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From: psyco4@rosie.uh.edu 
Subject: Re: UPDATED: FAQL: X-Men Characters
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Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 20:28:00 GMT

In article <15OCT92.16626052.0103@VM1.MCGILL.CA>, CXMP <CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA> writes...
>                         X-Men Characters
>                     Martin Phipps     Writer
>
Just a few minor points...


>Artie Maddicks: FA: X-Factor #2
>                LA: NM Annual #7

He, as well as Leech and Taki, appeared in X-Force Annual #1.

>Fenris: FA: UX #194
>        LA: UX #268
>        Andrea and Andreas Strucker are the twin offspring of Baron
>      Wolfgang von Strucker.

Their Last Apperance was X-Men #7

>Gateway: FA: UX #227
>         LA: UX #251

LA: UX #281
>Leech: FA: UX #179
>       LA: NM Annual #7
Again...X-Force #1

>Nasty Boys: Gorgeous George, Hairbag, Ranrod and Ruckus
>            FA: X-Factor #75
>            LA: X-Factor #75

Hairbag and Slab showed up in X-Factor #78

>Spiral: FA: Longshot #1
>        LA: X-Factor Annual #7

>Yukio: FA: Wolverine LS #1(of 4)
>       LA: UX #175

She showed up a few ish back in Wolverine...can't reember the numbers tho.
It was the one that Yuriko died...
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:42:12 -0400 
From: Chris Holly <maverick+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Family Tree (eas Re: Theory: Cable has a daughter!)
	<92596@netnews.upenn.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.xbooks: 12-Oct-92 Re: Theory:
Cable has a dau.. Patrick McClue@eniac.sea (1175)

> When CAble was first introduced, he said that he had a son missing (same
> time that Rictor said something about his father...whom we still know
> nothing about....)

> Where does Cable's son fit into this?  Maybe Stryfe/Cable is Jean and Scott's
> kid and Sinister is cable's kid changed by Apocalypse....very unlikely, but
> I won't be surprised if those writers do something like this...maybe not
> now since I said it public...and they always change  the story when their
> ideas are no longer "secret".

	Cable did claim to have a son way back in New Mutants (issue#: late
80s-early 90s) somewhere.  And Richtor in the same issue mentioned his
father a direct link between the two was quite obviously replied.  Later
Cable and Domiono speak of the mystery man again (his name was Tyler). 
Later, when Cannonball asks Cable about his son still Cable tells
Cannonball of the story of Tyler and he says that Tyler was never his
son and that the fact that he was was a misconception born of Richtor's
ignorance.  Here is where the conflict lies.  Richtor never suspected
that Tyler was Cable son.  He also never voiced the fact that Tyler was
his father to Cable or Cannonball, he kept this to himself.  Therefore
Cannon ball should have never known to ask Cable about  a son because
noone had ever mentioned the fact before except Cable and that was in a
thought balloon not a verbalization.  So, somewhere there is a
continuity error.  If someone has some insight into explaining all of
> this please share it because its got me completely baffled.


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From: louis@grandis.Berkeley.EDU (Louis Reash)
Subject: Re: Fallen Angels
Reply-To: louis@grandis.Berkeley.EDU (Louis Reash)
Organization: Ansoft Corporation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:44:18 GMT

In article <910252m.10.718466327@ace.acadiau.ca>, 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca
(DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON) writes:
!>     < stuff deleted >
|>     Finally, there was Chance, an urchin with seemingly no powers.
|> 

     Actually, Chance (acording to the Marvel Superhero RPG Handbook)
has the ability to 
increase or decrease the power of a mutant.  

Louis Reash      'It's deja vu all over again' - Unknown
louis@ansoft.com 'The brighter the picture, the darker the negative' 
                   - Batman the Animated Series 'Two-Face'
Disclaimer: My boss doesn't listen to what I say, why should you?
From: thanatop@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Brian Donald Jacobson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: the flames lick nearer, my fellow mutates...
Date: 15 Oct 1992 16:07:47 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
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Originator: thanatop@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

	Ah! Get those Bics and Zippos away from me, you hellhounds!

	I guess I just wanted to say first that I didn't mean much
	by the Spider-Man 2099 thing, I just wanted PAD to know
	I liked it. Kill Aunt May?!

	I went out and bought a dictionary and this is what its said:

	Mutant: adj: relating to or produced by mutation. (Mutation was:
	n. a change in hereditary character. mutate was: v. undergo 
	mutation) Duh was defined as:  an onomatopeia used often by
	Brian to imply how stupid he looks around x-philes...

	(I made that last one up myself.)

	I was under the impression that Miguel in SM 2099 #1 had erased his
	old genetic template and attempted to replace it with the original.
	the Rapture drug had latched onto his old so...but that AAAAARRRROOOONN
	dude who fell to his death put the spider and man templates together.
	Then again...
	a mutant usually manifests one main power, as implied by Magneto in
	Acts of Vengeance when seeking out the orig. Spider-Man who was
	Super Dave (no no no...) Captain Universe in disguise.

	Lastly, the fellow who wrote me about the age problems in an X-2099
	title was mistaken. I had implied that Jubilee had come back with
	Bishop (before you flamed my time travel) and that Sam's Highlordness
	has not been explained enough to tell us HOW he is going to age, etc.
	The others would be new but I thought that the Franklin Richards and
	Co. group was interesting...they were just thoughts! not concrete boots.

	Excuse me y'all, I have to go torch my local Fox network for wasting
	my valuable video tape with George of the Jungle when I wasn't
	home to know that they were pre-empting X-Men.

					So shut up already!!
					Lubs and Disses,

					thanatop
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
Date: 14 Oct 92 10:56:10 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

>>Personally, I liked this part (you might remember I'm the one who
>>nuked Canada in alt.comics.LNH and generally has it in for Canada) 
>>:+).
> You NUKED CANADA????? Watch it my friend. We may only have 25 million people 

yaaay!  Nukem!  Nukeem  all!

> up here, but do you really want 25 million people ticked off? :-)
> Canada. I mean, look at it : Weapon X, Deadpool, Tolliver, Department K, 
> everything. Now, I don't really object to this, but I do have a problem that 
> practically none of this has been reflected in Alpha Flight, the CANADIAN 
> super-hero group. My only consolation is that this is changing slightly in  

I beg your pardon, but Department K is VERY well known in Alpha Flight...  Ever
since its original creation.  You probably haven't read back that far, huh?

wReam...
Ultimate Ninja of LNH

P.S.  I really should be doing my homework!
From: c60b-3fe@e260-4d.berkeley.edu (Coffee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: The Jamie/Siryn thing
Date: 15 Oct 1992 20:08:47 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <1992Oct10.034046.1265@abo.fi> MHANNINEN@finabo.abo.fi (Mika H{nninen Inf) writes:
>In <1992Oct9.141958.16230@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu writes:
>
>Uhm, sorry to say this but: the max was defined as 40(ish) about the time that
>PAD took over. there was a rather big debate on the merit(or lack of) of the
>powers of two (which is what allmost everyone thought the max was based on).
>Then someone with authority (probably PAD) stated that it was, indeed, 40.

Well 40 is close enough to "50 or so" for me.  Which
is what I said in the first place (had to delete that part
because my post isn't long enough).  I'd really check, but
I dont bring my collection on campus with me and I doubt any
real specific answer would be found anyway.

Coffee :)
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From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: The DARKFORCE 
Date: 9 Oct 92 10:40:40 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <m0mdBtQ-0000rDC@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>, rich.bellacera@amail.amdahl.com writes:
>>  The Vanisher? Who knows, who cares.
> Not that anyone cares, but he has been spotted in the most recent issue of New
> Warriors.  Apparently his "darkforce" power is outta control and he wanted to
> seek out Silohette to see if her powers are outta control too.
> Are we on the verge of the "Darkforce Saga"????
> How many mutants and non-mutants currently weild the darkforce anyhow?
> 
> Vanisher
> Silohette
> Darkstar
> Blackout
> Asp
> Cloak

Shroud, from Avenger fame.
Not to mention many sorcerors have used it in the past including
Dr. Strange and NightMare.  Assorted Demons.  (Do they count?)


				wReam...
		  Ultimate Ninja of the Legion of Net.Heroes!

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From: 910252m@ace.acadiau.ca (DWAYNE ALLAN MACKINNON)
Subject: Re: The Jamie/Siryn thing
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:06:18 GMT

In article <1b2s94INNl45@agate.berkeley.edu> c60b-3fe@web-3f.berkeley.edu (Coffee) writes:
>From: c60b-3fe@web-3f.berkeley.edu (Coffee)
>Subject: Re: The Jamie/Siryn thing
>Date: 9 Oct 1992 02:54:28 GMT
>In article <92213@netnews.upenn.edu> dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue) writes:
>>I think the kenetic energy is redirected to making the dupe...he has tto have some energy source.  now there should be a limit of how much kenetic energy
>>he can absorb...at some point, there should be a blow that would not only
>>make a dupe, but also cause him (both of them?) pain.
>>
>>Since he doesn't really feel the empact of the blow himself, he isn't hurt.
>>He is still subject to the momentum of the object that is hurled at him.
>>Cannonball would make another Jamie, but both Jamies would be knocked off his
>>feet (would another set of Jamies be created when they land on the ground?
>>most likely yes).  When "pure" kenetic energy, like gambit's cards would not
>>cause him to fall down, but just multiply.
>
>I remember back in X-factor when they had jamie fighting his dupe, they
>just pounded on each other, making more and more duplicates until they
>maxed out, and then finally duplicates started getting knocked out.  I
>think at the end of the fight, all the bodies were counted and came out
>to about 100.  So Jamie has a max of 50 or so.
>   I think whether or not an impact hurts Jamie or not is if he is
>consciously thinking about forming a duplicate.  I dont think there is
>a set amount of kinetic energy needed to form a duplicate.  I've seen him
>make duplicates by snapping his fingers or tapping himself on the head.  If
>that's all it takes to make a duplicate, then when Cannonball hits him, there
>should be way more than the 6 or 7 dupes that were made. 
>   Synopsis?  If you can sneak up on him, you could probably take him out
>quick and easy, otherwise bring an army :)
>
>Coffee


