HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Bad headers (was Re: Helldiver is awesome!)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 02:54:42 CST
Followup-To: poster
Organization: The Red Headed League; Lawton, Ok
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.97
X-message-to-Russell: The References: header looks good now!
X-praise-to-Russell: We are cooking with gas now!

vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:

> Carlos, if you look at the attribution above, you'll see that your system
> is putting out garbage headers (carlos@carlos???).  You might want to take
> a look at the static file setup.
> 
> Since you list yourself as an infoserv.com customer and I know they used to
> provide an old Waffle already set up, you might get help from them if you
> get lost...but the headers your stuff is putting out are unreply-able...

He may not even be reachable infoserv.com, I tried to contact him there
about 3 weeks ago and got back a bounce with a loop detection and about
20 Received-by infoserv.com lines in the copy of my message that was
sent back. It may have been a temporary problem with there mailer but
after the second try I gave up.

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From: ahm@spatula.rent.com (Andreas Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Anon FTP or UUCP.
Date: 23 Dec 92 05:02:34 GMT
Reply-To: ahm@spatula.rent.com (Andreas Meyer)
Organization: A kitchen utensil somewhere in central New Jersey

vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:

> doug@aptzero.lonestar.org (Doug Gault) writes:
> >I can't seem to find more than just a casual mention of anon. FTP or how
> >to use UUCP (multi hop) to retrieve files from an ANON FTP SITE.
> 
> you can't multi-hop uucp with waffle at this time (see the FAQ)

I'm pretty sure that uucp doesn't allow multi-hops anyway,
(with or without Waffle).
-- 
 Andreas Meyer, N2FYE    The stockings were hung from the chimney with care,
 ahm@spatula.rent.com    I can't see what's in them, I'm tied to a chair. :-)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: dlawlor@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Doug Lawlor)
Subject: Help getting pcelm to run in uucp mode?
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 20:00:09 GMT

I have a problem trying to get pcelm to start in uucp mode.  It
seems every time I try to start the mailer I get a message saying
something like "amateur radio host not defined" even though I
have "start uucp" in the pcelm.rc file.  Is there a certain
sequence that I should be using to get the mailer to start in
uucp mode or should the start uucp line just be fine.  I have
included a copy of my pcelm.rc file below.  Any help on this
would be appreciated.  
thanks, Doug

begin pcelm.rc

uucphost shadow.nf.ca
reply dlawlor@shadow.nf.ca
zone nst
maxlet 300
edit builtin+
smtp c:/fsuucp/spool/mail
video 0
soh-uucp from
uucp-ext "."
start uucp
COLORS 1f,4f,2f,07,6f
uucpcall "rmail % < $"
sequence sequence.seq
print lpt1
-- 
Doug Lawlor, vo1cm
Internet: dlawlor@morgan.ucs.mun.ca or dlawlor@kean.ucs.mun.ca
From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: uucico speed, bad headers
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 09:34:00 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

Arthur@cswamp.apana.org.au (Arthur Marsh) writes:

> On Sat 19 Dec at 10:48 Wayne McDougall wrote:
> 
>  WM> spooge@sizone.uucp (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:
> 
> > jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:
> > 
> > > 3. Make sure you have uu.fossil set up in static
> > 
> > truth.
> > 
>  WM> What is this? I can't find a "uu.fossil" in my
> documentation.
> 
Try uu.driver : fossil


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From: tcbowden@clovis.felton.ca.us (Timothy Bowden)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Modem Mavens Merit Manifest
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 09:41:36 PST
Organization: Yucca Flats II in Felton, CA

I am again seeking such advice as the kindness of strangers might offer
regarding one of the basic hardware chains in this link.  I am having
trouble with modem mania.

I took delivery of one each dca Fatslink (freudian slip there), which
was purported to be a Trailblazer under another label.  After much
configuring, I had it up and running fine, although I could not lock it
higher than 9600 (this despite of the claim it was capable of 1800 cps
with the new chipset and everything).

Then it just quit answering the phone.  I happened to have access to
another such from the same source, and saw similar though not identical
results.  And so I retreated to an ancient 2400 bauder which at least
can claim the virtue of performing as it claims reliably.

And so I thought I would ask those who pass this way, presuming long
experience testing modems under conditions identical to mine, what your
recommendations are as to modem makes.  I would like a living
testamonial from anyone that has any Telebit running Waffle for years
with no problems and high cps.  That would be encouraging.

But type slowly, please, for my reception is old and sluggish...

Happy holiday, everyone...

Tim


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From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: The woes of ^Z
Date: 23 Dec 92 06:58:41 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

jon@vector0.SAC.CA.US (Dazed N. Confused) writes:

>      Somewhere in the middle of the article the poster had put in a
> ^Z.  Waffle stopped at this point and read no further, even though
> the rest of the file was about 10k.
> 
> bug bug bug bug bug bug


     Hell no.... the CTRL-Z (CTRL='^') sequence is the MS-DOS end-of-file
marker. When most programs get a hold of a CTRL-Z, they consider the file
to be at the end. Its no more a bug than saying that if an author puts a
page marked "THE END" on page 52 of a 200 page book, its the author's
fault because everyone ASSUMED that "THE END" actually meant what it
implies. Is it his fault that you didn't know to look past "THE END", even
though to do so would break every rule you've ever been taught? It's a
loose analogy, but you get the point.


                         --Jeff

...From a tiny little node called Eternal!
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From: system@coldbox.cojones.com (Bryan Lockwood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problems with nwreader and helldiver
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 15:38:32 -0900
Reply-To: system@cojones.com
Organization: The Generation Gap

In <12ERrAALBh107h@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US> larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman) writes:

>>2. In helldiver under Windows 3.1 I never see the contents of the newsgroups
>>   neither using join nor newsrc.

>I had this one. In my USENET file I had the statement:

>DEFAULT /dir=w:\news

>This statement had worked fine in plain vanilla Waffle 1.65. Using HellDiver
>I could not see any news. So, when all else fails, RTFM (Waffle's, that is).
>Although Tom Dell does not seem to explicitly state that the operand of the 
>/dir statement *must* be enclosed in double-quotes, the example provided 
>shows the operand in double quotes. After changing the statement to:

>DEFAULT /dir="w:\news"

>Note the enclosing double-quotes; HellDiver found the newsgroups OK.
>Maybe you have the same problem I encountered.

I wonder if the double quotes (or lack of them) truly are the problem. It 
may be a bit more esoteric:

I had double quotes around my newsdir specification earlier today. But
then I added Mathew's EXPIRE program to my Waffle and found that it was
not compatible with the double quotes, so I removed them. 

I then became fearful that my HellDiver wouldn't work, since I had read
the above message earlier in the day. So I fired it up. I'm in HellDiver
now (Win 3.1), and my /system/usenet file does NOT have the double quotes 
around the newsdir specification. Waffle still seems to work okay (1.65).

FYI, I have HellDiver use the JOIN file, so I can read from Waffle and 
still have an updated scan the next time I run HellDiver.

-- 
-Bryan Lockwood (system@cojones.com)  (1@501 WWIVnet)
"Into the trough of digital overkill I dove, raucously snorting
  and oinking."
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Helldiver is awesome!
Keywords: Helldiver,MS-Windows,waffle,reader
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 22:58:08 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

carlos@carlos writes:

> ..The subject says it all. I am now using HELLDIVER as my Waffle
> news/mail replacement and it works! Even with Waffle 1.63.

Gosh. Almost makes me want to grab a Computer Shopper and order a couple
of simms, find room on my hard drive for Windows 3.1, reconfigure all of
my Waffle stuff.... hmmm... on second thought.. maybe not :)

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From: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: DOS command /f parameter
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 13:20:13 EST
Reply-To: gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue)
Organization: Deep In The Heart Of The South!

abolins@visavis.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:

> mlewis@wplace (Mark Lewis) writes:
> 
> I tried it from the command line and it works the way you describe:
> 
> D:\SPOOL\NYONGWA>dir a:
> Not ready reading drive A
> Abort, Retry, Fail?Volume in drive A has no label
> 
> Not ready reading drive A
> Abort, Retry, Fail?Fail on INT 24
> 
> Time: 12:01:a.m.
> D:\SPOOL\NYONGWA>
> 
> But I tried the following .BAT file (from E: drive) and I was NOT able
> to recover after at the first command.
> 
>         dir a:
>         a:
>         echo Heeelp!

The /F option DOES NOT abort a batch file, it simply answers FAIL to an
'ABORT, RETRY, FAIL' message. That's all. Everything else works as it 
always has in DOS.

I mentioned this before, but I use it this way:

if exist a:*.* a:

If there is nothing in A: then the a:*.* will FAIL and no switch to A:
will occur. Of course, this assumes that you don't put a BLANK diskette
in A:, but it's better than no check at all.

> 
> 
> > > break=ON
> > 
> > and why have BREAK=ON... it slows down procesing unnecessarily and 
> > should not be needed unless absolutely necessary, IMHO..
> 
> I understood that it would allow me to get ^C and ^break control in case
> I need to stop a running program.

This command only allows EXTENDED CTRL-C checking in DOS. Normally, this
key sequenced is checked for only during keyboard I/O or screen I/O. With
this command active (BREAK=ON), the key sequence is checked for also when
disk I/O occurs. If it is detected during a DISK I/O, it will not be 
carried out until the next keyboard or screen I/O (keeps from corrupting
data).

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Bad headers (was Re: Helldiver is awesome!)
Keywords: Helldiver,MS-Windows,waffle,reader
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:59:29 GMT

carlos@carlos writes:
>  ___ ___  __   .   ___  __  //  Carlos Dominguez, MS-DOS Enthusiast !
> /   /__/ /_ ) /   /  / /_  // | carlos@infoserv.com  carlos@dorsai.com
>(__ (  / /  \ (__ (__/ __/ ..  | carlos@phantom.com   FIDONET 1:278/706
>                                 

Carlos, if you look at the attribution above, you'll see that your system
is putting out garbage headers (carlos@carlos???).  You might want to take
a look at the static file setup.

Since you list yourself as an infoserv.com customer and I know they used to
provide an old Waffle already set up, you might get help from them if you
get lost...but the headers your stuff is putting out are unreply-able...

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From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: WafflineMail with Waffle 1.65..does it work?
Date: 27 Dec 92 20:45:07 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <b1XPrAmMBh107h@mala.proteus.qc.ca> ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry) writes:
|In <Bzu9pK.Cp2@eis.calstate.edu> afavela@eis.calstate.edu (Alonso Favela) writes:
|>	Does wafflinemail 1.0 work with waffle 1.65
|
|Speaking for myself, NO.  That is I never was able to make Waffline 1.0 
|work with Waffle 1.65.  I someone HAS been able, please tell me and Alonso
|how.

My 1.64 setup worked fine when I switched to 1.65; it just doesn't handle
users' mail correctly (and there's even a workaround for that, look at
halcyon.com:/pub/waffle/mail/explode.zip).

However, WafLineMail 1.0, in general, is really flaky.  On some configurations,
it will work wonderfully, on other machines, it won't.  Try changing swappers-
that's what did it for me.

  Bill
From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Archive-Server Requests to Halcyon.COM
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 11:36:28 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

jerryg@jaiser.rain.com (Jerry Gaiser) writes:

> ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:
> 
> > Most failed requests to the archive-server (ANY archive-server)
> > are due to incorrect format of the request.  In the case of the
> > one in use at halcyon.com, send your request to mailserv@halcyon.com
> > (actually most variations on that theme will work).  Subject can
> > be anything, but in the text of the message, flush left:
> > 
> 
> And as I discovered last night, don't append a signature because the
> server craps out with too many errors.
> 
Or, as I discovered the same thing, include  BEGIN at the start, as
your first command, and END as the very last command, then your sig
is ignored.

Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: pete@wvus.org (Pete Gregory)
Subject: Re: Offline Readers
Organization: World Vision U.S.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 00:04:39 GMT

In article <FDyDwB1w165w@fennec.com> dfox@fennec.com writes:
>I have seen several messages about offline or alternitive mail/news
>readers for Waffle. But let it be known that there is one called
>Hell-Diver. This is a Windows 3.1 reader ONLY for Waffle.
>I am hard to please when it comes to offline readers. But I must
>say that this is THE best one by far. You don't even ever have to
>login to your system. It has all the uuencode/decode, compression, 
>security, etc...that you'll ever need. I would highly recommend
>this to ANYONE running Waffle 1.65 under Windows. You can pick
>it up via FTP from halcyon.com. Awesome is simply not the word for
>it. Take a look at it. I am sure you'll be pleased.

i'm interested, but don't have anonFTP access.  could someone mail
it to me?

do i have to have w1.65 to run it?  i'm a w1.64 user now, and will
be upgrading shortly (maybe new years' weekend).

thanks...
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From: ranfry@mala.proteus.qc.ca (Ranfry)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers
Date: 28 Dec 92 17:00:09 GMT
Organization: Mala's Refuge, Montreal, Canada

In <iBmPrAeNBh107h@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US> larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman) writes:

>>Yes, Hell diver is VERY good, but it is NOT an offline reader system.  
>>It does NOT allow the system's users to download all new messages and mail, 
>>read them offline, compose replies offline, and then upload them the next
>>time they call. ...

>I think you call that "Waffle". Waffle does all these things, and quite well!
>Maybe I miss the point of what you had in mind for an "offline mail and news 
>reader". If it is not Waffle itself, then what is it?

Argghh NOT again.  Read, and read carefully.  I run a BBS using Waffle 
v1.65, I love it, it works fine.  What I WANT is an offline system, such
as Waffline, that allows my USERS to call up my BBS, compile and download
all new messages and upload their replies.  Most of my users do NOT want to
load up Waffle on their computers, some of them CANT.  So please, no more,.
"Why don't you use Waffle?'  I do, they don't.


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From: dalew@twiki.PDX.COM (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: KILL
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 06:04:23 PST
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA

vince@victrola.sea.wa.us (Vince Skahan) writes:

> if you run 'linux' on a 386 or above, it's totally free if you can
> afford about 25MB-50MB of disk space...totally free...

  And you have a disk controller that Linux already recognizes.  Mine
unfortunately is NOT one of those and I went through two UltraStor 14F
controllers - never did find one that worked.

  So, it looks like I will have to get an Adaptec 154B as much as I don't
want to do that, when I get my second system built up and use that for
Linux - and Waffle when I purchase the source from Tom.

  8-Dale

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From: djk@boombox.apana.org.au (David Keegel)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 08:53:46 +1100
Reply-To: David.Keegel@apana.org.au
Organization: Private site, Melbourne, Australia.

In <921224.011650.9F1.rusnews.w165w@ricksys.lonestar.org> rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard D. McCombs KB5SNF) writes:
>les@chinet.chi.il.us (Leslie Mikesell) writes:

>> If the mailer on hishost is smart enough to resolve what it can and
>> pass the rest on to bighost then you are better off using hishost as
>> your smarthost instead of hishost!bighost.

>But if his host isn't running software smart enough to do anything but
>rmail user1
> or
>rmail neighbor1!thathost!anotherhost!someuser

Then you tell your feed site that their software is broken (there is
another word that comes to mind starting with F, but let's keep this
polite in the first instance :-).  I don't mind if a leaf site does
not have a smarthost or equivalent, but when a site is feeding others
it's a different ball game.

A site mynode which is prepared to take feeds should be able to resolve:
	user (mynode!user, user@mynode.dom.ain)
	neighbor!user
	neighbor!...!user
	user@neighbor.dom.ain
and should pass anything it can't handle to another site which can
either handle it or pass the buck again.  If not their users and
sites who they feed should complain at them until it is fixed or
mynode realises it should not be a feed.

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From: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: .QWK mail reader for Waffle
Date: 27 Dec 92 10:15:24 GMT
Reply-To: rhys@cs.uq.oz.au

>Has anyone considered contacting ANSI on this one?  Perhaps if we got 
>together under the direction of an experienced standards body, we could 
>pull together a standard which supports everyone's needs.

Ummm .... I'm not sure ANSI would be too interested in off-line reading
packet formats.  They have more interesting things to do. :-)  The IETF
(Internet Engineering Task Force (I think)) would probably be a better bet.
Also, getting everyone to agree will be a never-ending battle.

I think the "USENET Principle" is a much better approach to packet formats:
"He who has the most people using his format wins". :-)  I doubt that any
kind of packet format would become an offical Internet standard.  Maybe an
informational RFC.  But that would be a few years down the track after the
format has proved itself.

The short-term challenge is to write the software and get the user base.  The
Helldiver Packet Format is just one possibility - only time will tell.

Cheers,

Rhys.
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