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From: parnass@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Subject: Northern Illinois hamfest list -- September
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL
Distribution: il
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:22:10 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: ham radio, electronic flea market


       SEPTEMBER HAMFEST CALENDAR 1992 - NORTHERN ILLINOIS

     September 13, Sunday:  Joliet,  IL  -  Bolingbrook  ARS
     Ham/Computerfest,  Inwood  Recreation  Center,  3000 W.
     Jefferson.  Use Exit 253 from  I55,  or  Exits  126/130
     from  I80.   For more info, call BARS Hotline (708)759-
     7005.

     September 19-20, Saturday & Sunday: Peoria, IL - Super-
     fest  92.   Exposition  Gardens,  West  Northmoor Road.
     Starts  6AM.   Admission  $5.   For  more   info   call
     (309)685-6698.  Talk in on 146.76 (-600 kHz offset).

     September 26-27, Saturday &  Sunday:  Grayslake,  IL  -
     Chicago  FM  Club,  Ham  Radio Expo.  Lake County Fair-
     grounds, Rts 45 & 120.  6AM -  6PM.   DeVry  VEC  tests
     given  9AM  -  12  Noon  both  days, $5.40 testing fee.
     Admission $6 at gate,  one  ticket  good  for  2  days.
     Children under 12 free.

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Bob Parnass, AJ9S  -  AT&T Bell Labs  -  parnass@ihlpm.att.com - (708)979-5414
From: jab0684@usl.edu (Boudreaux Jean A)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Local Frequencies wanted
Date: 4 Sep 92 07:41:08 GMT
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana

In article <1992Sep4.071946.12901@usl.edu> jab0684@usl.edu (Boudreaux Jean A) writes:
>KB5UDF
>jean@usl.edu
>
>

Apparently I had a prob w/ my text in the previous post.
What I wanted to mention was that my local Radio Shack just got
in new copies of their 1992 revies Police Call guide.  I find it
to be an excellent reference for local police/public service/fire
frequencies.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jon@Turing.ORG (Jon Gefaell (KD4CQY))
Subject: Re: Excellent customer service story
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:27:47 GMT

In article <BtJsyD.BKt@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tlc20700@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thomas L. Carney) writes:
>
>The bottom line is this:  COMPANIES WHO CONSIDER CUSTOMER SERVICE A 
>NECESSARY EVIL DON'T HAVE DECENT CUSTOMER SERVICE.  THOSE COMPANIES 
>WHO CONSIDER CUSTOMER SERVICE AN INVESTMENT IN THE FUTURE GET AND 
>KEEP LOYAL CUSTOMERS BY HAVING GOOD CUSTOMER SERVICE.


Now we take a big chisel and pound it into their heads, over and
over. Yet, somehow, it seems to to be understood :(

Customer service always impresses me. Well, or poorly. And, it seems
that companies which have good customer service tend to have good
products as well. Seems that the type of companies that can grasp
this concept are the same type's that do good work all around. 

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jab0684@usl.edu (Boudreaux Jean A)
Subject: Re: microwave help wanted
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 07:37:11 GMT

I am curious about how the spectrum above 900 mhz is allocated, ie to 
what services.  What are the bands up here?  What are the amateur 
privdledges above 1.2 ghz? Lastly, what are the propagational characteristics
and uses of the bands?

Thanks,
KB5UDF
jean@usl.edu
From: grady@public.BTR.COM ( )
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Uselessness of ARES/RACES
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:26:57 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

Hey! I'm not saying that hams _can't_ be useful 
in an emergency -- I'm just saying that only a
fool would _rely_ upon them.                                          
                                                                            
In fact, I think ARES and RACES groups would                            
be much more useful in an emergency if they
were to rip out all their radios from their             
antenna and light-bar festooned vans and install
coffee urns and a donut bar in order to assist
the _real_ professional police and fire-fighters.
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 40-m vertical from downspout
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:42:55 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

derry@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John Derry) writes:


>Three sections a aluminum downsspout (plus a smidgen more) seems like
>a gud idea for a 40-m vert.  (With "radicals" of course.  How many times
>have you seen postings about vertical antennas and their "radicals"?)

That's the problem with vertical antennas.   You need too many radicals.
Since Tom Hayden and Jane Fonda split up, there aren't enough radicals
to go around.


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From: ron@pilot.njin.net (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I Lost My License ID
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:11:03 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

> I lost my wallet (and my license ID card ) yesterday.How can I get
> this card replaced? Thanks.

Send in a 610 and attach to it an explanation of how your license
was lost.

-Ron
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From: bill@prijat.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gunshannon)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Date: 1 Sep 92 11:41:30 GMT
Reply-To: bill@platypus.uofs.edu
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Organization: University of Scranton, Scranton, PA

In article <l9qhf3INNn02@news.bbn.com>, levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) writes:
|> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:
|> |Huh?  If memory serves, I've never seen a television UHF dial that went
|> |beyond 60 in the first place.  
|> 
|> Youth speaks.  All tvs with uhf went from 14 to 83 (probably any tv
|> that has an old click-tuner for uhf does that).

How right you are.  Before detent-tuners, UHF tuners where nothing more than 
a variable capacitor.  You could even tune in audio that didn't fall directly
on the audio sub-carrier of the various UHF channels.

|> 
|> |				And I know for a fact that I've never
|> |heard of a UHF station higher than 54 (the local UHF PBS affiliate).
|> 
|> In my local area are:
|> 	Channel 56 (Independent, Boston)
|> 	Channel 60 (Independent, Merrimack, NH)
|> 	Channel 66 (Independent (home shopping), Lawrence*, MA)
|> 	Channel 68 (Monitor channel [for now], Boston)
|> 

Most of the higher channels were and are still used for translators.  Low
power transmitters that are used to provide service to remote locations that
have poor reception of the base channel because of little things like mountains.
Locally, we have translators as high as channel 78, with all 5 local stations
running at least 6 translators as well as their base channel.

bill     KB3YV

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: reisert@mast.enet.dec.com ("Jim Reisert, AD1C  25-Aug-1992 2004")
Subject: ARLB076 Hurricane Andrew
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:03:01 PDT
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ZCZC AG98
QST de W1AW  
ARRL Bulletin 76  ARLB076
From ARRL Headquarters  
Newington CT  August 23, 1992
To all radio amateurs 
 
SB QST ARL ARLB076
ARLB076 Hurricane Andrew
 
Hurricane Andrew (25.4 N, 75.8 W at 1800Z, August 23, Winds to 150
mph) is expected to hit the Bahamas this afternoon.  The storm is
expected on the southern Florida coast in the predawn hours monday.
Amateurs are advised to monitor the Hurricane Watch Net frequency
14.325 mhz and the International Assistance and Traffic Net on
14.303 mhz, but to not transmit on these frequencies except in
response to instructions from the net control station.  Florida
emergency nets are expected to be activated on the 75 meter and 40
meter bands, according to ARRL Northern and Southern Florida Section
Managers.  Monitor your local NOAA weather broadcasts for storm
coordinates and bulletins.
 
Welfare inquiry traffic should not be accepted from the public until
authorities in the affected areas indicate they are able to process
inquiries.  Priority must be given to immediate disaster relief
communications.  Control of the communication situation lies with
the amateurs and authorities in the affected areas.
NNNN
From: ali@ukc.ac.uk (A.L.Ibbetson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Ham Stores in North FLA?
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:50:16 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

I am visiting Florida in two weeks and would like to buy some MFJ ham
gear over there.  I will be travelling by car in the north of the state
(for obvious reasons), from Orlando up.  Can anyone suggest the
`reputable' dealers in that area?  A phone number would help, so I can
check they stock the gear I want.

Thanks,

Alan G3XAQ
From: phil@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Phil English)
Subject: <<<WANTED, ICOM HT, USED>>>>
Keywords: <<<WANTED, ICOM HT, USED>>>>
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 15:07:31 GMT

	AM LOOKING FOR A USED ICOM HT AT A REASONABLE PRICE, DON'T KNOW TOO 
MUCH ABOUT THEM EXCEPTING THEY ARE SMALL, LIGHT AND RELIABLE. IT WILL BE 
USED FOR ALPINE MOUNTAINEERING EMERGENCIES IN THE ALASKA RANGE. MUST 
OPERATE OFF AA CELLS. PLEASE EMAIL RESPONSE.
					THNX, PHIL
From: mansha@ham-and-cheese.cs.wisc.edu (Rajesh Mansharamani)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Electronic Circuit Analysis Program
Date: 30 Aug 92 18:58:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

I am looking for source code (preferably in C) for Electronic Circuit Analysis
(ECA) programs. Where is such source code available? Can it be obtained free?
Please send your reply to mansha@cs.wisc.edu.

Thanks a lot,

Rajesh K. Mansharamani
Computer Sciences Department
University of Wisconsin-Madison
mansha@cs.wisc.edu
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: RG 8 atten @ 20 Mhz?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:20:45 GMT

Rajiv Dewan writes:
> about 350' away from the radio
> what kind of attenuation figures you might run into
> >in that range? Maybe for RG-8?

RG-8 has loss of .9 dB per 100 feet at 20 MHz.  350 feet would give a
loss of 3.15 dB.  This is roughly half of one "S" unit: a station that 
would be S9 with a much shorter run of coax would be S8.5; this is
generally not enough of a difference to notice.  350 feet is a bit on the
long side for a coax run, but if you're careful with your connectors
to minimize loss there, you should be ok.  Good luck.

************************
* These are my opinions only.*
************************
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: markm@bigfoot.sps.mot.com (Mark Monninger)
Subject: Re: Best way to leard Morse code?
Originator: root@mogate.sps.mot.com
Reply-To: rapw20@email.sps.mot.com
Organization: SPS
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:49:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.064159.23128@news.Hawaii.Edu>  
joe@montebello.soest.hawaii.edu (Joe Dellinger) writes:
>  ...
> 	I've certainly found using the Farnseworth option cranked up
> to 15 or so really helped me learn the "pattern" of dits and dahs. But
> remember the test itself is pure PARIS.
>  ...
If by PARIS you mean not Farnsworth, that's not necessarily true. The
VE team has the option of using Farnsworth or not. I believe the test
tapes supplied by the ARRL are Farnsworth, except for the 20 wpm. The
5 wpm is sent at 12 wpm character speed and the 13 is sent at 18 (I
think those are correct). The 20 is sent at 20. The W5YI tapes are 
similar. 

I strongly recommend the Farnsworth method. Crank the character speed
up to at least 20 wpm...25 is probably better. To get beyond 10 or so
wpm you have to recognize the sound...listening to the individual dits
and dahs and trying to decode them just won't cut it...you have to link
the sound with the letter without any intermediate processing.

Although some people claim success with tapes, I've found the computer
pgms like SuperMorse or Morse Academy to be the best. Tapes aren't
flexible enough and you tend to rapidly memorize them.

Of course, tapes and computers will help you prepare for the tests. To
prepare for actually using Morse code, the best way is to get on the
air and do it. The real world of CW is a lot different from the nice
clean sound on the tapes or computers.

73 es GL....    Mark   KG7JL
^^^^^^^^ oops...it might not be appropriate to use these here...
         I guess I should say Best Regards and Good Luck....   :-)
         (I've been known to use Q signals on phone, too...)
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From: jay@deepthot.cary.nc.us (Jay Denebeim)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:44:31 GMT
Organization: The Software Distillery
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <l9qcl7INNkvl@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, Geoff Miller writes:

> 
> Huh?  If memory serves, I've never seen a television UHF dial that went
> beyond 60 in the first place.  And I know for a fact that I've never
> heard of a UHF station higher than 54 (the local UHF PBS affiliate).

Sorry to differ with you, but I posess a black and white TV with channels
up to the original 83.  Also in Kansas City there is, I believe, a UHF 
station at around 60 or so.

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From: reay@bnlls1.nsls.bnl.gov (Robert Reay)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:13:37 GMT
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973

In article <1992Aug30.145623.18862@afit.af.mil> jmiller@afit.af.mil (Jeffrey C Miller) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.214645.4889@mv.mv.com> mem@mv.mv.com (Mark E. Mallett) writes:
>>In article <l9qhf3INNn02@news.bbn.com> levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) writes:
>>>	Channel 56 (Independent, Boston)
>>Which has the best TV callsign I know of:  WLVI.
>They're not the only ones:  WXIX, Ch 19, Cincinnati.
WXXI channel 21 in Rochester NY.

			-Rob
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From: carolo@cse.ucsc.edu (Carol Osterbrock)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cellular Frequencies
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:23:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu

In article <l9qcl7INNkvl@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Geoff Miller) writes:

>Huh?  If memory serves, I've never seen a television UHF dial that went
>beyond 60 in the first place.  And I know for a fact that I've never
>heard of a UHF station higher than 54 (the local UHF PBS affiliate).

My parents' TV goes up to 83.  It is about 20 years old.  It doesn't
seem to receive cellular phone conversations though, not that I would
try, since it's illegal.  Also, there's a channel 60, which is also
an educational station in the bay area, and a channel 67 in Salinas
which is Hispanic.

My question is, have there ever been any UHF stations higher than 70?
If so, what happened to them when the cellular phones got assigned
those frequencies?

-carol "just curious" o
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: chrisc@ramrod.lmt.mn.org (Chris Cox)
Subject: Re: PL-259's and ANY Coax
Organization: LaserMaster Technologies, Minneapolis, MN  USA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:50:28 GMT

In article <1594@idacrd.UUCP> n4hy@idacrd.UUCP (Bob McGwier) writes:
>From: n4hy@idacrd.UUCP (Bob McGwier)
>Subject: PL-259's and ANY Coax
>Date: 1 Sep 92 14:16:34 GMT

>Just say NO!

>I change all PL-259's to N type on all VHF+ equipment I own.

>BMc

Here, here!

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: ICOM service is GREAT
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:35:20 EST
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <3589@atlas.tegra.COM>, vail@tegra.COM (Johnathan Vail) wrote:
> This is a problem with every IC-24.  There is an adjustment for this.
> I know people who have adjusted it who didn't have a manual.  With the
> schematic they give you and some careful probing I wouldn't think it
> would be too difficult to tweak (that means I think I could do it and
> I am by no means an RF tech).

Johnathan-

I'm an RF tech of sorts, and I guarantee the IC-24 isn't as easy to work on
as older, larger handhelds.  A guy could go blind trying to locate and
change some of the micro-miniature componenets!  It would be pure luck if
you could locate specific parts based only on the diagram that came with
the radio.

According to the diagram, the only adjustments for modulation (voice), are
two potentiometers for peak deviation: one for the VHF VCO, and one for the
UHF VCO.  To change average deviation, one would have to change fixed
resistors in the feedback circuit of an amplifier stage.  This assumes
there isn't a defective component.

To be fair to Icom, I have received E-mail from others who insist that
IC-24 service manuals are readily available, directly from Icom customer
service.  In spite of this, an Icom rep from Atlanta promised to send me a
copy back in March.  What he sent was a poor copy of the owner's manual.

If the IC-24 manuals are available as others claim, this indicates that
either AES hasn't been leveling with me, or Icom treats orders for manuals
from them differently than they do orders directly from us.  On the other
hand, I ordered the service manual for the IC-2410 last September, and AES
received it in about a month.

73, Fred, K4DII
fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
From: jon@Turing.ORG (Jon Gefaell (KD4CQY))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Speaking Of Q-Codes...
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:28:19 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

In article <1992Aug28.084845.5164@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK> ees1mw@EE.Surrey.Ac.UK (Mike Willis) writes:
>In article <15217@ksr.com> jfw@ksr.com (John F. Woods) writes:
>>jon@Turing.ORG (Jon Gefaell (KD4CQY)) writes:
>>
>>Q-signals don't cause (much) obfuscation on amateur voice, because most hams
>>knew them at one point, and can easily pick up the common ones if they didn't
>>learn them or if they forgot.  However, they are rarely shorter than the
>>actual words they replace when *spoken*, so there's little point to using
>>them (and as I've pointed out, if your listener can't hear the difference
>>between QRM and QRN if either one is present, why not just use "interference"
>>or "noise"?).
>>
>Yes, but if I am in contact with a station who does not speak English very
>well, QRA, QTH QSL and QSY spoken in standard phonetics, are much better.
>Also if the conditions are bad in a contest I often ask 'What is your QRA'
>spelling out QRA (or Locator).
>
>Q Codes give the opertunity to use a minimum set of words for a QSO.
>Therefore a non-english speaker only needs to know
>
>Your Callsign,
>RST
>QTH
>QSY....UP.....Down
>QSL....Bureau
>ROGER
>73
>
>1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,0
>
>to make the contact.
>
>This is where (and only where) Q codes should be spoken. Maybe in Europe
>we have more non-english speakers on VHF within communication range.


Unfortunately these points seem to be being missed:

1.) Appopriatness of Pro-signs Vs. Pro-words is **NOT* frequency dependant!
    It is **MODE* dependant, with VOICE modes using Pro-WORDS and Digital
    modes using Pro-signs.

2.) Each phonetic alphabetical character is a word, therefore QRX with three
    sylables is longer than 'Stand By'

3.) Diferent languages use diferent aplhabets, therefor it is as 'easy' to
    use english Pro-words as it is to use english phonetics.

4.) IT is as easy to understand 'Roger' as it is to understand 'QSL' perhaps
    easier, regardless of Interference.

Thank you :)
From: ron@pilot.njin.net (Ron Natalie)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Japanese communication; Re: Kenwood Service SUCKS!!!
Date: 27 Aug 92 19:32:07 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


> One might add that in many countries (including Japan and Great Britain),
> If you give 'em h..., you look like a nut, and are not taken very seriously.

Much the same in the U.S., but people have a hard time realizing that.

-Ron
From: greg@hprnd.rose.hp.com (Greg Dolkas)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:54:40 GMT
Subject: Yaesu 767 opinions wanted...
Organization: HP Roseville Networks Division
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

I'm thinking of purchasing a used Yaesu 767 (with 2,6,440 modules) for Ham
and SWL use.  The asking price is $1850.

This is a lot more than I was hoping to spend on a rig, but that seems the
price range for something good these days...

So, experts...

   1) is this a rig which will last me a long time (both in terms of quality
      and features)  I don't want to have to keep upgrading con$tantly.

   2) how effective is it in doing SWL work?

Thanks for your opinions,

Greg  KD6KGW
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: w1gsl@athena.mit.edu (Steven L. Finberg)
Subject: Re: Did this guy really sit *4 YEARS* in Prison ??
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 03:30:16 GMT

In article <9208311219.utk24096@FAB8.intel.com> RHAREL@FAB8.INTel.COM (RICHARD HAREL) writes:
>I recently picked this one off the local Packet BBS.
>I was wondering if anyone out there in NetLand knows
>more about this case ?
>
>>11,1981 for violating the operating procedures of Part 97.  
>>On December 17, 1984, Burton was convicted of having 
>>violated Section 318 of the Communications Act and 
>>sentenced to four years imprisonment.  Eventually, after 
>>serving a prison sentence, Burton was placed on five years 
>>probation, which ended December 17, 1989.  Immediately 
>

Read it carefully  

Five years probation ended on 12-17-89  must have started on 12-18-84
since he was convicted  on    12-17-84 he couldn't have spent much time
in the can before they started the five year probation,  In fact I bet the
prison time was reduced to that served before the conviction or 1 day!


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