HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens)
Subject: Re: Sierra fax codes (Q) 
Organization: COW Pastures
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:39:23 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

mwpoag@thurston.austin.ibm.com (Michael Wayne Poag) writes:
: I just bought a fax/modem that uses Sierra codes for fax...
: Does anyone have the specs for the fax commands ?
: Is anyone currently developing a fax package for linus ?
: I would prefer to not have to boot dos to send/recieve faxes.

	I am working on a port of NetFax 3.2.1 for Linux.  NetFax
allows postscript files to be queued for transmission, and it has
a daemon for incomming faxes.  It requires that your faxmodem is
Class 2 compliant.

	I should have a BETA version ready soon.

-- 
Charles Stephens
cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us
"And they say USENET is worthless..."  --Unknown
From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: 2 files with the same name in single directory, 0.99pl3, extfs
Date: 25 Jan 1993 08:09:08 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

root@rshark.mixcom.com (Brian Kapitan) writes:

>ig25@fg70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig) writes:

>>I just had a very strange thing happening to me while trying to get lpr
>>to work.  In my spool directory, I suddenly had two files called ".seq"
>>It was possible to remove them with a single rm - command.

>You think that's strange--- i've had two copies of a certain man page
>in cat1 forever....it's on a linux/minix file system. does any one know
>how to get rid of one without the other, and without possibly damaging
>the file system...cause obviously something is wrong....i was thinking of
>trying rm -i <file>....
>-- 
>"If you wait long enough, a car will come." -- anon
>Brian Kapitan, root@rshark.mixcom.com

This hasn't come up in a while, but it can happen. Linus posted a while
back that if you thrash the file system hard enough then multiple files
with the same names can be created like this. To get rid of them is easy
though.

If you just type rm <filename>, then the first one it finds will be deleted,
and the second one left alone. If you want to save the first one, just mv
it to a different name, since again it will be the first one found.

James
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: marc@r-node.pci.on.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Subject: serial speeds...
Organization: R-node Public Access Unix - 1 416 249 5366
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 02:36:09 GMT

Hi...

	Just a quick question...what is the max speed that
I can expect to get with Linux?  I have a Worldblazer that
I can lock the speed up to 115200 and would like to know
how much closer to  that I can get from 38400....or can I?

	Is there work being done to increase the limit...or
is it not possible?

Thanks...

Marc
-- 
Marc G. Fournier      | R-node Public Access Unix running Linux 0.99p1
Etobicoke, Ontario    | 416-249-5366   24hrs 7 days/week   network email
voice: 249-4230       | shell accounts available  2500+ newsgroups  FREE
marc@r-node.pci.on.ca | Telebit WorldBlazer/SupraModem2400/Cardinal 2400 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: btenison@eng.auburn.edu (Bruce Tenison)
Subject: Serial I/O in 99pl3-4
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:44:27 GMT

Is anyone haveing trouble with the new serial driver (3.8) in 99pl3-4??
Everything worked fine up to and including 99pl2, but now, everything
seems to work EXCEPT the serial lines.  I have ttys0 set to my mouse
and ttys1 to the modem.  Kermit responds that it gets an I/O error
and the mouse test util that comes with the Xfree responds that it 
cannot open the mouse.  BTW, I have a Packard Bell 386x with on-board
serial ports (in case this helps).

Thanks!
Bruce
btenison@eng.auburn.edu


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Bad blocks (?) on hard disk
Organization: Linux
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:39:11 GMT

In article <C1I2KG.2Lu@ichaos.nullnet.fi> jlaiho@ichaos.nullnet.fi (Juha Laiho) writes:
>rob@dinner.asrc.albany.edu (Robert D. Seals) writes:
>Hey, isn't it time to add mention of the mkfs -c to the FAQ?

