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From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: what kind of oil needed for winter storage??
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:43:29 GMT

In <1992Aug19.125557.18172@linus.mitre.org> cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes:

>Bzzzt!  But thank you for playing anyway. :-)

	I hate it when I screw up. ;-)

>Old oil is full of all kinds of wonderful combustion by-products.  Several
>of which are nice and acidic.  Acid+metal == bad. :-)
>Changing the oil before you put it away (and then turning the engine
>over BY HAND) let's you be sure that you've gotten most of the nasties
>out of the engine.  

	If you turn it over by hand, will you get enough oil pressure to
ensure proper oiling of the top end?  I run mine for this reason, and also
so I can warm up the oil enough to ensure the viscosity isn't the equivalent
of sludge.  On the subject of acids, I had not thought about it, but I
do wonder if there is any sort of wiantitative evidence on this.  I'm
just wondering if changing every 2500 miles is any worse or better when
riding then letting 500 mile old oil sit for three months?

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"There'll be angels on Ariels in leather>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | and chrome, Ridin' down from heaven    >
<viking@iastate.edu      | just to carry me home." -- R. Thompson >
< ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee. >
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude)
Subject: Re: Hard-soled shoes/boots
Organization: Office of 'Tude Licensing
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:24:34 GMT

In article <4760@balrog.ctron.com>, tavares@danville (Jack Tavares) writes:
> Surely, you weren't actually riding in the rain?
> Must have been the jeep, huh?

That day I was in the Jeep (the bike was clean and the rain suit was neatly
folded).

I hope you're not implying that this biker is afraid of the rain.  I've 
ridden more miles in the rain this season than many folks have done in 
fair weather.

- Roid
From: TKPOWELL@bluemoon.profs.tek.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: AMA Progressive Insurance Rip Off
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:12:34 GMT


Bike  CBR900RR
Age   44
No tickets last 3 years
AO  Portland, Oregon
Coverage  Full/$500 ded for coll/comp
Company  Nationwide
Also insure cage
Cost $337/yr

This company goes by cc.  I emphasized the bike was only 893cc.
Its cheaper than previous scoot (90 FZR1000).

--Terry
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Liberals maligned (was: Goof2 Stolen at Gunpoint)
Date: 19 Aug 1992 15:33:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 19399@drutx.ATT.COM, kpm@druhi.ATT.COM (Kevin Malloy (DoD #106)) writes:
>In article <16oavcINN4ck@cs.utexas.edu> osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
>
>>I'm a liberal, I believe in personal freedom.  I support free speech,
>>free association, and private ownership of weapons.  I hate helmet
>>laws, seat belt laws and most government intrusion into my life.
>
>I'm a liberal, and proud of it.  I believe that personal freedoms are _MORE
>IMPORTANT_ than legislated, mandated safety, who believes that personal
>freedoms are _MORE IMPORTANT_ than someone's right to be protected from that
>which they find offensive, who believes that government has _NO BUSINESS_ 
>telling me what to do with my personal life, 

There's an awful lot of libertarians out there calling themselves
liberals!

Folks, liberal is not the only thing to be, if you don't want to be
conservative.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: R.Collins@newcastle.ac.uk (R. Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Personal Freedoms?
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:59:30 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <1992Aug18.201542.8126@rtsg.mot.com>, svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:

>A helmet can be intrusive, uncomfortable, and subtract from the total motorcycle
>experience. 
>
>In all but very rare cases (idling at MSF ERC), a headlight is no detraction to
>anything but image. 
>

I read somewhere that the charging circuit on Laverda triples wasn't man
enough to cope with riding with lights on for very long.  Or does this
make it as a very rare case?

---
Raybo 	DoD# 1058		XBR500

"You can get your load, on the old Coast Road"
From: pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: European Yamahas in Colorado
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:19:06 GMT

My family and I just got back from a few days in the Durango, CO
area.  The last evening we were there, as we were walking back
from the restaurant to our hotel, I noticed a bunch of bikes parked
in the adjacent hotel's parking lot.  I could see the tail-end of
a couple of the bikes, and they looked like dual-purpose bikes, which
got my interest, so we detoured through the parking lot.  As we got
closer, I could tell that all of the bikes were DP bikes, and in fact
they were all alike, except for color.  I counted 16 Super Teneres,
all with European-type plates, all with ~5300 km on the odometer, all
with matching sponsorship decals (Mobil 1, etc.), and all with license
plate frames that said "Sonauto Yamaha".  There was also a Yamaha
support van in the lot.  It looked like fun to me.  And the Super
Tenere sure looks like one neat DP bike.  Too bad we don't get them here.
--

