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From: shmulevi@gibbs.physics.purdue.edu (Ilya Shmulevich)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Zenit - E
Keywords: Zenit
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:06:32 GMT
Reply-To: shmulevi@physics.purdue.edu
Followup-To: rec.photo
Organization: Physics Department, Purdue University

In article <1992Sep5.213412.13211@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>, mkuhn@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Martin W Kuhn) writes:
> Well, the Zenit E is a fairly common russian SLR, and is the current
> version of the vererable Zenit (I think so, anyway)   I don't think it
> has any sort of auto exposure. (It is very difficult to have autoexposure
> on a screw-mount camera-- it has been done, however)  Heck, I think the
> Zenit hasn't even gotten as far as the  non-rotating shutter speed dial!
> It does have a coupled meter, however.

  [stuff deleted]

> Well, mechanical clunkers like the Zenit are fun.  However, if you were
> thinking of using it for more serious purposes, you should be warned that
> Soviet cameras are not very reliable in general, so be careful.  You should
> be able to get $25 worth of fun out of it though!  :-)
> 
>                          --Marty

  I have a Zenit Avtomat. It is NOT a screw-mount camera, but rather a
  Pentax K-Mount (bayonet). It is automatic in the sense that it is
  aperture priority. It has 2 LED's inside the viewfinder which tell you
  whether or not exposure time is OK. For example, if the lower LED is lit,
  the exposure is longer than 1/30sec... if the upper LED is lit, the
  exposure must be faster than 1/1000sec (max). If the LED's are blinking,
  you are OK. It came also with Helios f2/58mm lens which is QUITE GOOD. It
  is actually made in the same factory which used to be Carl Seiss (sp?)
  factory (German). It has over/under exposure dial which ranges from -2 to
  +2 and uses the ISO standard for film sensitivity. It has standard flash
  mount, a socket for synch (X-standard), and even a socket for remote
  control. The camera is VERY rugged as well.  

  Now I am not familiar with the Zenit E model (is this screw-mount?), but
  the model that I own is excellent.

  regards,

  ------------------------  Ilya Shmulevich  ----------------------------
  shmulevi@ecn.purdue.edu |                 | shmulevi@physics.purdue.edu
  Electrical Engineering  |                 | Physics
  Signal Processing       |                 | Systems Programmer
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From: andyc@hplsla.hp.com (Andy Cassino)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:18:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Nikon N90 technobabble
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.photo

markl@research.nj.nec.com (Mark Lee) writes:
| 
| So is it just me, or do other feel that the zillion-plus-one whiz-bang
| high tech features being packed into cameras like the Nikon N90 or the
| Minolta xi series to be more distracting and intimidating than useful?
| (and I make a living out of high tech electronic stuff).  Does this
| stuff really lead to better photos? I imagine that in the time it takes
| to read the N90's manual, a novice could fully understand f-stops and
| shutter speeds and get a good feeling for the characteristics of a
| simple center-weighted meter and be off taking really good pictures.  Or
| am I just too old-fashioned?
| ----------

You are not alone. Since I read those Nikon press-releases, I've been
scratching my head. I even have given a few seconds' consideration to 
the idea that the maybe the posts were fictional and intended to parody 
the recent trend of over-complicated feature-bloated cameras! But, that was
just my futile attempt to deny the reality, Nikon is unleashing this
beast and is serious. I wish them luck, but to me the camera looks like a
solution in search of a problem that nobody cares about. Well, certainly *I*
don't care about it!

Of late I've come to form the opinion that there is *one* 35mm camera
manufacturer that is addressing real problems, and that is Canon. The new TS
lenses are a case in point. The RT camera another. The fact that Canon
listened to photographers and provided psuedo-mirror-lock-up for the EOS10 is
yet more evidence. There is growing evidence that Canon's new AF lenses
perform better than Nikon's latest entries (the 300mm f/4 AF lenses provide a
case in point). These items interest me much more than Nikon's "defocus" 
lenses and weird meter modes, because I can clearly see how Canon's features 
will give me a higher-quality image. Whereas, Nikon's innovations just don't
strike me as anything but complicated gimmicks.

So, my first impulse (provoked by the press releases) of running out and 
stocking up on FM2's is supplanted with the idea that maybe it's time to
trade in my Nikon stuff on some useful new TS lenses and an EOS-10 and 
a nice, sharp 300mm f4.0 lens.

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    % Andy Cassino                                       %
    % Hewlett-Packard - Lake Stevens Instrument Division %
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From: cmcdowel@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Charles E. McDowell)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Hasselblad/Medium Format Digest
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:40:52 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

If you would be interested in being added to the mailing list for the
Hasselblad / Medium Format Digest, a semi-moderated digest dedicated to
discussion about medium format equipment and techniques, send your mail
address to:  cmcdowel@ecn.purdue.edu.   Please put your address in the body
of the letter, don't rely on the header.

[ Charles McDowell                   Purdue University - Lafayette, Indiana ]
[ cmcdowel@ecn.purdue.edu            School of Electrical Engineering       ]
From: twtan@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Tack Wee Tan)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: FOR SALE: Nikon AF 35-135mm f3.5-4.5 Nikon AF 105mm Ff2.8 micro
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:54:18 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA


	I have for sale the following lenses. 

1. Nikon AF 35-135mm f3.5-4.5

   This lens is slightly over a year old. It is in excellent condition. 
   It is flawless mechanically and optically. Almost no signs of usage 
   at all. Included together for FREE, is an original Nikon lens hood
   costing about $12. Shipping and Handling is FREE. 
   This lens is ideal for those intending to take only 1 lens for their
   field trip. 

   Price: $275 negotiable.

2. Nikon AF 105mm f2.8 macro

   This lens is less than six months old and includes U.S warranty. 
   The lens is in absolutely PERFECT condition. It is flawless mechanically
   and optically. Almost no signs of usage at all. Included together for
   FREE, is an original Nikon METAL lens hood costing over $20. Shipping
   and Handling is FREE. This lens has been noted as one of the sharpest
   lens in the world, and is world reknown for its macro capability. It
   has a focus delimiter and focusses down to 1:1 ratio with any add-ons.
   Absolutely perfect for macro and portrait work. 

   Price: $450 negotiable.


   Call for Colin at (405) 447 4261 or just reply through E-mail.

					twtan@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu
 
 
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From: robert@sys.sweden.dg.com (Robert Claeson)
Newsgroups: rec.photo,rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: What tripod do you use when backpacking?
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:12:40 GMT
Organization: Data General AB, Akalla, Sweden

In article <lapv16INN9u2@almaak.usc.edu>, ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:

> The title says it all.
> What is a good tradeoff between weight and stability?
> 
> The worst lens it will be used with is the Sigma 400 APO AF.

I use a Manfrotto 055 tripod with the medium size Manfrotto ball
head. Manfrotto's stuff are sold under the name "Bogen" in the U.S.
The Manfrotto head isn't great, but it works and it's relatively
cheap. And once locked, it's sturdy too.

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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: ptse@bcars65b.bnr.ca (Paul Tse)
Subject: Re: FLD filters with Flash photography !!!
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 00:34:21 GMT

pojee@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:
>		If we shoot in presence of flourescent light with a 
>	flash set to 'through the lens' reading then the snaps turn
>	out to be green in the background. Can we use FLD filter
>	even while taking such flash pictures

If you use a filter to correct for the flourescent light on the 
background, you should use an "opposite" filter on the flash to
make the main subject's color neutral.  I'm not sure that Cokin
makes such an "opposite" filter...
From: jchen@smdsctt.bellcore.com (C. Jason Chen)
Subject: Re: 430 EZ flash for Canon
Reply-To: jchen@ctt.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 18:08:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.174736.3895@clark.edu>, gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep9.145118.22378@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu> alexm@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Alex Milshteyn) writes:
|> >Adorama's prise on 430EZ is $220.00 - $100.00 less than Lechmere's,
|> >and  $80.00 - than Ritz's.
|> >But they list two different models, which they list as follows:
|> >430 ez w/Case (Meter) - $204.95
|> >430 ez w/Case (feet) - $224.95
|> >What the heck is the difference for AF flash and camera?
|> 
|> The diference is that one gives flash ranges in meters, and the other in
|> feet on the flashes built in LCD display.
|> 
|> Gary
|> 
In addition, the "meter" version must be grey market. 

