From: eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf)
Subject: Re: Arab Jews are ARABS
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:16:25 GMT

kshammou@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Khaled J Shammout) writes:

>In Article: 52147 of talk.politics.mideast,   (Alan H. Stein) writes:

>>In a previous article, kshammou@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Khaled J Shammout)
>>says:

>>>     It seems that you are acustomed to the Israeli law that discriminates
>>>among Jewish citizens and non-Jewish citizens.

>>It seems to be that you are ignorant of Israeli law, which does not
>>discriminate between Jewish and non-Jewish citizens.

>     Well Mr. Stein, it is either you are really ignorant of Israeli law
>which discriminates among Jewish and non-Jewish citizens (but yet try to
>argue and defend it), or you are familiar with Isareli law but try
>to hide the truth.

>     First of all, you know that there are many privileges tied with the
>military service in which only Jews serve, (in addition to the minorty group
>the Druze).  Therefore, the Arabs do not have the chance of getting many
>priviliges and services which require, as one of its conditions, the
>completion of military service.  Thus Arabs do not get many of those Housing
>loans, education scholarships, social security, tax breaks, etc...  And even
>those Druze who serve, usually end up in almost the same diprivation of such
>priviliges because they are considered minorty group, despite their military
>service.

You call this racism?  Jews are forced to give up 3 or more years of their
lives, put off an education, and put off work, marriage, etc to serve their
country.  Arabs do none of this.  It seems only logical that those who give
up their time and risk their lives to defend their country be entitled to 
special benefits.

>     Also, there are certain areas in Israel where non-Jews are not allowed,
>BY LAW, to live there.  Such as the village of CARMIEL, where non-Jews are not
>allowed to live there nor are they allowed TO OWN A BUSINESS (this is the so
>called Israeli DEMOCRACY !!!!).  Not only that, now that village have
>incorporated the land of three neighboring ARAB villages (in an effort to make
>the entire area PURE JEWISH) and are forcing the Arab inhabitants out of their
>villages.  One of these Arab villages is called Rumayya and their case is still
>hanging in the Israeli supreme court (I think it is called the Supreme court).

Can you provide a source for this?  And what about the West Bank, Gaza, and Golan where Arabs build freely and the rights of Jews to build and to live are
restricted?

>     And what about the Kiputzim,  in which Arabs were not allowed, by law, to
>becaome members.  But then when the government noticed that many kiputzim were
>employing Arabs, as cheap labor, it (the ISRAELI GOVERNMENT) passed a law which
>prohibits even employing Arabs.  And you talk about the so called Israeli
>Democracy.
>     And finally, what about all those special rights and priviliges that are
>offered ONLY to the new comers to Israel.  And guess who the new comers are???
>Jews, of course.

Maybe you forget that Israel is a Jewish State.  It is here for the benefit
and security of Jews.  Perhaps if Jews had been treated better in other parts
of the world including the Arab countries then such a thing would not have
been necessary.

>     So Mr. Stein, stop covering the organized and legalized racism in Israel, 
>and try to more objective.

The racism of Israel as opposed to the sterling democracy and tolerance of
Arab countries like Saudi Arabia where even members of the U.S. Congress are
denied entrance because they are Jews.  That's not racism.  You talk about
being objective - what a joke.

>Wa Salam
>______________________
>Khaled Shammout

Ed Shnekendorf.

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