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From: hem@col400.att.com (Hillel E. Markowitz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: ST:DSN schedule in Baltimore
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:11:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Federal Systems
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I checked with the Baltimore station showing DSN and their sheet
shows as follows

WNUV TV Channel 54 in Baltimore.

Emissary - Wed. 1/6/93  8 - 10 PM

The series will be shown every Wednesday starting 1/13/93 from
8-9 PM,  It will repeat on the following Sunday (conflicting wit
Channel 45's repeat of ST:TNG).  The first three episodes they
have listed are

1/13 403 Man Alone
1/18 404 Past Prologue
1/25 405 Babel

They don't have the rest on their Fax sheet.

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From: cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma)
Subject: Re: Troi is capable of wearing a uniform (SPOILERS)
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:46:59 GMT

fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:

>>>However, she is an OFFICER and has been refered to in many instances as such
>>>(see Disaster for proof).  Therefore, she is as military as the next OFFICER 
>>>and should have to wear a uniform.  If she is a civilian then she should NOT
>>>have free access to the bridge.  Other civilians don't.  She should be in 
>>>uniform while she is on duty.  

>Here in the 24th century, we have done away with such things as greed,
>poverty, racism, money, and military protocol.

>ITS JUST A TV SHOW!

Hmmm, people have died for less! :) :)

	(just a TV show, yeah right!)

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From: stailey@bugs.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey)
Subject: Re: Is Babylon 5 going to be a cable TV show.
Reply-To: stailey@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola LMPS Research, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 11:11:24 GMT

(SUBRAMANIAM) writes:

* Is Babylon 5 going to be only on cable or does it air on regular channels
* also.  Emails will be a appreciated.  Thanks in advance.


  It's a syndicated show, just like ST:TNG.

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From: athos@apple.com (Rick Eames)
Subject: The Battle Bridge
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:55:07 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current

Since my ST Tech Manual doesn't have a picture of the battle bridge, I am
wondering what episodes it appeared in so I can go buy them.  Any clues?

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From: msmallwo@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (M. Lee Smallwood)
Subject: Re: do we need rec.arts.startrek.dsn?
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 04:33:13 GMT

Also, you could delete .fandom since all fandom does is follow
the cast(s) of characters. It is redundant in your system.

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From: kpapai@rahul.net (Ken Papai)
Subject: Re: Wow! So many new SF shows!
Organization: a2i network
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:14:57 GMT

ynecelc@s1w3.sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan) writes:

>Hmm...there seems to be a whole lot of new shows
>for us this season. Looks like they're starting
>to figure out who's got money to spend.
>NBC: Deep Space Nine
>CBS: Space Rangers

Sorry, but NBC has Zero, nada, zilch, 0, nothing, null set, to do
with ST:Deep Space Nine.  This has been said over and over and over
on the net!  It just so happens that the station in your area happens
to be affiliated with NBC.  ST:TNG & DS9 are SYNDICATED TV shows
produced by Paramount.  Just think how  confused you would be if you
lived in my area: ch. 44 carries TNG & DS9.  Ch. 44 is _totally_
independent.  Also, ch. 11 carries both, ch. 11 is affiliated with ABC,
but (Obviously) doesn't preempt ABC primetime to show ST!

Time Trax is a new show out real soon.

Also, Babylon 5 is gonna be great.  The current issue of Cinefantastique
covers it in complete detail.  However, no one knows what the "Prime Time"
network is gonna be.  Lots of stations have signed up for PT, but I have
not heard of any confirms yet...

>There's one alien which appears in the commercial for SR that
>looks like a Cardasian [sic]. Anyone know whether the show is related
>to Star Trek or produced by Paramount?

NO

>Oh, one last thing:

>Is DSN running on NBC everywhere else?(It is in Montreal.)
>Since TNG is on ABC(in MTL), competition between the networks 
>will make both shows much more interesting.(IMHO)

NO.  Check the FAQ.  Any station, regardless of their affiliation or
independent status may carry ST:TNG & DS9 as long as they pay Paramount
for the right.  It has nothing to do with major networks (for the 1,000,000th
time).
 
-- 
Ken Papai <kpapai@rahul.net>
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From: trogers@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Hers one wores in CoC I
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:27:39 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: trogers@yktvmv.vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <1992Dec21.174638.29106@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ckt0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHARLES KEITH TESSLER) writes:
>Pecard and the new ass hole incharge duccuss the misssion in 10 foward hardly
>a sucure location. any one of a the people could have hure them not to mention
>what some hight tech bug could have picked up. They at least could have spoke
>in code words. But they just said everthing. Someone have to teach both of
>them a thing about espongae.
>-- 
>
>                                  Keith Tessler
>                                  Id: CKT0@LEHIGH.EDU
>                                  Tel # (215) 758-1364


Ah, do I need my STNG secret decoder ring to decipher the above?

Regards,
Tom Rogers
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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: DSN or DS9 ?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 02:37:56 GMT

In article <1317.580.uupcb@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us> john.ewin@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (John Ewin)  writes:
>References: <Bzq5Br.BFB@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
>
>eschlene@indiana.edu (Eric Schlene) writes:
>ES>If one goes by the AP style book, numbers ten and under are represented
>ES>by words. Therfore, DSN is proper form. But then again, styles change. .
>
>Just an FYI that Paramount themselves calls it "DS9", and they have hats
>for staff imprinted this way.

Rick Berman made up some "DS9" hats for a few (lucky) people,
BUT Paramount has been *very* explicit in referring to the show
as Deep Space Nine (DSN) in all the official show materials.

Based on a line in the pilot, it seems like an earlier idea
I had may just be correct...  The SHOW is "DSN", but the
*station* is "DS9".  Strange, but that's what it looks like.

Perhaps with Babylon 5 out soon, calling the show "Deep Space 9"
would be just a little too close for comfort...

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From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: Chain of Command & 2 part stories
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
Date: 28 Dec 1992 13:14 EST  

In article <SKLEPZI.19.0@SSB1.SAFF.UTAH.EDU>, SKLEPZI@SSB1.SAFF.UTAH.EDU (Steven Klepzig) writes...
>In spite of all the "problems", "inconsistencies", and "flaws" with Chain of 
>Command (remember, it's just TV - it's just pretend), is anyone besides me 
>grateful that they (Paramount, et al) decided to make this a two parter 
>instead of trimming and hacking and compressing it to fit one show?
> 
>It's kind of nice to have a story that doesn't neatly tie itself up in the 
>last 2.5 minutes, between the last commerical and ending credits.


Actually, *this* one might have been a better *3* parter... I think it 
wrapped up a little too quickly even as it was written. The exit scene 
between Jellico and Picard should have had a bit more including, perhaps, 
Picard finding some `thing' of Jellico's to hand him as he was leaving like 
Jellico did with Picard's book. (I would have loved it if Riker had made a 
face at Jellico behind his back too, but you can't have everything :-))


I was a little disappointed that Jellico and that Admiral weren't part of 
the Cardassian plot... it just meant that they were, in the Admiral's case, 
stupid and gullible and, in Jellico's case, arrogant and incompetent (though 
he *did* get the job done). Jellico's treatment of the Cardassian 
emmisaries seemed without real purpose ... I mean, what did it buy him ? 

-- Stephen

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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: picards french lines
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 31 Dec 92 16:03:50 EST

 -=> Trogers babbled to All and look what he said! <=-

 Tr> "You are six years old"
 Tr> "You cannot hurt me"
 Tr> mumble, mumble

Picard said "You are six years old"
            "Weak and helpless"
            "You cannot hurt me"
The mumble mumble is what he are trying to decipher, and the mumble
mumble happens to be a french child's song.


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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: data watch
Date: 28 Dec 92 17:25:57 -0600
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

> 
> Dr. Crusher is the only other Commander on the ship.  Data and Geordi
> are both Lt. Commanders and Deanna is only a Lt.  However, Dr. Crusher's
> rank is only high in a medical point of view.  When both Picard and
> Riker are gone, Data is next in line (he's third in command).  The
> change in colour denotes a change in responsibilities.  I believe Amber
> was like tech and engineering whereas Red is commanding or official.
> Something like that.


(sigh)
Right.  Ranks and positions one more time, as there is an error in
the above text, although it is nice of Jason to try.  

COMMANDING OFFICER:  Captain Jean-Luc Picard.   Four pips.  Red Uniform.
			Command Division.
EXECUTIVE OFFICER: Commander William Riker.  Three pips. Red Uniform.
			Command Division.
CHIEF MEDICAL OFFICER: Doctor-Commander Beverly Crusher.  Three pips.  Blue.
			Science Division.
OPERATIONS MANAGER/SCIENCE OFFICER/SECOND OFFICER: Lt. Cmdr. Data. 2.5 pips.
			Yellow. :) Operations Division.
SHIP'S COUNSELOR: Lieutenant Commander Deanna Troi  2.5 pips.  Blue.
			Science Division.
CHIEF ENGINEER: Lieutenant Commander Geordi LaForge.  2.5 pips.  Yellow.
			Operations Division.
SECURITY CHIEF: Lieutenant Worf.  2 pips.  Yellow.
			Operations Division.

The three divisions:
	Command - Red uniforms, the general all-purpose division for officers
			in the field who didn't do a high-intensive specialty
			course other than how to command.  
	Operations - Yellow uniforms, officers who contribute to the operation
			of the ship itself, such as the engineers and the
			security officers and the operations manager.
	Sciences - Blue uniforms, officers who use the ship's facilities
			 to conduct advanced researches, be they technical
			 or life sciences.  The medical division falls under
			 this branch as it is really a science.
The main difference between yellows and blues seems to be that the yellows
actually maintain and run the ship, the blues merely use the equipment.
Put it another way....
The yellows are programmers, the blues are users.
The reds program and use mainly the crew as opposed to the ship.  

Transfer between Operations and Command divisions seems to be much easier
than between Science and the other two divisions, as we have seen both
Worf and Geordi move from the Command division into the Operations division,
and this week we saw Data go back to the Command division.  Thus those
divisions are less set in concrete and a very capable officer can move
pretty easily between them, as opposed to Troi or Dr Crusher ever trying
to command the ship.  

However, I've just read the TV Guide articles about Deep Space Nine and
in there we see some photos that include a green division that could
throw this entire thing for a loop.

Steven.K.Manfred
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DSN or DS9 ?
Date: 26 Dec 92 04:49:29 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <JRBcwB1w164w@kryton.UUCP> albates@kryton.UUCP (al bates) writes:
<cboerm48@ursa.calvin.edu (Christopher Boerma) writes:
<
<> skeeter@skatter.usask.ca writes:
<> 
<> >From article <1992Dec21.174735.22583@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, by W.O. Khan <Ch
<> >> DS9 makes more sense to me.  
<> >> 
<> >> Mystery Science Theater 3000 is not abreviated MSTTK, it is MST3K.
<> 
<> Doesn't carry, if you use the line that numbers should appear as number, then
<> you'de get MST3000. But they're going for a short abbreviation and so
<> use MST3K (cause MSTTT looks stupid!) but DSN or DS9 look both fine so.
<> I personally like DSN better cause it's three letters just like TNG, TOS
<> or TAS.
<> 
<
<Right... using "skeeter"'s logic, it MUST be abbreviated with DSN,
<since the show is called Deep Space NINE... not "9".

Using "Rick Berman" logic, the co-creator of the show and designer of their
hat, it MUST be DS9, since that is what Rick placed on the hats.
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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: Chain Of Command, Part I = shortened
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:53:38 EST

 -=> Vidiot babbled to All and look what he said! <=-


 Vi> There was only one Paramount supplied DS9 promo.  If there was
 Vi> another, it was provided locally.

Yeah, probably so. The second DS9 promo was the same one from CoC, Pt I.
 
 Vi> Paramount doesn't leave any leeway in an hour.  The whole hour is
 Vi> timed to the second.  For second run episodes (those from previous
 Vi> seasons), the local station gets ALL of the ad time and there is an
 Vi> extra 30 seconds because the promo for the next week isn't aired.

 Vi> In the case of the two CoC episodes, when they air again, they will be
 Vi> 30 seconds short.

Oh well, I don't think it really matters does it?  That just means that
stations will get to include an extra 30 seconds in one of their commercial
breaks.  Of course, this does mean hell for us who record episodes and
keep out commercial breaks by timing them...  :-)


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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: tv guide
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 30 Dec 92 13:15:45 EST

I just saw an awesome commercial for either this week or next week's TV
Guide.  One or the other has a large article on DSN, and they showed
clips of either TNG or DSN.  They showed Captain Sisco and Captain
Picard together shaking hands.  Picard said some sort of compliment but
I forget what it was.  And then they showed a Miranda Class Starship
(That's like the Reliant, right?) firing phasers at a Borg cube!

The DSN station itself looks somewhat like Space Station Regula One,
only not long at all.  It's more wide with about for claw-like apendeges
(sp?).  It's black and it somewhat looks like the contraption around the
Enterprise from "Family".

I suppose all you guys will see the commercial soon but I guess I just
wanted to tell you.


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From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer)
Subject: Re: DS9: Avery Brooks has attitude.
Organization: QUAD Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:34:18 GMT

kuvamp@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
: This was on the AP Newsnet this morning, thought it might be of interest:
: 
: 
: AVERY BROOKS:  DON'T LOOK FOR HIM AT TREKKIE CONVENTIONS
: 
: 	Randor, pennsylvania------The commander of the latest Star trek series
: says you won't find him doing any Star Trek conventions.  Avery Brooks says he
: isn't into that.  Brooks plays commander Sisko in the upcoming TV series "Star
: Trek: Deep Space nine."  The syndicated series is a spinoff of "Star Trek: the
: next Generation". Brooks tells TV guide he finds it funny that people think
: that he, like another Trek tv captain William Shatner, may soon become a
: worldwide sex symbol.  He says his "children would find that rather amusing"
: 
: 
: 
: 
: _______________END OF QUOTED MATERIAL______________________________________
: 
: Gee, isn't it great that Paramount picks actors to whom this is just another
: job, and who have no idea what this role means to people?  I mean if he's
: not willing to put up with the fandom, he should keep his B-grade tv series ass
: at home and give the job to someone who can handle it.  Leave your Ego at the
: door, Avery, or this will be a SHORT job.
: 

Jeez - get a life. 
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From: jwells@netcom.com (Court Jester)
Subject: Re: Where was Ro in Chain of Command?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:14:11 GMT

dmarkfie@nyx.cs.du.edu (David Markfield) writes:

>This is all just rumor mind you.......

>anyway I had heard that there were some problems between Michele Forbes and
>the genreral behind-the-scenes types at TNG.  As this story goes, that was 
>why she was left as a child at the end of "Rascals".  And that basically
>she's been pretty much written off...though of course they have left the
>door open for her should things improve.

>Mind you all this is rumor and heresay and as such it may not be true
>(but its so much fun talking about) :)

TV Guide's Deep Space Nine feature article may have a bit to say about
that rumor: "Efforts to hire back the popular Michelle Forbes (Ensign
Ro) have thus far failed--the actress just isn't interested."

Aww, and I was hoping to see some more sparks between her and Riker... =\

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From: 2020211@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA (Sylvain Chamberland)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: le pont d'avignon: last word please!
Date: 3 Jan 93 04:11:51 GMT
Reply-To: 2020211@SAPHIR.ULAVAL.CA
Organization: CTI, Universite Laval


 
 
In article <1993Jan1.222048.4063@cs.wayne.edu>, atems@igor.physics.wayne.edu
 (Dale Atems) writes:
>In article <1993Jan1.214752.24488@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> tobis@skool.ssec.wisc.edu 
(Michael Tobis) writes:
>>As a child in English Montreal, I was definitely taught  
>>    Sur le pont d'Avignon   
>>    L'on y danse, l'on y danse   
>>with the Ls. They may have dropped the Ls as gramatically incorrect
>>in teaching the song to non-French speaking kids nowadays, but I
>>suspect that the Ls are the traditional form.
>
>I learned it with the L's too (in the U.S.).
>
>A possible reason for the L's is that the final e in danse is not
>silent (because this is verse) and the next word (on) begins with a
>vowel. While I don't know of any other case where a spurious consonant
>is introduced, remember that one pronounces the final t of "comment"
>in "Comment allez-vous?" but not in "Comment vas-tu?"
>
>Or maybe they were considered grammatically correct at one time?
 
Those like me who are sick of the thread and/or don't care about French, press
"N" now!
 
------
 
Well, as I said, I'm a French speaker - the French Canadian version - but I
can't remember the words so I can't say if there were "L'"s or not.
 
What I CAN say is that the "L'"s are in no way grammatically incorrect. It's
not similar to the "comment" example.
 
The "L'" particle is nowadays used in the written language and not in the
spoken one, in Canada. I think it's used in French-speaking countries in
Europe.
The purpose of the "l'" (note that the ' is part of the particle) is to smooth
the language. In French, between words, there are usually consonants
pronounced, either at the beginning of the 2nd word or the end of the first. In
"Comment" we don't pronounce the "t" but when we link words. In "comment vas-
tu" it's not pronounced, in "Comment allez-vous" it is.  (It's not needed in
the first case, because there is a consonant which starts the second word, and
it is needed in the second case, where "allez" begins by a vowel.)
 
The following example:  "N'e^tre plus rien, la` ou` l'on a re'gne'!" (from
Balzac) would be said "ou` on a re'gne'", without "l'" in Canada. 
The translation is "To be no one anymore, where one has reigned" I would guess.
Between "ou`" (where) and "on" (which means "one" here) there are no
consonants. So we add the "l'"...
 
So you are right Dale, except for the "comment" example...
 
NOW I hope the matter is SETTLED so that we can go on with real r.a.s.c.
material instead of discussing French grammar!
 
>I wish there was a French language newsgroup to redirect this thread
>to, but I can't find one in my .newsrc.  Sorry.
 
I set the follow-up to can.francais, soc.culture.french and
soc.culture.canada... 
 
>Dale Atems
>Wayne State University, Detroit, MI
>Department of Physics and Astronomy
>atems@igor.physics.wayne.edu
 
Sylvain Chamberland
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