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From: phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: SB-24 Vs SB-22 ???
Date: 9 Sep 92 16:19:12 GMT
Organization: CSUA/UCB
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: raju@cs.UAlberta.CA's message of Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:15:44 GMT

I originally had an sb22 but sold it and got an sb24.  I like the
sb24 a lot better.  The main reason I got it was the adjustable
ambient/fill balance feature when used with the 8008 (the 6006 provides
this with non-sb24 flashes).  However, it turns out I don't use this
feature much, because I don't do that much outdoor fill flash photography.
(This too is curious.  Basically when shooting outdoors I usually
use an FM2 instead of the 8008...)

Another useful feature is the zoom head that goes all the way out to
24mm coverage (doesn't really light up the corners of the frame though).
From: bc@Apple.COM (bill coderre)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Kodak CD picture and LDs
Date: 8 Sep 92 20:06:44 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

winfia@vccsouth23.its.rpi.edu (Anthony Edward Winfield) writes:
|	I just saw on QVC no less a Kodak cd picture disc player.
|What I want to know is, is this format of CD
|picture compatible with current Laser Disc players that play multi-size and
|multi format LDs and CDs?

No.

Kodak Photo CDs store the image in a different format than anything
else. Computer CD-ROM players can deal with this, since you have a
computer on the other end decoding the bits, but a laserdisc player
is not so blessed.

Of course, we should see all this change next year, right?

bill coderre
slide projector of the 90's?
From: sog@craycos.com (Steve Gombosi)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: HELP: problem with Velvia (N8008 ...)
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:26:02 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <29364@sophia.inria.fr> luong@sophia.inria.fr writes:
>Hi,
>
>Two questions:
>
>1. I shot an important roll of Velvia at 80 asa. Should I have it
> processed normaly, or should I ask for a push-processing ?

DEFINITELY get it pushed. Velvia's dark enough when "normally" exposed -
almost a full stop underexposure will surely render the slides useless.

>2. I began a second roll in the same conditions. Should I finish it
> at 50 asa, or stick to 80 asa ?

Finish it at 80 and get it pushed, too. Velvia has virtually no latitude.

Fortunately, Velvia tolerates push processing pretty well in my experience.

>For information, the problem was caused by a feature of the Nikon 8008
>that I find nasty: DX code is *not* prioritary over manual setting of 
>film sensibility. I shot a Kodachrome 64 film before, and used the manual
>setting of sensibility to expose it at 80. Then I removed the batteries 
>for almost a night to reload them. However, the manual setting at 80 was 
>still there, and I forgot to check.

But if the camera worked the other way, you wouldn't have been *able* to
expose the Kodachrome at 80. Maybe the solution is to have the camera
"forget" any manual setting when the film is unloaded. It doesn't
really matter to me, you understand - I'm a medium format kinda guy ;-).

Steve
From: gsnow@clark.edu (Gary Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: 430 EZ flash for Canon
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:47:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Sep9.174736.3895
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <1992Sep9.145118.22378@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu> alexm@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Alex Milshteyn) writes:
>Adorama's prise on 430EZ is $220.00 - $100.00 less than Lechmere's,
>and  $80.00 - than Ritz's.
>But they list two different models, which they list as follows:
>430 ez w/Case (Meter) - $204.95
>430 ez w/Case (feet) - $224.95
>What the heck is the difference for AF flash and camera?

The diference is that one gives flash ranges in meters, and the other in
feet on the flashes built in LCD display.

