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From: pjl@sparc10.cs.uiuc.edu (Paul Lucas)
Subject: Re: Positioning question for Word 5
Keywords: Word, question, frame, position
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 22:27:59 GMT

In <1992Aug12.184952.6594@athena.mit.edu> boyce@amo.mit.edu (Kevin Boyce) writes:

>So this isn't really a Word question, because it seems to be standard
>in all the word processors I've tried, but it bugs me....
> 
>Why the hell won't text flow backward past a positioned object (now 
>called a "frame")?  Or, to put it another way, why is the page break
>calculated BEFORE the positioning is done?

>I have lots of full-page figures in my t----s (I'll be able to speak
>the word after my defense, I promise), and I don't want a random fraction
>of the preceding page to be blank in every case.  If I don't frame it,
>naturally it does a page break before the large graphic.  But, if I 
>use a frame, putting it at, say, the top of the page, it STILL forces
>a new page break before the graphic, which then goes at the top of the
>next page.  

>When I had 4.0, I called MS several times, and got several bogus answers
>from several morons, and one useful fellow who said, "Yes, that's a deliberate
>design decision."  Does anybody know if there's a way around it now?
>I haven't called MS yet, and I'll do that unless somebody here knows
>any good info about the situation.  

>Am I the only person who is bothered by this?

*****>	Using troff and one of the standard macro-packages, one had the
	ability to define "floating-paragraphs" wherein one could deposit
	a figure.  The figure would then float forward until it was able
	to fit, with the text filling behind it.

	Why Word doesn;t do this is beyond me; noooo, you have to have at
	least 1 inch, but then you get a thin column of text.  It should
	push the text apart instead.
-- 
	- Paul J. Lucas				University of Illinois	
	  AT&T Bell Laboratories		at Urbana-Champaign
	  Naperville, IL			pjl@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: barretpj@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Phil J Barrett)
Subject: Word 5 error avoidance
Organization: Aston University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:57:00 GMT

I've been doing a lot of editing of large documents in Word 5.0a, and have
had several errors relating to "disk errors". It turns out that these are not
physical disk errors, but are probably errors with the Word Temp file.

Specifically, when I copy a large chunk of text from one file and paste it
into another, Word is likely to report an error (and sometimes crash the Mac)
during subsequent find and/or replace operations.

To prevent these errors, it seems the file has to be saved straight after
pasting the text. Presumably this gives Word a disk copy of the text to work 
from, rather than using a copy in memory or in a large Word Temp file.

I hope this is of use to someone out there!

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From: me@four.ucdavis.edu (amhastings@ucdavis.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Freedom of Press Lite
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:57:02 GMT
Reply-To: me@four.ucdavis.edu
Organization: U C DAVIS

In article 24905@castle.ed.ac.uk, egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson) writes:
> I have a feeling that this has been asked (and answered) before,
> but can FOPL be used to print a postscript file (such as produced
> by OzTex) on an ink-jet printer (such as a Desk Writer)?
> 
> -- 
> ==================================================================
> -Jeremy Henderson            |  Une souris verte
>  egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk	     |  Qui courrait dans l'herbe
> ==================================================================


Yes.
Also, you can print a color postscript file if you have a Deskwriter C (and you 
increase the memory alloted to the application).
Alan Hastings
amahstings@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: phoffman@crcvms.unl.edu
Subject: INFINI-D v2.0
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:17:16 CST

Has anyone out in NETland gotten an opportunity to use Infini-d v2.0?
I'm thinking about purchasing some modeling/rendering/animation software
one of these days and am curious if this new iteration represents some
significant improvements in what I have heard (all in all) is a great piece
of software.
Please respond to me personally.
With thanks,
Paul

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ak873@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Sapienza)
Subject: Re: Fullwrite Professional
Reply-To: ak873@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Sapienza)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 13:22:00 GMT


In a previous article, tecot@momenta.com (Ed Tecot) says:

>
>For US$49, you can upgrade to v1.5s of FWP.  Just call up Borland customer
>support (sorry, I don't have the number).  I still use FWP and the only
>problem I've encountered is with the cache on the Quadra, but there's
>shareware to fix that problem.
>
>Which reminds me...  Where can I get CacheOut?  I can't FTP to Stanford.
>
>					_emt
>
>


I managed to get both FWP 1.5s and FI 2.0s for free.  I simply told them that
I needed the System 7 compatible version.   They sent both for free!

Mike
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From: tjc@castle.ed.ac.uk (A J Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: info wanted on Insigna Win 3.1 emulation
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:42:14 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University Colouring Book Software

simion@iveuncc.unive.it (Marco Simionato) writes:


>i)  is it a new product or just DOS 5 and Win 3.1 running on top of
>SoftAT?

It's a new product.

>ii) if it is a new product, does it give significative improvements over
>    loading Windows on top of SoftAT - hardly acceptable on a FX?

I think our marketeers recommend a Quadra.
T


-- 
Tony Cunningham, Insignia Solutions. 				   tjc@ed.ac.uk

Yes, I carry a grudge. If someone pokes me in the eye, I'll poke both of
their eyes. larry@psl.nmsu.edu (Larry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: Re: SendPS problems with System 7?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 07:41:27 GMT

In <1992Aug21.150447.4080@seas.gwu.edu> mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman) writes:

>I'm a new System 7 user and seem to be having problems with SendPS,
>which I use frequently to dump ASCII files to my printer. SendPS
>2.0 seems to run OK but has trouble retrieving the name of the
>printer from the LaserWriter driver. Any thoughts on this?

All of the following will print PostScript files:
 
LaserWriter Font Utility (comes with System 7 on the Tidbits disk)
 
LaserWriter Utility (comes with new Apple LaserWriters and is on
ftp.apple.com)
 
SendPS (old, but will work with System 7 if LaserWriter is moved out
of the extensions folder into the System Folder proper)
 
Downloader (comes with all Adobe font disks and is apparently the
replacement for SendPS, but I don't think it is freeware)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: rrk@iris3.chem.fsu.edu (Randal R. Ketchem)
Subject: Re: SendPS problems with System 7?
Organization: Florida State University -- Structural Biology Program
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 22:13:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.150447.4080@seas.gwu.edu> mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman) writes:
>I'm a new System 7 user and seem to be having problems with SendPS,
>which I use frequently to dump ASCII files to my printer. SendPS
>2.0 seems to run OK but has trouble retrieving the name of the
>printer from the LaserWriter driver. Any thoughts on this?
>

Apple sends a utility with system 7 called LaserWriter Font Utility. This
will allow you to dump a postscript file to your printer.

Randy

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From: jfw@ksr.com (John F. Woods)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: copy protection/licensing solution?
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:55:23 EDT

Robert.H.Gross@dartmouth.edu (Robert H. Gross) writes:
>As the one year license period draws to a close (let's say after 10-11
>months), the user will begin to get reminders every time the program is
>launched that the license needs to be renewed along with directions on
>how to do the renewal. He/she can renew simply by calling the company
>and providing the password and serial number of his/her program. If the
>password and serial number are OK and not already renewed, the company
>would calculate a string for the user to type into a dialog box to
>refresh the expiration date of the currently running program. The
>company would then mark that serial number as "updated". If a
>subsequent user calls and tries to update the license, he/she would be
>told that it was already updated and the company could not update
>another copy.

If the company goes out of business, the program will expire itself with no
recourse.  If the program keeps my data in a proprietary format, I could lose
my data.  Why should it be necessary to pay for an unnecessary service?  I
won't buy that program.  (And yes, I routinely pay for software.)

At least this concept is useful for further exploring the moral bankruptcy of
the "license" idea.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: keithb@advtech.uswest.com (Keith Bechard)
Subject: WORD 5 Problems on PowerBook 170
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: U S WEST/Advanced Technologies
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:04:00 GMT

I have been having several problems with WORD 5 on my PowerBook 170.
First, I should note that I have upgraded to 5a.

I have a document that has many complex drawings created with MacDraw. In
WORD, I occassionally like to "tweak" one of the drawings.  WORD
consistently
crashes when I invoke the Picture tool. I get the message"

        "The application "unknown" has unexpectedly quit, because an error
         of type 25 occurred."

Note that I do not always get an error of type 25.

The other problem I have is that WORD writes multiple WORD Settings(5)
files.
That is, I find copies of this file in many different directories. This is
associated (I think) with a message from WORD when I exit the application
that
says it could not write the settings file.

I have reinstalled WORD completely and the problem still exists.  Any
thoughts
other than buy another word processor??

Keith Bechard
Senior Member Technical Staff
U S WEST/Advanced Technologies
From: dana@are.Berkeley.EDU (Dana E. Keil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word 5.0 problem : grammar Checker &Powerbook 170 w/ 8mb-->Out of m
Date: 18 Aug 1992 19:40:49 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley, Agr & Res Economics
NNTP-Posting-Host: are.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Aug18.024539.19227@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jbush@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J Eric Bush) writes:
>I don't know how to grammar check without spelling though.

Unless I misunderstand your question, I think you'll find what
you're asking for in the grammar preferences. There are two lists
of customizable things for the grammar checker to do or not do, on
one of the lists there is a place where you can remove the check
mark from "spelling" as one of the grammar operations.

But does anyone know how I can get the spelling module not to stop
on what it considers mistakes in capitalization--so that, for
example, it won't stop on the math variable i and tell me it should
be capitalized.
-- 
Dana E. Keil           Department of Agricultural and Resource Economics
dana@are.Berkeley.EDU                 University of California, Berkeley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: davidm@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (David Morgenstern)
Subject: Re: Comments on Miracle Piano teaching system
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:05:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.214853.17010@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us> alex@grian.cps.altadena.ca.us (Alex Pournelle) writes:

>No one would accuse The Software Toolworks of attempting to remove
>typing teachers from the workforce with Mavis Beacon Teaches Typing, or
>de-employing music teachers with The Miracle.  They're just very good
>products for learning without spending giant wads o' cash.

Alex:

There's a lot of difference between a typing Tutor program 
and the Hardware/Software/Beware combo of the "Miracle" system. You
don't have to buy a special keyboard to use the Typing software --
and they only cost $20-45, not ten times that amount. As you said,
some would question the piano-ness of the Miracle keyboard
anyway...

daviD
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From: soubyran@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Soubyran Richard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Misc questions...
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:50:10 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal


Hi Fellow Macers!

I have a few questions that I hope you will be able to answer... at
least try to!

1. Is it possible to run System 6.0.X on a Quadra (any one of them)?

2. Is there a utility which would permit me to run X-Windows on my
   Mac IIci? I am connected to a SGI Indigo at 9600 bauds (direct
   connect modem).

3. My boss, Professor Legendre, is undertaking a book on bio-stats.
   He would like to know which is the better DTP to use: PageMaker,
   FrameMaker or Nisus. His book will be about 400 pages and it
   will contain many mathematical expressions. He knows that in
   FrameMaker there is an equation editor.

4. Rumors wants that Apple will reveal new machines in November of
   this year... Should he wait for them or go for a Classic II?

5. Is there a co-processor in the LCII? Plus, is there an extension
   slot in it?

6. About laser printers now... should we go for another LaserWriter
   II NT or go for HP, Texas or any other brand? The volume of
   paper printed is not that important... as long as the printer is
   ps compatible. By the way.. could you tell me what is the
   difference between ps and eps?

7. Another Professor is planning to buy a IIci... shoud he go for
   one plus an accelerator or go for a Quadra? Speaking of
   accelerator... which is the best (understand more reliable) on
   the market? Is it Daystar or Radius or Tokamak?



I know I could ask all those questions to my nearest Apple
dealer... but the thing is that they are sellers! I am more
sensible to end-users opinions, not just "Yeah.. buy this.. it's
the best of this and that...". Real world users are much valuable
than any (car/mac!) sellers!

I thank you all in advance... 


Richard Soubyran
soubyran@alize.ere.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: WORD 5 Problems on PowerBook 170
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<16of7fINNlhr@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:06:17 GMT

Dana> == Dana E. Keil <dana@are.Berkeley.EDU> 

 Dana> Keep increasing the memory allocation until you don't get a
 Dana> crash, you might have to go above 2500-3000.

Does this remind anyone besides me of "just give me the money and I
won't shoot you"?  I didn't upgrade to Word 5, and if WriteNow 3.1 or
later ever gets tables (the last remaining redeeming feature of Word)
I'll be off like a shot...

Maybe MacWrite Pro will ship before my grandkids want to use it...

--
Christopher Davis * ckd@eff.org * System Administrator, EFF * +1 617 864 0665
            ``Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ti Kwan Leep.
            Approach me that you might see.'' -- The Master
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Mac PC Exchange, AccessPC & DOSMounter
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:42:24 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <1992Aug17.204748.7152@hellgate.utah.edu> mshields%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Michael S Shields) writes:

>If you want to access a Netware volume and don't have Netware fo Macs then look
>into NetMounter from Dayna Communications(Same people who do DOS Mounter). It
>is a Netware client which converts AppleTalk protocols into IPX protocols that
>Netware uses.  This is a great idea if you have only a few macs(<15) and need
>to get to a Netware server.  It only allows you to see Netware files, and not
>access print queues though, so don't expect everything from it.  It does DOS
>to Mac file mapping in the same way DOS Mounter does. 

NetMounter is good stuff but I already own NetWare 4 Mac so I don't really
need it.

What I do need is something that lets me click a file with a .XLS
extension on a NetWare volume and recognizes it as an Excel file. But
perhaps I expect too much from life.

-Geoff
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From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Mac PC Exchange, AccessPC & DOSMounter
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:39:06 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <3974@svin02.info.win.tue.nl> robg@wsinfo11.info.win.tue.nl (Rob Gerth) writes:

>Does anyone have experience with Apple's Macintosh PC Exchange and is willing
>to comment on its virtues/vices as compared to AccessPC and DOSMounter?

At the moment I'm having problems getting my boss to let me buy a current
version of DOS Mounter so my impressions of that product are way out of
date.

BUT, I'm quite familiar with ~AccessPC and PC Exchange as I am evaluating
them for my boss at this very moment.

PC Exchange is very stable and has no apparent problems with most
software, but I did discover a couple minor INIT conflicts with some
PD/Shareware. The one major problem with it is that unlike ~AccessPC it
writes a directory to each and every DOS disk that it reads.

Now, I REALLY dislike this. While some people complain that ~AccessPC
writes the directory to memory and therefore mounts DOS disks a little
more slowly I prefer this. I don't want my DOS disk utility writing
resource files all over creation.

As far as I can tell, all three utilitys only provide Mac app
double-clickability on _disks_ and are no help on local hard disks or
NetWare volumes, that's really too bad.

So I'm going to try and get a look at the current DOS Mounter and then
choose between it and ~AccessPC.

-Geoff
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: tachaimov@hou.amoco.com (Tom Chaimov)
Subject: Re: Conversion of CGM graphics files?
Reply-To: tachaimov@hou.amoco.com (Tom Chaimov)
Organization: Amoco Production Company
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:58:26 GMT

kuryakin@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Rick Pavek) writes:

>Assuming you can obtain a package... Canvas readily opens and converts
>CGM files.

I guess I missed the original posting,
but I have done a bit of cgm-ing
with Canvas, and Canvas doesn't
deal well with cgm files.  It can't
convert a pict or tiff to cgm, you'd
need CADMover or maybe MetaPICT
to do that.  Furthermore, I've encountered
many a cgm that Canvas can't read
correctly.  It translates points all
over the place to create a real
work of abstract art.

Also, if you intend to get
a hard copy of a Canvas cgm file
off of a Versatec plotter, you won't
get WYSIWYG.  Canvas colors
don't map accurately.  I believe
ClarisCAD uses a different color
set (Zeh?) that works better, but
I'm not very familiar with it.

Tom


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: Re: Mac PC Exchange, AccessPC & DOSMounter
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 07:33:57 GMT

In <5-g-KR_@engin.umich.edu> Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com> writes:

>The AOL DOS software does not do a MacBinary download like the AOL Mac
>software. So the DOS file you have is what you need--you just have to
>change it from binary to Macbinary.

Whoops! What he has is a macbinary file which needs to be converted to a
mac file. As you stated, Unfolder can do this, as well as a program called
(surprisingly enough) MacBinary and others.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: kobet@picker.com (Harry Kobetitsch)
Subject: MAC to SUN
Organization: Picker International, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:20:03 GMT

Has anybody done a port from applications written in 
PASCAL for the MAC to C on the SUN ?     
-- 
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Highland Heights, Ohio 44143
Voice: 216-473-2624
From: lee@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Peter Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: 3-D renderers/modellers.  (was: * Review: Infini-D 2.0)
Date: 21 Aug 92 01:04:26 GMT
	<1992Aug19.225721.25420@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<1992Aug20.014157.27737@athena.mit.edu>
Reply-To: lee@cs.umass.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Software Development Lab, UMass, Amherst
In-reply-to: cht@athena.mit.edu's message of 20 Aug 92 01:41:57 GMT


In article <1992Aug20.014157.27737@athena.mit.edu> cht@athena.mit.edu (Chester Liu) writes:
From: rneame@agt.uucp (Roger Neame)
Subject: Excel Chart Fonts      
Organization: AGT Ltd.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 14:56:35 GMT

I would like to change the default chart font in Excel 3.0 from
Geneva to Helvetica.  Does anyone know how this could be done,
(using ResEdit if necessary)?

Roger Neame
rneame%agt.uucp@cs.ualberta.ca