HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eric@quantum.uucp (Eric Johnson)
Subject: edge repairs - advice wanted
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 20:30:42 GMT
Organization: Quantum Software Systems, Ltd.
Distribution: na

I somewhat trashed one of my edges on a rock the other day - stretching a section
about 1/3cm out from the base, and putting a hefty (2 cm lengthwise by .75cm wide)
gouge through the base in the same spot. My problem is that since my skis are
foam core (Rossi), I am given to understad that replacing the edge section is not
feasable since there is nothing solid to attach the new edge material to. My
current plan is to bend the edge back as well as I can and reinforce the area with
epoxy, and lay up new ptex in the gouge, and file what will still be a somewhat
wobbly edge section level with the rest of the edge. I'll then always use that as my
outside edge. btw there is extremely little, if any, visible sidewall damage in
the area so I think the basic structural integrity of the ski is ok.

The question: does anyone have other, better ideas for how to effect a repair?

Needless to say these are definitely rock skis now. On the bright side, I no longer
have to search for an excuse to shop for new skis.
-- 
Eric Johnson (eric@quantum.qnx.com or try eric@quantum.on.ca)
Technical Development, Quantum Software Systems Ltd (QNX OS)
From: may@hpcesma.ce.hp.com (Elaine May)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Train to Winter Park
Date: 9 Jan 1993 01:28:24 GMT
Organization: HP Corporate Engineering - Palo Alto, CA
Distribution: usa
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I took the ski train once.  I, personally, did not care for it.  Problems
included:
  - must pay to park at Union station
  - scenery is pretty boring
  - train is slow
  - go through long tunnel to get to Winter Park -- on the getting there
    trip, the train is really pumping out diesel exhaust and the fumes are
    pretty noxious
  - you get up to W.P. at 9-9:30 and must be at the train station to
    go home before the lifts close

Berthoud Pass can be a bit interesting, but I would prefer that to riding
that train.
--
Elaine May                               Hewlett-Packard Corporate Engineering
may@hpcesma.ce.hp.com		         Palo Alto, California
--
Of course, after nearly getting run off the road on a recent trip to
Colorado by some gay-hater and seeing the increase in violence against
gays in Colorado after the passage of amendment 2, I doubt I'll be 
skiing in Colorado any time soon.  Fortunately, this is a good year for
snow in California.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.video
From: tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones)
Subject: Re: Anyone take their camcorder skiing this season? (hints wanted)
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:42:03 GMT

For what it's worth, I have an older camcorder, a Minolta 8000, but it is
small enough that I just stick it inside my coat while I ski. Hangs on the 
neck strap. Keeps it warm. This is real important cause Nicad batteries don't
like to give up their stuff when frozen! Like someone else said, the humidity
isn't a problem with a little care about yanking out the cold camcorder in
a hot steamy place. When actually filming, take it out of your coat and
shoot, then tuck it away as quick as you can. 

One thing I do that REALLY helps, I wear a tight thin stretch glove on the
camcorder hand. One of those "magic" gloves that you can buy for 99 cents
that are one size fits all (and I am a mens large hand). They aren't
particularly warm but they help a lot for filming. I wear it inside
my normal mitt. It is thin enough to operate the camcorder and fit in the
mitt but it offers some protection from wind and cold. Helps on
a long cold day of skiing/filming.

The lighting is a problem. Camcorders average the scene which makes 
skiers black blobs. Iris override is usually too difficult to make it work
properly. Same problems in still photography. Sure I can overexpose pretty
easily when I shoot to compensate, but inevitably the photo lab does
a scene average for printing and all my work gets undone!

