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From: vib%fns-nc1@MCNC.ORG (Victor Bur)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: (none)
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:00:35 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

Folks,

I have some questions about mail (regular mail, that is) to x-USSR.
I will appreciate any info you have on the subject.


1.  The mail to x-USSR is extremely sporadic: it is fast (about a
week) if it can make it, but probably 2/3 of my mail goes directly
into a black hole.  Someone told me that the mail on the CIS side is
being stolen and opened in search of cash - true? false? maybe?

2.  Does anyone have any knowledge how their postal system works now?
Is it still centralized?  What is the relationship between post
systems of newly created states, - particularly, between Moscow and
ex-republics?  Does international mail still go to Moscow regardless
of destination?

3.  Is a six-digit post index still alive?  At the time, it was
designed as the "all-union", accros-the-board system.  Will it change
now for each state?

4.  Return address on each envelop I receive (and often, addresses
posted on this group) begin with "CIS".  What is it - a requirement,
imperial atavism, expression of nostalgia or just unability to shake
off an old concept?  (After all, you don't precede the address with
"EC" when write to Paris, France).

Any additional information not covered in the batch above is welcome.
Please post, my e-mail is temporarily out-of-order.

Regards,
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: lana@meinesz.mit.edu (Svetlana Panasyuk)
Subject: Re: odessa
Organization: Massachvsetts Institvte of Technology
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:35:51 GMT

I would like to include myself.

Alexander Panasyuk.
From: VIZNYUK@MPS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (SERGEI VIZNYUK)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Who wants to spend summer on Black Sea ? - see precious proposal
              !
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:08:00 GMT
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: galina@watson.ibm.com (Galina Kofman)_
Subject: Re: Breakup of Czecho-Slovakia (repost from s.c.c-s)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:24:01 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <9207222137.AA18433@feds66.Prime.COM>  dleschin@FEDS66.PRIME.COM (Dmitri Leschiner) writes:
> |verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
> |writes:
> |
> |...
> |        that we should gather all communists (together
> |        with smokers and alcoholics) into one place
> |        and throw H-bomb at them. I wholeheartedly agreed :)
> |        Sometimes I really want to gather all nationalists
> |        (actually, all people who are interesting in
> |        their ethnic origins) together and slowly torture
> |        them to death.

> |        Misha.
>
>

Here, have a cigar, Misha.

/G.

"Stalo ticho-ticho na usey syamli..."
                          Pesnyari.
From: V.I.Lenin@KREMLIN.MAUSOLEUM.RED-SQUARE.MOSKVA.CCCP
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: CCCP
Summary: CCCP not dead !
Keywords: CCCP, Revival .
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:27:46 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>
Organization: Fight against Imperialism forever- Revival of the CCCP !

Apparently-To: soc-culture-soviet@sunet.se,
        talk-politics-soviet@ucbvax.berkeley.edu
Apparently-To: scs-l@indycms.iupui.edu

    I shall say what McArthur said: " I shall return. "

                                 V.I.Lenin
From: djohns@elm.circa.ufl.edu (David A. Johns)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re:  Ross Perot gave up
Date: 22 Jul 92 08:28:43 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, Gainesville

In article <9207171728.AA12058@feds66.Prime.COM> "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu> writes:

# >Tovagishi! Gevolutsiya otmenyaetsya! A tepeg' diskoteka!
#
# Pgevgatim bugzhuaznuyu gevolyutsiyu v nagodno-demokgaticheskyu,
# pgoletagskuyu gevolyutsiyu! Da sdgavstvuet sotsializm - svetloye
# budushchee vsego chelovechestva!!! Pavshie gegoi Los-Angeles'a,
# spite spokojno - vashi zhegtvy byli ne napgasny!

Could some kind soul explain for us foreigners what this r -> g accent
is?  Is the "g" meant to sound like a French "r", for instance?  Is
the accent making fun of some particular ethnic group in Russia?

Thanks,

David Johns


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: rudi@netcom.com (Rudolf Usselmann)
Subject: Wisotski Wnated
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 05:59:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

Anybody knows where to get Wisotski songs ?

rudik
uupsi!sparc!rudi
From: dleschin@FEDS66.PRIME.COM (Dmitri Leschiner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: faked man and CCCP
Date: 26 Jul 92 02:33:27 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

>Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:02:28 GMT
>From: Irina Kosinovsky <ikg1591@UXA.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
>
>I am glad you are such an admirer of mine, Dima. However, I cant say the same
>about you. Will you PLEASE learn the rules of puntuation? Its really hard
                                                 ^^
>to make sence of your posts sometimes.

In my punctuation, I'm just trying to imitate your spelling, my dear.

>
>>Your sincere fan
>>Dmitry
>Irina.
>P.S. My name is spelled with "y" at the end -- any good fen has to know
                                                          ^
Are you talking about hens and roosters?

>the proper spelling of the name of the person he claim to adore so...

Yes, you are right; I have to choose one of it...

>
>P.P.S. No flowers, please , my husband might get jealous.

OK. I'm _almost_ convinced...
but still adoring you,
Irina Kosinovsky...
               ^
D.
From: MCHENRY@GUVAX.GEORGETOWN.EDU (Bill McHenry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: MCI e-mail
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:36:00 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

X-News: guvax soc.culture.soviet:4823

>From: mack@BEN.DEV.UPENN.EDU (Laura Mack)
>Subject:MCI e-mail
>Date: 28 Jul 92 13:19:48 GMT
>Message-ID:<9207281319.AA03727@ben.dev.upenn.edu>

>Does anyone know how to connect to MCI e-mail in Russia?  I'm on
>internet and want to e-mail someone over there, but have no clue
>as to how to do it.  Any suggestions would be most appreciated!
>
>Thanks,
>Laura
>mack@ben.dev.upenn.edu

I don't know the protocol for sending from internet to MCI mail, but you
should be able to get some response to that. But MCI mail itself is
worldwide. Sending it to MCI MAIL means that they can access it in Moscow
just as well as I can in Washington. As longas they have a connection there
to MCI Mail. I know someone who does it via IASNET there.

Bill McHenry                   |Those who do not hear the past works
mchenry@guvax (bitnet)         |are condemned to recompose them....
mchenry@guvax.georgetown.edu   |                 -me
From: x1240@kiae.su
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Rouble to dollar course (question)
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:53:36 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

In soc.culture.soviet you write:

>I have here a person, who is trying to find out an exchange rate of rouble to
>dollar on Soviet Market (both official and "black" one).
>Any suggestions?

 Official (some days ago) :    1 $  =  161 rouble


Andrei.
From: oleg@Veritas.COM (Oleg Kiselev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: a final word
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:10:11 GMT
Reply-To: oleg@veritas.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Organization: Palo Alto Killifish Loft
X-Disclaimer: I speak for myself only unless explicitly indicated otherwise

>>   3. The sexy image. I can't imagine an underwear comercial performed
>>      by an ugly but verry intelligent and independent woman. Besides,

Why does an underwear model have to be beautiful?  She has to show the 
underwear well, i.e. have the breasts, hips and belly of an athletic 17 
year old girl.  The rest is irrelevant and since the target audience are
other women, the male concept of attractiveness is not relevant.

macko@pilot.njin.net (Peter C. Macko) writes:
>  I don't recall Laura ever stating that men should feel weaker.  She
>simply wishes that more men were willing to care for women as equals 
>and to take their very real problems more seriously.

She can help the process along by acting like a serious, intelligent, equal 
member of this group, instead of indulging in the theatrics and knee-jerk 
responces.
-- 
"... i heard the droning / in the shrine
	     of the sea-monkey / palace of the brine ..." -- Pixies.
Oleg Kiselev                                             oleg@veritas.com
VERITAS Software                           ...!{apple|uunet}!veritas!oleg
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:12:55 EDT
From: <LXS117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Romanov question.

I read a short article in the 8/3/92 issue of "TIME"
about a new book entitled "THE LAST TSAR: THE LIFE
AND DEATH OF NICHOLAS II."  In the last few para-
graphs there is mention of the Tsarevich Alexei
possibly surviving the slaughter of the Romanov
family.  Has anyone else ever heard this story?
Also, the author mentions that the bodies of
(or should I say remains of) 9 out of the 11
victims were found.  Is one of the missing
bodies possibly that of Grand Duchess Anastasia--
or is this whole scenario conjecture, i.e.
is it just a matter of two of the bodies being completely
destroyed?  Any thoughts, please?
                           Thanks!
                           Lizabeth
                           PSU Graduate Student
From: mack@BEN.DEV.UPENN.EDU (Laura Mack)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: MCI e-mail
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:19:48 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

Does anyone know how to connect to MCI e-mail in Russia?  I'm on
internet and want to e-mail someone over there, but have no clue
as to how to do it.  Any suggestions would be most appreciated!

