HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: e2jovi3@etek.chalmers.se (Joakim Viktorsson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: warm leatherette recent version?
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:03:00 GMT
Reply-To: e2jovi3@etek.chalmers.se (Joakim Viktorsson)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN

In article <1992Nov16.170859.1@acad2.alaska.edu>, asgad@acad2.alaska.edu writes|> In aINNrhm@life.ai.mit.edu>, gts@gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Evil Microwizard) writes:

|> I know that Pankow has done a cover.  You can find it on the "Freedom for the
|> Slaves" ep and the Geislia [and I'm sure I butchered that spelling"  The
|> original was done by Controlled Bleeding, but I don't know which or where (If
|> you already knew that I'm not trying to show off, but I didn't know if you knew
|> its source.)

sorry, but methinks daniel miller, a.k.a. the normal, made the original _warm leatherette_, which was in fact the first mute records release.
Giesela it is.

				/an electric elk called simon
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From: tmoravan@nyx.cs.du.edu (Tom Moravansky)
Subject: Re: PTV for sale
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 17:57:21 GMT


re: Allegory & Self marble vinyl _
I paid $10 for mine (#236 of 666) from Tower and sold it recently
for $6.  Then I bought the cd.  Why buy stuff just to collect? buy it
to listen to.

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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: soleilmoon
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Could someone post the address for Soleilmoon? While you're at it, if you
knowof any other places that hard to find stuff could be ordered from
that'd be great.

 St. Anthony

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         |   \ |  || Ph     Laszt uns're Schaedel vom Pilzbewuchs befreien!
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          \ / /      Ph               aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu
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From: DICKENJD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (Orpheus)
Subject: Re:  Who is William S. Burrows
Organization: Fuzzy Logic Laboratories
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:56:31 GMT
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In <19270@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> gfcardinale@ucdavis.edu writes:

> I believe he's also a murderer.
	Well, he did kill his wife (to the best of any witnesses' 
recollection) accidentally, although WSB makes no bones about 
some sort of subconcious desire to kill her (He does object strongly 
to being called a murderer).
> 
> Greg C.
> gfcardinale@ucdavis.edu


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From: vidarh@stud.cs.uit.no (Vidar Hanssen)
Subject: Re: Numb?
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:59:26 GMT

|>   As far as I know, the only Cds released by Numb are the Christmeister
|> full length and the Bliss single.  Does anybody know if there are any that I
|> am missing or if they are going to record another release?  It's great shit!
|> Thanks.

Their self-titeled debut album has just been released by KK records with two
extra tracks. A new one is to follow early 93.


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From: ben@NeoSoft.com (Ben Ettinger)
Subject: Sol Invictus new cd
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:39:07 GMT

Not being an expert on the group, but I beleive that Sol Invictus has
released a new CD called something to the likes of 'The King and Queen'. If
anyone has gotten it, or is getting it soon, could you post a review of it in
here? I'm going to get it regardless, but I'm pretty eager to hear about it
first, like if it's going to be better than what I've heard about their
previous album to this one, 'Let us Prey'.

ben.

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From: ogd@selway.umt.edu (ozymandias G desiderata)
Subject: Re: In stereo!!! <<--->> !!!oerets nI
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:00:53 GMT

	Chrisx (pronounced Kriss Kross), I'm glad to know that you
love us so much and want your voice to be heard so badly that you
posted in stereo. Perhaps you and your friends should go somewhere
else until you can post like literate, sane human beings who don't
have cattle prods jammed up their asses.

ozymandias
----
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		 give me your wallet and I'll tell you your past."
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(ogd@selway.umt.edu)

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----
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From: Mark.Wagner@f99.n121.z1.FidoNet.Org (Mark Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: delerium
Date: 14 Nov 92 21:42:04 GMT

Does anybody know if any delerium cds besides "euphoric" have been
released in the US?  I am not rich, and the imports i have seen cost
$20 each.

Also, are there any other groups that make songs similar to "grave
mentor" and "sorrow" on "euphoric"?  I find those songs amazing.


mark wagner

wagner@macc.wisc.edu
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From: dbl50872@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel Brian Lake)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Pigface 'Fook' Review?
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:34:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bxs41y.27K
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Could someone please post a review of the latest pigface album Fook,
Is it like their first two, or more noise ridden, or more dance?
If my favs by them are Little Sisters (Gub), Blood and Sand (WTM),
Suck, Stowaway (Even though I've heard this is a Connelly song), Bushmaster,
and Tapeworm is Ok.
Think I would like it, especially since I've seen it for $10?

