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From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Mini-Pump Review 1/5
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:53:41 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek

***Copyright 1992-1993, by Mark Chandler.  All rights reserved.***


MINI-PUMP ROUND-UP

Is smaller better? Well, a couple of years ago there were only a few
mini-pumps to choose from. And now, nearly every pump manufacturer
offers at least one compact pump. According to Paul Thatcher, Blackburn
Design's marketing manager, mini-pumps outsell their full-sized pumps
four-to-one. Why are the mini-pumps so popular? The smaller pumps can
fit virtually any size frame--especially ones with sloping top
tubes--and, they can be removed (and stored) easily to avoid theft.

Not all minis are created equal. While some can handle high pressure,
others offer high volume. A good rule of thumb is to match the diameter
of the pump to the size of your tire. Small-diameter pumps generally
work best with narrow, high-pressure tires, whereas
larger/fatter-bodied pumps should be paired with fatter, low-pressure
tires. One thing to remember: a full sized frame pump can usually fill
a tire in one-half (or fewer) the number of strokes. Nearly all of the
pumps tested can be configured to work with Presta or Schraeder valves,
and most come with some sort of mounting system to attach them to the
frame's main triangle.

I tested each pump with a 700x35C Michelin Hi-Lite Tour clincher tire
and recorded the average number of strokes it took to inflate the tire
to its recommended 85psi pressure.


BARBIERI

Adriano Barbieri could very well be the patron-saint of mini-pumps; he
introduced the first miniature pump in 1983, sold over 300,000 minis in
1990, and recently introduced the first mini-pump with a built-in
gauge. He is also credited with inventing the on-the-bike chain
cleaner. Not bad for a former hairdresser from Bologna, Italy.

The Barbieri has the longest effective length of all the pumps tested
and the results show it; only 150 strokes to inflate the test tire to
its rated pressure. The pump's built-in pressure gauge is both
convenient (calibrated in psi and bar) and accurate: it read within
2-to-3 psi of the Pressographe gauge that I used for the tests. Like
the Vetta and Zefals tested, the Barbieri uses a telescoping body for
greater efficiency. The chuck, like most reversible ones, works
reasonably well on Presta valves, but is difficult to keep engaged with
Schraeder valves. Mounting is handled by two Delrin clips that mount
under a (braze-on mounted) water bottle cage.

--
Mark Chandler              Novell, Inc.         510/975-4522
chandler@wc.novell.com     Walnut Creek, CA     AOL: Crosswords
===============================================================
   The opinions expressed above are mine, not my employer's.
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From: tthiel@cs.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Dura Ace '93 SPD pedals
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:27:12 GMT

I don't know the price of the Dura-Ace SPD pedals but people may be interested
to know that Sidi has produced an adaptor for the Genius II that allows the use
of SPD cleats.  They already can use either Look or Time cleats.  The adaptor
is not some kludge like most of them.  It's a thin magnesium plate that fits
into a slight recess in the sole of the shoe.  Just the thing for people like
me with size 48 feet.  Time shoes don't come that big.  These are great
shoes but I guess they'ed better be for $179.00.  =:0
-Terry
-- 
-Terry
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: karl_best@novell.com (Karl Best)
Subject: Re: In defense of Huffys
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:40:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.183129.25217@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>  
narchamb@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Nicholas D Archambeault) writes:
> Granted, I often dream of a fully suspended 'Dale with all the fixins,
> but until I graduate the Huffy will have to suffice.  Sometimes you
> have to drive an old Volkswagen until you can afford the Porsche.

I'm not sure that a Huffy maps well to a VW. Perhaps a Yugo?

=========================================================================
Karl Best                              My test for a book is that one
Novell Tech Pubs           ...  __o    should finish it each time with a
Provo, Utah  801-429-3428 ..   -\<,    mind to read it again--some day.
karl_best@novell.com      ...(_)/(_).       - T.E. Lawrence
From: stork+@cs.cmu.edu (David Zabowski)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Graber Roof Racks
Date: 4 Jan 93 20:42:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C0CK64.3s5.2
Distribution: usa
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


Folks,

I have been considering getting a roof rack for hauling my (and my
friend's (:->)) bicycles around (especially useful for getting to good
MTB trails).  I want to be able to carry 3 bikes and plan on leaving
the rack on the car basically all of the time. I DO NOT have rain
gutters. I have looked at the Thule and Yakima ones (friends have
them).  I notice in Colorado Cyclist that Graber has one that is
*significantly* cheaper than either the Thule or the Yakima.  So, what
is the scoop?  It looks like I can save roughly US$100 by getting the
Graber instead of the others.  Is this a good deal?  I am especially
interested in hearing from people who actually own one of the Graber
Roof racks.  Email is preferred and a summary is promised if the
responses dictate one.

