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From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki)
Subject: Re: SIG-alert question.
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 06:13:43 PST

Its the later. There was an L.A. DJ that did the "Sig" alerts. One of the
local, San Diego, Ca, radio stations just did a feature on this very thing.

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Newsgroups: alt.california
From: CSMSETS@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: Emigration to US/CA
Date: 22 Dec 92 13:33:11 PST

In article <d9kT02Wy2fdu01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>,
tza00@ccc.amdahl.com (Theo Albers) writes:

>In article <1992Dec22.150545.24919@gserv1.dl.ac.uk> G.Coulter@Daresbury.AC.UK writes:
>>
>>(1) ... Will I struggle getting work after graduating over here with a
>>        good degree in computer science. I would like to work in animation
>>        & graphics although I am flexible I am also interested in movie
>>        special effects.
>
>California has one of the highest number of people unemployed and especially
>in your area of computer science a job is not always easy to get. I get an
>increasing number of calls from employment agencies offering contracting help
>which means there are a lot of people out there who are in need of a job.
>Experience is one of the things they are after these days. Just finishing
>a study may make it a lot harder.

The above is true in So. Cal. also (and this does include Hollywood and
Burbank where most of this type of stuff goes on..). The problem with
graphics/animation and F/X people is that it is a VERY tight group that
is hard to break into. Your best bet (being from the U.K.) would be
to try and get in with the Lucas Film people at (is it) Woodridge
Movie studios (where ILM did the first Star Wars), make a name and then
try and move over here. Without any experience you'll be spending all
your time doing backround display work (and even most of this goes to
people with experience...).

>
>>(2) ... Is it easy to come over to CA. from the UK visa/imigration wise
>>        and is it relatively easy to get a work permit.
>

Have no idea about this. I just know that most people I know are here
on 'vacation' and all work is under the table (pronounced they are
getting ripped off for the amount of work they are putting in).

>>
>>(3) ... Cost of living? Cost of houses/flats/appartments to buy & Rent?
>>        just on average.
>
>Here in Silicon Valley, San Francisco Bay Area, rent for appartment is approx
>$ 700 and up (unless you want to share) and buying apartment is $ 85K and up
>to lots and lots for houses.

Here in West L.A. (Santa Monica, Hollywood) you can pay from $800 -
$1200 for a one bedroom. In Burbank you'll pay from $600 - $900 all
depending on where you're willing to live (true you can find the
place in Venice or Santa Monica which has rent control for $400-$500
a month but your car might be gone when you wake up in the morning).

Houses or Condos start around $125k, If you move out to the sticks
you'll start at around $90k.
From: fencil@bengals.msu.edu (Kollin S. Fencil)
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Chicken Boy Los Angles
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:36:58 GMT
Reply-To: fencil@bengals.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University
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Keywords:
 Is there anybody out there who knows who Chicken Boy is???  If so get in touch with me, he is starting to catch on here in Michigan, is there some following out there on the coast or am I just a freak?
From: Rick.Ellis@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.california
Subject: Congratulations Anaheim
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 03 Jan 93  19:30:47

On <Dec 10 19:30> NAVA ALEXANDER writes:

 NA> Congratulations to the NHL Anaheim...try not to peek at the Ottawa 
 NA> Senators, your expansion big brothers-many lean years ahead of 
 NA> you...Oh yeah! Just wanted to let you know that up here in the Great 
 NA> White North just outside Toronto we had our first big snow storm!  8" 
 NA> on the ground...hurry up Spring!

I just wish they had never got a team at all.  The new arena is about 300
meters from here and I suspect it's going to cause me problems with traffic at 
times.
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From: rone@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Ronald Elshaug)
Subject: Schell's Doppel Alt Bier
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 13:52:02 GMT
Reply-To: rone@vnet.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: Minnesota Office of Beer Investigation

Was at my favorite Bar and Grill (Brothers) yesterday and low and behold
they had Schell's new Doppel Alt Bier.  Its a customer appreciation, limited
edition beer they just came out with.  My how this customer appreciated it!
It has a smooth, rich malt flavor and has a taste close to a Bock or Doppel
Bock.  I can taste chocolate barley malt or maybe a little roasted barley
malt in it.  Not much hop flavor for you hop heads, but right for me and 
fairly strong.  A truly excellent beer and not to be missed!

The only drawbacks are that it is a limited edition and only sold in kegs.
T'was a great surprise to see Brothers carrying it, but they needed a new
dark beer to serve and the Doppel Alt was readily available.  Finally, a 
good reason to live in Minnesota in the winter.  So, call up your local 
drinking establishment now and have them order you a keg.  Hey, if they
can't get you one, maybe you can start planning that early '93 Schell's 
Brewery tour.  ;-)

I drink to your health in the coming new year, that is with a Schell's 
Doppel Alt in my hand.

Merry Football Season and a Happy New Year!

RonE
From: dhembrow@eoe.co.uk (David Hembrow)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Double Diamond Ale
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:04:13 GMT
Organization: EO Europe Limited, Cambridge, UK
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James M Hoskins (jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: 
: I had an English Ale over the weekend, Double Diamond,
: from Trent, England.
: 
: It was, well, excellent.  Balanced, good foamy head,
: interesting flavour.
: 
: It even came in green bottles and was not skunked.
: 
: I am always interested to hear reactions others have
: to beers I've tried.  In particular diverse reactions
: like "Over here in England we wouldn't let out dogs drink
: that bilge water" or "The Queen drinks it" are
: illuminating.
: 
: Jim

Dear Jim,

I found your posting most illuminating. It is in fact true that we
here in Britain would not let our dogs touch the stuff !

There are some truly excellent beers available in the UK and I'm
afraid that DD is not one of them. Oh well.

To the best of my knowledge, the Queen does not in fact drink DD.

Smileys all round ( though it's a pretty dire beer )

David.-- 
David Hembrow                   EO Europe Ltd.,
email:  dhembrow@eoe.co.uk      Abberley House, Granhams Road,
                                Great Shelford, Cambridge CB2 5LQ, England
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: j1moody@darwin.cc.nd.edu (Joe Moody)
Subject: Identify a brew, please
Followup-To: alt.beer
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 23:52:15 GMT

There's a beer out, it's an ale I believe, that comes in a clear 40 ounce
bottle. It has an indian name and is supposed to be quite high in alcohol
content. Maybe 'Crazy Horse'? Anyway, somebody told me they're taking it
off the market.
Does anyone know the real name and whether they are going to continue
selling it?

Joe
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From: sg@monsoon.com (Sunil Gupta)
Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: Black and Tan
Keywords: This article printed on 100% recycled electrons
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 13:17:19 EST
Organization: Monsoon Software, Inc. +1 (410) 235-2365

kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut) writes:

> perfect one.  You too can do this in the privacy of your own home if
> you use a just-opened can of 'Pub Draught Guinness,' which has no
> nitrogen in it BTW.  In fact, don't even buy Guinness in bottles

I believe the Pub Draught Guinness DOES have nitrogen in it. It's
stored in a small capsule at the bottom of the can. The gas is
released when the membrane over the pinhole at the top of the
capsule ruptures when pressure is released by opening the can.
That's why the directions state that the can should be allowed
to rest a minute or two after opening.

Sunil Gupta
Monsoon Software, Inc.
sg@monsoon.com
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: srussell@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Stephen Russell,147 Bard,54648,)
Subject: Re: Penn Pilsner
Originator: srussell@snoopy.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 06:04:41 GMT

From article <1224@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, by rrkst1+@pitt.edu (Ross R Klein):
> Penn Pilsner...
> I've finally started moving away from drinking only Iron City and
> Rollong Rock (gimme a break, I'm a native Pittsburgher), and I've
> stumbled onto Penn Pilsner.  I've never seen it mentioned here and
> was wondering if I can stir up any net-opinion/wisdom.  Is this stuff
> considered 'good', and how does it compare to the micro-brewery beers?
> I'm trying to learn what to look for...so sick of the comercial beers.

I've been to the brewpub in the Northside twice; they had two pilsners,
an alt and a helles last time I was there (the day after thanksgiving this
year); a munich dark the last time I was there (summer 1991).  All in all,
pretty decent beers.  The alt and the munich dark were memorable, even.
The pilsners were both good; one was the Penn and other a 'higher class'
one, as they seemed to bill it.  It was maybe slightly stronger but nearly
the same, as I recall.

So as a native Pittsburgher, I think you've got something to be proud
of (other than those 'Guins, of course :-)

Cheers,

STEVE
From: "kevin mandoske" <kevin.mandoske@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: sweet-malty brew
Date: 29 Dec 92 00:07:17 EST
Reply-To: "kevin mandoske" <kevin.mandoske@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

Can anyone suggest some other sweet/malty brews.  I have tried and enjoyed 
Grants Weiss and Grants Scotsh Ale.

Thanks for any help.

