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From: kristian@gargoyle.uchicago.edu (Kristian Simsarian)
Subject: Knobby tires in 27" ?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:11:15 GMT


	In addition to a nice touring bike I have a commuting bike
that gets me the < 2 miles to work through city streets.  It is a
police auction bike that I feel safe locking up outside.** I need to
put new tires on it, but because I will be riding in the snow, etc in
the winter I would like to get some tires with tread. So far all I can
find in 27" is tri-sport type semi-slick wheels.  The michelin Touring
tire is nice, but 2 of them almost cost more than the bike, and the
Michelin tread is not all that radical.  Where can one find 27" tires
with some surface terrain features?

	Alternatively since there are many 26" tires that would fit
the bill how might one retrofit 26" tires on a "10-speed" type bike?
My only concern is getting some kind of braking.  Is there such a
thing as a cantilever that you can put on with clamps as opposed to
via braze-ons?

deteriorated-tired and curious,
Kristian





** some may wonder about the logic of buying a bike that is supposed
to be not worth stealing from a police auction.  However at least the
-- 
Kristian T. Simsarian			University of Chicago AI Laboratory
email: kristian@cs.uchicago.edu		CS Dept. Chicago, IL 60637
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: M16302@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: PedaL thread compatibility
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:18:16 GMT

I found an some old Campy pedals that worked better with touring shoes so
screwed them into my Shimano XT crank --no problem.  However, when I tried to
put the Shimano Dura Ace (pre-clipless) pedals into my Campy - no go.  Could
someone out there tell me what goes?
 
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From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Subject: Re: Knee problem
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 06:04:19 GMT

Like just about everything else about your body, Chondromalacia
Patellae comes in varying degrees. I understand that it is somewhat
common in any sport that exercises the knee violently.

It's most mild form is a slight irritation that can grow into a 
semi-serious roughening of the rubbing surfaces of the patella.
If you feel pain 'under' the kneecap it is recommended that you
take it easy for a week or so.

This mild form is generally caused by a great increase in mileage
or difficulty -- climbing hills in big gears seems to be the most
common trigger. Given rest, turning smaller gears and careful
attention to your bodies complaints generally is all that's required
for this ailment.

If you continue to press on when you have this problem though, it can
become rather serious. There are micro-surgical procedures now for
repairing the damagethat Chondromalacia can do, but they can't make
your patella as good as new.

Exercises to strengthen the quads equally are fine but for the vast
majority of riders all that is necessary is to allow your muscles
time to build up. Most of us will devlop balanced quads but they will
develop at different rates. If you press your training regimen faster
than your body can develop, you might hurt yourself and Chondromalacia
Patellae can become serious enough to end your ability to ride.

Listen to your body -- don't overstress yourself and ry to convince
yourself that "no pain, no gain" works in every case. Your knees are
one area that you have to be careful of if you cycle.

But, after all, most people aren't capable of injuring themselves
seriously simply by riding. The pain is enough to control most
riders and limit their exposure.

Chondromalacia in it's worse forms is very rare in cyclists and if
you get knee pains it is probably from a variety of other far less 
serious (though dreadfully painful) reasons.

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: sutton@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Rich Sutton)
Subject: Re: Schwinn files for bankruptcy
Summary: more puns
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 04:25:13 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.misc

In article <maarrrk.718646869@seidel> maarrrk@seidel.ucsb.edu (Mark Erickson) writes:
>sutton@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Rich Sutton) writes:
>
>>I just heard this on CNN. They reported that Schwinn's market share has
>>dwindled from 12% in the 70's to 7% today; and, they're saddled with debt. 
>>Like so much news there were no other details.          ^^^^^^^
>
>So they couldn't stem the tide?  Sounds like their accountants
>need a brake.  Maybe they need to frame a new strategy.  Their
>stock must have posted serious losses.  Or maybe I spoke too 
>soon  :+) :+) :+)

Your puns have no bearing on Schwinn's fate. Really, it's sad to think
that Schwinn, once the hub of the USA bike industry, would have to dropout.
Their bond ratings will no doubt fall to the bottom bracket. I suppose
those brazin' business practices of the Pacific Rim are to blame.

Perhaps our government will fork over some cash to stay Schwinn's
problems. Washington has tread that course with the Chrysler bailout,
but they must tire of drafting checks in this manner. An economic crash
could occur if they don't break away from such profligate spending. The
government just can't afford to pump up every company that falls prey
to the business cycle.
From: lars@craycos.com (Ron Larson)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Cold-Weather Footgear
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:25:29 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

I haven't tried attaching cleats to cross country ski boots but I have
ridden a road bike with a minimum of discomfort in the dead of winter.
You may have tried these things.  If you have, chuck the mail message.
They work for me.