-Danl

I'm ahead of my time - but only by a week.    -Too Much Joy
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From: lensbs@rs6215.ecs.rpi.edu
Subject: Ministry Tour
Keywords: 
  Does anyone have the ministry tour dates for posting.  I'm going to school in
Reply-To: lensbs@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:42:39 GMT

the Albany area and was wondering if they'd be playing around here.
		thanks
                  sean


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From: saiki@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (L. Saiki)
Subject: BAD SEEDS (was Re: Einstuerzende Neubauten Tour ?)
Summary: when ?  where ?
Organization: University of Hawaii, Department of Physics 
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:54:17 GMT

HI!

A Bad Seeds tour in Japan?  Does anyone know if and when they will be
in Nagoya and Okinawa?

Will they be stopping in Hawaii too?

-- 
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From: u0a38@seq1.cc.keele.ac.uk (LJ Barton)
Subject: Suzanne Vega (Was Re: RMI and interminable whinings...)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 19:13:10 WET
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   HIGH THERE...
		 In message <sf3JtcS00Uh7M5P0ZS@andrew.cmu.edu> 'pern' writes:

>        "i feel the urge to buy a suzanne vega album!..."



                  And WHAT's wrong with Suzanne Vega ???


                                 :)


	Cheers,	
		Lol    (Freelance thinker and imagineer)

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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Samples in Ministry's "So What"
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In article <9211161113@ltrnativ.UUCP> adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Motters
ead) writes:
>Thanks to all those who sent me the lyrics to 'So What' and 'Thieves'.
>
>But I disagree with the interpretation of a sample in 'So What'.  The va
ious
>lyrics I received quoted one sample as saying "kill for the thrill", but
after
>listening to the sample several times it sounds more like "kill or be ki
led".
>
>Anybody agree/disagree?
>
>
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 I'm sure this has already been discussed, but I thought I'd point out
that almost all of the samples from Faith Collapsing are from Fareinheit
451, a great movie based on the great book by Ray Bradbury.

St. Anthony

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          \ / /      Ph               aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: hagstrop@oberon.mathcs.carleton.edu (Paul Hagstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN hidden tracks- names?
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:19:49 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona Physics Department

In article <1ej1mlINNeer@menudo.uh.edu> st1qb@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
> In article <By0Eop.GHs@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)  
writes:
> I dont have the CD in front of me but the names of the tracks are on the
> CD. Yes, I own it....so flame me.  But anyway, if my memory is correct 
> they are on the back or on one of the flaps in very small print.  Although
> they are on tracks 98 and 99 they are listed as track 7 and 8 (if i recall) 
> in very small print, by the copyright bs.  I know one is a mix of SUCK
> from Pigface.

What's listed on my 3" is only the copyright info, not the titles.
--
schmotsignature.
Paul Hagstrom
(hagstrop@carleton.edu)
From: bkeeley@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Brian Keeley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Ministry Live (Was: Re: Ministry video)
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:57:23 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <41408@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cse264ce@cs.ucsd.edu (....What Is?....) writes:
>I'm sure this has been posted before, but can someone ID all the people
>in "In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up"?
>
>I recognize Al and Paul, and someone told me that's Nivek Ogre with
>...did I miss anyone?  I'm going to see them at the O'Brien Pavillion
>in San Diego, CA on December 29th (general admission!!!!!!) and would
>like to know who the heck is on stage.
>
Actually, a better question given the intent of the author and the
fact that Al goes through band members like most people go through
toilette paper is "Who is touring with Al this time?"  Presumably,
Al and Paul, but who else?  This question is particularly important
given that Pigface is going to be on tour at the same time.  So who
is going to be in Pigface?  Of the people who are sorta members of
both (Reiflin, Connolley, Atkins) where will they be?  Will Pigface
be the ATG-armed double-drummed band of the first tour... or the
single drummed, Mary Biker-fronted band of the second tour... or
will it be something else entirely?  Questions Questions. Any
answers?

