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From: schrandt@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Faith No More out of Tour!
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:40:36 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I can confirm the FNM story.  KC radio just announced the arrival of
MetallicA and Runs-in-Hoses on Septamber 17, minus FNM.  I'm shittin'
b/c I thought the boys (Mighty Met) were going to skip out on me this
year. They were absolutely kickin ass on the AJFA tour in 89 (when
I started to get into them).  FNM is alright, though I'd shell out the
$$ to see MetallicA with neither.  Actually, I'll probably leave
before Axl Pose decides he's ready, so I will see a one band show (no
opening act is scheduled yet).-- 
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From: turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: New Stuff? Best so far?
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:50:10 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <37610@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ) writes:
> In article <1992Sep1.123431.6415@iscsvax.uni.edu> turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>I don't know if it's just me, but is there ANY new shit out there that I should
>>know about that'll give me a serious hard on?
> 
> 	Yes.  Neurosis.  "Souls At Zero".  Get it.  Now.  
> 

Please give me a quick summary of Neurosis.
(genre of metal, solo or riff oriented guitars, vocals, etc.)

thanks,
tt..
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Wednesday, 26 Aug 1992 22:03:51 EDT
From: <32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: KISS: I Just Wanna, Domino
 <92231.10473332GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> <18404.2a97ef90@levels.unisa.edu.au>
 <92237.00055532GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> <18445.2a9b74fd@levels.unisa.edu.au>

In article <18445.2a9b74fd@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 9062987h@levels.unisa.edu.au
says:
>
>In article <92237.00055532GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>,
>32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU writes:
>> In article <18404.2a97ef90@levels.unisa.edu.au>,
>9062987h@levels.unisa.edu.au
>> says:
>>>
>>>In article <92231.10473332GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>,
>>>32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU writes:
>>>> In article <18314.2a911555@levels.unisa.edu.au>,
>>>9062987h@levels.unisa.edu.au
>
>>>>>
>>>>>Another thing, I saw a poster of the band, and it looked as if Paul, and
>>>Eric had goaty beards aswell as Gene.
>>>
>>>
>>>P.S. I have got a goatie, and I've had it for ten years. I'm only 21!!
>>>     Does that make me a band wagon jumper?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No...that wuold make make you full of shit because I doubt
>> very muck that you've had a goatie since you were 11.
>>
>>                         Doc
>>
>
>
>What's up Doc?
>Can't you spell. Or are you only 11?
>
No it;s just that Im not so anal that I go back and correct
spelling errors. An if you weren't so fuckin' stupid youd
figure it out.

                      Doc
From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: ACE FREHLEY???
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:51:04 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Aug27.154257.27606@linus.mitre.org>, jswartz@mbunix.mitre.org (Swartz) writes:
> In article <17inskINN4eo@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> dcarter@supra.East.Sun.COM writes:
>>Anyone heard the lastest on Ace? I haven't heard anything new since he put an album
>>out 2-3 years ago "Second Sighting", they definately needed a new singer.
>>
>>Also, what about Peter Criss, I hear he has made a number of albums since
>>leaving KISS, but I have never seen or heard any of them. ANyone else?
>>Are they still available and worth buying? What type of music?
>>
Peter Criss put out two solo albums after leaving KISS: _Out of
Control_ and an import called _Let Me Rock You_, which came out in
1982, I think it was.  Since then, nothing, though he is currently
touring with a new band called CRISS.  There's been talk of an album,
but there's been talk for ten years now....

> Well, I don't know the latest, so if anyone else does, please post.  But
> sometime after "Second Sighting", Ace parted ways with Todd (Hayworth?) and
> released, "Trouble Walkin'", which contains heavier material than the 
> somewhat more pop-oriented "Second Sighting".

Yeah, it was a much better album.

>Peter Criss joined him and
> played drums on one of the songs, "Too Young To Die" (I think Peter may have
> sung lead vocals on this as well -- it sure sounds alot like him, but he's
> not credited for it on the album, so I'm not sure).  "Trouble Walkin'" must

Peter played "percussion" on a song or two and sang background vocals
on something.  "Too Young To Die" is sung by Richie Scarlett.

> If anyone has more recent info about Ace, please post.
> 
Like Peter, Ace is currently touring clubs with a temporary band that
includes Bob Kulick, who almost had the lead spot in KISS until Ace
showed up for that now-famous audition.  No news on a new album,
except that Frehley's Comet is no more---at least, none of the
original Comet guys are still with him.  There've been rumors that has
hit the substances again, but of course, who really knows?

