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From: marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Extreme
Date: 20 Nov 92 12:46:13 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Nov18.191654.66@uoft02.utoledo.edu>, jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
> hill@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Hill) writes:
>> 
>> Jason (or any other Extreme fans, but I think Jason sorta knows my
>> musical tastes), what would be a good first album by Extreme?  

Get "3 Sides to Every Story".  It's by far the best one yet.  The one before it
was very good also though.

>> (Preferably one of the more recent, more Christian-oriented ones?)
> 
> - i'm not an Extreme fan. they're not my style, and i really disliked
>   "More Than Words" because it seemed like to much of a "Have sex 
>   with me or I'll leave you" type of song.

I don't think that "have sex with me" was the message they were trying to give. 
I've heard that look at it many times from Christians, but NEVER from
non-Christians.

Perhaps the song is more innocent?  Maybe?  Maybe not?

> - that said, yeah, you probably would like their new stuff. i've heard
>   a few singles & it sounds pretty decent for the genre. the vocals
>   almost sound like Kings X at times. i don't remember the title, just
>   go to the store & get the one that's sitting on the display racks
>   instead of back in the bins. :^)

KING'S X?  Are you sure that you've listened to the new Extreme?  I'm a big
King's X fan and I beg to differ.  The guitar sound is similar, but the
difference between Ty's and Nuno's PLAYING is huge.
 
> jason
> 

Evan
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Extreme
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:16:53 GMT
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hill@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Hill) writes:
> 
> Jason (or any other Extreme fans, but I think Jason sorta knows my
> musical tastes), what would be a good first album by Extreme?  
> (Preferably one of the more recent, more Christian-oriented ones?)

- i'm not an Extreme fan. they're not my style, and i really disliked
  "More Than Words" because it seemed like to much of a "Have sex 
  with me or I'll leave you" type of song.
- that said, yeah, you probably would like their new stuff. i've heard
  a few singles & it sounds pretty decent for the genre. the vocals
  almost sound like Kings X at times. i don't remember the title, just
  go to the store & get the one that's sitting on the display racks
  instead of back in the bins. :^)

jason

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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:30:31 -0500 
From: Steven Timm <st0o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Album Review:  GLAD:  "Floodgates"

Glad's 1987 album "The Acapella Project" led to a success which the group 
has not yet recovered from.  That album generated more sales than all 
their previous ones combined, and a new group of Glad fans who wanted to 
hear acapella music at every stop.  This is the fifth album since that, 
and the first one that does not in some way claim to be some sort of an
acapella or classical project.  The personnel of the group is the same
as on those recent albums.  The effort to throw back to pre-acapella days
is in my opinion only partly successful.

This album, like all others, is released on Benson and produced by Ed Nalle,
(the only continuous member since the beginning.)  Scriptural references 
abound, such as the story where the woman washes Christ's feet with perfume
"Forgiven the Greatest".  That and two other songs from Bob Kauflin
(former member) "We are Receiving A Kingdom" and "Hallelujah" are
highlights of
the album.  They cover an old 2nd Chapter of Acts song "Which Way The Wind
Blows".  Two songs are written by Billy Simon, and two by their keyboardist,
Jeff Hamlin.  "Torn in Two", the final song, is perhaps the best.

Some of the songs seem not of the right genre for Glad to sing.  Others
just get tired well before the song is over.  There are several instances
of mediocre material that is well-sung.  This album is not a highlight
in the history of the group, but it is nothing for them to be ashamed of.
Perhaps it can be a successful stepping stone to wherever it is they 
are going next.

Steve's rating  2.5 thistles on a scale of -5 to 5
From: steveso@wpi.WPI.EDU (Steven C Sousa)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: PRAYER REQUEST!!!!!!!
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:22:55 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1e97u7INN2qk@coral.bucknell.edu> motto@bucknell.edu (john motto `94) writes:

>
>To Steve and anyone else who is confused:
>
>I was in no way saying that the music that we presently use is "crap".  As
>a matter of fact, I never said that in my original article.  What I was 
>trying to say is that I wanted to incorporate SOME G&P music ALONG WITH
>the stuff we presently use.  I love songs like "Jesus We Celebrate Your Victory"
>and "Shine, Jesus, Shine".  I just wanted them to be more **open minded**
>about the songs we are going to use.  Besides...there are many non-traditional
>Catholic praise songs in G&P (at least as far as my church at home goes).  I
>don't want to start singing hymns or anything...just a little more variety to
>make the Catholics who come to the meetings feel more 'comfortable'.  I know
>quite a few who came once and never showed up again because things seemed
>so "foreign" to them, especially any freshmen who are coming for the first
>time.  That is all I was saying.  I hope that this cleared that up a little.
>Thank you for your concern...it is deeply appreciated.
>
>In our Savior,
>
>John

