HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tim@physics.orst.edu (Tim Mefford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Malcolm X
Date: 15 Dec 1992 06:11:31 GMT
Organization: Up the,
Distribution: world
Reply-To: tim@physics.orst.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: thyphy.physics.orst.edu
Keywords: Losers

In article <1gjp32INNku8@CATHY.NA.CS.YALE.EDU>, yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin) writes:
|> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
|> >In article <1gggj3INNhmi@CATHY.NA.CS.YALE.EDU> yarvin@cs.yale.edu
|> >(Norman Yarvin) writes:
|> >>Spike Lee was probably trying to make an accurate movie.  But he was by
|> >>nature too timid to do so.  The really astounding parts were all left out or
|> >>altered.  They would have detracted from the Big Picture he painted so well.
|> >
|> >I don't know, I still maintain that it was a fine movie.  You're right, in
|> >that he didn't express that same comment about trusting his wife.
|> 
|> Of course if the movie had everything that was in the book, it would have
|> been ten hours long.  But I meant that I can hardly conceive the person in
|> the film making any comment of that sort.

Ten hours long! Quiet! Spike might hear you.

I broke down this weekend and went to see Malcolm X.  I had heard
beforehand that Spike Lee simply could not have cut a single precious
minute from the 3 1/2 hour running time.  Well, I could have cut about 
an hour with no difficulty. 

He was clearly intimidated by the importance of the subject matter and
consequently afraid to take risks.  The movie, overall, I thought was,
excepting the length, good, but it certainly lacked any greatness.  I was
surprised to see Lee borrowing from his own and other's earlier works.  

It was quite enjoyable to see the forties recreated.  It was clearly fun
to film and fun to watch.  It was also gratifying to see that Spike gave
himself the line I know I've always wanted to voice on film, "The jig is up!"

I've had enough of the 8mm film clips.  Original in _Drugstore_Cowboy_,
forgivable in JFK, getting out of hand almost anywhere else.  The so-called 
controversial inclusion of the Rodney King film, big deal.

Overall, I came away with the feeling that, in the interest of a fair portrayal,
Lee pulled a lot of punches.  Fairness is boring and so is a couple hours of this 
movie.  I can't really recommend it.  

For an exercise in taut filmmaking I recommend seeing the Sinese/Malkovich version
of _Of_Mice_and_Men_.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
    Tim Mefford      | "We should often be ashamed of our very best
                     |  actions if the world only saw the motives 
tim@physics.orst.edu |  which caused them." --La Rochefoucauld
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From: Claudio.Terrorist@ed.ac.uk (Santa Claus)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Santa Claus
Date: 19 Dec 92 16:13:01 GMT
Reply-To: Claudio.Terrorist@ed.ac.uk (Santa Claus)
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Organization: The Tea Party of the Vicar


Geoff writes:

> >WHAT you mean Santa Claus is NOT real!!??
> 
> He was, but he's dead.

Nice try, Geoff, but you're WRONG.

I am Santa Claus. And I'm not dead yet.

ObPeeve. Working one day per year seemed wonderful when I signed
the contract, but it really sucks not receiving any pay cheque
(check for the furriners) for 364 days. Hence, I had to find some
alternative revenue.

AntiPeeve. At least I have found something interesting to do for
the rest of the year.

ObPeeve. My working day is approaching, and I don't feel like working.
Perhaps I'll put Ticking Parcels instead of gifts.

Santa
From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Theft (was MalcolmX)
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:55:06 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Dec16.003228.432@twg.com> nolan@twg.com writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec15.222408.22031@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich) writes:
>[stuff]
>|>And by the way, which one of you miscreants stole my .sig?
>
>This just in: the signature police have been confiscating .sigs at an
>astonishing rate lately on the pretext that they're an unjustifiable demand on
>net.bandwidth. See, mine's gone too! Happened overnight.

Good!  It too fucking long most of the time anyway.

ObPeeve:  The work goes on in the Kepler abode.  Yesterday I got to
try and fit a 60" long shower pan (that's 1.524m for the metrically
inclined) weighing something like 250# (113.3980925Kg for the metric)
into a space that was about 59.5" wide.  As you can guess, it was a
tight fit and only accomplished in conjunction with a lot of cursing
and cut&fit.  Anyway, it's in and it's staying.  

Today we get to do drywall, a prospect I look forward to with
breathless anticipation.  Or something like that.  At least it's the
last major dust cloud in the master bedroom (during construction,
anyway).

!Peeve: I removed the traditional mix valve and replaced it with a
anti-scald valve.  This is a clever invention (and likely only 25
years old) that permits one to *enjoy* the shower without the fear
that some uncultured asshole will flush a toilet or start a washer
somewhere and either scald the flesh from their skeleton or chill them
into an early case of pnemonia.  I only had to sister one stud and
move a single brace to do it.  I'm ready for the in-laws now...

-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home   bbxrbk!russ@bbx.basis.com
Will hack unix for food
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Work peeves
Date: 18 Dec 92 23:33:49 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <lj4b4aINN1qf@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>
>
|I've no sooner turned back to my workstation and focused my eyes on the 
|screen when *somebody else* comes in.  Meanwhile, my officemate continues
|her marathon durability testing of her telephone, which makes it even
|harder to concentrate, and people keep coming in to talk to her as well.

Do what I do.  Get a small radio and tune it to the local country western
station.  Chances are that every twenty minutes they'll play "Achey
Breaky Heart".  Wear ear plugs.  That'll keep everyone else out your
office.  In between the times that the song isn't on the radio, hum it.

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.angst
Subject: Re: Fuck Christmas
Date: 15 Dec 1992 07:46:37 GMT
Organization: Sun, Moon, and Stars
NNTP-Posting-Host: abingdon

(Harold Platypus) writes:
>While you're at it, why don't you blast the small bits of dead nerve
>tissue from between your ears with a .45? I'd sleep better knowing
>the likes of you could never procreate...

Take it to alt.holiday.suicide.  There's this idea, that's obviously
totally foreign to you, called "birth control."  It means we can
screw like minks and still never procreate *by choice.*

>You're one twisted motherfucker all right...

Damn me not with faint praise.

>*We* make our kids happy, not Santa Claus. The way we choose to do that
>is our concern, not yours...

You make your kids happy by plopping them on department store
Santa's lap?  I'll refrain from commenting on how happy that makes
department store Santa.

Basically, that I don't like Christmas is none of *your* concern,
and if you can't get in the spirit of a good-natured peeve about the
whole thing, then why don't you shove a rag in your yap and wrap
your head with duct tape.  I'll slap a bow on your forehead and send
you to my aunt.  She hasn't been the same since Jim Bakker got
indicted, and would probably be thrilled to receive another
empty-headed loudmouth.

>Yeah, Christmas is a too commercial. That it's a cluster fuck for
>Drew-like people is a shame... for them. Everyone makes their own bed...

My biggest complaint is that hardware and auto-parts stores aren't
open on holidays.  It's the type of thing that doesn't bother your
average, parental Tom, Dick or

>- Harry

Exactly.

andy
banta@abingdon.sun.com
--
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
 by those who have not got it."
                                -- George Bernard Shaw
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: So this is Christmas
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:09:16 GMT
Organization: The Autodesk Menagerie - Housecat Division

In article <29719@castle.ed.ac.uk> jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (Jeremy Henderson) writes:
>Xmas !Peeve: Imagining what your girlfriend will look like in the present
>you bought her.
>
>Xmas Peeve: Realising that you'll never persuade her to wear it.


Years ago, a charming slender desert rat purchased for me one (1) pair
of crotchless panties ... with a whistle on them. I found them to be
vulgar. He also gave me a night thing that was reasonably tasteful.
I do not, however, regard gifts of clothing as gifts, unless I have
specified exactly what I want. 

