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From: censwm@cend3c7.caledonia.hw.ac.uk (Stuart W Munn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: BMW R65, engine swap technical help needed
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:52:08 GMT
Organization: Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

I need some advice about the feasibility of fitting a 1981 R65 engine to a 1978 bike.

My engine is shagged!!  I have been offered a 1981 58,000 mile as a replacement will there be any problems fitting this to an older machine? particularly in the flywheel area, and any other probs I may come across.

I have done a fair amount of engine swaps/rebuilds on cages but not on bikes.

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From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:40:21 GMT
Subject: Re: 80/81 CB750 s
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

In rec.motorcycles, dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson) writes:

> In article <daved.718991839@convex.convex.com>, daved@convex.com (David
> Dorfman) wrote:
> > They were nice bikes, but if you don't plan on rideing them everyday
> > I would pass. For some reason they don't want to start if left 
> > idle for more then 4 or 5 days. Long periods of cranking were required,
> > at times exhausting the battery.
> > 
> They also aren't too fond of the cold.  When the temp drops below 50
> or so, mine will start on 1 cyl, and work its way across till all
> four are going.  Sounds pretty much like shit for the first 1/2 min
> of running or so.

I'm not alone!  For years I've struggled with this.  Will rejetting the idle
circuits fix this?  Has anyone tried?  I figure that it's either the result
of lean EPA carbs, or that it's caused by the vacuum petcock.  I have a
theory that after sitting the gas is the carbs is low.  You have to crank
and crank to develop vacuum sufficient to let in more gas.  Does anyone
else with vacuum petcocks on other models have this problem? 

I'm going to install a manual prime on my petcock by T'ing into the vacuum 
line and running a hose to the outside where I can remove a plug to suck on 
the line so that the carbs will fill.  

Speaking of starting, during the last month my starter has been acting up.
Sometimes when I push the button it only clicks.  I can press it again and
things work just fine.  Does this mean that my starter brushes are shot? 

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
jld@hpfcpe.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
We don't stop riding because we careen through a llama ranch and burst into
flames, we stop riding because the bike has sat for more than 5 days and 
won't start.
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Did you say dual-compound?
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:11:18 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <16156@mindlink.bc.ca> John_Greer@mindlink.bc.ca (John Greer) writes:
>The duel compound tyre is made by Spitfire and as how good they are I don't
>know but the idea is right, long lasting centre and sticky sides.
>
>--
>John Greer@mindlink.bc.can
>85-FJ 1100
>DoD #0260             A.I.M. #001078530
>Jason Greer DoD #0260.5


There is no time manufacturer call "Spitfire".  That is a model 
designation of a Bridgestone tire.


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      mlj8e@virginia.edu
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: counter-steering?
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:57:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: unisql.3976
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Oct14.142723.9587@oclc.org> hur@oclc.org (Matt Hur) writes:
>I overheard some bikers at a local shop talking about "counter-steering".
>Can someone tell me what that is?  I just steer my bike by turning
>the bars.


Down here, most bars have counters, even fern bars.  So what's the problem?


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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleven
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:23:24 GMT

markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:

>Pushrods are actually an excellent design given the Harleys relatively
>low red line.

Then again, Honda's CX500 showed that a pushrod v-twin is not inherently
limited to low rpm. Of course it had a much shorter stroke than any
Harley engine.
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From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Model list
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:08:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: devnull.2599
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]but by hacking their body parts ...
]...If you want to know how, ask me.

troubled childhood michael?

:-)

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From: dcampbel@timshel.austin.ibm.com (David L. Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:27:25 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin, TX


jesse@eye.com (Jesse Lackey) writes:
>
>So I know some of you out there must have detectors on your bikes.  And I'd
>sure like to hear how you did it....

When I bought my bike current bike (used Nighthawk 700S), it already had a
radar detector mounted on it.  The detector part is mounted using a small
bracket on the front fender, with a small cable running the short distance
up the forks, through the fairing, and into a little handlebar-mounted job
that contains the on/off switch and a speaker for the alarm.  The whole
set-up is weather proof.  I don't/can't remove it when I park the bike.
Obviously, this is not optimal to keep away the theives but I've not had any
problems -- its actually surprisingly unnoticeable -- and its really
convenient.  I do not know if the relatively low mounting of the detector
severly hampers its effectiveness, but I suspect it doesn't: One, many radar
detectors are made to mount in a car's grill area which isn't any higher,
and two, its saved my butt from numerous tickets...


David.
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From: ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:13:02 GMT
Organization: Data and Business Comms, BT Labs, Martlesham, Ipswich, UK.

> At least we don't blow up bars and stock exchanges on a regular basis.

Neither does any person with an ounce of decency in them.
If (as I suggest you are refering to) the IRA wish to plant bombs to
have a 'maximum publicity' effect then they should plant it in their
own HQ and do the world a favour.

That goes for any other terrorists.

The word 'scum' comes to mind.
The phrase 'slaughter of *innocent* people comes to mind.

Antony.
DoD#1832
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Flame Bait (was: Re: Drag racing)
Date: 14 Oct 1992 21:12:45 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 719089263@frigg, news@isc-br.isc-br.com (news user) writes:
>
>In article <1939@shaman.wv.tek.com>, harmons@.WV.TEK.COM (Harmon Sommer) writes:
>|> >>"Victimless crime" is an oxymoron.
>|> >
>|> >Not true.  Smoking dope is a victimless crime, many times.
>
>Not "many times" : ALWAYS.  Almost exact analogy to riding a
>motorcycle without a helmet. 

Wrong.  Marijuana affects reaction time, concentration, and short-term
memory.  The first two place innocent others at risk if the dope-smoker
is riding a motorcycle (not to mention a cage, airplane, crane, etc.).
Pot, like alcohol, should be legal, but NOT on the road.

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From: edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh)
Subject: Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleve
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:10:38 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
: Do you think Sun should build mainframes?
: Pepsi should produce beer?
: Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,

I don't know about beer, but Pepsi is the importer for Stolichnoya(sp?) Vodka.
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From: mfisch@pdx064.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Matthew Fisch)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:20:30 GMT
Reply-To: mfisch@ichips.intel.com
Organization: Workgroup Computing Division, PDX, Intel

In article <1992Oct15.170006.11225@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
|> bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
|> >In article <92Oct14.151535.15488@acs.ucalgary.ca>, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes...
|> 
|> >>Okay, denizens...If you could only have 5 bikes in your garage,
|> >>what would they be?
|> 
|> >I would have 5 of the most expensive dressed out Harley's
|> >available.
|> 
|> >Then I would sell them, and use the profits to buy more
|> >garage space and ten bikes that I would ride.
|> 
|> Nice idea, but wrong bike. You need 5 NR750 Hondas, a 1/4 million
|> dollars worth of motorcycles!
|> -- 

  How about 5 factory works YZR-500s, about $6 million worth.

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From: chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih)
Subject: Re: Can't trigger traffic lights
Date: 08 Oct 92 07:28:50 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In rec.motorcycles delilah@next09epsl.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona) writes:
;last night, i was visiting some friends in a nearby apartment complex, and  
;stayed late; for securtiy, the place was completely fenced in, and at  
;night, they had electronic gates closed; keycard access from outside,  
;electronic triggered from the inside. except, i couldn't trigger them. 

In this situation, you amuse yourself by doing burnouts
in the parking lot until somebody lets you out.  You won't
wait long.

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From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 80/81 CB750 s
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 8 Oct 1992 22:49:01 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <1992Oct7.211458.6318@morrow.stanford.edu>,
karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) wrote:
> 
> The C model is the cruiser, with a smaller teardrop-shaped
> tank, pullback handlebars, and a different style four-
> into-two exhaust than the F model (I think).  Otherwise,
> it's similar to the K.

Four into four's actually.

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From: pooder@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:16:04 GMT
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <92Oct14.151535.15488@acs.ucalgary.ca>, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
> Okay, denizens...If you caould only have 5 bikes in your garage,
> what would they be?
> 
> My list: Ducati 900ss (no, *not* the recent one, bozo)
>          Honda VFR750 (bright red)
>          Harley Softail Springer
>          Yamaha RZ350 (already got one...)
>          Norton Manx
> 

I'm 2/5ths of the way to completing my collection.  I have several criteria:

   - One from each decade I've been alive
   - One each of 1, 2, 3, and 4 cylinders
   - One each from Germany, Japan, England, Italy, and the USA
   - A tourer, a dual-purpose, an all-out sport, a standard, and a ccruiser 
   - Something exotic and something ordinary
   - Displacements from 250 or so to over 1000
   - Cooling by water, oil, and air
 
The two motorcycles I share garage space with fill some of these; I need
three more to finish the collection.  

Gretchen, a 1986 K75, is a 3-cylinder 750cc water-cooled German touring
motorcycle that's a little on the exotic side.

Harvey, a 1972 CB500, is a 4-cylinder 500cc air-cooled Japanese standard
motorcycle that is extremely ordinary;  a prototypical UJM from the '70s.

A 1992 900SS would meet the criteria for exotic, sporting, oil cooling, 2-
cylinder, RED (oops, that wasn't on the list!) and Italian. 

I don't know which British motorcycle I would choose, but the 1967 Triumph
Mountain Cub on the last page of the American Motorcyclist magazine would
be a nice addition.

The Harley from the '5- it-'s hard to know which one I want, but I want
one; I want one very much.

I could choose more exotic machinery if I thought about it for a while, but
this list has the advantage of being attainable.  

I wonder how long it will be before I own all five of these motorcycles.

Pooder - Snowy Rochester, MN - DoD #591 - LotN
"What Do *You* Care What Other People Think?" -- Richard Feynman
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:22:36 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Alan E. Asper (asper@sbctri.sbc.com) wrote:
: In article <1992Oct15.115935.19629@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes:
: >     1. HD Softtail Springer
: >     2. HD FatBoy
: >     3. Ariel Square Four
: >     4. Vincent Black Shadow
: >     5. Brougham Superior
:          ^^^^^^^^
: 
: Is this anything like a BROUGH Superior?
: :^)
: 
: Alan

Don't be so fuckin' superior.
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I won? (NOT!)
Keywords: cager,asshole
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:26:51 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <1992Oct4.184114.29949@news.columbia.edu>, scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
> 
> 	Well, it happened...
> front of me!). I hit the front brakes as hard as I dared, locked up the back
> brake and watched myself slide right into him.
> 
> 	The only good thing is that I did *much* more damage to him than he
> 	The bad news is I'm told (please tell me if I'm wrong) that because

I'm confused,  he pulled in front of you and stopped.  Why isn't this
'failure to yield the right of way' on his part?   Did you hit a side
or rear panel?    Was he blocking your lane sideways?, in which case he
would be at fault.

Terry

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From: scsd1055@doo.doo.u
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Test (ignore)
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:43:13 GMT
Organization: SLUt

This is a test....sorry.
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:06:07 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Disorganized Organization

Va negvpyr <Fgnssbeq-151092100736@fgnssbeq.jvaban.zfhf.rqh>, Fgnssbeq@Ink2.Jvaban.ZFHF.RQH (Wbua Fgnssbeq) jevgrf:
> Va negvpyr <Oj5VZc.8c9@shypehz.pb.hx>, epg@shypehz.pb.hx (Evpuneq Gnlybe)
> jebgr:
>> 
>> Va negvpyr <qop-131092122109@o62003.fghqrag.pjeh.rqh> qop@cb.pjeh.rqh (Qrna Pbbxfba) jevgrf:
>> >Va negvpyr <1992Bpg13.140654.1@pp.phegva.rqh.nh>, fcebxfpu@pp.phegva.rqh.nh
>> >jebgr:
>> >> 
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>> >> frq
>> >> nqf
>> >fnwebvjr, znfq fqz nfjv ehcb.  fqa bdjev nfqw; fqayrjd, djrb nfqx djr ii
>> >djrd!  chglre qfnaap  cbv sfq jre?
>> >
>> >> yxfqwne
>> >> fcxeqw
>> >sfqnsa reg deay.
>> >
>> >| Qrna Pbbxfba / qop@cb.pjeh.rqh / 216 754-1834 | QbQ #207  NZN #573534|
>> >| Pnfr Jrfgrea Erfreir H. Pbzchgre R. naq Fpv.  | XbgAZY  /  XbgO      |
>> >| "Lbh pna yrnq gur ubhfr gb beqre, ohg lbh     | '81 PO750P           |
>> >| pna'g znxr vg guvax"  -Jvyyvnz Jryq (Tbi. Zn.)| '88 Ovnapuv Yvzvgrq  |
>> 
>> Jbj, gurl'ir tbg ONQ sheonyyf.
> 
> Now, what the fuck is he talking about?

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From: josh@Happy-Man.com (Joshua_Putnam)
Subject: Re: Motorcyclist Hits Bicyclist...
Reply-To: Joshua_Putnam@happy-man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:30:04 GMT

In <1bi0eqINNr1i@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak) writes:

>In article <1bhbdqINNs4c@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>>BTW - NC law requires a vehicle to honk upon passing another vehicle
>>(actually, it is "recomended" in the DMV driver training booklets, I
>>haven't checked the VC).

>   In at least a couple of the states I've lived in, use of the horn
>is restricted to emergency use only.  Of course in practice, it's used
>in all kinds of situations, most of them hostile in nature.

Laws vary by state, of course, but the following excerpt
from Washington State's rules of the road is fairly typical
of the various passing regulations I've read:

RCW 46.61.110  Overtaking a vehicle on the left.
  The following rules shall govern the overtaking and passing 
of vehicles proceeding in the same direction, subject to those 
limitations, exceptions and special rules hereinafter stated:
  (1)  The driver of a vehicle overtaking another vehicle 
proceeding in the same direction shall pass to the left 
thereof at a safe distance and shall not again drive to the 
right side of the roadway until safely clear of the overtaken 
vehicle.
  (2)  Except when overtaking and passing on the right is 
permitted, the driver of an overtaken vehicle shall give way 
to the right in favor of the overtaking vehicle on audible 
                                                ^^^^^^^^^^
signal and shall not increase the speed of his vehicle until 
^^^^^^
completely passed by the overtaking vehicle.
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From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash)
Subject: Re: Plug Chop
Originator: dab@space0
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:51:00 GMT

In article <1055@cybaswan.UUCP> eeharvey@cybaswan.UUCP (i t harvey) writes:
>What exactly is a plug-chop. TIA.

When you alter things in, on, or related to your engine, sometimes you need
to alter the carb jetting.  F'rinstance, if you got a new exhaust system,
cam, air filters, and so on.  To correctly select the right jet(s), you do 
plug chops.  This is best accomplished by installing a NEW spark plug and
taking the bike to a road where you can run full throttle (gear irrelevant)
for about a mile or so.  Then you pull in the clutch and hit the kill switch.
When you coast to a stop, you remove the spark plug and "read" it to see if
the bike is running rich, lean, or just right.  Change/don't change the 
main jet as indicated.  Repeat as necessary until main is correct.

Perform the same procedure at 0.5 throttle to get needle position, needle
jet size, and/or jet needle as necessary.

The idle jet you can usually figure out at idle.  (duh)
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From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:08:17 GMT

Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher (egreen@east.sun.com) wrote:
: In article 8113@bnr.uk, datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
: 
: >Unfortunately, your country has become so used
: >to having guns that it would be difficult to ban them or make it more difficult
: >for citizens to obtain them without considerable hue and cry of the "how come
: >he's got one and I can't" variety. 
: 
: Actually, the reason is even simpler:  It's written into the Constitution.
: 
: And you are incorrect in characterizing the situation as "unfortunate."
: 
: ---
: Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
:   Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
: DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
:  (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
: 

Well, I was just giving my tuppenceworth.  It was probably worth that much, or
less.  I think, somewhere in a connected digital Post-it, I used the word 
"Fuhrer", which should put a rather final end to this thread, or at least this 
part of it.  I wonder if anyone else spotted this?

In this correspondents humble opinion only, do I consider the situation "unfor-
tunate".  You obvously opine to the contrary, that's life.  Now, what about
beer mats?


Nick (the non-political Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Magna Carta


M'Lud.


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