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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:32:28 EDT
From: Howard E. Hill-Esbrand <HH9679A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
 <1992Oct8.144343.901@walter.bellcore.com>

Spin can be negated by any No 11 batsman by simply padding the
ball away. Notice the top teams in the world concentrate on the
Quick stuff e.g Pakistan (Akram,Waqar Younis,Aqib Javed and the
recently retired Imran), West Indies(Bishop, Ambrose,Walsh,Patterson).
From: sl57h@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re:test
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:59:15 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

this is a test too.


Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 04:26:33 GMT



|> 
|> Especially during the Lloyd era, selections were made on merit and the team
|> picked itself, so their was no need for any public confrontation with captain
|> and selectors.  Of late the selectors seem to be getting senile..
|> 

Thats true and why, because of LLOYD. Lloyd stated that before he became captain
there was alot of regionalism among the different islands. Every island had more
or less a quota. His gives one example of D>esmond Haynes not being selected 
initially inspite of good performances.

sahibzada rafay khan[]
From: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell,G2,3123,homephone)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Six sixers in the same over!
Date: 10 Oct 92 11:41:02 GMT
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

In article 26391@cc.uow.edu.au, g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes:
> hiranya@leland.stanford.edu (Pratheep Balasingam) writes:
> 
> 
> >I recall that Gary Sobers, and Frank Heyes both managed to hit
> >six sixers in the same over off the same bowler : Malcolm Nash.
> >Is this correct, or am I imagining this? Please clarify. Also
> >I think Ravi Shastri too has hit six sixers in the same over
> >in a first-class match. Are there any other such instances? 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Ravi shashtri hit six sixers in Ranjit Trophy(First Class Match).
> 
> 
> I don't have any idea who was the bowler.
> 
> 
> Bye
> Adil

Sir Garfield hit 6 6's in one over of Malcolm Nash in 68. Frank Hayes
hit 5 6's and 1 4 off an over from Nash in early/mid 70's.
Shastri hit 6 6's off Tilak Raj in 84/5 in Ranji Trophy.

A couple of years ago a ridiculous number of runs were scored off an over
in NZ although this was *deliberate* to force a declaration or something,
lots of no balls in over. Any kiwi's got more details?

tony bell                 ! keep on running   live long and prosper
serc daresbury laboratory ! "back off man, i'm a scientist"
atb@uk.ac.dl.gserv1       ! bill murray - ghostbusters
From: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: World rankings
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:43:19 GMT
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK


After the discussions about whether Pakistans losses to England in the
ODI's this summer still make them World champs I present my current
world rankings of the 9 test playing nations, this is for all
international cricket.

1. PAKISTAN

Won World Cup, beat England in England. Very exciting team, if they
can find another Imran they could be unbeatable for the next 10 years.

2. ENGLAND

OK I'm biased but we just lost out in this summers test series and 
ran out of steam in the world cup. A very professional team, I predict
that we'll beat Australia next summer, we might struggle a bit after
Gooch retires though.

3. WEST INDIES

The fast bowling is as devastating as ever but the batting is a bit brittle.
Will improve to challenge Pakistan once a new post Lloyd/Richards team 
is built.

4. AUSTRALIA

Border's magnificent team in England of 3 years ago are getting a bit
long in the tooth. I think its time for AB to retire with dignity before
he gets sacked, I bet he hangs on for next summer though. The series
in Sri Lanka showed the shortcomings of the current team.

5. NEW ZEALAND

England thrashed them last winter but NZ did well (on home soil) in the
world cup. They are missing the great Sir Richard Hadlee, like England
they depend a lot on their captain.

6. INDIA

They have some of the best batsmen in the world (Tendulkar, Azharuddin)
but are very weak in bowling, Kapil has carried the bowling for years and
is showing his age. If they can find some more good spinners they could
improve.

7. SOUTH AFRICA

Did suprisingly well in the world cup but lack of experience showed
against the West Indies in their recent one off test. Will improve
a lot over the next few years as they get the hang of the international
game.

8. SRI LANKA

Similar to their Northern neighbours in having good batsmen and
weak bowlers. They are also short of international cricket but
showed hopeful signs for the future against the Australians.

9. ZIMBABWE.

I put them at the bottom as they've done very little in international
cricket so far. They will be easy pickings in test cricket for a few
years until they get to know the ropes. It would be good for world
cricket if Mr. Hick were to go back home and play for them (it would
improve the England team as well :-) )

I'm sure I've offended just about everyone with these rankings :-) :-)

what do you think folks?

tony bell                 ! keep on running   live long and prosper
serc daresbury laboratory ! "back off man, i'm a scientist"
atb@uk.ac.dl.gserv1       ! bill murray - ghostbusters
From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:26:05 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Oct16.000153.11430@waikato.ac.nz>, sma@waikato.ac.nz (Stephen Anderson) writes:
>> That's comparing chalk and cheese.  Thompson was just as feared as Lillee in
>> his heyday, and was a wicket taker and a nasty bowler.  As I type this I'm
>> rolling around in laughter at my teminal.  Thanks for the comic relief! 
>> Thompson/Lillee comp. to Hadlee/Chatfield..
> I think you missed the point.  Thommo was faster than Lillie, and tended to
> bounce the ball up into the ribcage.  Hence batsmen tended to relax a little
> against Lillie, forgetting that he had the full armoury to be even more deadly
> than Thompson.  So Lillie took a number of Wickets because Thommo was at the
> other end.

I must be, since the analog to this is batsmen find Chatfield dangerous, hance
they relax against Hadlee who picks up the wickets.  I'm sorry, I don't buy
this argument.

Back to the thesis
> 
> 
> Stephen..
From: pmc5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Paul M Corballis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Best batting, bowling, and fielding sides
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:59:20 GMT
Reply-To: pmc5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Paul M Corballis)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <5bc5fd818.0038d91@mrsdash.engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>Abbas Mustafa writes:
>
>The following are my opinions, and i believe are not very far from
>reality.
>        BEST BATTING SIDE:
>        There is hardly any doubt that india has the best batting lineup
>atleast on paper and based on individual performances. SRT, Azhar,
>manjrekar, and shastri in this order is the backbone of indian batting.
>
>_________________________________________________________________________
>
>    Well chosen words, I must say. Given the fact that the Indian team lost
>it's last four (?) series (OK, they were all overseas) I must say that this
>much vaunted batting line-up will remain just that - paper tigers.
>  Here's my analysis (for whatever it's worth) of the various batting lineups:
>  Australia - (used to be soooo consistent but now looks as if all of them save
>                AB have decided to take a looooong vacation)
> West Indies - (very brittle , home and away)
> Pakistan - (ditto, a lot better at home though)
> India - (brittle, if their bowling did a little more it would look a little
>           more decent)
> England - (susceptible to a good bowling side, else reasonably consistent)
>Sri Lanka - (talent galore that has never materialized)
>New Zealand - (who?)

Crowe, Andrew Jones, Greatbatch, Wright (still).  Who indeed?

>SA, Zim - (insufficient data)
>
>
>Sudhama

Cheers, Paul
From: sma@waikato.ac.nz (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Bock vs. Bracewell (spinners)
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:29:22 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <Bvs239.780@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, John.Mcmullan@comp.vuw.ac.nz (John Michael McMullan) writes:
> 
> There is one thing that even v.good spinners (aside, perhaps from those
> originating in the sub-continent) have all had to do to hold a place in their
> country's cricket team and that is to bat at least reasonably well. Thus the
> reason that Bracewell held a place in the NZ side for years ahead of Stephen
> Bock. Bracwell was a very good batsman and by the end of his career a very
> good off-spin bowler. In fact why isn't he mentioned up there with Quadir in
> competition for a place in this "World XI - 80s" team?

As far as I was aware Boock stopped getting picked because he declared himself
unavailable for overseas tours.
There is no more necessity for spinners to bat well that for seamers to bat
well, although Bracewell's batting, along with his pugnacious attitude, was a
definite bonus.  But his bowling was decidedly eratic.  Sometimes his form made
him far and away the worlds best off-spin bowler, while at other times he
wouldn't have even been in the squad if it weren't for his batting.


Stephen..
From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Sobers on batting
Date: 10 Oct 92 14:02:09 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <98156@bu.edu>, rehman@math.bu.edu (Naved Rehman) writes:
> 
> 	is it true?

What is true?  the article?  Yes unless the sports editor is fantasising.
From: tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: The Sri Lankan captain (Re: Misc News....)
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:59:35 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <1bnd33INN3kq@skat.usc.edu> ynesiah@skat.usc.edu (Yogala Nesiah) writes:

>Arjuna has been selected to lead the Lankans against the visiting 

And why is/was Ranatunga reinstated as captain ? Wasn't De Silva doing
a good job ? I thought Ranatunga was sacked because he was not a team-man
& took some ridiculously conservative decisions in New Zealand some time
ago. Has he changed all-on-a-sudden ?

Mahesh.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 08:52:39 EDT
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Tragedy: B.S. Chandrashekhar
Distribution: world
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In article <ld8sdlINNr0n@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, atul@hunnoo.Eng.Sun.COM (Atool
CupAddYeah x65042) says:
>
>Boy, you really aced "Numbers" in kindergarten.
>
> [etc]
>
here's something for you:

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.....because its painfully obvious that you haven't one.

Stay cool,
The Thinker

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From: s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Mark Smith)
Subject: MM Cup Qls V SA
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:08:49 GMT

SA made 158 for 8 off 50 overs
(some scores Blewitt 0,Bishop 63,Nielsen 34, Mcdermott 2-12 off 10 (a damn
good spell, look out Windies) Kasprowicz 2-17 off 10 Rackemann 0-52 off 10)

Qld made 2 for 159 off 43.4
(Hayden 73*, Goggin 60 nothing exciting about the SA bowling (whats new!))

Qld by 8 wickets with 6.2 overs left.

Some notes from the weekends matches
Marsh has an injured finger and will be out for a while,
Jones has a similr injury but will play in the Vics next game.

Some sort of a ladder:
WA  4 from 2
Qld 2 from 1
NSW 0 from 1
SA  0 from 1
Vic 0 from 1
Tas - from 0

+------------------------------------+
|  Mark Smith.                       |
|  <s1172217@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au> |
|  Churchill, Victoria, Australia.   |
|  Monash Uni Gippsland Computing    |
+------------------------------------+

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From: aitken@cs.cornell.edu (William E. Aitken)
Subject: Re: Six sixers in the same over!
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:12:47 GMT

>
>A couple of years ago a ridiculous number of runs were scored off an over
>in NZ although this was *deliberate* to force a declaration or something,
>lots of no balls in over. Any kiwi's got more details?
>
	Not a Kiwi, but I guess I have details.  

At Lancaster Park, Christchurch. February 18,19,20, 1990.  Wellington
202 & 309/6 dec, Canterbury, 221/7 dec and 290/8.  Match drawn.

Near the end of the third day, in order to narrow the 94-run gap
between the two sides, in the hopes of then capturing the last two 
wickets to win the match, Wellington capatain Erwin McSweeney
told his bowlers to deliberately no-ball.  The penultimate
over, bowled by Robert Vance lasted 22 balls,  and conceded 77 runs
(1444664614116666600401) 69 of which cam from the bat of Canterbury
wicket keeper Lee Germon.  In the event, the tactic almost backfired
since the final over by Evan Gray yielded a further 19 runs, without 
taking a wicket, to leave the scores level at the close.

					---- Bill.

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From: ias@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Irfan Shahmiri)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Cricket in Gainesville (Florida)
Date: 11 Oct 92 06:29:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.


Hi folks,
Interested in playing cricket in Gainesville, Florida. We, here at the University of Florida, have been playing cricket very regularly for the past few years. We have a pretty decent side and have played matches in Jacksonville ,  Orlando, Sarasota and Ocala with 100 percent win record.
Recently we perpared a matting wicket and hence are now in a position of hosting
games here at UF. 
Teams in the  neighbourhood interested in playing cricket should contact me or Adarsh (President of the Gator Cricket Club)  at the following addresses. 

--irfan

Adarsh (President)				 Irfan (Captain)
aph@cis.ufl.edu					 ias@reef.cis.ufl.edu
ph:904-392-1491(o)				 ph:904-392-4767(o)
  :904-372-3195(R)				   :904-373-6961(r)

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From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: Australian cricket season starts ......
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 06:39:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.032838.18523@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:
>The cricket season in Australia has started.
>
>Next month Australia will be playing 5 tests against the
>test cricket world champions WEST INDIES.

Test cricket world champions, did i see right or did you mean to write 
" ex cricket world champions". I have always been a fan of the west indies
but to call them world champions in there present from is a joke. After nearly
losing to south africa and there previous tour against the english, NOT!.

Though this may seem baised, Pakistan though already "world champions in 
one day cricket" may also lay calims to be "test cricket world champions"
and if no than atleast the "Most Unpredictable Exciting Coming from 
near cricket team in the World" ( just like montana's 49er's, for you American
football fans)


 The Windies will
>be touring. Australia will also be playing in the Bension and
>Hedges World Series (One day Internationals) with the test
>cricket worlds champs and the one day world champs (Pakistan).
>
>I hope the Aussies prove their cricketing power once again.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Ramkumar
>
>-- 
>--------------------------------------------------------
>   V.R.KUMAR, Knowledge-Based Systems Program
>   CSIRO Division of Information Technology                         
>   6 Giffnock Avenue, North Ryde, NSW 2113, Australia
From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: NZ Tour to Zimbabwae
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:19:12 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: eco.economics.adelaide.edu.au

In article <Bw4voy.7xB@comp.vuw.ac.nz>, John.Mcmullan@comp.vuw.ac.nz (John Michael McMullan) writes:

> Further to my last post NZ is touring Zimbabwae NOT SriLanka. They'll be
> playing two tests. The international/neutral umpire for the two tests will be
> none other than T.C. Dickie Bird himself.

We've had news over here in Australia that Dickie Bird will become the first
ever individually sponsored umpire when he goes to Zimbabwe.
Some company is sponsoring him by providing accomadation, plane trips etc,
while Dickie Bird will be wearing the company's logo on his umpire's coat.

This could pave the way for future neutral umpiring as one of the major factors
which was said to be restricting the use of neutral umpires was the great cost
that would be involved and the lack of sponsorship money available.

--
Daniel.
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From: sgs@ucs.usl.edu (Sudhindranath SG)
Subject: Re: Six sixes in an over
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:30:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.070625.21723@news.Hawaii.Edu> annadata@nada.ics.Hawaii.Edu (Anil Annadata) writes:
>

>The two cricketers who hit six sixers in an over were
>Ravi Shatri and Gary Sobers.
      ^^^^^^

      SHASTRI.

>The unfortunate bowlers were Tilak Raj ( an unknown bowler in India)
>and Malcom Nalsh.
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^

     MALCOLM NASH. (Hope I got it right!)
>

BTW, I would like to know the state of the match when Shastri
hit those six sixes. Was it heading towards a boring draw
as is usually the case in India ? 

Also, what was Shastri's individual score then ? Probably he had 
already passed the three-figure mark and therefore had nothing to
lose! I can take a bet that Shastri's flurry of sixes would have 
had _nothing_ to do with the team's needs...

Regards,

--Sudhi.

-- 
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email : sudhi@usl.edu, sgs@ucs.usl.edu
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email : sudhi@usl.edu, sgs@ucs.usl.edu
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From: ynesiah@skat.usc.edu (Yogala Nesiah)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: World rankings
Date: 16 Oct 1992 08:38:28 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

In article <1992Oct14.073931.24718@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> telsor@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert Morieson) writes:

>Towards the end of the Sri Lanka tour, Dean Jones, In his regular column
>in the 'Sunday Age' newspaper, said that most of the Australian team
>considered Sri Lanka to have a better team than India.

I think DEAN JONES should be declared CAPTAIN-FOR-LIFE of the Australian
team. :->

Better yet, SECRETARY GENERAL OF THE UNITED NATIONS!

Short-Square-Leg
From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Ranking of teams/players
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:22:06 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <Bw8K6A.7w2@comp.vuw.ac.nz> John.Mcmullan@comp.vuw.ac.nz (John Michael McMullan) writes:
>
>A lot of hassles and flaming could probably be avoided if when people stick
>up lists of who they think are the greatest/most mediocre/worst, a time frame
>was included in the ranking.
>
>ie. Australia were the best one day side in the world before the world cup.


Zimbabwe are the best one day team in the world today.  Too bad they
played India one day too soon, and tommorrow they go back to bieng #9.

j n a
From: brendan@cs.uq.oz.au (Brendan Mahony)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Australian cricket season starts ......
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:33:58 GMT
Reply-To: brendan@cs.uq.oz.au


Just adding my concurrence that Pakistan are World Cup champs until the
next tournament comes around!

However, there is little doubt that Australia will retain their WSC
title this season :-).

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When wild geese in flight take the form of a letter V, you say instinct.
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Subject: Bock vs. Bracewell (spinners)
From: John.Mcmullan@comp.vuw.ac.nz (John Michael McMullan)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:45:08 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.


There is one thing that even v.good spinners (aside, perhaps from those
originating in the sub-continent) have all had to do to hold a place in their
country's cricket team and that is to bat at least reasonably well. Thus the
reason that Bracewell held a place in the NZ side for years ahead of Stephen
Bock. Bracwell was a very good batsman and by the end of his career a very
good off-spin bowler. In fact why isn't he mentioned up there with Quadir in
competition for a place in this "World XI - 80s" team?
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:44:48 EDT
From: Howard E. Hill-Esbrand <HH9679A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Sobers on batting
 <92282.085748SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>

Sobers is not involved with the selection of the team for
several reasons 1) He is not a part of the upper echelon of
the Barbados Cricket  Association which is a spring board to
being part of the West Indies Cricket Board of Control.2) He
spends a great amount of time in Australia( At one time he
was or probably still married to an Aussie) 3) Great players
do not always make good captains or administrators.