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From: myers@cs.ucsd.edu (Margaret Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Should I get a second kitten?
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:30:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.37823

jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper) writes:

>Lizzie (now 17 years old) was NOT happy when Rapunzel came
>to live with us. (This was at least 13 years ago.)  It took
>a while, but Lizzie and Rapunzel got really close, and when
>'Punz died last year, Lizzie wandered around looking for her
>for weeks.  I think it just depends on the cat and how you
>approach it.
>--

How long did it take Lizzie to get use to Rapunzel? About 3 
months ago I adopted Tinker, a 5 week old feisty tiger kitten. 
Oliver (5 years old) STILL hisses and growls whenever he sees 
Tinker. Its very stressful at home and I feel sorry for Oliver.
I try to give him (Oliver) special attention but he is so
upset he hisses and growls at *me* sometimes too. If I seperate
the two (hard to do in my tiny one bedroom apartment), Oliver
will calm down and be his old mellow self but when IT (Tinker)
reappears he gets upset again...

Sigh.

Margaret &
Oliver (the unhappy) &
Tinker (the feisty)
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From: dbriggs@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Daniel Briggs)
Subject: Re: Enough!
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 04:06:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.090521.12905@phillip.edu.au>
  cbradburn@phillip.edu.au writes:
>
>I was woken for the umpteenth time at 5 am this morning by two cats
>playing (in no particular oder):

>No reasonable offer refused.

This ploy is more effective when you show them the ad you've placed in the
paper on their behalf.  Of course, first you have to teach them to read....

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From: colten@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (marc.colten)
Subject: FLEAS - Tried everything, failed
Keywords: fleas
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:38:18 GMT



Well we've stayed the course and last night one of our cats was
covered in fleas, they were streaming across his face and we
could not catch them all.  Here is what we've done:

Sprayed the house on a weekly basis with "Enforcer 7 month" with
precor and pyrethins.

Combed cats nightly to remove live fleas, bathe every couple of
days with a natural citrus shampoo.

Vacuum every few days.

Launder any items used in any of the above and anything loose
the cats lie on.


As I said, all this has been for nothing.  One cat had more fleas
then we've ever seen.  According to the FAQ and all the information
we've received - the precor should have supressed immature fleas and
the mature ones should have died off and disappeared by now.

So what can anyone advise us?

My wife is afraid to use a stronger flea powder or shampoo since they
strongly warn against taking them internally.   She's concerned
that the first thing they will do after being bathed is to lick
themselves and get poisoned.

We were advised to use Ammonia or Pyrethin based cat shampoo in the
water we use to drown the fleas, but how do we keep this from getting
into the cats system as well.

Flea collars don't work - so we've given up on them.

We have a pest control contract and are getting the guy in to do
the place for fleas.  Will this work and if so how do we clean off
the cats and prevent a reoccurence?

I put a lot of faith in that Enforcer stuff but I feel the entire
gallon has been wasted.   I would appreciate any advice.  Please
e-mail so I don't miss it.


thanks,



marc colten

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From: coimay@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu ( LAURA CARRIERE)
Subject: Re: Why Do Cats Sit on Paper?
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Distribution:  world
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:24:51 GMT

In article <GIBSON.92Sep8080732@dl5000.bc.edu>, gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson) writes...
>In article <1992Sep6.153454.4128@auto-trol.com> katbea@auto-trol.com (Kathy Beatty) writes:
>>
>> coimay@sn01.sncc.lsu.edu ( LAURA CARRIERE) writes:
>> : Okay, here's my theory.  I call it the Special Theory.
>> : 
>> : Cat walks into a room and wants to sit on the floor.  My, what a lot of
>> : floor to chose from, thinks Cat.  Where shall I sit?  Hmmm, there's a
>> : spot over there that's different, it has newspaper on it.  Now, if that
>> : spot's different, it must be special and since I'm the most Special
>> : Creature on the planet, it must be meant for me.
>>
>> If anyone is taking bets, I will bet this theory is correct.
>>
> 
>There must be a corollary that explains why my cat would crawl under the
>paper to sit.

Hmm, okay, about this.  

Corollary to the Special Theory.
If the topside of the paper is Special and deserving of Cat, then the
underside must be equally Special and, hence, equally deserving of Cat.
Since Cat lacks opposable thumbs, it's necessary for Cat to crawl under
the paper.

:-)

Laura Carriere
From: david@master.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Enough!
Date: 11 Sep 92 23:04:03 GMT
Reply-To: cbradburn@phillip.edu.au
Organization: University of Chicago, Department of Anatomy

In article <1992Sep10.090521.12905@phillip.edu.au>, cbradburn@phillip.edu.au writes:
> 
> I was woken for the umpteenth time at 5 am this morning by two cats
> playing (in no particular oder):
> 	chasing each other around in circles
> 	opening the bathroom cupboards and knocking out the contents
> 	leaping on the bed an pulling the human's hair.
> 
> That's it! Enough!  I am not a human that tolerates lack of sleep.  Any
> offers for:
> 
> 1. one siamese, name of Keating (called after our beloved p.m. because they're
> both opinionated and arrogant.) approx. 3 years old.
> 
> 2. one domestic longhair, name of Seconds (too hard to explain). approx
> 2.5. years old.?
> 
> 
> No reasonable offer refused.
> 
> 
> I fel better now.
> 
> 
> Carol .........


Are you really serious about giving them up because they keep you up ?
If they are that disruptive, why not just close the door to you bedroom ?

						-David
						 University of Chicago
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From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Subject: SPLASH!!
Summary: wet kitten
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:55:14 GMT

Well, it was bound to happen sooner or later. Hobbit (12 week calico)
was standing on the toilet rim attempting to get a drink. She put her
paws into the water and started to drink, then the rest of her slipped
into the bowl... Wet kitten...Wet bathroom and human when she shook
herself dry. Poor embarassed kitten with human laughing head off.
  In the meantime, Tribble, who was standing on the rim of the tub,
stepped backward and slipped into the (dry) tub.

Normally I keep the toilet lids closed in case they fall in while I'm
not around, but this time I decided to watch what would happen.

Steve
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Little Black Spots
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:43:44 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

joanm@moe.coe.uga.edu (Joan Maxfield UCNS) writes:
> Amos and Angelica (both all black kitties) have little black spots
> inside their mouths!  I assumed they were just freckles.  It is really
> cute when they yawn and stick out their little pink tounges and show
> off the little black spots on the roofs of their mouths! :)
> 
> Joan (also not an orange tabby but sufficiently freckled!)

The black spots are melanistic patches, kinda like having black skin and
pink skin (some black cats look kinda calico if they have the misfortune
of bing shaved).  Bear and DumDum have similar black mouth patches.
Nothing to worry about, saith the vet.

Kay Klier





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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Subject: Re: What kind of cats do I have?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 22:21:13 GMT


Ask a wegie or maine breeder about what is and isn't a Maine Coon or a   
Norwegian Forest Cat (wegie).  You'll get the same answer I just gave
below.

Argue all you want.  I'm out of it....


In <uPZJqB1w165w@ailanth.UUCP> ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:

>crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:

>>
>> Therefore, to refer to your cat as a Maine Coon, without the papers to
>> back up the  actual structure and pattern of the cat, you may have a
>> tabby Persian-like cat or an Angora-like cat that does NOT fit the
>> description of a Maine Coon.
>>
>>  And the Maine Coons were just Domestic Longhair household pets until
>>  someone gave them a name for show/breeding purposes.  Hence, my description
>>  still stands.  The cat is question is a Domestic Longhair household pet,
>>  NOT a Maine Coon, because only Maine Coons have papers.
>>
>> Sorry...but it took me a long time to understand this concept, too. And
>> knowing genetics helps (believe it or not).
>>

>the rest of the post was of interest, up to this point.  the maine coon cat was
>NOT just a domestic longhair until the cat fancy deigned to name it.  coon cats
>haev been around for a long time here, much longer than snooty cat breeding
>societies.  a red squirrel does not requirte papers top be a red squirrel, or
>even to be CALLED a red squirrel, it just needs to look like a red squirrel.
>likewise a maine coon cat does nto need papers to be a maine coon cat.  papers
>are all very nice, especially for people who like to rook the public out of its
>pictures of dead presidents, but that's about it.  coon cats are the common
>type of cat in maine, and part coon cats are common as dirt.  WE, as in
>mainers, named the coon cats, not the silly cat appreciation society.  and the
>cat appreciation society has no jurasdiction to tell us what is and is not a
>coon cat.

>remember the norweigian forest cat, if you will...

>                                               -ailsa

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From: jlecher@pbs.org
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How about kitty noises?
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:42:06 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Sep3.060214.1720@walter.cray.com>, bonni@snoid.cray.com (Bonni Ensminger) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Aug27.220138.29987@gateway.novell.com>, lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson) writes:
>> First, here is my edition of Naming Cat Behaviours:
>> 
>> Beggar: when they run in front of you when they think you are going to the  
>> kitchen. Because naturally, every time you go to the kitchen you ARE going  
>> to feed them, right?
Sherlock's logic: It's food, and I'm a cat, so it MUST BE cat food, right?
 
>> _____: no noise made, but it looks like a MEOW
>>
Scarlett does this.  Either there's no noise, or she creaks like a rusty door.
Sounds like a cat we used to have who'd get laryngitus regularly.

I talk to Sherlock when he wanders around my feet, meowing aimlessly. There
doesn't seem to be any purpose to his howling, except to get my attention,
so I just carry on a conversation with him. He seems to like it.

Meow.
Really? 
Meow!
And what did you do then?
MEEOOOOW!!!
She did what? Why?
Meow.
Well, she deserved it.
etc...



Yeah, I know I'm strange. Cats do that to me.



Jane

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: Re:  Enough!
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:58:34 GMT
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In <1992Sep12.033901.25792@ecst.csuchico.edu> BTAYLOR@MACGATE.CSUCHICO.EDU writes:

> In article <1992Sep11.170403.1@master.uchicago.edu> ,
> david@master.uchicago.edu writes:
> >						 University of Chicago
> 
> I have to agree with David.  I have 7 cats and no one in the house could
> sleep at night if we didn't close our bedroom doors.  Besides, that's
> what makes cats so wonderful.  So, my vote is to shut the door, unless
> you don't have one.





Uh, guys, I THINK this was a JOKE, kinda along the lines of:

"Take my wife, *please*!"


	-Kristen
From: mike@jjruu.UUCP (Mike Riederer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Cat always MEOWS !!!!
Date: 12 Sep 92 02:22:20 GMT
Organization: Fuzzy's Place

Hi All,
I have a domestic shorthair that is about 1 year old.  She seems
to be in perfect health, but constantly MEOWS!  She runs around
like crazy, eats well, and uses her litter box.  What could be 
the problem, or is it a problem?  Any help/advice would be 
appreciated.  Please Post, because I can not receive E-mail.
Thank You
Mike
From: meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.mil (Michael E. Hoffman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Possums and cats
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:51:58 GMT
Reply-To: meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.mil (Michael E. Hoffman)

Just a few days ago Stealth (my kitty--a year-old neutered male) was running
around after dark, and I went looking for him with a flashlight.  What I
found in the middle of my backyard was not Stealth, but a possum about his
size.  Then Stealth came up behind me and quite aggressively went after the
possum.  He chased it most of the way across the yard before the possum made
a stand:  it hissed so loundly Stealth dashed back in retreat.  But Stealth 
soon recovered his nerve and went after the possum again.  I finally put an
end to the confrontation by picking up Stealth and carrying him back to the
house.

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From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: Goodbye Thomasina-the-cute
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 16:54:50 GMT

In article <24547@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick) writes:
> I tried twice to finish reading your post.  It took some doing but I made
> it all the way thru.  It's hard to read with tears running down your face.
> Have a big hug from all of us (Kepurr/Muffin/Tigger/Teal/Yogi)
> 

Ditto.  :-( 

Gayle and Boo


Gayle 'feelin' old' Kemmerling
E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
(201) 829-3950
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: Re: Question about older cat howling
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:51:23 GMT
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In <GIBSON.92Sep14114214@dl5000.bc.edu> gibson@dl5000.bc.edu writes:

> My mother asked me to ask this question for her.  She has an 18 year old
> cat who's in reasonably good shape.  The cat eats normally, races around
> the house, and seems to have a normal (for her) personality (no changes
> anytime recently).  She may have sight and vision problems, but she seems
> far from totally blind or deaf.
> 
> The problem is her howling.  She waits until my parents go to bed at night,
> then, a half hour later, she starts howling at the top of her lungs.  She
> knows where my parents are (or she should since that hasn't changed in 18
> years), but she howls in the livingroom while they're in the bedroom.  
> Someone gets up to tell the cat to be quite and she's fine for another 2 
> hours or so.  Then it repeats.  If someone takes the cat upstairs with them,
> it still happens, because she waits a bit, then goes downstairs to try again.
> This only started 6 months ago.  And it almost always happens at night.  
> Since the cat is old, my mother wonders if she's in pain and this is her 
> way of voicing that (but why only at night?).  I wonder if maybe she has 
> more trouble seeing than we think and can't see in the dark (although there 
> is a light at the top of the stairs at the end of the livingroom).  
> Everyone wonders if she's senile (although she doesn't seem senile otherwise).
>
> 
> Rene
> --


My 14 yr old, Cannan, started this a couple of years ago.  I don't know why,
but she just meows, day or night, while sitting in front of a twisty-tie
toy.  Today, for the first time in her life, she actually yowled and brought 
the toy right to me.  She never did this before in her life.  My guess
is that she's lonely and either can't find us for some reason (door shut, 
bad hearing or eyesight?) and just wants some attention.  My boyfriend
told me that once he found her sitting in a corner, apparently lost in the
middle of our apartment.  I just attribute it to old age and thank my
lucky stars that she made it to this age...

	-Kristen
From: stanton@athena.cs.uga.edu (Catherine Stanton)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Only cat?
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:04:14 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Sep10.230307.8420@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.CLN@forsythe.stanford.edu (Cynthia Ng) writes:
>Has anyone had a cat who just could not get along with other cats?
>I would like to adopt another cat but am afraid that my cat would
>never accept another.  She hisses at any cat she sees from the
>window and on a couple of occasions when she got out she beat up the
>cat next door.  When I adopted her at the shelter she even attacked
>her brother and sister.  She will also attack humans who happen to
>be near her when she sees another cat.  Any ideas or suggestions
>would be appreciated.  Right now I'm resigned to be owned by an only
>cat.  Thanks.

I have no idea about what to tell you to do unfortunately.  I just
got my cat and myself away from "Kitty the PsychoBitchCatFromHell"
at my parents house.  Kitty hissed at ME constantly cause she knew
I was Steve's mom.  Good luck.

Cat
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From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Cats & Cameras, was Re: Cat Antlers
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:08:37 GMT

In article <EefvQ5u00UzxE4fbtb@andrew.cmu.edu> Diane Gibson <dg0q+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>bsc7@po.CWRU.Edu (Bradley S. Corsello) writes:
>
>>I've found that you can't really get them to pose, but if you follow one
>>around with a camera, it'll eventually do something pictureworthy. 
>
>I've done the same to get a few good pictures -- and lots of lousy
>pictures.


This discussion reminds me of a time when I was in high school and my
mom wanted to take a picture of me with our dogs (two german shepherds
and a dachshund) for a Christmas card.  They sat me in a rocking chair
with a shepherd on either side and the dachshund in my lap, but the
pictures were pretty lousy.  The dogs just weren't into it.

Enter my father, who always had a wickedly wonderful sense of humor.
He got our cat, stood off a bit to the side, and held the cat under
her "armpits," with her lower body dangling down.  Then he swung her
gently from side to side (no pain was involved).

The result was a picture of me grinning and all three dogs looking off
toward the dangling cat, their faces a picture of rapt attention and
their cheeks kind of pouched out as if they were about to attack (and
devour) prey.  The picture was used on the Christmas card, and it
always gives me a chuckle when I come across it in my family picture
collection ... :-)




--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
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From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: Re: VET says "Dry/Wet food combo bad for cats"...?
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:10:12 GMT
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In <1992Sep4.140550.15008@maths.nott.ac.uk> nak@maths.nott.ac.uk writes:

> ** Sorry in advance if this is in the FAQ.
> 
> [I'm posting this for a friend of mine]
> 
> I feed my cats "Kit'n'Kaboodle" (dry) in the morning, and "Arthurs" cat
> food (wet) in the evening.  My vet has told me that this is a bad thing to do.
> Something about this half/half combination damaging their livers.
> 
> He seems to think that we should feed them one or the other, but not both
> equally.
> 
> The cats seem healthy.  It seems unfair to give only dry "cookies" all day to
> what are essentially meat-eating animals, but I don't have enough time in the
> morning to wait until they've eaten all of the a.m. feed, and I don't like to
> leave wet food out all day.
> 
> 
> If it really is bad for them, then I'll obviously have to change my routine,
> but has anyone else been told that a wet/dry combo can be dangerous to their
> health?
> 
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> [post only - email's broken.  damned computers!]


Well, I just went to my vet a couple of days ago, and I told him that I used
to feed Cannan all dry because my parents screwed up her teeth with all-wet
food, but now she's so old I have to feed part wet to help her keep her
weight up.  This got no comment from him.  I don't know if he wasn't listening
or if he didn't approve or what, but he at least didn't say it was bad.

By the way, all our cats have been dry/wet cats all their lives--one is now
sixteen and Cannan is now fourteen.  She had bad teeth to begin with, so my
parents thought going all-wet for her was doing her a favor; she lost several
teeth soon afterwards.  When they divorced and I inherited Cannan, I immediately
put her on all-dry and within a few months, the drooling and *stinky* breath
and mouth-tenderness all went away...

	-Kristen
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mmilicevic@spike.psc.scarolina.edu
Subject: Re: Another cat?
Reply-To: mmilicevic@spike.psc.scarolina.edu
Organization: Univ of S Carolina College of Sci and Math
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 02:33:21 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.164343.22456@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon) writes:
>In article <1992Sep13.044625.21746@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu> mmilicevic@spike.psc.scarolina.edu writes:
>>MAKE SURE ONE THING WHEN YOU BRING IN YOUR NEW CAT. DON'T PAY ANY ATTENTION
>>TO THE NEW ONE. ALL YOUR LOVE AND PETTING SHOULD GO TO THE OLD CATS, DO NOT 
>>EVEN NOTICE THE NEWCOMER. I KNOW IT IS HARD BUT THEY WILL GET ALONG THIS WAY
>>AFTER ONE WEEK. IF YOU PAY GREAT ATTENTION TO THE NEW CAT THE OTHER TWO WILL
>>BE JELOUS AND YOU'LL HAVE A PROBLEM.
>>
>>GOOD LUCK, MLADEN
>
>
>If we get another cat to keep the 12 week-old-kitten we have now company
>for when we both have jobs, we will probably get another kitten (for a variety
>of reasons).  Can you really ignore a kitten for a week like that?  We got
>our cat when she was 8 weeks old, and she really needed our time and attention.
>And still does!
>
>--Karen
>
Remember, that first week is the most important one for them to become friends
and that friendship would be later worthed much more than your attention. Cats
woul become friends - that's what is important.

MLADEN
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