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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: CFD: alt.music.machines.of.loving.grace,alt.pop.will.eat.itself
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:47:51 GMT

pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Me) writes:

>I would like to create alt.music.machines.of.loving.grace.  They aren't my
>favorite group, and I really don't listen to them that much, but I feel that
>if Enya deserves her own group, Machines of Loving Grace deserve one too.
>After that, we can create:
>alt.music.pop.will.eat.itself
>for discussion of PWEI
>alt.music.pop.will.eat.itself.the.poppies.are.on.patrol
>for discussion of PWEI fashion accessories
>and of course:
>alt.music.pop.will.eat.itself.X.Y.&.Z.electric.sunshine.mix
>for discussing my favorite mix of this PWEI song.
>If this CFD fails, I'll create the groups anyway.  Just like alt.music.enya.

Several morons mailed me about the last line.  Apparently my sarcasm and
displeasure over the creation of alt.music.enya was not clear.  Then on top of
that, someone issued forgeries (most likely a particular moron who didn't
appreciate my flames back) to make it look like I had gone ahead and created
the groups.

I've issued rmgroups and everyone is free inspect the difference in the
headers.

What I'm upset about is the continual creation of specific SPECIFIC interest
groups under alt.  Someone buys a new album, really likes it, and instead of
taking it upon themselves to create a MAILING LIST, feels that the entire
world would benefit from another damn newsgroup.  So they throw it out for
discussion and when the rest of the world tells them how stupid it is, they
create it anyway.
-- 
     James Brown, Mark Hosler, Al Jourgenson.  Coincidence or conspiracy?

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
Pete Ashdown  pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com  ...uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!pashdown
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya
From: RCARR00@ricevm1.rice.edu (Rick Carroll)
Subject: Re: Music for Legend
Organization: Rice University, Houston, TX
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 05:07:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.020739.651@leland.Stanford.EDU>
moire@leland.Stanford.EDU (Connie Chin) writes:

>
>I'm just dying from curiosity! I watched a movie called "Legend" long ago
>and I do believe Enya had a song or two in this movie but I can't remember
>what they were.  If you know, please e-mail me.
>
>Thanks and sorry is this question was already posted but I read over 50
>postings and no cigar.
>
>Connie
>
Bzzzzzt.  The music for Legend <in the US release> was done by Tangerine
Dream and included a song by Jon Anderson <of Yes fame>.  The Clannad
album Legend contained the music Clannad wrote for the Showtime series
Robin Hood: The Legend.

RIC
Xref: sparky alt.music.enya:57 alt.config:2988
From: rjc@cstr.ed.ac.uk (Richard Caley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya,alt.config
Subject: Re: I am creating an Enya mailing list
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:26:02 GMT
	<BJORN.92Apr13151627@Minsk.docs.uu.se>
	<1992Apr13.212413.2263@amhux2.amherst.edu>
	<BJORN.92Apr15000352@Minsk.docs.uu.se>
Organization: Centre for Speech Technology Research


Data point.

Either there is some weird distribution bug preventing messages
getting here or there have been no Enya related messages in
alt.music.enya. Lots of tedius argument over whether the group should
exist though.

Or have I misinterpreted the name of the group, is it some kind of
joke about self-reference.

--
rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk			_O_
					 |<
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya
From: aiden@NCoast.ORG (Steven Otlowski)
Subject: Re: Clannad
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:29:24 GMT

I really like Clannad's Music, especially the early stuff.
Clannad, Clannad II, Fuaim, Macalla, etc.

Their later stuff is not nearly as good (IMHO), but then again, I am really a 
fan of Irish Traditional Music.  What they did was really wonderful.
More, updated traditional music
rather than what they do now which is more Traditionally inspired rock music.
Not that it's not good, just that I thought their older work was more
unique and stood out inits field far more than their recent stuff ie Sirius, etc

If you like Irish Traditional Music, you should like the early stuff.

If you're looking for something more contemporary, the new stuff.

Then there's Enya, none of the above.   But I like it.
I particularly like her version of "How can I keep from singing."

have fun,

Steve Otlowski
aiden@ncoast.org
From: rod@cats.ucsc.edu (Rodrick Su)
Newsgroups: alt.music.enya
Subject: Enya is planning to go on tour
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:20:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.33075
Organization: Tigana Restoration Inc.


	Just finish watching `Good Morning America' on ABC.  Enya stated
	in the interview that she wants to get back to doing tour, as
	soon as she figures out how to do it.

-- 
[ Rodrick Su           ]<----------------------------------------------------] 
[--------------------->[ `Belief is a concept that Ring does not believe in.']
[ rod@cats.ucsc.edu    ]----------------------->[ ``Emerald Eyes''           ] 
[ rod@ucscb.ucsc.edu   ]----------------------->[   Danield Keys Moran       ]
From: eg1n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eli Brian Goldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Alexander/Fish concert...
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:33:20 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

BTW, I don't know if it was mentioned, but the tape (tapes?) from the concert
will be available in under a month from now (Yikes!  Talk about FAST
TURNAROUND!!!) from FAM...

Margaruite (SP?),

   Filk is merely poetry put to music.  Filkers always welcome filk-themed
poetry.  In fact, you'll find a lot of folks recommend that folks who simply
can't sing anywhere near on key read poetry or read songs as poetry rather
than butcher the song.  I have a habit of walking out on people who try to perform
songs when they've not only not learned how to sing, but they've never even
heard the song before... :-)

Peter:  (I think...)

   I'm not sure if you were kidding by saying that if it sounds good, it ain't
filk, but if you weren't, I strongly suggest that you immediately proceed
to call up Thor Records or Firebird Arts and Music and order a filk tape or ten.The only filk that doesn't sound good are from filkers who don't
put in the effort (for whatever reasons, in many cases, most filkers have
lives, so they can't afford spending 2-3 hours a day working on their voice
and an instrument.) to sound good --- and that's it.
From: Deborah.Weiss@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Deborah Weiss)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Medieval/Renaissance Music Tapes (Part 2)
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 00:20:16 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:102/524 - StormGate Aerie, Los Angeles CA

(Medieval music continued -- Part 2)
 
Pilgrim's Journey
Performed by Gai Saber
(p) 1988 Gai Saber
"A Pilgrim's Journey Music of Medieval Spain."  Don't often come
across this type of music.  Shows the Moorish influence in early
Spanish music.  Very authentic.  A good listen.
 
Past Times Present
Performed by Carole Koenig
(c) 1987 Carole Koenig
Selections/dances from *Terpsichore* by Michael Praetorious
(written in 1641) plus other earlier pieces.  Arranged for hammered
dulcimer with other accompanying instruments.  Appropriate to
period.  Nice listening.
 
Legacy of the Scottish Harpers
Performed by Robin Williamson
(c) 1984 Robin Williamson
Distributed by Flying Fish Records, Inc.
Scottish folk tunes played on wire-strung harp.  I *love* harp
music, esp. Celtic/Scottish.  Robin has recorded several fine tapes
of this type of music plus some fine storytelling tapes.
Definitely a Master Bard!
 
Dream of the Troubadour
Performed by Richard Searles & Gilbert Yslas
(c) 1989 Sundown Records
"Instrumental Renaissance Music Performed On Guitars."  Lovely
guitar work & very period musical selections.  Another favorite.
Artists are SoCal locals and can be seen at fairs marketing their
tapes.
 
Dance of the Renaissance
Performed by Richard Searles & Gilbert Yslas
(c) 1988 Sundown Records
Renaissance music performed on various instruments with focus on
guitars.  Again very nice arrangements & performances.  Another
favorite.
 
