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From: summ50@cse.unl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:27:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: unlinfo.1992Sep29.212724.4779
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln

smith@ctron.com (Larry Smith) writes:

>In article <13355@texsun.Central.Sun.COM>, dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard) writes:
>>How many new RWD automobiles are still offered? There's the huge
>>GM line (Buick Roadmonster/Caprice/new Fleetwood).  Is the Crown Vic?
>>The trend seems clearly toward FWD, but don't know if that's mostly
>>fashion or not.

>I tried this once before, let's see how I do this time:

>Rear Wheel Drive _cars_ for sale in the USA, 1992:

>Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis/Lincoln Town Car
>Ford Thunderbird/Mercury Cougar
>Ford Mustang
>Buick Roadmaster/Chevy Caprice/Cadillac Brougham
>Chevy Camaro/Pontiac Firebird
>Chevy Corvette
>Dodge Viper
>Infiniti Q45
>Lexus SC300/SC400/ES400
>Acura NSX
>Toyota MR2
>Toyota Supra
>Toyota Cressida
>Mazda 929
>Mazda RX-7
>Mazda Miata

>Did I miss any this time?

	Yep.  Once again:

	Porsche 968/928/911 line
	All BMWs
	All Mercedes
	Nissan 300ZX
	Nissan 240 SX
	Ferrari 348
	Ferrari TR
	Lotus Esprit
	Lamborghini Diablo
	Vector
	Shelby Cobra (The "new" 1965 Cobra, ya know)
	
	There are probably a couple more that I can't think of right now.


>Larry Smith (smith@ctron.com)  No, I don't speak for Cabletron.  Need you ask?
>-
>How about we all do something reasonable?  I bet that'll confuse 'em!


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From: cjs33278@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Carl+Chris Samos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: I need advice on '82 and '84 Porsche 928's
Keywords: Porsche
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:31:48 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


Yesterday I looked at a 1982 928 that a guy in town is selling.  It's an
automatic with 40,000 miles, mocha brown with a tan leather interior, and
every option (power everything, sunroof,...).  It's got the original paint,
which is nearly perfect (some small marks low on the hood from road
debris).  The interior has some flaws (marks in the driver's door, a bubble
around the vent in the dash).  I drove it for about 30 minutes, and the
car runs perfectly. The only thing I noticed was a small rattle when I
would hit a bump at low speeds.  He claimed it was the calipers making
the rattle.  He's asking $13,000.  So, I am asking for any information
you may have about this car, including current value, things to look for
when I go look at it again, common problems with the car, ...

To further complicate things, I called my uncle for some advice.  He has
an '84 928s. It's also an automatic with about 40,000 miles, black with 
black leather interior.  He just recently brought it in for its 40,000
mile service.  He offered me his for $15,000.  

So, what's the better deal?  With my uncle's car, I know everything about
the car.  Plus it's two years newer.  Is $15,000 a decent price for an
'84?  

Basically, I want to absorb as much information about the cars as possible,
so if you have anything to tell me, please let me know!

Thanks in advance!!!!

-Carl Samos
 cjs33278@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: paul@eye.com (Paul B. Booth)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: rear-window defroster options?
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 14:18:34 GMT
Organization: 3D/EYE, Inc.  Ithaca, NY

Can rear-window defogger units (the orange stripes in the glass) go bad over
time?  I recently picked up a used car that will _not_ defog the back window.
Proper current is getting to the defogger grid, but the grid itself appears to
have lost it's resistance, hence it never gets warm.  I've checked carefully
for shorts or breaks in the grid and have found none.

Assuming that the grid material has somehow 'gone bad,' what are my options for
repairing/replacing the system?  Replacing the back glass is not a viable
option (back hatch on a Porsche 924Turbo -- what can I $ay?)  Can a new grid
be applied (sprayed on?), or is that lovely silver tape-on stuff my only
option?  
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: nau@ssesco.com (William Nau)
Subject: Next stop the Ford president (need address)
Organization: SSESCO
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:21:44 GMT

Ok, I may come off sounding like an ass, but I'm looking for a little 
satisfaction.  I recently purchased a car from Ford.  There have been
some problems (not with the car).  These are information based problems
that involve little or no actual dollars (not now anyway).  What
the exact problems are is not important here.  What is important is the
fact that I am unable to get anyone representing Ford to acknowledge 
the problem.  They either shoot off on anohter tangent or ignore me in
the hopes that I will go away.  I won't.  After several months of trying
to get anyone to acknowledge the problem (fix it or not, I don't care)
I'm getting irritated.  I want to bypass all of the schmucks and go
right to the top dog.  How do I find the name and address (business
address) of the president of Ford Motor Co.?  It may not do any good,
but I wanna try.
From: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Ultra-high?   Was Re:  FWD vs RWD
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:57:12 GMT
Reply-To: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com

In article <1992Oct1.171536@usho21.hou281.chevron.com>  
hhtra@usho21.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock) writes:
> 
>  
>  In article <stuart.717817096@yacht>, stuart@ee.fit.edu (William Stuart)  
writes:
> |>  Somebody may correct me, but I cannot think of one Ultra-high performance
> |>  car that is not RWD.  STOCK, that is.  Or street prepared (SCCA  
definition)
> |>  I would arbitrarily classify Ultra-high performance as 0-60 in sub 6 sec,
> |>  1/4 mi. in sub 15 sec.  High slalom speeds too.
> 
>  I wouldn't call 0-60 in sub 6 sec, 1/4 mil in sub 15 sec, and high slalom
>  speeds "Ultra-high" performance.  That just sounds like some Mustang or
>  Camaro guy bragging.  
> 
>  IMHO, it would be something like this:

You forgot one key category . . .
> 
>      Level      0-60   1/4          Examples 
>   -----------   ----   ---   ------------------------
>   Performance    <8    <16   Most Sports Models (not Sporty)
>   High           <7    <15   Mustang, Camaro, Eclipse
>   Very High      <6    <14   Vette, 300ZX, Porsches
>   Ultra High     <5    ~13   Ferraris, ZR1, Porsches 
>   Mine           <4    <12   F40  (I just have $999,999 to go) :)
    Superbikes     <3    <11   FJ1200, ZX-11, CBR1000, etc

Maximum performance for 1/2 the price of the cheapest car on this list !

Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com
From: stuart@ee.fit.edu (William Stuart)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:38:16 GMT
Organization: Florida Tech, CP/EE Dept.

In <13355@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard) writes:

>How many new RWD automobiles are still offered? There's the huge
>GM line (Buick Roadmonster/Caprice/new Fleetwood).  Is the Crown Vic?
>The trend seems clearly toward FWD, but don't know if that's mostly
>fashion or not.

  Fashion?  No.

  Bean Counters? Yes.

  The fundamental reason cars are FWD these days are because it is cheaper to
  manufacture the car, while prices remain high.  Ala higher profit margins.

  Somebody may correct me, but I cannot think of one Ultra-high performance
  car that is not RWD.  STOCK, that is.  Or street prepared (SCCA definition)
  I would arbitrarily classify Ultra-high performance as 0-60 in sub 6 sec,
  1/4 mi. in sub 15 sec.  High slalom speeds too.

  BTW, Interesting that the Daytona (right?) had to be converted to RWD for
  the IROC races... ( Flame OFF, please ;-)

 - Bill

	stuart@ee.fit.edu
From: mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Keystone Wheels
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:21:05 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

> tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen) writes:
>> mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar) writes:

>[looking for center caps]

>>Sure. You can find the center caps wherever the theives that took
>>my Keystone rims are, along with the Trans Am they were attached to.
>>
>>Seriously, though. Look in the yellow or white pages under auto parts.
>>Look for a place called "Hubcap World", or something like that. If you
>>live near a large town or city, there is sure to be one. Judging by the
>>ones I have been to, I would say that they should have some, probably at
>>a reasonable price, too.
>
>and who knows, maybe the ones Hubcap World sells him came from your
>late departed Trans Am...

I would not doubt it in the least. But then I would feel better, because 
somebody who actually gives a crap about their car would get them, so at
least it wouldn't be a total loss. 

Hope the car you put them on is a cool one...



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From: ingram@sequent.com (Bill Ingram)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: GEO METRO
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:20:34 GMT
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

In article <1992Oct6.134745.4016@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
%In article <1as2c3INN5f2@bigboote.WPI.EDU> beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller) writes:
%>	well I Saw a demolished Geo STORM in a junkie and I can
%>	say that I hope that I never get nto an accident.......
%>	
%>	but almost all cars in this price range are 'deathtraps'
%>	I dare you to name one car under $10,000 that is very
%>	safe....
%
%For $10,000, you could spend $6500 on the Metro, and the rest on, say,
%a 72 to 80 era Chevy Caprice. Fix the Caprice up, and keep the Metro
%for an ego boost (new car :-))
%
%>	from my understanding not all Geo METRO's have 3 cylinders
%>	I think that one model the XFI is the V3 with 55 mpg
%
%V3? Hmmm.
%
%>
%>	other METROS have a V4 if I am not mistaken......and get more 
%
%V4? Nope. I believe Suzuki does sell their own badged with a 4 cylinder
%engine. A really spiffy Metro was the Metro Turbo, there's a few in our
%city. I think it was made in red or white only, from 1986 to 87 or so.
%
%Spiros
%-- 
%Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
%Software Technology, Delco Electronics       striantafyll@kosds1.gm.hac.com
%GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904      [A Different Kind of Disclaimer]

 That was a Sprint Turbo, not Metro Turbo. You have the colors correct. 
 I remember seeing a 1988 mdl also. Drove one once, kick in the ass!
 Bill
From: 11telliott@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Zarathustra)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Toyota Corolla Tercel '82 for $150 SALE!
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:44:47 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

I'm selling my beloved Merry MirthMobile... Read on...
    
    I am selling my Toyota Corolla Tercel, '82 vintage, for $150 dollars,
    or best offer. Why $150? The car needs a valve job, which would cost
    around $700 dollars, and a carburetor, which would cost around $300, 
    for a total of 1,150 dollars. It depends on your skillful negiogations with
the local shops. I will sell the car to anybody willing to come over to pick it
up, and must be in the Washington, D.C. metro area. Also, send me an e-mail of
your offer, and when you would be free.
    I am selling it because I cannot afford the expenses of repairing it. 
Otherwise, the car is in an excellent condition, for the brakes were replaced, 
the timing belt was replaced, new spark plugs, a oil job, a new filter. There 
is a dent on the driver's door side, but don't worry about that, and the 
driver's side headbeam light is slightly askew, otherwise, it's OK. Hence the 
    cheeep price of $150. Also, it is automatic transmission, no power
    steering, AC okay (I haven't used it in years), and appx. under 80,000
    miles.

Todd Elliott
11TELLIOTT@GALLUA (Bitnet)
11TELLIOTT@GALLUA.GALLAUDET.EDU (Internet)
From: asdch@acad2.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: newsgroup for 4x4 trucks?
Date: 3 Oct 92 04:34:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad2.1992Oct3.003454.1
Organization: University of Alaska


	Would people be interested in a four wheel drive truck newsgroup?
I certainly would.  How does one go about creating a new newsgroup?  Dave.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: kw@c3.PLA.CA.US (Kang Wang)
Subject: How to startup a new car?
Organization: C-Cube Microsystems, San Jose, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:04:21 GMT

I just bought a new NISSAN 240SX LE. Since this is the first time I have a brand new car, I need some suggestions to startup my car. I have heard of Slick 50. Is it helpful and headthful for startup a new car? Please mail to my account. Thanx!!

kw@c3.pla.ca.us
-Kang Wang
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: tedebear@leland.Stanford.EDU (Theodore Chen)
Subject: Re: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 06:20:09 GMT

In article <5282@balrog.ctron.com> smith@ctron.com writes:
>I tried this once before, let's see how I do this time:
>
>Rear Wheel Drive _cars_ for sale in the USA, 1992:
>
>Ford Crown Victoria/Mercury Grand Marquis/Lincoln Town Car
>Ford Thunderbird/Mercury Cougar
>Ford Mustang
>Buick Roadmaster/Chevy Caprice/Cadillac Brougham
>Chevy Camaro/Pontiac Firebird
>Chevy Corvette
>Dodge Viper
>Infiniti Q45
>Lexus SC300/SC400/ES400
>Acura NSX
>Toyota MR2
>Toyota Supra
>Toyota Cressida
>Mazda 929
>Mazda RX-7
>Mazda Miata
>
>Did I miss any this time?

cadillac fleetwood.  oh wait, is that the new name for the brougham?
olds custom cruiser, if a station wagon counts.
lincoln mark VIII.
you missed one for sure.  nissan 300ZX.  how could you???
nissan 240SX.

-teddy
Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.consumers
From: Adam Quiggle <ALQ1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Rec's for used car < $13K
Nntp-Posting-User: @cornell.edu
X-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 18: 25:54 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d3
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:08:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.221037.29122@cc.gatech.edu> James Barrett,
barrett@cc.gatech.edu writes:
>car in the next 2 weeks.  We have about $12K available and have 
>decided we *really* want a convertible.  We've looked mainly at
>1990 Mazda Miata's, but also want to consider something with more
>room for luggage (Toyota Celica, VW Cabriolet, Geo Metro). 

Try a 1988-1990 Z24 Cavalier convertible.  I get reasonably good gas
mileage (26mpg on the highway) and good acceleration. (90's have a
3.1/V6, as opposed to my 2.8/V6).  The 91 Z24 went to a different body
style, that I didn't care for as much as the 88-90 Z24's.  The trunk is
huge for any convertible I've ever seen (barring the old 1950
convertibles that were monster/gas eating/machines).  I have a Sub box (2
RF Pro 10's) in the trunk, along with my CD player, and I have plenty of
room for 5-6 bags of groceries.  I can't fit a suit case in their, but if
I took out the sub box, i'm pretty sure I could squeeze one in there. 
Anyway, the back seat isn't huge, but it is big enough for two people,
unlike Camaros/Talons and so forth.  During the summer time, when the top
is down, I get at least 1-2 compliments on my car a day.  And I didn't
have to spend $12K to do it either.  I have never had anything go wrong
with my car, and the car has 70K miles on it.  And insurance is
reasonable, as opposed to say a Mustang GT convertible.  Good luck in
choosing a car...
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
From: 891078p@ace.acadiau.ca (Trevor Perkins)
Subject: Re: Pontiac Fiero problems?
Keywords: Fiero, problems
Organization: Acadia University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:32:58 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.132550.14132@bnr.ca> dclayton@bnr.ca (Don Clayton) writes:
>
>Especially if you are buying GM!  Over 60 years of building cars and they still 
>can't get it right!
>
>Don Clayton

    That's why Ford is #1 in the domestic car market !!!
     
 			-Trevor
                 ( previous owner & faithful follower of the Mustang )
                           ( '69 Grande 302 - '79 5.0L Cobra )
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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: downforce and cornering g's (was which car handles the best?
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:30:03 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


In article <BvFII3.43B@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> mshar@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Mshar) writes:
>
>I can get much more specific, but probably no one would understand it,
>or care for that matter.

I'm interested in the specifics. If you decide not to post, at least
please email me the specifics. My understanding matches yours so far,
but I'd like to know more.

Thanks!
From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:51:54 GMT
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies

In article <5282@balrog.ctron.com> smith@ctron.com writes:
>Did I miss any this time?

quite a few:

BMW (all cars)
Mercedes (all cars)
Alfa Romeo (spider)
Jaguar (all cars)

and i'm sure that there are more.

richard
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 1992 21:40:22 -0400 
From: Jyri Virkki <jyri+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Whats a Geo Metro (explained)
	<RRUSK.92Oct6163053@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com>

On 5 Oct 92 17:59:37 GMT, blu@cellar.org (Dan Reed) wrote:
> 
>A Geo, is a car comany here in the states, that sells several small, crummy, 
>magot shit box cars under the Chevy name.  The cars are made by Isusu, 
>Toyota, and Diahatsu (sp?).  All sold under the Geo name.  One such car, the 
>Geo Metro, is a small, 4 person car.  The car, is *Very* small, and sports (I 
>think) a 3 cyl. engine, and gets 56Mpg.  Needless to say, this car, does not 
>have that much power...

Actually the Geo's aren't _that_ bad. Yes, they are pathetically
underpowered, and they don't don't handle worth anything, but it could
be worse. The performance is certainly much better than cars like the
Crysler Aries (just to pick something I've had the displeasure of
driving) and so is the handling.

I wouldn't be caught dead buying one, but that's because I'm into
sporty cars. For people who only want cars for transportation and
nothing else, it's a decent car for a low price and with good economy.

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: nataraja@rtsg.mot.com (Kumaravel Natarajan)
Subject: Re: FWD vs. RWD, Which is best.
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:30:58 GMT

markg@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Mark Goldsworthy) writes:

>/ hpmwga7:rec.autos / salil@igor.tamri.com (Salil Saxena) /  2:25 pm  Sep 28, 1992 /
>In article <13355@texsun.Central.Sun.COM> dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>>
>>Additional RWD models still sold (please feel free to add to this list):

>			(list Deleted)

>>14. Mitsubishi Diamante ? 

>The Diamante is a FWD car in its base model, and AWD in the top of the line
>model.

>Mark Goldsworthy

Are you sure you're not thinking of the Galant?  I know that IT comes
in a base-FWD, and an AWD model w/ the Eclipse's 2.0l turbo engine.

Vel
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From: thatchh@hplsla.hp.com (Thatch Harvey)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Mercury Capri opinions?
Date: 24 Sep 92 18:29:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: hplsla.147520018
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA




       The report I read said that if the Miata hadn't come along to be
a high water mark, that the Capri would be a decent car.  I have seen 
ads in the paper for Capris in the $9000 range. That's a lot less money for
a fun little car.    I like the looks of them ok. I think I heard they will 
be discontinued pretty soon.  Check insurance rates before you decide.


                 Thatch Harvey
From: shiv@cs.man.ac.uk (Shiv Sikand)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: What causes popping and banging on the overrun ?
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:44:16 GMT


The subject says it all, I've been told it's a symptom of a weak
mixture...I can't seem to find any air leaks and the valve timing is spot
on, could it be a badly seating exhaust valve ?

The car is an Alfa 33, single carb 1500.


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From: chohan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harpal Chohan)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech,rec.autos.driving
Subject: Yoko. AVS U+4s
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:30:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.1992Sep29.163050.422
Followup-To: rec.autos
Organization: The Ohio State University

Anyone have general comments about the Yoko AVS U+4? Experiences,
how they feel and handle under different conditions, how they ride,
limitations, whatever? I'm thinking of ordering them and am open
to any comments and experiences form folks who have used them.

Thanks...

-h