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From: eric@gaia.gatech.edu (Eric House)
Subject: Re: the Vader in DARTH VADER
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:04:31 GMT

Michael_Hilgers@k.maus.de (Michael Hilgers) writes:

>In an article Dan Shoham (shoham@ll.mit.edu) writes:

>s>In article <Jan.5.02.08.36.1993.27146@dimacs.rutgers.edu>
>s>magarell@dimacs.rutgers.edu (christopher magarelli) writes:
>>
>>There's another possibility -- Does anybody know if "vader"
>>means "father" in some language?  It sounds like it might.
>>
>s>Does German count?  (Dark Father)
>In German it is written "Vater".

We have discussed this before.  Vader translates directly into "father" in one
of the Scandinavian languages.  I have never found out if "Darth" meant dark
in that language, but I have assumed it did.  I don't remember which language
it is.
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Subject: Re: Luke and Leia confusion
From: kens@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:35:55 -0600
 <C0193w.Iut@news.udel.edu> <29DEC92163204@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu> <16B4B18FA.WCHE@vm.poly.edu>
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <16B4B18FA.WCHE@vm.poly.edu>, WCHE@vm.poly.edu writes:
> In article <29DEC92163204@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu>
> dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper) writes:
>  
>>In article <C0193w.Iut@news.udel.edu>, darkstar@ravel.udel.edu (Jerry Garcia) writes...
>>>Ben might have wanted
>>>to train Luke because he wasn't as well hidden as Leia.  Also, Luke may
>>>have expressed more of an affiliation to the Force at that time.  And we
>>>are missing the argument that Kenobi may have been acting patriachical!
>>
>>Or perhaps it was simpler: Kenobi never MET Leia....
>>
>>--Gallandro
>>
>>    "Take it easy, kid.  It's only a movie."   --Ham Salad, "Hardware Wars"
>  
>  
>    Or perhaps Ben is sexist.  Maybe he feel that women is too weak to
> be a Jedi.   That's why he wants to teach Luke, and not Leia.  (This is
> just a thought, so try not to take it so seriously.  :)
>  
>  
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> "Speed of Darkness: slower or faster than speed of light?"

>  The reason that Ben trained Luke and not Leia is that the Force was 
> stronger in him than in her.  It's not a matter of being male or female,
> and Ben didn't need to meet Leia, he already knew her (he at least knew
> of her).  I ask you, does Leia seem the type that would be a good Jedi?
> I don't think so, she was raised as a princess, not a warrior.  Luke was
> raised on a planet that required him to be a survivor, therefore, he would
> make a good Jedi.  I wouldn't be a Star Wars fan if they would have made
> Leia a Jedi.  "Jump to light speed!!"
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
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Subject: Re: existence of the other six stories
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:49:42 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: mjulian@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu's message of Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:44:01 GMT

>>>>> On Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:44:01 GMT, mjulian@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael R Julian) said:

mjulian> Does anyone know if the first three and the last three
mjulian> stories have ever been published as novels?  If so, were they
mjulian> originally written by Lucas himself?

No.

mjulian> Also, I recently found a book called "The Art of Star Wars"
mjulian> and I'm wondering if there are any other similar books
mjulian> available.

There are "Art of" book for all 3 movies....
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From: jeffy@cray.com (Jeffrey Neau)
Subject: Re: Star Wars Trilogy Oscars.
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 7 Jan 93 08:18:40 CST

In article <1if8leINN7fa@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein) writes:
>
>In a previous article, hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Donald L.C. Blewett) says:
>
>>                                 
>>I was just wondering if anyone knows the answer to this one.
>>
>>On the back of my SW video cassette it says "Winner of 6 academy awards."
>>Does anyone know what the six were and for that matter, what Ocars all three
>>movies won and were nominated for.  Thanks.
>
>I'm pretty sure one of them was for the score.  I'd be the rest were
>technical awards.  I do't think it won Best Director.
>
>----  TJ
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They got one for "wardrode" or "best costumes" or something like that.


