HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: klg@panda.mc.duke.edu (Kim Greer -- rjj)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Amusing signs
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:33:33 GMT
Organization: Duke University, Nuclear Medicine

In article <9ZFRVB5w165w@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz> system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:
>bigdave@texas.tdd.sj.nec.com (David Sweeney  x2987) writes:
>
>> gfowler@javelin.sim.es.com (Gary Fowler) writes:
>> >
>> >	Slow
>> >  Children at Play
>> >Maybe someone should speed those kids up a bit.

>> Like the sign says:
>> 
>>                         SLOW
>>                      MEN WORKING
>Oh, here in NZ is is usually:
>			SLOW
>		     ROAD  WORKS
>
>Although no one has actually seen a road working, you'll see lots of men
>standing around leaning on shovels watching it closely in case it starts.

And one of my favorites:
			CAUTION
		      GRASS MOWING

I've never figured out how caution grass, which looks just like Johnson
grass to me, could be mowing.  Maybe they've got little tiny clippers.  Oh,
wait, now I get it - that's why they call them blades of grass!

k "my little caution grass shack on Kahookamookawanne" g

-- 
Kim L. Greer                       
Duke University Medical Center		 klg@orion.mc.duke.edu
Div. Nuclear Medicine  POB 3949		 voice: 919-681-5894
Durham, NC 27710  		         fax: 919-681-5636
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:01:05 GMT

rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>>>As far as the strichnine tales go, I think that started as a way to explain
>>>the tightening in the jaw muscles that occurs with some formulations
>>>of acid, and which is probably due to residual ergot alkaloids or the
>>>cheap speed it is cut with.  Claims of strichnine have been debunked...
   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just try to fit enough speed on a 1.6mg hit of blotter, then call up the
Nobel committee to win your prize...

>>	Cramps are due to the LSD.   If it's on paper it's LSD or nothing.
>>Speed can't be put on paper.
>
>There was a time when you could buy, in Boston/Cambridge, gelatin caps
>that contained both a hit of LSD and a hit of methedrine.  I watched
>them fill up the caps.

He did specifically say on paper.

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
From: csa09@seq1.keele.ac.uk (Paul Singleton)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:00:37 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

From article <rodenhiser.86.724381227@chem1.chem.dal.ca>, by rodenhiser@chem1.chem.dal.ca (RODENHEISER ANDREW):

>>TREBLE CLEF:    Lines...                          Spaces...
>>                     Every Good Boy Does Fine           F A C E (face!)
 
> I'm not a musician, so I'd never seen this pattern before.  However I have a 
> recent album by Mudhoney entitled "Every Good Boy Deserves Fudge" which must 
> certainly be a mnemonic for this scale.

Ditto the Moody Blues' "Every Good Boy Deserves Favour"
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From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,ba.politics,ca.politics,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: They used to think...
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:07:54 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

>  +That's why there was a mother goddess, but no father goddess.
>
>Perhaps I don't know enough to understand this (a good possibility)
>but isn't a "father goddess" an oxymoron? Does this mean that 
>there weren't "male" gods so to speak early on?

I know, I looked at this after I had written it, and said
"Say, what?"  But I kept thinking back, and kept thinking that
I swear she said "father goddess," and decided to leave it in
and see if anyone caught it.  ;-)  This person is known for
putting her foot in her mouth regularily, anyway.  (Hmm, but
does it lead to babies?)



--
  Jilara   [jane@swdc.stratus.com]

"The field of pseudo-science hasn't progressed much in ten
years, except to gain access to the net." --from ca.earthquakes
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From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Mark Brader Posts!  (Was: Re: Amusing Signs)
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<BzD884.89K@polaris.async.vt.edu>
	<1992Dec16.202523.25962@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:17:46 GMT

JKF> == jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (Joel K. Furr) writes:
KA>  == Ken Arromdee <arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu>

 JKF> Um, Mark, I thought that you couldn't get anything in the alt.
 JKF> hierarchy.  And yet, here you are.  Kinda blows Jay Maynard's whole
 JKF> argument out of the water, doesn't it?

 KA> No, it doesn't.  It's a crosspost which includes a non-alt group in
 KA> the header.  Such crossposts often reach places where postings made
 KA> just to the alt group don't.

You mean like the following one? [Path and References folded for clarity]

   Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Path: eff!ssd.intel.com!uunet!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu
     !cs.utexas.edu!torn!utzoo!sq!msb
   From: msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader)
   Subject: Re: Amusing signs
   Message-ID: <1992Dec16.035239.17648@sq.sq.com>
   Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
   References: <wingo-041292125515@wingosmac.apple.com> <j!h2m9p@rpi.edu>
       <1992Dec14.233536.7337@newstand.syr.edu>
   Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 03:52:39 GMT
   Lines: 44
   
Unless someone rewrote the headers (possible), that article wasn't
crossposted to a non-alt group, Ken.
--
Christopher K. Davis      | ``Usenet seems to run much like the Kif (or,
<ckd@eff.org>   EFF #14   |   for the TV generation, Klingon) high command.
System Administrator, EFF |   Whoever takes action and can be heard wins.''
+1 617 864 0665  [CKD1]   |   --Peter da Silva <peter@ferranti.com>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: WAY stupid things to do with guns (was self-i
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 13:46:04 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Dec19.222536.19404@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai) writes:
> Jon "A house divided makes two smaller houses." Papai

and is probably against the zoning codes, besides.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.college
From: trump@leland.Stanford.EDU (Michael Jason Lewis)
Subject: Re: Why Not?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 17:09:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.120722.6507@nntp.nta.no> styri@nta.no writes:
>
>No, no, no - it was a student in Glasgow who demanded a pint of beer and
>was shown off the premises because he didn't carry his sword.
>
>The motif seems to be: Student claims some right according to some ancient
>regulation, university gets back by using another ancient regulation.
>
>A similar story is about this guy in Edinburgh, Scotland, who was found
>guilty of some offense. He tried to claim his right to fight for his freedom.
>(Who's going to tell the end of this legend?)
>
I believe he went on to make the movie "Highlander".

- Mike


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: Re: Guess what's not in this dictionary?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:09:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.145252.23202@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>J*** O********* writes:
>>
>>Sure enough, the word "gullible" was not defined in the dictionary.
>>
>Officer...you are an officer? Yes, well, have you a horse? No? Then
>borrow mine. Take this man out and horse whip him. Then report
>back to me for further instructions. And no back chat. We haven't got
>all day. This sand, will it never end.....
>-- 
>Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> Don't be a stranger.


Jeff, that's not enough.  Here's three more horses and a butcher's marker-pen.


	Bob"don't even know what page of my unabridged it would be on"O'Brien
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: bml@netcom.com (Brian Leibowitz)
Subject: Re: Tales about guns (was: WAY stupid things to do with...)
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:25:19 GMT

There was a guy I saw on some TV entertainment magazine type show who
seemed to catch a .22 shot from a rifle.  He had steel teeth (or a cover)
and produced a fired slug.  The was an article in the paper a few weeks
later about this guy getting shot through the back of his neck from the
inside.  (He lived.)  From the slow motion replay (the successful one on
the show) it seemed like he clenched his teeth just before the shot.
My suspician is that the steel over his teeth was designed to accept the
bullet and slow it down by forcing the clenched teeth appart.
And, the shell was probably very lightly loaded.  I don't think the getting
shot was a publicity stunt because I never heard of the guy again.

Either that, or someone loaded the gun with real bullets and he got quite
a surprize.

bml

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: hayesstw@risc1.unisa.ac.za (Steve Hayes)
Subject: Re: Legal language
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:31:03 GMT
Organization: University of South Africa

In article <BzD7Gs.F04@rahul.net> phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson) writes:

>>Because doctors, linguists, computer people, and truck drivers don't
>>have a long history of using complicated and deeply encoded language
>>to swindle their fellow man.  Most lawyers don't do this, but lawyers
>>who are inclined in this direction are uniquely qualified for it.
>
>I would add doctors and priests to the list of professionals who increase
>their authority by obfuscation.  It's only in the last couple of decades
>that many people have started insisting on real information and lists of
>alternatives from their physicians: It used to be "I'm the doctor and I 
>know all these big words, just do as I say and shut up."  And many religions
>add to their charismae by offering services and ceremonies in whole languages
>thier congregations don't understand.  Even the marvelously poetic King James
>Bible was written in language that was archaic _at the time_ to increase its
>sonority.

Not priests so much as theologians, who are masters of the art of the 
nebulous neologism. There is even a word to describe them - neologians - 
theologians given to neologisms. 

I have even developed a computer program to generate such jargon on demand. 
It's been done for other jargon-prone professions, so I just needed to adapt 
it by using the currently-fashionable vocabulary. If you want to impress a 
theologian, just sprinkle your conversation with words like "holistic" 
"paradigm" and "discursive". You don't have to be intelligible, just 
relevant. And DON'T ask "relevant to what?" - that will REALLY expose you as 
a bumpkin.

Steve Hayes, Department of Missiology & Editorial Department
Univ. of South Africa, P.O. Box 392, Pretoria, 0001 South Africa
Internet: hayesstw@risc1.unisa.ac.za
          steve.hayes@f20.n7101.z5.fidonet.org
From: jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (Joel Furr)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: I Live to FAQ!
Date: 13 Dec 92 10:49:52 GMT
Organization: Escape from Blacksburg, VA

c3.harvard.edu> <Bz6J4E.Ew8@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
Organization: Escape from Blacksburg, VA

In article <Bz6J4E.Ew8@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> jkshapir@undergrad.math.wate
rloo.edu (Kivi Shapiro) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.134006.18398@husc3.harvard.edu> joltes@husc10.harvard.edu
 (Richard Joltes) writes:
>>jkshapir@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Kivi Shapiro) writes:
>>
>>>True!  My girlfriend has _seen_ people doing this.  Sources don't come
>>                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>more reliable.
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>Nominated for AFU motto of the decade!!!
>
>Wow!  But I still prefer "sheesh."
>
>And what does "furrfu" mean?  Nobody's told me yet.
>

It means "That Joel Furr.  What a guy."

Sheesh!  I thought everyone knew that.
From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Another University Exam One
Date: 14 Dec 1992 19:09:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: sector7g

In article 9466@ac.dal.ca, egilmour@ac.dal.ca () writes:
> And when he turned over to seventh question on page six it started by
> saying "HUMANS CAN LICK TOO"

no, wait:

> "IGNORE ALL QUESTIONS BEFORE THIS ONE"

This was actually done to me in high school; a twelfth grade physics
test had the instructions *after* the questions.  It wasn't quite as
nasty as "ignore all", but it was something like "answer any two of the
preceding seven questions".

Brian "My university logic course had 'IGNORE ALL INSTRUCTIONS' at the top" Scearce
---
Brian Scearce                                           bls@sector7g.eng.sun.com
              The above does not necessarily represent Sun policy.
                  "You can't fit the truth on a t-shirt, man."
                                 "That'd fit."

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: VOTE ACK: comp.society.folklore unmoderation
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:10:04 GMT

In <Bz0zwn.8tu@rice.edu> cathyf@is.rice.edu (Catherine Anne Foulston) writes:

>I think you're kidding, but my hidden smiley detector is on the
>fritz. :-)

Only amplitude-modulated hidden smileys can be detected with a single
diode.
-- 
/|/-\/-\       In real life, the Vice President chastises Murphey Brown
 |__/__/_/     for her morals.  Bill Clinton plays the sax on "Arsenio
 |warren@      Hall."  Though "Batman Returns" is fiction, it's not too
/ nysernet.org much stranger than truth - Caryn James, The New York Times
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: crying baby in the bank
Date: 17 Dec 1992 07:48:10 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

brent@dylan.calgary.ingr.com (Brent Taylor) writes:

  +Friend of mine yesterday tells me that a FOAF saw this happen in a bank:

  MOM>"Quiet down or I'll tell Santa Claus what a bad boy you've been."

  KID>"And I'll tell Santa Claus that I saw you kissing Daddy's pee-pee."
  +
  +Woman turns beet-red, flees bank with child.
  +
  +Anyone else hear that one?

Ah yeessirreee, this is so old, it's even in the FAQ list.  
Variations include it being overheard on an airplane or
in line at some shop.

Whaddaya say?  10.5 Shergolds?  Where is snopes where you need 'im?


Terry "Maybe 10 Quatloos" Chan
--
Energy and Environment Division   | Internet:  TWChan@lbl.gov
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
Berkeley, California  USA  94720  | Carpe Per Diem
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Alzheimer's and Aluminum pots and pans
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:01:47 GMT

dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:
: 
: >However aluminium cooking utensils probably are in the clear, as I've heard
: >of no studies showing a higher incidence of Alzheimer's among people who use
: >them (unlike the drinking water).
: 
: Tea. Little old ladies in the UK drink lots of it. Lots of little old ladies
: get Alzheimer's. Tea has a high concentration of naturally occuring aluminium.
: Water in the UK is regularly dosed with high levels of alum.
: 
: Tea + UK water = Bauxite soup

And, surprise of surprises. No increased level of aluminum in the bodies of
Alzheimer's.  So, it doesn't matter if it occurs in tea, or not.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: spok+@cs.cmu.edu (John Ockerbloom)
Subject: Guess what's not in this dictionary?
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:20:59 GMT

Last night, a friend and I took a quick look through our local
Atlantic bookstore in Squirrel Hill.  Quick because it unfortunately
has an extremely poor selection for its size.  For instance, in the
reference section the only dictionaries there were Webster's
knockoffs.  Since "Webster's" is in the public domain, any publisher
can use it to name their dictionary. "Webster's" dictionaries, then,
range from the quite good ones printed by Merriam-Webster to those
which look like they were printed overnight, and contain many
omissions and incomplete definitions.

On a sudden suspicion, I picked up a "Webster's" printed by an outfit
calling itself "P.S.I Press" or something like that, with a cover
claiming "over 250,000 words".

Sure enough, the word "gullible" was not defined in the dictionary.

Which brings up an interesting question: what's the largest published
standard English dictionary which _doesn't_ have a definition for
'gullible' in it?  It might make for an interesting note in the FAQ.
(I can go back and get full publisher citations for the book I saw if
that would be useful.)

John Ockerbloom
-- 
==========================================================================
ockerbloom@cs.cmu.edu                4209 Murray Ave., Pittsburgh PA 15217
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: RESULT: comp.society.folklore unmoderation fails 729: 151
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:29:02 GMT

msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes in news.announce.newgroups:

>My proposal to unmoderate comp.society.folklore and make it a replacement
>for alt.folklore.computers has been given one of the most decisive defeats
>I have ever seen a newsgroup proposal suffer.
.....
>This is my last word on the topic of comp.society.folklore,
>until and unless someone *else* proposes doing something with it.
.....
>The following votes were not counted:
>
>(a) 1 obvious prank:
>
>		Craig_Shergold@vms.cis.pitt.edu
>

	I call for a recount.  Mark's got some kind of sick problem,
not letting a dying seven year old vote.

....
>This article is in the public domain.
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From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Subject: Re: Poisoned Cocaine Legend?
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:05:31 GMT

diane@Apple.COM (Diane Patterson) writes:

>A friend told me the story about how a FOAF of his wanted to try
>cocaine and a friend of his (how many friends down the line are we
>now?) said, "I'll get some for you." And so he did and the two made a
>date for the FOAF to try it. Well, the FOAF was late, so the guy who
>got the cocaine said, "I'll start without him," and voila! The cocaine
>was poisoned and the guy died. It was only by virtue of (insert
>favorite excuse for being late here) that the FOAF didn't die himself.

>I didn't see it in the FAQ, so I ask the group: how old and how
>widespread?

	Yeah yeah, I heard it the story, but it wasn't cocaine, it 
was a cat.   Both the FOAFs were supposed to be Vietnamese.

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:45:30 GMT

system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:

>OBUl1: If you sneeze with your eyes open, your eyes will pop out.

	As they say in sci.skeptic, the premise is flawed,
so the conclusion is unprovable.

>OBUl3: The matter transporter WOULD have been the most expensive machine on
>the WHOLE ship if there were economies of scale [more than one], Starfleet
>had shelled out for one that was reliable, and it went *PING* [which it
>doesn't].

	Ah, but the transporter on ST:TNG _is_ the most expensive
item, due to the addition to the bio-filter to keep Weasley off
the ship.

-J.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Full moon and tides
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:59:49 GMT

lowe@fnx.uucp (Phill Lowe) writes:

>Low pressure (caused by several things) means that there is less pushing
>down on the water.  The relative positions of the moon and sun are
>what cause the variations in the tides.  If the sun and moon are on
>the same side of the earth there is a greater combined pull on the
>water.  If they are on opposite sides there is some canceling out of
>the effect.  Full moon means that the earth does not cut off the light
>from the sun on the moon...... ie the moon is not on the opposite side
>of the earth from the sun.
>

	Almost.    If the sun and the moon are on the same side of the
earth, (new moon), the tides are increased.  If the sun and the
moon are on opposite sides of the earth (full moon) the tides are
increased.  If the sun and the moon describe a 90 degree angle
with the earth (1st and 3rd quarters) the tides are less than the
two above situations.  "Cutting off light" has nothing to do with
it.  The pressure from photons is insignificant compared to the
gravitational effects.  And, besides, cutting off light from the
sun only happens when an eclipse occurs, a relatively uncommon
effect.  In sum, go back to school, son.

>
>Not an Urban Legend!  I've seen an additional 2 feet of tide caused by
>the combination. Very impressive if your folks have a beachfront cabin
>that's only two feet above the normal max high tide!

	Yes, full moon and new moon are the worst time to have a
big storm roll in with low pressure and incoming winds.

Jon "F=m1*m2*G/r^2" Papai
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: ldoering@engin.umich.edu (Laurence Doering)
Subject: Burning Mines
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:51:12 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <Bz3osM.AA8@austin.ibm.com> bwilson@austin.ibm.com writes:
>
>Now, I have a question about burning mines - I have heard a story about
>a coal mine that caught fire, and they couldn't put it out so it was sealed
>off, but still is burning (this has been years now) and it will continue
>to burn for a few more years.  They say in winter snow will not stay on
>the ground over the mine, because of the heat, and so you can find it in
>the winter quite easily.
>
>Now I know this doesn't fit the UL style - it didn't happen to anyone in
>particular (although there might have been people trapped inside who had to
>be sealed in as well, I don't really recall) but my question is - has anyone
>else heard this sort of story, and could it really happen?  I know mines can
>burn, but can they continue to burn for years after being sealed off?

A good example of this is in Centralia, Pennsylvania.  There were a number
of coal mines under and around the town, and one of them originally caught
fire 15 or 20 years ago.  When I lived in Philadelphia, every year or so
the paper would run a story about how the mine fire (later, multiple fires)
under Centralia were still burning.  All sorts of techniques were tried
to fight the fire, and none of them worked.  BTW, I doubt it was possible
to "seal off" all the mines - too many entrances, etc.
There were places in town where smoke came out of the ground, and numerous
hot spots where snow would melt.  About 10 years ago, the government 
decided the town was unsafe, mainly because carbon monoxide from the fire
was seeping into peoples' houses in lethal amounts.  Almost all of the
residents of Centralia were bought out (I think a couple of stubborn
people refused to leave), and their houses were razed.

Larry
"then there was the fire in a used tire dump in NJ that burned for weeks"
Doering