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From: dsb@osustat.mps.ohio-state.edu (Dave Blumenthal)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Devil Sticks
Date: 29 Jul 1992 17:28:13 GMT
Organization: Ohio State University
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Sorry if this is a repost, but after getting no responses, I'm assuming
that no one got the original post.  Here's the post again:

I'm interested in learning how to manipulate devil sticks, and I would
like some information about styles, tricks, etc.
    I've seen two basic styles of devil sticks - the solid bar tapering
from a thin middle to a thick end, and a thin dowel with a small ball on
each end.  How do these styles compare, as far as ease of use, etc.
    Does anyone have instructions for building devil sticks?  I'd like
to know things like length, weight, materials (I've seen some devil sticks
that are wrapped in rubber, is this recommended?).
    Finally, what are good sources for learning devil stick tricks
(especially simple tricks fo beginners)?
    Thanks a lot,
    Dave Blumenthal

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From: bobw@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Bob Waltenspiel)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:08:16 GMT
Subject: Re: juggling anecdotes
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA
Newsgroups: rec.juggling

Mark J Neale writes:

>(*) for our American friends, Carling Black Label is a lager and has
>been the subject of a large advertising campaign over the last few
>years. The adverts comprise of someone/something doing/being unusual,
>with the final caption "I bet he drinks Carling Black Label"
>
>Does anyone have any other similar anecdotes they've come across?
----------

Yea, There's an equally stupid add campaign for some alcohol product here
in the states as well.  Two standard issue female models talking about
one's new male friend.  She says something like "Not only is he rich
and powerful but he drinks {her brand]!".  Then there's the men's
version: "Not only does she look good in a bathing suit, but she drinks
[his brand]!".

Huh?  Oh, he means a juggling anecdote.  Don't know any,

See ya

-Bob
From: NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Montreal Numbers Results
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:36:52 GMT
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston


 As predicted earlier on the net, neither Gatto nor Garfield
 showed up in Montreal. The unofficial numbers results follow. Read
 'em and weep:
     _NO_ entrants in team rings or balls!
     Barry Rosenburg won for 7 (seven) balls with 36
     (thirty-six) catches.
      _NO_ entrants in individual rings.
      _NO_ qualifiers at the necessary level of 6 (six) clubs.
      Passing Zone won the team clubs event with 140 catches
      with 9 (nine) clubs.


   What happened to all you numbers guys out there?


  David Naylor,  Queen's Juggler
  NAYLORD@QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA
From: mccann@plains.NoDak.edu (Lester I. McCann)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Montreal Championships Results.
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:23:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19396
Organization: North Dakota State University, Fargo, ND

In article <92209.164313NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA writes:
>Does anyone know what the facilities will be like in Fargo?
>
>  David Naylor,  Queen's Juggler
>  NAYLORD@QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA

I think I can help out a little with this one.  (Finally!  A question in
rec.juggling that I can answer!)

My understanding is that the convention will be held at the Fargo Civic
Center in downtown Fargo, with housing at North Dakota State University
high-rise dorms (about 1.5 miles away).  I'm told that the Civic is air
conditioned, though the typical summer day in Fargo has a high of about 83
with low humidity -- hardly stifling.

In the "bummer" department, the NDSU dorms are about a block from the
brand-spanking new Fargodome, a 20,000 seat covered football field.  They
charge more than twice the Civic rate for just half of the dome, though, so
the Civic is a much better deal, and ought to be big enough.

I'd offer to field questions during the coming year, but I'll be moving to
Oklahoma in two weeks.  (Hey, if they'd only told me that the festival would
be here in '93, I'd have stuck around for another year.  As it is, gainful
employment beckons.)

Oh, and yes, Fargo is flat.  Flat, flat, flat.  *Really* flat.  The biggest
slopes are railroad underpasses.

Lester McCann
mccann@plains.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: gregh@hercules.dcrt.nih.gov (Gregory Humphreys)
Subject: vendors...
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:20:20 GMT

Could someone please post some addresses/phone numbers
of some juggling vendors?  Thanx.

--
Greg Humphreys
gregh@alw.nih.gov - National Institutes of Health

diplomacy, n : The art of saying "nice doggy" until you can find a rock.
From: zetie@vax.oxford.ac.uk (The Edible Dormouse)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: videos in uk format please
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:01:24 GMT
Organization: Oxford University, Dept of Antiquated Physics

I remember reading somtime ago that someone in the UK was producing UK video
formats fo IJA videos. I have a friend particulalry interested int he michael
moschen (man of the moment!) video, so I'd be grateful if someone could tell me
how to get hold of it.

remember, that's UK format not USA so direct mail from IJA is probably no use.

cheers

ken

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From: will@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (William Sadler)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Gelcoat scratches
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:22:16 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In <6140058@hplsla.hp.com> davek@hplsla.hp.com (Dave Kelley) writes:

>I've got a couple of superficial scratches in the gelcoat of my boat.  What's
>the best way to get 'em out?

If they aren't very deep try sanding them out with 600 wet/dry (wet) on
a block.  If they are too deep to sand out but aren't through the gel coat
then just put clear gel coat paste over them following the directions that
come with the gel coat repair kit.  These are available at about any
boating shop.  If it is through the color then you have to mix the
color up in te gel coat paste.

Sand until you see a green tinge.  Stop then, or you will go through the
gel coat.  Be careful not to take off too much.

Will
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Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Subject: Re: Wet Suit for sale
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 01:40:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <3411@babcock.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu> smp@cathedral.cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu (Shailesh M. Potnis) writes:
>
>	Wet Suit for sale:

Now that's what I call a minimalist boat.
 
Greg
From: meyersd@cs.washington.edu (David Meyers)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Spinnaker Douse - Question
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:07:44 GMT
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Jul21.131244.27275@panix.com> spencer@panix.com (David Spencer) writes:
>htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz (Hamish Tweedie) writes:
>
>>fog@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Larry Fogelquist) writes:
>>> Does anyone know what a windward floter spinnaker douse is?
>>> How is a windward floater different from leeward floater?
>
>>	Note that this technique is only recommended in the VERY light
>
>Nah. If you square off so that the chute is a dam instead of a foil
>(you need to be almost by the lee), take off the pole and let fly the
>sheet, you're not going to blow into the rigging. We do it all the
>time, whether it's light or heavy. It just takes a practiced hand on
>the tiller (to keep you far downwind without gybing or collapsing the
>chute) and good coordination among the gatherer, the gorilla and the
>chutehandler (so the chute stays full as it comes around the
>headstay).
>
>This is on a 22 foot boat; on a 50 footer your mileage may vary....
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
[stuff deleted]

>dhs   spencer@panix.com
>Sonar 404

I haven't done one on a 50 footer, but have on a 42 footer in 30+ knots. When
the tactical situation calls for a floater, it is a standard maneuver. Practice
extensively in lower pressure situations, mind you. Don't try it the first time
in more than about 8 knots of wind 'cause when it goes wrong, it REALLY goes
wrong...

Dave Meyers (meyersd@cs.washington.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: dwl@watson.ibm.com (David W. Levine)
Subject: Re: Olympics Sailing News/Results
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:25:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: dwl@watson.ibm.com 
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center

Well, the Black Flag rule showed up in the Western Sound for big boats
a couple of years ago. Five or ten years ago, a generall recall 
restarted on the next gun. Then they got moved to the end of the line,
then most of the comittees in the area tossed in the around the end
rule for the starts after a general recall. Lately, they include the
around the ends rule for the initial start of the most agressive
divisions and work up to the black flag after one or two general
recalls. I don't know who's the prime reason in other places, but
here it's the J/35 fleet, along with a sometimes very competetive
PHRF 71-87 group.

David W. Levine      -- IBM Thomas J. Watson Research Center
dwl@watson.ibm.com   -- (914) 784-7427 

My Opinions, IBM's hardware. -- 
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: bentson@CS.ColoState.EDU (Randolph Bentson)
Subject: Re: "Passage Making: Fast or
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 04:19:02 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <17JUL199211091789@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu>
ecf_stbo@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jever Nodis) writes:
>Nothing like getting blown away to make you work your ass off. Maybe we should
>have a multi pace boat at all keelboat regattas to improve performance level.

Yep. Have them start last, and with a long enough
course, they'll be well out of the way by the
first mark. :-)

What about the rest of the race?
-- 
    Randolph Bentson                 Colorado State University
    bentson@grieg.CS.ColoState.Edu   Computer Science Department
    303/491-5792                     Ft. Collins, CO 80523
From: cote@cs.ucsd.edu (Brad Cote)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Looking for (not expensive) Wrist-Watch for Sailing
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:04:13 GMT
Distribution: usa

mbr@bellcore.com (Mark Rosenstein) writes:
>Casio has an 800 number (which I don't know off hand but
>1-800-555-1212 will) and I obtained their catalog of watches which is
>a truly fun read. They have a gazillion different types of watches. My
>only problem is that the more featureful watches don't have lights,
>which I'd really like.

>Mark.

I have a Casio Yacht Timer, which comes in two forms: fancy metal, and
not fancy plastic. It has a stop watch, alarm, and a 5 minute
countdown yacht timer. This works on 5 minute starts, and rolls over
at the end of 5 minutes and starts over. Does all sorts of beeping
just before zero, which is ok.