Jeff
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From: sche7135@mach1.wlu.ca (Scott Schelter u)
Subject: Re: Played X-Wing
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:01:51 GMT

In article <1isg3fINNhh8@girtab.usc.edu> joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>They also were previewing a new Star Wars CD ROM game for the PC due to be
>released in the Fall of this year. It was called Star Wars: Rebel Assault.
>Guys....this will be great. I played a little of what seemed to be an
>enormous sized game. I think it was more or less a simulator but it had
>some flm footage digitized and was awsome. I played a sequence that was
>a T-16 Skyhopper flying through some kind of canyon (probably Begger's
>Canyon) chasing after some ships.  This will be great.
>
       Well... I guess that this means I'm going to have to cough up
the money before the end of the summer for that CD ROM unit I've been
wanting to add to my system. Actually, given LucasArts track record for
releasing their games on schedule, I guess I won't really have to worry
about it until April '94 8)

      Le Dog
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From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
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Subject: Re: Red/green lightsabers
Keywords: surviving the iron storm, i pledge to do...
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:10:58 GMT
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

darkstar@ravel.udel.edu (Jerry Of The Jungle) writes:

> In article <1993Jan3.184910.24601@midway.uchicago.edu> wag5@midway.uchicago.e
> >Actually, the shift in the color of Vader's saber
> >is probably related to some old experiments in
> >which organisms were trained to be blind to
> >certain factors-such as color. By shifting the
> >color on the sabre betwen red and green the
> >people in the audience, after watching unnoticed
> >for a number of times as most fans did, would
> >eventually be incpable of discerning red from green.
> >Thus, Star Wars fans would not be able to competently
> >react to stop lights resulting in huge numbers of traffic
> >fatalities and accidents. Since large cars, usually
> >American, are better protection for drivers in accidents
> >than small cars, the demand for American big-cars would
> >increase. Thus we learn that Lucas was bribed by a
> >coalition of GM, Ford and Chrysler to try to stop the
> >erosion of the market for the American car by mass-
> >brainwashing techniques.  In that sense, Lucas could
> >be called both a patriot, for his protection of the American
> >industry, and also a pioneer in psycho-engineering. Viva
> >Lucas!
> >			John
> 
> Hey, but then if Lucas was being paid by the big three, then why did he
> ever make Tucker--The Man And His Dream?
> 
> 	--Jerry

Obviously, the Big Three went back on their deal with Lucas.  In his 
anger, he searched through the archives of automotive history until he 
found a story scandalous enough to cause middle America to look with 
disdain upon the automobile industry.  Unfortunately, this didn't work.  
The people, while on their way to the movie theaters, kept running red 
lights, dying well before they could purchase a tub of popcorn, a movie 
ticket, and place their feet on a patented Stick-Um (TM) floor.


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From: marc@cfmu.eurocontrol.be (Marc Philips)
Subject: Re: RPG - "Haste"-question
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 14:14:43 GMT
Organization: Eurocontrol - Central Flow Management Unit

In article <1993Jan4.132144.1744@cfmu.eurocontrol.be> I write:

>In article <1992Dec27.215232.12343@ifi.unizh.ch> knecht@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (knecht roland) writes:
>> The player declares three actions (shots). The first shall be with
>> tripple-haste, the second with double-haste and the last with normal
>> haste. Would that be 6 haste-actions (3+2+1) or 3 (tripple-haste) or just
>> one (one "tripple-haste-action")?

[Rules Companion, page 13] ... Hastes declared in the "Declare Actions"
segment are applied to all actions...

During the "Declare Action" segment, the player declares all his actions and
one haste level which applies to all of them.  In this case, three triple-
haste actions.

>The Rules Companion says something like (I don't have it at hand) "A character
>can always act at lower haste levels than declared by the player".

What it says is :
[Rules Companion, page 14] When actions are given a degree of haste a
character may volontarily degrade the haste of some of his actions. ...

>In the above example, the player should declare 3 actions and three hastes
>(Penality 5D).

If each haste was counted once for each action like "cartoon boy" and Nathaniel
suggested, that would sum up to nine hastes and three actions (penalty 11D).

>When triple-haste actions are resolved, he'll shoot once and say he wishes to
>pospose the remaining actions.

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From: etlsal@etlxd30.ericsson.se (sukhwant atwal xd/gkg GH 4623)
Subject: Re: Yet another error	
Keywords: ERROR
Reply-To: etlsal@etlxd30.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:40:21 GMT

The Film: Return of the Jedi

The Scene: Lando and Han chatting in Rebel Hangar. 
           'She's the fastest ship in the Fleet..`
           'Alright olde buddy she's won't get a scrap`	
            
The Error: Watch Lando's shoulder holster strap, it's starts the
           scene like below, across Lando's chest 	
                       \ \
                        \ \
                         \ \

           half way thru the scene it's like this

                          / /
                         / /
                        / /

           and the incredible tap dancing shoulder strap finishes
           the scene

                        \ \  
                         \ \
                          \ \


 	My small claim to fame, I don't think this error has EVER been
        mentioned before. Heh it's something to do on a cold and dark
        winter evening.

        Mattlock Starfighter [Corellian Pilot]	






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From: roy@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Re: RotJ was disappointing
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 18:40:46 GMT
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Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <1993Jan5.170548.17672@umr.edu> S104374@UMRVMA.umr.edu writes:
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>From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
>Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
>Subject: Re: RotJ was disappointing
>Message-ID: <P2BVwB2w166w@hogbbs.scol.pa.us>
>Date: 4 Jan 93 19:59:24 GMT
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>>No, I think the Christmas special was the most that we'll ever see of
>>Chewbacca's relatives. =)
>
>Hot damn!!!  I knew I saw a special on TV about Chewie and his family
>on their home planet, but for years people have been telling me I'm
>crazy.  Does anyone have a copy of this?
>
>-=Road Warrior=-

It was a Thanksgiving special, and it aired only once.  Since it aired
in 77 or 78, finding video copies are a little tough as few had VCRs
back then.  However, some do have copies, and you can get bootleg
copies almost anywhere bootleg copies are sold (I see them all the
time at the Star Trek cons).

Regards,
Tom Rogers
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:25:03 EST
From: <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: Re: Questions
 <1993Jan12.024609.26634@ll.mit.edu>

 Oh, by the way....

 It's the EXECUTOR, not the Excelsior!!!!!!!!

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From: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: the Vader in DARTH VADER
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:16:22 GMT
Reply-To: L.H.Wood@lut.ac.uk (Lloyd Wood)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.

der Dunkel Vater???????

No, boy, German does not count.
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Date: Wed,  6 Jan 93 17:15:40 MST
From: julie@alaska.et.byu.edu (Julie Gritton)
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Mad magazine article
Reply-To: julie@bones.et.byu.edu

Thanks...but it was already posted a few weeks ago.

"You could use a good kiss!"		JULIE
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From: hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Donald L.C. Blewett)
Subject: Places to get SW collectibles?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:18:03 GMT

I know that this is probably going to be a hard one, but I was wondering if
anyone knew where I could find stores (or someplace else) that sells 
new/used/unopened/whatever condition SW collectibles, mainly the Kenner toys
in any of these places:
1) Northern Ontario- That's where I live
2) Southern Ontario- Toronto, Hamilton, London etc
3) Florida- Orlando, Tampa, Jacksonville, I will be there in May on vacation

Thanks

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From: MJV@brownvm.brown.edu (Marshall Vale)
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Subject: Update - New Topps Cards
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:51:53 EST
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 Well, Diamond lied to us. They said the Star Wars cards would replace
the Batman Cards but they didn't, sigh. But we did get a flyer promoting
the cards for the next Diamond Previews (probably available the last
week of January). This would mean the cards would be out in April.

 There was an interesting post from Walt Simonson, a famous comic
artist for those unfamiliar with the comics field, on the Comics-L
list stating that he had just finished do the 6 special cards which he said
were called "Chase Cards". hmm... He also mentioned that he did a few
of the regular cards. For extra info, Walt did the art for several
issues of the Marvel comics series in the 50-60 range.

 Marshall
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From: ECL2B08@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Susan L. Minobe)
Subject: Re: Thanks for the help with SW oscars
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:09:37 PST

In article <1993Jan7.150017.5904@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca>, on 7 Jan 1993 15:00:17 GMT,
hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Donald L.C. Blewett) writes:
>Thanks for the help with the SW oscars, here is the answer I was sent,
>so I take no responsiblity for any errors .
>
>>From: Michael R Julian <mjulian@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
>
>>hello
>>     In response to your question about what oscars the movies have won, the
>>only one of the three that won anything was ANH.  It won:
>>               best art direction
>>               best set decoration
>>               best costume design
>>               best sound
>>               best film editing
>>               best visual effects
>>               best original score
>>               special achievment award for sound effect creation
>>     It was nominated for:
>>               best picture
>>               best director (Lucas)
>>               best supporting actor (Alec Guinness)
>>               best screenplay (Lucas)
>>I hope this gives you what you want.  No......I didn't recall this stuff off
>>the top of my head :)
>>mike (with a little help from larry)
>Gee, it makes you wonder, what movie could possibly have beat out Star Wars
>for best picture?
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From: bstdenis@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Brian St. Denis)
Subject: Re: Another error?
Organization: Fort Worth Research and Development Center, Motorola, Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:54:44 GMT

In article <1ihunjINN41p@shelley.u.washington.edu> watters@darwin.genetics.washington.edu (Mike Watters) writes:
>In article <HAGERMAN.93Jan7130122@rx7.ece.cmu.edu> hagerman@ece.cmu.edu (John Hagerman) writes:
>>braun@daytona.tunl.duke.edu (Richard Braun) writes:
>>>
>>> As for C3PO's storytelling ability, maybe he was just lying to Luke. He knew
>>> he was a great storyteller but didn't want to waste his time telling some
>>> yokel his life story after a rough day of dodging the empire.
>>
>>I don't buy it.  If that were the reason, then it would never have
>>been brought up in the script.  The script is tight; Lucas would only
>>include something like this for the purpose of character development.
>>And I (still) think it is more in C3PO's character to not be a story
>>teller.  I think the change in RotJ was part of the Ewok sellout (ie,
>>cuteness == bucks).
>>
>>- John
>>--
>>hagerman@ece.cmu.edu
>
>
>I don't think I'd agree with either.  I always thought that the reason C3PO
>said he wasn't very good at telling stories was that he honestly didn't
>BELIEVE he was.  3PO's character is pretty uptight and fairly insecure
>(With the possible exception of bragging about how many languages he knows)
>It's within character to claim he's no good at telling stories, even when
>he really is pretty good.
>
>OTHER POSSIBILITIES:
>
>Reasonable:
>	He really IS crappy, COMPARED to droids that are designed for telling
>stories.  We never see a "story-telling droid" other than 3PO so we really
>can't make the comparison.
>
>Weenie/ cop-out:
>	He got some new programming.  :)
>

        His character developed into a mature, self-confident droid.

>mike


-Brian


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From: belcinski@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: x-wings??????   why?????
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:12:53 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Dec21.233318.1@nickel.laurentian.ca>, s1400070@nickel.laurentian.ca writes:
>      Okay, forgive me if this has already been discussed but --- What the hell
> is the advantage of spreading the wings in an X-wing fighter in deep space?  

  Possibly, it has to do with spreading out active sensors for better
detection/targetting of the enemy.  Maybe the SW sensors rely on parallax.  

> The engines are close to the pivot point and do not have a new position that
> is substantially more efficient than they do when the wings are closed.  
> Perhaps the only advantage is the higher degree of laser spread that can be
> achieved????.

  Maybe that too...

>      Oh8Jyh yeah, in deep space, we would not be able to hear noise as there is
> no air to carry the sound waves.  When you see a passing ship, it would not 
> make that vvvvhhisssshhhhh sound... I guess that would make for a boring 
> battle scene though.

  Sure... go ahead... state the *blazingly* obvious...  The sound could be
Super-heated ion streams accelerated by passing ships that buffet the force
screens of a "listening" ship, though.  I just suspend disbelief since the
physics of space travel in the SW universe isn't terrifically well defined.

> 
>                                    John

Rich
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