HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Shafarevich
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:16:51 GMT
Reply-To: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet
Organization: Boston University

OK, now when we have Shafarevich's own words ,
and not just gossip 9-:[

>Subject: Shafarevich's letter


 At the
>same time there is a detailed argument showing that these
>tendencies do not include the entire Jewish nation.  In
          ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 
>particular there are citations of authors of Jewish ancestry who
>also criticize these tendencies.             ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

This reminds  me about anti-sionistskii komitet,
which also consisted people of "jewish ancestry".


 Thus my work can be considered
>anti-Semitism in the same way that criticism of Russian communism
>can be considered anti-Russian. 

Maybe here we see unconscious references, how from being an 
anti-communist he became an anti-Semite..


 I have never permitted myself to
>use such terminology about an entire nation or country as "evil
>empire."
Reagan was referencing to an "empire", not a nation,
it looks like Shafarevitch himself consideres anti-communism,
as anti-Russian. 


You hold me responsible for the makeup of employes
>of the Mathematics Institute of the Academy of Sciences, where I
>am director of the division of algebra.  This is quite comical,
>because for many years I was barely tolerated in this institute
>and from my department employes were only fired and no one added.

Sounds reasonable, but what is his position now? 
Was he a director all the time? sorry, I already forgot such things...

If yes, were all "barely tolerated" people in such positions?

