HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Newsgroups: sci.edu
Subject: Re: memory
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:47:55 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <1993Jan27.160255.10176@midway.uchicago.edu> awl1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>as a student, I am interested to know what is the best way to keep what I learn from science textbooks in my memory ( not a cramming-for-tests memory, but long term memory)

I doubt that anyone really knows; I have found that in at least one case
(German) I retained the material much better than I thought I would, even
with years of total disuse.

I might suggest that any facts be related to structure and concepts.  Are
concepts, once learned, ever forgotten?  It is extremely difficult to test
this.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@snap.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
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From: wayman@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Jeffrey Wayman)
Subject: Re: memory
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 05:43:08 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <C1JBBw.6CL@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.160255.10176@midway.uchicago.edu> awl1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>as a student, I am interested to know what is the best way to keep what I learn from science textbooks in my memory ( not a cramming-for-tests memory, but long term memory)
>
>I doubt that anyone really knows; I have found that in at least one case
>(German) I retained the material much better than I thought I would, even
>with years of total disuse.
>
>I might suggest that any facts be related to structure and concepts.  Are
>concepts, once learned, ever forgotten?  It is extremely difficult to test
>this.

Yeah, I agree.  As I'm sure any mathematician knows, it takes far less 
"knowledge" or "memory" or whatever if one learns the concept because he
understands it rather than memorizes it.  And, I'll take this even one 
step further:  When I went to graduate school, my "concept" learning
method occasionally broke down; I actually forgot a few concepts.  Although
I'm not sure this is true, I suspected it was because I was being exposed
to more information in a shorter period of time than ever before.  Further,
I theorized that, since I had this new concentration of information, my
brain wasn't going to retain even a concept unless it was "ready" or
"uncluttered".  The adjustment I made was to make sure that I was "ready"
when I needed to learn, making a conscious effort to turn off the background
stuff I was thinking of.  This sounds a lot like concentration problems, 
but I don't think it was that; maybe my brain was working on these other
things subconsciously and the problem I had was like static on AM radio.

Although I don't completely understand what was happening (could you figure
that out?!), it did teach me that I learned a lot better when I made
myself "ready".  Anyone got any thoughts on that or can anyone put what
I said in a more scientific light?

Hell, maybe I'm just getting old.

Jeff         wayman@lamar.colostate.edu
Newsgroups: sci.edu
From: gail.ridley@cs.utas.edu.au (Gail Ridley)
Subject: Need contact with pharmacists
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 23:58:05 GMT

Hello,

I would like to make contact with pharmacists in Australia, US and UK.  I
want to put questions to them about the use of software and hardware in
community pharmacies, and the training that they and their pharmacy assistants
have received to use these information technologies.

Thankyou,
Gail Ridley 

Newsgroups: sci.edu
From: awl1@quads.uchicago.edu (alpha wei-min lo)
Subject: memory
Reply-To: awl1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:02:55 GMT

as a student, I am interested to know what is the best way to keep what I learn from science textbooks in my memory ( not a cramming-for-tests memory, but long term memory)


thanks
   Al

Newsgroups: sci.edu
From: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Subject: SUBJECTS NEEDED FOR PSYCH. STUDY
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: gpmenos@firestone.Princeton.EDU (Gerard Philippe Menos)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:55:52 GMT

SUBJECTS NEEDED FOR PSYCH. STUDY

I am posting the following announcement for my sister.  She is looking  
for subjects, primarily in the New York City area (the closer to  
Manhattan, the better) or in the vicinty of Princeton, NJ, to  
participate as subjects in a study on the psychology of the postpartum  
period.

At this point, my sister is in greatest need of subjects for the  
control group --females between 18 to 40 years of age, with no  
children, who are not presently pregnant.  If you can participate or  
if you know people who can participate, please read on.  The telephone  
nunber to call is listed below.

Thanks,
Phil Menos

--------------------------------------------------------------
                      SUBJECTS NEEDED

I AM A Ph.D. CANDIDATE IN CLINICAL PSYCHOLOGY, CONDUCTING A
STUDY OF THE POSTPARTUM PERIOD, A LONG NEGLECTED AREA OF
RESEARCH.

