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From: seifert@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael S. Seifert)
Subject: Re: NO MORE *&#*$(^*& FEMALE BIMBO ADS!!!!!!!!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 05:47:05 GMT

In article <Paula_Lieberman.071i@amicol.UUCP> Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman) writes:
>addendum to previous article:  Don't whistle at women, and they won't get
>pissed off about it.  If you're going to whistle, then you ARE deserving of
>any and all shit that hits you for it.  It -is- sexual harassment, whether
>YOU think so or not, and it IS a crime in the United States.
>
Thinking that whistling at a female is sexual harassment and is (or even 
should be) a crime in the US makes you a sniveling liberal in my book.

If you want real sexual harASSment (lets not glorify the term by pronouncing
it different here in the 90s), you should see me slap girls in the ass just
because I can...

mike seifert, real harasser
From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God!  Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Distribution: world
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:21:24 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <69117@cup.portal.com> Bolt@cup.portal.com (Eric J Rainbolt) writes:
>Dear Fellow Amigan,
>
>I heard some frightful news from a friend of mine:
>
>heidi@zeus.c-engr2.siu.edu
>
>Over the weekend, she placed an order for an IBM clone.  Yuck!!!!!
>Aaaaaaaaaargggggg.   Puke!!!!!!!!  Barf City!!!!!!!
>(Do you know what I mean).
>
>She doesn't know much at all about computers, all she know is that
>she feels she should have one because she is in Electrical Engineering.
>
>I told her I was mad at myself for not showing off the power of the Amiga.
>
>I truly believe my A500 (designed in 1985 and running at 7.16 Mhz), totally
>blows away IBM pieces of shit running at 33Mhz.  {All my classmates seem
>to have IBM clones of some sort, and they do nothing but complain and send
>their motherboards in for new ones all the time;  and they also suffer
>from an inferiority complexes when I show off my Amiga}.
>
>I like Heidi, so I want her to be happy, and I feel it would be best
>if she cancelled her order and instead purchased an Amiga.
>
>You duty is to write her reasons why she would be better off and much
>happier with an Amiga computer.  She is buying an IBM because everybody
>else has one.  (Boy there are alot of stupid people who think they really
>know something.)
>
>i.e  "Hey, I know MS-DOS", one might say....
>
>     "Yeah, and I know how to tie my shoe, so what?" I usually reply. 
>
>We gotta be arrogant, after all we did make the more intelligent decision
>before; it's our right.  Please stop her from supporting crap
>engineering, and let her give the profit to the makers of the Amiga.

One of the reasons that people feel that they have to run MSDOS (blech!) is
that it is entrenched in universities.  In an EE course, FORTRAN compilers
are important, and probably attainable through student discounts.  If a
course requires that documents be delivered on floppy in MS Word format,
then an Amiga won't help.  If circuit design requires the use of specific
CAD software, then the Amiga won't help.

The purchase of a computer for college work is controlled by the constraints
of the school that you are attending.  Unfortunately.

--
Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.

		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root

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From: hanscs@dhhalden.no (HANS CHRISTIAN SANDER)
Subject: Re: **** A1200 Info **** (200+ lines)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:20:58 GMT

>>HAM painting programs (and *only* they) have to deal with this. And there
>>are some of them that do it astonishingly nicely.
>
>This just proves what I always said about HAM, nice for static and
>semi-static pictures. Even Commodore employes can only imagine painting
>programs to ever wish to change pixel values in a HAM screen.
>

And animation, dope-head.
Hans C Sander

>Case closed.
>
>	Nat!
>(#1#)
>Amiga lamers take note: looking at a pixel does NOT mean in this case
>looking at the monitor and identifing it as "sorta-mellow-brownish-
>with-a-blue-tint".
>-- 
> -----   Email: wallmann@backus.pu.informatik.th-darmstadt.de  -----
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>Album of the month: "The plague that.." Infectious Grooves (an oldie)
>
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From: leifv@dhhalden.no (LEIF HUGO VARUM)
Subject: Re: Games and the C64...
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:46:09 GMT

>>So do I...but just in case you didn't know; there exists a Pharaoh's Curse 
>>(PD) for the Amiga and it's a complete clone of the 64 version, same sound, 
>>same gfx and same exellent gameplay!
>
>Please, upload it somewhere!

Pharaoh's Curse is now available at:
    ftp.dhhalden.no
in directory:
    /upload/amiga
or:
   /amiga

The file is called 'p_curse.exe'. Have fun!

>
>>I've also heard about an Amiga version of Frantic Freddie for Amiga (also 
>>just like the 64 version).
>
>Yep, I have it. Isn't it available by FTP?
>
Nope...please upload.

BTW: Where can I find the Amiga version of C64 Donkey-Kong? I've seen 
a review of it in some british mag. Anyone?

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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  Oh my God!  Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Distribution: world
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:49:38 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <1992Nov10.114519.2935@city.cs> lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
>In article <root.02qj@rkamiga.UUCP> root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>>One of the reasons that people feel that they have to run MSDOS (blech!) is
>>that it is entrenched in universities.  In an EE course, FORTRAN compilers
>>are important, and probably attainable through student discounts.  If a
>>course requires that documents be delivered on floppy in MS Word format,
>>then an Amiga won't help.  If circuit design requires the use of specific
>>CAD software, then the Amiga won't help.
>
>Well I am given to understand that Wordworth 2 can output in MS Word
>format - I'd have to check it out specifically. Then using CrossDos
>you just hand in your floppy.

That's good!

>>The purchase of a computer for college work is controlled by the constraints
>>of the school that you are attending.  Unfortunately.
>
>The Amiga can overcome those constraints :-)

Except where certain particular development products are concerned.

Way back in the dim mists of time I was taking some CS classes that required
all work to be done in Pascal.  The computing facility at the school was a
Cyber 170 mainframe that had the capability for 900+ simultaneous users and
used the original Zurich Pascal compiler that was limited to the language
as it was originally described by Jensen and Wirth.

I had access to an Apple II+ and UCSD Pascal, which fleshed out the language
so that it was useful for writing real world apps.  The Apple allowed me to
write code whenever I wanted to, while I might have to spend hours waiting
to get on to the mainframe.  Even though I could write code on the Apple,
I still had to print it out, and then type it into the mainframe as they didn't
support any facilities for software upload.  And the course professors wanted
on line code.

If a professor demands Borland C code that uses Borland C specific libraries,
then you have to use a clone, since Borland doesn't yet support the Amiga.

--
Rick Kelly		Rick's Amiga		Framingham, Mass.

		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root
From: matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Date: 9 Nov 92 11:06:23 GMT
Organization: The DSV institute of Stockholm, Sweden
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

David Stuart Griffiths (griffita@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:

: I agree, in this SPECIFIC case, the Amiga WOULD be a mistake.

If you're not interested in computers buy a PC. Do I need to explain my
point?

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From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: An Amiga *ADVANTAGE*
Date: 6 Nov 92 08:24:59 PST
Organization: TAP

Quoted from <1992Nov4.190208.4263@usl.edu> by das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A):

> This brings up somehting I have always wondered: is there such as things
> as music scores in .gif ro somesuch format?  I am a musician (no, really!)

    Yes, there are file formats for scores. I don't know if there's a
    standard though, and I've never seen score files on bulletin
    boards.

> I assume that is meant by 'music DTP'?

    Good scoring software isn't cheap, nor is it widespread. I guess
    as a result there hasn't been a need to develop a standard file
    format like GIF or IFF.

> Dan Stephenson                                                 das9674@usl.edu  
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From: storm@cs.mcgill.ca (Marc WANDSCHNEIDER)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Games and the C64...
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:40:12 GMT
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1992Nov4.181755.2859@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>In article <Bx6DBq.ByC@cs.dal.ca> dinn@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael 'Moose' Dinn)
>writes:
>
>>I hauled out my C128 after a 4 year no-play-with.
>>I love it.
>>Games that are PLAYABLE (and typically under 170K :).
>
>And all things considered, I'd say that entertainment software on the 8-bit
>platforms remains far more innovative in comparison to today's offerings.
>Of course, it may be entirely the result of the more lucrative console
>market.
>
>Remember Raid on Bungling Bay and Lode Runner? Classics.

	Truly some of the better games back then.

	My all time favorite game though, still has to be Archon.  I used
to play this thing quite a few times a day, and after a while, started
trying to master if every which way possible (Ie, destroying the entire
enemy team with only a knight or a goblin...etc)

	Shamus was also a pretty snarfy game (From Synapse as far as I
recall...)

	ToodlepIP!
	Marc 'em.
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From: eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen)
Subject: Re: Please, CBM.. Make a new machine
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 20:31:41 GMT

[long article - removed]

I second that!  Commodore, I REFUSE to buy a 1200 until a PCMCIA-GVP HD widget is
made available.  I MEAN IT (they're shaking now...  NOT!).

I can't even hook the drive up internally, as the 1200 uses IDE whereas GVP use
SCSI...

DO IT!

-Eyvind

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From: x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:17:19 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Nov10.015957.14956@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, stevew@convx1.dseg.ti.com (Steve Wootton) writes:
> In article <1944@vall.dsv.su.se> matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg) writes:
>>David Stuart Griffiths (griffita@fraser.sfu.ca) wrote:
>>
>>> I agree, in this SPECIFIC case, the Amiga WOULD be a mistake.
>>If you're not interested in computers buy a PC. Do I need to explain my
>>point?
> 
> Yep, this is true.  When you decide that computers are not an end in
> themselves, you buy a PC.  When you realize that what you really need is an
> office automation tool, something as dull and reliable as a typewriter or a
> copier or a fax machine or a rolodex, you buy a PC.  When it becomes
> important to you to be able to choose from thousands of business
> applications because it's business that puts the food on your plate rather
> than the ability to show off some cool demos, you join the ranks of those 
> who have bought those infamously boring 95 million PCs.
> 
> Thanks for clearing that up.
> 
> -- 
> Steve Wootton  --  stevew@mksol.dseg.ti.com
> Hey, don't blame TI... they haven't told me what to say.

	Your depth of knowledge on PCs are stunning.  I wish I could get you
over here so that I could educate you a bit on what PCs can really do.
The Amiga may be best at being a "cool" toy but PCs are quite good
at being toys also...along with getting REAL work done with too.

						-Brad


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From: raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez)
Subject: Re: DAN IS GETTING UPSET! (was Re: SKIP'S POINTS ARE *SILLY*! ;)Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!)
Organization: UPR-Mayaguez--ASEL Lab
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:48:52 GMT

[major stuff deleted]

|> 
|> >>It does sell for $2795 and is at least equivalent to a 486-50DX2 with MCA
|> >>or EISA, LocalBus coprocessed SVGA, a SoundBlaster, and OS/2.
|> >
|> >Skip, are you aware of the datarates in the EISA? MCA? LOCALBUS?  Man, 
|> >Localbus is wicked fast.  And one thing your A4000 cannot do out of the box: 
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> Duh, the Amiga has had "localbus" video all along.  Leave it to the Clone
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  True... but....:

    LocalBus is supposed to run @ the same speed of the CPU.

    The AmiBus runs @ 14Mhz (from Byte, first issue), but it has to
 do an interleave with the 68000 (7Mhz CPU) so it goes @ 7Mhz (I hope
 Dave Haynie will correct me!).  So, on the A4000, with 4x the bandwith
 we are supposed to get an effective "28 Mhz" bus speed, which is quite
 exceptional.  But then, a 486 @ 50Mhz with local bus *is supposed to do*
 50Mhz on the LocalBus...  Ouch!


|> makers to jump on the bandwagon and then pretend like they are the leaders.

   About originality, innovation and leadership, I agree.  Clones are dumb.

|> 
|> As for data rates, are you aware of how fast Zorro III is?  Alot faster and
|> more elegant than the EISA kludge and faster than the MCA that IBM uses in
|> their PS/2s.  If Dave Haynie is reading this, he'll set you straight.  :-)

   Yep, also heard that from another source (Zorro III being ultracool)
although there's supposed to be a new implementation of MCA (not on 
PS/2's) which is supposed to be better.

|> 
|> >run Windows.  (Ohh, I *knew* that would get you! ;)  )
|> 
|> Give me a break.  Windows is crap and I don't even use it on the whoop-ass
|> Clone on my desk at work.  Why would I want to cripple the Amiga with a
|> piece of junk program launcher sitting on top of a non-OS?

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

     I LOVE THIS!!!!! I WANT TO USE THIS QUOTE FOR SIGNATURES!

  Please Skip, can I License it? :-)


|> 
|> >Dan Stephenson                                                 das9674@usl.edu  
|> >"There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while we
|> >lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
|> >                        -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival  
|> 
|> 
|> Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate & PC Basher
|> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
|> 
|> 

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From: jhp3x@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Jeffrey Howard Porter)
Subject: Re: Oh my God!  Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:40:38 GMT

>
>Support Virginia Tech (and all other schools that support Amiga)!
>

Support Va Tech unless you go to the University of Virginia of course!
But seriously I wish that more schools supported the Amiga, although
Tech requires the Amiga with UNIX, that is a start. They want their CS
majors to have a UNIX machine and the 3000UX is a great set up for the
price!

Jeff Porter
EE- UVA

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From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin Black)
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:20:41 GMT

x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:

>In article <1992Nov10.092220.18218@news.uit.no>, kjelli@stud.cs.uit.no (Kjell Irgens) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov8.220520.6234@gw.wmich.edu> x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>>>	I used to have an Amiga and when I went to a PC I vowed to
>>>make sure it did mroe than my Amiga did and it does.  My PC blows
>>>away any Amiga I have ever seen in terms of graphics, sound, animation
>>                                                        ^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^^
>> 
>> This is _bullshit_, and that makes your whole article luck silly.....
>> comp.sys.amiga.advocacy don't need this kinda crap!

