HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mazur@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Beth Mazur)
Subject: Re: Bailey & Butter Burning Revisited - Short Summary
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:26:23 GMT

>>In article <1992Sep28.165541.6470@m.cs.uiuc.edu> watanabe@sunflower.cs.uiuc.edu (Larry Watanabe) writes:
>>>I have been convinced by Steve Dyer's arguments that there is
>>>little evidence that metabolism is significantly changed by exercise.
>			^
>Sorry folks, what I meant was RESTING metabolic rate.

Well, even that is suspect.  Metabolic rate is significantly affected
by lean body mass.  Since exercise can increase LBM, it would seem
that exercise, however indirectly, can increase metabolism.

Of course, we have another one of those precise technical terms like
"significantly" in there to muck up the works :-).

Beth Mazur                   "...life is more than a vision.  The sweetest
mazur@inmet.inmet.com         part is acting after making a decision."
...!uunet!inmet!mazur                                  -- The Indigo Girls
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: What muscles do Pull Ups build?
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:58:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Sep29.205840.5867
Organization: Western Washington University

DEHP@calvin.edu (Phil de Haan) writes:

>It's true that body weight is a factor in the ability to do pullups, but 
>only to a degree.  If one used to be able to do 25-30 pullups at one time 
>and now has trouble doing one or two something's wrong.  I'm not overly big 
>by any stretch of the imagination (6-0, 175), but I have no trouble doing 
>four or five sets of pullups, including a couple of sets with weight.  And I 
>do them once in a while with a guy who goes 6-2, 205.  My brother is 6-4, 
>215 and regularly does four or five sets of pullups.  Don't use body weight 
>as an excuse or reason not to do pullups.  IMHO there's no better lat and 
>back exercise.

I used to weigh 145-155.   At that point I could do 25-30 max.

Now I weigh 235, and have weighed as much as 245.   Last time I tried
I was about 240 and did two.   

Last year I was about 230 lbs, and as part of applying to be a fireman
I had to pass a torturous physical test.  I passed, but pull ups were 
my weakest area.   I don't have the sheet around, but I believe it was 
by the bare minimum (10?) on the pull ups, and I made up for it on legs,
the "sprint up stairs with a heavy dummy over your shoulders",
and some other things.

I could not replicate the 10 before or after the test.

Anyway, yes, my weight does have everything to do with it.

As far as it being the best lat exercise there is, that may 
be true for some people, but I know I am better off with 5 sets 
of 6-12 reps on pull-downs, than with 5 sets of 2 on pull-ups.

Jim Del Vecchio
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re.  LIQUID FASTING DIET
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:59:00 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

I apologize for sounding rude, but I find this type of diet to be of poor
quality and "downright" harmful to the body.  To survive on various liquids
and vitamin supplements is absolutely ridiculous.  There are better ways of
"ridding" the body of elements that cause disease.  Ever hear of antioxidants
and the use of a multivitamin to help keep the immune system "boosted"?
I am not an expert on dieting, but a human body needs "food" no matter what
you are intending to do.  To drink apple-cider vinegar and chew a spoonfull
of garlic pieces is ridiculous.  This sounds like another grape-fruit diet, or
M & M diet.  Give me a break!

-Rob
From: levino@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (oscar l levin )
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: more on cardio funk
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:27:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

Cardio fitness is a primary goal for most exercise programs. For
a cardio program to be effective 3 factors must be monitored:
frequency, intensity and duration. Of the 3 intensity is the most
difficult to measure. 
The guidelines of the American College of Sports Medicine specify
that cardio aerobic training correspond to THR(target heart rate)
zones of 65% to 90% of maximum hear rate, or 50% to 85% of VO2
max (functional capacity). 
There are 2 primary methods for calculating THR: Karvonen formula
and the percent of maximum hear rate formula (HRmax).
The karvonen formula:
THR= (maximum hear rate-resting heart rate)x%intensity +resting
hear rate.
EX: 50-year womman has a resting heart rate of 80 and maximum HR
of 170.
The recommended intensity level is 65%. The THR Will be:
     170
   -  80
   -------
      90
 x   .65
   -------
    58.5
 +  80.
 --------
   138.5

In the formula maximum heart rate is calculated as 220 minus
years of age. The range of error is generally no more than 5-10
beats per minute (BPM)

The HRmax:
THR maximum heart rate x%intensity. For the old lady will be 
   THR = 170
	x.65
       -----
	110.5
The range of error is 10-20 BPM. 

However THR is not the only way to go. Borg a psychologist
developed a scale for ratings of perceived exertion (RPE)which
shows a high correlation with heart rate and other metabolic
parameters, according to ACSM guidelines. The challenge of RPE is
clear; It's a judgment call and is particularly difficult for
beginners. In a study of the RPE by Noble, University of Wyoming
1982, indicate that RPE was more appropriate with individuals who
had been exercising for a while. 

OScar.
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: apte@leland.Stanford.EDU (R Apte)
Subject: Re: LIQUID FASTING DIET
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 22:54:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.202946.1614@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>
>Sounds like a recipe for death to me. 
>
>Somewhere I read that when people fast, the heart muscle is damaged
>because the body begins feeding off it to compensate for lack of
>dietary protein, and a heart attack is the usual cause of death
>when people fast. 

I really do doubt that a single day of fasting will deplete protein
stores sufficiently to cause any harm unless you lift for twelve hours
that day.  In following a similar program, minus the vitamins, garlic, and 
special fluids--ie, water only--I haven't detected any ill effects.
The main thing is to come out of the fast very gradually or you will
get an upset stomach.   Also, I find that I need to get some exercise 
or my metabolism will go way down during the fast.

Raj


Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: doug@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Doug)
Subject: Re: KM Product Info?
Reply-To: doug@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Doug)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 01:32:06 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.132714.9761@scott.skidmore.edu> kbarss@scott.skidmore.edu (Kelly Barss) writes:
> armand@comm.mot.com (Arman Dolikian) writes:
> > 
> > Can anyone relate their knowledge and/or experience with a product 
> > called Km?     It is sold as a herbal vitamin supplement, with lots
> > of claims about improving your health,  increasing your lifespan,
> > reducing succeptibility to getting colds, etc., etc.
> > 
> > The claims sound too good to be true, so naturally I am skeptical.
> > However, I am in a position where a friend that I care about is 
> > getting involved as a distributor, and has asked me to try the stuff on
> > a 30 day "free" trial.
> > 
> > After three weeks, I have not noticed anything (good or bad), and now
> > must decide whether to continue  (ads say most users sense result
> > within two weeks, but some may take up to three months).  
> > 
> 
> I tried Km too.  I probably took it for a month or two and didn't really notice anything great.  I supposed we need the potassium/minerals but since I didn't seem to feel any better or worse, I stopped...I do know some people who take the liquid and say that they feel much better taking it.  Don't know what else to say 'bout it!!  :)
> 
> Kelly.


The CBS program, 60 Minutes, did a segment on this product and its company. 
Basically an Amway type set up: sell crap for high price, everybody but the 
person on the bottom step of the ladder gets rich.  Km management denied any
claims that it heals individual and animals from ailments, however on a 
hidden camera, distributors were claiming that Km could battle the affects
of even the AIDS virus.

This a pretty expensive product to find out that none of the hype about it
is true!  I think that they use to call this "Snake Oil"!


D
D
D
D
The CBS program 60 minutes 
Organization: Masters student, Urban and Public Affairs, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: GHB
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:59:18 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

In article <1992Sep25.002656.27137@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, awds_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (ClarkKent) writes:
> Has anyone heard of a substance called GammaHydroxyButarate?
> It was popular when I stopped working out a couple of years
> ago, as a booster to gh release.  I heard the FDA banned
> this substance, anyone know about this?          
> I tried it a couple of times back then, found it a few days ago,
> was just curious.  Thanks

Yes they did ban.  Unfortunately, I can't recall why.  From what I have heard, 
it was pretty good stuff that "increased" your growth hormone level.  It is 
similar to what is now called GABA or I think, Gamma Amino Butyric Acid.  GABA
is supposed to have similar results as GHB did.  I have read from the NSA that
it is a fairly good product, however, I have had no personal experience with 
this product.

-Rob
From: seove@mars.lerc.nasa.gov (ERIC OVERTON)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Who won the Nationals?
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:35:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Who won the National Bodybuilding contest?

Eric
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: horwath@rtsg.mot.com (George Horwath)
Subject: Re: Are all doctors stupid ?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:53:07 GMT

kimmyd@bnr.ca (Kimmy Posey P920) writes:

>Laziness is it's own reward, being fat is fine etc.  Then when I tell him
>I'm 6'2'' 220 lbs he gets out some medical reference book and tells me I'm
>20-40 lbs overweight!  Am I?  I don't look overwieght.  Hell I'm eatin'

Well, clearly you don't know Arnold's Axiom (or is that Cory's Corollary,
Lee's Law or Mentzer's Maxim :) which states....

      "The degree to which a guy will put down a bodybuilder is
       proportional to the degree to which his physique compares
       to an upside down lightbulb."

>I tell him that a competition level Bodybuilder of
>my height usually competes at a much higher weight that 220.  I tell him
>that Ferrigno is like 6'5'' and over 300 lbs.

On the other hand, when talking health issues, never use examples from the
pros whether it be bodybuilding, football, whatever. Those guys train to
win - health is the least of their concerns.

-George

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From: jeff@unix386.Convergent.COM (Jeff Beckmann)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: What Happened to my Thoughts?
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:32:57 GMT
Organization: Unisys/Convergent, San Jose, CA

whare@ac.dal.ca writes:


>	P.S. I saw this guy in the gym today who had this massive
>	     needle mark on his arm. Either he's a regular at the 
>	     blood donation clinic or...-- 
>----                               
>                                                  ...Antony R Hare............ 

I thought most people injected I.M. steroids in their buttocks.
Where is Adam when you need him?

Jeff
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Thursday, 1 Oct 1992 09:05:46 PST
From: <BROSE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Schwinn Ladies 10 speed

This almost new 19" Schwinn Caliente ladies 10-speed
bike has gears that have been modified to make peddling
up hills easier, T-bar handlebars with Suntours thumb
gearshifts.  ALOT of accessories included for a very
low price of $150.00.  You must see to appreciate.

If interested please E-mail or call (415) 926-2664 wk or
(408) 248-0411 eves/wkds.
BRose
From: exukds@exu.ericsson.se (Kishore D. Sadani)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Stamina
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:29:14 GMT
Reply-To: exukds@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson in North America.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the user and
              not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article 26082@crpmks.uucp, billb@crpmks.uucp (Bill Bochnik (Info Systems)) writes:
>Any ideas for increasing stamina for aerobic type activities (bike riding, 
>stair mater, etc) beside the obvious of exercice, exercice, exercise?  I do 
>the stairmaster as a warmup (10-15 min) before doing the weights.  My intent 
>is to lose some weight while toning and building up some mass (not a lot).  It 
>seems that my weight training goes well (can do more reps or higher weights + 
>feel like I'm doing something) but my stairmaster workout is not improving.  I 
>concentrate on doing it correctly (form) but it does not seem to help my 
>stamina much.  Any ideas?  E-mail to cut down on traffic, or post if you feel 
>that others may benefit.
>
>
>
>p.s. I do this workout 4-5 mornings a week (m-f) with weekends off.
>Thanks.
>

Stamina is something that takes time to build and in observing
myself, I have noticed that, a couple of weeks without exercise,
is all it takes to get me somewhat deconditioned.

However, inorder to increase stamina, there is a technique
common to jogging,  called WIND SPRINTS. In this method, the runner/jogger intermittently sprints for 30 seconds or more till he/she runs out of breath (not completely).

The runner/jogger, at this point, returns to his/her normal pace of running, continuing the exercise.

I remember reading this in Covert Bailey's "the new fit or fat".

Since I too work out on the Stair-Master, here is what I have been
doing to increase my stamina. I normally step for 15-18 mins but,
instead of going at a steady pace, I increase my pace, and go all
out, for 30-45 secs, after which I return to my normal steady pace.
I try and repeat this two to three times towards the latter half
of my workout (I divide my workout into 3 sections with 5-6 mins
for a warmup). This has helped me tremendously. 
I have noticed that my breath recovery is very quick and within a
couple of minutes I am back to normal.

Also in my opinion, If you are trying to lose weight, it is more
beneficial to break your aerobic exercises down into sections of 10-15 min workouts, with rest in between sections, rather than 30-45 min "killer" workouts.

Hope this helps.

Kishore.
From: whare@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: What Happened to my Thoughts?
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:09:14 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada


	Please post or e-mail responses to Fitness Thoughts.
I thought I had some good ideas and was looking forward to
responses.
	Thanks!			Steve, not so happy, Hare

	P.S. I saw this guy in the gym today who had this massive
	     needle mark on his arm. Either he's a regular at the 
	     blood donation clinic or...-- 
----                               
                                                  ...Richard*GRAPHIC*Design...
                                                  ...Antony R Hare............ 
                                                  ...President................
                                                  ...whare@ac.dal.ca..........
                                                  ...image is almost..........
                                                  .......everything...........
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Re: A good night's sleep
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:36:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <MJD.92Oct5143952@saul.cis.upenn.edu> mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu ("[*] King of the Ugly Ties") writes:
>
>When I was eightteen, one of my roommates put a pea in my bed.  Even
>though I was sleeping on top of ten mattresses and ten feathger quilts,
>my skin was so sensitive that I tossed and turned all night and was
>black and blue in the morning!
>
>Now fuck off, all of you.


Now that's what a bad night's sleep will do to you.




-- 
Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu
From: cb@tamarack13.timbuk (Chris Brewster)
Subject: Re: This Time Around, DON'T VOTE !!
Followup-To: misc.misc
In-reply-to: gadfly@cbnewsi.cb.att.com's message of Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:59:39 GMT
Organization: pubs
	<1992Oct6.135939.15469@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>
Distribution: usa
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:55:23 CDT

Patrick Townson:
   > DO NOT VOTE IN NOVEMBER.

Gadfly:
   Who you vote for at the national or even state level may not make much
   of a difference--I guess it's a matter of personal philosophy-- ...

Though the electorate, in a democracy, probably should have more
influence on policy than we in the US have (take the Vietnam war as an
example), I can point to lots of things in my immediate situation and
physical environment that resulted from, for example, the election of
Reagan.  There will be real, everyday differences in our lives depending
on who is elected president this time.  For example, abortion law will
probably go one way or the other as a result of this election.  Mr.
Townson's cynicism, though partly justified, simply makes it easier for
factions such as the Christian Coalition to control everything.

Chris Brewster
cb@cray.com

Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: patten@lumchan.ifa.hawaii.edu (Brian Michael Patten)
Subject: Re: Hauslabjoch Man
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Univ. of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:46:33 GMT

In article <MJD.92Oct2143307@saul.cis.upenn.edu>, mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu 
("[*] Angel of Threes") writes:
|> In article <38875@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> gstecker@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (George 
|> Stecker) writes:
|>    The FIDONET rumor said that there was semen 
|>    found in the body's anal canal.  We have been unable to verify whether 
|>    this is true or not.  Has anyone heard anything else regarding this 
|>    subject?
|> 
|> Heard, hell.  I put it there myself.
|> 
|> --
|> 
|>                 And for to se, and eek for to be seye
|> Mark-Jason Dominus 	  			    mjd@central.cis.upenn.edu 
|> 
|>                                                    a veritable CLEARINGHOUSE
|>                                                    for bodily secretions of
|>                                                    all kinds


  Hmmmm, was this before the guy was frozen, or after he thawed out?

  Enquiring minds want to know!

---------------

  Brian
Newsgroups: misc.misc,alt.feminism
From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
Subject: Re: article request
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:00:45 GMT
Followup-To: alt.feminism

Muffy Barkocy writes:
> It might help others to recognize the article if you point out that
> a) it was not "warm and fuzzy" (how many newspaper articles are?) and
> b) it was not about me (I think I was mentioned in all of 7-8 lines out
>    of 400 or so).
> c) the title is "computers graphic when it comes to porn"
> 
> Muffy

I disagree about point a) - but that's the article I'm interested in.  If
anyone's got it, please email (bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com) or post.
From: kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey)
Subject: Re: How long has it been?
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center and Reptile Farm
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:04:30 GMT

In article <MJD.92Oct6124157@saul.cis.upenn.edu> mjd@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Mark-Jason Dominus) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.134605.16183@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mneeley@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mark Neeley) writes:
>>   How long has it been since you were kissed by a member of
>>   the opposite sex?
>
>    Maybe a day and a half.  But it's been nearly eight months since the
>last time a lesbian fucked me in the ass with a rubber strap-on dildo.

Diane, reading across my shoulder, claims that the young woman has given
up her right to call herself a lesbian due to the commission of that act.
She also says that silicone is better than the latex rubber stuff.  
Unfortunately she still hasn't got my graphics drivers coded yet, and
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: Nico Tranquilli <@>
Subject: Coins and banknotes
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6ED05026E020B1A@mac1.di.unipi.it>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 28 Sep 92 17: 52:50 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dpt. , University of Pisa
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:21:24 GMT

Is there anybody interested in swapping banknotes or coins ?

Nico.
From: loose@quake.sylmar.ca.us (loose_connection)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Clinton/Gore Stickers for sale
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:12:43 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Quake Public Access, Sylmar CA

have a surplus of Clinton/Gore stickers for anyone interested
send $1 to
Joe Rossi
P.O. Box 1063
Sierra Madre CA 91025
specify Clinton/Gore
and SASE is appreciated

note:  the stickers are vinyl and look just like the big poster at
all the rallys.
From: gkushmer@jade.tufts.edu (Greg Kushmerek)
Newsgroups: misc.misc
Subject: Scam?????
Date: 26 Sep 92 21:10:04 GMT
Distribution: misc
Organization: Roger Mellie Enterprises, PLC

Has anyone received a mailing from/heard of "BHC Awards Center" in Marietta,
Georgia?

I received a "winning notice" in a "promotional offer" of theirs.  Is this
place for real?  Or is this another mail scam?

--gk
Newsgroups: misc.misc
From: Nico Tranquilli <@>
Subject: Coins and banknotes
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6ED05026E020B1A@mac1.di.unipi.it>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 28 Sep 92 17: 52:50 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dpt. , University of Pisa
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:20:23 GMT

Is there anybody interested in swapping banknotes or coins ?

Nico.
Newsgroups: misc.misc,alt.flame