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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:32:09 GMT
From: jsaker@cwis.unomaha.edu (James R. Saker Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: NECA 4 Online/CD-ROM?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 770, Message 9 of 11

Is anyone aware of the NECA 4 tariff being offered either through
online services (for dialup) or on a CD-ROM library? 


Jamie Saker			jsaker@cwis.unomaha.edu
Network Costing Analyst		Business/MIS Major	
Telenational Communications	Univ. Nebraska at Omaha	
(402) 392-7548
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 00:55:36 -0400
From: shri%unreal@cs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: 800 Numbers Restricted by NYTel?
Organization: UMass, Amherst, MA01002 + Temporal Sys & Comp Net, Bombay, India
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 776, Message 12 of 14

In article <telecom12.757.6@eecs.nwu.edu> henry@ads.com...

  ... in answer to ...

>> AOSs don't want callers using their resources to make free calls,
>> when they typically charge $3 to $4 for a three minute local call.

says ...

> I know about AOS's; I don't use their phones if I can help it.  They

Ok, question time again ...

 I know AOS stands for "Alternative Operator Serivices" (I read so
 from a publication from the MA Dept of Public Utilities.)

  What services does an AOS typically provide ?
  How would I recognise an AOS phone ?

  It is plainly obvious that you dont mean COCOTs here, and while
going thru the literature from the PUC, I could not quite guess what
an AOS really was, in familiar terms.

  Also, at least in MA, the Department of Public Utilities needs to
license you (and your dog :-) before you can offer any IXC/LD service
even as a reseller. Is that true for all the 50 states? Thats a lot
of paperwork !


shrikumar ( shri@legato.cs.umass.edu, shri@iucaa.ernet.in )


[Moderator's Note: One thing all payphones (genuine Bell or COCOTS)
need is an operator to handle special billing and person-to-person
calls. In their eagerness to stay away from anything-Bell, the COCOTS
will generally have the operator service for their phones handled
through a service bureau offering AOS (alternate operator services.)
In other words, a non-telco operator.  If you see a COCOT phone, you
are most likely looking at an AOS behind it. If you have questions
about this when using one of these phones (it is just like me riding
the subway in Chicago -- sometimes I have an immediate need to use the
bathroom and have to use the filthy subway toilets; very distasteful
experience but it can't be helped) then when the operator answers ask
point blank "are you an xxx-Bell operator?" or "are you an AT&T
operator?"  and if the answer is negative, be prepared for the worst,
and do as I try to do: either take care of it before leaving home or
wait until you get back. If you can't wait, then pay the price. Even
then sometimes the COCOT/AOS operators lie about it and claim to be
genuine. Like the Chicago Transit Authority public toilets, avoid
COCOTS if at all possible.  PAT]
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 03:33:45 GMT
From: mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: PC-Based Voicemail Systems
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 782, Message 10 of 12

I'm looking into possibly getting a voice mail system myself.  I've
been told that the Complete Communicator is the best (at least in the
area of fax/modem & voice mail I guess).  They have their CC Gold that
I was looking at, but it's only a 9600 baud modem and I'd like to jump
up to 14.4K.

Does anybody know of a fax/modem voice mail card that incorporates
14.4K modem speed as well?  I've heard of ZyXEL -- supposedly they
have a new upgrade that has voice mail added to their fax/modem.  Can
anyone attest to the quality of this brand of fax/modems?


Thanks,

Michael Rosen    Tau Epsilon Phi - George Washington University
mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu   Michael.Rosen@bbs.oit.unc.edu or @lambada.oit.unc.edu
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 02:47 PDT
From: john@zygot.ati.com (John Higdon)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: LD Transmission Quality Comparison
Reply-To: John Higdon <john@zygot.ati.com>
Organization: Green Hills and Cows
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 777, Message 5 of 7

gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews) writes:

> The point I've been trying to make is that your connection troubles
> might have been caused by this interaction and not by the quality of
> the LD carrier.  It would be unfair to criticize the LD carrier
> because the original PEP modems couldn't keep their echo cancellers
> off the line.

I bought into this once. In fact, we ended up upgrading every single
modem in our domain to BC7.00. And after we went through all of that
(on the urging of Sprint AND the Telebit service department), it made
not one bit of difference. What it DID do was ruin the ability of our
modems to talk to some of our neighbors who had lower versions of
firmware, but it did not significantly affect the poor throughput on
MCI and Sprint. (When I upgraded to BC7.00 it caused the connection to
my newsfeed site, from which I receive as much as 16 meg per day, to
continually fail. We suffered with this until he upgraded also.)

Logic tells us that AT&T uses echo cancellers. The question that I ask
is, how can AT&T do it and MCI and Sprint cannot? Someone from Sprint
even had the gall to tell me that the problems were caused by the
modems because "AT&T uses older equipment and the newer Sprint
equipment requires certain standards that these OLDER modems are not
meeting". Yeah, sure.


John Higdon  |   P. O. Box 7648   |   +1 408 264 4115     |       FAX:
john@ati.com | San Jose, CA 95150 | 10288 0 700 FOR-A-MOO | +1 408 264 4407
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 19:27:03 EDT
From: hansen@pegasus.att.com (Tony L Hansen)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Fax Store-and-Forward Service Wanted
Organization: AT&T
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 776, Message 14 of 14

> The "Subject:"-line asks it all -- if there are any fax-transmission
> store-and-forward services (doing for FAX what MCI's Messenger and AT&T's
> voice-store-and-forward do for voice), how do I find them?

Call AT&T EasyLink Services (1-800-624-3672) and ask about their
Enhanced Fax service. It does exactly what you want.


		Tony Hansen
    hansen@pegasus.att.com, tony@attmail.com
	att!pegasus!hansen, attmail!tony
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:21:28 GMT
From: shing@spot.Colorado.EDU (SHING PUI-SHUM BENSON)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: And NOW, For a Limited Time Only, Caller-ID in Denver)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 765, Message 5 of 12

You may not know, but Denver's Public Utilities Commision (PUC --
often known as PUCK for no other reason than a neat name) did NOT want
US West to install Caller ID in the Denver metro area due to too many
people who insisted that it was an invasion of privacy, an annoyance,
and just another option to make people pay more on their bills.
Denver's PUC was really serious about not letting this go through, but
it seems they and US West have come to an agree- ment.  From what I
hear, USW will install CID temporarily, and offer free CID blocking to
those who ask for it before it's up and running.  Below are two briefs
from the newspaper:


{Rocky Mountain News}
'Corporate Clips' pg 138
Sun., Oct. 4, 1992
 
U S West Inc.

The Colorado Public Utilities Commision last week approved a
compromise agreement between U S West and the Colorado Consumer
Counsel that will allow in Denver within 90 days.  U S West said
that consumers will have 90 days to apply for free line blocking,
which prevents outgoing calls being monitored by the Caller ID
service. 

                     -------------
 
{Rocky Mountain News}
'Colorado Report' pg 138
Sun., Oct. 4, 1992
 
   U S West's controversial Caller ID service Wednesday got the
go-ahead for the Denver metro area.

   The Colorado Public Utilities Commision approved a compromise
agreement that will bring Caller ID -- which lets people know who's
calling them -- to Denver on a trial basis in 60 to 90 days.

                           -------------

And what *I* want to know is, if I buy a decoder and US West kills
CID, do I get my money back?  (Actually, I won't buy from USW, but the
thought is still there for other customers ...)


Shing


[Moderator's Note: Don't worry ... they won't kill it.   PAT]
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 23:11:42 CDT
From: phil@wubios.wustl.edu (J. Philip Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Health Costs and Telecommunications
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 765, Message 2 of 12

The following was posted to several health related lists - but I
thought that the readers here might be interested in the study.
Discussion should probably be continued on other lists, not here.


phil

 Forwarded message:
 From: SABBATINI@CCVAX.UNICAMP.BR

TELECOMS: A HEALTH CARE REMEDY?

Soaring US health care costs can be reduced by more than $36 billion
using telecommunications, according to a report by Arthur D. Little
Inc., commissioned by eight major US telecoms companies.

The study found that electronic management and transport of patient
information offers the greatest savings in terms of money and time.
Among these applications are home-based terminal systems for patients
to transmit self-administered test results such as blood pressure over
the telephone to a physician, reducing trips to and lenght of stay at
hospitals. The transmission of fixed images such as X-rays between
remote locations and hospitals has also been effective.

Nynex Corp., for example, has provided Massachussetts General Hospital
with a fiber optic network for quick transfer of images and records
among sites in three Massachussetts cities. Finally, the electronic
management of patient data reduces the number of of errors and
tracking of files associated with manually written records.

Another health care-telecoms solution is electronics claims processing
(CWI, 10 Aug). More than four billion claims are submitted annually.
By automating the process, according to the Arthur D. Little report,
patients are reimbursed more quickly than with paper claims filed by
mail. Likewise, electronic data links between hospitals and suppliers
can speed the inventory process. Electronic data interchange reduces
the amount of time spent placing and expediting orders for hospital
supplies by providing electronic purchase orders, confirmations,
invoices, fund transfers, and price and sales catalogs.

Videoconferencing has also been increasingly used, specifically for
remote consultations and education, according to the report.  For
example, the Medical College of Georgia is using a broadband network
service provided by Bell-South Corp. to allow specialists at its
teaching hospital in Augusta, GA, to examine patients 130 miles away
with biomedical telemetry devices, such as electronic stethoscopes and
digitized X-rays, and interactive video equiment.


(Transcribed from Communications Week International, Issue 91,
August 1992 (C) 1992 CWI Inc.)

 FROM: SABBATINI@CCVAX.UNICAMP.BR
 POSTED TO: MEDINF-L, MEDNETS, HSPNET-L, VETINFO, NRSING-L, SBIS-L
           COCAMED

 *** PLEASE DO NOT CROSS-POST TO THESE LISTS ***


     J. Philip Miller, Professor, Division of Biostatistics, Box 8067
	 Washington University Medical School, St. Louis MO 63110
     phil@wubios.WUstl.edu - Internet  (314) 362-3617 [362-2694(FAX)]
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 08:25:50 GMT
From: mrj@moria.cs.su.oz.au (Mark James)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Detection of Pulse Dial Codes by Information Response Systems
Reply-To: mrj@cs.su.oz.au (Mark James)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 773, Message 4 of 15

I dialed an airline automated infomation system the other day and it
allowed responses to be either tone or pulse encoded.

The tones could be detected at any time, but you had to wait till
after a beep for the pulse code to be recognised.

What mechanism to they use to detect the pulses?

Can you buy equipment that will respond to tones and pulses?

Are pulses only able to be detected on an incoming analog line, or
could they also be detected on an ISDN line from a call originating in
the POTS network?

Thanks for your help,


Mark James                                   |  EMAIL : mrj@cs.su.oz.au  |
Basser Department of Computer Science, F09   |  PHONE : +61-2-692-4276   |
The University of Sydney NSW 2006 AUSTRALIA  |  FAX   : +61-2-692-3838   |
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:01:26 MST
From: Mr John W Shaver <shaver@huachuca-emh7.army.mil>
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Local Battery
Organization: TELECOM Digest
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 776, Message 4 of 14

On the old telephones before breakup, a local battery was two or three
1.5 volt A-Cells. As noted earlier, when you could not be heard, you
changed the batteries. I was amazed to find in later years that the
50V central battery became about four volts across the carbon microphone.

I have in my possession a WE 1.5 volt wet cell. Does someone know how
the lid on these cells was attached to the glass cell. If there was
material, it has long since disappeared.


              John W. Shaver
     602 538 7622 // DSN 879 7622 // FTS 658 7622
     FAX 538 0656 // DSN 879 0656_// FTS 658 0656
From: jrc5@pl122a.eecs.lehigh.edu (Josh Cohen EMT)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: ATM Technical Information Wanted
Date: 12 Oct 92 02:38:02 GMT
Organization: TELECOM Digest
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 773, Message 8 of 15

Do you have or know where I can get any technical information on ATM
machines/cards or other magnetically encoded card systems? I am
currently taking a proseminar course at Lehigh University in Computer
Engineering and that is my topic.  Unfortunately up to now, I have not
been able to find much information at all.

Please help :-)
	

jrc5@lehigh.edu    jrc5@pl122a.eecs.lehigh.edu
	

[Moderator's Note: Actually, the banks, credit card processors and a
few others would prever that you not find out much information about
the topic ... but TELECOM Digest readers will come to the rescue I am
sure with all you ever wanted to know on the topic.    PAT]
From: FLINTON@EAGLE.WESLEYAN.EDU (Fred E.J. Linton)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Fax Store-and-Forward Service Wanted
Date: 10 Oct 92 18:14:49 GMT
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 770, Message 10 of 11

The "Subject:"-line asks it all -- if there are any fax-transmission
store-and-forward services (doing for FAX what MCI's Messenger and
AT&T's voice-store-and-forward do for voice), how do I find them?

(I'm tired of running into busy trunks, busy recipient fax-machine, or
recipient fax machine's ring-no-answer signals outside office hours in
connection with a fax I'm trying to send to Zimbabwe University.)

[The paper mail version I sent two days ago may get through quicker
than its fax counterpart, at the rate I'm going.]


Many thanks.	

Fred E.J. Linton  Wesleyan U. Math. Dept.  649 Sci. Tower  Middletown, CT 06459
E-mail:  <FLINTON@eagle.Wesleyan.EDU>     ( or  <fejlinton@{att|mci}mail.com> )
Tel.:         + 1 203 776 2210 (home)      or     + 1 203 347 9411 x2249 (work)


[Moderator's Note: Illinois Bell has offered 'fax mailbox' for a
couple years now. This is just like voicemail, but for faxes. You can
either use it as an overflow to your existing fax line (IBT sets up
'transfer on busy/no answer' on that line) or as a stand-alone place
to have your fax messages left; that is, fax senders can dial direct
to the mailbox. You need not even tell them that is what it is since
you program your 'answerback' in the box yourself, just like a
voicemail greeting. If used as an overflow, then the system tries to call
your regular fax line every minute or two to deliver the fax once your
machine is available. Or you can tell it to hold all mail in the box
for your pickup; then you use any fax machine of your choice to call
the mailbox. Naturally, passwords are used to insure privacy and all
system features are user programmable. People without a fax machine at
all can use it to store incoming faxes which they then pick up from a
public fax machine, or one in an office they are visiting, etc.  Costs
about $10 per month I think, maybe less. Like voicemail, faxmail is
virtually non-blocking, busy signals are rare, etc.  PAT]
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992  21:50:21 EDT
From: FZC@CU.NIH.GOV
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: "...is the Highest Law of the Land..."
Reply-To: TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
Organization: TELECOM Digest
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 773, Message 7 of 15

Here's a little tidbit I forgot about.

Many years ago I lived in California and did some research into State
Constitutional provisions and discovered something interesting that is
rarely mentioned.

It is also unusual in that it is a feature which no other state
provides for, and is an extremely strong provision.

Two sections of the California Constitution provide that the highest
law of the state is not the State Constitution, but the Public
Utilities Code.  The State Legislature may create any provisions in
the Public Utilities Code and as long as those provisions are
applicable to the regulation of Public Utilities, if those provisions
conflict with the State Constitution, the provision of the Public
Utilities Code will override the State Constitution.


Paul Robinson -- TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
These (uninformed) opinons are my own, and no one else is (stupid
enough to be) responsible for them.


[Moderator's Note: That is a very interesting finding ... where the
state constitution is a bit hard to change, public utility commissions
are bought and sold all the time.  :(   PAT]
From: barry@coyote.datalog.com (Barry Mishkind)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: What it Costs to Have the President Over
Date: 12 Oct 92 04:50:07 GMT
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 774, Message 2 of 14

Jim Thornton <thornton@cs.ubc.ca> writes:

> Finally, the author states that arrangements are made for the phone
> even when the president is merely flying over the city.

With all the travel due to the election, I wonder what all this costs?


Barry Mishkind     barry@coyote.datalog.com    FidoNet 1:300/11.3


[Moderator's Note: It costs plenty. Of course with a deficit of umpty-
trillion dollars, I guess it is a small outlay by comparison. Do you
know how Perot got to the debate Sunday night?  He flew on a
commercial airline with a couple aides, and took a taxi from the
airport to the hall. On the plane, he greeted people who came up to
him to wish him well, etc.   PAT]
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:25:06 -0400
From: sethb@fid.Morgan.COM (Seth Breidbart)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: British Call Waiting (was My Favorite Intercepts)
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 776, Message 9 of 14

The major advantage of anything-on-hold during call waiting comes when
both parties get calls.  You put me on hold to take your second call;
while I'm waiting, another call comes in for me, and I take it.  Now,
when you return to my call, you get silence, and will often hang up  :-(


Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: TERRY@spcvxa.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: Re: Distinctive Ringing Availability on #1ESS
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:31:52 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US
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X-Telecom-Digest: Volume 12, Issue 767, Message 17 of 17


  Well, both the 1ESS and the 1AESS are "computer controlled"
switches, while the 5ESS is a true digital switch.

  Anyway, the official name for the feature you're interested in is
"Multiple Directory Numbers Per Line With Distinctive Ringing" (now
you know why the RBOC's pick "cute" names for services like this 8-),
and is described in detail in AT&T Pub 231-390-395. The feature is
available on the 1AESS starting at 1AE9.05. While not incredibly
ancient, I wouldn't call that release "current" as I believe 1AE12 or
1AE13 is current.

  So, the question boils down to whether you really have a 1ESS or a
1AESS serving your line. I think it rather unlikely that it's a basic
1ESS, as the savings on the 1A should cover the upgrade. However, only
your phone company knows for sure.

  Regarding the interaction with Call Waiting, the interaction summary
says: "... The dependent DN's access all the features associated with
the master DN. ..."


Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381