HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tortlieb@lonestar.utsa.edu (Travis J. Ortlieb)
Subject: Re: Know of any motorcycles movies?
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:54:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.214844.21190@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <1993Jan12.200002.7178@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>>In article <104506@netnews.upenn.edu> ggrevera@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (George Grevera) writes:
>>>I'd like to compile a list of motorcycle movies or movies with good or
>>>significant motorcycle action in them.  Then I'd like to add the list
>>>to the FAQ if possible.
>
>"Electra Glide in Blue", starring Robert "I used to be a Little Rascal" Blake.
>
>There's at least one Chuck Norris movies (Delta Force?) that has him spending
>a little time on a missile-equipped dirt bike.  Not scads of moto-action,
>but gratuitous moto-action anyhow...
>
>
>--
>Jonathan E. Quist                              Lachman Technology, Incorporated
>jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
> __       There's nothing quite like the pitter-patter of little feet,
> \/                   followed by the words "Daddy!  Yay!"

What about the new one with Van-Damme?  Haven't seen it, but the previews
show him on a bike...

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'75 Honda 550F Rat-bike   |   UTSA will disclaim any knowledge of my existance
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From: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: MotoWear by DarkMan----Finally
Date: 6 Jan 1993 16:04:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu



No, I'm not dead.

A while ago (months?), a few people asked about the MotoWear suit.  Well,
what follows is an attempt to answer a few of those questions.

MotoWear International
A division of Danoc Manufacturing Corp.
6885 Luher Drive, Unit C
Sacremento, CA  95823
1-800-333-3155

At last check, the suit went for $349 plus tax and shipping.


They come in four color combinations: (body/accents) red/black, red/blue,
black/blue, black red.

Mens and Womens sizes are available in S,M,L,XL and in short and long lengths.

100% money back guarantee if not satisfied.

It is water resistant, but does not use Gore-tex.  There is soft armor at
the shoulders, elbows, and knees which is removable.  The seams are
sewn with Kevlar thread.  There's this tuff called Keprotec at the 
shoulders, elbows, knees, and fanny over the body of the suit.  These
Keprotec patches are Kevlar thread interwoven with Lycra.  The body of the
suit itself in Cordura nylon.  There is flow through venting and the suit
is lined with CoolMax.  NAd for those of you in colder climes, there is an
electric vest port.

My impressions are that it was definitely worth the $$$.  The ankles and
wrists seal with velcro straps, as does the neck.  The main zipper (the
only one in fact) has a flap that covers it with velcro running the
entire length.  The suit is basically windproof.  It is comfortable, 
although my one big gripe is that there is only one pocket, a big
rectangular on the the chest.  There is a reflective strip across the
back.   I have the red/black suit and find is very attractive (and it
matches my black and red ALazzurra).  

It seems very well put together and the quality level is high.  I am
very comfortable in it to about 30 degrees F even though it is not
insulated.  I just wear some sweats and a turtleneck.  Your results may
vary.  AT less that freeway speeds, cold weather would be no problem.
I have no basis to judge warm weather performance because it hasn't been
warm in Cleveland since October.  I'll hopefully find out in a few
months.

The guy who I talked to on the phone was very helpful and answered alll my
questions.  He must be a good guy, he rides a Ducati (and a BMW).

I do not regret this monetary expenditure in the least, and would do it
again if I needed to.

If you have any questions, feel free to ask me.  I'll probably even respond
to them now.

ANd no, I do not have any formal association with MotoWear, it's FYI only.

-- 
-------------------->DarkMan<--------------DoD #650-----------------------
New .sig in the works chock full of fantastic good news (at least for me).
More follows...
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From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Subject: Re: Bike Stolen - replacement cost?
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:15:48 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.


>In article <1993Jan08.003513.22065@vpbuild.vp.com>, jessea@u013.me.vp.com (Jesse W. Asher) writes:
>|> Well, I just got my first motorcycle about a month ago and I've already
>|> had it stolen.  I'm not pleased with the insurance company and I wanted
>|> to get some opinions about how much my bike might be worth.
>|> 
>|> I had a '79 Kawasaki KZ650SR (4 cylinder) with a Vetter faring (Windstar is
>|> the model) that was a half faring.  It was a full-frame mount faring.


Go to a local bike dealer, they have a blue book for motorcycles with a 
wholsale and retail price for all bikes.

The book is called the NADA Blue Book

Dave
DoD 1085

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From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: More amusing BMW trivia... (christmas continues)
Summary: Soreheads arrise!
Keywords: bmw ducati sorehead get-even sputter
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 18:42:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.155116.6098@triage.UUCP> chris@triage.UUCP (Wheres my 650TT2 Ducati) writes:
>When last I left you, some vile and evil person had me vetted as a
>member of the silliest bunch of loons this side of the Moonies.  In
>fact, if you'll recall, the Moonies were found to be a splinter group
>of the original BMWMOA membership.  We now take up our story at the
>point there the female mail delivery women has brought a few more
>items of interest:

   [***]  several mouth frothing paragraphs deleted.

>Here was a publication that contains all the known ___(careful, Groucho,
>you don't want to offend anyone. ed) willing to be aroused by a call
>for mercy.  This on top of the already vaunted "reliability" of the
>bmw motorcycle(sic).  Why should such a book be required?  Unless, that
>is, the devices in question aren't what they are advertised to be.

Being a Ducati owner, he can't understand this.  Close observation
shows that 99.4% of the Ducati owners ride less than 4812 miles per year,
and never more than 39 1/2 miles from home!  Covering distances further
than that means that the Ducati be trailered close to the riding site,
and then rideen from there.

We do have evidence that the above Flame mouthed Denizen (FmD), Chis Perez,
has actually been seen riding a Ducati further than this from home; he 
evidently falls within the 0.06% not covered by the above 99.4%.  This
type of feat *can* be accomplished on a Ducati, provided one has spent 
the required 34 hours to adjust the valves first, and that one has no more
than 5003 total miles on the bike since the last major overhaul!

The FmD needs to gain understanding of the BMW riders approach to touring;
that if the BMW bike has less than 90,000 miles on it and if the valves
had the requisite 25 minute check performed within the last 10,000 miles
then the bike is surely good for the 4500 mile trip that the owner is
planning.  

Actual statistical sampling has shown that the average BMW rider takes 
at least one trip per year that is more miles than the average Ducati
bike ever gets in it's whole lifetime!

With the above in view, an impartial committee has deemed it understandable
that a BMW club would publish a list of owners that are willing to assist
other BMW owners with a problem while they are on the road.  



>Understanding and truth can be terrible things.

Uh huh ... that's why the FmD avoids this like the plague!


>Christopher Perez - chris@triage.rain.com
>The List->  Ducatis: 650TT2, 500SL, 860GT


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
               BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                           Columbus, Ohio

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From: howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curt Howland)
Subject: Re: To KotL
Organization: NASA Science Internet Project Office
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:48:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.193056.15988@ncsu.edu>, kegunn@eos.ncsu.edu (KAY ELLEN GUNN) writes:
|> 
|> Dear Kotl,
|> 
|> Please issue me a DoD number. I have been reading this group for a month now,
|> and I think I am finally ready to be initiated into this estimable group. I
|> can flame with the best of you.
|> 
|> Kay Gunn
|> '88 Yamaha

Look! Look!! Another "Gang FAQ" victim! Gods, I love this job....

---
Curt Howland "Ace"       DoD#0663       EFF#569
howland@nsipo.nasa.gov            '82 V45 Sabre
      I have given up my search for truth 
     and am now looking for a good fantasy.
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From: tomes@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: A tantalizing calender....
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:54:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.221515.9339@rtsg.mot.com> declrckd@rtsg.mot.com (Dan J. Declerck) writes:
>In article <C0FtnG.39E@fulcrum.co.uk> rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
>Very true, most of the Goldwings I've seen are ridden by guys weighing 300lbs
>wearing a baseball cap, and smoking a large cigar. Although there
I don't know why, but my stereotype of a Wing rider is 6' 170# woman with 
auburn hair and a distinct love of spinning rear wheels...  Of course, when
my wife isn't riding it, I don't see anyone else on it, so I could be biased.
BTW, I am 180# and wear a helmet.  And never smoke unless in bed.


CP "BMW my ass.  Look what Ernie just hooked up to the Wing! A fridge for
     beer!" Tomes

winter sucks.
From: cd1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Bradley Devlin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Bra, Bid, Ride for Site, Donation
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:49:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.YfGq7UG00WBL84P8sv
Organization: Fifth yr. senior, Materials Science and Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


   Well, I don't think my girlfriend or my wallet would understand a bid
(and what the hell would I do with said bra?  I doubt Jody is my size). 
But as a shiny new member of the DoD, I emptied my wallet and just sent
all $11 to the RfS, c/o Jody.  I didn't do this for nothing, though. 
Noooo.  I expect my name on a list somewhere, and not just another list
of People to Annoy Whenever You Happen to Run Across Them.

Devlin
        #
DoD #787  <---- Shiny new DoD #.  Now all I need is a shiney new job, so
I can get a shiney new bike.

'72 CB350F
From: fogelinc@nmr1.Cyanamid.COM (Carl Fogelin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Strangers on your bike (was: Protection
Date: 5 Jan 1993 23:22:46 GMT
Organization: American Cyanamid Company
Distribution: world
Reply-To: fogelinc@nmr1.Cyanamid.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: nmr1.pt.cyanamid.com

In article 144252RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET, Robert Chambers <RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET> () writes:
>How do you stop someone backing into your bike, knocking it over,
>picking it up and then not telling anyone since it only cracked the
>turn signal plastic?
>
>Answer: Your friends in the parking lot (this was > 10 years ago at high
>school) tell you and you go out to check it out, kick the shit out of one
>of the guys doors, and put a handful of sand in the gas tank - and don't
>tell them about it.

Gee, I wish I had thought of doing that.  Some years ago when I was living
in a more rural area, I drove a Nighthawk 750.  While working late one night,
some clown (actually a Cornell professor) backed into my bike.  When I left to
go home (around 11pm), the first hint that the bike had been hit was that one
of its footrests were bent.  Worse, the chain started to pop off the back
sprocket when I engaged the clutch.  (I managed to get the chain back on with
that dinky toolkit that came with the bike.  As for the footrest, I hammered it
into place).

Anyway, I happened to remember what the car looked like, so during the next couple
of weeks, I kept a watch for it.  One day I saw it.  I was talking to a colleague
when out of the corner of my eye I recognized the car.  There was a guy just
getting into it (which I didn't know).  He must have noticed me in the window, because by the time I ran out there to talk to him, he was gone and I heard squealing tires.  I never saw that car again.

I'm a reasonable fellow.  If the guy had left a note, I would have been much less
inclined to take a tire-iron to his windshield...  Actually, I did get a little
satisfaction.  That bike weighs about 550lbs.  The last time I had to upright it
I thought I was going to pop a hernia.  I can only hope ... ;)

Carl
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   "Sushi!   That's what my ex-wife called me.  Cold fish." -- Blade Runner

   Up the long ladder and down the short rope,
   To Hell with King Billy and God bless the Pope. -- traditional
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Physics of Crashes
Date: 4 Jan 1993 19:38:07 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 22989@drutx.ATT.COM, ljb@parkcity.dr.att.com (BLO54620-BonhamLJ(DR2194)240) writes:
>You'll have to forgive the elementary nature of this question as I am still
>trying to fully understand the dynamics of bike handling.

So is the net in general...   :^)

>I was watching some footage of Grand Prix bike races...

[exceeding traction in apex should result in low-side, no?]

>This assumption obviously didn't apply in the actual cases on the film.  So,
>what caused the front to suddenly buckle and pitch the rider?

First, those guys ride at the absolute edge of the possible, so it is
questionable how much of Grand Prix racing is extendable to the real
world.

I would guess, not having seen the scenes you reference, that either
the front or rear breaks loose (they are more or less constantly doing
so throughout the turn), and the rider is regaining control through
very quick inputs, bringing the bike back within traction limits.  At
least that's what it looked like on the last GP racing I watched, the
riders were jerking along what should have been a smooth sweeper.  I
suspect one overcorrected, or regained traction at a point when the
tires were no longer aligned, causing the highside.

Disclaimer:  I've never personally raced in a Grand Prix.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

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From: sirslick@athena.mit.edu (Vic V. Anand)
Subject: Re: Gang FAQ'd by the DoD!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:10:20 GMT

In <1993Jan5.182812.7686@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov 
(Tom Gent) writes:

>Hi, everyone.  I'm new to this group, and was thinking of buying a bike.
>What I was wondering, though, is whether you guys recommend that I get
>a helmet?  I've heard that they mess up your hair and obstruct your
>vision, but may be good to have in a crash.  I don't think I will crash 
>though, my neighbor is a pretty good teacher.  Also, are there any laws
>concerning helmets that I should be aware of?

Anybody stupid enough to ask whether or not he should wear a helmet should
not be allowed to wear one.  That way, when he does crash, he will remove
himself from the gene pool...

==================================================================================
Vic Anand      '88 Hurricane 1000
DoD# 779       anand@athena.mit.edu
Shoei RF-200

Two out of every one MIT students is schizophrenic.

"Where there's a will, there's a lawyer."  ---Me
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From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: A tantalizing calender....
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:59:40 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <1993Jan5.142001.46127@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> And as I gaze at the soft flowing lines and tantalizing nooks and 
>crannys and wonderful frames (oh yea, the bike's don't look bad either ;-),
>I can't help but wonder if a Goldwing calender exist.

Personally Goldwings *never* come into my mind when oggling flesh.

Regards,
============================================================================
Richard Taylor                  DoD #981                 (rct@fulcrum.co.uk)
"HELP! I've fallen, and I can't reach my beer."
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: morin@noao.edu (Meg Morin)
Subject: Hurray!
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson AZ
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:23:35 GMT

Just wanted to proclaim my membership to the DoD! Yeah!

My number: 0788

Thanks, Ed!

(now if I can just get a moto!)

Meg
-- 
   The Seeker	| I once wanted to save the world ... 
morin@noao.edu	| now I just want to leave the room with some dignity.
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Hi-Def shields
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 22:06:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.142738.10180@bnr.ca> space@bcarh2b1 (Scott Pace) writes:
>Can anyone offer opinions on High-definition face shields, for day and
>night riding?
>Do they remove the need for sunglasses during the day?

They're really great when it's cloudy. In the sun, they're better than
nothing but a dark shield is better. As far as needing sunglasses, I'd say
yes, but I sometimes where the sunglasses under my dark shield as well.
At night, I find the high-def sheild annoying, because it makes the white
lights kinda red, making it more difficult to tell what's coming and going.
I tried it on a dark country road at night, and found that it just cut out
too much light. It's ok for a quick jaunt in the city, but not otherwise.

If you must, you can get by in any conditions with it, but I'd still carry
the other shields for a longish trip.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Attn Jody!! Your bra for...
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:20:05 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

ed@Tekelec.Com (Ed Campbell) writes:
: In article <1993Jan5.054547.3358@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
: >
: >Curtis "My mother was an Abernethy, and my father was a MacShane" Jackson*
: >
: >* MacShane sounded Irish enough to get a lot of my family persecuted back
: >  when the Irish were being trod upon, so the name was changed to protect
: >  the innocent (or at least us Scots).
: 
:     Ye can always tell an Irishman from as Scot by the 'A' in the 'Mac.
: Irishmen dinna use it.
: 
: 
: Ed Campbell


	Ye can always count on a Cambell tae act like the sasunnachs
	that they are...

			Ryan Montieth Gill of Clan Grahame, 
	           Highlander, loyal to the House of the Stuarts
					of Scotland 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper)
Subject: Re: Dealing with the Insurance Scum
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:34:47 GMT

  Man!  Tony Wang has taken more than his care of shit over this!

  Granted, he didn't give us clear hard details in his first posting about 
where the $125k for his current lawsuit would go, but he did imply it
when he told us it would go to his lawyer and his bills, with about $25k left
over, he hoped.

  It could reasonable be surmised from his statement that he was talking about
his medical bills involved in the accident.

  As far as 'milking' the system.  Anytime someone receives a payment like that
these days they get accused of milking the system.  Perhaps people could make
the effort to find out some more of the facts about it before they start 
screaming and get ready to tear the guy a new asshole that sounds like a
deer whistle at high speeds...

-Matth
  
--
          Matthew J. Harper ! Progress Software Corp. ! {disclaimer.i}         
   God created heaven and earth to grow barley and hops. Now he homebrews !-)  

     Starve a lawyer!  Boycott Sam Adams and Jim Koch's BS legal tactics!
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From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: I'm gonna git me that bra!
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 16:51:18 GMT

Laszlo, the highest bidder so far sayeth:
>$61. so jody whats your boyfriend say about all this?

He's neither offended nor surprised, and thinks that the charity
thing is a good idea. Too bad he doesn't have net access, he's missing
a lot of fun. Are there any spousal pairs on the net?

Terry Cunningham, a kind Donator of Dollars wrote:
>If Jody would be so kind as to email her address when the bidding is done
>I would be grateful.

I can do better than that. I can post it to the world! (Just how many junk
mailing lists will *this* get me onto?). I will be accepting donations to the 
Ride for Sight (bikers' contributing to research for curing blindness). I will
submit the donation sometime after I send the bra out to the lucky winner of
the auction. I will post the list of donors (unless you tell me not to)
as well as any reply from the Ride for Sight people.

The highest bid I've seen is from Laz at $61. I'll continue watching.

Send donations to:

Jody Levine
63 Thirty-Sixth St.
Etobicoke, Ontario, Canada
     M8W 3L3

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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