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From: scupin@spot.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: Ministry sample sources
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:17:50 GMT




         In "Jesus Built My Hotrod", the "Let's hit the fuckin' road"
         sample is from "Blue Velvet", after Martin Sheen has kidnapped
         the main character.

                                       +don
From: john.belew@uttsbbs.uucp (John Belew)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Interview with Blixa
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:30:00 GMT
Reply-To: john.belew@uttsbbs.uucp (John Belew)
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591

BC>>>3.  Did anyone here see EN live before?  If so, how was it?

BC>Yeah, I saw them in Summer 1991 at the Vic in Chicago, with Front Line
BC>Assembly and the Legendary Pink Dots (I posted a review then).  They
BC>were fantastic, and yes, it was really LOUD (second only to the Skinny
BC>Puppy Last Rights concert, but a distant second).  They were very
BC>energetic; it was a terrific show.

I've also seen EN twice, (at the I-Beam and then DV8 back in 1991 in
  SF) 'Twas truely a great show. What really impressed me the most was
  that in these day of relying on DAT's and the like for backing tracks,
  everything was completely live (save the synth line played back
  off Hi-Fi VHS when they performed "Feurio!" off Haus Der Luege). They
  also had a great onstage energy. Probably the best couple of shows
  I've seen save the 1990 Ministry tour.
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From: 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: PHM cover
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:46:31 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1993Jan26.135544.4452@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au>, u6066061@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au writes:
> It looks like a wheel of a BMW or some other car to me...



it loos like trant running away with all your money to me.

The Fiend  


oops i meant trent.
From: rob@spectre.test.rose-hulman.edu (Rob Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: The Lords of Acid
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:55:30 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
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In article <1993Jan20.141604.9788@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>  
SPS@helios.phy.ohiou.edu (Bill Jameson SPS Pres.) writes:
> 
>  ah,hm. the Lord's of Acid have been around for several years.
>  their 'first' (to my meager knowledge) was "I sit on Acid" about 1988.
> there exists, somewhere out in vinyl land, a 12" single with a really  
killer
> version of that somg- far and away better -more interesting- than the CD  
version
>  -- the one on "Lust" or on the "HEY Ho!" cd single. anybody but me  
heard it?
>  (I used to here at in the only dance place at home, and on the radio  
there,
> because the Dj's were the same person. (go figure)
> ..
Yes, I have the Album 'Lust', Very good album indeed... As for 'I Sit On  
Acid', it's also a great song, however there are two versions on this  
album, the original and a remix (duh)  Anyway, the remix is a lso pretty  
good, I don't know if it's similar to the one that you've heard, but this  
one starts off with organ music, and then goes into the 'Darling come  
here...'  It has a very similar part in it to a Front 242 Song, 'Welcome  
to Paradise V1.0" off of their Wax-Trax album 'Front by Front'.  It then  
continues with her (what is her name) screaming, and moaning etc.  Very  
good song.  Anyway just my $.02... later!
 
Rob.
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From: spray@convex.com (Rob Spray)
Subject: Ministry and Country Music
Summary: Al just likes country music
Keywords: Ministry Jourgensen
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:35:46 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

There's been recent discussion in this newsgroup about the
playing of country music at Ministry concerts.  I was talking
to Casey Orr last night.  Casey is the vocalist/bassist for Blohole and
formerly with Rigor Mortis.  He was part of the Ministry entourage
for Lollapolooza II, as a sub for Paul Barker who's wife was due
to give birth at any moment.  Casey did play on the last few
shows of the tour.

Anyway, he said that Al just likes country music.  It is not 
played to stir up the audience.  One of Al's upcoming projects
is a band called Buck Satan and the 666 Shooters.  It's a country
band complete with pedal steel guitar.

I'll be doing an on-air interview with Casey next week to 
coincide with the release of the Blohole CD (that features Ministry's
Mike Scaccia on guitar - buy it!).  Please email me any questions
you have for someone who was (briefly) a member of Ministry.

I'll post a summary.

