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Organization: Johannes Kepler University Linz - Computing Center
Date: Tuesday, 10 Nov 1992 02:50:49 CET
From: <K111114@ALIJKU11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: lilo / SLS installing

hi,
i guess someone might to know which problems to avoid when installing lilo/SLS
a) I have a sun, and unpacked lilo there to look at the source. after doing so,
   I ftp'd the -unpacked- files to a MSDOS disk, after that I mounted it on
   on /dev/fd0 and copied it to /etc/lilo. Tried to compile it, but failed.
   The Problem was that dparam.S should have been called dparam.s (not the
   lowercase s) ... msdos isn't case sensitve, ya know, and I was tired at 3:00
   in the morning so I simply oversaw it ...
   Therefore: don't ever unpack your files on whatever machine you are.
   Unpack it on the machine you wanna install them
b) The version I got was version lilo.6. After compiling, i tried to run it:
   lilo -b /dev/hda2 -i ./boot.b /Image. All I got was a:
   "First boot sector is version 6. Expected version was 4."
   I took me a long time to recognize that in /usr/bin, there's a lilo sitting,
   too ||| And since PATHNAME has no .: firstplace , it took the file from
   /usr/bin ... *cough* right syntax would be:
   ./lilo -b /dev/hda2 ... etc.
   BUT: Could someone who takes care for the SLS package, please update the
   version of lilo in /usr/bin ?
   It's really confusing if you are installing SLS the first time to have
   different versions of /usr/bin files WITHIN ||| the package...

Mebbe this all looks very simple for the experts ... hum ... *shrug*
But where are the experts then ? on #linux (irc ?)

Herp.
K111114 @ alijku11.bitnet

Beginning is hard. Bloody beginning is bloody hard.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
.. and then the expert said: "Oh , of course | You have to have the version
configuration number of the major release subcount be equal to the unit-id
progress field at offset C30AB00 ... Hum, guess what? Do a rm -rf /"
From: tym@dibbler.cs.monash.edu.au (Tim MacKenzie)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help with Sigma Legend and X11
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:29:55 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Monash University, Australia
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Clifton Koch (koch@rtsg.mot.com) wrote:
>  I have a Sigma Legend SVGA card in my machine, and can't seem to get the
>1024x768 mode working.  800x600 works (but only at 60 Hz).  This card can do
>1024x768x60Hz and 800x600x72Hz under DOS, but I can't seem to access any of
>the dot clocks for these modes.  For the 1024x768, there should be a 65MHz
>dot clock.  CLOCK.EXE under DOS reports 40MHz as the fastest clock.  The
>tutorial on X11 dotclocks even uses the Legend as the example for calculating
>the Xconfig parameters, but using the same entries, X can't find the appropriate
>clocks on startup.  The Legend is a Tseng 4000 based card, BTW.

I have a ET4000 based card, it generates all clocks from a single crystal.
CLOCK.EXE did not give any sensible results for the clock values, and gave
different results depending on which video mode you were in at the time of
running.

My solution was to get Xfree86 to find the clocks itself: (you need 1.2 for
this I think). Comment out any Clocks: line in your XConfig and startx in
a resolution that works (like 600x400). Output stderror to a file so that you
don't need to type in the clocks yourself... "startx 2> /tmp/whatever".
Sometimes all the clocks wont be found, so you might have to startx a few
times. You don't seem to need a Clocks: line, but if you put it in yourself
then you wont have problems later with clocks not being found (once you've
found out what the actual clocks values are).

Get the xclk program from tsx-11 (it's in sources/usr.bin.X11 I think). This
will do the calculations for you for the ModeDB. I found it really useful
for getting base values which can then be fiddled for your monitor.

>  Has anyone had any luck with the Legend and higher resolutions?  

With my ET4000 card (I'm not sure of the exact manufacturer, it calls itself
a "Enhanced VGA Bios 2148s 5/30/92". I'm using a MAG 15" monitor and the
following ModeDB uses all the "usable" area on the monitor in the center
clicks of all the controls.
"1168x897" 80 1168 1200 1352 1456  897 897 908 918

This leaves a HUGE 880 bytes on my 1M card unused (256 color mode), and looks
rather nice (impressive too!).
>  If so, what does your Xconfig look like?  
>  Did you have to do anything special to get X to recognize the dotclock?
See above.

ObConfig: 486/33 165M 4M, 15M swap, Local bus video, 
			 0.98pl3 (no scsi, procfs, extfs)
--
-Tim MacKenzie (tym@dibbler.cs.monash.edu.au)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: michael@gandalf.moria (Michael Haardt)
Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCE] poeigl-1.7 and admutil-1.4 available
Reply-To: u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Michael Haardt)
Organization: An old and gray machine, somewhere in Moria.
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 22:46:43 +0100
Return-Path: <u31b3hs@pool.informatik.rwth-aachen.de>

In article <1992Nov3.090246.29076@daimi.aau.dk>, poe@daimi.aau.dk (Peter Orbaek) writes:
> Init now has support for a singleuser mode, and it doesn't ignore the termcap
> field in /etc/inittab for console tty's anymore. After version 0.98.3
> the TERM variable handed over from the kernel is not very interesting.

Your own init, I guess?  There are two versions (well, three to be
precise: yours, the older sysv-compatible init and the newer
sysv-compatible init).

> To those that do not already know, the poeigl package contains:
> 
>         init, getty, login, hostname, mesg, users, who, write
> 
> and admutils contains:
> 
>         chsh, ctrlaltdel, init, last, newgrp, passwd, shutdown, reboot,
>         halt, fastboot, fasthalt, su, example /etc/rc

Unfortunately there is now a conflict between your package and the sysv
compatible package.  We should try to work something out.  I don't like
that I have to decide which utilities from which package are better each
time.

Why is there a su?  If I am right, the GNU shellutils also have one, and
it works fine.

Michael
From: hazen@budoe.bu.edu (Eric Hazen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: xfig problems - FP exceptions and export problems
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:11:54 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Boston University Physics Department


Hoping someone can help with this... have the 0.98 SLS release running,
along with Xfig binary someone posted recently (got from tsx-11).
Xfig basically runs OK, but occasionally gives a FP exception and dies.
Also, the "X11 bitmap" export function doesn't work correctly.

I have a Tandy 4000 (80386, 80287 co-processor).  I'm using soft math,
since 80287 != 80387, apparently.
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|  Boston University Physics Dept                 Fax: 617/353-9393    |
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|                    "O give me commentators plain,                    |
|              Who with no deep researches vex the brain" - Crabbe     |
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: smart@manta.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU (Robert Smart)
Subject: SCSI disk partioning
Organization: CSIRO, Division of Information Technology, Melbourne
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 00:36:43 GMT

The SCSI FAQ says

        The problem with partitioning SCSI disks and Linux is that Linux
        talks directly to the SCSI interface.  Each disk is viewed
        as the SCSI host sees it : N blocks, numbered from 0 to N-1,
        all error free.  There is no portable way to get disk
        geometry.  

        However, DOS doesn't like things like this, it demmands that
        BIOS present it with a normal Cylinder / Head / Sector 
        coordinates.  So, BIOS does, and it comes up with some fabrication
        that fits what DOS wants to see.  You don't want to disagree with
        what BIOS thinks when you write the partition table.

        Moral : if you partition under Linux, and use a disk with
        DOS too, you MUST know the geometry according to the BIOS.

The only DOS partioning program I have is FDISK, and it only seems to
know how to create one primary plus one extended DOS partition.

Can anyone suggest a better DOS partioning program: preferably free.

Alternatively can anyone tell me how to work out what BIOS's fake
cylinder/head/sector numbers are, and how to use pfdisk safely.

I'll forward any information I get to the maintainer of the SCSI FAQ
so that he can provide a more comprehensive answer.

Bob Smart
From: kooper@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Rob Kooper)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Sendmail
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:06:39 GMT
Organization: Delft University of Technology

Has someone alreayde compile sendmail. If so where can I get it.

Thankx && Greetz
--
Robert-Jan Kooper                | We're living in an age when lemonade is 
    rob@is.twi.tudelft.nl        | made with artificial ingredients and 
    kooper@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl | furniture polish is made of real lemons!
                                 |             -Alfred E. Neuman (MAD #310)
From: nosilla@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Andrew J. Templin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Maximum speed of Linux on serial ports...
Summary: What is it?
Date: 6 Nov 92 01:11:03 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Dept. of CS Ball State University Muncie IN


We have the 2nd most recent (I believe) version of the mcc-interim
release of Linux running on a friends 386/33DX.  It is wonderful.

What is the maximum speed I can set getty up with on a serial port?

I wish to hook up a terminal at 19200, and I would like to know if
this is possible.

Also, where can I find mail and uucp binaries or source for this 
version?

Thank you,

Andrew J. Templin

[Reply via EMail, please]
-- 
Andrew J. Templin, Confused Programmer, Ball State University
VAX: 00AJTEMPLIN@bsu-ucs.bsu.edu   ULTRIX: nosilla@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
"Ad Meorium Cthulhi Gloriam"            "Carpe Carp"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: gkm@calvin.muug.mb.ca (Greg K Moeller)
Subject: Re: kernel panics in 0.98.3
Organization: Calvin and HOBBS BBSes
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:20:23 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I'm trying to setup tcp/ip and telnet as well and I get the exact same
thing happening.

My system:
16 Mhz 80386(no DX or SX, it's too old)
5 Meg RAM
Linux 0.98.3 With urgent patches and socket patch.


--
Email: gkm@calvin.muug.mb.ca

I'm a Linux-jack and I'm ok!  I code all night and sleep all day!
I'm a Linux-jack and I'm ok!  I wear ladies dresses and wear high heels!
They're coming to take me away HA HA!
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tran@tran.Berkeley.EDU (Tran)
Subject: Help needed: S3 / Alpha Server
Reply-To: tran@tran.Berkeley.EDU (Tran)
Organization: Tandem Computers, Cupertino.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:18:29 GMT

I have been running SLS 0.98.pl1-40 on my Farenheit 1280 card using the
MONO server and would now like to try the Alpha S3 server from 
ftp.robots.ox.ac.uk.   I downloaded the source and binaries last night and 
installed it on my machine.  When I ran "startx", I got just a blue background
with no cursor or anything.  The mouse did not respond.  When I tried to 
rebuild the server with the source, mit/server/dix/cursor.c failed because it 
sourced in /mit/server/include/dixfont.h, which sourced in a non-existent 
<font.h>.  Would a knowledgeable person out there inform me as to why:

- the binary for the Alpha server failed to work in the first place and 
- where I can find font.h and possibly other missing include files in order
   to successfully rebuild the server.  (By the way, I did find a copy of 
   font.h and other include files in the directory /mit/server/include/old.
   I tried to compile with these but this generated in many many more 
   errors.  I suspected that this is not the correct files.)

FYI, I am running on a 486-33 with a local bus Farenheit-1280 (dont know
if that makes a difference.  The MONO server seemed to work).

Regards,

Hieu T. Tran

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rjl3f@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Robert Lockwood)
Subject: GDB & core files
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:31:40 GMT

I am running Linux 0.98.1 and using the GDB found on HJ's disks.  GDB does
not recognize core files as being core files.  Is this a know bug?

Bob Lockwood
rjl3f@uvacs.cs.virginia.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: Sendmail
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:14:02 GMT

Rob Kooper (kooper@dutiws.tudelft.nl) wrote:

: Has someone alreayde compile sendmail. If so where can I get it.

Try smail.  You can get the latest copy from Vince's newspak distribution,
currently residing on tsx-11 (and probably other sites as well).
--
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
seeker, therefore, is concerned with one thing only: to become aware of what
he already is, of the True Self within."  -- Zen maxim
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

"There is nothing to seek and nothing to find.  You're already enlightened, and
all the words in the world won't give you what you already have.  The wise
From: pr@umiacs.umd.edu (Jesus Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Linux FAQ
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:05:31 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland Institute for Advanced Computer Studies
Originator: pr@fnord.umiacs.umd.edu


I would like to know if there is a FAQ list for this newsgroup, if there is
could you forward a copy to pr@umiacs.umd.edu

Thanks in advance
Jesus M. Rodriguez
pr@umiacs.umd.edu
From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: LILO
Date: 10 Nov 1992 12:25:28 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

agc@cix.compulink.co.uk (Alan Charlton) writes:

>Hi,

>Where do I get LILO from?

>Cheers,

>Alan

>>>>MATRIX version  1.21c

It should have a current version on tsx-11.mit.edu in the
pub/linux/ALPHA/lilo dir.

James
From: carl@boxelder.Berkeley.EDU (Carl vonLoewenfeldt)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: make (SLS 0.98) not operating properly
Keywords: make SLS
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:01:30 GMT
Reply-To: carl@boxelder.Berkeley.EDU (Carl vonLoewenfeldt)
Organization: IBM Boulder, Colorado

In a previous note I commented on rebuilding GhostView (still no replies
to that query.)
In the process of making GhostView I noticed that if I re-executed make,
ALL objects
(*.o files) would be rebuilt, even those which were older than their
respective source 
files.

Similarly, when I executed "make install", instead of execiting the
install step of the
makefile, make began to rebuild the objects again.!

(Yes, I was using a Makefile that came with GhostView, and yes, the
dependencies and 
execution steps looked to be defined properly).	

Anybody experience similar make problems under SLS 0.98? Anybody have a fix?

Carl vonLoewenfeldt
From: duty@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (Duty Programmer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Warning: Re: [ANNOUNCE] poeigl-1.7 and admutil-1.4 available
Date: 7 Nov 1992 09:35:30 +1100
Organization: Information Technology Services, University of Melbourne
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rab@tauon.ph.unimelb.EDU.AU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

I uploaded the new poeigl and admutils packages the other day,
and hit a few snags. I'm running 0.98.3 (with the urgent patch).

Apart from having to comment out some conflicting definitions
in admutils (trivial), everything compiled nicely. However, it
seems to me that the installation process could be improved here.

I would think that most people would be, like myself, upgrading
rather than installing from scratch. I know i may be flamed for
this, and yes, i do use "make -n install" before doing a *real*
install, but i guess i didn't look closely enough at the output,
because running "make install" will trash your /etc/inittab and
/etc/shells files.

As i run getty_ps, the form for inittab is different to that used with
other gettys, and the result was that i couldn't reboot the system!
(Thank heavens for hlu's bootable rootdisk!)

It seems to me there should be a "make upgrade" or maybe
"make Install" for a full installation.

Also, "make install" spews out error messages about already existing
files when trying to make the links to "halt", &c, although this is,
of course, harmless.

One more thing: at the end of the install, there's a
"ln -s /dev/tty1 /dev/console", which is surely incorrect ... ?! My
/dev/console is /dev/tty0 (not tty1 which is my first VT!)

rab
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: russed@aix.rpi.edu (Daniel Russell)
Subject: Re: Problems with CMOS after using Linux on my 486
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:23:37 GMT

rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen) writes:
[...]
>I am told that this behavior happens only with AMI bios.
[...]

	Phoenix BIOS, too (Gateway 2000 486DX2/50, Micronics
motherboard, BIOS date 1/15/88 (?- from Manifest, not bootup).
Reboot/shutdown is successful 90% of time, but BIOS is changed,
esp. things like internal/external/BIOS caching.

 dan

>- Ken
From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Disk fire is out now :-)
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:50:03 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

Thanks to all who sent suggestions on the Xega problem of not finding
the 'fixed' font.

To sum it (in case it isn't in a FAQ and someone wants to put it there)
the way to fix this beastie is:

1) uncompress the fonts in (at least) /usr/X386/lib/X11/fonts/misc
    I've heard people say that these have to be compressed, and yet
    others say they shouldn't. On my system, they had to be uncom-
    pressed.

2) execute mkfontdir in each font directory you expect to use.

Now, if only my busmouse wasn't eratic, I might be able to use Xega and
have color. )-:

--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: ****** WHERE TO GET THE FAQ FOR THIS GROUP (was Re: new user, FAQ?)
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:23:59 GMT

In article <61989@mimsy.umd.edu> pr@umiacs.umd.edu (Jesus Rodriguez) writes:
>
>I would like to know if there is a FAQ list for this newsgroup, if there is
>could you forward a copy to pr@umiacs.umd.edu

It's about 151k. Here's this instead. :)

NEW USERS: WHERE TO GET THE LINUX FAQ (please read)

In response to the numerous postings that continually ask questions covered
in the FAQ for this group, I'm going to post this article to reiterate where
new readers and users of Linux can find the FAQ. I will post it for a while.
It suppliments the Meta-FAQ. :)

PLEASE: EVERYONE read the FAQ for this group before posting questions. Many 
people (myself included) worked hard to produce the FAQ to accurately answer 
all of your questions. The new version of the FAQ (with many updates, 
clarifications, etc.) will only come out every month! So you won't see it 
posted that often. In the meantime you'll have to get it in one of the
following ways:

1)  ftp to tsx-11.mit.edu. It's the file /pub/linux/FAQ. It's one big
    ASCII file (about 150k). 
or  ftp to sunsite.unc.edu. It's the file /pub/Linux/docs/FAQ. Again, one
    big ASCII file, same thing as on tsx-11.mit.edu.

2)  If you don't have FTP access, you can retrieve it via the mailserver at
    pit-manager.mit.edu. Send mail to mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu with the
    word "help" in the body.
or  If you simply can't find the FAQ, I will mail it to you myself. Just
    send me mail (mdw@tc.cornell.edu).

3)  The most recent FAQ will be posted to comp.os.linux and news.answers
    every month (if you want to wait...).

FOR FURTHER INFORMATION: Read the "Meta-FAQ" posted weekly to this group.
It gives you all of the pointers on where to look for Linux information.

Thanks.

mdw

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lcd@ais.org (Leon Dent)
Subject: Re: cron gets stuck.
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:58:05 GMT

I used crontab -r!  I discovered that crond stops working while testing
uucp. I repeatedly reset the time in the crontab by editing a copy, and
then crontab -r newtab.  After that, no crontabs were executed, including
the root crontab which continously echos "Hello" to /tmp/cron_running.

Try updating a non-root crontab and post your results.

Maybe I have some kind of permissions problem?

Leon Dent
lcd@ais.org

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kilroy@ms.uky.edu (Paul S. Kilroy)
Subject: Re: X11 w/ 2Mb --> Don't bother...
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:32:42 GMT
Organization: Big, Dangerous Ideas, Inc.

You might want to try the "lighter wieght" xterms
at export.lcs.mit.edu, Ive never tried 'em, but
it might help with some of the problems, plus
who needs clock anyway


paul

-- 
                       -Paul   (kilroy@ms.uky.edu)
From: baumbach@sun1.ruf.uni-freiburg.de (Kai Baumbach)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Yet another X-Problem
Keywords: Xfree86
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:48:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: sun1.1992Nov6.124809.28608
Organization: Rechenzentrum der Universitaet Freiburg, Deutschland

Hi Linux-Xers,

here's just another guy who doesn't bring X to run.
When I type stratx I get:
Creating TCP socket: Invalid argument

then the screen chnages to 50% gray and a mouse-cross appears. It takes
a few seconds until the screen changes to blue and disappears.
Then I see these additional error messages:

exec: gwm: not found

waiting for X server to shut down XFree86 Version 1.0Ya / X Window System
(protocol Version 11, revision 0, vendor release 5000)
Configured drivers:
  VGA256 (256 colour SVGA):
      et4000, et3000, pvga1, gvga, ati, tvga8900
VGA256: et4000 (mem: 512k numclocks: 3)
VGA256:   clocks: 25 28 36
VGA256: SpeedUp code selection modified because virtualX != 1024
VGA256: SpeedUp mode selected (Flags=0xf)

xinit:  Interrupted system call (errno 4):  Client error.
Error: Can't open display: :0
Error: Can't open display: :0

Any clues?
I think I've set up everything correctly so far...
Release is SLS 0.98 from mid-October.

Thanks in advance and keep on linuxing !

Kai
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From: jy10033@ehsn11.cen.uiuc.edu (Joshua M Yelon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Bugs in LINUX tar (?)
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:42:57 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Last night I switched from minix FS to ext FS.  Here are the steps
I went through:

* tarred my whole filesystem using gnu tar, split tarfile onto floppies.
* reformatted hard disk using mkefs. 
* reloaded software from floppy using the tar on the 0.98 rootdisk.

Much to my chagrin, though, the tar on the root floppy didn't seem
to quite understand the tarfile format: it loaded the files up ok,
and got all the chmod bits right, but got most of the file ownerships
wrong!  Needless to say, this took a long time to fix.

It may be important that I use UID's greater than 1000...  although
I can't see why that would be a problem, it IS unusual.