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From: tlm@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca  (Tom Marchioro)
Subject: Re: Access NeXTmail via SLIP.
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 16:29:21 GMT

[] In article <1992Aug28.131212.7019@linus.mitre.org>
[]adz@heckle.mitre.org (Andrew D. Zenowich) writes:
[]
[]Sorry if this question has been asked and answered several
[]times but I am new to this group and have not seen any related
[]postings here.
[]
[]My question is this, we have a network of NeXT machines each
[]running NeXTmail and their mailboxes are local on each users
[]machine. These  people want to be able to read/reply to there
[]mail from on the road using either a notebook PC or a PowerBook
[]dialing in through a SLIP line. I have looked into running a POP
[]server on each machine and  then using a POP SLIP client on the
[]portables but then either the  mail remains in the mail spool to
[]be gotten a second time by the  POP client or it is removed from the
[]spool not allowing  incorporation into the Nextmail system. I
[]recall some mention of PINE in an earler posting, will that do
[]what we need.

I had posted earlier to the effect that someone should consider using Elm,  
and setting its default directory for mail to be ~/Mailboxes/Active.mbox
for each user.  Elm easily supports multiple mail folders, so it will 
read in whatever is in /usr/spool/mail into its mailbox, and you can 
change to the NeXTmail mbox by just typing "c" for change folder and then  
"=mbox" when asked to specify the new folder.  This puts you into the  
NeXTmail mbox and off you go.  Elm is infinitely more powerful than the  
crummy /ucb/mail the NeXT comes with, and it should compile straight-  
forwardly on the NeXT.  

In response to my earlier post another fellow wrote in to the effect that  
PINE also did all of these things, and that he liked it better.  I'm not  
familiar enough with PINE to give a comparison, but suggest you get either  
of the two,  install it, and give it a try.  If you do decide on Elm and  
have any problems feel free to drop me a note.

Hope this is helpful --- tom
From: ddj+@CMU.EDU (Douglas F. DeJulio)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Looking for programming languages
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:28:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.0eawp2i00VI80BLZsw
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

asd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth) writes:
> I'm looking for any and ALL languages that are out there that you
> folks are using, or know can be used on NeXT's.  I checked the FAQ
> sheet on it, but it doesn't cover nearly enough languages.
> 
> Here's basically the largest list of languages I can think of:
> 
> Basic, Cobol, Ada, APL, Lisp (any variety), Prolog, Pascal, Forth,
> Fortran, Logo, ML, FP, Icon, Modula, OCCAM, OPS5, Smalltalk, SNOBOL.

Well, I occasionally use INTERCAL on my NeXTstation...
-- 
Doug DeJulio
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From: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com (Michael Pizolato)
Subject: Looking for graphics format conversion.
Reply-To: Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:44:38 GMT

I have several graphics files that originated in DOS with extensions .bmp and  
.bbm.  I'm unfamiliar with the formats and I have to convert them to tiff (and  
some possibly to eps) for use in a NeXT app I'm writing.  Does anyone know what  
these formats might be, and if so is there a utility to convert to tiff and/or  
eps?  The utility can run on either DOS, NeXT, Sun, or Mac, as long as I wind up  
with the correct format.

Thanx,
Michael

--
Michael_Pizolato@afs.com
~18 kyu
Q16
NeXTMail appreciated
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From: pirla@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Subject: Re: Foreign language dictionaries?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:00:12 GMT


Does anyone know why Wordperfect has "provisions" for multiligual 
spell-checking (sp?) and yet does not supply the foreign language dictionaries?
*is* the point of the languages menu item?

Thanks

rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu

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Distribution: 
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Keywords: Correction RE: Message #537 dated Tues, 1 Sep 1992
From: award@dreamland.rice.edu (Andrew M. Ward)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Scheme ported to NeXT
Keywords: scheme, lisp
Date: 3 Sep 1992 16:14:52 GMT
Organization: Rice University


Hi -

Has anybody ported SCHEME to the NeXT?  If so, is there an FTP site where it  
can befound?  I need a version of MIT or ``Che'' Scheme.  The gnuemacs version  
does not seem to be a good fit. 

Thanks.

--
Best regards,
Andrew
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: Joseph R. Grace <jgrace@TetraSoft.com>
Subject: CDPlayer0.8, NeXTSTEP say "External Disk Unreadable"
Keywords: CD problem unreadable
Organization: TetraSoft International
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:30:44 GMT

Hi,

I am trying to play a CD in my CD-ROM but nothing seems to work.  When I insert  
a CD into the CD-ROM, NeXTSTEP says "External Disk Unreadable  
[Ignore|Initialize]".  Needless to say, this is not the behavior I am looking  
for :-).

I have tried different device names for the CD-ROM.  I have tried running  
CDPlayer0.8 before loading the disk.  Nothing seems to help.

So...  what is the correct device for a CD-ROM configured as SCSI Device #3?
       how does CDPlayer0.8 get a "readable" disk?

Thanks,

= Joe =
-- 
Joe Grace <jgrace@TetraSoft.com>
TetraSoft International   Business and Personal Productivity Tools for NeXTSTEP
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From: kris@coyote.fdn.org (Christophe Janot)
Subject: Re: WhichX?
Reply-To: kris@coyote.fdn.org (Christophe Janot)
Organization: RNuG
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 19:37:13 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.203442.21031@tandem.com>  
chopper@gumbytsg.tandem.com (Michael Chop) writes:
> | My major concers are I'd like to run an X-applications  
> alongside my NeXTstep stuff.  And I'd like the performance to be  
> pretty good too!

If you look for good performance, consider the Cub'x window package. This X  
server owns three major running modes:
     - Rootless windows
     - Stand alone mode (X running without NeXTstep)
     - Side by side mode (X display is in a virtual screen on the right of your
       monitor. If you move the mouse cursor to the rightmost position of your
       monitor, you switch to the X display). This mode is really cool !
Motif is available (of course !).
And speedlight is a good definition for the display rate.

Kris
-- 
When will RightBrain stop filling the netnews with their advertising or marketing posts ?

kris@coyote.fdn.org
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From: gkj@jacobs.esd.ornl.gov (Gary K. Jacobs)
Subject: Graphics Files to WordPerfect
Reply-To: gkj@ornl.gov
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 16:35:47 GMT

Has anyone found a convenient way to incorporate graphics saved on a NeXT  
as .eps or .tiff into a WordPerfect document. The .eps choice demands that  
you print to a postscript printer and my coleague does have access to one.  
The .tiff format seems to generate poor resolution grpahics once they are  
in WordPerfect. 

E-mail response to gkj@ornl.gov. I will summarize and post a followup.

Thanks!

________________________________
dr. gary k jacobs

Geochemistry Group
Earth & Atmospheric Sciences
Environmental Sciences Division
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From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney)
Subject: Re: Allegro CL 3.1.20 and NeXTstep 3.0
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 06:35:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.162020.1988@leland.Stanford.EDU> bil@cmn16.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt) writes:

>   Path: ads.com!decwrl!sdd.hp.com!swrinde!mips!darwin.sura.net!haven.umd.edu!uunet!stanford.edu!leland.Stanford.EDU!news
>   From: bil@cmn16.Stanford.EDU (Bill Schottstaedt)
>   Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
>   Date: 27 Aug 92 16:20:20 GMT
>   References: <BtIxqE.4oJ.2@cs.cmu.edu>
>   Sender: news@leland.Stanford.EDU (Mr News)
>   Organization: DSO, Stanford University
>   Lines: 11
>
>   In article <BtIxqE.4oJ.2@cs.cmu.edu> anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed)  
>   writes:
>   > In article <BtIxLC.4FI.2@cs.cmu.edu> anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed)  
>   writes:
>   > >Minor versions don't match in "/usr/shlib/libNeXT_s.C.shlib".
>   > >This image cannot be executed.
>   > 
>   > BTW, I had just tried this when reading your post.  Is it possible that
>   > rebuilding the lisp will help?
>
>   no.

Also I talked with Franz yesterday and they said that Allegro CL 4.1 for the
NeXT would not be ready for quite some time. Meaning there is no overlapping
solution for people using CL.

In the mean time I wonder if AKCL will compile and work on 3.0?  Anybody
tried it?



