From: sgast+@pitt.edu (Susan Garvin)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: MEET GEORGE TILLER, LATE-TERM ABORTIONIST Part Two
Keywords: DODie, lies
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:26:31 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Dec23.024128.9180@ncsu.edu> dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu 
(Doug "get yer fat black ass down here" Holtsinger) writes:
#In article <1095@blue.cis.pitt.edu> 
#sgast+@pitt.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:
##nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos) writes:
#
## [lots of PHoney's bullshit deleted]
#
#The "bullshit" that you have deleted is information quoted 
#directly from an advertisement in the abortion clinic where 
#Dr. Tiller works.  Still think it's "bullshit", Ms. Garvin? ;-) 

It's still bullshit, Reverend, because it is not "information
quoted directly from an advertisement in the abortion clinic
where Dr. Tiller works."  It is tripe that PHoney created mixed
in with pieces of quotes (supposedly) from an advertisement.

I know that you don't recognize a difference between actual,
contextual quotes and selectively chosen sentence fragments,
but I do.

#Here Ms. Garvin deletes the following key sentences, where
#Mr. Nyikos talks about the fee schedule:
#
### The cold light of reality begins with the fee schedule.  Sixteen to 22
### weeks, $750; 22 to 26 weeks, $1800.  Beyond 26 weeks, $2200.  

Why are these key sentences?  Because you want to see the fees
listed again?  Or because you like repeating unsubstantiated
rumor?

#Notice that Mr. Nyikos acknowledges that the information 
#on the fee schedule was not obtained from Dr. Tiller: 

Of course he did.  I quoted his achnowledgement.

### This
### information is missing from the brochure, and I am relying for it on
### _Pro Life Answers to Pro Choice Arguments_, by Randy Alcorn, Multnomah
### Press, 1992.  Information current as of May 1991, courtesy of Ann Tilson
### writing in _Kansans for Life_.
#
## Really - why bother with original sources when you can use
## pro-lie propaganda instead?  
#
#Notice how Ms. Garvin deletes a few key sentences above 
#to make it appear as though all of Mr. Nyikos' information
#was obtained from pro-life sources.  

It would only appear that way to a moron like you, DODie.  There
is a reference to the brochure in the included quote.  

#In fact, much of the
#information was obtained using Dr. Tiller's advertisements 
#and using quotes of Dr. Tiller.

In fact, you don't know that, do you, Reverend?  Nyikos could
have made it up.

Of course, Reverend Holtsinger deleted the part of my post where
I said that anyone who was interested in checking on PHoney
could call Dr. Tiller's clinic themselves.  DODie hates for
people to learn the truth about anything.

#Really Ms. Garvin, I had expected better from you.  Normally
#you're pretty good at misrepresenting other peoples' posts.

I'm sure that there's a niche for you in the pro-lie movement,
DODie.  As I said, though, it's not arguing that all pro-forcers
aren't lunatics.  It's not believable coming from you.  Similarly,
there's a niche for you in t.a.  It's not accusing other people
of misrepresenting posts, though, for the same reason.  If you
insist on trying to fulfill this latter role, let me give you
some advice - at least try not to misrepresent one person's article 
when you accuse them of misrepresenting a third person's article.
Fewer people will laugh at you.

Susan




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