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From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: ZX-11 front brake.
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:24:55 GMT

In article <1676@seqp4.sequoia.com> cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell) writes:
|In article <1992Nov18.092422.45@rediris.es>, marrevola@rediris.es writes:
|> In article <1992Nov17.175623.28861@megatek.com>, randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis) writes:
|> > In article <1992Nov17.094551.38@iris-dcp.es> marrevola@iris-dcp.es writes:
|> > |Any advice to improve the front brake performance of a ZX-11?
|> >   Improve how?  Feel?  Stopping distance?
|> 
|> I'd like to improve feel and braking power. I think that this brakes are not
|> enough for a 147 HP bike... For instance, the CBR900RR brakes are superior.
|
|Randy sounds pretty surprised, and although I have a ZX-10 instead of an -11,
|I'm also a little surprised. I would think that our brakes are pretty similar,
|and the front brake on my -10 is very capable.

  Yeah, I was a little surprised.  However, a subsequent poster mentioned
something that I left out of my post that might explain his dissatisfaction
with the ZX-11 brakes.  The aspect of maintenance.

  I completely purge my brake (and clutch) hydraulic lines at least once a
year, and replace with new Castrol DOT 4 LMA brake fluid.  If you fail to do
this, then I'm sure you will be dissatisfied with your braking power due to
the water and air in the brake lines.  (I ride year around also - if you
store your bike at all, you will need to do this more often, perhaps).

  The only time I have been dissatisfied with the brakes on my 1990 ZX-11
was when I needed to bleed/purge the brake lines, and the one time I made
the mistake of putting EBC Gold pads on it.  Perhaps the brakes could be
better (I rode a lady friend's GSXR1100 yesterday that had awfully touchy
brakes - perhaps they were better than mine, although they bugged the hell
out of me since I wasn't used to them), yet I do a bit of pretty aggresive
canyon riding periodically, and have been happy with them.

| It has enough braking power to
|lock the front wheel without incredible effort, but enough feel so I can avoid
|locking. No squishiness at all.

  Yeah, I can lock the front wheel if I try to.  The only improvement I might
try to do is to add steel braided lines to improve the already-excellent brake
"feel".

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy

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From: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Subject: Re: Squash or slide?
Reply-To: scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:13:16 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.215907.5664@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>In article <LOTTO.92Nov22084843@laura.harvard.edu> lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>>There have been papers presented on techniques for departing from
>>one's mount prior to collision.  They all share a common problem.
>>Your directional and speed control is better while on the motorcycle.
>>This is similar to the statement "I had to lay it down".  Literally
>>translated, it means "I couldn't/didn't know how to execute an
>>effective accident-avoidance/reduction maneuver".
>
>I absolutely, positively agree with everything you say in this posting.
>There are however events which are not covered by what you say.  I am not
>talking about collision avoidance, I'm talking about hitting that patch of
>oil at night in a corner.  One moment you are happy in the saddle,
>0.3 femto-seconds later you're airborne.  Then what.  Based on everything
>I've read on the net, the only really productive thing to do is think of

	The most productive thing you can do is have bought leathers
	recently and be wearing them at the moment :-/

>something particularly clever to yell just before impact so you have 
>a neat posting to deliver to the masses if and when you get outta the
>hospital.

>Ride Free, and think of something clever to say in the air,

	Hmmmm.... I'm thinking, I'm thinking... first thing I said to the
	guy who cut me off this summer was "@##$!% @^@#$*&^!$  !@$*#$*&^"!
	He responded, "Come on, buddy, this is New York!"  Grrrrr....

>Bill

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From: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: Riding in the rain
Originator: markk@sparcplug
Keywords: rain gear, staying dry cheap.
Reply-To: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:49:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.193544.25936@ichips.intel.com>, prem@pdx194 (Prem Pahlajrai) writes:
I've tried using a regular twopiece rainsuit over 
>  the leathers, but these flap quite a bit, and in less than three weeks 
>  of use, I'd kicked a hole through the cheapie that I bought. 

>  So now I'm looking for a rainsuit under $100 (you get what you pay for).
>  Something that I could wear over my leathers, which doesn't flap about
>  too much while riding, and easy to get in and out of. Any recommendations?

Buy a not so cheapie.  IMHO there is no reason to spend $100 on a
rainsuit unless you have a thing about looking like a big yellow geek
on a moto.  I spent $15.00 on mine at the local surplus store.  It's
one of those yellow plastic ones, but it is made of heavy material
with a stout zipper, ties, and wrist and ankle closures.  This will be
its third winter (albiet CA winter) of commute duty and I've not had a
single problem with it, not even flapping.

>  Right now the weakest part in my dress are my shoes - hiking boots with
>  nylon uppers. Even when its not wet, the feet get quite cold. Any 
>  suggestions on low cost ways of keeping the feetsies warm & dry?
>  (Atleast till I get mentally prepared to spend the big bucks on good
>  riding boots).

Pick up a pair of the new pattern combat boots at the local surplus
store.  About $50, comfortable enough to walk long distances in and
will last for years of daily use.

--
- )V(ark)<  FZR400 Pilot / ZX900 Payload / RD400 Mechanic  DoD #400
                       Surplus motorcyclist.
From: merenda@romulus.rutgers.edu (Kill Bon Jovi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bikes Indoors and Riding with Gas
Summary: we don't need no stinkin' gas!
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:09:21 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Nov11.190254.8516@rtsg.mot.com>, svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
> In article <4265@cvbnetPrime.COM> rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben) writes:
> |In article <27785.89.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) writes:
> |>

[stuff about fire codes and cooking healthfood on a running motor
 deleted]


> 
> I have thought of taking along a quart or so of gasoline as an emergency
> fuel when I go on long tours.  What is the net.consensus on what would be the
> best container for that, and where it would be best to put the container.
> The best thought I have is one of those spun aluminum camp fuel bottles,
> strapped somewhere on the back of the motorcycle.  
> 
[more stuff deleted]
> 
> (And I just know someone is going to suggest the classic gas trasportation
> container; an empty beer bottle. :-)
> 
> Oh, and for the North American Challenged :s/gasoline/petrol/g

well, a friend and i headed up to Canada one fine day to escape
New Jersey, 'cause it sucks balls here, and we threw in a 
1 gallon gas container into my hard luggage trunk on the back
of my CX500. well, it got MIGHTY cold there, and we were riding
along on this fine road, and started looking for a gas station. we
always check the distance to the next town to make sure that we have
got enough gas to make it, but these little towns shut down when it
got past 6:00 pm. so we were riding and riding, and getting lower and 
lower on gas, and it was COLD out. we did eventually find a open gas
station, but only after we were both on reserve and had used that
gallon of gas! needless to say, i will *NEVER* tour without that
little 1 gallon again. i'd probally still be walking if i didn't have
it. and the one that i have is real small, square, hard plastic,
and hardly takes up any room at all. and as far as the 'gas
bomb' theory goes, there's a huge gas bomb right between my 
legs anyway, and sometimes in my large intestine depending on what
i've eaten. also, spare control cables are good to have when you tour.
it would suck to be stuck in the middle of nowhere because of a 
broken cable. easy repair, small part, cheap, but REAL inconvient
when they go on you and you don't have a spare. 

peace. ride safe.


-frank merenda-
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From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Helmet Cleaning
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 13:31:46 GMT

Actually one of those small wet/dry vacs with a good
uphostlery cleaner does wonders for the inside of the
helmet, if it irritates your head use baking soda to
clean it out. Use the "crevice" tool to clean with.
Then do the air dry bit, don't get it soaking wet either.
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From: srabo@csws19.ic.sunysb.edu (Sebastian Rabo)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Engine "Blueprinting"?
Date: 20 Nov 92 05:17:45 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook



 	Blueprinting is the process of preparing an engines tolerances to
	within the manufactures specifications so as to *optimize* the engines 
	operating characteristics for a given use. 
	   For example, crankshaft tolerances (main & rod bearings) are always
        specified by the manufacture to be within a certain range, a 
	"race prepared" engine may have these clearances specifically chosen
	at the high end of this range (as clearance goes up frictional forces
 	go down, but so does service life). Similar tricks are played with
	piston rings, valve guides etc. The term blueprinting may also
	encompass the process of balancing, where components are matched mass
	wise (lightning all of the connecting rods to match the lightest etc.)
	This process is particularly critical for high winding motors.
	
	It is probably not worth blueprinting just the crankshaft specs. 
	To realize the full potential of such a job the entire engine should 
	be blueprinted, at that the cost may not be warranted on a street
 	motor. 
	   My advice would be to have the crank prepared (cut, polished...) and
	purchase the appropriate size bearings, crank shops usually sell the 
	correct bearings. If you don't have the appropriate micrometers 
	(don't rely on plastigage!) and other tools have a competent *clean* 
	machine shop perform the work. 

	Sebastian.
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: per mile stats (was Re: Saturday night COPS on FOX)
Date: 23 Nov 92 00:01:52 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Nov19.234010.2718@nimbus.com> jimiii@nimbus.com (Jim Warford) writes:
>In article <28396@castle.ed.ac.uk> cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes:

|>>Don't know about cars or mc's breakdown but in the USA it is 1.3 fatalities
|>>per 60 million miles driven.  In Latvia it is 25 per 60 million miles.  Latvia
|>>is the most dangerous place to drive and the US is tied with the Netherlands
|>>as the safest.

|>In the UK the fatality rate for cars is 4.5 per billion km, which
|>works out at .43 deaths per 60 million miles travelled.

|> ... this suggests that the UK is safer than the US.

| I got my figures straight out of Wednesdays newspaper.
|They quote their source as a report by the "International Road Federation"
|Where did you get your statistic from?

The UK Govt statistics in the annual publication "Social Trends",
available from UK HMSO (Govt publication) bookshops. This figure has
only changed a little (getting a little worse) in the last several
years.
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
From: root@ESD.3Com.COM (Andy Chan - 3Com Corp. CA.)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Saturday night COPS on FOX
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:27:27 GMT

rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:

>I might want to stop riding my bike.  I have always though about the
>possibility of getting into an accident and losing some body parts,
>but it is different when you see it happen!

>anyway, I just thought you might be interested in hearing about this.
>I was shaken up a little.


>technical devices of the day:
>(prestressed monomolecular dog-eared sensitive static fungus splitter)
>(continuous mega life rearranger)  I could use one of these!
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I'll take your EX then.
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From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: ZX-11 front brake.
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:56:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.094551.38@iris-dcp.es> marrevola@iris-dcp.es writes:
|Any advice to improve the front brake performance of a ZX-11?

  Improve how?  Feel?  Stopping distance?

  What have you done to them (i.e., what is NOT stock about your brakes)?  The
stock brake system on the ZX-11 is pretty good, although NOT the best binders
available on stock motorcycles.  However, the wrong pads can make the system
feel like trash - which was my experience with EBC pads.  Whatever you do, do
NOT put "EBC Gold" pads on the thing - they have about half the braking ability
of the stock pads.

  If you are still running stock pads, you might try going to Ferodo or SBS
pads (it seems that SBS pads are easier to find, at least around here and
through the mail order shops I've tried).  Other than that, you might try
steel-braided lines (for about $100 if you install them yourself), which I
have not yet done to my ZX, since I am not unhappy with the brakes as they
are.  Past that, you are probably talking about different calipers.  (Read:
not a minor investment, and a bit of a hassle).

  What's wrong with your ZX-11's brakes?

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cycle World: the Pot Calling the Kettl
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:56:17 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 21006@acs.ucalgary.ca, parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>
>Christ on a jetski, man, 

I thought he was the ONLY one who wouldn't need one...

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DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
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From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: MERCEDES MOTORCYCLE????
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:28:44 GMT

ObBritish> Daimler went to England and started his own car company.  It was
           later bought by Jaguar who now use it only as a model designator.
           I owned a Daimler Double-Six which was a Jaguar XJ12 with extra
           luxury items.  Until a few years ago, Mercedes was known as
           Daimler-Benz in Germany.  I got some odd looks when people saw the
           Daimler logo on my car.  When I told German people I had a Daimler,
           they thought I had a Mercedes, not a Jag.  Funny, really.  Ah well.

ObMoto>  Jaguar didn't make a motorbike either, but they started life as a
         sidecar manufacturer.  Swift Sidecars, I believe (or Swallow?).  Their
         early cars were known as SSs as in SS100.


Nick (the Non-Jagged Biker)   MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford


M'Lud.
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From: dev2@inform.co.nz (Michael Seales)
Subject: Re: Fastest Bike Known
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 05:03:06 GMT
Organization: InForm Group Ltd.

In article <By6I2n.MAA@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
> tssmith@netcom.com (Tim Smith) writes:
> 
> >Buy new or in very good used condition. Bikes wear out a lot faster
> >than cars, and a bike (except maybe a Beemer or a Harley) with 30000
> >miles on it is usually completely crapped out.
> 
> Sigh, you mean my '91 FJ is going to blow up halfway through the next
> riding season? 
> 

Well, my XJ600 (FJ600 in the States) just clicked over 60,000 km's and
isn't even 3 years old. Beauty! Now, if only it was the 1200 instead...

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From: berck@cs.rulimburg.nl (Peter Berck)
Subject: Re: high mileage
Organization: University of Limburg, Maastricht
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:52:18 GMT

terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:

>In article <berck.721562461@cs.rulimburg.nl>, berck@cs.rulimburg.nl (Peter Berck) writes:
>> Crotchrocket is a much nicer word in Dutch, i.e. kruisraket. It also
>> means cruisemissile.

>   You call your crotches cruisers?

>Terry

Noo, we speak Dutch, so we call 'kruis' 'kruis', and 'kruiser' 'kruiser'. :)


-Peter (Keeper of the Divina Commedia)

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From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: What would you ride on a long distance trip?
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:57:49 GMT

In article <Bxw183.92L@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.214052.460@mksol.dseg.ti.com> martinn@mksol.dseg.ti.com (niels r martin) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov17.203709.6242@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>>>(in the ads) nice examples going for under $3,000. I wouldn't for a minute
>>>consider a yacht like a Wing or Electraglide because it limits the places
>>>you can camp and ride. 10 or 20 miles of dirt and gravel can really get you
>>>to some fine areas that the Winnebarges can't reach.
>
>>I have never had trouble riding my 78 Goldwing on gravel/dirt--of course I
>>don't drive like a crazyman either.
>
>Well, I drive my 81 Wing on all sorts of roads... It's just a matter of
>practice and restraint.  I happen to like an easy chair that will keep me
>off the ground if the Big Nasty (Tm?) happens.  A full fairing and luggage,
>as well as case guards, goes a long way when the "harsh Realities" comes
>my way.  If that means that I have a machine that is 100 pounds heavier and
>handles a little slower than a different bike, so be it.  I happen to like
>comfort. 
>

I guess it depends on the degree of nastiness. Some of my favorite spots
would give you a really hard time, I think, due to limited ground clearance.
Maybe I underestimate the capabilities of a Wing, but steep downhill rutted
switchbacks covered in softball size rocks and interspersed with sand washes
seem a little extreme for such a bike. Of course, not everyone would tackle
such terrain on any kind of street bike, but sanity has never been one of
my virtues.
   A graded dirt road isn't a problem for any bike. When you hit the high
altitude, unmaintained, washed out roads, it's a different story. A P-D 
would be really nice. Personal preference, nothing more. I've toured on 
my Bonneville for the same reasons. Sacrificed some interstate comfort (well,
actually, a lot) in exchange for riding up the fire trails, rather than 
walking. Gets me to a lot of places I'd otherwise not go.

Jeff Achenbach   
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From: cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (Kyle Cassidy)
Subject: Re: FORTUNE magazine profiles Hells Angels
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:14:44 GMT

In article <BD.92Nov18164022@fluent.UUCP> bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
>From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
>Subject: FORTUNE magazine profiles Hells Angels
>Date: 18 Nov 92 21:40:22 GMT
>
>Fortune says:
>     
>     The feds believe the DoD and other "computer geek
      biker outfits" earn as much as $100 a year from
      the sale of beer coasters, key fobs, bandanas
      and other biker illicits. during one of their fameous
      "hog roasts" they can be seen riding in packs of
      up to 100, with speedfreaks on Ninja's in front
      and slow-riding cruisers gawking as much as a mile
      and a half behind, complaining of back aches and
      not being able to reach the highway pegs. Often times
      these bikers will, for no apparant reason, pull over
      to the side of the road and begin heated conversations
      concerning Windows vs. OS2, sometimes ending in
      bloodletting.

      keep an eye on your rear view mirror.





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