From: ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain)
Subject: Reply to Mr. Mubarak
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 14:57:14 GMT

>From: jamal@caen.engin.umich.edu (Jamal Mubarak)
>
>Can you, Mr Hussain, explain to me how the Lahori sect of Ahmedis can
>believe that the Mirza was not a prophet while he himself claimed to
>be one?

Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad used the word NABI for himself in 
 the sense that ca be found in dictionary. 
He has repeatedly said that anybody who does not like the word
can replace it by MUHADDIS/MUJADID.
This word we do not take in any other sense whetsoever.
He was the TRUE believer of Final Prophethood of Holy prophet 
Muhammad(PBUH).
Here are some of his own words.

1.   He quotes the Khatam an-nabiyyin verse of the Quran (33:40), and
     translates it into Urdu as follows:

     "That is to say, Muhammad is not the father of any man from among
     you, but he is the Messenger of Allah, and the one to end the
     prophets. This verse also clearly argues that, after our Holy
     Prophet, no messenger shall come into the world." (Izala Auham,
     p. 614)

     His Urdu words are: aur nabiun ko khatam karnay wala (and the one to end
the prophets).

2.   Again, quoting the Khatam an-nabiyyin verse, he writes in an
     Arabic book: "Do you not know that the Merciful God has declared
     our Holy Prophet to be the Khatam al-anbiya UNCONDITIONALLY, and
     our Holy Prophet has explained this in his words: There is no
     prophet after me." (Hamamat al-Bushra, p. 81-82)

3.   "The Holy Prophet had repeatedly said that no prophet would come
     after him, and the hadith `There is no prophet after me' was so
     well-known that no one had any doubt about its authenticity. And
     the Holy Quran, every word of which is binding, in its verse `he
     is the Messenger of Allah and the Khatam an-nabiyyin', confirmed
     that prophethood has in fact ended with our Holy Prophet." (Kitab
     al-Barriyya, p. 184)

4.   "In brief, God by naming the Holy Prophet as Khatam an-nabiyyin
     in the Quran, and the Holy Prophet himself by saying `There is no
     prophet after me' in Hadith, had settled the matter that no
     prophet can come after the Holy Prophet, in terms of the real
     meaning of prophethood." (ibid., p. 185, footnote)

5.   "I firmly believe that our Holy Prophet Muhammad is the Khatam
     al-anbiya, and after him no prophet shall come for this Muslim
     people, neither new nor old." (Nishan Asmani, p. 28)

6.   "The actual fact, to which I testify with the highest testimony,
     is that our Holy Prophet is the Khatam al-anbiya, and after him
     no prophet will come, neither an old one nor a new one."
     (Anjam Atham, p. 27, footnote)

7.   "The fact that our Holy Prophet is the Khatam al-anbiya also
     requires the death of Jesus because if another prophet comes
     after him, he cannot remain the Khatam al-anbiya ... The return
     of Jesus is not mentioned anywhere in the Holy Quran, but THE
     ENDING OF PROPHETHOOD IS MENTIONED PERFECTLY CLEARLY. To make a
     distinction between the coming of an old prophet [i.e. Jesus] and
     a new prophet is mischievous. Neither the Hadith nor the Quran
     make such a distinction, and the negation contained in the hadith
     report `There is no prophet after me' is TOTAL. What audacity,
     boldness and insolence it is to depart from the clear meaning of
     the Quran, in pursuit of one's feeble conjectures, and believe in
     the coming of a prophet after the Khatam al-anbiya! (Ayyam
     as-Sulh, p. 146)

8.   "By saying `There is no prophet after me', the Holy Prophet
     Muhammad closed the door absolutely to any new prophet or the
     return of any old prophet." (Ayyam as-Sulh, p. 152)
 
These references are quoted from Zahid Aziz's letter he wrote on the
net.
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