Organization: Virginia Department of Health
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.christia
Date:         Sun, 20 Dec 1992 15:41:04 EST
From:         "Michael A. Kline" <MKLINE@VDH.BITNET>
Subject:      Boycotts, Rights, & Hypocricy

    From 700 Club, 12/17/92 - Boycotts, rights, hypocrisy, and sodomy.

    Pat: Well the mayor of Philadelphia has joined the mayors of Atlanta
and New York in the boycott of Colorado. The Philadelphia mayor says he
will not attend next years conference of mayors in Colorado Springs. The
boycott came about after Colorado voters approved an amendment which said
"We don't want to extend civil rights protection to another class, IE:
Homosexuals." And all of this is happening at a time when many states, 22
or 23, outlaw the practice of homosexuality and actually make it a crime.
Gayland Teathrow brings us this report on the anomaly.

    GT: With President Elect Bill Clinton hoping to make homosexuality
acceptable in the military, attention is once again being focused on gay
sex acts, or sodomy, prohibited in many state laws. Legal Paul Morken.

    PM: Family Law Scholar: Typically a statute would define sodomy as
use of the anus or oral copulation.

    GT: And until 1961, all 50 states had sodomy laws.

    PM: In 1961 was the first time a state legislature appealed, or let
me put it this way, decriminalized sodomy laws. That was the state of IL.

    GT: Today, the District of Columbia, US Military, and 24 states have
sodomy laws in force, primarily in the south and mountain west. In
President Elect Clinton's own Arkansas, the penalty for violating that
state's anti-sodomy law is a fine of up to $1,000 and as much as 1 years
incarceration. The law in Texas is now before that state's Supreme Court,
and Kentucky's highest court stuck down it's sodomy law in September. Dr.
Morken says the state's case was weak.

    PM: The state's supreme court noted in its opinion that the
Commonwealth of Kentucky didn't present ANY witnesses in support of the
sodomy law, nor did they present ANY expert scientific or social science
research.

    GT: Meanwhile in Georgia, the state's law against sodomy has NOT
hindered it's boycott of Colorado. (MAKS> Don't do as I do, do as I
say..) Colorado citizens voted in November to bar any attempts to grant
homosexuals special rights.

    Ironically, Georgia's anti-sodomy law sailed through he US Supreme
Court in 1986 and was upheld. Then Justice Lewis Powel voted for the law
in a narrow 5 to 4 decision.

    PM: Now the reason why that's also interesting in terms of 5-4 is in
1990, Justice Powel was quoted as saying that he thought he probably made
a mistake in that decision.

    GT: However, historically western civilization has not viewed its
stand against sodomy as mistaken, but as a law with a positive purpose.

    PM: So if we all became homosexuals, basically the society, within 1
generation, would be extinct.

    GT: The more specific goals for regulating sodomy across the
centuries were to uphold marriage, to preserve public morals, and bolster
health. And health has become a more prominent reason in recent years
because of rampant venereal diseases especially prevalent among
homosexuals.

    PM: There has to be more direct form of confrontation on AIDS
inhibition, Political Correctness doesn't solve it. So yes, sodomy laws
protect the homosexual, from death.

    GT: But homosexuals contend that sodomy laws violate their right to
privacy, that efforts to enforce them amount to nothing less police state
actions. Morken says though that the general welfare of the nation is at
risk with rampant homosexuality. He claims states without sodomy laws are
subject to a lowering of the moral climate, and pro-homosexual education
in the schools, (MAKS> Oh come on, I supposed like New York? You bet.) as
well as future problems.

    PM: There is a strong movement within the homosexual community to
remove *ALL* age limitations with regards to sodomy. (MAKS> But just
because homosexuals want to do this, doesn't mean they wouldn't be good
teachers. After all look at all the heterosexuals trying to get age
limitations removed for raping girls. NOT.)

    GT: This threat to children, combined with lax enforcement of sodomy
and sex crime laws, Morken says, could engender further breakdown in
society. He also contends that much of the reason sodomy laws have been
dropped or not enforced, comes from the agenda of millions of selfish
heterosexuals. These promiscuous millions want no laws limiting their
sexual desires, whether for fornication, adultery or pornography.

    PM: The gay rights movement is basically piggy-backing on another
much broader movement. Homosexuals would never be a strong viable force
in and of themselves.

    GT: Reporting for CBN News, I'm Gayland Tethrow.

    Pat: It's amazing that Atlanta, which has a law that makes
homosexuality a crime, is banning Colorado which says we won't give
homosexuals a preferred status under law. Isn't that incredible? You talk
about hypocrisy! I tell you, some of you folks listening in Georgia, you
ought to write your city council in Atlanta. That is the most
hypocritical stance that I have ever heard. And the same thing with Bill
Clinton. He has a sodomy law in Arkansas. They have never repealed, in 12
years of being governor, he never made an effort to repeal the sodomy law
in Arkansas, which makes it a $1000 fine or 1 year in prison for
participating in sodomy. Isn't that incredible?

    Ben Kinchlow: It really is. It's almost as people are saying, "Well,
it really doesn't make any difference what the law says. We want to do
what we want to do and we don't care about much else. And if you disagree
with us, you don't have a right to disagree with us."

    Pat: You know, the District of Columbia brought an action against
Georgetown University that said, "We have a law protecting homosexual
activity and you there fore must give preference to homosexual groups on
your campus even though you as Catholics don't agree with it." They
forced them to do that, and YET in DC, it's against the law. So they're
telling the Catholic Church "You have to bring into your society people
who are breaking our law because we have another law that says it's a
preferred group." Now, you tell me that isn't screwy.

    And the Supreme Court, 5-4, upheld Georgia's sodomy law. They said
"We are not about to legalize homosexuality in America." Supreme Court
said that 3-4 years ago.

    Ben: It's like what can we do. I live in Virginia. There's an
anti-sodomy law here. What can we do?

    Pat: ...and the least they can do is say, "Well, we're not going to
teach our young people to engage in activity which our own law says is
criminal." And that's what's happening. We're teaching children to engage
in activities which are criminal. That makes no sense. But a lot of
things in our society make no sense.

    MAKS> Well, that's it.

    Maks.

    He who justifies the wicked, and he who condemns the righteous,
    Both of them alike are an abomination to the Lord. Prov. 17:15.