HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: drxmann@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dustin R. Christmann)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Softerm (Re: Which is better: pmcomm or te2?)
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:14:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <92Aug29.145122edt.12046@roll.db.toronto.edu> panos@db.toronto.edu (Panos Economopoulos) writes:
>On the other hand, I have yet to find a flaw in the Softerm vt100/vt102
>emulation. Flawless. (Now that I 've figured out how to set my default
>up/download directory, I think I can live with it!)

I use Softerm regularly, and think it's pretty damn good for the price (free
with OS/2)

LIKES:

- Terrific VT emulation
- Very configurable
- Great price

DISLIKES:

- Problems with any 256 color Trident driver (thin blue stripe runs from top to
  bottom of screen along the left side of window)

- No ZModem

I am considering upgrading to the full version from Softronics.  Does anybody
out there have the full version, and if so, do you like it?  How much does it
cost?  What extra features are there?  Does it have the same problem with the
Trident drivers?
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron "Bohr" Faber)
Subject: Font viewer for PM?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:04:55 GMT

Does anybody know a good way to view a font in os/2?   Like
the symbol set.  Something like the keyboard template in win3.1
(GASP!) would be nice.

Any ideas?

Byron Faber
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: brooke@cco.caltech.edu (Brooke Paul Anderson)
Subject: Re: Which is better: pmcomm or te2?
Keywords: pmcomm te2 comms (TE/2 vt100 emulation)
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:08:18 GMT

The problems you report with TE/2's vt100 emulation have been fixed.
I use TE/2 a lot for vt100 work (and v.32bis connections), and it
works great.  Make sure you get the latest version (v1.2) and the
latest CommPak DLL file (on hobbes in pub/downloads as compak101.zoo,
I think).

I remember checking out PMcomm (as well as a bunch of other shareware
comm programs) when I was deciding which to get, but I forget why I
chose TE/2.  It might have been that the demo version of PMcomm doesn't
have a Zmodem I could test, or it might have been that I liked the vt100
in TE/2 better -- I can't remember.

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: jhrv@ellis.uchicago.edu (John M. Kim)
Subject: Re: Uncompress
Keywords: compress uncompress
Reply-To: jhrv@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 07:38:13 GMT

In article <ednstras.714976274@kraken> ednstras@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Michael Strasser) writes:
>jhrv@ellis.uchicago.edu (John M. Kim) writes:
>
>>copy compress.exe uncompress.exe
>>copy compress.exe zcat.exe
>
>Eh?  What about a few batch files:
>
>zcat.cmd:
>---
>@compress -c %1 %2 %3 %4 %5 %6 %7 %8 %9
>---
>
>I think I remember the options correctly.

:-).  That should be compress -dc.

John
From: greenidd@CS.ColoState.EDU (danielle greenidge)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: tape drives
Keywords: Sytron, Sytos Plus
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:54:18 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

Matthew L Florence wrote:

>Someone forwarded to me a posting from this group regarding tape backup soft-
>ware.  However, the phone numbers were not given.  I found the phone number
>for Stirling (800.535.3448), but was unable to find the phone number for
>Sytron for the Sytos Plus for OS/2 2.0.  If anyone knows this number, I'd be
>grateful for a reply.

The telephone number for Sytron is (508) 898-0100.


	--Danielle.

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From: gkm@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (gary.k.mc nees)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: X server for OS/2
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:23:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Aug25.040048.34973@ans.net> db3l@ans.net (David Bolen) writes:
>In article <1992Aug24.190855.2053@math.ucla.edu> abby@luna.math.ucla.edu (Abby Hossein) writes:
>
>>Has anyone been able to locate an X server for OS/2 other than the
>>IBM X server (PMX)?  We are struggling with PMX problems and would
>--
>-- David

I wonder why IBM doesn't put the fixes i.e. CSDs on software.watson.ibm.com
I have heard that a fix is out for both PMX and LaMail. I would certainly
be a lot cheaper and more effiecient for them to make these fixes available
via ftp. No one who doesn't have the current version could use them. What 
number do you call to get the CSDs?
 
In LaMail the move and delete multiple notes (selected) does not work.
Also one cannot print to a printer which is redirected to a file.

Thanks, Gary McNees gkm@corvette.ho.att.com
From: gouvea@zariski.harvard.edu (Fernando Gouvea)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Which is better: pmcomm or te2?
Keywords: pmcomm te2 comms (TE/2 vt100 emulation)
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:08:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Aug29.230816.15222
Organization: Colby College Dept. of Math/CS

In article <n1fn-v=.genie@netcom.com> genie@netcom.com (The Genie) writes:
>In article <92Aug29.145122edt.12046@roll.db.toronto.edu> panos@db.toronto.edu (Panos Economopoulos) writes:
>>Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>>
>>Strange. vt100 emulation is critical for me, too. I login to UNIX systems
>>and "vi" is my text editor. I tried TE/2 but abandonded it very shortly
>>since when running "vi" in a TE/2 session, even hopping from one word
>>to the next (with the vi command 'w') erases the previous word.
>>One gets tired of hitting ctl-L continually.  There were also some other
>>problems with the vt100 emulation that I've noted down somewhere but
>>don't remember off the top of my head.
>>
>
>I've had the same experience with TE/2.  The vt100 terminal emulation
>is not good.  I use the jove text editor and pressing keystrokes like
>CNTRL-F (move the cursor to the right one space) will erase the
>previous character on my screen.  And I too end up pressing
>CNTRL-L many times to get the screen to refresh correctly.  This
>is particularly bad when programming since I find it necessary
>to see what's been typed before.

The current release of TE/2 no longer has this problem. I was one of those
who reported it to Brady Flowers, and he had it fixed within a week. (It's
a matter of vt100 using tabs to position the cursor.) The problem will go
away, even with the old version, if you do 'stty -tabs' before using your
editor.



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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: rjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ronald Jones)
Subject: Re: FAX/PM for $99.00 (IBM OS/2 Soloutions Coupon Book )
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:52:29 GMT

In article <87549@netnews.upenn.edu> zorrilla@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Eric Zorrilla) writes:
>I have the version for Class 1 on advance order.  SoftNet is accepting orders,
>but not charging cards until shipment and has been for the last month or
>so for PMFax w/Class 1 (and I also believe CAS, but don't quote me on that)
>fax support.  The salesperson I have spoken to numerous times about their
>project (Bill) said they will be shipping this month (September).  I suggest
>you call them and get on the list.
>
>

The present version (1.05) already supports CAS. I use it with my Intel
SatisFAXtion 400 daily. I thought the regular version (without CAS) was
called FAXIT and the full version was called PMfax.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Any X11 server and/or client for OS/2?
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:24:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.050228.4245@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Wey Jing HO) writes:
>Is there any OS/2 server and /or client available anywhere?
>Both commercial and PD/Shareware is acceptable.

IBM offers X-Windows server as an optional add-on for its TCP/IP for
OS/2.  Retrieve the file tcpip.txt from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu via anonymous
ftp for further instructions.  Client is in the works, reportedly.

>What will be the difficulty of compiling the X11 source as 
>distributed?

Quite difficult, but you are welcome to give it a go.  :-)

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From: gary@netcom.com (Gary Messenbrink)
Subject: Can Win-3.0 applets be installed from dist w/o using Win-3.0 setup?
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 05:10:03 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: us
Summary: How does one install Windows 3.0 applets in OS/2
Keywords: applets, installation, windows, OS/2

How can the Windows 3.0 applets be installed in OS/2 without running the
Windows 3.0 setup program in a DOS window?

I have looked in the on-line docs, the FAQ and RTFM and have not found
anything.  I did manage to get the ones desired by running setup from
a DOS window and then migrating the applets.  This method causes all the
uncessary stuff for running Windows 3.0 under DOS to get copied also,
so you have to go back and delete the stuff after the install.

Thanks in advance,
Gary

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From: saf@netcom.com (Steve A. Feinstein)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: new! os/2 disk compressio
Date: 30 Aug 92 01:14:05 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Aug27.862.5076@execnet> "robert eidswick" <robert.eidswick@execnet.com> writes:
>August 10, 1992
>
>Proportional Software Corporation today announced the DCF/2
>Disk Compression Facility for IBM's'@ OS/2@ Version 2.0.
[...]
>  Also, please mention my name when you call,  thank you.
>                Robert Eidswick.
>--
>Executive Network Information System  (914) 667-4567
>International ILink Host

=-* Flame ON *-=

What's the deal with this message. This is the 5th time I've seen this
posted and each time there was a different name at the bottom of the
thing.  If this company is giving someo sort of incentive to people to
do their advertising for them I admire their ingenuity, but I'm
starting to be annoyed by this.  

Before the next time.  Thank you... We know about it, we know where to
get it, and please refrain from posting about it again.

*-= Flame OFF =-*

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Windows Fax and Comms Programs in OS/2
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:37:29 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Keywords: Windows FAX Comms

In article <BtvL5r.EI2@animal.gcs.co.nz> lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz (Laurence Chiu) writes:
> I've seen talk about OS/2 not being able to handle DOS fax programs
> because of its inability to support > 1000 interrupts/sec. Do these
> restrictions also apply to Win-OS2? I currently use Procomm/Plus Win
> and Winfax Pro. I would not want to have to buy new products for OS/2.
> Will they work okay under Win-OS2 (it does not have to be seamless) and
> will I be able to run at V32bis speed?
> I would appreciate anybody who has had any experiences with this to
> let me know.
> Thanks
> 
> Laurence Chiu
> lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz

Laurence! Ya shoulda called me at PC Power! Winfax Pro probably won't work
(depends on your modem - and if its the one i think it is.....sorry.)
 
You will have to get Bitfax for OS/2. Or some equivalent. I know of several.
 
Call me 
 
Steve
478 4714
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From: brooke@cco.caltech.edu (Brooke Paul Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: TE/2 and Zmodem
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:43:43 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

I've seen several messages here about people having problems with TE/2
and its implementation of Zmodem.  I used to have troubles, too, but I
got the latest CommPak DLL file (available, I think, on ftp-os2.nmsu.edu
, i.e., hobbes, in the directory pub/downloads as file compk101.zoo).
Now, I have no problems with Zmodem -- not even at 14400 bps with v.42bis
kicked in (in which case I get about 3000 cps on uncompressed files).  I'm very
happy with TE/2.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: harris@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Michael Harris)
Subject: Re: CHANGING MOUSE POINTER
Keywords: mouse pointer
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:37:30 GMT

FAGER@gribb.hsr.no (Fagerland, Svein      94/96) writes:

>Is there a way to change the mouse-pointer in OS/2 ?
>I've noticed that there is an option in the icon editor for pointers.

This option is to create a custom pointer image to put in your program.
There is no way to change the default pointer short of using a resource
editor on your DISPLAY.DLL.
______________________________________________________________________________
     Michael Harris - harris@catt.ncsu.edu or harris@carvm3.vnet.ibm.com
 System Administrator, Computer & Technologies Theme Program, NC State Univ.
(My opinions are my own and do not represent those of NCSU or IBM Corporation)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: tracy@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Phil Tracy)
Subject: spss for os/2 2.0?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:14:05 GMT

Has anyone heard anything (official or otherwise) about a release of
SPSS that runs under os/2 2.0?  We have some fairly happy users of
os/2 1.3 and spss for os/2 1.0, but that version of spss doesn't run
correctly at all under os/2 2.0.

In the meantime, does anyone have any hacks or tricks to make the
current version of spss run properly under 2.0?


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith)
Subject: Re: request repost thread about killer app for OS/2
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 92 18:00:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Frame Maker, Lotus


<stuff about killer app deleted>
>Active 3rd party products would make my boss alot more 
>receptive to OS/2.
>
>
>H. Ray Thornton
>   (Thanks to Ross Perot, first initials are sexy again <g>)
>
>BTW- Is Lotus offering cross-platform sales/upgrades on their
>     Win\OS/2 computer products? Pathway from Win to OS/2?
>     (Hey, I'm new and everyone in this town would rather
>     sell me the product and let me find out for myself) #8-]
>
>
>________________________________________
>ray@hrtpc.cmhnet.org  Columbus, Ohio USA

Lotus do offer cross platform /upgrades. This is from an ad in the IBM 
OS/2 soloutions coupon book.

Upgrade to 1-2-3 for OS/2 or Freelance Graphics for OS/2 for only $129

If you already own 1-2-3 or a competetive speadsheet ( Microsoft Excel
or Quattro Pro), you can upgrade to .....

Or, if you already own ANY (their hilighting) graphics program, upgrade   
to Freelance Graphics for only $129.



Call 1-800-TRADEUP ext 6754  ( once again NO non 800 number given 
                               sorry the rest of the world )

The version of 1-2-3 is the old 1-2-3 G. 

I will call to see what the future upgrade path to the 32 bit versions
will be.

Martin Smith
msmith@netcom.com
From: latesh@genghis.borland.com (Latesh Bhatia)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: Problems with ASPI-Streamer-interface
Summary: GTAK
Keywords: ASPI, Streamer, SCSI
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:22:10 GMT
Followup-To: latesh@borland.com
Organization: Borland International
Originator: latesh@genghis.borland.com

In article <1992Aug24.141915.16425@fzi.de> fzi.de writes:
>Hi there!
>
>I now have obtained an Adaptec 1542B. I wish to install an SCSI streamer
>and use GTAK to backup my HPFS-partition. I got aha154x.add, gtak100.zoo
>and os2aspi.dmd from HOBBES. Then I installed os2aspi.dmd in my config.sys file.
>GTAK readme-file suggested to install the withcoming aspitape.sys. When I tried
>it, I got the message "Cannot attach to .....".
>
>What is to do (any parameters to os2aspi.dmd perhaps?) ?
>Any hints are appreciated.
>Axel (auhl@fzi.de).

I tried snooping around HOBBES (aka ftp-os2.nmsu.edu) for GTAK, but to no
avail!  Could you gimme the exact path on HOBBES where you found 
gtak100.zoo??


Thanx,

Latesh
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.advocacy
From: msmith@netcom.com (Martin P. Smith)
Subject: Re: IS IBM UK STILL IN THE STONE AGE???
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 20:12:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Aug29.125049.3797@hellgate.utah.edu> brian%jaguar.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Brian Sturgill) writes:
>In article <1992Aug29.104619.1323@dlpinc00.rn.com> dlparker@dlpinc00.rn.com (David L. Parker) writes:
>>In article <64786@cup.portal.com> TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>>>
>>>As to waiting for NT, without being insulting, why would you think NT will
>>>have any more or less problems than OS/2? They're cut from the same
>>>cloth, so to speak. And surely, one will be as trouble prone as the
>>>
>>
>>I'm curious - what do you mean, "... cut from the same cloth..."?  As I  
>>understand it, NT is based on/derived from the Mach microkernel, which, 
>>if true would seem to me to represent a complete departure from DOS and
>>OS/2.
>
>It is not based on Mach (thank God!) but you are right it is a complete
>departure from DOS and OS/2 in the sense it's a total, portable rewrite
>that has a modern microkernel-based design.
>
>Mainly what it inherits for OS/2 is a portion of its API, though NT's
>version is considerably cleaner.
>

Could you please give details of where the NT API is considerably 
cleaner or is this another example of rampant use of STURGILL.EXE  where
the mere fact that it is NT makes it cleaner and better although
no evidence or facts are PROVIDED  to support this statement. 

The rampant almost rabid use of STURGILL.EXE is getting tiresome
If you have facts present them if you have opinions make sure you make
it clear that they are just that. 


Martin Smith
msmith@netcom.com    | Republican election platform  == Religious Fascism


>What he was probably referring to is that NT started out to be OS/2 3.0.
>For some odd reason this seems to imply to people that OS/2 2.0 and OS/2
>3.0 were related at the design level.  There's some truth in terms
>of influence on API features, but all accounts I see say that 3.0 was a
>total rewrite.
>
>>-- 
>>Dave Parker
>>Automated Data Management Services, Pleasant Hill, MO 64080-1331
>>(816) 987-5167/5218 voice/fax
>
>
>Brian
>-- 
>C. Brian Sturgill                       *** OS/2 2.0 is for YOU! ***
>University of Utah                  Microsoft needs some competition, but
>Center for Software Science        -I- want to be one of the many using NT.
>brian@cs.utah.edu; CIS: 70363,1373           :-) :-) :-)
From: zorrilla@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Eric Zorrilla)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
Subject: Re: FAX/PM for $99.00 (IBM OS/2 Soloutions Coupon Book )
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:34:52 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <13860@chalmers.se> d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren) writes:

>I just received PMFax (or FAXit, the manual says PMFax and the diskette
>says FAXit). Anyhow, it seems a pretty good package, with a FAX/Printer-
>driver.  On the negative side, is that it only handles Class 2 faxes (and
>that spec isn't even finalized!!!), and I happen to have a Class 1 faxmodem,
>so the program is just vaste of harddisk space...

I have the version for Class 1 on advance order.  SoftNet is accepting orders,
but not charging cards until shipment and has been for the last month or
so for PMFax w/Class 1 (and I also believe CAS, but don't quote me on that)
fax support.  The salesperson I have spoken to numerous times about their
project (Bill) said they will be shipping this month (September).  I suggest
you call them and get on the list.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.apps
From: btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron "Bohr" Faber)
Subject: Re: Locking OS/2 on boot (passwd protection)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:09:19 GMT

mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Meir I Green) writes:

>In article <BtnA98.30@news.cso.uiuc.edu> btf57346@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Byron "Bohr" Faber) writes:
>>Ok.  I like os/2's password protection, but does anybody have an idea
>>how to get it to lock up on boot.  It doesn't do me much good if it
>>will only look up after 3 minutes idle, or if I tell it to.

>Buy a BIOS that has a password option, or buy a security card.  Another
>option is to encrypt your disk, but I don't think that is a good substitute
>for a hardware password, as they can still erase your data too easily.

> * * * * *  =================== Internet address is  mig@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
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>* * * * * * =================== Amateur TCP/IP       N2JPG@uhm.ampr.org


I've seen some hardware cards.  But alot have a "driver" that needs to be run.
Lot of good that does us os/2 people.

And as for the bios, the cold boot only protection isn't nice either.

Oh well.

Byron Faber
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