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From: owen@olympus.arc.nasa.gov..arc.nasa.gov (Owen S. Nishioka)
Subject: Re: High Density floppy drive in a Mac II?
Keywords: Doesn't work right...
Organization: Nasa-Ames Research Center
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 23:57:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.184349.21307@edsi.plexus.COM> trimper@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg Trimper) writes:
>owen@olympus.arc.nasa.gov..arc.nasa.gov (Owen S. Nishioka) writes:
>
>>>and would like to install a High Density drive in it.  When we put the HD
>>>drive in, it refuses to read HD disks.  It has a Rev A motherboard in it,
>>>so I'm assuming we need a ROM upgrade, right?  Or is there some other
>>>way we can get the drive to work correctly?  If not, any idea how much
>>>an upgrade should/will cost?  Thanks!!!!
>
>>In order to use a SuperDrive in a Mac II one would have to purchase a
>>ROM upgrade.  With the upgrade, one would get Mac IIx ROMs and the SWIM
>                             :
>>Another alternative if all you want is HD Ability, would be to look
>>into Applied Engineerings Plus Drives or (Dayna?? There's at least one other
>>company).  Both drives are HighDensity Mac drives capable of reading IBM
>>disks without the ROM upgrade.
>
>Only problem with the AE drive being that it is an EXTERNAL floppy drive,
>and the Mac II does not have a floppy drive port.  And I am not confident
>you could effectively mount their mech inside a Mac II AND get the cabling
>right, with any ease.

AE sells for $19? a part that takes the second internal drive connecter
to the outside of the mac via DB19.  This makes your Mac II have an
external drive port.


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From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: RE-Compression Software
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:08:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)


Jerry Wilcox says he's going to recommend DD/AD because he has good
experience with that product. That is, of course, his right, but when
he says there have been "various notes" from folks who don't think
Stuffit Deluxe/Stuffit Space Saver is a better product, I have to say
that my understanding of the facts is different.

I've been using the released product for a few weeks now, and
have had no problems with SD/SSS. I tried one case where I booted
from another machine with SD (3.0) but not SSS installed, and it
expanded the SSS files on the first machine just fine.

Thus I conclude that the one user whose message reported problems
was using the product improperly--he had SSS files on one machine
and tried to read them on a second machine which did not have
SSS or SD (comparable version) installed.

As for complaints, anyone who has been following the history of AD/DD
will recall many tens of complaints and long threads on Compuserve as
the product went through one upgrade after another. It has been
upgraded yet again. This is not necessarily an unmitigated bad
thing--some say the frequent upgrades show the vendor's responsiveness
to bug reports. Fair enough. Nevertheless from what I've seen the
number of bug reports to date (proven or not) about SD/SSS is
microscopic compared to those of AD/DD in the past, at a comparable
stage of development.

Bottom line: one can choose either product based on its speed and
features, since AD/DD's compression efficiency is about the same as
SD/SSS. If speed is important, I find AD/DD much slower. On the basis
of features and convenience I find SD/SSS head and shoulders above
AD/DD. My own choice is SD/SSS, which I recommend unhesitatingly, after
having used both products. 

(More Disk Space is another product I've used, and find inferior in
breadth and power to SD/SSS. Moreover some object to its
implementation--it attracted criticism from several Mac "gurus"
because of its installing a resource in (patching) the System File,
which some think a big no-no. The programmers have since, I'm told,
provided an alternative to this. Further, several on Compuserve have
been near-enraged at what they saw as deliberate evasiveness and
obfuscation with respect to bug reports. Again, after a lot of
community pressure, they've moved to get their act together.)

Disclaimer: The compression follies are a very competitive area and
vendors are constantly improving their products. What is true one
day may not be true six months later.
From: brad@vedge.UUCP (Brad Fowlow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: How do you zap PRAM under Sys7?
Date: 29 Aug 92 18:10:43 GMT
Organization: Visual Edge Software, St. Laurent, Quebec

bwilliam@oyster.smcm.edu (Bill Williams) writes:
: >To reset: Hold Command-Option -p-r
: 
: Yes, but WHY would I zap the PRAM?  I've only heard of needing to do it
: if there are bizarre things going on (most recently posted of which is
: the "wecome to Mac" mac icon not showing up in color).

Some things in the pram:
	desktop pattern, mouse speed, sound volume, keyboard layout,
	highlight color, -startup disk-, default app font.

Incidentally, although the time is in pram, it isn't reset by a zap.

cheers.
-- 
 Brad Fowlow   brad@vedge.com 	Visual Edge Software Limited  
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 Language is the house of being.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: zaphod@bluemoon.rn.com (Peter Bierman)
Subject: Re: news
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 00:07:39 EDT

Mary.Hicks@p0.f222.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mary Hicks) writes:

> All jews should be shot in the head. They control the media and make it 

Why comp.sys.mac.system? (Why does 42 come to mind...)


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
Subject: Re: Apple breaks promise? MODE32 not in 7.1?
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:46:46 GMT

amanda@intercon.com (Amanda Walker) writes:

>Remember, 7.1 is only in beta.  It's not done yet.  In fact, I understand 
>that none of the seed releases contains the complete set of features that 
>will end up in the release.  The fact that MODE32 is not on the 7.1 developer 
>CD does not imply *anything* about whether or not it will be in the final 
>release.

>If you're going to gripe about 7.1, at least wait until it's out the door, 
>for goodness sake.

>Geez, people.


>Amanda Walker
>InterCon Systems Corporation

What, no Latin?  What did it say anyway?  I am dying to know now for no
good reason :-)

Anyway, I would have assumed they would have built the MODE32 into the
system and just built an extension into the Memory control panel so you can
enable/disable it.

That's how I'd do it and people with decent machintoshes (oh for a quaddra)
would never even see the fact that MODE32 was built in.

Craig

--
Craig Richmond.  Computer Officer -  Dept of Economics (morning) 380 3860
  University of Western Australia    Dept of Education (afternoon)
craig@ecel.uwa.edu.au                              Dvorak Keyboards RULE!
     "Only users are allowed to make messes on their computers"  I.M.VI
From: mschatzberg@mhnj.sbi.com (Mike Schatzberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: MacImage Software upgrade
Keywords: Xerox Imgaing System, Datacopy, MacImage
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:29:36 GMT
Reply-To: mschatzberg@mhnj.sbi.com (Mike Schatzberg)
Organization: Salomon Inc, Rutherford, NJ, USA

Xerox Imgaing System has sent me an upgrade notice
for my MacImage software used to drive the Datacopy
line of scanners.  This will make my scanner work
under System 7.

The upgrade consists of "plug-in" drivers for a
version of Adobe Photoshop.  The driver and the
limited version of Photshop are included in the
update priced at $195.  Upgrades to full Photoshop
are available.

Scanners supported are the following XIS/Datacopy
models:

  GSplus   730GS   830   and 730

Contact Xerox at (800) 248-6550 extension 3 or for
those outside of US/Canada (508) 977-2000 extension 3.
FAX number is (508) 977-2148.

Mike Schatzberg (mschatzberg@mhnj.sbi.com)

Mike Schatzberg, Salomon Inc, 745 Route 3, Rutherford, NJ 07070 USA
Phone: (201) 896-7622   Email: mschatzberg@mhnj.sbi.com
From: dr_mcgee@pnl.gov (David R. McGee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: printing bombs
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:55:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: pythagor.dr_mcgee-280892165952
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Pacific Northwest Laboratory

FYI after several hours of testing, I hope that the printing problems have
dispersed here at PNL. The apparent solution was to move and rename the
KeyAccess extension, so that it loads completely last. It is unknown if it
was this extension itself or some other extension that happens to be
causing the problem. As you know loading order of extensions can have a lot
to do with problems dissapearing. I will post if further news surfaces.

David R. McGee
Network Manager
Battelle Northwest
Pacific Northwest Laboratory
Battelle Boulevard, M/S K1-88
Richland, WA 99352
(509)375-6994
fax  375-6631
ALINK drmcgee
internet dr_mcgee@pnl.gov
From: cowen@acsu.buffalo.edu (Michael Cowen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Desktop patterns have gone berserk
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:33:55 GMT
Organization: UB

Dear Netters,

The usual desktop patterns on my Mac IIcx have disappeared and have been
replaced by black and white patterns of the sort that appear in MacPaint.
The control panel no longer has the little color palette under the desktop
pattern,  so I can't change back to the old patterns.

I am running sys 6.0.7.  

I was able to duplicate the problem by using res edit,  but I can't undo
the problem.  

Thanks,
        Mike Cowen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent)
Subject: Running mac+ from a car battery...
Organization: Texas A&M Univ., Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 20:15:20 GMT

Hi,

Since one of my interests is amateur radio (specifically packet), I'm 
interested in converting my mac+ to run off a DC source, i.e., bypass the
power supply inside and run the machine from a 5/12 VDC source.  This
way, I could use it as a mobile radio station or for emergency purposes.

Has anybody done this, or heard of anybody doing this?  If so, could you
please email me what you know?  I have schematics and other technical
information, but it's good to hear about other's experience too.

Thanks,
-Brent
From: Derek_Juntunen@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Derek Juntunen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: ARA
Distribution: world
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:51:27 EST
Organization: Amiga BitSwap Central Dispatch

Where can I get ARA?

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Derek Juntunen   
Go Blue!

                      
                    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: rankin@ms.uky.edu (David W. Rankin Jr.)
Subject: Re: Apple breaks promise? MODE32 not in 7.1?
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:44:20 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In article <1992Aug31.205543.325@ms.uky.edu> justin@mik.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan) writes:
>
>True.. I wanted to interject one thing on this thought, if no one objects:
>I was glancing through a MacZone (I think) catalog I got yesterday and  
>noticed that ATM is still being sold for $99! If Apple has bought it, and  
>Adobe is 'giving' it away, why are they still selling it for $99, other then  
>the fact that most Mac users probably aren't aware of this yet, of course. :)
This is an example of wonderful marketing, convincing people to buy something
that's already free. :)
Actually, the Apple "free" version only has a couple of fonts packaged in, but
they weren't enough to make me leave it on & take that much more system space.
(I don't do PostScript stuff though, so that will make a difference.)
So, you get the good fonts when you buy the full package.

David W. Rankin, Jr.,  Mac Archiver for f.ms.uky.edu   Yorick on IRC
rankin@ms.uky.edu  rankin@ukma.BITNET rankin@ukma.UUCP uunet!ukma!rankin
Alternate addresses: rankin@ms.uky.edu  djrank00@aix3090b.uky.edu
---<Insert standard "These are my thoughts, and only mine." disclaimer here>---
"Now all has been heard;/ Here is the conclusion of the matter:/ Fear God and
keep his commandments,/ for this is the whole duty of man."
    "The Teacher", Ecclesiastes 12:13 (NIV)
    
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: aland@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Alan D.)
Subject: Re: Aliases--- Getting to the source
Reply-To: aland@cs.brandeis.edu
Organization: As little as possible
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 20:09:46 GMT

armand@comm.mot.com (Arman Dolikian) writes:

>There's got to be a better way!!!  (I hope)....

>I have a set of files that I regularly copy onto a floppy disk to 
>shuttle between home and work.  The files are rightfully stored in 
>different directories on my disk.   I had the bright idea that I could
>keep a folder of aliases so I could speed up the daily find and copy 
>process.  Only problem is,  copying the folder only copies the _aliases_,
>not the files themselves.   I guess this is the "logical" thing to 
>expect,  but...

>What I _really_ want is a way to tell the finder to copy the object the
>alias points to,  not just the alias.  

>{Right now,  I manually go to each alias, do a Get Info, click on
>"Find Original", then drag the resultant file....  but this is very
>tedious, and makes me wish there was a command shell on the Mac!!}

>Now that I've explained what I want to do,  and why I want to do it,
>does anyone have any suggestions on how to accomplish this feat?

There are a few ways...  The first would be to purchase something like
Frontier and write a shell script to copy the files.  A second would
be to keep the files on the floppy, and put an alias to each into the
proper place on each drive, and use the alias instead of the actual
file.  It'll ask for the floppy and deal accordingly...  A third and
more difficult way would be to just use the Finder's "Find" command,
more options, and search for files which have been modified since a
particular date...  A fourth would be to use a backup program, rather
than the Finder.

I don't know which would be easiest...

	-=Alan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jcav@quads.uchicago.edu (JohnC)
Subject: Re: Apple breaks promise? MODE32 not in 7.1?
Reply-To: jcav@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The Royal Society for Putting Things on Top of Other Things
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:03:16 GMT

In article <SPENCER.92Aug31125259@guraldi.med.umich.edu> spencer@med.umich.edu (Spencer W. Thomas) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.080521.13035@msc.cornell.edu> maynard@groo.msc.cornell.edu (Maynard J. Handley) writes:
>> This strikes me as a rather hysterical response. Mode32 exists. You can ftp
>> it for free. It works. We have no evidence that it does NOT work with
>> system 7.1. 
>
>My understanding was that MODE32 worked only with system 7.0, not even
>with 7.0.1.  Please correct me if I'm wrong.

You're wrong.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: matsb@tdb.uu.se (Mats Bredell)
Subject: Re: New Inside Mac Books Out
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
Distribution: comp.sys.mac
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:19:24 GMT

karen@Cayman.COM (Karen Houldin) writes:
: I just saw a couple of the new Inside Mac books in the MIT COOP.
: 
: There are about 10 books in the set, collected by subject.
: 
: The ones that I can remember are:
: 
: Communications
: Network
: Files
: Processing
: Memory
: 
: The smallest book, memory, was $24.95.
: 
: I don't know if the entire set is available, for the coop only had the ones
: listed above.

Does anyone know if the book are available in loose leaf editions, like the
old ones? I'd really like to put them in binders.

/Mats
-- 
Mats Bredell                                   Mats.Bredell@udac.uu.se
Uppsala University Computing Center (UDAC)
Department of medical systems                  Ph:  +46 18 187817
Sweden                                         Fax: +46 18 187825
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: fbaker@nyx.cs.du.edu (fred baker)
Subject: Re: Apple breaks promise? MODE32 not in 7.1?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 02:13:04 GMT

In article <SPENCER.92Aug31125259@guraldi.med.umich.edu> spencer@med.umich.edu (Spencer W. Thomas) writes:

>My understanding was that MODE32 worked only with system 7.0, not even
>with 7.0.1.  Please correct mee if I'm wrong.

Spencer, MODE32 indeed works with System 7.0.1.  It also works with the 7.1
beta.  And while I was surprised to find that MODE32's functionality had not
been built into the beta, I don't think it's anything to fret about.  MODE32
does work with it.

Fred

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: delaat@fys.ruu.nl (Cees de Laat)
Subject: Re: 7.1 in Beta??? MODE32 not (yet) in.
Organization: Physics faculty, univ. of Utrecht
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:09:06 GMT

Up to now Apple has not build in the MODE32 init (dirty ROM patch or
whatever you want to call it) into system 7.1 . I quess people still
have to juggle around with a few of those inits to get all wanted 
functionality on older MAC's. I checked system 7.1 on a MAC-SE30.
I did not get the choise 32-bit addressing in the memory panel.
I did not check if MODE 32 is compatible with sys 7.1 .

C. de Laat

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: nick@pixel.rm.fccc.edu (Nick Kokkos)
Subject: Windows NT = Death of the Mac?
Organization: The Fox Chase Cancer Center
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:18:20 GMT

Hello Netters. 
Is it logical to say that an IBM PC machine running Windows NT will be better
than a Macintosh running System 7.0? For the past 6 months, I have been an
assistant to our network manager running around installing system 7.0 and
teaching the users how to use it. I think System 7.0 is more than great 
because it gives you a lot of flexibility networking Macintoshes and requires
litle maintainance. In fact, we tell our users to buy Macintoshes instead of
PCs when it comes down to getting a computer. I have found out that Macintoshes
are easier to troubleshoot and system 7.0 gives a better, cleaner support than 
System 6.0 and Windows 3.x
 The question here is whether Microsoft could come up with a Windows NT version
that could offer the capabilities system 7.0 offers. In fact, someone told me
that it would be better if Windows NT could offer what System 7.0 offers because
someone could buy a PC for $1,300, run Windows NT and off he/she goes. Which
modular Macintosh sells for $1,300, today? One might say that MacLCII sells for
about $1,800 at a street price but compared to, say, $1,300 cost for an IBM PC
one could go ahead and buy IBM PCs running Windows NT if he/she wants to buy
a lot of them. 
 Now, I don't know much Windows because neither I have  used it extensively nor
I ever had the need to do so. Can someone tell whether I have written here is
something that is bound to happen? Feel free to post your opinions.
I would hate to have my Mac loose to a PC!   
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: vthrc@brolga.cc.uq.oz.au (Danny Thomas)
Subject: Finder Customization: sys6 v sys7
Keywords: finder customization system7
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:52:28 GMT


I've had a look at the material on info-mac for customizing the System 7 
Finder and while I've added some keyboard equivalents to "Empty Trash", 
etc, there doesn't seem to be a way for achieving some of the 
customizations possible with the System 6 Finder's LAYO resource:
  1) a double-click on a window title bar activates the parent
     folder window
  2) changing the line-spacing in the "By Name/Size/Kind/Date" Views.
     In System 6 I reduced it from the default 16 points to 13pt. 
     Particularly on the small Mac screens this considerably increased 
     'information density' without being too crowded. Now, some parts of 
     Finder 6.x had the default value of 16 hard-coded, and fixing those 
     I could find left a few visual flaws: click-dragging & the graying 
     of the vertical scroll bar still seemed to be based on the default 
     value. I could have spent more time probing the Finder code, but I 
     could live with those problems.

Any advice is welcome but I would appreciate an email copy of anything 
posted to NetNews - I don't always have the time to keep up, and 
sometimes our server manages to lose a big chunk of articles. NB my 
preferred email address is underlined below.

cheers,
X500: @c=AU [I'm about to update VTHRC entries, soon...]
       @o=University of Queensland
        @ou=Physiology and Pharmacology Department
         @ou=Vision Touch and Hearing
          @cn=Danny Thomas
           @rfc822Mailbox=vthrc@cc.uq.oz.au
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: rudi@netcom.com (Rudolf Usselmann)
Subject: Serial Port Additions ??
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 16:40:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


Hi !

I'm looking for a NuBus card with a few serial
i/o ports. I know of the AE cards (one with one
without DMA). I'm wondering if there are any other
manufacturers of such cards.
Anybody has a used for sale ???

rudi
rudi@sparc.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: kiwasa@helix.nih.gov (k.h. iwasa)
Subject: ms window emulator
Organization: nih
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:32:08 GMT

My colleague wants to buy a mac for his home use.  His wife wants to run
a spread-sheet like program that is based on ms window.  That is a custom 
made program, and is unlikely to have a counterpart on the mac. How this 
can be resolved without buying two separate machines?

Is there such a thing as ms window emulator on the mac?  I saw ads about
ms dos emulator for the mac. Is it possible to run ms window on top of ms
dos emulator? I imagine it would be extremely sluggish if it works that 
way.  Does it work?  How sluggish?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: qman@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Charles Kuehmann)
Subject: Screen Inverter Summary
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:40:34 GMT

Sorry about the confusion I ment to append the e-mail from Richard long
describing the Fkey but somehow blew it. The name of the Fkey is "Eye
Saver".
Charlie Kuehmann
From: Mary.Hicks@p0.f222.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mary Hicks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: news
Date: 30 Aug 92 00:23:57 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:125/222.0 - Macademe/Emma, San Francisco CA

All jews should be shot in the head. They control the media and make it 
look like Palestinians are wrong when in fact the jews are doing 
genocide to them. The jews are the nazis of the desert and Rabin the 
Hitler of the middle east. Why do jews commit genocide of palestinians 
after them round them up and put them into death camps? 

JEWs: Ivan Boesky; Keating: Mike Milken; Carl Icahn; These are the Den 
of Thieves, since most jews love to cheat people. Never trust anyone 
with the last name Zimmer or Horowitz or Epstein or Roth, or Rosenberg.



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