Done. And I finished quite a few changes to the FAQ just now, including
info on gcc, shared libraries, upgrading the kernel, TCP/IP installation,
and more. I just hope that Corsini will put all of them in. :)

mdw
-- 
Matt Welsh, mdw@tc.cornell.edu 
  "Donuts. Is there anything they can't do?"
From: strobel@iam.unibe.ch (Stefan Strobel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: PostGres? (was Re: INGRES BROKEN BY 0.
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:57:55 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Berne, Switzerland
Distribution: world
Reply-To: strobel@iam.unibe.ch
NNTP-Posting-Host: sun1.rz.fh-heilbronn.de

- Postgres on Linux : 

try downloading from the Berkeley Postgres server (128.32.149.1)
I'm also interested in a Linux - version of Postgres, so please keep me 
informed of your success 

Stefan


Newsgroups: comp.os.mach,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: jdoyle@phy.umassd.edu (Jim Doyle)
Subject: Re: SLIP under Mach 3.0
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:19:10 GMT

In <1japc9INNh14@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ralf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ralph Valentino) writes:

>Has anyone gotten SLIP to work under Mach 3.0?  /etc/slattach from
>2.6MSD reports "ioctl(TIOCSETD): No such device" when run under 3.0
>mk77 ux37.

	It sounds like your Unix server is not properly configured for
SLIP. TIOCSETD is the ioctl argument that you use to change the line
discipline on a tty. My guess is that when slattach opens the tty
line and tries to set SLPDISC the kernel cant find that discipline
descriptor in its switch table. 

	We have problems here with MK78/UX39 SLIP - I have been meaning
to port in CSLIP v2.6 to it but just have been too tired / too busy to
get to it. It should be a pretty easy thing. If you wanna try to beat me
to the punch you can get it from ftp.ee.lbl.gov  - use the BSD4.3
installation as a guide. You basically gotta add some things to 
tty_conf.c to make it jive.

--
Jim Doyle
Univ. of Massachusetts - Dept. of Computer Science
doyle@cs.umass.edu
From: digdon@ug.cs.dal.ca (Mike Digdon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Re: MACH Documentation
Date: 27 Jan 93 01:04:14 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <C1Fw1q.49x@ulowell.ulowell.edu> bsalman@cs.ulowell.edu (Basith Salman) writes:
>Hi,
>   Where can I get a documentation which gives the basic implementation of the
>   MACH in general and the MACH scheduler implementation in specific?
>   Is it availbale on line?
>
>   If anybody has this info. please send it to me at bsalman@cs.ulowell.edu
>   Thanks in advance.
> 
>  -Basith     
>   
>
>

I am doing a research project on Mach, and since I have only heard of it,
any info for the above would be nice for me as well..
-- 
	     Mike Digdon - Vice Prez DSCSS - Dalhousie University
		     digdon@ug.cs.dal.ca  -- Halifax, NS
		 - Real programmers never work nine to five -
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: sampath@fnma.com
Subject: Anonymous ftp to mach.cs.cmu.edu
Reply-To: sampath@fnma.com
Cc: sampath@fnma.com
Organization: Fannie Mae, Washington, DC
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:29:01 GMT

Hi,

I am unable to access 

       /afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/mach/public/doc/mach3/kernel_principles.ps

from mach.cs.cmu.edu. What happened to it? If you have a soft copy, please
email it to me. Thanks for your time. 


-- 
In-Real-Life: Sam Sampath, UTS, Fannie Mae (+1 202 752 7084) 
Washington, D.C.        Domain: sampath@fnma.com
From: honey@citi.umich.edu (Peter Honeyman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Re: Anonymous ftp to mach.cs.cmu.edu
Date: 26 Jan 1993 02:15:24 GMT
Organization: Center for Information Technology Integration, Univ of Michigan
Distribution: world
Reply-To: honey@citi.umich.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: hone.citi.umich.edu

sampath@fnma.com writes:
|> I am unable to access 
|> 
|>        /afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/mach/public/doc/mach3/kernel_principles.ps

try /afs/cs.cmu.edu/project/mach/public/doc/osf/kernel_principles.ps

	peter
From: km@ky3b.pgh.pa.us (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: X11R5 binaries for Mach
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:32:51 GMT
Organization: KY3B - Vax Pittsburgh, PA

Thanks to the several people who pointed me to the binaries at ftp.cs.uwm.edu.

-km
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: bsalman@cs.ulowell.edu (Basith Salman)
Subject: MACH Documentation
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:25:01 GMT

Hi,
   Where can I get a documentation which gives the basic implementation of the
   MACH in general and the MACH scheduler implementation in specific?
   Is it availbale on line?

