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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: CB Tips
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:59:18 GMT

petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly) writes:

: > I listed them. Such things as destruction/theft of private property.
: 
: The only word in the post that is even close to what you claim is the
: word "confiscation".  There was NO mention of destruction or theft,
: you read that into the post yourself.

Call you what you like - it is still theft.

: > : > Write to your congressmen, talk to the newspaper - anything is better than
: > : > becoming a common thug.
: > : Yeah, Right, Like these would work.  (okay, maybe I'm a bit cynical).
: > 
: > I agree that it would do little except allow you to relieve some of your
: > frustrations. However, breaking the law to stop someone else from breaking
: > the law does not make your action right.
: 
: Correct.  However, it is quite common for people to vent their frustrations
: by threatening illegal action.  Threatening is not taking the illegal action,
: and for the most part, that is not illegal.  Would you not have people
: vent their frustrations on the net or CB, but actually go and carry
: these threats out?
: 
: And also, don't judge things to be illegal until you are sure they are
: illegal.  Innocence until proven guilty, wasn't that the saying.

Feel free to "confiscate" someones property if you wish. However, hope
that the person is not a real hothead who decides to remodel your head
under the guise of protecting themselves from your "attacking them". As
you say "Innocent until proven guilty".

: > : it's really too bad that CB isn't like the net.  All Tiffany did was post
: > : something that could be carried out in an illegal way, and all of a sudden
: > : there were a number of net-police trying to put an end to this kind
: > : of though.  Why can't we do that on CB?
: > 
: > No, Tiffany seemed to think that such things could be done legally. Apparently,
: > you do also. I suggest you talk to your lawyer first.
: Frankly, I don't care whether they're legal or not.  I don't plan to do them.
: By "such things", though, I suspect you are talking about breaking and
: entering, and destruction of private property.  Those are illegal, and
: I don't need a lawyer to tell me that.  However, those were not mentioned
: in the post, and were read into the post by a few people.

You are still ignoring the confiscation of property. Reread the posts.

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: jbs@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: CB Tips
Keywords: HINTS TIPS PROTOCOL
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 14:18:30 GMT

In article <90765@netnews.upenn.edu> yee@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee) writes:
>randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>>A linear is also a great way to cause TVI (TV interference).
>>Your neighbors will call the FCC, and you just might get a visit.
>
>jbs@rti.rti.org writes:
>>My sides are still aching. This was a good one!
>
>Why?  According to rec.radio.amateur.misc and recent issues of QST,
>the FCC has started a crackdown now that they have the power to shell
>out large fines (multiple thousand dollars).

Complaints from neighbors about TVI isn't going to get the FCC moving.

The interesting thing is that all of the blurbs I've seen in QST and
in r.r.a.m (and I'm not claiming to have seen them all) indicate that the
people they're going after are mostly licensed hams. I assume they're
being turned in by other hams. Typically they're charged with using
ham equipment in the 11m band.

Contrast that with the situation we have here in Durham, N.C., where our
organization cannot monitor channel 9 on most nights because of
people running one to two KW on channel 11 (with commensurate
overmodulation, of course - power mike settings around here seem to
go in inverse proportion to IQ). I called the FCC in VA. Beach either
very late last year or very early this year, and was basically told
to go away. I offered to provide them with names and addresses and
descriptions of illegal equipment (not that they'd need it - they could
RDF these guys if they'd come within 50 miles of Durham), but they said
they were not in the 11m business any more.

Ed Hare (at ARRL) has given me a name of an FCC field officer who he says
may be able to help, so maybe all's not lost. But I'm not optimistic.

  -joe
From: derek@abyss.sceard.com (Derek J. Lambert)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Linear Amps..
Date: 28 Sep 92 07:35:38 GMT
Organization: Abyss - Carlsbad, CA
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	I was wondering if anyone out there had any schematics for
a linear amp. I know this subject is illegal, but I have an old 
3 watt handheld, and am trying to bring it up to the allowed 5 watts.
I also wanted to see if one could be modified to work with a portable
phone. Please reply by email if you can, as I am not a regualr reader
to this group. Thanks.


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From: ehare@arrl.org (Ed Hare - KA1CV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: CB Tips
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:03:31 EDT
Organization: American Radio Relay League

In rec.radio.cb, yee@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee) writes:

>randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:

>>A linear is also a great way to cause TVI (TV interference).
>>Your neighbors will call the FCC, and you just might get a visit.

>jbs@rti.rti.org writes:
>>My sides are still aching. This was a good one!

>Why?  According to rec.radio.amateur.misc and recent issues of QST,
>the FCC has started a crackdown now that they have the power to shell
>out large fines (multiple thousand dollars).

The thing that we should keep in mind is that the FCC is much more likely
to spend enforcement dollars on issues that might result in a hefty return
on the investment. Also, if you are experiencing interference from a
nearby high-power 11-meter operation, you are more likely to get FCC 
involvement if you are willing to provide them with evidence and testimony
that they could use in court. It is no different than working with your
local police department -- they will expend precious resouces where they
think it will do the most good.

73 from ARRL HQ, Ed


-----
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American Radio Relay League
225 Main St.
Newington, CT  06111            There is no limit to what you can 
(203) 666-1541 - voice          accomplish if you don't care who
ARRL Laboratory Supervisor      gets the credit. - Harry S Truman
RFI, xmtr and rcvr testing  
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From: glitwin@CRAYSEA.CRAY.COM (Gary Litwin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: mobil sideband radio recommendations?
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:44:33 GMT

Summary: good performance mobile cb wanted
Expires: 
References:
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Cray Research, Inc. - Americas West
Keywords: 

Hello -
I am planning to buy a sideband cb for my truck, and was wondering if 
anyone out there has any recommendations.

Also, is there a source for performance reviews of the various brands
of cb radios sold in the US? Any cb magazines or the like?

Finally, has anyone had any mail-order dealings with a company called
Communications Electronics, Inc. of Ann Arbor, Michigan? This company
has advertised Uniden, Cobra, and Midland radios for what appear to
be good prices.

Any suggestions would be GREATLY appreciated!

Thanks in advance, 

Gary Litwin
glitwin@craysea.cray.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: fagundes@iastate.edu (Alex Fagundes)
Subject: Replacing frequency synthetizer?? (its it possible)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:34:46 GMT

Hi,
  A friend of mine has a CB that stoped working a few weeks ago.  He took
the CB for repair and was told that the frequency synthetizer was not working; 
and that this is not worth fixing it.  Could anyone please tell me what
the frequency synthetizer does and if it is possible to replace??
thanks a lot...

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Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: elesatz@diana.cair.du.edu (Eric LeSatz)
Subject: Re: CB Tips
Keywords: HINTS TIPS PROTOCOL
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 22:22:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.141830.168@rti.rti.org> jbs@rti.rti.org writes:

>Contrast that with the situation we have here in Durham, N.C., where our
>organization cannot monitor channel 9 on most nights because of
>people running one to two KW on channel 11 (with commensurate
>overmodulation, of course - power mike settings around here seem to
>go in inverse proportion to IQ). I called the FCC in VA. Beach either
>very late last year or very early this year, and was basically told
>to go away. I offered to provide them with names and addresses and
>descriptions of illegal equipment (not that they'd need it - they could
>RDF these guys if they'd come within 50 miles of Durham), but they said
>they were not in the 11m business any more.

I had the same experience about 7 or more years ago when you still had
to use your call letters (figuring the FCC cared). We had a nice local
group that used to talk every night, but suddenly "Rocky" started
playing music, throwing dead carriers or talking on sideband on our
channel. A couple guys tracked him down. Lots of us called the FCC
giving them his address and complaining, but the FCC didn't follow up.
Finally we resorted to vandalism, cutting his coax and tearing down
his antenna. 

Doug L. says not to take the law into your own hands, but sometimes
this seems to be what is required.

Eric
______________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: jbs@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: CB Tips
Organization: Joe's Bar and Grill
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 13:31:55 GMT

In article <it83083@pro-haven.cts.com> phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller) writes:
>Hey.....
>        
>        If it is that bad of a problem, why don't you get *your* RDF gear
>out and confiscate the idiots equipment for them???  You could then turn it
>into the FCC and if you get any more problems, go find the people again....
>        If the FCC isn't going to do their job, then I guess we all have to
>do it for them, eh?
>        I welcome and invite any comments from an FCC authority figure on
>this subject.....

Well, here are some comments from a non-authority.

First, I'm really surprised to see you posting on this newsgroup after your
recent behavior chronicled here. If I had done what you did, I would be
too ashamed to post here again. I guess I have to admire you for your
sheer brazenness.

Second, your apparent suggestion to break and enter residences and steal
equipment is simply amazing. You *are* posting from the U.S., aren't you?
The fact that you know that somebody is breaking the law doesn't give you
the right to commit a serious crime, unless you are rescuing someone in
imminent danger of bodily harm. 

Third, in the neighborhoods some of the linear jockeys in Durham live in, even
just cutting coax would put a person in real danger of being shot. It simply
wouldn't be worth the risk.


