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From: wb1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Matthew Beaver)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Caymans
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:04:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.UeqRdXu00WBNE44ud5
Organization: Senior, Social & Decision Sciences, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Anyone out there from the Caymans or know of an address of someone on
one of the islands?  I'm looking for some information about the islands
and would really like to hear it first hand.  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.  Please reply to wb1o@cmu.edu.

Thanks in advance!

William Beaver
From: garth@leo.irv.icl.com (Garth Armorer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:13:00 GMT
Organization: ICL Advanced Development Group, Irvine CA

In article <1992Oct2.164815.16637@ncsu.edu> erdogan@ecelk2.ncsu.edu (Ulvi Erdogan) writes:
>Yvonne Clarke from Montego Bay, Jamaica. Currently in Raleigh, North Carolina.

Yo O!
	Garth E. Armorer, Trinidad & Tobago.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: CMDONA00@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Christine Donahoe)
Subject: Derek Walcott
Organization: University of Kentucky
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:21:38 GMT

If you have access to a September/October 1991 issue of Caribbean Travel
and Life, it has a several page article in it about Mr. Walcott.  He
sounds like quite an interesting fellow!
 
Christine Donahoe
cmdona00@ukcc.uky.edu
University of Kentucky
332 Peterson Service Building
Lexington, KY  40506-0005
From: hstewar1@tolkien.helios.nd.edu (hemsley stewart)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Dynamics of our High Inflation (Jamaica)
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:55:44 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

To whoever posted that article (Mcbean?), Thanks for the effort.  However,
was all that economese supposed to be intlelligible?  Why must economists
couch relatively simple terms in such unabashed verbiage?
From: v117qh7z@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ivor G Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: making contact
Keywords: BROTHER
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:10:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


To:  Roy Seivwright of Florida State University.
     Hi, I have a brother that has just started attending your school  	 
     in the fall semester of this year, he is Jamaican and he is an
     Agriculture engineering major.  I don't know if he is a member
     in your CSA organization, but I would like if you can tell him
     (if you can contact him) that his brother in Buffalo would like
      to keep in contact with him through the computer vax system.
      Thanks in advance.

	IVOR REID
	ENGINEERING AND APPLIED SCIENCES
	SUNY AT BUFFALO 
	
P.S.   I try sending you e-mail directly but for some reason your userid
	does not seem right becuase I kept on getting error messages.
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Caribbean Food!
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 23:36:56 EDT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: soc.culture.caribbean
Distribution: world
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text

Hey all!

Tonight I went to the Caribbean Club and had Jerk Chicken, Rice & Peas,
and Corn Bread for supper.

I almost died of pleasure!

Anyways, I want to know how to cook all that!  I've got the recipe for
rice & peas, I've got the recipe for Jerk Pork -- can I just substitute
Chicken?

The Corn Bread was unbelievable!  Almost like pound cake...only better!
I've never tasted anything quite like it.

And *this* is the recipe I can't seem to find -- and want the most!

Any information would be appreciated!  Thanks all!

+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
| Steve Frampton - frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca | Steve Frampton     |
| I collect postcards!  If you send me one from | 501-A Princess St. |
| your area, I'll send one in return.  Send to >| Kingston, Ontario  |
| (Don't forget both email and mailing address) | CANADA   K7L 1C3   |
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: Anthony_Maillard@Mdd.comm.mot.com (Anthony Maillard)
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Followup-To: soc.culture.caribbean
Organization: Motorola
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:51:11 GMT



STEVE,  I DON'T THINK THAT YOU HAVE EVER TOLD US WHERE YOU ARE
FROM.........
COUGH IT UP.......................

Anthony Maillard - " Lost Trini..............."



In article <suy8RB2w165w@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca>, frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
(Steve Frampton) wrote:
> 
> perrault@a.chem.upenn.edu (Ange R. Perrault) writes:
> 
> >               This is so far a few of the names collected form the Net:
> > 
> > 
> >       Ange Ronel Perrault             Port-au-Prince, HAITI
> > 
> >       Marvin A. Titus                 St. Croix, Virgin Islands
> 
> [...etc...]
> 
> >       Ivan M. Bou                     Puerto Rico
> > 
> >       Vandoren P. Outten              Nassau, Bahamas
> 
> Ack!  This information is practically *useless*!  BUT -- throw in their
> e-mail address below their name, and you've got yourself a *great*
> database!
> 
> +-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
> | Steve Frampton - frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca | Steve Frampton     |
> | I collect postcards!  If you send me one from | 501-A Princess St. |
> | your area, I'll send one in return.  Send to >| Kingston, Ontario  |
> | (Don't forget both email and mailing address) | CANADA   K7L 1C3   |
> +-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Shabba's new album
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:47:49 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <60976@mimsy.umd.edu>, rfrance@umiacs.umd.edu (Robert B France) writes:
> In article <HDD8RB1w165w@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca writes:
>>robert@cse.fau.edu (Robert France) writes:
>>
>>> Has anyone heard the new album from Shabba? How does it compare with
>>> the `Raw ...' album (I only liked two tracks on that - the ones with 
>>> KRS-1 and Maxi Priest House Calls)?
>>
>>Ah weh it be call?  How we be makin' comparisons wit a kiss-me-arse
>>no-name album?  :-)
> 
> Man, fuh life me can't recall de name!