Crashes are another problem. I have had a few wild ones while wearing the
camcorder. The worst damage so far has been the microphone. Oh well.
This camcorder has spent most of its life either on the ski hill, in the
waterski boat, in a housing 300 feet down in our lake or some other
interesting location that most people wouldn't dream of taking their
camcorder, so a busted mic is not too bad so far!

tj

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: prange@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Henry Prange)
Subject: Re: midwest skiing
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:09:36 GMT

Sorry, but skiing in the Midwest is a different sport that uses the same
equipment. It doesn't get bigger or better. For us it is necessary, as
in going to the theatre, to employ the willing suspension of disbelief
in order to enjoy it. Sigh...
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: rvele@ctp.com (Raymond Velez)
Subject: ski gashes
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Distribution: us
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:55:38 GMT

	Someone reported a gash in their ski, a good way to fix this
is to buy some P-tex and put that on.  You have to light it on fire,
so avoid getting it on you skin.  It can give one a nasty bruise. You
can find P-tex at most ski stores and they can tell you how to apply
it better.  Good Luck.
			
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From: davek@voosh.EBay.Sun.COM (Dave Karow)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Need A Ski Buddy This Weekend?
Date: 13 Jan 1993 01:49:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: davek@voosh.EBay.Sun.COM
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Keywords: ski moguls share transportation tahoe

Conditions are GREAT in Tahoe and I'm wanting more, more, more!
(I've been up the last two weekends -- it really is great up there)

If you are looking for a ski buddy to share gas and advanced
intermediate/expert runs with, give me a call or email:

408-276-1352 (24 hours OK)
David.Karow@Sun.COM

PS: I have Monday off so skiing Monday preferred but not essential.
From: aa382@Freenet.carleton.ca (Marc Sira)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Raven's Nest at Whistler
Date: 12 Jan 93 00:33:02 GMT
Reply-To: aa382@Freenet.carleton.ca (Marc Sira)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet


Just a note to those gourmets (of both food and skiing) planning to ski
Whistler this year: have lunch at the onslope Raven's Nest bistro. The
runs leading to the base of the Redline chair (and the top of the
nonfunctional Quicksilver chair...shall we boycott "Yan" detachables now?)
have been redesigned, so you won't get lost and find yourself (literally)
up Whistler Creek. Have the four cheese sauce with extra parmesan, then
ski the Cirque wall as cholesterol atonement...or have the veggie chili
and stick to groomed stuff...but go, and avoid the mainstream annoying
crowd at the Roundhouse and Pikas.


-- 
Marc Sira                    |
toh@micor.ocunix.on.ca       |  "Your god drinks...p-p-peach nectar!"
aa382@freenet.carleton.ca    '
Xref: sparky rec.skiing:9446 rec.photo:23547
From: ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994))
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.photo
Subject: Re: Powder's Annual Photo Special
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:48:01 GMT
	<1993Jan12.023603.13716@octel.com> <1993Jan12.170307.26257@wam.umd.edu>
Reply-To: <ssh@vnet.ibm.com>
Organization: ISSC Boulder

Allow me also to say that Powder Photo Annual this year returns the magazine to
its many years as *the* distributor of fine mountain sports photography.  Apart
from five one-page articles and minimal advertising, the issue is completely
devoted to displaying the photography (in single-page spreads for the most
part), introducing the photographers, and giving tips.  My hat's off to Steve
C. and the rest of the Powder crew.  *Great* work!  Like the old days...
--
Steve Hultquist                          Open systems and networking specialist
Change agent, Unix weenie, powder hunter                           ISSC Boulder
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: eriks@lin.foa.se (Erik Svensson FOA2)
Subject: Re: Info on Chamonix?
Keywords: France
Organization: FOA, Linkoping, Sweden
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:31:13 GMT

djm@kbs.citri.edu.au (David Mills) writes:

>eriks@lin.foa.se (Erik Svensson FOA2) writes:
>>a village at the end of the valley. The area I'm thinking of is called Grand
>>Monets (I _think_. My memory for names is horribly bad.). It starts with a big
>>cabin lift at the valley floor. Mid-feb isn't by any chance week 6 (7th - 14th 
>>feb), is it? I'm in Argientiere (sp ? again) that week.

