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From: david@ittpub.nl (David P. Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Ethernet address (sans code) ?
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:57:07 WET+0100
Organization: ITT Publitec R+D BV, Amsterdam

In article <1993Jan11.212842.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu>, fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu writes:
> In article <1993Jan11.202015.79@ittpub.nl>, david@ittpub.nl (David P. Morgan) writes:
>> 
>> How can one find out the Ethernet address of a node ?
>> 
>> It's VMS 5.5. I know you can do it with a little bit of code and that's
>> straightforward but how can you do it with NCP, for instance ?
> 
>     $ MC NCP SHOW NODE <node_name> CHARACTERISTICS
> 
>     Look for the line starting "Hardware address" in the output.

it doesn't work on the executor node, of course

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From: rkoehler@author.gsfc.nasa.gov (Bob Koehler)
Subject: Re: How to mount ISO and HSG CD-ROM's on (Open)VMS?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: CSC System Sciences Division
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:03:00 GMT

In article <7BO0SNI@netmbx.netmbx.de>, weis@netmbx.netmbx.de (Dietmar Weis) writes...
>In Ultrix you have to specify a kernel option and a pseudo-device
>in order to mount those CD's. But how can I do it on VAX/VMS and
>AXP/OpenVMS?
>MOUNT/FOREIGN of course does not work.
> 
>Thank you very much.
>Dietmar

Prior to VMS 6.0, the ACP for mounting these CDs ships only in the Infoserver
kit, if you have the Infoserver kit look for something like F11CD.  The mount
command will probably require the /PROCESSOR=filespec qualifier to choose the
correct ACP.  6.0 is supposed to ship with the ACP "in there", i.e. you won't
need the Infoserver kit.

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Bob Koehler                     |   Any illusion to these opinions being other
rkoehler@author.gsfc.nasa.gov   |   than just mine alone is just that.
From: LEYDON%BRUCE@VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU ("Internet LEYDON%BRUCE.DECNET@VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Solution to decomping .Z files on VAX
Date: 4 Jan 93 15:20:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Thanks to all who answered my question about decompressing .Z files on the
vax using LZDCMP. If anyone else needs the information, here it is....

1. make sure to download the file in IMAGE mode if using UCX ftp.

2. You must use the qualifiers /EXPORT=(UNIX,NOENDMARKER) or 
   /EXPORT=NOENDMARKER as in
	lzd input.RAW.Z/EXPORT=(UNIX,NOENDMARKER) output.raw 

3. Thats it

Again thanks to all who took the time and interest to help me out
Gary Leydon
BITNET LEYDON@YALEMED
INTERNET LEYDON%BRUCE.DECNET@VENUS.YCC.YALE.EDU
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: REPOST: Parameters for Diskperformance
Date: 11 Jan 1993 10:55:11 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1993Jan11.070517.6916@hasler.ascom.ch>, WITTWER@biel.be.tech.ascom.ch (Wittwer Fritz) writes:
>..... I think the first time I selected distribution:world, so here it comes
>      again......
>
>We will install a new RF73 disk during the next days. And I'm rembering there
>are some parameters like clustersize and so on wich affect the performance of
>disks. But unfortunatly I don't remeber were I saw it. I tried the manuals, but
>its a hard work to check all. Perhaps some kindly soul has it handy and may
>help me.

Please, can someone out there tell me why there are now people out there (e.g.,
WITTWER) who think you can manage a computer without ever having to use your
brain?

WHAT THE HELL DO YOU WANT OUT OF THE DISK?  WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TRYING TO DO
WITH THE DISK?

If you've got a lot of small files, use the smallest cluster factor allowed;
If you've got a few big files, and the disk is fragmented, use a large cluster
factor.  Otherwise, cluster size doesn't make much difference at all.

Next time, try thinking about what you're asking.

Adage of the day:  If the computer he's managing isn't the *SECOND* most
	powerful processor the manager is using, it's time to find a new
	manager.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:20769 comp.sys.dec:6810 misc.forsale.computers.other:1501 nj.market.computers:218
From: sysgaertner@cygnus.frm.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de (M. Gaertner, FRM, TH Darmstadt, Germany)
Subject: Question about RMS and MSCP-pair
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:56:21 GMT
Reply-To: sysgaertner@cygnus.frm.maschinenbau.th-darmstadt.de
Organization: Fachbereichsrechner Maschinenbau, TH Darmstadt, Germany

Hi there,
happy new year!!!
Now to my question. I discovered some oddity with RMS and MSCP-served
disk, at least I think so.
I understand that MSCP-served disks (aka RQDX3) may do bad-block-revectoring
on the attached disk. I also understand that, when the original block
showes unrecoverable READ-errors, the "forced error flag" on the copied
block will be set.
What I don't understand is why the RMS then refuses to read the file 
where the forced error-block is in. It always returns the (correct) 
error (xxx, forced error flag set). So why does the revectoring take 
place? I don't care if the file is unreadable because of read-errors or 
forced errors. Or asked different, why isn't RMS showing the file as it 
is with a warning about the damaged block?
Can anybody give an explanation to me?
Oh, I know that revectoring bad blocks on the controller-level has it's 
advantages and I like the concept with the forced error flag BUT I don't 
like RMS's handling of these blocks.

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                      M. Gaertner
                TH Darmstadt, W. Germany
	     Rechnergruppe FB 16-Maschinenbau
      SYSGAERTNER@CYGNUS.FRM.MASCHINENBAU.TH-DARMSTADT.DE
      Phone: Germany, (0)6151/16 5145
From: CTANSKI@ONONDAGA.BITNET ("Chris Tanski Jr.")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Converting mega-bytes to blocks
Date: 4 Jan 93 02:16:03 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Can someone tell me a formula for converting MB to blocks? Thanks and please
reply directly to ctanski@onondaga.bitnet.

Chris Tanski

captanski33@snycorva.cortland.edu   SUNY Cortland
ctanski@nyx.cs.du.edu   Denver University
ag244@yfn.ysu.edu   The Youngstown Free-Net
ctanski%onondaga@sed.bitnet   Onondaga BOCES (PROFS)
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: Re: What does the GOLD key do?
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 23:42:12 GMT

In article <9301040153.AA20239@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, FZC@CU.NIH.GOV ("Paul Robinson, Contractor") writes:
> Does anyone know what escape sequence is generated by the
> GOLD key on a DEC keyboard?  I'd like to add it to the
> VT100 emulation my PC software does.
> 
> Thank you,
> Paul Robinson -- TDARCOS@MCIMAIL.COM
> 

Should be <ESC>OP  , or ^[OP (control [OP)



   John Rice        K9IJ  
   rice@ttd.teradyne.com
From: fauco@CNAM.CNAM.FR (Alain Fauconnet)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VMSTAR V1.x vs. V2.0
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:57:16 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hi and happy new year to you all,
I have received several mails regarding a version 2.0 of VMSTAR. Since
I've been away from Info-VAX lately (our Bitnet connection has been
closed down and we won't be on Internet until mid February) it seems
that I have missed an announcement. I don't know who has made this V2.0
of VMSTAR but it's *not* me. I see no problems about someone else
releasing an improved version of the code (after all, I didn't write it
myself from scratch) but I'm sorry, I cannot help for versions post V1.6
of VMSTAR, which is the latest version I have released. I was planning a
V1.7 version fixing numerous bugs and adding
some new features (GNU C compliance, support of angle brackets for
directory specifications, improved buffering for faster I/Os, especially
to/from tape) but I will more probably sumbit the changes to whoever has
released V2.0 (I'b be happy to  get a mail from him/her, however) so
that a single version of the code exists.
From a bug report I received from Jerry Leichter (yes Jerry, that test
is definitely silly, but *I* did not write it!, the test in VMSTAR V1.6
is "if (inbytes == 0 && nbytes != 0)") it seems that VMSTAR V2.0
is *not* based on the
most recent code I released (V1.6), which is probably bad news for the
integration of the two threads of code.
By the way, please take note that my EARN/Bitnet address
FAUCONNE@FRSIM51.BITNET *no* *longer* exists. Until we are on Internet,
I can be reached on my guest account at CNAM, either at
fauconnet@vcnam.cnam.fr or at fauco@cnam.cnam.fr

-- Alain
---------------------
Alain Fauconnet - Assistance Publique (Public Health) Research Labs
PARIS - FRANCE
DECUS France VAX Bulletin Board (Notes) System Manager
PSI%20807509051710::FAUCONNET (for X25 fans)
From: moeller@gwdgv1.dnet.gwdg.de ("GWDGV1::MOELLER")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: re^2: Running LOGINOUT
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:32:51 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Chris_F_Chiesa@cup.portal.com asks:
> Is it possible that the "running LOGINOUT" issue, with the VMS docs very
> uncharacteristically tiptoeing around the subject, might be related to the
> thoroughly undocumented nature of my favorite Mystery System Service,
> SYS$CLI?
>[...]

It's DCL.EXE that is ugly, and so is SYS$CLI, which directly calls
an entry point in whatever CLI image you have (normally that means DCL).
All intended functionality of DCL's SYS$CLI is available cleanly
via LIB$ calls, so there's no point in hacking around.

If you're in for undocumented SYS$ routines,
SYS$IMGACT & SYS$IMGFIX might come a little closer.

LOGINOUT is still another (slowly moving) target,
doing a few kernel/exec mode things that no SYS$ call will give you.

You'll have to read the "VMS fiches" (aka. VMS LISTING CDs)!

Wolfgang J. Moeller, GWDG, D-3400 Goettingen, F.R.Germany | Disclaimer ...
PSI%(0262)45050352008::MOELLER      Phone: +49 551 201516 | No claim intended!
Internet: moeller@gwdgv1.dnet.gwdg.de   | This space intentionally left blank.
From: ts117@VAX1.BEMIDJI.MSUS.EDU (Tandi Sunarto)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: IRC Client Software ?
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:44:52 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Date sent:  11-JAN-1993 20:38:10 

This mail is to supplement my previous mail about IRC, cos' I think maybe
I didn't give enough information about IRC.

I was wondering if there is some way to set up a client program for
IRC on the VAX?
I am also looking for some way to use DCC GET on irc.
By the way, IRC stands for Internet Relay Chat. It's a place where
people from different places can talk to one another.

Any advice or help would be greatly welcome.

Tandi.

[------------------------------------]
[  Tandi Sunarto                     ]
[  TS117@VAX1.BEMIDJI.MSUS.EDU       ]
[  Bemidji State University, MN-USA  ]
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From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Question of SYSGEN.....
Date: 9 Jan 1993 10:47:07 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1993Jan6.114759.1081@cmkrnl.com>, jeh@cmkrnl.com writes:
>> Hey, is this another spoof posting???  Yeah, and autogen is
>> my friend, too.
>
>Most people will get MUCH better results from AUTOGEN than they will from 
>most of the consultants who claim that AUTOGEN has serious problems. 

Agreed.  Especially if they learn enough about what the various SYSGEN
parameters do that they can create a useful MODPARAMS.DAT.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: 92636828s@csghsg5a.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject:  local printing out of detached process
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:17:35 GMT
Organization: University of St.Gallen, Switzerland

In article <C0EGqE.HLL@micrognosis.co.uk>, nreadwin@micrognosis.co.uk (Neil Readwin) writes:
> In article <1993Jan5.131302.21764@ncsa.uiuc.edu>, jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue) writes:
> |> In article <1993Jan5.103014.347@csghsg5a.bitnet> 92636828s@csghsg5a.bitnet writes:
> |> >I'm trying to create a detached subprocess or process, which has to be
> |> >attached to the terminal, because I want to run it a batch-file with
> |> >the following content: $mc prt type *.txt
> |> >Spawn/nowait anything.com doesn't help for although the subprocess runs
> |> >asynchronous the "motherprocess" is stopped till completion of the subprocess.
> |> >Is there a possibility to do it via run/detach ?
> |> >Any kind of help will be appreciated.  
> |> 
> |> Try $ HELP SPAWN
> |> see /WAIT
> 
> Given that David-Michael has said that 'Spawn/nowait anything.com doesn't
> help' this probably will not help much.
> 
> On the other hand, he also says 'although the subprocess runs asynchronous
> the "motherprocess" is stopped till completion of the subprocess'. This is
> not true, but if he means that the child process is killed if the parent
> process is stopped then this is correct. The real question is what is the
> command
> 	$mc prt type *.txt
> supposed to do and why won't
> 	$print *.txt
> (with some set of qualifiers) do the job? Since 'mc prt' will not work here
> I assume that it is either a local hack or (conceivably) a layered product.
> 
> More information from the original poster is what we need. Neil.
> -- 
>  Phone: +44 71 815 5283  E-mail: nreadwin@micrognosis.co.uk
>  Anything is a cause for sorrow that my mind or body has made

It seems that my original posting wasn't clear enough:

	PRT is an image which allows you to print on the local printer,
	which is assigned to your terminal.

	PRINT doesn't solve the problem because it seems that the local
	printers are not accessible this way.

	If you put the  sequence "mc prt type *.txt" into a batchfile 
	(abc.com) and make a submit abc.com, it doesn't work either;
	probably because the execution of the batchfile isn't to the
	terminal the local printer is assigned to.

	Spawn/nowait mc prt type *.txt also doesn't help for though
	I get back to the $-prompt I can't work on: no typing is
	recognized. So it seems to me that the parent process is
	halted till completion of the subprocess.

	Is there a solution to this problem? 
-- 
\_\_                 \_\_       ** The world's biggest Rush fan **
  \_\_                 \_\_
    \_\_                 \_\_           David-Michael Lincke
      \_\_                 \_\_      Hochschule St. Gallen HSG
        \_\_                 \_\_
          \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_   \_\_  email: 92636828@csghsg5a.bitnet
					    92636828@alpha.unisg.ch	

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM (Bob Marshall)
Subject: Re: Please Repost:  Printers on TCP Servers
Reply-To: marshall@NEBULA.SSD.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 15:58:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.044536.1@alien.gici.com>, laut@alien.gici.com (Bill Laut) writes:
>
>I've been out of town for the last two months on a project.  During that
>time, somebody posted a request for information about printing to TCP/IP
>terminal servers which utilize custom symbionts.
>
>I regret missing it, as I could bend your ear for hours with technical
>dissertations, etc., on how to go about resolving that problem.  

I posted a request like that (and several others may have, too). I think
I am the only one who asked about solving the problem of what to do if
the existing LAT print queue is already using a customized symbiont
(other than LATSYM, of course). For example, in my case I have 20 Talaris
QUIC printers which are initialized with INIT/QUEUE/PROCESSOR=TFMSMB
(this symbiont handles soft font download management). Currently these
printers are hooked up to LAT servers, but we are in the process of
overhauling our network topology, and LAT will no longer be routed.
So we need to figure out a TCP/IP solution for these printers. We have
purchased a whole bunch of Datability (VISTA) dual-protocol servers,
and we are running TGV Multinet. I understand that the Multinet stream
symbiont solution solves the simple situation where /PROCESSOR=LATSYM
had been used, but it does not solve my Talaris problem.

The only solution we have come up with so far (short of writing our own
symbionts, which no one here, including me, is equipped to do), is to
purchase protocol translator cards for the terminal servers. These cards
will translate LAT to TCP/IP and vice-versa. So we would convert LAT to
TCP/IP for the purpose of getting through the routers, then on the
destination side convert TCP/IP back to LAT to go to the LAT server to
which the printer is connected. This worked for the most part, but was 
incredibly messy and prone to mis-configuration.

I'd appreciate any feedback, ("technical dissertations" included).

Bob Marshall
marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com

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Bob Marshall                     \\     "Women aren't as smart as they
Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     think they are; they think we
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    men know a lot more than we
marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   really do."
"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Tim the Toolman
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: merrill@stsci.edu (Clark Merrill)
Subject: Re: help on SET WATCH?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.50    
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 12:41:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.092725.27830@dxcern.cern.ch>, LETERTRE@VXCERN.DECNET.CERN.CH writes...
> 
>In article <11JAN199318354679@loyola.edu>, cmelaro@loyola.edu (Chris Melaro) 
>writes:
>|>Can anyone help me with the undocumented SET WATCH command?  I've used it in
>|>the past but can't seem to remember all the paramaters now.
> 

By the way, SET WATCH still works on the ALPHA!  

Clark B. Merrill 
Space Telescope Science Institute
Baltimore, Maryland
merrill@stsci.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,de.comp.os.vms
From: wb@arb-phys.uni-dortmund.de ()
Subject: Does anybody know about Excelan interfaces?
Organization: Institut f. Arbeitsphysiologie a.d. Uni Dortmund
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 07:37:59 GMT

Hello,
recently, I acquired a used VAXstation II/GPX. This machine contained an
interface EXCELAN EXOS 203. I could not find any information about this
type of board. It is posslibly an ethernet controller, but the chips on
the card are not specific to determine the function.

Is anybody able to help?

-- 
Dipl.-Math. Wilhelm Bernhard Kloke,
Institut fuer Arbeitsphysiologie an der Universitaet Dortmund
Ardeystrasse 67, D-4600 Dortmund 1, Tel. 0231-1084-257
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: The VAX Vacuum
Reply-To: Hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:04:36 GMT

In article <9301040153.AA20250@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, FZC@CU.NIH.GOV ("Paul
Robinson, Contractor") writes:

|>The issue of the VAX vacuum vs. VAX computers and the
|>trademark isn't significant except to the extent Digital
|>might have wanted to sell their computer in the same
|>countries as that other company had been selling vacuums.

|>And first to file has problems too.  A U.S. soldier during World
|>War II was kind of bored while on leave in various countries, so
|>he filed trademark applications in the various countries he
|>visited for some well-known U.S. products.  Those countries had
|>"first to file" laws, i.e. whoever registers a mark owns the mark
|>even if they never use it.

First to use has the same problem. A certain brewery decided to name it's
product after a famous beer in Chezch. It then went on the be one of the biggest
selling beer substitues in the US, it's called Budwiezer. Only in most of Europe
it can't be sold under that name (apart from the fact that nobody would want to
buy it).


|>Donald Trump is in a mess of trouble because he named his casino
|>"The Taj Mahal" after knowing that a guy who owns a restaurant
|>in Washington, DC, had already registered the identical mark for
|>his restaurant with the Patent and Trademark office.  Now this
|>restaurant owner is suing Trump over servicemark infringement.

Only since the Taj Mahal is a very common name for Indian Restaurants, Trump
probably has had no difficulty in showing prior use.

Most countries are sensible enough to have obvious use clauses. For instance DEC
cannot trademark Alpha, Sinclair could not patent Spectrum. On the other hand
there are common laws against passing off. If I were to put an IBM Pc in an
alpha AXP type box and call it an Alpha I could be done for passing off unless I
made it clear that what I was not what the customer expected by an Alpha.

--

Phill Hallam-Baker
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec
From: evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans @ IME)
Subject: Re: DEClaser 1152 attached to Sparcstation - problem solved
Reply-To: evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans @ IME)
Organization: Digital Equipment Service Industries Solutions Company Ltd
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:01:15 GMT


In article <1993Jan4.222150.19895@icf.hrb.com>, gwi@icf.hrb.com (Gregory W.
Isett) writes:
>It would have been nice if it had generated an error/diagnostic page (like
>Error - unrecognized command  "foobar", but it didn't...
>

  You mean like this tale from rec.humor.funny :- 

In article <S4d0.1bc8@looking.on.ca>, jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu 
(Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
>Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 19:30:02 EST
>Newsgroups: rec.humor.funny
>From: jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
>Subject: A really useful error message
>Keywords: smirk, computers, true
>Approved: funny@clarinet.com
>
>It's interesting, the features people dream up in this
>age of technology....
>
>We have a Sun SPARC laser printer which even has a feature
>to print error messages like : "Printer low on toner" on a 
>piece of paper, in addition to those idiot lights on the 
>front panel.
>
>The best was last week:  I was printing and noticed the printer
>stopped and on came an indicator light.  I looked and realized it 
>was out of paper.  So I reloaded it, and sure enough, out comes
>the next page with:
>
>"Printer out of paper."
>

 :-)
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+======================================================================+
| Gwyn Evans  | evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com |  Uxbridge, Middlesex, UK  |
| DESISCo - Digital Equipment Service Industries Solutions Company Ltd |
|  Views expressed and statements made are mine and not those of DEC   |
+======================================================================+
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: zzang@stat.ufl.edu (zzang)
Subject: need xmodem for VAX
Originator: zzang@marlin
Organization: UF
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 21:21:47 GMT

Hello,
do we have xmodem for the VAX/VMS?
the kermit is slow.

Thanks in advance!

--zhuo
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms