HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns)
Subject: Re: Oct 1, our National Day
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:54:26 GMT

In article <liqiang.718561083@kramden> liqiang@kramden.nyu.edu (Li) writes:
> usenet@news.acns.nwu.edu (Usenet on news.acns) writes:
> 
> >Yue Fei might be a communist, who knows? Maybe communism was not introduced  
> 		    !!!!!!!!!  ?????????  ^^^^^
> >into China but exported to Eurpoe. Knowing this, it is not so strange to  
know  
> 				    ^^^^^^^^^^^^                          ^^^^
> 				    So u know "this"?
> >the CCP is still trying hard to keep China as a last base of communism. They  
do  
> >it to keep our tradition of everyone should have an fair even share.
> 
> >Carl
> 
> 
> Question A: Do u see the contradiction?
> 
> Question B: Is this posting a junk?
> 
> 
> - Li, Qiang
> 
> 
> 
> Peter Piper picked a peck of little pepper.
> Old McDonald has a farm, eieio,...


Look,  Mr. Li! I don't know whether you are too picky or you are too stupid to  
comprehend my point.  By using "knowing this", I mean "knowing the possibility  
that Yue Fei might be (joking) a communist". The problem is you do not have the  
ability to understand what "this" means. I forgive you. Donate some money to  
Lix, please. This is the answer for your question A.

As for question B, I think it is better first ask yourself. Do you regard you  
above post as junk too. Please donate money to Lix for the second time. 

In fact, my post is kinda of a joke. Apperently you took it so seriously.  
Please donate your money to Mr. Hou2 Bao3Lin2, our cross-talk master. Also,  
please be prepare for donation for the fourth, fifth, sixth, ... nth times.

The reason why I raise the issue that communist MIGHT not be imported from  
Eurpoe is because I see some Chinese are so suitable to live in a communist  
country. Of course it is just a joke. I would not ask you to donate this time. 

Work hard and save money for the future donations.

Thank you.
 
Keep healthy by laughing occasionally!

Carl
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cw@orion.uucp (C.W. Chung)
Subject: Re: FWD:
Organization: Objectivity Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 19:26:49 GMT

In article <92289.204309SXS30@psuvm.psu.edu> SXS30@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>The following article comes from other news group.
>I find the article is very informative and would like to have
>SCCer to share it.
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>       D O E S   A M E R I C A   S A Y   Y E S   T O   J A P A N ?
>    (A M E R I C A   W A   N I H O N   N I   "H A I"   T O   I U K A)
.....
>     As an example of the no-foreign ownership rule, the recent baseball
>team fiasco comes to mind: Nintendo recently bought the Seattle Mariners
>Pro Baseball team. It is in great irony that it is illegal under Japanese
>law for an American to buy (very lucrative) Japanese Pro baseball teams
>(from ABC News Nightline).

Just want to correct a factual mistake (in the sport I love so much :-):

No, Nintendo does NOT own Seattle Mariners.  

The Major League Baseball bylaws do not allowed anyone or any company 
oustide of USA/Canada to own a major league baseball club, much like 
that of Japan.  

Seattle Mariners had been in financial trouble for quite some time, 
and the prior owner want to either to sell to a local investor group or
move the team elsewhere (e.g. Tampa).  The city does not want to lose
the team, but local investor group does not have enough money.  So the
group turn to a Japanese baseball fan for help. Of course, it is not
average joe like you or me. He was indeed a major shareholder of Nintendo,
but he put up his own money to the tune of something like $50 million(?).
He said he did it beacause he loved baseball and he didn't want Seattle
to lose the team.  BTW, I should have mention that he had lived in the
Seattle areas for many years and I believe he is a US permanet resident 
already.  He intended to be simply a white-knight, and want to
be a passive investor.  As part of the ownership-transfer agreement, he 
would not have any say in how the team is run and would stay out of
the management of the club completely (what a deal!).

So Mariner is sold to a local investor consortium where a US resident
of Japanese citizenship put up most of the investment for the benefit
of local community.  It has nothing to do with Nintendo or Japanese
government.

 -cw the baseball fan-
 "What a finish for the game 7 between Atlanta and Pittsburg!
  Too bad A's didn't make it this time.  Go Blue Jays!!"
_____________________________________________________________________________
C.W.Chung       Objectivity Inc.      Object DBMS (ODBMS)   Tel: 415/688-8023
                800 El Camino Real,   Menlo Park CA 94025   Fax: 415/325-0939
                                      email: cw@objy.com    or  uunet!objy!cw
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: cfwong@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Nelson Wong)
Subject: Re: Mainland stealing Benz from HK (was Re: TW News 7/10/92)
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 17:18:54 EDT

In article <1992Oct11.133451.6468@jho.com> john@jho.com (John Ho) writes:
>dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:
>
>I seem to recall the famous Chinese theater actor "New Horse Boy" lost his
>Mercedes a few months back and he was able to "recover" it from the
>mainland within a very short time.  The Hongkong police seems to know 
>"who" to call when they really need the vehicle back. :)
>
>-- 
>John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)           - No news is bad news.

Of course they know whom to contact. It all depends on whether the
Guangdong officials are willing to return those cars or not. The
Hongkong police can hardly do anything once the car is shipped to
Mainland. Too bad not all Mercedes owners in Hongkong are as famous
as "New Horse Boy" whom the Guangdong officials would give face to.
  

Nelson Wong      Economics Department, Syracuse University
	         cfnwong@suvm.acs.syr.edu
	         cfwong@rodan.acs.syr.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,talk.politics.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Some thoughts
Keywords: protection bill
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:54:12 GMT

In article <Bw8IFv.Ao9@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> g647_7@cheetah.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (g647_7) writes:
>Try to bear with me. You will feel better :-)
>
>PS: I haven't ever found myself so cynical. Cheers! I am
>finally learning.
         ********
Not for the better!
>
>                                    A happy net observer
>				    with nothing to do today.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: jbradfor@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jeffrey Bradford)
Subject: Re: Better off under Japanese? (Was Re: Oct. 1 or Oct. 10)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 05:35:12 GMT

In article <1bj56mINNas6@agate.berkeley.edu> bl@ocf.berkeley.edu (Bo-Yi Lin) writes:
>	Hey, but you do have to give the Japanese credit for building a good
>infrastructure in Taiwan (albeit for military purposes).  When the KMT took
>over they sorta undid what the Japanese built.  Kaohsiong used to have really
>wide boulevards until old man Chiang came over; now all we have are traffic
>congestions.
>-- 
And the Germans got the trains to run on time during WWII.

Jeff

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan
From: cw@orion.uucp (C.W. Chung)
Subject: Re: SURVEY -- who do you hope wins the U.S. election?
Organization: Objectivity Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 02:45:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.164614.18170@cbfsb.cb.att.com> ykhsu@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (yung-kao.hsu) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.015821.20869@objy.com> cw@orion.uucp (C.W. Chung) writes:
>>...
>>and trouble to gather statistic like this.  Otherwise, I don't know of
>>any better way to reach to the 'silent majority' to find out what the
>>netters think about these two issues.

>	Well, people should think about why they like to find out what the
>	'silent majority' think first. IMO, the suvery questions suggest
>	nothing but entertaining value; which is fine.

Hmmm, you mean to find out what people think about the MFN issue is 'nothing
but entertaining value'?  You mean all the debates that has been going on
in the net and elsewhere are 'nothing but entertaining value'?  

>	Be aware, there are people who are 'silent majority' that don't
>	think their opinion is nobody's business hence don't participate
>	survey. And, of course, there are "noisy minority" who think along
>	the same line; for example, me.

>Yung-Kao Hsu

Email survey does has its shortcoming, much like calling 900 number to
cast your vote (well, almost, 900 number will cost you 50 cents or so).
The sampling is certainly not evenly-distributed, and often more 'unabashed'
people like myself would participate :-).  However, I think there are
a lot of people who don't feel comfortable to jump in the fray and
post in the net (you got to be kidding after seeing some of the response :-)
but are perfectly willing to let his opinion known in a more suitable
context (like email).  

It appears that some people are really against the idea of trying to 
find out what the netter think on probably the two of the most important
issues/events between USA and China.  Am I missing something here?  Are 
we afraid of something?  Enlightenment is most welcome.

-cw-
From: jin@sol1.lrsm.upenn.edu (Xuegen Jin -Luzzi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Where are the Japanese?
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:45:56 GMT
Organization: Laboratory for Research on the Structure of Matter, University of Pennsylvania

In article <Oct.7.23.44.17.1992.15263@electron.rutgers.edu> zzhang@electron.rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang) writes:
>Looking at the names of posters, I am suprised to see that very small 
>percentage of people who post in this group are Japanese. Why is this?
>Where are the Japanese? 

	They are in soc.culture.japan,please check them out, if you are interested.
From: zhao@fisher.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Action-9201. appendix
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:32:42 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis
Originator: zhao@fisher.ucdavis.edu

In Message-ID: <2AD21004.22944@news.service.uci.edu> Shannon Yeh wrote:

>...
>Regardless this bill will be passed or not, most of the CSS, including those
>CSS, will go home someday.  By then, the Chinese PEOPLE will hate the blood
>carders.  If the regular CSS do not distinct themselves from those CSS, they
>will suffer when they return to China someday: who knows you did not work on 
>the blood card in 1992?

>So, if you did not directly support the blood card petition, I strongly 
>recommend you to sign up at "blood-card@netix.com".  If you do not speak out 
>your standing, you may be misunderstood in the future.

>Obviuosly, upon your own discretion.

>shannon
>-------

This is the best advertisement about LIFE INSURANCE I have ever seen.
It's so cheap, no premium needed. But I think nobody buy it except 
his employees.

I heard the 9201 members are either Shannon's classmates or countryside
folks. Just curious, were they forced to join the 9201 sinister gang 
under Shannon's such kind threat?
From: yfeng@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu (Jeffrey Feng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: If you want to eat food you like, you must cook for yourself.
Date: 7 Oct 1992 13:39:16 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: tssmed.hsc.usc.edu

In article <1av6v5INNnfv@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu> yfeng@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu (Jeffrey Feng) writes:
In the past few days, several people have talked about how to cook food 
quickly and also delicious to eat. Here are some easy and good dishes I 
can contribute:

1. Diane Salads
   - Prepare half fresh head lettuce and cut it into thin strips
   - Place a frying pan on stove with medium heat. When it's hot
     put half an once sesami seeds into the pan and bake them until
     golden in color. Turn off the stove and put the baked seeds in
     a bowl.
   - Place the lettuce you just cut into a plate and put some Italian
     salad dressing in. Then pour some syrup in. 
   - Put the baked sesami seeds in and toss the salads until
     the dressing, syrup, and sesami seeds are mixed well.
2. Si4 Chuan1 Tofu (Ma2 Po2 Do4 Fu4)
   - Buy some fresh tofu (soft/firm depends on your taste).
   - Cut tofu into dices
   - Buy some ground pork. If no ground pork available, get some
     boneless pork and ask the clerk to ground it for you.
   - Buy chili (red pepper, make sure it's hot - La4).  Cut the
     chili into thin slices.
   - Prepare the sauce to put in in the following way:
       Chop some green onions/scallion into very small pieces
       Smash some fresh garlic(one clove)
       Chop some ginger (two or three slices) into small pieces
       Bake some Hua1 Jiao1 (optional) and ground it into powder.
       Desolve some corn starch into a bowl with water and put all 
       the above ingredients in  the bowl
       Put some granulated sugar in as well as some salt 
   To cook the dish:
    - Place a frying pan or wok on the stove with high heat.
      Pour some corn oil in (a little). Wait until not.
    - Place the chili slices in and turn it over.
    - Put the ground pork in and stir-fry it until cooked
    - Immediately put the tofu dices in. Quickly stir them.
      Add some water (not too much).
    - Cover the pan/wok. Wait until sizzling (about 1 minute).
    - Pour the bowl of ingredients and starch water in. Quickly
      stir until the starch is cooked. If the dish is too
      sticky, add more water.    

By the way, someone asked about how to keep your kitchen and stove clean
if you cook stir-fry dishes often. Here are a couple of pointers:
  1. Buy a range hood (chou1 you2 yan1 ji1). Better buy a product made
     in Taiwan or Hong Kong because it's more powerful.
  2. Buy some strong cleaning liquid called 'One Step Oven Cleaner', which
     is alkali based. Follow the instructions on the can. I'm sure it's
     very effective in cleaning stoves and ovens.
 Thank you for pointing out that I forgot to tell when to put in the ground pork.
From: Congzhong.Wang@info.unine.ch
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: "6.4"/Democratic bill,blood/Free card
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:43:24 GMT
Organization: University of Neuchatel, Switzerland

  Since many people here don't like the names "6.4 bill", "blood card",
let's call them "Democratic Bill" and "Free Card".  
  
  Agree?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zhangy@enel.ucalgary.ca (Yuejin Zhang)
Subject: Re: Tuition from Parents (was Re: Fax to Mr. Bush ...)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 04:39:57 GMT
Organization: ECE Department, U. of Calgary, Calgary, Alberta, Canada

Let's look at the question in another way:

1) One has owned tuition to Chinese people  20,000 Yun/MSc ?
2) Studing in the west, he has owned more tuition to XXX people
   (Putting the number here for goverment subsidies YYY /PhD).

Now, he has two debts to serve ... .... There seems some problem
to reason along this line. 

-- 
    Yuejin Zhang	zhangy@enel.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: usys@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CLARENCE J MAZIARZ JR)
Subject: Re: What do I think about the "Protection Bill" ?
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 00:00:59 GMT

In article <Bvy4Cs.6I8@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong) writes:

>>The conclusion is easy to draw from the above.   The sounding slogans,
>>such as human rights, democracy, and helping the development of China, 
>>are just beatiful cheating.  Among the people I have met, including non-CSS, 
>>NOBODY buys the pretext.
>
>Well, as a Gao Gan of Indiana Univ. Lian-Yi-Hui that never deals with IFCSS
>(there is a CSSA supporting IFCSS in IU), you wouldn't go against the Act
>since so many of your LYH members will be benefited from the Act, right?
>
>Then why bother to throw those crap on the network?  The Protection Act
>is just like an Immigration Bus (or IFCSS Immigration Bus :-), and those
>eligible ordinary CSS, no matter what they think about China, June 4th,
>or related matter, they will just take the bus as FREE RIDERS, so what?

>Disclaimer:  None of Bush's April 11, 1990 Executive Order or the Protection 
>             Act of 1992 would/will benefit me becasue they were/are too late,
>             and I am not a political asylee ... :-)
>----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Bo Xiong in Chicago

This guy, Bo Xiong, is undoubtfully the most shameless one among the notorious
beggar group.   You are really disguting.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:28104 soc.culture.taiwan:14498
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
From: liuyh@vis.toronto.edu (Yuanhui Liu)
Subject: Re: ROC VS. PROC
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: na 
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:54:56 GMT

