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From: mckiern@wraith.csee.usf.edu (Richard John McKiernan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Putting Printer Jobs on Hold ( Novell 3.11)
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:10:53 GMT
Reply-To: mckiern@wraith.csee.usf.edu (Richard John McKiernan)
Organization: University of South Florida, Department of Computer Science and Engineering



   The Million Dollar Question?  Can I have a user's job submitted to a
print queue put on hold so it won't go straight to the printer.



    I currently have a print server that services two queue's.  One for
a laser printer and one for a line printer.  In many cases the type of
paper or fonts for each printer needs to be changed throughout the day. 
Thus I need a method of allowing all users to send jobs to a queue
without immediately printing.  I'm currently using Pconsole and one of
its options to keep the print server for taking the jobs from the queue
until the printer is correctly setup.  The problem
is that I would just like to leave pconsole running with the display
showing all the jobs in a queue.  Then if all jobs were on hold I'd
allow the user to
take their job(s) off hold and only theirs when they had the printer
correctly set.  
    I found one package I-Queue, but this requires some setting up from
each user at their workstation every day.  I would perfer that the users
would not have to do anything but taking their jobs off hold.

 Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: pat@mousetrap.canton.mi.us (Patrick Kehoe)
Subject: Problems with novell updates/patches
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:08:39 GMT
Organization: Mousetrap/Vivid

I have been having a lot of problems with the patches and updates that 
Novell provides.  Am I alone and doing something stupid, or are the patches
and updates not allways completely tested?

1st problem:  
isadisk.dsk - 7/8/92 - v3.11 - When using this driver on an ultrastor 12f
esdi controller, and moving alot of data to the server, the drive with 
get a million errors and deactivate.  When using the 2/15/91 driver, I 
have no problems at all.  

2nd problem:
xmdfix - 6/23/92 - v1.01 - I downloaded the new 311pt8.zip file for the
new patches to version 3.11.  I dutifully installed the new patches.  Then 
late last night, I started to do a backup using sbackup v3.11b and my HP
35480 DAT drive.  After I sucessfully selected the server to backup and
the device to backup to, I tried to login to the selected server, and got
the usual "Please wait" box.  It usually takes 2 to 3 seconds to login, but
with the xmdfix loaded, it never logs in, and just hangs.  If I remove the
xmdfix, everything works fine.

And one question:  What happened to pserv2.zip?  I seems to have been
removed from ftp.novell.com.

Any help that can be provided would be appreciated.

Pat

-- 
Patrick Kehoe                               Vivid Visions, Inc.
pat@mousetrap.canton.mi.us                  9282 General Drive Suite 130
(Stupid quote coming soon...)               Plymouth, MI  48170
From: jmfres11@ucs.usl.edu (Karthikeyan Gurnswamy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Utility To Close Spool For Just One Job?
Date: 2 Oct 92 07:34:21 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette

In article <BvHEGp.26u@sti.com> westes@sti.com (Will Estes) writes:
>Does anyone know of a netware utility that will close the print spool
>but leave the capture command on the printer port intact for future
>printing?  It is an incredible defect in the architecture of the current
>capture command that I can issue multiple print commands within the
>timeout period for the spool and have these jobs all concatenate
>together.  This sounds more like a mainframe computer printing system
>than a PC print spooler that was designed with naive end users in mind.
>
>In any case, I would like a utility that let's me do the following:
>	print jobone 
>	closejob
>	print jobtwo
>	closejob
>	etc., etc.
>
>Thanks!
>
>
>-- 
>Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com

Try ENDCAP after you print the job. To spool again, you must type CAPTURE again.
ENDCAP works two ways. The first one is it lets you access the local LPT1. The
second one is closing the print job and next time you run CAPTURE you'll get 
a banner. Hope that helps...

Karthik
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
From: pyrros@braindamaged.cis.udel.edu (Christos T. Pyrros)
Subject: Need help with NACS/NASI 3.0
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 02:23:21 GMT

I just installed an 8-port NACS on a Runtime 3.11 server.  Everything is
working fine, and all of the NASIDIAG routines indicate everything is
working (access, loopback tests, etc).

I was under the impression that the NASI TSR would allow "dumb" communcation
software to use the NACS, but there isn't anything in the manual about this.
To make things worse, we don't have any NACS/NASI-aware communications
software, so I'm as yet unable to actually use the NACS.

