From: KAUFMAN@BIOMED.MED.YALE.EDU (Elizabeth Kaufman)
Newsgroups: comp.protocols.appletalk
Subject: SUMMARY: Unix based AppleTalk monitoring
Date: 7 Oct 92 11:41:46 GMT
Organization: The Internet


Hello everyone. This is a summary of the responses I received to my posting
looking for Unix-based Appletalk monitoring software. Thanks to everyone who
replied.

-Elizabeth

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From:	IN%"roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu" 19-SEP-1992 21:19:39.10

	Why don't you check out the CAP package, originally from Columbia?
You can ftp the latest distribution from rutgers.edu, in src/cap, or
something like that.  CAP is mostly used to provide AppleTalk services like
AppleShare and printing for a Unix machine, but also includes some basic
monitoring programs.  I've been doing some basic statistic gathering using
their atlook program and some shell scripts the past couple of weeks.  If
you wanted to start rolling your own network monitoring applications more
sophisticated than what they give you, at least you have a good base to
build on.

/roy

From:	IN%"jeff@digtype.airage.com" 20-SEP-1992 21:18:58.64

IPT has a add-on module for Sun's Sun Net Manager called Apple Agent-Man.
I don't have any other info on it, but it might be worth a look. 

Drop me a line if you want IPT's number. I know they are in San Lois
Obispo, CA. You can try info@iptech.com (i think) or oli@iptech.com
(one of the VPs). 

Jeff


From:	IN%"neeraj@metrix.com" 20-SEP-1992 23:17:08.29

Take a look at our product called NetMetrix. Currently it runs on
SPARCs and includes several tools:

	- Protocol Analyzer (Includes complete Apple Talk decodes)
	- Traffic Generator
	- Load Monitor
	- NFS Monitor

You can do many useful things with it such as daily monitoring with
email reports, trend analysis and the ability to do "what if" analysis
for network configurations.

Free evaluations are available. Send email to info@metrix.com or
call (603) 888-7000.

Neeraj Sangal
Metrix Network Systems, Inc.            1 Tara Blvd, Nashua, NH 03062
neeraj@metrix.com                       (603) 888-7000


From:	IN%"sproule@Princeton.EDU"  "William J. Sproule" 21-SEP-1992 10:40:38.90

We are using the Internet Rover (check favorite archie site) to
monitor 100 Fastpaths, 60+ Unix Hosts, Routers, Bridges, AppleShare
hosts, SMTP, NFS, SNMP, etc..., basically whatever you want to
monitor.

Very powerful.  We use atpinger from CAP to monitor appletalk hosts,
'massping' to quickly run through a the table.  We can check over
400 hosts and ports in 35 seconds.  (Note:  atpinger stuff takes 3 sec
each,and we do not check many.  Most of it are unix hosts.

Here is whatit looks like when it is running:


InetRover Display v2.1P          NOC Display               Mon Sep 21 10:38
Cycle Time: 00:412                                         Mon Sep 21 14:38 GMT
          Filters: bitnet(1)                                15       4]POL   4
#   Elapsed Time            Problem                       Service/StatusLine
    ========= -------------------------------------- ------------------------
01          0 pucc 128.112.129.99                    SMTP
03       8:16 cs001-aisle 128.112.20.10              TELNET
04       8:16 cs001-aisle 128.112.20.10              LPD

-- white space deleted --

Command:
Collector:  Mon Sep 21 14:38  POL - Rover is patrolling the Net


-b

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INTERNET:	sproule@Princeton.EDU	Princeton, NJ   08544
BITNET:		SPROULE@PUCC		VOICE: 609-258-6089  FAX: 609-258-3943

From:	IN%"mmoran@Arco.COM" 21-SEP-1992 12:02:01.66

Hi.  We dont have CAP, etc., so I just use the Unix command 'expect' to telnet
into 1 or more of our cisco routers and issue a 'show apple routes' command.
I have a short shell script that reformats the output of this display, and then
compares it with both what it was the last time, and what it "ought to be".
Since the cisco display includes hop counts and router ports, we are able to 
detect a lot of problems this way with a real simple tool (will be happy to 
share it if you want, but it's not very elegant).  We're still waiting
for a more comprehensive tool for doing it right.  

I'd be very interested in a summary of replies, and any info on what you 
choose to implement.  Thanks.

Mike Moran
AppleTalk Network Manager
ARCO Oil & Gas Co.
Plano TX
(214) 754-6622

From:	IN%"morgan@jessica.stanford.edu"  "RL Bob Morgan" 22-SEP-1992 18:08:13.59

Elizabeth:

> I am looking into developing a UNIX based monitor for our appletalk internet

I have a couple of SNMP-based items that I have written that might be of
interest.  They are:

atg:  extracts data (port status, routing tables, etc) from AppleTalk gateways.
fpboot:  sends reboot signal to a FastPath.

Atg should work on most anything that supports the RFC-1243 AppleTalk MIB, but
it has several functions that are FastPath-specific (eg, memory buiffer usage).
It has been on my list to use it to construct a tool to check whether gateway
ports are configured correctly.  This shouldn't be too hard to do, though you
would need to have some representation of what you think they *should* be (an
atalkatab would do, I think).

Anyway, these are as yet undocumented, unreleased, etc, but they prove useful
here.  Fpboot is pretty much done, but atg has a long way to go yet.  You're
welcome to fetch them from:

 Qajaq.Stanford.EDU, file pub/su-snmp.tar.Z.  

They are based on the CMU SNMP library, v 1.1b.  I'd be interested in any
feedback, especially (of course) if you built something else with them.  If you
do use them, please don't advertise them (I'm hoping for a real freely-available
release in a month or two), but you can refer interested parties to me if you
wish.

 - RL "Bob" Morgan
   Networking Systems
   Stanford