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From: nss3@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Noel Steere)
Subject: Re: Villanueva
Reply-To: nss3@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 21:17:07 GMT

In article <9211092348.AA18487@bottom.magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> C Robert Claydon <cclaydon@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
>For those of you who haven't heard...
>
>The Chicago Cubs released catcher Hector Villaneuva today!!!
>
>(Seeing as how he was a net-hero at one point in the recent past, I was 
>wondering how people would react to this...).

Well, for one thing, it means he can start his '96 campaign early! :-)

Noel Steere                  |...of the Dave Rossing fan club
GM/Manager, New York Knights |Knights' Final Run Total: 806 Runs
Internet Baseball League     |
nss3@midway.uchicago.edu     |HECTOR VILLANUEVA FOR PREZ IN '96!
Make outs, not walks!        |Cal Ripken, AL Gold Glove?  Well, at least
(well, Joe *said* I said it!)|  we got rid of Bush and Quayle...
From: barrym@informix.com (Barry Mednick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: jints to stay
Summary: I didn't say it.
Keywords: Giants
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:39:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <74311@apple.apple.COM> chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin) writes:

>barrym@informix.com (Barry Mednick) writes:
>>>Let Bob Lurie build his own stadium instead of trying to steal from the
>>>pockets of the people of San Francisco, San Jose, Santa Clara, etc.
I did not say this.  In fact, I was quoting someone else and taking
exception to the above remark.  I agree with chuq that no owner will
build his own park unless he thinks it is in his best interests to do so.
And most owners would prefer to let the city build a park.   
Which leaves the Giants right where they were last year.
No plans for a ballpark, not even a feasible site.  ("feasible" meaning
"no serious political opposition") 
New owners, but same old problems.
--------------------
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From: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com (Dan Smith)
Subject: Re: Keith Mitchell ???
Reply-To: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:59:11 GMT

In article 24812@osf.org, ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.192059.26358@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com (Dan Smith) writes:
>|> 
>|> How could the expansion teams pass on Keith Mitchell. As an avid Braves fan,
>|> he looked great last year (.318 avg on pennant contender) and has good minor
>|> league credentials.
>
>  How do you know he's an avid Braves fan?
>

Ok. Got me on bad use of English. However, to be painfully technical, he 
probably IS an avid Braves fan since he plays for the team. Anyway, back to baseball.
If the second round protection lists given by the Constitution are accurate, Mitchell
should have been taken.




>|> Braves look real good to repeat as NL champs. Should be interesting '93 season!
>
>  Yeah - they'll certainly be in contention again! And also in '94, '95, etc. 
>
>-Ron

 Hope you're right!  



Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: cmk@athena.mit.edu (Charles M Kozierok)
Subject: Re: does anybody know...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:05:36 GMT

In article <92319.135250RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu writes:
>
>does anybody know if there's actually a rule that you must have a
>player hanging around between home plate and the umpire?
>
>if there is no such rule, i see no reason not to put your catcher
>behind second base to get balls up the middle, until there's
>actually a reason for him to be behind the plate (e.g., runners
>on base, or two strikes on the batter).
>
>of course, the ump would probably be pissed off, but hey, that's
>his problem, man.  the catcher is not at all useful to the team
>when there is no one on base and less than two outs.  except for
>maybe fielding really good bunts, but just give your pitchers
>extra practice on bunts.  also, the catcher gets an occassional
>popup, but it seems to me that ground balls up the middle are
>much more common than popups that the catcher catches that neither
>the first baseman nor the third baseman could have caught.
>
>bob vesterman.

that's an interesting thought, actually. it might improve the defense
in those cases. unfortunately, it would be quite impractical. for one thing,
the catcher calls the game, and tempo and consistency is important
to both good pitching and also the defense. combined with the catcher having
to switch back and forth depending on whether there were two strikes
on the batter, i think it would affect the pitchers, especially younger
ones.

i don't know if there is such a rule, but i would bet that if not,
there would be one exactly one day after this was tried; either that,
or a strike by the umpires' union...