Most of the tapes listed above and in the previous post can be
found at DAG Tapes & Records in Santa Monica.  Eric Gerds can be
found at most local science fiction and gaming cons plus he does
mail order.  He also sells SCA-type musical tapes.  Wail Songs of
Oakland, CA also has an excellent selection of folk & medieval
music.  See previous postings of filk sources & resources for
address info.
 
(continued)



--  

Deborah Weiss
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Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: lnz@lucid.com (Leonard N. Zubkoff)
Subject: Re: Hope Eyrie incarnate
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 18:59:22 GMT

This is Joey Shoji visiting Leonard Zubkoff and Lola McCrary (I don't normally
have usenet or fido access)...

Hi Joe (and all)!

Long time no see and stuff.  Anyway . . .

Hearing different versions of songs is definitely great fun -- recording
(echoing Mary's question) around somewhere?  Also, I'm pleased to see filkers
willing to take new directions and chances in music/filk.  Kathy Mar in general
and Jane Mailander's "Unicorn Rap" (right title?) come immediately to mind.

Group performance vs. group singing.  The former really needs rehearsal if the
point is to do a concert.  What I mean by "group singing" in this context is
more than the assembled filkers singing in unison (or with the random harmony)
at a filksing, rather like a chorus, with pre-determined melody and harmony
parts.  I'd love to see this sort of thing happen from time to time and I think
it may be on the horizon.  The Mark Bernstein/Mike McGonagle version of "Green
Hills of Earth" is in sheet music form and will hopefully be distributed and
sung everywhere.  There've been some other songs published with the parts
transcribed, but none come to mind at the moment.  Of course, we've got
filksongs that are being instinctively harmonized to/with and the results are
often gorgeous.  And then there are people like me who force acquaintances and
friends to learn existing songs in harmony (like "Reluctant Freedom" by Gail
Pittaway and Sheila Willis, as performed by Technical Difficulties) -- Larry
Warner and Mary Ellen O'Cain may forgive me someday.  Still, I get a kick out
of being able to spontaneously sing with people in close harmony (barbershop
quartet filk anyone?).

Lastly, I agree that encouraging everyone (neos and old-timers) can only be a
positive pursuit.

"On Wings of Song",   Joey
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: Bob.Hirschfeld@p2.f74.n114.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Hirschfeld)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Fellow Travelers
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 09:28:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:114/74.2 - Nat'l. Congress For, Phoenix AZ

Brought your offensive "friends" along to this echo to amuse me? How nice. They aren't "safe" on this public echo either.


--  

Bob Hirschfeld
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From: Mike.Liebmann@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Liebmann)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: RenFaire involvement
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 07:54:16 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:102/524 - StormGate Aerie, Los Angeles CA

Devi, you could go one day and join Friends of Faire (pay your ticket, 
then go to FoF booth and join).  Tell them you'd like to help out, 
and they'll see about getting you gate listed. 



--  

Mike Liebmann
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From: v116r8ac@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Chris Nasipak)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Something I found a while ago in a stack of old printouts
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:24:00 GMT
Organization: United Nations Intelligence Taskforce
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

No, I didn't write it, and I don't know who did.  If you can find
him/her/it/them, let them take the blame.

---  BEGIN  ---

Bravely Bold Sir Redshirt
Beamed down from Enterprise.
He was not afraid to die
O Brave Sir Redshirt!
He was not at all afraid to be killed in nasty ways.
Brave, brave, brave, Brave Sir Redshirt!

He was not in the least bit scared to be mashed into a pulp.
Or to die by phaser blast
with an eel in his ear.
To have his body crushed
in a little plastic cube
And his salt all sucked away,
Brave Sir Redshirt.

His blodd sucked out,
and his cells implode,
and his body cut up 
for a robot form
And his skin boiled off
in the Engine Room,
and his penis --

Kirk: Shut up, Ensign.



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Do you really feel like    |         Not Croaker           |Somewhere else, the
arguing with a can of      |                               |tea is getting cold.
deoderant that registers   | v116r8ac@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu |Come on - we've got
nine on the Richter Scale? |   nasipak@acsu.buffalo.edu    | work to do.
        --- Ace            |                               |  --- Doctor Who
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"I wasn't expecting the ReichsInspektor General."  -- General Strasser
"No One expects the Reichsinspektor General." -- Doctor Who, TimeWyrm:Exodus
From: Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: It's ENS Clampett!!  He's Jed, Jim????
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 14:01:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/120 - TIDMADT, Alexandria VA

 BT> Or even Ensign Jethro... He's Dim, Jed!!!

Actually, the phrase has been used.  There was a musical (filkical?), "The Phantom of the RG", put on at a Mensa Regional Gathering.  To make a long story short, in the end The Phantom got stuck by a thorn of a rose that would reduce the victim's IQ (the deepest innate fear of Mensa members), and some waved a tricorder over him and reported as above.



--  

Dave Aronson
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From: eg1n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eli Brian Goldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Cranes/Mooses/Cows
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:46:16 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mike:

   I was in Vermont in the late 80's, and before that, I was living in cyber-
space.  No, I haven't heard the story behind Moose/Cow.  What is it....?

   I've heard Jaguar when I was sitting in a person's office (Good workstations
have CD-ROMS which have been modified by plugging an amplifier into the audio
port... :-) --- Suffice it to say, I was extremely disappointed in that the
majority of the music felt remarkably bland to me.  Then again, when consideringthat Small's previous CD was _I Will Stand Fast_, probabalistically, how on
Earth could he have topped it?  Not too likely! :-)  When's his next CD
coming out?  (Talk about leaving masters sitting around in the closet before
production... :-)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: figmo@borland.com (Lynn Gold)
Subject: Group filk (was Re: Hope Eyrie incarnate)
Organization: The Burn the Candle at Both Ends Club
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:34:18 GMT

In article <9596.29E3781D@ofa123.fidonet.org> Mary.Creasey@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Mary Creasey) writes:
>I agree about getting groups together for rehearsal; that's how Tera 
>Mitchel, Sandra Klienschmitt, and I got on _The Filk Rolls In_. We 
>rehearsed a four-song set for about 3 months, weekly. However, I refer 
>you to Technical Difficulties' first theme song (the Handel one) for the 
>main problem for groups (at least out here; I don't know about the 
>MidWest)--getting together. 

We manage to make TBA* work by setting aside at least one afternoon/
evening a week (almost always Sunday) to rehearse.  When one of us has
a scheduling conflict, we try to let the others know in advance so we
can (hopefully) reschedule the rehearsal.  Until recently, I worked on
weekends and was usually the one we had to schedule around; now that
it's spring, Fred keeps getting asked to haul his truck here and
there, so we have to keep tabs on him.

>Next ConChord (think you could make it, Joe?) there'll be a 
>big group number; the various persons are practicing to a tape of one of 
>our first rehearsals. It's better than nothing.

Just curious:  who's in the "group?"

--Lynn
From: olson@husc8.harvard.edu (Chip Olson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Song query: about building a computer
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:45:26 GMT
Organization: Spam-On-A-Rope Inc.

Hi all;

A few years back, a friend of mine sang me a few verses of a long filk
about building a computer.  The only part I can remember is the last two 
lines:

"And when you flip the power switch, it's sure to dim the lamps
With plus or minus 40 volts and 15,000 amps"

Any clue who wrote it and (more importantly) how the rest of it goes?

many thanks,
--
-Chip Olson. | olson@husc.harvard.edu | ceo@gnu.ai.mit.edu (seldom used)
"So come all ye lovers of the Good Life, your children playing in the sun,
And set a sympathetic flag a-flying, and be there when the Dutchman comes..."
                                      -Jethro Tull, "Flying Dutchman"
From: Joel.Polowin@p4.f106.n249.z1.fidonet.org (Joel Polowin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Too Many Books...
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 18:40:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:249/106.4 - Fowl Weather Post, Kingston ON

In a message of <10 Apr 92>, Sherman Dorn writes to Joel Polowin:

 JP>> My first attempt at original filk.  I'm middlin' pleased with it.

 SD> Now, if I can only find the rhythm on it . . .

Well, the verses are fairly straight 4/4.  The chorus, on the other hand... I'm not sure how to assign it, but you can probably get a good feel for it from "Little Tin Box", from _Fiorello_, which I was trying not to be too close to.


--  

Joel Polowin
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Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: cox@kiska.unocal.com (Bill Cox (contractor))
Subject: Filk Archive
Originator: cox@kiska
Organization: Unocal Science and Technology Division, Anaheim, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:57:17 GMT

I tried to FTP from grind.iccaen.uiowa.edu, in the
info/humor area, and found it inaccessable.  Could
the person responsible for setting it up (who marked
the area as 'under construction', please let us know
in the alt.music.filk newsgroup when construction is
complete?

Thanks in advance.
From: Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: USENET
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 13:50:46 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:109/120 - TIDMADT, Alexandria VA

 KS> One thing that stands out above all else is the fact that the
 KS> different definitions of moderator in usenet and 
 KS> FIDOnet are going to cause problems.

Yes, I've noticed that when describing, in a Usenet newsgroup, my position as moderator in an analogous echo.

 KS> So we need a new term to use for describing this thing to usenet.
 KS> "Designated Topic Cop" has been suggested;

That doesn't include the fact that you can kick out a user, or even an entire board.  Maybe net.lordhigheverythingelse, since although you can order a feed cut, you don't do it yourself?  Or maybe this should be abbreviated to net.poobah?

(Say, I think I like that.  I'll forward this post to that other group.)


--  

Dave Aronson
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From: petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: What is filk?
Date: 13 Apr 92 06:55:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CS Dept. Oregon State University, Corvallis, Oregon.

I am new to this newsgroup and as the subject says I am curious as
to just what constitutes "filk".  I have read some of the postings
and I realize that some are songs written as parodies, others as
fairly *serious*?   Others are written to *popular* and sometimes
not so popular melodies.  I guess what I really want to know is
if poetry written as Shakespearean Sonnets with a Star Trek Theme
would be appropriate here.  They aren't songs but I wondered if
they fit the *genre* discussed in this newsgroup.

The reason I ask is because I have written 9 such sonnets and am
wondering if anyone would be interested in them.

Thanks for your time.

Marg
petersm@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
a.k.a. Elvira
From: eg1n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eli Brian Goldberg)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
Subject: Tom Lehrer and other stuff...
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:38:42 GMT
Organization: Freshman, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

--- The ST:TNG Star Trekking was originally posted here a month or two ago.
If I can find it, I'll repost it.  Sorry.

--- Tom Lehrer has a songbook, _Too Many Songs_, which has the words/chords
and music to _The Elements Song_ (or whatever the name is!).  If I posted
them, not only would I have to have them myself, but I'd be violating copyright
laws, and thus, would bring the Wrath of the Moderator (tm) (R) on me.
I know Firebird Arts and Music has it, at 1-800-752-0494.
(BTW, Kay --- do the rules file specifically state, "Don't post a song unless
you have been given direct permission from the writer, or if you KNOW that
he/she/it has given blanket permission to do so."?  It might be of use in the
future...)
Newsgroups: alt.music.filk
From: dmoskowi@jarthur.claremont.edu (Denis/Tesser Morris Moskowitz)
Subject: Re: Schroedinger's Cat
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 05:45:11 GMT

I wanted to point out immediately that this rhyming explanation of
Schrodinger's Cat was written by Cecil Adams and was published in the
book "The Straight Dope", which is a compilation of Mr. Adams' columns.

-- 
Denis/Tesser M Moskowitz        Jen feroca malbona kuniklo; rigardu liajn
dmoskowi@jarthur.claremont.edu  sovagxajn vangharojn, kaj liajn ungojn kaj
This Is Realtime!               lian faldan voston.