Any ideas?

Thanks,

Chris

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ntprlr@eskimo.celestial.com (NightProwler)
Subject: Re: Rebuilding the Desktop on Novell under Sys 7.0?
Organization: Ghost in the Shell
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:30:22 GMT

Dave Deitrich (deitrich@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Greetings,
: 
: I have a minor problem with our Novell server; the desktop on the mac side is
: in DESPERATE need of rebuilding.  I have the manuals but they only tell how
: to rebuild it under Sys 6.0, and unfortunately my site only runs Sys 7.0.  
: Could some helpful soul out there give me some hints on how to update it 
: under Sys 7.0?  I have supervisor priveleges and all that good stuff.  
: 

Y'know, we had the same problem here.  I went and looked it up on the Novell
Support Encyclopedia (on CD-ROM), and they said "Apple took the ability to 
re-build the desktop on network drives out of system 7.  Go to a machine 
with system 6 and do it there...."

I kid you not....
-- 
# NightProwler -- I live in the night	| "When the going gets wierd,
# Internet: NtPrlr@eskimo.celestial.com |  The Wierd turn Pro."
# CompuServe: 75730,243			|  --Dr. Hunter S. Thompson
# 			 [Standard Disclaimer Applies]
From: mcollins@db.novell.com (Marty Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: NFS 1.2 UNIX->Netware Problems
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:01:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: novell.1992Oct6.170152.29160
Organization: Novell, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

$davee@sasb.byu.edu (Dave Edmunds - MIS Hardware) writes:
: I am having a little probelm with NFS.  A couple of months ago, I installed 
: NFS and got the printing working, the instructions seemed pretty 
: straightforward.  But now I am setting it up again, and the UNIX machine 
: says either network unreachable (SCO 3.2.4) or no LPR access(unknown type).  
: As far as I can tell, both the UNIX machines and the NFS are set up 
: correctly.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.


		Can You ping Netware from SCO? ---NO Go back to Netware
						     TCPIP config.
			  |
			  |
			 Yes 
			
		Do you have TCP 1.2 from SCO?--NO  Get it from SCO
			  |
			  |
		       	 Yes
: 
		Have you correctly set up printing on SCO?--NO Use rlpconfig.
			  |
			  |
			 Yes
		Reply back with you config setup.




: 
: --Dave

--
		
	   A woman needs a man like a fish needs a bicycle.

	                				U2 
							Tryin to throw your
							arms around the world.

   Marty Collins
   Product Support
   NOVELL, INC.  San Jose, CA.        
   mcollins@novell.com 
   1-800-NETWARE  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kev@sol.acs.unt.edu (Kevin W. Mullet)
Subject: RJE from UNIX to IBM Mainframe over Novell SAA Gateway
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 03:47:40 GMT

In a nutshell:
We've got an IBM Mainframe running MVS, JES/2, and VTAM.  We use a
Novell SAA Gateway.  I'm getting (some year...) a SPARCstation from
which to do network mnanagement.  I want to manage the mainframe
resources from the SPARCstation, and they don't talk SNMP.  IBM Netview
costs about forty grand -- that means there's no way in the cosmos we
could get it.

Okay... here's my idea... run <something> on the UNIX workstation to
run native mainframe jobs on our big using RJE through our SAA gateway
that will give me the kind of information I need to manage host and
communication resources specific to our mainframe.

Question:
  Is there something I can run under SunOS on a SPARCstation that will
  do RJE through our Novell SAA Gateway?

As is normal convention, please reply to me through electronic mail.  If there
are any replies requesting that I post my results, I'll do so to this group.

-KwM-
-- 
Kevin Mullet <kev@unt.edu>                 |  ALL OPINIONS STATED ABOVE
Data Communication Analyst                 |  ARE MY OWN AND NOT ASSOCIATED
University of North Texas Computing Center |  IN ANY WAY WITH UNT.
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From: mishra@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Lanprotect info 
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:15:35 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

I need info on LANPROTECT - any help on this would be very much appreciated


Thanx!


CT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NOVELL AND LOADHIGH
From: eric.lentz@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Eric Lentz) 
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: eric.lentz@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Eric Lentz) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The GrapeVine BBS *** N. Little Rock, AR *** (501) 753-8121


JW>
JW>
JW>Eric Lentz * Got  it set  up that  way on  all the  machines at work a
JW>             haven't had  any problems. The only  problems I've heard 
JW>             (with  the DOS=HIGH  method) is  with some  SVGA cards, y
JW>             have to manually exclude some areas with the '-x' option 
JW>             EMM386.EXE.
JW>                                 = = =
JW>
JW>  I found  where we had read  that.. It was in  the readme of a  copy 
JW>  NetRoom we were looking at.

They'll try and tell you anything to sell a product! <g>

Seriously, FYI there have been reported bugs with XMSNETX & EMSNETX. 
Novell is currently beta testing the updates.

--- WinQwk 2.0b#69
From: cdoucet@mais.hydro.qc.ca (cdoucet)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Novell & pc/tcp problems
Date: 3 Oct 92 02:14:40 GMT
Organization: Hydro-Quebec (DSB)

I Everybody i just recently purchased novell NFS and pc/tcp

I want the user on the pc to be able to mount a novell drive using pc/tcp NFS
the error i am getting after i did an idmnt is

Autentification server failed to respond

It looks like the Novell version of NFS lacks an autentification server???

any help apreciated

Thanks Christian!

Please reply by E-mail .
From: jrd@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Looking for NOVELL Libraries 11-17 - Where to find ? - Need Help
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:47:27 GMT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Oct4.151609.18752@wheaton.wheaton.edu>, bob@david.wheaton.edu (Bob) writes:
> In article <1ag0anINNadc@agate.berkeley.edu> sowings@ocf.berkeley.edu (Sanford Owings) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct1.082727.21684@news.uni-stuttgart.de> wnkretz@ikesg1.energietechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Oliver Kretzschmar) writes:
>>>
>>>    Hey,
>>>
>>>    where can I find the NOVELL Libraries with number greater than 11 ?
>>
>>As far as I know NOVLIB's > 11 are only available through
>>CompuServe.  I could be mistaken, but I have also been unable
>>to access the other libraries.
>>
> 
> yes, this is true. stupid, but true.  i dunno if it is because of C-serve or
> Novell, but it is stupid.  not everyone can afford the $9873498798723948798234
> it costs to do anything beyond basic services on C-serve. since my school
> benefits not from having it[or so they think], and im not about to pay for it
> myself, we can't get at any of the stuff...
> 
> of course, if you KNOW what you're looking for, you can do an ARCHIE lookup and
> find SOME of the stuff, but supposedly noones allowed to setup a FTPsite
> specifically with novell's libs > 11 on them.
> 
> ohh well.
> 
> anyone want to start an underground ftp site???? ;-)
> 
> bob
> 
> -- 
> Bob Hollinger           <------------------------------------->
> Wheaton College         /        Bob@david.wheaton.edu        \  Disclaimer:
> CPO #1343               >      uunet!tellab5!wheaton!Bob      <
> Wheaton, Il  60187-5593 \_____________________________________/ [CENSORED...]
---------------
	Lets get realistic. The material posted on Compuserve does not become
public domain; it retains ownership of the poster. Compuserve is in business
and must show a profit to remain so. Material in libraries > 11 is not
posted by Novell, but is posted by third parties. Thus Novell can not assume
legal responsibility of copying those areas off Compuserve. If you really
want the material in those areas then Compuserve is the place to look, or
contact the owners and ask for copies. I should caution that wholesale
copying and reposting will likely receive attention from Compuserve and the
original owners; in essence this is taking away part of Compuserve's business
"products" without permission.
	Joe D. (no, I can't afford Compuserve either)
From: wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu (Rick Wagner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: IPX Programming Information
Date: 28 Sep 92 22:22:12 GMT
Organization: the Minnesota Daily (U of MN Student Newspaper)


I have the NetWare C libraries v1.2.  I've been trying to program IPX/SPX 
and have run into many problems sending and receiving packets.

Does anybody have any information and/or source code for any IPX code?  I've 
been trying to get this to work for over a week and I'm getting SOOOOO 
frustrated!  The manuals are so totally worthless.  I've read, no studied, 
them so many times that I'm starting to dream about ECBs and IPX Headers...

Thanks
Rick Wagner
wagner@main.mndly.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: Ted.Schafer@bbs.rn.com (Ted Schafer)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 09:29:40 EST
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Subject: what is unipolar?????
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Ted.Schafer@bbs.rn.com (Ted Schafer)
X-Posting-Software: UniBoard 1.10a S/N 145921

hello novell netties
     I was taking the networking tech test the other day and it had a
question on it about unipolar.I've looked in a couple of books but I 
cann't find anything about it,what is unipolar?
                               thanks in advance
                               ted schafer
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Availability of Novell Server for RT
From: hartmans@npc.ece.utexas.edu (Sam Hartman)
Date: 05 Oct 92 22:39:45 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Texas at Austin

	Is there a port of the Novell file server softwarefor the IBM RT/PC running AIX (IBM's System V UNIX)? I know there's a port of Novell for
the RISC/6000, but I am not sure if anyone ported Novell to the
earlier machine.
From: ebolog@elaine.ee.und.ac.za (EDWIN BOLOGNA : THIRD)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Require information on function E1h interrupt 21h.
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:14:32 GMT
Organization: Electronic Eng., Univ. Natal, Durban, South Africa
NNTP-Posting-Host: pc77.ee.und.ac.za


This function requires you to pass the addresses of a Request and Reply 
buffer. The problem is that I do not know the format of these buffers, 
except that the third byte is the subfunction of your choice.

If anyone has any information in this regard, could you please mail it to me.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Many Thanks.

	From
		E.B. (EBOLOG@ELAINE.EE.UND.AC.ZA).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Subject: Re: Printing via TCP/IP from Netware 3.11
Reply-To: ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Organization: Trent University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:07:55 GMT


Have you tried Novell's FLeX/IP?
--
====================================================================
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Trent University Computing & Telecommunications   fax: (705)748-1246
Peterborough, Ontario, Canada K9J 7B8     internet: kbrown@trentu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dazz@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr D.K. Woodman)
Subject: Lan "what-if" spreadsheets or programs
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 01:21:57 GMT

Does anyone know of any Lan tools avilable via anon ftp that are
suitable for calculating lan performance on a "what-if" basis.

I want to be able to get some ballpark figures for a new lan I am
designing and implementing.

thanks
dazz
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 28 Sep 1992 12:55:18 EDT
From: <IO92321@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Need Information regarding CNE....

Hi!!!
I am planning to take Certified Netware Engineer
(CNE) exam and i was wondering if someone out there
could help me regarding this. I know that Novell
offer courses regarding CNE but i don't know how
can i register for those courses etc......
I would appreciate if some one can help me.
     thanx
                        io92321@maine.maine.edu
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From: eseitz@athena.mit.edu (Elizabeth A Seitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: How NOT to advertise spooled services in NetWare for Macintosh
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:31:34 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Novell decided to deal with the 3.01 manuals cheaply and added a supplement
to document the 3.01 enhancements as opposed to revising the main manual.

You should have a slim booklet entitled "Netware for Macintosh v3.01
Supplement"  the switch you want -wf is documented there.

printername -o queuename -wf

will let DOS users print to queuename but appletalk users will only see the
printer itself in the appletalk zone where the printer resides.  Hope this
helps.
From: pjinkila@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca (Paul Inkila)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Where's an IDE driver for Netware 286
Keywords: IDE
Date: 6 Oct 1992 19:55:53 GMT
Organization: Lakehead University; Thunder Bay, Ont

I'm looking for an IDE disk driver for Netware 286.  Anyone have any
pointers?

Paul Inkila		pjinkila@thunder.lakeheadu.ca
Lakehead U.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: backman@vaxeline.ftp.com  (Larry Backman)
Subject: Re: Novell & pc/tcp problems
Nntp-Software: PC/TCP NNTP
Organization: FTP Software, Inc., Wakefield, MA
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 13:33:21

In article <cdoucet.718078480@tdsb-s> cdoucet@mais.hydro.qc.ca (cdoucet) writes:

 >> I Everybody i just recently purchased novell NFS and pc/tcp
 >> 
 >> I want the user on the pc to be able to mount a novell drive using pc/tcp NFS
 >> the error i am getting after i did an idmnt is
 >> 
 >> Autentification server failed to respond
 >> 
 >> It looks like the Novell version of NFS lacks an autentification server???
 >> 
The Netware NFS NLM certainly does lack a PCNFSD NLM!.  Vendors of PC based
NFS like FTP, Beame & Whiteside, & Sun have various workarounds.

In the case of PCTCP there are 2:
	* if you are using PCTCP 2.1 set your <nis-server> entry to point
	  to a PCNFSD somewhere else on the net.  If this PCNFSD & your 
	  Netware NFS are configured such that they have the same UID/GID
	  pairs you win; otherwise...
	* contact support@ftp.com for a copy of <mnt.exe> our version of
	  idmnt that totally dispenses with any pretensions of security
	  and allows you to send the UID/GID of your choice right on the
	  command line.

So Keith & friends:
	When is Novell going to release that PCNFSD NLM?  Can't be that hard
	to do, eh?

Larry Backman
FTP Software
From: chadb@NeoSoft.com (Chad A Brockman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Need help w/ SCSI-2 controller or disk sub-system
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:23:37 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.novell
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900

Hi,
  I could really use some help. I just found out that Storage Dimension
subsystems use some sort of proprietary tag so you can't use a drive in
their subsystem unless you buy it from them. So now, I just bought a 
Seagate ST-41600n SCSI-2 (1.3 gig) drive and have nothing to hook it up to.
  I have 2 ISA file servers, both run Netware 2.15c, 1 has the subsystem,
the other has 2 ESDI drives.
  So here are my question(s) (after wasting thousands of dollars on a 
proprietary system).
  1. Is there any way to hook up a SCSI-2 controller in the same machine
with the ESDI drives??, in the same machine with the subsystem??
  2. Does anyone know how Storage Dimension tags their drives??
  3. If I have to get another server to use the drive, can anyone recommend
a good controller -or- *non* proprietary subsystem for this drive??

            Any help greatly appreciated,

                    Chad Brockman
                    chadb@sugar.NeoSoft.com
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From: pyrros@braindamaged.cis.udel.edu (Christos T. Pyrros)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
Subject: The new SECUREFX.NLM doesn't run on Runtime 3.11 Servers!
Date: 28 Sep 92 02:17:36 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark

Well, I d/led the secure.zip file from ftp.novell.com and tryed installing it
today.

It installed on our main 3.11 server without a hitch.  On our runtime
server running NACS 3.0, however, it was another story.

The orignal PATCHMAN.NLM included with our NACS is version 920312.  NACS 3.0
requires the SPXFIX1.NLM (we have version 920313).

Trying to load SECUREFX.NLM over the old PATCHMAN.NLM results in the
error message:

ERROR:  Incompatible PatchMan Minor Version

So I say "Aha!" and I immediately upgrade the PATCHMAN to the version
included in SECURE.ZIP, that is PATCHMAN.NLM version 920416.  Now
SECUREFX.NLM loads fine!

But wait!  What about the SPXFIX1.NLM requried for NACS operation?  It
won't run over the new PATCHMAN!  It gives the error message:

ERROR:  This Patch does not support the 1 user version of NetWare 386.

Now what, Novell??

I know this was released in a hurry, so I'm not complaining, but please
*do* provide a fix, or let us know if there's another version of SPXFIX1.NLM
that works with the new PATCHMAN.


Thanks,

Chris
From: donp@novell.com (don provan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: IP <-> IPX Addressing & Naming Schemes
Date: 28 Sep 92 06:57:46 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, California

In article <1992Sep27.070941.9317@udel.edu> pyrros@braindamaged.cis.udel.edu (Christos T. Pyrros) writes:
>Is the "Utah State University Novell Addressing Scheme" the preferred naming
>and numbering scheme for a mixed IP/IPX network?  What scheme does Novell
>use on their own machines (Don?)  What scheme does Novell recommend? :-)

I hate it when y'all pick on me.  One of these days they're going to
find out i'm telling you all this and come after me...

1. To me personally, the Utah scheme makes a lot of sense.  I can't
think of a single reason not to use it if all your networks already
have IP addresses and all your servers already have domain names
assigned to them.

2. You don't want to know how Novell allocates names and addresses
(which is fortunate, 'cuz i don't think Novell wants you to know,
either).  Suffice to say that it's not entirely orderly.

3. If Novell recommends any scheme for IPX address or NetWare server
name allocation, i've never heard of it.
						don provan
						donp@novell.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell