From: pjm@anegada.sps.mot.com (Patrick J. McGuinness)
Subject: Re: faxes and other terror tactics
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin TX
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:11:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug10.195604.1938@sdf.lonestar.org> thyat@sdf.lonestar.org (Tom Hyatt) writes:
>In article <1992Aug7.192750.28842@anasazi.com> john@anasazi.com writes:
>>Keywords: 
>>
>>Let us not forget a couple of things...
>>  Mary whatshername's "bimbo eruptions" statement was a quote from a CLINTON
>>    campaign aid
>>  Most of her statement (which the press did NOT run) was a collection
>>    of scare tactics and half-truths made by the Clinton campaign against
>>    Bush.
>>
>>Yes, Bush will attempt to highlight everything wrong he can find on Clinton.
>>Guess what... Clinton will do the same thing to Bush.
>>
>
>I agree that both candidates will be doing quite a bit to make the other look
>as bad as possible. However, what I have seen is that the shots that Clinton
>is throwing toward Bush is generally issue-oriented

Nonsense. They have called Bush all sorts of names, from racist
to tax evader, seeded the recent "Bush-affair" stories,
and have gone negative every day on Bush.
>(chiding him for dragging
>his feet in the Croat-Serbian war, etc.) while we hear reports of "bimbo" 
>patrols in the Bush camp.

Again, that is a *Clinton*-based comment. Amazing how something
a Clinton aide said can be turned into Bush campaign "sleaze".

Clinton has run the most negative campaign of any Democrat in years.
He did it against Tsongas, now he's doing it on Bush.
What's amazing is that the real negative campaigner, Clinton,
has managed to get Bush tarnished with that brush, based on
what? Willie Horton? The issue first brought up by ... Al Gore?!?

>From _my_ perspective, I've not really seen too
>much on the positive side from the Republican side as to what they will do
>to get the country back on its collective feet.
Hmmmm. Cotton in your ears, perhaps?

>At least Clinton has a plan -
So did Hitler. :-)

>not that great of a plan, mind you, but at least it's a start.
As far as I can tell, his economic plan takes the stupidity of the 1990
tax hike and doubles it. So he's twice as bad a the Bush/Congressional
Democrat brokered deal.

With plans like that that, I'd take HRPerot on a white horse.
Or Bush II for that matter.

>>Hmm... you mean like Hillary's comments that George had had an extra-marital
>>affair? That's really issue oriented, isn't it! Get a clue...

One of many Hillary 'comments'.

>>]My friends, that smacks of facism, pure and simple.  I get my information
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
fighting name-calling with name-calling?
>>]guys. I'm just as American as the next person.  One question: do you not
>>]want the other views to be heard simply because you think they are wrong, or
>>]is it possible that you are afraid that they might be right?
>>
>>Chill out, dude! No one is calling you a card carrying commie. You
>>must have have one hell of an imagination.
>
>Problem is, that I *have* been called that by a few members of the far right.
>And before you ask, is was not at any official function of any side, but at
>a private party that I and a few friends got into a rather heated discussion
>with a few members of opposing viewpoints.

Big deal. Conservatives have to deal with fools and blowhards
calling them "fascists" or "racists" (as Maxine Waters calls Bush)
or a number of false mudslinging names.
This doesn't excuse the fact that conservative blowhards and fools
might call *you* names, but from ordinary folks, just consider it
a compliment that they've run out of ideas and are left with
ad hominem.

The real issue is when so-called "leaders" engage in name-calling.
Such as Maxine Waters, as above. Or campaigns, like when
Clinton called Bush a tax evader. 
Perhaps Bush has done stuff too, but if the worst the Bush
camp has done is fax a message that repeats the "the sniveling,
hypocritical Democrats" own words, then the Bush camp is being pretty
tame in comparison.

>>]holding my nose on concerning them.  If anyone here wants to defend the
>>]campaign tactics by the RNC, please post publicly.

Far be it from me to do that.
Actually, I think they've been kind of easy on Clinton, e.g., letting
him fulminate about Bush's 1990 Budget deal, without talking
about the hypocrisy of a candidate saying how Bush broke his
pledge when it was his fellow Democrats who egged him on, even
made it a requirement to get any spending caps in place.
If the budget deal was bad, Clinton should be straight, honest
and say he would repeal it.  (Nah, won't happen.)
Otherwise, it's just his usual slick campaigning.
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