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From: steve@eng.wayne.edu (Steve Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:59:12 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Wayne State University

In article <009609B7.FA2CBEE0@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU>, mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU) writes:

> >Notre Dame won the toss and deferred til the second half.  Michigan decided to 
> >kick off.  Notre Dame decided to receive in the second half. :)
> 
> 
> I assuming this was a mistake by the Michigan coaches. Why else
> would they have chosen to kick off first when Notre Dame had deferred
> their decision to the second half?
> 
> KRM

According to Coach Moeller, the captains said "We want the ball and that
[pointing] goal."  Curiously, the referee did not hear the part about wanting
the ball, and awarded the choice of goal, giving ND the option to receive,
which they did.  Draw your own conclusions...
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From: ped@crchh7.BNR.CA (Pedro Luna)
Subject: Re: BYU - America's Most Hated Team???
Reply-To: ped@crchh7.BNR.CA (Pedro Luna)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:29:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.010109.22182@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>,
zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR)) writes:
|>As I watch tonight's game (9/10) between San Diego St. and BYU, I
|>see that the BYU fans are calling their team the most hated in America.
|>Huh?? I can think of 10 or more teams that I hate more than BYU. Just
|>what is BYU thinking??? Anyone from BYU care to comment???
    
I'm not at all from BYU, but the College Football Sports Illustrated
issue has an article about this.  The article, in essence, calls BYU's
attitude as snobish; they feel like they are above everyone else, boast
loudly about their routs, yet whine about loses (as an example I
mentione BYU's whinning after A&M beat the living hell outta them).

Interesting article to say the least...

Beat the Class of '90 hell outta t.u. (Tulsa)

Pedro

Name:	  Pedro C. Luna	                      |   
E-mail:   ped@bnr.ca                          |   
Org:      Bell-Northern Research              |

"Pico de gallo, you oughta give it a try-o
 even if you're from Ohio, it'll get you by-o.
 Don't get it in your eye-o unless you want to cry-o
 so come on, don't be shy-o, eat some pico de gallo!"

    --- Trout Fishing in America
From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: lou holtz should be drawn and quartered
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:08:31 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan

In article <19509@ector.cs.purdue.edu> sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) writes:

   }} In article <JOHNDOE92Sep12.171012@asp.inmet> johndoe@asp.inmet (johndoe) writes:
   }} 
   }} never mind that notre dame
   }} probably should have won the game going away if it weren't for their
   }} turnovers.

   There were three interceptions thrown by Grbac that influenced the
   outcome a tad.

   Who was he throwing it to on that last one?  The gopher from
   Caddyshack?  I disagree with the announcers; he wasn't hit until after
   he had released (or late enough that it didn't affect the path of the
   ball much). 

Watching the replay by itself, I'd agree with you.  The hit looked to be
there just a split second after the pass went off.  On the other hand, that
interception was *so amazingly off target* that I've got to give Grbac some
credit.  This guy is a *great* college qb.  Even if you don't want to give
him credit for that (which we can argue about elsewhere) even a mediocre qb
wouldn't have missed so badly.  Remember, the pass rush was coming from
behind, so he didn't see it.  Its not like he saw the hit coming, and then
shied away from it.  

Bill
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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: ND vs. Michigan
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:23:33 GMT

Patrick W Lauson writes:

>One question:  Could somebody who taped this game PLEASE check and see who
>got the ball first in the first half?  I must be losing my mind completely,
>b/c I was sure I heard the announcer say that ND had elected to receive in
>the first half.  Then, they got the ball first in the 2nd half as well..
>Somebody please clarify this for me, before I go nuts!

I wondered about this myself.  Notre dame recieved the kickoff at the begining 
of both halves.  This was kind of odd to me because had Notre Dame won the 
toss, Lou Holtz would have elected to defer his choice until the second half.  
But then again, i wasn't overly impressed with Chris Collinsworth at all, so I 
would not find it surprising if he didn't just plain mess this up.

     - Pat
.
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From: ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason)
Subject: Re: Robert Smith/OSU's crushing of Louisville
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 14:42:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.172710.28006@cis.ohio-state.edu> atchison@frankenstein.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison) writes:
> a bunch of stuff that I agree with

A few of my thoughts about the game and the discussion that has been going
on:

First of all, give Louisville a lot of credit.  They came in and played Ohio
State head-to-head and with a break or two, could have won the game.  So
is Louisville that much improved or were the Buckeyes just real mediocre?
Hard to tell, but I'm a lot less pessimistic than a lot of Buckeye fans
who so easily jump on/off the bandwagon and are quick to boo Cooper and the
team when the game is done.

I thought it was the most interesting and varied offensive playcalling
in quite a few years for the Buckeyes.  That play-action stuff always bothered
me in obvious passing situations.  And hey, I love to see the passes to the
backs for a change - when was the last time you saw the fullback catching
passes in the Buckeye offense?  I don't think they passed as much as they'd
like to, but I think that'll change as the season goes on.

