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From: rkwst+@pitt.edu (Raymond K Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Storms in Hong Kong
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:10:09 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Aug30.102830.28346@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> raju@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Daryanani) writes:
>In <78648@ut-emx.uucp> onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (K2-2nd on Earth) writes:
>
>Except that in HK it would only have caused a few million HK dollars damage, 
>rather than the USD30 billion estimate that is being tossed around for the 
>damage in Florida!


They build apartment complexes and highrisers in Hong Kong, while they build
wood-framed plaster-walled houses here.  I heard stories that some person's
new house (wood) was blown away while his old house (brick) still stands.
I guess that's why I look for a brick/stone house instead of wood, even we
don't have hurricane or earthquakes here in the 'Burgh (although we do have
torlados...)

Ray

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: dyko@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Darren Yiu Ming KO)
Subject: Harbour Tunnel
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 21:47:24 GMT


Sydney's harbour tunnel just had its grand opening...which makes me
wonder....how much do we have to pay for crossing HK's harbour tunnel?
Still $10? Haven't been back for a while, so just curious :)

May thy fortunes go with thee.

Darren				 dyko@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au 
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From: yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: For those of you that HATE japaneses
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:01:42 GMT
Organization: Public Access UNIX Information System

In article <1992Aug27.235023.11962@engage.pko.dec.com> li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tong-Kang Li) writes:
>
>Yes, not every non-communism country has been doing well but every communism 
>country has been doing poorly. Right now only 4 communism countries remain 
>on this earth.
>

Four communists coutries??? I can think of four just right from the top
of my head: China, North Korea, Vietnam and Cuba. I am sure there are more
in Africa.

>>But most likely, China would just have been a colony of US if CCP
>                                               ????????????
>>have not taken over the power. 
>
>Wasn't the time CCP called Soviet Union "Our big brother" and Chinese children
>called Stalin "Grandpa Stalin". Colony of Soviet Union? 
>
>When Taiwan was building up her economy and CCP was busy for culture 
>revolution.
>
>Today people in Taiwan making money at least 15 times more than people in 
>Mainland China. And CCP still scratches her head to figure out what is her 
>surname should be? capitalism or socialism. Taiwan is pushing for political 
>reform and CCP is pushing for political repression and HongKong people are 
>filling out immigration form.
>
>Certainly, not everything so negative about Mainland China. Mainland did 
>better than their "big brother" in economy

For the moment, yes. But Russia is moving full force toward a free market
economy while Chinese is still struggling with the question of "Dogma and
butter". If there is no fundamental changes, I say in a decade China will
once AGAIN be left behind.

 and is gradually moving towards 
>market economy which is very encouraging news.
>

Until the next political movement, that is.

>Tom


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.taiwan
From: dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby)
Subject: Re: For those of you that HATE japaneses
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:33:51 GMT

alee@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Alexander Lee) writes:

>Let me make it simpler for "slow to catch on" individuals:

>Who demands apology and compesation? Chinese victims PEOPLE.
>           (NOT Chinese GOVERNMENT! Damn it.)
>Who do they (Chinese victims) demand apology and compensation from?
>       Japanese GOVERNMENT.  (NOT Japanese PEOPLE! Damn it.)

Wrong, the government represents the people (whether they do or
not in reality is another question... :) ), the Chinese government
could take the money and invest in infrastrutures, buildings, and
social engineerings to make up for the loss suffered by China as
a nation.  The Japanese government taxs the Japanese people, so
the Japanese government could pay for it for the people.

>Japanese people suffer NO LESS than Chinese people during the war initiated
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>by the Japanese GOVERNMENT in the name of then Emperor Hirohito. They are
>also the victims of the Japanese Military Government. They are to be 
>sympathied, cared for and loved in the same way as Chinese victims are.

HuH?

Facts:

3 million Japanese died as a result of WW II.
15 million Chinese died as a result of WW II.

Chinese people suffer much more than Japanese people in terms of
numbers, loss of loved-ones, loss of an entire city! (which was
the Capital of ROC at the time!), and WW II also contributes to
the loss of China to the Communists which literally pulled China
backwards 30 years.  If Japs didn't invade, then the Taiwan (ROC)
government would've been in power for the past 50 years, and
China will be one of the most advanced and powerful country in
the world... no doubt about it, just look at current day Taiwan
and HongKong!

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.taiwan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: For those of you that HATE japaneses
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:55:44 GMT

dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby) writes:

>ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura) writes:
>I don't understand why it's considered offensive to call Japanese "Japs".
>When I talk to my fellow Australian friends, they are happy to use *that
>term*.  It wasn't until reading the net that I found out people get offended
>by it.

>Now why is it offensive?


...because it was historically (at least recent history) used in a
purposefully offensive fashion, just as "chink" , "spic" , "hun",
"frog" , etc ...... The Brits and the Yanks (I can claim to be both)
are lucky in that they assigned their own nicknames in a preemptive
strike, of sorts.  Of course if the American Revolution had been lost
by the colonists, then "yank" would probably also be a term of approbation.

Charlie
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From: cc015@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vito T. Kwan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Tsui Hark is the greatest HK film director ever!!
Date: 26 Aug 92 21:53:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


Who said Tsui Hark didn't do well in Once Upon a time in China? Did you
see all Tsui Hark's film? If not, then shut your mouth up.
Once Upon a Time in China (part I) is much better than part II. However,
the structure of the story in part II is better than part I. And Tsui Hark
got his Best Film Director award because of part I last year.
One of the characteristics of Tsui Hark's films is the fast pace. So there
are so many points in part I that he didn't have time to explain so well. Like
the relationship between Jet Lee and Kwan (which Tsui Hark did it in part II).
Peking Opera Blue and Shanghai Blue are the films that show he can reduce his
pace and make some more "artistic" (I hate using this term) films.
In the near fucture, he will direct another "artistic" film, somehow calls
Cyan Snake.

Tsui Hark is the greatest HK film director ever!!!

Reply send to : accvtk@vaxc.hofstra.edu
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From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Birthday and Wedding songs
Date: 28 Aug 92 03:59:31 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne


In article <1992Aug28.013701.16864@netnews.synoptics.com>, khsc@synoptics.com (Simon Chow) writes:
|> Hello, everybody from HK, does any one of you remember two songs that were being
|> play everyday in Comercial Radio around noon time, one of them is a birthday song
|> and the other one is a wedding song.  I remember all the word in the birthday song,
|> however, I have forgotten half of the wedding song, can anybody fill in the missing
|> words in the wedding song?
|> 
|> Here is the birthday song:
|>    gung juk nei fuk sau yu tin chai, 
|>    ging ho nei saang san faai lok.
      ^^^^^
      hing ??
|>    nin nin dou yau gam yat,
|>    sui sui dou yau gam chiu,
|>    gung hei nei, gung hei nei.

Lin Can
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From: rchoy@clarify.com (Raymond Choy)
Subject: Re: Re: For those of you that HATE japaneses (Hey hey, I DON'T HATE you
Organization: Clarify, San Jose
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:18:44 GMT

In article <6130096@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>would happen now. Ha, what happen if Ng Sam Kwai did not invited Ching
>Army into mainland?
>
>Yuk
>

I think the Ming Dynasty would still end. Maybe Lee Chee Shing would become
the King. With Lee's knowledge, he probably would not be a good ruler and 
would cause the country to split again. Consequently, the Ching's Army
took the chance and still be able to take over the mainland (The Ching's
Eight Flag Army was better than any other armies of other tribes at that
time). :-)

-Raymond Choy-
From: cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: One joke a day, keep your girlfriends away
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:56:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cheung's Funky Shop, Co.

O.K.  It is only Tuesday and the only thing that can lift our
spirit is probably a good joke.  My random number generator says
that I should make a "professional" joke this time.  Well, hope
you like what I have to offer you.


-----

The attendant of the men's room of a very swanky restaurant was cleaning
the sinks when three gentlemen entered. They briefly greet him, identifying
themselves as being a scientist, a mathematician and an engineer. With
that all three use the urinals. 

The scientist finished first, came to the sink, and lathered up his hands
and lower arms, scrubbing intensely. After rinsing off and drying, he turned 
to the attendant and said, "Scientists learn to be thorough !"  With that 
he left. 

The mathematician finished next, came to the sink, and quickly splashed
some water on his hands. As he dried them, he remarked to the attendant,
"Mathematicians learn to be concise !"  Then he too left. 

Finally, the engineer finished, but instead of washing his hands, he went 
straight to the door to leave. As he was leaving he turned to the attendant 
and said, 
            "Engineers learn NOT to pee on their hands !"


----------------------

Pirated and modified.
From: dpr@ohm.york.ac.uk (David Rossiter)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Hong Kong
Keywords: names
Date: 30 Aug 92 20:53:30 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

In <5293@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> rkwst+@pitt.edu (Raymond K Wong) writes:


>Personally "Hongkies" gives me chills.

>The British called Hong Kong people "Hongkongites" which is silly too...

No we don't!!

 
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Dave
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From: lix@thames.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: For those of you that HATE japaneses
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:35:52 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.hongkong
Organization: Boston University

In article <ROTEN.92Aug31142755@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov> roten@CUBA.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Roten) writes:
>(deleted)
>Its going to take a _MIRACLE_ for the hardline faction of the CCP to gain 
>more than a marginal say in Chinese affairs.  And every year of sustained 
>economic growth will further marginalize them.  

I am not so optimist about this. You see, the CG is planning the fire 1/3
of its employees, according to report. You can easily imagine a society-
wide complaint worse than in 1988, and you can imagine another TAMS.

Though, I agree on the last sentence.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Hongie Donkey (Was: Re: Housing Construction (Re: Storms in Hong Kong))
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:59:21 GMT

In article <6130098@hpopd.pwd.hp.com> yuk@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Yuk Lun Chan) writes:
>>soc.culture.hongkong / alfred@walt.tmc.edu (Alfred Wu) /  8:00 pm  Aug 28, 1992 /
>
>>Some Malaysian Chinese like to call us HongKees. 
>>Personally, I feel that word some how offending.  I think about Yankee
>>whenever I hear it. 

	It sounds incredibly like DONKEY, that's why I don't like it.
	...As I said.

>
>If you want to make some enemy to them. Just cause them to call you this
>in front of an English. And then look at the face of him /her.
>

	I don't want to make enemies. And not all of them call us
	Hongie donkey anyway? Say this to them whenever they bite, 

	"Hongkong hero, ok?"(just kidding!)

---Cheers,
	Bill
From: onlit@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Drew)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Storms in Hong Kong
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:01:17 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep1.061425.2248@PA.dec.com> yip@wsl.dec.com (Michael Yip) writes:
>...  
>Seriously this is exactly what happens.  For over 19 years I have 
>lived in the US I cannot understand (and am still amazed) why people
>along the US Atlantic coasts and at least, part of the Gulf, don't 
>want to build stronger houses -- they know that EVERY YEAR they have 
>a high probability of getting the hurricane.  The technology is 
>certainly available.
>
>Telling me that it is too costly to build stronger houses is nonsense.
>Look at the damage that it has done now.  Would it be more expensive 
>to have houses and buildings constructed right in the first place to
>withstand this kind of weather, or is it more expensive now to re-build 
>everything from scratch, not to mention the fact the many people's lives 
>are destroyed!
>
Another thing that I don't understand is if the environmentalists are so
concerned with the trees, why they never oppose to houses that made of 
wood?  I can't imagine how many trees will be needed to rebuild Homestead,
Florida and other places.

>Had California not adopted stronger earthquake preventive measures
>in its building, highway, and general construction codes, Oct 18 1989 
>would have been a even bigger than the already HUGE disaster in the 
>San Francisco area.

One day, I watched Beyond 2000 on Discovery.  It showed a new method of 
building houses in New Zealand that could better withstand earthquakes.  
I don't remember the figure on the Richter scale that it can withstand 
though. 

Andrew 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.korean
From: ykyeung@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Michael)
Subject: Computer jobs market in this few months
Keywords: Entry level for university undergraduate
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:17:14 GMT

	Would anyone tell me about the job market in Programmer in Hong
Kong ?
	Thanks.
From: funnyfin@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Tiny-Pin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Storms in Hong Kong
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:17:21 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In Article 24882 of soc.culture.hongkong:
.... (stuff deleted)
>You have reminded me of Hurricane Andrew.  It could have made the No. 10
>typhoon signal in HK.  It's wind speed was 160 mph (or ~256 km/h).  According 
>to the Royal Obersevatory, "this signal will be hoisted as soon as there 
>are definite indications that the sustained wind speed anywhere near sea 
>level in Hong Kong is likely to exceed 117 km/h."   It was way over this 
>limit.
>
>Andrew 
>-- 

True, but still depends on how close the typhoon is. Usually the hurricane
wind-speed (i.e. windspeed over 64 knots) is only confined to the area within
100 km from the eye of the hurricane. If Hurricane Andrew could have hit
Hong Kong, it might be able to break the highest recorded wind speed record in
Hongkong set by Typhoon Rose in 1971. 

BTW, I remember no No.10 Hurricane signal has been hoisted since Typhoon Allen
in 1984, would anyone tell me does any typhoon make close enough this year so 
far? 

					funnyfin@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu




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From: rsanders@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (RRobert M Sanders)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: You can tell ...
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:44:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Sep4.184453.11565
Organization: The Ohio State University

In article <18885jINN2bh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cc015@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Vito
 T. Kwan) writes:
>
>Hi, do you know there is a easy way to tell whether a student in your class
>is from HK? (In most cases) If she/he can spin a pen, she/he is from HK.
>-- 
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I think the best you can do is say that if the person cannot spin a pen/pencil 
then s.he is NOT from Hong Kong.  I say this because most, if not all, of my 
classmates in Taiwan and Peking could also spin their pens/pencils.

Robert Sanders
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
From: mok@fortsc.enet.dec.com (Charles Mok)
Subject: Re: News in People's Daily
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date:  2 SEP 92 09:56:13 PST


In article <92246.103139PXW10@psuvm.psu.edu>, PXW10@psuvm.psu.edu writes...
> 
>      An airline company in Shanghai decided to let olympic gold
>      medalists Zhuang Yong and Yang Wenyi take their any domestic
>      flights for free for lifetime.

Yang is offered life time supply of Coca-Cola by the Chinese distributor as
well, according to SCMP.  But her coach isn't sure if that's good for her 
though.

Charles

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: thomasc@spider.wri.com (Thomas Chin)
Subject: Re: Tsui Hark is the greatest HK film director ever!!
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:33:48 GMT

Vito T. Kwan writes:

>Who said Tsui Hark didn't do well in Once Upon a time in China? Did you
>see all Tsui Hark's film? If not, then shut your mouth up.

I did. Yes, I saw all Tsui Hark's film but one or two. Sorry, it's too late.

>Once Upon a Time in China (part I) is much better than part II. However,
>the structure of the story in part II is better than part I. And Tsui Hark

I just saw part II, which I like much more than part I.  part II is rather
localized, with clear central theme and only a few characters. Tsui Hark's
style romance is now manifested between the plot between Wong Feu Hong and
thirteen Aunt - remember when they separate under the crisis situation. The
time-watching habit of Sun, leading to the importance of time, is also good
Tsui Hark style. The 'shen-Lin' lance work is classical and magnificent.
With the recognition of thirteen Aunt's love, Wong is now more optimistic
and passionate. Tsui Hark is still Tsui Hark!!

>Tsui Hark is the greatest HK film director ever!!!

Yes, he is one of the few talented in HK. We need him.

--Tom
From: jchow@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Johnny Chow)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: How to tell if he/she is from HK?
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:55:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: csus.1992Sep4.205542.12878
Distribution: usa
Organization: San Francisco State University
Originator: jchow@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu

~s How to tell if he/she is from HK? 
>>Hi, do you know there is a easy way to tell whether a student in your class
>>is from HK? (In most cases) If she/he can spin a pen, she/he is from HK.
>>-- 
>
>A lot of mainland Chinese can spin a pen too....  This is not  an
>easy way to tell.......

Oh, I though just by looking at the style they dress up is easy enough.

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