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From: srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Invisible fences
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:08:21 GMT
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory

In article <1992Sep4.214047.28067@linus.mitre.org> pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.110807.2267@inland.com>, walls@inland.com writes:
>> 
>> Hi, Netters!! I was wondering if someone could give me information on
>> invisible fences. Are these safe?? Do they protect animals from wandering?
>> Are they humane?? Any information would be greatly appreciated.
>> 
>> 
>I have one and it works most of the time.  I have a husky and they are
>high tolerant dogs.  I have seen a doberman on the system and it never
>wandered off.  The fence system is all radio waves.  The dog wears a receiver
>and you have a transmitter in the garage or some protected area.  As the dog
>approaches the wire (you can vary the distance), he/she will hear a tone and
>if the dog keeps going, they get a shock.  Most dogs learn real quick
>and do not challenge the system  Huskies and the nothern breeds sometimes
>do challenge it as they learn if they tolerate the shock, they can run thru
>it and be free!  
>The system is a bit prone to lightening hits and they sell a lightening 
>arrester which did not work at least one.  The house down the street took 
>a hit and just the electricity in the ground was enough to blow up the
>lightening arrestor and the transmitter.  I had fortunately unplugged the
>unit from the AC.  Company replaced it all free of charge as they 
>guarentee against such things.  
>You need to keep fresh batteried inthe receiver and the winter tends to
>cause problems as the temperature drops. Batteries tend not to perform in
>the cold as we know about cars.  My dog knows physics and I can predict his
>wandering off when the therometer dips below 10 degrees.  
>I would recommend it - its cheaper than to fence in your entire yard and if
>your dog digs, this solves that problem better than a physical fence.

One of the problems with "invisible fences" that seems never to get mentioned
is that they do not keep other non-collared dogs out of your yard.  Other dogs
can enter and cause fights, spread disease, or mate with your dog.  This may or
may not be a problem for the original poster, but it is something to consider.



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From: jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000)
Subject: Re: Dogs' Veggies and Fruit? (no onions)
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 16:23:31 GMT

In article <SHAFER.92Sep4125838@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov> shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer) writes:
>On Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:38:52 GMT, srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee) said:
>
>SL> In article <1992Sep4.163927.1817@sfu.ca> richard@sfu.ca writes:
>
>>Our current dogs go *crazy* about vegetables and fruit! They love lettuce,
>>cabbage, carrots, onions (yes, onions!), green and red peppers, apples, 
>
>SL> Be careful about the onions.  They can be toxic in dogs (at least that is
>SL> my understanding).
>
>They're not exactly toxic.  They affect the production of red blood
>cells or something.  The occasional onion isn't going to damage your
>dog but you shouldn't give them a lot of onions on a regular basis.

Onions and garlic contain n-propyl disulfide, an oxidant capable of inducing
anemia via Heinz body formation and hemolysis (red blood cell destruction).

Domestic animals are susceptible to varying degrees.  Cattle are most
susceptible, sheep and goats relatively resistant.  Both dogs and cats can
be affected.

I don't believe the problem is common in dogs and cats, and I do believe
a lot of people give their pets onions or garlic.  It is not correct to 
say the substance isn't exactly toxic, but it is correct to say the toxic
dose is rarely encountered.  One could run across the occasional animal with
a high degree of susceptibility; in this case one would feel awful about
having fed it onions.

I avoid feeding onions to my dog.  On the other hand, she does clean up plates
that have had onions on them, or sometimes finishes off things we have
flavored with onions or garlic.  I just stay away from blatant onion feeding
(onion soup, cooked onions, etc.).

