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From: canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson)
Subject: Re: Anthony Hopkins
Reply-To: canderso@nyx.UUCP (Chuck Anderson)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 21:18:15 GMT

I thought he was very good in "The Bounty" (which I'd recommend for many
reasons - soundtrack, photography, historicaly fair).

He also played Quasimoto in a made for TV version of "The Hunchback..."
Excellent!

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From: boisvert@wpi.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Wanted:  Current goofs list
Date: 18 Nov 1992 19:13:48 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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	Could someone please email me the most recent movies goofs list.
Thank you.
-- 
Brian R. Boisvert    Worcester Polytechnic Institute    boisvert@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: OLDMAN WAS A SEXY VAMP--NOT!
Date: 16 Nov 1992 21:12:03 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
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In article <BxtL5C.HB8@inews.Intel.COM>, mdouglas@cad067.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Maria Douglas ) writes:
>
>-- 
>O.K. folks.  Here's my opinion (hold on):
>
>First, Gary Oldman didn't "do it" for me.  Period.  I WANT a hunk o' vampire
>and I got an unappealing, ho-hum, *unhung* vampire.  Chris Sarandon
>(from Fright Night) can bite me any day!!!  Sex appeal, for me, is
>quintessential to a convincing vampire, and Oldman was just that:
>an "old man."  I am heterosexual, and believe me, I thought the
>*women* were far more appealing and erotic than Oldman.  (The
>guy who played Lucy's fiancee, who I am sure played Westley in Pricess
>Bride, would have done it for me, too, but he was a stuffy English
>guy.)
>
   (Other valid criticisms deleted.)


I must disagree.  I thought Oldman was absolutely mesmerizing.  He is a 
brilliant actor who managed to be attractive and repulsive at the same
time.  Physically, he is less handsome than any of the other actors in
the movie, but he was so RIGHT for the part I couldn't keep my eyes off
him!

>
>And finally, I didn't buy the "tragic/romantic" stuff.  I nearly puked
>when I heard Mina's voice-over at the end about how their love was
>"stronger than the darkness" or some such nauseating stuff.  Puh-leeze!
>It disgusts me that they romanticized this horrific tale.  Our myth-less
>society has emasculated a very religious, very spiritually horrifying
>story.  I understand that movie makers have to appeal to the masses,
>as it were, and in the process they have to secularize stories, but
>this movie *to me* has lost much of its original power.  Gag!
>

I've never read the book, but other people who have have said that
it IS a romantic story, usually downplayed by the movie versions.  I 
was sceptical of believing in the romance part before I went, but
again, due to Oldman's incredible performance, I found it believable.

My overall opinion:

DRACULA was a very well-made, exceptionally acted movie that overdid
the blood and gore.  All that blood simply was not necessary to sustain
a level of suspence or terror, nor were the creepy creature outfits. 

Mary H.
Marquette University
From: joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM (John O'Neil - SunExpress IR)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: spike lee &  boston celtics
Date: 18 Nov 1992 10:28:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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i have never seen any spike lee movies, but i understand he has a problem with
larry bird and the celtics. i read a interview where he states he hopes the red sox and the 
celtics never will another game.  does anyone know any more info on this, just what is this 
guy's problem.

________________________________________________________________________________
 ///   all the world will be your enemy                       \\\  ++ JOHN P. ONEIL
( 00   and when they catch you, they will kill you      00 ) ++ SUN EXPRESS IR
|\_|   but first they must catch you....                          |_/| ++ METHUEN,MA.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Spike Lee
Date: 22 Nov 92 11:26:32
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
Distribution: usa
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In-reply-to: tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu's message of Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:29:06 GMT

tfischer@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Thomas C. Fischer) writes:
||>     What was the name of Spike's first film?  I believe it was a woman's
||> name?

|"She's Gotta Have It"

|great flick, by the way...


True.  By the way, an earlier film--done while he was still in
school--called "Joe's Bed-Stuy Barbershop, We cut heads" is availanle
on video.  I hear it's very good.

--
Peace.
                             "You get your freedom by letting your enemy know
                              that you'll do anything to get your freedom; then
                              you'll get it. It's the only way you'll get it."
                                                  -- Malcolm X
                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-

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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Dracula - Francis Ford Coppola
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 18:13:28 GMT

In article <Bxyzx1.LwJ@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> vaughan@fe744.cc.purdue.edu (jake vaughan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.174824.9672@athena.mit.edu> eprice@sybase.com writes:
>>from SUSPIRIA) but still, it's becoming very annoying that it is
>>impossible to see so many films the way they were intended to be in a
>>theater, on the Big Screen (at least in the United States).
>>Laserdiscs are ok but can't compare to the real thing.
>
>Laserdiscs are 'OK`!?  Yes, it is true that nothing can compare with seeing a film on a big screen but the quality that your getting from watching a laserdisc 
>far outweighs what your getting in most theatres.  

. . .

>Finally, the picture
> quality on a laserdisc is far better then anything that you willl see in a movie theatre.  Take it from me, I have done my homework and laserdisc quality surpasses anything I've ever seen.

Then they must have piss-poor theaters in your area.  None of the laserdisk
and big screen TV's I've seen demoed can compare with the picture quality of
a half-decent theater.  And a lot of theaters around here are considerably
better than half-decent.  The picture quality of the best theaters in LA
make the best laserdisk player shown on the best TV look pitiful.  As far as 
surround sound goes, I regard it as tertiary in importance, not even secondary.
In addition to which, the best theaters in Los Angeles *do* have genuine
surround sound.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: cccsims@it-cap-39.ucdavis.edu (Jonathan Sims)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Help settle a stupid bet over War of the Roses.
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:23:29 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, UC Davis
Originator: cccsims@it-cap-39.ucdavis.edu



   Due to my V.C.R. being stolen not to long ago I can`t just rent War of the
Roses to settle the bet myself. That said, the bet is:  I say Turner shrugged
Douglas off at the very end of the movie but my friend thinks that Douglas
shruged Turner off (by the end I mean when they die).  Thanks..

Jonathan Sims
Unix/VMS consultant, U.C. Davis Information Technologies
jlsims@ucdavis.edu
cccsims@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
From: jean.simon@cutting.hou.tx.us (Jean Simon) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: french movies
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:48:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: jean.simon@cutting.hou.tx.us (Jean Simon) 

 -=> Quoting Jim Hebert to Jean Simon <=-


JH> My vote for Best Movie of All Time goes to "JEAN de FLORETTE"! 
JH> 
JH> What a wonderful story, and it is even even more enjoyable with its
JH> sequel, "Manon du la Source".
JH> 
JH> Yes, when data telecommunications burns you out, there is nothing like
JH> a good French movie, some fine Bordeaux wines, and perhaps some good 
JH> French bread!  

Don't forget the cheese, in France, we have around 300 differents brands 
of cheese!  :-)
"Jean De Florette" and "Manon des sources" are really great movies. If you
like them and like Marcel Pagnol, you can watch now 2 others very good 
movies. The titles are "My Father's glory" and "My Mother's castle". These
two movies tell the story of Marcel Pagnol's childhood in Provence near
Marseilles. They are quite enjoyable. 

JH> what started up the French movie thread in comp.dcomp.modem, anyways ?

It was my mistake, I post a list of French movies in the wrong conference.

... Catch the Blue Wave!            
             
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Malcolm X controversies
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:37:32 GMT

In article <1ec3epINNm3m@bigboote.WPI.EDU> jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) writes:
>In article <2B095FD9.13757@news.service.uci.edu> assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site) writes:
>>
>>>In article <=qt1x1_@rpi.edu> kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim) writes:
>>
>>>>I heard that some people are protesting against the opening of X.  Any
>>>>one know why?
>>>
>>Because there are alot of ignorant, small-minded people out there
>>who believe that just because a film is made about African Americans
>>that some sort of violence or "trouble" will be incited if the film
>>is shown.  There are also some people objecting to the flag burning
>>and Rodney King beating shown at the beginning of the film.  Perhaps
>>they just cannot stand being faced with the reality of the society
>>they live in and they prefer to maintain the illusion of their
>>own little "sheltered" world.  Either way, I think it is reprehensible
>>that where or how often ANY movie is shown would be determined by the
>>ethnicity of the actors involved or by issues addressed in the movie
>>that are "less than comfortable" to the general public.  This is
>>censorship, plain and simple.
>
>	No, it's not.  Censorship is when the government orders something to
>be changed or excised or forbids it from being released.  This is people
>trying to influence their (privately owned) local theater.  Although I
>consider that to be obnoxious, it's not censorship.

In the first place, folks, you have to keep in mind that some trouble
was related to a film in recent past, and this has been repeatedly
reported via the news.  It's no surprise that some folks are going to
respond to it by voicing concern, regardless of what others think
the facts are.

In the second place, there are a lot of ignorant and small-minded
people, and that includes not only those worrying about a movie, but
often those that get so worked up over a movie that it incites them
to violence.

In the third place, it's a bit ironic that any folks should
protest the showing a movie about a man who was reevaluating his
philosophies and searching for personal truth until his dying day,
while assuming that this kind of movie has somehow a "bad" message,
don't you think?  In the end, the biggest enemy is ignorance.

