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From: frotz@dri.com (Frotz)
Subject: Re: Memory management under DRDOS 6.0
Reply-To: frotz@novell.com
Organization: Desktop Systems Group/Novell, Monterey CA/USA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 20:48:58 GMT

west@esd.dl.nec.com (Mike West) writes:

]While killing time in a bookstore this weekend I saw a book
]put out by PC Magazine that was dealing with advanced memory
]management for MSDOS 5.0.  (Sorry, but I can't remember the
]exact title.)  The utility that I was really interested by
]was a driver that claimed to allow EMS on a plain ole 286
](which is of great interest to me because that is what I am
]stuck with for the near future).

]My question for you DRDOS gurus is this:  How compatible would
]this stuff be with DRDOS 6.0?  It looked like it had a lot of
]really neat stuff, but are DRDOS and MSDOS similar enough that
]the stuff would work under DRDOS too?


Unknown.  You can get EMS support on a 286, but the driver that you'll
use will be HIDOS.SYS rather than EMM386.SYS.  My mind is a little
fogged right now, so I couldn't tell you what the major differences
are other than the 286/386 support...  I don't think that there are,
but then again, I've already made my disclaimer. 

]Since this is a relatively specific request, email responses 
]would probably be best.

Try "drdos@novell.com"...
--
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From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:35:16 GMT
Subject: Re: TAR.EXE for MS DOS Problems ... help!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc

kraai4712@iscsvax.uni.edu (jim kraai) writes:

> Good day NetLanders! I'm having trouble un-tar-ing some files. I'm running
> PC-DOS 5.0 on an IBM PS/2 Model 55sx on a Novell Netware (v3.11?) Network.
> 
> All downloaded MS-DOS "tar.exe" files I've tried really go haywire when I
> execute them.  Some of them actually begin creating a file, but for the most
> part the results are not usable (executable or text).

  *Which* tar(1) clones did you try? (i.e. supplier, archive site,
archive file name, author, etc..). I think the tar clone posted along
time ago to comp.binaries.ibm.pc and probably available from SIMTEL (see
comp.binaries.ibm.pc.archives on how to access SIMTEL) was quite OK. I
think it was called PAX or somesuch (Just get the index from SIMTEL and
browse).

  Personally I use the tar clone from the Mortice Kern Systems Toolkit.
If you are used to UNIX then I stongly recommend the MKS Toolkit. It
contains a Korn shell, vi and many, many UNIX utilities. You will feel
quite at home.

Frank Slootweg, UNIX support person and PC owner.
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jej@jyu.fi (Jukka E Jarvinen)
Subject: File transfer by using LPT
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:33:01 GMT


Hi!

Is there any programs (commercial or shareware) for DOS 
to transfer files from one PC to another one via paraller port (LPT)?
-- 

Jukka J{rvinen, jej@jyu.fi
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: sticky shift key, err
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:03:07 GMT

shakib.otaqui@almac.co.uk writes:

>  If you're using QEMM, try putting IA on the QEMM load line.  If
>  you use DOS 5's HIMEM.SYS, try the /a20control:off switch.

 I tried this, after getting the shiftfix (I forgot the propper name
of the file) off oak.oakland.edu.  IA didn't quite fix the problem,
(which usually occurred in WP 5.1, but remained once I exited WP),
If you use WP (which has a history of sticking shift keys), you can
load it with /nc or /nk switches, one of which interferes with the ALT
activation of the pull down menus, the other has worked fine for me.

Question though: Can the use of the alt key in WP5.1 be turned into
an f11 or f12 key, I run under Desqview, and hitting ALT in WP5.1
to activate the pull down menus simulataneously pops me out of the WP
window.  Having the pull downs around is nice, seeing as it's the only 
way to save a document if the shift key sticks.
-- 
-- Pete Hurd, hurd@sfu.ca          |"So I've got this 22Meg output file..." |
Behavioural Ecology Research Group |"Yeah, well delete it."                 |
Dept.Biol.Sci., Simon Fraser Univ. |"But how will I know what it says"      |
Burnaby B.C. V5A 1S6 Canada        |"Well, how will you know what it means?"|
From: colovas@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: HELP! EMM386 won't work!
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:14:15 EDT

I have a new 486/33 and I'm trying to load things into high/expanded memory,
but I'm having problems. when I load EMM386, it gives me a message that
expanded memory services are unavailable. does this not work on a 486 box?
This is DOS 5, BTW. Any help on the matter would be greatly appreciated.
 
________________________________________________
___________________________________________
___________________________________

Peter W. Colovas
Department of Physics
Ohio State University
colovas@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: lptswap
From: phys169@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Date: 4 Sep 92 10:16:58 +1200
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand

In article <hippo.21.0@sonoma.edu>, hippo@sonoma.edu (Michel Davidoff) writes:
> I just found a program called Lptswap.com at ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (128.174.5.59) 
> I think this will swap lptX to lptY 
> Where can I get some docs about this, or does anybody know how it works ?
> I'm trying to swap LPT2 with LPT3

I don't know about that particular one, but I have seen a couple of others,
including this one, swaplpt, for which I have the assembler source...

        title   SwapLpt ; output to lpt1 now goes to lpt2 & vica versa
Code    segment
        assume  cs:code
        org     100h    ; allow .COM
prog:   mov     ax,40h
        mov     ds,ax
        mov     ax,ds:[08h] ; 40:08h contains IO port for LPT1
        xchg    ax,ds:[0Ah] ; 40:0Ah contains IO port for LPT2
        xchg    ax,ds:[08h]
        mov     ah,4Ch
        int     21h
code    ends
        end     prog


The idea is simply to exchange elements in the 4-word array in low memory that
says what the IO port of LPT1, LPT2 and maybe LPT3 & LPT4 is. Most software
takes notice of this, including BIOS print routines (and so all printing that 
goes via DOS files, which is a lot but not all of the PC's printing).

If you only have 2 printers, a similar program, swapping LPT2 with LPT3 would
fail because the BIOS routines could first decide there is no 3rd printer from
the (separate) count of printers, before it reads the port address and checks
it for zero (the other way software can tell). Well, that *might* be what is
happenning, but there can be other reasons.  Some software has the port address
of the printer hard-coded, which is a Bad Thing, since they change depending on
whether you have a mono video adapter (with built-in printer port).  Another
thing is that some versions of DOS might not set up the LPT3 device driver
properly if that device does not seem to exist at start-up.

Of course, there are other ways of changing the printer, at "higher" levels
(affecting less software, but being less hardware-specific), such as closing
the standard printer handle and re-openning it (you wouldn't believe how little
software uses the standard printer handle, though!).

By the way, if you swap LPT4, take care that this hardly ever points to a
physical printer port, but the word is often used for other things on PS/2
computers, etc.

Mark Aitchison, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.
From: Peter.Breuer@prg.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: (none)
Date: 30 Aug 92 12:21:36 GMT
X-Mailer: mail-news 2.0.3

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: Batch command file parameter question
Summary: How does one set a varaiable to a string containing = ?
From: ptb@prg.ox.ac.uk (Peter Breuer)
Reply-To: Peter.Breuer@prg.oxford.ac.uk (Peter Breuer)
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
Keywords:  quotes set string

In article <64900@cup.portal.com> compata@cup.portal.com (David H Close) writes:
| [example deleted]
|
|Is there no way to make this foolish operating system recognize a quoted
|string and treat it as a single parameter?  Alternatively, is there any
|justification for this behavior (besides incompetence)?
|(Email replies preferred.)
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Please summarise to the net. I've been trying for years to think of a
way to set my vi editor-control variable under msdos. I want to

set EXINIT=ai wm=9

(approx) and of course I can't, for the reason you outline: no quotes.
In 4dos, everything is hunky-dory. Just use your favourite quote
characters as usual. Under msh 2.00, all unix solutions also work right.
But under command.com ... ?

Perhaps I should try the latest versions of setenv from the archives?
Perhaps they've been updated to deal with msdos 5.0 by now?

