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From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: Blue Jays Logo
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:05:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: violet.1992Oct16.110515.1
Distribution: na,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

In article <masse.3.719251325@fox.nstn.ns.ca>, masse@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Francois Masse) writes:
> Does anyone have a Blue Jay GIF or preferably PCX file of their logo.  If 
> not could anyone tell me where I could get one?

I have a .GIF of Jim Acker, if you decide to settle for less.... :-)
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From: dporter@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Doug Porter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: Looking for a league
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:54:02 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

kenney@tribe.b17d.ingr.com (David Kenney) writes:

>Hi, all.  I'm looking for a play-by-email baseball league that uses the
>Pursue the Pennant Computer Game to play its games.  Does anyone know
>about the existence of such a league?

>If one doesn't exist, I might be willing to _HELP_ start one, but don't
>have the time to run such a league myself.


Me too!  I've played the last 3 years in an APBA computer run league, but
it died this year.  I would be very interested in a PTP league.

Doug
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From: bernstei@next3.corp.mot.com(Andrew Bernstein)
Subject: Statis Pro Baseball
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:20:54 GMT


Anybody had any experience playing this game?

My friend and I have played quite a bit and I would be interested in  
hearing about anybody elses experience with the game...!!


andrew,

bernstei@next3.corp.mot.com
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From: rbd@flash.ece.uc.edu (Bobby Davis)
Subject: Cardinal Pen
Organization: Unversity of Cincinnati, ECE Dept
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:38:49 GMT

I own Todd Worrell and Mike Perez, both at $10, and would like to
start drawing up some preliminary roster protection plans.  The salary
structure is the traditional $260 cap, and each would cost me $14 to
keep next year.

What I would like to know is the contract status of each of these
pitchers, and also that of Lee Smith.  I have gone through my second
straight closer-less year (and fared pretty well, as relievers tend
to be overpriced in our league), but am thinking about changing this
strategy next year.  (I also have Mark Wohlers at $10.)

So my questions are:

(1) Is Worrell going to be a free agent?

(2) Is Smith going to be a free agent?

(3) If answers to either of (1) or (2) are yes, where do the rumors have
    either pitcher going?

(4) Is it likely that one of Smith, Worrell, or Perez will be traded?

(5) Is it possible that Worrell would be left unprotected in the
    expansion draft?

(6) If Smith were to leave, which of Worrell or Perez would take the
    closer role?

Answers from anyone who follows the Cardinals closely (or anyone else
who happens to know the answers!) would be appreciated.

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From: pigeon@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stuart Schulman)
Subject: Looking for a Bay Area NL Rotisserie League
Keywords: NL Rotisserie
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 04:18:55 GMT

Hi, Folks.

I've been competing in a NJ/PA-based Rotisserie League the past six years.
For the past three I've been situated in the SF Bay Area.  This makes 
attending drafts a difficult proposition.

While I'd like to continue to be involved with my current league, I'd like to 
get involved in a second league here in SF/Silicon Valley.  My preference would
be a NL league which plays by (or close to) the "book rules".  Stakes are
flexible; something in the 20-to-25 cent on the Rotissedollar range would be
ideal.

Many leagues are looking for more owners with expansion.  If you're looking
for an owner, drop me a line!

Stuart Schulman
pigeon@leland.stanford.edu



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From: s1071348@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Malcolm Webster)
Subject: Players Positions
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:07:16 GMT

Hello everyone,
                Could someone please post me a list of all the players (NL +
AL) showing the position that each plays?

Thanks,
Mal.



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From: maceache@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Tim Maceachern)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: ALCS Prediction update
Summary: ALCS prediction update
Keywords: ALCS prediction
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:14:10 GMT
Organization: NSTN Network Operations Centre, Nova Scotia, Canada

Not too often I get a prediction and a wish right... Alomar stole 5 bases,
Henderson 2.

Also, my wish that we could get 3-1 out of Cone/Guzman and 1-2 from Morris
(made after game 1 loss) was fulfilled, assuming Morris would have lost
game seven (shiver!)