   If anybody has this info. please send it to me at bsalman@cs.ulowell.edu
   Thanks in advance.
 
  -Basith     
   


Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: marsh@MITL.COM (Brian Marsh)
Subject: Call for Papers: WWOS-IV
Originator: marsh@wasabi
Organization: Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory, Princeton, NJ
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:31:42 GMT


			   CALL FOR PAPERS
      Fourth Workshop on Workstation Operating Systems (WWOS-IV)
			   Napa, California
			 October 14-15, 1993

The Fourth Workshop on Workstation Operating Systems will bring
together researchers in operating systems for a range of
computing environments, including workstations, notebooks,
and palmtop computers.  The purpose of WWOS-IV is to examine
controversial issues in operating systems for these platforms.

In contrast to previous years, we request submissions of papers that
describe ongoing or completed research, as well as position papers
that propose new directions, advocate non-traditional approaches, or
generate controversy and discussion.

As well as traditional topics, this year's workshop will pay special
attention to issues relevant to the next generation of 
personal computing, including:

	- models and implementations for ubiquitous computing	
	- mostly connected/disconnected computing
	- protocols for low-bandwidth networking
	- scalable display and window management
	- real-time and multimedia
	- system requirements for virtual reality platforms
	- global, widely accessible, storage systems	
	- OS support for small-scale embedded systems

To assure a productive workshop, attendance will be limited to 60
participants active in the field.  Each potential participant should
submit 5 copies of a 1--5 page summary paper that makes clear its
contribution to the workshop.  Submissions should be mailed to the
program chair. For registration information, contact the general
chair.

IMPORTANT DATES
	Submission deadline: 		May 31, 1993
	Notification of acceptance: 	July 30, 1993

Program chair	Brian Bershad	
		Carnegie Mellon University
		School of Computer Science
	     	Carnegie Mellon University
               	5000 Forbes Avenue
               	Pittsburgh, PA,  15213-3891 USA
                (Brian.Bershad@CS.CMU.EDU)

General chair	Fred Douglis
		Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory
	       	182 Nassau Street, Third Floor
	       	Princeton, NJ,  08542-7072
             	609 497-460, 609 497-4013 (fax)
               	(douglis@mitl.com)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Program committee
		John Carter	University of Utah
	       	David Cheriton	Stanford University
	       	Dave Cutler	Microsoft
	       	Frans Kaashoek	Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	       	Brian Marsh	Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory
	       	Mike Schwartz	University of Colorado at Boulder
	       	Margo Seltzer	Harvard
	       	Mark Weiser	Xerox PARC
-- 
Brian Marsh
Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory  | Email: marsh@mitl.com
182 Nassau Street			      | Phone: +1 609 497-4600
Princeton, NJ  08542 USA		      | Fax:   +1 609 497-4013
From: muppidi@cs.tamu.edu (Shridhar R Muppidi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Help on Mach 3.0 Installation
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:15:45 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: neuron.tamu.edu

I have a sun 4/75 sparc 2 running SunOS Release 4.1.2 and would like 
to install Mach 3.0. I have got all the source files from CMU
(anonymous ftp) and would sure appreciate if you somebody could
help me in building the kernel and installation.

I did get the build and setup files from the same site but they
are too advanced for me and I guess could be built on a system 
already running Mach. 

I am novice in Mach OS and would really appreciate if anybody could
help me out.

Thanks 

-Shridhar
(muppidi@cs.tamu.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: wmagro@uiuc.edu (William Magro)
Subject: Re: The end of the MC680X0 UNIX era?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:37:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.163535.7443@rdg.dec.com> uli@cats.enet.dec.com (Uli  
Wendl) writes:
>
>I can't comment on other m68k systems,
>but, perhaps I only missed the first few postings?
>Again: No offence, please!

Unix system V release 4 is available for the Atari TT workstation.  Again,  
like other unpopular products, it is grossly overpriced.  Perhaps AT&T  
(USL) is responsible for this.
--
William Magro                                       NeXTMail welcome
wmagro@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: cmaeda+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Maeda)
Subject: free toy udp server
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:53:45 GMT


The udp server for Mach 3.0 that I wrote a couple years ago is
available on the Mach ftp archive.

mach.cs.cmu.edu:/src/udp_server.tar.Z

It's a toy and you will probably have to mess around with it to get it
to work.

