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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:40:06 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rebellion in Chicago.
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:18:11 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

fbrown@ssd.kodak.com (Frank Brown) writes:

>While watching the highlights of the games yesterday. I saw Ditka go off
>on one of his famous dressdown of a player. Harbaraugh(sp) took it all
>in stride but another player did not want to hear it and told Dikta  "F**K YOU!!" 
>Even though I couldn`t hear it I'm positive that is what he said. It was really easy
>to read his lips. Anybody from the Chicago know what Ditka was bitching
>about and who the player was.  Is he good enough to swear at the coach and
>be back next year? Or will It be Dikta himself who is gone?

The player was OT Stan Thomas. According to Thomas, there was some confusion
about whether Thomas was supposed to be in the game or not - one coach told
him to go in, another told him not to. Somehow, this grew into a shouting
match. Thomas said that it turned out for the best, since he played better
after the arguement and also, he apologized to Ditka after the game. 

Doesn't sound like too big a deal to me. Of course, the media love showing
Ditka acting feisty on the sidelines, so this arguement will make most
high-light shows...
From: lpc4@po.CWRU.Edu (Lawrence P. Colucci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Browns #17
Date: 15 Dec 1992 15:42:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I also agree that Sipe's number shouldn't have been retired - if you
subscribe to that kind of philosophy, Brennan, Slaughter, and
Langhorne's numbers all should have been retired, and we all saw
how eager Belichick was to get someone into number 84 after the
fiasco.  I personally think that Bernie's will be retired if he
plays for another playoff team or two, even if he doesn't take them
to the big game.  Clay Matthews (57) will definately be retired, and
I hope will make it to the hall of fame, but I don't know if he's just
"a Cleveland thing" or highly regarded around the league.
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:40:07 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: offensive statistics, week 15
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:51:51 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX


		       yardage		    rank
team		total	rush	pass	rush	pass
----------------------------------------------------
San Francisco	5497	2138	3359	1	3
Buffalo 	5349	2108	3241	2	4
Houston 	5052	1415	3637	18	1
Miami   	4876	1320	3556	23	2
Dallas  	4817	1746	3071	6	5
Chicago 	4607	1737	2870	7	10
San Diego	4548	1673	2875	8	9
Philadelphia	4385	2031	2354	3	23
New Orleans	4321	1485	2836	15	11
Green Bay	4315	1425	2890	16	8
Pittsburgh	4310	1893	2417	4	20
LA Rams 	4264	1370	2894	20	7
Washington	4231	1510	2721	14	14
Tampa Bay	4223	1549	2674	13	15
Minnesota	4115	1649	2466	9	18
Atlanta 	4085	1148	2937	27	6
NY Jets 	3989	1585	2404	11	21
Phoenix 	3934	1212	2722	26	13
Cleveland	3914	1342	2572	21	16
Denver  	3847	1329	2518	22	17
NY Giants	3839	1793	2046	5	25
LA Raiders	3835	1597	2238	10	24
Detroit 	3814	1371	2443	19	19
Kansas City	3806	1424	2382	17	22
Indianapolis	3704	963	2741	28	12
Cincinnati	3266	1568	1698	12	27
New England	3129	1257	1872	25	26
Seattle 	2794	1298	1496	24	28

----
Daniel Welch
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Cowboys vs Washington
Date: 16 Dec 1992 14:36:25 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu
Summary: Change of subject line !

In article <51652@seismo.CSS.GOV> perez@seismo.CSS.GOV (Ricardo L. Perez) writes:
>In article <1glbohINNc6c@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
 >> It's so easy being humble when your 11-3
 >> 
 >> Go Cowboys !!!!!
 >> tim
 >
 >It is easy to be humble when you're 11-3 and just waiting for
 >the playoffs.  I (hardcore Skins fan) felt the same way last
 >year when we lost to the Eagles at the end of the regular
 >season. So we lost. So what! We played well; no major
 >injuries. We know we can be beat if we don't play well. Though
 >I hate to admit it, the Pokes have a damn good team.  I never
 >thought that they'd be this good so fast after Jimmy took
 >over.  It's gonna be hell whoever plays them in the playoffs.
 >I just hope we make it to that matchup again. The Skins-Cowboy
 >games is the best matchup every year.
 >
 >Rick P.

I agree, win or lose, the Cowboys-Washington games have been some of
the best games of the year, every year. I would hope this will shut
up the talk about realignment in the NFL, it would damage the ratings
for the networks big time. I haven't said this is the Cowboys year
to win it all but they have a shot, next year (IMHO) will most likely
be the year Dallas takes the prize home, they are "very" young.
As for this season, ya I want to see the Skins down in Big D in the 
playoffs, we have some unfinished business to take care of :-)

Peace & Merry Christmas

Go Cowboys !!!!
tim



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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:10:10 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: bonvicin@vxcrna.cern.ch
Subject: Home field in the NFC
Organization: CERN European Lab for Particle Physics
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 22:59:28 GMT

Wuth today's 49ers victory, it seems very likely that the 9ers will be home
thru the playoffs. Last two games are home against lowly Tampa and Detroit.

Watch for Joe (to the guy who posted 80 times "Joe who?", Montana) to start
one more game, Musgrave has been told he is injuried. Likely next week so
that Steve does not get too rusty with three weeks without a game.

As most 9ers fans I know, the Saints are the last team I want to meet.
This year, though, the NFC field is as deep as I have ever seen it, all 
six teams (I assume Philly and 'skins are in) have a shot at the SB.
Does anyone know if the 9ers can have Minnesota in their first home
game? That would be better...

It is possible that the 9ers are not much better this year than last year,
but certainly the breaks they got this year are enough to balance those of
last year. Should home-field turn out to be important (and it may well be),
I guess we can forget what happened lat year.

G. Bonvicini
BONVICIN@CERNVM.CERN.CH
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From: jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 21:11:08 GMT

In <1992Dec19.190922.35540@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>Well, why don't you tell us...  How many times has it happened that the
>#5 and #6 teams both made it all the way through to the championship game??
>What is the probability of it occuring???


answer... never...

i do not believe a wild card team has EVER made it to the superbowl...
this would immediately disqualify a championship game between two
wildcards... but i could be wrong on that... i don't know for sure if
a wild card team has made it to the superbowl... i remember hearing a
couple years ago that no AFC wildcard team has ever made it to the
superbowl... but i am not so sure about the nfc...

jason
From: jmelcher@polisci.umn.edu (James Melcher)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Pack is Getting Closer!
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:44:00 GMT
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

>Hey fellow Packer Backers, let's save the woofing and the Viking flaming until
>after the game in week 17.  We have all seen how all the other woofers have had to
>eat their words.  I would rather Packer fans continue to display the 'class' that
>has been reflected in posts all season long.  Hopefully we will continue to get
>our pleasure from victories on the field and not by belittling other teams fans.

	This motion is seconded by the Packer representative from St. Paul. 
The onfield victories have been plenty satisfying...  I can vouch for 
the fact that I never enjoyed having the numerous Packer losses over the 
last 20 years rubbed in on me- I'm not eager to pour salt in anyone else's 
wounds. Actually, most of the many Viking fans I have known here have always 
been quite gracious to me about the Packers- only the mass media here are 
ever really annoying, and them not all that often. 
	Not that I can blame any of my fellow Packer fans for getting a 
little excited, of course... :-)

Jim Melcher
"I bleed Badger red when I shave"
Wisconsin '85 (and Madison West '81)
Doctoral candidate, Dept. of Political Science
Univ. of Minnesota
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From: 93wang@cua.edu
Subject: Re: Come back instant replay !!!
Keywords: instant replay, fumble
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 05:56:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.002527.21325@wheaton.wheaton.edu>, mcelha@david.wheaton.edu (Geoff McElhanon) writes:
> I don't care what anyone says.  Washington did not win, Dallas did not lose.
> They got robbed.

 [ stuff deleted]
                                              
First of all, it was Dallas who voted against instant replay.

I had seen the play about 10 times.  It appeared to me Aikman did
hold the ball back before he lost the ball, and he admitted it afterwards.
Smith's fumble is too close to call.

Bo
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From: sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Eric Sybesma)
Subject: Re: The Packers Should Simply Make the Playoff Over the Vikings
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 23:03:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.200430.2922@cnsvax.uwec.edu> falknemj@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
>I've been a Viking fan since the Super Bowl days of Fran Tarkenton, Chuck
So have I.

>The Vikings can't beat playoff caliber teams, the Packers can, especially in
Can't, or haven't?

>winning 6 of their last 7 or so.  A Viking playoff game in the Dome would be

	The way I look at it (writing this before the Steeler game),  if
the game does come down to the last game of the season, it will decide
who deserves to go to the playoffs.  The Vikings are, in a sense, already
in the playoffs, and tomorrow will determine whether those playoffs start
in the last week of the regular season, or in the Division-wildcard game.
If the Vikes do get 10 wins on the season, I think they have earned the
playoffs.  If they back in, well..those are the rules.

es

-- 
Eric Sybesma                                    sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
"Harbaugh back to throw, screen to Anderson, and it's PICKED off by
 Todd Scott at the 30..25..20..10.  TOUCHDOWN VIKINGS!!!"
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Miami/L.A.
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:19:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.203437.12658@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>, q2dt@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Turner) writes:
> 
> 	Haven't heard much in this group about MNF tonight.  Miami vs.
> L.A. Raiders at Joe Robbie.   L.A. always plays Miami tough.  Both teams 
> traditionally do well on MNF.  Both teams are looking for a playoff spot.
> They played in Miami in 1990 on MNF: L.A. 13, Miami 10.  
> Any predictions?  Miami has the best offence in the league on paper.  
> However, it is in a complete shambles.  Duper and Clayton look like 
> school boys out there.  Keith Jackson alternates between trying to do 
> too much (e.g. his "fumble" against S.F.) and celebrating three yard 
> gains like the winning catch in the Super Bowl.  


The Ducks are the type of physical team that gives Miami trouble. 
LA has the size advantage in the trenches, the offensive and defensive lines. 
On top of that they have taken a physical pounding two weeks straight against
two top nothc NFC teams, New Orleans and SF. 

Only Marino can keep the Dolphins in the game. Miami is a 6 pt favorite. I 
think that the line is inflated, and the Ducks can cover easily and can 
even win the game outright. 






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| Prashanth                    |                      |
| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@raman.ucsd.edu |
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From: exuwry@exu.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Play of the Day (Skins/Dallas)
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:19:39 GMT
Reply-To: exuwry@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson TX
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article 13DEC199223525873@hades.stsci.edu, merrill@hades.stsci.edu (Clark) writes:
>I have a few points I would like to make about the AIKMAN fumble for a
>Redskins TOUCHDOWN!  By the way I am a Redskins fan:-)
>
>1.  I  think it was a fumble,  His arm  was going forward, but I thought
>    he was pumping it, and he started the ball back in control.  I would
>    really like  to see it from the other side of the field.  He sure acted
>    like it was a fumble when it came loose!
>
>    I would find it amazing if he could be throwing the ball and have it
>    come back the other direction still in contact with his hand.  I don't
>    think it ever left his hand, but like I said I want  to see it from
>    the other side of the field so we can see what was happening when the
>    ball actually came out of his hand!
>
>    I could  still be convinced it was an incomplete pass, but I  want  to
>    see a replay from the other side!  No amount of insane babble from the
>    Dallas fans on the net is going to convince me, I just want to see it
>    from another angle.

Actually, I was convinced it was a fumble until I saw the 10 o'clock news
down here.  The sports reporter wondered why CBS never showed a reverse angle.
The reserve angle showed that the ball left his hand and hit the defensive
players helmet and just happened to follow Aikman's hand back.  Heck, the
Cowboys better not complain though, owner Jerry Jones, voted against and
campaigned against instant replay.  

The Cowboys dominated the stats but failed to score more points.  Too many
rookie mistakes for a team supposed to be gaining experience.
From: greg@redeye.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: WASHINGTON SUCKS SHIT!!!
Date: 15 Dec 1992 05:55:50 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: redeye.ebay.sun.com

In article <1992Dec14.224951.7252@nmsu.edu> wlittle@dante.nmsu.edu (Wes) writes:
[...]
>
>I admit it....but I just hate to see the best team lose on a fucked up
>Call.!!  Flame away all you shit head Redskin fans because you know in
>your heart who the better team is...and it will be proven in the
>Playoffs!! You also know in your heart that that call was
>BULLSHIT@!!@@!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>Wes


Hey, asshole, what was the final score?

The best team won the game !!!!!

Enough said,

Greg
From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Butler and the Pack
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:00:43 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <3539@carroll1.cc.edu> jpwieske@carroll1.cc.edu (JP Wieske) writes:
>I guess I want to clear up discussion about the LeRoy Butler Incident.

You gotta be kidding!!! 

>First accorging to papers here, butler and Adre Ware are friends.
>Butler did not knock Andre Ware down, to the best of my memory, he remained
>standing. (Andre Ware implied this in an interview)
>After the game, Butler apologized to Ware and to Wayne Fonts. Monday morning
>he faxed apology letters to Fonts and Ware. Ware said he didn't even remember 
>the incident after the game.
>It is an isolated incident in Butler's career. In his 3 years in the NFL hes
					 	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ahem.. Butler is a rookie! 

>I think given his actions, the suspension and fine may have been a little strong
>he regrets that play, and seems to generally feel bad about what he did.
>Butler was a person used as an example. The punishment is justifiable, I guess.
>Particularly if you ignore intentions.

And just what intentions can there be for firing a forearm to someone's head? 
-- 
Ronnie
-------------------------------------------------------------
I'm not cynical... I just don't believe in anything....
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: HOW BOUT EM!!
Keywords: nowworshipmoranow
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:41:12 GMT
Organization: .

(Michael Zimmers) writes:
>
>Why root for a team that's still a postseason virgin?

WHY ASK WHY?
Geaux Saints!!!

--J.J.
(brucesmithroolz)
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From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Re: Saints/Bills This Sunday
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:27:31 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Gimmie DA Bills, NO has a really great defense but the offense not so great
the Bills D is just now at their prime. The Bills offense will score just enough to win !!! I just hope Kelly stays healthy

(I know e-mail you my drugs)


Bills 20
Saints 17
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