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From: GS#0@lafibm.lafayette.edu (GS#0000)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Muslims - First Line Of Action
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:00:11 GMT
Organization: Lafayette College
Originator: news@lafcol

In article <dbose.724377025@sirocco.aem.umn.edu> dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:
>Dear paki bastards ,
>
> Abhi to sirf ek hi masjid toda hai . Hame to do hajaar aur todne hain .
> For your kind infiormation , I must tell you that India has greater
> population of muslims than pakistan . They can very well take care of themselves .
> Khopdi me kuch samajh aaya .
>   Do bar to HINDUSTAN se bahut maar kha chuke ho . Abhi bhi akal nahin aaye
>   kya? Teri islam ki to asi ki taisi .
>   Zindagi bhar kutte ki tarah baunkte raho . Kuch kar to paoge nahin .
>   HINDUSTAN se agar takraoge choor-choor ho jaoge .
>   Apni aukaat mat bhoolo .
>
>   JAI HIND
>   JAI SRI RAM
>   -------------------------------------------------------------------
>     DUSHMANE  ISLAM

Dear Deepak,

It is evident from your cogent posting that not only are you highly
educated, but also well versed with the ideas presented in all of the
sacred texts of your religion. You have demonstrated beyond any doubt
your mastery of the contents of the Bhagavadgita and even the Upanishads
and the years you must have spent meditating the teachings therein.
Along with a few other pious individuals posting in this forum, you
definitely qualify as one who has atained Moksha.

BTW, when did you get back to the US from Ayodhya?

Regards,

Shekhar                             govi@lafayette.edu

P.S.  Not to pick nits, but you did forget to add DUSHMANE INSAAN
      in your .sig.  Happens to the best of us.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mina@seas.gwu.edu (Mina E. Marshall)
Subject: Calendar
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:54:49 GMT

To Agha Javad,
I tried to e_mail you the following message, but it was returned
to me.  That is why I am posting it.

   I usually silently enjoy your postings and your thoughts! I also
   enjoyed the movie "A Dry White Season" .  I am particularly
   interested in the Amnesty International Calendar.  Can you please
   mail me more information on how and where I can obtain a copy of it?
   I would like to buy one, but I haven't seen any in our area.  Thank 
   you very much for sharing these things on the net!

						Yours,
							Mina
my email address is: 
		mina@sparko.seas.gwu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.rights.human
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: U.N. Decries the Khomeini regime again
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:10:42 GMT

saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>>saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>
>> => Mr. Rajavi said: Let the world know that the mullahs are on their way
>> => out and will definitely be overthrown,...    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>I think Mr. Rajavi's tongue must have grown hair by now. He has been
>>repeating the above statement for 13+ years.
>
>Here is two quick explanations for you, Siamak:
>
>First, Mr. Rajavi's statement indicates nothing but his
>committment and determination as well as his high hope.

And it shows!

>That by itself is admirable

Indeed!

>specially when we see so
>many so-called "opposition leaders" giving up their fight
>and returning to their "normal" life. (In other words,
>saying good bye to their conscince, struggle, and
>whatever revolutionary values they once had.)

In other words, coming to their own senses!

    [rest deleted]

I am planning to buy Mr. Rajavi a remington micro shaver (or your
money back) as X-mas present to use on his tongue!   :-)

    --mack
Xref: sparky soc.culture.iranian:10930 soc.culture.pakistan:18260
From: qzuhair@milton.u.washington.edu (Newton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Muslims - First Line Of Action
Keywords: Hope many other Indians come out of the closet....
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:00:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec16.090035.15118
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Dec16.053304.9730@u.washington.edu> shamshoo@shelley.u.washington.edu (Shams Hasan) writes:
>In article <dbose.724377025@sirocco.aem.umn.edu> dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:
>>Dear paki bastards ,
>>
>>	Abhi to sirf ek hi masjid toda hai . Hame to do hajaar aur todne hain .
>>	For your ki
>nd infiormation , I must tell you that India has greater 
>>	population of muslims than pakistan . They can very well take care of themselves .
>>	Khopdi me kuch samajh aaya .

        What is the meaning of Khopdi? Did you mean "sri"? 

>>		 Do bar to HINDUSTAN se bahut maar kha chuke ho . Abhi bhi akal nahin aaye
>>		 kya? Teri islam ki to asi ki taisi . 
>>		 Zindagi bhar kutte ki tarah baunkte raho . Kuch kar to paoge nahin .

        Hmmmm.. I see! So you mean if one bark like a dog, one would fails
in one's life. So, that mean i can use this to predict that you wont be 
successful in your life?? 



>>		 HINDUSTAN se agar takraoge choor-choor ho jaoge .

        
        I remember the leaders of former Soviet Union claiming:

        " Roos se agar takraoge choor choor ho jaoge". But..??!!

>>		 Apni aukaat mat bhoolo .

>>		 JAI HIND
>>		 JAI SRI RAM
>>		 -------------------------------------------------------------------
>>					DUSHMANE  ISLAM
				      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

        
       I warn you that's too dangerous. Beware or you would be granted 
death warrant from Irani Government.


NEWTON....
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,rec.games.chess
From: javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad)
Subject: Re: Women's pos. & Ben Mahjoor
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:05:51 GMT
Organization: LabaniyyAtee-e-Sar-e-Koocheh

In article <8kewVB1w165w@halcyon.com> satan <satan666@halcyon.com> writes:

[stuff deleted]

>> So next time you claim "It's not fair that we blame IRI goverment", I ask
>> that you review the meaning of fairness, and answer to yourself the question,
>> "Haven't the Iranian people been fair to the IRI regime long enough?"
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Regards,
>> 
>> Agha Javad


> Hey lejan! How's SCI's biggest namard hanging? So you thought you could     
>get rid of me. Huh? Punk? Telling by this little piece of khak that got
>your mom to write it's still evident that your a traitor to Iranians all 
>over the world. I was reading how you and the rest of your jendahs,
>
>especially the little taki Paki, conspired to try to get rid of me! Now
>that I failed my Fortran class because I couldn't compile any of my 
>programs, because I didn't have my account anymore, I am mad as hell! So 
>Khanem Javad goodbye and will meet again because I found out how to write 
>on SCI by going through a few backdoors.
>
>Satan.

So what's your point?
From: 8809787l@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: RE: IRAN, AFGHANESTAN, THE ARABS etc. (RE: BABAK )
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:22:06 +1030
Organization: University of South Australia

Doostan Salam

I just wanted to give you the list of the references which I mensioned in my
last posting about Iran and its history etc.

1) The Last Two Million Years, Published by Reader's Digest Association 1973

2) The Persians, by Jim Hicks ( Time-Life Books ) 1975

3) The New Illustrated History of the World: The Awakening of Man 250000 BC to
   100 BC, by Postgate, Hawkins and Kemp, 1970

4) Islam and the Arab World, by Knopf, published by American Heritage
   publishing, 1976

5) Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th edition 1910

6) Ancient Civilizations: PERSIA I from origins to the Achaemenids,by
   Jean-Louis Huot, 1971

7) The Cambridge History of ISLAM ( volume 2 ), by Holt, Lambton & Lewis 1970



Well these are all the references for my last posting.

Ghorbaneh Shoma

payam

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: The AP: UN Voices Deep Concern Over Iran (excerpts)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:22:07 GMT


  
    United Nations (Associated Press, 12-04-92) - A key U.N.
committee on Friday ... expressed grave concern over Iran's
human rights violations, including executions and torture ...

    The resolutions on Iran was stronger than in the past and for
the first time the U.S. and Japan were among the 23 sponsors.
The last vote in 1988 was 55-23 but [thanks to Resistance activities]
more nations are openly critical of Iran's human rights records. ...

    In the resolution on abuses in Iran, the committee criticized
the government for ending its cooperation with UN human rights
investigators, refusing to permit visits and not responding to UN
questions on violations...

    It expressed deep concern at continuing reported violations
of human rights in Iran. The committee cited the high number of
executions, torture, poor administration of justice, lack of due
legal process, mistreatment of Bahai community and restrictions on
freedom of expression, thought and press.

    Massoud Rajavi, leader of the Iranian Resistance in Paris, said
in a statement: "This resolution, the strongest ever adopted by the
General Assembly, the highest international body, affirms in no
uncertain terms that so long as the mullahs' regime in is power, mass
killings, torture and executions in Iran and export of terrorism and
fundamentalism will persist."

    He called for an oil and arms embargo against the Iranian
government.
From: bxm50@pars.amdahl.com (Ben Mahjoor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re:  Military spedning of IRI
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:27:33 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corp.

>>
>>Iran, with a budget of 80 billion dollars, spends 20 billion a year on arms.
>>
>
>A quick clarification: The figure for Iranian arms expenditures is
>2  Billion  Dollars a  year,  or 20 Billion over the next 10 years.
>By way  of  comparison,  Kuwait is planning to spend 12 Billion in
>defence over  the next  10 years (see  this week's  issue  of  the
>Economist magazine).
>
>-Payman


I stand corrected. Thank you.

             - Behnam
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad)
Subject: Re: Re: Women's position and Hamid Agha
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:13:57 GMT
Organization: LabaniyyAtee-e-Sar-e-Koocheh

In article <1992Dec12.204912.25521@athena.mit.edu> lking@athena.mit.edu (Loren King) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.124622.24116@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, foroughi@mot.com (Hooman Foroughi) writes:
>|> In article <1992Dec11.174130.3606@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au> p2044862@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:
>|> >
>|> >
>|> >
>|> >May I ask people who are worried about women's rights in IRAN; What kind of
>|> >
>|> >cover ( Hejab )was used by their grandmothers & mothers or other members of
>|> >
>|> >their family earlier than Islamic Rev. As I remember the women's
>|> >
>|> >uncovering( kashfe hejab ) in IRAN was done by Pahlavy,S regime ,so it isn't
>|> > 
>|> >a new subject.  
>|> >  
>|> 
>|> 
>|> First of all, the issue of `Hejab` is one of _many_ ways that women are discredited
>|> in Iran. I don't care what reasons you have to explain the theory bahind `Hejab`. 
>|> IT IS NOT RELEVANT. The fact is women are _forced_ to wear `Hejab`, and that is
>|> discrimination against the women's most basic right. But it does not end here,
>|> a woman's signature being worth half of a man's, a woman getting half of their father's 
>|> inheritance, .... ,and now a woman selling her body under a pre-historical islamic 
>|> amendment(sigheh), are just a few other angles to the woman's current position in Iran.
>|> 
>|> We have a long way to go in technology and humanity. We need every young and fresh
>|> mind to work for our country, and yes that inludes females!  If we continue to
>|> treat more that half of our population (women) this way, us men have to work
>|> twice as hard and twice as long. It just doesn't add up. 
>|> 
>|> Am I the only one that feels this way? 
>
>
>No, you certainly are not.
>

Indeed, I feel the same way.

>
>Loren King
>MIT

Agha Javad
From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: RE: AIDS IN IRAN  [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 15 Dec 1992 02:52:11 GMT
Organization: Notgheh MajjAni, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel
To: sci-anon-poster 




In article <1992Dec14.184650.10664@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com>,
                 <sehari.724370078@class1.iastate.edu>, Mr. B.S. writes:

>Finally, maybe a High tax (some where around %90 of income) on all the

	what income? from which job?
 
>un-married people over 21 could force our people to lower their expectations 
>and get married.  This money should be returned to them if they get married
>within 3 years.  Off course, this might lead to high divorce rate.  Therefor,
>the marriages that last less than 10 years, should return all the previous
>years tax reduction and repay signal tax rate (%90) for all those years.
>Also, other social privileges of a signal person might be subject to
>suspension, such as drivers license, ..., if this does not reduce the
>signal rate over 21 by  %90.  I guess, someone should become bad again,
                                                             ^^^^^       
	You mean worse, don't you?

>to save our society.

If this is the meaning of spouse and if this is the sole incentive for
getting married, then any "fAheshe" (male or female) could become your
spouse and any "Pari Bolandeh" could become mother of your children.

For God's sake, keep the name and the meaning of marriage clean and make
prostitution legal, so that people won't need someone just for the purpose
of releasing their load on and call her/him wife/husband.

Of course, we all know that with such a prosperous economy and with
the abundance of jobs in present day IRAN, the majority of people does 
not face financial barriers of any kind against getting married. The
only reason why these people stay single is that their 21-year-olds
are so busy schooling, working, doing scientific research, running a 
business etc, that they don't even have time to think about getting 
married. Probably the are not mature enough to understand that the only
road to an AIDS-free life is to get married!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

MR. BS, PLEASE DO NOT RUN FOR PRESIDENCY!

>                        With highest regards,
>                             Babak   Sehari.

Long live our Persian homeland

ShahrAm


 
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From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: A humble response to Mojahedins
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:20:17 GMT

In <589e02bm2fFM01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> bxm50@pars.amdahl.com (Ben Mahjoor) writes:


>	"Fool me once, shame on you ! Fool me twice, shame on me !"

>or

>	"Azmoode rA dobAre Azmoodan khatAst".

>More on Mojahedin later ...

>				- Behnam

>The road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Very, good article.

                         With highest regards,
                              Babak   Sehari.
-- 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: psc@sei.cmu.edu (Peter Capell)
Subject: Re: Afghans Beware Re: why the anger anger against zia?
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:17:24 EST

08-Dec-92 18:52	abbasa@ul.ie	Re: Afghans Beware Re: why the anger anger against zia?

>Mr Sayed, you have no right to drag Imam Khomeini into the dirty
>nationalistic game.  Do you realise that Imam Khomeini was not leader of
>just iranian but he was the leader of the whole Muslim community?  He equally
>cared about Afghans, Iranianan, Arabs, Pakistanis etc.  He supported Afghan
>jihad NOT at the signal of some supper power, as many did, he did it
>just because it was an obligation of islam.   

An American saying: with friends like this, who need enemies.

>Please note Imam Khomeini defended Iran when it was attacked.  The people
>who sacrificed their lives in jihad against Saddam were martyres in the same
>way as afghans children, men and women were martyres.  You cannot 
>ridicule the sacred obligation of jihad against Saddam as it will surely
>weaken your stand against Najib.

I say it was a lot of brainwashed 14-year-olds that defended Iran when it was
attacked.  Although I am fully prepared to think of Saddam as a bastard, it
*was* the Imam who advocated an Islamic overthrow of Iraq.  Purely from a
military point of view--believe me I am not at all sympathetic to Saddam--
it was *precisely* the correct time to attack Iran.  Iran had been weakened
politically and militarily under Khomeinie's regime, and had lost its major
parts and weapons supplier--perfect timing.  In my view, just for this
transgressions, all good Iranians should band together to eliminate the
current regime.

I wonder if I could safely make that same statement in Iran right now?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Iran's Cities - Kish Island, Spring in Winter
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:06:50 GMT



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KISH - Spring in Winter

Nine O'clock in a mid January morning, the plane took off from the
Mehrabad Airport and in ninety minutes, it was over the azure
waters of the Persian Gulf heading for the Island of Kish.  The
oval shaped island, with an area of 92 square kilometers are now
seen from the plane window.  Moments later the humid spring air of
Kish was persuading the passengers to reduce the winter wear.  The
temperature was around 20 degrees centigrade in a cold winter day!
Three coaches took the touring group to the French market of Kish. 
It is warm and sunny.  Locals are seen wearing short sleeves and
full summer gears.

One of the guides describes the location of the island.  According
to him the island has a population of seven thousand of whom about
3200 are born Kish natives and the rest have come from other
places.

The French market is one of the older places of Kish.  Before the
revolution, the market was managed by the French and sold French
goods.  The architecture of the market place is interesting, so are
numerous shops selling audio and visual and household equipment,
and of course clothing.

Before visiting the Arab market Place in the afternoon, we go to
the shore.  Members of the group, still not believing the weather,
take to the sea.  Just in 90 minutes from Tehran's snow and cold,
people are swimming and basking in the warm weather of the island.
The Arab market is situated near the shore and has an old building
with covered passages.  After this place, the newly built Maryam
Bazaar's lights attract attention.  It is an appetizing sight for
customers and as usual, haggling between sellers and buyers goes on
non-stop.

About 7:30 pm, we leave for the apartment block allocated to our
group and later, to the Kish Hotel nearby.  The hotel still has its
little model of the Island placed under glass on a table.  The
basement of the hotel, which is joined to the upper floors by a
glass flight of stairs houses the island's only drug store and a
beautiful decorated tea room.
The next evening is spent at the Kish Paradise designed like large
European "malls".  It has a large covered up area full of shops and
a cinema.  In the middle of the mall a pond soothes those tired of
shopping.

The third day has now arrived and we get to the airport and back to
Tehran.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: Resturan In Chicago
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:48:07 GMT

hamid@telesoft.com (Hamid Radvar @lone) writes:

>In <BzGJIp.HvK@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:

>>tabiei@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:

>>>Salam every body
>>>I want to go to chicago next week.
>>>Can any body give me an address of the best Iranian
>>>resturan there. mamnon.
>>>Ala Tabiei
>>>tabiei@ucbeh.san.uc.edu

>>Reza's Restuarant in Clark St. (close to Foster St.)
>>is the better one.
>>It also has very reasonable prices.

>>Ala

>I have a story to tell about Reza's Restuarant.  I was in Chicago for a few
>weeks last year.  I ate at Reza's twice, once right after I got there
>and once right before I left (the restaurant is close to the airport.)
>The first time I was profoundly moved by the quality of their
>chelokabob.  It was so good I could not wait to try it again.  Even here
>in southern California I hadn't had chelokabob that would even come
>close.  So, I spent the next few weeks drooling over the thought of 
>trying it again before I left town.  Let me cut the story short, I had
>the worst chelokabob imaginable upon my return there.  I was dumbfounded!
>I could not beleive my taste buds.  Was it the same place?  Did they
>layoff the cook?  I was quite disappointed to say the least.
>Well...do I recommend the place or not, you ask me?
>You bet.

The same thing happend to me with another restuarant in Chicago.
It was called Tehran Restuarant.  The first time I was there
the food was excellent.  The second time it was not too bad.
The third time it was unbearable!

With Reza, however, the chelo kabab that I had was always decent.
I have been there more than 20 times and I DO NOT remember having
a food which was BAD.  In fact it had a very good management
and the dishes were always the same.  Many Iranians had their
whole week's food from Reza.z

I think you must have got there at a wrong time :-)
But this can happen with any restuarant.

Did you complain about the food?
Did you make them to change your order?
Because they are usually very responsive to their customer's needs.

>Hamid Radvar

Ala
From: mojgan@orion.oac.uci.edu (Mojgan Bonakdar)
Subject: poetry for the soul
Summary: Langston Hughes better in Farsi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 17 Dec 92 08:12:20 GMT
Distribution: everyhwere i can think of



Last night I had the fortunate opportunity to listen to a tape of
ShAmloo reciting poetry from Langston Hughes along with
a really nice musical background.  

As much as I enjoy reading Hughes in English, I must admit
that it was much better in Farsi.  Or perhaps it was ShAmloo's
magic that made it seem that way.

I always say that good things should be shared, so here's a 
poem for my dear sci friends.

Fulfilment

	The earth-meaning
	Like the sky-meaning
	Was fulfilled.

	We got up
	And went to the river,
	Touched silver water,
	Laughed and bathed
	In the sunshine.

	Day 
	Became a bright ball of light
	For us to play with,
	Sunset
	A yellow curtain,
	Night
	A velvet screen.

	The moon,
	Like an old grandmother,
	Blessed us with a kiss
	And sleep
	Took us both in
	Laughing.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:42:37 EST
From: Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject:    Counting Heads


   Hi folks,

       There are thousands of Iranians outside of the country, many in the
       US of A. I am not sure how many and where the greatest concentration
       is. Perhaps, Californian and Washington area are in the forfront in the
       US. My question simply is: what are the rough counts?
       I believe DC area has somewhere between 100 to 150 thousand Iranians.
       Any estimates in your neck of the woods?
RezA