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From: glewis@fws204.intel.com (Glenn M. Lewis ~)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Impulse FORM TDDD is crummy. was: IFF 3D standard? (DR3D?)
Date: 22 Jul 92 00:40:45 GMT
	<1992Jul21.055017.2772@wam.umd.edu> <tKR-ft_@engin.umich.edu>
Organization: ICD, Intel Corporation, Folsom, CA
In-reply-to: chymes@uri.csmil.umich.edu's message of 21 Jul 92 16:45:04 GMT

>>>>> On 21 Jul 92 16:45:04 GMT, chymes@uri.csmil.umich.edu (Charles Hymes) said:

Charles> Impulse's FORM TDDD is a crummy IFF is I heartily incourage is
Charles> upgrading. My promlem with it is that while it is a LEAGL IFF
Charles> it is a NON-STANDARD IFF. It is non-standard to the point that
Charles> parseiff.library is won't read any of its chunks. The problem
Charles> is that it has sub-chunks and sub-sub chunks, without any of
Charles> the encapulating FORMs LISTs or PROPs. TDDD's look like this:

Charles> [description of how it is and how it should be deleted...]

	This may be quite true.

	Fortunately, if one would like to read/write TDDD files, then
all a person needs to get is TTDDDLIB (aka T3DLIB) on hubcap.clemson.edu
[130.127.8.1] in the directory: pub/amiga/incoming/imagine/TTDDDLIB.

	This library includes a number of filters to convert TDDD into
Rayshade, OFF, NFF, Vort, MIF (FrameMaker), PostScript (isometric,
front, top, and right wireframe views), and coming soon: DXF.  There
also exists an "off2ttddd" converter... check archie for its location.

	But the thing that will be helpful to most people is a filter
called "readwrite" that can convert back and forth between TDDD and
Textual TDDD (TTDDD) formats.  I invented TTDDD as an ASCII equivalent
of TDDD, such that people can write converters to generate or parse
TTDDD easily, as well as create TTDDD files algorithmically, then
convert them into Imagine objects.  Helge Rasmussen wrote "igensurf"
which outputs TTDDD based on mathematical descriptions of parametric
surfaces.

	Anyway, this library will greatly assist programmers in parsing,
creating, and editing TDDD files.  This package is shareware, and
commercial use is not allowed without prior permission (which has
actually been violated in one instance already).

	Note that the T3DLIB executables for the Amiga were created with
GCC 2.0 for the Amiga, and for some reason, only work under version 2.04
of the Amiga operating system.  All the source is there, though, if you
wish to compile it with your own C compiler.

						-- Glenn Lewis
						(co-author of Essence)
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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: CDTV Native Developers
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:17:57 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany
Keywords: CDTV, cdtv.device

In article <1992Jul29.095305.10579@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> peteru@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU (Peter "Silicon Head" Urbanec) writes:
 >I was wondering if C= has something like CDTV Native Developers Toolkit.
 >I know that the Amiga version is very handy, but I haven't seen anything
 >like it for CDTV.

There are several Tools and Examples disks available for registrated
CDTV developers.

 >The only thing that I got from C= Australia was three photocopied bundles
 >of documentation. ie.: Licenses & Forms, General Articles and Technical
 >Articles. 

As I saw it, the docs have been updated and assembled together in a much
neater volume.

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From: davidm@NeoSoft.com (David Martin)
Subject: GP FAX Amiga Undocumented Errors
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:03:03 GMT
Keywords: GP,FAX,GPFAX,AMIGA,UNDOCUMN[DENTED,ERRORS

all:
  Does anyone know what error #82 and #84 mean after transmitting
faxes with GP FAX from a Supra modem to another FAX machine?
In this case a Xeros[Dx 7033.
David
PS Is there a comp.sys.amiga.telecom where I can cross post
this?

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Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 02:23:22 EST
From: ACPS1072@RYERSON <ACPS1072@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: creating LaserDisc Drivers

I have recently gotten a hold of a Pioneer LD-V6000A laserdisc player.
Does anyone out there have a driver for it?  It's slightly different from
the 6000.  Also where does one go to get info on writing drivers and code
to use existing drivers (that are packaged with AmigaVision)?

