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From: mshaughn@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Shaughnessy)
Subject: Work in Germany?
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 20:08:00 GMT


Hey all.
I am looking for any and all info that you might havew about work
programs abroad, specifically Germany. I am studying Mechanical
Engineering and would like some practical experience in Germany, with an
opportunity to learn the technical language. I have heard of some people
who have worked in computer labs, through a program in certain schools. If
anyone is working in such a program, could they send me info. Any info
would be greatly appreciated.
(this probably is only a wish that smeone would have such info, BUT!
if you do, pllease send it to me) 

Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: bzbmaiba@ZIB-Berlin.DE (Maibauer, Wolfgang (ZIB))
Subject: Re: Sinti/Roma/Zigeuner
Reply-To: bzbmaiba@ZIB-Berlin.DE
Organization: Konrad Zuse-Zentrum fuer Informationstechnik Berlin
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:41:12 GMT


In article 12394@tom.rz.uni-passau.de, baier@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Joern Baier) writes:
>In article <1992Sep26.150839.27306@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> hi61@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Deck) writes:
>>[ueber Interessenorganisationen der Roma und Sinti]
>>Ich haette schreiben sollen: Es gibt keine Dachorganisation, von der sie
>>sich vertreten fuehlen.
>>Der von Dir genannte Verband mag durchaus ein vernuenftige Ziele haben,
>>er kann aber sicher nur eine Minderheit vertreten.
>Der "Zentralrat Deutscher Sinti und Roma" vertritt, wie der Name schon sagt,
>die Interessen der in Deutschland lebenden Roma und Sinti. Ich kann jedoch
>nicht sagen, wie der Organisationsgrad ist und welche genauen Ziele der
>Zentralrat vertritt.
>
Es ist sicher nicht so sehr von Bedeutung, ob nun jeder einzelne
konkret Mitglied im Zentralrat der Sinti und Roma, ich denke aber,
dass er im grossen und ganzen die Interessen vertritt. Auch in anderen
gesellschaftlichen Bereichen gibt es Interessenorganisationen z.B.
Behindertenverbaende, die auch wenn nicht alle Betroffenen Mitglied
sind, dennoch in ihrer Meinungsaeusserung repraesentativ sind.

Ein wichtiger Beitrag des ZR ist sicher dass seit seinem Bestehen
der "Begriff" der Sinti/Roma mehr im oeffentlichen Bewusstsein
sind und in der Presse eigentlich nur noch vorkommen, was frueher,
wenn ich mich recht entsinne, nicht der Fall war.

Gruss Wolfgang
From: deryd@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Dery David)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Deutsch Comics ? (Commic book)
Date: 3 Oct 92 09:47:24 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Guten Tag,

	I read comic books for the fun of it but it is also a good way to learn
a foreign language. There is a good differance between U.S. and eurupeen comics.
For exemple in the U.S. comics (D.C. and marvel) are about super-heroes like
Superman and Batman. Most europeen comics are french or belgiam. 

	When i tried to find a typical german comic book i couldn't find one!
I found Asterix translated in german (I have all of them in french) and some
Tintin. Is there such a thing as German comic books ? 

	I enjoyed Asterix because of the play on words and that while kinding
about other europeen (including french themself), you learned about europeen
differences. That was a french point of view. What about German humour in
comic book ?

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From: schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Joachim Schrod)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Germany to commemorate launch of first Nazi rocket despite protests
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:06:26 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt

In article <1992Oct4.235457.24433@rhrk.uni-kl.de>, kring@efes.physik.uni-kl.de (Thomas Kettenring) writes:
> Joachim Schrod writes:
> >Hmm, I've hoped I made it explicit enough that it didn't sound as an
> >implication. ;-) Scientists selling themselves (or their brain, if
> >you want) all the time, without caring for the consequences of their
> >work.
> >
> >What I didn't want to imply is that this is a genuin property of
> >scientists. Eg, I find politicians worse.
> 
> I hope you're at least not silly enough to think that *all* scientists are as
> dishonorable as outlined above...

No -- after all, I'm a scientist. ;-) But single persons do not change
a pattern which is recognizable in the whole society. Remember: I do
not talk of single persons here, I talk of groups within a society.

But anyhow, I do not want to make myself better than others: I _do_
sell my brain -- I see it every month in my payment accounts. Even in
this ivory tower of the University one is not isolated from society;
where money is put, ie, for which research area money is spent, is
not something which falls from heaven. Eg, although my research is
not paid by the BMV, I'm well aware that the kind of stuff I'm
working on (UI design) is of interest for them. To think research is
made l'art pour l'art is an idealistic view which I cannot follow.

A good book on this subject (IMHO) is:

    Peter Bulthaup: Zur gesellschaftlichen Funktion der
    Naturwissenschaften. Frankfurt: Suhrkamp, 1973.

But it's out of print, one must look at one's library. Of course,

    Herbert Marcuse: ``Einige gesellschaftliche Folgen moderner
    Technologie.'' In Aufsaetze aus der Zeitschrift fuer Sozialforschung
    1934-1941. Schriften, Band 3. Seite 286-319. Frankfurt: Suhrkamp,
    1979.

is also still worth looking at.

> Science is like democracy - it's not perfect, but it's the best thing available.

I'm more inclined to try `Vernunft'. It subsumes and goes beyond science...

--
Joachim
Darmstadt, Germany
<schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: baier@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Joern Baier)
Subject: Re: Sinti/Roma/Zigeuner
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 14:03:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.162853.15555@tom.rz.uni-passau.de> baier@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Joern Baier) writes:
>[...]
>Die "Zigeuner" sind am Ende des letzten Jahrtausends aus Indien gen Westen
>gewandert. Im Iran haben sie sich in zwei Gruppen aufgespalten, in die Ben
>und in die Phen. Waehrend die einen nach Nordafrika wanderten, sind die ande-
>ren nach Europa gezogen (ich habe allerdings im Moment vergessen, welche der
>beiden Gruppen wohin wanderte) und somit die Vorfahren der heute in Europa
>lebenden Roma und Sinti.
Ich habe noch einmal nachgeguckt: Die Ben zogen nach Syrien, Aegypten und
Palaestina, waehrend die Phen ueber Armenien nach Europa gelangten.

Tschuess,
		Joern
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: zxmkr08@mailserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Cornelius Krasel)
Subject: V2 again (was: Violence update 30.09.92)
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:30:18 GMT

In <5XH7CJB@math.fu-berlin.de> weberwu@inf.fu-berlin.de (Debora Weber-Wulff) writes:

>In other news, the official party for the V2 rocket has been cancelled.
>But there will be an "inoffical" party, including talks by important
>people and "a talk on the tragic uses of the first V2's". Complain
>to your governmental officers! Other countries *must* protest this
>completely insensitive behavior of the German government!

Ach ja? Den Briten sind deutsche Gefuehle bezueglich "Bomber-Harris" doch
auch weitgehend egal gewesen... warum sollen wir Deutschen uns in diesem
Punkt verstecken? Es gibt andere Dinge (z.B. den geloeschten Teil des
zitierten Postings), fuer die wir uns wesentlich mehr schaemen sollten.
Wenn die Raketen-Freaks ihre V2 feiern wollen, sollen sie doch.

Cornelius.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: pss4c@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Peter Savage Schweitzer)
Subject: Re: Fussball-Bundesliga, 8.Spieltag
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: world               
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:42:27 GMT

To the person publishing the Bundesliga Tabelle:
Great job--please keep it up.  There are some Bundesliga fans
here in the US dying for any tidbits we can get.  I know I may
be endangering my credibility by revealing my alliance to
Bayern Muenchen, but regardless of your favorite team, please
keep the Tabelle going.  I suppose I could mention Bayerns
amazing start after a trying year last year.  Maybe it was all
Effenberg's fault (though I doubt this).

Thanks,
Peter Schweitzer
University of Virginia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: s0319198@let.rug.nl (E.B. Meijerink)
Subject: apartement/room wanted in Berlin
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:35:29 GMT

An american friend of mine is looking for a cheap but nice apartement in 
Berlin. She is studying at the technical University but due to unforseen 
circumstances she is going to be homeless. So if anyone knows of a cheap 
aprtement/room near the University please let me know.

Thanks!

Erik Meijerink
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: sundermm@columbia.dsu.edu (MARC SUNDERMEYER)
Subject: Looking For Sven Kalbitzer
Organization: Dakota State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:45:57 GMT

 Hello to anyone who can read this. I am looking for a friend of mine by the 
name of Sven Kalbitzer and was also wondering if I could contact him through 
internet.  Thank you for your time.
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From: asiddiqu@diana.cair.du.edu (ALTAF SIDDIQUI)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.japan,soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.italian
Subject: FLOOD RELIEF
Date: 27 Sep 92 00:50:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado

This is an appeal to all for humanitarian aid to "Flood affected people of
Pakistan". Recently, as you all might have known that Pakistan has been struck
by the worst floods of its history- the damage has been unprecedented where overtwo thousands are dead, about three million have been uprooted, the communication infrastructure has been severely damaged, more than 50% crops have been destroyed and disease is spreading in affected areas. The people of Pakistan are contributing a great deal of help, but damage being so vast requires our assistance.
Within USA, flood relief account has been opened at number of places where contributions can be deposited. In Denver (Colorado USA), the following people are
collecting flood relief fund. Contributions can be made in cash or through a
check payable to "Pakistan Flood Relief Fund".
1. Syed Nasir Ali (Phone:303-337-3093)
2. Tariq Niazi (Phone:303-363-0827)
	Address: 11494 East Center Ave.
	Aurora, CO 80012 USA
3. Mian Nawaz (Phone:303-680-5420)
With regards and love
May God Bless you all
Altaf.
From: alti@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Thorsten Altenkirch)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Violence update 26.9.92
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:20:02 GMT
Organization: LFCS, Edinburgh
In-reply-to: weberwu@inf.fu-berlin.de's message of 27 Sep 92 13:39:07 GMT

In article <SRE7LOK@math.fu-berlin.de> weberwu@inf.fu-berlin.de (Debora Weber-Wulff) writes:

   chanting "Auslaender raus!". Nobody was paying them any attention. What
   should I have done? Caught up with them and scolded them?

Only real heroes do this. Don't be silly!

   Called the
   police?

What should the police do? I don't even think it is an offence if
somebody chants "Ausl"ander raus!". Sure, it is rather stupid, but
this is not a crime.

   Ignored them? In the end I just walked on, but an uneasy feeling
   remains.]

I suppose this was just the right thing.

   Debora Weber-Wulff                       dww@inf.fu-berlin.de
   Institut fuer Informatik                 +49 30 89691 124
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"Germany still proves reluctant to exchange email with other countries 
efficiently" - Summer 1992 Systems Newsletter, Dep. of CS,Edinburgh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: weberwu@inf.fu-berlin.de (Debora Weber-Wulff)
Subject: No violence updates for a week...
Reply-To: dww@inf.fu-berlin.de
Organization: Free University of Berlin
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 13:15:13 GMT

... unless some of you German lurkers take over. I'm off to a 
conference in Paderborn (that's just outside the middle of nowhere,
a 7 hour, 2 change of train, ride from Berlin :-(

I didn't get a paper this morning, I got up too late, and all the
"Berliner Zeitungen" were sold out (they could have made a *mint* this
morning. Despite Gruener + Jahr, they still don`t have the hang of
the free market :-).

I did catch someone at the news desk at the Tagesspiegel this afternoon
to ask why there was no "violence news" on Friday. I spoke with
a Mr. Barth, who confirmed that they did have violence reported, but
that it is a day-to-day decision whether and how to put it in the paper.
It is his personal opinion that the little stuff like fire bombs
being thrown and all should not be reported at all, so that the youth
don't have the satisfaction of seeing their actions reported in the
paper. We disagreed over this point for a few rounds. I tried to explain
that I need the information for the net, but I'm afraid I didn't get
through to him on what the net is :-) But he did say that there has not
been any decision to discontinue the violence reporting.   

I hope the national holiday today remains peaceful - it's lovely
weather here in Berlin.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: osg@aeglos.hanse.de (Oliver Giessler)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Germany to commemorate launch of first Nazi rocket despite protests
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 07:56:18 MET
Reply-To: osg@aeglos.hanse.de (Oliver Giessler)
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In article <1992Sep28.120149.38814@news.th-darmstadt.de> (soc.culture.german), schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Joachim Schrod) writes:
|In article <1992Sep28.070606.7492@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, lbs@tkmhp2.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Lech Borkowski) writes:
|> In article <0105013A.enngk8@aeglos.hanse.de> osg@aeglos.hanse.de (Oliver Giessler) writes:
|> >
|> >They want to celebrate
|> >the first start of an modern kind rocket. Wich represents the
|> >roots of the american and russian rocket programm (btw build up
|> >mainly by german scientist)
|> >
|> 
|>  Touchy point of national pride? :-)
|> How about celebrating the anniversary of Tsiolkovsky's
|> birth instead?
|
|Perhaps only a hint, how both the US and the USSR government did not
|bother about the (Nazi) background of the scientists they used to
|push their space programs?
|    After all, for them there was probably no difference in working
|for the Nazi military, or for the US resp. USSR military. Which tells
|something about the moral of scientists. Dr. Faust is still alive...

Right. That was my intention. The morning newspaper shows me,
that our arguments were good; the party is canceled. Finaly they
came to ones sense ...

Und nun ein wenig in Deutsch; ist ja zweite Verkehrssprache
hier. Mit dieser ganzen Sache ist ja mal wieder
aufgefallen, welch dubiose Rolle der Staatssekretaer Riedel
spielt. O-Ton Tagesthemen: "Ich habe den Text der Einladung
nicht gelesen."  Der ist so industriefreundlich das Spoetter
schon behaupten, dass er nicht die Vermittlung zwischen
Regierung und Industrie, sondern umgekehr wahrnimmt. Man
erinnere sich nur an seine Aeusserungen zum Jaeger 90. 

|PS: Who is Tsiolkovsky?

???

--
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Fax: +49 40 538 47 68   -  eMail: osg@aeglos.hanse.de

"Der Schwache stirbt taeglich mehrmals, der Mutige stirbt nur einmal
Giovanni Falcone 1938-1992
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti)
Subject: Re: Sprachuntericht in deutschen Schulen
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:58:26 GMT


stoer@hal.nta.no (Stoer Mechthild FNT) writes:

: Zu der Diskussion, ab welchem Schuljahr 
: welche Fremdsprache einzufuehren ist,
: und ob man die Sprachen der Nachbarlaender lehren sollte.
: (womit es sich eruebrigen wuerde, die Sprache zu lernen.)

Genau, ich hoffe auch das die Deutschen ein bisschen wenigstens
Finnisch lernen werden in die Schulen und nicht die evigen
Englisch oder Franschosich...
jarmo
:
From: schrod@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Joachim Schrod)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Germany to commemorate launch of first Nazi rocket despite protests
Date: 28 Sep 92 12:01:49 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt

In article <1992Sep28.070606.7492@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, lbs@tkmhp2.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de (Lech Borkowski) writes:
> In article <0105013A.enngk8@aeglos.hanse.de> osg@aeglos.hanse.de (Oliver Giessler) writes:
> >
> >They want to celebrate
> >the first start of an modern kind rocket. Wich represents the
> >roots of the american and russian rocket programm (btw build up
> >mainly by german scientist)
> >
> 
>  Touchy point of national pride? :-)
> How about celebrating the anniversary of Tsiolkovsky's
> birth instead?

Perhaps only a hint, how both the US and the USSR government did not
bother about the (Nazi) background of the scientists they used to
push their space programs?
    After all, for them there was probably no difference in working
for the Nazi military, or for the US resp. USSR military. Which tells
something about the moral of scientists. Dr. Faust is still alive...

--
Joachim


PS: Who is Tsiolkovsky?

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Computer Science Department
Technical University of Darmstadt, Germany
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
From: serb@polisci.umn.edu (Scott Erb)
Subject: Re: Kulturelle Identitaet
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:26:48 GMT

In article <ld10a9INNnrm@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> silber@orfeo.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Silber) writes:

>In article <1992Oct5.120418.27626@tom.rz.uni-passau.de> baier@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Joern Baier) writes:
>>Was hat man unter "kultureller Identitaet" zu verstehen?

> Das ist ein weites Feld.  Als top-level first-pass wu"rde ich sagen, dass
> "kulturelle Identitaet" eine Sache der Sitten und Neigungen ist, die
> von "Blut und Boden" unabha"ngig ist.  "kulturelle Identitaet" bezeichnet
> die Art unde Weise eines normativen oder musterhaften Verhaltens
> das fu"r eine bestimmte Gemeinschaft typisch ist.  Man ist in eine
> "kulturelle Identitaet" eingeweiht ("mit der Muttermilch") oder man
> bekennt sich zu einer "kulturellen  Identitaet".   Da es um eine Sache
> des Leben-in-einer-Gemeinschaft geht, ha"ngt das alles von einer Art
> Vertrag zwischen dem Individuum und der Sittengemeinde.  
> Der Rassismus verneint die Tatsache das alle Kultur erworben ist, und
> versucht die freie Kulturwahl des Individuums zu verhindern.
> 
Diese Definition finde ich sehr gut, obwohl ich Kultur als eine Sache der 
gemein gehaltenen Werten und Glauben betrachte.  Sitten und Neigungen werden 
durch diese gemein gehaltene Werten/Glauben (english - shared beliefs and 
understandings) konstruiert.  Als Amerikaner, der ein Jahr in Deutschland 
gelebt habe, kann ich feststellen, dass die Amerikaner und die Deutschen in 
vielen Hinsichten sehr aehnlich sind.  Es gibt eine westliche Kultur, die 
durch die Konsumgesellschaft immer staerker wird.  Dagegen gibt es auch 
verschiedene Unterschiede, damit man auch sagen kann, dass die Kulture 
anders als einander sind.  Allerdings kann man das auch innerhalb 
Deutschland feststellen -- die Bayer und die Berliner sind in manchen 
Hinsichten anderer Kultur.  Eine Gesellschaft wird stark und dynamisch, wenn 
viele verschiedene Glauben und Werten friedlich und mit Toleranz 
zusammenleben.  Dabei lernt man von Anderen, und waechst man, als man seine 
eigene Glauben und Werten untersucht.  Dieses Nachdenken wird in einer multi-
kulturellen Gesellschaft stark gefoerdert.  Eine Gesellschaft, die ihre 
kulturelle Identitaet ganz eng definiert, begeht eine Art Selbstmord.
From: fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Sending money to germ
Date: 26 Sep 92 16:16:18 GMT
Organization: CompuData Inc.

carl.camurca%travel@wugate.wustl.edu (Carl Camurca)  writes:

>LL>Is that true? My informations suggest fees on the order of $15-$20 for
>LL>personal checks drawn on a US bank. Can anybody confirm this, or give a
>LL>(list of) bank(s) with cheap rates (i.e. <$5)?

>Hmmm, the other way, the "Postbank" (state) charges ca. 10 DM in
>comparison to 20 DM by the average bank (private)

Are you guys serious here? I send checks to Germany on occasion and have never 
had a complaint about fees etc. Are you guys saying that people I send these 
checks to have to pay a rather large check cashing/deposit fee?

I send checks to the Versandstelle fuer Sammlermarken (Deutsche Post) about 
every six months and they always credit me with a conversion rate of the time.
What gives?  I also sent checks for book orders.

Fred
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From: kai@depeche.toppoint.de (Kai Voigt)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: Fussball-Bundesliga, 8.Spieltag
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:16:15 GMT
Organization: World Violation, Inc.

pss4c@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Peter Savage Schweitzer) writes:
>
> To the person publishing the Bundesliga Tabelle:

Call me Kai!

> Great job--please keep it up.  There are some Bundesliga fans
> here in the US dying for any tidbits we can get.  I know I may
> be endangering my credibility by revealing my alliance to
> Bayern Muenchen, but regardless of your favorite team, please
> keep the Tabelle going.  I suppose I could mention Bayerns
> amazing start after a trying year last year.  Maybe it was all
> Effenberg's fault (though I doubt this).

Thanks for your support. I need it since my team (HSV) is not as
good as Muenchen :-)

Kai.

PS: Send money to the address below :-)


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