HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM (Lem Fugitt - Nihon Sun US Office)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Why the Fascination?
Date: 3 Sep 1992 00:10:42 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: tempus.corp.sun.com

In article 123925RSAYLC@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com, RSAYLC@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com (Larry E. Cravetz) writes:
> 
> For what it's worth, I believe that what you are seeing is the 'grass is always
>  greener on the other side of the fence' phenomenon. If someone is a little bit
>  different, that may be enough to arouse interest. I freely admit, I also find
> Amerasian/Eurasian women GENERALLY more attractive than the average Caucasian,
> but I don't let it run my life, or my relationships in the way you describe in
> your posting. Good luck !


From my own experience I would tend to agree with Larry's comments. Having
spent 10 years working with Japan - 7 of them in Japan - I've known numerous
Japanese that have expressed a fascination for gaijin of the opposite sex. I've
always assumed that it was an attraction based on uniqueness from the
person's normal cultural context. 

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From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Any Japanese Pussy Available?
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:47:43 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <1992Aug31.031359.12423@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mystery) writes:
>
>
>I really need a virgin Japanese, hightec cunt!!!!!!

  I could introduce a good Japanese surgeon for you to have one, but are you 
sure you REALLY need it?

--Michiaki
From: thomas@aic.co.jp (Thomas Johannsen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: savings accounts
Date: 1 Sep 92 09:05:53 GMT
Organization: Advanced Intelligent Communication Systems Lab.,Sendai,Japan
In-reply-to: TY.A62@isumvs.iastate.edu's message of 1 Sep 92 01:00:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.010001.17940@news.iastate.edu> TY.A62@isumvs.iastate.edu (jeffrey cross) writes:

 >     I have read that Japanese post offices offer tax-free saving accounts which
 >     pay slightly higher interest rates than commercial banks.  Is the
 >     average interest difference between the two large?  Does the banking
 >     counter at the post office offer other services such as converting yen
 >     to $ and electronically transferring it to a U.S.  financial
 >     institution?  

Sorry, don't know any details about post office accounts.


 > When opening a savings account in Japan is it necessary to
 >     have a 'han' (personal seal in kanji) or is a signature sufficient?

I was told that I need a hanko for opening my account (at 77 bank). Fine, I 
got one (in katakana, not kanji!) within a couple of hours for roughly Y4000 
(don't remember the exact sum). Afterwards I was told that there is a main 
branch downtown that allows usage of signatures for gaijin ;-)

One more word to hankos: Having one in Katakana is fine enough for everyday
life (bank, post, etc.). If you want to buy "real property" like a car or a 
flat, you need to have a registered hanko (inkan?). The problem came with 
matching my name between that Alien ID card (where it is in romaji) and the
hanko (where it was in katakana) for the registration process at my city ward.

To make it short: I had to get another hanko in romaji (yes, some shops do 
that!) and everything went fine. Surprisingly, it doesn't matter whether your
hanko carries your given name or surname, one of them is enough (choose the
shorter one - it's cheaper).

 > 
 >     Thanks.
 > --
 >     jeff cross, 231 Sweeney Hall   | ty.a62@isumvs.iastate.edu

Thomas


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: u2105545@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Shigetoh Kumagai)
Subject: Re: Smell of Food (Was: What do most of Japanese ...)
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 12:39:35 GMT

In article <2490@aegis.or.jp>, davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
> yoichi@milton.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
> 
> >In article <2470@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
> >>Miso-shiru smells? Hmmmm, news to me. Maybe my nose got burned out as
> >>a kid eating all the garlic my mom put in the salads :-) 
> >>
> >>I can smell natto a bit (eat it every morning) and the pickels, dried
> >>fishes, etc. but IMHO they don't compare to the smell of food from 
> >>the countries I mentioned. 
> 
> >Perhaps by "smell" you mean something like a great aromatic quality,
> >something that fills up a whole room or a house.  Natto has a smell 
> >(a really strong, bad one IMO) but you can't smell it across a room.
> 
> Interesting. I know that natto has a (slight) smell but I like it.