>	Finally, you raise the question of my membership in the
>National Academy.  In the worst years in our country, my
>membership in the USSR Academy of Sciences was never placed in
						~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>question, regardless of my book, published in the West, which
~~~~~~~~~
>contains a radical criticism of socialism and communism. 

So, USSR academy has higher standards? towards dissidents?

Now, for the first time, I begin thinking if he really 
was a dissident, or a KGB agent....

> No
>question was raised about the membership of Sakharov even when he
>was in exile.  
We all know a contradicting story ...

>	Sincerely yours,
>	I. R. Shafarevich
>Moscow, August 4, 1992.

My Thanks to Dr. Hammer for this revealing translation.

Simon Streltsov,
Boston University
simon1@bass.bu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: haviland@torino.med.uvm.edu (Tom Haviland)
Subject: Re: Createive Geography
Organization: Wicked Decent Productions
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:14:54 GMT

In article <9208192247.AA02039@feds46.Prime.COM> mmarkish@FEDS46.PRIME.COM (Mark Markish x2799) writes:

>An example of New Age Geography:

>> Yaroslavl, which is associated as a sister city with my home in
>> Burlington, Vermont. Yaroslavl is, I believe, in the state
>> (province? principality?) of Karelia, and is not too far from Moscow.

>Does it have anything to do with the old-time headline from the future
>_No_New_Troubles_on_the_Finno-Chinese_Border_ ?

>Does it have anything to do with a Socialist congressman from Vermont?

Nope.  It might have something to do with the stupid local newspaper
screwing up.  Should have known to check first...

Of course, createive (sic) spelling is just as bad...

Tom
From: astro@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Poluekt Shpanets-Shpanion (ne-Shiller))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Stenka Razin
Date: 29 Aug 92 22:50:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: mintaka.1992Aug29.225026.28941
Organization: MIT

In article <9208282205.AA11687@feds66.Prime.COM> "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu> writes:
>>> <what is strezhen'?>
>
>>Fairway, midstream.
>
>
>`Eto-to ya znayu, a vot pochemu "strezhen'"
>(chto za koren', chto za suffiks?) nikak ne
>mogu soobrazit'. A ved' kogda-to znal.


Mozhet byt' protomychto idet paral'el'no beregu, i 'srezaet' tekh kto stremitsya peresech'?  Just a guess.
From: oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky)
Subject: Re: Koenigsberg/Kaliningrad
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 20:25:39 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.11 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

> In article <1992Sep4.081930.26242@nntp.hut.fi> f33012l@puukko.hut.fi
(Janne Kivel{) writes to Vadim Antonov:
> Your claim that Russians are the least nationalistic people in Europe
> makes me think that you are a true 'homo sovieticus'.

Just for the record, Vadim Antonov actively participated in resisting
the last year coup by keeping electronic links up with the rest
of the world, and letting the resistance to communicate with each
other and the West.
It was Business Week or Time Magazine (I forget which) which reported
on this last September.
As a side note, those who use insults as a means of argument are those
whose arguments are weakest.

Oleg
From: avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: E-mail help needed
Date: 4 Sep 1992 14:50:30 -0400
Organization: Berkeley Software Design
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In article <Bu1y7C.472@wpi.WPI.EDU> qasama@lektroid.WPI.EDU (John Grossi) writes:
>In article <95295@bu.edu> shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich) writes:
>>Does anybody have any idea how to send mail to a person at "logen.msk.su"? My
>>mail bounced back.
>
>As far as I know the .su suffix has now been replaced by ones for the seperate
>republics. I included them as well as a few others (It may look like the 
>complete list but is not) because I figure they may help someone.
>^L
>
>Armenia      	-AM Azerbaijan   	-AZ Belarus      	-BY
>Georgia      	-GE Kazakhstan   	-KZ Kyrgyzstan   	-KG
>Moldova      	-MD Russia       	-RU Tajikistan   	-TJ
>Turkmenistan 	-TM Ukraine      	-UA Uzbekistan   	-UZ
>Estonia      	-EE Latvia       	-LV Lithuania    	-LT

The only officially approved Internet top-level domains for
ex-SU countries are

	.SU	- still serves Russia and other countries except for:
	.EE	- Estonia
	.LV	- Latvia
	.LT	- Lithuania

Those countries were the first to acquire UN recognition and tharefore
they were the first to get ISO country codes the domain names based on.
The addition of a new top-level domain takes quite a time (basically
it requires changing sendmail configuration on EVERY machine in the
Internet as a part of routine) and can take over a year.

Currently the new top-level domain .RU is approved for Russia,
others are in progress (it involves matters like establishing
name servers and authority approval). The .SU is still (and will be
for quite a time) a valid domain name for ex-SU countries for
purely technical reasons (no e-mail conspiracy to revive SU :-).

--vadim
From: v086jxa4@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (EVAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Anyone live in Russia?
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:03:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello,

My name is Evan, and I attend the University of Buffalo in New York.  I am a 
Communication major, and enrolled in a class called Interculture Communication.
It is a very intresting class!

I am looking for someone that lives in Russia that is willing to spend some time
talking with me.  I am planning on asking questions about your culture for a 
class project.  I have not come up with the questions as of yet.

Anyone that lives in Russia and is intrested please e-mail me.  Oh there is one
thing I do not speak any Russian, keep that in mind.
Any response will be greatly appreciated.


                        Thank you,
                           Evan Avidon
From: shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: E-mail help needed
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:27:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: bu.95295
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

Does anybody have any idea how to send mail to a person at "logen.msk.su"? My
mail bounced back.

Any help will be appreciated.

//////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
// Ryan: What is it to you, demon?       //// Sergei Shimkevich             //
// Lune: It is Sir, Demon to you, worm!  //// shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu        //
// -Phantasy Star III                    ////                               //
From: dleschin@FEDS66.PRIME.COM (Dmitri Leschiner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re:  The Baltic reviews
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:00:35 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

>Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:13:44 GMT
>From: Erland Sommarskog <sommar@ENEA.SE>

>Konstantin Undrov - Levyi bereg Dona - +1 - Russia - 1992
>(The first word of the title is most certainly mistranscribed.) This
>sounds very Russian.

First word is most probably OK; 'Levyj bereg Dona' means
'Left bank of Don' in Russian.

>on the title track, "Rechka Timernichka" and "V Nakhichevani", but
>the album doesn't really manage to keep me interested throughout.
>
>I must say that "V Nakhichevani" puzzles me. How come a Russian band
>makes a song about this Azeri enclave in 1992? And why does the singer
>sing "Nakichevani", that is "k" instead of "kh"? Hm, the some of
>the names of the people in the band doesn't look very typical Russian:
>Velichko, Noshko, Sukhover, Fedoseev. Then again, I found this in
>Riga, so anything but Russian seems illogical.


I have to admit, I never(?) heard of that band before, but I think,
that band may come from Rostov-on-Don, a very big Russian city
on _right_ bank of famous river Don, near the Asov Sea.
(Or they just sing Rostov songs? That's quite possible,
since Rostov is very famous for his history of being place
of criminal band activities and folklore songs of it.)

One of the most well-know historical suburbs of Rostov-on-Don
(now it is actually within city limits) is called Nakhichevan'.
There was a large Armenian colony in Rostov (don't know of now).
Probably there is direct relation to the name of old Armenian city
of Nakhichevan, the current capital of well-know Azeri enclave,
but I don't know it for sure. Rostov has a large amount of population
with Ukrainian ancestry (it is fairly close to current Ukrainian
border), names of Velichko and Noshko definitely came from it.
Name of Sukhover is probably Jewish, and Fedoseev is actually
typical Russian.

"K" instead of "kh" in "Nakichevan'" might be dialectal feature,
though I think I heard "Nakhichevan'" while being in Rostov.
More probably, it is some jargonic attribute, or stylistic one.

Is 'Timernichka river' in Rostov, too? I don't recall exact name.

Dmitry
From: ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Koenigsberg/Kaliningrad
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:06:14 GMT
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland


>
>No, better welcome to Siberia ! I bet Siberia is better
>suited to resettle Finns than poluted Karelia. So
>if Jarmo or other Finns decide to go there I could
>give some directions.
>Sincerely,
>Serega

HI
In article <1992Sep2.144224.6492@physics.ucla.edu> viznyuk@physics.ucla.edu (Sergei Viznyuk) writes:
>In article <9209020012.AA03952@feds66.Prime.COM> "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu> writes:
>>
>>No, it doesn't have to be forever. The question is not the land,
>>the question is people who live on the land. If finns come back,
>>buy houses and settle there, it's perfectly fine. If they'll
>>eventually become a majority there, and will peacefully decide
>>to join with rest of Finland, it's perfectly fine too. So, Jarmo,
>>don't wait, go ahead! Come and settle! Welcome to Karelia!

In article <1992Sep2.144224.6492@physics.ucla.edu> viznyuk@physics.ucla.edu (Sergei Viznyuk) writes:
>In article <9209020012.AA03952@feds66.Prime.COM> "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu> writes:
>>
>>No, it doesn't have to be forever. The question is not the land,
>>the question is people who live on the land. If finns come back,
>>buy houses and settle there, it's perfectly fine. If they'll
>>eventually become a majority there, and will peacefully decide
