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From: grimkirk@amiganet.chi.il.us (Mike Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Uh, scuse me fellows...(Was Attn Commodore: )
Date: 16 Dec 92 06:19:02 CST
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

In article <1992Dec10.195341.5704@sol.cs.wmich.edu>, 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu
(Martin Black) writes:

>grimkirk@amiganet.chi.il.us (Mike Schneider) writes:
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> [Then he inserted the following]
>
>First off let me poing out that having to use the os to do the graphics
>as it is will decrease the potential for incredible graphics, ** is **
>very important to the future amigas.  And hope to see even more and better
>coded os routines in the future.  And I understand chunky pixel is to 
>be supported in the future which is an improvement on bliting, by my
>understanding.
>
> [Rest of post deleted due to irrelevance]

I don't know how you constructed this post but those words are not and never
have been mine. The rest of the posting I've extracted this from was an
accurrate quote from me, but the above segment never came outta my keyboard....
[Regardless of whether what was said happens to be true or not.... ;)]


Please double check the construction of your replies when you choose to include
quotes from previous postings. This is not a flame, just *^FRIENDLY^* advice.
If this had been an actual flame, you'd have been instructed to unjoin this
newsgoup and delete your account :). I'm sure everyone here is outspoken enough
to put their own feet in their own mouths with out any help from anyone else.

Nuf' said.

Mike Schneider                  | Mac Quadra 900 -
UFP Computers                   |
Chicago, IL                     |       "Dammit Jim! I'm a Mac, not an Amiga!"
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From: mohrt@cse.unl.edu (Monte Ohrt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: A500 keyboard problems.....
Date: 13 Dec 1992 22:35:10 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cse.unl.edu

  	I'm having problems with my keyboard.  I just recently purchased
the 2.1 operating system, and although I don't think this has anything with
the problem, I thought I'd mention it anyway.  

	The problem is that usually when I try to type, sometimes characters
don't appear, and somtimes they are doubled.  This is a real annoyance while
word processing!  and other times it works fine.  My guess is that maybe
the keyboard chip needs replacing.   But the problem seems to affect the 
same grouping of keys most of the time. ?????    My only other guess is
that something is physically wrong with the keyboard itself.


any input or suggestions would be greatly appreciated....

Thank you in advance.
Monte.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: dmiller@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (David L. Miller)
Subject: Re: AGA USELESS - Thanks To Flicker In Higher Modes!!!
Organization: Washington State University Tri-Cities
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 21:34:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.003904.9649@ac.dal.ca>, henigma@ac.dal.ca writes:

|>         Commodore could learn a few lessons from Mac's SYSTEM 7.0, like memory 
|> protection and allocation, forget that both computers have virtual memory as
|> a part of there operating systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|> 
Well sort of, maybe.  I wouldn't be bragging about the "virtual memory" on either
machine!  Neither one is really worth the minimal gain (IMHO).  Now, if C= came
out with fast, robust, VM for the Amiga, that would be great.  But, it will not be
practical except on A3000+ class machines.  Without at least an '030 and a big cache, 
you can forget about *real* VM.

|> 
|>    I could also blast them for Marketing, but that would take a further
|> 600 lines to write, so I won't bother!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|>                                                  See Ya 
We already know all about C= *un*Marketing...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: danb@shell.portal.com (Dan E Babcock)
Subject: Re: That little half-line of flicker on my A3000
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:22:30 GMT

In article <1giefkINNln3@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jayscott@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jason Scott Anderson) writes:
>
>   Okay, I've been pretty patient with my computer for some time now with
>regard to that half a line that flickers on my Amiga 3000 screen...but I'd
>really like to find out if there's anything that I can do about it.  I
>think I remember hearing that there was a program or something which could
>take care of it, but I'm really not sure.  Is this just my monitor, or is
>it just a "side effect" of the Amber?

It's an Amber bug. QMouse (fish 731) will blank the top line of the display
to eliminate the effect.

Dan
From: Gene_Ruebsamen@republik.fidonet.org (Gene Ruebsamen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 2286 BB, PCDISK and W
Date: 14 Dec 92 00:27:22 PST
Organization: Eiffel Media of Orange County

> I just installed a 286 BB in my A3000 and everything seems to work except
> that
> the program PCDISK doesn't run correctly.
>
> If I boot from the 1.3 installation disk (WB 1.3/KS 2.0) PCDISK seems to
> work ok,
> but when I boot my normal system, I start PCDISK from s:startup-sequence
> (after
> the Binddrivers is done) and this shows up in a Status command but trying
> an
> AWRITE from the pc side complains that the PCDISK server needs to be run.
>
> I had some problems early on because I was using the SKSH JM program and
> this
> seems to cause the PC MONO/PC COLOR programs to hang.  Once I stopped
> running this
> the pc window came up and everything was fine.  In order to eliminate any
> possible
> conflicts I may have caused, I commented out the user-startup call from
> startup-sequence and ran PCDISK by hand, the same problem still occurs.
>
> The Janus software is pre A3000 from 1989, has there been any updates for
> wb
> 2.0?
>
>
> Thanx in advance.
>
> -Fred Cassirer
> --
> /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\
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> >
> <  Data General Corporation               Research Triangle Park, NC
> >
Yes, there is new Janus version 2.1 software for the BridgeBoard! Its
Excellent, and I HIGHLY recommend upgrading.. its not too expensive, and
makes installation a snap with the Commodore supplied Install program..
It does away with PCDisk, and since its no longer needed, it makes things
all the eaiser..

 * Q-Blue v0.7 [NR] *

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From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Floptical, Tape, Syquest, WORM, comments needed.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 11:59:04 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <71723@cup.portal.com> <jmarin.724501467@messi.uku.fi>


I did extensive testing with my Insite and it is 3.5-4 times faster
than the floppies.  It is the SAME speed as an ST225N, which is about
2-2.5 times slower than the Syquest 44 Mb drive.  Not alot of difference
for the price.  The Insite is still my choice.  I like haveing 3.5
inche media instead of 5 1/4 inch also.  Plus the near future is 
going to see 40 and 80 MB versions of the Insite drive on the same 
media, that will mean the costs will be almost the same as current 
costs. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: Dale_Adams@gateway.qm.apple.com (Dale Adams)
Subject: Re: AGA USELESS - Thanks To Flicker In Higher Modes!!!
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:57:56 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.,  Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Dec17.003904.9649@ac.dal.ca> henigma@ac.dal.ca writes:
> Commodore could learn a few lessons from Mac's SYSTEM 7.0, like 
> memory protection and allocation, forget that both computers have virtual 
> memory as a part of there operating systems!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I assume that by 'memory protection' you mean that each application 
program resides in a hardware-protected memory space of its own.  Sorry to 
disappoint you, but the Mac OS definitely does not support this.  
(Although I really wish it did. :-) ) 

- Dale Adams
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
Subject: Re: I must find a way to read HD IBM disks!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:12:08 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.224201.62048@cc.usu.edu> slhmz@cc.usu.edu writes:
>
>It has come to my attention that I *MUST* be able to read 1.8 Meg IBM
>floppy drives on my Amiga... AT ANY COST!
>
>I need to know if there is any way I can do this.  I don't care if
>I have to plug the drive into my SCSI port, but I *MUST* be able to
>read and write 1.8 Meg disks.
>
>Please help me out!

   If you want the simplest solution, which would involve not having to open
your computer and install anything, buy an external floptical drive with a
SCSI cable for your computer, and plug it in.  Then buy CrossDOS.  CrossDOS 
(or CrossPC, which includes CrossDOS) fully supports reading and writing of 
IBM 2M HD disks with a floptical drive.  As a bonus, you get to use the 
special floptical disks to store 21M per disk.

   Commodore sells new Amiga HD floppy drives, but they are double-height,
will not fit into most Amigas, are expensive, and in short supply (if they are 
available as upgrades at all).

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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A4000 and Zorro II SCSI
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 16:46:14 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na

>if they'd work in an A4000.  The only one I'm really concerned about is
>a GVP Hardcard (Series II).  It has the ram expansion, and I understand that
>16-bit wide RAM would be near worthless, but could I still use the drive?
>
>Just pondering here in the dark...

Its works, although it may need a ROM revision.

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: adap@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Edsel Adap)
Subject: Re: A1200 - 68020EC ??
Keywords: A1200 68020EC 68EC020
Organization: Andrews University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:49:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.093004.10703@walter.cray.com> walterb@sequoia.cray.com (Walter Boese Jr.) writes:
>
>What does the 'EC' in 68020 mean foe the Amiga A1200.

The EC in the 68EC020 is the EConomy version of the 68020.

>How can you economize (sp) a chip that is pretty basic to begin with?

By removing the MMU.

>What great features can you remove?

The MMU.

>And if they did remove something, WHY?  The 68020 is getting outdated

WHY?  To reduce cost.

>already, why degrade more than its age already has?

It has not been degraded.  When the 68020 was made, the 68EC020 was also
made.  Not because Motorolla wanted to degrade a chip but to produce a
Microprocessor that is powerful for many applications that did not need the
Memory Management Unit.  After all why would manufacturers buy an expensive
chip if they aren't going to use the features that they paid for.

>
>Walter Boese Jr.
>walterb@sequoia.cray.com
>
>

Just my $0.02 worth.  Don't take this as gospel.  This is just what I gather
from the random information I get from the net.

Edsel
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From: Adam_Sjoegren@thesystem.bbs.bad.se (Adam Sjoegren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 3-Button Mouse Questions
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:08:02 +0000
Reply-To: Adam_Sjoegren@thesystem.bbs.bad.se (Adam Sjoegren)
Distribution: world
Organization: The system, Frederiksberg Copenhagen, Denmark 
OD-Comment-To: Wally@ukcc.uky.edu


In a letter <WALLY@UKCC.UKY.EDU> wrote at 5:58:
 
 >> It's pretty easy to recompile Snap to use the middle button.  Just
 >> replace all occurrences of RMB with MMB in the handler code.
 
 WUE> Is there any way to do it externally?  There is the option of
 WUE> using the middle button as a qualifier, rather than a key, but
 WUE> when the middle button was selected for use, I couldn't get snap
 WUE> to snap anything..

I use Snap v1.61 by Mikael Karlson the following way:

 | run >NIL: Snap TEXTQUAL MIDBUTTON GFXQUAL LCOMMAND

With my AlfaData optical 3-button mouse, and it works nice. I just use
the middle mouse button as qualifier instead of the Amiga-button on
the keyboard.

                .                             .
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From: David_Queen@amicol.UUCP (David Queen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 4000 to vrc & serial ?
Distribution: world
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:03:51 EDT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

Hi, Just ordered a 4000. How can I dump stuff the VCR cheaply?
The 4000 took all my cash but I can get a 520 for free from a freind,
will it work?
Also is the serail port any faster on the 4000 than on my 500?
The v32bis modem could use some help...
Please email back, this conf. is HUGE and Thanks!
dave

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

If I couldn't think of a good tag line WHY did I do this?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: danb@shell.portal.com (Dan E Babcock)
Subject: Re: That little half-line of flicker on my A3000
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:45:42 GMT

In article <1gl14hINN37v@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jayscott@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jason Scott Anderson) writes:
>
>Well, I obtained QMouse from Fish 731 last night, and it doesn't like to work with
>my WB3.0 setup.  Haven't tried it under 2.0 yet, but I don't really use 2.0
>anymore.

The current version isn't compatible with kickstart 3.0. A new version will
(should) appear on the next batch of fish disks. 

Dan
From: pault@terapin.com (Paul Tibbals)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Kodak Photo CD
Date: 19 Dec 92 21:03:43 GMT
Organization: BBS

I just talked with a C= rep who said that C= demonstrated PhotoCD capability at
CES a year ago.  AS they were right next to Philips of CDI fame, and who also
manufactures the Kodak PCD machine, Philips was furious.  They reportedly told
Kodak that if they licensed PCD to C=, then Philips wouldn't make the machine
for Kodak.  Commodore is still negotiating to license PCD for the CDTV and
should have it RSN.....  you know what that means.
PaulT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: paulg@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Paul Gittings)
Subject: Re: Help on CDC Wren hard drive.
Originator: paulg@sydrd19
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 07:32:32 GMT


In article <1992Dec11.213719.9329@leela.cs.orst.edu>, ridgwad@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Dean Ridgway) writes:
> Hello people, a friend of mine has several 5.25" format full-height CRC WREN
> 94171-344 300 meg hard drives and I am interested in buying one to put on my
> A500. 
[stuff deleted ]
> a Supra SCSI interface with Series III v3.8a software.  I have my Quantum P40S
> configured as SCSI 0, the CDC as SCSI 1 and a QIC tape streamer as SCSI 4.
> Operation of the Quantum and tape streamer remain normal.  The tape drive is
> internally terminated and I have pulled the resistor packs off both the
> Quantum and the CDC.

If the jumper settings in my previous posting didn't help here is something
else to try out even if it does sound a bit weird.  Change the order of
the devices in the chain so that tape drive comes between the CDC and the 
Quantam, terminate the last disk drive and remove the terminators from the 
tape drive.

I have the following setup; A2002, GVP Series II SCSI controller, 48MB
Segate, Archive Viper tape drive and a Wren IV.  The Segate and the Viper
are installed internally on the A2000.  Originally I had problems when
I first added the external Wren. I had no problem accessing the Wren and
the Segate but I got "reselection" errors when ever I would try to write 
to the tape drive.  My setup before adding the Wren was

              GVP-segate-viper+

Then when I added the Wren

        +Wren=GVP-segate-viper+

+ terminators
= external

I read the GVP manual and it said to remove all internal terminators 
when you have an external device (no it didn't make sense to me either).  

        +Wren=GVP-segate-viper

Doing this resulted in the tape and the segate working fine but the Wren 
didn't show up at all.  However, after swaping the internal setup so that the 
Segate became the last devicein the internal chain and putting back in the 
terminators the system came up fine. 

        +Wren=GVP-viper-segate+

Any ideas? And what other setups (terminator wise) do people have who use
GVP SCSI controllers?

Cheers,
Paul Gittings
Telectronics Pacing Systems- 7 Sirius Rd, Lane Cove, NSW 2066, Australia
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From: Anders_Lattermann@p24.anet.bbs.bad.se (Anders Lattermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A1200 Custom Chips..
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 14:32:11 +0000
Reply-To: Anders_Lattermann@p24.anet.bbs.bad.se (Anders Lattermann)
Distribution: world
Organization: PointBreak, Kallhall, Sweden 
OD-Comment-To: Skip_Sauls

In a message of <14-Dec-92 20:12> Skip Sauls (2:201/1992) wrote:

 SS> The problem is a very simple one, but the solution is not something
 SS> that I would wish on you.  We have an abundance of both ignorant and
 SS> stupid people in the US who believe that buying a Clone is "the right
 SS> thing to do".  Consequently, Clone sales are very high and Amiga sales
 SS> are very low, forcing Commodore to offer deals such as the PowerUp
 SS> program.

 SS> Be glad that you don't have the plethora of idiots that we do...  :-)

Well if you export the power-up program to us europeans, we could accept the 
idiots as well... ;-)

/Anders Lattermann

FidoNet: 2:201/411.24
InterNet: Anders_Lattermann@p24.anet.bbs.bad.se

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From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A1200 - 68020EC ??
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 00:27:31 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec11.171839.19371@hubcap.clemson.edu>
  <Bz47Fr.75M@news.cs.andrews.edu>

>In article <1992Dec11.171839.19371@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlet@hubcap.clemson.
e
>du (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
>>walterb@sequoia.cray.com (Walter Boese Jr.) writes:
>>
>>
>>>What does the 'EC' in 68020 mean foe the Amiga A1200.
>>>How can you economize (sp) a chip that is pretty basic to begin with?
>>>What great features can you remove?
>>>And if they did remove something, WHY?  The 68020 is getting outdated
>>>already, why degrade more than its age already has?
>>
>>24 address lines, so they put the chip in a cheaper case.  Therefore, you
>>can't address as much memory as a full '020.  Else, it's pretty much the same
>>beast.
>>
>>(Correct me if I'm wrong on this ... :) )
>>
>>--
>>+ Rick __     + EMAIL:charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu +   //\          + /|\ It's 
+
>>|      /aylor | IRC  : Tomalek / The Romulan     | \X/--\miga 500 |  J rainy 
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+
>
>Yes, I think you are mistaken. However I can also be equally mistaken.  But
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why do people make these statements in an answer to a question they know
someone else can answer with certainty and knowledge?

>the 68EC020 and the 68020 have the same number of address lines that is they
>both have 24 bit address lines.
>
>What makes a 68EC020 different from the 68020 is the absence of the MMU in
>the 68EC020.

Bzzzzt.  You're wrong, he's right.  :-)  Really, if you're not TOTALLY sure,
don't spread misinformation.  Let someone else speak the truth.

>
>Edsel
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>|    Procrastination is my sin          | Edsel Adap
>|    It brings me naught but sorrow     | Computer Science / Mathematics Major
>|    I know that I should stop it       | Andrews University
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