                IF YOU ARE 18-40, FEMALE AND

O    EITHER RECENTLY GAVE BIRTH TO A CHILD (WITHIN THE LAST
     NINE MONTHS)

O    OR DO NOT HAVE CHILDREN AND ARE NOT CURRENTLY PREGNANT,

YOU ARE ELIGIBLE TO PARTICIPATE IN A STUDY THAT WILL TAKE 15
MINUTES OF YOUR TlME WITH ME.  AFTER THIS BRIEF MEETING, YOU
WILL BE GIVEN A PACKET OF PSYCHOLOGICAL INVENTORIES THAT WILL
TAKE 40 MINUTES TO 1 1/2 HOURS TO COMPLETE (DEPENDING ON
WHETHER YOU CHOOSE TO DO THE ABBREVIATED VERSION OR NOT), AT
YOUR LEISURE.  THE PACKET WILL BE SELF-ADDRESSED AND STAMPED.
WHEN YOU ARE DONE, JUST PUT IT INTO THE MAILBOX.

AFTER THE REBULTS HAVE BEEN ANALYZED, IF YOU WISH, I WILL
CALL YOU TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ABOUT
THE 5TUDY AND TO GIVE YOU FEEDBACK REGARDING YDUR TYPICAL
MODES OF FUNCTIONING ALONG VARIOUS DIMENSIONS OF PERSONALITY,
YOUR TYPICAL SHIFTS IN PERSONALITY ORGANIZATION UNDER STRESS,
YOUR PERSONAL STRENGTHS AND WEAKNESSES AND OTHER PATTERNS OF
PSYCHOLOGICAL FUNCTIONING SUGGESTED BY YOUR RESPONSES.

THE STUDY IS BEING CONDUCTED ALONG AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL
ASSOCIATION RESEARCH GUIDELINES.  ALL DATA IS STRICTLY
CONFIDENTIAL.  YOU WILL BE IDENTIFIED WITH A CODE NUMBER.
INFORMATION LINKING YOU WITH THIS CODE NUMBER WILL BE
DESTROYED ONCE WE HAVE HAD OUR TELEPHONE FEEDBACK SESSION.

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN PARTICIPATING OR GETTING MORE
INFORMATION, PLEASE CALL:

                           Micka
                        (212) 666-2174.

              PLEASE PASS THIS ON TO A FRIEND.

                        THANK YOU.

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Systems Administrator,   Princeton University Libraries
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Newsgroups: sci.edu,misc.education
From: susan@csbvax.uucp (Susan Finkelman)
Subject: Re: Merit pay
Organization: Varian Chromatography Systems
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 17:09:40 GMT

In article <C19w5p.B4B@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.161440.936@varian.com> susan@csbvax.uucp (Susan Finkelman) writes:
>>And what does a parent do when she tries to get her child to give up
>>the counting aids in the 2nd grade and again in the 3rd grade and is
>>told by the teachers that the children will be using them in school until
>>the fifth grade if the children would like to?  We teach our kids at
>>home and use the school for childcare as we both must work.  Something
>>is wrong here...
>
>You have stated it well; all the schools do even moderately well is
>child care, and we have also seen that they do not even do that well.
>Would you send your children to a child care center which allows some
>of them to beat up others?
>
>How much should "teachers" who can only do child care be paid?
Dunno - I think my youngest's child care providers are underpaid.
They're paid by the hour they're in the classroom, they don't get prep
time paid, they do lesson plans and organize activities, and I have
never had a problem getting conference time.  These people make @ $8.50/hr.
with scrawny benefits.
Susan
susan@varian.com
Organization: Doctoral student, English, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: sci.edu
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:00:10 -0500 
From: Lili Velez <lv08+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Growing up to be a truck driver (was: RE: Branding Kids)              

I teach.  I want all of my students to become critical thinkers, to be
creative in the fields they pursue and the lives they lead outside of their
work.  But there's been something that's bothered me about this "Branding
Kids" thread, and the last message from MIT (forgive me; I can't see the
message I'm responding to, but I remember it was an athena address) crystal-
lized it for me.

Is there something inherently _wrong_ about being a truck driver?  Must we
be disappointed in someone who _wants_ to be a beautician, a cook, a
mechanic?

Yes, I completely understand being distressed when someone believes that one
career or another is the "only job they could ever be suited for, so
why try...?".  Abandoned or misguided potential is a tremendous loss, to
both the person and the society which has to trundle on without their
contributions -- but it seems to me that we can brand careers ('vocations'?)
as unworthy or `below us' just as easily as we can brand children.

Come to think of it, I have an an example of this in my own family.  I'm
finishing my PhD.  I've always loved academics (give or take some horrible
moments in my mathematics education, but I'm about ready to repair that
damage).  My brother has managed with his academics, but his goal was never
a college career, it was to be a police officer (local or state trooper).
My parents wanted him to go to college (particularly my mother, who was much
more open than my father about saying that "Erik, you could be so much
_more_ than just a police officer!").  The local police officers tried
steering him away from the idea, telling him he could really do a lot
better than a career in law enforcement.  What's going on here?

Someone has to drive the trucks and repair the wiring which makes our
pleasant academic discussions possible.  I know that this bboard is for
discussions of science and education, but there are sociological aspects
 to how and why people become 'educated' --- would it be easier to convince
the ordinary majority of citizens to support educational initiatives to
improve education in the sciences if we demonstrated that we respected who
they are and what they do with their lives?

Lili Fox Velez
Rhetorician in Residence                 "Rhet in the Blue Linen Labcoat"
Department of Biological Sciences
Carnegie Mellon University
From: achilles@cheshire.oxy.edu (Gregory Jonathan Williams)
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: Re: Questionable Epithets
Keywords: help?
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:32:14 GMT
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.

In article <1993Jan21.192753.13576@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> lnh@physics.arizona.edu writes:
>
>2) Is there an epithet for Hermes meaning (roughly) Clever One?  If not,
>what would an invented one be?
>
Well, polymetis comes to mind, the epithet associated with Odysseus.  
Means many-minded, but I associate it with his craft, cleverness and cunning.
Sophos might also work in a loose sense.  I'm still learning Greek, so 
my knowledge isn't extensive, but these came to mind and I thought I'd offer 
them.

Anyone else care to comment?

-Greg
From: lnh@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (sometimes a Wombat)
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: Questionable Epithets
Keywords: help?
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:27:53 GMT
Reply-To: lnh@physics.arizona.edu
Organization: Society for the Appreciation of Janni Lee Simner


A couple questions:

1) To what epithet of Zeus would a woman have prayed for retribution on
her rapist?  I'm currently using Zeus Soter.  I suspect that she might 
alternatively prayer to Artemis or Hera, but that fact would be 
inconvient and will be ignored.

2) Is there an epithet for Hermes meaning (roughly) Clever One?  If not,
what would an invented one be?

3) Is there any other source for the story of Hermaphroditus and
Salmacis than Ovid?  I can't find any, but I'd like to be certain.

Thanks bunches.

	Larry "Flower Man" Hammer
--

LNH@physics.arizona.edu   \  For love all love of other sights controls,
GEnie: L.HAMMER2           \ And makes one little room an everywhere -- Donne
Newsgroups: sci.classics
From: gnat@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Nathan Torkington)
Subject: Re: Renewed effort towards a sci.classics FAQ
Organization: Contract to CSC, Victoria Uni, Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:46:38 GMT

pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU) writes:

> There's been a resurgence of activity on the classics-faq editors
> mailing list with regard to writing and publishing a list of Frequently
> Asked Questions (with answers) for the newsgroup.  This will serve as a
> reasonably definitive resource guide for the Classics on the Internet.

This is as good a time as any to start thrashing out ideas for
contents of the FAQ.  If it is to serve as a "definitive resource
guide", then I suggest it contain at least sections for:
  Bibliography for the Neophyte
	Such elementary literature as would be understood by someone
	posting and saying "hey, this has always sounded interesting --
	someone tell me more about the Greeks"
  Bibliography on Specialised Subjects
	Literature more suited towards questions like "hey, I just
	found this quote -- what does it mean", and also current areas of
	research and academic activity into the field in general.
  Computer-Readable Materials
  	Things like the Oxford Text Archive's works, anything that
	might be published by Project Gutenberg, ...

Are there any questions or subjects that are frequently raised?

Nat
Newsgroups: sci.classics
From: stigh@itk.unit.no (Stig Atle Haugdahl)
Subject: latin FTP?
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology / SINTEF, Trondheim, Norway
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:58:55

Are there any FTPs that have latin texts?
I know the english bible is found almost anywhere,
but has anyone seen the vulgata?
Or anything else?

--


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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 21 Jan 1993 09:06:34 MST
From: <ATRSC@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: Claudius Ptolemaius register

I am attempting to locate an English translation of the meteorological register
kept by Claudius Ptolemaius at Alexandria in the first century A.D.  Does
anyone have any information on if or where such a translation may be
found?
   Randall S. Cerveny
   Department of Geography
   Arizona State University
    (602) 965-7533
    ATRSC@ASUACAD.BITNET
From: ATRSC@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: Claudius Ptolemy Writings
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:39:45 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University

Thank you to everyone for their assistance on my hunt for the C. Ptolemy
register of weather.  The information I have available (and it is old -
1931) suggests that the data I want are found in "Ptolemaei opera
astronomica minora" (of the British Museum Library) and/or "Chronologie
de Ptolemee" published by Halma in Paris in 1819.  However, as I am
a climatologist rather than a classics expert, I am hoping that English
translations of these works (or related works) may be available.  Again
thank you for your assistance.
   Randall S. Cerveny
   Department of Geography
   Arizona State University
     ATRSC@ASUACAD (BITNET)
     (602) 965-7533
Newsgroups: sci.classics
From: eshin@ddsw1.mcs.com (Eshin-Fun)
Subject: Motto
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:46:22 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago IL
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

In the recent film the "Addams Family" and also in the cartoon series of the
same, they present the Addams credo (written on the family tombstone) as
saying in Latin:
SIC GORGIAMUS ALLUS SUBJECTATOS NUNC

Supposedly meaning:
We gladly fest on those who would subdue us.

Now, is this Latin inscription supposed to be:
SIC GORGIAMUS ALLOS SUBJECTATUS NUNC?
or is it:
SIC GORGIAMUS ALLUS SUBJECTOS NUNC?
or is it:
SIC GORGIAMUS ALLOS SUBJECTOS NUNC?

In the film, the tombstone reads SUBJECTOS but the character Mortitia says
SUBJECTATUS.

I've gotten myself confused with tense etc. Is there anyone out there with
Latin language familiarity to help me clear the proper way of writing this
Latin Phrase?
I like this motto a lot and would like to use it. But I have to know that I
am using correctly.
Eshin-Fun

Newsgroups: sci.classics
From: bhill@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Robert S. Hill)
Subject: Re: A Latin Translation
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Hughes STX Corp./NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:47:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan20.191627.22268@wdl.loral.com>, 
robishaw@asteroid.lrmsc.loral.com (Gary Robishaw x5960) writes...
>Please excuse me if this the wrong newsgroup. I am an avid cyclist and one of
>my favorite films is 'American Flyers'. Part of the film is set in a sports
>medical clinic at the University of Wisconsin where they perform various
>tests and studies regarding the physical limits of athletes. The clinics motto
>is "RES FIRMA MITESCERE NESCIT". The director of the clinic says "...roughly
>translated, it means "Once you've got it up, keep it up.""

A hard thing does not know how to get soft. (? - don't have dictionary)

Robert S. Hill                  
bhill@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov
From: sizex@bnr.co.uk (Eric Barber)
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: archaeology and the law
Date: 20 Jan 1993 11:45:11 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, London Road, Harlow, England.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.199.202.49

My wife has a semester project on archaeology and the law.
She is especially interested in the law on treasure trove.
Does anyone have any information on similarities between
British and other laws on treasure trove, or perhaps the
consequences of not having any? For "other" read Scandinavian,
Dutch, Irish, countries with legal systems evolved from the
British. Canadian would be especially interesting since the
law on treasure trove has been recently changed (from the
British model to something more suitable to Canadian
circumstances?).

please email me, and thanks.
Eric
   _    "just a Texan a long way from home"
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From: lnh@soliton.physics.arizona.edu (sometimes a Wombat)
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: How is Harrison doing these days?
Date: 22 Jan 93 17:25:17 GMT
Reply-To: lnh@physics.arizona.edu
Organization: Society for the Appreciation of Janni Lee Simner


How outdated, and in what scholarly repute, are Jane Harrison's studies
of Greek Religion?  I'm reading the PROLEGOMENA TO THE STUDY OF GREEK
RELIGION now, and find it facinating, and wonder, is it still true (if
it ever was) (tho' if was reprinted, it was probably held as at least a
mirror of some part of the truth) ?

	Larry "Keep out the chthons!" Hammer
--

                         \                     Time ...
LNH@physics.arizona.edu   \   Worships language and forgives
GEnie: L.HAMMER2           \  Everyone by whom it lives   -- Auden
Newsgroups: sci.classics
From: achilles@cheshire.oxy.edu (Gregory Jonathan Williams)
Subject: Looking for a book about...
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:28:27 GMT

I just finished reading Peter Green's "Alexander of Macedon" and I was
completely fascinated by his descriptions and analyses of Alexander's
military strategies.  He doesn't spend too much time on them, however,
and I was wondering if anyone could suggest a book that deals with
Greek military strategy (any period)  I'd love to learn more about 
the Macedonians' strategies (under both Alexander and Philip) and
also have those strategies compared to those of earlier Greek 
generals.  If you know of a book touching on any or all of these points,
please e-mail me. Thanks.

-Greg
achilles@cheshire.oxy.edu

Newsgroups: sci.classics
From: matt@smoke.brl.mil (Matthew Rosenblatt)
Newsgroups: sci.classics
Subject: Re: Nut, Egyptian sky goddess
Summary: Watch out for those graven images!
Keywords: Judgment executed against Egyptian gods -- film at 1.
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:30:30 GMT
Organization: U.S. Army Ballistic Research Lab, APG MD.

In article <1993Jan19.171911.3959@klaava.Helsinki.FI> 
amnell@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Marko Amnell) writes:

>I'm looking for references on Nut, the ancient Egyptian sky goddess.
. . .
>. . . I'm specifically interested in the details
>of Nut's physical appearance.  I already know, eg. that she is portrayed
>in the nude.  I'm asking this for a friend who is working on a sculpture of
>Nut, and she would like to be as accurate as possible in her depiction.
>[Marko Amnell]

I was happy to provide Marko Amnell and his friend, Rosanne, with
whatever information I could find on this subject in Professor 
E. A. Wallis Budge's book, _The Mummy_.  But I know that Mr. Amnell
is a student of the Scriptures, and so I would like to call his
attention to two sections of the Book of Exodus:

    "For I will go through the land of Egypt in that night,
  and will smite all the first-born in the land of Egypt,
  both man and beast; and against all the gods of Egypt I
  will execute judgments; I am the L-RD."  Exodus (2 Moses) 12:12

Nut, along with her husband Seb and her assorted offspring Osiris,
Isis, Set (Typhon), Nephthys, Anubis, Shu, and Tefnut, are among
the "gods of Egypt" upon whom the L-RD executed judgment during
the Tenth Plague.  It should be noted that no one believes in
these Egyptian gods any more, and no one worships them, even
though there are still people who believe in Krishna, Rama,
Vishnu, and Shiva.

    "Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, nor any
  manner of likeness, of any thing that is in heaven above,
  or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water
  under the earth; thou shalt not bow down unto them, nor
  serve them . . ."  Exodus (2 Moses) 20:4-5a.

Among the People of the Book, prohibition against graven images 
of items in the earth, sea, or sky has been followed most strictly 
by Muslims, and least strictly by Christians, with Jews somewhere
in between.  I was recently advised that a wooden representation
I had made of the New Moon (essentially a black disk with a thin 
silver sliver along one edge) would have to be withdrawn and replaced
because it runs afoul of a "black list" of objects that it is still 
forbidden for Jews to carve because these objects were once or 
are still worshipped as gods somewhere.

I recognize that Rosanne will be sculpting her image of Nut either
for artistic or academic purposes, with no thought in mind that
any fool out there would actually worship such an image.  Still,
it might be wise for her and Marko to consult a competent religious
authority, appropriate to whatever religion(s) they may believe in,
before going ahead with this project.

					-- Matt Rosenblatt
                                        (matt@amsaa.brl.mil)

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