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From: brooks@mcnc.org (Ted Brooks)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: She's been around the block a few times
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:45:54 GMT
Organization: MCNC Center for Microelectronics, RTP, NC

In article <92257.184917WJT101@psuvm.psu.edu> WJT101@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Hello.  I was wondering to what extent the number of previous owners a
>        car has had, effects its value.
>
IMHO, it's just a uniqueness feature. Obviously, that can't truthfully be said
for most 30 year old cars. Presumeably, but not neccesarily, a 1 or 2 owner car
would have been prized by the owner, and cared for appropriately. The common 
logic is few owners=good care, many owners=abused, neglected, and dumped on an
unsuspecting buyer.  Possibly, but not neccesarily. 
>
>For instance,is a "2 owner" 1960 Cadillac worth more than a
>           similar "4 owner" 1960 Cadillac?Assuming, of course, cars
>           are in equal condition.

Personally, it doesn't mean much to me unless the 1 or 2 owners took
exceptional care of the car. I'd much rather own a 4 owner car that was
always garaged & meticulously maintained by 4 fanatical owners than one
that was owned by 1 owner who beat the crap out of it & dumped it in the
woods behind his house 10 years ago. (yes, I've seen both types.)

The overriding factors in a vehicle's value are desireability of the model
in the current market (supply & demand), and vehicle condition. Period.
 
Ted Brooks
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From: schludermann@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: //WANTED\\DETAILS ON UPCOMING TEXAS SWAP MEETS
Date: 16 Sep 92 00:28:43 GMT
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory


   hi.
   I am currently seeking swap meet activities in Texas and neighbor states
throught the end of the year. Send me the details and I'll post a summary.
                              Kris
From: rlwst8+@pitt.edu (Robert L Williamson)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: the 250 G.T.O. Ferrari
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:58:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

I looovve just typing the name of this care let alone looking at it?  Last 
time I heard this baby get sold it was at a Monterey, CA auction and it's
sticker price ended up being $16,000,000.  Has anybody heard the latest
blue book value of this piece of machinery? (if there is a blue book value!)


				Rob 
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Re: Positive ground questions
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: bl
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 13:06:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.161903.28065@cbfsb.cb.att.com> dkp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
 (david.pearson) writes:
>	I am currently restoring a vehichle with a positive ground 
>electrical system an I am quite baffled. I understand the concept 
>behind negative ground systems but I am not sure what is going on
>with the postive ground. How does voltage get transfered to the coil?
>the starter? What would cause a power drain? How would I go about testing
>this system and trouble-shooting problems? Any insight appreciated.
>						Dave Pearson

No problem, the current flow is just the opposite from a system
with negative ground.  If, in troubleshooting, you use a test lamp, then
you can ignore polarity anyway.  If you are using a multimeter, then
just connect the positive lead to the ground/chassis and use the
negative lead to test for the presence of voltage.  One thing to
obviously be wary of is the installation of any aftermarket radio
or sound equipment.  There isn't much around that has the option of working
with a positive ground system.  During the 60's/70's there were several
aftermarket radios available that worked with either a positive or
negative ground system (there was a switch on the radio that you
set for the particular ground type).

By the way, what type of vehicle is it?  Most of the positive ground vehicles
I have seen were usually British.  If that's the case, you might want to
subscribe to the british-cars email list.  If it is a Triumph, I can 
provide you additional information about our national Triumph club,
the Vintage Triumph Register.

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From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Refinishing wood steering wheel
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 06:51:47 GMT



--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
Pherrets are Phun!! 
SAAB - Because you get what you pay for.
hinzd@picard.med.ge.com
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From: wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Wayne Smith)
Subject: Junking old cars so power plants can pollute?!
Organization: The John P. Robarts Research Institute, London, Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 21:46:24 GMT

I just saw a news item on CNN that should turn the stomachs of all the
readers of this group...

It seems that California will, or is considering, letting power plants
buy old cars, and by junking these cars, the power plants can then
exceed polution standards by an amount equal to what the old cars 
would have emmited.

During the item I saw footage of really really nice (no rust) 60's
darts (or swinger? or falcons?) being crunched.  I almost ralphed.

What in hell's name are you californians doing?  Are you nuts?
You've let your power plants get away with murder for so long, and
now this?

I just hope that the prices for these cars react by increasing in price,
so that it would make the scheme too expensive to work.

(The front-man for this piece was a guy who owns a '60 Chrysler 300, and
was concerned about the availability of parts.  Why don't these power
plants strip the cars and sell the parts to pay for cleaner plants?)
From: jbn@photon.uucp (Joe Naiman)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Pontiac (-Oakland) Car Club
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:40:02 GMT
Organization: Photon Research Associates, Inc.


Several months ago I inquired about the Pontiac Car Club.

I recently came across a GTO owner who gave me the information
about the San Diego chapter.  Tuesday night at their meeting I
got information about the International organization.

The Pontiac-Oakland Club International can be contacted through
Dick Hoyt, the International Secretary.  His address is
286 Ahmu Terrace, Vista, California 92084.

Also my apologies to Oakland owners who were omitted when I
inquired about the Pontiac club.

Joe Naiman
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: mickus@rapee.met.kth.se (Mikael Schalin)
Subject: 6 volt headlights (halogen?)
Keywords: halogen
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, NADA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:47:28 GMT


Hi!

Does anyone know if there any 6 volt halogen headlights with 
full and half light?

... Or anything better than my standard lights... 


-- 

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		       		 Royal Institute Of Technology
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From: mxl@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (marc.a.levy)
Subject: insurance
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:25:30 GMT



Could someone reccomend a good insurance company that will
insure my car for a reasonable price, and let me drive it once
in a while?!!


I can handle a 2500 Mile per year limit, but to limit WHEN and
WHERE I can drive it is Rediculous.

I also need a company that will let someone under 25 drive the
car.

I would think that any insurance company would want to insure
this car, because it is a car that is taken care of, and
driven only in nice weather, and not verry often!

Marc.
From: cummings@natinst.com (Rodney Cummings)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: FOR SALE : '67 Cougar parts
Date: 13 Sep 92 17:04:05 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: falcon.natinst.com

I've got a load of '67 Mercury Cougar body parts that I need to get rid of in
the next few months, including :   
bumpers
doors (w/ glass)
fenders
deck lids
headlight assemblies (w/ vacuum pumps)
emblems
and much much more

If anyone is interested, send me e-mail.

-- 
     Rodney Cummings            cummings@natinst.com
     National Instruments       Austin, Texas
I would say that standard disclaimers apply, but since I don't have a
copy of the specification, I don't know if I'm conformant or not.
From: james@cadillac.Eng.Sun.COM (James Mangin)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Need help:  Value of '67 Ford Galaxie
Date: 10 Sep 1992 16:52:18 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: james@cadillac.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: cadillac

With *much* reluctance, I may end up selling my Ford in the next few months...I'm
finishing restoration on my Camaro and once it's finished I won't need two cars.
Anyway, I'm trying to get an idea of what to ask for my Galaxie.  Here's some
particulars:

1967 Galaxie 500 - 4 door
2nd owner
White ext, Blue int, Paint is 3 years old.
Interior is absolutely immaculate, save the dash which has the normal speaker-grate
disintegration...trying to remedy that now.
Headliner completely like new...car not smoked in.
390 motor, converted to electronic ignition..other than that, completely stock. 
2BBl carb - car rated at 275hp with 2bbl, 315hp with 4bbl.
Not so much as a scratch on *any* of the chrome, all is like mirror finish..even
the old orange/black Calif. plates look brand new.
Original wheel covers, like new.
Semi-new steel belted radials with 3inch (?) whitewalls.
Air Conditioning works GREAT.

I'll miss it...the *ultimate* highway cruisemobile...sigh.

Any advice is appreciated...

---
James Mangin                           |"Alone on a midnight passage,
Sun Microsystems Computer Corporation  |I can't count the falling stars
Mountain View, California              |While the Southern Cross & the satellites
                                       |they remind me of where we are" - Jimmy Buffett
From: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Help for rebuilding water pump.
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:56:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NSWC, Carderock Div. Det., Annapolis Facility


I was driving my '48 Chrysler last weekend and the water pump developed 
a massive leak when I stopped for lunch. Luckily I could drive it home 
since the leak stopped after the engine warmed back up.

I took the water pump apart, and the face seal is all worn out.  The 
rest of the pump looks good, although I will probably want to replace 
the two ball bearings.

Can anyone direct me to a firm that might have a seal rebuild kit, or 
who can rebuild the pump.  I have tried Roberts Motor Parts in Mass, 
but they don't have anything for my car.  No-one locally has been able
to find anything.  It looks like all I need is a flat carbon face seal
and a pair of rubber washers to seal the shaft.  The face seal is like
a 3/16-inch washer with two ears on opposite sides.

The car is a 2-door New Yorker with the 8 cylinder engine and fluid 
drive transmission.

Thanks, Mark Cervi
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From: hinz@picard.med.ge.com (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: data aquisition
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 10:40:52 GMT

Wayne Smith (wlsmith@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca) wrote:
: In article <gans.716240453@ee.ualberta.ca> gans@ee.ualberta.ca (Kevin Gans) writes:
: >Wish to finda source for 12-bit data aq. brd. w/12-bit res.;
: >ADC (and less importantly DAC); one channel in (one ch. out if DAC)
: >;approx. 100 kHz sampling rate for the ADC.
: >				       Thank- you for your help
: 
: Would that be like the '66 Ford version (multiplexed in 3 groups of 4),
: or the '57 Chrysler (straight -12)?

Well, I've got the Swedish version, would that help?

--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
SAAB - Because you get what you pay for.
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Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: massengale_m@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Spotlight installation
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:15:25 GMT

I have two correct NOS 6-volt spotlights for my '54 Ford.  I'd like to have
them installed; in fact; I have instructions and a template for them.  The
problem is, my car is a Crestline Victoria and the doorposts are covered 
with the stainless trim that distinguishes all the Crestline models.  I've
been advised that drilling through stainless will warp it, and the spot
brackets won't fit flush to the posts.  

This seems plausible since spots are usually only found on Mainlines, Couriers,
and Ranch Wagons.  I'd still like to use the spots rather than sell them.
Any suggestions for installation?

Thanks for your assistance.

Melanie

Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: aefron@cornerstone.com (Andrew Efron)
Subject: Re: New 1965 Shelby 427 Cobras
Reply-To: aefron@cornerstone.com (Andrew Efron)
Organization: Cornerstone Research, Cambridge, Mass.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:12:28 GMT

In article <26100@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW) writes:

> The genuine article from Shelby will indeed be expensive, though of
> course we won't know for sure HOW expensive until he completes and sells
> a few.  My guess is that a few J. Alfred Gottrocks types will bid up the
> first few, betting that the operation won't last long enough to dilute
> the market.

 See the August Road & Track, folks.  Shelby is taking no less than $500k for 
these machines, and he's not in it for the money so he's not hurrying to 
crank them all out.  The man himself:

"'About three years ago, I decided to complete the cars, and I've finished 
eight Cobras so far.  We just do two or three a year, and I'm not interested 
in doing a lot of them.  It isn't a top priority for me.'"  (R&T, August)

I'm sure he'd be happy to take more, but I doubt the speculators would have 
much luck bidding up the prices since original, mint Cobras can be had for 
well under half a million.  I can't imagine too many people (even very 
wealthy ones) who'd cough up an extra hundred thousand bucks plus to get a 
new/old Cobra rather than a mint original.

Andy


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it turns out to be history, well, so what?"

			--Carroll Shelby, from "The Cobra-Ferrari Wars, 1963-1965"
From: lockwood@acidqueen.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Lockwood)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: New 1965 Shelby 427 Cobras
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:03:41 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.146.12.28

In article <26100@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov writes:
>It's all academic for me, of course, but I just hope they go to people
>who will actually drive the beasts (or vintage-race them, dare we hope?).

Now there's an interesting extension of the concept that it's a 1965
auto....vintage racing.  Would it be eligible?  Currently no plastic
Cobra-wannabees vintage race.  If Shelby didn't make it, you can't run
it.  Shelby did make this one.....hmmmmmmm...



>The thought of an "investment Cobra" that sees daylight only when the
>butler needs to sweep out the garage is kinda depressing.

Were you at the Monterey Historics a couple of weeks ago?  That thunder
you would have heard (or may have heard) wasn't from investment Cobrae.
And what a sound it was when the green flag dropped!  You could feel
the ground vibrate as the big bore production cars came alive and roared
around the track.  

Unfortunately, one Cobra, a real one, didn't quite make it around turn
11 on one lap.  I was up at turn 10 and didn't see it, but They tell
me it rolled over.

My favorite Cobra there, a red 427 jobbie, had a license plate that
reads:

	LYTSMUP

And it does too.  



Regards,

Jim Lockwood - KM6NK
lockwood@acidqueen.eng.sun.com
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From: kbr@cbnews.cb.att.com (kenneth.b.reber)
Subject: Re: Overdrives
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:45:47 GMT

In article <65520016@hpscit.sc.hp.com> dick@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Dick Lucas) writes:
>Check out recreational vehicle suppliers.  I have seen overdrive units for
>RVs as available as add on units.  The typical large RV has a 454 chevy,
>so any RV unit may be heavy enough for your application.
>
>Hope this helps,
>
>Dick Lucas



Located near me is a restoration shop that as a big part of their business
they install overdrive units in antique cars with a speciality being Model
A Fords (so many "A's" are used for touring).

His name is Lloyd Young, 614 837 7832.  He's installed OD's in everything
from early teens cars to '60's cars.

Ken
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
From: rex@eng.umd.edu (Rex Root)
Subject: FORD STARLINER
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 19:47:48 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa

Anyone out there know if the Ford Starliner is popular among collectors
and how much one would have to pay to get one in reasonable shape?
These cars were only made in 1960 and 61 and I haven't seen any for
many years.

 - Rex
.

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From: mdl@phelixsalt (Michael Lynch)
Subject: Re: Flea Markets
Reply-To: mdl@phelixsalt (Michael Lynch)
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 18:11:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.174905.17828@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, dpl@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (douglas.p.linden) writes:
|> Well, we are finally about to get to the best time of year
|> for some serious parts hunting.  Here in the northeast I'll
|> heading to Bennington VT (great car show as well), Carlisle,
|> and then Hershey.  I hope that other netters will also  be 
|> attending, if so let's hope for dry weather!


I'm at Carlisle Spring and Fall, rain or shine.  Wouldn't miss it.
Never fails that I come away from there with a real "find."

October 1 can't come too soon!


Mike Lynch
From: barnhill@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: '70 MONTE CARLO FOR SALE
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:31:48 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

	This is being posted for a friend, don't contact me, I don't know 
nothing, nohow, about no Montes of this era, I'm afraid...

	 '70 Monte Carlo
	Charcoal Met. Gray, beautiful paint (I've seen it, it's something)
	New Blk. vinyl top
	300HP 350 cu. in., 4bbl
	New tires, exhaust, carpet, stereo, Rallye (sp?) wheels
	Fender skirts
	Rechromed

	Very pretty car, but as I say, don't contact me, I don't know 
anything in the way of detail...
	CALL:

	Phil Wente
	(913) 842-0249

He has no e-mail address.  Car is located in Lawrence, KS (just outside KC)
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: 1965 Falcon Convertible
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:52:31 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens


There is one on road side for sale($700). The car has rust through
floors, don't if it drives o.k. How much this car worth?
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From: whs70@dancer.uucp (22501-sohl)
Subject: Car Show, NJ, Sept. 20
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 20:38:46 GMT


			2nd INTERNATIONAL AUTO FEST
	 	     CAR SHOW - BUDD LAKE, NEW JERSEY

When:  Sunday September 20, 1992

Where: VASA Park, Wolfe Road, Budd Lake, NJ (Exit 26 on westbound I-80)

Vehicle eligibilty: 1981 and older (Most are 50s,60s, 70s)

To Pre-register your car send $6 payable to VASA CAR SHOW, 29 Netcong Road,
       Budd Lake, NJ  07828

For more information:  Call Linda or Bill Sohl (201-691-8116) or
                               Bob Kelly (201-347-6348)

Vendors welcome also: Call for details

VASA park is a shaded grove area with playground.  The cars will be on
display in a shaded grove area.  VASA is a non-profit Scandanavian
cultural organization.

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From: dick@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Dick Lucas)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:40:12 GMT
Subject: Re: Overdrives
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique

Check out recreational vehicle suppliers.  I have seen overdrive units for
RVs as available as add on units.  The typical large RV has a 454 chevy,
so any RV unit may be heavy enough for your application.

Hope this helps,

Dick Lucas
From: gaw30@ccc.amdahl.com (Greg A Worth)
Newsgroups: alt.autos.antique
Subject: Re: insurance
Date: 14 Sep 92 20:49:03 GMT
Reply-To: gaw30@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Greg A Worth)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


You might try Motorsports International Services 
               5601 W Slauson Suite 250
                Culver City CA 90230	
  
              1-800-266-1933

  They have a program going with the Nostalgia Drag Racing Association.  
  They were written up in Street Rodder Sept 92.       
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From: mark@wdcwdc.sps.mot.com (Mark Shaw)
Subject: Re: data aquisition
Keywords: 12-bit aquisition boards
Organization: Motorola Western MCU Design Center, Chandler Arizona
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:52:04 GMT

Oops! I think you misposted that one!  Anybody know which 1949 Ford 2-door used one of
these?

:-)