HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bsmg9810@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bhaskar S. Manda)
Subject: Re: : "News Flash"
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 05:06:49 GMT

atulpule@alfred.carleton.ca (Ajit Tulpule) writes:


>##hey kid..
>  ^^^^^^^
>##don't you understand, what does the "NEWS FLASH" mean? 
>##'No news is good news' is age old news. Send some FLASH. Don't use 
>                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>##"NEWS FLASH" (or similar) subject header. They are meant for some real 
>##"NEWS FLASH". Don't confuse us. Okhey...
>##
>##-Bharat

>No, I dont think I would advise "kid" to "Send some FLASH". 

>As it is, we already have enough stuff on the s.c.i.   


>FLASHERS are certainly NOT welcome :-) :-)
               

>Ajit.


>-----------------------------------------------
>        Ajit Tulpule

>email : atulpule@business.carleton.ca
	Is this some elaborate joke OR just another
	example of not practising what you preach ?



	Bhaskar


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jmukherj@athena.mit.edu (Jaideep Mukherjee)
Subject: Re: WHAT DOES THIS HINDI/URDU WORD MEAN.....
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 04:04:16 GMT

In article <167C712E93.A0K5719@tamvm1.tamu.edu> A0K5719@tamvm1.tamu.edu writes:
>Hi netters, I have come across this word *HAALA* in Haribans Rai Bachchan's
>"Madhushala". This could be a hindi/urdu word but looks more like a hindi
>word to me. This word has been used in several sentences in the poem and at
>each place it seems to have a different meaning/context. For example:
> 
>chhot se jeevan me kitna pyaar karoon, pee loon HAALA
> 
>yam (as in yamraj) aaega saqi bankar, saath liye kaali HAALA
> 
>mere adharon par ho antim, vastu na ganga jal HAALA
> 
>Does anybody know the meaning??
> 
>anil

 There is a similar sounding Bengali word derived from Sanskrit that
means poison. I can see this making sense for the first two lines
above, but can't figure out how it would fit into the third.

Jaideep

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: krish@athena.mit.edu (Viswanathan Krishnan)
Subject: NEWS TRACK AT MIT, HARVARD SOUTH ASIA SEMINARS
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:26:03 GMT

MIT Center for International Studies shows the News Track Video
on the second thursday, every month. (this thurday, the next 
issue will be shown). News Track, as you may know, is an
interesting video magazine, produced by the publishers of
India Today. Center for International Studies is opposite
the Kendall Square T-station, in building E38 (6th floor).

Harvard is hosting a series of seminars on South Asia. The seminars are
quite interesting, we have found from personal experience. Arun
Shourie was featured last month.

Here is the schedule for the remaining talks this semester
--------------------------------------------------------------

Venue:  Seminar Room 2, Coolidge Hall, Harvard University.

April 10: Ali Asani, Harvard University, 12.15-1.45 PM

"Muslim Self-Identity in South Asia: A Historical-Cultural Perspective"

April 24: Ashis Nandy, Center for the Study of Developing Societies, Delhi

        "Limits of Communal Violence: Reflections on Ayodhya"
                                 12.15-1.45PM

-----------------------------------------------------------------


	"Let noble thoughts come to us from all sides"

 	Viswanathan Krishnan: krish@athena.mit.edu
MIT Room: E53-340                       550 Memorial Drive #22F
Ph: (617)-253-0250                      Cambridge, MA 02138
FAX: (617)-258-7579                     (617)225-2683
From: ajayshah@alhena.usc.edu (Ajay Shah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: IMPACT OF ECONOMIC REFORMS
Date: 9 Apr 1992 14:26:50 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: alhena.usc.edu

scindia@IASTATE.EDU (Shekhar K Scindia) writes:

> Imagine 1 Dollar = 1 Ruppee !
> Many among us would start packing their bags if that happens !!
> This thought is conservative ! There is one real optimistic Indian here
> who feels the day is not far when we may have 1 Ruppee = 30 Dollars !!!!!

This is a common fallacy.

The strength of an economy has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the
exchange rate.

Example: the Japanese yen is 135 yen/$.  Does that make the US $
"superior" in any sense?  Does it make the standard of living in
Japan inferior?  (FYI the Japanese per capita income is > the US).

Similarly, I could hold the exchange rate constant at Rs. 30/$,
and multiply each Indian's productivity 25x.  That would give
India a p.c. GNP greater than the US.  The exchange rate does not
matter zilch.

In short: focus on income, which is a monotonic transform from
productivity.  That is everything.  A country is strong when
it's people have the skills and the capital needed to be highly
productive.  The exchange rate has nothing to do with productivity.

(Not to mention something faintly odious about talk of "packing
up your bags" to leave the US the moment the Indian economy is
strong enough).

        -ans.
-- 

Ajay Shah, (213)749-8133, ajayshah@usc.edu
From: desai@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Rajesh B. Desai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: A joke about mathematicians ( with due respects to them)
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:52:38 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Arizona State University

In article <1992Apr14.234516.24262@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu>, aksimha@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Arun Simha) writes:
> In article <1992Apr14.184030.22290@wuecl.wustl.edu> rr2@cec1.wustl.edu (Rajamiyer Ravichandran) writes:
> >
> >
> >    This joke was told by one of our faculty members in class.
> >
>    ----stuff deleted-----
> 
> 
>   "A physicist, an engineer and a mathematician were asked the same 
>    question, 'What is 3 times 3?'
> 
>    ----stuff deleted-----
>  Arun


	Read this in a management book with those pretty cartoons.

	A manager who wanted to employ a secrectary  asked a psycologist
	friend of his , to help him make a selection.

	The choice boiled down to the last 3 ladies.
	The psycologist friend asked each one of them a single question.
	"What is one and one?"

	The first replied "That's Two".
	The second said   "That's eleven".
	The third said that it could be two or eleven or one...

	Finally the P.friend trying to help the manager analysed.
	You know... the first one is the obvious type, 
		    the second is the deductive type,
		    and the third one is plain smart.
	So? Who are U going to choose?

	MANAGER: Heck! I'll take the blond with the long legs!!

Rajesh.
From: uds@parvathi.cs.wayne.edu (Seetamraju)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Asimov
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:24:03 GMT
Organization: Wayne State University

In article <1992Apr8.025218.27705@mtholyoke.edu> ksircar@mtholyoke.edu ( *T*) writes:
>I am sorry to post the news that Isaac Asimov died on the morning of
>April 6th. He was 72 (is that correct?). 
>							*T*

Bossu, Is this true?  Bossu, his books were the only fiction books I read
Completely  in the last 4-5 years.  Any discussion -- foundation, 2nd,
(what's the name of the robot:D-something).  To pacify the others insert some
relevence to Hinduism.

I remember I.A. using names very similar to my-name-without-blanks.

In my opinion, the center of the galaxy - what's the planet's name again? -
where Hari Seldon, makes a tour of various cultures to help form his theory,
resembles India.  (this sentence for the benefit of the other netters).

Seetamraju, Uday Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ss0 . eng . wayne . edu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ghosh@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Sanjoy Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Arranged Marriages...
Organization: Univ of Illinois, Center for Supercomputing R&D, Urbana, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 05:36:16 GMT

In article <kukdivINNj36@oporto.cs.utexas.edu> shubu@cs.utexas.edu (Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee) writes:

>How many couples do you think break up amicably?  If the situation 
>was so delightful then we wouldn't have perhaps seen so many divorce
>cases taken to court.

Many more than you think.  The fact is that the nasty, messy ones 
are the only ones we hear about.  The amicable ones happen without 
the general public like us knowing anything about it.  Especially 
ones where the divorce is put off till the children grow up, etc. 
are not the stuff of 'LA Law'.

>What you mean to say is once you reach the pinnacle of your career 
>you can peacefully ditch the person who stuck with you through 
>your starving graduate says!  Bravo Sanjoy!

There again you make assumptions that prove the undoing of many 
an argument on sci.  It is not necessarily the one that reaches 
the pinnacle who may want to leave the other.  The other person 
who probably is happier than the one at the pinnacle may be the 
one wanting out.  Just to give you an example, in Abhimaan it was
Amitabh who was sick of Jaya when she became famous, not the other
way around.  And don't tell me that happens only in the movies.

Sanjoy Ghosh
ghosh@csrd.uiuc.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 23:07:06 EDT
From: <KXK140@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject:    looking for sanjay vishin

I am Srinivas Rao from Dayalbagh. I am right now located in  State College, Pa
as part of a training program at Corning. I am leaving to India on April 15.
I hope to get in touch with you before i Leave. My telephone number is
814-231-1214. I think it is better to call me because this E-Mail account is no
t under my name.
Srinivas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:05:02 -0400 
From: "Arun K. Gupta" <ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: REQUEST TO ARUN GUPTA (LONG)



In reply to Kumar Vadaparty:

(i) yes, I did lose my temper, always a foolish thing to do.
(ii)by posting the Muslim viewpoint (or at least what part of
it I could find in print) I risk annoying only Hindus. Just
as when I post my views on s.c.pakistan I risk annoying Muslims.
The law of averages as judged by flames received in the past
goes to prove this.
(iii) by saying that the Jinnah-Nehru relationship was no more
than a slightly more dignified version of what goes on here on
the net is (i) firstly, my opinion, as I very clearly stated,
and (ii) secondly, a criticism of their interaction -- and
not a criticism or endorsement of what they stood for. They
did not like each other, and this interfered with their understanding
each other's positions. (Analogous to saying - he's from A.M.U., he
must be a communalist, rather than listening to the content of the
thought.)

(iii) the correct statement of Muslim-Hindu relations is that in
certain eras and certain times, Hindus were persecuted by Muslims.
The situation changes even over the course of a single ruler. For
example, Akbar started off as a persecutor of Hindus, (in his own
words) but the latter 2/3 of his rule are really marked by
a disdain for Islam and a very liberal attitude towards all
other religions.

Secondly, while Hindus may not have persecuted Muslims on
the same scale, did you know that (i) after the sack of
Somnath, Mahmud of Ghazni's army faced difficulties and
had to retreat wholesale ? (read K.M. Munshi). (ii) that
soldiers captured from his army were converted to Hindus ?
(read K.M.Munshi)

And so on.
Read everyone's version of history -- its quite interesting.
Our prejudices today are built on too many myths.

arun  gupta
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: chansze@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (CHAN  Sze Keong)
Subject: Re: Pyar Kiya To Darna Kyaa.
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:57:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.094141.2845@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> un034156@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>
>
>	PYAR KIYA TO DARNA KYA,
>	   AIDS HOOA TO KARNA KYA.
>
>	THIS IS THE NAME OF THE MOVIE, WHICH WAS RELEASED IN BOMBAY IN 1987.
>
	Ever heard of the song?
>	DAN FIELDING.  

Harry :-)


email:srini@comm.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: CITY OF JOY:my opinion
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:47:09 GMT

>
>In a nutshell, it would be nice to bring the awareness about our culture
>to a "decent" level before we try to educate others about it. Yes, I am
>making a lot of assumptions about such movies (such as "they are trying to
>educate others about Indian culture or life"), but if these movies are meant 
>for entertainment, then I think they are a little bit irresponsible.
>
>- Nand
>nand@not-and.eng.sun.com
Role of a movie is not to educate: that is the role of documentaries: movie
is an art form, which can be used for entertainment, or just as a method of
expressing one's innerself: which is true art. However, movie-making being
an expensive business; nobody can ignore the entertainment factor all together.
I have not seen City of Joy. But Missisipi Massala is an excellent movie, both
from the art and entertainment point. Does not compare with the best in either
category,e.g. Modern Times (Arts) or Ben-Hur (Entertainment). But in no way
is a movie-maker obliged to educate. You can make such movies if you want to;
but that's your choice and very seldom do they make good movies.
Arindam
From: sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Indians Protest Libyan sanctions
Date: 16 Apr 1992 18:43:21 GMT
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: altair.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <Apr.16.13.58.58.1992.19104@ring8.rutgers.edu>, ratan@ring8.rutgers.edu (Santosh Ratan) writes:
|> In article <92107.100740TAZ@psuvm.psu.edu>, TAZ@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
|> > This morning's newspaper had a picture of people burning G. Bush's effigy
|> > in front of Jama Masjid in New Delhi to protest the sanctions against Libya.
|> > They were carrying signs of 'Down with US, UK and France'. I wonder if this is
|> > why India rather abstained from the vote in the security council.
|> 
|> 
|> Why are pjeople mad at Bush, or UK, or France? 
|> Wasn't it decided by the UNO? If a nation (e.g., India) is a member of such
|> organization then that nation is equally responsible for whatever
|> decision is made by the organization. Why are people so ignorant?

Let's not be naive, shall we? It should be obvious to even a blind person that
the UN Security Council is essentially a body committed to furthering the causes,
legitimate and illegitimate, of the Permanent members. Whenever one or more of the
5 can beg, threaten, cajole and/or bribe the others into going along with
something that they want done in the Security Council, stuff happens; more often
than not, cloaked in layers of crap like "... the international community has
decided this and that ...". The non-Permanent members can, more often than not,
be bought over with threats/bribes of aid, support for other issues, etc. They
will shout from the roof-tops that whatever is happening is a glorious affirmation
of principle, when principle is the furthest thing from their minds.

Now, I do believe that Qadhafy deserves everything that he is getting, but the
fact that Syria is getting away with it when they are as culpable as Libya shows
the hypocrisy of the whole thing. 

-srinivas
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mitra@dfe.dec.com (JoyDeep Mitra)
Subject: CLASSICAL MUSIC CONCERT BY SARANGI MAESTRO
Followup-To: mitra@dfe.dec.com
Keywords: Hindustani classical music, sarangi
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Santa Clara, CA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 18:40:55 GMT

There will be a classical music concert by the sarangi maestro Ustad Sultan Khan
tonight at 7.30 PM in Fremont California. Tabla accompaniment will be by Ravi
Gutala (one of the most senior students of Swapan Chowdhury). Tickets will be
$12 per person. Following are the directions and phone numbers:

From I 880(17) take the Fremont Blvd. exit going East.
Take a right onto Grimmer.
Pass 2 stop signs and take a left onto Park Meadows St.
Take a left into Park meadows place.

Its the first house on your left, 2000 Park Meadows Place.

You may also call Gracy at:

(510)793-6242(H)
(510)498-1021
(415)513-5633(W)

Enjoy!

--Joydeep Mitra
From: rags@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Raghavan Jayaraman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Forgeries of Hindu Texts
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:26:30 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois

In article <gdujVOC00aw=EPOkks@andrew.cmu.edu> ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Arun K. Gupta) writes:
>
>
>Raghavan Jayaraman wonders why I posted the article to
>s.c.bangla and pakistan. This is because there has been
>discussion recently (on both bboards) about the Hindu
>scriptures predicting the advent of the Prophet Muhammad,
>in the so-called Allah Upanishad, Bhavishya Purana, etc.
>Needless to say, these books are items of recent manufacture.
>
>Secondly, the author of the Encyclopedia is no ignoramus --
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^  
>though he may have ideological bias.
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>-arun gupta
>ag3L@andrew.cmu.edu

I would not be bothered if he is an ignoramus. The fact that he has
ideological bias is the prime reason for my concern. Also the title of this
post is venomous and shows the author's bias.  Talking about Max Muller
many of his contemporaries disagreed with him. For example Trompf [Sp]
accuses Muller as a man who makes sweeping conclusions with out much
evidences. He is also said to have contacts with rationalists/iconoclasts
in India during his studies. This is important due to the fact that his
books are major source on vedas for many.

One should understand that even among pious hindus, there is a difference
of opinion with regard to correctness of including all scriptures under
vedas. But nothing has been proved  yet to satisfaction.

In my opinion, a decent act of anyone who claims to be neutral, is to give
this benefit of doubt and reason within limits.

raghavan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ss7k+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shvetank Shah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: More GUJJU jokes
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:44:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.gdt7FIG00UhBA2sks9
	<1992Apr8.221405.1@woods.ulowell.edu>
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts From Captions of netnews.soc.culture.indian:
 9-Apr-92  Re: More GUJJU jokes           kotharib@woods.ulowell.e (475)    
>> Q.	What's better than roses on your piano?
>> A.	Tulips on your organ!
>>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>What is that. Very hard to understand. Is it joke? If it is joke then I think
> I
>should have to laugh. I mean I am forced to laugh. 


    It's called fellatio.  Look that up in Webster's.


>Be Precise Brother...

    You've been watching too much MTV.  Take it easy, Brother.

 
>Thanks.
> 
>- Whispers 


Did you know that Whispers was the name of a P&G sanitary napkin??????  






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From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Netiquette
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:35:56 GMT


In many ways I agree with udcrusd@meaddata.com. I've been receiving a stream
of half-witted e-mail all day from various illiterates and I'm getting tired
of it. I'm going to start dumping it on the net if I think it's unusually 
stupid because that's where it belongs since it was my posting(s)
that aroused the need to communicate in these persons.


George
From: grx0751@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: INDIAN MEN and MARRIAGE
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:39:50 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <4513@verdix.verdix.com>, dharma@verdix.com (Manjeri Dharmarajan) 
writes:

> Past discrimination is no excuse to beat up on men, today. Neither does it
> justify any compensation to women of today. If a person's only reason to be 
> insecure is that people of their gender faced rejections in the past, then 
> they are crazy.
> 
> Past discrimination is only relevant insofar as it affects present attitudes.
> You can claim redress or revenge only if you personally have been 
> discriminated against.
> 
> 	Dharmarajan

	Excellently put, Mr. Dharmarajan. Couldn't have said it better myself.
	By the way, a while ago, I sent you Email. Wondering if you have
	received it.

	Siva Prasad.
From: ggyy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: G.C. Thru Marriage to an American Citizen
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:42:10 EDT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

I am posting this for a friend of mine who does not have access to the net


HI,  I am planning to get married soon and my wife is an american citizen. i
plan to apply for a green card soon after that. if anyone of you has been thru
this experience can you provide me some information reggarding what the 
process is and how long the whole process takes. i will be very thankful if you
send this information on my e-mail address

anil@jgsm2.gsm.cornell.edu


thanks in advance,

anil
From: jasjit@cc.gatech.edu (Jasjit Singh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Mamma's Pallu Vs. Papa's Lungi
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:33:39 GMT
Reply-To: jasjit@cc.gatech.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Hi fellas! The following is a letter that I recently wrote to my mom
following objections by some young womyn that the Indian men hold mama's
pallu.

Dear Ma,
Namaskar! Charan Sparsh !
The girls here are teasing me for holding your pallu. So I have decided to let
go of your pallu, and hold ol pa's lungi instead. I hope that is okay with
you, and the old man would allow it too. I want to become an independent
Indian man, and would like your blessings to marry an independent Indian
woman. She might not cook for you, but she knows all about music - from
Brian Adams to Makhanlal Jaikishan.
Rest later, have to go now.
I hope the tensile strength of pa's lungi >= that of your pallu, so that it
bears my weight!
Jai Mata Di
-Jasjit
 


jasjit@cc.gatech.edu
From: rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: On the existence of Paramatma
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:09:32 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

Vashistha writes:

>  The bottomline is that the worldly possessions are unreal. If they are
>  real, they should be real at all times. When a man sleeps, he has no
>  conciousness about any of his possessions, his relatives,his enemies or
>  whatever. He is in a state of happiness. The moment he wakes up,
>  the moment he attaches himself into the world, he is unhappy.
>  He has worries,anxieties, tax forms, all kinds of things.
>  The world is real to him. Yet,he is unhappy.
>  Shankara calls this worldly attachment as "Maya". He suggests people
>  to realise their true SELF - to understand who they are.
>  Realising the true self is the ABSOLUTE KNOWLEDGE in the
>  upanishads' teachings.

	
	It should not be forgotten, however, that the hunger that
	one feels in the "dream state" can only be satisfied by
	the "dream food."
	
	Sankara said: Self is real and World is illusion;
	              and Self is the World.
	
	Thus, the world byitself is unreal, but the Self as World is real.
	
	Thanks for the article. [Please keep posting on the subject.]
	
	
---raj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian