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From: miked@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Mike Danielsen)
Subject: Re: Move
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:25:32 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.173518.9801@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.164542.28799@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>>Skip Sauls (skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu) wrote:
>>: >
>>: >You mean '\'?  as in C:\Games\Falcon3 and C:\Games\StuntIsl ?
>>: > 
>>: >Does it matter, Skip?
>>:
>>: Yes.  If I didn't use anything but Clones, it might not be.  But I use
>>: Amigas and various UNIX boxes on a daily basis and the Clones are the
>>: only ones that do things backwards.
>>:
>>
>>Really?  So how come I can use "cd .." to up a directory level on both DOS
>>and UNIX, but not on an Amiga?  Who's doing things backwards here?
>
>You can use cd .. to go up a level on the Amiga by means of a simple
>script and an alias:
>
>.key dir
>
>IF "<dir>" EQ ".."
>  C:CD /
>ELSE
>  C:CD <dir>
>ENDIF  
>
>>+-------------------+----------------------------+---------------------------+
>>| JERRY J. SHEKHEL  | Molecular Simulations Inc. | Time just fades the pages |
>>| Drummers do it... |     Burlington, MA USA     | in my book of memories.   |
>>|    ... In rhythm! |        jerry@msi.com       |         -- Guns N' Roses  |
>>+-------------------+----------------------------+---------------------------+
>
>Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate
>skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
>

At least you can fix this under AmigaDOS. I challenge any PC user or programmer
to fix the "\" to be a "/".

Mike Danielsen
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Comdex/Quicktime released for the PC
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:05:06 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1993Jan19.195658.29400@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>Dr Peter Kittel Germany (peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com) wrote:
>: >
>: >Peter, it is YOU who needs to get informed.  There is no "flat" memory mode
>: >on the x86, although it can be simulated by using a single large segment.
>:
>: I really apologize to have given misinformation. Anyone wonder where I did
>: get this false info from? Well, from the honest Jerry S., in the times
>: where he told the world that the x86 is far superior to the 680x0 processors
>
>You're lying, Peter.  

I'm not. Enough people here have read what you said then. Don't try such a
cheap escape.

>Please don't put words in my mouth.  

Sorry, *I* have to say this to *you*!

>It may be one single assembler statement for emulating Real Mode.  In
>Protected Mode there's a lot more going on, you know.  

Ok, then it's three or four assembler statements. *Any* software emulator
of a different processor has to execute several statements for every single
statement of the original processor. We had long discussions a while ago
how this is done most effectively, it's a very interesting area. So there
is already some overhead. It would not increase sufficiently if you have
to consider also other peculiarities like:

>it then adds the address (offset) to the segment
>base (from the descriptor), checks for segment boundaries, compares the
>privileges levels, marks access bits, etc., all before passing the address
>through the paging mechanism!  

That's standard business for an emulator.

>It's not impossible to emulate; it's just not
>feasible, as the emulation would be way too slow to be useful.

Jerry, I again doubt your competence. You have been told that there exist
*commercial* products! (And people really like them.) Isn't that *some* 
proof that this is *very* feasible???

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From: jorni@edb.tih.no (Joern G. Innset,o90a)
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
Posting-Front-End: Winix Conference v 92.05.15  1.20 (running under MS-Windows)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 15:09:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.200154.12256@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA>, tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>Not bad at all. Is the NOK price MSRP or retail?

Retail - see why I'm so happy? :-D

>Sounds like it's in line with CBM plans, at least according to comments
>made by Lew Eggebrecht. No word on an A4000/30 or A4000T?

Rumor has it there won't be a straight 030 for some time. A4000T - no word on that.

Jorn I.
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From: phudv@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr R B Birkby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Byte (RISC Amiga?)
Date: 26 Jan 1993 14:18:56 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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eterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:

>Grrr, I feel p*ssed at by that magazine. Not only that they don't give
>the Amiga enough appearance, no, they obviously also use rowing boats
>to ship their stuff to Europe! We still don't have the January issue
>here, and you are already talking about the Feb issue!!!

I would expect a delay from the US (albiet it is rather large) but we got our
January issue on 7/1/93 ( I think) that makes it 19 days at least to get to
Germany.

At 200 miles distance that makes it 0.438597(6dp) miles per hour.

INCREDIBLE!

Richard.
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From: rhuebner@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Huebner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: More on 3DO
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:55:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1993Jan26.184933.10443@clipper.ingr.com> kontos@clipper.ingr.com (Thorne Kontos) writes:
>In the current Computer Currents magazine (1/12/93), it is stated that
>the first 3DO game brought out by Steven Speilberg will be based on
>Jurassic Park. It is also stated that developers for Trip Hawkins 3DO
>machine will pay a very low licensing fee (<$5) on each game sold. And
>developers will have no restrictions on what games they can bring out,
>or how many. This is entirely unlike Nintendo, which has numerous
>restrictions, and provides low profit margins for its developers.

