From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: FALCON
Date: 25 Aug 1992 16:23:51 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug25.143553.14540@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> an375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jason Baker) writes:
>
>In a previous article, baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer) says:
>>	Sure, but CD players are cheap and due to the amount of components
>>manufactured for them, I am sure that their components are cheap enough to
>>be incorporated on the Falcon.  So beware - it may very well be the same
>>D/A that Sony uses.  Or Kawai. :)
>>
>	Wouldn't cd player hardware have a fixed rate of 41khz (or is it 44)?

	(44KHz).  Nah, (just about) the only useful component from a CD player
would be the D/A and the oversampling/MASH hardware.  None of that is sample
rate dependant (other than spec. min/maxs).

>>	Besides, I get the feeling from reading the origonal post that he will
>>be more upset by the fact that I am pretty sure the Falcon has only one set of
>>stereo out (and in) jacks, with the 8 channels internally mixed for output onto
>>the one output jack - not as he was saying 8 separate/independant external 
>>stereo outputs.  As such, you are not going to be able to use it as a mixer.  
>>It does mean it can handle 8 separate channels of audio info, and let you mix 
>>them internally.
>	To me, it would seem more usefull to process one live instrument while
>doing various fucked up loops in real time.

	Well, with only one input, that is all you are really gonna be able to
(independently) control.  

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>>>the primary function of the machine, as with a CD player), you'll only
>>>really get about 12-14 bits worth of real-world resolution.  This
>>>is marvelous for most applications (like adding little sound effects
>>>to your desktop), but not good enough for real studio work.

>	It seems like it would also be enough for live work.  Aren't some
>older samplers only 12 bits?  And weren't the first cd players 14?

	Yes, and yes, but I believe the original poster goofed by putting 
"professional" in his post, and got jumped on.  I guess "near professional" 
would be more accurate (and being subject to interpretation, he wouldn't be 
labled wrong out of hand).  I am still a little fuzzy on his "real-world" 
resolution.  I mean, since when is a studio a real world anyway (or a home 
studio for that matter).  If he is talking about how well it deals with 
interference... well, unless you are in a nice, insulated studio, the mics will
pick up noise, and of course cables can be very antenna like...I should
think that noize generated by your A/D connector would be rather minimal
(unless of course it is a really bad/cheap A/D that produces noize on
the input line).  However, since I am hardly a music studio tech., these
are merely the ramblings of a frustrated EE student (almost grad).

>>>(Also, when you get a Falcon, take a look at the audio out system.  I
>>>bet you it's not anywhere near as noise-free as the out of an AKAI
>>>sampler.)

>Noise is good!  I just got an album called white noise and there was hardly
>any :(.

	Well, gee, was there any yellow or blue noize?  I'm sure a nice muave
noise would be good to do homework by... :)

>-- 
>"I dont want to erad this sick s**t what the hell is wrong with people who 
>think theyre elves?"  I'm not sure which way to interpret that.
>" I can type and I will not be judged by tping skills"
>"cross yourself.  scream once more.  move yourself across the floor."


-Mike