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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Scorpii)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Where the frig is TRANSIT?
Keywords: ldkgfh
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:14:22 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <C1Iq60.CsC@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason) writes:

> 

> I am getting a little annoyed here. Where is Transit in Illinois?
> WIll I ever get to read this book?
> And what does "cyberpunk" entail?
> Can anybody supply the ISBN?

> Jason.

I don't know about Illinois...
I'm sure you will eventually get to read _Transit_...
"Cyberpunk" is the computer geek's idea of literature...
(And before anyone says anything, 1/2 of my intellectual makeup is "computer
geek"...it's just that the other half is "English Lit snot")
And the ISBN is 0-426-20384-4.

Drewcifer
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From: 00kacohn@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Lalla Ward
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:20:41 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


     Somebody mentioned that Lalla Ward married Tom Baker after her run on
"Doctor Who."  I could be wrong, but I heard that they divorced a couple of
years later; I also heard that Tom has since married again, but I don't know
about Lalla...

Casey
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From: richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter)
Subject: Re: Wanted: DW bloopers...
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 11:34:37 GMT

In article <93022.152731SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET>, SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET (Steve W Hill) writes:
|> Of course, there's the scene in "Earthshock" when Adric is punching
|> in codes right before he dies, and Matthew Waterhouse knows that the
|> explosive charge in the keyboard is about to go off and he keeps
|> reaching for the keys and pulling his hands away real quick.

Yes, I noticed that he did seem to have a fair idea that the console
was about to explode in a shower of sparks and painfully hot things.
Almost as if someone had told him..... creepy, was Adric able to see
the future :-)

Someone else mentioned the blooper (what the ****s a blooper?) in 
Earthshock of the stumbling Cyberman. Give me one scene in that entire
production (or in any Cyber Story) where the men in costumes weren't
walking in to sets, other people, walls, etc, and stumbling around
blindly. OK so the stumble you mentioned was more obvious - and very
funny). What I liked was the way two cybermen were merrily chatting
away to each other just before Tegan and friends attacked them. What
the hell were they chatting about? The weather? They really seemed to
be having a nice conversation before they got shot.

I could go on, but you've probably fallen asleep.

Happy Halibut V

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From: mastr@husc8.harvard.edu (claudia mastroianni)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: What has he got in his pocketses?
Date: 23 Jan 93 02:03:00 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1993Jan18.184326@cogs.sussex.ac.uk> richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter) writes:
>In article <1993Jan15.112419.2215@bradford.ac.uk>, S.J.E.Champion@bradford.ac.uk (SJE CHAMPION) writes:
>|> 
>|> Hi
>|> 
>|> I believe that, in Destiny of the Daleks,
>|> the book which Tom pulls out to read
>|> is by Oolon Colluphid ( unsure spelling ).
>|> Many Douglas Adams fans would have recognised
>|> this book as appearing in his Hitchhikers
>|> trilogy.
>|> 
>|> As Douglas Adams was a script editor for
>|> this series, perhaps that explains it.
>
>Do you think he was trying to imply that the Hitch Hikers
>trilogy in five parts could have existed in the Whoniverse?
>Probably just an in joke but you never know.....

Aw, phooey, beat to the punch.  I was about to post the fact that this book
appears on the show, but read the newsgroup first on the off-chance that
someone had already done so.  I *do* know fans who try to maintain that
Hitchhikers and Who are therefore in the same universe!  Given events in the
fifth part of the trilogy, I sure hope not!

Well, as long as the book gets added to the pocket-list, I'm happy....
doesn't take much, does it.  The title of the book was something cosmological,
like "How the Universe Began," prompting a line from the Doctor about how the
author got his facts all wrong, and why didn't he ask someone who'd
actually *been* there.

Anyone know the exact title?

Claudia

P.S.  I managed to stun friends I watched Destiny with most recently.
They had seen the episode before but had never noticed the title/author
of the book.  We had to pause the tape for a moment while one guy sat
staring in disbelief at the screen.

