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From: peters@CS.ColoState.EDU (eric peters)
Subject: uniq like utility for msdos?
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:07:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

I looked on some of the ftp sites, and couldn't find a utility to duplicate
the unix command "uniq".  Does anyone know where (If?) I can get one?

Thanks
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From: furballs@sequent.com (Paul Penrod)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: [HELP] Memory lost???
Date: 13 Nov 92 08:30:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Nov13.083031.17321
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

In article <1992Nov12.140737.5464@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> Frank2.Simon@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Frank2 'Biber' Simon) writes:
>mikey@db.erau.edu (Mike P. Simon) writes:
>
>>>I just upgraded my 386DX-40 to 8MB RAM, but when the machine boot up,
>>>it reports to have only 7808KB instead of 8192KB (8MB).  Does anyone know
>>>what is wrong with it?  Thanks
>
>>Check your CMOS setup.  You've probably got shadow or scratch ram taking up
>>that extra space.
>
>Some computers don't count the ram between 640KB and 1MB after booting up.
>There is no way to change you setup if your computer has got this peculiar
>behaviour. But you really shouldn't care about that:Your computer has got the
>full 8MB (maybe use a RAM-Test-Program).
>
>hope to help Frank
>-- 

You have all your RAM there. Some BIOS's like AMI let the cache
shadow into RAM space and do not count that RAM during the POST.
It's all there. The POST does not report it in terms you expect. I
bet you have 256K of cache sitting on your motherboard. 

...Paul


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From: corbier@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Daniel Corbier)
Subject: the Ultimate Calculator
Followup-To: comp.os.msdos.misc
Organization: Andrews University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 07:42:14 GMT

===============================================================

     T H E      U L T I M A T E     C A L C U L A T O R

===============================================================

I am now releasing a scientific calculator which supports many
built-in functions, operators, numerical notations, and modes.
This expression evaluator has the following features:

* High precision: 18 significant digits. Range: 3.4E-4932 to 1.2E+4932
* Trig, hyperbolic, and many other common functions
* Summations, numerical integration, equation solving
* Radian, Degree, and Gradient modes for trig functions
* User defined functions and variables
* Flexible notations:  ** or ^, SQR or SQRT, MOD or % etc...
* Decimal, Hexadecimal, Binary and Octal notations
* Arithmetic, bitwise, and relational operators
* Line editor with expression recall
* Expressions can also be entered at the DOS command line
* Adjustable FIX notation
* Online help

Ucalc can be used for anything from quick arithmetic, to
advanced financial & scientific calculations alike.

File Description
----------------

It runs on IBM PC compatibles.

Name:  UCALC12.ZIP
Size:  53K bytes
Where: FTP  garbo.uwasa.fi, under pc/math

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From: c89ponga@odalix.ida.liu.se (kand. Pontus Gagge)
Subject: Re: \ and /
Organization: CIS Dept, Univ of Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 04:09:03 GMT

ebb7683@venus.tamu.edu (BLACKMAN, EDWARD B) writes:

>In article <BxGtBJ.6qM@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, mkohlhaa@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mike) writes...
>>Hi.  I just recently got a 486 (after having and Amiga for a long time) and
>>am very annoyed at having to use "\" where I had always used "/".  Could 
>>someone recommend a utility or other solution that will equate
>>my handy / key to a \, but only will in DOS?  I thought
>>about reassigning the key, but I was afraid that the output would
>>still then be a "\" when I was connected to a Unix system.

>Check out 4DOS (current release: 4.01D).  It's a command.com replacement, and 
>will allow use of / in place of \, and has MANY other advantages over plain old
>command.com.

>Ed

...but unfortunately this will work only for the shell commands. There is
no way to make applications accept unix-slashes. On the other hand, the 
slashes *are* used more frequently out in the shell.

(Just felt like picking nits.)

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From: jav2d@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jason Adams Vanvalkenburgh)
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask?  Or have no memory barrier????
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:01:33 GMT

baloo@mik.uky.edu  writes:
> Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask, and do away with the 640k memory barrier?
> If not I won't believe it.  Dos has gotten so far behind the times.  I'm
> completely sick and tire of 'out of memory messages'  I'll have to switch
> to unix if dos 6.0 doesn't shape up.  

What about OS/2.  You get DOS, OS/2 and Windows compatability for a 
lot cheaper tha unix.  Especially considered that IBM's newer version
of OS/2 should be due out first Quarter '93, fixing bugs that are
inherent in all versions of an OS.  With DOS 6 who knows what you'll
get.