How about WS predictions anybody?  Can Gruber get back up to highway numbers?
Can Alomar get a hit a game?  Will Morris pitch more than 6 innings TOTAL?

Tune in, same time, same station.

Jays in 6.  Key loses big 1-0 game again!!

Tim MacEachern
Date: Wednesday, 14 Oct 1992 23:01:56 EST
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: 15/16 chance that pirates will win nlcs.

hmm... the braves have just won the nlcs.  after going fifteen for
fifteen, i am now unexplicably oh for two.

this clearly has something to do with skyrocketing player salaries.




Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: mjones@fenway.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Mike Jones)
Subject: Re: Random musings upon perusing Baseball Weekly statistics
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 21:07:14 GMT
Reply-To: mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Corp. Kingston NY

In article <1992Oct7.115925.1@sscvx1.ssc.gov> kasper@sscvx1.ssc.gov writes:
>1. At 5 of 6 positions (excluding P,C,1B) the difference in range factor
>between the best and worst "regular" (>700 innings) is larger in the national
>league than in the american league.  The difference is particularly noticeable
>in the outfield.

  [interesting stats deleted]
>RF AL           2.22                    Whiten   2.36   Bichette   2.04  .32
>RF NL           2.07                    Justice  2.42   Dawson     1.77  .65
>
>Explanation, if warranted?

I'd suspect that most of these "bottom-of-the-barrel" NL OFs would be
playing DH if they were on an AL team. I think that the average NL park is
somewhat larger than the average AL park, also, which gives NL outfielders
more ground to cover. We may also be seeing an artifact of the measurement -
range factor will penalize outfielders who play on teams that throw lots of
ground balls and all fielders for teams whose pitchers have lots of
strikeouts. It's also subject to distortions caused by lefty/righty pitching
splits.
 
>3. The new Ruben ("I'm going to work hard on my fielding") Sierra had pitiful
>fielding stats again this year (2.06 range factor compared to league average
...
>meaning in this - assists are a notoriously bad way to evaluate the throwing
>ability of outfielders because runners almost certainly take fewer chances
>against fielders with good arms thus giving those with good arms fewer
>opportunities for assists)....
Actually, Stats Inc. looked at this a couple of years ago and found that
this isn't really true. Guys with a rep for good arms (like Mark Whiten and
Andre Dawson) didn't, in general, have fewer chances at assists than other
outfielders.
 
>4. Chris Hoiles throws out only 20% of base stealers. Is this a comment on
>Hoiles' arm or on O's pitchers? Both?
Probably both. People who should know (i.e., base stealers) say that they
often steal bases on the pitcher at least as much as the catcher. There's
statistical evidence for this, too: there's significant variation among the
stolen bases allowed by pitchers on a team.

>5. Cleveland hit 33 points higher at home than on the road (.283/.250); San
>Diego 31 points higher (.271/.239), and Boston 26 points higher (.259/.233). 
>Milwaukee hit 16 points higher on the road (.260/.276).  All other
>differentials ar much smaller.  Explanation?

Cleveland may be a fluke. San Diego and Boston both have very good hitter's
parks (for average). Milwaukee (at least this year) apparently has a brutal
pitchers' park. The teams with good hitters' parks get a boost to the
"normal" home field advantage. 

   Mike Jones  |  AIX/ESA Development  |  mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com

Do it. It's easier to get forgiveness than permission.
	- Grace Murray Hopper.
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From: jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com  (Jeff Heilner)
Subject: Re: Australian Novice Asks Dumb Questions
Organization: SPS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 18:32:03 GMT

In article <joeb.718982665@cserver> joeb@cserver.plexus.com (Joe Brotz)  
writes:
> > jrm@zeta.ma.adfa.oz.au (John R Marley) writes:
> > 
> > Hello, I'm posting this for my flat-mate who's a big fan of Major
> > League Baseball.  He wants to know ALL the rule differences between
> > the AL and the NL, and which set of rules get used in the World
> > Series.
> 
> The one and only rule difference between the AL and the NL is the 
> designated hitter (DH) rule. 

