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From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Zombie Dude)
Subject: Re: "malar" paadalgal.
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:43:48 GMT

In article <9aLM02ZB2f6H01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> fca00@chennai.ccc.amdahl.com (A. Francis Chandran) writes:
>In article <BzH2xw.109D@austin.ibm.com> speri%nfse.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com writes:
>>
>>In article <1gr49kINNbh6@menudo.uh.edu>, aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Affable) writes:
>>> malar and its variances:
>>> [1] malare, malare theriyathO  [movie: thEn nilavu]
>>> [2] malarnthum malaraatha [movie: paasa malar]
>>> [3] malarkalaip pOl thangai [movie: paasa malar]
>>> [4] malarE, kurinji malarE [movie: doctor siva]
>>> [5] poove, pooch chooda vaa [movie: poove pooch chooda vaa]
>>> [6] pookkalaithaan parikkaatheenga [movie: ???]
>>
>>   Movie: Pookkalaip ParikkaatheerkaL
>>
>>> [7] poovil vandu koodum [movie: kaathal Oviyam]
>>> [8] poove nee yaar cholli [movie: ???]
>>> [9] poove, chempoove [movie:???]
>>> [10] poovizhi vaasalil vanthu [movie: deepam]
>>> Feel free to add more.
>>
>> [11] malargaLilE aaraadhanai [movie: 
>> [12] aayiram malargalE malarungaL [movie: Niram Maaraatha PookaL]
>> [13] malargalil aadum ilamai pudhumaiyE [movie: Kalyaana Raman]
>> [14] poomazhai thoovi vasanthangaL vaazhththa [movie: Ninaiththathai
>>                                                  Mudippavan]
>> [15] senthoorappoovE senthoorappoovE [movie: 16 vayadhinilE]
>> [16] roja malarE raja kumari [movie: ??]
>> [17] poovannam pOla nenjam poopaalam paadum [movie: Azhiyaatha KolangaL]
>> [18] poo vaiththa poovaikku pookaL sonthamO [movie: Mattukkaara Velan]
>> [19] poo maalayil Or malligai, ingu naan thaan [movie: Ooty Varai Uravu]
>> [20] poovarasam poo pooththaatchu, ponnukku [movie: KizhakE POgum Rayil]
>> [21] sevvanthip poo mudichcha chinnakkaa [movie: 16 vayadhinilE]
>
> [22] aayiram thaamaria mottukkale [alaigal oivathillai]
> [23] mottu vitta mullakkodi, machan thotta majjakkili [???]
> [24] poo poo poo, poo pootha solai [puthu nellu puthu naathu]
> [25] oru kodiyil iru malargal [???]
> [26] ilanjolai poothatho [???]
> [27] athipoo, allipoo avaarampoo, nee oru jaathi poo [???]
> [28] poovile medai naan podava [???]
			Pagal Nilavu
> [29] puthiya poovithu poothathu [thenrale ennai thodu???]
			yep
> [30] punsirippil, poo malara oru kavithai paadavaa [???]
> [31] poovum thenral kaatrum oodal kollalaama [???]
> [32] malligai en mannan mayangum ponnaana malarallava [???]
> [33] pani vizhum malar vanam [nizhalgal or nenjathai killathe???]
			Ninavellam Nitya
>
>
>                                                       -francis.
>
>
>
>> 
>>- Peri.
>>
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: Re: Thiruppaavai Verses 18-20
Summary: One more correction in the verse 19 and a reply to Selva
Reply-To: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:24:54 GMT
Expires: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 05:00:00 GMT


In a previous article, ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian) says:

 [ Some parts deleted ]

>> 
>>\height=660 \width=460 \leftmargin=10 \C
>>\(TAMIL20) 19. raagam: ataaNaa
>>\beginbox
>>kuththu viLakkeriya kOttu(k) kaal kattilin mEl
>                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  A typo here. It is `kattil mEl'.
>
>>meththenRa pancha sayanaththin mEl ERi(k)
>>loththalar poonguzhal nappinai kongai mEl
  ^^^^^^^^^            ^^^^^^^^^^^
 This line is actually,
  `koththalar poonguzhal nappinnai kongai mEl'.
  ^^^^^^^^^^^            ^^^^^^^^^^
>>vaiththu(k) kidandha malar maarbaa vaay thiRavaay
>>mai(th) thadam kaNNinaay nee un maNaaLanai
>>eththanai pOdhum thuyilezha ottaay kaaN
>>eththanaiyElum pirivu aatragillaayaal
>>thaththuvam anRu thagavElOr embaavaay
>>\endbox
>>

    I forgot to point out the typo `loththalar' in the verse 19
 in my last posting.  So this additional posting.
 
    I thank Selva for his reply. I agree with him in his translation
 for `malar maarbaa'. That is , these words refer to flowers on 
 Narayana's chest, and not `wide chest' or `color of the chest'.
 I remember reading some Sanskrit verses in Bhagavatham which
 compare Vishnu's feet to lotus flowers and I confused them with
 Narayana's chest in translating `malar maarbaa'. Selva is correct.

   Selva has answered YES to my question whether the word `machchaan'
 in folk Tamil derived from `maiththunan'. I have been thinking about
 how some words in folk Tamil came to effect. It might be a good topic 
 in the net. I think that the word `aaththaa' in folk Tamil meaning
 `mother'  is derived from `akaththaaL'. The word `akam' meaning `il'
 or `house' [family life] dates back to the Sangam age and this age
 classified the Tamil literature into `akam' and `puRam'. Though the
 word `akaththaaL' is not seen in Tamil literature, its equivalent
 `illaaL' occurs in many places in the `akam' literature in Tamil.
 [ In `ThirukkuRaL', for instance.]

  Selva gave an interesting interpretation for the story of blind
 men and an elephant. The original parable, `Blind men and an
 elephant' given by Buddha has a different meaning however.

  I noticed the word `thattoLi' in verse 20 and Srinivasan has
 translated it as `mirror'. I find this word `thattoLi' interesting.
 This word looks like it is from Malayalam.





-- 
pax vobiscum,
sundara pandian.
ah724@yfn.ysu.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: vijay@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Vijay Rangarajan)
Subject: Re: NEWS: Temple for Kushboo in Tiruchi
Originator: vijay@picard.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:27:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.071252.19046@news.ysu.edu> ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:

>alive. ( The temple for M.G.R. in Perambur, Madras, was built
 ^^^^^                   ^^^^^
>after his death. )
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What's the difference ?

Vijay.
-- 
Uneasy lies the head that has dandruff.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: vaidhyan@ecn.purdue.edu (Ramesh Vaidhyanathan)
Subject: Re: Kazhi-nediladi Aciriya viruttam [padinAru chIIr]
Reply-To: vaidhyan@cn.ecn.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:25:06 GMT

This thread reminds me of a similar `pOtti' once sujatha himself
announced in one of his articles. Sujatha was writing about his
first story (which got published in some magazine in Trichy, I
guess) and wrote that "ennudaiya muthal kathaiyin pirathiyai (copy)
kaNdupidiththuth thrupavaRkku, enathu `paathi raajyamum' koduththu
en magaLaiyum kattiththaruvEn!". I do not know if anybody found
a copy of sujatha's first story and demanded him to keep his
promises. I am not sure if sujatha has a daughter, but he sure
can give `paathi raajyam' (one of sujatha's novels!).

Anbudan,

-Ramesh Vaidhyanathan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: kanth@cse.ogi.edu(Srikanth Meenakshi)
Subject: minnal varigal - 56
Organization: Mississippi State Univ.
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:07:37 GMT


	<Sorry, folks! Heavy snow over here prevented me from coming to
school yesterday. So here goes mv 56 and 57. Posting this from a friends'
account since our machine is down.>

Dec 31 minnal varigaL - 56

	"naaLaip pozhuthu enRum namakkena vaazhga ! adhai
	 nadatha oruvan undu kOvilil kaaNga !
	 vELai piRakkum enRu nambikkai koLga - endha
	 vEdhanaiyum maarum mEgathai pOla !!"

	 Contributed by Raj.

	
	 From "Ezhu swarangaLukkul...."
	
	 Posted by Srikanth Meenakshisundaram.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: anant@evax12.eng.fsu.edu
Subject: info needed on U.S. equivalent for C.A.
Organization: Famu/Fsu College of Engineering
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:05:30 EST

I need the following info.
What is the equivalent exam in U.S. for C.A. (in India)
for commerce graduates; and what are the requirements for
the same (e.g., does it require a commerce degree from a
University in U.S.?
Thanks in advance
Ananth
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: vaidhyan@ecn.purdue.edu (Ramesh Vaidhyanathan)
Subject: Re: NEWS: Temple for Kushboo in Tiruchi
Reply-To: vaidhyan@cn.ecn.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:14:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.071252.19046@news.ysu.edu>, ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:
|> 
|>     I heard that a temple for Kushboo is under construction
|> in Tiruchi. This temple, called `Kushambigal Devalayam', for
|> the actress Kushboo,  will be completed in January, according
|> to the trustees of the temple..

|> 
|> -- 
|> pax vobiscum,
|> sundara pandian
|> ah724@yfn.ysu.edu
|> 


`Kushboo mania' in TN has reached a new high. 
Here are some examples:


1). On DeepawaLi day, madras doordarshan carried a 
    3 hr or so long program exclusively on kushboo. 
    (Interviews with other movie personalities on kushboo).

2). `Ananda Vikatan' conducted a "kushboo kavithaip potti" 
    for its readers!

3). `Indian Express' published an article titled "Fat is 
    Beautiful" with photogrphs of kushboo. 

4). I beleive, a survey by `Ananda Vikatan' or `kumudham'
    has found that kushboo is the most ever popular heroine
    among TN people (kushboo has more popularity than
    padhmini, savithry, etc. ever had)!


Pogira pOkkaip parththaal, aduththa TN CM (namba) kushboo?!


Anbudan,

-Ramesh Vaidhyanathan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: trk@unislc.uucp (TR Krishnan)
Subject: Where is Ramanan, St.Marys, Madurai..?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 17:41:10 GMT

I am looking for Ramanan from Madurai who studied in St.Marys High school 
(1977 SSLC )
Please call Shyamsundar at 908-236-5084 if you know him 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: sri@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (a.natarajan)
Subject: Re: Carnatic Music
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:11:09 GMT

In article <C01387.6Jo@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> srini@ireq-num.hydro.qc.ca (Srinivasan K.) writes:
>In article <26DEC199209501738@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu>
> shivakl@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (LAKSHMANAN SHIVAKUMAR) writes:
>>Hello everybody,
>>
>>We have seen a lot of tamil movie songs being posted on the
>>net.  However, hardly any Carnatic songs are being posted.  It
>>maybe because most people interested in Carnatic music are
>>aware of the words of all the popular songs.  But still there
>>are a few of us who are interested in knowing the words for
>>some popular songs (viz Pancharatna Kirtanas, etc).  Could
>>someone please post a few popular songs on the net?
>>
>>Regards,
>>Shivakumar
>>
>>P.S:  Please do continue posting the movie songs as well.
>
>There is a newsgroup exclusively for classical music.
>rec.music.indian.classical. They are covering carnatic music already.
>
>I understand that a group of people in Malaysia have produced Tamil version
>of thyagaraja kirthanais. If some one has approach to those,
>it would be nice to see both the Telugu and Tamil versions in same
>postings. Feel free to post such things in soc.culture.tamil.
>If Tamil versions are posted in rec.music.indian.classical, some there
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>might get upset.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>K. Srinivasan at Hydro Quebec.


Well, if they get upset, let them! Occasionally, it is good to accelerate
the flow of blood in a human system!
If Tamil versions of Thyaagaraaja Keerthanais set to classical music of
                                                     ^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^
India get posted in rec.music.indian.classical
^^^^^                   ^^^^^ ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^^^ 
how could it violate the protocol?!

Respectfully

Natarajan
From: kanth@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Meenakshi Srikanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: minnal varigaL - 59
Date: 3 Jan 93 21:04:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47910
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


       "singaththin kaalkaL pazhuthu pattaalum seeRRam kuRaivathuNdO?
        sindhaiyum seyalum onRu pattalE maRRam kaaNpathuNdO? "

    	From "thangathilE oru kuRai..."
	
	Contributed by Kathiravan Krishnamurthy

	Posted by Srikanth Meenakshisundaram.
--------------------------------------------------------
Contributions Welcome. Please send YOUR minnal varigaL to
kanth@cse.ogi.edu. 
----------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: ram@artecon.sceard.com (Ramesh S. Rao)
Subject: *Tamil fonts for IBM PC?*
Organization: Artecon, Inc. - Carlsbad, CA
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:33:10 GMT


	Does anyone know where I can get more info
	about tamil fonts for an IBM/compatible
	PC with a Dot Matrix/PinHead/Laser Printer?

	Please email me and I shall summarise if there
	is sufficient interest.

	Thanx.

					*Ramesh*
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
From: rags@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Raghavan Jayaraman)
Subject: Re: Kazhi-nediladi Aciriya viruttam [padinAru chIIr]
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:45:14 GMT

Some serious stuff:-
	Pa [verse] can be classified generally into four categories viz.
aciriyappa, venpa, kalipa and vancipa [as per  Tolkappiyar]. They are
purely based on form and content. Now during the time of saiva-vaisnava
renaissance, the cannonists derived various derivative metres by
experimentation within the rules as stipulated by Tolkappiyar for the
pas[verses]. These are talicai,turai and viruttam and are generally called
'pavinams'. A aciriyyapa with viruttam derivative metre is called
aciriyya viruttam and so on. I will write about this in detail this after
noon.  Viruttam means repetition of an idea or word in sequence. Now think
back at the poem I posted.
	cIIr generally refers to this syllabic sequence. A word used in pa
line can be single or multiple syllables [thema vs themangani]. Depending
on the experimentation by cannonists to fit their verses to music [or to
make it euphonius] there are 15-20 variations observed in various works in
each of the combination of four verses and 3 pavinams. So a cIIr is
important in identification of any verse within a category.

----why don't I continue later----------

Now the answer to the trivia

It was me!!! NOpe just kidding!  It was Sujata under the title

"sarAsary manithanukku marabu kavignanin upadEsam"

As I promised Sundaramoorthy is entitled for a free california Date
['seedless']. Please send me the bill. Since the answer was partially
answered by Ramesh, U need to share it with him 

-good show guys!!!!!!!!!

Gigabyte
----------
PS:- If I imitate somebody then I wouldn't make it so easy on U in identifying
the original. It will be something like this.

"putti thugal padam jollu - ivaiyavum
ikkAla mAnAkarin panbena kol"
[culled from adikAram " ikkAla mAnAkar]
---------
PPS:- the fifth word in the first line is called thani-sol, which is a
derivative formed by saiva cannonists.
---------
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: kanth@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Meenakshi Srikanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: minnal varigaL  vote
Date: 2 Jan 93 23:10:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47894
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


Pl. Send in your votes to sivabala@u.washington.edu before Jan. 6th
1993.


_*********************_ VOTE _*************************_

  	      Choice 		minnal varigaL #

		1. 		   __
		2. 		   __
		3. 		   __
		4. 		   __
		5. 		   __

_*******************_ CUT HERE _************************_

	Choice 1. has 5 points, choice 2. has 4 and so on.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu,soc.culture.indian
From: kat@doe.carleton.ca (Kathiravan Krishnamurthi)
Subject: Re: Kuram Narayana on AndaaL
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:18:42 GMT

In <1992Dec28.182115.21350@news.ysu.edu> ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian) writes:


>In a previous article, narayana@oracorp.com (K. T. Narayana) says:

>>
>>The Bhakthi regime was a serious blow to the development of secular
>>Hinduism. Actaully idol worship as exemplified by the TN variety is
>>the worst communal form of Hinduism one can find. It rigidifies the
>>thought, sectarianizes the subjects, and worse makes people believe
>>that Moksha is something you can get by going to a temple. If one reads
>>the Thiruppavai, and the worship performed by AndaaL (we used to go
>>to the temple early morning every day in the Dhanurmasam period to
>>hear to the Thiruppavai), one clearly see that behind the facade
>>of total prapatthi of AndaaL (admirable that AndaaL is), there is a
>>total absense of any intellectualism. In other words, the religion
>>of the south immensely damaged the intellectualism and the secularism
>>of the Hinduism.
>> 
>>Thus the decline of Hinduism in the north, and the recent revival
>>of the brahminical vedantic tradition, along with the yagnas and
>>the yagas, is perhaps the best that we should hope for.
>>If it takes of, we will have more thinking Hindus than chest-beating
>>Hindus chanting "Ayappo-Swamyne-Ayappo" variety. Intellectualism
>>is the fulcrum of Hindu thought. It offered diversity, freedom thought,
>>and liberation of mind. More importantly, it offered individuality
>>of thought and action without the abiding structure.
>>
>>...kt
>>

     kuram is running loose. he should consult manu and brothers
before he can have any credence to comment about thamizh bhakti
thought. On the other hand he eulogizes the sankaraachaaryaa
without knowing that he was part of whole bhakti cult.


"ayappO swami ayappO" means more than shouting. The abstinence
and viratham that go along with that has more social
significance. 

  kuram, everybody is sick of your anti-thamizh attitude.

  ayyO pO-go to another network or start
  kuram.soc.cult

  kuram's Northern rational variety offered by RSS has
become a subject of ridicule by all rational people.


Kathiravan
From: kanth@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Meenakshi Srikanth)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Follow - A 'oru pakkak kathai'
Date: 26 Dec 92 01:02:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47724
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


			Follow
			------

Shanmugam was being followed. He had no doubt about it.They had lost
him a few minutes ago but found him again. Despite all the tension,
he allowed himself a smile.

He looked into the rearview mirror... yes...they
were there. Shanmugam looked at his watch and stepped on the
accelerator. Actually he wasn't going fast;but then how fast can you go
in the crowded Pondy bazaar at 5:00 pm in the evening?It wasn't his
fault - the vehicle could be arranged only now...He thought of where 
he was going...New home! New life!

He decided to avoid the crowded Pondy bazaar and turned into a bylane
and zoomed past the local postoffice, turned into Venkatnarayana road,
Dhandapani street, Motilal Street and just before hitting the Usman
road, thought to himself - ' I must have left them behind' and looked
into the mirror..Oh! They were still there, about 50 yards behind him..
He thought he had underestimated the chap..."Well, they will have to
be very sharp now! Usman road is an automobile jungle..!"

He knew he was a good driver but the guy who was following him seemed 
to know all the tricks as well! He had seen him very few times before
that evening. He used to be in a shabby uniform and from where Shanmugam
stayed, all he could see was him walking up to the desk, sign and leave.
Shanmugam never cared to find out who he was....till today evening.

A lot of things had gone wrong today evening... the vehicle itself
came late- when he meets the guys next, he is going to give them a piece
of his mind, he had to wait for it to be loaded and he set off with it
right in time for this chap, now behind him, came into the scene...

He was now in West Mambalam..and they were still behind him. He had 
taken very curvaceous routes and they had still kept at it. But he
had neared his destination. He wondered what he would do once he 
reaches the place. There will be a lot of work waiting for him...some
from the vehincle behind him....

He saw his destination, looked into the mirror( they were a bare 25
yards behind him now) ,slammed the brakes and got down. 

	"paravaaillayE, Muthu! nallaa vandi ottaRiyE! EdhO un 
dhayavaale orE trip la saamaan ellaathayum shift paNNiyaachu! ippo
oru kai koduthiyaannaa, ellathaiyum pudhu veetula arrange paNNidalaam!
grahapravEshathukku maRakkama vandhudu, enna?" said he looking at 
the office peon.

< I tried to write it in the typical 'oru pakkak kathai' format
of kumudham.... Well, I tried.....>

Posted by Srikanth Meenakshisundaram.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu,soc.culture.indian
From: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Subject: Kuram Narayana on AndaaL
Reply-To: ah724@yfn.ysu.edu (Sundara Pandian)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:21:15 GMT
Expires: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 05:00:00 GMT


In a previous article, narayana@oracorp.com (K. T. Narayana) says:

>
>The Bhakthi regime was a serious blow to the development of secular
>Hinduism. Actaully idol worship as exemplified by the TN variety is
>the worst communal form of Hinduism one can find. It rigidifies the
>thought, sectarianizes the subjects, and worse makes people believe
>that Moksha is something you can get by going to a temple. If one reads
>the Thiruppavai, and the worship performed by AndaaL (we used to go
>to the temple early morning every day in the Dhanurmasam period to
>hear to the Thiruppavai), one clearly see that behind the facade
>of total prapatthi of AndaaL (admirable that AndaaL is), there is a
>total absense of any intellectualism. In other words, the religion
>of the south immensely damaged the intellectualism and the secularism
>of the Hinduism.
> 
>Thus the decline of Hinduism in the north, and the recent revival
>of the brahminical vedantic tradition, along with the yagnas and
>the yagas, is perhaps the best that we should hope for.
>If it takes of, we will have more thinking Hindus than chest-beating
>Hindus chanting "Ayappo-Swamyne-Ayappo" variety. Intellectualism
>is the fulcrum of Hindu thought. It offered diversity, freedom thought,
>and liberation of mind. More importantly, it offered individuality
>of thought and action without the abiding structure.
>
>...kt
>

-- 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian
From: kmurali2@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Address
Date: 31 Dec 92 14:27:25 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

Hi Netters,

Happy New year!

I am looking for the address or Telephone of Admission Office at Magarishi 
University in Iowa. A Friend of mine is planning to get the necessary forms
from the admissions office.


Please e-mail it to me, if you know their address or t/p #.

Thank you, 
Murali.k
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Sorry folks,I made a mistake in one of the film names

Maasilla nilavae, is from Ambigapathy