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From: yao@ee.rochester.edu (Meng Yao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: a fun problem
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:52:11 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

Now let's have something more advanced. Given 13 balls that look exactly the
same but one of the 13 balls differs in weight from the others, can you 
find out this ball by using a balance(tian1 ping2) only three times?

Meng
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From: ygu@eve.eng.uci.edu (Yifan Gu)
Subject: Re: Chinese Running Dog
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan,talk.politics.china
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 19 Dec 92 23:24:58 GMT

>Are all foreigners running dogs, or just british?

>Are all british running dogs?  

>Are Germans, Portuguese, French, Russians running dogs?  Do you
>count Marx and Lenin?

>Were the Yuean and Qing dynasties run (sorry about pun) by
>running dogs? Toba =running dogs? 

>Is Buddhism a religion of running dogs?

>(not trying to provoke anybody, just confused)

quite understandable!


No, running dogs are chinese people who serve the interests of their foreign

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
From: liaohen@cbnews.cb.att.com (Heng-Hsin Liao)
Subject: Re: DATA: largest world economies
Organization: AT&T Bell Lab
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:19:30 GMT

From article <1992Dec17.055630.3380@newstand.syr.edu>, by wchen@top.cis.syr.edu (Wayne W Chen):
> ...
>>Kind of curious, China hates (or dislikes) Imperialism. And now you
>>establish new Imperialism. Isn't it a shame?
>>
>     See, if you look at it from other people's perspective, this so
>     called "imperialism" is sometimes called "nationalism" or the
>     "liberation of the repressed population from the illegitmate
>     regime".  No shame! pal.  In politics, there is absolutely no
>     shame.

To "liberate" people without their consent? I don't see why it is not
Imperialism. That's what China did to Tibet. No shame? Tell me is that
Chinese all about?

Heng-Hsin

> 
> -Wen
> 
> 
> 
> -----
>          ***
>         (o o)           
> ----oOO--( )--OOo----------------------------------------------------------
>  Wen Chen, wchen@top.cis.syr.edu, CIS, Syracuse University, NY 315-443-4636
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (positron)
Subject: Re: What will you do if you go back China?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:21:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.185815.13129@topaz.ucq.edu.au> huangz@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
>It is not uncommon and new that students keep going back to China. As I know,
>much more than ever will go back recently. I think myself will follow up too,
>but not in these two years. I must rethink my direction as I intend to change
>my goal of obtaining forign citizenship to getting weathy and happy and ....
>
>Have you ever thought about that if you go home what you are going to do? Are
>you going to pick up a position such as professor or associate-professor? or
>set up your own business? or what else? I especially want to listen to those 
>who have already some plans or ideas in their mind, those who have been aware
>of that real chances (once only in one thousand years) have come and decided
>to catch them. 
>
>(By saying "once only in one thousand years", I mean for every country there is
>only once industralisation and modernisation, easier to become a millionare in
>this period then any other time.)
>


I agree with you in that this is a good opportunity to become rich.
My plan is to go to find a job in or near Hong Kong and wait for
1997.  When 1997 comes the real estate and stock market in 
Hong Kong will probably collapse.  I will be ready to purchase
tons of stock and prime real estate property at that time at
rock bottom prices from the spineless Chinese traitors who are
about to become refugees in a foreign land.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yao@ee.rochester.edu (Meng Yao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: DATA: largest world economies
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:34:33 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <1992Dec11.220024.16972@cs.brown.edu> cs169089@cs.brown.edu writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec10.195940.14566@wam.umd.edu>, jsxie@wam.umd.edu (A Chinese) writes:
>
>|> I highly respect your love for your hometown, because I feel the same way.
>|> 
>|> Of course, the different ticket fees, air fares are definitely unfair. But I 
>|> want to let you know: there was a train-collision accindent between Shanghai
>|> and Suzhou several years ago, each died Japanese passenger was reimbursed 
>|> about $20,000 and each died Chinese domestic passenger only RMB 2000. (RMB2000
>|> in mainland price level means more than RMB regularly means)
>|> 
>|> Hopefully, the difference will disappear soon.
>|> 
>|> I hope you don't jump out your conclusion base upon impression of several days
>|> trip. I thought there were more than 100 thousands prostitude in Taipei before
>|> I knew some friends from Taiwan. That was all because of the bias propoganda.
>|> 
>|> Take time to understand China.
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>
>	Why? Taiwan is my home. I would spend more time to understand my home.
>	Why do I have to "take time to understand" my neighbour's house?
>
>	My ancesters came from China 300 years ago. I don't deny that. But there
>	must have been some reason for them to choose to leave China and settle
>	down in Taiwan. 
>
>	Don't tell me China is my root so I have to love her. According to
>	some Anthorpologist(?), all human being originally came from Africa.
>	Do you expect me to love Africa? 
>
>	Love your own home and treat your neighbours nicely is the right way to
>	do it.
>
>
>	Ming A Taiwanese.

We should stop talking about this matter. Personal opinions don't matter.
Let the people in Taiwan make their own choice. We don't want force you
guys to return to China, if your ancestors mean nothing to you. 

Meng
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: akdag@hobo.ece.orst.edu (Ozden Akdag)
Subject: test-test
Organization: ECE Dept.,OSU,Corvallis
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:07:28 GMT

test,please ignore,please,
akdag
ozden

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hlu@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: An Old Arithmatic Problem
Organization: Washington State University!
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 08:20:00 GMT

In article <15DEC199202400198@utkvx2.utk.edu> xic@utkvx2.utk.edu (Chen, Xi) writes:
>Well, the following is an old arithmatic problem, not mathematic problem.
>
>Do you know a poker game called 24 points?  If you know it, you know the 
>rule.  There are four cards, 5, 5, 5 and 1.  Find an arithmatic expression
>using all the number once and only once to get 24.
>

I am kind of rusty. Does this count?

5 * (5 - 1 / 5)

H.J.
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: A tricky problem
Date: 16 Dec 92 06:30:29 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Can you change XXXOOO to OXOXOX with 3 moves?  You have to move 2 
adjacent pair at a time.  For example:

    XXXOOO
1.    XOOOXX                    ; XX pair moved
2.    XOO  XOX                  ; OX pair moved
3.      OXOXOX                  ; XO pair moved

Can you change XXXXOOOO to OXOXOXOX with 4 moves?
Can you change XXXXXOOOOO to OXOXOXOXOX with 5 moves?

This is a problem that I did in high school.  I remember that I got
posessed, that I solved n for up to n=12.  Later I gave a structure
method (structure=not a proof :) for any n (n>2).

It maybe more fun if I only ask answer for n=4.  It is not much fun to
find a general formula (I don't remember). I am not going to give answer
for this one.

I do like to see people give answer/summary to problem they posted
unless otherwise stated.

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Which box will you take?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:30:16 GMT

In article <009653B0.770D2CA0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>In article <BzFCzr.7s1@news.iastate.edu>, zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>In article <0096539E.3E68EB80@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>>...
>>>when you are given two boxes, the money in them has been determined. there is
>>>only one pair of numbers in this problem, not 3 numbers: 200,100,400.
>>>probability is a subset in the whole REAL events set.  
>>
>>It was not wrong to say that the possibilitie of both $400 and $100 
>>are all 50%. But we can't take the expectation value here, because 
>>ONLY ONE of the two evants can occur, if we REPEAT the process. 
>                                             ******

Let me change "can" into "could", and "REPEATE" into "REPEATED". Do you 
understand what I was saying now. Basically, I was talking about the 
same thing as you did in your last poster. If you changed your mind, then I
would reconsider my reasoning. :-) 

>are you still repeating?

No, and I never really did. :-)

>ok, let me ask you one question. I have one $100 bill and one $400, and I put
>randomly one of them in ONE box, and I give this box to you. what is expection
> value in this box?  certainly it is 100/2+400/2=250. In this case, we can say
>possibily, but we cannot in the posted case.

Sure. You are talking about different case now. We must define evants 
specifically at the very beginning.

>W.Huang --- nothing is more difficult than the few math problem.

Take them easy! (Just kidding.)
From: yao@ee.rochester.edu (Meng Yao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 1 dime + 1 quarter = 35 cents
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:54:41 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <Dec.14.18.18.17.1992.3094@soliton.rutgers.edu> zzhang@soliton.rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang) writes:
>Ok, two coins, a dime and a quarter make up 35 cent, right? Now, can you 
>make up 35 cents from two coins when one of them is not a quarter?
>ZZZ

I hope you are not asking for an answer to this question.

Meng
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (Daniel Yuen)
Subject: Re: answer to "math problem"
Organization: BHP Steel, Sheet & Coil, Research & Technology Centre
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 01:37:51 GMT

li@sce.carleton.ca (Yao Li) writes

:Since then, I received many answers. Here I list one due to
:
:>prince@ruccs.rutgers.edu (Alan Prince)  Fri, 11 Dec 92 16:17:15 EST
:>
:>Let P(y) be the polynomial in question.
:>      First, notice that, since there is one sign-change in
:>the coefficients, P(y) has AT MOST one positive zero, by the 
:>Harriot-Descartes rule of signs.
:>      Second, notice that P(0) = 1 and P(y) -> -infty as y ->
:>+infty, so that P(y) must become negative for some y>0.  Therefore
:>there is AT LEAST one positive zero. 
:>      QED.

A very elegant solution indeed !!

-- Daniel (yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: DATA: largest world economies
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:12:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.005458.9555@zip.eecs.umich.edu> cyc@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang) writes:
>Taiwan belongs to ROC and the people lived in Taiwan.
>Why Chinese are so addicted to force other people to become Chinese 
>while so many Chinese want to be American ? That's I called fuck!
You will hard time to convince we Chinese on that, you may have to hear sound ofbullets, if you refuse to listen to sound of  Chinese voice. That is all.
>
>Yi-Chieh


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.korean
From: wchen@top.cis.syr.edu (Wayne W Chen)
Subject: Re: questions of the Korean War
Organization: Syracuse University CIS Dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 03:01:18 EST

In article <1992Dec8.224818.19945@news.acns.nwu.edu>, andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim) writes:
|> 
|> One of the way that Kim survived in his position is that he was very careful
|> in play China against USSR.  In order to pull this off could he risk
|> losing support of either countries? I doubt it.  This is my conjecture,
|> but if Mao had disagree with the planned invasion of Kim vehemently,
|> I doubt that Kim would have go ahead and invaded ROK despite the
|> contrary wishes of China.

What is said in the first half of the paragraph is very much the case
after the Korean War, and especially after the Sino-Soviet conflict.
But China's involvement in the planning phase of the war, or whether
China's possition was ever seriously considered by the North Korean (NK), 
was not quite as clear as Andrew thinks.  
   After a quick review of that period of history, it appears that it's
extremely doubtful whether China was ever directly involved in planning
the war.  And it may be shown by the following facts:

1) Most North Korean important officals was installed by the Soviets.
And as a matter of fact, many NK leaders were directly transfered from
the Russian red army. (NK was a Soviet client state)

1.1) NK army was equiped by the Soviets. Most of its equipent was far 
supurior to the Chinese army during the time.  And, most NK army units
had Russian advisors before and during the first half of the war.

2) Soviet occupation of NK had effectively excluded Korea from the
Chinese sphere of influence;  events in Korea was no longer Chinese
responsibility.  (Chinese may resent the extend of Russian influence in
NK, but they just could not do anything about it at the time.)

3) Chinese was essentially preoccupied with their plan to invade Taiwan
and other numerouse territories.  Chinese was in no possition to even
think of the participation of any international conflict.

4) Chinese embassy to NK was established after the break off of the war
(nearly a year of the establishment of Communist government in China),
with very limited personel and equipment.  This just shows how much
interest, or lack of it, Chinese had in Korean politics.

(many are paraphrased from Russell Spurr's book "Enter the Dragon")

   China got itself into the war after the collapse of the NK army
partly because of the miscommunication between China and the US, the 
pressure from Russia, and Mao's ambition to swiftly win an international
recognition, thru a very wierd way as it may seem, of China's political
and military might.
   All the participants suffered terribly during the war.  This just
shows how dirty international politics can be.
From: pwu@ai.mit.edu (Peng Wu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Always...  (Was 35 cents)
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:39:13
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
	<92349.193026TAYAO@MTUS5.BITNET>
NNTP-Posting-Host: portofino.ai.mit.edu
In-reply-to: Tao Yao's message of Monday, 14 Dec 1992 19:30:26 EST

    From: Tao Yao <TAYAO@MTUS5.BITNET>
    
    Here we go. Two coins are one dime and one quarter. one of them is a dime, and
    not a quarter.
    
    P.S. SCC need more posts like this question to calm down a little.


Time: dinner time.   Scene: kitchen.   A & B: roommates.  

...clink...clank...thump...beep...

A: Are you heating that meat loaf in the micro wave without cover?

B: Ya.  Every body at my office heating food that way and food heats faster.

A: But it will explode...

B: No, there is no fa... 

  	            "Boom, BOOM!!!"  The loaf cuts in.

A: Oh oh...(look into the MV oven)...what a mess, I just cleaned it.

B: I'll clean it up.  Why didn't you stop me earlier!?

A: ...

B: We never had explosion like that at office.

A: ...

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: shao@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SHAO CHUNG-SHANG)
Subject: Re: DATA: largest world economies
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:04:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.212222.15891@cs.brown.edu> cs169089@cs.brown.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.200259.9934@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, shao@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SHAO CHUNG-SHANG) writes:
>
>|> >
>|> no, for your dream.  'ROC' appears on my passport that is the formal
>|> document.  it is the name of my country.  it is the fact.
>		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>|> 
>|> cs shao.
>|> 
>
>
>	Yes, it may be true. But ROC does not represent China. PROC
>	represents China. This IS the fact.
>
correction: what you said is the mainland china. 
it may be a fact, but will it?

cs shao.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mirsip@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Ivan Popstefanija)
Subject: Re: An Old Arithmatic Problem
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:44:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.194437.14870@risky.ecs.umass.edu> mirsip@risky.ecs.umass.edu (Ivan Popstefanija) writes:
>In article <15DEC199202400198@utkvx2.utk.edu> xic@utkvx2.utk.edu (Chen, Xi) writes:
>>Well, the following is an old arithmatic problem, not mathematic problem.
>>
>>Do you know a poker game called 24 points?  If you know it, you know the 
>>rule.  There are four cards, 5, 5, 5 and 1.  Find an arithmatic expression
>>using all the number once and only once to get 24.
>
>5*(5-1/5)
>
>Good day!

For the hack of it, here is another one: 7, 7, 3, 3
Easy, hum? A table has four corners, cut one corner and how many left?
I feel like 5-year-old now!

>>Rule:  for the people who do not know the game, the following is the rule:
>>The arithmatic operations are limited to add, substract, multiplication 
>>and division in decimal system.  There is no binary operations, no power,
>>no abstract algebra.  I do not have a big math vocabulary, but the criterion
>>for the correct answer is that your answer should be able to convince others
>>that the student in the third grade of elementary school should know how
>>to calculate it.
>>
>>I hope to see some correct answer.  If there is no correct answer posted,
>>I will post the answer to the net tomorrow.
>>
>>Have fun.  
>
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: gang@ms.uky.edu (Gang Li)
Subject: Re: NEWS: Survey Article of Chinese Economy
    <1992Dec13.032829.12146@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> 
    <1992Dec14.042007.10457@netcom.com>
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:54:50 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

alm@netcom.com (Andrew Moore) writes:

>In article <1992Dec13.032829.12146@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> fengxi@prancer.eche.ualberta.ca (Fengxi Zhou) writes:
>>I am sure you have heard of National Security Agency (Authority?) or NSA but
>>didn't relate it to your question. NSA is responsible for electronic information
>>gathering, including monitoring communication and saterlite photo, etc. It is
>>arguably the biggest intitution in US intelligence community but has a much
>>lower profile than CIA for good reasons. It would be no surprise to me if they
>>monotor the net traffic. This is much easier than monitor conversation off the
>>air, don't you think? And this way, they can compile info about every netter's
>>political tendency, etc, without the need of huge manpower. NSA has been among
>>the first users of the latest super computers for long time. They have more
>>tricks of identifying friend and foe up in their sleeves than we can think of.

My God! I give up. See you next generation. Have a nice fun net day!
From: ezez@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (008)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Airticket On Sale
Keywords: Airticket, On Sale
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:15:47 GMT
Organization: Clarkson University

lines: 20
 
		Airticket On Sale(OBO)
		
                  American Airline

Jan. 14, 1993  	LV: San Jose	12:55p
		AR: Chicago	07:24p

Jan. 14, 1993 	LV: Chicago	08:15p
		AR: Syracuse    11:02p

If you want it, Pls. contact ezez@sun.soe.clarkson.edu. 
He will say "Have Good Holiday!"
From: yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Is Chairman Mao God?
Summary: He is a devil
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:39:50 GMT
Reply-To: yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <313.9212151719@subnode.bradford.ac.uk> 90908648@bradford.ac.uk writes:
>
>This is a serious qeustion, not a joke. Just imagine,
>Chairman Mao was born on 26 December! One day after
>Jesus was born! Was it merely coincidence? Doubtful.
>Although both of them are dead, they always live in 
>people's hearts! Everywhere we see their pictures! Read their
>instructions! Lots of songs and peoms are devoted to them!
>Both of them are revered! When a SCC get exited, s/he would say:
>"I can swear before Chairman Mao!" Cab drivers in Beijing
>hang a mini-portrait of Mao in front of them to deter evils.
>I am seriously considering hanging one in my room.
> 

Mao is a human being, who caused tens of thousands people living a dog's
life. He is not god definitely. He fooled millions of people to the
extend that they think he is the God. How sad the story is. The revival
of the Mao in mainland now, I think, is a tragedy, a real tragedy. It
reflects the emptiness of the people's mind and the irresponsibility to
their own future. I am quite pessimistic about the "Spring of China"
with majority of people still being fooled around by Mao after the
Cultural Revolution ordeal. Maybe we need a whole new generation
before democracy finally comes to our homeland.
  - Guo-Xiang
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Fan Yu)
Subject: Re: about that explosion in the microwave 
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, McMaster University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:40:20 GMT

In article <BzEyEv.5x2@nic.umass.edu> s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203) writes:
>In article <BzDtFK.FuM@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec17.013018.4752@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Fan Yu) writes:
>>>I once was warming up a boiled egg in the microwave and it exploded.
>>>The sound was, boy, frightening. When I started to use microwave I
>
>I had exactly same experience as yours. I guess it is becuase there is
>some air between dan4huang2 and dan4qing1 and the air is heated to
>inflate quickly.
>
It's perhaps because the water inside the egg yellow(is it the way to say it?)
evaporates.

FY

From: ding@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com (Ignatius Ding)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:31:03 GMT
Subject: Encouraging Info.
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Chinese Running Dog
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:06:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.021822.627@Virginia.EDU> jmw4a@Virginia.EDU ("John/Chuck Wooldridge") writes:
>Are all foreigners running dogs, or just british?
>
>Are all british running dogs?  
>
>Are Germans, Portuguese, French, Russians running dogs?  Do you
>count Marx and Lenin?
>
>Were the Yuean and Qing dynasties run (sorry about pun) by
>running dogs? Toba =running dogs? 
>
>Is Buddhism a religion of running dogs?
>
>(not trying to provoke anybody, just confused)
Condiation for being a Running Dog:
1. He/She should have a master;
2. He/She serves the master in defiance of the interests of his/her
compatriots;
I guess you are not "qualified" for being in the catagory, do not worry.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: 1 dime + 1 quarter = 35 cents
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:15:37 GMT

In article <Dec.14.18.18.17.1992.3094@soliton.rutgers.edu> zzhang@soliton.rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang) writes:
>Ok, two coins, a dime and a quarter make up 35 cent, right? Now, can you 
>make up 35 cents from two coins when one of them is not a quarter?
>ZZZ
I've a vague memory that I heard the question before or is this just is
a dream. One of them is not a quarter, yet the other one still can be a
quarter.

Tingli Pan