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From: Ross_Werner@next.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: NeXTDimension video output.
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:20:42 GMT
Reply-To: Ross_Werner@next.com

In article <93018.074631HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> HARRAPR@QUCDN.QueensU.CA  
writes:
> Hi:
> I was using a friends NeXTDimension board a while ago and attempted
> to output video from the screen to a vcr. The results were not too
> impressive - color areas came through okay, but window borders
> appeared to vibrate wildly (left to right) and some artifacts, also
> vibrating, appeared throughout. Obviously this is a synch or
> interference problem.
> 
> Is it necessary to use a fantastic vcr (frame-accurate) to get
> reasonable output from the ND, or is it just not possible? Any
> other suggestions on using the ND for video?
> 

One of the unfortunate facts of life with the existing television standards  
(NTSC and PAL) is that they are interlaced.  A complete picture, or frame, is  
made up of two fields - one containing all the odd lines, the other with all  
the even lines.  Drawing of the fields alternates at a 60Hz rate (50 Hz for  
PAL.)

This means that any single pixel wide horizontal line will flicker since it is  
drawn in only one field.  The NeXT user interface uses lots of single pixel  
wide horizontal lines, this looks great on the NeXT monitor but flickers  
annoyingly on the NTSC output.

The NTSC standard will also result in some other artifacts, such as "chroma -  
crawl" on edges where there is a color change.  

I don't know what you mean by "window borders appeared to vibrate wildly (left  
to right)."  I have used many different VCRs (everything from a $199 consumer  
model to an $8000 professional model) to record the ND video output, and with  
the exception of the problems I described above, the video quality has been  
excellent.

On a high resolution screen such as the NeXTdimension's, it is very easy to  
create an image that looks just great, but will look terrible when encoded to  
NTSC.  Reasons for this include the interlace, color encoding, and limited  
frequency response of the NTSC and PAL standards.  Some very basic rules of  
thumb for creating images that will encode well:

	1) Don't use single pixel wide horizontal lines.
	2) Avoid the use of fully saturated colors.
	3) For practical purposes, the luma (Black/White) bandwidth of NTSC
	   is about 4 Mhz.  Simply stated, alternating black and white
	   single pixel wide vertical lines will end up as a grey mush.
	4) The chroma (color) bandwidth of NTSC is 3Mhz at most.  Small color
	   features (less than a few pixels horizontally) will tend to 
	   disappear or cause unpleasant artifacts.

Let me emphasize that these rules of thumb relect limitations of the NTSC  
television standard, not the ND hardware.

The NTSC encoder on the ND is pretty good, but as a result of deliberate cost  
and board space tradeoffs it is not "broadcast" quality.  (Go check the cost of  
a broadcast quality encoder.)  If you want the best possible NTSC image, get a  
professional RGB -> NTSC encoder and drive it from the RGB video output.  

Ross Werner
ND Hardware Architect
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: yanfang@cc.utah.edu (YAN FANG)
Subject: Sam Goldberger--where is he?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:01 MST  

I'm a NeXT specialist at a VAR in SLC. A client wants to look at one of Sam 
Goldberger's modified '040 boards. If anyone knows his phone number, could that 
anyone please email it to me--or call me at 801/269-8877.

Kris Magnusson
Alpine Computing/MicroAge
chris@nurslab303a.nurs.utah.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: matt@zeb.ame.nd.edu (Matthew J. Grismer)
Subject: Re: Bitch, Bitch, Btich (was Re: New Trinitron Color Monitors)
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:43:40 GMT

In article <107969@bu.edu> ambi@it-next2.bu.edu (Michael Amirault) writes:
> In article <1993Jan22.064021.16036@cs.yale.edu>  
> nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette) writes:
> >
> > The Fimi sucks; it's an embarrassment to NeXT.  The new Sony
> > is so much better it's not even funny.  We previously refused
> > to purchase color NeXT systems without 3rd party displays
> > (Nanao T560i).  In the future we won't hesitate to order
> > the NeXT/Sony 17" display.
> > 
> 
>   Am I the only one who absolutely *loves* there NeXTStation
> Color with the Fimi 17" display??  Everyday I read in these
> newsgroups how:
> 
> 	a) the Fimi 17" display is a piece of ****.
> 	b) 3.0 is so buggy that is shoudln't have been released.
> 	c) All the NeXT machines running 3.0 are too slow unless
>           they have 32MB of memory.
> 
>  I can't be the only one out there who thinks this all a bunch of 
> garbage, can I?  I have a NSC at home with 16MB of memory and Fimi
> 17" monitor and I think it's the best thing I've ever used. 
> 
..

I too am using a NeXTstation color with 16 Mb of RAM and NeXTSTEP 3.0, and  
find it very useable and satisfying. I haven't found any bugs in 3.0, and  
16 Mb RAM is quite adequate for my everyday work (programming and using  
many different applications).
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: tas@engr.ucf.edu (Taha Sidani)
Subject: NeXT CD-ROM drive on IBM
Organization: engineering, University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:13:09 GMT

I would like to use my NeXT CD-ROM drive on my PC compatible.
What exactly do I need?  I have an IDE drive controller in my PC.

If I need a SCSI card, what type, how much (cheapest) and from where?
What kind of software do I need (driver), and where can I get it?

Thanks in advance

Please reply to 

taha@ists.engr.ucf.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: lmccullo@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael McCulloch)
Subject: Re: NS 486: Begin the Quest
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 15:33:10 GMT

In article <108572@bu.edu>, mek@acs.bu.edu (Mark Kern) wrote:
>
>	Well, how about the current Gateway Systems :
>
>		486DX2-66
>		256k cache
>		16 megs ram  (additional $320 or so)
>		2 340meg IDE local bus drives (additional $400)
>		ATI Ultra Pro (16 bit local bus color with 1meg VRAM)
>		17" Nanao (Invar shadow mask, dynamic beam focusing, $700)
>		both floppies
>		mouse, windows, etc.
>		------------------------
>		$4415 (beats the heck out of an 8/250 mono turbo for $4118)
>		$  95 shipping (natch)
>
>	This is a system I'm thinking about getting now, and I sure hope
>it will be able to run NeXTstep in the coming year.  Oh yeah, add $500 for
>NextStep 486.
>

Well, before you run out and buy a 486, I suggest you wait until NeXT
clarifies the HW issues. The release of a _detailed_ HW compatibility
guide is imminent according to NeXT. This should clear up confusion,
especially regarding the video cards and VRAM amounts needed for 16-bit
color.

Oh yeah, the developer's edition according to the last official info I've
seen is $2495 ($995 for runtime edition). We all hope NeXT is _just kidding_.
If they price it that high, then it's gonna be _very_ hard to convince my 
boss that we need (and can afford) NeXTSTEP.

NeXTSTEP 486 should be priced at $495 for the runtime edition, and $995 
($1495 absolute tops) for the developer's edition. Otherwise the market
_will_ opt for NT (or SCO if they want UNIX) without a second look at 
NeXTSTEP. You already have to have a loaded PC (memory, video, HD) to
run it -- charging 995/2495 would be suicide.

Michael McCulloch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu  (Avery Wang)
Subject: Re: Can a Station live without an internal drive?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 03:34:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.230703.25813@cs.wm.edu> ciardo@cs.wm.edu (Gianfranco  
Ciardo) writes:
> 
> I am also thinking to pull out the original 250 and sell it on the
> net to recoup some cash, but, for variuos reasons, I would like to
> keep the Fujitsu in the external enclosure, not in the the Station.
> The difference in price between the enclosure for the DAT only and
> the enclosure for the DAT and the HD is only $25, and the extra
> flexibility is worth it (to me).
> 
> Is this possible?  Reasonable? Advisable?
> 


Totally possible and straightforward.  And if you hide your external  
underneath a pile of books and other mufflers, it will be amazingly quiet!

-Avery
From: chienhua@simplex.ecn.purdue.edu (Chien-Hua Hsiao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Which machine can use these simms
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:02:33 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


Please help me to identify which machine can use following simms.

+---------------------------------+
| +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | | |
| +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ +-+ |
||||||||||||||||| |||||||||||||||||
+----------------^----------------+
       |                  |
    32 pins            32 pins

These simms have 8 chips on it. The code on the chip is  AAA1M300J-08
                                                         NMBS    9130
Are the simms 1Mx8-80NS.

Thanks in advance. Please e-mail me.


Chien-Hua Hsiao
chienhua@ecn.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: cmumford@iat.holonet.net (Chris Mumford)
Subject: Deskwriter C & NeXT
Organization: HoloNet National Internet Access BBS: 510-704-1058/modem
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 03:47:54 GMT

Is there some driver out there that will allow me to use my Deskwriter C
with my NeXTStation?  Or do I have to get another printer?
Xref: sparky comp.sys.next.hardware:3438 comp.sys.mac.hardware:27160 comp.sys.mac.system:16744 comp.sys.mac.wanted:13154 comp.sys.next.software:3664
From: delingma@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca (Dan Lingman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Stylewriter <->Next - How to do it (Data on stylewriter formatting wanted)
Keywords: Stylewriter Next Data formats
Date: 27 Jan 1993 16:49:47 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Lakehead University; Thunder Bay, Ont


Hi. I have a Mac SE at home, and have the temporary use of a NeXT for my
thesis work.  I also have a stylewriter (I) and would like to connect it to
the NeXT. Can anyone out there give me some specs on what the stylewriter is
expecting to come from the computer, as well as what type of signals it sends
back? (Things like a signal for beginning of page, beginning of stripe,
stripe width and height), how to tell it what resolution etc etc. 
I would buy a printer to hook to the next, but I really can't justify 
that for a machine that I will be giving back in four months.

Thanks for your help.

Dan Lingman
delingma@thunder.lakeheadu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp)
Subject: Re: Can a Station live without an internal drive?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:41:05 GMT
Organization: The Home of the Pilhuhn

ciardo@cs.wm.edu (Gianfranco Ciardo) writes:
>keep the Fujitsu in the external enclosure, not in the the Station.
>Is this possible?  Reasonable? Advisable?

Yes, null problemo.
-- 
Heiko W.Rupp  Gerwigstr.5  7500 Kh'e 1  hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org  +49 721 693642
As the poet said, "Only God can make a tree" -- probably because it's
so hard to figure out how to get the bark on.
		-- Woody Allen
From: mek@acs.bu.edu (Mark Kern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Using alternate printers
Date: 23 Jan 93 23:03:42 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: mek@acs.bu.edu


I'm very interested in using an Epson ActionLaser II with a Next monostation.
The Epson Actionlaser II is capable of emulating an HP laserjet IIp.  Would
this work if I hooked it up to a station?  Would I need a special cable? The
printer has both a serial and a parallel port.  

Markus
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: dimitri@dutiea.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko)
Subject: free inode has _MANY_ blocks
Keywords: free inode
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:52:58 GMT

In article <C1910r.J7r@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl>  
dimitri@dutiws.twi.tudelft.nl (Dimitri Tischenko) writes:
...
> Has anybody experienced the same symptoms?
> 
> Dimitri
> 
Hello.

In the same thread (the problem may be related)

I've got this message a couple of times and I just saw it again:

Jan 19 17:02:04 dutiea mach: free inode //84994 had 16248 blocks
Jan 21 15:39:56 dutiea mach: free inode //87238 had 1225749778 blocks
Jan 22 12:22:55 dutiea mach: free inode //87239 had 788890524 blocks
Jan 22 12:41:30 dutiea mach: free inode //87243 had 1985137377 blocks

Is it panic time? 

Dimitri
--
Dimitri Tischenko 	                NeXTmail preferred! 
 Delft University of Technology         Technische Universiteit Delft
 Fac Applied Math & Computer Science   	Fac. Techn. Wiskunde & Informatica 
 The Netherlands                        Nederland                                                
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: bvrotney@ADS.COM (Bill Vrotney)
Subject: Disk media longevity
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415) 960-7300
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 08:40:49 GMT


I am planning on purchasing a backup removable disk media for my NeXT and I
was wondering which media has a longer life: optical or magnetic. I was told
by some that optical media has a shelf life of around 10 to 15 years after
which it may start losing bits. I was told by one disk distributor that
optical has a longer shelf life than magnetic. But then I was told the exact
opposite by another. Does anyone have any info confirming which has a longer
shelf life?


--
Bill Vrotney
BAH/Advanced Decision Systems
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: keith@iscp.bellcore.com (Keith Hawkins)
Subject: Source for SIMMs Sought
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 20:58:24 GMT



[ Now how's that for aliteration.  Looks like
  a Daily News headline!!!]

Can someone recommend a vendor for 30-pin,
low-profile, vertically mounted SIMMs
for my '040 Cube?  I need to find current
prices and sources.  The FAQ info seems to
be a half a year old.

You can reply to me directly, if you like
to avoid cluttering this newsgroup. I'll post
a summary of responses.

Thanks,
Keith
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Source for SIMMs Sought
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:16:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.205824.3547@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>  
keith@iscp.bellcore.com (Keith Hawkins) writes:
> 
> Can someone recommend a vendor for 30-pin,
> low-profile, vertically mounted SIMMs
> for my '040 Cube?  I need to find current
> prices and sources.  The FAQ info seems to
> be a half a year old.

No, it's about two weeks old.  You must have
an out of date copy...

--
Nathan Janette
PPP link from hilbert.csb.yale.edu

Please reply to: nathan@laplace.csb.yale.edu (NeXT)
From: samurai@cs.mcgill.ca (Darcy BROCKBANK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New Trinitron Color Monitors
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:22:33 GMT
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1993Jan21.195021.5257@athena.mit.edu> zmonster@athena.mit.edu (Eric M Hermanson) writes:
>Will someone please comment on the improved clarity (if any) of the new
>Sony Trinitron Color monitors over the old Fimi 17 inch monitors?  Is there
>THAT big of a difference to warrant selling an old color system and buying
>a new one with Trinitron monitor?


Trinitron == Rolls Royce
Fimi == Yugo

I never saw blue until I saw the Trinitron monitor using NeXTSTEP.
(But hey, a picture is worth a thousand words, isn't it?)

- db
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu  (Avery Wang)
Subject: Apple CD300 and audio disks and non-Macintosh machines?
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 04:14:50 GMT

Hi-

I read that the Apple CD300 can read regular audio disks via the SCSI bus, but  
I was wondering if this mode is available if I used the CD300 on a  
non-Macintosh computer, such as a NeXT.  I would like to read sound tracks off  
a normal CD into my NeXT.  Does anyone have a clue as to whether or not this  
is possible?

Thanks,
-Avery

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: eric@erix.demon.co.uk (Eric Cafritz)
Subject: 128 MByte Optical Drives and NeXT? 
Distribution: world
Organization: Coudert Brothers (Paris)
Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1993 13:53:56 +0000


In article <1j6ts2INNmvg@spock.dis.cccd.edu> maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu writes:

>
>In article <1993Jan15.125044.14808@linus.mitre.org> wherndon@smiley.mitre.org> (William Herndon) writes:
>>    Does anyone have an experience in connecting a 128 MByte R/W optical
>>    to a NeXT?  Can we expect that SCSI versions of these devices will
>>    work without problems?
>>
>>    Thanks much.
>
>I've tested the Ocean Vista 128 and the Vista 256 and they both work great 
>on the NeXT.  The only problem I had was that when I did a BuildDisk and
>tried to boot from the optical it didn't work at all.  After putzing 
>around with it I concluded that BuildDisk in NS 3.0 doesn't work.  Can
>anyone confirm this or offer their experiences?
>
I use a PLI 128, and NS 3.0 boots fine from it, after an ordinary
BuildDisk.  I use the -rw flag in the boot command.  I have had no problems
with the PLI, but the fan is noisy.
{uunet, attmail!erix!eric} or eric@erix.demon.co.uk

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
From: mckenney@cims.nyu.edu (Alan M. McKenney)
Subject: Trying to connect a modem
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Originator: mckenney@gauss.cims.nyu.edu
Organization: Courant Institute, New York University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:31:21 GMT

    I am posting for a colleague who has a NeXT computer,
but isn't able to post.

    He has a NeXT computer that he bought from someone.
He doesn't know a lot about Unix or computers.  The
computer has revision 3.0 of the operating system.

    His problem: he would like to connect to the NYU
computer system via modem, but he doesn't know what
is involved.  He says he tried to connect a Hayes
1200 baud modem to the serial port, but the system
somehow couldn't find the modem.  The NeXT documentation
is apparently pretty limited on the subject.

    So, two questions:

(1) can any standard modem (i.e., PC-compatible)
    be used on a NeXT computer?

(2) what hardware and software work needs to be
    done to allow him to actually use the computer?
    He mainly wants to read E-mail from home, but
    I suppose eventually he will want to do the
    same things that most PC users want to do:
    upload & download files, etc.

(By the way, I have been looking through the Sun
documentation, and find that I have no idea how
I would connect and use a modem on my SPARCstation,
either.)


    I suspect that this is a question from the FAQ,
only I haven't found the FAQ yet.  So please send
E-mail info to: mckenney@cims.nyu.edu.  If there
is interest, I will summarize for the net.
(Also tell me which newsgroup is more appropriate
for this question.)


-- 
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Courant Institute,NYU,USA     ...!cmcl2!cims.nyu.edu!mckenney   (UUCP)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu (James Powell)
Subject: Writeable CD-ROM hardware for NeXT
Keywords: CDROM
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:43:58 GMT

Does anyone know of a vendor who sells a NeXT specific hardware/software  
configuration for publishing your own CD-ROMs?  Any idea what the startup  
cost would be?  I need hardware that will allow me to create ISO9660  
CD-ROM's for use on various platforms, especially DOS.  Thanks.

--
James Powell >>> Library Automation, University Libraries, VPI&SU
             >>> JPOWELL@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU 
	     >>> jpowell@borg.lib.vt.edu - NeXTMail welcome here
	     >>> Owner of VPIEJ-L, a discussion list for Electronic
	     >>> Journals
From: mrothste@keiko.acs.calpoly.edu (Rothstein)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NS 486: Begin the Quest
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:07:33 GMT
Reply-To: mrothste@data.acs.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo

As the release of NS 486 has begun approach (hopefully NeXTEXPO '93) I  
have started to look through the rags to see what my developers system  
will cost.  I like to sugest that we start a thread and as we see good  
prices on NS compatable hard ware we post them and keep a running list
of the best prices.

My idea of an entry Developers System is as follows:
	33Mhz. 486DX
	16 MB RAM
	500 MB HD
	accelerated localbus video (I dont know how much VRAM is needed
				    to achieve 16 bit color)
	17" color display

I planned to list retailers but I forgot to bring the info so i'll post  
that later.  In the current issue of PC WORLD they review a 17" color  
monitor by Acer (I'll have to check on that name) that they compared to a  
NEC 5FG and had a street price of $999.  500MB Hard Drives seem to be  
about $1000.  I've seen 4MB 70ns simms recently for $116 which means $464  
for 16MB.  I haven't checked motherboaards as recently but in Dec. I saw  
33Mhz. 486DX VL-BUS boards for ~$1000 (w/o video).  I have no idea what an  
accelerated Local Bus video card goes for.

My personal goal is $3000 for the hardware.  I know there are alot of  
other things that can go in a system but I fealt that this system would  
get you developing and you wouldn't have to throw out things when you got  
the rest later (i.e. move from 15"-17" display = throw away a 15" display)

Now as long as NeXT doesn't price us all out of development (esp.  
students) we could be in business.

Please post your best prices!!!

--
-Mont

   NeXTmail OK :-)
   President CP-NUG (Cal Poly NeXT User Group)
   mrothste@data.acs.calpoly.edu
From: jaffe@hoss.unl.edu (David Jaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: memory chips - best source
Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:16:25 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hoss.unl.edu

What's the best source for memory chips for a NeXTStation Turbo?  Are there
any parameters (e.g speed) which I need to know when ordering the chips?
I was told that Stratum Technology is a reasonable source, but I don't have
a working phone number for them.

David Jaffe (jaffe@hoss.unl.edu)
University of Nebraska - Lincoln
From: schwarz@nucleus.ps.uci.edu (Randy Schwarz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: The Clock on the NeXT
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:35:59 GMT
Reply-To: schwarz@nucleus.ps.uci.edu (Randy Schwarz)
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <1993Jan12.170329.493@athena.mit.edu>, jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) writes:
|> Hi,
|> 
|> I've just got back for several weeks away to find that my NeXT had lost about 5
|> minutes, mesurements since sugest its loosing about 10 to 15 seconds a day, is
|> this normal...do other people have this problem? 

My Next does the same. I never have measured the error in the clock, but it 
just slow enough to anoy me. I must reset it every few weeks.
I'm running NS 2.1 also.

randy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.bugs