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From: parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar)
Subject: Re: The Pankaj Udhas fiasco!
Keywords: Udhas crap
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:24:56 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.232218.3862@epas.toronto.edu> kippenj@epas.utoronto.ca (J. Kippen) writes:
>I would encourage all connoisseurs to kick out this Pankaj Udhas
>nonsense from the classical bulletin.  Keep it up!
>
>My good friend Art Levine passed on to me recently a CD by this
>character Pankaj Udhas.  It is called "NEVER BEFORE -- 26 non-stop
>Pankaj Udhas ghazals".  After cringing through about one-and-a-half
>non-stoppers, my only comment was, and ever shall be
>
>"PLEASE -- NEVER AGAIN!"
>
>Cringingly yours,
>
>Pankaj Kippen

I don't quite understand what your problem (and Naimpalli's and 
other cringers') is. If it is with Pankaj Udhas, then, as my friend
John Campana says, "De gustibus non disputandum est".  
If, however, it is with ghazals, then I have some news for you.
Ghazals, in general, DO come under the umbrella of classical music. So
do thumris, tappas and such like. I would support discussions of these
forms with as much enthusiasm as have for the khayals. If you aren't
too fond of ghazals, tappas and thumris, simply hit the 'n` key and
all will be well.
And while I have as much (or even more) dislike for Pankaj Udhas's
music, my operating system can handle a notice of his concert without
crashing:-)

Rajan Parrikar
============== 
email: parrikar@mimicad.colorado.edu
       parrikar@spot.colorado.edu
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From: harsh@wam.umd.edu (R. P. Harshavardhan)
Subject: Raga Zilaf
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:17:23 GMT

Can someone tell me the Aaroha and Avaroha of Raga Zilaf ?
I Had heard a composition by Pt jasaraj Long ago and feel that
the Aaaroha Avaroha are as follows :

  Sa Ga Ma(Sudh) Pa Dha Saa
  Sa Dha Pa Ma Ga Sa   (All Sudh)
         
Is this right ? Rajan , any clue ?

Harsh
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From: murthy@ssdss3.asl.dl.nec.com (Vasudev Murthy)
Subject: Re: The Pankaj Udhas fiasco!
Keywords: Udhas crap
Organization: NEC America, Inc Irving TX
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:18:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.045131.5795@epas.toronto.edu> kippenj@epas.utoronto.ca (J. Kippen) writes:
>In article <1992Nov19.182456.5414@colorado.edu> parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov18.232218.3862@epas.toronto.edu> kippenj@epas.utoronto.ca (J. Kippen) writes:
>>>I would encourage all connoisseurs to kick out this Pankaj Udhas
>>>nonsense from the classical bulletin.  Keep it up!
>>>
>>>My good friend Art Levine passed on to me recently a CD by this
>>>character Pankaj Udhas.  It is called "NEVER BEFORE -- 26 non-stop
>>>Pankaj Udhas ghazals".  After cringing through about one-and-a-half
>>>non-stoppers, my only comment was, and ever shall be
>>>
>>>"PLEASE -- NEVER AGAIN!"
>>>
>>>Cringingly yours,
>>>
>>>Pankaj Kippen
>>
>>I don't quite understand what your problem (and Naimpalli's and 
>>other cringers') is. If it is with Pankaj Udhas, then, as my friend
>>John Campana says, "De gustibus non disputandum est".  
>>If, however, it is with ghazals, then I have some news for you.
>>Ghazals, in general, DO come under the umbrella of classical music. So
>>do thumris, tappas and such like. I would support discussions of these
>>forms with as much enthusiasm as have for the khayals. If you aren't
>>too fond of ghazals, tappas and thumris, simply hit the 'n` key and
>>all will be well.
>>And while I have as much (or even more) dislike for Pankaj Udhas's
>>music, my operating system can handle a notice of his concert without
>>crashing:-)
>
>Come on.  You can't start pinning a dislike of ghazals on me.  I have
>made my own studies of them, have even tried singing them, have
>accompanied them, and admire many who do perform them.  But I'm afraid
>Pankaj Udhas is someone who sends my personal tolerance level
>crashing.  Now, even you can't claim that this "fiasco" has had
>anything to do with discussing ghazal as a genre.  In my view that
>stuff should not be on the classical net.
>
>Jim
>

I don't like Pankaj Udhas' music at all. But listening
to some of Mehdi Hassan's old recordings may illustrate
the classical element very well indeed.

If I'm not mistaken, Mehdi Hassan was an AIR artiste (Delhi) who
sang Khayals. He then moved to Pakistan in the 50s and popularized
Ghazals. If this is not correct, my apologies.

Vasudev


Vasudev

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From: parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar)
Subject: Re: Raga Zilaf
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:15:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.041723.8638@wam.umd.edu> harsh@wam.umd.edu (R. P. Harshavardhan) writes:
>Can someone tell me the Aaroha and Avaroha of Raga Zilaf ?
>I Had heard a composition by Pt jasaraj Long ago and feel that
>the Aaaroha Avaroha are as follows :
>
>  Sa Ga Ma(Sudh) Pa Dha Saa
>  Sa Dha Pa Ma Ga Sa   (All Sudh)
>         
>Is this right ? Rajan , any clue ?

None whatsoever.  Ramesh-ji(Gangolli), John-Sahib(Campana), any clue?

Rajan [wants to know what Raga Zilaf is all about] Parrikar
===========================================================
email: parrikar@mimicad.colorado.edu


>
>Harsh


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From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: ghazals and Indian Classical Music
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 16:36:30 GMT

I agree Ghazal, Thumri and the like can be (and are) a part of
the Classical repetoire. Look at Shobha Gurtu, Nirmala Devi,
Begum Akhtar, etc.. But we are not talking about them.

These days ghazals are not what they used to be and ghazal singers
(for the most part) not what they used to be. The lyrics are often
'cheap', the rhythms are pop-ish, and the classical nature of
ghazals forgotten. If you are lucky the ghazal singer will perform
some token sargams (mugged up of course - don't even think of 
improvisation) in one or two songs during the course of the concert.

If Shobha Gurtu is doing a ghazal concert, please cross-post
to rmic though !
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Ajrara gharana, Ludicrous pankaj Udhas debate
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: rec.music.indian.classical
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 16:42:31 GMT

Thanks for the support Corvin !
From: sl9z5@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Raaga difference & identification.
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:03:18 MDT
Organization: Utah State University


Hai,
	Can anyone post the difference in arohanam/avarohanam between the
raagams ShanmukhaPriya and Simmendhra Madhyamam? I find that the difference
is too narrow. 

	Sometime back, someone had enquired about the raagam of the Tamil
film song "Andhi Mazhai Pozhigiradhu" from "Raaja Paarvai". I could see
no response to it. I am too at dark and would like to know the raagam.
Could someone post it?

Seetharaman Murali,
Utah State Uty,
Logan, UT - 84322.

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: muthu@mecad.uta.edu (S.N. Muthukrishnan)
Subject: How to start a SPICMACAY chapter at your school!
Reply-To: muthu@mecad.uta.edu
Organization: University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:13:21 GMT

Here we go. Please do not complain. People have other
priorities too.

Step 1: Collect atleast the minimum number of signatures required
        to start a student organization at your school.

Step 2: Go over to the place (I don't where you need to go) where
        you can request forms required to start a new organization.

Step 3: Depending on whether office bearers are required, elect a
        group of office bearers. The most common practice for SPICMACAY
        is to have co-ordinators. These co-ordinators will keep in
        touch with their neighbouring chapters, the region co-ordinator
        and with the parent chapter.

Step 4: Name the organization as SPICMACAY. Inform the parent chapter
        by sending an e-mail to
   
                  spic_macay.core@marc.com

Step 5: Keep in constant touch with other chapters. You will obtain
        more information once you start the chapter. 

Hope this helps. Good luck and welcome to the world of SPICMACAY!

Regards,

Muthukrishnan 


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From: kamala@npac.syr.edu (Kamala Anupindi)
Subject: For info. on starting SPICMACAY chapters
Organization: Northeast Parallel Architectures Center at Syracuse University (NPAC)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 21:56:51 EST

Please contact me at    kamala@npac.syr.edu.
I'll mail the required info to anyone who requests for it.

Kamala Anupindi
(Spicmacay Syracuse)
From: R2HMV@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Hindustani equivalent of Revathi
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:35:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: VM1.168A1B12D.R2HMV
Organization: The University of Akron

Hi,
 
Can someone tell me what is the equivalent Hindustani raga for 'Revathi'
in Carnatic music ??
 
Thanks,
 
Hari        (r2hmv@vm1.cc.uakron.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: uds@usha.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju)
Subject: ......  Music India CDs ........
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:34:16 GMT


I ordered 4 CDs from Music  India in the 1st week of july.  They arrived
two days ago.  Others ahving similar problems might find this information
useful.  Ofcourse, my check was cashed by july 25th...!!  The ad stated that
the CDs would be sent in 3 weeks!

You may have also noticed, that IT no longer carries ads for these CDs, as
explicitly as it did, in the much earlier issues...


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Reputed Tabla dealers in India ?
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 16:21:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.154933.23468@alf.uib.no>, s312@brems.ii.uib.no (Permjit Bhamra) writes:
|> 
|> I was wondering if anybody could tell me of any good tabla dealers in
|> India, preferably in New Delhi. Also I would appreciate name of the make.
|> The best tablas please!

In Bombay, there are several good tabla makers. Swamy Vadya Kendra
is a maker who sells out of his shop in Daadar (near Plaza cinema).
Vishnu, also has excellent tablas but they are a bit pricey.
Haribhau Vishwanath is a music store near the Dadar train station
that sells Vishnu's tablas.

In New Delhi, I have heard of Rikki Ram but have no idea as to
quality. All the tabla makers have good and bad tablas in stock.
If you know how to select a tabla fine, but otherwise take someone
who is knowledgable (a musician, preferrably a tabla player) with
you so you get a good pair.
From: cco.caltech.edu!vidya (Vidyasankar Sundaresan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
Subject: Re: Raaga difference & identification.
Date: 24 Nov 1992 01:25:33 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: piglet.caltech.edu
Originator: vidya@piglet

In article <1992Nov23.110318.61188@cc.usu.edu> sl9z5@cc.usu.edu writes:
- 
- Hai,
- 	Can anyone post the difference in arohanam/avarohanam between the
- raagams ShanmukhaPriya and Simmendhra Madhyamam? I find that the  
difference
- is too narrow. 

Shanmukhapriya and Simhendramadhyamam differ only in their Nishada.  
Shanmukhapriya uses the Kaisiki Nishada while Simhendramadhyamam uses  
Kakali Nishada. They are consecutive ragas in the melakarta scheme (Nos.  
56 and 57). 

S.Vidyasankar
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: jcampana@epas.utoronto.ca (John Campana)
Subject: Re: ghazals and Indian Classical Music
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:54:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.163630.14678@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>I agree Ghazal, Thumri and the like can be (and are) a part of
>the Classical repetoire. Look at Shobha Gurtu, Nirmala Devi,
>Begum Akhtar, etc.. But we are not talking about them.
>
>These days ghazals are not what they used to be and ghazal singers
>(for the most part) not what they used to be. The lyrics are often
>'cheap', the rhythms are pop-ish, and the classical nature of
>ghazals forgotten. If you are lucky the ghazal singer will perform
>some token sargams (mugged up of course - don't even think of 
>improvisation) in one or two songs during the course of the concert.
>
>If Shobha Gurtu is doing a ghazal concert, please cross-post
>to rmic though !


Right on Shiv! Has anyone else ever heard Vilayat or Amir Khan Sahib
(really!) sing a ghazal? or for that matter Bade Ghulam's brother? You
can post news like that on RMIC any time.

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical,rec.music.indian.misc
From: divaka@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Ajay Divakaran)
Subject: New source for Indian Music CDs
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:52:02 GMT

Dear Folks,
                   Here is another source of Indian CDs. In my opinion,
this company seems to have the largest selection of CDs covering
everything from Bhimsen Joshi to Bhangra. The prices look quite 
attractive. My experience with this company has been good so far.
                     V.U. Art & Music
                     1593 Central Avenue, Suite 222
                     Albany NY 12205
                     Tel-(518)-274-7895
       Their catalog is free and quite comprehensive. 
                     Cheers
                                                          ajay
p.s. I wish we had a FAQ server that we could update every now
     and then with info. about records books etc. 
       
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From: jmitra@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joydeep Mitra)
Subject: CHITRA VISHWESWARAN: SUNDAY NOV 29,'92: @ 4:00PM (NY) FREE.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:55:05 GMT


Hi everyone:

We have recently set up a New York City chapter of SPIC-MACAY and
our first program under this banner is a Bharatanatyam dance recital by 
'Kalaimamani' Ms. Chitra Visweswaran. 

The Organizing Committee.

---------------------------------------------------------------------
                                                               
                              SPIC-MACAY

Society for Promotion of Indian Classical Music and Culture Amongst Youth
            
                       New York, N.Y.Chapter

                              Presents

                    A Grand Bharatanatyam Recital
(with live orchestra)

                                  by

                   'Kalaimamani' Chitra Visweswaran

              on Sunday, November 29, 1992, at 4.00 p.m.

                        at The Robbins Auditorium
                   Albert Einstein College of Medicine
                        1300 Morris Park Avenue
                          Bronx, N.Y.10461

   FREE ADMISSION.

For further information, please contact:

    914 793 4029      914 968 0708      212 829 7081
    914 793 6685      718 885 2405
    718 518 8096      spic-macay@aecom.yu.edu

Please send contributions to:

SPIC-MACAY,
c/o Joydeep Mitra,
AECOM, CHANIN 504, DBC,
1300 Morris Park Avenue,
Bronx, N.Y. 10461.

Directions to reach The Robbins Auditorium:

>From Manhattan & Brooklyn: FDR Drive to Triborough bridge to Bruckner
Blvd.; Bronx River Pkwy north; Exit at Pelham Pkwy east; Right into Svc Rd.
after Williamsbridge Rd; Rt at Eastchester to Morris Park Avenue.

>From Queens: Whitestone Bridge to Hutchinson River Pkwy; Pelham Pkwy
west; Left at Eastchester Road.  OR Throggs Neck Bridge; New England
Thruway north; Pelham Pkwy west; Left at Eastchester Rd.

>From Upstate and Lower Westchester: New York Thruway; Tappenzee
Bridge; Cross Westchester Expwy. to Sprainbrook Pkwy; Bronx River Pkwy
south; Exit Pelham Pkwy east OR Saw Mill Pkwy; Cross County Pkwy; 
Bronx River Pkwy south.

>Subway: 6 Train to Westchester Sq. and either take the bus Bx31 or Bx21,
or walk for 14 minutes.
>Express Bus from Manhattan: New York Bus Service : Morris Park Avenue
Bus from Madison Avenue & 24th,36-37th,44-45th,52-52nd,59-60th and
3rd Ave&87th Streets. Fare is $3.75 Exact change.
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: sriram@IASTATE.EDU 
Subject: Raga identification 
Reply-To: sriram@IASTATE.EDU
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:26:46 GMT

Hi. Could someone tell me on what raga the following song is based. I've trying
for a longtime to identify it (without any success). I'll probably curse myself
for not being able to do so, because it seems so familiar.

"andhi mazhai pozhigiradhu, vovvoru thuliyilum von mugam therihiradhu"
It is from the movie "Raja Parvai" I believe.

Thanks in advance.

Sriram

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: srp@watson.ibm.com (Sriram Padmanabhan)
Subject: Concert announcement (Des Moines, Iowa)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:59:48 GMT
Distribution: na
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J Watson Research Center


I am posting this for a friend. Please direct questions to the address
given below.  --sriram

---------------------------------------------------------

From: HK1471R@ACAD.DRAKE.EDU
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		DRAKE UNIVERSITY SCHOOL OF FINE ARTS

				presents

		SHASHANK SUBRAMANIAM- FLUTE
		M. A. SUNDARESWARAN - VIOLIN
		MANNARGUDI A. EASWARAN - MRIDANGAM

	on Thursday, November 19,1992 at the Hall of Performing Arts at 8:00 PM.
Directions: You can get close to Drake University by getting onto I-235 from
either I-80 or I-35. Going West on I-235, take the Cottage Grove exit and turn
North on 25th street and go past University and Carpenter Avenues.  There is
a parking lot to the right where you can park and the hall is to your left.
If you are approaching from the I-235 East, take the 35th street exit in
Des Moines(NOT in WEST DES MOINES).  Turn right(North) at the exit and go upto
University Avenue and go East on it. Get to 25th Street and go North and follow
above directions.  THe roads are laid out in a rectangular cartesian grid, so
it should be dificult to get lost, and easy to find your way even if lost.

THIS IS FOR PEOPLE WITHIN DRIVING DISTANCE OF DES MOINES WHO ARE INTERESTED
IN GETTING TO THE CONCERT.  SORRY FOR THE LAST MINUTE POSTING!

Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: rks5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Rajesh K Sah)
Subject: SPIC-MACAY, Columbia University: Inagural Concert by Dr. L. Subramaniam
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:17:53 GMT

			 S P I C - M A C A Y

		   at Columbia University presents

      An evening of Indian Classical Music by the violin maestro


			  Dr. L. Subramaniam



				  on

		 20th of November  1992, at 7:00 p.m.

				  at

		   Davis Hall, International House
       500 Riverside Drive, New York City (Manhattan), NY 10027


 		(SPIC-MACAY concerts are FREE for all)

    For further information, call (212)-866-1158 or (212)-749-9621

Directions for getting to the venue of the concert:

By Subway:

Take the train # 1 or the #9 and get off at the Columbia University
stop, i.e. 116th Street which leaves you on Broadway. Crossing
Broadway to Riverside Drive, walk north (the street numbers keep
increasing!)  until you come to 500 Riverside Drive.




Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: pjn+@cs.cmu.edu (P J Narayanan)
Subject: Re: Raga Zilaf
Followup-To: rec.music.indian.classical
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:06:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.181547.24640@colorado.edu> parrikar@csn.org (Rajan Parrikar) writes:
>In article <1992Nov23.041723.8638@wam.umd.edu> harsh@wam.umd.edu (R. P. Harshavardhan) writes:
>>Can someone tell me the Aaroha and Avaroha of Raga Zilaf ?
>>I Had heard a composition by Pt jasaraj Long ago and feel that
>>the Aaaroha Avaroha are as follows :
>>
>>  Sa Ga Ma(Sudh) Pa Dha Saa
>>  Sa Dha Pa Ma Ga Sa   (All Sudh)
>None whatsoever.  Ramesh-ji(Gangolli), John-Sahib(Campana), any clue?

There is a Carnatic raga with the arohan/avarohans that Harsh suspects
raga Zilaf of. It is called Nad(g)aswaravali. A derivative of
Sankarabharanam, with S G M P D S and S D P M G S.

Seems this is an old raga as even Saint Tyagaraja has a composition
in it (Sreepathe nee padachintanamu).

PJN

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Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: jcampana@epas.utoronto.ca (John Campana)
Subject: Re: Hindustani equivalent of Revathi
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:36:56 GMT

In article <168A1B12D.R2HMV@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> R2HMV@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU writes:
>Hi,
> 
>Can someone tell me what is the equivalent Hindustani raga for 'Revathi'
>in Carnatic music ??
> 
>Thanks,
> 
>Hari        (r2hmv@vm1.cc.uakron.edu)

In Hindustani music there is a rag called Rewati or Rewati Kanada. It
has no resemblance to Carnatic Rewati which is similar to Northern
Bairagi: S r m P n S' S' n P m r S. Hindustani Rewati omits the ga and
ni in the aroh: S R m P, m P D, P D m P S'/ S' D n P m P, g-m R S. It
belongs to Kafi thath. Pakads: R m P D m P and the char. Kanada
phrases: S' D (shuddh) n P, m P g- m R- S.

Legend: lower case = komal swaras. Upper case (except for madhyam
which would be tivra)= shuddh swaras.

John Campana
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: jcampana@epas.utoronto.ca (John Campana)
Subject: Re: Raga Zilaf
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:46:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.041723.8638@wam.umd.edu> harsh@wam.umd.edu (R. P. Harshavardhan) writes:
>Can someone tell me the Aaroha and Avaroha of Raga Zilaf ?
>I Had heard a composition by Pt jasaraj Long ago and feel that
>the Aaaroha Avaroha are as follows :
>
>  Sa Ga Ma(Sudh) Pa Dha Saa
>  Sa Dha Pa Ma Ga Sa   (All Sudh)
>         
>Is this right ? Rajan , any clue ?
>
>Harsh

You are partly right on the notes except that, belonging to Bhairav
that, Zilaf would have a komal dha. There is another version I have
heard say, that is shadav-sampurna:it omits komal re only in avroh only.

John Campana
Newsgroups: rec.music.indian.classical
From: rajiv@me.uta.edu (Rajiv Chakravarti)
Subject: Re: Hindustani equivalent of Revathi
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:59:31 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.184325.1865@news2.cis.umn.edu> pavan@exa.cs.umn.edu (A.Pavan) writes:

   In article <168A1B12D.R2HMV@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>, R2HMV@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU writes:
   |> Hi,
   |>  
   |> Can someone tell me what is the equivalent Hindustani raga for 'Revathi'
   |> in Carnatic music ??
   |>  
   |> Thanks,
   |>  
   |> Hari        (r2hmv@vm1.cc.uakron.edu)

<>   That should be 'Bairagi' I believe.

-------------------

	Revathi in Hindustani is known as Bairagi-Bhairav, also called
just Bairagi, a pentatonic raaga. It is a late NIGHT melody in the 
Hindustani system.

Regards.

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Rajiv Chakravarti
Dept. of Aerospace Engineering
University of Texas at Arlington

rajiv@utacfd.uta.edu                             rajiv@me.uta.edu
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