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From: Keith.Bucher@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Keith Bucher)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Phoenix Exhibits
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:57:20 GMT
Reply-To: Keith.Bucher@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23385

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Also present were such companies as Henter-Joyce, GW Micro, Omnichron,
IRTI, Humanware, and tSI.  I saw a most interesting Braille Printer, The
Juliet, from Enabling Technologies of Stuart, fL.  It is a $4,000 40 CPS
interpoint printer.  Unlike most models, you don't waste the first sheet
of paper, and it can handle the large 15 inch wide office stock.  They
also plan to produce an option where you can use a single sheet of non
tractor feed paper if you want.  It looked like a good printer,
and unlike the foreign ones, this one had damn good braille!  Just like
the Romeos have always had.  Oh yes, Microtalk and Ann Morris
Enterprises as well as Personal DAta Systems were all there as well.
And let's not forget Ed potter.  He had some gadgets which probably sold
more than all the high ticket stuff put together.  Syntha-Voice was
there, but one didn't exactly get a hands-on demo of windows bridge.
Judging from my experience with DAvid Kos, whatever his name is, I'd
personally be very careful about this program.  If they ever produce a
working demo, and you see it and it does what you like, go for it, but I
feel they'll have to do a lot more before they catch on down here.
Remember the problems which occurred with this company over the vapor
ware Nomad?  I know I left out many companies, as there were over
60, but I hope this message at least gives a small example of just how
much fun it was to talk to the Exhibitors and see the products.  I guess
it's like anything else. Reading about it and hearing about is are fun,
but actually seeing it is something else altogether.  And as I've stated
in earlier messages, Blazie Engineering was indeed there though Deane
was not. See "Beware," messages before spending your money.  Keith
Bucher.

... I know a good tagline when I steal one.

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From: Stew.Bowden@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Stew Bowden)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: food for thought
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:37:10 GMT
Reply-To: Stew.Bowden@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:377/6 - T.A.B.B., Tampa Fl
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23185

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Hi Lee: regarding mainstreaming, if conditions were ideal, if all
ser vicers could be provided, if there was a way that blind
students could work with their sighted peers without feeling
inferrior because they had to work slower, if all these things
could e fixed I would agree to do away with residential schools in
a heartbeat.

However, not one of these conditions has been satisfied to my way
of thinking, therefore, I believe that every blind child should
spend some time in the residential school. If for no other reason
than to learn how to survive. Today, schools in general are in bad
shape, and unfortunately, the residential schools are no better.
Having to mix multi-handicapped students with blind students with
normal and often exceptional abilities is bad for both groups.
Parents are upset, teachers have problems trying to teach to often
three or four different abilities in the same classroom, and, in
short, while mixing them has been economically advantageous, from a
practical point of view, it just isn't working.

Guess that's why I'm glad to be out of it. From an administrative
point of view, you had constant wories about the welfare of all.
Not because anything you were doing was unsafe, but the nature of
many of the m.h. students was such that serious illness could come
along at any time, and many with brittal bones were constantly
having serious breaks, which often placed the school in a most
difficult position. You had to spend endless amounts of time
proving to parents, social agencies, and often the courts, that
your policies in no way contributed to the child's difficulty. It
just became not worth it. Take care and see you again. Stew

... If it's working PLEASE ...Don't make Love to it!!!
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From: Kelly.Ford@f8.n121.z1.fidonet.org (Kelly Ford)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Interfacing bns with
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:39:00 GMT
Reply-To: Kelly.Ford@f8.n121.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:121/8 - JW-PC DataFlex.HST, Sun Prairie WI
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23463

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 TC> Hi Kelly.
 TC> I know you're using a Mackintosh with Outspoken and I think
 TC> you've also used a Braille n Speak. Is there any way to
 TC> interface the Braille n Speak with the Mackintosh? I have a
 TC> friend who wrote his thesis on his Mackintosh and I'd like to
 TC> download it in to my Braille n Speak. Can this be done?

Tim,

Yes.  Blazie sells a BNS cable that connects to the serial port of the
Macintosh.  Then it is simply a matter of using a communications program
to upload the file to the BNS.  As with IBM files, you'll have to be
sure your friend saves the file as some sort of an ASCII file.

Also, if you or your friend already have a modem for the Macintosh, it
may be possible to connect the modem cable to your BNS cable with the
appropriate connector and bypass the need for Blazie's Mac BNS cable.

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From: Daveed.Mandell@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Daveed Mandell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: "blind loyalty"
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:11:34 GMT
Reply-To: Daveed.Mandell@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23422

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

I was disappointed.  Too much "it is said that...".  Not

a good hallmark of investigative journalism.

Much too flimsy.

--Daveed--

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From: Gary.Warren@f5.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Gary Warren)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Disabilities and the election
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:17:14 GMT
Reply-To: Gary.Warren@f5.n382.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/5 - Health-Link, Austin TX

Index Number: 23268

Hiya, I'm back online again!  After a horrendous nine months living in
San Antonio (primarily because of respiratory and attendant care
problems), I am back in Midland living with my parents, I hope,
temporarily.  Right now, with my new notebook computer, I'm planning my
next issue of my disABILITY NEWS-letter, which will pertain to the
presidential candidates' stands on topics related to the disabled.
While Ross Perot's sudden withdrawal from the race leaves the field
somewhat less crowded, I'm still looking for any information related to
Bush and Clinton's viewpoints or actions while in past and present
offices which pertain to the handicapped, for good or bad.  If anyone
has valuable data about this, would you please either reply through
this echo or contact me:
Gary L. Warren
Editor and Publisher
disABILITY NEWS-letter
3306A Moss Court
Midland, Texas 79707
(915) 520-2923
I really need this info soon, because I'm planning to print out Vol.
Two, No. Two of disABILITY NEWS-letter right after next month's
Republican National Convention in Houston.
Any help would be mucho appreciated.  Thanks!
glw
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From: rajesh@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Rajesh Mishra)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: AN APPEAL
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:57:51 GMT
Reply-To: rajesh@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Rajesh Mishra)
Organization: Tandem Computers; Austin TX

Index Number: 23239

I am writing the plight of a good friend of mine. Please take a few
minutes of your precious time to go through this posting and help
alleviate someone's sorrows and fill his life with joy.

His name is Charlie. After the happy days of childhood and the
teens, he started getting pain in his joints and was advised rest.
Finally when he was diagnosed to be havin Ankylosing Spondylitis,
his hip and knee joints had got fused because of the long days of
complete bed rest. Now he is a man with a body as stiff as a rod.
He cannot bend his legs. He cannot sit upright and can walk very
slowly with the help of a stick. As you can well understand that he
finds it extremely difficult to visit places away from his precint
because of inability to travel in public transport.

Despite all the disability and problems Charlie has not lost hope
in the past ten years of his struggle. He finished his Masters in
Political Science.  He loved his career as a teacher in a school.
Since commuting is becoming a big problem in the absense of any
specialized vehicles, he had to leave that job and is presently
trying to start an enterprise near his house. Charlie can regain
his mobility and be fully rehabilitated by the replacement of his
knee and hip joints with prosthetics. But it is prohibitively
expensive. Charlie wins someones's heart in seocnds, believes in
God and is always ready to help others despite his own handicap.

Charlie needs small help to fill his life with bliss.

1. He is looking for a life partner with whom he can share his joys
and sorrows. He says he would prefer a physically handicapped wife.
So that he can also help bringing happiness to someone else's
life.

2. He is also looking for financial help from kind hearted people
that would make the joint replacement surgery possible and make him
regain his mobility.

3. To overcome the greatest problem of mobility he is looking for
help and information in getting the specialized vehicle/wheel
chair.

4. If you yourself have undergone or know someone who has undergone
similar kind of trauma that Charlie is going through currently,
please kindly share your experience with him. That would give him
the moral support which he needs so desperately to carry on in this
world.

You may directly correspond with Charlie at the following address.

        Charlie D
        D-12 Gokula Colony
        M.S. Ramaiah Building
        Bangalore - 560054
        INDIA

If you feel that this is a wrong forum to put such an appeal then I
am extremely sorry. Any kind of information and help to alleviate
the suffering of Charlie and make his dream of "good day coming"
true would be highly appreciated.

Thanks for your time.
Bye
Rajesh
From: Linda.Cummings@f34.n375.z1.fidonet.org (Linda Cummings)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Stupid Me
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:05:42 GMT
Reply-To: Linda.Cummings@f34.n375.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:375/34 - Batteries Included, Montgomery AL

Index Number: 23334

[This is from the Chronic Pain Conference]

Well, I thought I'd have the nerve to get in one of the wheelchairs
available at Walmart the next time I went shopping there, but I
didn't. And, boy, do I regret it!

"I'm only going to be in there just a little while," I thought to
myself.  Ha!  I *love* browsing around the stores.  I do tend to
just do a little more than I should.  Well, in this particular
case, I did a *lot* more than I should have.

I barely made it home, and when I got the shopping bags inside, I
absolutely collapsed.  I immediately popped two pain pills and a
Flexaril.  About an hour later, the pain was manageable, but not
gone. That was yesterday.

Today, I have that numbness feeling in my left leg, and the pain is
constant.

Why do we do this to ourselves?

I guess I care about what other people (even strangers) think.  I mean, I don't know how I would react if I saw someone come walking into a store and then roll themselves around in a wheelchair, pay for their purchases, and then walk out.  Maybe because that's what I *should* be doing, I wouldn't think too much about it.

Maybe I'm fearful that someday I will be in a wheelchair and I don't want to get into one any sooner than I have to.  I don't know.  I've even thought about this...if I do start using one in the stores, will it hurt me?  What I mean by that is, will I tend to get lazy?  It's obvious that too much walking hurts me.  I can't pace myself.  So, will using a wheelchair make me worse off than I already am?

If I find that using one does help, and I can shop in comfort will no ill effects, then I might consider having one for places that don't have one there that you can borrow.  What would I look for?

Just thinking ahead and trying to make my life more bearable.

Linda

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From: buckij@stolaf.edu (Jonathan Bucki)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Automatic Macro Expansion Program
Date: 30 Jul 92 13:44:10 GMT
Reply-To: buckij@stolaf.edu (Jonathan Bucki)
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN

Index Number: 23443

Greetings,

I am searching for a macintosh program that will automatically
expand text as it is entered. I know they exist for the PC's too.
But I need one for the Mac.

This is what I mean:

When I type an abbreviation like "jsb" and then press the spacebar,
it will automatically be expanded out to "Jonathan S. Bucki."

This is not similar to something like quickeys which deals with
keyboard commands like Command-F5 etc. I need to be able to build a
vocabulary of many words.

Now, this program could be a seperate program (like a cdev) or it
could be a feature of a word processor. Either would do me well.

I am trying to offer several solutions for a friend of mine who can
only use one hand. He needs to take notes in classes  and do
general typing.

Also, please refer me to the location of a FAQ for this group (if
one exists.)

thank you much,

Jonathan Bucki
St. Olaf College
From: Lionel.Trudel@f136.n167.z1.fidonet.org (Lionel Trudel)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Modern Canes
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:49:18 GMT
Reply-To: Lionel.Trudel@f136.n167.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:167/136 - Ab.'s Place, Montreal PQ
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23196

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

Bonjour Walter...

WS>     Lee, I am using a telescoping cane which is very light.  It is made out
WS>of pcp pipe, and is made by a walter Crandell in California.  They cost $15,
WS>and I am very happy with it.

My wife got same as you and the cane is free, the cane roll on bearing.

Ho yeah, we come from Quebec province and the cane is furnish by
l'Institut Nazareth et Louis Braille well know at Montreal area as INLB,
this place is for the persons who get a low vision.

WS>They will come in any length you want.

Normally they give the cane by the tall you have, no ?

A "short" person can't walk with a cane if the cane is to long for him
or her, or a "tall" person can't walk with a cane to short for him or
her.

Lionel

 * SLMR 2.1a * Avant je lisais des livres. Maintenant je lis des .QWK

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From: David.Andrews@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (David Andrews)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: CD_ROM
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:58:53 GMT
Reply-To: David.Andrews@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23389

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 -=> Quoting Juan Mojena to Christopher Hill <=-

 > It's not the rom itself you must be concerned with, but the software(
 > Cd's) you buy for it.  What software were you thinking of getting?

 JM> Point understood, but, I'm still concerned about what drive would be
 JM> supported in the future.  I hear terms like scsi, proprietary scsi,
 JM> multi-media.  On the one hand, it's self explanatory like scsi being a
 JM> type of interface.  On the other hand, if I got a multi-media drive,
 JM> could I still use it under DOS?  I didn't consider the software
 JM> because I wasn't aware that it was an important factor.  Can one piece
 JM> of software be used to read cd's in or does each cd come with it's
 JM> own?
 >

Most CD-ROM disks come with their own access software.  Some work
under Microsoft windows and some are character-based applications
that work under DOS.  You will need the later at this time if you
are using a DOS-based speech system.

Some CD-ROM players are described as MPC compliant, or Multimedia
PC machines.  This means that they have the specs to support
multimedia disks, i.e. sound, full motion video etc.  However,
multimedia disks require Windows to run.  However, a multimedia
compliant machine is going to have better specs and is probably a
better risk in terms of future compatibility and resale value.
David Andrews

... A feature is a bug with seniority.

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From: Arlette.Lefebvre@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Arlette Lefebvre)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Nissan driving school
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:32:42 GMT
Reply-To: Arlette.Lefebvre@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL

Index Number: 23450

NEW ADVANCED DRIVER TRAINING SCHOOL FOR PHYSICALLY DISABLED:
________________________________________________________________

TORONTO, February 1992.
NISSAN CANADA Inc.

Physically disabled motorists will get a unique chance to learn
advanced driving skills like skid control, emergency manoeuvres and
crash avoidance, starting this spring (1992).

They'll do so at a NEW SCHOOL sponsored by Nissan Canada Inc. and
the Nissan School of Performance Driving, and operated by the
Nissan School with expert advice from Toronto's Hugh Mac Millan
Rehabilitation Centre.

Initially, classes will be offered only at the Nissan's School's
homebase_ Ontario's Shannonville Motorsport Park, near Belleville.
Shannonville is North America's best and safest performance driver
training facility with a dedicated skid-pad and a race-track almost
entirely free of trackside hazards. (travelling classes may be
added later).

Since Nissan and the Nissan School are subsidizing the program, it
will be well within the means of those who wish to participate
($138 for a costs that costs able-bodied drivers up to $500 a
day).

       --------------------------------------------------

FOR MORE INFORMATION, CONTACT:

  Margaret Young, MacMillan Centre, 416-425-6220
  Brett Goodman, Nissan School, 613-962-5588.
  Max Wickens, Nissan Canada Inc., 416-629-6406.

P.S.:       THANK YOU, LEE, FOR SENDING ME THIS NEWS RELEASE!

               A bientot, I hope...?

                                               Docteur Froggie.
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From: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: "Blind Loyalty"
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:45:19 GMT
Reply-To: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23300

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

To: mattioli@took.enet.dec.com (John Mattioli)

 JM> individuals.  This article, however, is a general interest
 JM> article and I truly hope it remains unposted here due to your
 JM> choice not the choice of the censor!

Yoah John,
    Assuming I is da censur on this end of the gate, the article not
being posted here has nothing to do with me!  Not only has nobody asked
me if they could post it, I ain't never prevented much of anything from
being posted here when I have been asked!

     Frankly, I am sure that Bill McGarry, who handles the porting of
messages from your side of the FidoNet/InterNet fense and back was just
concerned with the length of the article, and not the content.  It is,
after all, a 35k file or so I believe, and that is a bit much in FidoNet
terms, and it would have to be broken up into several messages, 10 or
more, in order for all the systems to be able to handle it.  If just one
person did this, I suppose it would be no big deal, but should several
participants take it upon their own to do it, LOYALTY.TXT could become
quite a nuisance and expense to the sysops of the FidoNet boards that
handle this echo.

     On the other hand, it has sort of surprised me that nobody has
taken it upon their own to import the file here, let alone in the not
too cleverly disguised alternative to this echo, BlindTalk!  Censuring
the file areas of a board, after all, is no big deal, but censuring a
FidoNet style echo is another matter!  It just isn't that easy of a
thing to do even if one did want to do such a thing, and place a message
in just one board handling the echo and chances are very good it will
appear on most ALL the boards handling the echo!

     Just a thought...that's all, but I assure you, there has been no
censurship in this echo!
                                        Willie

... BlinkTalk - the Electronic Voice of the Blind!

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From: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: nfb bbs censorship??
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:03:02 GMT
Reply-To: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23320

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 MF> Nothing.  If you want a clearly free-wheeling echo, you are
 MF> correct in just watching the fur fly.  On the other hand, it
 MF> might be in order to say something like "Stick to issues, not
 MF> personalities".  But, as David Andrews is the SysOp of NFBNET,
 MF> so you're the head honcho of this echo and, within FidoNet
 MF> rules, can conduct it as you deem proper.

Mike,
    I know you probably didn't read the last message I left in this
thread yet, but here...

OK EVERYBODY, STICK TO ISSUES, NOT PERSONALITIES!

What you, and I think perhaps many people are assuming, is that David
Andrews, I, or any FidoNet style echo moderator for that matter, has a
lot of control over the content of this shared message base!  Oh, if
only this were the case!
     Mike, what little control of censurship a moderator does have over
the content of an echo decreases proportionally as the echo spreads to
more boards and more users, and if you only knew how difficult, if not
impossible it is to remove even a single message, let alone a particular
user, you'd understand why I find the existance of an NFB alternative to
BlinkTalk such a howl!  They want it to get out to as many people as
possible, its stated purpose the same as this echo, the sole
distinguishing characteristic being it is NFB sanctioned, but that NFB
sanctioning just ain't worth a plug nickel once the echo truly gets out
there, cause just due to the nature of this beast, THIS IS AN OPEN
FORUM!  Yes, BlinkTalk is pretty free form, just as I like it, but that
has so little to do with who the moderator is, and is almost totally due to
the size of the echo and its availability to anybody who wants it!

     Oh Mike, if only I could utter those above words a few times and
indeed the participants would stick to issues and stay away from
personalities, wouldn't life be grand?

(Naw, I don't think I'd want the power even if I could have it!)
                                        Willie

... BlinkTalk - the Electronic Voice of the Blind!

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