	I agree with you absolutely that variety is the spice of life, but I
don't see how using more songs from one particular songbook is going to make 
anyone feel more comfortable with the service. I doubt very much that a
freshman would show up once and never come back simply because he or she 
isn't familiar with the music. If they enjoy singing, they will take the 
effort to learn the songs, and if they prefer to pray monotone (so boring,
my prayer life gets so flat when I don't play songs to God regularly) then 
there must be other reasons they are being turned off. Before this gets too
much off the original subject, may I suggest making copies of the words to all
the songs passed out beforehand. If you're playing a tricky song for the first
time, it doesn't hurt to teach it to everybody before you start. However, if
people are being turned off, I would advise you to just reach out to them more.
If you see someone new, introduce yourself. Make that person feel important.
Then even if you played the worst, most dull and lifeless music imaginable,
they would still come back for the sense of community. I hope I didn't stray
too far from your original point.

Steve

"Let there be peace on earth, and let it begin with me"
From: marshall1198@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: OPEN DISCUSSION:     JAG
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:03:21 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Change of subject!!!!   Tell me EVERYTHING anyone knows about JAG, and what you
all think of the "Fire In The Temple" album.  You can also talk about the other
albums too though!!!

Thanks all!
Evan
From: st0o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Steven Timm)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Album Review:  Mylon Lefevre, "Faith, Hope, and Love"
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:48:54 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

(Not related to the Kings X song of the same name)

This is the first Mylon Lefevre album that has not included Broken Heart,
which was his band of 11 years.  The album features "Mylon Lefevre and
Friends" and tells us who the friends are (Michael W. Smith, Stephen
Curtis
Chapman, 4Him, Ricky Skaggs, Michael English, and Carman) but not
on which songs each one of them sings (although I'm pretty sure I 
can pick out Michael W. Smith on "Closer Than a Friend."

In addition there is a new band on this album.  The best way to describe
it is the soft stuff that Mylon has always done well but never
specialized in.  Think of "Shower The People" from his album "Crank It
Up" and then 
you have an idea what this whole album is like.

If I'm not mistaken, Mylon has had some heart surgery within the past year.
This could be why the album is full of references to healing, including
healing broken hearts--referring literally and physically to his own heart.
Included in this are "Faithful", "Give Thanks"  (cover of an old praise song)
"Invincible Love", "Holy Is The Lord", and "Humble Yourself" (another
old standby).

The album is produced by Scott Allen with Mylon and released on Star Song.

Steve's rating:  Three thistles on a scale of -5 to 5
From: 00amelmore@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Petra Concert
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:06:29 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1992Nov14.162727.11901@bsu-ucs>, 00mkmcculler@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
> 
> 
> Petra Concert SHORT review
> 
> Date:  November 13, 1992
> Place:  Reardon Auditorium, Anderson University
> 	Anderson, Indiana
> 
> Opening band:  Rhythm House
> 	To be painfully honest, I'm being kind to call these guys mediocre. 
> The music was too 'funky' in style, I felt like I was in the late
> seventies/early eighties not the nineties (apologies to those who like those
> years in music :).  The drums and guitars showed no variation or creativity,
> just the same thing over and over.  The keyboards weren't bad, but they weren't
> noticeably good, either.  I have no idea about the lead singer, I couldn't hear
> a word he was singing.  They're greatest asset was that played a really short
> set.
> 
> Petra:
> 		AWESOME!!!!!!
> 
> sounded like there were a few sound system problems on the first couple songs,
> but no serious problems.  I was just a little disappointed that they didn't
> play anything from before _On_Fire_ and that they only played one of their
> slower songs.  But the energy level was great!!!!!  The quality was great!!! 
> And more importantly, of course, you definitely KNEW that they were praising
> God!!!!!!
> 
> Forever a Petra fan...
> 
> Meghan K. McCullers
> 00mkmcculler@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
> 
> I wish I had a sig....:)
>  

I attended the concert along with Meghan, and I just wanted to reinforce
what she had to say about it.  This was my first ever Christian concert, and
it was definitely the most powerful show I've seen.

Rhythm House, I'm not being kind, totally sucked!  I knew as soon as they came
on they would not be too cool.  Very funky, couldn't hear a word sung, and the
lead singer thought he was just the most.  Needless to say, I was unimpressed
with this band.  I actually doubted Meghan's credibility after seeing them
perform.

Petra came on and I was just overwhelmed.  They were so powerful, the songs
were actually Christian songs, and the crowd was behind them 100%!  Their
witnessing ability hit me like a brick wall.  It's the first time I've seen
people walk out of an event a Christian when they walked in a nonbeliever.  It
was also amazing how many people got up to recommit themselves to Christ.

I wanna thank Meghan for inviting me, and encourage all who can check them out
to definitely do so!!!  

Anita M. Elmore
00AMELMORE@virgo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Re: Pad Thai
Keywords: One Bad Pig
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:51:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.033033.3498@Princeton.EDU> adgoetz@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Andrew David Goetz) writes:
>Anyone out there have any idea what the words Pad Thai mean?  This 
>is a song by One Bad Pig, and I am extremely interested in what 
>this means.  The whole song goes as such:
>
>When my brain starts to fry...
>it time to go and get Pad Thai
>Pad Thai
>Pad Thai
>Pad Thai 

Imagine a Deep DEEP Southerner trying to pronounce a certain French
gourmet dish with goose liver in it...

>
>I origonatly thought it may be Greek, but I'm not sure.  Thanks alot!!!
>
>
>"Sometimes I thank G-d/for unanswered prayer."
>				-- Garth Brooks
>
>adg
>
>


Phil

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From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: TANGENT (Re: What do you do when your child ...)
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:24:27 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Nov16.234434.27507@gtech.com> caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White) writes:

>I've brought this up before, too, but what constitutes Good art/bad art?
>I'm with Tolstoy on his universality theroy, namely, that the more effort
>or education that is required to appreciate a piece of art, the less
>likely it is that it is art. 

(Overheard in art museum)

MAN:	What the *^#&! is this supposed to be?
WOMAN:	It's from Africa, dear.
MAN:	Well, that explains it.

I'm not with Tolstoy on this one, not by a long shot.  "Dallas" crosses
cultural and educational boundaries like gangbusters; so does Madonna (I
once had a discussion in a remote Nepalese town with an innkeeper who was
enthralled with her).  I might accept that they are examples of art in
the popular sense, but I wouldn't hold them in higher esteem than
Shakespeare or Handel's Messiah just because they're more easily
accessible.    

>Therefore, since Shakespear
>doesn't translate well and requires a bit of effort to understand, it
>needs to be *that much better* to be considered on par with something 
>that does. 

Like, say, "Beverly Hills 90120"?



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From: thomas@mvac23.UUCP (Thomas Lapp)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: America (was Re: Rachel, Rachel)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 18:07:47 EST
Organization: MultiVac23, Newark, DE, U.S.A.

iba@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Wayne Iba) writes:

> Finally, it is a shame that Kansas' music deteriorated after they became
> popular and also after several became christians.

This made me think of another story I heard once.  I'd be interested
in knowing if there is any truth to it, or whether it is just an
Urban Legend.  I want to say I heard it from an interview with
one of the original band members, but I cannot recall now if it
was or not.

Here's the story.  The rock group America were Christians at first
and prayed that if God would make them famous, they would use their
fame to spread His word.  Sure enough, their popularity increased
and at first they did stay true to their prayer.  However, as
popularity increased even more and they become very well known,
they forgot about their promise to God and just looked toward
themselves as the source of their fame.  But then, God also
saw that they broke their promise, and soon after their fame
and fortune took a turn downhill and they fell into obscurity
once again.

Anyone else here this?
                         - tom
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From: Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Crisis Update
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:09:09 GMT


For those of you who thought I flaked, when I had my friend Doug post that
message for me, well, I did for a while.  Things are bad, though, this
weekend I will be talking to the parties involved to make things easier
bill paying wise.  Keep me in prayer, though!

Now, we may all resume our regularly scheduled stuff..

Phil

PS: PRaise God! I can POST!!!!!!!

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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: mooras@crockett1b.its.rpi.edu (Steve 'War Axe' Mooradian)
Subject: Re: TANGENT: Re: "We Will Stand" stolen by Clinton
Reply-To: mooras@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:48:10 GMT

All right. all right. all right.
HELLO! Hello? ..... Is anybody there?

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Have I got averybody's attention? Well...... listen up!

	Everytime someone comments on on anything anymore they forget the points originally raised. All right, now myself and a few others displayed mild disgust at the Word of God being used as a tool for political satire. I haven't seen anyone disagree with the actual political satire itself, only the vehicle poorly chosen to convey it. 
	Now here's the thing that ticks me off. Everyone so far who defends this 'humorous' article keeps blabbing about Republicans and Clinton and satire and this and that. I say "WHAT THE HECK ARE YOU YAPPIN' ABOUT?" The point is the Bible was mocked so Republican Christians could be mocked. This is blatently wrong, and so far noone has justified (and never will) the Word slicing that was done to the Bible. 
	Why can't some of you understand that we're not talking about the political satire, we're talking about the political satire's vehicle! GET IT THROUGH THOSE THICK COMPUTER DAZED HEADS OF YOURS!!!!!!!!!!!!!

	Now, NO MORE!!!!! NO MORE POLITICS IN THIS SUB!!!!!!!!! If you want to talk politics go somewhere else. The point about Clinton stealing a Christian song has long, LONG, *LONG* left *this* discussion, SO GIVE IT UP PEOPLE!!!!

<<<STEVE>>>
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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: cb23209@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Christopher Buchholz )
Subject: what is going on?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:37:30 GMT

why don't any of my posts ever show up!!!!!!!!???????

just wait, this one will and everyone will think i'm crazy..

well, I think I should say something about christian music....
oh well, everyone listen to global WAVE system.
(oh wait, I forgot we're banned.)


chris

Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: stehman@hubcap.clemson.edu (Jeff Stehman)
Subject: Re: TANGENT: Re: "We Will Stand" stolen by Clinton
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:00:57 GMT

swansond@nextnet.csus.edu (Dennis Swanson) writes:

>In article <0qx172p@rpi.edu> mooras@rpi.edu writes:
>>[...]
>>The point is the Bible was mocked so Republican Christians could be mocked.
>>This is blatently wrong, and so far noone has justified (and never will) the
>>Word slicing that was done to the Bible. 
>>[...]

>Exactly.


!Exactly.

				Jeff Stehman
From: urmvance@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: L.S. Underground and stuff
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:17:31 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <rhine.721809408@cwis>, rhine@cwis.unomaha.edu (Dan J. Richters) writes:
> Ive just entered this world of computers and telephones and havnt heard
> much about
> 
> L.S. Underground and stuff
> 
> 		like that

EXCELLENT CHOICE!!!

Since _The_Grape_Prophet_ is my 1st LSUnderground tape... Let's talk 'bout IT!

What a phenomenal tape! The whole story is most excellent. Have you heard/read
the whole Kansas City prophet story that this is based on?  Please say, you
have, cuz the newspaper that explains it all so well, I have loaned out. And
the music is so different from anything. Michael Knott is really a music
genius, as I have drawn from this album and _Screaming_Brittle_Siren_. I love
the cello/violin stuff in there. Amazing.

> I must point out right now that im not a groupeeeee, but i am really encouraged
> 			by their music 
> 		and many Blonde Vinyl artists

Did you get the Blonde Vinyl _Teaser_II-Food_For_Thought_? Not that you don't
probably know all the songs on it, but they also said the insert would be
autographed by all the artists. I've gotten my tape, but they said the insert
was yet to come, and I was wonderin' if anybody had got their's yet.

> Id really like to type some more about other artists that influence me
> 				but
> i will just list them for your perusal (havent you noticed that 
> when people write things on the network they sound really intelligent
> and witty? it must be the "literate" aspect of the compsing nature)
> 
> my list(forgetting things, of coarse)
> 
> 	LS Underground
> 	Breakfast with Amy
> 	Plague of Ethyls
> 	Scaterd Few 
> 	Black and White world
> 	The Throes
> 	Sass O Frass Tunic
> 	Fluffy
> 	The Prayer Chain
> 	the violet burning
> 	Rasberry Jam
> 	Melodramatic Wallflowers
> 	Dig Hay Zoose
> 	Over the Rhine

I see you like much the same as I. (???) Isn't that new Plague of Ethyls
great!!! Some songs I really like despite not understanding them, like
"Weasel". I nonetheless find myself chanting "Don't kick the weasel, cuz the
weasel isn't bad / Put the black, black hat on the crooked, crooked back."

Also, what are the albums by Rasberry Jam and Melodramatic Wallflowers like?
I've seen them advertised for quite a while, and thought "Hey, that sounds
cool," but have never seen a demo to listen to. WELL???...
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From: hill@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Hill)
Subject: Re: What do you do when your child thinks Metallica is cool?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:53:38 GMT

In article <nestabro.721661764@nova> nestabro@nova.gmi.edu (Noel Estabrook) writes:
>I don't think it's individual at all.  God told us what is worldly in his
>Word.  If millions of people in the world hold something in high esteem,
>there's a good  chance it's not of God (since the world doesn't appreciate
>the things which are of God).

"Duh, gee, Noel, wait a minnit here.  I mean, doesn't the world also love
Madonna's new book?"

Ooops - um, er, ah, never mind!

:^>  :^>

			--Michael

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