HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Whut? Thee .Sig File (Re: FLEX & Mad Cobra)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:41:25 GMT

cllave01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>>
>>CURT
>>"the 'ville, all the way to the NCAA! '80, '86 Denny Crum
>>a true Living Legend!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Legend?  Mr. "They're only here to play basketball?"  Please.  He ain't done
jack squat since '86, and the way he operates, I hope he never does.

Of course, it's hard to say which is worse: Cliff Rozier in a UNC uniform or
Cliff Rozier in a Louisville uniform.

GO HOOSIERS! NEW ORLEANS BOUND! WOOF WOOF!

Now back to your regularly scheduled hip hop, already in progress...

-- 
- David J. --------------------------- *Coming in 1993:                      *
- Blue Riddle Productions ------------ *RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE *
- dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ----- *David J.'s debut 12" single          *
- Sports Editor/Indiana Daily Stupid - *ON VINYL from Blue Riddle Productions*
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Subject: Re: ROXANNE SHANTE
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:44:47 GMT

I dont have Shante's latest, and Ive hesitated to buy anything by her because
honey's voice is soo annoying!! Yeah, she's fly and all that, but its not like
if when I play her tape she is going to appear and start flowing in person, ya
know?? Anyway, I heard Grand Daddy IU wrote the lyrics to that song where she
disses all the females in the rap bizniz...anybody know what happened to *his*
career?? I  hesitated to buy his album, but I picked it up when I saw the CD
for $2.99(Im a sucka for a sale) and it was kinda cool...That girl that sang
on his "Sugar Free" should try to get herself a record deal! So many divas out
there waste their time being backups for rappers(NO, IM NOT DISSING RAP!!) when
they could be in the forefront on their own!...And that honey thats singing on
Marky Marks song(what a waste of a great voice!!), also Penny Ford(Snap) all
of these sistas need to go solo...

                                                          RJ
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 23 Nov 1992 11:36:42 CST
From: Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: What's the hype about +K?

I keep hearing how Positive K's this and how Positive K's that, and I just
don't see it.  After hearing "I'm Not Having It", "Midnight Shift" and "I Got A
Man", my opinion is that Positive is highly overrated.  I just want to know why
do people make such a big deal over him?  Does he display better skills on
songs that don't get played on the radio?  Enquiring Minds Wanna Know...

Peace.
From: kgatlin@zeus.calpoly.edu (Kang Su Gatlin)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Ice Cube, Wicked is whack!
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:43:47 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

In article <1992Nov21.221226.15177@news2.cis.umn.edu> mmoore@staff.tc.umn.edu ("None of ya Bizness") writes:
>In article <ISBELL.92Nov12123403@panther.ai.mit.edu> isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell) writes:
>$Really?  I thought Wicked was all that and a slice of government
>$cheese, myself.
>
>I thought it was raw too.  If it didn't have that STUPID ASS reggae shit in
>the background, it'd be top notch.  Somebody need to light dudes ass
>up, flame on...till that jheri curl is gone.
>
>
>-- 
>Malcolm Diallo Moore, CIS-Univ. of Minn.                mmoore@staff.tc.umn.edu
>				            	    moor0009@student.tc.umn.edu
>"Aww, nigga! You know you all that and a          malcolm@mermaid.micro.umn.edu
>	bowl o' grits!!"  - Ice Cube       

I got a question for all ya'll with the 12" of Wicked.  Is the song on the B
side not on the CD album.  I've heard the B-side of it features samples from
Envogue or somethin' like that.  I've heard nothing of the sort on the
album.  Could somebody verify or counterverify this.  Thanks
Peace -> KSG
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: gyzmo@sdf.lonestar.org (Jared Rogers)
Subject: BEASTiE BOYS
Organization: sdf full-shell Public Access Unix - Dallas, TX - 214/436-3281
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:31:45 GMT
From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: pIN The Tail On The Honky (Ice Cube/Lenchmob)
Date: 19 Nov 92 06:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <XJAM.92Nov18152703@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU>, xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer) writes...
>>>>>> "Amil" == Amil  <v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu> writes:
>  Amil> 	Did anyone read the article about the Lenchmob in this months
>  Amil> SOURCE mag?  In an interview they talk about a song which the record
>  Amil> company made them cut out called "Pin The Tail on The Honky".  They
>  Amil> were gonna call the entire album that, too.  But they had to settle for
>  Amil> it to be released as a b-side to a single.  
> 
>  Amil> 	I dont care what anyones feeling are towards the song or its title,
>  Amil> that is a form of censorship, which we are beginning to see more and more
>  Amil> of since "Cop Killer" (Body Count).  Freedom of Speech, juss watch what
>  Amil> you say, I guess, huh?  
> 
>You're confused. There's nothing that says that Cube's record company is
>obligated to distribute all of his material. I'll even bet that when he
>signed his contract (you better believe there was one) there was a clause
>reserving the right to ask for changes, deletions, etc. That's the price
>you pay for getting paid.
> 
>Now if Ice Cube distributed his cut on self pressed records and tapes from
>out the back of the trunk of his car, and his company said "You can't do
>that, this stuff is indecent." then you have censorship.
> 
>The hip-hop community needs to learn this lesson with a quickfast.
>Constantly shouting "CENSORSHIP!" when *somebody else* decides to not
>distribute your stuff is 1) ignorant and 2) creates noise that drowns out
>real cases of censorship.
> 
>You have a right to say whatever you want but not a right to make sure I
>hear it.

	Thats a good point.  True, the record co. has 'final cut' through
the contract, but its still a form of censorship.  Any way you look at
it.  
	But thats not my focus anyway.  Nobodys REALLY cryin censorship
over those incedents...ARE THEY?  No.  Ice Cube isnt complaining.  But
then why write about it?  Why make a big deal about it?

	...BECAUSE it will LEAD to, what you call, "real cases of
censorship".  See, all the warning signs are NOW...we cant come alive
when rap is banned, we have to stop that from happening!  Now.  

	And you seem a little confused, actually.  You should know
that censorship IS DONE by "*somebody else*".  You should look up
the definition.  It fits.  

	But all Im really saying is that unless the hip-hop LISTENERS
speak up...

						aMIL

	"United we stand,
	 Divided we fall."
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: Sade
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:37:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.231327.25208@sbcs.sunysb.edu> rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson) writes:
>To your question about who Sade is, where you been, b?? She's been out for
>years now...This is her 4th album(1st in 3 years, thats what the fuss is 
>about)

Well, It wasn't like I didn't know who Sade was. I was just trying to figure
out the reason for all the props here.

>Its a smooth, jazzy group with a female vocalist named Sade Adu...their sound
>is a stripped down, slow, sometimes funky drum beat, guitars, a real stripped
>down sound..its hard to explain, but she's sold *millions* of records world-
>wide....I guess the best thing I can tell you is to watch the show on Saturday,
>even though I must say that her live performances dont pack the punch that the
>sound on her recordings does, check it out...

I suppose I'll have to.  I ain't heard much beyond the singles she used to
drop however many years ago.

>                                                                 RJ
-- 
- David J. --------------------------- *Coming in 1993:                      *
- Blue Riddle Productions ------------ *RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE *
- dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ----- *David J.'s debut 12" single          *
- Sports Editor/Indiana Daily Stupid - *ON VINYL from Blue Riddle Productions*
From: rojohnso@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (Ronald Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Ice-T
Date: 22 Nov 92 23:10:36 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook

Hey...

I just read on the list that the soundtrack to Tresspass(The Ice Cube/Ice T 
movie) was dropping this week...does anyone know what artists are supposed to 
be on it?? Can we expect new material from Cube an T(other than the tracks
that are supposed to be on their latest efforts)??


                                                                   RJ
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: c60a-lj@danube.Berkeley.EDU (LAB ASSISTANT)
Subject: Re: House of Pain
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:22:10 GMT

robertk@rkrajewski.lotus.com (Robert Krajewski) writes:

>In article <1992Nov18.191805.26161@ultb.isc.rit.edu> klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92) writes:

>   >Damn, is it me or does Everlast look NOTHING like he looked like when he
>   >put out his solo album?  I mean, for the longest time, I thought that 
>   >Everlast was Danny Boy by the video and album cover -- since when did
>   >he have red hair?
>   >
>   >				--RAS--
>   >


>   Nah, he don't look like he looked when he had his solo album out.  As far as
>   red hair, either you or I need to adjust the color on our tele set.  :)

>I think there's a phrase for how Everlast got this new look:

>	Gone to seed...

Ay, My man may have changed his style for the HOP, but I still have to say that
HOP gets phat, jelly donut props for this one.  We finally got a group who 
drop true -- I mean, they gots no probs being white, they stay true to their
style, unlike Serch and Marky Mark who just copy black style and roll with
black possies and show nothing new.  HOP drops true like Boo-Yaa....

				---RAS---
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: bbe001@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Re: Phife Dog
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:27:54 GMT

In article <By5KE3.1G2@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
(The black guy.) writes 
>>        I guess everyone has their own opinion, but I love that line, it
>>finishes up first rhyme he busts in the song perfectly
> again, gotta agree. did-dogs been in there from the start.  anyway, you
> don't worry about the rap too much anyway, 'cause quest is so hard, it
> doesn't matter (kind of like jimmy hendricks; he cant sing to save his

Or even Jimi Hendrix. :)

> life, but some of his stuff is just dope! (no pun intended))
>>                                                   
>>                                                Peace,
>>
>>                                                        John
> shalom,
> jon, the anointed nubian

Now that we've started the Phife-dawg thread, WHAT ABOUT JAROBI (sp?)???
I saw ATCQ on Video Soul, or whatever show comes on after Rap City on BET, and
they said Jarobi was doing a solo effort thing, and he would be back on their
third album, called 'Midnight Marauders.' Does anyone have anymore info on
this? 

"Rastaman is a peaceful man/Jah know don't trouble no one/show respect to
evryone/as he trod on through this land" -Black Uhuru, Ironstorm

Mine's bigger,
B............E
 
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Subject: Re: Jackson Five
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:52:10 GMT

In article <BxxDy0.Iqp@unix.amherst.edu>, hjwulfso@unix.amherst.edu (Harris Wulfson) writes:
>
>Man! I got all excited when I saw the title of this thread! So where's
>the beef? Were you going to talk about Jackson Five samples, like the
>"I Want You Back" loop on Kriss Kross's "Jump". Or "ABC 123" On 
>Naughty by Nature's "OPP?"  How 'bout it?
>
>--
>Harris Wulfson
>hjwulfson@amherst.edu

What was the "I Want You Back" loop on "Jump"?  I remember a loop throughout
the song, but I thought that was a "Funky Worm" loop.  The Jackson 5 do have a
LOT of stuff with sampling potential though.

K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
From: v065nlpz@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Amil)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Malcolm X: The movie
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:52:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92319.17435534LI4E6@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>, 34LI4E6@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (Madison J. Gray) writes...
> 
>     The Spike Lee directed film will be released nationally Wed. Nov 18. The
>film was made from a James Baldwin written script that was based on "The Auto-
>biography of Malcolm X (As Told To Alex Haley)."


	Not a big deal, but James Baldwin wrote the screenplay 10 years
ago as a book (available in book stores, and called "When The Chicken
Comes Home to Roost").  It was based on HIS OWN ideas, accounts, and 
knowledge of Malcolm. 
	The script for _Malcolm X_ was written by Spike Lee BASED ON
the Baldwin script and Alex Haley's book and many other sources, including
family members.  
	People find that very important because, ultimately, if the movie
does not do justice to Malcolm's life, Spike is to blame,  NOT Baldwin
or whoever.
	I really hope the movie is what Spike says..."a masterpiece".
	
	As a film student I had the opportunity to work at 40 Acres and
a Mule (Spike's production co.) in Brooklyn as an intern this past 
summer.  The movie really looks great.  I saw it get edited, and saw the
soundtrack get put on, etc. etc., and I have to tell you this:

    ...the film opens with a voice-over of one of Malcolm's most
famous speaches as we see the Rodney King beating footage intercut 
with an American Flag.  Back and forth, until the flag bursts into
flames, which spread upward, to form an "X"...

							aMIL

		C.O.R.E. in '93
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.)
Subject: Re: new categories
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:24:37 GMT

In article <4f2GnaK00iV1M37LUo@andrew.cmu.edu> Otis Jerome Greene <og22+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>check it-
>
>           for 6 new categories for the hip hop awards, check this out:
>
>                     best EAST COAST rapper-male
>                     best EAST COAST rapper-female
>                     best EAST COAST rap group
>                     best west coast rapper-male
>                     best west coast rapper-female
>                     best west coast rap group
>
>                                                           whaddya think?
>        
>                                                               -og

I think it's pointless. MCs are MCs are MCs. I don't care if they're from 
Kansas if they're dope.

-- 
- David J. --------------------------- *Coming in 1993:                      *
- Blue Riddle Productions ------------ *RAP IS AN ART/TURN UP THE MICROPHONE *
- dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ----- *David J.'s debut 12" single          *
- Sports Editor/Indiana Daily Stupid - *ON VINYL from Blue Riddle Productions*
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 17 Nov 1992 09:07:13 CST
From: Tyrone Ellison <U14864@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Malcolm X Soundtrack...

I need some help... I was in my boy's ride, and he turned to the Hip Hop
station... when he tuned in, I heard Ice Cube's voice, but the lyrics were not
anything from "The Predator"... then, I heard a few voices I didn't recognize,
then I heard Grand Puba's voice and MMG... The track was phat, and it featured
samples from Malcolm X speeches... I was wondering if anyone else heard this,
and if it's going to be featured on the Malcolm X soundtrack.  Any info will be
appreciated.  See ya at tha movies...

Peace out,

The Minister of Rage, Gifted Underworld Executioner
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: balbondj@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Dah Man)
Subject: Re: My two cents
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:52:29 GMT

Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed) writes:

>Just another song to add to the funky drummer list, "Hippy Chick." The
>group name escapes me at the moment.

  The group is called Soho.  I think it has one of the best beats for a 
  non-hip hop song.

           -Dah Man-
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: pIN The Tail On The Honky (Ice Cube/Lenchmob)
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:37:10 GMT
	<1992Nov20.181139.383@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
	<XJAM.92Nov22135612@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU>
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: panther.ai.mit.edu
In-reply-to: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU's message of 22 Nov 92 13:56:12

Censorship does *not* require a govt; therefore, WB is practicing
censorship by not allowing Cube to put down the tracks his wishes
because they find "the content to be objectionable."

This does not make their actions illegal or unethical or the type of
censorship we would consider Bad(tm), but it *is* censorship.

I see this as a trend at WB, extending as well to their lame
objections to _Malcolm X_ and I'm becoming increasingly annoyed with
them.

--
Peace.
       "I not going to focus on what I have done in the past
        what I stand for, what I articulate to the American people.
        The American people will judge me on what I am saying and what I
        have done in the last 12 years in the Congress."
                        -- Vice President Dan Quayle
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-
Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: hjwulfso@unix.amherst.edu (Harris Wulfson)
Subject: Re: Malcolm X soundtrack (was Re: Whatever happened to....)
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:50:23 GMT

Masud Khan (mas@Cadence.COM) wrote:

} music I think they are Hypocrites and are full of shit just like
} 5%, BN's, Ansars etc.. White man is the devil and all that
} but PE are down with white "devils" like U2 Sisters of Mercy
} and Anthrax they're asses are ownned by Jews (Def Jam) and
} Chuck wears a Crucifix, and Flavor smokes dope and drinks Buds.
} 
"Anti semetic but who ownes your company" All Terrain Infidel Killers (A.T.I.K)
} 

EXUSE ME? Sure, Sony distributes Def Jam, but isn't it owned by Russel Simmons?
Also, are you saying that PE is not anti-semitic enough for you?
Is PE not racist enough for you? 
     

} Asalaam-u-alay-kum to my Muslim Brothers and Sisters
}  ^^^^^^
} and Peace to all
} 
} Mas

And Shalom to you...

--
Harris Wulfson
hjwulfson@amherst.edu
From: d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: The Predator
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:28:03 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92) writes:
ZAPP>
>thing that I thought was kind of cheesy was that on one track, he re-used the
>lyrics he used on the "Get The Fist" 12".  Other than that, I was quite pleased
                        ================
Best "posse" cut?


>K-Mello


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Newsgroups: alt.rap
From: sl313028@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (The black guy.)
Subject: Re: Why is there an alt.fan.run-dmc??
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:02:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.175741.29803@ultb.isc.rit.edu> klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>In article <92323.142244IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, <IO20738@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> writes:
>>Could any Run DMC discusion be posted in this group.
>>Just wondering.......
>
>
>Yeah, it probably could, unless maybe it was something about their personal
>lives that people here might want to know, but may have nothing to do with
>their music.  I can't see a whole newsgroup for it though.  I can't see very
>many posts a week about Run-DMC.  There are a lot of newsgroups though that
>dont merit a need, look at the titles of some of the new groups found when you
>get onto the net?  Shit like alt.my.dog.has.fleas (exaggerated example)!
>
i'ont know, man.  have you seend
alt.buddha.short.fat.guy (discontinued)
and
alt.swedish.chef.bork.bork.bork (a personal favorite)
?
>
>K-Mello
>SHYGUY Productions '92
jon the anointed nubian
From: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (K-Mello SGP '92)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Prince Markie Dee
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:56:56 GMT
Reply-To: klm3298@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

Does anyone have his album?   Remember him of Fat Boys fame?  He now has a solo
album out.  I'm skeptical about droppin' my duckets on it because a review of
the album said it was almost all "love songs".  I'm asking this now because the
video was just on on BET for "Tripping Out", the first single off the album,
and I thought this song was kinda cool.  Any info would be appre


K-Mello
SHYGUY Productions '92
From: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
Newsgroups: alt.rap
Subject: Re: Ice-T
Date: 23 Nov 1992 00:50:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bi011@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill King)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) says:

>In article <5631@krafla.rhi.hi.is> Jon Ingi Ingimundarson writes:
>>Greetings,
>>Does anybody know why Ice-T's new cd Home Invasion has been pushed
>>back to Jan. 26?
>>Was this due to some controversy about the material on the album or
>>did Warner Brothers not want to face any heat before Christmas.
>It was the material.  Apparently, Time-Warner wanted Ice to tone some of his
>stuff down, and Ice agreed, God knows why.
>I've got a real beef with these corporate infotainment outlets like Time-
>Warner.  Lately, it seems that the slightest thing that offends some small
>interest group (like Republicans) gets changed to satisfy everyone, and a
>lot of things that need to be said are missing.  Time-Warner is trying too
>hard to avoid controversy, and as a result, a lot of artists' work is going
>to get stifled.  I don't see why Ice-T doesn't just buy out his contract and
>hook up with a smaller company somewhere, so he can drop just what he wants
>to drop.
>- David J. --------------------------- *Coming in 1993:                      *

I have to disagree a little here. Time Warner did not just buckle down
when the Texas police association and others started protesting and
boycotting. I mean, the CEO of Time Warner wrote a letter to the Wall
St. Journal detailing how he was not going to back down. I think his
relationship with them is pretty good.

Also, none of these problems would be solved if Ice-T started his own
record company. People would just protest the stores to not carry
his albums if he said something to piss them off. Unfortunately, there
are gonna be housewives with too much time on their hands who will
write letters and complain to whatever company if they feel that
something is offensive. Not being on the Time-Warner label will not
solve that.
Bill
-- 
Hey, hey champ, was she a "whoo"?  No, she was a "WHOOOOOO!" --Ric Flair