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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Fruitcake
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:00:51 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1goctjINNk76@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> banshee@cats.ucsc.edu (Wailer at the Gates of Dawn) writes:

|	If you receive a fruitcake this christmas and do not want it,
|	please send me mail.  I will take it from you.

Have you read ba.singles lately?  There's been quite a few in there recently.
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Newsgroups: ba.general
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Rasputin's vs. Ameoba!! and Hear
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:45:32 GMT

dx@netcom.com (dx) writes:

>> Rasputin's Records in Berkeley is now in a larger building, but I think
>> they still don't have as much stuff as Amoeba. What do you think?

>Rasputin's has put all their same surly, unhelpful and unpleasant
>employees into a new monolith.  New building, same store.

Nice comment. I got a real laugh last time I was in the new Rasputin's,
listening to them trying to conrtol a crowd that seemed more into 
hanging out on a Saturday night than in shopping. The PA annouced: 
"There is no smoking in Rasputins. There is NO SMOKING in Rasputins, 
pelase extinguish your cigaretes." A minute later, and obviously extremely
agitated - "Please do NOT put your cigarettes out on the floor at Rasputins."
I guess maybe you had to be there, but the tone of voice made this
pretty hilarious to me. 

>Amoeba, on the other hand, has a much more interesting stock, and most
>of the employees will even *talk* to you.

This is the bottom line for me - for the varieties of music I like I
find more of it at Amoeba. Rasputins is good if I want spend a lot of time
browsing a lot of junk to find a few bargains. Same goes for Amoeba's 
junk bins - there's good stuff put you have to pay for it with time 
and some stooping to find it. Overall I find Amoeba carries a lot more
obscure experimental jazz and rock stuff that I like, and it's obvious that
the staff ordering at Amoeba know what they're doing. 

Rasputins seems to be getting into some of the musical teritories that 
Amoeba excels at, but is doing a half-assed job. But I was amused to see
stuff like an AMON DUUL II bin pop up at Rasputins.  

>> There is a small CD place in West Berkeley called Hear. 

In case anyone is wondering, this in over near Spengers, on 4th or whatever
street runs in front of Spengers. I drove by there twice trying to find 
this place but couldn't spot it. Someone told me it's in the shops about
a block from Spengers, so hopefully I'll find it next time. Sounds like the
content won't impress me much. I wish more stores would let you listen 
before you buy, but imagining the lines for a player at Amoeba doesn't
make me think it's likely. 

  - Malcolm
From: marki@hpcupt3.cup.hp.com (Mark Ikemoto)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Information wanted
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:20:13 GMT
Organization: HP CCSY, Cupertino, CA

Hi John,

If you don't mind making a few toll calls....

How about calling up a library in Lodi/Stockton and ask the
librarian there for the information?  Depending on their budget
they might even be able to fax you selected pages of their telephone
book(s).  Call Information to get the phone numbers of the libraries.

Or contact the Chamber of Commerces in those cities.  They usually
keep track of established businesses in their areas.

Or contact the City Halls in those towns.  Aren't businesses
required to take out business licenses?  The Records Dept.
at City Hall should have the information.


If the business is affiliated with a large corporation, you can
call the company headquarters and ask for the information.

Also, I'm assuming you have the address or street for the place.
Depending on the type of business it is, you can do some sneaky
things like if the business is an auto repair shop, call a
couple towing companies in the area and ask if they know the
place.



Mark
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: kehoe@netcom.com (Thomas David Kehoe)
Subject: Re: Bookstore recommendation?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:13:04 GMT

>Try Bell's Books on Emerson (323-7822) in Palo Alto.  It's a high-end,
>high-service sort of used-book store.  Then there's Know Knew Books
>(326-9355) on California Avenue, the BookBuyers (322-1993) on Emerson, and
>Chimera (327-1122) on University.  Actually, while I have the phone book out,
>here's something called Abracadabra Booksearch International ("We Make Books
>Appear!"), (800)545-2665.

Sounds like what I needed.  I called Powell's in Portland
(they have an 800 #), they had the book, and shipped UPS
right away (the book was out of print).

BTW, the book was "The Language of Clothes", by Alison
Lurie.  It's a history of fashion explaining the social
trends going on behind the changing clothes.  There's
as many pictures as text, so it's a good Xmas present
for young women (e.g. my cousin) who like clothes but
don't like to read.

Another Xmas recommendation, for someone who does like
to read, is my mom's textbook "North American Indians"
(Dr. Alice Kehoe).  It's very readable.  I'm giving it
to a friend who came here from China a few years ago,
and knows nothing about American histpry.  University 
bookstores should have it for anthroplogy classes.

And while I recommending books, my two favorite novels
are "Civil Wars", by Rosellen Brown, and "Rumors of 
Peace" by Ella Leffland.  The latter is about a girl
growing up in the Bay Area during World War Two.
The former is about the family of former civil rights
leader, adjusting to life after the civil rights
movement has ended.

On the science fiction front, I liked "Life During
Wartime" by Lucius Shepard, and "Neuromancer" by
William Gibson.
-- 
"Why my thoughts are my own, when they are in, but when they are out
they are another's." - Susannah Martin, hanged for witchcraft, 1692.
Thomas David Kehoe          kehoe@netcom.com         (408) 354-5926
Xref: sparky ba.general:5246 misc.consumers.house:15692
From: charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.general,misc.consumers.house
Subject: Re: Structural Inspection
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:32:39 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology

In article <1992Dec11.200052.20441@netcom.com> shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:
>
>I would also recommend that when interviewing realtors, you interview
>for punctuality.  My realtor, Richard Travassos, of Re/Max Silicon
>Valley Real Estate, has been late to literally every meeting we have had
>with him, and hasn't been overly quick in getting this report to me,
>either.  There were various issues I had to ask him multiple times to 
>take care of before they were performed.  For the amount of money a
>realtor earns, I don't think I should have to keep following up with
>them to see that everything is taken care of.

Teri is, of course, correct.  That sort of poor performance on the part
of a realtor acting as your agent is inexcusable.  (I used a realtor
working in the Mountain View/Sunnyvale area who I can wholeheartedly
recommend, BTW, if anyone's interested.)

Also, $500 seems excessive for a structural report.  I paid $250
for mine, though my structure is undoubtedly smaller.

Charleen
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From: cole@unix.SRI.COM (Susan Cole)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Bookstore recommendation?
Date: 15 Dec 92 06:47:20 GMT
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

>	In article <1992Dec3.175729.27490@netcom.com>, kehoe@netcom.com (Thomas
>	David Kehoe) wrote:
>	> 
>	> I recently moved to Los Gatos, and want to buy someone
>	> a certain book for Christmas, that was published in
>	> 1982.  If I were in Portland, I'd just go to Powell's,
>	> one of the biggest bookstores in the country, with
>	> lots of older books.  Where should I call or look
>	> in the Bay Area?

Try Bell's Books on Emerson (323-7822) in Palo Alto.  It's a high-end,
high-service sort of used-book store.  Then there's Know Knew Books
(326-9355) on California Avenue, the BookBuyers (322-1993) on Emerson, and
Chimera (327-1122) on University.  Actually, while I have the phone book out,
here's something called Abracadabra Booksearch International ("We Make Books
Appear!"), (800)545-2665.
From: c60a-le@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Chiachi (Lab Assistant))
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Airplane tix Oakland-LAX
Date: 12 Dec 92 09:12:55 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley

I am posting for a friend of mine who wants to sell her airplane ticket.
Do not reply to this account.  Call her directly.  Following is her message.
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

			   U R G E N T !!!
			   ---------------

		Southwest Airplane ticket round trip     

	      From Oakland to LAX:  December 15th 4:00pm
	      From LAX to Oakland:  January 19th 10:00am

			For only $69 dollars.
				Male ok.

		   Please call (510)643-1198  Ellen
From: iba@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Wayne Iba)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Sick of Kaiser Permanente
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:49:02 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division

chrish@netcom.com (Christina M. Hill) writes:

>BTW, my Kaiser facility is in Redwood City.

FYI: Kaiser, Redwood City is considered the best place to work by staff
*within* Kaiser.  That is, everyone wants to be transferred there.
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Sick of Kaiser Permanente
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:00:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.191226.10113@adobe.com> pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai) writes:

>You should remember that medicine is expensive. Some of the machines
>in her lab cost $100,000. Just imagine if Kaiser didn't try to control
>costs...

I'd guess that the cost of equipment is secondary at most to the expense
of medicine.  Well ahead of it would be:

o the AMA's ability to keep the number of legally-qualified physicians
  down in this country

o the prohibitive cost of malpractice insurance (which suggests that
  the aforementioned AMA behavior isn't meeting its stated goal of
  furnishing the highest quality service possible)

o the very expensive process of getting medicine through the approval
  cycle of the FDA

It's not the technology; it's the people...

-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: SCO?
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:54:51 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Dec10.190033.11669@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
>
|So, what's been happening at SCO since the article about sexual
|harrassment by the CEO appeared in the Mercury News on Saturday?

I haven't heard about this one but I once heard that one of the management
higher ups claimed that SCO was the horniest company in the industry.  
 
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| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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From: paul@taniwha.UUCP (Paul Campbell)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Rasputin's vs. Ameoba!!   and Hear
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:09:34 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Taniwha Systems Design

In article <8468@public.BTR.COM> jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com) writes:

>I like Rasputin's. I found Amoeba to be overpriced. I haven't been to 
>the new Rasputin's.

I for one miss the old crowded/dingy/funky/grungy old Rasputins.

Bonus question: are they crazy, building an almost all glass building on
Telegraph?

	Paul


-- 
Paul Campbell    UUCP: ..!mtxinu!taniwha!paul     AppleLink: CAMPBELL.P
Use up your Quayle jokes now while they're still good "Quayle for Pres. in '94"
     Q: Why is Marilyn Quayle like Marion Barry?
     A: They both suck a little dope.
From: jhoriga@cad052.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (John Horigan~)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Freezing bike locks (was Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car)
Date: 19 Dec 92 01:29:03 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Intel Corp.


In article <1992Dec17.214240.20418@ntmtv>, adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian Brandt) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec16.200733.28306@pony.Ingres.COM>, kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn) writes:
|> |> Another good way to clobber the Club, apparently used by some pros, is
|> |> to pour liquid nitrogen on the lock area; once cold-soaked, a smart
|> |> rap with a hammer shatters the sob.
|> 
|> Bullshit.  Prove it.  Do *you* *personally* know of any such case?
|> 
|> Bet you don't.  This was a subject of much discussion on bicycle groups
|> where folks like to pass on the story of how people use liquid nitrogen
|> to defeat Kryptonite-style bicycle locks.  People that "pass on" such
|> stories always get it from a friend of a friend, etc...  The consensus
|> seems to be that this is all urban legend type stuff.
|> 
|> -- 
|> 
|> Adrian Brandt (415) 940-2379
|> UUCP: ...!ames!ntmtv!adrian
|> ARPA: ntmtv!adrian@ames.arc.nasa.gov

-- 
It's not bullshit, I have personally broken a Kryptonite lock using
liquid nitrogen and a hammer (my friend's lock had rusted and his key
wouldn't work). It's very tricky because you have to soak the
lock for more than a minute for it to completely cool and embrittle.
The whole operation can be very awkward, I tried it for another friend 
and failed. I can't imagine anyone managing it with a Club.

PS  I no longer have access to LN2 so I can't break Krypto locks anymore.
PPS There are much easier ways to defeat a Krypto lock unless it's very
    well designed (call me a tease, but I don't want to post how).
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Intel, Santa Clara  (415)765-4773  M/S: RN4-38  jhoriga@scdt.intel.com
From: greg@thirdi.uucp (Greg Holmberg)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: What does [sic] mean?
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:59:29 GMT
Reply-To: greg@thirdi.UUCP (Greg Holmberg)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Third Eye Software, Menlo Park, CA

In article <ByF89v.4p9@well.sf.ca.us> cristina@well.sf.ca.us (Christina Paddock) writes:
    I see [sic] in a lot of posts here.  What is it?

From Webster's:

    3 sic adv [L, so, thus -- more at so](1887): intentionally so
    written - used after a printed word or passage to indicate that
    it is intended exactly as printed or to indicate that it
    exactly reproduces an original <said he seed [sic] it all>

In the future, I believe you can use a dictionary as well as I.
-- 
Greg Holmberg
greg@thirdeye.com or ...!{apple,pyramid,cdp}!thirdi!greg
Third Eye Software, Inc., 750 Menlo Avenue, Suite 300, Menlo Park, CA 94025
415/321-0967 Voice, 415/321-2066 Fax
From: pngai@adobe.com (Phil Ngai)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: Sick of Kaiser Permanente
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:12:26 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <1g8oitINN2fd@akasha.ossi.com> surfdog@ossi.com (John Onusko) writes:
>FYI, Kaiser Permanente is a non-profit organization. However, (this is just
>my guess) they must have some profit sharing for the employees or they
>wouldn't
>be so conservative with their resources. 

My wife is a test development scientist at Kaiser Regional Lab in
Berkeley and she does not get profit sharing.

You should remember that medicine is expensive. Some of the machines
in her lab cost $100,000. Just imagine if Kaiser didn't try to control
costs...

-- 
My opinions are my own.
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:51:34 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames

"rchao" == Robert Chao <rchao@well.sf.ca.us> writes:

rchao> I need to buy a CLUB locking device for my car. What's a good price
rchao> in the Berkeley/Oakland area, and where can I find it?
rchao> Thanks if you have any word.

FYI, I saw a "retired" car thief on 48 hours go through a "club" with
a hacksaw in under a minute.

Just thought you'd like to know.

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWMOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
                                "HotHead Rules!"
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao)
Subject: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:37:41 GMT


I need to buy a CLUB locking device for my car. What's a good price
in the Berkeley/Oakland area, and where can I find it?
Thanks if you have any word.
-- 
Robert Chao
Oakland, California
Newsgroups: ba.general
From: kudzu@netcom.com (Michael Sierchio)
Subject: Re: Sick of Kaiser Permanente
Organization: True Love, and Home-Grown Tomatoes
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:09:44 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.000035.17397@netcom.com> 
	mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:

>I'd guess that the cost of equipment is secondary at most to the expense
>of medicine.  Well ahead of it would be:
>
>o the AMA's ability to keep the number of legally-qualified physicians
>  down in this country

This is mythical.  In fact, the *surplus* of doctors in urban area contributes
to higher costs.  And the AMA has little influence in this regard -- they
had a practice in the 40's of trying to control accredited med schools, but
the popular myth about a conspiracy to keep the number of MDs low is hooey.

>o the prohibitive cost of malpractice insurance (which suggests that
>  the aforementioned AMA behavior isn't meeting its stated goal of
>  furnishing the highest quality service possible)

Many physicians agree -- but tort reform in general is needed, across the
board.  It is a ridiculous drag on the economy, the litigation lottery.

>o the very expensive process of getting medicine through the approval
>  cycle of the FDA

Well, there's a larger problem -- cf. Streptokinase v. tPA

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Newsgroups: ba.general
From: www@Ingres.COM (Bill White)
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
Distribution: ba
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:35:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.044223.11134@netcom.com> steven@netcom.com (Steven Nelson) writes:
>In article <BzBwIt.8tr@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
>>
>>I need to buy a CLUB locking device for my car. What's a good price
>>in the Berkeley/Oakland area, and where can I find it?
>>Thanks if you have any word.
>>-- 
>>Robert Chao
>>Oakland, California
>
>If you are talking about a club that locks the stearing wheel, a police
>office was on the 10 o'clock news describing the usefulness of such devices.
>According to this officer, car thiefs can easily disable the clubs by
>using a hacksaw and cutting out a section of the stearing wheel.  The
>time required: 3 - 5 minutes.
>
>steven@netcom.com

"48 Hours" last week focused on car theft.  As a demo, they set up a car with
every imaginable security gadget and invited 2 "retired" car thieves to "steal"
it.  They got the club off in something like 17 seconds.

What finally stopped them was a hidden ignition cut-off switch.  They knew it
must be there someplace, but they couldn't find it -- and the car wouldn't
start without it.

The bad news is, that in answer to the question, "What would you do now if this
had been a real theft attempt?", they said something to the effect that they'd
be so po'd that they'd just trash the whole car and walk away.

--Bill
From: steven@netcom.com (Steven Nelson)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:42:23 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <BzBwIt.8tr@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
>
>I need to buy a CLUB locking device for my car. What's a good price
>in the Berkeley/Oakland area, and where can I find it?
>Thanks if you have any word.
>-- 
>Robert Chao
>Oakland, California

If you are talking about a club that locks the stearing wheel, a police
office was on the 10 o'clock news describing the usefulness of such devices.
According to this officer, car thiefs can easily disable the clubs by
using a hacksaw and cutting out a section of the stearing wheel.  The
time required: 3 - 5 minutes.

steven@netcom.com
Xref: sparky ba.general:5287 ba.sports:671
From: suleman@netcom.com (Dani Suleman)
Newsgroups: ba.general,ba.sports
Subject: Squash courts anywhere ?
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:50:36 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Hi ! 
Anyone knows if there's any squash courts in the Bay Area ?

--dani
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: flourescent light bulbs, same size and shape as regular bulbs
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:37:01 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <wallich.724621323@pepper> wallich@ncd.com (Ken Wallich) writes:
>
>Well, they're not in the East Bay, but they are a big mail-order
>place.  Real Goods, headquartered in Ukia (there must be a letter

Ukiah.

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| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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From: christil@uts.amdahl.com (Christine Lee)
Newsgroups: ba.general
Subject: Re: where to buy a CLUB for my car
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:19:06 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Dec17.214240.20418@ntmtv>, adrian@ntmtv.UUCP (Adrian
Brandt) writes: 
> In article <1992Dec16.200733.28306@pony.Ingres.COM>,
kevinq@Ingres.COM (Kevin Quinn) writes: 
> |> Another good way to clobber the Club, apparently used by some pros, is
> |> to pour liquid nitrogen on the lock area; once cold-soaked, a smart
> |> rap with a hammer shatters the sob.

Forget the CLUB! Last week, a friend of mine who uses a "club"
security thing on his steering wheel, had his car stolen, taken for a
joyride and totalled.  How?  I used to think the club was a sure way
to keep your car from being stolen, but I was wrong.  The car thieves
merely sawed through the steering wheel, slipped off the club, and
took off.   The police say that this is a well-known method used by
car thieves for removing the "club" off steering wheels.  What a
useless security device!  (Even more useless than car alarms)


-- 

Christine Lee                           Amdahl Corp. 	
christil@long_island.uts.amdahl.com     Santa Clara, CA   

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