It depends on natto. It is depends on where it is from, what kind of natto,
how long it passed since it made..., good natto, or bad natto(quality)..
It is not a large differncce. 


--
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					   u2105545@cumulus.csd.unsw.oz.au
							(@@)         
A member of OzNeXT; A member of UNSWARS;		  > 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: u2105545@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Shigetoh Kumagai)
Subject: Re: What do most of Japanese think of Korean (Re: An open letter..)
Summary: eccentric
Organization: University of New South Wales
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 09:35:25 GMT


"eccentric" -> "sugoi henna"

Hope this help.

PS I made mistake to your mail, if it reached. sorry.

--
Shigetoh SARIRI Kumagai($@$/$^$,$$(J $@$7$2$H$r(J)   shk@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au
					   u2105545@cumulus.csd.unsw.oz.au
							(@@)         
A member of OzNeXT; A member of UNSWARS;		  > 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yokoyama@ee.ualberta.ca (Masami Yokoyama)
Subject: Ichitaro for IBM computers
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:00:04 GMT

Hello,

I heard that there is "Ichitaro" available for IBM computers.  Will some please
give me some information about it? (Price, where can I get it etc...)
Please e-mail, so that I will not miss anything. .

Thank in advance.

Masami Yokoyama

e-mail : yokoyama@bode.ee.ualberta.ca

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.china,soc.history,soc.culture.korea
From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: Japanese Expansion - 1930's (was: An open letter to the Emperor...)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:15:12 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Aug27.181042.11197@acuson.com> miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman ) writes:

+> 
+>        I was pretty appalled at the claim by a Japanese (related by
+>        Dave McLane ) that Japan invaded China (in the 1930s) at the
+>        request of the Communist Party of China.  Japan was busily
+>        jailing every leftist in Japan and the Imperialists who headed
+>        Japan were as adamantly opposed to socialism as the Nazis, and
+>        Fascists, despite some similarities in the rhetoric of all
+>        those groups.

		I think the events that shed the most light on what was
	going on in Japan in the 1920's and 1930's was the large numbers of
	outright murders of officials of the government that were committed
	either by the military or by right-wing fanatics.

	At the time of the Manchurian Invasion, fanaticism in Japan was like
	a fire burning out of control.  Many japanese actions look more like
	just a fanatic desire to expand in some direction than an organized
	effort.  From what little I understand, those years are partially
	characterized by endless factionalism.....army vs. navy vs. goverment
	vs. right-wing civilian fanatics vs. businessmen
	and with factions fighting each other within those major groups. 

	The strangest and most unexplainable thing I have found in this era
	was Japan's easy withdrawl from the portions of Siberia it occupied
	during the Russian civil war.  Considering that these were "dream"
	territories for the nationalist fanatics, and considering the
	remoteness from the center of Russian military power, I would have
	expected the Japanese to try to hold some of the territories or 
	fight it out with the russians more than they did.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tychay@juliet.caltech.edu (Chay, Terrence Y.)
Subject: Re: Any Japanese Pussy Available?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:51:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.031359.12423@ccu.umanitoba.ca>  
Mystery (umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca) writes...
    ["unbelievably offensive" line deleted]

Linda Absher (forgot reference) wrote...
    I find this little comment unbelievably offensive...
    Go away.....

Justin Sullivan (justin@mik.uky.edu) wrote...
    Amen.. Small wonder orientals call Westerners 'barbarians.'

In article <BtvIv5.4Js@world.std.com>
Charles M Richmond (cmr@world.std.com) writes...
    I had seriously considered bundling this up with some scathing remarks
    and forwarding it back to the system mgr of his node.

