HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
Subject: PPitcher Plant Addendum
Reply-To: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:06:41 GMT


In my previous posting about pitcher plant genera I inadvertently 
omitted Chrysamphora californica, the so-called Cobra Lily, a 
North American native.  This plant used to be called Darlingtonia
californica, but the gods of taxonomy and nomenclature ruled that 
name invalid some years ago.

An excellent reference work on carnivorous plants is Adrian Slack's
book CARNIVOROUS PLANTS.  Allen Swenson's CULTIVATING  CARNIVOROUS
PLANTS is also very good.

J. Del Col
-- 
Jeff Del Col      *       "I'm never lonely,...living in my heavily      
A-B College       *   populated solitude, a harum-scarum of infinity        
Philippi, WV      *   and eternity, and Infinity and Eternity seem to          
                  *   take a liking to the likes of me." Bohumil Hrabal.
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: those damn orange vests
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:09:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames


Sigh.

Now that I drive on federal property (Moffet N.A.S.), I have to buy
one of those orange safety vests.  Me, I'd rather have to put a big
orange whip antenna than wear a flappy plastic vest.

So, the question is, who makes *sturdy* safety vests?  Does anyone
know how the ordinance is worded?  I'm curious as to whether or not a
bright orange/red/yellow jacket would count as a "safety vest".  (Or a
orange/red K1... :-)

I'm in the south bay area, in case you feel like giving pointers to
local stores...

--
J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
'91 CB750, DoD# 0378
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS)
Subject: Motorcycle For Sale
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:11:48 GMT


I have a Honda CB450 motorcycle for sale.  It is a 1974 model
but is in good condition and only has about 8200 miles on it.
Because it is an older 450, it has very good low end power.
It has an extended front end and a King/Queen seat.  Tires
are good and I believe the back is almost brand new.  I bought
the bike a couple of months ago and my sister wanted to trade
me because she had a similar bike without a title and also 
had parts and repair knowledge for the bike.  Anyway, the
bike is still in my name but she needs the money.  I don't
know of anything wrong with the bike.

She is asking $600 for the bike but the price is somewhat
negotiable.

You can e-mail me or call be (between 6:30 pm and 1:00 am) at

(919) 828-8677

Jack Waters
Raleigh N.C.

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: boo@athena.mit.edu (Christopher J Foley)
Subject: Re: Cop Flashlights
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:37:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.192034.11080@col.hp.com>, cab@col.hp.com (Chris Best) writes:
|> > >Probably because cops have a history of abusing gay people, whenever
|> > >I see one of these flashlights I immediately envision somebody's
|> > >skull getting bashed open with it.  The flashlight function never
|> > >even crosses my mind.  Does anybody else have this reaction?
|> 
|> ----------
|> 
|> Watch how a cop holds his flashlight next time.  He holds it at 
|> shoulder level, from underneath, near the head.  That makes it an 
|> instant weapon if necessary.
|> 
|> What you 'envision' is correct.  It's standard training.


See what I mean?  those nasty cops, I tell ya.

I wouldnt have included my violent post if I had read this 



Kid Oreo
1966 Fender Jazzmaster
1943 Bridgeport
1985 Redline Freestyle BMX 

"Why should getting a bike be such an ordeal? They're dangerous and evil, yes?
Therefore I think its fair to expect Satan to just appear before me in a puff of
smoke and just give me an RZ with a cackle."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:02:44 GMT

In article <21642@sybase.sybase.com> leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey Oster) writes:
>Heya!  I'm relatively new to the group, so here's a little introductory 
>posting to give yez an idea wherefrom I am coming.
>
> [lenghty and somewhat farfetched diatribe against national health care
>  omitted]
>
>--
>Leigh Ann Hussey Oster
>leighann@sybase.com			DoD#5913	AMA#624549
>Siobhan ni hEodhusa
>"They're mine!  All mine!  And what's mine is mine!" - Daffy Duck

Seems to me the topic of national health care has nothing to do with
motorcycling.

As you point out, there is already an "economic" argument that 
helmetless riders supposedly cost the taxpayers a bundle.  Since we
pay for this with or without "national health care," what's the diff?

Do you think that riding itself will be outlawed?  Most every other
"civilized" country supposedly has some sort of "national" health
care, but none that I have heard of have outlawed motorcycles.

As far as outlawing abortion in the name of "costing the taxpayer
money," abortions cost less than births (even if they're more
frequent!).  Maybe you should analyze a bit more carefully before
jumping on a bandwagon.

I can see both pros and cons of national health care or insurance,
but shouldn't they be discussed on a different forum?  Isn't there
a newsgroup like alt.politics.agitation or something?

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead])
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: cars-v-bikes
Date: 29 Jul 1992 18:18:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Jul28.204948.15384@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>markk@tcsi.tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
>
>>>In both braking and
>>>cornering the amount of grip between the road & tire is the most
>>>important factor.
>
>>In brakeing, wheelbase/cg height is also very important, Hence the
>>success of the FXR.
>
>A good (un)real-world comparison would be lap times at various tracks.
>Though you'd have to make sure that the cars & bikes were running the
>exact same course. Anyone have car & bike times for a wide open track
>like Daytona, and a tight one like Laguna Seca? How about 1/4 mile
>times? Aren't cars down into the 4 second range?

 Bikes are quite a bit faster than street-based cars at Laguna Seca.
 Even a good race-prepped car at Laguna will have a hard time besting
 1:50. Bikes will do that fairly easily.

 Stefan

--
Stefan Fielding-Isaacs         me: (415) 599-4876  me at them: (415) 688-9400  
dba Live-Wire Technologies (a consulting technical writing firm) 
AMA/CCS #5, Regional Lightweight Supersport, Superbike, Grand Prix Champion
mail:  race-request@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM to join motorcycle roadracing list
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From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: New $$$=New bike?
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:11:25 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <Brw8zM.F57@gtsi.com>, rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:
|> What would you do if your income increased by 57%? I have had the good fortune
|> to secure a heavily yuppified position for myself. I was making good peanuts 
|> before, but now I'm making big peanuts (let's just say more than twice my age
|> in K).

well, my income increased by >200% 2 months ago and i went out and got me a
heavily modified 750 FZR :):):).  they're kinda hard to find, though, so you
may have better luck with a GSXR750.

|> So, what are the Denizen suggestions? We'll take it as a given that there are
|> suggestions for FJ1200's and ZX-11's.

ZX-11 is good, but what's an FJ?  aren't those like big touring bikes or
something?

;-)

axel

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers)
Subject: Re: Ducati for sale
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
	<1992Jul24.231724.14686@sequent.com> <1992Jul27.065049.23694@apex.com>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:39:19 GMT

>In article <1992Jul24.231724.14686@sequent.com>, dickwin@sequent.com (Dick Winningstad) writes:

Graeme Harrison wrote:
>>>>The '80 Ducati 900SS must be a '90 model.

I wrote:
>>>Must be.  Whatta typo.  Only an idiot would think that Ducati made a
>>>900 SuperSport in 1980.  I mean, they've only been out for two years
>>>now...

Dick Wingingstad wrote:
>> I do not know how this post originated, but Ducati was making 900SS's
>> in 1980.  They were the old bevel drive motors but they were called
>> 900ss.

Dean Crane wrote:
>I don't know much about Ducati's, but I posted this excatly as it was
>printed in the Seattle Times.

Guys,

My poor attempt at humor obviously failed miserably.  Please note, I
_HAVE_ a early '80s Ducati bevel (and have been accused of _BEING_ a
bevel-nazi).  And two of my very best friends _HAVE_ Ducati 900
SuperSports (the _REAL_ ones, none of this rubberbandhead business!
:-).  One is a '79 (Ed Hackett) and the other is an '80 (Rick Howard).

Just FYI, here's my old .sig:

-- 
"Hokey religions and ancient weapons are no match for a good blaster
 at your side, kid."                           - Han Solo, Star Wars
Al Bowers                                 bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov
Iaido  Takamine  Hobie 16  Rossignol  Alfa GTV6  Ducati MHR DOD #900  

Ride careful...

--
...ignoring the fact that most Alfas spend their time cruising for
chicks, most Datsuns being washed and most Porsches in parking spaces
marked "Doctor"...              -Henry N. Manney III, Road and Track
Al Bowers                                 bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov
From: laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cages suck (women cagers)
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:45:24 GMT
Organization: DFWM, Inc

In article <l6ml34INNrb6@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM (elaine 'BEANO' leffler) writes:
> i can see where the stereotypes come from (not to say i condone them).
> someone suggested that if more women rode motorcycles, they'd be more 
> conscious of other riders - i think there's *some* truth in that.

no, i don't go for this idea that women more often pull into the way
of a motorcycle because they don't see it.  frankly i don't think
women do it any more or less often than men.  but women do it-- not
because they're not paying attention-- but because very deep down
inside they don't like and see as a good chance to rid society of 1)
the big bad biker dudes habitually portrayed in our society as rapers
and pillagers, and sometimes not without cause and 2) the neon biker
trash who seem to be constantly swarming underfoot on 101 at something
near red shift and begging you to dent their plastic. five lanes and
he wants to drive in all of them simultaneously at twice the speed of
traffic.

do i watch for bikes while i'm driving my car?  you mean, like the
idiot on an interceptor who passed me on the right monday at a green
light as i was making a right turn WITH my signal on?
 
-- laurie
____________________________________________________________________
"Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023
Organization: University Libraries - Library Automatio, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:36:28 -0400 
From: Christine Hogan <ch3c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Reasonable highway displacment
	<Bs7Bvz.Epn@news.udel.edu>

My CB-1 inline 4 399cc did just fine on the ride to the RCR and back.
Round trip was 900ish miles. The only parts of my body that were sore
were my but and my shifting ankle. (Gotta love that 9000 to 13000
powerband)


 
|Chris Hogan                    |         1127                 |     
|ch3c+@andrew.cmu.edu           | Soft as the massacre of Suns |
|                               | By Evening's Sabres slain    |        
          
|CB-1                           |             emily dickinson  |
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Help identifying farm bike
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:53:39 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Jul21.191517.222@halfdome.sf.ca.us> laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
>In article <1992Jul18.040712.6162@csrd.uiuc.edu>, leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung) writes:
>
>> Any tips from other GS/PD owners?
>
>hey bruce, next time we meet in moab it'll be a bevy of
>boxers :-)  (hi, blaine!)
> 
>-- laurie

Hey, I know a great little back road down in that part of the world.
It's kinda longish, beautiful scenery which lends itself to the fine
qualities of the GS.  Not particularly technical.  You'll have a 
great time...if you survive.  I'll probably be down next year to help
you find the starting point.  You'll love it.  :-)

Ride Free,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu if you feel compelled to send email
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu if you seriously expect an answer
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002   SR= 2.125
FJ1200 R100GS/PD 740GLE  KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

True humor has beneath it the understanding that we are all
in this together.  Hugh Prathers
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Synthetic oils?
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:57:32 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Friday July 24 1992 00:49, Peter A. Simon wrote to All:

 >> In article <3784.2A63CFA5@kennel.FIDONET.ORG> john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG

 PAS> knocking each others bikes, riding habits, choice of oil, ex-SO and so
 PAS> forth is at least part of what this net is all about.  racist remarks,
 PAS> though, are, i think, in the very poorest taste.  in the future please
 PAS> post your sick garbage on rec.shit-brained.fascist.

Peter, when you use your news reader's quoting, try to learn how to do it
right. You quoted me beyond my "We know where you are, asswhipe" reply into
someone else's comment which DID have a racial slur in it. I don't appreciate
inaccurate quoting, if anything, you are the one who needs to clean up your
act, because attributing someone else's quotes to me is very uncool.

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: jearls@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Jeffrey David Earls)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: FJ1200 exhaust system for sale.
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:57:43 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.


  I've got a stock FJ1200 exhaust system that I'd like to get out of
  my garage.  It's off of an '89.

  The left muffler is scraped up (low-side damage) but is not dented.  The
  rest of the system is in excellent condition.

  For all four head pipes, the collector box, collector box hanger bracket,
  and both mufflers I'd like to realize $400.  The stock mufflers cost 
  $280 apiece new from Yamaha.

  I'd prefer to sell it as a complete system but will also consider parting
  it out.

  I will pay shipping anywhere in the U.S.  Shipping outside the U.S. can be
  negotiated.

  Any takers?



--
===============================================================================
|Jeff Earls  jearls@tekig6.pen.tek.com | DoD #0530  KotTG  WMTC #0002  SF3.67 |
|'89 FJ1200 - Millennium Falcon -------+ "Hit the button Chewie!"... Han Solo |
|'86 VF500F - Anti-Christ              |                                      |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Fork Oil (Re: A few tech questions)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:52:37 GMT

In article <9900947@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney) writes:
|
|Add oil until you reach the specified height with the springs
|removed and the forks fully compressed.  You did have your forks
|compressed, I hope?  

Unless the manual says to do it uncompressed, the way mine does.

YMMV.

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmmmm)             |  this weird shit
No ratbike at the moment.  Suggestions?     |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: FJ vs. ZX engine mods
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:08:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.011045.3734@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>
>Take a look at the Sept. issue of Motorcyclist. In addition to Lance
>Holst's toasted (sesame seed?) buns, there is the return of the
>"Superbikes From Hell" shootout. This year's entries are a pair of GSXR
>Suzukis (1340cc & 1450cc), a fuel injected ZX-11, and a BMW K1 with
>turbo and nitrous oxide.
>
>Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108

It also has a blurb saying Kaw is coming out w 3 new bikes an 1100, 750
and something small. Says reportedly significantly faster then the ZX's.
Anybody got any more info???????
 
================================================================================
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
From: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want 2B DoD #1428
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:09:09 GMT
Reply-To: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)


In a previous article, MBS116@psuvm.psu.edu (Michael B. Smith) says:

>I would like to be ordained as Do #1428.

Michael,
    I hereby ordain you Do #1428.  Now you can Do what you want to do,
go where you want to go.

	I hate to do this (no, I don't really), but...


BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZTTTTTTTTTTT!!!!!

	WRONG ANSWER!
-- 
...............................DarkMan..................................
Trying to think of something profound to put here.  Also available for
advertisements at a reasonable cost.                       DoD# 650
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: Nicest Interstate
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:32:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.031026.26817@ncar.ucar.edu> jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan) writes:
>> OK, where's the _nicest_ chunk of Interstate highway in the whole US of A?
>> Must be a stretch at least 50 miles long.
>
>Okay, here's another. A lot of I-70 in Colorado from Denver to Grand
>Junction is very scenic, cutting through the Rocky Mountains (nothing
>like the two-lane state routes, but since you asked...). Particularly
>impressive is around the Glenwood Springs area, where they are working
>on putting the interstate right through one of the mountain ranges in a
>project that, bigger than the Eisenhower Tunnel, is expected to cost
>more than the entire rest of I-70. Disclaimer: because of the
>construction, that area is often gridlocked. Well, so what; you get off
>the bike and start shooting film.
>
I have to second this one.  Ann & I had wanted to avoid the I-series on our
trip, but this is one we enjoyed immensely.  The Glenwood Springs construction
was astounding.  It reminded me of a monorail system with all the bridges
and tunnels.  Too bad it wasn't open yet.


-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Environmental Impact of Motorcycles
Organization: Bit Herders International
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:54:50 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.053302.24978@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> robert@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Robert Kennedy) writes:
+I've heard it said that a motorcycle pollutes the air about as much as
+a car does, but that's a pretty vague rule of thumb. Does anyone have
+data or any sort of genuine information on how much a motorcycle
+pollutes? How does it vary with the fuel efficiency of the motorcycle?
+Number of cylinders? Displacement? Year of manufacture? Manufacturer?
+Model?
+
+In particular, how does the environmental damage from riding my 1979
+Honda CM400T compare with the environmental damage from driving my
+1987 Honda Accord LX (no CA emissions option) the same distance under
+the same conditions? Both are running fine.
+
+Vague replies such as, "Well, the two are about comparable" to
+/dev/null, please.

On one hand, this is vague; but on the other is too valuable to thow out.

One of the big advantage of bikes for urban commuting is that they keep
going when traffic jams*.  So, when cars are going around 0 miles per
hour, they are polluting.  For the same pollution, bikes have moved quite
a few miles.  Thunk in terms of pollutants per hour, you can see that
bikes are less polluters in this environment.  (That is not even taking 
into account that the biker is not in a cage, slowing the traffic down
even more).

* Traffic Jams do not have to do with Stevie Winwood's group in the '60s.

============================================================================
	"David rode in Triumph throughout the land"
		-- Biblical reference to motorcycles
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Paul D. Blumstein, paulb@tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA, LS/MFT
         Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
From: brucer@drutx.ATT.COM (RobinsonB)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: FJ Newsletter Info
Summary: and does the newsletter mention ...
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:51:49 GMT
Organization: AT&T, Denver, CO

In article <BruGxJ.FzM@mail.boi.hp.com>, edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh) writes:
+ 
+ The FJ newsletter was also mentioned in both Motorcyclist and Road Rider
+ magazines.

	Was the "Dickweed Award" mentioned?

:)

-- 
    66
     >
     ^ .................. brucer " President L. Abbot Fan Club " (DoD #0002)
From: dickwin@sequent.com (Dick Winningstad)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:04:29 GMT
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

If you like the Post Office,
You'll love socialized medicine


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
+Dick Winningstad                                                    +
+                    Italian Wines are Fine                          +
+          I'd rather be on a Moto Guzzi in eastern Oregon.          +
+          Fourth gear curves at 7000 RPM are the greatest!          +
+dickwin@sequent.com                                                 +
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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