From: eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.clinton,alt.president.clinton,talk.abortion,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Prediction: Rush Limbaugh has hit his peak; He will
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:59:00 GMT
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Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone) writes:
.schlegel@cwis.unomaha.edu (Mark Schlegel) writes:
.>prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
.>
.>>I see myself as a bleeding-heart liberal, but I used to love listening
.>>to Rush Limbaugh's punchy right-wing rhetoric. No more! He now comes
.>>across as an issue-less cry baby. For a guy of his type to e popular,
.>>there must be an enemy. Clinton, by virtue of his middle-of-the-road
.>>approach, is not a good target. Rush, all of a sudden, sounds vacuous
.>>and stupid.
.>
.> How is Clinton "middle-of-the-road"?  That's an example of how he's fooled
.> the people and the press.  He's not a centrist or a moderate, he's a 
.> total liberal.
.>
.I would like to see your evidence on this -- direct evidence, policy-wise,
.that he is a Liberal.  I will furnish some evidence he is a centrist.
.1) He supports NAFTA; 2) He did not outright oppose the Gulf War (see below)
.3) supports a capital-gains like tax cut for business under certain
.circumstances 4) supports the death penalty...need I go on?
.Of course, some of his positions are more liberal, but then that is the
.definition of a centrist -- some of his positions are conservative, so
.liberal, some moderate.  As Gary Hart said, "I look neither left nor
.right but forward."
.
.On a related note, why do conservatives insist upon bashing Congressional
.liberals who opposed the Gulf War with the words, "Everybody in the whole
.world supported the USA except the Congressional Democrats"?  The rest
.of the world was not going to bear the *costs* of the Gulf War if things
.got nasty, but the USA was.  The Congress was therefore justified in
.being more critical than everyone else.  Bill Clinton gave a statement
.of tentative support for the war, and did not condemn it by any means.
.This is again my definition of a moderate -- took one side (conservative,
.pro-war) but tempered it with input from the other.

I don't use the "everyone in the USA except the Democrats" argument, but
I do cite the recalcitrant Democrats' calls to "let sanctions work." Of
course, regarding bearing the costs of the Gulf War, well, the whole
world would have eventually had to bear the price for allowing Iraq to
have control over Kuwait; just imagine our "recession" with gas prices
at +$1.20 than currently now.

As for Clinton's statement, "that if it were a close vote, I would vote
for the majority but agree [with the arguments of] the minority" does
not make him an exemplary political moderate in my book. It shows me
that given a challenge to his political principles, he will make every
effort to save his political career rather than stand on his political
principles. That's not a moderate, that's political selfishness.
-- 
Emil Thomas Chuck	eyc@acpub.duke.edu	Biomedical Engineering 1993
	Vacation period (off-line): December 18 to January 11.
	Take care of the network when I'm gone.
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