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From: patricia@pete.uucp (Patricia Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC: Walt Wiley
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:07:19 -0800
Reply-To: patricia%pete%nicmad%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: My system in Madison WI

I saw a pre-recorded showing of McLaughlin last night.  One of the
guests was Walt Wiley.  Did you know he has a diamond stud in his
left ear?  I've only seen him on Regis and Kathy Lee before and 
he didn't have the earing then, but he had come over from the studio.

Anyway he said that he feels a relationship with Jack but thinks
that Jack needs a good slap in the head sometimes.

He has been on the show for 5 years and says it is the best job in
the world.  They work from 7A - 7P and he has approximately 30 pages
of dialogue a day to memorize.

He also said it is the actors responsibility to ad lib the words that
the writers use to make them fit the character.

Did you know he majored in sculpting in college?  Maybe that is
where he got his brooding artist look that Jack has been using
lately.

All of the guests agreed that social issues are dealt with in a
slightly humorous manner at times so that the show does not get
overly sad.  ANd that the object is to protray the issue and to
move on to a new topic.


Patricia


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From: sager@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mike.r.sager)
Subject: Re: SB: Louise Sorel
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:19:43 GMT

In article <C1Ht89.3wu@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, lmeydrec@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Astrid) writes:
> 
> Does anybody know just why Louise Sorel (Augusta) was fired? No one really
> explained it at the time, but it was very acrimonious.
> 
> Leigh
> lmeydrec@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu
> 

I remember reading something (I think right here on the net) that she was
upset at the direction her storyline was taking.  This led to problems
with the producers.  The story would have had her getting involved with
Dash Nichols after Dash had raped Julia.  Sorel didn't think this was
appropriate and wanted no part of it.

Hopefully, I have this correct.  Can anyone confirm?

Mike
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From: gwebster@ugly.UVic.CA (Does it matter?)
Subject: Re: Y&R Cricket/Michael
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 15:27:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.131730.1585@galaxy.gov.bc.ca> RFORSTER@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA writes:
>In article <1jhk8gINNoem@uwm.edu>, nina@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Shenina Louise Jones) writes:
>>          Is there anyone else out there who wishes that Cricket and Michael
>> should get it "on"?
>> 
>	Actually I wish she'd shoot him.  After all this is what he deserves.
>	Actually he deserves more but this is a public network.
>

I wish he would shoot her. End the misery. In fact, I'd kind of like to see
a shootout, ending in double homicide (or triple, let include danny in this).




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From: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com (n.j.spera)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Kudos for 1/21 episode
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:56:59 GMT
Reply-To: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron, La Habra, CA

Brian Greenberg writes:
|> I thought today's episode was great:
|> 
   You aren't the only one!

|> First of all, the acting was excellent, IMO.  It was a very emotional episode
|> and I liked it.  The scene between Tony and Dom was amazing. Her grip on her
|> emotions was great.  The writers have done a great job over the past few weeks.

     And knowing Brad Maule's brother died from effects of a brain injury
     made it all the more poignant.

Nancy
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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:31:03 EST
From: Joni Snyder <JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Spoilers (Langley)

In article <1993Jan21.171051.22478@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
kayt@deathstar.Stanford.EDU (Kayt Sorhaindo) says:
>
>Hi everyone,
>
>This tidbit is from Star magazine, but from memory, so please forgive the
>vagueness!...
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>Phoebe will try to convince Brooke to take Edmund back. Even though he's
>made mistakes, they did and do still love each other, so Brooke should
>give him another chance. By using this argument with Brooke, Phoebe
>realizes that she herself shouldn't have been so hard on Langley. And she
>seeks him out for reconciliation.

Does this mean they have split up?  When did it happen?  The only time I
remember them splitting up was over Wade and that was years ago!

The last time I remember seeing Langley was when he was working at
Kelly's.

Joni Snyder
From: mitch@cdthq.UUCP (Mitch Harris)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 11:48:13 CST
Organization: Garys' Home for Obsolete Computers

Well, this is one shitty club to join, but count me in. I was molested as a 
child by two different men when I was less than 6. Of course, I never told 
anyone, 'cause I *knew* my mother would have thought it was my fault. (She 
had mental problems, which *everyone* in my small hometown knew. Think that 
contributed to me being molested?)
I was pretty intimidated by men, until my 1st husband divorced me. After 
that, I became Ms. Assertive! (Don't ask why that was a catalyst, I don't 
know myself. But my personality has sone a 180-degree change...)

.....Beverly "mess with me & I'll kick your *ss!" H.
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From: shellys@cbnewse.cb.att.com (michelle.sulski)
Subject: AMC: Cardiac Arrest=Nola {WAS} Re: AMC: Identifying Tad
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:16:51 GMT

In article ladybug@hydra.unm.edu (Carol E. Newby) writes:
 
>I hope this reads okay, I've been lurking for a few weeks and 
>finally had to respond 

It reads okay with slight modification to line lengths.  Lurk no
more and welcome {:-)
 
>Anyway there was an interesting development Friday so if you haven't 
>seen it yet you can go on to the next post!
>
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>On Friday Dixie showed Nola her pictures of jr. (just as you all have 
>been saying she would!). Well, it wasn't the pic's of jr that caught 
>Nola's eye but the one of Tad! 
>
>Well, I guess it will take them *ages* to end this cliffhanger!

Nola will probably go into CARDIAC ARREST FIRST THING MONDAY MORNING.
I just hope they don't kill her off, she's an excellent actress and
about the only sensible character since...maybe Joe Martin!  Hmmm...
maybe that's a future storyline?  Joe and Nola?  Whoops, what would
happen to Ruthie?  Maybe a Ruthie and Langley storyline could develop?

?~~? ShockWaved Shelly

Wonder Why(s):	Erica can stroll away (escape) from a prestigious looney
		bin such as OakHaven so easily and safely arrive at
		the Lust Haven.
From: cap@netcom.com (Caroline Smrstik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AW:  Lorna, WOW!!!
Date: 28 Jan 93 18:18:13 GMT
Organization: compulsive

TK wrote:

     Hello All!

     Well, all I've got to say today is "WOW", Lorna was FANTASTIC
     in that scene with Felicia, where she confronted her drinking
     and how she was hiding all those liquor bottles around the house.

     I could feel her anger and pity as she went looking around Felicia's
     apartment, running from cubby hole to cubby hole finding bottle
     after bottle after bottle, with Felicia still denying all the
     evidence thrown in her face.  Felicia (can't remember her real name
     at this moment, darn darn darn) even did a pretty good job in
     denying all the evidence.  I don't believe any other two actresses
     on that set could have carried off this scene as well as these
     two women just did.

Hear, hear! Watching that scene, spouse and I had the same reaction: looks
like daytime Emmy performances.

I've been off the soapnet for a bit, since the San Francisco NBC station
decided to stop showing AW. Well, since the (unfortunate) demise of SB,
KRON decided to show AW again; I thought it would have been more like them 
to put in an hour of "Wheel of Fortune" or some such, but lo and behold,
my friends from Bay City are back. I guess this is the proverbial "silver 
lining" to the end of SB.

It's such a joy to watch again and see the new characters that I've read
about here. I like Christy a lot. And am overjoyed that my "return"
coincides with the return of Carl! I love Donna's hair, and Rachel's is
a vast improvement. I agree that Amanda's "hair makeover" is a disaster;
maybe it was to make her look more like a bland wife (you know, the one
who resents her spouse's career).

My spouse, the reluctant soap-watcher ("It's just like that movie, 'Soapdish'"
he says.) has watched with me the last couple days. "I can't believe it;
everyone is exactly the same," he says. "We didn't miss anything!" I try
to point out the new characters and hairstyles ;> but agree somewhat.

Still, it's 50 minutes of silly escapism!

hello to everyone again; let's see more AW chatter.

Caroline


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From: fbrown@ssd.kodak.com (Frank Brown)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: more on homosexuality
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 20:43:58 GMT

In article <18049@umd5.umd.edu> kerry@is-next.umd.edu (Kerry Ogata) writes:
>In article <C12w2C.Lp@ddsw1.mcs.com> starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders) writes:
>
>>On Sun Jan 17 17:48:32 CST 1993, nbaym@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy Baym)
>
>>  [I should point out that (obvious to some) none of those practices
>>   are real OR logical barriers to sainthood.
>>   From God's point of view (as I would understand Him). Not the pope's.]
>
>>   Just a teaser: could you and your friend enjoy trading "outting 
>>postcards" of suspected members of this guy's minority group? If not, why 
>>not? 
>
>Just a teaser:  how do you know God is male?
>
Just teasing back at ya:
This isn't meant to start a argument for or against 
religion but doesn't it say somewhere in the beginning
of the bible that God created man is his own image?

Frank
From: carolh@meaddata.com (Carol Hickmott)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SB: tapes from far away...
Date: 22 Jan 1993 16:04:33 GMT
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.meaddata.com

I've enjoyed reading about the mini-con and keep seeing references to 
"tapes from New Zealand"...are these tapes of entire old shows?  I'd be
interested in hearing more...we're going through withdrawal in a big way
and thought watching old episodes might be fun...how much did it cost to
send a tape from New Zealand?  maybe we north americans can find a way to 
acquire a weekly tape of the good old days?!?  what do you all think?


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From: ccwwcc@mixcom.com (Lynn-Anne Friese)
Subject: Re: OLTL: A&Dw/SOM: Cord
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 19:51:52 GMT

From article <1993Jan26.211259.65179@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>, by cad3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHERYL ANN DOUGHERTY):
> In article <25JAN199320420580@xenon.arc.nasa.gov>, holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (Lau
> ra Holst) writes:
>>Armed and Dangerous with Soap Opera Magazine...
>>
>>John Loprieno revives his role as CORD, starting
>>January 29.
>>
>>Wonder how self-righteous he'll be, this time.
>
>    I saw the ad teasers for Cord's return today during AMC.  I wonder if big
>    sister Vicki will be able to give Tina advice from her own experience of a
>    "dead" husband suddenly while she was happily involved with another man???

I know it's probably going to happen, but I hope Tina doesn't dump Cain for
Cord.  I don't mind Cord too much (he's just been a little dull in the past),
but I think Tina (Karen Witter's Tina, anyway) and Cain have tons more
chemistry together than Tina and Cord did.  I'm glad to see the writers
have finally seemed to make Cain the good guy I always thought he could be.

But, we all know soap opera writers seem to think we sit on the edge of
our seats for weeks on end, wondering which of two love interests a
character will pick, only to usually (and predictably) have them just choose
whoever came first.  Contrary to what they think, this doesn't fascinate me.
It just irritates me.  I'm hoping this case provides the exception to the
rule.

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mixcom!ccwwcc%uunet.uu.net
ccwwcc@mixcom.com
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 27 Jan 1993 11:45:50 MST
From: <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
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Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: How many Susans? (Was:Aaron Neville)
 <Jan.22.16.47.09.1993.28228@gandalf.rutgers.edu>

Susan Hagan originially inquired about how many Susans there are posting
here.  I tried saving her article so I could respond to it but, well.....
my system just kinda didn't like me at the time, I guess.  Everything I
tried to save so I could post about disappeared from my mailbox.  The
wonders of Antiquainted equipment :-)

Anyway, if I recall correctly, Susan asked me if I became a peel sister
because of so many Susans posting.
My answer:
No way!  I really enjoy posting to this group and have found it really
difficult this last week or so not being able to respond to any of the
posts I have seen here.  (Yes, it really is adicting)  I felt like I
belonged in this unique group of people who watch DOOL and I also felt that
I had something to contribute having been one of the few people who has
viewed DOOL off and on since the preview show in the '60's.

The sisters and brothers have made me feel very welcome and I feel like I
have made a second family here.  Hopefully, it won't be too long after
I leave my current position (02/26/93) before I again have net access.
However, if I only have e-mail access, I think I can survive :-)

Susan, I hope I answered your question.  If I didn't please repost and I'll
try to add more.  I'll also answer any other question (s) you had if I
forgot one :-)  I do so love to post.

Quince

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From:  ()
Subject: Re: AMC: Musings & Other Stuff
Followup-To: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Organization: nasa-jsc
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:42:19 GMT

In article <93028.084759JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu>, Joni Snyder
<JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu> wrote:
> 
> In article <16B63DB67.C0043@vmcms.csuohio.edu>, C0043@vmcms.csuohio.edu says:
> >
> Charlie aka Choppers doesn't have a big brother.  He has 3 older uncles,
> Bobby in the attic, Jeff the doctor, and Tad the magnificent.  He also
> has one younger uncle, Joey the doctor in training.  It may have come
> out long ago that Tara, Charlie's mom, had another child with her current
> husband, but we have never seen him.

Is Charlie younger than Tad, I remember Charlie aka Phill, when I first
started watching when Mary Kennicott was murdered.  Tad came along later,
but was (how old).  Just wondering.
> 
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From: lfreeman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Fluffy Sheep Woman)
Subject: Re: ATWT:  Dances with Oilman
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:54:07 GMT

In article <C16vJ5.DtG@andy.bgsu.edu> ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile) writes:
>In article <55377.sheila.mcmahon.3@nd.edu>, Sheila McMahon <sheila.mcmahon.3@nd.edu> writes:
>> >
>
>	Another place I think that the writers have fluffed is in the way that
>Lilabird has been painted into all of this...it sort of recalls one of those
>stories in which the "good white woman" goes "squaw" or something.  Like,
>lose the whole turquoise jewelry as symbol emphasis.
>
actually, that may be by the actress' choice -- one of the soap opera
rags I picked up in line (sorry, I don't remember which one; it was a couple
of weeks ago) had a couple of lines about how the actress who plays lilabird
has been very involved with navtive american rights for the last several 
years...

>	Meanwhile, my sympathies lie with the Navaho.  Talk about having
>been "pimp-slapped"!!!!  (Plus, dudes like Cal deserve to lose once in a while)
yeah, I wish the writers wouldn't make this story so damn one sided.  I *want*
to root for the navaho, but the writers are making them look like fools, and
making just a *tad* difficult....

				the fluffy sheep woman



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From: mhr@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Mike Reaser)
Subject: Re: Y&R Cricket/Michael
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:59:13 GMT
Organization: a stone mountain of Kudzu

In <1993Jan21.152728.7998@sol.UVic.CA> gwebster@ugly.UVic.CA (Does it matter?) writes:

>In article <1993Jan19.131730.1585@galaxy.gov.bc.ca> RFORSTER@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA writes:
>>	Actually I wish she'd shoot him.  After all this is what he deserves.
>>	Actually he deserves more but this is a public network.

>I wish he would shoot her. End the misery. In fact, I'd kind of like to see
>a shootout, ending in double homicide (or triple, let include danny in this).

The perfect scenario:

Victor hires Michael to pursue the "end...this...fawce...uvv...a...
marry...age" legal stuff, invites Cricket and Danny to lunch at the
Top of the Snot (or whatever that restaurant's called), Michael sees
them, goes nutzoid, comes in and shoots Victor, the Bug, and Dummy,
then realizing he's just killed his only meal ticket in Genoa City
commits suicide.

Let's clear up as many pain-in-the-butt storylines at once as we can!

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From: comjudi@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Judi Geistlinger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Character glut
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:15:07 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


>>   I still really miss Mark, even when he was a drug
>>   addict i liked him... he seems like a nice guy
>>   for real....
>>sue

>I liked Mark too!  I wish they would bring him back.

Me too. I think Erica could really use him right now. At least she will 
really need him if Mona has a turn for the worse.

Judi

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From: kowalski@ganymede (Patty Kowalski)
Subject: Re: AMC: Dixie losing her accent
Organization: Allen-Bradley Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:52:41 GMT

Some people get/lose accents quickly, others do not.  It
may have something to do with age, but maybe it's just 
people.  I catch accents quickly.  I've listened to 
a friend pick up the hilbilly twang of southern Indiana
over the course of 7 years, yet another friend, who hasnt 
lived in Pittsburgh for over 40 years, still gives his 
birthplace away with every "shah-er" he takes!  

No big deal that Dixie lost her accent and Opal did not. 
It just seems strange when you hear them put together


pk.
_________________________________________________________________
none of this has anything to do with my employer
From: norbeck@pleiades.cs.bucknell.edu (Naughty Nukes NY in her 1999 Nissan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Jan 15th
Date: 23 Jan 1993 17:31:05 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: pleiades.cs.bucknell.edu

In article <93022.003818RAMETZ01@ULKYVM.BITNET> Robert A. Metzger <RAMETZ01@ULKYVM.BITNET> writes:

>Sorry about that.  I meant the comment made by CC after giving Ted his share of
>Capwell Ent. that on Jan 15th. everything will work out.  I don't know if the
>words are exactly as CC said them, but it was something to that effect. The
>last show did not mention anything about this.  I think it was overlooked or
>just left out.

I don't think it was anything but a throwaway line.  It certainly
didn't refer to any great equaling event that was supposed to take
place on the 15th other than the end of the show.  The actual line was
more like a "It won't matter anyway after January 15th," as opposed to
something about everything "evening out" on the 15th.  

It only meant that after the show was canceled, who got how much
wasn't going to mean anything.


>Robert A. Metzger                RAMETZ01 @ ULKYVM

Nancy



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From: morgan@math.psu.edu (Ilene Morgan)
Subject: SB:  Daytime TV
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Pennsylvania State University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:39:18 GMT

Hi, all.  I must have looked at 20 newsstands in State College, and none
of them seems to carry Daytime TV.  Could someone please e-mail me with
the address and/or phone number for Daytime TV so I can try to get the
SB tribute issue?

Thanks,
Ilene
morgan@math.psu.edu
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From: porterd@hdsrus.dec.com
Subject: Re: GL: David and Kat
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:37:06 GMT


In article <1k6iscINN98p@umbc4.umbc.edu>, sher@umbc.edu (Sherri Crain) writes...
> 
>Comment on the David and Kat pairing...although I *love* these two
>together,isn't David *technically* Kat's uncle..by marriage.
> 
>I mean,if my mom remarried,my step-father's brother would be my uncle...
>is that not right?
> 
>I don't think it's legal for these two to pair up.  I know in a lot
>of states it would be illegal..I don't know about Springfield,USA.
> 
>-- 
> 
>     Lack of planning on your part                 -sher   
>doesn't justify an emergency on my part     sher@umbc3.umbc.edu

Since David and Kat are not related by blood only marriage there isn't any
problem.


Donna Porter	porterd@hdsrus.dec.com
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From: jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Subject: Re: OLTL: A&Dw/SOM: Cord
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:42:39 GMT

In article <25JAN199320420580@xenon.arc.nasa.gov> holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (Laura Holst) writes:
>Armed and Dangerous with Soap Opera Magazine...
>
>John Loprieno revives his role as CORD, starting
>January 29.
>
>Wonder how self-righteous he'll be, this time.

Saw some preview commercials yesterday.  Luna is helping Tina find out about
her future with a Ouija board & of course they come up with the initials C.R.
which they perceive to be Cain Rogan & of course not Cord Roberts.