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From: ayh@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Ann Hopkins)
Subject: For Sale: Mac SE/30 5/100 System w/Color Monitor
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Myself
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:08:22 GMT

For Sale:

Macintosh SE/30 Computer with...
   5 MB RAM
   100 MB Hard Disk Drive
   (1) FDHD Floppy Drive
   (1) 800K External Floppy Drive
   XCEED Color 30 Card (8 bit) - supports virtual desktop
   14" Color Monitor
   Monitor Stand
   Powered Speakers, Small
   Standard Keyboard
   Standard Mouse

   To Include...
   System 7.0.1 and Tuneup
   OnTrack Disk Manager
   XCEED Software
   Number of Manuals
   Extra Stuff


Price:  $1800 fairly firm

   For an additional $100 dollars I will leave the machine with 8MB RAM

Please only reply if you are in the general San Francisco Bay Area or can
pick up unit.

Thank you
----------------------------------------------
Ann Hopkins
Daytime Phone:  408-473-4416
San Jose, CA
ayh@wdl1.wdl.loral.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: gix@mdd.comm.mot.com (Brian Gix)
Subject: Surge Protection Recomendations
Summary: Surge, Spike, UPS
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:32:17 GMT


My cheepo $20 surge protector went out a few days ago, and I'm looking
around for a replacement... Does anyone have a particular favorite
which give good protection?

Nice features would include a UPS (although not neccessary), 3-stage
protection, and ADBus control...

Of course, if I can find a simple surge/spike only protector, that would
be good to...

I need brand-names and sources.

Thanks in advance,
Brian Gix

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: patlin_s@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: PowerPC/060 macs
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:07:44 GMT

In article <C146u3.86x@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:
> "Donpaul C. Stephens" <deathbird+@CMU.EDU> writes:
> 
>>Is the dpi for WYSIWYG going to be improved?
> 
>     Improved how? 72dpi = 72point = 1inch = WYSIWYG. How does one
> improve on the real thing? Granted not all Apple monitors actually
> display at "exactly" 72dpi but all of them are designed to be as close
> as possible.

Why 72? Just because we use that now, I see no reason why a future standard
could not supplant it.  Our printers are now commonly 300 dpi.  Why not
have 300 dpi monitors that show everything at the same level of detail as it
is printed?

Anybody ever compared a 72 dpi WYSIWYG image of Palatino 10 to the printed 
form? It's awful.

Just my .02$

Scott.
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Laserwriter 600/630 vs. HP Laserjet 4M
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:09:48 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez) writes:

>In article <C19Ezz.Cu4@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian
>Hughes) writes:
>>    I don't know about that. The PS1700 that I have processes a page so
>>quickly that it appears to be slow because it has to wait for the
>>information to be sent over the LocalTalk port (what I wouldn't give for
>>EtherNet).

>Phone QMS and ask for the Release 2 ROM upgrade. They say that it will
>optionally support EtherTalk, but only if you don't use any other protocol on
>the Ethernet port. I can't try it myself, because we have the Ethernet port
>answering TCP/IP print jobs.

    My last comment was meant to be read "What I wouldn't do to have
Ethernet in my office," not in the printer. If my office was on
EtherTalk instead of LocalTalk I would have ordered the printer with the
Ethernet option.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: CD-Tech Driver cdev version?
From: kanala@sc2a.unige.ch
Date: 28 Jan 93 14:14:05 +0200
Organization: University of Geneva, Switzerland

In article <1993Jan21.010352.20232@kekux.kek.ac.jp>, toge@kekvax.kek.ac.jp (Nobu Toge) writes:
> Hi, I have been using CD Tech CD-ROM Porta-Drive since early 1991.
> The version of the driver/control panel that I am using is v.1.3.2,
> created Nov. 7, 1990.
> 
> It is sort of working OK, except that the control panel freezes when
> I use it under System 7.1 with 32-bit mode addressing (IIci).
> 
> Is there a new version of this software, and if so how can I get a hold
> of it?
> 
> - Nobu Toge 

I had problems with 1.4 version of cdev on my Quadra, sent an AppleLink message
to cd.tech and got the 1.5 cdev. It works well with 7.0.1.4, I'm not yet under
7.1, but I will try it soon.

Roman Kanala, COMIN, University of Geneva, Switzerland, kanala@sc2a.unige.ch

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: robt@agsm.unsw.edu.au (Rob Trevor)
Subject: Printing Red on a DeskWriter 550C
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Australian Graduate School of Management
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:54:48 GMT

Well, I've just unpacked my DeskWriter 550C and am having some difficulties
getting sensible colors out of it.  In particular, I'm having trouble
getting anything that resembles red to print red - its more a 'brown' than
anything else.  (This is true for colour PICT's as well as for the old 8
color scheme supported by Word 5.0 - e.g., printing out the same line in
each of the 7 printable colors in Word 5 produces a 'brown' red line.)

I know that color matching problems exist, but are they this great?  Can
anybody else get a true red out of a 550C?  

Thanks

Rob

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From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer)
Subject: Re: 68881 or 68882?
Organization: Netcom. San Jose, California
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 20:48:55 GMT

af733@yfn.ysu.edu (Ryan James Smith) writes ...
>I've found a place that sells Math co-processors pretty cheep and
>I need to know if it matters if I buy a 68881 or a 68882.  I 

If speed isn't that imprtant, then no, it doesn't matter.  The 68882
is a somewhat smarter version of the 68881 that overlaps more
operations and can be 1.5x faster (but typically isn't).

>(oops)           ?  And they had different speeds, do I need a
>particular speed for my LC (my guess would be the slowest...)

Get one the same speed as the 68020 (16MHz?)

By the way, do you have someplace to plug this 68881/2 in?  The LC
didn't come with an empty FPU socket.

-- 
Ray Fischer                   "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth
ray@netcom.com                 than lies."  -- Friedrich Nietszsche
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.graphics.animation
From: zundel@cc.gatech.edu (Eric Zundel Ayers)
Subject: Re: How to get a 5 second 'burst' of real-time animation on a Mac
Reply-To: zundel@cc.gatech.edu (Eric Zundel Ayers)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:08:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan24.202451.5700@netcom.com> ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer) writes:
>meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman) writes ...
>>I was wondering if it's possible to get a 640x480 (or smaller for
>>overscan) image to play ...
>Not possible.
>
>Let's look at some math.  But first, note that NTSC is only 640x200
>interlaced.  The extra vertical resolution can't be used.
>
>Math:  640 * 200 * 3 (bytes) is 384000 bytes.  Times 30 (frames per
>second) is 11520000 (say 11MB).  Thus, you're asking if a 16MHz 68030
>can transfer 11MB per second from memory across NuBus to a video board
>in one second.  If it's 640x480, then the number is 27MB.
>
>I don't think so.  Sorry.

This is simple math, a little bit too simple.  Remember, most animation 
repeats many parts of a scene, so you might not have to transfer all 
of that from memory to the screen, only parts.  This is how the .FLI 
format works... You start from a keyframe and then iteratively
modify it as time goes by...  

So, I imagine it *might* be possible on a machine that had slower 
transfer times (A device hooked up to SCSI-2 is 10MB/sec, so it must
be possible)  But then, you have to consider that there is some computation 
time involved, etc...  I have seen some real-time animations on an SGI,
but they were in small windown (about 300x200 or so)  and a Mac is no SGI!

Eric.

