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From: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Subject: Re: Clinton Screws Up!  Quayle follows!
Reply-To: ae642@yfn.ysu.edu (Kelley Miller)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:20:15 GMT


In a previous article, rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero) says:

>In article <1992Sep9.161142.1542@umbc3.umbc.edu> alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex) writes:
>>
>>	I thought it was gracious of Quayle to follow the mistake with
>>his own gaffe, though, don't you? Quayle critisized Clinton and suggested
>>that Clinton wanted to say "Cruise missles". Probably just an honest
>>mistake from a soon to be unemployed VP.
>>
>Not a very serious gaffe, if any, on Quayle's part.  While cruise missiles
>are not designed to hit the door or window, they *are* designed to hit
>specific buildings.  Not only are they designed to do it, they do hit  
>buildings.  Just check out any of the pre- or post Gulf War Tomohawk
>promotional videos.  Unfortunately for the critics, since doors and
>windows are often embedded in buildings, some cruise missiles have been
>observed entering the structure through these features.
>
>

Perhaps, but I've never seen a tomohawk missle drop down a chimney...
And I wasn't aware that a knoledge of weponry was a part of "foreign policy".
>
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From: slkg9733@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven L. Kellmeyer)
Subject: Re: Cruise missiles and smart bombs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:28:42 GMT

tjz20735@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Zych) writes:

>slkg9733@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steven L. Kellmeyer) writes:

>>Absolutely correct.  My old roommate worked on McDonell Douglas's SLAM
>>production line, putting together the guidance bundles for it (the 
>>Sea-Launched Air Missile, is what it stands for, I think).  They got 

>SLAM: Stand-off Land Attack Missle

Thanks.  :)
From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: At last, a conservative comic strip!
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:41:17 GMT
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In article <BuBJJM.9Es@news.cso.uiuc.edu> mwbg9715@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Wayne Blunier) writes:
>>Now, of course, I haven't heard of one paper in the evil, liberal media
>>pulling B.C. or the Wizard of Id lately, but plenty of them yank
>>Doonesbury for daring to have an opinion. Go on. Tell me about
>>the liberal media. 
>Ok you asked for it.  How come when Mr. Quail makes a mistake such as 
>mispelling a word, its all over the news for days, but when Bill 'I lied
>to the draft board' Clinton says Patriot missiles can go through cracks
>and down chimney, like we all saw on TV, the national news does not say
>it.  
>(And he thinks he should be in charge of the military!?)

Not to mention that Quayle "misspelled" potato because that's the way it
was on the card that was handed to him by the organizers of the spelling bee.
In a prepared speech, though, Clinton claims that neither Lincoln nor Reagan
were ever in the military. A five minute trip to the local library would 
have shown this statement was erroneous. 

If neither Clinton nor his staff can perform 
the most elementary fact checking, then how can we trust him to come up 
with the right information while in office? 
-- 
John Switzer               | 50 years from now, nobody will
                           | remember Candice Bergen or Murphy
74076.1250@Compuserve.com  | Brown, but every school kid will
jrs@netcom.com             | be taught about President Quayle.
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From: hulsey@dbsun.uucp (hulsey)
Subject: Re: Far Right's New "Bill of Rights"
Organization: BioMerieux-Vitek, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:01:57 GMT

In article <Bu9H1r.Lyw@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
   mwbg9715@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Mark Wayne Blunier) writes:
>>Not with a President who blames _every_ problem the country has
>>on Congressional Democrats. 
>
>>Harry Truman's Desk Sign: "The buck stops here."
>>George Bush's Desk Sign: "The buck stops at the building with the dome."
>..... but the tax payers bucks disapear in Washington.

As Maj. Winchester said in M*A*S*H:
  "OOWW!!  I've been stabbed in the heart by your rapier wit!"

In the Summer of '48, Truman said he would sign any bill that the
Republican Congress would pass.  They didn't pass a thing in the
two week summer session.  Bush doesn't dare make the same 
statement, because Congress would pass something.

Harry Truman's daughter said that she wished HST was still alive
to deal with Bush's comparisons.

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From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: A few quotes from a few years ago
Date: 10 Sep 92 02:06:36 GMT
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Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group


Doug Page keeps saying that the Supreme Court has declared that Secular 
Humanism is a religion.    Okay,  what ruling?  Could you quote from it?
Would you give the definition they used for Secular Humanism?

Could we possibly indulge in a few well defined facts and terms here?
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:27:42 -0400 
From: Erik Karl Witte <ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Rush in Pittsburgh?

I just came up to college at Carnegie Mellon in Pittsburgh, is there any
station around here that broadcasts his show?

Erik Witte (ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu)
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From: stecher@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (Jack Stecher)
Subject: Cruise missiles and smart bombs
Summary: Quayle was right
Organization: Department of Economics, Univ of Minn
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 15:12:46 GMT

In article <BuC4wA.Gqo.2@cs.cmu.edu> msm@mse.cmu.edu (Mark S McWhinney) writes:
>> [stuff deleted], but when Bill 'I lied
>>to the draft board' Clinton says Patriot missiles can go through cracks
>>and down chimney, like we all saw on TV, the national news does not say
>>it.
>>(And he thinks he should be in charge of the military!?)
>
>Good old Dan heard this and just couldn't help but rush in to say
>something stupid too. He said that they weren't Patriot missiles, they
>were cruise missiles. (The correct answer is smart bombs.)

Alas, Mr. McWhinney is a victim of the liberal media.  Governor Clinton
had remarked on Patriot missiles knocking out doors and going through
chimneys.  Quayle corrected to say cruise missiles, which WERE used to
knock out doors.

Of course, smart bombs went through the chimneys, but the reports that the
Vice President was wrong were intellectually dishonest.  Had Quayle said
that Clinton meant smart bombs, the commies in the media would deride him
for not knowing about cruise missiles.

>By the way, "mispelling" has two "s".

Try "s's" (or, if you're especially persnickity, "esses").

>Instead of listening to Rush (aka Mr. 4F) talk about the need to cut
>down the Godless forests or why we should cut off food to Africa until
>they learn their lesson, you could attend some classes.

Indeed.
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: A few quotes from a few years ago
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Date: 3 Sep 92 21:51:06 PST
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In article <1992Sep2.172533.17921@dbsun.uucp> hulsey@dbsun.uucp (hulsey) writes:
> In article <1992Sep1.123427.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>
>     cdpert01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>
> > [referred Christian post deleted]
> >
> >     Dittos to both of these postings!  Regarding freedom of religion,
> >the first amendment reads:
> >
> >           Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment
> >           of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;
> >
> >If I, as an educator, individually decide to include creationism (along
> >with evolution) as a part of the curriculum of a course I teach at a
> >public institution, how in the world can one argue that this is
> >unconstitutional?  Is congress (or state and local governments)
> >mandating that I teach this?  NO.
>
> If I as an educator, individually decide to include Satanism (along
> with creationism and evolution) as a part of the curriculum of a course I
> each at a public institution, how in the world can one argue that this
> is unconstitutional?  Is congress (or state and local governments)
> mandating that I teach this?  NO.
>

My $.02:  If you choose to teach ANY subject matter that is widely
unaccepted, the PARENTs should get involved and demand you be fired
(or whatever).  The PARENTs should mandate what gets tought, with the
govt. making MINIMAL educational requirements - like civics, PE, etc.

> Rhetoric aside, you, as an educator at a public instituion, have shed
> your individualism and become a spokesman for the State.  That happened
> the moment you accepted tax money.  As a spokesman for the State, you
> cannot "respect an establishment of religion."  Congress passes a law
> giving you tax money, you cannot use that money to preach your religious
> beliefs.
>

Spokesman for the STATE is correct.  Not for the federal government.  There
is a major difference, you know.  Where does it say in the constitution that
the State of Utah can't promote a religion?  As long as they don't prohibit
practice of other religions, there is nothing legally wrong.

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From: zst@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Rush's book is here!!
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:49:07 EDT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

Just picked up Rush's new book 'The Way Things Ought To Be' yesterday at the
local B Dalton bookstore.  I was rather surprised to see it in the store this
soon (in the book, on the page with the copyright info, there is a line that
says 'first printing October 1992' BTW.)  Its listed price is $22.00. The book
is just over 300 pages long, including the glossary of dittohead terminologies
on the end of the book. The book is every bit as enjoyable as Rush's show (even
comes with its own 'Rio Linda, California' bits.)  Considering that State
College, PA is a rather out of the way place in the middle of nowhere, this
book, a surefire bestseller as Rush points out, should be available at
basically everywhere else.  Go pick a copy!!

                                           Cheers,

Zachary Tseng
Penn State University   
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From: arras@bfws46.forwiss.uni-erlangen.de (Mike Arras)
Subject: Re: At last, a conservative comic strip!
Organization: FORWISS, Uni Erlangen, Germany
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 13:55:21 GMT


In article <1992Sep9.113554.3985@afterlife.ncsc.mil>, acadams@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Arthur C. Adams) writes:
>In article <b0rns+h.jrs@netcom.com> jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
>> ...
>>I've liked Johnny Hart for almost 15 years. Now I know why!
>
>I've hated him for years. Now I know why.
>
>The Wizard of Id, also by Hart, I think, recently did his something
>similar. The Wizard informed the King that there were "some women" to see 
>him. The King was worried. The Wiz responded that they were "anti-feminists."
>The King then said, "Oh, they're _REAL_ women."
>
>Now, of course, I haven't heard of one paper in the evil, liberal media
>pulling B.C. or the Wizard of Id lately, but plenty of them yank
>Doonesbury for daring to have an opinion. Go on. Tell me about
>the liberal media. 

	That is harmless.  Tell you about the liberal media?  How about
N-P-R!?  `Morning Edition' and `All Things Considered'.  It just does
not get any worse!!  And they are using my money (through taxes) to
shovel that "bovine fecal matter." :-(

Mike




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From: hulsey@dbsun.uucp (hulsey)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: At last, a conservative comic strip!
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:39:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: BioMerieux-Vitek, St. Louis Mo.

In article <b0rns+h.jrs@netcom.com> jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
>Well, I don't know if I would call it a *conservative* strip, but the 
>BC comic strip has had a couple of zingers recently that conservatives
>would like. Last week Wiley was sitting by a tree writing a poem about
>how when the Supreme Court Justices find themselves in Heaven trying 
>to explain their rulings against prayer and such they'd look in the 
>Constitution and find nothing there to support them. The poem was 
>much better phrased that this explanation, though.
>
>Today's strip (9/8) has patient BC asking psychiatrist Peter "how can 
>you tell if you're mind starts to go?" Peter replies "it's hard 
>to say ... there is only one *sure* sign - you will start to do jokes
>about Dan Quayle."
>
>I've liked Johnny Hart for almost 15 years. Now I know why!

I've always found it mildly amusing, but certainly not on the same level
as "Calvin and Hobbes", "The Far Side", and one of my personal favorites,
"Fox Trot."  I had been a little disturbed by the fact that while the
male characters have names, the two female characters are known as
"The Fat Broad", and "The Cute Chick."  Perhaps that shows the true
sophistication of conservative humor.  Well, the Post has it right under
"Sylvia," so I'll just avoid that section of the comics completely.

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hulsey%dbsun.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Jim Hulsey)   TBDBITL '84 ('85 Rose Bowl)
An Ohioan living in Misery (Missouri, same difference)

Watch what you say!                Won't you sign up your name
They'll be calling you a radical   So you can be their dependable
A liberal, fanatical criminal      Respectable, presentable vegetable
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From: nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle)
Subject: Re: A few quotes from a few years ago
Organization: Psych Department, Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:39:43 GMT

hulsey@dbsun.uucp (hulsey) writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.225801.18365@csc.ti.com>
>   dpage@ra.csc.ti.com (Doug Page) writes:
>Secular humanists believe in scientific inquiry.  If a school teaches
>science, does that school promote secular humanism?

    Apparently so. Scientific inquiry might lead people to question all 
kinds of things based on the silly assumption that humans can invent 
theories which are more accurate than a 2000 year old Christian dogma 
(which is, as everyone knows, infallible).

>>It is also interesting to note that federal $s are rather routinely used by
>>PBS to broadcast New Age sermons.

>Exaclty what do you call a "New Age sermon?"  Environmental programs?
>The McLaughlin Group?  Masterpiece Theatre?  This Old House?

    There have been a couple of series running recently which have struck 
me as fairly blatant in carrying the New Age message. I can't remember 
the name of the series, but there was one recently in which a guy 
travelled around the world "rediscovering" the wisdom in tribal lore 
from various ancient cultures. So they *do* show up every now and then. 
I wouldn't say that they constitute more than about 5% of PBS's air time, 
but they're around.

    Of course, against the "tripe" of PBS you also have to weigh the 
"caviar". Programs like "Masterpiece Theater", "Mystery", "Connections", 
and "The Day The Universe Changed" are extremely well done and IMHO 
counterbalance all the more questionable stuff. I'm not aware of another  
network that puts on more thought-provoking stuff than PBS (including 
Discovery and CNN).

>>So where is the establishment clause in these cases?
>  
>It seems that anything scientists say that does not fit into your belief
>window becomes "secular humanism."

    Well, not everything, but most of it. After all, if these scientists 
are remiss enough to fail to consult Holy Scripture before making their 
pronouncements then they're bound to make some mistakes, right?

