HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Aliens Collectors Edition for $19.95...
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:33:56 GMT

In article <16NOV199209464525@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> kimnach@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH) writes:
>In article <1992Nov14.160928.1008@cbnewsc.cb.att.com>, cmv@looney.att.com (Craig M. Votava) writes...
>>the really nice thing about this set, is that it counts as 2 titles towards
>>your membership obligation!
>This is where I have problems with CHLDC.  Membership obligations are 
>fulfilled with purchases of $29.95 and up, and some of the expensive 
>boxed sets ($79.95 and up) count as TWO purchases toward fulfillment 
>of the agreement.  

Yea, this really bites my butt too. They tell me in advance that I have to buy
two things priced at over $29, and then they turn around and give credit for
two purchases if I buy something expensive. Oooh, I hate that. What's with
some of you people? Are you just looking for any lame excuse to rag on CH?
First we have a bunch of people complaining that it is not a good enough deal,
and now this guy complains that ... I don't know what to say here, what the
hell are you complaining about? They clearly state what the deal is. It's not
like they are hiding anything. What's your problem? Isn't better then 40% off
good enough for you?

>                  Take, for example, the "Thin Man" set of five disks: 
>if you were to buy them seperately at $30/each, the total would be $150 
>($14 more out of your pocket) PLUS you would have both fulfilled your 
>obligation and gotten three bonus dividends.  

Well, first off, except for the first one, none of the films are available
on LD. So if you were to buy them all at $30 each, that would be a miracle.
Secondly, the first one is available for $35, so even if they were all out,
we are talking about $175, instead of $125, a $50 difference. By the way,
where did you get that $14. Even using your numbers, the difference is $25.

>I wish that CHLDC would revamp the method of fulfillment and attainment of 
>divends based on every $25 or $30 spent.  But then, they'd lose their edge. 

Oh yea, 40% or more is just so unfair. Every month I feel cheated when I get
that flyer. Like this month, when they offered to sell me the first two Alien
films for $120 (that's 40% off) I just got so mad. What's your problem anyhow?
Do you insist that they make no profit at all?

>(See many of the previous posts on this topic by other members.)

I have yet to see a posting by a member that mentioned any real complaints
to the club. I have seen a number of complaints (mostly ill-advised) from
non members, but are there any unsatisfied members out there? And if so why?

Michael

-- 
Michael Kaufman | I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on
 kaufman        | fire off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams glitter in
  @eecs.nwu.edu | the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments will be
                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: qing@groo.msc.cornell.edu (Qing Sheng)
Subject: Will a US camera work in China?
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:48:52 GMT

Are video cameras produced specially for a type of video signal? I guess so, but do they have the capability to handle multiple standards. So if I bought a camera in the US (presumably set up to handle NTSC) could I use it in China whic uses PAL?

Qing
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: earle@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Greg Earle - Gainfully Unemployed)
Subject: Re: Panasonic Gaoo vs SuperFlat
Followup-To: rec.video
Keywords: Panasonic tv
Organization: Gainfully unemployed
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:35:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.192343.1408@bmerh85.bnr.ca> stud1b53@bnr.ca writes:
>  As I promised earlier, in response to the email I received
>regarding my test results, here is a qualitative and quantitative
>summary of what I found when comparing these three tvs.

And a fine summary it was.  Thanks.

>EQUIPMENT:
>---------
>
>  Television           Model No.       List Price (CDN $)
>  ---------------------------------------------------------
>  Sony XBR^2:          32XBR90S (?)    $2899 (monitor only)
>  Panasonic Gaoo:      PC-33XF20A      $1999
>  Panasonic SuperFlat: PC-33SF80A      $1749
>  ---------------------------------------------------------

Interesting; I have yet to see a Panasonic 33" model down here in Los Angeles
amongst the 6 stores I have been to while looking at TV sets in the last month
or so.  I've only seen the 31" models ...

>  There has been some confusion expressed to me as to the 
>difference between the Gaoo and SuperFlat.  According to
>the literature, the differences are as follows (applies to
>the 33" models only):
>
>  Gaoo                                SuperFlat
>  ------------------------------      ---------------
>  CCD Comb Filter                     Comb Filter
>  audio: 20 watts                     audio: 10 watts
>  ACTIVE DM speakers                  DOME II speakers
>  headphone jack                      no headphone jack
>  PIP                                 no PIP
>  Luminance Noise Reduction (YNR)     no YNR

Just as a comparison

CTP31XF20 (Gaoo) [US $1699.99 at Good Guys; $1669.00 at Circuit City]
SuperFlat/CCD Comb Filter/Dome sound

(I understand this was a '92 model)

CTP31XF30 (Gaoo) [US $1899.97 at Good Guys]
SuperFlat/Digital comb filter/2 tuner PIP

The new '93 XF30 seems to have changed the CCD Comb Filter to a Digital one,
and they added the 2-tuner PIP.

There's also

CTP3180SF (SuperFlat) [$1299.99 at Good Guys; $1169.97 at FedCo]
SuperFlat/Dome sound

CTP3284SF (SuperFlat) [$1349.97 at FedCo]
[I don't really know the differences between the 3180SF and the 3184SF, to]
[be honest.  I also thought these were '92 models, not '93]

I think the Good Guys salesman tried to claim that all of the above sets use
the same picture tube, Gaoo or SuperFlat (i.e., it's a SuperFlat picture tube).
I thought they looked really good, but seemed a little dark contrast-wise (at
least, compared to a Sony XBR^2 that happened to be on display).  Of course,
I'm no videophile, so I always wonder how much of these differences can be
made up for with judicious use of the brightness/picture/contrast settings (-:

Any other comments on the Panasonic line, 31" or 33", Gaoo or SuperFlat, would
be appreciated (feature list, qualitative differences, etc.)

	- Greg
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: LD thru the VCR
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:49:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: fc.BxtzF3.CnL
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Dan Goodwin - Sun SSE (dgoodwin@hoops.West.Sun.COM) wrote:

> In order to tape an LD, I have run the video from the LD player to the
> VCR then to the TV.   This is MitsuU54 non-SVHS VCR.  Should the resolution 
> be the same when the video signal gets to my TV?? 

Not necessarily.  Unless the video-in-out path is purely metallic when
playing through, the signal might be degraded.  Mitsu might not have felt
obliged to provide circuits capable of better than broadcast signal quality
(or perhaps better than VHS quality).

> In otherwords, when I copy one of my own disks to tape, am I watching a
> degraded picture?

Absolutely, but that's not the same question you asked above.  I use a VHS
copy of a excerpt from an LD to demonstrate just how crummy VHS is (and how
much is lost when taping an LD to VHS).

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
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From: avfilm@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (W. Mark Ritchie)
Subject: Vertical Interval
Keywords: Vertical Interval, Television
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 16:21:43 GMT

The Vertical Interval is extensively used for Time Code information which
is used by professional editing equipment.  There are a number of
proposals for additional datasets to be sored there but none have been
accepted as production standards yet.
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From: stud1b53@bnr.ca (Anshu Prasad)
Subject: Re: Surround receivers recommendation?
Reply-To: stud1b53@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 19:36:50 GMT

In article <of3F3LW00WBMQ2tS0n@andrew.cmu.edu>, Luis Abdon Cifuentes <lc0v+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> I am looking for a surround receiver with pro-logic. The JVCs (507, 707,
|> etc) seems ok. Any comments on their quality and reliability? 
|> Is there any difference in the implementation of the dolby decoder?

  There is a difference in Dolby Pro-Logic Surround decoders.  IMO,
the best are used by Yamaha (who makes their own) and Denon (who use
a PMI chip).  Although more money, I think it is worth it to move up
from a JVC (or Technics or Sony ES or Pioneer Elite) to either a 
Yamaha or Denon.  If money is an issue (you didn't say in your post)
then they may be beyond your budget, though.
  I have heard from some friends that they were disappointed with the
performance of their JVC surround amps.  It might be worthwhile to look
into some others in your price range... Kenwood is one that comes to
mind.  I know some people that are very happy with their Kenwood 
surround systems.

-- 
   __ ___  
  /\ \ \ \  Anshu Prasad                        stud1b53@bnr.ca
 /--\ \/_/  Ottawa, Ontario, CANADA
/_/  \_\    All opinions are my own, not my employer's, BNR Ltd

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From: syd@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Dennis P Hilgenberg)
Subject: Request for FAQ file
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 21:05:10 GMT

I have not read this group in a long time, and have devoted
much more time to audio than to video in recent history; 
to avoid making an ass of myself, I would appreciate receiving,
if it exists, a "frequently asked questions" file.

Thank you.

-- 
Dennis Hilgenberg
syd@ecn.purdue.edu
LaRouche in '96
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Video on standard CD's?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:46:23 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

Tim Russell (trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu) wrote:

> Speaking of this, I noticed in the latest Radio Shack flyer that they're
> touting something called "VES" (for Video Entertainment System)...

Which sounds like yet-another-video-on-CD format.
And I forgot CDTV in my list.
What a mess.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: fingerle@NADC.NAVY.MIL (J. Fingerle)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Indexing
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:40:29 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


I'd like to talk some more on the indexing thread that died
out last week.  My $%^#@* JVC VCR which has just recently
found a new home in my attic, had the indexing capability
and I used it extensively.  I know of several of my tapes 
that had over 30 indexes put on them, so I know that the 
maximum indexing extended at least that high.

More importantly, I'm in the market for a new  (non-JVC) VCR
and I was wondering if the indexes will be usable on other
decks.  Did someone say that JVC was the creater of the index
system and that it is used under license by all the other 
manufacturers?  Is the indexing standardized in format?

Exactly where does the index mark go on the tape?  My deck was
able to put an index mark on during play or record with the only
notice of this being the momentary loss of audio.  While playing
an indexed tape, however, you could not detect an index if one
occurred (unless you were in the search mode.)

Anyway, anyone got any thoughts on this?
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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (five left and cut!)
Subject: Re: S-VHS Deck Questions & Recommendations?
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:28:20 GMT

In article <Bxtvv0.9z7@taligent.com> Jay_Tobias@taligent.com (Jay Tobias) writes:
>In article <1992Nov14.003436.13732@mercury.cair.du.edu>,
>tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (five left and cut!) writes:
>> 
>> In article <BxoA0t.46p@taligent.com> Jay_Tobias@taligent.com (Jay Tobias)
>writes:
>> >
>[...]
>> >Hopefully Sony will support RC time code playback on more of its camcorders
>> >soon.  The TR-101 records it, but it does not play it back over LANC :-(.
>> 
>> How about the 2000? Anybody know?
>> 
>
>What is the 2000?  Is this the alleged followup to the TR101?

I seem to have meant the 200.

Also, I found ads for the 801 for $848, if $800 was a misprint, what did 
you intend?

Tim

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: Richard J. Gaylord <gaylord@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
Subject: FOR SALE KLOSS NOVABEAM 100 PROJ TV
X-Xxdate: Mon, 16 Nov 92 04:20:20 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Organization: University of Illinois
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:18:47 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A72CD204EB019B16@mm-mac22.mse.uiuc.edu>

i am selling a kloss novabeam 100 front projection tv with a 78" screen.

price $1500.
From: brucer@gold.gvg.tek.com (Bruce Rayner)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Is there a timer for the Sony TR81 camcorder?
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:34:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

Try Radio Shack. They have a universal remote with a clock
timer.

BR
From: 0004861036@MCIMAIL.COM (James Millick)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: re XBR ^2
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Doug writes:
|>So, are there any sets which get it (color temperature/gray 
|>scale)right?

  That come straight out of the box, are affordable, and are 
larger than 19", unfortunately no.

|>Or is there a least of many evils?

  If you can get them adjusted, the RCA/ProScans are probably the 
closest.

|>Or do we buy something that matches the existing furniture

  Hey, the existing furniture *is* mostly black and silver boxes 
with cables coming out the back and are easy to match ;-)

|>and wait for HDTV?

