind flanks or back, my
hands also assume the odor.   His head and face do not stink and half of
his neck is also odorless but I do not want to put a puppy on prednizone
 ( the vet's suggestion ).  Does anyone know how to help?

Thanks,

Tim Ross
tr2k@andrew.cmu.edu
From: kkeating@acsu.buffalo.edu (Kelly Anne Hinkle)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Name the Puppy Contest...)
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:43:19 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci

In article <18444@mindlink.bc.ca> Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop) writes:
>
>Ooo! I'm getting some great ideas! I like the name 'Marlowe' but I'd have to
>do some research into a registered name. 'Edgar' is also great...probably
>some good reg. name material in The Raven...'Nevermore'?
>
>I've also thought of 'Byron', although again, I need to do some research, but
>didn't he write a tongue-in-cheek poem called The Constant Lover? If not him,
>who? "Ch. Kennelname's Constant Lover OTCh." :)
>
>I've gone one step worse than counting my puppies before they're whelped :)
>
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Speaking of Poe...my husband used to read the poem Annabell Lee to me all the
time, and revised it to propose to me.  (Another story altogether!)  :)  How
about Annabell Lee, or something rom it if you get a female?  I know you said
male, but like you said, your puppies aren't even hatched or whelped or
whatever yet!  :)

Good luck in your search....but if I had a male witha literary name, I'd
probably choose Barrett.  (Can you tell I'm a poet?)  :)

Cheers......Kelly, and Opal too!
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: bethi@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Elizabeth Olsen)
Subject: Re: Dogs walking Dogs ?!?!?
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:00:09 GMT

My little Peke/Pom, Black Bart's greatest joy seems to
be to grab Tim's (Maltese) leash and take him for a walk
for as long a distance as I allow. He always grabs a
soft toy if he can when he is excited, next choice is
to grab Tim (leash, harness, or hair), last choice is
my toes. Hard to believe his ancestors would have been
used to herd anything, but he really has a strong
tendency that way.

Beth Olsen
bethi@eecs.umich.edu
Tim, Maltese
Black Bart, Peke-Pom
and Tarot, black cat
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Test for Deafness in Older Pup
From: RGINZBERG@eagle.wesleyan.edu (Ruth Ginzberg)
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:28:02 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Philosophy Dept., Wesleyan University
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Can anyone recommend a way of testing an older pup (who has already begun
formal obedience training) for deafness?  I *THINK* she's only exhibiting
"selective hearing" -- i.e., "hearing" just what she wants to & "not hearing"
when she doesn't want to obey.  But I keep having this nagging question...  
I mean, it's *possible* that all the times I *thought* she was responding to a
sound, she was actually responding to movement (sight) or smell.  She does seem
to *anticipate* verbal commands in a strange way, so that it seems almost as
though she's "reading my mind".  But if she's actually cueing off of VISUAL
information rather than auditory info, that might explain it...

What got me wondering was that I caught her chewing on one of my records which
she had selected from the record shelf. (No, THIS isn't what made me wonder...)
What was strange was when I yelled, "NO, BAD DOG." from the next room while
clattering my housekeys & generally making a racket, she never seemed even to
notice.  In fact, I got all the way up to her & physically removed her from the
inappropriate object while declaring, "NO, BAD DOG!" before she ever even
looked at me, & when she DID, it was a quizzical look, not that ("Oh, oh...")
look that she usually gives when she's been caught red-handed (red-pawed?).  It
was as though she hadn't *heard* me until she *saw* me......

------------------------
Ruth Ginzberg <rginzberg@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
Philosophy Department;Wesleyan University;USA
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