P.M. Smith
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm)
Subject: Cager loses to biker story:
Organization: Ocean Sciences Centre
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:18:05 GMT


	I'm enjoying the replies to my tailgater experience, and here's a
	case in which the cager lost:

	My MSF (CSC in Canada,actually) told us of the time when some
	bitch(tm) cut him off in a rotary (roundabouts in the UK). Now this
	is somewhat to be expected in a rotary, but the general rule is to
	alternate the yield.  Anyway, it was his turn, she challenged
	it and practically ran him off the road.  This guy is big/strong
	and wears nice protective (read indestructable) boots.  He catches
	up to her, and kicks the living shit out of her tail light!!!  
	Needless to say, she will always 'Watchout for motorcycles, they're
	everywhere' from here on in.  

	Craig
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From: bostrov@jasper.CS.ORST.EDU (Vareck Bostrom)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: no respect for u-locks (was: Re:  Just back from my vacation ...)
Date: 12 Aug 92 22:10:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis Oregon

Interesting about the freon and "super steel" u-locks and other locks.
I have my doubts, though. A friend of mine and I tried that trick out
- with liquid nitrogen (available at your friendly welding supply store)
and it didn't work. Lock held firm, steel held firm, no matter how much
liquid nitrogen we used (we even dunked the whole thing in the canister
for a few minutes and it STILL didn't shatter). 

- Vareck
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Speaking of Fiamms...
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:17:21 GMT

jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:

> Well in an effort to locate the DoD horn of choice I've called
>8 different auto part stores the first question is always "carry what?".
 
> Can anybody around chicago(Naperville) enlighten me?
> Damn backwoods.

I don't know Chicago, but just hit a few of the big auto parts chain
stores. Even though they don't know "Fiamm", they probably have them
sitting on the shelf. If you can't find Fiamms, Stebels (often packaged
under the name Anes) are just as loud. Several of the shops around here
even have the various horns wired up so you can test drive them before
you buy. I don't recommend testing the horns if you're shy though, it
tends to make you the center of attention. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Helmet forehead welts & itching
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:35:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.230018.20609@eos.arc.nasa.gov> phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone) writes:

>"The answer is simple."   Grrrrr.  Oh ye of little head...

it's not the size of the head, it's what you do with it.

(shouldn't one of the female dod'ers have said that?)

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|       Cliff Weston                     '92 Seca II (Tem)                 |
|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
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|       "I love your post.  Please don't stop."   -- Lissa Shoun           |
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|               "the swelling was real"  -- Paul S. Sears                  |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: brianm@sco.com (Brian Moffet)
Subject: Re: DoD Security Breach ?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:05:36 GMT

laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
>i'd rate it slightly below negative infinity.
> 
>-- laurie

Let's see, if the real axis travels from left to right, negative to positive,
so -infinity is to the left, and positive to the right.

Hmm, you're right, not too far into the imaginary for that flame...

brian moffet
--
"Face it, Chuck.  Taken as an aggregate, the human race is a stupid, sorry lot."
                           -- Jonathan Quist

brianm@sco.com  or uunet!sco!brianm                    Speaking for Myself
From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:04:14 GMT
Subject: Re: Harleys are OUT, Porches are IN!
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

/ hpcc01:rec.motorcycles / jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) / 12:59 pm  Aug 19, 1992 /
> Forgery deleted

	Seen in the last Independent Biker (Bike Rag from SF, distributed around CA),
in the small ads section: For Trade
For Trade a fully loaded Porsche (I don't remember, think it was a 911) for a
Harley.

	If you don't believe me, check it out.

	JNM
----------
Jean-Noel is correct! 

TRADE FOR LATE HARLEY: 1985 1/2
Porsche 944, orig. owner, 47K mi., ac, cc,
leather, sunroof, pull-out am/fam cass.,
Michelins, full-power, 5 spd., looks & runs
like new, $8900/OBO. Low Blue $8600.
(818) 887-3409

Graeme Harrison
DoD#0649
"My SO can remove my helmet on the fly and give me a soothing forehead
massage every 30 minutes." 
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Why is a Harley so easy to push?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:35:13 GMT

Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:

>Q: Why is a Harley so easy to push?

Wrong question. Harley=Aermacchi, not Puch.

Yea, I probably spelled Aermacchi wrong, just like you misspelled Puch.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:22:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.220924.2802530@locus.com> dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers) writes:
>Who else has discovered that countersteering does not appear to work
>correctly on shaft-drive motorcycles?

	[techno-drivel deleted]

	Not me. I have a shaft drive bike, and it counter-steers just fine.
	Maybe you haven't been pulling on the bars in a manly fashion...
	how did you score on the donut testing??? (for impaired :-))


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From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Tenere and Africa-Twin in the U.S.?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:15:53 GMT

In article <16110199@hpsad.sad.hp.com> frankb@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Frank Ball) writes:
|*In rec.motorcycles, hofmann@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Jenns Hofmann) writes:
|*
|*    Here in Germany Yamaha sells the 'Super-Tenere 750' ( or 'XTZ 750').
|*    Has it also been sold in the U.S. (maybe with another Name) ?
|*    I have the same question about the Honda 'Africa-Twin' '650' or '750'!
|*    Thanks, Jenns
|
|Honda sold the Transalp, a 750cc twin, that had off road looks.  It was
|sold for a year or two.  Didn't do very well, I've never seen one.

I looked at the Transalp a while back.  That is, until I met a guy who's
"stuck" with one.  He want's an R100GS, but can't sell the Transalp. :-)

|Yamaha just this year brought out the TDM850, which I believe was evolved
|from the Super Tenere.  

Sorta kinda.  Kind of like the R100R is evolved from the R100GS.

|It looks more like a conventional street bike.

A rather weird looking conventional street bike.  (BEM)

|I don't think the local dealer has sold any.  I think it is overweight
|and overpriced.

Well, it didn't seem heavy.  That engine is *wonderful*.  I wrote a review
on r.m about riding one.  I was pretty impressed.

And it's not really overpriced, for an 850.

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmmmm)             |  this weird shit
No ratbike at the moment.  Suggestions?     |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Drunk Cagers (Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters)
From: Robert Chambers <RMCCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Wednesday, 19 Aug 1992 20:47:58 EDT
Organization: CUNY/UCC VM Systems

Talking to a drunk driver in an attempt to get him/her to stop driving
is about as useful as pissing up a rope.

I have lost (well not lost, had taken) two friends to drunk drivers.

They should be locked up, simple.

Robert
DoD 191
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:54:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug19.195445.27368
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Aug17.203416.9407@tcsi.com> skao@booboo.tcs.com (Simon Kao) writes:
>Dana writes:
>
>... [David said] you simply need to push on the gas tank with your knee
>to make the bike steer. This doesn't sound like counter-steering at all.
>
>To which I say: Yes, it is, but it's hidden from the user. That is to
>say, if you use your left knee to push against the tank, in order to
>balance yourself, you will unconciously lessen your push on the left
>handlebar, which is equivalent to pushing the right handlebar, which 
>results in countersteering to instigate a turn to the right.

To which I say: Bunk.  You can lean by shifting your weight, and
a lean will instigate a turn.  Countersteering is simply a means
of making the bike lean.  I can make my bike lean with my hands
off the bars, so I suspect I wasn't unconciously pushing on the bars.

>It's a useful technique to use if you're already leaned over and need
>to make minor corrections to increase the lean angle; it's much more 
>subtle than conciously countersteering.

Countersteering is a useful technique to use if you're already leaned
into a turn and would rather make slight hand/arm movements than
gross body movements.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
	So just where did George Bush get the idea that he gets to
			decide policy for the U.N.?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Price Gouging? Really?
Organization: Government Technology Services, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:56:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.161605.26473@isc-br.isc-br.com> steveh@thor.isc-br.com (Steve Hendricks) writes:
>In article <16b57kINNn8@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>>
>>I suspect exposed fork tubes are more a matter
>>of styling, ie, the customer *wants* them that way.
>>
>Have to agree on this one.  Having recently returned to biking after a 
>ten year hiatus, I was struck by the near universal styling commitment to 
>appeal to 18 year old males from SoCal. Happy to see some variation in 
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ = most $$$, good business, what 
did you expect?

>the form of the "retro" trend, but I'm afraid that any hope of
>manufacturers (esp the Big Four Japanese) making a serious effort to 
>style their bikes in a more utilitarian direction ignores the fact that
>they still see their primary market as viewers of Beverly Hills 90210.

VM12 V-Max. ST1100 ABS. GSX1100G. VS800GLP. Virago. Vulcan 88. Nighthawk.
GS500E.

You haven't been looking around enough. NONE of these bikes are the 90210
types (although personally I believe you'd see a Harley on that show before
you saw any crotch rocket, because they're so cooooel).

The V-Max is a muscle car masquerading as a bike. The ST1100 is the picture
of "utilitarian" in that it has incredible ergonomics and design focus. The
GSX1100G is arguably one of those most unique in the line up: a sports bike
with a standard configuration (ie, you don't lay down on it to ride) and a 
standard look. The Intruder may be a Harley wanna be, but it certainly breaks
your mold. Ditto the Vulcan, and Virago. The Nighthawk is a sporty standard
that doesn't look like a cruiser but rides like one. The GS500E is as 
utilitarian as it gets - nothing is wasted on that bike - but is still fun
and handles great. My own Seca II looks sporty but seats standard, and has 
a dependable and simple in design engine.

Just because you see lots of CBR's out there doesn't mean that the only type
of bike Japanese manufacturers make. It just happens that you notice them
more, because they were designed to be noticed.
>--
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-- 
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                      "I'm fine" - Data, in DataLore
From: dnd@ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: M/C Wanted (UK Only)
Date: 12 Aug 92 15:09:40 GMT
Reply-To: dnd@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK


			WANTED
			-----

	Hi,
	I am after some form of Motor cycle. 
	I was thinking in terms of a cheapo hack - eg Suzuki SP400
		ie 4 stroke single(twin), 350-500cc,
	Mechanically reliable - must,
		ratty or not - i dont care.
	#800 tops
	Has anyone got one to sell???

The Return Of The Social Reneagde
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: FIAMM buying and Installing ( was Fiamms,Re: cage kill,was: Re: Deer) Kill)))
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 18:10:33 GMT

In article <WARKENTI.92Aug18155505@syscad8.CAE.Mitel.Com> warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com (BJ Warkentin) writes:
>The only problem with this is that you will only discover any problem
>you have at a point in time when you most need the horns. It kinda
>like the kill switch...
>
>   I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
>	got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
>			    ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada

Hey, I know you guys in Ottawa suffer from a lack of creativity caused by
too much political hot, deoxygenated air, but get your own .sig, BJ! :-)

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ahle@anke.abo.fi (Peter Ahlskog DC)
Subject: Re: Euro DoD meet
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
	<99Xg02FY1dOh01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:09:53 GMT

#  In article <99Xg02FY1dOh01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> czw70@ccc.amdahl.com (CA Whitfield) writes:
#    In article <AHLE.92Aug11152117@anke.abo.fi> ahle@anke.abo.fi (Peter Ahlskog DC) writes:
#    >In article <713383219snx@stets.novalis.public.sub.org> stets@stets.novalis.public.sub.org (Thomas Stets) writes:
#    >Another possibility would be to choose one main "normal get-together-rally"
#    >somewhere in europe and have DoD-rally at the same time.
#    >
#    Reason, at last.
# 
#    >Aren't we interested in racing?!?! Yeah, sure we are!
#    >
# 
#    You bet.  How about one of the big Euro Race meets like Assen (good
#    for Northern Europeans and Scandinavians).  At least we'll have some
#    racing to watch while reaching (retching?) the DoD minumim daily beer
#    intake.
#
#    Mind you, it usually rains and the roads are boring.  Bol d'Or anybody?
#    CAW

yep! Assen could be fine, except the two mentioned things. It 'always'
rains and roads are really boring. Bol d'Or with 9 killed (?? or am I
confusing this with some other event?) this year could get the adrenaline
going.

How about a small DoD-gettogether this year in Anderstorp 26-27th september
at the World Superbike Series event?!?! The beer costs a fortune in Sweden
and tastes "nothing", so BYOBes of decent beer....I'm in!

--
 Peter "Ale" Ahlskog                            e-mail: ahle@anke.abo.fi
 Computing Centre       Abo Akademi University  Phone:  +358-21-65*4472
     "It's green, it's mean, it's mine and it's eating them alive"
                        DoD: #138, ZXR 750 (Jolly)