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Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Friday, 18 Dec 1992 09:57:19 PST
From: <WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Alternate tunings .... any ideas???
 <Bz04CC.GD8@ns1.nodak.edu>,<7623@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk>
 <1992Dec18.163101.12362@news.cs.brandeis.edu>

In article <1992Dec18.163101.12362@news.cs.brandeis.edu>,
littlefield@binah.cc.brandeis.edu says:
>
>In article <7623@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk>, martin@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk
>(Martin Gorman) writes:
>>jhalvers@plains (Jon Halverson) writes:

>>>Check out the guitar player issue w/ Sonic Youth on the cover. If you
>>>can't find it, mabey I could dig it up. They're pretty bizare. BTW Sonic
>>>Youth tours w/ 25 guitars, all tuned different, none standard.

>>That must be why they sound so crap and of out of tune

>        hehehehe. That's true for most of the "alternative scene." These
>people who think that they're being creative and artsy are using that as a
>poor excuse for not learning how to play. (eg. Jane's Addiction and Pixies!!
>man...that's just noise).

I'm no fan of groups like the Pixies either but maybe "just noise" is what they
are trying to play.  I don't care to start an extended philosophical discussion
of modern music nor do I think this is the proper forum to do so.  Suffice it
to say that every generation produces new forms that are incomprehensible to
previous generations.  Witness contemporary reaction to the premiere of
Beethoven's Ninth Symphony, Paganini's violin works or the French
Impressionists.

Tell us you don't like it, then tell us why.

Brian

Now if you were talking about rap...
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Subject: Re: SleepWalker Movie slide song ?
Organization: Logic Modelling Inc of Beaverton Oregon
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:41:33 GMT

In article <ROUSSEAF.92Dec11181654@saguenay.IRO.UMontreal.CA> rousseaf@saguenay.IRO.UMontreal.CA (Francois Rousseau) writes:
>I've heard in a movie named SleepWalker, near the end, a
>great pedal steel (I think) song. It was very slow and passionate. The
>scene where it is heard actually shows one of the main actor putting
>a 45' rpm on an old stereo (before eating a young lady...).
>
>I've heard this ballad before, it's an oldie, may be a classic. It's
>instrumental. What is the title ?

    That would be "Sleepwalk" by Santo and Johnny.  Jeff Beck has
    covered this, which may be the version that was used in the movie.
    The Beck version can be found in the "Beckology" boxed set; the
    original must be on some "Oldies" compilation somewhere.

    The instrument was probably a lap steel, but could have been done
    on a electric Spanish.  As I recall, Santo and Johnny were brothers
    (I think there was at least one other brother, maybe more.)

    This is definitely a guitar classic.  I never thought of it as dinner
    music, though...

    - Larry Huntley

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From: v201lrxa@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NOWHERE MAN)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Sleep Walk
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:25:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Does anyone have tab to that song? 

mike
From: dnj@barbeque.verity.com (Dave Johansen)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Stupid Marshall/Bassman tricks???
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:50:25 GMT
Reply-To: dnj@barbeque.verity.com (Dave Johansen)
Organization: Verity, Inc.  1550 Plymouth Ave, Mt. View, CA 94043


Last night while purchasing a Marshall Bluesbreaker (JTM 45)
the guy I bought it from had an interesting setup. He had the
cord going into input I, but had a short lead running from the 
second lead I into the upper input of II. This appearred to increase
gain/saturation/something which I found pretty cool.. well anyway
I also have a Bassman ('59 reissue) and I was curious if anyone
has tried this trick w/o adverse effect on the Bassman.. I use the
old turn up the second volume (normal) while plugged into the
bright for a slight gain effect.

advTHANKSance

-dnj
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Stupid Marshall/Bassman tricks???
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:37:29 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Dec17.175025.12741@verity.com> dnj@barbeque.verity.com (Dave Johansen) writes:
>
>Last night while purchasing a Marshall Bluesbreaker (JTM 45)
>the guy I bought it from had an interesting setup. He had the
>cord going into input I, but had a short lead running from the 
>second lead I into the upper input of II. This appearred to increase
>gain/saturation/something which I found pretty cool.. well anyway
>I also have a Bassman ('59 reissue) and I was curious if anyone
>has tried this trick w/o adverse effect on the Bassman.. I use the
>old turn up the second volume (normal) while plugged into the
>bright for a slight gain effect.
>

On the old Marshalls (JTM's, Mk II's, etc with the four inputs), the internal
wiring from the two pairs of input jacks to their respective two preamp stages
was wired so that by adding this jumper, you would cause the two preamp stages
to be daisy-chained together, in effect feeding the output of preamp I into
the input of preamp II for a net result similar to the single channel JCM 800
series single channel amps. This was accomplished by using special switching
jacks on the channel II inputs. Unfortunately, your Bassman doesn't have this
capability, adding the jumper between channels only parallels the two channels,
to series-connect them will require some internal mods.


-- 
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	      doh #0000001200
         "Let us learn to dream, gentlemen, and then perhaps
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers.bass
From: lui@netcom.com (Stephen Lui)
Subject: Bass Tuner Recommendations
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:52:18 GMT

I used a friend's guitar tuner to tune my bass by using harmonics (touching the
5th (?) fret and picking the string). I need my own tuner for my bass as well
as my acoustic guitar and possible a future electric guitar. Any suggestions?

Stephen
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: 4v5  was(Attitude on the newsgroup)
From: aesbl1ajm@dct.ac.uk
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:04:53 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <Bz7K7r.556@world.std.com>, mlaurenc@world.std.com (Matt Laurence) writes:
> Ian Stephenson wrote:
> 
>>Five strings is for wimps!!
>>Four is the requisite number!
> 
> Well, bud, I hope you've staisfied your own playing limitations
> with that little mantra, but don't cast aspersions on others just
> 'coz YOU don't do it. Does that make six-stringers TWICE as
> wimpy as 5-string players? How about 12-strings? Just because
> someone isn't playing with a bare-bones instrument doesn't mean
> they're using a crutch. Do you play with any effects on? I mean
> ANYTHING? How about EQ, or compression? Maybe a little reverb
> now and then, hmm? Well, toss aside your feeble aids if you are
> such the purist. Damn, play an acoustic without amplification
> for that matter if you REALLY wanna get tecnical. More power
> to you if you can play like Jaco or Victor W. without any aid.
> I've said before and I'll say again, no number of effects or
> extra devices is going to make anyone a better player. But 
> having and using them doesn't mean they're any WORSE. So keep
> your low-level judgements to yourself.
> 
> Maybe they could be a little lower if you had a fifth string.
> 
> *flame off*
> 
> Matt


Whether you use 4,5,6,8,12,or 18 strings, it's not the number of strings
you have, but it is how you use them. Some players use the extra stings 
to add a bit extra to their playing, to make it more individual. OK, Stu
uses a four string, with the extender, does this mean he can half play 
bass, that is, he can play bass until he uses the extender?
From: rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: PEAVEY!
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:25:37 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Dec18.170143.8667@head-cfa.harvard.edu>, eskridge@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Paul Eskridge) writes...
> 
>jphillip asks:
> 
>>Can anyone recomend some good practice amps (bass) in the $200 range?
> 
> 
>BLECK!!!
> 
>PEAVEY -- a waste of money at ANY price
> 
>(This should be FUN!)
>Paul

Ok, Paul:

Now answer the question...name a good practice amp in the $200 range without
mentioning the word Peavey.

(This should be FUN)!)

8^)  8^)

See you all in alt.music.peavey-sucks-and-must-die!

8^)  8^)

					Brian Rost @tecrus.enet.dec.com

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: mlaurenc@world.std.com (Matt Laurence)
Subject: Re: 4v5  was(Attitude on the newsgroup)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:21:26 GMT

Ian Stephenson wrote:

>Five strings is for wimps!!
>Four is the requisite number!

