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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 08:58:18 -0600
From:         RONRON@USU.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Basic writing, again and aga

John Slatin -- Re Hofstedter.  I think so.  He also dsitinguised between
two types of knowledge: declarative and procedural.  Declarative is
that which one can discuss (grammar, for instance); the other is
knowledge with is not accessible for discussion, but operates only
when we _do_ things (writing for instance).  Grammar studies feed
declarative knowledge, _imitatio_ feeds procedural. Ron Shook
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:36:00 EST
From:         BECKY RICKLY <00RJRICKLY@BSUVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Basic writing, again and again

You wrote:

>(Last point, just for fun: the most outstanding improvement
>I've ever seen from a student in sentence fluency was a
>Korean man who wanted to be a wealthy businessman. The
>students and I could hardly make any sense at all out of his
>tangled sentences. He also had difficulty speaking
>intelligibly. I didn't know where to start. For some reason,
>I suggested that he memorize speeches, to get a better feel
>for the language. He took me more seriously than I'd ever
>anticipated. For one hour, twice a week, he came to my
>office, and recited *from memory* Ronald Reagan speeches he
>had found in _Vital Speeches_. I suffered through this,
>since I had suggested it. We talked about the speeches, and
>I answered any questions he had. By the end of the term, his
>progress in writing English sentences was the greatest I've
>ever seen in an equivalent time. You explain it to me.)

Jim, sounds like Corbett's exercises in style in _Classical Rhetoric
for the Modern Student_.  Imitatio.  Maybe that's why he (Corbett) has
been around so long--it works!


Becky Rickly
Ball State University
00RJRICKLY@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.applicat
Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 13:14:10 EDT
From:         "pienso... luego soy!!!" <s_hernandez@RUMAC.UPR.CLU.EDU>

REG S_HERNANDEZ%RUMAC.UPR.CLU.EDU
Newsgroups: bit.admin
From: ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Subject: duplications in comp.lang.asm370
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:59:28 GMT


Could someone have a look at comp.lang.asm370 please? All messages
submitted from Usenet appear to be duplicated - perhaps the BITNET
gateway is reposting to Usenet all messages, even those _from_ Usenet.
Could be because the group is not of the form 'bit.listserv...'?
This has been going on for years, but it's such a dull group I guess
nobody's ever bothered to say anything.

Ta...
Xref: sparky bit.admin:204 comp.lang.asm370:405
From: jim@american.edu (Jim McIntosh)
Newsgroups: bit.admin,comp.lang.asm370
Subject: Re: duplications in comp.lang.asm370
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:52:40 GMT
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center

In article <1992Oct2.155928.23176@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk
(Alasdair Grant) says:
>Could someone have a look at comp.lang.asm370 please? All messages
>submitted from Usenet appear to be duplicated - perhaps the BITNET
>gateway is reposting to Usenet all messages, even those _from_ Usenet.
>Could be because the group is not of the form 'bit.listserv...'?
>This has been going on for years, but it's such a dull group I guess
>nobody's ever bothered to say anything.

Boring? LTR? BXLE? MVCL? ICM? These are the stuff of life!  :-)

I took a look at this a while back. The reason comp.lang.asm has
duplicates is that Erik Fair's gateway at ucbvax does not preserve
Message-ID's. (I suspect it is subscribed to ASM370 without the FULLHDR
option and so Message-ID's are not sent to it.) Regardless of the reason,
the gateway to comp.lang.asm370 is disregarding Message-ID's and is
generating new ones for each post. This results in duplicate posts to
comp.lang.asm370 since duplicate posts have no way of being detected
without the Message-ID tag.
---
Jim McIntosh (jim@american.edu)
The American University
Washington DC 20016-8019 USA
From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Newsgroups: bit.admin
Subject: Re: Bitnet mailing list and C-News gateway
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:17:28 GMT
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

fsnlb@acad3.alaska.edu writes:
:         I'm trying to establish a gateway between bitnet mailing lists and 
: newsgroups in CNews.  Does anyone know where I could find software or
: shell scripts that would allow me to do this?  Thanks in advance for info
: you might have on this.
: 
: 
Get 'newsgate' by Rich Salz.  There are versions in the alt.sources
archives (the newer one is v1.19).  I'm sure there are newer versions
than that, if all else fails, drop Rich a note - rsalz@rodan.uu.net.o

