HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Cholov Yisrael
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:03:08 GMT
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: pab1@quads.uchicago.edu (paul andrew braier)

In article <1992Dec15.164809.2111@midway.uchicago.edu>, pab1@quads (paul andrew braier) writes:
>The reason I bring this up is that there is a disagreement regarding
>milk. While certain communities hold that milk requires heksher, that is,
>that milk be _cholov_Yisrael_, this is by no means required by _halacha_.

Ridiculous as it may seem, there are OU cholov stam cartons.
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: alex@math.idbsu.edu (Alex Feldman)
Subject: Re: Refuting Xian Missionaries (README)
Organization: Boise State University Math Dept.
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:44:56

>>>>> On 13 Dec 92 21:32:30 GMT, friedenb@silver.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg) said:


GF> Because this aggravating thread of messianic Judiasm has reappeared
GF> I am posting an excerpt from one of the best books on refuting Xian
GF> missionaries, "You Take Jesus, I'll Take G-d" by Samuel Levine.
GF> It is available at may Jewish bookstores for $6 in paperback.  
GF> It is about 130 pages long.  If you are not near a Jewish bookstore,
GF> call 1-800-JUDAISM, and order it through the mail from Pinskers
GF> book store in Pittsburgh.

	[useful information deleted]

GF> I highly recommend this book to anyone.  I would personally add something to
GF> part 1 above:  When someone quotes to you, ask them to furnish the verse in
GF> context (I ask for the paragrahs before and after the verse) in Hebrew, since
GF> it is only fair to verify Jesus in his original language of study.  This will
GF> usually scare them away.  

While the book has some useful information in it, I found it rather
shrill, and I was particularly offended by the following sentences
from the last paragraph of the introduction:

"I have no quarrel with Christian missionaries who try to convert
pagans into becoming Christians.  That is highly meritorious, becuase
they are then transforming an immoral, primitive person into a more
moral and spiritual one."

Frankly, if I'd seen those sentences before the fact, I probably never
would have bought the book.

GF> Gedaliah Friedenberg
GF> -=-Department of Mechanical Engineering
GF> -=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science
GF> -=-Michigan State University


GF>                    
--
	--alex			alex@math.idbsu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: The Crucifixion Prophecy
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:57:15 GMT

In <1gbf6uINNqhu@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> jlove@ivrit.ra.itd.umich.edu (Jack Love) writes:

>My Sysadmin offered the advice of publicly responding to the message 
>with the precise keystroke sequence needed to accomplish this 
>task. I think it should look something like

>/missionary's name/ :j  

I think that this syntax is applicable to only some newsreaders.  We
should remember that there are many newsreaders out there, and they
are all LEGITIMATE INTERPRETATIONS!  We don't know which newsreader
Moshe used at Sinai!  We do however know which shell, but you have
to be 40 years old to find out.

For those of the "nn" persuasion, one enters the Kill menu by pressing
capital K, either from the selection screen or while reading an
article.  Many choices are available, one can kill subjects or
authors, and the result is automatically entered into the kill file.
-- 
/|/-\/-\          Adif tzav pinui metzav shmoneh.
 |__/__/_/    
 |warren@         "WARENS statement in his signature express a Nazi idea."
/ nysernet.org 			    Gideon Ehrlich
From: friedenb@silver.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Refuting Xian Missionaries (README)
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:32:30 GMT
Reply-To: friedenb@silver.egr.msu.edu (Gedaliah Friedenberg)
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University


Because this aggravating thread of messianic Judiasm has reappeared
I am posting an excerpt from one of the best books on refuting Xian
missionaries, "You Take Jesus, I'll Take G-d" by Samuel Levine.
It is available at may Jewish bookstores for $6 in paperback.  
It is about 130 pages long.  If you are not near a Jewish bookstore,
call 1-800-JUDAISM, and order it through the mail from Pinskers
book store in Pittsburgh.

Outline for refuting Chrsitian missionaries (pgs. 9-10):

1.  If they quote from the Old Testament, then

	a.  Look at the entire context of that verse--usually this
	    alone will suffice.

	b.  See if the verse has been mistranslated--you should 
	    always try to look up every quote in the original Hebrew.
	    If you do not know Hebrew, find a friend who dies.

	c.  See if the verse seems to be misinterpreted--see if the
	    interpretation is forced into the words artificially.

	d.  See if the verse points exclusively to Jesus;  see if the
	    verse could apply to another person as well.

2.  If a Christian missionary solemnly warns you that you will burn 
    in hell forever unless you accept Jesus, or if they try any other 
    type of psychological trick, calmly ask them for a logical proof 
    of their beliefs.  Insist on intellectual reasoning.

3.  When missionaries present one of their proofs, and meet a question 
    in return, they often do not answer the question.  Instead, they 
    usually throw another verse at the person.  When this occurs, calmly 
    insist that they answer the question that was asked.

4.  Try to speak as clamly as you can.  Jesus freaks believe that only
    faith in Jesus will make a person clam, and so your getting excited 
    will only reinforce them.

5.  Never be on the defensive.  Be aware that you are most probably dealing 
    with brainwashed people, and not rational theologians.  There is 
    therefore no reason to feel defensive or uncomfortable if you disagree 
    with them.  If they interrupt the discussion and ask you if it would be 
    all right for them to immediately pray for your soul, do not let it faze 
    you.  That is a psychological trick that they use, and you might want to 
    respond to it by singing a song or praying for their soul in return.

    

I highly recommend this book to anyone.  I would personally add something to
part 1 above:  When someone quotes to you, ask them to furnish the verse in
context (I ask for the paragrahs before and after the verse) in Hebrew, since
it is only fair to verify Jesus in his original language of study.  This will
usually scare them away.  


Gedaliah Friedenberg
-=-Department of Mechanical Engineering
-=-Department of Metallurgy, Mechanics and Materials Science
-=-Michigan State University
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:47:45 EST
From: Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Just what IS the e-mail policy?? (was Re: STOP Spreading...)
 <9212171534.AA08486@hrt213.brooks.af.mil> <1992Dec17.154906.7914@wam.umd.edu>
 <dfs.724608525@sybok>

In article <dfs.724608525@sybok>, dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll) says:
>
>In <1992Dec17.154906.7914@wam.umd.edu> aap@wam.umd.edu (Alberto Adolfo
>Pinkas) writes:
>
>>In article <9212171534.AA08486@hrt213.brooks.af.mil>
>tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Tim Miller) writes:
>
>>>      I got mail back that contained a cited copy of my mail followed
>>>by 16 repititions of "Fuck you."
>
>>Then, why are you posting his "private" answer to your "private" mail
>>here?
>
>I always assumed that it was OK to cite the basic idea in an e-mail, unless
>the sender specifically asked that this not be done.  I also assumed that
>it was bad form to POST (not QUOTE) e-mail verbatim directly to the net.
>"Andy" and I thrashed this out, you may remember. :-(
>
>So, what's the answer?
>
>--
>David F. Skoll

David, you never explained the difference between posting and paraphrasing
e-mail. Why in your mind is one acceptable and the other not when in both
cases the privacy of e-mail is violated (paraphrasing e-mail and not giving
the name of the sender may be permissable, but this you did not do in either
case).IMHO your citing that it is acceptable to paraphrase but not to quote
is breaking the spirit of the rule, if following the word and is nothing
but a feeble and facile rationalisation for your breaking of the rule.

In principle there is no difference between a direct quote and a paraphrase,
if anything it is WORSE to paraphrase because you remove the context and
possibly change the essence of what you quote. In either case, it is not
acceptable to quote or paraphrase e-mail, particularly if it is attribute it.

I ask you again, give your logic as to why you think one is acceptable and the
other isn't and why paraphrasing does not break the spirit of the rule.
From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: SCJ HAS BEEN DECONTAMINATED!
Date: 21 Dec 92 06:58:52 GMT
Organization: People's Front of Judea

In article <1992Dec21.044821.1@vxdesy.desy.de> godfrey@vxdesy.desy.de writes:
>
>No I don't agree
>
>Jesus

Look, guys! He's back! Quick! Let's kill him again!
-- 
Andrew Solovay    
                "I know that, in America and under capitalism,
                 I am the freest woman in history."
                                --- Camille Paglia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: MILLERM@SUVM.SYR.EDU
Subject: Searching for relatives in Argentina
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 20:28:31 EST

 
In soc.roots I wrote:
 
>I  also  am looking for relatives in Argentina, last known to be in
>Buenos Aires.  The family name was Wiszniewski, could be spelled
>Vishnevsky or many other ways.  The name was originally Besdin, and
>the family came from Kossovo, Belarus, formerly in the USSR.
>
>Thanks for any ideas!
 
I received the following answer:
 
>Recuerdo un profesor de psicologia que tuviera mi esposa en los 70 en
>La Plata con un apellido similar, de origen judio, y creo que de
>Belarus, una persona muy inteligente y preparada, pero eso es todo lo
>que puedo aportar.  Buena suerte !
 
Apparently there was a psychology professor by this name in La Plata in
1970.  Can anyone give me any more information.  The head of this family,
which I believe was a large one, was my grandmother's brother.
 
Please email me at:
 
millerm@suvm.BITNET
millerm@suvm.cat.syr.edu
 
Happy holidays,
 
Martin Miller
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin)
Subject: Re: atonement thru death of righteous person
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:47:35 GMT

In article <12059@hogg.ed.ac.uk> iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski) writes:
>In article <9212112131.AA01147@hrt213.brooks.af.mil> tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Tim Miller) writes:
><	It would seem to be that this concept [that the death of a
><righteous person will expiate the sins of an entire generation] arises
><out of misinterpreting (and then taking to absurd extremes) the concept of
><scapegoat. 

>Scapelamb, actually, if I'm thinking of the same "righteous person" as
>the original poster.  They don't even try to conceal this.

><	Human sacrifice (which this is) is verboten.  Big time.

>What about Jephthah the Gileadite killing his daughter (Judges 11)?

There is the alternate version that he did not kill her, but instead 
sent her to be a permanent Temple servant.  She asked for time to 
bewail her virginity, not her life.
-- 
Herman Rubin, Dept. of Statistics, Purdue Univ., West Lafayette IN47907-1399
Phone: (317)494-6054
hrubin@snap.stat.purdue.edu (Internet, bitnet)  
{purdue,pur-ee}!snap.stat!hrubin(UUCP)
From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: atonement thru death of righteous person
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:07:41 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <9212112131.AA01147@hrt213.brooks.af.mil> tjm@hrt213.brooks.af.mil (Tim Miller) writes:
<	It would seem to be that this concept [that the death of a
<righteous person will expiate the sins of an entire generation] arises
<out of misinterpreting (and then taking to absurd extremes) the concept of
<scapegoat. 

Scapelamb, actually, if I'm thinking of the same "righteous person" as
the original poster.  They don't even try to conceal this.

<	Human sacrifice (which this is) is verboten.  Big time.

What about Jephthah the Gileadite killing his daughter (Judges 11)?

-- 
 `D'ye mind tellin me whit the two o ye are gaun oan aboot?' (The Glasgow
Ivan A Derzhanski  (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk; iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu)    Gospel)
* Centre for Cognitive Science,  2 Buccleuch Place,  Edinburgh EH8 9LW,  UK
* Cowan House, Pollock Halls, 18 Holyrood Park Road, Edinburgh EH16 5BD, UK
From: mgross@halibut.nosc.mil (Michelle K. Gross)
Subject: Re: Messianic Judiasm
Originator: scj@israel.nysernet.org
Reply-To: <mgross@halibut.nosc.mil (Michelle K. Gross)>
Organization: Nysernet
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 19:10:33 GMT


If you were to include Jews who are hoping and praying that
the Lubavitcher Rebbe will be revealed as the Moshiah, I think that
you would find quite a few Jews--from all over the world--who are
ready to see the fulfillment of history. 

At one time, one of the scj Levene's had suggested George Bush as a
possible candidate. Now that the elections are over, he may not be
as likely a candidate.

Any other viable candidates, who are living and so far un-revealed?

--Michelle
mgross@Nosc.mil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: wells@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Wells)
Subject: Re: Entertaining suggestions for responses to "Merry Christmas"
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:38:13 GMT


A lapsed Catholic friend of mine says in a ringing, "Merry Christmas"
tone, "Happy Giftgiving !" or, if she's in a more cynical mood, "Happy
Greed !"
-- 
Scott Wells                        +  Get thee behind me Satan !
Internet: wells@athena.cs.uga.edu  + 
University of Georgia		   +  Looking for families: Wells, Fox (TN)
Athens, Georgia, USA               +  Coatney (TN), Wilvert (PA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: Autopsy - Kahane and Rosenbaum
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 06:09:33 GMT

In <1992Dec9.235806.9892@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

>	It was the correct paragraph.  Look real closely this time.  It
>has something in it that you denied.

OK, I give up.  Clearly I am a closed-minded person whose hatred for
... blinds him to the obvious.  Could you tell me now?
-- 
/|/-\/-\          Adif tzav pinui metzav shmoneh.
 |__/__/_/    
 |warren@         "WARENS statement in his signature express a Nazi idea."
/ nysernet.org 			    Gideon Ehrlich
From: janiceg@marvin.Eng.Sun.COM (Janice Gelb)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: How to crochet kippot (summary -LONG)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 23:42:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: janiceg@marvin.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: marvin

In article A02@news.cso.uiuc.edu, sharon@phoneme.shs.uiuc.edu (Sharon Morrison) writes:
>HOW TO CROCHET KIPPOT (YARMULKES) - summary 
>
>Yarn size:  Knit-CroSheen (size 10), No. 8 Perle cotton (DMC).  
>Hook size: steel 10 (11 or 12  for finer, tighter stitch, 8 or 6 for a  
>more open, lacey look).
>

To do the more complicated patterns and have the cipah look more like 
a professional one, I'd recommend the DMC thread - the Knit-CroSheen 
is very thick and shiny looking. Also, there's a size 14 needle that 
produces an even finer, tighter stitch than the 12.

I have personally created patterns for the Superman or Batman logos, 
soccer balls, bicycles, Model-T cars, and a bargello pattern. If anyone 
would like copies of any of these, let me know.


********************************************************************************
Janice Gelb                  | (415) 336-7075     
janiceg@marvin.eng.sun.com   | "A silly message but mine own" (not Sun's!) 
********************************************************************************

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Re: Venison
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:46:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.032317.9698@netcom.com> solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay) writes:
>In article <4803@moscom.com> de@moscom.com (David Esan) writes:
>>
>>Now the question is:  Is there another source for kosher venison? 
>
>How about kosher moose?
>
>A moose bit mi sister once...

I prefer llamas myself.

Ted "ready to sack someone" Frank
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
From: ask@cbnews.cb.att.com (Arthur S. Kamlet)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: The Eight Nights of Chanukah
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:35:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnews.1992Dec13.193558.1147
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories,  Columbus, Ohio

In article <davidh.724234403@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu> davidh@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (David Klein) writes:
>On the eighth night of Chanukah, someone sent to me,
>
>Eight fiddlers fiddling,
>Seven rabbis dancing,
>Six grandmas cooking,
>Five kosher dills,
>Four pounds of corned beef,
>Three golden latkes,
>Two matzoh balls,
>and a warm bagel topped with cream cheese.

Four pounds of corned beef and a bagel topped with cream cheese?

Hmmmmmmm......

>Happy Chanukah!

Chag Sameach!
-- 
Art Kamlet  a_s_kamlet@att.com  AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus
From: arens@ISI.EDU (Yigal Arens)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Israel's deportation of over 400 Palestinians
Date: 18 Dec 92 21:05:36 GMT
	<1992Dec18.185837.8548@ennews.eas.asu.edu>
Organization: USC/Information Sciences Institute
In-reply-to: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu's message of 18 Dec 92 18:58:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.185837.8548@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:
>
> In article <1gt2k7INNjkm@mizar.usc.edu> srose@mizar.usc.edu (Steve Rose) writes:
>
> # Israel's deportation of over 400 Palestinians is wrong, for at least three
> # reasons.
> # 1. It is illegal (according to Israeli, as well as international
> # law).
>
>  Since the Israeli Supreme court allowed it, you are an idiot if
> you think it is illegal according to Israeli law.

Mr. Makowsky, we all know you are the mother of all idiots -- but do you
*have* to demonstrate it again and again?  For your information, the
Israeli Supreme Court allowed the deportation to take place without
ruling on its legality.  It set a date about a month from now for
arguments on that issue.

> As to international
> law, it is only illegal if you assume the FALSE interpretation of the
> fourth geneva concention that all deportations are illegal.

