HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: umnevile@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Benkamin Bowles Nevile)
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:43:31 GMT


>Yup it's excellent. The first side is weak (expept for Bastille Day IMHO)
>and the second half is most excellent, not always good but it show
>temedous promises that were realised in subsequent albums.

You didn't like _Lakeside Park_?  That's one of my favorite songs.  
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: cmermag@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Mermagen)
Subject: Re: Favorite Alex solos (was Alex' guitar work on p/g)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 16:30:02 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa

I enjoy these solos as well as the ones previously mentioned:

Digital Man 
Emotion Detector
Ghost of Dance :)
Several licks from Camera eye

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: p_norwoo@oz.plymouth.edu (Peter C. Norwood)
Subject: Any Collectors? 
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, NH.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:22:45 GMT

>  He either said this on:
>  "In Concert, '91 or '92" (I have both on tape) or on an MTV interview of him
>  that I have on tape as well.

	Okay, this is the deal.  I, probably like many other Rush-heads, really
dig collecting little juicy items like these here.  In the past years
I have accumulated a modest collection of "live concert footage"
(ahem) that I would like to share with other fans.  If anyone is
interested in establishing some kind of trading relationship, please
mail me.
			Thanx,
 				 Pete









Newsgroups: alt.music.rush,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.warlord
From: pvs9@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (Praktikum Verteilte Systeme)
Subject: Re: RUSH?
Reply-To: pvs9@ibr.cs.tu-bs.de (Praktikum Verteilte Systeme)
Organization: TU Braunschweig, Informatik (Bueltenweg), Germany
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:29:29 GMT


I don't know Rush Limbaugh (I'm from the other side of the pond) and the movie
'Rush', but I am certain that the CDs you mention have to do with neither Rush
Limbaugh nor the movie. They are from a Canadian progressive rock band named
_Rush_. They are simplay marvellous. Don't ask. Buy them !
From: Don.Bruder@altern8.mi.org (Don Bruder)
Sender: FredMail@altern8.mi.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Chronicles Question
Date: 14 Dec 92  03:50:44 EST

I've been wondering about this one for a while now (since I got the tapes) and
I've noticed that a couple of freinds of mine have copies that do the same
thing... About 3 seconds into New World Man on the Chronicles tape, I have a
total dropout. Like I say, a few freinds have copies that do the same thing. Is
this a universal thing, or did we just run into a batch of bad copies? It's
nothing horribly bad (lasts all of about 3/4 second, maybe less) but it is
annoying. Any comments from anybody?
(And before you tell me to check the FAQ, let me assure you, I've just (within
the past 10 minutes) read through the latest version)

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: lerxst@wam.umd.edu (By-Tor)
Subject: Re: Favorite Alex solos (was Alex' guitar work on p/g)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:38:50 GMT

Well, let's see. There are so many that are really good... the one I always
find myself skipping back to on the CD is the solo from The Camera Eye. This
one just blows me away everytime... and at the same time, there is a great
bass solo from Ged. Other ones include The Return of the Prince from the
Necromancer, In the End, Working Man, Mission, Emotion Detector, Ghost of a
Chance, the end of Different Strings, etc etc etc.... the guy is a genius

- IL
               ---- brought to you by your neighborhood Lerxst ----
From: faulkner@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shane P Faulkner)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: What are these notes?
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:14:16 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Dec16.094130.1@cc.uvcc.edu> brownea@cc.uvcc.edu writes:
>
>	I have a question on music:
>	I (try to) play guitar, and I especially enjoy playing with Rush songs.
>One of my favorites to accompany is Xanadu (it helps me tune the thing, too). 
>I've got most of the song in little bits and pieces, but there's the one bit
>that they play at the start (before the sheet music starts), and then repeat
>for a couple of bars at the end.  Let's see if I can describe the part well
>enough that it can be understood:

Well, I *think* I know what you're talking about.  Try this...

--12---------11--------------------
-----10--12------9--10-------------
------------------------9----------
-----------------------------------
-----------------------------------
-----------------------------------

It's in 7/8 by the way.

//////////////////  Rush - Marillion - Kim Mitchell  ////////////////////
/ Shane P. Faulkner         |  Boys and Girls together                  /
/ University At Buffalo     |  Mistake conceit for pride                /
/ V127L2QZ@UBVMS.BITNET     |  Ambition for illusion                    /
/ faulkner@acsu.buffalo.edu |  Dreams for self-delusion   - Neil Peart  /
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: rivit@shell.portal.com (Russell Michael VanTassell)
Subject: Re: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 20:29:15 GMT

In article <724780421.1@altern8.mi> Don.Bruder@altern8.mi.org (Don Bruder) writes:
> RMV> I just to wishful or thinking of something like 
> RMV> 'alt.enya.puke.puke.puke.'
> 
>Your taste, sir, is contained solely in your mouth.

Well, taken out-of-connotation, I could easily see how you, or anyone
else, might think something of the like...

As for comments like this, save them for email -- they do NOT
belong on the net (as this also should be mailed... but...)


Also, for your information, I was only quoting from the list of
usenet groups... but then again, you wouldn't have known that -- you
had made up your mind before you ever decided that maybe you needed
a little more information on the subject...

--
------------------------------------------------------------------------
RiViT@shell.portal.com                                      russ@mce.com

#include <signature.h>
From: gjr@st-andrews.ac.uk (Graham James Reilly)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Date: 16 Dec 92 21:25:11 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

>	If she wants to make money in the US, she'd better respect our 
>traditions and values, and our country.  She doesn't believe in Freedom of 
>Thought anymore than Brezhnev (sic) did.  If she did, she wouldn't attack the 
>Pope.  (And this is coming from an avowed anti-religious person)  The Pope, and
>Catholics in general, have a right to believe whatever the Hell they want, and
>who's to say that she is right?  I hope she never plays the US again, she has
>no idea of what the Anthem stands for.

 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Neither do I.  I wonder what we have in common? Ah, got it - we're not American.



  If it weren't for the U.S. she'd be 
>eating weinerschnitzel and speaking German right now.  

God bless the goddamn United States of America ( I've got nothing against Americans - I'm sharing a flat with one at the moment.  It's is just the 'If it wasn't for us ...' attitude that pisses me off.)

>
>-- 
> Chintan Amin  The University of Illinois, Urbana Champaign  c-amin1@uiuc.edu


APOLOGY: I know this isn't Rush orientated - lets try and move the argument somewhere else.



Dylan
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: Re: Different Strings
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:11:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.171159.12952@wam.umd.edu> moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins) writes:

<much snipping, if anybody knows enough vi to tell me how to get rid
of all these darn blank lines, e-mail me, please.  And do so in a
a fairly easy-to-follow fashion>









>
>He wrote everything on _Rush_, unless Alex wrote some, too, which I doubt.   
>He's a great guitarist, but I've read interviews, and he doesn't strike me  
>as being terribly bright (no flames, please, but tell me if you got a  
>different impression).  Geddy also wrote some lyrics on FBN, although I  

(No flame, no problem. ;)  )
Alex doesn't strike me as an idiot, either.  He does strike me as
a really funny guy, in interviews and on stage.  But as to how
intelligent he is, who knows?  A lot of his guitar work may well
border on brilliant, in fact some of it is. He may not be as
well-read or as eloquent as Neil is in writing, but his own skill
is writing music, not words, and the more power to him if he
can express himself well that way.  

I can see how you might get that impression, given the fact
that his pictures in the old days resemble the greasy long-hair
types hangin' out by the high school bathrooms and skipping
class, too bored to go in and study.  Me, I went in and studied
and was probably just as bored so I didn't pay attention...grew
long hair for a while, too, but here I am stuck in grad school
and Alex is off living his dreams... I'm not sure I can blame
him for that.  I do know that I won't judge him until I've gotten
to know him well, and that, as we all know, will never happen...

Frank Sellin, fes9s@virginia.edu

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender -Republican)
Subject: Re: Advertisements/Endorsements
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:46:39 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.233505.6267@reed.edu> rseymour@reed.edu writes:
>> 	I think that Alex has endorsed (but not done ads for) Paul Reed Smith
>> Guitars.  (Based in my hometown!!!)  And might have visited the factory, in
>> beautiful downtown Annapolis!  (Little promo  poke poke).
>
>	Alex does do ads for Paul Reed Smith. They have appeared in Guitar  
>World and other magazines.
>

	Hey also used to do ads for Dean Markley strings. I never much cared 
for them myself...

*******************************************************************************
* From: James B     * "THIS IS NOT A FALSE ALARM. THIS IS NOT A TEST."        *
* jamesb@nevada.edu *                                       -- N. Peart       *
*******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: Rush Through Time
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:59:34 GMT

In article <gfABB1m00WB74N62oU@andrew.cmu.edu> Joseph Velardi <jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.alt.music.rush: 16-Dec-92 Happy Holidays... by
>Christopher Mermagen@eng 



>
>Rush through Time!!  Ah, the collection I always thought was more
>fiction than fact.  It was one of those things that somebody's older
>brother saw somewhere out of state once that would be really neat to
>have but, dammit, is just impossible to find.  My friends and I who
>listen to Rush always thought of it as "the Grail."  That being the
>case, I recall many pilgrimages to cubbyhole record stores and many,
>many disappointments....
>
>So now I find that it really *does* exist.  Would anyone (Chris?) be
>kind enough to post some more information about this disc?  For instance:
>    o  Is it a bootleg?
 No.
>    o  What songs are included?
  My copy's sitting at my permanent address, so this is off the top
of my head (just a few of 'em):  Closer to the Heart, 2112 Overture/
Temples of the Syrinx, Bastille Day, Fly By Night, Something for
Nothing, and the others I just can't remember right now. Anthem
maybe? Aaggggghh...
>    o  My friend claimed to have seen it on cassette once.  Is it out
>        on different formats?
  I've only seen it on my LP. Don't know about anything else.
>    o  If it isn't a bootleg and it doesn't contain any original tracks,
>        what the hell is its purpose
  Someone a while back posted that it was intended as a sort of
Greatest Hits (up through AFTK) for radio stations to play. Worked
real well, huh? ;)?
>    o  Why haven't I seen it in any discographies?  Even Archives and
>        Chronicles made those.
 Beats me, I just work here. ;) And I ain't the keeper of Da FAQ.>
>
>Please shed some light here.  Thanks...
 You're welcome.>
>Joe
Frank>
>P.S.  Happy holidays...get some rest...listen to some tunes...$@&#& work.
>
And don't forget the sherry...
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Re:How do you describe Rush?
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:29:48 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1992Dec17.182623.17810@wam.umd.edu> moleface@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Ashley Edward Collins) writes:

>> That's one of my only problems with listening to RUSH.  They're my favorite
>> group for many different reasons.  Peart's way with words is very
>>inspiring to
>> me, and i wish i knew more about the stories nehind Hempspheres, 211, and
>> others.  I guess that's why i joinded this newsgroup.  <hint hint>

>I can tell you that "2112" is based upon Ayn Rand's book, _Anthem,_ which  
>I still haven't read.  It's also the only song Peart wrote inspired by  
>another writer where he actually sites that writer in the liners (oh,  
>yeah, I just remembered that he sited whatshisface in "Red Barchetta").   
>Rush are indeed a wonderful band, and Neil is a great lyricist, but it  
>pisses me off the way he neglects to site authors whose works he writes  
>songs about.  "Xanadu" was my favorite song until I found out that half of  
>it was written by Samuel Taylor Coleridge. 

"Half of" Xanadu was _not_ written by Coleridge. No more than _phrases_ 
of ``Xanadu'' was written by Coleridge in his poem ``Kubla Khan''. 
``Xanadu'' is Neil's adaptation of the poem and there really isn't any 
need to cite the author because it is relatively well known that the 
word ``Xanadu'' comes _from_ Coleridge's poem (though _that_ spelling of
the word is derived from previous literature, history, and legend). 
In short, ask any English lit prof and he'll tell you where it comes
from. ``Frankie Goes to Hollywood'' also used some of ``Kubla Khan''
without talking about Coleridge either.

Actually, it's nice that Neil doesn't spell everything out so clearly
because it's more interesting to discover these things oneself through
lit classes or newsgroups :) Just MHO


Gregg



-- 
Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy)  Dept. of Physics (and Philosophy), Boston Univ.
"You see, the quantum mechanical description is in terms of knowledge" -Peierls
"One can _not_ put the psi-function... in place of the... thing" -Schroedinger
                   _De gustibus non disputandum_, NOT!
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: medwards@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Matt Edwards)
Subject: Re: any rush fans in SD?  : ) 
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:03:51 GMT


Hello, I've been looking for a band to jam with lately in San Diego
but can't seem to find anyone I'm really happy with.  Is there anyone
out there who's just looking to play/mess around for the heck of it?
I play bass and keyboards and Rush is one of my influences.  All the
albums!  *smile*  I also love to write songs (most of my stuff is 
						   pretty strange)
Please let me know through e-mail.

Thanks!  Sorry to waste bandwith *grin*
From: wipperma9340@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: quickly written songs (was: Re: Lyrics for _Force Ten_)
Summary: Permanent Waves
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:15:31 GMT
Reply-To: wipperma9340
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Dec14.172924.8417@b8.b8.ingr.com>, tj@alpine.b17a.ingr.com (T.J. Higgins) writes:
> |> >Well, actually it took a few hours to write "Force Ten", as was documented in
> |> >_Visions_, but that's still pretty quick.
> |> 
> |> 	Rush has done this quite a bit, it seems.  Other songs they have
> |> written to fill up time on their albums.  Three other songs that have been
> |> written in just a few hours are:
> |> 	Closer to the Heart
> |> 	Beneath, Between, Behind
> |> 	New World Man.
> 
> I have always understood that "Vital Signs" was also in this category.
> Anyone know for sure?  (I checked the FAQ before posting, thank you 
> very much.)

Natural Science was another one that was written without much thought.  Of
course, a Rush song written in one minuted is better than two Guns and Roses
albums released on the same day.

Darin Wipperman (aka The Analog Kid)
From: schmidtc@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Christian "X-Man" von Schmidt-Pauli)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Lyrics for _Force Ten_
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:51:05 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany) writes:

>Wow!  april@hotcity.COM typed...
>> Do you know how Force Ten was written??
>> 
>>      RUSH needed a fill for the album, so they sat down and fiddled a little,
>> and came up with Force Twn in about ten minutes.  They had some deadline to
>> meet.  Talk about Grace Under Pressure..

>Well, actually it took a few hours to write "Force Ten", as was documented in
>_Visions_, but that's still pretty quick.

	Rush has done this quite a bit, it seems.  Other songs they have
written to fill up time on their albums.  Three other songs that have been
written in just a few hours are:
	Closer to the Heart
	Beneath, Between, Behind
	New World Man.

	All three of these songs, IMHO, are very good.  It's wierd that
songs they can write in a couple of hours are better than half the songs
on the album that took much longer to write.

All these expressed opinions are entirely fictional.
Any relation to these views by any view known living or dead
is entirely coincidental.

-- 
Christian von Schmidt-Pauli          |    "Number 1: The Larch.
schmidtc@csugrad.cs.vt.edu           |     Number 1: The Larch." - M.P.
Christian "Excuse me while I whip this out" von Schmidt-Pauli
"Speed Limit: 3x10^8 meters/sec.  It's not just a good idea. It's the Law!"
From: lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu (John Lobaugh)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:47:04 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec13.173353.25294@pool.info.sunyit.edu> utdp@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Thomas Prohigh) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.171046.7069@iitmax.iit.edu> boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman) writes:
>>

[Survey about Sinhead O'Conner deleted]

>She sucks and is very Anti-American.  I am from New Jersey and have seem many
>shows at the "Garden State Arts Center (GSAC).  They ALWAYS start off a show 
>by
>playing the National Anthem.  She REFSUED to go on stage if they did this.  It
>was the first time EVER in the 25+ years of the GSAC that they did not play
>it.  Needless to say she will NEVER play there again.

Mmmmm. There is nothing that pisses off righteous god-fearing New 
Jersians more than standing on your principles. I mean, really, refusing
to perform because of the national anthem of the United States of Amerika is
played before your show. 




-- 
John "taking cover" lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:38:06 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <Bz9M1r.Mr7@udecc.engr.udayton.edu> mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U)) writes:
>In article <104486@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:

>>Buy it, it's very unlikely that you'll be disappointed. If you like
>>"By-Tor and the Snow Dog" then you'll love "The Necromancer". And half
>>the album is one long song (technically and series of connected songs)
>>If you're into musical "atmosphere" this may end up being your favorite
>>Rush album. It was the last one I bought (in the process of buying them
>>all) and I could've kicked myself for buying it last!

>I must disagree.  CoS is a great album and all, but I can't say that it is 
>a "must have" for an occasional Rush listener.  It is a nice addition to an
>already large collection of Rush albums, but I would put most of the other
>albums ahead of it.  I like CoS, but I think I only really listen to the
>first thre songs when I do... (Bastille Day, I think I'm going Bald, and
>Lakeside Park)  Although I must say that Lakeside park is one of my favorite
>songs.  I really am not to hip on The Necromancer or By-Tor and the Snow Dog
>(yes I know that is on a diff. album).  Just my opinion, and I know people
>always don't agree with my opinions, but they're mine!  8-)


I can see that some might be disappointed, but I tried to make it clear
that the part which is its strength (the Fountain of Lamneth). You
clearly don't have a taste for the "atmosphere" I was extolling as the
album's virtue, but if even an "occasional" Rush listener has a taste
for "atmosphere" then it's unlikely they'd be disappointed.




Gregg



-- 
Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy)  Dept. of Physics (and Philosophy), Boston Univ.
"You see, the quantum mechanical description is in terms of knowledge" -Peierls
"One can _not_ put the psi-function... in place of the... thing" -Schroedinger
                   _De gustibus non disputandum_, NOT!
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: umnevile@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Benkamin Bowles Nevile)
Subject: Re: IMHO
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:45:23 GMT


>I believe that IMHO means "in my honest opinion" - or am I missing it?

You're missing it - it's "in my humble opinion".

IMHO, though, it's not really a Rush discussion topic.  :>


Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin)
Subject: Re: What are these notes?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:30:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.094130.1@cc.uvcc.edu> brownea@cc.uvcc.edu writes:
>	I have a question on music:
>	I (try to) play guitar, and I especially enjoy playing with Rush songs.
>One of my favorites to accompany is Xanadu (it helps me tune the thing, too). 
>I've got most of the song in little bits and pieces, but there's the one bit
>that they play at the start (before the sheet music starts), and then repeat
>for a couple of bars at the end.  Let's see if I can describe the part well
>enough that it can be understood:
>	At the start of the song, everything is a background chord with a few
>solo guitar notes.  Then the drums start up adding to the background, but not
>overpowering anything, followed by the bass.  But when the bass enters, it
>takes over the 'stage'.  It does it's bit a few times before the guitar starts
>in again.  A little while after this, the guitar is playing quietly a
><repetitive series> without any distortion while the bass continues it's bit. 
>Then the <same series> takes over the theme of the song because the distorter
>has been kicked in.  And at the end of the song, <this series> is repeated a
>couple of times in distortion before the song calms down, and the
>non-distorted bit which ends in the 'descending' to the final chord.
>	Now (if there's anybody left reading this still...) my question:
>	Does anybody know what the notes which repeat are?  The ones that I
>have just gone back and surrounded with <>?

If you're referring to what I think you're referring, namely what I've
always known and loved as The Awesome Xanadu Riff, it goes (and this is
by ear, I've never seen it written out anywhere--they may change a note
or two, or add a couple strokes on the same notes at the end of the song):

(Excuse my modem for throwing crap in the message;  anyway since
I'm too lazy and too ignorant of how to write tab in a post, the letter
corresponds to the pitch, the first number corresponds to the fret, and
the second number corresponds to the string:)

E/12 --> A/10/2 --> B/12/2 --> D#/11/1 --> G#/9/2 --> A/10/2

--> E/9/3

and then it repeats. Happy hunting, and don't forget the righteous
distortion when the bass and drums kick in... ;)

Frank Sellin, fes9s@virginia.edu
"...scaled the frozen mountain-tops to eastern lands unknown
    time and man alone..."














>	








Newsgroups: alt.music.rush