HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: An Advice to Shit Incarnate (deb chaterjee)
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:46:29 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1993Jan8.015852.15950@slate.mines.colorado.edu>, imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
> 
> 
> This is an advice to the smelly, black,shit incarnate dog (deb chutterjee)
> not to type Islam , Pakistan ,Urdu,Ibrahim and Mustafa with his shitty 
> hands. These are holy names and should be respected as such.
> 
> Furthermore , instead of going to alt.flame , I would like to restrict
> our war to soc.culture.indian only.
> 
> Jo Galeez Zaban Too' nay net per istaymaal key hay ,Kuttay, oos say
> aisa lagta hai kay tojhay maa' nay nahein Kutia nay Jana haa.
> 
> I could have used that language but my religion doesnot allow me to 
> do the same. You are lucky moron !!
> 
> 
> 	Ibrahim  Mustafa
> 	(- the best samaritan)
> 
> 
> 
> P.S.  Personally I hate to type the name of this impotent but unfortunately
> sometimes I have to do that.






    GO READ ALT.FLAME  FOR MY REPLIES.

     - DEB CHATTERJEE
     (A GOOD SAMARITAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: nd3375@meibm5.cen.uiuc.edu (Nishit Dey)
Subject: Re: Who Kicked *something* First ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:33:49 GMT


  Hi Harsh,

	Sincere advice to you. Don't get into an argument with this leprous
person.You will soil yourself. It will be better, if you put a hankie
on your nose, and wait still he leaves.


Nishit



Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Subject: Re: Rapes in Bosnia-Bangladesh-Burma-India
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:52:44 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.

In article <1993Jan11.185726.28391@prism.poly.edu> ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain) writes:
>jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) writes:
>>>ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain) writes:
>
>>>> I was just wondering what the hell is 'Bangladeshi Bangali'??
>
>>... hey Arshad, how could you ask such a stupid question :) :)
>
>Just to find out how many stupid SCPians would not get my point.
>
>You are one of them.

Naaahhh :) :) you don't really mean that do you ;-)

>
>Arshad

Nadeem

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School of Computer Science			  
Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7527  
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From: varma@paul.rutgers.edu (not yet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Who Kicked *something* First ?
Date: 6 Jan 93 04:58:45 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.pakistan
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1993Jan6.021449.14616@slate.mines.colorado.edu>, imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
> 
>   In one of his postings the shitty shoodar (deb chatterje) writes,
> 	" O .... Pakis, remember we kicked your ass in 1971. "

> I would like to inform him that it was We Pakistanis who kicked 
> your ass in *14th  August 1947* by dividing india into two parts. 

Are you aware that Pakistan did NOT exist before '*14th  August
1947*'. Since Pakistan was a result of that division therefore there
is no question of Pakistan causing it. It was Indians who did that,
and surely it was a very dishonorable thing to do. Jinnah betrayed his
own country and people for petty personal gains. In fact, the whole idea
of a Muslim nation was started by Iqbal (please correct me if I am 
wrong), another Indian, long before the date you have mentioned. Their
lack of foresight is clearly reflected by the current sate of affairs
in the Islamic Republics of Pakistan and Bangladesh. 

> The kicked was so powerful that it blocked the only hole in your
> ass. Since then you have left with only one hole , at the top, from
> where you eat food and from where you reject shit. 

This is not true at all. I am an Indian, and either am an exception to
your hypothesis or you are wrong. However, I have reasons to believe
that you are wrong because I have traveled a lot by the Indian
Railways. I remember looking out of the window in the mornings and
seeing many others, squatting by the side of the tracks, and they were
not just thinking. 

I disagree with Deb though. We did not kick anything in 1971. All we
did was to march to Dacca and liberate a nation. Unfortunately, on the
Western front we were not that successful. Pakistani forces
surrendered before we could capture Islamabad. All we could get was
90,000 prisoners and a few war souvenirs (like Patton Tanks, Saber(?)
Jets, etc.), now on display all over India. 

One more thing, Mr. Ibrahim, about the subject (which I have changed
to make fit it for public forum) under which you had posted (which
was, 'Who Kicked the Ass First ?) : please understand that, in general,
it does not matter who had the first word (read KICK) but who had the
last word (again, read KICK).

> Got that moron!!!

I sincerely believe that with the kind of arguments you make, you have
no right to call anyone else a moron. 

May I request you to be more discreet on the net. Your remarks may be
the acceptable in your culture but certainly are not in the civilized
world. There are rules you must follow like the rest of us.

(Please delay your reply by twenty days since I will be away on vacation.)

Regards,
-- 
Harsh Varma
Department of Computer Science
Rutgers University

Disclaimer: None. Please, everyone adopt my opinion, I am right!

