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From: gerrit@laosinh.stgt.sub.org (Gerrit Heitsch)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Caller ID and Supra?
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 10:48:12 MET
Distribution: world
Organization: Lao-Sinh project (private UUCP site)

In article <1992Aug22.012605.14579@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>, Mark Margolis writes:

> I spoke to Supra and they said that the new ROMS DEFINATELY do not 
> contain ANY caller ID commands?  However, peoople have experienced using
> caller ID with these modems? Can someone tell me what in the world is going on?
Very simple: Rockwell has implemented these commands and the routines
for Caller-ID without telling supra about it.
As far as I know supra buys the complete Software from Rockwell.

Which ROMs do you mean? Caller-ID works with the 1.200C ROMs.

BTW: Does anybody hav a datasheet for the C1999-16 (the cpu used in
     the supra V.32bis)? The modem designer's guide tells nearly
     nothing about this CPU.

Gerrit

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From: apollo@buengc.bu.edu (Doug A. Chan)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Intel 400/e bug
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:37:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: apollo@buengc.bu.edu

I've got a few different brands of modems attached to a Xylogics Annex
terminal server.  Two of which happen to be new Intel 400e (14.4k external
fax/modems)...  Well, I got complaints from some people who tried to
dial into these modems that they would connect but can't do anything else.
After one and a half days of digging (and loss of much hair), I have found
the bug.

When the Annex terminal server hangs up a call, it drops DTR and RTS.
If the following is done:
 1) Drop RTS signal
 2) Drop DTR signal (modem should disconnect as usual)
 3) Raise RTS
 4) Raise DTR (allow for next incoming call)
the next caller can connect but will be in limbo.  The modem thinks that
the RTS signal is still low.  However, if the caller hangs up now, the
modem will work normally for the next call.  This has the effect
of making the modem work only for every other call!

FYI, the modems' settings were (S0=1 E0 Q1) and DTE is 38.4K.

The connect speed, error correction and compression setting have no
effect on the problem.
I'm currently waiting for Intel's response....

-Doug
apollo@buengc.bu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: al045@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gergely Tapolyai)
Subject: CLASS 1&2, T.4, T.etc CCITT @#$@#!!!
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 00:42:11 GMT


What I really do not understand is why is it that I have to pay 
information that should be public knowledge?  Why do I have
to pay over 200 dollars to a publishing company for documentation
of international standards?  Can someone explain that to me?
I know Hayes guys read this. What horrible thing happened when 
they let the AT set public?  I don't think it killed them?
Why can't I have the DCX format for free? Oh.. I forgot, I am not
one of the "elite" top 100 big businesses.  I am just a freakin'
shareware author. I might write a program faster than the big
pigs, and that would be such a horrible thing!  I might steal
oh, 30 to 40 bucks in donations!  Uhhhhhh!!! Scares me!!!
I have to order chips from the manufacturers to get information
on the fax protocols, like class 1.  Why?  Why do I have to buy
100 Rockwell, or Intel chips just so I can read the dang docs on 
it?  

              I   WANT THE T.4 DOCS, AND I WANT IT FREE!

I pay 26% taxes to the government.  If the CCITT, and ANSI are not
part of the gov, then fine.  If this is a private hoopla, fine.
But I don't think so.  So. I WANT MY DOCS NOW!
$200! Thats .. 800 cups of coffee, or 67 medium size pizzas from 
Little Cesars, or 400 Snickers.  or even better thats 2 four meg
SIMMs!  I don't have that kind of money laying around!

I WANT THOSE DOCS AND I WANT IT FREE!

Did anyone of you looked at the Class 1 docs?  What costs 200 bucks
in that?  It is sucks!  Whoever came up with the those commands
must have had a lobodomy.  I swear, my dog (who is dead :( ) could
do a better job making a new standard.  
What happened to "Gosh, lets discuss this with people who will 
actually _HAVE_ to use it."  Nahh.  That would be too easy.

I am a very business oriented person, and believe in intellectual
rights, in many ways.  But this is like holding a patent on
circles, so noone can make a wheel!  

And guess what!  Class 2 will come out, and it will be just as 
bad as Class 1.  I wish there would be a way to come up 
with a new set that we could use and spread it free. So class 1&2
would DIE.  

I WANT MY DOCS FREE!  I want it to be public!  I want my neighbor
to be able to write programs for class 1&2 fax boards (no worry
though, he is a carpenter), without having to shell out _ANY_ 
money.

p.s.: Flames are more then welcome.  I will just ignore them.<g>

p.s.s.: Wow.  _THAT_ felt great.. Almost as good as ...
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: j03l@alf.zfn.uni-bremen.de (Alf Hoheisel)
Subject: Re: ZyXEL: Firmware 5.00 soon across FTP...
Organization: Univ. Bremen, Informatik
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 14:43:25 GMT

Zero.One@p6.f356.n103.z1.fidonet.org writes:


>I have to ask you to stop making our any file that *WE AT ZyXEL* do not give
>to the general public available for FTP.  The only people that should have any 
>beta source code are our beta testers.  To become a beta tester you must sign 
>a form that contains amoung other things a "Non-Disclosure" clause.

That what I know is, that the R5.00 has been official released on 12th Aug 92
by Roger Chen.

When I look at your text and the translated fax from Roger Chen I think,
that the one hand didn't knows what the other hand is doing.

>Thank you in advance for removing *ALL* ZyXEL beta source code.

Why ;-)

regards,
			Alf
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From: cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phil Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: 16550A UART VS BNU
Keywords: Waffle
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:14:41 +1200
Distribution: World
Organization: The Hovel Bulletin Board System

geoff@zswamp.UUCP (Geoffrey Welsh) writes:

> CT61 <CT61@polytec1.polymtl.ca> writes:
> 
> (3) Software which can have it either way (of which I know only one: Waffle!)
> 
>    Installing a FOSSIL will almost always improve performance.

Yeah ain't Waffle 1.65 great.  Telemate also supports FOSSIL drivers.

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From: gtoal@ibmpcug.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: Re: Supra vs. ZyXEL: Which to buy?
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:04:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.194341.2264@cs.ubc.ca> mumey@cs.ubc.ca (Brendan Mumey) writes:
>upgradeable (potential for 16.8K, and maybe v.fast).  Any suggestions?
>Also, where is a good place to order a ZyXEL from?  Thanks in advance.
>I will post a summary of replies, if I get them.

I've just gone through two big US magazines and found only *one* zyxel
advert - their own.  I wonder if they only sell direct?  That would
explain why their MRP is so much lower than everyone else - the rest
discount greatly, zyxel don't.

G
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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Subject: Re: Latency Question
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:13:31 GMT

In article <BOB.92Sep4104913@volitans.MorningStar.Com>, bob@MorningStar.Com (Bob Sutterfield) writes:
> In article <1992Sep3.003250.14571@zip.eecs.umich.edu> dmuntz@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Daniel A Muntz) writes:
>    Latency hasn't changed at all between my WB's after upgrading to
>    5.01.  Ping settles to ~200ms (56 data bytes).
> 
> That packet is so big (~88 octets, counting ICMP headers) that it's a
> better measure of in-modem data compression (V.42bis) than of
> modem-induced latency, or of the responsiveness that the user feels
> when typing in a telnet session that crosses the link.
> 
> To test modem-induced latency, you want the smallest packet possible.
> ...

> These interactive latencies are far better than what you see with ICMP
> pings, and they better represent the type of latency that matters:
> what a user feels.  It's encouraging that they're generally below the
> magical 200ms perceptibility threshhold.
> ...

That's true if you want to measure the latency associated with
keystroke echos during dumb-terminal telnet sessions.

If you want to measure the latency of keystroke echos with xterm, you
want to use something with the much larger than 1-byte of payload.  X
is not like telnet.  Non-host-compressed pings with a small "-s size"
are probably a lot closer to what you'll see with xterm.

If you really care about typing latency latency, the best thing to do
is get rid of all of that telnet/TCP/IP/{PPP,SLIP} nonsense, and use a
simple, dumb-terminal protocol directly over the modem.


It seems to me that the premise that single data-byte latency is all
that matters with telnet is wrong.  I use `rlogin` over compressing
SLIP and v.32bis/v.42/v.42bis a lot.   For for many hours/day and many
days/week.  The single character latency is not what really hurts,
whether it is 10 or 100 ms.  What is noticable is the latency to `vi`
edits or `ls`, when the answer is 1KBytes or even 100Bytes.

FDX character echo times have been perfectly fine for 25 years, since
the days of 110 baud 10 Bytes/sec FSK 103/113's, except for short-lived
oddities like putting 42 byte rlogin/TCP/IP/SLIP packets over 2400
bit/sec modems.  (That particular scenario was the genisis of cslip.)
Compare reading netnews over a modem with looking at the local disk.
The latency that matters is not the time to echo characters, but the
time to respond to a command.

Finally, anyone concerned with character echos over telnet who cannot
dump the TCP stuff should should use the Cray inspired telnet line
modes.


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
From: al045@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gergely Tapolyai)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Flames off Was( Class 1&2, T.4 T.30 T.etc CCITT)
Date: 2 Sep 1992 18:34:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Thank you for all the beloved flames.  Let me air them out
a little bit.
 
Yes, I am aware of the fact that CCITT is not part of the
US goverment.  Yes, I know ANSI is not part of the US government.
 
I also know that both organizations do receive funding from
various goverments.
 
Most of you flamed me more on the facts of cost, copyright, and
and business point of view.
 
I, as a scientist, do not tend to look at the business side of
things (which makes my projects run over budget all the time).
 
On the other hand I do feel that some things must be available to
everyone free, or at least for a reasonable price.  We have
invented, and invent every day so many things that would make
this great country even better than it is.  Unfortunatelly, large
companies that might be effected by the pattent/copyright of such
ideas, buy them and let them collect dust in old basements.
 
Some of you mention price of the ink, paper, printing.  The
average retail price of an engineering book with 600 pages, soft
cover is around 50 to 80 dollars.
 
Some of you say that copyrighted material doesn't have to be
public knowledge.  Yes. Very much true.  On the other hand, look
at the facts:  the less information is released, the fewer things
will support it.  This _is_ business sense (even though I have
none).
 
As some of you suggested it, I would be satisfied with the fax
commands to come with fax/modem devices, from their manufacturers.
 
And as the last note, thank you all for your "delightful" flames.
I learned a lot of new words, and places where I could go.  I
also found out that I have an Oedipus complex, interestingly,
from people I have never met.
 
Thanks,
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TAPOLYAI, Gergely                al045@cleveland.freenet.edu
                                 Cleveland, Ohio U.S.A.
From: kevinb@oblivion.csd.sgi.com (Kevin Brokaw)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra Help!!!
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:39:12 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Computer Systems

In article <8803@amsaa-cleo.brl.mil>, mruth@amsaa-cleo.brl.mil (Mike Thomas Ruth) writes:
|> 
|>    I have a Supra 14.4 v32bis, and I currently run a BBS on an IBM Pc. 
|> I have no trouble with file transfers at 2400, but at 9600+, people can 
|> download okay, but they can not upload at all.  Does anyone have any idea
|> what the problem might be?  Any help would be *much* appreciated.  

If your IBM PC is one of the *early early* ones, and uses the original IBM Asynch adapter
board (or perhaps a similarly older after-market one), the problem may be the asynch 
controllers' ability to service the serial port at speeds of 9600 or above. I recall when
I used the IBM board I could not use a 9600 baud modem, even with a 9600 baud serial port
(DTE) rate. A quick check would be to see if the serial controller chip on the board bears
the id of 8250 (the controller chip is the largest one on the IBM boards). If so, try 
upgrading to a controller that uses a NS16450 or NS16550AFN chip (the later being the 
preferable one, but the former will probably work on an IBM PC if you do not use a serial
port (DTE) rate above 19200. At any rate, since the cost is fairly close, go for the 16550).
Some OEM boards allow for socketed controller chips (also called UARTs), but all IBM boards
have them soldered in, so purchase of a new board is usually indicated.


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From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: UNIX dcom software.
Date: 27 Aug 92 02:13:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: RAND Corporation.

In article <1992Aug27.014358.24833@gordian.com> johnk@gordian.com (John Kalucki) writes:
>In article <1296@bridge2.NSD.3Com.COM>, gsb@hawk.NSD.3Com.COM (Gary Boccoleri) writes:
>>Can someone recomend a good communication software package to use
>>with a Telebit Worldblazer modem. I am currently using KERMIT. I
>>think that it is slowing me down since I cannot set the DTE speed
>>faster than 9600. Is there a newer version of KERMIT that I should
>>be using?
>
>It's simple enough to go into the source for Kermit and hack it
>up for 38400. I did it on a DecStation 3100 in a few minutes.

The latest version of KERMIT, 5A(179) BETA, permits higher speeds, a
sliding-window version of the KERMIT protocol, networking support, and a
bunch of other stuff.  I've used the ALPHA version (5A(170) for well
over a year on SunOS 4.0.3, 4.1.x, and UNIX System V release 3.2 and
4.0.3.

You can FTP it from watsun.cc.columbia.edu in directory /kermit/test.
Pick up the READ.ME file and go from there.

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand.org
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: p45dpmg@bigbrd.agchem.redwater.iol.ca (Peter Graw)
Subject: v.42bis in sync mode
Organization: Imperial Oil Limited
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:40:31 GMT

Is there any reason why v.42bis (compression is what I'm after) is not 
available on modems when running in sync mode? In particular on the 
Zyxel U-1496S?
-- 
Peter Graw    (peter@iol.ca)
Information Management 
Esso Chemical Canada
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: jmclaugh@hobbit.gandalf.ca (Jim Mclaughlin)
Subject: My buddies at USR
Organization: Gandalf Data Ltd., Nepean, Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 22:35:03 GMT

I just got off the phone with US Robotics about getting my dual
standard upgraded.

To start with, I was on hold for 43 minutes.

Once I got to talk to someone, I was told that the upgrade would be
$299 (no mention about shipping), and that I would have to send my
modem to them to "check out".  Then, they would send me the new modem.

He then told me that the turn around time was not going to be better
than 3 WEEKS.  So, if I send the modem to them by UPS ground, they should   
have it in 7 to 10 working days (my experiences with UPS make that a
optimisitic estimate assuming NO trouble with customs).  If they do 
indeed turn it around in 3 weeks, and it takes say 10 days to come back
(they said they would send it UPS ground only), then I should have my
new modem in no less than 7 WEEKS!!! What do I do for a modem in the 
mean time???? 

I asked him if they could send me the new modem and charge my credit card
for the price of a new modem, then when they receive my modem credit my
card with the difference.  He said that they wouldn't do that, and that
if they were to change the rules for one person they would have to change
them for every on, and also that they had so many people upgrading that
they really didn't care if I upgraded or not.

It looks like I'll be selling my USR and looking for something else....
Does anyone have any suggestions for companies that have rational people
in their customer service departments?

I never let a company get a second chance to piss me off.

.... maybe the guy who was running the SYSOP program was transfered  to
the upgrade program......
From: towfiq@Microdyne.COM (Mark Towfiq)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: Supra Announces new ROM (long)
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:09:05 GMT
Organization: Microdyne, Inc., Westford, MA


  This announcemnet is quite impressive.  How do other modems size up
out there agaist what Supra is promising (and I assume in this case
will deliver)?  I was shying away from the purchase of a Supra because
of the bugs they had, but now it seems most of these are cleaned up?

Mark

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: sybesmer@uther.calvin.edu (Eric W Sybesma)
Subject: Modem dials and gets through but no connection!
Summary: Modem dials and gets through but no connection!
Keywords: connect
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:12:33 GMT

I have a Hayes 1200B in a PC XT.  Using Crosstalk, I can dialout.
The other modem answers.  I hear a tone.  I hear the pitch change.
But then the modem keeps humming.  There's no "static" and no
connection.  This happens every time.  Any ideas?

						Please E-mail at
						sybesmer@uther.calvin.edu

Thanks
Eric

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: ccewch@nuscc.nus.sg (Wong Chee Heng)
Subject: Help with Racal modem RMD3264 and PC Anywhere IV 4.03c
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 07:39:57 GMT

I have a Racal modem, RMD3264 connect to a PC Anywhere host. When I dial
from remote using a 9600 V.32/MNP/V.42 modem it works fine. But, when I
dial using a 2400 v.22 hayes compatibles modem, it connects but some 
charathers will be missing. The following is the observations:

1. The alphbet w or W can not pass through from remote. That is when I press
the w key from the remote, it does not appear on both the remote and the host
screee. When I press the w key on the host side, it gets thorough fine and 
appear on the remote screen

2. When I press w on the remote PC, since it can't transmit, I saw a lot of
activity on the TD/RD indicator on the remote modem, and a after a while
the connection drop.


Can someone pls help if you any clue at all. Thank you.


--
Wong Chee Heng
Systems Programmer
From: baroni@eldpa.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Internal Modem for the COMPAQ Contura Notebook
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:05:30 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

I have just bought a COMPAQ Contura notebook, and I would like to by an
internal modem for it. The price requested by COMPAQ in Europe (or at least in
Switzerland and Italy) for their internal modem is absolutely mad (about 500
USD!). Could anyone suggest any less expensive, good quality, compatible
internal modem (it seems, but I am not 100% sure that all modems working with
the COMPAQ Lite series would work as well)?

Thank you for the advice!

Stefano Baroni
IRRMA - Lausanne
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: khioe@mona.jpl.nasa.gov (Kent Hioe)
Subject: What is the fastest communication protocol to transfer file ?
Followup-To: khioe@juno.jpl.nasa.gov
Keywords: Fastest protocol
Organization: jpl
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:03:13 GMT



Hi, does any body know what is the fastest file transfer protocol ?
Kermit, ZMODEM, YMODEM, Xmodem , etc ?

Is there any FAQ for this that I can get ?


Thank you.


--
Kent
khioe@Juno.jp..nasa.gov
From: cybapunk@hovel.welly.gen.nz (Phil Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: probelms uploading with Supra
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:18:03 +1200
Distribution: World
Organization: The Hovel Bulletin Board System

jp_torun@uuisis.isis.org (jp torunski) writes:

> I'm having problems uploading with my Supra Faxmodem 14.4 (external). I have 
> an XT, and I use Telix 3.15.
> 
> When I try uploading at 14.4, it'll go smoothly for a while, and after a 
> random amount of time the whole system will freeze, and I have to reset.
> 
> It works fine when I connect at 9600, with v.32bis off (using at&f0).
> 
> the port is locked at 38400bps.
> 
> Does anyone have any ideas that might help me?

Before buying a faster PC, you should try installing a FOSSIL driver that
supports a slow(er) CPU.  X00 comes to mind.

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.modems
From: wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (David Lesher)
Subject: Dead lists?
Reply-To: wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher)
Organization: NRK Clinic for habitual NetNews abusers - Beltway Annex
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 22:52:30 GMT

Others said
# About the "forbidden" list. It is not really a "forbidden" list, but rather
# a "dead" list. If a connection fails a certain number of times
# ( 12 with my Racal-Datacom ) in sequence, it is considerated "dead".
# 
# Unforunately even a busy line counts as failed. If you set your UUCICO
# to redial your feed every 10 minutes if it's busy and it does not succeed
# within 2 hours it will go to the the "dead" list.


Is the "forbidden" list some specific digit length long?
{Based on my experience visiting in FRG, I doubt it.}

So could a site needing to reach: 331-0001 try:
	331-00010
	331-00011
	331-00012
and so forth, with the telco syitch ignoring that final, unneeded
digit?

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& no one will talk to a host that's close..........................
Unless the host (that isn't close).........................pob 1433
is busy, hung or dead....................................20915-1433