HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Tim Starr)
Subject: Re: QUESTION
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 10:28:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.183702.11567@cs.cornell.edu> turney@cs.cornell.edu (Jenn Turney) writes:
}I've just moved to Pennsylvania (Wilkes-Barre) after 6 years at
}Cornell.  I spend my winter holidays with relatives in Lowville, NY (a
}nickel to the first person to give the correct pronunciation) and
}summers on Lake Ontario, near Chaumont Bay (another pronunciation
}trick).

"Low" rhymes with "loud," although it's named after General Low, whose name
rhymed with "hoe."  You go to Lowville?  My maternal relatives live in that
area.  My grandparents lived in Glenfield, my aunts live in Turin, Lyons
Falls, Boonville, etc.

I just visited Lowville, but I wish it was for a happier occasion: my grand-
mother's funeral.  Grandpa died a few years ago.

Tim Starr - Renaissance Now! - Think Universally, Act Selfishly
starr@genie.slhs.udel.edu

"True greatness consists in the use of a powerful understanding to enlighten
oneself and others." - Francois Marie Arouet Voltaire
From: hurf@boa.graphics.cornell.edu (Hurf Sheldon)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Would you consider Kingston Upstate
Date: 17 Dec 1992 17:56:11 GMT
Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: boa.graphics.cornell.edu

	Last Saturday Night live featured Glen CLose who told us all
	she lived upstate and brought all the towns trades people in
	to the show to sing on stage (really - it was kinda nice).
	I was trying to figure out where she was from when I recognized
	the grocer from Bedford. So in this case 'upstate' is about
	35mi north of NYC...
	
	BTW - Kingston is just 3 miles south east of paradise.

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From: jerry@ee.rochester.edu (Jerry Seward)
Subject: Re: Great New Group
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:05:53 GMT

In article <marnie.724538947@ajax> marnie@ajax.mitre.org (Marnie R. Salisbury) writes:
>
>Wow-- there's so many of us upstaters out there.
>
>> Has anyone heard of Dolgeville?
>
>Yes.  I'm from Poland.  Have you heard of it?
>
Sure, I'm from Floyd.  Have you heard of that?

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From: marnie@ajax.mitre.org (Marnie R. Salisbury)
Subject: Great New Group
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:49:07 GMT


Wow-- there's so many of us upstaters out there.

> Has anyone heard of Dolgeville?

Yes.  I'm from Poland.  Have you heard of it?

Marnie

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From: koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz)
Subject: Re: Great New Group
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:58:17 GMT

In article <marnie.724538947@ajax> marnie@ajax.mitre.org (Marnie R. Salisbury) writes:

>Wow-- there's so many of us upstaters out there.

>> Has anyone heard of Dolgeville?

>Yes.  I'm from Poland.  Have you heard of it?

>Marnie

sure have... both of them...  I pass near/through them on my way from Rome to
Johnstown (I only bowl at the Perry Lanes in Johnstown).

Walt K.
-- militant Roman



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From: jhh@sprite.berkeley.edu (John H. Hartman)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Would you consider Kingston Upstate
Date: 16 Dec 1992 05:26:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: loiter.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Kingston

In article <1992Dec15.125647.7396@nosc.mil> koziarz@halibut.nosc.mil (Walter A. Koziarz) writes:
>Nope, absolutely nothing south of the Governor Thomas E. Dewey Thruway is
>'Upstate'.  Oh, forget the 'San Diego' address... I'm a Roman.
>
>Walt K.

I don't buy it. The dividing line between Upstate and Downstate is
somewhere around Newburgh, although I'll concede that maybe Downstate
has crept a bit north since my youth in Binghamton.  The Southern
Tier definitely has more in common with Syracuse, Albany, Rochester,
Buffalo et al. than with the city and the island.

Sure miss those speidies...

John

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From: krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes)
Subject: Define Up-State
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:54:26 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5


I grew up in Buffalo and always considered it to be Western New York. What
(where) is Up-State ?

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From: selvin@nynexst.com (Al Selvin)
Subject: Troy
Reply-To: selvin@nynexst.com
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 18:14:16 GMT


My wife and I walked around Troy for most of a day last year.
Despite the venom heaped on its head ("Troylets"), we thought it
was a neat town. Old houses, evocative architecture, etc.

Why do people revile Troy so much?


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From: braun@falcon.ece.cmu.edu (Jennifer Braun)
Subject: Re: Would you consider Kingston Upstate
Originator: braun@falcon.ece.cmu.edu
Keywords: Kingston
Reply-To: braun@falcon.ece.cmu.edu (Jennifer Braun)
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:03:41 GMT


|> Subject: Re: Would you consider Kingston Upstate
|> Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:54:41 GMT
|> 
|> Hey now, that's a good question:  What do people here consider to be "upstate"?
|> I'm from Syracuse, and generally consider everything north of Westchester
|> County to be Upstate.
||> 

boy, amazing how much traffic occurs in a new newsgroup.  i would have to say
north of Syracuse (and generally the turnpike) is upstate.  any other
opinions?  :-)

as for myself, all the relatives are from Carthge, Lowville, Watertown,
Ogdensburg (now that's upstate!).  i used to live in Rochester (nowhere near
upstate).  and my family has a place on Brantingham
Lake (anyone know where that is? if so look me up over the summer).

of all the places i've lived and travelled (and there have been many)
upstate New York ranks near if not at the top.  each individual has there
own opinion of what culture is, but if it includes beauty, serenity,
availability of sports, theatre, you name it...upstate NY qualifies.

oh well, back to work (now i'm in Pittsburgh, not nearly upstate NY :-)  )

i look forward to keeping up with upstate happenings through all you new
yorkers there to tell me about it.  

later.

jennifer


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From: eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com (Erik Radmall)
Subject: Re: Best Rochester Restaurants?
Reply-To: eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:51:35 GMT

In article 92Dec16093730@amber.ssd.csd.harris.com, brent@ssd.csd.harris.com (Brent Benson) writes:
> eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com (Erik Radmall) writes:
> 									Ratings (1-5)
> Type			Name			Specialties		Food/Service/Ambience
> --------------	----------------------	--------------------	---------------------
> American		Hogan's Hideaway				3/3/4	
> American		Rorbach's		House brew		4/3/3
> Indian		India House					4/3/3
> 
> my entry:
> 
> Indescribable		Nick's			Garbage Plate		1/1/5
> 

Oh, how could I have forgotten the famous Garbage Plate? For those of you that don't know about Nick Tahoe's specialty: it's an admixture of a burger patty/fries/macaroni/pork/unknown, heavily laced with salt and pepper and other unknown spices, and slopped together in a styrofoam box. Gauranteed to accelerate the development any latent gastrointestinal disorders, as well as create totally new ones. I would love to see this become a national icon like Buffalo wings -- "We serve 'Rochester style Garbage Pla




tes' here."

> 
> 
> --
> Brent Benson                     
> Harris Computer Systems



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From: doug@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Doug)
Subject: Re: Troy
Reply-To: doug@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Doug)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: na 
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 01:08:16 GMT

And how long have you been drinking Genny Cream Ale? Let me guess, 
about 6 years. :)  

I actually agree with you, Troy isn't all that bad, but compared to the
surrounding towns, Troy isn't great.



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From: selvin@nynexst.com (Al Selvin)
Subject: Maybe on the fringes of upstate
Reply-To: selvin@nynexst.com
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:02:16 GMT


I just moved to Pawling, NY, in southern Dutchess County, just past the
end of the suburban sprawl at I-84. Still country, still beautiful.  We
moved there from Queens (Forest Hills), neither country nor beautiful.
Still adjusting. Life is better though.

In Pawling, we have a great music club (the Towne Crier), which
would've had Bela Fleck last night but it was canceled due to the 14"
of snow we had over the weekend, and a great restaurant (Mckinney &
Doyle), which is as good as anywhere else I've ever eaten. People are
genuine and friendly.  The night we moved in, we had a drumming jam in
our living room with the friends who helped, which we couldn't have
done in our apartment in Queens.  Such is culture so far.

Is Pawling upstate? It's not the suburbs, at least yet. It's in the hills
("mountains"); we're about 1100 feet up. It's about 65 miles north of
midtown. We always thought of New Paltz as upstate; if it is, we are.
From: kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com (Steve Kreckman)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Best Rochester Restaurants?
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:44:31 GMT
Reply-To: kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com (Steve Kreckman)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Dec17.172350.1105@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> jay@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Jay Novello) writes:

>
>!!!  A Nick's Garbage Plate !!!  You really jogged my memory with that
>one...it's been ten years... what's on it?  Hot dogs, fried potatoes,
>and, and, ...???  what?
>

... Grease! A huge ladlefull of it, a true culinary tour-de-force!


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From: houston@eso.mc.xerox.com (Sam Houston)
Subject: Upstate Keeps Moving
Reply-To: houston@eso.mc.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation, Rochester NY
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:47:05 GMT

When I was growing up in Poughkeepsie (Dutchess County) in the
40s and 50s I guess we considered that area upstate.  Go back
there now, and it feels-and looks-like an extension of
NYC. People even *commute* from there to NYC. 

Then in the 60s when I was going to college in
Troy, that really felt like upstate.  Today it's just super
urban sprawl all the way to Lake George-and beyond (albeit
better than the Dutchess county area).  It's also the 
home of one of the most corrupt state legislatures in the
country--most of whom come from downstate.  

Then when I moved to Rochester in the late 60s I felt
very upstate--and you know--I still do!!  I feel an affinity
with all the other upstate burgs-Syracuse, Buffalo, Utica,
Binghamton, Elmira, Amsterdam, Jamestown, etc.

But go north of Lake Ontario (at least over as far as Amsterdam)
-further north as you go east toward the tri cities-and that's *North
Country*; a very special part of upstate.  These people hate
(or at least barely tolerate) tourists, the ADK, DEC, BMWs,
and lord knows what else.  It's a nice place to backpack
tho...

--------------
sam houston (Xerox, Rochester)
From: mcmahon@Tgv.Com (John 'Fast-Eddie/FuzzFace' McMahon)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: "You're from New York City??"
Date: 16 Dec 1992 17:12:07 GMT
Organization: TGV, Incorporated in Santa Cruz, California, USA
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mcmahon@Tgv.Com (John 'Fast-Eddie/FuzzFace' McMahon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: code-z.tgv.com


In article <CBOLTON.92Dec15224304@csd475a.erim.org>, cbolton@csd475a.erim.org (Chris Bolton) writes:
=>
=>  My grandmother used to live in "the foothills of the Allegany(sp?) 
=>mountains".  I'd tell someone that I was off to visit her in New York,
=>and they'd always say something like, "Stay off the subway".  So then I'd
=>tell them that I was speaking of New York state, not the city and they'd
=>say, "Oh, well, wherever you're going I hope you don't get mugged". 

When I lived in Middletown, I often got the same class of advice when
I mentioned I was going to NYC (60 miles away).  Typically I found the
advice was usually a lot more paranoid than it needed to be.

The best advise I got from someone about NYC was from my dad... 
"Know where you are" and "Don't look like a tourist".  I never had
a problem. 

--
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TGV, Incorporated            () "Any networking problem can be solved by
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Santa Cruz, California 95060 ()  Twisted Pair (UTP)"   
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From: jts2363@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: upstate ARTS
Reply-To: jts2363@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:58:00 GMT

Any upstate NY artists or arts organizations out there?  This is an ideal forum
for exchanging info on upstate arts activities.  Geographical distances tend to
be a bit prohibitive, so reviews of shows would help people decide what's worth
physically visiting.  Rochester has a so-so arts scene (don't mean to offend
anyone.  Not really commenting on quality here, just volume), but enough to
keep one busy.  I go to R.I.T., which has a huge photography program,
film&video, graphic design, imaging science, etc.  The Visual Studies Workshop
is here, which has a fairly fabulous artist's book program and media arts
center.  The George Eastman House has a tremendous archive of photography and
film; unfortunately their collection is mainly historical, they don't collect
much recent work.  We have one alternative arts space, Pyramid Arts Center,
which is fairly small, but they do decent work.  Unfortunately, I've been
really busy with school junk lately, so haven't had a chance to see the shows
that are up now.  After Christmas break I'll post something.

Anyone on the east coast might be interested in Montage 93, which is a huge
conference happening here next summer.  It's going to cover the intersection of
the Arts and imaging technology.  There will be an entire month of activities
(lectures, demos, symposiums, shows, etc.) from July 11 to August 7 (I think
those dates are accurate).  The organizing body is VSW, but they are receiving
*major* funding from Kodak, Xerox, and The City of Rochester. The prof I TA for
is on the committe that is selecting lecturers, and it seems like they are
going to pull off the conference very smoothly.  I know Brenda Laurel has
confirmed, they are working on getting Jaron Lanier, I think they were trying
to get Negroponte from the Media Lab, but he seems more difficult to reach than
god.  I can get the other names if anyone is interested.  The city has adopted
"The Imaging Center of the Universe" or something like that as their motto, so
they are quite serious about all this.  All the museums in town are
participating, so there is going to be plenty of stuff to see. Film and video
screenings, VR demos, installations, etc. etc.  

If anyone knows what is going on at Hallwalls or Squeaky Wheel in January, let
me know, I haven't gotten calendars.  

					-Jason
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From: uajg@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Andrew Germaine)
Subject: Re: Great New Group
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 16:41:14 GMT

In article <1gqrecINNgse@agate.berkeley.edu> ddgarcia@coons.berkeley.edu (Dan Garcia) writes:
>rdetweil@boi.hp.com (Richard Detweiler) writes:
>|> jerry@ee.rochester.edu (Jerry Seward) writes:
>|> >marnie@ajax.mitre.org (Marnie R. Salisbury) writes:
>|> >>
>|> >>Wow-- there's so many of us upstaters out there.
>|> >>
>|> >>> Has anyone heard of Dolgeville?
>|> >>
>|> >>Yes.  I'm from Poland.  Have you heard of it?
>|> >>
>|> >Sure, I'm from Floyd.  Have you heard of that?
>|> >
>|> 
>|> I'll call and raise you Gallupville.  Have you heard of that?
>
>Howabout Cooperstown - home to the Baseball Hall of Fame?
>
Ill see your cooperstown and raise you Utica!  (who the fuck would want it,
i dont know)...

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From: jsteiner@reed.edu (Jon Edward Steiner)
Subject: about alt.culture.long-island
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:27:47 GMT

To: 
Subject: Re: 
Newsgroups:alt.culture.ny-upstate 

As a Lon Guylander, I think whoever said that culture on Long Island 
is a futile cause is absolutely correct. None of my friends who went 
to other states wanted to return. 

There's been some talk about building a bridge off of Montauk to 
Connecticut through Cold Spring Harbor. It's a beautiful area, but
hasn't Long Island just become a pathetic extension of New York
City, but without the culture?


Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon
Cc: 
Bcc: 

-- 
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RCA 34 Reed College
Box 549, Portland, OR 97202
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From: eam@mintaka.mlb.semi.harris.com (Ed A. Mills)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Genesee Cream Ale
Date: 20 Dec 92 14:56:09 GMT
Organization: Melbourne FL

In article <1992Dec19.020523.26387@nmsu.edu> dtasman@NMSU.edu (Dan Tasman) writes:
>Just thought I'd see what kind of memories that subject brings up ...
>
>--
>   Dan Tasman                                       dtasman@dante.nmsu.edu
>                                                     molson@rever.nmsu.edu

as Homer Simpson would say:

mmmmm.... Genny Cream Ale.... mmmmm....
From: de@moscom.com (David Esan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
Subject: Re: Upstate Senators
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:30:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Moscom Corporation, Pittsford NY

In article <1992Dec15.173420.8249@news.eng.convex.com> metzger@convex.com (Robert Metzger) writes:
>Name all the U.S. Senators from upstate that have represented New York
>since 1945.

Ken Keating.

Charles Goodell.


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From: cbolton@csd475a.erim.org (Chris Bolton)
Subject: Re: "You're from New York City??"
In-reply-to: jay@ecsvax.uncecs.edu's message of Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:18:58 GMT
Organization: Environmental Research Institute of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:43:04

In article <1992Dec15.131858.4120@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> jay@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Jay Novello) writes:

>   I moved to North Carolina about three and a half years ago.  I find that
>   whenever I have to explain to someone where I moved from, I wind up
>   explaining that New York State isn't all urbanized!  Sheesh...you'd
>   think it was like New Jersey or something...:)

  My grandmother used to live in "the foothills of the Allegany(sp?) 
mountains".  I'd tell someone that I was off to visit her in New York,
and they'd always say something like, "Stay off the subway".  So then I'd
tell them that I was speaking of New York state, not the city and they'd
say, "Oh, well, wherever you're going I hope you don't get mugged".  So
then I'd sit them down and explain to them that as soon as you crossed the
state line, you didn't immediately find yourself in a crime-ridden, grafitti-
covered city in the crossfire of a gang war.  That's like people thinking
all of Michigan is like Detroit.  Geesh, I cringe at that thought...

				-Chris Bolton
				 cbolton@csd475a.erim.org
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From: schultz@schultz.kgn.ibm.com (Karl Schultz)
Subject: Re: Best Rochester Restaurants?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 15:13:36 GMT
Reply-To: schultz@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM AWSD Graphics Systems

There's a place that serves chicken wings in a really awesome
honey sauce, as well as in the traditional "buffalo" style.
Anyone remember the name?  Mama's something or another?

-- 
Karl Schultz                             schultz@vnet.ibm.com
These statements or opinions are not necessarily those of IBM
Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: bagel@vpnet.chi.il.us (marcia goldstein)
Subject: Anyone here from Altamont?
Organization: Vpnet - Free Usenet access
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:32:47 GMT

  Wow!  I couldn't resist a group with a name like this!  Although I live
  in a Chicago suburb now, I still consider myself an easterner.  New
  Jersey (don't you dare knock my beautiful garden state!) is my original
  home, but I have wonderful memories of the summer I spent at Syracuse
  (where I met my husband) and the one we spent at Cornell.  I lived for
  5 years in Rockland County and hated to leave.

  What I'm wondering now is if anyone who reads this is in the Altamont
  area.  That's where my sister lives, and it's such a small place that
  if you live there, you probably know her.  What a kick that would be for
  someone to come up to her and say hello because you found out about her
  on the net.  So, if you do, won't you please email me and let me know?
  Thanks!

  Marcia Goldstein
  bagel@vpnet.chi.il.us

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From: klloyd@convex.com (Ken Lloyd)
Subject: Looking for Foss!
Summary: In search of!
Keywords: James Jacob "Rip" Foss
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:10:49 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

This newsgroup reminded me of a long
lost friend who is from UpState NY.
That is all I remember. I met him
in a small town called Hillsboro,
 in TX. I think it was in 1976-77.
 If anyone knows of this guy, let
 me know.

 Thanks,

 Ken Lloyd
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From: dennett@kodak.kodak.com (Charlie Dennett)
Subject: Re: Genesee Cream Ale
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 13:59:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.020523.26387@nmsu.edu> dtasman@NMSU.edu (Dan Tasman) writes:
>Just thought I'd see what kind of memories that subject brings up ...
>

Ah, yes.  The Green Death!  I recall my first run in with it over 16
years ago when I moved here from Massachusetts.  4 years of partying
at collage had not prepared me for that stuff.  I can't even drink
one bottle without getting a roaring headache now.

Charlie Dennett --  dennett@kodak.com

Newsgroups: alt.culture.ny-upstate
From: ean@gvls2.gvl.unisys.com (Ed Naratil)
Subject: Re: Great New Group
Organization: Paramax Systems Corp., Valley Forge Labs, Paoli, PA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 11:34:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.010553.11669@ee.rochester.edu> jerry@ee.rochester.edu (Jerry Seward) writes:
>>
>Sure, I'm from Floyd.  Have you heard of that?
>
Sure, right down the road from Stittville.  

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