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From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am women?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:14:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.004907.18226@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith) writes:
> In article <1992Nov5.204118.26325@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
> >
> >I could be wrong, but isn't a lot of the "Romance Novels" dealing with Men
> >coming to rescue Women?  If not from physical danger, then from the drudgery
> >of their "boring" (refering to the characters in the books) life?
> >
> >From what I've seen, more women purchase these than men, so my conclusion
> >would be (DRUM roll please) Not all women consider "being rescued by a man
> >to be a bad thing.
> >
> Rather than a large rant and rave, which is what I had originally intended
> for this space, let me reserve my observation to this:
>   
> Anyone who thinks that what one reads reflects what one desires is in
> need of a very, very large clue.
>   
> --j

Aren't a large portion also written by women?  If you have ABSOLUTELY no
interest in something, do you still read it?  Not me.  Most things I read
about (history, war, science fiction-space travel, science fantacy-swords
and sorcery, and not to forget Playboy) I have some interest in, if I didn't
I would not read them.  I would like to be able to travel through time and
space to view and participate in the events I read about.  I would love to
have been there when History was being made, when I read about Vietnam, and
to a lesser extent other wars, I feel slightly guilty that I wasn't there.
I would love to be able to travel the stars, the pioneering spirit is alive
and well within me, and riding the countryside living and surviving on the
skill and strenght of my sword arm is very appealing to me.  As for Playboy
I would like to at minimum be the photographer, or the guy talking dirty to
the girls to get them to smile like that.  :)



Larry Billings
Most of us are sad, No one lets it show,
I've been shadows of myself,How was I to know?         Eagles
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From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Nightline and Presidential Cantidates
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:19:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: grover.MARTINC.92Nov9171946
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Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu's message of 9 Nov 92 01:14:20 GMT

In article <BxFCrw.A8u@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:


   Does the government really need all that money?

   Those useful services the government provides that cannot be provided
   by others, such as police, courts, and national defense, could be paid
   for out of a modest sales tax (but NOT a vat) which would have the
   added benefit of taxing consumption and not investment (savings.)  

This assertion is the big one that keeps me from being an ideologically
pure Libertarian.  DoD budget is what, something like $350 billion, and
is dominated (believe it or not) by personnel costs: salaries, overhead,
pensions.  I very much wonder if this amount -- or the even bigger
amount needed to keep those people as completely free agents -- can be
obtained through a sales tax, at least without mashing lower-income
taxpayers so thoroughly that it would cause massive depression(s).
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
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From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am wome
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 03:57:37 GMT

In article 1@sscl.uwo.ca, carl@sscl.uwo.ca (Carl Kaufmann) writes:
>In article <1992Nov8.013105.14917@sol.UVic.CA>, atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik) writes:
>> Good topic! This thread hits on the fundamental psychological difference 
>> between the sexes, IMVHO:
>> 
>> Women look for love and find sex while men look for sex and find love!
>
>
>I look for both and find neither. :-(

Then stop looking. Both will eventually find you when you least expect them to! :+)

dreas 

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From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 04:05:56 GMT

In article 92Nov8222440@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu, julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:
>huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>malak@grebyn.com (Michael Malak) writes:
>
>>>Here in the Washington, DC area, there is a shortage of men _and_ women
>>>in their 20's.
>
>>That can be bad news for some men in their 30s.
>
>>> That fact is not as well known as the one that their is
>>>a huge surplus of single women in their 30's.
>
>>Well, it was less well known until you blabbed.  The trouble is that many
>>of these women are bitter over events that happened in their 20s.
>
>.... when they went out with men in their 30's?  [ 1/2 :) ]
>
>>The current _Washingtonian_ has a big story on The Date From Hell.  The
>>promo on the radio mentioned guys who think watching _The McLaughlin Group_
>>on TV is foreplay and those who quiz their dates on current events.
>
>*laugh* Hey, sounds like kind of a fun date to me, though my date and I
>would substitute McNeil/Lehrer for The McLaughlin Group, and the quizzing
>goes both ways.  Arguing politics is great fun.  Still, I can see it
>might not be everyone's cup of tea.  Chacun a son gout (translation: "Son 
>of a crippled chicken!").

In your opinion, is Bill Moyers also an aphrodisiac?

>---Julie (27 and not bitter yet :) )

dreas(do you care how old I am?) :+)
From: keithg@cnmhnet.UUCP (keith garrard)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Do you remember 1970 to 1980?
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:27:33 GMT
Organization: California-Nevada Methodist Homes

In article <9211112207.AA06353@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com> GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu writes:
>      As part of an impromptu research project, I'd like to know what
>  YOU think the single most important ( dramatic, traumatic ) event of`
>  1970 to 1980 was.

To me, if you are asking about that decade, the first things
that come to mind, of significant effect, are related, but
come at both ends of the span.  In 1970, a most significant
and important act was Paul McCartney's filing of a lawsuit to
formally break up the Beatles.  Not only did this act effectively
put an end to the 60's, it also affected each of the Beatles for
the rest of their lives.  The other event occurred at the other
end of the time-span you specified, and that was the assassination
of John Lennon on December 8, 1980.  That effectively ended the
70's, and told people that if a nice guy like John Lennon could
get murdered by a supposed fan, then we all have to watch our
behinds.  Of course, in the latter part of the decade in question
there was the alleged death of Elvis Presley.
--Keith

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 20:38:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.163151.26539@grebyn.com> malak@grebyn.com (Michael Malak) writes:
>Here in the Washington, DC area, there is a shortage of men _and_ women
>in their 20's.

That can be bad news for some men in their 30s.

>                That fact is not as well known as the one that their is
>a huge surplus of single women in their 30's.

Well, it was less well known until you blabbed.  The trouble is that many
of these women are bitter over events that happened in their 20s.

>                                               Any single man in his
>30's would do well by moving to this area.

Not if he's looking for women in their 20s.

>                                            Especially if he's not a
>lawyer.

The current _Washingtonian_ has a big story on The Date From Hell.  The
promo on the radio mentioned guys who think watching _The McLaughlin Group_
on TV is foreplay and those who quiz their dates on current events.

-- Herb Huston
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female  boy/guy/male
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 13:18:33 GMT

Todd, please try to limit the length of each line to no more than 80
characters.

In article <BxH37C.n4H@news.udel.edu> todd@chester.cms.udel.edu writes:
>This summer I dated a very nice person. She was extremenly intelligent and extremely committed to her
>beliefs.  Her major point of involvement was women issues, their involvement with politics and their 
>involvement with social issues.  To her, a most degrading statement was to reply to her as a girl,  She was
>a woman.  She was offended when the term   MANkind was used, PERSON kind was more appropiate.

Yes, it's shame that English tries to make "man" do double duty for the Latin
"homo" and "vir."  Here are some alternatives:

_Homo sapiens_ (Yes, it's somewhat technical, but Linnaeus knew what he was
doing for our genus; the specific name is open to dispute, though, and I prefer
_ludens_.)

Living hominines (We're the only species in our subfamily that is not extinct.
Yet.)

Naked apes (Desmond Morris)

Fatty apes (John Napier)

Precocious fetal apes (L. Bolk)

The third chimpanzee (Jared Diamond)

>I think you get the picture.  I respect this point of view, as being her point of view and she has every right 
>to posess it.  Her "goal" is to have the Dec. of Indep. changed to ... All PERSONS are created equal..., so on
>and so forth.

This is called rewriting history, and it was a popular pastime in the former
Soviet Union.  One of the more famous episodes was when purchasers of an
encyclopedia received an expanded article on the Bering Sea with detailed
instructions for pasting it onto a certain page in a particular volume.  When
the instructions were followed, the new article completely obliterated a bio-
graphical article on Lavrenti Beria, the former head of the secret police 
under Stalin, who had fallen from power and been executed.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: migarcia@hfglobe.intel.com (Mike Garcia)
Subject: I'm singel...   :(
Summary: Asian ladys?
Keywords: singel
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:41:55 GMT

I can't spell...  hahhaha I just noticed that I spelled single wrong.. hahhaa
Oh well this is me..

Hiya,

     Well let me see, <<looking in a mirror>>
     I'm 34, 6'3" tall, 190lbs - I work out 3 or 4 times a week.
     I have short brown hair and a well trimmed beard.  Green/blue eyes
     and I like to smile.  ;)

     My Grandfather comes from Spain so I have Garcia as my last name.
     But I am more french than not, Mom's side is canandian french and dad's
     mother is Norwegian. So I have the fair complexion, (burn every
     summer!)

     I was a chef for 14 years and cook very well! ;)  I worked in
     two 5 star restaurants, french cuisine.  I love to do candle lite
     dinners, (hopeless romantic).

     I like to write as a hobby.  I have recently been working with
     poetry.  I've been an artist of sorts since I can remember.  I
     move my creative talents from one medium to another, exploring them
     as much as I can.  Now it is with words on the computer.

     I went back to school 3 years ago and got my degree in computer
     electronics. I enjoy the software side best and now work for Intel
     as an Engineering Tech.  I program in C code and monitor the
     production flow of the 486/50.  I started with Intel in the
     Sacramento Calif area and made a transfer to Portland Oregon in Nov
     of 91.

     I love the Portland area!  I have seen just a small part of it but
     it is so beautiful!  I enjoy going to the beach and the columbia
     gorge is a wonder!

     I like most types of music but prefer rock and classical.  I have
     been to the symphony twice and it is magnificent!

     I have a small BBS (bulletin board service) eMail type that I run from
     my home PC, it is great fun.  I have areas for stories and poems
     as well as chit chat and games.  It keeps me out of trouble and
     maybe out of the bars, which I don't' care for.

     I love to dance but don't like to go into bars alone, not into the pick
     up sceen.  I've still not found the place to find the lady to spend my
     whole life with????

     Now it is your turn!  ;)

     Mike (aka Hawk)

     P.S.

     So if you would like to correspond with me... please write!  
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Haitian Part One
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 04:56:05 GMT


In the fall of 1989 I got a job inspecting the construction of a pollution
control tailings dam in Northern Quebec. In order to work there, you must
speak French. I was inspecting one part of the dam and this Haitian guy
was inspecting another. He spoke Haitian French(creole) and I spoke Quebec
French(jouale). This cannot be the only explanation of our differences.

Understand me when I write that I am not a racist. I believe that there are
good people and jerks in every race/ethnic group. This Haitian was unfortunate
enough to be the only black man in town and also unfortunately the biggest 
jerk that I have ever met. 

Part two and subsequent parts will be posted tomorrow. I'm hungry,thirsty
and tired tonight. 

dreas

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Re: STAB THE HEART OF TEXAS
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 03:02:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Say what you want about Canada but they do have a great baseball team,
really great ale(Molsons) and they are generally nice people. I know
I lived in Ft.Erie for several years.

Whatever that means.

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: malak@grebyn.com (Michael Malak)
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 03:24:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.022122.5197@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith) writes:
>  
>Scenerio 1:  You find out the person you are interested in makes
>    *quite* a bit more than you do.  Does it make a difference to you?

Only if she is near my age or younger.


>Scenerio 2:  You find out the person you are interested in makes
>    *quite* a bit less than you do.  Does it make a difference to you?

No.


>Have you had someone break up with you over money issues?

No.
  

>Do you think
>that those of the opposite gender care more or less about money than
>your own affiliation?

Women care less about men's salaries than men care about women's
salaries.  A woman can blame society if the man makes more.  And a
woman who makes a lot of money is probably pretty aggressive and would
have no problems with earning more than the man.

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Hints (Was Re: What is attractive)
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:51:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.193935.14073@fid.morgan.com>, sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
> In article <lfgan9INNhub@news.bbn.com> dhardin@spcink.bbn.com
> (Dawn Hardin) writes:
> >larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
> 
> >
> >If it had been me, your ass would have hit the asphalt so hard that the
> >asphalt would have dented.
> >
> >That said, I don't think honesty was the problem here.  You were absolutely
> >correct to be honest here, because think of the problems you'd have had
> >if you lied about something as important as that, and went into a permanent
> >relationship with ambiguous feelings about acting as a stepfather without
> >having had time alone with the mother first.  It would have really sucked
> >for all three of you.  But you can't blame this on being truthful.  

Obviously, I need to take a course in writing, Several people got the 
impression that I didn't want the baby, I knew about the child when we started 
going out and at least attempted to let her know that I wasn't upset about
the baby.  But a few months into the relationship she asked one of those
"I dead regardless of my answer" questions.  If I had said that I would not 
have gone out with her except for the baby, she would have thought I cared
more for the baby than for her.  If I had said it made absolutely no
difference whatsoever, she would have called me a liar.  I had alrready
some time before told her I wanted to adopt the child after marriage.

I thought I had made this clear in my original post, sorry for the cloudy
areas of my post.

> 
> Dawn, I don't think you read the same posting I did (and we both
> quoted it).  Larry said that he loved the baby, but he would have
> preferred meeting the woman before she had it (or in a universe in
> which she didn't have it).  Given that he loved the baby, I don't see
> any reason to believe that he would have had "ambiguous feelings about
> acting as a stepfather".
> 

Perferred isn't exactly right, I just thought we would have fewer difficulties
in our "break in" period, but you are right that I would not have had any
problems with being a stepfather (or adopted father), in fact I enjoyed the
idea.

> Note: I'm attributing to Larry the same feelings I once had, when I
> was in a similar situation in which I would have responded similarly.
> And when she broke up with me, I was more upset that I wouldn't be
> seeing her son any more than about not seeing her.

You are correct, it took months to get over her (the only time I've ever been
engaged), it took a year before I could walk through the "infant" section
of Kmart.

> 
> Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com


Larry Billings
Most of us are sad, No one lets it show,
I've been shadows of myself,How was I to know?         Eagles
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From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: Do you remember 1970 to 1980?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:45:49 GMT

In article <9211112207.AA06353@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com>, GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu writes:
> 
>       As part of an impromptu research project, I'd like to know what
>   YOU think the single most important ( dramatic, traumatic ) event of`
>   1970 to 1980 was.
> 
> 
>            ????

dramatic:  I graduated High school.

traumatic:  I joined the Navy.

More traumatic:  Great music was no longer written.  Didn't Disco start in the
late seventies.

traumatic: Iran scum attacked US Ebbassy.

traumatic: Carter boycotting 1976 Olympics.

The most traumatic thing I can think of is I lost my memory then, Must be
then that I lost it, I can't remember the 70's.


Larry Billings
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*    when I get feeling better,          *                                    *
*    when, I'm feeling no pain.          *   Should not have got on this      *
*    Sometimes I think it's a sin,       *   FLIGHT, TONIGHT.                 *
*    when I feel like I'm winning,       *                                    *
*    but I'm losing again.               *                                    *
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: elections
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 14:18:54 GMT

In article <lfj38kINN8gq@news.bbn.com> wall@hel4.brl.mil writes:
>In article <1992Nov4.231240.5270@sr.com> dks@sr.com (Dave K. Sprow) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov4.170850.7520@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry
>Billings) writes:
>>>Well, congratulations, you guys won.

We all won.
>>
>>Just think...  Clinton ends up doing a good job and gets re-elected. Then
>>Gore runs and wins.  we could have Reagan/Bush in reverse. 12 (or 16)
>>years of Democrats.  Oh well, what are you gonna do?
>1996 could be an interesting election.

I say Gore-Braun in '00.

Yes, that's what I say.  :-)


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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Where to meet women?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:56:42 GMT

In article <JULIE.92Nov8222440@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu> julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:
>huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>>malak@grebyn.com (Michael Malak) writes:
>
>>>Here in the Washington, DC area, there is a shortage of men _and_ women
>>>in their 20's.
>
>>That can be bad news for some men in their 30s.
>
>>> That fact is not as well known as the one that their is
>>>a huge surplus of single women in their 30's.
>
>>Well, it was less well known until you blabbed.  The trouble is that many
>>of these women are bitter over events that happened in their 20s.
>
>... when they went out with men in their 30's?  [ 1/2 :) ]

Or with boys in their 20s or 30s.

>>The current _Washingtonian_ has a big story on The Date From Hell.  The
>>promo on the radio mentioned guys who think watching _The McLaughlin Group_
>>on TV is foreplay and those who quiz their dates on current events.
>
>*laugh* Hey, sounds like kind of a fun date to me, though my date and I
>would substitute McNeil/Lehrer for The McLaughlin Group, and the quizzing
>goes both ways.

Compared to McNeil/Lehrer, _The McLaughlin Group_ is a lot "hotter" and more
"stimulating" -- in a sense.
>                 Arguing politics is great fun.

No, it's not!

>                                                 Still, I can see it
>might not be everyone's cup of tea.  Chacun a son gout (translation: "Son 
>of a crippled chicken!").

The author, a woman, lived in DC for less than a year before returning to
Philadelphia.  One of the Dates from Hell was a bureaucrat who brought a
stack of newspapers along on their dinner date and read them during the meal
except for the times he received or placed calls on his briefcase telephone.

>---Julie (27 and not bitter yet :) )

You probably ought to stay away from DC although the conventional wisdom
around here is that Democrats are more fun than Republicans.

-- Herb Huston (>40 and neither lives nor works in DC)
-- huston@access.digex.com
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