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From: john@porta.b24a.ingr.com (John Nolin)
Subject: "Off Weeks" for NFL Teams (FFL related)
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 00:06:08 GMT

Here are the off weeks for NFL teams in the coming season.  Hope that
this helps out with everyones fantasy football draft day strategies.

Week 4 
Cowboys
Colts
Giants
Eagles
Cardinals
Fore Skins (:

Week 5 
Bengals
Browns
Oilers
Steelers

Week 6
Bears
Lions
Packers
Vikings
Bucs
Chargers

Week 7
Bills
Patriots
Jets
Dolphins

Week 8
Saints (taking time off to wash Mora's feet and basque in the glory of
        7-0 start)  Just win baby! :)
Falcons
Rams 
The team that I cannot type for fear of my fingers rotting off in disgust
Hint: they have a two digit number in their team name.


-John-
Geaux Saints!

P.S.
J.J. whats'up ?
Haven't heard back from you.
From: aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Are the Bears 2 players away from the Super Bowl?
Date: 16 Aug 92 18:41:01 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <ddrumm.05t8@amiganet.chi.il.us>, ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel D
rumm) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.062046.82120@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
>(ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI) writes:
>>In article <169bboINNavp@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, mgriffin@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Mark
>Grif
>>
>>fin) writes:
>>>wwr@calmasd.prime.com writes:
>>>
>>>>I need an impartial person's opinion on this one.
>>>
>>>>      Am I crazy, or are the Bears about 2 players away from a return to the
>>>>Super Bowl?
>>>
>>>Oh yes, they only need two players, but I think their names are Butkus and
>>>Sayers ;-().
>>>
>>>--
>>>.   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>.
>>>Mark Griffin, Sys Admin, Fort Hays State University      |It is always better
>t
>>
>>o
>>>Internet:mgriffin@matt.ksu.ksu.edu Bitnet:mgriffin@ksuvm |do, than be done
>to.
>>>.   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .   .
>>.
>>
>>    Hmmmm... I don't know. In my opinion the Bears are the most overrated team
>>    in the NFL. Most of there key players are old. The surest thing is
>>    Anderson. I am still not sold on Harbaugh. However, I still think that the
>>    Bears can make it to the playoffs, thanks to the talent level in the NFC
>>    central. A record of 12-4 in the NFC central is equivalent to 9-7 in the
>>    NFC east. But you may disagree with that.
>>
>>    Malik...
>
>
>Oh, come on, give it a rest. Take a look at the Bears record over the last few
>years and tell me why they are overrated. You said yourself they will most
>likely make the playoffs. Sounds like your football knowledge is the thing that
>is overrated.
>
    I didn't say that the Bears are a bad team, I said they are overrated.
    Yes, I did say that the Bears will probably make the playoffs but I
    explained why and here it is again: THEIR DIVISION IS WEAK. They have the
    luxury of playing the Packers, Bucks, and Vikes twice every year. Added to
    this they have the other weak conference (AFC Central) on the menu this
    year. One more thing, If I am right about this matter that doesn't mean I
    am knowledgable. It is so obvious, you don't need a rocket scientist
    ti figure it out.

    Malik...
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From: gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy)
Subject: Re: Rice to holdout for the year? (So sez
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:18:10 GMT

In article <l927v6INN3v0@cronkite> andy@misha.central.sun.com writes:
#The NFL claims they will hold
#a draft next year.  That will never hold up in court.

There is no reason to suspect it won't hold up. Even now the NFL is
drafting people WHO AREN'T IN THE UNION yet. This as true before. When
a player signs, they agree to the legality of the draft, the owners
can simply put the same language in the contract. 

A draft after the expiration of the contract is just as legal as
before, since those being drafted never signed the contract. 


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From: mcs@fps.com (Mike Sanfratello)
Subject: Re: New rules
Organization: CRAY Research
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:06:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.170459.16641@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John Turman) writes:
>
>No you have it all wrong, having an extra long, extra stiff shaft on your
>driver is what impresses women, honest.
>
>John T.
>-- 

Oh gawd, give me a break.....
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Washington Redskins - Rypien Finally Signed!
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:19:20 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center

In rec.sport.football.pro, tf0y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Todd Harris Fletcher) writes:
>
>>Rypien is now NFL's second highest paid player, and he received the largest
>
>That is wrong.  At best, he is the third highest.  Joe Montana and Dan
>Marino both make more than him.

According to the Washington Post, 8/12/92, Miami's Dan Marino makes
around $4.4 million and San Francisco's Joe Montana makes $3.25 million.  

Rypien's contract calls for $3 million base salary plus $350,000 incentive 
package for total of $3.35 million which puts Rypiens ahead of Montana.  
That is, if Rypien has another great year.

Rypien is believed to have gotten an incentive package that includes
an additional:
    $10,000 for every victory he starts;
   $100,000 for leading the NFL in quarterback rating, with increments
	    down to $30,000 for 10th place
    $60,000 for leading the NFC in quarterback rating, with increments
	    down to $35,000 for fifth place
   $125,000 for being starter in a Super Bowl victory
   $100,000 for being the Super Bowl MVP

I should have explained the incentive package in my earlier posting.
My apologies.

My guess is that Rypien can get an additional $335,000 in incentive
bonuses for a total of $3.35 million this season.  Here is how:

    - The Redskins plays 16 regular season games, so the Redskins should 
      get at least 10 victories (very conservative guess). 
      Hence, Rypien gets $100,000 minimum.

    - Rypien probably will rate 3rd in both quarterback ratings.
      Hence, $70,000 for NFL and $47,500 for NFC.

    - The Redskins naturally are going to win the Super Bowl. :-)
      Hence, Rypien gets $125,000.

			 $100,000  (10 victories)
			   70,000  (3rd in NFL rating)
			   47,500  (3rd in NFC rating)
			  125,000  (for starting in Super Bowl)
			----------
			 $335,000  total incentive bonuses


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 Steve Williams                           swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil
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From: rkn3u@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (R. Keith Norwood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bronco Tidbits
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:16:50 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Aug17.220950.28754@colorado.edu> davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.192431.11468@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rkn3u@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (R. Keith Norwood) writes:
>>So what is the deal with Moore in Denver?  Having followed him in college, I 
>>know what he is capable of but drafting Maddux in the first round wasn't a 
>>good sign.  He is playing extremely well but Reeves is notorious for his "my  
>>way or the highway" philosophy.  Can someone in Bronco country tell me the 
>>scoop.
>
>Here is all I know:
>
>He spent all of last year on the taxi squad.  He went to WLAF to get a chance
>to play over the summer and was beat out by some guy and only played a few
>downs.  I'd say right now he has a chance to be the #3 guy but I don't think
>he could ever be a started in Denver.  Perhaps he will be Maddox' backup when
>Elway retires.

Okay grant he didn't play in the WLAF but I think it is a mistake to
write him off.  Based on on-field performance, he's got to backup Elway.
If your expecting a 20 year old rookie to be #2, then denver is in trouble.
Elway regularly gets hurt for a couple games which means that #2 will get
some playing time.

Keith
>
>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: sheppard@heart.med.uth.tmc.edu (Alan Sheppard)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Ty Detmer and other Heisman winners
Date: 19 Aug 1992 20:45:34 GMT
Reply-To: sheppard@heart.med.uth.tmc.edu (Alan Sheppard)

Ron Brown is the Democratic national committee chairman. I think you mean Tim 
Brown out of Notre Dame.  There was a Ron Brown that played for the Rams.  
Another Heisman winner was Andre Ware out of the University of Houston now 
with the Detroit Lions( headed toward the Ohio Glory of the World League if 
he doesn't start playing better).
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From: eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett)
Subject: Re: the trade rumors
Organization: Abode Computer Services
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 00:16:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.1541.14950@execnet> "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com> writes:
>
>Yet trades like this still happen. How about a #1 to the Colts
>for Chris Chandler? It turned out to be the 2nd pick in the draft!
>The Bucaneers had to know that the pick would be a prime one.
>Finally the Colts are on the right side of a trade! Another bad one
>they made was Rison+Hinton to Atlanta so they could select Jeff George.

Everyone one of those trades was pretty bad, with the exception of getting
Jeff George. Losing Rison and Hinton (two very good offensive performers) was
bad because George didn't have Hinton there to block and they didn't have
Rison who could catch, but George has a ton of ability and will be a very good
QB once he has an offense around him that can produce.

Eric


-- 
Mars is essentially in the same orbit... somewhat the same distance from the
Sun, which is very important. We have seen pictures where there are canals,
we believe, and water. If there is water, that means there is oxygen. If
oxygen, that means we can breathe. -- Vice President Dan Quayle
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From: UC516349@mizzou1.missouri.edu (The Pseudo Edge)
Subject: Re: Cincinnati Wide Receivers... who's hurt?
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:49:11 GMT
X-Posted-From: mizzou1.missouri.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

 Brown. I thought he suffered a neck injury?
And that he had it operated on a few weeks ago.
 
Wayne
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From: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Worst Rules in NFL
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 23:31:41 GMT

In article <65913@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P) writes:
>I'm just curious as to what the opinions are out there as to the absolute
>SINGLE worst rule the NFL currently has.

To me the most irrational rule is the one that awards the ball to the
defense when the ball is fumbled forward into and out of the end zone.
I'm not sure what the *RIGHT* thing to do here is, but automatically
awarding it to the defense is a leap with a rationale that escapes me.

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From: chf0@newshost.gte.com (Curtis Fennell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dolphins vs Broncos - thoughts
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:54:42 GMT
Reply-To: chf0@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA

In article <1992Aug18.161946.20492@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu>, ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad) writes:
|> >	Troy Vincent played in his first game in a 'Phins uniform and
|> >was pretty much invisible until late in the fourth quarter, when he
|> >broke up 2 passes and nearly intercepted one.  
|> 
|> But "invisible" is exactly what you want a CB to be.  Daryl Green of the
|> Redskins is invisible most every game because no one dares throw
|> the ball to the man he's covering.  When he becomes visible, as
|> in last year's Dallas game, it's usually bad news.

Well, I'm not sure that I agree 100%.  I think a CB should be
invisible *most* of the time and highly visible a little of the time.
Like Daryl Green during the Super Bowl.

|> Therefore, I read your above description of Vincent as: "he played well
|> until the fourth quarter, then his coverage lapsed."

Well, the Dolphins play zone pass defense almost exclusively and the
two passes Vincent was involved in looked like they were made against
a zone defense, so I wouldn't say his coverage lapsed.  

I do think that he played a good game - I didn't see him get beat
at all (unlike Vestee Jackson) and I think he can do nothing but help
the Dolphins.  The only play that I noticed that *might* have been his
fault was when he let the receiver run right by him on Denver's 54 yd
pass completion late in the 1st half.  But I think that he was
expecting help from the safety (Jarvis Williams) and that it was
Williams' fault for getting there late, not Vincent's for not
covering. I think Vincent was right where he was supposed to be.

I think Vincent will be an outstanding addition to our defense.

-- 
Curt "I always pick the Dolphins - even against Buffalo!"  Fennell
			DOLFAN in New England.             
'72 Dolphins - The perfect team in the perfect season - 17-0
From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer Update
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:41:00 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

In article <1992Aug17.020916.9284@uwm.edu>, pape@miller.cs.uwm.edu writes...

>All in all, they looked about as bad as they used to about 4 or 5 years ago.
>I'm preparing myself for a loooooooong season......... 

Don't panic.  Please, remain calm.

First, lots of key players are either recently signed and played 
little or not at all, or have minor injuries and didn't play.  
Examples: Tony Bennett, Lester Archambeau, Rich Moran, Tony Mandarich 
Bryce Paup, Johnny Holland.

Second, the Pack should get some help when Ruettgers, Noble, and 
Buckley sign.

Third, you should have been prepared for a long season for 6 months 
already.

John G. Heim                                 Email:  heim@macc.wisc.edu

"I've got the best diet coach in the world."
                         - Jerry Kramer about Vince Lombardi
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Terminology question
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:26:45 GMT

In article <92232.134432343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> 343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (William Grant) writes:
>    This brings an interesting question.  WHY don't some pro team use a
>wishbone type of offense.  Teams like San Fran or Philadelphia would be
>perfect for this type of offense.  A good scrambling quarterback,  and
>3 running backs.  You wouldn't even need 3 huge name backs,  just 3
>'little better than average' (ambigious as hell I know!) backs.  It could
>work.  It does for some college teams.  Any other opinions??

There is too much speed in the front sevens  around the league  to
safely run the bone and expect your QB to make it through the sea-
son, especially at LB.  Picture,  in your mind, running a wishbone
play,  hanging on to the ball  until that last second,  on Derrick
Thomas', LT's, or Cornelius Bennet's side of the field.  Ouch!
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From: ded@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu (nod sivad)
Subject: Re: Terminology question
Reply-To: ded@aplcen (nod sivad)
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 16:09:18 GMT

>
>What I mean is that the name seems confusing. It would make more sense
>to have the quarterback, then the halfback and then the fullback, right?
>

In the original "T" formation, and I presume the single wing and other
precursors, it was logically done as you descibe above: quarter, half, full.
Of course, no one (PRO) uses 3 running backs anymore.  One half
back is usually a flanker and the other is often an H-back, leaving only
one pure running back.

Anyway, in the long ago past, the halfbacks were usually fast guys and the 
fullback was the big guy, so in the modern era it seems people have taken 
to calling "big bruising backs" fullbacks and fast guys halfbacks, without 
regard to where they line up.

				me
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From: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu)
Subject: NFL stats
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:44:03 GMT


Can anyone tell me if a players career stats. are just for the regular
season, or do they include how they went in the pre-season as well??

Thanks

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  |  Kevin Lu                              | Monash University             |
  |  Email: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au  | Clayton, Victoria             |
  |                                        | Australia                     |
 
   
   

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From: pranav@evolving.com (Pranav Vakil)
Subject: BRONCOS QB's
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:44:15 GMT
Organization: Evolving Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

The Broncos have solved their QB situation.  Yesterday, they waived Steve 
Pellure.  This leaves them with John Elway, Tommy Maddox, and Shawn Moore.  
Moore will be out until the final preseason game. He is recovering from a 
slight shoulder injury.  Expect Elway to play 2 to 3 quarters against Dallas 
on Saturday.  Maddox will play out the rest of the game.  

--Pranav
  (Buffs, Broncos, Nuggets, Rockies)

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From: alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad)
Subject: Re: Chargers 20, Patriots 10
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 04:19:54 GMT

In article <oeXeyxG00WDKQ2kMhP@andrew.cmu.edu> Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Eric Dieniemy and Marion Butts each scored a TD....for the Chargers
>
>great, but what we *really* want to know is: how did Humphries look? Or
>did they start Gagliano?
>
>--Vernon.

I just saw this in the paper, but I think Humphries didn't even play.  He needs
to adjust to the system, you know...

Joel Alvstad
St. Olaf College
Northfield, MN
alvstad@stolaf.edu

I bleed purple.
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Suggested trades for the Cowboys.
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:23:50 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <20620@optima.cs.arizona.edu> dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal) writes:
>In article <1992Aug15.084043.29211@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI) writes:
>    2. With the Chargers:
>        Again Noonan or Cassilas + (so-so) to get OLB/MLB J Seau.
>Yes, Seau is young and good.  Noonan or Casillas suck.

Saying this shows how little you know of either player.

>    5. With the Chargers:
>        [WARNING: this trade is rated PC for Potentially Contraversial]
>        Beuerlein for Seau. This is the second time I suggest this trade. I
>Let's see, the Cowboys got Beuerlein for a middle round draft pick, but
>they will trade him to the Chargers for a stud linebacker.

What does this have to do with the trade?  Oh, I see, nothing.  The fact that
Beuerlein came for a fourth rounder doesn't mean that's what he's worth.
He's worth a heck of a lot more, especially to a team that has lost its
starting QB for the year -- a QB that wasn't as good as Beuerlein anyway.
San Diego would be worse without Seau, but without a QB they're *nothing*.
Very few teams have enough talent to make up for the loss of a starting QB.
The Eagles did, last year, and San Francisco, too; but on the other hand,
neither one of them made it to the playoffs.  The Cowboys only did because
they had Beuerlein at backup.

Daniel Welch
----
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Never know just where I'll land --
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From: therrien@harris.mlb.semi.harris.com (Patty Therrien)
Subject: Re: A good laugh for Fin fans
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:21:52 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

In article <1992Aug20.153357.28591@colorado.edu> davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood) writes:
>
>Just a quick note on Sammie Smith.  He is practicing at last and is expected
>to play some against Dallas.  Finally, we'll get to see what we got.

An injury prone running back with a talent for fumbling.

-- 
Patricia Therrien (Patty)	 |Internet therrien@harris.mlb.semi.harris.com
		    "Some folks see a bird's eye view  
   			  Others haven't got a clue" 
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From: mbrown@wam.umd.edu (Michael A. Brown)
Subject: Fantasy League Filled...Thanks
Originator: mbrown@rac2.wam.umd.edu
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:13:21 GMT

Thanks to everybody who responded about joining my FFL.
The league is filled now.

-Michael

-- 
-Michael A. Brown, University of Maryland
 Internet:  mbrown@wam.umd.edu

"The measure of a mind's evolution is its acceptance of the unacceptable."
From: tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: New York Giants
Date: 16 Aug 92 09:05:24 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Aug16.031647.20795@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, kevinlu@yoyo.cc.mona
sh.edu.au (Kevin Lu) writes:
>
>Hello, does anyone have any info regarding the Giants?
>
>
>Thanks..
>
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>  |  Email: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au  | Clayton, Victoria             |
>  |                                        | Australia                     |
>
>
>
>
>--
>
Like what, that Simms sucks?
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