HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eastmer@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Re: YYYEEEEESSSSSSS!!!
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:18:56 GMT
 <24007@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> <1992Nov15.131133.13260@genie.slhs.udel.edu>
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Nov15.131133.13260@genie.slhs.udel.edu>, starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr) writes:
> In article <24007@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> tucker@shiva.UUCP (George Tucker) writes:
> }A toll bridge will benefit the owner if the economic justification for
> }it is sound.  Not all facilities can be financed this way, of course,
> }but user fees are certainly an improvement on general taxation.
> 
> What "infrastructure" can't be financed by tolls?  Roads and bridges can.
> 
So the investers would need an monitary insentive to build these bridges 
and roads.  Unless you have some better idea this means toll booths, and 
assuming that no one person has the resourse or will to biuld all the 
roads in an area this means many different toll booths.  Great we can just 
put up toll booths instead of stop signs.  And in staed of in taking 5 
min. to get to the store it will take half an hour after you stop to pay 
all the tolls.  How about residential streets, are you going to put one of 
your great private sector toll booths at the end of every driveway before 
you get on one of your private sector roads.  At what point would it be 
O.K. with you for a community to gather money throughout the population to 
finance something that is beneficial to everyone?(i.e. taxes)

Also what keeps one person or group of people from buying all the roads 
into or out of a certain area and charging just under the price or air 
fare for transportation?  True this would colapse quickly as people get 
angry but there are alot of people who would love to make a quick buck and 
get out and screw everyone else.

You aren't going to hear me talk about "Good Government"(about on a par 
with the boogy man) but there is a need for some established system of 
order.  In my own little Utopian fantasy there are precious few laws and 
microscopic goverment, but we live in a grossly imperfect world and some 
things just don't work.

I believe the sole purpose of government is to protect and expand the 
freedom of the individual.  I'll never have this government, but I am 
going to keep trying to get it.

Eric 

Never Never Land is not real, but is sure looks good on paper.
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.sex
Subject: Aw, fuck it. (was: HEY!!!! COLO AMENDMENT 2 PASSED!! HELLO?)
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:42:03 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <4f2O1tm00awPI1il5S@andrew.cmu.edu> Thomas Omar Smith <ts2a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.alt.sex: 17-Nov-92 Re: HEY!!!! COLO AMENDMENT ..
>Christopher Nachand@CS.C (2685)
>> Those of us hard at work with gay rights groups like the campus organization
>> "Straight But Not Narrow" thank you for all your support.

You mean the FCBGLA, right?
>
>> Christopher D. Nachand                "A man doesn't automatically get my 
>> Computer Science Department            respect.  He has to get down in the  
>> Colorado State University              dirt and beg for it."
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Judas!
>
>The single best way to get people to galvanize is to threaten them. 

Yeah, thanks, I 'preciate it.

>Give Coloradoans(sp?) 

Close enough.  Either that or Coloradans.

Y'know, I was going to flame you all for bitching out my state, but since
it won't do any good...

Just remember, in every conflict there are innocents which cannot be 
separated from your antagonists.  The more harmful you make your measures,
the worse those innocents will get hurt, too.

Big Al.  Who really shouldn't have had to learn that...
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: rich@pencil.cs.missouri.edu (Rich Winkel)
Subject: Re: Fretilin leader captured
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:53:13 GMT

In <1992Nov21.124112.13326@phillip.edu.au> x91007@phillip.edu.au writes:

>Does anybody have any information on what's happening in Indonesia? 
>The leader of Fretilin was captured eariler this morning.I don't know of any
>groups that concentrate on Indonesian politics. If you can help please e-mail
>me.

There are a number of articles on this on misc.activism.progressive.

Rich
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: thomax@uropax.contrib.de (Thomas Kaulmann)
Subject: looking for german CL and APC hierarchy feed
Organization: Contributed Software GbR
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 12:44:43 GMT

hello,

we are looking for a german (unix) site wich is able to feed us the
ComLink and the APC hierarchy. the best case is an supply via internet-nntp.
if you know conntact persons here in germany (or europe), please
let us know!!!!


thomax
-- 
Contributed Software, Thomas Kaulmann, Graefestr. 42, 1000 Berlin 61
G N U  &  N E T W O R K S  &  U N I X  Tel. : +49 30 694 69 07
Mail: thomax@contrib.de                Modem: +49 30 694 (6182|6749|6809)
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From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.elections,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,talk.rumors
Subject: Re: Anita Hill to Head EEOC
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:27:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <1eebl5INNeol@SUNED.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU> jovanovic-nick@cs.yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:

B
>BTW, I doubt that only a _handful_ of people realize that *denigrate*
>comes from the same Latin root, *niger*, as have *Negro* and *Nigeria*. 
>
>-Nick

BTW, Nick, are you aware that your name comes from the old name for 
SATAN!  You know, old Nick!  Give it a break and take it to rec.word.origins.

Ted

-- 
"We will bury you! We will bury you! We will bury you!"
      - some ex-Soviet leader            
                   krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:09:02 GMT
Subject: Re: A proposal for reproductive freedom for BOTH sexes
Organization: HP Western Response Center
From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.elections,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,talk.rumors
Subject: Re: Anita Hill to Head EEOC
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:10:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <1992Nov12.072718.22982@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:

>No, only the Republifascists think we *need* a government telling us
>what values our families should have.

No, we Republifascists have normal families, we like our definition just 
fine, thank you.  You liberoanarchists have your own thing, you want to 
call it a family and thereby denegrade the meaning of our families.

Ted



-- 
            

krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.conspiracy,alt.security,soc.culture.usa,talk.politics.misc
From: lnosek@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Luke Nosek)
Subject: Re: Snapple and anti-abortionism
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:39:03 GMT

>or other, and that they advertise heavily on Rush Limbaugh. But that doesn't 
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^**************

I say boycott anybody that advertises on Rush Limbaugh.

					Luke Nosek
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Fretilin leader captured
From: x91007@phillip.edu.au
Date: 21 Nov 92 12:41:12 EST
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

Does anybody have any information on what's happening in Indonesia? 
The leader of Fretilin was captured eariler this morning.I don't know of any
groups that concentrate on Indonesian politics. If you can help please e-mail
me.

Many thanks,
		Patrick

x91007@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs
From: jjs23@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: HEY!!!! COLO AMENDMENT 2 PASSED!! HELLO?
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:15:03 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <1992Nov10.025659.11631@vexcel.com>, dean@vexcel.com (Dean Alaska) writes:
> This is a difficult problem.  Most of the areas that would be affected by a
> boycott are areas that voted strongly against it.  On the other hand, those
> who voted for it in these areas might still get the message.  Aspen is
> having a Gay Skiers Weekend soon and it seems like it would be bad to
> boycott this event because of 2.
> -- 
> 
> 		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
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From: jovanovic-nick@cs.yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.elections,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,talk.rumors
Subject: Re: Anita Hill to Head EEOC
Date: 16 Nov 1992 17:24:14 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: zoo-gw.cs.yale.edu

In article <1992Nov12.171025.2502@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.072718.22982@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
>
>>No, only the Republifascists think we *need* a government telling us
>>what values our families should have.
>
>No, we Republifascists have normal families, we like our definition just 
>fine, thank you.  You liberoanarchists have your own thing, you want to 
>call it a family and thereby denegrade the meaning of our families.
                              ^^^^^^^^^

It is ironic that you can't use the word you meant, namely denigrate,
which means *to blacken*.  You show your ignorance and racism at the
same time this way!

-Nick


Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: lang@igc.apc.org (Andrew Lang)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: looking for german CL and APC hiera
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:26:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Nov22.124443.19967@uropax.co:-87332805:cdp:1296500445:000:155
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!lang    Nov 22 12:26:00 1992


Thomas, try <sysop@comlink.apc.org>.  If that doesn't work, get
back to me and I'll suggest a few other addresses.

Best luck,

Andy Lang
lang@igc.apc.org
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From: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.elections,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,talk.rumors
Subject: Re: Anita Hill to Head EEOC
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:44:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In <1e972eINN1da@SUNED.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU> jovanovic-nick@cs.yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:

|>In article <1992Nov12.171025.2502@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
|>>No, we Republifascists have normal families, we like our definition just 
|>>fine, thank you.  You liberoanarchists have your own thing, you want to 
|>>call it a family and thereby denegrade the meaning of our families.
|>                              ^^^^^^^^^

|>It is ironic that you can't use the word you meant, namely denigrate,
|>which means *to blacken*.  You show your ignorance and racism at the
|>same time this way!

Come on now Nick.  
I can't believe that you could knowingly put out such a weak comeback
and still walk around with your head held high.

First off spelling flames are at best cheap shots.  If that was the
best you could do, then you should have stayed out.

And the crack about racist iundicates to me that you are in danger of
losing all rationality.  I really doubt that more than a handfull of
people even know that one of the meanings of denigrate is "to
blacken", I didn't, I had to look it up to be sure.
Most people who use denigrate mean "to cast aspersions upon".

Unless you can find some better evidence for your charges than what you
have presented, you owe Ted an apology.

-- 
Mob rule doesn't become any prettier, just because the mob start to call itself
a government.
It ain't charity if you are using someone else's money.
Mark.Wilson@AtlantaGA.NCR.com
From: aforum@moose.uvm.edu (Autonome Forum)
Subject: AF/ATS: workers riot in Osaka, Japan
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 21:32:28 GMT

subject: Workers Riot in Osaka Japan
posted by: AF/ATS
--

Two Days of Rioting in Kamagasaki, Osaka

     Kamagasaki is a neighborhood in Osaka, Japan, home to some
30,000 workers, mainly day-laborers, including many homeless
workers. On October 1, the local governemnt in the neighborhood
decided to stop paying out social security payments to needy
workers. 
     The approximately 80 workers who were turned out of the
social security office on October 1 and told they were not going
to receive any payments responded by smashing in the office's
windows. In the early afternoon, some 1500 police arrived in the
neighborhood to prevent the discontent from spreading. But by
early evening, at least 1000 workers had gathered, alongside many
youths and "normal citizens". Burning barricades were erected in
the streets. Throughout the evening, the rioting spread as trains
and busses were set on fire and a large supermarket was looted.
     The next day, the local government stood by its decision and
decided to once again refuse to make payments to the day-
laborers. The social security building closed its doors at
9:30am. Out came the stones and molotov cocktails once again, as
workers and police squared off in the streets for a second day.
     By late afternoon, the local government gave in and agreed
to renew its payments to the day-laborers.

--
                     Autonome Forum: aforum@moose.uvm.edu
                          "Solidarity is a Weapon!"
--
From: jovanovic-nick@cs.yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.elections,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,talk.rumors
Subject: Re: Anita Hill to Head EEOC
Date: 18 Nov 1992 16:13:09 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: zoo-gw.cs.yale.edu

In article <10570@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
>In <1e972eINN1da@SUNED.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU> jovanovic-nick@cs.yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:
>
>|>In article <1992Nov12.171025.2502@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
>|>>No, we Republifascists have normal families, we like our definition just 
>|>>fine, thank you.  You liberoanarchists have your own thing, you want to 
>|>>call it a family and thereby denegrade the meaning of our families.
>|>                              ^^^^^^^^^
>
>|>It is ironic that you can't use the word you meant, namely denigrate,
>|>which means *to blacken*.  You show your ignorance and racism at the
>|>same time this way!
>
>Come on now Nick.  
>I can't believe that you could knowingly put out such a weak comeback
>and still walk around with your head held high.
>
>First off spelling flames are at best cheap shots.  If that was the
>best you could do, then you should have stayed out.
>
>And the crack about racist iundicates to me that you are in danger of
>losing all rationality.  I really doubt that more than a handfull of
>people even know that one of the meanings of denigrate is "to
>blacken", I didn't, I had to look it up to be sure.
>Most people who use denigrate mean "to cast aspersions upon".
>
>Unless you can find some better evidence for your charges than what you
>have presented, you owe Ted an apology.
>

I apologize for my remarks.

I do not apologize for criticizing someone who says to others, "you want to
call it a family."  My Webster's New World Dictionary has 7 definitions for
*family*, 2 of which have a combined total of 7 sudefinitions.  My other,
smaller dictionary has 6 definitions for *family*.  Amazingly, they both
agree that one meaning is *all the people living in the same house*, or
*all those who live in one house*.  Thus, the word has a very inclusive
meaning and I resent someone attempting to Republicanize it. 

BTW, I doubt that only a _handful_ of people realize that *denigrate*
comes from the same Latin root, *niger*, as have *Negro* and *Nigeria*. 

-Nick

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From: v140pxgt@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Daniel B Case)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Judge's Dirty Little Secret
Keywords: Jury Nullification
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:21:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <By7232.L69@mail.boi.hp.com>, politics@boi.hp.com writes...

[article deleted to save bandwidth]
[check it out yourself if you're interested]

Fine, but I have one point I want clarification on. You seem to think that 
this power will be exercised only in a beneficial fashion-much as it was, say,
in pre-Roe abortion prosecutions, where in one Nebraska case, the jury refused
to convict the woman despite her basically being caught red-handed because they\
all knew someone she'd helped out.

But it has disturbing implications. What about Southern juries that refused to
convict Klansmen caught in the act, or anyone harassing blacks? They were 
clearly using jury nullification, yet the net result was a denial of justice.
Or, to take a more recent example, the Rodney King jury? And on the other side
of the racial coin, the all-black jury in New York that acquitted the black
man who killed four cops and wounded six more? Jurors are all too human, you
know.

And even if they are, this opens the door wide for intimidation. Here in New
York, the prosecution is required to make the names of the jurors known to 
the defense. Gotti was tried several times (admittedly, some of them with 
prosecution that left something to be desired) before he was finally convicted.
Coincidence?

You have a good point, and I am not trying to flame you. However, there is a
dark side to this, and maybe sometimes it's for society's benefit.

						Daniel Case
						V140pxgt@ubcms.cc.buffalo.edu

	
		"America is one of the few places where failure to
		promote oneself is widely regarded as being arrogant."

						-Garry Trudeau.
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood)
Subject: Re: Environmentalism is not Anti-Individualism
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:37:14 GMT

In article <2156@sousa.ltn.dec.com> gentile@bcse.enet.dec.com (My name is Sam Gentile) writes:
>
>Ok, proof about the wb of life, all life being connected and 
>interrerelated. As modern physicists have demonstrated, this understanding
>is more than a mystical dream; it is an actual physical fact. Via the
>all-pervading web of what scientists call "superstrings", at a sub-microscopic
>level the Statue of Liberty is literally connected to the butterflies in
>Nebraska and everything else. Infinitesimally delicate subatomic linkages
>connect everything to everything else - all energy and matter. By inevitable
>extension, everything is part of the same continous web of energy and matter.

That's nothing new.  We've known since Newton that everything in the
universe is connected by gravity.  So what?

If everything in the universe is part of me, then I have the obvious right
to do as I please with it.

A logical system that can prove anything and everything -- proves nothing,
because it can't tell things that are proven (and true) from things that
are proven (and false).

I know I'm missing something.  A young Pagan said to me once, "But don't you
believe we come from the earth?"  I didn't know what to say, because I
didn't know what I was arguing against.

Maybe it's the magical Law of Contagion.  (The best exposition I know of
this is the "Lord Darcy" stories by Randall Garrett.)
-- 
Anton Sherwood                                          dasher@well.sf.ca.us
    *\\*    Opinions mine, but available for lease at easy terms    *\\*
+1 415 267 0685                 1800 Market St #207, San Francisco 94102 USA
From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:34 PST
Subject: URGENT ACTION for Somalia
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1296500442:000:1863
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!dmorse    Nov 19 18:34:00 1992


From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse>
Subject: URGENT ACTION for Somalia

/* Written  6:25 pm  Nov 19, 1992 by AFRICA-L@VTVM2.apc.org in igc:bitl.africa */
/* ---------- "URGENT ACTION for Somalia" ---------- */
Reply-To: "FORUM PAN-AFRICA (Peer Distribution List)"              <AFRICA-L@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
From: Dorothy Morse <dmorse>
Subject:      URGENT ACTION for Somalia

MacNeil/Lehrer said tonight the White House will discuss serious action for
Somalia tomorrow.

Please call the White House Comment Line--202-456-1111, between 9am
and 5pm Eastern time, tomorrow.

Or fax any time (starting tonight) at 202-456-2461.

Please urge massive increases in food aid and medical supplies.  Remember,
even Mohamed Sahnoun said things were getting better since the aid increased,
despite the looting.  And, he said the amount now being delivered is
30,000 tons a month.  60,000 tons a month are needed, so there is plenty
of room for improvement there.

The main topic of discussion will be military intervention.  I plan to urge
increased UN troops, deployed swiftly.  I think that insofar as outside
military force can cause some problems, UN troops are less provocative than
US marines.

I have to say that the Somalis in the US to whom I have talked==the
Somalia Relief Association in Houston, and Save Somalia in Atlanta,
strongly support military intervention.

On the M/L News Hour, the former US Ambassador to Somalia, Crigler,
said "the American people have shown that they favor helping Somalia."
It's important that we continue to show this support.

Hope everybody will take the time to make the quick phone call or
send a one-paragraph fax.

Thanks so much.  Events seem to have shown that the online community
has made a big difference for Somalia--I hope we can act in great
numbers tomorrow and perhaps get some really helpful action out of the
White House.

Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.politics.elections,alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc,talk.rumors
Subject: Re: Anita Hill to Head EEOC
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:01:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <1992Nov17.012733.13376@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:

>What's so sacred about a nuclear family? 
>
>-- 
>David M. Nieporent   | Mike Mussina 1993 AL Cy Young Winner
>niepornt@phoenix.    |------------------------------------ 
>   princeton.edu     | "I still believe in a place called Hope."
>Clinton/Gore '92.  Don't stop thinking about tomorrow.

It's one of the few things left that is not politically correct.

Ted

-- 
"We will bury you! We will bury you! We will bury you!"
      - some ex-Soviet leader            
                   krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.drugs