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From: dbullard@scott.skidmore.edu (deryl bullard)
Subject: free movies
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Distribution: NY State
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:31:09 GMT

To all the people who ever been taken for a ride at the movies.
After years in the film industry, I am now ready to reveal the deep
dark secrets that the theaters use to bluff and abuse the public.
If you believe that you were given a song and dance about a problem,
or if you have a question about why prices are so high and why some
films look larger on some screens and small on others, you can now
find out the real reason. I can tell you the many ways and excuses
that are used to cover up the theaters mistake, and also when you are
entitled to a free pass, and how to get it. The following are standard
examples that are used on the public, and if any of these have
happened to you, you were most likely a victim of theater abuse, and
deserve compensation.

                    "The film sent to us was bad"
                    "This is the first time I've heard of that"  
  
  Yes, from bad focus problems, to scenes missing and sound going in
and out. I will tell you what theaters are best for certain types of
films, and what phrase puts fear in the heart of every theater
manager.

e-me !!
From: ehigh@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Egyirba High)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: annoying nuances in films
Date: 26 Dec 92 04:36:10 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA


What bothers me is when characters unlock their doors and go in, forget to take their keys...or when they forget to close or lock their doors once inside.   I don't know why this bothers me....


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From: anna@psych.toronto.edu (Anna Filippone)
Subject: Underrated Actor:  Alan Rickman 
Organization: P.S.A. (Psychology Student's Association)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 04:00:30 GMT

Definitely Alan Rickman.  I saw two films he was in this weekend.  One was  
"Close My Eyes" where he played the husband of a woman who has an affair
with her brother.  The other was "Truly, Madly, Deeply" -- a film I heard
being called the film that "Ghost" should have been (and I agree).  Both
films are highly recommended.

And you must admit that he was the best part of Robin Hood:  Prince of
Thieves as the Sherriff of Nottingham.

Has he been in other films?  

Anna

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From: brian@mtl.mit.edu (brian foley)
Subject: Re: Movies you loved, but couldn't see more than once.
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:44:12 GMT


Out of Africa ... great film, but I don't want to sit in one place that
                  long ever again.
From: ballerup@diku.dk (Per Goetterup)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Black Holes of Cinema
Date: 21 Dec 92 09:28:33 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

idathon@uts.uni-c.dk (Hans O. Nymand) writes:

>>mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes) writes:

[...]
>>>   Any more nominees......?

>Kim Basinger  		<- No! - watch "Nadine" and change your mind!
>Arnold Schwarzzenegger <- Nah, he's much better than Stallone, look at
                           "Kindergarden Cop" and see why.

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From: csroc@cvbnet.prime.com (cvbnet)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Robert De Niro, most overrated actor?
Date: 23 Dec 92 14:11:02 GMT

From article <1992Dec22.210620.21267@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, by ssastry@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Sudhir K Sastry):
> Robert DeNiro has received much admiration for his performances throughout his
stuff deleted... Sudhir goes on and on ranting and raving
about Deniro's imperfections giving him some credit for
Taxi Driver and Raging Bull and GF partII ; none for Goodfellas;
and knocking him for other roles and for having a slight New York
accent and underenunciated words.



De Niro is THE premier actor from the past 10-20 years.
His performances are always better than the material he
is given and he plays it to the max without hamming it up.
A close second is Jack Nicholsen, but De Niro is in a class
with the all time greats. Others who are quite good in the same time
but just miss this level are Robert Redford, Paul Newman, Sean
Connery, Dustin Hoffman, Al Pacino, Anthony Hopkins, Alec Guinness.
	I do not believe that playing in Shakespears works has
relavance in today's world. All of us (at least in the USA) are
exposed to Shakespears work in school and must admire him and be
astonished that his work has stood up for as many years as it has,
but, playing a gangster has much more relavance that playing
Falstaff in modern times.  Playing Jake La Motta has more meaning
than Hamlet IMHO.

As for knocking a person for having a regional(NYC) accent, I think
your predjudice is showing through.  Having an accent is hardly reason
for knocking an actor(unless it takes away from his performance, and I
think that artists like DeNiro and Meryl Streep do a large amount of
prep work for any role) .  We enjoy Sean Connery , Alec Guiness,
Gerald depardieu, Anthony Hopkins and many other fine continental
, and British actors who have strong native accents and are never
cited for this imperfection.
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: THX - Certified Theatre Listing
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:16:04 GMT
Organization: HMS

In article <3562@carroll1.cc.edu> acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron) writes:
>
>
>GCC Chestnut Hill Cinemas           |   1   |    #1    | Chestnut Hill      |MA

It currently shows 'Hoffa'.
From: smorrow@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Steve Morrow)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:14:20 GMT
Subject: Re: New Zucker Brothers movie(rental)  "Brain Donors"..anyone see it?
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies

>darrenl@natinst.com (Darren Lilie)

>While renting another video this weekend I saw a preview for "Brain Donors"
>which is now available on video.  It is a Zucker Bros. film(the Airplane! guys)
>and was wondering if it was any good.  The preview looked like it would be 
>a dumb movie but I have liked about every other movie they've produced. 

I saw the preview for Brain Donors on a rental video too, only I thought it
looked funny, so I rented it and was sorely disappointed; many stolen routines
from other "zany" comedians, chiefly the Marx Brothers, with John Turturro (I
think that's his name) doing a really awful Groucho imitation.  If you didn't
particularly like the preview, you might do well skipping the movie.

>Darren

Steve 
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From: vcz40@jester.usask.ca (Vanessa C. Zondervan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Italian movie - Title please...
Date: 4 Jan 1993 04:29:05 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: jester.usask.ca
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

Bryon S. Lape (lape@cs.utk.edu) wrote:
:>
:>	What is the name of the movie (Italian) that came about around the
:>same time as "The Cook, the Theif,..." in the US?  The only scene I
:>remember (I did not see the movie) is a woman in a bath tub while a toy
:>submarine goes between her legs.
:>
:>
Well, you're a bit confused, as the title you mention and the scene you
mention are from two different movies...

The title you are looking for is "The Cook, the Thief, his Wife, and her
Lover". It is a British movie that came out with no rating, since the
MPAA(?) wanted to give it an 'X' without certain cuts. It starred Helen
Mirren (Excalibur's Morgana Le Fey, etc.)

At around the same time, the movie "Tie me Up! Tie me Down!", a Spainish
movie, came out, to the same hullaballoo. It is from this movie that the
scene of the toy 'submarine' (actually a toy scuba diver) in the bathtub is
from. It starred Victoria Abril, who is also in a recently released
similarly erotic movie (I've heard; haven't seen it yet) called "Lovers".
She is very VERY hot!!

I reccommend both movies, provided you are strong of constitution.
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From: cms@sei.cmu.edu (Christine Stanley)
Subject: Re: Movies you loved, but couldn't see more than once.
Organization: The Software Engineering Institute
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:15:29 EST


In article <1642@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM>, lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow) writes:

I`m not even sure I liked this movie, much less loved it.  It was too
disturbing for me to ever want to see it again.

Last Exit to Brooklyn


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From: simpson@cactus.org (Randall L. Simpson)
Subject: Re: rancho deluxe
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 08:40:27 GMT

In article <HATLEY.92Dec23075843@granite.pa.dec.com> hatley@granite.pa.dec.com (Alan Hatley) writes:
>does anyone remember a movie titled "rancho deluxe?  i thought it starred
>jeff bridges and sam waterston as modern day cattle rustlers in montana.
>this movie came out about 20 years ago.  in the film bio's of sam and
>jeff, this movie does not show up.  any ideas why?
>
>Alan

To which film bios are you referring?  All of my film reference books,
which include Katz's _The Film Encyclopedia_ and Monaco's _The Encyclopedia
of Film_, include _Rancho Deluxe in articles on both Bridges and Waterston.
Do they, by any chance, only list films available on video?  _Rancho Deluxe_
is, unfortunately, not available on video.  MY question is: why not!!!
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From: rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Some Minor Jurassic Park News From Nat. Geo.
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:28:10 GMT
Organization: Banzai Institute

Just got the January '93 National Geographic, with a nice main
article on dinosaurs. In said article, they had some info on
the upcoming Jurassic Park.

They have a marvelous picture of the T. Rex under construction.
One "life" size T. rex, a couple smaller models.

The accompanying text (told from the article's author's perspective):

	At the Stan Winston Studio in Los Angeles, I see a fleet of
	dinosaurs being built to star in the Steven Spielberg movie
	"Jurassic Park", based on the best-selling novel by Michael
	Crichton. Crichton imagines that bioengineers clone a zoo of
	dinosaurs from ancient DNA.  They collect DNA from dinosaur 
	biting insects preserved in amber. The clones are raised on
	a private island off Costa Rica as the stars of an intended
	theme park. A series of technical breakdowns lets the animals
	escape. Some spread to the Central American mainland,
	presumably to breed in the wild and eventually terrorize the
	world.

	"This could be the 'Jaws' of the nineties," says spokesman
	Martin Levy. "It's had the longest preproduction of any of 
	Steven's films. We've come a long way from Godzilla. These 
	dinosaurs will move so fluidly you won't realize they aren't
	living animals."

	"We have five main characters," says studio art coordinator
	John Rosengrant. "A T-rex, a sick Triceratops, a spitting
	Dilophosaurus, a Brachiosaurus - and the velociraptors."

	I meet each one. T-rex is the biggest - but it's only a
	mechanized black frame at this stage. The Brachiosaurus 
	would be larger, but the studio is re-creating just its 
	head and neck.

Not much new information, but that photo is something else.

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From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Q on A Few Good Men: Poison???
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:40:22 GMT

Spoilers

In article <1992Dec23.083855.372@news.uwyo.edu> rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky) writes:
>Something that really bothered me about this film was the "poison"
>plot device.  Were these two marines toxicologists or something?
>Where did they find this poison, or barring finding it, how did they
>get it transported to the base? How did they know what minimum dosage
>would be effective, etc.?

Did you miss the end of the film? Didn't Tom Cruise's character show that there
was no poison? The guy had a heart problem. Or am I forgetting something?

Michael



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                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty 
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From: duelge@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Jason Duelge)
Subject: Re: Enough is Enough (was Re: Top Five Movies of All Time)
Reply-To: duelge@schaefer.UUCP (Jason Duelge)
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 16:07:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.131006.448@ifi.unizh.ch> hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner) writes:
>In article <4448@cvbnetPrime.COM> csroc@dime.UUCP (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2) writes:
>>In article <kaxiras.724462968@cs.wisc.edu> kaxiras@falcons.cs.wisc.edu (Stefanos Kaxiras) writes:
>>>I agree with Pentti. Americans are very ignorant regarding
>>>foreign cinema. Most masterpieces do not come from USA.
>>>You people have no idea of Italian cinema, German cinema
>>>(epsecially the very early one - silent ), Jpanese, Russian
>>>( two of my favorite movies -SciFi mind you- come from Russia ),
>>>and what have you.
>
>Wrong, most people everywhere are ignorant of most of world cinema. The situa-
>tion in Europe is generally better than in US concerning the choice of movies
>available to the average guy, but it's a problem everywhere to see specific
>movies if you are not happy with some lousy video, and often even then.
>								M.H.

Like the recent discussion on 'top ten movies', this is again an effort
to judge what the 'best' movies are, and, perhaps, which countries like
the 'best' movies more.
While there are a number of bad things that can be said about americans,
calling us 'very ignorant' because we don't like (or, more often) don't
have a chance to see your 'masterpieces' reeks of cultural arrogance.
Is movie rating a branch of logic?  Or is it a democratic system whereby
everyone (including 'ignorant' americans) gets to 'vote' by spending
their dollars.
In my own case, there are few 'types' of movies i don't like.  I try to
watch a variety of movies, including, when possible, foreign movies.
Unlike many net-posters, i don't dwell on movies i didn't like.  I
tend to talk about movies i liked, and even parts that i liked of
movies i didn't really like.  'like like like'

Rather than criticize us, why don't you suggest some movies, and
perhaps even give a paragraph of review, with the intention of
making us want to see the movie?

Jason

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From: rivers@mdnite.enet.dec.com (Kim Rivers)
Subject: Re: Movies you loved, but couldn't see more than once.
Reply-To: rivers@mdnite.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:45:07 GMT



Glory.


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From: dpruitt@cpqhou.compaq.com (Daniel Pruitt)
Subject: Re: The Cook...Lover/women's response
Reply-To: dpruitt@cpqhou.UUCP (Daniel Pruitt)
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 16:53:29 GMT

Josh Smith writes:
>Eric Strayer writes:
>> Regarding the movie The Cook, The Thief, His Wife & Her Lover,  [snip]
> [...]  But I saw nothing redeeming in the movie at all: it
>seemed to me like someone had said "Let's see just how vile and disgusting a
>movie we can make, just to be vile and disgusting," and did.

PINK FLAMINGOS fits this statement *much* better than TCTTHWAHL.  I thought
THE COOK... was excellent, however, I would only sit through PINK FLAMINGOS
once.

Daniel Pruitt
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From: williaml@cs.concordia.ca (LEE william)
Subject: Re: Q on A Few Good Men: Poison???
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:58:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.083855.372@news.uwyo.edu> rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky) writes:
>Something that really bothered me about this film was the "poison"
>plot device.  Were these two marines toxicologists or something?
>Where did they find this poison, or barring finding it, how did they
>get it transported to the base? How did they know what minimum dosage
>would be effective, etc.?
>
>Not that this movie didn't have its share of problems, but this
>"poison" thing was not addressed fully at the trial. 
>
Another point I found weak was the justification for Demi Moore in trusting
these two marines. But then again, if it wasn't for her, there wouldn't
be a story.  I enjoyed the court room scenes and especially 
Jack Nicholson's acting who I think will an Oscar Award for best 
supporting actor.  

William Lee
Montreal Canada

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From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: HELP with "Summer of My German Soldier"
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 00:39:38 GMT

I saw a movie a few years back, called "Summer of my German Soldier,"
with Kristy McNichol (I think). It was about a young abused Jewish girl
in the south who met a German soldier on the run, and kept him hidded.
It was such a beautiful move. I would like to see it again or purchase
it but I can't find it anywhere. I live in the Detroit area. If anyone
has any info on this I would appreciate it by e-mail.

Feli.
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From: nancyl@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy Lellenberg Bentrup)
Subject: Francais movies -- a recommendation
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:13:43 GMT

I highly recommend "The Return of Martin Guerre" starring Gerard Depardieu.
It's about a man who comes to a town after a war, with significant controversy.
This isnt a good description of it, but I dont want to give away any of the
plot.  I have seen it several times and really enjoy it every time.

Perhaps someone else can describe it better.  Hopefully he/she wont give
away any of the plot though!!
From: mritchie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael S Ritchie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Liam Neeson???
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:04:37 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

And Woody Allen's Husbands and Wives, playing the sweet guy who
gets involved with Judy Davis (who certainly deserves an Oscar
nomination for ther part).
--Michael
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From: gswan@psych.toronto.edu (George Swan)
Subject: Costner's accent in PofT (was Re: Most Overrated Actor/Actress
Summary: CORRECT accent would sound like something from the Canterbury Tales!
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:24:13 GMT

In article <1hl7kaINNcu9@uwm.edu> grendel@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (The Crow of Desperation) writes:

In his article Mark quotes various articles from people who couldn't
care less about whether Kevin Costner spoke with the right accent in
Prince of Theives.  Mark, like some other posters disagrees.

Excuse me, have you ever heard someone read aloud Geoffrey Chaucer's
"Canterbury Tales" in the original.  They are almost incomprehensible
because English has evolved so much from the twelth Century.  I believe
the "Canterbury Tales" were written within a hundred years or so of the
reign of King John.  If the actors had used 12th century english, the
film would have had to be sub-titled in contemporary english.

Face it, the accents actors use in films follow conventions, and
represent compromises.  In many films of World War II, rather than
having the German characters speak German, they have them speak English
with a German accent.  Alternatively, consider the original Star Wars.
All of the imperial officers had slight English accents.

The opposite extreme is represented by Jerzy Kozinki's role in Reds.
Warren Beatty plays John Reed, an American Journalist who documented
the Russian Revolution.  Jerzy Kozinski played Zinoview, the head of
the Comintern.  I worked for a Professor of Linguistics when this film
came out, who really liked that Jerzy Kosinski spoke Zinoview's lines
with a Ukrainian accent in this film, as Zinoview was from the
Ukraine.

>I care.  If an ACTOR is going to assume the role of an Englishman, then he
>should ACT like one.  I don't feel it's a lot to ask for.  Considering
>they're raking in millions for the role, they should take the time to learn
>a proper accent.  It's because of things like that people don't consider
>acting to be work.  I know that a lot of work and talent does go into it,
>but a simple accent shouldn't be too hard to include.
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