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From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Re: Ian Botham
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:43:37 GMT

In article <C1I0zn.BEJ@uceng.uc.edu>, bnataraj@uceng.uc.edu (Bhaskar Natarajan) writes:

|> 	Can someone from England post Botham's record in tests for the
|> period when he was at his peak (say '80 to '84)...I think that will lay
|> to rest all doubts about his phenomenal dominance.

And it wasn;t just his record.. its one thing to be a model of consistency, always doing your bit to help the team -- such players are very valuable and form the core of a team.  However, what is even better is the ability to single-handedly swing a game (into your teams favour:-) either with the bat or the ball  -- Botham did both, consistently, in theperiod you mention.  But, mere figures, I don't think, will echo his dominance -- still they should make quite some reading -- perhaps a year-by-year, or ev








en better, a series by series vbreakup of Botham's career will showthis (also please mark the series where he was a captain:-).

|> Cheers
|> Bhaskar

Again, as with Shastri, I am not fond of Botham the person and some of his
escapades leave me cold... but my admiration for Botham the cricketer is]
(obviously:-) immense (and, it goes with saying, in hardly any way does
Shastri's talent/ability/performance match Botham's -- whose does? -- but
the Shastri thing was just an analogy:-)

Bharat
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From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Lankans are ready to go....
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:42:58 GMT


 Sri Lanka  picks 14-member squad for Sharjah triangular

     COLOMBO, Jan 26 (AFP) - Sri Lanka named a strong 14-member
squad for their brief  visit to Sharjah  next month  where they
will play Pakistan and Zimbabwe in  a triangular one-day series,
cricket officials here said Tuesday.

    Skipper  Arjuna Ranatunga  will have  the services of virtu-
ally the entire team  that played against Australia and New Zea-
land in  the one-day series here last  year for the Sharjah con-
test from February 1 to February 5, the officials said.

    The team includes two new caps, Ranatunga's younger brother
Nishantha and batsman Dulip Samaraweera. One-day star Ruwan Kal-
page and seamer Pramodya  Wickramasinmghe  will join the  squad
from South Africa.

    Both Kalpage and Wickramasinghe are currently touring South
Africa with  Sri Lanka's  under-24 squad.  Medium pacer Manjula
Munasinghe will be despatched to South Africa to replace Wickra-
masinghe.

     Sri  Lanka is  scheduled to  play  Pakistan in the opening
match of the Sharjah tournament.

The Sri Lanka  squad: Arjuna Ranatunga (Capt.), Roshan Mahanama,
Aravinda  de Silva, Asanka  Gurusinha, Champaka Ramanayake, Don
Anurasiri, Jayananda Warnaweera, Chandika Hathurusinghe, Hashan
Tillekeratne, Gamini  Wickramasinghe,  Ruwan  Kalpage, Pramodya
Wickramasinghe, Dulip Samaraweera, Nishantha Ranatunga.

Manager: Duleep Mendis.

===
Thanks: Agence France Presse


Vicky:
UMass, Jan 28
From: rajesh@ivy (Rajesh Raman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Indian team for 1st Test -- Discussion
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:56:54 GMT
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Mohan Krishnamoorthy (mohan@theta.mel.dms.CSIRO.AU) wrote:
: 
: Kambli is good enough to open.  In fact, I think he will make a good
: test opener.  

	Why do you think that he would make a good opener ?

--

Rajesh Raman

--
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From: ccrob@uqvax.cc.uq.oz.au (Rob McMillan)
Subject: Re: Aus team for 4th test, possible WI team
Organization: University of Queensland
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:34:05 GMT

In article <farrell.727571379@coral>, farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell) writes:
>   I think this has been Australia's problem for a few years - we have heaps of
> number 5 and 6 batsmen, and some very talented openers, but nobody wants to
> get in and do the hard work at 3 and 4. ... I was hoping
> for Siddons or Moody somebody to do the job, but these guys all seem to have
> one great season then collapse. For example, Stuart Law has been dropped from
> the Queensland side after being a possible Australian selection last year.
> 
> Friendless, who still doesn't like Whit much.

Amen. If you believe the papers down here Friendless, Justin Langer's got it
all practically to himself within 12 months. Then again, he, like Hayden and
Martyn, (and Siddons, Lehmann, Bevan, etc before them) have all had a great
season (91-92), without a further *full* season of success after that. The
difference is of course that these three have continued on this season (whereas
Bevan, for instance, struggled last year, and has since lost his spot for NSW).

I think Moody and Law can kiss any pretentions to (further) international
honours. Lehmann's still a chance at some stage (he's still only 23 i think,
with about 4 years first class experience). Siddons will probably never
represent again, and much as I hate to say it, Deano's ambitions must be a
little shaky (will he or will he not do a Bruce Dooland and play his career out
in England?).

I think Hayden, Martyn and Langer, along with Boon, Taylor, the Waughs (and
Bevan in the not too distant future) will be the basis of the side in the next
5 years. I hope Deano can come back, though. 

The bowling is more of a worry. There are a few spinners starting to come on 
(two spinners at the recent U-19 championships did well - a Victorian and a 
Queenslander). Apart from McDermott though, there don't seem to be too many 
fast bowlers running around who seem to be able to really put the willies 
amongst batsman. Although he was never an express bowler, it's a pity Dick
Tazelaar never got the nod before his back gave way - mind you he's still
bowling great spells for Queensland.

--
Rob. (who thought that Rupert the harmonica-playing light-tower-climbing
      alcoholic was the most entertaining part of the Sunday ODI at the Gabba).
From: peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM (Peter Miles)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: QUIZ
Date: 28 Jan 1993 07:21:13 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
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In article AA22410@mik.uky.edu, mhiri01@mik.uky.edu (Manjunath Hiriyannaiah) writes:
Can anyone tell, who is the only batsman , who scored a boundary in his
first and last ball of his cricket carrer?
 
-Manjunath H



I would hazard a guess that it was Gregory Stephen Chappell.?????

Regards  Peter.
From: govindra@maya.rutgers.edu (S Govindarajan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Mark Taylor ambidextrous
Summary: Ambidextrous cricketers
Keywords: australian
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:14:59 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

> In article <1993Jan15.145434.165538@dstos3.dsto.gov.au> gbf@se21.itd writes:
> 
> Does anyone know of any other ambidextrous cricketers.
> 

Azharuddin can field and throw with either hand. At one time, he used
to do it pretty frequently. Does he still do that? Don't know whether
he can bowl or bat left-handed. Incidentally, Azahruddin played for
his school team as a leg-spinner. Wonder why he never tried bowling
that stuff later. 

Govind.
email: govindra@maya.rutgers.edu
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Subject: Re: 4th Test WI v Aus - Stumps on 4th day
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:55:45 EST
Organization: Penn State University
Supersedes: <93026.135239SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>

i don't know if anyone else has noticed, but australia has been involved in
the five closest test matches of all time- two tie and two 3 run decisions and
today's 1 run decision.
twice they have benefited- when they beat england by 3  runs ages and ages ago,
and when india had to settle for a tie after needing just 18 to win with 4
wickets in hand.
thrice they have suffered- when they tied the WI after needing about 20 runs
with 4 wickets in hand, when they lost to england by 3 in 83  and today when
they lost by one run.
'nuff said.

Stay cool,
Spaceman Spiff

Non illegitimati carborundum          Don't let the bastards get you down
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From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Re: Gavaskar Quiz
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:42:27 GMT

In article <C1Dv2A.9oK@acsu.buffalo.edu>, skumar@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shivesh Kumar) writes:
|> Shyam Prasad Talluri (spt@engr.LaTech.edu) wrote:
|> 
|> : 	I want to write some comments which I recollect on Gavaskar's 
|> : 	batting. I'll be happy if anybody could identify the context of the 
|> : 	comment.
|>
|> : 	test other's interest in Gavaskar. It's a pity that people have 
|> : 	written comments comparing gavaskar to Vengsarkar and Amarnath.Such
|> : 	comments thoroughy  expose the lack of knowledge in the game and it's
|> : 	useless to comment back on any such type of comments.
|
|> 
|> My dear Mr.Talluri,
|> 
|> Have you ever played cricket?????????? 
|> 
|> Well, simply collecting comments won't make you knowledgible
|> enough say anything about cricket.I'd better advice you to play some
|> cricket first and then only you can undestand the details of the game which 
|> is very important for anyone to become eligible to pass back comments.
|> good luck

Hmmm.. any one know if Cardus was a decent player...

Also, a number of excellent cricket players are lousy commentators
or students of the game....  I am sure our friends from Oz can
name many,...
 
And to the original poster -- why is comparing Gavaskar to Vengsarkar
such an outlandish comparison.  They are the number 1 and 2 run producers
in Indian cricket, both were considered world class bats at their
peaks and scored freely at home and abroad...

Of course, I believe that most observers (including myself) will
firmly place Gavaskar well ahead of Vengsarkar -- but by no means is
the comparison ludicrous...

|> 
|> Shivesh
Bharat

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From: bnataraj@uceng.uc.edu (Bhaskar Natarajan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Wasim Akran appointed Pakistan captain
Date: 27 Jan 93 07:41:02 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <93026.211613U17868@uicvm.uic.edu> Sikander Waheed <U17868@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:

>I don't think it is Imran who is instrumental in making Akram as captain of P
>akistan cricket team. He and Javed have always been good freinds. Imran did say
		       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	As much like Kapil and Gavaskar	? ;-)
Cheers
Bhaskar
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From: rohanc@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rohan Koduvayur Kri Chandran)
Subject: Re: Akram
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:21:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.200402.18044@cs.sfu.ca> apurva@cs.sfu.ca (Apurva Desai) writes:

>That would not only be a loss to Pakistan cricket but also to world cricket.
>I hope it doesn't mark the end of The Best Bowler In The World Today.

er... where does Curtly Ambrose come into this????????

Rohan

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From: R2SK9@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Srinivas Kandikattu)
Subject: Re: QUESTION ABOUT GAVASKAR
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:03:08 GMT

In article <1ji4atINN3g3@bigboote.WPI.EDU>
rajesh@juniper (Rajesh Raman) writes:
 
>
>
>Well, as far as belligerence from Gavaskar is concerned, I don't think
>there was any innings that was more belligerent than the WC '87 match
>against NZ.
>
>I don't remember who the bowler was, but the first six was over
>mid-wicket. The crowd was up and cheering. The next ball was hit for a
>six over long-on. And the commentator screams over the voice of the
>crowd, "He seems to be getting closer to us!"
>
>The commentary box was over the far sightscreen ( the one facing
>Gavaskar).
>
>The next ball was hit for a six right over the sightscreen just to the
>right of the commentary box. The commentators are getting jittery ;-)
>They sit up in their chairs ;-)
>
>The next ball is again hoisted in much the same vein towards the
>sightscreen. The commentators are hysterical. They're getting ready to
>leap out when theysee the ball landing just inside the ropes. Whew!
>Four anyway.
>
>The next ball is leg-glanced for a four around the square-leg region.
>The last ball is hit for a single and Gavaskar retains strike.
>
>This was the match when Chetan Sharma got a hattrick and I frightened my
>l'il nephew when I let out an earth-shattering shout of joy ;-)
>
>--
>
>Rajesh Raman
>
>--
>
The bowler was chatfield.
 
srinivas.K
From: cen466p@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (S. Parthasarhathy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: WI-AUS, Test IV, Adelaide, D1 Stumps, WI I: 252(a.o), AUS I: 2 - 1
Date: 23 Jan 93 08:41:50 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Chem. Engg., Monash University, Australia

TEST 4, Adelaide Oval, Day 1 stumps

WI won the toss and elected to bat on a good batting track. Riche was
justified with the opening partnership amassed 86 before Simmons was
dismissed (caught off a balooned leading edge) by SWaugh.

simmons     c m.hughes b s.waugh      45  (simple catch)
richardson  lbw        b hughes        2
haynes      st. healy  b may          46  (good work by healy)
arthurton   c s waugh  b may           0  (simple catch)
hooper      c healy    b hughes        2  (simple catch)
lara        c healy    b mcdermott    52  (good catch diving to his left
                                           inches off the ground)
bishop      c m waugh  b hughes       13
ambrose     c healy    b hughes        0  (ambrose beaten by the lift)
benjamin               b m waugh      15  (between bat and pad)
walsh       lbw        b hughes        5  (yorker?)
murray      n.o                       49  (sensible batting)
extras     (11 lb, 12 nb)             23
total    67.3 overs                  252 (allout)

bowling: mcdermott 16-1-85-1, m hughes  21.3-3-64-5, s. waugh 13-4-37-1
         may 14-1-41-2, warne 2-0-11-0, m waugh 1-0-3-1

just before lunch, wi lost the skipper (99 for 2). just after lunch,
they lost haynes (stumped off missed full toss), artherton, to a silly
shot (attempted cover drive without getting to the ball and lack of foot
work), hooper to fishing outside the offstump. the score was a
precarious 134-5. then lara and murray consolidated their innings. once
lara is out (just after a rain interreption), the end was inevitable.
but still murray with the company of bishop and benjamin, helped WI to a
score of 252. but a lot less given the good start they got. aussies
bowled really well, m hughes, tim may (offie) and steve waugh in
particuler. because of wet ball, spinners tim may and shane warne did
not bowl, after the rain interreption.

AUS innings:

m. taylor   c hooper   b bishop        1    (low catch, ABC commentary)
d. boon   n.o                          0?
j. langer n.o                          0?
extras                                 ?
total                                  2 for 1

bowling: ambrose 3.?-2-1-0, bishop 3-3-0-1

justin langer is a LH? batsman from western australia making his debut for
australia. he has replaced injured damien martyn.

bad light stopped play.  56 min of play lost during rain interruption
and some time due to the bad light towards the end.  
-- 

Parthasarathy
Chemical Engg
Monash Uni
From: diwadkva@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu) (Vaibhav A. Diwadkar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Short pitched bowling at Adelaide ...
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:51:00 GMT
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In article <farrell.728098729@coral>, farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au 
(John Farrell) writes...
> 
>  Yes, it is a silly rule. *All* balls over shoulder height should be no
>balls. If a bowler can't intimidate a batsman by bowling at his chest or his
>elbow, then the bowler is lacking technique.
> 
>Friendless

	- After watching the last three hours of play at Adelaide yesterday,
	it seems increasingly unlikely that the new bouncer rule has 
	made the pitch a "safer" home for batsmen.  Ambrose was truly
	breathing fire yesterday and the barrage of balls bowled to 
	the rib cage was quite something.  His ball to remove Border
	was unbelievable.  I noticed only a handful of balls being 
	noballed for violating the bouncer rule.  All the other stuff
	was short, brutal but most importantly "legal".  Incidently,
	the short stuff was not working toward the end, with May and
	Mcdermott displaying remarkable fortitude under fire and the 
	Windies bowlers tiring.   Waqar-esque yorkers seemed in order,
	but none were forthcoming.

	- In short :-), great bowlers don't need "legal" bouncers to
	sniff out the batsmen and in the long run, bowlers may
	"tune" their length to allow them to bowl balls which are 
	more effective than the over the shoulder stuff.

	- BTW, what an unbelievable finish in Adelaide.  A great 
	batting performance from Tim May (a #10 batsman no less)
	and remarkable bowling from Ambrose.  One of the great tests
	in cricketing history.

					- Regards, - Vaibhav.
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From: axeman@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (Samir Chopra)
Subject: Worst Test debut (was Re: Leading Test Averages.)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:58:15 GMT

In article <93022.183503U17868@uicvm.uic.edu> <U17868@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.170224.18686@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>,
>axeman@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (Samir Chopra) says:
>>
>>that way. If you take a look at Imrans figures for the series of 1982-83,
>>I think (this is from memory), Imran was good at coming back and quickly
>>getting rid of Doshi and Maninder to wipe up the tail. I find it hard

>Maninder did not play in the 82-83 series.

Sorry chief, Maninder did play. In fact, Maninder's debut test match was
probably the worst initiation into test cricket anyone could have ever
had; Mani gave away over 100 runs, didn't take a wicket and bagged a
pair. If anyone has a Wisden, please post these figures. They make
for pretty depressing reading.

Incidentally, would anyone else like to post on the worst test debuts
of all time? Maybe we could restrict it to players that went
on to succeed. Graham Gooch comes to mind. Didn't he bag a pair against
Australia in the 1975 home series? I would have included Chris Smith
(lbw on first ball in test cricket) but he didn't really do
anything much of note later on.

Samir



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From: tprasad@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Trivikram Prasad)
Subject: Srikanth??
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ USA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:59:12 GMT

I just wanted to know.. Has Srikanth been permanently dropped from the Indian
side?
From: del@hawk.adied.oz.au (D Elson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: more news from the WACA
Date: 28 Jan 93 08:18:38 GMT
Organization: Australian Defence Industries


The weather here in Perth is warm and sunny.  Today was 34^C (93^F),
and there's more of the same on the way, at least until Sunday
or Monday.

Just thought you'd all like to know.  This will be one hell of a
test match, and should go down to the wire.  The pitch will be
as hard and fast as WACA pitches usually are.

Del
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From: axeman@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (Samir Chopra)
Subject: Re: Madan Lal
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:12:20 GMT

In article <C14434.GJK@newcastle.ac.uk> Dave.Alderson@newcastle.ac.uk (D. Alderson) writes:
>
>He is the professional for Felling C.C. who play in the Durham Senior League. 
>At the time Felling were in the Tyneside Senior League. After
>Madan came he turned them around playing wise and they proceeded to win that
>league five years out of six with Madan starring with both bat and ball. They
>were successful in their application to join the Durham Senior League (a higher
>standard than the Tyneside Senior) last year and in their first season almost
>won the championship, I think they finished 3rd, with Madan again being the
>star performer. Their used to be nothing better than a warm summer Saturday
>afternoon with a couple of pints of Stones watching him and Felling. A great
>cricketer and a very nice man.

I think those sentiments will be readily echoed by any fan of the
Delhi Ranji trophy team. Maddi always gave his best for Delhi 
and helped maintain the process (started by Bedi and the Amarnath
brothers) of shifting the balance of cricketing power away from
the West Zone towards the North. Delhi enjoyed great cricketing moments
with Maddi around. I, for one, will never tire of singing his praises.

Samir
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From: villalj@xanth.CS.ORST.EDU (John Villalovos)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Question about Blocking
Date: 28 Jan 1993 01:53:30 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University
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Here is an easy one for someone with a rulebook.  How is determined if someone
is blocking.  Does it matter how fast the ball is hit on whether or not someone
can block it.  The reason I am asking is because someone passed the ball over
the net and I jumped up with both hands and blocked it but didn't do a good
enough job and it continued over to my side of the net where I bumped it.
Some players thought that it wasn't a block because the other side didn't
spike it.  They ended up agreeing with me but I was wondering how you 
determine if someone is blocking or spiking the ball etc...

Later,
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From: mkrogers@unix.amherst.edu (Michael Rogers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Question about Blocking
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:53:11 GMT
Organization: Amherst College
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Anthony J. Bangrazi (bangrazi@ctron.com) wrote:
: Rule 8, Article 14: BLOCKING:
: Blocking is the action close to the net which intercepts the ball coming
: from the opponent's side by making contact with the ball before it crosses
: the net, as it crosses the net or immediately after it crosses the net. An
: attempt to block does not constitue a block unless the ball is contacted
: during the effort. A blocked ball is considered to have crossed the net.

Also according to the commentary on this rule, some part of the body
has to be above the net at some point during the attempt to block.
(There are more complicated considerations if the block is composite.)
There are no conditions on the speed of the ball.