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From: "Christoph Luebbe" <UJ4J@DKAUNI2.BITNET>
Subject: Re: WfW 2.0 & Win-OS2 ATM a-dieresis problem
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:45:15 GMT

..
Hi This is a mail from south germany
..
We also had this problem with the ATM-Fonts. But there ist not a bug
in the font data. When you are installing the ATM fonts the
Type Manager looks for *.pfm files. If he cant find them he
generates them with the *.afm and *.inf files. This new pfm files
located on your hard disk in \psfonts\pfm are not correct.
..
To fix this problem delete all files in \psfonts and \psfonts\pfm
on your hard disk. Then locate the *.inf files on your OS/2 Printer
disk Nr. 5. Take a ASCII Editor and edit all *.inf files except of
SYMBOL.INF. Locate the line Pi = true and change it to Pi = false
or the other way round. (I cant remember because I am now not able to
access my PC to look in the inf files).
Now reinstall the fonts.
..
Christoph Luebbe uj4j@ibm3090.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
From: gutz@cc49.crl.aecl.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS ready to release 32-bit Word & Excel?!?! Read on...
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:54:12 GMT
Organization: AECL-Research


In article <1992Sep24.093029.21394@microsoft.com> petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly) writes:
> [some stuff deleted.../
> <OLAVT.92Sep22195738@ulrik.uio.no> <1992Sep18.192320.17805@mksol.dseg.ti.com><1992Sep18.055258.26461@utdallas.edu><1992Sep22.102115.11330@microsoft.com><1992Sep22.162302.352@utdallas.edu>
>
>I think this is a sign of an unfortunate trend in the software industry.
>The key focus seems not to be on developing good software, but on the
>legal issues involved.  Software and hardware companies are becomming
>more and more legal firms.  The focus has gone from developing interesting
>technologies, to legally keeping the other guy from developing interesting
>technologies.
>
>
>Frankly, I think apps and os's are more closely related than os's and
>hardware, and there are certain other companies who do, or have forced
>you to use their os's.  (one is related to a fruit that is good for making
>pies, and another did and still makes typewriters).
>
>MS's apps do run on OS/2, in windows mode.  Why should MS be forced to 
>port them.  If that's the case, then maybe OS/2 should be forced onto
>the MAC, Kind of the same deal.
>
>Let us work on things that the market wants us to work on, not on
>what a few special interest groups with lawers want us to work on.
>(there may be a market that want's Word on OS/2, but there is a bigger
>market that want's other things).
>
>petesk@microsoft.com
>My Opinions...

Pete,

With all due respect to whatever position you have at MS (and I don't
care what it is), you are a total idiot!  If you think 2-3 million people
constitutes a few special intrest groups, then you have to be brain-dead.

If I were to want an OS/2 app from MS, I would want a native apps solely
because I don't want the Windows version.  I, and many people like me,
have moved to OS/2 because we're fed up with the crap MS calls Windows.
I want platform stability not just a sexy interface - and Windows just
doesn't offer both.  I haven't even installed the Windows compatability
in my OS/2 installation because I just don't use it.  If I have to use
a Windows apps, (which is rare these days) I go to another system where
Windows is installed to use it.

If you, and/or MS think I'm going to use a Windows app under OS/2 when
there is a native OS/2 app, you will surely miss the boat.  So drop your
"NT is going to take the World" attitude and admit that MS is working on
OS/2 apps.  One would have to be pretty naive to believe that MS hasn't
noticed the potential of OS/2 and has not started to build apps.

 
Steven Gutz
AECL Research
Chalk River Laboratories
Chalk River Ontario
Canada K0J 1J0
GUTZ@CC49.CRL.AECL.CA
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: tlilley@jarthur.claremont.edu (Thomas (Ted) Lilley)
Subject: Re: link386 pro (golf game by Access)
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:13:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.161809.15103@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> i28x1@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>
>That's something I've been sort of wondering too... can OS/2 run programs that
>expect to be running on a 386 in a DOS box?  If so how?  
>
>My personal feeling is that it can't, but I haven't tried it yet... I would
>assume it can't because the 386 and 486 can only virtualize an 8086... from
>what I've read in the net, the P5might get the ability to virtualize itself,
>which is what I think you would have to have to run something that requires a
>386 or better....
>
>Quazi Haque
>I28X1@VAX5.CIT.CORNELL.EDU
>

Something that expects to take over protected mode for itself, or has it's
own proprietary 386 memory management will not run under OS/2.  However,
the trend is towards DPMI compliancy for 386-specific apps (at least
hopefully:).  This allows a Dos Protected Mode Interface server to supply
386 specific services to client applications so the applications don't need
to control the processor.  OS/2 is a DPMI 0.9 server, and I believe
QEMM and Windows do or are going to have DPMI services.

Ted
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:53:13 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

Sure, OS/2 is complex and has lots of installation problems.  Looks
bad until you compare it with the competition - DOS and Windows.  If
you could run the Mac interface on the PC (not counting the Hydra
card) then you might have something.  We'll see what Taligent comes up
with. 
-- 
Smile and the world smiles with you, laugh and you sin! -- Jerry Falwell
From: 873clifton@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Problem unzipping GS25os2
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:12:45 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Oct6.092423.1541@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, streckca@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
> I can't un archive Ghost Script.  Teh file comes as a ZIP extension and I've
> tried both PKUNZIP and PKUNZIP2 and they both come up with not able to interpet
> file.  What can I do?
> 
> 				Chad Streck
> 				streckca@cnsvax.uwec.edu
> 				streckca@master.cs.uwec.edu

Use the public domain Info zip/unzip available on hobbes. The PK zip/unzip are
outdated and don't support a newer compression algorithm. The Info zips are
free, up to date and are 32-bit apps.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: linstee@dutecaj.et.tudelft.nl (Erik van Linstee)
Subject: Triple question: less, gcc, emx
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 08:48:35 GMT

Q1:

When I call less (less177 from hobbes) I get a sys 1808: exception 0005
report. Does anybody know what is wrong? When I try to call the same
less from the dos prompt I get DPMI not supported, both with DPMI
enabled and auto.

Q2:

With gcc 2.2.2 I get an exception 0006 repport. Again, what could
be wrong here?


Q3:


I have seen EMX popup several times now, especially when installing
less, and would like to know exactly what it is and why less fi needs
it.

Thanks to anyone who respones.
Erik

-- 
Erik van Linstee   |   Delft University of Technology   |   I'll be back ... 
----
   We are god, 'cause only we can create the idea of his existence
   in our holy brains...  (Yello)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: eric@smos.com (Super nice guy)
Subject: Problems printing with Quicken 4windows & OS/2
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.apps 
Keywords: Quicken, Windows, OS/2 
Organization: S-MOS, Inc
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:02:08 GMT

Hi!
 
I'm having problems printing with Quicken for windows running in a
seamless WINOS2 window under OS/2 (original 2.0 version).  When I
generate a list and then try to print it, Quicken asks confirmation
for the printer (:lpt1,OS2) and then dies.  It's death is strange
since the window does not disappear, it justs does not refresh
anymore.  The only way to kill the program is by using the OS/2
window list.  No printouts ever come out.
 
I have used W4W in a seamless window before and after the above
situation and it printed without any problems.
 
As anyone seen this problem?  As anyone fixed this problem?
 
Thanks for any help!
 
Eric (email: eric@smos.com)
 
PS: I have NOT tried running quicken under full screen WINOS2
From: ucbked@athena (Earl H. Kinmonth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Date: 28 Sep 1992 18:02:04 GMT
Organization: Centre for Japanese Studies, Univ. of Sheffield
NNTP-Posting-Host: athena.berkeley.edu


Some points that do not seem to have been raised in this thread:

Availabilty:

In the UK, you have to work to find OS-2.  I visited half a dozen
stores in London on Tottenham Court Road before I found ~one~
that stocked OS-2. 

Last night, as an experiment, I checked Computer Shopper, a
500-plus page rag consisting mostly of computer adverts.  I found
more adverts for Xenix/Unix than for Os-2.  Even DRDOS was far
more prominent.

Documentation:

The documentation that comes with OS-2 is grossly inadequate for
all but the most simple installations.  Considering that OS-2 is
getting close to UNIX/X-Windows in size and complexity, it is
nowhere near as well documented.

Robustness:

I've been running Xenix on Intel platforms from the 8086 (!) on
up and can count crashes requiring system reboots in terms of
n/year where n is a small number, say 1 or 2.  I can achive the
same rate with the divisor in hours if not minutes with OS-2. (Of
course this is a quantum improvement over MSDOS where the divisor
is minutes if not seconds.)

Just one example: OS-2 has many problems with swap files of a
kind that Xenix/Unix systems either avoid or handle gracefully.

For the record:

I am pushing OS-2 in my department.  It strikes me as a very good
alternative to Windows.  It also seems to be the first IBM
product that is user driven.  (I started programming in 1968 when
IBM was clearly holding back technology to protect the lease
value of keypunches and other mechnical devices.)  I would like
to see OS-2 succeed, if for no other reason than to take the wind
out of the Micro$haft sails.  But if marketing in the UK is
anything to go by, Billy G. need not be worried.
-- 
earl h. kinmonth, centre for japanese studies, university of sheffield,
sheffield, england s10 2tn  jp1ek@sunc.sheffield.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: cummins@a.cs.okstate.edu (CUMMINS JOHN WILLI)
Subject: Re: Why OS/2 **WILL** fail
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 18:49:00 GMT

Why make them read only?
Making them hidden makes them immune to "del *" and also leaves them editable
IF you know where they are.  I guess in a "war" environment like a public
lab... read only (or an automatic restore of the originals) are options.

But for a personal system... hiding them makes them safe from deletion with
wildcards.

jc
From: mai@cc.uow.edu.au (Van Dao Mai)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: ObjectVision for Windows - any have it?
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:08:34 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong

Hello there,
    I have ObjectVision for OS/2. It is working OK and I like it.
Any one has a copy for Windows? I already paid for the OS/2
version. It is ridiculous that I will have to pay for the Windows
version that is identical and a little less in functions. One
can use both versions one one knows how to use one of them.
    Any one has a copy of the version for Windows? Let's be honest.
I am asking for a swap. Bugger what the company may say!

Cheers

Van Dao
Australia
Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.apps:6655 comp.os.os2.misc:31522
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: GRE-Win3.1 Reports can go to CIS
Keywords: OS/2, GRE, Win3.1
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:35:56 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab


It is possible for anyone who wishes to send along comments, problems,
and bug reports to IBM's forum on Compuserve - there is a general 
account 76711.610@compuserve.com, plus I asked Sam Detweiler, who has
been responding on CIS, and he agreed that he would also take messages
from the net. His account is 71075.2430@compuserve.com

This would appear to be a one-way street at present, unless someone 
knows of a reverse route. In other words, you can send in info, but
there seems to be no direct route for replies. Info posted on CIS
seems to be reported back here in any case, so stay tuned. In any 
case, for those who were asking about where to send reports on the 
beta, here it is.

Tom
 
P.S. I notice on the OS2 echo on FidoNet that Lee Reiswig has been 
"connected", and is discussing OS/2 directions with people there,
so check it out on a local BBS.
From: hpw@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry P Warren)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: simple q: bigger windows? scrollable windows?
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:05:21 GMT
Reply-To: hpw@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Harry P Warren)
Organization: Columbia University


October 4, 1992

Hello,

  Is there any way to resize os/2 command line sessions to anything
larger than 80x25? Is there any way to make sessions that are
"buffered" or "scrollable"? It seems so simple . . . 

harry warren
hpw@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
From: cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler)
Subject: Password protected folders (Was: Re: Lost a possible NT person)
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 17:17:17 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.14 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler)
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

FYI, IBM has a package available for purchase called the RESTRICTED SHELL.
What this package does is create a folder class that enables password access
and a few other features. Call your local IBM rep (not the OS/2 numbers) to
get more info.

Cliff Nadler (cnadler@vnet.ibm.com)
IBM Federal Systems Company - TEAM OS/2

Disclaimer: This post represents the views of the poster, not IBM Corporation.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal)
Subject: Re: where is dirman20.zip?
Keywords: dirman20.zip hobbes
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:50:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.195512.23244@Urmel.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE> kotulla@scapa.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Axel Kotulla) writes:
>Yesterday it was in pub/uploads, but I think the file contains an error,
>because
>after starting the program a window opens and closes just immediately
>afterwards.
>
>Axel
>
>

Hello.  I d/l it off of Hobbes (it was in the pub/uploads dir) and it
works just fine.  The author has a compuserve account and has replied
to all of my questions that I have sent her through the InterNet.

I have already sent in the registration, it is cheap and worth it.
IMHO, of course.  :)
From: lbv2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (m.l. gore)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: W4W Stuff (Was WfW 2.0? (SOLVED??))
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:00:21 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>icon (with setting set to Winodws 3.1). When I launched word from a
>full-screen WinOS2 3.1 seession, no warning about SHELL.DLL, OLECLI.DLL,
>and OLESVR.DLL being missing.

>
>Anyway, I went ahead and copied the three DLL from my /mindows/system
>into my /os2/mdos/winos2 (hope I got that right) and now the fonts and


In case you don't know, this is not necessary. Which evey environment you
install from (3.0, or 3.1), it assumes that these files are in your path.

I installed W4W with WINos2 31, but when I tried to run it with 3.0, same
shpeel.

All you have to do is modify your autoexec.bat to include whatever directory
has these files, or create your own custom a.bat file and load with that
session.

For my system, and most others, you need to add C:\WINOS231\System  (or
whatever drive you have).

ON another note pertaining to winos231, has anyone else looked at the win.ini
file for 3.1? I say this because I cannot get my favorite font, CG TIMES, in
W4W.

WHen I compared ini files, I noticed that the 3.1 file has an extra section
titled [Font Substitute]. I deleted some parts of this containing a Times=New
Roman.. line, but am unsure if this corrected the problem (I havn't printed
anythin out yet.)

DOes anyone have an explanation for this line? I understand some of the other
fonts are related to TrueType, but why substitute the Times fonts??



                                        later,

                                        bvl
-- 

   ---------------------------------
  | Brian Van Lieu                  |         Let the MS Gods know
  | Lehigh University               |     they cannot rule the application
  | lbv2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu          |     world anymore.
  |                                 |         Tell Gates that he must make
  | ' You can't change the world    |     good on his promises for support.
From: patrick.macroy@scintill (Patrick Macroy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: HPFS BACKUP
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:47:00 GMT
Reply-To: patrick.macroy@scintill (Patrick Macroy)
Organization: Scintillation BBS - Lombard, Illinois - 708-953-4922

What Backup software (OS/2 or DOS) would you reccomend for backingup a  210 mb. HPFS drive?  Data compression is a must!  Thanks in advance for your help! 
 
Patrick MacRoy 


 * KWQ/2 1.0.5 * 
                                                             
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: eguerrino@email.bony.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS to release PM32 Word & Excel?  NOT
Date: 27 Sep 92 12:42:57 GMT
Organization: ***

In article <1992Sep25.003425.16502@microsoft.com>, tomjo@microsoft.com (Tom Johnston) writes:
> Why should Msft (or anyone else) write apps for PM32?  OS/2 runs
> Windows apps (or so IBM tells me).  I'll just stick with Windows apps.
> 
> Tom Johnston
> tomjo@microsoft.com

because they are missing an opportunity, and because, since they already
had OS/2 versions of some of their products, it should be easier for them
to create 32-bit versions under OS/2 than some other companies.
regardless of what Msft says about OS/2 and NT and Win, some compamies,
some rather large ones, will choose or have chosen OS/2 as the platform
for deployment of mission critical applications that require high
reliability and data integrity, background communications to other systems
over a LAN, both PC servers (file, database) and SNA mainframes, 
transparent access to DB2 using facilities already provided by IBM
mainframe systems software without the need for third-party "gateways"
that introduce another failure point, etc.

as part of that platform, users will need commercial software typical
of the PC environment, such as wordprocessing, spreadsheets, etc., that
will have to coexist with corporate application systems. And the corporate
developers, given a choice, will always configure the platform with 
commercial software that is native to the operating system, not one that
runs under emulation and may compromise the integrity of the system,
or reduces the overall throughput or which does not maximize its use
of features provided by the platform.

eric
eguerrino@email.bony.com
From: lclarke@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Lee Clarke)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: OS/2 Fax
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:59:23 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

880506s@dragon.acadiau.ca (James R. Skinner) writes:


>	I am about to buy a 14.4 bps  Fax/modem and wanted to check to make
>sure that my purchase will work with PMfax.  

I don't know about those specific modems, but I can tell you, after
suffering substantial grief (from which I'm not yet entirely free),
I most strongly advise you to call the software companies BEFORE
you get the modem. Get the numbers, and discounts, from the IBM
Solutions Coupon Book. L. Clarke
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: rommel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Kai-Uwe Rommel)
Subject: Re: Microsoft C/C++ 7.0 runs under OS/2?
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 18:04:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.073548.1@email.bony.com> eguerrino@email.bony.com writes:
>Even if the MS C/C++ 7 compiler with the patches can run under
>OS/2, the real question is whether or not it can be used to create
>OS/2 applications. If so, is it creating 16-bit or 32-bit code?
>If not, then it is useless for OS/2 developers.
>Does any one know if the patches provide full support for OS/2
>development? Several people in my company are in real need for
>a c++ compiler that supports 32-bit OS/2, and we are just about
>ready to forget about zortech and borland.

Microway has a native 32-bit C++ compiler for OS/2. It is listed in the
latest Programmers Connection buyers guide for $595.

Kai Uwe Rommel

/* Kai Uwe Rommel --- rommel@informatik.tu-muenchen.de */

DOS ... is still a real mode only non-reentrant interrupt
handler, and always will be.                -Russell Williams
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: SYS3175 from Dirman 2.0?
From: GRIGG@dirac.physics.jmu.edu (Steve Grigg)
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:13:27 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: JMU Physics Dept.
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24


  I got the demo version of DIRMAN 2.0 the other day and have begun receiving
sys3175 errors. Anyone having similar experience and/or fix. It's really
nothing more than a nuisance at this point. Thanks in advance.

Steve
Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.apps:6762 comp.os.os2.advocacy:6677
From: kevinc@aupair.cs.athabascau.ca (Kevin Crocker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.advocacy
Subject: Re: MS ready to release 32-bit Word & Excel?!?! Read on...
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:49:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: aupair.kevinc.717968959
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.apps

goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal) writes:

>going from 8 to 16(the smallest leap possible) will involve selling
>all the 1megs SIMMS and buying 4megs SIMMS.

>Either a bunch of people are not going to want to go through the 
>trouble, or their will be 1 meg SIMMS everywhere you look!  :)

Hey, no problem, just take all those 1Mb SIMMS and toss 'em in a Mac -
they work just fine and it's a hell of a lot cheaper than getting
Apple's SIMM upgrades.

So, for the price of 8Mb you can get a hell'o'va nice PC and upgrade
your Mac so it's a bit better.

Kevin

P.S. Sorry, couldn't resist. :-)
--
Kevin "autark" Crocker (Athabasca University)
kevinc@cs.AthabascaU.CA  -or-  risk@cs.AthabascaU.CA
From: ygoland@edison.seas.ucla.edu (The Jester)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Word for Windows Seemless & Full Screen Windows Problem
Date: 1 Oct 92 07:35:33 GMT
Organization: PGP VER2 Key Available Upon Request

Normally I run word for windows (whatever the very latest public
release is) in a seemless window. I'v been doing it for a long time
and have had no problems. But when I tried to do it today the
following happened:I put the cursor on the word icon, I clicked, the
icon showed the video for 'selected', the arrow turned to a clock
for a second, and then that was it. End of story.

I then went into full screen windows mode and entered word without
any problem. However I THEN switched screens from my 800x600x256
windows screen to my 800x600x16 os/2 screen. When I switched back to
windows, the windows screen was obviously in 640x480x256 mode (and
you can imagine what the screen looked like), when I then switched
back to os/2, the screen was completely splattered (But a refresh
fixed the problem).

I have done both of the above activities regularly in the past
without ANY problems. So I'm very concerned about this change in
events. Oh and I installed word under win os/2 directly instead of
migrating it.

I am running off:
486/33
8 megs ram
1 meg super vga trident card
210 western digital pyrahnna

Thanks,
			The Jester
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