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From: SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU (Scott Hammer)
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Subject: Tidbits from Rolling Stone
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:46:01 GMT
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Bought the current Rolling Stone last night (the one with Slick Willie
on the cover) and thought y'all might be interested in these tidbits:

o RS endorses Slick Willie for prez -- no surprise there.  The article
  consists of an interview with Clinton, and sidebar commentary by
  Jann Wenner, William Greider, P.J. O'Rourke, and Hunter S. Thompson.
  The interview is interesting.  It is the first clear explication of
  Clinton's views I've seen.  The commentary is about what you'd expect:
  Wenner and Greider just about come all over themselves in their en-
  thusiasm, O'Rourke is amusing/obnoxious, and Thompson is gonzo.  O'Rourke's
  conclusion: "If you're pathetic enough to think that who you vote for can
  change your life, then you might as well vote for Clinton."  Can you say
  "cynical," boys and girls?

o Herion is once again the drug of choice among up and coming alternative
  musicians.  Extensive scary article focusing on the addictions/recoveries/
  deaths among the Lollapalooza bands, and in the Seattle and L.A. alternative
  scenes.

o Rolling Stone, last with the news, as always, reports (in the "Random Notes"
  section) the death of Jeff Porcaro (_without_ the more recent news that his
  death was drug-related) and that the Grateful Dead have cancelled five
  concerts due to Jerry Garcia's exhaustion (the Dead have, in fact, cancelled
  their whole fall tour, and Garcia's health problems are more serious than
  mere exhuastion).  If these guys have such a long lead time between deadline
  and when the magazine hits the streets, you'd think they'd give up on the
  news and stick to features.

o Dave Stewart and Robert Palmer have collaborated on a documentary about the
  Blues called _Deep Blues_.

o At a recent Mojo Nixon gig, Don Henley joined Nixon to sing "Don Henley Must
  Die."  Nixon is quoted as saying that Henley "has balls the size of church
  bells."

o A big shindig is planned for Madison Square Garden in October to celebrate
  Bob Dylan's 30th anniversary as a Columbia recording artist.  Rumored guests
  include the usual suspects: Clapton, Robbie Roberston, George Harrison, etc.

o There's also an interview with Clint Eastwood, which I haven't read yet.

-Scott "Do You Feel Lucky Today, Punk" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:48:22 CDT
From:         USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU
Subject:      Re: Billy Ray fever sweeps the colleges
              15 Sep 1992 11:41:21 -0400 from <ALEVIN@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>

On Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:41:21 -0400 The Chrome-Plated Megaphone of Destiny said:
>The Billy Ray Cyrus number 1 fan says:
>>In the college down the street; students was during the Acky Breaky while
>>walking to their classes.  This is the worst case of Acky Breaky fever that I
>>had ever seen.
>
>Euthanasia is the kindest treatment you could apply to these poor lost souls.
>8) 8) 8)
>
     Agreed!  I'm a college student and have no desire to see my "class" of
humanity further degraded by extremely bad taste in music.

>OMC: I was visiting a friend last week who lives with a grad student from
>Japan. We got to discussing music, as I had noticed his Japanese release of
>_In the Court of the Crimson King_. He had several Japanese discs and I was
>asking him about the types of music that they played. He used the term "New
>Wave" which I haven't heard used in several years. This leads me to the
>question: When did "New Wave" become "Alternative"?
>
>-Adam
     As best I can understand, "New Wave" and "Alternative" are not exactly
one in the same.  "New Wave" is emcompassed by "Alternative", but "Alternative"
is not neccessarily "New Wave" (God, the quotation marks are getting old fast).
New Wave is more of a post-punk movemment than arose from England.  It
consisted of a more technological sound, taking advantage of synthesizers
and drum machines.  Alternative is an almost an all encompasing term used to
signify that which is not mainstream.  It was offered as an alternative
(pardon the redundancy) to that which monopolized the radio.

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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:27:46 CDT
From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: covers

I said:

>>"Bozo Skeleton" by Lard -- I think this is new words to a Ministry
>>   song but I can't remember which one.

Then Dave t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet said:

>Well, seeing as Lard is Ministry+Jello Biafra, I don't know about
>that. Seeing as I have every Ministry album and every Lard album,
>I can see how you can mix the two up  B)

Yup, I knew who Lard are/were.  I just thought that the chords under
Bozo Skeleton sounded familiar, but when I played back my Ministry
albums (I only have 4) I couldn't find it.  So, I suspect I'm
hallucinating.

BTW, what's all this about *every* Lard album.  I thought it was a
one-shot thing like Temple of the Dog.  Do you have the title, etc.
of others?

Thanks,
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 11:37:48 CDT
From:         Dave Hall <USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      Local Scene

     First, I'd like to send thanks to Renato.  That was a very nice piece.
Good luck in your research.
     Second, I'd like to plug a couple of bands to be found way down here in
Birmingham, AL.  While Birmingham is not widely known as a haven for musical
talent like Athens or maybe Seattle (Birmingham can only really claim
Lionel Ritchie, and that only if they could risk the embarrassment) there
are a few bands down here that are worth notice.

Volume: Okay, the name is by no means top rate, but the band is extremely
        talented.  Working mainly on the live circuit (Hopping from one seedy
        bar to another) Volume focuses on a mad frenzy of guitar, feedback
        and distortion.  They're by no means a grungey garage band either.
        Throughout the sonic sound is a good sense of control and composition.
        (If that makes any sense.)

Sugar La La's: A manic combination of bizarre costuming and fantastic music.
               Carrol, the lead singer, has a great range and can belt out
               tunes in a voice sometimes reminiscent of Joplin and other
               times reminiscent of Margo Timmins ()of the Cowboy Junkies).

     Both bands are truly great and shoulkd you ever have the fortune
to be lost, stranded or otherwise find your self in Birmingham, check
'em out.  You can probably catch 'em at the Nick.

                                                     Dave Hall
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:17:35 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Page

On Tue, 8 Sep 1992 09:57:07 PDT Mike Masuda said:
>(Yes, I DO like Zeppelin.  Yes, I think they are extremely overrated.
>But I also think that their combined sound was very special.
>Page's session-man sound
>Jonesy's Motown-based bass
>Bonzo's "modified" James Brown/Motown drum technique.
>Plant's banshee vox (at least, up until Houses of the Holy, when he started
>  to lose his upper register--you can tell, cuz his voice sounds like
>  it was recorded at a slower tape speed.  After Houses, his range was
>  extremely limited, and he couldn't sing the early stuff--he suffers through
>  "Black Dog" and "Over the Hills and Far Away" live.  Too Bad.  Maybe
>  that's why Page is hooking up with another singer who sounds like early
>  Plant for the next solo album.  Plant is pissed.)
I really enjoyed the Honey Drippers album, i think Plant was/is a good singer
and of course Bonzo was incredible, even sampled
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From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Cthulhu

Sonia asks:

>Cthulhu -- Rev. Bob Bob, please don't tell me that's a Zappa lyric.

Nope, it's from _Three_Fisted_Tales_Of_Bob_ -- Readings in the
SubGenius Mythos.  The new (and funniest) thing by Ivan Stang.

Also, H.P. Lovecraft's _Call_Of_Cthulhu_ which is a great Gothic
horror tale.

Actually, I'm jumping the gun a little, since I haven't sent in my
$20 yet to become an ordained minister.  I'm not even sure if I'm
allowed to use the Sacred Name of "Bob" in my title, but since
one of the first duties of a SubGenius minister is to propagate
a heresy and start a new schismatic branch of the church, I thought
I'd get an early start.

Notice to flamers: I don't take this seriously -- if you can't poke
fun at religion, cannibalism, and dead puppies, what can you poke fun at?
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From:         "Julie Spratt" <JLSPRA01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject:      Hello.

Senior Clerk
Phone: 588-6525
yes--I received it.....

Julie---Louisville, KY
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From:         gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      Heavy Metal Station / re: Quest For Sharrock

From: larry@CS.COM at INTERNET 9/9/92 8:06AM (2550 bytes: 50 ln)
Subject: Re: The Quest For Sharrock

>>He then looked in this HUGE book,

>Probably a Phonolog, a worthless piece of crap that stores seem to feel
>the need to exhibit and (pretend to) use.  Was it the 1987 edition? %)

Yeah, that was the name of it, and come to think of it, I've looked in it
before, and it never had what I was looking for. Didn't see the edition.
Sam Goody has this book too, but when I asked the saleswoman what could be
ordered, she pulled out this little teeny weeny book. It seems that in
most stores, it's just there for display, as you said. Yes, I admit it, I
was in Sam Goody, and would have actually bought the Sharrock if I had found
it there...I was that desperate...I would have probably had to fork out 17 or
18 big ones.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

From: Lee=Jenkins%Factory=Sup%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM at INTERNET 9/9/92
Subject: radio, cd prices, sharrock, covers, talking heads

>new station:  there's a station in dallas called zrock -- heavy metal/
>hard rock format.  they have a syndicate here in houston now, which
>is exciting news for me.  on the down side, it's kind of like pop radio
>for metal, which means they play lots of ac/dc, kiss, warrant, and bon
>jovi.  but on the up side they also play some good metal and (this is
>the big bonus) the morning djs play music more than they talk.  what
>a concept!

Hey Lee, we have a HM/HR station here in Baltimore. It's actually based in
Annapolis. It supposedly, quote: "rocks 4 states and the capital district!!",
but I have trouble picking it up sometimes. It definetly beats the hell out
of listening to R.E.M. and Bruce Springsteen-like crap all day on the
regular rock station.

Yeap, lots of of AC/DC/Kiss/Warrant stuff during the day, but they get alot
heavier later at night. They have "Mandatory Metallica" and they "Get the
Led Out" in the evening.

For some reason they insist on playing Black Crowes, Boston, and Rush-like
stuff too which is what I want to get away from.

Was it you who was recommeding the group "Trouble" before?
I think they have a new album out. I heard a song yesterday: something about
".....Sky". Good tune. Any thoughts?

Lee, have you EVER used a capital letter?  :-) :-)

Seeya,
Gary
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From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Quartet/Gospel

>What I am saying is gospel music is universal for different people as long as
>it serves its purpose (serving GOD).

I disagree.  I am a new fan to Aretha Franklin after seeing her special on
the Disney Channel a few weeks back.  The documentary showed the pop side
and the gospel side of her music and, I really loved the stuff she did
with the gospel music.  She's a special talent, and when I heard her in
her natural gospel environment, it made her sound all that better.
I instantly went out and bought "Amazing Grace" on CD.  Incredible voice.

I didn't buy it because it is Christian music--I bought it because it is
good music--something you can slap your knees to and get up and dance to.
I bought it because I needed new influences--Middle Eastern music and
world music is great, but some of it lacks the emotion and raging passion
that turns me on.  Rock is stagnant, with predictable chord changes and
all, that it really bores me to death (unless it's a classic rock tune).
Funk has the groove, but a lot of it is based on JB and Sly and the
advent of drum machines made it possible for anyone with a human brain
and some rhythm knowledge to program a simple funky beat.  Sampling
made it even easier.  With all of this modern music relying on technology,
something human got lost in the music.  Gospel and other forms of music
done in real time have IT, whatever IT is.

The word of God may be pertinent to you, but being a Budddhist, I
don't hold it as high as you would.  The music speaks for itself.
A friend of mine who doesn't speak much English asked about the
music that was playing on the stereo; he said that it was very good
and wondered what the words meant.  It was the Aretha cd.

Mike Masuda

    re: Re:  Quartet/Gospel
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:25:02 EDT
From:         Tim Johnson <ST402711@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Cowards.

>Mindless ranting on how Billy Ray or Vinnie Caliua (sp?) is God,
>is ranting.

  That's Vinnie Caligula.  ancient roman emperor.
had one of those motor control diseases that left him
twitching uncontrollably - this lead to infamous banquet scenes
with the emperor banging about on the plates and glasses with
his silverware.  "Vinnie drummed while rome heartburned"
Is remembered primarily for his innovations in hair care and
gold chains.  Was deified posthumously as the result of a
clerical error.

                           -Tim
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Date:         Sat, 12 Sep 1992 14:48:18 CDT
From:         THERESA BLACKWELL <TBLACKWL@USMCP6.BITNET>
Subject:      "CHICAGO"

 Does anyone have information regarding the antics of the band
 "Chicago"?
 They should be recording their latest now, I suppose...
 What of their percussionist, Danny Seraphine??? I hope some
 people can help me find out about these guys.
 They can't just quit on me.... They're all classically trained
 musicians, who can JAM with Rock/pop/jazz....
 Miss hearing their music!
 Theresa Blackwell
 "G"

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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:23:28 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      RE: soybean curd kirk
              Sep 9, 92 3:43 pm

>Cthulhu -- Rev. Bob Bob, please don't tell me that's a Zappa lyric.

	That's a comic book character who's running for president.

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 12:49:47 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Guitar solos
              Masuda" at Sep 8, 92 9:18 am

>
> Proves you don't need to know theory to have a passion for making
> music. You plink around long enough, and it comes to you naturally.
>
>
Johnny Shines speaking of Robert Johnson:

Just like we're sitting here talking now, the radio be playing.  Robert heard
something on the radio he liked, he never stopped talking with you.  Tonight or
tomorrow he'd pick up his guitar and play the song note-for-note,
chord-for-chord, word-for-word.  He was way before his time.  I know many
chords he never heard of because he couldn't read music, but he could just pick
up a guitar and make them.  He was a genius.
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From: guest@sili (Rockin' Robyn)
Subject: Re: "CHICAGO"
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 02:41:44 GMT

I too am interested in the current information regarding Chicago
(definately a shadow of their former selves) but more importantly
that of former drummer and inspiration for much of my drumming
Danny Saraphine.  E-mail guest@sili.isgs.uiuc.edu,
				Robert Allen Hercey
Danny Seraphine.  E-mail to guest@sili.isgs.uiuc.edu.


:x
ZZ
:quit!

          will your bachelor of arts help you get by?"
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exit



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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:01:19 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Re: Blue reviews/female vocalists
              at Sep 11, 92 9:03 am

>Walt - Michelle Shocked's "God is a Real Estate Developer" is on
>Best of Mountain Stage vol.2 (or something like that).

	Cool song! I also like "Looks like Mona Lisa", and the
Elvis inspired "(Don't you mess around with) My Little Sister".

	Well, I'm off to see GnR tonite in Foxboro. I'm not
really excited about it because I generally hate metal concerts,
and this one is going to be a long one. But, you never know. Maybe
there'll be a riot or something to make it interesting...

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:55:44 EDT
From:         Scott Hammer <SCOTH@WMVM1.CC.WM.EDU>
Subject:      Ewan McCall (was RE: need train song recommendations)
              10 Sep 1992 19:43:58 GMT from <chem91@ELROY.UH.EDU>

On Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:43:58 GMT 'Bill Harrison 713-743-2789' said:
>
. . . stuff deleted . . .
>
>* The radio "docudrama" by the Brit folk singer Ewan McCall/director Charles
>Parker(?) entitled "The Ballad of John Axon", first broadcast in ca. 1958. It
>refers to the heroics of a driver who stayed at the regulator of his run-away
>locomotive and died in a crash as he tried to stop the trian. It's a classic
>(IMHO) of radio drama, and has at least half a dozen McCall original songs
>written for the broadcast. Again, recording history unknown.
>
Speaking of the late Ewan McCall, right before he died, he wrote a song
called "The Joy of Living," which is perhaps the most beautiful/sad/poign-
ant song I've ever heard.  I've only heard it performed by Garnet Rogers, who
won't record it (he feels he can't do it justice -- he's wrong) and by
a friend (the Staunton, VA folksinger Bill Harouff) whose reading of the
song I don't care for.  The question: has anybody recorded this song?  If so,
where?

-Scott "Peggy Seeger was Ewan McCall's Wife" Hammer
 College of William and Mary
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:32:00 EDT
From:         EdD tHe MaDd <DERLECT@CLEMSON.BITNET>
Subject:      Thar he BLOWS, The Great White Plebe!

On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:34:40 CDT "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET> said:
> On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 09:18:00 EDT EdD tHe MaDd said:
> >Ruxpin is gone
> >  I must sadly say
> >And no plebes about
> >  to slam today...
> >Exept this guy who
> >  who loves Billy Ray...
> >                           is he gay?
> >
> Why doesn't everyone lay off the Billy Ray Cyrus fan there is music for everyo
n
> e and he chooses to like that, and everyone knocking his musical taste is
> getting old, he may not like miles or jimi but he's not knocking them all the
> time......L.W.


OH JOYOUS DAY
  A SHINING SUN RAY

Can you Believe:
  A PLEIB! A PLEIB!
Hath reared his head
  (or the other way 'bout instead)

Bringing the list
   to wit, the gist:

An abusive defence
  insensate deference
Of fans all around
  Of the Billy Ray Clown.

Oh crying Heart
  from your senses depart
And defend this talentless scum!

Or admit disgrace
  and loose not your face
Buried way deep up yer bum.

                                           Love and Kisses
                                           EdD tHe MaDd.
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:30:46 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      covers

Mike B. says, play old Beatles.  You know, it's very likely.  I've got
a Beatles fake book that we've been rumaging through, and some songs
work pretty well. (Others, whew, man those guys could *sing*).  Fwiw,
I consider "old Beatles" to be redundant (but I know what you mean).
It's likely we'll do an "old" one and a "new" (ie. acid-etched) one.

Russ
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From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: covers
              8 Sep 1992 12:31:11 EDT from <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

Russ,

You want covers?  When my band "Feast of Fools" was around, we did
some great tunes that got people up and dancing:

Time Warp --Rocky Horror Picture Show
Our Lips are Sealed --the Go-Gos
Friction --Television
The Syufy Theatres opening theme --who knows?
Hot Dog --Led Zeppelin (only if people asked for it)
Heat Miser --from those animated Christmas specials
Something Else --Eddie Cochran

Have fun!
MIke Masuda
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From: bulm2533@hgc.edu (steven bulmer)
Subject: Re: mixer
Organization: The Hartford Graduate Center
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:01:40 GMT

>  I'd have to go home and dig through some stuff, but I think maybe
>the new Mackie boards might be of use to you, Russ. I'll try to remember
>to get back to you with a model number and a list price.
>  Jeff ("n.n.")
>
Dammit, Jeff always comes up with some astute technical or political
info 10 seconds before me!  As I just posted before reading this,
I can give you some info on the Mackie 1202.

HEY CAROL, tell us about the Reastatics!

Tbass
Steve B


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