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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 10:28:18 -0500
From:         Mike Gingell <aurs01!aurw6b!gingell@CONCERT.NET>
Subject:      re: remote with macros

George Chow <george@UCS.UBC.CA> writes

(comparing HP48 calc and HP95 palmtop as remote controls):

>And the biggest advantage of using the 48 instead of the 95 for a remote
>is that the 48 has a clock and can wake up at a programmed time to do
>things for you.

The HP95 also has a built in clock/calendar and can be programmed to
execute functions at specific times.  One advantage of the 95 over the
48 is that it is can accept PCMCIA RAM cards which can be effectively
doubled in capacity using Stacker.  If you want to control multiple
devices you can run out of memory fast storing all the commands - at least
on the '48 ir programs I have seen.

To some this might seem irelevant to the satellite world but I use timed
recordings all the time, specially of audio stuff. My Sierra III will
not come up on an audio subcarrier of a scrambled channel when you use
its built in timers.  It always defaults to the scrambled sound channel
even if you are not authorized.  So I have to program a sequence from
the remote that, after the sat receiver has come on and is receiving
the right channel goes: tune tune tune tune channel-down (which selects
the audio submenu and then changes to the right subcarrier), then the
remote goes on to send signals to the stereo to start the audio tape
recorder. After an exact delay when the tape is just before the end
it sends a reverse signal to change the direction of recording and
avoids lost recording on the leader. Ain't technology wonderful!

By the way, using an HP48 or 95 as a timed remote has another advantage
over regular remotes.  The remotes I have only support a 7 day clock. So
if you want to make a single recording more than 7 days in the future
while you are away on vacation you are out of luck.  Even worse is
when the clocks change and you are away. With a computer you can
program in daylight saving changes.

For many of us that live in areas where power can glitch from time to
time a battery powered remote control timer is essential.  Recently we
went away for several weeks and came back to find a power glitch had
amnesia'd the timers on one VCR so we didn't get any of the programs
it had been set to tape - despite the fact it has a 1 year 8 event
timer - it only remembers stuff if the power is off for less than 5
minutes.

Mike Gingell, Alcatel, Raleigh, NC USA  (919) 850-6444
UUCP:       ...!mcnc!aurgate!aurfs1!gingell
Internet:   gingell%aurfs1%aurgate@mcnc.org
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From: jay@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Jay Novello)
Subject: Re: Trucker TV to scramble?
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 23:12:33 GMT

hew@Turing.ORG (Harold E. Wheaton (N6WUX)) writes:

>In article <1992Dec30.132201.20194@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> jay@ecsvax.uncecs.edu
> (Jay Novello) writes:
>>I noticed in Satellite TV week that Trucker TV (SBS5-12) is going to
>>"remain in the clear for two more months".
>>Anybody hear anything further?  This was surprising to me since they've
>>run promos that say "you truckers can see Trucker TV at home if you have
>>a satellite dish", then going on to give the info.

>Hmm...that definitely does seem strange.  Either scrambling or compression
>would make costs (to truckstops) very high and I can't conceive how individual
>viewers could eat into revenues.

>It is possible though that the magazine means that ATTN has 2 more months of
>funds for the channel at the very minimum.

>Of course I'll be the most surprised guy if I see that B-MAC pattern on there!
>						-Harold

Just to follow this up... 

Does anybody know if truck stops PAY to show Trucker TV?  Maybe they
just buy the equipment and then they get to show it free?

I ask because my local Food Lion has installed the Checkout Channel
(Yes, I shop at Food Lion, but ONLY because they're the only halfway
decent store within 15 miles in any direction... and I only buy
pre-packaged products there, no meat or vegetables and certainly no
pre-prepared products).  What's the deal with the Checkout Channel?  I
can't imagine the store paying for the service; to me it looks just like
the little ad spaces on the shopping carts, or the ads on the aisle
signs, or the ads on the lights showing the number of the checkout lane.

So what about these services?  Who pays?
-- 
                   Jay Novello                 jay@ecsvax.uncecs.edu
University of North Carolina Institute for Transportation Research and Education
                         Raleigh, North Carolina, USA
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:47:26 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: PTEN?

>Can anyone tell me what PTEN is ?

Prime Time Entertainment Network.

