HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:10:56 GMT
Organization: School of Biological Sciences, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan21.083408.1597@galaxy.gov.bc.ca> bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca writes:
>
>>Sorry chaps, some of the weaker countries may look up to you because
>>of your size and power, but most of the Western world usually look
>>upon you in horror. "That's going to be happening here in five years
>>time? No way!" You're the testbed for rampant stupidity.

>
>I've only two words to say: "Type Approval".
>
>What was that about rampant stupidity? :-)
>
>Blaine Gardner

Ah, that's not the British though.  There are several countries in Europe
you know...

Besides, the only bikes made in your country are too feeble to contravene
any significant EC laws...  (Let's face it, HD would love Type Approval -
a chance to restrict all accessories to Official HD (tm), another excuse
to hype the prices.  But then they don't _need_ that because The Lifestyle (tm)
means the punters do it all voluntarily...  QED, Richard?)

tim

(add ":-)" if you're too stupid to figure it out for yourselves:-)

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From: tcora@pica.army.mil (Tom Coradeschi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: trickle charger recommendations?
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:09:42 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Elect Armts Div, US Army Armt RDE Ctr, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

In article <C18DAz.5B6@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, igh50171@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The
Seer ) wrote:
> 
> tcora@pica.army.mil (Tom Coradeschi) writes:
> 
> >In article <1993Jan21.115610.21617@netcom.com>, rhcohen@netcom.com (Robert
> >Cohen) wrote:
> >> I have had lots of trouble overcharging my bike battery using the small
> >> transformer units.  I'm looking for a charger which can trickle-charge
> >> for weeks at a time, keeping the battery fully charged, but not over-
> >> charging it.
> >Another route you might wish to try, since you've already got a charger, is
> >to simply put a timer on the thing. One of those cheapo plug-in units is
> >what I've got on mine (the kind with pins to turn power on and off). I've
> >had it running for a week now, with the timer set for the shortest interval
> >it can handle, which looks to be about 1/2 hour a day. I ETDA'd my battery,
> >charged it and set this sucker up last week. So far it seems to be holding.
> >The timer ought to be lots cheaper than another charger (like 10 bux at
> >home despot).
> Be Careful.  Many battery chargers will drain the battery if left in place
> with the power off.  Check to see if this is happening.  You will ruin the
> battery if it is constantly being charged and discharged.

Good point. The instruction sheet which came with mine _claims_ that it
will not discharge the battery (and so far it hasn't), when turned off but
still connected. I think I'll put an ammeter on it this afternoon and see.

                tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil
From: vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 19:03:06 GMT
Subject: Re: Brake caliper misalignment after tire change?
Organization: Dances with Hawks
From: castro@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gonzalo Castro)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: tell me about the '85 GPZ550
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:25:27 GMT
Reply-To: castro@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gonzalo Castro)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.

Hello there! Having sold my Shadow 700 last October I've
been oogling at new bikes and used bikes for my NB(tm).
Funds being what they are I cannot follow in the footsteps
of fellow NEDoD'ers and buy a new VFR750, as much as I'd
like to. Congrats Scott and Dean!

I've found a 1985 Kawasaki GPZ550 in decent shape. It
not only fits my budget but also satisfies my need for
a sportier bike than I had. I saw it last night and will
test ride it next week. If the test ride goes without
bad surprises and barring any scathing reviews from
the net, I'll make an offer.

My questions to those familiar with the GPZ550:
	1. Do any problems plague this model in general
	   or your GPZ specifically?
	2. How did it/you fare on medium/long trips?
	   I hope to make the RCR again this year,
	   MA->WV->MA, on this bike. Probably ~300 mile
	   days.
	3. What kind of seat/saddle/tank bags have
	   you used on the GPZ550? Does the gas tank
	   mounted console prohibit tank bags? 
	4. With 14,500 miles does $1500 asking
	   price sound ok? All it needs is new tires.
	   Tire recommendations?
	5. Other relevant info appreciated.

Email me at castro@ileaf.com. I'll send anyone who
requests one a summary. If you can't reach me, post
to rec.motorcycles and I'll see it. Thanks!

Gonzalo Castro
castro@ileaf.com
From: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Warm Beer/Brit Bikes
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:43:47 GMT
Reply-To: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk
Organization: Not much.
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)


In article <1993Jan28.015653.1850@ttinews.tti.com> paulb@harley.tti.com writes:

>In article <C1JFru.DIE@world.std.com> ewl@world.std.com (Erich W Lantz) writes:
>+I remember this little gem from a popular US moto-mag some months back:
>+
>+Q. Why do the English drink warm beer?
>+
>+A. Because of Lucas refrigerators.

The only real problem with this 'joke' is that Lucas don't make and never 
have made refrigerators or anything purporting to be refrigerators. Anyway, 
beer shouldn't be drunk ice-cold. The only reason you yanks drink beer cold 
is that you're all to cissy to stand what little taste American beer has.

Tony

+-----------------+-------------------------------+--------------------------+
| Tony Kidson     |`morgan' is an 8MB  486/33 Cat-| Voice +44 81 466 5127    |
| Morgan Towers,  |Warmer with a 670 MB Hard Disk.| E-Mail                   |
| Morgan Road,    |It  resides at Morgan Towers in| tony@morgan.demon.co.uk  |
| Bromley,        |Beautiful  Down Town  Bromley. | tny@cix.compulink.co.uk  |
| England BR1 3QE |Honda ST1100  ==*==  DoD# 0801 | 100024.301@compuserve.com|
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From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Subject: Re: Norton Commander 
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:34:48

In article <foo> tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson) writes:
   If it's 1970, it's a Norton Commando. The Commander is a modern rotary 
				      ^             ^^ 
   engined jobbie.

Actually, Norton Commander is a software package for MS-DOS weenies.
--
DON'T DRINK SOAP! DILUTE DILUTE! OK!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mbeaving@bnr.ca (The Beav Beavington)
Subject: Its off to the basement we go
Keywords: look out below
Reply-To: MBEAVING@BNR.CA
Organization: BNR Ottawa, DMS Software Design
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:17:49 GMT

In an effort to prevent the crunching of knuckles in -15C temperatures,
I have decided to move the motorcycle into the basement for the rebuild.
I have removed the gas tank, rear tail light assembly, carbs, seat, 
mirrors, etc.. so that the most I have left is the wheels, engine block
and handlebars.  Being a V65 Sabre, it still weighs around 300 pounds.
Has anybody had a successful experience with negotiating a set of 
stairs (7 1/4" rise, 10" run)? 

By the way, the wife is off on a business project for a couple 
of months so this will just be our little secret.


Mike Beavington   mbeaving@bnr.ca

=============================================================================
= The Beav |Mike Beavington|BellNorthernResearch Ottawa,Ont,Canada| Dod:9733=
= Seca 400->Seca 400->RZ350->Seca750->Suzuki550->Seca650turbo->V65Sabre     =
= (-> 1994 GTS1000 ...can't afford the '93) |  mbeaving@bnr.ca              =
= Parking spaces? We don't need no steenkin' parking spaces!                =
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper)
Subject: Re: Norton Commander
Organization: Southwestern Bell Technology Resources, St.Louis, MO
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 21:18:46 GMT

In article <93021.145325TLT101@psuvm.psu.edu> <TLT101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Got a question as to value, My friend told me a guy has a 1970 model,
>think its a 750. he might be interested in selling it, Supposedly in
>good shape.  What is a good price for one and how are they for riding??

It's a cool bike, but make sure you're buying a Norton CommandO. ;-)

Alan

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:28:07 GMT

In article <4599@unisql.UUCP> ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:

>I myself have a $170 head, but no one ever has 'em in stock.

Must have been the less-than-broadly-appealing frontal graphics. :-)

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|                   I consider....buying used underpants.                  |
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From: bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers)
Subject: Re: AAA and motorcycles...NOT!!!
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:19:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.185840.17588@ncar.ucar.edu> jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:

>From article <1993Jan27.173715.13397@fuug.fi>, by an4929@anon.penet.fi (gonzo):
>> I had always suspected that AAA would not deal with motorcycles, but

>Unfortunately, it depends on what part of the U.S. you live in. In
>Colorado, you can pay extra for "AAA Plus". This includes flatbed trucks
>and motorcycle towing. The standard AAA service does not cover this.

In California the `Plus' service also covers RVs as well as bikes.
But for $36 (when my car is only $20), I think it is a bit much.
Besides, I've never had my unreliable Italian piece of trash strand
me...

--
Al Bowers                       bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov
NASA F-18 High Alpha Research Vehicle, Lead Aero
NASA, Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, California
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: patlo@microsoft.com (Pat Loughery)
Subject: Tacoma Police officer's trip across Soviet Union
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:46:27 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

I found this on a "weird news" alias here at work.  Enjoy.

---- Begin included message ----

Tacoma, Washington:

Police Lt. Darrell Hughes calls his 5,700-mile
motorcycle tour across the former Soviet Union a mix of
the memorable and the miserable.

Accommodations ranged from a village where Mikhail
Gorbachev once stayed to a cramped Siberian boxcar.

Hughes' experience included kicking his feet up on
Josef Stalin's desk and riding into a pothole so large
that both his thumbs were sprained.

But Hughes said the fondest memory will be the warmth
of the people, most of whom treated him like a
celebrity.  "It was the closest thing to being Elvis
that I'll ever experience."

Hughes laid the groundwork for his visit in February,
when he was assigned to coordinate a sister-city visit
to Tacoma by four police officials from Vladivostok,
the Siberian port.  Hughes suggested to the visitors
that he make the motorcycle trip as a demonstration of
goodwill.

Hughes had to wait an extra month after a delay in
shipping his 1,000cc BMW R100 GS Paris-Dakar, but he
was set to go August 20.

Two Russian National Police majors Victor Strigin and
Alexander Golubshansky, escorted Hughes in a police car
with hand-painted Tacoma Police emblems.

Hughes was grateful for the escort when he found both
paving and road signs "optional" on hundreds of
kilometers of Siberian roads.  At one point even the
roads became optional, and he and his hosts spent four
days crammed into a boxcar with the car and motorcycle.

Hughes remembers it as "the longest four days of my
life."

People along the way loved the idea of a visiting U.S.
police officer, particularly one who didn't wear a
uniform.  But mostly they appreciated Hughes'
explanation of his journey.

He told them such a trip probably should be considered
impossible because of language and cultural barriers,
costs and hardships.  "But if we put our minds together
nothing is impossible," he said.  "We can do anything."

---- End included message ----

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            Pat Loughery [patlo@microsoft.com] Seattle, WA
               '91 Nighthawk CB750 - DoD #393, AMA, VME
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"I had no shoes and I pitied myself. Then I met a man who had no feet,
                so I took his shoes."   -- Dave Barry
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett Lee Leve)
Subject: Re: CB750 Gasket(?) question
Organization: Starved Photo-Linux Hackers Association
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:46:34 GMT

I think that the number 1 cylinder problem when the engine is cold
sounds like a carb problem.  The engine cutting out could be a bad valve
or carburation as well.  If I could drive the bike I could be pretty
sure which it is, but since I can not and you already have the engine
out you should probably take the carbs somewhere where they have
swirl tanks and have them cleaned.  I would also check the valve seats
as well as valve adjustment and cam timming.

--





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|Orlando, FL                              |   mov        al, 0        |
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From: ellert@v32.uh.cwru.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Nationalized Lawyers  was Re: pitch for nat'l health, was: etc
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:29:04 GMT
Organization: Image Analysis Center, Univ. Hospitals of Cleveland
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ellert@nu1.uh.cwru.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: max.uh.cwru.edu


In article <9901127@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>, vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson) writes:
>   To quote a bumper sticker:
> 
> 	"If you like the U. S. Postal Service, you're just going to 
> 	 *love* Nationalized Health Care."
> 
>   I believe it too.  Just wait for the calls to ban <insert your favorite
>   risky toy here> in the "national interest" of controlling "budget costs"
>   for this "burgeoning out of control social program".  With the current
>   bunch about ready to take the wheel, you could almost hold your breath
>   till it starts to happen ...

Whereas the U.S. Postal Service is known for its efficiency, the IRS is
known for its compassion.  I like to compare Nationalized Health Care with
the IRS for this reason.  I leave it to your imagination. :^)

Ed
DoD #1110
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: All-wheel drive???
Date: 27 Jan 1993 15:39:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 289@i88.isc.com, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>
>(Later revisions of the marque began using
>latex sheaths instead, but along with puncture problems that appear
>with some synthetic lubricants, the old-timers will tell you
>that the natural sheaths just "feel better".

When you can find one.  Unbeknownst to the old timers at the time, the
organic sheaths provided little protection from Accumulated Intake
Destruction Syndrome.  AIDS would attack the air, oil, and fuel
filters, eliminating the bike's natural ability to ward off accumulated
grit and spooge from its environment, leading to a complete breakdown
of the motorcycle.

Initially ignored by government authorities who shunned the Spagthorpe
lifestyle, it was not until AIDS began to infect white American male
heterosexual yuppies' motorcycles that research on the problem began in
earnest.  As an interem measure, the use of latex piston sheathes was
encouraged.  In fact, thousands of these sheaths were distributed
freely at poker runs, Dead concerts, Unicoastal Jousts, and other
haunts of the Spagthorpe enthusiasts.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Courier bag:  Do you have one?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 03:22 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1993Jan25.160940.12158@rd.hydro.on.ca>,
	 jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes...
>Conclusion:

>All flat magnets are made this may, becuase it's cheap. You have to be really
>close to them for them to work. Is it enough to erase floppies & cards
>anyway? Don't know. Try it. Put rainsuits in the bottom of your bag until
>it doesn't erase your floppies anymore.

>Someone please try this:

>Stick your old floppy in the bag, then try to read the floppy. Put your
>old floppy between your tank and the bag, and then try to read it. I'd be
>interested to know if there's a difference.

	It's not that easy to erase a floppy.  I once tried several things
that are supposed to do it, like putting a telephone on top of the disk
and letting it ring many times.  The only thing that made it unreadable was
15 seconds in the microwave (along with a glass of water to provide some
absorber).  Still, the system manager here tells the story of a secretary
whose backup floppies were always corrupted; eventually they found out that
she was storing them on the side of a filing cabinet -- with magnetic holders!
(I just checked one -- they're a stores item -- and the "back" has so little
magnetism that it won't even pick up a paper clip).

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Backed into
Date: 24 Jan 93 13:56:49 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

jfriedl@TUBBY.MACH.CS.CMU.EDU (Jeffrey Friedl) writes:

>molenda@i9.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda) writes:
>|> The first time I crashed my CB750F this summer....
>|> Luckily, I crashed a month or so later and ....
>
>This brings up The Question ....  (drum roll).....
>
>	``So, why do you crash so much?''

Does this make me Keeper of the Question (KotQ)?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett Lee Leve)
Subject: Re: '83 KZ650 Brakes?
Organization: Starved Photo-Linux Hackers Association
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:46:15 GMT

Did the bike ever have a leaky fork tube?  It might be that the pads
on it are contaminated or were not broken in correctly.

It is true that you can notice quite a difference in the use of
different compounds.  I could go into the theory of it, but it would
take more time than I have, as I should be doing Discrete homework.
Call one of the brake pad manufacturers, they will tell probably
tell you what you want to know.
--





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|hoggle!hoggle2!bleve@peora.sdc.ccur.com  |   int        021h         |
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From: mtaffe@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Michael Taffe)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Hey, Europe,
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:12:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <728007394snx@isma.demon.co.uk> sDun@isma.demon.co.uk writes:
(About the "Eat my Florida" comment, that is)
>
>Hmmm.... Any chance of a translation.. You know we're all stupid over here.
>
>(From a brit who doesn't give a running fuck where florida is!)
>
 Hint for those not versed in the Fraudian Basic Tenet:

	Anything longer than it is wide.....

=================================
Mike Taffe	:VF500F          |
mtaffe@ucsd.edu :Mongoose IBOC   |
		:Schwinn Circuit |
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From: mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Norton Commander
Date: 23 Jan 93 13:52:40 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

cstringe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Chuck Stringer) writes:

><TLT101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>| Got a question as to value, My friend told me a guy has a 1970 model,
>| think its a 750. he might be interested in selling it, Supposedly in
>| good shape.  What is a good price for one and how are they for riding??


>Not much of a machine, British and all that. Maybe worth a $100 or so.
>Tell you what, I need a large paperweight, I could give $110 for it.


Hey, C'mon guys, get it right...the Norton Commander is the whizz-bang
wankel engined job...the ancient heap to which you are referring is the
Norton Commando...
From: JTL106@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: CX500 FOR SALE
Date: 28 Jan 93 04:22:55 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

1979 Honda CX500 for sale. The engine runs, the only thing that's broken are
the signal lights. So if you want this bike as a first bike to learn on, or
use it as parts, just e-mail or respond in netnews.......
asking price = $ 450.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: FRAHM@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU (Joel A. Frahm)
Subject: Re: Colorado Helmet Law (Proposed)
Organization: JILA
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 00:44:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.224657.28403@colorado.edu> laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
>Subject: Re: Colorado Helmet Law (Proposed)
>Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:46:57 GMT
>In article <3032@monarch.array.com>, kenm@array.com (Ken Murphy) writes:
>|> Not to get into the for/against helmet laws debates, I just thought 
>|> I would let all that are interested, that a bill was introduced 
>|> earlier this week that will make helmets mandatory in the state
>|> of Colorado.
>
>who introduceded it? hopefully not the bitch from longmont
>that has been trying for years to get it passed. and hope
>fully its someone that i can vote out of office.
>
>laz
>you know of course you just started another war


It is true that the Feds are going to withold highway money until we 
have a helmet law.  Score one for the insurance lobbyist scumbags.

Joel  (pro helmet anti law) They can have my freedom when they pry it...
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