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From: egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: Vaseline Nail Hardener
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:57:33 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

In article <1993Jan7.192004.7351@devildog.att.com>, jdalin@devildog.att.com (Jimmy Dalin) writes:
> In article <15362.2b4c0c77@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>>
>>
>>	There is a new product put out by Vaseline which may be of interest
>>to classical guitarists.  It is a hand lotion which is GUARANTEED to harden
>>fingernails by 30%.  I have not tried this out yet, but I inteed to purchase
>>it soon.
>>
>>BrianE
> 
> Is that using standard Rockwell B or C measurements?


	The product is called:  Vaseline Hand and Nail.
	Any questions concerning the product should be directed to the number
	given on the container:  1-800-743-8640.

BrianE
From: egras@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Vaseline Nail Hardener
Date: 7 Jan 93 10:56:55 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics



	There is a new product put out by Vaseline which may be of interest
to classical guitarists.  It is a hand lotion which is GUARANTEED to harden
fingernails by 30%.  I have not tried this out yet, but I inteed to purchase
it soon.

BrianE
From: stolcke@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Andreas Stolcke)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Barrueco hits the big time!
Date: 12 Jan 1993 05:38:47 GMT
Organization: International Computer Science Institute, Berkeley, CA, U.S.A.
Reply-To: stolcke@icsi.Berkeley.EDU (Andreas Stolcke)
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I was just treated to an unexpected guitar performance while watching
TV commercials.  Manuel Barrueco playing Asturias in the back of a
Lexus LS-whatever.  The idea being how quiet and smooth a ride it is.
Check it out!

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1947 Center St., Suite 600, Berkeley, CA 94704	(510) 642-4274 ext. 126
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
From: massimo@cui.unige.ch (DEFRANCESCO Massimo)
Subject: Vivaldi's concerti
Reply-To: massimo@cui.unige.ch
Organization: University of Geneva
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:49:40 GMT


What is the best collection of guitar transcriptions of Vivaldi's concerti?

I listened to several Romero(s) and one William's recording, but none is
worth the price. 

I happen to like William's, but it's a pity that the guitar is too much 
covered by the orchester. Each Romero recording I listened to has one or 
two pleasant interpretations, but the rest is mediocre. Furthermore
there is a lot of overlapping between the different recordings. 
To get the whole suite of concerti one should buy 4 or 5 CD's and pick 
2 or 3 concerti from each one, which is both impractical and 
a waste of money.

Any suggestions?


Massimo.


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From: prichard@mksol.dseg.ti.com (John C Prichard III)
Subject: Re: Barrueco hits the big time!
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:21:15 GMT

In <1itlh7$2vo@agate.berkeley.edu> stolcke@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU (Andreas Stolcke) writes:

>Manuel Barrueco playing Asturias in the back of a
>Lexus LS-whatever.  
>Check it out!
>-- 
>Andreas Stolcke					stolcke@icsi.berkeley.edu

SAW IT! Sounded good too! But no way could he have kept his balance the way
they were showing him (standard position with foot up).  Going around those
turns at the speed they were going -- he would have to be propped up with
pillows.
John Prichard               email:prichard@mksol.dseg.ti.com
From: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu (Mark Basinski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: Tab to Vivaldi's Concerti
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:38:12 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.classical.guitar
Organization: Univ. of Arizona

In article <1993Jan12.085430.4853@wkuvx1.bitnet>, easteee@wkuvx1.bitnet
wrote:
> 
> Why is there never any classical music transcribed in here??!
>  
   I'd guess that it is because most classical guitarists are quite 
comfortable with standard music notation, though many are also adept
at tab (especially useful for reading renaissance lute music in it's
original form). Also most pieces of music beyond a very simple level
either require fairly sophisticated rhythmic notations in the tab
(as in baroque lute tab) or don't really work in tab or are just
too long and complex to bother attempting to put into tab...
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From: alopez-o@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alex Lopez-Ortiz)
Subject: Re: Vivaldi's concerti
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:20:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.094940.2040@news.unige.ch>, massimo@cui.unige.ch
(DEFRANCESCO Massimo) writes:
> 
> What is the best collection of guitar transcriptions of Vivaldi's
> concerti?
> 
> I listened to several Romero(s) and one William's recording, but none is
> worth the price. 
> 
> I happen to like William's, but it's a pity that the guitar is too much 
> covered by the orchester. Each Romero recording I listened to has one or
> > two pleasant interpretations, but the rest is mediocre. Furthermore
> there is a lot of overlapping between the different recordings. 
> To get the whole suite of concerti one should buy 4 or 5 CD's and pick 
> 2 or 3 concerti from each one, which is both impractical and 
> a waste of money.
> 
> Any suggestions?

I like Alexandre Lagoya's recordings for Angel Records....

Alex


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Department of Computer Science                      University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario                                                   Canada
From: fabbri@s7.msi.umn.edu (Mauricio Fabbri)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Re: Segovia collection.
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:34:03 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In passing, is there any item of the Segovia collection which
includes the whole Suite in d-minor from Robert  de Visee'?
             ^^^^^
I remember I had an old vinyl record from Segovia which included
the whole d-minor Suite (followed up by the Variations on a Theme
by Mozart, by F.Sor).

Yours,
Fabbri.
__________________________________________________________________________
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Civil and Mineral Eng. Dept., and   | Space Research Institute (INPE)
Minnesota Supercomputer Institute   | Lab. for Materials and Sensors (LAS)
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From: wjin@cs.uh.edu (W. Woody Jin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: (Wanted) guitar figures
Date: 11 Jan 1993 22:46:42 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
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If you have any classical guitar figures in any computer formats
(postscript, Xwindow bitmap, gif, ....etc.), or if you know
where they are available, could you share them with me ?

Thanks.

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From: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu (Mark Basinski)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical.guitar
Subject: Tablature (was Re: Tab to Vivaldi's Concerti)
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:09:19 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.classical.guitar
Organization: Univ. of Arizona

In article <1993Jan12.194857.20873@news.columbia.edu>,
dbl10@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Dominic B LoTempio) wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 	I have a better question: why doesn't there exist a music notation
> program that can display tablature???
> 
> 	Sure, its great how people manually type up transscription on the
> other guitar subs, but wouldn't it be great if you could just post a
> UUencoded data file for a program such as Finale or Encore but that could
> display tab???
> 
> 	This has bothered me so badly that I am thinking of writing a
> small program that can read .MID files and extract the notes into tablature.

   Someone correct me if I'm wrong, because I haven't worked with Finale
and the people I know who do aren't guitarists, but I was just reading 
reviews of various notational programs, and in a comparison of MusicProse 
to Finale (both use the Enigma engine), a discussion of Finale's greater
flexibility to set up unusual staffs showed the Finale window that allows
you to specify a staff with *6* (or more!) lines, AND there is a little
check-box that says "Tablature..." I'll have to go over to see a friend of
mine who has Finale and check this out, but that looks pretty promising to
me. Anybody else ever seen this?

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From: pmy@vivaldi.acc.virginia.edu (Pete Yadlowsky)
Subject: Mimaroglu revisited
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:24:34 GMT


The CD is called 'Criminal Record', on Finnadar. Includes String
Quartet#4 (with narration/recitative by Janice Siegel), Wings of the
Delirious Demon, a couple of short solo piano things and some early
tape/electronic stuff. 


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From: pmcq@esse11.dei.unipd.it (Diego Liziero 340364/IL)
Subject: NEEDED info. Organ's Competitions
Organization: Universita' di Padova, Italia
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:36:13 GMT



	Does anyone know if there are some important

	organ's Competitions in your country?

	Can you tell me the modality to participate in?

			~~~~~~	

	Please e-mail any answer to

		pmcq@sabrina.dei.unipd.it
	or
		pmcq@paola.dei.unipd.it

Thanks ! ! !				Diego.

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From: velde@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Francois R. Velde)
Subject: Re: Bruckner
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 16:49:29 GMT

In article <1095@clbull.frcl.bull.fr> freja@mip3035.Berkeley.EDU (Etienne Frejaville) writes:
>
> I know at least one famous character who seemed to dislike Bruckner : Paul Klee 
> He said about him : "On ne monte pas au paradis avec un train de marchandises"
> which means roughly (excuse my english) : "One doesn't go to heaven by a goods train"

or "a freight train".  Charming remark, with which I agree. Put me in the 
"doesn't care much for Bruckner" column.

From: chrisr@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Chris Robson)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:22:29 GMT
Subject: Re: So exactly what's wrong with Bolero, anyway?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical

|This is simply a Build to a Climax,
|with nothing really terrific at the end, just this sudden collapse.
|In other words, a fifteen-minute fuck.
|
|Roger
|
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  Boy - I'd love to read your liner notes for the last act of Tristan &
Isolde!

			Chris. xxx.



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From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: Bruckner (was: Re: Best finale)
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:29:41 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.013154.5032@spang.Camosun.BC.CA> dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker) writes:
>cb@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster) writes:
>: Michael J Valinis:

>:    >there have been such postings here lately!) would think that
>:    >old Anton must be the best of the "three B's". (...)

>: Volker Kleinschmidt:

>:    The three B's are Johann Sebastian, Ludwig and Johannes. Does
>:    anyone see Anton in here?

>: Unless B is just a statistically common initial letter for last names,
>: it seems to loom disprortionately large among composers.  One publisher
>: even has a series of biographies, each of which features a huge B on the
>: cover: in addition to the traditional three, there are Berlioz, Bartok,
>: Berg, Bruckner, and Boulez.  The B section of my personal phone
>: directory has always needed many supplemental pages (and would even
>: without family members).  I guess a B name just indicates something
>: special about a person; Deryck Barker, wouldn't you agree?
>                              ^ (no 'c' actually Chris)
>But of course, it's one of those things you're either born with or....

>BTW you forgot Busoni....

Actually, the 3 B's began as Bach, Beethoven, Berlioz!

Later, Bruckner became the third B, esp. in writings such as Halm's
"Two Cultures of Music" (Bach representing the fugue-culture, Beethoven
representing the sonata-culture, Bruckner a synthesis; it's not a bad
book despite all that...).

Brahms is a relatively recent substitution...

Roger
From: acid+@cs.cmu.edu (Christopher Colby)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Re: Best CD of Mussorgsky "Pictures ..."
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:19:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C0GGsG.BqJ.1
Distribution: na
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1if4chINN1gb@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> korkosz@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Richard Korkosz) writes:
>I agree with Steve and enthusiastically recommend Richter's recital
>performance of the "Pictures ...".  For a modern recording in better sound,
>I enjoy Yefim Bronfman's performance on SONY.  I have heard the Pletnev, and
>much prefer Bronfman's performance.

Could you elaborate on this comparison?  Also, how would you compare
Bronfman with Ashkenazy and Dichter (the other two versions I know, both of
which I find *far* inferior overall to Richter and Pletnev)?  Finally, does
Bronfman stick to the letter of the score?  (Pletnev does not.)  I'm
wondering whether I should buy.  Thanks.

-chris
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From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: liner notes
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig)
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:43:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.011236.1440@cgh.cgh.com> paul@cgh.cgh.com (Paul Homchick) writes:
>roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) wrote:
>>Oh, c'mon, Paul.  Can't you recognize self-parody when you see it?  
>>Calling Total Serialism (which was on the skids in 1953-4 already)
>>the high point of Western music is something that can't possibly be 
>>taken seriously by anyone, and couldn't even have been taken 
>>seriously back then.  Now, given Scelsi's own rather strange history/
>>temporal development, the text, hilarious as it is, makes a certain
>>sense on some level.  On the other hand, it makes you wonder whether 
>>the writer likes the music...

>>Who wrote that?

>The recording in question is of Marianne Schroeder playing the "Suites
>Nr. 9 and Nr. 10 for Piano" by Scelsi on a Hat Hut CD.

Hat Hut?  Is that like Weenie Barn?

>The liner notes are by Heinz-Klaus Metzger, as translated from the
>German by Peter Wortsman.

AHA!

>It never crossed my mind that anyone (with the possible exception of
>Peter Schickele) would produce liner notes that made fun of the music
>on the recording.  However, when viewed from such a perspective, the
>notes and the music make a lot more sense than they do when taken
>straight. :-) I still have my suspicions tho, that all of this was in
>dead earnest.

On the other hand, it could be the translation.  I'd have to see
the original, but believe me, I've seen some exquisite gaffes in
liner notes.  And I'm in a position to know, having translated 
German notes into English, translated my own notes into German, 
and had my own notes translated by others.

Roger

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From: lc@apolo.fct.unl.pt (Luis Correia (El Grande))
Subject: Bach Art of Fugue
Organization: Universidade Nova de Lisboa, PORTUGAL
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 09:58:49 GMT

Being interested in getting Bach's Art of Fugue I need opinions.
It seems that this is a work not written for any instrumentation in particular.
Am I right?
What do you reccomend ?
Did Glenn Gould reccord it ?
Thanks in advance.

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From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: Re: Saint-Saens' Organ Symphony
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:12:19 GMT

In article 19001@husc15.harvard.edu,  blom@husc15.harvard.edu writes:
>Does anyone have any (preferably DDD) CD recordings of Saint-Saens' Organ
>Symphony (No. 3) to recommend?  I'm not a regular here, but I think I remember
>some discussion a while back.  Sorry if this question is too commonly asked.
>
>Thanks alot.
>Eric Blom
>Harvard U

Berlin Philharmonic, James Levine conducting ... this CD also has Dukas's
"Sorcerer's Apprentice" ... this is on the DG label.


Bob

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From: black@ll.mit.edu (Jerry Glomph Black)
Newsgroups: rec.music.classical
Subject: Classic CD Magazine: any satisfied customers?
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:18:41 GMT
Organization: flentrop

I paid $59.95 for a subscription about a year ago, have received 4 complete
issues.  I DID get a form letter from the US distributor that the've had
a lot of complaints like this, so it must be the US Post Office's fault!

I wrote to the ClassicCD office and told them what I thought of this notion...

What a crock.... 
The (produced in England) Magazine is excellent, but expensive at $15./copy!

Any other experiences out there?
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From: mccomt@aix.rpi.edu (Todd Michel McComb)
Subject: Re: Tower Records
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:57:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.012122.26919@informix.com> Rika Tsitsinia writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.072759.8437@news.acns.nwu.edu> chris kelsey writes:
>>hate to disappoint y'all, but...  tower's "blow-out" this year is merely
>>their regular sale prices, but all labels at once.  and if your local tower
>>is like the one in chicago, they spent the month of december marking *UP*
>>most of the premium disks by $1 - $2.

>The sales are real; they don't mark up anything the previous
>month in order to put it on "sale" today.

I believe the point of the original posting is that many labels *have* gone
up in price for the new year.  See the earlier discussion of Harmonia Mundi's
massive price increase.

>Not only that, but for full-price CDs ($13.99-$14.99) the sale is much better
>than their regular sales.

If only that *were* full-price!  The labels I buy are now up to $18.99+ at
Tower's regular prices.

>You may find $1 not that important, but I bought 21 CDs today alone.

Must be nice....

T. M. McComb

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From: dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker)
Subject: Re: greatest conductors: why?
Organization: Camosun College, Victoria B.C, Canada
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Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:25:31 GMT

ucap22w@ucl.ac.uk (Martin S T Watts) writes:
: dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker) writes:
: 
: >alexander.inglis@canrem.com ("alexander inglis") writes:
: >: To: dbarker@spang.Camosun.BC.CA (Deryk Barker)
: >: 
: >:   >: Mahler First, and on and on....  Someday I hope to indulge myself with
: >:   >: his BSO Mahler Ninth.  I first have to be able to justify owning a third
: >:   >: copy of that work, though.
: >: 
: >: DB>No justification required. I own 17 versions....{
: >: 
: >: Now I know why you went into Computer Sciences ... to acquire the skills
: >: to catalogue all that Mahler! <g>
: 
: >Not to mention to 50+ Eroicas....
: 
: Do you not think, Deryk, that 50+ Eroicas is ever so *slightly* self-indulgent?
: I mean, how do you possibly find the time to get to know them all properly, or
: even most of them. I thought I was being fairly extravagant owning four, and any
: *one* of them would keep me happy for a long while, such is the quality of the
: music. None of my business really, admittedly, but I'd be interested to know,
: since you proffer the information.

Self-indulgent? Nah.... Actually I feel it part of my respinsibility
as a reviewer to be familiar with a number of versions of the standard
repertoire, but I confess that I probably have more Eroicas than
anything else, because of my feelings about the work and its
importance. Some of them on obviously spends more time with than
others. We all have our little foibles, n'est-ce pas?

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