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From: A.M.Addyman@MCS.SALFORD.AC.UK (AMAddyman)
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Subject: Re: remote access to LANs
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:16:00 GMT
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Over the summer we installed an a copy of ICC/DCA's Remote Lan Node using
14.4K bps modems. Unfortunately, we were using a clone with only 8250 chip
COM ports rather than 16550 chip ports. We have now purchased a Hayes ESP
board and will be testing the system out over the next few weeks. Part of
this test will be trying remote CD accessing. I expect performance will
depend on how much data is read from the CD as the index is searched.
Retrieving the records should not have much impact on the phone line. There
are reviews of this produce in a Byte Mag (June92?) and a very recent PC Mag,
where it was compared with two other products.
Tony Addyman
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From:         "D.E. 'Dave' Bloomberg" <BLOOMBER@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Multi-tasking Networked CD's

    Hiya,

    As a satisfied CBIS user, I am not sure that "simultaneous" is
    the correct word.  In concept it allows multiple users access to
    the "SAME" CDROM, BUT each request is handled ONE-AT-A-TIME, not
    simultaneous.  If you use fast enough CDROM players, it seems
    pretty fast.  Is "concurrent" the right word??

    In real terms, if we have 18 workstations on our LAN; and if all 18
    users wanted access to the same database (assuming licenses were
    in place...) at the same time, performance would in theory slow
    down.  However from observation, I don't think we have any more
    than 5 users accessing the same CD at any one time.  CBIS seems
    to work quite well, but you are not using your money well, if you
    don't also invest in some of the newer faster players (IMHO).  We
    have re-used some 20 of our old hitachi's for our less used
    databases; and they do the job....just not as fast as the new
    Texel's.


    Dave Bloomberg
    BLOOMBER@FAUVAX
From: EXTXAABE@UCF1VM.BITNET (Jim Harrington)
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Subject: Remote Control software
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:11:33 GMT
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I would like to hear from institutions who are providing direct
dial-in access to a host on their LAN. We would like to offer this
capability to our students and staff. I have looked at a couple
of programs, but neither seem adequate. Co/Session requires that
both the host and remote computers use the same software. I'm not
sure I can get away with this requirement. PcAnywhere allows the
remote to use any communications software (some work better than
others), but does not keep track of *who* has used the system if
the romote is not using PcAnywhere also. So, I have two questions:

1) What software are other institutions using to provide remote
access to a host on their LAN?

2) How is security handled? We will be assigning passwords to those
who want dial-in access, and I want to be able to track usage. I
may be pessimistic here, but I feel if I provide access somebody
out there will try to do dastardly things to my system.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Jim Harrington
Valencia Community College
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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 10:58:52 EST
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From:         HCLADM08@UCONNVM.BITNET
Subject:      VENDACARDS

Colleagues--

Concerning printing (any type of printer) at the workstation
(stand alone or network):  does anyone have any experience using
"VENDACARDS" or cards that patrons pay to have encoded with a
number of copies?  The scenario: patron puts card in card reader,
issues print command, print is generated, units are deducted from
card.

If anyone has this situation--how well does it work, how long have you
had the system, who is the vendor.  In addition, has anyone ever given
a print commanded and subsequently ejected his card thereby leaving the
next person who puts a card in the reader to pay for a print he doesn't
want?

Thanks in advance for replies!

--
Nick Tomaiuolo, Information Services Librarian
hcladm08@uconnvm.uconn.edu
Univ. of Connecticut Health Center PO Box 4003
Farmington, CT 06034
Fax:   203 679 4046
From: mark@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.cdromlan
Subject: CDUSE Error 114
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:01:17 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Can anyone tell me what the following CBIS CDUSE.EXE error message means:

   ERROR: 114 - Too many redirections.

I was able to redirect 7 local drive letters to cd-rom drives, but when I
attempted to "cduse" the 8th drive, I received this message.  I would REALLY
appreciate any help or suggestions!  

Configuration:  CBIS CD-Connection v2.20
                Novell NetWare v2.15c
                IPX v3.10
                XMSNETX v2.36 

Thank you,
Marty Mark, University of Northern Iowa
mark@iscsvax.uni.edu
319-273-6258
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From:         BMENK@CCR2.BBN.COM
Subject:      Mac access on SCSI Express

We're currently putting together a package to provide CDROM access
over a Novell network (3.11) using SCSI Express.  I don't expect
any particular problems with this for those users on IBM-clones.
The CD's we'd like to make available include Computer Select,
Compact Disclosure, and Wilson Business Abstracts.

My question is concerned with how best to offer access to the
Macintosh platform.  We're examining several possible avenues of
approach to the problem and would like to hear from anyone who has
attempted to solve this problem in a similar setting.

One approach is to buy a 10-user license to SoftPC and put that on
the server so that Macs accessing the network could come in and run
the CD's without having to have a DOS emulator on their client
stations.

Another avenue might be to dump the Mac version on to a large hard
drive and set that up as an alternate spot on the network that Macs
could access - after negotiating the licensing with the vendor of
course.

Does anyone have any other ideas on this problem?  We have ruled
out the Logicraft and Infoserver routes.

I should add that I'm the non-techincal part of the group that's
working on this, so I may have stated our options inadequately for
the technical people out there.  If so, and you need clarification
to help out, I will gladly try to obtain it for you.

Searching the list archives leads me to think that there's been
sufficient interest in the topic of providing Mac access to DOS
resources without resorting to terminal emulation solutions such as
Logicraft's, that it might be worth discussing on the list.
However, if you wish to reply to me off-list, and there are enough
responses, I will gladly summarize for the list.

Thanks in advance for your collective expertise.

_______________________________________________________________________________
Bobb Menk                                               Voice: 617-873-3278
Senior Technical Librarian                              Fax: 617-873-2156
Bolt, Beranek & Newman                                  Internet: bmenk@bbn.com
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:38:00 -0500
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From:         Theodore.Morris@UC.EDU
Subject:      Net Error 053

While we're looking at CBIS CDUSE and CDREDIR error messages (we've
got the SilverPlatter MultiPlatter flavor), what is likely to cause a
Net Error 053 (Abort, Retry, Fail) with this hardware/software
combination on a Novell 3.11 network?

Ted Morris
Univ. Cincinnati
Medical Center Information & Communications
morrista@uc.edu
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From:         VKENAUSIS@FAIR1.BITNET
Subject:      Printers on network

We at Fairfield just brought up a LAN consisting of 5-6 public access
workstations in the Reference area and various staff use terminals.  We are
now in the process of selecting printers for the network.  As it stands now
we have four dedicated ThinkJets on four workstations.  The others do not
have printers.  The discussion has been: do we want to replace these
ThinkJets (they are old and breaking down) with new dedicated DeskJets (or
comparable)?  OR, should we get ONE high-speed laser printer to serve the
entire network?

There is some disagreement and my question is:

        1. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE DEDICATED PRINTERS

        Could you tell me your reasoning behind using dedicated printers as
opposed to network printers and the good/bad aspects?  What kind of
printers are you using?  What is the approximate cost for upkeep for the
printers? Any other information that may be relevant.

        2. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE A NETWORK PRINTER

        How did you make the decision to have a network printer?  How many
workstations are served by one printer?  What kind of printer is it?  Have
there been any problems (i.e., is it confusing for the patrons to pick up
their searches, etc.)?  What is cost of upkeep?  Any other information you
feel like sharing.

Just to give you some reference point, we are running 10 products from our
network, all bibliographic databases except Census information.  Generally
our patrons use more than one database per session and will print from
each.  We are also planning a couple of full-text databases (DiscLit and
Granger's).

Any information or insights that anyone can give me would be extremely
helpful.  Please send responses directly to me and I will summarize for the
list if there is interest.  Thanks in advance for your help.

Veronica Kenausis
vkenausis@fair1.fairfield.edu (INTERNET)
vkenausis@fair1.bitnet (BITNET)

If you prefer to write or call:
Nyselius Library
Fairfield University
Fairfield, CT 06430
203/254-4044 (PHONE)
203/254-4135 (FAX)
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From:         mech@SHRSYS.HSLC.ORG
Subject:      RE: Meridian cdnet cache corruption

   We have been having trouble with just Books in Print on a standalone
 machine.Did you investigate this aspect of the problem?

   We also have a CD-Net/Novell Lan with 6 drives running.  We have all Wilson
Discs.  We have had no problems with any part of the lan since we got it up in
Aug.  But I would be interested to know of any potential danger.  I hadn't heard
Aug.  But I would be interested to know of any potential danger.  I hadn't
 heardof any cache corruption.
From: S_MCNEELY@TWU.BITNET (BONNIE MCNEELY, TWU LIBRARY SYSTEMS)
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Subject: Logicraft
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:19:00 GMT
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In the LAN of CDROM's ---
     Is anyone out there using Logicraft 386/486 ware on a DEC's
VAX system with a CBIS tower????
     I would like to find out more about your configuration.
Thanks for any help you can provide.

Bonnie McNeely
Texas Woman's University
s_mcneely@venus.twu.edu
s_mcneely@twu.bitnet
From: WHITMAN@PURCCVM.BITNET (MARK WHITMAN)
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Subject: Multi-tasking Networked CD's
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:13:28 GMT
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I have recently been told by a number of local people that CBIS offers
a networked solution that allows multiple users simultanous access to the
same CD.  I have always presumed that CD drives were too slow to allow for
this.  Does anyone have any experience with this CBIS solution, and can
anyone give me an explanation of how it works?  Thanks.

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From:         "Chevron Research and Technology Co." <chertlop@CLASS.ORG>
Subject:      Virtual Microsystems

I just discovered this list and I'm unsure if this question has already
been asked/answered.  We are installing the Virtual Microsystems cdrom lan
product.  I would be interested if anyone has any experience with this
product and what applications you have mounted on your network.  Thanks
for any comments you wish to share with me.
Frank Lopez - Chevron
From: bhamilt@TENET.EDU (Betty Dawn Hamilton)
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Subject: Re: Networking EBSCO
Date: 7 Nov 92 01:36:22 GMT
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Please share the information on magazine/CD ROM with the net.  I would
like to see opinions as well. Thanks a bunch!

Betty Hamilton, BMS LMC, Brownfield, TX <bhamilt@tenet.edu>
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From:         elaine <MOORE2@WKYUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Remote Control software

Would like to see replies to this query on the list.  Thanks.













Elaine Moore                       Phone: 502-745-6122
Reference Services Supervisor      FAX: 502-745-5943
University Libraries               Bitnet:moore2@wkyuvm
Western Kentucky University
Bowling Green, KY 42101-3576
From: chrishil@cbis.Gwinnett.COM (Chris Hill)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.cdromlan
Subject: Re: CDUSE Error 114
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 14:20:51 EST
Organization: CBIS, Inc., Norcross, GA, USA

mark@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

> Can anyone tell me what the following CBIS CDUSE.EXE error message means:
> 
>    ERROR: 114 - Too many redirections.
> 
> I was able to redirect 7 local drive letters to cd-rom drives, but when I
> attempted to "cduse" the 8th drive, I received this message.  I would REALLY
> appreciate any help or suggestions!  
> 
> Configuration:  CBIS CD-Connection v2.20
>                 Novell NetWare v2.15c
>                 IPX v3.10
>                 XMSNETX v2.36 
> 
> Thank you,
> Marty Mark, University of Northern Iowa
> mark@iscsvax.uni.edu
> 319-273-6258
> 

XCDREDIR loads with an internal default of 7 connections.  In order to
increase this, load it with the following syntax:

              XCDREDIR /D:x

where x is the number of drives, up to 25


Chris Hill, CBIS                                  chrishil@cbis.gwinnett.com
5875 Peachtree Industrial Blvd.                   Phone: (404)446-1332
Norcross, GA, USA 30092                           FAX: (404)446-9164
From: STEVE@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (Steve Morytko)
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Subject: Access via TCP-IP
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:04:50 GMT
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I am relatively new to this list and I know very little about CDROM
technology but ...

It seems as though there are not many CDROM servers providing access
for TCP-IP users. Most servers seem to be Novell (IPX) based and I
wonder why. Please, correct me if I am wrong. I would like to know how
to the solve the following problem. Please enlighten me (us).

Suppose I want to offer access to CDROM-based materials. Assume I am
the University Library and have a system (pick one) with a bank of CDROM
drives connected to a campus network. Also, as all good libraries do,
we want to offer access to the rest of the world (read Internet).

Most other systems on the network are PC's but there are very large
numbers of Mac's, SUN's, and mainframe-based 3270 terminals. About the
only way almost everyone can get to a host is to Telnet to it. This does
mean that TCP-IP software must be installed on these systems (or they
must have access to a host that does) but that is not a big problem.
Software is readily available for virtually all vendors systems and
PC's, Mac's, SUN's can get it FREE. Also, most users are connected
to a mainframe and have Telnet and FTP access from there.
Sure, IPX is "available" to many platforms but I don't know of any SUN's
running it and I suspect that it would cost them $$ to do it.
So, TCP-IP is the most widely available network protocol for our users.

CDROM vendors want you to buy their server *and* workstation software.
That can cost big bucks and (I believe) not necessarily provide access
for Mac's and SUN's. I suspect that few of them use TCP-IP to access
their servers since I mostly read about Novell-based servers.
Remember, I'm the library and I have to provide access to all patrons
not just the lucky ones with PC's, or running IPX, or ... .

And let's suppose the Pharmacy department buysvendor Y's server and
I'm using vendor X's server software. Do users run package Y for
server Y and package Z for server Z? I cringe at the thought.

Sooooooo, what do I do? Is there a vendor out there to solve these
problems? Where can I get more information?

Excuse me while I ramble through some thoughts.
This makes me think that Telnet should be attractive. Maybe something
similar to news-readers needs to be developed for CD-ROM servers.
If there are Telnet solutions, what functions might be lost.
Maybe graphics can't be done easily? But don't many TCP-IP packages
offer some sort of graphics terminal emulation? The CDROM servers I
have used (only 2) do text searches and don't do any graphics that I
know of.

Vendors could still make money by basing their charges on number
of simultaneous users and they don't have to worry about the
workstation software.

Thanks for any comments or suggestions.

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From: slib1083@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.cdromlan
Subject: RE: Virtual Microsystems
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:51:37 GMT
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

We have had a very productive relationship with Virtual for the past 8 months.
We purchased a Meridian 486 CD-ROM Server with 2 towers (28 drives) and 5
V-Server Gateways from Virtual. They were very supportive during
installation and have continued to be since installation. We are presently
running the following products on the LAN: MLA, PsychLit, ERIC, BIP,UMI's
Periodical Abstracts and Newspaper Abstracts, ABI/Inform, MARCHIVE, Ariculture
and Biological Index, and Science and Technology Index.  Overall, we've been
very happy with Virtual. If I can be any more help just connect me.

Ralph Gabbard
Systems Librarian
Internet  RGABBARD@SELU.EDU
Phone 504-549-3961
From: KSPITZER@SUVM.BITNET (Kathy Spitzer)
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RE:  Networking Magazine Article Summaries

We hope to go to a CDROM network configuration in the near
future and would like to hear from anyone who has successfully
networked Ebsco's Magazine Article Summaries.

Reply to:  Kathy Spitzer KSPITZER@suvm.ACS.SYR.EDU

Thanks,
Kathy Spitzer
Library Media Specialist
North Syracuse Junior High School
5353 W. Taft Rd.
North Syracuse, New York  13212
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Subject: Re: menu system for CD/ROM LAN --question
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Saber Software's address and phone number are:

Saber Software Corp.
P.O. Box 9088
Dallas, TX  75209

(800)338-8754
(214)361-8086 (cute, huh?)

Arne J. Almquist
Assistant to the Director of Libraries for
Networking and Microcomputer Resources
University of N. Texas--Libraries
P.O. Box 5188
Denton, TX  76203-0188

ph. 817/565-3278
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From:         Gloria McClanahan <mcclan@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: your mail

Kathy,

We purchased the Elite version of MAS in May with the intention--as told
to all salespeople at the purchase point--of networking it. The product
DOES NOT NETWORK at this time. The Tech Support line told us not to even
try until an update is sent out at "the end of October." I called them
back today to see where the update was--they said "It's in the mail."
Hm-m-m This computer stuff gets tedious!!

I'll keep you posted.

Gloria
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The perfect thing is Saber Menu.  You can easily set up multiple menus for
different classes of users, OR YOU CAN SET UP A SINGLE MENU AND THEN BLOCK
CHOICES ON THE BASIS OF EQUIPMENT (i.e., display type, amount of free memory),
USER GROUP, USER NAME, ETC.  [caps used for emphasis].

Saber is inexpensive and comes bundled with a number of other network
utilities.  Saber Software is located in Dallas.  Their number is (800)338-8754.
Arne J. Almquist
Assistant to the Director of Libraries for
Networking and Microcomputer Resources
University of N. Texas--Libraries
P.O. Box 5188
Denton, TX  76203-0188

ph. 817/565-3278
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