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From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: What Koontz Say
Date: 20 Nov 1992 00:12:48 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: rec
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Keywords: Computer predictions

In article <1317@fozzy.UUCP> ckoontz@aud.alcatel.com writes:
>Unfortunately, there were quite a few more losses this week than wins.  I
>have therefore decided to temporarily refrain from posting picks for college
>football games.  I would like to say thank you to all of the faithful fans
>who have given me so much support over the last couple of weeks.  Your 
>encouragement has been accepted very warmly by myself and all of those who
>are close to me.  I love you all.
   
   Huh?
   Is this a beauty pageant or what?

>P.S.  Don't worry fans, I will continue to post weekly NFL predictions in
>      rec.sport.football.pro due to their success and the overwhelming
>      popular demand.

   Boy, you had me worried there for awhile. I didn't know what I'd do 
   without those predictions. I also have to comment that they haven't
   been posted for more than a week or two and weren't very successful.
   Hell, I have no *system* and I went 9-5 in the NFL against the spread
   last week and did okay in the college pool. Unless the demand for
   your prediction postings was entirely in Email, I'd recommend that you
   stop living in a dream world and worrying so much about being accepted.

   --salty

   p.s. I want to heartily thank all of you who have confided in me that
   you too don't think the Badgers suck. I love you all. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: Question: Alabama-Kentucky 1988
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:25:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.215227.24665@b11.b11.ingr.com>, gibson@b11.b11.ingr.com (Stanley) writes:
> In article <z-v15#d@rpi.edu> kollur@jec330.its.rpi.edu (Ramana Kolluri) writes:
>> I have a question for anyone who remembers the '88 Alabama-Kentucky game

>  5)This was about the time Bama had a highly touted QB named Billy Ray.
>    He left and went to some ACC school.

He went to Duke, Steve Spurrier was the coach.  Billy Ray was quoted in the
paper as saying that Duke players actually had to study, that they took
their books with them on road trips.  They even studied on friday nights
before all games, home and away.  He also commented that this was not the
case at alabama when he was there...

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@accs.duc.auburn.edu
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Possible #1 vs. #2 matchup in major bowl games.
Date: 19 Nov 92 05:44:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Nov19.054432.26030
Distribution: usa
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <brewers.722072933@camelot> brewers@camelot.bradley.edu (James Kimble) writes:
>As far as I'm concerned, the best matchup would be Miami/FSU, but that
>will never happen because of the fact that there is no alliance with
>an independent and the ACC.  Although, ND/FSU would be a pretty darn
>good game and quite easy to market.


Well, Miami is not an independent, but a member of the Big East.  

Secondly, though I think a Miami/FSU game could be interesting, but I think
the Miami/Alabama game would be more so.  Why??  Simple, if Miami and FSU
play, and FSU wins, it still leaves doubts as to who is better, as Miami would
have beaten FSU as well.  With Alabama being unbeaten and untied, no one
can say they are truly better than the Tide until the Tide is beaten.  Same
with Texas A&M.  Sure, I believe Miami has done more to PROVE they are better,
with the tougher schedule, but this doesn't erase what could happen on the
field.  With Miami/Alabama, you have the nations top 2 undefeated teams 
(ok, throw Texas A&M in there as well).  When the play, and one team leaves
the field undefeated, there can be no doubts...

-- 
David T. Meeks            || "New shadows tugging at the corner of his eye
VMark Software, Inc.      ||  Jostling for attention as the sunlight flares
uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"
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From: tktg6901@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai)
Subject: Re: Excessive Celebration Penalty
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:49:19 GMT

mbs@zycor.lgc.com (Matt Shostak) writes:
>calls, but they also have many go against them.  In fact, I think refs
>call games differently when ND is playing.  They rarely call certain penalties
>against Irish opponents, and could it be that
>subconsciously they are concerned about making calls in ND's favor, and
>therefore often bend too far the other way?  Again and again over the last
>several years I have seen blatant holds against the Irish go uncalled.
Is this really true?  I would like to see how many non-Irish fans believe this.

>This is less obvious than a bad call on a fumble or sideline call late in
>the game that the networks show over and over on replay, but it can still
>have a huge impact on the game.  Overall, I think the officiating over the
This is true.  I was noticing how during the discussion of the bad calls in the
BYU-Notre Dame game, nobody mentioned the Mirer interception that was ruled a
dropped ball.  The replay clearly showed an interception.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: wlay@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Radio 90.1 FM WLAY Tarkington Hall)
Subject: Re: Anyone have the lyrics to "Indiana, You Big Banana"?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:15:42 GMT

YES!! I have lyrics to the IU anti-fight..

	Oh Indiana, you big banana
	Indiana to hell with you 
	We will fight for our cream and coffee
	and the honor of old Purdue

	At the altar you'll always falter
 	In the battle you're black and blue
	Indiana, you big banana
	Oh Indiana, to hell with you!

	SCREW IU!!!!!

GO BOILERS!!! Take back the Bucket before I'm outta here!

-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
  Ron Steve, Station Manager      |  "My views are my own and do not 
  Radio 90.1 FM WLAY              |   reflect those of WLAY, Tarkington 
  Tarkington Hall                 |   Hall, or (especially) Purdue 
                                  |   University!!"(they might this time)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

 90.1 FM  WLAY  Tarkington Hall -=- "West Lafayette's Get Lucky Radio Station."
From: reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu (Alireza Vali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: usc vs arizona
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:19:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.83771
Distribution: usa

In article <1drpl8INN4db@aludra.usc.edu> malhotra@usc.edu (Arvind Malhotra) writes:
>the lines given in usa today for the upcoming games favors trojans over 
>wildcats by three... and earlier when wsu cougars were #13 and trojans 
>were #15... the line favored trojans by three. any explanations!!!!
>( do i see history repeating itself ???)


One thing you have to keep in mind is that the home team gets a +3 bonus
when they come up with the spread.  Hence, at a neutral site, it would be
even odds, and if the game were at Arizona, it would have been Wildcats -3.
They play(ed) at USC, hence the line USC -3.




-- 
Ali R. Vali - reza@magellan.ae.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: knightb@abulafia.b21.ingr.com (William B. Knight)
Subject: Re: Georgia 14, Auburn 10
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:45:14 GMT

In article <7044@news.duke.edu> daniel@acpub.duke.edu (Daniel Crawford) writes:

>Of course, one of Auburn's touchdowns came after an offensive lineman
>pushed his own ball carrier into the endzone around the defensive back.
>(This is illegal, by the way.) So, if the offcials were perfect, then AU
>would have been down by 9 instead of 2.  

And on Hearst's 64 yd TD reception, Georgia had 2 men in motion and so
on and so forth.  I thought the refs did a pretty good job of staying out
of the game and only mildly blew it at the end.  AU definitely got screwed,
but should have run 2 pass plays before trying the run up the middle.

Hasting's punt reception in the endzone was correctly called a touchback.


-- 
Brad Knight 
knightb@abulafia.b21.ingr.com

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: Down to Business (OU/NU)
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:50:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.112252@trc.amoco.com> zmed0b@trc.amoco.com (Michael) writes:
>
>Okay, now we get down to business in the season.  Nebraska's Orange Bowl hopes
>and Oklahoma's ANY bowl hopes come down to the game on Nov. 27 in Norman.  And
>anybody who knows this series knows this one is gonna be tough as nails.  Nebraska
>needs a win.  A tie would put the Orange Bowl in question with Colorado.  OU
>needs a win to have a chance at any bowl appearance as NCAA regulations require
>6 wins to progress to even be considered for a bowl.  Plenty on the line. Sound
>familiar?
>
>This one is tough for me because the idea of Colorado in the Orange Bowl is
>very unappealing.  While Nebraska (and Texas) are probably OU's arch rivals,
>we have tremendous respect for Tom Osbourne and the Huskers.  Even though I
>would like to see Oklahoma in some bowl, I would prefer to be bested by
>Nebraska for the Orange Bowl rather than Colorado.  Tough call.  I'm sure both
>teams understand the importance of the game and will be fired up.

Wait a second.  Rooting for your team takes precedence over rooting 
against another team, in my book.  Even if it is CU.  And if CU does go
to the OB, I'll gladly woof for them.  They are in the B8 "family."  And
they do play exciting football.

>
>Mike
>
>P.S. - Was at the OU/OSU game Saturday.  Very good game by both teams.  No
>       Steve Collins, though?  While OSU has done well against the option, I
>       would have liked to have seen Steve see a little action and see how he
>       fared.  Gundy did relatively well, though, considering that he hadn't
>       played in 3 weeks.  

I agree.  Why not put Collins in just for one series, say to begin the 3rd
quarter, and see how OSU adjusts?  It couldn't have made matters much worse.
They totally stuffed our run.  Maybe Steve could have loosened it up.

    OOOO      
   O    O     =================================== |       Bill Dostalik
   O  U O  U          Oklahoma Sooners            |   dostalik@utdallas.edu
   O  U O  U  National College Football Champions |     Dept. of Physics    
    OOOO   U     1950 1955 1956 1974 1975 1985    | Univ. of Oklahoma @ Dallas
      U    U  =================================== | 
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From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: NCSU to the Orange Bowl! (correction)
Originator: delarocq@c00059-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:25:31 GMT




  Alabama loses to Auburn... :)
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: killer@robin.cs.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa)
Subject: Re: Excessive Celebration Penalty
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:45:57 GMT

In <1e9032INNl1q@haydn.crhc.uiuc.edu> ttsai@crhc.uiuc.edu (Timothy Tsai) writes:

>But what happens with an offensive penalty?  If an excessive penalty had been
>called on Notre Dame on the touchdown, would yards have been marked off on the
>conversion or the kickoff?

Either, the captain of the defense may choose.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: crobbins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Chris S. Robbins)
Subject: Re: A&M beats TCU...
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:47:12 GMT

(WEYLAND,MARK) writes:

>Just to shut them up.  (they,
>r.s.f.c fsu, sure do talk a lot of shit)

And aggies as a whole dont talk shit at all.  RIGHT.

-Chris (in UT student section Thanksgiving night!!!)
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:06:34 EST
From: <JCT3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Name That Tune

In article <1992Nov19.111119.61048@cc.usu.edu>, sl45z@cc.usu.edu says:
>
>        This is just to display my new signature.  Can anyone name that tune?
>--
>|||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
>|
>|||||
>     |  Travis L. Clements |    With all the anger in the land
>     |  N. Logan, Utah     |    How long before the judgement day?
>     ----------------------|    Before we cut the Fat Ones* down to size?
>    * Miami, A&M, Michigan |    Before the Woofing Gods arrive?
>    Notre Dame, Florida St |
>|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|+|

The song is from Les Miserables.  I believe it's "Look Down," but I'm not
positive.


Jim Thomas
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:51:35 -0500 
From: Scott Gregory <wg2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: PAC-10 HYPE

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.football.college: 15-Nov-92 PAC-10 HYPE
by bill the cat@shelley.u.w 
>   PAC ten compitition is real tough because Stanford, Arizona,
Washington, USC
> ,
> are capable of beating any team in the country "on any given saturday".  
> Washington state, Oregon, and UCLA are capable of defeating any PAC-10 team 
> "on any given Saturday".  There are only a couple of teams that aren't 
> considered threats.  Washington didn't lose to the best team in the PAC-10...
> Miami didn't beat the best team in the PAC-10.  
>   The standings in the pac ten tell it all.
> Washington is the best team; Stanford, Arizona, and USC prooved they can play
> with the best but they aren't going to the ROSE BOWL!
> wessir

    If you are going to hype U-dub, at least don't ruin any shred of
credibility you may have by saying UCLA is capable of beating any PAC-10
team on any given Saturday.  There certainly have been quite a lot of
Saturdays that they've been crushed, yes?


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: th9708@meibm8.cen.uiuc.edu (Todd Lee Henderson)
Subject: Re: A&M beats TCU...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 01:01:12 GMT

jphillip@comanche.ess.harris.com (John Phillips) writes:

>>Mark Weyland writes

>> Just to shut them up.  (they, 
>>r.s.f.c fsu, sure do talk a lot of shit)

>As you found out last year in Cotton-A&M bowl, we also come to play.
>Oh yeah, if you show up this year, bring an offense. There were an 
>awful lot of cold lips at last years game.

If it's A&M-fsu in the CB again, I think it might be nice if both
teams brought an offense.  What was the lowest point outing for fsu
last year???

Todd
tamu@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu

>J.P.
From: seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: A&M's "weak" schedule
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:14:11 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bcserv.wustl.edu

whn6479@rigel.tamu.edu (I'm Will Newnum. Who the Hell are you?) writes:

>I wonder how many out there nationally realize one of the biggest reasons for
>the SWC remaining together up to this point.  The TX legislature has threatened
>to slash the funding for us or Texas if we leave the conference.  In short,
>they don't give a damn whether I get an education or not.  They just want the 
>SWC to be preserved.  SMU deciding not to drop from div. I will make it very
>difficult to leave.  
>     Also, I wonder how many of the people out there who trash A&M have seen us

Give me a break!! If you (read A&M, UT) want to leave so bad, have some
balls and leave. Texas Tech doesn't get a dime of the Permanent University
Fund and my education was quite good. Whether the SWC stays together has
little or nothing to do with the quality of the education you will get.
Some of the best educational institutions in the country are athletic
independents.

As for those of you who think UT has the only decent women's athletics
(read Jay) need I remind you who won the SWC basketball last year and 
made the sweet 16 of the NCAA (Texas Tech) and who else in the SWC
has a ranked volleyball team (Texas Tech and Houston).

So, quit making excuses and just get the hell out of the SWC if it's
not good enough for you! I'm sure the rest of us will survive, somehow.

-Jeff (Sure wish we had some PUF money) Seale




Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: morse@satie.cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Copper Bowl (was Re: thanks minnesota!)
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:43:23 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill

In article <1992Nov22.1539.17779@execnet> "al sorhaindo" <al.sorhaindo@execnet.com> writes:
>Thank you, University of Minnesota!!!
>  Your season ending thumping of Iowa has done a great service for
>college football. Had the now 5-7 Hawkeyes won, they would have 
>played in a bowl, possibly taking a spot away from more deserving
>squads like Washington State(8-3).
>
>Washington State is 8-3 with victories over Washington(9-2), UCLA(6-5),
>Arizona(6-4-1), and Fresno State(6-4). 
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hmm...  Fresno State, with their victory over San Diego State this week
can, with a victory over UTEP, clinch at least a share of the WAC title
and, by tie-breakers and rankings, the WAC #3 spot in the Copper Bowl.
What does this do to a potential WSU invitation to the Copper Bowl?
With the victory over UW this week WSU can probably go to an even better 
game, but what if it does come down to this one?  

Would the Copper Bowl honor its deal with the WAC? 
Would it set up a rematch by inviting WSU?
Would WSU take it?
Would Fresno State?

-- 
Bryan Morse                University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
morse@cs.unc.edu           Department of Computer Science
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com (Tony Bowman)
Subject: Disgusted with the crap on the net
Reply-To: tjb@emt.b17c.ingr.com  
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:11:38 GMT

	You folks must not have anything better to do !!!  I've been reading
	posts this morning to see what the general feeling was.  All I see
	is FSU is blah, blah and Alabama sucks and A&M is the best and so
	on and so on.  Bama won period.  State played a HELLUVA game !!!!!!!
	They were ranked 16th.  The deserved it and probably more.  Bama
	slacked up and State wouldn't quit.  I never expected them too.
	The mindless cutting of other teams is stupid.  Just congradulate
	the winners for winning, the losers for playing well and wish each
	other luck.  I was there and enjoyed the game.  Good luck to you
	State, you've got a great team and a great coach. I'll worry about
	you guys again next year !!
		And now, on to the next step.

		HERE, KITTY KITTY

	bring on them tigers !!!

	Roll Tide !!
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Texas 35 SMU 14
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:00:11 GMT

In article <BxttqI.EGn@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy  
Peppler) writes:

> 	Where is the Baylor-UT game to be played?

On artificial turf.

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Newsgroups: osu.sports,rec.sport.football.college
From: mjo@beat.b24b.ingr.com (Michael J. Oatley)
Subject: Re: no respect for tOSU
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:01:16 GMT

How about no respect from tOSU? I went up to Columbus for the game, my 
first UM-OSU game. (I grew up in MI, now living in Alabama...) I don't 
think I have ever been made to feel so unwelcome, at the very least, and
actually threatened, at the worst, on an opposing campus. Very, very 
disappointed with the poor conduct and lack of class exhibited by the
OSU fans.

Now, the noise in the stadium - no complaint. The home folks are the home
advantage, right? But having a beer bottle tossed at you while walking 
down the street? Verbal harassment from passing carloads of fans? Granted,
I was alone, wearing a UM sweatshirt and an easy target for the spineless
types who evidently are in abundance among the OSU student body & fans.

We're now going through Iron Bowl week here in Alabama - the week
preceeding the Bama-Auburn game, and it can get pretty nasty. But there
always seems to be some underlying sense of respect for the opponent.
Maybe it's because we all live here in the state together, we have schoolmates,
relatives and friends at the opposing university. I remember going down
to Auburn in '89, as an Bama partisan, for Bama's first game on the Plains.
We were treated in a very classy manner almost without exception (except
for the fool who ran out of the Auburn student section, down to in front
of the Bama section, shooting birds.)

I thought all the bitchy, whiny shit that's showed up in this newsgroup,
and eminating from Columbus couldn't be representative of the true sentiment
in Ohio. Alas, it is hardly the tip of the iceberg. Such a lack of class!
Such a display of no restraint! Bitter & frustrated, the Buckeye faithfull
seem to be. And quick to blame Michigan for it all, too! 

I'm with Mo on this one: UM-MSU & UM-ND are much bigger games for the
Wolverines. I tell you, this series could use a big dose of mutual respect,
but for OSU fans that may be a bitter pill to swallow. Their actions 
indicate a lack of SELF-respect.

As for Michigan, 8-0-3 or 3-0-8, they've got nothing the be ashamed of. A fine
football team that always comports itself with style and dignity. A tradition
that is much envied. Say what you will about the lack of MNC's or Rose
Bowl losses - those things obviously bother the rest of the football-following
nation than it does U-M and it's fans, who seem to have a better sense of
what's really important.

It's a true shame that the Buckeyes are unable to hold up their half of what
could be one of college football's centerpiece games!

 +---+------------+
 | M | GO BLUE!!! |
 +---+------------+


Michael J. Oatley 
Intergraph Corp.
Huntsville, AL