:-)
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From: pjam@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: "The Overseers": PAL/SECAM formats available! <Beta, too>
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:36:11 GMT

	
	Eleventh Hour Productions is pleased to announce that

			"The Overseers"
	       -an original Doctor Who 34 min episode

   is now available in PAL and SECAM format as well as NTSC.  Copies on 
BETA tapes can be made, too.  "The Overseers" is a fan-made original Doctor 
Who episode featuring the further adventures of the "eighth" (n-th?) Doctor 
and his 20th century Earth companion Simon as they visit the strangely con-
trolled civilization of the planet Vanestra...

	"The Overseers" was completed in the fall of last year and is now 
available for distribution at cost (postage + cassette  /or/  postage along
with sending your own cassette).  Details to follow:

	"The Overseers" is available in Canada for...
		$ 7.00  (for cassette and ground postage), or  
 		$ 3.00  (for postage only...you send cassette of your choice)

	"The Overseers" is available in the US for..(*).
		$ 9.00  [$ 7.20 US]  (cassette + postage to US)
		$ 5.00  [$ 4.00 US]  (postage only with your own cassette)

   * the exchange rate may be more favorable to the US than given here, so
judge yourself accordingly!!

	Copies of "The Overseers" are, as stated above, also available in PAL 
and SECAM formats as well as on BETA tapes... Please contact me for details
on how to obtain them (I've run out of time to type it all out now!!! ;-),
and a *posting* on how to accquire PAL/SECAM/ <beta> copies of "The Overseers"
is forthcoming. 

			-Cheers!    
					Phil `pjam' McCausland
					head honcho 
					Eleventh Hour Productions
From: maujs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Wanted: DW bloopers...
Date: 28 Jan 1993 10:28:22 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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In article <1993Jan27.161423.685@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
>
>While I'm at it I might as well run down the list of errors in "Remembrance
>of the Daleks"...

	It's being a bit picky, but at no point during the story do the
Doctor and Ace tell the rest of the cast that these alien creatures are
called 'Daleks'...and yet by the end of part 1 that's what they're calling
them... :-)

Jonathan Morris

>
>Steven.K.Manfred
>
Subject: Re: Video Tape Edits 
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Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 13:36:13 +0000

In article <C1BKyq.9qB@acsu.buffalo.edu> rpk@niagara.edu writes:

>Hello,
>
>   I've been slowly collecting the CBS/Fox videotapes, and wanted to find
>out which tapes have been edited, and which have not.  Since I don't have
>access to regular Doctor Who (PBS dropped in late '80s) the tapes I can
>get ahold of are all I will have.  Recently saw "Terror of the Zygons" and
>"Revenge of the Cybermen" in a store, but wanted to find out the edits, if
>any.  I refuse to buy "The Brain of Morbius" that has been edited to 59 min.
>Read that the UK version now is all intact, why not the US/CA version?
>Enough said, from responses I get I will try to make a summary and make it
>available on my FTP archive at (frontios.niagara.edu).  Thanks for any/all
>replies, and please flood my email if necessary, I consider DW worth it! ;-)
>
>Take care.
>
Certainly my copy of Brain of Morbuis is longer than 59 mins more likely
90 mins, however it is not in Episode format and I beleive that there have
been cuts. Pyramids of Mars suffers for the same reasom but I heard 
where that this was going to be shown as the Tom Baker epi on BBC2 (Genesis
of Daleks is actually being shown) :-(

Dave...

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From: drwho@iastate.edu (Greg Bentley)
Subject: Re: "Good Dalek" Question
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:42:16 GMT

In <1993Jan21.171611.24279@pyra.co.uk> hugh@pyra.co.uk writes:

>Good folks,

>I  am posting this on behalf of a friend, who wishes to know the answer  to
>the following :-

>Do  you  remember  the name of the story that had Dr.  Who  distilling  the
>Human  Factor  and injecting it into a Dalek who then became a  good  Dalek
>because  he could ask the question "Why ?" The Dalek's name was Peter if  I
>remember correctly.

Although I haven't seen or read it myself, I believe the story you're refering
to is "Evil of the Daleks" which is a Patrick Troughton story.  Unfortunately
I don't know of a video or book being available for this.  Someone correct
me if I'm wrong.  (For once I hope I am.  :-) )

>Hugh.

            Greg Bentley                    drwho@iastate.edu
From: NG.LAY@forsythe.stanford.edu (Laurie Yadon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: new episodes
Date: 24 Jan 1993 15:25:54 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
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In article <C1DM01.2IM@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff) writes:
> gregoryf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Greg Fink) writes:
>
>> there have been no official episodes made since the camera's
>> stopped rolling on survival.  However the BBC film club has made
>> two short films containing a very doctor who like storyline.
>> They feature colin baker, nicola bryant, sophie aldred and
>> others.  There have also, I'm sure, been
>
> The BBC Film Club is working on a third video with Colin Baker
> and Nicola Bryant, which should be out sometime this spring.

Colin says the filming was completed early last week, so hopefully
it won't be long until the video (entitled IN MEMORY ALONE) is
available both in the U.K. and in the States!  His opinion, BTW,
is that it's the best of the three they've done so far.  And plans
are in the works for a fourth video....

Laurie Yadon
Coordinator/Editor
The Baker Connection
(Colin's official American fan club since 1987)
From: msc9309@geovax.ed.ac.uk (Dave H.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Lalla Ward
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:10:06 GMT
Organization: University of Edinburgh, Geography Department.

In article <1993Jan21.162041.13912@bsu-ucs>, 00kacohn@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
> 
>      Somebody mentioned that Lalla Ward married Tom Baker after her run on
> "Doctor Who."  I could be wrong, but I heard that they divorced a couple of
> years later; I also heard that Tom has since married again, but I don't know
> about Lalla...
> 

I think I remember Douglas Adams saying something about him introducing her
to Richard Dawkins (of 'Blind Watchmaker' fame), and that they eventually
got married. This was in October 1992 when Adams was answering questions
after a book reading. He mentioned it as an aside when talking about Shada.

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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: lalla ward
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:43:09 EST

giggey@ecf.toronto.edu (GIGGEY MIKE S) asks:

-> What happened to Lalla Ward?

She was in one HORRIBLE vampire movie....something like "The Vampire
Circus".....the high spot was when "Romona" graced the screen!  I don't
know how much she got paid for this one, but it wasn't enough!
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From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Castrovalva
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:48:38 GMT

In article <jrk.728080952@zen.sys.uea.ac.uk>, jrk@sys.uea.ac.uk (Richard Kennaway) writes:

[Stuff about Escher links in Castrovalva deleted...]

|> Presumably the programme makers intended these, but then why were they
|> not more explicit?  I didn't notice a single impossible cube, endless
|> staircase, or intricate tesselation.  Perhaps they couldn't get
|> permission from Escher's estate for a more substantial use of his images?

Maybe because, as you said, they're IMPOSSIBLE!?!?! **YOU** try building an
impossible cube or an endless stairway!

I suppose they could have painted them all over the walls, but that would have
looked forced and ruined the effect. I thought of the design of Castrovalva as
a tribute to Escher, one pulled off very well..

If you want to see Eschers in full force, buy the L'Officier books...

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From: doctor1@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patrick.b.hailey)
Subject: Re: Wanted: DW bloopers...
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:06:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.035607.15176@cas.org> rmt51@cas.org writes:
>|> that made it clear the scene was doomed anyway?  I can't see him messing up
>|> a take just because he thought of something mildly funny to say.
>
>Why not?  Tom Baker was a very light-hearted Doctor.

Because blowing a take is expensive.  It's one thing to have some fun during
rehearsals and even producer's run-throughs, but quite another to goof off
when you're on the sound stage (sound-closet? we're talking Dr Who here.),
all required extras are in place, all required crew is in place, all required
special effects are in place, someone is actually getting paid to operate
K-9, film is rolling...

I have to believe he did it because he forgot his line and couldn't fake it,
so the take was doomed anyway.

>There was no context - that's all that was shown.  It was part of a special
>shown during a fund-raising period on Maryland Public TV several years ago.

They showed TB saying 'f*ck' on Maryland Public TV?  I've seen Chicago's
WTTW not bleep the F word in certain circumstances, but I kinda doubt
this would be one of them. 

Thanks for the answer, by the way.

   Thanks awfully,
              Patrick
From: maujs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Companions (Part 1/3) was Re: Companions list
Keywords: needed,soon
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:58:38 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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In article <qVsVXB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
>
>Hold it!! Are you sure that it's Poly, or her doppleganger who was called
>Lopez?

	The doppelganger's surname was Lopez, it's christian name was
never given. The point is, however, that in the story the Chameleons
are out to steal peoples identities and names, so all the doubles were
given the same names,features etc. as the people they were copying
 - they wouldn't be stealing her identity if they changed it, would they?

>
>Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
> (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)

				Jonathan Morris
From: maujs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: What has he got in his pocketses?
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:53:11 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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In article <1993Jan22.210302.19716@husc3.harvard.edu> mastr@husc8.harvard.edu (claudia mastroianni) writes:

>Anyone know the exact title?
>
>Claudia

	'Origins of the Universe' by Oolon Colluphid is the name used
in the TV show. Presumably because of copyright in the novelisation
the book has a different title and author...
					...Jonathan Morris
From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Wanted: DW bloopers...
Date: 21 Jan 1993 11:57:37 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
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In article <1jjr0rINNdt1@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk> maujs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D Morris) writes:
>	Chase - Guest appearance of a BBC TV camera.

Also there is a cardboard cutout of a Dalek visible in the `haunted house',
but the Daleks hadn't yet arrived.

>	Galaxy Four - In the only surviving clip from this story,
>		Peter Purves cocks up his line...!

No he doesn't.  His character is just baffled by the reply to his question.

Sigh. I wish I would keep all my DW stuff in the same place.  I put away
my Doctor Who Files booklet that had summaries from the first half of
series three, but now I don't know where it is.  I can't remember the name
of the head Drahvin.  Ah well.  I'll just call her `Drahvin'...

Drahvin:  We come from Drahva, some four hundred dawns ago.  We were
          investigating this part of the galaxy, searching for a planet
          such as this capable of supporting life, so that we might
          colonise it.  There are too many of us on Drahva.

Steven:  All women?

Drahvin:  `Women'?

Steven:  (baffled)  Er, well...

Doctor:  Feminine -- female.

Drahvin:  Oh.  We have a small number of men -- as many as we need.
          The rest we kill; they consume valuable food and serve no
          particular function.

>	Warriors Of The Deep - Apparently you can see some
>		special effects bods standing about in one scene - I've
>		yet to spot it though...

Plus, you can see a production person run across the set.  The Silurian
costumes come apart, too, and white T-shirts can be seen through the
holes.

This story apparently fell more behind production schedule than any other.
I read that some takes were, as far as the actors knew, just full-dress
rehearsal.

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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: ersys is lag behind
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 05:27:35 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

SOS! This is something which I don't like to pull, but due to time...

Edmonton is 1 week behind in getting news.  Is there anyone out there who could
post to me the news from 17 Jan onwards?

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
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From: maujs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J D Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Companions (Part 1/3) was Re: Companions list
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:53:48 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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In article <1993Jan20.172406.655@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
>In article <1jj3v2INN64v@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio) writes:
>> 
>> In article <1993Jan18.193211.645@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
>>>> Sara Kingdom - played by Jean Marsh.
>>>> 	First appearance:  Episode 4, The Dalek Masterplan  4 Dec. 1965 (1)
>>>First appearance was in Episode 5.
>
>OK, accepted.  This was the hazy bit for me, but everything I've
>read and seen said that Katarina died at the end of episode 4, and I
>also seem to remember Sara not coming into the story until Katarina
>was already dead.  So how did it really happen?  Both people, I mean,
>
>Steven.K.Manfred

	A bit of confusion here, methinks. Katarina and Sara did both
appear in episode 4, but at no point were they together because:

	Episode 3 Cliffhanger: Katarina dies, ejected into space.
	Episode 4 Reprise: Last appearance of Katarina...?
	Episode 4 Cliffhanger: Bret Vyon is shot down by pursuing
			Sara Kingdom.
	Episode 5 Reprise: As above cliffhanger - but minus Bret!

	It all depends really on whether 'last appearances' includes
the reprise of the previous episode's trailer. So many people say
that Victoria's last story was 'Wheel In Space' that I suppose it
must, though it's a bit misleading.

						...Jonathan Morris
From: gregoryf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Greg Fink)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: dr who scripts
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 14:18:01 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

I was wondering if anyone is interested in script trading?  I have three 
doctor who scripts. (5 doctors(complete), highlanders one and four, and 
power of the daleks pt. one).  I would trade for photocopies of any other 
doctor who script.  Or any sci fi scripts.  Especially battlestar or 
logan's run.
anyone able to help?


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