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From: Tazzie@cup.portal.com (Jon S Novak)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.fan.rita-rudner
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:40:30 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

I see someone created alt.fan.rita-rudner without going through the procedures
over here, so I'll step into the void.

This group is for the purpose of disussing the creations of comedienne Rita
Rudner.  Most of her work is in stand-up-type comedy; she has also written a
book (Naked Beneath My Clothes:  Tales of a Revealing Nature) and will soon be
appearing at a Theatre Near You (tm) in *Peter's Friends*, not to mention a few
commercials.

The one-line version:
alt.fan.rita-rudner		Discussion of the comedienne.

This is by no means a bogus group, and I urge all of you admins out there to
pick it up.


Andy Lipscomb
lipscoja@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Bitnet: lipscoja@vuctrvax)
Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian.


	You have one 'Yes!!!' vote over here!
Xref: sparky alt.config:7976 alt.fan.monty-python:10072 alt.fan.letterman:2095 alt.fan.dave_barry:1110 alt.fan.pratchett:3716
From: norbeck@pleiades.cs.bucknell.edu (Naughty Nukes NY in her 1999 Nissan)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.fan.monty-python,alt.fan.letterman,alt.fan.dave_barry,alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Proposal: alt.tv.mash
Date: 17 Dec 1992 03:12:54 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pleiades.cs.bucknell.edu



Proposal:  alt.tv.mash

I proposed this group this past spring and nobody had any objection to
it.  However, due to my own ignorance, it was never created.  I am 
reposting to see if there is still interest in the group and to see if
someone out there who is interested would be willing to help me get it
off the ground.

The purpose of the group would be to discuss the tv series M*A*S*H,
which is one of the longest-running and most popular shows of all
time.  I am posting to alt.config and rec.arts.tv, as well as
alt.fan.monty-python, alt.fan.pratchett, alt.fan.dave_barry, and
alt.fan.letterman to try to catch as many interested parties as
possible, as well as to adhere to the proper procedure.  If there are
other places where I would find more people who might be interested,
please send me email at the address in my .signature.

Thanks in advance...

Nancy Norbeck



--
|.."I've heard snappier comebacks from a bowl of Rice..|....Nancy Norbeck.....|
|......Krispies."  Charles Emerson Winchester III......|.norbeck@bucknell.edu.|
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.questions
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:36:10 GMT

Don't we already have misc.misc?

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
From: arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: more from Meredith
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:19:23 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Dec11.062159.16785@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth "the Lesser") writes:
>osa@wilbur.unh.edu (Bart Simps.. er.. Oktay Ahiska) writes:
>>I HEREBY CALL FOR THE CREATION OF alt.flame.hairy-douchebag.bruce-becker!!
>Hear, hear! I second the motion!

You guys do realize that flaming hairy-douchebags on the net was one of the
reasons for creating alt.net.personalities.  So why don't you just bring it
there?

Big Al.  Wondering when we'd get a good flamewar goin...
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.fan.anne-rice
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:54:06 GMT

In article <Bz481H.F3L@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>In article <forb0004.133.724104671@student.tc.umn.edu> forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis ) writes:
[...]
>
>>Since you seem to be about the only consistent critic of the proposed group, 
>>I'd say that it looks like we have good grounds to start the group.
>
>I doubt that I am the only one.  Possibly the only public one.

Nah, I agree with you.  If Mr. Forbis posted "the anne-rice mailing list
is too crowded, we have 50 messages a day, please create
alt.fan.anne-rice", I'd addgroup it before the newgroup message
came in.

But since the mailing list died, and there's alt.gothic, alt.vampyres,
and alt.sex.bondage to cover all her various works, alt.fan.anne-rice
probably isn't needed.  If someone newgroups it I'll create it here
since the rules of group creation for alt groups have already been
followed (hint) but I'd be willing to be that it's traffic drops
to a trickle when the novelty wears off.

--
            Eric Murray                 ericm@microunity.com
In this game, the winner is also the loser, and the judge's decisions are final
From: forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis )
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.fan.anne-rice
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:11:11 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <Bz2KFG.DCn@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.220306.4543@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
>>In article <Bz2A9B.D31@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> ksdavis@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Karleen S. Davis) writes:
>>
>>>>This is a catch-22.  If he says no, you can reply there's no need for the
>>>>newsgroup.  If he says yes, you can reply "then why not just use
>>>>rec.arts.books"?
>>>
>>>I thought that was the point.
>>
>>But this catch-22 applies to _any_ proposed group.
>
>If someone can demonstrate why rec.arts.books would not be an
>appropriate group, then I'll concede that question.  It's not a
>Catch-22.

When you've set the stage so you lose either way, it _is_ a catch-22. Also, 
rec.arts.books is a general, low level discussion group. I could as easily 
knock out all the soc.culture.* groups by pointing out there was a soc.
culture, and thus no need to form another group; I doubt that they'd be 
impressed with your logic.

Basic Fact #1 is that I, and probably quite a few others, don't _want_ to 
read rec.arts.books. That alone is reason enough. Rec.arts.books is a 
relatively busy group, and sifting through posts for relevent messages can 
be a royal pain; some things invariably are missed, a frustrating 
experience. Different sites scroll the material off at different rates, and 
some readers will periodically lose information due to material they're not 
interested in reading in the first place. Irritating, to say the least. 
Finally, a general problem with usenet (less so with altnet) is that many 
users don't know where to find information; my site receives 4900+ groups, 
an enormous amount of material to comb through. An alt.fan.anne-rice group 
is clearly labeled and would attract interested readers. 

>I still doubt the utility of an alt.fan.anne-rice newsgroup, for
>reasons I've already explained.

You criticized it as not being able to support a list group; how did you get 
that bee in your bonnet? To begin with, you have no grounds for asserting 
that a list mail group is untenable, as you did in another post; no one has 
tried it. No one _wants_ to try it; they're a pain in the duff! I subscribe 
to 4 listservers; my mailbox is a tangled mess from hell even with periodic 
housekeeping. Adding another group this way is the last thing in the world 
I want to do.

Since you seem to be about the only consistent critic of the proposed group, 
I'd say that it looks like we have good grounds to start the group.

Regards,

Apologies for anything personal here,

Eric Forbis
---------

Eric Forbis      forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney)
Subject: Re: New group proposal:  alt.conservative.forum
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Distribution: world  
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:15:54 GMT


Greetings and mega-mega dittos from a Democrat who voted Republican
straight down the line this year and who is a big Rush Limbaugh fan.

In article <1gl52rINN4mf@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu> pearsodc@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU writes:
>I would like to formally propose a new group, alt.conservative.forum, 
>a moderated group to discuss conservative values and assorted political
>goings-on from a distinctly right-wing standpoint.
>
>Rationale:  Let's face it:  the net is infested with liberals.  I won't
>say this is either good or bad, but the fact is there.  Another fact:  
>some jerks with distinctly left-wing tendencies like to post to groups like
>alt.fan.rush-limbaugh and post tons of gibberish about everything
>conservatives stand for, without factual defense of their positions.
>
>A moderated group would cut out this gibberish and allow reasoned, intelligent
>discussion of the issues facing the country and the world.  Intelligent
>conservatives (and I will propose intelligent liberals as well, since, 
>contrary to popular conservative opinion, such animals do exist) will be
>encouraged to participate in our discussions.
>
>A moderator, a charter, and some internet clues (like how to send a newgroup
>message) for the man proposing this group are needed, and would be much 
>appreciated.

I add my support to this. 



===================================================================
Join #Limbaugh on IRC.. the big CONSERVATIVE hangout on Internet !!
===================================================================
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	           The B.O.S.S. does not speak for CSUS.
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: New group proposal:  alt.conservative.forum
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:52:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) writes:
> In article <36JXVB13w165w@mantis.co.uk> mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk> writes:
> >Poor dears.  Intimidated into not posting intelligent discussion by
> >the prospect that someone might take the piss.  I'd start a support
> >group if I were you.
[...]
> That doesn't mean they're _intimidated_.  I'll bet that if I were to go into
> soc.motss, for instance, and start flaming people for being gay, you would
> _not_ defend me by saying that anyone who complains is just intimidated.

Ah, but soc.motss isn't moderated, is it Ken?

As it happens, I think that Ted Kaldis is an idiot, but his existence is not
a good reason to make soc.motss moderated.  Similarly, the existence of idiot
liberals is not a good reason for a moderated newsgroup for politically
correct conservative politics.

I opposed misc.activism.progressive, too.

As to my "Intelligent conservative discussion?  Isn't that a contradiction?"
posting, that wasn't a flame.  It was a J-O-K-E.


mathew
-- 
Lung cancer and arteriosclerosis.
For people who like to smoke.
From: Simon.the.Seamster@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Simon the Seamster)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Romano-brit costuming
Date: 8 Dec 92 16:34:14 GMT


 RBS> Solids, stripes, and buffalo checks

What's a buffalo check?  (And don't some smartass say a bank draft written by a
bison!)
From: Marc.Bragg@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marc Bragg)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: FYI
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:32:00 GMT

Hello!

 MC> The National Center tells me they are receiving calls from SysOps
 MC> wanting to carry the GIFs.  Guess we proved the distribution of
 MC> missing child pictures through BBS's was valid and can have an
 MC> impact.
 MC> Later, Marv

Absolutely, am carrying the files and slowly but surely getting quite a few
d/load requests from other sysops as well. Keep up the great work.
                Marc Bragg
From: Paul@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Paul)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Device checking
Date: 4 Dec 92 21:15:28 GMT

Charles Stewart O'Connor <uunet!pucc.Princeton.EDU!JPHUGHES%UKANVM.BITNET>
 writes
! basic authorization (after a several year layoff from fighting). I did
receive
! a good deal of harassment from senior heralds in other kingdoms for going on
! the field at Estrella rather than smozing at heralds point. It left me
feeling

Just remind them that Duke Frederick of Holland fought while he was Vesper.
I don't see what the problem is.  All heraldry and nothing else makes for
boring heralds.  The members of the An Tir College of Heralds regularly meet
for "heraldry free zones" to do things like scribing, costuming, bad movies
etc.

Drogo
From: Tim.Of.Angle@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Tim Of Angle)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Device checking
Date: 5 Dec 92 14:40:21 GMT

Berwyn Aethelbryght wrote:

 B> Just curious, are there many fighting heralds?

 All heralds fight. Just read the external commentary some time...

 (I know what you meant.) Duke Master Frederick of Holland, Leveret
 Pursuivant in the West (who's had more heraldic offices than I have, a
 neat trick) comes immediately to mind. In Ansteorra we have two full
 Heralds who are fairly good - Sir Pendaran Glamorgan, Golden Staff Herald,
 and Baron Master Robin of Gilwell, Rapier Herald (who fights both light
 and heavy).

 I should estimate that there are as many fighting heralds as there are
 fighting artisans...
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:26:00 GMT

RL>Hello Marv!

RL>Friday December 04 1992 21:01, Marv Cotton wrote to All:

RL> MC>   This is our annual poll message.  Since traffic on this echo seems
to
RL> MC>   have subsided I would like to know how many participants we have.

RL>I'm here...

RL> MC>   Also any suggestions or tips?

RL>$1,000 for each message posted?  <grin>

RL>Rick


Thanks Rick.  BTW, I'll send you an address where you can send the
money. (-:

RL>--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+ via D'Bridge 1.50
RL> * Origin: Computer Assoc of La -- 14.4K HST/V32b/V42b (1:384/3)

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
From: Cecily@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Cecily)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Appelgarth
Date: 3 Dec 92 14:31:16 GMT

For what it's worth, a place called Applegarth really exists in North
Yorkshire.  The first element appears in a form of ca. 1160 as Appel,
although the second doesn't change from -gard to -garth until 1228.
See Ekwall, p. 11, under Applegarth.
Sorry for not combining this with the earlier post on the meaning of
the word garth.  I don't have my own terminal, so I had to logoff before
going out to Reference for Ekwall.
From: Cardinal@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Cardinal)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: Device Advice Request
Date: 5 Dec 92 19:14:04 GMT

}     My device is blazoned thus (I think); Pean, a goblet or bearing a cross
}bottonny azure and overflowing argent (that is to say, streams of silver
water
}flowing out of it). Is good?

  There are no tylistic problems with the device that would keep it from
passing.  Although cups are fairly common charges, the color scheme and the
cross should be able to difference it from any other devices.  It has a pretty
good chance.
  It does have to be checked against other devices to be sure, but that's most
of the herald's job.

}     To whom in Aethelmarc should I send my submission?  How much will it
}cost? Does it take very long?

  I can't answer the first question, but it will cost (last I heard) $6.00.
It generally takes about 9 months to pass a device, but can take some more
time.

                                        --Fairfax
From: Lady.Guinevere@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Lady Guinevere)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re: New to this stuff
Date: 8 Dec 92 17:21:56 GMT

Okay Garb, and thanks for the wordage there.  As you can see I am real new to
all this.  I downloaded a file about how things are said in SCA.
Okay I woulkd like to find out more about the Garb of the middle ages,
particularly in Wales vicinity and somewhere between 500 ad - 1100 ad.  I think
those where the dates when King Arthur presided the throne.  I will have to
look it up again to be sure.

Guinevere
From: Marv.Cotton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Marv Cotton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: 1STDAYS
Date: 9 Dec 92 02:20:00 GMT

BH>A message from Marv Cotton on 12-03-92 to Mike Osborn included this:

BH>MC>  Mike, could you move these messages to a different area?
BH>MC>     Thanks,
BH>MC>       Marv Cotton, Co-Moderator

BH>Marv, it appears that the troops won't be calmed 'til they get their game
BH>located.

BH>I'm signalling you, Marv, as only in the past few days was this echo
BH>activated at my request by the sysop of a nearby state university.  I've a
BH>sister in Arizona who has an adult daughter missing and I couldn't help but
BH>wonder if something might come of
BH>looking into the matter via this mode.

BH>For that, I may be in the right "church," but the wrong "pew."  I have on
my
BH>desk a copy of a document that mentions Don Rittner, "...president of the
BH>not-for-profit Computer Users for Social Responsibility
BH>(CUSR)...electronically scanning the photos of
BH>more than 300 missing children in Child Find's files...."

BH>You'll note the tag line of this msg to you refers to the HyperCard stack
BH>I've scripted for communications in this mode.  The article I cited above
BH>alludes to Don's work on a HyperCard stack "...that allows the viewer to
BH>[obtain] information desired by c
BH>licking buttons on the screen.

BH>If you're associated with Don or know of his work, can you advise me re his
BH>progress in that effort?  I've another concept I'd like to mull over with
hi
BH>and am eager to contact him.

BH>I'd appreciate any assist you might render in this regard.


BH>---
BH>RSVP v. 1.1i <an email HyperCard stack!>
BH>--- FMail 0.92
BH> * Origin: NIU Connection (815)753-1800  (1:11/70)

  Sorry Bob, I'm not familiar with Don Rittner.  We do scanning at the
  Heidi Search Center using and HP Scanjet and a Logitech 256 shades
  scanner and then creating GIF Flyers, but not a Hypercard.
    Later, Marv

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
From: Bert@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Bert)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Herald Test?
Date: 3 Dec 92 05:23:26 GMT

Someone on the Rialto mentioned a heraldry test or pursuivant's
certification exam or something.  (no, not the geek test).  What is this and
how can I find out more about it.  Is it society wide, or just a kingdom
thing?
Berwyn
From: Diane.Pilkington@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Diane Pilkington)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Courts in Steppes
Date: 4 Dec 92 07:29:06 GMT


 -=> Quoting Dathi to Tim Of Angle <=-

 TOA>  Used to be *the best* courts in the kingdom ... used to be ...

 Da> The courts themselves were good. The presentations and 
 Da> bardic college business being conducted in court got out of 
 Da> hand...
 
 I've always felt that presentations & not-of-kingdom-wide-
 importance activities (*especially* household business) should
 be conducted in private, or at least during the feast instead
 of court. But nobody listens to me.

 Da> Shadowlands can always use more intellegent people...
 
 I probably wouldn't mind living in Aggieland myself if they had
 an art department where I could teach art history. It's close
 enough to Houston that I could still benefit from the shopping
 (bookstores, art supply stores, Fine Toon Cartoon Art Gallery,
 fabric stores) without having to put up with so much traffic.

 Oh, oops. You said you could use more -intellegent- people.
 Sorry, I'll shut up now.

 Serena



___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.10
From: me,myself,@fquest.FidoNet.Org (me,myself,)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Re:  Device checking
Date: 4 Dec 92 07:42:53 GMT

Greetings Berwyn from Bjalfi!
 I am a fighter who just started heralding, so I guess now I am a fighting
herald. A couple of years ago I also saw the herad for the Principality of the
Sun fighting (pretty darn good too.)
                      Eoin
From: Beth.Appleton@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Beth Appleton)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Toys, toys, toys!
Date: 8 Dec 92 00:49:12 GMT


 MES> Ooooooooh...that's _special._ Right up there with 
 MES> the axe I saw at Pennsic
 MES> a couple years back, with a musket barrel in the 
 MES> shaft. I _like_ sneaky toys,
 MES> I do.
 Gee, and I just thought that those were built so that the user would 
 have a backup weapon, especially if the gun part refused to go off, as 
 I understand was quite common in those days......
     Gwenllian Cwmystwyth
From: Brian.Rueger@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Brian Rueger)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Poll Message
Date: 7 Dec 92 03:53:00 GMT

EF> -=> Quoting Marv Cotton to All <=-

EF> MC> This is our annual poll message.  Since traffic on this echo seems
EF> MC> to have subsided I would like to know how many participants we have.

EF>I suspect there are several such as myself who silently read the mail,
EF>posting only when there's good reason.

EF>Earl

EF>--- Blue Wave/TG v2.11
EF> * Origin: -=MetroCop=- Oklahoma City, OK (1:147/911.0)

  Thanks Earl.
   Later, Marv

 * OLX 2.2 * Children Deserve To Be Free and Feel Safe
From: uunet!CATS.UCSC.EDU!gorilla.1.@fquest.FidoNet.Org (uunet!CATS.UCSC.EDU!gorilla 1.)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: signup and question.
Date: 3 Dec 92 14:15:22 GMT

1. please include me in this mailing list. Sign up gorilla@ucscb.ucsc.edu.

2. Does the device (pardon the mangled heraldi-speak) Azure, within a
orle of rope Argent, a ship of the same charged upon the sail with a
pheon Vert work?

3. Does the name Caradoc of House Tarnished Pheon work, or for that matter,
House Tarnished Pheon? The big question is of course is Tarnished a
period word. I believe I read somewhere about it being first documented
in 1550's, but I could be wrong.

                        Ever in service to the Society,

                        Caradoc ap Gwydion

###############################################################################
Caradoc ap Gwydion
Seneschal-Heir-Apparent (2 days!)
College of St. David, Darkwood, Mists           Chris Arnold
The West                                        gorilla@cats.ucsc.edu
From: Mikea@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Mikea)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: Face Thrusts
Date: 4 Dec 92 21:07:20 GMT

PMJI here, but I believe I may be able to bring some additional
light on the topic, or at least a different viewpoint.

As a fencer (not heavy, but swash and academic tournament
styles), I have found that it is quite difficult to determine
the distance and speed of any long pointy thing when I am looking
straight down the shaft, and much less difficult if it is
at any angle at all to my line of sight.

Just thought it might be worth putting into the discussion.

Master Michael Fenwich of Fotheringhay, O.L.
(Mike Andrews)
From: Mikea@fquest.FidoNet.Org (Mikea)
Newsgroups: alt.missing-kids
Subject: hellooooo again
Date: 4 Dec 92 21:19:42 GMT

Fair greetings to Dame TSivia from Master Michael Fenwick of
Fotheringhay.

I am currently negotiating with a local University to get a mail
feed for my employer from Internet. Please reply if you get this,
and I will post my mailbox name and host as soon as we get it all settled.

Nice to see you're still alive and (I hope) well.
Was happy to meet you at TYC, missed you at tfyc.