>when does it start?

January.


>any stations running it (especially chicago area)?
>Whether I can buy it from Netlink or the like?

>So far all i have is WWOR/New York

>Am I a sci-fi junkie----   You bet!


Why PAY when you can watch the feeds DIRECT...

TIME TRACKS and BAB5 will be fed on T1/03.
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From: "ian macmillan" <ian.macmillan@canrem.com>
Subject: file request
Reply-To: "ian macmillan" <ian.macmillan@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 21 Dec 92 13:36:59 EST

This is my first time post an article in th feed, but i have been
reading this feed for the last month.

This is directed to gary bourgois or anyone that can give me the proper
address to a site where, i can get file on satellite tv such as the wild
feed list. sourth scanner service chart. the faq. and any other such
files on satellite tv that i can get a hold of esspecially ones that
tell me how to go about putting one together for cheap money.

i have been force to make this public article on this feed since attemps
from canadain remote system via their private mail on the usenet gateway
that they have havn't been successfully sent or receive by the people
that i was trying to get.

Any reply will be welcome...

ian
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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE
Date: 1 Jan 93 03:01:58 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <CMM.0.90.4.725819569.skingsle@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> skingsle@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stuart A Kingsley) writes:
<
<I am off to L.A. in a couple of weeks for my Optical SETI conference.
<While I am there, I am going to see if I can get a tour of the Paramount
<Star Trek sets.

Forget it.  You will not be able to get on either the TNG or DS9 sets...period.

Are you a relative, or very best friend, of either Rick Berman or Michael
Piller?  If you answered yes, then you can probably get a tour.  If you answered
no, then get in line with the rest of us who would like a tour of the sets.
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:35:54 MST
From:         Bob Wier <rrw@SUNSET.CSE.NAU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: IRC chat on Sunday Jan 3 at 4 pm ET
              Jan 3 at 4 pm ET" (Jan  1,  5:14am)

 I've never felt the need to have chat/IRC  before, but THIS is a topic!

 Last week, I spent several frustrating hours trying to find a way to
 use IRC since our internet site doesn't support it.  A number of the
 "Freenet" sites do, but they require normally several days to get
 authorized to use 'em.  This is assuming of course that y ou
 have internet access and can also telnet to the outside world.

 I have, however, just gotten a connection going direct from the
 Mac on my desk using "Irckle".  It seems to work ok (I just
 was checking out the New Year's eve conversation on the Internet -
 it's as boring as the party I was at .. :-)

 If anyone with a Mac needs a hand on this, drop me a note below.

 Otherwise (hopefully) see you Sunday!


- Bob Wier

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      Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff Arizona
 Internet: rrw@naucse.cse.nau.edu | WB5KXH | fax:602 523 2300
From: jay@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Jay Novello)
Subject: F4-14 Subcarriers
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:19:57 GMT

I've been listening to two audio subcarriers on F4R, channel 14, that
Robert Smathers first heard and included in the newest South Canner
Chart, but was unable to ID.

7.60	This seems to be full-time in Haitian Creole.  The
frequently-given ID is "Radio Tropicale".  Much political talk, some
good Haitian music.  I get the feeling this originates in Florida and is
not an over-the-air station.  This needs more investigating.

8.23	Got an ID last night at 2000 in English.  It's "WNWK-FM, 105.9,
Newark, New Jersey".  Multicultural Broadcasting (that's their slogan).
They gave the weather, then went into a reggae show hosted by DJ Rude
Boy.  Lots and lots of ads for concerts and nightclub parties in the NYC
area.  I taped 90 minutes of this and brought it in to listen to so
maybe I'll have more light to shed on this later today.  At other times,
this station has been heard in Spanish and in Creole.

There you go... satellite just keeps getting more and more "niched".  If
you haven't listened to Haitian music, give it a try.  Fans of Reggae,
Soca, Zouk, and African music will especially enjoy it...a very joyous
sound coming from such a God-forsaken disaster area.

-- 
                   Jay Novello                 jay@ecsvax.uncecs.edu
University of North Carolina Institute for Transportation Research and Education
                         Raleigh, North Carolina, USA
From: flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US (Gary Bourgois)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: KGAY?
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:19:18 GMT
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>What happened to KGAY. No longer seems to be on the air, and they
>do not answer their 800 line. I kind of wondered how they were doing
>this with no advertising. Was kind of humourous when it was on, it
>reminded me of the "Den Pals" back in 1977 on what is now WLUP???
>        ....kg....


