Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Victory Day in Bangladesh!!!
From: shariq@charlie.usd.edu
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 01:50:12 GMT
Reply-To: shariq@charlie.usd.edu
Organization: The University of South Dakota Computer Science Dept.

In article <BzDKH2.KxL@news.udel.edu>, khaleq@brahms.udel.edu (Mohame Khalequzzaman) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.155819.20631@slate.mines.colorado.edu> imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
>>In article <BzBwoz.GLG@news.udel.edu> khaleq@brahms.udel.edu (Mohame Khalequzzaman) writes:
>>>Today (it is already the 16th of December in Bangladesh) is the Victory
>>>Day in Bangladesh.  This the day when 93,000 pakistani souldiers 
>>>surrendered unconditionally to the joint command of Indian Army and
>>>Bangladeshi Freedom fighters at the end of 9-month-long liberation war
>>>against Pakistan to become independent.  I have a lot of Pakistanis 
>>>friends, who said that most of the people in Pakistan were not aware of
>>>the atrocities organized by their souldiers in Bangladesh.  On learning
>>>the fact that the Pakistani souldiers killed 3 million (yes 3 million people) 
>>>in Bangladesh and raped 200,000 women and destroyed most of the infra-
>>>structure of the country in the name of Islam (!), most of my friends were
>>>shocked and very apologetic and felt ashamed to be a Pakistani.  As long
   Don't you think your figures are kind of overblown or exaggerated?
   Furthermore why should your Pakistani friends be ashamed of the action of
   some people they did not even know! By passing such a statement you are
   going to piss many Pakistanis off. Because of the provocative way you are 
   mentioning it. I don't know if I am misinformed or you are but I am
   certainly going to check this up and get back to you. Just fot the record
   the Bengalis were not the only Mazlooms in the 1971 war. Many Pakistanis
   living there at that time were butchered in the streets by throngs of angry
   Bengali mobs. I say so because some of my family members were killed in this
   conflict. Pakistani women were raped and children were slaughtered but then
   again this is the price of war.
>>>as you the Pakistani people understand and know that the army committed
>>>a historic crime in Bangladesh, we the Bangladeshis can forgive you and
>>>do business again based on mutual respect for each other.  Besides, we
>>>the Bangladeshis know that the people in Pakistan were kept in dark about the whole situation in Bangladesh.  Only great minds can admit wrong-doing and are
>>>capable of apologizing - like the Japanese apologized to Chinese and Korean
>>>for their wrong-doing against those nations.
>>>
>>>Show your courage and greatness today to the Bangladeshi people by
>>>apologizing for the atrocities organized by your previous generations.
>>>Congratulate the heroic Bangladeshis on their network soc.culture.bangladesh.
>>>
>>>Khaleq
>>
>> Why dont you be ashamed yourself as a Bangladeshi ?  Yes your freedom 
>>fighters killed 4 million (yes 4 million non-bengali people on the 
>>name of banglaism). They looted the property of those poeple who didnot
>>want Bangladesh. The proof is still there. Yes 3 lacks innocent muslims
>>are living in regfugee Camps in the so called Sonar Bangla. Bangladesh
>>can never ever be prosper if there are bad prayers and wishes of the 
>>refugees . God is destroying this country with floods and tornados. The 
>>same contry (the poorest in the world) is now asking Pakistan for Help.
>>Please help me ! Please help me ! I am dying . I cannot survive . So 
>>Pakistan is sending food and cloths in the name of God. The economy of 
>>Sonar Bangla (:-)) is all screwed up. Now bengalis are getting fed up
>>with Sonar Bangla and running away to other countries . My country is 
>>now a very good place for them. If you dont believe me come and see
>>how fast is growing the population of sonar bengalis :-). When somebody
>>ask them What happened to Sonar Bangla . They reply,  ' We dont know 
>>it was a nightmare . We were mislead on the name of Banglaism . 
>>There are hell lot of things that can be discussed on this net
>>but unfortunately I dont have enough time. I hope this is sufficent 
>>for today .Go and apologize your God on the sins that you have committed.
>
>We the Bangladeshis are brave enough to apologize for wrong-doing.  But let's
>find out if we have committed any crime.  Your mention of 4 million non-
>Bengali being killed during the Liberation War doesn't have any basis.
>During the war there weren't 4 million non-Bengali living in Bangladesh.
>Can you give me one reference to back up your claim.  I know you can't.
>With regards to 3 lacks strande Biharis all I can say that it is not
>our making or we are not holding them in Bangladesh.  It is the Pakistanis
>who don't want to take them back.  You know the fact.  Just don't throw
>some emotional expressions, because it doesn't help solve any problem.  We
>have to rely on facts and proof.
>
>In answer to your bashing on the present economic situation in Bangladesh,
>I like to mind you that one of the reason why Bangladesh is poor is the
>looting of our national property during 24-year rule.  Natural hazards are
>beyond our capacity.  If you're not stupid then you shouldn't have made a
>statement like this.  Because, natural calamities occur everywhere in
>the World.
 Funny my Bengali friend says that India has sucked Bangladesh dry in the past
 20 years. If you would like to talk to him I will give you his address.
>
>Sonar Bangla!  Yes we are proud of our Sonar Bangla.  The people you see
>in Pakistan, who claim to be from Bangladesh, are either smullgled by
>Internation Smugglers (there are numerous proof of such organized acts) or people who never accepted the creation of Bangladesh in their hearts.  Well, in
>every single countries you will find betrayers who act against the general 
>interest of the mainstream.  They are ill in mind.  We called them Dalals i.e.,
>collaborators.  They don't represent the mainstrem Bengalis, their blood
>is contaminated by Pakistanis.
 Contaminated by Pakistanis.........Are real Bengalis god-send? And sorry to 
 burst the bubble but many Bengalis come to Pakistan to seek employment, and
 no they come with their own free will! Infact there are two Bengali boys
 working at my grandmother's house in Karachi and they are just like family.
>
>Living in poverty is not a crime, but living with a corrupt mind is.
>You can't hind your crime just by throwing some irrational claims.
>The people of the world will not believe in personal claims, go
>get some facts, I mean real facts.
>
>Khaleq
>
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>Amar Sonar Bangla Ami Tomai Bhalobashi  (My Golden Bengal I love you)
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OK Khaleq I expect a reply!


Shariq

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