From: tom_repasky@mentorg.com
Subject: Re: REALITY CHECK!  (was: in-body questions)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:53:52 GMT
Organization: Information Services

In article <l9qciiINN9h0@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> james@cadillac.Eng.Sun.COM (James
Mangin) writes:
>tom_repasky@mentorg.co writes:
>
>>Level twelve.  The search for persistence. for absolute.  brings us here.
>
>Is this your George Bush impersonation?  (I couldn't resist...)
>
>Okay, I need to be serious for a second here.  First of all, I'm open minded
enough
>to accept new ideas & beliefs...that being said, I shall continue.  Next, you
have
>yet to answer anyone's questions with something other than "A term I use" or
other
>such ambiguities.
>
>Example:
>
>>>What exactly is a level 12 universe?  If it began at level 12, what level is
>>>it at now?
>>
>>Six and twelve are great numbers.  I believe its six. 
>
>Then you state:
>
>>This universe, by my reckoning, began as a level 12. 
>
>Then:
>
>>>Permitted?  By whom or what?  
>>
>>>Perhaps permitted was a poor choice of terms.
>
>Etcetera, etcetera...
>
>I must confess, I have a great deal of trouble believing *any* of what you
have 
>stated thus far is anything other than some fantasy you've created
>in your own mind.  Either start coughing up some realistic explanations to
these
>"beliefs" or take your rhetoric to alt.buttharp where it belongs...
>
>---
>James Mangin                          |"Alone on a midnight passage,
>Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation |I can't count the falling stars
>Mountain View, California             |While the Southern Cross & the
satellites
>                                      |they remind me of where we are" - Jimmy
Buffett
>
>
I do find it difficult to be more accurate.  My brain lacks the capacity to
articulte some of the experiences.  By choosing to say "the term I use"  I
offer you the opportunity to accept the concept/construct or to re-fine it
meaning through dialogue.  As questions are asked greater clarity will evolve. 
As example, suppose someone asked me about computers.  What should I say to
them.  The volumes of information available would make any presentation become
either very general and full of not-quite-accurate terms, or would be so
detailed (I have 20+ years experience) that no one would be interested in
listening.  
My goal is not to provide believable material.  If viewing this as a story, is
better for your context and consciousness, then great.  My purpose in posting
is/was to merely provide my experiences and perhaps initiate a dialogue with
others.  Perhaps it is a fantasy in my mind, perhaps not.  Either way it is
acceptable.  
If I say it will rain and then it rains.  Should I wonder whether it is raining
because I *made* it happen or *for-saw* its happening ?  I choose to not care
which.  It rains when I feel like rain and that is satisfactory for me.
Note, however, the rest of existence is not bound to my paradigms.   

If my postings are better placed in my closet or alt.buttharp as you named it. 
So be it.  It in no way changes who I am.  However, it does change you.  Your
comments would be without substance if I had not posted something.  
I have spent 20+ years with myself and my thoughts.  I am, like yourself, a
complex chemistry.  Detail about any one aspect, without first defining terms
invites inaccuracies.  Maybe I get paid well and am satisfied because of mental
problems (my IQ is above 140).  Maybe..maybe..
Thanks
Ambiguities are opportunities to discover common points of understanding.