From: casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: another case study in hatefulness by the "open-minded"
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:10:00 GMT
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct6.081739.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu>, roy@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes...

Hi Roy,

Welcome back, and thanks for the gratuitous gratuitous personal attack.  I'm
sure everyone else enjoys reading your tirades.

Let the record show, yet again, who lit the flame-thrower and what innocent
target it was pointed at.  As long as you guys keep up the flames,
alt.astrology will be Hell.  It's that simple.

>Of course that I had no choice but come across the postings of the 
>fundamentalists from sci.skeptics here in a sacred mission to save us from 
>our heresies. If we were in the Middle Ages their cousins (the scientific 
>inquisitors) would have already committed all of us to the real flames. 

Laughable.  We could argue about who resembles the fundamentalist more: the
astrology die-hard who chooses to ignore all the evidence against astrology
and accept it unquestioningly, on faith, or the skeptic who questions
everything.  Your attribution of the inquisition to scientists shows your
perception of the past is as skewed as your understanding of the present.

No Roy, I'm afraid you and your intolerance (provoking rage) at anyone who
questions your beliefs are more deserving of the fundie label.

>In their holy land of the ReadNews when someone disagrees too much the priest
>and censor scepticus maximus shuts him or her up. That should say something
>about personalities. 

Whereas you unfortunately must do your own censorship via the kill file,
(blocking out those who disagree with you) to further develop your open-minded,
non-authoritarian ideal existence.  Does that also say something about
your personality?  Really Roy, you should at least think about what you write.
Are you for or against news group censorship?

As I pointed out the last time you advanced this falsehood, I will tell you
again - sci.skeptic is not moderated and there is no censorship there.

>I have known too many of those types: they are authoritarian, closed minded,
>reductionistic, materialistic, never wrong, and superior because they are the
>guardians of true science.

To quote Winston Churchill, "I should think it hardly possible to state the
opposite of the truth with more precision."

I admitted my error in connection with the object-beyond-pluto location less
than a week ago, to give the lie to just one of your baseless, stereotypical
slurs.

Oh yeah, and I guess I admit to being a reductionist.  At least I don't
feel compelled to reduce people to (badly applied) labels like you do.

>Sickos. 

While of course those like you who go around spitting mindless hatred and
venom, hurling epithets and falsehoods are the healthy ones?  You really
should look at yourself Roy - you're filled with hate and it's going to
harm you some day - in fact obviously it has already.

I sure wish I had a dollar for everytime someone professed to be open-minded
in the same paragraph they unleashed a torrent of name-calling and said they
wished they knew how to avoid ever seeing their faith in astrology questioned
by me again.

>Take Casper, for example (I wished I knew how to use the Unix Kill file in my
new Vax system, but I did not so I got to silently analyse the jerk). 

Don't they explain kill files in the New-Age Open-Minded Person's Handbook?

>He defenitly has a problem with the fundamentalist mother. [...]

You're treading on thin ice Roy.

>Not only the entire chart is clear about that but his
>interaction with women in this net is also testimony. 

I get along just fine with most the people on the net Roy, except you and a
few others who try to project their insecurities into attacks on me.  And you
are living proof that there is nothing special about women in that regard.

>"Know thyself" could help. 

I know myself well enough not to have to dump on others to feel good about
myself Roy.  I know myself well enough to handle people disagreeing with me
without going ballistic.

>There is only one lady he respects: Windy. Where are you Windy;
>let's compare notes.

Yes together you two would make quite a team.  I don't think you need to
compare notes though, the two of you wrote the book on pettiness and contempt.

>Well folks this is all for now.

i.e., until the next time Roy has a bad day and needs someone to take his
frustrations out on.

> 
>Roy


Dave
Newsgroups: alt.astrology