From: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Subject: Re: ERETZ YISRAEL (was Re: deportation)
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 21:03:02 GMT

In article <1i0gbhINN5nh@tyl.anu.edu.au> bdm@cs.anu.edu.au (Brendan McKay) writes:

# makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

# >In article <1huqvaINN3hq@tyl.anu.edu.au> bdm@cs.anu.edu.au (Brendan McKay) writes:
 
# ># I claim the first posting for 1993!
 
# >	Still 1992 where I live.
 
# I am not posting from where you live.
 
	Really?  I was about to invite you over for dinner.  At any rate,
it is now 1993 here.

# ># makowsky@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

# ># >In article <1hrfo6INNpa1@manuel.anu.edu.au> bdm@cs.anu.edu.au writes:
 
# ># >#   Birth places of residents of Jerusalem and Hebron districts in 1905.
# >#                     ^ Moslem

# ># >#                        Cities              Villages
# ># >#   district       Jerusalem  Hebron     Jerusalem  Hebron
 
# ># >#   same place        78.0     96.7        93.9     94.8
# ># >#   other Palestine   10.3      2.5         5.7      4.4 
# ># >#   not Palestine     11.7      0.8         0.4      0.8
 
# ># >#   [U. O. Schmelz, Population characteristics of Jerusalem and Hebron
# ># >#      districts according to the Ottoman census of 1905, in Ottoman
# ># >#      Palestine 1800-1914 (G. Gilbar, ed.), (Brill Leiden, 1990).]
 
# ># >As we now know due to the deabte over where Yassir Arafat was
# ># >born, what used to be registered as birth places was not where they
# ># >were born, but where the births were registered.  Someone born in say
# ># >Amman who had his birth registered in Jerusalem would be listed as
# ># >having been born in Jerusalem.  This is the center of the controversy
# ># >over where Arafat was born since it is how things were done.

# ># How could I have missed this explanation?  Tens of thousands of people 
# ># in 1905 (twelve years before the Balfour Declaration) conspired to 
# ># register their births in the wrong place.  As proof of this there is 
# ># a controversy over the birth place of someone born twelve years 
# ># AFTER the Balfour Declaration.  The Ottoman registration system had 
# ># been replaced by the British system in the meantime, but, hell, Arabs
# ># will be Arabs.  I wish I was as clever as you, David.
 
	I forgot to comment that no conspiracy was necessary.  Thank you
for creating a non existent factoid, claiming I raised it, and than
shooting it down.

# >	A nice, typical. ad hominem attack which shows nothing.  Births
# >were registered similarly.  
 
# How would you know?  Your comments clearly indicate that you have
# no knowledge of the subject.  

	Whatever you say Brendan.

# >                            As it  births were registered when
# >convennient, and not every place had somewhere to register births all
# >the time.  In some cases, they were not registered at all so
# >assumptions (or whatever you want to call it) were made.

# You are just making this up, as will be immediately apparent to
# every reader here.  Shall I suggest some references on the Ottoman
# registration system?  Oh, I forgot: you must have seen several
# such references when you consulted the Schmeltz paper (in order
# to avoid making a fool of yourself).  You did consult it, didn't
# you, David?

	I do not have any knowledge of the Schmetlz paper outside of what
appears on this thread.  Not that this matters.  I am not making
anything up  and what I wrote has to do with human behavior not a
system.  Now, if the Scmeltz paper claims that when no one was around
during a birth in some tent, building, or possibly even a clinic to
register the birth than the birth was registered with mental telepathy,
please show it.  Otherwise you have no idea about what you are talking about.
--
	There are three types of people in the world.  Those that are good
at math and those that are not.

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