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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:07:02 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject: re: Tushar's Test
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              30 Sep 1992 22:34:00 EDT from <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>

On Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:34:00 EDT Gilbert Smith said:
>Well, I couldn't help but look at it again, to see if you remember
>correctly.  And, yes, you were very nice about wordslers and cast no
>disparaging remarks on any <known> posters.  Very obvious, however,

  Glad to see that the MEMORY isn't gone anyway.   8-)   (neither is
anything else, thank God, except a bit more fat)

>which <came to full flower>, or blossomed, in your Lecture to Gilbert.
>When anybody calls me Gilbert, I know there is trouble ahead.

   True enough....same as if I hear Daniel from my mother....(no, I'm not
his mother....but "Lecture to Giggles" doesn't quite have the same
ring, does it?  8-)

>You can read the results, you know.  I dont think anyone got her/his

   I know...and someday I may do so....but right now I have about 600
unread msgs from last few days, only half from this list, and I'm feeling
fairly punky after two sixteen hour days with a conference in town.
But at least its raining....and I've got most of the weekend to catch
up a buncha stuff.

   btw, giggles, popularity ain't all its cracked up to be....I know....

dan
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 08:42:02 EDT
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Shell Suits

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:36:02 GMT Peter Flynn said:
>Has anyone any idea where the term "shell suit" originated and why?
>(They're those tacky shiny thin anorak-cum-pants suits).
>
>///Peter

   Sorry, Peter, I can't help.  It was only last week that I
   encountered the word "anorak."  Still working on that one.
   Is a shell suit like a warm-up suit?  Maybe it's called a
   shell because it's shed before the game starts....

   By the way, I notice the UCC.IE in your address.  Don't know
   a chap name of Sjostrom there, do you?

   brad
   bgrissom@ukcc.uky.edu
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:07:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Errata Sheet (Sonnet for Judith)
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Last line revised with erratum removed (d*mned proofreader!)
------------------------------------------
>   Sonnet for Judith
>   --------------------------------
>   .
>   From midst the flow'rs and fruits and flies,
>   Our lust for life just flits and dies.
>   From twixt the twigs and twirling vines
>   Our gusto gasps and gropes and whines.
>   .
>   From out our throats the plaintive sound
>   Of hearts that thump and bleat and pound.
>   From neath our breasts the dire lament
>   Of plans gone 'skew and spirits spent.
>   .
>   One hope remains for minds distressed
>   One hope that peers from deep defeat.
>   One hope that shows its snowy crest.
>   .
>   Return thou wise thou fine thou sweet;
>   Return and all our pains delete;
>   Return and be we each one blessed.
>   ---------------------------
>   --ggs
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 07:22:00 EST
From:         CROSEN%BGSUOPIE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Re: Frequently Asked-to-Natalie Questions

Greetings,

I feel the need.

Marty
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Date:         Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:23:57 MED
From:         "(Graham Toal)" <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: blinking lights
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Parenthetically,

noted. :-)

G
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:11:58 EST
From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WFF: An astounding finding!

>that some wordslers
>named more than one person in some categories and all named were
>recorded (that is, if gt and -abh were both named by a wordsler
>as <most childish>, then they each got a vote for that category)...


This sounds *very* irregular indeed.  The possibilities are astounding.

But let me ask a question.  I had--hypothetically speaking, mind you--put
down the Toal House Kooky twice under, say, most pleasant,--but I actually
only put him down once (somehow, like a rubber clown, he keeps bouncing up
in my face)--and in fact we ended up tied for most pleasant, then you would
have counted two votes for the Cracker and he would have been the clear
winner?  Do I receive your meaning?

This means that one could have protected one's friends--hypothetically,
again, had I voted once for everyone but Mr. Kookyhead in the category of
most unpleasant, I could have made it very unlikely that he would suffer
the ignominy (I'm sure the jokes about hominy--ad hominy attacks etc.) that
he did in fact suffer--but is braving so heroically.

