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From: sep@netcom.com (Scott Pendleton)
Subject: Re: NEW TEXEL DRIVE
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:00:45 GMT

Any idea on the price and availability of this drive? Is it MultiSession
PhotoCD compatible? Thanks for the info...

Scott
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Xref: sparky alt.cd-rom:3521 comp.os.ms-windows.misc:3662 comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32:1391
From: wcs@NeoSoft.com (Bill Simpson)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
Subject: Windows cdroms
Summary: Microsoft Developer Network CDROM and GNU for NT CDROM
Keywords: CDROM WINDOWS NT GNU
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:54:58 GMT
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900


Oct 7, 1992 
From: Bill Simpson wcs@neosoft.com
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
I just got my Microsoft Developers Network CD (Pre-Release Disk 1).
So far it looks great, on-line documentation, sample code, and high
speed topic search.
    4215 files
    238,193,388 bytes
The CD appears to include ALL the Microsoft C/C++, SDK, DDK, ...
manuals on line:
Programming Windows 3.0 (Petzold)
Advanced MS-DOS Programming
MS-DOS Programmers Reference
MS Systems Journal (volume 5 and 7)
MS C/C++ 7.0  (9 books)
Macro Assembler 6.0 (3 books)
Multimedia Development Kit (5 books)
OLE 1.0 Programmers Ref
Win32 SDK for Windows NT
Windows 3.1 DDK (6 books)
Windows 3.1 SDK (7 books)
Quick C for Windows (4 books)
... Plus more...

Cost: $30.00 plus shipping and tax. (includes 1 free update CD)
Microsoft Developer Network CD 1-(800)-227-4679 ext 11771
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Also, has anybody ordered or gotten the Congruent 'ToolBuster' 
GNU Utilities for Windows NT CDROM yet?

The flier I got claims:
emacs, clalc, scheme, gcc, g++, libg++, glibc, gas, ar, ld , nm...
bison, flex, make, gdb, gawk, smalltalk, perl, indent, gperf, ae,
f2c, gdbm, bash, groff, tar/cpio, diff, grep(s), patch, rcs, cvs,
file utils (ls, cp, ...), shell utils, text utils, m4, sed, find,
elvis, time, tput, ghostscript, gct.

Includes source, Intel and MIPS executables.
Price: $199.00 (seems kind of high too me!)
(10% of gross goes to Free Software Foundation)
Includes 90 days free telephone and internet e-mail product support
(although they didn't include their e-mail address).

Congruent Corporation
110 Greene Street
New York, NY 10012
212/431-5100
212/219-1532 Fax
Let me know if anybody reviews the Congruent CD.
Thanks in advance.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Bill Simpson                         713/561-7797
Interface Consultants                713/561-0634 Fax
15326 Bonita Springs Drive           Internet: wcs@neosoft.com
Houston, TX 77083                    Compuserve: 76600,1577
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: tlhouse@nyx.cs.du.edu (Thomas House)
Subject: Re: Single/Multisession Photo CD
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 15:56:53 GMT


In 3 weeks or so Sony is supposed to be coming out with a MultiSession XA
Mode 2 CD-Rom drive, which is Photo-CD compatible (at least the Photo-CD I
have here says thats what you need .. and thats what they told us to wait
for when they sent us the disk).  It'll go for around $400.  I'm unsure on
other specs (not even sure on in/ex/ternal).

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: dimento@opal.cs.tu-berlin.de (Christian Moskal)
Subject: Address of NESE publisher?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 22:20:23 GMT

TO: alt.cdrom
DATE: 10/04/92
SUB: Address of NESE CD-ROM publisher

Hello,

I have recently heard of a title called 'NESE CD-ROM'; The National, Economic,
Social And Environmental Data Bank. I was only provided with a phone# but
since I am living in Germany, I'd really appreciate if someone could forward 
the address or fax# of the publisher!

Any pointers and replies are highly appreciated ...

Thank you,
-- Chris
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---==*#     email: dimento@cs.tu-berlin.de,  Tel. +49 30 451- 4692     #*==---
From: chad@ceco.ceco.com (Chad W. Bohlmann)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: marking or labelling cdroms
Date: 7 Oct 92 17:05:22 GMT
Organization: Commonwealth Edison Co., Chicago, IL

In article <36369@hoptoad.uucp> rdm@cfcl.com (Rich Morin) writes:

>> Are there permanent marking pens, adhesive labels, or some kind of
>> engraving tools that work but do no damage to the disks?
>
>I just spoke to Pam Clancy at DMI.  She confirms that felt-tip permanent
>markers are OK, but that any hard marker (engraver, ball-point pen, etc.)
>will damage the disc.  She also says that adhesive labels are a bad idea.
>

The reason that adhesive labels are a bad idea is because of the weight 
difference from one side to the other.  In other words, the disk won't spin
correctly, and the drive has a hard time reading it.  This is not true for
all CD players, but would you risk damaging the spindle of your CD player?
It doesn't take much to throw off the disk's weight.  My little brother put 
a piece of scotch tape on the back of one of my disks, and it sat there trying 
over and over to read the thing when it just had done so a minute earlier.
From: julien@sdc.boeing.com (William Julien)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Windows 3.1 Programmer's Doc onBooks on CD-ROM??
Date: 8 Oct 92 03:09:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boeing Computer Services (ESP), Seattle, WA

Take a look at Microsoft's "developer CD". To enroll in the pre-release
program call 1-800-227-4679 ext. 11771
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        /\_/\  
   /\  / o o \		     William Julien
  //\\ \~(*)~/		Boeing Computer Services	julien@sdc.boeing.com
  `  \/   ^ /	   	     (206) 865-5511		
     | \|| ||						     Grin and
     \ '|| ||		   Performance Analysis		      ignore
      \)()-())          #include <std disclaimer>		it
=============================================================================
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From: jdzakar@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Joseph D. Zakar)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Toshiba CD-ROM Drive and Mac have Trouble with Grolier's CD
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:25:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Great Beyond

I have a Toshiba XM3301 connected to a MacIIcx.  I ran into a problem recently
when my wife bought Grolier's 1991 encyclopedia CD for it.  The drive
wouldn't even acknowledge that the CD was inserted.  A long tale of her
relationship with Toshiba support would go here but I'll save that for
another posting.  The bottom line is that Toshiba upgraded the firmware in
the drive and now the drive acknowledges the CD but puts up the familiar,
"This is not a Macintosh disk <EJECT> <INITIALIZE>" dialog box (No, I haven't
tried to let it initialize the CD).  I'm now waiting for Toshiba to send a
floppy with new driver software on it (I currently have version 1.4).  Does
anyone have an informed opinion on this problem?

Joe Zakar
jdzakar@afterlife.ncsc.mil
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: mannex@INFERENCE.COM ("", Russ Mannex)
Subject: Whine...
Reply-To: "(Russ Mannex)" <mannex@INFERENCE.COM>
Organization: FUNET-NGW
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:53:02 GMT

lothar@cyrcle.uucp (Bob Trembley) writes:

> I have a SoundBlaster Pro with its internal CD-ROM Drive.  When no Audio
> CD is playing, and I have the CD volume setting in the Windows-based SB
> Pro Mixer very high, I get an annoying high-pitched whine coming out of
> my little desktop speakers.  This is especially noticeable when I have
> a windowed DOS shell visible with large amounts of text scrolling.
>
> Is this normal?  Should I get one of those round ferrite cores and wrap
> it around my speaker cable just outside of the SB Pros jack?  Any
> suggestions?
>

If no other solution proves to be working, a small capacitor across
(in parallel with) each speaker may help. Since this reduces your
frequency response, this should be a last resort.

Radio Shack or some other similar store should have them. Pick a
value, or a grab-bag might even be better; then you could experiment
with different values. Good luck.

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Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: dsp@halcyon.com (Don Smith)
Subject: Copyright Guide available
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:21:46 GMT

 
 The Copyright Guide from the American Soceity of Media Photographers is
available by sending a simple 2-3 (short:) request to: dsp@halcyon.com

 Just be sure to include your e-mail address in the body of your request
and I'll get it right out to you.

 Hopefully it can be the introduction that it is and help clear up some
of the misunderstandings about Copyright.

  Thanks in advance,

      
      Don
      dsp@halcyon.com


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From: jason@cs.utexas.edu (Jason Martin Levitt)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.unix.aux,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: New NEC CDROM driver for Macintosh via anonymous FTP
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: 7 Oct 1992 15:39:14 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


     This is the new CDROM driver from NEC. Version 2.25. It will
allow you to use Kodak's PhotoCD software with your NEC CDR-74, 
CDR-73M and maybe other NEC drives (I've only tried those two). 

     Available via anonymous FTP from rascal.ics.utexas.edu

     The file is ~ftp/mac/support-of-products/NEC/CDROM-driver_2.25_hqx


     Enjoy,

     --jason    jason@cs.utexas.edu

P.S. Special thanks to Werner for providing the FTP access. Thanks Werner!
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: joec@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (joseph cossette)
Subject: Re: DAK offer
Keywords: DAK, music
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:10:48 GMT

posey@iies.ecn.purdue.edu (Edwin Posey) writes:

> Does anyone have an opinion on DAK's latest offer -
> a BSR 6800MX drive plus a Music Launching program
> to play audio CD-s through your computer ...
> 
> All this for $199.90 ...

Yes, I have the unit. It's not bad for $200. It works fine under PC-DOS
or Windows, but there are no drivers for OS/2 (it's not a SCSI drive).
From: ramana@rama.esd.sgi.com (Ramana Vakkalagadda)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Is there a cd-rom version of Encyclopedia Brittanica?
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:48:25 GMT
Reply-To: ramana@rama.esd.sgi.com (Ramana Vakkalagadda)
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA, USA

I remember to have the ad for Encyclopedia Brittanica somewhere.
I don't remember the details or where I have seen it. Could 
someone clarify if there is such a thing on cd-rom? If there is
one - any details will be appreciated. 

thanks 
ramana@sgi.com
From: jonal@dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Photo-CD-R and write software
Date: 16 Oct 92 07:45:45 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

In article <00962188.196F6CC0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu (Joe Weber) writes:
>Path: dhhalden.no!nuug!aun.uninett.no!sunic!mcsun!uunet!caen!spool.mu.edu!vms.csd.mu.edu!2719WEBERJ
>From: 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu (Joe Weber)
>Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
>Subject: Re: Photo-CD-R and write software
>Date: 15 Oct 1992 01:31:32 GMT
>Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
>Lines: 20
>Message-ID: <00962188.196F6CC0@vms.csd.mu.edu>
>References: <1992Oct13.112206.20525@alf.uib.no>
>Reply-To: 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu
>NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu
>In article <1992Oct13.112206.20525@alf.uib.no>, pererik@cmi.no (Per-Erik Nordbo) writes:
>>>From my point of view there is one thing lacking in the Photo-CD concept. I would like to write back images which I may have 1) created synthetically or 2) read from Photo-CD and modified in image processing tools.
>>
>>All you need is Photo-CD-R(ecorder) whith additional write software.The coast of a Photo-CD-R player used in the photo-laboratories is expected to cost $1000 - $2000 when volume shipping starts.
>>
>>Windows and Finder will support Photo-CD READING. Does anybody know whether Kodak will provide software that will allow us to WRITE to Photo-CD-R?
>>
>>-- 
>>Per Erik Nordboe, Christian Michelsen Research, Norway pererik@cmr.no
>
>Well, just my 2cents worth here, but recent inquires at Impulse Computing as
>to getting photo cd recording systems have been met with the figure
>of 100,000 thats right $100,000 that includes 2 recorders and one computer,
>scanner, and some software, but NOT the development equipment!
>
>To my knowledge, at present the cheapest recorder is the phillips cd521
>and this has some attachements that can alow it to write photo-cd, but 
>you are still looking at about $20,000 not $2,000.
>
>JOE

Last weeks InfoWorld had a story about a Kodak Writable CD-ROM drive. Cost 
for the drive is $5,995,- and the authoring software is $1,995,- for the DOS-
based version. Mac & Windows will come soon. It will probably support Photo-
CD. Blank disks are $25 ea.

I could transcript the article if anyone would like it.

Nomad

Jon Lovstad                |   Sorry, but this part of my .sig file has been
jonal@sofus.dhhalden.no    |   retconned by DeFalco...
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From: rab@sprite.berkeley.edu (Robert A. Bruce)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: blank photo-cd and regular cds
Date: 16 Oct 1992 07:37:26 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: sabotage.berkeley.edu

In article <0096218A.49A8C880@vms.csd.mu.edu> 2719weberj@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>Does any one out there know of a good place to buy blank photo-cds?  Or for
>that matter an of the regular CDs that you would use with the phillips cd521?
>Right now the best prices I am seeing are like $30 a pop!  That has got
>to be high, and I want to get a few to play with at work.

The cheapest price I have found for 74 minute (650 meg) blanks is
$31 quantity one, $29 quantity 100, and $27 quantity 500 from
DataWare (1-510-942-3111, ask for Jeff Caplan).  The 68 minute
(600 meg) discs are usually about a buck cheaper.

If anyone knows of a cheaper source of blanks, please let me know
and I will post the cheapest source.

	-bob

Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
From: wallace@titan.trl.OZ.AU (Glenn Wallace)
Subject: Re: SPERM and CD-ROMS
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 07:37:54 GMT

mcnair@slab.unt.edu (SEAN MCNAIR) writes:

>    I recently fell out of bed while I was having some intense sex with my 
>girlfriend and spermed on some CD-ROMS I have. I didn't get a chane to wash 
>them off for three weeks! Soemtimes these CDs skip in the reader. Is this 
>due to the sperm, or could it be something else?

Dear Gumby,

If you'd been practising safe-CD-ROMing, you'd have had your CD-ROM
in a caddy.

Net: g.wallace@trl.oz.au | Help me escape this country! You can't buy Jolt
RealTime: Glenn Wallace  | here, and they don't have Tower records, or
Work: Telecom Australia  | Fry's or anything! Argh.... Oh to be at WDW!
      Drift Project      | I'm on the next plane outta here!
From: xontech@cerf.net (Bruce B. Lacey)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: What happened to NEC's CDR-74?  Is the successor CDR-75
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:33:07 GMT
Organization: XonTech, Inc.
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
X-XXMessage-ID: <A6FF92376F0103E5@xontech.cerfnet.com>
X-XXDate: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:36:07 GMT

I tried place an order for an NEC CDR-74 today (10/12/92) only to be told 
that NEC has discontinued the CDR-74 model and that they will be 
announcing a new drive on the 22nd.  Does anyone know the details?  Will 
the new drive be offered with the bundle that currently comes with the 
CDR-74?  I am anxious to get a high-performance CD-ROM drive and would 
greatly appreciate any inputs regarding this matter.  In addition, if 
anyone can suggest a drive other than the NEC CDR-74 (for a use with a 
Macintosh Quadra 700)-- I'm all ears as Ross Perot would say.

Thanks in advance.
+========================================================================+
|  Bruce B. Lacey      -Technical Group Manager of Systems Engnineering  |
|  XonTech, Inc.       -xontech@cerf.net                                 |
|  Van Nuys, CA        -(818) 787-7380 ext. 295                          |
+~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~+  
|      Specializing in massively parallel computing architectures.       |
+========================================================================+
From: dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Sony CD Rom
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:10:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sony Microsystems, San Jose, CA


In article <1992Oct7.185356.10995@netcom.com>, mesm@netcom.com (Mary E. S. Morris) writes:
|> Why not just get the SCSI adapter from Trantor and call it a day?

For one thing, it isn't a SCSI CD-ROM drive.

Sony sells a couple of different CD-ROM drives.  One is standard SCSI,
and the other is something called "Sony Bus".  Sony Bus is similar to
SCSI, but it isn't SCSI, and Sony Bus drives can not (as far as I have
been able to find out) be converted to SCSI without completely
replacing the internal controller (which you can't buy).

In other words, if you have a Sony Bus CD-ROM, you can't make it work
with a SoundBlaster Pro, Adaptec SCSI card, Corel, or any other SCSI
adapter.

In Seth's case, he can buy a Sony Bus CD-ROM adapter kit (part number
OPA-462) for $149 (retail; I don't know what the selling price is).
Since he has a Portal account, I assume he's in the Bay Area, and
can go to Fry's in Sunnyvale, Computer Biz in San Jose, or Computer
Selection in San Jose, all of whom supposedly stock these.

--
...David Elliott
...dce@smsc.sony.com | ...!{uunet,mips}!sonyusa!dce
...(408)944-4073
..."I take my arms and I wrap them around my art." - F
From: jdzakar@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Joseph D. Zakar)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom
Subject: MacIIcx/Toshiba XM3301/Grolier's CD Works
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:55:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Great Beyond

First, I discovered that the Foreign File Access extension was in the wrong
place.  The Grolier's CD now mounts properly and works.

Now, the story of Toshiba's tech support.  When we found that the CD was not
being recognized, we called ERM, the company we purchased the CD from.  They
had heard of troubles with Toshiba drives and that disc and told us to
contact Toshiba.  Tech support said that a firmware upgrade would solve the
problem.  Even though the drive was still under warranty, they wanted to
charge us $80 and return it in 15-30 days.  They warned us that the newer
firmware might introduce incompatibilities in reading other CDs.  However,
when we called someone else to ask about the incompatibilities, we were
told that we received erroneous information; there would be no
incompatibilities.  It took 3 long distance phone calls (no toll-free number)
to get this far.  We wrote a letter to Toshiba America's Disk Products
Division documenting this story and included our expectations of how the
story should end (free firmware upgrade with a one week turnaround time).

About 10 days later, we received a phone call from customer relations
responding to our letter.  They agreed to meet our expectations.  Despite
our initial troubles, I consider this to be a positive experience with
Toshiba.  All said and done, this was a customer relations problem and,
once we got past the techies, their customer support people knew how to
handle the situation.

A final note for those of you who have had similar problems.  My wife had
performed most of the legwork and was pretty exasperated by the techies.
By the time she got around to writing the letter, it was a real flamefest.
I toned it down considerably and included our expectations of what we
thought a satisfactory solution would be.  That's the important part; don't
make the company guess about how to square things with you.

Joe Zakar
jdzakar@afterlife.ncsc.mil
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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Toshiba CD-ROM Drive and Mac have Trouble with Grolier's CD
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:52:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvvGMt.Du2
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

jdzakar@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Joseph D. Zakar) writes:
>I have a Toshiba XM3301 connected to a MacIIcx.  I ran into a problem recently
>when my wife bought Grolier's 1991 encyclopedia CD for it.  The drive
>wouldn't even acknowledge that the CD was inserted.  A long tale of her
>relationship with Toshiba support would go here but I'll save that for
>another posting.  The bottom line is that Toshiba upgraded the firmware in
>the drive and now the drive acknowledges the CD but puts up the familiar,
>"This is not a Macintosh disk <EJECT> <INITIALIZE>" dialog box (No, I haven't
>tried to let it initialize the CD).  I'm now waiting for Toshiba to send a
>floppy with new driver software on it (I currently have version 1.4).  Does
>anyone have an informed opinion on this problem?
*----
No, just a question.  Are you sure you got the Mac version of the
CD, and not the PC version?
--
	Mike Berger
	Department of Statistics, University of Illinois
	AT&TNET     217-244-6067
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cd-rom