Share and enjoy.
-- 
Chris Maeda, Grad Student and RetroGrouch <cmaeda@cs.cmu.edu>
"A unix signature isn't a return address, it's the ASCII equivalent of
a black velvet clown painting. It's a rectangle of carets surrounding
a quote from a literary giant of weeniedom like Heinlein or Dr. Who."
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: uhlig@eecs.umich.edu (richard uhlig)
Subject: Re: Page tables in Mach
Organization: U of M
Distribution: comp.os.mach
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:05:51 GMT


>   How are the page tables organized in Mach 2.6?  Are there any studies of TLB
>   miss rates at the different levels of the page table?  How much does a TLB
>   miss at each level cost?
>   Thanks.
>       Amer
>   --
>   ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   Amer Diwan					School of Computer Science
>   Fox Project					5000 Forbes Avenue
>   adiwan@cs.cmu.edu				Carnegie Mellon University
>   (412) 268-3066                                  Pittsburgh, PA 15213
>

We have written a couple of papers on this subject.  The papers compare
page table structure of Mach 3.0, OSF/1 and Ultrix and measure (through
hardware monitoring) the cost to handle different types of TLB misses.
The experiments were run on a DECstation 3100 with a MIPS R2000
processor that requires software management of TLB misses.

Some of our findings include:

o The cost to handle different types of misses varies dramatically.
  A miss on a level 1 user PTE can be handled in only about 20 cycles,
  but level 2 PTEs misses take over 300 cycles to service.

o Systems like Mach 3.0 stress the TLB much more than monolithic-kernel
  operating systems.  A system that is more "decomposed" into separate
  user-level services tends to see large increases in the very costly
  level 2 PTE misses.  The difference can add seconds to the run time...

Details can be found in:

	ftp ftp.eecs.umich.edu
	cd pub/os_arch/

-----------------------------------------
Rich Uhlig (uhlig@eecs.umich.edu)
U of M Advanced Computer Architecture Lab
From: dswartz@redondo.sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: MacMach
Date: 22 Jan 1993 02:39:07 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: redondo.sw.stratus.com


Well, I guess it's time for the bimonthly WhatIsTheStatusOfMacMach
posting.  Any dope?

-- 

#include <std_disclaimer.h>

Dan S.
From: 00bwanderson@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Freeware compilers for MachTen?
Date: 25 Jan 93 05:32:01 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

Hey, all...
A friend of mine recently got MachTen, and we were wondering if any free
compilers were to be had (gcc, cc, etc...) instead of the MachTen developer's
kit.  

As an aside, would we be able to to get zmodem, elm, emacs (jove, really), and
some other stuff via ftp?  If so, where?  We like what we see so far, but it's
not really complete without stuff like elm and less...8^)  Thanks very much!


Bruce
-- 
.sig?  We don' need no steenkin' .sig!

Bruce Anderson: A tradition of Chaos and Disorder since 1967
spock@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (unix)	00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp (VAX)
Don't look at me in that tone of voice!  BSU disclaims me, and I disclaim them.
From: adiwan@quick.fox.cs.cmu.edu (Amer Diwan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
Subject: Page tables in Mach
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:09:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: QUICK.ADIWAN.93Jan22140924
Reply-To: adiwan@cs.cmu.edu
Distribution: comp.os.mach
Organization: School of Computer Science, CMU

How are the page tables organized in Mach 2.6?  Are there any studies of TLB
miss rates at the different levels of the page table?  How much does a TLB
miss at each level cost?
Thanks.
    Amer
--
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Amer Diwan					School of Computer Science
Fox Project					5000 Forbes Avenue
adiwan@cs.cmu.edu				Carnegie Mellon University
(412) 268-3066                                  Pittsburgh, PA 15213
Newsgroups: comp.os.mach
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Subject: Re: Freeware compilers for MachTen?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:17:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.003201.14014@bsu-ucs> 00bwanderson@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:

>A friend of mine recently got MachTen, and we were wondering if any free
>compilers were to be had (gcc, cc, etc...) instead of the MachTen developer's
>kit.  

The "MachTen Developer's kit" *is* gcc, plus a set of proprietary 
includes, libraries, etc. that is shipped only to people who buy 
the developer's kit.  Under the GNU GPL, someone who bought the 
developer's kit should have the right to make and redistribute 
copies of the gcc binaries, but they would not be of much use 
unless someone invests the time and effort required to recreate
workable free replacements for the Tenon-proprietary interfaces 
and libraries.  

Given that such a person would first have to pay for the Tenon
developer's kit, then do alot of work, and that the target 
platform is an Apple Macintosh running Mach _on top of_ MacOS,
well, I'd say the likelihood of a totally free development 
system for MachTen is small.

When I asked about this once before I was assured that Tenon
had complied with the GPL in its distribution of gcc.  Even if
that is the case, I can't imagine buying into a unix system
that withholds interfaces and libraries from "ordinary" users,
even when compilers and other development tools are "unbundled".
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
From: marsh@MITL.COM (Brian Marsh)
Subject: Call for Papers: WWOS-IV
Originator: marsh@wasabi
Organization: Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory, Princeton, NJ
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:32:32 GMT


			   CALL FOR PAPERS
      Fourth Workshop on Workstation Operating Systems (WWOS-IV)
			   Napa, California
			 October 14-15, 1993

The Fourth Workshop on Workstation Operating Systems will bring
together researchers in operating systems for a range of
computing environments, including workstations, notebooks,
and palmtop computers.  The purpose of WWOS-IV is to examine
controversial issues in operating systems for these platforms.

In contrast to previous years, we request submissions of papers that
describe ongoing or completed research, as well as position papers
that propose new directions, advocate non-traditional approaches, or
generate controversy and discussion.

As well as traditional topics, this year's workshop will pay special
attention to issues relevant to the next generation of 
personal computing, including:

	- models and implementations for ubiquitous computing	
	- mostly connected/disconnected computing
	- protocols for low-bandwidth networking
	- scalable display and window management
	- real-time and multimedia
	- system requirements for virtual reality platforms
	- global, widely accessible, storage systems	
	- OS support for small-scale embedded systems

To assure a productive workshop, attendance will be limited to 60
participants active in the field.  Each potential participant should
submit 5 copies of a 1--5 page summary paper that makes clear its
contribution to the workshop.  Submissions should be mailed to the
program chair. For registration information, contact the general
chair.

IMPORTANT DATES
	Submission deadline: 		May 31, 1993
	Notification of acceptance: 	July 30, 1993

Program chair	Brian Bershad	
		Carnegie Mellon University
		School of Computer Science
	     	Carnegie Mellon University
               	5000 Forbes Avenue
               	Pittsburgh, PA,  15213-3891 USA
                (Brian.Bershad@CS.CMU.EDU)

General chair	Fred Douglis
		Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory
	       	182 Nassau Street, Third Floor
	       	Princeton, NJ,  08542-7072
             	609 497-460, 609 497-4013 (fax)
               	(douglis@mitl.com)
-----------------------------------------------------------
Program committee
		John Carter	University of Utah
	       	David Cheriton	Stanford University
	       	Dave Cutler	Microsoft
	       	Frans Kaashoek	Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	       	Brian Marsh	Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory
	       	Mike Schwartz	University of Colorado at Boulder
	       	Margo Seltzer	Harvard
	       	Mark Weiser	Xerox PARC
-- 
Brian Marsh
Matsushita Information Technology Laboratory  | Email: marsh@mitl.com
182 Nassau Street			      | Phone: +1 609 497-4600
Princeton, NJ  08542 USA		      | Fax:   +1 609 497-4013
From: C.D.Turner@newcastle.ac.uk (Chris Turner)
Newsgroups: comp.object
Subject: Re: Testing - Tech Report
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:35:53 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I have also posted a pure text version in the same place.

A number of people seem to be having problems printing it out, possibly
because of the diagrams, or its size. I will split the postscript into
a number of separate sections hopefully later on this week and will
release details here for those interested.

Thanks for your patience.

Chris Turner

Department of Computer Science, University of Durham, DH1 3LE England
Tel. +44 91 374 3657 FAX +44 374 3741 E-Mail C.D.Turner@durham.ac.uk