HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites)
Subject: Re: Marching Bands
Keywords: Marching
Reply-To: knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:25:01 GMT

In article <Bz458G.5Kp@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff
Beckham) writes:
> dkelly@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Dave Kelly) writes:
> >currybg@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Brian) writes:
> >Iowa refers to Purdue as the Amoeba Marching Mess.  FYI.
> 
> Hmmm... that's interesting coming from someone from IOWA.  What's that step 
> called where you guys swing your whole upper body back and forth from side to
> side?  That must be hard to do and play at the same time.  I would imagine
that
> if you did, you might sound like the Michigan band...
> 
> 
>   			   	   --------------------------------------------
> 								  Jeff Beckham
> 						      beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
>  			 	      			       Marching Illini 
>                                     University of Illinois at
Urbana-Champaign
> 				   --------------------------------------------


That's just it.  They either play or march.  Not both.  They usually quack and
waddle to a set, stand there, play a powerful rendition of "I Can't Help Falling
In Love With You" by Elvis, and then waddle on over to their next set.  They
also only have about 5 sets in their entire halftime show!  If you want to see
the best band in the state of Iowa, take a look at Iowa State.  We actually play
and march at the same time!  What a concept!  And we don't have to drop our
flagline to save some money either.  If you want entertainment, come watch the
ISUCF"V"MB play some great music and a drill that moves!  Perhaps one of our
better formations was when the entire 250 member band spelled out "AWA SUX" all
across the field!

Later,
Andy
ISUCF"V"MB Trombone
From: soo@crowe.seas.ucla.edu (Steven Soo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Cal (UC Berkeley) Band
Date: 12 Dec 92 05:33:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

The USC band?  HA!  All I can say is 58-12!

For a _real_ marching band, try the Solid Gold Sound of the UCLA
Marching Band!  We know our steps, we have the strength (220+),
_and_ we have the musical skill to play music that is much more
challenging than either SC or Cal plays.

Not to mention, we don't have that really, really, really annoying
song that SC plays over and over again (as if it really is that
hard to play two notes).

We'll see you again on the field next year!

An Alto Sax Who's Proud of His Band!
-- 
Reply to: Steven Soo (soo@seas.ucla.edu)
Electrical Engineering, UCLA
Other addresses: izzyqr1@mvs.oac.ucla.edu, 71213.2415@compuserve.com
"Sex is not the answer--sex is the question.  Yes is the answer."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: stanford@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Stanford)
Subject: Re: Arrogance vs. niceness
Organization: none whatsoever
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 00:19:00 GMT

In article <666> Liza_Weissler@rand.ORG (Liza Weissler) writes:

>FWIW, my vote for nicest band goes to Notre Dame.  They always treated
>us really well when we would go back to South Bend every other year.
>I hope that hasn't changed.

Actually, I've generally found the whole Notre Dame crowd pretty cool
for the most part.  After a couple of tailgaters here (Stanford), we
got nice comments from various Notre Dame alumni.  We did have an
incident involving our drum major (who was dressed as a nun at the
time) and a Notre Dame fan last year, but that's (hopefully) the
exception to the rule.  Lou Holtz I could do without though...

Scott
-- 
Scott Stanford                 |)  Eenie meenie miney moe.
stanford@leland.stanford.edu  /|   Catch a tiger by the toe.
                             ((|,) If he hollers...yeah whatEVER.
"MORE Doctah Peppah!!"        ~|~  He's EATIN' your ass.  Run, you idiot.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: cheerleaders: kill them or just disembowel?
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:36:35 GMT

When I was in Ohio State's Marching Band ('79-'82), we had
a great relationship with the cheerleading squad.  One of the
reasons I did might have been because I tried out one year
(barely missing the cut due to my spraining an ankle in the
final round of cuts and therefore *just* losing by 2 points
to somebody else) and also, a girl who I went to high school
with was a cheerleader at OSU at that time.

Anyway, we always had fine with the cheerleaders.  I even
remember when we went out to the 1980 Rose Bowl, the cheerleaders
also roomed at the UCLA dorms with us and the night prior to the
parade, about 4 of us drummers and four of the female cheerleaders
rode up and down in a dorm elevator drinking and singing for
about 2 hours, before we all passed out on the floor together in
somebody's room.  I remember 5 AM to be VERY nasty that morning!
What was worse was the cheerleader's got to ride a float in the
parade while we, of course, had to march.  Thank God I was young
then!

allen
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: jat6h@Virginia.EDU ("Mars, the Bringer of War")
Subject: Re: Cheezeleaders
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:37:41 GMT

Hmm...sounds like this bad cheerleaders thing is global.  Here
at Mr. Jefferson's Resort, our cheerleaders sound suspiciously
like our cousins up in Maryland.  Wee, too do the
unconventional response to the GO!! cheer, except we always
yell TO HELL!!  No joke, I thought the cheerleaders back in HS
were bad (in Maryland...hmm...a pattern?), but the poor excuse
for a cheering section they have here seems to take the
record.  When they try to do the wave, the crowd just laughs at
them (look, Mommy! Those stupid cheerleaders are trying to do
the wave again! Pass the SoCo...) Then again, this IS a school
where a sizable fraction of the crowd at football games wear
tie and jacket...
justin tate o' uva
From: swain@aludra.usc.edu (Ronnie Swain)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: more U$C (was Re: Cal (UC Berkeley) Band)
Date: 12 Dec 1992 00:21:53 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

The brown-nosing is to some degree true, but then I would challange you to find
any band which is not completely student run which does not do some brown
nosing.  BTW, most of the band does not engage in such activities.  As a matter
of fact, we listen to Art about as much as we listen to disco music, which is
very, very, very LITTLE!  BTW, music majors are not required to be in the band
PERIOD.  Believe me, if we did, we would be just that much better than we
already are.

:-)

Ronnie Swain
swain@scf.usc.edu
Trojans Rule!
From: cf123@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher Leigh Putnam)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: WGI: POST HERE!!!
Date: 12 Dec 1992 07:13:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I agree with Gary completely.  It was brought up on the rec..drumcorps channel
as well.  As it stands now, there is probably enough people on here to create 
a rec.arts.marching.college group.  It wouldn't hurt to give it atry.

Michael, or anyone that knows, will a group get cut out of rec status
if they don't keep a certain number of posts coming in?  Or now that
the group has been formed, it is here until someone votes to shut it down?

I'd like to see a group soley for the college marching, because it seems
to be a very porpular group for the college band sytudents.

Any one agree or disagree?  Michael and Ohil (Phil, sorry), please
give us input.  You guys probably know the most about this stuff.

Thanks.
-- 
Chris Putnam (still a Blue Devils lover at heart)
Euphonium/Baritone
Star in '93?????
Go Devils Winterguard!!!!!
From: sandy@hamus.sw.stratus.com (Sandy Flor)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Presidential Inauguration Parade
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:46:02 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: hamus.sw.stratus.com

The New Bedford High School Marching Band was selected to play at the 
1985 Presidential Inauguration Parade but it was cancelled.  Boy were
we bummed (frustrated/upset/angry is probably a better description)
to have practiced for 2 hours in a hotel parking lot in FREEZING
(ice, snow, frost-bite, the works) weather only to have the parade cancelled.

Luckily some good came out of it.  The parade eventually happened
but this time in Disney World, Florida in April, 1984, and we were once again
invited.  Two trips in one year to 2 great places, and we got to see the 
President twice.  

What a deal!

- Sandy 

P.S.  The NBHS Marching Band is hoping to be selected again this year
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: plucky@ais.org (Chris Adamson)
Subject: Re: more U$C (was Re: Cal (UC Berkeley) Band)
Organization: UMCC
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:43:03 GMT

In several recent messages, U$C Trojan Band member Ronnie Swain offers
(without citing the articles he's responding to, unfortunately) the
following facts:
	* That membership in the U$C Band is a paid position
	* That he and his compatriots find virtue in playing for /
waking up City Hall bums at 5AM on UCLA game day.
	* That they're obnoxious and arrogant because everyone else is
(although they'd ostensibly rather not be)
	* That they suck up to their administration (again because
everyone else does)
	* That all of this somehow makes them "The Greatest Marching
Band in the History of the Universe"

	Gee, Ronnie, are there any principles that you and your band
pals HAVEN'T compromised yet?

--Chris Adamson
Stanford Band (Bonz R Godz), '87-90

    ===================================================================
   / Chris L. Adamson    / "In any compromise between good and evil, /
  / Michigan State U.   / it is only evil that can win" - Ayn Rand  /
 / Telecomm Production / ----------------------------------------- / 
/ M.A. student        / plucky@irie.ais.org , plucky2(Amer. O-L)  /
==================================================================
DISCLAIMER:  MSU uses tear gas to break up snowball fights.  What do
             you think they'll do when they disavow this post?
From: timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Castro)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: more U$C (was Re: Cal (UC Berkeley Band)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 23:58:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu

In article <18322086@um.cc.umich.edu> Richard.V.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes:

>Well, the Berkeley Band can be pretty rude, but they are not nearly as
>nasty as u$c!  Everyone else is fairly civil, so those two are 
>exceptions.
> 

Rich,

Do you have concrete examples of this aforementioned "rude" behavior?

Granted, our STUDENT SECTION can be fairly obnoxious, but the Cal Band 
is always a class act.

I would appreciate you making a distinction between the ROOTERS and 
the BAND before you accuse anyone of being "rude!"  


--Tim
Cal Band '86 -'90

>Rich Lamb


-- 
Tim Castro		    *   "When the air becomes uranious
U.C. Berkeley               *    We will all go simultaneous
timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU      *    Yes we all will go together when we go." 
timc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU       *           --Tom Lehrer, 1958
Xref: sparky rec.arts.marching.misc:324 rec.arts.marching.drumcorps:134
From: fath@mbcrr.dfci.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc,rec.arts.marching.drumcorps
Subject: Re: WGI: POST HERE!!!
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:19:36 GMT
Organization: Dana-Farber Cancer Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcrr.harvard.edu

In article <1gc3e4INNi2h@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cf123@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Christopher Leigh Putnam) writes:
;>
;>I agree with Gary completely. It was brought up on the rec..drumcorps channel
;>as well. As it stands now, there is probably enough people on here to create 
;>a rec.arts.marching.college group.  It wouldn't hurt to give it atry.
;>

I have been pondering this for a few days.  Chris, a lot of work went into
making rec.arts.marching.d and .m.  I'm not all that eager to begin a new
round of Newsgroup creation at this time.  If you are, I suggest waiting until
after Christmas then try creating a new group called rec.arts.marching.college.
This would be the best since 90% of the traffic on misc is devoted to college
bands.  That way, the college band stuff would move to college and the hs band
and WGI stuff could be kept in misc.


;>Michael, or anyone that knows, will a group get cut out of rec status
;>if they don't keep a certain number of posts coming in?  Or now that
;>the group has been formed, it is here until someone votes to shut it down?

As far as I know, groups are permanent once they get rec status.  There are
some rec. groups that have almost NO traffic and they get kept.  Just check
out your .newsrc sometime.  :-)


;>
;>I'd like to see a group soley for the college marching, because it seems
;>to be a very popular group for the college band students.
;>
;>Any one agree or disagree?  Michael and Ohil (Phil, sorry), please
;>give us input.  You guys probably know the most about this stuff.
;>
Agree completely, see above.  


>Thanks.
>-- 
>Chris Putnam (still a Blue Devils lover at heart)
>Euphonium/Baritone
>Star in '93?????
>Go Devils Winterguard!!!!!


-- 
MM   MM FFFFF 	Michael Fath		fath@mbcrr.harvard.edu
M M M M F	Dept of Microbiology and Molecular Genetics
M  M  M FFF     Harvard Medical School         
M     M F       Boston, MA 02115	Merry Christmas Everyone!
From: urcat@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eilidh Swan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Piccolo's or so :-)
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:53:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.urcat.724539214

Will Young writes:
>>Ok, asking about something to do with people who play piccolos on here.   
>>Most of the time, marching bands would rather have piccolo players than  
>>flute players right? .... I know that lots of them  
>>use metal piccolos but what I am wanting to know is about plastic  
>>piccolos also.  Anyone on here ever played one?  How do you like it and  
>>how does it compare to a wooden piccolo?

Sally Smith answers:
>Okay, I march a silver piccolo, but I've experimented with the wooden
>ones.  I personally like the metal ones because of the ability to get out
>the higher pitch notes ...  About piccs, I also like
>the feel of the silver ones....the tend to keep their pads in longer 
>and don't tend to fall apart as quickly...of course, there are advantages
>to wooden ones...obviously..price and, especially up here, march over and
>then running into the Dome (carrier that is) will simple cool down and change
>the pitch of a metal one faster than anything. 

Regarding flutes over piccolos:  I became a percussionist in high school
  because my band director had a policy against freshmen as piccolo's...
  without giving me a chance to challenge the seniors for their spots.
  And I refused to take my flute out in the snow.

Regarding prefered piccolos:  My piccolo is a wooden body, metal headpiece,
  metal keyed instrument by Yamaha.  It came used, and was in bad shape at
  first.  Once I had it rejuvinated, it worked very well on the field and
  in concert (i.e. Stars and Stripes Forever -- the most *wonderful* 
  piccolo feature!  High B flats!  Wow!)....  I prefered this over the
  all metal picc's I tried, and have never seen a plastic one.  And  I
  never had any problems with the pads in my wooden picc.

But you know you're strange when you go from piccolo to a 4 1/2 octave
  marimba and call that *your baby!*   ....although you can act like
  a black market vendor with a picc. in the inside of your jacket pocket:
  (*whispers conspiritorily* wanna buy a used piccolo?)

Eilidh Swan
************************************************************************
Cat McGlothlin    urcat@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu   'urcat'='you-are-cat'   "Oh!"
                  eilidh@cs.ucsb.edu       -- Eilidh is Celtic for Ellen
 The University never has, and never will, pay for or fund my opinions.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: jthomson@titan.ucc.umass.edu (John A Thomson)
Subject: Re: Marching Style Survey
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:36:55 GMT

In article <1gak9dINNgj2@agate.berkeley.edu> timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Castro) writes:

>
>A lot of folks have described their band's marching (or non-marching) 
>style in great detail.  I'd like to take a survey and have you all 
>describe your band's "style" in one sentence or less.
>

At UMass/Amherst, we are of the Drum Corps style, as a large percentage of our
members march corps, and it they generally compose the Field Staff.  Our
Director, George Parks, also marched/Drum Majored Corps for a LARGE part of his
life.
(P.S. The Cadets of BC Contra line was mostly UMass people in '92.)

Later.
---John
From: jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
Subject: Re: Band Announcers
Followup-To: rec.arts.marching.misc
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:46:32 GMT
Organization: Systems Support Center, BCM
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: j.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <1992Dec11.205451.7022@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
lsjumb@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stanford Band) wrote:

[other schools announcer attachment...]
> Actually, that's EXACTLY what we had at Stanford for a while.  Hal
> Mickelson (I'm SURE I'm misspellinggg ittt) was a student announcer,
> and just kept the job for 15 years, finally retiring about 6 years
> ago...
[more stuff...]

I believe that I got to meet Hal when the LSJUMB played the Bluebonnet Bowl
against Georgia.  I remember him writing the script for the show on the bus
from the hotel to the Astrodome.  Of course, it's pretty hard to understand
ANYthing over the PA in the 'dome...

The MOB's announcer has been with us for 13 nearly-monotone, non-inflected
years.  He's the regional manager for Kinko's.  I've taken to typing out
the scripts with ridiculous amounts of bold-face and italics just to TRY to
get some sort of emPHAsis out of him.  We like him anyway...
If I wasn't having too much fun *playing* in the shows, I'd probably be
announcing them...

bcnu - grungy (John Gladu)
Systems Support Center -- Baylor College of Medicine
INTERNET: jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu  | VOICE: (713)798-7370
 US MAIL:  One Baylor Plaza, Houston, Texas  77030
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites)
Subject: Re: Penn State Band?
Reply-To: knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H Combites)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:22:20 GMT

In article <92351.175859KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>, Kurt Ludwick
<KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
> >What a putz. He wouldn't let either band march on the field at halftime
> >because 'we'd tear up his grass'.
> 
> The quote in the local liberal rag, um, I mean campus newspaper, was from
> a groundskeeper or the athletic director or someone 'important:'
> "[The Band] could end up making a divot in the field which the ball could
>  hit, changing the course of the game."  (Paraphrasing; this is pretty close.
>  It WAS this stupid.)
> 
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
>  Kurt  E.  Ludwick     | If PRO is the opposite of CON, then
>  -  -  -  -  -  -  -  -|
>  kel111@psuvm.psu.edu  |             what's the opposite of Progress...?
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
When the ISUCF"V"MB want to Iowa City in 1990 for the Iowa/Iowa State game, our
band had to do a postgame on the natural grass field of Kinnick Stadium at the U
of I.  Anyway, the iowa band waddles around aver so gently so they won't ruin
their precious field.  Ha!  When we came on the field, we high stepped, we used
our "X" cadence as a field entance, and our director made sure we had plenty of
t.t.r's in our drill.  At postgame, while the Iowa Quackeys were playing, our
band set up a block and did some basics.  About faces and the like.  Hayden Fry
was so pissed that he tried to bill our band for the damage and even told us off
on his weekly tv show!  He said we ruined HIS field and the whole thing was
going to need re-sodding!!!!

Later,
Andy Combites
ISUCF"V"MB Trombone
Newsgroups: rec.arts.marching.misc
From: dchef@leland.Stanford.edu (David Van Ham Cohen)
Subject: Re: Credit for band?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 21:07:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.003311@IASTATE.EDU> knights@IASTATE.EDU (Andrew H  
Combites) writes:
> I was just wondering what kind of credit you guys get for being in your
> marching bands.  At Iowa State we practice an hour and a half each
> weekday and about an hour on gamedays for one credit and no grade!  I
> know some bands get more credit, and some get a grade to go into their
> GPA.  What's the scoop?

Here at Stanford, band members can (if they wish) sign on for one graded  
credit per quarter; Symphonic Band (and I should hope Symphony Orchestra)  
are handled the same way.  However, no more than 12 units of total sports  
(similar deals) and music credits can be applied toward graduation (180).

> FINALS ARE DONE!!!!!

D*mn right.  As of this morning.   (=

> Andy Combites
> ISUCF"V"MB Trombone

David Cohen  |\
   .    __.  > |
   |\  /    \,/         E-mail Address:  dchef@leland.Stanford.edu
   | ^|  o^^^\---       USnail Address:  hasn't gotten here yet...
    --o^^ ||_/--\\      Stanford Band's Phone Number:  (415)-723-4303
     - "-^(  )---\      That Number Again:  (415)-723-4303; or, scegf0d.
    //||||/|\\\-\       \     I will not leave whitespace in my signature
     |||||||">||  \     |\    I will not leave whitespace in my signature
     /  ^^ ^^    /I\    |/\   I will not leave whitespace in my signature
    /-          /III\   | /   I will not leave whitespace in my signature
   /-          /IIIII   |/    I will not leave whitespace in my signature
egrep -v '.sig.*virus' ~/.signature >/tmp/.sig; mv /tmp/.sig ~/.signature