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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Pro Bowl Selections
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:28:15 GMT

shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni) writes:
>Gidi Avrahami (gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU) wrote:
>
>> X	Steve Tasker, Buf
>
>What on earth is an "X"?

Mea culpa.  They had one special teams player from each conference
that's neither a kicker nor a return specialist.  I marked them as X
and then forgot to change it before posting.


--Gidi
From: wine@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (edward.j.winemiller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Anyone would trade for Aikman --- NOT!  (was Re: Aikman a weakness?!?)
Date: 24 Dec 92 17:17:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <63046@mimsy.umd.edu> sjsmith@cs.umd.edu (Stephen Joseph Smith) writes:
>richard@ods.com (Richard Thompson) subjects himself to endless ridicule:
>>Ask any General Manager for any team in the league (yes, Buffalo, Miami,
>>Denver, San Francisco, Houston, too) if they would trade their starting
>>quarterback for Aikman, and they wouldn't even have to think about the
>>answer; absolutely yes.
>
>You are obviously on drugs.
>
>First of all, let me attack your phrasing in a kind and gentle way before
>everyone else jumps all over it.  Not many teams just blindly trade away
>their starting quarterback, even if he's only mediocre.  The time delay
>involved in learning a system is important.  However, I'm going to assume
>that you really didn't mean this, and what you meant to say is that Aikman
>is better than Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, John Elway, Steve Young, and Warren
>Moon.
>
>What you meant to say is that Aikman is better than Jim Kelly, Dan Marino,
>John Elway, Steve Young, and Warren Moon.
>
>What you meant to say is that Aikman is better than Jim Kelly, Dan Marino,
>John Elway, Steve Young, and Warren Moon.
>
>And no one would have to think about the answer.  Absolutely yes.
>
>I give up.
>
>- Stephen
>
>
>
	Troy Aikman could not carry the other quarterbacks you have
	mentioned JOCKSTRAPS!

	-EdJWi
From: hbishop@ttsi.lonestar.org (Huett Bishop)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Vikings Playoff chances/QB
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:45:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tandem Telecommunications Systems Inc.

In article <1992Dec28.135428.11565@hellgate.utah.edu> twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf) writes:
>>In article <13773@express>, currie@Software.Mitel.COM (Kim Currie) writes:
>>->COME ON!  Buerlein???  Tomczak???  These guys are no better (possibly
              ^^^^^^^^
Yeah, right. The QB that most coaches said they would rather have as their
backup.

The backup who took Dallas into the playoff last year with a 5 game winning
streak, starting with the thrashing of the Redskins. At RFK.

>>->worse) than what the Vikings have now.  I agree the Vikings can improve
>>->themselves by upgrading the QB position, but I don't think the rest of
>>->the NFC is `shivering' at the prospect.  They still have questionable
>>->special teams, a running back who fumbles waaay too often, and an
>>->overly conservative offensive scheme.
>>->        
>>->Kim
>>->
>>Are you a guy or a gal???  Either way, you don't know what you are talking 
>>about.
>
What the H**l is this? My wife knows more about football, college or pro than
about 75% of men. She knows individual and team stats, coaches, players and
where they came from, how they did in college, Super Bowl Stats, the play-off
tie breakers and an infinite amount of strategy, offensive and defensive.

Whenever we enter a football pool she has about 90% accuracy and can tell
you the playoff picture during each Sunday game and what the affect of each
game has on the playoff picture.

So don't think that males have a lock on the love of football.

Personally I believe you don't think at all.

>
>What does this person's sex have to do with their analysis? What, men can't
>discuss things rationally? Or women can't? I think you are out of line here.
>Leave a person's sex out of the discussion and just respond to the posting.
>
>Well, that is enough flaming, you will probably get more publicly on the net.
>I have to admit though, I think your posting merits a public apology.
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hear Hear! I agree.
>
>Tom Wolf
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From: douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit)
Subject: Atlanta crushes Dallas !
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:46:01 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

The Falcons will crush Dallas and be featured on the cover of SI !