In article <ldrgn5INNgpc@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin) writes:
>
>According to CCTV news Monday, the Beijing subway has been extended,
>from Fusinmem to Xidan, "1.81 KM". It was descrided as a major
>technical break-through.
>
>No wonder the traffic was terrible when I was there in August.
>Oh, a major break-through construction 1.81 KM, must be great.
>
>When Taiwan has constructed North-loop and South-loop railway
>thru many times longer tunnel under rigid rock mountain,
>no body said it was a major technical break-through. ROC should
>learn how to praise herself, see a 1.81 KM break-through? ROC
>should announce her major break-through to build subway tunnel in 
>the sand base when Taipei subway is completed. Don't ever critize
>the schedule delay.
>
look, building subway under a city is a bit different from building
railway tunnels under a rocky mountain, there are lots of that kind
of railway tunnels in China.  Remember Chinese had very little
experience in building subway, so building something new could be
a break-through.  Of course the CCP media always want to flatter
itself, it's not like the KMT is much better when come to chest-beating.  

>China had a Zhan Tian Yu, Taiwan has hundreds Zhan Tian Yu.:-)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
From: chuan@stein.u.washington.edu (Chuan Lee)
Subject: Re: Better off under Japanese? (Was Re: Oct. 1 or Oct. 10)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:44:26 GMT

In article <1bj56mINNas6@agate.berkeley.edu> bl@ocf.berkeley.edu (Bo-Yi Lin) writes:
>	Hey, but you do have to give the Japanese credit for building a good
>infrastructure in Taiwan (albeit for military purposes).  When the KMT took
>over they sorta undid what the Japanese built.  Kaohsiong used to have really
>wide boulevards until old man Chiang came over; now all we have are traffic
>congestions.

If that is where and how you draw your conclusion, then I suggest you
take a look at those "special economic zones" in China today.  The
roads are incredibly congested and chaos.  I would think one of the
reasons is that the roads were built for bicycles.  Today, the roads
are stuffed with cars.  So is that a good/progressive sign or what?
(I am not asking about the traffic condition, of course.)

Chuan Lee
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203)
Subject: Re: Improve your English
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:38:36 GMT

In article <1av2vuINNt1q@phakt.usc.edu> zyou@phakt.usc.edu (Zhongbai You) writes:
>In article <Bvr9wp.J4n@nic.umass.edu> s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203) writes:
>>In article <1asug0INNm0l@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu> yfeng@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu (Jeffrey Feng) writes:
>>>Recently I spent some time reading some of the stuff in this news group. I'm
>>>very disappointed to find that many of our highly educated compatriats cannot
>>>spell and write English well. Of course, once in a while a spelling error is
>
>>>By the way, there is a great deal of junk in the network.
>>
>>Junk written in perfect English is still junk.
>>
>>That is why people don't care much about the grammar.:-)
>
>
>  A Chinese saying goes "Bitter medicine is a good cure for your illness".
>We better watch out for our grammar, spelling, puncutation, wording and
  ('d)?
>expression.
>
>P.S. I checked Webster's twice to write the above sentence. There still could
>be some error around(not even sure about this sentence. sounds so awkward).
>
>

Ok. Let's stop this. The newsgroup is a place where people talk to
communicate some ideas (if any :-), not a place where people publish
papers. Do you really care about your grammar when you talk? Who bother
to correct your pronunciation and grammar if they understand
what you say? By saying this, I mean you should not spell words wrongly
on purpose, but you don't need to spend too much time checking your post,
either.
From: yfeng@tssmed.hsc.usc.edu (Jeffrey Feng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Cooking : ManTou
Date: 12 Oct 1992 08:46:08 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: tssmed.hsc.usc.edu

In article <BvynrE.Lnt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yy7085@meibm10.cen.uiuc.edu () writes:
>129.83.161.10 (H. Chao) writes:
>
>BTW, anyone of Chemistry major knows what the chemistry formula is for Jian3 ?
>    I know it is not simply soda.

When you cook with yeast, you don't need jian3. By the way, baking soda can
be used as jian3. The English name for jian3 is bicarbonate soda, but it's
not sold in the market. Baking soda has the same effect as jian3. Once again,
you don't need jian3 when you cook with yeast. The Man2To2 will not be sour 
because I have been cooking that way for a long time.