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From: x1sdup@esparc19.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Stephen Dupre)
Subject: HSTA Members
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 19:56:44 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp.  Westboro, MA

This is a call to all HSTA members on the net.  Please
e-mail me a message.  Fellow HSTA member jd whitaker
would like a list of those HSTA members on the electronic
frontier to create a mailing list.  Thanks

email:  Stephen_Dupre@DGC.ceo.dg.com
From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Road tip #4 (Ski neck)
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:42:37 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

In <30AUG199213165301@vax2.concordia.ca> marct@vax2.concordia.ca (MARC A. TISSEUR) writes:

>Turtle neck

>     When the weather starts to cool down, consider keeping one of
>those skiing neck collars.  They'll save you from one of those
>anoying throat colds.

>Marct@vax2.concordia.ca

  We call them Dickies. There's small Dickies and big Dickies. Their
great! Don't be caught without yours.
From: raible@nas.nasa.gov (Eric Raible)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CLEAN 1985 Nighthawk for sale
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:42:12 GMT
Reply-To: raible@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: rec
Organization: Applied Research Office, NASA Ames Research Center


In article <RAIBLE.92Aug26125408@wk43.nas.nasa.gov> I wrote:

   - fairly new frame-mounted windshield

That should be bar-mounted windshield...

- Eric
From: kenoyer@cujo.enet.dec.com (Greg Kenoyer, Contract Spook)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: kenoyer@sfcpmo.enet.dec.com YOU sir have a weeine mailer
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:57:07 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


sheeet, laszlo, everyone (besides you) and his/her mother can reach me.

	course, if'n you'd send it to my _current_ address, it might work, too.

		live long and prosper, lad		;^}
		
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 Greg Kenoyer			     kenoyer@cujo.enet.dec.com
 Digital Equipment Corporation	     Colorado Springs, CO
 DoD #0472	                     '84 FLH (The Last Shovel)
     any opinions expressed are mine (not Ken's, et.al.), so tough
+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:+:
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wearing a helmet
Summary: You never know ...
Date: 23 Aug 92 16:57:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


 >I think it's TERRIFIC that there are so many riders who refuse to wear
 >buckets.  [ blah blah blah deleted ]  
 >My fondest dream is that you ...  smear your brains
 >down the highway long before your moron offspring have a chance to breed
 >with my kid.

Maybe some of us are trying to breed with your kid already!

Does this kid know his father's fantasy is for people to die?  Do you
preach it at home?  Maybe you should let someone else raise it, you
sick fuck.
	I respect peoples' opinions on helmets&laws, and find some
people's opinions stupid, but wouldn't wish them dead.

							Kevin
From: mayer@sono.uucp (Ron Mayer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD Battle Hymn.... Final Days.... Get
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:08:09 GMT
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California

Ed Green <17asjhINN5r@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>In article uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us, dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
>>
>>*DoD #978 * Molly Hatchet - Flirtin' With Disaster
>>    [...]I'm flirtin' with disaster
>>    I got the pedal to the floor, [...]
>
>What's a pedal?  What's a floor?
>

Ed, if you had a bike to look at :-) you'd see that a pedal is the
thing on the right side of a bike that you step on to stop the rear
wheel.  Either he's riding indoors, or the floor is a artful way of
refering to the asphalt he's sliding on.  The fact that the pedal's
on the floor is the disaster being alluded to.

Perhaps the subject line should have been
>Subject: Re: DoD Battle Hymn.... Final Days.... Get
                                                    ^^^^^^^a bike, Ed. :-)

    Ron
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Helmet Law Editorial
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 20:56:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:

>While there is clearly a (unanimous except for me?) consensus against helmet 
>laws in rec.moto, there are diverse reasons given, upon some of which I will 
>now comment in my usual patronizing and whining manner:

Probably because of the Californians.  I did 15 years of riding in the
South (Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee) and helmets were required.   They
were hot and uncomfortable, but ... so what?  I rode across North Alabama
once in 105 to 110 degree weather and 'cooked' is the right word.
(That was on the GoldWing, which puts out some heat of its own.)

I rarely met bikers in the South who wanted a change in the helmet
laws.  Being on the bike was enough freedom.  

Now if they were to prohibit my .25 automatic in the WindJammer ...

;-)

later, david
--
David Hawkins    dhawk@netcom.com      DoD#1113
All music jars when the soul's out of tune.  --  Miguel de Cervantes
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: czw70@ccc.amdahl.com (CA Whitfield)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: riding clothes choices
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:34:11 GMT
Reply-To: czw70@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (CA Whitfield)
Organization: Amdahl UK

klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) quipped:
>In <2.2AA39EFD@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:

>>In the neighborhood I live in, there are about half a dozen such creatures.
>>They ride FZRs and GSXRs, wearing at best tie-dyed baggy cotton pants, sneakers
>>without socks, and baggy sleeveless mesh t-shirts. Oh, and helmets. Everytime
>>
>  Suck me off Cock Breath.
>     Keep your assumptions to yourself.
>
Wasnt Klinger the cross-dresser in MASH?  Are you sure you are posting
to the correct newsgroup?
CAW
From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Octane question
Keywords: octane
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:12:50 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware

In article <marcl.714860934@os-d> marcl@hela.isc-br.com writes:
>The gas stations I patronize have stickers showing octane ratings which
>look something like:
>
>     Minimum Octane Rating
>        ( R + M ) / 2
>             91
>
>One of my bikes requires 89 "Research" octane gasoline, and another one
>requires 91 Research octane.  My questions are three:
>
> 1)  Is there an easy formula to obtain a "Research" octane number from the
>     above (even if only approximate)?

Probably not, unless you can get info from the company that
makes the gas, or if you have the Motor octane number.

> 2)  What does the 'M' stand for in the formula (I read that the 'R' is for
>     "Research")?

See word Motor above.

I'll try this, hopefully I won't get it mixed up...

Back in the "old" days (60's, early 70's), gasoline used the 
research octane number.  These numbers were typically higher than
what we see today (and the motor octane numbers).  This is why
may older muscle car owners talk about the days of high octane gas
in the high 90 range).  Motor octane numbers were generally lower,
therefore a system was adopted which takes the average...

I think research octane is measured in a generic combustion
chamber type thingy, while motor octane is measured in a
typical internal combustion engine which has an alterable
compression ratio...

> 5)  What is the air speed velocity of a Sparrow?

Exactly 105 mph, unless it is an unladen sparrow, or if it 
has been treated with slick 50...


BTW, everything I just said is totally wrong...

Steve


-- 
 Steve Andersen  DoD #0239                               andersen@me.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 1992 Ducati 907 I.E.                                      1987 Yamaha SRX250
 "Life is simply a consequence of the complexities of carbon chemistry..."
From: peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram)
Subject: Re: (Was) riding clothes choices (Summary wanted)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:50:50 GMT

In article <2.2AA39EFD@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
>Tuesday September 01 1992 03:52, Laura Randall wrote to All:
>
> LR> I can't believe it, but I *did* see it today:
> LR> One soon to be skinless squid wearing a full face helmet, t-shirt,
> LR> shorts, and shower thongs.
> LR> Isn't the mandatory helmet law working great?
>
>The only difference from before is they wear the helmet. So now the sight
>of a 130+ mph machine being ridden by a naked squid is all the more ridiculous.

So,
	What is the consensus on what to wear

	1> In-city riding
	2> Long-distance riding
	3> Short and fast riding trips in no-man's land

Suresh
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Thanks a pant's full, DoD...
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:42:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: research.1992Aug25.164236.1635
Reply-To: behanna@syl.nj.nec.com
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.

In article <0eaH9_a00iUz43urVW@andrew.cmu.edu> "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>...and fuck the lot of you.  I want to express my heartfelt disgust at
>the totally underwhelming response I received from my request for route
>information from Pittsburgh, PA to White River Jct., VT.

	Gee, have you had your shots?  Will you use adequate protection?
Mayhaps someone's asshole is wound a few psi too tightly?  Try some decaf,
Pete.  I know CMU sucks and all, but geez...

>I don't know much but what I do know I try to share.  That's obviously
>not the ethic of this net.  You all are happy ripping off your employers
>squandering bandwidth on company time by discussing who's old lady is an
>uptight bitch, protesting the outcome of a vote which is a done deed and
>a long time gone, defining the difference between big and little "l"
>liberalism and how that's different from libertarianism and other such
>motorcycle related stuff, but when it comes to giving a fellow rider
>some info:  uh uh, you're on your own.

	Perhaps a lot of people just hit the "n" key without reading the post?
I read rec.moto like this almost all the time.  Don't take it so personally.

>Oh well, live and learn.

	Yeah, learn not to take it so personally.

>N.B. People who have taken the time to share their little stores of
>spagthorpe lore are exempt from this condemnation.  I don't think
>there's been a more pleasurable thread on r.m. ever.   
>-peter

	Let's not forget Henry's "Colfentucci V-1200" stories, huh?  I enjoyed
those tremendously (you listening Henry?).
.
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114   1983 Harley-Davidson FXWG Wide Glide (She lives!)
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	   (I need another bike for this space!)

Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC agree with any of this anyway?
From: benjamin@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Benjamin Renaud)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Small Motorcycles
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:45:53 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory


Hi Everyone!!

I am looking for a small bike, because my SO wants to learn to ride.
She is short, about 5'1, so i am wondering if anyone knows of a small
motorcycle (in the 350-600 range) that's:
	-nice looking
	-easy enough to care for
	-available for 2k or less (used)

All suggestion welcome, 

Thanks in advance,
Benjamin

La raison du meilleur est toujours la plus forte.  V. Hugo.
From: lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaning
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:46:58 GMT
Organization: Chemistry Dept., Harvard University

>>>>> On 18 Aug 92 09:31:41 GMT, etlanar@slartibartfast.ericsson.se (Alan Arthur) said:
Alan> After zooming round some left handers at ever-increasing speed,
Alan> I came upon a right hander and very nearly killed myself,
Alan> because although I had plenty space to lean into, I just
Alan> couldn't make myself go far enough, and I had to brake _hard_.

Alan> I'm right handed, so is this some kind of 'built-in' protection
Alan> mechanism that I need to overcome?

Most people have more trouble turning right than left - regardless of
their "handedness".  In a right turn, you control the throttle and
modulate handlebar pressure with the same hand.  Countersteering is a
lot more natural in a left-lean posture.  This is especially true if
your cornering technique has evolved without formal training and you
are weighting/pushing/leaning your way around corners.  If that is the
case, get thee to a Rider-Education course, hopefully BEFORE
overcoming any more 'built-in' protections!

As long as you keep pressing that right handlebar, you will continue
to lean to the right regardless of how natural it feels.  If you learn
to look through a turn (where you want to go) and initiate the lean by
countersteering you'll be around the curve before you have a chance to
think about it!

--
Jerry Lotto <lotto@lhasa.harvard.edu>      "Have you hugged the curves today?"
Chemistry Dept., Harvard Univ.              MSFCI, HOGSSC, BCSO, AMA, DoD #18
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Thirsty carbs at 80+mph???
Date: 26 Aug 1992 21:19:13 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1992Aug26.172102.11497@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
|> 
|> And a really wierd possibility is the petcock. Pull the fuel line at the
|> petcock, and see if you get a good flow of gas when the petcock is open.
|> I had fuel starvation problems on an old bike that were caused by a
|> twisted petcock gasket. Because the holes in the gasket didn't line up
|> with the holes in the petcock, the only fuel reaching the carbs was what
|> leaked past the gasket. I could ride it for a float bowl's distance at a
|> time. :-)


Now *that's* an idea . . 

Thanks,
Mark
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: GSRX's and Posing
Date: 29 Aug 92 03:44:52 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net (Randy Davis) writes:
]  RIGHT.  Sport-touring at its best.  FJ1200, ZX-11, Katana (?), some of the
]higher power BMW's, etc...  That's *my* choice...

I don't know of any model BMW that can touch the likes of those bikes in
the raw power dept. without some serious mods...  good thing nothing
equalizes engines like some real tight corners :) 

I personally would qualify FJ/ZX/Kat as sport touring for one person. you
could go just as far solo on those bikes as most any touring bike. get to
two up and the beemers will really hold their own.

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Wire Wheel Maintenance (was: Re: High speed wobble woes)
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 1992 13:32:58 GMT

In article <lacu7dINNea0@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> kikila@heartland.Eng.Sun.COM writes:

[Someone wrote about high speed wobble]

>Have you check the wheels?  I'm not sure what kind of wheels your
>Maxim(sorry, I have yet to see one) but if they are spokes then you
>may need to re-tune or replace the spokes.  My buddy has a 
...
>He's not riding his bike now,  he's waiting for his spokes to get here.

Spokes aren't likely to break (or become otherwise unuseable) unless
the bike has been seriously neglected or abused.  (Dirt riders, no flames
please - I realize my notion of abuse may be your notion of fun! :')

Wheel truing, though it requires patience and method (methodicalness?)
is a relatively easy art to master.  Understandably, some folks
don't want to true their wheels, either because of the time involved,
or because they don't want to risk screwing up.  That's fine, but you
still have to take it upon yourself to at least periodically check
the spokes for tightness, and the wheels for runout.  If you have
a centerstand (or like me, a stack of steam radiator fins pretending
to be a centerstand), it's trivially easy to check.  For spoke tension,
get a screwdriver, or (surprise) a spoke wrench, or something similar,
rotate the wheel, and strike each spoke lightly.  They should all ring
at roughly the same pitch, and have a similar quality to the sound.
Any spokes that ring at a much lower pitch, or don't ring at all (but instead
just "thud") are loose.  To check runout (or trueness, if you prefer),
get a vantage point where you can see the wheel rim and some fixed object,
and rotate the wheel at a moderate speed.  If the wheel is perfectly
true, you will see no motion side to side or up and down.  Specs will allow
for a small amount of runout; if a quick eyeball check passes, chances are
you're close enough.  (If, however, you're still getting wobble, it
may be enough to make a difference.  While your at it, sight down the
center of the tire tread, and rotate the wheel again, to verify that
the tire is mounted properly and is not deformed.)
As long as you're checking things anyhow, find spots on the rear frame and
swingarm, and try to rock the swingarm side to side.  If there is any
play, either sliding side to side, or rotating side to side, you
have a suspension problem to attend to.  (Gleep's two-wheel steering
turned out to be a worn pivot bolt.)

If anyone is really interested in the dirty details and finer points
of wheel truing, I'm willing to write about it, but I won't have the time
for a few months.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:13:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.003909.16986@cs.cornell.edu> karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.170734.7401@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>>Tall people who have been riding for a long time (like me) usually
>>forget about the joys of small bikes, and have to be reminded
>>by shorter riders, usually women, who are more recent converts to
>>the sport.
>
>Sigh.  You really can't resist the urge to dig yourself in deeper,
>can you?

Please explain to me what is wrong with that sentence (besides the
extra comma after 'women' that fucks up the scansion).

>>Thought you'd be Politicaly Correct and catch me in a bit of
>>sexisim [sic], eh?  Phhhhbbbt! :-)
>
>OK.  I'll bite.  How *did* you determine that Laurie is a "more recent
>convert to the sport"?  (Or "short," for that matter--I missed the
>reference if there was one.)

Because I remember when she was posting about being a new rider.
What was it, three or four years ago?.  Last time I checked, three or
four years is less than 15.  Or are you using "new math"?
As far as the 'short' part goes, she was a contestant in the
'shortest biker' contest at the last Joust.



--
Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black leather.
From: marct@vax2.concordia.ca (MARC A. TISSEUR)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Road tip #1 (Cleaning your seat)
Date: 30 Aug 92 07:29:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41



Here's the first in a series of road tips I hope will be useful
to the neophytes as well as the veterans.  The idea is to do the
same sort of thing as the back page of _Motorcyclist_ magasine.

If you have some tips, by all means post them under the same heading.
 				###

_Cleaning your seat_

        When washing your bike, just stick to plain soap and water
for your seat and stay away from Armor All.  The later will make your
seat look good but it will also make it so slippery, you may find
one of your more private orifices positionned over the one you use
for gas the first time you hit the brakes.

Marct@vax2.concordia.ca
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: painting motorsickles (how to wanted)
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:59:56 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <92248.084847U10119@uicvm.uic.edu> Ed Dowtort <U10119@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>i want to paint my motorcycle, and want to know if there is anything
>special to know about it?  how do i deal with the plastic side panels?
>

Depends on how rigid they are. If they flex, use flexible primer and add a 
flex agent to the paint.

>do i need to strip all of the old paint and primer?  if so, what is a good
>way to strip it?
>

Not unless it's peeling and/or rusting. If so, use industrial grade stripper,
available at auto paint supply stores. Careful with this on plastic or glass.

>any advice on the type of paint i should use?
>
>i'll be painting only the tank (metal) and fender, side panels, tail piece
>(plastic/whatever).
>
>any advice on how to deal with a dent in the gas tank?  (it came with the bike)
>

Bondo.

Jeff Achenbach
achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:29372 rec.autos.driving:5179
From: markb@wc.novell.com (Mark S. Burnham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.driving
Subject: Re: Electronic Counter Measures
Date: 29 Aug 92 00:09:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <13455@pogo.wv.tek.com>, kevinm@pogo.wv.tek.com (Kevin Mills) writes:
> 
> 
< lots of cool stuff deleted >
> 
> On another (releated) note.  I had some guy (a customer) at a local
> motorcycle shop  tell me that he just paid $1,200 for a detector system
> that would tell wether there was an officer nearby (a few blocks away)
> by detecting their radio.  I suspect he was either feeding me a line or
> had been fed a line himself.  Has anyone else heard of such a system?
> 
> That's all I have.  So long for now...
> 
> Kevin
> 
A long time ago, I got this stuff off the net from a guy named "Randy".  I'll
just post what I still have from then...

------------------------------------------------------------------------
I've read through the previous posts on detecting Smokey, and am not sure
what is being referred to so I thought I'd tell everyone how to locate the
nearest CHP [California Highway Patrol] officer (this won't work with local
police and has nothing to do with radar).  You may have seen ads for a CHiPs
detector (about $300).  Well this is how they work, and you can duplicate one
for about $50.  CHP patrol cars often have to function very far away from 
their "base" station (headquarters).  CHP officers wanted to have those chest
mounted mobile radios like the local police have, but their range would not
cover the often great distances necessary for the CHP.  So what they did is 
made a system where their portable radios broadcast on a different frequency
from their car radio.  The portable radio transmits to their car radio, and
the signal is then relayed on the car radio's frequency to the base station.
The portable radio's frequency is called a "mobile extender frequency" and 
only has a range of 3 miles.  So, if you can pick up this "mobile extender 
frequency" you know that a CHP officer is within three miles of you, and the
stronger you pick up his signal, the closer he is.  The frequency in Calif.
is 154.905, and any police scanner can pick it up.  Just go down to Radio
Shack, buy their cheapest $50 two channel scanner, order the crystal for 
154.905, and when it comes you have a low cost CHiPs detector!
---------------------------------------------------------------------------

I never got around to trying this, but it SOUNDS reasonable.

Anyone else ever heard of this??

- Mark 
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA