From: masak@asl.slb.com
Newsgroups: rec.aviation.soaring
Subject: Re: The Soaring List lives again!
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:49:57 GMT
Reply-To: masak@asl.slb.com
Organization: Schlumberger/Anadrill Sugar Land, TX

Peter C. Masak, MASAK@ASL.SINET.SLb.COM,P,SoaringClubHouston,
20 sailplanes,inc.N3,Ventus,ASW20/24.LS6,1200 hrs,Goldw2Diamonds

In article <1992Dec29.201250.2838@eplrx7.es.duPont.com>, milbouma@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Mark Milbourne SCD) writes:
>
>Several months ago (before rec.aviation split into subgroups), a glider pilot
>asked "How many of us are there".  I offered to compile a list to get a feel 
>for the number and also saw it as an opportunity to gather information that 
>would be useful to us net.glider.pilots for purposes given below.
>
>I compiled the list to a count of 90.  The last update was in early September.
>I've been busier since then, but the holiday lull at work has given me the
>opportunity to bring the list up to date since I have received a few more
>responses and corrections.  If I counted correctly, the total now stands at 97.
>I'm sure this new posting will bring a few more out of the woodwork and push
>the total over 100.
>
>I have removed one entry from a hang glider pilot.  Now that we have our own 
>soaring newsgroup, the HG types are welcome to make their own list.  I'm not
>against hang gliding (I've tried it and hope to do more!) but my primary
>interest is with sailplanes.  There were only one or two HG responses anyway.
>
>As before, please check your entry to make sure all your info is included and
>correct.  I may have abbreviated or modified things slightly to be consistent
>or to make the line wrap at a convenient place.  Don't hesitate to send
>corrections, revisions or additions.  If I somehow omitted your submission, my
>profuse apologies - please send it again and I'll be sure to add it.
>
>Restating the purposes of the list - for the benefit of anyone who missed the
>original postings - 
>To assist soaring rec.aviatiors:
>1) Possibly visit/fly with each other.
>2) Correspond about flying, buying, and maintaining specific types.
>3) Help the rec.aviation soaring folk get an idea of how many of us there are.
>4) Generally get a better sense of "community" which will help us whether we 
>   get split off into rec.aviation.soaring or not.
>
>Several people were apparently under the impression that this was a mailing
>list - like the one that exists for hang-gliding.  IT IS NOT!  It is just for
>the purposes mentioned above.
>
>Send additions and corrections to me.
>
>Happy Thermaling!
>
>    Mark Milbourne
>    milbouma@esvax.dnet.dupont.com
>----------------- rec.aviators who soar ----------------------------------
>KEY to list:
>Summary -
>  Name;email;rating;organization & location;sailplanes flown;hours;badges
>
>Elaboration-
>  Real Name;
>  e-mail address;
>  Rating(glider rating, not power);
>    S-Student, P-Private, C-Commercial, I-Instructor, T-tow pilot
>    UK Ratings:
>      AEI - Air Experience Instructor, AI - Assistant Instructor,
>      FCI - Full Cat. Instructor, RMGI - Restricted Motor Glider Instructor
>    NA - Glider rating not applicable in country flown
>
>  Location you normally fly;
>    name of club and/or airfield-FBO, city,state and/or country
>    Use following abbrevs in club names if you need to conserve space:
>        GC-Glider Club, SC-Soaring Club, SA-Soaring Association.
>        SS-Soaring Society, FC-Flying Club, GP-Glider Port
>  Sailplanes you own(ed) or have flown;
>    Concerning specific types - some people have just put Grob or Blanik.  I
>    suggest using G103, G102, L-13, L-23 etc to be more specific.
