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From: kimi@dvpj.sony.co.jp (Kimitaka Kawaguchi)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Magic in Japan
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:58:30 GMT
Organization: Sony Corporation, Development Project Office
In-reply-to: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com's message of 21 Jul 92 17:49:42 GMT

In article <14790@claris.com> mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:

Hello, I'm an amateur magician in Japan.

>> I'm going to be travelling to Tokyo in a week or so and will also be
>> stopping off in Honolulu for 2 days.

I think there is Mr. Yoshida's shop in Honolulu.

>Go to the toy department of almost any department store in Tokyo.  There
>will be a magician there, demonstrating products from one of the magic
>supply companies in Japan (each dep't. store will have a different company
>represented).

Not all the department store have magician there.  I think most of
them have magic tricks, but many of them does not have magician to
demonstrate these tricks.  I think Tokyu(Shibuya), Mitsukoshi(Ginza),
Odakyu(Shinjuku) have magician, don't know about other department
stores (does anyone in Japan can add comment?).

The best place I recommend is the "Magic Land".  This is a very very
littele magic shop, but really good shop (I think the best shop in
Japan) and the owner have much influence on Japanese magicians.
His name is Ton Onosaka, a good friend of Max Maven, Bill Larsen
(owner of the Magic Castle in Hollywood) etc...

The shop is located in Kayaba-cho, near to Tokyo station.  Since the
shop is very very little, it's very hard to find by yourself :p
Please call them to ask how to go to there.

Phone from the U.S.A. : 011-81-3-3666-4749
Phone from Narita airport (outside of Tokyo city) : 03-3666-4749
Phone from inside of Tokyo city : 3666-4749

Office hour is 10:00? - 18:00?, close on Monday and national hollyday.

And do this...

>Introduce yourself to him and tell him that you're a
>magician and would like to get in touch with a magic club or real magic
>store.
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Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: bansal@skule.ecf.toronto.edu
Subject: touch the screen, spot the culprit game
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:36:24 GMT

Hi!
 
Does anybody have the exact sequence of the steps David Copperfield performed
for his  spot-the-culprit game on TV? I am referring to the one in which he
asks you to touch the screen and then, predicts which card your finger is
'touching' at the end of the routine. I know it is a simple  'Odd/Even Count'
game but right now I don't have the patience to make one up myself.  So, it'll
be great if someone could give us the steps.

You could use the following configuration to denote the cards (train cars):
             
                     1   2    3
                        
                     4   5    6

                     7   8    9 

(You start the game with the finger on either 2,4,6 or 8 and then always end up 
with finger on 4 or, whatever)
Thanx.
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From: etjue@lbl.gov (Eric T. Jue)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Romance with Magic
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:39:56 GMT
Organization: LBL
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In article <1992Jul21.150930.5995@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> Mr K Osborn,
cctr128@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>I did this for my wife on our first wedding anniversary.  We went out to
>one of the top restaurants in town.  Between the entre and the main I
>produced a small silk, deciding it was too small I placed it back into my
>hand and produced a 24" red silk.  Looking this over, front and back I
>produced a single rose.

I would really like to learn this trick.  I would appreciate it if
someone could reveal this trick to me either on this newsgroup or via
e-mail.  I'm new to magic, so please be considerate.  I appreciate any
help.  Thank you very much.
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: bpeal@eng.clemson.edu (brian (malibu) peal)
Subject: Re: David's tv bomb
Summary: Was I the only one, that when David Copperfield did the touch the screen trick, that it didn't work?
Reply-To: bpeal@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:04:07 GMT
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Magic in Japan
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:49:42 GMT

In article <b9vf024S1aU=01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, jti01@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Jeff Isozaki) writes:
> 
> Hi netters,
> 
> I'm going to be travelling to Tokyo in a week or so and will also be
> stopping off in Honolulu for 2 days. Does anyone know of any good places
> to watch/view magic (i.e. Magic Clubs, Magic Bars or restaurants). I
> would also appreciate addresses and phone numbers for magic shops and
> book stores with a good selection of magic. Please email any and all
> info. Thanks alot.

Go to the toy department of almost any department store in Tokyo.  There
will be a magician there, demonstrating products from one of the magic
supply companies in Japan (each dep't. store will have a different company
represented).  Introduce yourself to him and tell him that you're a
magician and would like to get in touch with a magic club or real magic
store.  That's what I did when I was stationed there in the army.  It
worked very well for me.
From: stuart@austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Dave's Close-up
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:38:37 GMT
Reply-To: stuart@piobe.austin.ibm.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM Austin
Originator: stuart@piobe.austin.ibm.com


In article <1992Jul17.185930.21662@swbatl.sbc.com>, lrtpmah@oktext.sbc.com (M Hanan) writes:
> 
> Any ideas on Copperfield's aluminum pan mental illusion trick
> he performed during his "flying" special.  Where he apparently
> had a girl in the audience draw a symbol on paper ... and it
> was recreated with ink in the aluminum pan.
> 
> My guess is he might have used a wax of some sort and drew all
> the possible objects ... then carefully manipulated the ink
> so as to "form" the chosen design...
> Thanks....
>  

My guess is that the 'ink' contained something that would be
attracted to magnets.  The pan had an battery operated electro magnet 
in the shape of the triangle-- when he turned on the power the ink
was attracted to the magnet and formed the shape.
-- 

-Stuart

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Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: catapjjn@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu ()
Subject: Michael Ammar
Keywords: Magic
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:15:25 GMT

Distribution: total

This is just a fan letter for Michael Ammar, only the best all around  
magician.  I was just wandering if there are any other magicians who feel  
the same way I do.  Please reply with comments, or even reviews of his  
books, audiotapes, videos, etc..

						Thanx alot,

						A fan.
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Silks
From: cctr128@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz (Mr K Osborn)
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:50:57 +1200
Keywords: Silks & Books
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Gidday,

Tucked away in this wee corner of the world, it's relativly difficult to
get books on magic.  I just got hold of Bobo's Modern Coin Magic and
although I've been doing close-up and coin magic for around two years, the
book will definatly last me a life time.  The price of it was what I would
call dear for a paper back (NZD $40), and seeing the US$ cost on the back
made me green with envy that you guys can get books so cheap.  Still I'd
buy it again if I had to.  I also picked up Expert Card Technique which
also appears to be quite good.  These are the first books I've bought on
magic.  Incedently, they're also the first books that either of the two
magic shops has had in the last year and a half. 

This leads to the question - where can I reliably mail order more books on
magic.  Specifically at the moment I'm looking for interesting
manipulations using silks.  I generally prefer using slights rather than
apparatus as this gets (IMO) a better response from the audience, though
apparatus does have it's place (eg the thumb tip).  All suggestions,
titles, athours, ISBN's and mail order shops will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks heaps

Kelwyn.
From: cctr128@csc.canterbury.ac.nz (Kelwyn Osborn, CSC Uni of Canterbury)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Silks
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:14:37 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand


Gidday all,

A BIG THANKS to everyone who mailed me with books and mail order places. 

I've managed to find a second-hand copy of Rice's Encyclopedia on Silks at one
of the local shops.  This will be an invaluable edition to my small (but
growing) collection of magic books.

Thanks again
Kelwyn
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: perry@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Perry Staltari)
Subject: Re: Romance with Magic
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:27:18 GMT

etjue@lbl.gov (Eric T. Jue) writes:

>In article <1992Jul21.150930.5995@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> Mr K Osborn,
>cctr128@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz writes:
>>I did this for my wife on our first wedding anniversary.  We went out to
>>one of the top restaurants in town.  Between the entre and the main I
>>produced a small silk, deciding it was too small I placed it back into my
>>hand and produced a 24" red silk.  Looking this over, front and back I
>>produced a single rose.

>I would really like to learn this trick.  I would appreciate it if
>someone could reveal this trick to me either on this newsgroup or via
>e-mail.  I'm new to magic, so please be considerate.  I appreciate any
>help.  Thank you very much.

	I've been reading this newsgroup a lot lately and I am impressed
with this feat of magic (besides I like the romantic content). If
possible let us know how it is done. Just one question: How do you stop
the thorns from cutting your hand?
	Thanks in advance...


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Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: bpeal@eng.clemson.edu (brian (malibu) peal)
Subject: Re: Romance with Magic
Summary: You may be new, but are you serious!!!!! You must be, before most magicians will tell you their secrets.  THE CODE.
Reply-To: bpeal@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:01:03 GMT



Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: tnishi@kansas.Berkeley.EDU (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto)
Subject: Re: touch the screen, spot the culprit game
Reply-To: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Computer Systems R&D Labs 
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:59:42 GMT


In article <Bs66op.6pL@ecf.toronto.edu>, bansal@skule.ecf.toronto.edu writes:
|> Hi!
|>  
|> Does anybody have the exact sequence of the steps David Copperfield
performed
|> for his  spot-the-culprit game on TV? I am referring to the one in which he
|> asks you to touch the screen and then, predicts which card your finger is
|> 'touching' at the end of the routine. I know it is a simple 
'Odd/Even Count'
|> game but right now I don't have the patience to make one up myself. 
So, it'll
|> be great if someone could give us the steps.
|> 
|> You could use the following configuration to denote the cards (train cars):
|>              
|>                      1   2    3
|>                         
|>                      4   5    6
|> 
|>                      7   8    9 
|> 
|> (You start the game with the finger on either 2,4,6 or 8 and then
always end up 
|> with finger on 4 or, whatever)
|> Thanx.
|> --
	I'm sure there are several ways to do this, but here's one 
possible way to do it...I also saw David C. do the train one and then
saw something similar when I came to Japan and decided to figure it out.
the way it was done in Japan was this...
	1) Suppose you KNOW that the culprit is NOT on car 9...so erase
		car 9.
				1  2  3
				4  5  6
				7  8  X
	2) Start with your finger on 2, 4, 6, or 8 and take 7 steps.
		(up/down/left/right - CAN'T MOVE DIAGONALLY!)
	3) At this point, you will ALWAYS end up on 1, 3, 5, or 7, so
		you say "I now know that the culprit is NOT in car 8 and 6."
		so you erase car 6 and 8.

				1  2  3
				4  5  X
				7  X  X
	4) Take 5 steps then you will be on 4, or 2, so you erase 1, 3,
		and 7...
				X  2  X
				4  5  X
				X  X  X
	5) Take 3 steps...you'll always end on 5...

	4') (another one)  instead of erasing 1,3,7,  erase 3,5,7...
				1  2  X
				4  X  X
				X  X  X
	5') take 3 steps and you'll end up on 1...

=========================================================================
Teddy Nishiyama  (tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp)  OMRON Corporation  (^_^;
R&D Support Dept(LSA), Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo-shi, Kyoto-fu 617  JAPAN
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: Ben (no Email Address : (
Subject: CARD TRICK BOOKS
Organization: University of Central Florida
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 00:51:37 GMT

Hi.  I'm new to this News Group.  I'm far from a magician, but I do enjoy doing
card tricks, Especially the ones that mathematically work themselves out or
have simple slight of hand.  I'd like to learn more tricks and get better at
some of the slight of hand stuff --- any suggestions on books, videos, etc.?

THANKS,

Ben
From: Andy.Taylor@brunel.ac.uk (Andy J Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Penn & Teller
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:46:01 GMT
Organization: Henley Management College, UK

Does anyone have an address for Penn & Teller ?




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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: CARD TRICK BOOKS
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 00:03:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.005137.16256@cs.ucf.edu> Ben (no Email Address : ( writes:
>Hi.  I'm new to this News Group.  I'm far from a magician, but I do enjoy doing
>card tricks, Especially the ones that mathematically work themselves out or
>have simple slight of hand.  I'd like to learn more tricks and get better at
>some of the slight of hand stuff --- any suggestions on books, videos, etc.?
>
>THANKS,
>
>Ben

Hmmmmm . . . _Self-Working Card Tricks_ by Carl Fulves is pretty good.
Also _Card Magic_ by Garcia and Schindler though I think that one's out
of print.

I also highly recommend any books by Paul Harris, though more for the
writing style than the ease of the tricks therein.

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From: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Subject: Re: Posting JFK stuff here? Why?
Reply-To: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Organization: E 4th St Home For The Overeducated Underemployed - Chicago Div.
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:44:56 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.173402.29939@vela.acs.oakland.edu> mwlucas@vela.acs.oakland.edu ( ) writes:
>In article <2A6EA9D1.8AFE@tct.com> chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
>>According to bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou):
>>>I don't receive ...jfk, so I have to post it here.  :-)
>>Talk to your administrator about getting a.c.jfk.  In the meantime,
>>_please_ don't cross-post inappropriately.  DEREK, THIS MEANS YOU.
>Unfortunately, someone "upstream" of us has decided that they don't want
>to carry alt.c.jfk.  Obviously part of the WC conspiracy, in my opinion

Why not ask your news.admin about it?  
					reb
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:9248 alt.conspiracy.jfk:2588
From: dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott)
Newsgroups: talk.politics,alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk
Subject: Re: Spiro Agnew, Nixon & Scandals.
Date: 21 Jul 92 07:47:25 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide

In article <s2D9NB5w165w@coriolis.UUCP> mitch@coriolis.UUCP (Mitch) writes:
>dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott) writes:
>>
>> PS. Can anyone remember Ford's "official" reasoning for giving Nixon a Pardon
>
>DIdn't he say it was for the sake of the country?  Avoiding the strains
>of a drawn out trial, further recriminations, and even more damage to
>confidence in government?
>Or was that just the explanation news commentators and such provided?

Hmmmmm, if that's what he really said, then it's sounds a pretty weak
statement coming from a law-abiding Republican.

How did the public buy that one?
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:9298 alt.conspiracy.jfk:2613
From: dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott)
Newsgroups: talk.politics,alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk
Subject: Re: Spiro Agnew, Nixon & Scandals.
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:08:31 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide

In article <2A6C41A0.313C@tct.com> chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
>According to dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott):
>>[JFK discussion]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hmmmmmmmmm, since when was a discussion on Nixon & Watergate a JFK discussion?

Now that could be interesting............:-)

>
>Please do NOT crosspost JFK discussion to alt.conspiracy.  Thank you.
>--
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> compel unwilling geeks to commit evil .sig atrocities?"  -- Dean Engelhardt
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: ceblair@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Charles Blair)
Subject: Re: Posting JFK stuff here? Why?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:17:49 GMT

   I also do not receive alt.conspiracy.jfk but do get alt.conspiracy.
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:9297 alt.conspiracy.jfk:2612 misc.legal:14648
From: dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.conspiracy.jfk,misc.legal
Subject: Physical Evidence: The Limo (JFK)
Date: 22 Jul 92 06:00:51 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide


What are the laws, in the USA, regarding the preservation of physical
evidence in a murder case?

Is there a minimum time period that all evidence must be kept?

Does the fact that JFK's limo was repaired & cleaned up the next day
sound a little irregular?


There was a case only today, in the newspapers, of a vehicle in a fatal
accident being disposed of FIVE days after the incident. The coroner
on the case is furious and upset and raving in the newspapers.

It seems strange that no one blinked an eyelid about JFK's limo, at the time.
From: jim@netlink.cts.com (Jim Bowery)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Perot wasn't Hitler
Date: 20 Jul 92 14:04:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: netlink.wLR8NB1w164w
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA


 
 
                If Perot was the leader of the Brown Shirts...
 
 
 
                              Who is Hitler?

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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: INVASION!!!
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 01:07:34 -0500

 GS> such...However, SOMEONE did forge those letters that I supposedly wrote
 GS> from here, and other places as well...In a little while, I will be
 GS> filing my lawsuit in federal court, and I WILL be voicing my experiences
 GS> in a court of law...If you want to think I a nut, fine.

Does this now mean your girlfriend is NOT a clone?


Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:9376 alt.activism:13449 pa.general:248 phl.misc:198 talk.politics.misc:35846
From: david@mail.sas.upenn.edu (R. David Murray)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,pa.general,phl.misc,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Congress and the balaced budget scam
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:53:50 GMT
Reply-To: david@penndrls.upenn.edu
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Distribution: usa
Organization: University Data Center, University of Pennsylvania

In article <Brwo8M.MFz@apollo.hp.com>, nelson_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Nelson) writes:
>   Oh, Bush-it!   The *real* culprits are the voters.  They're the ones who
>   reward legislators who "bring home the bacon" in the form of federal
>   contracts, aid programs, keeping military bases open, etc, with 
>   re-election.  They're also the ones who demand the the government "do
>   something" about every problem that comes along.  If the Birchers,
>   Mr. Affleck, or their mouthpiece here on the net Mr. Bacon think I'm
>   wrong then they should try running for election somewhere on a platform
>   of promising to *slash* federal spending programs going to your constituency.

I'll vote for a candidate with that platform. You are essentially right, with
the caveat that in general, voters are not presented with candidates with
such platforms, and so many people (how many I don't pretend to know)
who are not in favor of pork simply don't vote.  As to why there aren't
any such candidates; well, in general somebody with enough sense to know
that pork in particular and public spending in general is bad also has enough
sense to know that politics is a dirty business and wants no part of it. 
Not to mention that any such person would /never/ get the support of either
major party. (Today.  In four years that may change.)
Xref: sparky alt.conspiracy:9438 alt.fan.dan-quayle:2092
From: michael@marcel.bu.edu (Michael Chaplin)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Iran Contra
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:56:08 GMT
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Organization: Boston University
In-reply-to: hanlon@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov's message of 28 Jul 92 16:47:00 GMT

In article <28JUL199211475341@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov> hanlon@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Casey Hanlon (SVER)) writes:

=  So you want to talk about scum.  Lets take a look at the presidential
=  candidate for the democrats.  Received his draft notice, refused to report
=  for induction, used political friends to get into ROTC when he should
=  have been thrown in jail with the other draft doggers.  After all they
=  violated the law didn't they.  When the draft lottery was institued
=  and our dear billy boy received a high draft number, sufficiently high
=  as to insure he wouldn't be drafted, he once again pulled strings and
=  was able to get out of his ROTC commitment.  Then he wrote the now
=  famous letter to his former ROTC commander thanking him for saving his
=  life and preserving his future political options.  What a scum bag!
=  And now he aspires to be the commander in chief of the armed forces
=  of this nation.  

=  Casey (I think I'll vote for Andre Marrou) Hanlon

Yes, but you forget that his father didn't have the money to buy
him a cushy position in the National Guard.

Follow up to alt.the.only.good.poltician.is.a.dead.one

Michael (Your vote is YOUR business :)) Chaplin
 
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