The "news2mail" and "mail2news" programs that make up the bulk of news-
gate will do the job just fine, we're using them here.
--
Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University
doug@cc.ysu.edu	   doug@ysub.bitnet	<internet>!cc.ysu.edu!doug
I bet Wynonna Judd's outfit on the CMA awards was the lust of alt.sex.bondagers (-:
Newsgroups: bit.admin,news.groups
From: rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz)
Subject: Re: Gateway for Internet mailing list <--> USENET newsgroup
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:26:15 GMT

In <Bv7J09.D7u@news.cso.uiuc.edu> d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart) writes:
>the `newsgate' package by Rich Salz (rsalz@bbn.com).
I'm now <rsalz@osf.org> or <rsalz@uunet.uu.net>

>  There appear to
>be two versions floating around--`newsgate' and `newsgate2-beta'.
>Archie says:
>Host uxc.cso.uiuc.edu
>    Location: /pub
>           FILE -rw-r--r--      87799  Jul 13 16:20  newsgate2-beta.tar.Z
I am kind of surprised that someone would take emailed beta code and
put it up for public FTP without the author's knowledge.  Sigh.

If you want the latest newsgate package send mail to me at uunet.
	/r$
Newsgroups: bit.admin,news.groups
From: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Subject: Re: Gateway for Internet mailing list <--> USENET newsgroup
Originator: lewart@rsm1.physics.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart)
Organization: UIUC Physics Department
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:40:55 GMT

In article <Bv31zC.88w@news.cso> d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart) writes:

> How can a gateway be established between an existing Internet mailing
> list and a soon-to-be-created USENET newsgroup?  I could not find the
> answer in any of the FAQ's.  The particulars are:
>	Mailing list:	info-gnuplot@arc.nasa.gov
>	Newsgroup:	comp.graphics.gnuplot

Thanks to the following:
	Kurt Jaeger aka PI	(kurt.jaeger@rus.uni-stuttgart.de)
	John Werner		(werner@soe.berkeley.edu)
who pointed me to the `newsgate' package by Rich Salz (rsalz@bbn.com).
`newsgate' includes both `mail2news' and `news2mail'.  There appear to
be two versions floating around--`newsgate' and `newsgate2-beta'.

Archie says:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Host uxc.cso.uiuc.edu
    Location: /pub
           FILE -rw-r--r--      87799  Jul 13 16:20  newsgate2-beta.tar.Z
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Daniel Lewart
d-lewart@uiuc.edu
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From: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu (Pete Resnick)
Newsgroups: bit.admin
Subject: Gateway for ENDNOTE
Date: 27 Sep 92 19:56:22 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I am interested in setting up a gateway between the ENDNOTE Listserv
list and a bit.listserv.endnote netnews list. The ENDNOTE list is
concerned with the Macintosh EndNote and EndLink programs, which are
bibliography database programs that many Macintosh people use. Putting
it in the Usenet forum would open up the ENDNOTE list to a lot more
folks, as well as removing a good chunk of messages from my In box.

I have already written to the list owners and the list itself asking
for comments. Please post any comments you may have.

Thanks for taking a look at this.

pr
-- 
Pete Resnick             (...so what is a mojo, and why would one be rising?)
Graduate assistant - Philosophy Department, Gregory Hall, UIUC
System manager - Cognitive Science Group, Beckman Institute, UIUC
Internet: resnick@cogsci.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: bit.admin,news.groups
From: doug@cc.ysu.edu (Doug Sewell)
Subject: Re: Gateway for Internet mailing list <--> USENET newsgroup
Organization: Bush in 92 ? NOT!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:19:18 GMT

rsalz@osf.org (Rich Salz) writes:
: 
: If you want the latest newsgate package send mail to me at uunet.


I can vouch for this package (even though I'm probably running an
old version - 1.19 from the alt.sources archives).  The mail2news
and news2mail programs, if configured properly (the toughest part
of the whole package, and not that difficult) do just fine for
getting both LISTSERV and unix mailing lists into our local groups.
I haven't turned one of these loose on the net yet, and I'd have
to review what listserv headers need to be re-mangled, but it's
working just fine for me, for both moderated and unmoderated lists.

What I've done for configuration is use the option to put a fixed
path-name into the header (yfnnews-gateway!do-not-reply-to-path),
feed articles directly to relaynews, and wrote a small front-end
to put Subject: headers onto posts that didn't have them, then
set up the sys-file and sendmail aliases file. 

If anyone wants specifics on my configuration, e-mail me privately.
--
Doug Sewell, Tech Support, Computer Center, Youngstown State University
doug@cc.ysu.edu	   doug@ysub.bitnet	<internet>!cc.ysu.edu!doug
"Recession: your friend loses his job.  Depression: you lose your job.
Recovery: Bush loses his job" - Bill Davidsen
Newsgroups: bit.admin
From: rz5j@tschaikowsky.rz.go.dlr.de (Andreas Landhaeusser)
Subject: Gateway for PFERDE under discussion
To: pferde@vm.op.dlr.de
Reply-To: rz5j@tschaikowsky.rz.go.dlr.de
Organization: German Aerospace Research Establishment (DLR)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 07:21:39 GMT

I would like to have the listserv list PFERDE 
	Pferde Diskussionsliste (German Language)
gatewayed to  the USENET. The discussion groups language is GERMAN. The list covers
all aspects of riding, breeding, etc. of horses in germany. 
The proposed group name should be
	bit.listserv.pferde

Andreas Landhaeusser
Postmaster and Listserv Owner
German Aerospace Research Establishment
Bunsenstrasse 10
D-3400 Goettingen

Phone: +49-551-709-2379
From: jim@american.edu (Jim McIntosh)
Newsgroups: bit.admin
Subject: bit.** Moderator List
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:07:35 GMT
Expires: 11 Nov 1992 00:00:00 GMT
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Supersedes: <92245.125412JIM@auvm.american.edu>

Archive-name: bit/modlist
Last-modified: 22 September 1992

------------------------------------------------------------------
Group
        Moderator or Coordinator        Requests, Comments, etc.
------------------------------------------------------------------
bit.listserv.big-lan
        John Wobus              jmwobus@suvm.acs.syr.edu
bit.listserv.edtech
        EDTECH Moderator        21765EDT%MSU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
bit.listserv.gaynet
        John Perkins            gaynet-request@gallifrey.kent.edu
bit.listserv.hellas
        Spyros D. A. Antoniou   sda106@psuvm.psu.edu
bit.listserv.l-hcap
        Bill McGarry            wtm@bunker.shel.isc-br.com
bit.listserv.libres
        Diane Kovacs            DKOVACS@KentVM.Kent.edu
bit.listserv.new-list
        Marty Hoag              INFO@VM1.NoDak.EDU
bit.listserv.pacs-l
        Charles Bailey          LIBPACS%UHUPVM1@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
bit.listserv.valert-l
        Kenneth R. van Wyk      krvw@cert.sei.cmu.edu

------------------------------------------------------------------
Group                           Submissions
:-----------------------------------------------------------------
bit.listserv.big-lan	big-req@suvm.acs.syr.edu
bit.listserv.edtech	21765EDT%MSU@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
bit.listserv.gaynet	gaynet@gallifrey.kent.edu
bit.listserv.hellas	sda106@psuvm.psu.edu
bit.listserv.l-hcap	wtm@bunker.shel.isc-br.com
bit.listserv.libres	librk329@KentVMS.Kent.edu
bit.listserv.new-list	NU021172@VM1.NoDak.EDU
bit.listserv.pacs-l	LIBPACS%UHUPVM1@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU
bit.listserv.valert-l	krvw@cert.sei.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: bit.admin
From: fsnlb@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Bitnet mailing list and C-News gateway
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:27:00 GMT

        I'm trying to establish a gateway between bitnet mailing lists and 
newsgroups in CNews.  Does anyone know where I could find software or
shell scripts that would allow me to do this?  Thanks in advance for info
you might have on this.




Nathan Bills
University of Alaska Fairbanks
Email addr:  fsnlb@acad3.alaska.edu

Xref: sparky bit.admin:201 news.answers:3260
From: pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg)
Newsgroups: nj.general
Subject: Re: Net address of Rider College
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:07:54 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: The College On The Other Side Of Route One

In article <1992Oct4.161940.6876@compu.com> fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes:
=pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) writes:
=
=>So what has UNIX got to do with being on a network??? They may be on
=>BITNET, and I know that several of their computer folk have accounts on
=>pilot.njin.net.
=
=A network? Nothing. But not teaching or using UNIX in a business college that 
=avows to prepare it's students to compete in the real world does have 
=something to do with it. It is simply a matter of educational institutions 
=knowing more about what a students needs than the business world he expects to 
=earn his living in.

Whoops! You got it backwards, friend. It's the community colleges (see
below) that are supposed to be vocationally-oriented, not the universities.

=Student accounts at Rider simply do not exist as they do at most credible 
=Universities. Around 5 years ago AT&T donated extensive equipment to Rider 
=that was promised to incoming students for interaction with the world. This 
=was later not deemed necessary due to the nature of what was 'really' 
=important: to teach Lotus 1-2-3 and WordPerfect on a dos lan.

I don't know much about what goeson at Rider, but the surveys that our
Data Processing people do with employers in the county through the
industrial members of the DP advisory commission at the college keep our
DP curriculum producing exactly what local industries want: 1-2-3, WP,
Word, Novell LAN, etc.

We've offered UNIX and Shell Programming courses for a couple of years
now. This is the first semester that the Intro To UNIX course was full.

=Our educational systems do not just fall apart at the primary level.  There is
=also this gray area between a real University and all those others who only
=pretend to teach at the secondary level.

We "others" teach at the post-secondary level, Fred. ;-)

Pete
Newsgroups: nj.general
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: Net address of Rider College
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Distribution: nj
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:23:58 GMT

kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:


>     I can't find a group that seems appropriate, so I'll ask here.
> I'm trying to e-mail someone at Rider College.  I need the Internet
>address.  Rider.edu is not it.  I know it's on the net because he can
>FTP to here.  Help!

My son just graduated from there and as far as I know they do not even know 
what UNIX is over there. When I wrote to the previous president about it he 
said that his people tell him that UNIX is only for engineering and they are a 
'business' school were UNIX is not appropriate. This is for real.

Fred
-- 
W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     'mans feet have grown/so big 
26 Warren St.   home: fred@icdi10.compu.com  that he/forgets his littleness'
Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		Don Marquis 
609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr   
Xref: sparky nj.general:731 nj.wanted:774
From: hgp@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (howard.page)
Newsgroups: nj.general,nj.wanted
Subject: Wanted: Recommendation for a good Tree Service in Monmouth County..
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:56:34 GMT
Followup-To: nj.general
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T

I'm looking for a good tree service in Monmouth County. Any
ideas? Thanks.

Howard

Howard G. Page   AT&T Bell Laboratories   hgp@neural.att.com   +1 908 949-7077
Newsgroups: nj.general
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Subject: Re: Net address of Rider College
Organization: CompuData Inc.
Distribution: nj
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:19:40 GMT

pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) writes:

>So what has UNIX got to do with being on a network??? They may be on
>BITNET, and I know that several of their computer folk have accounts on
>pilot.njin.net.

A network? Nothing. But not teaching or using UNIX in a business college that 
avows to prepare it's students to compete in the real world does have 
something to do with it. It is simply a matter of educational institutions 
knowing more about what a students needs than the business world he expects to 
earn his living in.

Student accounts at Rider simply do not exist as they do at most credible 
Universities. Around 5 years ago AT&T donated extensive equipment to Rider 
that was promised to incoming students for interaction with the world. This 
was later not deemed necessary due to the nature of what was 'really' 
important: to teach Lotus 1-2-3 and WordPerfect on a dos lan.

Our educational systems do not just fall apart at the primary level.  There is
also this gray area between a real University and all those others who only
pretend to teach at the secondary level.

fred
-- 
W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     'mans feet have grown/so big 
26 Warren St.   home: fred@icdi10.compu.com  that he/forgets his littleness'
Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		Don Marquis 
609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: nj.general
Subject: Net address of Rider College
Summary: Don't know where to ask...
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:02:48 GMT
Distribution: nj
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


     I can't find a group that seems appropriate, so I'll ask here.
 I'm trying to e-mail someone at Rider College.  I need the Internet
address.  Rider.edu is not it.  I know it's on the net because he can
FTP to here.  Help!

                                                  Kevin
 
Newsgroups: nj.general
From: rake@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (rakesh.jain)
Newsgroups: nj.general,ny.general
Subject: SOUTH ASIAN AIDS ACTION Benefit dance party
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:31:02 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: nj
Organization: AT&T


     South Asian AIDS Action invites you to a gala benefit featuring
  Variety entertainment, DJ, Dance party, beer, wine and Snacks.



   Place: Gay & Lesbian Community Center.
          208, W 13th ST.
          NYC

   Date:  October 3, 1992
   TIME:  9:00pm - 1:00am

   DONATIONS: $5.00


For more information call Haresh at (212) 475-6486

__________________________________________________________________________
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From: wel2@decoy.uucp (25439-lee)
Newsgroups: nj.general,nj.forsale,ny.forsale
Subject: Rutgers-Syracuse football game ticket for sale
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:03:42 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ

Got stuck with an extra for the game at the Carrier Dome on Oct. 10

Details:
	Section 113
	Row/Box V
	Seat 110

Price:
	$18.00 (original cost) or best offer by thursday 10/08

reply to wel2@decoy.cc.bellcore.com
From: bicker@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Newsgroups: nj.general
Subject: Re: Propane tanks at apartments
Date: 27 Sep 92 20:49:14 GMT
Reply-To: Brian.C.Kohn@att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Followup-To: nj.general
Distribution: nj
Organization: The Internet


The law states that compressed gas tank storage is prohibited within 5
feet of any multi-family dwelling in New Jersey, which is probably
unconstitutional, but for now is the law.  My gas grill is 8 feet away
from the the plane of the overhang over my deck so I'm safe unless I
get some uninformed health official snooping around.

-- 
Brian Charles Kohn               using !bicker's account
Poet-Magician of "Quality"       E-MAIL: bicker@hoqax.ATT.COM
    'Hope, not fear, is the most positive advocate of action.' - S.R. Lawhead
                   Stamp Out "SO": "RP" = "Romantic Partner"
From: weinrich@cardin.rutgers.edu (Tim Weinrich)
Newsgroups: ru.nb.dcs.general,ru.misc.general,ru.nb.math.general,nj.general,ru.nb.org.csgss,ru.nb.org.usacs
Subject: Ultimate frisbee this Thursday at 4:30 on Busch campus
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:32:32 GMT
Followup-To: ru.nb.dcs.general
Distribution: nj
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


   Most of the other games in the area are fizzling out, but the Busch
game is still getting decent attendance.  If you cant make it at 4:30
its no problem for you to come later.  We usually play til at least
7:00.  (Its probably best to let me know if you will be coming late,
tho.)

------------

   We play on the field across the street from Hill Center (just down
Frelinghuysen road from the golf course) on Busch.

   This is not a "team" and we are not athletes.  We are just out to
have fun.  Anyone who has a minimal ability to handle a frisbee and
who is capable of running (not jogging) is welcome.  You dont need to
know how to play.  (It takes about 2 minutes to learn the rules.)  We
tend to play quite non-competitively, so no one will care if you arent
a terrific player.

   It has proven necessary for us to establish TWO RULES:

	Rule 1:  No cleats allowed.  (There are people who like to
play barefoot, and there are plenty of other games around where you
can wear cleats if you want.)

	Rule 2:  No "counting".  (It makes life too difficult for
beginners.)

   Please send any questions to weinrich@cs.rutgers.edu.


   Twinerik
From: RMacMichael@cup.portal.com (Ryan - MacMichael)
Newsgroups: nj.general
Subject: NJ Dance Clubs
Date: Fri,  2 Oct 92 12:54:28 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

What up y'all?
 
Was wondering -- anyone been to any good dance clubs in South Jersey?
How's Rick Mahorn's place?  Been some problems there, so I've held back
from going since I'd probably be part of one of them.  :)

... Ryan
rmacmichael@cup.portal.com
GEnie -- R.MACMICHAEL

"Increase the peace."
From: jxr@thumper.bellcore.com (Jonathan Rosenberg)
Newsgroups: nj.general
Subject: Poker, Anyone?
Date: 5 Oct 92 01:54:14 GMT
Organization: Bellcore

[Time to try my semi-annual post.]

I moved to NJ about 2.5 years ago & am still trying to find a regular
(weekly or bi-weekly) poker game.  I work in Morristown & live in
Annandale (near Clinton) & am willing to drive (the better the game, the
farther I'll drive).  I'm happy to play just about any reasonable stakes
(> $0.50) & just about any games (though I'm partial to hold 'em, Omaha
& 7-stud hi-lo).

I you have a game with some room or are interested in starting a game,
please let me know.

Jonathan Rosenberg
Bellcore
Newsgroups: nj.general