>  Hours in sailplanes;
>  FAI or other badges
>
>Aland Adams;aland@fc.hp.com;C,I(exp);Colorado SA;
>    1-26,1-34,1-35,2-32,2-33,Blanik L-13,G102,G103,M-100,Pilatus,Twin Lark,
>    Caproni,Std Cirrus,PIK-20B,PIK-20D,PIK-20E,ASW-20,LS 6-b(Currently owned);
>    1500;Silver,Gold-w/3Diamonds
>Hans Ahllund;HAHLLUND@finabo.abo.fi;I+T;Vaasa, Finland & Menkij{rvi Finland;
>    TwinAstir,G103II,G103IIICAcro,ASK21,Puchacz,AstirJeans,G102IIIb,ASK-23,
>    Ka-6Cr,PIK-5c,PegaseA,DG-300,PIK-20D,DG-600M,ASW-19B,G109A,G109B;
>    500;Silver,Gold,Diamond goal
>Del Armstrong;dela@ee.rochester.edu;P;Dansville, NY;
>    2-33, 1-26, Blanik, 1-34
>Rob Ballantyne;ballanty@cs.sfu.ca;P;Vancouver SA, Hope BC Canada;
>    Blanik,G102,G103(Acro)
>tony bible;bible@iastate.edu;P;AMW, Ames IA;
>    L-13,2-22,2-33,1-26
>Moshe Braner;braner@theory.TC.CORNELL.EDU;P;Sugarbush, Warren VT;
>    2-33,1-26,working on solo ASK-21
>Mike Brooks;brooks@imsl.com;P;Houston Soaring Association,Houston TX;
>    Pilatus B4, Blanik L-13, IS28 Twin Lark
>Geoff Brown;G.B.D.Brown@bnr.co.uk;AEI;Cambridge GC, UK;K7, K13, K21,
>    BLANIK (new and old), JANUS_C, K8A, K6CR, own K6E, ASTIR, DISCUS,JUNIOR,
>    SLINGSBY T21, PUCHACZ;300;Silver-C,2/3 Gold-C,1 Diamond;
>Taber Bucknell;taberb@newbridge.com;I;Gatineau GC, Pendleton, Ontario, Canada;
>    Jantar std. 2,K-13,Astir CS,Hornet,Mosquito,2-22,2-33,+
>Marcel Burlet;marcel@cup.hp.com;P;Crazy Creek, Middletown CA;
>    G103A,DG101,1-34,2-33,L-13
>Steve Bussolari;stevebu@atc.ll.mit.edu;CIT;MITSA, Sterling MA;
>    WA-22,23,B-901,M-21,M-22,2-32,2-33,1-26,1-34,1-35,1-36,G102,G103,LS-1f,L-13,
>    Fauconnet,K-13,ASK21,Caproni,Libelle,MG-23sl,Janus,Phoebus-C,Pilatus B4,G109
>Mike Cohler;mdc1@VAXA.YORK.AC.UK;P+AEI+T;York G.C. - UK;
>    (Own)Skylark4,K13,K7,K21,(Own) Swallow, K6CR,Astir,Skylark2,25 glider types
>    + Pawnee 'C', PA28, Falke; Total Flying 450 hours; FAI Silver
>Michael Corvin;zwork@starfighter.den.mmc.com;P;Denver CO;
>    2-22,2-33,K7,K8,1-26
>John Crawford;jcrawfor@oracle.com;P;St. Louis Soaring, Highland IL;
>    2-33,1-26,1-34,K13,L23,G102,G103
>George Devlin;ged@research.nj.nec.com;P:Central Jersey SC, Solberg Arpt NJ;
>    2-22,2-33,1-23,1-26,L13;200hrs;none
>Tom Dickinson;dickinso@bnl.gov;I+T;Long Island SA, NY;
>    1-26,2-32,2-33,1-35,l-L1
>Jer/ Eberhard;jle@fc.hp.com;CIT;Colo SA, Owl Canyon GP-4CO2, Wellington, CO;
>    1-26,2-32,2-33,1-34,G102,G103(Twin Astir,Club,Acro),G109A,G109B,
>    Blanik L-13,Janus,Bushwacker Mower for runways;150;FAA Wings 5;
>    Tow:  180hp Stinson 108-1, 150&180hp SuperCub, 180hp Scout;
>Guenther Eichhorn;gei@cfa.harvard.edu;C+T;MIT SA, Sterling MA;
>    L-23,1-26,1-34;45;A,B
>Lars-Henrik Eriksson;lhe@sics.se;PT;Uppsala FC, Sundbro, Sweden;
>    Bergfalke, Discus, Twin Astir, K8b;50;none
>Jerry Farrell;Jerry.Farrell@eng.sun.com;s;
>    Crazy Creek (Middletown) & Lagoon Valley (Vacaville) CA;ASK-21,Grob 103A
>Mike Fontenot;mlf@druwy.att.com;CT;Boulder CO;
>    PIK-20B
>Kevin Ford; ford@symcom.math.uiuc.edu; Illini GC, Monticello IL;
>    1-26,2-33,Grob Astir CS; 180; Silver, 2/3 Gold
>Bill Ganoe;bill@sie.arizona.edu;S;Tucson SC, El Tiro AZ ;
>    2-33
>Jim Garrison;jcg8w@virginia.edu;C;Waynesboro VA;
>    2-33,ASK-21,G103,1-26,1-23,1-36,1-34,L-13,Pegasus,Lark 2-place,own ASW-19B
>Ron Gaynier;gaynier@s1.elec.uq.oz.au;I; Jondaryan, Qld. Australia;
>    LS7(XOW),Ka7,G103,Hornet,Blanik
>Eric Geiselman;egeiselman@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil;P;Caesar Creek SC,
>    Waynesville OH;S2-22,S2-33;S1-26;G103;150TT.
>John Gersh;gersh@aplpy.jhuapl.edu;C;Woodbine, MD;
>    2-33,1-26,G-103,G-102
>Randy Gobbel;gobbel@cogsci.ucsd.edu;P;Warner Springs, CA;
>    Mosquito N53Z,2-33,1-26,2-32,1-34,G102,G103,ASK-21,B4,Club Libelle,
>    Ventus,ASW-19,Pegasus,Mini-Nimbus,Janus,Janus-C,Taifun,Blanik
>Victor Grubbs;victor@marie.stat.uga.edu;P;Mid-GA Soaring Assn, Monroe GA;
>    20+ types, H-301 Libelle, club has 1-34,G103,Blanik;1200+
>Gary Hade;garyh@SLC.com;P;WillametteValleySoarClub,Portland OR;
>    2-33,1-26,G103
>Dave Hagood;hagood@sabre.den.mmc.com;S;Black Forest CO;
>    2-33,1-26,lawn mowing-tractor
>Don Hammer;donovanh@orca.wv.tek.com;I+T;NorthPlains OR;
>    SZD-51-1, SGS 1-26/2-32/2-33, Blanik, Lark
>Lewis Hartswick lharts@xenon.unm.edu, P, Albuq. NM (not current)
>    2-33, 1-26, G-102,
>Ian Henderson;sgccifh@citecuc.citec.oz.au;p;Darling Downs SC, Qld Australia;
>    K7,G103
>Robert Herndon;rh@craycos.com;S;High Flights Soaring, Meadowlake CO;
>    2-33
>Allan N. Hessenflow;allanh@netcom.com;P;?;
>    2-33,1-26,G 103,G 102,ASK-21,SZD-51-1
>Michael Hog;hog@bean.isd.uni-stuttgart.de;P;Sportfliegerclub Tuttlingen,
>    Klippeneck, Germany;Bergfalke IV,ASK-13,Astir CS,G-103,Mistral-C,
>    Standard-Cirrus,LS-3-17(own),LS-4,LS-7,Discus,Salto,H-36 Dimona;750hours
>Bruce Hoult;Bruce@hoult.actrix.gen.nz;S;Paraparaumu, New Zealand;
>    Blanik L-13
>David Howard;david.howard@sun.com;private;Lagoon Valley Soaring, Vacaville CA;
>    2-33,1-26,ASK21,Grob-103
>Thomas Johnson;tjohnson@pdx.mentorg.com;?;North Plains OR;
>    ASW19,2-33,1-26,+
>Mark Kampe;markk@West.Sun.COM;S;Cal City, CA;
>    L13, 2-33, 1-26; 40
>David Kinsell;kinsell@fc.hp.com;P;Colorado SA,Wellington CO;
>    KA-6CR,2-32,1-34,L-13,G103,LP49;280;FAI gold+diamond goal
>Jeff Kleinwaks;kleinwaks@link.com;C;TCSS,Endicott NY;
>    2-33,1-26,1-34,Std Cirrus
>Jeff Knell;jeffk@dosXX.med.utah.edu;P;Salt Lake City UT;
>    2-33,1-26
>Josh Koslov;josh@sol.asl.hitachi.com;P;SS of PrincetonUniv,VanSant,Erwinna PA;
>    1-26,2-22,2-33
>Rick Lafford;lafford@serum.kodak.com;I+T;Dansville, NY;
>    Discus
>Richard Larsen;no email;private;Carolina Soaring, Louisberg N.C.;
>    2-33,1-26,1-34,2-32,l-13,g-103,szd-51,krosno kr03;160;no badges
>Sylvain Louboutin;sloubtin@dsg.cs.tcd.ie;Dublin GC, Ire & Ulster GC, N.Ire;NA;
>    ASK-18,Ka-8,Ka-6,ASK-13,Ka-7;200;Silver-C
>Craig Maiman;craigm@sequoia.com;S;Salem,NH;
>    2-33
>Marc Majka;majka@next.com;P;High Country Soaring, Minden NV;
>    G102,G103
>Jon Marthins;jon@dikas.no;I;Tonsberg/Sandefjord GC Norway;
>    LS-1,LS-3,LS-4,Twin Astir,Astir CS77,K-7,K-8,K-13,K-21,Blanik,IS28M2,
>    Mistral-C,Bergfalke II/III/IV,Motorfalke;600;Silver-C,Goal&Dist. diamond
>David Martin;David_Martin@kcbbs.gen.nz;S;Glenfield, Auckland, New Zealand;
>    L-13, Rhonlerche, Falke;6.5
>Steve Mc Robert;dinsdale@berlioz.nsc.com;P+T;byron&truckee CA;
>    dg300(gj),g103,pilatus b-4,blanik
>Guy Middleton;gamiddleton@math.uwaterloo.ca;S;Guelph G&SA,Elmira,Ont. Canada;
>    2-33, 1-26, Lark;50
>Mark Milbourne;milbouma@esvax.dnet.dupont.com;P;Brandywine SA
>    New Garden N57, Toughkenamon PA; 2-33,1-26,G103,KR-03A;45hrs;none
>Judah Milgram;milgram@eng.umd.edu;C+T;;
>    K-6,7,8,13,21,Astir,IS28,B4,+
>Rich Miller;rmiller@i88.isc.com;P;Chicago GC, Channahon, IL;1-26,2-32,2-33,
>    1-34,1-35,Blanik,Twin Lark,Astir CS,Twin Astir,LS-4,Discus, Mini-Nimbus
>Colin Millerchip;colin@cs.uq.oz.au;S;DDSC, Jondaryan, QLD, Australia;
>    K7
>Phil Mlsna;phil@eagle.ece.arizona.edu;I;El Tiro,Tucson,AZ;
>    PIK20D,Janus,Twin Grob,2-33,1-26,2-32,+
>Perry Morrison (Dr);swkmorri@nuscc.nus.sg;?;?;
>    ?;?;?
>Charles Mueller;cmueller@oavax.cuschico.edu;P,T;ChicoSA;MontagueCA,ParowanUT;
>    OpenCirrus,Jantar2A,Grobs,Blanik,Schweizers;550hrs;Cbadge.
>Eric Niedrauer;ericn@corp.sgi.com;P;Truckee CA;
>    PIK20D
>Ian O'Brien;ian@anasazi.com;S;Phoenix, AZ;
>    2-33;10+
>Geoff Peck;geoff@peck.com;C;High Country/Soar Minden/Minden NV + Truckee CA;
>    DG300,G102,G103,1-26,2-33,MiniNimbus,StdCirrus;FAI gold + diamond goal
>Steve Peltz;tricorn@uiuc.edu;I;Illini GC, Monticello IL;
>    2-33,1-26,Grob
>Mike Peters;mike.peters@DaytonOH.NCR.COM;P;Caesar Creek,OH;
>    Speed Astir,1-35,1-36,Blanik,103,2-33,1-26
>Howard Petri;petri@venus.iucf.indiana.edu;P;Wabash Valley SA, Lawrenceville,IL;
>    Pegasus (own),ASK-13,K8,Ka-6e,Std Cirrus,Blanik,1-26,1-36,Grob-103,ASW-19;
>    300 hrs;FAI Silver
>Mike Pilla;pilla@mrspock.att.com;I+T;Readington NJ;
>    2-33,1-23,1-26,L13,G102,G103+
>Philip Plane;P.J.Plane@massey.ac.nz;S; Feilding NZ;
>    Blanik,T31,Bocian,Rhonlerche
>Thomas Pressley;pressley@girch1.med.uth.tmc.edu;P;Soaring Club of Houston TX
>    1-34,G103
>Marc Ramsey;marc@autodesk.com;P;Northern CA (various);
>    ASK 21,G103,DG 101,DG 300,Pegasus
>Paul Raveling;raveling@unify.com;P;Soar Minden, Minden NV;
>    1-26,1-34,1-35,Club Libelle,Pilatus B4,2-22,2-32,2-33,Blanik L-13,
>    G102,G103,ASK-21
>Alasdair Rawsthorne;alasdair@cs.man.ac.uk;P;Lyon/France & Coventry GC/England;
>    G103, ASK21, G102, Bocian (!), Puchacz, Ka-8, Libelle; 70; Bronze
>B. Douglas Reeves;dreeves@ese3.ese.ogi.edu;none;Wilamette Valley Soaring Club;
>    none (still saving to get rating in ~4 months)
>Paul Richards;richards@rmtc.central.sun.com;C;Black Forest, CO;
