From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: alt.pagan
Subject: Re: pagan self-defense
Date: 12 Sep 92 08:05:06 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <2AADACAF.22086@news.service.uci.edu>, cortese@skid.ps.uci.edu
(Janis Maria Cortese) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.004624.134@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> radzy@ICSI.Berkeley.EDU 
>This is a good point; it also goes for revolvers, though.  I remember
>seeing a little doohickey that held six rounds in it for easy loading
>into a revolver.  YOu just shove the cylinder to one side like you do
>normally, stick the loading doohickey up against it, push, and presto!
>Your revolver is loaded in about a gezillionth of a second.  Of course,
>you're still going to want to keep them close to each other, which may
>negate any safety effects of keeping it unloaded in the first place.
>I can't help it; all I can think about is the kids that would get
>killed.  

And to think, that device was invented for police use, because so many
departments require the officers to use revolvers instead of automatics...

>>As for locking it up, I imagine that for most situations, you
>>know there's an intruder well before s/he gets to where you're
>>at.  It should take about 20 seconds to unlock the gun, and that
>>should usually be enough.  If not, then you probably couldn't
>>SAFELY get to where the gun's at regardless of whether it's
>>locked up or not.
>
>A three number combination lock through a revolver with the cylinder
>oushed out would be fine.  A key lock would also be okay, but you would
>have to keep the key on you physically at all times to keep it out of
>little hands.  (And do you really want to live like that?  I shouldn't
>ask that; for too many people, I suppose, moving out is a luxury.)  

That, and with many handguns, putting the lock between the trigger and the
trigger guard also works in preventing the run from being fireable.

>>Keep the gun unloaded.  It's OK to have a full clip near the
>>gun, though.
>
>A pistol with a clip is wonderful for this!  Great suggestion; we've all
>seen to many old westerns . . .

I wouldn't do that...  Always keep the ammo AWAY from the gun when it is being
stored!  Too many fucking accidents happen otherwise.

Also, show some common sence when using guns.  Right now I'm thinking of a
person I used to work with, who decided to play "Quickdraw" with his nephew. 
Both of them were using LOADED guns.  The nephew was killed.  The person I used
to work with is currently in prison for manslaugter.  (Not to mention gross
neglegance...)  It's amazing how STUPID some people can be about guns.

On the site I'm now working (I do security work) I'm working for a
multi-millionare, watching his estate and opening an electric gate via remote
control.  (Oooohhh... Hard work...)  This bozo keeps two LOADED rifles and a
LOADED revolver, by the side (Read: Servant's) enterance to the house.  Even
though I'm right there, if someone would step into the house through that door,
they'd be able to get AND USE one of those rifles before I could get at 'em...

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