From: arocho@acsu.buffalo.edu (Vance A. Arocho)
Newsgroups: alt.discrimination
Subject: Re: Whites Critical of African Americans
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:32:58 GMT
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Organization: UB

arocho@acsu.buffalo.edu (Vance A. Arocho) writes:
>VA:
>>***** I don't know of any Italians who live in the ghetto; do you?

>RD:
>No, they escaped the Italian ghettos.  As did the Poles and others As I said,
>they've made it.

>***** And their skin color was never a 'disadvantage' for them.

RD (Ron Dippold):
No, they had others.  Skin color isn't the only possible disadvantage,
nor the greatest one.

***** Never said it was but I have yet to see an Asian or Black Senator.
The only difference between an Anglo-American and an Italian-American is cul-
ture and language. So when an Anglo-American tries to tell the Italian-American
he's inferior because he's not a WASP, the Italian knows that's a lot of bull-
shit. He's white, too and he can look back to the history of Italy and see a 
modern industrialized nation that was at one point in history a far-flung em-
pire. The Italian (or Pole) was not brought here in chains, didn't have to suf-
fer Jim Crow laws. Again in reference to Asians they've always valued education
and knowledge. And values affect one's life choices.
*****

>Also, were guns
>and drugs as rampant then as they are now, in the inner cities? Was crack in
>existence back then? 

RD:
Certainly not crack, probably not guns, definitely booze.  But I'd
feel as little sympathy for any of them who used drugs and didn't
succeed as I do for those who use drugs today and don't succeed.

***** Some kids living in the ghetto can "just say 'NO'" for only so long be-
fore they end up trying drugs. A kid in the 'burbs doesn't have to worry about
this kind of thing. Are the police doing their job in the inner city? Do the 
police even care about the people they're supposed to protect, like their 
counterparts in the 'burbs? Does a kid in the 'burbs have to worry daily drive-
by shootings and gangs on the street corner?
*****

>VA:
>>Also, they need not concern themselves with being the 'wrong color'. 

>RD:
>Vietnamese?

>***** They also have to worry about intolerance. You are implicitly comparing

>Asians have been exploited here but they were never enslaved and they always
>managed to preserve their culture.

RD:
Never enslaved?  Let's talk American West.

***** Were they brought here in chains? Forced to breed with strangers?
I believe they came here of their own volition.
*****

>You don't get it, do you? 

RD:
One of my greatest ambitions is to never "get it" in the PC sense.

***** Why are you bringing PC into this? Again you are wrong to compare dif-
ferent groups. I notice that you failed to respond/comment on a good part of my
last post. I take it, then, that you agree with me on those points?

Boy, it must be nice to be an Anglo and be able to make judgements about minori
ties at will. >:-)

Still you're point regarding Dowdy's remarks is valid. Racism is racism, no 
matter the source. Bear in mind, though, that no matter how much you may detest
Black racism, White racism is far more prevalent and must not be ignored or
remain unaddressed, either. Agreed?

Peace.
*****





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