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From: curt@access.digex.com (curt williams)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Thai kickboxing
Date: 3 Jan 1993 22:26:58 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: usa
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In article <MARY.93Jan3102425@cuba.Cayman.COM> mary@Cayman.COM (Mary Malmros) writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan03.023955.1546@microsoft.com> bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver) writes:
>
>  >/(me)
>  >/   Much of what I found out about taekwondo was that it was impractical in
>  >/   street defense, because so much of it depended on flamboyant kicking.  

I must have been practicing some other TaeKwonDo for (am I allowed to say
how many?) years.  Too many........

The flamboyant kicking (which I'll concede does exist) is the special talent
of TaeKwonDo; consequently practictioners like to show it off.  Admittedly,
many of the so-called "new masters" (especially those from the Yudo School
mafia) only know the Olympic style.  But the old guys have a whole range
of tools in their toolbox, including a whole martial art known as HoShinSool.

If you think TaeKwonDo is impractical for street defense, I encourage you
to look at
       1)  your own personal commitment to training (i.e.  95% of street
           defense talents results from sweat paid in the gym)  That's
           why a well coached high school wrestler (and a lot of junior
           high wrestlers) and most boxers can kick most martial artists
           butt.  I'm refering here to TKD people, so I'm goring my own ox.

       2) qualifications of your instructor.  If you've spent 6 months
          honestly training and don't feel you can reasonably defend
          yourself, it's time to switch (unless you were in really bad
          shape (or should I say "challenged physically"?) to begin
          with.  I trained many a private at Infantry Training School
          (Camp LeJeune, NC) and while they weren't Bruce Lee, they could
          certainly handle most of what typically comes down the pike 
          in far less time.

I don't want to upset anyone and I hear what you're saying, but it's
not TKD's fault-- it's the instructor or the student's own fault.

This is, of course, my humble opinion-- but nothing pisses me off more
than to hear about students who are making honest effort to learn (any)
martial art, but aren't being honestly trained by the boss.
From: bleys@wisdom.bubble.org (Bill Cavanaugh)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Thai kickboxing
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:07:58 GMT
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises, Inc.

In article <1992Dec27.035210.23364@microsoft.com> bobsarv@microsoft.com (Bob Sarver) writes:
>
[stuff about muy thai deleted]

Just an aside...  Kickboxer with Van Damme.

bill
-- 
 *         Bill Cavanaugh       bleys@wisdom.bubble.org          *
XY + XX = :-)
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From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: Kendo Newbie Question
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 22:29:14 GMT

cescript@mtu.edu (Charles Scripter) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.162306.12192@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com
>(Mr. X) writes:

   [stuff deleted]

>I would recommend you initially just visit the dojo and watch a pratice.
>After that, if you decide to stay, most instructors will ask you to buy
>a Shinai (the bamboo sword).  A Gi and Hakama is extra expense that may
>not be necessary immediately; Usually "sweats" are adequate for practice,
>but ask your instructor...  In fact, it might be useful to wear sweats
>to your first visit; The instructor may ask you to come practice.

  Pardon my newbie, but what is a Hakama, is this the black loose-fitting
pants/smock that I associate with Aikido wizards?

>Absolutely correct on both points.  It's normal for "beginners" to
>spend 2 or 3 weeks learning to walk correctly...  (assuming you're
>on the fast track... ;-).

Now this is intrigueing!
Thanks to all for responding.
-- 
Pete Hurd, hurd@sfu.ca| Q: Why did the Jungle Fowl cross the road?          |
Behavioural Ecology   | A: To maximize it's lifetime reproductive success   |
Dept.Biol.Sci., SFU.  | Q: Huh?                                             |
Burnaby B.C., Canada  | A: I guess it just needed to get to the other side. |
From: coombs@ivan.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Palo Alto: T'ai Chi, Pa Kua
Date: 29 Dec 92 08:56:03 GMT
Reply-To: coombs@ivan.uucp ()
Organization: IRIS - Brown University

Can anyone give recommendations on T'ai Chi or Pa Kua in Palo Alto.  I
have found only one listing in the phone book.  It looks good, but I
would like to hear from people who have studied at any schools in the
vicinity.  Thanks.  --Jim
From: tk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Tommy Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Trouble on the Train
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:48:25 GMT
Reply-To: tk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Tommy Kelly)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

This concerns legal issues in Scotland - hit 'n' or forever haud yer peace.

On a train journey recently a woman - possibly drunk - was causing some hassle.
She began simply shouting and cursing and making a nusiance of herself.
She pulled the emergency stop cord at one point, and began throwing
her shoes (and odd other items of clothing) around.
She then starting hauling some folks personal belongings off shelves.

At that point, the train was stopped and the police called for.

While stopped, we - the passengers - were left on the train while the
guard, conductor and driver stood on the platform.  When asked about this,
the guard removed us from the carriage leaving the woman to smash things up.

Noone at any point tried to restrain the woman.

When asked about *that* we were told quite simply that it was illegal.

Does anyone know what the Scottish legal situation really is?

Assuming the woman did not attack anyone, is it really the case that
we were powerless to intervene?
What *is* a citizen's arrest?  When and how can it be used?

tommy
From: gints@prophet.esd.sgi.com (Gints Klimanis)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: MOTHER PICKS UP CAR
Date: 4 Jan 93 00:04:24 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: prophet.esd.sgi.com

In article <93003.025709U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>, U16244@uicvm.uic.edu
(David James Alexander Hanley) writes:
|> In article <1287@xlnt.COM>, david@elwood.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (David
|> Johnson)
|> says:
|> >
|> >PCP exhibiting the strength of several men.  My theory of why one
|> >normally cannot lift a car is not because your muscles are
|> physically
|> >incapable of generating the necessary power but rather that
|> defensive
|> >mechanism built in your body prevents you from doing such things to
|> >prevent injury.  Have you ever noticed that whenever you do get an
|> >injury you unconsciously protect it?  I think PCP suppresses this
|> mechanism
|> >and that is how PCP users are able to generate such power.  My guess
|> is
|> >that these people are tearing up their own tissues at the same time
|> >they are throwing police and ambulance workers around or breaking
|> >restraints.

In much body building literature, physiologists often describe muscle
fiber recruit lists, in which specific fibers are used first.  They also
say that unconditioned humans use few of their available muscle fibers. 
As muscle fiber groups are conditioned, your nervous system adapts to
the work by firing up additional muscle fibers.  This seems to explain
rapid strength increases during the first few months of weight
training.

I casually speculate that PCP messes with your nervous system such that
a greater percentage of muscle fibers are recruited to perform.
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: jon@zeus.med.utah.edu (Jonathan Byrd)
Subject: Re: More Questions
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 17:27:59 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of Utah

In article <1hjrd3INNh5a@agate.berkeley.edu> actize@garnet.berkeley.edu () writes:


   Hello netters.  What's the counter to this move ?   Attacker & Defender face 
   each other as boxer usually do.  Attacker kicks defender in midsection with 
   rear foot.  Defender drops lead hand to down to deflect kick.  Attacker steps 
   in and punches the defender, who dropped his guard deflecting the kick . ???  

It is common for beginners to stand immobile, and try to block
everything thrown at them.  This tendency contributes to the enormous
success of combination techniques.

Try moving your body out of the path of the kick.  Then you will be
free to use your arms and legs to strike your opponent.

   Second Question:  What's a good way to improve hand speed the easy way
   (i.e. not "after being punched 100 times you'll be able to block it") ?  

Without having seen you, the best all-purpose advice I can give you to
increase your speed is this: Relax your body.