>	Sorry to burst your bubble but it's true.  Besides, it is
>yoru advocacy area, but I am not going to just read BS by you guys
>stating thta your Amiga 500s can run circles around my 486.
>	I will concede that I firmly believe that an Amiga 4000 with
>the right software.
>	Furthermore, the key point I made, I have never SEEN an Amiga
>set up that can beat my setup in terms of graphics, sound and animation.
>This is true.  I have seen a LOT of Amiga set ups and they all bring
>me over to show me how great their Amgia can do this and I leave with
>a slight headache over their blurry monitors, their 4 channel digitized
>squawk noises and lemmings cartoons and space demos.  These machines
>are generally Amiga 500 and 2000s.  Now we can sit here and argue that
>the Amiga 1200 could do such and the Amiga 4000 can do some incredible
>thing, but the point is, how many of you actually have an Amiga 4000?
>Face it, most of you have Amiga 500s, 2000s and maybe a couple of you
>hvae an Amiga 3000.  My machine could be made better too.  Afterall,
>we could argue back and forth with lines such as "We, they have
>an IBM with the mega ultra graphics and 24 channel sound, etc." and you
>can volley back "well, the Amiga 4000 has a new 24 bit super graphics
>animator with 72 channel, 120khz sound sampling..." or whatever.  The
>key point, I have a machine that whips any Amiga 500 and 2000 in terms
>of sound and graphics and animation.  Maybe eventually I will meet someone
>who has an Amiga 3000 with animation that will make my head turn, but
>I am not going to hold my breath.

Oh that is nice, compare an a2000 with a 486 clone.  Even though a2000 
really is on the grounds on an 286 clone.  Really the a3000 is very low
priced, the a1200 is low, and if you compare a comparable 486 clone
[ Which would have to be one with eisa slots ] the a4000 is low priced.
And I am talking about today's prices, since the title of this thread is
my friend is buying an ibm, like in the present and not the past.  And you
might say the stock amiga doesn't come with everything that some clone 
might have.  Well I got a clue for you, neither does the clone.  It has
added on soundcards, we can add on soundcards, It has 24bit graphics cards
[ that by the way because of the bad design of ibm causes it to monopolize
the system ] and we can have 24bit graphics cards.

Martin
From: lozinski@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Lozinski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Fonts2
Date: 7 Nov 92 02:31:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

As a follow up, does anyone have PD fonts for Pagestream too?

If so, could you e-mail them to me at
 
-lozinski@csugrad.cs.vt.edu.

If you know where I could get some, that would be of help too.

Thanx.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: A4000 case design (was Re: Top 10 reasons why ...)
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:58:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.191429.15805@ra.msstate.edu>, skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
|> 
|> BTW, as none of the magazines saw fit to print detailed photos of the insides
|> of an A4000, I'll photograph it from every angle, both fully assembled and
|> as disassembled as I dare, then post the scanned images on the net.  I long

Bless you! Finally, some real pix...

|> for the good old days when AmigaWorld, Byte, AC, and others could be counted
                              ^^^^^^^^^^
      
WHEN were the "good old days" of AmigaWorld? It's always been basically flash-
trash... looks cute, no real news. AW is getting a little better, if anything.

AC surprised me, tho. Too bad we still don't have Amiga Sentry around to do
a good in-depth look, or .info to give a good enduser perspective. 

Well, maybe the first issue of Amiga.info will do a spot on the A4000.

|> on to do this whenever an new Amiga was released.


|> Skip Sauls
|> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

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From: cshort@nmsu.edu (MetaPope, Internet in a Day Tour.)
Subject: amiga in mondo2000
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 03:26:45 GMT


Mondo2000 Issue 7 

an article about the new wireless EEG to mac hardware being quoted
sans permission:

...Members of Austin's Robot Group help wire IBVA (Interactive Brainwave
Vsual Analyzer) into a portable MIDI/Video studio. The love the unit
and see vast potential alongside their own brand of cybernetic art.
However, "Mac may be great for software virtuosity, but if you want to
sell to artists, develope for an Amiga" sex Alex IIes. "That would
provide a common platform for reasonably priced VR tools, like Vivid
Effects' Madala for video-based computer control...

source:
Interactive Brain Wave
Visual Analyzer
for macintosh systems: $995
Psychic Lab Inc.
280 Park Ave South, Suite 7G
New York, NY 10010
Vox:(212) 353-1669
Fax:(212) 979 5624

maybe we should all give them a call and inquire towards developing
for that amiga thing thing.
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