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From: cpw8034@venus.tamu.edu (ALAN CHIPIN WEN (409)693-2924)
Subject: Re: First to ask about Emplant?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:33:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.123921.14956@lonex.rl.af.mil>, kopackm@lonex.rl.af.mil (Michael A. Kopack) writes...
>Hey guys, give the man a chance, will ya? After all, he did say in a previous
>posting (around the end of June/beginning of July) that he had to redesign
>the board to fix a few boo-boos, and a new feature or two and that they still
>hadn't gotten their FCC approval. He also stated that because of these problems,
>EMPLANT might not be ready for the 3rd week of July deadline, but more realistically,
>the 2-3 week of August. After all, even if he did get the FFC approval that
>next day, he'd have to get the board design to the PCB people, have them
>run several hundred (possibly thousands) and then solder in all the parts.
>Then you have to test them, reproduct the software, package them .......
> 
>Look, I know we're all getting anxious to see this thing and get our hand
>on it. But, let's give Mr. Drew a little more time before we cut off his
>head. Even the best planned projects can run into problems which slow them
>down. 

Oh  give me a break with the whining.   In previous posts, it has been clear
that Mr. Drew is "bored" since he has finished the product and is now just
waiting for FCC approval.  All that garbage you mentioned about doing this
and doing that on redesign and so forth taking time is true, BUT... if 
he had a gram of forsight he wouldn't rant and rave about a product dead
line if he knows what is to be expected.  eg.  if you expect emplant to be
due at the end of july, say publicly that it'll be finished by the end of 
August.  Otherwise, consumers will expect it by the end of July.  

You obviously don't know anything about being "realistic".  Don't you 
remember all the past flames on shutting up until the deadline that Mr.
Drew himself has set?  Well, check your calender buddy.

Moral of the story?  The best planned projects can and do run into problems,
but developers should expect such setbacks and not let consumers down with
unrealistic due dates.  

alan
From: oleg@crumpet.cts.com (Oleg Rovner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: First to ask about Emplant?
Date: 27 Jul 92 03:34:24 GMT
Organization: We could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you
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[a bunch of meaningless junk deleted]

How about trimming that .signature? A nine line .sig appended after a
single line of original material after 4 lines of quotes is pretty annoying.

Then again so is Ross "The Weasel" Perot.

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From: Seank@cryo.rain.com (Sean Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Atari ST Emulator??
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
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Date: 22 Jul 92 22:15:21 PDT
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR

Ok, there is one, sort of, I even have (here somewhere, hmmmmmm)
I have formatted and read ST disks on it but it's a little odd :-)
 
Anyway, if you want it, drop me a line and I'll see what I can do.


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From: mrubino@engws1.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael N Rubino)
Subject: Re: First to ask about Emplant?
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 17:37:39 GMT

In article <mkoch.032h@amisys.UUCP> mkoch@amisys.UUCP (Mike Koch) writes:
>In article <Brrx09.Int@DMI.USherb.CA> vailm00@DMI.USherb.CA (MARC VAILLANCOURT) writes:
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>> Well, because I am done with EMPLANT....we are waiting on FCC approval,
>> and I have nothing to do.  :-)                                         
>>                                                                        
>> Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.
>> -----------------------------------------------------------------
>
>   However, this latest statement from Mr. Drew, which is technically
>hearsay, since he didn't post it himself (no offense, Marc), troubles me
>greatly.  A large number of the folks here are programmers, either
>professionally or casually.  Of those who are, how many of you, after working
>on a project for however long, sit back and say, "It's done.  Now I have
>nothing to do."?
>   Fine, the hardware has been finalized, and is awaiting FCC approval.
>Unless I'm mistaken, this product will also contain a good bit of software,
>will it not?  I haven't met a programmer yet who ever considered one of
>his/her programs to be "finished", especially when that person had some extra
>time on their hands, which seems to be the case with Mr. Drew.  There's always
>something that needs to be improved, a certain bit of code that could use a
>little massaging, a couple of minor buglets that could use squashing.  What
>about the other emulations that were mentioned as coming "in the future" for
>Emplant?  Are those already done?

If memory serves Mr. Drew is NOT writing the emulation software for EMPLANT.
That task is being handled by a veteran Mac programmer.  Mr. Drew's only
contribution was in designing the board which IS done and in FCC.

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From: traynor@fnala.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: AMAXII+   <==> Soft.pc/at
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:06:11 GMT
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In article <1992Jul28.221603.20688@crash.cts.com>, jgallego@pnet01.cts.com (Jose Gallego) writes:
> 
> Hi,
> To the person that posted the question about PC/AT working with AMAXII+:
> 
> You mail bounced!
> 
> Anyway here is what I originally sent you:
> 
> I have soft.pc/AT from Insignia and have test it on the AMAXII+.
> 
> It runs without any problem.  It runs like an 286AT at 5-6Mhz CGA monochrome
> (since the AMAX+ is emulating a monochrome Mac).
> 
> As a matter od fact, I tested the CP/M emulator for the IBM on Soft.PC/AT.
> It does run!!  Yes, in other words, I was emulating a CP/M machine (at 0.5MHz)
> on an emulated IBM AT (at 5-6MHz) emulated on emulated Macintosh on my Amiga
> 3000.  All without any problem.
> 
> As soon as I get a chance, I will download the Apple2emu for the IBM and 
> run it to see what happens.  
> 
> Jose~
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Where can you get Soft PC/AT?  What is Insignia's phone number?  Is there
any reason that it should not work under Amax 2.5?

					-Mike Traynor


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From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: Atari ST Emulator??
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:53:56 GMT

Um... if you have a bridgeboard, then you might consider getting a
GEMulator, which will allow a 486 to emulate an 8mhz 1040ST tolerably
well... and also a Mac, under the ST emulation...

Only $500 or so, I think,

Thom
From: oleg@crumpet.cts.com (Oleg Rovner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: OS/2
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:18:03 GMT
Organization: We could tell you, but then we'd have to kill you
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In article <Jarrett_Volzer.04tp@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us> Jarrett_Volzer@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us (Jarrett Volzer) writes:
> time splice as Windows does.  Also, OS/2 is a 32 bit operating system,
> Windows is only 16.  Windows NT is SUPPOSED to be Microsoft's answer to

Pardon my ignorance, but what in the heck is a "32 bit OS" and "16 bit OS"?
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From: Quentin_Snow@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Quentin Snow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: First to ask about Emplant?
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:41:45 GMT
Organization: The Flying Circus BBS, San Antonio, TX
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>      He meant to develop any emulator that emulates the hardware of the
> Video Toaster, but of course in software. Then you would just need the
> switcher and stuff to use the Video Toaster.
> 
> 
Here is an interesting thought -- Since the emulator is classified as an
EMULATE all other platforms, etc. then what about loading ITS (emplants)
roms so that itself could be emulated through software
 
Ok ok. so its far-fetched..  but its just another thing to make ya read.

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From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Re: EMPLANT Update.
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:49:48 GMT

cpw8034@venus.tamu.edu (ALAN CHIPIN WEN (409)693-2924) writes:
>But in all honesty and reality, I'll be thoroughly satisfied if it's coming
>out at Christmas with the 486 and Quadra emulation as stable as promised.  I'm
>willing to pay twice of what Mr. Drew has advertised if it does so.  Really,
>$700 is a helluva good deal for two heavy weight computers (add a bit more for
>the roms and such too).

Hey, hey, not too loudly!  We do not want to see a sudden price increase
Toaster-style...

-- Gerald
From: nugget@genesis.nred.ma.us (Ralph Barbagallo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT and Game Console emulation (was Re: EMPLANT)
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:18:34 GMT
Organization: Genesis Public Access Minix  +1 508 664 0149


  Ya but a NEO GEO copier is due out real soon and it will be cheaper
than some sort of emulator.  I think it's an ad on to the MGD2 or something.

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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT Update.
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:00:51 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

cpw8034@zeus.tamu.edu (ALAN CHIPIN WEN (409)693-2924) writes:

>> 
>>Correct, and our first ads coming out will also be in the same issue as
>>the review....which is either the Sept or Oct issues (I dont remember
>>which) of Amazing Computing and Amiga World.
>> 
>>Jim Drew - Vice President, Utilities Unlimited, Inc.

>Bravo!!!  Thanks.  This is going to be in Toaster proportions when they get a
>hold of this.  BTW, will it have as much coverage as the toaster and the likes?

>alan

Jim, just curious, will you consider placing an ad in a Mac magazine or 
IBM magazine... and state clearly that an Amiga can emulate a IIci?

seriously, it might help the sales of EMPLANT *AND* the Amiga.

Just a thought,
Kelvin


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From: dtiberio@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: EMPLANT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:00:21 GMT

In article <2A6C64B9.20869@ics.uci.edu> rang@ics.uci.edu (Jyan-ken) writes:
>
>Question: If EMPLANT is to emulate a color MacII, will EMPLANT then be able
> to address AMiga 24 bit boards like Dissolver, Vivid 24, OpalVision,
>FireCracker 24, IV24 or just any board that enchances AMiga's graphics
>capabilities? 

	It should work fine with the above mentioned boards if Jim Drew has
tested and learned to program any of them. But I do agree that the Dissolver,
Vivran 24, OpusVision, FireCackler 24, IVY24, EDS, Hammy, DCTele, BVideo,
the Video Coaster, the University of Bowel board, and even the Danish chip
should be supported. Basically, any TIGER board with a SINGE library should
also work well with Empath under the Mack emulations.



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From: James_Hastings-Trew@telepro.UUCP (James Hastings-Trew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: EMPLANT
Distribution: world
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:11:28 CST
Organization: TelePro Technologies

In a message dated Wed 22 Jul 92  5:47, Rang@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (jyan-Ken)
wrote:

 RK> capabilities? T'would be nice to run, say, ADobe Freehand and be able

AKK! Adobe ILLUSTRATOR, or ALDUS Freehand... :)


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Subject: Re: Help wanted with A2286 woes
From: fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu
Date: 21 Jul 92 06:45:19 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

In article <1992Jul20.133403.22941@col.hp.com>, dkm@col.hp.com (Dave K. Martin) writes:
> fheitkamp@desire.wright.edu writes:
>> Pascal 6.0 still worked.  I then tried the PowerC compiler.  It did
>                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> not work.  Well, I though to myself "this is a go time to try Borland
>   ^^^^^^^^
> This is surprising!  PowerC has been running just fine on my 2088 XT (both 
> in stock 8088/4.7mHz and V20/7.14mHz modes) and with the emulated hard drive.
> Although at compile time, I jump over to the Amiga side for a leisurely game 
> of MegaBall :)  
>
	Actually, I'm quite please with the PowerC compiler.  The only
	thing was the lack of a "development environment"  The DOS 5
	editor is a help in that respect.  Compile time is quick
	enough on the A2286.  I've found that the main bottleneck is the 
	pseudo-hardrive.  I ran Norton SI and came out with 8.5 or so
	computing index and around 6.5 disk index with the SCSI controller
	and a disk index of about 1.7 with the pseudo  drive.  I read 
	somewhere that you can speed up the pseudo drive by using the 
	AddBuffers command liberally.


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From: Jarrett_Volzer@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us (Jarrett Volzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: OS/2
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:24:13 GMT
Organization: The Village BBS

In a message dated Mon 19 Jul 92  1:16, S_fuller@iastate.edu (steve Fuller)
wrote:


 SF> We are running OS/2 2.0 on a PS/2 56sx here at my place of
 SF> employment. The machine has 4 megs of ram in it and boy it is DOG
 SF> slow. I think that Windows 3.1 on a 12 MHz 286...

You will find that it takes about 8 megs for 2.0 to be of much use at all. 
I use 1.3 with 6 megs, and that is plenty, but 2.0 is quite a memory hog. 
8 is about the acceptable minimum.
 
Jarrett_Volzer@neonate.amgia.atl.ga.us

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From: jerry@marin.uucp (Jerry C. Hudgins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Expanding XT slots in an A2000
Distribution: world
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Date: 28 Jul 92 10:09:34 EDT
Organization: Private Use

I need to add AT edge connectors to the XT slots in my A2000, and I'd like a
little guidance.  I've heard some folks mention that it's easy to get parts
that are too tall or too long to fix against the existing connector well.
Can someone who's done this supply a manufacturer/part number/source for the
appropriate connectors?

Furthermore, can anyone give me me any advice on performing this mod?  I do
have a grounded soldering iron and a vacuum bulb, but I don't do this sort
of thing very often.  I won't have any trouble getting the motherboard out,
but any hints on desoldering/soldering techniques when working with multi-
layer boards and DIP-type packages would be greatly appreciated.

