From: scg@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Scott Goehring)
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Re: Sex fantasies--men, women, other.
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:50:38 GMT
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dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:

>Assumption? No. Fact. All a woman must do to go out and get laid,
>provided she is even average, is to go out and make herself
>available.  If there are males available, she'll get what she wants.

The problem is that, in many cases, just any man won't do to fulfill
the fantasy.  The fantasy is not generally merely to 'get laid'.  The
man has to be willing to do certain things in certain ways, or have
specific qualities.  I doubt that most women's sexual fantasies entail
having cheap wanton sex with whatever schmoe they can find in a cheap
bar.

I doubt that most men could be persuaded to do 'anything' to satisfy a
woman's desire, either.  Everyone has limits.  For example, I will not
perform oral sex on a woman while she is menstruating.

My personal fantasies are rather specific in many ways.  I have
trouble believing that I'm unusual in having requirements in my
fantasy partner beyond 'have dick/pussy, will travel'.

>The limiting factor for women is that they inhibit their desire to go
>out and score.

I'm not a woman; but I suspect that most women don't go out and
'score' not because they don't desire to fulfill their sexual desires,
but rather because what is available to them in such situations will
not be able to fulfill their desires.

>(Most women I've talked to on this subject eventually concede they
>can get it whenever they want, provided they are willing to 'act like
>a slut.'

Get sex.  Not necessarily the sex they want the way they want it.

>Virtally all of the males I have talked with on the subject envy the
>fact that they have to wait for a woman to come in and pick out her
>partner. We would be HAPPY to be called sluts if we could get it
>anytime.)

Kindly put me (a male) in the category of males who often reject
sexual overtures by females, precisely because I don't want it right
then.  I quite simply don't want sex all the time.

>Just to cite some scientific data, a team of researchers sent equally
>attractive males and females into a bar to 'pick up' partners.

'Equally attractive'.  There's a standardized metric for
attractiveness now?

>They then compared types of approaches (humurous, flattery, buying a
>drink...) that each gender succeeded with. The male 'scoring rate'
>was low (I think in the 40% overall) while the women hit 100% of the
>time. Even when their appraoch was nothing more than "Hi."

Perhaps this is because that many single men in bars are not so
concerned as to the nature of the female they insert their member into
(so long as it has two tits and a cunt - some might waive the former
requirement), whereas the women are more particular (if they weren't,
they'd be off in a room somewhere with the aforementioned men,
inserting tab M in slot W).

I would be curious what percentage of the females in the study would
have really desired to have sex with the men they 'scored' with.  I
suspect it would be quite low.

>Sorry, I was simply talking about the MAJORITY of times. I guess I
>should have provided for every possible alternative, including
>bestiality, celibacy, and mono-eroticism.

I'll gladly admit that my fantasies may be a bit unusual.  Has anybody
ever done a study regarding what percentage of men have ever
fantasized themselves in a homosexual encounter?

>So? Who cares what you think when it comes to our fantasies???

DC, you've clearly demonstrated that you don't care what anybody
thinks when it comes to anything.
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