HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: amanning@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning)
Subject: Re: Moving the WC94
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:07:17 GMT

In article <ku11hiINNh6@sal-sun133.usc.edu> mandelbu@sal-sun133.usc.edu (Santiago F. Mandelburger) writes:
>|> Have you ever heard of April Fools' Day?
>			  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>Is this the same as December 28's "Inocent-guy Day" (For Latin American)?
>
Sorry, it didn't occur to me that you were a foreigner (I am myself
actually!), and weren't familiar with the custom. 

The first of April is traditionally the day that students play jokes on
their teachers, and stuff like that. Our secretary tried to convince me that
my car headlights in the parking lot had been smashed in! 

It sounds like it may be the same thing as your "Innocent-guy Day"

Andrew M.

 

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: glenn@inmos.co.uk (Glenn Hill)
Subject: Re: Woking up, *HELP* also needed
Reply-To: glenn@inmos.co.uk (Glenn Hill)
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:06:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.180640.5330@vax.oxford.ac.uk>
kryst14@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Alex Ashcroft) writes:

> I saw this on the news, what I don't understand is why Staleybridge
> (well clear at the top of the HFS loans league) haven't also been
> promoted.  Is their ground not good enough?

Stalybridge are still not mathematically assured of promotion. Marine
could potentially still overtake them. This is why they have not yet
been declared promoted.
From: larsaa@ifi.uio.no (Lars Thore Aarhus)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Wanted: Norwegian soccer news
Date: 14 Apr 92 10:42:58 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
        GMT
To: erik@IASTATE.EDU (Erik Olsen)
Originator: larsaa@holmenkollen.ifi.uio.no

In article <1992Apr11.125202@IASTATE.EDU> erik@IASTATE.EDU (Erik Olsen) writes:

> 
> 
> 
> 
> I'm a student at Iowa State University desperately seeking for norwegian soccer
> news. I'm very interested in results from eliteserien and results from my
> favorite club Stromsgodset ( Norwegian champs 91). I'll be very happy if anybody
> could post some news.
> 
> 
> 		Erik Olsen
> 		HEIA GODSET --> RYKK OPP IGJEN !!

 I will post all the results from the Norwegian eliteserie and 
1. division as I did last season but since the play first starts
on April 26th you'll have to be patient two more weeks !

PS !By the way it's of course VIF which will be promoted and not SIF
    (just a misspelling I guess...):-)

lars...

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|  Department of Informatics                                    |
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From: jjook@sfu.ca (Jessica Jook)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: League Cup Final
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:56:24 GMT


        Can someone give a preview of the League Cup Final b/w Man.Utd
and Forst?    Pls post the possible line up of these two teams and
analyze the current situation and form of them.
       
 --Ray--   Man.Utd.  Way to Go!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: S.G.Walker@newcastle.ac.uk (Steve Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Irish Cup Semi-finals (4-4-92)
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:33:05 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

Results from the Semi-finals of the Bass Irish Cup :-

Friday night at Windsor Park, Belfast (Linfield)

  Ballymena United  1 : 3  Glenavon

Saturday afternoon at The Oval, Belfast (Glentoran)

  Crusaders         0 : 2  Linfield


No surprises really and probably the most interesting Cup Final, as it is
Linfield's best chance of getting into Europe, unless they overhaul the Ports
and finish second in the league, and Glenavon's only chance.  Both teams have
been overshadowed by their local rivals this season (Linfield by Glentoran and
Glenavon by Portadown) and will view the Cup as an opportunity to grab some
glory for themselves.

Steve



Steve Walker                          |
                                      |       Tough guys don't dance
University of Newcastle-upon-Tyne     |
England                               |                                 bye bye
From: beksic@qtp.ufl.edu (Dario Beksic)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Bravo Sampdoria
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:42:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: uflorida.35021

In article <1992Apr3.073937.54159@cc.usu.edu> fajack@cc.usu.edu writes:

	I am not a fan of Sampdoria.  But I cannot help to applause
them for defeating Red Star Belgrade.  It is a travesty to let Red
Star in the final again after what they did last year.
        I hope I am not too premature in celebrating the victory.
Afterall, there is still one game on hand.

Jack Teh

	I just can't resist to join the party. The triumph over the EVIL
(quoting Arturo, naturally), is more than a good enough reason.
	(A bunch of smileys to follow...)
						Dario
						("Hajduk" Split forever)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
Subject: Re: Pitch Widths
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy / Univ. of British Columbia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 17:59:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.123122.12962@cetia.fr> andy@cetia.fr writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.172939.18524@cs.ubc.ca>, gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson) writes:
>|> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>|> --
>|> 
>|> TRIVIA TIME:
>|> 
>|>    According to the "Supporters' Guide to Football League Clubs 1992", the
>|>    following pitches are the narrowest in the League:
>|> 
>|>    Halifax      70 yds
>|>    Ipswich      70 yds
>|>    Arsenal      71 yds
>|>    Chelsea      71 yds
>|>    Derby        71 yds
>|>    Stockport    71 yds
>|>    Wrexham      71 yds
>|>    4 teams in the GM Vauxhall Conference including Colchester (4th Div next
>|>    year?) also have 70 yard wide pitches).
>|> 
>
>I'd be interested to know the pitch width at the Dell where you have to climb
>into the terracing to take a corner.
>
>Andy.
>
>-- SOUTHAMPTON -- UP THE SAINTS -- COME ON YOU RED AND WHITE MAAACHIIIIINES --

   From the same guide ... the pitch size at the Dell is claimed to be
   110x72 yards.  Certainly narrow, but still a touch bigger than the 7 listed
   above.

   Brad

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From: halvard@trd.sdata.no (Halvard Halvorsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Manchester Utd - Manchester City 1-1
Date: 8 Apr 92 07:54:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: ugle.1992Apr8.075448.3422
Organization: Skrivervik Data A/S

subject says it all :-) ;-) still hope for Leeds !! (Giggs scored for United)

(Notts County - Tottenham 0-2, two goals by Gary L.)



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From: gjskelly@unix2.tcd.ie (garrett joseph skelly)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Manchester United for Championship 1992
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:07:18 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <kdobrien.702925248@unix2.tcd.ie> kdobrien@unix2.tcd.ie (kevin daniel o'brien) writes:

>It's just a shame that United couldn't hold on to a one goal when playing

>against ten men. Three cheers for Steve Bruce and take it away Leeds.

At least they'll be in Europe next season ( Tottenham Hotspur supporter


						Cheers,
							Garrett.
From: rxl@crosfield.co.uk (#richard lovelock)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: W.C. Shirts - Names
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:47:05 GMT
Reply-To: rxl@crosfield.co.uk (#richard lovelock)
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <1992Apr10.002034.1@mscf.med.upenn.edu> mills_j@mscf.med.upenn.edu writes:
>      You see this whole thread makes very little sense to me.  I mean, no
>one can tell me that all these whinging non-Americans can claim that
>having names on uniforms is a bad idea.  They just don't like the idea
>that it might start here in this football wasteland.  Nobody knows the
>name of every player just from the number on his kit.  Therefore, having
>names there would be helpful.  Oh, but then I'm forgetting, it would
>break from tradition, Heaven forbid.  And we certainly can't have that.
>Progress is far too American....
>-- 

 Names on shirts I can understand in games such as 'American' Football
 because the teams have so many players and they wear head gear which
 makes identification difficult. I dont think it is called for in 
 football.

 Question :  If names are to appear on shirts who will wear the shirt
             with the longest name ?


         ( I suggest Mickhailichenko of C.I.S. - I hope he's got broad
           shoulders - any longer names ? )

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From: mfiguero@lonestar.utsa.edu (Miguel . Figueroa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: PREDICTION 1994: WHO WILL WIN?
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:12:19 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio


                             SEMIFINALS
                           ==============
                      Argentina   vs.   Mexico

                        Germany    vs.    Italy


                                FINAL
                                =====
                        MEXICO     VS.     GERMANY




                               CHAMPION
                             ==============
                                MEXICO

 * This of course is just my prediction, so no complaints please!



  Miguel
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Graeme Souness
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:37:22 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <cgllgher.702744228@unix2.tcd.ie>, cgllgher@unix2.tcd.ie (cathal gallagher) writes:
> Bullshit Souness deserves all he gets ,that hacker thought he was god's
> gift to football.He betrayed Ranger's and was always arguing with
> refree's,even as a player.The reason for the operation was due
> to his flamboyant lifestyle known to all at Liverpool as "Champagne  
> Charlie" for his love of Don Pernon and caviar , which he ordered
> from all the hotels he stayed in.
> His child doesn't want to know him after the affair,face it he's 
> bisexual (Mark Walters came with him,he must have something else 
> instead of Football skill).It's a wonder he hasn't had an attack
> already after Liverpool's GREAT form and Grobelaar's GREAT 
> keeping (nice one at Sheffield Utd.).Imagine leaving him in the
> team ,maybe he is really mentally ill,and it's all a 
> cover up

I'm sure we dont need all this crap on r.s.s. At a time like this 
a little respect should be shown even if you dont like the guy. 
Perhaps in future you could post such articles to alt.chip.shoulder.

I hope your mailbox is full of abuse. You deserve it.

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University of Strathclyde          *  
Glasgow, Scotland                  * 
cbas38@uk.ac.strath.vaxa           *
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From: orhan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Orhan Mehmet Arsel)
Subject: Re: USA WORLD CUP AND english supremecy, (ha ha ha)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 06:10:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.192535.2585@oakhill.sps.mot.com> asim@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Asim Omair) writes:

>you want to talk about Liverpool, then look at their European record from the
>late '70s till '85 (when they were banned from Europe). I think that one of
>the main reasons that English team are not doing well in the European
>competitions is that there is a restriction on the number of foreign players
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>and hence some of the teams had to do without their regular players. Previously,
>there was no restriction on players from Scotland, Northern Ireland, Wales, but
>now these players are included in the foreign category and if you look at the
>Liverpool lineup you will see that they have a lot of players from the above
>countries. Similarly, Manchester United had to rest their goalkeeper (I cannot
>spell his name) because of this restriction.

I do not think that the restriction on the number of foreign players 
should be brought up as an excuse. Almost every national league in Europe
has similar restrictions (the number of foreign players allowed in many
countries is three, although there may be exceptions to this. Any comments
or confirmations are welcome...) After all, teams from Northern Irland,
Wales, and Scotland compete in the cups seperately and their national
teams take part in the tournaments (European Championship, World Cup)
seperately, thus it is only fair that their players are treated as
foreign players in England.

Sincerely,

Orhan
From: scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Football at the movies etc.
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:21:22 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <9204131458.AA07458@unix4> john7552@MACH1.WLU.CA (niall johnson) writes:
|A couple more tv things came to mind.........

Has anyone mention the Ripping Yarn "Golden Gordon" yet? Where Gordon
(good name eh?!) can name every player of every team in his clubs
history (or something like that - can't remember the rest). 
With Michael Palin being a Wednesday fan (I think), I once tried to
eminate Golden Gordon, but I can only go as far as the Clegg brothers
for the 1904 reserve team now.

Up the Owls

gordon (not so golden)
From: visconm@fog.CS.ORST.EDU (Marcello Visconti)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Copa Libertadores - Update
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:51:27 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.


	Copa Libertadores - Group 4 - Colombia/Peru
	-------------------------------------------

	Previous results (first team is home team):
	
		America Cali 2 - Nacional Medellin 0
		Sprting Cristal 1 - Sport Boys 1
		America Cali 2 - Sport Boys 0
		Nacional Med.2 - Sport Boys 2
		America Cali 1 - Sporting Cristal 0 
		Nacional Med.1 - Sporting Cristal 0 
		Nacional Med. 3 - America Cali 0
		Sport Boys 0 - Sporting Cristal 2 
		Sport Boys 1 - America Cali 2
		Sporting Cristal 3 - America Cali 1

	Tuesday April 7th:

		Sport Boys 0 - Nacional Med. 6

	Game left:

		Sporting Cristal - Nacional Med.

	Table
	-----

	Team		Pts	W  T  L  GF-GA
	--------------------------------------

	America  (COL)	8	4  0  2   8-7    * To second round
	Nacional (COL) 	7	3  1  1  12-4    * To second round
	Sp.Crist.(PER)  5	2  1  2   6-4    * To second round
	Sp.Boys  (PER)	2	0  2  4   4-15   * Eliminated


Bye,

Marcello.

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From: maura@pyra.co.uk (Maura Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Football at the movies etc.
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:08:51 GMT
Reply-To: maura@pyra.co.uk (Maura Clark)

In <HANS.92Mar31150325@ravn.iesd.auc.dk> hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel) writes:


>...and now over to something completely different:

>The other day I was trying to find out if there were any interesting
>works of fiction (films, plays, novels etc.) where football plays an
>essential part. Oodly enough, off the top of my head I could think of
>very few actual examples.

I can think of at least 4, but my memory of them is scant...

There was a few years back a brilliant TV play called (I think)

'Those Glory Glory Days' about a group of Spurs supporting schoolgirls
in the sixties. I believe it was based on a true story and the main
protagonist is now a football correspondent with a daily newspaper.
It even had a cameo appearance by the great Danny Blanchflower.
A most enjoyable play.

There was also one with Dennis Waterman and a Cup winning side way
back in the mists of time (may even have been the first FA Cup), 
but I can't remember much more.

And I'm sure there was an  Alan Bleasdale masterpiece, 
which featured my all-time hero Kenny Dalglish and a character
call Scully.

And another called (again I think) 'Scout', featuring the late great
Ray MacAnally who worked in Northern Ireland as a scout for
Manchester United.

Any others out there? Must be some from that centre of football
fanaticism Glasgow!

Maura.
From: scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: English Eufa Qualification
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:15:29 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College of Cardiff, Cardiff, Wales, UK
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

Does anyone *know* exactly what's happening with the EUFA qualification
in terms of League placings and the Rumbelows League Cup? I'm getting
confused!
I thought the League had decided that the runners up of the RL Cup would
go through if the winners had already qualified for Europe by other
means, but the Guardian now says it will be an extra league place.
Therefore how many league places are there now, 2 or 3? (How many were
there before consideration of the RL Cup?).

Up the Owls (wondering how much to worry about Arsenal catching us in
the League)

gordon
Xref: sparky rec.sport.soccer:5504 alt.binaries.pictures.misc:4632
From: scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Wednesday (was Re: Derby County??)
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:22:10 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <5398@hsi86.hsi.com> archer@hsi86.hsi.com.com (Garry Archer) writes:
|In article <22063.9204101205@thor.cf.ac.uk> scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker) writes:
|>|Ahem.......Wednesday was the original day the *cricket* team used to
|>|play on (who got bored in the winter and so formed a footy club.... etc
|>|etc)...... 
|
|Sorry, I didn't see the original reply.  Hope I haven't missed anything.
|
|They way I understand it (correct me if I'm wrong) but Wednesday (the day)
|is "Half Day Closing" in Sheffield (as is -- or used to be -- in many
|towns and cities in Britain) when all the shops close for the day at
|midday, or thereabouts, to make up for their time they put in on Saturdays.
|
|Henceforth, Wednesdays were free for many shopkeepers for the casual game 
|of footy.  Also the postal workers had Wednesday afternoons off and they
|played footy too.
|
|Or is it perhaps they *used to* play cricket on Wednesday afternoons and
|then began playing the new game being played in the schools and universities?
|
It appears to be just the cricketers who played originaly on a
Wednesday (whether they were postal workers or not I don't know!).
I don't think that the "new game being played in the schools and
universities" applies at all, because there were about a dozen clubs in
the region then anyway (with the world's oldest two Sheffield and Hallam
still playing now), although none of them joined the new "Football League"
when it was formed. (Anyway, there weren't too many universities then in
Britain were there??)

|Well, anyway, as you said, they probably played cricket in the summer
|and footy the rest of the year.

The cricket club folded in about 1913 I think.

|
|>Now, what about Abergavenny Thursdays.........???
|
|Or Milford Tuesday here in Connecticut!?!
|
The other one I know is Chelsea Monday ..........ok so its a Marillion
song, but its close! :-)

Up the Owls 

gordon
From: wsinjosc@wsinti05.info.win.tue.nl (Jos Coenen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: UEFA Rulings (was RE:USA WORLD CUP.....)
Date: 9 Apr 92 08:17:06 GMT
Reply-To: wsinjosc@info.win.tue.nl

In article <1992Apr8.133324.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
<stuff deleted>
> prices ? No way !!! However with freedom of movement within the EC, Rangers
> are looking at the situation closely and it is expected they will try to
> take legal action against the UEFA ruling. Celtic have a novel approach to
> the problem though -- try not qualify for Europe in the first place. Oops.
> Sorry Bhoys.....
> 
> ***************************************************************************
> Sandy Mackinnon                    * 
> University of Strathclyde          *  
> Glasgow, Scotland                  * 
> cbas38@uk.ac.strath.vaxa           *
> ***************************************************************************

There is a real problem with legal action against UEFA within EC context.
Firstly UEFA is located outside the EC, so one can probably only get
ruling on national FA's. The other problem is of course that the EC
does not only want freedom of movement, but it also wants to get
rid of the transfer system. And besides the Italian clubs (:-), probably no one
is interested unless there is a restriction on the number of foreign
(EC) players. 

Moreover, Glasgow Rangers already have a  bad record with UEFA (like eg
Milan, PSV, etc) because they were argueing for an european competition.
Upsetting UEFA more, will result in the usual unfair ruling when
eg a Rangers' player gets a red card (suspended for one year instead of
4 games etc).

Also, UEFA has (I'm not really sure about this) probably a rule that
says that members can not take legal action against UEFA ruling.
And this probably will hold also for clubs of its memebers.
So you might win a legal process, but then get kicked out of UEFA :-(

Jos
From: khoub-s@cs.Buffalo.EDU (Siamak Khoubyari)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Soccer on Univision
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:31:26 GMT
Reply-To: khoub-s@cs.buffalo.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: SUNY at Buffalo, Computer Science / CEDAR
Originator: khoub-s@megrez.cs.buffalo.edu


Hi all,

My local cable company doesn't carry Univision, hence this question:

Are the EST broadcast times the same for all the eastern cities that 
get the chanal, and if so, could someone who keeps track of the games
please post the broadcast times here, so I can have my friend who gets 
Univision tape the games for me. 

Thanks,

-- Siamak