--
					Jason A. vanValkenburgh
					University of Virginia '95
					jav2d@virginia.edu
From: zessin@helena.rbi.informatik.uni-frankfurt.de (Ralf Zessin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask? Or have no memory barrier????
Keywords: dos 6
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:55:04 GMT

In <baloo.721011468@mik.uky.edu> baloo@mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal) writes:

>Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask, and do away with the 640k memory barrier?
>If not I won't believe it.  Dos has gotten so far behind the times.  I'm
>completely sick and tire of 'out of memory messages'  I'll have to switch
>to unix if dos 6.0 doesn't shape up.  


The endless Dream.....

DOS version whatever cannot have multitasking and will forever have
the 640k Barrier, or if this is false, no programm written under earlier
versions will run, or, if this is false, those programms disables multi-
tasking and won't believe memory above 640k.

-Ralf

Xref: sparky comp.os.msdos.misc:6039 alt.lang.asm:444
From: u9236635@sys.uea.ac.uk (R. Szcsesniak)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,alt.lang.asm
Subject: Assembly language syntax for 80386
Summary: syntax for 386 asm calls
Keywords: 386
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:37:07 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

I am looking for a comprehensive guide to 386 assembly especially for a detailed
description of what each command does. Please can somebody recommend either an
article or book which would be useful for this.

Thanks,

Romek Szczesniak
u9236635@uk.ac.uea
Xref: sparky comp.os.msdos.misc:6095 comp.os.msdos.programmer:10475
From: gcw@castle.ed.ac.uk (G Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc,comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Problems with receiving Satellite data via DMA...
Summary: Help wanted with DOS Hacks
Keywords: Bloody MS-DOS , Crashing , unreliable , Grrr
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:24:01 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Edinburgh University


OK this is the problem :

We have a PC (DELL 200 286 with big fast disk) connected to our high
resolution Meteosat satellite receiver via a IEEE-488 bus transferring
data onto the PC memory via DMA calls, and hence onto the PC disk. At
the end of the transmission this data then gets copied over to our Sun
network via PC-NFS and makes up the Satellite images of Europe available
via anonymous ftp from cumulus.met.ed.ac.uk. 

The PC runs a simple scheduling program to decide when to receive
images, ideally it would run forever.... 

However after it has received about 20 images, DOS falls over with the
traditional 'General Failure drive c: , abort, retry, ignore etc message
and no more images are received until someone notices the problem and
presses the 'f' key a few times....

It would appear that DOS is either not clearing up it's file pointers
properly, or is not freeing memory. 

We've tried a number of solutions, including MARK and RELEASEing memory
after reception, but to no avail...


So the question is :

a) has anyone experienced simillar problems before, and know a solution,

or 

b) does anyone know of a method of forcing DOS to automatically 'fail'
when it reports an 'Retry, abort, fail' type message and get on with the
job.


We'd like to make satellite animations generally available via ftp, but
until we sort out this reliability problem.....

Many thanks,


Gordon.



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From: karell@cs.Helsinki.FI (Esa Karell)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: UNIX --> DOS remote printing
Date: 9 Nov 92 09:23:41 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Finland

Hi,

Does anyone know commercial packages (or better yet PD)
that allow UNIX boxes to send remote print jobs to
a DOS machine?

Esa
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From: popineau@tintin.ese-metz.fr (Fabrice Popineau)
Subject: QIC-02 tapes & msdos
Organization: Supelec, Etablissement de Metz, France.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:22:39 GMT
X-Posted-From: tintin.ese-metz.fr
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


Hi,

Does anybody know how to read Unix tar files with a QIC-02 tape drive
under MSDOS ?

I know of Gnu Tar for scsi tapes. Is there something equivalent for
QIC-02 ?

Thanks,

F. Popineau
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From: miner@hightop.nrl.navy.mil (Les Miner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask? Or have no memory barrier????
Keywords: dos 6
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:12:43 GMT
Organization: Naval Research Labs (Washington DC)

In article <130@complex.complex.is> frisk@complex.is (Fridrik Skulason) writes:
>baloo@mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal) writes:
>
>>Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask, and do away with the 640k memory barrier?
>
>No.  Basically DOS 6.0 is just DOS 5.0 with a bunch of new utilities bundled.
>The big changes will wait for DOS 7 - if that ever will be released.
>
If you want something to compare to UNIX just wait for Windows NT.  Its in 
Beta rignt now.  There is a newsgroup called comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
that discusses this.

:)


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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: baloo@mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal)
Subject: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask?  Or have no memory barrier????
Keywords: dos 6
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: baloo
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:57:48 GMT

Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask, and do away with the 640k memory barrier?
If not I won't believe it.  Dos has gotten so far behind the times.  I'm
completely sick and tire of 'out of memory messages'  I'll have to switch
to unix if dos 6.0 doesn't shape up.  
Kevin Coupal
baloo@mik.uky.edu
uk05395@ukpr.uky.edu
 
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From: Frank2.Simon@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Frank2 'Biber' Simon)
Subject: Re: [HELP] Memory lost???
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 14:01:37 GMT

mikey@db.erau.edu (Mike P. Simon) writes:

>>I just upgraded my 386DX-40 to 8MB RAM, but when the machine boot up,
>>it reports to have only 7808KB instead of 8192KB (8MB).  Does anyone know
>>what is wrong with it?  Thanks

>Check your CMOS setup.  You've probably got shadow or scratch ram taking up
>that extra space.

Some computers don't count the ram between 640KB and 1MB after booting up.
There is no way to change you setup if your computer has got this peculiar
behaviour. But you really shouldn't care about that:Your computer has got the
full 8MB (maybe use a RAM-Test-Program).

hope to help Frank
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From: harper@convex.com (David Harper)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: \ and /
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:45:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov10.204558.22762
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Nov10.040903.25474@ida.liu.se> c89ponga@odalix.ida.liu.se (kand. Pontus Gagge) writes:
>ebb7683@venus.tamu.edu (BLACKMAN, EDWARD B) writes:
>
>>In article <BxGtBJ.6qM@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, mkohlhaa@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (mike) writes...

  [ previous stuff deleted ]
  
>>Check out 4DOS (current release: 4.01D).  It's a command.com replacement, and 
>>will allow use of / in place of \, and has MANY other advantages over plain old
>>command.com.
>
>>Ed
>
>...but unfortunately this will work only for the shell commands. There is
>no way to make applications accept unix-slashes. On the other hand, the 
>slashes *are* used more frequently out in the shell.

  Anarkey (available on most PC archive sites) has a simple way around this
  problem; translate the command line before passing it on.  Thus, when you
  type:
  
        /sys/bin/keenprog -s -q filename

  what gets passed in to command.com (or your favorite command processor) is:

        \sys\bin\keenprog /s /q filename

  Anarkey also has an easy way of supressing the translation for those
  programs that are hardcoded to expect unix style conventions.  4DOS is
  great and I use it myself, but I let Anarkey have a shot at the command
  line first since there are some things it does that I like better.
  
>(Just felt like picking nits.)

  Me too 8-)


Dave Harper    -     Convex Computer Corp.            E-mail address:
3000 Waterview Pky.  Richardson, TX 75080             harper@convex.com
From: slc@a2.cim.cdc.com (Steve Chesney x4662)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: mail order blues
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:08:05 GMT
Reply-To: slc@a2.cim.cdc.com (Steve Chesney x4662)

The following describes the experience I had with a mail order firm:

1.  On  October 28, 1992 I ordered a Creative Labs Multimedia Upgrade Kit
from First Computer Systems of Norcross Georgia.  I ordered by phone and 
had the sales person verify that the system included all the parts listed 
in their ad for the stated price of $499.00.  He said that it did.  
Included in the list is a game "Sherlock Holmes Consulting Detective". 
which I asked about explicitly.  
The ad is on pages 422-423 of the November issue of PC Sources.

2.  We received the kit on Tuesday November 3.  The game was not included. 
When I contacted Daryl by phone he stated that the game was on the same 
media as the Microsoft Bookshelf product (another kit component). 
but he did not know how to access it.

When I examined the product,  I found the following:
	* the package was labeled "Starter Kit", not "Upgrade Kit"
	* no package labeling (inside or out) referred to the game
	* the Microsoft Bookshelf product  packaging did not refer to the game
	* the Microsoft Bookshelf product  media does not contain the game; 
          I examined the entire directory tree.

3.  On Wednesday  November 4 I contacted Daryl, told him of the missing game 
and was told that he would consult with the Sales Manager  and call me back.  
After  a day of repeated delays  he explained that the game was listed i
in the description of the kit  as a "feature" which meant that it was not 
included.   That explanation evoked from me an earthy descriptor commonly i
used to describe cattle manure.  I then told him that I wanted the 
missing piece shipped and no more run-around.  
He then told me that they would not do that but I should contact their 
RMA center (at my expense), and ship back the product ($19.00 of my expense).  
(In addition there would be a 15% restocking fee according to the invoice.)    
	
I talk to other persons in the company and was told that they had the 
right to change prices without notice and that the package as advertised 
now costs $599.00.  Further, the word I used to describe their 
explanations proved that I was not good enough to be their customer!  

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Metaphase Technology Incorporated                612-482-4662 (voice)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask? Or have no memory barrier????
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:22:31 GMT

In <1992Nov10.174211.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:

>In article <5575@krafla.rhi.hi.is>, einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason) writes:
>> In <130@complex.complex.is> frisk@complex.is (Fridrik Skulason) writes:
>> 
>>>baloo@mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal) writes:
>> 
>>>>Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask, and do away with the 640k memory barrier?

>Rumours have MSDOS 7 as breaking the 640Kb barrier (and breaking old software,
>I guess), and DRDOS 7 doing multitasking and to some extent breaking the 640K
>barrier.  You could get Unix (Linux is pretty good, and free, and has DOS
>emulation available), or OS/2.

LINUX has DOS emulation available?  Since when?  At what level?  Will
it run Windows (3.0 in Real mode, presumably, if at all).

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From: bbs-hrick@jwt.UUCP (Rick Harrison)
Subject: Ramdrive
Reply-To: bbs-hrick@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 09:07:39 GMT

I only have the condensed version of DOS version 4 documentation.
It does not explain how to use the RAMDRIVE.SYS file.  Putting
the line "DEVICE=C:\DOS\RAMDRIVE.SYS" in my CONFIG.SYS file gets
me a RAM disk which is only 64k in size.  How can I specify a
larger size for it?  Any help will be greatly appreciated.
From: frisk@complex.is (Fridrik Skulason)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask? Or have no memory barrier????
Keywords: dos 6
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:24:03 GMT
Organization: Frisk Software International, Iceland

baloo@mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal) writes:

>Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask, and do away with the 640k memory barrier?

No.  Basically DOS 6.0 is just DOS 5.0 with a bunch of new utilities bundled.
The big changes will wait for DOS 7 - if that ever will be released.

-frisk
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jenk@microsoft.com (Jen Kilmer)
Subject: Re: Is dos 6.0 gonna multitask? Or have no memory barrier????
Date: 13 Nov 92 06:58:01 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <BxKoEC.JC8@news.cso.uiuc.edu> walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Walk) writes:
>DOS doesn't have a 640K barrier.  DOS will use as much CONTINOUS memory it
>can find.  Since the upper 384K of the 1st meg. is reserved for hardware,
>(and bios) DOS can only "see" 640K.  One thing that may be possible is
>to use to 386 memory mapping to fool DOS into thinking that more memory
>is availiable, and then having a device driver handle the mem. swaps.

Technically, Todd, this is quite true. A friend of mine with a 386 
that has a hercules monitor gets 700K conventional memory this way
with MS-DOS 5.

(Namely, in config.sys he includes:

device=c:\dos\himem.sys
device=c:\dos\emm386.exe i=a000-afff
dos=umb

Emm386 gets xms memory from himem, which it maps into unused areas
in the uma - including the A000 segment - which emm386 makes available
via the xms umb calls. DOS=UMB instructs MSDOS.SYS to request any & all
xms umbs and add them to the MS-DOS memory pool. Since the A000 segment
is contiguous with the rest of 'conventional' memory, it gets folded
into it. Nice, eh?)

However...it is amazing the number of commercial applications that 
do not run properly in this configuration. They complain about too
little memory, or a memory error, or a memory allocation error, or
simply hang. If my friend does not include the A000 segment, or only
includes A400-AFFF (separating that memory from the conventional
pool, making it a "normal" umb) these same applications work.

This may be more of what Ralf was talking about when he said that
a DOS which breaks the 640k limit would not be DOS. It won't run 
the existing DOS machine base applications (still more DOS platforms
out there than Mac, Windows, and OS/2 platforms combined).

And, of course, breaking the the 1M limit imposed by the 8086 (and 
the 1M + 64K - 16 bytes imposed by real mode on 80x86s) would be
even tougher to break.  Current solutions include Windows [either
native Windows apps or DOS-mode apps using DPMI] or OS/2 apps.

-jen
no, not speaking for microsoft....
From: mikey@db.erau.edu (Mike P. Simon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: [HELP] Memory lost???
Date: 8 Nov 1992 23:39:13 -0500
Organization: Embry-Riddle Aeronautical University, Daytona Beach, FL USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: libra.db.erau.edu

eda803z@monu1.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

>I just upgraded my 386DX-40 to 8MB RAM, but when the machine boot up,
>it reports to have only 7808KB instead of 8192KB (8MB).  Does anyone know
>what is wrong with it?  Thanks

Check your CMOS setup.  You've probably got shadow or scratch ram taking up
that extra space.

-Mike
mikey@db.erau.edu
From: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Dick Cleek)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: gif problems
Date: 6 Nov 1992 13:42:50 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: dcleek@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <1992Nov5.211443.417@sunova.ssc.gov>, by lmiller@scum.ssc.gov (Lee Miller):
> 
>   I am looking for a program where I can view the newer gif files on my pc
>   
if by newer you mean 89a, then try these:
wingif14.zip
gwswin10.zip   
psp101.zip   all above require windows

or
vuimg?.zip
cshow?.zip   non windows

just use archie to find an ftp site near you.
telnet archie.unl.edu
prog cshow

for example.
good luck
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