>    2-33, 1-26, 1-34, 1-35, G103(acro)
>Joe Robison;joero@microsoft.com;P;Ephrata&Arlington,WA;
>    StdCirrus,+
>Mark Rogers;rogersmf@eplrx7.es.dupont.com;S;Brandywine SA,
>    New Garden, Toughkenamon PA;2-33,1-26,G103
>Dave Rolley;drolley@copper.colorado.edu;C;Black Forest, CO;
>    Concept 70,2-33,1-34
>Rex Root;rex@eng.umd.edu;P;Woodbine,MD;
>    2-33,1-26,G103,vintage Slingsby
>John Schiermeier;j_schiermeier@macsch.com;S;temp. inactive;
>    2-33,1-26
>Ian Spence;spence@psych.toronto.edu;I;SOSA, Ontario;
>    30+ types;1100hrs
>Michael Steckner;steckner@lri.uwo.ca;I;LSS London ONT Canada;2-33,1-26,1-23,
>    1-35,1-34,L-13,LK-10,Ka6cr,ASW-15,LS-4,G102,G103;500hrs;Slvr,Gld,Dmnd Goal
>Michael Steiner;msteiner@inf.ethz.ch;P;SGZ, Dittingen, Switzerland;
>    LS4,DG500,+
>Charlie Stone;cstone@ncc.telecomwa.oz.au;I;NarroginGC, Perth, W. Aus.;inactive,
>    L-13,ES57 Kingfisher,ES52 Kookaburra,ES60 Boomerang,Ka6,Std Cirrus,Slingsby
>    Dart,Phoebus C,Vasama,Pilatus B4,LibelleH201b,LibelleH205,BG12a,Ka2b,ASW15,
>    ASW20,Astir CS,Astir twin;~430 hrs;Gold C & 2 Diamonds (distance & goal);
>Kaye Stott;kaye@uniwa.uwa.edu.au;P;Beverley, W. Australia;
>    Blanik, Puchacz
>Chris Sullivan;sullivanc.sbd-e@rx.xerox.com;AI+P+T;Cambridge GC,UK;
>    ASW19,ASW20,PIK20-D,Discus,Vega,Libelle,Astir,Kestrel 19, K6,K7,K8,K13,K21,
>    T21,Janus,Puchacz,Junior,+;500;Gold+Diamond Goal
>Ray Swartz;rls@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu;Illini GC, Montecello IL;
>    2-33,1-26,Astir CS
>Darrell Tinker;darrellt@ross.com;P;FLF, Briggs TX;
>    Lark,G102,G103,2-33,1-26
>Peter Temple;prt@aeg.dsto.gov.au;I;Adelaide Uni;
>    15 types - own ES60 Boomerang
>Charles S. Thaeler, III;charlie@rad.com;P;none :-(;
>    2-33,1-26,Lark,Blanik
>Mark R. Tuttle;tuttle@crl.dec.com;S;MIT Soaring Association, Sterling, MA, USA;
>    2-33,1-26,L-23;20?;none
>Mike Vore;mvore@fedix.fie.com;P;MASA - Fairfield,Pa;
>    Ka8(MU),B-4(K9),Schweitzer x-xx,AsK-13
>Tony Verhulst;verhulst@aosg.gsf.dec.com;C;New England Gliderport, Salem NH
>    1-34,2-33,L-23
>Jim Wang; jim@esosun.css.gov;C;Warner Springs, CA (FBO);
>    Blanik,1-26,2-33,B-4 Pilatus,1-34,1-34R,2-32,G103,ASK-21,Astir CS,G102,
>    Pegasus,ASW-20A,LS-3,own LS-3a N33ED;1070hrs;Silver,Diamond Goal & Distance
>Luke Whitaker;llw31@sm.ic.ac.uk;P;Essex GC, England;
>    K6BR, K8, K13
>Sid Wood;sid.wood@waterloo.NCR.COM;I;ex-SOSA,ONT,CAN; Rhonlerche,Bergefalke II,
>    Ka-7,2-33,1-26,G102,G103,ASK-21,L-13,Blanik,ASW20,PIK20D,CherokeeII;~375hrs
>Janet Wright;WRIGHT_J@DICKINSON.EDU;IT;Silent Wings FC, Wellsville PA;
>    L-13,1-26