Reality
Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:13642 alt.music.hardcore:473
From: JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: Ministry/Godflesh tour
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:08:30 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I would like to know also if they are coming to the Pittsburgh/Cleveland area
if anyone would be so kind.
Jill
From: john.walter@bville.gts.org (John Walter) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: NEW/OLD/DANCE/ORIGINAL
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Baudeville BBS - Toronto, Canada 416-283-0114 2200+ conferences
Reply-To: john.walter@bville.gts.org (John Walter) 

Greetings Industrials,

        Ok, this just a message to voice my opinion on the whole
*INDUSTRIAL* thing...

1) I listen to NITZER EBB, Front 242, NIN, Ministry, KMFDM, Skinny
Puppy, Etc...

2) When I first heard this music it was described to me as being
"INDUSTRIAL MUSIC"

3) I have nothing against the "ORIGINAL" industrial musicians, or their
fans.

4) I have yet to hear any music by the "ORIGINAL" industrial bands

5) So far all I have heard from fans of "ORIGINAL" industrial bands is
bitching and complaining, and calling "NEW" industrial fans poseurs etc.
 I think this is absurd.

6) How about the "ORIGINAL" industrial fans listen to their music, write
about it here in this base, and discuss their stuff

7) Fans of "NEW" "DANCE" industrial will post their messages here...

8) We'll leave each other alone and not comment on music which we
        a) dont like     or
        b) dont care about...

        Then we'll be one big happy family... (Yeah right!)

        John Walter             Binary
                                 Pulse
                                  Manipulation
                                   Team
         
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From: rrkeuche@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Rainer Keuchel)
Subject: Apocalypse Culture
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 10:42:23 GMT

I recently bought "The worst of Monte Cazazza" where is mentioned
the book Apocalypse Culture 2 on the sleeve.Can anyone tell me
who else appears in this book,if it's woth buying it and where
I can get it?  What about Apocalypse Culture 1?

--- Rainer

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From: conner@qucis.queensu.ca (Mike Conner)
Subject: Re: Nin
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:50:00 GMT

Just rented the movie "Rollerboys" for the hell of it.  Surprised to hear
NIN _Head like a hole_ being played in the background.
From: corr@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Daniel Corriveau)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Big Catholic Guilt Concert (Awesome)
Date: 16 Nov 1992 04:17:25 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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Keywords: ditto

For those of you out there who did not goto the show it is too bad.
They really put on a great show Saturday, and should be looked
into if you like good industrial music.  I was there with Jonathan
after the show and the band members are too cool!!!!  They will be in 
Rhode Island this Thursday, and will have a few other shows in the area
soon.  Hope all of you out there get to see them play.
They will really kick your ass!!!!!!!!!!
Daniel

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From: torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Random Tox)
Subject: Re: Nin
Organization: The Durex Blender Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:50:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.233309.24940@rtsg.mot.com> houser@rtsg.mot.com (Elizabeth J. Houser) writes:
>>
>>JAA>don't  see  what all the fuss is about. I just bought a  really great
>>JAA>yamaha keyboard, and if anyone can tell me how to get in touch with WAX
>>JAA>STACKS, I'd really like it, because I want to get signed. I'm going to call
>>
>>     OH GOD.  That's WAX TRACKS.  And throw out your Yamaha and go
>
>Try again.
>
>It's Wax Trax.
>

	With regard to the original poster:
		Get a fucking clue.

Hey guys! I just got a really keen "My first Synth!" Do you think Bill
Leeb will let me replace him? I'll sign myself to Mainstream Testicles!
Great label, although I'm clueless. 

	Fnord.

	- Random Tox

-- 
(C) 1992 by Random Tox and The Durex Blender Corporation
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	"If this is the place for you, then herd."
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From: scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: Nin
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:18:31 GMT

I did see the movie(lame, but interesting drug scene)
and I remember the scene as kind of like retro punks hanging around
some toy-store/amusement prak/klub....

coprophiliac
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: re: Geeks and Illicit Substanses don't Mix
Date: 22 Nov 1992 21:02:50 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
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NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz

In article <By017K.9B7@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp) writes:
>
>Like I said.
>
>Hit the reefer a little hard today, Red?    
>
>
>M a t t h e w N. S h a r p
>matthew@scotch.cc.purdue.edu

Its times like these I love sysop priv...

