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From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Re: Oakland: MAKE ROOM, MAKE ROOM!
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:13:50 GMT

In article <4778@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us>, "Edsarr" writes:
 >There are just too many people inside the shows at Oakland.  Period.
 >All seats filled.  Floor packed uncomfortably.  All standing places filled.
 >People wandering trying to just see the stage.  Pressure, territorialism.
 >Loud guards with flashlights during quiet Morning Dew and Space.
 >
 >Nice people become greedy about space when there isn't enough for everyone.

Agreed.  These shows have been oversold.  I usually go with friends and
dance on the floor, so it's okay, but 12/11 I went with my girlfriend and
she got pissed at how crowded the floor was and wanted to get a seat.  So
we looked (about midway through the first set, right after Stagger Lee).

There were *plenty* of seats; but they're "taken".  Too many jerks throw 
their backpacks and stuff on seats, then go down and dance on the floor or 
outside.  This is really greedy and inconsiderate, especially when you 
consider these people probably only sit in the seats at set break.  And I'm 
not the kind of person to move someone's stuff if I don't know them.  So it 
just becomes mega-frustration at a time when we should be loose.

This is a major argument for a providing a choice of reserved
seats or GA floor like at lots of other concerts (not all, but lots)...

============================>Robert McMullen<============================

    The opinions expressed in this message in no way reflect those of
   ASK Computer Systems, Inc.  Flames welcome, but highly uncalled for!

=========================>robert@askinc.ask.com<=========================

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From: dab@donner.cc.bellcore.com (ballard,david a)
Subject: picture in deadbase '91
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:47:12 GMT



On page 78 of Deadbase '91 there's a great picture of the inside of
Boston Garden during the '91 fall run.  In the top part of
the picture are all the Bruin's championship banners- it looks really 
cool.  Being a big B's fan, I'd like to get a copy of the picture.  
The photographer is listed as John Rottet but his name is not listed 
with those that offer their pics for sale.  Does anyone know John 
or know how I can reach him?  I would really appreciate any info...

thanks
dab

=========================================================================
dave ballard	
dab@cc.bellcore.com 
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From: un040367@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Those little plastic boxes
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:10:24 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing


	Without an ounce of originality, I throw myself upon all your mercy,
and beg - I NEED TAPES! I've currently got about 100 hours worth, nothing big,
but I need to expand my collection (and my mind, Jerry)...

Your list for mine, that kinda thing...And with every reply, you get absolutely
free, 1000 personal thanks! (Money back if not delighted)

Have a Jerry Christmas, and a hippy Bob Weir!

Zeek! 
305 White Plains Ct.
Severna Park,  MD
21146-3340
(410)647-7484
Purple and White Bus
Back Seat
Under Blanket
Clutching Ticket for dear life.
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From: CHRIS NEAL <NEAL@eds.ed.dreo.dnd.ca>
Subject: Re: Playing Reprise
Reply-To: NEAL@eds.ed.dreo.dnd.ca
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:25:21 GMT

|In article <1992Dec15.013317.18132@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> slogan@mta.ca writes:
|>      I going to sound really stupid to alot of you out there but is there
|>a difference between Playing in the Band and Playing Reprise. I just
|>noticed it 
|>in the set lists posted for 06-12-92 in Compton
|
|6/12/92 Compton?!?!?!

Calm down, he's refering to the Dec. 6 show. In Canada (take a look at the
address), it's standard to write the date as day/month/year, as opposed to
month/day/year as Americans write it. Actually I believe that most Europeans
write it day/month/year as well, so it's simply another case of Americans
being perverse :-)

Chris

Merry Christmas and a Grateful New Year (even without shows)

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From: SCM2232@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Subject: Brick joke show
Reply-To: SCM2232@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:45:55 GMT

The show w/ the really dumb (but none-the-less classic Bob cheese) brick
joke was I believe a '69 (can't remember the exact date) show in Queens,NY.
At the same show, Phil says something about the band being "space niggers".
(Whatever that means;-)

-Cale scm2232@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
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From: dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen)
Subject: Re: 12/11 Oakland show set list and review
Organization: Sequoia Peripherals, Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 22:18:11 GMT

In article <27948@dog.ee.lbl.gov> mike@inti.lbl.gov (Michael Helm) writes:
>
>Bay Areans -- how do you feel about having these shows in the middle
>of December?  I'm finding it disruptive, there are so many other
>things that go on here in our embarrassment-of-riches town in the run
>up to Christmas that I sort of take for granted, & the Dead shows
>really crowd up the calendar.  

