From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFC EAST- GET OFF IT!
Keywords: Satellite
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:54:44 GMT
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ricardo.g.irvin writes:
>(J.J.Clyde) writes:
>>(ricardo.g.irvin) writes:

>>>>>   What is the fascination with the NFC east?
>>>Defense:
>>>	the best linebackers (as a unit) the GIANTS
>>
>>YOU have GOT to be kidding.  The Giants are good, but, hands down, unanimous, 
>>case closed, the Saints have THE best LB's (as a unit, or seperately) in the 
>>game.  Pat Swilling, Ricky Jackson, Sam Mills, and Vaughn Johnson have 
>>**15** Pro-Bowl appearances between them!  Its time to introduce the NFCEPB
>>acronym to r.s.f.p --- NFC East Pea-brain Bias.

>J.J we can debate this all you want (you, from a distance, can call me what
>you want), but, as I see it the Eagles had a better Defense than the Saints
>and with a better offense it would not have been an issue, I never said
>the Saints 'D was bad.

Pea. (and I'm ever-remembering that I'm at a safe distance when I type this)  
I never said the Giants D was bad.  Your answer above to my arguement 
takes a left somewhere.  You argued that the Giants had the best LB's.  
I argue its the Saints.  I never mentioned the Eagles, offenses, etc.

>>LT is history.  Pat Swilling is the creme d'la creme in the NFL now.
>D. Thomas (K.C) is better, and he has no support (as Swilling does).

Yeah.  Thomas is REAL deprived in KC.  He's had to live with the likes
of Deron Cherry, Kevin Porter, Albert Lewis, Lloyd Burruss, Bill Maas,
Percy Snow, Dino Hackett, etc.  (Derrick *is* one of the best, BTW)

LT has no support either I guess. 

>Here is some thing to ponder J.J, remember the GIANTS/Saints game
>a couple of years ago? you know, the one with Yooung Swilling and the 
>"one armed" LT and the 2nd and 3rd string QB's remember who was the 
>better player of the 2 ?
>in that game.

I don't quite remember, Pea.  But it'd be my guess that Swilling, too, would
have a better game against a John Fourcade-lead offense than a Phil Simms
or Hoss-lead one.

More relevant.  Remember who lead the league in sacks this PAST year?

>My ppoint and the rest of us NFCEPB, is NAME A CONFRENCE THATS IS BETTER
>THAN THE NFC EAST		  	        ^^^^^^^^^ 

Well I'd say the NFConference is. (based on the concept of sets and
subsets, inclusion, etc).  Followed by the AFConference.

>James, read the next 2 lines S L O W L Y then get a life.
>>>>Nobody is saying the NFC East has your favorite teams.  They are just saying
>>>>that the NFC East has the _best_ teams.

OK.  Now read the next 3 lines S L O W L Y, Pea.
You listed reasons why you thought the NFC East had the best teams.
I listed reasons for why I *disagreed* with *several* of your reasons.
Get it?

>This NFCEPB was ask "What is the fascination with the NFC east?"
>I responded with *MY* reasons. I did not mention good or bad aspects
>of any other teams/confrence/player because that's not what Darrel
>ask of us NFCEPB.
>			RIC. IRVIN
>			PEA.


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