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From: cocoa@iat.holonet.net (Elise - little 'e')
Subject: Definition of Sexual Maturity? (was: Would you Shag...)
Organization: The Chocolate Factory
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 02:19:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.165024.26729@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> markn@ssd.comm.mot.com (Mark Nowak) writes:
>Before labelling having sex with a 14-year-old girl as sick, I think
>that values have changes a lot over the years.  Wasn't Juliet 14
>when she married Romeo?  Mayan women married at the age of 16.  Also,
>ever wonder why teenage girls are often so attractive?  It's just 
>evolution at work.  These girls are sexually mature.  They can have
>children and Nature makes them attractive to would-be fathers.  The
>problem with sex with a 14-year-old comes from society's dim view
>of it.  I'd say society is pretty screwed up.
>-- 
>Mark Nowak

How is "sexual maturity" defined?  Are girls "sexually mature" the minute
they begin menstruation?  What about teenage boys?  Are they "sexually
mature" after their first wet dream?

Does being "able" to have sex and father/bear children mean that you are
"mature" enough to engage in it?

Would men be as attracted to teenage girls if the media and the fashion
industry did not portray them as "sexually mature" objects?  Would teenage
girls and boys be as eager to engage in sex if the media did not glamourize
it and to a certain extent (your mileage may vary) promote it?

It's true that women marry/married at younger ages in other times and
cultures.  Those women also worked, raised children and ran households at
those early ages.  Can we honestlty say that the average teenage girl is
competent enough to do those things in our day and age?  My guess/opinion
would be "no."  The rationale that "they are old enough to have sex because
Juliet married Romeo when she was 14" just doesn't cut it.

Just me,

little 'e'

"Between the idea/And the reality
 Between the motion/And the act
 Falls the shadow"


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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: About this: I Had Crabs With Steve
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:10:53 GMT


I'm Sorry Folks, but doesn't this belong in alt.sex or sci.medicine?????

I mean really, body lice are not half as much
trouble as they use to be, and its not like in
the good old day when gasoline or cigarette lighter
fluid was all that was available....

So as a Socially Responsible Poster, let me remind you
that it is NOT a prudent thing to try and solve the problem
by shaving off your body hair and then dousing with lighter fluid.

Ah yes, the Good Old days. I was sitting around the digs
one day, by candle light, tossing the little critters into
the flame, and all of a sudden a spider crept up beside me...

MENSCH! the size comparison FREAKED ME OUT!!!!

ciao
drieux


ps: Oh, Its not those type of CRABS....

	sorry....


ppps: They made me post this...

pppps: there is no pps:, as it was removed for health reasons.


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as they are such a Known Waste Of BandWidth,
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing)
Subject: Re: seeking higher ground
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 22:10:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.210709.17966@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.190241.1603@walter.bellcore.com> nobody writes:
>>In article <1992Jul22.154022.20609@u.washington.edu> intrigue@milton.u.washington.edu (Angelwing) writes:
>>>
>>>Angelwing - How do I get my testosterone level checked?
>>>
>>Buy a ruler and don't shave.
>>
>This is a true story, a famous scientist was doing field research on a
>remote island. Being the methodical type as well as bored out of his mind,
>he weighed the whiskers that came out of his electric razor everyday after
>he shaved...

[.....and he finds out that his beard grew heavier in anticipation of his
girlfriend's visit] 

>Start saving and weighing that leg hair Angelwing. (Well it might work)

Ahahaha ..oh lord, what a picture!  I don't think I care to know anyway. 
But your suggestion is certainly more scientific than John's dipstick. 
Maybe not quite as much fun, though.

Angelwing - "Honey, are you done in there yet?"

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From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Net.Women
Keywords: good looking cute beautiful etc.
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:45:45 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Jul28.222834.13744@med.umich.edu> blackp@med.umich.edu (Jeremy Thomas James) writes:
>
>I believe the reason everyone is here is to figure out how to not be here
>(single that is).

Wrongo, Bunky.  There are lots of us in this group who walked out
of non-singledom to enjoy life again.


-Nance
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att!ihlpk!colucci                               | Trollers discouraged.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)
Subject: Re: long hair
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:22:38 GMT

In article <BRUCE.92Jul17175728@suprenum.supr.scm.liv.ac.uk> bruce@supr.scm.liv.ac.uk (Bruce Stephens) writes:
>So I wear it in a ponytail, because at least that way I can keep it
>under control.

With which you keep it in a ponytail? I tried hard to look for a
"classic" looking solution to this, but..

>Bruce       -- I still haven't aquired the taste for soup with hair in it

..also partly because of this, I just (5 hours ago) clipped 3 inches off
from every side.

