HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pg@sanitas.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Subject: Re: mcvert, binhex, file forks tutorial
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:49:30 GMT

bryan d oakley (ctrbdo@iapa.uucp%mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu) wrote:
: A brief tutorial for a new mac owner, please:
: 
: If I take my .hqx file(s) and convert to MacBinary and somehow manage
: to get these files to my mac, are they ready to go or do the
: MacBinary files require yet another round of translation to become
: executables?  And, what's the deal with the forks?  Just what is a
: fork, and what is it doing in my files...

In stark contrast to a Unix file, which is flat and featureless,
a Mac file in highly structured.  It consists of two (possibly empty)
forks: the Data Fork, which contains (for example) the plain text
of a document, and the Resource Fork, which contains things such as
Icons, Window definitions, Fonts, and executable code segments.

The Resource Fork of a simple text file is generally empty; the Data
Fork of an executable program is generally empty.

MacBinary is a binary archiving of a Mac file's Data and Resource forks
and essential directory Information (3 things) into a pure data fork file.
It's like a tar in that it preserves creation dates and Creator ID and 
File Type, which serve some of the purpose of a Unix access mode.
: 
:     -- and sure enough --
: 
:     % ls -l Moria*
:     -rw-rw----  1 ctrbdo     330240 Dec 29 09:21 Moria_1.0.cpt.bin
: 
: So now what do I do?

The .bin denotes MacBinary.  The communication program that transfers
the file to the Mac will most likely undo this.  The .cpt is a
Compact Pro compressed archive.  Compact Pro (shareware) or 
Stuffit Expander (freeware) will undo that.

Get info-mac/util/stuffit-expander-30.hqx from sumex-aim.stanford.edu.
: 
: If all of this is in a FAQ somewhere, just point me in the right
: direction.   Many thanks.

It is, but it's expired at our site, anyway.  Wait till next year.
From: hongyu@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Henry L. S.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Problem in opening WP fiel in Word 5.0
Date: 31 Dec 92 04:41:01 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I tried to open WP 5.1 for DOS file on  a IIcx and IIci by using the Word 5.0. Whenever I pressed the  botton to choose the WP formate, the Mac crashed.
Anyone can help me out this problem? Or this is a bug of Word 5.0?
Henry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Sgt. Kleper)
Subject: Re: StartUpScreen under System 7
Reply-To: sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 22:20:07 GMT

Just don't try having a startup screen with Macsbug installed! Trust
me, I know!! Maybe it was some other kind of conflict, but I think it
was Macsbug and the startupscreen that made my mac bomb at startup.
From: rudolph@unixg.ubc.ca (Christopher E Rudolph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Need Advice on a good HARD DRIVE!
Date: 3 Jan 93 06:33:41 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Summary: Can anyone suggest a good Quantum Mechanism in the 100-200MB range?
Keywords: hard drive quantum 100 to 200 mb

It is time for me to purchase a new hard drive.  My finances allow me to
purchase in the 100 to 200 mb range, and I want to buy a quantum mechanism
w/ a low noise level and a decent access time.

Can anyone suggest a good drive to buy (ie. Company name, phone # etc ... )

Thanks in advance,

Chris Rudolph (Computer Science, UBC) <rudolph@unixg.ubc.ca>
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: leec4@rpi.edu (CD LEE)
Subject: Re: disk copy utility
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:19:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.100704.9427@eskimo.com>, smill@eskimo.com (Steven
Miller) wrote:
> 
> 
>  Does anyone know of a mac utility that will copy non-mac disks?
> I need to make multiple copies of a non-mac disk using my mac.
> Will something like CopyII Mac work, if set to bit copy?
> thanks for the help!
> -- 
> Steven M. Miller       		"The history of music evolution is
> smill@eskimo.celestial.com          not the history of nice guys"
>                          		-- Anthony Braxton
> Electronic Music Coordinator - Cornish College of the Arts, Seattle WA

You can use Apple's "DiskCopy". It's track by track copy.
So you can even duplicate DOS or whatever disk.
You also can save that image file.

You can get from info-mac and ftp.apple.com

CD LEE, Chun-Da Lee                                 leec4@rpi.edu
ITS Consultant, ITS=Information Technology Service  CD_Lee@MTS.RPI.EDU
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
From: tompkins@dream11.UUCP (Eric L. Tompkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Wanted comment on the Micron Xceed Color30
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 20:02:35 GMT
Organization: Dream Engineering
Reply-To: tompkins@dream11.UUCP (Eric L. Tompkins)
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <Bzrz9A.51u@rice.edu> (comp.sys.mac.misc), owhadi@gale.rice.edu (Eric Owhadi) writes:
> Could you tell me if you are satisfied with your xceed color30 card ?
> 
> Eric.
> 
> owhadi@geophysics.rice.edu 
> 
> 

Absolutely.  I've been using it since Jun 92. Both hardware and software seem solid as a rock.  I have had no problems
attributable to the Xceed.  I run Sys 7.1, too many extensions and CPs, and use a
Leading Technology "PC Partner" SVGA 14" monitor (you'll need to build or buy a custom
cable to use a VGA monitor - the Xceed pinout is not the same as a Mac II.)  I also installed the Xceed Gray-Scale
Adapter.  Very impressive.  It turns the SE/30 built-in monitor into a 256 gray-scale
monitor (gray scale only works when external color monitor is not attached.)

Eric

-------------------------------------
Eric L. Tompkins				Internet: dream11@ibmpcug.co.uk
Dream Engineering			  CompuServe: 100013,1444

"Do not search for the truth, merely cease to cherish opinions."	
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: arie@eecs.umich.edu (Arie Covrigaru)
Subject: Re: OK to pass diskette through airport X-ray?
Reply-To: arie@eecs.umich.edu
Organization: AI Lab, The University of Michigan
	<1992Dec23.083627.2716@tdb.uu.se>
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:24:11 GMT

I have passed floppy disks, hard disks and a PowerBook 170 through
several airport X-ray devices in various countries in America and
Europe and never ever had a problem with the Mac or the media. I
don't even bother tell anyone that I have a computer, just let it
run through.
--


Arie.

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| Phone: (313)994-8887           |  Room 149, Advanced Technology Bldg. |
| Internet: arie@eecs.umich.edu  |  1101 Beal Ave., Ann Arbor, MI 48109 |
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Subject: mac.ftp.list question
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 16:07:25 GMT

Is there an update to mgleason@cse.unl.edu (Mike Gleason)'s December 04, 1991
mac.ftp.list?  I liked his posting of this list and with the changes that
have been happening (Like rascal.ics.utexas.edu going by by.) it is in need
of a serious update.  The 'finger' says he is back so have I missed a posting?
is the new list at sumex yet?  IS there a new list?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: david@sherpa.UUCP (Dave Quarles)
Subject: Re: StyleWriter II
Organization: Roger's House; Gulfport, Fl
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 06:27:13 GMT

> Does anyone have any specs, info, rumors, or anything else on the new
> StyleWriter II (code-named Speed Racer)? My dad was going to get me a
> StyleWriter for Christmas, but I had heard about the StyleWriter II and wanted
> to wait and see about it. Any info will be appreciated.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I heard that it is supposed to be somewhat faster, same dpi, and possibly
a little lower in price.

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-   Dave   =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: quark and frame
Date: 31 Dec 1992 21:23:40 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

In article <C03716.Ks@iapa.uucp%mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu>
ctrbdo@iapa.uucp%mailhost.ecn.uoknor.edu (bryan d oakley) writes:
>Anybody know the current educational prices for quark express and
>framemaker? 

I believe FrameMaker is $195.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard
From: wilmott@remus.rutgers.edu (ray wilmott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Drivin' me nuts! ("in use")
Keywords: help!
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:43:26 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


----

Hi all. At least once a day (usually more) my Mac makes me want to
punch it. Here's the deal - I'm using a IIci and run under Sys 7.0.
I use Pagemaker and Freehand frequently, so I keep them always open
for easy access. Quite often I find that I open a file in PM or FH,
and then at some point later in the day want to delete it. I drag it
to the trash and go to empty trash, but get a "trash cannot be
emptied, file is in use" message. This would be desirable if the file
were still *open*, but this happens even with files that I have
closed hours before. It seems that the system is remembering that
"at sometime today the file was opened; therefore it must still be
in use". Bzzzzz! Wrong! It's not really "in use"; I want it deleted;
stop hassling me!

So, does anybody have perhaps a command/option key combo that will
*force* the trash to empty, regardless of what the system *thinks*
it should do? Or maybe a ResEdit hack to get around this problem?
True, it's not that big of a deal - I just have to wait until I
"quit" PM or FH and *then* empty the trash. But just the same,
it's drivin' me nuts! :-)



			-Ray

wilmott@remus.rutgers.edu
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sunday, 3 Jan 1993 01:24:23 CST
From: <U53606@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,chi.forsale,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers
Subject:     TelePort FullFax sale $125




  Hi I've got a TelePort FullFax for sale. Full send  and recieve group 3 fax.
  Also a 2400 bps modem.



  Compatible with all ADB macs. (SE and above) Works great with the PowerBooks
  too. as all o{riginal instructions and all original hardware. Comes with fax
  and modem software.


      Please send all replies to the above address.


      thanks, paul
From: bgrubb@dante.nmsu.edu (GRUBB)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Mac books/System 7.1 fonts
Date: 31 Dec 92 21:07:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM

Just got off the phone with Apple technical support for system 7.1 and
as I have been stating for over a month THERE ARE NOT TO SUPPOSSED TO
BE ANY FONTS IN THE SYSTEM FILE!
In fact the person I talked to stated "We [Apple] are telling people to remove
ALL the fonts from the system file in system 7.1.  ...when upgrading from a
older system the installer leaves the old system fonts in the system file."  
Though I could not get him to admit this is a bug in the installer from the
evidence it is QED (Progression of logic) that there is a bug.
A QED progression is a general true statement followed by a specific true
statement and then a conclusion from the the two statements
example:
All men are mortal
Charles Darwin was a man
Therefore Charles Darwin was mortal

The QED in the case of the System 7.1 installer is as follows 
1) Bug: a programing error; error in syntax or logic; the program does not
do what it is supposed to do( Dictionary of Computer Terms 3rd ed.)
2) System 7.1 install leaves fonts in the system file which should not
be there. (From the Apple represenitive)
3) Therefore there is a bug in the System 7.1 installer.

"Eliminate the impossible and what ever remains, no matter how improbable,
is the truth" -- Sir Arthur Conan Doyle through Sherlock Holmes in The 
Adventure of the Beryl Coronet, The Adventure of the Blanched Soldier, Sign 
of Four and The Adventure of the Bruce-Partington Plans.
From: lipa@camis.Stanford.EDU (Bill Lipa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Sumex is in need of a restucturing
Date: 31 Dec 1992 20:26:13 GMT
Organization: Stanford University School of Medicine
NNTP-Posting-Host: camis.stanford.edu


I think your comments are very reasonable. I have been meaning to do a
reorganization for some time now, but time has been lacking. Hopefully
we will be able to do this early in the new year.

Bill Lipa
info-mac-request@sumex-aim.stanford.edu
From: jdsiegel@garnet.berkeley.edu (Joel Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Mouse lock-button-down software available?
Date: 24 Dec 1992 09:32:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Some commercial trackballs (and maybe multi-button mice) have
buttons that "lock" and I think are usually configurable through
software.  

My question is, is there software out there that will do the same
for the PowerBook trackball buttons?  Since the machine has two of
'em it would be nice to be able to configure one as a "lock down"
button.

-- 
Joel Siegel <jdsiegel@garnet.berkeley.edu    jdsiegel@ocf.berkeley.edu>
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in
affairs which properly concern them."  - Paul Valery
From: owhadi@gale.rice.edu (Eric Owhadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Care and feeding of Desktop file
Keywords: system 7.0.1 desktop file
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:59:14 GMT
Organization: Rice University

Hi, 

If you want to clean up the desktop file of any volume (HardDisk or Floppy) you will fust have to hold down command and option keys before the volume mount (when you restart your mac for HardDisk, or when you insert Floppies fot floppies).

Then a window should appear, asking you if you want to rebuild the desktop.

Say yes, and the ressources of deleted file will be deleted by the system.

Eric

owhadi@geophysics.rice.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Neil_MacAskill@mindlink.bc.ca (Neil MacAskill)
Subject: Help re price for used Mac SE
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 06:39:09 GMT

I would like to make an informed decision regarding upgrading my computing
capabilities. I have a Mac SE with 4 MB of memory and extended keyboard and
mouse, in ther words, the basic standard Mac SE with added memory.

What is a fair market price for used equipment of this sort?  Your opinion
matters to me so please feel free to give me any info you can.

Any currency you are comfortable with is fine with me too.

Thanks very much.


SIG? What's a SIG?
Neil MacAskill
B.C., Canada

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
Subject: Re: Sumex is in need of a restucturing
Organization: Starfleet Headquarters: San Francisco
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 04:19:42 GMT

There are other problems with umich's directory structure:

(1) It's too deep.  I'm not crazy about the 'game' directory structure
being broken down into 'space', 'arcade', 'adventure', and so forth,
especially since most games fall under more than one category (where
do you put an arcade-style space adventure?).  Perhaps just a text
directory file listing each games along with the 'classes' it falls
under would be preferable.

(2) The directory names are too long.  On sumex, if I want to get into
the control panel directory, I type "cd cp".  On umich, if I want to
get there, I type "cd system.extensions/cdev".  This can get very
annoying when I'm grabbing a lot of files, especially since I keep
misspelling "extentions" instead.

(3) The files frequently have no information about what they are on
them.  If I see a file with an interesting name, I have to download it
to my Mac and unbinhex/unstuff it before I can find out what it is; if
I grab a file from Sumex, I can just read the hqx file on my Unix
machine before I download it to my Mac, saving me a lot of time if I
decide I don't want it after all.

Ideally, I'd like to see the people who run sumex and umich get
together and make sure they each have all the latest versions of the
same stuff; it's not like they're competing!

-- 
_/_/_/  Brian Kendig                             Je ne suis fait comme aucun
/_/_/  bskendig@netcom.com                de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire
_/_/                            n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent.
  /  Nolite te bastardes     Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre.
 /    carborundorum.                                             -- Rousseau
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:18:34 IST
From: Yair Elharrar <X68442@BARILVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Time-Line

I'm looking desperately for software that'll give me a "Time Line" like
the one in MacProject Pro. Is MacProject the only tool that does this?

time line example:
     |===Jan===|===Feb===|===Mar===|===Apr===|===Jun===|===Jul===|
            |---------|           |----------------------|
           16 design  17         28 secondary design     7
                  |------|                      |----------|
                 10 Prog 1                     12 Progr.   13
                         |--------|
                         1 Alpha  28
                                                           |-----|
                                                           13    30
                                                            Beta

What I need is something configurable - I need control over the
look of the lines, text style etc., and preferrably output in some
standard format (PICT?).

Any ideas?

               Yair Elharrar
               Bar-Ilan University
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From: jdsiegel@garnet.berkeley.edu (Joel Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.invest
Subject: Re: History was made today...
Date: 23 Dec 1992 10:02:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec17.170232.14346@netnews.louisville.edu> harpe@netnews.louisville.edu (Mike Harpe) writes:
>I normally don't respond to these kinds of postings, but I was sufficiently
>moved by the news that I do have to make some comments.  Note at the start,
>I am a true Mac believer.  I have about $5K set aside to buy my dream Mac
>in the next few months.....

> [deletions....]

>IBM has always been able
>to assume control of a situation by forcing upgrades on customers.  They had
>built their entire sales strategy around planned obsolescence coupled with
>being the only source for replacements.  

That sounds a lot like what Apple is doing... right...now.
Crippling machines to meet a price point (IIvx, etc.), short-lived
machines (LC -> LCII -> LCn), and so on.  Perhaps Apple should
learn from IBM's example, and not learn *by* IBM's example.


-- 
Joel Siegel <jdsiegel@garnet.berkeley.edu    jdsiegel@ocf.berkeley.edu>
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in
affairs which properly concern them."  - Paul Valery
From: ollef@sics.se (Olle Furberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: MacDraw II wont run on quadra 950
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:55:52 GMT
Organization: Satellite Image in Kiruna Corporation

In <1992Dec28.145227.25653@linus.mitre.org> jw@mitre.org (Joe Whalley) writes:

>My copy of MacDraw II that used to work on my Mac IIx
>gives a "Not enough memory to open" error when I try to
>open a new or exisiting document. 

Sounds like your screen is to deep and/or too big. I can't use
MacDraw on my 21" screen with 24 bits color; I have to decrease
the monitor settings to 1 bit B/W to be sure that MacDraw works.

According to a Claris technician I've talked with MacDraw keeps an
off-screen pixelmap of the whole screen in memory.


    /Olle
  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: nadeem@wam.umd.edu (Nadeem Malik)
Subject: Font editing
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:15:55 GMT


What is the simplest way to alter a font so that one of the characters
may be changed to a check box.  The change would be in effect on screen
as well as when printing.


-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------
Nadeem Malik                            nadeem@wam.umd.edu
7200 Wisconsin Avenue, Suite 700	voice: (301) 907-9600
Bethesda, MD 20814                      fax:   (301) 926-9312
From: jdsiegel@garnet.berkeley.edu (Joel Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: ** WARNING ** AVOID TIGER SOFTWARE!!!!
Date: 23 Dec 1992 09:51:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Another moral to the mail-order story:  Use a credit card whenever
possible in placing your order.  If there's a problem, call the
credit card issuer and they will usually credit your account and
go after the vendor *themselves*... now who would *you* rather
have on your ass, Joel Siegel or Chase Manhattan??  :-)


-- 
Joel Siegel <jdsiegel@garnet.berkeley.edu    jdsiegel@ocf.berkeley.edu>
"Politics is the art of preventing people from taking part in
affairs which properly concern them."  - Paul Valery
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: cafe@cbnewse.cb.att.com (richard.dib)
Subject: Who sells memory for MacPortable? Price?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:18:34 GMT
Keywords: mac portable memory

Hi There:

Do you know where can I get memory for a Macintosh Portable?  Is the type
of memory that the MacPortable uses "standard"?  If it is, how is it called
(SIMMS?)?

Please Reply to: dib@ihlpe.att.com or to this posting (cafe@cbnewse.att.com)

Thanks in advance!

Richard Dib
AT&T BL
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 01:23:46 CST
From: <U53606@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,chi.forsale,misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Re: TelePort FullFax sale $125
 <92365.010950U53606@uicvm.uic.edu>




>Hi I've got a TelePort FullFax for sale. Full send  and recieve group 3 fax.
 Also a 2400 bps modem.



>Compatible with all ADB macs. (SE and above) Works great with the PowerBooks
 too. as all o{riginal instructions and all original hardware. Comes with fax
 and modem software.


     Please send all replies to the above address.


     thanks, paul






Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: lamont@rtsg.mot.com (Bradley Lamont)
Subject: PowerPC chip for as low as $50 ?!?!?!?!
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:00:23 GMT

I was reading in the Jan issue of Byte that the PowerPC 602 chip is already
out in low quantities and that developers have samples.  They were predicting
systems 4q93 (i believe).

The most astounding fact was that they are expecting the chip to cost as
low as $50.  With the Pentium rumored to cost $500+ per chip, this would
seem to be half the game right there.

If anyone has more info, please let me know,
Brad

Note: I work for Motorola, but I do not speak for them.  
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Wireless Enterprise Systems              lamont@sumter.cso.uiuc.edu
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