			-Ron (come on football Gods) D.
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From: hammond@grizzly.scd.ucar.edu (Steve Hammond)
Subject: total yards from scrimmage
Organization: Scientific Computing Division, NCAR/UCAR
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:57:18 GMT


Does anyone know what the current yardage totals are for the
rushing leaders and total yards from scrimmage leaders?  A couple
of weeks ago it was pretty close between Therman, BarryF, and
Emmit.  I know that Emmit won't play until tonight but how
does it look going into tonight's game?

Thanks.

   Steve H.

From: garyr@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Gary Rosen)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 06:36:59 GMT
Subject: Re: It wasn't Pretty (49ers WON)
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

>(Gary Strand) /  7:34 am  Dec 21, 1992 /
>gr> Gary Rosen
>gs> Gary Strand

>gs> If a team favored by ~3 TDs can just barely beat a turd 4-10 team, they 
>    don't deserve to be in the NFL.

>gr> Then where do the AFC *conference champions*, who have not only lost the
>    SB the last 8 years but in six of those years got their sorry butts
>    whipped like a high school team, belong?

>  I don't know; tell me, Mr. Big Man.

>  Wait, don't tell me -- you're a "the NFC is god, and SF are his disciples,
>  and Joe is his one and only son"-type dickheads.

Touchy, touchy.  All I was saying was that *winning* a game by less than
the point spread is a shade less embarassing than being blown out in a
championship game (or any game).  Most people would agree with this
whether they worship Joe Montana, John Elway, or King Tut.

- Gary Rosen
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: a billboard in houston
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:13:39 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.football.pro, sjohnson@faulen.asd.sgi.com (Scott Johnson) writes:
 >Houston   27
 >Buffalo    3
 >Injuries   8
 >
 >a cruel way of looking at things, but that is exactly what the oilers
 >needed.

Welcome to the Club!  We, the Redskins fans, are well familiar with
this injury thing this season, having watched our beloved offensive 
(and defensive) line disintegrate during the season, thanks to injuries.

There gotta be something (mechanical devices, new rules, etc.) to protect
the frail health of our football players!

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From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Playoffs/the final answer/the Cowboys.
Date: 28 Dec 1992 19:11:53 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu

 >>       in the NFL and rushing defensive that has not been test by the top
 >>       rusher in the league.  E.Smith will have a field day, so will Aikman and
 >
 >Actually, I happen to believe that Thomas and Sanders are both better than
 >Smith (but obviously this is very subjective).  Thomas caused the niners
 >fits early in the season.  We will find out about Sanders tonight.  BTW,

You just lost ALL credibility with that one Sanders ??? Pleeease !
Thomas = maybe but Sanders ??? 

And for the last time:
Listen real close, pick up the paper and look at the sports page,
now turn to the page NFL Statistics, now look under the column
marked DEFENSE, now look at the team name right at the top...

DALLAS #1 defense on the whole NFL, deal with it !!!!

IT DOES NOT SAY NEW  RLEANS, 
we already know theres no O there.
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From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: I Can't ****ing Stand It
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:30:19 GMT


To paraphrase a line from a very funny movie, "if frustration were
people, I'd be China!"

I can't believe it.

I watch various college football games last week.  All dull (at least
when I was watching).

I watch football on Friday until my eyeballs dry up.  With the notable
exception of the Rose Bowl, all boring, one-sided games.

I watch both NFL playoff games Saturday.  Yawn.  The losers manage
7 points between them.

I watch the first half of the Oilers-Bills game and conclude that last
week was no fluke; Buffalo is too beaten up to compete.  The 28-3 
halftime score serves as evidence.

I have now invested close to 30 hours on football watching in the past
five days.  (Disgusting in its own right.)  My reward has been one-
sided, uninspirational outcomes that leave me longing for baseball
season.  Tired of it all and feeling guilty about wasting nice weather
when I've got chores to do, I turn off the set at halftime to go prune
some fruit trees.


	AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I just can't stand it.  And I'm not even an Oilers fan.

To Buffalo:  way to be.  If memory serves, you've eclipsed the Niners
record for biggest comeback.  In a playoff game, no less.

To Houston:  I feel for you.  Really.  Unlike some of these net.pups,
I've been following the Niners for long enough to remember when the
Bowboys, led by the 2nd-greatest QB ever (are you reading, Storga?),
broke hearts all over the SF Bay Area in the postseason.  The comeback
was more modest, but so was the available time.  Have a beer; it starts
over in nine months.

What a game.  Easily the best I ever missed.  By choice.  Sigh...
-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: Jills had their ass kicked
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:25:02 GMT

In article <BzyFJB.5zo@acsu.buffalo.edu> kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes:
>What the hell's the deal with that stupid subject line? Can't you ever say
>anything intelligent? (that was a rhetorical question)

>
Ah HA, sounds like a whiner here! How about the Buffalo Bills
were soundly beat by a superior Defense and a 2nd string QB?
Or how about Machine Gun Kelly was injured and the Bills fell
apart? No?! Hmmmm, how about Glenn has three INTs and Del Rio
and company thoroughly beat (not kick ASS) the Bills. Anyway
you want to interpret it, the Bill LOST! 
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
From: carrato@acsu.buffalo.edu (Michael Carrato)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills a Bust? (WAR is HELL)
Date: 29 Dec 92 19:20:03 GMT
Organization: UB

jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:

>In article <C00M24.8vz@acsu.buffalo.edu> carrato@acsu.buffalo.edu (Michael Carrato) writes:
>Say Mike, do you want the truth? Anyone is bothered by a loss.
>Would it had bothered you if the Bills were to have loss the
>game? 

Yes, probably for a few hours, maybe even a day or two. But your animosity
lingers after 14 WEEKS! I find that very strange.

It was a measly second-week interconference game. So your beloved
Niners lost. Get over it.

Sunday night the Bills lost to Houston, but that doesn't mean I'll 
be rooting for every Houston opponent until 1997.

>YES! I thought so. If it doesn't't bother you than I am loss
>for words.

Yeah, right. Promises promises.


Mike C.
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From: alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Alan Martin)
Subject: Re: Aikman a weakness?!? (was Re: It wasn't Pretty (49ers WON))
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:10:06 GMT

rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K) writes:
>In article <3209@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:

>>What weaknesses are you talking about?  The only weakness Troy has is that
>>he throws too many interceptions.  That's a bad one, to be sure.

>Great post Dan!  I think you speak for all us Cowboys fans in answering
>Troy's critics.

Well, just to throw some fat on this fire....


I like Troy, too, and I'll bet there are some Washington fans that
would like to have him right now as well.  I think he does a fine
job of reading coverages with some notable boneheaded exceptions.
Dan has mentioned his interception problems (and he's far from alone
in that department; Kelly throws some doozies as well), but I've
noticed something else this year:  he doesn't seem to have a great
arm for the long pass.  All of his "bombs" seem to have too much air
under them, allowing beaten defensive backs to get back into the play.
Am I alone in this observation?  That's the one area where Mark Rypien
excels.  His long passes have tremendous zip; dubious accuracy, but
lots of speed and a reasonably low trajectory.  You almost never
see a beaten defensive back run up and make a play on a long Rypien
pass.  Fortunately for Redskin opponents this year, he *missed* most
of his open receivers, so the backs didn't *have* to make a play.

Bye the way, this complaint isn't really much of a condemnation for
Aikman.  Critics have said the same thing about one Joe Montana.


					Al
					alan@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu
From: dtschett@scott.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter)
Subject: Player's List - Raider's
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 21:35:09 GMT



Does anyone out there have a players list for the Raiders that you
could e-mail for my ten year old ?

Thanks!
From: joel@cs.utexas.edu (Joel Daniel Just)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Cowboys '91 LB sacks (was Re: Aikman a weakness?!? (was Re: It wasn't Pretty (49ers WON)))
Date: 24 Dec 1992 02:49:39 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: langtry.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Dec24.064538.100109@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI) writes:
>...stuff deleted...
>V Smith (strong side OLB) and Norton (weakside OLB)
>combined for 0 INTs, and one sack (by Smith). Last season (w/o playoffs) they
>combined for 0 INTS, and 000 sack 
                          ^^^
>...

Ken Norton had 2 sacks last season.  Both came in the same game (the 2nd
Philadelphia game, I believe) when Norton anticipated the snap count and
knifed in between the guard and center for the sack.

This is a minor point, but I've seen this mistake made so many times in the
media that I had to correct it.

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From: djs1539@cc.utah.edu (SEGAL, DAVID JAY)
Subject: Re: Dan Reeves has been fired!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: Broncos to seek new head coach!
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 30 Dec 1992 00:30 MST  

{ 
{I do believe the decline of the Donco franchise is about to begin.  Suppose
{Elway's going to be looking for work elsewhere?

They're the Broncos dummy!!  Don't piss me off.  Watch out, maybe Elway will
follow 
Reeves too. boy won't that just be a kick in the pants!
Sheila Cobb
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: DOLPHINS WIN AFC EAST !!!
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:59:34 GMT

Curt Fennell <chf0@gte.com> writes:
>[...] the Dolphins have won the AFC Eastern Division championship
>for the first time since... oh, 1985, wasn't it?

Yep.  AFC East champions since the merger & realignment:

	1970	Baltimore	(Miami was #2)
	1971-4	Miami
	1975-7	Baltimore	(Miami #2,3,2)
	1978	NE		(Miami #2)
	1979	Miami
	1980	Buffalo		(Miami #3)
	1981-5	Miami (including 1982, the strike season)
	1986	NE		(Miami #3)
	1987	Indi		(Miami #3)
	1988-91	Buffalo		(Miami #5,3,2,3)
	1992	Miami!!

Miami wins the division for the 11th time in 23 years.  The Colts
and Bills have 5 each and the Pats have the remaining two.


--Gidi

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From: mark@totaltec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Playoffs: Philly at NewOrleans
Date: 31 Dec 92 14:36:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Total Tec Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec30.143718.7913@linus.mitre.org>, lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
> In article <1992Dec29.122002.692@totaltec.com>, mark@totaltec.com writes:
>>In article <258gwB1w165w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us>, corleone@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Daniel Marsalone) writes:
>>>      From what I've seen today (Eagles vs. Giants), the Eagles look 
>>> pretty weak. Also, the New Orleans offense seems to be non existant.
>>> I was just wonderinghow some of you people out side of the New Orleans 
>>> area perceive the Saints as a team and their offense in particular.
> 
> Their offense is tough but not top-notch.  The defense is probably the best
> in the league.  They very consistent in their effort.  Unfortunately, the
> 49ers seem to have their number, and the only way they can avoid playing
> them is if the Redskins knock them off first (highly unlikely).  
> 
>>Well I'm from the Philly area and I perceive the Saints in general to be a
>                    ^^^^^^^^^^^
> I think he meant the civilized world.  :^)  
> 
>>bunch of no-nothing,wimp assholes who couldn't play there way out of a wet
>>paper bag!!!
> 
> I can still see the burn-in on my terminal screen -- THE EAGLES WILL GO 16-0
> AND WIN THE SUPERBOWL!!!
can you see this burn-in 
THE EAGLES WILL GO 4-0 IN THE PLAYOFFS AND WIN THE SUPERBOWL!!!
THAT INCLUDES A SOUND THRASHING OF THE LOWLY AINTS!!!
> 
>>GO EAGLES!!!
GO EAGLES!!!
GO EAGLES!!!
From: charly@hal.COM (Charly Rhoades)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Brister Sacks the Steelers!
Date: 23 Dec 92 22:06:11 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: renoir.hal.com

