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From: tyoung@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tony Young)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Hi, Long Beach folks
Date: 7 Nov 92 23:46:53 GMT
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii

I am looking for a friend, Miss Liao, Jian.  She is MBA student at UC
Long Beach.  I lost her phone number.  If you know her, could you please
email to me her phone number or let her know that I need to talk to her.
Thank you.

Tony Young
808-956-6796/545-2919 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zeng@IASTATE.EDU (Shaohui Zeng)
Subject: Re: Anniversary for the Halloween Tragedy in University of Iowa
Reply-To: zeng@IASTATE.EDU (Shaohui Zeng)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:01:02 GMT

But there are really some American stereotype Chinese in that way. I can feel
that While I was looking for a job. I can see the fear in Americans' eyes. I 
was always turned down politely. The reasons they gave me for not hiring me
were
irrelavent. Something like "overqualify". I know what they care was just I am a
Chinese. Sometimes they declined me even before read my resume.

In article <1992Nov9.123054.27752@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha) writes:
> I disagree that the Chinese students in the US have been stereotyped
> as all potential "terrorists". The American public is so used to these
> types of tragedies that the fact that that time it was a Chinese student is
> largely irrelevant. I think you're being a little paranoid. I bet if you
> did a survey thruout the whole country, more than 80% of Americans would
> be totally ignorant of the entire incident, never mind recall the fact
> that the murderer/suicide was from the PRC.
> 
> Mark
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: dh5m@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Donghai  Huangfu)
Subject: Re: Shame on you, godless Chinese!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:09:32 GMT


It was told that the total amount of Christians is around 60 million
in China (mainland). Is She a No. 1 country?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mlibucha@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Libucha)
Subject: Re: Voting Rights
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 12:46:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.035712.7089@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Fan Yu) writes:
>In article <9211060307.AA03781@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu> phsjjc@unix.cc.emory.edu (James J. Cen) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov5.185048.17156@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> yu@physun.physics.
>>mcmaster.ca (Fan Yu) writes:
>>
>>>Who have voting rights in the US? Can people who have green cards
>>>vote in US elections?
>>
>>	Only citizens can vote.  People with green cards have NO voting rights,
>>Although they enjoy all other rights (and pay taxes) like voting citizens.  
>>There are talks of reform in this regard in some states with large recent
>>immigrant populations, for example, California.
>>
>
>I think permanent resident who have real-estate investment in Ontario
>are allowed to vote in the local elections. And they can voice their
>concern to the local government. Seems more democratic than US, eh?

A lot of people who get green cards in the US never intend to become
US citizens. They don't have all the duties (like joining the armed forces
if drafted), and they have not declared their allegiance to the US, so
why should they choose its leaders? I don't think it has anything to do
with democracy.

Mark
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:30418 soc.culture.taiwan:15323 soc.culture.hongkong:14357
From: mte152s@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: DATA: Asia Military compared
Date: 14 Nov 92 11:02:59 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

================================================================================
Top Guns and Men at Arms in 1991 in Asia
Source: AsiaWeek, November 13, 1992
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Country	Defence		Change		% of GDP	Total Forces	Pop
	Spending	from 1990			(000 persons)	million
	(US$ million)
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Japan	$32,680		+2.5%		1.0%		246		123.8
China	$11,850		+13.3%		3.2%		3,030		1152.5
SKorea	$10,770		-4.2%		3.8%		633		43.2
Taiwan	$9,290		+3.2%		5.4%		300,000		20.6
India	$8,070		-6.1%		2.9%		1,265		845.7
N.Korea	$5,450		-2.0%		26.7%		1,132
S'pore	$3,681		+15.6%		5.4%				2.6
Pakist	$3,230		+7.6%		7.0%		580		115.6
Thailnd	$2,400		N/A		2.5%		283		56.3
Vietnam	$2,320		+10.0%		16.6%		857		69.0
Malasia	$1,720		+7.3%		3.7%				18.1
Indonsa	$1,550		-2.1%		1.3%		283		182.0
Burma	$1,060		-11.0%		4.2%		286		42.6
Phillpn	$987		-4.0%		2.2%				63
Bangldsh$303		-6.8%		1.3%				115.6
================================================================================
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
From: xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li)
Subject: Re: Chinese, Are You Jealous?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 02:16:59 GMT

In article <Bx9B3v.BzE@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> bihkyan@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Yang Yuanxin) writes:

>  Tell you the non-Chinese, I did had voting right when I was in China!
>You D-fighters forget the right, you only want to fight!
>  Shame on you! the non-Chinese Li Xiaolin! 

Tell me your definition of non-Chinese? I listened to the CBS that
"it is un-American not to vote". If according to this definition,
you are non-Chinese too. Because I have not heard your story to vote
for Chinese President.

So shame on you too! The un-Chinese Yang Yuanxin!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (achen)
Subject: Re: [week] when does a week start
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 17:17:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.104414.15300@u.washington.edu> chuan@stein.u.washington.edu (Chuan Lee) writes:
>In article <!dA=+C+@engin.umich.edu> hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang) writes:
>>
>>(3) Chinese officals don't like the idea of Christanity.
>     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>But I thought the Bible says that God rested AFTER he created what-have-you
                                       ^^^^^^
>on the previous 6 days.  


Thus proving that the Christian "God" is not all mighty since
an omnipotent God would not need to rest.

American children are taught these days the phrase
     "Just say NO!"  when drug dealers approach them.

Similiarly, Chinese students and scholars should ...

     "JUST SAY NO!"

when approached by Christian missionaries.



Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:30103 talk.politics.china:2628
From: pi@spica.bu.edu (GARMARHARD)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: Extreme naivety and egocentricism among us
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:00:22 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: Yang Zi Riverside
In-reply-to: yfeng@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu's message of 10 Nov 92 00:22:56 GMT

In article <1dmvd0INNhfj@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu> yfeng@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu (Jeffrey Feng) writes:

* Contemporary Chinese people, in general, have been losing their 
  morality.

  The most typical example: if one guy rushes to a bus in order to get on 
  first, regardless tens of others waiting on the line, the others will
  all rush to the bus too if they are Chinese. (What Would other people
  do if they are not Chinese?) This happens almost everywhere, such as
  restaurants, theaters, shopping places, ...you name it.

  Another typical example: Chinese people care about very little public 
  environment. No matter which city you go, the most smell and dirty area 
  is ...you name it. 

  ...

  Most of SCCers sufferd from this infection so that it should not be
  a surprise that their posters reflect this sickness. It would be
  a big surprise if their posters did not reflect this sickness.

* "Well educated"? Most of SCCers may have got good edcation in science,
   engineering, economy, ... but certainly not in morality.

* Green card issue very possibly involve political plot, though some
  people may have been very naive about this. Do you believe that
  Shannon Yeh himself stands for what he has been shouting? If most
  of SCCers do not doubt Shannon Yeh's motive, they are not only
  sick in morality, but also lack of intelligence.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
From: jsxie@eng.umd.edu (Jingshong Xie)
Subject: Re: Some questions. (Re: Be a respectable Chinese.  Zi Zun, Zi Ai.)
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:29:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.165030.3511@wam.umd.edu> shicheng@wam.umd.edu (Shicheng Jiang) writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.192056.8944@src.umd.edu>,jsxie@eng.umd.edu (Jingshong Xie)
>writes:
>>
>>shicheng@wam.umd.edu (Shicheng Jiang) writes:
>>>
>>>posting I said in this universe there is only one Judge, who is God. 10,000
>>>years later, the concepts of US government and Chinese government will be
>>>meaningless. But human rights, righteousness and peace are forever.
>>>
>>
>>Which God you believe ? God of Christian? Buddhist not just trust human right,
>>they trust existence right.And, does it mention the term "human right" in
>>Bible? It shouldn't be,otherwise how to explain the Crusade, selling slave
>>to America, ravaging native American Indian... (Not to mention what happen
>>in China this 150 years) 
>>
>>Try to open your mind.Maybe after only 200 years, the man-made more-perfect-
>>than-human-brain artificially intellegent product will come out. So, the
>>term "human right" will become nonsense again.
>>
>>You see, no principle is perfect to be a principle.
>>
>>Jingshong Xie
>>
>This argument hears like Mr. Yuan Mu's. No wonder Chinese authority does not
>respect its citizens, because some of its citizens do not think they need to
>be respected, they think they are equal to computers. Totally tasteless.
>
>Anyway, Mr. Jingshong Xie does believe in materialism, so do most Chinese.
>That's due to their education provided by CCP and Confucius culture.
>
>There is an old saying reads:
>
>          Ren2 Zhe3 Jian4 Ren2,
>          Zhi4 Zhe3 Jian4 Zhi4.
>
>(By the way, how to translate this into English? Any netter knows please tell
>me. Thank you in advance.)
>
>So, Da4 Jia1 Hao3 Zi4 Wei2 Zhi1.
>
>
>--Shicheng
>

Don't describe someone else you don't know according to your steorotype.What I
tried to say is not more than 2 things:

1.Human right is not related to God,at some point,they are opposite.
2.I just didn't like what you stated ,"10,000 years later,...are forever".I
  feel funny to look at this kind of statement.It is not better than "Mao2
  Zhu3 Xi2 Wan4 Shou4 Wu2 Jiang1".

BTW,human brain is a bio-super-parallel-computer which basicly consists of
about 1 trillions neutrons,maybe the most complex thing in this universe .

Having fun,Shicheng.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: chungdan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Zhong Qi Iao (Daniel))
Subject: [week] when does a week start
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 01:14:35 GMT

     [Temas pri la komenco de la semajno.]

     Most people think that a week starts on Sunday, right?  They
look at their wall calendars from China and England and the U.S.A. and
say ah! it must start on Sunday.  But it actually starts on Monday.
How come China is so slow in knowing it and changing its calendars?

					*Zhong* Qi-Iao (Mr.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: wlin@byron.u.washington.edu (Wei Lin ~{AVgb~})
Subject: [Info] Table of Contents, HXWZ #84
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:47:17 GMT

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From: li@neutrino.rutgers.edu (Ye Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Have fun?
Date: 6 Nov 92 05:35:10 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Yes, lots of fun watching here.

	I see many well qualified entertainers in this group.
From: color93@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: SEEKING BEIDA CLASSMATES
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:26:04 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

	I AM SEEKING CLASSMATES FROM PEKING UNIVERSITY, DEPARTMENT OF 
    CHEMISTRY.   
	I AM YOUSONG WANG.
	HOME PHONE  (913)864-8052
	HOME ADDRESS    1603W.15TH ST. 412A, LAWRENCE, KS66044
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: What is the different? (not about beer & wine) 
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: na 
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:36:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.205039.10723@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca> yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Fan Yu) writes:
[......] 
>
>You are welcome to come to Canada(at least Ontario) and get drunk *legally*!

There are also some(few) states in the US allows you to drink at 18, or 19.  
>
[......] 
>
>Fan
>
From: jim@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: HELP
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:20:21 +1100
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <1992Nov6.024914.4535@mcshub.dcss.mcmaster.ca>, yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Fan Yu) writes:
> In article <05NOV92.23323072.0072@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> S13Y000 <S13Y@UNB.CA> writes:
>>
>>Hi there,
>>
>>Is any one know how to post E-mail to China?
>>
> 
> Just post here!
> 
> Fan
> 
Maybe should to Post Office?

Jim
From: pi@spica.bu.edu (GARMARHARD)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: The capital city is to be changed
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:28:53 GMT
Organization: Yangtz Riverside
Originator: pi@spica.bu.edu

* Everyone (mainlanders) knows that Beijing city grows larger and larger.
  For construction part, much more money (collected from the whole 
  country) has been spent on Beijing alone than on any other cities, 
  paherps more than the sum of the money put on the other sities (anyone 
  can comfirm this?). If this only included government buildings, 
  the People's Great Hall, ... then it would be understandable. 
  The problem is the money has been spent on everything, including the 
  residents' apartment buildings, roads, subways, stores, street lights, 
  public restrooms, libraries, telephone services, ... garbage centers, 
  ... EVERYTHING.

* Let's call this phenomenon Collect Whole Spend One (CWSO).
  Let's put the question of whether it is fare to spend the whole country's 
  money (construction part) on the capital city alone aside. The immediate
  results of CWSO are: 

	1) The city becomes larger and larger in population. Every 
	   CORNER in the city becomes crowdy and crowdy.
	2) Transportation becomes extremely tough. Millions of people
	   get into/out the city every day, by air, train, bus, bike,
 	   ... horse, mule ...
	3) Due to the extreme unbalanced development of China, Most of 
	   international events, such as Asian Games, ...have to be held 
	   in Beijing. Otherwise Chinese will lose face as foreigners get 
	   excited when they find out some Chinese girls in the other 
	   cities and provinces do not have cloths to wear (I exaggerated 
	   here, but it does not hurt the bottom line).
	4) More money need to be spent to improve the conditions which
	   become worse due to 1), 2) & 3).
	...

* Considering CWSO can not be changed by CG, and current reform goes
  unbalancedly too, my suggestion and conclusion is:

	The best way to rather uniformly develop China is 
	to change the capital city once in 5 years.

* I will appreciate if someone can present this to the excutive committee 
  of the Chinese People's Congress.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: hlu@eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Subject: Re: Election (Chinese, Are you jealous?)
Organization: School of EECS, Washington State University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 22:46:16 GMT

In article <BxD3MB.GEH@cs.psu.edu>, echeng@phys.psu.edu (Eddie Cheng) writes:
|> In article <lfm2ssINNk9r@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
|> >
|> >Under CCP ruling in current China, people's republic is a CCP kingdom. 
|> >People have no right to vote out a bad guy like Deng, Li and Yang.
|> 
|> 	"People" still can, at least in principle.  It is just that 
|> the voting system in China has made it practically almost impossible.
|> But it did happen.  For example, Deng Liqun and a few other very high
|> level officials had suffered humiliating election losses.
|> 
|> 
|> 	 Eddie

That may be because Deng doesn't like them. Yes, we have a very good
legel system since it put "Gang of Four" on trial.

H.J.
From: usys@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CLARENCE J MAZIARZ JR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Refugee, America, Chinese
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:32:38 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

In article <92315.0931053066211@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> <3066211@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>     Recently I see many people talk about refugee. It seems most of them think
>that "refugee" is a bad word, particularly some of them even think they could
>humiliate others by calling them "refugee". I find this is very funny. This
>is not "American" at all. Read history, you will know America is a country of
>refugees. Most of American's ancesters were either political, religious or even
>simply economic refugees when they came to America. Or you may simply read the
>words on the Statues of Liberty. If some Chinese people become refugees, that's
>fine. That's simply one way to join Americans.
>
>    Chinese, don't be treated by the literal Chinese translation of the word
>
>"refugee".

Why don't you say prostitutes are hard-working people and deserve your 
respect?   
You are really beautiful, man.

Nowadays, people on SCC tend to    Xiao4  Pin2  Bu  Xiao  Chang4.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: phsj@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Su Jianfeng)
Subject: Re: Shame on you, godless Chinese!
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 01:44:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.044613.13109@wam.umd.edu> shicheng@wam.umd.edu (Shicheng Jiang) writes:

Why don't you jump into a river and then ask who is your God ?


J Su  

>Shame on you, godless Chinese!
>
>When you do NOT have God in your heart,
>
>	you think Mao Zedong your God;
>        you think Deng Xiaoping your God;
>        you think CCP your God;
>        you think KMT your God;
>        you think China your God;
>        you think the 5000-year-history your God;
>        you think Confucius your God;
>        you think your family your God;
>        you think yourself your God;
>        you think your ancestor your God;
>        you think your brother your God;
>        you think your wife your God;
>        you think your son your God;
>        you think your girlfriend your God;
>        you think your friend your God;
>        you think money your God;
>        you think your job your God;
>        you think your Ph.D. degree your God;
>        you think your knowledge your God;
>        you think America your God;
>        you think IFCSS your God;
>        you think MFN your God;
>        you think democracy your God;
>        you think economy your God;
>        you think greencard your God;
>        you think your computer your God;
>        you think your body your God;
>        you think garbage your God;
>        you think Godlessness your God.
>
>Shame on you, godless Chinese!


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yan@mercury.cs.uregina.ca (Yongfei Yan)
Subject: Re: No subject in particular
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 03:32:55 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, SK, Canada

HI,

	I have been in many news groups. I found this is the dirtiest group
	I have ever seen. I really don't like to see foul-mouthed people in
	this public network.


	John
From: W_XIAO@unhh.unh.edu (Wei   Xiao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Looking for Internet site(s) storing CHINESE songs!
Date: 8 Nov 1992 22:17:49 GMT
Organization: E.E. Dept., U.of New Hampshire
Distribution: WORLD
NNTP-Posting-Host: unhh.unh.edu
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

Hi:
I am wondering if there is any  people out there who has knowledge of the
chinese songs stored on Internet sites(Anonymous FTP).

I remember there was a similar article posted on HXWZ. But unfortunately
I lost track of it.

If you are willing to share this info. with me, please respond to my
personal Email account.

Thanks in advance.




~{P$N@~} , ~{C@9zPB:92<J26z4sQ'5gWS9$3LO5~}.
Wei Xiao(pronounced Weir Shaw), E.E. Dept., Univ. of New Hampshire
Office: Kingsbury Hall, Rm. 266
Voice:  (603)862-3287
Email: Internet w_xiao@unhh.unh.edu
From: yfeng@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu (Jeffrey Feng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Extreme naivety and egocentricism among us
Date: 10 Nov 1992 15:19:10 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: tssmed.hsc.usc.edu

>In article <lg02reINNqqf@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>>
>>These symptons [are] rarely happen in current Taiwan. But, in mainland of
>>China, people seem to have become another race.
>

You cannot arbitrarily say that people in the mainland 'have become another
race', but rather people in Taiwan have changed for the better. People's
manners depend on mainly on four factors: economic status, level of education,
density of population, and social norms and traditions. Of these factors,
education and economic status are very crucial. You rarely see a beggar with
good manners. So the differences in behavior between the people of the  
mainland and those of Taiwan have resulted from social and economic changes
rather than from innateness.

[are] should be omitted.