HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ssample1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Stephen and Roo)
Subject: Non-intrusive Christians, or ones who try to be
Followup-To: alt.callahans
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:36:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.021617.14308@data-io.com>, li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis
Rostykus) wrote:
> Grin... maybe I should start screaming?  Nah... too tiring.  You're right,
> just because we're *not* annoying doesn't mean we don't exist. *Most* of
> the Christians I know, work with, talk with and believe with are like me.
> And, I'll readily admit that I do *not* have a statistically significant
> sample of those who believe they are 'Christian'.  Makes sense, though, as
> I *do* like working with people that agree with me.  Most people do.  But
> *most* of us are against intolerance, *most* of us don't believe in the
> damnation thing, *most* of us aren't literalists and *most* of us think
> it's a cool way to live.  Most of us put Love of what is good and love of
> each other as we love ourselves as top priority.  Most of us think of
> homosexuals and bisexuals as the oppressed of this time and we should do
> our damndest to help and protect and accept them.  The coalition *against*
> Prop 9 had a very large number of churches in it.

			MMBEEEEEEHHHH!

			Stephen looks harriedly up from his table and gives Liralen a greatful
grin.

			He pulls four pins off his stickbag and sticks them to his lapel
					Straight But not Narrow
					(the pro-choice pin with the no coathangers symbol)
					This Explains Why My Clothes Stay on the Floor
					Dont Feed or Tease the Morris Dancers

			Thanks for all you said.
			By the way, how did your O&A effort go? I haven't heard anything further
about it

Stephen and Roo "I am not an eepsh" Sample
ssample1@cc.swarthmore.edu
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: The Difference Injure..
Date: 19 Nov 1992 16:19:59 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
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In article <1992Nov19.153157.6795@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>, rich@troll1.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Krum) writes:
>Violence, of course, has its plusses and minuses--but the few times the
>troll has used it, it has worked--

StM asks, "Is that how you got your system manager to fix your news software so
that it gives a working return address for you?"
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mtemplar@redunser.demon.co.uk (Alan Ralph)
Subject: Re: Invisible Feathers
Reply-To: mtemplar@redunser.demon.co.uk
Distribution: world
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Organization: Chez MonTemplar, Redunser
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:12:29 +0000

In article <memo.756720@cix.compulink.co.uk> maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>In-Reply-To: <1e9sk3INN1cp@escargot.xx.rmit.OZ.AU> s903040@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Christopher Francis Anderson)
>Anybody notice an echo in here? I've just noticed my Off-Line Reader 
>that I use for compulink and as a link to usenet has posted some of 
>my conmments to conferences three times. Hope I haven't been shouting 
>like that in here. It's not my fault - technology made me do it ;-)
>seriously - apologies if my messages have come through several times
>mary looks rather sheepish
>
>mary
>apprentice potter
>+-------------------------------------------+--------------------------+
>| Ommmmmm said the lift                     |maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk |
>|                                           |maryb@cix.compulink.uucp  |
>+-------------------------------------------+--------------------------+

Yep, saw two go by just now!

BTW, a belated welcome and a *hug*, Mary, as I managed to EXPIRE your first
posting before I had a change to reply.

MonTemplar
--
Alan Ralph, AKA Kimberley MonTemplar (when in alt.callahans)
aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk  OR  mtemplar@redunser.demon.co.uk
Cominatcha' c/o Demon Internet Services - Internet for a tenner+VAT a month!
Note: redunser is NOT associated with any other site of demon.co.uk
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Democracy
Date: 22 Nov 1992 19:08:02 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <By4pBF.CuC@cs.columbia.edu>, korz@cs.columbia.edu (Frederick Korz) writes:
=In article <By3nHK.M49@news.cso.uiuc.edu> trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
=>"email your [StM's] address to me....i am going to chambanacon this
=>weekend...i will get a copy and send it to you...."
=>
=>kitten is ever helpful when it comes to dispersing information.
=                                         ^^^^^^^^^^
=Frood wonders, "Is that like dispersing a crowd? ... 'O.K. now.  The
=show's over, there's nothing for you information here.  Go home.'"
=
=*chuckle*
=
="Or beaming it out into space, widest dispersion?"  :-)