In article <Dec23.043338.28452@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> mracette@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Racette) writes:
>
>Although I totally agree with you that Brister is a sorry excuse for an
>NFL quarterback, (in fact, Pitts. hasn't had a decent QB since Bradshaw, 
>though O'Donnell shows promise) I have to wonder about your thoughts on 
>trying another shot at the end zone with only 8 seconds remaining. Any 
>coach who wants to keep his job very long kicks the field goal.

I agree that strategically speaking you should go for the field
goal with only 8 seconds, especially given you have a rather reliable
field goal unit headed by Gary Anderson.

However, I think Brister *was* a contributing factor -- not just from
his happy feet, and inability to read defenses -- but because (if my
memory is accurate) he wasted the first time-out earlier that quarter
in a "duh I'm confused" manner.  If the Steelers had another time-out,
a quick pass to the end zone might have been an option with 8 seconds
left.

Then again, I'm not sure Bubby could have exhibited the discipline to
quickly fire off the pass so that, if incomplete, the Steelers could still
have called time out....


I used to think Bubby was adequate as a backup QB, but now I am realizing
that in this league your backup QB better be as good as your first-stringer
because it's quite likely he will be in there some time during the season.
-- 
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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Playoff games - NFC
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:34:40 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



Along the lines of what would happen if the Niners met the Packers in
the playoffs (a really BIG if), wouldn't Holmgren be able to see the
plays that the Niners may call (seeing as how he was the O coordinator)?
I'm not saying he would but it's interesting that the possibility exists...

I recall back when Wyche's Cincy team played the Niners in the Super Bowl,
the Niners had a guy on the sidelines whose job it was to solely prevent
signals from being stolen (Wyche was also with the Niner organization).
The only reason I know this is that the "signal blocker" dude was from 
around these parts.

Anyways, back to the real world...

satish nair
giants (is he gone yet?)
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: Are the Falcons really that lame?
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 00:42:14 GMT

In article <16076@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <douthit.725068556@scofflaw> douthit@convex.com (Ronnie Douthit) writes:
>>jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>|I'll be in row 3, 50 yard line! :-) I won't give you the section,
>|but I am easy to spot. Just look for the MANLY MAN in red! :-)
>
>Hey, John.  Why don't you hold up a poster with a big :-) on it so
>we can all find you.
>
>-- 
>+==========================================================================+
>| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
>| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
>+==========================================================================+

Sorry, but I ain't got no stinking time to be signing autographs
and having my picture taken with all your girlfriends. I'll be too
busy giving high fives everytime there is a Niner TD, Defensive
TD, a Watters break-away run, etc.  Yeah, that's it. Yeah right!
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
From: grej_cif@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Georg "necromantic" Greiveldinger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: PACKERS - REDSKINS WILDCARD CHANCES
Date: 21 Dec 92 07:37:46 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Dec20.232153.11722@doug.cae.wisc.edu> burger@sphinx.ece.wisc.edu (Dick Burger) writes:


>Ok, so the Eagles are definitely in, but who gets the last wildcard if:
>Packers win, Washington wins, and Eagles loose next week? 
>I've seen some postings on this 3-way tie situation, but does anybody know 
>for sure?
>thanks.   
I just read in clari.sports.football.pro....

The Redskins will win a two way tie with the Pack.
The Redskins will be odd man out in a three way tie with Pack and Philly.

Go Packers
Go Raiders
Go whoever is playing Philly...

Lat-or
-- 
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From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Coaching Change in Chicago
Date: 30 Dec 1992 13:53:38 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu

After a talk with a high level media type sportscaster here's the scoop:

Ditka is out in Chicago, he will be replaced by Vince Tobin.....

Remember you heard it here first !
tim


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