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From: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
Subject: Re: Macross 2: Does it really SUCK!!
Reply-To: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 05:08:51 GMT


In a previous article, dscott@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Danielle M. Scott) says:

>I notice more and more that a lot of people really, really, really,
>really, think Macross 2 (Dubbed version) SUCKS! 

Well, I think the dubbed version was certainly not good, but I find that
when I watch it, there's only a few points that really give me the
snickers.

What I find surprising is how many people on the net think that MACROSS II
*itself* sucks, with or without dubbing.  I can't agree there.  M-II
certainly isn't going to win any awards; the plotline is mediocre and
unoriginal.  But that just means that M-II is no better than most anime.
It's not BAD.

I've seen BAD.  BAD is SAMMY MISSING 99.  BAD is TOKYO VICE.  BAD is BUBBLE
GUM CRASH! 1.  BAD is not MACROSS II.

			---------- Ryan Mathews
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From: thao@bnr.ca (Anthony Murtagh)
Subject: Re: RUMOR:  BATTLETECH anime!! (KENICHI SONODA CHARACTER DESIGNS)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 13:16:20 GMT

In article <2acaoB5w164w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> ccavers@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Cam Cavers) writes:
>noelg@pnet01.cts.com (Noel Gamboa) writes:
>

[battletechy stuff deleted]

>
>I just browsed the Tech Readout 3055 in a bookstore the other day, and I
>noticed the new designs for all the old mecha stolen from Macross...are the
					       ^^^^^^

i've been curious all these years and have never received a answer about battletech
mechas....  since *all* the battletech mechas were taken from various anime shows
and then hacked and slashed into "new" mechas, was there never any copyright infringement
or battles of any sort?  (i.e.  how could someone just take the creations of others
and profit of it).  

the battletech people may have purchased the rights to use the mechas but i've never
heard that relayed to me.  any enlightening comments would be appreciated.

>ones in the Readout the Japanese designs?     


laly thao

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From: jkim@jingoro.Eng.Sun.COM (Jun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Flame Fest?  What Flame Fest?
Date: 23 Jul 1992 18:52:43 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: jingoro

In article <gq3BoB6w165w@clubzen.fidonet.org> fafhrd@clubzen.fidonet.org (Fafhrd) writes:
[...]

>
>... And, yes, I am devoted to running 
>AC '93. And no, I don't consider the possibility of not running it, for 
>any number of reasons.

Bingo.  Get rid of this mentality, and I bet you'll have your
greatly desired meeting with Mike.

But then it depends on what you really want, I'd gather.

>
>I have played con politics for a long time. I admit that, and I also 
>admit that I ENJOY running conventions, politics and all. But I'd like to 
>think that I do so for the right reasons: so the fans can have the best 
>possible conventiuon. 
>

If you ask the rest of raa what this "best convention" entails, I'm sure
they'll tell you that it doesn't appear to be happening right now.
If you want it be happening, do the right thing and be willing to make
hard compromises.  If you are unwilling, don't blame Mike for not wanting
to talk to you.


--
Jun Kim                                    jkim@jingoro.Eng.Sun.Com
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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: New to Anime
Keywords: What? BGC bad?!
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:10:50 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


Re: Anime tastes
 
I tend to enjoy both ends of the anime spectrum, from
babes-in-battlesuits to high drama.  
 
BGC isn't bad, and while it wouldn't be my first choice, it's not a
bad start, either, IMO.  I liked Gunbuster more than BGC, ironically.
My first anime show was Robotech (which I can't stand anymore), but
the first anime I saw that really got me going was Windaria.  This is
the movie I generally show to first-timers, due to its nice art,
soundtrack, and (surprise) remarkable depth.  Some people get put off
by the ending, but it's unexpected.  That's what makes it so good.
 
"Ja...bye-bye!"
-RJ

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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: VP Miyu LD
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:47:57 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.040445.22478@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2) writes:
>I left work early, went to the store to get the LD, drove back like a
>maniac and got there just in time for the class.  Gosh I'm such an
>otaku... :-)

No, a true otaku would've skipped class, gone home, and watched the LD.
You're not a true otaku.  Feeling any better now?  8-)

>			"I WANT RIDING BEAN ON LD, DAMMIT!"

Perhaps we should gather all the Riding Bean fanatics outside AnimEigo
and have them chant, "BEAN! BEAN! BEAN! BEAN!" and stamp their feet
until AnimEigo is forced to print a Bean LD lest they be ripped apart
by the seismic (sp) forces at work.  Hey, it's worth a shot!

Beware of angering otaku, for they are just insane enough to do something
so stupid...
-- 
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From: mvcy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: The Battle of the Planets
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:42:01 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Jul21.231150.22751@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>,
bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes: 
> 
>>Does anyone remember this cartoon?  It used to be my favorite cartoon while it
>>was on.  However I can't remember a thing about it except that some small kid
>>always studdered "princess" at least once during the show.  Does anyone
>>remember the other character or the villians?
> -Brian G.
> 
I can't recall ever seeing an English version of this, but I did see a similar
title dubbed in French.  If they are indeed the same thing, then the original
anime is 'Kagaku ninja-tai Gatchaman' which basically translates as 'Science
Ninja Team Gatchaman'.  They had five characters with thier distinct bird
visor helmet (each character with a specific beak shape to match their
nickname like Eagle, Condor, Swan, Owl and I can't remember the kid's bird).
There were five machines which joined to form the big blue battleship 
originally called the 'God-Phonix'.
The bad guys had quite an interesting lieutenant (I think their ultimate boss
was an alien lifeform and used to only show up on screens) who was a
hermaphrodite.  His/her name was 'Beluk-Katze' or some similar spellings.

This may not seem familiar to American viewers but I think the various
original episodes are probably available in Japan.  The show aired on Fuji
TV network sometime around 1972 I think.

Sat
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 22 Jul 1992 11:37:54 CDT
From: <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Bashing Macek.
 <1992Jul16.192014.29992@sura.net> <1437@tnc.UUCP>

In article <1437@tnc.UUCP>, m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS) says:
>
>I know Macek dubbed this movie while he was still at Harmony Gold, but
>why re-release it now?  Huh?  Only thing I can think of is the bucks.

Come to think of it,how did he get it? Wouldn't Harmony Gold attempt to
retain the rights to distribute their own productions? Does Carl have the
rights to WINDARIA,or did he buy them from HG?

      ** Chris Krolczyk,esq.  * DISCLAIMER: My opinions are in **
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Subject: Re: Otakus, fanboys, and psychos (was Re: KOR Questions.)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 03:23:19 GMT

7100P%NAVPGS.BITNET@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU (Jeff Siegel) writes:

>My .02 (adjusted for inflation):  Otaku is a Japanese word with a negative
>connotation, and I think that it is a big mistake for the word to be
>used in a 'positive' (or at least non-negative) sense.  It could
>possibly hurt efforts to spread Japanese animation throughout the States
>since Japanese will equate 'otaku' to their definition, not the much more
>sedate 'American' definition.  I'm an anime fan, but I don't want to have
>the 'otaku' label applied to me because except in parts of American
>anime fandom, the label is derogatory and in my case, totally inaccurate -
>I enjoy anime, but it's not my life.  I suggest American anime fandom
>break itself of a bad habit and stop using 'otaku' in a positive or non-
>negative sense.  Most anime fans cringe when someone doesn't translate
>the dialog in subbed or dubbed anime correctly, so why should 'otaku'
>be an exception?
    Language is a funny thing ya know....Once a foriegn word gets into
usage meaning something different, you can't stop it. Fine, I'll only
use it around nonjapanese fans, who will understand the meaning. Personally
I find it sad that people may judge me as a loser merely because I use the
word Otaku incorrectly.           

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ARE NOT EXAGGERATED! I AM IN FACT DEAD.        ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu

                        <<FNORD>>
From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Manga Fans (WAS: Re: Otakus, fanboys, and psychos)
Date: 26 Jul 1992 05:28:08 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Reply-To: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Summary: Manga Otaku?
Keywords: Manga, Otaku
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

In article <36139@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:

>>Not manga, though.

>How can they when 40% of printed matter in Japan is manga? :)

Perhaps precisely because manga has such a wide acceptance that addiction(?)
to manga is considered as an acceptable life style (Reminds me of some guy
who sued his grandmother for throwing out his manga in Japan, and WON)

What it all boils down to is whether or not others in society consider one's
behavior as acceptable.

>*                      Tonghyun "Vajra" Kim                     *

-Dave C.

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2)
Subject: Re: Sakamoto
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:34:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.033631.18041@csus.edu>, kilpatri@nextnet.ccs.csus.edu (John A. Kilpatrick) writes:
> I am watching the Olympic opening ceremonies and they said the music for it
> was done by the fameous Japanese compeser Sakamoto (I've never heard of him)
> Has this composer, Sakamoto, done any anime music?

The only ANIME soundtrack I'm aware of is the one for WINGS OF HONNEAMISE.
Back in the Early 80's, he was one of the members of the Yellow Magic
Orchestra.  Since then, he's done soundtracks for various Western films,
including THE LAST EMPEROR, THE HANDMAID'S TALE, and THE SHELTERING SKY.
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From: radman@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Ataru + Kyosuke = Rich 'The Rad Man' Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: The Spirit of Wonder
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:52:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Studio K

In article <1992Jul21.032546.4372@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Conty 1/2) writes:
>
>I boughot OPP on LD sight unseen, and I definitely do not regret it.
>BTW, I contend that OPP is not "one of the best".  It IS the best.
>
	YOU DOWN WIT' OPP? YEAH YOU KNOW ME!!!!
	(sorry, couldn't resist!)
>-- 
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>			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
>			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
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From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Gundam novels vs video?
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 10:19:11 GMT

To which of the Gundam series does the first novelizations correspond?
The intro leads me to believe that the novelization is the 'first' of
the Gundam stories - is this correct?  If so, first OAV, TV, other?
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From: morimoto@infonode.ingr.com (Michael Morimoto)
Subject: Music Videos: Offer of Compilation...
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 00:13:49 GMT

I'm pretty sure that my original post did not get through...

There has been some interest in collecting anime-related music videos but no
'one-stop' source of these videos.  Well, I have 2 HiFi Stereo VCRs (One of 
them is S-VHS) and I offer to collect, compile, and distribute these videos.  
Submissions should be sent to:

			Anime Music Video Submissions
			c/o Michael Morimoto
			24161H Hollyoak,
			Laguna Hills, CA.  92656

Please send high quality copies on good quality tapes.  All tapes will be
kept my me to use as archival masters unless otherwise indicated.  I will
take the submissions and arrange them on compilation tape(s).  I reserve 
the right to reject poor quality material so please make sure to send the
best quality you can.  Submitters with receive a copy of the tape upon 
which their compilations reside.  Please include a Self-Addressed Stamped
Mailer (SASM).  This offer only valid if/when there is enough material to 
fill a T-120 tape.  I can handle Beta, but it's an old monophonic unit...
Submitters agree to have their material freely distributed.  This is done
by fans for fans for fandom.  If you want to e.mail me, write:

	morimoto@chatsubo.irvine.ingr.com

I look forward to hearing from you (and compiling those tapes!).
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Bay Area Con Politics
From: shogun@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Mike M. Tatsugawa)
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:26:27 PDT
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <BrspHx.IHz@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> deitrich@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dave Deitrich) writes:
>weird@netcom.com (Richard A. Ney) writes:
>>B) Why it would be difficult to hold on East Coast.
}
}}	   The main people who organize the Conventions are on the West Coast!

}}	   Instead of GoHs we would be flying Key organizers to East Coast to 
}}	   Run the Convention. 

}I don't mean this as a flame or anything, but I find it hard to believe that
}there is NO ONE on the east coast competent enough to run an anime convention.
}I've seen ads for plenty of sci-fi and Star Trek conventions east of the 
}Mississippi (some of them quite large), so there must be some people who have
}what it takes to organize a con.  I'm bet if you look hard enough you could
}find enough people willing to organize an East Coast anime con.

}Of course you guys on the West Coast have the edge in experience, but I 
}wouldn't think they'd have to fly you to the East Coast just to get advice.

I believe that Steve Pearl said that the preliminary movements were
being made for an east coast convention.  Besides, many of us are
students and don't want to transfer to a new school!

Mike
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From: albertw@netcom.com (Albert Wong)
Subject: Re: Anime Game Show
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 08:06:58 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Jul27.072442.10190@csus.edu> kilpatri@nextnet.csus.edu (Joseph Kilpatrick) writes:
>In article <#glmynd.albertw@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (Albert Wong) writes:
>
>I sampld a lot of those sounds, but since I have a 386 I couldn't really
>use them.  So, when I got MS Windows 3.1 I turned them into .wav files and
>now all my sounds are anime sounds...I even have anime wall paper....
>God, I am such an otaku... :-)

anime wall paper?  That's not unusual.  I have the Super Deformed AMP
characters from Silent Mobius as my Windows background.  My
startupsound is the first few seconds from Megazone 23 part
3..."Welcome to our cyberspace force" ^_^  A true otaku would change
the mouse cursor to a Jingoro or Neko-bus pointer. ^_^

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From: jkim@jingoro.Eng.Sun.COM (Jun Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Lodoss CD #3 song: Knight of Lodoss
Date: 24 Jul 1992 23:42:23 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: jingoro

In article <umadoka.711960154@mcl> umadoka@mcl.ucsb.edu (Ayukawa Madoka) writes:
                                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Acck!  This could be considered sacrilegious by some!  (Unless, of course,
you can do everything Ayukawa is supposed to be able to... )

;)


--
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Mountain View, CA           can generate enough energy to keep his legs moving"
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: USMC Dominion (dub)
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 17:09:08 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <1992Jul16.190526.29644@sura.net> wbarnes@sura.net writes:
 > >>From what I've heard of the USMC Dominion dubbing, I'm not looking forward
 > >>to seeing it, as supposedly the music has been changed.
 > >If true,that irritates me as well. I haven't run into the USMC version,but
 > >why would they change the BGM unless it had Japanese lyrics?
 > 
 > Guess what?  It did.

That's not the point, though. The music was very appropriate, and the
sung lyrics were very hard to notice... They might as well call
themselves Sandy Frank.

If the original soundtrack is not left, it's not the original anime any
more.

Poor lil' Leona... When I mentioned this at this week's Cal-A Zeta
meeting, there was a big cry of outrage. :)

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From: canders@isr.harvard.edu (Carl E. Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: New to Anime
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:20:19 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

In article <76358@ut-emx.uucp> cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner) writes:
>In article <BrqzxL.42v@news.cso.uiuc.edu> maxson@cerl.uiuc.edu (K R Maxson) writes:
>>she wrote.  I think shows like BGC, Dominion, and Gunbuster make poor
>>choices for "anime flagships," as it were -- they do not go very far
>>in portraying the depth and intelligence of a surprisingly large number
>>of other anime.
>
>Hey, DOMINION is what got -me- into Anime...... I only saw an 8th-generation
>copy of the original Japanese release, and I -still- laughed my ass off....
>If you look at what BGC is (Heavy Metal music and violence), what Dominion
>is (satire of "tough cop" shows) and what Gunbuster is (jigglejiggle), and
>don't try and treat them like they have to be some kind of intellectual
>stimulant, they are highly enjoyable.

	Hey, I got into anime through DP!  I also saw bits and snaps of
Vampire Hunter D and Yotoden and, of course, Akira.  This was back 4 or 5
years ago when getting tapes was nearly impossible for me, so I didn't
pursue it.  But when I saw the first 12 Ranma episodes last year, I was
really impressed and started picking up tapes.  
	And now that I've seen a bunch of anime, I find that I still prefer
the "entertainment" anime over the "high-art-intellectual" anime.  It's
just more fun!  I do appreciate the excellent craftsmanship in films like
Akira, but when I have time to watch a video, I want to kick back and be
entertained more often than not (maybe I'd go for the more intellectual
stuff outside a hectic lifestyle).
	Honestly some of my favorite stuff is Ranma (which is really well
done), A-ko, Gunbuster, Dominion, and of course the outrageous DP :)  The
one clear exception to this rule is Kiki's Delivery Service, which may be
just about my favorite anime so far (I'll have to watch it all again to
find out :)

Cheers,
Carl

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From: wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes)
Subject: Re: Deunan question
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:05:56 GMT

In article <5821@ucru2.ucr.edu> mito@watnxt1.ucr.edu (Jee Hoon Lee) writes:
>What European or Scandinavian nationality is Deunan Knute's name
>from?? I don't think Shirow just made it up.

Well, if I remember properly, Deunan's last name was originally "Nut."
I think Toren and co. explained to him how that would not exactly have
the desired effect on an English audience and they changed it to "Knute."
As for where he got "Deunan," your guess is as good as mine...
-- 
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Disclaimer:  The author apologizes for any thought-provoking material he may
	     have accidentally included and promises not to do it again.
Datclaimer:  My employers wouldn't WANT to share some of my opinions.