HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: geertj@ica.philips.nl (Geert Jan de Groot)
Subject: Configuring mh for mail from 'inside' the domain
Organization: Philips Consumer Electronics, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:55:51 GMT

Hi,

I just installed mh6.8, and discovered the MH config I thought to be right
has a problem. As found in the documentation, MH was built for an environment
where `hostname` returns the FQDN, and mail is sent to come from a certain
host inside the domain, i.e.
domainname = ica.philips.nl
My workstation = filter

When I send mail, it seems to come from 'geertj@filter', or, after adding
localdomain in ~mh/lib/mtstailor, from 'geertj@filter.ica.philips.nl'.
However, I want it to come from 'geertj@ica.philips.nl', i.e. from inside
the domain, without hostname.

I remember doing some very ugly surgery in mh6.7, and I hope there is a 
cleaner way. I studied the (thousands of) options, but so far have not found
the right knob to twist. Is there an easy way?

version: MH 6.8 #3[UCI]  (ica06) of Mon Dec 21 02:30:08 MET 1992
options: [BIND] [BSD42] [DBM] [LOCKF] [MHRC] [MIME]
         [MORE='"/usr/local/bin/less"'] [NTOHLSWAP] [SENDMTS] [SUN40]
         [TYPESEG=void] [TYPESIG=int]

Thanks,

Geert Jan
From: mrose@dbc.mtview.ca.us (Marshall Rose)
Subject: Re: MIME RFC nit????
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Mime-Version: 1.0
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
Reply-To: mh-users@ics.uci.edu
Date: 28 Dec 92 03:57:54 GMT

It's a (known) typo in the RFC...

/mtr
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mh
From: mrl@uai.com (Mark R. Ludwig)
Subject: Re: Differences invoking sendmail or using socket (localhost,SMTP)
Organization: Universal Analytics, Inc., Torrance (LA), CA
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:29:38

In article <9212230406.AA05356@cognition.pa.dec.com> vixie@pa.dec.com (Paul A Vixie) writes:

|> i tell people to use mhmail, which is almost as good as UCB Mail.

I take it you replace the various mail programs delivered by the
vendor (/bin/mail, /usr/bin/mail, /usr/ucb/mail, /usr/bin/mailx,
/usr/ucb/mailx, etc.) with mhmail.  I'm not sure of all the names of
all the mail programs which all the vendors deliver.  I'm not even
sure how to _find_ them all.  I think this is risky; it's very
important for cron, et al. to be able to send me or any other user
mail when required or requested....

|> i've also used a /usr/lib/sendmail replacement that just knows how
|> to send mail via "send" and "post" and their friends.  this is enough
|> to get UCB Mail working.  perhaps MH should include something like that?

MH does.  John made mention of it.  It's present in MH-6.7.2, but I
don't know which release marked its debut.

I'm hearing lots of _opinions_ about what to do, and not much
rationale or hard facts.  Please understand: I value the opinions you
and others present and _assume_ based on your net.stature that you
have good reasons and plenty of experience which caused you to form
your opinions.  I'm just not convinced that the situations you
experienced are the same as what I face.

Perhaps we can organize a comparison of the two approaches?  I'll
formulate a comparison and start another thread suitable for
shredding.$$
-- 
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"A computer is one of life's joys; it follows simple rules.  Just like
 children, adults need toys, only we like to call them 'tools.'" -- Dave Ross
From: swispl@solomon.technet.sg (SW International)
Subject: timezones
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 01:24:35 GMT

1) Sorry, I don't know where to post this. Since timezones are used in
	mail-headers, I thought this is a place as good as any...

2) I'm looking for a list of *official* timezones, as valid in mail
	and/or elsewhere. Is there a ftp-site for this?

3) thx alot

--
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    14, Science Park Drive           | you could put a tail on it and
    Singapore Science Park           | call it a weasel".. Black Adder
    Singapore 0511                   | 
    Tel: (65) 778-0066               |
    Fax: (65) 777-9401               | swispl@solomon.technet.sg
From: povlphp@uts.uni-c.dk (Povl H. Pedersen)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: mbox file format wanted !!!
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:20:04 GMT
Organization: UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education

Header says it all.
I want the format of the mbox file that is tandard on unix systems.
I would prefer not to parse lots of source code to find it.

thanks in advance,
Povl
-- 
Povl H. Pedersen   -   Macintosh specialist. Knows some DOS and UNIX too.
pope@imv.aau.dk    -   povlphp@uts.uni-c.dk
From: nolan@tssi.com (Michael Nolan)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: MUA that handles digests?
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 00:14:56 GMT
Organization: Tailored Software Services, Inc.
Reply-To: nolan@tssi.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.unl.edu

I now subscribe to several mailing lists that come out in digest form.

Is there a mail reader that correctly handles digests?  (ELM 2.4 doesn't
seem to.)  Ideally, what I'd like is for the MUA to behave like nn does
with digested newsgroups.
---
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Tailored Software Services, Inc.    America, at the U. S. Mint"  (Gallagher)   
Lincoln, Nebraska (402) 423-1490
From: nauen@wrair-emh1.army.mil
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: Santa?
Date: 30 Dec 1992 14:09:04 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

 <zmt8s*6I0@senga.ka.sub.org> <1992Dec22.180853.18214@elegant.com>

In <1992Dec28.151842.10346@dde.dk> pck@dde.dk (Peter Roboz Kristensen) 
writes

> I don't know if there is any top level domain specific for Greenland ?? 

Archive-name: top-level-domains
Last-modified: 1992/12/4

International Standard ISO 3166 Names
Compiled by Olivier M.J. Crepin-Leblond
email: <ocl@ic.ac.uk>
Release: 92.12.3

Domain    Country             Connection         Notes
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
GL        Greenland
From: bary@acf3.NYU.EDU (Jeffrey Bary)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: inquiry
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:26:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

Florida Institute of Technology (FIT-DOM)
   150 West University Boulevard
   Melbourne, FL 32901

   Domain Name: FIT.EDU

   Administrative Contact:
      Pannell, Deedee  (DP145)  pannell@WINNIE.FIT.EDU
      (407) 768-8000 ext. ext 7360
   Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Gallo, Michael A.  (MAG16)  gallo@ZENO.FIT.EDU
      (407) 768-8000 ext. ext 7551

   Record last updated on 27-Aug-91.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   WINNIE.FIT.EDU               192.42.239.1
   SLOPOKE.MLB.SEMI.HARRIS.COM  132.158.82.36

---------

Jeffrey Bary
Postmaster
New York University
Xref: sparky comp.mail.misc:4072 comp.mail.uucp:2403
From: dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 08:30:06 EST
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:

> In article <1992Dec19.163210.12770@becker.GTS.ORG> uucpadm@becker.gts.org wri
> >	It seems logical for sites which are Internet/UUCP
> >	gateways to declare MX records for all the systems
> >	that they publish in their pathalias map entries -
> >
> >
> >		sitex.uucp.	MX	10	mail.mysys.mydom.
> >		sitey.uucp.	MX	10	mail.mysys.mydom.
> >		...
> >
> >	I know we don't do this at my workplace, but there
> >	seems no obvious reason not to do so.
> 
> 	Most mailers are configured by default to not do DNS lookups on
> certain specified domains.  (Most notably .UUCP, .BITNET, and the
> now-gone .CSNET)  This is to save undue wear-and tear on the root
> nameservers.

Yes, but... I've come across more than a few mailers that (incorrectly)
attempt to do DNS lookup on .UUCP sites.  I've had several direct exper-
iences with failed mail in exactly this scenario.

> 	Even if this were not so, with DNS there's no way for one site
> to just "declare MX records" for .UUCP and have them be seen by just
> anyone.  _One_ site has to be declared as "authoratative" for entire
> .UUCP pseudo-domain in order for anything to work consistently.  How is
> my mailer going to know what nameserver to look at to resolve the MX
> for "becker.UUCP"?

Hmmm... some site would need to advertise itself as a top-level server
for .UUCP?  Not likely, not for free?  Or is it really all that big a
deal?  Has any site actually ~tried~ it, to show what the results would
be?  Could the MX record on a given site still be made to point to the
true best path to the UUCP-connected site?

For example, suppose UUNET declared itself the top-level server (and,
thus, only server, as .UUCP is not sub-domain-ized <ick>) for .UUCP.
If the MX record for willard.UUCP were to indicate a path of
gatech.edu!vdbsan!willard!%s, or something similar, would that not still
route mail in the exact same way that UUNET would route mail otherwise?

Mail would not need to be sent to UUNET in order to see that the route
to willard.UUCP would best be through the indicated path.  So, a tighter
link between MX/pathalias would not be necessarily a bad thing, unless
the resulting load on the system acting as the nameserver were such that
it would in fact be inpractical to implement.

What have I overlooked?

> 
> --Dave
> -- 
> System Administrator, Population Research Institute    barr@pop.psu.edu
> 	What if there was no such thing as a hypothetical question?


-- 
dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
gatech!vdbsan!willard!dawson
emory!uumind!willard!dawson
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
From: tml@tik.vtt.fi (Tor Lillqvist)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: timezones
Date: 29 Dec 92 12:47:13 GMT
Organization: Technical Research Centre of Finland, Laboratory for Information
	Processing (VTT/TIK)
NNTP-Posting-Host: tiuhti.tik.vtt.fi
In-reply-to: elsn4000@bronto.zrz.tu-berlin.de's message of 29 Dec 1992 12:07:56 GMT

>>>>> On 29 Dec 1992 12:07:56 GMT, elsn4000@bronto.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Frank Elsner) said:
> In article <BzzyL0.K8@newsserver.technet.sg> swispl@solomon.technet.sg (SW International) writes:
>>2) I'm looking for a list of *official* timezones, as valid in mail
>>	and/or elsewhere. Is there a ftp-site for this?
> Here is what I have on this topic, hope it helps.

>      -0100 WAT  West Africa Time
>      -0200 AT   Azores Time
> ...

You should definitely *not* use exotic time zone names such as these.

The official words from the Hosts Requirements RFC:

         There is a strong trend towards the use of numeric timezone
         indicators, and implementations SHOULD use numeric timezones
         instead of timezone names.  However, all implementations MUST
         accept either notation.  If timezone names are used, they MUST
         be exactly as defined in RFC-822.
 
And the timezone names in RFC822 are:

     zone        =  "UT"  / "GMT"                ; Universal Time
                                                 ; North American : UT
                 /  "EST" / "EDT"                ;  Eastern:  - 5/ - 4
                 /  "CST" / "CDT"                ;  Central:  - 6/ - 5
                 /  "MST" / "MDT"                ;  Mountain: - 7/ - 6
                 /  "PST" / "PDT"                ;  Pacific:  - 8/ - 7
                 /  1ALPHA                       ; Military: Z = UT;
                                                 ;  A:-1; (J not used)
                                                 ;  M:-12; N:+1; Y:+12
                 / ( ("+" / "-") 4DIGIT )        ; Local differential
                                                 ;  hours+min. (HHMM)

          Time zone may be indicated in several ways.  "UT" is Univer-
     sal  Time  (formerly called "Greenwich Mean Time"); "GMT" is per-
     mitted as a reference to Universal Time.  The  military  standard
     uses  a  single  character for each zone.  "Z" is Universal Time.
     "A" indicates one hour earlier, and "M" indicates 12  hours  ear-
     lier;  "N"  is  one  hour  later, and "Y" is 12 hours later.  The
     letter "J" is not used.  The other remaining two forms are  taken
     from ANSI standard X3.51-1975.  One allows explicit indication of
     the amount of offset from UT; the other uses  common  3-character

But note that the Hosts Requeirements say:

         The military time zones are specified incorrectly in RFC-822:
         they count the wrong way from UT (the signs are reversed).  As
         a result, military time zones in RFC-822 headers carry no
         information.
--
Tor Lillqvist,
working, but not speaking, for the Technical Research Centre of Finland,
Laboratory for Information Processing (VTT/TIK).
From: kbibb@maui.qualcomm.com (Ken Bibb)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: automatic mail to folders
Date: 28 Dec 92 03:44:12 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

In <1992Dec27.214418.13107@ramon.bgu.ac.il> arthur@ivory.bgu.ac.il (Arthur Goldstein) writes:

>I would like to set up a system for automatically moving mail to different
>folders for some friends who are using the Pine mail reader.  Teaching them
>to use another mailer is not a good solution for them.

>They are using the Unix system and I was thinking of writing a script that
>would read from /usr/spool/mail and based on key words extract email
>and automatically place it in specified files while leaving some mail
>in /usr/spool/mail.

>Does anyone have something already set up that I could use?

You could use the deliver package (I think I got mine from ftp.uu.net--
ask archie for the nearest site to you).  Deliver can select on a number
of criteria and do a number of different things with the email.

Alternatively, I think I was once told that pine itself will do some
basic processing...

-- 
Ken Bibb                "he heard the snow falling faintly through the
kbibb@qualcomm.com	 universe and faintly falling, like the descent of
jester@crash.cts.com     their last end, upon all the living and the dead."
				--"The Dead", James Joyce
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: davecb@nexus.yorku.ca (David Collier-Brown)
Subject: Re: Return-Receipt-To & forwarding...
Organization: York University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 18:57:36 GMT

stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:
|Even should this be true, here is a very real instance of mail being
|sent and nothing being received as an error:

|	I send mail to a system that is down. 

|	Three days go by...

|	The far end sends an error. 

|	In the intervening three
|	days, however, the disk controller of my mailhost lets the
|	smoke out of one of the smoke containers. Being Christmas Eve,
|	it isn't fixed for four days.

|	Did the mail I sent get through? No.
|	Did I get an error response? No.
|	Has this ever happened? Yes.
|	Do I treat mail as being reliable? Ha. Ha.

  I tend to assume a normal operations secedule of backups when I
discuss mailhubs.  Yes, other things can interfere with mail.  In my
case, a Dash-10 can drop through the roof of my building (I'm under a
landing slope, see) and take out everything.
  However, I'm discussing mail, not acts of god.  Problems outside
the mail system and/or protocol get dealt with by solutions outside
the system and/or protocol.

  My operator restores the backup that cron took, and the mailer
delivers the bounce message. Several days late.

  By the way, we run a 7-day expirey period, just to deal with probabalistic
latency problems like that.

--dave

-- 
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72 Abitibi Ave.,      | 
Willowdale, Ontario,  | York Postmaster and
CANADA. 416-223-8968  | occasional sendfail(8) consultant.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: davecb@nexus.yorku.ca (David Collier-Brown)
Subject: Re: Return-Receipt-To & forwarding...
Organization: York University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 18:52:07 GMT



|In article <davecb.725923251@yorku.ca> davecb@nexus.yorku.ca (David Collier-Brown) writes:
|>  Your mail may be unreliable, but mine isn't: mine uses SMTP, 

|>if skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU is losing mail, you should speak to your
|>postmaster: you're on the internet too. 

|I know you meant it as a red herring, trying to deflect the discussion
|from your ridiculous claims about mail reliability, by it is rather
|telling. If you really thought that mail was "reliable" then how could
|skyking be losing it? Your accusation that skyking is losing mail is in
|reality the admission that mail is NOT reliable. 

No, I meant it as a serious comment.  And I don't appreciate your
.plan entry:

========
[skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU] 
Login name: stanley                        In real life: I Found Chfn!
Directory: /usr/users/stanley              Shell: /bin/sh
On since: Sat Jan  2  9:51:29 PST 1993 on ttyp2 from c3d2.cs.colorado.edu
New mail received Sat Jan  2 10:54:07 PST 1993;
  unread since Fri Jan  1  7:39:38 PST 1993
Plan:
To crack every password on nexus.yorku.ca
=============

  I have already responded to the problem of user/administrator error:
you need to consider whether or not you're letting this get too personal.
I'll respond the the factual content of your scenario in another message.

--dave
-- 
David Collier-Brown,  | davecb@CCS.YorkU.CA | lethe!dave
72 Abitibi Ave.,      | 
Willowdale, Ontario,  | York Postmaster and
CANADA. 416-223-8968  | occasional sendfail(8) consultant.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: putting addresses in a canonical form
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:43:44 GMT

In an attempt to reinvent the wheel, I have written some code which
groks From: lines and attempts to convert the address into a canonical
form, so that a mail server that I am writing can guess out who
someone is despite GECOS changes and also puzzle out screwed up
addresses.

Since this is my first attempt at anything related to RFC822, I have
undoubtedly gotten things wrong. So, does anyone have a set of From:
lines with extremely funky addresses that I can use to test my code?
I'd like the entire line, including comments, i.e.

From: Greg Lindahl <gl8f@virginia.edu>
From: Greg (foo) Lindahl <gl8f@virginia.(foo)edu>
From: Greg (foo) Lindahl <gl8f@virginia. 	(foo) edu>
From: Greg "foo" Lindahl <gl8f@virginia.(foo)edu>
From: Greg "<foo>" Lindahl <gl8f@virginia.(foo)edu>
From: "Greg Lindahl" <gl8f@virginia.(foo)edu>
From: "Greg Lindahl"<gl8f@virginia.(foo)edu>
From: "Greg L\"indahl" <gl8f@virginia.(foo)edu>
From: gl8f@virginia.edu (Greg Lindahl)
From: gl8f@virginia.edu (Greg "<foo>" Lindahl)
From: gl8f@virginia.edu (Greg "<foo>")
From: gl8f@virginia.edu (Greg "<fo\"o>" Lindahl)
From: Greg "<foo>" Lindahl <"gl8f"@virginia.(foo)edu>

These examples only test comment deletion and figuring out which part
of the string is the address. My code reduces all of those strings to
"gl8f@virginia.edu", except the last, which is
"\"gl8f\"@virginia.edu".  I'd like some similar examples plus some
funky looking addresses.  Surely someone has generated a torture test
of this type?

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: bruce@sonyd1.Broadcast.Sony.COM (Bruce Lilly)
Subject: Re: Is this a known bug of sendmail or ucbmail?
Organization: Bruce Lilly
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 15:13:18 GMT
Reply-To: lilb@sony.compuserve.com (Bruce Lilly)

In article <1h7sguINNicd@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes) wrote:
>
>A user sent me a copy of a message he had received, containing the line
>	Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 13:35:01 +45722724
>which causes ucbmail to say
> N 53 scotty@cats.UCSC.EDU  Mon Dec 21 16:10  19/713   "Re: Xerox 820 word pr"
> >  54 jacques@cats.UCSC.ED  Wed Jun 22 09:27  23/912   "Re: time weirdness"
>note the weird date.  
>
>Is this some well-known bug that I haven't seen the fix for?

It's the result of feeding a bad header-- the "+45722724" is
bogus, but resembles a +hhmm time offset from UT.

The display of the date is clearly a user agent (ucbmail, in
your case) issue. Most likely the bogus field is being
interpreted as an offset of 45 hours, 722724 minutes (about a
year and a half).
-- 
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    Routers, Peripherals & Still Store,| uunet!sonyusa!sonyd1!bruce
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From: vanderli@orion (Michel van der List)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Anybody out there in Sweden/Netherlands working for Volvo?
Summary: How to mail from 'memonet'?
Keywords: MemoNet
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:43:41 GMT
Organization: Fox Chase Cancer Center

A friend of mine works for Volvo in the Netherlands and he is trying to send
some mail to me (on the internet). He is not overly familiar with the
peculiarities of the network (memonet?) he is using. I have been unable to
establish an EM address for volvo on my side, so I can't help him out to much.
Anybody out there in Sweden/Netherlands that can make sense of this message
please send me some mail.

 a d v
Thanks a
 e c n
	Michel.

-- 
--------------------+----------------------------+-----------------------------
Michel van der List |   'Dat typies hollands     | The Fox Chase Cancer Center
vanderlist@fccc.edu |        vingertje'          |      7701 Burholme Avenue
(215) 728-3660      |                            |    Philadelphia, PA  19111
From: ce349@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott M. Kempf)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
Subject: Minitel (France) Internet mail Gateway?
Date: 23 Dec 1992 14:38:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The following question has probably been brought up in this newsgroup
before-- Does anyone know of a E-Mail gateway between the French Minitel
videotex system and the Internet?...or any other E-Mail system?

Any help would be appreciated!

Scott

Scott M. Kempf 
70540.2676@CompuServe.COM
Newsgroups: comp.mail.misc
From: dowd@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (Kevin Dowd)
Subject: We're doin' it too... MIME, etc
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 05:39:43 GMT

Hi folks.  I'm glad to see that other people are looking into an all
SMTP/MIME-based solution to inter-platform (PC, MAC, UNIX, other)
enterprise-wide mail.  We've constructed a gateway'd cc:mail, microsoft
mail, unix mail, vms mail (and even profs) system with Alisa mail
PMDF and All-in-1 as the mail gateways.  Even if it worked, it would
be broken.  If you've tried to construct a similar system, you'll know
what I mean.

For my money, any gateway'd system is defective at inception.  Even if
mail flows smoothly through the gateways, you can't share other
resources, such as displays or file systems.  Imagine, on the other
hand, if every machine (PC, MAC, UNIX, other) shared some common set
of protocols for network communications, mail, displays; they could
keep to their proprietary protocols when communicating between similar
machines, but when it came time to do something "enterprise-wide,"
wouldn't it be good if they all spoke the same language?  I think so.

Theoretically, you could pick from a number of sets of protocols.  
At UTRC, we're staging a demonstration with:

  - Internet Protocols and
  - SMTP / MIME
  - X Windows
  - NFS (to an extent)
  - nntp news clients (of course)
  - DNS (for hosts)
  ..and we're planning to try integrating ISODE X.500 into one or
    two applications to see how it goes (if anyone can get all the
    way through the documentation... zzzzz)

Who else has tried gluing their enterprise together this way, and how
did it go?  My guess is that a number of people would like to know.
(We're all being dragged off into the woods by proprietary enterprise
solutions.)  Post your 2 cents or send me some return mail, and I'll
summarize the results for the group.

-Kevin
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