Article 49 of the 1949 (Fourth) Geneva Convention on the Protection
of War Victims states, among other things:

  Individual or mass forcible transfers, as well as deportations of
  protected persons [i.e., inhabitants of occupied territory -- YA]
  from occupied territory to the territory of the Occupying Power or
  to that of any other country, occupied or not, are prohibited
  regardless of motive.

I can see how easily this can be FALSELY interpreted.  Good to know that
you have the CORRECT interpretation in your pocket.
--
Yigal Arens
USC/ISI                                                TV made me do it!
arens@isi.edu
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 15:24:00 EST
From: Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: Messianics and us?
 <1992Dec13.050433.21810@cis.ohio-state.edu>

In article <1992Dec13.050433.21810@cis.ohio-state.edu>,
khaikin@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (dmitry khaikin) says:
>
>In article <92346.1743142893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Andy
><2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>>What to do about the messiah crowd?  a) write up a very detailed,            e
>comprehensiv
>>retort to messianic judaism/evangelical christianity including detailed
>>biblical references as to why JC cannot be the messiah, keep it on file and
>>post it as a form, and only response to any evangelicals who wander our way.
>>
>>                                     b) ignore them, do not acknowledge, do  t
>no
>>respond (are we that disciplined?)
>>                                     c) become evangelical Jews and respond
>to
>>
>>the JC crowd by sending them similar stuff telling them why they should      t
>conver
>>to Judaism. If there is an ongoing campaign, start posting our evangelical
>>message to their newsgroups!         :)
>
>These are very good solutions except the last one. A Jew should not
>encourage anybody to convert to Judaism. He should tell people that it
>is not for them and so on...
>

I did put a :) up there you know

>Thanks,
>Dima
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>-
>  "A word is worth one coin; silence is worth two."_____ The Talmud.
>  "Silence is good everywhere, except in connection with Torah."____ The
>Zohar.
>   khaikin@cis.ohio-state.edu (Dmitry Khaikin, Columbus Ohio, USA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew M. Solovay)
Subject: Re: Messianics and us?
Organization: Jews for Melkor
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 20:39:27 GMT

In article <92346.1743142893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Andy <2893684@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>What to do about the messiah crowd?  
> [...]
>c) become evangelical Jews and respond to the JC crowd by sending
>them similar stuff telling them why they should convert to
>Judaism. If there is an ongoing campaign, start posting our
>evangelical message to their newsgroups!  :)

Nu, why would we want them? Let the Christians take them off our
hands. They owe us that much...

-- 
Andrew Solovay    

"We all have faults, and mine is being wicked."
                --- The Duke of Coffin Castle
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: emc@doe.carleton.ca (Eli Chiprout)
Subject: Re: Jewish STEREOTYPES - the last time
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:26:19 GMT

In <1992Dec18.172759.14745@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> seth@inst-sun1.tmc.edu (Seth Chazanoff) writes:
>	Re: Jewish "Self-mocking"

>	Last week, I made a loaf of Jallopino Cheese Bread.  One of the steps
>is to mince Jallopino peppers.  When I finished mincing the peppers, I rinsed 
>my hands, and for some reason touched my eye.  About 10 seconds later my eye
>started burning, I yelled something like 'nuts' (for me this nuts is a pretty
>good exclaimation), my wife asked me what was wrong, I replied "I am an Idiot."

And you call that a Jewish story?!  Where is the Jewish mother saying
"You won't have a second helping of my Jallopino Cheese Bread?
 What's the matter you don't like my cooking?  After all the hours
 I spent in the kitchen!  Wait till your father hears about this!"

Also, what kind of a Jewish gvetch is that: "nuts"?  
"Oy gavult!" maybe.
"ma ze! Khallopino?" maybe.
but "nuts"????  Give me a break!





--
Eli Chiprout                 
Dept. of Electronics, 
Carleton University, Canada
emc@doe.carleton.ca                                     
Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: goldberg@techunix.technion.ac.il (Jacques Goldberg)
Subject: Re: Electricity on Shabbat (was Re: Halacha)
Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 06:07:18 GMT

I did **NOT** write that a circuit without oxidation contacts etc... I just
claim that the fact that it is very hard to construct a complete system
using electricity that would not have any chance to create a spark is enough
to tell us why electricity is not used on Shabbath. There may be more reasons,
there may be more considerations. To make some product Kosher, all ingredients
must be Kosher. To make it Treif, one Treif ingredient is enough.

Yaaqov Goldberg