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From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons)
Subject: Re: More on Disney Women
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 10:10:12 GMT
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Steven Chung (ssc@nwu.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan5.073825.13469@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons) writes:
: # But Belle just looks so much better!

: Must be that stray lock of hair.

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Nope...  It is the hair, to tell the truth.... Its the way it is (I can't 
describe it) at the top left and right of her forehead, where it kinda 
comes out....  Ladies (who probably can tell me what I'm talking about
since some of you might wear your hair like that) could I get some help here?

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From: gt1293c@prism.gatech.EDU (W. Scott Radeker, IV)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Video Releases
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:28:54 GMT
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In article <C0J8Lz.CKo@NeoSoft.com> arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
>> I heard "So Dear To My Heart" was Walt's favourite.
>
>And I heard it was "Cinderella."

I learned in some class (was it Traditions?) that the scene in Cinderella
where she gets her ball gown was his favorite piece of animation...

Scott


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From: lash@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (LINDA A. STARK)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Cinderella Video Tape - Can I Still Get It?
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:29:57 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

Like a dummy, I didn't buy the tape when it went on sale.  Now, it's one of
the few that I don't have.  Is it impossible to get?  Will it cost me a small
fortune?  Any help will be appreciated.  Thanks, Lin
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From: CHRIS.CYR@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Chris Cyr")
Subject: Re:B&tb continuity errors
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:57:52 GMT

Regarding the suggested 'passage of time continuity error', I don't know if
anyone else has said this, but I really don't see an error.  True, the picture
may be in error.  If it truly shows the prince at age 21 or so, then there is
an error.  If the spell was placed on the castle when he was 11, then there is
no error IMHO.

Others seem to have a problem with Chip and the other inhabitants of the
castle.  But, they were all transformed into inanimate objects (ie plates,
dishes, etc) which do not 'age' in the sense of growing old.  They don't grow!
Yet, the prince was made a beast - which does grow old, its heart and body
become frail like you or I or a dog or a tourtise.  It seems that the curse
was that the prince would lose those years that he could not get someone to
love him while the inhabitants would not.  When the curse is broken, the
inhabitants transform back to humans not having aged.  The prince on the other
hand - has aged - never to regain the years he spent as the beast.

If the spell is never broken, well - all bets are off - it seems that the
inhabitants get to live forever as flatware while the beast would eventually
die of old age.  The introduction talks of being a beast 'for all time'.
Well, 'for all time' can be up to interpretation.  For eternity - or for all
the time that the beast remains alive.  Yeah, this gets a little weak - but we
will never know since the spell is broken and clearly the inhabitants have
not aged (as proven by Chip) and the beast has!!

Chris
From: f012@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Voices in Aladdin
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:43:57 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>
>BTW, it's a good thing that Robin Williams can sing well enough!
>
>- Robert Cook
>

I was wondering, who is Bruce Adler, and why did HE sing 'Arabian Nights'
instead of Robin Williams?  RW sang on the Genie's other two songs, but not
that one...which I don't understand...is there some story here?  Did RW want
too much money for 3 songs so they gave the 'least important' one away?

BTW, I think it's neat to watch commercials, and 'makin-of' type shows, and
notice how nobody Disney-related ever mentions William's name ('cuz of that
contractual thing) and they do things like let the 'people in the street'
mention his name for them.  'You, sir, what did you think of The Genie?' ''OH!
 Robin Williams was GREAT as the Voice of the Genie!'' hehehehe....

 :)

 JD

 
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From: dorf@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Stephen Dierdorf)
Subject: Re: The seven dwarves
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:13:48 GMT

	I used to work at The Disney Store, and this is the method
they taught us for remebering the Seven Dwarfs (Dwarves, whatever;I'm in
no mood to enter this discussion again) :)

		Two S's     (Sleepy, Sneezy)
		Two D's     (Dopey, Doc)
		Three Emotions (Happy, Grumpy, Bashful)

This works pretty well; the only one I ever have problems with is Bashful.
Is that an emotion? Anyway, I hope that helps someone out.

		-Scott Dierdorf
		dorf@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
"What use does an actor have for a concience anyway?"


