From: schoinas@fox.cs.wisc.edu (Yannis Schoinas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: computer terminology in Greek
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:16:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.schoinas.720998167
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

santas@inf.ethz.ch (Philip Santas) writes:

>In article <schoinas.720895894@cs.wisc.edu> schoinas@fox.cs.wisc.edu (Yannis Schoinas) writes:
>>rizos@cs.man.ac.uk (Rizos Sakellariou) writes:
>>>
>>>Ksekinwntas apo to oti gia tin apodosi tis orologias kyrios
>>>stoxos den einai i akribis metafrasi, alla h katanohsh twn ennoiwn poy
>>>antistoixoyn stoys ksenoys oroys kai h aneyresi Ellinikwn leksewn poy na
>>>apodidoyn to nohma, den nomizw oti einai dyskoli h stadiaki anaptyksi kai
>>>kathierwsi Ellinikwn orwn. Etsi, metafraseis san tis epomenes, nomizw oti
>>>einai apolyta akribeis:
>>
>>Ti ennoeis na apodidoyn to idio nohma? Milame gia oroys oi opoioi apodidoyn
>>ena kainoyrio nohma, kati poy den yphrxe prin 40 xronia. Ara einai kataskeyasmenoi
>>oroi. Giati ua prepei ayth h kataskeyh na epanalhfuei estv se allh glvssa? Ua
>>toys kanei pio katanohtoys?

>Yparxei estw kai mia le3n se opoia6hpote glwssa, pou 6ev eivai kataskeuasmevn?
>Apo tov ouravo mas pesave, h fytrwsave moves tous? Otav o Agglos leei
>car/bus kai o Ellnvas autokhvnto/lewforeio, yphrxav autes oi le3eis priv
>emfavistouv ta prwta ama3ia/lewforeia? Se poia keimeva? Ka mia kai ta
>lewforeia 6ev eivai ellnvikh efeuresn, 8a pei oti metafrasame sta ellnvika
>kapoiov 3evo oro: e, auto kavoume kai e6w. 

dictionary-> car
   car n  \'kar\
    [ME carre, fr. AF, fr. L carra, pl. of carrum, 
        alter. of carrus, of Celt origin; akin to OIr & MW carr 
        vehicle; akin to L currere to run]

dictionary-> bus
 1 bus n  \'b*s\
      pl  bus.es bus.ses
      often attrib 
    [short for omnibus]

dictionary-> omnibus
 1 om.ni.bus n  \'am-ni-(.)b*s\
    [F, fr. L, for all, dat. pl. of omnis all]

Oi lejeis mporei na einai kataskeyasmenes alla toylaxiston gia to levforeio
fainetai poly akribhs metafrash. Oso gia thn agglikh lejh kai stis dyo
periprvseis mporoyme na broyme thn arxh toys merikes xiliades xronia pisv.

Alla to problhma moy den einai ayto. An kapoios oros xrhsimopoieitai apo 
polloys anurvpoys kai gia poly xroniko diasthma ginetai fysikos, eisagetai
sthn glvssa. Den nomizv oti mporei na ginei ayto se mia perioxh me tetoia
taxythta ejelijhs h opoia ligo poly exei mia koinh glvssa (agglikh katagvghs)
se pagkosmio epipedo. An mia texnikh metafrash enos oroy den einai akribhs
einai gia mena axrhsth. An dhmioyrgei asafeies einai axrhsth. Koita kai parakatv.

> Dnla6h 8a leme
>"phga me to bus stnv Omoveia" epei6h 6ev prepei va kataskeuazoume le3eis?
>Kai pws 8a milagame? Me vohmata? Periergo epixeirnma...

Poses lejeis mporeis na metafrazeis petyxhmena kaue xrono?

>_Oti_ yparxei se morfh glwssas, eivai kataskeuasmevo, kai alles kataskeues
>epibiwsav, kai alles esbnsav. Ola eivai 8ema memetikhs.

>>>   Compiler = Metaglwtisths
>>
>>Nai, isvs o oros parolo poy den einai akribhs na exei kauiervuei...

>Tn mia les oti 6ev mporei va apo6i6ouv to i6io vonma, tnv alln psaxveis
>gia to i6io vonma... Ti 6ev sou aresei sto "Metaglwtisths", kai ti parapavw
>briskeis sto "Compiler"?

Sthn Krhth to onoma toy mauhmatos htan: Glvsses kai Metafrastes. 
Bebaia, metafrasths kai metaglvtisths einai mallon to idio pragma.

Alla h anapodh metafrash poy ua ekana einai translator to opoio einai
kati allo apo ton compiler. H diadikasia den einai aplvs metafrash
alla kai synenvsh diaforetikvn kommativn se mia ontothta. Ayto akribvs
xanetai sthn ellhnikh metafrash. Koita to akribes nohma ths lejhs.

 com.pile vt  \k*m-'pi(*)l\
    [ME compilen, fr. MF compiler, fr. L compilare to 
        plunder]
      1 : to collect into a volume
      2 : to compose out of materials from other documents

					Xairetv,
					Giannis.
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