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From: rrizzo@star-trek.bbn.com (Ron Rizzo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine
Subject: Rosamund Bernier on Joan Miro
Date: 3 Sep 1992 16:15:13 GMT
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Keywords: Miro, Rosamund Bernier



Last night a local PBS station (Channel 44, 10pm, for dwellers in eastern MASS)
broadcast the videotape of a talk by Rosamund Bernier on Joan Miro given in an
auditorium at NYC's Metropolitan Museum.

I was surprised to find it was very good, and engaging throughout, despite the
potentially lethal format of lecture-cum-slides, the superficial attributes of
Ms. Bernier (bedecked like a fashion house magnate with baubles & billowing
floral print dress, extremely chatty & almost absurdly self-confident) and a
vague half-memory that she was an annoying self-defined art celebrity.

Each of the many gossipy tidbits about and quotes from Miro were interesting and
could be related to his work and aims.  Without ever needing to pause, she threw
fistfuls of anecdotes & observations at the audience, all succinct, connected,
and well-said.

Until yesterday I found it hard to sustain an interest in any of Miro's work and
I couldn't  see how his stated (or implied) artistic aims could so fully engage
him as a painter.  What did all that miniature psychoanalytical heraldry floating
on a pond of blandly brushed color have to do with pigment, surface, image-making?

I was struck by how bright and articulate Bernier is.  She also seems to have known
a number of top 20th-century European artists over a period of many years.

At the end of the program there was a brief ad about videotapes of her other
talks.  Has anyone screened any of them?  Has she written anything?

Regards,
Ron
Xref: sparky rec.arts.fine:622 alt.cyberpunk:3939 alt.cult-movies:6963
From: shaun@octel.com (Ein keine nichtmusik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine,alt.cyberpunk,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: looking for an anthology of H. R. Giger
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:55:10 GMT
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.

In article <Bt783s.41u@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> cpw@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca writes:
>I have just been through the library  and I can't
>find any book with the collected works of H. R. Giger.
>
>I am very interested in the conceptual foundations of this
>work, as well as finding a collection of it so that I can
>study it further.

I saw very recently a beautiful book of Giger's (sp) collected works.  It's
about 24"x18" or something, very large and very heavy.  It contains lots of
his earlier work, including sketches and pencil drawings, text, and photos
of Giger with a variety of interesting people, including Otto Waalkes (sp),
the German comedian.  (!)  There are lots and lots of glossy full-page prints
from Aliens and other places.  Highly recommended.  It's about $80 if I 
remember correctly, and is called "Biomechanics" or something.  Ask at
the counter of your favorite (hopefully non-chain) bookstore; I'm sure they'd
be happy to special order it for you if they don't have it in stock.

-- 
shaun@octel.com  ||  They lie, lie, lie and over simplify, I can't stannum; 
                 ||  They give me the fear.
@Man:  Hey...  You look like a floating disembodied head!
Beej:  Don't we all?
From: ejordan@raphael.UVic.CA (Eric  Jordan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine
Subject: Original art distribution
Date: 29 Aug 92 05:12:53 GMT
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada


	Something I do not understand is why more people are not posting
their artwork to alt.binaries.pictures.fine-art.*s ? I find the potential of
networking incredibly powerful. The ability to take an image that you create and
send it out in a digital form across the net allows anyone to reach a potential
audience larger than would be reached through a show at any prestigious art
gallery. There is relatively little censorship and no need for the standard
"credentials" necessary to get a conventional show - let alone a major one.
	It is not like this is limited to computer art either. Photos of
paintings, sculptures, prints or multi-media works can be scanned in and then
distributed. In some ways "conventional" artworks that have been scanned have an
advantage over computer works. If someone possesses a scan of a "traditional"
work the odds are very low (to non-existent in the case of three dimensional
work) that the work can be reproduced. If someone possesses a computer work then
they have the "original" which they could edit and reproduce as their own with
little or no loss in quality.

	So why are not more people posting their artwork across the net?
	

Eric Jordan
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:18:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Art on Computers, esp. "Painter"
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine

In rec.arts.fine, melynda@titipu.meta.com (Melynda Reid) writes:

>                oil painting and silverpoint. all tools can be misused.
>                the important task is to look intensely and keep on trying
>                to produce art. it takes lots of repetition and abject failure
>                to succeed. enjoy your new toy.
>                                      melynda claire reid 

Boy do I agree with this.  I kept trying to get better by
improving my ability to imagine things to draw.  I did not begin
to make marked improvement until I forced myself to do what I
knew should be done, and that is to draw reality by looking
at it closely.  When I have done this in the past, even my
abstract work has improved.

doug
From: hasn@midway.uchicago.edu (Sheheryar Hasnain)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine
Subject: Advice on MFA
Date: 1 Sep 92 19:18:26 GMT
Organization: University of Chicago

I need some advice.  I was initially an art major but later went on to 
do economics and subsequently an MBA (for practical reasons...I sold out!).
Actually two major reasons that I did not do art were the cost of supplies 
here in the US, and
the limited market in my home country, Pakistan (Islamic rule discouraged
art study and infact at the time the govt closed down the two major schools
of art in the city (Karachi)). In any case, now about 9 years later, working 
full time (in finance/accounting), I am attempting to revive my creative side 
by taking some courses in drawing and photo with continuing ed at the
University of Chicago.  I also bought a new guitar and have been practicing 
the scales pretty regularly (trying to get my fingers in the shape they
were in during college).  In addition I have started to write short stories
again and they seem to be coming along pretty well. Telling from the 
satisfaction I feel from these recent activities, I would like to get an MFA. 
The problem is two fold: (1) (Little)Time, and (2) (No) Portfolio. 
Obviously I would like to go part time but I dont know how many places offer
MFAs part time.  Also, does any MFA program offer financing/aid?
Most importantly, I have a pretty skimpy portfolio comprising of some short
stories, a few guitar pieces and some charcoal and pen sketches.  Do MFA
programs require extensive portfolios?  Do they consider people with my 
background (econ/business)?  I'll probably be in Chicago for the next few years
so I am interested in Columbia College.  Off all my "hobbies" I think I would
like to go into drawing/photography, general visual stuff.
Any advice would be appreciated. Thanks.
  



 
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From: arw4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Aaron R Wininger)
Subject: Robert Taylor
Reply-To: arw4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Aaron R Wininger)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:51:58 GMT

Does anyone know where I can get posters/prints of Robert Taylor's combat
aircraft paintings?

Thanks,
Aaron

Aaron R. Wininger, Carnivore                 Columbia Plasma Physics Laboratory
arw4@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu                                 Columbia University
wininger@cuplvx.ap.columbia.edu                              New York, NY 10027
      'That which does not kill us, makes us stronger.'  -Nietzche
Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine
From: sorsha@wam.umd.edu (Laurie Beth Brunner)
Subject: painting on rice paper
Keywords: Miro, Rosamund Bernier
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:34:43 GMT


I have a couple of rice paper lanterns (round, to put over bare bulbs) that
I would like to paint.  However, I know that it is extremely fragile stuff;
I once received a letter on rice paper, and it almost disintegrated when I
accidentally spilled some water on it.  

Is there any good way to paint rice paper?  Any special paints I should use
or avoid?  They give a nice quality of light by themselves, but white is so
empty...I HAVE to do something with it. :)  E-mail suggestions, please.
Thanks!


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From: rrizzo@star-trek.bbn.com (Ron Rizzo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine
Subject: Stolen Picassos, drug plot linked
Date: 31 Aug 1992 23:10:49 GMT
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Keywords: Picasso, art theft, drugs, Colombia

[quoted without permission from the 8/26/92 Boston Globe]


		STOLEN PICASSOS, DRUG PLOT LINKED


BOGOTA - Authorities have found what may be two Picassos stolen from US museums
and used in a money laundering scheme, police said yesterday.  The paintings,
"The Woman of the Hat" and "The Cubist Guitar," were used as collateral against
the debts of drug money launderers, police said.  It said the two works, painted
in the 1930s and valued at $20 million, reportedly were bought for $200,000.  Art 
experts from the Picasso Committee in Paris will inspect the paintings to determine
their authenticity.  Colombian authorities and members of the Drug Enforcement
Administration discover3ed the paintings during an investigation of a wordlwide
money laundering ring.  The communique did not give details.  (AP)


*********************************************************************************

Does anyone know which musems the paintings were stolen from?

It's been speculated that the theft of 7? paintings from Boston's Isabella Stuart
Gardner Museum a few years ago (including Rembrandt's "Christ on the Sea of Gallilee")
may've been commissioned either by a drug lord or a wealthy but unscrupulous collector.

Regards,
Ron
Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine
From: mph@ln.nimh.nih.gov (Mike Hall)
Subject: Louvre showing Toulous Letrec?
Organization: National Institute of Mental Health
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 01:29:29 GMT

Hi all!

A friend of mine asked me if I could find out whether there is
or is going to be a showing of Toulouse Letrec (excuse the spelling,
I am a barbarian) paintings in the Louvre.  Does anyone know?
Anybody have the address of someone in paris?

- Mike Hall

"It is possible to believe that all that the human mind has ever accomplished
is but the dream before the awakening..." - H. G. Wells
Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine,alt.cyberpunk,alt.cult-movies
From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: looking for an anthology of H. R. Giger
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:19:30 GMT

In article <24AUG199214544783@juliet.caltech.edu> tychay@juliet.caltech.edu (Chay, Terrence Y.) writes:
>
>i'm going to say it....
>why don't we try to telnet to the library of congress catalog?
>    telnet dra.com
>
>for those of us too lazy or unable to do this....
>
>    [ stuff deleted]
>

Thanks for the list.  I wonder how often they update the info though,
since it's a bit incomplete.  Doesn't appear to mention the English
translations of _Alien_ and _Necronomicon_ published by Morpheus
International.  It also doesn't mention _HR Giger ARh+_ (had the title
slightly wrong in an earlier posting) which is published by Taschen,
a German publisher.  The ISBN is 3-89450-157-x and it cost me about $10
as I recall.  It was published in 1991 and is a retrospective of Giger's
career, containing excerpts from _Alien_, _Biomechanics_, _Necronomicon_,
and probably some of the others as well.  It includes a list of Giger
books up to 1991 which seem to be:

		A Rh+, 1971 (anyone know if this is an earlier version
				of the book I am getting this from?)
		Passagen, 1974
		Catalogue to the Giger Exhibition, 1976
		H.R. Giger's Necronomicon, 1977
		Giger's Alien, 1980
		H.R. Giger N.Y. City, 1981
		H.R. Giger, Retrospektive 1964-1984, 1984
		H.R. Giger's Necronomicon II, 1985
		H.R. Giger's Biomechanics, 1988

and to this we can add:

		HR Giger ARh+, 1991

Hope this all helps somewhat.

	-- Stewart "dearly wants a poster of 'The Spell II'" Tame

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From: gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine
Subject: Re: Original art distribution
Date: 4 Sep 92 02:14:41 GMT
Organization: mydog in exile

On the contrary, it's _possible_ to acquire and provide enough
information to give a faithful visual representation of a painting.
Using holography, you can even represent the three-dimensional
structure of the surface.  But would it be the painting?
-- 
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( 1238 Blg. Grn. Sta.,  NY NY 10274 * 718.273.5556 )
From: daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:21:33 GMT
Subject: Re: looking for an anthology of H. R. Giger
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.fine


If you want to see Giger's stuff, be prepared for very 
literal opbscenity.  I love giger's art, so do not
mistake that I mean obscene in a negative way.
But I cannot deny that much of his stuff evokes
in me a very extreme sense of moral revulsion.
I expect that this is often what he wants.

Very disturbing art...


doug
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: chil@fraser.sfu.ca (Keith Lim)
Subject: Re: Who's got the best beam-out?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:24:37 GMT

jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell) writes:

>Hmmmm... Out of the Federation sparkle, Q flash, Ferengi swirl,
>(is it just me or does this sound like an order placed in
>10-Forward?), Borg tracer-fade, and anything else we've seen,
>what do people like the best?

The Ferengi swirl is my favourite. Note also that the Ferengi
transporter is fine enough to transport people while leaving their
clothes behind (Menage a Troi), so it's obviously more than just a
pretty little effect. (Of course, building something for its looks
only is unprofitable, so the nice spiral must be just a
fortituous side-effect.)

Fastest-working transporter I can think of belongs to the Sheliak
Corporate (The Ensigns of Command.) I don't recall what exactly its
effect was, just that it was extremly fast.

While we're on this bandwidth-wasting thread...

The Romulans have the best-looking ships. Close runners-ups are the
smuggler's ship in Unification I (blown up by the Enterprise), and
the marines' ship in Aliens (ok, so it's not ST:TNG.) The Borg ship
is extremly cool-looking too; however, this is largely due to it
looking so different from "conventional" ships, not from any aspect
of its design per se.

Best weapon: bar none, the Solari weapon in Loud As A Whisper. It
burned off the flesh from the bones, leaving the skeleton for an
instance before the skeleton itself vaporised. Really very picturesque.
Runner-up: the Klingon Transformer-type weapon put together from 
pieces of their uniform in Heart of Glory.

Favourite ensign: Ens. Sonya Gomez. (Why don't they bring her back?)
Very close second would be Ens. Ro Laren, but semi-regular characters
don't count, do they?

Guess we could go on with Favourite Humanoid Alien, Funniest Humanoid
Alien, Favourite Non-Humanoid Alien (not a great deal of choice here:
the Antedians, the Sheliak Corporate, the Jareda [never seen], Armus,
Nagilum, the Calamarian, the Nanites, all the Tinkerbells and Glitter
Creatures that function as Tacked-On Dangers...if there are more, I
can't think of them right now.) Not today though, I'll stop here.

-- 
Keith_Lim@sfu.ca   Simon Fraser University, Burnaby B.C., V5A 1S6, Canada
Forum (Cog Sci); Senate; CDSU; ASC. ...but all opinions are my own only.

"Oh yeah, I remember you...the soup girl."
"No, the *soap* girl...S-*O*-P-E."         --from "Married...With Children"

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: chew@accel.aa.washington.edu (Gilbert Chew)
Subject: Re: Sexism and Plunging Necklines (Was Re: What would you do ... ) 
Followup-To: Re: Sexism and Plunging Necklines
Reply-To: chew@accel.aa.washington.edu (Gilbert Chew)
Organization: U of Wash Dept of Aeronautics and Astronautics
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 17:50:20 GMT

Actually, if you believe that Troi and Riker are based on Ilia (sp?)
and Decker of STTMP, then the Betazoid culture should be more
"sexually mature" :) than our own (just like the Deltans).  Thus,
Betazoid clothes may be more revealing than Earther stuff, and
Deanna might just be more comfortable in those outfits.  It's all
kinda sorta consistent with her supposed background, if you
think about it like that.

Actually, I'm suprised she never wears outfits like the one
she loaned Tasha in "Where No One Has Gone Before!"

Another possibility is that, as an empath, she senses *intense*
*pleasure* whenever she bends over a console (or whatever)
:) .   Who knows, just being around the guys and sighing
heavily might give her a buzz...

--Gilbert
From: TheMadDoctor@cup.portal.com (Shane Derek Killian)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Worst TNG episodes (was Re: Justice)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 16:34:16 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>"Qpid" the most vile?  I think you're overlooking "Imaginary Friend" (which,
>probably not coincidentally, had Alexander in it).  Truly, the absolute,
>god-awfulest ST episode EVER.  Bad plot, bad acting, bad for us!

That episode, I'm almost certain, was either written by the Marquis de
Sade or by Dr. Clayton Forrester.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.current
From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: DS9: Who will star and what is it about?
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 10:31:38 GMT

>hist1261@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>
>>(Rick Lippens) writes:
>>> Exactly who will be starring on Star Trek: Deep Space Nine?
>>> Any of Star Trek: The Next Generation cast members on permanent/re-occuring
>>> roles?

>>For someone living in a country where they are only screening the second series
>>of The New Generation, could you please elaborate on what exactly is "Star
>>Trek: Deep Space Nine".  Is it a proposed spin-off?  If so, is it going to be
>>a one off  special or a full series?

>>Richard.

In article <1992Sep2.023148.6262@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umlippen@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Rick Lippens) writes:
>Star Trek: Deep Space Nine is the new proposed spinoff of Star Trek and 
                                       ^^^^^^^^
>Star Trek: The Next Generation from Paramount.  This full series will likely
>take over when The Next Generation disappears (and a rumor circulating up
>here in Canada indicates that it may be sooner than we were originally led
>to believe).  It will hopefully be an interesting change for Star Trek
>fans, as it will stray from the conventional norms that we are used to
>(i.e. no more Enterprise, no more tranquility, etc.)...

All true, except that it is no longer proposed, and will begin
broadcasting in January.  It will be broadcast at the same time TNG is
broadcast.  As for who will be the stars of the new show, at least two
articles in the last day in rec.arts.startrek.current have listed
them.
-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: tm@jyu.fi (Timo Mannikko)
Subject: Short question about Lt.Saavik
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:42:36 GMT

I have seen only two ST movies ( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( ), TWOK a few years
ago, and TSFS just recently. My question is: Was the actress, who played
Lt.Saavik, changed between these movies? Or, did she just change her
hairdo? :-)

- Timo
From: mfd@aber.ac.uk (Fran Disbury)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Patrick Stewart
Summary: Picard-leching
Keywords: Sejanus and HOT property !
Date: 28 Aug 92 08:51:14 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

Eileen Simpson remembers PS in an earlier role as Sejanus from I, Claudius.
The female he was 'dating' was Livilla, sister of Claudius. 

If anyone wants to relive bits they may have forgotten ;-) the book has the
same name as the TV series and was by Robert Graves who makes a fascinating 
(ooops :-) read anyway and as ever, the book has bits in that didn't make
the screen.  My copy is published by Penguin, UK - you may have to check 
whether it's still available in US.

May I also recommend the sequel Claudius the God - there are some X-rated
bits in that one too !

Fran  

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: ricky@adx.adelphi.edu (Ricky Glass)
Subject: Re: Patrick Stewart
Organization: Adelphi University
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:37:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.014704.22151@nntp.uoregon.edu> eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.040230.16784@adx.adelphi.edu> ricky@adx.adelphi.edu (Ricky Glass) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug26.202832.9190@fripp.ri.cadre.com> rss@gooey.eng-sun w

[ text deleted ]
>
>He had a affair with a female character that would send smoke out of your
>ears (at least it did mine). 
And mine and my wifes. :-)

>In fact, my mother was visiting, and walked
>into the room during one of his scenes with this woman and I blushed beet
>red--not because of what was on the screen, but because of where I was in
>terms of, ah, following the show.  
Caught you drooling on the sofa, huh? :-)

>I was a grown up person with children of my own, so I decided that anyone
>who could involve me in the "action" to that degree must be a good actor,
>and I made a note of his name.  Check this out, Stewart fans!
I think he is excellent.  By all means, check it out.

Ricky


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From: Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: DS9: Who will star?
Date: Fri,  4 Sep 92 06:06:59 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <1992Aug31.194302.10476@waikato.ac.nz>
  <1992Sep2.023148.6262@ccu.umanitoba.ca>

Just to get it straight early on, the Avery Brooks character is spelled
"Sisko."

PAD