Problems: The yacht timer can be set to another time, but it doesn't
work the same (no beeping). The five minute timer is a pain in the ass
to turn off, so you get all this beeping at 5 minute intervals which
is a real distraction. There is no light for night viewing. 

I usually use the stop watch function for all starts. This is
available on less expensive casios, but the cheapies have function
buttons which go off at a flick of the wrist, so when you look for a
time, you find out that 1) the timer has stopped (shit!), 2) you are
looking at the time (which can be confusing), or 3) you have stopped,
and restarted the timer (in which case you are late for the start -
double shit!).

All the casios suffer from way too many functions. Why in hell does
anyone really need a "2 lap timer" function on the timer? Sometimes
you get it into the 2 lap mode and you are just screwed when the prep
flag goes up. Alarms are worthless. So is 24 time.

What I want (are you listening casio or timex?)

Digital watch which shows time and date.

Stopwatch with 1 button for CLEAR-RESET at any time, 1 button for
start/stop.

Buttons which don't change the mode when you don't want them.

Programmatic interface to turn off functions I don't want, but your
engineers will insist on giving me anyway.

If I cant get the above, give me a big button for TIME.

Light at night.

					Brad Cote' 
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: baer@osf.org
Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Props
Organization: osf
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:23:35 GMT


	I just tried a Land&Sea variable pitch prop and the new Gil 6-gun (6 blade are
individually replaceable) prop.  I sure would like to find a 4-blade aluminum
to compare as well.

	The L&S prop made my boat "stand on its transom" (13" pitch) and was almost
able to pull my arms out watersking.  After a few pitch adjustments, its was
great.  Top end was not effected once I got the "pitch limits" set right.  Its
a hefty investment at $550 +/- and not for a beginer in terms of setup.  The
L&S is for people who want BOTH power & speed (at any cost) and don't mind the
extra maintance/$$ for a prop with more that 1 moving parts and lots of
springs!!!
  	
	The Gil prop was the best all-around deal for $129.  Hole shot was greatly
improved and the blades are individually replaceable at $14/blade.  I did have
to drop to a 17" pitch to keep RPM's right as it hit me for a 350 RPM drop at
wide open on the same pitch as a stock factory aluminum.  The sacrifice was
3MPH on the top end (46-43mph) but that is still sufficient for a family boat. 
The composite materials seem to stand up well & handle the hp/torque, just dont
"bump" anthing (like a rock) as the blades do shear easiler.  All-in-all I
would reccomend the GIl prop if you tend to run shallow/rocky and occsaionally
misjudge :^).  

	BTW, reference boat was a 21' Eurosport IISL (sunbird), 8' beam, 5.7L OMC
Cobra power, and 55 gallon tank with 93 octane Texaco. 

Cheers,
Garry
From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: What is your marina like?
Keywords: oops
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:03:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsk.1992Jul30.160320.4994
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Jul29.182643.24281@csclan.cs.com> CHRIS@csclan.cs.com (Chris Rousseau) writes:
>P.S. Are the people from the Bay Area the only ones with opinions 
>about their marina services?  Anyone else...East Coast/Gulf Coast/
>Great Lakes/Inland Lakes???   
Good point. Let me chip in my 2 cents' worth on marinas.

I live in central New Jersey, near Sandy Hook Bay. This is the country side/
beach resort of New Jersey. So some problems of city (like S.F.) marinas 
probably don't exist here. In this place, there are a lot of marinas, a lot 
of vacant slips, and in this economy, a lot of marina owners who want
your business.

>1)price/foot/year
The market price here is about $60/ft, only for the summer season from ~April 
to ~October. The price you guys get at Texas is a bargain. I have been in 
two marinas in the past two years. I paid $2000 last year and $1850 this year, 
for a 32-foot power boat.

Just 20-30 miles up north in NY, or the NJ side of the Hudson River, the slips
usually cost 50% more than the slips in central Jersey.

For the winter season, the boat has to be hulled out for winter storage.
It's about $500 for the whole winter.

>2)quality of management
The marina my boat was in last year belong to the Bayliner dealer. They are 
pretty attentive to problems/complaints. The place is pretty secured too.
There are also a lot of marina arranged activities.

In contrast, my current marina is nothing but a row of slips by the Bay.
There is no management office at the premise. I see the manager only
on occasion or by appointment. The biggest skepticism I have about this marina
is that it's on one side of a street. In other words, anybody on the street
can easily get on my boat. Fortunately, there doesn't seem to be any problem 
so far ...

>3)quality/quantity of facilities
The Bayliner marina last year has decent facilities, including showers, a
restaurant, mechanics, and a fuel dock.  The mechanics are a must for a 
used-boat that breaks down quite often. 

My current marina has no facility at all except a cafe. When 
my engine had something wrong this past month, I have had a lot of 
trouble getting mechanics to the premise to check it out.

In both marinas, the usual water and electricity are "all you can use".
Live-aboard is no problem at all.

>4) other...
Since last year's marina was much better in facilities, why did I move?
The reason was proximity. The Bayliner marina is way inside the Navesink
River. It takes me like 30 minutes and probably $15 extra in gas
to get to the Sandy Hook Bay, one way, with a lot of no-wake zone on 
the way.

-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
From: Laughlin.Hughes@f764.n153.z1.fido.zeta.org.au (Laughlin Hughes)
Sender: UUCP@ship.wimsey.bc
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: rules question
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:59:00 -0800

This message was from JOHN BALL to ALL,
originally in conference Sail__Fido
and was forwarded to you by LAUGHLIN HUGHES.
                    -------------------------
I sat on a protest hearing last night. Here is a description of the
incident.
The first leg was a beat, with buoys to port. The start line was between
a mark and the mast of the committee boat. No distance mark was set off
the committee boat. There were three starts in sequence for three
separate divisions. The incident involved the first start. The line was
quite conventional, with the committee boat on the correct side of the
mark. The wind was very light. There was a small adverse current.

A boat in the first division crept over the start line on stbd tack,
starting correctly, and completely cleared the start line. The boat then
tacked onto port. The boat then was pushed by the current back over the
start line. The boat bore off a bit to accelerate, and sailed behind
the committee boat and went off to the right side of the course, where
they had seen some puffs of wind. They then continued on around the
course.

The Race Committee protested the boat for failing to sail the
course, under rule 51.2 (the 'string' rule).

What is your reading of the situation, the applicable rules, and the
your grounds for decision?

I'll post our decision in a few days, but I don't want to
direct any of your thinking at this point.

 * SLMR 2.0 *
 * OLX 2.2 * Ship to Shore OIS Marine Net Chicago 1-708-670-7940


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From: stefan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stefan Michalowski)
Subject: Re: How to measure speed across the water
Keywords: speed boat navigation
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 20:05:55 GMT


In article <1992Jul31.180653.16123@Happy-Man.com> Joshua_Putnam@happy-man.com writes:
>...
>Maybe go to old sailors' garage sails and look for an old-fashioned
>towing log, the type with a mechanical guage activated by a towed
>propeller -- does anyone know what one of these would sell for these
>days?
>...

I saw one in a small antique shop on the Oregon coast. Very nice: lots
of brass, teak box with dovetails. I believe the price was $125.
From: jeffh@nonsuch.EBay.Sun.COM (Jeff Huntington)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Looking for (not expensive) Wrist-Watch fo
Date: 21 Jul 1992 21:42:39 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
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In article 5011@transfer.stratus.com, kvk@questor.sw.stratus.com (Ken Koellner) writes:
> Anyone have any recommendation or experience with cheap watches with
> techno-goodies?
> 
>

As I look down at my wrist, I am quick to recommend Casio.  I believe the model
I have is W-780, at least that is the number on the back.  My watch has a
stainless case (which I like better), but I am fairly sure the same watch 
comes with the black plastic case.  I think my watch came with the plastic
band, but I replaced it with the stainless band from my sailing watch, which 
I replaced with a valcro band.  The price was closer to $25.00 than $50.00
(I don't remember exactly how much).

For features, it has time & date (naturally), dual time, more alarm features than
you can imagine, a stopwatch, and a count-down timer.

I have had good experiences with Casio.  I have had my sailing watch (the one
with the valcro band) for over 10 years, and it is still doing fine.

Jeff Huntington




Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: syswtr@iowasp.physics.uiowa.edu
Subject: Re: Stainless Steel Propsdir
Organization: Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Iowa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:20:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.163940.27262@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, jadams@vixen.uucp (26070-adams) writes:
> In article <6140059@hplsla.hp.com>, davek@hplsla.hp.com (Dave Kelley) writes:
>> STU@mwvm.mitre.org writes:
>> Actually, the prop is made out of nibral, a nickel-brass alloy.  Somehow I
>> think that bronze (copper, tin and sometimes other elements) would be too
>                              ^^^ zinc, not tin;  copper and tin form
> brass.
> 
> Jack (John) Adams		| Bellcore RRC 4B-259
> (908) 699-3447 {Voice}		| (908) 336-2871 {Facsimile}
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> 	-- Experience...the ability to recognize a mistake when you make
> 	it again -- 

  Copper-time is bronze, usually alloyed with the likes of manganese,
silicone, and/or nickel.

  Copper-zinc is brass.

  BRASS is less stable in harsh environments due to ZINC content

Willy
From: Hugh.Johnstone@f764.n153.z1.fido.zeta.org.au (Hugh Johnstone)
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