HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dsm40@mcode.amdahl.com (Diana St.Martin)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: need shop recommendation in Santa Cruz
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:36:08 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation - Macrocode Development

In article <1992Nov11.234040.21717@netcom.com>, sjk@netcom.com (Shel Kaphan) writes:
> I have a '86 Yamaha FZ 750 which was recovered after having been
> stolen from my house, and needs repairs (gouged out ignition switch...
> and it needs to be serviced anyway).  Any recommendations on
> competent non-ripoff shops in Santa Cruz or short distance from there?

I have had very good success with the people at All American Honda.  They are
fast, nice people who appear to do good work.  Hope this helps.

Diana

(and her NightHawk)
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ARRGGHH!! Stolen Mirrors!
Date: 7 Nov 1992 18:46:10 GMT
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu

In article <25228@sybase.sybase.com> alexb@sybase.com (Alex Burmester) writes:
>Why not
>steal the cover too?

Why doesn't your cover have your bike's license number painted
on it in big letters?
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
From: dcook@garnet.berkeley.edu (Dan Cook)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: pleasant weekend rides
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:51:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <s9ei5f4@zola.esd.sgi.com> cj@sgi.com (C J Silverio) writes:
>---
>Besides Skyline, where do you all ride on weekends?  Where
>are those cool roads?
>
>I'm looking for a fun weekend ride that'll stretch my
>newbie abilities a bit without overwhelming them.  
>

Well, a bunch of us are heading up to the Lake Berryessa area this
coming Sunday morning... Berryessa is north east of Napa... The roads
are very well paved, very few cops, nice sweeping turns, and beautiful
countryside... I don't go up there very often because I have been much 
too busy recently, but this should be a fun ride... A bunch of people
from my department on campus (materials science) and some friends who
work at the Bison Brewing Co. will be going... Anyone who wants to go
should meet us at Bette's Oceanview Diner in Berkeley... We meet for
breakfast at 8am, and will be leaving at 9am sharp...

-uncle dan
From: dsm40@mcode.amdahl.com (Diana St.Martin)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CAL Proof of Insurance
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:29:41 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Amdahl Corporation - Macrocode Development

In article <1992Nov5.181217.10765@netcom.com>, dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka) writes:
> In article <Bx86Ho.Kpr@well.sf.ca.us> fgiraffe@well.sf.ca.us (Frank Giraffe) writes:
> >
>
>   Well, how's this for a data point: the DMV won't even let you take
> your riding exam without proof of insurance.

True, but unless Sacramento wwent and changed the law again, there is no 
carry proof of insurance while riding.  That quit a couple of years ago.

Diana
From: mspencer@apple.com (Mark Spencer)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Zoom/Hole Shot/Metz
Date: 13 Nov 92 21:41:38 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
X-XXDate: Fri, 13 Nov 92 13:46:57 GMT

Well, thanks to a slightly underinflated front tire and a strong desire
to do CLASS whilst still full of turkey and stuffing, I found myself this
week in need of new tires. Following the net advise I've seen, I headed
down to Zoom on El Camino for a set of Metzelers. The guy there was very
helpful, I got 10% off for buying 2, and they even drove the tires down
to Hole Shot for me (as I was alone and on my bike).

At Hole Shot (just a few blocks away) Bob's helper immediately went to
work on my bike while I idled away the time by walking back to Zoom  to
look around (and blowing a wad on a new helmet in the process!!).

Aside from a small mishap of mounting my rear tire backwards (which they
noticed before reassembly), everything went smoothly and I was on my way
in about 1 1/2 hours. Labor = $55. The tires ran about $260 (ME33 CompK
front, ME55 rear, 17" both).

Many thanks to the net posters, especially ba.moto...now I've got a whole
weekend ahead of me to break them in! (where to go, where to go....)
From: robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Corbin seats
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:04:31 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu
Originator: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU

So now I am very happy with my Seca 400.  Unfortunately, the vinyl on 
the seat is starting to come apart.  I could get it recovered (does anyone
have any recommendations for places that do good work?), but I've been
thinking it might be nice to have a Corbin seat.  So, a few questions:

  How much do they cost?

  Are they worth it?

  Am I stupid to even consider spending that much money on a seat for a 
    bike that cost me $500?

  How do you go about getting one?  (I checked a bike mag for ads, but came
    up empty.)

Thanks.


-- 
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Michael Robinson                          UUCP:   ucbvax!cogsci!robinson
                                        INTERNET: robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu
From: max@queernet.org (Max J. Rochlin)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Corbin seats
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:12:10 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: QueerNet

In article <1df87fINN28p@agate.berkeley.edu> robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu (Michael Robinson) writes:

>  How much do they cost?

About 200 - 300 depending on the options.


>  Are they worth it?

It's fabulous.  The Stock Hawk seat was worthless on longer ( 3+ hr) trips.

>  Am I stupid to even consider spending that much money on a seat for a 
>    bike that cost me $500?

It's up to you.  How much time are you going to be riding?  Would
you ride more if your seat was more comfortable?   etc.

>  How do you go about getting one?  (I checked a bike mag for ads, but came
>    up empty.)

You can ride down and have one customized to your butt if you're willing
to drive down just past Monteray, or you can have Cycle Gear order
it for you.  Ordered seats take 7 - 14 days to come in.

...Max

-- 
|  max@queernet.org  |   Max J. Rochlin   |
+-----------------------------------------+
| November 7, 1989  The Berlin wall fell. |
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: Concord Kawasaki
Originator: markk@sparcplug
Reply-To: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:03:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.183927.26529@novell.com>, Mark S. Burnham <markb@wc writes:
>Little report about these guys...
>
>I took my bike in for routine service a few weeks ago (valve check etc.)
>and the bike ran really well afterward.  The other day,  I took off
>the lower fairing and noticed that they had replaced one of the fairing
>bolts (hex) with a large Phillips head screw.  They also replaced the
>plastic "grommet" with a little plastic washer that really didn't fit 
>very well.
[...]
>BTW, they also adjusted the idle too high (1500, should be 1000).  I
>know this is a little thing, but they're a Kawasaki *dealer*!  They 
>should know about these things!

Beats Diablo Kawasaki in Walnut Creek.  I took my Ninja to them to
have the carbs cleaned when a float valve stuck.  It took them two
weeks to do the work ("The guy who's working on it's sick").  As I got
on the bike when I picked it up the service manager shouts over to me
saying "It's got a little hesitation you might want to change the
plugs".  It had a HUGE hesitation which is the result of incorrect
carb tune - not plugs.  Not only that, but it was idleing at 500 rpm
(should be 1000).  There is no excuse for allowing this kind of shoody
work to leave the shop.  I could have returned the bike, but I decided
to fix it myself like I should have in the first place and not to let
any other so called mechanic touch my bikes in the future.  I have
little faith in the quality of most professional motorcycle mechanics
since my experience with motorcycle repair shops has been 75% bad.

--
)V(ark)<               markk@tcs.com                   DoD #400
1988 FZR400            1985 ZX900 Ninja             1977 RD400D
            TCSI Berkeley, CA USA  (510) 649-3781
From: leighann@rocky.sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Minor Bison Bummer
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:30:33 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Sybase, Inc., Emeryville, CA

Well, my sincere apologies to anybody who showed up last night to the Bison
and found us not there -- actually, I was there looking out for anybody who
might look vaguely DoDish, but everybody there looks vaguely DoDish so ...

Anyway, here's the scoop: somehow, through a series of minor snafus, Annwn
wasn't booked last night.  There was a bit of wrangling over whether it
would be us or another substitute band who'd get the gig last night, and we
bowed gracefully out in favor of an absolutely certain gig in December.
This is cool, because it means it'll be a Saturday night, and also that our
errant guest guitarist will be back from Germany, so there'll be three of
us making even better noises.

So, mark your calendars, and I'll remind the net closer to the date, but
"This time for sure!" ("But that trick never works."):

Saturday, 12 December, 9pm, Annwn plays Bison.

Cheers,
	- Leigh Ann

----------------
Leigh Ann Hussey  
leighann@sybase.com           {sun,lll-tis,pyramid,pacbell}!sybase!leighann
DoD#5913                  AMA#624549                    AWRRA#23 (skidoo!)
'74 Honda CB360 "Fyrdraka"   			'81 Yamaha Maxim650 "Elhaz"
"I do not trust thee, Cage from Hell, / The reason why I cannot tell, /
But this I know, and know full well: / I do not trust thee, Cage from Hell."
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: whitaker@netcom.com (Brad Whitaker)
Subject: Re: Corbin seats
Organization: No Chance
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 21:44:24 GMT

In article <trc.721331281@uludag.NSD.3Com.COM> trc@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Conroy) writes:
>robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu (Michael Robinson) writes:
>Call (800) 538-7035 and tell the nice lady you would like a catalog.

But don't hold your breath if you try this. I'm still waiting for the catalog
I ordered in early May. I only followed this request once, about 3 weeks
later, and was told that they don't send them out very frequently, but they
would eventually send it. I guess I don't really need it now since I went
ahead and bought a seat, Roadmaster boots, and ordered a set of Krausers
from them.

ObCorbinBash: the Krauser luggage that I ordered on June 3, 1992 still
hasn't arrived. :(

Brad Whitaker   whitaker@netcom.com    (510)528-9478   DoD 1000   CBR 1000

"It's not very factual on motorcycles, either." -- Robert Pirsig, from the 
Author's Note to ZAMM, but he could just as easily have been talking about 
rec.motorcycles.
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Anybody have there bike wired?
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:36:40 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

kron@netcom.com (Kenneth Kron) writes:

>I was talking to a buddy of mine who suggested I get my bike "wired"
>(get the major bolts and screws drilled and wire inserted that
>wont allow anything to "fall off" without removing the wire first).
> 
> Anybody know anyting about this?
>  
Racing organizations require bikes to be safety wired, but I can't really
see the need for a street bike.  If you're really concerned about parts
falling off, I'd suggest buying a torque wrench to verify that all the 
bolts on your bike are tightened the correct amount.  If you still want
details on how to safety wire your bike, however, post a query in
rec.motorcycles.racing.
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: dave@s1.gov (Dave Wright)
Subject: Looking for a FZR600
Originator: dave@s1.gov
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:54:50 GMT



I am looking for a used FZR600.  I was curious as to how much to 
excpect to pay for a used bike and in what condition as well.
I live in the East Bay Area.

 
    Dave Wright
    dave@s1.gov
    CBR1000F DoD#0568
Xref: sparky ba.motorcycles:751 rec.motorcycles:38557
From: bender@oobleck (Duke of Canterbury)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: *FOR SALE* NX-650 DP bike
Date: 7 Nov 92 19:09:23 GMT
Reply-To: bender@oobleck.eng.sun.com
Distribution: ca
Organization: SPARK's R US
NNTP-Posting-Host: oobleck
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

I'm selling my Honda 1989 NX-650 DP bike.  It's got 9800 miles, mostly hiway
miles, I've never been off road other than to park on grass :-), and the NX
is in great shape.  Comes with Chase Harper tank bag that I have mounted to
the rear luggage rack.  The NX is a great UAV (Urban Assault Vehicle) and
I've had great fun with it in the city.  I'm asking $2500 O.B.O. and can ride
it to show it almost anywhere in the greater Bay area (I love riding).

mike
415-863-8913 (home)
415-336-6353 (work)
bender@oobleck.eng.sun.com

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 mike bender  DOD# 007  for sale: NX-650 & VT110 Shadow	415-863-8913 (home)
	cheap advertising -->	$2500/obo    $2500/obo
 bender@oobleck.eng.sun.com    nothin' witty here	415-336-6353 (work)
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From: delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Can I beat this ticket?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 07:19:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

The situation: I'm on a side street where it interesects a main road. The sign
says right turn only (ie. onto the main road) but I go straight. A cop
observed this and ticketed me. He probably was right behind me when I did
it (mirrors were busted that day). I can't claim I didn't do it or that he
did'nt see it because neither is true. (I know why should that stop me?)

What makes me think I can beat it?
I think I remember reading in "fight your ticket" that any errors in the
ticket are cause for dismissal. My case has three errors: 1) On the ticket
he wrote that my bike was black, it is blue to blue-green metallic.    
2) On the ticket he wrote my eye color was hazel, it's blue as it says on
my license (I know it's stupid, but still an extra error.  3) on the so-called
"courtesy" notice they sent me in the mail, they have my license plate number
slightly wrong, they turned the "Y" in it into a "4"

Is this a reason to beat it? What does one do? Do you just walk into
court and say "there are errors, please dismiss this" Would they try and
challenge this? Court kinda of intimidates me and I'm unsure how to approach 
it.

When the occifer wrote the ticket he said it was a municipal ordinance that was violated (as opposed to california vehicle code I guess) and that it would
not go on my driving record. Has anyone ever heard of such a thing?

I know, I know- why am I trying to beat it when I did the crime- 'Cause I
got one a few months back that I didn't do (failure to come to complete
stop at sign- said he knew because my foot never went down.) I just
did traffic school for that one. I figure beating this one would make
us even.

Any advice appreciated,


-- 
Lisa DeLorme                            
delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu           
DOD #363/ 80 KZ250, (mouse bike), 82 KZ440
                     Hey, I'm finally an acronym: DBNI  (Double bike, no income)
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Lane-splitting in the Bay Area
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:30:28 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:

>In article <1992Oct28.183112.7048@netcom.com> bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan) 
>writes:
>>
>>technically be changing lanes more often than the legal limit (once every
>>100 yards).

>There's a legal limit on how often you can change lanes?  Do you know the
>statute number? 

I can't find any reference to how often you can change lanes in my Vehicle Code.
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: CAL Proof of Insurance
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:12:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.181217.10765@netcom.com> dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka) writes:
>In article <Bx86Ho.Kpr@well.sf.ca.us> fgiraffe@well.sf.ca.us (Frank Giraffe) writes:
>>
>>My insurance agent told me today that California motorcyclists do not have
>>to carry proof of insurance. Huh?...
>
>  Is this some sort of test?

If it is, his insurance agent passed.

>  If not, what else does your insurance agent sell?
>  Does he have a phone number for claims that starts with 01154?
>  Well, how's this for a data point: the DMV won't even let you take
>your riding exam without proof of insurance.

How's this for the real data point: YOU do not have to be insured yourself
to take the test. The vehicle you use to take the test must be insured. Ergo,
you may borrow someone else's insured vehicle in order to take your tests,
without yourself being insured (or even owning a vehicle).

>  What did Ed say on rec.moto about helmet laws and pigs?

Dunno, but it doesn't sound relevant.

>  No, no, _flying_ pigs...

Ah, that's very different then.

News alert: the law requiring ALL motorists to carry proof of insurance was
repealed a couple years ago, pending insurance reform (yeah, sure) that 
would enable the poor to afford insurance. 

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do.
From: sjk@netcom.com (Shel Kaphan)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: need shop recommendation in Santa Cruz
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:40:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I have a '86 Yamaha FZ 750 which was recovered after having been
stolen from my house, and needs repairs (gouged out ignition switch...
and it needs to be serviced anyway).  Any recommendations on
competent non-ripoff shops in Santa Cruz or short distance from there?
From: efk00@cd.amdahl.com (Eddie Kieger)
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
Subject: Re: IS IT POSSIBLE??
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:08:56 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Nov10.211638.21876@oracle.us.oracle.com>,
rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers) writes:
>
>dschlot@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Dave Schlotthauer) writes:
>
>>Is it possible? Could it be true? I know it's hard to believe, but
>are
>>cagers even more STUPID on Mondays? 
>
>I think the derogatory tone is quite unnecessary.

Maybe after you've almost been killed a number of times by STUPID 
PEOPLE, you would say it too!!! As a matter of fact, I vote for 
FUXKING STUPID!!!!!
>
>I drive a 'cage' - a pickup with shell and very little visbility in the
>many blind spots - and I have no problems.

Me too, when the MC is not appropriate (ever try to carry plywood???)
>
>I see a lot of motorcyclists weaving through traffic, driving with one
>hand, lane-cutting, and see no correlation between vehicle-of-choice and
>intelligence, never mind vehicle-of-choice and courtesy.

FUXKING STUPID idiots on both sides, agreed.
>
>And, yes, I have the equivalent of four times around the planet commuting
>in the Bay Area through winter rains and summer heat on various bikes.
>
>Yes, people are less aware on Mondays. Prepare for it and drive carefully.

Amen!!!!!!!!

Eddie
Newsgroups: ba.motorcycles
From: pat@wrs.com (Patrick Boylan)
Subject: Re: Can I beat this ticket?
Reply-To: pat@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems
Distribution: ba
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 19:35:23 GMT

delorme@garnet.berkeley.edu (Lisa DeLorme) writes:

>The situation: I'm on a side street where it interesects a main road. The sign
>says right turn only (ie. onto the main road) but I go straight. A cop
>observed this and ticketed me. He probably was right behind me when I did
>it (mirrors were busted that day). I can't claim I didn't do it or that he
>did'nt see it because neither is true. (I know why should that stop me?)

>What makes me think I can beat it?
>I think I remember reading in "fight your ticket" that any errors in the
>ticket are cause for dismissal. My case has three errors: 1) On the ticket
>he wrote that my bike was black, it is blue to blue-green metallic.    
>2) On the ticket he wrote my eye color was hazel, it's blue as it says on
>my license (I know it's stupid, but still an extra error.  3) on the so-called
>"courtesy" notice they sent me in the mail, they have my license plate number
>slightly wrong, they turned the "Y" in it into a "4"

>Is this a reason to beat it? What does one do? Do you just walk into
>court and say "there are errors, please dismiss this" Would they try and
>challenge this? Court kinda of intimidates me and I'm unsure how to approach 
>it.

Lisa,

I think you should fight it for a few reasons.
1) You do not qualify for traffic school since you went through that recently.
   Normally you give up your option of traffic school by fighting the ticket. 
   So, unless you have a good chance of winning it's probably not worth trying 
   if you qualify for traffic school.  You do not so you are not losing 
   anything by trying.
2) You have a reason to complain.  True it might not be good, but you have a 
   reason.  This is important.
3) The officer might not show up for court.

I suggest that you call the police station a few times to find out which is 
his day off, and then reschedule the court date until you get that day.
You can reschedule three times I think.

Go in prepared to complain about the inconsistency of the ticket.  Add that 
the main reason that you are there is that you do not have that much money
and cannot afford a large fine.  This is the main reason that you are riding 
a motorcycle, right?  You cannot afford to drive a car.

Even if the cop shows up, usually the judge will reduce the fine (about half) 
if this is the case.

So, ideally the cop will not show, especially if you do your homework.

Alternatively if he does show, complain that you cannot agree to the ticket 
because the ticket is not right.  You weren't on a black motorcyle with that 
registration number.  

Add that you are on a very tight budget and can't afford a large fine, and 
that's the main reason you are riding a motorcyle.

Good luck,
Patrick
-- 
 Patrick Boylan, Consulting Engineer, FAE Asia/Pacific
 Wind River Systems
 1010 Atlantic Ave. Alameda, CA  94501
 email: pat@wrs.com   tel: (510)748-4100   fax: (510)814-2010