Postscript: Please dont flame me, and I get very scared by death
            threats.
From: mujtaba@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (mujtaba)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: What has Mr Mustafa done.
Date: 5 Jan 93 23:52:53 GMT
Reply-To: mujtaba@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (mujtaba)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: mujtaba@grumpy.cc.utexas.edu

I haven't read this newsgroup in a while. But it seems that Mr Mustafa
is experiencing the wrath of all the indians and a few pakistanis on the
net. Why? I'd be very grateful if someone would enlighten me, either by
posting on this net or e-mailing me.
By the way does any one have any idea of what happened in the test match
that pakistan was playing vs NZ. Last I heard NZ was 99 for 9 needing
28 more runs to win.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Subject: re: pak bites the dust (c
Reply-To: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:08:18 EST

Quoting: Adil Shaikh 
 AS> Hay Hay
 AS> Papistan bites the dust.
 AS> In B&H triangular tournament:
 AS> Papistan 71 (All Out)
 AS> WI won by 9 wickets.
 AS> It seems Papistan love to make low scores in Australia.
 AS> In World Cup they were all out for 74 against England but rain
 saved 
 
But you seem to be ignoring the painfully obvious: PAKISTAN WON THE
BLODDY WORLD CUP, which was held in............AUSTRALIA!

Faraz Rabbani
Toronto, Canada

faraz.rabbani@canrem.com

... I used to have a psychic girlfriend but she dumped me before we met.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Subject: re: punjabi dialect/langu
Reply-To: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:11:03 EST

 NJ> <faraz.rabbani#canrem.com> writes: 
 rzz@po.CWRU.Edu (Reema Z. Zuberi said: 
 > RZZ> In his post, Aftab Ahmad bemoans the demise of the Punjabi
 > RZZ> language as he knows it.  But I remember a Punjabi friend once
 > RZZ> telling me that Punjabi has no alphabet of its own (i.e. it uses
 > RZZ> the same alphabets as Urdu).  If that is the case, then,
 > RZZ> technically, Punjabi was never really a language in the first
 > RZZ> place.  By the way, I am acquainted with Pakistanis who can and do
 > RZZ> still speak "pure" Punjabi.
 >
 >But French, Spanish, English and other European languages share the
 >same alphabet...  but they are languages in their own right...  a
 >language is something that a people speak.  Many old languages never
 >had an alphabet, but (since they were spoken) were most certainly
 >languages...

 jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) quips:
 NJ> Panjabi "has" a script called Gurmukhi. In Indian Panjab, it is still
 NJ> prevalent. Why the script is not used in Pakistan is another issue.
 NJ> It's strange how some people can start discussing a problem that
 NJ> doesn't exist. 

Well...  _I_ was unaware of that...  so thanks for the info.  I was
saying that Punjabi exists because people speak it.  Whether they
write it in its own way does not define its existence.

Faraz Rabbani
Toronto, Canada

faraz.rabbani@canrem.com

... Power corrupts. Absolute power is kind of neat.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: bond@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Girish)
Subject: Re: INDIA's achievements.....
Keywords: computers  software
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:37:30 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.203004.2330@ncsu.edu> akfs@unity.ncsu.edu (Ashwini NMI Kumar) writes:
>The following is taken from India News Network (without permission!)
>
>Hope it makes you proud of our achievement:
>
>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 20:15:07 GMT
>From: gnreddy@cbnewsf.att.com (G.Narotham Reddy)
>Subject: India Sells Four (PARAM) Supercomputers to Canada and Germany
>
>Source   : PTI
>
>* Four PARAM Supercomputers sold to Canada, Germany and Russia
>[.....]


 Following are the three institutes which have decided to buy the
PARAM supercomputer from Bharat:

1. My university: University of New Brunswick, Fredericton, NB, Canada.

2. University of Bremen, Germany.

3. The Institute of Computer-Aided Design, Moscow, Russia.

I don't know about the fourth one.

Sheffield University, U.K. is still negotiating with the centre for
this supercomputer.

-- Girish.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.india,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: ama@siberia.cypress.com (Aslam Ali/LOGIC)
Subject: AYODHYA
Originator: ama@stimpy
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor, San Jose, CA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:48:19 GMT

What transpired in Ayodhya is without doubt a major tragedy for my country
(India) and we will have to deal with the consequences of this disaster for
some time to come.  I appreciate anyone who sympathises with us.  However,
I fail to understand how Pakistanis destroying their own archaelogical
treasures is going to help us, either in the short term, or the long term.

Most countries in the world are busy preserving old buildings as a source
of critical tourism revenue, which the countries of the subcontinent badly
need.  Why do we people of the subcontinent get so immersed in hatred that
we cut off our nose to spite our face!
From: fsyed@sw.stratus.com (Faiz Syed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Urdu Poetry newsgroup
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:46:51 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: osa.sw.stratus.com


Hi everyone,

A couple of months ago I heard about an urdu poetry newsgroup being created.
Could someone please tell me if it was created and if it was, then what is it
called??

thanks
faiz
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From: sramacha@aludra.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: An Advice to Shit Incarnate (deb chaterjee)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 20:20:52 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Mr. Mustafa writes:

>
>	Ibrahim  Mustafa
>	(- the best samaritan)
>
>
>
>P.S.  Personally I hate to type the name of this impotent but unfortunately
>sometimes I have to do that.


	oh,oh !

;^)
From: imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Who Kicked *something* First ?
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:15:39 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

In article <C0F68F.A0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> nd3375@meibm5.cen.uiuc.edu (Nishit Dey) writes:
>
>  Hi Harsh,
>
>	Sincere advice to you. Don't get into an argument with this leprous
>person.You will soil yourself. It will be better, if you put a hankie
>on your nose, and wait still he leaves.
>
>
>Nishit
    

That is why i callled you Ni(shit).
From: indu@iss700.Columbia.NCR.COM ()
Subject: Re: Language on SCP
Originator: indu@iss700
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 20:24:08 GMT

To: brao@pollux.usc.edu
Subject: Re: Offensive casteist usage on s.c.p.

In article <1iketcINNaa7@pollux.usc.edu> you write:
>
>I have noticed with some chagrin that Shams Hassan (presumably a Muslim)
>persists in using terms such as Bhangi/Chamaar in obviously derogatory
>references to what used to be untouchable castes of the subcontinent. I
>
>I am also somewhat surprised and disappointed that there has been no
>chorus of admonitions to Shams Hassan from Muslims, about this usage. 
>Considering that Islam is based on equality and respect for human 
>beings (or so I am informed) I would have expected Muslims to be
>prompt and firm in condemning such casteist attitudes as displayed
>by a fellow Muslim. I am not well-versed with social conditions in
>present-day Pakistan, but it would appear that prejudice against
>erstwhile untouchable castes is alive and well in Muslim Pakistan. If
>this is true, I hope that Pakistanis will look inward and strive to
>view all human beings as equal, and discourage contemptuous usages
>such as Bhangi or Chamaar. 

   Well said!  But what point in saying it in here. It has been proven beyond
   poin that that fellow is incorrigible. I can appreciate, you can appreciate 
   and any other sane-sensible-human can appreciate. But what about creatures
   like Shams?

   Also, I would like to remind you that YOU HAD VERY HI expectations of
   Pakistanis? Hi expectations and low value returns.

   All this trash about equality is neither exists nor practiced. I have read
   articles  where there Islamic castes, where people are classified as 
   Nawabs, Tailors, Kafirs, and something like that.
   
>As it is, I suspect that to many Pakistanis, Islam's much-vaunted equality
>is often little more than a convenient device with which to browbeat
>thoughtful Hindus, who are rightly troubled by the sin of untouchability. 

   Fortunately there are lot of reformers. Like the RSS, Iswara Chandra 
   Vidya Sagar, Rammohun Roy, Dayananda,  Ramanuja, Shankara etc for these. 
   And you find the Hindu society now changed.

   But  we are yet to find such reforms to uplift Women, the destitutes  in 
   Islam. We still are to find people who can  voice for the Equality rights.

>Bapa Rao
-Indu.
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From: ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Rapes in Bosnia-Bangladesh-Burma-India
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:57:26 GMT
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York

jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali) writes:
>>ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain) writes:

>>> I was just wondering what the hell is 'Bangladeshi Bangali'??

>... hey Arshad, how could you ask such a stupid question :) :)

Just to find out how many stupid SCPians would not get my point.

You are one of them.

Arshad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: amjad@qureshi.austin.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: An Advice to Shit Incarnate (deb chaterjee)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:48:26 GMT
Organization: IBM AWS, Austin Tx.

In article <1993Jan8.015852.15950@slate.mines.colorado.edu> imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
>
>
>This is an advice to the smelly, black,shit incarnate dog (deb chutterjee)
>not to type Islam , Pakistan ,Urdu,Ibrahim and Mustafa with his shitty 
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>hands. These are holy names and should be respected as such.
                  ^^^^^^^^^^

 Mustafa- Are you sure that Pakistan and Urdu are holy names?


>
>Furthermore , instead of going to alt.flame , I would like to restrict
>our war to soc.culture.indian only.
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Its a two way street Mustafa- Unpay keechur uchalo-gay tu tum per
ziyada keechur uchlay ga!
Ignorance is the best cure!