>The lift you mention sounds more like Le Grand Montes (mon-tey).  But my

Yeah, that's the one.

>Two things I'd recommend before skiing in the area: one is radar reflectors,
>and the other is good accident insurance that will pay for a helicopter rescue
>(all injuries in these areas are transported by helicopter from the slope
>unless you're right near the bottom).  Radar reflectors are there pieces of
>heavy duty tape with a small piece of metal embedded in them that the radars
>used by the French rescue teams will pick up.  You stick them to your ski
>boots.  They will give you some chance of being dug up alive if you get caught
>in an avalanche.

A third recommendation (more for fun than security) is to hire a mountain
guide one day and do some off-pist skiing. Well worth the money and, if you're
lucky, you'll come back with your heart not in the usual place :->

cheers

--

     Erik Svensson
    Research Officer            National Defense Research Establishment (FOA)
 Guided Weapons Division        Stockholm, Sweden      eriks@fenix.lin.foa.se

"The problem with the future is that it keeps turning into the present"
 -- Hobbes
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: mccubbin@connext.ucs.sfu.ca (Bruce McCubbin)
Subject: Re: Skis to Boards
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:36:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.163043.11234@edsr.eds.com> hkelly@tantalum.eds.com (Kelly  
Shuldberg) writes:
  The one thing I noticed, though, is that boarders, or rather, people
> on boards, will never be ski patrollers, because they can't skate, climb,
> or generally get around like a person on skis can, and my experience is
> that getting around is most of patrolling (if I'd known they were going to
> make me go uphill, I never wouldda joined! ;-).
> 
I saw a patroller on a board at Whistler about a month ago.  I've never
seen one since!  Maybe it was just PR.  
  
Bruce
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: grant@clarinet.com (Grant Robinson)
Subject: Re: tire chains
Organization: ClariNet Communications Corp.
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 00:52:00 GMT

In article <155E03KLc8qd00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com> tom@uts.amdahl.com (Tom Goodwin) writes:

>It sometimes amazes me what you can do with chains (as opposed to cables)
>and a heavy 2wd car.  Last week I came upon a CHP patrol car down this
>unplowed road with 1 1/2 feet of snow.  

[Guess it was pretty much plowed by the time he got to the end :)]

>He was thrashing around a lot, but
>made it through without assistance.  (He'd been busy writing tickets for
>parking on the road in the way of the plows)

In my experience, having driven both 4WD and 2WD w' chains in heavy snow,
ground clearance tends to be more of a differentiating factor than
traction.

The one trick I picked up on this year:  Carry (and use) two sets of chain
tighteners.  The second set picks up any slack missed (or created) by the
first set, reducing chatter, and also acts as insurance in case one breaks.
They sometimes do, it happened to me once already this year.  (fortunately
this was after starting to use two sets).  Sounds silly, but you'll see a
lot of the locals doing it, and it's pretty cheap insurance.
-- 
Grant Robinson -- ClariNet Communications Corp, Sunnyvale, CA 
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: blix@milton.cs.uiuc.edu (Gunnar Blix)
Subject: Re: midwest skiing
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:39:46 GMT

If you're looking for the big stuff, there's the upper peninsula of
Michigan, but you might not have time to go that far.  I've heard good
things about Boine, but never been there.  If you're just doing a
short weekend thing, there's always Cascade and Devil's Head in
Wisconsin, but I'll agree that it's not the best.  If you want to try
something different, try Galena.  It's not the biggest ski-hill, but
the conditions are generally decent (like Cascade, I guess), but
there's more:  Galena is actually a charming little town with a winery
and some cool shops.  Right across in Iowa there's another hill at
Dubuque - you could actually do to different hills in a weekend...


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From: bdl@cruiser.uucp (Bob Lombard)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: tire chains
Keywords: chains, chains, chains...
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 17:36:39 PST
Distribution: usa
Organization: what? me organized? no way!

glenb@sr.hp.com (Glen Baker) writes:

>  r.e. which wheels to chain up on your 4X4. This is in the FAQ (we see
>  it every year). You'll always get at least three responses to the
>  question:
> 
>   1) Chain the front.
>   2) Chain the rear.
>   3) Chain both.
> 
>  All three responses are always written with an authoritative tone.

   How about chain the front going up the hill and chain the back going
   down the hill ???  This seems to work pretty well.  Chaining all four
   effectively dismembers the vehicle via vIbRaTiOn :)
> 
>  The *best* answer we've been able to come up with is:
> 
>   4) Consult your owner's manual. 

   TRUE !

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From: hilton@leechs.lzo.dec.com (Greg Hilton)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Please explain European Trail Colors
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:11:43 GMT
Reply-To: hilton@bahtat.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Company


The whole question of trail colours is pretty bad IMHO

You may have an 'easier' green down the mountain,
in Europe, which is basically a narrow road, with a sheer
drop on one side!

Not what I'd call easy, but 'cos the slope isn't
very step and it's pisted, they call it green!

Ever seen anyone trying to snowplough down one of these,
and wipe out near the sheer drop!

Greg
From: ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994))
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: tire chains
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:40:18 GMT
Reply-To: <ssh@vnet.ibm.com>
Distribution: ca
Organization: ISSC Boulder

>>>>> On 6 Jan 93 22:36:02 GMT, blake@wk60.nas.nasa.gov (Matthew W. Blake) said:

mb> 1) Does anyone know California/Nevada snow chain requirements for me;
mb>    specifically when "chains are required" is posted do I need them or
mb>    can I pass through in 4WD with only all terrain tires, not snow tires?

You don't need chains unless it says, "4wd with chains only", in which case
you're probably insane to be out, anyway.

mb> 2) If I need chains, do I put them on front or rear?

All four, I think.
--
Steve Hultquist                          Open systems and networking specialist
Change agent, Unix weenie, powder hunter                           ISSC Boulder
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jdt@voodoo.ca.boeing.com (Jim Tomlinson)
Subject: Free Volkls! (and a Look bitch)
Reply-To: jdt@voodoo.boeing.com
Organization: BoGART To You, Buddy
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:02:35 GMT


    Now that I've got your attention, I've got a question.  My wife's
boss, after hearing me bitch about my Look bindings, offered me the
bindings on his 'rock' skis (the bindings are Marker M46s), since he
was just going to give skis and bindings to Goodwill.  My wife brought
them home, and lo and behold, his 'rocks' are Volkls; the bases have a
couple of deep gouges which 'he didn't feel it was worthwhile
patching'.  Well, is he just too rich, or are these just low-end
Volkls? (is there such a thing?).  I always buy K2, so I have no
knowledge of the Volkl line, but they're 2-3 years old, light blue,
and on the tail it says:

    Volkl
    Titanal
    Frequenz Control System
    Double-Torsion Box

    In front of the toe binding we have a double box graphic, with a
DIN number in the left and the letter 'S' in the other box.  Underneath
that it says 'CAD Explosiv'.  What are these skiis?  Have I lucked out
(if they're not skiied out) or should I just take the bindings and give
the boards to charity?

Now about those Look bindings:
In article <C0E1BA.K0t@srgenprp.sr.hp.com>, glenb@sr.hp.com (Glen Baker) writes:
...
|>  Binding advice:
|> 
|>     Binding       Good Stuff                          Bad Stuff
|>  
|>     Look          Easy to get on in powder.    Not quite as "solid" of a feel
|>                                                as many other bindings. Toe
|>                                                tends to wobble a bit while
...

    I can attest to the wobble.  My real problem is with the heels: I
don't have the model number (they're 2-3 years old as well) but the
heel follows the age-old Look design of a barrel held to what we used
to call the turntable by two metal posts.  It's become glaringly
apparent that the posts are being made of a much cheesier material in
recent years; I'm about halfway through the inside ones from wear
caused by my inside edges.  When I took them in to have the rods
replaced, the shop guy said "we don't have those parts; Look doesn't
make money selling parts, they just sell bindings".  Obviously this was
BS;  I'm sure the guy had some in the back but hoped to sell new
bindings.  Anyway, I reversed the outside and inside rods on both skis
to buy time, but I'm wondering if anyone else has had this problem, and
if there's a solution (either Look- or shop-supplied).  This probably
won't be an issue much longer if I go with the Marker's mentioned
above; but thanks for letting me bitch about it.
    Thanks for all forthcoming info; if you want a copy of what info I
receive, let me know.
-- 
Jim Tomlinson                         (206)865-6578  \  "falling snow
BoGART Project              jdt@voodoo.ca.boeing.com  \  excellent snow"
Boeing Computer Services   ...uunet!bcstec!voodoo!jdt  \  - Anderson/Gabriel
From: fewings@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Fewings David)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Help photographing in snow
Keywords: photography, lighting, skiing
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:14:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan8.011417.20220
Organization: Western Washington University

einart@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Einar Traa) writes:

>A third method is to use the camera spot meter and measure off the 
>brightest patch of snow you can find, then open up a little over 2 stops.
>18 % is about 2.475 stops.

I would center the camera meter on snow exposed to sun and open up four (4) stops to get maximum white on that snow.  If the snow is not exposed to sunlight, center the meter on it and open up 2 to 3 stops to get slightly less than maximum white.  
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From: carlson@dwp.la.ca.us (Carlson Peters)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: inexpensive (read real cheap) motel/hotel in Mammoth
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:23:47 GMT
Organization: L.A. Dept. of Water & Power

In article <9301111738.aa19783@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> bbui@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (J S Bach) writes:
>Hi all, does any of you know and have the number of some real cheap motels
>or hotels in Mammoth?  Any info is greatly appreciated.
>Thanx,
>-- Bach --

I've never found anything cheaper than Motel 6.  Most stuff close in price
to Motel 6 comes with sagging beds and paper thin walls.


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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: waw@moose.uvm.edu (Mad Dog SkiDeath Wes,email Wesley.Wright@uvm.edu)
Subject: Re: midwest skiing
Originator: waw@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:45:48 GMT

From article <C0Ep0K.Io9@portal.hq.videocart.com>, by lkibben@portal.hq.videocart.com (Laura Kibben):
> enough! I gave Wisconsin a chance the winter before last and, well, there's 
> got to be more!
> 
> I've heard of bigger and better things in Michigan....does anyone know
> if they are actually bigger and better?  I'M DESPERATE!!
> 
Sorry, Laura. Better, maybe. Bigger? Not really. Boyne Mountain is about
the biggest and best Michigan has to offer, and it just ain't Whiteface.

I was exiled to Indiana for two winters when I was in college. I couldn't
take it. Your only hope is to move, preferably back west, 'cause there
ain't no snow in Vermont no mo'.


-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jhoesing@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Hoesing)
Subject: Nebraska and Iowa Ski Report (1/11/93)
Summary: Yes it's serious!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 23:24:12 GMT

 I just went skiing at Mt. Crescent in Iowa (about 25 minutes east of
Omaha), and it was great!  We have had about 6 inches of snow here
recently, and there is supposed to be at least 6 more inches tonight
and Tuesday.
 The conditions at Crescent over the weekend were great, with snow
varying from some powder (It didn't last long though), to packed.  There
was also some ice in some places.
Ok, so around 300 vertical feet of skiing isn't all that great, but when
you haven't skiied for over a year, it's better than nothing.  Besides,
there are some great views of the surrounding corn fields :-)

 Have fun!

Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.photo
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Help photographing in snow
Keywords: photography, lighting, skiing
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 18:24:40 GMT

Do the usual things:
1) Meter off of a hand (skin tones).
2) Bracket.  Don't even expect to get perfect shots.
3) Experiment.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
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