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From: cuz@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Cousin It)
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Organization: Insert Football Into Mouth Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 07:08:26 GMT

apalon@stein.u.washington.edu (Andrew Alleman) writes:
>In article <dkm2.718918218@Isis.MsState.Edu> dkm2@ra.msstate.edu (David K. Magee) writes:
>>apalon@stein.u.washington.edu (Andrew Alleman) writes:
>>>In article <TOMA.92Oct12142345@db.TC.Cornell.EDU> toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma) writes:
>>>>Miami and Wash play a common opponent, Arizona. If Arizona goes up to
>>>>Washington, and doesn't do as well as they did against Miami, then you
>>>>have your answer. Wash #1. If they do better than they did against Miami,
>>>>then Miami #1. 
>>
>>>I agree with you on this.  This will be the most reliable data point to
>>>apply when comparing Miami and Washington.  Transitive properties simply
>>>don't work in College football.  BTW - Washington plays AT arizona.
>>
>>This is absurd.  Folloe this logic:
>>
>>LSU beat Mississippi State 24-3.
>>Mississippi State beat Florida 30-6.
>>
>>By your logic, LSU shoud have destroyed Florida.  Florida beat LSU 28-21.

>Obviously you didn't read my statement very carefully.  I said
>transitive properties (ie. A beats B and B beats C therefore A is better than
>C) DON'T WORK in college football.  Your example supports my statement.
>Arizona is a COMMON OPPONENT between Miami and Washington, and therefore
>a more valid data point.

	Nope, you're just spewing bullshit. You say that transitive
properties don't work, BUT then say that Arizona is a good data point.
THAT IS a Transitive relationship. Just bring it to it's logical
conclusion.

Miami beats Az. by 1
U-Dub beats Az. by 243

Then, if Miami played U-Dub, U-Dub would win by 242.

	Besides, if you read Rory's posts, thay are all common
opponents. Be consistent, any comparison between three sets of teams
don't work. Now, I ask a question of you: If U-Dub beats Az. by more
than a point, but loses (say to Stanford), and Miami goes undefeated,
does this show that U-Dub is actually better than Miami despite the
records? While this in fact *MIGHT* be true, we will never know UNTIL
they meet each other. And, since they probably won't, the polls will
definately say that Maimi is better.

Cousin It                                          cuz@cs.brandeis.edu
"This is like saying how likely am I to jump over a tall building in a
  single bound - unlikely. This is like asking is lightning going to
      strike here in the next two seconds - I don't think so"
   -Ross Perot, on whether he'll re-enter the Presidential race
From: dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Lies, D**n Lies, etc (Re: PSU is Overrated!)
Keywords: Linebacker U.
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:46:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: utdallas.1992Oct15.214624.15907
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas

In article <1992Oct15.142449.12238@fns-nc1.fns.com> gcm@fns-nc1.fns.com (Grover McCoury) writes:
>In article <92288.072824KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu> <KRB104@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>And you pennheads out there,
>>don't begin to talk about 1986, PSU's BYU National Championship, one game
>>season in which if Vinny Testerverde wasn't color blind, would have went the
>>other way (five interceptions come to mind?).
>
>I suppose a *great* defense had nothing to do with the interceptions... 
>
>P.S. - The game ending interception was by a guy named Shane Conlon. BTW,
>       didn't he get a job after school in the NFL?   ;-)

(Here we go again)
I'm just an OU fan, but wasn't the last interception by some kid with a 
Greek name: Giftopolous (sp?), besides everyone knows OU should have won
the title (again) in '86 (and '87 if Holieway stays healthy).  
Really, though, PSU earned the MNC that year in the closest thing to a 
playoff game we'll likely see in div. 1 ball.

>   Grover McCoury

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From: jcopelan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (The One and Only)
Subject: Re: Big 10 Little 9 predictions
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:15:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.162502.20201@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
>In article <1992Oct9.205839.2864@cbnewse.cb.att.com> jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (james.r.fehrenbacher) writes:

...>>I'd say Michigan deserves about a no 12 or 14 rating. No 
>>other Big 10 school deserves to be in the top 25.
>
>I'd put Michigan a little higher than that, but you probably are correct
>here too.
>
>>If Penn St was competing this year, they'd go undefeated
>>in league play.
>
>Yes, unless they played at Michigan and were caught playing a bit poorly.

I think that Penn St. is over rated, as Miami will soon show the world in about
an hour.
As much as I hate to say it, Michigan would also kick Penn  State's butt.

>>Penn St will beat Miami this week.
>
>Hard to say.  I think Miami will win, myself.  Too many people are picking
>Penn State, and that's when Miami seems to do its best.

I had the wierdest dream last night, I dreamt that I slept through the Miami-
Penn St. game and then couldn't find out the score!  Anywhere!  Well, I did
get the score just before I woke up: Miami 34,  Penn St. 30.

No, I don't believe in psychic phenomena.  Actually, I don't think it will
be this close, but Miami will win.

jc

-- 
Wise man: "Don't think too much."
Seeker: Hmm... Wonder what he's _really_ trying to say...
From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: gators in the poll:  why?
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:55:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA


>The thing that bugs me the most is to see Clemson (2-2) and Florida (1-2)
>still in the poll . . . 
>
>reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali)

much as it pains me to admit it, the team sucks:
UF shouldn't even be ranked in the top 250.

ok
dpm
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From: rowdy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (robert.dieckmann)
Subject: Re: Big East Preview for October 10, 1992
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:21:24 GMT

In article <Bvv13F.MKJ@acsu.buffalo.edu> v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts) writes:
> 
> RUTGERS (3-2,1-1) at SYRACUSE (3-1,0-0).
> Last week:  Syracuse beat Louisville (1-4), 15-9.  After trailing 9-7 at
> the half, Syracuse managed a 63-yard drive to win it in the third.  In an
> ugly one, Syracuse outgained the Cardinals 317-161.  Rutgers lost to Penn 
> State (5-0), 38-24.

Insightful recap on the Rutgers game, Tim.  Allow me to add to it.
Last year RU gained quite a reputaion for its defensive secondary,
but everybody ran the ball down RU's throat.  This year Coach Graber
has the line stacked and is relying on the secondary to cover in
a mano y mano.  It hasn't worked right.  RU has allowed a 3 yd per
carry average for one of the better run defenses in the nation.
HOWEVER, Foley, Van Pelt, and Sacca have burned the Knights through
the air for 300 yards each, putting RU around 107th in pass defense.
The timing is bad for RU and I expect the 'Cuse to change things
around.  Plus, somebody always scores >35 in a Rutgers game and
I don't think it's going to be the Scarlet Knights.
Look for a 20 point win by the Orangemen.

TRIVIA QUESTION/  What visiting teams have the most wins in
the Dome??

Answer:  Penn State 4 and Rutgers 3.

> 
> TEMPLE (1-4,0-1)
> Last week:  Lost to Washington State (4-0), 51-10.
I agree.  These guys are not worthy of a recap either.


> 
> Timothy C. Pitts             


-- 
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From: dostalik@utdallas.edu (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: TEXAS vs. ou
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:03:08 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.154659.23682@chpc.utexas.edu> boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay)) writes:
>In article <1992Oct7.021833.14973@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> curran@nsslsun.nssl.uoknor.edu (Brian Curran) writes:
>[lots of drivel deleted ]
>
>>You can count?  Gee, I knew Gov. Richards was improving higher education,
>>but I am truly amazed!  You count better than your cousins at College
>>Station :-/.
>
>And finally another attack on HIGHER education. Like there is such a thing
>in Oklahoma. Sheesh. ;-) 
>
>Jay

Actually, OU's freshman class this year ranked 7th in the U.S. for incoming national merit
scholars and 1st among all U.S. public universities.  The new pres., Van Horn, seems to
be making good things happen at Oklahoma.

By the way:           TEXAS SUCKS!

    OOOO      
   O    O     =================================== |     Bill Dostalik
   O  U O  U          Oklahoma Sooners            | dostalik@utdallas.edu
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    OOOO   U     1950 1955 1956 1974 1975 1985    | Univ. of Okla. @ Dallas    
      U    U  =================================== | 
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From: costley@solo.eng.hou.compaq.com (Brett Costley)
Subject: Re: One-sided Rivalries
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:38:17 GMT

re: Georgia Tech vs. Georgia:

>>deal out of it.   After all, "To Hell With Georgia ..." is part of
>>our school song ...
>>
>Yes, and they sing "Glory, glory to Old Georgia and to Hell with
>Georgia Tech" also.
>

I saw the words to an Alabama fight song the other day.  It was
interesting to note that both Georgia Tech and Georgia were 
mentioned in it but no other schools.  And to think that all the talk
going on now is whether Auburn or Tenn. is a bigger game for Alabama.
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Pac10 is the best conference so far
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:06:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee) wrote:
}
}Well, the ACC may have gone .500 against a single conference, but what was
}the
}conference's overall record in bowl play? 

I'm not telling, it's too embarassing. ;->

Oh, all right:

East Carolina over NC State
Oklahoma over Virginia
Kal over Clem(p)son
Georgia Tech over Stanford

Can I include Florida State over Texas A&M?  No?  Well, it was worth a try.

1991 was a poor bowl year for the ACC; however, the conference traditionally
does well in bowls, second only to the PAC-10 in bowl winning percentage.
(I don't think bowl winning percentage is a particularly accurate measure
of conference strength, however.)