I thought Herbstreit had a good game - better than you can say for a lot of
guys.  He had one bad throw that was intercepted and made a bad judgement call
on the other interception.  Other than that, I really thought he played well,
and as was pointed out, his stats seem to back this up.

The main problem offensively was (a) not enough possessions, and (b) turnovers.
Ohio State basically only had 9 possessions.  That's not very much at all, so
you've got to do something with the ones you get.  Of those 9, the Buckeyes
had 2 punts, 4 scores, and 3 turnovers.  If you turn over the ball 1 out of
every 3 times you get it, you aren't going to score a lot of points,
especially when every one of them is in the opposing team's half of the
field.  Overall, they moved the ball well.   Except for the two interceptions,
they moved the ball at least 30 yds (approximately) every time they had the
ball. They did, however stall a few times when they got it close - don't like
to see that.

I was real dissappointed in the defense.  Maybe it'll take some experience
in playing the 4-3 before they get better.  Other than Simmons and Big Daddy,
I just didn't see much pass rush.  I'm really not sure what the problem was -
they just got flat out whipped a lot of times.  Louisville basically had 10
possessions.  Of those 10 possessions, they had 4 drives of over 60 yds, a
drive-ending fumble, and 5 punts.  A good defense has to force more turnovers,
and it cannot allow so many long drives.  Gotta stop 'em so you can give your
offense more possessions to do something with.

Anyway, the Buckeyes should count their blessings, and use this game as a
learning tool.  They can start by using it to learn not to take opponents
too lightly.  That would be a real good lesson to learn this particular week.

david
From: brown@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.carl.brown)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Michigan vs. Notre Dame
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:08:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep11.135451.12207@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day) writes:
> 
> Dan Devine has nothing to do with Lou's wins :-)  And as
> for dIvine intervention, why don't you look at almost
> any other player in any other sport - football players
> who make the sign of the cross after a touchdown, before
> kicking off, baseball players who do so before they bat,
> and any player who says "I'd just like to thank God..."

  This is getting away from the subject of college football, but
there is a comedian (Jeff -----) who has a funny bit about the
tendency to thank God for athletic victories. He wants to see
a player from the losing team say things like:
  "We were doing ok . . .  until Jesus made me fumble!"
  " God hates our team".  etc.

 (I guess its the delivery).

Go Blue.

John Carl Brown
From: noonan@icd3 (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: UMich-ND bickering (was Re: ND's DuBose Situation)
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:30:13 GMT

In article <BILLMS.92Sep8084641@z.eecs.umich.edu>,
billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:

>In article <9209081158.AA23345@dseg.ti.com> noonan@DSEG.TI.COM (Michael Noonan) writes:
>
>   In article <BILLMS.92Sep4174619@z.eecs.umich.edu>,
>   billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:
>
>   [About Irish fans' prediction of Michigan excuses after loss to ND...]
>   >Where does all of this pomposity come from?  Look, its not like you guys have
>   >either a winning streak or lead in the series going for you!  Sheesh...
>   >Imagine South Bend if they finally start to *win* some!
>		       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^????
>
>   Notre Dame lost last year.  Before that, I believe it was 6 straight
>   wins over Michigan for the Irish?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong,
>   but I know it was at least 4 straight, I was at ND for four years
>   and never saw a loss to Michigan.  I'd call that finally starting to
>   win some.
>
>Oh.  So you *do* want to live in the past.  Well then.  Anybody know what the
>all time series record is?

Gee.
I thought the word "streak" implied *you* were talking about
the past, or is it only possible to have streak of one.  I
also took the word "finally" to mean that perhaps you were 
looking back into the past history of the "series."  And I
took the word "some" to mean several or a few games which
also would require one to look into the past, at least a
short while, perhaps 7 years?

14-9 is a very nice record to have against a team, especially
if that team is Notre Dame.  However, it loses some of it's
importance (in current analysis) when you realize that 6 of
the last 7 were won by Notre Dame.  I don't know, but it
seemed to me that someone who's team had lost 6 of 7 shouldn't
be running around saying, "when will you 'finally start to
*win* some'."


>This is all kind of stupid.  Can't we just get excited about this years
>games?  Sheesh...

Agreed.  I'm very excited about this years game with Michigan.
So much so, that I'm flying in from Dallas to attend it.

Go Irish!!!  Beat Wolverines!!!


-Mike Noonan                    |"Your intellect is truly dizzying."
noonan@sun472.dseg.ti.com@tilde |        - The Dread Pirate Roberts.
From: scott@scam.berkeley.edu (Scott Silvey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Cal flattens SJSU
Date: 6 Sep 92 17:13:54
Organization: UC Berkeley Experimental Computing Facility (XCF)
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In-reply-to: dpassage@eden.CS.Berkeley.EDU's message of 5 Sep 92 19:32:48


% Cal 		46
% San Jose State	16
% Russell White	216 yards
% 
% Need I say more?

Absolutely!

You can add that Gilbertson was a perfect gentleman in pulling White 
in the third quarter.  Also, you left out that White racked up this
yardage with a consistent barrage of big runs over a mere 19 carries.
If they wanted to hype White more for the Heisman, he might have gotten
300 yards!

Also, Cal's very offensive defense held San Jose to negative 40 yards
rushing.  

Cal's new Soph QB Dave Barr had an impressive debut with 18 of 27, no 
int's and three TD's (that's a 66% completion rate).  And he was pulled 
for much of the game to let the other two QB's play.  

The total offensive yardage for Cal was 575 yards.

Also, Dawkins had three TD catches, and a total of 130 something yards.

Scott
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From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Subject: Re: Hmmm Texas to Big 10!!!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 17:31:40 GMT

In article <BuKsCD.CM9@ucunix.san.uc.edu> zureick@ucunix.san.uc.edu (John H. Zureick) writes:
>In article <92258.084432U32431@uicvm.uic.edu> <U32431@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>As a Big 10er twice (Michigan and Illinois), I vote to take Texas, driving
>>distance nonwithstanding.  Texas is a better fit than the other possibilities,
>>possibly with the exception of Pitt.  Pitt is not comparable to Big Ten schools
>>in size, save Northwestern.  But it is fairly well respected academically; Pitt
>
>What do you think about the University of Cincinnati as an entrant into the
>Big Ten?  Geographically it would make more sense than Texas.  Also, three
>big ten states (Michigan, Illinois, Indiana) have multiple teams in the 
>Big Ten but Ohio doesn't.  If being a big research institute helps, we 
>will be the only one in the state besides OSU in the near future.
>
I agree that UC would make a decent addition to the Big 10. They are a
big school (over 30,000 students), and are certainly considered a good
engineering school.  I don't think that OSU would ever want to see it happen,
though.  Ohio State already has to struggle with the rest of the nation to 
get the valued Ohio recruits (esp w/ Michigan).  If Cincy ever became big
time, there would be that many more athletes headed to that certain city
in SW Ohio (sorry, I'm a Brown's fan).  Cincy has proven to be at least 
competent in hoops as well.  IMO, Cincy would fit at least as well as
Missouri would....
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From: jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: SI Awards
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:45:58 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute -- EOL

In article <68036@hydra.gatech.EDU> mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell) writes:
>
>Take heart!  Perhaps next year Sports Illustrated will award the Rudest
>Team in College Football, the Most Unsportsmanlike Team in College Football,
>or the Just Plain Stupidest Team in College Football. ;-)

Will they also announce the awards for the coast/gulf/general-area which
has the Greatest Media Bias?  

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From: henstrom@pdx030.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Alex Henstrom)
Subject: Re: BYU questions
Reply-To: henstrom@ichips.intel.com
Organization: INTEL Portland X86 Focus Group
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:21:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.144121.58870@cc.usu.edu>, fulks@cc.usu.edu writes:
|> 
|> 
|> If I am not mistaken, BYU lost two in a row last year to UCLA and
|> Penn State.  By my calculation, that is also the last time BYU
|> PLAYED two teams in a row!
|> 
Yes, but I think someone asked the question: When was the last time BYU lost
two home games in a row?  Anybody know the answer?

-- 
=Alex=
henstrom@ichips.intel.com

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computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and weigh only 1 1/2
tons." 
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From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Pitt-WVU Tickets Available
Date: 12 Sep 92 03:59:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Ohio State University

In article <5749@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> hpb@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Harry Bloomberg)
 writes:
>
>   For the first time in years, Pitt-WVU is not yet a sellout.  For many
>reasons (low team expectations, Pittsburgh newspaper strike), there's
>lots of tickets available.

I would imagine a lot of West Virginia football fans will be heading to 
Huntington this weekend where they can smoke in the stands and watch a real 
football team.

PDunn
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From: jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund)
Subject: Re: Nebraska WOOFings!!??
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 14:21:22 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Well here is my first prediction of the year:

 Washington: 35     Nebraska: 13      (but it wont be that close)

Look for it to stay close early but Wash will be in control by
halftime.  Nebraska will have to pass effectivly if they want to
stay in the game (despite their much touted running game) but I
dont think they will be able to manage enough to keep up.

Remeber you heard it here first! ;-)

-Eric Jaderlund
jade@triton.unm.edu
From: ENVIRON@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Crow (was Re: Cal flattens SJSU)
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:42:52 GMT
 <1992Sep6.025631.24679@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> <-xpnjfh.mzimmers@netcom.com>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

>In article <1992Sep6.025631.24679@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>
>mckinzie@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Mark McKinzie) writes:
>>Since last June, I've been repeating (on occasion) predictions for
>>three early shockers: the first was SJSU over Cal by 7.  Oh well.
>>We'll see how I fare next weekend: SJSU over $tanfurd by 14, and
>>Wisconsin loses to UW by less than 20.

     Hmm.  Your record next weekend doesn't look so good from here.  SJSU
doesn't play Stanford until the 26th...

Brett
From: jpm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu (jpm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu (Jeff Mejia))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Conference realignments 
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:58:21 -0500

In article <1992Sep11.074643.1@ducvax.auburn.edu>, swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:
> In article <1992Sep10.224842.1653@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu>, jpm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu (jpm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu (Jeff Mejia)) writes:
> 
>> The reported take for the SEC championship game RIGHT NOW is a
>> cool $12 million, 
> 
> Does anyone know how this money will be split among the 12 (12? ...that
> still sounds strange) SEC teams?  Is it an even split?  Do the 2 teams that
> play get more than the 10 teams that don't?  Does the SEC main office take a
> cut off the top?
> 
> Just curious...
> -- 
> David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu 

The reports I hear say that the two teams that do make it will get more than
the remaining t10 (I seem to recall that both teams will recieve something on
the order of $500-750K, or the equivalent to the payout from a minor bowl). 
The league will get its cut (of course), but it hasn't been stated how many
shares the front office will take.  Whatever is left after the payouts to the
two participants and the league takes their cuts will be divided evenly amongst
the rest of the teams.

-- 
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From: rszczerb@bronte.helios.nd.edu (Robert Szczerba)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: swc,rice, fake grass
Date: 7 Sep 92 13:48:45 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <1992Sep7.092037.25014@tamsun.tamu.edu> cjm5628@ender.tamu.edu (The Muckster!) writes:
>>
>>
>>Every SWC team plays on that green painted concrete junk. 
>>
>>(Not to mention the Cowboys, and Oilers. At least UTEP plays
>> on natural turf.)
>>
>>Doesn't grass grow in Texas? 
>
I thought grass grew in Mexico.
From: noonan@DSEG.TI.COM (Michael Noonan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND's DuBose Situation
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:58:03 GMT

In article <BILLMS.92Sep4174619@z.eecs.umich.edu>,
billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith) writes:

[About Irish fans' prediction of Michigan excuses after loss to ND...]
>Where does all of this pomposity come from?  Look, its not like you guys have
>either a winning streak or lead in the series going for you!  Sheesh...
>Imagine South Bend if they finally start to *win* some!
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^????

Notre Dame lost last year.  Before that, I believe it was 6 straight
wins over Michigan for the Irish?  Someone correct me if I'm wrong,
but I know it was at least 4 straight, I was at ND for four years
and never saw a loss to Michigan.  I'd call that finally starting to
win some.

(Of course if ND hadn't had Mirer, Ismail, Rice, Ho, Watters, Brown...
they wouldn't have won those years. :-)

-Mike Noonan
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From: roush@stortek.com (Jeff Roush)
Subject: Re: What happened to the Huskies?
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:56:08 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.225905.19854@u.washington.edu> dokken@u.washington.edu writes:
>First, I have a question.
>Does anybody know how many Washington players made the NFL this year?
>
>Here's what I know:
>Emtman - Indy
>Hall - SF
>Rodgers - Seattle
>Fraley - Cut by Seattle
>Rongen?(is that right)- Cut by Seattle
>
>Can someone fill in the blanks?
>Orlando McKay ???
>Mario Bailey ???
>Siupeli Malamala ???
>Ed Cunningham ???
>Donald Jones ???
>Aaron Pierce ???
>Did I leave anyone out?

Lewis - Broncos

Jeff_Roush@stortek.com
my opinions are my own...
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Skip Burrell)
Subject: Re: 91 BlockBuster (Was Re: Bama in the polls)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:44:28 GMT

ward@spock.corp.mot.com  writes:
> In article <1992Sep6.041232.22656@news.unomaha.edu> skipb@cwis.unomaha.edu (Martin L. Burrell) writes:
> >
> >[ lots of stuff deleted ]
> >
> >My first (biased) prediction:
> >       Sept. 19   Nebraska 24  Washington 17!!
> >
> You've got to be kidding right?  In Washington?!?
> 

No, I just think that _this_ year, Washington is a bit overated (much like 
Nebraska has been the past few years) while Nebraska is underated.

Virtually everyone that has come to lincoln to see the Huskers during the 
preseason has gone away thinking that Nebraska is going to regain alot of its 
lost image this year. Before the writers toured the big 8, Nebraska was picked 
3rd, maybe 2nd in the league. After the tour, they were picked to *win* the 
conference. 

I'm really looking forward to the Washington game!
 
Skip
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