HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mimir@hardy.u.washington.edu (Al Billings)
Subject: Re: VIRUS 23 No. $
Organization: The Friends of Loki Society
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:24:59 GMT

In article <DLgauB2w165w@sizone.UUCP> virus23@sizone.UUCP (Darren Wershler-Henry) writes:
>VIRUS 23 No. $
>
>$7.00 from:
>
>BOX 46
>RED DEER, ALBERTA
>CANADA  T4N 5E7

 IS this $7 american or canadian?
From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Re: Nazis International
Date: 18 Nov 1992 03:17:58 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Keywords: nazis, racism, anti-semitism, pez
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

In article <BxvByt.MCo@nic.umass.edu> quilty@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Humberto Humbertoldi) writes:
>I, for one, certainly do not advocate ANY censorship on these boards,
>or anywhere else.  Of course any "fool" should be ALLOWED to post in such
>bad taste, and with such inadequate literary pinache, I just wish s/he
>would show a little more intelligence of her/his own volition.  

I am certainly not one to tell him he can't post something like that here
or anywhere, but being responsible for answering to criticism is required,
IMHO.  I would be delighted to have all such crawl out of the woodwork to
be politically hammered on in the daylight.

>I'm half seriously considering outright boycotting all
>moderated boards on principle.

They have their purposes, but I think they are better suited to purely
administrative "official announcement" type of concerns.


Paul Southworth                    |           ftp ftp.css.itd.umich.edu
(Not speaking for)                 |         Political Archives in /poli
Information Technology Division    |     Writable incoming directory on:
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  <Representing myself.  Everything I say is for educational use only.>
Newsgroups: alt.zines,rec.mag
From: thud@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Ted Thibodeau Jr)
Subject: Re: F5-E subscriptions
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:43:33 GMT


If I may be so bold as to try to interpret the words of others, and
to put forth my own two cents --

The question is whether to send out updates in small chunks or in
one huge blob.  My vote is for small chunks -- but not in the fashion
described!

It sounds as if the planned options are to:
   a)	send out the entire F5-E when it has all been updated, with
	every review section included, in *one* mail message.
or b)	send out entire review sections when they have been updated,
	each as they are, with no regard to sending a "complete" zine.

I submit option "c", to wit: Send out *new* reviews as updates; keep
the complete sections *with updates* intact and ftpable, as well as a
set of updates intact and ftpable (perhaps monthly update batch files).

My reasoning is this:  Most of the reviews I have seen in F5 and F5-E
are of a zine as a whole; not individual issues. Thus, there is going
to be a steadily increasing number of reviews in each section, many of
which will be identical to the reviews issued in the previous update.

I prefer to know what are updated reviews and what are reruns by their
separation in filing (and mailing) than by stars by the zine title, or
similar visual mechanism, which still requires me to scan the entire
review section.

This option will also lower the net.traffic, as only the *necessary*
new information will go to folks who have read the old sections, and
anyone who is new to the zine can either ftp the old sections, or request
them through a similar mechanism as is now in place.

Just a thought, but it seems to me that it makes sense....

Thud

-- 
   Ted Thibodeau, Jr    a/k/a    Thud, Fyodor Ilyich Lobachevsky, Zamel
       61 Marion Street       Medford, MA  02155        617-395-9915
** Crash & Burn for Democracy! ** A Pan of Fudge in Every Fridge, and a **
*** Yerazunis for President! **** Net Connection in Every Living Room!! **
Newsgroups: alt.zines,rec.mag,alt.music.hardcore,alt.music.alternative,alt.politics.libertarian,alt.pulp,alt.thrash,alt.homosexual,alt.slack,alt.cyberpunk,alt.pagan,rec.music.industrial
From: Thomas Gramstad <thomas@smaug.uio.no>
Subject: Amazons International
Reply-To: thomas@smaug.uio.no
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:23:49 GMT

Amazons International is an electronic digest newsletter for
and about Amazons (physically and psychologically strong,
assertive women who are not afraid to break free from
traditional ideas about gender roles, femininity and the
female physique) and their friends and lovers.  Amazons
International is dedicated to the image of the female hero in
fiction and in fact, as it is expressed in art and
literature, in the physiques and feats of female athletes,
in sexual values and practices, and provides information,
discussion and a supportive environment for these values and
issues.  Gender role traditionalists and others who are
opposed to Amazon ideals should not subscribe.

