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From: Danny Thomas <vthrc@mailbox.uq.oz.au>
Subject: Re: No zones in Messages
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A76E5358DA010416@ethernet_mac2.vthrc.uq.oz.au>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 4 Jan 93 04:49:28 GMT
Organization: Vision, Touch & Hearing
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:08:02 GMT

Subject: No zones in Messages
From: Simon Hayman, simon@archsci.arch.su.edu.au
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:15:17 GMT
In article <simon-040193111456@archmac-169.arch.su.edu.au> Simon Hayman,
simon@archsci.arch.su.edu.au writes:
>Help! I appear to have lost the appletalk zones in Messages (the DA
>V0.9/cdev V1.0 Message System from the Uni of Melbourne) hence making it
>useless. Am running System 7.0.1 on ClassicII with inumerable, normally
>stable, cdevs, etc. Has this nice little utility come to the end of its
>life?
seems to work OK for me on a IIvx, System 7.1. Mind you this machine only
recently arrived and Messages was one thing I hadn't properly installed
and your article prompted me to spend the 10 minutes or so. I couldn't
find my original copy so snarfed it from munnari and extracted the
Control Panel from the shar file.  NB this Control Panel was version 1.6
and the DA dated  Jun 26, 1990 so it's probably worth trying these.

cheers,
Danny Thomas
Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: ssuther@brahma.trl.OZ.AU (S. Sutherland)
Subject: Info-mac archives at archie.au behind - why?
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:30:26 GMT

I've noticed that the info-mac shadow at archie.au is somewhat behind
the sumex-aim archive, and the most recent file in the recent-files help
file is dated 21 Dec 92.  What gives?

Scott.
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Newsgroups: aus.mac
From: steve@iron.curtin.edu.au (Steve Maddocks)
Subject: Re: Internet Mail to AppleLink
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 08:45:03 GMT

colinr@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Colin Rose) writes:

>I realise this must be a FAQ. Nevertheless...
>Does anyone recall how to send email to Applelink
>from the internet.

AppleLink-username@applelink.apple.com

Eg AUST0176@applelink.apple.com

Gotcha: I believe AppleLink charge for this gateway service and so some
AppleLink users elect NOT to make use of it. From memory, messages to an
AppleLink user NOT subscribed to the Internet gateway, are put in the trash
can, no bounce, no nothing.
________________________________________________
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Computing Centre   Tel:(09)351-2675 Fax:351-2673
Curtin University       Perth, Western Australia
From: matt.jeffries@insane.apana.org.au (Matt Jeffries)
Sender: FredMail@insane.apana.org.au
Newsgroups: aus.mac
Subject: network printing
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 10:45:02

I have a specialised printer problem that needs solving.
In my work we run a localtalk network with our own zone and via a 
router using an ISDN line are connected to six other zones. 
The problem is that we can see the computers in the other zones and 
connect to them but we cannot see the printers in the other zones. I 
want to be able to print documents in zones other than my own. The 
people in the other zones cannot see our printers either.
The other zones run AppleShare Servers and we do not. Is this the 
problem? Do we need a print server as well?
Is it to do with the router not configured properly, or the ISDN 
line?
This problem has been plaguing us for ages and since the zones in 
our network are 200kms apart it would be an advantage to be able to 
print to each other instead of using couriers and faxes for large 
documents that need hard copies to be delivered.
Can anyone help?
Has anyone else got a similar problem, or found a solution to the 
same problem?
I'd really appreciate some help/advice, solution(s) as my boss is 
getting annoyed with it.
Thanks in advance for any contributions.
Matt Jeffries
Reply Fidonet 3:670/301
and/or internet matt.jeffries@insane.apana.org.au
Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc
From: jamie@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Jamie Scuglia)
Subject: CHART: Top 10 singles -> The U.K.
Originator: jamie@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: General Access UNIX group, Monash Uni, Clayton, Vic.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:43:10 GMT


            /=============================================\
           || The TOP 10 SINGLES in the U.K.              ||
           || For the week ending: Friday 8th JANUARY '93 ||
 __________|/=============================================\|__________
/                                                                     \
1.       I WILL ALWAYS LOVE YOU - Whitney Houston
2.       HEAL THE WORLD - Michael Jackson
3.       COULD IT BE MAGIC - Take That
4.       PHOREVER PEOPLE - the Shamen
5.       WOULD I LIE TO YOU - Charles & Eddie
6.       MEGAMIX - Boney M
7.       MIAMI HIT MIX - Gloria Estefan
8.       SOMEDAY (I'M COMING BACK) - Lisa Stansfield
9.       SLAM JAM - W.W.F.  Superstars
10.      DRIFT AWAY - Michael Bolton
----------------------------------------------------------------------
* Denotes Australian/New Zealand Artist
( ) Denotes CHART POSITION last week.
NEW - Indicates single new to top 10.
Chart supplied by OUR PRICE MUSIC (U.K.)
\____________________________________________________________________/

These singles were in the top 10 last week:

    /===============================================================\
   ||  These singles dropped out over the Xmas break:               ||
   ||  6.  TOM TRAUBERT'S BLUES (WALTZING MATILDA) - Rod Stewart    ||
   ||  7.  I STILL BELIEVE IN YOU - Cliff Richard                   ||
   ||  8.  TEMPTATION - Heaven 17                                   ||
   ||  9.  OUT OF SPACE - The Prodigy                               ||
   ||  10. WHO'S GONNA RIDE YOUR WILD HORSES - U2                   ||
    \===============================================================/ 

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From: sking@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au (Stephen Mark King)
Subject: Concerts in Melbourne
Organization: University of Tasmania at Launceston
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 03:14:50 GMT


I'll will be in Melbourne over the week-end and I was wondering if 
the MSO have a "Concert in the Park" scheduled.

Could someone also let me know if there are any other concerts which 
might be worth going to.  Any concert to do with brass, especially 
trombone (bass trombone is even better !!) would be a bonus.

Thanks,
		Steve.
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson)
Subject: Re: B-B-B-B-Beatbox
Keywords: 1986 Westies
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:17:40 GMT

brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
>As a recent oz resident I must say that it was very interesting to see
>that snippet of pop culture from the 80's. One thing I noticed from the 
>videos they showed was which bands were 'up front' at the time of "B-B-B..."
>and still are now.

And next weekend according to 2JJJ we will be treated to the best & worst of
Countdown {with Molly Meldrum} (again similcast with JJJ).
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: derbyc@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Derby Chang)
Subject: Wizards of Oz video
Originator: derbyc@sydrd14
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 02:43:47 GMT



Has anyone had a look at the video of the Wizards of Oz
tour in LA last year?  I wonder if its worthwhile
getting.  Usually they release a album with these sort
of things, but I couldn't see one advertised.


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From: brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Results: 1992 best Australian release poll
Date: 5 Jan 93 06:02:48 GMT

in article <1992Dec30.235928.4464@mel.dit.csiro.au>, brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) says:
> "WHAT KIND OF FOOL"		CD5	Kylie Minogue			1

Can we guess who voted for this?? :-)

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: Joys and Clouds @ Easts Leagues 2/1/93
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 06:06:02 GMT


In article <7040@otc.otca.oz>, brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones) writes:
|> A brief review of the Falling Joys and Clouds show at Easts Leagues Club last
|> Saturday night.

|> The main problem was the crowd.  Sedate would be an understatement.  My wife
|> was really getting into the Joys, and people just stood around her wondering
|> what she was doing.  Most stood motionless!  Maybe it was all the

The Melbourne disease methinks....

[on Clouds]

|> All in all, a very tight and polished performance, but darned it, something
|> seemed to be missing.  I reckon it was more the audience than the Clouds
|> themselves.  New Years' hangover?

Maybe the band have just played too much? All polish & no feeling (ho
hum - another sell out gig.....) Shame when that happens eh?

brian
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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: rjh@pixel.maths.monash (Plagued By Penguins)
Subject: Re: Joys and Clouds @ Easts Leagues 2/1/93
Originator: rjh@fermat.maths.monash.edu.au
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:41:17 GMT

brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
>In article <7040@otc.otca.oz>, brendan@otc.otca.oz (Brendan Jones) writes:
  [ Re: Falling Joys ]
>|> The main problem was the crowd.  Sedate would be an understatement.  My wife
>|> was really getting into the Joys, and people just stood around her wondering
>|> what she was doing.  Most stood motionless!  Maybe it was all the
>The Melbourne disease methinks....

Yeah could be. On the other hand I thought the Falling Joys have turned
into a moderately pathetic wannabe metal band. No good tunes like on
the Omega EP at all. I was dissapointed with them once again.

>|> All in all, a very tight and polished performance, but darned it, something
>|> seemed to be missing.  I reckon it was more the audience than the Clouds
>Maybe the band have just played too much? All polish & no feeling (ho
>hum - another sell out gig.....) Shame when that happens eh?

I thought the Clouds were impressive. They were enjoying themselves and
so were the crowd. I can't vouch for how Sydney audiences usually react
(I'm a Melbournian interloper) but they seemed ok to me. Despite being
dragged along to the gig, I enjoyed the Clouds once again.

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: aa593@Freenet.carleton.ca (Iain Pidcock)
Subject: Johnny Diesel and the Injectors
Reply-To: aa593@Freenet.carleton.ca (Iain Pidcock)
Organization: The National Capital Freenet
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:44:45 GMT


Can anyone tell me what Johnny Diesel and the Injectors are up to
these days?  Are they still together?  I have the first album
which I managed to find here in Canada but have since been
unable to locate any new stuff if any.  I saw them in Canberra
in '89 when I lived in Australia (for a year) and was impressed- with Austr
alian music scene in general.. Who are the big bands down there
these days.  Is Kylie Minogue (Barf) or that other ex. Neighbour
still pretending to have talent?  Is Neighbours still on the air?
What is Jimmy Barnes up to these days?  I never here his stuff
up here.  Please, someone fill me in.  I am tired of listening to
Bryan Adams...
            The Canadian Music scene is improving but
            still needs a lot of work...
 

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: 2 new EPs from Melb bands
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 01:15:09 GMT


More 'news'

2 Melbourne bands will be releasing their almost debut EPs soon

The Mavis': Tribal indie pop band who used to live in Ballarat (coldest
            city in Aust mainland?) but now live in Melb. They've had a 
            7" single out before & have been on most of the Giggle records
            "Screaming At The Mirror" compilations.
            I've heard some of it - sounds pretty good.

Hurdy Gurdy:They call themselves "cartoon fuzz pop". I like to think they're
            more influenced by the Breeders than anything else. They've
            a good sense of humour & mix that with their Breeders/tongue
            in cheek R&R sounds. They've had a track on the Nu-Music sampler
            no.5 (sigh - they could have spent their money _much_ better than
            that!)

Both these bands, plus the guttersnipes, tlot tlot, dangersharks, 
mustard seeds, nude rain, and others (forgot!) will be appearing on a live
compilation CD from the Empress Of India hotel in Fitzroy, melb (much like
the Big Hope, Little Town CD from the Hopetoun in Syd).

I'll post more on that later...........

brian
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From: jamie@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Jamie Scuglia)
Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc
Subject: CHART: Australia: 10 biggest selling albums -> 1992
Date: 9 Jan 1993 18:15:01 +1100
Organization: General Access UNIX Group, Monash Uni, Clayton, Vic.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: zikzak.apana.org.au

                  /=======================================\
                 || The Australian Top 10 albums of 1992  ||
 ________________|/=======================================\|________________
/                                                                           \
1.   JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR - The 1992 Australian Cast *
2.   THE BABY ANIMALS - The Baby Animals  *
3.   SOUL DEEP - Jimmy Barnes *
4.   HEPFIDELITY - Diesel *
5.   BLOOD SUGAR SEX MAGIK - Red Hot Chili Peppers  
6.   BACK TO FRONT - Lionel Richie 
7.   GREATEST HITS 1966-1992 - Neil Diamond 
8.   PERFORMS LLOYD WEBBER - Michael Crawford
9.   SOME GAVE ALL - Billy Ray Cyrus 
10.  THE COMMITMENTS - The Commitments
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Denotes Australian Artist
Chart supplied by A.R.I.A.
\____________________________________________________________________________/

Great to see that the 4 biggest selling albums of 1992
were from Aussies!  Well done guys!

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: schuller@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Wayne Schuller)
Subject: Where can i get these cd's? (in melb pref)
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:23:47 GMT

Hi there netters,

Where can I buy these cd's? new or second hand....

	Kylie- Give me just a little more time- cd single.
		I like it like that cd single? (its a b-side 2 sumting)		
	Prince- Cream Cd single.
		Cream the remixes (<$15)
	Julee Cruises first album.
	any harry connick Jr cd's cheap.
	and a cd with the song titled 'to sir with love' by lulu (?). it
	can be on a various artists cd or whatever, but i have been unable
	to find it...

Does anyone know where i can get these cd's for a good price. a couple are 
available full price, but i am poor. :(
reply by email thanks.

thanks friends.
schuller

Newsgroups: aus.music
From: dorset@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Mark Dorset)
Subject: Re: Why Has JJJ Been so Crap Lately?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:31:35 GMT

harold@cs.uq.oz.au (Andrew Wood) writes:

>I put it down to that fact that they have become a giant request show
>for the summer -- what you are listening to is what some people actually
>phone in and tell them they want to hear!
>Some peole do the strangest things...

Uh huh makes you wonder what kinda of audience JJJ really has... For all the
Cure/New Order/REM/Joy Division/Etc type groups in their Hot 100 you'd think
audience requests wouldnt be chocka-bloc with Barry Manilow and Tom Jones.
8-)


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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: lightw@cetra.trl.OZ.AU (Liron Lightwood)
Subject: UK Chart Attack Off again in Melbourne
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 07:06:15 GMT

This is chapter three of the exiting story of the off-again, on-again, and
off-again saga of UK Chart Attack on Melbourne's FOX FM.

P.S.  What's the story on 2DAY FM in Sydney?

In Chapter 1, an episode of UK Chart Attack (December 13) had almost half an hour 
ripped out of it, and the week after that (December 20), there was no episode at 
all.  FOX FM said that the first episode was cut short because their CD copy was 
faulty, and the second one was held up in customs, and that, no, the show wasn't 
about to be axed.   Although the author of Chapter 1 (That's me) was unwilling to 
jump to conclusions, he had his suspicions about this last one.

In Chapter 2, UK Chart Attack came back on the air for another two
episides (December 27 & January 3).  I said I'd keep you posted.  
And now...

CHAPTER THREE

This week (January 11), UK Chart attack went off the air again!   This time, 
it looks like being axed permanently, or at least for the forseeable future.

What really annoys me about FOX's axing of the show and the circumstances
that surround it, is:

i) That FOX didn't do more for their listeners, like make a sincere
apology for not being able to bring the missing/cut shows to air, as
would happen on TV if the same thing happened there.  There wasn't
any apology of any kind, as if nobody would notice the show's absence.

ii) That 2DAY FM Sydney may have aired these missing/cut down shows, but FOX
didn't do more to get a copy from them.  Of course, if Sydney also missed
out on these shows, that's another story.  Did they?

These circumstances, regardless of whose fault they are, make it appear as if
FOX don't care as much for their listeners, even if they really do care.

iii)
And finally, I liked UK Chart Attack!  If I was in virtually any other major city 
in any other country in the western world, I could just turn on the radio, and 
hear lots of this kind of music most of the day, any day of the week.  But in 
Melbourne, UK Chart Attack, along with American Top 40, is one of the only ways 
of getting to hear fresh mainstream pop music on the radio.  Yes, there is "Far 
and Wide" on RRR, but this is more about alternative music.


Please bring back UK Chart Attack!

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: wadley@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Gregory Robert Wadley)
Subject: book title sounds like band name
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:48:51 GMT

There's a book in the library called "Guns and Brooches"
("Australian Army nurses from the Boer War to the Gulf War")

Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc
From: jamie@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Jamie Scuglia)
Subject: CHART: Top 10 albums -> Australia.
Originator: jamie@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
Organization: General Access UNIX Group, Monash Uni, Clayton, Vic.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:42:40 GMT

            /=============================================\
           || The TOP 10 AUSTRALIAN ALBUMS CHART.         ||
           || For the THREE weeks ending: Friday 8th JAN. ||
 __________|/=============================================\|___________
/                                                                      \
1.  ( 3) STILL THE 12th MAN - The Twelfth Man *
2.  (10) TIMELESS (THE CLASSICS) - Michael Bolton 
3.  ( 1) ABBA GOLD (GREATEST HITS) - ABBA 
4. (R/E) UNPLUGGED - Eric Clapton
5. (NEW) THE BODYGUARD - Movie Soundtrack
6.  ( 7) MARVIN THE ALBUM - Frente * 
7.  ( 5) THE ESSENTIAL COLLECTION - Joe Cocker
8. (R/E) COOOLEYHIGHHARMONEY - Boyz II Men  
9.  ( 2) GLITTERING PRIZE 81-92 - Simple Minds  
10. ( 8) USE YOUR ILLUSION I - Guns 'N' Roses  
------------------------------------------------------------------------
* Denotes Australian/New Zealand Artist
( ) Denotes chart position last week
NEW - Indicates album new to top 10
Chart supplied by the AUSTRALIAN RECORDING INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION (ARIA)
\______________________________________________________________________/

These albums were in the top 10 last week:

     /=============================================================\
    ||  4.  LIVE (DOUBLE ALBUM) - AC/DC *                          ||
    ||  6.  LILY - Wendy Matthews *                                ||
    ||  9.  USE YOUR ILLUSION II - Guns 'N' Roses                  ||
     \=============================================================/

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