 
>
>Jo Galeez Zaban Too' nay net per istaymaal key hay ,Kuttay, oos say
>aisa lagta hai kay tojhay maa' nay nahein Kutia nay Jana haa.
>
>I could have used that language but my religion doesnot allow me to 
>do the same. You are lucky moron !!

Once again, ignorance is the best cure here!



>
>
>	Ibrahim  Mustafa
>	(- the best samaritan)
>
>P.S.  Personally I hate to type the name of this impotent but unfortunately
>sometimes I have to do that.



Amjad qureshi
Email: amjad@austin.ibm.com


 "The average woman would rather have beauty than brains, because the
  average man can see better than he can think."


Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: aftab@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov (Aftab Ahmad;MU-SPIN/CESDIS)
Subject: Re: The language on SCP
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:54:35 GMT

merchant@davidsys.com (Rukhsana Merchant) writes:

>In article <1id3t6INNs05@shelley.u.washington.edu>, shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Dear Rukhsana Merchant,

>I am not your *dear* anything (Thanks to Allah!!), so please do not refer
>to me as such in the future!!

	:-) :-) :-) :-) (chuckle)

Since it *is* a public forum, I have the right to speak too (and
also the obligation of taking others). How would someone stop people calling
dear. If you go hunting jobs, people reply mostly like this;

"Dear Bla Bla,
	Thanks. Currently, we don't ..bla bla"

I can imagine R.M. replyng to a job offer. Or this behavior is only for Desi's?

>If you feel that these kind of post show an accurate portrayal of what the
>bueaty of our culture has to offer to outsiders, I would be ashamed to feel
>that this is all it has to offer.

	This is my day! At least someone knows we also have a culture besides 
Deen (perhaps?).
>> 
>> Shams Hasan.


>Ms. Merchant

Mr. Ahmad
-- 
Ha-ey rabba ho saadi ug na blay
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Subject: Re: Private Education in Pakistan
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:07:01 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.

In article <1im7ruINNl9m@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan) writes:
>
>In response to Nadeem Jamali's last posting under "Private Educat......"
>

.... (rest of the posting deleted)

I'm sorry Mansoor. It's been a long time since I wrote that article. I've
completely lost interest in discussing that topic. If I have time I'll try
explaining my standpoint some other time.

regards

Nadeem

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: <KONDARED@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Smell Comes from Shit   ....  Mr.Ni(shit)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:52:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.054120.40514@slate.mines.colorado.edu>,
imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) says:

>.................................

>P.S.  I hate  personal attacks  but unfortunately sometimes
>I have to do that.

 Very interesting!

 -Sashi

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From: imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: PakistaNews Text Files Until GIF Color Restarts Soon - #0111
Date: 11 Jan 93 09:55:19 GMT
Organization: IMRAN: Information & Media Resources, Affiliations, Networks

BENAZIR, NUSRAT TO ATTEND GEN. ASIFUS SOYEM

Ms. Benazir Bhutto, Co-chairperson, PPP and leader of Opposition and Begum 
Nusrat Bhutto, chairperson, PPP will leave for Islamabad to attend the soyem of 
late General Asif Nawaz, Chief of the Army Staff.

PPP MAY WITHDRAW SUPPORT TO BALOCHISTAN GOVT.

Political activities against the present government in Balochustan gained 
momentum, in Balochistan gained momentum, when Jamohoori Watan Party MPAs met 
with Speaker Balochistan Assembly and JUI MPAs today.

HINDU-MUSLIM RIOTS CLAIM 100 MORE LIVES

The Hindu-Muslim riots which began in India four days ago, have spread to 
several other cities including Bombay, Baroda, Glujrat and Ahmadabad where over 
100 people were killed on Saturday.

DEATH THREATS: BURNEY COMPLAINS TO STATE DEPT.

Ansar Burney, a Pakistani human rights activist who said he had received 
anonymous death threats because of his anti-India campaign here, on Friday 
urged the State Department to investigate the matter. 

[Now he and I have something in common! - Imran Anwar]

SECRET CONTACTS TO ANNUL 8TH AMEND UNDERWAY:PDA

The PDA has decided on a new strategy to oust the present IJI government.  This
was disclosed here by a central PPP leader and member of the National Assembly 
who requested anonymity.  He said it has been decided to abolish the 8th 
Amendment by working inside the Assembly.  He said principally, IJI, PDA and 
other opposition parties are vehemently opposed to the 8th Amendment, yet none 
has the courage to oppose it openly.

---

Imran Anwar
ia4@cunixa.columbia.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan