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From: ddb@vpnet.chi.il.us (dennis box)
Subject: Re: Info needed on Spanish Fly !!!!!
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 04:26:36 GMT

In article <BxHGBp.1Kt@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> app45293@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (ZUSS) writes:
>ath@linkoping.trab.se (Anders Thulin) writes:
>
>>>9127847h@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>>>
>>>Hello to all......
>>>A friend of mine spiked his next door neighbours drink with
>>>Spanish Fly.... and a few minutes later she was rubbing herself
>>>and then she tore his clothes off and made passionate love to him...
>
>>Actually, chickpeas or oysters are just as good, and not quite as
>>dangerous.
>
>	Interestingly enough, the scientific explanation for the powerful
>aphrodisiac effects of oysters is that they so closely resemble the so called
>"rocky-mountain oysters."  I'll be honest and tell you I don't really know 
>a chickpea is, but it sounds like something that resembles a very small 
>testicle so it therefore should have the opposite effect.
>
>-- 
> --  Tony Pulokas
>     University of Illinois, Urbana/Champaign
>     College of Engineering

That line about oysters is WRONG!!!  I ate a dozen of them prior
to my last date, only five of them worked!!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 19:30:33 EST
From: <KRF105@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Intro to eXtasy DEFENSE

 I apologize for presenting myself as a cruel, inhumane, individual.
 I should have stated myself differently and phrased my question in the
 following manner - If someone wanted to slip another individual the drug,
 (granted, it could even be done to me,) would scent, taste or any other
characteristic show the person what was going on.  As I stated, I am new
 to eXtasy, and would like positive feedback for a beginner, but understand
 drugs and the ethics related.  I hope you all can accept my apology and I look
 forward to helpfull info, thanks, The JESTER (also, those of you who felt this
 name was anything but appropriate, it is best to understand before making
 personal replies, the name was received several years ago on the beach where
 I earned MVP in an east coast competition.) Later - also any DOORS fans, who
 understand the music and poetry, not just 'follow' it please share your
 knowledge.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] Fentanyl
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: anonymous
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 14:52:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.134203.29655@u.washington.edu> ap.6242@cupid.sai.com
writes:
>
>
> I was scanning some old messages (1990-91) that were posted on alt.drug

>and I noticed something strange. The message said something to the effec

>of: Benzyl Fentanyl is not listed as a controlled substance.
>
> Now I know that Fentanyl Citrate is a controlled substance (C II)
>and has been for some time. It was listed as C II in a 79' PDR.
>
> I am very curious to see if anyone has any info on this. I would like
>to know if there is something called Benzyl Fentanyl. And if there is,
>is it scheduled?
>
>Thanks
>
>
>
>-- 
>To post anonymously to alt.drugs send a message to ap.4151@cupid.sai.com

>All lines after a line containing only "--" will be stripped.
>Remember:  These articles are anonymous, but not secure. 


 I don't know exactly if there is a banzyl fentanyl, but the fatc that
it's not controlled may be because it is not as _interesting_ as fentanyl.
SAR of opioids are very odd. Sometimes a very radical structural change
will make a narcotic very potent, while a samll change may make it
inactive or an antagonist.

 St. Anthony

--
          / N \   O           Lastz unser Seelen vom Schimmel befrein!
         |   \ |  || Ph       Lastz unser Schaedel vom Pilzbewuchs befrein!
         |   | |_O-C-C-OH     Im Aas sielen! (correct my German!)
          \ / /      Ph               aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: Eric Sterling <esterling@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:49 PST
Subject: Re: Penalties for Acid Dealing?
Nf-ID: #R:1992Nov10.205445.6780@nmsu.edu:-479459300:cdp:1301300199:000:213
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!esterling    Nov 12 12:49:00 1992


Dear Friend Potosky,

Because Congress provided that any part of any substance containing a
controlled substance shall be included in the weight for the determination
of the quantity of drug, the answer is life.


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] DMT
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:06:15 GMT
Keywords: anonymous

ap.5160@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous) writes:

>world. On returning, all I could say was "who am I? what
>am I?" as I realised that I was still a body and a person
>in this universe, and all I had done was smoke a drug. By the 
>time I came to my senses enough to realise what had happened,
>it was over.

   I just felt that I had to comment on this, because this is very much like
what I have experienced on nitrous oxide. The thought that you can go beyond
all matter and form, even ideas as we know them while unaltered, and return
almost instantly, is so icredible. And moreover, that you will be exactly
the same person after it: you'll have to take a pee, eat, drink, breathe
and you will go to the neighbourhood shop for groceries just as any other human
being would.

   Wonder what it would be like to combine nitrous and DMT. Time will tell,
I guess.
--
Jani Heinonen		jah@mits.mdata.fi		Finger for PGP key
		  Religion is the DMT of the masses.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: A quick question...
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:16:46 GMT

In article <92311.155040WRL101@psuvm.psu.edu>, <WRL101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>     This may seem strange, but every time I smoke marijuana I fail to get high
>  I dont mean that I feel no effect; just that I don't react to it like every-
>  one says you should. While my friends are all giggling and buzzing, I just
>  get really muddy-headed and sleepy. Is this really abnormal or what?

A lot of people try pot and don't like it.  Bill Clinton says he's one of
them.  Others have to "learn" to get high; it gets better for them after
trying it a few times.

At the risk of preaching the obvious, if you don't enjoy smoking, don't.  It
will leave that much more for your giggling friends.  (If *they* have a
problem with you not smoking, find new friends.)

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: honig@ruffles.ICS.UCI.EDU ("David A. Honig")
Subject: Seminar on Ethnobotany and Chemistry of Psychoactive Plants
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:13:15 GMT

"two 7-day intensive field courses are to be held at a remote tropcial
rainforest in Southern Mexico"

15-21 Jan, 25-31 Jan

Location: Veracruz
Instructors: T. McKenna, J. Ott, R. Alarcon, R. Montgomery

Cost: $900, plus getting to Veracruz

Space limited; include short biography.

Write for info: Botanical Preservation Corps
		box 1368 Sebastopol Ca 95473 USA

NB: I'm not associated with them...
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:50:40 EST
From: <WRL101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: A quick question...

     This may seem strange, but every time I smoke marijuana I fail to get high
  I dont mean that I feel no effect; just that I don't react to it like every-
  one says you should. While my friends are all giggling and buzzing, I just
  get really muddy-headed and sleepy. Is this really abnormal or what?


  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   NOW ALL IS SILENT.  THE TOMBSTONES GLOW    |  - W. Lyman
   FAINTLY IN THE MOONLIGHT. THE DEAD BREATH  |    excerpted from my nightmares
   SILENCE THAT CLOSES YOUR QUESTING EAR...   |
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: sgs@grebyn.com (Stephen G. Smith)
Subject: Re: Info needed on Spanish Fly !!!!!
Organization: Agincourt Computing
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:56:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.073915.2948@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>9127847h@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:

>>Hello to all......
>>A friend of mine spiked his next door neighbours drink with
>>Spanish Fly.... and a few minutes later she was rubbing herself
>>and then she tore his clothes off and made passionate love to him...

>>I was just wondering if Spanish fly really is that good.....and where
>>can you purchase this aphrodisiac ?????? 

>Your friend is a liar or you are.   
>Try alt.folklore.urban for more information on common tall tales
>like spanish fly.

>Jim Del Vecchio

Spanish fly is a genital tract irritant.  It is sometimes used as an
"aphrodisiac" in cattle (when the Barry Manilow albums don't work :-).

The problem with trying to use it on humans is that the effective dose
is *very* close to the lethal dose.  (Also, frankly, "genital tract
irritant" doesn't sound all that sexy ....)

The traditional story (boy slips Spanish fly in girl's drink at drive-in
movie, girl can't get satisfaction from boy, impales herself on
gearshift, dies) would problably go more like:
boy slips Spanish fly into girl's drink, girl collapses in convulsions,
dies.


-- 
Steve Smith                     Agincourt Computing
sgs@grebyn.com                  (301) 681 7395
"Truth is stranger than fiction because fiction has to make sense."
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: bruceg@Cadence.COM (Bruce Gustifson)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] MDMA
Keywords: anonymous
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:09:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct25.174030.12781@u.washington.edu> ap.6010@cupid.sai.com writes:
>
>Hey drug people,
>safer than alcohol.  This brings up an interesting point -
>can anyone tell me what kind of damage alcohol does to your brain?  

  Weel, I^H^H^Hhaav^H^H been drunking^H^H^Hsevreal
^Hsixpakks^H^H of berer, uh bere, uh bereuh, beer
fer^H a loong time^H, and I hav^N^H noot had any
prooblems^H^H at aall.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: SEX on Acid
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 04:22:15 GMT

You might ask in alt.sex, but it sounds like an
exhaustion of some sort from having especially
intense orgasms.

I've had times when I had trouble walking shortly
after really really good sex.  It always felt like
I just didn't have enough energy to move.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
         We are obviously very close to reproducing the Muslim paradise
                   where every orgasm lasts six hundred years
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: Junkies/crack addicts don't try to share the fun?
Organization: Microdata Oy
Followups-To: alt.folklore.urban
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:00:26 GMT

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>Has anyone heard anything further on this? It is, more and more, appearing
>to be just another false claim.

   Should've thought about that. We're a little backwards here, thus leaded
fuel is more common. However, I don't think that the substitutes (pardon me
for not knowing what they are) are too healthy, either.
--
Jani Heinonen                    "Tonight when I chase the dragon,
jah@mits.mdata.fi                 The water may turn to cherry wine
Finger for public PGP key         And the silver will turn to gold
E-mailed upon request             Time out of mind."
From: mbreen@sdacs.ucsd.edu (Michael Breen)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Thanks from a FOAfarmer
Date: 11 Nov 1992 23:58:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdacs.ucsd.edu

Thanks to all who gave advice in saving my FOAFs tomatoes.
I am not posting names due to the sensitive nature of indoor tomato
farming in today's society.

One plant succummed, one is afflicted and struggling, the other all have
varying degrees of mild affliction.  All but that one is on the recovery.

Advice ran the gamut through air/water/soil/light/nutrients.  Almost all
the hypotheses were disproven by further investigation and research.  The
most likely candidate is N overdose, with both Al and Cu poisining also
in the realm of possibilities.

It appears that too much MirAcid was applied, and that the resulting degree
of affliction depending on watering schedule and the age of the plant.

Final verdict: one application of fertilizer (MirAcid, recommended because
of its high N content during vegatative stage) during non-ideal mental
conditions for the farmer caused a serious setback to a lot of labor.

Solution: be *very* careful with fertilizer, or just don't use it.  Someone
recommended something called 'blood fertilizer' (I think?) because it
self-regulates N intake.  Could that person re-post?  I think I lost the
reference.

Some advice that may have been wrong:
Needed more light: no, putting them outside is not recommended with plants
born and bred under lights.  The room in question is growing plants of all
sizes without a problem, until this occurred.

Needed bigger pots: Another FOAF grows 4 ft. plants in 6" pots, with plenty
of fruit.


Hope this saves someone else from emotional trauma.
From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Intro to Extasy
Date: 5 Nov 92 02:57:04 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <1992Nov4.163744.3254@muddcs.claremont.edu> cklausme@fenris.claremont.edu writes:

> In article <92308.193217KRF105@psuvm.psu.edu> <KRF105@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
> # It would be greatly appreciated if anyone could assist a few stressed out
> # engineers with a background on the drug eXtasy.  MY questions are as follows:
> #
> # [Questions about dose and side-effects deleted.]
> #
> # (3) Ability to administer to someone (ie unwilling girlfriend) without the
> #     individual being conscious of the drug.
> 
> 
> If I'm judging your intentions wrong, I'm sorry.  From the questions you
> pose, it sure seems that your goal is to dose up your girlfriend without her
> knowledge.
> 
> I am sure that this is highly illegal.  I also find it offensive and close
> enough to downright evil.  From your other questions, you obviously don't
> know too much about MDMA -- how could you even CONSIDER giving it to someone
> without their knowledge or consent?  You would be violating someone else's
> privacy of body and mind, which seems in the league of assault to me.
> 

	Not to mention the fact that X is a very potent hallucenagen, in some
cases moreso than common Acid. Submitting someone to a trip without their
consent is pretty darn risky if they A) don't know what they are getting into,
and B) Aren't prepared for what will happen to them while under the influence.
	Another thing is that it seems you have heard that X is a placebo for
attraction. Sorry, but if she doesn't want to sleep with you now, X isn't going
tomake too much of a difference.




> -- Chris

J. David Dickens . . . dickenjd@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu 
-----------------------------------------------------
"Ignorance is a dish that is best served with a side
order of fries and a Coke..."
				  ---me
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ck@iconix.oz.au (Chris Karadaglis)
Subject: Re: A quick question...
Organization: Iconix Pty Ltd (World Headquarters)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:27:01 GMT

In <92311.155040WRL101@psuvm.psu.edu> WRL101@psuvm.psu.edu writes:


>     This may seem strange, but every time I smoke marijuana I fail to get high
>  I dont mean that I feel no effect; just that I don't react to it like every-
>  one says you should. While my friends are all giggling and buzzing, I just
>  get really muddy-headed and sleepy. Is this really abnormal or what?


After you've had a large drag, enough to fill your lungs to bursting capacity,
try holding your breath until you're about to pass out. Then stand up,
walk to the other side of the room, and crash into a beanbag.

Works for my FOAF...

>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>   NOW ALL IS SILENT.  THE TOMBSTONES GLOW    |  - W. Lyman
>   FAINTLY IN THE MOONLIGHT. THE DEAD BREATH  |    excerpted from my nightmares
>   SILENCE THAT CLOSES YOUR QUESTING EAR...   |
>  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Enjoy,
  
   Shckwish!
From: honig@dixie.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: shawn reddy
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:10:41 GMT

 billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring) writes:
>:
>: >IS this some vein attempt at religion?  Don't you have something better to do?
>: >Go baptize someone, for Christ's sake...

Baptism is wimp, dude.  Get with it.  If you're *really* committed,
cut part of your dick off.



--
David Honig

"Don't you believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear." ---Lou
Reed
From: hatter@cs.utexas.edu (John Eichenseer)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:07:17 GMT
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cash.cs.utexas.edu

In article <ringo.721499496@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo) writes:
>Well, our favorite staples are:
>Peter Gabriel: Passion

Yes!

For musician types, I would also recommend most PAt Metheny/Lyle Mays
collaborations, to be sure.

The adventurous few out there must look into Tim Berne (esp. Fractured
Fairy Tales) and John Zorn (esp. Spillane). Classics. Pretty mean stuff,
though. 

yo,
jhno
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: roberta@psych.toronto.edu (Robert Atwood)
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:51:24 GMT


On this topic, Has anyone else seen PROSPERO'S BOOKS yet? Wow, trippy or
what?  Ol' Bill Shakespear must have been into the Ergot or something :-)
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Brian Behlendorf (Vitamin B))
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid activities
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:46:04 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov5.041458.364@cs.uwp.edu> itzenhui@cs.uwp.edu (Steve Itzenhuiser) writes:
>To get your trip started off right, drink some orange juice or other
>citric acid.  It kicks the Acid into your system.  That is unless this is
>a old wive's tale--like my mom ever tried Acid.

	It doesn't get it "into your system" any faster as far as I have
heard, but it does help intensify a trip, by FOAF experience.  ;)  I think
it's primarily the Vitamin C, because I know others who simply pop a few
vitamin pills and feel uppity too.

	Brian


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: machman@hardy.u.washington.edu (the machman)
Subject: Re: diff between Bong/Water Pipe
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:24:32 GMT

Markus.Grunert@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Markus Grunert) writes:

>I wanna know what is the differents between a Bong and a Water Pipe ???

A water pipe is what you tell the guy at the shop you want to buy.
A bong is what you tell your friends you just bought.

						-- dave

-- 
 /'''   The Machman     machman@milton.u.washington.edu    david c carroll
 c-OO                                                                      
    \                     "Big Science.  Hallelujah"
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From: dadmun@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: [anonymous] hash-consumption?
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:59:05 GMT
Reply-To: dadmun@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

In article <1992Nov1.213438.12200@u.washington.edu>, ap.5899@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous) writes:
>Hmmm... After trying hash for the 6th time without result,
>        I'm getting a bit confused. I've tried eating
>        a gram once, with no effects, smoked it 5
>        times (from 0.5 g up to about 1.5 g) with
>        (no results).

>        The hash is OK since the others who've used it
>        at the same time had no complaints...
>
>        Should I just increase the dosage?
>                (like making a 3g+ Spacecake or something?)
>        or what?
>
>        Help much appreciated, as alcohol isn't my thing really...

Well, in my humble opinion, the best way to smoke hash is via hot knives.
In case you don't know, the procedure is as follows:

This works better with an electric stove.   Heat up the largest coil on your
stove and put a couple of knives into the element (coil) so that the knives 
(which you will not want to use for food again) are sticking with the handle
ends slightly elevated above the stove and they kinda bounce when you touch
them.  I don't know how to describe it any better.  You basically want to get
the ends orange hot, or close.  Next, take a waffer thin piece of hash and put
it on the counter near you.  You now need a two liter bottle with the bottom
cut off for a smoke funnel.  You put the open top of the bottle in your mouth
and take the hot knives and manipulate the hash sliver onto on knife.  With 
the hash on the knife and under the open bottom of the 2 liter bottle - squeeze
the other knife onto the hash wafer and inhale.  I think this method gives you
the best high with the least consumption of hash.  You can also do this with
sticky, kind bud, but commercial weed doesn't work well.  It is also better 
to have two people for this, but if you're really jonesin you can manage by
yourself.  Another technique is vaporization, and I will post about that later
when I reread the high times article.

Peace 
Andy

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: PCP/Ketamine
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:20:26 GMT

locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Misquamicus) writes:

>In the united states, as far as I know, Ket isn't approved for human use.

Ketamine is still available for use in humans.  The fact that is has yet 
to be scheduled is probably a result of its relative obscurity.  This
may well change if people continue to rave about its merits.  ...and 
as far as this "as far as I know" stuff is concerned, if you don't know,
don't post.  

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Department of MCD Biology              ...making feet for childrens' shoes.
University of Colorado, Boulder   
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: shawn reddy
Date: 8 Nov 92 08:49:02 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

ulma@coli.uni-sb.de (Ulrich Mayring) writes:
: 
: >Oh - a few hundred sundred deities besides the Christian ones. Or, for no
: >deity at all. 
: 
: >Bill
: 
: Oh, I thought baptism was a Christian thing.

In some Christian churches. However, it is not exclusive to Christians.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.drugs