--
charles
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: dae@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.a.elliott)
Subject: Re: Post-Draft Thoughts (was:Reaction to Rockies Draft)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:40:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.172522.16688@cs.cornell.edu> tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer) writes:
>In article <Bxwzw6.IJE@encore.com> jsosa@encore.com (Joe Sosa) writes:
>>1b	Jeff Conine
>
>Looks like quality.  How old is he?

Conine is 26, and will turn 27 in mid-season next year.  Before anyone
immediately pegs him as a non-prospect, let me provide a little context.

Conine was drafted out of college as a pitcher in a very late round (57th?).
The Royals discovered that, as a world-class raquetball player, he had
quick, strong wrists and incredible eye-hand coordination.  They moved him
to first base, and he quickly blossomed as a hitter.

After 2 years in the minors, he was ready to play in the bigs (right on
schedule for a college player).  He broke his wrist in winter ball, though,
and trying to come back too fast he re-injured the wrist early in 91.  After
struggling for a couple of months, he went on the DL for the rest of 91.  In
92, the Royals did not even give him a look in spring training, and he
turned in a fine year in AAA.

I'd put him in the Joyner/Morris class of medium power first basemen.  I
wouldn't be surprised to see a .365/.465 season from him, with about 15 HRs.
In other words, better numbers than ANY Royal turned in last year.

At least the Royals can still field a lineup next year with David Howard,
Brian McRae, and Brent Mayne in it.  Obviously, they didn't need Conine.

No smileys here.



Dave Elliott
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: cs911364@ariel.yorku.ca (SHING-YAN EDDIE SY LING)
Subject: Re: Catcher in the rye
Originator: cs911364@c11.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:02:20 GMT


In article <BxuJGB.zn@math.uwaterloo.ca>, The FASS Theatre Company <fass@math.uwaterloo.ca> writes:
>> 
>> Just read in a Toronto paper that Cleveland is offering Sandy Alomar Jr.
>> for Pat Borders and one of RH Scott Brow (14-2 2.43 Class A) or
>> Marcus Moore (5-10 5.59 Double A).
>> Any thoughts?
>> 
>> Lee.

I read the same news too.... umm I think that it will be a good deal... think about the fielding percentage of Pat Border and Sandy Alomar Jr.

Eddie Ling
cs911364@ariel.yorku.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: mjones@fenway.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Mike Jones)
Subject: Re: Favorite Toy predictions
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:20:39 GMT
Reply-To: mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Corp. Kingston NY

In article <1992Nov14.235852.13089@Princeton.EDU> niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
>In article <1992Nov14.221206.16249@cs.wayne.edu> dfl@math.wayne.edu (David Frohardt-Lane) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov14.052538.23497@watson.ibm.com> mjones@fenway.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Mike Jones) writes:
>>>In article <1992Nov14.041535.42077@watson.ibm.com> mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com writes:
>>>>Players with an established chance to make 600 doubles:
>>>>Note: 792 is the career record.
>>>>Player          Age  EPL  Total  600   700  793
>>>>Ken Griffey      23   38    132   33    19    9
>>I did a Brock2 projection on Griffey Jr. a couple weeks ago, and if I
>>remember correctly, he was projected to hit about 822 doubles, which
>>would break the record.  He was also projected to be something like 4th
>>on the all-time hit list, and about tenth in RBIs and runs.
>Yeah, he is a pretty amazing player, isn't he?  What happened to Frank
>Thomas on these lists, though?

Well, I either forgot him or didn't have 1990 data for him. I'll check
which.

   Mike Jones  |  AIX/ESA Development  |  mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com

A plucked goose doesn't lay golden eggs.
From: wlarkin@igc.apc.org (Ward Larkin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Reggie Jackson's last strikeout?
Date: 22 Nov 92 21:48:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1459000008:000:290
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!wlarkin    Nov 22 13:48:00 1992


I'd like to find out the details associated with Reggie Jackson's
last strikeout.  This would be when, where, against which pitcher,
against which team, the inning, the number of outs, if anyone was
on base, what he eat for breakfast that day, etc.

Please email responses.