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From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: Out of State ID's
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:14:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.172516.8368@ultb.isc.rit.edu> sce4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>Around here, alot of places have a book that has photographs of all current
>driver's licenses from each state.
>
>I'm not sure, but I think it may also describe common fakes, what
>is acceptable and what isn't, and whatever else.  I think if law
>enforcement agencies support this book and give it accrediation,
>then using it to prove ID genuine should eradicate problems drinking
>establishments have accepting out-of-state ID.
>
>Anybody else hear of such a thing ??

I've got a copy of a paperback book put out by the Washington State Patrol
called something like "Identifying Counterfiet ID".  It also has a big
warning on the back along the lines of "Unlawful for private citizens
to posess this publication."  OK, Copper, Come and Get Me!  I can't find
where I've put it so I doubt they could. :-)

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From: scott.powell@amail.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: <none>
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:23:37 GMT
Return-Path: <amail.amdahl.com!scott.powell@juts.ccc.amdahl.com>

>Does anyone know how to remove labels from beer bottles?
>
>I have a collection of beer bottles sitting around in bags and boxes.
>Since I don't have room to display them on shelves I thought I would
>remove the labels and make posters of them.
>
>My problem is that soaking the bottles in water damages the labels and
>doesn't really work too well.  Any suggestions?

I remember some friends of mine, who collected Wine Bottle Labels, spreading
some stuff over the labels.  The stuff was designed to either dissolve the
glue and leave the label intact or to soak into the paper and reinforce it so
it wouldn't tear when being removed (maybe it was both).  They've gone their
separate ways and I've lost touch with them, but I have seen the stuff they
used advertised in some of the wine journals.  You might try looking in some
of them. If I get a chance I'll rummage around in some of the boxes from my
bachelor days and see if I can find some more info.

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From: cblanc@pomona.claremont.edu (Muffavore)
Subject: this message is my daily waste of the world's resources
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 27 Dec 92 02:15:04 PST

In article <1992Dec23.094621.1@vax1.tcd.ie>, blucey@vax1.tcd.ie writes:
> 
> Dont Drink Beer - Drink Guinness, the Nectar of the Gods
> 
> Guinness - No Beer Comes Near

Don't drink beer, eat Guinness...bring a fork...
From: sce4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Ernst_Guy)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Happy Holidays
Date: 23 Dec 92 22:51:47 GMT
Reply-To: sce4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

I want to wish everyone Happy Holidays !!

See ya in '93 !!!!!!


Scott

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From: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins)
Subject: Re: SA's Cranberry
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:52:17 GMT

In article <brewer.056l@meltdown.chi.il.us> brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us (Mike Wil
son) writes:
>Well, I tried the cranberry lambic from Sam Adams last night.  First, I must
>make this disclaimer.  The first lambic I ever tasted was Lindemann's kriek.
I
>don't know if this is a standard type lambic as Timmermann's wasn't as good as
>I thought Lindemann's was.  In so say, the Sam Adams version was terrible.
>Okay, perhaps not terrible, but it did not strike me as lambic at all.  It
>struck me as a cranberry wheat beer.  As such, it's not bad, but it could be
>tarter.  On the bottle, the brewery even says that it's made like a wheat beer
>with "top fermenting yeast."  That narrows it, doesn't it?  So, in sum, if you
>want a lambic, by Lindemann's.  If you want a fruited wheat beer, Sam Adams is
>just fine.
>
>brewer@meltdown.chi.il.us
>Mike Wilson

Let me offer confirmation of the sagacity of your tastebuds.
Somewhere in Ohio, USA I was sampling a SA Cranberry Lambic yesterday
evening too.  Similar to your impression, I was not at all impressed.
Just "fruited wheat beer" and as you say not tart enough.
Good looking label though.

JH
From: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: CAMRA
Date: 24 Dec 1992 09:07:03 GMT
Organization: SERC Daresbury Lab, Warrington, U.K.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
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Time for a FAQ ???
CAMRA - the Campaign for Real Ale was formed 21 years ago in the UK to
protect the rapidly disappearing cask ales from a tide of bland keg
beers which were being foisted on the public by the large breweries.
It was fantastically successful (the most successful consumer movement
in Europe) and now addresses other issues such as licensing law and
protecting the British pub. It has now formed alliances with similar
organisations througout Europe to deal with impending Europe issues.
There are branches of CAMRA in several countries (eg Canada).
As to Australia, I think there is a local organisation - will check it
out during the break. However, you can get further details from the
UK HQ at 34 Alma Road, St Albans, Herts AL1 3BW, UK.
Cheers,
	Mark (CAMRA Regional Director)
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From: ufe@dlva.dl.ac.uk ()
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Double Diamond Ale
Date: 23 Dec 1992 09:29:29 GMT
Organization: SERC Daresbury Lab, Warrington, U.K.
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Double Diamond (along with Red Barrel amongst others) were the great
inventions of 60's brewing in Britain. Mass marketed, bland keg beers
that would appeal to the masses. The idea was that the punters would
go for the consistency and blandness, and the brewers could just brew
the one beer in large "megakeggaries". They would then just slug it
out between each other by advertising (somewhat along the lines, the
cigarette companies do now).
It didn't work ... the drinkers revolted and CAMRA was born. The brands
became synonymous with awfulness and died (in Britain). However, it
appears that they then found a ready market in the US :-)
Red Barrel (and many of the others) are certainly not with us anymore
here, but I believe Double Diamond was revamped and is available in
bottles in the UK. It is now believed to be a pasteurised and filtered
version of Allied's Ind Coope Burton Ale which is an excellent cask
beer. Though this is confused as the latter is available, under it's
own name, in cans.
Cheers,
	Mark
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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: Out of State ID's
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 22:17:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec8.222417.23544@news.nd.edu> ulick@bernini.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford) writes:
Deletions...

>                                      But perhaps now that the President
>is no longer Republican, states will be able to drop their drinking ages back
>to something civilized.
>

Yeah, right.  Don't hold your breath.

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From: DJWalker@cup.portal.com (Doug Jay Walker)
Newsgroups: alt.beer,rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: Black and Tan
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 08:06:19 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec28.125953.307@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>

>  Use a spoon. Place it on the top of the ale (I personally prefer
>harp), and pour the guiness on top of the spoon. There will be some
>mixing but you will get a two level effect.
>
>**********************************************************************
>* Arthur, king of the Britons    * King of the who?                  *
>* King of the Brittons!          * Who are the Brittons anyway?      *
>* I am, you are, we all are the  *                                   *
>* Brittons and I am your king!   * Well, I didn't vote for you.      *
>**********************************************************************
>Robert T. Warfield@dartmouth.edu
>

From the looks of this .signature, I'd guess that you would get
a two level effect with a little path running through the middle,
right?  Nee!  Nee!

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From: DJWalker@cup.portal.com (Doug Jay Walker)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Looking for Schneider Weiss
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 20:00:46 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>When I lived in Munchen, the Weiss bier of choice among my peers and my
>father's Bavarian collegues was Schneider Weiss, brewed by, natch, Schneider.
>Any chance that it is available in the states?  I have been lucky in
>finding the Munich biggies (Paulaner, Hacker-Pschorr, Franziskaner) and even
>Ayinger (brewed in the little town of Aying not far from where we called

>William Claspy                  Case Western Reserve University

We've been unable to find Paulaner in North Carolina for a couple of
years now, which is too bad because it's a pretty good Weissbier.
As far as I know, we've never had Hacker-Pschorr here.  We get
Franziskaner (and Kapuziner Schwarz), Maisel's, Erdinger, Ayinger,
and Dinkel Acker.  SOMETIMES you can find Schneider here, I don't
know why it's spotty.

If anybody knows a distributor that carries any other brands,
or Schneider, I'd appreciate an address.  We have a Weiss-Blau
club, and we're always looking for new brands to try.

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From: plutchak@pilsner.geo.brown.edu (Joel Plutchak)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Ponies and Quarter Barrels
Date: 30 Dec 1992 17:12:16 GMT
Organization: Brown University Planetary Geology
NNTP-Posting-Host: pilsner.geo.brown.edu

In article <1992Dec27.010516.2839@rosedale.uucp> dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.130317.1870@msus1.msus.edu> mdempsey@msus1.msus.edu writes:
>>Whoops, I screwed up. As has been noted, a full barrel is 31 not 33 gallons
>>(just wishing for a few extra glasses I guess) as I stated earlier. However
>>everything else ads up a 'sixteen' is a half-barrel, an 'eight' is a quarter
>>barrel. Some people seem to think a quarter-barrel and a pony are the same
>         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>thing. A pony is traditionally 1/8 of a barrel or 3.875 gallons.
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Sorry to tell you, your East Coast Provincialism is showing.  :-)
>In this part of the country (the Northwest), a pony keg is and always
>has been 1/4 barrel.  I've never even heard of this 1/8-barrel keg you
>mention before.

   Or maybe it's the left-coasters who are provincial. :-)  In the
Midwest (Wisconsin, specifically), a pony is indeed 1/8 of a barrel,
and a quarter-barrel is, strangely enough, one quarter of a barrel.
Haven't seen a pony lately, but my keg days are long gone.
  Then again, I just visited the Celis brewery in Austin, and the
young lad who gave the tour said a keg was half a barrel, so I suspect
there *are* regional differences in terminology.
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