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Subject: amls and directories
From: cvalj001@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:33:59 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
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  I'm doing a GIS of wetlands with several quads.  Each quad is done and saved
separately.  My question is, is there a a central location to put the amls so I
don't have to copy them into each quad's directory?  &amlpath perhaps?

Thanks in advance!!!

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From:         "JAMES I. EBERT" <EBERT@UNMB.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Spatiotemporal Database Bibliography

Hey, Scott, you're absolutely right about that.
-- Jim Ebert
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:11:33 EST
From:         routson@SWDEV.SI.COM
Subject:      SWEDISH ARMY MAPS

I NEED INFORMATION ON THE CONVERSION BETWEEN THE SWEDISH ARMY GRID SYSTEM
AND GEOGRAPHIC OR UTM MAP SYSTEMS. THE DEFENSE MAPPING AGENCY MANUAL
DMA TM 8358.1 DOES NOT DISCUSS THIS. CAN ANYONE TELL ME THE DETAILS OF
THIS CONVERSION...ie: PROJECTION, ELLIPSOID, UNITS, ORIGIN, FALSE
COORDINATES OF ORIGIN, SCALE FACTOR, ETC.

THANKS


GSR
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:46:42 GMT
From:         "Dr A.D. Stevens" <ens@LEICESTER.AC.UK>
Subject:      wrong mail address

I received a message from you on the 21st which I'm sure was for
someone else. I spent some time in Rochester a few years back, but
have never been to Buffulo, other than to see CSN in '82 and fly
over the falls last year.
Regards,
Andrew Stevens,
University of Leicester
England.
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From:         Bob <HOLLIDAY@WVGEOG.WVNET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Spatiotemporal Bibliography

In reply to David Mark:

        It may interest you to know that the original message from Richard
Snodgrass was accidently deleted from my account.  Further more, my request for
the database was posted before Mr. Snodgrass posted the ftp site announcement.

        Ease up david!  I realize that there has been a lot of activity over the
network concerning the database, however, the initial listing was posted to this
network.  If you do not wish to read these postings, then delete them from your
directory, or send a signoff command to the listserv.

Bob
From: boss@geovax.ed.ac.uk (Bruce Gittings)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: Newbies and the net
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:57:45 GMT
Organization: University of Edinburgh, Geography Department.

In article <9301251240.AA08818@dg11svarmd>, tbsamsel@DG11SVARMD.ER.USGS.GOV (Theodore B. Samsel) writes:
> 
>   If the NET is opened up more as may well be the case, I would think
> that more of "the chaff" will be forthcoming. I delete a lot anyway.
> (This is a waste of bandwidth to some; so be it.)
>
> Ted Samsel.......TBSAMSEL@QVARSA.ER.USGS.GOV..(use this!)

I think we need to gently guide the "newbies" towards the "netiquette"
texts that are widely available.  The golden rules for any new members
who may be reading this are:

(1)  Don't post anything until you have read every message on the news
     group for at least two weeks,

(2)  Don't post anything until you have read the FAQ (posted monthly)
     FAQ stands for "Frequently Asked Questions" and is in effect the
     newsgroup handbook.

Follow these and you won't look like a twit to the thousands of people
who read your messages.   GIS-L readers are generally fairly forgiving,
but there are some newsgroups I read where people have been reduced to
jelly beans by some of the old hands for their lack of netiquette.


Regards,

Bruce.
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:50:32 CST
From:         Alan Rea <gwdokokl!ahrea@MAILHOST.ECN.UOKNOR.EDU>
Subject: Re: where to find USGS elevation data

>This may be a dumb question, but does anyone know where I can get
>high-resolution elevation data (latitude, longitude, elevation)?
>I've written my own program to view terrains, and I'd like to use data
>representing real places (US is particular).
>
>Is this data in the public domain?  Or do you have to pay for it?
>Is there an ftp site?
>
>- Nels Olsen
>--
>calyx.corp@mixcom.com

The data is public domain, so if you can find someone willing to give
it to you, you're in business.  If not, you can always call USGS at
1-800-USA-MAPS and request an index map and documentation of the DEM
formats.  If you only buy one DEM, it costs something like $40, but if
you buy a bunch, the cost for each additional one goes down to $7.

The last I knew, they only come on 9-track tape :-(


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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:07:02 -0500
From:         lynnc@EDCSERV.EDC.URI.EDU
Subject:      DAMs and GIS

Has anyone utilized GIS t o assist in managing dams - i.e. tracking their
condition, flow, downstream populations, etc.?  I would be interested
in any information on this, and in particular, any applications that have
been done with dams coverages.

Thank you
Lynn Carlson        lynnc@edcserv.edc.uri.edu
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:50:19 GMT
From:         rwelebny@ATTMAIL.COM
Subject:      Latin Publication

While deleting the bulk of over two hundred GIS-L messages (over half a meg)
that had accumulated during a week long hiatus, I inadvertently deleted one of
the messages I wanted to keep.

Would someone be so kind as to advise me on how to retrieve the message
regarding the Latin American GIS publication that was on the net within the
past week?

As this is of no interest to anyone else, please be so kind as to address your
response to me at my direct E-Mail address, which follows.

Thank you.

R.J. Welebny

internet!rwelebny@attmail.com
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From: srobeson@nickel.ucs.indiana.edu (scott robeson)
Subject: Re:      Re: climate
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:18:44 GMT

In article <01GU117LD10U0017JC@EKU.BITNET> GEOWASSE@EKU.BITNET writes:
>>you exactly plan to deal with elevational effects on temperature... I assume
>>that some algorithim exists for determining rate of change of temperature
>>based on average slope rise, or somesuch, but I am not quite clear on that.
>
>        The average environmental lapse rate is 6.5oC / 1000m
>
>        Adiabatic rates may also prove useful, but accurate data for a
>        given air mass is more difficult to acquire.

As Arco said, 6.5 oC/km is the average _environmental_ lapse rate, 
which includes air that is both saturated and unsaturated (with 
respect to water vapor).  The environmental lapse rate describes the 
actual decrease in temperature that is observed.  When air is _forced_ 
to rise (or sink), it is heated (or cooled) at either the dry 
adiabatic lapse rate (DALR, 9.8 oC/km) or the wet adiabatic lapse rate 
(WALR, variable depending on water content), depending on whether it 
is saturated or not.  When bringing air down to some common level, you 
could assume that the env lapse rate is adiabatic, but this is a major
assumption.  An even bigger assumption needs to be made when you take the
temperatures back up to an elevation (wet, dry, or something else). 
One can imagine that a particular area has an inversion (temperature
increase with height) and the interpolation algorithm says that the
air cools at the DALR.  This kind of procedure may be better than not 
doing anything to the data before interpolating, but that needs to be 
shown.

One method that Cort Willmott and I have used to get around this problem 
is to use a high-resolution climatology to guide the interpolation (we 
have called this Climatologically Aided Interpolation or CAI).  We 
subtract a high-res temperature field from the observations and
interpolate the anomalies to a grid.  At the grid, we then add the
climatology back onto the interpolated anomalies to get raw air
temperature.  Although this procedure requires the existence of a
reliable high-res climatology, we have shown this to be very much 
superior to simply interpolating raw air temperatures.  An application 
of this appears in a forthcoming volume of the Publications in 
Climatology monograph series entitled "Spatial Interpolation, Network 
Bias, and Terrestrial Air Temperature Variability."  It should be out 
in the next few months.  We're also working on a journal article on 
the same topic.

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Scott Robeson                             srobeson@indiana.edu
Department of Geography, 120 Student Building	                    
Indiana University, Bloomington, IN 47405  Phone: 812-855-7722
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From: dmark@acsu.buffalo.edu (David Mark)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: Spatiotemporal Bibliography
Date: 24 Jan 93 03:12:03 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <01GTTK1UNV2Q9X3K82@WVNVMS.WVNET.EDU> HOLLIDAY@WVGEOG.WVNET.EDU (Bob) writes:
>Could I please get a copy of the Spatiotemporal Bibliography?  Thanks in
>advanve.

Not to pick on Bob, but this is getting ridiculous!!!!!  It is NEVER good
net etiquette to post requests such as these to the list!!  The original
January 14 posting from Richard Snodgrass had his email address in the
header, 

>From: rts@CS.ARIZONA.EDU (Rick Snodgrass)
>Subject: Spatiotemporal database bibliography
>Date: 14 Jan 93 20:57:27 GMT

and also in the footer or signature file of Richard's posting:

>Richard Snodgrass               Internet: rts@cs.arizona.edu
>Associate Professor
>Department of Computer Science
>University of Arizona           AT&T: (602) 621-6370
>Tucson, AZ 85721                FAX:  (602) 621-4246

And further more, his posting contain clear and explicit instructions
on how to get the bibliography yourself, if you have ftp access:

>The postscript version is available via anonymous ftp from cs.arizona.edu
>in the bib directory, in the file spacetime.ps. The entries
>themselves, in a format suitable for use with the latex formatting
>language, with most including abstracts, may be found in the file
>spacetime.bib.
>If ftp is not available, and you would like a copy, I would be happy
>to email you the postscript or .bib version.

With such clear instructions, and clear addresses of the person so
kindly offering the bibliography, it is beyond me why ANYONE would
post the request for it to the whole list, never mine why so many people
would.  Please, PLEASE don't post things to the list unless you REALLY
want thousands of readers to see them, or unless you have no alternative
because of a lost email address or something like that!

David Mark
dmark@sun.acsu.buffalo.edu
From: jhr@KIEV.FIS.GDWB.OZ.AU (Julien Harrison-Rogers)
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Subject: Re: WH0 reads the Spatiotemporal Bibliography?
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:08:47 GMT
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> Subject:      WHo reads the Spatiotemporal Bibliography?

> At this rate, demand for the S.T.B. will outstrip that for newspapers
> carrying revelations of Prince Charles' love letters and tapes!
>
> I hope I am not being over-cynical, but I would love to know just what

maybe you are

> proportion of those dozens of people who have requested the bibliography
> have any intention ever to read it, use it, build on it? And, also, how
> many of those who have received copies have any intention of offering any
> sort of feedback to Richard Snodgrass et al? Have you thought of maybe

have you asked him personally about this first ?

> letting the compilers know what your specific area of interest is? Or why
> you feel the Bibliography might aid you in your work? Or, even, how you
> can help make the next edition of the Bibliography even better and more
> comprehensive than the last? To paraphrase a well-known US president,
> "ask not what the Spatiotemporal Bibliography can do for you; but rather
> what you can do for it"!

I get your gist, but I still hope this all is in a 'fun' tone, but the authors
offered it; we are greatful to read it; and if we feel inclined we will give
feedback to the authors we will with a thanks attached as well. That's how
the world  goes around.

I guess its because of your thankless work mentioned below that makes you
slightly cynical? I really wouldn't get too worked up too much if more than a
dozen people publicly request it. That's what a list such as gis-l is for.
(As you well know  Darius as I am one that appreciates your contributions as
well as others.. :)  )

> I have been working on another "niche" GIS bibliography project (and NO,
> I am NOT going to send out preview copies to all and sundry, so don't even
> ask!!!!), so I appreciate from hard-earned experience just what a boost to
> ones day it is when someone out there sends me an email detailing a new
> reference or two that I had not come across yet. It is even nicer if, as
> a few kind souls do, the authors of relevant publications send me a hard
> copy to assist me in compiling my bibliography entry.
>
> Has ANYBODY, out of all those who have asked for copies of the Spatiotemp.
> Bibiography, done ANYTHING to repay Richard, Michael and co for their effort?
> I for one would like publicly to thank Richard and colleagues, not only for
> their work in making the bibliography available to us, but also for their
> patience and forbearance in the face of the unseemly rush for copies. I
> bet they are beginning to wish that they never made the offer!
>
> Until another place and another time....  :-)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Darius Bartlett

Cheers


Julien
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:40:31 EST
From:         Scott Madry <madry@FARU.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Spatiotemporal Database Bibliography

I, for one, am really tired of requests for copies of WHATEVER being posted
to the net!! I would really appreciate it if netters would learn how to use
the facilities or go away!

Scott Madry
Rutgers
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From:         Bob <HOLLIDAY@WVGEOG.WVNET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: amls and directories

Youre
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From:         P05193@PRIME-A.PLYMOUTH.AC.UK
Subject:      spatiotemporal database bibliography

Please send me a copy of the Spatiotemporal Database Bibliography. Many thanks
in anticipation of your help.

Wieslaw

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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:26:09 -0500
From:         hoffmann@URZDFN.KARTOGRAPHIE.TU-DRESDEN.DBP.DE
Subject:      RE: Terminology

I can agree with these comments... We have to be careful everytime when
using or introducing old/new GIS terms. Also, GIS terminology is changing
permanently based on new research and methodological developments.
---
Some days (weeks) ago I mentioned an American firm (Data West Research
Agency) which has advertised

   A Practitioner's Guide to GIS Terminology
   (A glossary of GIS terms)

as a 460+ pp. reference book containing over 5500 definitions
used by GIS user community. Unfortunately, only a POB address
in FederalWay, WA  was given. My question is:
- does anybody know of this 1993 edition ?
- do exist there any other earlier editions of that guide?
- can somebody comment here on GIS-L the content, standard references etc.
  of this terminology book?

At least, USGS has provided me with the very new "Manual of Federal
Geographic Data Products" (January 1993)... its a very useful info
source for GIShoppers...! Thanks to colleagues at USGS-NC Reston !

FH-TUD
From: gbenwell@COMMERCE.OTAGO.AC.NZ
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Subject: Re: land suitability
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:11:16 GMT
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Dear Luigia
We has a joint land stability program with the NZ Institute of Geological and
 Nuclear
Sciences developing a land suitability index (scale complex but 0 = land
 uneffected by
any hazard, 5= get out now type warning!!).  Parts of NZ are rather unstable.

I suggest you contact Colin Aldridge here at the University - his address is
CALDRIDGE@commerce.otago.ac.nz

We are also developing the project on Arc/Info (PC).  If you cannot get through
 to him
get back to me.  (I will forward this message to him)


George
>
>I'm working about land suitability of some area of South Italy. I would
>know someone that has already work about this problem. I'm using Arc/Info
>to solve the problem of implementation of the G.I.S.
>                              Thank to everybody
>                                      Luigia


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From:         HAOQ@SYSA.C-ENGR1.SIU.EDU
Subject:      2nd Conf. on Integrating GIS and Environmental Modeling

Hi, Netters:

Can anybody send me a copy of the Call for Papers for the 2nd Conference
on Intergating GIS Environmental Modeling?

Thanx!

Qing-Wang Hao  (haoq@sysa.c-engr1.siu.edu)
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From: mccauley@ecn.purdue.edu (Darrell McCauley)
Subject: Re: where is GEO-EAS?
Organization: Ag Engineering Dept, Purdue University 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:20:24 GMT

In article <00966EED.B2594DE0.18575@gpsrv1.gpsr.colostate.edu>, wylie@GPSRV1.GPSR.COLOSTATE.EDU (Bruce K. Wylie (303) 490 8336) writes:
|> I currently haave a copy of the EPA public domain geostatistical
|> software (version 1.2.1). I am a little frustrated with its
|> limitation for kriging to a 100 by 100 grid and no more than

do you have source code with it? If so, that would be a good starting point.

|> 1,000 data points. Is there a new version out that may handel
|> larger grids?

You may try the authors...
My contact is:  Evan J. England 
                USEPA EMSL-LV, EAD
                P.O. Box 93478
                Las Vegas, NV 89193-3478

I don't have a phone number, but I suppose that you could get it from
Directory Assistance.  In the past, the arrangement was to send him
some 5.25" diskettes and he would send them back with Geo-EAS on them. I
don't know if this is still the policy. Check with him.

If anyone contacts him, you may ask if he minds if the software
(binaries AND source code) is made available via anonymous ftp. 
If he doesn't, and if the package hasn't grown substantially since 
I received my copy (a few years ago), I wouldn't mind putting this 
up for anonymous ftp on a machine at Purdue. It would save the hassle for 
many people as well as get some more exposure for England and others' 
work.  I understand it to be a fairly decent package, but I don't
work with PC's (or FORTRAN, for that matter), so I didn't play with
it much.

Hopefully within the next few months we'll have all of this 
functionality (semivariogram fitting, kriging, etc) within GRASS. Stay tuned...
-- 
James Darrell McCauley                Dept of Ag Engineering, Purdue Univ
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From: ij27@sol.acs.unt.edu (Gaddamanugu Vishwa Prasad)
Subject: Info. requested on XGRASS
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 22:11:59 GMT


Dear Grass Netters:
I request information regarding the release of XGRASS.
If it is going to be released shortly I would also like to receive some
information regarding it's installation.

Thanks in advance

With regards
Vishwa P. Gaddamanugu
ij27@sol.acs.unt.edu

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From:         hoffmann@URZDFN.KARTOGRAPHIE.TU-DRESDEN.DBP.DE
Subject:      GRASS @ moon...

Try it with ftp @ 129.229.20.254, it's the "moon" of CERL where GRASS
can be looked for... but, @moon.cecer.army.mil should work too..
Good luck with ftp'ing!
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