Well, bud, I hope you've staisfied your own playing limitations
with that little mantra, but don't cast aspersions on others just
'coz YOU don't do it. Does that make six-stringers TWICE as
wimpy as 5-string players? How about 12-strings? Just because
someone isn't playing with a bare-bones instrument doesn't mean
they're using a crutch. Do you play with any effects on? I mean
ANYTHING? How about EQ, or compression? Maybe a little reverb
now and then, hmm? Well, toss aside your feeble aids if you are
such the purist. Damn, play an acoustic without amplification
for that matter if you REALLY wanna get tecnical. More power
to you if you can play like Jaco or Victor W. without any aid.
I've said before and I'll say again, no number of effects or
extra devices is going to make anyone a better player. But 
having and using them doesn't mean they're any WORSE. So keep
your low-level judgements to yourself.

Maybe they could be a little lower if you had a fifth string.

*flame off*

Matt
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: umnevile@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Benkamin Bowles Nevile)
Subject: Re: 4v5 was(Attitude on the newsgroup)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:32:54 GMT

>Jimmy Haslip of the Yellowjackets plays a five, I believe. He's the only one
>I can think off the top of my head who uses a five for his main axe. Victor
>Wooten has a fretless five which he plays in his live shows on 2-3 songs.

Jimmy Haslip uses a six string, and he strings it backwards.

(Just a little correction.)

There are lots of good five string players.. .. er .. er .. er ..

Well, I can't think of any offhand.  I guess if you were going to make the
jump to five, people would say that it's stupid to stop there; why not go
to six?  

Plbet.  When I was making my decision I knew the five-string would not
help my playing.  I sure do like being able to double scale without having
to do a position switch, though!  Can't do that on a four string.

[]
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com (John Phillips)
Subject: Practice Amp Advice ?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:48:22 GMT
Reply-To: jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Government Aerospace Systems Division
Keywords: Help

This is the first time that I've signed on to this news group and I need
some advice. Can anyone recomend some good practice amps (bass) in the $200 range?

Thanks 
J.P.
From: bshirley@mizar.usc.edu (Frozen Toes)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: REPOST:  Acoustic for sale...
Date: 14 Dec 1992 16:57:37 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

White Kramer acoustic bass for sale...4-string hollow body (for the "real
purist"  :-}).  Built in mic and other goodies...
	
Interested?  Make an offer or just ask a question or two...

Bry
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: mlaurenc@world.std.com (Matt Laurence)
Subject: Re: 4v5
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:29:22 GMT

In article <92343.122208U59919@uicvm.uic.edu> <U59919@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>A bass is a 4 stringed instrument.
>The 5 and 6 stringed peices of wood that are called basses are not basses.
>They are a whole differant creature.
>Note that. note it well.

Damn! What is this wholesale snobbery I'm finding about 4-strings
these days? What makes the 5- or 6-strings ANY different from the
4-string, other than the extra strings? Their fundamental role
in the music is the same, unless otherwise defined by individual
players. So Dan Pifer, the bassist from God Street Wine, who keeps
a killer 6-string groove non-stop, is not a real bassist? Nor is
Mike Gordon from Phish who plays ONLY five strings? Or Percy Jones?
Can someone enlighten me... did I miss something?

Matt
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers.bass
From: carl@montebello.ecom.unimelb.EDU.AU (Carl Brewer)
Subject: Re: Bass Tuner Recommendations
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:30:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.215218.17448@netcom.com> lui@netcom.com (Stephen Lui) writes:
>I used a friend's guitar tuner to tune my bass by using harmonics (touching the
>5th (?) fret and picking the string). I need my own tuner for my bass as well
>as my acoustic guitar and possible a future electric guitar. Any suggestions?
>
>Stephen

Boss TU-12 is the best bet (IMHO)

cheers

carl




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From: hlh5721@zeus.tamu.edu (JIMI HENDRIX)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Fender Squire P-Bass & Crate B20XL amp forsale
Date: 18 Dec 1992 22:57 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zeus.tamu.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    



For sale****************


Fender Squier seris Precision Bass.  

I'ts red and in great shape!! 

Only things wrong are a couple of small chips
on the back that are basically not visible unless you pick up the guitar and
look at the back.  Since it is red you could fix them quite easily and well
with some glossy red fingernail polish.  I have not done this because I don't
have any red fingernail polish and I don't necessarily want to take my bass into
the local Revco to match the color


I bought it in June/july of '91 for a little over $300 (yes, I paid too much!)

Selling it because was looking for something different and got a Jazz Bass.

Asking around $150 but will consider any reasonable offer (PLEASE NOTE THE USE
						OF THE WORD REASONABLE!!!!)


Great learning guitar (Worked wonderfully for me) and just in time for Xmas.

Shipping is not a problem Because i still have the box my Jazz bass came in.



I also have a Crate B20XL amp that I may sell If i get a god enough offer for.
	It is a wonderful amp that is great for practicing but is not quite 
	loud enough for playing with a band.  I still have almost 4 years left
	on the extended warranty!!    $125.....firm.


Feel free to E-Mail with any questions you may have

Make me an offer!!!!!







LEE HUDDLESTON,                 
Texas A&M University,
College St. TX

"This views expressed are mine and are not necessarily those of
  Texas A&M University, its faculty, staff nor students"
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: webb@chopin.udel.edu (W Webb Pickersgill)
Subject: Re: Practice Amp Advice ?
Keywords: Help
Organization: University of Delaware - What state is that in?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:26:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.210049.10272@news.nd.edu> fdeck@vyasa.helios.nd.edu (francis deck) writes:
>I have a Peavey amp, and unconditionally endorse their entire
>product line for being inexpensive, good-sounding, very well-
>designed and reliable.  My suggestion for a practice amp is
>to buy one which sounds good with your bass, but also sounds
>good with a guitar or microphone.  You never know when you'll
>love to use it for a mini-PA for that mall gig.

	Yes, I remember many a time using a peavey amp to power
a gig.  Very reliable!
					Webb

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass,rec.music.makers.bass
From: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: Query on practice amps...
Reply-To: michael@monitor.com (Michael Johnson)
Organization: Monitor Company / IE
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 18:01:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.143306.21783@news.nd.edu> fdeck@vyasa.helios.nd.edu  
(francis deck) writes:
> OK... enough about Peavey amps... here's a question for the
> group on "practice" amps:  How powerful does a practice amp
> need to be?  Suppose a practice amp had a built-in compressor/
> limiter, so it couldn't be pushed into clipping accidentally.
> Then, how little power could you get away with?  

I used to have a Peavey 130 of some kind, and I think that was the minimum,  
simply because drums are LOUD and you need to hear yourself over them.  I was  
engaging the automatic limiter on that sucker a lot.  If the drummer plays  
quiet for practice, then you won't actually know what you sound like until  
you do a gig, which leads to un-amusing surprises.  Not to mention, you'll  
eventually do a small gig like a college party (especially if you're in  
college) and you won't have a PA--your "practice" amp will have to be loud  
enough to play a small room alone.
From: eskridge@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Paul Eskridge)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: PEAVEY!
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:01:43 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA


jphillip asks:

>Can anyone recomend some good practice amps (bass) in the $200 range?

Webb Pickersgill replies,

>PEAVEY!!!

To which I MUST rejoin,

BLECK!!!

PEAVEY -- a waste of money at ANY price

(This should be FUN!)
Paul
From: h0271@mtek.chalmers.se (K.G)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Chapman stick
Keywords: Im really interested in buying a stick.Could anyone E-mail me information about
 models,prices,etc...
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:15:06 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology


                                Thanks/K.G   E-mail2:  h0271@mtek.chalmers.se

                                
  P.S. The bassplayer in D.A.D uses a 2-string bass,and he seems to be 
       doing fine.My recomendation is that you spend your time practicing instead
       of complaing about other peoples preferences D.S
       
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: ron@vicorp.com (Ron Peterson)
Subject: Re: Home-made pickups?
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:47:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.022145.29747@news.nd.edu> fdeck@darwin.helios.nd.edu (francis deck) writes:
>Does anybody have any experience with home-made bass pickups,

I made a pickup for a homemade single string bass.  I took a plastic
sewing bobbin and wound 32 gauge enameled wire on it (using a sewing
machine's bobbin winder to spin the bobbin).  Remember to let a good
length of the inner lead of the wire stick out the side before you
start winding so you can connect both ends.  I wrapped tape around
the bobbin to hold the wire in place but melted wax or glue would
probably be better.  I cut a piece of steel rod (from hardware store)
to be slightly longer than the length of the hole throught the bobbin 
and glued it into the hole and glued the whole assembly to a round
flat magnet the same diameter as the bobbin.  Attach the wires to
a quarter inch phone jack and you can plug it into any standard
guitar amp, mixer, or tape input.  Output level is a little lower
that my strat but pretty good.  Looks like this from the side:
       _
   ___| |___
    xx| |xx
    xx| |xx
    xx| |xx
  [[[[[]]]]]]

I used a cheap magnet (from a plastic shower curtain).  A more powerful
magnet (alnico/rare earth) might improve signal level.  Wind wire onto
bobbin till it is almost filled to edge.
ron@vicorp.com or uunet!vicorp!ron
From: sz5dnl@cpc3.cpceng.cpc.gmeds.com (Hank Marvin)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Practice Amp Advice ?
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:04:18 GMT
Reply-To: sz5dnl@cpc3.cpceng.cpc.gmeds.com
Organization: GM/EDS NAO

I just bought an old Ampeg B-15n and its quite nice, also cheap. 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: fdeck@vyasa.helios.nd.edu (francis deck)
Subject: Re: PEAVEY!
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:02:03 GMT

I can only say that PEAVEY bass amps are the best I've played.
I can't vouch for their speakers, since I played through the 
same Centurion head for 10 perfectly reliable years before
switching to an amp of my own design.  As for sound, I think
Peavey heads sound great, but that how your bass sounds is   
far more of a function of how you play than what kind of amp
you have.

I have also seen the innards of my Peavey and the schematic,
and find the amp to be conservatively and very well designed.
The only amps which are better are the ones I designed, and
they're not available at any price ;-)

f.deck
physics
u. of notre dame

Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Subject: Re: 4v5
Reply-To: warsaw@nlm.nih.gov (Barry A. Warsaw)
Organization: Century Computing, Inc.
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:52:36 GMT


Anybody else out there ever played a 6-string piccolo bass? Most
people I know who have one play it with a pick and like distortion...

Oh yeah ---> :-)
Organization: University/Publications & Printing, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:39:45 -0500 
From: "Daniel E. Tyson" <dt1z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Marco Cerletti

I'm looking for a cd by Marco Cerletti called Random and Provedence. He
plays a Chapman Stick.
Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks
Dan
Newsgroups: alt.guitar.bass
From: whale@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stephen Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Query on practice amps...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 18:43:12 GMT

  I have a Crate B-20, and it's not quite the minimum I could deal with but
it's pretty close. I suspect 10 would be too few, probably the minimum is
around 15 for my tastes. I don't think I've ever seen a bass amp with
fewer than 20 watts made, which should suggest something...?
  Of course, things like speaker efficiency make a difference in this debate
also, but there's not much point in making a 10-watt amp and then putting
a super-efficient $500 speaker in it, is there?  ;)
-- 
Steve Schmidt			<><		   whale@leland.stanford.edu
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist
indoctrination, Communist subversion, and the international Communist
conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids!
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