  That will be a long, long wait, I think.

Jim Millick
Video Reviewer
The Perfect Vision
230124ZNOV92
From: oberman@ptavv.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Trouble with recent Warner releases
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:10:44 GMT

In article <BxKAw6.2J3@fc.hp.com>, rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) writes:
> Scott Turner (scott@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM) wrote:
> 
>> Anyone else seen similar problems?  Anyone heard of difficulties with
>> recent WHV releases?  Anybody know what my horoscope was like for last
>> week? :-)  (Cue eerie twilight zone music and fade...)
> 
> The question is, who pressed those discs?  Warner is biased towards using
> the WEA (Warner/Elektra/Atlantic) plant, and they seem to be the black
> sheep of the industry right now on sync and cross-talk defects.
 
I suggest looking the the review of WEA pressings in the new TPV. It claims
that the major problem with WEA pressings is that they have very state of the
art equipment that pushes NTSC to its limit. WEA discs on misadjusted monitors
may not look very good, but TPV says that on a properly adjusted monitor they
have excellent quality.

I am just passing this on as I have no way to properly align my monitor. I know
my white is well o vr 6500K.

R. Kevin Oberman			Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Internet: koberman@llnl.gov		(510) 422-6955

Disclaimer: Don't take this too seriously. I just like to improve my typing
and probably don't really know anything useful about anything.
Organization: William Rainey Harper College; Palatine, IL  60067
Date: Tuesday, 17 Nov 1992 00:11:50 CST
From: Steve W Hill <SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: My Pioneer CLD-3090 just died

Well, not completely.  I've had it for 6 weeks.  The box is labeled
CLD-3090/B, I'm pretty sure it's reconditioned.  Anyway,  three days
ago I popped in my new copy of King Kong just to see how it looked
before I went to bed.  Looks great, I thought, and the commentary audio
track sounded interesting.  The next day I put the disc back in and
the audio was fuzzy, crackling, with almost nothing registering on the
VU on my mixer.  Audio from the TV speaker was the same.  I put in a CD,
and I get NOTHING.  No sound at all.  BUT!  If I play a CD, there is
no sound coming out, but when I press DISPLAY on the remote, the
on-screen VU display is normal.  So I know that the player itself is
READING the audio, just not putting it out.
Any self-help advice or similar situations out there for me?  Obviously
I'm taking the unit back.  But someone give me a shoulder to cry on
about it.  :)
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: Jim Cook <J.Cook@ENS.Prime.COM>
Subject: Re: Video on standard CD's?
Reply-To: <J.Cook@ENS.Prime.COM>
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:26:01 GMT

In article <BxzACz.205@fc.hp.com> rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland) writes:
>William R. Cruce (wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu) wrote:
>
>> I have seen a few CD-ROM drives advertising that they support PhotoCD,
>> e.g. NEC's new double speed one (model not handy).  I thought the main
>> issue was being able to read the new type directory required for the
>> multiple sessions.  Is there some advertising hype involved here?
>
>Absolutely.  Do not buy a CD-ROM drive that claims to be "PhotoCD"
>compatible unless they state clearly, and in print, that they support
>multi-session (OrangeBook).  I have have a report that Apple's newest CD-ROM
>drive is fully PhotoCD-compatible, but no others are.

Mmmm...I'd like to start a little friendly discussion here.

First, assume we are talking about a multi-session photo-CD produced by sending
in the same CD each time we have a new roll of photos developed.

1. Is it any cheaper to have photo's added to an existing CD than to have a
new CD produced each time?  If not, then a single-session is fine for those
that don't care that much (most people want prints they can hold).

2. Labs lose film every so often (you can debate how often).
Do I want to send in a disk with my film and give them the possibility of
losing not only my current roll being developed, but all the back rolls already
stored on the multi-session photo-CD?  If you can send the photo-CD in ten 
times, does that make ten times more likely for the first roll to be lost,
nine times more likely for the second, etc.?

