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From: carolyn@usenix.ORG (Carolyn Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: USENIX Student Grant Application
Keywords: USENIX Association
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:45:26 GMT
Organization: Usenix Association Office, Berkeley


            USENIX Systems Administration Conference
			   LISA VI	
		 Student Grant Application Form

The Association will award a limited number of grants (to cover travel,
accommodations and registration fees) to full-time students interested
in attending the USENIX Systems Administration Conference, LISA VI, 
October 19-23, 1992 in Long Beach, California.

Interested full-time students should return this form together with a
copy of their current student identification to:

	  	          Diane DeMartini 
		 	USENIX Association
		   2560 Ninth Street, Suite 215
			Berkeley, CA 94710

NOTE:  We cannot consider your application without a copy of your
current student identification card.

Applications must arrive by September 1, 1992.

If you have not yet received information about registration,
please contact the USENIX conference office at tel: 714/588-8649.

_______________________________________________________
Name  
______________________________________________________
Street Address 
_____________________________________________________
City,  State,  Zip Code
___________________________    ______________________
Phone number		       e-mail address
____________________________
Academic institution

Expense Request (Please estimate as best you can.)

Travel:			_________

Accommodation:		_________

Registration fees:
Technical sessions - $75.________

Total Requested:	$_________

___________________________________
Date / Signature

Are you presenting a paper at this conference? ____ yes
Have you ever received a USENIX Student Grant? ___ yes ____ no ____ date
Are you a member of USENIX Association?  ____ yes    ____ no

As a student, you may receive regular member benefits for only
$20.  If you are interested, please contact office@usenix.org.
From: ellie@usenix.ORG (Ellie Young)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: Re: Whither SAGE?
Summary: ..
	 ..
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:29:20 GMT
Organization: Usenix Association Office, Berkeley

> >
> > [ I plunked down my $25 and haven't heard a thing from SAGE since ]
> 
> Just for the record, I haven't heard anything from them either.  I think I
> mailed my application about a month ago.
> 
> -- 
> John Opalko
> 


We did receive your application for membership in SAGE.  Since we
are having to update our database and create a new field in it
to handle STG and SAGE memberships, we have not yet sent out
acknowledgement forms.  Hopefully we will have this update completed
in the next two weeks.

As a SAGE member, you will be able to participate in the 
upcoming elections scheduled later this Fall, and also are
invited to participate at the various SAGE meetings scheduled
for the LISA conference.   You will be receiving information on
upcoming events and plans early this Fall.   More benefits will 
most likely be added in the near future, so your participation at 
the early stages of SAGE's development is appreciated (and will
hopefully allow you a chance to help shape its future direction).

Ellie Young
Executive Director
USENIX Assocation
From: john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: Re: Whither SAGE?
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:27:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: n7kbt.4067
Organization: Two strange people in Forest Grove, OR

In article <59783@mimsy.umd.edu> pete@cs.umd.edu (Pete Cottrell) writes:
>
> [ I plunked down my $25 and haven't heard a thing from SAGE since ]

Just for the record, I haven't heard anything from them either.  I think I
mailed my application about a month ago.

-- 
John Opalko

john@n7kbt.rain.com  -or-  wi.5327@wizvax.methuen.ma.us
From: vince@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (David Vincenzetti)
Subject: UNIX SECURITY SYMPOSIUM * BOOK HELP!
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:32:36 GMT

Please help me. I will join the Symposium and I would like having a list
of the available hotels in Baltimores, in order to book a room from Italy.
I would prefer hotels cheaper than the Sheraton, any hint will be higtly
appreciated!

Ciao,	David
-- 
David Vincenzetti -*- vince@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (PK available by finger)
From: pete@mimsy.umd.edu (Pete Cottrell)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: Re: Whither SAGE?
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:18:10 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742


	Steve and Bryan, thanks for your followups, they have provided
a lot of information. After my posting, I received a letter containing
Elizabeth's posting from June about the various working groups, so it
is the case that I missed the initial discusssion via newsgroups. I
have also received a few messages from others who were at the Usenix
or who had heard of SAGE but who also were wondering what was happening.
I think that the postings we've had here the last 2 days have filled in
a lot of details and hopefully we'll have more open discussion and 
participation towards making SAGE a viable entity. Thanks again.

		Pete
-- 
Spoken: Pete Cottrell 	UUCP: uunet!mimsy!pete      INTERNET: pete@cs.umd.edu  
Phone: 301-405-2749	USPS: U of Maryland, CS Dept., College Park, Md 20742
From: jessea@homecare.com (Jesse W. Asher)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: When/where is the next LISA conference?
Date: 22 Aug 92 13:09:57 GMT
Organization: G.O.D Inc.

Could someone tell me when and where the next LISA conference is?  Is
there a particular theme?  Thanks.
-- 
      Jesse W. Asher                                   Phone: (901)762-6000
                         Varco-Pruden Buildings
	      6000 Poplar Ave., Suite 400, Memphis, TN  38119
 Internet: jessea@homecare.COM                 UUCP: ...!banana!homecare!jessea
From: ellie@usenix.ORG (Ellie Young)
Newsgroups: comp.org.usenix
Subject: Re: UNIX SECURITY SYMPOSIUM * BOOK HELP!
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:37:22 GMT
Organization: Usenix Association Office, Berkeley

In article <1992Aug21.093236.5182@ghost.dsi.unimi.it>, vince@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (David Vincenzetti) writes:

> Please help me. I will join the Symposium and I would like having a list
> of the available hotels in Baltimores, in order to book a room from Italy.
> I would prefer hotels cheaper than the Sheraton, any hint will be higtly
> appreciated!
> 
> Ciao,	David
> -- 
> David Vincenzetti -*- vince@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (PK available by finger)



Dear David,

As stated in our recent postings to this newsgroup, most of
hotels located in the nearby area of the Security Symposium's
headquarters hotel the Sheraton) are sold out.   The Association 
would very much like to urge you  and other attendees to stay at 
the the symposium's headquarters (Shearton), for the following reason:

USENIX events place a heavy demand on hotel meeting space. 
What USENIX does is make an agreement with the hotel where the 
meeting is being held that in exchange for a guaranteed minimum 
number of rooms rented by attendees, the hotel will throw in meeting 
space and other services at no direct cost to USENIX.   These
contracts contain penalty clauses if we fail to fulfill our commitment 
to the hotel.  The hotel industry is fairly close knit, and word gets 
out quickly about groups that can't live up to their contracts.  Such 
groups may have trouble getting space, or may have to pay a higher rate.

There are a couple of consequences of this arrangement.  One is that it 
is important that when you make your reservation that you state that
it is in conjunction with the USENIX Conference, and that you pay the
USENIX rate, so we get credit towards fulfilling our room block 
commitment.  (Even if you use a large corporation's discounted rate, 
it will not count as a credit towards the USENIX commitment).  Another
consequence is that a widespread defection from our headquarters hotel
will lead to higher registration fees for everybody.  

USENIX does its utmost to get the lowest possible conference
rates at the headquarters hotel.  However, recognizing that not 
everyone can, or wants to, be in the headquarters
hotel(s), we try to choose sites that have less expensive hotels in the
neighborhood.  We also encourage roomsharing (comp.org.usenix.roomshare
is good for this purpose).
Xref: sparky comp.org.usenix:853 comp.org.sug:352 comp.org.uniforum:21 comp.misc:3218 comp.os.misc:768
From: tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen)
Subject: Re: designing my own TRUE
Organization: Waterloo Engineering Software
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:14:15 GMT

> SO> .If you want to DESIGN fonts, you'll probably be *purchasing* Fontographer
>   > .for a hefty 500 bucks, at least.

dick.zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dick Zeitlin)  writes:
> The latest MacWarehouse catalog has Fontographer 3.5 for $265.
> Fontmonger, as you thought, is strictly a conversion program.  It's $95.

As has been pointed out before, this is incorrect.  While FontMonger isn't
as *good* for designing fonts as Fontographer, it does work and let you
create new characters and even entire new fonts.  No manual hinting capabi-
lity, though (although it does do autohinting).

As far as I can tell, FontMonger has three advantages over Fontographer:
	1. It's cheap.  ~$95 now, and I got mine before the price went up.  :)
	2. It does more format conversions, I think.
	3. It's available for PCs (Windows) NOW, not just Real Soon Now.

That said, I don't think FontMonger and Fontographer are competing tools.
As I see it, Fontographer is aimed at the professional type designer, while
FontMonger is for casual users who want to convert some fonts and maybe add
some characters to existing fonts (or maybe create a custom symbol font).

Oh, and AllType is for people who want to thoroughly mangle their fonts.  :)

[ \tom haapanen    "i don't even know what street canada is on" -- al capone ]
[ tomh@wes.on.ca                   "trust the programmer" -- ansi c standard ]
[ waterloo engineering software      "to thine own self be true" -- polonius ]
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: hardiman@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul V Hardiman)
Subject: Re: SWFTE Typecase
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:55:01 GMT

In article <oneil.714012630@cwis> oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
>dhosek@hmcvax.claremont.edu writes:
>
>>In article <4811@dove.nist.gov>, gilligan@bldrdoc.gov (Jonathan Gilligan 303-497-3861) writes:
>>> In article <oneil.713599413@cwis> oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil) writes:
>>>>For most purposes, one would want to use a 12 point type anyway.  In my
>>>>opinion, even 10 is a bit small for most purposes because it is somewhat
>>>>difficult to read.
>> 
>>> But if your principle text is set in 12 point, then super and
>>> subscripts will be set at a smaller size (typically 9 pt or so), as
>>> will footnotes. Super and subscripts in footnotes will be set at a
>>> smaller size (about 6 pt). Since I do a lot of technical typesetting
>>> (lots of equations), a document set with 12 pt type for the principal
>>> face will contain lots of 9 pt and 6 pt type, so it's necessary to
>>> have good-looking type at far smaller sizes than I use for the main
>>> text.
>
>First of all, I rarely, if ever, have the need to use superscripts or 
>subscripts.  (I generally use the MLA format for writing papers, which
>eliminates the need for footnotes.  I cite author and page parenthetically.
>
>>To further muddy the waters, I would claim that other than
>>single-column printing on US Letter paper or A4, 12 pt is
>>distinctly too large for most text applications.
>
>For most of my purposes, 12 point is just about right.  I almost never
>have the need for a font smaller than that.  I have just about perfect
>vision and I think that an 8 or 10 point letter looks like you're trying
>to cram something on the page.  (For word-processed or desktop published
>documents.)
>
>>On the other
>>hand, with most of the piece-of-crud editing facilities provided
>>by WYSIWYG systems, anything smaller than 12pt is distinctly
>>illegible on-screen (gosh, what a surprise, the typography for
>>on-screen viewing at 70-100dpi is different than that for
>>printing at 300+dpi!) so perhaps that's the driving force. Sigh.
>>Anyway, you'll be hard pressed to find many books aimed at adult
>>readers typeset entirely in 12pt and larger.
>
>A book is /not/ the same as a word-processed or desktop-published
>document.  
>
>Sharon O'Neil
>oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu
>
>


Why is this discussion limited to even point sizes?  I once read an
article in one of the desktop publishing magazines that pointed out
that much printed material is done in 11 point, which some studies
revealed is appropriate for most people.  Since then I've done almost
all my printed material in 11 point, and have found it comfortable.

Paul Hardiman
University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
hardiman@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: cxf12@po.CWRU.Edu (Christopher Fenton)
Subject: Font Editor/Convertor
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 92 14:19:40 GMT


	Does anybody know of a package that will let me convert 
Mac and Apple fonts to either Laserjet or Deskjet fonts???  I 
would also like to be able to resize and edit them. 

	Please e-mail me any suggestions.  


	Thanks....



	C. H. Fenton


-- 
    cxf12          ---===<<< A I S Computer Operations >>>===---
@po.cwru.edu               Case Western Reserve University
Christopher H. Fenton    "Faster Pussycat... Kill, Kill!!!!"
From: hho@usc.edu (*** N.T.K.C.D. ***)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: FOnts
Date: 13 Aug 1992 07:27:58 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

I have both Fontmonger 1.0 and Fontographer 3.1 on the Mac.
Problem is I want to edit Truetype fonts for the PC :-))
Is it possible? Any conversion needed? :_)

ALso, Someone mentioned BGI fonts which has an editor buildin..
(BTW, it is available on wuarchive)

Is that thing any help in editing TT fonts? :-)

Last question :-) I know that *.ttf is the TT fonts,
what is the *.fot?? If ther is a FAQ on all the fonts,
please send one to me :_)
Thanks
H.



-- 
*******************************************************************************
Hung P. Ho, Jr. (John)     USC DENTISTRY    PH.SYSTEMS          CCCOGP  
                           hho@usc.edu      hung@phsys.com      hung@cccogp.com
From: bkph@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Changing Font Names in Windows
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:51:38 GMT
	<DMANDL.92Aug19111832@bilbo.shearson.com> <6642@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM> <DMANDL.92Aug21100410@bilbo.shearson.com>
Distribution: usa
In-reply-to: dmandl@bilbo.shearson.com's message of 21 Aug 92 15:04:10 GMT


In article <DMANDL.92Aug21100410@bilbo.shearson.com> dmandl@bilbo.shearson.com (David Mandl) writes:

   ....

   All right, all right, my mistake.  I read the post a little too quickly, OK?
   (And I still haven't gotten my hands on 3.0, so I wasn't aware of the improve-
   ment.)  As I told Chris via email, I haven't worked with TT fonts, but I have
   worked extensively with PS fonts: with the latter, the name is read by ATM
   from inside the PFB file (it's right at the top).  Change this and you've changed
   the name of the font.  I assume it's more or less the same with TT fonts, but I
   may be wrong.  Take a peek inside your font file.

This is wrong.  The `Windows Face Name' (what is shown in font menus) has
nothing whatever to do with the PostScript Fontname found in the PFB file.

The Windows Face Name is found in the PFM metric file.  It is copied from
there into ATM.INI if you are using ATM.  If you change ATM.INI you can
chaneg the name that shows up in font menus.  But this is not permanent.
The next time you install the font the Face Name from the PFM is copied.

Editing the PFB file (which can't be done directly because it contains
binary length fields) can only change the PostScript FontName - that is,
what is used to refer to the font once it is loaded into the printer.

ATM DOES read the PFB file initially to extract some information, but 
mostly it is looking for the /Encoding line...

Berthold K.P. Horn
Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: FOnts
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:01:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>I have both Fontmonger 1.0 and Fontographer 3.1 on the Mac.
>Problem is I want to edit Truetype fonts for the PC :-))
>Is it possible? Any conversion needed? :_)

If you want to edit tt fonts for the PC (windows 3.1) you need to convert
them to mac fonts, or the mac programs will not recognize them as fonts
( as far as I understand).  This can be accomplished via a nifty program
called ttconverter, available via sumex and all other major ftp outlets,
I assume.  

______________________________________________________________________________
Jason Osborne | Disclaimer: Who'd listen to me anyway?
______________________________________________________________________________
For information on the Underground Phont Archive, drop me a note via email
______________________________________________________________________________
From: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: font encoding morass
Date: 21 Aug 92 11:34:49 GMT
Reply-To: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Organization: U of Cambridge, England


In article <26760@life.ai.mit.edu>, bkph@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu
(Berthold K.P. Horn) writes very cogently on the problem of encoding.
He approaches it in a practical way, which has the advantage of being
able easily to make an impact on the general populace.

Some time back, I tried to propose on the NTS-L group that one of
TeX's problems is its confusion of a font with its encoding.  My
argument proceeded from theoretical grounds (derived from the
difficulties encountered in writing standards - ISO - and hence ANSI -
standards, that is).  Despite the support I had from an eminent source
(Barbara Beeton), I don't think I persuaded anyone who was not already
converted to my way of thinking.  Thank you, Berthold, for raising the
topic again.
--
Robin (dump Brian Kay) Fairbairns, using the facilities of the U of
Cambridge Computer Lab, for which permission is gratefully acknowledged.
[Wonderful what a few job offers can do for one's self-esteem :-]
From: dick.zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dick Zeitlin) 
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: designing my own TRUE
Date: 11 Aug 92 21:22:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dick.zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dick Zeitlin) 

OB> .Can anybody write me the addresses of the companies where I can purchase
  > .FONTMONGER and/or FONTOGRAPHER?

Both can be obtained from MacWarehouse.  800-255-6227.

        Fontographer 3.5        $265
        FontMonger 1.5            95


 * OLX 2.2 * Dick.Zeitlin%acc1bbs@ssr.com
                                                                                              
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: desikacharyk@wl.aecl.ca
Subject: Why Windows 3.1 blocks out upper ASCII chars - Message2.
Organization: AECL RESEARCH
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:49:44 GMT

Hello,
      Earlier I asked why Windows 3.1 blocks out some of the characters in 
the 128-255 range of a 8 bit coded font when I port it from Mac to Windows.
I got an excellent explanation from Berthold Horn (Thank you Berthold!) and 
some tips on how I can edit PFB files from Henry Churchyard (Thank you Henry!).
Here I list exactly the characters in  Mac's Font that are blocked out by 
Windows (I have all the slots from 128-255 populated, except for the code 202, 
which corresponds to nonblank space char on Mac). 

Code Char Name    Code   Char Name       Code  Char Name       Code Char Name
128  Adieresis    154    odieresis       185   pi              222  fi
129  Aring        157    ugrave          188   ordamasculine   240  apple
138  adieresis    158    ucircumflex     189   Omega           253  hungarumlaut
141  ccedilla     160    dagger          190   ae              254  ogonek
142  eacute       166    paragraph       208   endash          
143  egrave       178    lessequal       215   lozenge
144  ecircumflex  179    greaterequal    221   guilsingright

	The above chars are all blocked out by Windows 3.1. Windows 3.0 blocks
out the followinfg 4 additional chars:

Code Char Name    Code   Char Name       Code  Char Name       Code Char Name
136  agrave       152    ograve          173   notequal        175  Oslash


	Since the same chars are blocked whether I port Type 1 PS or 
TrueType fonts, I am assuming that Windows is using the same Font Encoding 
Vector in both cases. So, in order to see all the chars in my font, I should
be able to tell MS Windows to use Font's internal encoding vector instead of 
the Windows ANSI encoding vector. I am not clear if editing PFB files as 
suggested by Henry Churchyard will achieve this, because I cannot control 
which encoding vector is used by Windows. Any thoughts if this is achievable 
are gretefully acknowledged.

Regards,
K.Desikachary,
AECL Research.
From: churchh@ut-emx.uucp (Henry Churchyard)
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
Subject: Re: Why Windows 3.1 blocks out some of the upper ASCII codes?
Summary: T1UTILS
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:29:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.78042
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas

In article <26724@life.ai.mit.edu>, bkph@wheat-chex.ai.mit.edu (Berthold K.P. Horn) writes:
> 
> In article <18AUG92.15521044@wl.aecl.ca> desikacharyk@wl.aecl.ca writes:
> 
>>  I have a Font with all the upper ascii slots (codes from 128-255)
>> populated. It is a custom designed font that exists in Type 1 and Type 3
>> PS Formats. 
    [...]
>> When I installed
>> these fonts under Windows 3.0, I found that I cannot display/print 27 upper 
>> ASCII characters. 

>the default
> encoding vector differs from platform to platform.  On the Mac it is
> `standard roman encoding', in MS Windows it is `Windows ANSI' [...]
> When you say you can't get a character in positions 208, 215, 221, 222, 240,
> 253, and 254, this is because Windows ANSI has Eth, multiple, Yacute, Thorn,
> eth, yacute, and thorn in those positions, and these characters do not occur
> in Mac `standard roman encoding'.  
> DON'T think in terms of NUMBERS, but CHARACTERS (character names maybe).

  If you're really not afraid to go to a low level, you could use the
T1UTILS1 package by I. Lee Hetherington to swap around the character
names inside type 1 font files which are in windows .PFB format or
unix .PFA format (but not Mac System extension format).  Of course,
you would have to change the .AFM to match, and regenerate a new .PFM
from the .AFM (REFONT11 from ftp.cica.indiana.edu does this).  Also,
when swapping around characternames inside the Type1, beware of
fouling up seac's (one of the numerical parameters to _seac_, the
command that generates composite characters, refers to the character
in the font which has the name which is associated with that number in
the StandardEncoding vector).  A port of T1UTILS1.ZIP to Ms-Dos is
available on garbo.uwasa.fi, and on the garbo mirror in
wuarchive.wustl.edu.  Sorry, can't help you with Truetype...

Archie search:

Host garbo.uwasa.fi

    Location: /pc/fonts
           FILE -rw-rw-r--      81472  Jun 12 01:20  t1utils1.zip

Host plaza.aarnet.edu.au

    Location: /micros/pc/garbo/pc/fonts
           FILE -r--r--r--      81472  Jun 12 01:20  t1utils1.zip

Host wuarchive.wustl.edu

    Location: /mirrors4/garbo.uwasa.fi/fonts
           FILE -rw-rw-r--      81472  Jun 11 20:20  t1utils1.zip

--
         --Henry Churchyard     churchh@emx.cc.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: comp.fonts
From: ELURONA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (R. Elul)
Subject: Re: looking roman character font
Organization: Yale University
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 23:08:31 EDT

You might also try Kabbalah Software in Edison, NJ. They also sell this type
of font.
 
 
Newsgroups: comp.fonts