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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Oakland as King-Maker?
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:46:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: lynx.rv-pp9
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep30.155839.5988@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>Of course, what d'ya expect from seven team divisions? 

Personally, I think seven team divisions are wimpy.  So are six team divisions,
and so are eight team divisions.  _I_ think we should just have one 28 team
league next year. Screw the expanded playoffs, screw that joke of a "world"
series.  162 games.  3 at each opponent, 3 hosting each opponent.  Winner take
all.  Scrap those stupid whiffing pitchers.  Everyone on equal footing.

That's the kind of world _I_ want to live in.

-- 
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-"The fatal tendency of mankind to leave off thinking about a thing when it is--
--no longer doubtful is the cause of half their errors.  The cause of the other-
---half can be attributed to playing Jose Offerman at short." - John Stuart Mill
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
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Date: Wednesday, 30 Sep 1992 08:17:08 EST
From: Paul So <ACPS7118@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject:    The Toronto Blue Jays

Did anyone out there watch the game yesterday, they kind of almost blew themsel
ves out because of jimmy key pitching, the jays gave key a 3-0 lead then the to
p of the next inning key gave boston a 2 runs in, to make the score 3-2.  Well
the Jays have a magic number of 3 and a 2.5 lead over the Mil. Because, Mil. be
at the Seatle Mar. yesterday. Oh well the Jays can clinch the east by friday if
 they win all the games until friday. if Mil. loses 1 game then the jays can cl
inch it on thursday.  The Jays are waiting until Guzman pitches then they will
decide on the pitching role in the playoff, right now it's Jack Morris first th
en Cone next, then it's either going to be Key or Guzman. The Jays may have  a
good chance of making it into the world series this year, next year will be a w
hole different team as the expansion draft will happen next year.  The key play
ers they should sign again, are the starters.  The draft will mean that 3 or 4
players from each team in the division will be given up.  The jays have a lot o
f free agents next year.  Cone will probably go to New York Yankees next year.
Has a 1 year contract with the jays.  If the jays win the world series they wil
l have a record of 4 playoffs 1 world series in 15 years. Not bad.... If you ha
ve any suggestions about my comments feel free to post me......

my node is      Acps7118@RyeVam.Ryerson.CA   It's Paul So


                                                    Later all....

May the best team win the world series.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Sheffield is NL MVP
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:43:30 GMT

In article <6297@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> genetic+@pitt.edu (Dr. Dave) writes:
>Thus spake fester@island.COM (Mike Fester):
>>>
>>>But Pendleton is *not* having as good a season as Ken Caminiti.  
>>
>>Doesn't appear to be true, either. They have about the same SLG + OBP, and
>>Terry's done it playing about 28% more. Also, he's a very good fielder in 
>>the worst fielder's park in the majors. The Astrodome's one of the best. So,
>>same production rate, MORE playing time, better glove... I'd take Terry.
>
>Uh, Mike, if AFC is the best hitter's park, and the Astrodome is the worst,
>what does that do to your "same production rate" claim?  You can't have it
>both ways; if Terry gets credit for Caminiti's defensive park advantage, I
>think you have to give Caminiti credit for the huge offensive difference
>between their respective home parks.

A lot more playing time can help pout there. He (Pendleton) has played about 
28% more than Caminiti.

Mike
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From: yajima@nttcom.ntt.jp (YAJIMA Hiroshi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball,soc.culture.japan
Subject: Japan Central League
Date: 27 Sep 92 23:42:11 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: NTT Network Information Systems Labs. Musashino, Tokyo

Japan Central League Standing ( Through games on Sunday September 27th)

                        W   L   T   Pct.   GB
Hanshin Tigers         64  56   2  .533    --
Yakult Swallows        64  57   1  .529    0.5
Yomiuri Giants         65  60   0  .520    1.5
Hiroshima Carp         60  63   0  .488    5.5
Taiyo Whales           59  65   1  .476    7.0
Chunichi Dragons       57  68   0  .456    9.5
----------------
  To my great regret, beloved Yakult Swallows lost the game to Hanshin Tigers
by the score of 6-3 Sunday night at Tokyo's Jingu Stadium while Chunichi 
Dragons beat hateful Yomiuri Giants by the score of 5-2 at the Tokyo Dome.

------- Hiroshi
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From: dfl@math.wayne.edu (David Frohardt-Lane)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Sheffield is NL MVP
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:16:19 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University Math Department, Detroit

In article <1992Oct6.182056.1015@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.235038.9656@cs.wayne.edu> dfl@math.wayne.edu (David Frohardt-Lane) writes:
>>This is absurd.  OBP is not attempting to measure a player's overall
>
>Now, it's no more "absurd" than saying "the problem with SLG is that it doesn't
>include walks", now is it?

But walks *should* be included in slugging (as I explained below), and
homers shouldn't be a part of OBP.

>>value or anything like that.  It's simply the percentage of the time a
>>player doesn't make an out.  Why should homers count more in OBP than
>>walks?  Slugging, OTOH, is measuring how much a player can move runners
>>along (and how far he can get by himself), and walks do move other
>>players along.
>
>Sometimes.


You're right: only sometimes.  So walks shouldn't count for very much in
SLG, but they should still count a little bit.
>>That's probably true, but most teams in the majors (if not all) need OBP
>>more than they need SLG, so therefore OBP is more valuable.
>
>?? It depends on your team. As both contribute to scoring (and BTW, for the
>most part, they are the same thing) it would depend on your team's needs. 
That's what I said: It depends on the team needs.  But for most teams,
the way the game is played today, OBP is needed more than SLG.
Therefore, OBP is more valuable than SLG.

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From: harold@cc.gatech.edu (Harold C. Forbes)
Subject: Re: minnie minoso
Reply-To: harold@cc.gatech.edu (Harold C. Forbes)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:14:07 GMT

In article <92273.231950RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:
>who is this minnie minoso dude, why did the white sox bring him out of
>a twelve year retirement to give him eight at bats, why did they then
>bring him out of his second retirement four years later to give him
>two more at bats, and are there any plans to bring him back again, now
>in his seventies (well, soon to be) ?


They keep beinging him back to that he can claim to be the only player to
have batted in a zillion decades. They stopped the Sox from doing this in
the 1990's as it makes a farce out of the game. 

The solution would be to have the Dodgers sign him as he would be one of their
top hitters and fielders based on the 1992 team. Then this won't be a farce!

FORBES, HAROLD C.   N5JCM
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: steph@cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: *** 1992 Prediction Results Award Show ***
Keywords: Hatred of the Giants, Dodgers, Mets, and Cubs helps.
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:21:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: pegasus.steph.718406519
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

In <17929@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Frog Baseball Huckabay) writes:
[...]
>Scoring is like golf 
[...]

>"Seer" Stephenson    36              36          72.00  
[...]

36 out and 36 back.  Not bad!  First time I've ever reached par.

(Good thing I picked the Braves :->)
--
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  "It is considered good to look wise, especially when not 
   overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
From: bic@piglet.mmwb.ucsf.edu (Bruce Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: A's logo
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:28:55 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

bprisco@shearson.com (Bobby Prisco) writes:


>In article <1992Sep25.130013.4594@engage.pko.dec.com> kuras@aiag.enet.dec.com () writes:
>>
>>Please do not flame me if I'm off base or not 100% accurate, but I'll make
>>an attempt to explain the logo.  As I recall, it originated in the days of
>>Connie Mack & the Philadelphia Athletics.  Someone, perhaps a writer/
>>cartoonist, suggested that the Athletics were not all that athletic, given a
>>poor won/loss record.  In his commentary, the cartoon of an elepant was
>>included.
>>
>>I guess the A's front office of that time, who were able to "take a joke" and
>>see the humor in it, liked it enough to adopt it as the official logo of the 
>>team.

>>What's also funny is that Finley changed the elephant to a donkey
>>	during his years because he wasn't a Republican, apparently...



>You guys got it all wrong. a manager from the "real" league back then made
>a comment about the A's looking like a bunch of white elephants.....
>so goes the logo!

John McGraw of the (then) New York Giants was indeed the manager.  The
Athletics and Giants would again be rivals in the Bay Area (at least
for a while :( ).

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: NL ROY: More Fuel for Debate
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:04:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.023825.1269@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_copeab@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>
>Well, I would consider Bonds worth 5/9ths a run a game more than
>Pendleton (basically just subtract the higher RC/27 from the lower,
>divide by 9 (unless Bonds can take up 2 batting slots :-)) and that
>will be the player's *rough* advantage in runs/game).

If this is what the RC/27 numbers read, it is laughable!  Bonds is good,
but he's not *that* good.

Cheers,
-Valentine
-- 
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Clemens four Cy Young!
From: karlf@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Karl Fengler)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:12:27 GMT
Subject: Re: Gruber (Re: Carter vs. Fielder for MVP)
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball

Do I understand this right? You do not like Kelly Gruber?

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From: dsbauer@eos.ncsu.edu (DOUGLAS SCOTT BAUER)
Subject: Re: PIRATES AGIAIN!!!
Originator: dsbauer@c00381-346dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: dsbauer@eos.ncsu.edu (DOUGLAS SCOTT BAUER)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 02:45:00 GMT


I'm glad that someone other than myself had confidence in the 
supposedly washed-up Bucs.  It seemed that I was the only one 
this year that did not think the Mets were invincible.  Buying 
a team of high-priced free agents never works.  Thank goodness
Barry learned that from Bobby's incredible mistake.  Maybe he'll
be around for a fourth straight next year!!!!!!!

The Braves better watch out.  Bonds has made a committment to winning
and this will be the year he breaks out of his NLCS slump and 
shows America why he is by far the best player in baseball.

Pittsburgh Pirates--1992 World Series Champions!
From: rom@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Rommy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Cubs 800 number
Date: 30 Sep 1992 23:24:08 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: rom@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

Could someone e-mail me the Cubs ticket office number.  The 800 number if they 
have one.

Thanks

Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: dave@snitor.sni.ca (Dave Till)
Subject: Re: Monthly Owners are idiots thread
Organization: People Frustrated With The A's Inability To Beat The Brewers
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:56:44 GMT

In article <Bv5BHD.84q@encore.com> jlundy@bilbo.encore.com
(Joe "Generic Ignominious Nickname" Lundy) writes:
>The announcement last night on ESPN that the realignment has been nullified
>came as no surprise.  They do not realize that they are going to ruin the game
>with decisions like this.

I don't think it matters what division the Cards and Cubs are in.  Unless
the hard-line owners are removed from the saddle, there won't be any
baseball in 1993 anyway.  (I wonder:  if the lockout lasts any length of
time, will the owners of the new NL teams sue?)

>Does this mean that any even mildly controversial decision will go into 
>"committee" and be decided upon "in the best interests of making money?"

Judging by past performance:  yes.

>I think the only hope is to hire a guy like David Stern, basketball genius, to
>successfully mediate and help reduce some of the friction between owners and
>players.

Not possible.  The same hardline owners who want to turn the clock back
to 1970 are the ones who will decide on a new commissioner.  I wouldn't
be surprised if they just didn't bother to hire a new commissioner.

--Dave "rather pessimistic this morning" Till
e-mail path:  dave@silver.sni.ca or dave@snitor.uucp
(or try dwtill@watyew.waterloo.edu)
From: demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Big news for the Angels! :-)
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:19:05 GMT
Organization: CSE Dept., UC San Diego


In article <1aakobINNhv1@caldera.usc.edu>, dzappala@caldera.usc.edu (Daniel Zappala) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> The Angels unveiled a new logo this morning, which, by radio reports,
|> is a "stylized version of the old CA logo, with red letters on a teal
|> background."  The announcer said it looked something like a spiffy
|> Colorado Rockies logo.  
|> 
|> (I like the Rockies' cap, and was tempted to buy one when I saw it.)
|> 
|> No word on whether this includes new uniforms, as well as hats and
|> stationery.


Apparently the Angels will have a new logo, new uniforms and
new announcers next year.

Hint to Whitey:
Get some new *players*

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From: z_copeab@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: A Case Study in "Clutch Pitching": Allan Anderson
Date: 5 Oct 92 10:09:38 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <1992Oct5.050131.8518@leland.Stanford.EDU>, claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
> For this case study, I will use Allan Anderson, who pitched for the Minnesota
> Twins from 1986 to 1991.  He is a perfect example for my theory, as you can
> see below.  Anderson is known for his career mediocrity (4.11 ERA) but for one
> supposedly spectacular season (1988) when he led the league in ERA (2.45).
> My assertion is, although Anderson did indeed have a better year in '88 than
> he ever did in the other years of his career, the difference isn't so great
> that he "should" have had the 2.45 ERA.  Instead, I think the evidence suggests
> that he was plain lucky.


	It'll take me a couple of days to scrounge up my 1990 Elias, but I
think there is an article in there which deals with Anderson, and shows how
pitchers like him (a hit an inning, but a low ERA) are disasters waiting to 
happen.

Brandon Cope


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From: jimdean@bnr.ca (Jim Dean)
Subject: Re: Can of corn?
Originator: jimdean@bcrks81
Reply-To: jimdean@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:04:50 GMT


In article <6964@transfer.stratus.com>, jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann) writes:
> In article <olt.718040143@elwood.isgs.uiuc.edu>  
> olt@elwood.isgs.uiuc.edu (Scott Olt) writes:
> > Does anyone know the origin of the phrase 'can of corn',
> > used to describe an easily-caught fly ball?
> > 
> 
> I don't know if he originated it, but ex-Pirate broadcaster
> Bob Prince certainly made it famous.  In one game, he called
> a fly ball by an opponent a can of corn. The fielder (it may
> have been Matty Alou, but this was a LONG time ago so my
> memory is a bit shaky here) dropped it.  Folks from all around 
> begain mailing cans of corn to Prince.

I'd hate to be the one to have to swear *who* originated the expression
but this is the story I've heard:

Whichever broadcaster started the expression was familiar with at
least one old-time general store which kept their cans of corn on the
top shelf. If a customer asked for a can of corn, or other article
from the top shelf, the shopkeeper used a broom stick to knock the can
off the top shelf causing it to tumble down nicely where an easy catch
could be made.  Thus "can of corn" implies "easy fly ball".

You pick the store, the store-keeper, and the broadcaster to suit
yourself.  And why was corn on the top shelf? Why not rutabagas?

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From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (Kurt "Some Guy" Bose)
Subject: Re: GRIFFIN BETTER THAN FIRST THOUGHT
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 17:44:01 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep30.111332.2141@bvc.edu> mikef@bvc.edu writes:
>I CANNOT ACCEPT THAT ALFREDO GRIFFIN IS THE WORST SS IN THE BIGS.  AS A 
>DODGER FAN, I PROMISE YOU THAT WE WOULD TAKE HIM BACK OVER OFFERUPANERROR 
>ANY DAY.  IT SEEMS THAT THE DODGERS WON A WORLD SERIES WITH GRIFFIN UP THE 
>MIDDLE AND I ADMIRED HIS TENACITY PLAYING WITH A BROKEN CHEEK BONE LAST 
>YEAR.  THE MAN IS A WINNER, EVEN IF NOT BLESSED WITH GREAT TALENT.

Er...this guy doesn't speak for *all* Dodgers fans, I hope...and Jays fans, I
suggest you give this guy Griffin back ASAP if he's serious.  Hey, you could
even throw in a Caps Lock key...

-- 
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-"The fatal tendency of mankind to leave off thinking about a thing when it is--
--no longer doubtful is the cause of half their errors.  The cause of the other-
---half can be attributed to playing Jose Offerman at short." - John Stuart Mill
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: NL ROY: More Fuel for Debate
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 01:03:07 GMT

In article <6638@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> genetic+@pitt.edu (Dr. Dave) writes:

>But if this is true, then replacing Bonds with an average left fielder like
>Daryl Boston or Kevin Bass would cost the Pirates somewhere between 150 and
>200 runs on offense over the season.  The difference between highest-scoring
>team and lowest-scoring team in the league is only 150 runs.  You're saying
>that the Pirates would have been the lowest-scoring team of recent memory
>(about 450 runs, resulting in a record of about 65-97), just by replacing
>Bonds with an average LF?  That's very hard to believe.

But isn't it believable that Bonds might contribute almost 80 runs to his
team?  This is what you get if you multiply the difference of his RC/27 with
the average with the number of outs he made divided by 27.  (77, actually.)

===============================================================================
GO CALIFORNIA ANGELS!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
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From: ken@mizar.tcs.com (Ken Emery)
Subject: Re: Inevitable changes
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:06:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.112633.2251@vixvax.mgi.com> eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com (Steve Eiswirth) writes:
>Local (St. Paul-Minneapolis) columnist Pat Reusse has a very interesting piece
>in the paper today.  The gist of it was the following:
>
>Now that the owner's have their lackey installed as pseudo commish, and the
>TV contract is coming up for renewal, you can count on the following three
>network-influenced changes to baseball:
>
>	1.  Interleague play
>	2.  The return of the 156 game schedule
>	3.  Wildcard playoff system
>
Stuff deleted.
>
As for number 1 I think the idea sucks big time.  It would take away 
from the world series and all-star game.  Look at basketball, hockey, and
football (more so in the former two than the latter) you get teams playing 
for the championship which may have already played a game(s) which can 
be quite lopsided.

If they could somehow get the schedule in I think shortening the 
season is a good idea.  However I don't know why the owners would 
go for it as they lose 6 revenue generating dates.

The great thing about baseball is that if a team reaches the postseason
they have accomplished something period!!  This is not true in any of 
the other major american team sports.  Adding more teams would only 
lengthen the playoff schedule and how could all the games be televised 
so they would not conflict with each other.  Also more playoffs would 
lengthen the season even if 6 games are removed from the schedule 
(assuming 7 game series).

I think if anything major is going to be done on the restructuring 
of baseball the national and american leagues should be junked and 
and 4 regional leagues should be set up.  They should have 8 teams 
each and play 154 game schedules.  Only the league champions would 
advance to the postseason.  Obviously 4 teams would have to be added 
to accomodate this setup.  For more info see the book "THE NATIONAL 
PASTIME".

bye,
ken emery 
internet: ken@tcs.com

>Any reactions?
From: sgs@milton.u.washington.edu (Steven Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Birthdays
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:58:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Sep28.015810.7993
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Baseball Birthdays

September 28
Jack Fournier, 1892
Grant Jackson, 1942
Mario Guerrero, 1950
Dick Gernert, 1928
Lawton "Whitey" Witt, 1895
Todd Worrell, 1959
Al Evans, 1916
Charlie Kerfeld, 1963

--Steve
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