HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ryan.cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Kikustaatu-Do: The Wa
Date: 22 Jan 93 00:03:00 GMT
Reply-To: ryan.cousineau@compdyn.questor.org (Ryan Cousineau) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Dynamics - Vancouver B.C. - (604)986-9937 (604)255-9937

DS>>> had no time to take a shower, have a major deadline at work and a
DS>>> gnarly case of PMS, my bike has started up all by itself, rather than
DS>>> face a minute of my wrath.
DS>>
DS>>I think we've go a winner here, folks.

DS>Agree completely.  And, in that case, I would like to nominate Laura as
DS>the official DoD Keeper of the Gnarly PMS.

I am, by gender, excluded from any PMS-related competitions. I do
however have a strong contender for rattiest of the ratbikes.

At age 19, I have a second-generation rat. In fact, this 1958 AJS 500
C/S was a piece of crap in the early 60s when my dad bought it. It still
is. it has needed a paint job since the early sixties, right after my
dad finished painting it. It has a battery cover made out of plywood, a
seat brace made out of wood, no working gauges, although there is a
nonfunctional voltmeter in the headlight case. The transmission has
always been a dry-clutch, despite what the designers specified, thanks
to leakage. ditto for the primary chain case, although there's grease in
there to keep things hunky-dory. The magneto -- all 10,000 windings
of it -- was wound on the kitchen table. The bike ran better with the
new mag than it ever did with the old. The last time I kicked the bike
to life, it took 20 minutes. I partly blame poor application of the
handlebar-mounted igniton advance control. The kickstarting mechanism
required new parts when I was done (I'm not joking! unlike previous
macho fantasies, this really happened. rjc). The forks are bent. The
frame doesn't look bent. The rider is definitely bent. The exhaust note
of this monstrous single makes Hog-keepers cower. Foreign-made engine
cases have been known to harmonically vibrate to death in this thing's
presence (and from my area code, the US is a foreign country . . . of
course, the engine case bit is made up, unlike the other bits).

So, any challengers?

Ryan Cousinetc.
   
 * SLMR 2.0 * It's not what you ride, it's that you ride.
                                                                      
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From: smithsh@sumax.seattleu.edu (Scott H. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: New motorcycle purchase; advice sought.
Date: 24 Jan 93 06:09:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu


I am interested in purchasing a new motorcycle of the 1993 model year. Does
anybody have any advice on how to find the best price? Are there data sheets
available, like the automotive ones available from Consumer Reports? Or, is
there a national clearing house where I can order a bike and have it shipped?

Scott Smith
smithsh@seattleu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: lawrence@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Lawrence H. Smith,E20 Clark,56064,2726746)
Subject: Re: Courier bag:  I have one.
Originator: lawrence@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:06:20 GMT

fussy@hairball.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom Fussy - Display Development):
>
> Aerostich makes one of these
Got one.( I have the larger size )
> 1)  Are they prone to buffeting in the wind on the highway?
Nope.
> 2)  Are they comfortable?  Do you forget you have it on?
Yup. Nope.
> 3)  Are they suited to all riding positions, i.e. do they work as well
>     on sport bikes (lay down riding position) as on cruisers, and everything
>     in between?
Give me a few more bikes to play with and I'll tell you :-) ;-)...
Works fine on my standard.
> 4)  Do you like yours?  Is it practical and usefull?
Yes. Wish I'd got the black (when I got it they only had black or gray. The
gray is greenish. _Now_ they have red and blue as well, and the red is to
die for. Want a good deal on a gray one???

> I'm mostly concerned with numbers 1) and 2).  It seems like they would "kite"
> all over the place from the wind blast on the highway.
Nope. It's behind you. Helps if it's not empty, too, but this does not happen
even then to a noticable extent.

The only unsatisfying detail is the slider where the strap loops at the bag
attachment so it can adjust. The slot is too wide, so the straps tend to
slide over and pile up at opposite narrow ends of the slider, instead of
riding on the wide surfaces neatly.

-Lawrence Smith, MSC Computing Staff - Cornell Univ., Ithaca, NY
 lawrence@msc.cornell.edu lawrence@crnlmsc2.bitnet (607)255-6064
-Cats, Coffee, Chocolate... Vices to live by. DoD# i
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: L629159@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Just starting
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 09:34:10 PST

From: Luis Miguel Quinta <lquinta@animal.inescn.pt>

Hi folks!

I've just joined the motorcycle world (and news group).
Two weeks ago I've bought a Yamaha XV535 Virago and, so far, I'm very
happy with her.
So, has a starter, I think I can make some inocent questions:

1 - Do you thing it was a good idea to start with a 535cc with 46cv bike ?

  Excellent idea.  Larger or smaller would also have been good.


2 - Can you reveal any experience you may have with a similar bike ?

  Sorry, My Guzzi 850 is the smallest I've ever had (only, acutally).


3 - I'm not very familiarized with biker language. In what classe of
motorcycle can you insert my new bike ?, Shopper ?, Costum ?, Can anyone
make a short description of styles and respective characteristics ?

  Post requesting a DoD number.  I think I can safely promise that
you will receive in return a minimum of one copy of the FAQ.  Post
in praise of your bike, and you will probably learn exactly what
others think of it.


Thanks in advance

Luis

  No problem.  And welcome to biking.  Just remember that you are
putting on a cloak of invisibility every time you ride.

Al Moore   DoD  734
From: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com (David H. Wise)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: New Guppie in pond wants BMW info.
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:13:53 GMT
Reply-To: davewi@soccer.wv.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

In article <1993Jan24.220248.5090@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:

>Not all beemer pilots belong to the MOA.

And not all MOA members are beemer pilots.  Our own Chris Perez is a
good example of this, but I heard he put a down payment on a K75.  So
pretty soon he'll be a "normal" MOA member.
--
David Wise	davewi@orca.wv.tek.com
DoD#427		1980 CX500C (Packy), 1976 Guzzi 850-T3 (Mother Goose)
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Hawk/Bros/Revere/NTV650???
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:41:16 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View

In article <1993Jan27.082705.20135@hasler.ascom.ch> kevinh@hasler.ascom.ch writes:
}PB *really* liked the Bros (Hawk GT?) whilst they always seem to slag off
}the Revere. Anybody know why? - are there big differences between the
}two bikes, what are they? Is the Revere really boring and is the Hawk
}really fun for a low powered bike?? :-).

The Hawk is a really fun bike. And for someone who is used to riding
a 500 lb. Maxim 650 4-cylinder, the 400 lb. Hawk GT twin does not in any
way, shape, or form seem low-powered. Compared to an early '70s Kawasaki
RocketSled, sure. Compared to other bikes in its general class, it is
not low power at all.
-- 
Curtis Jackson			'91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	'92 Collie/Golden "George"
DoD #721	KotB		'91 Hawk GT	'81 Maxim 650
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Subject: Re: Blue Ridge Parkway
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:22:25 GMT

In article <1jpd4vINNsf3@cronkite.Central.Sun.COM> doc@webrider.central.sun.com writes:
>In many places it would be quite easy to become part of that 
>scenery.  Veeeeeerrrrrrrry looooooong drops to the valley!  Be
>a hell of a view though :^).

	Park Service employees at Grand Canyon NP call this the 12 second tour!

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"This is where I wanna sit and buy you a drink someday." - Temple of the Dog
Sea-Bass Sears --> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu --> DoD#516 <-- |Stanley, ID.|
'79 Yamaha XS750F -- '85 Toyota 4Runner -- Perception Corsica  |  NYC, NY.  |
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Know of any motorcycles movies?
Date: 24 Jan 93 01:24:13 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Neal Howard (neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org) wrote:
: 
: I second the motion that the LBotA be the "official DoD Role Model". Now we
: all must get tattoos of the thrush muffler bird. 
: -- 
: =============================================================================
: Neal Howard   '91 XLH-1200      DoD #686      CompuTrac, Inc (Richardson, TX)

What!  You don't already have one?  Hey! How'd this guy get a number?
They told me the thrush tattoo was required. . .
--

*******************************************************************************
* Bill Ranck    DoD #0496                             ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
* Computing Center at Virginia Tech, not Vermont ----------------------^^     *
*******************************************************************************
From: sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Sturges)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Need info on EX500
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:31:28 GMT
Reply-To: sturges@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Sturges)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

The question was to compare the hp of the EX500 and the FZR600
Here goes:
	   stock       modified    weight
EX500       45 hp        65 hp      320 lb
FZR600      75           85         400 lb

These numbers are from the top of my head, and should be pretty close.
They also represent real rear-wheel dyno numbers from my bikes, which
I will of course describe.  Stock means Stock.  The mods to the FZR
are supersport spec, ie, 5 angle valve job, muzzy pipe and dynojet kit.
The mods to the EX are extensive... 550cc, flowed head, larger valves,
cams, carbs, etc. (got 145mph at Daytona)  This is one of the fastest
EX500's in the country.

The point is....  The FZR is more powerful, and definitely faster, than
the EX.  Handles much better.  MUCH MUCH better.  Get one.  (hell, get
one of each - or everything - for yourself and compare)

	<================================================> 
       /        Rich Sturges           (h) 703-536-4443   \
      /    NSWC - Carderock Division   (w) 301-227-1670    \
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dev2@inform.co.nz (Michael Seales)
Subject: Re: That T2 motorcycle jump... Not real, just magic
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:26:03 GMT
Organization: InForm Group Ltd.

In article <viking.727599177@ponderous.cc.iastate.edu>, viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
> weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu (Mike Weaver) writes:
> 
> >|> 	No, it was real.  What was bullshit is him riding away from it.
> 
> 
> >No they didn't trash the bike in the movie. The jump was indeed bullshit. 
> >They had guy wires on the bike to guide it gently to the ground. They then
> >digitally edited the frames and wiped out the wires. Just another example
> >of the use of computers in mainstream movies.
> 
> 	That's not what I read in rec.moto when the movie first came out.
> If you can't trust the net for facts, what can you...  Oh.  Sorry.
> 
> 	Well, anyway the bike did make the jump.  Just very slowly.  How
> did they get the suspension to compress that much when they showed the
> landing, though, not to mention the sparks and the like?

I haven't seen the making, but they could have removed the springs from the
suspension, both front and rear, and the sparks could be created by anything
from computer graphics to fireworks.

Mike

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From: leavitt@cs.umd.edu (Mr. Bill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Blue Ridge Parkway
Date: 24 Jan 93 00:27:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Cafe at the Edge of the Universe

cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
>Specifically, the toll is $5.00 for cages and $2.00 for bicycles.  Depending
>on who's in the booth, what you ride, how nice you are, and time of month/
>phase of moon/tightness of underwear (used or new), you may be charged either
>rate.  I've always gotten on it for $2.00 -- but I ride Japcrap.

Doesn't Skyline Drive have a specific rate for motorcycles?  Trying to
remember, I don't recall seeing a motorcycle rate posted at the booths,
but I'm not sure I ever looked that closely.  I've always gotten on for
$2, never been charged $5.  We once got a group of 3 bikes on for $2 for
the entire group - that attendant gets my vote for employee of the year.

Whatever the policy, the attendants do seem to have a lot of latitude
for personal interpretation.

Mr. Bill
-- 
+    Bill Leavitt     +    '82 CBX "White Lightning", '82 GS850G "Suzibago"   +
+ leavitt@cs.umd.edu  +  '76 CJ360 "Little Honda", '68 Lone Star "Sick Leave" +
+ AMA, ICOA, DoD 224  +  '69 Impala convertible "The Incredible Hulk", others +
+ "Hmmm, I thought bore and stroke *was* the technique!" Michael "Poppa" Bain +
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: All-wheel drive???
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:55:52 GMT

ramage@ece.scarolina.edu (Dan Ramage) writes:
>robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu (Michael Robinson) writes:

>>He claims he saw an old Spagthorpe prototype that had a driven front wheel.
>>It was a water-cooled bike, but instead of a radiator, it had sort of a
>>boiler affair.  They ran steam lines down the front forks to a steam 
>>turbine in the front hub (the hub apparently looked sort of like a 
>>front drum brake type deal).  The clever part was the centrifugal vane
>>advance on the turbine which would adjust the vanes for maximum torque
>>when stopped, and maximum power at speed.

>>I was sort of skeptical, but he explained the reasoning behind it:  an
>>internal combustion engine is only about 70% efficient, with the rest
					  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>No where even close.  An internal combustion engine is around 30% 
>efficient and that is probably a little high.

Is this the net's first serious followup to a Spagthorpe article?
Congratulations on your catch Michael, are you going to mount him in the
den, or just hang him on the wall in your garage?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: tony@sundc.East.Sun.COM (Tony Vincent-Sun-Vienna VA-Chesapeake RSEM)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: motorcycle wanted
Date: 23 Jan 1993 13:17:18 -0500
Organization: /applic/local/news/lib/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: sundc.east.sun.com

Well, after lots of talk, I am finally looking to get back in the
saddle....

So, I am in the market for a clean used bike in the 600-750cc range.
Kind of an "everyman's bike".  Not a cruiser, not a bullet bike, not
too old, and not with too many miles.  [I'm not picky--right? ;-) ]
Something like a Nighthawk 650, Nighthawk S (700), Hawk GT, Fazer,
Radian, etc.  Something with a fairly upright seating position and and
a seat height of ~32" or less.

I have tried the local motorcycle dealers, but the seem to have pretty
slim pickings on used bikes.

So, here I turn.  Anyone got a bike that fits the above that the are
trying to sell, and is housed less than a day's ride from the
Washington D.C. area?

Thanks,

-tv
-- 
Tony Vincent--Chesapeake Regional SE Mgr--Sun Microsystems Computer Corp
2650 Park Tower Dr--Suite 550--Vienna, VA 22180--703-204-4854
***From The Empire*** Luke--"Alright, I'll give it a try."
***Strikes Back...*** Yoda--"No! Try not. Do or do not. There is no 'try'."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: L629159@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: Its off to the basement we go
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 13:04:36 PST

From: mbeaving@bnr.ca (The Beav Beavington):

In an effort to prevent the crunching of knuckles in -15C temperatures,
I have decided to move the motorcycle into the basement for the rebuild.
I have removed the gas tank, rear tail light assembly, carbs, seat,
mirrors, etc.. so that the most I have left is the wheels, engine block
and handlebars.  Being a V65 Sabre, it still weighs around 300 pounds.
Has anybody had a successful experience with negotiating a set of
stairs (7 1/4" rise, 10" run)?

Me:
  Haven't tried this on a bike I couldn't ride.  How wide is the
  staircase?

The Beav:
By the way, the wife is off on a business project for a couple
of months so this will just be our little secret.

Mike Beavington   mbeaving@bnr.ca

Me:
Don't count on it.  Moving a bike up and down stairs, and doing
  a rebuild without leaving clear marks will be an interesting
  proposition.  The cleanup alone...

Al Moore  DoD  734
From: tcora@pica.army.mil (Tom Coradeschi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: That T2 motorcycle jump... Not real, just magic
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:43:10 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Elect Armts Div, US Army Armt RDE Ctr, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

In article <viking.727863304@vincent2.iastate.edu>, viking@iastate.edu (Dan
Sorenson) wrote:
> 
> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
> 
> >Another trick: in the scenes where John Conner was being chased, he was
> >not riding the XR-80. There was a fancy motion rig (perhaps the "cage"
> >that the article Alex quoted was thinking of) fastened to the bike, and
> >the kid just sat there while a crew moved the bike from side to side
> >while the whole rig drove down the LA River. If they'd shown the XR's
> >lower half, you'd have seen the support mechanism.
> 
> 	I didn't need to know this -- I figured it was fake when I had
> to take off my shoes to count the number of times he upshifted.  Total
> number of downshifts?  Zero.  The two-stroke soundtrack was confirmation.
> 
> >PS, Arnie really did shoot all those cops in the leg, I heard it on the
> >net.
> 
> 	You heard that too?

I keep tellin folks that Arnie Skurow is a troublemaker. Now we've got
independent confirmation!

PS: Thanks for the sticker info, Arnie...

                tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil
From: Michael.Nelson@f20.n125.z1.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: 1972 Kawasaki H2 lives....
X-Sender: newtout 0.07 Jan 18 1993
Date: 26 Jan 93  22:01:24

Tuesday January 26 1993 09:16, John Hamilton wrote to All:

JH-> Well, I bought it for a nostalgia investment, so I guess I'll just run
JH-> it once in a while, and let it sit in my living room the rest of the
JH-> time as a conversation piece. If it didnt' have a gas tank and an
JH-> engine, it would look like a bicycle! :-)

    Why don't you give it to Ed?


                                - Michael -

 *--------------------------------------------------------------*
 |                          |                                   |
 | Michael Nelson           | "A billion here, a billion there, |
 | DoD #735                 |  sooner or later it adds up to    |
 | 1993 Honda CBR900RR      |  some real money!"                |
 |                          |                                   |
 | nelson@seahunt.imat.com  |           EVERETT DIRKSEN         |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker)
Subject: Re: Its off to the basement we go
Keywords: look out below
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:08:27 GMT

mbeaving@bnr.ca (The Beav Beavington) writes:

>In an effort to prevent the crunching of knuckles in -15C temperatures,
>I have decided to move the motorcycle into the basement for the rebuild.
>I have removed the gas tank, rear tail light assembly, carbs, seat, 
>mirrors, etc.. so that the most I have left is the wheels, engine block
>and handlebars.  Being a V65 Sabre, it still weighs around 300 pounds.
>Has anybody had a successful experience with negotiating a set of 
>stairs (7 1/4" rise, 10" run)? 

i suggest you install a block and tackle or winch between the top of
the stairs and the back of the bike.  have two people steady it and
let the winch operator lower it slowly.
-- 
-- 
-- bob pasker
-- rbp@netcom.com
--
From: set@mt.luth.se (Sven-Erik Tiberg)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Hydro-Phneum susp for bmw
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:50:14 GMT
Reply-To: Sven-Erik Tiberg <set@mt.luth.se>
Organization: University of Lulea, Sweden
UUCP-Path: {uunet,mcvax}!sunic!mt.luth.se!set

Iv'e got a BMW R100RS -78 with some modifications as 4-V krausser cyl.heads,
LT-seatbank, stiffen frame and swing, air-supported front suspention a.s.o.
Next subject are to mounth a single Citroeng GS suspention unit on the rear
swing to achive better comfort in solo for fun as for hollidaytrip.
Since I'm prof. work with more or less active suspentions it would be fun 
to get this on my bike to.
Problems ( challanges ) 1 how to substitute the hydraulic pump.
      2 Optimazation of the swing to get strait vertical movement. 
      3 To use the stock accumulator or flexible tube.
      4 To have an manual or elctrical switch between soft and sport ride.
                ( using one or two tubes/accumulators. )
 
Has anyone tried this madnees please mail me.

Sven-Erik Tiberg
Lulea univ. of Techn. 
Phone Sweden 920-91218  Fax. S-(0)920-91047
Mail set@mt.luth.se
From: rbodepud@sedona.intel.com (Ramana Bodepude)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Diet Coke, Official drink of DoD
Keywords: Diet Coke
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:03:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: inews.C1FH58.6L0
Reply-To: rbodepud@sedona.intel.com
Distribution: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Intel Corporation
Originator: rbodepud@moonlight



I hereby nominate "DIET COKE" as the official drink of the DoD
for their cool advt. which shows a caption saying

	"Insurance agents who speed"

and shows two guys racing on sport bikes (Not HD's) and we can hear 
the slogan "taste it all" playing in the background.

DoD Rule# 3: Anyone caught drinking Pepsi will lose their DoD
	     membership.
DoD Rule# 4: Second offence will result in the offender being shot.



Ramana Bodepudi

Disciple Of the Devil #0799 
(Actually wanted 666 or 666/666)
CBR 600