In this article
i am writing....

  this mystery character wrote some stuff to the effect that "windows is gay"
or "bill gates is a fag" on comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc.  unfortunatley, i can't
grep our usenet database for his other brillant comments.
  my feeling is that mystery has just gotten usenet access and is just going 
around harassing newsgroups.  mystery's comments, while offensive, seem to be
too sophomoric to evoke responses from everyone except people like me 
and i see the posts more as a cry for help than as actual harassment. so...

here is my advice to mystery:
  brush up your flame skills- how do you expect people to get angry when
         your posts are too short to even evoke shock in most netters?
  read alt.tastless, alt.peeves, and alt.evil and learn from your betters
  see a psychologist- people who get their jollies out of posting
         such crud on USENET have a real problem with their everyday lives
         (as in they don't have one).  sorry i can't tell you where to
         get a life as i am looking for one myself =]

  Charles, you may just want to save his comments on various newsgroups and
wait to see if mystery posts again on usenet before mailing them to the
systems administrator, then again you may not.
  I am curious if mystery has posted to other newsgroups.  it would seem like
such a waste to lose USENET priveleges overwo posts.  can someone grep their
database for umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca and mail it to charles?

          -terrychay
                 TYCHAY@CITJULIE.BITNET
                 tychay@juliet.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: pascal@fledgling.WPI.EDU (Jaret Peter Christopher)
Subject: Importing   
Originator: pascal@fledgling.WPI.EDU
Keywords: Importing to U.S.
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:24:06 GMT


If anyone knows of a loudspeaker Manuf. who could be interested in exporting
to the United States please E-mail or call at (508) 845-1313

Thank you,

Jaret Christopher
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Phobia (was Re: The Russo-Japanese War (part 2))
Date: 29 Aug 92 21:33:43 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:

[* history omitted *]

>Hmmm.  All these explanations seem to miss the point, in that there are a
>lot of Japanese tourists who are perfectly willing to go abroad in a super-
>vised tour group (complete with the woman in a blue suit waving a little
>flag) to see the Grand Canyon, Statue of Liberty, etc., NEVER having to
>interact with non-Japanese.

>When I was in Japan last year, I asked my Himeji host family if they had
>ever traveled to America.  The father (middle 50s) volunteered that he had
>gone to Australia on vacation with just such a group.

>In fairness to the Japanese, this occurs with Americans going abroad to
>such mysterious places as France, Italy, and Japan.  It's a question of
>comfort level --- some travelers DO want to savor the complete mystery of
>another country, while others just want to taste it, interacting with
>their own cultural group while they're there.  One way isn't better than
>the other.

I've heard another explanation for this as well: if you plan your
own trip and something goes wrong, you have only yourself to blame.
But if you let somebody else do it, then you can complain about
them!  So it has been said to me that people in Japan like to have
somebody else do the planning as it means they can all complain
together about the tour company and have to fight amoung themselves. 

One might be tempted to think that this is why Japan's goverment
tends to respond to "foreign pressure" rather than have any definite
plan of it's own. Only an idea :-)

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Have some cash
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:04:10 GMT
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
In-reply-to: davidg@aegis.or.jp's message of 26 Aug 92 00:44:08 GMT

In article <2495@aegis.or.jp> davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:

 =}Why not say something like "Hey, I came over here thinking xxxx, and
 =}I found out yyyy, which wasn't what I wanted. But, I also found zzzz
 =}and it was OK."

   Because then it wouldn't have fit the context of what he was replying
to...

   BTW: Does everyone posting a bad experience (even if it is due to their
	mistake) have to post a disclaimer saying that they know there
	are good things too?  If so, anyone posting a good experience
	would then have to post a disclaimer saying that they know there
	are bad experiences too?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: khchan@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (chan ka hei)
Subject: Optical comm info required
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 08:41:10 GMT


Hello everybody,

    I am currently engaged in a research about "Noise in Lightwave Video
Transmission", could anyone tell me from where (ftp port, journal,
books) I can get relevant info?

    Best Regards.
    Frank Chan
    (khchan@eng.ie.cuhk.hk)
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Need recipe...
Date: 24 Aug 92 00:20:14 GMT
Organization: Aegis Society, Kyoto Japan

japlady@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rebecca Radnor) writes:

>In article <Aug22.082845.18660@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura) writes:
>>In article <satoell.920821222808@eng.auburn.edu> satoell@eng.auburn.edu (Ellen Ayumi Sato) writes:
>>>
>>>Greetings!
>>>
>>>Would anyone have recipe for "okoa" (sp?) -- kind of "pink/light red" rice 
>>>with some type of bean ?

[* ingredients from Nishmura omitted *]

>Sounds like it's the same stuff as in my book, so here goes.

[* recipe omitted *]

>This recepie from:
>	Japanese Home Style Cooking, published by Better Home Japan
>	1-15-12 Shibuya, shibuya-ku
>	Tokyo 150, Japan
>	copyright 1986

>This is my favorite recepie Book.  You can get it in any Large english book
>section in Japan, or kinukunia book shop (spelling?) NY, NY.  They'll send
>it to you if you charge it to your Credit card.

What I posted was what people told me after they had looked at the
recipe that came with the rice cooker and said, "No no". According
to my experience to get it the way you want you can't really just
measure this and measure that as the rice and beans will all be
somewhat different depending on how where they came from how old
they are, etc. So it has been suggested that the way to proceed is
to get a reasonable amount of the ingredients and try them out: after
a couple of times you can ajust things to suit your taste.

But maybe this goes without saying....

Dave

--
Dave McLane 
JUNET: davidg@aegis.or.jp (ONLY within Japan: post otherwise)
Nagaokakyoshi, Kyoto Japan Tel: +81-75-951-1168 Fax: +81-75-957-1087
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yoichi@hardy.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Subject: Basically a pickled cabbage (Was: What do most...)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:12:50 GMT

ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura) writes:
>>PS.  the other day my friend who is a Czekoslovakian made some kimchee
>>     and I tried some...   Boy, they were great and my Korean friends
>>     agreed, too.  Now I have one of the bottles with kimchee in my
>>     refrigerator.  :->

davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
>Ahhh, sounds like you have enough. All I get is a little plastic bag <sigh>.  
>[...]
>Maybe I'll ask the people I know in Kosice if make kimchee too and
>see if they will reply to you directly so we can go around the loop
>once more :-)

Many people of that region (incl. Poland, Germany) eat lots of sourkraut (sp?),
don't they?  Sourkraut is basically a pickled cabbage that smells a lot, just
like kimchee.  Perhaps it's not so much of a coincidence ... :-)

BTW, I heard yesterday that the official date of Cz-Sl break up is Jan 1, 1993.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: TY.A62@isumvs.iastate.edu (jeffrey cross)
Subject: savings accounts
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:00:01 GMT

    I will be moving to Japan in January, 1993 and have several questions
    with regard to opening a savings account in Japan.  I would
    appreciate your input.

    I have read that Japanese post offices offer tax-free saving accounts which
    pay slightly higher interest rates than commercial banks.  Is the
    average interest difference between the two large?  Does the banking
    counter at the post office offer other services such as converting yen
    to $ and electronically transferring it to a U.S.  financial
    institution?  When opening a savings account in Japan is it necessary to
    have a 'han' (personal seal in kanji) or is a signature sufficient?

    Thanks.
--
    jeff cross, 231 Sweeney Hall   | ty.a62@isumvs.iastate.edu
    Iowa State University          | ty.a62@isumvs.bitnet
    Ames, Iowa 50011 USA           | voice (515) 296-7227
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: pjyamamo@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca
Subject: Re: Any Japanese Pussy Available?
Organization: Data Structures Group, C.S. Dept., U. of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:13:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.031359.12423@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mystery) writes:
>I really need a virgin Japanese, hightec cunt!!!!!!

I haven't been around for a while but just in case anybody else is
reading this chain for the first time and since I haven't seen any
explanation:

	Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:58:00 -0400
	Subject: Re: Any Japanese Pussy Available?

