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From: timh@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Timothy James Hatfield)
Subject: Re: The last *ever* one was in Portland (was Re: Film Fests)
Keywords:  Maybe NOT, KIDS !! 
Organization: Uni Computing Service, Uni of Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:32:23 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.072749.20384@iWarp.intel.com> merlyn@iWarp.intel.com (Randal L. Schwartz) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.035548.22518@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, ahawks@isis (ronald reagan) writes:
>| A couple years ago, a local theatre had a SW film fest, showing all 3 movies
>| back to back....It was great seeing them on the big screen again - I was
>| wondering if this type of event happens a lot around the country or not...
>| There was one bad point, though, about :30 minutes worth of TESB was very
>| "dirty" (awful red tint on the screen and a lot of what looked to be dust
>| particles and such on the film) - by the 4th time I went to this fest, an
>| announcer guy came on and explained that TESB was in "pretty bad shape, but
>| it's the best we could get our hands on".  How many copies of the films are out
>| there?  Are they all deteriorating?
>
>Well, hey, time to bring this up.
>
>Here in Portland Oregon (see my other post regarding how seriously
>we take movies around here), they showed (get this):
>
>THE LAST EVER SCREENING OF ALL THREE STAR WARS MOVIES.
>
>Sorry people.  We got it.  A few weeks ago.  And never again.

	[blah blah blah etc ...] 
>
>The rest of you will just have to watch it on Laserdisc. :-) I mean,
>they said it at least twice in the ad: "after this screening, these
>three movies will be *pulled* from circulation *forever*."  I believe
>they were serious.  And since we were the town that ran Star Wars for
>79 weeks initially (setting the record), they probably owed it to us
>to wrap it up. 

Well MAYBE it was the last, but I'm not so sure, buddy !! Down here in the
land of Oz they seem to have "trilogy screenings" fairly regularly at
bargain prices, so unless the plug has REALLY been well & truly pulled,
which I doubt, then I think we may see another one down here soon ...

Then again, maybe we won't ... do any other Aussies out there have any info
on this ??
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: script...Whoops
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:23:54 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

Whoops, just one little mistake, the message with no part numbers
is part number 6....

-- 
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
From: johnson@spectra.com (boyd johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:59:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: spectra.1992Apr16.015957.29198
Organization: Spectragraphics Corporation

In article <1992Apr15.183517.3247@muddcs.claremont.edu> ksun@jarthur.claremont.edu (Kang Sun) writes:
>
>I think that is true.  Star Wars started with Episode IV rather than I.
>
>I believe Lucas is making the first saga right now but don't quote me on it.
>It's just a rumor.  The info I had said Lucas is making another Star Wars
>saga because the computer technology enables him to create some awsome
>special effects.  If that's true.  I can't wait to see them.

I am not a Star Wars expert, but I'll add my 2 cents worth from my
recollection.

Nobody was given a clue that the first Star Wars was actually SW-IV
until the second one came out, which was called episode 5.
Star Wars wasn't labeled episode IV until the video tape was released.

I heard Lucas wrote nine episodes (non-Lucas paperback episodes don't count) 
but he only wanted to direct the existing trilogy.

Now if he or Spielberg or someone would get hot on the rest of them they
would have certain money-makers if they did them up right.

The stars of 4 - 6 would not be in the other six episodes.  At least not
the same actors, probably their characters would be.

-- 
======== Boyd Johnson    nosc!spectra.com!johnson  San Diego, Ca. ========
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Boba Fett future and past
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 02:15:59 GMT

Boba Fett will be returning in the pages of DARK EMPIRE.
Vietch(the writer) said that Fett was one of the most popular characters in
the series and the way he died was dumb, so, LucasFilm is letting him bring 
Fett back.

BTW Has anyone ever seen the wookie scalps hanging from Fett's armor?

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From: v122jr52@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Thomas H Dunning)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:54:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr15.205718.18842@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, gat@forsight.jpl.nasa.gov (Erann Gat) writes...
>In article <1992Apr15.183517.3247@muddcs.claremont.edu> ksun@jarthur.claremont.edu (Kang Sun) writes:
>>
>>I think that is true.  Star Wars started with Episode IV rather than I.
> 
>I don't think this is quite true.  All of the videos and re-releases of
>Star Wars now open tantalizingly with the title "Episode IV: A New Age"
>or whatever it is.  But way back in 1977 when Star Wars first came out it
>was just Star Wars.  No episode number, no talk of a Grand Plan.

We just had a 35mm copy of Star Wars here at SUNY Buffalo a few weeks back
and it clearly had a "Chapter IV" or some other such designation.
While this could be a re-release, I find that doubtful considering the
shape the film was in and the cost for 35mm prints.

						td
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From: v101pyrw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Michelle L. Zafron)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Comix
Date: 16 Apr 92 03:09:00 GMT
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Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <92106.175956EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>, EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu (Ernie Oporto) writes...
>In article <2753@master.CNA.TEK.COM>, frankm@shadow.CNA.TEK.COM (Frank 'Scruff'
>Miller) says:
>>Are the original set of comic books worth anything .... as a kid
>>I bought the first ten and then tucked them away.

>Not really...I just aquired over 3/4 of the whole set all at once for about
>$2 a piece by trading other comics for them....

First off, what condition are your comics in?  That matters.  Did you have them
lying in a closet somewheres or were they properly stored.  Secondly, with
the Star Wars comics, it matters which printings you have of the early issues.
One version of #1 is worth at CVM prices over $300.  If the comics are in 
crappy condition, you'll probably be able to get a couple of bucks for them.

You can probably unload them at a decent price if they're in good condition.
Rec.arts.comics.marketplace is a good place to ask about how to sell comics
or what they're listed as, etc.

--Michelle L. Zafron (v101pyrw@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu)
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From: tmw4r@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Thomas Munroe Walsh)
Subject: Re: Cut-scene 2
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 19:10:58 GMT

In article <92108.114447MAC139@psuvm.psu.edu> MAC139@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>In article <92108.093721EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>, BIG ED <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
>says:
>>
>>In article <1992Apr17.070910.4489@tc.cornell.edu>,
>>chris@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu
>>(Chris Wolf) says:
>>>
>>>I don't know if the scene was even ever filmed but I believe originally
>>>a scene where some of the Wampa's got into the rebel base and mauled
>>>some Taun-Taun's was planned.  Artoo was supposed to save the day by
>>>broadcasting some high-frequency noise or somesuch which either drove
>>>the creatures away or lured them into a trap.  I have no idea where I
>>>got this information from though...
>>>
>>
>>    I also remember hearing about that too. I can't remember if it was because
>>of the storybook, or it was in the trading cards somewhere along the way. Any
>> one else remember anything about R2 and the Wampas?
>>
>Come to think of it, I do recall *reading* a scene where R2 does something to a
>Wampa that breaks through part of a wall. Whether it was using high-frequency
>noise or some sort of wampa-cide I don't know. I also seem to recall reading
>a scene where the probe droid takes out one of the sentry posts. I think most
>of these recollections come from the comics or novelization.
>
>      Brian                                     /|     |\
>      Penn State                               (_|_/:\_|_)
>      mac139@psuvm.psu.edu                       /_|-|_\

I don't believe that any scene like this was included in the comic 
adaptation.  This scene was almost definitely written because a scene that
remained in ESB had some ice falling from the ceiling with R2 stopping and
noticing it.  You get the impression something was going on but nothing
ever came of it.

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| T. J. Walsh            | "No one's life, liberty, or property are     |
| University Of Virginia | safe while the legislature is in session."   |
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From: ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu (alice in wonderland)
Subject: SW Cards (was Re: Missing Scene in Star Wars)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 20:11:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.184714.1533@athena.mit.edu> bike@athena.mit.edu (Michael
Y Fan) writes: 
|
|I still have my complete set.  I wonder what they're worth?  Anyone know?
|
|						Mike Fan

Here's some info. that may help, it's all I could find:  
(from Baseball Card News, March 18, 1991)

Title:		Company:	Year:		Set Size:	Value:
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
TESB		Topps		80		352 cards	$35 (mint/ex)
TESB(5x7 crds)  Topps		80		30		$10
RotJ		Topps		83		132		$20
RotJ set 2	Topps		83		88		$12 

(sorry, couldn't find the original SW set, but judginf from my experiences and
what I know of it, I'd say a complete set in mint condition would be worth
$50-75 - If a new movie comes out soon, expect it to jump $10 or so)

--


ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu						andy

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From: mrosen@isis.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen)
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS? (1st post?)
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 06:31:16 GMT

I really hope this gets out to the rest of the world, please mail me if it 
does.

Since no one has mentioned this...I will.  What I was told is this:
That Lucas planned to have each trilogy released twenty years after
the previous one (i.e. 1977-->1997-->2017).  This is so that each
generation will have a Star Wars to themselves.  Since the chapters
are already written, Lucas doesn't necessarily have to be alive for
the last installment.  There will be plenty of people (at ILM,
presumably) to follow in his footsteps.

Mike
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From: awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh)
Subject: The Beginning...
Reply-To: awalsh@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 22:24:10 GMT

May the Force Be With Us... 


Always.

And now, REC.ARTS.SF.STARWARS BEGINS!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: malinon@iastate.edu (Ramon C Redondo)
Subject: Re: John's Mysterious Clip
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:14:02 GMT

In <SFD.92Apr16212156@bezier.bezier.berkeley.edu> sfd@bezier.berkeley.edu (Scott Drellishak) writes:


>STOP POSTING YOUR [expletive deleted] MAIL SPOOL, PUTZ!

>I have spoken.

>Scott

Don't ya think you could have been a LITTLE more polite and/or understanding
about it?  Sheesh!

Dark Malinon

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From: dyrda@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (The Conservative)
Subject: Re: trivia
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 17:58:10 GMT

>>     Before Uncle Owen told Luke to clean up C3-PO and R2, what was Luke
>>     going to do?
>
>He was going into town to pick up some  ??????
>

 Power Convertors, he was going to pick up some power convertors.
IMHO Darth Vader was my favorite character, the ultimate bad ass.
"Apology accepted, Captain Needa!!!"
This is the best quote in the series, IMHO!!
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Richard Dyrda                    |  o    | " I can't answer that on the 
Idaho National Engr. Laboratory  | <(    |  grounds that it will incri- 
c/o School of Nuclear Engineering|  [\.  |  minate me!" Carlos Marcello  
       dyr@wsewc.INEL.gov        | FORE! | 151 times said at Senate, 1961    
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From: scl1@cec1.wustl.edu (Steven Charles De Lassus)
Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS?  (1st post?)
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:22:04 GMT


Just how much are these original Star Wars posters worth?  (Anybody know?)  I
happen to have one setting on my dresser here...   

Steve

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From: schitre@newton.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: huh?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:56:01 PDT

In article <1992Apr16.234835.5121@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, gt38091@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Gregory Tao ) writes:

> it's been a while since i last saw it, but i think it's the scene where luke
> is talking to ben after he rescues them from the sand people.  out of nowhere,
> luke says "you knew my father"...that line never made sense to me.

	Immediately before that Luke and Ben has been talking about why Uncle
Owen was so against Luke's leaving the planet. Ben says that Luke has some
characteristic in his personality (can't remember what it was), just like his
father. That's what brought on the "you knew my father" thing.
 
> while i'm on the subject, something that really pissed me off was that luke
> just jumped when darth vader said "luke, you can destroy the emporer...he has
> forseen this...it is your destiny...join me now and together we can rule the
> galaxy as father and son..."  personally, if my dad said that, i'd say "well,
> allllllright!"

	Would you have been willing to do that if the person claiming to be
your father had caused both yourself and your friends a great deal of pain and
trouble? Remember that Darth Vader was the epitome of evil in the first two
films. It's not until the third that you see just how much of a pawn to the
Emperor he was, and, of course, that he's not that bad a guy in the end.
	Besides, a Jedi Knight doesn't use the force for their own gains, only
to defend themselves and those around them. For Luke to join Vader he would
have to turn to the dark side so that he could use the Force for his personal
gain.

	Sunil
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From: sharon@wam.umd.edu (sharon)
Subject: Re: Possible/Maybe Cut-Scene
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 04:18:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.184349.11070@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu (alice in wonderland) writes:
>Ok, this has been bothering me for awhile (13 years).  In 1979, when I was 6
>years old, I went to see Star Wars at a friend's house - he was one of the
>lucky few to have a VCR in those days.  I seem to remember a scene involving
>some sort of chemistry-lab place on the Death Star.  In the scene were some
>sort of doctor character, and one of those Death Star worker guys with the big
>black helmets (the kind that look somewhat aerodynamic).  The doctor was
>putting something into a needle, and I think this later became that
>floating-orb thing that goes up to Leia when she's in the cell-block, when
>Vader wants to learn the location of the Rebel base.
>
>This scene really doesn't affect the movie in any way, but I haven't seen it
>since (it's not on small-screen or large -screen versions), and I'm just
>wondering if there really was this scene or if my memory is just messing with
>me.  I mean, I was only 6 years old, so it's entirely possible that I'm wrong
>here. But I've also thought a lot about the fact that this was 1979, my friend
>was the first person I knew who had a VCR, and it's possible that back then a
>different version of the movie was released on home video.  
>
>Any info is much appreciated!
>
>--
>
>
>ahawks@isis.cs.du.edu						andy
>
	OK, nobody jump down my throat because I really do remember these 
scenes i'm not just remember imaginings but I believe that was a torture drug
in the torture droid. I recall the scene with Vader entering the Leia's cell and
being unable to get the location of the rebel base and as he left the torture
 droid entering her cell with a "doctor"
but I'm not sure I ever saw the chemistry lab part. I know I read the scene
in a book or comic and then watched Star Wars again and it was gone (I think I
saw it on tv) and then when the movie came out on video i believe it was in
fact there. I don't recall if it was in the big screen version or not.
Laura  
]
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Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 00:29:35 EDT
From: <MAC139@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: 9 Volumes of STAR WARS? (1st post?)
 <1992Apr15.183517.3247@muddcs.claremont.edu>
 <1992Apr15.205718.18842@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>

In article <1992Apr15.205718.18842@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>,
gat@forsight.jpl.nasa.gov (Erann Gat) says:
>
>IMHO the thing that made Star Wars one of the great films of all time is
>not the special effects (though they were cool too) but the fact that it
>was the first science fiction film where the characters were not constantly
>going "Gee Whiz" over the technology.  This made them much more believable
>as inhabitants of a futuristic society.
     [stuff deleted]
>                          The spaceships and the blasters were treated
>very casually, and they were often old and beat up and in need of repairs.
>My favorite part of the movie is when we get our first look and the
>Millenium Falcon, a pretty cool looking ship (especially in 1977) and
>Luke says, "What a piece of junk!"  Now that's believable!
>
I agree totally. I saw a special on PBS called "StarWars to Jedi" where Lucas
said one of the things that annoyed him about some sci-fi films was that they
spent a lot of money on special effects and the producers figured they had to
show the audience the effects every 5 minutes to get make the effects invest-
ment worthwhile. (The first StarTrek movie comes to mind here.) One of the
great things about the SW trilogy is that you can go back again and again to
catch details about certain ships and technologies. I remember when SW came out
I wanted to see the film again just to see more of the Star Destroyers.

--Brian
From: EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu (BIG ED)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Soundtracks to Star Wars Movies on CD?
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:17:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92107.131704EMW107
 <1992Apr16.155521.9002@midway.uchicago.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Apr16.155521.9002@midway.uchicago.edu>, h309@quads.uchicago.edu
(Unknown Author) says:
>>
>>I have the CD for The Empire Strikes Back, but am looking for the
>>CD's for Star Wars and Return of the Jedi. Does anybody know
>>where I can find these? I don't want to have to make a tape off of
>>my old records!
>>

      All the CD's you speak of are on Polygram records, and as far as I can
tell, are pretty easy to find. I have all three on CD, and by far the best is
Star Wars (which is a double disc set). Empire on LP was on 2 records, but on
the disc, they cutoff quite a bit of music, which really ticks me off, since
the CD version only takes up 40 minutes, so why didn't they just stick the rest
on? As far as RotJ, it definately takes 3rd place. Mr. Williams just seemed to
lose something, and it too is too short.

Here are the serial numbers:

            Star Wars: The Original Motion Picture Soundtrack      800 096-2
               (2-Disc set, 16 tracks)
            Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back Original Soundtrack   825 298-2
               (1 Disc, 10 tracks)
            Star Wars: Return of the Jedi Original Soundtrack      811 767-2
               (1 Disc, 11 tracks)

      All are from Polydor, a division of PolyGram Records Inc.

                            810 Seventh Avenue
                            New York, NY  10019

*Note, this is not an advertisement for PolyGram, for I have no affliation with
       them whatsoever. Just trying to help out.

                                     -Ed

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From: sjm@mermaid.msel.unh.edu (Scott McCue)
Subject: Re: does anyone remember a star wars based novel ...
Organization: UNH Marine Systems Engineering Laboratory
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:43:40 GMT

In article <92107.145443U21187@uicvm.uic.edu> John Schulien <U21187@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>... that came out soon after the movie. All I remember is that it had Luke
>and Leia hacking through a jungle planet. I don't even remember who wrote
>the book. The plot didn't mesh very nicely with the subsequent movies. I
>seem to remember them coming across various abandoned temples and shrines.
>
>Well, is this vague enough?!? Any clues anyone?

   This sounds to me like _Splinter of the Minds Eye_ by A.D. Foster.
Unfortunately, I read it once when it first came out (1978?) and title,
author, and plot are all sketchy to me.

Scott M.