--
jonathan byrd
jon@apollo.med.utah.edu
From: robear@access.digex.com (Robear)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: A western scientific look at Ki
Followup-To: rec.martial-arts
Date: 22 Dec 1992 16:50:20 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Dec17.043458.9486@reed.edu> mnoell@reed.edu (I'm done dammit!!!) writes:
>
>
>	Please pardon my ignorance and skepticism, but can anyone document
>these episodes in which a mother lifts a car to save her child?  I too have
>heard these stories, but it has never happened to me.  In fact it has never even
>happened to anyone I know.  I'm not saying it cannot happen, rather I  am 
>asking for first hand evidence.  This is the sort of story we would all like 
>to believe, but I have never encountered anything more substanitive than 
>rumor.  Thanks for any help.
>
>
>Max

Check the newpapers for a reasonably large city; it'll happen a few times a year.
the last I remember in this area was last Spring in No. Va.  A mother was able
to stop her station wagon when it rolled down a  mildly sloped drivewy
towards her child, then called for help while holding the car in place.
She ended up in the hospital for a bit, probably with back problems.

Since I could, when training for cross country, lift the rear wheels of
a small or medium sized car off the ground for a few seconds, I assume
that it is possible for most people if adrenalinized.  It is mostly leg
and lower back strength.

	David "OOO...plastic bumpers" Pipes
 

Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: drury@helix.nih.gov (Richard Drury)
Subject: Re: Just Curious...
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 03:49:29 GMT

hahn@plugh.network.com (Peter Hahn) writes:
>Most every account I've seen agrees that modern day boxing was developed
>by English fencing masters around the end of the eighteenth century, and
>was, initially, sort of an empty-hand version of their sword-and-buckler
>style.

What's the "buckler" in sword-and-buckler?
--
Richard A. Drury
drury@helix.nih.gov
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: schan@birch.srg.af.mil (Stephen Chan x4485)
Subject: Re: Kotegaeshi (wrist/forearm technique)
Organization: SRG, Arinc Research Corp., Annapolis, MD
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 14:43:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.152254.3652@crash> jfrost@crash.cts.com (Julian Frost) writes:
>Kote Gaeshi should involve twisting the hand towards the elbow of the
>attacker, while turning your own body out of the line of attack.  The
>combination of your movement, his movement and the fact that you are
>extending his wrist in a direction that it *normally* bends, causes
>your partner (attacker) to loose his balance and be thrown.  Julian

	I've had a nasty kote-gaeshi variant practiced on me by seniors which
involved bending the wrist enough for leverage, and then rotating it along the
axis of the forearm (as well as some wrist bending). It was significantly more
persuasive.
	It was considered a kote-gaeshi. It seems to me that the seniors, after
years of practice, had an intuitive feel for how to convert the nice, canonical
Aikido technique into a a more vicious variant.
--
	Stephen Chan
	uunet!srg!schan or uunet!srg!schan@uunet.uu.net
From: hess@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.misc
Subject: rec.bike
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:01:27 GMT



Excuse me, but can anyone tell me what happened to Rec.bicyling? I have been
off the network for 2 months and it seems to have disapeared?desperately,
jo

Newsgroups: rec.misc,misc.headlines,alt.good.news,alt.newbies,alt.newbie,junk
From: muhamk@microsoft.com (Muhammad Karim)
Subject: Import/Export
Date: 28 Dec 92 11:23:09 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: Import/Export

I am interested in starting import/export business.  i

would like some help with a product line which could be

sold through Pakistan Television or Print Media.



If you have or know someone who has any product that can

be sold through the media please contact me,  i will be

happy to discuss in details.



I would appreciate all the help i can get.  Please email

me directly at muhamk@microsoft.com.



Thanks.

   
Newsgroups: rec.misc,misc.headlines,alt.good.news,alt.newbie
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: Import/Export
Originator: guckes@medusa
Keywords: Import/Export
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 00:06:54 GMT

This-one:  muhamk@microsoft.com (Muhammad Karim)
posted to: rec.misc,misc.headlines,alt.good.news,alt.newbies,alt.newbie,junk
and said:  (read on)

>I am interested in starting import/export business.  i
>would like some help with a product line which could be
>sold through Pakistan Television or Print Media.
>
>If you have or know someone who has any product that can
>be sold through the media please contact me,  i will be
>happy to discuss in details.
>
>I would appreciate all the help i can get.  Please email
>me directly at muhamk@microsoft.com.

This's bait, right ?

ALT.GOOD.NEWS FLASH:
Today, Muhammad "Newbie Junk Poster" Karim, made my kill file!

-- 
Sven@microsoft.good.NOT | When did you post to news group "junk" last time ?
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: halvorsen_ralph@mac-mailserver.atc.ll.mit.edu ("Halvorsen Ralph")
Subject: Paul Bentkowski
Date: 31 Dec 92 10:11:21 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

Okay, I'll try this method again since I can't seem to get thru to Paul......
To: Paul J. Bentkowski

Paul,
I don't get the rec.humor board and you have peaked my curiosity. Could you
e-mail the Ten Reasons? I DO HAVE A SENSE OF HUMOR........


Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Subject: Re: Nice Gun or Hunting Clubs?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
Date: 29 Dec 92 09:30:36 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


Growing up in Central Texas of German-Czech extraction, I miss
the Scheutzenvereins. There, the whole family would come and 
target shoot at the local range often run by the Sons of Hermann.
(A fraternal org. of descendants of thoriginal German settlers
of Texas. Barbecue, beer and singing by the Saengerrunde would
occur too. They still exist, but not near ($%#@#) Interstate 95.
-- 
Ted....
From: shaffer@achilles.ctd.anl.gov (Michael A. Shaffer)
Subject: Re: Wolves!
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory
Date: 23 Dec 92 10:02:15 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

>Anyway, I happen to agree with your view, it is a shame we can't have
>our wild areas *and* housing developments too. If any real geniuses in
>the real estate development business ever figures out how to do this
>they will make more money than the gov't can print!

Here is an idea for all you developers out there. Use it free of
charge. Make underground dwellings built into the side of a mound
or hill. Then reforest over top of it.

				mike


Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: gray@hawkmoon.mn.org (Bill Gray)
Subject: New pro-gun, pro-hunting BBS opening in Minnesota
Organization: Demi-Public System (One of the Eternal Champions); Eagan, MN, 55123-2507, USA
Date: 31 Dec 92 10:10:50 CST
Summary: New pro-gun, pro-hunting BBS opening in Minneapolis, MN
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu
Keywords: BBS, pro-gun, pro-hunting, Minnesota


The Gun Owner's Action League (of Minnesota) is happy to announce
the opening of a new 7-day, 24 hour BBS devoted to the promotion and
preservation of firearms and hunting rights.

The number is (612) 493-3558.  The modem is a 14,400 bps Cardinal.  Use
8 data bits, no parity, 1 stop bit.

Your first access requires that you fill out a questionnaire.  After you
complete the questionnaire, the sysop will review it and assign a full user
profile to you.  After your user profile is assigned, you have normal
upload and download privileges.

FWIW, the system is a Wildcat BBS running under Desqview.

The BBS, named the Minnesota MinuteMan, is in the process of joining the
Paul Revere network of pro-gun, pro-hunting BBSs.  We invite your
participation and contributions.

Bill Gray,
Membership Director, GOAL
-- 
gray@hawkmoon.mn.org
This site gets a fair news feed, but e-mail is more reliable. . . :-(
"Veni, vidi, vomiti!"  -- the ghost of Tom Jefferson on reading the Brady Bill


Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: Gregory.Dilley@EBay.Sun.COM
Subject: Mitchell Arms .45 long Colt
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: 21 Dec 92 10:17:30 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

Anyone have any input on this gun? It's listed as a single action
army revolver, .45 long Colt, 4-3/4" barrel, fixed sights, 6 shot,
in nickel.

Also, does anyone have any idea of the quality of Mitchell Arms?

The gun is listed in a catalogue for $277.95....

Greg



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From: bbx!therev!archive@unmvax.cs.unm.edu (Rec.Hunting Archives)
Subject: Administrivia - the Rec.Hunting Archives
Organization: Los Alamos Case and Cartridge
Date: 31 Dec 92 10:10:41 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu
Keywords: Administrivia, Archives, Monthly

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Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: earp@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J.Kevin Earp)
Subject: Re: Raising and Releasing Game Birds... Advice Needed
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: 31 Dec 92 10:11:00 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Dec30.144343.5655@doug.cae.wisc.edu> todd@refrig.dixie.com (Todd H.) writes:
>richm@bella.corp.sgi.com (Rich McKay) writes:
>
>>My family owns a cattle ranch in South Central Nevada and we are
>>interested in raising and releasing game birds in order to establish a
>>self sustaining population.  There is a small native population of
>>sage hens already on the property, and we have also seen several small
>>bunches of chukar.  We were thinking of raising and releasing chukar
>>and quail.  There were populations of both in the past, but they have
>>dwindled over the last few years due in part to the increase in the
>>number of coyotes and hawks.
>
>The best advice is: DON'T DO IT.  If you release pen-raised birds into
>the area, you'll probably lose the native populations you've already
>got to the increased predator population that the pen-raised birds
>will attract.

I guess this doesn't surprise me, but I would like to suggest an 
alternative: alter the environment.  Either find a way to make it less
friendly for the coyotes and hawks, or more friendly with better cover 
for the game birds you want.  In Ohio, I believe it was morning doves
and/or quail that were nearly wiped out.  Sportsmen's clubs around the
state sought permission from landowners and set up coveys wherever 
possible.  The population is back to a reasonable level for the 
food and area available now.  

Hope this suggestion is helpful.




Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: bakc@giraffe.ru.ac.za (MR KR COMAN)
Subject: Re: Removing lead fouling...
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa
Date: 31 Dec 92 10:11:10 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Dec28.083443.29646@doug.cae.wisc.edu> SCHULTZ@admin1.usask.ca (Robert Schultz) writes:
>From: SCHULTZ@admin1.usask.ca (Robert Schultz)
>Subject: Removing lead fouling...
>Date: 28 Dec 92 14:34:43 GMT
>
>Netters:
>	I picked this tip off the HBD (HomeBrewDigest) and found it to
>be useful here too (kind of my Christmas Present to you all).
>
>	To remove lead fouling from barrels use a solution of hydrogen
>peroxide and vinegar (mix 50/50).  This solution produces peracetic
>acid (approximately 5%) which eats (oxidizes) lead and leaves almost
>everything else alone!  Plug one end of the barrel and pour it in,
>shake around every once in a while and pour out the lead salts after a
>few hours.
>
>	I have tried this and it works great!  However I am not a
>chemist and have inquired to a few, the response follows:
>
>I do not claim any responsiblitiy blah, blah, blah, blah blah......
>
>
>Robert


	A dude over in Rec.Guns claims to have tried this mixture.  He 
reports the chemical reaction was so intense that it trashed a 45ACP barrel
-- check it out, boyos.

Keith
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
"If we pay dogfood salespeople more than we   :  Dept of Management
 do teachers, we should not be surprised if   :  Rhodes University
 our dogs eat like kids, and our kids end     :  Grahamstown, 6140
 up reading like dogs."                       :  Rep of South Africa
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Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: ut-emx!shawn@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Shawn Boyd)
Subject: Re: Crossbows
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas
Date: 21 Dec 92 10:18:19 CST
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu


In article <1992Dec14.073259.22171@doug.cae.wisc.edu> peterson@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (John M. Peterson) writes:
>
>    My experience with crossbows are limited,but,I had
>bought one of the cheaper model recurves(a Barnett,I
>believe).                                  ^^^^^^
                                            whoops 

>The third bow literally exploded when I got done assembling it!
>The little plastic tips on the end of the limbs were not put
>on properly.This time I just got my money back.

 Rather than risk a flame by offering an opinion of Barnetts let me
 just say that my first compound was a Barnett Sioux.  I never dry fired  
 it and shot the proper weighted arrows.  Less than a year after I got 
 the bow, it broke at the limb split, and released the wheel and pulley
 while I was anchored at full draw.  Dangerous to say the least.  I took
 the bow back and foolishly accepted a replacement.  The same thing happened.

 'Nuff said.

 Shawn


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