StM, who's of the opinion that before one criticizes another's use of the
English language, one ought to be damned sure one understands the language
better than the person being critized does, points out, "Actually it IS. 
Kitten almost certainly did NOT mean `dispensing' information.  Her use of the
term "dispersing" was perfectly valid and appropriate. Heinlein was dispensing
information when he wrote the book.  I suppose you might've thought `disbursing'
would've been a more appropriate term, but I think not.  Dispersing it means
spreading it around.  When you disperse a crowd, you're causing it do spread
out.  Similarly with beaming something into space.  The odd thing about
information, though (and one that makes the economics of information rather
intractable, by he way) is that no matter how much you try to disperse it, the
amount in your own vicinity doesn't decrease."
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From: tje3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Subject: Re: Lamplighter's Re-Introduction
Originator: tje3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
Reply-To: tje3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Tammy Jo Eckhart)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 15:50:43 GMT

Barbara Trumpinski writes:
>kitten comes over to give the lamplighter a purple hug...(didn't
>realize you would fade /*).
>
>"it's so nice to have you home again..."

	The Lamplighter goes >urk< and then hugs Kitten back.  "It's good to
be back home again, kitten, and it's good to see you!"

	He looks kind of thoughtful, then, muttering, "I didn't know hugs
came in colors ... how'd you know purple was my favorite color?  I should put
that in my bio file; it's not there now ..."

-         -    -  - -=---------=----=--=-=#=========#====#==#=#*#########*####*
The Lamplighter             |"There's only so many times you can type 'Pat
(Tom Lee)                   | Buchanan' into a word processor before the
tje3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu | system crashes."                    -- Love & War
From: olson@husc8.harvard.edu (Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Rejoice, and Velvet reels
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:48:17 GMT
Organization: Spam-On-A-Rope Inc.
In-reply-to: mfbertke@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu's message of 18 Nov 92 17:17:04 -0500

In article <1992Nov18.171704.14309@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> mfbertke@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Mary Bertke....Gwen MacThaidhg) writes:

[reintroduction deleted]

>     Who else out there likes Celtic music?

"In a *BIG* way... Hi, I'm Castellan, showed up here almost a year ago (eek!),
probably in your absence since I don't recognize you. Welcome back!"


--
-Chip Olson. | olson@husc.harvard.edu | ceo@{gnu.ai,silver.lcs}.mit.edu 
"These are the days you might fill with laughter until you break. These days
you might feel a shaft of light make its way across your face... And when you 
do you'll know how it was meant to be..." -10,000 Maniacs, "These Are Days"
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: A Little Light
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:30:00 GMT

s9000938@aix00.csd.unsw.OZ.AU (Jacqueline Quennell) writes:

>In article <1992Nov13.185039.15139@data-io.com> li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus) writes:

>>Quietly she says, "Hey, DM.  Can you tell me about what the Australian
>>summer is like now?  I could use a little of it... 


>While I am sure that DM will reply to this - I couldn't resist the temptation
>to describe what I can see out the window:

>The day has been warm - about 28 degrees C (I can't remember what degrees F)
>and while it's cooling off now it's still warm enough for me to be sitting in
>my shorts (which is not a pretty sight).

>The sky is THE most amazing shades of orange and red with 3 cirrus clouds
>serving only to highlight the colours.

>In a couple of hours I'll have to go out for a while, and I'll put on jeans
>a t shirt and thongs as it will have cooled off a bit by then.

>So thats a pleasant day as summer is almost upon us in Australia.

Hah!  Half your luck ... over here in the West we're recovering from the
coldest November days on record, with *snow* recorded in several SW towns. 
It's actually starting to warm up again, but slowly.  Then again, a few
weeks back we did get to about 35 degrees C (90-ish F).  Maybe by mid-week
... (I haven't seen a forecast yet).

Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
*        Murdoch University              phone:  ++ 61 (09) 360-2843 (work)*
*        Murdoch WA 6150  AUSTRALIA              ++ 61 (09) 417-3902 (home)*
*************************** "To Love is to _LIVE_!" ************************
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From: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mary Branscombe)
Subject: Re: Cyber (was Introduction was Eh?)
Reply-To: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 15:01:00 +0000


>"I don't even remember the name of the first Sci
>Fi book I read.  It was written by M. L'Engle and
>was about some kids who meet with a Mrs. Which
>and tesseract and such.  It is a classic I just
>can't remember the name of it.

Oh yes! Madelain L'Engle - I read it when I was ill 10/12 years ago - 
something about folding space - if the insect is crawling along the 
paper you can *fold* it to get him there faster. Oh! What's it 
called! Needles? Aaargh! Tesseracts....
Mary is scratching wildly at her hair which turns into a terrible 
mess...
Oh please, put me out of my misery someone! Excellent book I recall.I 
can't remember teh first SF I read. John Wyndam' trouble with Lichen? 
The Robot and Foundatoin stories? I got a huge pile of 15 Asimov 
books for Christmas when I was 8. And this warped outlook is 
*definitely* the result. Straight on to Anne McCaffrey and H Beam 
Piper after that. Any H Beam Piper fans here? But those 
tesseracts....
Mary returns to scratching her head
+-------------------------------------------+--------------------------+
| Ommmmmm, said the lift                    |maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk |
| Organisation: Me? You're joking, right?   |maryb@cix.compulink.uucp  |
|I know I type "teh" for "the" My fingers have their own accent ;-)    |
+-------------------------------------------+--------------------------+

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: pope@physics.su.OZ.AU (The Nightstalker)
Subject: Re: God and Science:  The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:26:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.093721.18637@muddcs.claremont.edu> dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green) writes:
>In article <1dvmuuINNrqt@phakt.usc.edu> pechever@phakt.usc.edu (Paul Echeverri) writes:
>
>*sigh*  Anyone else want to take a bash at Christianity, while the topic's
>out?  Please, I've had a bad past couple of weeks, why not just go the whole
>nine yards, and make me completely miserable?  Haven't you people heard of
>tact?  Yes, I will admit that Nightstalker's statement about 'Eastern
>religions' was a little narrow... but that's no reason to retaliate in what
>you see as being similar suit.
>

The Nightstalker reappears from the shadows.

"Does anyone know where the books are kept in this place, I need something
on EASTERN RELIGIONS AND BELIEF SYSTEMS.  BTW, Mike could you get
Mishael anything that he would like to drink/eat/whatever, and tell him
that I'll be wherever the books are kept here if he wants a chat."


--

Mick Pope,                                          I      "On Christ the
Sir Frank Packer Dept of Theoretical Physics,   ----+----   solid rock I
School of Physics, University of Sydney,            I       stand, all other
Sydney, Australia, 2006.  (02) 692 3241             I       ground is sinking
                                                    I       sand." - C. Wesley
                                                    I 

And the comment for today is:  

          
 As JFK once said: "I am a chocolate covered doughnut."
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Subject: Re: No subject
From: olson@husc8.harvard.edu (Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there)
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:59:54
Organization: Spam-On-A-Rope Inc.
In-reply-to: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk's message of Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:17:00 +0000

In article <memo.761158@cix.compulink.co.uk> maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mary Branscombe) writes:

>In-Reply-To: <1992Nov19.181533.17616@husc3.harvard.edu> olson@husc9.Harvard.EDU (Charles Olson)
>
>Castellan - glad to help! Have a hug back!

"Kind of difficult (albeit not impossible) to give a hug without getting one
at the same time... that's why I like to give them so much."

>I *do* like this place. Even when we charge around on our soap-boxes 
>and tread on each other's feet, it always feels friendly and warm and 
>*nice* Bet we can even get some back-rub sessions going here...

"There's always at least one backrub going on somewhere here; may I offer
you one?" 

>Mary is definitely in a good mood now - thanks Castellan!

"Hey, you're the one who put me in the good mood in the first place" replies
Castellan, cracking his knuckles and shaking out his hands.  "But feedback
and affirmation are always good things, I believe."
 
>can I ask? *Why* do you put spam onto a rope? And what do you *do* 
>with it then? (I *think* I want to know!)

"Well, it's like this", says Castellan as he begins to work the knots out
of Mary's back, "Spam on a Rope is like Soap on a Rope, except it's Spam on
the rope instead of soap, so if you're eating a nice big hunk of Spam and
suddenly need to go do something else you can hang it up on something and
it'll still be there when you get back, or for that matter when the archae-
ologists dig it up 10,000 years from now... OK, OK, forget all that; I was
listening to some radio station where they announced some parody of a contest,
and one of the supposed prizes was Spam on a Rope.  I don't know why it struck
me so funny, but I rolled on the floor for fifteen minutes, and subsequently
decided it would make an appropriately silly Organization: line."

--
-Chip Olson. | olson@husc.harvard.edu | ceo@{gnu.ai,silver.lcs}.mit.edu 
"These are the days you might fill with laughter until you break. These days
you might feel a shaft of light make its way across your face... And when you 
do you'll know how it was meant to be..." -10,000 Maniacs, "These Are Days"
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mary Branscombe)
Subject: Re:  Science and god:  Are they incompatible?  If so, why?
Reply-To: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:20:00 +0000


>Abner looks insulted.  "Calling me lovely is inaccurate but OK.  Calling me
>knotty I don't understand, but it sounds ... suspicious.  But calling me
>a 'lovely knotty problem Abner' is not to be bourne!"

>*grin*

>"Mary, if you are so brave, may I offer you a mixture of Dr. Pepper and
>cranberry juice to drink?  Mike, this is on my tab, OK?"

"why thank you, Abner" says Mary, carefully putting the comma in this 
time! "If you *are* knotty, it probably means you need a back rub to 
get rid of some tension and I'd be glad to oblige. I'm told I'm good 
at back rubs..." She rolls up her sleeves in anticipation

mary
apprentice potter - tomorrow I may finish my first real pot.....

+-------------------------------------------+--------------------------+
| Ommmmmm, said the lift                    |maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk |
| Organisation: Me? You're joking, right?   |maryb@cix.compulink.uucp  |
|I know I type "teh" for "the" My fingers have their own accent ;-)    |
+-------------------------------------------+--------------------------+

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Why I don't use the word "Love" very much
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:52:01 GMT

[Not posted to any groups outside alt.callahans that I don't read...]

"This makes me think of what a friend was telling me about Kim Stanley
Robinson's novella(?), "A Short Sharp Shock".  It's about two people stranded
on a desert island, who gradually come to realize that they speak slightly
different languages.  In particular, when he says 'I love you', she hears this
as, 'I'm going to leave you'.  I'm looking forward to actually >reading< this
story someday..."

--
---Alfvaen(Looking for "October's Baby")
"Lucille was secretly thrilled when Norman sucked her toaster."
   ---B. Kliban
Current Album--Holly Cole Trio:Girl Talk
Current Read--M.J. Engh:Arslan
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From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
Subject: Re: An Introduction
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:00:00 GMT

In article <20NOV199200171179@romeo.caltech.edu> dkrum@romeo.caltech.edu (Krum, David Michael) writes:
>The crowd has hushed a bit.  Dave looks around for some kind of response.
>
>"Dad," he whispers to Boss Troll, "What is this place anyway?  Did I touch on
>some cultural taboo here?  Is this a bar?  Is this virtual reality?  Is this
>cyberspace?  Is this the holodeck or 10-forward?"

"All the above and then some." says a rather plain looking Asian woman,
about 5'10" tall, in black sweatpants, khaki green sweatshirt, neon *PINK*
hightops, and a bit big for her lettermens jacket that has a big orange
calTech on it.  "Hi, I'm Liralen Li, a Lloydie of '85."  She grins,
"Dan'l's around here, somewhere, too, he's of my House and class.  My
hubby's John Rostykus, Lloydie, '86, who was roommate to Dave Gallup, one
of the few Lloydies who were also initiated as a Page Boy due to social
ties.  I was also a social Flem in my time."

She grins at all the baffled looks from everyone else.  "First thing every
Techer asks another Techer is 'What House?'."

"Hmmm..." says Liralen, looking at all the questions, "No taboos.  I don't
think there *are* any anymore.  Out and out name calling/ 'flaming' as
it's known elsewhere on the net is pretty much out.  It's sorta a bar.
'Where everyone knows your name.' Especially with your dad already pretty
active here.  VR?  Yup.  Using verbal cues as the medium.  Seems to work
pretty good.  Cyberspace?  Yup."  She chuckles at the last two,
"Youngsters." she says softly, smiling, seeming to ignore the fact that
she's been carded the last three times she's been in a RL bar.  And the
last time she was dressed the way she was, she was carded by a grocery
store clerk who had apologized profusely after doing so and blushed while
he said that in the lettermen's jacket she looked like a high school boy.

She blinks to see the grocery store counter and the clerk, and at the 
blink, it all disappears. 

"Yup.  Anything's possible..."
-- 
Liralen Li           | "... and how you feel can make it real  | - _US_
aka Phyllis Rostykus | Real as anything you've seen            |   Peter
li@Data-IO.com       | Get a life with this dreamer's dream."  |   Gabriel
From: 9111123@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: <None>
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:00:00 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland


  Exactly how do you get to the MIA list?*I was on one before but I walked back
into base 3 hours later since the $%^#ing damn truck left without me.


********************************************************************************
* Coyote          *   "Four things greater than all things are,                *
*  9111123@ul.ie  *     Women and horses and power and War"                    *
*                 *      Rudyar Kipling(maker of exceedingly good cakes)       *
* I would be greatly susprised if anyone shared my views:disclaimer            *
********************************************************************************
  
 Remember kids_*DONT*_ try this at home as the Feds will find you.

 Also I have no connections with any paramilitary,military,civilian or political
organisations that infringe on the defence of the state act 1939(?) or any 
 subsequent laws relating to the posession of firearms,explosives,pyrotechnics,
or membership of a proscribed organisation, nor do I wish  to at this time,or at
 any time in the forseeable future,nor do I wish to infrige any law which would
result in the destablising of the state,death,injury,or maiming of another,or in
 the damage or destruction of another person`s,company`s,or state`s properties.

                   **SO DONT BOTHER ME ABOUT ANY OF THESE**
From: ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Science and god:  Are they incompatible?  If so, why?
Date: 23 Nov 1992 07:35:32 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: degas.wag.caltech.edu


>>Yes, but you can't put a deity in an accelerator and see what energy it takes
>>to split him into demigods ...  Meanwhile, we chemists have a long history of
>>dealing with deities!  Mercury, for example ...

Michael Writes:
>	"And I point out that chemists dealing with Mercury made
>themselves exemplars of the old adage that `Whom the gods would
>destroy, they first make mad.'  :-) 

Nonsense!  Mercury poisoning was a mark of greatness for many centuries.
Isaac Newton, for example, probably never would have imagined the idea of 
an inverse square law if he hadn't been stoned out of his gourd on Mercury
and organic solvents ...

>How recently is it that chemists
>have reliably followed safety procedures which had some chance of
>preventing various esoteric sorts of poisoning?  (And never mind the
>various proto-chemical disciplines, East and West, in which ingesting
>mercury compounds was intended to have beneficial effects.)  

Well, when physicists first found the radioactive minerals, they encouraged
people to go bathe in radioactive springs in Germany for the sake of their
health!  =8)

(Also, small doses of radium were sold to people to be ingested as a
vitamin ...)

>One can
>only imagine what will happen if we let them handle Yahweh without
>proper safety precautions.  

Well, Raiders of the Lost Arc comes to mind ...  Say, do you think we could
get the Arc of the Covenant out of storage, and use it as bait?

>(Proper guarding against high-voltage
>static electricity is probably a minimum first step.)  :-) :-)"

Sniff.  I hate it when I'm grounded ...

Still, could be worse.  If you think Yanweh's lightning bolts were bad,      
imagine if we tried to capture Thor!

Hmmm.  I wonder.  Properly harnessed, do you think we could use Thor to
regenerate the ozone layer?

Definitely time to write up a research proposal and try for some grants!
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