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From: healyzh@iat.holonet.net (Zane H. Healy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: A question concerning GCC 2.2.2d
Date: 4 Oct 92 08:58:12 GMT
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)

Some of the program's that I've gotten recently are partially compiled with
version's of GCC that didn't use jump table's.  The question is how do I go 
about linking them together, because the complian about the jump tables.
One major instance of this is ingres, which has some library files that don't
seem to agree with jump table's.

Is there a compilier flag to turn the jump table's off?

   Zane
From: nmp08@rz.uni-kiel.dbp.de (28-SEP-1992 11:59:40.39)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: PROBLEMS COMPILING INGRES
Date: 28 Sep 92 11:04:38 GMT
Reply-To: nmp08@rz.uni-kiel.dbp.de
Organization: The Internet

I recently downloaded the INGRES database package from tsx-11 but I have
problems to compile it:
	- in the directory ../iutil:
		make calls 'sccs get insert_mbtree.c' but I haven't got
		sccs and I haven't seen it yet on any file server.
		There's just a file 'insert_mbtree.' but not in ascii
		format.
	- in the directory ../equel:
		make calls 'yacc -d grammar.y'. As I haven't got yacc I
		wrote a small shell script that calls bison with the
		appropriate -y option. But bison says: '"grammar.y", line 115:
		invalid input'. I'm not familiar with grammar files for
		yacc and bison, so I can't see what bison dislikes.
	- in order to link sysmonitor and sysmodfunc a library called
	  'libinet' is needed which I haven't got -- where can I find it?
Anybody out there who has managed to compile the package? Help would be
appreciated.

Andreas Wacknitz
Internet: nmp08@rz.uni-kiel.dbp.de
From: mgream@acacia (Matthew Gream)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Q: What is /usr/bin/doshell good for ???
Date: 5 Oct 1992 04:25:53 GMT
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
NNTP-Posting-Host: acacia.ccsd.uts.edu.au
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Wolfram Schlickenrieder (schli@cs.tu-berlin.de) wrote:

: 	The subject says it all: I found /usr/bin/doshell, but I
: 	didn't find any manpage for it. What the hack does it do?

 It spawns a shell on (any) tty, more specifically you can use it to
run shells off tty's you dont have getty running on, I do this quite
often ( getty on tty1,2,3 and my rc.local spawns a shell on tty4 in
the fashion '/usr/bin/doshell /dev/tty4 /bin/tcsh &'.

 Hope that helps.

--
Matthew Gream    - The future has a bad attitude -    M.Gream@uts.EDU.AU
Computer Systems Engineering, University of Technology. Sydney Australia
From: talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Xega revisited (was: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?)
Keywords: UNIX
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:44:39 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

In article <1992Sep28.181306.14705@cheshire.oxy.edu> rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David Giller) writes:
>>Propaganda?  Hell, yes!  Look at IBM!  Look at Microsoft!  They didn't get
>>where they are by creating great software and selling it cheap! Of course,
>>there's often a fine line between "Quality Marketing" and propaganda. :}
>
>Look at AT&T.

Yeah, that's true, but at least they released a quality product.

>But seriously, just as a benevolent comment, maybe this isn't the best
>forum for this discussion...

Agreed.  'Nuf said.

>-Dave
>-- 
>David Giller, Box 134 | Q: How many Oregonians does it take to screw in a light
>Occidental College    | bulb?  A: Three.  One to replace the bulb, and two to
>1600 Campus Road      | fend off all the Californians trying to share the
>Los Angeles, CA 90041 | experience. ---------------------------rafetmad@oxy.edu

Ob-Linux-Q:

First, kudos to Marc Hoffman for Xega.  It's pretty neat running X on my
piddly little laptop!  Everything I've seen seems to work extremely well.

Except...

...them damn fonts.  I know there was a posting a short while back on how
to set the default font, and how to change the fonts for xterms (and other
programs that allow different fonts), but I'm having no luck.

I've set FontPath to include both the misc and 75dpi fonts. I've tried to
start an xterm specifying -fn courR10 (maybe it was some other point size -
I can't remember off the top of my head), but it says something like "can't
find font courR10, using font fixed."  Of course, xset fp=/fontpath is a
dandy way to define your fontpath for other implementations of X, but xset
is not to be found on my system.  Do I have an early version (it says v1.1)
or incomplete release of X?

If I could just get this one little silly problem out of the way, I promise I
won't ask *anyone* *anything* about Xega for at least a week!

Please reply via email unless you feel lotsa other folks are having the same
problem.

Thanks,

--Brian
__________
Brian Talley, Systems Consultant, Eastman Kodak Research Labs, Rochester, NY
talley@acadia.kodak.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (X X)
Subject: Printing Docs, etc from linux
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:37:32 GMT

How do I print docs from linux?  I assume it must be something like:
more "filename" > /dev/??? .  Am I right?  If so what device?    
Also Im installing gcc2.2.2d right now I have about 300 files in one dir,
could you give me some small pointers to help me through installing so I 
wont waste so much time covering the docs a 100 times.

Thanks

Linux Newbie

X X

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: joel@wam.umd.edu (Joel M. Hoffman)
Subject: Re: PS/2 pointing device initialization patch
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 01:16:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.173849.3964@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com> troyer@saifr00.cfsat.honeywell.com (Dean Troyer) writes:
>OK, the PS/2 mouse patch I posted last week had some problems for some
>machines (it DID work on my Compaq, tho).  After disassembling my BIOS
>and comparing the Mach code, here's a much simpler & better way to get

I think we might have a copyright problem if we start using code
obtained from disassembling a BIOS.  I know that the original BIOS
clones were made by two groups of people, one that saw what the code
did, and the other that did the re-coding, specificially to avoid
copyright infringement.  (Yes, it sounds like a foolish way for adults
to spend their time, but that's not the issue....)

I don't want to start a lengthy discussion of this here.  I would
suggest that someone in charge decide:  Do we use code obtained from
disassembling other code?

-Joel
From: hedrick@geneva.rutgers.edu (Charles Hedrick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problems with KA9Q and SLIP
Date: 30 Sep 92 06:01:05 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

tony@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:

>I found an mss of greater than 1000 caused severe problems. 

Certainly it will if you have the common Berkeley implementation.
However he was talking to a Cisco terminal server.  It will happily
accept 1500 byte SLIP packets.  I'm fairly sure that this doesn't even
depend upon what MTU is set on the Cisco.  It uses the MTU to
determine when to fragment outgoing SLIP packets, but will always
accept full-size incoming ones.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jaw7@engr.uark.edu (John A. Whitney)
Subject: Problems with 0.98 and serial ports
Organization: University of Arkansas
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:54:26 GMT

   Well, last night I decided to upgrade from 0.97p2 to 0.98,
so I got the source, compiled it without a problem (minus the
SCSI drivers), and wrote the image out to the disk.  It boots
just fine...except that it doesn't find my modem on /dev/ttys0
anymore.  Other than that it runs perfectly.  It USED to find
my modem in 0.97p2, so I am assuming it was a code change that
went wrong.  Does anyone have any suggestions on how I might
fix this problem?  Did I compile it wrong?

John Whitney
jwhitney@csesun0.seas.smu.edu
From: jefftep@cs.utexas.edu (Jeffrey Grills)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Weird disk corruption (tar off msdos partition)
Date: 4 Oct 92 23:58:38 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: ozona.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Oct4.072803.23147@klaava.Helsinki.FI> torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds) writes:
>Definitely sounds like the buffer corruption problem with older maxtor
>7213A's. 
>
>Here is an excerpt from a post by swaliff@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Steve Aliff):
>>
>> Some of you may have been following my trials and tribulations with
>> a Maxtor 7213A under Linux. I spoke with Maxtor tech support today,
>> and they agreed that there was a problem with early 7213As and the
>> commercial variants of Unix (Xenix, SCO). If you have a 7213A whose
>> PCBA number is less than 63, then you may have a problem with it
>> under Linux. My present drive's PCBA number is 54. (The PCBA number
>> is their revision tracking number of the on-board controller board.)
>> The PCBA number is listed on the label on top of the drive.
>
>Upgrading to a newer 7213A helped at least Steve.
>
>		Linus


Well, I was trying to delay taking my PC apart until I got my new
ram (16mb, yay!) I've been waiting for, but I just did it anyways.
My PCBA number is 63p1.  So, it sounds like I've got a pretty
new drive (I ordered it late this summer, so it should be kinda new).
The date on it said it passed testing on 27 Jun 92, so, I know
how old it is.

I've also run memory testing problems, but never had any problems
with memory.  I've tried another motherboard to solve the GCC
sigsegv problem, but it didn't help.  So, it doesn't seem a ram
or processor problem.

Guess I'll give maxtor a call and see what they say.  I don't
know what I can hope for, but I'll find out and let you all
know.

Hmmm, is there any way to add buffer-corruption validation
to the kernel?  Maybe with an #ifdef type thing?  I think
it'd be useful for the while...

-- 
-------------------------+--------------------------------------------------
jeff grills              | "Sometimes i see myself so clearly, because I
jefftep@cs.utexas.edu    |   see nothing at all.  This feeling of emptiness
Undergrad Lab, UT Austin |   flees my soul, leaving even less behind."  -me
From: nafpliot@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu (N.N.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: DOS emulation under PD unix..
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:42:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

badger@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Jonathan Badger) writes:

>Does anyone really want to remember some obscure macro to do something like
>create a footnote? Ancient PC software like PC-Write used to use imbedded 
>commands like TeX does, but software in DOS-land has since evolved beyond
>the Precambrian. I'm still amazed that UNIX which has such fine development
>tools has such primitive applications... maybe because most UNIX users
>write code but don't run apps? This is not a cut at the Tex enthusists out 
>there - you have my admiration (& sympathy) to write your 500 page dissertationswith what is basically an expanded nroff :).
>TeX does have a future - as an output format created by wysiwyg X editors...

This is the opinion of someone who has no idea what the hell they are talking
about.  Not only is TeX not an expanded nroff, it is also not for people who
are still scared of a little effort.  If you had ever used TeX, you would
know that it is not a word processor, or a backend for a WYSIWYG editor, 
but rather a
typesetting package which allows much better control over your document than
some DOS package for the braindead. The output of all these word processors  
are only sh*t in comparison. You can see the difference when papers
are presented at conferences, or books written as to the quality of the work.
Obviously you have never seen TeX output, or payed attention to the poor
quality work that the PC editors give you.   

What it really seems like is that some poor DOS junkies are too scared to 
try something without little menu bars etc. If you want DOS, do it on DOS.
If you want something better, use Linux.  I don't see the point of making
a DOS emulator since Linux can be run alongside DOS quite comfortably as 
it stands now.

Have fun,

Nick Nafpliotis
nick-n@uiuc.edu
Illinois Genetic Algorithms Laboratory
University of Illinois, Urbana-Champaign
From: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Need for benchmark programs (was:Re: 386BSD vs Linux  (* NO FLAMES *
Date: 2 Oct 1992 20:33:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: mal11@po.CWRU.Edu (Matthew A. Lewis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, STDN%MARIST@VM.MARIST.EDU (Dan Newcombe) says:

>50 meg partition right now.  I do not have X and can't comment on that.
>I know on Linux it was slow (I have a 386/33 and 4megs)
>


my 486/33 with X is comparable to some of the old Suns (3/50 for example)
if you want SPARC spees, buy a SPARC!!!!! But still, for $2500, I now
have a pseudo-workstation with 17 in. color monitor.

Does anyone have a program to determine Xstones or DECstones?
Thanx in advance.

BTW, what are 15 in. monitors called in Europe????? 15 inch???? :)

Later

-- 
MaThiEu a. LeWis    "ask me why and i'll die/and if you must go to work
Thieves Like Us      tomorrow/well, if i were you i wouldn't bother/for there
mal11@po.cwru.edu    are brighter sides to life/and I should know because I've
                     seen them/but not very often/am I still ill?"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: t-piersh@microsoft.com (Piers Haken)
Subject: Re: Great marketing (Was Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?)
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:27:02 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp., Redmond, WA 98052
Keywords: UNIX


In article <1a7gv0INNc35@almaak.usc.edu> ajayshah@almaak.usc.edu (Ajay Shah) writes:

[stuff deleted]

>Really: it's sickening to see the way the peasants are blindly
>believing that Windows NT is the ``OS of the future''.  This when
>it's as certain as plain daylight that Microsoft will never have
>a market share as large as what it had in 1987, ever again, even
>if Windows NT can ship before end-1993 and it can be free of bugs
>and it can be worth using for anyone.  Remember these guys tried writing
>DOS, Windows, OS/2.

And how many copies of these have the 'peasants' (as you call them)
purchased?

>
>I work hard on educating all the peasants I can find.
>
>        -ans.
>-- 
>Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu

Piers.
-- 
Disclaimer: These views are my own and not necessarily
            those of the company for which I work.
From: srj@key.COM (Scott R. Johnson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:18:40 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Advanced Systems, Fremont CA

In article <KETIL.92Sep28210509@spurv.ii.uib.no> ketil@ii.uib.no writes:
>
>BUT: Perhaps we could start letter campaigns to get more coverage for
>free software?  Mail a letter to Byte or whatever, ask for reviews etc
>of Gnu stuff, and other free software.  

I seem to remember that Byte finally took the plunge, and is now on 
the Internet.  Can someone grab the "dead UNIX" copy, and check it
out?  I seem to remember seeing the line "Byte can be now reached
on the Internet, at editors@bytepb.com" at the bottom of the editor's 
and some of the other columns...

Maybe a kind note asking them to direct some attention to gnu.* would
be in order? Not to mention comp.os.really_cool_OSes_that_are_that_are_
actually_supported_by_instead_of_griped_at_by_their_users...


-- 
  --srj           A lunatic is merely a minority of one.
       o_O                                                            --Orwell
      =( ) =      ------------------------------------------------------------
        U   Ack!  Scott Johnson  Amdahl Adv. Sys. srj@key.amdahl.com  623-2333
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jem@vipunen.hut.fi (Johan Myreen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: /bin/echo
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:34:09 GMT
	<1992Oct3.110121.11725@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

In article <1992Oct3.110121.11725@klaava.Helsinki.FI> wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:

>Apart from that, a simple /bin/echo can be written rather easily.  See
>the end of this posting for the version I use.

Just for the fun, here's a version of /bin/echo I wrote some time ago.

Sadly, the C standard does not allow this kind of recursion. But it
works! Implementing the -n switch is left as an exercise to the
reader...

#include <stdio.h>
int main(int argc, char **argv)
{
        switch (--argc) {
        case 0:
                break;
        case 1:
                printf("%s\n", *++argv);
                break;
        default:
                printf("%s ", *++argv);
                main(argc, argv);
        }
        return 0;
}

--
Johan Myreen
jem@cs.hut.fi
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: feoh@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chris Patti)
Subject: Re: BYTE asks, is UNIX dead?
Keywords: UNIX
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:04:54 GMT

In article <PRDyRB1w164w@kryton.UUCP> system@kryton.UUCP (Scott Beckstead) writes:
>talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley) writes:
>
>> In article <12945@ecs.soton.ac.uk> nwp90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Nick Phillips) writ
>> 
>> [original posting deleted]
>> 
>>
>> I saw the same thing happen to the Commodore Amiga.  When it was released, it
>> was ahead of it's time.  It had superior graphics, sound and I/O slave proces
>> sors that allowed it to run considerably faster in typical applications than
>> just about anything else available (in the personal computer market).  It als
>> had (has) an operating system vastly superior to MS-DOS. Due to Commodore's
>> unbelievably inept and incompetant marketing department, the Amiga has slippe
>> and many now consider it dead.  It certainly isn't - there's still a huge fol
>> lowing - but it's not as "alive" as it could/should be.
>>
>
>Being an amiga owner I have to agree here.  Not dead merely sleeping.
>

Indeed. The amiga *WAS* a fantastic , state of the art machine that was blowing
people away with mind blowing graphics and sound when "Multimedia" wasn't even
a word many PC owners knew.. But those advantages have long since past. I'm
posting this from the same Amiga 2000 I've had for about 4 years, before that
I had a 1000.  One would think that I'd go out and get a 3000 right? wrong..

The pricing is hideously bloated, C='s marketing is so bad it's almost funny,
and to top it all off I'd have to get my machine halfway across the state to 
get it serviced. 

*and* on top of all of it, I'm a Unix professional and really want to run Unix
at home.. The *only* way I can run Unix on an amiga is to buy machine with an
'030+MMU or faster, a HUGE hard drive, TONS of ram, and a rather pricy add-on
graphics extender if I want to run color Xwindows.  Put this all together and
you've got a price that has made a few SPARC owners cringe when I mentioned it.

I still like the amiga, and will probably keep my little A2000 as a games
machine,etc in the hope that someday someone at C= wakes up and smells the 
economy.

For me, my 486'll be here in 2 weeks :)

P.S. comp.os.linux.advocacy isn't a bad idea :)

-Chris
feoh@gnu.ai.mit.edu


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: schli@cs.tu-berlin.de (Wolfram Schlickenrieder)
Subject: dvi2xxx sources anywhere...?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 11:10:19 GMT


	Hi ...

	I'd like to write two dvi drivers (dvi2epson & dvi2necp6),
	because I want to use TeX under Linux, and the only drivers
	contained in the package are dvi2ps & dvi2hplj2p.  Since I
	have neither of these, and since none of the two drivers I
	could make use of semms to be available anywhere I guess I
	have to do it myself.

	(Yes, I *have* tried to use ghostscript, which was less then
	convincing in terms of speed & memory usage...)

	So: Ifn anyone out there could mail me the (C) source code of a dvi
	driver for, say, some dot matrix printer that I can modify for
	my own needs (and post it, if there's interest, of course), I
	would greatly appreciate that...

	...Wolfram
From: talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SLS... Will they now include XFree86???????????????????
Summary: Wait & see (or: who knows?)
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:26:49 GMT
Followup-To: /dev/null
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

In article <1ana58INN1t1@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> gbh@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (GBH) writes:
>
>		Every sperm is sacred
>		Every sperm is great
>		If a sperm is wasted
>		God gets quite IRATE!!!
                ^^^

Which God?

--Brian [some of my best friends are Druids :] Talley
__________
Brian Talley, Systems Consultant, Eastman Kodak Research Labs, Rochester, NY
talley@acadia.kodak.com


Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dawill@hubcap.clemson.edu (david williams)
Subject: Re: is RLL SOL? 
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:41:40 GMT

alovell@kerberos.demon.co.uk (Anthony Lovell) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.120223.1109@aau.dk> psykseth@aau.dk writes:
>>I have looked in the various INSTALL docs, and the FAQ (from July) and nary
>>a peep about whether Linux can be installed on an RLL drive.
>>There was a peep that MFM, ESDI and SCSI were possible, so perhaps by
>>implcations RLL is out of the running.
>>
>>Anyway, I have this wonderful ST-238R which Linux 0.97.11 could not read
>>(according to fdisk).  Am I doomed to live on floppies (or find a rich uncle)?

[praise for linux deleted ]

>>Cheers,
>>  Seth
>>
>Your RLL drive should work ,you do have an AT drive controller ?

   Just to verify this, I have a CDC Wren 3 (106 Meg) and a Maxtor
XT1240R (195 Meg) running on my system right now.  The controller is
a clone of a WD RLL controller, WD1006 maybe?  Linux has no complaints
at all.  Just make sure you have the major/minor numbers set up 
properly, and you're using an AT controller (as anthony mentioned.)


-- 
      Dave Williams
        dawill@hubcap.clemson.edu
           "Huh?  What?  Could you repeat the question?"
From: oreillym@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Michael O'Reilly)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Where's Linus
Date: 1 Oct 1992 15:44:54 +0800
Organization: Home
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au
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torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds) writes:
: It also seems a lot of the linux-discussion has moved over to strictly
: user-level problems (and I couldn't be happier), and/or kernel problems
: I can't do much about (msdos fs problems etc).  That is likely to change
: again now that 0.98 is out (already one report that the hd.c changes
: result in apparently harmless "unexpected hd interrupt" messages on one
: machine).  Oh, well. 

I can make that number 2. There messages come up continously when the
hard disk is being accessed. Commenting out the message, and trying again
results in no visible signs except a frequent (every min or so)
"HD-reset". This stressed my nerves too much, so I downgraded to 0.97.6

I am running on a 486DX/33, with 8 megs of memory, and a 200 meg hard disk. 
Hard disk is of un-known brand. 

: 		Linus
Michael
.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: linux under dos under ultrix
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:34:42 GMT

bjl@freyr.research.ptt.nl (Ben Lippolt) writes:
>No luck here. SoftPC is a pretty good program, but it only emulates a 286.

the next release out will emulate a 386, according to the word I get from
Digital...However, with the funky way it emulates floppies and the way
it 'boots', I'll be real impressed if you can run non-DOS on it...

has anybody out there run non-DOS on SoftPC on a Sun or something?
-- 
          Vince Skahan				vince@halcyon.com (here)
    vince@atc.boeing.com (work)		    vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (home)
		*** Project Management is often an oxymoron ***