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From: sepstei1@cc.swarthmore.edu (stephen epstein)
Subject: Re: Long trip: Paris-Saigon
Organization: swarthmore college
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:54:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.165207@floreal.ibp.fr>, nguyenth@floreal.ibp.fr (Thao
Nguyen) writes:
> 
> Hi there,
> 
> Having read Paul Theroux's book about his trip (UK-Japan and back essentially by train) 
> I have dreamed of doing the same for some time. Now I feel prepared for this long journey :)
> My plan is more or less: Paris-Mosow-Vladivostok-PyongYong-Seoul-China (Beijing,Shanghai,
> Tibet-Guangdong)-HongKong-Hanoi-Saigon.


Umm, good luck, but I think you're going to have a hell of a time on that
Pyongyang-Seoul leg.  If you're set on a continuous journey, you'll
probably want to skip the Korean peninsula...

Stephen
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From: tjfeue@bb1t.monsanto.com
Subject: Re:  Travel to Belize - March
Organization: Monsanto Company, St. Louis, MO
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:43:52 GMT

In article <C18D7I.2K3@space.physics.uiowa.edu>, rlm@sunlight.physics
.uiowa.edu (Robert Mutel) writes:
> My family and I are thinking about a 1 week trip to Belize in late March. 
> I have read (most of) the excellent guidebook in the library, and have some 
> tentative plans. However,  I wonder if anyone on the net has been there 
> recently who could recommend any areas/beaches/ruins/rainforest treks, 
> etc that were particularly interesting or unusual? 

I was there twice last year and will be there again in early March.

Ambergris Caye (pronounced Key) is the "Cancun/Cozumel" of Belize...
with heavy emphasis on the quotes.  Caye Caulker is the "budget"
island, you can get a cabana with cold running water on the shore
for as little as $8.00US/night at Ignacios Beach Huts or one with 
A/C, full time hot water, cable TV, phone, etc for $50US at The 
Tropical Paradise Hotel.  Seabeeze (yes, it is spelled right... It
is owned by Chuck and Bonnie) is a better deal (next door).
Because of the Barrier Reef, the beaches are generally pretty narrow,
but you can swim and sun from the many docks.  Placencia, in the south,
has the best beaches.  It also has a sidewalk instead of a main road...
Honest!  Stay the hell out of Belize City as much as possible.  If
you go out at night, take a cab.  Belize City is a real scum pit
(of course I love scum pits, but that's another story) and you will
have all kinds of people bugging your for money, tours, whatever.
San Ignacio (Cayo) in the west is a good starting point for the several
game reserves, lodges rivers and Mayan ruins in the area.  Dangriga
is boring.  Punta Gorda is really wet, but has the lushest forest
and there are several Mayan ruins somewhat near there.  In the North, 
Corozal is the major town.  More of a Mexican flair to things but
still Belizian.  Any specific questions, Email for more detail.

Ted Feuerbach - Scientific Systems Consultant
Disclaimer:     Monsanto didn't say this, I did!
From: nbeck@weber.ucsd.edu (Nathaniel Beck)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Travel guides for France (non-Paris)
Date: 22 Jan 93 06:31:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu


Last summer on our trip to Provence and Languedoc, my wife and I
really enjoyed the Cadogan Guide to the South of France. It is a
nice book, with a mixture of middle priced accomodations,
and standard sites combined with nice walks and drives and smaller,
less well known things to do. It was a nice supplement to the Red
and Green Guides.

Unfortunately, the only Cadogan Guide for France appears to be for
Provence and Languedoc. Does anyone know of any similar guides for
France (outside Paris). Alternatively, what are your favorite guides
to France (outside Paris), or even books (similar to Mayle's work on
Provence).

As always, thanks in advance.

Neal

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From: bwood@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Bill Wood)
Subject: Re: Travel to Florida Keys
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:57:00 GMT

In article <C1A0I9.Hzq@icon.rose.hp.com>, cmoore@rose.hp.com (Chris Moore) writes...
>Katherine Dooley (dooley@oasys.dt.navy.mil) wrote:
>: I need some information on things to do, places to
>: stay and place to eat in the Florida Keys.
> 
>: We will be traveling there in March.
> 
>: Thanks!
> 
>Please post any replies...I too will be travelling there, in May.
> 
>Chris Moore
>cmoore@mothra.rose.hp.com


<*>  If your questions pertain to Key West (in particular), please
     E-mail me direct, I'll be happy to refer you to some of the
     best restaurants 'there'.   Best wishes.  Bill
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From: ah505@yfn.ysu.edu (Brian Quinby)
Subject: Small Project in Uruguay
Organization: Youngstown State/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:38:15 GMT


I received the following message on another net and thought I
would repost it here. It would only take a few minutes and
a few cents to respond to Alain's request and it would
be exciting for the kids involved. Please respond.

	Brian

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Small project in a classroom in Uruguay.

Dear friends and colleagues,

I recently talked with 2 kids, Carolina 9 and Florencio 11, in
Montevideo and we came to the idea that they would be delighted to
build a small project in their classroom.  I agreed that I would ask
friends and colleagues around the world to mail Carolina and Florencio
a postcard from the area where they live.  They will pinpoint the
origin of postcards on a map of the world and talk with their teachers
about countries and places.

So would you find 5 minutes and a few cents/pesos/schillings etc. and
mail a postcard (preferably in an envelope, mail is not really perfect
in Uruguay) to Carolina and Florencio?  This would make 2 kids and
their classrooms happy and help them know the world a little better.
If you wish to write a few words, they speak Spanish, some French and
they can be helped with English.

Their address:
Carolina y Florencio Ares Pavan
Villa de Masnou 4793
11500 Montevideo, Uruguay


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From: dhmccra@custer.uucp (David H. McCracken)
Subject: Re: is late june a good time to take a trip to Yucatan+Belize+Guatemala?
Organization: Exxon
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:52:55 GMT

In article <20JAN199311275393@csa2.lbl.gov> deamici@csa2.lbl.gov (Giovanni De Amici :(510)4866532 - 50/351 LBL) writes:
>the 'subject' says it all.
>I am planning a trip to Yucatan and Guatemala and Belize. I have two, maybe
>three weeks of time, and want to see the sights (Maya ruins), experience the
>culture (local festivals), maybe do a little hiking and see some wildlife.
>Beach resorts will be avoided; the most I plan to spend there is a day or two
>at the end of the trip. 
>Is the second half of june a good time to travel in that part of the world?
>
>I received different advice, ranging from: 
>"it is going to be hotter than hell, and humid too", 
>to: "it is not the best time to go, but it will be pleasant nevertheless" 
>
>I am now looking for someone who has been there in june, and can give some
>first hand report and suggestions. 
>
>Please e-mail to: deamici@astra.lbl.gov. I will then post a summary of the
>replies. Thank you very much.			Giovanni De Amici

Been there! Done it! Being from Houston, the humidity wasn't really a factor, though it does get pretty humid that time of year. And hot. But it's beautiful
country and wonderful people, so you should be able to bear the heat. I'd recommend it!
From: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Travelling from Agra to Varanasi
Date: 27 Jan 1993 01:52:30 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

		Travelling from Agra to Varanasi

  There are a couple of express trains between Agra and Varanasi. I will
have to look up the "Indian Bradshaw" to get the exact details.
  However, I do know that these trains are not particularly fast and have
a lot of stops. You might be better off using New Delhi as a hub; there
are many fast trains between Agra and New Delhi (such as the Taj Express
and Shatabdi Express) and several between New Delhi and Varanasi.
  In general, I would say that the trains between Agra and Varanasi are
quite slow and inconvenient and should be avoided as far as possible. You
might spend a few hours extra in"hubbing" through New Delhi, but much less
hassle in obtaining reservations etc.
  If anyone wants more details about these trains send me email. However,
the timetable I have is about a year old and not entirely reliable.
						banarji@unixg.ubc.ca

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From: riipinen@dxcern.cern.ch (Petri Juhani Riipinen)
Subject: A lost shipticket...:(
Organization: CERN European Laboratory for Particle Physics
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:52:10 GMT

Hello there.

I'm going back to Finland at 11th of feb. with a Finjet ship, which goes
from Travemunde to Helsinki. Now, I bought my ticket from Finland and it
was sent to my home after I had come back to Geneva. My mother sent it to me
but it still hasn't arrived. I would rather not buy a new ticket. I have
the reservation number of my reservation. I would rather not start driving
to Travemund without knowing, that I will be able to enter the ship. After
all, it's over 1000km drive from Geneva...:(

Question: Has anybody had a similar experience and had gone to Travemunde to
Finnjets office and just by explaining the reason for not having the ticket,
been able to enter the ship? I have the reservation number, so I wonder if
I will be able to just show them the number and my passport and get a new
ticket...? Any experience? The travel agency, that sold me the ticket, MIGHT
send me a new one, but I don't count too much on that...

- Petri -

PS. Please email...
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From: matsbror@dit.lth.se (Mats Brorsson)
Subject: Performances at Kennedy Center for Perfofrming Arts
Originator: matsbror@dit.lth.se
Reply-To: matsbror@dit.lth.se (Mats Brorsson)
Organization: Dept of Computer Engineering, Lund University, Sweden.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:28:28 GMT


I will be going to Washington DC March 28th for about a week.
Does anybody know which performances will be at Kennedy
center for performing arts during this period?

Thanks in advance,

   /Mats

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From: me@dude.pcs.com (Michael Elbel)
Subject: Re: Germany?
Organization: PCS Computer Systeme GmbH
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:40:07 GMT

In <C16pMu.2n0@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au> ajl@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Alexandre Lefebvre) writes:

>In general, staff in shops are very unfriendly in Germany (this is
>for everyone, and a bit more unfriendly to tourists), and when you
>go shopping you have the weird impression that you are annoying them, 
>and that they don't have any sense of service. Get used to it!

But then I had the very same feeling when I came to New York
after a 5 Week stay in California :-)


>Apart from that, the Germans in general speak pretty good English, and
>are willing to use it, so it's not a problem not speaking the language
>there, as soon as you're not too aggressive (try introducing and excusing
>yourself in German first).

This can even be a problem, if you're trying to use your German and
all the Germans want to show off their English ;-)

Michael
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From: parekh@cis.ohio-state.edu (Ashesh Parekh)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: How long to stay in HongKong/Bangkok/Singapore ?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 17:12:41 -0500
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: spinaltap.cis.ohio-state.edu

In article <1993Jan26.152336.23181@delos.stgt.sub.org> stefanb@delos.stgt.sub.org (Stefan Bechtold) writes:
>
>Hi !
>
>I'm planning to do a trip to Australia in Summer 93. I want to see
>at least two of those 3 cities mentioned in the Subject (Hong Kong,
>Bangkok, Singapore). Which city would you recommand ?
>
>How long should I stay in those cities ?
>


I have seen Singapore and Bangkok.  Out of those two I'd most certainly
pick Singapore - by far the best (in all respects) city I've EVER seen (I
have seen my share of cities).  You'll be surprised - it beats just about any
city in the US (in terms of cleanliness, friendliness, public transport,
sights, technology, you-name-it!)

Hope you have fun!

-Ashesh

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  Use "finger parekh@cis.ohio-state.edu"  for information about my schedule.
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From: ramsey@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (curtis ramsey)
Subject: Any 1992 travellers on Karakorum Highway?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 00:33:09 GMT

I would like info from anyone who travelled on the Karakorum Highway
between Urumqi, China and Islamabad, Pakistan in the summer of 1992.
I have the Lonely Planet Guides dealing with the areas (China,
Pakistan, and The Karakorum Highway) but I would like to brought up
to date on the transportation situation (i.e. the problems obtaining
tickets in Urumqi and Kashgar), border formalities, costs and even
more generally what you would do again or not do again in hindsight.
I will try to post whatever info I can put together from the
responses.

Thanks
From: ssmaul@uta.fi (Marko Ulvila)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: WANTED: Tanzania by ship
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:53:22 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland


    I am planning to got to Tanzania by ship in April or May.
    Any first hand information would be most welcome.  Besides
    Dar es Salaam Mombasa would be OK.  Departure should preferably
    be from Mediterannean ports on the side of Europe.

    I do have the ABC passanger ship guide which is a good start.
    But time is getting shy and infomation is hard to find.

    Please reply by mail.


    Thanks!


    Marko Ulvila
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From: sepstei1@cc.swarthmore.edu (stephen epstein)
Subject: Hiking in Chile in June?
Organization: swarthmore college
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:25:47 GMT

I'm thinking of spending a month in Chile this June, but I'm worried that
it may be too cold for trekking.  Anybody out there with experience on this
matter?

Stephen
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From: prm@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (paul.r.mount)
Subject: Re: Ashevill & Arts and Crafts Furniture
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:00:50 GMT


Re the Biltmore house, it is expensive if you want to go inside and
wander.  You can walk around the outside, the gardens, the winery
for free.  The self-guided rent-a-cassette player tape was pretty good.
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Scotland
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:45:17 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

cstadgs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr R J Tinsley) wrote:
> HF.ALB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Ann Babb) writes:
>> Best time of year to travel to Scotland?  Interesting things to see
>> near Edinborough and/or Glasgow?  The Highlands?
> Yet another person getting the net do their homework for them. <sigh>
> Try subscribing to rec.travel.please.hold.my.hand

Yup.  But one small hint: the latest version of my list of the details of
festivals in Scotland, which answers part of this and does go a bit beyond
anything I've seen in a guidebook, is now archived at the rec.travel FAQ
site.

Wherever that is.  I didn't record the exact ftp details and will leave
locating it as an exercise.




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From: murphy@well.sf.ca.us (Daniel A. Murphy)
Subject: Re: Info San Francisco
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:07:02 GMT


My favorite high-quality-for-low-to-moderate-price restaurant
is Helmand.  It is outstanding Afghani food in elegant surroundings
at very reasonable ($8.95-$10.95 entrees) prices.

It's on Broadway, though I forget the exact address.  It's in the
book and I just can't say enough good stuff about this place.
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From: aa158@Freenet.carleton.ca (Les Casey)
Subject: hotels in Sao Paulo
Organization: National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:25:58 GMT


I will be in Sao Paulo  Feb 14-18.  Any suggestions for
cheap but clean hotels?
 
Pls. send info directly to my email account.
-- 
y
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From: reberhar@inf.ethz.ch (Rolf Georg Eberhardt)
Subject: Re: Information about exchanging homes
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:25:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.134944.7431@newshost.lanl.gov> bobwhite@beta.lanl.gov (James R. White) writes:
>The following quote is taken from Fodor's 92 Florida:
>
> Exchanging homes is a suprisingly low-cost way to enjoy a vacation in
> another part of the country.  A good choice for home exchange in the
> United States is the _Vacation Exchange Club Inc._ (Box 820, Haleiwa, HI
> 96712, Tel. (800) 638-3841).  The club publishes three directories a year,
> in February, April, and Augusst, and updated, late listings throughout
> the year.  Annual membership, which includes your listing in one book,
> a newsletter, and copies of all publications (mailed first class) is #150.
>

This is a very interesting idea. Are international contacts possible?

--rolf
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From: calvin@lysator.liu.se (Chris Maluszynski)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: LOOKING FOR: Sports store in New York City
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:35:37 GMT
Organization: Lysator ACS at Linkoping University


Yup, I'm wondering if there is a sports store, preferably big, somewhere
close to all those places tourists go in New York City.

Please reply by mail.

Thanks,

	-Chris

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From: ids-bo@garnet.berkeley.edu (JeWeL)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Renting a car when you're under _ 21 _ yrs old...
Date: 28 Jan 1993 05:25:28 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan26.175034.4561@cs.sfu.ca> ekaas@cs.sfu.ca (Erik Kaas) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.155250.10546@lth.se> kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson) writes:
>>I wish to rent a car in Chicago at a time when I'll be 24 11/12...
>>I've heard that the rental companies charge an exorbitantly higher
>>rate for those under 25.  Is this true?  Is there any way to "get
>>around" this?  Are there any reputable companies that don't do this?

>There are two companies that do rent cars: Thrifty and General (at least in 
>L.A.), but you'll have to pay $10 (Thrifty) or $5 (General) PER DAY extra when
>you're 24.

 I've had no success in trying to rent a car since I'm in the "high risk"
age group of 18 to 21, and was wondering if anyone under 21 has been able
to rent a car from one of the major rental companies. (I know that some
small independent companies will rent to us young folks.)

 Also, am I in error to think that the companies should be able to rent to 
young drivers if the driver has a credit card with car rental damage 
insurance since the driver wouldn't need to purchase the LDW from the
rental company?
From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Travelling in New England this summer
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:36:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman (BBN)
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

In article <C1J9uo.2xC@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, qchlee@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Henry Lee) writes:
|> I'm planning to have a trip in New England (Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire,
|> Massachusetts, Rhode Island and Connecticut) this summer. I want to travel
|> by train and bus only. Can anyone give me some info of what interesting
|> things I can see in these places and where to stay? 

This is far too general a query to try to answer in full, but it's
important to know that New England passenger railways are 
woefully inadequate;  they really don't serve northern New England
at all, and they serve only a couple of heavily travelled 
corridors in southern New England.

Specifically, all we've really got is the following:

   Boston-Providence-New London-New Haven-New York: 9-10 trains daily
   Springfield(MA)-Hartford-New Haven-New York: 7 trains daily
   Boston-Springfield-Hartford(etc): 2 trains daily
   Boston-Springfield-Albany: 1 train daily
   New York- Vermont - Montreal: 1 overnight train

Other than some local commuter rail operations centered on Boston
and New York, that's it.   Nothing to Maine or New Hampshire,
nothing from Boston to Vermont.  It's pretty sad...

-- 
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From: pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss)
Subject: Re: Going to moscow
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:33:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.033831.28904@ems.psu.edu> elsworth@hekla.pnge.psu.edu (Derek Elsworth) writes:
>In article <1993Jan19.165546.24237@pacdata.uucp> jimh@pacdata.com (Jim Harkins) writes:
>>1.  What should I see and in what order?
>
>     The touristy: Kremlin, Arbaat, Lenin's tomb, St. Basils etc.
>     The not-so-touristy: Metro stations, puppet theatre, Metro
>                          station markets, stores, Russian Orthodox
>                          churches, Moscow State Univ....etc...
                           ^^^^^^^^
If someone's gonna waste lots of films for architectural wonders, these
would go to the first place.
Like Kolomenskoye (depicted as Siberia ;-) in HBO's <Stalin>; their Volga
river was, in fact, in Moscow as well, near  the church of Trinity at
Lykovo). Or Patriarch's Yard at Krutitsy. In the very downtown, don't
forget Trinity at Nikitniki, in 1 block from Rossia Hotel. 
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