From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Newsgroups: alt.atheism
Subject: Re: To All Truth Seekers!
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:38:45 GMT
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <1992Oct9.150735.23962@cs.tulane.edu> goff@pops.navo.navy.mil writes:
>
>A Quote from Alt.Athesim Frequently Asked Questions:
>
>     "Most atheists put truth first.  If searching for truth causes you to
>      become uncomfortable, that's too bad."
>
>
>I assume that this implies that they evaluate objectively both sides
>of a topic. If this be the case, then if they are correct, then there
>must be a sound, reasonable explanation as to who Jesus Christ was.
>
>If there are any other theories the atheist community can offer, please
>post them! 
>
>JESUS WAS A MYTH-
>   Question: The bible, as a history book, is astonishingly correct when
>	     used to understand archeological remains and ancient writings.
>	     All we have to validate the existance of any person who has
>	     died and all those who knew him personally have died is
>	     a written record of his life and times or pictures. If
>	     the bible is not a reliable account then how do we know
>	     that long dead people, for example, Alexander the Great 
>	     really lived and was not just a made up myth? 


There are multiple sources confirming the existence of some historical 
figures. For instance, Prince Vlad of Walachia (Vlad the Impaler, Dracul)
was feared and written about/ described by people in surrounding countries
(notably Turkey and Russia) in several languages. Thus there is more than
a single source of information, and they agree on many specifics. We have
physical evidence for the existence of the Pharoahs of Egypt, as well as
surviving writings. What evidence besides the christian bible supports 
the stories of Jesus? Did the Romans leave references to this man who 
was supposedly a powerful and influential man in their kingdom? Few, if
any, things in a scientific endeavor are accepted due to a single unsupported
piece of suspect evidence.


>
>Assuming Jesus is not a myth, that he really lived:
>
>BIBLE ACCOUNT IS INCORRECT:
>   Question: If the account is incorrect, then many people have participated
>	     in the writing of a story that certainly would have required
>             very wicked hearts to produce. This devious plan would have
>             had to perpetrate a course of at least 8 centuries and I
>             suggest this because of the book of Isaiah where the
>             prophesies of Christ's birth circumstances, purpose and
>             so forth are so clearly described. All told, around 250
>             detailed prophecies were fulfilled by Jesus. For this
>             to be true, this is a scam of enormous proportions and
>             where is the explanation of how such a scam could be
>             carried out?
>

Quite self serving, IMO, for the priesthood to rewrite and perpetuate the
tales that put and kept them in positions of luxury and power, with the 
ability to terminate anyone who dared disagree.

Just more of the same old tired christian pseudo-logic. Kind of wish I hadn't
wasted this much time on it, but since I did, may as well send it.

Jeff Achenbach