Peter <ptb@uk.ac.ox.comlab>


| Dave Close - Compata - Stockton, California - +1 209 467 8255 ("209-install")
|  dave@compata.attmail.com | compata@mcimail.com | dhclose@alumni.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: in.pc,comp.os.msdos.misc
From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Re: Missing character questions....
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:20:13 GMT

rcbaker@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Bob Baker) writes:

>While working on converting some VERY old DOS files at work, we've
>discovered an interesting dilemma.  When we do a directory listing of
>the files, we see things like:

>H FRAME   TXT   09-01-84  etc., etc.
>S H HOUS  TXT   09-01-84

>Our problem comes when we want to copy these files to other disks.
>Whatever character the blank space is in the directory listing, it
>does not get read in the copy program.  We see:

>HFRAME.TXT - File not found
>0 files copied

>For whatever reason, DOS removes the character that appears in the
>directory, and we are unable to copy our files (let alone read them,
>delete them, rename them, etc.).

>Has anyone seen this problem before?  Better yet, does any one have a
>solution as to how to fix it?

A quick experiment shows that the COPY command does in fact get confused
when presented with a filename with an embedded space.  The error
message does not include the space character.

(This occurs with a real space.  It doesn't require a strange nonprintable
character to trigger the problem.)

OTOH, the ERASE command couldn't care less as long as you can point to the
file without giving the component of the fileid which contains the space.
I created a file named "FbOO.BAR"  ("b" == space); the command:
   COPY *.BAR XXX
failed, complaining about being unable to find "FOO.BAR" (note the space is
gone); but the command:
   ERASE *.BAR
worked fine.

The best solution is probably to use Norton Disk Editor or a similar utility
to patch the directory entry for the file to make the file name legal.

I had to use this workaround on a system which has a dual-boot setup with
MSDOS and OS/2V2: several of the OS/2 files have embedded spaces in both
the filename and extension parts of the fileid.  Using Norton to make these
filenames valid (as well as turning off the hidden and system attributes)
was necessary in order to properly do a Speed Disk run on the system.  (Yes,
I undid the changes afterwords.)

Joe Morris / MITRE
Newsgroups: in.pc,comp.os.msdos.misc
From: m14430@mwunix.mitre.org (Lawrence Larson)
Subject: Re: Missing character questions....
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:02:20 GMT

jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris) writes:

>The best solution is probably to use Norton Disk Editor or a similar utility
>to patch the directory entry for the file to make the file name legal.

A simpler and cheaper tool is Quickfiler (or qfiler or qf, as well as most
other "tag-and-shoot' directory management tools), which allows tagging and
subsequent renaming, copying, moving, or deleting of the tagged files. Of
course, available from Simtel and mirrors...

-- Larry /MITRE2
From: nto2584@dsaca1.dsac.dla.mil (Steven C. Payne;TOS x8291)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: WARNING!!!! major problem with vi and possibly every other app around!  (was: help I don't understand write caches like smartdrive 3.1)
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:06:53 GMT
Organization: Defense Logistics Agency Systems Automation Center, Columbus


yep, !q did just that, unconditionally q.
q is the same in edlin, should it surprise you.

we commonly refer to this as "cockpit error"

have a good day
steve p.
From: compata@cup.portal.com (David H Close)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Batch command file parameter question
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 07:56:43 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

The following simple MS-DOS batch file,

	> type q.bat
	@echo off
	echo %1
	echo %2
	echo %3

yields a result which I find peculiar.  Observe this behavior:

	> q "one two" three
	"one
	two"
	three

Is there no way to make this foolish operating system recognize a quoted
string and treat it as a single parameter?  Alternatively, is there any
justification for this behavior (besides incompetence)?
(Email replies preferred.)

 Dave Close - Compata - Stockton, California - +1 209 467 8255 ("209-install")
  dave@compata.attmail.com | compata@mcimail.com | dhclose@alumni.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: x1gsd@VAX1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Gregory S Delozier)
Subject: MKS Toolkit (Was: Re: TAR.EXE for MS DOS Problems ... help!)
Organization: The University of Akron, Akron, Ohio
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:28:48 GMT

I, like many others, work with Unix all day, and develop DOS software
in my spare time. I'd like to use unix tools on my DOS system, like
a decent shell, the usual utilities and so forth. In reading this
group, I notice that mention has been made of the 'tar' clone in the MKS
toolkit as a solution to 'tar' problems. I'd like to hear some opinions
about the MKS Toolkit ---  
	Is it worth the money?
	Are the Unix-like tools good emulations?
	Does is critically reduce the space available to DOS programs?
		(i.e. is the shell huge?)
	Is there a cheaper way do get the same results? 
...and just general experiences with it...

Is there maybe a mailing list for the MKS Toolkit or users?
Finally, is MKS on the net or email anywhere?

Thanks!

-greg


Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: wai@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Julian Wai)
Subject: UMB_DRVR causes HIMEM to abort
Organization: Murdoch University
Date:  3 Sep 92 02:03:45 GMT

Hi,

I've just upgraded my machine to 386DX and tried to install the UMB_DRVR.
The UMB driver installed ok but then Himem.sys reports an error :

	ERROR: An Extended Memory Manger is already installed....

Can anyone give me any suggestions of what I did wrong?  My config.sys
file looks like :

	device=c:\umb_drvr.sys /C=09
	devicehight=c:\himem.sys

Many thanks,
julian
wai@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au
From: markf@atlastele.com (Mark Ferris)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Re: How to Un write protect a stacker volume
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:55:45 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.msdos.misc
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.

In article <1992Aug19.212156.19397@nosc.mil> discar@nosc.mil (Joe Discar) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.144120.27518@klaava.Helsinki.FI> jliukkon@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Juha-Matti Liukkonen) writes:
>>In <1992Aug18.155027.1941@regina.cs.uregina.ca> wall@hercules writes:
>>
>>>Could some please give me the command that will let me un write 
>>>protect my stacker volume and drive.  Thanks.  
>>
>
>Boot up a regular DOS (or comment out the .SYS's in the config.sys).  There
>will be a hidden file (I forget the name) that represents the Stacker volume
>(you can use an disk utility to see it)--change the file's attribute from
>read only to r/w.  

This I haven't tried, but another method that does work (I know, I
had to use it just today :-(  ) is scheck /=w  (no, the = isn't a mistake).

This will alter the write protect also.  Of course, though, it won't
fix the problem that caused the volume to be write-protected.


-- 
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Atlas Telecom                       VOICE: [USA] 1+503.228.1400 x242
4640 SW Macadam Ave.                FAX1:  [USA] 1+503.225.5518
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL)
Subject: Re: Any good VT emulators out there?
Originator: dspascha@c00131-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: dspascha@eos.ncsu.edu (DAVID SCOTT PASCHAL)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 01:16:24 GMT


In article <1992Sep3.163105.28212@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, w8sdz@tacom-emh1.army.mil (Keith Petersen) writes:
|> 
|> sci240s@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Wey Jing HO) writes:
|> >Can anyone recommend a good VT emulator for use to communicate with
|> >Unix mainframe via modem? Doesn't matter whether it is PD/Shareware/
|> >Commercial as long as it is good. Also, doesn't matter the OS; can be
|> >MS-DOS, Windows 3.x, OS/2 or even SCO Unix.
|> >
|> >Is there any reasonable VT-220 emulator for PC running MS-DOS to hook
|> >up to an ICL Unix x86 box? (This is a separate question)
|> 
|> MS-Kermit does excellent VT102/VT220/VT320 emulation.
|> 
|> WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL directory PD1:<MSDOS.KERMIT>
|>  Filename   Type Length   Date    Description
|> ==============================================
|> MSKER311.ZIP  B  186841  911001  MS-Kermit v3.11 comm pgm for IBM-compatibles
|> 

[..]

|> 
|> Keith
|> --
|> Keith Petersen
|> Maintainer of the MS-DOS archive at WSMR-SIMTEL20.Army.Mil [192.88.110.20]
|> Internet: w8sdz@TACOM-EMH1.Army.Mil     or      w8sdz@vela.acs.oakland.edu
|> Uucp: uunet!umich!vela!w8sdz                         BITNET: w8sdz@OAKLAND
|> 

Hi.  I've had a bit of trouble with Kermit 3.x with respect to VT emulation.
Specifically, when I log into a certain VAX, after it says when my last
interactive and non-interactive logins were, I get a string of at least 50
linefeeds or something.  This doesn't happen with previous versions of Kermit
or any other emulator (Windows terminal, Pathworks SETHOST, etc.).  I think it
may be a problem with the VAX's trying to autodetect the terminal type.  Also,
the TPU editor isn't happy unless I say SET TERM/DEV=VT100 -- otherwise, I get
a lot of garbage on the screen and messages saying "invalid escape sequence."
Has anybody else had this problem?  Perhaps it's something wrong with our
(not NCSU's) VAX auto login sequence, or maybe this version of KERMIT mentioned
above fixes this bug.

Tschuess,
David Paschal
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc
From: dmacneil@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: PC-NFS and AccPac
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:52:58 GMT

I'm having problems getting an accounting program called
AccPac (Computer Associates Ltd.) to run properly with
PC-NFS 4.0a and a SunSparc2 server.

Is anybody else using this program with PC-NFS 4.0a?

My specific problem seems to be with file locking and
sharing. AccPac does not support PC-NFS directly so
I'm caught in a bit af a void.

Any help would be greatly appreciated. Specifically with
directory protections on the SunSparc and the DOS setup on
the PC end.

Thanks.

-----------------------------------------------------------
David MacNeil
St.John's, Newfoundland, Canada
dmacneil@kean.ucs.mun.ca
From: franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:03:17 GMT
Subject: Re: SSTOR Woes 8-( help....
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.misc

derek@ibmpcug.co.uk (Derek Jones) writes:

>I had another problem with my sstor drive yesterday (grrr). Most of the
>time it works just fine. From time to time (it's happend twice now in the
>space of a couple of months), a whole directory entry gets munged and neither
>sstor's repair facility nor chkdsk will fix it. Now, the first time it happened
>I used ndd (even though I know it says you shouldn't), and it worked
>very well, recovered the files and dirs, (followed by unerase).
>
>This time not even ndd would access the directory structure properly. It
>offered to move it to another spot, which I accepted, and it then failed
>all over.
>
>PCTOOLS (v6) diskfix did the job however (Yeeeaahh!), *BUT* the sstor
>stats now appear to be wrong. 8-( . All the data is still on the disk
>(100Mb SCSI Harcard, [Time, UK]), but the disk stats report only
>13Mb used, when I know that there's nearly "120Mb" roughly used of the
>sstor container. Neither ssutil nor chkdsk report any errors in *anything*.
>The system is working (perfectly?!?) happily, and my other 86 Mb IDE drive
>is unaffected. (I boot DOS from the IDE drive).
>
>Now, I guess it's something to do with a different cluster size used
>by diskfix and sstor.  *ANY GUESSES* ?

  I understand that you have the normal retail SuperSTOR product and
probably MS-DOS 5.0. I have DR DOS 6.0 with the (stripped) bundled
SuperSTOR version and PC Tools 6.0.

  I never had the problems which you have, but have had problems which
(the DR DOS 6.0) CHKDSK could not fix, but which DISKFIX could fix. If
the SSTOR or (DR DOS 6.0) CHKDSK output was "strange", I always could
get it back to normal by running (the DR DOS 6.0) DISKOPT and rebooting
the machine (which causes the SuperSTOR partition to be re-attached).
I do not know if the CHKDSK and DISKOPT (a (PC Tools) COMPRESS-like)
program) supplied with DR DOS 6.0 are the same as those supplied with
the normal retail SuperSTOR product. I do know that both these DR DOS
6.0 programs are SuperSTOR-smart.

  I hope this helps. If you need further help then please give details,
i.e. command and options used, output from commands, etc.. Please note
that I only have the stripped product, i.e. the SuperSTOR driver, the
device_letter_swapper and the SSTOR, XDIR, CHKDSK and DISKOPT commands
(I think that's it. I have the PC and manual at home.).

Frank Slootweg