If you want to stay up-to-date on KISS members, both past and present,
you might want to join the KISSARMY mailing list.  To subscribe, send
the following command in the body of a mail message to
LISTSERV@WKUVX1.BITNET:

SUBSCRIBE KISSARMY "Your real name"

Hunter, KISSARMY list owner
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goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET, 502-745-5251
From: v096pz6l@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (MANDRAKE)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Sanctuary
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:38:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I have Refuge Denied and Mirrir Black and was wondering
if they have any others. Also,I saw them on tour,supporting
Mirror Black,and things were going poorly for them.Only
twenty people showed up here in Buffalo,one of their guitarists
had quit(they had the guy from Forced Entry fill in-I know he
returned to F.E. at the end of the tour)and they were having equipment 
trouble.My fear is that the band is probably no more.
Again,any info would be appreciated.
From: tenny@euclid.uucp (Nathan Tenny)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Looking for info on Fates Warning
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:57:01 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Oregon

In article <MIKSMA3.92Aug25204948@vipunen.hut.fi> miksma3@vipunen.hut.fi (Mikko S M{kel{) writes:
>   This is not what I'm looking for. Is any of the earlier stuff seriously
> more progressive than the latest (whose name I just can't seem to remember)?

Absolutely, yes, yes, 1K times yes.  BTW, don't write off the first couple
of albums on the basis of comparisons to Iron Maiden---there are similarities,
certainly, but FW's early work sounds more like the progressive epics ("Phantom
of the Opera," etc.) than like Maiden's more commercial stuff.

>   More than that, is the latest the only one with direct-to-board guitars,
> really clinical and cold, and sampled or synthesized drum sounds? I really

They have been moving in this direction for a couple of albums now.  _No
Exit_ (two albums ago) was just a touch too produced for me, and the last 2
(_Perfect Symmetry_ and _Parallels_) sound, well, as described.  The three
albums before _No Exit_ (_Night on Brocken_, _The Spectre Within_, and
_Awaken the Guardian_) are much less clinical-sounding.  The drum sounds are
never *great*, but at least the old ones are more organic.

It sounds to me like they have fallen into the trap of sounding like
Queensryche in order to be properly progressive.  (I love Queensryche, but
not enough to want a formerly great band to clone them...)

	NT
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple M. Moriji)
Subject: The Poserkiller's back!!
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:49:08 GMT

I have returned, you posers!!!!  What's all this shit about me being an idiot,
Azrael?  I guess you're just another poser.  Who gives a fuck about this loser
Suaron anyway?  You thought he was my master?  NOT!!!  He was a pathetic loser
who listened to Def Leotard and all that other poser crap.  Why do you keep
worshipping him, even though he's history?  Worship me instead!!!  I will
cleanse this newsgroup of all posers, let me assure you.  I've had some friends
who've kept track of all the shit that's been posted here in the summer, all
you people have been talking about is Guns N Fucking Posers and Metallifag.
Who gives a fuck about those motherfucking losers!!!!  BTW, I was the one who
started the riot in Montreal.  I put explosives in the speakers and was
planning to kill Hetfield so that they wouldn't put out anymore "Nothing Else
Matters" style ballads.  Why can't you all understand that the Mentors is the
coolest Metal band of the 90s?  Why can't you all understand that I am now
your master?  Suaron used to call himself the President of this newsgroup.
Well, not anymore.  I am the Dictator, and Suaron is really dead this time.
I KILLED HIM!!  So you can forget about that fucking poser from hell who used
to listen to glam faggot poser rock.  Besides, how could a true metal fan
have blonde hair?!?!  You know that only hard rock posers dye their hair
unnatural colors.  Well, now is the time to get rid of ALL you posers
out there!!

DIE POSER DIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

C++ ya,

Maple  

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From: mattw@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Matthew Watson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Pearls and Swine
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:56:30 GMT
Organization: Customised Software Solutions Centres, AOTC

Whoops, My post about Pearls and Swine to alt.rock-n-roll should really
have been here! Check it out, Good new talent is always hard to find!