I looked at the gent levelly and said, "That's very nice, now what
did you get *me* for my birthday?" The next Christmas he got me a toolbox
and some opal earrings. :-)

Get her jewelry or power tools. Ask her to model the gift without other
adornment of any kind. I guarantee you will have more success with
tasteful opals or other semi-precious materials than you will with crap
from Trailer Trash....er.....Frederick's of Hollywood.

Peeve: I lost one of the earrings.

Peeve: I lost one of a pair of replacement earrings that someone else
	gave me.

ResultantPeeve: I don't trust myself to wear jewelry, so what little
	I have left is locked in a safe deposit box.

ER

--

Heard of any plans for Malcolm XI?
-cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com
From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: A Definite Not-Peeve, involves money
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:10:06 GMT
Organization: russ at home in Albuquerque New Mexico

In article <1992Dec17.202300.8000@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
>   don "oswald was framed"(tm) baldwin
>
>   first-name "quoted-material" last-name format used courtesy of
>   Laura Potler, copyright 1991

Wait a damn minute here.  The 'first_name "quoted material" last_name'
format wasn't invented by l "baked goods make me horney" p, it's been
in use in alt.folklore.urban for some time now.  lp just carried it
over, or caught a bit of crossover and liked it enough to use it.  It
is rather appropos sometimes...

*WARNING: Compunerdy peeve follows*

ObPeeve: this is my first peeve on my "new" home system.  The "old"
system, now in the shop, died a horrible death likely necessitating a
new motherboard.  This is a nice little system, a 486DX50, but still
not as fast as the old 88K beast.  The larger disk will be
appreciated.  Oh, yeah, the peeve: attempting to transplant hardware
from one box to another with absolutely no documentation.  Systems act
a bit funny when the OS sees 2 disk controllers with overlapping
addresses, etc.

-- Russ "toy's r me" Kepler
-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home   bbxrbk!russ@bbx.basis.com
Will hack unix for food
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: nolan@twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw)
Subject: Re: Alarm clocks & Guns 'n Roses
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Reply-To: nolan@twg.com
Organization: Acme Public Address, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:27:18 GMT


In article <BzDxpM.Ir3@news.iastate.edu>, z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Cereal Killer) writes:
[stuff]
	Oh!  That classical song I couldn't remember?  It's the song from
	the Wizard's Apprentice scene in Fantasia.  You know the one.

The Sorcerer's Apprentice, by Paul Dukas. Peeve: youngsters - too short an
attention span to read the credits or listen to the narration.

	Anyway, pump this stuff through a 400w power amp and into two
	Bozak Concert Grands and you'll have yourself metric shitloads of 
	great wake-up action.
	
	Peeve: this wakes my roomies, neighbors, and any passing police
	now that I live in the city.

An old buddy (as a matter of fact, my cellmate in the asylum) had a homebrewed
Hi fi public address system - 1KW per channel into a pair of HUGE speaker
cabinets with ground transducers. He also had a garage full of studio quality
audio goodies and some very special record albums. One of these was a sound
effects album, pre-recorded foley stuff like: 60 seconds of breaking glass, 30
seconds of sirens, like that. Another was a recording of some of the machines
in Mercedes Benz's museum taking laps at the factory test track. One
Halloween, just after he'd assembled the array of goodies, he fired up the car
sounds with the amps turned up to 11, and ...

You shoulda seen the outbreak of county sherrifs in the neighborhood!

Next year it was the sound effects, with the same results.
--
Ar aghaidh leat!

Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: dmcanzi@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (David Canzi)
Subject: Brain-dead BBS software, sysops, and users
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:14:21 GMT

Some time ago I KILL'ed all articles from a particular poster or
containing any mention of that poster because all his articles had
titles truncated to 33 characters.  There is no rational reason for any
news software to do this.  The software in question has no trouble with
full 80-character lines in the body of the article, why would it ever
truncate titles?  I don't just mean that articles he posted had short
titles, but when he follows up somebody else's article, the title of
the article is truncated.  He ends up posting an article with a subject
line like: "Subject: re: Brain-dead BBS softwa".

I figured this was an aberration.  I figured that sooner or later
somebody would notice or complain, the software would be corrected, and
everything would be fine.  I figured that hardly anybody would be
stupid enough install this software on their systems without noticing
this idiotic misfeature and either correcting it or complaining to the
vendor.

I figured wrongly.  It turns out that BBS systems running this damned
mushyware are multiplying like rabbits.  Users and sysops, apparently,
are unable to recognize the obnoxiousness and total unnecessity of
truncating article titles.  What explanation other than stupidity on
the parts of sysops and users can account for the growing popularity of
BBS software that's so awfully and *visibly* defective?

Where does this alleged software come from?  What can be done to stop
this plague from spreading?
-- 
David Canzi
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: Claudio.Terrorist@ed.ac.uk (Claudio Calvelli)
Subject: Re: Haunted
Organization: The Tea Party Of The Vicar
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:31:13 GMT
Reply-To: Claudio.Terrorist@ed.ac.uk (Claudio Calvelli)
X-Posted-From: colonsay.dcs.ed.ac.uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Thomas A. Dennis writes:

[ I wrote ]
> >As the post office is now a pile of ashes, I have no place to take
> >the letter to. It looks like a christmas card. Anybody wants it?
> 
> 1.  Open the card.  If there is money, send it to me.

If there is a bomb, I'll send to you as well.

 
C.T.
From: dcoyle@holly.gpsemi.com (Diarmuid Coyle LDC X2414 AKA "The Terminator")
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Santa Claus
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:41:19 GMT
Organization: GEC Plessey Semiconductors


WHAT you mean Santa Claus is NOT real!!??
From: booter@Autodesk.COM (Elaine Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Tea time
Date: 12 Dec 92 18:44:10 GMT
Organization: The Autodesk Menagerie - Housecat Division

In article <1992Dec10.183432.17004@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
>Peeve #1:  Every time I arrive at work in truly dire need of some tea, we're
>out of Earl Grey.  However, we never run out of those crappy little
>decaffeinated teas, like Cinnamon Apple Spice, Mint Medley or (AARGH!)
>Red Zinger.

Hey, I *like* red zinger.

I don't know why. Maybe it has Brain Control chemicals in it like McDonald's
french fries.

>
>Peeve #2:  Those mornings when we do have Earl Grey tea, I go to pull the
>bag out of the little envelope...and the string comes off of the teat bag.


I say, this is in the running for Freudian Slip of the Year Award.

Stay out of the bathroom when your wife is having her monthies, Don!
It could get embarassing.


Peeve: Tea that has to be boiled and treated strangely. I went to a store
and picked up some herb tea. The ingredients looked very tasty. It had
cinnamon, clove, carob and other stuff. I happily purchased it and toted it
home. It had to be boiled for 30 minutes.

That will teach me for not finishing reading the label.

ER
--

Heard of any plans for Malcolm XI?
-cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: greg@cherokee.b23b.ingr.com (Greg Moritz)
Subject: Re: Bleeding heart liberals
Reply-To: greg@cherokee.b23b.ingr.com (Greg Moritz)
Organization: Dazix, An Intergraph Company
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:35:43 GMT

dennis@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Thomas A. Dennis) qrites:

>Depends on your perspective... the term "Indian" was hung on 
>Native Americans by Columbus, and there's no love lost there.

Does anyone know how many generations it takes to become a "Native?"

Is it ten?, one hundred?, one thousand?  I guess *I'm* not, but
I'm only five or six generations removed from the other continent
(on some branches of my tree).

Why is it that a person born in Denver is a "Native" as soon as they're
born?  (People who have lived there for 25 years are considered semi-
native.)

Perhaps the "Indigenous People(s)" could all get together and decide on 
a term in one of the indigenous languages that the rest of us can use to 
refer to them.
From: dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (No such file or directory)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Audio Bites
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:24:17 GMT
Organization: The San Jose Home for Perverted Hackers

banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:

>avdh@dazixco.ingr.com writes:
>[A decent peeve!]

>>		THIS SUNDAY!!
>>		AT RALPH SPOILSPORT MOTORS!!

>Ok.  You got me started, and I can't take it any more.

>A couple evenings a week, circumstance permits that I watch Saturday
>Night Live reruns on Comedy Central. I'm getting SICK TO DEATH of the
>Semicid commercial.  The opening line, spoken by some reasonable
>nubile young thing, is "I used to take the pill, but who wants to
>think about birth control everyday?"  Obviously, nobody ever looked
>her straight in the eye and said "Well, you prudish, cold-fish,
>teasing piece of whore-meat, how about someone who thinks about
>*sex* every day?"

Right on!

Man this commercial bugs the hell out of me more than
    Martini and Rossi's new year's ad
    any Douche ad
    the "Open! Open! Open!" ad from Mervyn's
    yeast infection ads [go make yogurt!  go bake some sourdough bread!]

It never fails me to scream out WELL FUCK YOU BITCH!  THE ONLY GOOD THING
I CAN SAY ABOUT YOU IS THAT YOU'RE PROUD OF THE FACT THAT YOU'RE A COLD FISH
WHO WOULDN'T KNOW A GOOD FUCK FROM FILING A TEN-FOURTY FORM!  NOW GET THE
FUCK OFF OF THE TEEVEE AND LET'S HAVE SOME MORE T&A!

"Just" once a day honey?  What the hell did you do on your
honeymoon?  Go taste wine and look for antiques?
-- 
I still miss my ex-wife.
But my aim is getting better!
From: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Cereal Killer)
Subject: Re: Alarm clocks & Guns 'n Roses
Reply-To: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Cereal Killer)
Organization: John Deere Product Development and Pathology Lab
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:58:32 GMT

cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen) writes:

>OBantiPeeve: Yes, I bought a GNR CD. Now don't flame me, because it had
>	     two distinct advantages.: When hooked up to my stereo-timer,
>	     it was loud enough to actually wake me up. I know Metallica
>	     would have better but the second advantage of GNR is that
>	     it is *SO* awful that I just have to get out of bed to
>	     put it off.

	Based upon my considerable experience in this area, GnR are not
the choice of sound to be awakened to.  Try side one of Machine Head by
Deep Purple.  Another fun interlude is a particular strain of classical
music which I cannot remember the name of.  It starts slow, almost like
that Elephant March thing, and just gets progressively faster and
faster.  A slow wake-up, quite nice.  Frankenstein by Edgar Winter is
excellent too, and even Ride of the Valkries has its moments.

	Oh!  That classical song I couldn't remember?  It's the song from
the Wizard's Apprentice scene in Fantasia.  You know the one.

	Anyway, pump this stuff through a 400w power amp and into two
Bozak Concert Grands and you'll have yourself metric shitloads of great
wake-up action.

	Peeve: this wakes my roomies, neighbors, and any passing police
now that I live in the city.



--
< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire  >
<   written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young                    >
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Fuck Christmas
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Date: 12 Dec 1992 01:35:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Menlo Park, Ca.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com



nolan@lurch.twg.com (Nolan Hinshaw) writes:

>Thar's mean folk here who'll be glad ta rip ya a new rectum fer 
>no good reason. 


Rectum?  We never even *drove* `um!



Geoff


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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: net.stupidities
Keywords: idiots geeks losers
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:56:00 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <BzF6p1.CAI@nic.umass.edu> jennyg@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Jenny Gutbezahl) writes:
 
|Peeve:  Incredible amounts of static on the line caused by the storms & too
|many goddam users trying to get their pathetic assignmen.
|KXUu}

Ya ever notice that whenever you get line noise it always contains a 
"}" character somewhere in the string.   Coincidence?

-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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