Please resond to the following address...  thanks in advance.
Derek Lang<<<<<    |
ACPS1072@Ryerson   |    "Get this clown trained.  I want him in the games
Toronto, ON        |     until he dies playing.  Acknowledge."
Canada             |                             - Master Control Program
From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: LockIBase race condition
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:35:40 PST
Organization: BBS

> I've written a small ScreenSwitch commodity to activate the first
> window on the next (or previous) screen.  This lets you switch
> screens without "clicking in", and avoids the annoying overhead of
> "AutoPoint"-type commodities.
 
I've found that the overhead of an autopoint routine can be kept
to a fraction of what the input.device uses anyway (near as I can
measure, which is not very well) by making it avoid checking which
window the mouse is over more often than ten times a second, rather
than every time it moves.  My modified DMouse (DRat) does this.
 
>         UnlockIBase(lock);
> 
>         ScreenToFront(); or ScreenToBack(); // <-- race
> 
> Now it's understandably unlikely that enough context switches are
> going to occur between the UnlockIBase() and the ScreenToFoo() call
> which allow the ScreenToFoo()'d screen to close. ...but it is
> _possible_.
> 
> I could Forbid()/Permit() the whole thing, but that seems generally
> unfriendly.
 
But it's what you gotta do, I bet.
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From: catapcnl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Chris Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Standard 2.0 File Requester Question
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 01:18:49 GMT

Distribution: World

In article <jbickers.0bw9@templar.actrix.gen.nz>  writes:
:Quoted from <1992Jul23.024410.13611@cs.rose-hulman.edu> by  
catapcnl@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Chris Lawrence):
:
:> :VERY powerful (I especially like the feature where you can use the arrow
:> :keys to select a file) and style guide conformant under 1.3 and 2.0
:
:> Only thing I don't like about RT is that there are no keyboard shortcuts  
:> (cursor-wise, that is) in the FR... Oh, well...
:
:    ReqTools 2.0 does let you "use the arrow keys to select a file",
:    just like ASL, except it looks much slicker.
:
:    It also supports A-C for Cancel, etc, underlining the appropriate
:    letters in each gadget.
:
:> Chris Lawrence
:--
:*** John Bickers, TAP, NZAmigaUG.        jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***

Cool.. I'll have to pick it up somehow!  Other than that minor peevee about  
keyboard support, I *love* reqtools.
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From: heinz@edohwg.UUCP (Heinz Wrobel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re:  WB2.04 distribution solution
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:40:43 GMT
Organization: Edotronik GmbH

In article <1992Jul23.013620.6738@tronsbox.xei.com> bleys@tronsbox.xei.com (Bill Cavanaugh) writes:
>Ah, it's so nice to see that knee-jerk nationalistic attacks are made
>by people everywhere!
>
>FYI, a couple of years back when I was on BIX, one of the most
>prolific writers of text and software there was Sebastiano Vigna, who
>was (through some method apparently not available in New Zealand)
>connecting from Milan, Italy.

Must have been a millionaire... ;-)
If I had to connect to BIX from germany, I probably had to sell my computer
;-) :-)

>Please excuse my Ameri-Eurocentrism!

You are excused. :-) :-)

> *	    Bill Cavanaugh	 bleys@tronsbox.xei.com 	 *

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From: engb@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Ben Eng)
Subject: Re: C Programmer's Editor of Choice?
Organization: Jet Penguin Lavatories
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:04:41 GMT

In <1992Jul23.191613.2338@sol.cs.wmich.edu> meshkin@sol.cs.wmich.edu (The Hidden) writes:

>>There's the Amiga version of GNU Emacs which does (almost) everything

>I agree!  It does everything but write the code for you, BUT it is very
>slow to start!  I downloaded that one, unpacked it, then spend the next
>minute staring in horror as it loaded gobs of data from my HD before giving
>me a nice standard emacs screen.

The most recent releases of the GNU Emacs port support dumping of its
internal Lisp representation.  That virtually elimates the long wait
for emacs to start up, it's as fast as reading in a 500K file now.

Ben
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From: epang@fraser.sfu.ca (Eugene Pang)
Subject: IDCMP flags fixed! (Re: GadToolsBox 1.3)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:38:16 GMT

rzsaj@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (Andreas Jung) writes:
>The problem with the IDCMP flags is known but you can use the intuition
>function ModifyIDCMP().

Here's a patch to the 37.111 sources which fixes the IDCMP flags bug.  GTB's
author transposed the args to setmem().  I'll try and come up with a binary
patch (for LPatch), if anyone's interested.

# This is a shell archive.  Remove anything before this line,
# then unpack it by saving it in a file and typing "sh file"
# Created Thu Jul 23 01:36:53 1992
#
# This archive contains:
#		patchfile
echo "Creating patchfile"
cat > patchfile <<"***EOF patchfile***"
--- /orig/genc.c	Sat Apr 18 16:48:52 1992
+++ genc.c	Thu Jul 23 01:33:47 1992
@@ -208,7 +208,7 @@
     if ( mode ) c = '!';
     else        c = '|';
 
-    setmem(( char * )&gc_Done[ 0 ], 0l, NUM_KINDS );
+    setmem(( char * )&gc_Done[ 0 ], NUM_KINDS, 0L );
 
     for ( eng = pw->pw_Gadgets.gl_First; eng->en_Next; eng = eng->en_Next ) {
         if ( NOT gc_Done[ eng->en_Kind ] ) {
***EOF patchfile***
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From: jrauti@cs.joensuu.fi (Juhani Rautiainen)
Subject: Re: 2.04 Includes
Organization: University of Joensuu
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:22:14 GMT

peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:

>All european Amiga programmers may from now on order any article from CATS'
>official material list directly in Germany. CATS Europe has established a
>european-wide service via Hirsch & Wolf in Germany. 

>Here's the address:
>                Hirsch & Wolf oHG
>                Attn: Hans-Helmut Hirsch
>                Mittelstr. 33
>                5450 Neuwied 1
>                Germany

>                Fax: ++49-2631-23878
>                Tel: ++49-2631-24485
>                UUCP: cbmger!carla!hhhirsch

Does anyone know what the prices are? I tried to send mail to UUCP
address, but no answer so far (1 month gone). 

>-- 
>Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...
>Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
>				   or  peterk@public.sub.org
	Thanks,
	-Juhani Rautiainen	jrauti@cs.joensuu.fi
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From: denson@sdd.hp.com (Craig Denson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs vs. the world . . . (was Re: C Programmer's Editor of Choice?)
Date: 24 Jul 1992 13:51:28 -0700
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdln.sdd.hp.com

In article <1992Jul24.141245.18706@syma.sussex.ac.uk> mpue2@syma.sussex.ac.uk (James E. Talbut) writes:

>> Oh, boy.  An GNU Emacs vs. the world thread . . .

  is there anything out there other than emacs??

>1) How do I dump it?
  this is don't know - it's a non-issue on a 50Mhz 030 - and once you get
gnuserv working. investigate gnuclient.

>2) How do I get it to not EVER do backups?

  (setq make-backup-files nil) ; in your .emacs file
; incidentally, backup files have saved my .. sanity .. more than once.

>3) How do I get it to NEVER do autosave?

   (setq auto-save-default nil) ; also in your .emacs file
; however auto-save is a good thing, not a bad one. if it seems to
; frequent, try upping the character count between saves

(setq auto-save-interval 1000) ; or even bigger.

>Another question:
>When I exit emacs it tries to write something to my SYS: what? and why?

 if gnuserv is running this may be where its socket is (how does this
work on the amiga, anyway?) 