Stork

-----------------------------------------------
David Zabowski
Research Programmer, School of Computer Science
Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh PA 15213
Phone: (412) 268-5298	email: stork@cs.cmu.edu
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David Zabowski
Research Programmer, School of Computer Science
Carnegie Mellon University, Pittsburgh PA 15213
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.misc
From: richard@pegasus.com (Richard Foulk)
Subject: Re: grocery packs?
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 00:26:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.181237.16448@cbnewse.cb.att.com> pwyc@cbnewse.cb.att.com (peter.w.chen) writes:
>
>Where can I get some packs that can hold grocery bags and be attached to the
>rear racks?  I saw NASHBAR had something called "Townies" that seem to be
>what I want: they are open-topped, and can be folded up when not in use.
>But when I called to order, the item was out of stock with no delivery date,
>meaning it will probably be discontinued.  Any other suggestions?
>==

Since the ready-made stuff is so expensive I've been thinking about
getting a couple of the cloth bags that the grocery stores sell and rig
up a simple attachment to the rack to hang one on either side.  That way
you use normal bags that the store people are used to and they only cost
a couple bucks each.

-- 
Richard Foulk		richard@pegasus.com
From: mleitch@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 16:05:48 EST
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Bike Fit - References
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

I am looking at a semi-custom bike via mailorder (the Bike Friday unit;
I hope to make it a general purpose commuter bike).  Apparently, I give
them the desired bike dimensions and they will do the rest.  I now have
the problem of too many choices...  I am not completely happy with the
fit of my road bike and I do not want to make choices based upon its
dimensions (or my probably poor interpretation of what to adjust).

So, any good references on bike fit for a *custom* bike given that:
(i)  it is a commuter but I far prefer a road bike position.
(ii) it is inevitable that I will do several metric centuries
     per month/year on this bike (my round trip commute is a
     metric century).

On a related note... do any shops in Toronto offer the "fit kit".

Note: email preferred.  Also, Bike Friday is a folding (20" wheel)
      bike that will be allowed onto my commuter train on "easy" days.

mark.
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From: E5EM <E5EM@UNB.CA>
Subject: Look pp96 pedals for sale cheap
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:05:53 GMT

 I have a pair of Look carbo pro pp96 worlds pedals for sale.  They
have been used for approx. 300km and are in new condition. I have
three sets of cleats for them and the pedals are still at their
original tension setting. Weight=400gm, color=white with worlds
rainbow, PRICE= $80 CANADIAN or $65 U.S., I pay shipping!

    E-mail me at e5em@unb.ca or call me at 506-454-3812.

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.misc
From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Subject: Re: In defense of Huffys
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:53:37 GMT

In article <MGHWBWKP@cc.swarthmore.edu> dpeders1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Daniel Pedersen) writes:
>
>Hey it don't matter what you ride, as long as you do and you have fun doing
>it.  Just because some people think that you have to spend more than $1000
>to be a Real Biker (TM) doesn't mean we have to believe them.

While I agree with you in principle you have to admit that Huffy builds
a particularly offensive product to begin with. The very best Huffys
are OK but for the same money you can buy a Diamondback or a Bridgestone
with at least ten times the quality in materials, construction and components.

If you pay more than, say, $750 for a mountainbike (Bridgestone MB-2 on sale)
or $850 for a road bike (Diamondback Master) you are only getting additional
show and virtually no go. I say this as someone with $2600 in my Basso and
another $1000 in a Peugeot PX-10 completely rebuilt with a Campi SR grouppo
on it.

This is not to denigrate cheap bikes. There is a place for them as commuters
and toys. But there are good cheap bikes and bad cheap bikes and Huffy and
Murray seem to build mostly bad cheap bikes.

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: A10377@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael Duke)
Subject: Any Suggestions?
Organization: Motorola
Date: 7 Jan 1993 14:21:04 MST

   I am seeking suggestions about the following:

       1. mini frame pump - presta (to be used for mountain bike only)
       2. floor pump - presta/schraeder
       3. tool kit/all-in-one tool - must fit in seatbag

   I realize reviews of all of these items have appeared in all the
major cycling publications, but I tend to give more credibility to
the recommendations here on the net. I would prefer recommendations
of only those items you are currently using or have used in the past.
______________
From: Pointerm@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu (Richard Pointer)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Wanted: Bicycle Frame
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:39:57 GMT
Organization: Drexel University
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A77350E74D0114E9@n1-20-233-hess-lab.coe.drexel.edu>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 8 Jan 93 15:40:23 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12

Wanted: Bicycle Frame
Size: 50-51 cm

Hi:
I'm looking for a new or used bicycle frame. I trashed my Merckx last
year and I am in desparate need of a frame. I will consider anything, new
or used. If you hear of any great deals on new framesets, let me know. I
will also consider buying a complete bike, if the price is right, but all
I really need is a frame. Since I'm a grad student, I'm not rich so it
has to be reasonable. 

Thanks,
Rich
Richard Pointer
POINTERM@DUVM.OCS.DREXEL.EDU
Department of Mechanical Engineering
Drexel University, Philadelphia, PA 19104
--------------------------------------------------
     "Sometimes being a graduate student is NO FUN!!!"
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.tech
From: shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry)
Subject: Re: Shimano or SunTour?
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:54:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.210445.20779@mprgate.mpr.ca> trent@mpr.ca (Robert Trent) writes:
>
>...

>I don't know too much about various grouppos 
>(especially SunTour) and would appreciate some 
>opinions.

That's unfortunate, but pretty prevalent.  SunTour is good stuff,
and is cross compatible and compatible with previous editions
for lots longer than Shitmano.

>What does SunTour have that is at par with
>Shimano XT or XTR? ...

XC Pro |  also MicroDrive
XC Comp|
XC Ltd


-- 
sam henry <shenry@rice.edu>
Wanna ride?
From: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: BRIDGESTONE MB-3 -- Your comments please
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:36:26 GMT
Reply-To: mackinto@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Mackintosh)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Shouldn't this be a FAQ by now?  Bridgestone, cool; Huffy, suck.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: pcbk1@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (bryan.s.katz)
Subject: Re: Do bike stores mark up or mark down?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 22:12:21 GMT
Summary: test ride

>    Of the two better bike shops in this town, neither will let you test
>    ride it.

Went to one bike shop where the guy would let me ride it "around the
parking lot".  I told him that this was pointless and a dumb way to
sell bikes.  (This was the Peddler in Red Bank NJ.)  Went to two others
(Freehold Bicycles and Marty's), and both let me test ride.  Seems to me
that if they don't let you get some kind of hands-on feel, may as well
go mail-order.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: praetzel@maxwell.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Praetzel)
Subject: Re: Do bike stores mark up or mark down?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:33:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.014550.17101@mercury.unt.edu> jackson@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bruce Jackson) writes:
>In article <v9!3xca@rpi.edu> spinaa@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson) writes:
>>Also, how good an idea is it to mailorder complete bicycles? Are the prices
>>low enough to offset shipping and handling charges?
>
>I'd avoid purchasing a bike this way.  You don't get to test ride it.

Of the two better bike shops in this town, neither will let you test ride it.
I am not going to throw down $3k on a suspended bike unless I can see how it
rides. However, for road bikes I perused the catalogs, sent away the cash and
had parts rolling in within the week.  In one month I had my Klein built for
1/2 of the Canadian price.  Even if the local shops had test rides I would not
bother buying from them with that sort of markup.
  Then again, some of my friends are on the Racer Sportif team and they can 
get Dura Ace STI bikes for $1700 Cdn which is 2/3 to 1/2 of what I could 
import one for.  So if you want a cheap bike, join a team and get the sponsors
product.  Then you can turn around, sell it and get what you have been drooling
over.  All in all I do not think that a test ride is worth much of anything
unless it is the case of something new (like a fully suspended MTB) and in that
case the only test ride that will count is getting off road and bouncing thru
some rock strewn paths.  If you follow the hype and nonsense of bicycling;
how can you judge a road bike unless you get it on a fast desent to see how
it shimmies?

>Most good shops will expertly assemble the bike.  The last 3 shops I
>worked at did all of the first's years labor and maintenance free.
  Thats a good joke.  Why do you think I bought my own tools?  It was not
  worth my time to drop the bike off, wait days, pick it up and then have
  to readjust their mistakes.

>All shops give at least a 30 day checkup which catches a lot of potential
>problems.  
  The only time I would agree with this is if the person is pretty ignorant
  of the mechanics of a bike.  But if they are chances are that they will
  never get on the thing more than once per month.

>ride with the wind...
  Do you have an enchantment that I can use to get it to blow the other way
  at the turn around point?

- Eric 

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From: pamela@keps.kodak.com (Pamela Blalock)
Subject: Re: clipless pedals-RFC
Organization: Kodak Electronic Printing Systems
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:42:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.175916.5476@novell.com> chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler) writes:
>You could also use the Look system.  It's a bit cheaper and the rotation
>is a big plus.  Also, the Look stuff tends to go on sale quite a bit.
>
>About the only disadvantage I see to the Look system is that "walkable"
>shoes are harder to find and more expensive than SPD-compatible shoes.
>Luckily, there are some new walkable, Look-compatible shoes coming out.

Well Bike Nashbar has my favorite walkable look-compatible shoes made
by Avia on sale for 19.99, and YES, they do have some in stock. I
don't know about LARGER sizes, bacause I was ordering spares for me,
but they had plenty in the 6-8.5 range.

These shoes have an additional advantage in the winter of being WARM.
-- 
Pamela Blalock                                    pamela@keps.com
KEPS, 164 Lexington Road                          1 down, 11 to go
Billerica, MA 01821-3984                          how many days til spring?
From: oreagan@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Oreagan)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: In defense of Huffys
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:01:04 GMT
Reply-To: oreagan@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Oreagan)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

Up in Vermont ( around Buuurrrrrlington ) ther is an annual " Huffy
toss".  You must ride the bike some distance ( 50 ft? ) and then get
off and heave the bike into a pile of other huffies. I haven't attended,
but plan to one day. Anyone know the date?
Bill O

 PS  distance and style points are awarded
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: chandler@wc.novell.com (Mark Chandler)
Subject: Re: Any Suggestions?
Organization: Novell, Inc. - Walnut Creek
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:25:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.213123.27112@schbbs.mot.com> A10377@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Michael Duke) writes:
>   I am seeking suggestions about the following:
>
>       1. mini frame pump - presta (to be used for mountain bike only)
>       2. floor pump - presta/schraeder
>       3. tool kit/all-in-one tool - must fit in seatbag
>
>   I realize reviews of all of these items have appeared in all the
>major cycling publications, but I tend to give more credibility to
>the recommendations here on the net. I would prefer recommendations
>of only those items you are currently using or have used in the past.

I wrote a rather lengthy (1200-1500 words) review of 8 mini-pumps for a
glossy bike mag.  Since the piece was not actually published (can
you say, "Funding problems"?) I still own all the copyrights, etc.
If there's interest, I'll post the whole thing.


--
Mark Chandler              Novell, Inc.         510/975-4522
chandler@wc.novell.com     Walnut Creek, CA     AOL: Crosswords
===============================================================
   The opinions expressed above are mine, not my employer's.
From: jwgst2+@pitt.edu (James W Gourgoutis)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: about ACT cyclometers
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:46:08 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Hi!
	Does anyone have any opinions on ACT cyclometers?  Are they any good?
I can get one for less than $20, and I was thinking of getting one for my MTB.
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From: casseres@apple.com (David Casseres)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Trainers: rear, front/rear, comments?
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:11:59 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.

In article <u101.4@norm.scs.uiuc.edu>, u101@norm.scs.uiuc.edu (u101) wrote:
> 
> Sorry if this was discussed recently, I have been away.
> 
> I am looking for a mag trainer and would be interested in anyone's experience
> with either the rear only or front/rear versions; e.g. stability?  Other 
> comments concerning brands Minoura, Nashbar etc are welcome.  Does the 
> expensive Cateye offer a better ride or just fancier electronics.

I recently asked the same question and got only a couple of responses.  A
couple of days ago I finally went and bought a Blackburn folding model,
with a fan for resistance.  This is a rear-wheel-only model, so I can use
it without taking off my front wheel.

This model has a lever-operated mechanism for clamping your rear axle with
a consistent amount of pressure.  It's a great idea except some fool
designed it with the lever in such an orientation that when you open it to
put the bike in, the lever drops of its own weight, closing the mechanism
just far enough so you can't put the axle in.  So you have to hold the
lever open with one hand, leaving you one hand to manipulate the bike with,
while stooped down behind it in the dim light of your garage before
breakfast, feeling like a complete pendejo.  This is truly dumb.

Apart from that I like it a lot.  It is *very* stoutly built and will
certainly last a lot longer than I will, unless someone takes an
oxyacetylene torch to it.  It holds the bike very solidly, though I still
get nervous mounting and dismounting.

Oh, and it was grossly overpriced at $175.  But that's how it is with bike
stuff, it seems.  Either you get something well-built and grossly
overpriced, or you get something very cheesy and flimsy and only somewhat
overpriced -- there's nothing in the middle.

--

David Casseres
Exclaimer: Hey!
Organization: Doctoral student, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 1993 09:05:25 -0500 
From: "Howard M. Bomze" <hb10+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Should I byu a Mongoose?

   I have a Mongoose IBOC Comp and I love it.  It has Shimmano Exage 500
components.  Recently (six months ago or more) Bicycling magazine said
the IBOC comp was one of the best bikes for the money (that was with
Deore components).  I don't know what the difference is between the Comp
and the Sport.  If the frame is not the heavy duty mountain frame (i.e.
its a "city" bike) then I would be warry of taking it on real rough
trail, however, the quality of the bike should be excelent, mine is. 
Hope this helps.

                                    Howard Bomze