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From: Dane.Beko@p1.f21.n300.z1.fidonet.org (Dane Beko)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Using mtools
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:48:56 -0800

I'm trying to get a BASH shell script written so that I selectively
batch copy files from my DOS partition to Linux.  Here's the shell
script:

mdir | sed "/^ /d" | sed "/^$/d" | tr '[A-Z]' '[a-z]' | sed "/^\./d" >
tmp$$
joe tmp$$
sed "/^\(............\)\(.*\)$/s//\1/" < tmp$$ | sed "s/ /./" | sed "s/
//g" > tmpa$$  <----- (end of previous line)
mv tmpa$$ tmp$$
for file in `cat tmp$$`
do
  mread '$file' $file
done
rm tmp$$ tmp$$~
exit

However, the "mread '$file' $file" command results in a <"$FILE" not
found message> by mtools.  I've tried escaping the ' symbol (\') in the
shell
script but this doesn't work either.  Any suggestions?

 * Origin: Dane's Mailbox * Tucson, AZ (1:300/21.1)

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jliddle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Jean Liddle)
Subject: Re: Motif Window Manager on Linux??
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 05:23:41 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <1992Aug21.015103.4965@ennews.eas.asu.edu> mcguirk@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Dan McGuirk) writes:
>In article <zhao.714325741@unixg.ubc.ca> zhao@unixg.ubc.ca (Jiansheng Zhao) writes:
>>mwm comes with SLS package, and it is working. You can find SLS package at
>>tsx-11.mit.edu.
>
>Are the mwm binaries available separately on some ftp site?  Or, could
>you at least tell which disk(s) of the SLS package contain mwm?
>Although I'd like to take a look at SLS, I don't have time to download
>the entire 15-disk distribution, only to get only one program that I
>actually need...
>
You just need one file from disk #15:  mwm[something].taz.  download
this file from tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/SLS/15/mwm...taz, rename it
to mwm...tar.Z on your linux disk, uncompress and untar from the root
directory, create the directory /usr/lib/shared, within that directory
make a symbolic link from /usr/lib/X11 to /usr/lib/shared/X11, change 
your "exec [t | olv]wm" line to "exec gwm -qf mwm" in your .xinitrc
file, and you are ready to run gwm.

On a similar note, could someone point the way to a postscript viewer
for x windows or linux?  I downloaded the postscript docs to gwm, but
have no way of printing them.  I would like to at least read them
online so I can learn how to customize gwm/mwm to my own tastes (getting
rid of the "lock to grid" positioning of icons, changing the menus, etc.)

Thanks!

Jean.
-- 
Jean Liddle                                 | == Bill Clinton for President ==
Computer Science, Illinois State University | 
e-mail:  jliddle@ilstu.edu                  | - Carol Mosley Braun for Senat -
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: header woes with 2.2.2d
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:46:49 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Aug18.173556.17751@athena.mit.edu>, tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:
| 
|    From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
|    Date: 18 Aug 92 13:51:35 GMT
| 
|      At the risk of sounding as if I'm complaining, I think the "phase
|    errors" betweeen the ps, kernel, and gcc packages is getting to be
|    enough hassle that the various maintainers should get together and agree
|    on something and stick to it. Evertime a new version of one comes out,
|    it seems to be a huge hassle getting it to work with the other two.
| 
| Don't take the newest version then!  Stick with 0.96c, and don't take a
| new version until it's become fully stable.  After all, that's what

| Asking Linus, et. al to "stick to it" would mean freezing kernel
| development.  It would mean abandoning new changes to eliminate the 64
| process limit, and to make V86 emulation mode simpler to implement.  
| That would be a Bad Thing.

  Having done a good bit of distributed development over the years has
convinced me that this is one place where a little good software
engineering practice is important. We are talking about three people (or
groups) promptly sharing changes to the header file. People who are in
fast communication via network.