You didn't tell us, Giggles, that multiple votes in a category would count.
Hmmm.  Let me see--so I'll vote for Marrou, Bush, and Perot and Slick
Willie will just slide away into future editions of Trivial Pursuit.  Are
you sure you didn't run Lyndon's '48 Senate campaign?

-Mka
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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:06:51 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: 747
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On Mon, 5 Oct 1992, (Graham Toal) wrote:

> or not.  I'm betting some will be found.  And the Israelis would *not* be
> allowed to take reprisals themselves - the US would insist on a share of
> the action.

You better get the word out quick to the Israeli pilots who centerpunched
the Osirak reactor. They have been laboring under the false assumption
they did it all by themselves for *years* now. And how about those PLO
base camps in Lebanon that receive regular visits from the Israeli army?
They're not over there delivering Republican get-well cards, I assure you.

-abh
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:02:29 CDT
From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: the company she keeps!
Comments: To: WORDS-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

> >                          If Santa sends a direct note to any of you
> >(i.e., not through the list), examine the headers for the evidence.
>
> He's not likely to send me one. Was he stupid enough to send you one?

Nope.

> >Listservs, however, delete the identifying lines.
>
> They don't, and you have said so yourself once.

Oh?  Then where is the identifying line?  The list mail I get shows the
routing from UGA to here, not the routing of the note when it was on its
way to UGA.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:35:03 GMT
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      HI

Just short note ...been working wll day, waiting for water heater to heat
water, so I can soak for a while ...aching all over.  Joseph is here, and
is ever getting to be a little man....laughs and carries on so ...and when
he starts crying we can give him back!  Asked Dawn to find me some bubble-
bath ... I don't care laugh...anyway showed me something Joyce uses...the
description is almost R-Rated ...Dawn called it "slip and slide"  I told
her if she ever used it I wouldn't let her out of the house :-)  Also,
thanks for private mail, no matter what your viewpoint, will answer later,
maybe tomorrow ... got to go, water must be hot by now!  Bye.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:13:50 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      pearly gates
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              5 Oct 1992 07:00:00 CDT from <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>

On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 07:00:00 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
>WORDS-L is still the best
>list for *all* questions tho.


yes....and that is the perfect segue....thanks natalie, dear.....

st peter and the pearly gates.....WHAT and WHERE is the source for
that image....obviously NOT Biblical.....but from where?  Milton or
someone famous?  Some obscure Pope?  Some folklore?  Others?

yes, a serious question.....

dan
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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:24:26 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Blinking Lights
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On Sat, 26 Sep 1992, (Natalie Maynor) wrote:

> don't remember seeing a single headlight warning the whole time I was
> wandering around on highways in the Northeast last July.  Is it regional,
> or is it just that I've never happened upon a speed trap in other parts of
> the country?

We do it in Texas, plus the truckers have a system of flashing to each
other that is one flash for "seen no cops," and two for "cops ahead." In
Texas you can expect to encounter radar on the X, K, and Ka bands as well
as Laser speed detection. We spend lots of money keeping our speed
detection hardware state of the art, but I don't see how these ostensible
laser detectors Cobra sells can possibly do any good. There is a county in
south Texas, McMullen, called "The FREE State of McMullen County," where
the judge has a publicly known policy of throwing out all speed tickets.
Reason is there are only two towns in McMullen county and there is just no
reason to slow down. It's practically unamerican. I have personally
traversed McMullen County on two wheels at 100mph, and on 4 wheels at 90.
The signs at the edge of the county proclaim "Entering The Free State..."
and "Leaving The Free State..." and T-shirts boasting that the wearer
drove through The Free State are for sale in the county's only store. The
cops just do not bother coming into The Free State; I've even seen one
state trooper make a U-turn on the road a few miles from the County Line
and head back away from The Free State.

-abh
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:29:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: lecture to gilbert
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>
> As always, I calls em the way i sees em.....and maybe this shoulda been
> private, and maybe I shoulda pulled some punches....but, fuck it....this is
> words-l and we're family.
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
> dan in potatoland

that's right, and that is why I don't mind you're saying what you
did.
--ggs
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:54:59 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      spouse titles
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              Gail Lester <gaill@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>

On Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:47:53 EDT Rita Marie Rouvalis said:
>> P.S.  I really do want to know - when will "my husband" seem like a
>>       natural thing to say?
>
   Well, there is at least ONE advantage to the husband/wife nomenclature....
none of this often-awkward searching for terms to use when introducing,
etc.....and whether to boss, family, friends, etc, the words/terms may
be different....but husband/wife have standard meanings....defined by law...
no friend, roommate, lover, main squeeze, honey, etc, etc, etc,......

   dan   (who has done both, on several occasions)
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:22:20 BST
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Shell Suits
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On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:02:22 EDT, "Elaine Brennan" <elaine@brownvm.brown.edu>
 wrote:
> Yeah, but I'm also too busy to talk to him ....... you guys will just have to
> amuse each other ....
>
> Elaine

It's <in hand>, if Peter can get to the UKTuG meeting (where some bastard
has proposed me for the committee and unfortunately it looks like a
shoo-in.  I'll have to try *really* hard to be voted down :-( )

G
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Subject: Re: Reverse E-Opps
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:34:20 GMT


> tushar deposeth:
>	A child can realize that all these noble things require doing work and
>	paying money. I don't pay for my emailing.

> graham riposteth:
>True.  Th American taxpayer pays it for you.
>

---WRONGGGGGGG!  tushar's student fees etc pay for it, just as they pay for 
   the library, the groundskeeping, and the dean.  

--bayla




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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:01:20 -0600
From:         harwell@BANDW.PANAM.EDU
Subject:      Re: 747
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>Since the post about the 747 crash, there has been an EL AL
>Cargo Plane crash in Amsterdam.  Is that where you are Graham?
>Are you OK

You're doing this to make us meshugena, right?

-abh
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              6 Oct 1992 03:42:12 MED from <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>

On Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:42:12 MED Graham Toal said:
>a group specially for Military Officers Training & Scholarship Schools - you'd
><fit right in> - just ask your postmaster if he can fix you up
>with a feed from soc.motss
>
   Its a shot from halfcourt.....and the Graham SCORES!!!   Swish.....
nothing but cord.....

dan
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From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: re: Tushar's Test

>                                                      -- a true believer in
>Ghandi's "Be as you would have the world be, and the world will be a little
>more like you."  'Tis a consummation well to be wished.

For the sake of precision:

1) Gandhi
2) devoutly

tushar
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Date:         Sun, 4 Oct 1992 16:52:17 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Mama Judith

>     I am confused, oh List Wit.

I spy with my beady eye another Voter!

>If this is a reference to Ronin (R) Original Tar Sentences, when I filed
>my trademark request I used product developed prior to roninization to
>substantiate my claim.

And even if it is not, I hereby affirm.

>How is it you are just now uncovering 'proof'?

By the elementary process of quoting it, albeit less with the intention of
uncovering proof than of supplying a random irredundant illustration for
the purpose of substantiating said claim (to use some vocabulary).

tushar
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Natalie's Boring Life

>     Are you going to do this before or after finding the cask of
>amontilado?
>
><The Ronin, Nevermore

Well, I guess I'll have to steal the whole keyring and then ransack his office.
Probably he has a hidden compartment in his desk drawer.  Actually, a glass of
sherry is the socially acceptable drink for a closet-locking.  Port may
substitute in a pinch but you'd want to blame it on someone else.

Chris
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 08:36:38 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      list life
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This is converted to Listserv terms from Fidonet terms....but seems to
cover various recent hassles....

The Three Rules of List Life

1. Thou shall not be excessively annoying.

2. Thou shall not be too easily annoyed.

3. If you don't like these rules, start your own list.


dan
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ@ZENO.MSCD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: !!
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From: harwell@BANDW.PANAM.EDU

} >----------------------------Original message----------------------------
} >What's the deal? Can't I make sexist comments anymore!?!?!
} >
} >-abh
} >------------------------------------------------------------------------
} >Sure, as long as you're well-insulated.
} >
} >JAG
}
} Typical male chauvanist remark!

     It is a sign of polite society to speak to someone in their own
language.  JAG was just being polite to you.

The Ronin, who decided to shoot back in a pre-emptive strike
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*** Resending note of 09/27/92 22:37


>everybody will think is most sarcastic.  Now, is that clear or is
>--ggs

no

Don, easily confused.....
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:45:00 CDT
From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
 <TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Mama Judith

>> judith/p, G, the Lob, and I irritated.  Such a person has recently
>                          ^^^^^^

> *(SIC)*

See how irritated that person made me??  I forgot he made *me*
irritated!

Steve Karlson
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From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Another Motorcycle Story
              27 Sep 1992 10:15:45 EDT from <BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

>abh, now we know where your middle name comes from:  it's the sound of
>a fine-tuned four-cylinder winding out.  "Burton, burton...."

      I think that should be "revving up" instead of "winding out."

      brad
From: harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell)
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Date: 6 Oct 92 13:38:17 GMT
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On Tue, 6 Oct 1992 torkel@SICS.SE wrote:

>   I don't think it's a good idea to keep any category of people off the
> list. If the VMI stuff does in fact provoke us, we have only ourselves to
> blame.

Oh, torkel, you're so *Zen*.

-abh
"one hand clapping"
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:15:09 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Anne on faked addresses

>I'm afraid it's true that Tushar did get some mail-faking tips from me, but
>as I was describing the key step, he interrupted me mid-sentence and
>finished the thought, indicating he already knew enough SMTP basics to
>figure the rest out himself. He apparently had just never thought of
>putting anything but valid address information in the MAIL FROM line.

I own up most humbly that I HAVE faked mail before. It was to myself.
I have seen the result and it is hardly untraceable.


>But yes, the Santa posting was almost certainly Tushar,

As you wrote to Chris. You wrote that TO CHRIS! What a scream!


>         Interestingly, he asked me if I had ever posted fake addressed
>mail and I replied no, to which he replied, "why not?" to which I responded
>that I didn't want to get the reputation of someone who posts fake
>addresses.

Everything points to Tushar! Everything, I say! "Why not", I asked in a sly
voice, after all.

Think about Ernie Garcia and the chihuahuas, Harwell. Ernie, if you don't
remember, is the kid from Ellensburg.

tushar
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O. K. so here it comes, folks.  You will find that in each
contest, I have suppressed a few names in the interest of good
taste and sensibility.  So you will have to guess who the
*****'s are.  If any of you want to volunteer to have your
name broadcast as a <baddie>, let me know and I will re-edit
this list accordingly.  But, most of you know who you are.
If this offends you unduly, you may delete the next five or
six posts with the subject line ATEP.
....
Oh, yeah.... I'm still tabulating who won the guessing game.
You won't get that until tomorrow afternoon sometime.  Hate
to make you wait......  the pictures of the <bebe> are
in the works.
....your friend and constant companion...
--ggs
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:14:51 CDT
From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Santa
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> Oh, f***, that was my first e-oops. Was supposed to go to Chris. I suppose
> my underwear is hanging all around my ankles by now. Maybe I ought to unsub
> from the list in protest or something.

I didn't realize it was an e-oops.  That makes me want to go back and
reread it.  Maybe I'll find it in usenet or the archives.  The thought
of reading private mail from abh to Chris brings out the voyeurism in me.
And to think I let the posting just slip right by unappreciated.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         QXN148@URIACC.URI.EDU
Subject: Re: ATEP (11 - 15

>Posted on 29 Sep 1992 at 00:04:50 by Uriacc Mailer (002033)
>
>ATEP  (11 - 15)
>
>Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:03:00 EDT
>Reply-To:     English Language Discussion Group <WORDS-L@UGA.BITNET>
>From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
>
>> 13)  asks the dumbest questions:
>>      WINNER:    *******  (10)
>>      Runner-up: any newbie (3)
>>      Also rans: ***** / ***** (2)
>>                 natalie/*ts*/karen/lisa/gt/don/brad
>> .
What? Who? ME? Well, at least I'm in good company
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