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From: emev02@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Oral)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Artik keyfinize bakin, Ugur Mumcu'yu kaybettik...
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:03:37 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <C1HFJK.9An@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut) writes:
>In article <30770@castle.ed.ac.uk> emev02@castle.ed.ac.uk (H Oral) writes:
>>In article <C1DBy0.M8L@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> emremsia@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Emre Erkut) writes:
>>
>>>Bir insan dusunun, din gozunu o kadar karartmis ki, cumhuriyetin 
>>>yasalarini bile din saniyor.
>>
>>Dinin anlami her ne kadar size ilkokulda degisik ogretilmis olsa
>>bile, bu dinin asil anlamini degistirmez. Dinin ne oldugunu 
>>ancak Kur'ani Kerim'de kullanilis biciminden ve arapca anlamindan
>>bulabiliriz ki bunu Islam ulemasi "a way of life" diye
>>ceviriyorlar.  
>
>Belli ki size de Kuran kursunda cok iyi ogretmisler

Kur'an kursuna maalesef katilamamistim efendim.  Bu yuzden
Kur'ani dogru duzgun okumayi hala beceremiyorum.  Dusunsenize,
Cenabi Hak'kin alemlere rahmet ve kilavuzluk icin indirdigi
ve 14 asirdir korudugu kitabini ben orijinalinden, Peygamber
Efendimizin (SAV) okudugu gibi okuyamiyorum, cunku
Kur'an kursuna gonderilmedim.  
Beni bundan mahrum edenlere ahirette sorularim olacaktir.

>Siz Islam'la kafayi yemissiniz.

Nerde o gunler.

Hamid

>Emre Erkut                                      You can murder people
From: an7771@anon.penet.fi
Subject: No Subject
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 01:00:31 GMT

deneme deneme 1,2,3


deneme deneme 1,2,3

deneme deneme 1,2,3


This is Houston, we have a problem ...
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From: kutluk@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Kutluk Ozguven)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: CYPRUS will not be another BOSNIA HERCEGOVINA
Keywords: ..and this is why: "ENOSIS, EOKA, PALIKARIA, ATHENS, JUNTA"
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:19:23 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In <1993Jan8.020825.15591@wuecl.wustl.edu> tpd1@cec2.wustl.edu (Theodore P. David) writes:

>In article <1993Jan7.185218.19427@en.ecn.purdue.edu> baysan@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Okan Baysan) writes:

>>Okan Baysan
>>
>>-- 
>>  "Unless this small Turkish Community -forming a part of the Turkish race
>>   which has been the terrible enemy of Hellenism- is expelled from Cyprus,
>>   the duty of the heroes of EOKA can never be considered as terminated."
>>                  MAKARIOS, Panayia, 4 September 1962
>						  ^^^^^
>Okan...this is 1993.  But then again you have the same leader (king!) so
>I guess he lives in the past himself. Thirty-five (35) years in charge,
>wow! Ceasar himself didn't make it that long. Check this out Okan:

>Multiple choice questions:

>A.Turkish-Cypriot leader	B.Greek-Cypriot leader/ Cyprus's president
>----------------------		----------------------------------------

>His Majesty Rauf Denktash	- Grivas	1955-1960
>	""			- Makarios	1960-1977 (that was long..)	


  Go and learn some Cyprus history. Have you ever heard of Dr Fazil
Kucuk, the leader of the Turkish cypriots and the vice president of
the republic ?  Denktas came much later.  As for Grivas, he was only
the leader of the EOKA terror organization that  that killed so many
Turkish Cypriots. BTW nice omission of the terrorist Nikos Samson's
presidency in 1974.

Kutluk

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``During the years  leading  up to 1974,    when Greece was ruled by
a military dicatorship,    Turkish  civil servants received no salaries,
Turkish    judges    found    themselves   unable   to   enforce   their 
judgements,   Turkish    villages    were    subject    to   intimidation.
  In  short,  the  constitution  was   put   aside in favour of a de facto 
tyranny   of   Greek   over   Turk.   Appaling   massacres of Turkish
villagers occured,   and   while  Archibishop   Makarios  dissociated 
himself   from   the  worst  of  these  crimes,  he  proved  unable  to 
prevent  them,  and indeed often seemed quietly to condone them.
Finally he was himself deposed, by the vile terrorist Nikos Samson,
whose accession threw the country into civil war.
  The    immediate    effect    of    the  civil war was to drive Turks in 
thousands   from   their   homes,   and to subject them to the risk of 
genocide   at   the hands   of  the Eoka fanatics who now controlled
much of the island. These fanatics were aided by large contingents
from the mainland   Greek  army,  which had been installed illegally
during   the   previous   years.   After the Turkish intervention those 
Turks who  could  escape  to  the  North  were  able  at  last  to find
refuge from danger. For the first time in  more  than  20  years,  the
Turkish community had the prospect of safety.''

THE TIMES
Roger Scruton, Who will heed the Turks of Cyprus? 22 November 1983 :
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Seyreyleyin gumburtuyu
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 24 Jan 93 11:43:04 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Turk Ulusunun uslu cocuklari !

'ulus'u 'millet'ten ayirmaktan aciz bir adamin ilkeleri (kitabi) 
uzerine oturtulmaya calisilan bir anayasa ve yasalara (dine) dayali
kuruluslardan (milletten) ulusunuza na yarar saglanabilir ?

Altindakin bir cekseler,
Seyreyleyin gumburtuyu...

Ey Kufredenler !
Kulagimi, gozumu kufurlerinizi duymamaya, gormemeye ayarladim....
ayni sizin gozunuzu, kulaginizi Allah'in ayetlerini gormemeye,
duymamaya ayarladiginiz gibi...
Saltanatinizin sonu yaklasti, agzinizdan cikan son nefesinizdeki
hirilti....
Akletmiyecek misiniz ?
|-| /-\ |-< |-< |||

Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
From: an7793@anon.penet.fi
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Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 15:20:02 GMT

Never call a man a fool.  Borrow from him.
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From: aahmed@qucdn.queensu.ca (A.Ahmed)
Subject: Islama Kalkan Eller Kirilacaktir!
Keywords: na
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:39:48 GMT

Bismillahirrahmanirrahim.

Ugur Mumcu konusunda soylediklerimi yanlis anlayipta Hakki abinin
dedigi gibi 'millet'mi 'ulus'mu ,her ne gruba aitseniz,onu temsil
eden cevaplar vermissiniz..
Ben "Oh iyi olsun" demedim.Sadece muslumanlara saldiran diller
kesilmeli,kalkan kollar kirilmali dedim..Siz sabah aksam
Hz.Muhammad'e (S.A.V) hakaret ederken iyide biz fikrimizi beyan
edincemi kotu..Siz bas pezo'nun emirleri ile Muslumanlari katlederken
iyi,sizden biri oluncemi kotu?.
Ugur Mumcu hepinize ders olmali.
Sayin Remzi kardesinde belirttigi gibi,Mumcu gibiler bize her zaman
lazimdir,Kotu olmadan iyiyi anlayamayiz ve goremeyiz.

Mumcu bir komunist bozuntusu idi,olmesi bir insanin olmesi kadar
bizi uzer.Sizin efendiniz Amerika din kardeslerimiz Irak halkini
100 binlerce oldurdugu zaman hic boyle tepkiler gostermediniz.
Ne yaparsaniz yapin,Islamin gucu karsisinda kimse dayanamayacaktir.

Allah-u Ekbar

Ahmed
From: an7793@anon.penet.fi
Subject: No Subject
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:00:02 GMT

	The people of Halifax invented the trampoline.  During the
Victorian period the tripe-dressers of Halifax stretched tripe across a
large wooden frame and jumped up and down on it to `tender and dress'
it.  The tripoline, as they called it, degenerated into becoming the
apparatus for a spectator sport.

	The people of Halifax also invented the harmonium, a device for
castrating pigs during Sunday service.
		-- Mike Harding, "The Armchair Anarchist's Almanac"
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From: athanass@cs.concordia.ca (MICHAILIDIS athanassios)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek
Subject: Argic thats for you(was: Re: Armenian IRC Meeting!)
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:46:25 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

Why don't you join "irc" sometime ? Maybe we will get 
the chance to see first hand your intellectual capacity
mon ami @zuma.UUCP . Or are you afraid that by joining
your true identity will be uncovered ? Or you alredy 
joined and they kicked you out ?
 

Thanassis Michailidis

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From: an7793@anon.penet.fi
Subject: No Subject
Organization: Anonymous contact service
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:00:02 GMT

	The people of Halifax invented the trampoline.  During the
Victorian period the tripe-dressers of Halifax stretched tripe across a
large wooden frame and jumped up and down on it to `tender and dress'
it.  The tripoline, as they called it, degenerated into becoming the
apparatus for a spectator sport.

	The people of Halifax also invented the harmonium, a device for
castrating pigs during Sunday service.
		-- Mike Harding, "The Armchair Anarchist's Almanac"
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 08:40:01 GMT

Ask your boss to reconsider -- it's so difficult to take "Go to hell"
for an answer.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Akletmek ve Seytan.
From: Hakki_Kocabas@kcbbs.gen.nz (Hakki Kocabas)
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:52:59 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

036.060 ...Ey Ademogullari ben size seytana tapmayin o sizin icin apacik
        bir dusmandir, Bana kulluk edin, bu dogru yoldur diye bildirmedim
        mi ?
036.062 And olsun ki o (satan) sizden nice nesilleri saptirmisti, 
        akletmez miydiniz ?
        (satan, akl)
 
Allah'in ve Resulunun "amman insan akli vardir, seytan akli vardir,
akl'a pek guven olmaz ??!!!" dedigini nerede duydunuz, gordunuz,
isittiniz ? Allah ve Resulunun adina yalan uydurmaktan utanmiyormusunuz ?
Allah'in kelimelerini saptirmaya calismayin, bunda asla basariya
ulasamiyacaksiniz, cunku bu kelimeler bir kriter olan, farkliliklari
gosteren bir kitap olan Kuran'da apacik ve sapsaglam saptanmistir..
Haydi simdi gelin akledin, akletmekten insana zarar gelmez !
Akledin Ey Net Halki !
Akledin !
Akletmekten korkmayin !
Akletmekle insan sapmaz !
Akletmeyen uluslarin burnu pislikten cikmaz !
Akletmemeye cagiranlara kulak asmayin !
Allah'in dedigine uyun da akledin !
            

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From: ugrnurg@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu (Nuray Ugras)
Subject: Re: Islama Kalkan Eller Kirilacaktir!
Organization: Yale Univ.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:27:17 GMT

In article <BviSnE.bhu@qucdn.queensu.ca>, aahmed@qucdn.queensu.ca (A.Ahmed) writes:
> 
> Bismillahirrahmanirrahim.

Merhaba (yazmasi daha kolay)

> 
> Ugur Mumcu konusunda soylediklerimi yanlis anlayipta Hakki abinin
> dedigi gibi 'millet'mi 'ulus'mu ,her ne gruba aitseniz,onu temsil
> eden cevaplar vermissiniz..
> Ben "Oh iyi olsun" demedim.Sadece muslumanlara saldiran diller
> kesilmeli,kalkan kollar kirilmali dedim..Siz sabah aksam
> Hz.Muhammad'e (S.A.V) hakaret ederken iyide biz fikrimizi beyan
> edincemi kotu..Siz bas pezo'nun emirleri ile Muslumanlari katlederken
> iyi,sizden biri oluncemi kotu?.
> Ugur Mumcu hepinize ders olmali.

Aman, aman, ne korktum ve ders aldim.  Ne guzel bir dindarliktir bu !
Ya seriat ya olum !  Maalesef olumu bile "pezo"nun bombasiyla yapiyorlar.
 
> Sayin Remzi kardesinde belirttigi gibi,Mumcu gibiler bize her zaman
> lazimdir,Kotu olmadan iyiyi anlayamayiz ve goremeyiz.

Pek dogru konustunuz kardes.  Ne kotuymus bu dusundugunu yazan Mumcu
herifi.  Ben iyiyi gordum ve anladim.
Kahrolsun Mumcu !
Yasasin 12 yasindaki cocuklari olume yollayan Ayetollah !!!
Yasasin binlerce Kurt cocugunu olduren Saddam !!!
> 
> Mumcu bir komunist bozuntusu idi,olmesi bir insanin olmesi kadar
> bizi uzer.Sizin efendiniz Amerika din kardeslerimiz Irak halkini

Evet, evet benim efendim olan Amerika cok fena !  Tek dertleri nasil olsa da
gidip bir yerde musluman oldursek.
Sizin efendiniz olan memleket nasil ?  

> 100 binlerce oldurdugu zaman hic boyle tepkiler gostermediniz.

Iran-Irak savasinda kac kisi oldu acaba ???

> Ne yaparsaniz yapin,Islamin gucu karsisinda kimse dayanamayacaktir.

Ay ben yine korktum !
> 
> Allah-u Ekbar

Selamlar.
> 
> Ahmed

Nuray
> 
>
From: ega029@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Lami Kaya)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: SEHID TURAYLIC'IN SON SOZLERI : DOBRA TURKIYE, DOBRA ZAMAN, ALLAH'A EMANET
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:43:54 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <1993Jan21.054746.3168@ennews.eas.asu.edu> guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Selim Guncer ) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.220348.26627@doug.cae.wisc.edu> yamen@cae.wisc.edu (Soner Yamen) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan21.014330.23297@ennews.eas.asu.edu> guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Selim Guncer ) writes:
>>>In article <1993Jan20.180115.1231@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> dagtas@noble.ecn.purdue.edu (Serhan Dagtas) writes:
>>>>Asagidaki yazi, 13 Ocak 1993 tarihli ZAMAN Gazetesi'nden alinmistir.
>>>>
>>>><------------------------Buradan Kesiniz--------------------------->
>>>>
>>>>Turaylic'in soz sozleri: " DOBRA TURKIYE, DOBRA ZAMAN, ALLAH'A EMANET"
>>>>
>>>
>>>Ayip ulan, son yillarin en kalles cinayetlerinden birinin reklam
>>>amaciyla kullanilmasi igrenc birsey.
>>>
>>
>>Kisa sure once Turkiye'de idim. Star Tv'sinden, tum politikacilara,
>>ilk okul cocuklarina kadar hatta Bosnak asilli futbolculara...
>>herkesin dilinde bu mesele vardi. Kimin reklam icin, kimin icten
>>....
>
>Sozlerimi carpitma, Turalic'in son sozlerinin "Yasasin Zaman Gazetesi"
>oldugunu iddia etmek olayi suistimal etmekten daha igrenc birsey.
>Oldu olacak Zaman muhabiri Turalic'i korumasi gereken Fransiz
>askerlerine cesedi ortmesi icin Zaman nushalari verseydi de olay tam
>olsaydi. 
>
>Selim Guncer
>--
>Selim E. Guncer               | Jaca negra, luna grande,
>CSSER-ASU                     | y aceitunas en mi alforja.
>(602)-965-4096                | Aunque sepa los caminos
>guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu     | yo nunca llegare a Cordoba.. (FGL)


Sanirim bir yanlis anlasilma var. Yukarida Turalic'in sarf ettigi
soylenen sozler Turaylic yaralanip olum anindayken soyledigi
sozler degil. Turaylic'in olum aninda oyle bir sey soyledigini
iddia etmek bile cok yakisiksiz olur. Fakat orada anlatilmak
istenen (asil makale dikkatle okunsaydi gorulurdu) adam ucaga
binip hareket ederken, arkada biraktigi Turkiyeli gruba yukaridaki
sozleri soyluyor, bir nevi gonul alma. 

Sayin Selim muslumanlarin soyledikleri herseyi ters anlamak zorunda
degilsiniz.

