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From: thom@crayfish.ucsd.edu (Thom Cleland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Its a sad sad day...
Date: 9 Oct 1992 04:52:48 GMT
Organization: Tenuous at best
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>|> >wants in a machine (totally modular). If they can put the CPU on a separate
>|> >board, why not the graphics chips? why not the sound chip?
>|> >PC's do it, Macs do it. CBM should have done it with the A2000 forward.
>|> >
>|> Indeed, that's exactly what they did in the A4000!  The AGA graphics
>|> subsystem is on its own separate board, which happens to be horizontal
>|> within the machine.  The CPU subsystem is on a separate board which 
>|> happens to be vertical within the machine.  To the best of my knowledge,
>|> you can pop out your CPU card etc., replace the "motherboard" with a 
>|> new "motherboard", pop the CPU into the new motherboard and go--such
>|> "motherboards" containing some new VAGA graphics subsystem  (Very A.G.A).
>|> Sure, you've got the CIAs and some port-controlling logic on board as
>|> well, but I don't think  (though neither do I know)  that that's the 
>|> expensive part of a new board.  Just think of it as an expansion board
>|> that happens to be flat on the bottom of the computer.  
>
>Oh, come on!!!
>
>Your "graphics subsystem" board (rightly called the motherboard, you can drop
>the quotes...) just happens to have all of the ports, connectors, and the 
>bloody POWER SUPPLY mounted to it!!!!
>
All of the ports and connectors are not, I believe, an immensely expensive
batch of hardware.  And I doubt the power supply is welded to the board.

It's not a plug in card, agreed.  It is, I think, replaceable.  Anyone who
knows  (knows <--- ), please confirm/deny... There comes a point where
marginal added value is going to raise the price significantly.  Maybe they 
are all fiends from hell determined to leave you unsatisfied.  Maybe they're
choosing a balance point of utility and price intended to keep themselves
in business making Amigas.  

I like modularity.  I think the disk drives should be pluggable in like
removable car stereos.  I like the AGA-on-a-card if it doesn't limit
the performance of the machine.  I think that, pending the "two chip"
set's release next year sometime it would be great for you and me to 
write CBM  (suggestions@cbmvax.commodore.com) and politely state what
you think would be a wondrous new Amiga feature.  I also think that
you are in serious need of a homebrew.

>=======Amuser============Frank R. Dana, Jr.============Doc Ami=======     

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>	   living, dead, or undead... that's gonna CHANGE.


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From: slhmz@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Painting your AMIGA or other computer?
Date: 15 Oct 92 00:43:11 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

I have a friend who just painted his Amiga 3000, 1960 monitor, mouse, and modem
GREEN!  A real ugly florescent GREEN!  He then painted an Amiga "beachball" and
a rainbow "checkmark" where the normal Amiga 3000 goes.  Then in real fancy
writting, painted "Commodore Amiga 3000".  

He did a real good job of painting it.   He does have a major in painting, and
no, he didn't paint the monitor's screen.

The finished job looks really slick, but GREEN?  It looks like it came standard
in GREEN (GREEN?)  

Does anybody know of anybody else painting there Amiga/Clone/Mac/etc... ?

Faith
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From: nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen)
Subject: Re: A-MaxII+ ?
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:26:25 GMT
Originator: nilsco@solvar.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Oct12.180039.12122@en.ecn.purdue.edu>, wwarner@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Art Warner) writes:

> 1. Software emulation is slow as molasses in December!
> 2. Hardware emulation could be more expensive than a complete clone system!
>    (I'm talking new, not bought used from a buddy)
> 3. #1&2 are SOMETIMES a pain in the %#% to install and get working perfectly.

Personally I think PCTask works quite well, since it runs Lotus, WP and even
Flight Simulator 4 without any serious problems. On an A3000 these run on
XT speed, but it would be interesting to see how they work on the 4000 :-).

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From: boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg)
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Dave Haynie!
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:44:45 GMT

sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon) writes:

>In <1992Oct12.234601.28463@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU () writes:

>>		George
>>PS: Could someone from C= conferm or reject the fact that the demo AGA 
>>machines to developers were actualy converted A3000s ?

> It's quite likely.  When you're developing an item, it's usually easier to
>incorporate it into something you currently have, rather than build everything
>fresh from the start.  That way you can work out the bugs, and find out what
>changes you'll need to make to better support it.

> Which is likely what happened, the new AGA required certain things that the
>A3000's older design did not contain.

  Well I don't know about the rest of the world, but the AGA machine we were
offered to test software on was some `bastard' computer not very much like
anything else. It wasn't a mutated A3000.

>Steve Sheldon         sheldon@iastate.edu
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From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: I hold in my hands the CBM 1992 Anual Report....
Date: 12 Oct 92 05:41:38 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Oct10.061752.12644@coplex.com> dannie@coplex.com (Dannie Gregoire) writes:
>iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:
>>P.S. Get the Anual report. It's a barrel of laughs... Oh, the official
>>number of Amigas sold now is up to 3.7 Million (page 2).
>
>This is all coming from a company that wants every household appliance

No, ye clueless one. It's comming from me. Not microsoft. Get a clue.
I've been an Amiga advocate and user for many many years. Before
that I owned a C-64.

>of the future to run windows as an interface...please.  Windows is
>useless enough when running on a PC let alone my refrigerator.  I 

Then learn to use and configure your windows environment. It's not
as nice as an Amiga, but it is not some dog slow mud sucking
pile of crap. But then again, you have no clue so we can't
expect that much from you, now can we?

>have not seen the afore mentioned pictures, but if true, I wonder

Then why are you posting? As you know not of what you speak oh
clueless one.

>(Windows is NOT an operating system).

Really? Why not? It provides all of the services an OS does. Except
for Disk IO which it gets from DOS, and even DOS will be
gone from Windows sooner than you think. Windows provides
features that should be in AmigaDOS, but are not (like RTG).

>Perhaps microsoft dribble like yourself might also like to know that
>the Amiga is quite capable of running PC software (including windows

You fool. I own an Amiga 3000 /w 6MB ram and 130 MB disk.
I'm completely aware of it's advantages and features. I even
know how to program it. There are bundles
of Amiga users here at MS. Like I've said before we're not all
blood sucking MS-DOS canibals here at MS.

>and or word, unfortunately) at the SAME time as other Amiga software.
>This is of course a feat hoplessly impossible under windows, such is 
>life.

Yes, Windows deosn't multitask as well as the Amiga. But NT does.
But you wouldn't know about that as only people who have a clue
know about NT.

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From: west@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bruce West)
Subject: Re: A4000 has no "deinterlacer" -- ALL IDIOTS WHO DONT UNDERSTAND READ THIS!
Organization: University of North Texas, Denton
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 06:19:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.025259.243@nntp.uoregon.edu> ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.170746.24859@mercury.unt.edu> west@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bruce West) writes:
>>
>>THE A4000 HAS ABSOLUTELY POSITIVLY NO USE FOR A DEINTERLACER!!!!
>>
>>   Got it?  Do you understand?  The "Double" modes eliminate flicker.     
>
>     Zzzzzt. Yes, DblNTSC and DblPAL are great, but not everyone is going to
>exclusively use these modes. There are still plenty of interlaced modes on the
>A4000 which flicker (I went through most of them last night). Productivity is
>nice. There is room for a flicker fixing device for the A4000.

    GOD!  What will it take?  A brick to the head?  I guess I should have said
this also....

ANY MODE ON THE A4000 THAT IS INTERLACED A FLICKER FIXER WON'T DEINTERLACE IT!
(by interlaced I mean that the Double modes won't fix it)

   As far as programs opening undoubled interlaced screen - get any of pd
programes that MAKE THESE PROGRAMS OPEN UP DOUBLED MODES (and thus de-interlace
them).  For programs like Deluxe Iv, etc etc.  And, of course, these people will
eventually come out with there new versions anyway.



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From: ccb8m@onyx.cs.Virginia.EDU (Charles C. Bundy)
Subject: Re: NT on CD ROM only? -> was Re: Its a sad sad day...
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:37:33 GMT


Jerry J. Shekhel writes:
 
>JIMMY FANG (10667547@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au) wrote:
>: >
>: >How do you pirate a 600MB CD-ROM?
>: >
>: 
>: Are you saying to run NT you need a CD rom player as well?  Gosh, are 
>: Microsoft trying to create their own market, or bundle their OS with a free
>: computer?  How many people have a 486 dx with 8meg+ RAM *AND* CD rom player?
>: So your config files go to the HD and every single driver known to man goes 
>: on the CD?
>: 
>
>Whoa, hold on there.  The current NT "pre-beta" development kit is only
>available on CD (for $70 or so).  The final product will be much smaller
>(no development system, no massive on-line docs) and will ship on floppies.

Why shouldn't NT ship on CD-ROM?  Goodness, CD-ROM drives for Intel machines
can be had for ~$300.  Plus, if you plan to ship something the size of NT
in volume, Micro-Cruft might as well do what workstation vendors are doing 
and go CD-ROM exclusively. 


Charles C. Bundy IV

P.S. I'm assuming that NT isn't going to be useful on anything less than
     a 386DX, therfore power users who will buy NT won't blink an eye at
     a power peripheral like a CD-ROM drive.
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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: I found it! An Amiga *ADVANTAGE*
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 06:56:12 GMT

Wow, I did not think it could be done - but I have found an
advantage in the Amiga over PCs!  :-)

It is this: PCs have a history of using 5.25" floppies.  When things
that require booting (like OSes for my PC), it MUST boot on the 'A:' drive.
So what if your A: drive is 5.25", and the boot software is 3.5"?
Basically, PC users have to either do ROM tricks or get a dual purpose
cable and switch the designations manually.  Ick.

But, on the Amiga, the 3.5" is almost totally prevalent!  This fact would 
be double cool if most of them out there were HD, *but*, oh well.

This is weird - maybe I can make a *list* even.  This one will be the
first entry.

-Dan
.


--
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From: david@ariane.cam.org (David Lebel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Dave Haynie!
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:29:55 GMT
Organization: Ariane Development Group (aka. SilverBox Development Group)
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <35530@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:

> architecture.  The A1000 chip bus is 16-bits wide all around, and its video
> bus is 13-bits wide.  The AA chips need a 32-bit bus that goes roughly twice
> as fast, and they drive a 25-bit pixel bus.

   So Dave, why in the hell there's no way to plug in the AGA into the Amiga
3000? Isn't the CHIP bus is 32-bit wide? I know that they are not pin-compatible
with the old ECS, but would it be possible, thinkable, workable to put,
eventually, Alice and Lisa into the Amiga 3000 in a way or another (heh heh,
in short, can I ?)

> It was a management decision, most likely predicated on cost and the theory
> that "50-million PClones can't be wrong".  Now, most of here know that
> 50-million PClones must be wrong in some way, or we wouldn't waste any time
> with Amigas.  That's not necessarily the opinion of the average A4000 buyer,
> only time will tell.  As I have stated, I would prefer SCSI myself.

   Who designed the IDE interface? Does the 4000 have something from you?

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From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000, A Marketable Machine?
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:30:32 EDT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

re article by Jay Phillips:  But does that "clone of the month" also do
fast animation at 1024 X 768 X 8 bit, without adding a graphics accelerator
chip?! I agree, the static graphics capabilities of the 4000 are
substandard for 1992 personal computers.  However, for dynamic images, the
machine has it over the
IBM PC-derived machine architectures, and Macs.


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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: 2MEG CHIP RAM (a problem?)
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:56:41 GMT

In <1992Oct13.145103.29537@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>So, how many DIG systems have you implemented?  Maybe Commodore should hire
>you.  After all, they've been trying for 7 years to come up with that 20-30K.

They didn't try for 7 years. In fact they try for about 1 year now.

The DIG/RTG system is of course larger than 20-30K. The hardware dependant
code can be of that size and that's what I called 'driver'.

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From: ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AGA hidden registers - C= is giving me an attitude
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:50:56 GMT
Organization: Bugend BBS

caw@miroc.Chi.IL.US (Christopher A. Wichura) writes:

> Have you seen the v39 docs?  Do you have one clue about what Commodore has
> done to the graphics support in v39?  It is much, MUCH easier to write
> Psygnosis class games under v39 without having to 'pass the OS'...

But how will they perform on my A500 under 1.3?

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From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Followup to A4000 first impressions
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:22:09 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

In my previous post about the A4000 and the spped of it's graphic display
in 256 colors I stated it was much fster than an A3000 runnng in the same
mode with 16 colors. And it was. the difference is that both machines
were running NTSC HIRES OVERSCAN. The A4000 was flickering, the 
A3000 was not due to the display enhancer. To get the A4000 to stop
flickering you would have to up the scanrate to DblNTSC and thus
suck more bandwidth and thus take a performance hit.

I think this is an area where a display enhancer for the A4000 would be
a good thing. It would in essance let you halve the amount of work
being done by the new custom chips by offloading the de-interlacing onto
external hardware. A display enhancer for the A4000 that handled 24 bit 
color would in essance be a graphic accelerator.

Ian.
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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: RTG
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:03:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: spartan.1992Oct14.180331.12609
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario

In article <Ace.02tq@auilcs0.UUCP> Ace@auilcs0.UUCP (James Knowlton) writes:

>Exactly!  With RTG/DIG the 3000 can easily have a display to put AGA to shame.
>And considering that as long as C= doesn't try to limit it to 4000+ machines
>(at least the 3000 and hopefully everything below) there could easily be a
>tremendous new user base, which means more development etc. etc....

And yet, AGA is certainly a nice 'base' graphics system. With RTG, those that
have more graphics-intensive demands will have alternatives. Hopefully 
developers like GVP, PP&S, DMI and X-Pert Systems will respond with the
same zeal as the current accelerator wars.

>(da Da DA - music :)  Now if only C= has a good implementation, you know,
>something worthy of an amiga :)

In Chris and Spence we Trust :).
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From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH)
Subject: Re: Its a sad sad day...
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:45:18 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.074104.16024@newshost.unh.edu> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>>>-> Thats funny, since my 486sx-20 runs (crawls,rather) when I'm using Windows.
>>>-> Which is as rarely as possible.  I'll take the speed of my A3000-16 running
>>>-> Workbench anytime, thanks.
>>>
>>> 	You're 486sx or your graphics card must be terrible then.  I'm
>>>    running WIN-OS2 ( the same thing as Win3.0 ) on a 33/486 and its pretty
>>>    fast.  I'm using the Diamond Speedstar Plus graphics card also, which
>>>    isn't exactly state of the art these days.  I can't believe that an 486sx
>>>    would be that much slower then my 33/486.
>>
>>I can.  For one it's running at a slower clock speed. And for two it's an sx.
>>Iv'e used a 486sx running windows, and it IS slow. I'm with him - i'll take
>>a 3000/16 running Workbench anytime, thanks.
>
>	Actually, I don't want either ( Workbench or Windows ).  What I really
>   want is to have OS2 2.0 along with tons of OS2 native applications.
				  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Well, I guess you have one of the two...

>
>						G.Greene
>
>>
>>
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From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Re: Essence of flame
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:01:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.050552.3250@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
>>OK Lets see how many derogatory terms I've come across (mostly in
>>comp.sys.amiga.advocacy):
>>
>>Amiga users             Amigoids
>>WordPerfect             Word Imperfect
>
>Amiga                    Amoeba
>Commodore                Commode-door, Commode
>

Why am I not surprised over MB's posting ??? ;)

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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Flickering mania!!!
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:07:49 GMT

In <amuser.719122348@marsh> amuser@cs.curtin.edu.au (Bill Sharp-Smith) writes:
>>  SUPER72:, all resolutions          YES (including the 800x600 mode)

>A 72Hz-refreshed screen does not flicker at all. Heck, a flicker-fixed
>hires screen uses only a 50Hz refresh rate. Workstations use 72Hz, and
>it looks real nice.

Super72 is a 36Hz interlaced screen (72Hz field rate). So it _does_ flicker
but not that much as a 30Hz (NTSC/Interlace) or 25Hz (PAL/Interlace) screen.

Regards,
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From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Its a sad sad day...
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:05:00 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>Hans Bergengren (Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se) wrote:
>: 
>:  SD> Give me a break.  You write as if Windows is slow on a 386!
>: 
>: But it IS slow! Haven't you NOTICED?
>: 
>
>I think you've been reading .advacacy too long.  Windows 3.1 is easily
>as fast on a 386 as WB on an A3000, IMHO.

Unless of course, your doing a lot of disk accesses... ;)  You can't even move
your mouse pointer..

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