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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:15:51 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      re: covers

>try _love for sale_ by the talking heads.  we covered it in a band in

We already have a few heads tunes in the works.  I'd kind of like to do
something from "More Songs about Building and Food".  There's some
funky little ditties on there, good grooves to build on.  _LFS_ is
newer, I think, is that from Little Creatures?

Russ
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 08:29:52 EDT
From:         Sonia Kovitz <skovitz@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: band etiquette
              Malbuff" at Sep 10, 92 8:54 am

Yesterday Lenny Ray Bob Joe said:

> >how do i tell her/them that the
> >other rhythm player is useless at this time. The last time this happened
>
Then David said:

>  used a novel approach: "You're too talented for us," he told the
>  awesomely untalented lead guitarist we wanted to dump. "We're not worthy to
>  play with you. We'll just hold your career back. Don't worry about us; we'll
>  manage somehow." The guy fell for it; he was missing a few dots on his dice.
>  After he left the studio it was like, "Ding dong, the witch is dead!" Guy
>  parks cars now.

Here is a REAL rejection letter, a variation on the above, that was once used
routinely by a Chinese Journal of Economics.  Leonard, I'm sure you
could adapt this to rhythm-playing:

     We have read you manuscript with boundless delight.  If we were to publish
your paper it would be impossible for us to publish any work of lower standard.
And as it is unthinkable that, within the next thousand years, we shall see its
equal--we are, to our regret, compelled to return your divine composition, and
to beg you a thousand times to overlook our short sight and timidity.

Sonia
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:45:59 CDT
From:         Lee=Jenkins%Factory=Sup%Mfg=Hou@BANGATE.COMPAQ.COM
Subject:      re: covers

From:           Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:        covers
Date:           Tuesday, September 8, 1992 at 10:17:13 am CDT

>  Ok, my band doesn't have nearly enough originals to play out, so we're
>forced into doing some covers.  We're sick of the run-of-the-mill covers,
>so, I'm asking the allmighty Allmusic list:  Name a couple or 3 songs
>you'd like to hear covered by some no-name band in a bar.

try _love for sale_ by the talking heads.  we covered it in a band in
college, and it was pretty easy and *lots* of fun to play.

how 'bout _radar love_ (can't think of the band name...)?  is that commonly
covered?  the drum/bass groove would be cool to see & hear live, i think.

if i heard a live band cover _prisoner_ by king's x, and they could pull
it off, i would really be blown away.

i suppose _smells like teen spirit_ is on the "no way" list? :) :) :)

i'll browse through my cds tonight and see what else i can find that would
make me drop my conversation if i heard you playing it...


lee
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 10:00:22 -0400
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: top 10 guitar list

>3. Bo Diddley.  You have not heard what a guitar can do till you hear this
>   guy; his guitars were square but his playing was not.  Irony is, he's
>  still around, but has not had an easy time staying afloat, financially
>  speaking.  Someone ought to have a benefit concert for him.

Ok, here's the Bo story. I don't think I've told it yet...

I am and have been in a number of bands with Bill the drummer.  He's still
in another band besides ours, an old hippie band I was also in for a while.
This is really his story.

Anyway, there was a contest for a band to back up Bo Diddley locally.
So after a couple of nights competitions, Bill's hippie band "wins".  Wins
is in quotes for a reason.  So, the next week, Bo comes to town.  But, the
bar loses it's liquor license.  So, somehow the show gets moved to a club
1.5 hours away.  The band is supposed to be there at 2:00 PM, for a quick
run through with Bo.  They are, and he isn't.  And he isn't.  Finally around
4:00, a Bo flunky comes in and says "Bo is tired from his flight from New
Mexico.  He's taking a nap.  Come back around 7:00".  So they kill a few hours,
and are back at 7.  Bo isn't.  He shows around 7:45 (doors open at 8).  Bo
plugs in, bangs a couple of chords, messes with his equipment, and says
nothing to the band.  Ignores them completely.  Finally one of the band
says "Hi, Bo, we're your band.".  Bo says "Ok, let's try a couple of things".
2 or 3 Bo riffs with the band, and he's happy, and he's gone.  Comes back
an hour or so later.

I guess the show itself turned out pretty good, Bo played for longer than
usual (2+ hours), which is kind of an indication of how he's feeling.

As far as $$ go, Bo took in $5000, the band got $0.  Yup, nothing, nada, 0.
I could live on $250/hour.

Russ
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Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 12:09:19 CDT
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Subject: Re: The Quest For Sharrock
 <1992Sep9.080658.13159@cs.com>

In article <1992Sep9.080658.13159@cs.com>, larry@cs.com (Larry Spence) says:
>
>In article <9209080840.aa28922@thama1.apgea.army.mil>
>gmgettie@THAMA1.APGEA.ARMY.MIL writes:

>>that must have every album ever made since
>>the beginning of time in it, but (you guessed it) _Seize The Rainbow_. He
>>told me that album was probably out of print.
>
>I don't know if it's ever been in print in the US.

Methinks that the last collection of Robert Christgau's CONSUMER GUIDES had
_STR_ listed as an import-only release,but his review (which garnered at least
an A- or so) was from an era in which the CD was a fairly rare bird, so it's
probably due for a domestic re-release. BTW,I inquired directly to Enemy's
NY office if they had any mail-order distribution,and their answer was that
they were still working on it. That was a few months ago,however,so they
might've finally gotten it in gear.

>More and more
>of the import Enemy CDs are getting released in the US, so you might want
>to wait a bit.  I lucked out and found a used copy for $9.

Oh,yeah. Tower Records had Elliot Sharp and Carbon's DATACIDE CD as a $24+
import,and after I balked at getting it,I looked around and low and behold,I
found it at Rose Records downtown for a mere $14.99. Life's little ironies
can be sweet at times.....

      ** Chris Krolczyk,esq.  * DISCLAIMER: My opinions are in **
      ** Maniac-at-Large      * no way endorsed by the Univer- **
      ** U19807@UICVM.BITNET  * sity of Illinois at Chicago.   **
      ** u19807@uicvm.uic.edu * So there. Nyaah.               **
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 10:31:43 EDT
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject: Re: Quartet/Gospel

I'm not writing to critize black quartets but there are other quartets besides
these.  If anyone has heard of these groups write in your response.

Sounds of Victory (my local group)
The Easter Brothers
and others that I can't think of a this moment.

What I am saying is gospel music is universal for different people as long as
it serves its purpose (serving GOD).  This list is for all different kinds of
music especilly gospel/quartets.

While I am am in the subject most Country Music Singers started singing in
churches before going national.  The Oak Ridge Boys was first a quartet before
they started singing Country.
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 08:44:05 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: need train song recommendations
              8 Sep 1992 04:55:06 GMT from <smills@NEWS.WEEG.UIOWA.EDU>

Also, the tune

"What Am I Doin' Hangin' Round?" by the Monkees

is a train tune for ya.

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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:02:00 CDT
From:         G_SEILER@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      Carol (other) likes ...

In response to my "Hello" Rev. Bob asked me what I like--I can only assume he
meant music since that is the subject on this list so ...

Let's start with the older stuff (and please, no comments on spelling lack):

Beetoven, Bach, Tschavisky, Voghnuer (told ya'll I can't spell), etc. up to and
including Yuni ...

Next up:

Goodman, Armstrong, Smith, Andrews sisters, Clooney, Crosby, etc. up to and
including Kenny G., Spiro Giro, Sanborn ...

Then there was:

Hailey, Holly, Redding, Brown, Kingsman, CCR, Mamas & Papas, Dylan (some),
Baez, Cream, Beatles & Stones (of course), Monkees (it's twue), Led Zepplin,
Henly, Eagles, McClain, Kinks, Billy Joel, etc. etc.

Odder still:

Slow children, Sparks, Clash, Adam Ant (what a bod!), Nina Hagen, Talking
Heads, Duran Duran (hey, I was just a kid), Squeeze, B52s, Oxo, Taco, Howard
Jones, Escape Club, Sonic Youth, Soup Dragons, Extreme, etc. etc.

And left are:

Gensis (know who the basis was for the latest video?  Guess, he's from Dallas,
Texas), Stevie Ray Vaughn, Steve Vie, Stevie Wonder, Grand Funk Railroad,
Santana, Prince (1999), En Vogue, etc. etc.

Music taste also includes opera (which reminds me of Pat Benatar):

Man of La Mancha, Fiddler on the Roof, Evita, etc .etc.

So there Bob "Bob," these are my tastes, speak of eclectic!  Dunno what
"Cthulhu" may be but I hope your cruscade helps.

And to Sonia who spoke of sensible shoes:  Are nikes sensible?  They are
comfortable.  Dunno about "hot-to-trot," walking is more my style.  I am,
however, a future librarian and will need to shop for all that sterotype stuff.
I am working on lowering my voice and panicing at the first utterance of noise
louder than a whisper.

Carol                              ------      ________
"Who -- Me?"                       \    /      [      ]      {circle}
G_Seiler@TWU                        \  /       [      ]
G_Seiler@Venus@TWU.edu               \/        --------
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:25:08 EDT
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: covers

Hey Walt!!

I'd love to play (if the money's right--just kidding--the money ain't never
right for us REAL musicians, right ALLMUSICers??)  In my quest to learn jazz
violin (which is coming along quite well, I might add)  I've even tried a
couple of blues licks.  I believe Ithaca's about 14 hours away from Detroit. .


Thanks for thinking of me :-)

Michelle
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 10:56:56 EDT
From:         "David M. Geoghegan" <imagesys!dmg@UU.PSI.COM>
Subject:      Subscribe

	Hi

	I seem to have become unsubscribed again.
	Please resub me
	dmg@imagesys.com


						Dave
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:04:53 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Johnny Shines
              11 Sep 1992 15:00:19 -0400 from <rapotter@COLBY.EDU>

On Fri, 11 Sep 1992 15:00:19 -0400 Russell A. Potter said:
>Recognition always seems to come too late for blues musicians.  Anyone know
>if Robert Lockwood is still alive/active?

Shines lived about 50 miles out of B'ham, and when i found out he was in the
hospital i called the newspaper and said it would be a good time to do an
article on him, of course they didn't and a few days later he passed away.
He and Snooky Pryoyr have an outstanding album thats available called
Back to the Country (Johnny's last album). Robert Lockwood was in town
about a year ago so i reckon he's still kicking.
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Lite Classics
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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:49:02 GMT

I would like to see a duet with Bobby McFerrin and Lester Bowie.  I
understand they are good friends and have performed together in Europe.

I saw the YoYo duet on Arsenio, doing a Bach Air that I have played a
lot on trumpet, so it is one of my favorites, and it is very beautiful.
The strength of that performance led me to buy their CD, and the good
stuff is very good, but I can see it getting tiresome.  Still, I think
both musicians like to do this sort of thing, because it recycles their
music.

Similarly, it is a good thing to try to get straight ahead jazz musicians to
play one tune totally free at jam sessions, because when they go back to
their regular tunes, they are more spontaneous on them.

As for the Bach Cello Suites, I understand YoYo could play all of them
at a very young single digit age.  But word is that his recording of them
were made at a very young age,  so while he was taking care of business,
they are also somewhat immature in their interpretation.   So if he
still is doing them, they will be growing.  Who knows, playing with
Bobby might help him along on this, because their phrasing on the Air is
very interesting.  So maybe in 20 years, YoYo records them again, and
they might be truly something else.

BTW:  Bach cello:  get Anner Bylsma, he is the cat.

Jeff


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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:39:18 EDT
From:         Michelle May <MAMAY@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
Subject:      Clarifications

Arrgh!!!!!! I've been having horrible trouble with my BITNET access and have
lost contact for a few days...but I'm back. . .

Sonia: (and whoever else may be interested)

Your recommendation to Mike of the Love Alive albums was excellent--as I
mentioned before, the Hawkins family are one of my favorite gospel groups.
As a point of clarification, his name is Edwin Hawkins, not Edgar; and their
most famous sister is Tramaine (pronounced like Jermaine with a Tr at the
beginning).  I can't remember the other sister's name, either.  Gospel music
can be difficult to sing--many choirs do so much screaming that they sound
weak and out of tune.  I have never heard a Hawkins choir with that problem!!

Michelle
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From:         Dave Hall <USTS060@UABDPO.DPO.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Local Scene
              9 Sep 1992 11:33:03 CST from
              <CLAWSON%LOYNOVM.BITNET@AMERICAN.EDU>

On Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:33:03 CST RichardClawson, S.J. said:
>Birmingham has also spawned a young musician known as Aven.  He is half of the
>group called "Cages"  which recently released its debut album on the Capitol
>label earlier this year.  They have already appeared on Leno once and are
>schedules to make three more appearances - the next one on Sept. 23rd.  Cages
>is something of a band in search of a style, but the talent undoubtedly exists.
> I'd say check 'em out.
> RDC,SJ
    I can't believe I forgot one major band from Birmingham (if the guys found
out, they'd hang me by my nose hairs and pelt me with rotten fruit) -- Remy
Zero.  Okay so it's another band with a lousy name, but once again these
guys are IMHO extremely talented.  Remy is in New York right now while
they finish recording their first album.  Cingun Tate, the lead singer,
sounds remarkably like Bono (much to his own chagrin) but the overall
effect is not that of a U2 wannabe.  This will, most likely, be a very
good first attempt by an absolute unknown.  Oh yeah, the album will be out
on capital records and they plan to tour next year.  Worth checking out.
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From:         David Malbuff <SPGDAM@UCCVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Billy Ray fever sweeps the colleges

>
>Has I was seeing this with unbelief; I thought to myself was it this bad when
>Ray Stevens did "The Streak".  The world may never know.

I predict it will have about the same shelf life.

David
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Subject:      Re: Junkies

>     Here's hoping he pulls a Saul act, but drag out the Flatlanders
>     and start from there, IMHO.
>
>Dave
>t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
>Dallas is a jungle
>but Dallas gives a beautiful light

Watch where you fly that DC-9, Butch!

Well, I'm back from spaghetti hell. I've been all tangled up in rewiring
a computer lab here at Bridgewater. I've got a whole buncha new discs in the
last couple of weeks, so I'll post some reviews later. Has anyone heard the
new Robert Cray disc yet?

Here's a little snippet from the new Roger Waters disc that I really got a
hoot out of:
       "We cower in our shelters
	with our hands over our ears.
	Lloyd-Webber's awful stuff
	runs for years and years and years.
	An earthquake hits the theatre
	But the operetta lingers
	Then the piano lid comes down
	and breaks his fucking fingers.
	It's a miracle"

-Adam
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From:         crispen <crispen@EFFTOO.BOEING.COM>
Subject: Re: covers

"Bozo Skeleton" by Lard -- I think this is new words to a Ministry
   song but I can't remember which one.
"Whip It" by Devo -- this was performed by a metal band in Decatur AL
   a couple of months ago, and they had to encore it!
"Jeremy" by Pearl Jam -- only if you've got a singer who can do it.

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From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
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Subject: Whose database did I manage to get on this time?
Date: 5 Sep 1992 01:51:41 GMT
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NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  I went to check my mail today, and what should I find -- an invitation
from Musician magazine and BlueMoon Records to attend a special private
autograph party (ooh, autograph party... I feel giddy) they're sponsoring
for Tribal Tech, as a celebration of their latest release, _Illicit_ , 
which I bought from Noteworthy about two weeks ago. Is it possible that 
Noteworthy and Musician share a database somewhere?  :)  Or did all the 
Musician subscribers get one of these??  Very strange indeed.
  
  Jeff ("n.n.")

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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:00:32 CDT
From:         There is No Answer <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: covers

>>I've never heard of a no-name bar band that did "Sweet Jane" or
>>"Rock & Roll,"  by the Velvet Underground. I think at least one

>Actually, a short-lived band I was in did play Rock & Roll.  It was
>before I really knew how to play guitar, and the other guitarist did
>*both* guitar parts by himself.  Don't know what happened to him.
>We also did alot of Ramones and Devo with that band.....

I like you already.   B)

Which version? the Loaded or the Another View version?

>>"Freak Scene" by Dinosaur Jr., I'll buy y'all a beer.

>Don't really know that much about them. Are they a noise band like Sonic
>Youth? One good thing about students being back is that the radio station
>comes to life again...."alternative" at least.

Dinosaur Jr. is a fave-rave band of Thurston Moore and Kim Gordon,
two members of Sonic Youth, and I guess J. Mascis, the autuer behind
Dinosaur Jr. is fan of Sonic Youth. While SY is definately arty with
their noise, D Jr. isn't. It is like SY is noise for the tragically
hip while D Jr. is noise for the terminally alienated. I have much
difficulty to get "into" _Daydream Nation_, but I can get into either
of the two D Jr. albums (_Bug_ and _Green Mind_) at a moments notice.

Thing is, you have to have a minimum amount of volume to play Dinosaur
Jr. If you play it to quietly it comes out as an annoying whine and
you miss the beauty.

>R

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
There's a doorbell in your mind
but it's like a neon sign
you won't see me you won't see me
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:47:07 CDT
From:         "The Truth (some assembly required)" <T9AA@SDSUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Quicksilver and Soldier's Joy

Re: Michelle Shocked's assertion that Soldier's Joy == Morphine:

I'm pretty sure that Soldier's Joy (the tune) predates morphine, which I
believe was introduced *after* the Civil War, and not during it as Shocked
claims.  I meant to check on this after I heard her make this claim in concert;
I'll do it now for sure.  I would hate to see a decent fiddle tune get ex-
propriated by the Politically Correct Musical Left in support of God Knows
What.

     Well, I took American Military History, and my memory is that
     thousands of soldiers left the war with monkeys on their backs.

     I unfortunately have no reference materials with that info around
     at the moment.

BTW, Shocked's version of Soldier's Joy sucks, IMNSHO.

     I cannot comment on that. I actually have not heard it. Can anyone
     name an available cheap and good version of it anywhere?

-Scott "Grumpy Curmudgeon" Hammer
 College of William and Mary

Dave
t9aa@sdsumus.bitnet
It's my wife and it's my life
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 08:52:02 PDT
From:         Mike Masuda <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Covers

Russ,

Speaking of segueing from one song into another,
In this other band that I was in (Bamboo Vandals, never played a gig)
I came up with some interesting twists for Doors tunes:

"He knows when you're asleep,
 knows when your awake,
 so be good, for goodness sake,
 Santa Claus is coming to town,
 Santa Claus is coming to town,
 Santa Claus is coming to town, yeh"  --sung to the tune of "Break on Through"

Also, we tried sequeing "Touch Me" with "The Muppet Show Theme".
Quite a fun jam session, I thought.

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