>       T. Keller
>Internet:  phantom@pro-haven.cts.com      Tiffany Bloxom
>UUCP:      crash!pro-haven!phantom


  -joe
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
Subject: Re: Linear Amps..
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:39:29 GMT

elesatz@diana.cair.du.edu (Eric LeSatz) writes:

>In article <pschleck.718030866@cwis> pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU) writes:
>>derek@abyss.sceard.com (Derek J. Lambert) writes:
>>
>>
>>>	I was wondering if anyone out there had any schematics for
>>>a linear amp. I know this subject is illegal, but I have an old 
>>>3 watt handheld, and am trying to bring it up to the allowed 5 watts.
>>>I also wanted to see if one could be modified to work with a portable
>>>phone. Please reply by email if you can, as I am not a regualr reader
>>>to this group. Thanks.
>>
>>Well, then you run into the other main restriction on the Citizen's
>>Radio Service, the fact that all equipment must be type-accepted and used
>>as-is.  If you modify the amplifier stage of a design, you must submit a
>>sample copy to the FCC for type-acceptance approval.  Naturally, this is
>>impractical to do for anyone but a commercial manuafacturer of CB
>>equipment.
>>
>>The use of non-type accepted modifications on CB, even if they are
>>otherwise legal, is illegal.  

>Then again, maybe he has the proper licenses to do this...I'm sure
>Gordon West does (he's has a First Class General Radiotelephone
>Certificate with Radar Endorsement, whatever that means...). 
>^^^ Credit: Author of the Radio Shack ham license preparation books.

>Some people DO have the right to go into CB's...

True, but such a license only allows one to repair and adjust CB
equipment, not change their design.  The FCC still has to approve every
piece of equipment for type-acceptance, and I'm sure changing the final
amplifier stage would be something they would be interested in :-).

--
Paul W. Schleck, KD3FU

pschleck@unomaha.edu

Celebrating 60 years of the Univ. of Maryland ARA - W3EAX (1933-1993)
From: phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: CB Tips
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:41:54 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-haven] - Pariahs' Haven BBS, 409/693-8262, 9600-300

In <1992Sep30.133155.7074@rti.rti.org> jbs@rti.rti.org writes:

% >        I welcome and invite any comments from an FCC authority figure on
% >this subject.....

        I said an FCC AUTHORITY....not *you*.....

% 
% Well, here are some comments from a non-authority.
% 
% First, I'm really surprised to see you posting on this newsgroup after your
% recent behavior chronicled here. If I had done what you did, I would be
% too ashamed to post here again. I guess I have to admire you for your
% sheer brazenness.

        I will not let a bunch of morons try to intimidate me from posting
here.....This just proves that for the most part, you all are very immature.

% 
% Second, your apparent suggestion to break and enter residences and steal
% equipment is simply amazing. You *are* posting from the U.S., aren't you?
% The fact that you know that somebody is breaking the law doesn't give you
% the right to commit a serious crime, unless you are rescuing someone in
% imminent danger of bodily harm. 

        No.....Not break into and enter residences.....Ask the idiot if you
can see his equpiment  (You can't act steamed or anything because the guy
might catch a clue, but if you just act like you're interested in his crap,
he'll probably be more than happy to just show it all to you and boast about
it while he does.....)  When he lets you see his equipment, just....I
donno...Do whatever to it.....I mean...If the guy is Stupid enough to take you
to court, all you were doing was destroying illegal contraband.....The fact is
that it IS illegal for CB folks to use linears.....I suggest either you
destroy it or turn it into the FCC with an address or whatever info you can
give the FCC on the person that was using it.....(btw...Ya hafta see the guy
transmit with it before you can confiscate/destroy it.....It's not illegal to
Have one.....Just to Use one.....)

% 
% Third, in the neighborhoods some of the linear jockeys in Durham live in, even
% just cutting coax would put a person in real danger of being shot. It simply
% wouldn't be worth the risk.
% 
        So don't cut his coax.....I didn't say these suggetions worked
EVERYWHERE, Did I now.....:-)

% 
%   -joe


        T. Keller
% 
----
Internet:  phantom@pro-haven.cts.com      Tiffany Bloxom
UUCP:      crash!pro-haven!phantom
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: uk07802@nx08.mik.uky.edu (Sofjan Mustopoh)
Subject: Re: CB over the cable TV system ? ! (don't do it)
Keywords: cb cable
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 14:49:46 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Oct3.015842.7952@cbfsb.cb.att.com>  
wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) writes:
> Just read an article in rec.radio.amateur.misc with title something like
> "CBers over cable TV".  Describes how some CBers in some town somewheres
> are hooking up their CB sets to their cable TV feeds.  And that other
> CBers doing the same in the same town can communicate withot the
> interference you get over the air.  This cable system has bidirectional
> amps.  
> 
> I do NOT recommend doing this, and I'm sure the cable company would be
> pissed off if they ever found this going on!
> This may cause TVI interference to normal subscribers, and may actually
> burn out something in the cable system.  5 watts could do that.

  
   Several months ago i remember seeing a copy of news paper's article
 about a cb'er  who go to Radio shack and bought the 10 meter tranceiver
 he proceed to transmit with this radio amateur equipment and try to
 talk to ham'mer , . :-)  . sure every body ignore him.
    and then the stupitest thing  he hook up the tranceiver to the
 cable and burn up cable company facility(don't remember what)

      End of story . the cable  company locate him and the culprit
 ask him to pay for the damages. This moron was not content with just that
 he wrote the letter to radio shack  asking for the money he paid 
 for the fines and threatened to sue.   :) :) :) :) 

      Oh  BTW this moron live in if i'm not mistaken Florence
  Alabama.  

       When i read this copy in Radio Shack i could'nt help
  but laught my heart out....   The saleman come and together we laught
  again. and strangely a cb'er  come into store and try to bought
  the 10 meter transceiver ...  when i asked why??/. he said by the
  look of it i figure i can get more range """"""   :) :) :)

       The salesman refuse to sell and point him to the copy i've just  
read.









Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
From: petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly)
Subject: Re: CB Tips
Date: 03 Oct 92 03:53:38 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In article <1992Oct1.232555.19965@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com wrote:
> phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller) writes:
> : Hey.....
> :         
> :         If it is that bad of a problem, why don't you get *your* RDF gear
> : out and confiscate the idiots equipment for them???  You could then turn it
> : into the FCC and if you get any more problems, go find the people again....
> :         If the FCC isn't going to do their job, then I guess we all have to
> : do it for them, eh?
> :         I welcome and invite any comments from an FCC authority figure on
> : this subject.....
> :         
> :         T. Keller
> 
> Let me get this straight. You are proposing breaking and entering, as well
> as theft, to solve the problem.

Ummm, could you point out where "breaking and entering" was proposed.  I
keep on re-reading the post, but can't seem to find it.  All I see is
RDF in the folk causing the problems, and then confiscating their gear.
You can do that within the law, you know.  Frankly, though, just RDFing
them is enough.  If they know that you know where they live, then they
are less likely to make jerks of themselves.  It's not against the law
to park, so why don't you get a bunch of your buddies with large trucks,
and park in front of their house sometime.  Just sit there.  

> 
> I seriously doubt that the police will smile on your vigilante tactics.
Police don't smile, period. ;)

> 
> You have no right to break the law, serious ones at that, just because the
> government is not enforcing other laws. 
What laws were proposed to be broken?

> 
> Write to your congressmen, talk to the newspaper - anything is better than
> becoming a common thug.
Yeah, Right, Like these would work.  (okay, maybe I'm a bit cynical).


it's really too bad that CB isn't like the net.  All Tiffany did was post
something that could be carried out in an illegal way, and all of a sudden
there were a number of net-police trying to put an end to this kind
of though.  Why can't we do that on CB?

petesk@microsoft.com
My Opinions...
From: john.denison@yob.sccsi.com (John Denison) 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: LINEAR AMPS..
Date: 3 Oct 92 13:02:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ye Olde Bailey BBS - Houston, TX - 713-520-1569
Reply-To: john.denison@yob.sccsi.com (John Denison) 

-> 3 watt handheld, and am trying to bring it up to the allowed 5 watts.

First thing, the max allowed is 4 watts, and isn't worth the trouble of
connecting a linear to a hand-held unit.

Second, do you really want to carry a linear around connected to a
hand-held?
From: phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: CB Tips
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:54:15 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-haven] - Pariahs' Haven BBS, 409/693-8262, 9600-300

% PS. Which are you?  T. Keller or Tiffany Bloxom?



        You must not read this newsgroup on a regular basis.....I've already
said this once.....

        I DID GET MARRIED RECENTLY.....MY LAST NAME IS NOW KELLER.
        
        Although this really isn't any of Ya'lls business, I thought I would
clarify it anyway.....
        Refer to a previous post.....I've already stated this once.

        T. Keller

----
Internet:  phantom@pro-haven.cts.com      Tiffany Bloxom
UUCP:      crash!pro-haven!phantom
From: pschleck@cwis.unomaha.edu (Paul W Schleck KD3FU)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.cb
Subject: Re: Linear Amps..
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:01:06 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha

derek@abyss.sceard.com (Derek J. Lambert) writes:


>	I was wondering if anyone out there had any schematics for
>a linear amp. I know this subject is illegal, but I have an old 
>3 watt handheld, and am trying to bring it up to the allowed 5 watts.
>I also wanted to see if one could be modified to work with a portable
>phone. Please reply by email if you can, as I am not a regualr reader
>to this group. Thanks.

Well, then you run into the other main restriction on the Citizen's
Radio Service, the fact that all equipment must be type-accepted and used
as-is.  If you modify the amplifier stage of a design, you must submit a
sample copy to the FCC for type-acceptance approval.  Naturally, this is
impractical to do for anyone but a commercial manuafacturer of CB
equipment.

The use of non-type accepted modifications on CB, even if they are
otherwise legal, is illegal.  

Paul