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Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 15 Oct 1992 16:19:57 MST
From: <ICSCH@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: STORY: "Timesync"
 <92286.103044ICSCH@ASUACAD.BITNET> <1992Oct15.151205.1@indyvax.iupui.edu>

There are five chapters to "Timesync."  I would welcome suggestions and
comments.  -- Scott Hume
From: lidz@quads.uchicago.edu (adam lidz)
Subject: Sela on Rolmulus
Reply-To: lidz@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:29:35 GMT

Who says the one on the C survived?

Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Coming Soon: ST:TNG-Tales of the Mirror Universe (TotMU)
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:33:24 GMT
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

Hmm, I kind of like the parallel universe idea - you can get away with all
kinds of nasty things. Perhaps I should write one, too...

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From: wgarmil@world.std.com (Wayne S Garmil)
Subject: Re: Coming Soon: ST:TNG-Tales of the Mirror Universe (TotMU)
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:12:02 GMT

Gyus, I hate to say this, but you're late doing this.  Not only have there 
been two previous MM:TNG stories been posted last year, there's a magazine
dedicated to this called the Tantalis Field.  Sorry, but I don't have the
address available on hand.  I'll post it tomorrow (once I find it :)

Thought others would want to know about the magazine.

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From: andy@csource.oz.au (andrew gulovsen)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: STMOW-require pts 17 and 19
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:25:08 +1000

hi all..

can someone please email pt 17 and pt 19 to me at:

andy@csource.cec.edu.au

thanx in advance

ag

 * Origin: Andy's BBS - Melb Aust - +61-3-357-3414 (3:635/503)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: edd159psft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: Leaptrek
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 08:04:58 GMT

Hi all
Can someone please re-post leaptrek. I think I missed it.  If not post could
you please email it to me.
From: sdh5@po.CWRU.Edu (Scott D. Hurley)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Potential Story--Advice requested
Date: 11 Oct 1992 23:35:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


Okay, I've been thinking about writing a story for the ST: TNG
period, have most of the details worked out, and am beginning to
seriously contemplate writing it.  Before I do so, however, I
would like to pose the story premise here, and thereby get advice
on its possible content or paths to take it.

Story Premise:  A Federation starship (most likely _Enterprise_
	but *not* necessarily) encounters a badly-damaged
  	starship built upon hyper-tesseract lines modified with a
   	sphere as a base (Note:  Essential part of the plot). All
	attempts to hail the ship fail, and sensors can detect no
	recognisable internal structure due to the ships five-
	dimensional nature.  *HOWEVER*, the ship's crew, what is
	left of it, can detect the Federation ship just fine,
	and, using a shipboard Psi (*not* necessarily someone like
	Deanna Troi--seriously, I'm sick of having every entity to
	encounter the _Enterprise_ end up possessing her) as a
	beacon, send the remnants of their crew across to the 
	Federation ship.  From this point it becomes quickly 
	apparent that the interlopers are from a *HEAVILY*
	psionic civilization, and that they consider non-psi's
	to be second-class citizens, and with psi's without
        mind-shields (Re: people like Deanna) to be mere chattle.
	Said individuals proceed to wreak havoc on the ship by
	usurping control (Note: Their telepaths can 'download'
	*huge* amounts of information from a person's mind and
	then use it) and scrabbling to prepare for *Something*
	that's coming.  Their story begins to emerge when they
	encounter a few prominent Psi's aboard ship (i.e. Vulcans)
	and they inform the Federation that they are from an
	alternate timeline, and that they *fled* here, and fear they
	are still being pursued by a foe that are to the Borg as
	an IRS Tax Auditor is to a street-corner prophet preaching
	salvation (Note: I created this opponent during independent
	musings over a year *before* the Borg were introduced, so
	any similarities are purely *coincidental).  Other subplots
	are busy being contemplated at this point . . .

Okay, there it is, in *very* rough draft form the premise for the
first part of the episode.  Critiques?  Comments?  

Note:  Incoherence in this article is due to typing into the net
       *without* an editor system.  The story would be Word 
	Processed, and posted to the system using somebody else's
	editor to convert it.

Thanks Ahead.

Scott D. Hurley
-- 
"What is it to die? . . . All these *memories* will be lost in
 time--like tears in the rain . . ." Roy in _Blade_Runner_
"A single spark will illuminate the darkness, no matter how great
 or vast the darkness be . . . or how feeble the light."--Scott
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: jfarmer@fraser.sfu.ca (Jason Michael Farmer)
Subject: FTP sites
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:07:35 GMT

Is there a list of FTP sites around?

Jason Farmer
jfarmer@fraser.sfu.ca
From: kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Coming Soon: ST:TNG-Tales of the Mirror Universe (TotMU)
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:51:06 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <BvzBzB.J4E@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v038hjzu@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Number VI) writes:
> 
>      These stories are going to take the stories of ST:TNG
> and replace the main characters (our beloved crew of The
> Enterprise) with their Mirror Universe counterparts (the 
> universe of "Mirror, Mirror" of TOS).

ARGH! Does *EVERYONE* think of stuff like this at the same time?!? :)

Actually, I've been brainstorming my version of the TNG Mirror
universe, and may yet post it too...  I'm going to do my own thing
with them, rather than modifying the tv show, so I don't see any
problem...

>      Thanks in advance and I hope you enjoy!

Yeah, I'll take a look at it.
-- 
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PhoneNet: (502) 745-4246   (Bowling Green, KY) | K A /\ /\ I E T I
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From: katz@lourie.und.ac.za (Moran Katz)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: WANTED: The Witness by Kathry Aikin
Date: 7 Oct 1992 07:43:11 GMT
Organization: University of Natal (Durban), South Africa
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X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Hi

Thanks to all who sent me copies of The Witness.  It actually is archived
but I blinked as the directory list scrolled past.

Thanks again 

Cool story!

Chers
Moran
From: kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Coming Soon: ST:TNG-Tales of the Mirror Universe (TotMU)
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:32:54 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <Bw4z84.7rt@world.std.com>, wgarmil@world.std.com (Wayne S Garmil) writes:
> Gyus, I hate to say this, but you're late doing this.  Not only have there 
> been two previous MM:TNG stories been posted last year, there's a magazine

Well, I'm eventually posting it anyway.  *My* version is probably a
little different.  Besides, it's all non-canon anyway.  With the
brainstorming I've done on this, I'm *not* abanoning it.  Flames to
me, not to the net.

> dedicated to this called the Tantalis Field.  Sorry, but I don't have the
> address available on hand.  I'll post it tomorrow (once I find it :)

By all means, yes.
-- 
Mark Kinney [KINNEMA@WKUVX1.(BITNET)(WKU.EDU)] | Give me Slack OR KILL ME!
PhoneNet: (502) 745-4246   (Bowling Green, KY) | K A /\ /\ I E T I
Grand High Priest-type Person of the Church for Zen Discordian SubGenii
Quote of the week: "So how can you tell if she's made of wood?"
		"Build a bridge out of her!"
			-- "Monty Python and the Holy Grail"
From: felix@ocf.berkeley.edu (Felix Ling)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: To bring back Tasha for good
Date: 12 Oct 1992 23:28:44 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: hailstorm.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct12.101506.10445@bsu-ucs.uucp> 02maferguson@bsu-ucs.uucp writes:
>You said that it wouldn't be a problem to send me a synopsis of what
>happened in "Redemption II"
>Please do.

"Redemption II"?  I thought you wanted "Yesterday's Enterprise".  I don't
remember "Redemption II" that well, since I really hated it.  I don't seem
to be able to e-mail you, by the way, so if you want a "Yesterday's
Enterprise" synopsis, I'll have to post it.

>Also has thre been any episodes where the Enterprise or any other ship
>traveled back in time?  

Several in the old series, don't remember which.  NG had "Time's Arrow",
where the crew, not the ship, went back in time.  "Cause and Effect" had
the Enterprise in a time-loop and the Bozeman came forward in time.
"A Matter of Time" had Rasmussen's stolen time machine, which went both
forward and backward several times, I'm sure.  "Time Squared" had Picard
on a shuttle that went back in time to meet the Enterprise-D (although it
might not have been really Picard).  I think that's about it.

>I know in the movie "The Voyage Home" Kirk and his crew did it?  
>Still trying to figure out they did it?  

Break the warp 10 barrier via a slingshot around a star.  They did it in
the old series by some sorta jumpstart of the warp drive or something.
Of course, the Enterprise-D can already go faster than the what warp 10
was in the old series, but why they don't time travel is never explained.
Possibly 'cuz they thought easy time-travel was rather lame and chose to
ignore its existence.

>Also would the Federation have any knowledge on cloaking devices?

Official explanation is that they have it, but it doesn't work too well on
starships shaped the way the Federation makes them.

Also make for some pretty silly shots of invisible ship maneuvers.  :-)

Felix Ling

P.S. In my opinion, if you're going to do a time-travel story, you really 
oughtta make it really different so that it stands out, like "Yesterday's
Enterprise" or "Cause and Effect".  There's enough mediocre time-traveling
stories out there as it is.
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: hillel@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (hillel.e.markowitz)
Subject: Re: leaptrek i + ii- miss
Organization: AT&T Federal Systems
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:37:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.3882.3989@dosgate> "steve willer" <steve.willer@canrem.com> writes:
>
>DA>I seem to have missed the first two parts of Leaptrek II.  Could someonw plea
>  >re-post them?  Also, does Leaptrek (the first one) contain the first two
>  >chapters?  The files I recieved were Leaptrek and Leaptrek: the rest of it.
>  >Leaptrek is chapter 1 and L:TR is chapter 3. Should there be a part in betwee
>
>Or, better yet, someone put them in files and tell us where we can get it by
>FTP or dial-up.
>---
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Leaptrek II is on thae archive in ftp.cis.ksu.edu in directory
/pub/Startrek/stories/new as are a large number of others that have
been posted on this net.  If you have anonymous ftp access, please
check there *first* before posting a request. Joseph Young posts
his archive information every month as a FAQ response.

The main directory for stories is /pub/Startrek/stories and there
are a number of .jpg picture files in /pub/Startrek/pictures which
points to /pub/pictures/jpg/Startrek.  Programs to handle that
format are in /pub/JPEG though the sun program xv handles both .gif
and .jpg.

Startrek audio files are in /pub/Startrek/Sparcsounds which points
to /pub/Sun/Sparcsounds/Startrek.

Hope this info proves useful.

Hillel Markowitz        H_Markowitz@att.com
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: rt16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Edward Timlin)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Leaptrek: the rest of it
Date: 11 Oct 92 01:23:54 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


     Well, I can't seem to reach Katriena Knights by e-mail, so I guess I'll
post my comments here...

     Just wanted to drop you a line to compliment you on a fine pair of
stories. I enjoyed both Leaptrek and Leaptrek II thoroughly (made sure I saved
copies for myself :-)

     Now for a question: is there a possibility of a Leaptrek III? Maybe Sam
could leap into Classic Trek on his way back from his TNG leaps :-)

     Again, thank you for a terrific couple of stories.

                                                      -Robb Timlin
                                                       rt16@andrew.cmu.edu
From: James_Neal@cryo.RAIN.COM (James Neal)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: STORY:Hows this 4 a plot?
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:32:36 GMT
Organization: Cryogenic Software - Portland, OR
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.25 beta (Oct 02 1992)


I can't really say anything about the rest of the plot but if Romulus is
anything like they said Earth was in some book, the transporters would
be the favored means of transportation so one more transporter bleep
wouldn't look like much...


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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: hello trekkies, one question
From: guest46@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:01:15 GMT
Organization: Wesleyan University, Middletown, CT USA

Has anybody heard the rumors about a new series the 'Next Next Generation' ?
From: 02maferguson@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: ex
Date: 8 Oct 92 02:36:30 GMT

Hello

    Just recently I have had the urge to write a STTNG novel but...
before I do i need all the information I can get from episodes
concerning LT. Tasha Yar and her Daughter whom I believe is like a
military leader for the Romulain empire.
Also if i can get information on the episode where Picard and his crew
go through a time loop and meet up with Enterprise-C after they just been
attacked by Romulian warbirds.
Second if I can get information on the the episode where Lt. Yar's daughter
tell's Picard what happened to Tasha after she and the surviving crew of
the Enterprise-C are captured by the Romulian's.  What exactly did she tell
Picard about Tasha.
One last question what episode was it where the enterprise traveled through
time, and how did achieve it?

I would greatly appreciate anything at all to help with this book.
P.s. If anyone has a idea what about what this novel is about, and is
wanting join in this endeavor...hey your more than welcome to beam aboard.

Mark Ferguson
Ball State Univ.
317-285-6256
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca (Edna Mueller)
Subject: Get lost! (was:  Please Help)
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:01:19 GMT

>              Please answer these 9 questions and return.

OK, sure, I'll bite!

1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?
Yes                  [X]   	because Picard says s

2.) Are you pro choice?
Yes                  [X]	I believe that everyone should have a 
				choice between which Trek, classic
				or TNG, they want to watch.

3.) Are you in favor of adoption?
Yes                  [X]	but only with Klingons.  The R'uustai
				from "The Bonding" was pretty cool,
				candles, knives and stuff.
				SoS jlH batlh SoH!
4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
rights and responsibilities before fetal viability?
Haven't heard enough [X]	Is that before or after my pod has been
				inseminated?

5.) What sex are you?  
Female             [X]

6.) How old are you?
Over 65            [X]		Who am I?  Well, Guinan, of course!


7.) What religion are you?
Other              [X]		A follower of the Great Bird of the Galaxy.


8.) What political party are you affiliated with?
Other              [X]		Party for a Free Universe.


9.) How many years of education have you completed?
Starfleet Acadmey  [X]		Class of 2354


This was fun, but kept this crap off the star trek newsgroups, especially
if you don't say why you want this information and who you are!

				Schmeby
					    mueller@cage.eng.mcmaster.ca
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                "Oops". -- Jean-Luc Picard, "Pen Pals"
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From: v038hjzu@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Number VI)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: TotMU answers and thoughts
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:35:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


     First, I do know about the Mirror, Mirror TNG  stories
in the archives, but have yet to figure out this ftp thing.
(It's my terminal-I'm convinced it's sentient and hates me).
     Also, I know about The Tantalus Field (a mag about 
Mirror Mirror stories) and have tried to no avail to get 
a subscription address.  I would _really_ appreciate it .
Thanks.
     I'm glad they're finally coming out with a Mirror,
Mirror Universe novel, I've been waiting for one for years.
     About my stories:  The way I'm thinking now, the 
universe is the same except that the mission of exploration
is one of conquering.  The Klingons and Romulans are the
same.  Although the Borg might not be.  
     This is what I figure.  In the MU, they would have no 
reservations about using 3 of 5 (Hugh) as a living "bomb"
to destroy the Borg.  So the Borg are history.  Bye Borg.
     Anyway thanks for all your feedback (even yours, S.S.)
and I hope to be getting around to writing again soon.

                             B.S.
From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Coming Soon: ST:TNG-Tales of the Mirror Universe (TotMU)
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:27:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>>      These stories are going to take the stories of ST:TNG
>> and replace the main characters (our beloved crew of The
>> Enterprise) with their Mirror Universe counterparts (the 
>> universe of "Mirror, Mirror" of TOS).

>ARGH! Does *EVERYONE* think of stuff like this at the same time?!? :)

     Of course.  Become a professional writer - particularly in
     Hollywood - and you find that there's no such thing as an
     original idea.  It comes to 50 different people at the
     exact same instant.

     Case in point: Diane Duane's first TNG novel, a hardcover,
     will be out before the new year or sometime shortly
     thereafter.  It is called THROUGH A GLASS DARKLY.
     It is about the "Mirror" universe.

     This phenomena is called "Independant Creation."
          Ain't it a mutherfucker?

                 Shortly  thereafter, the health of  Annie
                 Blackburn still in question, the behavior
                 of Special Agent  Dale Cooper was noticed
                 __________________________to have changed.
                                              Scott Gorcey.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 15:52:05 EDT
From: <LEN101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: The Viglilate 1-3

Following are parts 1 thru 3 of "The Vigilante" a story I've
been working on, on and off, since the begining of the summer.
parts 1 and 2 were previously post and now include some slight
changes or fixes pointed out the first time I posted.--includeing
spell checking (I think).

Recently I've been inspired while working on part 3 so I've split
it up and will be posting part 3B SOON.
I know some will say I'm premature posting at least before I've
got all of part three completed, maybe, but the well has been so
dry lately I figured you'd appreciate seeing something new.

The changes I've made to parts 1 and 2 are pretty minor
and mostly cosmetic so if you keep stories I would recommend
just copying them over what you already have.

I've also evened the lengths up between the first two parts
but like I said no major changes.

as always, creative feedback is welcome and greatly appreciated.

coming very soon
The Vigilante IIIB  "The Warriors"
coming sometime this fall hopefully
The Vigilante IV    "The Ring of Spears"

Larry

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I have no doubt at all the Devil grins,  |
    As seas of ink I splatter.           |   Lawrence E. Nagy
Ye gods, forgive my "literary" sins-     |   LEN101@psuvm.psu.edu
    The other kind don't matter.         |
                        R. W. Service    |
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
trivia question: can anybody find the specific quotes that Vig IV is
going to be using?
From: 02maferguson@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re:Sela on Rolmulus
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:06:32 GMT

In reference to Item 2706

So what are you saying?
That Sela is actually Tasha?
Well that could be true but lets remember the episode called 
Yesterdays Enterprise where Guinan told Tasha that she
wasn't suppose to be here."
Now if the Romulians brainwashed her after Enterprise-C
was captured, then how do you explain the youthful looks of Sela?
I would think that after 50 years that she would have a couple wrinkles
here and there and some gray hair.
I'm sorry sir, but I can't put much stock into your conclusions.
I have to believe that she is the mother of Sela.
From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Please Help
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:50:39 GMT
Organization: HP Western Response Center


              Please answer these 9 questions and return.

1.) Do you think equal rights for men and women is generally a good idea?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

2.) Are you pro choice?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

3.) Are you in favor of adoption?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

4.) Do you think men should be allowed to legally terminate their parental
rights and responsibilities before fetal viability?
Yes                  [ ]
Sometimes            [ ]
No                   [ ]
Haven't heard enough [ ]
Other                [ ]

5.) What sex are you?
Male               [ ]
Female             [ ]

6.) How old are you?
Under 18           [ ]
19 to 65           [ ]
Over 65            [ ]

7.) What religion are you?
Protestant         [ ]
Catholic           [ ]
Jewish             [ ]
Other              [ ]

8.) What political party are you affiliated with?
Democratic         [ ]
Republican         [ ]
Other              [ ]

9.) How many years of education have you completed?
Grade School       [ ]
High School        [ ]
College            [ ]
More               [ ]