And no, I don't have a dealer around to do the work.  :-(

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From: dtiberio@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: First to ask about Emplant?
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:05:49 GMT

In article <14k7dnINN7r2@network.ucsd.edu> simon@ivem.uucp (Simon Lee) writes:

>If this is true, then I wonder about the validity of Emplant, especially
>since he sould be busy making other computer emulators for Emplant.  Also,
>why would the VICE PRESIDENT/PRESIDENT of his own company want a job in 
>another company?

	Who do you think he is, Bill Gates?



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From: Jarrett_Volzer@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us (Jarrett Volzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: OS/2
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:47:28 GMT
Organization: The Village BBS

In a message dated Tue 27 Jul 92 13:44, Skank@iastate.edu (george L Skank)
wrote:


 SLS> In article <Jarrett_Volzer.04v8@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us>
 SLS> Jarrett_Volzer@neonate.amiga.atl.ga.us (Jarrett Volzer) writes:
>In a message dated Mon 19 Jul 92  1:16, S_fuller@iastate.edu (steve
Fuller)
>wrote:
>
> SF> We are running OS/2 2.0 on a PS/2 56sx here at my place of
> SF> employment. The machine has 4 megs of ram in it and boy it is DOG
> SF> slow. I think that Windows 3.1 on a 12 MHz 286...
>
>You will find that it takes about 8 megs for 2.0 to be of much use at all.

>I use 1.3 with 6 megs, and that is plenty, but 2.0 is quite a memory hog. 
>8 is about the acceptable minimum.
> 
>Jarrett_Volzer@neonate.amgia.atl.ga.us

 SLS>      You've *GOT* to be kidding!  I almost always run my Amiga with
 SLS> with
 SLS> three or four applications running and I've only run out of memory
 SLS> *ONCE*!
 SLS> I'm running a 2.04 equipped A3000 with 6Megs of memory and the OS
 SLS> copied
 SLS> into RAM.  And don't try and tell me that I must not be a *power
 SLS> user*
 SLS> either.  2.0 does use more memory than 1.3, no big surprises there,
 SLS> but
 SLS> I would not call it a memory hog.  I thought it ran just fine in
 SLS> 4Megs.

 SLS>       --George

George,
  Unfortunately, we seem to have gotten off topic here.  The discussion in
the quotes above is about OS/2 2.0, as in IBM OS/2 operating system for IBM
computers, NOT Amiga Workbench 2.0.  OS/2 is a multitasking operating
system that runs on PC's.  It looks a lot like Windows, but is actually a
32 operating system itself (Windows is just a pretty interface for
DOS...actually a DOS application itslef, which time shares, and does not
multitask, and is NOT a 32 OS).  OS/2 is growing in popularity extremely
fast in IBM circles since the release of version 2.0 which is very stable,
and can multitask DOS applications, Windows applications, and OS/2
applications.   As I said, this is off topic for this area, so I'll shut up
now...yes, I do think that would be a good idea at this juncture in time!

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From: jgallego@pnet01.cts.com (Jose Gallego)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: AMAXII+   <==> Soft.pc/at
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:16:03 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA


Hi,
To the person that posted the question about PC/AT working with AMAXII+:

You mail bounced!

Anyway here is what I originally sent you:

I have soft.pc/AT from Insignia and have test it on the AMAXII+.

It runs without any problem.  It runs like an 286AT at 5-6Mhz CGA monochrome
(since the AMAX+ is emulating a monochrome Mac).

As a matter od fact, I tested the CP/M emulator for the IBM on Soft.PC/AT.
It does run!!  Yes, in other words, I was emulating a CP/M machine (at 0.5MHz)
on an emulated IBM AT (at 5-6MHz) emulated on emulated Macintosh on my Amiga
3000.  All without any problem.

As soon as I get a chance, I will download the Apple2emu for the IBM and 
run it to see what happens.  

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From: karkan@msdrl.com (Jim Karkanias)
Subject: Mapping Program
Organization: Merck Research Laboratories
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 17:52:41 GMT

Is there an advanced mapping program available for the Amiga?  I'm looking for
something on the order of Atlas*GIS (street level resolution, demographic
layers, etc.)?

Thanks.

Jim