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From: mhall@amiganet.chi.il.us (Mike Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Amiga MIDI Device standard?
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:59:01 CST
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

Hi, all...
Anyone know about the status of a real or vapour midi.device for the Amiga?

I'm aware of Bill Barton's library, and CMU's MIDI toolkit and CAMD, but
is CBM doing anything to standardize MIDI I/O on the Amiga. (I'm afraid I know
the answer....)

Do you think a letter-writing campaign would get the attention of someone at
CBM?   (Yeah, I guess you're right...)

Comments and pointers would be appreciated.  Since this isn't greatly
newsworthy to the readers at large, I guess it ought to be via e-mail.
I'll be happy to summarize.

Thanks!


--
Mike Hall       708-393-6350
mhall@amiganet.chi.il.us
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From: mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: Please post to rec.music.makers.synth
Date: 10 Jan 93 22:47:41 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA
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In article <1993Jan7.225550.6469@desire.wright.edu>
                                        gbutulis@desire.wright.edu writes:

> I may be in a minority (in which case, please ignore this and continue with
>progress), but I have no access to r.m.m.s at the current time.

Yes, Garrett, you probably are in a minority, but I don't think that means
that you should be ignored.

I hate to start this all up again ("Yeah, right" I hear you say!), but here
it is, folks.  Had we left well enough alone, people like Garrett, Kim Berry,
and who knows how many others would not soon be losing their access to synth
discussion on the net.  As it is, they will lose that access shortly due to
the pending rmgroup of r.m.s.

I still think it's one of the more stupid things I've ever seen on Usenet,
and I've seen some plenty stupid things!

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    mrk@gvgspd.GVG.TEK.COM              |  two, one and one make one."
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From: jef@wsl.dec.com (Jonathan E. Flamm)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers,ba.market.misc
Subject: TG77 and DR550 for Sale (Lower Prices)
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:23:16 GMT
Organization: DEC Western Software Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: visalia.pa.dec.com

FOR SALE:

Yamaha TG77 Rack mount sound module.

32 voice polyphonic.  Uses AWM and AFM to create sounds (basically samples
and FM synthesis).  These can be combined for up to four oscillators per
voice.  This is a very versatile synth that can create anything from analog
sounds to DX7 to M1 type.  Effects section has up to four simultaneous
effects.  Large LCD display, 16 channel multitimbral.  Can take additional
waveform cards and data cards.  22bit D/A.  Eight seperate outs and stereo
and Alternate mix out.  Unit is 3 rack spaces.  Condition is mint. 
This is Yamaha's most advanced rack mount to date.  Only the SY99 keyboard
has more features.
>
>$1150 or best offer.
******** Lowered to $1000 *********
>----------------------
>
Roland Boss DR-550 (DR Rhythm)

Great little drum machine.  16 bit sounds with plenty of punch.  4 sound
banks, sounds have built in effects.  Runs on batteries/AC.
>
>$150 or best offer.
******** Lowered to $125 *********
>----------------------
Jonathan Flamm
jef@wsl.pa.dec.com
wk:  415-688-1548
hm:  415-661-3080
From: flloyd@l1-a.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE])
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Seeking Opinions on Miracle Piano Teacher System
Date: 5 Jan 1993 23:18:36 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Phoenix, AZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: l1-a.west.sun.com

In article <1993Jan5.182743.22042@cs.ucla.edu> gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.222653.19681@nynexst.com> rsilvers@nynexst.com (Robert Silvers) writes:
>>Maybe you can get keyboards for $100 (are they velocity sensitive,
>>have MIDI, and 16 note polyphony?)  That and a workbook would NEVER, NEVER,
>>NEVER, get you anywhere near as far as the Miracle.
>
>Note I said a workbook, a $100 keyboard and a weekly lesson should get
>one at least as far as the Miracle gets one in the same amount of
>time, provided they are motivated to practice.
>

I'm glad you guys are talking about this because I'm considering some
sort of automated teaching aid myself.  I've been thinking that if I
buy a Miracle that I might learn how to play on it and then later I can
buy a tone box and upgrade the Miracle's sounds by using the midi port.

On the other hand, I saw a program called PianoWorks today which appeared
to do the same thing as the Miracle (without games).  Can either of you
(or anyone else) speak for PianoWorks?  Is it any good?

I've been a guitar player for over 20 years but do not read music
very well.  I have a piano at home but it's not positioned well for
extensive practice (my plinking would disturb other household members).
I've found that I'm fairly adept at figuring out chords on the piano
and I can play parts of one or two classical tunes which I like a lot.
One thing for sure is that I can only play songs that I've heard,
not those which are represented to me only as sheet music.

I can read some of the sheet music but it's painfully slow, a note at
a time with no connection to where they are on the keyboard.

When I told the salesman my predicament he replied "do you want to learn
to read music or to play the piano?"  I was puzzled....  I still am....

I think I want to do both.  Are there many keyboardists who do not know
how to read music?  What should I do?

-fred

-- 
[ Fred Lloyd, AA7BQ                             Fred.Lloyd@West.Sun.COM ]
[ Sun Microsystems,           Southwest Area Solaris Transition Manager ]
[ Phoenix, AZ                                            (602) 275-4242 ]
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: gss@progress.COM (George Shrady)
Subject: Re: Upgrading Wavestation -> WS-EX troublesome?
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:44:01 GMT

cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (Nick Rothwell) writes:

>>Could someone who has experiences (both positive and negative)
>>please enlight me on this? It would be greatly appreciated!

>My Wavestation was taken to an EX, no problem. I had it done at a local
>store; it required board-level soldering of the new sample ROM's.

I had my wavestation upgraded to an EX a couple of months ago.
Very painless, took a few days (Daddy's in Nashua, NH had to send it
to their Salem office) and it was only about $110 US. 

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From: OIVINDI@gribb.hsr.no (Oivind Idso)
Subject: HELP!
Keywords: can't access rec.music.makers.synth no more!!!
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:49:06 GMT


Help! I've switched schools and can't access "rec.music.makers.synth" 
anymore! What should I do??? 

Please e-mail me any suggestions on how I (or the computer dept.) can access 
this group.

Thanks...

Oivind Idso (-: oivindi@gribb.hsr.no :-)
-------------------------------------------------------------
"Reality Has Always Been Too Small For The Human Imagination"
-------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: marten@cs.kun.nl (Marten van Hulst)
Subject: Upgrading Wavestation -> WS-EX troublesome?
Organization: University of Nijmegen, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 08:18:42 GMT

Hi there,

I am planning to buy an (old) wavestation, and then to
upgrade it to obtain a wavestation-EX.

Now rumours have it that troubles are likely to occur when
proceeding in the indicated way.

Could someone who has experiences (both positive and negative)
please enlight me on this? It would be greatly appreciated!


Thanks in advance,

Marten
From: drwho@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Number 6)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Jeff Wayne's latest project...
Keywords: Spartacus
Date: 11 Jan 93 04:24:00 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana


In the early 80's I corresponded with Jeff Wayen, composer of the popular
musical version of "The War of the Worlds" with Richard Burton, Justin
Hayward, David Essex, et al.  In his last letter he mentioned he was working
on a musical rendition of the legend of Spartacus, the Thracian gladiator.
I then noticed, recently, that the 1984 CD release of "War of the Worlds"
mentions "Spartacus" in the J-card.  Most recently, I have heard an
unsubstantiated rumor that the project is now available in England.  If
anyone has any information about this, please E-mail me at either this
address or, preferrably, at:

nmarsh@indyvax.iupui.edu

I have been waiting 10 years for this album.  If it is even half of what
WOTW was, it'll be well worth the money to me.

Neil Marsh
aka Taeri Bellasar
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cbm@well.sf.ca.us (Chris Muir)
Subject: Re: Midi Guitarist
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:44:38 GMT

MIDI Guitarist
PO Box 75
Jacksonville, OR 97503
(503)899-1948

-- 
__________________________________________________________________________
Chris Muir                              |   "There is no language in our
cbm@well.sf.ca.us                       |    lungs to tell the world just
{hplabs,pacbell,ucbvax,apple}!well!cbm  |    how we feel"  - A. Partridge
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From: purelght@deeptht.armory.com (Eric Braun)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Homemade Drum Pad for Foot? Info needed...
Date: 7 Jan 93 01:20:31 GMT
Organization: Eric Braun Associates/PureLight Inc.

>> Has anybody out there tried this or can offer suggestions on how to build 
>>the pad to eliminate false/missing triggers? 

I JUST did this successfully. The best base to use is to get a practice pad
for the kick pedal. now maybe i found a 1 of a kind thing but the one i
found was a big metal plate with a angled rubber pad for the head to the
pedal to hit. i then went to Radio Shack & bought the $2.50 2" piezo
trigger, glued it in behind the rubber, wired it into my Octapad II and it
worked fine. double trigger were caused by the bounce action on my foot.
tightening up the pedal spring helped a lot. the rest can be eliminated if
you have a quantize feature on your MIDI recorder (that is if you work
with one). The thing about potential bounce is that even if you use the
$150 (rip off!) trigger from Roland, it is essentially the same thing, only
a piezo and the bounce problem can still plague ya.

Good Luck,
Eric
-- 
+-------------------------------------+
| Eric Braun	purelght@armory.com   |
+-------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
From: swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood - EVENSONG)
Subject: Kawai KC 10 (Spectra) forsale cheap
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:52:12 GMT

I have my Kawai KC 10 Spectra keyboard - rigged as remote with snake and
strap - for sale.  Multi-timbral with user programmable sounds and built
in rythm and drum kit.  Good condition - works great - all original boxes
and materials/books.

Really need the money

Will sacrifice at $250.00 o.b.o.

swood

313-394-0351

-- 
 All Month  Rabbit and Crow are legal to hunt all month in Michigan
  Jan. 09   Opening of Michigan Canada Goose special late season
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         <<<<<<  Only nine months until bow season!!! >>>>>>
From: nineball@remarque.berkeley.edu (9ball)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: In defense of the FZ-1, and FZ-1 owner search!
Date: 9 Jan 1993 10:41:42 GMT
Organization: Not Very
Distribution: world
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Originator: nineball@remarque.berkeley.edu

>system@cyberden.sf.ca.us writes:
>> Yup... The FZ-1, although a 16 bit sampler, was the first 16 bit sampler.
>> The envelopes are non-existant, the looping is confusing as hell and the
>> overall sound is not that great, although it is an impressive sampler for
>> it's time. I also believe it only goes up to 32Khz sampling rate.

From the March 1989 Keyboard sampler technical tests:
1) Envelopes: 2 per voice. 8-segment for cutoff & amplitude.  +/- V control.
     Programmable amplitude & filter levels & rates, & filter cutoff
     frequency.  Kbd tracking of levels & rates for both envs.
2) Looping: sustain, release, temporary (time).  A friend and I set up
     a loop on a vocal segment in a matter of minutes, aided by the
     graphical display of the waveform on the synth panel, a feature
     that few other samplers of this price range had/ve.
3) Overall sound: beat the EPS in overall, processed, clean, and un-
     processed sounds.  Beat all others, including the Akai S1000
     in unprocessed/original pitch.  Had  1/10 the  pitch shift
     distortion (weighted) than EPS.  True the EPS was one of the
     originals, and there are many better.  But not near $600.
4) Sampling rate: up to 36kHz.

If ANYONE can give me a pointer to a FZ-1 for $300-400, I'll kiss
your dot pitch, I'm in the market.

I would like to get in contact with ANY current FZ-1 owners to
discuss software/sample availability (ESPECIALLY), troubles, support, etc.,
and for future discussions; barring people dumping offers of
FZ's for $300 in my lap, I'm prepared to pick up a friend's for ~$700
in a couple of weeks.  Is this truly too much to pay?  Help,  I
need info!
Reply to nineball@remarque.berkeley.edu.
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From: traub@rtf.bt.co.uk (Michael Traub)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 and MIDI -- is anyone doing it?
Date: 12 Jan 93 09:32:15 GMT
Organization: BT Customer Systems, Brighton, UK

In article <3s18wB2w165w@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca writes:
>Is anyone using Sequencer Plus Jr (from Voyetra, for the S/B card)
>under OS/2?  I had a heck of a time with it, even under a VDM.  Now
>when I want to use it I just boot up into plain old vanilla DOS using
>a boot diskette.

I got it working ok. Background activity must be nil, and I had to change
a couple of the video options in the DOS SETTINGS box. Otherwise it works
fine.



-- 
Michael Traub
BT Customer Systems, Brighton Systems Centre. traub@btcs.bt.co.uk

    JOE, taxi driver: Unemployment will rise and sooner or later the
    masses will revolt against it. There'll be civil disorder and the
    further breakdown of civil society. The end result I hope will be
    the triumph of the people over capitalism. I also wouldn't mind
    if a few more people used taxis this year - '92 was rotten.

(Taken from "Hopes and Fears" in The Guardian, December 31st 1992, a
section which looked at what people saw 1993 bringing)
From: cfoley@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Ciaran Foley)
Subject: Re: Recommend Music Workstation ~$2000?
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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Reply-To: "Ciaran M. Foley" <cfoley@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU>
Date: 10 Jan 93 20:40:38 GMT
X-Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

In article <pet.726664639@munagin> you write:
>Hi, I have about $2000-$3000 AU to spend (hopefully!)
>on synth equipment...
>
>I have a drum machine I'm happy with, and I'll be looking at
>2nd hand synths as well as new ones. I should be able to
>get reasonable deals thru people working in shops so...
>
>Would you be able to recommend a workstation or combination of
>synths which you use? Please list prices of the individual
>pieces...
>
>I would like: decent quality sampling, preferably compatible with Akai S1100,
>(but not essential), minimum 8 multitimbral in Total (over all pieces),
>sequencing, synthesis, and built-in or external FX...
>
>Thanks heaps!
>
>Morgen das SonnenSystem!

My own .0239482323 cents worth:

	If you're really interested in sampling and synthesis capability,
the K2000 (rackmount, if you can get your hands on a decent controller)
is one way to go. It supports a mind boggling array of synthesis
possibilities, giving you sounds that range from Roland'ish bright textures,
to Wavestation changing timbres to good 'ol FM, to BIG FAT RICH analog
synth stuff. It's truly a wonder machine. Not only does it have some of
the most flexible (and, I might add, easy to learn--I learned how to program
the beast in a day) synthesis engine, BUT it ALSO reads sample disks from
the AKAI S1000 library as well as Kurzweil's own. But wait---that's not all--
in addition to a set of Ginsu knives ;-) you also have the option of adding:

	1) a new sampling option, offering digital INs and OUTs and
		sampling rates up to 48Khz in 16 bit. All fully
		using the synthesis engine for manipulation beyond
		any standard sampler on the market. ~$700.00 from
		what I've heard.

	2) memory, memory, memory: UP to 64 MEGABYTES very easily
		added using inexpensive(?) Mac Simms. This rivals
		the possible sample memory of most samplers, I think.

AND THERE'S MORE:

With the sampling option, I've heard that one may also use the
entire sample libraries from both the Ensoniq EPS family and
the ROLAND S770!!!!!!!
Pretty neat eh?

It includes two SCSI ports (the rackmount) a fan (rackmount) and
TEN audio outs (rackmount also)...

The drawback: Price (although, not when you consider its power)

I got mine for around $2300.00


Hope this helps,
Ciaran

BTW...have someone qualified and EXPERIENCED demo it. The factory presets
	ARE NOT impressive. This is one machine that you have to dig deep
	into to make sing.


Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Edward Julian Craft <e.j.craft@aston.ac.uk>
Subject: CM32-L programming
X-Xxdate: Tue, 5 Jan 93 14:09:56 GMT
Organization: Aston University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:03:54 GMT



Does anyone know where I can get software for the PC to program the
CM32-L ?
Is there an FTP site for all the MIDI programs ?

Please reply by e-mail to e.j.craft@aston.ac.uk .

Many thanks !

																																				Edward Julian Craft.
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Subject: Re: Seeking Opinions on Miracle Piano Teacher System
Originator: gds@york.cs.ucla.edu
Reply-To: gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner)
Organization: in your face!
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 18:27:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.222653.19681@nynexst.com> rsilvers@nynexst.com (Robert Silvers) writes:
>Maybe you can get keyboards for $100 (are they velocity sensitive,
>have MIDI, and 16 note polyphony?)  That and a workbook would NEVER, NEVER,
>NEVER, get you anywhere near as far as the Miracle.

Note I said a workbook, a $100 keyboard and a weekly lesson should get
one at least as far as the Miracle gets one in the same amount of
time, provided they are motivated to practice.

>I mean the Miracle will demo the song for you, then you play it and
>it tells you what you did wrong. Workbooks don't know if you hit the
>wrong key, or with bad timing.  Have you really used this system?  I
>mean for a few hours anyways?  I can't imagine a real instructor
>being as effective, let alone a workbook. 

IMHO, there is a difference between learning how to play songs and
learning the instrument.  The Miracle will teach one how to play
songs, but not how to play keyboards.  If all one wants is to learn
how to play songs, the Miracle is fine, but once they progress past
that point they will have to employ other learning devices.

--gregbo
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: Jay_Tobias@taligent.com (Jay Tobias)
Subject: JV-80 Sound Cards
Organization: Taligent
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:14:42 GMT

How good are the various sound cards that are available for the Roland JV-80 and
JV-880 synthesizers?  Roland itself makes 4 cards, and Sound Source offers their
own.  In addition, a company called Rec offers about 6 or 7 cards and even lets
you demo them over the phone, but it's hard to tell from that.

Does anybody have experience with these sounds?  Are there some that are stellar
and some that are just not worth it? 

I've listened to the 4 Roland cards and like them, especially since 3 of them
make use of the Pop Expansion Board.  Sound Source cards seem to be pretty good,
too.  They ship a free SysEx program and give a discount on the fourth disk.

Jay_Tobias@Taligent.com
From: mir@chorus.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Looking for Yamaha Clavinova sources
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:06:00 GMT
Organization: Chorus systemes, St Quentin en Yvelines, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

jwilson@msen.com (Jeff Wilson) writes:
: 
: I'm looking for music files and programs for the Yamaha Clavinova.
: 
: I'm also interested in any information regarding the file format for
: Clavinova music disks.

Did you succeed in reading them on any computer?

-- 
Adam Mirowski,  mir@chorus.fr (FRANCE),  tel. +33 (1) 30-64-82-00 or 74
Chorus systemes, 6, av.Gustave Eiffel, 78182 Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines CEDEX
From: industry@convex.csd.uwm.edu (Mark A Bialik)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: midi beginner needs help
Date: 6 Jan 1993 22:36:42 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30
Originator: industry@convex.csd.uwm.edu

Hello.

I'f fairly new at this whole midi thing.  I looked for a FAQ here, but
couldn't find it.  I have a basic Yamaha PSR 500M (nothing fancy, but I like
it).  I also run an IBM Compat. 386DX/33 with Windows 3.1
What do I need to have in order to hook the keyboard into the computer and
fool around with the Windows Midi program?  Has anyone done this?  Sorry to
sound stupid, but I'm not sure what the heck I'm doing.  Replies to me
directly would be appreciated, but I hope others will learn something as
well.  So, whatever....

Thanks,
Mark

Mark A. Bialik  AT&T: (414)271-1619   USMail: 1864 Cambridge #3
Department of Political Science               Milwaukee, WI  53202
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
InterNET: industry@convex.csd.uwm.edu (or) industry@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

-- 
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Department of Political Science               Milwaukee, WI  53202
University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee
InterNET: industry@convex.csd.uwm.edu (or) industry@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
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From: rjt2@bnr.co.uk ()
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Re: General MIDI
Date: 4 Jan 1993 13:34:27 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, UK
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: 47.3.128.59

General MIDI standardises voices 1 to 128 (thus any General MIDI device must
have the same type of voice for each of these program numbers, although in
practice it may sound significantly different). It also standardises several
percussion sets (Room, Electronic, Orchestra, etc.) and their key assignments.

Roland's GS standard includes all of these General MIDI assignments, but also
standardises a number of other program settings, particularly special effects,
as well as some other MIDI controlled parameters.

I have a Roland JV-30 (Sound Canvas with a keyboard) and my dad has a Yamaha
TG100 (General MIDI tone expander). General MIDI allows us to use the same
MIDI music files on either piece of kit and get reasonably good voice
allocations.. although voice changes are often helpful due to the differences
in quality of individual voices (i.e. if it targets a naff voice).

General MIDI & Roland GS MIDI files
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

There are several of these stored on a mail-driven fileserver in the
Netherlands - try sending the text "HELP" to  mail-server@cs.ruu.nl

These are stored in directory /midi/songs.

There are some very impressive GS demos labelled "scdemos" including a decent
rendition of the first section of Beethoven's 5th.

Does anyone know of any other mail driven fileservers other than
Atari Archive <atari@terminator.cc.umich.edu> ?

Cheerio,

Richard.
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