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins)
Subject: Re: guns and roses or guns and jonsers
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:45:49 GMT

In article <92240.192944ASPJC@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ASPJC@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>you be the judge let me know what you think are they just a bunch of posers or
>what

	Guns being posers?  No, definitely not.  If they are, who are they 
posing?  Come on, I know Guns takes a lot of heat in this news group, but I
for one still enjoy them.  I'll probably get a lot of heat for saying this,
but it seems everybody's suddenly hates Guns because of Axl.  Come on!  Is
it not the music that counts anymore?!?  All I hear is Axl is this, Axl is
that.  Who cares?  Is he a good musician or what?  I for one think he is,
but that is only my opinion.  What Axl does in his own private life is up
to him.  When I go to their concert, I know the risk I'm taking, and if
something does happen, it might piss me off at first, but in the long run -
I knew it was a possibility!  I don't see where everyone says Axl doesn't
appreciate his fans, I mean, whenever he throws a temper-tantrum it seems
mainly directed at one person.  The rest of the fans pay for it too, sure,
but he is just trying to make the best concert he can for the fans.
	Axl is manic depressant, and he is supposed to take lithium.  I
don't think that is a big secret to anyone.  Are we going to hang the guy
for having a mental disorder?  C'mon!  Whatever happened to one for all,
all for one!

				-Casey Hopkins
				"Sad But True" - The Mighty Met.


Xref: sparky alt.rock-n-roll.metal:9753 alt.rock-n-roll.hard:399
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.hard
Subject: Re: COOL SHOW IN FLINT!!!
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 16:42:00 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

<32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

> As the header say there is one hell of a col show in
> Flint, Michigan tonite....
> 
> Faster Pussycat
> My Sister's Machine
> Blackboard Jungle
> Lazy Bones
> 
 
I thought you said this was a cool show. Sounds like a typical Michigan
$8 show to me.
 
Then again, you didn't like Metallica live, so I guess I should take
your comments with a grain of salt...
 
--Don
  waiting for Roger Waters to tour

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: azrael@sage.cc.purdue.edu (AZRAEL-The Angel of Death)
Subject: Re: DIO/Black Sabbath
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:47:11 GMT

In article <IedY9Jy00UhWA3vpI_@andrew.cmu.edu> Marcia Karen <mk3j+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>    i really like Dio's voice a lot, and come to think of it, i haven't
>heard much about his band's past. Anybody got a list of albums, and
>maybe a rating scale? i've got Holy Diver and Lock Up the Wolves, and i
>like 'em!
>Thanx
>marcia

        Hey Tapio would you like to handle this one?

        My personal ratings go like this:

        DIO (band):

        Holy Diver (9/10)
        Last in Line (9/10)
        Sacred Heart (8.5/10)
        Intermission (amusing)
        Dream Evil (7/10)
        Lock Up the Wolves (6/10)

        Sabbath Albums with DIO:
        Heaven and Hell (11/10)
        Mob Rules (10/10)
        Live Evil (9/10) "this one proves that Dio is the best
                          Sabbath singer, though you already 
                          know that after seeing this tour right!"

        Rainbow Albums:
        Blackmores Rainbow (10/10) 
        Rainbow Rising (10/10)
        Long Live R-n-R (9/10)
        "live album" (8/10)

        ELF albums:
        Carolina County Ball (1/10 for non-dio fans, 8/10 for dio fans)
        Trying to Burn the Sun (? about title) (8/10)
        ELF (9/10)

        The elf albums are very distinctive so be warned...:).

                              azrael
From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Suaron
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:48:10 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <92243.20585932GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> 32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU writes:
>I thought he was dead...I hope so because he has got to
>be the biggest waste of fuckin   time Ive ever seen.
>If Danzig would kick-off too we'd be all set.
>
>                  Doc Holiday

	If we're really lucky, the two of you fucking dolts will slaughter
each other in mindless combat and leave your accounts to Glenn.

						Fuck Off,
							Raythrax

"Never scared of the things men fear,
 Never easy, never clean,
 To be a Beast among human sheep..."  -  Danzig, "Pain in the World"
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 27 Aug 1992 19:29:44 MST
From: <ASPJC@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: guns and roses or guns and jonsers

you be the judge let me know what you think are they just a bunch of posers or
what
From: azrael@sage.cc.purdue.edu (AZRAEL-The Angel of Death)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Axe-man-ship
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:05:44 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <mwicks.6@eleceng.uct.ac.za> mwicks@eleceng.uct.ac.za (Matthew Wicks) writes:
>Down with penis extension Yngwie Yucksteen guitar.
>Up with tasteful Tony Iommi magic.
>Lets play guitar not ego.

     you get my vote for tony, at least he isn't ego driven to
     the point of not playing for the fans like "Yucksteen" is.
       
         
                              azrael
Organization: Junior, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:09:46 -0400 
From: Eric Scott Jefferson <ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Faith No More out of Tour!

Faith No More will be on their own tour now. They are in fact coming to
Pittsburgh in a couple of weeks at Metropol (tickets for that just went
on sale today) so it will be really good to see them in a club setting
instead of this huge stadium.


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I got something to say. I raped your mother today and it doesn't matter
much to me as long as she spread" -- The Misfits
"They're out ta get me. They won't catch me. 'Cause I'm innocent." --
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: mortena@ifi.uio.no (Morten Amundsen)
Subject: Maiden+Testament
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:46:47 GMT
Originator: mortena@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no



 Yesterday (August 31st) Iron Maiden and Testament struck Oslo!!!!
 Having never seen Testament live before, I was kind of blown away
 by both sound and intensity... Holy Shit!!!
 They were on for about 45-50 minutes and played something from all
 their albums.

 Iron Maiden seriouly kicked ass!!! I've never seen Maiden like this
 before... I hated their concert for 'No Prayer For The Dying', but
 this was unbelievable...
 During 'The Trooper' Chuck Billy and Eric Peterson came on stage
 fencing! :) After 'killing' Eric, Chuck started fencing with Bruce...
 You can imagine how that went... :))

 All in all a great concert!!!!!

 By the way, Testament mentioned (I think) that this was their last show
 on the Maiden tour... So who's taking over? It couldn't be WASP?
 If it was I guess I would be kind of pissed if I were to see Maiden
 the next few days!!!

 Morten.

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: drrobert@milton.u.washington.edu (Dr. Robert)
Subject: origins of slamming (to mosh or not to mosh)
Keywords: slam, mosh, ouch
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:42:11 GMT

 I have read reports of head banging at Zepplin shows in the boston area in 
68 and 69.  I suspect someone who was around then might remember how it started

Proto-slamming and moshing (as i have heard) was started (though not named)
by overcrowding clubs in california.  the crowd tended to have hell's angels
in it. the music was so called "heavy" rock (blue cheer, iron butterfly).

As i understand it didn't get quite as violent until the last decade.

Anyone now how "gobbing" got started?


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: jeremyl@owlnet.rice.edu (Jeremy Lyn Hart)
Subject: Re: POISON - coming soon
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Keywords: Richie Kotzen
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:30:30 GMT

In article <Btwo98.CL9@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v085pcqr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (CROWEHEAD - CAN YOU STING ME?) writes:
|> i just read in some magazine (circus maybe?) that POISON will consist
|> of Bret, Rikki Rockett, Bobby Dall, and Ritchie Kotzen (whoever the hell
|> he is)

For those folks who don't know, Richie Kotzen is one of a number
of producer Mike Varney's "projects."  He's a *very* good guitarist,
and from what I've heard I figure he'll fit the "Poison sound"
alright - not that I'm gonna buy the album.  If anybody wants to
hear his playing, try "Electric Joy" (*WARNING!!!* - Most Sane
People Would NOT Consider This Metal!!!  My favorite parts are the
slower songs, actually...).  He's got two other albums out,
but I haven't heard the second (I'm told he sings - badly - on it)
and hate the first...

Just some info for those who care...

Later.
-- 
Jeremy L. Hart				jeremyl@owlnet.rice.edu
"They say they built this fort 2000 years ago
 A man named James carved his name in 1983
 Congratulations, James
 Now you're a dick for eternity
 I don't know what your words for it are
 I just know what it is..."
	- "What It Is," by Too Much Joy, from _Mutiny_
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: KISS: I Just Wanna, Domino
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:54:13 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

9062987h@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:

> In article <92231.10473332GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>, 32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH
> > Do the words band wagon mean anything to you??
> > 
> > 
> 
> Kiss built the first fuckin' wheel on that wagon mate, and don't you fuckin'
> forget it!!
> 
> 
> P.S. I have got a goatie, and I've had it for ten years. I'm only 21!!
>      Does that make me a band wagon jumper?
 
Hell no! I've been a Kiss fan since my older brother bought the first
labum (he was 10 or so, I was like 4 or 5), and I only stopped
listening to them when I went through a top 40 phase. Although the
old (makeup-era) stuff kicks more ass than the new stuff, I was 
impressed with "Revenge" from the minute I first heard it.
 
As for Doc, his "Young Guns" nickname says more about wagons than
an entire AA meeting.
 
--Don
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward)
Subject: Re: Soon HE'LL be back...
Organization: The Society for Green Traffic Lights
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:48:14 GMT

jwj2@po.CWRU.Edu (Jermaster) writes:
|Actually, if he transferred to anyplace with Internet access, he'll probably
|find a way to get back on here. We'll have to see.....

but what would he do without his pfkeys? :)