Some hints:
 work through the tutorial, 'Meta-?-i' will pop you into info mode and
you can do the tutorial.

 edit your .emacs file and use 'Meta-?-v' while the cursor is on a
variable name or 'Meta-?-f' while it's on a function name.

e.g. for auto-save-default, you get:
Documentation:
*t says by default do auto-saving of every file-visiting buffer.

craig 
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From: vailm00@DMI.USherb.CA (MARC VAILLANCOURT)
Subject: Re: Standard 2.0 File Requester Question
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- departement de Mathematiques et d'Informatique
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:59:21 GMT

-> Why is this file requester (ASL is I think the name) so slow 
-> getting directories?  I want to use it in a program but I hate how 
-> slow it is.  Is there another one that looks like it (I like the 
-> look and feel of 2.0) but gets faster directory listings.  I know 
-> it can be done because I have seen some *amazingly* fast file 
-> requestors in my time
 
   Be patient, WB 2.1's ASL is at least a magnitude faster. If you can't
wait, use another requester like MFR that can wedge ASL and use it instead
while retaining complete compatibility...

	Marc
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: WorkBench 2.04 - bug, or feature?
Date: 22 Jul 92 09:56:19 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany
Keywords: AmigaDOS 2.04

In article <1992Jul21.081047.677@leela.cs.orst.edu> ridgwad@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Dean Ridgway) writes:
>While working on my latest computer club disk (now in a new Workbench 2.04
>format) I noticed that when you resize or reposition a drawer's window and
>try to save that information back into the .INFO file that only the resizing
>information is saved.  

How do you save the information? If you do it with the standard way via
the Snapshot menu item, it has to work, like it did under older OS'es.
But later on you mentioned also the Information window. This has nothing
to do at all with the position saving of a drawer. (Though certain
programs like Clock allow Tool Types setting window coords.)

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From: forgeas@swinjm.UUCP (Jean-Michel Forgeas)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Libraries Collection
Date: 28 Jul 92 11:19:41 GMT
Reply-To: cbmvax!cbmehq!cbmfra!swinjm!forgeas (Jean-Michel Forgeas)
Organization: The Software Winery
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 alpha rel2

In article <1992Jul24.085048.19671@bristol.ac.uk>, EthaStorm writes:

> I've put the file 'Lib-Collection1.lha' in the 'systems/amiga/incoming/dev'
> directory of WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU ( IP:- 128.252.135.4 )
> [...]
> COMMODIT.ZOO         commodities library package
> MATHTRAN.ZOO         Mathtrans !!!!!

Since these are C= libraries, if I was you I'd supect that there must be
a Copyright on them.
Did you ask C= to be sure that you don't risk anything by distributing
their libraries?

    Jean-Michel
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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: 2.04 Includes
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:40:25 GMT
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Jul27.105949.1143@arcetri.astro.it>, tribioli@arcetri.astro.it (Francesco Tribioli) writes:
> 
>  However, the problem is not principally in the $100 or $20 (I can still afford
> $100 one time in three years). The REAL problem is: "I CANNOT have a reasonable 
> assistance from C= in my country, so I cannot easily obtain this 2.04 includes".

The latter has nothing to do with the former. Yes, it's not so easy to get
the 2.04 includes in your country. BUT you can get them in Europe from a
well-reputated company that is authorized by Commodore:

All european Amiga programmers may from now on order any article from CATS'
official material list directly in Germany. CATS Europe has established a
european-wide service via Hirsch & Wolf in Germany. 

Here's the address:

                Hirsch & Wolf oHG
                Attn: Hans-Helmut Hirsch
                Mittelstr. 33
                5450 Neuwied 1
                Germany

                Fax: ++49-2631-23878
                Tel: ++49-2631-24485
                UUCP: cbmger!carla!hhhirsch


> The only way is to buy a new compiler with the new includes. 

This is not true.

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From: drw@panix.com (Douglas Williams)
Subject: Re: GNU Emacs vs. the world . . . (was Re: C Programmer's Editor of Choice?)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:57:11 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Jul24.141245.18706@syma.sussex.ac.uk> mpue2@syma.sussex.ac.uk (James E. Talbut) writes:
>
>1) How do I dump it?
Are you using version 1.25DG of the port?  (If not, you should get it.)
If so, emacs comes pre-dumped in the file etc/EMACS-DATA.  This file
is loaded automatically upon invocation.  It takes about 8 seconds to 
load - on a stock amiga - after being dumped.  For a description of re-
dumping, see the file amiga.doc.

>2) How do I get it to not EVER do backups?
Add `(setq make-backup-files nil)' to your .emacs file.

>3) How do I get it to NEVER do autosave?
Add `(setq auto-save-default nil)' to your .emacs file.

>When I exit emacs it tries to write something to my SYS: what? and why?
Not sure.  I don't think this is happening on my machine.  It may be saving
some context information.  You may want to examine the variables defined 
in saveconf.el.

Question:
For anyone else using v1.25 on a stock amiga: Does amiga-set-geometry
still work for you?  It causes emacs to freeze after expanding the window
on my machine, so I have to resize the window manually each time I invoke
the editor.  It worked fine with 1.24, by the way.


-- 
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From: jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid)
Subject: SAS phone #
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:29:27 GMT

What is it?  I'm a registered user in need of support, but I have no idea
what this "Customer Service Guide" mentioned in the docs is.

-- Jon  (j-reid@uiuc.edu)
From: johnl@SDFSERV.hac.com (John Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re:  2.04 Includes
Date: 28 Jul 92 08:51:51 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company, El Segundo, CA

In article <hribnak.05x1@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca> hribnak@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Jim Hribnak) writes:
>If its only $20 then PLEASE post and address so some of us can get the updated
>2.04 includes!

Ask, and thou shall receive...

The following is an edit copy of a previously posted article.


---------------------Abridged Article Follows

Article 14691 of comp.sys.amiga.misc:
From: carolyn@cbmvax.commodore.com (Carolyn Scheppner - CATS)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: ** Wanted: 2.04 Include files **
Date: 19 Mar 92 15:33:26 GMT
Reply-To: carolyn@cbmvax.commodore.com (Carolyn Scheppner - CATS)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <29455@cbmvax.commodore.com> farren@cbmvax.commodore.com (Mike Farren) writes:
>nin15b48@merrimack.edu writes:
>> 
>>Where can I get the include files (assembly & C versions) for 2.04, without
>>buying an assembler or compiler?
>

In the following list, this is what you want:

AmigaDOS V2.0 Native Developer Update, P/N:NATDEV20	    $20.00

This has Includes, Autodocs, Software Toolkit II (debugging tools)
and 2.0 and Amigamail Example code.


--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Technical Information List for Non-Registered Developers and Users

Listed below are the materials available through Department C of
Commodore Business Machines, Inc., 1200 Wilson Drive, West Chester, PA,
19380.  Send check or money order only (no credit card orders) to
Department C at the above address.  These materials are shipped from
the new warehouse location in Mechanicsburg, PA.

Shipping and handling for USA is $3.00.  Shipping and handling for
Canada and Europe (via Air) is from $5.00 to $15.00 depending on weight
of shipment.

Add local state sales tax for the following states:  Pennsylvania, Virginia,
California, Tennessee and Illinois.

Allow 4-6 weeks for delivery.
[...Catalog Deleted...]

---------------------End Abridged Article

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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The above opinions are those of the user and not of those of this machine.
From: strat@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: C Programmer's Editor of Choice?
Date: 23 Jul 1992 10:01:07 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

mlelstv@speckled.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:

>Emacs opponents unite :-) There must be something better than
>Eight Megabytes And Continously Swapping editors.. :-)

Lets see here:

1.System2.0> avail
Type  Available    In-Use   Maximum   Largest
chip    1858712    237416   2096128   1856952
fast   15414456    838472  16252928  14886936
total  17273168   1075888  18349056  14886936
1.System2.0> emacs
1.System2.0> avail
Type  Available    In-Use   Maximum   Largest
chip    1858712    237416   2096128   1856952
fast   14822192   1430736  16252928  14671904
total  16680904   1668152  18349056  14671904
1.System2.0> eval 166852 - 1075888
592264
1.System2.0>

Nope!  Only half a meg!  ;-)

Stratocaster
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