From: David.Rice@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: talk.origins
Subject: THC (Ted Holden Claims)
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Aug 21 1992
Date: 15 Sep 92  10:55:58

Tag: Phillip M. Hallam-Baker (hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phillip M.
Hallam-Baker))
 
> In article <2848@fedfil.UUCP>, news@fedfil.UUCP (news)
> [the elephant man] writes:
PMH-B>TH> "Finally, the story of the tower itself might actually
PMH-B>TH> be true. The speculation goes, that after the flood,
PMH-B>TH> men sought to attain to Saturn itself via the tower,
PMH-B>TH> or sought to do something of a scientific nature to
PMH-B>TH> prevent another flood, and in so doing, assuming they
PMH-B>TH> built the thing right under the sub-Saturnian point,
PMH-B>TH> the north pole, constructed history's greatest lightning
PMH-B>TH> rod, and called down yet one more gigantic catastrophy
PMH-B>TH> (in the nature of one final unbelievable electrical
PMH-B>TH> discharge) upon themselves, that the former speech
PMH-B>TH> ended at this point, and that this event might actually
PMH-B>TH> be what finally threw us totally out of Saturn
PMH-B>TH> orbit, or might have closely preceeded that event in
PMH-B>TH> time.
 
PMH-B> "[stuff] 1) The earth would have shattered had such a
PMH-B> momentous event happened that it was knocked out of it's
PMH-B> orbit. 2) Even if it had not shattered, it would have
PMH-B> turned itself inside out with volcanic activity in the
PMH-B> same way that Io does today under much lesser forces.
PMH-B> 3) The chances of keeping the atmosphere would be
PMH-B> practicaly nil. 4) The flora and fauna would not survive
PMH-B> the change. Putting a few percent of CO2 is enough to
PMH-B> screw the atmosphere pretty baddly, let alone going for
PMH-B> interplanetary coffee mornings. 5) bwwaaaaahhaaaaahhaaaa
PMH-B> haaaaa! Phill"
 
Mr. Holden is just demonstrating the Reduced Felt Effect of
Intelligence (tm).
 
Ted has received at least 300 messages in the last 9 months
that correct his errors, most notably the excellent work done
by Merrit, and there has been five times that number of messages
by other participants discussing the Ted Issue. Does Ted even bat
an eye, or pause to reconsider? No--- he resubmits his articles
virtually unchanged.
 
While Ted-baiting may be ammusing (or elephant-bating, as the
case may be. . . . I guess one would use peanuts as bait, or
perhaps a National Geographic Institute's jeep), some small
part of the responsibility rests on his masters (his cult),
and some rests upon the Reduced Felt Effect of Education in
North America (which, unlike Ted's Reduced Felt Effect of
Gravity, is measured and demonstrated). It may even be possible
that Ted believes his assertions (shudder!).
 
If the entire scientific community were to scoff at my idea
that Luna is made of Swiss cheese, I would damn well rethink
that position, or produce evidence of my assertion. Ted
refuses to do either.
 
Consider one THC (Ted Holden Claim): Earth stopped revolving
around its' polar axis for "one day." (Just how the hell one
can thus time "one day" when a day is determined by Earth's
360' rotation, we are not told.) Where did that massive (and
that is =MASSIVE=) amount of inertia go? I suspect the
mountains would have sheered off their bases and leaped into
space, taking the atmosphere with it.
 
Another THC: Terra was torn for its orbit around Saturn. So
how did it retain Luna? Luna appears to have been captured
by Terra anywhere from a couple billion years ago to perhaps
800,000,000 years---- it is not made of the same material as
Terra, and the oceans show the very long period of tidal
activity. Point being, the primary body Luna would have been
orbiting would have been Saturn, with a synodic orbit around
Terra--- yet Ted asserts that the two went off hand-in-hand
to their new orbits.
 
Ted don't care what the facts are.
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