--
Bill Vrotney
Advanced Decision Systems
From: gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (Gregory Lampshire)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: does NS3.0 ship with a TeX that uses NFSS?
Date: 4 Sep 92 17:35:04 GMT



My question is all in the subject line :-)

--
Gregory Lampshire 
Virginia Tech 
Bradley Department of Electrical Engineering
gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
------------------------
My opinions are my very own and do not reflect the opinions of any  
employer
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From: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Subject: Re: Searching for ZyXEL_Fax_Driver (send/receive)
Reply-To: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de (Thomas Funke)
Organization: NNU Corp. - NeXT is Not UN*X
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 15:02:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.132151.6648@ni.umd.edu> louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis  
A. Mamakos) writes:
> 
> Look on sonata.cc.purdue.edu and cs.orst.edu for NXFax_1.02.tar.Z and
> NXFaxREADME.rtf.  This is a demo of a commercial product.  I use it on
> my ZyXEL and it works. 	It handles the FAX modem the right way by 
> automatically recognizing an incoming FAX call or data call.
> 

But beware: It does a "AT&W" after it changed some modem-settings, thus  
destroying your own settings. Not really nice I believe. 

-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------
Thomas Funke  ** E-mail: thf@zelator.in-berlin.de
NeXT-Developer * Unix-Consultant
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From: todd@liveware.com
Subject: Re: Simon Says review on the archives
Keywords: Review
Reply-To: todd@liveware.com
Organization: Liveware Corporation   Fort Collins, CO.  USA.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:47:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.210146.11282@Trirex.COM> mmelling@Trirex.com(Michael  
Mellinger) writes:
> I'm considering buying Simon Says, and I would like to hear from some  
> people who have used it for some time.  Did the product meet your  
> expectations?  In practice does it recognize what you have to say >95% of  
> the time.  My only experience with it was with a demo version in a noisy  
> computer lab, and it didn't work very well.  Is version 1.1 much of an  
> improvement?  In short, is it worth the money?
> 
> -Mike

Sometime ago, without blowing hot air I hope, I did a review
of Simon Says.  The review is on the archives located
at...

sonata.cc.purdue.edu:/pub/next/docs/SimonSaysReview.tar.Z

Generally the reviews where in favor of the product...  See
and read for yourself... ;')

Todd Nathan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jon@afs.com (Jonathan Hendry)
Subject: BattleChess?
Distribution: USA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:01:05 GMT



Has anyone heard any rumors regarding a port of BattleChess to the NeXT?

--
Jonathan Hendry  Anderson Financial Systems
jon@afs.com  (Nextmail Welcome!)
hendryjw@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu
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From: jake@skatter.usask.ca
Subject: Windowserver hack 
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 06:13:34 GMT

A while ago someone posted a hack for the window server that allowed one
to change the key app using command-alternate up/down arrow.
Or something like that.

I would appreciate someone mailing me the details.

Thank you and have a good day.

jake@skatter.usask.ca

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From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney)
Subject: Allegro CL 3.1.20 fix for 3.0
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 09:59:58 GMT


Recall the anonymous fellows that claimed they have a fix for Allegro
CL 3.1.20 so that it will run under NeXTstep 3.0.  I asked them to run the
Calculator example to verify that the fix works. Well they did and
discovered that although the base Lisp Works the Objective C interface did
not. I asked them to send me the fix anyway. If they do send me the fix with
permission I will post it here.

I also talked with Franz and apparently whether or not the Objective C
interface will still be supported in Allegro 4.1 is still up in the air. You
can gripe about this by email or phone to:


        Mike Margulies
        Franz Inc.
        mjm@franz.com
        510-548-3600

--
Bill Vrotney
Advanced Decision Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mjh@minkowski.mit.edu (Michael J. Hopkins)
Subject: communication software
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 16:45:44 GMT

This is probably really idiotic:

People keep recommending zmodem to me.  Can someone tell me
how to use it?  I've downloaded the source from sonata,
and compiled it, and I can't figure out what to do.
Do I need special communications software?  I have
been using kermit, but I kind of doubt I can get it
to use the zmodem protocol.

This brings me to my other question.  What communication software
do people recommend.  Is Microphone II pretty good?



Thanks.

Mike Hopkins
mjh@math.mit.edu
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Subject: Re: Cursor customisation in Stuart?
From: scott@nic.gac.edu (Scott Hess)
Date: 29 Aug 92 02:16:45
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College
In-reply-to: bcs@waikato.ac.nz's message of 29 Aug 92 15:52:42 +1200Lines: 44

[As scott deftly avoids anything sounding like *advertising*hype* ...]

In article <1992Aug29.155242.10447@waikato.ac.nz> bcs@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>I gather that "*issed off" is a required part of postings in this
>group - still, I hope someone will reply even if I don't conform.

Wow, if this is pissed off, I'd _hate_ to see contented!  This is
praising me with faint damns ...

>What's annoying me (note the rather clever re-wording) is that, in
>both Terminal and Stuart2.3 (yes - I admit it: I haven't pulled
>the latest incarnation off the net yet) on our monochrome TurboSlabs
>the cursor is very difficult to see.  It comes up in light grey.
>Is there a way of changing this to white-on-black or something so
>I can at least see which emacs (not Emacs) window the darn thing
>is in?

Unfortunately, no, not even in the latest incarnation.  Sorry.
I'd really really really _really_ *REALLY* wanted to make Stuart2.4
have all sorts of color/gray-setting knobs and bells and whistles,
but unfortunately I never got around to it.  Actually, I never got
around to rewriting the storage and display stuff, which would have
given me the color/gray-setting for free.

So, now it's passed off to Stuart2.5, which might be Stuart3.0,
and will most likely be out around Christmas-time.  Or at least in
time for NW Expo (should there be one, and I plan to attend).

>Failing that, is there another terminal emulator that might be more
>sensible, er, sensitive to us poor monofolks?

:-(.  Unfortunately, not (well, not in my price range :-).  You
mention that you have the Emacs program - that's as close as you'll
get, for now.  If you're willing to spend real money, I believe
Communicae has a dark gray cursor.  Of course, it has its own set
of faults.  I'm not certain about MicroPhone II.

And in either case you'll then miss out on all the Stuart2.4 goodies.

Later,
--
scott hess <shess@ssesco.com>  <Who achieved programmer nirvana on Aug 11th>
12901 Upton Avenue South, #326  Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208 Anytime!
   <Text: One Class to bring them all and in the darkness bind them ...>
From: matomira@disuns2.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for Digital Recording software
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:50:01 GMT
Reply-To: matomira@disuns2.epfl.ch (Fernando Mato Mira)
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Any pointers to some packages 'a la Studio Vision' or better?

-- 
Fernando D. Mato Mira
Computer Graphics Lab
Swiss Federal Institute of Technology
matomira@ligsg1.epfl.ch
From: stuarts@landau.ucdavis.edu (Stuart Staniford-Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Mathematica 2.1
Summary: What's it like and how much does it cost?
Keywords: Mathematica
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:36:28 GMT
Organization: Physics, UC Davis
Originator: stuarts@landau.ucdavis.edu

I saw a little bit in NeXTWorld about Mathematica 2.1 and the Mathematica
Plus support program.  It sounds good but there is very little detail and
I haven't received any notice from Wolfram.  So, has anybody got this yet,
how much is it going to cost us, and how good is it?  (Sorry if this is
old news but I haven't read the newsgroups lately).

Stuart.

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Department of Physics		:  NeXT-Mail cheerfully accepted.
UC Davis, CA 95616, USA.	:  regular email is fine too.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: mariani@iti.gov.sg (Tjandra Mariani)
Subject: digitized video
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:28:55 GMT

Hi there,

I need to digitize full motion video from real time input (eg Laserdisk
player) via the NeXTDimension. Does anyone know what software is
available that automatically grabs frame by frame, compresses and stores
them. Also what software to play these digitized frames as a full-motion
movie?

Also, I would appreciate very much if someone could provide me with info
of multimedia authoring tools on NeXT.

ThanQ.

Mariani
-- 

Mariani Tjandra				Multimedia-Lab
Information Technology Institute  	Internet: mariani@iti.gov.sg  
National Computer Board		 	Tel (O) :(65)772-0551
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From: gisli@hamilton.eecs.umich.edu (Gisli Ottarsson)
Subject: Problem  reading mail with RMAIL in emacs
Keywords: mail emacs
Reply-To: gisli@liapunov.eecs.umich.edu
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:52:08 GMT



Hi!

A strange problem has very suddenly come up on my NeXTStation.

When I use RMAIL in emacs (18.57) to read my mail, as I have 
been doing for over a year, multiple messages get incorporated
as one giant message.  

As far as I know nothing has changed (I am the only su).  To 
trace the problem I have done the following.

	o  used another account   ->  same result
	o  tried the unix mail program  ->  no problem there
	o  rebooted my system  ->  no effect
	o  started another RMAIL file ->  no effect

The problem is the same regardless of whether the mail is 
genuine or if I send it to myself.

Can someone suggest a remedy for this baffling and annoying problem?

			Thanks

				Gisli Ottarsson
				gisli@engin.umich.edu
From: jscherer@novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for some DSP code to receive sync data stream.
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:45:52 GMT
Reply-To: jscherer@novell.com
Organization: Novell, Inc.

I am in need of some sample NeXT DSP code that will show me how
to receive sync data over the DSP port..  I know there are two serial  
ports there, one sync, and the other async.  I have the Motorola  
DSP56000 users manual but looking at code to do this is a little  
better..


Regards,

--
John Scherer
778 Shetland Ct. 
San Jose, CA  95127

internet: jscherer@novell.com
From: eschwart@netcom.Netcom.COM (Eric Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: NeXTstep 3.0 on a NeXTstation mono?
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:44:20 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Service

What are the chances of running NeXTstep 3.0 on a NeXTstation mono with a
200 MB hard drive inside?

I'm running 2.1 now.  Is it upgradeable?  I don't have a CD-ROM drive.  Is it
even obtainable?

Eric
--

Eric Schwartz
eschwart@netcom.com
work )408( 279-7191
FAX  )408( 279-7167
-- 

Eric Schwartz
eschwart@netcom.com
work )408( 279-7191
FAX  )408( 279-7167
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From: bill@dewey.edsci.wisc.edu (Bill Roth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SLIP Routing
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:54:44 GMT
Reply-To: bill@dewey.edsci.wisc.edu
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, UW-Madison


I'm having trouble with SLIP. I dial in to a net blazer. If I dial in  
with the slip0 set as the default network route, I can't get out. The  
packets are sent but not received. Not until I start routed am I  
unable to get out, and then I can only get out to certain nets. What  
is the problem?

Also, If I'm on a classB subnet (128.105.0.0) what should my netmask  
be?

Bill Roth.
From: asd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Kareth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Looking for programming languages
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:52:20 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

I'm looking for any and ALL languages that are out there that you
folks are using, or know can be used on NeXT's.  I checked the FAQ
sheet on it, but it doesn't cover nearly enough languages.

Here's basically the largest list of languages I can think of:

Basic, Cobol, Ada, APL, Lisp (any variety), Prolog, Pascal, Forth,
Fortran, Logo, ML, FP, Icon, Modula, OCCAM, OPS5, Smalltalk, SNOBOL.

I'm interested in finding out if there are compilers/interpretors/
convertors/etc for these languages, and where they can be found,
public domain or not.  Some I've already found, but would like to find
any and all sources.  So if you're using one of these on your, please
let me know, and if you're using something I haven't listed, let me
know too.

I'll compile all responses and post my results.

So if it's a language, and you're using it on a NeXT, drop me a line!

-k

p.s. okay, so COBOL isn't a *real* language, but lots of folks use it
so might as well include it. :)
From: bcs@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Cursor customisation in Stuart?
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:52:42 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Hi all,

I gather that "*issed off" is a required part of postings in this group - 
still, I hope someone will reply even if I don't conform.

What's annoying me (note the rather clever re-wording) is that, in both 
Terminal and Stuart2.3 (yes - I admit it: I haven't pulled the latest 
incarnation off the net yet) on our monochrome TurboSlabs the cursor is
very difficult to see.  It comes up in light grey.  Is there a way of 
changing this to white-on-black or something so I can at least see which 
emacs (not Emacs) window the darn thing is in?

Failing that, is there another terminal emulator that might be more sensible,
er, sensitive to us poor monofolks?

Replies by email please - oh, and NeXTmail *not* welcome.  At least leave 
out the bandwidth-munchers huh?

TIA,

+-Brent Summers, U of Waikato, NZ----------------------------------------+
|    "Laugh and the world ignores you.  Crying doesn't help either."     |
|      All opinions expressed are, of course, solely my own errors.      |
+------------------------------------------------------bcs@waikato.ac.nz-+
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From: dpape@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel Pape)
Subject: Re: CD Player Application
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: CSO Resource Center
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:26:17 GMT

Well I found one...


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