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From: robert@swanee.ee.uwa.edu.au (Roberto Togneri)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Evaluating PC-based X servers - query
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:20:30 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Elec Eng, Univ of Western Australia

Date: 19 Aug 92 01:27:41 GMT
Message-Id: <robert.714187661@swanee>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Hi,

I am currently evaluating using a PC as an X server (vs and X terminal). 
This evaluation will be important in determining what undergrad computing
lab purchases we make.

My setup consists of:

33Mhz 486 (4 Mb RAM) + Win 3.1 + Xvision 4.1 + PC/TCP 2.03 + Trident t1024c.drv

The Xvision program works very well except for an annoying slow scrolling effect
and slow mouse button activation response. The former occurs when listing
a long document under shelltool. I would like to know:

- is this a common problem with PC-based X servers which can only be solved
  by buying better hardware?
- is this a software problem (i.e. Xvision and/or PC/TCP future upgrades will
  improve this)?
- is this a setting problem (Xvision preferences, improved graphics driver)?


I have also heard mention of DesqView/X? Is this a better X server than
Xvision? Is it more expensive? Does it run under Windows? Does it require
an underlying network program (i.e. PC/TCP)?

Finally Xvision is supposed to run with PC-NFS. We are using PC-NFS 4.0a
and Xvision 4.1 has problems with it. Will this ever be solved (i.e.
by the next release of Xvision)?

Thanks for any help,
--
Dr. Roberto Togneri                        Phone: +61-9-380-2535     _--_|\
Centre for Intelligent Information Processing Systems               /      \ 
Dept. of Electrical & Electronic Engineering                        *_.--._/
The University of Western Australia        Fax:   +61-9-380-1101          v 
NEDLANDS WA 6009 Australia                 Email: robert@swanee.ee.uwa.edu.au
From: vmarsch@adobe.com (Vonn Marsch)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Automated Testing of X Applications
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:57:17 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

Date: 18 Aug 92 23:56:52 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug18.235652.15209@adobe.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps


Dear Friends,

I need advice, caveats, recommendations, and anecdotes concerning automated
testing of X applications.  Specifically, has anyone had any experience
(or know someone who has had experience) with XRunner or Ferret?

Many thanks in advance,

Vonn Marsch
Adobe Systems, Inc.
vmarsch@adobe.com
From: MFREEMAN@intellicorp.com (Mark Freeman)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Changing icons
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:03:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9208202237.AA10430@expo.lcs.mit.edu>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 15:33:36 PDT

I would like to change the desktop icon for my application to something
unique to my application.  How is this done in OpenWindows?  In Motif
I can do this in the .Xdefaults file as such:

Mwm*app*iconImage	bitmap_filename

Is there something analogous in OpenWindows?  

- Mark ()
Intellicorp
(mfreeman@intellicorp.com)
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From: sinan@mtesol.boeing.com (Sinan Karasu)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X books?
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:55:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 16:37:45 PDT
Message-Id: <9208192337.AA11020@mtesol>


> From xpert-mailer@expo.lcs.mit.edu Wed Aug 19 16:11:02 1992
> Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:02:01 GMT
> From: ejd@yabba.lcs.mit.edu (eRic Donaldson)
> Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA
> Subject: X books?
> 
> I have the first printing of the 7 volume set "The Definitive Guides
> to the X Window System", copyright 1990.
> 
> I was wondering if there is a more recent printing than this?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ---
> 
> eRic [sic] Donaldson			Image Processing Research Laboratory
> (ejd@babypuss.mitre.org)		The MITRE Corporation
> 
> 
> 

I have the first printing of the 7 volume set "The Definitive Guides
to the X Window System", copyright 1990.

I was wondering if there is a more recent printing than this?

Thanks,
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Why is initial screen I/O so slow? (=NeWS!)
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:45:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.

Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:01:17 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug14.080314.18954@cas.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.windows.x

In article <1992Aug12.141157.2277@lsl.co.uk> snail@lsl.co.uk writes:
:In article <1992Aug10.170900.6655@nenufar.saclay.cea.fr>, basile@soleil.serma.cea.fr (Basile STARYNKEVITCH) writes:
:> In article <1992Aug10.123858.15682@fel.tno.nl>, 
:> qb7g6@fel.tno.nl (Maarten Landzaat) writes in comp.sys.sun.misc:
:> |> Can anybody explain the technical or marketing reasons why the initial
:> |> screen I/O on any Sun is so terribly slow? Everything's OK when you start
:> 
:> I suppose Maarten is talking about the (lot of) time it takes to start
:> an OpenWindow session
:
:I thought he was refering to the appaling scrolling that happens if the Sun
:machine is just in text mode (not in Open Windows etc) and behaves as if in

This discussion was just covered in comp.sys.sun.hardware I believe - 
including several solutions for the problem.  It has nothing to do with NeWS
or OpenWindows.  Thanks!
-- 
Larry W. Virden                 UUCP: osu-cis!chemabs!lvirden
Same Mbox: BITNET: lvirden@cas  INET: lvirden@cas.org
Personal: 674 Falls Place,   Reynoldsburg, OH 43068-1614
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From: d8ahlcr@dtek.chalmers.se (Christopher Ahlberg)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: how to load a pixmap into a region????
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:51:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

Date: 12 Aug 92 15:31:11 GMT
Message-Id: <13318@chalmers.se>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I'm trying to load a pixmap - bitmap into a region. If anyone could help
me with how how to do it, I would be most grateful.

	/Christopher
--
Christopher Ahlberg		       Chalmers University of Technology
email: d8ahlcr@dtek.chalmers.se	       School of Computer Science & Engineering
				       G|teborg, Sweden
From: kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Kaleb Keithley)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: How to know a client itself has been killed?
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:14:50 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:24:49 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug17.152449.2367@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <20622@optima.cs.arizona.edu> azhao@cs.arizona.edu (Qiang Alex Zhao) writes:
>
>How can a client know that itself has been killed by the window manager?

RTFICCCM, (Read the Fine Inter-Client Communications Conventions Manual),
the section on WM_PROTOCOLS and WM_DELETE_WINDOW is your best bet.

Other alternatives include selecting SubstructureNotify and handling the
DestroyNotify event on your application top level window, or catching the
error when the client side detects that the server has closed the connection.

-- 

Kaleb Keithley                          kaleb@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov

Not authorized, in any way, shape, or form, to speak for anyone.
From: wald@alfalfa.sps.mot.com (Steve Wald)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: xman garbled text question
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:01:56 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Motorola, Paging and Telepoint Systems Group

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:41:03 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug17.174103.23679@newsgate.sps.mot.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Aug14.160948.25877@cis.ohio-state.edu> frank@cis.ohio-state.edu (Frank Adelstein) writes:
>Some man pages (for example, XtGetApplicationResources) will have
>various parts (like page headers, some bold italic things, and other
>stuff) of the text that's garbled.  Scrolling sometimes can make
>things worse.  Does anyone know if there's something (patches,
>different fonts, ??) that will fix this?  This is X11R5p12 on Sun SLCs
>running SunOS 4.1.

  It's not just a problem on SunOS... Read on.

  (Ultrix 4.2 contains Xman Version 3.1.4 - X11R4.)

  All I wanted to do was get rid of the annoying page headers & footers
in the middle of my xman window. So I linked tmac.an to tmac.an.nopage,
a macro distributed with ULTRIX 4.2 "for viewing ULTRIX reference pages
without pagination."

  Now xman dies on several man files, usually long files, after scrolling 
down several pages, with the message:

	Error: SBLW: cannot be both bold and italic.
	Process 4499 exited "xman"

  I tried several hacks to different man macros, but I always get the
problem on some man page or other unless pagination is in. xman also
tends to highlight random lines in bold font which shouldn't be. The man
program and nroff show none of these problems, so I don't think the
macros are bad.

  Has anyone else tried this? Am I the only one who hates large blank
spots and page numbers in the middle of my xman pages? Can anyone 
provide a fix or workaround?


-- 
Steve Wald, Motorola Inc.
wald@borg.sps.mot.com
From: kale@aelle.cs.odu.edu ("Vijay S. Kale")
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Source Code for any Drawing Program in X/Motif
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:00:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Old Dominion University

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:17:57 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug17.181757.24205@cs.odu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.graphics,comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

Hi Folks,

 Could any one out there give me pointers to any info/source on
 a code that would allow to draw and manipulate simple diagrams
 with lines, arcs, texts in an X/Motif enviromnment.

 Young/Brain books do give some info but they do not provide
 routines to select the objects and manipulate them.

 I will very much appreciate.

 Thanks.

..Vijay
From: cristy@eplrx7.es.dupont.com (Cristy)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: WANTED:  Program to play a set of PostScript files in sequence
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:53:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: DuPont Central Research & Development

Date: 12 Aug 92 16:05:14 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug12.160514.713@eplrx7.es.duPont.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps

In article <1992Aug12.055427.19886@leland.Stanford.EDU> buc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Richards) writes:
>NEEDED: A program to display a set of postscript files where each
>        postscript file may be thought of as a frame in a movie.
>

Try 'animate' from contrib/ImageMagick.tar.Z on export.lcs.mit.edu:

  animate frame*.ps
-- 
cristy@dupont.com
From: tmod@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X11R5 compile on SCO: problems
Date: 14 Aug 92 02:49:20 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University College Dublin

Date: 13 Aug 92 15:30:43 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug13.153043.49490@ccvax.ucd.ie>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

help please,
  I am trying to compile X11R5 on SCO SYSV386 v3.2.2. At link time I get the
  error :
          Undefined: writev
  SCO doesn't seem to have writev though. Am I compiling with the wrong flags
  (-DSCO -DBROKEN_FTOL -DNO_PROTOTYPE -D_SVID -DSYSV -DSYSV386)  ?
  Is it a problem with the operating system?? Should it have writev ??

	help would be very appreciated,
                                        T O'Donnell.
From: mirek@unixg.ubc.ca (Miroslaw Piaseczny)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X386R5 installation. Please help.
Date: 13 Aug 92 04:08:47 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada

Date: 12 Aug 92 23:44:20 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug12.234420.21123@unixg.ubc.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I'm just trying to compile X11R5 under ISC 3.2  v.2.2.  For some reason
I'm getting 'Hash table overflow' messages.
Can any good soul advise?

I started with:
                make World BOOTSTRAPCFLAGS="-DISC -DSYSV -DSYSV386"

and  the problem seems to be with cc on mit/lib/X files.

Thanks in advance,

Mirek
From: raum@isoa3.ba.ttu.edu (Raum Pattikonda)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Problems in X event handling
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:03:28 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Texas Tech University

Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:37:20 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug19.063720.2994@ctr.columbia.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x




During a display, typical client program recognizes the "expose" event, 
computes the data and sends for display to the X server. For many 
applications such as VLSI circuit layout, editing, construction 
and display may take easily 2 to 3 minutes over a busy network. 
Many applicatons use a default window size to create a window 
which may not be large enough to show the data in detail. Typically 
the user resizes the window as soon as it appears. In such a case 
the expose event is acknowledged two times and the image is displayed 
two times. There is wastage of time and resources. This problem can be 
solved if the clients were written properly to handle asynchrounous
events or if Xlib has a watch dog to look for events asynchrounously 
and take appropriate action. In our example the the watch dog will 
peek and detect the second expose event before the action is taken for 
first expose event and will make client discard the first expose event. 

I would like to know if any work has been done in this regard.
Thanks in advance.


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From: wenshuo@kff1.uchicago.edu (Wenshuo Li)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: No title in original
Date: 18 Aug 92 10:40:21 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 01:11:14 CDT
Message-Id: <9208180611.AA21022@kff1.uchicago.edu.PSNCL>

Dear Sir/Madam:
	I would appreciate it if you could remove my name from the xpert mailinglist.
Sincerely yours,
Wenshuo Li
From: abadmota@yoko.rutgers.edu (Soraya Abad Mota)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Medical Images in X
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:29:40 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Date: 17 Aug 92 22:13:31 GMT
Message-Id: <Aug.17.18.13.31.1992.1191@yoko.rutgers.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Hi,

An X application needs to display, store and manipulate Medical
Images, what are the choices in terms of format and routines 
available? I guess one way would be to use the XImage structure
and call Xlib routines, are there other alternatives? Would someone
with experience in this type of application, please give me some advice?

(Please respond via e-mail, I'll summarize if there's interest.)

Thanks in advance,
Soraya Abad-Mota (abadmota@paul.rutgers.edu)
From: duvvuri@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (RAVI DUVVURI)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: distributed computing and X
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:39:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ

Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:20:32 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug17.212032.12310@ennews.eas.asu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x



I am trying to to write a distributed paint program in X/Xview. Is it
possible to do it without going to the level of sockets. Can i do it
using purely Xlib and XView. It does not seem to me that we can. If 
you have any ideas please let me know.

Thanx in advance!!!!


Ravi Duvvuri.

e-mail : duvvuri@enuxha.eas.asu.edu
From: mark@lowton.rn.com (Mark Powell)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Orchid Prodesigner IIHCs and Sampo Alphascan 15
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:51:08 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Mark-one Communications

Date: 12 Aug 92 13:28:21 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug12.132821.742@lowton.rn.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.windows.x,comp.unix.sysv386

An X386 question:
I have an Orchid Prodesigner IIHCs and a Sampo Alphascan 15
monitor. I got the Xconfig database off of comp.windows.x
some weeks ago and from it I see my card can clock up to 75MHz.
(I'd previously only been using the 65MHz clock which I was told existed.)
The Sampo can sync. up to 60KHz according to docs. (anyone
know better?), but when I try the following Xconfig values
I get a steadier picture (higher vertical sync.) than a 65MHz clock,
but there is image breakup on vertical lines.

###############################################################################
# Card: 		Orchid ProDesigner IIs
# Contributor: 		David Wexelblat [dwex@mtgzz.att.com]
# Last Edit Date: 	10/14/91
#
# chip    ram   virtual    clocks                   default-mode  flags
 ET4000  1024  1152 900    25 28 32 36 40 45 75 65  "1152x864"

# name       clock  horzontal timing      vertical timing      flags
"640x480"   25     640  672  768  800    480  490  492  525
"800x600"   36     800  848  920 1056    600  608  610  633
"936x702"   65	   936  968 1168 1208    702  747  788  810
"1024x768i" 45    1024 1064 1224 1264    768  777  785  817   Interlace
"1024x768"  65    1024 1064 1128 1280    768  768  770  800
"1152x864"  75    1152 1200 1248 1400    864  864  876  900

Monitor's fastest horizontal sync.= 1/60000 = 16.67us
1152x864 mode horizontal time = 1/75000000 * 1400 = 18.67us
18.67us = 1/18.67e-6 = 53571Hz (well below the 60KHz maximum monitor sync.)

This is the original database entry with the numbers trimmed a little
in the "1024x768" line and my own "1152X864" line. The "1024x768" is
fine at 65MHz, but if the clock value is changed to 75 in Xconfig and
X restarted the display is steady, but again with vertical line break-up.
The monitor cable is supposed to be shielded and the monitor doesn't seem
to be near any RFI source.

Anyone any ideas why this is happening?
I can only assume that the Sampo is not up to it's specs.?

Thanks in advance.

BTW Even though using 75 gives break-up maybe I'll keep using it if it's
    better for my eyes. Anyone agree? Maybe a repost to sci.med? I'm
    using 75 at the mo. to post this article, so the break-up isn't bad,
    just annoying after sitting down and working out that from the specs.
    this card and monitor should provide a 1024x768 at around 70Hz. Only
    to find I've got to settle around 60Hz.
-- 
Mark Powell

mark@lowton.rn.com				Home:	+44 942 714317
uunet!gator!jshark!lowton!mark			Nr. Manchester, UK.
From: sinan@mtesol.boeing.com (Sinan Karasu)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: XGrabPointer
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:02:11 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation
From: baby@info.polymtl.ca (Philippe Grant)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Why is initial screen I/O so slow? (=NeWS!)
Date: 15 Aug 92 08:58:04 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal, Canada

Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:51:30 GMT
Message-Id: <BABY.92Aug13155132@turing.info.polymtl.ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x

In article <1992Aug10.232537.16251@sq.sq.com> lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin) writes:


>   You can get a small speed-up by disabling the "OpenWinsow 3" banner at 
>   startup.
>
>   -- 
>   Liam Quin, lee@sq.com, SoftQuad, Toronto, 416 239-4801

...and would you share the wealth?
How would a common mortal go about
disabling this banner?

--
Philippe Grant                     | If it ain't broke,
Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal    | DON'T FIX IT!!!
baby@info.polymtl.ca               | Including this signature!
From: pax@hcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Garry Paxinos)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: WANTED: highest graphics performance under 386BSD X11R5, DOS, Windows
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:54:57 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9208181333.AA27592@hcx1>
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 9:33:49 EDT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL5]

> >WINGINE based (just released by Chips and Technologies, VERY fast)
> >
> >The Wingine VGA cards are not yet in wide distribution but
> >I have heard that they do not have the silly segmented memory
> >addressing bottle-neck of regular VGA cards. This will be a BIG plus.
> 
> The S3 chipsets and the TSENG, et4000 are capable of full CPU memory access.

However, the WINGINE allows access thru a flat address space (ie: no
bank swapping...)  Definetly a win on performance for a non-accelerated board.

Pax.
--
pax@metrolink.com      Metro Link Incorporated
Porting Metro-X to the NightHawk
From: mahan@tgv.com (Patrick L. Mahan)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: RE: X11R5-based vt100 emulator needed
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:48:45 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date:    Wed, 12 Aug 92 11:51:55 PDT
Message-Id: <920812115155.266002e3@TGV.COM>
X-St-Vmsmail-To: ST%"xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu"

#
#in order to use a local database, we have to be able to emulate
#a vt100, complete with function keys. we'd like to use something
#like xvttool, or tooltool, but xvttool is written for xview and
#tooltool is written for sunview, and we don't run openwindows.
#I have tried running a binary version of xvttool that was compiled
#elsewhere, but it's not quite right under pure X11R5.
#

What's wrong with Xterm?

Patrick L. Mahan

--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------

Waking a person unnecessarily should not be considered  - Lazarus Long
a capital crime.  For a first offense, that is            From the Notebooks of
							  Lazarus Long
From: connolly@convex.com (Dan Connolly)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: using Imake for multi-arch. source trees?
Date: 19 Aug 92 00:13:07 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA

Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:09:38 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Aug18.210938.25239@news.eng.convex.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

The ComplexProgramTarget() etc macros defined by Imake.rules assume the
normal source-and-object-in-same-directory conventions. I'd like
to maintain a tree like the InterViews package:

	src/
	   libfoo/
		  foo.c
		  CONVEX/
			 foo.o
			 libfoo.a
		  sun4/
		       foo.o
		       libfoo.a

Should I just grab the stuff from InterViews/config and start hacking?
Anybody else done this kind of thing?

Dan
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Why is initial screen I/O so slow? (=NeWS!)
Date: 15 Aug 92 22:56:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central

Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 22:08:59 GMT
Message-Id: <CKD.92Aug15180857@loiosh.eff.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.misc,comp.windows.news,comp.windows.x

PG> == Philippe Grant <baby@info.polymtl.ca> 
LQ> == lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin) writes:

 LQ> You can get a small speed-up by disabling the "OpenWinsow 3" banner
 LQ> at startup.

 PG> ...and would you share the wealth?  How would a common mortal go
 PG> about disabling this banner?

Well, we did it here by installing X11R5 (which has other advantages,
and the primary disadvantage is that we can't use AnswerBook [easily]).

Of course, this solution is not for those who need some OW3-only
functionality, or who have a corporate requirement for vendor-supported
software.

--
Christopher Davis * ckd@eff.org * System Administrator, EFF * +1 617 864 0665
            ``Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ti Kwan Leep.
            Approach me that you might see.'' -- The Master
From: CFRAZIER@hdsc.ssc.af.mil (C | C Code | C Code Run, please!)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: drag and drop
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:52:57 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date:    Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:48:41 -0500 (CDT)
Message-Id: <920814134841.22201035@hdsc.ssc.af.mil>
X-Vmsmail-To: SMTP%"xpert@athena.mit.edu"

I'm trying to figure out how to drag and drop widgets.  Sort of like the way
a person and can drag and drop icons.  I'd also like to know how I could 
incorporate my knowledge of ICCCM to widgets.  Thanks.......