From: ina_pearce@actew.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.personals
Subject: Re: Straight, gay, whatever....
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:35:38 EST
Organization: ACT Electricity & Water

In article <BvM7CB.9o@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, darkmoor@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Darkmoore) writes:
> In article <1992Oct2.141825.78@actew.oz.au>, ina_pearce@actew.oz.au writes:

the following response was expected, respected and appreciated.
yes I am anti-gay, because I don't see it as 'biologically' normal - but that 
is only my opinion and everyone is entitled to their own...

>> >                    A Questionnaire on Heterosexuality
>> >                    ----------------------------------
>> > 
>> > 1. What do you think caused your heterosexuality?
>> being born
>> > 
>> > 2. When and how did you decide you were heterosexual?
>> again, when i was born and It wasn't a decision
>> > 
>> > 3. Isn't it possible that your heterosexuality is just a phase you may
>> >    grow out of?
>> probably when i die...
> 
> 
>   The answers given for the first three questions could also support the
>   argument for homosexuality.  I felt like pointing that out to ina_pearce.
>   Didn't seem to get the idea, I bet!
> 
I take it you're stating that people can be born homosexual.
I can't understand this, could you please explain.

> 
>> > 4. Is it possible that your heterosexuality stems from a neurotic fear
>> >    of others of the same sex?
>> no because I fear women more than i fear men
>> > 5. If you've never slept with another person of the same sex, isn't it
>> >    possible that you just need a good gay lover?
>> my lovers are always happy :-)
> 
>   My lovers have always been happy also.  However this does not mean they 
>   were women.  You also said you fear women more than men, hmmmmmmmmmm...
>   interesting.
> 
I fear psychological pain a lot more than physical pain and I feel women
 inflict this more than men (no offense to those who don't)

>> > 6. To whom have you disclosed your heterosexual tendencies? How did
>> >    they react?
>> I haven't needed to
> 
>   If you haven't disclosed any heterosexual tendencies to anyone, then how 
>   can you say your lovers have all been satisfied?  Something to think about
>   ain't it?
> 
you can never really tell that they have been - you just have to take their
word for it :-)

>> > 7. Why do you heterosexuals feel compelled to reduce others into your
>> >    lifestyle?
>> no need to, they were all born the same way
> 
>   Not everyone is born heterosexual!  Some people are born homo/bi-sexual.
>   In fact some of the greatest figures in history were non-heterosexuals.
> 
again from you're response to Q1,2,3  - please explain
> 
>> > 8. Why do you insist on flaunting your heterosexuality? Can't you just
>> >    be who you are and keep it quiet?
>> because I'm proud to be normal
> 
>   So, you are saying that homo/bisexuality is ABnormal!  I'm am very proud
>   to be gay and I think I am normal.  
> 
I was talking 'biologically' normal.

> 
>> > 9. Would you want your child to be heterosexual, knowing the problems
>> >    he/she would have to face?
>> i don't see it a problem to shit out of a normal size hole
> 
>   I shit out a normal size hole!  By that I mean that I have never had anal
>   sex and I am more than sure many lesbians are not engaging into anal sex.
>   Seems to me that you are making assumptions about gays.
> 
OK  I apologise for this one - it was a bit offensive but it was all i could
think of on the spur of the moment.

maybe I should have said my child would be born heterosexual and if he/she
decided later in life that they were gay - it would be their decision whether
I like it or not.

> 
>> > 10. A disproportionate number of child molesters are heterosexual. Do
>> >     you consider it safe to expose your child to heterosexual teachers?
>> that's funny - all the child-molestors i've read about are men molesting
>>  young boys
> 
>   Whats your point?  They were still straight men who did those hateful things.
> 
if they were 'straight' why did they molest boys?

> 
>> > 11. With all the societal support that marriage receives, the divorce
>> >     rate is still spiralling upward. why are there so few stable
>> >     relationhips among heterosexuals?
>> because women have become so domineering - but at least we can still have 
>> children with parents (note the plural!)
> 
>   I see, not only are you anti-gay/bi/lesbian, but you are also anti-woman
>   also.  I know some feminists who would like to meet you!
> 
so domineering was not a good choice of words but I'm sure you know what I meant
I did not say whether I was for or against - I just stated an observation.
besides, anti-feminist does not mean anti-women although that's another subject

> 
>> > 12. Why do heterosexuals place so much emphasis on sex?
>> because it's the source of life and our sole purpose - without it we wouldn't
>> be here
> 
>   Heaven forbid we have fun when we have sex!  Let me guess you must be a
>   fundimentalist christian, am I right?
> 
no you are wrong - I've never even been to church! I was just stating a fact - 
don't see how religion entered into it. yes the fun does put more emphasis on
sex :-) BUT I still don't think that is it's purpose.

>> > 13. Considering the menace of over-population, how could the human race
>> >     survive if everyone were heterosexual?
>> ever heard of birth control
> 
>   Well, at least we know that you aren't catholic.
> 
I didn't know I had to be catagarised. can't you be a believer without being a
follower?

>> > 14. If you needed help, could you trust therapists who were heterosexual
>> >     to be objective? Don't you feel that they might be inclined to
>> >     influence you in the direction of their own leaning?
>> yes because they also were born that way they also didn't make a decision
> 
>   Niether do gay therapists.  I have never heard of anyone chosing to be
>   something other than who they are!
> 
again see Q1,2,3. How can it not be a choice? Nobody puts a gun to your head
and says be queer or else, do they?!

> 
>> > 15. How can you become a whole person if you limit yourself to compulsive,
>> >     exclusive heterosexuality and fail to develop your natural, healthy,
>> >     homosexual potential?
>> you just contradicted yourself - hoe can homosexuality be 'natural'?
> 
>   How can heterosexuality be considered 'natural?'  It seems to me the only
>   good use for heterosexuals is to breed so that we, the sexual elite, 
>   won't have to sully ourselves with that task.
> 
OK then if you don't want to 'breed' then you can be happy with your 'choice'.
but I still feel it is our 'natural/normal' purpose to 'breed' :-)

> 
>> > 16. There seem to be very few happy heterosexuals. Techniques have been
>> >     developed that might enable you to change if you want to. Have you
>> >     considered trying aversion therapy?
>> 
>> are you saying homosexuals are happy. they have the same normal problems as
>> heterosexuals with a lot of abnormal problemms thrown in.
>> x + y will always be greater than x (while y>0 :-)
>   
>   The only real difference between homosexuals and heterosexuals is that the
>   heterosexuals are trying to dominate over the homosexuals and change them
>   because they (heterosexuals) know that we (homosexuals) are their betters!
> 
what makes you better? that seems to be a hefty statement. I don't think we are
trying to dominate - just don't agree.

> 
>   Darkmoore.
> 
>

Drew.