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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 23:34:09 EDT
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Comments:     Originally-From: Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
From:         GUBERT@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      RE: the state of slowness

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
>
> > We have not so much a blotto bandwidth pig as a 2 X 4 bandwidth pig.
>
> Excuse my ignorance--Le Pig at 2 X 4?
                             ~~~~~~~~~~

 No, no, no. For this to make sense the preposition has to be right.
What is a 2 X 4?  Screen down.










 A 2 X 4 is a board.  So Anne is a bored (board) bandwidth pig.

Weak I know, but what the heck, it's a slow night.
Doris
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a 2x4 is probably more aptly termed a 'stud'; now, a 1x12,
that's a board.


JAG
<I know, --abh will think i have my gender facts wrong again>.
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:53:21 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Doublings
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>Weirdness comes in twos.

Pray you're wrong, else I am in for one *hell* of a week.

-abh
....and major airline crashes come in threes

don't mind me I'm rambling and making self-referential postings that only mean
anything to 0.2% of the list anyway
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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Rolled trousers and peaches 
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:55:18 +0000


In article <199208182004.AA06239@eff.org> rita@EFF.ORG writes:

>        Why, thank you from the bottom of my sugar-coated heart, Mka.

Or vice-versa.
From: gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL (Graham Toal)
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Subject: Re: 1/0
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:09:06 GMT
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> the same as the 0 in 1O.

Very drole.  Another bloody typist.
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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Baby's first word
              13 Aug 1992 03:22:35 GMT from <jthomas@WELL.SF.CA.US>

> >     <<Life is like a chicken-coop ladder: short and shitty.>>>
>
> >     "Das Leben ist wie eine Huehnerleiter: kurz und beschissen."
>
>I'm certain that, in the interests of propriety, the above post was a
>typo, and the author meant "beschmissen."
>
>Jim (Some people, like life, are nasty, brutish and short) Thomas

    No, Jim, I intended the strong form "beschissen."  I took
    into account the community standards of this list.

    --tom hobbes
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Subject: Re: The sole of a new machine
Reply-To: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 04:22:21 GMT


In a previous article, maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU ("Natalie Maynor") says:

>> 	To quote Marcy, you're weird, sir.  You can keep vi, for preference
>> in a nice deep hole some place in New Mexico.:-)If the arrow keys don't
>> work, I don't use it.....<ecch>  Too much DECVAX in my blood....
>
>The arrow keys work fine on vi.
But nothing else does.:-)  You can still keep it.  Actually, the version my
old UHahahaha account had access to didn't like arrow keys one little bit.
It must have been a different version....  

>> How much memory do they give you down there?  Besides not enough?
>The automatic allotment is 15 meg.  (Did I use the right abbreviation
>there?)  It's possible to get more space if you need it.
I wish....  Meg is an appropriate abbreviation, assuming you mean either
Margaret or megabyte.  At this point I'd assume you're more in the market for
a gigger [gigabyte]......  Or maybe a Giggles?  Where is he tonight, anyway?


-- 
It's Ruth the NetHead, back from the [virtual] dead
	- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
fighting for truth, justice and static-free lines
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      RE: The Evidence
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>my mother is a member of this list

Oh, thuper. Nancy, how many you got, woman?

-abh
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 01:19:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      WHTMIQR7
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What Happened To Me In Quintana Roo 7:
---------------------------------------
27) Return exhausted and hot and hungry to our Palace after
trip to the KMart to cool off and buy a new supply of Mexican
Doritos and other assorted known and unknown chips and bananas and
canned cokes (to avoid using the Servicart in the room, which they
did not unlock for two days--it *is* Mexico--thus losing two days
of revenue) ...  Evening of recuperating from the trip to
Women's Island, as the tour guide kept calling it....  Cortes loved
Isla Mujeres, as did other conquistadores, and called it Isla
Mujeres because the  women there *refused* to bare their breasts.
Which prompted the Spaniards to immediately begin turning the local
offspring into mestizos in no time..... Munched chips all evening
and took turns reading Chinese novels and frolicking in the water,
each to his own, alone....
28) Tuesday caught tour bus for Tulum and Xel-Ha....  two hour ride
through real *jungle* that reminds -ggs of the shinnery, except more
tropical and full of monkeys and jaguars and crocodiles and snakes
and not a sign of human life.  Lovely Mayan ruins perched on a cliff
overlooking the *most* beautiful beach in the world.  Water is
pale emerald, then turquoise, then blue and so clear you can see the
ocean floor for 200 yards out from the shore.  Surf as white as
snow.  heat is unbearable, and tourists spend most of their time
huddled under the few trees or sitting on the fertility stools inside
the little mayan buildings.  Tourguide, named Xochil, elegant Mexican
woman descended from some sort of Indian descended in turn from the
Aztecs, gives commentary in the most beautiful Spanish I have heard
anywhere and then in the most painful English ggs ever heard......
tc keeps asking what did she say what did she say?
29) Xel-Ha is a logoon inlet from ocean, calm still waters full of
tropical fish that swim next to <one> and nibble on <one's> toes
of whatever happens to be dangling around....  Pure-D fun and even
tc dons her bathing suit (inwhich she looks gorgeous and says she
looks awful) and ggs and tc have fun snuggling and smooching in the
cool water with the angel fish and the tiger fishies and the lurking
crocodiles which never show their snout.....   So easy to swim in
salt water.  <One> does not sink.....
30) Back on the airconditioned bus for the ride back to the Palace
(<wink wink>)
---------------------------
--ggs (more directly....the system does not destroy while it lives)
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:36:14 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Free Press strikes again...
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On Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:50:00 EST, CROSEN@BGSUOPIE.BITNET wrote:
> US citizens about things the mainstream press doesn't cover:  Z, The
> Nation, The Progressive, and so forth.

To which add The Utne Reader.  (Yes, it's on sale over here in
your average corner-shop newsagents...)

But I *do* recommend Private Eye for the real low down on political
scandal.  It takes a few months of reading it to adjust to their
style and understand their oblique references though.

There's also a rather unpleasant right-wing anti-semitic magazine
called Spotlight which occassionally stumbles across interesting
stories.  I wouldn't recommend buying it but some of it's more
relevant articles are sometimes posted on misc.activism.progressive.
They tend to concentrate on conspiracies, and military stuff like
POWs alleged to be still in Vietnam (or moved to Cambodia nowadays),
or CIA misuse of military resources to smuggle drugs to pay for
Contras.  It's hard to work out their allegances.  The sound a bit
like LaRouchies to me.

G
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:27:49 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Geekefaction
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              Gail Lester <gaill@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>
              19 Aug 1992 10:11:00 EST from
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On Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:11:00 EST Entropy Warrior said:
>Hey--the bimbos had their time on the list.  A female geek is
>probably a librarian.

Wait a fucking minute......whether everyone knows it or not, the libraries
of the world are NOT filled with geeks or prudes or other assorted nerds
or neredettes.  Yeah, there are a few....just like in any profession....
but they are no more male/female geeks than all interior decorators are
gay or anything like that.  Also, it is widely reported that SOME
accountants do NOT wear green eyeshades....and that one or two computer
programmers do NOT entirely subsist on a diet of Twinkies and Cokes.

dan   (and if you wanna know about porn novels featuring librarians, just ask)

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* Associate University Librarian      Internet: alileste@idbsu.idbsu.edu    *
* Boise State University                                                    *
* Boise, Idaho  83725                 BSU and I have a deal: I don't speak  *
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:20:28 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Next Year's Event
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Natalie, I'm surprised you haven't pressed more vigorously for resolution
of the 1993 Words-L Convocation issue.  You said you needed to know very
soon so you could fit it into your work schedule for next year.  Here's
a list from memory of suggested sites -- surely not comprehensive, just
what I remember:

SITE                          LOCAL ARRANGEMENTS
_____                        _____________________

Los Angeles                    Emily *
Starkville                     Natalie, of course
Stockholm                      Torkel              If this is the final
Ireland                        Bill Sjostrom        choice, I would be
Tulsa                          Evelyn               happy to station myself
Asheville/Boone/               Gilbert              in Memphis for a few days
  Cullowhee                                         and introduce visitors
Tokyo                          Akio                 to that city's midsummer
San Antonio                    TENET                charms before ferrying
                                                    them to Oktibbeha Co.
                                                          --brad
         *Hmmmm, three great Amtrak trains
          serve LA -- the Desert Wind, Sunset
          Limited, and Southwest Chief....
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:39:04 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: KA9Q? (was Re: The D-words)
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On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 05:53:30 CDT, "List Goddess" <maynor@ra.msstate.edu> wrote:
> I've never heard of it but am interested.  Btw, I'm not sure whether I'm
> using NCSA telnet or CUTCP(?).  It *says* NCSA all over it, but two people
> from our Computing Center yesterday said that our department's lab software
> is CUTCP rather than NCSA (even though it says NCSA all over it).  It's

Clarkson did a lot of hacks to NCSA and most people now prefer their
version.

> the same software I have at home -- copied legally since it's freeware.
> I find this confusing, to say the least.  If it's not NCSA, why does it
> say it's NCSA?  These Computing Center people, however, certainly know

Because most of it is.

> more than I do about it.  I don't trust them quite as much as I trust
> Frank, but they're up there pretty high on my list of Impressive People.

Ask them both about KA9Q... the difference is that your DOS machine
become a *host* as well as a client.  You can leave it running when
you go into work and fetch files from your home machine to ra, for
instance.  (Assuming local free phone calls of course - we don't have
that luxury, so I've fiddled a really dirty hack that allows me to
phone a certain number, hang up, and have my office machine phone out :-) )

I think the NCSA stuff you're running uses SLIP.  ka9q can do that
too so there wouldn't be much to change at the university end, though
the alternative to slip (ppp) is apparently somewhat better.

Oh - I forgot the big plus that ka9q has over ncsa - it can read news
directly from an NNTP news server.  That's why I got it of course...

G
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:14:41 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Dictionaries
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The list of internet goodies is in docs/words-L/Net-Stuff.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From: maya@carina.unm.edu ()
Subject: Re: Gender
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 23:35:52 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <0095F2F9.292A3C20.17392@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU> aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU (Bandwidth Pig) writes:
>
>What is it about men who identify themselves as feminist that makes me want to
><puke>?
>
>Alan Alda
>Dustin Hoffman
>Phil Donahue
>...and so on.

	I wouldn't know, and I'm a bit taken aback by the hostility of the
question.  Do you prefer strong independent men like Andrew Dice Clay? 
Better my (hypothetical) son grow up to be Phil Donahue
than a new Pat Buchanan.
  
>In the nicest way possible,
>-abh

-maya (whose idea of a positive male role model includes Nick Charles,
	who would not watch the Phil Donahue show if you paid me and
	who thought _Tootsie_ was a sickening sexist movie, saved 
	by the radiant presence of Bill Murray.) 
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:20:24 EDT
From:         Elaine M Brennan <ELAINE%BROWNVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      ADBAM and baby update

Diffily baby boy arrived via Caesarian at 7:45 this morning.

Both are reported to be in good condition.

Elaine
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:10:00 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK%IUBACS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      List Wars, The Saga

>Um, not this one, Jenna.  Who is the guy?  And what makes so
>many of our friends here in Words-Land at Brownvm so chummy with him?
>Most importantly, how do you suggest getting even with him?
>You can tell *me*, honest.  <endearing, innocent grin>  <big eyes>

Well, *I* am about to light into the SOB.  He has decided to go
private with his appalling drivel.  I don't need help, but am
inviting everyone to the roast.  The last post:

From:   PO1::"PH408014@BROWNVM.brown.edu" "Tim Johnson"
To:     Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@ucs.indiana.edu>
CC:
Subj:   RE: handles


>You don't have to be a physicist to fight against entropy--the
>last tragic enterprise available to all.  As for affectations--
>you *are* a brownie.

  Ah, thanks.  I suspected as much.

  And, no, I am not one of the brownies - a term
which, at least in the circles I travel, is associated
with the undergraduates here; and a term which I
would never apply to myself.  Perhaps I misunderstand
your use of affectation, though.  I don't have the
benefits of the Word-l list to develop my own vocabulary.

Great balls o'fire
-Mka
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:05:15 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Self-correcting (why not try proofing?)
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

>    From the description you gave I just assumed they were antiques....of
> course not QUITE as old as me....Does anyone even SELL CGA any more?
> I spose to those who don't know any better....to those who are thankful
> to have a crummy old beater of a machine....and arent' well-off net-goddesses.

I meant why would anybody want CGA color as opposed to CGA monocrhome.
My old CGA monochrome monitor wasn't bad at all.  Yet some people paid
more money for color that caused the whole screen to look like fuzz.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:11:57 CDT
From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
Subject:      Geekazoids
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>2)  the Ideal Form "Geek" is male; the Ideal From "Geequette" is
>    female.

"Geequette" is a diminutive form of Geek and I therefore reject it.

-abh
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: The D-words
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:56:48 GMT

Natalie thinks the d* is the *<easy>* part?!   I wish she'd been around to
tell me how to manage that -- I slogged through that !@#@$%^&* by sheer
force and brute will power, gained twenty pounds because I just sat there
eating choclate chip cookies, sent my kids out of town for the summer and
wouldn't let my husband <speak> to me unless I'd finished a chapter.  

I do know of three people who've read it, though: one even asked me to
autograph it!  And my advisor, known throughout the field as a picky damn
autocrat, accepted it without revision.  

(Pardon my bragging, but I've so little academic accomplishment that when I
get a chance... it's been six years, and I'm about to sell my brain for
scrap.) 

--bayla
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 08:00:03 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      we made it!
Comments: To: Diet List <diet@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu>,
              All fellow wordslers <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>,
              Gail Lester <gaill@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>

one year ago today (less about three hours, actually) dan and gail
decided to quit living in sin and make it all legal and proper.  Well, we
DECIDED several months before that....but we made it legal a year ago.

And we are STILL together....of course that could be because we haven't
been to Cancun [note to DIET folks....only WORDS-Lers will understand
that].  And it COULD be because we are eating properly [vice versa, here].

dan
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:55:26 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Comments on this phrase
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On Thu, 20 Aug 1992 06:21:53 PDT, "s mandell" <pwiebe@ecst.csuchico.edu> wrote:
> I was wondering about the phrase "...and that's a whole nother story".
> That's certainly how I would say it, but nother isn't in the dictionary,
> and 'nother for another doesn't fit.
> What's going on here?

It's a joke about the formation of 'another' - an + other <= a + nother.

Many words *were* derived in this way (we've covered a lot of them here
before - napple, napron etc) - I'm not sure if nother is one of them,
because if it is, the joke falls flat...

G
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:30:20 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Geekefaction

>Wait a fucking minute......whether everyone knows it or not, the libraries
>of the world are NOT filled with geeks or prudes or other assorted nerds
>or neredettes.  Yeah, there are a few....just like in any profession....

Yeah, Dan.  I knew the Geek Squad would check in on that post.
It's a fine art--that I haven't mastered--to write a post that
offends no one.  Not possible on this list, actually, since Le
Pig wakes up offended.

From the personals:
"Greek Geek seeks sneak peek."

-Mka
Riding out an entropy storm
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Date:         Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:48:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Old machines
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>  Speaking of old machines - where is giggles?
> Doris

Well, I *would* say something sweet such as "here I am sis darling"
but I am rendered <speechless> by this comment, which, if it were
not so screamingly funny, would be a real heartbreaker.  I have
been a)charging the battery to my tc/sw's 74 Cadillac Eldorado
to move it to the front driveway, and b)chargin the battery to my
'74 VW bus to move it to the alley behind the house, after using
it to push the '74 Porsche 914 up a little in the front driveway,
and c) charging the battery in the '73 Olds Cutlass to move it
back a little in the alley so the police wont label it an abandoned
car, so that I can d) park the Miata in the back driveway and e)
park the Plymouth Voyager in the front driveway and f) not have to
get out of the Miata everytime I come home and move the Voyager
up a little to make room for the Miata, since tc/sw leaves it
parked so that there is not room for my car.  For what reason, I
can't say.  Our house is a used car lot.... there are now 6 cars
around the house and tc is about to buy a Jaguar, so there will
be 7, and our family has 2 drivers but will have 3 when the 16-year-
old gets his license next week.  Anybody want to buy a used car?
--ggs (wondering why these batteries run down in only 6 weeks of
not starting up the <cars in question>.....)
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Date:         Sat, 15 Aug 1992 08:28:28 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Back-Formations (was Re: Gender)
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> marks invite as colloquial.  Edit as a noun was needed in
> a new technology, an there is no equivalent word already.

I was talking about edit as a verb, not a noun.  Is it also a noun?
I have nothing at all against back-formations.  I can't think of any word
that I would consider a redundant back-formation.  Usually they're verbs
like "edit" from the noun "editor."  I'm amused by the horror expressed
by some people when they hear new back-formations (some of which may never
catch on, of course) like "attrit" while they don't seem to mind at all
that somebody years ago created "edit" in exactly the same way.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     almost late for tennis...  bah fah now...
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