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From: enthrall@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Wolf)
Subject: Re: NEWSIES
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:51:33 GMT

I was in the movie.  Yes, Karen is correct.  Adults aren't ready for a
live-action musical yet.  The last one they've seen was with Astaire and
Monroe, and them.  It is coming back, but the press wasn't good, and there
were too many "big openers" that it had to compete with.  Too bad.  I liked
it!  <Tho I suppose I *am* sort of biased....>
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From: riouxp@rs6325.ecs.rpi.edu (Peter Joseph Rioux)
Subject: Re: Plot inconsistency in Aladdin?
Reply-To: riouxp@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:50:20 GMT

In article <C0q4vI.A3H@csugrad.cs.vt.edu>, rebeccal@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Rebecca S. Lawrence) writes:
|> pd@world.std.com (Peter F Davis) writes:
|> > In "Aladdin," Aladdin wishes to be a prince, so that he can properly woo the
|> > Princess.  Since the genie is supposed to be all-powerful, I assumed that he
|> > would turn Aladdin into a genuine prince.  However, for the remainder of the
|> > picture, the story is handled as though all the genie did was to dress him
|> > like a prince.  He keeps worrying about Jasmine's finding out that he's not
|> > a real prince.
|> 
|> That's the whole plot of the story though...BE YOURSELF!!! I mean, come on, 
|> IF you watched the entire movie, you wold have noticed that Jafar "turned" 
|> Aladdin back into a commoner in Jasmine's eyes. Alladin would have had to have
|> been basically re-brought up as a prince, which would have made him lose
|> the charm that Jasmine loved.
|> 
|
what????????   alladin brought back to a commoner?...  (in jasmine's eyes?...) 
AM I HEARING YOU RIGHT?... ever hear of first impressions?.... jasmine's first 
impression is one of a commoner.. not losiing it, adding to it..(unbeknownt to jafar...)   i have the feeling that jasmine know all along (from the carpet ride on anyways) that alladin was really brought up as a commoner, and he will always be one... i a book i read i thibnk robert asprin puts it best "royalty doesn't get embaressed, it's in thier blood"... what do you think aladdin was for most of the time?...hmmmmm.. that was the dead givaway...::)


squid
(unfortunately in the desert for this one.... :)
From: kellee@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kellee Noonan)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:58:53 GMT
Subject: Re: Vegetarian Food at Walt Disney World
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney

When I went to EPCOT last June, I was impressed with the fact that I
didn't starve. It is not too hard to find meatless food. If I remember
correctly, the Land was a great place to eat because it had a bunch
of food stands, like a food court in the mall. They had salads avail, 
cheese bread, baked potatoes with toppings, etc. I also ate another place
but I don't remember which one exactly (eating was only necessary to keep
me moving through the place, I didn't focus on it). I think that is where
I had eggplant lasagne.

I didn't get to the international pavillions, but some of them must
have some veggie items.

Overall, Disney in the last few years is getting easier to eat at. I 
remember when I was little, eating at Disneyland meant getting sick
from all the grease, but now, I can find salads, fruit, etc. (I love
the Pinnochio place in Fantasyland, that's where my kids always want
to eat).

Hope this helps.
kellee
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From: jweber@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (jodi.weber)
Subject: Hidden Mickey in Disneyland
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:12:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.122908.1@evax.gdc.com> sroka@evax.gdc.com writes:
>
>Well Rich, I'm sure that there ARE Hidden Mickeys ate the other parks. The main
>reason why I don't include them in the list I post once a month is that I've
>never been to the parks outside the USA and I only goto DL once every couple of
>years. If I was E-MAILed some info on these parks, I would be more than willing
>to include them in the list.
>

Well, Stan, I can help you get started, and I hope many others out there
will also contribute.  

In the California park, at the ice cream parlor on Main St. (run by either
Borden or Carnation, I never remember which - the one that makes evaporated
milk), there are three pictures on the wall near the cash register.  They
are in oval shaped frames, in the following arrangement:

       -        -
     (   )    (   )
       -        -

	   -
	(     )
	(     )
	   -

(Curvature not to scale!)

I may be back in CA in the next few months, so if I go to DL, I'll make it
my mission to find more HMs!


Jodi Weber
jodiweber@attmail.com   or   jweber@cbnewsg.cb.att.com

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From: thatcher@vcd.hp.com (Garen Thatcher)
Subject: Re: Disney CD's
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:41:02 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
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I have them as well. Got them right after release to give to my
daughters for Christmas. That was very hard not to pull them out 
and listen to them. My only gripe is that I don't have a multi-disc
CD player so that I can listen to them all without changing the disc.

My daughter loves them and wants me to put them on tape or get them
into the car somehow.
From: f012@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: ARIEL_GOES_TOPLESS.GIF (was Re: A particular Little Mermaid p
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:34:44 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>
>Before everyone activates their proton packs, I'd just like to say that the
>picture I have is _relatively_ tasteful!  I suppose it's in the same sort of
>style as those centaurs in Fantasia.  I wouldn't describe it as blatant
>pornography.  It's been VERY well drawn, and it just looks, well ... so *cute*!

Would that be the one of that is basically the cover of the CD/Tape (Ariel
with flower, Sebastian looking at her with grumpy face) that some sicko took
PCPaint or some other drawing program and 'edited out' her shells, and gave
Sebastian bug-eyes?

I have that .GIF...I'm sure someone will label me a sicko but I saw it on a
BBS and figured "what the heck"  - really, though, as these things go it's
really no big deal, it's not even 'legitately' Ariel in my view, as it was
someone other than a Disney animator, I'm sure, that took off the
shells...thus we are left with that particular person's idea of what she might
look like shell-less...and not the 'official' opinion of her main animator.  :)

Basically, if you're REALLY inot that sort of thing, just use your own
imagination, why not?  It's bound to excite you more than a .GIF would anyway.

(of course I'm sure I'll be bombarded with requests for the .GIF nw... :)

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From: dorf@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Stephen Dierdorf)
Subject: Re: Disney CDs
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:23:40 GMT

	-Scott Dierdorf
	dorf@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Video Releases
Date: 9 Jan 1993 14:50:27 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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In article <1993Jan8.202927.28070@news2.cis.umn.edu> avatar@wings.micro.umn.edu (Timothy Fay) writes:
>Robert Cook (rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu) wrote:
>>Leonard Maltin said that "So Dear to My Heart" was Walt's favorite
>>movie of all time.  I read in one of the biographies that
>>"Cinderella" was reportedly Walt's favorite animated feature.
>
>And I have a tape of an interview with Uncle Walt where he says that
>BAMBI was his favorite animated film (I think this interview is also
>on the BAMBI CD that was released a couple years ago).

Do you know when the interview was recorded?  Bambi was released in
1942 and Cinderella in 1950.  From what I've read, I'm pretty sure
that Bambi was his favorite film, at least at one time.  But from
his animators' perspectives (interviews for biographies, I guess)
Walt's favorite was Cinderella--maybe he just talked about it more.
Let's post the question on sci.cryonics--they'd know! ;-)


- Robert Cook
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From: arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: Video Releases
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:15:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.003137.5220@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> hofbauer@csri.toronto.edu (John Hofbauer) writes:
> > I had heard that Snow White would *never* repeat *never* be released on video
> > as it was Walt's favourite...
> 
> I heard "So Dear To My Heart" was Walt's favourite.

And I heard it was "Cinderella."

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From: swiffenr@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Belle & Ariel - More on Disney Women
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:57:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.231143.22174@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid) writes:
> In article <1993Jan6.101012.14462@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons) writes:
>>Steven Chung (ssc@nwu.edu) wrote:
>>: In article <1993Jan5.073825.13469@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> zarthac@bradley.edu (Matthew Simmons) writes:
>>: # But Belle just looks so much better!
>>
>>: Must be that stray lock of hair.
>>
>>: -- 
>>: ssc@nwu.edu | "I wasn't even good at the Nintendo of this!"
>>
>>--
>>Nope...  It is the hair, to tell the truth.... Its the way it is (I can't 
>>describe it) at the top left and right of her forehead, where it kinda 
>>comes out....  Ladies (who probably can tell me what I'm talking about
>>since some of you might wear your hair like that) could I get some help here?
>>
> I know what you are talking about. Its a combination between her intependent
> personality and that one lock of hair that makes me give her my vote for #1
> Disney Babe.
> 
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Just my two bits.  Belle is my Number One fave Disney woman.  It's just that
incredible blend of her independent personality, that *fascinating* stray lock
of hair, and that *beautiful* singing voice that just gets right into you. 
What I really *love* about her is the *depth* of her character - the way she
didn't just run straight to Beast's side when he was injured, the way she
looked deeply into his eyes following the Transformation instead of immediately
snogging him like some bimbo.  That scene nearly had me in tears (except I was
in a crowded theatre &-) and it *still* gets me worked up just by thinking
about it sometimes, or when I listen to the disc.  I think you can all relate 
to this...

Ariel comes a *very* close second behind Belle.  She has that fantastic red
mane of hair, and a voice that *melts* your heart.  Her only problem was that
she was a little bit too materialistic for my liking, and fell in love with
Eric initially by his appearance.  Still, she is a vegetarian (I think? Anyone
want to dispute that?) unlike Belle (Belle's only fault, I reckon!) and that's
why she gets my vote for Number Two Disney woman!

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Subject: Re: I'm going backstage at WDW! for free!!
From: Nick  Noble <NRNOBLE@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Saturday, 9 Jan 1993 22:54:37 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

In article <9014@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU>, mross@crowe.seas.ucla.edu (Mark J. Ross)
says:
>
>I just conned my way into a free vacation to WDW - paid for by UCLA.
>
IF I was a California taxpayer, I would be very upset at this.
From: rcook@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Robert Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: What about Disney Horses (Was: Disney Women)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:56:02 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
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In article <1993Jan8.005433.14842@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal) writes:
>In <dbarber.726369017@crash.cts.com> dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C. Barber) writes:
>>With all this talk about how unreal the Disney animated women are
>>(i.e. where do all the internal organs go), well how about those
>>Disney animated horses?  Aren't they a little bit different too?
>
>Well, I'm particularly wondering about those centaurs out of Fantasia.
>Like, if the you-know-whats on the females are where they are, what goes
>you-know-where if you consider the horse part?  One of life's little
>mysteries. . .

What about Cruella DeVil, or Grimsby, or LeFou?  Man, I don't know
how they could have survived whatever must've happened to them! :-)
Even just NEAR-realistic characters seem to look kind of boring and
uninventive, IMHO; this goes more for human types than animals.  As
long as a character has some kind of unrealistic appeal, it's fine
with me.  I don't think that art should strive to imitate life, but
build from it.

>PS as far as horses go, Philippe has got to be the best looking.  I'd
>give him a four out of five.  Are you listening, Robert?

Yep, your suggestion is noted.  I'll post the results of the Unofficial
Disney Beauty Contest when the votes stop coming in--it's been a trickle,
but a steady one.  Send your votes to rcook@ucsd.edu (rate your
favorite/not-so-favorite characters on looks and personality, from -5 to
+5 with 0 indicating no opinion).  All characters are eligible.  Sorry,
I can't give out any of their phone numbers. :-)


- Robert Cook
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From: IEBF94S@tjuvm.tju.edu (Craig Doerrmann)
Subject: Re: Chip (was Re: Just saw Alladin...)
Organization: Thomas Jefferson University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:50:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.192249.28374@samba.oit.unc.edu>
Ben.Magid@launchpad.unc.edu (Ben Magid) writes:
>Maybe chip was born after the enchantment. Who knows maybe magic spells
>can be inherited. I don't know who the father would be, but it was just an
>idea.
 
How would a teapot give birth, or procreate, for that matter?
 
Also, at the end of the movie, Chip (the human) asks his mother if he still
has to sleep in the cupboard, which gives me the impression that he's never
slept anywhere else.
 
Just a thought.....
 
See ya,
Craig Doerrmann
Internet: iebf94s@tjuvm.tju.edu   Bitnet: iebf94s@tjuvm
From: dgalvin@uoft02.utoledo.edu (Dan Galvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Typhoon Lagoon
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:42:35 EST
Organization: University of Toledo / Recreation

In article <15906@suns7.crosfield.co.uk>, gds@crosfield.co.uk (gary stamp) writes:
> While we were at WDW last year, we visited 'Typhoon Lagoon'.
> 
> Another family sitting close by, were asking each other how the wave generating
> system worked. None of them could answer. 
Well being somewhat interested in such things as a career hazard... I would
also love to know this information.   I know it is something like the world's
largest wavemaker.  I will have to ask my boss, who is good friends with the
boss of Typhoon Lagoon   
() ()
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From: quetzal@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Quetzal)
Subject: O.k.  Who's got the lyrics to Buscando Guayaba?
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:16:13 GMT

Right.  Is there *anyone* out there who knows, or can get by listening
to it, the words to "Buscando Guayaba" from "Oliver & Company"?  [Like,
it took me all of fifteen minutes to look up what the *title* meant
(still not 100% certain).]  It's not in the sheet music.

Somehow, it's *really* annoying me. . .

Tim Pickett
From: curt@foundation.wpd.sgi.com (Curt Schimmel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Tron
Date: 13 Jan 1993 02:20:02 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
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In <1ivltsINNmpd@hp-col.col.hp.com> dons@col.hp.com (Don Schott) writes:


>	A friend of mine at work is a big fan of the movie "Tron"
>and would like to get a new copy on VHS, but was not able to find
>one.  I said I would look on laserdisk (the only way to fly), and 
>had similarly bad luck.  

>	1)  Does anyone know of a source for either the LD or VHS?


I've seen the Japanese import laserdisk at LaserLand in San Jose,
CA within the past month or so.  Their number is 408-253-3733.  

Curt
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