Kill PID (beats the shit out of kill files)


!No offence babe

--
Red

"I'm a little ray of sunshine on a cloudy day" 
Chris Smith - skinhead gravedigger 
- Island Bay Council Candidate McGillicuddly Serious Party
Organization: University of Maryland at Baltimore
Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 16:20:39 EST
From: Robert Haskins <RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Nitzer Ebb (was RE: open letter...Bill Clinton)
 <1d7t8vINNhg6@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu><1dbmo6INN5b9@lester.appstate.edu>
 <BxFDHr.Lv4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> <92314.134808RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET>
 <BxM5CD.Fww@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

Ben writes:
>
> Robert Haskins <RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET> writes:
>
> >Have you heard any of those pieces?
>
> All of them, in fact.
>
> And Nitzer Ebb isn't even in the same class.

We weren't talking about the "same class," we were talking about
the same style.  I said Nitzer Ebb fits in the same stylistic class
as early minimalism.  I hope this clarifies your confusion.

Bob
From: markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Ka Spel and Death Angel ??!!
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 13:18:00 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: like communism, but nicer.

coan@griffin (Brian M Coan) writes:

> I have a live tape by the speed-metal band Death Angel recorded at
> the Paradiso club in Amsterdam back in 1988. And it was produced by...
> ....Edward Ka Spel. Wow! Pretty wierd, eh? Actually, when I saw that,
> I was hoping Ed had spiced up Death Angel's live show. But sadly,
> the tape's pretty dull. I'm not sure what Ed even did. Maybe he fell
> asleep or was in a trance behind the mixing board. Oh well. Still
> some interesting trivia, eh?


	I always thought Ka Spel was an out-of-touch artsy who
would have problems figuring out an electric razor -- let alone
a mixing console. 






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From: MSZABO@kentvm.kent.edu
Subject: Re: KMFDM
Organization: Kent State Univ.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:08:55 GMT

What's funny though - and the band even admits this - is that the actual
translation for KMDFM is "No majority for the pity."
 
POINT
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: an309@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Robocopulation Thread - An Abridged History
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:13:01 GMT

Brief history of "Robo-Copulation"  + related thread:

1. Started in alt.industrial (perhaps by conspiracy????)
2. Moved swiftly to alt.cyberpunk and alt.sex.
3. Moved to rec.music.industrial, then 1000 million other groups.
4. Interest in one story (the plane-sex story -ahhhhhhhhh....) generated
	a backlash from one Christian fundamentalist - crossposted into 
	alt.sex.bondage, alt.sex.stories.d
5. Which started a whole rash of noxious discussion about "Perhaps we should 
   	learn the teachings of Jesus" and "Ye Golden Rule"
6. Which then stimulated a counter-backlash in a.s.b, e.g. w/ the thread "F15 
   	pant pant pant pant pant....."
7. Which then got crossposted all over to places like alt.politics.sex, etc.
8. And will be coming to a newsgroup near you!!!!!  
	This thread seems to have no end.  Airplane sex seems to be the fastest
	growing trend in cyberology.  Maybe it deserves its own newsgroup.

I haven't had an account for as long as this thread's been going.  Most of
this information I have gathered recently from my own reading and countless
e-mail messages bounced back and forth.

Info I still need:
	-Does anybody know who wrote, or have a transcript of the "F-34 -
	Ohhhh... no.." story which stimulated all this discussion?

	-Who started this thread + what was the original message? Was it a 
	story?

	-Who is "DETH HEDD", why is he/she such a "legend"  I get these weird
	e-mail messages saying "don't you read r.m.i. well could you fetch me
	DETH HEDD's fFourth and Final Story if you have a better newsfeed.."
	Is he/she the person who started all this (my suspicions)

Oh well, I plan to follow along until this thread stops being interesting, 
posting every once in a while.  It really should get its own newsgroup
(alt.sex.robocopulation???)


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From: bchang@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ben Chang)
Subject: Re: That NIN fella IS HE DEAD???????
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 18:03:16 GMT


Reznor died a while back.  TVT records used voice-analysis techniques to
make it sound like it was  him singing on the new album, but it was really
a computer!  That's why Broken sounds so different from Pretty Hate
Machine!  
  ben

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