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From: neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:21:38 GMT
Distribution: dfw
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX


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>But I agree with you, it would be nice if people passed on the left.  I
>don't think its going to happen, though, until some sort of law is passed
>restricting slower drivers from the left lane.

There already is such a law, it's just not enforced very much, probably not
enforced at all around the metroplex. It's called 

		       ---------
		      | SLOWER |
                      | TRAFFIC|
	              |	KEEP   |
	              |	RIGHT  |
                       --------
                          ||
			  ||
			  ||
			  ||
			  ||
			  ||
			  ||
These signs are all over the place on just about all numbered highways.
If you don't believe that violating it isn't a moving violation, then
read "Vernon's Civil Statutes" under traffic regulations. (Vernon's is the
official publication of the civil laws of the State of Texas for those who
didn't know. You'll find one in the glove box of every police car in the
state and at public libraries).
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From: 6o25@sdf.lonestar.org (Stephen M. Jones)
Subject: TBA's Calendar of EVENts foR OCTOBER ->>>>
Organization: Super Dimension Fortress - Public Acess Unix - Dallas, Tx.. 
Distribution: dfw
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:56:41 GMT

TBA's Calendar oF Events for OCtober:

Saturday, OCtober 17th -  Across The StreeT Bar
			  Yale and Greenville
			  8:00 - 9:00pm

Thursday, October 22nd -  Across the STreeT bar
			  <time TBA>

Use our flyers and get in for $3....
look at bill's records, charleys guitar shop, zoo music
7-11's, street corners with homeless enteprenuers....

email me for more info.  or to be included or (To Be Appended) to the
TBA E-mailing list...!


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SysAdmin <-> Super Dimension Fortress PAU 
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From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Subject: Re: John Wiley Price
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:14:23 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

I agree. @#$%^!~!!!

Newsgroups: dfw.general
From: melliott@convex.com (Mark Elliott)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:46:08 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Oct13.053543.21148@netcom.com> harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp) writes:

>Lately it seems, many Dallasites have perfected what I call the
>swerve-merge technique.  Instead of using their turn signal, the
>person "fakes" a lane change that would permenantly attach them to
>your fender, had they completed it.  When you hit the brakes to avoid
>them, they switch lanes into the hole you so politely opened for them.
>Grr...

Hey thanks. That's a great idea. When they won't let you through after you 
have flashed your blinkers in that direction, just play kamikaze. B^)


--
	Mark Elliott	melliott@trojan.convex.com
        When you have secured an area, don't forget to tell the enemy.
                     Murphy's Laws of Combat

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From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Subject: Re: Tailgated in the slow lane
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 06:09:35 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

(T. Mike Howeth) writes:
>
>"Whoever said 'getting there is half the fun'                           \/
>    has never ridden in a class 8 probe!" - K'Ehleyr

 
I got your class 8 probe, right here buddy...    ;)

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From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 07:04:00 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX


You have a warped definition of "courtesy" if you think that tail-gating
is "courteous".   Or if you think that zipping from lane to lane creating
a road hazard is "courteous".  I would tell you what the operative word
really is here, but _that_ would be "discourteous" of me.

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From: jmd@sdf.lonestar.org (James Dumser)
Subject: where to find Waffle?
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Distribution: dfw
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:10:07 GMT

Does anyone know of a place locally that has Waffle?  None of the BBSs I
frequent have it, and I'm having no luck with ftp mail servers.

Jim
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From: jozef@bnr.ca (John Patoskie)
Subject: Backup Service Providers? 
Reply-To: jozef@bnr.ca (John Patoskie)
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:32:32 GMT


I need recommendations of companies who perform system backups for small 
to medium size companies.  Operating systems include MAC, DOS, & Unix.

I don't need backup software, but a company that will perform this function.

--
Regards,

John

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From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: dfw
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:47:04 GMT

neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:

>Now if everyone would only quit trying to run over motorcycles......

Ooohhh...  That reminds me of something I'd like to vent here...

When are the motorcycle riders who ride the stripe between lanes in
order to pass in heavy traffic going to get smart?  I have a theory
that this will never actually happen, but that sort of rider will
slowly disappear as they are killed the wrecks they cause...

This isn't a general knock on bikers.  Most are much more intelligent
than that, and given their vulnerable position they are often safer on
the roads than most drivers.
-- 
-----------------Greg-Harp----------------harp@netcom.com------------------
       "Wide mouths with narrow minds can't accept your difference.
     Open season on new ideas -- they call it bad influence." -- B52s
From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: John Wiley Price
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:14:43 GMT
Organization: is sometimes desirable

In article <1992Oct6.154409.1@sscvx1.ssc.gov>, htnguyen@sscvx1.ssc.gov writes:

> How long do we have to put up with this John Wiley Price crap!
> 
> 	Assaulted/Threatened with firearms on police by JWP- charge dropped
> 	Rape- charge dismissed
> 	Assault on construction workers- charge dismissed
> 	Destruction of private property(vehicle)- dismissed
> 	assault on reporters-no charge filed
> 	Assault on joggers-either dismissed or dropped
> 
> 	Do I miss anything here????
> 
> Latest incident: friend assaulted on police - no charge file....yet!
> 
> Imagine me, an ordinary, law abiding citizen try to raise a finger against
> the police or anyone out there.  
> Most probable result: 6 months to a year with max fine impose!
> 
> @#$%?& ......
> 	

Well, if you are a so-called "black leader", you can do almost anything.  Don't
worry, though.  JWP is determined to find out the hard way just how far he can
go.  Sooner or later, they'll have to put him in jail.  Unfortunately, they keep
encouraging him to keep doing worse things each time they let him off.

Now, of course, he is going to have competition.  Councilman Hicks wants to
get some of that publicity for himself.  For some unknown reason, many in the
black community seem to like such antics...  The "political wisdom" is that
the more stupid/obnoxious/illegal stuff that a politician does allegedly in
the name of the "cause", the more votes he gets.  That is why they do this
stuff.


                                                Jim Pritchett


UUCP:  rwsys.lonestar.org!caleb!jdp
 or    utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!caleb!jdp
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From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:08:05 GMT

shane@utdallas.edu (Shane Davis) writes:

>I think this should be
>expanded to include on-board data entry into one of those signs which
>scroll messages sideways.

I've thought of this too!  However, since a friend of mine got a
ticket for having "flashing lights on a non-official vehicle" I doubt
you could get away with it. (He had a Christmas wreath with flashing
LEDs on it hooked to his front grille.  I'm sure someone was going to
mistake his Chevette for an ambulance.)

>The strange thing is, people here don't use their horns (I do) when they are
>cut off or offended by someone's driving. I take the attitude of the
>Chicago/New York/Boston/etc. drivers and sit on the horn when cut off.

It is sort of strange that horns are rarely used around here.  

Here's a tip for the next time you have a run-in with someone driving
a vehicle with "radio operator" plates: Honk Morse code for "*sshole"
or "jerk." ;)
-- 
-----------------Greg-Harp----------------harp@netcom.com------------------
       "Wide mouths with narrow minds can't accept your difference.
     Open season on new ideas -- they call it bad influence." -- B52s
From: david@scilab.lonestar.org (david burgess)
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:51:14 GMT
Organization: Science Lab; Arlington, Texas

mcdonald@dallas.sil.org writes:

> Can anybody tell me why Dallas drivers seem to have an aversion to passing
> on the left?  I just don't understand why they would choose to pass on the
> right when the left lane is open.  If someone could enlighten me as to why
> I might not get so angry at them for violating such a basic highway
> courtesy.
> 
If somebody is hogging the far left(passing only lane) and the rest of 
the lanes or at least the lane to the right of our two cars are open. I
will pass on the right because he is hogging that lane and legally since
the highway is more than one lane it is legal to pass on the right.
Example is North 75(past 635) and 635 itself. If all the other lanes are 
full, you are in the far left lane, the car in front of you is blocking 
you you can always drive on the shoulder to the left of the left lane....
It gives the person you are passing a VERY good message that he is in the 
right lane. Yes, on 635 it is possible to do it.(Don't ask me how I
don't think you want to know how I know that) <grin>

			Don't Eat Yellow Snow

David Burgess
david@scilab.lonestar.org
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From: glennr@sdf.lonestar.org (Glenn Reinhardt)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:39:17 GMT

In article <BPc0RB3w165w@elecafe> pisser@elecafe (Pisser) writes:
>                                    In other States, you speed up to get 
>on a highway, and slow down to exit.  HERE, they slow down before they 
>get on the ramp (35 mph.!!) then, they don't speed up, but pull right out 
>into the lane when they are still going 35...  THEN they speed up...  
>I just don't understand... 

     People around here do seem to have a definite problem with the concept
of *merging* with traffic.  This problem is exacerbated by the fact that 
the civil engineers in this fair state apparently don't believe in providing
sufficiently long entrance ramps to man roads.  There are numerous on-ramps
in North Dallas that are situated in such a way that drivers cannot *see* 
the traffic coming towards them on the highway.  Accelerating up to 55+ mph
to merge smoothly with traffic is akin to playing Russian roulette if you can't
time your entrance with gaps in the flow of traffic.  The traffic cannot see 
you trying to enter either so those few courteous drivers you might find cannot
aide your merging my changing lanes or slowing down if necessary.

>                          then when they exit off of the highway, they 
>shoot all the way across the access road to the far right lane, not using 
>their blinker, but just Whipping in front of any car that happens to be 
>on the access road... 

In most cases, the access road has YIELD signs on *both* sides of the road
and as a driver who learned "to drive correctly" you should know that you
*are* required to stop if it is required to allow on-coming traffic the 
right of way.

>                          I say leave your cars where they are until the 
>police can get there and form an "unbiased" conclusion as to who was at 
>fault.  That way the inSURance companies can have something to go by.  
>The Texas way, the inSURance companies don't have to pay if the person at 
>fault changes their story.  

I was under the impression (but had never verified it) that you *were* supposed
to leave your car where it was after an accident unless it was obstructing
traffic.  What exactly is the law regarding this in Texas?

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=============================================================
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From: drice@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Keith Rice)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: University of North Texas
Distribution: tx
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:50:34 GMT

In <BvqGJJ.Dnp@cmptrc.lonestar.org> andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart) writes:

>  Well, I didn't really mean to start a "road-flame" thread.  I just got
>  back from a road trip last weekend, so this subject has been on my mind.
>  I was mentally compiling a list of road peeves...

>  1)  People who don't use their turn signals.
>  2)  People who speed up when you pass them and slow down when they're in
>      front.
>  3)  People who insist on driving in your blind spot.
>      
>      etc, etc., etc. ad infinitum...

4) People who don't turn their turn signal off after they change lanes.
5) People who don't dim their headlights when they're behind you.
6) People who don't dim their headlights when they're driving in the
   opposite direction.

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From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:49:53 GMT

pisser@elecafe (Pisser) writes:

>It's because Texans are just dumb.

This comes from a guy raised in New Jersey?  ;)

[Ranting about slow highway entrance speeds and entering cars moving
all the way to the left lane.]

I have personally seen this behavior in Maryland, Oklahoma, New
Mexico, Arizona, California, Nevada, and Utah (i.e. all of the other
states in which I have driven).  In fact, it's worse on the
interstates in the deserts of California, Arizona and Nevada, where
the average speed is about 75-80mph.

A perfect case for the policy of passing on the right. ;)

[Much ranting about highway exits.]

If you'll note, there are yield signs on _both_ sides of the frontage
road at an exit.  The law states that drivers in _all_ lanes must
yield to exiting traffic.  Switching over to the right lane and
proceeding normally is a good way to get a ticket, but that doesn't
stop most drivers.

As for solid white lines, that doesn't stop most folks anyway,
although the police often set up "white line patrols" to ticket people
for crossing them.

>Also... while I am venting...  In my home state of New Jersey, where we 
>learn to drive correctly (and learn to use adverbs), the insurance 

Ah yes, New Joisey -- the origin of perfectly clear and correct verbal
communication.  Polite, too. ;)

>(Pronounced -  in SHUR' ance -  not  IN' shurnce)

Yes?  And?  I've lived here all my life and I've always pronounced it
this way.  However, Webster's lists the latter pronunciation as
appropriate, too.

[Lots of ranting about the having to move all moveable vehicles after
an accident.]

This law probably stems from the fact that accidents breed more
accidents.  If you block a lane or two of a major highway, you're not
just screwing up traffic.  The tired and anxious drivers stuck in that
traffic tend to make mistakes.
-- 
-----------------Greg-Harp----------------harp@netcom.com------------------
       "Wide mouths with narrow minds can't accept your difference.
     Open season on new ideas -- they call it bad influence." -- B52s
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From: harp@netcom.com (Gregory O. Harp)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:31:51 GMT

cpc@cup.portal.com (Chris NMI Cebelenski) writes:

>When he started kicking
>my car I got out and he pulled a gun on me!!  Needless to say I got
>back in my car fast!  He fired two shots at my car, and I ran him over.
>Who was at fault here???  I guess time will tell (after the court
                                                             ^^^^^
>date).
 ^^^^

<Sigh> Yet another case to back my policy: If you _ever_ end up in a
situation where you are using deadly force (IMNSHO, only acceptable in
cases of self-defense or defense of others -- i.e. you were justified
in running the guy down if he was shooting at you) you had better kill
the intended victim.  Otherwise they _will_ sue you, no matter how
wrong they were, and unfortunately they occasionally may win through
some legal trickery.  Eager-beaver lawyers live for these cases.

I have a female friend who shot a man who forced his way into her
apartment (i.e. obvious malicious intent). He very nearly won a civil
case against her for his injury.  His lawyer made several cases: 1) he
was high and therefore not in control of himself, 2) he was unarmed
(though he was quite muscular and much larger than she), and 3) the
punishment for breaking and entering is not the death penalty (i.e.
she had no right to attempt to take his life -- this one even pissed
off the judge).  
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-----------------Greg-Harp----------------harp@netcom.com------------------
       "Wide mouths with narrow minds can't accept your difference.
     Open season on new ideas -- they call it bad influence." -- B52s
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From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:08:42 GMT
Distribution: dfw
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

(Neal Howard) writes:
>
>You can be ticketed for this in Texas too. That law is commonly printed on
>signs -> "SLOWER TRAFFIC KEEP RIGHT". In fact, if you are going 70mph in the
>left lane, matching the speed of a car(also going 70) in the right lane, and
>being stubborn about not passing then you can get two tickets -- one for
>speeding plus a second for not obeying "slower traffic keep right". This
>was told to me by a retired DPS trooper who was teaching a defensive driving
>course I took about a year ago. He even said he ticketed many drivers for
>that dual offense during the course of his career(mostly around the Waco 
>area on I-35).

Come down to my office and we'll call DPS and verify this one.  Sounds like
BS to me, Neal.  I would have just walked down and told you this, but since
you posted it I _had_ to respond.  We'll check this out and get back to you, 
DFW.

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From: mpp@sdf.lonestar.org (Michael Persons)
Subject: Re: John Wiley Price
Organization: Best lil' ol' Pubnix in Texas
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 20:34:03 GMT


Before you pass judgement on this county constable thing, read the October 8
Dallas Observer.  According to them, this Skinner guy is a loose cannon, 
playing John Wayne when he's supposed to be serving warrants.

Mike Persons
From: david@scilab.lonestar.org (david burgess)
Newsgroups: dfw.general
Subject: Re: Why do Dallas Drivers pass on the right?
Date: 11 Oct 92 09:36:33 GMT
Organization: Science Lab; Arlington, Texas

shane@utdallas.edu (Shane Davis) writes:

> (btw, I think pickups which aren't carrying cargo should be prohibited
> from driving in metro areas...I know most people have legitimate use for them
> but pickups obstruct other drivers' view and people who have a truck just
> for the sake of having a truck piss me off. I've already had a fender-bender
> because I couldn't see around one of these damn things. If you need a truck
> for business...that's fine. If you drive on just for the sake of driving one,
> stay out in BFE with it...especially if it's a dualie).
> 
 
You THINK trucks should be "PROHIBITED"?? What about the Bill of Rights??
Ever heard of those? Just because you don't like trucks and that you have 
had a accident "because you think" the truck was interferring with your 
driving????? What about "LIFE, LIBERTY and the PURSUIT of HAPPINESS???"

Why does people owning a truck (quote) "for the sake of having a truck" 
(unquote) piss you off???

Here's a idea, if you see a truck been driven somewhere, DON'T follow it, 
get near it, find another of getting there, pull off the street/highway
and wait till it is gone.
 

			Don't Eat Yellow Snow

David Burgess
david@scilab.lonestar.org
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