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From: qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Aamir Hafeez Qazi)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Nissan Altima
Date: 26 Jan 1993 05:53:45 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
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Originator: qazi@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


--Just a quick question.  Japanese-market Nissan Altimas(a.k.a. Bluebird) have
  the option of a noise cancellation system integrated in the stereo system.
  Some electronic device picks up unwanted sounds in the passenger
  compartment and sends out inaudible sound waves that cancel the unwanted
  noise.  Does anyone know why Nissan decided not to offer it here?  It seems
  like a good idea to have it in the top-line Altimas at least.

--Aamir Qazi

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Aamir Qazi
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From: lerner@cs.columbia.edu (Michah Lerner)
Subject: Removable radios compatible with FORD dashboard volume controls?
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Distribution: rec.autos
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:58:33 GMT

Are there any removable radios that are compatible with the dashboard volume
flipper on the 1992/1993 Taurus/Sable?  Is there a way to wire a removable
radio so this flipper still works, and also so the radio illumination dims when
you dim the dashboard (for night driving, if you don't want your night vision
blasted by internal illuminations).  The alternative is to put the standard
Ford AM/FM/Cassette into a Bensai box, but this is said to protrude about 1.5
inches.  This would block the handy coffee-cup change holders.
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Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.autos,alt.autos.rod-n-custom
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:39:23 -0500 
From: "Nathan J. Nagel" <nn22+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: 1994 Pontiac GTO
	<1993Jan25.183658.5386@MorningStar.Com>

>>1994 Pontiac GTO, hell.  Is Chevy still going to forge ahead with their
>>plan to release a new Monte Carlo based on the Beretta?  
>>
>>And does anyone particularly want them to?
> 
>I haven't heard the news about the new Monte Carlo, but I did read that
>GM was really disappointed in the sales of the Chevy Caprice and they
>were going to come out with a Caprice SS in '93 or '94.  I believe that
>the SS model is going to have a different body style, in fact the
>picture accompanying the article sorta looked like a Thunderbird.

    I think the Caprice SS is still in the show car stage, but don't I
seem to remember seeing a show car from Chevy called the Monte Carlo
maybe last year?  For some reason I think it was not based on the Lumina
at all but _REAR WHEEL DRIVE_!! Is there still hope?  (please correct me
if my memory is screwing with me again.)

-Nate



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From: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Subject: Re: Politics of car buying(Buying a Japanese car)
Reply-To: dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:29:13 GMT

In article <CARL.93Jan26153758@atlantis.Cayman.COM>, carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl) writes:
|> 
|> >Everyone seems to be missing a few really basic points in this
|> >discussion of our trade imbalance.  First: population and
|> >productivity.  Japan has a comparatively small population and high
|> >productivity.  USA has a high population and lower productivity.  So
|> 
|> First, Japan has approximatly 50% the population of the US.  I would
|> NOT consider that small!!!

Actually, I believe the population of Japan is about 80 million, while the
population of the U.S. is about 260 million (re: 30%).

|> Second, I think that you're pissing into the wind by stating "Japan
|> has high productivity."  In certain arena they do have higher
|> productivity that we do but the converse is also true.  They are
|> certainly *not* supermen doing the work of 5 people here in the US.

Correct, but the Japanese auto manufactures in particular seem to be more
productive (in fact, their plants here in Canada and the U.S. are very
productive as well).

|> >long as we can't produce all that we want to consume, someone
|> >(Japanese or otherwise) is going to have a big trade imbalance with
|> >us.
|> 
|> >A second point is about population itself.  Even if we and the
|> >Japanese do lower all trade barriers (real and imagined) we'll still
|> >have a trade imbalance with them.  The Japanese market (for cars, or
|> >anything) just isn't as big as ours.  Couple this with the high
|> >housing costs in Japan, which severely limits the disposable income
|> >there, and you'll find the market prospects very poor indeed.
|> 
|> Do you know that it costs LESS to buy many Japanese made products HERE
|> in the US and ship it back to Japan than it costs to BUY IN JAPAN!!!
|> 
|> >The USA needs to get to work fixing our own problems, not pointing fingers
|> >at imaginary bad guys.
|> 
|> We may have problems to take care of here but ALL of the finger
|> pointing isn't misplaced.
|> 
|> I have a friend who just arrived back after spending two years in
|> Japan.  While he was there he bought a pair of shoes (loafers, no big
|> deal) - price $160 (US).  The stories about apples costing $5 are all
|> true (and he says they don't taste anywhere near as good as ours).
|> 
|> So, if we have a level playing ground, perhaps we won't get the whole
|> Japanese car market but there is a HUGE Japanese electronic and food
|> market that's just waiting for Japan to drop it's protectionist
|> attitudes.
|> 
|> -Carl-