Something to think about.

Jim

Newsgroups: rec.video
From: rariss@wx.gtegsc.com (Rushdi A. Ariss)
Subject: Computer -->VCR Video
Summary: Looking for VGA to NTSC card
Keywords: Help
Organization: GTE Govt Sys, IIPO, Weather Sys Engr
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:45:09 GMT


	I'm interested in a low-priced VGA to NTSC converter.  While genlock 
would be nice, it is not necessary.  I want to create simple titles for home 
videos that look nice, and I've got plenty of computer programs that can do 
it.  What I don't have is the hardware.

	Can you provide me with:

	1)	Your experience with this type unit
	2)	How much does it cost.
	3)	Is GENLOCK very costly
	4)	Where I can get such a beast.

	Thanks in advance!

	Rushdi A. Ariss
	rariss@wx.gtegsc.com
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: Monty Solomon <monty%roscom@think.com>
Subject: Re: Camcorder battery does not fully charge
Reply-To: Monty Solomon <roscom!monty@think.com>
Organization: Proponent
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:22:00 GMT

In article <1e8h2fINNhjo@marvin.Warren.MENTORG.COM> samir@Warren.MENTORG.COM  
(Samir Agarwal) writes:
> My camcorder battery (the two hour SONY NP-77HD) does not fully charge any
> more or so I think. The battery has 5 LED indicators. The fifth indicator
> does not glow any more.
> 
> I always made sure that I charge my battery only when it was totally
> discharged.

You may have damaged the battery.  See below.


Begin forwarded message:

From: 0003991080@mcimail.com (Proctor & Associates)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Nicad "Memory Effect" (was Cordless Phone Newbie Question)
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:00:00 GMT
Organization: TELECOM Digest

In a recent TELECOM Digest, betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
writes:
 
> 4) Is this thing supposed to be left in the base or can I bring it
> outside and wait for it to ring? Does it have to stand up in the base?
 
wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer) responds:
 
> No need to keep it in the base, except for charging.  However, it is
> best NOT to keep charging and recharging. Better to use the batteries
> until the battery-low light comes on.  Continued short charges can
> cause the battery to aquire a short-memory, and begin to lose it's
> ability to stay charged for a full term.
 
Actually, the "memory effect" myth about nicad batteries has been
pretty well debunked.
 
Turns out that a memory effect can only be demonstrated under very
carefully controlled lab conditions, where the cell is slightly
discharged hundreds of times to exactly the same discharge point.
Otherwise it does not exist.
 
The most damage done to nicad cells by the memory effect is when users
attempt to fully discharge the cells to avoid the mythical effect, and
then drive it into reverse polarity, damaging the cells.
 
Sorry I don't have references with me on this.  There was an article
in the past year in QST (a ham radio magazine, published by the
American Radio Relay League) about this, and a few years back there
was an item in QST Technical Correspondence from a battery engineer at
Gould explaining that memory effect in nicads does not exist.
 
The myth is quite popular though.  I have seen ads for fancy
microprocessor controlled nicad charges that carefully do a deep
discharge before each charge.
 
 
Paul Cook                        206-881-7000
Proctor & Associates        MCI Mail 399-1080
15050 NE 36th St.           fax: 206-885-3282
Redmond, WA  98052-5317   3991080@mcimail.com



-- 
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# monty%roscom@think.com
From: howarth@med.uth.tmc.edu (Jack W. Howarth)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: new lbx lds?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 19:04:22 GMT


    I am trying to find out what major new lbx LaserDisks have been released
lately. In particular I am looking for
     CLV versions of Alien and Aliens (Alien3 as well) 
     CLV of the remastered Sparatus (with missing footage)
     CLV of the remastered Lawrence of Arabia (with extra footage)
any other 'classic' of 'epic' films re-released in LBX. Thanks
                     Jack

--
Jack W. Howarth, Ph.D.                      Univ. of Texas Medical School
Research Fellow                                            P.O. Box 20708 
Department of Biochemistry                           Houston, Texas 77225      
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