	Thanks for the report.  These articles were posted by somebody else
	using the poster's account.  He has been receiving a great deal of
	mail, and is quite distressed over the whole matter.  We are still
	trying to discover who posted the articles.

	-- 
	-Gary Mills-         -Networking Group-          -U of M Computer Services-

Peter
From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Phobia (was Re: The Russo-Japanese War (part 2))
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:11:08 GMT
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center

In article <1992Aug30.152021.6111@acuson.com> miklg@acuson.com (Michael Goldman ) writes:
>
>	I have had that same feeling of wanting to avoid other Americans in
>	Europe.  The reason was that once I opened up any conversation with
>	them it was hard to avoid a rather lengthy talk.  My feeling was "I
>	didn't come all this way to meet Americans!"

   Here's my naive question. Would you be able to tell the difference
between Americans and non-Americans without talking with them in Europe?

>	Arc de Triomphe in Paris, some Americans asked me where the Eiffel
>	tower was.  I pointed it out to them in my execrable French (it's
>	impossible to miss it!)  and they took me for French and so they
>	asked me the same question again in English, but much more loudly!
>	(How sweetly American :) )

   Here's a funny story about French that I'd like to share.

My wife and I drove up to Quebec in Canada last week. One night, we decided
to go to a Vietnamese restaurant for some noodle dish. We found one place
where quite a few locals were enjoying dinner. Unfortunately, our
French is more than execrable, and no one there spoke English nor Japanese.
We had to guess the words on the menu. Actually, it was not so difficult 
to guess that "nouilles" means "noodle." However, I wanted to have something
more special than usual noodle and found "grenouilles." I believed that
it was some special "nouilles" with "gre" whatever it is. Well, it was
VERY special; special enough to make my wife lose her appetite.
 
Michiaki Masuda

P.S. I'm starting to study French...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: corbet@sargon.psu.edu (Robin Corbet)
Subject: Re: Have some cash
Reply-To: corbet@sargon.psu.edu
Organization: Penn State University.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:13:36 GMT

> |   At first I too was surprised to hear that a business hotel would not
> | accept credit cards.  So I checked out a couple near me.  They don't
> | accept credit cards...

A couple of years ago my Visa card was not accepted at a business hotel
because I was a "gaijin". Japanese people were allowed to use their
credit cards though. (This was at the Sun Hotel Business Inn in
Machida).

	Robin

corbet@astro.psu.edu
From: mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: re: Area Code in Japan
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:17:44 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII
To: Daniel Yeh <dyeh@netcom.com>
Mime-Version: 1.0

I don't think 42 is an area code, but rather the first two digits of a set of
area codes near To^kyo^.  422 is Musashino-Shi, 424 is Ho^ya-Shi, both in
To^kyo^.
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From: azegami@flab.fujitsu.co.jp (Azegami Kengo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Any Japanese Pussy Available?
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:08:32 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd., Atsugi, Japan.

In article <1992Aug31.031359.12423@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mystery) writes:

>   From: umsalte2@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Mystery)
>   Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
>   Date: 31 Aug 92 03:13:59 GMT
>   Sender: news@ccu.umanitoba.ca
>   Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
>   Lines: 3
>   Nntp-Posting-Host: orwell.cc.umanitoba.ca
>
>
>
>   I really need a virgin Japanese, hightec cunt!!!!!!

This strip of line really seens to be offensive. What's wrong with
you, man??
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From: fester@etorofu.island.COM ()
Subject: Attempt on Miyazawa
Originator: fester@etorofu
Organization: Island Graphics, Marin County, California
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 20:15:00 GMT

Last night, NHK reported that an attempt was apparantly made on the life
of Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa. A man driving a small truck with 3 propane 
tanks tried to drive into Miyazawa's residence. He was stopped by police, 
whereupon he managed to set fire to the tanks. Police wrestled him to the
ground, and found a handgun with 10 rounds of ammunition on him.

Any other details?

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do. 
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