From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Those Typical Taiwanese
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:01:26 GMT

In article <16B5EFC66.RAJA@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu> RAJA@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu writes:

>   I stand firmly by the facts I wrote in the original posting.  When I
>used the word "typical", I implied not ALL Taiwanese are less than decent in
>a certain way (but you're certainly one of theose typical).  In fact, there
>are Taiwanese who support my point of view to a certain degree, not to mention
>those silent majority who MAY be guilty of spreading around news about
>Taiwanese's wealth, one way or another.

Using "typical" sounds awfully racist too me.  Can you imagine what kind of
uproar would happen if someone writes about "typical blacks" etc., etc.?

Also, just because people haven't spoken out against you yet means that they
agree with you?  I had wanted no part of this thread before, but this is
*very* annoying.

>    Just look at the subject that is often discussed/implied in this
>newsgroup, it sure speaks for itself.  Go, please go and read other newsgroups
>and see if others show off their wealth as much as you people do. If you can

If you want to prove something, *you* are the one who must come out and find
evidence to prove what you want to say; it's not something that someone else
should do.

Besides, I don't think that the people in this group really show off their
wealth.  You started out by talking about Taiwanese whom you've met, anyway.

>do it on-screen, you can certainly do it better off-screen.  You all feel
>superior than those mainlanders simply because you think you have more money
>than they do.  That's childish, to say the least.  See, people like Japanese

Of course, to claim superiority just because of being rich is not only childish
but self-deluding, but you have not proven that Taiwanese in general, or the
readers of this group, feel superior because of the money.

No, not even if Chunde Shi has someone like Ross Perot for an uncle would I
feel any inferior to him.

>show off their wealth by doing it, but the Taiwanese do it (show of) by saying
>it.  Psychologically, I can understand that you Taiwanese people are eager to
>let others aware of the fact that you do have a few bucks.  But, had it ever
>occurred to you that it might be very disgusting to the listening party?  I'm
>just curious.

Where have the people in this group done this?  You haven't brought up any
single post to support your claim.

>   How about those 20 million people in the tiny little island apologize to me?

Because they didn't offend you?  You came around, and without any use of
logical reasoning, started throwing flame shells around.  Please watch what
you're writing, and please be logical in your reasoning.

> 
>BTW,I think I'm just a normal person who is fit physically and phychologically.
>If anytime I may appear dangerous to you all, that is when I'm irritated
>by the lousy behaviors of a large number of your countrymen.

I'm irritated by your lousy logic.

>I didn't know the 'ass' word can be so offensive.  I guess I shouldn't have
>used it had I known that not using it would make me a decent man like
>Mr. C C Chen.  I will try to do better next time.

Apparently, you have no concept of net.etiquette.

>I    A M    A    C H I N E S E (I just said it but not so proudly because I'm
>                                helplessly associated with people like you)

This is irrelevant.

>p/s:  Wow! your reply is actually getting longer.
>Aren't you the one who said who has better things to do than replying my
>constructive-criticism-but-not-so-well-taken postings?  I don't know they
>can be so irresistible to you.

Don't know.  I don't think that if you go around and tell blacks that
"typical blacks" wear flashing jewelry that they'd take it as constructive
criticism.

Ethnic stereotyping is *not* healthy, in any circumstances.
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