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From: jthornto@ee.ubc.ca (Johan Thornton)
Subject: Re: Advanced Gravis Ultrasound... I like it!
Organization: University of BC, Electrical Engineering
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:37:57 GMT

In article <BtsFz6.F94@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca> ptran@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Phat H Tran) writes:
>Thanks for giving us some solid facts!  However, I have a few questions
>that I was wondering if you can answer:
>
>1. How many DACs does the GUS really have?  Certainly not 32!  I heard 
>   that it has 4 pannable stereo channels through which each of the
>   32 voices can be directed... so I assume it has 4 DACs?

I think it has two (L + R).  Certainly there are only two outputs (L,R in
both amplified 2W and line-level)

>2. What the heck is a YAC?  I heard that the Ultrasound has one.  Maybe
>   I heard wrong.

No idea.  

>3. The samples are all stored in RAM and are all redefinable, are they
>   not?  Somebody was trying to tell me that it had a fixed library
>   of instruments.

No, there's no ROM.  

>4. Is the resampling, amplitude envelope shaping, and voice mixing all
>   done in hardware?  In other words, is it a 32 voice MOD machine?

The resampling and amplitude is done in hardware.  Envelopes must be done
in software, but for many sounds you don't need them.  But yes, it is 
basically a 32-voice MOD machine.  Oh, yes, the mixing is also in hardware.

>5. Does the TSR slow down programs, as some people have claimed?

I imagine it would, somewhat.  For each sample written to the DAC on
the SB, it has to run a snippet of code to make the Ultrasound play it.
I don't know by how much.  

>6. Are developers as enthusiastic about support for the Ultrasound as 
>   Gravis would have us believe?

I don't see why not.  This card is revolutionary.  While other soundcard
manufacturers are just sticking 16-bit DACs on their cards, Gravis has
got 32 voice-synthesis in hardware.  And at a price far lower than
they could get away with.  And with Logitech's backing, I don't think
the Ad-Lib Gold syndrome is likely.

l8r.
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From: hartung@crl.ucsd.edu (Jeff Hartung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: DIGIStudio... the Ultimate MOD editor!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:45:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Aug30.031243.15807@reed.edu> odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes:
>
>  Oh, come on.  Yes, posting binaries is frowned upon and should be done in the
>  "proper groups," but it isn't a capital crime.  For my part, I downloaded

[remainder deleted]

No, it is not merely "frowned upon," it is in violation of this group's
charter, and of UseNet policy in general.  (And I rarely wear a tie.)


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From: kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Kevin Anderson)
Subject: Re: ***PAS-16 forsale or trade***
Summary: xxx
Keywords: xxx
Reply-To: kevin@dipl.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 22:50:28 GMT

<ANONG@MTUS5.BITNET> writes:

>    I have the following for sale :
>
>   Media Vision ProAudio Spectrum-16   :        $ 190
>    Midi Mate                           :        $  40
>    Prince of Persia  (Game)            :        $  FREE

In case you didn't notice, about 15 notes before yours, guru@stasi.bradley.edu
writes:

> Yes, the list price has been cut.  Comstor at (800)959-9590
> is advertising the PAS 16 for $179.

Let's see, a used PAS 16 for $190 or a new one for $179.  Which one to get,
which one to get.  hmmmmmmm.



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From: jlarke@css.itd.umich.edu (Jason Larke)
Subject: Most compatible card?
Organization: Game:Guild
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:01:49 GMT

I'm trying to pick a soundcard for the 486sx/25 I'm about to buy. I'm
on a tight budget, so I'm wondering what card is supported by the largest
number of games, and how many games offer support for the latest soundcards.
I don't want to spend $220 for a PAS-16 just to have it emulate a $95
Soundblaster, but I don't want to get stuck in mono if most games will
support something better. Also *please* mention problems more advanced
cards have emulating a SoundBlaster, since at least some of the older games
will require the card to fake Soundblaster-ness.

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From: kkt@philabs.philips.com (Kim-Kiat Tan)
Subject: Re: Composing & notation software... help me!
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, New York
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:07:06 GMT

In article <tardif.715203420@montmorency> tardif@montmorency.ulaval.ca (Pierre-Martin Tardif) writes:
>	I have some information on MusicTime from PASSPORT
>and that's all...  I looked in Computer Shopper and the

	You can call up Passport and request a demo copy of MusicTime.

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From: brandon@unislc.uucp (Brandon Ausman)
Subject: Re: Actual PAS-16 SB-PRO Comparison Specs!
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:00:27 GMT


Whoa!!!

CD quality sound is not determined only by number of bits.  You also must
consider sample frequency, signal to noise ratio, etc...  LOOK AT THESE
ALSO.....

	Good Luck.

		Brandon
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From: sas@apap4.pap.univie.ac.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: HELP: >33 MHz problems w/ SBPro or PAS???
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:02:40 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Organization: Vienna University Computer Center

In article <1992Aug30.192554.7069@klaava.Helsinki.FI>, jliukkon@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Juha-Matti Liukkonen) writes:
> I'm piecing together a computer for a friend of mine. The motherboard
> will be either 386/40 or 486/50, and I've understood there will be
> problems with at least sound cards because of >33 MHz. I haven't done
> anything to such a combination yet, so your advice would be greatly
> appreciated - so that I could make the thing run OK as soon as I get all
> the parts together.

I'm using a 386/40  *AND* a SBPro (the original OLD version) running MS-DOS 5.0
and Windows 3.X

Never had any problems.  One lil' advice though: setting a hidden refresh most
likely'll screw up the playing of .VOCs :->  this also goes for the digital 
stuff in WC2.

Hope that helps
SAS
From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: FTP Site for MODOBJ?
Date: 24 Aug 92 06:25:24 GMT

Hello MAKOFSKY,STEVEN!

Sunday August 02 1992 22:32, MAKOFSKY,STEVEN (makovsky@scsuc.ctstateu.edu)
wrote:

 M> Hello All! I am looking for an FTP site that has MODOBJ, an .OBJ file that
 M> allows C and Pascal programs to play .MOD files. If anyone has it, or any
 M> other information on programming .MOD stuff, please! Let me know! Thanks!

anonymous ftp on info.brad.ac.uk, in /misc/msdos/mp. These files are put there
direct by the author Mark Cox, as he goes to bradford uni. ModPlay, ModRes,
ModObj and ModTech are all available there I believe.


Regards,
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From: moe@rainier.lib.washington.edu (Joe Shippert)
Subject: Gravis Inconsistancies (was Re: Big delay from Gravis)
Organization: University of Washington Libraries, Seattle
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:26:32 GMT

In article <BtMqF9.JtH@ais.org> impster@ais.org (Charles Budensiek) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.030100.4328@midway.uchicago.edu> nbw1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>Just heard today from reliable sources...that Gravis
>>has pushed the release date of the Gravis Ultrasound to
>>...
>>NOVEMBER 8th.
>>>
>The people at Electronic Arts still say it should be shipped out
>by the end of the month <August>. Would you care to name
>these "reliable sources"?

My phone call to EA produced a release date of "somtime in September". Hmmm.
I guess accurate info is a little too much to ask for.



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From: alvin@netcom.com (Alvin H. White)
Subject: Text to Speech as a background process?
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 21:06:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: Usenet Voice Newsreader

Does anyone know, and want to tell, if any of the sound cards
can do a text to speech process in the background. My Sound
Blaster has that popup music thing that can play music as a
background process while doing other computing.  I want mine
to read the usenet news to me while I do other computing.


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From: nbw1@quads.uchicago.edu  
Subject: Big delay from Gravis
Reply-To: nbw1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 03:01:00 GMT

Just heard today from reliable sources...that Gravis
has pushed the release date of the Gravis Ultrasound to
...
NOVEMBER 8th.

crumb ill buy something else from someone who doesnt delay.


N Ben Williams
no email please

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From: vonk@cs.rochester.edu (Peter VonKaenel)
Subject: Re: Soundblaster question
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:37:24 GMT


/*********************************************************************/

I have received all of zero responses to my question, so I'll give it 
one more try.  My origonal message follows; please help me out here.

/*********************************************************************/

In article <1992Aug31.162025.21268@cs.rochester.edu> vonk@cs.rochester.edu (Peter VonKaenel) writes:
>
>Hi,
>
>I have been thinking about getting a soundboard, but I am not sure
>what to get.  I have a 486/33 and the card would be used for games.
>I have noticed that Soundblaster makes the card the most of my games
>use, but I know that there is a Soundblaster, Soundblaster Pro Basic,
>and Soundblaster Pro.  I have heard that high speed computers have
>problems with the regular Soundblaster; is that true?  Also, what is
>the difference between the Pro and the Pro Basic?  Generally, I want to
>know what card would be good for games and would work with my system.
>If the regular Soundblaster works with a 486/33 then I would consider that
>card since it is less expensive and would only be used for games.
>Please, toss in whatever knowledge you have.
>
>Thanks,
>Peter von Kaenel  (vonk@cs.rochester.edu)
From: MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu (Matthew E. Bernold)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Covox driver for windows 3.1
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:08:28 GMT
Organization: Penn State Star Trek club
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X-Nickname: <<APOCALYPSE>>, Lord of Destruction

This is sort of an answer to your question, and another problem at the same
time.

I am currently collecting a list of programs that can make use of a DAC
attached to the parallel port of a PC.  If anyone knows of any programs that
use a DAC, please mail me with the name of it, and where you can get it
via FTP if it is Shareware/PD.

The list that I have now is pretty small, but I hope it gets better:

ModPlay Pro -- Amiga .mod player
SCOPTRAX -- Raw sound and .VOC player
Play410 -- Sound player

I have also found someone who has written a DEBUG script that will make the
SPEAKER.DRV file from Microsoft work with the DAC instead of the PC internal
speaker.  I am currently speaking with Microsoft's legal department on the
legality of releasing such a script, so please don't ask me to post it or
send it to you.  As soon as I get the ok from Microsoft, I'll post the script.

       Matthew E. Bernold             MEB117@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
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From: cusam@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Steven McCann)
Subject: faq
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 06:44:07 GMT

I bought a sound blaster pro last night for $172.50.

Is this a pretty good price?  (keep in mind  that I DIDN'T have to pay
shipping/handling charges).

Also, what files can it play?  I know of .wav and .voc
Can it play other types?  If so, what other types can it play?

If there are conversion programs, where/what are they? (ftp sites).
Lastly, where can I get sources of good files?
I like any type of music...from classical to hard rock.

So, please respond via email to:
cusam@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu

Sincerely,
Steve McCann
From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PAS and Civilisation
Date: 24 Aug 92 03:43:08 GMT

In a msg on <Aug 05 21:58>, Brad Steele (exubrst@exu.ericsson.se ) writes:

 BS> I might have some ideas regarding the PAS-16 and Soundblaster
 BS> compatibility.  I have some games (Links, for example) that think
 BS> the Soundblaster should be set to IRQ3.  This is bad considering

Seems strange. As far as I'm aware, the original SoundBlaster defaults to IRQ5,
and the SBPro defaults to IRQ7. (The SBPro setting is definately right as I have
one still at that default setting!! :-)

Strange indeed. Yes, IRQ3 does rightly belong to COM2..


Hamish
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Requesting Soundblaster programming help
Date: 31 Aug 92 21:33:50 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <3512@bcstec.ca.boeing.com> stein@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Halden Stein) writes:
>I'd like to write a program that uses my Soundblaster to do
>the following:
>     1) Access the microphone connected to the Soundblaster and
>        record one second of available sound.
>     2) Determine if there was any LOUD sound recorded.

In other words, you want the schematics and source code for the CLAPPER. 

Sorry, I Couldn't resist. 

(There is a PD archive with software to program the soundblaster, called
SBDOS. I can send it to you if you'd like. The author sent it to me).

Spiros


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From: hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: ProMod
Date: 28 Aug 92 05:29:42 GMT

In a msg on <Aug 20 21:18>, Filip Fuma (fuma@central.cis.upenn.edu ) writes:

 FF> I saw on this group a mention of a mod player called 'ProMod'.
 FF> Anyone know where I can find it?

Comp.binaries.ibm.pc published PROMOD11.ZOO earlier this year.. find an archive
site, I suggest. There's always kirk.bu.oz.au, but I'd hope you can find
somewhere a little closer than Queensland, Australia! :-)


Hamish
From: rjm@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Ryan Mitchell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Assembly'92 Demos
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:43:58 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Aug28.091105.24616@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> ehchua@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Eu Hin Chua) writes:
>amigo@milton.u.washington.edu (The Friend) writes:
>
>>jms20@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Sully) writes:
>
>
>>>In a previous article, amigo@milton.u.washington.edu (The Friend) says:
>
>>>>	Just wondering if anyone knows if there's a FTP site for the
>>>>Assembly'92 demos?  [...]
>
>>	under "unreal.zip" in /pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS.
>	       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	Is it my imagination, or have all the files in this directory
>been deleted?  [...]

The file was just moved from the upload directory to the msdos directory.
I don't recall the exact path; check comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives
for more info.

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From: gupw@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Paul Wagland)
Subject: Re: Actual PAS-16 SB-PRO Comparison Specs!
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 00:49:13 GMT

hamish@cloud.pub.uu.oz.au (Hamish Moffatt) writes:

>In a msg on <Aug 11 19:49>, Jon C. Hodgson (jch7056@hertz.njit.edu ) writes:

> JCH>                       Stereo Sound Card Comparison Chart
> JCH>              ====================================
>I'm sure Creative Labs will thank you for this :-)

> JCH> | CD-Quality Sound            | Yes                   | No
>Define CD-Quality sound. Surely this is to some extent a matter of opinion?
>MediaVision obviously advertise it; do Creative Labs say "Less than CD quality"
>or "Not CD quality"?

What he means by CD qualiity is whether the sound is 16 bit or not. The
CD player uses 16 bits to reproduce it's sound, the PAS-16 uses 16 bits
to reproduce it's sound, the SB-Pro uses 8....

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From: harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Gravis Inconsistancies (was Re: Big delay from Gravis)
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:46:22 GMT
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1992Aug27.232632.2493@u.washington.edu> moe@rainier.lib.washington.edu (Joe Shippert) writes:
>In article <BtMqF9.JtH@ais.org> impster@ais.org (Charles Budensiek) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug27.030100.4328@midway.uchicago.edu> nbw1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>Just heard today from reliable sources...that Gravis
>>>has pushed the release date of the Gravis Ultrasound to
>>>...
>>>NOVEMBER 8th.
>>>>
>>The people at Electronic Arts still say it should be shipped out
>>by the end of the month <August>. Would you care to name
>>these "reliable sources"?
>
>My phone call to EA produced a release date of "somtime in September". Hmmm.
>I guess accurate info is a little too much to ask for.
>
If Gravis is just releasing it today (Friday), then EA won't have it till
September, right?


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From: damian@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Damian John AGIUS)
Subject: Re: Problem with MIDI on SB Pro
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:57:35 GMT

emm@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Wendigo) writes:

>Yesterday, the MIDI interface on my SoundBlaster PRO card seems to have
>developed a fault.  Two days before that it was working fine.

>The problem is, the MIDI OUT line on the interface has stopped working
>properly.  i.e. I can't play midi data back to the synth from the computer.
>It seems to be spasmodic, sending the data very occasionally.  During playback
>of a bit of music, I might get 1 or 2 notes out of 50 or so.

Sounds like a problem I had with a dud serial line, what my problem was
was horrendously simple, the screws on each side of the serial plug were
interfering with the sitting of the plug, result no contact on a couple of
the wires causing really bizarre, infrequant problems.  In regards to
the midi cable, it has a weird y-adapter, doesn't it?  Check to see that no
pins are bent/broken (that happened to my vga plug while trying to plug it in
without turning the machine around...).  If it is not that, then there is
either a problem in the card, a dud midi cable (have one of those too...) or
the midi recive on you sound box might have a problem.  If you have (or can
get) another midi box, try it out and see if the problem is still there.

If none of these work (and they probably won't be any help) then I suggest
buying a MPU 401 midi card.  I know they're expensive and are only a midi
interface, but are better at midi because that is what they were designed for.


>The MIDI IN line still works fine (I can still record MIDI data from the
>synth) and the rest of the SoundBlaster card seems to work find, it's just
>the MIDI OUT line.

This is interesting, makes it sound like a bad plug or midi line (the one
that I have used at a friends place worked one day, and was dead the next).


>Has anybody got an idea what the problem is and how to fix it??

Hope I can help.
From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PC Week article on PAS-16 problems / software updates
Keywords: PAS-16 PC WEEK problems
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:05:17 GMT
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/

I take PC Week articles with a grain of salt the size of a baseball, but
there is an article in the August 24th issue regarding problems with the
MediaVision ProAudio 16 (PAS-16) sound card.  (The title is "Media Vision
Works on Bug Fixes for Sound Card".)

It basically says that CompuServe and the MediaVision BBS have been
"flooded" with complaints about Windows 3.1 and CD-ROM incompatibilities.
The problems for the Windows 3.1 sound drivers are reported to be background
hiss, low sound level or hung computers.  The CD-ROM driver for the PAS-16
card is reported to have incompatibilities with "certain network cards and
graphics adapters."  (I can attest to the latter, though the problems
haven't been serious.)

The interesting news is that MediaVision says it will be releasing, "by next
month", new versions of its PAS-16 Windows drivers, and a version 1.46b of
the Trantor SCSI CD-ROM driver, TSLCD.  It will be available for download on
the MediaVision BBS.

-----

My own observations: I'll be glad to get a new copy of TSLCD, and I'll keep
an eye on the MediaVision board and let you know when the drivers get there.
But I've been reading the board for the last two weeks, and while I haven't
seen much in the way of response from MediaVision to various people's
reported problems, I haven't seen much in the way of specific complaints --
certainly not floods.  My major beef with the MediaVision BBS is that they
don't have good utilities for playing with recorded sound -- which isn't
much of a beef at all.  (So, I'll upload them some. :-) )

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