I don't see a problem with my calendar being crowded; is there
something you'd rather do than go to shows?

But after finally training my employer to not mind if I duck
out of work early the week between Christmas and New Year's,
I'm seeing some grumbling about my ducking out in the middle of 
the month.

>it's going to be dead for real around here this year (I'm leaving town
>for the first time in years during that stretch).  It seemed like an
>interesting experiment at first, but now I think I prefer Ye Olde Way.

I think we all would. My guess is that because of Jerry's illness
and uncertain future, the band was not willing to rent out the
coliseum for New Year's eve as far in advance as they would have
had to. Does anybody know what's happening there this NYE?



-- 
Dave Eisen                               Sequoia Peripherals: (415) 967-5644
dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU              Home:                (415) 321-5154
       There's something in my library to offend everybody. 
          --- Washington Coalition Against Censorship
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From: "brian s. zaff" <BZAFF@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil>
Subject: Re: The harder they come
Reply-To: BZAFF@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:33:11 GMT

(GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet) writes:

|        The JGB did this song at the Lawler ? event center in Reno, about
|5 years back.  A sizzleing JGB show, with a scorching Dear Prudence.  What
|ever happened to Jimmy Cliff ?

    JGB has played a few Jimmy Cliff songs and played them very nicely.  They 
did "The Harder They Come" at the Winter Theater in DC on 18-Mar-78,
too....sounds pretty sweet.  Still, my favorite dead/jgb reggea tune has got
to be the Stir-it-up Jam from the Omin on 5-Apr-91. 

    Jimmy Cliff is alive and well as far as i know...and still touring from 
time to time....saw him last in Columbus Oh about 3 years ago.  Still puts on 
a smoking show.  

    Speaking of Jimmy Cliff, i'd sure love it if the dead covered "Sparrow" 
and "Bongo Man"....


pppps,
  -brian

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&

Well, the oppressers are tryin' to keep me down,tryin' to drive me underground.
And though they think they've got the battle won,
I say "Forgive them, Lord, they know not what they've done."
'Cause as sure as the sun will shine,
I'm gonna get my share, what's mine.
And then the harder they come, the harder they fall, one and all.
The harder they come, the harder they fall, one and all.

&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&&
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From: uajg@pool.sunyit.edu (Andrew Germaine)
Subject: "So Far" on PBS 12/11/92
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:26:37 GMT


For those interested, "So Far" is on WCNY which is Syracuse, NY's PBS
station. It will be broadcast in stereo and probably with no commercials.
It starts at 9:30pm EST.

Peace.

-- 
Andrew Germaine       | uajg@sunyit.edu   SUNY Institute of Technology, Utica
1212 Brinckerhoff Ave.|  "Whats so funny about peace, love, and understanding?"
Utica, NY 13501-4016  |    "If you get confused, listen to the Music play...."
(315)-733-8566(voice) |"And i'm not giving in an INCH!- to fear!" -David Crosby
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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 20 Dec 1992 21:58:12 MST
From: david hollister <AXLAH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Christmas Card from Terrapin Tapes..

Yup, I got one also.  I thought it was way cool.
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From: "T. Carl Schwink" <schwink@key.amdahl.com>
Subject: Oakland 12/16/92
Reply-To: schwink@key.amdahl.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:51:27 GMT

Hoo-eee!

Just got back from the Oakland-Alameda County Coliseum Arena, where the
Grateful Dead played the fourth in a series of five sold out concerts.
Tonight's setlists:

I:  Feel like a Stranger, Brown-Eyed Women, The Same Thing, Loose Lucy,
    Memphis Blues, Row Jimmy, Let it Grow

II: Shakedown Street -> Samson & Delilah -> Ship of Fools -> Playing in the
    Band -> Drums -> Space -> Dark Star (2nd Verse) -> Watchtower -> Stella
    Blue -> Good Lovin'

E:  Casey Jones

First set was well played, with the highlight being Let it Grow.  No real
surprises, but a very nice and well-rounded set.  :-).  Second set, however...
(carl pauses to let pulse settle a bit) ... WOW! 8-)!!  Shakedown rolled into
a long jam that sounded reminiscent of some of the Dancin' jams of '77.
After the climax subsided, the drummers brought the band into a smokin' Samson
that only paused for breath for Ship and the verses of Playin'.  Then into
a jam the flowed into a mostly acoustic Drumz.  Space was long from over when
the first hints of Dark Star whispered from Garcia's guitar.  The whisper soon
became a roar as Lesh's bass and then Weir and Welnick synced up.  How sweet
to hear the other half of the song started last Saturday, also in Oakland!

Watchtower smoked like usual.  Check Garcia on the tape for some prime modern
Jerry.  Stella Blue tried to relax the crowd, but it was not to be, and several
measures before Jerry was really finished, Weir forced the Good Lovin' rhythm
over Garcia's dying outro.  Bobby forgot verses 2 & 3, but it wouldn't have
been the Show if he'd remembered every word, now would it :-/.  Casey Jones
for the encore was the final bit o' dynamite that left a smoking crater of *my*
mind, and for most of the crowd as well.

First set was a little under 1:10 long; second set was about 1:45.  Go buy a
90 and a 100 in anticipation of the tree :-).

recharging the battery for tomorrow night,
carl
who suspects that this is going to be an unproductive third shift tonight %-)
From: dario.wolfish@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Dario Wolfish) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Dec 17 1992 Show
Date: 18 Dec 92 01:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: IDC BBS - Alameda, CA - 510-865-7115
Reply-To: dario.wolfish@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Dario Wolfish) 

Howdy folks. I just got back from the 12-17 show. The drag thing that 
happened is that the subway system got stuck and left us stranded for 2 
1/2 hours after the show. Imagine a bunch of stones deadheads stuck in 
Oakland trying to figure out what was happening. What a drag. 
 
Now to business. I only remember the 2nd set. 
Scarlet 
Fire 
Long Long Way 
Corina 
Uncle Johns Band 
Playin Reprise 
drums 
space 
Last Time 
Here Comes Sunshine 
Throwing Stone 
Not Fade Away 
 
Encore 
Baba O'Riley 
Tomorrow Never Knows 
 
 
I hope I got this right. The show was fantastic. The whole run was 
great. I look forward to Chinese New Years. 
--- 
 . KingQWK 1.05 # 38 . One man gathers what another man loses 

------------------------------------------------------------------------------

---
 . KingQWK 1.05 # 38 . One man gathers what another man loses
From: Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com (Lyle Scheer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Comments on 12/11 and 12/12
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:16:51 GMT
Reply-To: Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com (Lyle Scheer)

Excellent shows.  It seemed to be lower in energy to me, but the songs were all  
really tight.  What I really liked was that the crowd seemed much more  
restrained than I've ever seen it.  I mean, you could actually hear the softly  
played sections with only a few hoots and hollers in the background.

I'd also like to thank patrick for saving me from the nosebleed section on  
Saturday and offering me a seat with much better sound for the second set (just  
in time for that Darkstar!)

This was also the first time I've seen the boyz with the new earphones/sound  
system.  It really does make the stage uncluttered.

I wore my nethead shirt on Friday and only ran into two wellheads on the BART  
platform leaving the show.  Saturday, when I had a regular tie-dye, we started  
accululating a critical mass (well, 3) of nethead t-shirts between sets on the  
concourse.  I skipped Sunday as I wanted to be well rested for work on Monday,  
but if anyone out there has a spare for Wednesday....

--
                             E-Mail (NeXTmail accepted): Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com
                    "Character is what you are in the dark." -Buckaroo Banzai
"A little nonsense now and then, is relished by the wisest men." -Willy Wonka
From: bkelley@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Brian Kelley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: hearing loss (was: Phil & Earplugs)
Date: 15 Dec 1992 15:44:05 -0500
Organization: Chaotic
NNTP-Posting-Host: ef2007.efhd.ford.com

In article <1992Dec11.220848.10568@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>In article <1gavqnINNc87@ef2007.efhd.ford.com> bkelley@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Brian Kelley) writes:
>
>Well, this is a good story, BUT---why did the guy give bob the free drinks?
>shit, bob's probably the richest person who ever stepped into the bar! BOB
>should have bought the whole crowd drinks.

I guess...  But how many chances do you get to buy Bob a drink?  And of
course, you'd want him to to come to the bar where you work the next time
he's in town, so anything you could do to increase the likelihood of that
happening...

For some reason, I hadn't really considered giving Bob a hard time for not
buying people drinks.  I should have added that it was a Sunday and a
very slow night.  Very few people recognized him.

Another Sunday night last Summer, Mike Wallace (of 60 minutes fame)
walked in and ate/drank at the bar.  Missed Bob, saw Mike (lucky me!).
He said he went to school at the University of Michigan and that "it has
changed a lot in 50 years".  Jeez, he hadn't been back to Ann Arbor since
graduating.

I wouldn't be at all surprised to hear that he pulls down a 7 figure
salary from CBS.  Now this was the sort of guy you joked about buying
for the entire bar.  After he left, many of us did just that...

>well, maybe not. how many scotches did bob have anyway?

3 Lochnager's and something else I don't recall.

  Brian


--
bkelley@pms001.pms.ford.com

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From: peterc@solbourne.com (Peter Coburn)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Sound at MeNichols Shows in Denver Dec2-3
Date: 11 Dec 1992 10:55:12 -0700
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: martin.solbourne.com

The sound did suck @ NcNichols (too quiet was all I noticed)
The first night I was in the lower deck right off the right corner of the 
stage and the sound was fine. The second night I was in the upper deck and
it was way way too quiet.

Peter
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: CD recorders
Date: 16 Dec 1992 18:12:29 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
NNTP-Posting-Host: grissom.larc.nasa.gov

In article <1992Dec16.163020.5653@seas.gwu.edu> louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis) writes:
>On a recent SONY mailer I say a compact disc recorder, i.e. a little
>compact disc player, which also records, with no loss in quality.
>Immagine what that could do for deadheads:
>  1st generation of a tree would sound as good as bad.
>  No loss in sound quailty through the years.
>  No hiss (white sound). 

The device you saw was an MD machine, not a real CD recorder.  The MD
machines, like DCC, use a lossy compression scheme in order to get a bit
more than a full hour onto a small recordable disk.  The compression system
used is really ghastly; much worse than the DCC system (which isn't so hot
either).  I have a DCC machine on my test bench right now, and while I can
tell the difference between input and output, it's a lot better than most
cassette machines.  I got to hear an MD system at a trade show, and there
was an obvious difference between input and output which was pretty offensive
even on the cheap speakers they were using for the demo.

Incidentally, you can buy a real CD recorder for about $5,000 right now,
using the Taiyo Yuden WORM CD discs.  They sound like CDs do, although the
up-front price is a bit high.
--scott
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From: "Toby Rockwell" <p00220@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Just passin' time
Organization: the oasis at the end of the road
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 15:55:42 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

Saw this, and thought: this is where the old farts got it all over you kids,

>FROM:   Paul Kemp <pkemp@byron.u.washington.edu>>
>Here I was reading r.m.gd and I hear a familar tune on the radio.  No, it wasn't
>the Dead, but it was _El Paso_.  A very nice slow version...by a guy named
>Marty Robinson.  Never heard of him, but it was a best of compilation.  Very
>fun...

Well, back when Bob was in prep school, and I was in forth grade (1960), Marty 
Robbins (close;->) put out a popular cowboy ballad,   guess what?
After the Beatles, and the rest of modern R&R hit town, cowboy ballads 
were kinda passe with us youngsters (though middle of the road shit like 
ballad of the green berets still showed up, to near unanamous contempt);
but when you were just coming out of your Hop-a-long Cassidy (heh, heh) phase, 
stuff like El Paso was really fun.
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From: ckqh909s@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Golden Road - '92 Issue ??
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:17:10 EST
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

Has anyone heard about a Golden Road issue for '92?  Wasn't it about this time
last year that we were mailing in money for the annual issue?

--
Paul Fronstin
University of Miami
Department of Economics
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From: dblackbu@alleg.edu (Dave Blackburn)
Subject: Re: Jerry in Newsweek
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:52:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.054433.1069@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Jimmy Lichtman  
<jimmy@evergreen.com> writes:
>Does anyone know the date of the inaguration/concert?
>-jimmy

For the benefit of our foreign readers, Inauguration day for Presidents is  
*always* January 20. It needs a Constitutional amendment to change it. (used  
to be in March, not any more.)
The Inaugural Ball is usually that evening. Who knows when the Inaugural Dead  
Show will be. 
--

* Dave Blackburn  dblackbu@alleg.edu  flames to self@home.dev.null *          
* Chemistry, Macs, Hypercard, cats,  <>< religion, & the Dead      *
* (Anyone else who held these opinions would be as crazy as I am.) *
*   "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own"   *
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From: sowa@netcom.com (Erik Sowa)
Subject: Re: When is a genius not a genius?
Organization: Wahoo 5
	<75675@apple.apple.COM> <1992Dec17.000226.18251@ncar.ucar.edu>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:59:27 GMT

>>>>> "Brian" == Brian Kauffman <kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu> writes:

Brian> A real-time sound analyzer isn't going to tell you jack-shit about
Brian> the sound unless you blast a test tone at full volume into a quiet room.  
Brian> I don't recall that being done during either show at McNichols or anywhere.

I definitely heard test tones being blasted before the first Tempe show.

-- 
Erik Sowa (sowa@netcom.com)
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From: Josh Orfanakis <G_ORFANAKIS@ccnode.colorado.edu>
Subject: Alligator and such
Reply-To: G_ORFANAKIS@ccnode.colorado.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:56:06 GMT

I need a little alligator history.  I don't have a Deadbase, or at least one
that dates back to the beginning.  Anyway, I was wondering if they played it
at all after PigPen passed away?  When was the last time that they played it?
Is it their tune?
Also, I need some help with a tape....
Fillmore East 4/29/71
Morning Dew, Minglewood, Sugar Mag, Peter, BIODTL, 2nd that Emotion, Alligator>
drumz>GDTRFB, Cold rain & snow, China>rider, Greatest Story>Johnny B. goode
I was wondering if this was actually the order they played these songs, and
if it was a complete set, what set was it(2nd I assume)???
I know that they did an electric Ripple at this show, where does it fit in???
G_ORFANAKIS@CC.COLORADO.EDU is where I can be reached...
Thanks for your help
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From: "RAM DEMO" <rdemo37@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Just passin' time
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:56:02 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

>DATE:   Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:39:19 GMT
>FROM:   Paul Kemp <pkemp@byron.u.washington.edu>
>
>Here I was reading r.m.gd and I hear a familar tune on the radio.  No, it wasn't
>the Dead, but it was _El Paso_.  A very nice slow version...by a guy named
>Marty Robinson.  Never heard of him, but it was a best of compilation.  Very
>fun...
>pk
>
For those who are not aware, Marty Robinson wrote El Paso.
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From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: SETLIST 92.12.19
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 09:00:11 GMT



The Jerry Garcia Electric Band featuring Melvin Seals
The Warfield Theater, San Francisco CA 
19 Dec 1992

I: TWYDTTYD, Mission In The  Rain, TWLWMYD, Like A Road,
   Cest La Vie, Ain't No Bread, Brothers And Sisters, Deal

II: You Are My Shiningstar, What A Wonderful World (Garfunkel),
    And It Stoned Me, Money Honey, Senore (Tales of Yankee Power),
    Don't Let Go, Midnight Moonlight


Jerry Fashion Report: During the first set, Mr. Garcia came out in 
new running shoes, black sweat pants, and a green t-shirt worn over
the standard black t-shirt (it was cold today).  During the second
set, Mr. Garcia shed the green t-shirt for his standard black t-shirt.

Keep doing what you're doing Jerry. You're playing better than ever!!

Steve-TOO

"some folks would be happy just to have one dream come true..."