From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: Why are we different?
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 22:58:27 GMT

In article <43021@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> mcovingt@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington)
writes:
>	Hey... Japanese school isn't as bad as that [Chinese-cu] school in
>       Taiwan

Mai-chan (i.e. Ms. Covington) has the idea.  Congratulations.

>[extreme examples of brutality in Japanese-cu schools]
>These incidents are extreme cases; both those teachers
>are in prison (as they should be).

That's the point.  They went to jail.

By contrast, in Chinese-cu society, "getting beat", "being smacked around",
"getting belted", etc. is considered by Chinese-cu people to be "normal"
everyday behavior.  They consider this to be a "normal" part of growing
up.

Note that none of those animals in Chinese-cu society have ever gone
to jail.

I guess that's the point.  Japanese-cu and Westerners-cu see an animal
when they see a person beating children (like those in Mr. Jins's
(djin@gandalf.rutgers.edu's) true story of the typical Chinese-cu
school in Taiwan) "without mercy".  On the hand, Chinese-cu see
a wonderful caring human-being.

Now, does Mai-chan see the difference between Westerners-cu (and Japanese-cu)
thinking and Chinese-cu thinking?  Mr. Jins' courageous story corroborates
just about everything that I've said about Chinese-cu brutality and
lack of human decency (over this past year).  Western-cu (and Japanese-cu)
thinking and Chinese-cu thinking are _diametrically_ _opposed_.

I did not make anything up.  Both I and Mr. Jin are telling the truth.
The upper-class Chinese-cu on s.c.a.a. are lying when they tell you
readers otherwise; they are lying through their teeth when they say
that Chinese-cu "love" is the same as Western-cu (and Japanese-cu) love.

Sure.  Chinese-cu have a notion called "love", but it bears _no_
resemblance to Western-cu (and Japanese-cu) notions of love.  Chinese-cu
"love" is suitable for animals; however, Western-cu (and Japanese-cu) love
is suitable for human beings.

>	I think that I got a good education in Japanese school, but
>I would tone down the discipline. I DO think you must set

I agree with this.  But at least the Japanese-cu (and I know both
Japanese-cu and Western-cu societies well enough to make this statement)
have a great deal more compassion for helpless children than any
Chinese-cu.  Of course, the Japanese-cu could improve their caring
and concern to more than just their immediate inner "group".

See above.

>expectations for children though if you expect them to do anything.
>I think lately some American schools have not much expectations for
>the average level students.
>	Are you saying that Taiwan is necessarily dirty? Hey, come
>check out downtown LA sometime...

No.  But one could surmise that some Chinese-cu think that dirt is
more valuable than children.

See above.

>	Maiko Covington
>

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