I ride in regular cycling shoes (Look and Diadora) with Look cleats on
them.  On very cold rides I wear the following layers.  Sock long
enough to extend well into might heavily padded tights, plastic bag
(save the ones they put newspapers in) as a vapor barrier, also long
enough to extend well into the tights, shoe, neoprene shoe cover.  The
plastic bag keeps my foot VERY warm although it is usually soaking
wet.  Without the plastic bags, my feet freeze.  My impression is that
I work hard enough to generate a lot of heat in my feet and that most
of the cooling that takes place is evaporation of sweat.  The bag stops
the evaporation.  If I ever find it is too cold for this combination, I
will probably try multiple layers of bags. Over the socks, over the
shoes and over the neoprene covers.

Let us know what your solution is.

regards-

lars
-- 
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From: ronerwin@cac.washington.edu (Ron Erwin )
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Sealed bearings
Summary: Noisy/failed bearings
Keywords: Sealed Bearings and their noise
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:34:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct8.233449.24469
Organization: UW Computing

I've owned Bullseye sealed hubs for years and replaced
the bearings several times when they started squealing.
I just recently learned that the inner race of the bearing
often slides or slips on the axle and that produces the
noise, not the bearings.  The solution is to apply a drop
of loctite (auto parts stores) to the axle/bearing race 
and assemble the wheel.  I have had no more noise problems
since I made this fix.

I also saw a picture somewhere showing loctite used on a skating
wheel bearing.  If you suspect this problem, look for wear marks 
on the axle surface under the bearing - if you see any patterns
your bearing is slipping too.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: jsr@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Joe Riel 3752)
Subject: Sealed Hubs and the Rain
Organization: NCR (Torrey Pines Development Center)
Disclaimer: This posting does not neccessarily reflect the opinions of NCR.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 19:30:41 GMT

I commute by bike and dislike rebuilding the hubs after almost every 
rainy day (even though there aren't a lot in San Diego).  What
experience do you have with Phil Woods, Bullseye, or American Classic
sealed hubs (with cartridge bearings)?  How long do they last and have 
you ridden them in the rain?  Can they be readily rebuilt if necessary?
I also have a mountain bike (don't use it for commuting) with Deore XT 
hubs, these are called sealed but merely have a rubber gasket with a 
normal cup and cone bearing, they do not seem to provide much
protection from the rain.  

I own a pair of in-line skates which have cartridge bearings and one of 
the bearings has failed (noisy and lots of friction) after about 50 miles 
of usage so I'm a little leary about spending the money for hubs if there 
is not a significant advantage.  Skate bearings probably get more
abuse than bike bearings since they are close to the ground and
spinning much faster, however I never used them in wet conditions.

A second question, do race mechanics rebuild (disassemble, clean, and
regrease) all the hubs of their racers following a stage in the rain?
I have a hard time believing they do, but my experience following a ride
in the rain is that it seems necessary.  Maybe I'm using the wrong
type of grease??

Thanks for any comments,

Joe

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: grichard@swimming.cis.ohio-state.edu (Golden Richard III)
Subject: Krytonite cable locks
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:41:21 GMT


Anyone have any experience with Kryptonite's cable locks?   Is there
something inside that sleek black case besides your run-of-the-mill
steel cable?   How's the lock itself?


Thanks,


--Golden
-- 
Golden Richard III             OSU Dept. of Computer and Information Science
grichard@cis.ohio-state.edu                                   (614) 292-0056
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: dhinds@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Hinds)
Subject: Re: Tao of Crashing
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 03:03:08 GMT

In article <45320004@hpmwgde2.sr.hp.com> budn@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Bud Noren) writes:
>tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich) writes:
>
>>No amount of training can compensate for the inability to react as
>>fast as traffic accidents occur.
>
>But you neglect the time dilation phenomenon inherent in bike crashes.

I think that this phenomenon is in fact largely an illusion.  There is
no way for your brain to instantly start working faster, at the moment
of an unexpected accident.  And there is no time for significant control
over what your body will do; the neurons just don't work that fast.  A
more likely explanation for the apparent "time dilation" is that in
retrospect, our brains automatically reconstruct a coherent sequence
of thoughts and events, which becomes our "memory" of what happened.
There is no stopwatch in the brain that can time stamp each "thought"
along with the corresponding events in the outside world; it takes a
significant fraction of a second for a signal to propagate from one side
of the brain to the other, so it isn't meaningful to talk about when a
particular thought happens anyway.  You may end up with the memory that
you did something for a particular reason, when in fact the reason
occurred to you a second or so after it was all over.

        - David Hinds
          dhinds@allegro.stanford.edu
From: sutton@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Rich Sutton)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Schwinn files for bankruptcy
Summary: reported on CNN
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:26:07 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

I just heard this on CNN. They reported that Schwinn's market share has
dwindled from 12% in the 70's to 7% today; and, they're saddled with debt. 
Like so much news there were no other details. 
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: josh@Happy-Man.com (Joshua_Putnam)
Subject: Re: speedplay pedal/lolipop pedals
Reply-To: Joshua_Putnam@happy-man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:07:09 GMT

In <1992Oct15.144351.9487@javelin.sim.es.com> bgeer@javelin.sim.es.com (Bob Geer) writes:

>Other pedals/cleats I have/am considering:

>Look-compatible system: Now that there is a cleat that provides
>rotational freedom, I'm tempted.  Esp. since the Campy pedals would
>look very nice on my C-Record equipped bike.  However, I'm afraid the
>plastic cleats would wear off far too quickly.

I have not had much trouble with cleat wear from walking,
but I don't walk as much as some people when I'm riding the
bike with Look pedals.  (If I'm walking I'm touring, and if
I'm touring I'm on the bike with platform pedals and I'm
wearing shoes with metal-studded cleats.  Ditto for
commuting.)

If cleat wear is a real problem, you might consider
aftermarket Look-compatible cleats made of metal (e.g.
LeTour aluminum alloy cleats carried by Branford).
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: "HI-TECH"
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:04:22 GMT

daavid@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Daavid Turnbull) writes:
>In article <718299759.AA00000@urchin.fidonet.org> Chilero@f88.n106.z1.fidonet.org (Chilero) writes:
>> I'm all for technical goodies on your bike, what with geekbars,
>> Camelbaks,bent-forward seatposts, etc.
>> BUT! The first person I see riding along on his/her bike , yakking on a cellular
>> phone is gonna get ROOSTED!!!!!!!
>I do not think that I could contemplate carring out a conversation while 
>actually on the road (the helmet would get in the way) but I can see the
>cellular phone being quite a useful piece of cycling equipment.  Only last
>week I was riding home listening to the tranny in my pocket when they had
>a talk back session which made mention of cycling paths.... I wish I had 
>had my wife's phone on me then.
Lots of pros ride with cellular phones.  I guess they're not REAL bike
riders like us he-men.  Right Chilero?
-Terry
From: rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: Can you live exclusively on energy drinks?
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:15:55 GMT
Organization: Household UNIX, Auckland, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Sean.Smith@cs.cmu.edu writes:
: Funny you should ask!
: 
: I was just reading an article from a recent issue of
: the _Cornell Alumni News_ in which some scientists
: from Cornell discuss their latest potato research, and
: claim that a diet of potatoes and milk would provide
: all human nutritional needs.
: 
: I can dig up the precise reference, if you'd like...
: 
: --Sean
: 
: sean.smith@cs.cmu.edu             	    school of computer science
: carnegie mellon university  5000 forbes     pittsburgh, pa 15213 3891
: 
: 
: 
: 
Hey, cool! I'd be most interested. 

PowerBars and water or potatoes and milk... Hard to say which would be worse
:-)

Rabbi
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: sp@u36.kwnet.on.ca (Sean P Goggin)
Subject: Bike Permits, Info wanted.
Organization: U36 Research
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:53:16 GMT
Distribution: na

Greetings All,

Does your community have a bicycle licence or permit ?

How much does it cost ?

How long is it valid for ?

Does it provide any tangible benefit to you ?
	e.g. anti-theft control, recovery after theft, 
	     verification of local bicycle population.

Please email sp@bbi.kwnet.on.ca and I'll post a summary.

Thanks,

	SP
	     	


Sean P. Goggin
251, Bridge Street West, Waterloo, Ontario, Canada N2K 1L1
Voice +1 519 746 7535 Fax +1 519 747 2933 
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From: budn@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Bud Noren)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:12:59 GMT
Subject: Re: Tandem syndrome strikes again
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc

jfw1@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (james.f.whitehead) writes:

>OK, I give up. What's the attraction of tandem riding that, say, a
>ride together on two bikes fails to deliver? My wife and I both ride
>for moderate fitness, relaxation, and (in my case) exploring the backroads
>of surprisingly pleasant New Jersey. Occasionally we ride together,
>but much more often solo. When we rider together, the occasional stop or
>very quiet road that we can ride side-by-side provides plenty of opportunity
>for conversation. I know for sure I don't have much interest in looking
>at a sweaty back for an hour or two at a time, and I suspect my wife
>feels likewise.

>So what am I missing?

Two average riders on a tandem have a chance at staying with the fast group 
on club rides that aren't very hilly.

-Bud
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: M16302@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Knee problem
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:08:28 GMT

I have a 19 year history of chondro from playing table tennis.  Cycling, luckil
y, in reasonable moderation helps mine.  My orthopedist, the Wash bullets
basketball team Dr Haas says that surgery can help chondor only if it is very
localized  He says that is about 50%.  If its is dispersed, there isn't much
you can do.  My chondro caused a bad tennis accident -- torn ligament, etc.
when one of the rough spots caused my knee to lock at an unfortunate time.
Another physician told me that cartilege grows until you're thirty five so
excersize may help before that age but not in us old folks.  A famous knee
Dr. is Steadman in Vail Colo.  Not far from bicycling country in Boulder.   Doe
s that help
In article <1992Oct10.060419.6586@netcom.com>
tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich) writes:
 
>
>Like just about everything else about your body, Chondromalacia
>Patellae comes in varying degrees. I understand that it is somewhat
>common in any sport that exercises the knee violently.
>
>It's most mild form is a slight irritation that can grow into a
>semi-serious roughening of the rubbing surfaces of the patella.
>If you feel pain 'under' the kneecap it is recommended that you
>take it easy for a week or so.
>
>This mild form is generally caused by a great increase in mileage
>or difficulty -- climbing hills in big gears seems to be the most
>common trigger. Given rest, turning smaller gears and careful
>attention to your bodies complaints generally is all that's required
>for this ailment.
>
>If you continue to press on when you have this problem though, it can
>become rather serious. There are micro-surgical procedures now for
>repairing the damagethat Chondromalacia can do, but they can't make
>your patella as good as new.
>
>Exercises to strengthen the quads equally are fine but for the vast
>majority of riders all that is necessary is to allow your muscles
>time to build up. Most of us will devlop balanced quads but they will
>develop at different rates. If you press your training regimen faster
>than your body can develop, you might hurt yourself and Chondromalacia
>Patellae can become serious enough to end your ability to ride.
>
>Listen to your body -- don't overstress yourself and ry to convince
>yourself that "no pain, no gain" works in every case. Your knees are
>one area that you have to be careful of if you cycle.
>
>But, after all, most people aren't capable of injuring themselves
>seriously simply by riding. The pain is enough to control most
>riders and limit their exposure.
>
>Chondromalacia in it's worse forms is very rare in cyclists and if
>you get knee pains it is probably from a variety of other far less
>serious (though dreadfully painful) reasons.
>
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: cashman@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Geoff Cashman)
Subject: Info needed on painting
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 03:17:33 GMT


Greetings,

I have a ~4/5 year old Trek 300 that I would like to repaint.  I've
never had a bike repainted before (I always seemed to wear out
the frames before it needed it...this is my first 'real' bike).
I asked my local favorite bike shop (which also happens to be
dealers for Trek) and they said it would cost from $120-150.

Yikes.  I'm not sure the bike is WORTH that much at it's age
(despite continuing to perform beautifully for me).

So, I would like to get some general information and "where to look"s
on how I might go about repainting the old lady myself.

Anything you think might be relevant would be useful since I 
have not a clue about repainting a bike. 

E-mail preferred...

			- Geoff Cashman


Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: pardo@cs.washington.edu (David Keppel)
Subject: Re: Immaculate GT Avalanche For Sale
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 04:36:54 GMT

Somebody in `rec.bicycles.marketplace' posted that he sent e-mail to
`frankw' about this article's crossposting (separate posts), and he
received the considered reply of:

> fuck you, asshole

I didn't save the posting but it's there if you want to see it.  Really,
*I* wouldn't want to do business with him after that.  It's also amazing
how much one bad egg sullies the reputation of a place.

    ;-D on  ( "I came here for an argument, not abuse" -- Monty Python )  Pardo

In article <frankw.718402875@keckiris> frankw@rice.edu (Frank Whitby) writes:
>
>October 10, 1992
>Frank Whitby
>Houston TX
>frankw@rice.edu
>
>Immaculate GT Avalanche For Sale
>
>18 inch, 1990 model purchased new in spring, 1991.
>Less than 500 easy miles on it.
>All Deore DX components, Araya RM-17 anodized, Ritchy
>tires, etc. all in perfect condition.
>An excellent high performance MTB.  $600.00 o.b.o.
>
>
>--
>...............................................................................
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