--Rob Spray  spray@convex.com
--aka Rob Sevrin, KNON Rock DJ, "The Right To Rock" Thursday 1-2am
--aka DJ Stereotype, KNON Cyberpunk DJ, "Cafe Flesh" Thursday 9-11pm
--KNON 89.3FM, "The Voice of The People", Dallas, Texas. 

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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: Re: SPVideos 
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:04:19 GMT

cmoore@lab3.smcm.edu (Christopher Moore) writes:
>>on the topic of skinny puppy videos, they're supposedly releasing them all  
>>sometime this spring....i believe there are videos of smothered hope, far  
>>too frail, testure, dig it, warlock, and killing game, and probably  
>>others....i've only seen dig it and killing game.  it will be difficult to  
>>find this video if warlock is on it, it's banned everywhere.  my friend  
>>saw it in england, and it consists mostly of violent scenes such as  
>>people's throats being slit and blood pouring down drains....tast-y!!

I have a copy of it. 5th generation bootleg for free. It is marked
with a distinct Triple X rating. Pretty gruesome. But it sure fits
the mood of the song.

and BTW its Worlock not Warlock

Jester
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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:37:32 CST
From: Bones, <U38956@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Skinny Puppy limited edition metal box
Distribution: world,local
 <1993Jan26.122211.4289@arizona.edu>

Well the box I had was just silver with black etching gaphics.
Whn we called nettwerk they said there was only 1000 of these worldwide,
so I dunno.

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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:53:06 -0500 
From: Kenny Eng <ke0w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: rest of pigface tour
	<1k4m4dINN9l7@bigboote.WPI.EDU>

these are dates and venues for the rest of the pigface tour

1.27 quebec- cafe etudiant
1.28 montreal- la brique
1.29 boston - man ray
1.30 ashbury park- fastlane
1.31 rochester - horizontal boogie bar
2.01 pittsburgh- graffiti
2.02 washington dc - 9:30 club
2.03 baltimore-steeltown
2.04 charlotte - 1313 club
2.05 atlanta - masquerade
2.06 tampa - ritz
2.07 TBA
2.08 gainesville - florida theatre
2.09 deerfield bch - ambassador
2.10 miami bch - washington square
2.11 orlando - visage
2.12 melbourne - asylum
2.13 jacksonville - milk bar
2.14 moblie - vincent van gogo
2.15 new orleans - new orleans theatre
2.16 nashville - abyss
2.17 memphis - antenna
2.18 kansas city - shadow
2.19 TBA
2.20 chicago - metro
From: flesh@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Dave Kendall.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 23:08:09 PST
Reply-To: flesh@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester) writes:

> aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
> > I don't want to see this stuff on 120 Minutes. Anything Dave Kindall gets
> >his grubby mits on is tainted in my book. Actually just anything that MTV
> >would play. only decent thing on MTV is Cindy... ;-) Seriously. It really
> >spoils it for me... Next thing it'll be on "College Charts" *retch*
> 
> According to Entertainment weekly, Dave Kendall has been sacked
> by MTV. Which is why 120 minutes has had guest hosts the last 8 weeks.
> 

I wonder if it had anything to do with him showing up for work, drunk 
every day?


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From: edklein@well.sf.ca.us (Ed Klein)
Subject: Re: Interview with Blixa Bargeld [1/2]
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:19:03 GMT


Just curious:  after reading the interview transcript, do you get the
impression that those two interviewers are a couple of idiots?  They seemed
very unprepared for the whole thing, and it felt like all they really wanted
to do was "hang out" with Blixa and make smalltalk with him, instead of
finding out interesting things about Blixa and his band.  Blixa seemed
pretty bored himself.  Is that the way it really sounded, and who are these
people anyway?

--------
Ed Klein
eklein%slate@mcimail.com
From: john.belew@uttsbbs.uucp (John Belew) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: chris & cosey
Date: 23 Jan 93 14:24:00 GMT
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Reply-To: john.belew@uttsbbs.uucp (John Belew) 

JP>In article <blakesle.727650757@helium> blakesle@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (
JP>les D Blakeslee) writes:
JP>>What videos has Spuppy done? I've only managed to see one in my 3 or 4 year
JP>>of fandom...that was a video of "Dig It"

Other Skinny Puppy videos that come to mind...

-- Chainsaw (two versions)
-- Warlock
-- Testure
-- Spasmolytic
-- and Ain't it Dead Yet? (concert video filmed in Toronto)
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From: 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: re: blixa bargeld interview
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:02:01 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

Ok, the idiot who did the Blixa interview, in his infinite wisdom has decided 
to make the interview two parts.  The second part wont be until next friday.
Talk about stretching it...  Anyway I will type the first part up later and 
send it here, since it snt that long.  Its pretty good, he talks about albums, 
tours, maybe getting sued by michael jackson, and some other stuff.  

The Fiend  

Oh yeah, i heard a few songs off the new album.. Headcleaner is great.  The 
other two must have been the first two tracks on the tape whoever reviewed it.  
They were not the greatest thing ive heard in awhile...
From: rfischer@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Russell Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry samples Nine Inch Nails !
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:50:52 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

jlitchfi@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Jon Litchfield) writes:
>>
>>Hmm...is this single available easily, or is it an import or what.  I haven't
>>seen any Ministry singles anywhere, and I would like to buy some :)
>>
>>					the man

>Well, I found it in the musical wasteland of Kitchener-Waterloo, Ontario...so
>it can't be that hard to find. I think its a German import, but it was still
>pretty cheap, 10 bucks or so (that's Canadian $). Al & co. did a much better
>job on this single than "N.W.O.". The extended version of "Just One Fix" is
>actually significantly different than the album version. "Quick Fix" I like
>a lot. Besided the NIN sampling, there's a bunch of samples of dance music
>that I don't recognize (gladly).

i saw the disc (3-song cd) at a chain store yesterday, priced at about
6 bucks, so it should be available most everywhere. the store was
newbury comics, which is better than most for that sort of thing, so
some other chains may not have it. it was not an import, btw, so there
may be two versions.

russ fischer
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ministry sample sources
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:01:23 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>>         In "Jesus Built My Hotrod", the "Let's hit the fuckin' road"
>>         sample is from "Blue Velvet", after Martin Sheen has kidnapped
>>         the main character.
>
>1) Yes, thank you for repeating the info for the 100th time.
>2) Dennis Hopper.
>
>Followups to alt.flame.

Here here.

I think it's about time this stuff gets FAQed.  I'm sick of seeing it.

If someone is compiling a definite list of these samples, I'll contribute.
I've found some 'Mind' samples in obscure movies that I'll bet no one here has
ever seen.

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From: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Subject: Re: Ministry's "Hisbulla"?
Originator: ben@ipoint
Reply-To: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Sears of Bavaria
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:07:08 GMT

fluet@ee.ualberta.ca (Kevin Blaine Fluet) writes:

>I remember a few years ago (shortly after the release of TLORAH) hearing a
>song on the radio called "Hisbulla" (or however one spells it), and the DJ
>(Brent Bambry--Brave New Waves) said the song was by Ministry.  I have
>never seen or heard of the song since.  Anyone know anything about this
>very cool song?

What's to know?  "Hizbollah" is track #6 on TLORAH.  It's in 6/4 time.
It has a reversed churchbell sample at the beginning.  "Hizbollah" is
the name of a Lebanese terrorist group, if I remember correctly.

--
Ben Cox
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From: 93mam@williams.edu (Mark A Mayall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: PHM cover
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:41:29 GMT
Organization: Williams College, Williamstown, MA
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PHM cover seems like the Statue of Liberty to me. It would kind of
make twisted sense, given the title of the album and the apparent
irony in the poem at the Statue's base which makes like the U.S.A. is
the haven for all oppressed peoples, when in fact anyone who knows
shit about how INS treats Mexicans and Haitians, etc., knows this is a
terrible lie.
Well, enuf of my ramblings.
From: john.belew@uttsbbs.uucp (John Belew)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN PHM cover
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:49:00 GMT
Reply-To: john.belew@uttsbbs.uucp (John Belew)
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591

<S>    A better question for you netters: what the heck is on the cover of
<S>Ministry's album The Land of Rape and Honey? I've been meaning to ask this
<S>for some time...

It's a picture of a body lying in a trench...

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From: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: negativland & re: Make Sampling . . .
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:35:31 GMT
Reply-To: gtaylor@vme.heurikon.com (Gregory Taylor)
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI

uelmenm@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>This is embarassing - did I really read someone referring to rap as 
>"(c)rap" and insisting that hip-hop is "NOT MUSIC"?

You poor man - I'll be you don't read rec.music.misc much. Along with
the periodic appearance of young Ayn Rand fans claiming that Rush is
*provable* as the objectively best group in the universe, the occasional
screed against (C)rap music is a semiregular feature. I usually link
it with the arrival of new squads of undergrads, so it'll be about that
time now....

>do some people have a hard time accepting the 
>fact that most black music is consistently more technologically advanced 
>than most white music?

Personally? No, but I expect you'd be expected to be a trifle more
explicit in terms of pitching high-caliber verbiage like "consistently
more technologically advanced." And, as I'd certainly suggest to any
whiteboy bonehead busy slobbering about rap artists doing nothing but
"stealing" music from others, aren't we seeing a pretty consistent move
among young black artists back *toward* live instrumentation (alongside
the tendency to move farther afield in search of sampling material) in
their work? I'd say that the technologically more advanced stuff is
*way* farther out on the margins these days....

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From: sluter@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Steve 'Goth man' Sluter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Godflesh discography?
Date: 27 Jan 93 00:48:13 GMT
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In article <rfischer.728071549@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> rfischer@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Russell Fischer) writes:
>b92fdu@tdb.uu.se (Fredrik Duprez) writes:
>
>>I recently laid my hands on Godflesh's album 'pure' at the annual sale.
>>I haven't heard anything else by them , so I wonder what more records they've made and what they are like.
>
>>I thought pure was excellent, so any stuff in that vein will also do! :-)
>
>
>here is most everything....
>
>streetcleaner
>slavestate
>pure
>cold world
>
> all are, i believe, on earache records.
>
>there is also at least one other release, and possibly two. i have
>seen, but not heard, a cassette which i was told was a cassette-only
>release. i have also seen one other cd which seems to be self-titled.
>this disc may be the same as the supposed cassette-only, but then, it
>may not be. again, i have not heard either one. 
>btw, there is a video for 'mothra' which is mildly interesting.
>i only have streetcleaner, slavestate and pure. i enjoy slavestate the
>most out of the three. 
>
>russ fischer


Ive seen a "dont bring me flowers" cd single ...
i only saw it for a second before some kid snatched it up and bought it 
(this was at a cd sale at my school ... and i know the kid, but i never
bothered to ask him about what was on it or iff it was any good)
ive also seen a full length cd , with some sort of number title , bit it
got bought before i went back to the store with some money ...

oh well ...

steve
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From: loki@goat.geo.arizona.edu (Quaeler)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: spasmolytic 5song?
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:32:35 GMT
Distribution: world,local

In article <18165@umd5.umd.edu>  writes:
> in the Nettwerk mail order catalog there is a spasmolytic 5-song ep  
> offered for $8.50....is this just a typo meaning the common spasmolytic  
> 4-track cd single?  someone told me there is a cassette version of  
> spasmolytic with the 4 cd tracks and a live version of "choralone"....true  
> or false?

You're right about the cassette; I don't know if there's a non-US version of
the CD-single with 5 tracks, but its worth a call to Nettwerk...

loki
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:54:17 -0500 
From: Kenny Eng <ke0w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: About FLA and Robocop
	<MfNMvam00WBL84bUhg@andrew.cmu.edu>

On 22-Jan-93 in About FLA and Robocop        
user Kjetil Valstadsve@solan. writes:
>people"). There is also what I suspect of being a Malcom X quote on The Blade:
>"Take them out, motherfucker, it's a ----", 

>I rather doubt it's Malcolm, as the sample is really:  "Stick 'em up,
>motherfucker, this is a hold-up!"

i believe this sample is from eric b. and rakim, the rappers.
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From: steam@selway.umt.edu (raw seize black gust)
Subject: Killing Joke
Keywords: Killing Joke Rage
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:30:51 GMT

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