Thanks,
Laura
mack@ben.dev.upenn.edu
From: verbit@brauer.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Looking for a movie
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:30:00 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Math, Harvard Univ.

In article <brawicz.712305560@sfu.ca> brawicz@fraser.sfu.ca (Boleslaw Andrzej Rawicz) writes:
>shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:

>>I am trying to find a movie called "The Inquest" (Doznaniye Pilota Pirx'a), a
>>joint Polish-Russian production of about 1982 or so. It is based on a story by
>>Lem. Is this movie available on video in Poland or Russia? 

>>Any help will be REALLY appreciated.


>I actually can't help you but I am also interested in movies based on
>Lem's books. I never heard about this movie (I left Poland in '81) and
>would certainly like to get it. Can you tell me a bit more about the
>movie, if possible ? 

>thanks,
>  B. Rawicz

The movie is not as good as the story, and cheesy somewhat.
Anyway, I believe that is is true to the spirit of Pirx's stories.

Highlights: a psychodelic movie composed by the evil robot's
brain and (:^}) his own arm being teared apart by the gravitation
of 40 g. I was ~twelve when I saw this and I was impressed.

Misha.
From: sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: single women
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:53:56 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: sheyn@csa


In article <Brt63B.19C@helios.physics.utoronto.ca>, lego@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Martin Lee Group) writes:
|> In article <3251@cis.pace.edu.UUCP> sikg21@cis.pace.edu (Svetlana Lomova) writes:
|> >In  <3523@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>  alkst9+@pitt.edu (Alexander Kovlov) writes:
|> >> Hey, mugiki!!!!
|> >>
|> >> Hochu russkuyu BABU, Americanskie iz gimov zaebali!!!! Gde dostat6?????
|> >> Da katis6 ono vse k eb... feni!
|> >
|> >Idi spusti v kulachok, i uspokoisya, pridurok.
|> >
|> >Svetlana
|> 
|> 
|> Gospoda!
|> Why don't you move somewhere to alt.sex.bestiality?
|> 
|> Or simply to alt.sex
|> 
|> You'll feel much better there.
|> 
|> This newsgroup is a kind of boring, isn't it?
|> 
|> V.S.
|>  
ya by skazal, chto podobnye perly gorazdo priyatnee obsuzhdeniy kak zakryt'
Mutlu-Pashu. Po krayney mere ya chistoserdechno smeyus' nad lyudskimi slabostyami
po prochtenii takih articles i poluchayu polozhitel'nye emotsii. That's why
I think they carry positive functions and should not be overwhelmed by intellectuals ( not that I am hostle to reading serious topics, it's just that
russian trasnliteration is hard to read on English keyboard, and texts in English
are full with a lot of purely book expressions which I, having lived here for
about 3 years, find extremely tough to comprehend ). Ideally I'd like to see
serious discussion here, and would invite people like Alexander Kovlov or 
Svetlana Lomova, who don't bother to choose words expressing themselves, to
Irc, channel #russian or one of its siblings to bring their enthusiam into
conversations that take place there.
From: rockyh@gyro.wv.tek.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Some help please
Date: 30 Jul 1992 10:34:05 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


I apologize if this the wrong place to post my plea, but my expertise and
access are limited.

What I need is an email address for:

	National Scientific and Research Institute
	for Physical, Technical and Radiotechnical 
	Measurements 

	VNIIFTRI, MENDELEEVO
	MOSCOW REGION, 141570

An email response would be greatly apprediated.  Thanks.

Rocky Harris
Wilsonville, Oregon

rockyh@gyro.wv.tek.com
From: macko@pilot.njin.net (Peter C. Macko)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Train muggings increasing in Russia
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:20:48 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


  gauss@cco.caltech.edu (Edward J. Gauss) writes:

>Is there a "gypsy" problem in Russia?  Why has it suddenly gotten worse?
>How do Russian nationals insure their own safety on Russian trains?  If

  By looking like struggling Russian nationals as opposed to wealthy
foriegn tourists.

>two women were simulataneously hit out of a group of 30 students, should
>this be representative of the statistics of travel safety in Russia there
>must be a problem of major proportion.  Stage coach travel in the American
>Wild West days was much safer than that.  

  I was in France a number of years ago on such a tour.  One of the girls
in our group had her purse stolen as well.  If Russia is any worse its more
then likely due to their economic problems.  There is a perception in Russia
that all American and German tourists must be wealthy.  Remember, the average
Russian makes about $13 per month.  Tourists often carry more then $300 on 
their persons.   This translates to over 2 years worth of work for most 
Russians.  In addition tourists are unfamiliar with the Russian legal system
and highly unlikely to see the perpetraitors again before they leave.  Finally
tourists are generally more vulnerable because they tend to be caught up in 
background "scenery" and are often oblivious to their surroundings.  So to 
look and act like a tourist makes you a beacon for such nefarious activities.
The best advice I can think of is to dress like a local, stay alert, and act 
like a New Yorker (ie. as if you know exactly where you are even if you've 
never been there before in your life.)

                                             -PCM
-- 

  Peter C. Macko                      Internet: macko@pilot.njin.net
  LCSR/Network Research                         macko@cs.rutgers.edu
  Telecommunications/Network Services     UUCP: {backbone}!rutgers!cs!macko
  Rutgers Computing Services,  Rutgers University (Piscataway, NJ)
From: bross@splatter.nas.nasa.gov (Bill Ross)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Rouble to dollar course (question)
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:51:40 GMT
Reply-To: bross@splatter.nas.nasa.gov (Bill Ross)
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation Facility NASA

In article <SCS-L%92072710373444@INDYCMS.BITNET>, RUBAN@hartford.bitnet ("Timur Y. Ruban") writes:
|> 
|> ... trying to find out an exchange rate of rouble to
|> dollar on Soviet Market (both official and "black" one)....

150 / $ on the street in St. P. about 3 weeks ago, up from
130 a week before (random sample). Probably for sums > $10.

Bill Ross
From: verbit@birkhoff.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: single women
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:32:53 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Math, Harvard Univ.

In article <LEONID.92Jul26183518@thyme.uchicago.edu> leonid@thyme.uchicago.edu (Leonid Andreev) writes:

>Dearest Igor:
>
>It's not the first time I meet this name - "Irc" in a context like
>"you'd better move to Irc with YOUR manner of expressing your
>feelings..." Gospoda, Vy vse neobychajno men'a zaintrigovali! 
>Soobsshite zhe mne skoree, chto takoe eto "Irc"! Sounds like it
>should be a real fun there!

The program called irc is Internet chatline. Basically,
it allows you to connect to a machine "irc server" and
communicate with everybody who is connected to the same
machine (or with some individuals). It works on all
machines which allow telnet. My question to Igor
is the following: which server you use? I never
heard about Russian channels on irc (though I never use
irc, but I looked at alt.irc.* newsgroups once or twice)

For Leonid: read alt.irc newsgroup!

Misha.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: ikg1591@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Irina Kosinovsky )
Subject: Re: faked man and CCCP
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:02:28 GMT

dleschin@FEDS66.PRIME.COM (Dmitri Leschiner) writes:

>|Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:14:36 GMT
>|
>|Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:16:37 -0400
>|From: sl31@CIS.PACE.EDU
>|
>|I just wanted to say that Greg Landsberg is a fake
>|created by Mr Markish. Pretending to be another man
>|was described by Dr. Freud as homomudizm.
>|
>|Svetlana Lomova
>|
>|
>|Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:03:09 -0700
>|From: sl23@CIS.PACE.EDU
>|
>|I just wanted to say that Greg Landsberg does not exist.
>|He is a fake created by Mr. Markish. This has been described
>|by Freud as homomudism.
>|
>|Svetlana Lomova


>Svetlana, I understand you are a great gal and have a lot of
>accounts, but why you are trying, besides Irina Kosinovski,
>whom I am an admirer of too, to imitate also out dear never
>ever tired or break giving V.I.Lenin at the same time? If I

I am glad you are such an admirer of mine, Dima. However, I cant say the same
about you. Will you PLEASE learn the rules of puntuation? Its really hard
to make sence of your posts sometimes.

>recall it correct, pretending by a women to be a corpse of a
>male communist leader was long ago described by well-known
>Prof. von Zohn in the 1849 issue of Jaehrbuch fur
>Psychoanalytik und Psychopatologik as womomunnism.


>Your sincere fan
>Dmitry
Irina.
P.S. My name is spelled with "y" at the end -- any good fen has to know
the proper spelling of the name of the person he claim to adore so...

P.P.S. No flowers, please , my husband might get jealous.
From: vadim@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Just a test. Please do NOT read.
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:47:16 EDT

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HA CKAKY?
KTO YMEET METHYTb CTAKAH,A HE MOPKOBKY, TEM KPACOTKAM-CTEPBAM B CPAKY?
TOT BCE PABHO HE CTAHET EXATb B TPAMBAE,OXYEBATb OT COBKA.
From: oleg@Veritas.COM (Oleg Kiselev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: punctuation
Date: 25 Jul 92 09:27:30 GMT
Reply-To: oleg@veritas.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Organization: Palo Alto Killifish Loft
X-Disclaimer: I speak for myself only unless explicitly indicated otherwise

Markish:
>> any good fen has to know the proper spelling ...
>Indeed, what about spelling?

"Fen" is a word that comes from a particular American sub-culture.  It
goes along with "filk."
-- 
"... i heard the droning / in the shrine
	     of the sea-monkey / palace of the brine ..." -- Pixies.
Oleg Kiselev                                             oleg@veritas.com
VERITAS Software                           ...!{apple|uunet}!veritas!oleg
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: robbie@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au ()
Subject: Address in Tblisi
Organization: Computing Centre, University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:54:51 GMT

Hi all, Can anyone supply me with a FULL address for the botanical gardens
in Tblisi, Georgia? This would be most appreciated.

Robbie McDonald.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: sheyn@csa.bu.edu (Igor Sheyn)
Subject: Re: faked man and CCCP
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 02:56:14 GMT
X-Posted-From: csa.bu.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: serg@appmath.uchicago.edu (Sergey Reznikov)
Subject: Re: odessa
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:33:45 GMT

In article <9207282300.AA26035@feds66.Prime.COM> "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu> writes:
>>Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 04:05:27 GMT
>>From: "Mikhail S. Verbitsky" <verbit@BIRKHOFF.HARVARD.EDU>
>>
>>Writers:
>>Ilya Il'f, Evgenii Petrov, Valentin Kataev, Eduard Bagritsky,
>>Yurii Olesha, (all Jews :)
>
>Are you sure Evgenii Petrov and Valentin Kataev were Jews?
>To the best of my knowledge, they weren't.

Nor Olesha, if I remember correctly.

A. Akhmatova was born near and raised in Odessa.


Sergey Reznikov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky)
Subject: Dan (was Re: Stop forgeries !)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:32:34 GMT
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Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

One more message from Dan:

"Vot for Presidente Bushe and me"
Dan Quyale
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: sam@janus.chimkent.su (Yuri)
Subject: Anecdot : About Stalin (russian)
Keywords: stalin
Reply-To: sam@janus.chimkent.su
Organization: Janus Ltd,XSU
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 09:14:55 +0300

         Zastupnik

Kak-to v prisutstvii Aleksandrova Stalin
sprosil ego zhenu Lyubov' Orlovu :
- Tebya muzh ne obizhaet ?
- Inogda obizhaet ,no redko.
- Skazhi emu ,chto,esli on budet tebya
obizhat', my ego povesim.
Tut ,polagaya situaztiyu shutlivoy,
Aleksandrov sprosil :
- Za chto povesite ,tovaritch Stalin ?
- Za sheyu , - mrachno i ser'ezno otvetil votchd'.
-- 
Sam@janus.chimkent.su ( Yuri Holodov )      "Ask, and it will be given to  
    Post Box 7 (seven)                   you ; seek , and you will find ; 
       Chimkent-38                       knock , and it will be opened to   
          486038 xUSSR                   you.