 *********************************************************
 *  Amazons International:         thomas@smaug.uio.no   *
 *  Thomas Gramstad, editor                              *
 *********************************************************
   "A Hard Woman is Good to Find"  -- The Valkyries
Xref: sparky alt.zines:252 alt.music.alternative:15844
From: mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie (Nascent Virion.....)
Newsgroups: alt.zines,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Prometheus: Just another Zine.
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:48:50 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin



Yes from Dublin Ireland there is another 'Zine.
It is called Prometheus. It deals with basically 
anything under the sun, but Issue 1 was basically:

PROMETHEUS: In the Flat Field(Issue #1)

Music: Ministry(Paslm '69 reviewed) 
       Christian Death(A remembrance)
       Whipping Boy(Live review)
       Babes in Toyland(Fontannelle review)

Films: Alien 3 (a bit dated now)
       Pump Up the Voume(Video release)

Misc.:
       Shavers
       Masturbation
       Article on extreme price of CD's.

The first issue was limited to about 50 copies
which got sold in about 2 hours in Dublin, which we were
rather impressed with. Anyhow. We need more articles...
If there is much of an interest Prometheus(issue one) can be obtained by 
snail mail to 

Prometheus
c/o John Mc Donagh
57 Kincora Drive
Clontarf
Dublin 3
Ireland.

It is about US$2 or UK$1. 

PS All articles are welcome... A high likelihood of being used in Future
issues so these can be e-mailed to morpheus@maths.tcd.ie with subject:
Prometheus.

Thanks in advance.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
-John Mc Donagh.                   ~~                         {Nascent Virion}
mcdonghj@unix2.tcd.ie              ~~         "I dress my tears in costumes.."
				   ~~
"Flowers in your kitchen, they weep for you
 I'm gonna shred them all to pieces, like I did to you " FotN
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: bladex@wixer.cactus.org (David Smith)
Subject: Re: Scriba Communis Responsi
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 05:09:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.175352.6794@ugle.unit.no> gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abr
ahamsen) writes:
>Hiya!
>
>I'm the editor of a disk-magazine on the Atari ST, and I have
>decided to let it go on-line in ASCII format. Would this be the right place to

>post it?
>
>/Gard
>


The only answer is maybe.  What is the content of your publication?  Whazz it
about?  My suggestion is that you cross-post it here, as well as to any other
newsgroup that follow the same thematic markers.

-- 
  bladex@wixer.cactus.org           |              Cyberlicious Software
 "I think cyberpunk is the latest attempt by American hipsters to escape
the squalid intellectual environment that surrounds them.  This is not a
bad goal."  Karl Myers, Talking Raven 
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: lohrbt@rs6210.ecs.rpi.edu (Trevor Wolfgang Lohrbeer)
Subject: Conversations on a Raft
Reply-To: lohrbt@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:49:22 GMT

I guess I should announce this here:

                          Conversations on a Raft
                           c/o: Trevor Lohrbeer
                             2321 16th Street
                           Troy, New York 12180

Send me something, talk to me, anything: you'll get a copy.

It's about life and art and living.  An experiment in living.  No music reviews.
No reviews at all. Experimental artwork (Exquisite Corpse, Image Poetry, Other
Stuff). Poetry, writings, erotica. Stuff people have written to me in letters.
Stuff I've read in books. Proverbs, quotes. Things to make you think about your
life more.  It's a way to make you happier and more content with your life.

It's issue four and this may be the last issue. Another zine, another time, 
another place. That sort of thing. If you want stuff in the zine, send me it
as soon as possible. I'm finishing it up this weekend.

                                               - Trevor Lohrbeer
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: jph@hardy.u.washington.edu (Jeff Hanson)
Subject: Re: Nazis International
Keywords: nazis, racism, anti-semitism, pez
Organization: Hardly any
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:49:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.054410.24701@news.acns.nwu.edu> hrow@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Heath Row) writes:
>OK. A couple of things. Working as a journalist, I wrote an article for
>tomorrow's paper about the distribution of some revionist anti-semitic
>literature to the German and history departments at a local college. After
>talking to a couple revisionists, I did not find this posting at all funny.
>I realize it was probably meant to be a joke following up to the amazon
>thang but still... open mind and all, I did not find it funny. At all.
>

	I thought it was funny and thought provoking.  It made me look
at the original posting in a different light.
From: virus23@sizone.UUCP (Darren Wershler-Henry)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: VIRUS 23 No. $
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 11:20:48 EST
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552

