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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: XDZ Top 10
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:58:39 GMT

Some local rag wanted to know, so I threw this together.  I would appreciate
any comments about this.

XDZebra's Top Ten Artists and/or Albums

1. The Orb.  Virtually everything that falls from Alex Patterson's and
Thrash's hands is unbelievably good.  The best of ambience and the deepest of
deep.  Your life will be different after you accept The Orb.  I know it
changed mine.

2. Orbital.  The two brothers who didn't accept what everyone else was doing
and created their own sound.  Amazingly enough, it fit the dance scene better
than anything else.  Twisting, mutating, flowing, trancing, their music takes
you on an inner trip into another dance dimension.

3. Aphex Twin.  Young and unbelievably talented, Richard James turned the rave
world upside down with his sound.  Unsatisfied with brand synthesizers, he
builds his own.  From hardcore to trance, he is able to satisfy a wide range
of listeners, yet stand alone.

4. Moby. The undisputed ravemaster of the universe, Moby puts on performances
that leaves people flattened.  His recordings and remixes never drag, never
disappoint.  He shows the ability of a true artist in making you scream or
dream.

5. Give Peace a Dance Volume 2.  Out for almost a year, this compilation still
stands as the best collection of ambient dance music out there.

6. LFO. Vocorders gone crazy.  Yet another one man band who produces some of
the best techno available.  Very well known, but frustratingly hard to
acquire, his releases are true gems in my stack.

7. Coil "The Snow".  Probably the only track that I've consistently tried to
mix into every set I've done.  Probably the only track that would raise me from
the dead to dance to.

8. The Future Sound of London.  First the deeply beautiful single "Papua New
Guinea" then the astounding album "Accelerator".  Really does sound like music
dropped from a time warp.

9. Jam & Spoon "Tales From A Danceographic Ocean" Remixes.  Five well done
remixes done of their track "Stella" by Moby, Frank De Wulf, and Jam & Spoon
themselves, this takes a great track and lifts it even higher.  The two extra
tracks are less than spectacular, but this is still a great disc.

10. Ravesignal.  Several releases by CJ Bolland under the Ravesignal name, of
only which I have a few.  All of them are mindsplitting hardcore done outside
of the standard boring "James Brown Is Dead" style.
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rlippert@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Ryan Jon Lippert)
Subject: Re: Anyone go to THE FINAL CALL: How was it?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 04:52:12 GMT

Heres the deal.
Rave & Stimpy THAT was the one that was in the BAD neighborhood! Parallel
Universe SUCKED they had NO lights at all,WOW 2 strobes! And when some guy
came along to 'Put up the lights' the only thing he did was put up some color
wheel(Propped up on the Fog Machines's control,BTW) and NOTHING ELSE,LAME!
WE asked if we could hang some lights,just trying to make it better and be
helpful(BTW We know how to do it),and the guy is like NO.blah,blah,blah
Candyland pretty much bit it also,BIG place,but the PLACE doesn't make the RAVE
I don't care how much Sq. Footage you have, I doesn't matter!! Harmony was
pretty OK,EVEN though the TENT wasn't there i did have a pretty good time
(I have a Tape of it,if you want a copy let me know). They SHOULD have found
out PRIAR to setting the whole thing up if they can have a tent there! Ya see
everything comes down to planning, It seems people don't plan for the worst, And
the worst always seems to happen!! You have to have back ups for EVERYTHING
else its gonna fall apart! No-one plans. No-one really makes the RAVES differentits always the same loud music,lights,lasers,etc No real though goes into
any of them! I really hope that people realize this and try to make them
different from one another. Like put up some decorations or SOMETHING!! Pick
a name and GO with it! really take us there!!! wear costumes something like
that!! I would LOVE that!!! Well i think I have bitched enough...hehhe see ya

.

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From: dom@nyx.cs.du.edu (dom)
Subject: Re: LFO
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 23:51:28 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.161041.28696@javelin.sim.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:
>
>Someone else mailed me about this as well (Bennet?).  I was always under the
>impression that LFO was one person, especially due to his lyrics, and sparse
>crediting on the CDs.  Someone posted a concert review a while back that also
>indicated it was one person running the show.  Does anyone know exactly what
>the roster is?

In the sleeve of Frequencies is a negative photo of LFO... and there are
TWO of them !

Also the credits mention:

All titles written by Bell/Varley, except LFO by Bell/Varley/Williams.

~Dom.
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From: ghond@acca.nmsu.edu (ICE-9)
Subject: Re: Curve: danceable?
Organization: Hah!
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:10:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.003604.20827@bradley.bradley.edu>
illusion@buhub.bradley.edu (Jeremy Riley) writes:

> I have lately been listening to 'dream pop', specifically
> Curve with their latest release 'Doppleganger' (sp. ?, sorry).  It was
> given an average review by Enter. Weekly, but I still love it.  One of its
> elements is a club rhythm track.  As something different from techno
> and house, it still strikes me as danceable.  My question being that
> would Curve be now or in the future be fitting for a rave scene.
> I'm always looking for something new.

I think it's an excellent album.  And very danceable.  However,
you're not likely to hear it at your typical techno-prejudiced rave.
Why this is, I'm not sure.  Do people feel that unless the music
is techno, it's not mind-altering enough?  Surely this effect wears
off after hearing about 50 boring, predictable techno tracks in a row.
Almost makes me want to start a Campaign for Real Rave.  :)

BTW, does anyone know if the only commercial Fait Accompli CD5 is
the one with the extended plus 2 other songs on it?  I'm sure I've
seen a CD5 with 4 or 5 mixes on it, but it may have been a radio
promo.

Anyway, a great band.  A word of caution:  if you see them live,
BRING EARPLUGS.

-- stephen
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From: eda747nsft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: ---> HARDWARE 3 (MELBOURNE) IS ON <---
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:33:26 GMT


Hardware 3 - Show day eve September 23rd.

Full colour "Purelight" laser show.

Middle of school holidays ! (Yeah !!!)

Melbournes best parties with the best DJ's.

Goldenscans, $120,000 worth of laser and 20,000k of Melbournes first
Surround Sound system at parties (I hope the sound people can pull the
8 channels off!)

New venue. 3 rooms.

Right in the middle of the city off a laneway off a lane.

Admission $25. (wait till you see the production!!)

AND WAIT TILL YOU SEE THE HOTTEST FULL COLOUR A4 FLYER (2 SIDED) THAT YOU HAVE
EVER SEEN ! Stay tunedd much, much more to come ...


Richie "Rich" Mc Neill
From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: the KLF in boulder (WHAT?!!!)
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:47:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Sep1.025008.23384@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown) writes:
>stevyn (with a y) e prothero writes:
>>the KLF & Wanda D. play at the marquee this thurs sept 3rd.
>>i mite try and geta  tape recorder in and tape the show...
>>is it recommended? has anyone seen KLF? good shows? or should
>>i just relax and enjoy the show? ok BOULDER COLORADO its goona
>>be phun....
>
>Last I and EVERYBODY else heard (even the people at KLF Communications
>and everybody they work with), Bill and Jimmy had dropped off the face
>of the Earth, leaving the music business.  Now they turn up to do a gig
>in Boulder?  WHAT'S GOING ON?!!!!
>

Roger that...what's up?  They dissapear for months then turn up on a Thursday
night at some club in Boulder?? [actually sounds like something they'd do...
I'm skeptical, tho...]

-H



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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Techno albums out?
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 22:37:38 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car) writes:

> if you consider 808 State techno, then they have 2 full albums you
> should check out. 

Three.  (Everybody forgets _Newbuild_ . . . )

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones)
Subject: The drug is the music! was: The music is the drug!
Organization: Friends of Tank Girl
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:08:32 GMT

In article <guest.78@dhhalden.no> guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST) writes:

>If you have to take drugs to like the music, well, then I'm sorry on your
>behalf. To me, putting on an LFO or Model 500 record is just as ecstatic
>as any unnatural stimulance.

If you have to listen to the music to like the drugs, then my heart
goes out to you. To me, getting on one is just as ecstatic as listening
to any synthetic, mood-altering "music".

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From: rslau@usc.edu (Robert Lau)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Mars 103.1 is dead
Date: 1 Sep 1992 13:53:48 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, USA
Distribution: rec
NNTP-Posting-Host: tarazed.usc.edu

Died last night, 31Aug/1Sep 92 at midnight.  They're now Variety or
some such nonsense, sounds like a mish mash of every radio station on
the dial.  Wonder where Eagle and Freddy will go now?

*sigh*, the only listenable station in L.A., another victim of ratings.

a moment of silence please...

Wonder how other progressive/altnerative stations are doing in other
parts of the country?  Europe?  You would figure that a station like
Mars would do well in L.A....

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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: edd709psft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: The music and the drug are separate things!!!
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:00:08 GMT

In article <guest.78@dhhalden.no>, guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST) writes:
> Excuse me, but what's with this drug debate?
> 
> Isn't the music supposed to be the drug? Or has this become a cliche in 
> the world of E and other psychedelic flashbacks?

Of course many people get off on the music (me included), but when you go to
a rave and 80 % of the people are tripping/e-ing then I suppose this is an
issue, whether the drugs are good or bad. The newsgroup is called
alt.rave, not alt.rave.music or alt.techno so therefore isn't anything to
do with raves applicable to this newsgroup???

> If you have to take drugs to like the music, well, then I'm sorry on your
> behalf. To me, putting on an LFO or Model 500 record is just as ecstatic
> as any unnatural stimulance.

I really don't believe that anyone has to take drugs to like the music. How 
could anyone in the rave scene not like the music if it is really good?
People take drugs because people wanna take drugs. Plus it helps to keep
popping at 7am! The music just happens to enhance the chemical experience!

neXus. 
(aka Jase Watson - edd709psft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au OR
		   edd709p@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au)

"If it's not +8...it's just not FAST enough!"

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: Mixing/DJ'ing
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:00:26 GMT

(important words highlighted for the literally impaired)

In article <BtMIyz.6xp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Thomas C. Fis
cher) writes:
>|>    I play my tapes in my car, walkman, and boombox at work.  So your only
                                                                    ^^^^
>|>    problem that I can see is that you spent all your money on those CDs
>|>    and now you want to dj with them but you can't pitch change. 
                                            ^^^

The point being that he said he couldn't spend huge amounts of money, 
especially after having bought all those CDs, which means pitch-changing CD
players are not an option FOR HIM.

>|>    Oh well,
>|>    lesson learned.  I face that dilemma every time I choose a CD5 over a
>|>    12", which I do a lot more often than I should.  If I decided to start
>|>    dj-ing I would be up a creek...  <not being sarcastic>
             ^^^                                  /|\
>Well, I hate to break the news to you mike, but cd|layers that allow you
>to change pitch have been around and in use for ye|rs now.
>                                                  |
>tom                                               |
                                                   |
And pitch changing CD players are not an option for|ME, either, for exactly
the same reason, hence the disclaimer. ------------'

Miffed,
 Mike
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From: terra@reed.edu (Larry Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Mars 103.1 is dead
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:07:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Sep2.190708.12544
Distribution: rec
Organization: UCLA Biochemistry Dept.

In article <BtyKxq.A2H@beach.csulb.edu> douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette) writes:
>In article <RSLAU.92Sep1223028@tarazed.usc.edu> rslau@usc.edu (Robert Lau) writes:
>>
>>A coworker and I were talking about something like this today.  Not a whole
>>radio station, but maybe a 4 hour show, heck even 1 hour, on a local station
>>during the graveyard slot, 2am to 6am...  sorta like Don's All-Night Truck
>>Driver's show.  True, the listenership will be small, but at least this stuff
>>will still be on the air.  Maybe the Swede himself might want to help.  :)

Sounds great to me!  Why not on whatisit? 89.9 or is it 88.9 that has the 
Master Mix at 12-2 on Saturdays? (oh yeah, it's KPFK, whichever that one is)
College radio stations just aren't powerful enough for the majority of us to
even tune in!  (I go to UCLA and can't get our station even ON campus!)  I
know that AM 870 has a hip-hop show on Saturday nights from 9:30 - 11:30, so
maybe they'd welcome a techno show as well.  That station is pretty damn power-
ful too, because it was the only decent music we could get going to some shitty
rave in the Mojave desert last Saturday (but that's another story).

>MARS-FM already proved that there is a market out there. And
>since Chuck runs a record store, he knows who the audience is (as opposed
>to the idiots that killed MARS in the Marketing dept.) 

This reminds me: I know the total lack of any rational person on the marketing
dept. of MARS has already been discussed, but I just have to mention my fav-
orite MARS inappropriate commercial:

STOVE TOP STUFFING!!!

i thought it was a joke!  who are they advertising to?  You don't even hear
stuffing commercials on KBBT, KISS or any mainstream stations.  In fact, I'm
an avid listener of talk radio (KFI 640) on AM, and even THEY don't play Stove
Top commercials!  Who do they think is listening to MARS? My MOM??? Anyway, 
I thought it was funny.  

Too bad I only got into MARS when it was on its way out.  Guess its back to
hiphop for me, at least there's three weekly hiphop radio shows that I know of.

Terra Goodnight
From: dedos3@wsinfo11.info.win.tue.nl (Wilco Boumans)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Steve Pointdexter remix
Date: 27 Aug 92 12:11:11 GMT
Reply-To: dedos3@info.win.tue.nl
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands


Scheduled to be release somewhere in october is a remix twelve inch
of Steve Pointerdexter's  "work that motherfucker".

It includes two (maybe three) remixes of the formentioned song, and a
Max 404 remix of Chilling with the P.  I only heard the last song, and
I liked it.  (It has a REAL TECHNO style, in the tradition of the old(er)
Detroit techno).

The record is (at least in Europe) released on the DJAX label.


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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett)
Subject: Re: 808 State: Newbuild (was: Techno albums out?)
Organization: Disorganization
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 02:42:14 GMT

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
>mcelwee@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au (Bennett) writes:
>> Lemme get this straight.  Is Newbuild actually an 808 State album? 
>It's an 808 State album.  Sez 808 State on the cover, on the spine, and
>on the label, with nobody else credited except for A Guy Called Gerald
>(the cover's stickered "Acid Tracks featuring AGCG", or something similar -
>I'm at work and the LP's at home).
>[...]
>I think you're confusing _Newbuild_ with the Hit Squad
>Manchester singles -- which I haven't seen, but which seem to be an 808-
>driven project from before _Newbuild._  The first HSM single was on
>Eastern Bloc Records, which mutated into Creed; Eastern Bloc is the 808-
>owned (is it Massey or someone else?) Manchester record shop.

Yup, I was thinking of HSM.  I thought Newbuild was a HSM album, but I guess
not (I've never even seen it, sigh!).
I think Eastern Bloc was part-owned by two 808 members; this may have
changed though (and may never have been true anyway...).

>> And anyway, Quadrastate isn't _that_ short.  Why don't people consider
>> it an album?  (Mini-album?) 
>It clocks in at just under half an hour, so it's hard for me to think of
>it as a full-fledged album.  Mini-LP, maybe.

True.  Nowadays I tend to think of any album less than one hour long as
"a bit short".  CD technology is spoiling us (and I love it).

>They need to put _Newbuild_ and _Quadrastate_ out as a single CD, I think.

That's got my vote.

Will the generally-released US "Timebomb" single be the same as the 4-track
promo?  Let us know.  I'm hoping for a big remix-fest a la "Lift" (though
hopefully the mixes will be better...).  Wonder if there'll be a Graham
Massey mix? :)

-- 
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Shades Of Rhythm
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:37:58 GMT
Organization: Sporadic and incomplete

Could someone with a decent S/O/R collection get in touch with me?  I need
information on as many of their releases as I can get, to add to the 
discography I maintain. 

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"Wild hearts run out of time"
From: mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: break beat
Date: 28 Aug 1992 15:18:32 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <5211@tuegate.tue.nl> remy@blade (Remy Wetzels) writes:
>Well, as mentioned before a breakbeat is a beat that's looped as beat for
>someone's own song. I think it is called "breakbeat" because most of these
>loops were sampled from the breaks of old(er) songs.

if the question was "what is breakbeat techno", the answer is indoubitably
altern8... traditional 110bpm house beats sped up and cut to 145bpm... i
personally do not prefer that type of sound (rather the simple bass-snare-
bass-snare of non-breakbeat techno works fine for me).

yours,m

ps:  smarte's 'sesame's treet' is an example of breakbeat techno gone horribly
awry.
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Moby 'Go' new mixes
Date: 29 Aug 1992 07:32:32 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
Keywords: moby

In article <kylef.715065795@milton> kylef@milton.u.washington.edu (Kyle Farrell) writes:
>most of the mixes are really cool, some are even better than the mix
>Razormaid did a couple months ago.

Razormaid mix?  Bwahahaha!   You just keep waiting for it to "kick in", and
waiting, and waiting....

	Brian


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"This isn't one of those RAVE parties, is it?" - Nat'l Park Service
representative while I tried making "camping" reservations. ;-)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: CDs Are No Subsitute For Vinyl For DJs
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:24:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.114410.23144@orbital.demon.co.uk> steveh@orbital.demon.co.uk (Stephen Hebditch) writes:
>What is a problem is the availability of material. A deejay in London
>who relied purely on CDs would be weeks or months behind the rest of the
>crowd. They'd also cut themselves off from the huge mass of material
>that never finds its way onto CD.
>I don't see the situation changing in the immediate future either.
>Pressing up a coupla hundred white labels is going to be cheaper than
>CDs for some time to come - and there wouldn't be much point in doing
>CDs as few of the DJs who might buy your record would want that format
>anyway.

I see the problem here is that groups produce digital music,
and then press it.

Wouldn't it be nice if we had a machine with enough memory so that it
could load up an entire song off of CD, and enough speed so that the
computer could do the scratching etc., say with a little hand wheel
device.  And beat-macthing could be done automatically (under human
supervision).  

For DJ's who have to be newer than CD's, they could just snag DAT
versions of songs, directly from the groups.  Or perhaps snag them
via ISDN lines.  DJ's could have a deal with groups to have songs
uploaded to their machines as soon as they are done, ready to hit
the rave that night.

Yeah, dream big!

-CyberTom
 Master of the affine wavelet transform

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