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From: kenny@world.std.com (Kenneth R Crudup)
Subject: Re: Having a life without a car
Organization: Software Tool&Die, (Boston), MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:28:29 GMT

I'm still young. I'm very single. I'm no loner. I need a car. No way around it.

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From: gsmith@bbn.com (Graeme Smith)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Having a life without a car
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:44:57 GMT
Distribution: ne
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bsmith@serverx.osf.org (Bruce Smith) writes:

|>In article <1992Apr8.144601.3854@eff.org|> rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis) writes:
|>|>	Actually, Kenny, it *is* possible to have a life without a
|>|>car.

|>I have a car (a truck, actually). I also have a bicycle. I use both of them,
|>and sometimes I walk. Occasionally, I put my canoe on top of the truck and
|>take it somewhere to go fishing. At such times, I very happy I'm not
|>car-less. Sometimes I put the bicycle in the truck and drive somewhere to
|>ride it -- somewhere less congested than here.

..So far I've managed to survive without the acoustic motorbike..

|>If one can get around without a car, fine -- do it, then. Some of us need or
|>want the things, even though we're aware of their drawbacks. The ownership
|>or lack of ownership of an internal-combustion-beast does not intrinsically
|>make one a better or worse person, anyway. Now, can we get back to
|>slamming the Registry and any other deserving state agencies?

I second that..

|>Bruce Smith
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From: allyn@netcom.com (Mark Allyn)
Subject: Re: more registry fees - A Call to Arms
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 18:23:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ne

> WHY would you take ham radio gear to an opera?

I dont use the ham radio gear in the opera. I use it while riding my
bicycle. Just like using ham radio gear in your car. 

I take it inside with me because I dont want someone to steal it. Stealing
ham radio gear is a federal offense I want to spare someone from having
to deal with a federal rap as well as saving myself from buying new
ham gear.

Mark Allyn
From: gjc@mitech.com (George J. Carrette)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Best Cruising Roads in Eastern New England?
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:22:54 GMT
Organization: Mitech Corporation, Concord MA

Take route 2 west until you get to the area of the Quabin.
There are two roads south, one east and one west of the Quabin.
The one on the west is faster. A nice smooth road with lots
of curves.

It is the road that some high ranking person in a previous Mass. administration
got a ticket traveling something like 120 MPH on!

Nice road.

Then, once you go south you can visit the Windsor Damn. 
By taking route 9.

Then, either take route 9 back to Boston. Or go down to route 90,
and take the Mass Pike back.

-- The entire loop is something like 180 miles. --
From: rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: More like WEEI every day
Date: 14 Apr 1992 18:25:13 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: spcsun25.bbn.com

But I do wonder what's going to happen when the Christian
Science Monitor broadcasting system goes pfffffft later 
this week.  WBUR runs their radio show several times
each day.

-- 
Ron Newman		rnewman@bbn.com
From: sean@think.com (Sean Colbath)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: more registry fees - A Call to Arms
Date: 8 Apr 1992 15:48:14 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge, MA (USA)
Distribution: ne
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In article <LOTTO.92Apr8081612@laura.harvard.edu> lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>I ride a motorcycle in Boston, year round.  I enjoy it, it does not
>present any major problems 360 days out of the year - especially
>downtown.  Bicycling or motorcycling may not be an option for you, but
>don't impose your limitations on others.

I don't believe I was.  To be truthful, given the choice, I would not
travel *AT ALL* to get to work.  I would stay in the comfort of my own
home, logged in remotely, listening to my stereo, eating meals out of my
kitchen, and causing no pollution or road congestion.  Unfortunately, in
today's society that is not yet an option.

>Sean> Tell me, is the opera very enjoyable if it decides to downpour half way
>Sean> there, wrecking your suit, or if you come out afterwords and find all
>Sean> your ham radio gear gone?
>
>If you prepare so poorly that these things happen to you, I can see
>how you would be disillusioned to the sport.  Perhaps you should
>reconsider what mental skills are involved in riding?

I don't see where preparation quite comes into it.  Sure, you can always
wear your So'Wester every time your ride your bike, but the poster's
attitude seemed to be "I ride my bike under any circumstances uphill both
ways to weddings, the opera and the academy awards, and yer a wimp if you
can't do the same."  While that may be a commendable attitude in San Jose,
IMHO if you do that in Boston you must be a martyr, and the poster is
somewhat ignorant of the road and weather conditions here.  

And it still won't keep you dry, planning or no planning, if it rains
unexpectedly or a truck splashes you or simply douses you with grit and
grime on your way to your destination.

I would love bike riding -- if there were no other vehicles on the road.
It was marvellous when I lived in Maine.  It might be nice if I lived in
China, where there are several orders of magnitude fewer cars and the city
is more amenable to bikes.

-- 
Sean Colbath
sean@think.com					...harvard!think!sean
"...and now for something completely different..."
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Having a life without a car
Originator: rita@eff.org
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:46:01 GMT

	Actually, Kenny, it *is* possible to have a life without a
car.  Occasionally it can be inconvenient, but I exist quite happily
from day to day without one.  Of course, I live within a block of
a t stop, and work within a few blocks of another t stop (if I'm
lazy; I'm actually within walking distance to EFF).  I have grocery
stores and everything else nearby.  I can usually deal with any need
for a car by calling a cab or renting.  Of course, it just so happens that my
life is set up right now in such a way that a car would be more of
a hassle than a convenience.  I don't expect that to be the case for
most people, and even for me in the nearish future.  Oh, but I don't
ride a bike around here (I think I'd be dead real soon).  I walk and
T it everywhere.



-- 
Rita Marie Rouvalis              rita@eff.org 
Electronic Frontier Foundation   | We make out of the quarrel with others,
155 Second Street                | rhetoric, but of the quarrel with 
Cambridge, MA 02141 617-864-0665 | ourselves, poetry.  -- W.B. Yeats
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From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: more registry fees - A Call to Arms
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:38:46 GMT

lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:

>I ride a motorcycle in Boston, year round.  I enjoy it, it does not
>present any major problems 360 days out of the year - especially
>downtown.  Bicycling or motorcycling may not be an option for you, but
>don't impose your limitations on others.

I'm pretty sure by "biking" he didn't mean motorcycling.  Most people
who haven't ridden motorcycles don't think of it as biking (I understand,
because I do ride a bike (motorcycle) when I have access to one).
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From: vail@tegra.COM (Johnathan Vail)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: Watch out for speed traps in MA
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:19:58 GMT
Organization: Tegra, Inc., Billerica, MA
In-reply-to: hrt@utne.aosg.gsf.dec.com's message of 9 Apr 92 15:16:59 GMT


In article <1992Apr9.151659.10028@aosg.gsf.dec.com> hrt@utne.aosg.gsf.dec.com (Henry R. Tumblin AOSG) writes:

   A friend forwarded this to me:


	  WHERE HAVE ALL THE MA STATE POLICE BEEN FOR THE LAST 2 MONTHS ?

   Have you been asking yourself this question? Would you like to know the answer?
   Read on:
	     In School with a new sophisticated speed measurement device called
   the IRD. It is an Infra-Red (heat detection) device that measures speed accur-
   ately to .1 MPH. It is a small round device that is being installed in grey/
   silver/blue 1992 &93 unmarked Mustangs and a limited number of State Cruisers.
   It was rumored to appear on April 1st. First known siteing was yesterday 
>>>                            ^^^^^^^^^----Uh Huh(tm)
   4/8/92.There is presently NO KNOWN DEFENSE against it OTHER THAN obeying the speed
>>>^^^^^^ a week late...
   limit. 

I'll believe it when I see it.  Unless maybe you mean the IR laser
"radar" units that have been in use elsewhere.

jv <- very skeptical

"Don't Ever Antagonize The Horn"
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From: brennan@merk.com (Rich Brennan)
Subject: Re: Having a life without a car
Summary: march/april summary of ne.general
Organization: Technology Partners, Inc.
Distribution: ne
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 16:27:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.050126.25879@redsox.bsw.com> campbell@redsox.bsw.com (Larry Campbell) writes:
>
>In article <BMEDrI.3KI@world.std.com>, kenny@world.std.com (Kenneth R Crudup) writes:
>> I'm still young. I'm very single. I'm no loner. I need a car. No way around it.
>
> "I'm still young. I'm very single. I'm no loner. I need a waffle iron.
> No way around it."

I've learned to adapt. While I believe eating microwave waffles is pure
suicide, I think that if your life is flexible enough, you can get along
just fine with the toaster variety waffles. They are  especially good
when loaded up with ham radio gear and eaten at the opera against the
traffic during the winter driving months and why don't those bikers
respect traffic laws but the other day I saw a car turn left right in
front of a bike no wonder the insurance is so high and there's not enough
money for bike paths and I think the Demorepublitarians stink especially
those guys that come down from new hamster and get all the good parking
spots 'cause everyone knows that they aren't paying their fair share of
don't you hate Sununununu too but it's okay to go skiing and of course
there's the outlet stores and maybe we can annex new hamster at least the
mountains and the outlet stores.



Rich
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brennan@merk.com	...!uunet!merk!brennan		Rich Brennan
From: gonzalez@bbn.com (Jim Gonzalez)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Bike Path Safety
Date: 14 Apr 1992 18:22:46 GMT
Reply-To: gonzalez@BBN.COM (Jim Gonzalez)
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In article <kuk5jhINNkg9@news.bbn.com> rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:

>I hope they'll install some lighting.  A small section of this path
>has existed for some time, leading from Alewife station north to
>some side streets in Arlington (which eventually take you to 
>Lake Street).   After the sun goes down, this area becomes very dark,
>and I always fear that I will run into a pedestrian (or another cyclist).

The section to which Ron refers was the scene of a rape about a year
ago.  It happened around the same time that another woman (Dr. Frug, I
think) was stabbed to death outside her home near Harvard Square, and
other assaults occurred at/around Alewife and Porter.  At the "public
safety meeting" that this rash of incidents prompted, it was stated
that the city and MBTA were negotiating the assignment of a police
officer to cover that path full-time at night (before the incident,
MBTA cruisers would "coop" there periodically, giving some people the
feeling that the area was covered).

The concern I have about the railway bike path is the same I have about
the proposed pedestrian bridge over the B&M yard, the Longwood hospital
area, the parkland along the Charles, and BU's west campus.  These areas,
even when well lit, are hazardous at night, as several people I know
will attest.  If you get into trouble out there, there is no one around 
to help or call the cops.  Assigned patrols (probably from the local 
police forces), proper landscaping (no tall bushes near the path to 
conceal muggers), and emergency call boxes would go a long way to 
reducing the crime potential.

				-Jim.
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From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: more registry fees - A Call to Arms
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Distribution: ne
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:35:17 GMT

Someone wrote:
>>P.S. Happeness is riding a bicycle loaded down with ham radio gear 6 
>>miles in the rain....

Reminds me of the time a cop pulled me over while (I was) riding a bike
during a blizzard in Conway NH.  When I told him "he couldn't stop me from
riding", he said he'd arrest me for "disturbing the peace"  hehehe!

... so I bought a snowmobile to commute to work :-)


Isn't (WASN'T) YOUTH wonderful?!?   :-) :-) ;-)



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From: arnaud@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (alain.arnaud)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: a driving law question
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:18:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbfsb.1992Apr6.151839.16829
Distribution: ne
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr4.222005.26428@spdcc.com> rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:
>In article <56876@cup.portal.com> James_J_Kowalczyk@cup.portal.com writes:
>
>>Contrary to popular belief, State Farm does operate in Massachusetts.
>>I know because I have my insurance from them.  They will cover you if
>>you move to Mass. from out of state and had a State Farm policy in your
>>previous state.  However, I think they only have one office for all of
>>Mass. (in Framingham).  
>
>	I was told by a State Farm agent that they do not.  My roommate
>got a letter the day we arrived in the state saying that he had to 
>*immediately* find a new company if he was going to be in Massachusetts.
>If you managed to fool them or work something out - you're the first 
>person I've heard of that has.
>
>	I have my own beef against them based on renter's insurance
>which they failed to own up to when my rented house was broken into.
>All I can say is that with State Farm more than ANY other insurance comp.
>I have ever had dealings with, get EVERYTHING in writing, dated and
>notarized.  It's amazing the amount of "never received mail" they
>seem to have...
>
>BBC

I disagree.

I have been a State Farm customer for over 15 years, and when I bought a second
car in 85, I insured it with them. I never had any problems. They are prompt
and courteous. When my car was totaled a couple of years ago, they sent me
a check within three days. 

Alan
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From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Subject: Re: How real are Boston parking ticket threats for NH residents?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<BMG6q7.7yu@world.std.com> <6257@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>
	<ku9ajhINN7jm@news.bbn.com>
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:47:11 GMT

In article <ku9ajhINN7jm@news.bbn.com> rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) writes:

   One reason that Boston is more enlightened than a lot of
   other places is that the local police totally ignore us bicyclists.
   This often allows us to move faster than automobile traffic,
   since we can proceed (carefully) through red lights, go (cautiously)
   against one-way traffic, ride between lanes of stopped traffic,
   and so forth.

Bicyclists like you give the rest of us a bad name.

Bicyclists must obey all of the traffic laws that motor vehicle
drivers must obey.  That means stopping at red lights, riding in the
correct direction, and staying in your lane.

If you do not do these things, then you are BREAKING THE LAW.  The
fact that you are less likely to be ticketed does not make what you
are doing any less WRONG.  You make the roads less safe for everyone
(for example, for the pedestrians who have to worry about getting run
down {and yes, it DOES happen} by bicyclists even when a sold WALK is
showing), and you cause motor vehicle drivers to become upset with the
bicyclists, so that they will be less respectful of them in the
future.

Now, I'm just as disgusted with some of the laws in this state and
this country as the next guy.  I'm just as uncomfortable about people
using "It's the law!" as a justification for something.  However, in
this case, following the law DOES make sense, and breaking the law
DOES have ill effects.

Fuming about one of my pet peeves,

-- 
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From: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: How real are Boston parking ticket threats for NH residents?
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:06:44 GMT
Reply-To: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)
Distribution: ne
Organization: Group 45, MIT Lincoln Lab.
Originator: ryba@ll.mit.edu (Marty Ryba)


In article <_8rj3q#.allyn@netcom.com>, allyn@netcom.com (Mark Allyn) writes:
|> PS Happyness is getting rid of the car and using a bicycle. I have never
|>    heard of parking tickets for bicycles. If you cant do that and you
|>    need to go to Boston, drive to one of the numerous satalite MBTA 
|>    station and take the T in. Dont hassle with Boston driving/parking.
|> 
    Well, I suggest not biking in Philadelphia then....It is illegal to lock
your bike to a parking meter, tree, etc...and there aren't any bike racks.
A friend got a ticket for locking his bike to a meter *despite* the fact he
fed the meter!!!

  Talk about damned if you do.....

-- 
Dr. Marty Ryba                |
Group 101                     |
MIT Lincoln Laboratory        |
ryba@ll.mit.edu               |
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From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: More like WEEI every day
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 17:56:45 GMT

I miss WEEI even less than I used to.  Bob Oakes showed up on WBUR in
February; he seems to have drawn the Tsongas beat, so he isn't heard from
too frequently :-)

And now Roseanne Powellick (I never could spell these Welsh names) has
appeared doing the links from the studio.

They don't sound right though.  The format doesn't give Oakes, in
particular, enough time to do what he is best at: reporting the latest
3-alarm fire from Dorchester.
-- 
David Brooks				dbrooks@osf.org
Systems Engineering, OSF		uunet!osf.org!dbrooks
From: fmbutt@mrbt.sw.stratus.com (Farooq Butt)
Newsgroups: ne.general
Subject: Re: more registry fees - A Call to Arms
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:20:15 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Apr8.223131.7705@unixland.natick.ma.us> bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser) writes:
>tarl@sw.stratus.com (Tarl Neustaedter) writes:
>>Not in Massachussets. Riding a bicycle in Mass. traffic is equivalent to
>>committing suicide. 
>
>That's right.  I spend $500 on a bicycle a couple of years ago, and have
>only ridden it about a hundred miles!  Part of the reason, granted, was
>laziness, but the biggest reason was the fact that it is SOOO unpleasant
>to ride on the roads around here!  (Natick MA).  Of course the pothole-
>ridden roads don't help either when you're riding a racing-style bike.
>Maybe one of those "mountain bikes" with big tires would be better!
>-- 



Hear, hear!  As an ex-Virginian, I can, too, attest that riding a 
bike in most of "suburban" MA. is death.  Frugal (aka "cheap") 
New Englanders apparently do not consider bike paths a useful
thing to fund with their taxes.  While I can understand pinching 
one's pennies in a recession like this, to my knowledge this sorta
"frill" has never been funded in this state _except_ in a very 
few locals near Boston and "The People's Republic" :-) of Cambridge...
The only place I could bike out on from my apt. are RT's 9 and 20
YEAAAAH! There aren't even any sidewalks in most towns, let alone
bike trails...









fmb













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From: bill@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: Having a life without a car
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Distribution: ne
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:49:52 GMT

brennan@merk.com (Rich Brennan) writes:

>In article <1992Apr12.050126.25879@redsox.bsw.com> campbell@redsox.bsw.com (Larry Campbell) writes:
>>
>>In article <BMEDrI.3KI@world.std.com>, kenny@world.std.com (Kenneth R Crudup) writes:
>>> I'm still young. I'm very single. I'm no loner. I need a car. No way around it.
>>
>> "I'm still young. I'm very single. I'm no loner. I need a waffle iron.
>> No way around it."

>I've learned to adapt. While I believe eating microwave waffles is pure
>suicide, I think that if your life is flexible enough, you can get along
>just fine with the toaster variety waffles. They are  especially good
>when loaded up with ham radio gear and eaten at the opera against the
>traffic during the winter driving months and why don't those bikers

... only if you are wearing shorts and a t-shirt (wet and muddy of course)
at the opera!   :-)

... besides, anyone with a REAL life wouldn't have time to make
REAL waffles!

:_)

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From: adam@endor.uucp (Adam Shostack)
Subject: Re: more registry fees - A Call to Arms
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University
Distribution: ne
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 22:18:16 GMT

In article <1930@transfer.stratus.com> tarl@sw.stratus.com (Tarl Neustaedter) writes:
>In article <nxljkbl.allyn@netcom.com>, allyn@netcom.com (Mark Allyn) writes:
>> [use a bicycle]
>> It can be done. It is good for your health. 

>Not in Massachussets. Riding a bicycle in Mass. traffic is equivalent to
>committing suicide. 

Not really.  Its more on the order of bungee jumping  :) .. I've been doing
it for years without a problem.  I'm fairly cautious, and ride quite a
bit.  It can be done, and in Cambridge and Boston is often faster than
a car.  Healthier too.
Adam Shostack 					adam@das.harvard.edu

What a terrible thing to have lost one's .sig.  Or not to have a .sig
at all.  How true that is.      
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From: campbell@redsox.bsw.com (Larry Campbell)
Subject: Re: Having a life without a car
Organization: The Boston Software Works, Inc.
Distribution: ne
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 05:01:26 GMT


In article <BMEDrI.3KI@world.std.com>, kenny@world.std.com (Kenneth R Crudup) writes:
> I'm still young. I'm very single. I'm no loner. I need a car. No way around it.

 "I'm still young. I'm very single. I'm no loner. I need a waffle iron.
 No way around it."
-- 
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campbell@redsox.bsw.com    Boston, Massachusetts 02109 (USA)
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