--
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Psychology Department               Indiana University
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From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Clinton, draft dodger.  YUP!
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:42:10 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

In article 92Sep10130122@world.std.com, art@world.std.com (Al Thompson) writes:
>In article <nate.547@psygate.psych.indiana.edu> nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
>   art@world.std.com (Al Thompson) writes:
>   >mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako) writes:
>[...]
>   >   Actually he did work for a few years in the private sector as an attorney,
>   >   I believe a partner with his wife.  The work he did was less than extraordinary.
>   >You are able to judge the quality of his legal work?  Or are you just
>   >blowing more gas?  Get a reference to his work.
>       Regardless of the quality of Quayle's legal work, Al, would you say 
>   that Mitch has addressed Steve Tyree's original statement that Quayle has 
>   "worked hard his entire life in the private sector"? 
>I was not addressing the issue of Quayle's time in the private sector.
>The original poster stated unequivocally that Quayle's legal work was
>less than extraordinary.  Another sure statement of incompetence without
>a shred of supporting evidence.  Just state it and it'll become true.

Quayle's time in the private sector was indeed unextraordinary.  He was
an attorney in partner with his wife.  They didn't do this for very long
either.  I never stated that he was an incompetent lawyer.  I said he never
achieved anything of note during the extremely short time he was practicing.
For you to be so defensive leads me to believe that maybe there is a skeleton
in his closet regarding his short time in the private sector.  Do you know
something that the rest of us don't?
>
>I don't know if Quayle was a good lawyer or a bad one, but if you listen
>to Ted Kennedy you'll come off with the idea that he was a pretty damned
>good Senator.   Kennedy actually said that.

Senators are constantly praising each other and they are rather disingenuous
about it.  Did you watch any of the Anita/Clarence hearings?  "I yield to
the distinguished senator from xxx"  This type of praise gets passed back
and forth constantly.  I even heard Al Simpson attempt to say that he LIKES
a certain Democratic senator for which he holds utter disdain.  Do you believe
everything a senator says, particularly a Democratic senator like Ted Kennedy?



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From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Why Bush would/will burn for the delay in florida
Originator: rja@redwood26
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Distribution: usa
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:22:57 CDT


In article <mykes.0dp0@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG>, mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
> In article <1992Sep11.140452.17935@dbsun.uucp> hulsey@dbsun.uucp (hulsey) writes:
> > In article <mykes.0dl8@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
> > >
> > >The Bowlen amendment was unconstitutional.  If congress is allowed to make
> > >laws that restrict or eliminate the presidential powers of foreign policy
> > >institution, then congress becomes the only branch in government.  A GREAT
> > >example of spitting on the constitution.
> >
> > Would it have been too much trouble to get a majority of those nine
> > people known as the Supreme Court to agree with your statement before
> > they broke the law?  The law may have been unconstitutional, but it
> > is up to the Supreme Court to decide, not the executive branch.
> 
> I am in 100% agreement with you.  And I am sure that Reagan agreed with
> both of us, as well as Ollie North and the rest of the gang.  However,
> it takes time to get a supreme court decision, and during that time, the
> contras could have been overwhelmed.

#include <sarcasm.h>

Yea, they did not have time to challenge the amendment in court, yet they 
had time to make repeated trips to Iran and negotiate an arms deal and 
divert the funds to the Contras just in time to save them.

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
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From: waldbyjf@nextwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (persimmon)
Subject: Re: Bush Campaign TV Ad
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 05:24:03 GMT

Followup-To: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,rec.humor,talk.politics.misc

In article <1992Sep14.045804.20246@u.washington.edu>  
diviney@milton.u.washington.edu (Pat Diviney) writes:
> Actually, although the Constitution never spelled it out in any great  
detail,
> George Washington set the precedent (among others) that the President was
> the Nation's chief diplomat as well as the prime architect of foreign
> policy.

However, this is not usually the case. More often than not, the president  
does relatively little involving the foreign policy. Nixon was definitely  
an exception.

--
Uner kannt durch's marchenland
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From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re:  Clinton, draft dodger.  YUP!
Date: 14 Sep 92 05:39:19 GMT
Distribution: usa, na
Organization: A.I. Chem Lab, University of Arizona

In article <mykes.0dmp@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:

>  [stuff leading up to my question deleted]

>> Do you know the difference between Dan Quayle and Jane Fonda?
>>
>> Jane Fonda had the courage of her convictions to go to Viet Nam.
>
>And George Bush went to Saudi Arabia at the height of Desert Shield
>to spend Thanksgiving with the troops.


You're right.  I hadn't even considered this!    In the 70's Danno figured
out how to stay home while the government sent young men to die in his place.

In the 90's Danno stayed home and somehow got them to send the PRESIDENT OF
THE USA in his place!


And they call Clinton "slick" ????
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