-Jeff
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From: jhill@sierra.com (Julie Hill)
Subject: Ever had dog dreams?
Organization: Sierra Geophysics Inc.,  Kirkland, Wa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:33:18 GMT

Have you ever had dreams about your dogs? (And them start making yelping
noises? :) )

I had the most bizarre dream last night.  I was at a show and Bloodhounds
were about to go into the ring.  The judge was Betty Anne Stenmark, who Lark
and I have shown under before (for real, not just in my dream.  She gave Lark
BOS over a special, so she is someone that I will try to show under again.)
In my dream, the entry was 2-2-0-0.  Lark only needs a major to finish and this
was not a major.  I wanted to show anyway, because I knew that Betty Anne liked
Lark and I wanted to show in group.  One of the class dogs did not show up so
a puppy was WD.  The puppy bitch was judged, but before Lark and I got into
the ring, another exhibitor came up and complained to the judge because the
judge was supposed to be at another ring by this time.  The judge said that
she would finish judging Bloodhounds at the other ring.  

I decided to run to the bathroom real quick (I was nervous, OK?)  While in the 
bathroom, Betty Anne came in and made a comment like, "Well, I guess we know 
who will take breed today."  I was sure she was referring to us, but I did not 
want to seem cocky, so I asked her if she had ever judged the other dogs 
before.  She said "Yes, and I've given them both points before, but their 
competition was not too keen.  I left the bathroom and went back to the 
ring.  For some reason, I pulled my truck into the ring, like I was going to 
show the truck in breed instead of Lark.  :)  Then I realized my mistake and
also realized that I had gone back to the old ring instead of the new one.

I ran to the new ring with Lark.  As I approached the ring, I grabbed my halter
and lead rope (horse equipment) and unsuccessfully tried to put the halter on
Lark. When I arrived at the ring, the puppy dog and puppy bitch were already
being judged for BOB.  And Betty Anne, while in the ring, was no longer the
judge.  The other judge, an old woman, was making a comment about the WD. "He's
way down on his pasterns!", she said like she was waiting for Betty Anne to
concur.  I said, "Wait!! You've got to let me in the ring!"  She said, "No,
you were not here when your class was called."  I looked to Betty Anne for
assistance.  She shrugged her shoulders.  I started pitching a fit--you know
like you've always wanted to do at a show when something incredibly unfair has
happened. I yelled, "I drove 2 and 1/2 hours to get here!!!  I paid $16 to
enter!!  You can't do this to me!!! I'm going to report this!!"  

I think yelping noises must have started at this point, because I woke up!
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*  Julie Hill              Sierra Geophysics, Inc.              Kirkland, WA   *
*  jhill@sierra.com
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From: 2049ay@gmuvax2.gmu.edu ( )
Subject: Re: ALASKAN MALMUTE     PLEASE HELP
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:47:33 GMT

hey, AMD are some of the best behaved dogs i know of, except when
left alone. i have a 8.5 mo. old puppy who is fine with my roommates
australian shepard(i don't know the abbrev.) and gets upset when
he is left alone. i use the term upset loosely, because he can really
sing, he howls and carries a note. if inside he can be destructive,
but he is kept outside. at 110 lbs. and only 8.5 mos. i think keeping
him inside would be mistreatment. AMD are extremely friendly to other
people and dogs, the only exception is with food. yep my pup gets real 
vocal and mean if another dog approaches his bowl. he is also not to
happy about cars, i think its too confining for him . he starts to
drool, but he does great in the back of a pickup truck. i didn't think
that AMD were really "water dogs" but hey my pup has really turned into
a swimmer. well, hope this helps, i am sure you'll love one if you get
one. john.
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From: smm1@troy.cc.bellcore.com (michelson,steven)
Subject: Request for breeding article
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:19:58 GMT

I forget who it was, but someone out in netland posted an article that
answered the question "should I breed my dog?" A neighbor of mine mentioned
that they were thinking of breeding their dog, and I'd like to share that
article with them. Could the person who originally posted it, please
post it again? I think it showed up near Christmas last year.

Thanks,


_______________________________________________________________________________
Steve Michelson                |   Paying tolls is like throwing money out
Bell Communications Research   |   the window.
smm1@troy.cc.bellcore.com      |
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Bouvier Agression
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:48:10 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

Jim Knapik writes:

>Recently our Bouvier has been displaying agression towards certain people,
>usually non-dog people who seem to be "dominatable". She, a spayed female,
>also displays agression to other dogs. She usually lunges at the "subjects"
>and barks, sometimes it appears as if she will nip. (She has her mouth open).

This may or may not be helpful in your case, but one thing I have noticed
in people with dominant/agressive dogs who do not WANT agressive dogs is a
failure to correct the dog effectively for agressive actions, despite the
best intentions. I think sometimes people are embarassed to correct a dog
in public or afraid they might hurt their dog, but this is NOT the case.
Any kind of agressive display, as you know, is totally unacceptable and the
dog should recieve an immediate, and VERY memorable correction at the very
first hint of agressive behaviour. If she is showing any kind of agressive
behaviour towards YOU, you may have a real problem, but a dog that is fine
with the owner and agressive to others is generally very easy to correct if
it is done properly.

Here is a recent example from my experience: I was to begin helping a man
to train his GSD female in some basic obedience, but the first thing I
discovered was that she was begining to develop a dominance problem and
behaving very similarly to your dog...also she was the same age, an age
where this often becomes an issue. As I would approach the owner and dog
while he held her leash, she would lunge and bark at me. He meanwhile,
would pull the leash ineffectively and say 'good girl' in an attempt to
CALM her! Ack! It sounded like he wanted her to attack me, at least the dog
thought so :*) So I instructed him the next time I approached to give her a
VERY sharp jerk on the leash and at the same time yell, "NO!" in his
firmest voice. After two such corrections she no longer barks and lunges at
strangers...she's really very sweet :) Also, after the correction, when you
have your dog's attention, tell her to sit at heel beside you and THEN
praise her. This way you show her how she shouldn't behave as well as how
she SHOULD behave when strangers approach.

If this doesn't work, I also would recommend consulting a trainer, but DO
do something because most dogs like this will graduate from dominating
wimpy strangers and eventually try dominating YOU.

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Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca    I cried because I had no shoes
or:      a4080@mindlink.bc.ca         Until I met a man who had no feet.
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From: shaw@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Shaw Moldauer)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:23:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Dog in Heat, Any suggestions
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

In rec.pets.dogs, bev@pmafire.inel.gov (Beverly Novak) writes:

> Hi,
> 
> I have a 8 month old female dog who is going into heat.  I bought one of
> those sanitary straps for her, but she chewed it off.  I have also tried
> mens underware, but she got those off too.  She is an out side dog, so I
> don't really want to lock her up in the garage.  Can any one give me
> some suggestions on how to preventer her from getting pregnant?  I want
> to bread her when she is 2 years old. 
> 
> Please EMail you suggestions to bev@pmafire.inel.gov
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Bev Novak

	Chain link kennel with a chain link roof and concrete running
around the perimeter to a depth of 12" ought to do it.

						-Shaw
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Plastic Containers
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:35:07 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I seem to remember hearing once that it is not a good idea to store dog food in
a plastic garbage pail, but rather to use a metal one. Does anybody know if
there is truth in this and if so, why? I just bought myself a nifty plastic
pail, so I hope I can use it...what if I line it with a plastic garbage bag?

Thanks!

\/alaria

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Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca    I cried because I had no shoes
or:      a4080@mindlink.bc.ca         Until I met a man who had no feet.
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From: mcfadden@bellman.lanl.gov (Russell McFadden)
Subject: Re: Dog in Heat, Any suggestions
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Reply-To: mcfadden@bellman.lanl.gov
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:27:04 GMT
X-Posted-From: nimue.lanl.gov
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article 15015@mindlink.bc.ca, Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop) writes:
>Beverly Novak writes:
>
>>I have a 8 month old female dog who is going into heat.  I bought one of
>>those sanitary straps for her, but she chewed it off.  I have also tried
>>mens underware, but she got those off too.  She is an out side dog, so I
>>don't really want to lock her up in the garage.  Can any one give me
>>some suggestions on how to preventer her from getting pregnant?  I want
>>to bread her when she is 2 years old

Valaria Vorlop writes:

>PLEASE lock her up in the garage, or in the laundry room or in her crate!
>Even if you find a way to prevent HER from removing her undies, you can't
>do a thing about the male dog that decides to jump the fence to get to her,
>and he's not going to be stoped for long by a bit of cloth, dogs can be
>very resourceful! :) Those sanitary straps, by the way, are NOT intended to
>prevent pregnancy, but to keep an indoor dog from bleeding all over the
>carpet.

The only other suggestion I could add to the above would be to put her in
a kennel for the duration (something I wouldn't want to do) or put up
and enclosed run. Otherwise you ARE running every risk of her jumping
the fence to get to a male or vice versa.

Russell L. McFadden
mcfadden@nimue.lanl.gov



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From: kar@philabs.philips.com (Karen A. Mitchell Rubistello)
Subject: Boxer Inquiry
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, New York
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:41:49 GMT

   I would appreciate it if anyone could give me information 
   regarding Boxers.  My husband and i are thinking of getting
   a boxer when we move into our new house and we would 
   appreciate anyones thoughts and experiences regarding 
   this breed of dog.

   If you would like to send email my address is:

   kar@philabs.philips.com

   thanks in advance
   karen
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From: martin@biostat.washington.edu (Don Martin)
Subject: Re: Hip Dyplasia
Organization: Biostatistics, School of Public Health, Univ. of Wash.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:07:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.032519.9496@newshost.lanl.gov> crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby) writes:
>This is mainly a response to Jim Miller's posts which, if I read

Long but excellent discussion deleted to save space.

>Charlie "Older than dirt" Sorsby				"I'm the NRA!"
>	  crs@lanl.gov

I am sure that the OFA numbers are biased downward. Partly 
because it is not worth spending money to get OFA to
confirm a diagnosis. The second reason is that the
breeders who have X-rays taken tend to be the ones that
are less likely to have HD dogs.

The question that Charley discusses, and very well, is 
"does requiring an OFA for breeding reduce the chance
of HD in the offspring?" He makes this case conviningly.

Hip dysplasia appears to be polygenetic and has coefficients
of heridability in the 25% to 40% range. This means that
breeding programs are very slow in reducing the incidence
of HD as diagnosed by X-rays.

My limited experience is that a good pedigree in terms of
OFA numbers, both sire and dam and a fair number further
back, will not garantee a clear pup. It improves the 
chances of a clear puppy. But I have yet to hear of
a dog where the HD was a serious health problem for
the dog with this kind of pedigree.

My conjecture is that a good OFA pedigree is very valuable
in protecting the puppies agaisnt serious hip problems.

Don Martin Widdershins Old English Sheepdogs
From: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: IAMS dog food report
Date: 8 Sep 1992 19:01:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


A big THANK YOU for all the help about IAMS dog
food.

It was not the food.  I finally took Digory to the
vet and discovered that he had an infection in his
digestive system.

Most of the suggestions I received suggested good brands
of dog food that were lamb and rice based.  IAMS, Select 
Choice and Science brands were all mentioned frequently.

Once Digory's system is back to normal and it is improving
daily he'll go back to the IAMS.

Again,  THANk YOU.

Evelyn
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From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Pig Ears, Choo-Hooves, or Rawhide
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:11:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1992Sep10.153117.2294@inland.com> walls@inland.com writes:
>Hello out there in network land. I have another question for all of you.
>What are your thoughts and opinions on giving your dog pig ears, choo-hooves,
>or rawhide ad treats?? I realize pig ears are more expensive than choo-hooves.
>Choo-hooves are less expensive than rawhide, depending on what size you get.
>Are any of these treats high in calories?(I have an overweight dach/terr.mix)
>Please let me know what treats you give your dogs and what you would recommend.
>Thanks Again!! 
>Bonnie 

Bonnie,

I give my cocker spaniels the hooves.  I was told that they are much
easier on the digestive system than rawhide.  They love them and it
keeps them busy for quite some time.

Hope this helps.

Linda Mac (lmacdonald@berkp.uadv.uci.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Subject: Re: Help on choosing a family dog
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: na
Date: 15 Sep 92 06:13:26 GMT

Jon Pastor writes:
> both of ours were shelter dogs, and if you put in a request in
> advance and are willing to wait, you probably can find a shelter
> Poodle too.  We happened upon Fagin, and only had to wait a month
> for Katie.

You bet.  Like most shelters, we take requests.

The wait?  Corresponds to the incidence in the population.  For
example, a month's wait for Poodle sounds about right.

We also maintain a list of area shelters, Humane Societies, SPCAs, and
breed rescue societies.  This can also help people looking for a
particular breed.

-- Jon
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Jon Krueger  jpk@ingres.com  
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From: majewski@bach.udel.edu (Kathleen Majewski)
Subject: Hip Displasia
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:02:43 GMT

I would like to thank Dennis for all the information and help he has given us
on the net about this subject. 
I would also like to add, that I am sure there are many other breeds out there
that have a history of HP in their lines. Including the English Bulldog, which we own, and is now showing very severe signs in her left hip.
She is due to go in for xrays this week, just so we know, but I also have some
questions for those who have had their dogs operated on for this.
The main question is: how is their recovery? Was it worth the surgery, and does
the pain/signs seem to have been eliminated with it? 
I will be consulting the vet, who doesn't do the surgery, but will recommend
one who does, and I need to have as many questions about this answered while
I am there.
Expense: I know this was discussed, and with the actual cutting of the bone,
rather than replacement of hip/socket,is cheaper, is it better?
Recovery: She is young, 2.5 yrs., so she is full of vim an vigor at this age,
what is the time recommended for recoup?
Other facts that I should be aware of? Is this a permanent surgery, not wanting her to have to go thru this again in a couple of years?
T
DThanks, Kathy

D
D
D
D
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hanks so much,
kathy
From: walls@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Opinions about ProPlan
Date: 9 Sep 92 08:52:22 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

Hi Netters, I need your honest opinions on ProPlan. We feed our 1 yr. old
minature dachshund 1/2 cup in the morning & 1/2 cup in the evening. We
do the same for our 2 yr. old. min. dachshund too. I have only feed our
1 yr. old puppy food a few times because I had heard that too much protien
is not good for dogs. So I switched to ProPlan lite. My dogs love it compared
to Iams or Eukanuba. Am I doing anything wrong? The reason I have always
feed them lite dog food is that I'm paranoid of them having back problems.
I too have noticed that ProPlan does have an oily feel to it. I also give 
them a liquig vitamin supplement like, Linatone Plus, FA liquid, or Nutraderm.
I also give them Pet Tabs as a treat. Am I overdoing it?? Snuggles, the 1 yr.
old is very petite, weighing about 10 pounds. Bucky, the 2 yr. old has a
big bone frame, he weighs betewwn 13-15 pounds. Any help or suggestions would
be greatly appreciated.
From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Subject: Re: Those pesky anal sacks
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:45:50 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.003959.728@news.unomaha.edu> massey@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dana Massey) writes:
>Thanks for the vote of confidence, but I TRIED TO DO IT MYSELF...no
>luck I never get anything out...and I KNOW they are full because I
>know his signs.  Of course, I've never tried digital expression with
>a glove like the vet does it...only exterior expression by placing
>the fingers at 10 and 2 and pressing in and up..no luck.
>Maybe I'll try the surgical gloves technique...the $10/2week is
>getting ridiculous...
>Dana

Dana,

I am with you.  I have tried many times on my one-year old cocker and
I can never express the glands.  The vet has indicated the problem may
become less pronounced as Ashley gets older, but if this continues I
am going to seriously consider the surgery.

Linda Mac (lmacdonald@berkp.uadv.uci.edu)
From: wagner@weiss.cs.unc.edu (Michael Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Saying Goodbye to an Old Friend
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:28:32 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

>someone other than their current spouse that I had WALLETS made of our
>labrador.  

I think you're going to get some e-mail from PETA...


Mike



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