Keep in mind that the Japanese pay about 5% tax, thus all the companies provide
medical care, education, etc..  They have to pay for it, so they do so with high
prices.  Which just goes to prove you can never avoid taxes.

Don Clayton
a.k.a. Admiral Maverick, DM of the Drow
My brain, my thoughts, my words.
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From: dlyon@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au (Darren Lyon)
Subject: Re: Minis >> Moke Parts
Organization: Griffith University.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:17:08 GMT

10 inch wheels on a moke..man must be old !!!!
If ya wanting parts in Australia here are the best places to go
1. Mini Kingdom Ph(02)774-3388 Fax (02)772-4279
 112 Milperra Rd,reversby,nsw,2212

2. The mini car clinic Ph(02)774 3366 fax (02) 774 1309
  80 Gibson Av, Padstow, NSW 2211
3. British auto parts
 ph (02) 707 2466 fax (02) 707 2112

4. Mini Auto spares
 ph (02) 489 4871 Fax (02) 489 5520
5. Northern mini parts
 ph (03)458 2111 fax (03) 459 3393

6. Karcraft (02)796 7377  Fax (02) 707 3976

7. Mini parts ph (03) 729 9522   Fax (03)720 7146

8. link automotive ph (03)874 8648 Fax(03) 874 6687

9. Geoff trew motors ph (075)32 6498

If any one in Oz likes minis get hole of ya latest copy 
of Fast fours and rotories, or hot 4's and wild rotories
they are $4.00 and $3.95 respectively (Oz dollar)
and fast 4's have published a special "hottest minis"
edition, so check it out, especially the 198 bhp twin cam head

if anyone has any question, send email to
dlyon@gucis.cit.gu.edu.au and i will try and help !!

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: murray_t@wizard.colorado.edu
Subject: RE: looking for 4wd mail group.
Organization: UMS
Date: 22 JAN 93 16:26:03 MST

In a previous article, glaird@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Gordon Laird) wrote:
>From: glaird@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Gordon Laird)
>    I'm looking to join a mail group that concentrates on 'off road', '4wd',
>and/or 'sport utility' topics.  Something similar to the 'mustang' or 'camaro'
>mail groups.  Does anyone out there know of such an electronic place?  Thanks.

To subscribe to the OFFROAD mailing list, E-mail to:

     OFFROAD-REQUEST@AI.GTRI.GATECH.EDU
From: hacksaw@cellar.org (Hacksaw)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: The Big Rigs
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:51:28 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system


   I guess this is as good a place as any to ask this:
 
   Out of curiousity, what kind of horsepower do the big diesel engines put 
out? What kind of mileage do they get? And, on a well kept engine, how many 
miles should one expect to get from it? Somehow, I can't imagine them 
dying much before the 500,000 mark. Am I way off?
 
  Hack --They're a modern day steam engine-- Saw

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The Cellar BBS - (215) 539-3043
From: jslee@nrtc.nrtc.northrop.com (John Lee <jslee>)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 1-800 for Ford
Date: 21 Jan 93 23:58:26 GMT
Reply-To: jslee@nrtc.nrtc.northrop.com (John Lee)
Distribution: na

> bing@jazz.concert.net (Carter E. Bing) writes:
>	Could someone pass the 1-800 number for Ford to me.

	Based on previous experience with them, it may as well be
1-800-YOU-LOSE or 1-800-TUF-LUCK.

	I dont seem to be able to find it, though....it's in the
back of the user manual.
JSLee
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: garyh@sco.COM (< Gary H >)
Subject: Re: Q: how do i know if i need a new catalytic converter?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:37:53 GMT


In article <hellmann.728020981@sycamore.cs.scarolina.edu> hellmann@cs.scarolina.edu (Doug Hellmann) writes:
>>Good luck . . . Dave
>
>Also you might want to hold your hand over the end of the tailpipe when
>the car is running.  If you don't feel much air coming out, your
>converter is probably clogged.  Also, they say to smell the exhaust and
>if it smells like sulfur, some sort of terrible chemical reaction has
>taken place inside the converter and it should be replaced.  

Wait da minute! If the converter is new, IT SHOULD SMELL LIKE SULFUR.  That's
why new cars have that sulfur smell to it when it's running.

Gary
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From: mjv8557@eafs000.ca.boeing.com (Mark J. Vandiver)
Subject: Re: 1984 Ford Bronco II (advice sought)..
Keywords: Ford 4wd, Bronco
Organization: be41t
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:14:08 GMT

larose@cs.utk.edu (Brian LaRose) writes:


>I am looking at a 1984 Ford Bronco II and I'd like to hear experiences
>from anybody, (good & bad).  I'm thinking of buying it as a second vehicle 
>to drive to work, (& a little offroading on weekends).  

>1)  How bad is the gas mileage?
I get about 14mpg, I have 146K mi on it.

>2)  What are experiences with 2wd/4wd setup on a bronco II.  This one
>    requires that I get out to lock in 4wd mode, I'm not sure, but I bet
>    this is better for gas mileage & wear than the "flip on the fly 4wd".
Mine requires that I get out and lock the hubs, I don't mind though, I
only use 4WD in snow/ice. I hear that the flip on th fly's clutches wear out
faster. I changfed my clutch at 133Kmi and it still had some wear on it.

>3)  Ford V6 engines?   Can I get 150K before I need a rebuild?
Mine, as I stated before has 146Kmi on it. I need a rebuild badly, blows smoke
on start and goes through 2-3 quarts in a 2500mi oilchange. My wife did run the thing
out of oil twice before though. She came in stating, "The trucks been rattleing a lot
the last 2-3weeks, could you check the oil of me?" SHIT WOMAN! tell me the first day it
rattles or go to a service station!!!! But it still runs well, has fair power, and gets
me from A to B. I took the car back after the second time this happened.

Mine is also the V6

>4)  5-Speed Manual trans?
I have the 5 speed as well, good tranny! fairly easy to pull to do the clutch, lightweight,
yet not flimsy.

>5)  brakes?  I tapped them and they grabbed real hard.

I have had no problems with the brakes, I think I may need a new master cyl before too long,
I don't get the grabs like it used to.

B
>Additional info you might need is the following:
>*  The truck has 99k miles on it.
>*  He was asking $4400, I offered 3900 and he said he'd take it.
>*  It drives real well, except that it needs a brake job. No smoke at all, 
>   idles real quitely.
>*  this was a trade in on a new dodge truck.

>Should I buy it???

That is about the mileage that I purchased mine at, I have gotten 5 good years out of it,
and I paid 3500 for it at a Ford dealership. Try and talk him down a little more.

>thank you for your experience and advice.

>-brian
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: alan@lancaster.nsc.com (The Hepburn)
Subject: RE: INSURANCE RATES?
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:07:17 GMT

In article <13607.165.uupcb@yob.sccsi.com>, erich.lim@yob.sccsi.com (Erich Lim) writes:
|> todd@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Todd Smith) writes:
|> -> yeah, you think that's bad, i'm 28, male, single with a clean record
|> -> and the best i can do for a '93 stripped cherokee (granted, it does
|> -> have 4wd) is $1450+ FOR SIX MONTHS OF COVERAGE.
|> ->
|> -> yes, i am still shopping around and no, i am not getting particularly
|> -> screwed: i do live in houston/harris county texas.
|> 
|>  Man, that's bad!  I thought I was in the pitts!  I'm 18, drive a 91'
|> Integra GS coupe with a perfect record and crank out $1280 every 6
|> months for full coverage.  All I know is Houston is a hell place to live
|> and pay for auto insurance cause of all the auto thefts.  Hate to see
|> what the rates are in New Jersey!
|> 

...and here's the other end of the scale:  I'm a married male, age 42, and
pay $1400 per YEAR for full coverage on a 1988 Jeep Wrangler, 1989 Shasta
fifth wheel trailer, and a 1990 Ford F350.  Insured through the Good Sam
Club and National General Insurance.

-- 
Alan Hepburn           "An ignorant person is one who doesn't know
National Semiconductor       what you have just found out."
Santa Clara, Ca              
alan@berlioz.nsc.com                              Will Rogers
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: dje@mail.bellcore.com (Don Eilenberger)
Subject: Re: Where is the new Toyota Supra?
Reply-To: dje@mail.bellcore.com (Don Eilenberger)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:22:56 GMT

In article <wood.727972718@siemens.com>, wood@siemens.com (Jim Wood) writes:
|> The subject heading asks it all.  I have been looking for this
|> car to debut for quite some time, expecting it in January of
|> this year.  Where is it?
|> 
|> 
Jim.. last rumors I heard is that it will be delayed until the
'94 model year.. if at all.

There was a recent commercial for Toyota exholing how much of
their vehicle and development are done in this country, and
they showed one of their California design studios.. in passing
there is a very quick glimpse of a low slung sport type clay
mockup.. perhaps the new Supra?

My gut feeling is (and I've owned 3 Supras).. they aren't too
worried about this market.. the Lexus SC400 and SC300 fit into
the price range the new supe would have to fit, and they probably
don't want to compete with themselves.. if you look at the SC series,
I think you'll see where the '92 Supra went..

I suspect part of the reason we never saw a new Supra is that the
car as designed (figure the SC Lexus now) - didn't really give the
performance that other manufacturer's were offering (300Z, Mitsu
3000GT).. and they steered it more towards luxury GT which fit
better in the Lexus line.

It's also interesting that they have discontinued the Cressida line
completely.. apparently it was (1)competing with the Lexus...
(2)since it used the Supra driveline, not economical to produce without
the Supra.

Don Eilenberger (dje@mail.bellcore.com)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
From: bill@uluru.tandem.com (Bill Norcott)
Subject: Re: Dump EEC-IV error codes?
Reply-To: norcott_bill@tandem.com (Bill Norcott)
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:49:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.174018.24204@nntpd2.cxo.dec.com>, mental@cntrol.enet.dec.com (ken mental) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 	Does anybody know how to dump error codes on an '87 Ford Tempo
|> 	(2.3L, FI, EEC-IV computer)? The Haynes manual is useless for this.
|> 
|> 	The damn thing won't start. There's spark, and fuel is reaching at 
|> 	least to the throttle body, so I figure that maybe the injector's
|> 	not opening up. I'd like to dump the error codes and see if there's 
|> 	a 'cold start sensor' or something like that that's gone bad.

Also, for has had a smog recall on the fuel injector in some '87 
Tempo & Topaz cars.  Call Customer service 1-800-392-3673, and
have your VIN number handy.  I got a new fuel injector for mine at
no cost.

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From: mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John)
Subject: Re: BMW M3 Inquiry
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 08:47:27 GMT

In <tah3kvk@rpi.edu> dharma@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Andreas Budi Dharmawan) writes:

>I'm thinking of getting an M3, not the new one though.

>I'm not fully familiar with the BMW product lines, so
>my questions are:

>        4. How is the performance of the car compared to
>           RX-7?

Well, if you are talking about the current RX-7, the Mazda will
smoke the M3. Twin-sequential turbo, rotary, lighter, better
suspension, etc. Actually, you can't compare the two, they are for
different buying segments of the population. I would compare the
performance of the RX-7 to a Porsche 968, or even Carerra 2, and
the Nissan 300ZX twin turbo, and the Mitsubishi GTO (3000GT in the
US).

>        5. How is the maintance of the car?

Like most German cars, pretty expensive.

The M3's competition was the short-lived Mercedes-Benz 2.6-16. I
believe these were (more or less) road versions of their sedan
recing cars. In actual racing, I think it was the Audi 200s that
were "cleaning their chronometers", to borrow a phrase.

Personally, I'd rather find an Audi 200 (turbocharged, AWD, more
roomy) or maybe an Audi Coupe Quattro (harder to find, similar in
size to the M3, AWD)


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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: alter@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Eric Alter)
Subject: Re: Japanese cars never die!!!!
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:33:35 GMT
Reply-To: alter@rchland.vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester Mn

In article <1993Jan21.214115.819@ab.wvnet.edu>, white_w@ab.wvnet.edu writes:
|> 	I have a little automatic 2-wheel-drive '81 subaru GL wagon, and I
|> would just like to put in my 2 cents worth.  I boutht the car used 9 months
|> ago from a dealer.  I paid $1000.  Since then I have wrecked twice (only one
|> was my fault).  It ate a guardrail at over 60 miles an hour, and survived.
|> I also sideswiped a Bonneville at about 20 (I wasn't looking behind me when
|> I pulled out *embarrasment*).  I have put 18,000 miles on top of the 101,000
|> that were on it when I bought it.  Except for new brake pads (safety
|> precaution) I haven't done anything to it but change the oil and beat out
|> dents.  I put 2000 miles on it in the last two weeks, 1000 in two days.  It
|> has never failed.  Show me a chevette that can say that.
|> 				W. C. White
|> 				White_W@ab.wvnet.edu
|> 
|> 			

Yeah, well most of the 10 year old Japanese cars I've seen are rolling pieces
of rust.  It's quite amazing that they even run given the condition I've seen
them in.

-- 

Eric Alter
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: kenny@osf.org (Kenneth Crudup)
Subject: Re: Lexus Commercials
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:55:16 GMT

In article <C1AKqn.M7K@acsu.buffalo.edu>
v064mb9k@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (NEIL GANDLER) writes:

>   I think Lexus commercials are so unique and successful that many
>   automakers including Chrysler with their LH commericals are doing 
>   the same.

In article <PHR.93Jan22234051@napa.telebit.com>,
phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:

>I haven't seen these commercials but ... Ford did something similar about
>15 years ago.  They had a series of ads for some luxocruiser where they
>did things like serve tea in the back seat.

I remember those. I believe it was for the LTD or Continental. The one that
sticks out in my mind was the one where they drive, via remote control, a
car with a shock-triggered bomb in the front seat over some very rough terrain.

Was that 15 yrs ago? I was a kid then.

	-Kenny

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen)
Subject: Re: Before Buying Japanese.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:22:29 GMT

In article <185087@pyramid.pyramid.com> lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell) writes:
>In article <1993Jan21.182820.796@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes:
>>Checking the 1993 Buying Guide I find . . .
>>
>>The Mazda MX-6 and Ford Probe were essentially idenitcal except for
>>the 91 model. 
>>
>    Read it a bit more carefully.  The Mazda and Probe have pretty
>    different suspension tunings.  The Mazda actually handles just
>    as well as the Probe in normal commuter style driving, but it's
>    suspension is definitely much softer.  
>
>    The Probe is calibrated more for very hard driving on very
>    SMOOTH roads...a bit like the traditional US pony car.

Sorry, I was talking about reliability, not about the cars themselves.

Anyways, this is getting off my whole point. What about HOW they rate
cars. Look at their most recent issue where they rated the Probe GT,
Talon, etc. Was it what you expect from a company only meant for
rating dishwasher detergent?

john


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From: rrm@icf.hrb.com (MURPH)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Mazda List
Date: 20 Jan 93 02:09:25 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

Anyone out there know of a Mazda mailing list? Any info would be great.
Thanks in advance.

                                    Murph
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: vince@bme.ri.ccf.org (Geoff Vince)
Subject: Exotic Car Rental in UK
Organization: Biomedical Engineering, Cleveland Clinic Foundation
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:41:44 GMT

Can anyone provide the address and/or telephone number of companies in the 
UK who rent exotic sports cars.  I am particularly interested in the likes 
of Porsche, Jaguar XJS, Ferrari, Lotus, etc.

Thanks
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