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From: rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers)
Subject: Re: Smart drinks
Organization: Memes-R-Us
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 01:35:56 GMT
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dat91fhu@ludat.lth.se (Hugosson Fredrik) writes:

>Is there anybody out there in Netland who could supply me with Smart_Drinks
>recepies (sp?). Preferably by E-mail. Thanks in advance.

I am also interested.

I'd guess there are some subtle interactions between certain amino acids,
certain neurotransmitters and their analogs, and other components, IE,
there are interactions between wine, cheese, and other fermented foods,
and certain neurotransmitters that are fairly well documented ... and a
similar reaction that I know of, between bananas and hydrogen peroxide,
such that hydrogen peroxide ( used for boosting the oxygen content of one's
tissues ) can't be added to fruiot smoothies made with bananas.

Please post this information, or perhaps it is suitable for FAQ inclusion,
after it has been established publically.


-- richard

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: wyskj@marcus.its.rpi.edu (John Paul W. Wysk)
Subject: Re: Acid activities
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:21:07 GMT


-Stuff deleted



>	My acid using friends use Vitamin C to abort bad trips. Apparently
>it brings you down prematurely, don't ask me how. Can anyone confirm or
>provide definite evidence to contrary? (And no bullshit please).
>
>	Thanx
>		Col
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I also have friends that do acid.  They insist  that vitamin C enhances the 
trip and seems to decrease onset time.  They also tell me that B-complex
vitmains (B-6 B-12 and Niacin) are good to prematurely terminate a trip.
If someone has a more founded explination of this phenomina than my acid
using friends than please give it (they are not experts in medicine or
chemistry).  I hope that my freinds experience will prove helpful.

	-John
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From: Alex.Strasheim@launchpad.unc.edu (Alex Strasheim)
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:50:20 GMT


How about _The_Magic_Christian_?


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From: dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette)
Subject: Re: Ice Man Had Mushrooms
Keywords: IceMan, mushrooms, anthropology 
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:11:56 GMT


I saw that Nova program also and was most curious about the species of
shrooms.
Inquiring minds want to know!

dlr@well
Bet you can't find my .sig
From: Dave Honig@ics.uci.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Using LSD while on Probation in CA
Date: 10 Nov 92 02:08:12 GMT
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David Honig)
Distribution: alt
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren


 dag@col.hp.com (David Geiser) writes: 
>6500ehh@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Edward Hagen) writes:
>> A friend on probation for a DUI in California must give weekly blood
>> samples.  Can he use LSD without getting caught?
>
>If he's buying street drugs though, how can he _know_ it's LSD?
>-- 
>
> To the cat, the experimenter is problematic.


Doesn't matter.  If you eat a square of paper, either:
1) its lsd, and the pigs can't smell it in your blood
2) its paper, you got ripped off
3) its something else, in which case, there's not enough to do you
much good or harm or be detected.

LSD is effective at 1 ppb.  That's billion, kids.  Almost nothing else
is, including any adulterants.

-- 
David Honig

"Don't you believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear." ---Lou
Reed
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From: melbarbari@vx9000.weber.edu (Mansour Elbarbari)
Subject: Ketamine
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Weber State University - CompSci
Date:  5 Nov 1992 03:35 MST  

I have never seen any mention of the drug ketamine (vitamin K) on here before..
This could be one of the most incredible drugs available.. Its similar to
PCP in its chemical structure but is non addictive.. It was used in hospitals
as a general anasthetic but was given up after many many patients would
convey out of body experiences and other worldy experiences.  Dr. John Lilly
in his book "The Scientist" describes the mind blowing experience ketamine
can bring.. I have a huge article on its use, what you experience, where it
will take you, various other dimensions of travel, etc. that I will scan into
my computer in a few days.  If anyone is interested in Ketamine and would 
like to read about it send me E-mail.. Also this seems like a good subject
to place at U.Washington.Edu  /public/alt.drugs but I don't have uploaders
access..!  bye.. :-)
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] SO's and drugs
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 09:08:06 GMT


Shit, I wrote a damn signifigant post on the problems that can arise
from persuading someone with a real negative mind-set regarding drugs
to try MDMA based on personal experience and the damn thing ended up
empty (at least at my machine.)  Sorry, I'll try again tomorrow. In
brief, it can cause the person real difficulties during and after
reentry.

Bob
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         break that solitude, even briefly, and he must start all
         over again."

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Newsgroups: life,alt.drugs
From: cm31255@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Christopher Matthaei )
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:03:37 GMT

rda767f@nella8.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Leighton) writes:

>eastmer@yang.earlham.edu writes:

>>I don't know about where you live, but there is an import store very near
>>my house where you can get 24 one hit N2O cannisters for about 7 bucks.
>>with crackers and punch balloons right next to them.(for making whipped 
>>cream, of course |8) ) If you look like I do then they may ask for proof of
>>being over 18.  three free balloons with a package. I didn't see any warning
>>label.

>I hate to say this but you have your facts mixed up!!
>Those little cannisters contain Nitrogen Dioxide which is NO2. Nitrous
>Oxide is NO and is known as laughing gas, hence the high that is achieved.
>There is also Dinitrogen oxide N2O which is obtained when heating NO.
>Be warned!! N2O is highly poisonous ie LETHAL.

Who's got their facts mixed up? I am quite sure that N2O is nitrous oxide and
is also laughing gas. NO2 and NO are the poisonous ones and I see no reason
why these would be available in cannisters sold at head shops. I am sure of
this as I am looking at the entry for nitrous oxide in my chemical dictionary.

>-- 
>Mark.
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From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
Subject: Re: SEX on Acid
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 05:53:28 GMT

In article <1dp6u8INNr0c@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ck041@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kevin Currie) writes:

>	Anyways, after spurting much fluid on my bed, she started freaking
>out because she said she couldn't move!!  Her legs and arms seemed 
>paralyzed, she was REALLY scared.  I think I should add that we weren't
> *REALLY* tripping at this point, but were still very high.
>	This was only her 2nd time on acid as well, so I thought she was
>just freaking out.  After talking to her and pinching her legs (without
>her seeing) I found that she was quite well within her mind and not too
>badly gone.  Anyways, after lying and reassuring her that this was normal
>when having sex on acid, her feeling came back about 45 - 50 minutes later.
>  I lied because I didn't want her to think something was physically wrong
>with her- I thought she might start to freak if I said that...

Hysterical paralysis was quite common in Freud's day.  I.e., paralysis
with no apparent organic symptoms.  This seems to have gone out of
fashion, with bulimia and anorexia nervosa becoming more prevalent.
Freud was very interested in "hysteria" and associated it to neurosis.  
But that was for repressed housewives, not women fucking while tripping.
Of course, the etymology of "hysteria" makes the term pretty appropriate
here.  

Acid seems to do a huge variety of things to people - more precisely,
people do a huge variety of things to themselves on acid - and this
doesn't seem much scarier than most, though it may put a damper on
future fun and games.

I think your lie is one of the most pardonable ones I've run across
lately, by the way.
From: nswystc@peg.pegasus.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:09 EST
Subject: FAQ HELP
Nf-ID: #N:peg:225100149:000:522
Nf-From: peg.pegasus.oz.au!nswystc    Nov 13 16:09:00 1992


Help!  I recently downloaded the Miscellaneous FAQ sheet.  Good Stuff.  I 
understand that there are more FAQ sheets (for particular subjects).  Can
someone help me by either telling me how and where to find these or  by
finding them for me and posting them to this group for me to download.  I
have no idea how to access them - can it be done from Australia?

Please forgive my gross ignorance - at least I am trying to learn.

Hope to receive a reply soon, either on this group or by email, thanks,

Shane.


Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.bizarre
From: trif@bike.rad.washington.edu (To Run In Fear)
Subject: Re: Ice Man Had Mushrooms
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle WA
	<1992Nov11.055943.6256@netcom.com> <1dspdmINNg0f@agate.berkeley.edu>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 12:23:36 GMT

In article <1dspdmINNg0f@agate.berkeley.edu> curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin) writes:
   But it was good.  I spent those two minutes alternately cramped-
   double in vicious convulsions, and coming up with metaphor
   extensions for the large deposit of semen that the autopsy
   found deep within the Ice Man's rectum.

   Apparently he was a rather interesting bloke.

   The US media, however bullish they may be on gay rights, took
   great pains not to mention this detail.

Quite likely because it isn't true.  It was a spoof by a pro-gay magazine,
and has been discussed extensively on alt.folklore.urban.  There was a lead
in at the top of the story that said "If it isn't true, it should be." in
either Latin or Italian, which should be a tipoff to the false nature of
the story.

What I found amusing, however, was the number of people who greeted the
initial appearance of this story on usenet with, "Well, he was most likely
raped and left to die," ignoring, of course, the numerous weapons he had
with him.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: New MDMA-like drugs?
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Keywords: MDMA MBDB PCA FLENFLURAMINE
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 14:39:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.060833.28076@u.washington.edu> lamontg@stein.u.wash
ngton.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:
>aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>> I find it necessary to note that pCA is a rather potent neurotoxin,
>>showing similar, but more pronounced toxicity than MDMA, etc. Fenfluram
ne
>>has also been reported to be a neurotoxin. It has been said before that
>>administering a serotonin reuptake inhibitor such as fluoxetine, a few
>>hours after taking the drug that this will greatly (perhaps completely)
>>suppress the neurotoxic effect. 
>
>Not sure about S-fenfluramine, but fenfluramine has been used as an
>appetite suppresant in millions of people, without X-like effects.  (so
>which isomer are we discussing when we are discussing the pharmaceudical
>drug?)
>


 Not sure... I find fenfluramine to be a completely boring pharmaceutical.
It will be doomed to failure as an anorexic because of its drowsiness
side-effects. Of course this could be a harsh judgement. I've heard that
it has been less popular than other anorexics. Anyway, since I don't make
it a point to read about fenfluramine, the reports that I have seen were
in passing, but I do recall hearing some things about serotonin
neurotoxicity much similar to MDMA. Maybe I could look into this or
someone else who wants to can. I'm sure a CARL search will bring up a few
references. 
 Also, I have never before heard reporst of MDMA-like effects from pCA or
fenfluramine. 
St. Anthony

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] hash-consumption?
Keywords: anonymous
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:34:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov1.213438.12200@u.washington.edu> ap.5899@cupid.sai.com writes:
>
>
>Hmmm... After trying hash for the 6th time without result,
>        I'm getting a bit confused. I've tried eating
>        a gram once, with no effects, smoked it 5
>        times (from 0.5 g up to about 1.5 g) with
>        no effects except the 'speedy' effect from
>        the nicotine.

What nicotine? Although marijuana <and it's more potent stepchild Hashish>
contains tar, I have never heard of it containing any nicotine whatsoever,
and have read repeatedly that it definately contains no nicotine.
If you are mixing it with tobacco, stop. Try it with pot, or straight.
Heat two knives on the stove <You will need help>, Just the tips of
two butter knives. When they are red hot, at the tip only, place a
small chunk of hash on it, and smash it with the other knife.
Suck the resultant smoke up with a straw or a paper towel tube.
If this doesn't work, some thing is wrong, either with the hash,
or, heaven forbid, you.
Have fun!

					--Judex--

>        The strange thing is that lately when I smoke
>        ordinary cigarettes I feel it for about an hour
>        [slight nausea, feeling restless, increased heart
>        rate etc.], a couple of months ago I could smoke
>        without above effects [well, at least I wouldn't
>        feel effects for 1h+].
>        Wouldn't that at least indicate that I'm inhaling
>        properly?
>        The hash is OK since the others who've used it
>        at the same time had no complaints...
>
>        Should I just increase the dosage?
>                (like making a 3g+ Spacecake or something?)
>        or what?
>
>        Help much appreciated, as alcohol isn't my thing really...
>
>
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From: ap.6325@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] Spores
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: ap.6325@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:41:25 GMT



Hello psychonauts!

Could someone point out a good source for spore prints and perhaps also the
prices?
Any problems with overseas shipping? I live in scandinavia.

Thanks a lot!


                   S I N G  W H I L E  Y O U  M A Y!



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From: ap.6330@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] Mail-Order Head Shops
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: ap.6330@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 07:30:49 GMT


Hello, I was wondering if there are any mail-order head shops anywhere
in the US or abroad who will ship to the US. If this is as stupid a 
question as asking for drugs over the internet, please tell me.


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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: [anonymous] Bad Trips and their affect on normal
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: anonymous
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 18:29:40 GMT


 Bad trips can be incredibly frightening. I had one once where I heard
voices. Very distinct and and loud, but very deep and warbled saying, Shed
blood for YOU!!!" and taunting me with religious ideas. As I walked, I
seemed to keep ending up where I started and the voice would say, "One
way! One way!" (I was outside and had read a One Way street sign I later
deduced whle examining the arear after I had come down. Amazing how you
can add so many parameters to things while tripping...) I have had
schizoid persoanlity characteristics since I began school (kindergarten)
that had a high point in 2nd and 3rd grade. I still have delusions of
granduer and brief irrational fears of persecution, but I have learned how
to incorporate these into a constructive force much like Salavdor Dali's
Paranoia-Critical method. But I had these traits before I had ever even
taken acid so I have no idea what effect the drug has had except to put me
more in touch with insanity so I know what it is and how to embrace it
rather than to fear it and exacerbate it...

St. Anthony

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: robc@wicat (Rob Carlson)
Subject: Head Shops in Denver
Organization: Jostens Learning Corp
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:01:22 GMT


	Does anyone know if there are any head shops left in Denver? It's 
been a couple of years since I've been back to my hometown but this 
Thanksgiving will be spent with my parents and I sure could use some new 
parts for my 11 year old bong.

	I remember three: 'Happy Trails' on East Colfax, 'Rolling Stone '
across the street from it and my favorite 'Home Sweet Home' on Sheridan. 
I have heard that they started enforcing the paraphenalia laws and ran them 
all out of business. Is this true? Surely there must be some in Boulder?
Thanks in advance.

Rob Carlson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: Marc_North@mindlink.bc.ca (Marc North)
Subject: Re: Acid activities (Vitamin C)
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:30:27 GMT

Sorry folks, that should have been a letter, and not a message. Sh_t!
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dag@col.hp.com (David Geiser)
Subject: Re: Using LSD while on Probation in CA
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:05:15 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

6500ehh@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Edward Hagen) writes:
> A friend on probation for a DUI in California must give weekly blood
> samples.  Can he use LSD without getting caught?

If he's buying street drugs though, how can he _know_ it's LSD?
-- 

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From: cliftonr@netcom.com (Pope Clifton)
Subject: Re: guarana
Organization: t.b, t.p.d, & a.d
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:58:38 GMT

FUN is on priority setting (harveytj@kirk.aston.ac.uk) wrote:
: I've tried guarana (or however it's spelt)......does anyone know what you 
: can do to make the powder version taste better ....it tastes real earthy...
: .i've tried it in tea, then in fruit juice.....the "buzz gum" form is good
: ....and i should imagine the elixier is....but it's v.expensive....so i 
: don't know.....
  As noted repeatedly, guarana's active ingredient is caffeine.  To make
it taste better, drink strong tea or espresso instead.  Cheaper _and_
tastes good.

: On the subject of powders, potions and assorted herbs......I am also 
: experimenting with valarian at the moment....this to tastes unplesent.....
: any ideas for taste improvement (i made tea with it) would be appreciated .
: ..also how much should / can i take?
  I used to drink valerian tea to relax sometimes.  The smell is that of 
old socks, but it doesn't taste too bad with lemon and honey.  Dosage
depends greatly on freshness and other variables over which you have no
control.  To brew, steep it (soak in boiling water) with a cover over the
cup to keep the active oils from volatilizing.  DON'T boil it or it will
be useless.  I never used more than a couple of tablespoons, but I wasn't
looking for heavy sedation.
  -- Clifton

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs,talk.politics.drugs
From: kadie@cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Better coercion?
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 18:55:40 GMT

[Disclaimer: I don't necessarily believe all the following argument.]

Many people believe that drug criminalization is necessary to coerce
people into treatment. However, accepeting that coercion is necessary,
does not imply that drug criminalization is the best way to do it.
Some type of involuntary commitment to treatment would be better than
the current criminalization.

Such a method:

  Would have saved Bill Clinton's brother.
  Would "save" alcoholics while leaving most MJ users alone.
  Would put the emphasis on treatment.
  Would reduce prison costs.
  Would make explicit what is now actually quite common
         (e.g. Judge: "your probation is conditional
               on going to AA or a similar program every week.")
  Would reduce some civil liberties abuses.

Down sides:

   Would increase costs of coercive treatment.
   Might be abused by the government (but probably
       not as much as the current system)

Main up side:
   Would be better than current system. Politically
   more practical than alternatives.

- Carl
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