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From: wsonnen@alnitak.usc.edu (Wayne Sonnen)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Recipe for CRACK & Personal Experiences Requested
Date: 17 Dec 1992 12:18:30 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1992Dec17.063720.7740@ennews.eas.asu.edu> prado@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Louis A. Prado) writes:
>I expect to get flamed for this post, but Crack is about the only drug that
>is readily available to me (back home in Queens of course :) ).  First of
>all, does anyone know exactly what Crack is made of (just Coke and Baking
>Soad?).  Please E-Mail or post a recipe.
>
>What is the general opinon on the net of coke & its derivatives ?  And to
>you real stoners out there, what would be the drug you would recommend to
>someone who just wanted to try drugs once ?
>
>Thanks.
>
Crack is nothing but cocaine. I know of two ways to 'rock' it. 
One is using pure ammonia and the other is using baking soda.
I won't give a recipie because i think that its best to have a friend
show you how to rock the stuff. Its very simple and once you see it done,
you shouldn't have any problem.

When you rock it using ammonia it concentrates the stuff, where as using
baking soda, you actually dilute (by adding the baking soda) the stuff.
The only difference is that with ammonia your hits should be smaller.
When rocking with ammonia you should be sure to let the stuff sit
so that the ammonia can evaporate---leave it in a vile for example
uncovered for a few days. 

The high from smoking this stuff is very excellent and easily understandable
to see how people could become addicted (i use the term addicted loosely,
 to mean that they want to do it again and again). 

*********************************************************

I have a question for the network that i asked a few days ago but
received no reply to. I'll ask it again:

I'd like to grow my own coca plants. I don't subscribe to 'High Times'
or anything similar, so i don't know if there are advertisments that
claim to sell seeds for coca plants. Does anyone know anything about
growing these plants? Would you be willing to share some of your knowledge
about where to get seeds, information (eg. recommended books, etc.) on
how to grow them, and how to extract the cocaine. Yes, i could chew the
plants if i could grow them, but i'd like to know what all is involved
in the growing/extraction process.

Your comments are appreciated.

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From: smidt@fy.chalmers.se (Peter Smidt)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:40:15 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

In article <1992Dec12.034414.15916@henson.cc.wwu.edu> n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>	There is simply no connection between strychnine and LSD.  One is
>a drug, the other is a deadly pest poison.

LSD is a deadly poison too. Take a spoon full... Strychnine will reduce
pain to athletics and is therefore forbidden.
-- 
+=======================================+
"The whole valley is like a smorgasbord."
					-- TREMORS
From: co940@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Nicholas E. Damato)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: To: Greg@Antizen (Was RE: Yerba Mate)
Date: 12 Dec 92 19:17:22 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Greg, I tried to answer you e-mail question but the message        
bounced, I pay $8.43/Lb. for Yerba Mate at a local natural
foods store, most natural food places if they don't stock it
should be able to order it.
ned.              
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Subject: Re: Interview with William S. Burroughs and David Cronenberg
Keywords: William S. Burroughs David Cronenberg Naked Lunch Revulsion
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:01:12 GMT

c60a-zo@volga.Berkeley.EDU () writes:
>~Esquire~, Feb 1992, pg. 112-116
>Interview with William S. Burroughs and David Cronenberg
>gathered to enjoy some drinks. Burroughs was packing a Star .380 automatic.
>At one point in the festivities, he said to his wife, who was sitting in a
>chair across the room, ``I guess it's about time for our William Tell
>act.'' They'd never performed a William Tell act in their lives, but Joan,
>who was drinking heavily and undergoing withdrawal from a heavy amphetamine
>habit, and who had lived with Burroughs for five years, was game. She
>placed a highball glass on top of her head. Burroughs, known to be a good
>shot, was sitting about six feet away. His explanation for missing was not
>that his aim was off, but that this gun shot low. The bullet struck Joan in

	That's like saying that it was not because his aim was off,
but that her head was too high.   There is no pistol that shoots low
at 6 feet, and not that pistol, in any case.  Both the act and the
excuse are incredible stupidity.

>the head. She died almost immediately.

>The judge in Mexico believed the shooting to be accidental, as the other
>people present in the room asserted that this was the case. And so after
>paying a lawyer $2,000 and serving thirteen days in jail, Burroughs was
>allowed to post $2,312 and was freed.

That seems pretty wacky, kill someone and get 13 days in jail.

	There was that guy who killed 27 kids in a schoolbus in similar
circumstances, what did he get, 120 years?

JD
From: honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: Banana Peels : MYTH or FACT?
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 12 Dec 92 20:12:09 GMT

There's a certain species of toad that inhabits banana fields, and
accumulates both bananadine and strychnine from the plant.  Desparate
natives are known to commit acts of oral beastiality to get off.
Don't let this happen to you.


--
David Honig

"Q: What does a C programmer say to an Ada(tm) programmer?
 A: I'll have a burger and fries, no onions."
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey)
Subject: Behavior on Acid
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 13:58:37 GMT

(lots deleted, and Subject: line changed - was "re: personal problems")

In article <1992Dec9.184119.26165@linus.mitre.org> lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
>She won't believe your stories about high rewards until she tries it.  And
>she won't try it until she is comfortable with it.  Maybe seeing that it
>doesn't turn you into a monster will convince her.
>
>A FOAF was talking to a guy in a bar once.  After about half an hour, the
>guy whipped out a joint.
>
>Guy:   Be sure to keep that joint down.  I don't want to get busted.
>FOAF:  Drug laws are really ridiculous, don't you think?  [takes hit]
>Guy:   Marijuana laws, yes.  But I think hard drugs should be illegal.
>FOAF:  Does that include LSD?
>Guy:   Definitely.  That stuff makes you crazy.  [takes hit]
>FOAF:  I'm tripping my ass off right now, you know.
>Guy:   [coughing up hit] Really??  You seem so -- normal!

Yep - I've had similar things happen. I remember once when four of us were
tripping at school, and we were hanging around in my room smoking from a
bong. A friend from across the hall came in, and we insinuated that at
least some of us were tripping. We wonderered if he could figure out which
ones. He thought that two of us were (the two that had smoked the most; I
was not one of those he picked). When we told him we *all* were, he
couldn't believe it!

That's one reason I really like psychedelics as opposed to other drugs,
such as pot. Pot makes me confused and dysfunctional (which isn't to say
it's not fun), and I exhibit definite observable behavioral difficulties.
But I could be, like the FOAF, "tripping my ass off", and as long as I
don't "lose it" and go off into another world, I'll appear completely
normal, even though my "normal" and the observer's "normal" have little in
common.

I like Keith's idea of dosing w/o telling your girlfriend, but I would
suggest taking less than your "99%" dose. While nothing can be 100%, in
this case it would be *bad* to weird out. Play it safe if you do this.

--Erik

-- 
Erik Bailey   | Cambridge Technology Partners      | The usual disclaimer
              | 304 Vassar St., Cambridge MA 02139 | applies: this post is
ebail@ctp.com | (617) 374-8418                     | mine, not my employer's.
      /earth is 98% full; please remove any excess inhabitants.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Need to match drug to description
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:34:17 GMT

bed3@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Benjamin E Delfin) writes:
>Hallucinogen, three letter name, begins with D.  Read about it in
>the Voice.
>Sends you on an inner trip into time and space, and dumps you back into
>the real world 15 minutes later.
>
>And is it controlled?

DMT.

Offhand I think so, but I'd have to check out Shulgin's Controlled Substances
Act.

5-MeO-DMT is legal last I heard, but the place that was selling it got
so flooded with requests that they shut down. 

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
From: jrm@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:00:44 -0500

In article <1992Dec15.164650.25162@ctp.com>, ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey) writes:
> In article <If_xP4i00iUz43g88S@andrew.cmu.edu> "Stephen M. Lacy" <sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>I just want to say that the apparent knowledge of drugs on the network
>>and the volume of people that have significant knowledge makes me
>>utterly sick.  Is there something about computers that forces you all to
>>take drugs, or do you just hang out with people who and that's how you
>>get your knowledge.... anyways, you'll tell me that YOU don't really DO
>>them, but I won't believe you.
> 
> Why does this bother you so much? Do you drink coffee? Do you drink beer?
> If the answer is yes, then you are taking drugs. Well, if I am going to put
> stuff into my body, I like to be informed about what it is and what it
> does. Doesn't that seem reasonable? So, for the coffee and beer example, I
> [...]

	PURITAN : [noun] ; Someone who lies awake at night worried
	that someone, somewhere, is having a good time.

	You are arguing with a Puritan ? Forget it. To such a person,
	less is always more. Everything you forbid yourself, esp
	if it's something good like sex, likker or dope, is just
	another measure of how superior you are to everyone else.
	Denial is good. Ignorance is good. Freedom is slavery ...
	you know the basic theme ...

	In short, Puritanism = Egotism. 

	To frustrate Puritans ... (a) Never use words like
	'purity', 'innocence' or 'sacrifice' - always
	substitute the terms 'blandness', 'ignorance' and
	'masochism' in their place. 

	Since much of the underlying culture of the USA was
	shaped by Puritians and/or people with similar
	ideals, the national sense of 'goodness' is tilted
	in their favor. By ALWAYS using the more accurate
	terms when discussing issues, by ALWAYS assuming
	that MORE is more and that Knowledge is Bliss -
	you can weaken their advantage.

	BTW - beware creating a 'Dope is Great' subculture.
	It will be as full of bullshit and dogma as anything
	a Puritan could concoct. Dope is only fair ... and
	presents many problems. In the 30 years of dopes
	mass popularity, I've yet to see any decent 'cosmic
	revelations' or a solution for hatred or even a
	cheap car that drives good. Dope is idle entertainment.
	The best goal is to stop persecuting people for
	choosing such entertainment. 
-- JM 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:53:22 GMT

cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton) writes:
: 
: : you might want to try acetone (easily available)  It probably wouldn't damage 
:   Could someone please post the contra-indications for acetone?  It strikes
: me that this would not be a good idea, at least in terms of chronic effects.

Certainly. It is highly flammable - hardly a substance to be playing around
with in the presence of lsd.  It dries out the oils in the skin. It is a
skin irritant. It is poisonous when inhaled. Do I need to post more exact
information to show why this would be a stupid idea, as P. Clifton so ably
stated.

Bill
From: @symphony.cc.purdue.edu (null pointer)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:00:36 GMT
Organization: Purdue UNiveniversityurdue UNiversityniversity

In article <1992Dec14.211417.28466@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>: 	Spelling flames are really lame.  Is this all you could come up with
>: to use as an attack on the boy?
>
>It is not a flame - it was a comment on a simple (and very easy to verify)
>fact. 
>
>If I were to attack the person, I would call him a brain-dead idiot, or
>something similar. I might even use phrases such as "the boy".
>The person was making incorrect postings - based on what appears to be 
>conjecture - maybe because he "never has a need to go to the library."
>After the postings were rebutted, he posted the above bitch. I completed
>the bitch - since he left something out.
>
>There are a number of very competent organic chemists, who post here. Bitching
>about people actually doing research to verify their facts is, to me, more
>than slightly rude.

	Thanks, that's better.

	As far as the spelling problem goes, Mal3, if you'd really like, you can
mail me your posts before you do so and I will set up a daemon that will
run spell checker on them and remail them to you.  I think I can do that -- yeah
I can do that.

	I can't check your sources for you, but may i recommend at LEAST 
checking, like, gopher or WAIS or something before you get yourself charbroiled?

	I still think attacks for spelling should be confined to email, as 
waving a banner that reads "Malaclypse the even younger never met Webster" will
only put this person on the defensive and make the flamebacks even more
inane and/or inarticulate.  Just a recommendation.

My posting does not neccesarily reflect the opinions of my employer, but as
i am self-employed and do not have MPD, it is likely that they do.

						Sean
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From: bz269@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James D. Del Vecchio)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.psychoactives,sci.med
Subject: Re: MJ neurotransmitter found, opiate receptor cloned (Jour: Science)
Date: 19 Dec 1992 05:14:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bz269@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James D. Del Vecchio)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) says:

>(UPI)
>	The findings could enable researchers to develop drugs that have the
>beneficial effects of marijuana, such as relieving pain, reducing blood
>pressure and nausea and pressure in the eye from glaucoma, without
>producing the psychotropic effects, he said.

	That's a tall order.  They might as well be wishing for effective 
opiate painkillers that aren't addictive.  

>	The discovery of a receptor for opiates could help researchers
>searching for non-addictive painkillers and for helping alleviate
>withdrawal symptoms for addicts.

;-)
	...findings that could enable researchers to develop 
nutritious food without all those nasty calories.

	The painkilling and the tolerance causing effects are one
and the same, from everything I've seen about it.

Jim Del Vecchio
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: khat
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:25:57 GMT

In article 18558@husc15.harvard.edu, blom@husc15.harvard.edu () writes:
>OK.  Look, people.  The thing many of you are calling khat is not khat.  Khat
>is the stimulant prepared from Catha Edulis, and it is hardly all that much
>stronger than caffeine.  This other synthetic chemical is something else
>entirely.

Go on.  We're listening.

gak

---
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Internet:            gak@wrs.com |----GO----| Tuesday's much the same
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Cow Palace:            107/H/3-4 |----------| Thursday's back again

(Am I in a rotten mood today or what?)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo)
Subject: Re: The ungrateful dead (grass doesn't kill)
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:14:21 GMT

wisp@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Wisp) writes:

>>> There is no "lethal dose" of marijuana.
>>

>Finally, the point I was making was that it *is* horseshit to say that
>there is no lethal dose of marijuana. I stand by that: it's like saying
>there's no lethal dose of alcohol, or tobacco, or sugar. The fact that the
>lethal dose cannot be feasibly consumed in the case of marijuana is
>neither here nor there...

Then what on earth was your original point??? That there is, in fact, a 
lethal dose of marijuana? There's a lethal dose of water, there is a
lethal dose of oxygen and I'll bet you dimes to dollars there is a lethal
dose of many 70's sitcoms. Who cares? The point is you will NEVER reach
that point.


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From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: "Drugs" threaten democracy in former Soviet Union
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:18:43 GMT
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

>: What is the incentive for the convict to work?  If they don't get paid
>: enough to make them want to work, they just won't.  What are you going
>: to do, starve them?

I've had friends in prison who tell me that work assignments were considered
privileges. The idea of being transported to the the prison farm and spending
a day outside was much better than another 24 hours in a small cell. "Chain
gang" type labor would be a different matter of course. The biggest worry for
me about some of these camps is that if you eliminate the prison crowding 
problem and even make prisons profitable you eliminate the need to review
the reasons we're putting so many people in prison. I still think the Chinese
prisons are a good example of the possible abuse. Why reform when you're making 
a profit?
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From: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The ungrateful dead (grass doesn't kill)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 00:41:39 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden) writes:

>If it turns out that you need to eat something the size of a small car,
>or that no one has ever died from marijuana poisoning, then perhaps 
>you'd be a sportsman and retract your claim.

This issue keeps turning up, and I can't resist the chance to
cite the Le Dain Royal Commission Report on the Non Medical Use
of Drugs (1970, which recommended decriminalisation of marijuana).

The commission reported 1 death known to be due to marijuana. The
case involved a young man who died of a distended stomach following
a profound bout of over-eating after he consumed a large amount
of hash. Terminal munchies.

Oh, sorry; that's Canada, for those who don't know who justice Le
Dain was working for.
-- 
John Collier 			Email: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
HPS -- U. of Melbourne		  	Fax:   +61 3 344 7959
Parkville, Victoria, AUSTRALIA 3052
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From: linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The ungrateful dead (grass doesn't kill)
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:56:37 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: positive

The ungrateful, undead wisp@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Wisp) claims:
>  Marijuana (or its active components, anyway) are strong sedatives
>  and will kill you by respiratory failure if given in high enough dose.

I challenged with:
> Perhaps you could back up your claim, by citing some deaths
> from respiratory failure caused by the ingestion of marijuana? 

Wisp 'fessed up:
> ... no-one has ever died from respiratory failure after smoking marijuana.

Come on Chris, listen to yourself:
   1. "Marijuana will kill you by respiratory failure if you take enough"
   2. "Marijuana has never killed anyone by respiratory failure"

Regardless of arguments over whether a "lethal dose" whose size is
approximately twice the body weight of a person, is meaningful,
you are trying to purvey an urban legend that marijuana is dangerous,
and will kill you by respiratory failure if you overdose on it.
That is nonsense, and with your medical training you should know it.

It's an international scandal that some governments try to suppress
a relaxant which is far, far less harmful than tobacco or alcohol.  It's
especially wicked that the medicinal properties of marijuana have recently
been denied to AIDS patients, glaucoma sufferers and the terminally-ill
in the US by executive mandate.

--
                    no .sig, have got a life instead.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Why ask the net for facts? was Re: Halcion Horror?
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:16:16 GMT

honig@binky.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig) writes:
>If you're intersted in facts, why ask the net?  Halcion is a legit
>drug upon which seriuos study is being done.  Asking the net except for
>pointers to the lit is a waste of time.  For illicits, for which
>there is far less literature, it makes a little more sense.

Yeah, but those studies could be improperly interpreted...  At the least
the net here seems to have the principle of "don't blame the chemical
for a social problem" down fairly good.  Lots of studies don't address
that -- For example they just say that X% of people that take Y drug get Z
symptoms, QED its higher than average.  That doesn't tell you shit without
some kind of interpretation of why its higher than average.

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
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