GMS

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From: hasch@chem.queensu.ca (Hartmut Schmider)
Subject: The Reservoir Dogs
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Summary: Good film. Why's nobody talking about it?
Organization: Dept. of Chemistry, Queen's University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:44:55 GMT

Just saw 'The Reservoir Dogs' after reading the review of The Phantom.
The film is one of the best I've seen this year. It is short, violent   
and straight to the point. The actors are excellent. The camera is great,
the script simple and unpredictable. There is almost nothing that could 
have been done better. Four out of four.
By the way: this was the first time, I was sitting in a theater all by myself.
Doesn't seem to be a blockbuster, does it? Go figure.

			Hartmut
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:53:30 GMT

In article <1e8vrmINNdcu@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU>, han-esther@yale.edu (Esther Han) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Nov16.151719.4793@b8.b8.ingr.com> anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:
|> 
|> :) No offense, but if you've read the book I'd think it would only emphasize the
|> :) genius of Serling's adaptation. I read the book and thought it stunk. Really just
|> :) plain boring. Serling did much more with the idea in his screenplay. I think all
|> :) the best innovations were NOT in the book.
|> :) 
|> :) Anthony
|> :) 
|> 
|> Are you kidding?  I thought the book was about twenty times better and more
|> interesting than the movie.  Did you get through the whole book?  There was
|> more suspense, and an even more shocking ending than in the movie.  I saw the
|> ending in the movie a mile away (though I had already read the book and
|> expected something different).
|> 

I experienced it the other way around; I saw the movie first, then read the book.
Maybe the first one you're exposed to ruins the second for you, since there are
marked differences IMHO between the tone and feel of the two works.

By the way, I did read the whole book and I still like the movie ending better.

Anthony

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From: a909486@tiuk.ti.com (Julian Jones         (0032  jzj))
Subject: The Draftsman's Contract
Reply-To: a909486@tiuk.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments Ltd.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:10:30 GMT

On the subject of Greenaway, I have never seen this film on video anywhere
in England. Anybody know where I can get hold of it ?

I think Prospero's Books can only be enjoyed properly if you are familiar
with The Tempest. Otherwise you haven't got a hope of following it.

Julian Jones
Software Engineer
Texas Instruments
England


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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: What happened with RoboCop 3?
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:57:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.140928.10580@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca> hatcher@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Donald L.C. Blewett) writes:
>
>  I seem to remember a while ago that Orion pictures was making RoboCop 3.
>I also remember hearing that Peter Weller didn't want to do the part, so
>they had to recast.  I do remember seeing some preliminary footage on 
>Entertainment Tonight, where they said that R3 would be out sometime this year.
>Well, as you all know, Orion had some financial troubles (let's face it, they
>went bankrupt.) And, I have not heard anything about R3 since. (Well, I did
>see an add for a Nintendo game based on R3).  Does anyone know when R3 will
>be released?  A better question, perhaps, would be, did the movie get finished? 
Buried in a recent posting I made, with half a dozen other items, was the
news that Orion has emerged from bankruptcy and is planning to release
the 10 completed films that they have sitting on their shelves.  "Robocop
3" is one of these, and it was indeed finished quite some time ago.  Orion
has not yet announced a full release schedule, though they have indicated 
that "Love Field", starring Michelle Pfeiffer, will be the first one they 
release, probably in February.  My guess is that they will release "Robocop 
3" in the spring, hoping to grab the action/science fiction film
audiences before the big summer movies open.  But that's just a guess.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer)
Subject: Re: Catwoman: feminist or femme fatale?
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<mwojcik-161192144231@college23.sas.upenn.edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:13:56 GMT

In article <mwojcik-161192144231@college23.sas.upenn.edu> mwojcik@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Michael Wojcik) writes:


   In the comic book series "Batman: Year One", Catwoman was a prostitute. She
   liked cats and had a regular john who liked her to dress up in a kinky cat
   outfit. She got into "cat-burglarly" semi-Robin Hood style, and was angered
   by the Press attributing her capers to the batman. She therefore began to
   attack the batman in revenge.

You should also make a point of reading ``Catwoman:  Her Sister's
Keeper,'' which tells events from the same period, but focussing on
Catwoman rather than on Batman.  Much better done than Year One, IMHO.

-Joe.
From: hughes@dogwood.botany.uga.edu (Wayne Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Help settle a stupid bet over War of the Roses.
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:42:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: rigel.1992Nov19.024222.24378
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <19395@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> cccsims@it-cap-39.ucdavis.edu (Jonathan Sims) writes:
>
>
>   Due to my V.C.R. being stolen not to long ago I can`t just rent War of the
>Roses to settle the bet myself. That said, the bet is:  I say Turner shrugged
>Douglas off at the very end of the movie but my friend thinks that Douglas
>shruged Turner off (by the end I mean when they die).  Thanks..
>
   This was discussed a couple of months ago.  Recently I rented
   War of the Roses and watched for it.  It's unmistakeable.  Douglas
   reaches for Turner's hand at the end, and she shoves it away.
   You win (why would Douglas have shrugged Turner off, it would have
   been completely out of character).