  It doesn't take much to send a diff back and forth, or even have one
person be the keeper of the headers, as we have a coordinator of
info-zip, a distributed project if ever there was one. That way when a
new item is added to a header file, the other groups can immediately see
the change, and either fix incompatibilities, or ask the originator of
the change to provide a name change to avoid conflicts. In most cases
it's as simple as two groups both adding things to the headers, which a
set of diffs would fix and leave all groups playing with the sam
headers.

  Sorry if I can't agree that a simple coordination "would mean freezing
kernel development." I am pretty sure it would save more time than it
took, helping or at least not hindering the people doing the
development, and it would certainly avoid having every person who
packages a Linux release do their own, often incompatible, header
munging. That would be a good thing for Linux development indeed!
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: david@ods.com (David Engel)
Subject: Re: Problems installing GCC-2.2.2d
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 22:44:37 GMT

William A Jones (bjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: The missing files are
: 		/usr/lib/gcc-lib/i386-linux/2.2.2d/shared/libhard.a
: (I took care of this with a hard link to libm.a which did exist)

There is no shared/libhard.a.  Both hard and soft shared libs use the
same shared/libm.a.

: 		libc.so.2.2
: 		libhard.so.2.2

These are in 2.2.2ddb.tar.Z

David
-- 
David Engel                        Optical Data Systems, Inc.
david@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Diamond Speed Star SVGA card
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:18:32 GMT
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)





anyone got this to work with X under Linux????

And also, is it true that the Diamond Stealth card won't work 'cuz
it has that new S3 chip???



Thanx in advance.

-- 
MaThiEu a. LeWis   
Thieves Like Us   
mal11@po.cwru.edu
From: jwiegand@moe.eng.temple.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: (none)
Date: 19 Aug 92 05:40:57 GMT
Reply-To: jwiegand@moe.eng.temple.edu
Organization: The Internet

RE: HD: read_intr: status = 0x51

There seems to be a problem with certain hd's that have a braindead
IDE bios. They return READY_STAT but do not clear the lower bits.
This results in silly messages like:
HD: read_intr: status = 0x51
This happened with my Brand Technologies 200 MB hard drive
and is fixed by ignoring the confused condition.
I have used this patch on MSDOS and EXTFS partitions on the BT drive
and have had no trouble backing up Linux (~150 MB of tar files)
and transferring other big numbers of files. I was waiting for someone
else to mention this before perpetrating the following on an 
unsuspecting world:

*** hd.c.old	Wed Aug 19 00:50:49 1992
--- hd.c	Wed Aug 19 00:29:33 1992
***************
*** 248,256 ****
  {
  	int i;
  
  	i = (unsigned) inb_p(HD_STATUS);
! 	if ((i & STAT_MASK) != STAT_OK) {
  		printk("HD: read_intr: status = 0x%02x\n",i);
  		goto bad_read;
  	}
  	if (wait_DRQ()) {
--- 248,256 ----
  {
  	int i;
  
  	i = (unsigned) inb_p(HD_STATUS);
! 	if (((i & STAT_MASK) != STAT_OK) && !(i & READY_STAT)) {
  		printk("HD: read_intr: status = 0x%02x\n",i);
  		goto bad_read;
  	}
  	if (wait_DRQ()) {
***************
*** 259,267 ****
  	}
  	port_read(HD_DATA,CURRENT->buffer,256);
  	i = (unsigned) inb_p(HD_STATUS);
  	if (!(i & BUSY_STAT))
! 		if ((i & STAT_MASK) != STAT_OK) {
  			printk("HD: read_intr: second status = 0x%02x\n",i);
  			goto bad_read;
  		}
  	CURRENT->errors = 0;
--- 259,267 ----
  	}
  	port_read(HD_DATA,CURRENT->buffer,256);
  	i = (unsigned) inb_p(HD_STATUS);
  	if (!(i & BUSY_STAT))
! 	if (((i & STAT_MASK) != STAT_OK) && !(i & READY_STAT)) {
  			printk("HD: read_intr: second status = 0x%02x\n",i);
  			goto bad_read;
  		}
  	CURRENT->errors = 0;
***************
*** 286,294 ****
  #endif
  	do_hd_request();
  	return;
  bad_read:
! 	if (i & ERR_STAT) {
  		i = (unsigned) inb(HD_ERROR);
  		printk("HD: read_intr: error = 0x%02x\n",i);
  	}
  	bad_rw_intr();
--- 286,294 ----
  #endif
  	do_hd_request();
  	return;
  bad_read:
! 	if (i & ERR_STAT)  {
  		i = (unsigned) inb(HD_ERROR);
  		printk("HD: read_intr: error = 0x%02x\n",i);
  	}
  	bad_rw_intr();
***************
*** 300,308 ****
  {
  	int i;
  
  	i = (unsigned) inb_p(HD_STATUS);
! 	if ((i & STAT_MASK) != STAT_OK) {
  		printk("HD: write_intr: status = 0x%02x\n",i);
  		goto bad_write;
  	}
  	if (CURRENT->nr_sectors > 1 && wait_DRQ()) {
--- 300,308 ----
  {
  	int i;
  
  	i = (unsigned) inb_p(HD_STATUS);
! 	if (((i & STAT_MASK) != STAT_OK) && !(i & READY_STAT)) {
  		printk("HD: write_intr: status = 0x%02x\n",i);
  		goto bad_write;
  	}
  	if (CURRENT->nr_sectors > 1 && wait_DRQ()) {

Of course Linus can clean this up by fiddling with the macros,
but there it is!

jim
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: conflicting serial ports
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:04:16 GMT

In article <jane.714294486@munagin> jane@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (jane lynette cosham) writes:
>Hi!
>
>I am using linux 0.96c and having problems using ttys0 and ttys2 at
>the same time.
>
>If ttys0 is in use (for example for the mouse in X) then attempts to
>open ttys2 fail - reporting that the device is busy.  The reverse also
>happens - if ttys2 is in use then ttys0 reports as busy.
>
>This is not dependent on what is trying to open the port or which one
>has the first port open - X for the mouse, kermit, getty or just a 
>write to that device.  It also is not dependent on the hardware - I 
>have tried different i/o cards or even removing the card altogether.  
>(kermit doesn't mind opening a port that isn't installed and writes 
>to the other one still say the device is in use)
>
>Is this a bug?  Am I doing something wrong?  Would it be fixed if I
>upgraded to 0.97?

This is a feature, not a bug.  The ISA bus cannot share interrupts.
If one line is not asserting an interrupt condition (ie, pulling the 
IRQ line low), and another has the IRQ driver enabled, and triggers
an interrupt, it will short out with the one pulling the line low,
the IRQ line will stay in a logic low state, and you will never 
see the interrupt.
-- 
Microsoft is responsible for propogating the evils it calls DOS and Windows, 
IBM for AIX (appropriately called Aches by those having to administer it), but 
marketing's sins don't come close to those of legal departments.
Boycott AT&T for their absurd anti-BSDI lawsuit.
From: rohrer@fncrd6.fnal.gov (Keith Rohrer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: AMD386 vs. Intel386 & external cache problems
Summary: open case != cooler!!!
Keywords: AMD 386 Intel cache
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:59:32 GMT
Followup-To: rohrer@fncrd0.fnal.gov
Organization: Fermilab

In article <1992Aug14.083358.24246@news.th-darmstadt.de> herr@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Gabor Herr) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.130554.14600@crd.ge.com>, davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:
[deleted]
>because these two chips were the only ones getting hot. And there was another
>cooling effect too: after I was tired of removing and installing the boards in my
I've discovered that, even with a case that has incredibly poor ventilation,
the hard drive and (if the CPU is a hot one) the CPU will be cooler if you
close the case and allow the fan to draw air across them than if you just
leave the case open and let normal air currents try to cool it.
While I was working on my new 386-40 motherboard, within an hour of
use with the case open, the chip got so hot it burned my finger to touch
it.  But I could leave the machine on for hours with the cover on,
and the CPU only got too hot to touch for more than a second or two.
I think I may have also cooked a hard drive running it with the cover off
the (main) case.

>case, I just let the machine run open on my desk without the case.
>But nothing of this helped. The tests failed with or without cooling.
Then heat wasn't your problem.

>Gabor
>############################################################################
>Gabor Herr			Email: herr@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
>Computer Science Department
>Technical University of Darmstadt, Germany

	Keith
(rohrer@fncrd0.fnal.gov)


-- 
Disclaimer: None of Grinnell College, URA, Fermilab, and any other affiliated
persons or orginizations have licensed my ideas or opinions, and thus are
not entitled to any which may appear above.
From: wyvern@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Wyvern)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: GCC 2.2.2d and Linux version
Summary: Is 0.97 necessary?
Keywords: gcc
Date: 16 Aug 92 14:52:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: mintaka.1992Aug16.145246.12984
Organization: Free Software Foundation

I've received some conflicting information on gcc 2.2.2d:
Is it necessary to upgrade to 0.97 in order to install/use 2.2.2d?

Currently I have 0.96cp2 up and running well, and I was planning on sticking
with it until a more 'stable' release comes along.
From: int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Jae Won)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: going back to text after an x session
Summary: machine refuses to give rme back normal text mode
Keywords: Text mode, X386v1.0, weird
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:27:38 GMT
Organization: Monash University

Hi,

	I installed X the other day and have been playing with various stuff.
My problem is that : after I kill all the windows(or exit out of them), and
I get out of X session by using quit on twm, the text mode doesn't come up
as it should and gives me lots of vertical lines. The characters are only
shown up as vertical lines or nothing which makes it kinda hard to read. ;-(
	
	The version is X386v1.0 and linux is .096a. I am running X on a 386-33 
with 4 meg(is this relevant??) and a ET4000 card with 1 meg memory at 800x600
resolution with 1024x768 virtual terminal(this virtual terminal thing is real
cool...:)

Thanks in advance.

jae

int177c@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au

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From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Why GNU cp is flakey under Linux
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:40:53 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Aug13.132338.8532@klaava.Helsinki.FI>, torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) writes:

| Yes, but GNU cp looks /only/ at the st_blocks field, and seems to ignore
| st_blksize altogether, assuming it's a constant (usually 512).  Or

I have a vague recollection of du doing the same thing, I'll have to
check that this weekend.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: how to put bootimage on hd? (faq?)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:42:55 GMT

Olaf Schreck (olafabbe@w251zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de) wrote:

: how do i put the BOOTimage onto my hd? i did this once, worked fine, but
: can't remember where i read about this. must have been something with dd.
: i tried "dd if=/dev/floppy0 /vmlinux" but this gave me a 1.4 MB file
: (the whole floppy disk instead of ~ 230k bootimage file).

If you have the source, recompile, then cp /usr/src/linux/Image.

In the Makefile, there is a dd command associated with the target "make disk" -
reverse the if= and of= and it should work, also.
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: david@ods.com (David Engel)
Subject: Re: shared libs - can everyone be happy with this?
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 17:10:27 GMT

Hubert Bahr (hab@engr.ucf.edu) wrote:
: understand at least some change in the Libs.  However, I understand
: that RS is working on a new version of GCC.

RS is *always* working on GCC.  However, the code-generation and
optimization techniques (at least for the 386) have been stable and
haven't been changed for some time now.  For example, the "fix" RS
is working on now is an optimization of GCC itself (in certain cases,
GCC uses enormous amounts of memory).  The change won't affect the
generated code in any way.  So recompiling already working code with
the new version won't gain you anything.

: What happens when that is released?  

The same as when new versions of software is released, someone (H.J.)
will probably compile and release it.

: Will jump tables solve that problem too?  

Nope, jump tables can't do anything about application changes!

