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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: FTP "welcome" message
From: MJSTRAW@grove.iup.edu (Mark_Strawcutter)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:50 EST
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

Some time ago, I FTPed into a VMS/MultiNet system that had a nice little
(10 lines or so) "welcome" explaining that it was a VMS machine and here's
how directories are specified, and what file names look like, etc.

I'd like to use the /MESSAGE facility of the FTP server to do this.  I want
to "borrow" the verbage but can't remember where I saw it.  Anybody care to
point me at a system with what they consider a "good" FTP welcome?

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Mark J Strawcutter                           BitNet:    MJSTRAW@IUP
Director, Systems and Communications         DNS (mx):  mjstraw@grove.iup.edu 
Indiana University of Pennsylvania           Voice:     (412) 357-4000
Indiana, PA   15705                          "you can't nail jello to a tree"
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: Problems with Multinet 3.1 ftp
From: adelman@TGV.COM (Kenneth Adelman)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 93 21:02:14 PST
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

> I have problems with ftp. Small files that I want to transfer are not received
> and a dir stops reproducable at the same point during the output onto the
> screen.
> I checked the behavior and selected a the same file-server using a DECstation.
> There I had no problems.
> Are there any chances to locate the problem (i.e. wrong system params).

    Are the smal files transferd with MGET or GET? There is a race
condition in the V3.1 FTP which can result in a hang during some
types of operations; this is fixed in V3.2 which is shipping now.

								 Ken
From: adelman@TGV.COM (Kenneth Adelman)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: Re: Problem with X11 TCP/IP transport not finding host names
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 10:48:27 PST
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

> I am having a problem with the TCPIP transport finding hosts.  I have seen
> this before, when some old UCX files existed in the SYS$SYSTEM directory.
> I have renamed all of the UCX$*.DAT files to other names, but the problems
> persist.

> Here is a sample:

> VAX2::[] >> sh disp/symb

>     Device:	 WSA112:  [super]
>     Node:	 XBOSTON
>     Transport: TCPIP
>     Server:	 0
>     Screen:	 0

> VAX2::[] >> mu trac 'DECW$DISPLAY_NODE'
> traceroute to xboston (147.107.244.120), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets
>  1  cn_whip1-e4 (147.107.3.200)  0 ms  0 ms  10 ms
>  2  wpvaxbup (147.107.7.203)	10 ms  10 ms  10 ms
>  3  pwvaxbup-wan (147.107.9.201)  10 ms  10 ms  10 ms
>  4  147.107.1.211 (147.107.1.211)  20 ms  20 ms  10 ms
>  5  boston_site (147.107.245.201)  320 ms  60 ms  110 ms
>  6  xboston (147.107.244.120)  50 ms	80 ms  50 ms
> VAX2::[] >> mu x11
> %X11DEBUG-I-STARTING, MultiNet X11 transport diagnostics starting...
> %X11DEBUG-F-UNKNOWNHOST, unknown host XBOSTON
> -X11DEBUG-I-USERACTION, reissue the SET DISPLAY command with a valid /NODE=
> qualifier
> VAX2::[] >>

> As you can see, the node xboston exists and is responding, and MultiNet knows
> about it for the Traceroute, but the TCPIP transport doesn't see it.

> I've tried the obvious of putting the host name in quotes so that is is
> "xboston" not XBOSTON but it makes no difference.  I've even restarted the
> MultiNet server after renaming the UCX$*.DAT file.

> What else can I do?  Any suggestions would be gratefully accepted.

    What is the full name of the machine xboston, and the full name of
your machine?  The UCX $QIO emulation won't consult a HOSTALIASES
file, and won't do "domain-searching" for the name.

							    Ken
From: RAS@GV3.CACD.CR.ROCKWELL.COM
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.tcp-ip.multinet
Subject: RE: mail problem
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:33:22 -0600 (CST)
Organization: Info-Multinet<==>Vmsnet.Networks.Tcp-Ip.Multinet Gateway
X-Gateway-Source-Info: Mailing List

>> 
>>A question about Internet mail and Multinet: Is there any way to set the return
>>time on old undeliverable mail messages? A user (and a manager) of mine
>>recently complained about learning 4 days later that his message didn't get
>>through. He would prefer wait no longer than 24 hours. Is this a user settable
>>variable?
>> 
>>Thank You,
>>Scott Fullner, JPL Navigation
>++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>   In setting the return time as low as one day, you will likely arouse the
>ire of those who are sending mail to the outer corners of the globe, to eastern
>europe, south and central america. My users do much such, and it is no uncommon
>thing for a bit of mail to wait in the queue for 3-4 days awaiting a domain
>name server for the distant domain to become reachable, or connectivity to the
>distant host to be realized.
>
>   So you have two groups to satisfy, those who want their mail to get to the
>dark corners without them having to try several times, and those who don't
>want to wait 4 days to find out they misspelled the name of the guy in the
>next office. Best thing to do is to know how your mail is balanced among the
>groups. Failing this, lock the concerned parties in a windowless room without
>food and water and let them resolve the issue for you. 
>-jrf

Some SMTP mailers issue nondelivery messages on a periodic basis.  Thus after
the mail has been in queue for an hour, the sender would receive a message
similar to:

     From: Mailer_Daemon
     To:   originating_user
     Subject:  RE:  subject_line_of_original_message

     This message has not been delivered after 1 hour.

     The system will keep trying to deliver this message for 48 hours.
     At that time, the message will be returned to you.

     Thank you for your patience.

Using nondelivery times of 1/2, 1, 2, 4, 8, 12, 16, 24, 36, and 48 hours
(actually 1/2, 1, and 24 are probably sufficient) would ensure that the 
originator was well aware of the delay in delivery yet allow sufficient 
time for the message to get through a slow link.

Does anyone think a feature of this sort should be included in Multinet?



Bob Schneider

Computer Support Services          ras@gv3.cacd.cr.rockwell.com
Computer Support Engineering       ras@131.198.128.53
Rockwell International             ras%29795.decnet@consort.rockwell.com
400 Collins Road NE  M/S 106-180   raschnei@crems.cr.rockwell.com
Cedar Rapids, IA  52498

Voice:  319/395-3863
FAX:    319/395-3841
From: Peter Smode <psmode@jeslacs.wimsey.bc.ca>
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.misc
Subject: Lost LAT sessions
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 15:24:33 PST
Organization: JES Library Automation, Coquitlam BC, CANADA

We have a bit of an oddball problem happening at a couple of our sites.
From time to time (measured in weeks or months), we will get one or
more interactive terminal sessions on LTAxxxx: terminals getting
"lost in space". The symptoms are as follows:
- a SHOW USERS FULL will be missing the (server/port) address for the
LTAxxx: terminal
- the process will INHALE all available CPU time, at elivated priority.
This effectively turns the system into a dog.
- it is suspected that users terminal sessions just go dead in the
water with no terminal response. We are not sure as users are not
giving us good information when these situations occur.
- SHOW ERROR reveals nothing
- NCP counters do no show anything out of the ordinary
- happens for both direct and dialup connections on any port, any server
- server error counters do not seem to indicate trouble.
 more
So far, DEC has sent the latest patch kits and had us install them, but
to no avail.

Has anybody got any ideas?

Both system on which this occurs are homogeneous CI-based VAXClusters.
CPUs include VAX 7xx, 8xxx and 6xxx based machines. VMS versions are
5.3-x and 5.4-x.

-- Peter

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*   Peter Smode                 E-mail:    psmode@jeslacs.wimsey.bc.ca   *
*   JES Library Automation      Voice:     (604)939-6775                 *
*   Coquitlam, BC, CANADA       Fax:       (604)939-9970                 *
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.misc
From: jav@crash.cts.com (Javier Henderson)
Subject: LAN/WAN issues
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 27 Jan 93 12:04:12 PST


Hello, everyone,

I have the following scenario, which I'd like to present to the net and
see what other people may suggest.

The company I work for has a central site in Ventura, CA, and remote sites
around the state, between 80 and 300 miles away.

The central site has two VAX cpu's, and I need about 16-20 terminals or
printers at each remote site. There's no need to have 'stuff' at the remote
sites networked with the central site at this point (such as PC's running
Pathworks for example), but it may be needed in the future.

DEC's suggestion was to go with DECMuxes. Terry Poot suggested to use
a product called ILAN, to extend the LAN from the central site to the
remote sites. The VAXes have DECnet, but no TCP/IP. If we are to set up
DEC (or third party) terminal servers at the remote sites, they communicate
with the cpu's via LAT, a non-routable protocol.

What would you suggest?

Thanks,

Jav
jav@crash.cts.com


--
Javier Henderson
jav@crash.cts.com
From: millerl@logica.co.uk
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.misc
Subject: Message Router lockups
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:19:23 GMT

We are currently having problems with Message Router.

The MRLISTEN process are going into a state of RWMBX and locking up completely.

Has anyone experienced this or know of a way around.
From: BECKERJA%WPO1P%WPO2V@SNYCENVA.BITNET (Jim Becker)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Connection to Pathworks file service with
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:35:00 GMT
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================== Original message text ===================
 
Subj:     Connection to Pathworks file service without using
          windows file mgr
 
...What we're doing is converting from a DOS-based menuing system
that uses batch files to MS Windows...  We have batch files that
look like the following:
 
       USE H: \\node\application
       WP/NT...
       USE H:/D
 
Ideally, we'd like to use the same batch files, but since you
can't issue the use command in the batch file, we need to find a
way to make the connection, and disconnect from windows before we
execute the DOS application.
 
 
        Any one have any ideas or suggestions?  Any help would be
greatly appreciated...
 
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~       Mark Allen            | Internet: MARK@OJC.COLORADO.EDU ~
~       Computer Programmer C   | DECNET:   OJC::MARK           ~
~                             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
========================= My comments ===========================
 
 
I'm confused as to why you can't do a USE command in a batch file
from Windows.  I currently use the same batch files as my DOS
clients use...at least I haven't seen any problems with them so
far.
 
==================================================================
Jim Becker          |  __   LAN WP ____\ VMS WP ____\ WP/VMS Mail
State Univ. of NY   | |ME|  Office     / Office     /   Gateway
Central Admin.      |  ~~                                  |
TEL: (518) 443-5548 |                                      |
FAX: (518) 443-5799 |  ___   /~\__/~\                      V
E-MAIL:             | |YOU| |Internet| /___ Joiner /___ Innosoft
  BECKERJA@SNYCENVA |  ~~~   \_/~~\_/  \     JNET  \      PMDF
==================================================================
From: ahansfor@bigwpi.wpi.edu (Andrew L. Hansford)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Dynamic Service Attachment for Windows 3.1
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:46:40
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu


I am interested in hearing of methods that people use in using Windows
3.1 and Pathworks as far as attaching to services in an easy way.

Ideally:
A windows program icon would not require a Well Formed Path (WFP  ie
f:\appname)  for its path to the executable but instead would be given
the network path and would automatically attach to the service if
not already attached and run the application from there.

Of course it doesn't quite work this way.  I would like to have a
system were the user could simply click on an icon and have the
service attach and run. How have people approached this problem?  

Non-windows apps could use a PIF that runs a batch file, but how about
windows apps?  I have considered various solutions (such as Windows
Macros to manage the network connection) but I am more than willing to
listen to other solutions.


-- Andrew Hansford
   Electrical and Computer Engineering
   Worcester Polytechnic Institute
   ahansfor@ee.wpi.edu
From: jcao@rnd.GBA.NYU.EDU (Jingbin Cao)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Graphics terminal emulation, e.g. Tektronics, on Pathworks? Help!
Keywords: graphics, terminal emulation, tektronics, pathworks, ncsa telnet
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:16:56 GMT
Organization: NYU Stern School of Business

Several months ago, the system administration people decided to use
pathworks for the network in our school. Since then, we have been
unable to use Tektronics terminal emulation, which we had got
accustomed to when using NCSA Telnet before. Some other niceties like
ftp on the fly and multiple connections are also gone. Since the
capability of graphics terminal emulation is critical for our work,
which include using graphics in Mathematica and SAS, we have asked
several times for it, but without avail. So I'd like to ask netters of
this group for help. I suppose there are two ways to fix the problem:

(1) Perhaps we can somehow get Tek emulation from Pathworks, or

(2) We can somehow put NCSA Telnet on top of Pathworks. In this case,
    we'd like to know exactly how it can be done.

Any suggestions or pointers are greatly appreciated.

Jingbin Cao
NYU Business School

Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: houseman@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (Carl Houseman)
Subject: Re: Connection to Pathworks file service without using windows file mgr
Organization: UVA. FREE Public Access UNIX! 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:39:13 GMT

In article <01GTXMZMXHS200005H@VAXF.COLORADO.EDU> MARK@OJC.COLORADO.EDU writes:
>        Does anyone know if there is a way thru Microsoft windows to connect
>        to a network file or disk service without having to use the file
>        manager?  What we'd like to be able to do is create a windows batch
>        file that would make the connection to a service, run the application,
>        and disconnect from the service as soon as they exit.
>... 
>        What we're doing is converting from a DOS-based menuing system that
>        uses batch files to MS Windows...  We have batch files that look like
>        the following:
> 
>                USE H: \\node\application
>                WP/NT...
>                USE H:/D
> 
>        Ideally, we'd like to use the same batch files, but since you can't
>        issue the use command in the batch file, we need to find a way to
>        make the connection, and disconnect from windows before we execute
>        the DOS application.

We put USE commands in batch files that are run by double-clicking on a
Windows icon without any problem.  Most of ours are accessing LAD disks
rather than file services, but this shouldn't make a difference.  Can you
issue a USE command in a DOS Window and have it work?  If not you need one 
or more CSCPAT kits from DEC customer support.  One is CSCPAT 3037.  There
is another one (number escapes me) containing updated Windows drivers.

There is a whole 'nother problem if you want to do USE commands before/after
starting a WINDOWS application that is installed on the disk or file service.
But you didn't ask about that so I won't digress.

>        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>        ~       Mark Allen              | Internet: MARK@OJC.COLORADO.EDU ~
>        ~       Computer Programmer C   | DECNET:   OJC::MARK             ~
>        ~                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>        ~       Otero Junior College                                      ~
>        ~       La Junta, CO 81050              Curiosity killed the cat, ~
>        ~       (719) 384-6830                  but for a while there I   ~
>        ~                                       was the suspect.          ~
>        ~                                               - Steven Wright   ~
>        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Carl Houseman
houseman@hopper.acs.virginia.edu
GENICOM Engineering 703-949-1323
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: houseman@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (Carl Houseman)
Subject: Pathworks for Netware
Organization: UVA. FREE Public Access UNIX! 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:52:05 GMT

Does anyone have any information they can disclose about Pathworks for Netware?
Networld attendees, what did you see?  The DN&R article was enticing but vauge.
I'm trying to get information from our once-removed sales rep at a Digital
Authorized Distributor, but it must be on a slow boat from Maynard.

If you saw a previous post you'll know I'm interested in making connections
from Pathworks remote boot (i.e. DECnet) clients to Netware servers.

I also assume there is a product which duplicates the functionality of
Interconnections' File-Sharing Services (FSS), but this type of product only
solves half of our puzzle.


Carl Houseman
houseman@hopper.acs.virginia.edu (this addr may not be working yet)
GENICOM Engineering
703-949-1323
From: CHADWICK@UNMB.BITNET (John Chadwick)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: PW 4.1 and Windows
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:24:00 GMT
Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT
Original_To:  JNET%"lanworks@miamiu"

We are starting to move into the 20th century by installing MS Windows 3.1 on a
few of our newer machines. This is new territory for us (and me) and I was
wondering if anyone could pass along some suggestions and/or pitfalls to beware
of as we set up the machines.
 
 
Thanks,
 
john chadwick
chadwick@bootes.unm.edu
chadwick@unmb
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: lloyd@jeeves.engr.mun.ca (Lloyd Little)
Subject: File attributes with PCSA USE library
Keywords: PCSA attributes USE
Reply-To: lloyd@jeeves.engr.mun.ca
Organization: C-CAE, Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:46:54 GMT

Does anyone know if it is possible to change the ULTRIX file attributes
via some PCSA USE library function call? I need to change the permissions
of a file created by my program to group:rw. I can do this by logging in
and doing a chmod, but I would like my program to do this automatically.
I do not want to change the default permissions of pcsamgr to group:rw
for obvious reasons.
Perhaps I'm using an older version of the USE library? It's version 1.6.27?
Thanks,
Lloyd
--
Lloyd Little		Programmer Consultant CCAE
			Memorial University of NFLD. Canada
			(709) 737-3108
lloyd@femto.engr.mun.ca
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Allied Telesis Ether cards
From: SYSMGR@IPG.PH.KCL.AC.UK
Date: 27 Jan 1993 18:32:09 -0300 (BST)
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Via: uk.ac.kcl.ph.ipg; Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:33:50 +0000
Originally-to: CBS%UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY::EDU.MUOHIO.ACS.MIAMIU::LANWORKS
Originally-from: SYSMGR "Nigel"
Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989)

I have just received promotional literature on the Allied Telesis 1500 and
1700 PC Ether boards, together with a remarkably low price. Does anyone have
and experience to share of using these with Pathworks (esp. DECNET & DWDOS).
Even better, anything to share about Allied Telesis's attitude to Pathworks?
They claim full NDIS driver support, but then so did those @#$%^ NE clones....
 
        Yours,
                Nigel Arnot
 
                NRA%ipg.ph.kcl.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk   (internet)
                NRA%uk.ac.kcl.ph.ipg@ukacrl.bitnet        (bitnet)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: karcher@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu
Subject: VMS WP key map for SETHOST or KERMIT?
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 21 JAN 93 22:48:16 CST

Does anyone have a keyboard mapping file for SETHOST or MS-DOS KERMIT that will
map VMS wordperfect V5.1 keys to the same locations as PC Wordperfect?  VMS WP
supplied a SETHOST mapping file that was supposed to work with Pathworks V4.0
but doesn't work with V4.1. Thanks.


Carl Karcher                          Internet: KARCHER@WAISMAN.WISC.EDU
Waisman Center                        Bitnet:   KARCHER@WISCMACC
University of Wisconsin-Madison       PSTnet:   (608) 263-5896
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Problem with Mac LC and DECnet for Macintosh
From: Phil Rand <prand@PAUL.SPU.EDU>
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:06:04 -0800
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On Thu, 21 Jan 1993, Sherrie M. Kroll wrote:
 
> then ran NCP, defined the node, set the DECnet state to be ON at startup, and
> defined the node that I wanted to connect to.  When I rebooted, the system
> hung during the DECnet initialization.  Subsequent reboots had the same
> results.
 
Sherrie,
 
I hope you won't feel insulted by a dumb question, but did you check for
other DECnet nodes with the same node name as your Mac?
 
--Phil
 
// Phil Rand                                   prand@paul.spu.edu
// Computer & Information Systems                  (206) 281-2428
// Seattle Pacific University, 3307 3rd Ave W, Seattle, WA  98119
From: KRAMER_AG@RSO.DNET.GE.COM (Aaron K. --> (215) 354-4355, Building 100, Room 1339)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: LAT Service Table
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:34:04 GMT
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X-Cc: KRAMER_AG

Pathworks 4.x
 
Has anyone experienced the following: Unlike some terminal servers,
the pathworks lat service table is filled by services with different
ethernet addresses. Some terminal servers can offer a service as a
single entry, even when that service is offered by several hosts.
The pathworks lat service table fills up with multiple entries for the
same service, because it appears to differentiate based on ethernet
address, not service name. Is this a clear description?
 
I would like to see a service only one, thereby filling the service
table less often.
 
On a related note, it appears that there is a maximum of 256 entries
for the service table on Pathworks 3.x, when using the /D:256 switch
for LAT. Is there any way around this? We already use group codes to
decrease the number of services that are seen.
 
Aaron.
kramer_ag@rso.dnet.ge.com
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: conferencing software
From: arv7823@GGR.CO.UK
Date: 25 Jan 1993 10:09:00 +0000 (GMT)
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Via: uk.co.ggr; Mon, 25 Jan 1993 10:37:17 +0000

    Where can I get hold of the LATCOM program.  It looks like just what
    we need to provide access to a few "difficult" services.
 
        Alan Vos
        Desktop Support Group
        Glaxo Group Research
From: vaughan@sjh.org (Tom Vaughan)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: VT320 versus lk250 keyboard
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:35:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: St. Joseph Hospital, Cheektowaga, N.Y.

-- 
  I have a DEC 425 running windows 3.1 and pathworks 4.1.  The problem that
is driving me crazy is VT320 in windows fails to see the lk250 keyboard 
so that the function keys etc work correctly.  

  VT320 and windows have it as the keyboard.  The keyboard works fine in
sethost.

  Any ideas what is missing here?

Thanks,

  Tom

-- 
Internet: vaughan@sjh.ORG
UUCP    : ..!{ames!canisius,doh1c,sigmast,ub}!sjhvax!vaughan
SMSNET  : 40961::vaughan                
Where   : Tom Vaughan / Mgr. Comp. Ops./ St. Joseph Hospital /Cheektowaga N.Y.
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