From: ataylor@nmsu.edu (Nosy)
Subject: DC can't read (Was: Direct question to ATAYLOR)
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
	<ATAYLOR.92Aug11165941@gauss.nmsu.edu>
	<1992Aug12.011204.9345@uoft02.utoledo.edu>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:22:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.011204.9345@uoft02.utoledo.edu> dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:

<Give it up. I would not stand up here in public and dare you to prove me wrong
<and show my inconsistancies IF I had been inconsistant.


	No?

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From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Re: Critisizing the victim?
Date: 5 Aug 92 11:52:54 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

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<Your world is an idealistic place which we must all try to achieve. However,
<until we achieve Utopia, some of us relaize we have to live in this world. If
<the man walking down the street with the bulging cash was stupid, the woman in
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<the bad situation she should know to avoid is also stupid. Yes or no, your
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<opinion?

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<Sure, any man has the right to do any of these things, and it would be nice to
<live in a a society where his rights are respected. However, any man, or woman,
<who believes such a world exists, or expects it to exist, is being stupid.
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	So, people who expect others to obey the law are "stupid".

	Here's another one.

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From: dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: talk.rape
Subject: Re: Critisizing the victim?
Date: 5 Aug 92 12:17:56 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1992Aug5.021755.10127@news.cs.indiana.edu>, Amy Young Leith <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
> In article <1992Jul28.074010.8993@uoft02.utoledo.edu> dcrosgr@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
> 
>>Your comments, though valid are NOT politically correct. That is like saying
>>jogging through Central Park at night is asking to be mugged. Or for a man to
>>walk downtown in an expensive suit at night is asking to be mugged. Or leaving
>>lots of packages on the car seat is begging to have the window broken.
> 


> 
> What does "politically correct" have to do with it?  If respecting the
> property, personal, and legal rights of others is anything, simply
> "right" would be the term I'm thinking of.  

His comments were not politically correct because they were not entirely
sypathetic to the rape victim, and dared to depict that maybe some of them were
stupid in what they did and, while not wanting to be raped, sure invited it.
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>  Going to a frat
>>party alone and getting plowed while wearing sexy clothing virtually assures
>>you will have sex with at least one of the brothers. (Please note, going with a
>>friend, wearing drab clothing, and drinking nothing but coke does NOT decrease
>>the odds to zero.) Now, what they did was wrong, but what she did was stupid.

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	Well, DC, are you ready to admit your error and
	move on or not?

	Personally, I doubt it. Cosgrove is much more interested
	in feeding his ego than anything else, apparently.
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