HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: haley@unixg.ubc.ca (Ross MacGregor)
Subject: Re: 040 3000T !!
Keywords: A3000-T-040 A3640
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:00:13 GMT

In <kdarling.714031609@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu> kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling) writes:

>jamesp@iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au (James Pickering) writes:
>>Why is it the A3640 only works in a 3000T? The 3000T is almost
>>impossible to get down here in Australia, so most people have 3000's
>>only. Is the problem only a matter of space or of power?

>Could be both.  But an Amiga dealer on CIS said that one problem was
>with needed physical clearance for a heatsink.

Could this be true?  Commodore not following it's own specs?
After all the criticism of the Toaster!  The engineers must be
pulling their hair out over this one, if TRUE i MUST qualify (I don't
want to be blamed for any nasty roomers :-).

-- 
Ross MacGregor           |  These views are my own and can be considered 
haley@unixg.ubc.ca       |  absolute truth.
From: jbono@tension.UUCP (John Bono)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: JAM info on A570 & A2200/A2400 (public info!)
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:01:56 EST
Organization: High Tension BBS

In article <1992Aug11.235523.640@pro-freedom.cts.com>, eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com
(Ed Brown) writes:
>
> > If the 020 is significantly cheaper than the 030, it might
> > have a chance.
>
>Yes, it might.  My question in this area is... what is the REAL speed
>difference between a 25 MHz 020 and a 25 MHz 030?
>
>
>*======================================================================*
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As far as I know, not an incredible amount.  An '020 is about 75% of the speed
of an '030.  The '030's major advantage is that it has an MMU, which is
important for running Unix and mapping the KS into ram.  An '020 should have no
problem running 32 bit programs if it has an external MMU(Which CBM should have
as a plug-in option for any '020 system for compatibility with higher end
systems).  
 
John
From: jbellanc@pdrome.UUCP (James Bellanca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga software emulator for PC?
Date: 10 Aug 92 22:20:56 GMT
Organization: The PowerDrome BBS [(716)825-3614 CNet]

Hogwash, eh?  Read the new issue of AmigaNews that details the A400, A100+ (or
whatever it's going to be called) an dthe new "AA" chipset.  They either broke
NDA or got permission from the VP of C/A (mor elikely)...Anyway, they printed
the whole story..just got the issue in the mail today..look awesome!

----> James M. Bellanca <-

Email TO:
          aquarium!pdrome!jbellanc@acsu.buffalo.edu
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 11:00:55 -0400 
From: Michael.Witbrock@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: Re: WSJ Article

> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.amiga.misc: 21-Aug-92 WSJ Article John
> Bono@tension.UUCP (1100)

> "Analysts agreed that Commodore could rebound, citing good potential for
> new
> models of its Amiga personal computer, as well as some novel handheld
> products."
>  

Oh Please, please, please..... I was begining to fear that I might
eventually find myself forced to buy a newton.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid)
Subject: Re: Amiga software emulator for PC?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:34:09 GMT

jbellanc@pdrome.UUCP (James Bellanca) writes:

>Hogwash, eh?  Read the new issue of AmigaNews that details the A400, A100+ (or
>whatever it's going to be called) an dthe new "AA" chipset.  They either broke
>NDA or got permission from the VP of C/A (mor elikely)...Anyway, they printed
>the whole story..just got the issue in the mail today..look awesome!

This horse has been beaten to death.
Here is what Denny Atkin says about it on GEnie:

Amiga News blew it big-time on that. The article they printed was a fantasy
posted to Usenet. The original article even said it was just a "wouldn't this
be neat" fantasy. Apparently it was re-posted without the disclaimer at the
bottom, and Amiga News printed it without doing any fact-checking.
-- 
Jon Reid    j-reid@uiuc.edu    GEnie: THE.REIDS
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: rittle@supra.comm.mot.com (Loren James Rittle)
Subject: Re: csh 5.19 and LS 4.5 ljr
Organization: Land Mobile Products Sector, Motorola Inc.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:46:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.061941.21435@ccu.umanitoba.ca> kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts) writes:
>I am having a slight difficulty here.  In shell-startup I have
>
>	;file exe
>	set ls_highlight-5.on ""
>	set ls_highlight-5.off *
>	;dir
>	set ls_highlight2.on  ""
>	set ls_highlight2.off /
>
>which mostly works.  Unfortunately, if I use Ls, the curser color is lost. (set
>to background)  Works fine in the C= shell, but not with CSH.  (I am using %c
>in my csh prompt)

Bug in csh (confirmed by WSH and C=).  The shell must Flush() Output,
C='s shell always has, WShell always has.  Many other 3rd party shells
do/did not...  I reported this problem to csh and sksh authors.

The workaround if you have SAS/C is to add the following line in
the cleanup code and recompile:

Flush (Output ());

Regards,
Loren, author of ls-4.5ljr
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From: jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999)
Subject: Re: Serial Numbers (WAS: Re: WARNING!!  Pirated escaped Directory Opus...)
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 15:14:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.120305.9273@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Angela@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de writes:

>|>    Instead of advertising that serial number, have it in there, but only in
>|>    such a way know to your (the programmer) self.  Or am I reinventing the
>|>    wheel, here?  :)
>
>As soon as two betatesters compare their programs, they'll find the
>serial number. To avoid this problem, I'ld suggest to link all the
>object files in a differant order. You might use randomize (serialnumber) 
>to calculate the random order.
>
>I think, when you do _this_, you even can advertise the serial number.

There's really no foolproof way to encode a serial number into an executable,
I think.  Both of the above suggestions just make the job of the hacker
harder, is all.  If they can't do it scientifically, I'm sure they'll just start
zapping at random until they hit the sweet spot.

The primary point of my suggestion is to make it hard to hack.  There is really
no foolproof way around it.

I kinda like your idea, though.  Perhaps adding that in with randomized
encryption, and a few other knicknacks... and the serial number part might be
bigger than the main program.  Owtch.  It's a shame that a programmer would
have to spend so much time protecting his work, instead of using it productively
in development.  :-(

-- 

*******************************************************************************
Jeff Grimmett [SuperBitMap BBS]        | fido!1:202/1401.0 [619-460-7290]
NCR -- Torrey Pines Development Center | Jeffrey.Grimmett@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com
==========    "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain."   =============
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From: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: CDTV is dead.
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:24:01 GMT
Reply-To: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Organization: Flying Cat Software

In article <1992Aug12.000554.640@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:
>
> > Also, its slightly tricky to put a rom for the 256K of the CDTV OS
> > on a SCSI port.
>
>Any real reason that the rom code for a CDTV could not be run in ram on a
>standard Amiga?  Is this not what my A3000 does every time I boot Wb_2.04
>off of the hard drive?  Not being critical here, just trying to understand.
>

Well, I was talking about the A570, which is for the A500.  Other solutions
(like ram loaded libraries) are certainly possible for machines with
a hard drive and enough ram.

>|Edward E. Brown II               | Internet: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com  |

			andy


-- 
andy finkel		{uunet|rutgers|amiga}!cbmvax!andy

"A new release is where old bad assumptions are replaced by new
 bad assumptions."

Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share.
I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.
From: pakrat@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Robert Grogan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: New Amigas??  Old Amigas??
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:52:46 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.


	What some of you seem to be missing here is that not only are there
rumors of new Amigas coming out, but there have also been actual announcements
of the discontinuation of the A500 line.  My point is- there had best be
new Amigas, because the A600 just won't cut it as a replacement for the 500
and the price tags are still too high on the 3000's.


"What ever does not kill me only serves to make me stronger."
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Hardwired Demo on an A3000?
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:06:35 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

rbm2273@ultb.isc.rit.edu (R.B. Mead ) writes:

>I've heard anout a demo called Hardwired.  It is said that this is one
>of the best-ever demos on an Amiga!

>I don't seem to be able to run it on an A3000.  It throws up a message
>that says something like, "This demo does not like Axel".

>Is this message a reference to .. not working on a non-68000 based
>machine?

>Does anyone know if (and how) this demo can be run on an A3000?

>Thanks.  Reply here or to: rbm2273@ultb.isc.rit.edu

Try restarting it with Degrader.  It should run on an A3000 (and
it will display "Extra Fast Located").

It runs on my A2000+020 fine.  It just doesn't like my NTSC Amiga... :)

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin


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From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Comp.sys.amiga.reviews moderator was on vacation Re: Considering review
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:56:43 CDT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <DGILBERT.92Aug12094328@aeshq.uucp>, dgilbert@aeshq.uucp (David Gilbert) writes:
> 
> 	I am considering reviewing all the new toys I've been getting this
> summer.  I like to think I put a lot of work into such posts, as they
> will be so widely read.  I have not seen, however, any messages for
> comp.sys.amiga.reviews almost all summer.
> 
> 	Is this just a lack of people willing to review, or has something
> happend to the moderator.
> 
> 	Any responses appretiated.  If there still is a group, then I
> should be posting within the week.

I had posted a review of the new version of the Japanese system for
Amiga there too and haven't seen it come up yet.  I have the
moderators address but haven't got any response to my mail message to
him yet.  He was on vacation and just got back Monday so his mailbox
is probably very backlogged.

> 
> Dave.
> 
> --
> David C. L. Gilbert                        |  Something witty should be here. |
> dgilbert@aeshq.uucp -> this term           |                                  |
> dgilbert@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca -> next  |-->Only Amiga makes it possible   |
>     Environment Canada               term  |                                  |
-- 
jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
James Miller

_chicchai .sig no ho ga ichiban iin janai ka_
From: jamesp@iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au (James Pickering)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: 040 3000T !!
Keywords: A3000-T-040 A3640
Date: 17 Aug 92 04:05:55 GMT
Organization: University of Adelaide, South Australia

In article <1992Aug11.135427.5778@lth.se> e91sg@efd.lth.se (Stefan Gimeson) writes:
>In article <63764@cup.portal.com> Hytec@cup.portal.com (Brandon Lee Worrell) writes:
>>
>>CBM has announced the A3000T-040 and the A3640 card!
>>The A3000T-040 is a new 040 equipped 3000 Tower and the A3640 card is a
>>3000 Tower only upgrade card. (040).  If this hasn't been announced yet
>>then I would be glad to type in the announcement.
>>Brandon Worrell
>>HyTec Computers
>>206-456-7656

I've been waiting for an answer to this but nobody seems to have
put one up (apologies if I've missed it).
Why is it the A3640 only works in a 3000T? The 3000T is almost
impossible to get down here in Australia, so most people have 3000's
only. Is the problem only a matter of space or of power? (In which 
case why didn't CBM consider this when designing the case around
the 3000's processor slot?). I noticed in the release notes that
someone typed in something like attempting to install in other
Amiga models "may" cause system failure.

Thanks heaps for your reply..
-- 
+---------------------------------------------------------------------+
| James Pickering, University of Adelaide, South Australia            |
| Disclaimer: This is my opinion, not those of the above organisation |
| E-Mail: jamesp@iagu.itd.adelaide.edu.au jdpicker@cs.adelaide.edu.au |
From: fgd3@nifty.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe, III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: How's this for a solution
Distribution: world
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:25:18 EDT
Organization: Fabbian G. Dufoe, III

In article <66299@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt2038a@prism.gatech.EDU (gt2038a gt2038a BROWNING,CHRIS SHERMAN) writes:
>Why doesn't C= make a port of windows NT for the amiga.  I'm not say that

   I'd rather see Commodore port AmigaDOS to Intel architecture.  The real
value of the Amiga doesn't come from the hardware, it comes from the system
software.  AmigaDOS is a fast, efficient multi-tasking system.  It's a shame
it isn't available to the folks with different hardware.

--Fabbian G. Dufoe, III
   350 Ling-A-Mor Terrace South   | GEnie:    F.DUFOE3
   St. Petersburg, Florida  33705 | internet: fgd3%nifty@tct.com
   813-823-2350                   | uucp:     ...tct!deep6!nifty!fgd3

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: ahansfor@coal.wpi.edu (Andrew L. Hansford)
Subject: Re: 020 vs 030
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
	<1992Aug19.170411.89811@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au>
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 23:58:35 GMT

>>>>> On 19 Aug 92 17:04:11 +1000, bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au said:

bull> In article <1992Aug18.205027.912@pro-freedom.cts.com>, eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:
>
> Another thing about the MMU, IMHO, is that lots of people are buying
> cheaper accelerators that do not contain a MMU.  Are these people
> gonna be
> disappointed about the time AmigaDOS v3.0 comes out or what?
>

Are they?  Is 3.0 going to use the MMU for VM or MP?  Maybe but it
sounds like a rumor.

bull> Not really. For the most part, the accelerators without an MMU
bull> are usuing the EC030, which is just a normal 030 with it's MMU
bull> disabled. Just pull out the EC030 and plug in a normal 030 and
bull> you suddenly have your MMU.  The only people who will have a
bull> problem are the ones where the EC030 are soldered to the board,
bull> and I don't know of any accelerator which has had that done to
bull> it.

Hmm.  I heard that before. Good to see that the accelerators are
socketed.  Still an 030 is exactly cheap and some people just will not
need to because they will not need to use VM, MP, or anything else the
MMU provides.  

-- Andrew Hansford
   ahansfor@wpi.wpi.edu
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Workbench 2.1
Date: 17 Aug 92 08:15:59 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Organization: Commodore Germany

In article <1992Aug14.165953.17211@ccu.umanitoba.ca> kaarts@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Kenneth John Aarts) writes:
 >In <9527@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com> peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:
 >
 >>No, definitely not. There was never any 2.1 ROM. WB 2.1 will run perfectly with
 >>KS 2.04 ROM (or 2.05 only on the A600).
 >
 >Do A3000's that come with wb 2.05 have 2.04 or 2.05 roms?

They have the 2.04 ROM. KS 2.05 only comes in the A600.

-- 
Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...
Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
				   or  peterk@public.sub.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: taaustin@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Music catalogue
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:28:40 GMT

Greetings,
 
I posted this request  a week ago in amiga.audio and got  no
responses... perhaps someone here knows the answer???
 
I have recently started collecting and listening to MODS.  I
would like to find some way of knowing what is available rather
than simply "dl and take a chance".   Has anyone classified the 
MODS currently available? 
 
I  am  looking for something like
 
JAZZ == list of mods
 
BLUES == list of mods
 
SOFTSTUFF (shades of George Winston's piano) = list of mods
 
NATURESOUNDS (thunder, rain, beach, whatever) = list of mods
 
INDUSTRIAL = list of mods
 
etc
 
etc
 
Is this kind of information available ANYWHERE?????
 
BTW, U4ia fans please be advised that his amiga 'blew up'  He is now offering
3 disks of previously unreleased songs for a small investment to re-equip
himself.  I -STRONGLY- urge all you U4ia fans to get the letter describing
this and including the order form...  This letter is available at wuarchive
in systems/amiga/incoming/mods/U4ia (or some path VERY similar to that)
 
Thanks for your help,
 
Terry
 
taaustin@vaxb.acs.unt.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: ahansfor@coal.wpi.edu (Andrew L. Hansford)
Subject: Re: Save the Amiga?  Want MS Word?
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:19:42 GMT



An NT port would be nice. But I'm not exactly convinced at the
portability of applications across platforms.  Then again, I do not
know much about NT.  If NT was the ONLY OS you intended to run might
as well get a 386/486 or if you really want speed a 586 or Alpha
machine.  

Now if you would like to run both NT and AmigaDOS an NT port would be
handy and probably much nicer than running it on a bridgeboard. But
why do you want to run NT.  If it is one or two apps then C= could
probably pay for their development with less trouble and expense than
porting an OS.

-- Andrew Hansford
   ahansfor@wpi.wpi.edu
From: thad@cup.portal.com (Thad P Floryan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: amiga perl anywhere?
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 03:33:45 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
 18970@fcom.cc.utah.edu><1992Aug19.124255.17535@rtsg.mot.com>
  <KENTD.92Aug20105215@zappa.FtCollins.NCR.com>

In article <KENTD.92Aug20105215@zappa.FtCollins.NCR.com>
kentd@FtCollins.NCR.com (Kent Dalton) writes:

|   [...]
|   I'm currently working on porting perl 4.0.1.7 patchlevel 33 (the most
|   recent full distribution available). The base functionality is there and
|   I've got it to where it passes about 70-80% of the test suite. But it
|   still needs work...
|   [...]

Uhhhh, you may wish to check ``prep.ai.mit.edu'' in the pub/gnu directory in
which you'll find perl-4.035.tar.Z dated Jun 23 1992 (that's patchlevel 35,
the latest from Larry Wall, PERL's author).

Or you can send email to Larry at ``lwall@netlabs.com'' in Los Altos CA if you
really want the latest!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan)
Subject: No Figs in the Apple Newton 
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:21:27 GMT

In article <YeZEIbu00XNIEXk0wI@cs.cmu.edu> Michael.Witbrock@cs.cmu.edu writes:
>> "Analysts agreed that Commodore could rebound, citing good potential for
>> new models of its Amiga personal computer, as well as some novel handheld
>> products."

>Oh Please, please, please..... I was begining to fear that I might
>eventually find myself forced to buy a newton.

That reminds me:
(from Computer World July 6, 1992)

"Only a year after Apple shelled out $26.5 million to settle a suit brought
by The Beatles over the name "Apple", the company may be facing another
fight. This years offender: Newton. Those in the industry may remember it
as the moniker of an upcoming handheld personal computer from Apple,
but the rest of the world knows it as a fig cookie made by Nabisco Foods
Group. Nabisco has held the "Newton" trademark for 101 years... and has
been known to be very protective of its rights."

Mark

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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Power Supplies
Date: 16 Aug 92 08:48:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Aug16.014828.796
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

I apologize in advance for asking this question in this section but I have
access to no other areas that seem more appropriate... please forgive the
bandwidth and reply via email.  My question is... can I use a 230 watt IBM
power supply to power an A3000 motherboard and multiple drives with the
whole system transported to an IBM PC type tower case?  I love my A3000 but
do not have enough drive bays for the SCSI CDROM drive and tape backup unit
I plan to add soon.  A tower case offers no more slots but does offer
sufficient internal expansion for my needs.  If I could have afforded an
A3000T, I would have bought it, so that option is not open to me.  I
understand that the PC power supply produces clean power at the appropriate
amp/volt amounts but that a "tick" signal is needed.  This is supposed to
be a 60 Hz clock timer of some sort.  Where does this come from and how is
it created?  The A3000's power supply is only 135 watts and that is very
minimal for the expansions planned.  A bigger power supply is definitely
needed as it is for anyone adding an 040 card, lots of ram, more drives, a
Toaster, TBCs, etc.  Thanks for any and all emailed replies,



*======================================================================*
|Edward E. Brown II               | Internet: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com  |
|Chemist On A Mission From GOD!   | UUCP:     clark.edu!pro-freedom!eeb|
|Vancouver, WA, USA, N.Amer, Earth| FidoNet:  1:105/135                |
|---------------------------------|---//-------------------------------|
|"Back off man, I'm a scientist!" | \X/ A3000 - UNIX/MSDOS/MacDOS/ADOS |
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