Eric Z. Ayers
zundel@cc.gatech.edu
Graphics, Visualization, and Usability Center (GVU)
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA 30213 USA
From: cccphil@othello.ucdavis.edu (Phil Lum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Powerbook 140 startup problems?
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:47:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Information Technology, U.C. Davis


      My friend asked me to look into her Powerbook 140.  It doesn't startup
correctly when the power button is pressed.  Specifically, when the button is
pressed, I hear the speaker click and the screen light up, but I don't hear
the usual startup chord.  Sometimes the hard drive spins up and sometimes
it doesn't.  I was wondering if this was an easy-to-fix problem; i.e. is it
just a loose connector which I can tighten by opening case to access it?  Or
is it a more complex problem?  Mail or post.  Thanks.

	 Philip Lum
  cccphil@othello.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: gnoer1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Geoffrey Noer)
Subject: Re: SilverLining or HardDiskTool Kit? Opinions sought
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:19:45 GMT

In article <C14EE7.J9D@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, hades@coos.dartmouth.edu
(Hades) writes:
>     I pretty much agree with this assessment, and it is one of the
> reasons that I don't purchace La Cie hard drives. I can't see paying the
> extra $100-$200 more than other drive sellers just to get Silverlining,
> which never seemed to work right for me. HDT is a really nice set of
> utiltites for hard disks, I have all of the drives in my office
> formatted with it.
..

I own Silverlining and have never had the need for technical support.  It
has worked every time without a single problem.  I haven't tried HDT so I
can't assert that it's better but Silverlining is a quality product that I
can't imagine my being without.
--Geoff Noer
gnoer1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: martin@cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas)
Subject: Re: Street Fighter
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 14:27:47 GMT

ma168wai@imath1.ucsd.edu (Damon Lou) writes:
>Hope this isn't a stupid question but...how come there are no games
>like Street Fighter for the mac (that i've seen)?  The only games
>that i've seen (in that genre) are really weak imitations.  I've
>paid thousands of dollars for my computer, but i can't play games
>that a Super Nintendo can play???

If a Super Nintendo does what you want a computer to do, why did
you pay thousands of dollars for your Macintosh?  :)

To put it another way: the thousands of dollars you pay are for
nice generalised hardware and software that let you do almost
anything ... word processing, number crunching, gaming etc... with
a degree of style and ease-of-use.
The Nintendo is a specialised product, so it has to be special
in at least *that* area, if nothing else.

Martin
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From: 89611628s@sgcl1.unisg.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Power consuption
Date: 26 Jan 93 10:04:21 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

Hello Folx

Does anyone know what is the power consuption of a Mac IIsi when he is off ?

That would interets me (especially via mail).

Ralph Schwegler
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Stormbringer <mateyg@rpi.edu>
Subject: Re: Quadra 700 questions..
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A78C585112015538@stormbringer.stu.rpi.edu>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 27 Jan 93 15:18:41 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d17
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:19:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.182107.8777@ra.oc.com> Dr. Robert R. Wier,
 wier@merlin.etsu.edu writes:
>In looking at buying a Quadra 700, and talking with some people
>who already own one, a couple of unresolved questions have 
>emerged. (I'm looking at a 700 vs a 950 because I'm using my
>own money :-)
>
>When you look at the memory slots, you'll see some sockets
>in addition to the standard SIMM slots which are labeled
>VIDEO SRAM - since the Quadra normally comes with 8 bit color/
>b&w capability, what does filling these memory slots give you?
>Increased speed? 24 bit color? 

In the Quadra 700 there are six VRAM slots. Adding more VRAM does NOT
speed anything up (some techie may catch me there; there might be some
acceleration as far as graphics are concerned, but it would be minimal)
The true prupose of VRAM is to allow more colors on a monitor, but that
depends on the size of the monitor: 2megs of VRAM (0.5 on board + 1.5 
installed) will give you 24 bit color on 13' and 16' monitors, but only
8 bit color on a 21".
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From: oueichek@gram (Ibaa Oueichek)
Subject: Re: Info on the New Macs coming Feg 10th
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:08:50 GMT

Michael J McNaughty (mjm4@kimbark.uchicago.edu) wrote:
: 
: >>>Jonathan W. Katz wrote in a message on 12 Jan 93 to All
: >>>
: >>> JWK> Mac LC III:  25-MHz 68030  32-bit data bus  4 Mbytes of RAM
: >>> JWK> expandable to 36  one PDS
: >>> JWK> Support for eight bit color on 16-inch monitors
: 
: 
: 
: I have a question. If you have a Mac LC, and Apple offers an upgrade path
: to the LCIII (Please!!!) will this allow the upgraded mac to have the
: same RAM expansion option to 36MB? Only having a 10MB max thanks to those
: wonderful ROMs is really disappointing.
  The 10 MB's limit isn't imposed by the ROMs, it's a limit of the motherboard
  designe. Giving that when you upgrade you Mac you swap the whole MB (including
  ROMs BTW) you should obtain a full LCIII. 
  I agree with your "Please", i bought a second hand LC with the hope of being
  able to upgrade to LCIII. I really *hate* to stay with an obsolete machine
  (especially when it's as expensive as a Mac).
: 
: -- 
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: The University of Chicago			front of me, than to have
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From: dab3+@pitt.edu (David M. Brienza)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Quadra VRAM Question
Date: 23 Jan 93 15:55:38 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: SHRS

How much VRAM is necessary in a Quadra 700 to display 8-bit color
on a 21" color monitor?

David M. Brienza                                     tel:(412) 826-3138
School of Health and Rehabilitation Sciences         fax:(412) 826-3143
University of Pittsburgh                           email:dab3+@pitt.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: yl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Axl )
Subject: Re: Mac IIci problem
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 23:21:43 GMT

yl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Axl ) writes:


>Hi you netters who have Mac IIci's. I just recently purchased one and I 
>was testing its performance with Speedometer 3.1 and discovered that on
>the benchmarks, my IIci whetstone benchmark was only 12.xx while all other
>Macs IIci's I tested benchmarked at 36.xx.  Even the IIsi had 32.xx.  Can
>anyone who have Speedometer 3.1 check this out for me?  I don't know if there
>is something wrong with my math-coprocessor or what?  Your help would be
>appreciated.


>--Rick Lin
>  yl44729@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu


Sorry about the alarm guys.  After turning off all my INITS, my IIci now beats
all the other IIci's tested with the same version of Speedometer.

However, does this mean that when all my INITS are turned on, my Mac actually
slows down?
From: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Sampo Color Monitors???
Date: 28 Jan 93 06:32:17 GMT
Reply-To: jtgorman@cs.arizona.edu (J. Taggart Gorman)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Organization?  We don't need no steenking organization!
Discliamer: Upon my being captured or killed, my professors will
            disavow any knowledge of me, my statements, and/or
            my mission.


In article <1k46koINN462@hamal.usc.edu>,
Citizen mead@hamal.usc.edu (Dick Mead) writes :
>Has anyone used one of the Sampo 20 inch color monitors, as advertised
>in MacWeek ads? Mac Direct has an 8-bit system for about $1300.00 and
>I am curious as to the quality. I wonder if it supports multiple
>resolution modes with another video card, or is it a single fixed
>freq monitor?

  Anybody out there other than me see this posting and immediately think of
the turkey that Joel and the 'bots roasted last week?

  I was tempted to save this posting, then immediately delete it and forget
that I ever read it.

  And if this posting makes no sense, then hey, it makes no sense... :)

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From: sandya@hpfcmdd.fc.hp.com (Sandy A)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:15:05 GMT
Subject: LaCie SilverScanner
Organization: HP Mechanical Design Division
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Summary: Availability of SS II      
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

In December I bought a LaCie SilverScanner I, bundled with Adobe
Photoshop, Color Studio and Read It.  Liked it all.  However, when LaCie
came out with the SilverScanner II, I decided to take advantage of the 30
day satisfaction guarantee and trade the SS I for a II.  They offer the
same software/scanner combinations as with the SS I; all prices are $200
higher.

I called them Monday and arranged to send back the scanner; upon receipt
they'll credit my account the price of the scanner alone ($500 off
scanner/software package).  I then ordered an SS II, which they said I
would get in about a week.

Tuesday morning I fedexed the scanner.  Tuesday afternoon LaCie called and
said it would be a month to 5 weeks before they could ship, due to orders
taken at MacWorld.

I still have a scanner ordered from them, but can cancel the order if
necessary.  Since I have to wait a month I may take another look at other
scanners, such as the HP.

That's the situation; here's what I don't like about it:

* I bought the scanner in part because of the unconditional 30-day money
  back guarantee.  When I arranged the return, I was surprised to learn that
  "once I opened the software, it can't be returned."  That wasn't a problem
  since I wanted to keep it, but if I decide to cancel my order, I'm 
  apparently stuck with the software.  And I can't sell it, because it
  says "bundled version only, to be sold only with hardware" on the box.
  
  At minimum, I think they should have told my the software wasn't covered
  under the guarantee.  However, it's hard to evaluate the scanner without
  using the software bundled with it!

* I don't like the fact that while apparently many people in the company
  knew the availability situation, the person who took my order didn't.
  If I had know the wait would be a month I would have tried to arrange to
  keep the scanner longer.

* I would have appreciated it if they had told me Dec. 29 (when I ordered
  the SS I) that they would be introducing the II soon.  I would have
  waited for the II, thus avoiding the additional shipping charges.

It's not that I'm terribly upset with LaCie.  They told me I could keep
the SS I until I got the II (even though it would have been beyond the 30
days).  Unfortunately, fedex had the scanner by then.  The customer
service guy told me they were switching to a new computer system soon.
(That's nice, but it doesn't help now.)  I also know that it hasn't been
that long that they've sold their products directly only (that is, you
can't buy LaCie stuff from places like MacWarehouse) and they may still be
working out the bugs in their processes.

I'd like to know if other people have had similar/better/worse experiences
with this company.  Also, the documentation I got with the SS I was pretty
lame (wrong page numbers in table of contents, for example).  They now
have new documentation.  Is it better?

Also, if anyone has recommendations on other scanners, I'm interested in
hearing them.

Thanks in advance for any advice/comments.

Sandy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: aldrich@nosc.mil (Timothy M. Aldrich)
Subject: Re: Desoldering for Mac IIsi upgrade
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:20:38 GMT

Sorry, but I missed the posts that started this thread.  What is this 
"upgrade" for the IIsi?  Does it work on all IIsi or only some?

Response by e-mail would be prefered.

- Tim Aldrich
  (aldrich@mycroft.nosc.mil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: louislam@iastate.edu (Louis C Lam)
Subject: Backing up to a VHS tape?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:03:57 GMT

My friend's instructor told her that he is backing up his PC's data
to an ordinary VHS tape. I assume this requires some sort of interface
and a hi-fi VCR (cux it's digital).

Does similar technology exist for the Mac? I can't afford a tape drive
and I don't wanna use >150 floppy disks to back up my HD.

Louis Lam
louislam@iastate.edu
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Brian Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New Mac, Especially Powerbooks
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:20:05 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

lreiter@jade.tufts.edu (Lowell B. Reiter) writes:

>There is plenty of info out their on the new Centris and Quadras, but
>I've heard little about the new PowerBooks.  What is coming out?

    Not much... see below.

>I heard there was a PowerBook 165c coming out that has a built in color
>screen. Is this ture?  Are there new color duos coming out?

    According to what has been said by Apple, the only new Powerbook is
the 165c, which is identical to a 160 except it uses a color super-twist
display that apparantly not too many people are impressed with. There
are other owerbooks on the horizon, but don't expect anything else
before late summer - early fall.

>Are there new powerbooks coming out that can use the new 2.8 MB floppies
>like new IBMs have?

    Nope. And I doubt there will be. Apple doesn't see to like it. The
big talk is really about new powerbooks having PCMCIA slots.

-Hades
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