HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:35:38 GMT

mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton) writes:

>There has been much interesting discussion over what a proper movie to view
>while under the influence of one of the more notorius molecules known to 
>civilization, but my tastes run deeper than most people who are into the
>vegetable impersonations while tripping.

>I love to bike (!), run, walk, crawl, or do basically anything which requires
>movement, because it seems that during these moments -- which I may almost deem apocalyptic in hindsight -- that I become aware of the incredible neural 
>functions required for motor skill and coordination.





>But what is better ten fold in comparison to watching a movie, is to put on
>decent tunes (no overplayed stuff at MY house - no floyd (unless obscure), no
>marley, no morrison, no doors) and then visualize my OWN movies.


>Many people would ask (and it is a good question) why I reject the staples of
>my aural diet while under the influence of delta-9-THC, and the answer is that
>when tripping, it is best to always look for something new.

>Old songs also can dredge up bad (or good) memories of times you've had when
>listening to said tune.  Can be unpredictable.

>NOW, it's your turn to talk.  Tell me what your personal favorite music is
>when (IF) you are (WERE) tripping!

> 
>-- 
>send flames, comments, questions, pap smear results, $10,000 in small bills, and
>a large packet of neurotransmitter precursors to :  mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu
>=====->Legalize Spiritual Discovery and Powerful Oxyhematoporphyrin Tools<-=====                 ...have you hugged an Ischiopagus lately?

Well, a couple weekends ago a FOAF;)  was shrooming, and My life With the 
Thrill Kill Kult was playing. It was ok, until the part that goes
"Freaked out very very badly" came on. that part seemed to loop through
this poor fellows head until exactly that happened.
If I were to listen to musik, by far my choice would be PigfacE, because
they play under that very condition(LSD) live, so This weekend, a FOAF will
hopefully see how the musik is Really meant to be interpreted....
coprophiliac

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bt26+@andrew.cmu.edu (Bartley R. Troyan)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Cloves
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:45:22 GMT
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I'm looking for info on the active ingredients in clove cigarettes. I've
smoked cloves a couple of times, and noticed a slight buzz, though less than
that from a regular tobacco cigarette. Is this a placebo effect, or is there
really an active ingredient?
Thanks
Bart
From: Sean.P.Donahue@dartmouth.edu (Sean P. Donahue)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: RFD?:: talk.psychedelic (was Re: RFD?: alt.drugs.lsd)
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:47:50 GMT
 <Bxy7y7.Eyw@unix.amherst.edu>  
 <1992Nov20.041307.28814@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

definintely a good idea ! i'd also like to see the group include
discussions of psychedellic art, music, literature, etc.


Sean Donahue
(sean.p.donahue@dartmoth.edu)

"We must go out of our minds in order to use our heads."
-T.Leary
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Poppers
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 02:45:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.192758.5147@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de> ET_SWARZ@rzmain.rz.
ni-ulm.de (Schwarz Ulrich      ) writes:
>In <1992Nov22.142205.30865@ux1.cts.eiu.edu> cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu writes

>
>> In article <Qf3iCiu00WB68RxKUO@andrew.cmu.edu> Seth Malcolm Redmore <s
2s+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>> >
>> >I was under the impression that poppers were nitrites, not
>> >nitrates.
>> >
>> >Am I deluded?  Have I been lied to?  Am I just too tired of trying
>> >to stick a Rhodium in my ligand that I am hallucinating and
>> >dreaming all of this?
>> 
>>     I don't know.  If someone has told you that poppers are nitrates a
d
>> not nitrites, yes.  Could be.
>> 
>poppers simply contain isobutylNITRITES.

Isobutyl and isoamyl nitrites, both are common. N-butyl nitrite causes
nastier headaches...

St. Anthony


--
          / N \   O         Laszt uns're Seelen vom Schimmel befreien!
         |   \ |  || Ph     Laszt uns're Schaedel vom Pilzbewuchs befreien!
         |   | |_O-C-C-OH     Im Aas sielen! (correct my German!)
          \ / /      Ph               aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: LILMARA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Martin Lilly)
Subject: Re: MJ sickness
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 15:12:15 EST

In article <1992Nov21.183640.23527@mail.cornell.edu>
Jeremy Matz <ILMJ@cornella.cit.cornell.edu> writes:
 
>I have had two friends who each passed out after taking just one hit off
>my old bong.  The first friend had spent the week previous studying and
 
(stuff deleted)
 
>later)  he was okay.  My second friend took a hit off the same bong about
>a year later, then ran down two flights of stair s to his car and back
 
(more stuff deleted)
 
I think it's clear that selective breeding has increased the potency of
cannabis dramatically. Two of my friends have also passed out, while using
some exquisite Dutch strains.
 
Cannabis has a pretty innocuous reputation that's well deserved. However, I
think it's important that users are aware of potentially dangerous responses
to _very_ strong weed, especially with unacclimated or unexperienced people.
 
The Bush administration has vilified these new strains because of their
potency. My experience has been that once you're familiar with them, the main
difference between standard and potent strains is the amount of pot you smoke.
Personally, I'd much rather smoke 2 bong hits of beautiful, tasty Haze/NL5
than rape my lungs with 12 hits of shitweed any day.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: guido@island.COM (Guido Marx)
Subject: Re: Is WOSD being won?
Organization: Island Graphics Corp.  San Rafael, Ca.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:03:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.041958.21190@u.washington.edu> lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
>>> Marijuana use is at its lowest points since 1972.
>
>Not surprising.  The population is aging QED there should be less
>marijuana users.

Actually, I don't think the increase in the age of our population is
the cause of the decrease in marijuana use.  In fact, this decrease
in marijuana use is about the only "bright spot" in the war on drugs.
The government has been quite efficient in reducing the street supply
of marijuana, thus drastically increasing its price (around here, I
understand that good bud goes for $800/oz.).  Of course, people have
quit using pot and switched to alcohol, crack, and heroin.  Isn't
that terrific !!?

>>> We're winning, folks, despite the propaganda of people like Nemeth.
>
>Look at the propaganda spewing from your own source first.

If Bennet really believes this crap, I think that we should give
him a drug test - he obviously is taking some very strong 
hallucinagen.

Guido
From: honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Physiological Effects of LSD
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:26:05 GMT
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Distribution: alt.drugs
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren


 mjcrouch@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Matt J. Crouch) writes:
>In article <BxrKK7.AIz@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> obradovi@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (Zo Obradovic) writes:
>>Can anyone tell me what the physiological effects of LSD are, apart from
>LSD is the most powerful hallucinogenic drug known to man.  It takes
>only doses as little as 10  micrograms to be effective.  You were
>correct about the serotonin.  It is the inhibitor substance (it could be
>a protein or hormone) in our brain.  In a normal state of conciousness,
>we typically use only 10% of our brainpower at any given moment.  When
>LSD enters the central nervous system, the chemical
>(d-lysergic acid diethylamide), LSD-25, attactes to the serotonin,
>causing the natural resistance to be reduced.  In turn, this causes the
>electrical current flowing between the neurons to run with far less
>resistance.  If you think of your CNS as an engine, LSD could be thought
>of as an octane boost.  It fires more often, with greater effenciency.
>Note:  This is a very simplified explaination of what goes on.  To
>further understand the drug, i recommend the following book:
>
>LSD- A Total Study, by D.V. Siva Sankar
>PJD Publishing Ltd. Westbury, N.Y. 11590
>Library of Congress Catalog Card No.  72-95447
>
>'ta
>-Matt


Wow, a post in which just about every other statement is totally hosed
though some appropriate jargoin is included.  Ah, usenet...
--
David Honig
"To get to the new paradigm, you don't just think about what it would be
like.  You put down stakes and try to start living in it."  Marc Weiser,
head of Comp Sci Lab, Xerox PARC, as reported in Advanced Imaging  Aug 92
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Butyrophenones and Phenothiazines
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:23:42 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Nov14.040052.26698@u.washington.edu> lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
>Sorry, I thought that Haldol was one of the newer ones (if its not then I
>may very well be wrong).  The ones I'm thinking of have a different
>affinity for the D3 receptor than the older ones like chlorpromazine,
>and it was hypothesized that this might have something to do with the
>lower reported frequency of tardive dyskinesia...

For whatever reason these new ones haven't yet been observed to cause TD,
haloperidol ain't one of them.  It's been around for almost 30 years, and
is one of the most classical of the classical neuroleptics.  (That is, its
screening in animal studies back then seemed to select for drugs with all
the side effects we now associate with the "classical neuroleptics".)

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mishae@niksula.hut.fi (Magic Mike)
Subject: Re: Tripping Idea
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:17:25

Hi folks,

Axeman writes:

>  Take a Polaroid snapshot of something and watch it slowly transform from a
>  white blob into a nifty picture..

 I heard about this really neat trick from a FOAF: He had a Polaroid
camera that could do double-exposures, that is, put two pictures on
top of each other, on the same paper (I'm not sure if this camera was
broken, it was discovered by a fortunate mistake!). They first
photographed the Guns'n'Roses t-shirt on one dude, a shirt with lots
of red roses on. Then they photographed themselves, three guys, wasted
beyond belief, with this 'OoohmyGOD I'm gonna get my picture on a
little piece of paper, isn't that the most fantastic thing that *ever*
could happen"-look on their face. The dude in the middle of the
picture screamed out loud when the flash went off, so he ended up with
this big rose planted in his wide open mouth!

 Watching this picture develop was really far out, especially since
the film was a few years old! The colors were really funky, the bright
red turned out sort of earthy brownish. Great fun, and a nice memory
form the trip!
--
Cheers,

            Misha
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From: muwjt@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (William J. Taney)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Physiological Effects of LSD
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:16:44 GMT
Distribution: alt.drugs
Organization: Educational Computing Network


>Ohmygod. Thank you for playing, but...no. First, Serotonin is NOT
>'the inhibitor substance' in the brain. Serotonin's effect is mimicked
>in CERTAIN parts of the brain >BY< LSD.  LSD does not attach itself to
>Serotonin. It is an agonist. That means it acts like Serotonin. There
>are 5 types of Serotonin receptor in the brain. LSD will interact with
>ONE of them. The effect is felt predominantly in the limbic system, and
>in certain association areas (tempoparietal, for one). 

Does anyone know what kind of interaction LSD would have with drugs that
are intended to effect seroronin activity such as PROZAC (Flouroextine I
think).  

-- 
*William Taney                *   Lobotomy's for Republicans
*muwjt@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu        *          it's the Law
*Western Illinois University  * Clinton/Gore and Carol Moseley Braun
*                             *             in '92
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From: farif@halcyon.com (David John Kunz)
Subject: Re: help me!
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 10:42:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.014738.21101@burrhus.harvard.edu> glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier) writes:
>>>Niacin (also called Niacinamide, or vitamin b- ... 12 I think) will
>>>help counteract the psychological effects of LSD. Start with a 4gram dose,
>>>and wait a day or so to see if it helps; don't overdo it.
>>>-- 
>>>"Faahk Ohhf Yoo Buhm, I Keehl Youu!!" - Lupo The Butcher
>>>glazier@isr.harvard.edu    internet  | Convictions cause
>>>glazier@harvunxw           bitnet    | Convicts.
>>
>>nonono...niacin and niacinamide arent the same exactly. taking lots of niacin
>>will give you a niacin flush, characterized by a warm prickly feeling all over
>>your skin.  Niacinamide won't do this.  It's the niacin flush that is supposed
>>to abort a trip, but whether thisis actually true, beyond the psychosomatic 
>>level, is rather questionable.
>>
>>Chuck Falzone
>>cjf49655@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
> It doesn't *abort* the trip, I didn't say it did. It does calm down
>someone who is in a drug-induced panic, tho I can't prove this beyond 
>personal experience. My reference for this information is Robert Anton
>Wilson in 'Sex and Drugs', and a book by Abbie Hoffman that I can't recall
>the title of at the moment. 
>
>As for them being similar, I've personally seen them both have the same 
>quieting effect. I don't know if their chemically similar, that is. two
>names for the same compound.

According to Durk Pearson and Sandy Shaw in _Life Extension:  A
Practical Scientific Approach_, "Niacin is intimately involved in brain
metabolism.  Large dosages of niacin, C, and B-6 have been effective in
the treatment of schizophrenics.  Niacin can be used as a safe treatment
for bad drug trips with LSD and other psychedelics and possibly PCP.
About one hour after a dose of niacin (which may range from 1 to several
grams), a hallucinating and frightened tripper may be calm and
communicating."

Also, niacinamide is an activator for benzodiazepine receptors
(benzodiazepines include Valium and Librium for instance), which
probably explains the calming effect of niacinamide and niacin.

Niacin and niacinamide are chemically similar.  Niacin can be converted
to niacinamide in the body.

(My first net posting.  If I've screwed up, please be gentle.)
From: LILMARA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Martin Lilly)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Shroom advice needed...
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:09:34 GMT
Organization: Yale University

In article <1992Nov18.184652.845@blurt.oswego.edu>
faps2901@blurt.oswego.edu writes:
 
>> My question is simple:  What should one expect when using shrooms?
>
> (lines about vomiting deleted-recommends about 1g dry weight to start)
>eat more.  caps or stems? both get you off from what I've heard.  My close
>friend ate stems only on halloween and had a great time.  enjoy!!!
 
There is no difference in psilocybin content between stems and caps. In fact,   -
liquid culture. I think 1 g is on the low end, but probably a reasonable place
to start. 5 g is a much more satisfying experience- my favorite is about 50 g
of fresh (ie,wet) shrooms in a nice cheese omelet, yummy!
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:18586 talk.politics.drugs:7503
From: drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Danny)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
Subject: Jesus, Drugs, & Me
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:19:54 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <1992Nov16.224723.2368@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, degroomp@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:

 
> No offence to you Dan, but obviously you have never taken LSD... I am speaking
> as a recovering drug addict and abuser... It is extremely difficult
> to determine Reality from fantasy while the fire hydrant on the 
> corner turns into a large green and red dragon which begins to
> breath fire on you.  Now that I am sober I find it much easier to beleive
> that this dragon was merely a figment of my imagination and NOT
> a miracle from God... However, giving you some credit it IS 
> possible that this dragon was a message from God that I should
> have quit drugs and lead a "religiuos" life... However, I realized
> how fucked up I was through RATIONALITY... I was broke fixed on
> various substances and my life was shit.
> 
> 
> 			Matt 
-- 


The text above was posted by a student to one of our local newsgroups.

Comments anyone?



-- Danny
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Head Shops Minneap
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 19:13:54 GMT

In article <By01E6.EF6@portal.hq.videocart.com>, tdonnell@portal.hq.videocart.com (Tim Donnelly) writes:
>New to the net.
>Cant seem to type way talk.
>Might to do with ugs.
>
>Brother school Dakota Tech.
>Brother look pipes.
>Head shops Minneapolis StPaul????
>Come home for Turkey
>Please talk back by Turkey

Is this posting from Tonto, Tarzan, or Frankenstein's Monster?  :^)

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: civl097@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: LSD Murder
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:02:11 GMT

In article <g3oeuB1w165w@works.uucp>, veggie@works.uucp (The Deth Volkswagen) writes:
> There was an interesting tidbit in this weeks Newsweek, on page 10... 
> It's under the _CRIME_ section, and the Headline is "Jell-O Murder"... 
> The text of the article follows:
> 
> [....]
> girlfriend Christina Martin. There was no autopsy. But after hearing 
> reports that Martin had talked to drug dealers about killing her lover, 
> police exhumed Alfredo's body - and found huge doses of LSD in his blood. 
> [...]

> Anyone have any thoughts on the matter?
>  - Veg
-- 
Yes, While no expert on LSD, I had understood that it was a somewhat delicate
substance with the need to store it at low temperatures and out of light to
prevent degradation. (I think Hoffman mentions this in his "Problem Child"??)

It would seem to me that the insides of a corpse and the residual blood in 
particular would be a particularly harsh environment, a veritable decaying
stew. Wouldn't this rapidly destroy any LSD present (metabolites included)
making the claimed analysis on an exhumed body impossible? 
Any forensic pathologists care to comment?



Brandon Hutchison,University of Canterbury,Christchurch
                  New Zealand

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: tdonnell@portal.hq.videocart.com (Tim Donnelly)
Subject: Head Shops Minneap
Organization: VideOcart Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:18:05 GMT

New to the net.
Cant seem to type way talk.
Might to do with ugs.

Brother school Dakota Tech.
Brother look pipes.
Head shops Minneapolis StPaul????
Come home for Turkey
Please talk back by Turkey


Thank


ZAK


Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.config
From: sean.cloherty@betabbs.newton.ma.us (Sean Cloherty) 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: JURISDICTION ARGUMENT/DEF
Date: 19 Nov 92 01:24:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Reply to: trystro!betabbs!(firstname.lastname)@think.com
Reply-To: sean.cloherty@betabbs.newton.ma.us (Sean Cloherty) 

        I am extremely interested in the documentation of this defense.
I am a lawyer in Cambridge, Massachusetts.  I do not practice in that
area, but I have a personal interest in personal freedom and
Constitutional Law.  I am also new to this net, and would need
instruction on how to mail you a SASE if necessary.  Else Post here or
send to me.  Thanks.
                          
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: RFD?:  alt.drugs.lsd
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff & Nonsense Division
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:01:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.213538.1807@mtu.edu> kfseefel@mtu.edu (KURT F. SEEFELDT) writes:

>The energy expended to form the new newsgroup would only
>increase the amount of net traffic by sending duplicate
>articles.

This is false.  Sites decide whether or not to accept articles based
only on their Message-IDs.  The number of newsgroups to which an
article is posted has no bearing on whether or not it gets passed to
another host.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
From: david@terminus.ericsson.se (David Bold)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Antihistamines
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:25:40 GMT
Reply-To: david@terminus.ericsson.se
Distribution: world
Organization: Camtec Electronics (Ericsson), Leicester, England

Anybody got a MIMS book out there?

I need to know the side effects of Triludan.

David.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Methadone
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 15:12:00 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1egvm9INNm1@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>Do any of you `brains` out there no the history and philosophical intent
>behind methadone? I have to give an oral lecture Monday and any background
>would be GREATLY appreciated!!!!

    Any basic text on medicinal or pharmaceutical chemistry will have the
information you seek.  In particular, I recommend Walter Sneader's book
"Drug Discovery: the evolution of modern medicines" (Wiley).  It's not
overly technical and is fascinating reading.

-- 
   ******************************************************************
     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ.