HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: subra@gandhi.cc.nd.edu (Kumaraswamy Subramanian)
Subject: Acad R12 over X11R4??? 
Reply-To: subra@gandhi.cc.nd.edu (Kumaraswamy Subramanian)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 02:14:45 GMT

Hello Acaders,

I am looking for Information regarding R12 of Acad basically from the point
of view of using it over X11R4(not Openwindows). Acad R11 was pretty
sluggish over X11R4 and we don't want to upgrade to R12 if it hasn't been
tweaked for X11R4. If anybody out there has experienced R12/X11R4 , can you
compare the performance to that of R12 over Sunview.
Also, are there any catchy features which will motivate for an upgrade
under Sunview?

Thanks

subra
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From: hordvik@suca01.cern.ch (Ulf Hordvik)
Subject: Convert 100 .dwg files to .dxf
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:40:09 GMT


I have to convert 100 .dwg files to .dxf. How can I best do this in an 
automatic way?


Thanks, Ulf Hordvik


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From: ah395@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey T. Hansen)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Compaq computers and R11
Date: 16 Dec 1992 20:41:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah395@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey T. Hansen)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, msgrobs@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (TONI GROBSTEIN) says:

>A friend of mine has just installed R11 on a Compaq Prolinea 4/33 -
>this is a 486 with a math coprocessor and plenty of RAM ... and it
>runs really, really slowly.  Any ideas why and how to speed it up?
>

Just a top of the head guess, are you using a memory manager?
ACAD R11 out of the box doesn't like memory managers, it likes
to have sole control of the machine.  

There's a program on a supplemental disk called NEWDX that 
changes the pharlap manager in acad.exe to co-exist with other
memory managers, check it out.

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Jeffrey T. Hansen
Not affiliated with Case Western Reserve University
From: rme81977@zach.fit.edu (Brian Fritz/ ADVISOR Russell (MAE))
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Q387_v31.zip for AutoCad 11?
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:09:24 GMT
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

Has anyone out there gotten ACAD 11 to work with a math coprocessor
emulator?  I've recently downloaded the program above from SIMTEL-20
and it seems to work with ACAD-11...but the catch is, that it is nagware,
I mean it works for 20 minutes and then dies...Anyone out there
using the same program?  Or anything like the sort?
-Brian
e
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: John Austin <jea1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Plotting to an Apple LaserWriter IIg
X-Xxdate: Thu, 17 Dec 92 20: 45:23 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: jea1@cornell.edu
Organization: Boyce Thompson Institute
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:39:06 GMT

In article <BzF36B.4p8@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> Varkki George,
varkki@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:
>We are running AutoCAD R10 on a Gateway 2000 '386 machine connected
>via COM2 port to an Apple LaserWriter IIg printer. Unfortunately, we
>cannot seem to plot drawings on this laser printer. We configure
>AutoCAD to plot to a postscript device. When we plot a drawing, the
>printer light flashes for a while and then stops.

A couple of thoughts:

1) Is there a missing MODE command somewhere to set up your com port?

2) Try plotting to a file (say, out.ps), shelling to DOS and typing

xcopy out.ps com2: /b

if this works, explore either the mode command or some printer timeout setting.

Good luck.  You also might consider the R12 upgrade- postscript support has
been greatly enhanced



.  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .  .
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:49:24 LCL
From:         Steve Rutland <DISR014@ACADEMIC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Help: 3D Studio
              18 Dec 1992 08:28:20 GMT from <quopingl@CS.UMR.EDU>

>I have some question about the 3D studio.  I am using R12 to generate
>a series of slide files.  I am planning to animate these slides on the
>screen and the slide must be rendered.  Could any one tell me how to
>quickly save and play back(animate) the rendered pictures?
    (remainder deleted)

Try using Animator Pro from Autodesk to animate saved rendered pictures.
I believe CorelDRAW 3.0 also has a playback system also.  Several
individual here have rendered Autocad files in Autoshade then transfered
those images to Animator to create run-time animations.

