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From: raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez)
Subject: Re: **** A1200 Info **** (200+ lines)
Organization: UPR-Mayaguez--ASEL Lab
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:21:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.203013.4125@imada.ou.dk>, micro@imada.ou.dk (Klaus Pedersen) writes:
|> bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block) writes:
|> >You could also use BOBs.  You'd have to use the base 64-color
|> >registers for the background and make your BOB's in ham surrounded by
|> >one of the base 64 colors on one side.  But careful planning of your
|> >graphics could make that indistinguishable. 
|> 
|> OK, "the background can have 64 colours, right!"
|> - That is not very nice do you think so?
|>   Even an A500 can do that.
|> 
|> "But the BOBS can have real HAM inside! Wow!" 
|> - Why not use 64 colours for the background and the 192 for the BOBS?
|> 
|> 
|> On the Falcon030 you can have 65536 colour background and 65536 colour 'BOBS'.
|> (even though it probaly is faster to plot them with the CPU).
|> (65536 colours is a differend colour to every pixel in a 256x256 pixel sprite!)
|> 
|> I think that the cookie-cut-sprites in Falcon030-true-colour mode is much 
|> faster than HAM8 AGA cookie-cut-BOBS.

   Not if done the way specified above.

|> The Falcon030 uses 1 wordaccess for each 2 truecolour pixels (written w.
|> movem.l).
|> 
|> The AGA BOBS uses 4 wordaccesses per 16 bits of the BOBS. 
|> This is (4*8/16 = 2 wordaccesses/pixel), 4 times slower than the Falcon030.

   Hmmm.... I think this is wrong.... it's 8 word access per 32 bits which
 would be   8->1 
          -------
            32 pixels -> 4 pixels

   So it is 1 word access for 4 pixels.  Also, you are not taking into
account blitter use.


|> 
|> 
|> Which one will have the fastest graphics, -and- the most colours?

   Fastest graphics?  THE AMIGA of course... you Falcon guys keep
*forgetting* THE SPRITES! (and dual-playfields...).

   More colors?  THE AMIGA (24 bit palette).

  
|> 
|> -Klaus


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From: birjt@cc.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Re: Word Processors for Amiga & IBM.
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:59:18 GMT

In article <69186@cup.portal.com>, Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com writes:
>>>NOOOOoooOOOOO!  You'd better not compare Ami Pro 3.0 or Word for Windows 2.0
>>>to an Amiga word processor - then you'd have _nothing_ to post about.
>>
>>Have you actually used FinalCopy II?  I would choose that over WP any day.
>>I've also used Word for Windows at work and I can't say it is any more
>>superior to FinalCopy.  It sure as hell doesn't have the flexiability of
>>FinalCopy's ARexx interface.
> 
> You obviously never need to generate documents with:
>    *  Footnotes
>    *  Tables
>    *  Table of Contents/Figures/Tables
>    *  Indices
> 
> If you need any of these features on an Amiga WP, you're S.O.L.  You've
> got to go to TeX (a very nice package, but NOT a word-procesor).
> 
> Because of this, I never do serious (>2 pages) documents on the Amiga.
> I hope someday one of the Amiga WPs will do these, but in the meantime,
> I keep booting up AMax.
> 
> Lee      Lee_Robert_Willis@cup.portal.com

My name isn't SOL but I have Excellence! and it does almost all of these. In
fact the only thing it doesn't do that prevents me recommending it to everybody
is tables. Output to a non-Postscript printer is not the best but I am of the
opinion that if you are going to get a laser printer then you should get PS
anyway.

Word has a lot of features, no agurement here, but I feel that most of these
belong in a DTP program and only get in the way of text processing. When
Excellence! get Hotlinks and tables and PageStream learns about page breaks I
will not want for anything (well??) more in document preparation. Now Phillip
(sp), I don't have a call for equation generation, although a dedicated
hotlinked program would fit nicely.

Russell.

PS. Skip, most lurkers are made not born, it is difficult to participate in a
discussion when there is a 4 day lag in messages, not counting the volume in
this  group.

Russell Tayler, Biology Dept, Uni of Newcastle, OZ 
          BIRJT@cc.newcastle.edu.au
          <If God had ment us to worry, he would have given us ALL clones>

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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: Falcon's Super was: FALCON SPEED ......
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:49:55 GMT

In article <ygk1!=@rpi.edu> oyakea@warren1a.its.rpi.edu (Amalaye Oyake) writes:

>    I talked to a Media Arts Professor at my school. He was very impressed 
>with the Falcon. He said it is an amazing machine, and it is no doubt.
>It is super, like it or not. With true 030, 32 bit ram, dsp, 16bit audio,
>SCSI II, 16bit graphics (no dumb dependence on interlace, I get to choose)

Since when is the AGA chipset dependent on interlace? And if you're using
a computer in a media production context, this "dumb" feature is essential.

>Audio in and out, midi, lan port, enhanced joystick and input selectors,
>dsp port etc. NOW TELL ME WHY WOULD I WANT A 1200 ?

Longevity? Software support? Third-party development?

> What am I going to do with AGA alone ? It has none, should I use caps,
>okay, NONE OF THE ABOVE LISTED FEATURES OF THE FALCON. It is a TOY for
>me, and would not be the TOOL the falcon would be.

Most tools are ineffective in a vacuum. Besides, the Falcon has yet to
materialize and these essential attributes (MIDI, lan port, DSP) are
not available on *any* other platform in this price range either. Do you
see system administrators clamouring to buy Falcons? I thought not.  

>I could very nice things with a Falcon, whereas a 1200 guy is droolling
>ONLY over AGA. And besides if I get a 1200, I must choose when I'm buying
>it if I want an fpu or else it's no fpu for me. THAT SUCKS !! It has no
>bloody fpu slot ( damn !! says an Amiga user, don't think I didn't hear
>that ). The Falcon does, "ha ha" and is that nice?

Anyone who puts an FPU in an '020 system is a tweaker anyway. Look, a
25 Mhz '030 accelerator, FPU slot and space for 8 MB of RAM *lists*
for $250 for the A500/+. Use your imagination.

>So don't even compare your toy with my tool.

Your words, not mine.

By all means, buy a Falcon and let us know how you make out. The success
of Atari ultimately affects CBM as well. In fact, the best thing to 
happen to the Amiga in a while is the Falcon (niche competition).
From: griffin@eecae.ee.msu.edu (Danny Griffin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: NO MORE *&#*$(^*& FEMALE BIMBO ADS!!!!!!!!
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:07:52 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:

>Actually, I refuse to purchase products from companies that drape women
>over their hardware as mere garnish.

Me too.  They didn't even include the woman with the last bit of hardware
I ordered.  Now what am I going to do with a 48" pipe wrench?

>and buy magazines like Cosmopolitan, Vogue, Elle by the millions.

'Course, Cosmo could advertise products like Summer's Eve with pictures of
large, overweight women on a hot summer day.  Face it -- beauty sells.
Look at how many people flame a company for an ugly computer case.  Are
we not DEVO?  We are men.
-- 
Dan Griffin                    "You stand there with your fixed expression, 
griffin@egr.msu.edu             casting doubt on all I have to say..."
  The true test of Clinton's devotion to the American people will be if he 
  gets rid of the import tariff on German wine!
From: kontos@clipper.ingr.com (Thorne Kontos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: A few comments about productivity (short rant!)
Keywords: Word for Windows - tried it, no thanks...
Date: 13 Nov 92 21:15:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Intergraph Advanced Processor Division - Palo Alto, CA

Every so often, I update my resume. So here is my experience with
Word for Windows. Why did I use it? Mainly to get the output done
on a laser printer. My foolish mistake was not in realizing that
Word is definitely NOT WYSIWYG.

Basically I wanted all major headers in BOLD (using the same font)

<BOLD>     HEADER 
plain      * job skill 1
           * job skill 2

Please note the alignment - a perfect straight row up and down. When
I printed the resume, nothing lined up...NOTHING. And I was not about
to count the stupid dots by sticking my nose two inches away from the 
monitor. I ended up printing and reprinting until everything was aligned.
Was this productive - NO. The worse part of all this was I could have
accomplished the same task on the Amiga using ProWrite (the first version)
in a quarter of the time. For those of you that bitch, I never read the
instructions for ProWrite, so why should I have to for Word for Windows.

Was I productive with Word for Windows? NO. (TWO HOURS wasted and it still
wasn't quite right - small alignment errors due to Fonts not being the
same when in BOLD.) I could have done the job faster with a typewriter.
And that is no lie. No wonder American business is in its current state,
with such useful tools as Word. HAHAHAHAHA!



 
                              
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From: schumacher-jeffrey@cs.yale.edu (Jeffrey Schumacher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: NO MORE *&#*$(^*& MENSTRUAL JOKES
Date: 5 Nov 1992 17:03:46 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: tiger.zoo.cs.yale.edu

In article <1992Nov5.200102.3941@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> seifert@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael S. Seifert) writes:

>uh, I would think it would be pretentious for anyone from the state o cheese
>to use words with more than three syllables, but hey, its ok to try, greg...

I would think it pretentious for anyone who attends Purdue University
to use words with more than three syllables.  Actually, this statement
is silly, just as your statement about "anyone from the state o
cheese" is silly.  Your comments demonstrate how bigoted you are: you
make derogatory comments about a whole state based on the responses of
*one* person from that state.  If you must flame one person, fine;
please don't show your immaturity by flaming everyone from the same
state!

BTW, before you make comments about Wisconsin's educational system,
check the facts.  For example, isn't its state university system
regarded as one of the finest in the nation?

Now, everyone, please let this stupid thread END!  It doesn't belong
in comp.sys.amiga.advocacy.  Mr. Seifert, if you would like to make
comments to me, send them via private e-mail, okay?  Everyone else,
please simply ignore Mr. Seifert's postings unless they are related to
the Amiga.  Mr. Seifert is like a teenager who makes prank telephone calls: he
just wants to get a response.  He won't go away unless he doesn't get
any attention.

>mike seifert, defender of the american way (much like judy reisman)

Jeff Schumacher, from Wisconsin and damn proud of it!

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From: pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: GOOD Ads
Date: 13 Nov 1992 20:21:28 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <1992Nov13.171337.22948@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>[Re Gateway2000 having glossy ads]
>
>>>Nothing like carcinogenic dye in your water table.
>
>Not that I care ,but you might be interested in knowing that those
>ads use some sorta environment organic ink.  Read the ad.  (!)

I have one of the ads right here (Oct. '92 BYTE).  On the last page,
right next to the Gateway 2000 logo, it says "Printed on recycled
paper", "Global Releaf", and "Printed with SOY INK".  This ad is so
organic I think you could eat it! :-)

Paul
-- 
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pss1@kepler.unh.edu
Synthetic Vision and Pattern Analysis Laboratory
UNH Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering
From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:36:42 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>	That's crazy.  I am very interested in computers, I simply need
>my computer to do more than the Amiga cn offer.  And believe it or not,
>a PC can be equipped to do more for me than an Amiga could ever.

Out of curiosity, what sort of equipment does you PC have that isn't available
for the Amiga?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Asteroid Ideas
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Date: 10 Nov 92 09:55:39 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <1992Nov9.181919.11925@athena.mit.edu>, fihsu@athena.mit.edu (Hsu I-wei) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.015136.136@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> seifert@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Michael S. Seifert) writes:
>>Ive just finished an open-ended asteroids clone, but find that I still have
>
>Cool! Hopefully it will outdo the current Asteroids clone (sometimes crashes)
>and Lemmingoids (too easy).
>
>>a lot of cpu time left over, so I was trying to think of things to add....
>>Does anyone remember some of the old vector arcade games?  There was one
>>where two people could play at once that had some nice extra features, but
>>I dont remember what they were...  
>>Right now, the program has:
>>One or two player option (simultaneously)
>>Player shields (dont know if I like this, though... may be an option instead of
>>hyperspace...)

add the ability to shoot each other if that option is on...would make for great
combat...flying around trying to blow each other away while avoiding those
huge tumbling asteroids....ikes!!

>
>>
>>mike seifert, spewer
>
>Francis
>
>

Jim
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From: davidme@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (David Meiklejohn)
Subject: Re: Oh my God! Help my friend not buy an IBM!
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 02:38:20 GMT

In article <jasonb.721537237@wambenger> jasonb@cs.uwa.oz.au (Jason S Birch) writes:
>
>ALRIGHT!!! Let's start a "my-clone-which-I-hate-blows-away-yours-anyday"
>war! I have a machine here at uni the same as Skip's except it only has
>one 245M harddrive, and another 33MHz 486 EISA machine with mostly the
>same except no sound card but with 64Megs of RAM.

That's all very well, but we don't all waste money on high end PCs.  The
attitude around here is, if you need 64 megs, you're doing something real, so
go the whole way and get a workstation!  So, my 486 here is only a DX33, with
8 megs, an 80 MB HD, and a Tseng SVGA.  But, I'm waiting for an upgrade of a
SPARCstation 2 to a new SPARC 10 (86 MIPS !) with 64 MB RAM, and two 1.3 GB
hard drives.  So, I'm not real impressed by these killer 486's of yours...

 :-)

> The only other things they get used for is tetris under
>DOS and minesweeper under Windows 3.1, and occasionally writing up
>papers using Word for Windows 2.0. We use the Sun's for pretty much
>everything else.

Exactly.  You can get Sun versions of Tetris, ya know...

>Please do! My project involves animation, so if you can show the A4000
>is worthwhile I might be able to convince my supervisor to buy one :). I
>can dream, can't I?

Personally, I think that if you lot can blow money on high-end PCs that you
don't use much, you must be rolling in it, so go with an SGI system!

>Internet: jasonb@cs.uwa.edu.au  _--_|\	Mr Jason Birch

-- 
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 - Regional support guy for PC's, Unix, and networks thereof.
 - But I'd rather be using an AMIGA!  Wouldn't you?
Find me in Mareeba, Australia (on the pointy bit in the northeast)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Re: PowerPC: how much of a threat?
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:48:34 GMT

dleland@dante.nmsu.edu (LELAND) writes:

>I keep hearing ye olde rumors floating around that the Power PC being built
>by Apple and IBM is going to be the greatest computer ever made since the
>world began. It will cost 5 cents, raise the dead, stop time, talk to God,
>display 600 bajillion colors at a resolution of a bajillion by a bajillion,
>etc. Everybody will own one, and every other comper will become a doorstop. 

  Well, if Microsoft decided to port NT to the PowerPC, I think PowerPC
machines would become THE RISC computer, especially given the price
of the chip vs the Pentium and Alpha for example.

  For political reasons though, Microsoft isn't likely to port NT, just
like they haven't announced their Macintosh ported version of NT.

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From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga sightings and other things positive.
Date: 10 Nov 92 10:22:01 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Nov8.192504.6710@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
 >
 >In other matters, I will be the proud owner of an A4000 in a day or so and
 >will be showing it along with an A3000 and Toaster equipped A2000 at the
 >campus computer fair.  

How about using a VCR and showing that Toaster promotional video?
Just as one idea among hopefully many others.

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From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga sightings and other things positive.
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:51:57 GMT
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not necessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.

Quoth gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington):

]> >Me? Well, I failed to recognize the hidden talisman on level 56,703 of
]> >BLAZEMONGER, and now my k,n and q keys are permanently disabled.
]> 
]> Maybe just temporarily...
]> 
]> I have yet to try BLAZEMONGER--I don't think my old A500 could take it.
]> (Although I hear that a computer is not actually needed to play...)

This is true.  Almost any household appliance will work.  However, I have
found a bug.  Be very careful around the kitchen appliances.  I tried using
it in a toaster and it got confused looking for the "newKikiEffects"
hardware register and welll....

well, the eyebrows are growing back pretty evenly, so no big deal.

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From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: Monitor for the 1200
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:09:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.070016.847@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> nwickham@nyx.UUCP (Neal Wickham) writes:

<Monitor and mode questions deleted>

>HAM8 can be done in all the dozzen or so modes.  The big disadvantage of
>the 1084 is that in high-res modes, the display will have to be interlaced
>and you'll have the ol' Amiga flicker.  I think another viable option will
>be a VGA monitor.  You don't get all the modes with it but (I think) it
>will at least give you a high-res mode without interlace.  I don't know
>all the pros and cons of VGA monitors.  Some do interlace for the higher
>resolution of 724X1024 or whatever it is.  Could someone comment on VGA
>with AGA? ...or XVGA and AGA?  All those cheap VGA monitors out there
>look interesting.   
>
>                                     NCW

I have been using a relatively cheap SVGA monitor for the past year with
my A3000 and will be using it with an A4000 in a day or so.  I understand
that some modes will be unusable, especially the 15kHz modes and most 
likely the 24kHz 800x300/600i modes.  I hope that the DblNTSC and DblPAL
modes work, but some have said that they are closer to 29kHz and may not
work with the SVGA monitors.  If it doesn't work, I'll be in the market
for a multisync that does real soon.  I also have access to about a dozen
different makes and models of monitors in the CS department that I will
test with the A4000 and post the results on the net.  Not exactly Consumer
Reports type testing, but enough to see how well they work, if at all.

Skip Sauls
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
From: lozinski@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (David Lozinski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Games and the C64
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:50:55 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I read the article about 'Racing Destruction Set'. Boy that was an AWESOME
game! I used to make tracks of all kinds. I usually held a neighborhood
competition/tournament on that thing. 

Archon was the chess style like game for the C64. I don't even think 
games like Battle Chess I or II for the Amiga come close. One nice thing
about Archon was the magic and the was no guaranteed winner of a move. I
beat the Unicorns several times with the pawns that carry the clubs! That's
one of the few games I boot my C64 up to play with.

I hope the game developers that developed these games are reading this
group and getting a hint, like how about some really good ports!

lozinski@csugrad.cs.vt.edu