HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: edith@triton.unm.edu (peter menning)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Trippy Stuff
Date: 10 Jan 1993 22:23:45 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
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In article <1ioh7vINN2m3@CHAMELEON.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU> copley-devon@cs.yale.edu (Devon Copley) writes:
>I think it would be really cool if there were a file of a bunch of really
>trippy things to read while stoned.  I'm willing to compile that file if
>you all are willing to send stuff!  So consider this a request:  send me
>the trippiest text file you've got.  I'll collect them and post the collection
>for everyone's use.
>
Hum.. i have been collecting Graphic files to look at while triping.. i enjoy fractint.. and other programs like that.. Maby we could make a compilation.. your texts with some neato graphics..

My suggestion.. if you have any WWIV BBS's around look for some of the ones that only allow alias's and sometimes you can find some real trippy posts.. 

Adric
From: wjstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (WILLIAM JAMES STEWART)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: drug test/cocaine
Date: 10 Jan 93 04:13:54 GMT
Reply-To: wjstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (WILLIAM JAMES STEWART)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: wjstewar@c00072-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu


In article <90T2wB1w165w@works.uucp>, fr_piap@works.uucp (frater piap) writes:
> Path: taco!rock!concert!uvaarpa!caen!uunet!psinntp!alliant!merk!works!fr_piap
> From: fr_piap@works.uucp (frater piap)
> Newsgroups: alt.drugs
> Subject: drug test/cocaine
> Message-ID: <90T2wB1w165w@works.uucp>
> Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 00:18:55 EST
> Organization: The Works BBS - Informational Archives - Est. 1985
> Lines: 5
> 
> I am doing a paper and was wondering if anyone can give me insight as to 
> how long after a person does coke does would a drug test cum up negative?
> Also does adding salt to urine prior to a dt really help results come up 
> negative??  I have also heard about the use of a herb called red clover 
> to aid in cleaning the blood. .  Any liberating information appreciated.. 
> 
I just completed three years of service in the military and had several 
piss tests.  One time a FOAF did cocaine on Friday night and we had a piss
test that Monday.  He came up negative but he wasn't a regular user and he
didn't give his first piss of the day.  I have read that cocaine metabolites
can be detected from 2 - 5 days.  Also, I don't know about red clover, but 
golden seal DOES NOT work as I had two friends burn a piss test after smoking
a lot of pot and taking golden seal.  The army uses EMIT tests and verifies it
with gas chromatography so substances like golden seal or anything else that
throws off the PH of the urine sample doesn't work like it use to with the older
kind of drug tests.  The best way to "beat" a piss test is (1) never give your
first piss of the day as this is usually the most yellow and contains the most
chemicals and metabolites. (2) Never use drugs on a regular basis so as not to
have any build up of metabolites.  (i.e.  daily use of marijuana can lead to 
it being detected for up to a month, but with casual, once or twice a month use,
the THC metabolites will be out of your system within a week)  I used this 
strategy with marijuana and have never come up positive on a drug test.
From: aholdern@zeus.calpoly.edu (Andy "skis" Holderness)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Bong Water etc
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:19:35 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <AfGnwT200Uh7E47UUK@andrew.cmu.edu> Michel Fougeres <mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>In one of the Drug Dog posts someone mentioned that bong water was a good thing
>to spread to distract the dog cause 'I doubt human noses could detect it.'
>All I have to ask is, What!?!?  Bong water REEKS! 
>
>Also, my friends wanted me to post this question:  does smoking SEEDS (not
>separate seeds of mj, but mixed in) cause reproductive system damage?
>
>Ian (this is through a friend's access)
>
>==============================================================================
>
Yeah for the plant :)


-- 
-Andy
"it was fall of '86. Me and God were watching the series. Two outs in
the 9th a slow grounder was hit to first, when God says to me "you
know, I dont like the Red Sox much."
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From: rodney@cabot.balltown.cma.com (Rodney Peck)
Subject: Re: Bong Water etc
Organization: Balltown Offsite
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:31:00 GMT


In article <AfGnwT200Uh7E47UUK@andrew.cmu.edu> Michel Fougeres <mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:


   Also, my friends wanted me to post this question:  does smoking SEEDS (not
   separate seeds of mj, but mixed in) cause reproductive system damage?

yes -- the plant won't be able to reproduce with those seeds.

This is most likely in the FAQ, but I can't see any reason why mj seeds
would be any more dangerous to your reproductive system than eating
sunflower seeds is.  There are bogus rumors about estrogen in the mj
seeds and all sorts of stuff like that.  Of course, it's really 
cyanide.  Just like in acid.

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From: ntrimbac@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Nicholas Trimbac)
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:26:09 GMT

After giving the drug dog=unlawful search argument some thought I must 
disagree. I believe that our civil liberties are being trampled on but I don't 
think there is anything wrong with having a drug sniffing dog(no joke intended)
in a public place such as a school.  My view is this: The odor from drugs is 
like a trail of blood.  If that trail of blood is in a public place and someone
sees it (i.e. the police) someone is bound to follow the trail of blood to its 
source.  In this case the blood trail leads to the locker which in court has 
been shown to be the property of the school.  In this case I do not believe 
there is anything wrong with a search provided nothing inside the locker 
(personal property) is opened to be searched without a warrant.
    If on the other hand the trail of blood led to your car (as was the case in
an earlier post) I believe a warrant would be necessary from the outset.
     In any case if the trail of blood is found in a public place someone is 
going to follow it and then you're screwed..

   My two cents worth....
                           N. Trimbach
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: robc@wicat (Rob Carlson)
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Organization: Jostens Learning Corp
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:04:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.170535.17311@seq.uncwil.edu> kennedj@seq.uncwil.edu (kennedy j shane) writes:
>THe kid with the ten-year sentence was bullshit.  He'll never serve 
>over a year in our crowded prisions for a non-violent crime.  


	The sentence is MANDATORY! No early parole, no time off for good 
behavior, no judicial discretion. He will serve the full ten years. When the 
prisons become overcrowded, violent criminals (murderers, rapsists, etc.)
with no mandatory sentence will be released early.

R. Carlson
From: Scott.Simmer@f7050.n153.z1.ship.wimsey.bc.ca (Scott Simmer)
Sender: UUCP@ship.wimsey.bc.ca
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: SMOKE
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 23:11:09 -0800

Just wanted to say "right on!" with your "Stand Up!" cheer.

Wanted to know if you actually knew of any legal means of incarcerating
yourself in this echo. It seems highly doubtful.

Add A thought : Not all drug users (I'm purposely not clarifying _drug_user_)
are escapists.

(Where did that come from??)
From: mikeq@freddy.CNA.TEK.COM (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:44:16 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.

>
>  Ozone depletion and the greenhouse
>  effect are not only merely theories, but they are not even believed by 
>  a majority of the scientific community.  

Huh? Ozone depletion is a FACT, proven by a host of scientific data.
So is the greenhouse effect. 

Is the earth FLAT, too???

Mike

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From: hiho@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark Peterson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Looking for info on abortifacents
Date: 10 Jan 1993 20:05:39 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Reply-To: hiho@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
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Originator: hiho@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


Could we stop cross posting to alt.magick?


hiho
-- 
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dept of philosophy | west bend, wi.  53095 | (414) 335-5200        

     The shorter the tether, the sooner the goat starves.
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From: eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: freon
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:13:01 GMT

dwdyer@eskimo.com (Wayne Dyer) writes:

>Well, Halothane (a surgical inhalant anesthetic) is CF3-CHClBr, which isn't
>a Freon(tm) but it is a halocarbon, so it could get a "freon" number.  I
>suppose it would have similar effects, but with something like Freon 12 or
>some other commonly used refrigerant, I expect the effect would be oxygen
>deficiency rather than any anesthesia.  

I was about ready to dispute the point that Freon-12 lacked anesthetic 
properties until I consulted a reference (hint, hint!).  In fact, Freon-12
"Has little, if any, anesthetic or toxic action" [Merck Index, 10th ed.,
entry 3048].  However, Freon-11 and Freon-14 are both reported to have
significant anesthetic properties in high concentrations.  So, while it 
is not a universal property of halogenated hydrocarbons, it may well be 
characteristic.  

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From: butler@cluster.gps.caltech.edu (Bryan Butler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: TOMATOES!
Date: 8 Jan 1993 23:03:51 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: cluster.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1ie4bcINNpfv@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier) writes:
>mjr@TIS.COM (Marcus J Ranum) writes:
>
>>	I was WRONG! It was cucumbers. My wife's the gardener and I got
>>my veggies MIXED UP! (actually, aren't tomatoes fruit? but anyhow...)
>
>So are cucumbers :-).
>
>There is a story about a mayor (or some other prominent citizen; I
>have lost the pointer to the details) of a town in New Hampshire who
>announced one day last century that he would eat a tomato on the
>steps of the city hall. So the story goes, many of the local 
>citizens turned out to watch him die a painful death. If anyone
>knows the details I have forgotten, perhaps they can fill them in.
>
>-- 
>John Collier 			Email: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
>HPS -- U. of Melbourne		  	Fax:   +61 3 344 7959
>Parkville, Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3052

I don't know the details of this story, but all this talk of
tomatoes reminded me of a story I read in Hoffer and Osmond's
book, "The Hallucinogenics" (repeated w/o permission from p.
525):

Rouche (1965) reported how a family became self-poisoned with
atropine (hyoscyamine) from tomatoes.  Tomato plants were grafted on
to the Jimson weed where they grew well.  Late in 1963 a family of
5 people ate these tomatoes.  The tomatoes were later found to contain
6.36 mg per tomato.  All five developed deliriod reactions of varying
intensity and some had to be treated in hospital several days.  This
seems to be the first known instance of hallucinogenic tomatoes.

REFERENCE: Rouche, B. (1965). "Annals of Medicine, Something a Little
   Unusual,", p. 180. The New Yorker

It's one of the funnier hallucinogen stories I've come across.

        -bryan
         butler@cluster.gps.caltech.edu
      or butler_b@caltech.edu

"Instead of all of this energy and effort directed at the war
to end drugs, how about a little attention to drugs which will
end war?"	Albert Hoffman
From: perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu (William Perez)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Ketamine <Fwd from daniel>
Date: 4 Jan 93 06:00:18 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

>    A report in SCIENCE shows that co-treatment with diazepam (or a barbiturite
>    also prevents a type of brain damm{age caused by drugs of the ketamie type.
>    Obviously people tacking Ketamine with the intentions of experiencing a
>    psycic effect are leaving themselves open to this type of brain dammage.

Would you tell me which SCIENCE to look in... "the ketamine type" doesn't
necessarily mean K itself.  Otherwise, why would doctors administer a drug
which may lead to brain damage?  So what kind of brain damage are we talking
about here?

>    It should also be noted that the vast majority of people who have died
>    in the UK from (Quote of tabloid press) "THE KILLER DRUG ECTASY" are
>    actually fatalities from Ketamine and Anphetamine (Speed) combinations.

"vast majority of people".... where did this come from?  I've been in the UK
for the past 7 months now... involved in the scene and all that... and I've
seen 2 documentaries explaining this "killer drug" label.  I remember two
people have died of ecstasy-RELATED deaths... read:  dehydration and the
other was a rare reaction from taking too many.  Now, I never heard anything
about K or K combined with Speed, except warnings to stay at home if you do it.

Comments...?

Cheers...
WILL-E

-- 
perez@andromeda.rutgers.edu (William Perez)
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From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: Fentanyl and derivatives
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:02:52 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1993Jan4.101512.18982@husc15.harvard.edu> blom@husc15.harvard.edu writes:
>Does anyone know anything (ANYTHING) about fentanyl and its derivatives?

    Sure.

>What is fentanyl's structure?
>
>Properties?
>
>Substitution sites?

    Goodman and Gilman, "The Pharmacological Basis of Therpeutics".
    The Merck Index.
    Burger's Medicinal Chemistry.

    All available in Harvard's library, I'm sure.

-- 
   ******************************************************************
     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ.
From: curt@access.digex.com (curt williams)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: smoke
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:33:53 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com




The only thing I admit to is sucking in N20 at the dentist.


Where do you get the damn tanks??????????

I promise this is the last time I'll do this.

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From: maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
Subject: Re: War on Drugs Project
Organization: Gizmonics Institute Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:04:34 GMT
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In article <1993Jan7.220627.16239@midway.uchicago.edu>, bagg@ellis.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott) writes:
> In article <MfGT8mW00iV0I3U0lf@andrew.cmu.edu> Michel Fougeres <mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
>>The baseline is this:  I'm doing a project on the War on Drugs through the
>>1960s to present.  I need help though, I need information.  If any of you
>>have specific information pertaining to this subject (if it has a source you
>>can give me, not just word of mouth, but thanks for the effort), I would
>>greatly appreciate it.  Also, I would also appreciate any sources
>>(books, articles, etc with statistics whatnot) that could be listed that
>>you could give to me.  I already know about the washington.u FTP site
>>and have gotten that info.
> 
> A recent issue of the journal, _Social Justice: A Journal of Crime, Conflict,
> and World Order_, was dedicated to commentary and critiques of the War on
> Drugs.  At least one of the articles is exactly what you want, IMHO. 

 Good cite.  Another one you'd *love* is _Blacklisted News: A Secret History
Of The Seventies_. It contains a wealth of information, written from the
trenches, originally published as the Yippie! periodical _Overthrow_.

You'd be *amazed* at the names you recognize. 
  
Available from:

Wisc. NORML
911 Williamson St. 
Madison, Wi. 
53703


Or ask your local activist-packrat-bookcollector.


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From: afisher@sun.lclark.edu (Amelia Fisher)
Subject: Mushroom kits
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:17:26 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:30:40 GMT

kennedj@seq.uncwil.edu (kennedy j shane) writes:

>THe kid with the ten-year sentence was bullshit.  He'll never serve 
>over a year in our crowded prisions for a non-violent crime.  Sounded

	It's as real as anything.   Drug convictions will get you 
way more time than violence, and it's real time too, ie you are 
on the bottom of the early release list.

>like a big scare to me.  The part about doing time for the weight
>of the paper you were busted with was kindof shitty also.  I know
>a dude who was selling it on sugar cubes.  He'd really get screwed.

	If you put it in a glass of OJ, they'd weigh the OJ.

Jim D
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
From: cookc@aix.rpi.edu (rocker)
Subject: Re: Looking for info on abortifacents
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:01:28 GMT

dart@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan) writes:

>	I need any possible information about publicly available abortifacents
>(miscarriage-inducing substances).  Both chemical and herbal substances are
>of extreme interest at this point.  Any information you can give would be
>most helpful.  Feel free to reply via email.

>	No jokes or flames, please.  This is a situation in which the
>choice lies between the death of a fetus and the death of my wife.

I post this publicly in case anyone else considers this course, for
whatever reason.

GET YOUR WIFE AND YOURSELF TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD, FAST!

Every PP that I've ever been to charges fees on a sliding scale, if
money is a problem.  They are an excellent source for female health
care, and will have information on where legal abortion may be obtained,
if your wife's condition is truly this desperate.  They may even be able
to guide you to a doctor who can help your wife to safely have a healthy
birth, if that's your desire.

"Folk" abortifacients often carry a significant risk to the woman.
Do consider that if any herbal substances were found to be safe,
effective abortifacients, there is a good chance that the drug companies
would be selling them in purified form.  If your wife's health is
already poor, PLEASE do not expose her to the additional risk that 
these substances often carry.

And do remember that PP, like any medical clinic, maintains strict
confidentiality.

Best of luck to the two of you.

>						Sean Cannon

          -rocker
From: tovey@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Gadget)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Date: 8 Jan 93 02:42:06 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

>OK for un non-Aussie types what is a soda syphon and what is a bulb?

Well, a soda syphon is one of those things you put water in and use
carbon dioxide canisters with to make your own soda water. They're exactly
the same as the whipped cream machines, except the cream machines have the
guts upside down (because they're used upside down :) ). Either a syphon
or a cream machine are perfectly good for doing nitrous, since there's
nothing else in the bottle. Bulbs are what we commonly call the little
doovas that you use to charge the syphon with gas. You call them chargers?
or canisters? Someone else said in a post that they're available for around
7$ a box of 10. Ah well, over here we pay $3 (Australian) (That's about 2 US)
and they're available in any supermarket. I guess the FBI must of found out
what they're REALLY good for, huh?

Gadget
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From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Organization: Microdata Oy
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:48:44 GMT

mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U)) writes:

>     One question though (truthfully and sincerely), what WOULD happen if
>you dumped a bit of acid in a swimming pool, or maybe something smaller like
>a Hot-Tub before a little party?  Would people start tripping from it, or 
>would it not have any effect because of the acid to water ratio, or would

   According to my calculations, you'd have to dump 62.5 grams of an LSD
salt in a small swimming pool in order to have one hit in one litre. To have
one hit in a volume of water equivalent to a glass of water, the amount
would be 312 grams. And of course, the water would have to be distilled
so that the LSD would not break down and become inactive. (Chlorine is
a big no-no). Personally, I could think of better things to do with 312
grams of acid than to dump it in a swimming pool.
--
Jani Heinonen		jah@mits.mdata.fi		Finger for PGP key
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From: andrew@cubetech.com
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:23:50 GMT

In article <1it96gINNlts@lynx.unm.edu> chumbach@carina.unm.edu (Charles S. Humbach) writes:
>In article <jah.726793170@mits> jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:
>>
>>   This has been an interesting thread, but I really don't see the point in
>>bringing drugs to school. If you can't even wait till you get home, you
>>obviously have a problem.
>>--
>
> When I was in high school I had some friends who liked to get stoned
> on the way home from school. It made long cold walks more intresting.

High-school is definitely more interesting when stoned...  Of course,
I wouldn't know since I skipped class all the time.   ;-)

Really though, when I went to high-school, the doggies just went
around the lockers and not in the classrooms, so people would just
keep their stash in their backpacks or in their cars.  Putting
anything in a locker is dumb.

Furthermore, I can't remember a single bust that came about from a
doggie run.  Every bust that I could remember was from an informant.
In fact, I would bet that they really didn't use dogs and it was all a
scare tactic.  Especially because they made everyone stay out of the
halls........


andrew
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