KGAY is still on the air, on a time share basis with WNN until they can get a
full time uplink from denver.  This happened when RTPi came on S3/24 which
pushed Sat Market USA to S3/22 and this eliminated the denver based replay of
Sat Market USA, and thus the backhaul for their G5 uplink from Atlanta.

Last night they came on right after PARANET UFO CONTINUUM show with their
usual new wave music.

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From: diggins@husc4.harvard.edu (Lenard Diggins)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: live video of volcano in Anarctica
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:11:36 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


hi folks,
    unfortunately i'm not able to change my dish settings for a
while, but i thought you might be interested in knowing that NBC
put up some live video from a volcano in Anartica (during the
New York feed).  i'm now watching it on the Chicago refeed (K2/5),
and i heard the video was coming from NASA.  as soon as possible,
i'll take a look on F2/13; but i'm sure many of you will have a
chance to scan the skies or check out sci.space before i do.
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:50:24 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: KGAY?

>In <724961236snx@montage.UUCP> platinum@montage.UUCP (Doug Swallow) writes:

>>You can still find the official feed of the signal at G5/6 6.3/6.48MHz.

>I hate this.  Is this really the "official" feed?  Since this is piggy-backed
>with TBS, my VC module locks on and won't let go.  I can't tune a stereo
>signal with my IRD on a scrambled channel, and I'm not about to spend bucks
>on a stereo receiver.  Why don't they put the "official" uplink on an ITC
>transponder?

>Does anyone know any of the high-ups at KGAY?  Someone needs to explain
>this to them.


Most people CAN tune stereo (or at least mono) on scrambled channels.  It is
MUCH cheaper to put a subcarrier on a scrambled channel.  Your receiver can
be simply modified.  It may be that you only need to do some creative
programming to get around the problem.

Since I am a programmer of an audio service that IS carried on a scrambled
channel, I have looked into this.  There are VERY FEW IRD/s that won't let
you tune subcarrier instead of the VCII audio.  There are good reasons for
this, such as those services that have Spanish or other video related audio
on the scrambled channel.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:25:39 PST
From:         Vijay Vaidyanathan <zycad!yoda!vijay@SUN.COM>
Subject:      Re: For quick sale: Used Sat TV system
              29 Dec 1992 14:09:32 PST <9212292221.AA29677@Sun.COM>

Oh yes ... I forgot to add a *reliable* email address for the Used
Sat system ... its vijay@netcom.com

I have also been having terrible difficulties with my email, so I
have now got myself an account at one of our nearby commercial
Unix establishments, netcom;

So, if you sent me mail and didnt hear from me, (I usually
*always* reply within a day, often immediately), try me at
"vijay@netcom.com". Thats hopefully a lot more reliable ...

- Vijay
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From: andre@king.slc.mentorg.com (Andre' Hut)
Subject: Re: REC.VIDEO.CABLE-TV -- LET
Organization: /net/king/usr1/andre/.organization
Date: 29 Dec 92 15:12:37

In article <2413.159.uupcb@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter)  writes:
   >well, if you have a cable box with a chip, that covers all the methods
   >of decoding, and its bullet proof, you will not get turned off.  the
   >bullet is real.

   >The reason people get caught is because the cable company will play a
   >movie and offer a free T-shirt to any that calls in, and well, some
   >people are not smart (like in NY) and they called in, the person wrote
   >down the callers information, and they checked the computers and found
   >some that are subscribing and some that are not.  BUSTED!

Well, if you have a satellite dish, then it's unlikely that you would even
consider having a *cable box*.  Unless you can't receive your local
stations any other way, I can't see why anyone with a dish would have
cable.

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From: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: HOCKEY, OPPS FORGOT TO AD
Date: 21 Dec 92 03:33:00 GMT
Reply-To: terry.walter@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Terry Walter) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Outland BBS  UUPCB  403-475-9588

Thank you very much, as a hockey fan, I thank you.  Where do you get
lists like this???
                                        
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From: edg@ecs.comm.mot.com (Ed Gonzalez)
Subject: HOW much does it cost....
Organization: trunking_terms
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:29:24 GMT

Hello fellow birdwatchers!!

Some time ago, someone asked how much would it cost to see "everything".
I would say that the same question is being asked by those who have modified
VCs and are about to go dark.  

At the time, many responses came thru the network, but few dollar and cents 
figures.  Last night, I just could not resist anymore, and I grabbed a few
OLD magazines (Sept/Oct 92), looked for prices, and found out the answer:


.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> $ 1181 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

My answer was $1181/year.  This may vary for others depending on the way 
you calculate your answer (providers/packages,etc)  I made a few assumptions:

1) TVN1-10 were not included, since I could not come up with a $$ for them.
2) Spice/Playboy junk were not included.
3) PPV channels (which are 2 or 3) were not included (same reason as #1).
4) Packages were selected so that prices would be as low as possible.
5) The assumption was made, that if you paid for 1 channel (eg.,Disney)
   you would get to watch all feeds.
6) All prices were for yearly rates.

Please!! No flames!!! I just provided this info as a Public Service Announce-
ment.  

                           $ 1181.00/year
                               98.41/month
                                3.24/day
                                 .05/minute

Shawn Kenney, from the now dissapeared Greensheet/Boresight would have had
a fit!!!    
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:52:35 EST
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: It's damn cold here.(was re: now, where is it cold?)

>To add a little satellite-related topic here, does anyone know the effects
>of snow on a mesh dish?  I realize a light crusting won't impair my
>reception, but what if a ten foot dish is packed full of the stuff?  The
>weight alone could damage the dish, but will it affect my reception?



Even a couple inches of snow in the bowl of the dish will totally trash KU
band reception, and much more than that will affect C band.  Keep it swept
out.


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From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: IRC Chat scheduled for December 27, 1992 (sunday)
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 07:11:10 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


I was thinking of setting up another IRC chat meeting tomorrow (SUNDAY
December 27) at about 4 pm ET.  I find these meetings fun and I'll
be there (assuming the dial-in nodes don't give out on me -- I missed
a chat with a friend the other day because the dial-in nodes were down).

If you want to come in and chat, just join the #SATTV channel by
typing "/JOIN #SATTV" when you are in IRC.  

A transcript probably will become available -- I am still working on making
last week's script readable, but I've been devoting a lot of time to the
new South Scanner chart.

Speaking of the South Scanner, I will have it out tomorrow, so keep your
eyes on the r.v.s./Homesat!

Hope to see you tomorrow if you can make it,

Robert

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From: "jim gunnell" <jim.gunnell@canrem.com>
Subject: oak in canada
Reply-To: "jim gunnell" <jim.gunnell@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:53:44 EST

 First, Oak is NOT being turned off in Canada. How do I know?? I work
for the company that is using that system to scramble the signals.
 Second, in a few more months, another signal will be scrambled using
the same encryption system.
 Third, VC2+ is expensive up here.
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From: jhansen@convex.com (James Hansen)
Subject: Re: KGAY?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:46:50 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <724961236snx@montage.UUCP> platinum@montage.UUCP (Doug Swallow) writes:

>You can still find the official feed of the signal at G5/6 6.3/6.48MHz.

I hate this.  Is this really the "official" feed?  Since this is piggy-backed
with TBS, my VC module locks on and won't let go.  I can't tune a stereo
signal with my IRD on a scrambled channel, and I'm not about to spend bucks
on a stereo receiver.  Why don't they put the "official" uplink on an ITC
transponder?

Does anyone know any of the high-ups at KGAY?  Someone needs to explain
this to them.

--
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CONVEX Computer Corporation                              jhansen@convex.com
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Richardson, TX 75083-3851                              Phone: (214)497-4802
From: gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org (Gary Sanders)
Subject: fixed key
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 (1200/2400/v.32/pep)
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 01:00:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.190033.14001@news.acns.nwu.edu> gilmore@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Kevin Gilmore) writes:

I noticed a number of services G5,G1,F4 were in fixed key mode
over XMAS.. I wonder if this was done as a jesture of good will 
the sat users or they didnt want to pay someone to take phone calls
in case some boxes took a  reset hit?


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