>>to join with rest of Finland, it's perfectly fine too. So, Jarmo,
>>don't wait, go ahead! Come and settle! Welcome to Karelia!

Dear Serega,
Which places you would recommend? Just some time ago there was 
recovered along Finnish TV around Omsk a finnish community,
they have been holidaying over there since 19th century when
The Tsarist police expelled those people there. 
I would prefer a nice calm place with no mosquitoes, on the
sunset side of a lake.
Good connections from here would be vital.
Sincerely,
Jarmo
From: viznyuk@physics.ucla.edu (Sergei Viznyuk)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Koenigsberg/Kaliningrad
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:42:24 GMT
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics

In article <9209020012.AA03952@feds66.Prime.COM> "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu> writes:
>
>No, it doesn't have to be forever. The question is not the land,
>the question is people who live on the land. If finns come back,
>buy houses and settle there, it's perfectly fine. If they'll
>eventually become a majority there, and will peacefully decide
>to join with rest of Finland, it's perfectly fine too. So, Jarmo,
>don't wait, go ahead! Come and settle! Welcome to Karelia!

No, better welcome to Siberia ! I bet Siberia is better
suited to resettle Finns than poluted Karelia. So
if Jarmo or other Finns decide to go there I could
give some directions.
Sincerely,
Serega
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: lebedev@sovok.cntc.dubna.su (E.Lebedev)
Subject: Mr. Fedyunkin's interview - cont 2.
Keywords: gloria mundi sovok mutlu borodin transit
Reply-To: lebedev@sovok.cntc.dubna.su
Organization: Sovok International
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 05:28:50 +0300

           S O V O K   I N T E R N A T I O N A L
            I n f o r m a t i o n   A g e n c y
                 editor-in-chief E.Lebedev
------------------------------------------------------------
    Mr. E.D.Fedyunkin's interview (continuation 2):

     E.L.: Mr.  Mikhail Verbitsky and mr.  Dmitry  Leschiner
fell under   your  influence  and  wrote  "modernist"  poems
"CTPAHA XACAHA" and "CPAH XEPEC".  Do you know you have fol-
lowers and imitators?
     E.F.: Don't know.  Show, please. (Reads. - E.L.) Uff!..
Grandiose DEPbMO!!!  They can't combine words! Fool unabili-
ty. I begin understand that I'm genius!  Let them  be  green
with envy!..  Oh!  They uses my name,  but remarks that "all
personages are completely  fictious".  Karaul!  Mutlu  tvoyu
mat'! (Untranslatable russian swearing. - E.L.)
     E.L.: Personages or characters?
     E.F.: I  think  every  of  these  two  leds is networks
character, letter in other words.
     E.L.: May you compare two poems?
     E.F.: La nuit tout les chats sont gris! (Untranslatable
russian swearing. - E.L.)
     E.L.: Mr Leschiner writes in  poem:  <<Kill  Turks  and
Kurds wherever  you  find  them and in whatever circumstaces
you find them.  If you find them in your  mind,  break  your
head with  the  granite  stone  of  high quality.  All other
thoughts also should be  killed  everywhereas  they  form  a
danger to the Russian occupation.>> Your comments?
     E.F.: Scusi! (Untranslatable turkish damnation. - E.L.)
No comments.
     E.L.: Well.  I read yesterday in French  newspaper  the
brilliant article   on  national  problems,  signed  by  mr.
Phedyugnkine. Is it your article?
     E.F.: Yes. I jast returned from a month in Paris.
     E.L.: Last issue  of  "Insight"  published  before  you
became Dubna senator. Why?
     E.F.: I have now limited access to computer.  Financial
problems increases. Free time problems increases too...
     E.L.: Last week the number of networks articles on your
person decreases ... too!
     E.F.: SIC TRANSIT GLORIA MUNDI!

                   P E R S O N A L I A :

     Eugeni  Fedyunkin           fed@sovet.cntc.dubna.su
     Galina  Kofman              galina@watson.ibm.com
     Sergei  Borodin             sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu
     Hasan   Mutlu               han@anadolu.michigan.com
     Dmitri  Leschiner           dleschin@feds66.prime.com
     Mikhail Verbitsky           verbit@widder.harvard.edu

16 aug 92 --------------------------------------------------
                                lebedev@sovok.cntc.dubna.su


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: kardanev@hanoi.cern.ch (A. Kardanev)
Subject: Re: Cyrillic via net
Organization: CERN, European Research Center for Particle Physics
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:51:16 GMT


>>>>> On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:18:28 GMT, pmaggs@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter
Peter> B. Maggs) said: watersjc@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeffrey C
Peter> Waters) writes:


Peter>>I'm new to this thing.... but can you send cyrillic characters to  
Peter>>Russia?  Yes.  Its best if you and your Russian pen-pal have
Peter> compatible Russian word processors -- both have LEXICON; both
Peter> have Russian Word Perfect, etc.  Then, because the American
Peter> network can't handle 8 bit codes, the sender must uuencode the
Peter> message and the recipient must uudecode it.  Another
Peter> alternative is to use a wierd looking transliteration called
Peter> "KOI-7" which is a wierd looking 7 bit transliteration for
Peter> Russian.  But then you can't mix Russian and Latin letters.
Peter> peter maggs pmaggs@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
No, KOI7 coding was made to see russian and latin letters
simultaniosly. But you can not write small letters (both russian and
latin). In it all small latin letters (a, r, t etc looks as big
russian A, P, T etc.) There was posted some times ago KOI7 font for
X-windows. So you can look on it... 

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From: brekshyn@shearson.com (Bohdan Rekshynskyj)
Subject: Re: Currency exchange in Moscow
Reply-To: brekshyn@shearson.com
Organization: Ordinatio
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:47:10 GMT


In article 185smqINNntl@agate.berkeley.edu, muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.141543.22511@shearson.com> brekshyn@shearson.com writes:
>>to change currency there?  I don't want the "official" rate for American dollars,
>>but rather the "true" rate.  Also, what things should one watch out for, i.e.
>>dangerous dealers, unscrupulous (sic) people, et cetera?  Please feel free to
>
>Are these rates different? As far as I know they are not much different,
>and it is better to use official way. Am I wrong? If I am correct me please,
>it is important for me, too.
>
>Of course if you mean really "true" rate, it will be about 30 rubles/dollar or

Yury, the ruble was devalued a while ago.  Last week it plunged from around
160 to 205.  I think it's around 215 rubles per 1 dollar now.

>so.
>
>Yury

					Regards,

					Bohdan (not Bogdan)



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Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:7081 soc.culture.nordic:5506 soc.culture.german:6341
From: malc@pyramid.unr.edu (Malcolm L. Carlock)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.nordic,soc.culture.german
Subject: Advice for travel between San Francisco and St. Petersburg, Russia?
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:23:58 GMT
Organization: Xinaian Tourist Bureau

Does anyone have advice on the best and/or cheapest and/or least-hassle
method of travelling between San Francisco (US) and St. Petersburg, Russia?
I'm currently planning a trip to St. Petersburg between approximately
December 16th '92 and January 3rd '93.

In particular, I'm interested in whether flying to Europe (Denmark, Finland
etc.) and then taking trains, boats etc. the rest of the way is a good idea,
both from a monetary and VISA/passport/hassle standpoint.

Any info along these lines would be greatly appreciated.  If you respond,
please do so by email -- our incoming news has been flakey lately.  I will
summarize to the net.

Many thanks in advance.
--
Malcolm L. Carlock                      Internet:  malc@unr.edu
                                        UUCP:      unr!malc
                                        BITNET:    malc@equinox
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: astro@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Poluekt Shpanets-Shpanion (ne-Shiller))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Packing of RELCOM news and how to fight it
Date: 29 Aug 92 22:58:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: mintaka.1992Aug29.225809.29208
Organization: MIT


I subscribed to RELCOM as the service list instructions said, but I haven't got
a response from them yet.  Could you let me know how to subscribe, please?  
Thank you very much!  

BTW: if anyone else has the information, I'd appreciate if you posted it for me.  Thanks!
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:7026 soc.culture.europe:8087
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 3 Sep 1992 09:36:21 EDT
From: John Greenman <GREENMAN@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Latvian e-mail?

Hello,
I'm trying to find a way to communicate with a family in Liepaja,
Latvia.
Does anyone have any e-mail addresses in that city or country?
Can you relay them to me to try to make a connection?

I'm trying to reach a family that is hosting the son of a fellow
employee here, and they've been unable to reach the family by phone or
letter.

Chris Allen is living with:

the Birzniek family
21-IT Breika Str.
Liepaja, Latvia
LV-3401
tel (7-013) 34 27743

Any help you can give would be really appreciated.
Please respond to my private e-mail address below.
Thanks a lot!
-John Greenman
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From: vadik@cs.umd.edu (Vadim Maslov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: News:Covetckaya nayka daet boi amerikanskoi
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:08:41 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <94445@bu.edu> simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov) writes:
>This afternoon, Mon, 14:00 h PDT, CNN reported that a gunman has killed
>two people at Concordia University. The gunman was described as a dis-
>gruntled professor of Mechanical Engineering...

Yes, this case is talked about very much in universities.
It is said, that this professor was denied tenure.
Now many assistant professors around here are wondering
what they are gonna do if similar thing happens to them.

Vadim Maslov (not assistant professor).
-- 

Vadim Maslov,	Phones: (301) 405-2726, (301) 474-3473
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet