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From: ben@osc.COM (Ben Sloss)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Acceleration differences
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:10:04 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Versant Object Technology, Menlo Park, CA

In article <1992Apr10.205916.28475@sco.COM> brianm@sco.COM (Brian Moffet ext 7605) writes:
>
>Hmm, I thought the only bike (production that normal people could buy)
>to break 1 G forward acceleration from 0-60 mph was the ZX-11.
>(someplace around 2.8 seconds from 0 - 60 mph (~100 Km/h))
>
>The reason the ZX-11 does it it because of the air intakes,
>as in they actually help at speed, and the fact that they actually
>took aerodynamics into account when they designed the thing.

Bzzzt!  The GSXR-1100, FZR 1000, and CBR 900 will all do 0-60 in less than 
three seconds.  Cycle World lists 0-60 times as well as 1/4-miles; see the 
May 1992 issue.  Offhand, I'd guess that the CBR 1000, FJ 1200 and ST 1100
are also around 3 seconds.  Even the CBR 600f2 takes only 3.2

Aerodynamics have a negligible effect on 0-60 times for machines in this 
class.  The primary factor here is power-to-weight.  The ZX-11's ram
air scoop probably increases its horsepower a bit at 60 mph, but since the
machine can wheelie past 60 mph, this is not really a factor.  It seems to
help the top speed quite a bit; we don't know how much, because no one has
tried disabling it and testing the bike again.

>brian moffet

-- 
Ben Sloss    ben@osc.com (415) 329-7500x172
Toys:        '93 CBR 900RR, '83 CB650SC
Quote:       "It's all fun and games until someone gets paid."
From: jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: official drink of the dod (was Re: DoD marital aid announcement
Date: 17 Apr 92 04:24:21 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In rec.motorcycles, rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben) writes:

> Grumble grumble, click, click, flick, click, flick-flick-flick WHOOOMMPSHHH!
 
Thanks Rich, I'm feeling *much* better now.  It has been awfully cold and
wet here.  Things are warm and dry now. 

-Jeff Deeney-           DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600(Shamu)
jld@hpfcla.fc.hp.com    AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F(Getting helicoiled)
"You can close your eyes, I've got a 12 gage surprise waiting for you"
			-James Taylor
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mwallace@isis.cs.du.edu (Mark Wallace)
Subject: Was: Cheap mail-order helmets
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 22:28:02 GMT

Subject: Cheap mail-order helmets
Originator: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu

I've decided I want to get a second helmet so that I have something
for my passengers to wear instead of having to scrounge. I know
what I want, a second Shoei RF200, and I know the size, medium,
so that the new helmet will match mine. Hence, I see no point
in going to a shop and paying extra money to try it on, etc.
What's the cheapest place you guys have heard of to buy helmets in
general, and an RF200 in specific? This should probably be followed
up to this group rather than emailed as I believe it's of general
interest.
-Ekr
>>>Response Follows:
     I recently ordered an RF200 from Dennis Kirk, they were asking 
     like 210.00 for the metallic ones, I told them I'd seen them
     advertised for 158.00(which was a special on a limited
     supply in another ad).  They matched the price and with 
     shipping the total was about 162.00.

     I'd suggest shopping around and then call whoever because
     most places will match anybody else's prices.

     Mark Wallace, Castle Rock, CO

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: CFV: Ban Steve Mosley (was: Motorcyclists and Bicyclists)
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 1992 15:08:42 GMT

In article <4dsvk9200WB80HisE2@andrew.cmu.edu> Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Howdy,

I hate when that happens.

>> See you at Summit Point, Mark. I can't wait to meet you in person.
>
>"Mark, meet Steve Mos--- HEY!!  Put those rocks DOWN!!!"
>:-)
>
>I probably won't be at Summit racing due to a serious cash flow
>problem, but I'll likely be corner-working there some (though this

Corner-working?  Is that when you stand on the corner with a dirty rag
and a bottle of Windex, waiting for motorists to stop at the light?

just curious.


Hey, Tod, it's good to see you back.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com                                        Naperville, IL
'71 CL450-K4 "Gleep"  - "Worth the Obsession"
DoD #094        "I'm not mad; just terribly, terribly hurt."  HDM #007
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: How Dangerous is a Bike,  really?????
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 12:21:56 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.235718.14227@wuecl.wustl.edu> c31002wb@jezebel.wustl.edu (WILLIAM) writes:
>Well, I would think that riding a car would be *MUCH* more dangerous than
>riding a morotcycle, I think that's why they suggest driving the car instead
>of riding on top of it but who knows.....


What is a morotcycle?

Sorry, had to do it  :-)



--
(804)-924-8607                   Michael L. Johnson
mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU   Pharmacology Dept.
mlj8e@Virginia.BITNET            Box 448; Univ. of Va.  
mlj8e@Virginia.EDU               Charlottesville, Va. 22908
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: parker@mprgate.mpr.ca (Ross Parker)
Subject: RE: RE: WHAT TO CALL A HA
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 19:03:18 GMT

In article <3263.89.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us>, dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
|> ->      Rotax is alive and well.  Are they American?
|> 
|>  Jeez, I dunno.  Old CanAm and Penton dirt bikes used Rotax engines.
|> I don't remember if the Rotax engines were Canadian or German.  Anyone
|> go back that far?

Rotax is Austrian.

Still alive, still designing and building engines.                                         

-- 
Ross Parker           |                            |
MPR Teltech Ltd.      | You can't erase the dream, | DoD# 1188
parker@mprgate.mpr.ca | You can only wake me up... | '88 FJ1200, '80 BMW R100T
From: moseley@milton.u.washington.edu (Steve Moseley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ninja 250, buzzer or not?
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:57:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Apr17.165719.7523
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr16.124429.364@msus1.msus.edu> Stafford@vax2.winona.msus.edu (J Stafford) writes:
>Possessed by memories of my old TD250 GP roadracer, I rode a Ninja 250 
>yesterday and while the handling was great fun, it vibrated (buzzed)
>to the point of numbing my hands. Point:  is this normal for this bike 
>or is this one damaged on some way?  (Yes, I am brain-damaged for even 
>thinking of buying such a fun little bike! --cheap!-- )

My wife's Ninja 250 does not buzz to the point of numbing her hands ( and
she has some 500 mile days on it) or my hands. It's a great little bike. I
don't know if the bike you rode is abnormal, my wife's bike is abnormal,
or whose hands are abnormal. You are not brain damaged for considering
that bike. It is FUN to take it up to 14K red line, and get to do it more
than once before reaching the official DoD speed.

 - Steve
DoD # 1951, COG, HOG, AMA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Eng Wordsmith])
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Yuasa gel cells
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:53:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.corp.sun.com


 Anyone know where in the continental US (preferably in
 the SF Bay area) I can purchase Yuasa gel cells? I've
 recently seen them in 12V5.5A configuration and want
 a couple for my racebikes. However, I don't know where
 to find them. The fellow who showed me his was from 
 Canada..

 Stefan
 sai@formula1.corp.sun.com
 415-688-9400

--
Stefan Fielding-Isaacs         me: (415) 599-4876  me at them: (415) 688-9400  
dba Live-Wire Technologies (a consulting technical writing firm) 
AMA/CCS #5, Lightweight Supersport, Superbike, Grand Prix Champion
mail:  race-request@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM to join motorcycle roadracing list
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:12900 ba.market.vehicles:1323
From: brogers@Auspex.COM (Bob Rogers)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.market.vehicles
Subject: FORSALE HONDA MAGNA
Keywords: v65
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:41:03 GMT
Followup-To: ba.market.vehicles
Distribution: ca

1984 Honda Magna V65 
1100cc Excellent Condition
$ 2200.00 or BO.

Contact Les at 408-295-2397
or email les@qckturn.com

Do not reply to this account.
-- 
brogers@auspex.com or uunet!auspex!brogers     (408) 492-0900
USPS: Bob Rogers/ Auspex Systems/ 2952 Bunker Hill Lane/ Santa Clara, CA 95054
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:12544 rec.bicycles:8933
From: dreeves@ese3.ogi.edu (Doug Reeves)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: adding more fuel to the fire
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:28:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute - Department of Env. Science and Eng.

In article <1992Apr8.185043.19130@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu> pfs@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (Paul Schnettler) writes:
>From the BADGER HERALD - UW Madison WI.
>
>Accident victim remains critical
[ details about accident deleted ]

>According to the report, none of the victims was wearing helmets.

Were they required for the bicyclist or the motorcyclist in the
state?

>OB-MOTO: IMHO the bicyclist made an improper lane change into the path
>of the speeding squidly motorcyclist! WHO DO YOU THINK WAS AT FAULT! (:')
It depends.  I've had cars approach me at 80+ mph in 45 zone, and 
they're damn hard to see when they come around the curve that's
200 feet back and they're traveling over 100 feet/second.  Not
knowing more about the conditions of the accident, road layout,
speed of the motorcycle, etc, it's hard to say.  They're both 
paying (physically) for the accident, no matter who is at fault.
Also unknown is if the cyclist had a mirror on the bike.  Chances
are, he didn't, a common occurance.  If he had, he (and two others)
might not be in the hospital now.  Then again, it might not have
helped.  It's speculative at best to make judgement with details
such as those presented.

>Paul Schnettler DoD#7734
>Still working on my SIG!

D. Reeves

--
|B. Douglas Reeves     Oregon Graduate Institute      dreeves@ese3.ese.ogi.edu|
|"The number of equations [in thermodynamics] has been estimated ... as being |
|on the order of 10^11....learning how to do the derivations[is]the easy part;|
|the hard part is knowing which of the 10^11 equations you need"  - J. Noggle |
From: moseley@milton.u.washington.edu (Steve Moseley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: "Shaft Effect?"
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:32:02 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr14.080232.1751@nic.csu.net> rbp@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Bob Pasker) writes:
>
>all the K bikes and the R100GS have paralever suspension.  it works
>great!
>
Right! I should have qualified my comments about the K100, because I last
rode one in '89, and those didn't have the paralever suspension. Also,
I got long and short mixed up and was corrected by additional posts, and
by my wife, that longer is better when it comes to shafts.

 - Steve
From: umpankr3@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Pankratz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 78 Kawasaki 1000 for $600
Date: 6 Apr 92 05:11:26 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

I'm looking fairly seriously at buying this bike, 78 Kawasaki 1000, (sorry,
don't know model), as my first bike. He's asking $600 canadian (~$500 US).
Apparently it has some accesories like saddle bags and a rack on back. I
havn't had a chance to see it yet, so I don't know the overall condition, but
I'm told the front tire is a little on the worn side. 

I have two questions. First, if this bike is decent shape, is it a good deal?
Second, I'm worried, it might be a bit heavy for a first bike. Although with
this bike, I wouldn't be too concerned about laying it down, I just want to 
make sure I can put it through the paces of my driving test.

Any input would be greatly apreciated.


=============================================================================
                         | The best way to get rid of your enemies is to make
Martin Pankratz          | them your friends.
University of Manitoba   | 
umpankr3@ccu.umanitoba.ca| It's better to be dead and cool, than alive and 
                         | uncool. Harley Davidson and the Marlborough Man     
=============================================================================
From: dlyons@necis.UUCP (Dave Lyons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Jump start with car? DONT DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:54:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NEC Information Systems, Acton, MA

In article <92106.150523U2EF5@wvnvm.wvnet.edu>, U2EF5@wvnvm.wvnet.edu wrote:
> 
> I have jump started my bike many times from automobiles with no problems.
> The point is that all you need is a 12V source, a car battery works just
> fine.  If you insist on using the car generator (i.e., by starting the
> car engine) then you are asking for trouble.  The generator puts out about
> 14V and has the capability of supplying high currents.
>                                         Gary

When last I looked it up (admittedly, some time ago) the typical lead-acid
wet cell battery produced 2.25 volts per cell.  That means that a "12v"
battery is more like a 13.5v battery.  This would account for charging
systems (cars & bikes) that produce more than 12v, after all the regulators
could just as easily be adjusted for exactly 12v if that was required.  The
12v designation is a holdover from the early days of auto development just
as condenser is an archaic term for capacitor.
-- 
******************************************************************************
Dave Lyons                             dlyons@necis.nec.com  (603)878-2567 BBS
Opinions expressed are mine.    My company doesn't even know I'm here (Shhhh!)
******************************************************************************
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: RE:motorcycle from "Black Rain"
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:29:03 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 39419@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, 2frjcocoon@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu () writes:

>In the environment that they raced, one could see why Douglas
>won.

Yeah, those Hollywood sound stages do tend to favor the movie's hero.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: kstell@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (kevin.l.stell)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: V45 Magna Question
Keywords: Honda, Magna, Buy
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:13:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

I recently was jilted at the alter..(bike deal fell through). 

Anyways, I got the itch to look at some "previously driven" bikes over the
weekend. It seems that the newer bikes don't catch my eye in terms of "style".
I really do like the classic lines (which is why the 83 Nighthawk caught my
eye)..But now.. (drum roll please).....

I have been bitten by the V45 Magna bug..say early to mid 80's. I once again
must congure up the demons of the net for its wisdom:

Wanted info:

	price range for 83-86 v45 magna.

	maintainence info, include problems, know pitfalls

	Strong points? weak ones? any one giving one away?

	Any personal opinions are welcome...


Thanks ole great net for your wisdom and guidence...(hip boot off mode: ON ) 


Kevin
From: groh@omicron.cs.fsu.edu (Jim Groh)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley 883 owners, I need your opinions!!!
Date: 15 Apr 92 07:06:42 GMT
Reply-To: groh@nu.cs.fsu.edu
Organization: Florida State University Computer Science Department

In article <4558@unccvax.uncc.edu> mpd@unccvax.uncc.edu (Michael Parker Davis) writes:
>
> The Harley 883 has had my attention for years,  Before next spring I want to 
>buy one.I really miss my Yamaha '78 XS 650 since selling it to my best friend.
>Two cylinders feels right to me.
>
>   An '883' would require some slight mods to make me totally happy though.  I
>would appreciate any comments or suggestions or corrections to the following 
>list of plans.
>
>Initial Bike ----  Harley XLH 883 Sportster , basic model, in 'Vivid Black'
>
>Initial changes ----  Change exhaust system to a Supertrapp 2 into 1.
           Good choice
>                      Add a Harley-Davidson oil cooler
           Why, the Evo engines really don't need it, unless maybe
           you live in death valley
>                      Change to Accel 9mm yellow plug wires (aesthetics)
           Okay
>                      Change seat to a Corbin Gunfighter & Lady saddle
           Is this aesthetics again, the standard two person seat is
           not so bad.
>
>Second changes  ----  Change ignition to a system which only fires one plug
>                        at a time, I believe DYNA makes it.
           Why, this will change the sound a bit, won't quite
           "chuff" like a "real" Harley does.  :-)
>                ----  Change brake pads to Ferodo's
            Good
>                ----  Add a Screaming Eagle carb modification & airbox kit.
            Good
>                ----  Change the camshaft (suggestions welcomed)
            Andrews B grind is nice
>                ----  Change rear shock (I am  6'2"/200lbs, any suggestions)
>                                        (OK, I'm loosing weight already    )
            I am 6'1"/200 lbs, and NOT losing weight, and the stock shocks
            are fine for normal riding.  If you are interested in really
            pushing it then there are several OEM type shocks available
            that are mainly stiffer. YMMV
>
>
>Third changes   ----  Get someone really good to tune it
            Good luck!!
>                ----  Get leather pants for me (I'm ready)
            I'd get a jacket first.
>                ----  Get leather pants for my wife (and get her on the bike)
            Get her chaps, ;-), much more interesting, particularly if you
            are going to 'get' her on the bike. Personaly however I prefer
            the bedroom (maybe its just old age)
--
Jim Groh     groh@sig.cs.fsu.edu  | DoD #0356  |   Hog# 0437643 |new  improved
1959 XLH 900  **  1982 FXR  **  1989 XLH 883  **  1990 XLH 1200 | smaller sig
From: hamiltoj@CS.ColoState.EDU ((n)<j>ay)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Jump start with car? DONT DO IT !!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:43:50 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department


	Other than the fact that the positive terminal on my Virago
is on the inside of the battery compartment and completey impossible
to get a jumper cable onto, once I conquered that problem, I had no
trouble jumpstarting it for a couple weeks until I got a new battery.


Jay Hamilton                  XV1000 with more chrome than a Harley
hamiltoj@handel.cs.colostate.edu        Time to change the oil again?!?!?!
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD ACHIEVES $5,000 PLAQUE AT AMA HERITAGE MUSEUM
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:50:34 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <CMM.0.90.2.702675732.arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Arnie Skurow) writes:
>With the check for $534 that I send the AMA Heritage Museum within the 
>next day or so, WE/YOU DoDers have achieved contributions of ~$5,500+
>dollars to the AMA Heritage Museum.
>
>There will be a LARGE plaque placed on the Founders' Wall in the name of
>Denizens of Doom, USENET, The World.  
( stuff deleted)
>Thank you, thank you, thank you.
>
>Arnie Skurow

And thank YOU Arnie!!

Say, what's the next level.  Anything special happen when we get to $10,000?

Ride Free,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu  johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002   SR= 2.125
FJ1200 R100GS/PD 740GLE  KotV :-)
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

True humor has beneath it the understanding that we are all
in this together.  Hugh Prather
From: Ray_L_Curry@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ADVICE ON HONDA 450 (1972
Date: Sun,  5 Apr 92 22:22:32 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

>* The CB450 engine is relatively straightforward, except for the valve
>*springs, which are... different.  It's the only engine I know of that
>*used torsion bars instead of coils, hairpins, or desmo actuation.  Back
> 
>How about the centrifical (sp?) separator it used to "spin" dirt out of
>the oil instead of using an oil filter?
The CL/CB350 had the same centrifical seperator and actually it worked 
pretty well.  Both had roller cranks and flowed a lot of oil and you had
to change it pretty often.  Both had pretty incredible redlines for the
day... That's why I bought one as my first in 68.  10500 for the 350 and   
9500 to 10000 for the 450.  Tach delay meant both tended to be over reved
but the 450's torsion bar springs tended to fail above 10500.  The 450 also
had a problem because the right and left valve springs were different with
a bias and misassembly caused rapid failure.  The "guppy" styled tank on
the first 450's were quite a note and they went to a classic teardrop shap
around 68.  Neither had a frame to right home about but nobody knew any 
better til the Yamaha's started getting better.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: eitzen@cs.UAlberta.CA (Rob Eitzen)
Subject: Re: O.K., HOW ABOUT DOD MOUSE
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:53:17 GMT

ttmech@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov (Paul Mech) writes:

>In article <1992Apr16.160902.7043@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>>
>>True, Real Men (tm) use trackballs.

>No, Real Men (tm) use the arrow keys.  None of these sissy interfaces!

No, DoDers use Polhemus trackers and data gloves.

Judge Dredd
1985 Suzuki Madura 700
Dod #268
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: HOCKEY EQUIPMENT AS S
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:52:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> THOR (Torsten Hallman Orginal Racewear) makes a knee guard that you
-> describe. They fit over your ankle and all the way up to your knee.

 Though there are lots of dirt bikes around here, the shops don't seem
to stock any armor.  Do you have an address for THOR?