Rough and Ready Vol 1....

> 
> Robert


McBean
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: jasammer@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN ASHLEY SAMMERSON)
Subject: RE: Nobel Prize
Originator: jasammer@c00365-247dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jasammer@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN ASHLEY SAMMERSON)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:30:44 GMT



   I've been so overwhelmed with wok, I don't even know what de hell 
has been going on in dis world. Ah goin' BAZODEE(QE. gaga)! Dis is 
real nice tuh hear man... Dat is 2 sets of good news in 2 weeks....
Walcott get de ting....As some of you may recall, I saw him at Duke 
just last semester and chatted with him an' ting. Ah tell yuh.....
little did I know that within a few months.... From what I saw, he
seemed like a pleasant chap...still very much in touch with the 
livelihood of the caribbean. As someone rightly pointed out; though 
he did spend quite some time in Trinidad, he is St. Lucian. If my 
(fading) memory serves me correctly, he founded the Little Carib Theatre 
in Trinidad. It's good to see positive images from the caribbean still
being recognized. Congrats to de man!!!

   Ah Gone!


John S.
100% Trini
Children must learn from de time dat dey young
  De difference between right and wrong
Not knowing better dey bound to get burn
  So make sure yuh children learn...
                        Sparrow
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From: rfrance@umiacs.umd.edu (Robert B France)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: nobel prize
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:24:25 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

In article <1992Oct9.152739.21402@news.nd.edu> hstewar1@purcell.helios.nd.edu (hemsley stewart) writes:
>
>>Thank god it was Derek Walcott and not V.S. Naipaul who got the
>>price. I must say, Naipaul has weathered down with old age. :)
>>
>>Jule
>
>likes it or not), he is one of us.  And anyone who likes literature cannot
>deny his immense talent and stature.

Personally I like Naipaul's work. I do not know anything of his personal life
though. Why is he unpopular to some?

Robert France
From: jsd@crunch.Eng.Sun.COM (Jules Damji)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: nobel prize
Summary: reply
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:11:56 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: crunch

In article <1992Oct9.152739.21402@news.nd.edu>, hstewar1@purcell.helios.nd.edu (hemsley stewart) writes:
> Whatever happened to Naipaul's Nobel Prize prospects.  I remember that in themiddle eighties he was a strong favourite for the prize.  I have never liked V.S. but I still hoped he would get the prize.  It would have been interesting to see the Caribbean r> 
> eaction, because, like it or not (whether Naipaul
> likes it or not), he is one of us.  And anyone who likes literature cannot
> deny his immense talent and stature.

V.S. Naipaul was nominated for the noble prize, I believe in the early 80's, and lost to some
balkan writer (perhaps Havel of Czech or Milan Kundera -- I could be wrong).

Certainly no one can deny his immense talent and power of observation, his profound insight
into human character, and his proflic works. I have admired Naipaul (and followed
his works) since I was first introduced to him in 0' levels. His early works -- Miguel
Street, Mystic Messuir, A house for Mr. Biswas -- were comical and delight to read.
After their publication and fame, he claimed himself as a comical writer. But something
went wrong after that; he has het to write another comical novel. I guess he "lost his sense 
of humour" as Salman Rushdie put it once along the way.

His search for his "identity" overcame him, and he took to travelling, observing inscrutably
the imperfection among the people and in the countries he travelled; he became obsessed with
the word "rage". And invariably "rage" appears in each and every travel writing of his. 

As some netter asked why is he so unpopular? I suppose his writing reflect or point out
vividly and truthfully his observations. And as a reader, if you're indeed, one of the
observed, one of the ants under the Naipaul's thoushand microscopic eyes, his acerbic
writing can get to you. :) Often "truth" is hard to digest, especially written by someone
from the inside looking from the outside.


Jules


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: plm@reggae.bellcore.com (Paul L. Mowatt)
Subject: Re: Songs of Freedom/Time will Tell
Organization: Bellcore - Bell Communications Research
Distribution: soc
Date: 9 Oct 92 09:36:52
Followup-To: soc.culture.caribbean

>>>>> On 9 Oct 92 02:17:08 GMT, ggeorge@acs.bu.edu (Gerry George) said:
> Originator: ggeorge@acs.bu.edu


> In article <PLM.92Oct6134617@reggae.cam>, plm@reggae.cam (Paul L. Mowatt) writes:
> |> I went out during lunch today to get my copy of the Bob Marley's "Songs of
> |> Freedom".  I'm listening to it right now.  Can't get the full effect since
> |> I'm listening through some MIDI speakers (not enough bass).  The package is 

> How much is it going for?  and where is it typically available - 
> definitely NOT mainstream record stores?

Yes it is available at mainstream record stores, atleast in the tri-state 
area.  I got my copy at the WIZ in New Jersey.  It's also available at 
Tower Records in NYC.  It is limited edition so I don't know how wide the 
distribution is. Maybe it depends on reggae buying trends in the area.
The package goes for a introductory price of $40,  which is good consider
you get 4 CDs with a total of 75 songs.

> Gerry George
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From: jsd@crunch.Eng.Sun.COM (Jules Damji)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: nobel prize
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:07:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: crunch

In article <1992Oct14.161515.14466@news.nd.edu>, hstewar1@tolkien.helios.nd.edu (hemsley stewart) writes:
> 
> Thank you.  I couldn't have put this better myself; or even as well for that matter.  You have captured exactly what makes Naipaul so important in West Indian literature.  That savage humour coupled with exquisite insight is his unique legacy.  I still do> 
> n't like him personally, because I think he betrays an attitude of contempt that I don't think is necessary.  But then, maybe he wouldn't have been quite so powerful a literary presence.  In spite of my reservations about him, I would be willing to defend> 
> to the death, his right to Nobel Prize recognition.  He is (or was) a tremendous talent.

Personally, I believe the Nobel Prize recognition, especially in
literature, should be given to people not only because of their
nobility and intelligence, or because of their unique talent and
their prodigious works. But also because of their compassion for 
human being; because of their committment to a cause; and because
of their universally inspirational, comical and imaginative literary 
works.

Nobody can question Naipaul's literary and unique talent; nor his 
perception of people of half-made worlds and half-made countries, 
much of it reflected in his travel works. Reading his works leaves
one exhausted and angry, certainly not inspired; his contempt for 
anyone not like him is infectious and establishes a love-hate 
relationship between a reader of his works and the author,
certainly not compassion. And about the only work where Naipaul
examplifies universal appeal in human character, and succeeds
in deriving genuine laughter and sympathy -- not deriding laughter
-- from his readers is in his early three novels, of which the
"A House of Mr. Biswas" is a classic and a masterpiece. Had
he continued on his early path, that of a comical writer, V.S
Naipaul would have been a Nobel literary laureate today.

The rest of his works -- both novels and travelogue, with an
exception of a historical piece, "The loss of Eldorado" --
are nothing but "see how bad you guys down there are; see
what mess you have created for yourself; and why can't you
be like me (or us -- the west)". Had this been a prize for
social and political psychology, perhaps he would deserve it;
certainly not for literature.


Jules


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From: simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Shabba's new album
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:58:00 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <60976@mimsy.umd.edu> rfrance@umiacs.umd.edu (Robert B France) writes:
>In article <HDD8RB1w165w@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca> frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca writes:
>>robert@cse.fau.edu (Robert France) writes:
>>
>>> Has anyone heard the new album from Shabba? How does it compare with
>>> the `Raw ...' album (I only liked two tracks on that - the ones with 
>>> KRS-1 and Maxi Priest House Calls)?
>>
>>Ah weh it be call?  How we be makin' comparisons wit a kiss-me-arse
>>no-name album?  :-)
>
>Man, fuh life me can't recall de name!
>
>Robert


	X-tra Naked...also check out Mad Cobra's new album (he's also on a 
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: RE:People of the Caribbean
From: <MISHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Saturday, 10 Oct 1992 11:32:23 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

Hello to the lovely people of the caribbean.

              Michelle Stewart(Perdmontemps St.Davids GRENADA)

                                 Peace from the spice Lady!!
Xref: sparky soc.culture.caribbean:1505 rec.music.afro-latin:641
From: ggeorge@acs.bu.edu (Gerry George)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean,rec.music.afro-latin
Subject: Re: Songs of Freedom/Time will Tell
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:17:08 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.caribbean
Distribution: soc
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: ggeorge@acs.bu.edu


In article <PLM.92Oct6134617@reggae.cam>, plm@reggae.cam (Paul L. Mowatt) writes:
|> I went out during lunch today to get my copy of the Bob Marley's "Songs of
|> Freedom".  I'm listening to it right now.  Can't get the full effect since
|> I'm listening through some MIDI speakers (not enough bass).  The package is 
|> very impressive.  Of course the music is excellent.  It contains most of the
|> 12" versions which I could not seem to find anywhere.  It also contains some
|> previously unreleased material and alternate versions of some favorites.
|> 
|> The package contains 4 CD's each one has a different portrait of Bob through
|> the years.  A cassete version is also available.  Included is a 62 page 
|> booklet containing historical data and commentary on songs in the set.
|> 
|> So if your want to get the Bob Marley story wrapped up in one neat package
|> try to get your hands on this CD set (whether you're baldhead or dreadlocks!
|> :->).
|> 
|> I also got a copy of the "Time will Tell" video.  This is another excellent
|> product.  The narrator is Bob himself.  Brought back for a special appearance
|> through the marvel of technology.
|> --
How much is it going for?  and where is it typically available - definitely NOT mainstream record stores?

Gerry George
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 06:55:15 EDT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: soc.culture.caribbean
Distribution: world
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text

perrault@a.chem.upenn.edu (Ange R. Perrault) writes:

>               This is so far a few of the names collected form the Net:
> 
> 
>       Ange Ronel Perrault             Port-au-Prince, HAITI
> 
>       Marvin A. Titus                 St. Croix, Virgin Islands

[...etc...]

>       Ivan M. Bou                     Puerto Rico
> 
>       Vandoren P. Outten              Nassau, Bahamas

Ack!  This information is practically *useless*!  BUT -- throw in their
e-mail address below their name, and you've got yourself a *great*
database!

+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
| Steve Frampton - frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca | Steve Frampton     |
| I collect postcards!  If you send me one from | 501-A Princess St. |
| your area, I'll send one in return.  Send to >| Kingston, Ontario  |
| (Don't forget both email and mailing address) | CANADA   K7L 1C3   |
+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
From: robert@cse.fau.edu (Robert France)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: nobel prize
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:37:29 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

Just heard on the CNN headline news that Trinidadian Dereck Walcott was
awarded the nobel prize for literature. Can anyone post some background
on Walcott?

This news made my day, to say the least!

Robert
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: Brian.Vaughan@um.cc.umich.edu (Brian Vaughan)
Subject: Re: PEOPLE FROM THE CARIBBEAN
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 13:48:23 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan
Keywords: Born & Raised Trinidadian!

In article <1992Oct9.051656.23427@ncsu.edu> jasammer@eos.ncsu.edu (JOHN ASHLEY SAMMERSON) writes:
>    John Sammerson - Diego Martin, Trinidad

> ...and dat's where I'll be in a couple of months!!!!

Both a we, breds!!!!  We go bounce again in Pellos
>   
>John S.
>100% Trini
>Trinidad is nice
>  Trinidad is a paradise...
>            - Bro. Valentino
>-- 

Brian Vaughan
brian_vaughan@um.cc.umich.edu

115% Trinidadian   (VAT included)


                    -= A closed mouth gathers no foot =-
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:22:11 EDT
From: Howard E. Hill-Esbrand <HH9679A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: Guyana Elections
 <RAJ.92Oct8105547@sunland.gsfc.nasa.gov>

What you drinking high wine(overproof rum) or 5 year old ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: hstewar1@purcell.helios.nd.edu (hemsley stewart)
Subject: Re: DREAD LOCKS PART 2
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:01:23 GMT

>How many people (even J'cans) let alone Americans actually know that Marcus Garvey was from Jamaica.  I actually found out that he was very visible in the US years after I had first heard of him - but then, I grew up in the Caribbean, with reggae, etc, and the 70's era was an era of protest and Rasta.

Yo brother, any Jamaican who does not know a fair amount about Garvey might as well not regard himself as Jamaican.  Well actually that was rather harsh. But Garvey is one of our National Heros, which in Jamaica means that if you even only spend a couple of years there, you will receive quite detailed accounts of his life and work. 
Rastas have often been known to refer to Garvey as a Prophet, because he happened to share their "Back to Africa" beliefs, and preached what nowadays would be called Black Empowerment (if we ignore too specific definitions of this term).  
I find it hard to believe that anyone could have grown up in the English-speaking Caribbean without knowing a bit about Garvey.  But I concede I may be demonstrating a bit of arrogance.  If I am, I apologize...