Lami
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From: esuleym@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Baki
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:44:38 EST
Keywords: AMEN
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services


Uc il abvel,Yanvarin 20 de, Bakida rahmeta qedan $ahidleri Allah rahmet etsin,onlarin 
ruhunu $ad etsin.Onlar bo$ yerda gurban olmayiblar,Azerbaijanin azadliqi
ve musteqiliyi uqrunda 0z canlarini veriblar.Biz o qara qunu hec vaxt unutma
maliik ve vatanimizin qeleceki q0re alimizden qaleni etmaliyik.
Amen!Saq olun. Elin.
From: yamen@cae.wisc.edu (Soner Yamen)
Subject: Re: SEHID TURAYLIC'IN SON SOZLERI : DOBRA TURKIYE, DOBRA ZAMAN, ALLAH'A EMANET
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:57:14 CST

In article <1993Jan21.054746.3168@ennews.eas.asu.edu> guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Selim Guncer ) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.220348.26627@doug.cae.wisc.edu> yamen@cae.wisc.edu (Soner Yamen) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan21.014330.23297@ennews.eas.asu.edu> guncer@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Selim Guncer ) writes:
>>>In article <1993Jan20.180115.1231@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> dagtas@noble.ecn.purdue.edu (Serhan Dagtas) writes:
>>>>Asagidaki yazi, 13 Ocak 1993 tarihli ZAMAN Gazetesi'nden alinmistir.
>>>>
>>>><------------------------Buradan Kesiniz--------------------------->
>>>>
>>>>Turaylic'in soz sozleri: " DOBRA TURKIYE, DOBRA ZAMAN, ALLAH'A EMANET"
>>>>
>>>
>>>Ayip ulan, son yillarin en kalles cinayetlerinden birinin reklam
>>>amaciyla kullanilmasi igrenc birsey.
>>>
>>
>>Kisa sure once Turkiye'de idim. Star Tv'sinden, tum politikacilara,
>>ilk okul cocuklarina kadar hatta Bosnak asilli futbolculara...
>>herkesin dilinde bu mesele vardi. Kimin reklam icin, kimin icten
>>....
>
>Sozlerimi carpitma, Turalic'in son sozlerinin "Yasasin Zaman Gazetesi"
>oldugunu iddia etmek olayi suistimal etmekten daha igrenc birsey.
>Oldu olacak Zaman muhabiri Turalic'i korumasi gereken Fransiz
>askerlerine cesedi ortmesi icin Zaman nushalari verseydi de olay tam
>olsaydi. 

Kimin ne dusundugu, olaylara hangi gozlukle bakacagi kendi
meselesi... Bu konuyu luzumsuz zorlamayi dusunmuyorum. Ama
madem konu "carpitmaktan" acildi, birseye aciklik getirmek
lazim. Turaylic'in son sozleri "Yasasin Turkiye, Yasasin Zaman,
Allah'a emanet" olmus derken, olurken bunlari soyledi demiyor
kimse... Muhabirle son gorusmesinde bunlari soylemis. Konustugu
insan Zaman muhabiri. Oraya yardim ulastirmislar defalarca..
Bu insanlar, muslumanlardan bir cop gelse, ne olduguna bakmadan
memnun oluyorlar birileri bizim icin endise ediyorlar, yardim
gondermeye calisiyorlar diye. Ne yani, kendilerine yardim eden
bir muessesenin muhabirine bunlari demesi cok mu garip?

Bu luzumsuz tartismayi surdurmeyi dusunmuyorum.

----
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From: Bulent@gmd.de (Bulent Kandaz)
Subject: Hz.Muhammed(s.s.s)dogumu
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Organization: GMD, Sankt Augustin, Germany
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:03:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan27054838.AA48006@me.unda.edu>, kaya@me.unda.edu (Kaya T.
Guralp) wrote:
> 
> Maruf Evren kardesimizin essiz bir bilgi hazinesi olan "En buyuk
> insan, Sevgili Peygamberimiz" kitabindan alintilar kasirgasi suruyor.

***Kaya efendi beni biraz dinle de baz seyleri dogru ogren.***

DUZMECE ANLATIMLARIN DAHA NE KADAR SURECEK MERAK EDIYORUM 

Bak Ben sana Hz.Muhammed (s.a.s)in Peygamberlikten onceki Hayatini
anlatayimda biraz dusun!

1-Hz.MUHAMMED(s.a.s)In Cocukluk hayati
-DOGUMU :
Hz. Muhammed (s.a.s)Miladdan sonra 571 senesi, Fil yilinda, 12
Rebiulevvel(20 Nisan)Pazartesi gecesi sabaha karsi, Mekkenin dogusunda
bulunan " HasimOgullari Mahallesi"nde, babasindan kendisine miras kalan
evde dogdu.Araplarin takvim basi olarak kullandiklari "Fil Vakasi",
Peygamberimiz(s.a.s)in dogumundan 52 gun kadar once olmustur.

Abdulmuttalib, torununun dogumu serefine verdigi ziyafette cocugun adini
soranlara : 
-"Muhammed adini verdim. Dilerim ki, gokte Hakk, yeryuzunde halk, Onu
hayirla yadetsinler.."cevabini verdi.
Annesi de"Ahmed"dedi. (Muhammed, ustunluk ve meziyetleri anilarak cok cok
ovulup sena edilen;Ahmed de Cenab-i Hakki yuce sifatlari ile oven,
hamdeden kimse demektir.)

Islam tarihcileri, Peygamberimiz(s.a.s)in dogdugu gece bir takim
olaganustu olaylarin meydana geldigini naklederler.O gece Iran
Kisrasi(Hukumdari)nin Medayin sehrindeki sarayinin 14 sutunu yikilmis,
mecusilerin IrandaIstahrabat sehrinde bin yildan beri yanmakta olan
"atesgede"leri sonmus,Save golu yere batmis, bin yildan beri kurumus olan
Semave deresinin sulari tasmis, mecusilerin buyuk bilgini Mudiban korkunc
bir ruya gormus, Kabedeki putlarin yuz ustu devrildikleri
gorulmustu.Gercekten Onun dogmasi ile butun dunyada hukum surmekte olan
cehalet ve kufut atesi sonecek, putpereslik yikilacak, zulum baskisi son
bulacakti.

2-Soyu (nesibi)

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From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: CYPRUS
Date: 21 Jan 1993 07:38:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: Turkish Cultural Program List <TRKNWS-L%USCVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
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 TURKEY WANTS CYPRUS SOLUTION -- AUSTRALIA'S EVANS

    By Bouli Ghinis
    NICOSIA, Jan 15, Reuter - Australia's Minister for Foreign Affairs and
Trade said on Friday Turkey wanted a settlement in Cyprus but had been unable
to persuade Turkish-Cypriot leader Rauf Denktash to cooperate.
    ``I think the Turkish government in many ways would very much like to see a
resolution of the problem...it stands in the way of their own aspirations to
join the European Community,'' Gareth Evans told reporters after meeting
Cypriot Foreign Minister George Iacovou.
    ``But unhappily they don't seem able to persuade Mr Denktash to adopt a
more constructive position.''
    Cyprus has been partitioned since 1974, when Turkish troops seized its
northern third in the wake of a short-lived coup in Nicosia engineered by the
military junta then ruling Greece.
    U.N.-sponsored peace negotiations between Denktash and President George
Vassiliou ended in deadlock in November.
    ``We can only hope that when the talks resume...a more constructive
atmosphere will prevail,'' Evans said.
    The two Cypriot sides are to meet again in March to try to complete work on
plans for a bizonal, bi-communal federation on the basis of a set of ideas
submitted by U.N. Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali.
    Evans visited the 20 Australian civilian police serving with the United
Nations Force in Cyprus (UNFICYP) at their headquarters at the U.N.-controlled
Nicosia International airport and praised them for helping to keep the peace on
the divided island.
    ``I feel that you can be absolutely confident that one of the few things
that is helping the problem from escalating into a very much worse one...is the
presence of the U.N. and that of the Australian civilian police,'' he said.
   ``More than 800 Australian police officers have served with UNFICYP since it
was established in 1964. We are talking about a significant sustained
commitment.''
    Boutros-Ghali is studying ways of restructuring the 1488-strong force after
Denmark withdrew its troops and Canada announced it would begin pulling out its
575-member contingent on June 15.
    Evans, who leaves Cyprus on Sunday, said Australia would review its
contribution to UNFICYP in the summer.
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