-- Ward Larkin
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: A TRUE RUMOR!  Sandy Alomar for Pat Borders
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:58:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.223816.28584@r-node.gts.org> shadow@r-node.gts.org (Jay Chu) writes:

>So, the trade on the table is:
>
>Alomar and Baerga for Borders and Lee
>
>I don't understand this deal at all.  Roberto Alomar is already in 2B, why
>need Baerga?  Could Baerga be used for another trade????????

Because, Baerga is simply better than Lee, even if his defense is horrible
at SS?

If the Indians make this deal, expect them to just be the Indians next year.
I think Baerga is overrated, but he's an essential piece of the puzzle,
nonetheless, and Borders is not going to provide the offense (or defense) that
Baerga provided.

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 13:54:40 EST
From: Ryan R Robbins <IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Draft Conspiracy Theory
 <timlin.722201599@spot.Colorado.EDU>

Jody Reed was indeed picked by Colorado and then traded to Los
Angeles.

+===============================================================+
||   RYAN ROBBINS                    INTERNET:                 ||
||   UNIVERSITY OF MAINE             IO20456@MAINE.MAINE.EDU   ||
+===============================================================+
From: mspede@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Jays/Angels trade rumor - 3 for Abott
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:28:46 PST

In article <1992Nov17.172212.26142@nstn.ns.ca>, maceache@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Tim Maceachern) writes:
> In today's Toronto Globe and Mail the rumor is that the Jays have
> arrived at a trade with the Angels for Jim Abbott.   The Jays will
> give up:
>     Todd Stottlemeyer
>     Randy Knorr
>     Domingo Martinez
> 
> I love this deal, but I'm a Jays fan.  Can the Angels, or anybody else,
> possibly spare a pitcher as good as Abbott?
> 
> Tim MacEachern

  I wonder if the Angels are kinda hoping that Harvey gets the
  draft-and-traded treatment so that $$$ are freed up for a 3- or 
  4-yr Abbott deal ?

  If not, maybe the "trade Abbott" rumors will come true.  I say this
  because Mrs Autry stated last year that they will/are lose/losing
  money and Finley, Langston and Harvey are have multi-yr $10M+ contracts.

  Mark Pede
From: RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: two possibilities.
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:04:01 GMT

barring some strange reason which has not been made public, no team
in their right mind would use their second draft pick of all time to
draft charlie hayes.

   possibility 1: the rockies are not in their right mind.

   possibility 2: big one-sided yanks-rockies trade coming.
   "take charlie please!"

but possibility 1 is where my money is.  what a schmuck gm.

bob vesterman.
From: mgriffin@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Mark Griffin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Jose Lind Traded to KC Royals
Date: 20 Nov 1992 13:26:05 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose) writes:

>The Pittsburgh Pirates sent Jose Lind to the Royals on Thursday for
>Dennis Moeller and Joel Johnston.

I look at this trade as pretty much a non-factor for both the Pirates and the
Royals.  It may actually help the Pirates just by the subtraction of Lind, but
I'm sure they didn't gain anything great from the Royals.  Now, Garcia will
definately get the chance to play.  He should hit slightly better than Lind,
but his fielding won't be quite as good as Lind.  So they probably remain about
even at 2B, except they save over a million bucks which might help sign Drabek.
The Royals pretty much suck at practically every position on the field. 
Granted, gaining Chico will not be a great improvement, but at least they got
a good fielding middle infielder for very little cost.  Miller hit well for a
2B, but his fielding was atrocious.  I don't know what the numbers say about
his fielding, but if you have ever seen him attempt a double play you will see
that he is not a natural two sacker.  Of course, improving 2B slightly will
probably be negated by moving Miller to LF.  Just what they need a weak 
hitting LF.  If he could play CF and get rid of McRae, then that would possibly
be a slight improvement at the plate, but once again you give up defense.
Basically, the Royals need to sign Ozzie Smith, Ruben Sierra, and Drabek
to even get remotely competitive.   

-- 
.   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .  .
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Internet:mgriffin@matt.ksu.ksu.edu Bitnet:mgriffin@ksuvm |do, than be done to.
.   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .  .
From: chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Marlins fans are merely jealous...
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:06:08 GMT
Organization: Pooh Corner Country Club -- A Planned Community

wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee) writes:

>People love black, silver, purple. TEAL??????? 

Teal ain't a problem. Trust me.

Chuq (San Jose Shark Season ticket Holder
-- 
            Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX)
                      Member, SFWA =+= Editor, OtherRealms
                chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ 

    I wanna drive the zamboni! I wanna drive the zamboni, yes I do.
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: chuq@Apple.COM (Eeyore's Evil Twin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Mitchell for Charlton and other trades.
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:38:33 GMT
Organization: Pooh Corner Country Club -- A Planned Community

traven+@pitt.edu (Neal Traven) writes:

>If I'm not mistaken, Mitchell wears a beard/goatee/scraggle/something.  I
>wonder how he'll react to the Reds' antediluvean 'no facial hair' policy.

Same way he reacts to everything: sulk, mope around, make negative comments
in the media, strike out a lot and then go on the DL.

-- 
            Chuq "IMHO" Von Rospach, ESD Support & Training (DAL/AUX)
                      Member, SFWA =+= Editor, OtherRealms
                chuq@apple.com | GEnie: MAC.BIGOT | ALink:CHUQ 

    I wanna drive the zamboni! I wanna drive the zamboni, yes I do.
From: Shawn.T.Burgess@dartmouth.edu (Shawn T. Burgess)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: HOF voting
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:57:12 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a6@newshost.dartmouth.edu


I seem to have lost the address where we're supposed to send our
ballots to.  Could someone please give it to me?  Thanks!
***shawn.burgess@dartmouth.edu***
Texas Rangers in 93!
(or 94 or 95 or 96, etc.)
My opinions in no way represent the views of Dartmouth College.
From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Mariner leadoff (WAS Re: Mitchell for Charlton and other trades.)
Date: 20 Nov 1992 21:18:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g215a-1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <ataylor.722283512@uclagsm> ataylor@agsm.ucla.edu (Al Taylor)  
writes:
> arrow@netcom.com (Les Arrow) writes:
[regarding Mariner leadoff possiblilities]
> >Sure. Briley really hasn't been given a chance to play so I think it is
> >unfair to use his .320 career OBP against him yet. Besides, their other
> >choices are to go with wasting Edgar Martinez in the #1 spot or resigning 
> >Harold Reynolds who doesn't have a much better career OBP and would stifle
> >the play of Bret Boone. Of course, they could always go out and get  
someone,
> >but I doubt that will happen.
> 
> Why not Cotto? I beleive that given a full time spot in the Outfield that
> he would make an excellent lead off man. Good batting, great speed and
> (I'm pretty sure on this) his slugging percentage was pretty close if not
> better then Buhner (over rated)-not because he hits the ball out of the
> park, but because he hits the ball more often.

Buhner's slugging last year was .422 his lowest since 1988.
Buhner also has a higher career OBP than Cotto.
Also, cotto turns 32 next year and can be expected to decline 
more sharply than Buhner (or Briley).

some Cotto BA/OB/SLG numbers:  and    some of Buhner's:
1990:     .259/.307/.349                    .276/.357/.479 
1991:     .305/.347/.463 (all career highs) .244/.337/.498
1992:     .259/.294/.354                    .243/.333/.422
last5yrs: .265/.307/.381                    .246/.332/.456
career:   .263/.303/.373                    .246/.331/.454
STATS93:  .260/.298/.357                    .245/.334/.440
      (STATS93 = STATS projection for 1993)
Briley's STATS projection:  .262/.315/.392

I'd say Cotto would be a pretty poor choice for a leadoff man.
He doesn't get on base often enough - but his speed does allow
him to get back to the bench faster and speed up the game.

john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
finally. Done with finals. till next quarter...
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: jle@world.std.com (Joe M Leonard)
Subject: Regarding player hoarding
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:17:54 GMT


Would it not be simpler to have a league structured to maintain a 
subset of its roster from year to year?  If a team has 25 active
and 10 inactive players, "force" a cutdown to 20 player, with the
extra going into the pot with the rookies for the draft.  This way,
it becomes a decision point to keep a backup 3B rather than a 4th starter.

I've played in 10-16 team Strato leagues that ran this way, and the
only problem arose when the talent pool wasn't big enough to cover
a position - like 3B is now.  There might be 26 teams (oops, 28...),
but there aren't even 10 guys I'd call a 3B-man...  It's been SS
in previous years, or catchers...

Joe Leonard
jle@world.std.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (Dave Bonar)
Subject: Mac. Baseball Games
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
Organization: News and Views from LSU
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:33:38 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-22805]: sn01.sncc.lsu.edu

	
	I'm looking for info on the various computer baseball games available
for the Mac. I've heard some reviews of games in general but I have a sneaking
suspision that most of them aren't available outside of the PC market.

	Some of the features I'm interested in include;

	realistic results
	ability to generate players from stats (hopefully including def.
		ratings through something like range facters).  I don't
		like being forced to buy a new disk each year!
	realistic handling of pitchers, batter l/r splits 
	ability to play either human vs comp; comp vs. comp; or human vs. human
	reasonable handling of drafting and running replay leagues


Dave 
__________
Dave Bonar
eebonar@lsuvax.sncc.lsu.edu
__________

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu (Dave Bonar)
Subject: Re: Ridding Yourself of the Reserve Clause...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: eebonar@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu
Organization: News and Views from LSU
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:00:57 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-23380]: sn01.sncc.lsu.edu

In article <aprqcf-@lynx.unm.edu>, kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose) writes...

	Some things you didn't mention are the number of players per roster
and the number of teams.
>***************************
> 
>I'm trying to put an offer on the table to try to work out some rules to solve
>this problem.  Among the solutions I've presented...
> 
>A)  Contract rules, and simulated salaries, with a salary cap.
>-Difficult to implement after the fact, and a hassle for whoever tries to
> attach salaries.  I, along with many in the league, are passionately against
> the "auction" method of drafting.

	A royal pain to add in now.

>B)  Impose rules that mandate playing time upon owners.  Each player must play
>    between 60%-125% of their real-life playing time, or be released.
>-The "haves" claim that this penalizes them, by keeping them from keeping
> players they've drafted.  If one person drafts, say, Dave Hollins, Terry
> Pendleton, and Matt Williams, then why should they have to drop one or two
> of them just because they turned out to be good players?  If those players
> carry a certain market price, why shouldn't they be able to trade them for
> fair market value, determined by demand?  If a team has three third baseman,
> and has to drop a couple of them, what happens if the third player goes
> down?  

	The 'haves' have a very valid point.  I wouldn't think that this
was the way to go since I don't feel you should ever be penalized for drafting
well.

>C)  Mandate a ceiling on the amount of playing time a team can stock.  I 
>    would suggest a ceiling of 7500 plate appearances, and 200 starts.  This
>    allows every team to lose one starter and one position player for the
>    entire year, and still comfortably cover themselves.
>-Again, people have complained that their team is being penalized for having
> good players on it.

	Why put a ceiling on playing time?  Just put a ceiling on players
as you suggest later.  If every team can only protect 20 players there will
be a reasonable amount of shuffling and free agency each year without overly
penalizing anyone just because they drafted well and got a couple of good
players at a position.

Dave
__________
Dave Bonar
eebonar@lsuvax.sncc.lsu.edu
__________
From: 832root@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Stat Software wanted for Amiga
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:52:38 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I'm organizing a rotisserie league, and I'm looking for some software to
do stats on.  The softwware has to support USA Today BBS stats format.
 
Problem - I have an Amiga.  First question - are there any COMMERCIAL
packages out there for the Amiga?

Second question - are there any public domain/shareware packages out
there for the Amiga?

Third question - Where can I get them?  Ftp sites, mail order houses, etc.


 Thanks in advance!
 
                   - Rick

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
From: bernstei@next3.corp.mot.com(Andrew Bernstein)
Subject: Computer Version, Statis Pro Baseball
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:07:10 GMT


Does anybody have a copy of this on an IBM?   I don't really care how old it is, I know they  
used to make one but have discontinued it.  

I would be willing to buy it if the price was reasonable.....THANKS!

Andrew Bernstein

bernstei@next3.corp.mot.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy