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From: mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok)
Subject: Do You Want to Receive NHL Stats?
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:04:13 GMT

Hi!  OK. I promise this will be the last post on this topic.
If you are interested on receiving NHL Player stats for the 1992-1993
on a periodic basis you must let me know by Tuesday afternoon before
4pm (cancel the last post that mentioned 7:30pm).  If you want to be
on the mailing list for the stats, let me know before the deadline.
As of now, I am including NHL CLUB, GOALS< ASSISTS, POINTS, PIM, PP,
SH<, GW, GT for players.  Other categories may be created if the
information to me is available.  Stats will be mailed every time I
update my database for the nhl games for that day.  I also have many
others stats for each player currently playing in the nhl from years
past, so if you have any special request for other information let me
know.  
Thank you!

Matt Militzok -NHL STATS PROJECT 92-93
From: paien00@DMI.USherb.CA (NICOLAS-MAXIME PAIEMENT)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Shayne Corson
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:35:53 GMT
Organization: Ascot Boyz & JAM Head-Quarters

In article <92272.160147JER108@psuvm.psu.edu> JER108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>   Where in the depth chart did Corson play last year and who with? Does any
>one remember his stats?
>                          Thanx
>                              John E. Runski
>                                   <jer108@psuvm>

I know that he played with Montreal but for the stats... do not remember!



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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: France, je vous remercie pour l'election d'Anti-Christ
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 05:53:55 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer) writes:

-
- >>>>> "Dave" == Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca)
-
- Dave> Remember! Jesus Saves!!
-
- ...but Gretzky gets the rebound!!
-
- /Lars
- --
- Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
- CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin

Well, here's one for the hockey people. ;-)

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Canadians: send a clear message to the government!  ON Oct. 26, Abstain
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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell ("Droopy"))
Subject: AHL Preview -- Utica Devils
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:56:50 GMT

UTICA DEVILS
===========================================
1991-92 INFO
RECORD:		34-40-6
PTS, PLACE:	74, 4th
GOALS FOR:	268
GOALS ALLOWED:	313
TEAM GAA:	3.88
			
LEADING SCORER:		Jim Dowd, 59 pts
LEADING GOAL SCORER:	Jeff Christian, 27
LEADING ASSISTS:	Dowd, 42
TOP GOALIE:		Doug Dadswell (3.44)

1992 PLAYOFFS
  1st round:		lost to Binghamton, 4-0


Utica will be getting a huge infusion of young talent which should
make this team competitive. Their offense should be potent with the likes
of Jarrod Skalde, Scott Pellerin, Dowd and David Emma. Goaltending will
be deep with Martin Brodeur, Doug Dadswell, Corey Schwab and Chad Erickson.
However, the Devils defense may be the team's soft spot as they 
lack depth. Losing bruiser Jamie Huscroft will not help the depth
or the physical play. The Devils did make enlarge the Aud's ice
surface to the regulation 200 x 85. 

PREDICTION: 2nd place, 88 pts.

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Clarkson '95					CHAMPIONS
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rec.sport.hockey's AHL contact	      ALSO: 1981, 1986 AND 1989 CHAMPS
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From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: AHL Preview -- Rochester Americans
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:42:24 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Oct5.153422.6987@cs.rochester.edu> ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson) writes:
>
>Just a quick comment that the Amerks have a rookie whose name escapes
>me, but he was captain at Wisconsin, apparently. Three points in his
>first game last week, and a very pleasant surprise. Perhaps some of
>the Badgers out there can fill us in?
>

I think you're thinking of Doug "The Viper" MacDonald, but I'm
probably wrong the way my day is going.  Don't have any stats or info
on him handy, however.  

Anyone care to back me up?  Maybe the esteemed Sabres list contact,
Jeff Horvath?




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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: PREDICTIONS ANYONE?
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:43:31 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando

caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca wrote:
>In article <92277.145338RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>, <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>> preseason predictions poll.  Poll to be taken from now 'til Oct. 11, 1992 -
>> results to be posted on Oct. 13, 1992.  E-mail me a list of your predictions
>> for each divison for the '92-'93 season as follows :

I'd like to encourage everyone to use e-mail as requested. Two reasons: (1)
seeing someone else's opinion might influence yours, and (2) it clutters up
the net with a lot of articles with just lists of team names.

Tom
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From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Hawks News
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:50:09 GMT

From the $.50 _Chicago Tribune_ today:

Keith Brown goes under the knife for that separated left shoulder.
He is expected to be out until after Jan 1. Same shoulder he injured
last season, forcing him to be out for an extended period.

The loss of Brown may mean the Hawks will be carrying eight defensemen
at the beginning of the season.


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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Manon not drafted, right?
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 01:51:32 GMT

In article <1a32icINN428@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:
>
>Manon hasn't been drafted.  So, she can't play for the lightning on the
>NHL level.  However, they could sign her to an ihl contract, but they
>still dcouldn't bring her up to play on the NHL level, right?
>
>So, next year, she could be drafted by another team.

You don't have to be drafted to play in the NHL if you are a North
American.  You may have to be drafted currently if you are a European,
although I'm not exactly certain about this...the reason for the 
imposition of the rule was so that there would be a more even 
distribution of the excess over-draft-age European talent...and
so NHL clubs wouldn't be bidding against each other for the
talent.

Gerald
From: TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu (Todd Bobenrieth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Wayne's back
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:06:18 GMT
 <1992Sep25.140314.18221@shearson.com>
Organization: Penn State University

There is one part of your Mario critique that will have to be changed...
you said he doesn't mind acting like a duck shot out of the air when checked,
and now with the new rule, he would be penalized for doing such, not putting
down Mario or anything.
From: gp2f+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gary James Patalsky)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: NEW PENS MAIL LIST
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:13:38 GMT
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


If you wanted to be on the list, but haven't received anything yet,
please send me a note.

Thanks
Gary
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From: bimson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (GREG)
Subject: Re: Where were you in '72?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:12:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.152125.24508@sol.UVic.CA>, bsteinke@ugly.UVic.CA (Brad  Steinke) writes...
>In article <1992Sep28.231535.16684@idacom.hp.com> kenl@idacom.UUCP (Ken Loo) writes:
>>Twenty years ago today, September 28th, 1972, the face of hockey changed
>>forever.  It was also probably the last time that a great majority of 
>>people in our country felt DAMN PROUD to be Canadians!
>>
>>In honor of Paul Henderson's famous goal, I'd like to ask a couple of
>>questions:
>>
>>1) Do you remember where you were on this date in '72 when Henderson
>>clinched the series for Team Canada?  This question probably has little
>>significance to the American net readers, but I'd be curious to see if
>>any respond.
>>
>Being only 2 I really don't remember, but knowing how much hockey my dad
>watch I know I was watching the game whether I remeber or not . :)

I am an American, and I want to give this one a shot.  I also was 
about 2 yrs old, but once I got into hockey, wanted to know more, etc. 

If I am not mistaken, and please laugh me off the net if I am wrong,
the format to the series was first four games in Canada, last four in 
USSR (CCCP), meaning the game was played in Moscow.  I could, of 
course, be confusing this with the WHA - CCCP series a little later.
> 
> 
>>
>>2) In all likilihood, Paul Henderson will never make it to the Hall of
>>Fame based on his stats.  However, given his piece of immortality
>>in hockey history, does anyone feel he deserves to be there?
>>
>Probably right, but he may have put up better numbers if we had not forgotten
>his acheivments before that goal/series.  He was amoung the best players in
>the league at that time or he would not have m,ade the team.  I remeber reading
>somewhere that he quit because everyone only remebered him for the goal.
>I don't think he should be in there just on that goal, but there should be
>so9me sort of exhibit about the '72 series, and he should have a rather
>large part of it.  He was one of the most important  players during the
>sreies.  (He did score the winning goal in a previous game)
> 
>Brad.
> 
I don't think his stats were 'great', maybe good.  The Hall of Fame 
should put a little more emphasis on international hockey, too.  One 
soviet in the hall after all these years?  It's definitely good to see 
them playing in the NHL.

Greg

Sorry about the comments yesterday on the Red Wings and Murray.  It 
seems like it will take forever for the Caps to win the Cup, mainly 
because of bad coaching.
From: etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Jarmo Myllys
Date: 6 Oct 92 10:05:48 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden

In article <6866@kielouta.fi> cstila@uta.fi (Timo Laitinen) writes:
>In article <6865@kielouta.fi> cspamy@uta.fi (Pasi Myllym{ki) writes:
>>Why super-goalie Jarmo Myllys is nowadays here in Finland (team:KooKoo).
>>In my opinion he didn't get change to show how super he is.
>>
>>Am I absolutely wrong ?
>>
>You are right!!!!! NHL coaches and managers prefer their own goalkeepers
>(Canadian or USA). That's why for example Petr Briza, Jaromir Sindel
>and Oldrich Svoboda are in SM-LIIGA, Finland - Not in money circus in NHL.
>
>Am I absolutely right?
>
North America has produced a lot of top quality goalies themselves
and there really hasn't been any need for European goalies, even
if they have been 'great' in our (Europeans') eyes. 

Also, the goalie's task is a bit different on small rinks, sometimes acting
like a third defenseman as opposed to the European goalie who is usually a bit
more stationary. This has been an advantage for N American goalies over
European goalies since they're used to this from the minor leagues.

European defensemen and forwards have been/are attractive for NHL teams in the
sense that they are usually more skilled in passing and skating than the
typical NHL enforcer. There has not been any such advantage (quite naturally)
for the European goalie over the N American goalie.

This is just my 0.02 SKR why there hasn't been a whole lot of European goalies
in NHL and I know I am absolutely right! :-)

---

We do have one Swedish goalie in NHL right now, Philadelphia's Tommy
Soderstrom. And while speaking of him, I have some reports to make.

Tommy has undergone two heart-surgeries after that the Flyer's doctor
detected heart rhythm irregularities (don't expect me to explain the
medical stuff, I don't even know it in Swedish). Anyway, the first
12-hour surgery failed but the second one seemed to have worked out,
Tommy reported on Swedish radio yesterday. Tommy will have to
rest for 3 weeks now before he can start playing hockey again.

Staffan

BTW: Timo, shouldn't you be in Malmo coaching your team right now? :-)
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From: coulman@cs.Usask.CA (Randy Coulman)
Subject: Rookie Determination
Reply-To: coulman@cs.Usask.CA
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:42:01 GMT

Does anyone know the exact rules for determining whether or not a player is
a rookie?  A quote from something official would be nice.  I believe it is
something about no more than K NHL games played total, no more than M games
played in any one season, and no older than N years old.

I think M is 20 or 25 and N is 26, but I don't know for sure.

Thanks,
Randy
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From: kim@porgy.uucp (Isaac Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Wayne's back
Date: 28 Sep 1992 04:51:18 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: porgy.ucsd.edu

In article <6379@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> jrmst8+@pitt.edu (Joseph R Mcdonald) writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.163219.1729@col.hp.com> smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
>><RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>>   I agree, but don't be a dick about it!!!!!  If Mario's back goes out again,
>>> people are going to laugh at us Penguins fans and not show any support so
>>> give Mr. Gretzky some credit, even though we don't like him very much.  After
>>> all, he does have a lot of numbers, and he is one of the best, whether we like
>>> him or not.
>>>                       -Robbie Po
>>  
>>Question is, *why* don't you like him?  Are you just being a provincial
>>dick, or what?  
>>
>>Walter
>
>I respect Wayne's hockey achievement immensely.  But there are many reasons
>to dislike Wayne Getzky personally, especially in Pittsburgh.  Remember 1990
>when Wayne was the ONLY player to skip the NHL All-Star game practice in whcih
>15000 fans paid to see?  Is it a coincidence that this happened in Pittsburgh?
>
>More recently (this week), he claims that his back injury is the result of the
>year after year pounding he has taken for all those years.  Was he laughing
>when he said this?  I was when I heard it.  *I* have taken more hard hits
>at a hockey game than Wayne has.  He's untouchable on the ice, and when Joel
>Otto had the nerve to hit him in the Canad Cup last year, it marked the first
>time in his career that he was hit with any real force.

Actually, it was Gary Suter, and it was not that hard of a hit.  Wayne
has been hit much harder (the one I sort of remember was an open ice hit
in the early 80's by some Leaf, I think).  He has played professional 
hockey since 1978, and even though he has avoided the corners most of his 
life, playing all of those games (over 900) have had to take a toll on his body.

As soon as I hear Wayne was going to be out indefinitly due to back problems,
I knew the calls would be coming for Gary Suter's head AGAIN by those
few uninformed and unknowledgable King's fans.  I heard many calls on
XTRA 690 (the King's play-by-play station) insisting it was Suter's check in
the Canada Cup that caused Wayne's present back problems.  In the press 
conference announcing Wayne's problem,  Wayne and the doctors 
stated that his present injury had NOTHING to do with any specific past 
incident - which was a direct referal to the Suter hit.

Wayne said after that Canada Cup game that the Suter check: " was not a
purposeful intent to injury.  Gary Suter is not that kind of player."
Wayne was protecting the puck from Suter with his body in the corner.  
As Wayne was about to go past Suter, Gary played the man and bumped 
Wayne from behind.  Wayne did fall heavily into the boards, but it was
primarily because he was not expecting to be bumped.  Wayne did hurt
his back on that play, and it seemed to affect him for much of last years
season.  

>Dean

Isaac (kim@bull.ucsd.edu)
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From: vv1@csri.toronto.edu (Marc J. Ouellette)
Subject: Women's Hockey (was Re: Manon)
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 5 Oct 92 05:13:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.110759.12913@access.usask.ca> (Gerry Gryschuk) writes:
>[...] Although I know there must still be
>discrimination at various levels of hockey organizations in Canada(forcing the
>Women's Team Canada to wear pink rather than the traditional red is a good
>indication of this) the fact that Manon reached the level she did(before her
From what I've heard, the colour pink was chosen to protest the non-inclusion
of women's hockey as an Olympic sport.
>invitation to camp) also indicates that the barriers to women may not be as
>big as we presume(on the other hand this may just prove she's so good that
>she overcame the discrimination).
I don't think that there is that much discrimination.  Lack of funding and
organization, certainly.
>seperate event as will occur now(I have no doubt that a woman will make the
>NHL in the future).
I do, unless she is a goalie.  I have watched women's hockey regularly for
a couple of years now, and I can't see a woman making it as a player in the
NHL in the immediate future.  If I was to rank hockey in terms of order of
magnitude (just in terms of speed of the game), I'd say that the NHL, Junior
A, CIAU (Canadian Interuniversity Athletic Union) hockey, and Senior AA
women's hockey (the highest level of women's hockey in Canada)
are all seperated by at least an order of magnitude.  I've seen games at
all levels, and very few women would be able to compete for a spot on a
varsity team.  It's not just a question of contact vs non-contact either...

Having said that, I'll add that women's hockey is very fun to watch, as
a lot of the top players have amazing tactical skills, and are very smart
hockey players.  The game is different, that's all.  It's just too bad that
women's hockey has so little exposure...

Marc
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: gen5061@husky1.stmarys.ca
Subject: Re: PREDICTIONS ANYONE?
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:10:38 GMT

 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 PATRICK DIVISION		    ADAMS DIVISION
 1. N.Y. Rangers    (1)             1. Boston    (1)
 2. N.Y. Islanders                  2. Montreal
 3. Pittsburgh                      3. Quebec
 4. Washington                      4. Buffalo
 5. N.Y. Islanders                  5. Hartford
 6. Philadelphia                    6. Ottawa
 
 NORRIS DIVISION                  SMYTHE DIVISION
 1. Chicago       (1)             1. Winnipeg     (1)
 2. Detroit                       2. Calgary
 3. St. Louis                     3. Los Angeles
 4. Toronto                       4. Vancouver
 5. Minnesota                     5. Edmonton
 6. Tampa Bay                     6. San Jose

Patrick: Hardest Division to predict!
 
My most amazing and out on a limb pick is the N.Y. Islanders, but considering
they had the most 30+ goal scorers last year and they did most of their scoring
after Turgeon arrived I think a full season with the team they had at the end
of last season will produce some interesting results.

Adams: Quebec is going to Rock! First half anyway.

Everybody that knows me, knows me as a devote Montreal Fanatic, but I got to
admit Boston has an upcomming superstar in Joe Juneau, Oates, Moog, Bourque,
and <Neely> may challenge Hull if healthy, and if Oates and him click.

Norris:

Detroit would have been my first pick.  However, internal problems with player
relations will make Wings falter.  Therefore, Chicago will take over first
place lead by Roenick's best year yet and Toronto will definitely make the 
playoffs with BURNS < boo hoo :( > as coach.

Smyth:

Calgary will be a different team this year.  Roberts will break 100 pts and
Leeman will be an improved player if he sees the ice time.
Winnepeg will hold the divisional title at the end of the year though!  All
those foreigners are going to click especially Olassen and Olczyk (sorry for
spelling) Phil Housley will also continue his successful play.  I place
Edmonton out of the playoffs but that may be a bad prediction because Glen
Sather is a genius!

         
And that is it folks.  Please flame me at the address below if so desired.

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From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: Pens pre-season injury report
Keywords: Francis, Jagr
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:22:32 GMT

Ron Francis is listed as day to day after suffering a shoulder injury during
Saturday night's game against Detroit.

Jaromir Jagr, who has only played in one pre-season game due to a groin pull,
is expected to return to the lineup tonight when the Pens play Hartford.

Lori
Contact for the Penguins
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