Gary

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From: phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Info on Better wide angle
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:48:04 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: CSUA/UCB
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: paulf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu's message of 11 Sep 92 13:28:17 GMT


    The general consensus on the net seems to be that the bottom-end
    AF SLRs (Canon Rebel, Nikon 4004/f401, Minolta 3xi, etc) arn't
    much more than point-and-shoot cameras with interchangeable
    lenses. If you really want AF, go with the next higher level
    (Nikon 6006/f601, Canon Elan, Minolta 5xi).

I've never gotten this feeling either from the net or from using
the cameras.  Almost all point and shoots don't let you focus
or set exposure manually.  All the low-end SLR's you mention do, with
varying amounts of inconvenience.  
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From: pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson)
Subject: Re: Auto Focu button on Canon EOS cameras (was Re: Photograping Whales)
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science
	<PD.92Sep3195233@horus.sics.se> <1992Sep5.174028.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 01:17:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.174028.1@cc.curtin.edu.au> zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi) writes:

>Beware, the later USMs, havee the focus ring permanantly connected and you
>can manualy focus any time. The 'L' USMs can be manualy focused *after AF has
>completed/given up* but not all the time. This is set by a CF in the body.

Not all 'L' USMs are created equal. The later ones behave just as the
non-'L' USMs (at least one of them does. :-)

>Another CF. set the AElock button to AF and EAlock

In article <PD.92Sep3195233@horus.sics.se>, I wrote:
>> Hate to spoil your day, but you're wrong about the 100.

>Don't know. May be it's burried in the barcode stuff some where

Quite possible, but unlikely since all the barcodes do is set
different types of program modes. Parameters affected are exposure
mode, autofocus mode, film advance mode, fill flash mode. Now if
someone would give us a specification of the barcode we could have
some fun...
--
Per Danielsson				pd@sics.se
Swedish Institute of Computer Science, PO Box 1263, S-164 28 KISTA, SWEDEN
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: dsc@gemini.gsfc.nasa.gov
Subject: Nikkor TC-16A Autofocus Converter
Summary: (Howi well) does it work?
Keywords: Nikkor autofocus adapter TC-16A
Organization: NASA GSFC CDP VLBI
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:03:27 GMT



Has anyone out htere had any experience they would care to relate concerning
the Nikkor TC-16A Autofocus adapter?  Like what lenses you used with it and
how well, or poorly it worked? 

Per usual net procedure, please email to: dsc@gemini.gsfc.nasa.gov
and I will post a summary.
From: bjones@weber.ucsd.edu (Bruce Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Manual for Nikon F-1 Wanted
Date: 7 Sep 1992 20:46:41 GMT
Organization: U.C.S.D. Department of Communication
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

The title says most of it.  I have an old Nikon F-1 that I use as a
backup.  I bought it second hand a couple of years ago and it works
fine, there are just a few things about it I don't understand (like,
what's that little, round, flat thing with the serrated top, on the
right side of the lense mount? Mirror lock-up?  Depth-of-field
preview?).

I'd be happy to buy and prepay postage for either an original manual
for this camera or a decent aftermarket book that covers it in
depth.

Thanks,

Bruce Jones 			Graduate Program in Communication
bjones@ucsd.edu/bitnet		University of California, San Diego
(619) 534-0417/4410		9500 Gilman Drive
FAX (619) 534-7315		La Jolla, Ca. 92093-0503

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From: jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi (Juha Pehkonen)
Subject: Nikkor 75-300/4-5.6 AF : your experiences needed
Organization: University of Joensuu
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 11:25:43 GMT

Hi all,

 I'm thinking of purchasing the zoom mentioned in the topic and would like
to hear your opinions about it or any other similar zoom. What does 5.6
mean in practice? Do I have to use tripod even in daylight? Anything
else I should know before buying it?

Thanks in advance,

Juha Pehkonen
jpehko@cs.joensuu.fi
University of Joensuu, Finland
From: donl@glass.esd.sgi.com (donl mathis)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Anyone own a Zone VI field camera?
Date: 15 Sep 92 06:03:19 GMT
Reply-To: donl@glass.esd.sgi.com (donl mathis)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA


In article <PHILG.92Sep12142659@zug.ai.mit.edu>, philg@zurich.ai.mit.edu
(Philip Greenspun) writes:

|> My Sinar F2 is unfortunately too bulky for anything other than
|> roadside pictures.  I've coveted field cameras for many years and am
|> beginning to think of either a Japanese metal camera,

Well, okay.

|> a cheesy Tachihara wooden 4x5 ($500)

Icky!  Ptew!  Blech!

|> or one of those lifetime-guaranteed Zone
|> VI gold-plated hardware beauties (about $1300 last I recall).

Not bad, not bad.  You might also seriously consider the Wisner, which
many people think is better than the Zone VI.  Many people also
consider Ron Wisner to be a better person to deal with than Fred Picker
(Mr. Zone VI).

|> I'm also coveting a Schneider Super Symmar lens with moby coverage.  I
|> think they make a 150 which would fill a gap in my collection (90,
|> 210, 270).  Anyone have experience with this baby?

Yes.  Extremely sharp wide open.  Moby coverage.  Amazing in all
respects.  (This is the aforementioned lens with a flourite element,
which (now, I don't want to scare you...) can absorb humidity and
generally deteriorate if it ever happens to get wet.)  A very good
lens.  A *very* good lens.

However!  (I feel an opinion coming on...)  Consider that we never use
our view lenses wide open -- we always work somewhere around f/22 or
so, and at that point, it's hard to tell the difference between an
expensive Super Symmar and some cheap old off-brand, as far as
resolution and correction of aberrations.  We're diffraction limited;
abberations have been nearly eliminated by stopping down that far.  If
you *must* shoot with wide apertures, or you really need the extra
coverage, this lens is a very satisfying way of meeting those needs.
However, if you will settle for "so good you can't tell the
difference", you might do just as well with an APO-Symmar or some such,
and perhaps get two lenses for the price of the one Super Symmar.  I
don't have any APO-Symmars, but I have a 210 Symmar-S, and it's
blazingly sharp, and the APO-Symmar is no doubt even better.
Personally, I would go with the APO's if I were starting over today.

- donl mathis at Silicon Graphics Computer Systems, Mountain View, CA
donl@sgi.com
From: rah@public.BTR.COM (Richard A Hyde  rah@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Where to buy photo eqpmt in Portland (OR)?
Date: 8 Sep 92 05:06:24 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <1992Sep8.040541.5183@scott.skidmore.edu> jreiser@scott.skidmore.edu (jason reiser) writes:
|
|Try Camera World of Oregon.  I know they are authorized to sell Canon
|still and video cameras and are a pretty large retailer.
|

Remember! Camera World of Oregon charges you substantially higher prices
if you walk in the door.  Mail order if you must, but don't expect great
prices in the store!

Their adseven say "prices good for mail order only".



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From: swansond@nextnet.csus.edu (Dennis Swanson)
Subject: Re: New Canon mentioned on CBS This Morning
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:05:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.152915.28058@wri.com> markm@wri.com writes:
>I saw the story too.  They said that the camera uses two small laser-beams to  
>determine what the photographer is looking at.  I guess these lasers would  
>shoot out through the viewfinder and reflect off your eyeball, giving the  
>camera some sort of clue as to what corner of the viewfinder your staring at.

... and as an added extra bonus removing any pesky cataracts you be plagued
with. :-)

	Den

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From: usenet@adobe.com (USENET NEWS)
Subject: Re: Nikon N90 technobabble
Originator: asanders@sparta
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
			-David Jacobson
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:09:08 GMT

Alas and alack! I think the shutters Nikon is using aren't
light-tight enough for mirror lockup.

Like Andy, at first I thought the N90 press release sounded like 
a parody of Canon's techno-wonder cameras. No such luck! Very odd
that Nikon would put so many gizmos on a camera priced out of
reach of most amateurs...

I WILL admit that the new flash technology sounds cool.

					-Alan


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