Can anyone out there provide some contact information for this new
system?  I am looking for their corporate address, phone/internet,
developer support center, or anything else you have.  All these posts
have got me very interested in getting in on the ground floor of
this impending revolution.  3DO really feels like an endeavor that
is doing things right for a change.

Thanks for any information.
-----
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Undergrad, but not for long!		Purdue University Computing Center
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: CD-I, VIS, CDTV, 3Do comparison? (was -> Re: 3DO Announced)
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:38:55 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1993Jan18.212815.13219@microware.com> troyf@microware.com (Troy Frericks) writes:
>
>These kinds of comments contain no substance - "not even in the same
>solar system", come on.  Don't waste the bandwidth!  Would somebody care
>to post a usefull comparison of CDTV, CD-I, VIS and 3Do.  What will one
>do that the other/s will not, features, disadvantages, lackings, etc.

Waste of bandwidth? This whole damn newsgroup is a waste of bandwidth.
Sheesh.
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From: cs92aja@cen.ex.ac.uk (A.J.Amsel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: More on 3DO
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:30:51 GMT
	<93019.005835SML108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: Computer Unit. - University of Exeter. UK

In article <93019.005835SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> SML108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
   In article <2165@vall.dsv.su.se>, matt-dah@dsv.su.se (Mattias Dahlberg) says:
   >
   >A.J.Amsel (cs92aja@cen.ex.ac.uk) wrote:
   >: I have to say, after hearing more abou the 3DO I have decided to wait
   >: until seeing it before I buy a replacement to my A500.
   >
   >In the mean time I'll buy an AGA-machine anyway. Then, if the 3DO gets
   >an Amiga emulator I will certainly get one. :-)

/   From what I hear, we as scummy users and not multi-million dollar
/   corporations will not be given the option of development on the 3do...

/   Typical video game industry practice which is probably why I can count
/   all of the video games for the SNES and the Genesis which I'd consider
/   buying on one hand...

/   Scott

 /  Die 3do die and all other black boxes...

I don`t thick EA will be silly enough to only have a black box. I heard
on the grapevine that they are having problems keeping the price down.
Consoles will always be V.competitive as will the PC market. But if
the basic machine is a similar price to consoles with equal and superior
hardware AND is easily and cheaply expandable then it should sell like hot
cakes. The equivalent would be CDTV as a console < 200 pounds.
A500 medium/low range with keyboard 3.5" HD drive <450 pounds.
etc etc
What about a decent PC emulator ( hardware or software )?
The 3DO has the potential to dominate the console market and the home
computing market, but only with a decent OS, marketing, and releases
such as said above.

                     Alex
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: allis@math.scarolina.edu (Skip Allis)
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:47:17 GMT

In <C1A1FM.Bws@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:

>In article <1993Jan22.180342.27475W@viper.edb.tih.no> jorni@edb.tih.no writes:
>>Commodore in Norway has more or less confermed the availability of
>>an Amiga 4000 with a 68EC030, 4MB ram and an 85 MB harddisk.
>>
>>The price was the biggest shock of them all: NOK 14500,- incl. tax.
>>
>>That translates to about $1900-$2000 with an exchange rate of 
>>approximately 6.5-7.
>>

>   If the price is true, that would still leave a more than $1500 gap in

Where are you buying a 1200 for $400?  If that is list price, consider
street/powerup price, and I think the difference would be in the $800-$1000
range, almost in the middle.

>Commodore's product line, between the A1200 and the EC030-based A4000.  
>Commodore really needs to develop a system that would be positioned in between
>the A1200 and the cheapest A4000; something like an A1200 with an 'EC030, '882,
>and a detached keyboard would be nice.  However, Commodore has a history of
>not marketing mid-range systems, so I don't think Commodore will start
>marketing one now.

Boy, they really can't do anything right according to you can they?  I get
tired of hearing people flame you and start thinking that you really not as
bad as all that, then you do it again.  I take it you think that the 4000 is
just a complete waste of time.  I dunno, I guess you just tire me out...

>---
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>-------------------------------------------------------------
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>                              - Calvin (of Calvin and Hobbes)

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From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 21 Jan 93 22:59:28 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:

>Skip Sauls (skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu) wrote:
>: >
>: >You mean '\'?  as in C:\Games\Falcon3 and C:\Games\StuntIsl ?
>: > 
>: >Does it matter, Skip?
>:
>: Yes.  If I didn't use anything but Clones, it might not be.  But I use
>: Amigas and various UNIX boxes on a daily basis and the Clones are the
>: only ones that do things backwards.
>:

>Really?  So how come I can use "cd .." to up a directory level on both DOS
>and UNIX, but not on an Amiga?  Who's doing things backwards here?

Jerry... in case you don't understand what the word "backward" means,
it means "heading toward the opposite direction."

Here:  "\" is the backward of "/"  

get it now?? 

You may say that the Amiga do it "differently."  You may even use the
term "awkward," but you shouldn't be using the term "backward" in this
context.  

Thanks for listening.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:21:25 GMT
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
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Dr Peter Kittel Germany (peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com) wrote:
:  >:
:  >: Also, why would the directory separator on its own be the root?
:  >: (This also
:  >: annoys me in UNIX).
:  >
:  >So that you don't have to exclude another character, like ":", from the set
:  >of valid file name characters.
:
: Hmm, do you want to tell us that you can use a colon as part of a MS-DOS
: (or Windows or OS/2) filename? As far as I know this is not possible.
: Correct me if I'm wrong.
:

You're right -- this is a problem with DOS and OS/2 as well, and no, I didn't
mean to imply otherwise.  I was simply answering the question that had been
asked.

:
: Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...
:
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+-------------------+----------------------------+---------------------------+
From: mike@rahul.net (Mike Smithwick)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Questions for 3DO
Date: 26 Jan 93 06:56:17 GMT
Organization: BLAZEMONGER "Customer Support"

[]

I expect to be getting a tour of the 3DO labs (really) in the next couple
of weeks, just to keep RJ on his toes. If anyone has any questions
about the box, pass them to me and I'll ask them if I have enough 
time.

Mike

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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.1 beta available via anonymous FTP
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 21:15:38 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <sheldon.727776409@pv141b.vincent.iastate.edu>

> Interesting.  I don't understand this attitude.  We're talking about a
>beta release here.  The final release of OS/2 2.1 will have a price tag, as
>will the updates from OS/2 2.0.

I think the difference is there are a significant amount of Amiga users
who would happily use a beta version forever, and never pay money for
the final release.

Oh yeah. Then they'd bitch on .advocacy how everything crashes on their
Amiga. And why doesn't Commodore test anything before they release it.

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  Move
Distribution: world
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:44:38 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <SUOPANKI.93Jan24232258@stekt5.oulu.fi> suopanki@stekt5.oulu.fi (Heikki T. Suopanki) writes:
>>>>>> On 23 Jan 93 17:26:29 EST, root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) said:
>
>Rick> In a recent article in Business Week where they were talking about Novell
>Rick> buying USL, they stated that 20% of Intel based boxes are running UNIX.
>Rick> And there are lots of other platforms running UNIX.
>
>That would make 20+ million Unix boxes...it can't be that much.
>Even Microsoft would make UNIX software if there were that many UNIX
>boxes! 

Intel boxes running UNIX are everywhere.  You just don't see them.  In the
US they are buried in consoles in fast food restaurants and the post office.
They are used for shop floor control, data acquisition, and database retrieval.

There are at least 12 major vendors selling R3 and R4, and there are at least
3 very large database companies that are working very hard to sell to the
UNIX pc market.

>I think either you or Business Week got it wrong.
>Maybe they said that "20% of UNIX boxes are Intel based"?? Although that
>figure sounds too low.

The figure of 100 million is for all Intel boxes ever sold.  An awful lot
of them have died and gone to another place.

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From: pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: RISC Amiga?
Date: 23 Jan 1993 16:16:46 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <1jqltsINN7f9@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:

>Alphas?  I wasn't aware that their design made it "easy" to
>multiprocess them.  Now, let's be civil about this, I'll settle for
>the moto 88k series, they've at least got a "nice" multiprocessing set
>up.  The reason the SuperSPARC's came to mind was their relative ease
>in setting up a parallel architecture.  I could be wrong, but I didn't
>think the Alpha "lent" itself to parallel architectures.

If what DEC says can be believed, then the Alpha was designed with
multiprocessing/superscalar features in mind from day one.  One of the
first Alpha machines DEC has shipped is a high-end mini/mainframe with
the capability for multiple (and I mean a _lot_ more than two) Alphas
in it.  Virtually all the OS'es that DEC will support in the future
allow SMP (OpenVMS, OSF/1, Windows NT), so unless they are total
idiots, I think it's pretty safe to say that DEC is on the ball with
respect to multiprocessing.

Paul



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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  Move
Distribution: world
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:44:53 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <1993Jan21.161416.5053@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.052858.23136@usl.edu> das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan20.230815.6107@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
>>>In article <1993Jan20.221523.7781@usl.edu> das9674@ucs.usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>>>>Does the Amiga CLI have 'move', as in moving files, directories wholly? 
>>>
>>>Yes, it is called rename.  I don't like the standard Amiga names for 
>>
>>You mean something called' rename' can move a directory back a level, keeping
>>the same name?  In UNIX, you use 'mv' to rename a file, in AMigaDOS you
>>use 'rename' to MOVE a file?  Odd...
>>
>>>utilities like copy, move, delete, etc., so I've got them aliased to
>>>the UNIX-like cp, mv, rm, etc. commands.  All of the Clones I have at
>>>work also have UNIX-like utils, so moving between machines is that
>>>much simpler.
>
>>Where CAN I get really nice MS-DOS UNIX-like utils?  Have an batch file that
>>does dir/w for ls doens't cut it...
>
>I don't know for sure.  We have a bunch of utilities on all the Clones
>in the department, but I have no idea where they came from.  But I don't
>think that renaming directories is supported.  However, Windows may allow
>you do rename them...
>
>>>That brings up something else: Does OS/2 still use the retard slash for
>>>directories or have the OS folks come to their senses?  That one mistake
>>>by Microsoft is an even bigger blunder than MS-DOS itself...
>>
>>You mean '\'?  as in C:\Games\Falcon3 and C:\Games\StuntIsl ?
>> 
>>Does it matter, Skip?
>
>Yes.  If I didn't use anything but Clones, it might not be.  But I use
>Amigas and various UNIX boxes on a daily basis and the Clones are the
>only ones that do things backwards.
>
>>>Skip Sauls, Amiga Advocate who hates using the retard slash
>>>skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
>>
>>Why?
>
>Personal preference.  Oh, I forgot that you Clone advocates don't want
>people to use anything else...

Even Apple II ProDOS used the '/' to separate directories in the manner
that God intended.

Up until DOS 3.3 it was possible to write a switchar program using MSDOS
calls that would change the system to use '/' and '-', but DOS ignores
the change from 4.0 onwards.

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From: don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd)
Subject: Re: RISC Amiga?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:32:49 GMT

In <1jrr1eINNjsu@mozz.unh.edu> pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro) writes:
>
>If what DEC says can be believed, then the Alpha was designed with
>multiprocessing/superscalar features in mind from day one.  One of the
>first Alpha machines DEC has shipped is a high-end mini/mainframe with
>the capability for multiple (and I mean a _lot_ more than two) Alphas
>in it.  Virtually all the OS'es that DEC will support in the future
>allow SMP (OpenVMS, OSF/1, Windows NT), so unless they are total
>idiots, I think it's pretty safe to say that DEC is on the ball with
>respect to multiprocessing.
>


     Cray will be using huge numbers of Alphas in their next supercomputer.
If Cray s using them, you _know_ they're built with SMp in mind. :-)



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From: Mike.Noreen@arkham.bbs.bad.se (Mike Noreen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: RISC Amiga II - The Query.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 20:16:00 +0100
Reply-To: Mike.Noreen@arkham.bbs.bad.se (Mike Noreen)
Distribution: world
Organization: Arkham Asylum, Stockholm, Sweden 
OD-Comment-To: All

A couple of days ago, I was reading the C= press release from WoC, and found 
something I think might be important. Please dont flame me too much if I'm 
wrong...

Firstly, there's the low-end chipset; basically an upgraded AGA. In the 
release it specifically states that this chipset will support the MC68000 
family, up to and including MC68060 (I guess there will be a '060-amiga, then?)
.

Secondly, and more interesting, there is the High-End chipset. This one has a 
lot of bells and whistles to it, among other things the use of VRAM (instead 
of Chip-RAM?), and nowhere does it state which processors will be supported.

Now, as I've understood it, you can't mix VRAM and chip-RAM, and atleast with 
todays DOS and kick, you have to have chip-RAM.

Assuming this is correct, wouldn't this rather point toward a split in the 
Amiga line? On one hand, the standard Amigas with 68000-family processors and 
low-end chipset, and on the other hand a new powerful line with the High End 
chipset - and probably RISC processors.

I dont claim that it is actually this way, I just read a note and started 
thinking (which is a dangerous thing to do).

What I'd like to know from someone who knows more about designing computers 
than me, is i.e. Is it possible to mix chip-RAM and VRAM in the same computer? 
Is Chip-RAM needed by AmigaDOS? Would a switch to VRAM from chip-ram 
architecture necessarily lead to incompatibility problems?

MVH: Mike Noreen

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