   Wayne
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Subject: Re: spike lee &  boston celtics
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:37:29 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies

In article <1992Nov19.195319.27398@u.washington.edu>,
il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh) wrote:

> My problem is that his subject matter is always about racial conflicts/
> problems.  There are many other stories to be told.  As you said, there
> are countless white directors and writers, but very few of their movies
> are about the same subject.  Their subject matters cover a much broader
> spectrum.

I have the same problem with Lee (well, I also think his talent 
somewhat less than, say, FFC...).  Anything and everything is 'racism.'
Why didn't _Do the Right Thing_ win an Oscar?  Because it was primitive,
dull, poorly-written, and of minor appeal?  No.  It was racism.  Lee's
been crying about racism since a white doctor slapped his black butt.

His stories are contrived.  His characters are contrived.  His
camera angles are contrived.  His sets are contrived.  He, himself,
is contrived.

The biggest squaking media phenomena this side of Madonna (and
even there, he's not *quite* in the same league...).
From: agrawal@panarea.usc.edu (Amitabh Agrawal)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Laser disc vs Theatre quality (was Re: Dracula - Francis Ford Coppola)
Date: 20 Nov 1992 13:29:34 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: rec
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In article <BxzBzo.8o5@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> vaughan@feserve.cc.purdue.edu (jake vaughan) writes:

   In article <1992Nov19.181328.20755@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:
   >>Finally, the picture
   >> quality on a laserdisc is far better then anything that you willl see in a movie theatre.  Take it from me, I have done my homework and laserdisc quality surpasses anything I've ever seen.
   >
   >Then they must have piss-poor theaters in your area.  None of the laserdisk
   >and big screen TV's I've seen demoed can compare with the picture quality of
   >a half-decent theater.  And a lot of theaters around here are considerably
   >better than half-decent.  The picture quality of the best theaters in LA
   >make the best laserdisk player shown on the best TV look pitiful.  As far as 
   >surround sound goes, I regard it as tertiary in importance, not even secondary.
   >In addition to which, the best theaters in Los Angeles *do* have genuine
   >surround sound.

      The fact _is_ that a laserdisc image scans 425 lines of resolution   
   on a television screen (vcr is 250 for comparison) and a film at the    
   theater is being projected from a small piece of film and being blown   
   up to an enormous size creating a grainy picture at best.  Sure, I      
   prefer a huge screen to a 40 inch television screen but I also prefer   
   a sharper image.  An interesting fact about the sound at theaters is    
   that the sound is recorded on the edge of the film and to read it they  
   shine a light through this.                                             

The fact that the big picture that you see on the screen comes out
from a tiny piece of film does not mean that it has to have a
resolution less than 425. I don't have the exact figures but I was
talking to a couple of friends who were doing some computer animation
for IMAX (whose film is basically three 70mm films) and the idea that
I got was that the resolution was at least an order of magnitude
higher than NTSC. (which is 425 scan lines). 

	    Whatever light makes it through is transformed into sound.
	Compare this to the digital quality sound from a laserdisc and you get
	a low fidelity sound system.

Boy! you are missing out on life. You need to come to LA. Get a
theatre / movie with both THX and Dolby Digital (is that the exact
name?) and you will see what true movie magic is like. 

Amitabh Agrawal
From: erobinette@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Need indepent film titles
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:12:07 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

Hi, all.

I'm helping to put together a film series focusing on notable independent films
(i.e. films not released through a major studio) or films made with an
independent spirit; i.e. the film-makers run against conventions. I'd like some
ideas. Please try to make your suggestions fairly unique--in other words, don't
name something that is widely available on video. We want to give people a
reason to come to the shows instead of staying home and popping in a tape.

Please use the REPLY command or e-mail me at: 

erobinette@desire.wright.edu

Thanks in advance,
Eric Robinette
From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: movies for women's studies
Date: 21 Nov 92 03:17:21 GMT
Organization: Gallaudet University

We're trying to get together a film series here for our Women's Studies 
group... If you were in charge, what films would you show? (foreign, 
domestic, recent, old, it doesn't matter... you choose)

rlwilliams@gallua.bitnet
From: pearl@sw.stratus.com (Dan Pearl)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Cheesy monsters (was Re: Brief review of Dracula)
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:13:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: spectacle.sw.stratus.com

drwho@wpi.WPI.EDU (Eric Ant Von Laudermann) writes:
>Ok, all you folks out there in net land, what movies have you seen that 
>featured a monster which doesn't look "cheesy"?  (Sounds like the Subject 
>line of another unending thread to me!:-)

Alien
Jabberwocky


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