David
-- 
David Engel                        Optical Data Systems, Inc.
david@ods.com                      1101 E. Arapaho Road
(214) 234-6400                     Richardson, TX  75081
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jliddle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Jean Liddle)
Subject: Re: SLS: now available (for testers)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 08:19:45 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <1992Aug17.042529.17518@sol.UVic.CA> pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:
>I am going to kick myself for contributing to perpetuating this farce, 
>but I am weak with amazement.
>

Me sentiments exactly.  I've restrained myself to only one post on this
subject, but ...
>
>Anyways, for now, distribution via Softlanding is suspended, because
>it (you) is getting in the way of developing and testing SLS, which
>is after all my primary goal.  And I suggest that in future you 

This is indeed unfortunate.  Please reconsider.  I will lose internet
access in the not-to-distant future, and will want to avail myself of
your services.  Your release sounds like a good one -- I was planning
on downloading it this week and maybe making it available here. :(

As for my personal opinion, I would be delighted to see linux become
widespread enough that commercial developers might consider porting 
applications to linux.  Being able to get SimCity for X under linux
would be extremely cool.  For this to ever happen, a service such as
yours will be needed to fill a valuable distribution niche.  But then,
there are probably those who would scream bloody murder if anyone
actually tried to (gasp!) sell software which runs under linux.

oh well, all the best.

Jean.
-- 
Jean Liddle                                 | == Bill Clinton for President ==
Computer Science, Illinois State University | 
e-mail:  jliddle@ilstu.edu                  | - Carol Mosley Braun for Senat -
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux CDROM (Was stabilizing Linux)
Date: 13 Aug 92 09:55:29 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <1992Aug12.164546.13304@crd.ge.com> davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.020246.22166@wimsey.bc.ca>, bhenning@wimsey.bc.ca (Bill Henning) writes:
>| 3.75Gb/process would be great! I am not likely to need that ofcourse, nor will
>| I likely have a swap partition much greater than 10-20Mb, but fewer limitations
>| are allways welcome.
>| 
>| Now if the number of processes are also increased from 64 to say 1024 that would
>| be great! (yes, I can see running out of 64 processes)
>
>  I can see running out of 64 processes a lot faster than running out of
>64MB address space. I certainly am not running that much memory and
>swap.

The things are related: the 64 process maximum will be gone the same day
the 64MB limit is gone.  It will just take a bit of coding on my part,
so don't expect it tomorrow.. 

		Linus
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: SLS: Free Linux Distribution.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:48:10 GMT

Peter MacDonald (pmacdona@sanjuan) wrote:

: Linux is already available from a distribution service (commercial 
: found at the end since none of you will want to use it).

I don't think that c.o.l is the place to be putting advertisments for
commercial ventures, which is what this is.  Take it to the biz. groups.

Ordinarily, I wouldn't care, but this gets on my nerves, and NSFnet (and
other gateways) get unhappy about commercial advertisments on non-commercial
newsgroups.
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: header woes with 2.2.2d
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:51:35 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Aug18.064024.13631@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu>, jliddle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Jean Liddle) writes:
| Well, my hopes of flawless compilation of the ps package under 2.2.2d
| have been dashed.  I followed the instructions in the FAQ, README, and
| release docs, namely (1) removing all old gcc stuff (and all /usr/include
| directories except /usr/include/X11/*).  I even removed the linux
| sources, reinstalled them from scratch, applied patch 1 and the buffer fix,
| to make sure all headers were unadultered. (2) ran the install script.

  At the risk of sounding as if I'm complaining, I think the "phase
errors" betweeen the ps, kernel, and gcc packages is getting to be
enough hassle that the various maintainers should get together and agree
on something and stick to it. Evertime a new version of one comes out,
it seems to be a huge hassle getting it to work with the other two.

  I think the original posting identifies a real trouble spot, and I
hope something can be done by the people involved to promote better
interoperability.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
From: geek+@CMU.EDU (Brian E. Gallew)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Xview
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:24:30 GMT
Organization: Administrative Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I'm sorry to have confused everyone.  What I compiled is
xloadimage|xview|xsetbg which I find to be a *beautiful* replacement
for xsetroot.

Again, it is *not* XView.

                                  -Brian

You drop the bomb -more-
It goes off... -more-
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