I believe there is one other small rule difference...in the American  
League no inning may begin after 1:00 AM local time, in the National  
League there is no such curfew.

I don't know what happens if a World Series game goes past 1:00 AM. 

Ok...it's trivial, but it's a difference. :)

- Jeff

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From: jrm@zeta.ma.adfa.oz.au (John R Marley)
Subject: Australian Novice Asks Dumb Questions
Organization: Maths Dept., A.D.F.A., Canberra, Australia
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 07:19:32 GMT

Hello, I'm posting this for my flat-mate who's a big fan of Major League
Baseball.  He wants to know ALL the rule differences between the AL and the NL,
and which set of rules get used in the World Series.

I hope someone is kind enough to take the time to reply to this..

Thanks in advance,

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From: RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: barrywatch
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:52:34 GMT

swing and a miss, no balls, one strike
swing and a miss, no balls, two strike
swing and a miss, strikeout

0-1, 1 strikeout
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: Ahn@pop.cis.yale.edu (Eugene R. Ahn)
Subject: Re: NLCS Game #5 at 9:41
Followup-To: rec.sport.baseball
Organization: Yale University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 08:31:55 GMT

In article <Ahn-101092214135@branford-college-node.net.yale.edu>,
Ahn@pop.cis.yale.edu (Eugene R. Ahn) wrote:
> 
> Game is tied at 2 a piece at the top of the third in a matchup of Game 1's
> pitchers Smoltz and Drabek.
> 
> Both the Pirates and the Braves stranded a runner at 3rd in the 1st. With
> Nixon at 3rd with one out, Pendleton popped out to shallow CF and Justice
> fouled out to Merced. Nixon stranded.
> 
> Alex Cole and Jay Bell both struck out. Andy Van Slyke crushed a line drive
> down the RF line. The ball bounces off the wall (parallel to the foul line)
> at a sharp angle back to CF. Justice is way out of play. Slyke gets a
> triple. Bonds walked. Jeff King KO's. 
> 
> Braves stuck first in the top of the 2nd. Bream grounded out to Bell. Gant
> hit a weak bouncer to the mound, Drabek was rushed and threw wide. Gant
> safe at first. Gant running as Berrhill grounds out to Lind. Gant safe at
> 2nd, Berrhill out at first. Lemke up at the plate. Leyland (who McCarver
> described as "fearless" earlier on in the game) decides to intentionally
> walk the slugger and with Lemke and Gant on 1st and 2nd with 2 down, John
> Smoltz hit a solid hit into CF. Gant safe at home after Van Slyke missed
> his cutoff man (almost got Gant, threw a little too far to his left. only a
> perfect throw would have had him). Lemke at third. Smoltz at first. Otis
> Nixon who had a leadoff basehit in the 1st, slashes a single into RF. Lemke
> scores. Smoltz at 2nd, Nixon at 1st. Blauser grounds out to Lind.
> 
> The Pirates come right back thanks to what I would define as a double
> error. Merced lines out to LF. LaValliere grounds up the middle. Lemke
> makes a tough grab but throws off balance. Throw bounces into the ground
> and is wide. Spanky safe at 1st (I think the Pirates requested the ball to
> be taken out of play as a souvenier for Spanky's infield hit). Jose Lind
> hits a nice stroke to the OF (I forget where). Drabek then walks. Bases
> loaded. Alex Cole hits a ground ball up the middle. Jeff Blauser makes a
> sweet diving catch, but he gets a bad grip on the ball and fails to throw a
> force play at 2nd. He then pumps again and throws home (Lavalliere already
> scored, Lind heading home). It's weak and Berryhill tags the runner without
> the ball. 2-2. Jay Bell hits a deep fly to CF. Drabek tags up. Van Slyke
> strikes out on three nice curveballs. End of 2nd. 

Uh, make that game #4.

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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Jays/Braves Comparison
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:52:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.Bw6nG1.AFA
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network


  CATEGORY          JAYS        BRAVES
  ============================================

 Starting-pitching   good      Other than Smoltz it is suspect

  Bull-pen           Excellent    not that great
 
  Hitting             good           good

  Defence             good          good

  Home-field          Nope           Yes

  Intangibles        cannot say      luck...o yeah...
  =================================================

S.H
forever Twins
From: anderson@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (anderson peter john)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: The 1992 Ex-Cub All-Stars
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:26:05 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

It's that time of year again, when all of us sufferers sigh and say,
"What might have been..."

C-  Damon Berryhill (10 HR, 43 RBI)
1B- Rafael Palmeiro (.268, 22 HR, 85 RBI)
2B- Scott Fletcher (.275, 17 SB)
SS- Curtis Wilkerson (.250, 18 SB)
3B- Chico Walker (.289, 15 SB)
OF- Joe Carter (34 HR, 119 RBI, 12 SB)
OF- Darrin Jackson (17 HR, 70 RBI, 14 SB)
OF- George Bell (25 HR, 112 RBI)
OF- Mel Hall (.280, 15 HR, 81 RBI)
SP- Bob Tewksbury (16-5, 2.16 ERA, 20 BB in 33 starts)
SP- Rick Sutcliffe (16-15, 4.47 ERA, 5 complete games)
RP- Dennis Eckersley (7-1, 1.91 ERA, 51 saves)
RP- Lee Smith (4-9, 3.12 ERA, 43 saves)

What the Cubs currently have to show for the above transactions:
Turk Wendell, Luis Salazar, Sammy Sosa, Ken Patterson, Bob Scanlan,
Chuck McElroy

Comments:
1. I realize, of course, that these guys never would have stolen so many
bases had they still been with the Cubs.  Even Bell had 5 this year.
2. Tewksbury and Eckersley were, admittedly, worthless at the time the
Cubs dumped them.
3. Note the Rolaids Relief Man of the Year in both leagues was an ex-Cub.
Think Lefebvre would have used a committee with either of these guys around?
4. The Joe Carter trade STILL PISSES ME OFF after all these years.



--Pete    (anderson@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)


"If it takes forever..."

	--Cub slogan

"It just might..."

	--me
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From: kjmcrae@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (insert name here)
Subject: What the $%#!@& are you talkin' about?!? (was Re: boo jays)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:02:02 GMT

In article <Bw5CIK.69u@mach1.wlu.ca>, bellswor@mach1.wlu.ca (bob ellsworth s) writes:
> let me count the ways i hate you boo jays:
> 
> reason 792: jays fans insist on waving the canadian flag at home/away games
> implying (somehow) that this is a canadian baseball team. WRONG. it is
> an american team. please don't wave my country's flag at you fuckin'
> dome no more.                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
      Huh? 

	Gee, I guess since no Blue Jays are Canadian, then it is wrong for 
any Canadian to cheer for them.  Yeah, sure....

	Listen, the only reason that the Blue Jays fans wave those Canadian
flags at games is because there is only 1 Canadian team (and yes, it really 
IS Canadian!) in the AL.  Perhaps if there were more Canadian cities in the
majors, then the Blue Jays (or the Expos in their prime) would not be labelled 
"Canada's team", as I've quite often heard in the media.
	Is there an "America's team" in baseball?  No, because all but 2 of the
teams are based in U.S. cities.  
	And another thing, if I'm at a game, I can wave any damn flag I want
to!  As a matter of fact, the next Toronto game I go to, I think beforehand 
I'll go out & buy the biggest Canadian flag money can buy so I can wave it
during the TV broadcasts just to spite you!
 
> reason 1001: i feel the reason most people in TO (at least) hope for
> this stupid team is because it (somehow) brings american recognition 
> to their stupid city. they (jays fans) get so annoyed when american
> (cbs) announcers do not drool over their stupid baseball team like
> the local (dickhead) commentators do.

	I don't care that the CBS announcers don't "drool" over the Jays.  As
a matter of fact, of all the years I've watched U.S. broadcasters cover Jays
games, I think this year they've been very good -- giving credit where credit
was due.  But how could you NOT, with the team Toronto has this year (and yes,
it is TORONTO's TEAM).

> reason 40995: they bought all their good players anyway.

	Unlike ANY OTHER TEAM in the majors, of course!!! ;)
	       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> reason 45: the way the team treated r. ducey (lest we forget dickhead
> jay fans as we use the term WE oh so loosely)

	Ducey never fit into the lineup.  Besides, he never did anything to 
really prove himself worthy at the major league level except for a couple of
seasons back, but then he got injured -- too bad, but these things happen.


...km
"I'm a man who respects a good coma." - J.Seinfeld
From: hambric@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Hambric)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Random musings upon perusing Baseball Weekly statistics
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:16:41 GMT
Reply-To: hambric@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Hambric)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.sport.baseball, kasper@sscvx1.ssc.gov writes:

>                LEAUGUE AVG             BEST            WORST           DIFF
>
>3B AL           2.77                    Ventura  3.30   Lansford  2.29  1.01
							 ^^^^^^^^
Amazing.  The Washington Post, in its playoff preview of the AL Championship
Series, raved about "...the imeasurable impact of Carney Lansford's
great defense on the A's starting pitching staff..."

Steve Hambric (hambric@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
Date: Wednesday, 14 Oct 1992 19:27:14 EST
From: <RVESTERM@vma.cc.nd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: the ghost of barrywatch.

due to popular demand, barrywatch has risen from the grave for
game seven.  hopefully the ghost of barrywatch will cause less
people to call me "asshole" than the original did, but i am willing
to be called an asshole again for the sake of progress.

(first inning.  one out.  men on second and third.  zip up.)

intentional walk.

0-0, 1 bb
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: RE: Bonds Testy
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:46:28 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com

In article <8OCT199213113291@cats.ucis.vill.edu>  
mcclure@cats.ucis.vill.edu (MCCLURE HAROLD) writes:
> Kurt Bose must have misheard the CBS guy's question in the same way  
that 
> Barry Bonds did. In postseason, he was in a slump. Yes, he did get  
a hit 
> yesterday and they did score in one run, but it was quickly a  
meaningless
> inning when the Braves jumped up 13-4.

Are you saying that Bonds' hit was somehow a lesser accomplishment
because Pirate pitching subsquently allowed the game to get out
of reach?

> 
> I did not realize this before, but Bonds isn't exactly a team  
player. I know 
> team spirit is much overrated, but stats aren't the Alpha and Omega  
either. 
> I would bet the ranch that Jim Leyland wished he had Pendleton over  
Bonds
> for the next couple of games. 

Nah, Leyland's a smart guy. He would never wish for something that
silly.  Pendleton's good, but Bonds is the best player in baseball
right now.

By the way, from what I've heard, Bonds over the last few months
has been doing a very good job of talking up how good his
teammates are, and encouraging folks.  

>At least, Terry would take the team bus. He 
> would also encourage his teammates even if he were in a postseason  
slump
> (which by the way, he ain't). 

Neither is Bonds, unless you are defining post-season is some
novel and meaningless way.  2 games is not a slump, even if a player 
goes 0-5 in each (and Bonds didn't).  Calling 2 a two-game strectch
a slump is silly.

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Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com  
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From: eboritz@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Efrim Boritz)
Subject: Re: TORONTO BLUE JAYS CLINCHED THE AL EAST!!!!!
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:30:40 GMT

In article <17932@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Frog Baseball Huckabay) writes:
>
>If you're a Jays fan, just ask yourself: What if Rickey gets hot?
>

Sure, go ahead and put my worst nightmare into words for me
to stare at. At least they don't have Canseco anymore.

Tell me Rickey is still hurting. PLEASE.

Nick
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From: carlo@electro.electro.com (Carlo Sgro)
Subject: Re: Cito Manages reasonable in Game #1
Organization: Electrohome Ltd., Kitchener, ON, Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:53:23 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.220559.22405@news2.cis.umn.edu> thornley@deci.cs.umn.edu (David H. Thornley) writes:
>In the defense of Cito, why expect him to face down Morris when Kelly left
>him in through the tenth in a more critical game?  

Because he had much better stuff in last year's 7th game?

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