VIRUS 23 No. $

$7.00 from:

BOX 46
RED DEER, ALBERTA
CANADA  T4N 5E7

"Wild ideas abound on the margins, and sometimes they coalesce into one 
heap of weird stuff.  One such is VIRUS 23, full of Hilbert space and 
Thee Temple Ov Psychick Youth and the New Age and strange drugs and 
shamanism and more.  They cover cyberpunk and Crowley with equal elan, 
invesitgate brain machines and reprint the weirder bits of mainstream 
news they run across.  They also discuss the joys of fake news, throwing 
their own memes into the growing pool of disinformation that surrounds 
us."

--MIKE GUNDERLOY & CARI GOLDBERG JANICE, _The World of Zines_, p. 11.


The A.D.o.S.A. (Alberta Dept. of Spiritual Affairs) is proud to announce 
that VIRUS 23 No. $ (that's right, $, not 4) is now available.  
sandwiched between its immaculate perfect-bound covers you get 69 pages 
of the following:

-Articles on the Twentysomething/Generation X/Slacker phenomenon:
        -Enslaved by the Reality Blur
        -When Flower Power Turns to Compost
        -Thalidomide, the Super-Soldier, and Me
        -Generation X & American Psycho reviewed

-Articles on Weirdo Canadian film (& filmmakers):
        -Strangled by an Intestine! (Guy Maddin interview)
        -Making Movies in 2 Dimensions (Brian Stockton & Brett Bell 
         --makers of Wheat Soup--interviewed)
        -Angst and Dread (Gerald Saul interview)

-Articles on fringe music:
        -Regionalism, Wave Pools & God (Rose McDowell--of Current 93, 
         Strawberry Switchblade, Death In June, etc.--interviewed)
        -the loved one Stomp Through the Rock World and Hurl

-Articles on (post)cyberpunk:
        -Turbulent Ironies (Jack Womack interview)
        -The Difference Engine reviewed

-Newage (rhymes with...)
        -The Genesis Dream
        -The Cold Force of Sleep (Antero Alli on being a marginal guy)

-Concrete & fractal poetry by Oberc & Christian Book

-Memes:
        -Glenn Grant updates his memetic lexicon
        -Memeorabilia

-Bloodsuckers:
        -I Was A Teenage Vampire (Vampires?  In Edmonton?)
        -I Sing the Body Dismembered (the films of Dario Argento)

-a sceptical glance at pan-European Paganism with a side order of 
fascism
        -Inside the Brotherhood of Balder

Plus: fiction, art, photos, zine reviews, and additudinal edginess to 
spare.

"A metaphysical pit-bull that'll rip your nervous system to shreds."

--MARK & CARLA FRAUENFELDER, _bOING bOING_ #7, p. 45.

Get it now and avoid the mad scramble for back issues that you had to go 
through when Mondo 200 and Re/Search became hot shit so that you could 
casually mention, "oh, yeah, I've been reading that for years."

WHAT YOU NEED IS A.D.o.S.A. REALITY... READ VIRUS 23

Darren Wershler-Henry @ Sonic Interzone <sizone!virus23@ee.ryerson.ca>
ADoSA: because there's no reason not to Gnow
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: bohrer@sparky.mcc.com (Bill Bohrer)
Subject: Free Speech (was Re: Nazis International )
Keywords: nazis, racism, anti-semitism, pez, CIVIL RIGHTS GODDAMMIT
Organization: MCC, Austin, TX
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:05:34 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.232214.7738@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (hawkeye) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.054410.24701@news.acns.nwu.edu> hrow@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Heath Row) writes:
>|OK. A couple of things. Working as a journalist, I wrote an article for
>|tomorrow's paper about the distribution of some revionist anti-semitic
>|literature to the German and history departments at a local college. After
>|talking to a couple revisionists, I did not find this posting at all funny.
>|I realize it was probably meant to be a joke following up to the amazon
>|thang but still... open mind and all, I did not find it funny. At all.

GOd can we take this somewhere else?  

MAYBE the original spoof was in poor taste, I make no judgement call
on that, but this is zinedom, the last bunker still standing in the
war on Civil Liberties.

What if the poster had been a *real* Nazi??  I find them repugnant but
*they* have a right, in the US anyway, guaranteed by the first
ammendment of the constitution to spew their venom, same as *you* have
a right to debunk their lunatic revisionism.

There's no ^%#$%@# difference between piously LEFT-leaning kooks
trying to shut people up for political incorrectness, and the
RIGHT-leaning kooks trying to shut people up for being
liberl/fag/commies whatever.  Same goddamn statement:

	"Shut up if you don't think like I do."

Yeah yeah, we can hear you squeak

"But *I'M* on the moral high-ground here, they're NAZIS, they believe
in GENOCIDE"

That's the same argument the Operation REscue people use to advocate
anti-abortion laws.  Don't flame me, ARGUE with me, tell me how
pro-abortionists and Nazis differ. (for god's sake this is an
intellectual exercise kids, I'm as PC as they come, I'm a goddam
liberal yankee intellectual elite, or whatever the latest redneck
invective is for us)


BIll, 

editor of the forthcoming "BNV #1" (Bulging Neck Veins: Twist and Shout)


--
From: pauls@icecreambar.css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Re: F5-E adress
Date: 16 Nov 1992 21:02:42 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: world
Reply-To: pauls@umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

Scott B Ploof writes
| Does anyone know of the author of F5-E?  Does he have an E-Mail adress?

jerod23@well.sf.ca.us

| I'm new to this group so scuse my ignorance....

don't mention it

| and does anyone know
| of a FTP site which'll have the latest version?

ftp.msen.com /pub/newsletters/factsheet-five
From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Re: Nazis International
Date: 18 Nov 1992 22:31:34 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
NNTP-Posting-Host: stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu
Originator: news@stimpy.css.itd.umich.edu

In article <1992Nov18.193243.3364@muddcs.claremont.edu> bkeating@jarthur.claremont.edu (Fool With A Plan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.041943.5965@wixer.cactus.org> bladex@wixer.cactus.org (David Smith) writes:
>>I hardly read any of the other defensive justifications you made in later
>>messages on this thread, except to note that you seem determined to see just
>>how much of your foot you can stick in your mouth.  Learning to stop talking
>>is an acquired skill.
>
>You're right.  I should have shut up and let the squeamish little buggers
>squirm.  I have no need to defend myself.

Scuse me, but you're inflating yourself a little here.  As I recall you
got one (1) squirmy PC criticism from that post.

Paul Southworth                    |           ftp ftp.css.itd.umich.edu
(Not speaking for)                 |         Political Archives in /poli
Information Technology Division    |     Writable incoming directory on:
University of Michigan, Ann Arbor  |         redspread.css.itd.umich.edu 

  <Representing myself.  Everything I say is for educational use only.>
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 21:36:15 EST
From: <IO20742@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.zines
Subject: Art Saves Lives one...

Art saves Lives is my personal zine. In issue one there is a ton of art poetry
reviews, political stuff, stuff to make people aware of other perspectives
(mainly physically challenged) some of it could be labeled PC but it
really wasn't trying.. I just wrote my ideas. The price is a dollar, but if you
write me a real interesting letter or another zine(!!!!) I will be more than
happy to send an issue to you. Oh Yeah it has something on FUGAZI and a
review of the new REM. I am  going to try to produce a indie comp tape and star

start something to that effect soon but school is burdening my life so you'll
have to put up with my inertia.
                    ART SAVES LIVES/M.Reynolds
                    Room:118
                    5733 Hart Hall
                    Orono, ME 04469-5733
                                              please write...
Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: ed@cwis.unomaha.edu (Edwardo DiVinci)
Subject: SOUND Foodtrends poll results
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:59:36 GMT


The Results of the SOUND Survey of Culinary Trends

	These questions were posted on a few newsgroups and sent through
email.  We got a moderate reply (25 participants so far).  You have
about 24 hours to get your results in if you haven't already.
	These results will be published in the December issue of SOUND
News and Arts (PO BX 31104, Omaha,NE 68132...send manilla SASE for free
copy).

---------------------------------------------------------------
1. What is your favorite type of french fry?
	curly:		20%
	crinkly:  	8%
	McDonalds:	16%
	cottage:	8%
	steak:		8%
---------------------------------------------------------------
2. Do you eat grilled cheese sandwiches?
	a. If so, do you dip in ketchup?

	yes: 68%
	no:  16%

	ketchup: 8%
--------------------------------------------------------------- 
3. What's your opinion of vegetarians?
	(am one, favorable, apathetic, unfavorable, hate)

	am one:		12%	
	apathetic:	36%
	favorable:	44%
--------------------------------------------------------------- 
4. How many meals per day do you eat?

	1:	8%
	2-3:	52%
	4-6:	28%
	+/lots:	12%
--------------------------------------------------------------
5. What do you most often get cravings for?

	ice cream:	12%	
	chocolate: 	12%
	Chinese food:	8%
	sex:		8%
-------------------------------------------------------------- 
6. Do you eat in or go out most often?

	in:	40%
	out:	32%
	half:	12%
--------------------------------------------------------------
7. What's your favorite pizza topping and brand of pizza?

	mushrooms:	8%
	cheese:		15%
	seafood:	8%
	supreme/combo:	8%
	black olive:	8%

	Little Caesars:	16%
	Godfathers:	8%

	don't eat it: 	12%
-------------------------------------------------------------
8. Do you eat fast or slow?

	fast:	48%
	slow:	36%
-------------------------------------------------------------
9. Favorite soft-drink?

	Dr.Pepper: 	12%
	Diet Coke:	12%
	Coke:		20%
	Fresca:		8%
	Mt.Dew:		12%
	cherry cola:	8%
	others:		20%
-------------------------------------------------------------   
10. Have you ever choked to the point of blacking out?

	no: 	68%
	yes: 	8%
-------------------------------------------------------------
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Newsgroups: alt.zines
From: gardabr@unix1 (Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen)
Subject: Re: Scriba Communis Responsi
Organization: MRIH, More og Romsdal Ingeniorhogskole
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 07:52:14 GMT

Paul Southworth (pauls@icecreambar.css.itd.umich.edu) wrote:
: Gard Eggesbo Abrahamsen writes
: | I'm the editor of a disk-magazine on the Atari ST, and I have
: | decided to let it go on-line in ASCII format. Would this be the right  
: place to
: | post it?
: 
: I tried mailing you but couldn't establish a valid address.  What is the  
: 'zine about?
: 
Oh yea! My news reader is broker. My address i gardabr@unix1.mrih.no, but
this will be redirected to ga@samson.mrih.no, which is exactly the same
address as gard.abrahamsen@mrih.no
  The 'zine is mostly short stories and the world looked upon from an
artist's view - and the new answer. For those of you who have read Hitch
Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy, we have proven that 42 is not the answer of
the ultimate question of Life, Universe and Everything. The real answer
is 24892.

: Paul

Gard

Newsgroups: alt.zines,alt.industrial,alt.cyberpunk,rec.mag,rec.music.industrial
From: jmcvean@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jason Reed McVean)
Subject: CONTROL
Summary: new zine
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:18:48 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
Keywords: zine, industrial, cyber, AI

CONTROL needs your input.  Send us your *original* opinions,
articles, reviews, demos, fiction, interviews, advertisements
(very affordable, enquire about rates), questions and anything
else pertaining to cyberindustrial subculture.

E-mail:  jmcvean@acs.ucalgary.ca

Snail-mail:  CONTROL
             703 Penbrooke Rd. SE.
             Calgary, AB. CANADA
             T2A 3T3

or call The Matrix at (403) 283-9376  [2400 baud N81] and leave a
message for the Sysop.

CONTROL Version 1.0 is already available via snail-mail for $2.00
(cash, money order, IRC or (Canada only) check (payable to Brent
Sawatzky)) and encompasses the following:

Interviews: Cop Shoot Cop; Alien Sex Fiend; S.N. Lewitt; Xorcist;
            Poohbucket. 

Articles: Altered States (Computers and the Nature of Hallucinations);
          Chinese Rooms

plus Reviews; Poetry; Comics...

Newsgroups: alt.zines,rec.mag
From: jerod23@well.sf.ca.us (Jerod Pore)
Subject: F5-E subscriptions
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:38:11 GMT



On the suggestion on how to send out F5-E, I am limited by the software and
the capacity of the host system.  I won't be merging all the files into one
just for the mailings, sorry.

We will, however, be eliminating the sending out of old reviews in most of
the files.  So an update file will be all new reviews.  A new issue will be
reviews of zines or issues of zines that were not reviewed in previous
files.

The reviews of 'zines as a whole' was due to the incredible backlog.

And please, everyone who wants to subscribe.  I *know* what I posted.
Sending it back to me makes more work and delays getting this thing
together.
Newsgroups: alt.zines