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From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Messner-Loebs and Sam Keith to Image
Date: 9 Nov 1992 00:21:00 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
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In article <MeydXRW00WBKM2bIxK@andrew.cmu.edu> "Joe Nathan Haralson, II" <jh20+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Messner-Loebs, the name sounds familiar, what has he written other than
>the Maxx.

He used to script JLE and write FLASH.  Now he writes Wonder Woman.
			--MikE


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From: jz1j+@andrew.cmu.edu (James D. Zelenka)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: DC: MM- American Secrets
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:45:13 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

So, has anyone but me been reading this?
So far, I'm pretty impressed. DC hasn't done anything this good in the
superhero genre in a while.

Any word on when #3 will be out? Did I miss it totally? (whimper)

-jim
jz1j@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: hunter@cse.uta.edu (David Hunter)
Subject: Re: I'VE SEEN THE FUTURE.....
Organization: Computer Science Engineering at the University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:27:14 GMT

kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER) writes:
>
>SECRET DEFENDERS:  Dr. Strange does Mission Impossible.  When Doc can't handle
>something, he calls up other heroes to help.  Now, what kind of menace would 
>Gambit really be able to help with that Doc couldn't handle on his own?

"Dr. Strange does Mission Impossible" was exactly the idea that
started the original Defenders way back when.  The writers actually
did have a problem fitting Strange together with more traditional
super-heros on a consistent basis.  Eventually he was written
out of the book because of this.

David Hunter
hunter@cse.uta.edu
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Sandman 44 (SPOILERS)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:22:56 GMT

In article <BxAvI4.C0w@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> schmburg@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Greg Schomburg ) writes:
>rauchfuss@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Brian Rauchfuss) writes:
>
>
>
>Destruction abondoned his post at the dawn of the industrial revolution.
>Could it be that humanity, with warlike tendencies and machines
>of war to multiply thier proclivities a thousandfold, has been in
>effect ASKING for destruction throughout recent history?  Perhaps
>Destruction just plain got sick of humanity and is ignoring 4
>billion screams for annihilation?     
>
I doubt humanity has anything to do with Destruction leaving.  The Endless
are not the Endless for humanity, but for EVERY being in the Universe. It
would seem strange that on race's war-mongering would trouble Destruction.

This of course than raises the question, why, then has destruction chosen to
live on earth, whin in turn brings up, why is important anyway?

----SCAVENGER

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From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,alt.comics.lnh
Subject: LNH: Dangler List
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:55:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Going thru some of my LNH files this morning, I came across the
official dangler list of the LNH.  The person who was in charge of it
at the time wanted someone else to take care of it.  I am offering my
services to work on the dangler list, if noone else is.  Could the
updated list be sent to me?



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Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 07:59:11 -0500 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: LSH: Evacuating the Earth
	<1992Nov7.084136.22826@leland.Stanford.EDU>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.misc: 7-Nov-92 Re: LSH: Evacuating
the Earth Terry Wong@leland.Stanfo (1182)

> You would be right given the old power level of DC superheroes.  However,
> the power levels of all DC superheros including Daxamites have been
> seriously reduced.  Daxamites can no longer come even close to moving
> Neutron stars or even small planets.  A Daxamite would not be able
> to move a large ark into orbit or push the great mass of the earth cities.
> See recent issues of Superman, Valor, and LSH to see what I mean.
> In fact, this makes for better writing because there is very little
> suspense or possible plot complications when the heros are nearly
> omnipotent.

Actually, unless I'm mistaken, you're wrong here. Superman and
Kryptonians are less powerful post-Crisis, but Daxamites have retained
their pre-Crisis power level.

--Vernon.
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Convergences: Themes?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 06:17:38 GMT

In article <lsmith.721265301@unity>, lsmith@unity.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
> In <1992Nov8.205807.18932@ils.nwu.edu> pautler@ils.nwu.edu (David Pautler) writes:
> 
> I like the convergence of stories. Of course we could converge Gaiman's stories
> of stories with other stories of stories...
> 
> >If there's any intended relationship between Russian folktales, Marco Polo,
> >and DC Biblical mythology, I haven't noticed.
> 
> I'd like to hope there isn't a connection.

I think there is.  Convergences.  Synchronicity.  Several unlikely people
meet in unlikely circumstances.  Marco Polo meets Gilbert and his future
biographer in a dream while traveling to the unknown of Cathay.  Vassily
(sp?) meets an old hag who just happened to have one of Dream's books while
on a quest for his future.  Daniel meets Eve, Cain and Abel while exploring
the wonders of the Dreamland.  Dream and Delirium meet (so far, mostly
unsuccessfully) unusual people to help them in their quest
for their errant sibling.
-- 
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From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Who'se Got The Reality Gem, part 23
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:33:09 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Nov5.080417.23503@netcom.com> akuma@netcom.com (Steven E Barnes) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov3.155904.1747@morgan.ucs.mun.ca> cweir@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Corey Weir) writes:
>> >           I believe, unlike the others, that the possessor of the last
>> >Infinity Gem is none other than Captain America. Who else personifies
>> >what the truly good presence on Earth can be like. Besides he's just the
>> >greatest superhero around, and would always find a way to keep the gem
>> >away from evil. Just a thought...
>
>Way back at the start of the Infinity Watch, Warlock was seen
>confering with some kind of energy field, a transmission from
>the entity with the gem.  This entity hardly acted in a manner
>in character with Cap. America; therfore, it is not him.
>
>Look, Thanos has it.
>
>The most compelling reason is simply that all the gems have
>been given to "Starlin characters."  I.e. characters either
>created by Starlin, or adopted by him (Warlock, Moondragon).
>The only "Starlin characters" that are left are: Thanos, Capt 
>Mar-vell (dead), other Titains (Mentor, Eros), Isaac, Eon,
>and maybe some other cosmic entities.  I may have forgotten some, but
>of these, only Thanos really fits the profile.  Besides, Thanos
>is Starlin's favorite character; I doubt he would leave Thanos
>out of the Infinity Gem action.
>
>Other reasons: Thanos is immune to the mind-reading power
>of the Mind Gem, just like all the other gem holders.  Thanos
>is a regular character in the Infinity Watch comic.  Warlock
>worked with Thanos to create the fake Reality Gem.

That, and the fact that we know that Warlock's choice for the Reality
Gem holder seems completely ILLOGICAL.  Looking at his choice without
the benefit of the omniscience of the Infinity Guantlet, Warlock
thought he made an EXTREMELY POOR choice.  Plus, the Living
Tribunal didn't even need to hear Eternity's reasoning why the
Reality Gem holder was a poor choice; the Tribunal already knew
and agreed that it was a poor choice, saying something like, "I'm
familiar with this one, and I don't think it's a good choice,
either."  Although there's probably a lot of other people out
there who would fit this description, Thanos seems like the best
(or worst, as the case may be) candidate.

That, and the fact that whenever they print a letter in Warlock
and the Infinity Watch from someone who thinks Thanos had the
Gem, they never address that issue.  They might mention it after
letters that mention the Gem, without saying Thanos has it, but
I'm not sure about that.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: cosc187r@rosie.uh.edu (92F06787)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: SYNOPSIS OF MAN OF STEEL#19 WANTED
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:08:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: rosie.13NOV199212081865
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Could someone please post a synopsis of part 5 of the Doomsday storyline.
Please.
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LSH: Elizabeth in lettercol!
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:57:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>:
>Since such a big deal was made out of Elmo getting mentioned in the
>lettercol, I thought it would be nice to point out that Elizabeth
>Holden's letter...
>Now I wonder: does this lend any credence to the theory that they only
>publish positive letters? };>

Don't be silly.  It tells us that if you want to appear in the letter
column, your name/id should begin with an 'e'.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   God helpe the man so wrapt in Errours endless traine  -- Edmund Spenser
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 01:35:11 -0500 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: LSH: Elizabeth in lettercol!

Since such a big deal was made out of Elmo getting mentioned in the
lettercol, I thought it would be nice to point out that Elizabeth
Holden's letter (regarding #31) was printed (in what appears to be its
entirety) in the lettercol of #38.

Congrats Elizabeth!

Now I wonder: does this lend any credence to the theory that they only
publish positive letters? };>

--Vernon.
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From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (St. Elmo's Fire)
Subject: Re: Sandman #44 Redux (SPOILERS)
Organization: Man in Motion
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:23:16 GMT
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In article <lsmith.721079223@myria>, lsmith@myria.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
> Perhaps St. Elmo could come up with a complete annotated index to all
> mentions of the Missing Sibling. What sayeth thou, O Mighty Elmo? (Why
> do I suspect his reply will be physically impossible?)
> 
	The Prodigal was first mentioned in issue 10; then again in 21, and
once or twice more in Season of Mists, and first appeared in the Special.  He 
has appeared in each issue of Brief Lives.  I am not certain of any other 
references.
-- 
"A narcissist is someone better looking than you are."                         
--Gore Vidal                                                                   
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
From: balbes@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: The Current Status of the Five (IMHO) Major Comic Distributors
Date: 8 Nov 92 11:25:47 EST

In article <1992Nov7.235958.23683@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, ast2r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Andrew Symons Troth) writes:
> In article <1992Nov6.055010.9174@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> kllove@panther.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kenneth L Love) writes:
>>
>>After reading some of the messages in this thread, all I can say is:
>>
>>   "Sheesh!  Am I the only person in the world buying DC comices almost
>>    exclusively and even LIKING it?!?".
>>
>>Enough of my ranting...
>>
>>                                                  Later,
>>                                                  Kenneth Love
> 
> Nope. You're not alone. I'm here too.
> 	But there are precious few of us these days, aren
> 't there?
> 

Count me in.  I have a hard time dealing with a comic that doesn't
acknowledge the existence of Superman or Batman or Flash or Green Lantern.
I read some Marvel and others, but i'm more willing to give DC the 
benefit of the doubt on new titles than the others.  Irrational?
Sure.  Sue me. ;-)

By the way.  I love the Robin III moving covers.  A much better effect
than I expected.

Mark Balbes
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From: wen5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Stan T2 Wen)
Subject: Re: Hulk
Reply-To: wen5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:54:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.111604.1@skcla.monsanto.com> jjfink@skcla.monsanto.com writes:
>
>The Hulk, on the other hand, (a) doesn't scar, (b) doesn't heal, he GETS
>BETTER.  What is regeneration, anyway?  Are his cells dividing at an ungodly
>rate, meaning the Hulk needs one heck of a pizza break after a fight, or is his
>flesh being created out of whole cloth by the power of his mind (my pet theory
>is that almost all 'scientifically impossible' things in the Marvel universe
>are done by the mind/device openning a gateway to another dimension's power,
>and channelling it into something).
>

In the Handbook to the Marvel Universe, it says that the Hulk's mass and
regeneration come from extradimensional sources.  There is some goofy
explanation about how that could explain how he sees mystic beings like
Dr. Strange in astral mode.

To me it's alot of bother.  Just how does Cyclops fire a beam that can
knock over a building, but not have an "equal and opposite" kick that
tears his head off and leaves it as a brain stain on the sidewalk behind
him?
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From: grendel@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Blood Clot Boy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: The Seventh Endless: David (was Re: Sandman #44)
Date: 7 Nov 1992 08:08:09 GMT
Organization: The International House of Secretions
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In article <1df3qoINNlj4@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> kens@css.itd.umich.edu (Ken Small) writes:
*I'm not sure of the origin of this song, but I do remember singing it as a
*child, probably getting it from my parents.  I'm sure it's much older than
*any Dawid Bowie song, and probably is an old English folk song.  If I
*remeber correctly, Marillion's version is an ironic, warped version of
*what is normally a nice little folk song/nursery rhyme.

Well, I don't know about Bowie or Marillion, but the song is an old
English folk song called Lavender's Blue.  It was first printed in 1680
(although it may have been around longer) under the title "Diddle Diddle."

I got this information from a book called "Rise Up Singing" which is filled
with songs like this.  Interestingly enough, it's found in the section
called Dreams & Fantasies.


Mark "Dilly dilly" Lippert
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From: mlf@wdl30.wdl.loral.com (Mike L Forster)
Subject: "Strange Sports Stories", 1960s - how to find
Summary: I'd like help in finding these stories.
Keywords: DC 1960s Strange Sports Stories
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 19:11:13 GMT

Hi.

In the 1960s, I read hundreds of DC comics.  (I wish I'd kept them!)

One series of stories was called, "Strange Sports Stories".  It
appeared at the back of World's Finest or some other such title.

Does anyone have information on this series of stores (about a dozen,
I think).

I'd like to reread them, perhaps even purchase them as a gift.

Thanks!

>  Mike Forster   mlf@wdl1.wdl.loral.com


-- 
-----------  Mike Forster
Disclaimer:  The above opinions are my own.  They are not related to the
             official or unofficial policies of LORAL/WDL or the
             U.S. Goverment (or my family, friends, pets, ...)
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From: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Subject: Re: Curiosity:  what kind of deals do y'all get?
Reply-To: ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Eric Jaron Stieglitz)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 06:36:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.032018.6598@sol.UVic.CA> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:
>I'm really curious.  Most of us here buy a fair number of comics.  I'm inter-
>ested to know what kind of deals other netters get.  Do you get a discount on
>new issues?  Does your retailer give out a lot of freebie stuff?  Does he
>offer bulk preorder deals?  This kind of stuff.
>
>Post or e-mail, so I can summarize.
>
>-------
>Scowling Jim Cowling
>Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria (opinions disassociated)
>-------



  When I'm at home, my retailer usually gives me a 20% discount on new books.
(It comes out to about 14% off cover, after taxes). Since I buy more than 
ten books each month, he holds them at cover price until I pick them up.
I find this quite useful since I've been away from home for over two months 
and I don't have to worry about the books selling out. He also gives out a 
free bag with each book. I can also get back-issues held for a while. 

///
No .sig file....just a stupid remark
ejs16@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Michael R Escutia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DC- Massive Vertigo Crossover
Date: 11 Nov 1992 03:26:43 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <rdippold.721282442@qualcom> rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>Anyone else notice in the latest Previews that one of the things being
>talked about for the new Vertigo line (Sandman, Hellblazer, Swamp
>Thing, etc.) is a massive intertitle crossover?
>
>Yech.  Insanity War?
Yes, but THIS one might actually be done GOOD, unlike recent crossovers. (no 
names neccessary, I should think.)
				--MikE

>The [Ford Foundation] is a large body of money completely surrounded by
>people who want some. -- Dwight MacDonald
So do I.


-- 
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           Vote Archer & Armstrong for Pres and VP in '92.
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From: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au (Robi Karp)
Subject: Re: Curiosity:  what kind of deals do y'all get?
Reply-To: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au
Organization: Expert Solutions Australia
	<lis.721101924@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> <1992Nov7.032018.6598@sol.UVic.CA>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 01:35:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.032018.6598@sol.UVic.CA> jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA
(Scowling Jim Cowling) writes:

: I'm really curious.  Most of us here buy a fair number of comics.
: I'm inter- nested to know what kind of deals other netters get.  Do
: you get a discount on new issues?  Does your retailer give out a lot
: of freebie stuff?  Does he offer bulk preorder deals?  This kind of
: stuff.

Well, in Australia, new comics are not where the dealer will really
make money, that is unless he charges a fortune. The problem is
beacuse of the air mail costs, exchange rates, etc... they end up
costing a lot more in general. For example a $2.00 US comic may cost
something like $4.50 OZ. They make most of the money on things like
back issues etc.. Personally, I have even more cost involved, as I
live in another state to my dealer and get him to ship them to me COD
every two months or so. The reason I do this is because he looks after
me in terms of not missing issues (who _hasn't_ had that happen to
them !!) and throwing in things which he thinks I'll like. Besides,
I've been buying from him for about 5 or 6 years now. The way I get
some form of discount is that he'll round it down to the nearest $10
or so. I don't actually expect it, he just sends me a fax saying that
the next shipment is ready and $100 (or whetever) will cover it. He'll
throw in the occassional poster, freebie, but not with any regularity.

Hope this helps your survey,

	- Robi
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From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Dream and the Prodigal do history..
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:18:46 GMT

mkelly@chaucer.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly) writes:
> el24+@andrew.cmu.edu (Edward Liu) writes:
>|>    If my chem teacher was right, ROYGBIV came from an attempt to match the
>|> colors of the spectrum to the Western 8-note musical scale, since this would
>|> show some incredible balance between sight and sound, and demonstrate the

>Erm, ROYGBIV has 7 letters. So Newton was obviously matching to the Endless.
>Destruction went prodigal, and Indigo light went with him. ;) Actually, I
>heard that 7 colors were chosen because of the 7 saintly virtues. (or some
>such religious poop)

An octave is eight notes, but the last is the first at a higher
frequency - ABCDEFGA (or CDEFGABC as it's usually done)...  Try it with
the old song: do re me fa so la ti do.  The eight comes from the
second do.  So you'd match up ROYGBIV with ABCDEFG.

-- 
Eeny, Meeny, Jelly Beanie, the spirits are about to speak. -- Bullwinkle