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Subject: Re: Where in the world is...
From: pmbarlow@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (The Candy Guru)
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:23:26 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Nov21.050656.7109@crc.ricoh.com>, shahryar@crc.ricoh.com (Shahryar G. Hashemi) writes:
> Dear all,
> Does anyone know what happened to Tully Blanchard, Ronny "Hands of
> Stone" Garvin and Jimmy Garvin??  Also is Sid coming back or what?

This post should be a nominee for the "Yes, I read some posts before I post
myself" award.  And all this information has been batted around on this
newsgroup within the past week... so to sum up...

* Tully Blanchard is now a preacher, and he has no intentions of ever wrestling
  again.  I suggest we book a "Hallelujah Hoedown" match between him and Slick
  if we get a chance...

* Jimmy Garvin has already taped several interview segments, and probably a few
  matches as well, for the WWF.  He'll be appearing after Survivor Series.

* Ronnie Garvin was last seen in the Smoky Mountain area, continuing a longtime
  feud with Paul Orndorff... however, Ronnie was mentioned in passing recently
  on, I believe, WCW Saturday Night, which is the promotion where Orndorff is
  headed.  Chances are, Garvin will follow him there.

* Sid Vicious Justice Eudy will probably start wrestling again as soon as
  softball uninvents itself... and as soon as he learns that you're not
  supposed to study for a urine test.


The Candy Guru.
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From: rschwabe@brahms.udel.edu (Robert Josep Schwabe)
Subject: Re: CoC Results
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:29:35 GMT

In article <Bxy1yL.LKz@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:
>  Watts & Sasaki vs Eaton & Anderson
>  Watts gets Bobby to submit with STF.  Great to see Watts giving A&E a push
>now that they are staying :(
What do you mean, they're staying.  Nobody posted this!!!!  Is this true (please oh please, oh please, oh please say that it is true!!!!!!!!!!!!)

Robert J. Schwabe- Fuck it it's too early in the morning to put something here!

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From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: Ultimate Warrior
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 06:01:43 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In <92328.153624C09615DJ@wuvmd.wustl.edu> C09615DJ@wuvmd.wustl.edu writes:

+>I'm sorry but I haven't read this group in a while.  I have a question
+>though, why is the  Ultimate Warrior out of the Surviors Series.  I turned
+>on wrestling about 5 minutes late, and all they were talking about
+>was Perfect taking his place.  They never said what happened to him.
+>I was just wondering if someone could tell me?

	I heard he died of a steriod overdose or a heart attack.
From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Perfect face turn
Keywords: Fer real?
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:32:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.BxxA2s.1yA
Organization: Purdue University


  Okay, so Perfect is teaming with Savage, leaving two options


1) Perfect face turn is for real.  

2) This is plan C, and Perfect will ambush Savage during the match.


  2 works better.  Savage can get hurt and be forced to take time off (as
he is going to do).  This would enable Curt to just not tag in, leaving him
to not take any bumps and risk an injury (also not "wrestle" if there still
is an insurance threat).

  The major problems I have with 2 are fist that if they do this, and Savage
is hurt to the point of having to take time off, who will step up and take
Savage's place?  You can'T just have a face leave, you need someone to take
over the fued (ex, Sid Justice taking over the Jake Roberts fued for Randy/
Ultimate Warrior).
  The other problem I have is, when was the last time the WWF did a fake
turn?  Orndorff was a face for a long time before he turned on Hogan.  So
this would be original for Vince.  Also, the next time he did want to turn
a heel to a face (as rumored Kamala is going to do) he might not get the fan
support, as they will be wary of the last time a heel supposedly became good,
only to beat the snot out of his partner at Survivor Series.
  It makes more sense to have Perfect become a face, they need another face
with Savage leaving, someone who can step right in a fued with Flair & Ramon.

			Fippster 6
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Re: Perfect face turn
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:15:34 GMT

In article <mFeguB1w163w@peewee> peewee@infoserv.com (Hugh G. Rection) writes:

   >What about option 3?  Some audience member comes out to make the save,
   >but after the save, Marty Janetty comes out of nowhere, does a heel
   >turn, and proceeds to pull down the guys' pants and sodomize him.

   >Then Janetty reverts back to his NAMBLA days, pulls out some young boy 
   >from the audience, copulates the young boy, defacates on him, and finally
   >gives him a golden shower to rinse him off.

   >Then Scary Sherry comes by and licks up the entire mess from the boy and
   >the ring.  Then she gives birth inside the ring, and swings the umbilical
   >cord like a lasso, dancing to the tune of "Sexy Boy", set to a 4/4 back-
   >beat, in an uptempo country two-step.

   >--Hugh G. Rection

Bwahahahahah!  Funny post, but... wait... This isn't alt.tasteless!
What am I doing here?  What newsgroup is this.  Help!  Let me outta
here!




-Alan Harder
 American Mathematical SOciety
 Michigan Fan
 Drinker of Anchor Steam 

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From: lhstone@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Louis "Big Lou" Stone)
Subject: Re: Henning to team with Savage ??
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:07:39 GMT


You are stretching things too far.

1.  Just because Curt Henning is Savage's tag partner does _NOT_ mean
    he will be wrestling.

a.  It could be a part of a hideous plot by Flair-Perfect-Ramon to end
    Savage's wrestling career.

b.  It could be a way to separate Flair and Ramon.  Flair would have a
    conflict of interests with Ramon over his former EXCUTIVE CONSULTANT
    and maybe do a brief run as a face.. *****OF COURSE THIS IS STRETCHING
    THINGS MORE THAN YOU DID*****  -- But a guy can dream.....


2.  I am sure that with the insurance thing, McMahon would have had a 
    team of lawyers on that since day one anyway.  Maybe something came
    of it.  Maybe McMahon paid the insurance company the money.  Who knows?

If it is 1-a  then look for Backlund to make the save and set up a feud with
Flair, to take over for the Ultimate Roider.

Just my humble thought.



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From: chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Palacios)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: ULTIMATE WARRIOR REPLACED AT SURVIVOR SERIES BY...
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:21:02 GMT
Reply-To: chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Palacios)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin
Originator: chrispy@sleepy.cc.utexas.edu


Mr. Perfect!!!  Just heard from a inside source.  Here's some
more news...

- Ultimate Warrior is going to be "injured", thus taking him out
  of the main event.

- In the IWGP, Muta will wrestle Sting, and the Steiners will
  wrestle Norton and Halme

- Jeff Jarrett and Jerry Lawler will cameo in a Michael J. Fox
  film

No word on the contract disputes between Bulldog, Warrior, and Vince.


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From: eoates@us.oracle.com
Subject: Re: PERFECT TEAMS w/ SAVAGE
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:11:29 GMT
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In article <Nov.16.22.56.28.1992.4332@pilot.njin.net>, langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein) writes:
> It was announced 5 minutes ago, Perfect is replacing the Warrior as
> the Macho Man's partner in Survivor Series. I was told that the
> Warrior asked for too much money and was fired [again].
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I missed Wrestling Challance and the beginning of Prime Time: what did Vince
(or whoever) give as the official reason UW is out?  After all of the "friends
forever" Ultimate Maniacs hype, there must be some reason.  I assume Vince
didn't say, "Jim Hellwig asked for a raise.  In our evaluation of his workrate
and drawing capabilities, we determined that he was ranked, overall, in the
middle third of our workforce.  His salary demands could not be justified in
our cost/benefit analysis, so we let him go." 
-- 
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From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: PERFECT TEAMS w/ SAVAGE
Keywords: survivor Series
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:56:28 GMT
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.

It was announced 5 minutes ago, Perfect is replacing the Warrior as
the Macho Man's partner in Survivor Series. I was told that the
Warrior asked for too much money and was fired [again].
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From: jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson)
Subject: Re: Wrestler's Real Names
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:11:08 GMT

In article <20NOV199208494667@utarlg.uta.edu> b706zdj@utarlg.uta.edu (VICCI VARNER) writes:
>In article <20NOV199208375653@utarlg.uta.edu>, b706zbh@utarlg.uta.edu (Darin Brown) writes...

>>Elizabeth             The First Lady       Elizabeth Poffo 30/5
>>   
>>                              Darin Brown

>Notice that Randy Savage's last name is Poffo as well as Elizabeth's. By 
>th[e] way, they've been married for 10 years!!!!!!

Yea..... I put in the FAQ last month that they were divorced.... Maybe this
deserves more than a casual comment since it seems to get a lot of traffic.

BTW i will post an outline of the FAQ when i get back.
Also, i will mail a beta copy to whoever asks (ive receieved a few requests)

Thanks for your help.

Jeremy



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From: b706zbh@utarlg.uta.edu (Darin Brown)
Subject: Wrestler's Real Names
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:37:00 GMT

Here's a list of wrestler's real names and other names they've wrestled under..

WRESTLING NAME       OTHER NAMES           REAL NAME      AGE/YEARS PRO
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Akeem                 African Dream        George Gray     44/21
                      One Man Gang
Andre the Giant       The Eighth Wonder    Andre Rousimoff 44/26
Barbarian             Powers of Pain       John Fuvola     34/10
                      Konga the Barbarian
Beefcake, Brutus      The Barber           Ed Leslie       32/13
                      The Dream Team
                      Ed Boulder
Big Boss Man          Big Bubba Rogers     Raymond Traylor 27/5
Bravo, Dino           Canadian Strongman   Adolpho Brescino 43/22
Brooklyn Brawler      Steve Lombardi       Steve Lombardi  28/6
Brunzell, Jim         Jumping Jim          James Brunzell  41/18
                      Killer Bees
                      High Flyers
Demolition Ax         ?? Machine           William Eadie   5?/19
                      Masked Superstar
Demolition Crush      Brian Adams          Brian Adams     27/4
Demolition Smash      Krusher Kruschev     Barry Darsow    30/8
DiBiase, Ted          Million Dollar Man   Ted DiBiase     37/17
Douglas, Shane        Dynamic Dudes        Troy Martin     25/4
Duggan, Jim           Hacksaw              James Duggan    37/13
Earthquake            Canadian Earthquake  John Tenta      27/4
Elizabeth             The First Lady       Elizabeth Poffo 30/5
Garvin, Ronnie        Rugged               Roger Barnes    48/28
                      Hands of Stone       
Haku                  Colossal Connection  Uliuli Fifita   31/13
                      Islanders
                      King Tonga
Hart, Bret            Hitman               Hart, Bret      33/14
                      Hart Foundation
Hart, Jimmy           Mouth of the South   Hart, Jimmy     47/13
Heenan, Bobby         Brain, Weasel        Raymond Heenan  47/24
Henning, Curt         Mr. Perfect          Curt Henning    32/12
Hercules              Hercules Hernandez   Ray Hernandez   33/11
Hilibilly Jim                              James Morris    33/8
Hulk Hogan            Sterling Golden      Terry Bollea    37/14
                      Terry Boulder
Honkytonk Man         Rhythm & Blues       Roy Ferris      37/14
                      Wayne Ferris


       I've got 3 more pages that I'll post later on the WWF and NWA if anyone 
 wants me too.  Let me know at cs1441fw@decster.uta.edu 
  or b706zbh@utarlg.uta.edu

                                 Let me know,
                                 Darin Brown
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:09:14 EST
From: Shawn Pearce <SAP120@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: All this SWF crap

For that matter, why don't you say anything about the FWF that I see running
around the net.............

I'm not flaming the FWF (neat idea), but I am saying don't flame one non-wrestl
ing post without flaming ALL of them.

My $.02
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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Erik Watts/STF/Masahiro Chono Bashing
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:54:44 GMT

robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen) writes:

>Plus, I think he *is* showing a ton of improvement.

A ton of...?  The biggest reason many people are bitching about Erik
is that he's getting a big push too early.  I believe he'll be a
good wrestler someday, but WCW is doing too much for him.

>And--you fucking brain surgeons out there (there's at least two of
>you) who call Erik's finisher a stupid move and don't even know
>the move--it's called the Stepover Toehold Facelock, or STF, and
>is the favorite submission finisher of current NWA world champ
>Masahiro Chono.  And people *always* submit to it in Japan.  So, it's
>an over move.  C'mon guys, whaddya want--a legdrop finisher?

I thought it was good to let him learn that move, but unfortunately,
the majority of the fans in this country don't seem to care for the
submission moves unless it is the unperfect scorpion deathlock by
Hart or Stink.

>On the subject of Chono, any idiot out there who has said he sucks
>just because the only matches *you've* seen him in are US style WCW 
>events, lighten up!  He really is good.  If WCW had showed the entire
>first Rude/Chono match (at Sumo Hall), you'd see this; however, it
>seemed they just tried to get Rude over with highlights of the ref
>"distracting" him...  Anyway, look for Chono vs. Muta at Starrcade to
>steal the show, especially if they go at it NJPW style, which they
>should.

That's THE good question. Will they be allowed to have the NJ style
match?  If they will, why weren't Chono and Rude?  For the expected
match quality, this match should be the main event. Then again, this
is America, and they don't wanna show that those Japanese wrestlers are
much better.

>Sorry, bad day.  What's getting old to me on this group is people
>bitching about Watts too much, announcing Perfect's face change too much 
>(we fucking know, and some of us *don't care*), announcing UW and
>BB leaving WWF too much, fighting over which fictional shit is okay
>to post here and what isn't, fighting over who's a "net.god" (NOBODY, 
>okay kids?), and Stromer, who is obviously a schizophrenic with latent
>tendencies (who else gets asked to leave the net, fired for posts, returns
>a year later and *apologizes*, then attacks again?).  The signal-to-noise
>ratio is getting out of hand again here, IMHO (and in this post)...

I agree with you except that we just can't stop bitching about Watts until
he shows something good for the WCW.  If they don't let Muta & Chono to have
a great match, it's time for me to give up WCW.
-- 
Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas
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From: peewee@infoserv.com (Hugh G. Rection)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Perfect face turn
Keywords: Fer real?
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:19:45 PST
Distribution: world
Organization: Citizens Against Rootslurping

	>Okay, so Perfect is teaming with Savage, leaving two options
	>1) Perfect face turn is for real.  
	>2) This is plan C, and Perfect will ambush Savage during the match.

	>2 works better.  Savage can get hurt and be forced to take time off 
	>(as he is going to do).  This would enable Curt to just not tag in, 
	>leaving him to not take any bumps and risk an injury (also not 
	>"wrestle" if there still is an insurance threat).

What about option 3?  Some audience member comes out to make the save,
but after the save, Marty Janetty comes out of nowhere, does a heel
turn, and proceeds to pull down the guys' pants and sodomize him.

Then Janetty reverts back to his NAMBLA days, pulls out some young boy 
from the audience, copulates the young boy, defacates on him, and finally
gives him a golden shower to rinse him off.

Then Scary Sherry comes by and licks up the entire mess from the boy and
the ring.  Then she gives birth inside the ring, and swings the umbilical
cord like a lasso, dancing to the tune of "Sexy Boy", set to a 4/4 back-
beat, in an uptempo country two-step.

--Hugh G. Rection
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From: MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice)
Subject: Re: Random Musings (WWF/WCW)
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 11:37:44 EST

In article <1992Nov14.195352.5794@nmsu.edu>
pc_fool@acca.nmsu.edu (PC-Fool) writes:
 
>As far as the Steiners jumping, I say let them.
>  [...]  They be a perfect fit in Vince's "new"
>approach to giving workers the straps. Vince hasn't had an babyface
>team over in years. (Probably since the Hart Foundation.)
 
You don't think the LoD were over as a face team?  If the Steiners
come in, I think they should be heels.  Vince needs a strong heel
team as much as he needs a good face team, and the Steiners have
the advantage of being easily turnable if they come in as heels.
 
maurice
                                                 Maurice Forrester
                                                 mjforres@suvm.syr.edu
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From: tpjg9663@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Johnston)
Subject: Did Vince mention UW quitting?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:50:13 GMT

How was the subject of the Ultimate Warrior skipping 
SS handled?  Did Vince (or anyone) say that UW had
quit, had been fired, had been injured, or had gone back
to sit on a hill until the voices he hears tells him
that Hulk Hogan needs his help again?

Tom
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: While we're on the subjec
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:42:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

Aaron,

ATB> Maybe what Cowpie and McMoney need to do is to look for some of those youn
   > stars from some of the other independant promotions, and try to push them

   > 1) Kerry Von Erich - Although we all know about his problems, if McMoney w

Bad move.  The guy has been busted for forging drug subscriptions and
has had a longtime substance abuse problem.

ATB>2) Jushin "Thunder" Liger - It's a shame that WCW let him go. Next to Muta,
   >   IMHO, he is one of the better wrestlers out of Japan that could be pushe
   >   to superstar status in the US.

Actually, he is better than Keiji Muto.  He was not let go.  WCW and New
Japan have a working relationship and he could come back at pretty much
anytime.
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From: eoates@us.oracle.com
Subject: Re: WWF Update (with a Jake update)
Organization: Oracle Corporation, USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:09:47 GMT
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In article <1e5dr1INNhg0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne) writes:
> 
> I listened to the "Wrestling Insiders" radio show last night.  Here are
> a few things:
> 
> Savage's divorce from Elizabeth was supposedly mentioned in a recent WWF
> magazine (can anyone confirm?).
> 
> That's all I can think of so far...
> ,
> 
> -- 
> ===============Joel Tscherne:  ac985@cleveland.freenet.edu===============

Yes, WWF Mag. verifies the divorce, and says that they wanted handle it
privately, implying that's why no one said anything.  Touching handwritten note
to Liz from Randy.  Sniff...

A side note: Mean Gene mentioned Pepper Gomez twice on the Event Center from
Oakland Channel 2 during consecutive week's Superstars!  I used to watch him
programmed against Ray Stevens during the early sixties.  Anyone know what ol'
PepperBelly is up to?
-- 
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