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From: dlb@controls.ccd.harris.com (Doug Bennett)
Subject: Re: Redefining Attributes
Organization: Harris Controls Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:40:43 GMT

COM1BOOT@UCSBVM.BITNET ("David G. Booth") writes:
: Let's say you have a drawing which has many insertions of a block
: containing attribute information. At a later date, your boss tells
: you he wouldalso like to have another piece of data attached to each
: block (you forgot to include the part no. as part of the attribute
: definition). How do you add this to the existing blocks - without
: losing all the attribute information that is already there?.
:   If you redefine the block with the new attribute included, then
: reinsert it in the drawing with an equals sign, yes, it will replace
: all previous insertions, and you will also have to re-enter all the
: attribute information for each block.
:   If you just start using the new block and not replacing the old one,
: then your old blocks are all missing the part no. attribute.
: 
: Does anyone have a solution or an easy workaround?
: (acad R11)
: Hope you can help, I've tried to get all the information necessary included
: in the attribute definition from the start, but as usual things change as
: soon as the project is completed....
: 
: Thanks in advance..
: 
: David Booth
: University of Califirnia, Santa Barbara
: 
: com1boot@ucsbvm.bitnet
From: varkki@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Varkki George)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Plotting to an Apple LaserWriter IIg
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:53:56 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

Hi!

We are running AutoCAD R10 on a Gateway 2000 '386 machine connected
via COM2 port to an Apple LaserWriter IIg printer. Unfortunately, we
cannot seem to plot drawings on this laser printer. We configure
AutoCAD to plot to a postscript device. When we plot a drawing, the
printer light flashes for a while and then stops.

Has anyone been able to plot with this kind of a setup? Or, does
anyone know what we are doing wrong?

Varkki George
-- 
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University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign | Tel:    217.244.7059
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: milad@archsci.arch.su.edu.au (Milad Saad <milad>)
Subject: Dragging without using draggen() function
Reply-To: milad@archsci.arch.su.edu.au
Organization: Design Computing Unit, Sydney University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:10:15 GMT

Hello Experts,

As mentioned in the ADS manuals (pp 93-94), we can use ads_xformss() to
transform a selection set by applying a transformation matrix.
Similarly, the ads_draggen() can be used to perform the dragging
effects.

The point is that I want to use ads_xformss (with ads_grread()) to
implement dragging similar to what ads_draggen() function does. I do
not want to use ads_draggen() because it pauses and waits if you don't
move the mouse and my program wants quick response to do some other
things. I have that working but there are two problems that I would
like to know if someone there can helping solve them:

     1. Once I call ads_xformss() function AutoCAD is generating all entities
	inside the ss before existing even if you move the mouse. While with
	ads_draggen() handle it differently once the user move the mouse AutoCAD
	stop generating the ss and try that with the new position.
	
     2. After generating the ss with ads_xformss() AutoCAD leaves some spots
	behind which I have to issue the redraw command to get rid of them.

Does anyone there have an idea how can I deal with those problems.

Thanks in advance

---

Milad Saad

Design Computing Unit
Department of Architectural and Design Science
Wilkinson Building (G04)                    Tel:    +61-2-692-2053
The University of Sydney                    Fax:    +61-2-692-3031
NSW 2006 AUSTRALIA                          E-mail: milad@archsci.arch.su.edu.au

Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: larettin@eos.ncsu.edu (LEIGH ANNE RETTINGER)
Subject: Has anyone written an "international" AutoCAD application?
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:35:57 GMT

I am writing an ADS application.  This application will someday
be used in other languages besides English (Japanese, Korean, etc...)

I have no experience in programming anything except single byte 
character sets.    
 
I would love to converse with *anyone* who may have experience 
using multiple byte character sets.  My most pressing question at
the moment is how to handle displaying prompts and menus in another 
language.

Seems like there would be some AutoCAD documentation addressing this
issue.  Am I missing something?  I just have the basic set of R12
manuals.

Any help greatly appreciated!

-- 
Leigh Anne Rettinger 
Graduate Student, Computer Engineering
North Carolina State University

larettin@eos.ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: Chris.Lovelock@purplet.demon.co.uk (Chris Lovelock)
Subject: Re: how to convert autosk
Organization: FidoNet node 2:252/305.0 - The Purple Tentacle, Reading
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 12:27:00 +0000

 -=> Quoting S Juhana Jutila to All <=-

 SJJ> Problem: I have some Autosketch -files and I would like to convert
 SJJ> these to Autocad-format. Are there any conversion routines (pd,
 SJJ> shareware, commercial software... whatever) for this task ???

Why can't you DXFOUT the AutoSKETCH files from AutoSKETCH, then DXFIN
them to AutoCAD?  Am I missing something?

Ah! he thinks... with AutoSKETCH for Windows you *can* create DXF files,
but I don't know about earlier versions of AutoSKETCH.  Perhaps that's
your answer.

Chris...

Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: gbrand@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Graham Brand)
Subject: Bill of Materials programs for ACAD R10
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:30:42 GMT

Can someone recommend a good, inexpensive (is that an oxymoron!) and
configurable Bill of Materials program that works with Acad R10? 
Ideally, it should have the following characteristics:

	- dBASE 3+ or 4 (V1.5) based
	- configurable by user (both parts database and the report
	  format)
	- inexpensive (PD/shareware would be great)

I have looked in the two main Acad magazines (I have forgotten their
names) but have not come up with many leads. The market really seems
to have shrunk from a few years ago.

Thanks,
-Graham Brand
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 08:16:32 -0800
From:         Steve Morse <morses@OHSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: how to convert autosk

On Fri, 11 Dec 1992, Chris Lovelock wrote:
> Ah! he thinks... with AutoSKETCH for Windows you *can* create DXF files,
> but I don't know about earlier versions of AutoSKETCH.  Perhaps that's
> your answer.

AutoSKETCH 1.04 is the first version I used and it supported dxf.  Worked
quite well actually.  I drew in asketch and plotted with acad.(no plotter
at home!!!)

--
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Oregon Health Sciences Univ., 3505 SW Veterans Road, Portland, OR 97201-2966
(503) 494-2238               Internet: morses@ohsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: dlb@controls.ccd.harris.com (Doug Bennett)
Subject: Re: Enterprise DXF file....?
Organization: Harris Controls Division
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:35:30 GMT

MCNAMARAD@VSCNET.BITNET writes:
:         Does anyone know where this file can be put so that everyone can
: have access to it (rather than me mailing it to everyone)?
: 
: Dennis
: (mcnamarad@vscnet.bitnet)
 
Is there some reason why it should not be posted to this newsgroup?
From: jhb@dcs.ed.ac.uk (John Butler)
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Subject: Re: Idiotic licensing in version 12 for Sparc ?
Date: 13 Dec 92 10:37:44 GMT
Reply-To: jhb@dcs.ed.ac.uk (John Butler)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Edinburgh University

In article <1992Dec8.211546.26068@nobeltech.se>, SIMON.92Dec9204818@liasg2.
epfl.ch writes:

> ... the lock manager ("elm") *definitely* uses *both* the IP address and the
> hostid for key validation.   ...    This is stupid  ...

Woops! I agree.  Binding the IP address into ANYTHING is a recipe for major
headaches.  

Can someone enlighten me as a novice AutoCAD user,
1) what's wrong with using just the hostid like everyone else? The IP address
   confers no extra security as anyone sufficiently desperate can forge it,
   surely? - it just creates administrative headaches.

2) Er - what gotchas have I missed with the floating lock manager / "elm" ?
   In our simple-minded setup it seems ideal but I'm about to go out and buy
   20 AutoCAD licence tokens to add to our copy of elm and it would be nice
   to see the rocks before they land on my head.

-- 
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University of Edinburgh            phone: (+44) (0)31-650-5181
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Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:19:14 PST
From:         "David G. Booth" <COM1BOOT@UCSBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Redefining Attributes

Let's say you have a drawing which has many insertions of a block
containing attribute information. At a later date, your boss tells
you he wouldalso like to have another piece of data attached to each
block (you forgot to include the part no. as part of the attribute
definition). How do you add this to the existing blocks - without
losing all the attribute information that is already there?.
  If you redefine the block with the new attribute included, then
reinsert it in the drawing with an equals sign, yes, it will replace
all previous insertions, and you will also have to re-enter all the
attribute information for each block.
  If you just start using the new block and not replacing the old one,
then your old blocks are all missing the part no. attribute.

Does anyone have a solution or an easy workaround?
(acad R11)
Hope you can help, I've tried to get all the information necessary included
in the attribute definition from the start, but as usual things change as
soon as the project is completed....

Thanks in advance..

David Booth
University of Califirnia, Santa Barbara

com1boot@ucsbvm.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.cad.autocad
From: Gary_Ponting@mindlink.bc.ca (Gary Ponting)
Subject: Re: Convert 100 .dwg files to .dxf
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:01:33 GMT

> Ulf Hordvik writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <1992Dec16.104009.207@dxcern.cern.ch>
> Posted: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 10:40:0
>
> Org.  : CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
>
>
> I have to convert 100 .dwg files to .dxf. How can I best do this in an
> automatic way?
>
>
> Thanks, Ulf Hordvik


Use a script file!

For example
2
dwgname
dxfout
dwgname
quit y
2
dwgname2
etc.

There are a few utilities that will take all the drawings in a particular
directory and run a script on them.
Note: The is an extra return in the dxfout command for the amount of decimal
places that you wish to go.

  The utilities can be found on Compu-serve or you could type in all the
names. Test a script file on one or two files at first and make sure you get
the bugs out.

Later<>Gary

Newsgroups: alt.discrimination,soc.culture.african.american,misc.education
From: y41@aix320d.urz.uni-heidelberg.de (Jeffrey Hazelwood)
Subject: Re: Institutional racism in education
Organization: University of Heidelberg, Germany
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 15:25:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.030723.5591@athena.mit.edu>, solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky) writes:
|> In article <Bz38I5.IxG@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, cogsdell@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (tony c) writes:
|> 
|> |> The economy in this country has excluded blacks! 
|> |> Those who hold power(whites) have systematically kept blacks from
|> |> acquiring the capital(economic definition), required in any Industrialized 
|> |> society, to form wealth.
|> 

Those who hold power no matter who they are, exclude the others.  They 
exclude blacks, other whites, etc.  This is not a phenomena unique to 
white people.  In Africa, those in power also exclude everone else.  In
China, the same thing.  This seems to be more of a topic of the haves v.
the have nots. 

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Subject: Re: Institutional racism in education
From: ohall@milori.ccit.arizona.edu
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:20:48 MST
Distribution: usa,local
Nntp-Posting-User: ohall

In article <1992Dec12.145948.923@blkbox>, collins@blkbox (Chad R. Collins) writes:
> kls30@cd.amdahl.com (Kent L. Shephard) writes:
> 
> 
> 	I believe that it the standard arguement why whites still owe something
> to blacks- it isnt becuase of slavery but becuase of continued discrimination.
> But then again, there are MANY groups that have had the same kind of 
> discrimination- asians, jews, irish, polish, etc.- that have all risen
> above it and become successful. And the one question I have never heard
> answered very well is why this is so for most groups, but not a few- such
> as blacks. I don't mean to point to anyone and say they are a "model
> minority" or to belittle their experience, but I do think this shows that
> blacks give far to much power to the discrimination that exists, and for
> a good measure they should look to themselves for the solutions to their
> problems instead of only to others.
> 
> 							Chad R. Collins
> 							collins@blkbox.com
> 
>
  Maybe it's because we are the most easily identifiable.  I have known blacks
  who look white and they have expressed the discrimination the face when it is
  discovered that they are black.  White females in the work force are commonly
  faced with the problem of it not being discovered that they are married to
  a black man.  Co-workers of mine experienced it and told me so. 
  It's kind of bad when in a white school system a white girl says to a black
  boy "I like you but my dad would not approve...".  I'm not hung up on white
  women, but this is another example of how integration has been a failure.  So
  IMO I think it's best we part, as in another nation.  We have hell living
  together as one nation under god.  It's getting to be one nation under satan.
 			
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From: buchignani@hg.uleth.ca
Subject: Re: Relevance of African-Am. History to U.S. citizens
Reply-To: buchignani@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:49:27 GMT

Dear Sherlette Dixon,

I replied, to your e-mail message to me, only to get the following
reply from someone else:

 
From:	MX%"jpa2001@andy.bgsu.edu"
To:	BUCHIGNANI
CC:	
Subj:	Re: Relevance of African-Am. History to U.S. citizens
 
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:12:22 +0100
To: Norman Buchignani <buchignani@hg.uleth.ca>
From: jpa2001@andy.bgsu.edu
 
>The University of Lethbridge is located in Lethbridge, Alberta.
>To provide some geographical markers, we're located in far southern
>Alberta, about an hour's drive from both the US and British Columbia
>borders. The Rockies are in view to the West--Waterton National
>Park in Canada, and Glacier Nat. Park in the US.
>
>Hope your comment gets some response; it would be nice to see some
>variety on that list...
>
>Norman
 
I think you've got the wrong address.  I've been getting alot of mail that
doesn't belong to me.  John P. Asendorf  jpa2001@andy.bgsu.edu
 
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Clearly, something isn't working right on your side. Sorry to all
of you on the list for posting this, but...

    Norm Buchignani/University of Lethbridge/BUCHIGNANI@HG.ULETH.CA
"If we have been accustomed to deplore the spectacle...of a workman occupied
during his whole life in nothing else but the making of knife-handles or pins'
heads, we may find something quite as lamentable in the intellectual class, in
the exclusive employment of a human brain in resolving some equations, or in
classifying insects. [This] occasions a miserable indifference about the
general course of human affairs, as long as there are equations to solve and
pins to manufacture."                                      Auguste Comte
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