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jjj@niksula.hut.fi                          -Petteri J{rvinen
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: palou@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Ignasi Palou-Rivera)
Subject: Re: Used threads
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison, Chemical Engineering
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:57:48
	<1992Jul21.131034.12654@news.acns.nwu.edu>
	<ewillims.711803388@unix1.tcd.ie>
In-reply-to: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie's message of 22 Jul 92 11:09:48 GMT

In article <ewillims.711803388@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:

>	   Absolutely correct, Marianna! And what's more, these things don't
>   just sometimes happen more to women, they ALWAYS happen more to women!
>   It makes me stinking mad when sales people, be they male or female, always
>   turn to serve a man first and then I have to create a scene which irritates
>   me even further as I hate doing it!

Dunno what they do in Ireland, but my experience is usually the
opposite. Especially if your buying 'female_should_buy_that' kind of 
stuff: be it food, towels, curtains, ... Probably in a hardware store 
they serve male customers first, though.

>   What about when delivery men/plumbers/electricians promise that they'll
>   arrive at 09:00 am to deliver/mend/fix as promised and then, because they
>   assume you're a "housewife" with nothing better to do with your life , they
>   turn up several hours later with a really smirking attitude and THEN ask to
>   borrow your phone, which YOU have to pay for, to ring their office to 
>   have a chat. IT STEAMS ME!

Not a female thing, this one! They do that to everybody! 

>   Not to mention the fact that, as I'm only 5 foot 3, when I open my front
>   door to callers they invariably assume that I am a 10 year old with a lower
>   than average IQ and ask "Is your Mummy or Daddy in"? (*SHRIEK*)
>   I am a 25 year old university lecturer for Chrissakes!
>
>
>				   Emma.

Hey, maybe they been reading your posts in soc.singles (-:

Ignasi.

--
Ignasi Palou-Rivera		palou@osnome.che.wisc.edu
Dept. of Chemical Engineering, U. of Wisconsin, Madison.

"He said, 'I been a lot of places
And I seen a lot of things
But, sonny, Iseen one thing beats'em all
I was flyin' back from Lubbock
I saw Jesus on the plane
... or maybe it was Elvis
You know, they kinda look the same."
Don Henley et al.
From: fy03+@andrew.cmu.edu (Francis J. Yenca)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: I'm Crushed
Date: 26 Jul 92 08:41:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.keQhKym00VB2QRu0x9
	<70460@apple.Apple.COM>
Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration - 3rd Yr. Opt., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Stef Jones writes:

>fy03+@andrew.cmu.edu (Francis J. Yenca) writes:

>>But Stef, this is not fair!

>>You already know that you have two votes!

>>Frank
>>(vote number one)

>But Frank, you voted for Steve, remember? 

Yeah, but he already declined. :)

Frank
(who wants something good to vote on this year)
From: fred@walter.UUCP (Fred Walter)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Used threads
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 92 20:58:29 GMT
Organization: GRW Enterprises

drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu writes:
>>Actually, I was kinda hoping we might find a new one.....
>
>Would be nice but like the rest of you I seem to be fresh out of ideas,
>give me the afternoon, maybe I'll think of something.......

Hows about arguing about : arguing.

Why argue ?

Do you have to raise your voice and get emotional to get the other person
to take you seriously ?

Does it serve a constructive purpose ? (Can it ?)

Can you keep yourself from verbally attacking the other person's
intelligence/character/etc. when you are arguing with them ?

	fred
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Would you Shag a 14 year old ??
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:04:34 GMT
Reply-To: margoli@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <1992Jul27.182840.6897@sbil.co.uk>  mikeu@dinar.sbi.COM (Michael Urbanski) writes:
> In article <l6qr5iINN4g6@news.bbn.com>, Bonger writes:
> |>
> |> >Given the opportunity if you came across a seriously gorgeously horny
> |> >girl who was very repsonsive and willing to get to bed with you, but
> |> >you knew she was only 14 years old.
> |> >
> |> >Would you ??
> |> >
> |> >a/     Without a second thought
> |> >b/     Only if you knew you would not be caught
> |> >c/     ?
>
> How 'bout c/ NO!!! That would be sick and irresponsible.  You could really
> mess up the young girl's head.

How 'bout c/  (b) *plus* she was already sexually active.

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: wkaufman@us.oracle.com (William Kaufman)
Subject: Re: guys with long hair
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
Distribution: soc
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 05:49:23 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <156a6eINNeuk@rodan.UU.NET> evie@rodan.UU.NET (Evie Allen) writes:
] 
] I don't understand why guys feel they have to grow their hair long...

    Speaking for myself,...1) With my impending graduation from
Berkeley, I saw it as my last chance to look the part; 2) Since my
sister had cut her hair (from butt-length to just-below-the-shoulders),
I saw it as upholding family hair length averages; 3) Because I could;
4) It annoys all the right people--the people easily annoyed by
something as trivial as hair length (this isn't a slam against you--I
was thinking more of my father's wife,...); 5) I had to find out,...

    So, it's been three years, and I just haven't gotten around to
cutting it all the way back.

] I prefer guys with short hair..I find that really attractive!

    I prefer women who,... well, to each his/her own, I guess.

] I have a male friend who's hair is longer than mine and he gets
] more attention from unsuspecting males....from behind he does.
] You should see their faces when he turns around.

    Yes!  I love watching their jaws drop like that, tweaking the
collective received standards,..

] I would choose a guy with short hair any day over one with long hair...
] Come to think of it, I wouldn't be interested at all with a male who
] has hair longer than mine!

    Hmm,... Terra and Evie,... two down, about two and a half billion to
go,...

                                           -- Bill K.

Bill Kaufman,          | "Hush my darling / Be still my darling /
Corporate Lackey       |  The lion's on the phone,..."
wkaufman@us.oracle.com |              -- "The Guitar", They Might Be Giants
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: Ross Ridge <ross@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: topless
Organization: ZOOiD BBS
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:25:59 GMT

dhardin@spcink.bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
>[I was at a party with Her Royal Majesty a few months ago and she started 
>squalling.  So I asked the guy I was talking to if he would mind if I fed
>the baby.  He said, "No, of course not, do you mind if I leer?"  I couldn't
>think of a comeback.]

How 'bout just "Yes, I mind"?  (or "No, I don't" as appropriat)

								Ross Ridge

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From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: How to make Fish & Chips (wasRe: The Unique American Way)
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:57:23 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <711543331snx@walter.UUCP> fred@walter.UUCP (Fred Walter) writes:
>neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk writes:
>> Neil's DIY Guide to fish & chips.
>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>> 
>> Fish: Get yourself a cod, haddock or plaice.
>                       ^^^
>
>If you're getting a cod, get it soon. (Moratorium on catching them ya know).
>

Now I come to think about it, it may be beef dripping they fry the chips
in and not lard. I can't remember. I'll remember to ask next time I'm
in.

Fish: Cod. Personally I prefer a Smoked Sausage Supper, or Haggis supper.

Q/ What's a haggis
A/ Go find a dictionary

Q/ What's a 'supper'
A/ Scottish way of asking for an XXXXX meal. 'I'll have a fish supper' ==
   darn sarf 'Fish & Chips'.

Neil
From: lairdpg@lub001.lamar.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Define "FEMININE" anything goes...
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:00:47 +1700
Organization: Lamar University - Beaumont

In article <1992Jul28.205339.23309@infonode.ingr.com>, rock@medch.b17a.ingr.com (Chris Hudson) writes:
> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
> 
>>Feminine is closing on a property sale - with finesse.
> 
>>Feminine is that great feeling of getting in the shower after
>>cutting the grass and changing the oil.
> 
>>Feminine is skiing a NASTAR course at breakneck speed.
> 
>>Feminine is reaching through a wall of men at a newsstand for
>>a copy of Club International and paying for it without caring
>>what anyone thinks.
> 
>>Feminine is showing your 9-year-old kid how to throw and catch a
>>softball.
> 
>>Feminine is doing counted cross-stitch, polishing rocks, and
>>collecting old license plates.
> 
>>Feminine is being able to change a tire without ruining your
>>nails.
> 
>>Feminine is wearing pink Hanes Her Ways panties (and nothing
>>else) between freshly washed cotton sheets ....
> 
> Bravo!  Bravo!  (Loud cheers and applause!)  
> 
> Chris Hudson

CLAP! CLAP! CLAP! CLAP!

and *NO* !  that doesn't mean I have some hidious medical ailment... (hehe)
From: strake@coos.dartmouth.edu (strake)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: please don't read this???
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:48:26 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

ok, question to you all on willpower, curiosity, and ethics

Ok, I just say an article with the title that said it was for someone
and asked that no one else read it.

first of all, that seems to defeat the purpose cause I was instantly hit with
an overwhelming desire to read it just because he asked that I not read it.

second, it's really annoying to me, because I know that the only thing
preventing me from satisfying my curiosity is some sill ethical issues about
staying out of things that people asked you to stay out of even if you know
they won't catch you getting into them.

did anyone else have this problem, did anyone read it anyway?
you can just mail me if you don't want to let everyone on the net know that
you are a curious snoop who doesn't respect people's privacy.

And my apologies to both the person who sent it, and the person who received
it.  My curiosity got the better of me.  You can be assured I will say nothing
of the contents.

strake the unethical, immoral, disrespectful, and apologetic typist


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From: cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Chris Penington)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Breast Puns
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:25:35 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Jul22.155954.430@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>In article <MARTINC.92Jul22114137@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>>In article <k-fmntp.aahz@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:
>>
>>Thank you for making a clean breast of it.
>>Another thread of puns?  I bet we can return you tit for tat.
>
>Ah, a thread like this is sure to bring back some great mammaries.

Let's milk it for all it's worth!!!

      Chris

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From: terra@reed.edu (Clippers in '93!!!)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Life After College
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:54:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Jul22.185444.25277
Distribution: usa
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

In article <1992Jul20.214329.7938@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> thartman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Timothy J Hartman) writes:
>For those of you on soc.singles that graduated from college, life sure does
>change.  Trying to find your first job, meeting new people, staying motivated
>are some situations that have a lot of challenges.  I have felt a great deal of
>comfort now that school is over but the change is hard.
>I met many interesting friends in college.  Some developed into my best friends
>while others came and gone.  It was pretty easy to meet anyone when going to
>class, work and organizational meetings.  I still keep in touch with my friends
>on a regular basis but I am excited to meet new ones.

I definitely hear ya there, you just don't MEET people in the same way, like
spend a lot of time around each other getting to know one another BEFORE you
decide whether you're interested in being friends/having a relationship.
Now I find I meet people for ten minutes in a bar, and I have to base the
whole "should I or shouldn't I give them my phone number and agree on meeting
them again?" on our brief encounter, or else I"ll never see them again!

>What was the feeling for most of you when it came to meeting new people in not
>only the professional sphere but other areas such as your social life?  I have
>found, in the social area, that talking and getting to know others really
>shapes ones outlook toward meeting that special person.  

Yup, and when you're not in that congenial "hang out in the cafe and meet all
your friends' friends" kinda atmosphere where you can really "chat" before 
deciding if you're into somebody, you have a lot less to go on in deciding 
whether you're into a person.  All too often lately I've met men who seem
interesting enough from the two minutes of dancing/flirting we engage in after
three drinks in some nightclub, gave them my phone number (not that I"m a 
swinger, but in L.A., you'll NEVER see that person again if you don't at least
go this far), then when they call and I really get to TALK to them, I realize
they're a total loser or just another asshole who wants sex.  (this puts me in
the asshole category too, just to be fair)  

I remember when I was in college, I'd just walk across campus over to the
Student Union, the cafe, or the library, round up five or six friends to go
to a bar, and we'd hang out together.  When some local guy that didn't come
with us, and I didn't recognize from school would come up and bust a move, I'd
think "god, what a jerk" or "what a loser, I don't even *KNOW* him!" and I'd
be totally turned off by the fact that a guy would resort to "picking-up" 
chicks in a bar.  Now, I feel TOTALLY different, and can't see how ELSE you
meet people in a place like L.A.  It certainly AIN'T grad school either, let 
me tell ya...never met so many old, attached, and generally uninteresting
people in my life (maybe I"m just too young for grad schooll still)  

Terra
From: pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Soc.singles.deity.funny
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:32:25 GMT
Organization: Trivializers R Us

In article <70458@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>pw@panix.com (Paul Wallich) writes:
>>In article <70432@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>>
>>>Uzi - check   
>>>Marshmallows  - check 
>>>Syllogism detector - check
>>>Lime jello - check
>>>
>>>Name your weapon.
>
>>Yo, Stef, you forgot the Velcro!
>
>Paul, your mission, should you choose to accept, is to make a mixed
>metaphor using all the above ingredients.

Damn. I couldn't find gelatin, so I tried tapioca instead, and the
"hook-and-loop fastener material" [no TM] has completely jammed up
the intellectual cuisinart (oh, well, the guarantee only said 30
years) so the best I can hope for is points for the cupid-with-a-
machine-gun tee shirt. Those coming to the boink may find some of
the thing with tapioca quite tasty, as opposed to the thing with
feathers, which is still not back from Zurich (and is probably
having a good time).

this post will self-destruct in five seconds...
From: casbah.acns.nwu.edu!drmax@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: She called, I came, she smiled, I slept
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:35:00 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

In article <ewillims.711804552@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma 
Williams) writes:

>
> Marianna dear, I think you'll find that I said nothing at all about 
>not wishing to do exactly the same for my lover! However, on re-reading my
>post, I see that I should have said "May I please nominate this as the
> motto for all subscribers to soc.singles?"
>Replace Mark's words "the MAN'S only role" with "the Lover's only role"...
>

Adequate save Emma
From: mahon@Software.Mitel.COM (Ed Mahon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: long hair
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:10:07 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In keeping with this thread, there's another side that I haven't seen
discussed:

How do the net.ladies feel about *guys* with long hair?

Ed