}What was its record in overall regular season non-conference play?

I don't have that number handy, but I'm sure it was excellent since
most ACC teams play such a wimpy slate outside the league.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu
   "Close only counts in horseshoes and hand-grenades."
                                 "And computer rating systems."
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From: HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.)
Subject: Re: TEXAS vs. ou
Organization: University of Houston Administrative Computing
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:51:59 GMT
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In <1992Oct7.021833.14973@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> curran@nsslsun.nssl.uoknor.edu writes:

[assorted fish-style woofing deleted]
[reply to the fish-style woofing deleted]

> Where the best university is run by Aggies.

  No argument from me.

>  And where
> the favorite meal of all Texans is calf fries and Dr. Pepper.

  I prefer Big Red.
 
> >		For the fourth year in a row, 
> 
> You can count?  Gee, I knew Gov. Richards was improving higher education,
> but I am truly amazed!  You count better than your cousins at College
> Station :-/.
> bc 

  I beg to differ.  WE can count at least up to 5.  As in 5 - 0.  Some of us
can even go as high as 8, as in 7 out of the last 8 vs. your buddies in Austin.

:-) <------- Just in case.


semper fi,

Jammer Jim Miller 
Texas A&M University '89 and '91
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From: ldr@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM (Dale Robbins)
Subject: Re: PSU is Overrated!!!!!!
Organization: NCR Corp, E&M-Columbia, Columbia, SC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 12:14:08 GMT

In article <92290.000035KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.194736.24485@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>,
>ldr@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM (Dale Robbins) says:
>
>>Kurt, I thought the Clemson tigers were MNC in '82.  Beat the dog out of      e
>>someon
>>in the orange bowl.
>
>But what did the POLLS think?
>
>------------
>Kurt Ludwick
>------------

Kurt 
You may be right about PSU.  I think now that Clemson won it in 1981.
Dale

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From: crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins)
Subject: Re: UT at Austin seriously???
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:54:35 GMT

>In the past 8 years, A&M has a 0.875 winning percentage over the cattle.
>At that rate, the series will be tied in 2032.

 Exactly, it will _never_ happen.

>In the past 8 days, the percentage of cattle dung spewed forth into this
>newsgroups has increase by a factor of at least 10.

  At least it has diluted the toxic waste coming from College Station and
  other parts unknown by at least 40%.

  At that rate, r.s.f.c.
>will turn into alt.closet.cattle.trying.to.convince.everyone.that.we've.been.
>proud.of.being.cows.all.along in approximately 16 days.

 Actually, r.s.f.c. changed it's name a while back to alt.blind.arrogant.
 5-0.against.weak.opponents.overrated.no-qb.ut.bashing.because.we.know.of
 nothing.else.aggie.football.dreamers

>- goober (i think i'll grill up a nice big steak tonight) smith


 -chris (Waiting for turkey day and ou-atm next year. Go sooners!!! [did I
        just say that???])
From: dbarring@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Dwayne Barrington)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: 1AA Poll Thoughts and Questions
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:40:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: mlb.1992Oct13.174005.2664
Reply-To: dbarring@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Dwayne Barrington)
Organization: Harris GISD

As a 1AA follower, I am a little amazed by the
current 1AA poll.  Something just doesn't seem
right.  Some teams lose and only drop one slot, 
while other teams beat higher ranked teams and
still remain at a lower ranking than the team they
beat.  For instance...

Samford (previously 17th) crushed Eastern Kentucky 
(previously 3rd) last Saturday and now Samford is
ranked 13, while Eastern Kentucky is 11th. 

Also, teams like SW Texas State and SW Missouri State
lose games and remain in the poll.  SW Missouri State
is currently 3-3 and ranked #17.

I wonder how the pollsters gather their information 
from around the country?  Does the Sagarin Rating
mean anything.  If so, then the poll is really messed
up.  I know there are 4 poll voters and each of those
4 has a team that ranks teams in their region.   
The 4 voters then get together, via conference call, and 
create the top 20 poll.   Does anyone have more info ? 

Maybe things will even out toward the end of the season
when more games have been played.

Dewayne ( go Knights ) Barrington
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From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: The NEW Penn State MNC Scenario!
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:12:40 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <92279.183450MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu> mark rieker <MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

|        Face it 'cane fans its all over.  You barely escaped Arizona & got
|        lucky with Florida State (again).  With Medearis out O.J. is gonna
|        run wild.  The Orange bowl is cozy compared to 98,000 drunk Penn
|        State maniacs in Beaver Stadium.  Hell, the crowd could top 100,000
|        depending how much they oversell the game.  It was close last year.
|        We're better, you're worse....welcome to the Lions Den!
| -------

It will be a typical autumn afternoon, just another young gun chasing the
dream.  The crowd noise escalates to a fever pitch as the National
Champions take the field to defend their crown.  The opposition stands
idly by, certainly sensing their impending doom.  Just another autumn
Saturday for the Miami Hurricanes.


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From: behzad@mdd.comm.mot.com (Behzad Khamneian)
Subject: Stanford Band
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:50:01 GMT


Hi,
  Could somone please fill me in on why the Stanford Band was banned a couple
of years ago?  I know there was an incident on either the field or the 
sidelines, but am not sure as to what it was exactly.  Please either post or
e-mail me.

  I haven't been follwing the "Stanford Banned" postings, so if there was a 
mention of the incident of a couple of years ago, I haven't seen it.

Thanx,

-Behzad  *smirk*  "Isn't the dancing tree the funniest thing you've ever 
                                                                    seen?"
From: fath1@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:38:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Oct10.143810.16239
Distribution: usa
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <92279.184117RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I don't know who the best band in college football is, but I do know the
>Penn State Blue Band is one of the best.  My friend in the band told me they
>once played in Buffalo at halftime at a Bills game, and Buffalo invited
>them to come back anytime, any game they want to play in!!!!!!!
>
>                     ROAR LIONS ROAR!!!!!!!!!!!!! - The Nittany Lion

Not to rain on your parade, but a few years back my alma mater
the Miami Redskins Marching Band went up to Buffalo for a game and also
wowed the crowd.  We received over a dozen letters from fans who were 
at the game 
thanking us for the great enthusiasm and performance we gave.  We also got
a letter from the Bill front office with a similar offer.  


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From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Rushing Yards Question (Stanford/UCLA)
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:27:08 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) wrote:
}
}                                                                But
}the stats also said "Team -10", i.e negative 10 yards rushing charged
}to the team.  Anybody knows what's that about?

My guess would be a "Team" fumble which was recovered 10 yards behind
the line of scrimmage.  Such a fumble can be scored due to a bad
handoff exchange (etc.) where it is not obvious to whom to charge 
the thing.

(And BTW, where are those wonderful Gidi computer ratings?)

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

       "Death wears a big hat, 'cause he's a big bloke."
From: stearnss@tirith.carleton.edu (Bear for Prez)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Goober School
Date: 14 Oct 1992 23:23 CDT
Organization: Carleton College
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Keywords: clueless, expansion
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To: Goober Smith, Dictator for Life, Goober School for the Unkneauxing and
Clueless
To: Cliff Slaughterbeck, Vice Dictator for Life, Goober School for the
Unkneauxing and Clueless

Well, I must congratulate Cliff on the excellent job he has done spreading the 
Unkneauxingness up there at Husky U. and throught the PAC-10. The cluelessness
of most of the Husky Dawgbrains is truly amazing. Except Behzad. His posts are
entirely too reasonable to be coming from a Husky fan. could you see to it he
is taken care of?
In fact, you are doing such a good job, Cliff, that the Unkneauxingness has
spread to the whole conference. You have $tanfurd people saying they will go to
the Rose Bowl, and the general PAC-10 ROOOLZ!!!!! group is quite amusing. A job
well done.

I think the time is ripe for another branch campus for the Goober School for
the Unkneauxing and Clueless. It appears that there are many in Charlottesville
that are excellent candidates for students. Perhaps the Blowhards would
qualify, or maybe some of those from Folsom Field, except K.S. Manu does not a
whole school of cluelessness make.

Sincerely,
Scott Stearns
a 'Bama fan. (no, we're _never_ clueless ;)  

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From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Thrash-factors (was Re: AP Top 25)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:43:17 GMT

In article <39489@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:
>
>Miami was play at home. Home field advantage is pretty significant
>in college football. 

3 touchdowns!!! Now you're begining to sound like Bill McCartney.

>| Prashanth                    |                      |

Njan
From: exurlsr@exu.ericsson.se (Robert Lightfoot, xt-dL, 0627)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: A&M Beats Stanford Was Re: WEEKLY TOP 25
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:05:50 GMT
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Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
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              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article 5355@news.acns.nwu.edu, fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Eric West) writes:
>Doug Azzarito writes:
>>
>>      -----=====< The A.P. Top 25 >=====-----
>>
>>THIS LAST
>>WEEK WEEK  SCHOOL      W L T  Last Week's Results          Next Game
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> 8   11  Stanford      5 1 0  WON at UCLA, 19-7            v. Arizona, 10/17
>			^^^^^
>I can't remember; who beat Stanford this season?  Thanks in advance.
>
>ecw
>fish@casbah.acns.nwu.edu


That would be the Texas Aggies!

Go Aggies

You are welcome, after the fact.
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