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From: HDW@UCSVAX (H D WALDEN)
Subject: Re: Luke's lightsaber
Organization: UNIVERSITY OF MASSACHUSETTS - AMHERST
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:02:40 GMT
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> 
> >Okay, how about if you held his head in the swamp?  I bet he'd lose
> >concentration THEN!
 
> Ok, if you somehow got Yoda to drown, then yes, he would loose his 
> concentration.  And you'd be better than a Jedi Master.  Better not
> ask him who the 'Master' is when you pull his head up, though. Yoda
> has reached the final level.  (only 1 in 100 will get this reference)



	I must be 1 in 100---I used to LOVE "The Last Dragon" when I was 
younger.


				-"There will be no one to stop us this time!"
					( I'm back!)
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Saturday, 21 Nov 1992 14:32:09 EST
From: Nicholas C. Hester <IA80024@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: The Sith

In article <By1rnF.6EI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve
Stelter) says:
>
>>Can someone plese tell what the hell is "the sith"?
>
>As far as I know, exactly what the Sith is has never been revealed.
>My personal theory is that it's an archaic term for the Dark Side
>of the Force.

Couldn't it be the name of a/the cult of the emporer?  And Vader is
a dark lord, dark used in a way as to mean high(er/est) in rank, while
lord is a title perhaps used in a quasi-Noble/General.

Comments?
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ia80024@Maine.bitnet
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From: craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin)
Subject: Re: Topps SW cards and SW fans
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:23:15 GMT

>> Until I started reading this news group, my interest in Star Wars had
>> started fading.  But this group has really brought out the 'fan' in
>> me again.  Thanks.				Ron  

>Have any of you lost... and renewed your love of Star Wars?

   I can't say I ever LOST my love of Star Wars, but within the past
year, It has increased quite a bit.  This is due to a number of things:
   1) this newsgroup
   2) finding a handful of SW cards in a local shop
   3) new merchandise (Dark Empire, Zahn books, etc.)
   4) a friend who got me into collecting (and sold me a pile
      of stuff rather cheaply)

Vive les Guerres des Etoiles!!!


-- 

Craig Coffin          |  "Try not.  Do, or do not.  There is no try."
craig@odie.cs.mun.ca  |       -- Yoda, TESB
From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Young Indy Cancelled
Date: 21 Nov 1992 16:34:29 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <1eki1cINNqt2@bigboote.WPI.EDU> boisvert@wpi.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert) writes:
>	Friday's (11/20) Boston Globe, in the TV/Radio section, has an
>article about several newly cancelled series and mentions that ABC has
>"canned" The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles.  So, it looks like Lucas
>may be able to start on SW I-III sooner than expected  . . .

	ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  It's
difficult to believe how stupid the people at ABC can be.  Hopefully Paramount
will do something with the episodes that have already been shot (release them
on tape, syndicate them with DS9 & Untouchables, SOMETHING).  Although this
does give Lucas some free time...

							-Jay
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 23:04:33 EST
From: Young Indy <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Young Indy Cancelled
 <92326.175133GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> <92326.183043EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
 <92326.190933GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>

In article <92326.190933GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>, <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>These programs (at least the ones I viewed) were NOT written with
>intelligence.
> I suppose Lucas would have to take responsibility
>f
>or those contrived "historical figure guest appearances" though.  I certainly
>hope you don't think of Lucas's pair of trilogies as the "mindless action" you
>refer to in your post.  Lucas has produced this sort of garbage before (e.g.
>Howard the (lame) Duck) but the Star Wars and Indiana Jones movies are *not*
>it!
>                                          ------Eric Sansoni

    First off, the YIJC WERE written with intelligence. The show required more
knowledge and/or close following of the plot than did any of the Indy movies,
(Not to say I don't like the Indy movies, they are awesome.) thus viewers were
called upon to put a little more into "watching" TV. I feel it was George's
intent to expose people to some history while having a little twist with ol'
Indy. He also intended to have a complete CD-I (interactive system) program up
and running about Young Indy as a complete learning experience. Like I said
before, it looks as if ol' George was let down. I think he actually thought
the public would be willing to learn something from all this.
    No, I guess I can't go to extremes and call ANYTHING George has done
"mindless action," but compared to the Indy movies, YIJC was missing some
action, which lured viewers. (Though some of those war scenes were very in-
tense...)
    If you're comparing YIJC to Howard the Duck, I can understand why you
didn't follow Young Indy. They are two different styles of productions. I don't
 even want to get into comparing the two, it's so obvious.

    What I'm getting at is the following: George finally had a good thing
going with an intense series. It seemed he was getting out of his slump
after the Twilight Zone mishap and back onto life when suddenly, the earth
fell out from underneath him again. I was engrossed in YIJC while at the same
time cherishing the thought that Lucas was gearing up for something big, mainly
 Star Wars. I just hope he had enough warming up.
    Please don't get me wrong, I grew up with Star Wars and Indy, my life sorta
revolves around them, (after of course the Divine.) I am just upset to see
a quality program get crushed so bad. Oh well, at least I have copies of
the YIJC, and the MacGregor books...young Indy WILL live on.

                                     -Ed

   ====================================================================
               Edwin 'Big Ed' Weiland - EMW107@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
              Architectural Engineering; Penn State University
        "If it's not available in letterbox, it's not worth buying."
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From: wggray@rodan.acs.syr.edu (William G. Gray)
Subject: Re: The Next SW Film will not be out soon!!!
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 09:00:01 EST

In article <1992Nov23.055753.5868@nic.funet.fi> tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen) writes:
>In article <1ep9ulINNcib@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>>
>>I've already made $10 (I consider it money in the pocket) by betting
>>someone that the next SW film will not be out in '93. Anyone else?
>>
>Hey ho, it is not your money... Star Wars - The Next Movie will be out
>in '93 and you'll lose that $10 to me. Believe me, it's true :-)
>
>--
>Tapio Keihanen - tapio@nic.funet.fi \ / "Never look back, never turn!"
>                - k135528@cc.tut.fi / \        -Ronnie James Dio, 1981

	You have GOT to be kidding! What are you basing your information
	on? I sure hope it isn't because the Zahn books happen to be out
	(not that I don't like 'em)...
	--Wild Bill
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:09:13 EST
From: <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: STAR WARS MUSIC
Distribution: world
 <8572@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>   <12NOV92162533@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu>
 <1992Nov16.123217.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>

I know for a fact (I used to own them) that GNR's Use Your Illusion I and II
CD's were exactly 76:06 and 75:59 long, respectively (I think, I might get
the times out of order...), and that the Two Rooms Elton John tribute CD was
easily pushing 79mins when I listened to it once (I don't own it, nor do I
know an exact time...)

Slainte mhath,

Mike
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From: n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu (brian h. harper)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Red Tails
Date: 22 Nov 92 08:35:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Nov22.083545.19229
Organization: Western Washington University

rr2y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ryan E. Rasmussen) writes:

>Does anyone know anything about Red Tails?  This is supposedly Lucas'
>next project after Young Indy (which we know has been cancelled by ABC),
>and is about a black fighter pilot squadron in World War II.  I first
>heard of it about a year-and-a-half ago but have since heard nothing. 
>Perhaps Red Tails is a cover for episode I, a la Blue Harvest.

That's what I thought when I first heard Red Tails mentioned a year and a
half ago. Now I'm not so sure. He was supposedly making this movie BEFORE
Young Indiana was mentioned. Back before he confirmed that he would be
making more SW films. Anyone have any more recent info? Back then I guessed
that the first film would be released summer '93 (after the final Zahn
book), but this seems highly unlikely. Would live some new info on Red
Tails.


-Brian Harper

>Ryan Rasmussen
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:13:31 EST
From: <MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: The Next SW Film will not be out soon!!!



In article <1992Nov23.055753.5868@nic.funet.fi>, tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio
Keih{nen) says:
>
>In article <1ep9ulINNcib@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
>writes:
>>
>>I've already made $10 (I consider it money in the pocket) by betting
>>someone that the next SW film will not be out in '93. Anyone else?
>>
>Hey ho, it is not your money... Star Wars - The Next Movie will be out
>in '93 and you'll lose that $10 to me. Believe me, it's true :-)

If I had any money, I'd put it on a movie in the Spring... there is too much
cicumstancial evidence:

Red Tails/ Blue Harvest
Cancelling of Young Indy
Disappearance of Joe Johnston after _The Rocketeer_
that Canadian TV show that someone mentioned the other day...

>
>--
>Tapio Keihanen - tapio@nic.funet.fi \ / "Never look back, never turn!"
>                - k135528@cc.tut.fi / \        -Ronnie James Dio, 1981

Slainte mhath,

Mike
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From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (Dark Lord of the Sith)
Subject: Re: Topps SW cards and SW fans
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:19:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.125535.13184@anasazi.com>, rickard@anasazi.com (Ronald J. Rickard Jr) writes:
> 
> Speaking of Topps trading cards, has anyone ever put all 330 cards from the 
> first movie in a chronological order as seen in the movie?

    Yeah, I tried that once with my OPC Empire cards. Nice of them to put the
first series in chronological order (loved the McQuarrie art cards)

> card #207 (I think) of the fourth series which has
> a picture of C3PO.  One version of the card has a metal (?) projection
> just behind C3PO in just a way that it looks like C3PO has a penis!

I am looking at the OPC card #141. It is the same as Topps #207. I think you
have a VERY unhealthy imigination!

> Out of the all the cards, I must admit I like the red (second) series
> the best.  It contains many scenes the other series have overlooked and
> just has the feel of the movie presented in it the best.  What does
> everyone else think.

Red Series is really fun. Lots of new photos.

> Finally, just to start a thread, if you have made it this far in the
> post, how about writing what your favorite card is and why.  To 
> start it off, I like the picture in the fifth series (cannot
> remember the card number), which shows a group of stormtroopers on the
> Death Star and the lead one being blasted by Solo!  A nifty 
> scene if you ask me.

Card #24, blue series. Dewey the Dewback is still the BEST!
 
> Until I started reading this news group, my interest in Star Wars had
> started fading.  But this group has really brought out the 'fan' in
> me again.  Thanks.				Ron  

Lost interest in Star Wars just after Return of the Jedi (first saw Star Wars
when I was 8). Then the 80's hit and the Stallone Rocky/Rambo action movies
hit the theatres. Bronson came back for a couple more Death Wishes. The 
A-Team (with Dirk "Starbuck" Benedict) hit the small screen. And Dirty Harry
said "Go ahead, make my day". Couple years after ROTJ I got rid of all the
toys and stuff (I thought I "grew up"). About three years ago I became a
Trekkie after going nuts over several good seasons of reruns of ST:TNG.
Then when I got tired of Picard, I thought about the original violent SW-
ripoff - Battlestar Galactica - and renewed my interest after picking up
the Marvel adaptations of the first episodes.
      Finally, this summer I found my box of O-Pee-Chee Star Wars trilogy
cards which I thought I threw out. Later I read the Zahn books, bought the DH
comic and bought the VHS tapes - and relived the magic
that I thought I had lost when I threw out the toys and stuff.

Have any of you lost... and renewed your love of Star Wars? (Stop--- NEW
THREAD)


-- 

John P. LaRocque
vader@uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario


"Urk..urk..."
"Apologies accepted, Captain Nida", Darth Vader
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: gmclain@lonestar.utsa.edu (Glenn A. Mclain)
Subject: Re: SW dialogue question?
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:34:30 GMT

In article <Bxtuzp.ApH@news.cso.uiuc.edu> Mark Shaw <mshaw@uiuc.edu> writes:
>When Moff Tarkin is forcing Leia to divulge the location of the hidden
>rebel base right before they blow up Alderan, the line goes something
>like this:
>
>MT: For the last time, where is the rebel base.
>PL: Dantooine.  They're on Dantooine.
>MT: There.  You see, Lord Vader.  Continue with the operation, you may
>fire when ready.

should be MT: You see, Lord Vader.  She can reasonable........


>PL: What?!?
>MT: You're far to (word in question - Trusty?).  We will deal with your
>rebel friends soon enough.
>
>So, does anyone have an idea what that word is?  Trusty is a word, but it
>means trustworthy and dependable and this makes no sense at all if they
>didn't trust her.  Please email me responses.

I believe he says "You're far to trust", indicating that he wouldn't trust
her as far as he could throw her.

Glenn..........

-- 
Glenn McLain, Vice President Data Information Systems Klub(DISK)
University of Texas at San Antonio
College of Business Student Microcomputer Lab
HB 3.01.04  (512)691-4586
From: v114qgu3@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Charles T Lau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Indy Newsgroup?
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Seeing as how there seems to be some interest in Indy in this newsgroup,
I was wondering if there was an Indy newsgroup, and if not, is there enough
interest out there to start one?  Personally, I'd really like to see one.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:35:56 -0500 
From: "David D. Schwartz" <ds7n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Star Wars movies coming out?


Pardon my naiveness, but could someone tell me if there are to be
sequels coming out within the next year or so?  I heard some rumors
recently that Timothy Zahn's stories were considered the official
continuation of the saga and would thus be made into films.  What about
the three stories prior to Star Wars?  Anything planned there?  Any
information would be appreciated.

-Dave
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: SW:RPG Stupid Rebel Tricks
From: petra@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 21 Nov 92 15:52:37 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

Ok, this was the situation...

Our party was trapped at the end of a corridor that fortunately ended at a 
turbolift.  We were about to be crushed by a monstrous droid, so obviously we 
wanted to escape in the lift.  Not wanting to waste any time, my character, an 
Ewok, starts playing with the door controls, hoping the doors will open before
the lift arrives, so we can jump in as soon as the lift arrives.  I make my 
security roll, and what do you know?, the doors open. Guess who forgot that the 
lift hadn't arrived yet, and stepped out into nothing?  We had one hurtin' Ewok
on our hands for the rest of the adventure.

Later, 

Donavan
"I jump into the lift.  NO WAIT!!!! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
From: nnhill@david.wheaton.edu (Nathan N Hill)
Subject: Re: Topps Star Wars Cards
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:00:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.121517.9252@cs.mun.ca> craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin) writes:
>rickard@anasazi.com (Ronald J. Rickard Jr) writes:
>>Finally, just to start a thread, if you have made it this far in the
>>post, how about writing what your favorite card is and why.  To 
>>start it off, I like the picture in the fifth series (cannot
>>remember the card number), which shows a group of stormtroopers on the
>>Death Star and the lead one being blasted by Solo!  A nifty 
>>scene if you ask me.
>
>   My vote would have to go to the Ralph McQuarrie "Space Paintings" cards
>from the ESB series (series 1, I believe).

	My vote goes to the red ESB card called "Rattled by the Enemy."
It's got a huge explosion on it in the middle of the rebel trenches. I used to
have three of it...but somewhere along the line, I lost all my duplicates!
I don't know how they disappeared...is a stack of cards too small to have a
cloaking device?

							local Star Wars guru
______________________________________________________________________________

"You bet your asteroid." --Ham Salad

					Nathan Hill (nnhill@david.wheaton.edu)
______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin)
Subject: AT-AT's (Was: Re: Luke's lightsaber)
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:51:09 GMT

Re: Armor on AT-AT's

>Surely the armor has weak points.  A blaster might even be able to get through
>if used at close enough range (or with accurate enough range).  Remeber,
>it is the ARMOR that is tough.  I don't remember anything about a field.
>However, the Snowspeeders are able to penetrate the armor when they are
>able to get a good enough shot off (remember when the AT-AT was toppled, and
>they shot at the neck?  Of course, the neck was probably a weak spot and
>that is why it was protected by the AT-AT's own weapons, or perhaps when it
>fell down, it cracked open the armor).

   What's amusing to note is that although "that armor's too strong for
blasters", it begins to fall apart as the AT-AT is falling to the ground.
Maybe someone should donate some Krazy Glue to ILM's model department.  :-)

-- 

Craig Coffin          |  "Try not.  Do, or do not.  There is no try."
craig@odie.cs.mun.ca  |       -- Yoda, TESB

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin)
Subject: Re: Alternate SW characters....
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:27:20 GMT

>Bart Simpson as Luke:  Vader:"I am your father Luke."
>                       Luke:"Yeah, right."
>
>                       The Emperor:"Take your father's place at my side."
>                       Luke:"Eat my shorts, dude."
>Homer Simpson as The Emperor:"Luke!"

Homer Simpson as Vader:

   Vader: "I see you have constructed a new lightsaber.
           Mmmm.....lightsaber...."

         ---//---

   Officer:  "Com-scan has detected an energy field around a planet of
              the Hoth System.  The shield is strong enough to prevent
              any bombardment."
   Vader:     "D'oh!!!"

         ---//---

   Vader:  "Join me,<blah, blah>"
   Luke:   "I'll never join you!"
   Vader:  "Why you little...!"

:-)

-- 

Craig Coffin          |  "Try not.  Do, or do not.  There is no try."
craig@odie.cs.mun.ca  |       -- Yoda, TESB

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK)
Subject: Re: New Star Wars actor.
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:26:07 GMT

Well, I'm afraid I might've been responsible for that rumor (I hope to God it's
just a rumor!).  Y'see, a couple weeks ago, I posted something (maybe here, 
maybe another group) that said that is one little brat I would definitely _not_
want to see in any of the movies, esp. as a young Luke.  Although I have to 
admit he was ok in Uncle Buck (before he got the swollen head), but now I can't
stand the kid!  I'm glad to see everyone (so far) agrees...  Hopefully, if all
of the people who really like Star Wars hate him this much, they won't even
consider him.
I've got a good idea--don't spread the rumor!  We don't want to give anyone 
ideas that might come true...

In <1992Nov20.172502.18736@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson is not) writes:

>keith@cco.caltech.edu  writes:
>> 
>> 
>> There were NO children in the Star Wars movies thus far, so I don't expect
>> any in the future either (or course, Caulkin could've played an Ewok kid
>> or something).  Besides, Caulkin will soon be of the age where actors
>> shouldn't be seen... remember what happened to Ricky Schroeder?
>> 
>> 

>Some of us would say he's already reached that point.

Yeah, ever since after Uncle Buck.

>The local six-plex has THREE SCREENS for Home Alone 2. 

That is sick!

>AAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGHGHGHGHHHH!!!!!!!!

I agree completely.


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