You know, IMHO, Madrox doesn't have to consciously think of it to form a 
dupe. Not all the time, anyways. He may have to to form a dupe with such a 
small amount of energy as snapping his fingers, but I believe that the 
amount of energy from a good punch on up will create a dupe every time 
unless he's at his maximum.

BTW, anyone know that this "greater the amount of energy, the more 
duplicates are made" is actually a "new" interpretation of Madrox's 
abilities? When he first appeared in FF, he got punched a number of times by 
the thing, and each time he only split ONCE.

DMK
Acadia University, Nova Scotia, Canada.
From: CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Cutioner's Song Part 5
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:17:29 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <visser.718593649@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:
> I think that the characters have become totally one-dimensional.
>I can't see storm or any of the other x-men who knew sam, rictor, sunspot
>and Syrne would both treat them like they had never met and to imprison
>them without any reason whatsoever.  Its particurally bothersome that
>a group like the x-men would take orders from a bunch of government
>mercenaries like x-factor and allow alex to act as if he were the only
>one involved in the decision making process.

Last I saw, Storm was getting decked by Apocalypse and Cyclops was
being held by Stryfe.  Alex is the leader of X-Factor and it's good
to see him aserting some control for, otherwise, Val would be calling
all the shots.

BTW, here's my synopsis: Apocalypse arrives, Jubulee throws a tantrum,
Lorna has a good cry, Psycloke considers putting the Prof out of his
misery, Apocalypse decks Iceman, the Beast and Storm, Stryfe tortures
Jean (and shows some remorse), Val gives a debriefing, Wolverine and
Bishop beat some people up, Apocalypse finishes off the Blue Team,
Alex and Gambit talk to Canonball and Wolverine and Bishop confront
Cable.  Looks to me as though this whole thing was an exercise in
setting us up for the next issue.

("Slice!"?  "Records Room"?  This does not bode well for those of us
who were hoping that Scott's writing was improving.  Oh well.)

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From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Men 2099
Date: Thu,  8 Oct 92 01:09:36 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I think you can safely assume that if X-MEN 2099 is published, it will have
absolutely nothing to do with the current X-Men beyond the title.  No
more than SPIDER-MAN 2099 relates to Peter Parker, in tone, style, powers
or cast, beyond the name of the costumed identity.

PAD
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From: p0g3@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (GALBRAITH)
Subject: This is only a test, I repeat, only a test.  Thank-You.
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:05:06 GMT

Just trying to see if I got this .sig thing figured out yet.
Just ignore me and continue with whatever you were doing before
I interrupted. Thanx.

-- 
			Thus Sayth The Crazy Kid.

			C. Chris G. Galbraith
 _   _   _
From: sl859@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Uncanny #295
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:08:28 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

>>yaaay!  Nukem!  Nukeem  all!

> Hey man, don't mess with me when it comes to the Flight!!!! :-)
> 
>     Seriously, though, I have read practically EVERY appearance of the 
> Flight in any comic anywhere. I've even read the appearance in Crystar. Rest 
> assured, Department K is a VERY new invention. I believe you have Department 
> K mixed up with Department H, which was the government department 
> responsible for the Flight's creation.

A very ineffective Nuke, Drizzt.  Next time could you please do a better job.
All these departments make me remember why I hate Rob Leechfield so much...

wReam...
Ultimate Ninja

P.S.  I still REALLY ought to be doing my homework.
From: nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Men 2099
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:22:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <67355@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>I think you can safely assume that if X-MEN 2099 is published, it will have
>absolutely nothing to do with the current X-Men beyond the title.  No

>PAD

Ahh, pfooey!  You'd think they'd at least put Cable or Wolverine in!  :)
Or seriously--Cannonball _is_ an immortal...  At least he is now.  Who knows
what will happen to him in upcoming years!  :>

__NOVA__
_______________________________________________________________________________

"Why are you mumbling?"
"Because I've grown fangs, and if I open my mouth too wide you'll see them."
		SM 2099
_______________________________________________________________________________
From: barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Cable-Stryfe-Nathan/techno fits
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:37:25 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <BvyzJ8.1tz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tgt33358@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
    (Deus Imperator) writes:
> In article <1992Oct11.054853.9015@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> kogutt@ucsu.Colorado
    .EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:
>>In article <cepBCZS00Uh7E79dwC@andrew.cmu.edu> sw3r+@andrew.cmu.edu
    (Steven Kelly Woyicki) writes:
>>>Ok, here are my theories on the subject:

>>off the point, if someone could get close enough to shoot xavier,  why not
>>use a real gun (laser,projectile)?  Why use a tecno-virus shooter?  Pretty
>>dumb assassin (or editor).
 
> To paraphrase something from _Robin Hood._
> "But why a spoon, brother?  Why not a knife, or a sword, or an axe...?"
> "BECAUSE IT'S _BLUNT,_ you IDIOT!  It would HURT more!"  
> Nuff said.

"Because it's dull, you TWIT!  It'll HUUUUUUTTTT more!"

Ahem.  Anyway, maybe there's a reason for the technovirus; maybe it's
all a part of Stryfe's master plan.  Maybe he's so crackers that he
wants revenge using the same virus Apocalypse infected him with. 
Maybe the writers just figure it makes a better story!

                                        -Drizzt 

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From: cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Corey Weir)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Gambit Jean and Scott's son?
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:05:46 GMT
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland


   In response to whoever wrote the post on this topic, I commend you on
your amazing powers of observation and deduction. However, Mr.
LeBeau(..my favorite character..) has already been shown to have had a
family in New Orleans during the Ghost Rider crossover with X-men. I
don't recall Scott and Jean being cajun. However, your recognizing of
the similar power traits between the three seems to fall in line with a
theory of my own: that Remy LeBeau may be the child of one of Scott and
Jean's children in the future. The similarities are to great to be just
coincidental. Thanks for reading.
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: REPOST(?): FAQL: X-Men History
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:44:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.Bw8HpG.C67
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>                            X-Men History
>                      Martin Phipps      Writer

>      The X-Men first appeared in Uncanny X-Men #1.

No, the X-Men first appeared in X-MEN #1. The Uncanny was not added on, if
my fevered brain supports me, until sometime in the late 70s, early 80s.
First issue was by Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.

>Rogue joined in UX #171
>after making appearances in UX #158, Rom #31-32 and Dazzler #21-24.)

You left out her appearances, both real and dream (which, I'll admit, aren't
"appearances") in Dazzlers #27-29, I believe. Been awhile since I slogged
through THOSE issues...

>They were all resurrected by Roma,
>daughter of Merlin,

Daughter of Merlyn. These vowels, they're important, y'know.
-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: joak@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jonathan A. Kung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Dampening Rogue's mutant power
Date: 14 Oct 1992 18:51:49 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman) writes:
>I just thought of something!  Under your theory, Rogue would have lost her 
>absorbed powers when her powers were temporarily nullified after her re-
>integration!  _Or_ in Genosha, under Wipeout's influence.  So you see, Rogue
>_can_ permanently absorb someone else's powers, and it doesn't depend on her
>absorbing ability to keep them.

Right, okay.  Maybe someone can answer this question about Leech and
Wipeout, since I haven't my comics around:  has it been established
that they can nullify non-mutant powers?

-Jon Kung, thinking maybe he can save some face
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From: djh4535@zeus.tamu.edu (HARRIS, DUANE J)
Subject: marvel writers
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:27:00 GMT

how does marvel picks its writers.
what are the qualifications ect.

d.j.loki seth I
From: dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: X-Men 2099
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:44:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <67355@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>I think you can safely assume that if X-MEN 2099 is published, it will have
>absolutely nothing to do with the current X-Men beyond the title.  No
>more than SPIDER-MAN 2099 relates to Peter Parker, in tone, style, powers
>or cast, beyond the name of the costumed identity.
>
>PAD

Sure you say that now....but I can just imagine that Wolverine will still
be around.  He is suppose to be longed lived...and it would be just another
excuse to put Wolverine in yet another book!  (I think Woverine needs to
take a long nap....)


Patrick
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: El Aguila and Lobdell, or: Has Dave Lost It? (Was: Re: Alex & Lorna)
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:12:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.Bw8G8u.ID6
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>That's El Aguila, who appeared in Power Man and Iron Fist for awhile.  He
>may also have appeared in Marvel Team-Up, but I think his first appearance
>was in PM/IF.  I know that was where he got most of his appearances, anyway.
>And he had a one-shot by Lobdell in Marvel Comics Presents, not too long ago.

>The Walrus

And, in my continual frustration over not being able to up-and-up dislike
Lobdell, with the clear and potent distaste that Scavenger seems capable of
summoning up, I have to insist that the El Aguila story in MCP was a great
little piece of comedy, and a fine bit of writing by our current X-scribe.

-- 
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"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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