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From: v070n53b@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MARK PRZYBYSZEWSKI)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: The Best Far Side cartoon
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:07:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Besides a lot of the ones previously mentioned, especially the vengeful 
animals, I love:

the one where the thugs threaten to use "MR. THINGY"

the lifeboat with the dog holding one of the bigger sticks

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ Mark Przybyszewski 	v070n53b@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu	v070n53b@ubvms.bitnet +
+ 				GO BILLS IN '92!			      +
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+ I may not be the president, I may not be the pope, but as long as I have    +
+ Gritty Kitty, I shall never mope!	Stimpson J. Cat, Ren and Stimpy	      +
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From: gt4627b@prism.gatech.EDU (gt4627b Matthew Kramer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Where can I find this one???? Help!
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:06:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

1) Does ANYONE out there know if a compendum of "Academia Waltz"
strips have been published anywhere, by anyone, and if so,
can I get it? (Brethed's predeccesor to "Bloom County")

2) Ive been looking for years for a book called "The whole mirth
   catalog." It was a spoof of the whole earth catalog, and was
   a series of cartoons, black ink on white, in a large size paperback
   format. ANYONE SEEN IT? Id be willing to pay someone a finders fee
   if they can just tell me where to find it !!!

Thanx.
Send replies to :
gt4627b@prism.gatech.edu

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From: trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
Subject: Re: The Angriest Dog in the World
Organization: Jes Grew Carriers -- Metaphysical Bunko Squad 
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:47:10 GMT

bhoughto@hopi.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton) writes:

>That FREE newspapers (City Paper, Boston Phoenix (which is
>free at most campuses), New Times -- your city of course has
>one of these things in some form or another) still pay for
>this thing is the greatest mystery of the space age...

The Creative Loafing in Atlanta is the only paper around here that I know
of in which this appears.  I guess the guy's forte' isn't art...but the
dialogue through the window usually sets me thinking...more than I can
say for a lot of other strips.  And I laugh at the concept-dog almost 
every time.  I haven't quite gotten a grip on this strip's significance, 
but I have come to the conclusion that someday I will, and it will be a big 
moment...

...so angry he cannot move.  He cannot eat.  He cannot sleep.  He can just
barely growl...Bound so tightly with tension and anger, he approaches
the state of rigor mortis.

"Bill...Why is Pete wearing a diaper?"  (grrrrrrrrrrr...)
"He's trying to get his shit together." (grrrrrrrrrrr...)
                                        (grrrrrrrrrrr...)
[night]                                 (grrrrrrrrrrr...)
   


 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
 
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From: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Jim's Journal
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:38:24 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <1992Apr9.163537.25433@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>"Jim's Journal" fans should be locked up in little cages and have rotting
>meat pushed in between the bars once a week.

Hey, I resemble that statement! :-)  (I was wondering what the junk on the
floor was...)

I think Jim's Journal is an excellent strip, though less than it was
originally.  When I bought the collection, I was utterly blown away by its
brillance.  But then, that's me.

-- 
Michael Rawdon
rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

After the fire, the fire still burns;
The heart grows old, but never, ever learns;
The memory smoulders, the soul always yearns.
After the fire, the fire still burns.
					- Pete Townshend
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From: Pete Harlan <harlan@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: stupid strips (why they might be stupid)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 03:39:52 -0500

|I say the stupidest, most awful, all-around-most-deserving-of-instant-
|cancelling strip is: MARMADUKE. Yes, next to this Family Circus, Cathy,

I read something about Marmaduke that (if true) explained a lot; it
said that the guy who writes it is under contract and has to write it
for X years, and that he doesn't own his character (e.g., he makes no
money off Marmaduke dolls).  He's wanted out for a while, but he's
under contract.  So picture not having to read a strip about an
oversized dog, but having to write one when you haven't had a good
idea for it in years.

So why would a newspaper carry it?  I suppose they get things like,
"You want The Far Side?  Sure, but you've got to carry Marmaduke or
Wee Pals or Fred Basset or Heathcliff or..."

--Pete Harlan
  Arlo and Janis fan
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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Calvin and Hobbes Question
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 01:58:33 GMT
Organization: Living in a satellite fantasy, waiting for the night to end.

me@dude.pcs.com (Michael Elbel) writes:

>> Another great thing about [Bill Watterson] is that he has vowed never
>> to exploit C&H: no Calvin mugs, no Hobbs t-shirts. 
>
> Not true. I have this Calvin and Hobbes T-shirt at home and are very
> proud of it. 

Maybe so, but it's a bootleg.  There are no authorized C&H T-shirts.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

NIBBLE SAY NO RHYTHM NO DANCE
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Peanuts: Can Snoopy Talk?
Keywords: peanuts
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:06:03 GMT

markrose@spss.com (Mark Rosenfelder) writes:

>In article <1992Apr13.214107.7652@descartes.waterloo.edu> kbnguyen@descartes.waterloo.edu (Khanh Nguyen) writes:
>>	A friend and I was discussing the other day about if Snoopy can
>>talk to others, or when he talks, do others hear?
>>
>>	Is he like in a world of his own like Calvin (& Hobbes) and has his
>>own imagination. Because most of the time that I've seen Snoopy talk, 
>>he has thinking clouds.

>He never talks (although he's been known to bark).  However, the other
>characters sometimes have an insight into what he's doing that would be
>hard to figure if they can't read his mind-- e.g. how did they know that
>he was reading _War and Peace_ one sentence per day?  This is simply
>one of the surrealistic elements in the strip.  

We also know that Snoopy is able to communicate through writing; Charlie
Brown is often called upon to proofread Snoopy's manuscripts.


                                         --Steve Stelter
                                           sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: Peanuts, Snoopy, and Cookies
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:54:20 GMT

>What is with Snoopy's obsession with cookies?  It seems once a month
>(sometimes more) the final panel ends with Snoopy wanting cookies, or
>Snoopy thinking about how good cookies are, or Snoopy thinking about
>how cookies are the greatest product of all of Earth's civilizations.
>Why?

Oh, I don't know.  Probably the same reason *I* have an obsession with cookies.
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From: kreme@isis.cs.du.edu (The Loch Ness Dog)
Subject: Re: Bloom County
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 10:22:11 GMT

amm50@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Andrew Murphy, Amdahl Ireland Ltd.) writes:


>   Is anybody else a fan of Bloom County ? It doesn't appear in any
>newspapers here, so I've only got to know it through buying collections
>in book form. In the last book that I bought, which was about a year ago,
>Bloom County winds down at the end and all the characters go their own
>ways. Since then, no new books have appeared. Does this mean it's finished
>completely? If so what is Berkely Breathed at these days?

Bloom Country did in deed close up.  Berke is now writing a truly dreaful
load of tripe called "Outland" that has recycled most of the Bloom Country
characters back in (Ronald Ann, Opus, Bill, Steve Dallas, and the roach..)
into a Sunday only strip rehashing some of the lower points of Bloom County.

Too bad, he had something great but it seemed to get away from him.

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From: an12370@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David C. Tuttle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Best Long Time Strip/Gahan Wilson/Cutter John
Date: 16 Apr 1992 22:35:31 GMT

dtate@unix.cis.pitt.edu (David M Tate) writes:
<buccb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Carlos Dragonslayer Butler) writes:
<>
<>	All the others I really like revolve around Oliver. I will
<> never ever forget the one where he is hacking and upon breaking into
<> someone else's computer, dons a head scarf and wields a sword, 
<> yelling, "Abast, ye maties! We's a comin' aboard and we wants all
<> the booty!"...
<
< Actually, wasn't it
<	"Avast, ye corporate swabbies!  Prepare to be boarded!"
< or something more like that?  I definitely remember the word "swabbies"...

My brain tells me (and it could be wrong)...
     "Avast, ye scurvy corporate swabs!  Prepare to be boarded!"
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From: force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com!baylor
Subject: Re: Rerun and The Worst Strip (was Re: Peanuts)
Reply-To: baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:22:33 GMT

In article <??cH?9=m6@cs.psu.edu>, plu@math.psu.edu (Todd Andrew Simpson) writes:
>In article <apple.702913191@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu> apple@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jessica White) writes:
>
>   I was just wondering...  does anyone else remember a little boy who 
>   rode on the back of his mother's bike?  I believe that he was the little 
>   brother of Linus and Lucy, but I'm not sure.  Please someone let me 
>   know that I'm not crazy!  :)  No one I have ever mentioned it to
>   remembers him!  
>
>   If you know who I'm talking about, do you remember his name?
>   Also, I was wondering why no more was written about him.
>
>There was such a character, called Rerun, and he was Linus and Lucy's
>little brother.  Come to think of it, I don't know what happened to him.
>Also, why would anyone name a kid Rerun?  I don't know, but there was
>another kid in Peanuts who I haven't seen for years who wore a shirt
>that said 5 on it.  Turned out his name was 5....
>
I LOVED Rerun. He was responsible for the only game Charlie Brown's team
ever won, when the opposing pitcher couldn't hit his strike zone (too small).
The reason he got his name (it might be a nickname) was that Lucy expressed
her wish for a sister, "And what did I get? A RERUN!" [quote is very 
approximate]. 5 was a good kid, too. His father changed his name 
(from we know not what) because he said everyone was becomming a number,
anyway. He had two sisters named 3 and 4. (presumably Dad was 1 and 
Mom was 2 and the sisters were older).
"This is his way of protesting, right?"
"No, this is his way of giving in."
(Am I the only one who remembers 5's last name?)
From: jk1@red5.acpub.duke.edu (JAYARAMAN KEERTHI)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: C&H:  Merchandising (was Re: HOBBES (of C&H) Bumper Sticker)
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:57:53 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <yctjg!n@lynx.unm.edu>, lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
|> wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
|> 
|> > ...all merchandise *except* books and calendars is bootleg.
|> 
|> Watterson doesn't even like the fact that A&M are printing the large-
|> format book collections, and has said so in interviews.  (But reprints,
|> including books and calendars, are part of the standard syndicate contract
                       ^^^^^^^^^
|> so he doesn't have any direct control over them.) 
|> 
|> --
|> Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
|> 
|> "forests falling at a desperate pace"

I haven't seen calendars of C&H in any of stores out here. Being such a fan
of the same I would love to get hold of it. If nettors could mail me as to
the location of such a merchandise I would be truly grateful. Putting it on
the net would be useful to the other fans lurking in the net-world.
Bye
Jay Keerthi.
From: MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu (mark rieker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Family Circus in Bloom County
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:49:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92107.124952MJR127
Organization: Penn State University

Another great Family Circus reference in Bloom County was towards
the end of the strip, when they are all trying to find new jobs.
Oliver Wendell Holmes comes in with this big-ass oval head...

Oliver: Guess where I got a job
Milo: Uh, my guess would be Family Circus
Oliver: Court order, they're having me bussed in.

It still kills me even now...
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  We are Penn State

 "I'm not like this because I'm in college, I'm in college because I'm
  like this"
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From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: Peanuts
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 07:38:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr08.224245.4794@onetouch.COM> csmith@onetouch.COM (Craig Smith) writes:
>When I went to college, I adopted the nickname Charlie Brown because of
>my deep love for the strip.
>
>Unfortunately, Schulz seems to have lost it.  He hasn't done anything
>good since the early 70's.  I've caught him repeating strips a lot
>lately.  It's a shame.
>
>The day is stops running I'll just shake my head and say "I saw it coming."
>
>Sorry, people.  I loved the strip, but its empty now.


	Yeah, I really feel the same way too. (Although I never adopted
any nicknames stemming from it.)  It was once really good--  or at least
I remember it being really good once, but it no longer does it have
that spunk and vitality that it used to.  I'm still hoping, however, that
when the strip does finally die, that someone will publish a "Complete
Peanuts" or something like that.  Alas, alack.  Not with a bang, but a
whimper.

	-- Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>


Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics.strips:294 soc.culture.canada:3245 soc.culture.usa:2835
From: branwen@cerebus.ccc.amdahl.com (Karen Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips,soc.culture.canada,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Comic Strips -- American Cultural Imperialism over Canada
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:33:32 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Apr8.004312.1600@cs.sfu.ca> jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews) writes:

>     Well, there is one strip by a Canadian that I know about:
>_For Better or Worse_, by Lynn Johnson.  But although I don't
>think she refers to the USA, I have never seen any references to
>Canada in that strip.

They aren't coy about where they live in the strip: Toronto. They don't
do a whole lot of holidays (I remember Christmas strips, but that's it).
Mostly it's about people and their lives and jobs. What specifically
would you like her to add that's Canadian? 

--
                                          Karen Williams
                                          branwen@cerebus.ras.amdahl.com
"Don't whine. Warrior women speak in a husky whisper."
  -- Brat Pack #3
From: labc-1ad@e260-1a.berkeley.edu (Eric van Bezooijen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Waanzin, Waanzuit ????????
Date: 16 Apr 92 05:04:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berzerkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: e260-1a.berkeley.edu

I am not sure if this the correct place to post this, but I thought I might
try..

A while ago I came upon a wonderful comic strip in Holland called "Waanzin,
Waanzuit" (I think that is the title).  Anyhow, it was really funny, and it
featured Sir Isaac Newton alot, with many apple jokes.  This comic strip was
really bizarre, and it explored some intereesting ideas like different versions
of the story of the parents leaving their kids in the woods and one kid leaving
bread-crumbs behind...  Everytime the kids would find their way back their 
parents would kick them out again, and the kid would use different substitutes
for the crumbs like steaks, anvils, etc.  I REALLY liked this cartoon.

To get to a point, several years ago I was looking over someone's shoulder,
and I thought I saw someone reading this in English.  Does anyone know what
the English version of this is called, where I can get it, and if it is 
still in print ?   Any info will be MOST appreciated.

please E-MAIL me at labc-1ad@web.berkeley.edu.  Thank you for your cooperation
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Doonesbury (sp?)
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:23:52 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Apr14.105812.17781@syma.sussex.ac.uk> andyh@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andrew Holyer) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.153458.12484@csd.brispoly.ac.uk> pm3_norr@csd.brispoly.ac.uk (Paul Norris) writes:
>>Come again?  I know you said later that you were referring to the early
>>stuff - Doonesbury these days is (IMO) satirical rather than sarcastic.  
>>Do any US papers carry "If..." which runs in The Guardian. The UK paper
>>which also carries Doonesbury - it's quite a culture shock sometimes
>>reading the one after the other when they're on the same topic.
>>
>>Compared to If.. Doonesbury is extremely subtle, or maybe it's just that If..
>>is extremely UNsubtle and definitely sarcastic.  Don't get me wrong, I like 
>>both (and mourn the days when I could read those two *and* Bloom County on 
>>the same page).
>
>I agree. Those were certainly halcion days. I'm only sad now because I
>won't get to see what Steve Bell would do with a  government he agreed
>with.

Lord knows that Doonesbury's far more subtle than Bloom County, Outland,
or Thatch.
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From: iven@strawberry.cis.ohio-state.edu (Daniel R. Iven)
Subject: Re: Needed: COMPLETE bibliography for C&H
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:43:30 GMT


As I remember the order of the books is (please correct me if I'm wrong)

Calvin and Hobbes
Something Under the Bed is Drooling
The Essential Calvin & Hobbes (a combination of the first two)

Yukon Ho!
Weirdos From Another Planet
The Athoriative Calvin & Hobbes (a combination of the previous two)

The Lazy Sunday Comic Book (Collection of Sunday comics, some from all of the
			    previous books some not in any other book)

Scientific Progress goes Boink
Attack of the Deranged Mutant Killer Snow Goons


I could be wrong on these.  I do have all of them though, so I'll check 
when I get home.

Personally I want to be Calvin when I grow up.  Such imagination - SpaceMan
Spiff and all the rest.

Later
		Daniel
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From: me@dude.pcs.com (Michael Elbel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Calvin and Hobbes Question
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:58:10 GMT
Organization: PCS Computer Systeme GmbH

In <1992Apr8.171237.4360@techbook.com> gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane) writes:

>potential.  Another great thing about _him_ is that he has vowed never
>to exploit C&H: no Calvin mugs, no Hobbs t-shirts.

Not true. I have this Calvin and Hobbes T-shirt at home and are very proud
of it. I haen't seen anything else with C&H on it, fortunately.

Michael
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From: willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie (Gavin Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Bloom County
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:32:08 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <1992Apr8.210033.15480@ncar.ucar.edu> amanning@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:

>In article <1992Apr8.143506.16072@cis.ohio-state.edu> ffriedma@cis.ohio-state.edu (frank e friedman) writes:
>>
>>	I'm a new subscriber to this group.  There has been a lot of talk
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>Sorry, but I couldn't resist
You must try!!!
You must try to be strong, and try to hang on, or else your life will be 
lived ..... for the THRILLLLLLLLL :-)

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From: parama@ives.cs.unc.edu (Paramasivan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: The Best Far Side cartoon
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:04:18 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill

In article <sacass.703156070@unix1.tcd.ie> sacass@unix1.tcd.ie (stephen andrew cass) writes:
>Can anyone tell me what the one with the prehistoric men hunting the
>mammoth while one blokes spear misses and the caption is 'Air Spear! Air
>Spear!' means???
>

Sometimes you have to accept the fact that Gary larson is American; hence an ardent
basketball follower, and expects his redears to be as well. Sigh!

--P2