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From: mapike@sei.cmu.edu (Mary Ann Pike)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: Phantom at Kennywood
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:21:36 GMT
Organization: Software Engineering Institute

In article <167C397CD.KROBINSO@kentvm.kent.edu> KROBINSO@kentvm.kent.edu) (Kara k) writes:
>Hi,  I just saw an article about the Steel Phantom coaster at Kennywood.
>Can anyone tell me if it is awesome as it sounds?  Will it be worth the
>drive to PA?  Thanks.

Considering that you're only in Ohio, I'd say it was worth the drive (I
think it's worth driving from Pittsburgh to Cincinnati to ride the Beast!)
I haven't experienced anything like screaming down the 200+ ft drop into
a 180 turn and back up the hill (at 80+ mph) on any other ride I've been 
on. It's the only coaster-type ride that has left me physically unable to 
focus my eyes for about 15 or 20 seconds when the ride is finished. Very 
impressive. The twist on the first drop is a nice effect, also.


Mary Ann Pike   (mapike@sei.cmu.edu) 
Software Engineering Institute       
Carnegie-Mellon University           
Pittsburgh PA                        
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: swamp@nrtpa22.bnr.ca (Steve Swamp)
Subject: Re: Phantom at Kennywood
Keywords: Phantom Kennywood
Reply-To: swamp@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Research Triangle Park, NC
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:35:56 GMT

In article <167C397CD.KROBINSO@kentvm.kent.edu>, KROBINSO@kentvm.kent.edu) (Kara k) writes:
|> Hi,  I just saw an article about the Steel Phantom coaster at Kennywood.
|> Can anyone tell me if it is awesome as it sounds?  Will it be worth the
|> drive to PA?  Thanks.

In my opinion, it is. I grew up around it, so I'm a little biased. All in all,
it's a fun park with a lot of history and a chance to ride some good wooden coasters.
As far as the Phantom is concerned, it is DEFINITELY worth going just to ride it.
Being somewhat of a coaster nut (one year I rode the thunderbolt 25 times in a row - 
it was rainy-no lines :-), I think it's hard to beat based on shear speed. It's the
only coaster I've been on that when people get off the ride, their hair is blown back
from the speed. It does tend to wear you down a little, though. A fried of mine rode
it 4 times one day last year, and after that his neck was sore and he didn't want to
ride it any more...
 

-- 
steve swamp                       BNR
email: swamp@bnr.ca               Research Triangle Park, NC
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From: boccibob@media.mit.edu (Robert Ramstad)
Subject: Ninja at SFMM
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:57:26 GMT

I've ridden the Ninja, Iron Dragon and Vortex.  Vortex is a great suspended
coaster... and it seems really good in every seat, though of course, it's
a bit better in the front visually.

Ninja is a great ride, my friend John Reaume, serious coaster rider, rated
the front seat ride as a dead heat with Big Bad Wolf (Vortex hadn't been
built yet).  However, we both thought that it lost something as you went back
farther in the train.  My suspicion is that the thrills on Ninja depend more
on quick twisting transitions in the track, if you watch the Ninja as it
goes along, each successive car is deflected less and less as you go back
in the train.  I.E.  the front car swings back and forth a lot more than the
back car.  This is also true of Vortex, but there seems to be more "swooping"
and a bit more emphasis on speed with Vortex, as opposed to Ninja which does
a lot more thrashing from side to side.  The lack of sharp thrashing twists
also lets Vortex sustain speed a bit more, IMHO.

Just some subjective comments.  Both are great rides, I definitely think that
Vortex, BBW and Ninja are in the same league, while Iron Dragon sux.  Vortex
is the best overall, but I think that a front seat ride on Ninja is arguably
as good of a ride as Vortex (definitely different in character, too, due
to the "thrashing" rapid transitions which aren't as marked in Vortex).  The
rest of the train in Ninja is not nearly as good as Vortex.

Bob
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: CNE Flyer -- IN DANGER!
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:10:38 GMT
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

As reported this month in ACE News, Inside Track, and
the Gravity Gazette:

The FLYER coaster (1953 Davis-Mckee Dbl out-and-back) at 
the CNE (Canadian National Exhibition -- Toronto, Ontario, 
Canada) is in danger of being razed!!

Reports say the CNE midway is to be moved in the near future,
with a new building to be errected on the currect midway 
site, which is home to the 1953 woodie.  Conklin Shows usually
brings in their midway for two events at the site per year.
The decision has been made NOT to move the coaster along with
the midway (for maintanence/monitary reasons), and reports
speculate the woodie will not run at all in 1992.

The woodie has been put up for sale, although terms and
conditions have not been disclosed.  Any and all interested
parties should contact the Conklin office ASAP!  It is urged 
that enthusiasts spread the word of the coasters FOR SALE status
to local parks.  It appears the woodie may not be standing for
too much longer!!  8^(


Buck
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
From: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: New Busch park to be built in Spain!
Reply-To: buck@cavlry.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 19:39:05 GMT

As of April 1, Busch Entertainment and Tibidabo
S.A. announced they will have a $300 million 
theme park in Spain by 1995.  Building will
begin later this year.

B.
From: Dale English@watson.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: SFGA (Gurnee,IL) Announces the new ride!!
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:30:27 GMT
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

Let me put in my two cents' worth of stuff on BATMAN the ride at Great
America.

I personally don't mind a ride having a certain thematic.  I liked the theme
of Disaster Transport more than the ride, and the thematics for the Big Bad
Wolf are phenomenal.  The question I have is what is Six Flags going to do with
the ride once the Batman fad dies down again?  What happens if Batman suffers
"sequel syndrome" and bombs?  How many times can you revive this dead horse?
I loved Batman the movie and will definately see Batman Returns, and if I
could get out to Gurnee, I would certainly ride Batman the ride, but what do
they do with it next year?

"Will their big budget blockbuster be a bat-bomb?"

Dale "Drachen Fire" English
From: cee1@ra.msstate.edu (Charles Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: SFGA (Gurnee,IL) Announces the new ride!!
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:00:51 GMT
Organization: Mississippi State University

aweir@ttd.teradyne.com writes:


>	Well, I just received our season pass renewal package and I am pleased
>to quote the flyers description of the new ride:

>	"This year, Six Flags presents the most unique thrill ride on earth.
>	It's the world's first and only suspended, outside-looping, nothing-
>	below-your-chair-but-air...roller coaster experience. If you think
>	you have experienced the ultimate in thrill rides, guess again.
>	BATMAN(tm) The Ride will change the definition of thrills. Sweeping
>	across the skies of GOTHAM CITY(tm), as you fly BATMAN(tm) The Ride,
>	you'll say, "THERE'S NOTHING LIKE IT ON EARTH!""

>	Sound's like good 'copy' to me! From what I can see on my way to work
>they still have a way to go to finish the project. but there is still four
>weeks to go until opening day. I'll report my findings after my first ride(s).

>		Alan

>	Roll on May 2nd.

sounds like the Big Bad Wolf at BG the Old Country. Wished it had loops..

I sorta need some help also.

I need info on prices for one day/two day passes at Carowinds. Will be with
a friend in Belmont, NC (Charlotte) for about 10 days from May 15-24. Will
it be open full time by then? thanks

chuck

-- 
Charles E. Evans           /  o     / Whereforeseeingwealsoarecompassedabout
cee1@ra.msstate.edu       / ./|\   / withsogreatacloudofwitnesses,letuslayaside
cee1@isis.msstate.edu    /   /|'  / everyweight,andthesindothsoeasilybesetus,
cee1@msstate.bitnet     /    , ' / andletusRUNwithpatiencetheracethatissetB4us.
From: rjv21207@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Vose)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Re: SFGA (Gurnee,IL) Announces the new ride!!
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:58:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr6.235830.23127
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Dale English@watson.ibm.com writes:


>I personally don't mind a ride having a certain thematic.  I liked the theme
>of Disaster Transport more than the ride, and the thematics for the Big Bad

You know, you're right.  Disaster Transport without the goodies is just another
bobsled.  They did a great job with it, though.

>Wolf are phenomenal.  The question I have is what is Six Flags going to do with
>the ride once the Batman fad dies down again?  What happens if Batman suffers
>"sequel syndrome" and bombs?  How many times can you revive this dead horse?
>I loved Batman the movie and will definately see Batman Returns, and if I
>could get out to Gurnee, I would certainly ride Batman the ride, but what do
>they do with it next year?

That was my original argument!  Thank goodness... I thought I was being too
critical of SF there for a moment or two! Whew... :)

>"Will their big budget blockbuster be a bat-bomb?"

That's a good one...  TO THE BAT-QUEUE!

Randy

vose@ibma0.cs.uiuc.edu
From: mapike@sei.cmu.edu (Mary Ann Pike)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Info wanted on Texas Amusement Parks
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:34:52 GMT

My husband is probably going to Usenix in San Antonio June 8-12 and I'm
going to try to arrange to go along. We also will probably visit some
friends in Dallas after the conference. Not being at all familiar with that
part of the country, what parks are down there (and what are their good
roller coasters)? Is there any place that is worth making a special trip 
to (anything near Dallas or San Antonio is definite, but if there is any 
other place worthwhile within a 4-5 hour drive, we may consider that, too)?
By the way, just how far is it to drive from San Antonio to Dallas?

I have not yet got around to joining ACE. Do any of the Texas parks have
ACE discounts that would make it worth my while to join asap?

Also, my husband does not ride at the parks. Will anyone be at Usenix
and going to any of the parks that week? (At least most of the parks let
singles ride, but it's always more fun to stand in line with someone else.)

Thanks,

Mary Ann Pike   (mapike@sei.cmu.edu)  
Software Engineering Institute        
Carnegie-Mellon University            
Pittsburgh PA                                   
From: nederost@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Tom Nederost)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 14:59:50 GMT
Subject: Re: Six Flags--which one?
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster

Six Flags Corporation has 7 theme parks and 1 water park in the U.S.  Although
they don't classify their parks differently, there are basically three 
categories based on size of the park, number of attractions, annual attendance,
etc.  I'll try and classify these here along with their locations:

Mega Parks:

	Six Flags Magic Mountain  - Valencia, CA (near Los Angeles)
	Six Flags Great America   - Gurnee, IL (near Chicago)
	Six Flags Great Adventure - Jackson, NJ (2 hours from New York City)

The Original Six Flags Parks (large, but not mammoth):

	Six Flags over Texas      - Arlington, TX (near Dallas)
	Six Flags over Georgia    - Austell, GA (near Atlanta)

Smaller Parks:
	
	Six Flags over Mid-America- Eureka, MO (near St. Louis)
	Six Flags AstroWorld      - Houston, TX (shares parking w/ AstroDome)

Water Park:
	
	Six Flags WaterWorld      - Houston, TX (adjacent to AstroWorld)


The Mega Parks have the majority of the record holding coasters in the
country as well as most of the newest thrill rides.

BTW, beginning this year, if you buy a Seasons Pass to any of the Six
Flags parks, it will be honored at all other Six Flags parks as well...
quite a deal if you plan to visit other areas of the country!

Hope that helps,

Tom
nederost@hpcc01.corp.hp.com
From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka)
Newsgroups: rec.roller-coaster
Subject: Drachen Fire
Summary: ooh!  ooh!
Date: 13 Apr 92 02:37:57 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park

Guess it's time for another rave for the Drachen Fire at Busch Gardens'
The Olde Country.

This is a _great_ ride.  It verges on brutal, which is fine with me!  My
only complaint was that there isn't really a big drop, because almost
immediately after cresting the first hill, you drop into a corkscrew.  On
the other hand, this is one of the greatest aspects of the ride--I've
never been on an inversion that occurs so far above the ground.  It's just
plain creepy the first time!  

I'm not sure why this coaster worked so well for me.  Kings Island's Vortex,
for instance, has most of the same elements (and a great first drop), but
it simply doesn't compare to the Drachen Fire.  There's just something about
the combination of the elements and the order in which they're placed.

Lines were relatively short today, maybe between 10 and 25 minutes (as
compared the the Questor simulator, which had hour-long lines).  And with
the excitement over the new ride, lines at the Loch Ness Monster and the
Big Bad Wolf were rather short.

Which brings the topic around to the Big Bad Wolf, which I finally got to
ride today (last time I was at the park, it was shut down).  This was the
first time I'd been on a suspended coaster, and it was totally cool.  I
kind of wish it was longer and taller, but I'll settle for what I can get.
What is the current feeling on suspended coasters?  Are parks interested
in them?  Or is it just a novelty?

Jeff
From: lacausa@amherst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.afro-latin
Subject: The His Panic mailing list has arrived
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:31:08 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.


 
        Hola, me llamo Gilberto and I am the co-chair of La Causa (the Latino
 student group of Amherst College). I am writing this letter because I am 
 interested in trying to set up some kind of communication among Latinos at
 different colleges and universities. I have managed to convince the people
 in the computer center to give us two e-mail addresses which we can use in
 order to communicate with Latinos nationwide. Such a list can be used for a 
 variety of purposes including: 
 
   1) Inform one another about conferences and events happening
      on other campuses.
 
   2) Share information about how to effectively organize as students.
 
   3) Find more effective ways of recruiting and holding onto Latino students
      and faculty.
 
   4) Talk about ways to change the curriculum so that it starts to deal with
      concerns specific to Latinos in the U.S. (e.g. Hispanic-American Studies 
      programs)
 
   5) Get access to news about Latino students that probably is not availiable 
      through the 'mainstream' student magazines about campus life.
 
   6) Meet people who have a similar background and interest. (e.g. Afro-Latin
      studies is an area where it is not easy to get lots of information through
      the library and a mailing list might make it easier for people to get the
      names of books or references which others have found useful)
 
        I am sure that there are other things that a Latino mailing list could
 be used for and it would really be up to its members to decide what direction
 it should take. 
 
        If you are interested and want to subscribe, or have any comments that
 you want to send specifically to the person taking care of the list (that's me)
 then send a message to:
 
               latino-l-request@amherst.edu
 
  If you want to use the list and distribute a message, article, announcement,
  poem or whatever to all of the people participating in the list then send a
  message to: 
 
              latino-l@amherst.edu
 
 
 
 and also: if you know of anybody who might want to participate in the list 
           please forward this letter to them so that word of this can get out.
 
    gracias
 
 -Gilberto
 
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.afro-latin,rec.music.bluenote
From: eric@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (Eric Majani)
Subject: Fernando Girao
Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:20:17 GMT

I went last night to the monthly free Jazz concert at UCLA's
Wadsworth theater, where the Brazilian guitarist Ricardo Silveira
was playing with some guest artists, among which were Flora Purim,
Airto Moreira and Fernando Girao.

I did not care much about Ricardo Silveira personally, but
I have to say I really liked Fernando Girao's performance as a
vocalist, especially in vocal improvisations. But then when I tried
to find any album of his in record stores which have a good selection
of international music, I did not find anything by him.

Does anybody know if he has made a CD which is available anywhere?
Thanks.

-Eric Majani

Newsgroups: rec.music.afro-latin
From: kamine@is.rice.edu (Jorge Hershel Kamine)
Subject: Irakere
Organization: Rice University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:23:08 GMT

I am looking for info on where to buy re-releases of music by a
band called Irakere.  Please send me e-mail at kamine@is.rice.edu

						Thanks

						Jorge Kamine
From: kk@aisb.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.afro-latin
Subject: Thomas Mampfumo
Date: 14 Apr 92 10:11:21 GMT
Reply-To: kk@aisb.ed.ac.uk ()
Organization: Dept AI, Edinburgh University, Scotland

I tried to respond by email through two different routes but none of
the addresses given worked....


I have in my paw two tapes of Thomas Mampfumo that I bought in Zim
a couple of years ago. One is called `Hokoyo!' and the other
`Chimurenga for Justice'. I presume the latter is what you're after.
It has the words `Marketed by Gramma' on the sleeve and also
`l4 Rough 91' in the sort of place you'd expect the company name and
pressing number. The other one is apparently on `Teal', the
number being `ZASLP 5000'. I think these are locally produced ones.
You may find better produced in the UK (although these are decent
quality) as he does come here sometimes...in fact he was here in
Embro' in Princes St. gardens last summer...or was it the one before?

kathleen

--
---------------------------------
Kathleen King (kk@uk.ac.ed.aisb) 
Dept of AI, University of Edinburgh,
80 South Bridge, Edinburgh EH1 1HN.
Newsgroups: rec.music.afro-latin
From: TW.MD7@isumvs.iastate.edu (Jane Anderson)
Subject: ORIGIN OF SALSA
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:27:58 GMT

I need some help settling a friendly dispute between
a Colombian friend and a Puerto Rican friend, of mine.
One says that salsa (both music and dance) originated
in Puerto Rico, the other says it's origins are more
related to the the western coast of S.America, or other
islands in the carribean. We all know that salsa spans
all of Latin America, but does anyone know its TRUE
roots? Any information will be greatly appreciated!
Muchos gracias!

Juanita-

P.S. E-Mail is fine!
From: jy2y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Ton~o Scherer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.afro-latin
Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF SALSA
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:38:12 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Apr13.192758.6081@news.iastate.edu>,
TW.MD7@isumvs.iastate.edu (Jane Anderson) writes: 
> I need some help settling a friendly dispute between
> a Colombian friend and a Puerto Rican friend, of mine.
> One says that salsa (both music and dance) originated
> in Puerto Rico, the other says it's origins are more
> related to the the western coast of S.America, or other
> islands in the carribean. We all know that salsa spans
> all of Latin America, but does anyone know its TRUE
> roots? Any information will be greatly appreciated!
> Muchos gracias!
> 
> Juanita-
> 
> P.S. E-Mail is fine!

	I think Salsa is a the "package" that has taken various rhythms
and progressions into a Pop melange and called it Salsa. Those same
rhythms accompanied by more intricate or should I say diminished progressions
turns into Jazz.

	Once again the origin seem to be a complicated task, I think we
could go all the way into Southern Spain on one side and Africa on the 
other. Perhaps it is more complicated than that. Salsa as I said, is Pop
music with afro-cuban rhythms and simplistic Spanish harmonies and lyrics.

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Ton~o Scherer
jy2y@vax5.cit.cornell.edu       "...y entonces yo dare la media vuelta,
			         y me ire con el sol cuando muera la tarde..."

					 Jose Alfredo Jimenez
_______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: rec.music.afro-latin
From: reha@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Reha Elci)
Subject: Latin Dance Music
Summary: latin fusion
Reply-To: reha@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Reha Elci)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 21:16:05 GMT

First, thanks to people who sent me all the different versions of Bamboleo.
I was able to locate only a few of them so far. I am still looking.

Does anybody have any recommendations of Latin dance music? What I am looking
for is music that is like Miami Sound Machine but with more latin influence.
I.e. the kind of beat to play in clubs.

Thanks for all suggestions in advance.

Reha Elci
Email: elci@bugs.gs.com
From: jcs@sal_jean.nynexst.com (Jean Carlo Sandy)
Newsgroups: rec.music.afro-latin
Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF SALSA
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:41:27 GMT
Reply-To: jcs@sal_jean.nynexst.com (Jean Carlo Sandy)
Organization: Nynex Science & Technology


|> 
|> I started to listen to Ruben Blades a few years ago and some Puerto Ricans living in my apartment complex ran over to see El Chino that listens to salsa, I am also familiar with Celia Cruz, Willie Colon, and Ray Barreto.  So out of the list above, where s|> hould I start?  I realize that this is a matter of taste, but I truly need help getting started with this stuff.
|> 
|> 
|> Muchisimas gracias.
|> 
|> Pete Wung


Oye chino, que bueno que escuches musica latina. 

Any of the classics is definitely a must.

I would highly recomend Tito Rodriguez and Machito to start getting
into the classical stuff. I also listen to other cuban groups which 
are not so comercial such as "Irakere" or "La Orquesta Reve". Amongst the
newest groups I really like "El Grupo Niche". 


Jean Carlo.
From: wung@power.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Newsgroups: rec.music.afro-latin
Subject: Re: ORIGIN OF SALSA
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:41:13 GMT
Reply-To: wung@power.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems


In article @rpi.edu, sancheza@cs.rpi.edu (Arturo Sanchez) writes:
>urban music promoted mainly by the record label "Fania" (early 70's) then you have to 
OK, so are any of these Fania recordings available?  In what format? Where?  And most importantly, cuanto cuesta?


>Artist				Country		
>----------------------------------------------------
>Ruben Blades			Panama
>Willie Colon			Puerto Rico
>Joe Arroyo			Colombia
>Niche				Colombia
>Adrenalina Caribe		Venezuela
>Oscar D'Leon			Venezuela
>Trabuco Venezolano		Venezuela
>Juan Luis Guerra		Dominican Republic (he plays Merengue as well)
>Celia Cruz			Cuba
>Los VanVan			Cuba
>La Orquesta Reve'		Cuba
>Orquesta de la Luz		Japan (well, even Salsa!!)
>.....				....
>
>-------
>(*) In Venezuela, we also have Merengue (a rythm) but it is completely
>different!
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Arturo Sanchez-Ruiz                     e-mail:sancheza@cs.rpi.edu
>Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute
>Dept. of Computer Science
>Troy, NY 12180
>
>
I started to listen to Ruben Blades a few years ago and some Puerto Ricans living in my apartment complex ran over to see El Chino that listens to salsa, I am also familiar with Celia Cruz, Willie Colon, and Ray Barreto.  So out of the list above, where should I start?  I realize that this is a matter of taste, but I truly need help getting started with this stuff.


Muchisimas gracias.

Pete Wung
Newsgroups: rec.music.afro-latin