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From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Chinese Running Dog
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 19:59:58 GMT

In article <Bzo0q1.5sK@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
>In article <1h6ph5INNd91@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato) writes:
>>
>>In article <2B33AF4A.14932@news.service.uci.edu>, ygu@eve.eng.uci.edu (Yifan Gu) writes:
>>
>>|> No, running dogs are chinese people who serve the interests of their foreign
>>
>>No, running dogs are those who serve for their own self-interests and betray
>>the interests of others fellow countrymen.
>>
>I think this definition isn't very accurate. And seems almost all the
>CCP Gao Gang will be covered under it.
>
>Tingli Pan   
>>Lin Can
There is no room for argument about the definition of "running dog". That
was a phenomena among among Chinese since late last centry.
Someboudy(running dog) is trying to twist to definition to be off the hood.
>>
>
>


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yang@milton.cs.uiuc.edu (Der-Shung Yang)
Subject: Re: Newwer China
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:55:14 GMT

cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:

>In article <1992Dec29.203145.13153@topaz.ucq.edu.au> huangz@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
>>2. The first privately run TV station in China will open in 1 January 1993.
>>   The Southeast Broacasting Cooperate is based in Fujian, its programs will
>>   be broacasted through satellite Asia-I, and can be received all around 
>>   south-east Asia. 
>>
>>      -- Long live SBC!
>Chinese movies are not going to be monoplied the the Government. Movie makers
>are going to be on their own finacially, which will lead to free expression
>in movie industry in China.
>chunde

Doesn't the govn't still have the censorship on the programs?  Financial
independence is certainly good, but I think there's still a long way to go
before a real "free expression" comes true. 

--
DerShung Yang    
yang@cs.uiuc.edu 
Beckman Institute
Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:33536 soc.culture.taiwan:16564 soc.culture.korean:6680 soc.culture.japan:12868
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Hus Fu and the Japanese
Date: 25 Dec 1992 02:26:58 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec24.195501.11442@news.acns.nwu.edu> phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
>In article <1hbcbgINNmou@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>>I don't understand what the fuss is about.  It's obvious to anyone that the
>>Japanese are predominantly of East Asian descent, not Polynesian or 
>>Caucasian.  Japanese assert their difference from the Chinese because of the
>>difference in linguistics.
>               ^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>This argument is often used.  I have seen one or two articles that
>extrapolate that Japanese brain works differently because of the writing
>system's mix of symbolic characters (kanji) and phonetic characters (kana).
>
>It may be true.  So, I have nothing to argue up to that point.  However,
>what I find interesting is that no one, so far, succeeded in isolating
>Koreans from Japanese in this type of scientific-sounding arguments.  In
>fact, when I read an article like this, I wait for the final twist that
>will shake Koreans off and leave Japanese only at the end.  But it did not
>happen.

Personally, I would be interested in comparative studies of the 
ABC brain vs Hong Kong brain vs Mainland Chinese brain.  As well as the
Japanese American brain vs WASP American brain, with particular emphasis
on the brain of politically right-wing neurologists as the normal brain.
The brain is an ever-changing organ whose synapse connections are constantly
rerouting.  Otherwise, it would be impossible for people to acquire another
language.  But, we see literary figures such as Maxine Hong Kingston....ur,
maybe she's not a good example.  The point is, there are social-climbing
Asian Americans who major in English and do a good job at it.  There are
also white math PhD's who can speak Chinese fluently, making up for their
repulsiveness of character what they do possess in knowledge.
From: kkzz@physics.ubc.ca (Kuan Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Mongolia
Date: 31 Dec 1992 22:54:16 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.ubc.ca

becker@shell.portal.com (CELIA TONY BECKER) writes:

>We descendants of Genghis Khan in the U.S. and East Europe "remember"
>how difficult it has been to live in Caucasian territories after being
>booted out of our original homeland in northwestern China by the imperial
>Chinese.  After you have rejected us so often and murdered our leaders,
>we say that's enough!  Don't even think about conquering Mongolia! 

I see your argument here as pretty funny. I wonder if your above blame
was refering to the chinese (or maybe Manchurian's) conquering of 
Zhunge'er in north of Tienshan. But don't forget that chinese battling
with Zhunge'er over seventy years was mostly to protect outer mongolians,
other descendants of Genghis Khan which were fortunately members of 
Ching Empire at that time, from attacking by different descndants of
Genghis Khan.

Also note that Zhunge'ers remained most dangerous invaders of China 
during Ching dynasty. Chinese drove them out of Tibet for the interests
of Tibetans and drove them out of south of Tienshan for the interests
of Hui people(also decsendants of Genghis Khan, only became Moslems
during Ming dynasty). Let me tell you that we chinese are damn proud
of conquering what we called Tienshan North Route, which later kept
north part of Ching Empire in peace for a hundred years. The affair
between Mongolia and China probably has nothing to do with other
branches of decsendants of Genghis Khan.

KZ
From: ming@acsu.buffalo.edu (Zhi-Hong Ming)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: fun problem No.4: for gamblers
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:09:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB

In article <1992Dec22.200430.10799@ee.rochester.edu> yao@ee.rochester.edu (Meng Yao) writes:
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
>Subject: fun problem No.4: for gamblers
>Summary: 
>Followup-To: 
>Distribution: usa
>Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science
>Keywords: 
>
>The following problem tests how good a gambler you are:
>
>Rule: two gamblers take turns putting quarters on a round table. The
>only restraint is that the quarters can't overlap, completely or partially.
>The quarters don't have to be wholly on the surface of the table, by this
>I mean you can put a quarter on the edge of the table, with part of it in the
>air, as long as it does not fall. As they keep going like this, one of them
>will find that he has no room for his quarter any more when it is his turn,
>then this guy will be the loser, and will lose all the quarters on the table.
>
>Question: If the gamblers throw a coin to decide who is to put the first
>quarter on the talbe, is there any way you can guarantee to win if you
>get the chance to put the first quarter?

Yes, put the first quarter at center of the table. Then follow the oponent's
quarter position, put exactly at the opposite position then you are gaurantee towin, since opponent will be the first to run out of space.


>
>Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

you too.

>
>Meng

ZHM
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.bizarre,misc.test,rec.pets,soc.culture.japan
From: cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton)
Subject: Re: RACIST NINTENDO
Reply-To: cmort@ncoast.org (Christopher Morton)
Organization: North Coast Public Access *NIX, Cleveland, OH
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 21:20:38 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china

As quoted from <1hu394INN357@agate.berkeley.edu> by robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson):

> 
> 
> >Has anyone seen the Nintendo game "Bart v.s. the World"?
> >There are many racist anti-chinese aspects to it.
> >
> 
> 
> Has anyone seen any arcade games?  99% of them have racist aspects to them.
> 
> My favorite is Mortal Kombat, where Sub-Zero can rip his opponent's heads off
> with the spine still attached...or that Bruce Lee guy can fly around like
> a monkey & kick his opponents 3 stories into the air.
> 
Are you implying that Chugokujin CAN'T fly and kick opponents 3 stories in the
air?  Sounds like ethnocentrism and jealousy to me.... :)
> 
> 


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From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: World Journal
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:34:15 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin


In the late 70's the World Journal was based in Hong Kong and owned by Hong Kong
finance group. The United Daily News of Taiwan took over and then the news 
publication was reorgnized. Instead of reporting Hong Kong news only, the World
Journal expanded to report: world news, Taiwan news, mainland news, Hong Kong
news, and south east Asia Chinese community news. It has published over 40 some
pages since then. In Chinese news publication, it is number one in the US 
Chinese reader market.

Though the owner is a KMT, the WJ apparently has no dedication to KMT. Though
it is emphasized on Taiwan news, it is not a pro-KMT newspaper in general.

Recently, the TIers in Taiwan accused that the United Daily and World Journal
as a message passer of People's Daily. No matter what the accusation was, is
there any basis to say so?  Isn't that funny to say so?  Or TIers just try
to blacken everything that does not work in the same line as TIers want to be?

If WJ is a pro-CCP newspaper, I would think that there is no newspaper in 
Chinese community is a neutral one. What do you think?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:30:00 EST
From: <HXT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject:    Chinese Association of Univ. of Virginia at Commonwealth


I have a friend who will come to Univ. of VA. at commonwealth next month.
So I want to contact Chinese Student Association to know some information
of your university.And I also like to know some addresses &telephone No.
of several chinese students,if possible.
Thank you for your help!
From: chen@haydn.ee.uec.ac.jp (Chen Jie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: The Second Austrilia Satellite Has Been Launched Successively
Date: 22 Dec 92 05:24:43 GMT
Organization: University of Electro-Communications, Chofu, Tokyo, JAPAN


 >From: yfeng@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Yongbing Feng)
 >Just got a phone call from Xichang, the second Austrilian satellite has been
 >launched successively. Congratualation to those scientists and engineers
 >involved in this shuttle. May they have Merry Christmas and Happy New Year!

It is really good news and a good present of new year to all Chinese!
--
____________________________________________________________________________              
               Jie Chen 
	       ITL ( Information Transmission Laboratory )
               Depart. of Electronics
               Univ.   of Electro-Communications 
               Chofu city, Tokyo 182, Japan
               E-mail: chen@mahler.ee.uec.ac.jp
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xinjin@athena.mit.edu (Xinjin Zhao)
Subject:  Chinese-Japanese and Japanese-Chinese Dictionary
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:19:31 GMT

I am looking for a set of good Chinese-Japanese and Japanese-Chinese
dictionaries.  Could somebody out there tell me where I can buy them, either
mail-order or book store?

Please response to this account.  Thank you.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (Daniel Yuen)
Subject: Re: a fun problem
Organization: BHP Steel, Sheet & Coil, Research & Technology Centre
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 03:15:48 GMT

My wavelength is a few days out of sync with you guys since the electrons
on the news system at my site had gone on strike.  I have just posted a
problem under the subject "Another fun problem" which is largely similar
to that asked by Alex Lui earlier.  If there is no correct response, I
shall post the solution after Christmas.

However,

xzhao+@CS.CMU.EDU (Xudong Zhao) writes:

>Better yet, For n>=1,
>
>(3^n)/2 balls, one of them is different in weight. 
>Find it using a balance in n times. 
>
>Figure out if it is heavy or light if there is a standard ball available.
>In n times, of course.

Isn't it a bit theoretical??  How can you divide 3^n by 2 and still have
*whole* balls??  Since it is a theoretical problem, I'll *prove* (NOT show)
that it can be done in a theoretical way :

1. Information needed to figure out the odd ball and know if it's heavier
   or lighter is log2((3^n)/2*2) = n * log2(3) bits
                           where log2 = log with base 2.
2. Maximum information deduced from each weighing = log2(3) bits
3. Thus, nuumber of weighings required to figure out the odd ball (AND know
   if it's heavier or lighter) = n * log2(3) / log2(3) = n
4. In fact, the condition of having a standard ball available can be
   relaxed -- it's not needed.

However, don't ask me HOW to do it.  Say, for n=1 : How do you figure out
the odd ball with just one weighing among the *1.5* balls??

Cheers.

yuen (bhprtc.scpd.oz.au)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: old man cross river
Reply-To: uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 00:05:13 GMT

an old man in his 70s crossed a river without bridge.  the river is wide and
deep. he wears a long scarf. there is a tree at the other side of river.
how come?
W.Huang
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: A situation puzzle
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:36:23 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <BzL2HE.Bq3@nic.umass.edu> s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203) writes:
>
>He is too short to reach the button.

I guess on a raining day, he can reach by his umbrella.

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
From: feng-thomas@cs.yale.edu (Thomas Zuwei Feng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: An Old Arithmatic Problem
Date: 22 Dec 1992 17:34:32 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: giraffe.zoo.cs.yale.edu


(5-(1/5))*5==24.

(3,3,7,7) and (4,4,8,8) are similar.

tfeng
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: sosc1069@wc08.yorku.ca (Ming He)
Subject: Re: The depreciation of RMB
Organization: /writer/sosc/sosc1069/.organization
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:00:24 GMT

### "WL" == Weimin Liu <weimin@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> writes:

WL> If you have read the newspaper, the U.S. Department of Commerce a few weeks
WL> ago accused both the Mainland and Taiwanese Government of manipulating the
WL> currency exchange rate to make their products competitive.  Maybe there is
WL> a grain of truth in it.  Then again, the U.S. has a trade deficit with both
WL> places, and we all know how good they are at blaming others.

WL> IMHO, the true value of a RMB is about $2 USD (that's right, $1 US is about
WL> worth 0.5 RMB), but it may take years to actually get there on the market. 

WL> Weimin (wliu@lando.hns.com)

In my opion, the value of one RMB yuan is around one Canadian dollar.

-- ming

P.S. I think lower value of dometic currency has no few harm to the
dometic economy.  It just prevent import and promote export.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: Re: Another situation puzzle
Reply-To: uphhswh@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:47:25 GMT

In article <BzMICD.J2B@fiu.edu>, stacc0@quantum.fiu.edu (Ye) writes:
>In article <102838@netnews.upenn.edu>, hxie@dps91a.cis.upenn.edu (Hong Liang Xie) writes:
>|> In article <1034@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>|> |> In article <BzL2HE.Bq3@nic.umass.edu> s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203) writes:
>|> |> >
>|> |> >He is too short to reach the button.
>|> |> 
>|> |> I guess on a raining day, he can reach by his umbrella.
>|> |> 
>|> 
>|> So the puzzle is solved, quickly.  Here is another one.  Have fun.
>|> 
>|> ***************************
>|> A man is sitting in bed in a hotel room.  He makes a phone call,
>|> saying nothing, and then goes to sleep. 
>
>
>One of those 976 calls.

The above answer is apparently the best. While, I want to add some more
freedoms:
1). He made a long distance call to his home where the time is morning in his
home country. His wife likes to get up late and maybe be late for work without
his awakening her. He made a phone call in hotel to awaken his wife or just
make sure she has gone to work.
2). He made a phone call with his calling card but his number is invalid due to
unpaid bill.
3). He want to know his balance of his credit card. (1-800#)
4). He want to know weather forecast or highway report (1-800#)

W.Huang
From: yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Culture or Politics?
Summary: Don't stereotyping Chinese
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:34:16 GMT
Reply-To: yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Dec18.141056.7980@pt.com> mliu@pt.com (Fred Liu) writes:

>Many people writing to this news group are Chinese and I guess they
>consider this is a flying land in this English speaking country.
>They think that this is a purely Chinese community.  They are talking
>in English but their behavior is just like talk in an office in
>China.  They feel that this news group is the ONLY place that they
>can speak out.  So they post what they feel they need to say, even
>if the topics are COMPLETELY irrelavant to the category of the news
>group.  That's why they are posting math problems, puzzles, politics,
>pictures, etc.  There are news groups designed for those purposes
>and they don't use them.  I don't think those netters don't know
>there exist such news groups.  They post that in this news group
>by assuming an inference: I am Chinese and I like xxx, all the other
>readers are Chinese, therefore, all the other Chinese must like what
>I like.  The other reason is that they feel being isolated from the
>outside world.  This is the only place that they can share some
>feelings with other people.  THEY ARE AFRAID OF BEING IGNORED if
>they post to some other news groups and got no response at all.
>

If there is ever a stereotyping contest, this paragragh could be the
number one. I don't know if Fred Liu himself is Chinese or not, though
he has a Chinese last name. Why don't you just suggest that the topics 
in this newsgoupe is too divesified. If so, maybe I agree with you more
or less. People used to use their imagination in writing novels or 
science research, but not here, in stereotyping people.  

>Unfortunately people seem to like this.  Some illegal topics are
>responded very actively.

What's illegal? The posters only could be appropriate or inappropriate.

>I believe there are people of other races reading this news group.
>It appears to me that people allow such bizzare things going on in
>this news group can only show that CHINESE PEOPLE DON'T LIKE TO
>FOLLOW RULES.  They some time talk about rules and they kicked
>out an talk.politics.china news group wasting your money, my money
>and American tax payer's money.
>
>Am I right, many people may not like what I said here.  But I would
>like everybody ask yourself, "Am I following the rules?".
>

If you could post the "rules" instead of your subjective comments, 
it makes more sense.

-Guo-Xiang Yu

>-- 
>Fred Liu, Performance Technologies Incorporated		mliu@pt.com
>315 Science Parkway, Rochester, New York 14620		uupsi!ptsys1!mliu

                           
               


   

 







Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xia@oak.math.ucla.edu (Huashi Xia)
Subject: Old vs New phone number in Beijing
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 18:43:00 GMT

I have an old phone number 665646 in Beijing. Can anyone tell me the 
corresponding new seven-digit number? Thanks.  xia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zing@wilber.rich.nt.com (Leon Z. Lee)
Subject: Re: pinyin reform
Organization: Northern Telecom, Inc.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:48:47 GMT

In article <BzLFnM.B36@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>I am so glad people are interested in talking about PinYin. I believe any 
>format is better than HanZi. HanZi was designed for writing on wooded logs. 
>The wood log was precious
>comparing with time they need to spend at the time. So HansZi was designed to 
>have as much info as possible with limited space. Those info are desirable at 
>ancient times , but not necessary. HanZi is an artistical wonder and a 
>scientific and technolgical junk. Drop that thing sooner the better.
>I believe as computer gets spreaded among Chinese people, The cry for PinYin 
>will grow stronger.

I vehemently disagree.  Your assumption is based on the fact that a latin-
alphabet keyboard will be accepted as the sole means for entering commands
and text into all computer systems.  It is obvious that latin-based keyboards
are not compatible with the present Chinese character system...but is that
the fault intrinsic to the Chinese language...or it may be the fact that
one has yet to design a keyboard customized to the Chinese language and
train of thought !

The Japanese in the 1880s examined the prospects of abandoning Kanji and
adopt Romaji (latin-alphabets) and they dropped it for it was too
foreign a concept to swallow.

We all know that the Chinese language is a ideomatic character system.  With
the pronucation of the character separate from the written part...it will
suffice to state that this language has preserved our culture as one unit.
Can one say the same for latin-based alphabets ?

The Chinese character system may be "technological junk"...but who is
to say that today's technology will remain constant throughtout the mellium
of time ?  Let's not abandon one's native language for the sake expidency.

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