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From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.science
Subject: Re: FCC Call letters
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:25:55 GMT
Reply-To: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Apr9.065329.13342@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes:
|>In article <1992Apr9.013551.22041@e2big.mko.dec.com> moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:
|>>[Cecil Adam's explanation of Channel 1 deleted]

|>I have a little doubting to do here:
|>
|>Channel 2 is 54-60, the six-meter amateur band (which didn't exist in the
|>original 1945 proposal) is 50-54, and the mobiles are 44-50.  There were
|>radios designed to pickup FM on 44-54 before the designation of 88-108 where
|>it is today, and I personally saw several with both ranges.  It's clear that
|>the 44-54 was split in half to become the 6-meter amateur band to replace
|>the "stolen" 5-meter band and the 44-50 part is a good place for mobiles,
|>but why would channel 1 create a gap?  I believe that amateur radio operators
|>can confirm that their lobbying for a 6-meter band is partially responsible
|>for the loss of channel 1, whereas your version has it only taken over
|>completely by mobiles.

I think things went like this originally:
44-54 FM Radio
[move FM to 88-108, Hams want a replacement for 5 meters, also this new-fangled
thing called TV]
44-50 TV Channel 1
50-54 6 meter Amateur
[oops, we didn't leave enough for mobile radio, TV has hogged too much bandwidth
and Ch.1 would have poor propagation characteristics for TV anyway]
44-50 Mobile Radio
50-54 6 meter amateur

|> It just makes more sense that channel 1 was 48-54

Maybe with 20-20 hindsight it would make sense if it was like this.  But
nothing designed by the government makes sense :-)  If it made so much sense
to have the TV channels contiguous, why the gap between 4 and 5?  6 and 7?

|>Since there already is a gap between 4 and 5, why an additional gap between
|>1 and 2?  7-13 I believe is contiguous, and UHF 14-83 came later?

It's not like only one gap could exist and it was already used up between
4 and 5.  TV tuners then used fixed coil-capacitor tank circuits switched
by a rotary switch, and band gaps were neither an advantage nor a disadvantage.

|>Side question: what is the current status of the highest of the UHF channels
|>from 83 down to something like 69-70?

Channels 70-83 are reallocated to cellular telephone services.

|>Additional question:

|>Isn't there supposed to be a CB II band in the 4-5 gap?  (Also for R-C?)

The 4-5 gap is used for radio control, pagers, an airport beacon at 75 MHz,
and in Europe there's a ham band there.  There is/was a little-known Class A
CB band somewhere around 460 MHz in addition to the well-known Class D at
27 MHz, don't know if it's still used.

-Mike
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From: de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.beer
Subject: Re: other fun mistranslations..
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:13:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: moscom.3481
Reply-To: de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan)
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY

In article <14APR199217043212@vax.cc.williams.edu> 92dms@vax.cc.williams.edu (Bat Rastard) writes:
>And don't EVER try to order a Tsingtao in a Spanish-speaking country. . .

Why?


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From: mikkelson@thewav.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: Why did the chicken cross the road?
Organization: Fight Dyslexia Help!
Date: 16 APR 92 18:45:38    


In article <1992Apr16.151409.18643@ms.uky.edu>, 
  fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes...

>In a world where we're more or less free of trichinosis because commercially
>raised swine never touch the earth, what turkey farm is going to have actual 
>turkey moms and dads rearing their own turklets?

Cecil did include the parenthetical comment, "In fairness, modern poultry
raising being what it is, Mom may no longer even be on the scene."  Occurrences
of turkey chick drownings, like the UL itself, probably go back a few 
generations.

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From: mikkelson@thewav.enet.dec.com (snopes)
Subject: Re: Churchill and French
Organization: Fight Dyslexia Help!
Date: 16 APR 92 18:59:05    


President Charles de Gaulle, a six-foot-four-inch humorless Frenchman with
"a head like a banana and hips like a woman" (as Hugh Dalton remarked), did not
hit it off with the much more compact and sparkling Churchill.  Each had his
own ego problem; each saw himself as the embodiment of his nation.  On one
occasion, during dinner at Chequers, Churchill was informed by his butler that
de Gaulle wished to speak to him on the phone.  Churchill, in the middle of
drinking his soup, refused to take the call.  De Gaulle, vehemently persisting
through the intermediary of the butler, eventually persuaded the British leader
to abandon his soup.  When Churchill returned to the table ten minutes later,
he was still crimson with rage.  "Bloody de Gaulle!  He had the impertinence
to tell me that the French regard him as the reincarnation of Joan of Arc." 
Pause.  "I found it necessary to remind him that we had to burn the first one."

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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Favorite College/Dorm Practical Jokes
Organization: Hewlett-Parkard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:24:48 GMT

: >A little hard to do unless you made everyone elses key a master-key. That
: >is, unless everyone on the floor was on a sub-master system. But then, you
: >would have to recut all the other keys to the new submaster cut. It could
: >be possible that all the other keys on the floor, except for the victim,
: >had a common cut - but unlikely.
: 
: I'm assuming these are Yale locks.
: 
: Suppose the victim's key had one extra large tooth.  Then remove all the
: other pins, and put in a one size larger pin plus a string of the tiniest
: pins.  Then the victim cannot open the door, but anyone (and this may not
: be the whole floor, but it could sure look that way) with a shorter tooth
: at that pin can.
: 
: Now how would I know this?
: 
: >Sorry - doesn't wash. And yes, I am a certified master locksmith - among my
: >many other dubious talents.
: 
: Certified master locksmith, yes.  Certified master puzzle solver, no.

Right, and the lock would be likely to jam in short order when used. Thin
wafers are a real problem in locks - the tolerences in the lock itself are
not tight enough. It is possible to do what you describe, but the person
did not say that he had access to the necessary components.

Your solution would also not work for anyone on the floor who had the same
cut for that pin, not at all unusual in a master-keyed system. Of course,
it would also be possible to open the person's door with a hairpin and next
to no effort.

Bill
From: linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: We are even less amused.
Keywords: Say anything here they never check eat all day for free
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:12:28 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: positive

G.C.H.Q Winthrop (casey@the.bat) wrote:
> None of the courtiers had the -err- balls  to explain the matter to Her Imperial
> Majesty, or draw her a picture.  So the unamused monarch *took her own pen* and
> scratched out the reference to women.   To unite a thread or two, thereby condemning
> Alan Turing, but liberating ??? [can't think of any famous gay Englishwomen]

                       Virginia Woolfe?



--
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Hola!  Villains foiled, bugs executed daily, strong coffee brewed.
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The wacky, flakey State
Summary: International Union of Pure and Applied Cow-tipping (IUPAC)
Keywords: Wayne & Garth; we have nothing bad to say about them
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:26:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: dog.22593
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
Organization: Honest Ernie's Used Ions
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

>>>How many other states have an element named after them?
>>I count three, if you include Lawrencium and Berkeleyium. 
>Lawrence and Berkeley aren't states.

Berkeley might as well be a state; I'm not sure even California
uniformly wants to claim ownership of the place.  But the breakup 
of the Soviet Union makes its bid for independence unlikely.

As for E.O. Lawrence, he never quite got a state named after him, 
but two national labs (this one and Lawrence Livermore) ain't a 
bad memorial.

Speaking of the late and lamented, Isaac Asimov wrote an essay on
how the elements got their names; if you're still with this thread,
you'll probably find it interesting.  

ObCal:  We gave the nation Richard "I am not a crook" Nixon,
Ronald "The bombing starts in three minutes" Reagan, Ed "This
is too a Christian nation" Meese, and Jerry Brown, who is the
only one considered flakey.

Joe "Like, TUBULAR thread, dude" Chew
From: tjw@vm2.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: William KENNEDY Smith --> What to do?
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:46:26 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr14.152950.27183@anasaz>, morris@anasaz (Bob Morris) writes:
> William E. Smith writes:

> If my name were William Smith, I'd use my middle initial, too.  Bummer.

Not if the middle initial was "K".

Terry "I am NOT a KENNEDY" Wood

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,misc.kids
From: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Subject: Re: Walla walla bing bang (was Re: Worm song?)
Reply-To: lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:02:23 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.074220.15280@amd.com> karen@brahms.amd.com (Karen Black) writes:
>In article <92097.112555ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET> <ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>>In article <1992Apr4.010929.21383@ims.com>, johnnyb@ims.com (Johnny Battle)
>>says:
>>>
>>>from around that time were the "One-eyed, One-horned, Flying Purple
>>>People-eater"
>>>and the "Itsy-bitsy, Teeny weeny, Yellow, Polka-dot Bikini" songs. I believe
>>>"Ahab the A-Rab," "Does Your Chewing Gum Loose Its Flavor on the Bedpost
>>>Overnight," and "Tie Me Kangaroo Down" also made it big just about then. Now,
>>>my question is: were the radio airways really dominated by this kind of song
>>>
>>Does the SPEARMINT Lose its Flavor on the Bedpost Overnight was a country 
>>music staple much earlier, in the 40's I think.  Along with Yucka-Puck, 
>>Movin' On and (my favorite) I've Got Tears in my Ears, Lyin' on my Back, 
>>Cryin' on my Pillow Over You.  Of the others, "Ahab" and "Tie Me Kangaroo" 
>>were well into the 60's.
>>Other favorites were "Beep, Beep" and "Tan Shoes, Pink Shoe Laces".  I think
>>we remember them so well because they caught our fancy (temporarily) and
>>because they were a radical departure from the standard fare of the era.  It
>>is usually the unusual that we remember the best.
>
>Two oddball songs I remember from the early 70's were "Dead Skunk (In the
>Middle of the Road)" and "Tennesee Birdwalk".  Since silly songs go all
>the way back to "Lamsie Doats" (30's?) and beyond ("Clementine"), I
>doubt that it's a 60's phenomenon.
>
>Karen Black
>

Dunno 'bout Tenn Birdwalk but Loudon Wainwright III's Dead Skunk in the
Middle of the Road Stinkin' to High Heaven is well known :-).  BTW, LW3
appeared on an episode of M*A*S*H singing about Tokyo, women, sushimi, etc.

Marsie Doats (Mares eat oats) is from the '30's or '40's (more likely early
'40's):

Marsie Doats and
Doesy Doats and
lil' lamsie Divy
a kidley Divy too, wouldn't you?

Now Mares eat oats
and Does eat oats
but little lambs eat ivy, etc.

How 'bout the '60's song about

Keep your mind on your driving
Keep your hands on the wheel?

Kissin' and a huggin' with Fred

(7 little girls, sittin' in the backseat)

cjl (wish that I could be like Fred :-))


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From: holly@allie.sybase.com (Innocent Bystander)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Tomato Flavor Chewing Gum
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:04:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1992Apr7.131524.2264@adimail.uucp> tel@adimail.uucp (Terry Monks) writes:
>But what I want to know is: what *is* bubble gum
>flavour? Is it a flavour of anything occurring in
>nature? 



But I thought bubble gum occurred in nature... oh well.  The flavor
in question is cat urine with chicken and subtle overtones of asparagus.


(which turns out to be amazingly close to tutti-frutti, whatever 
that is...)




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From: denebeim@brtph254.bnr.ca (Jay Denebeim P025)
Subject: Re: Lemurs
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:48:44 GMT

In article <9204092237.AA13260@mail.cis.ohio-state.edu> FURRJK@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (Joel Furr) writes:
>This raises some questions in
>my mind, not least of which is, North Carolina being North Carolina, did
>any of the lemurs wind up at barbecue restaurants performing tricks in
>return for all the pork barbecue and slaw?

No, most of them end up in the state legislature or US senate.

>What was the preferred means of transportation for the lemurs?  Hitchhiking?

Actually, most of them found near the road or flat with tire marks up
their back.
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From: clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re:  FCC Call letters
Distribution: na
Date: 4 Apr 92 10:41:02 EST
Organization: Private UUCP "Twig" Node

In article <epeterso.702141187@fenix> epeterso@fenix.encore.com (Eric Peterson) writes:
>w3wes@edison.gsfc.nasa.gov (William E. Smith) writes:
>
>The first few call sign letters vary by country.  You can tell what
>country a station is in by its call prefix.  If it starts with the
>letter A, K, N, or W, the station is in the USA.  If it starts with
>a C, it's in Canada.  Some other countries have groups of call signs
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>that must start with 2-3 common letters/numbers.  Check with the
>library or your local amateur radio buff for the real answer ...
>
>Eric

        Funny, I've never met one amateur here with a 'C' callsign.  OUr
callsigns have three charater "prefixes".  Usually this is 'VE' + a number.
 Numbers are assigned by province starting in the east.  The maritimes is 1
(hence VE1 <xxx>), Quebec is 2, Ontario is 3, Manitoba is 4 etc....  The
postfix is either two (for older or _very_ active hams or clubs) or three
(the norm.) letters.  We have a few other calls starting with VO or VC for
special commemerative (sp?) and way-up-in-the-boonies calls. :-)


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From: dmr@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Daniel Rosenblum)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Pleonasm
Keywords: I don't read headings very carefully
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:43:17 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University, Graduate School of Management, Newark, N.J.

In <Apr.9.00.53.23.1992.2130@gandalf.rutgers.edu>
 rarosenb@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Robert Rosenberg) writes:

>How about a tumorous cancer--a pleonastic neoplasm.

Actually, I think that it's a neoplastic pleonasm.  :-)
-- 
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From: mort@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Mortensen)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 11:30:20 GMT
Subject: Re: Perfume and whale vomit
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban

In alt.folklore.urban, smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin) writes:

> True!  Look up the word ``ambergris'' in any decent dictionary.

Sounds like a great name for a beer.  Whale Vomit Lager!   

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From: amorgan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Crunchy Frog)
Subject: Re: The Philadelphia Experiment (?)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 01:38:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.011443.5236@nmt.edu> houle@nmt.edu (Paul Houle) writes:
>In article <8757@crash.cts.com> benno@crash.cts.com (Benno Eichmann) writes:
>>What, if anything, are you aware of in relation to a Philadelphia or Project
>>Rainbow or Project Pheonix as might be related to Dr. John Levinson in a group
>
>	As I told the good DOCTOR long ago,  the PHILADELPHIA EXPERIMENT was
>a SUCCESFUL TEST of EINSTEIN'S unified FIELD equations.  All matter and energy
>are all manifestations of a COSMOLOGICAL influence mediated through the
>MULTIPLEX SCALAR field.  EINSTEIN wrote about his equations in 1932,  BUT
>he renounced his work because HE was AFRAID of the CONSEQUENCES that this
>knowledge WOULD have on mankind.  Do you know that the ATOMIC BOMB is a lie
>that has been told to the public to keep us from knowing the TRUTH?  The REAL
>weapon is a multiplexed spatial howitzer that opens a SPACE-TIME gateway
>between the core of the SUN and AS MANY AS 512 (in newer models) TARGET
>points,  causing COMPLETE DEVESTATION.  Nuclear detonation was proved
>impossible by N. TESLA in 1915;  Nuclear POWER is a LIE,  a retrograde form
>of ENERGY caused by the accelerated NATURAL DECAY of matter.  The real
>principle of the MANHATTAN DEVICE (Named because it is buried underneath
>the EMPIRE STATE BUILDING) designed by ALBERT einstein which destroyed the
>CITY of hiroshima would lead to unlimited 'free' energy -- Which could be
>tapped off any hyperspatial TANGENT line,  derived from the CONSTANT PROCESS
>OF CREATION OF MATTER in the interstellar medium.

... stuff deleted ...

I am QUITE impressed at the NUMBER of CAPITALIZED words you HAVE in this
POST.  Anyone who KNOWS how to UsE the cAps lock KEY to such EFFECT is
clearly a WAy C00L DUDE.  My ownly KRITIsISM is that EWE forgOt a :-)
at the END ofYOUR post.

C "U r a jEnIus" FrOg
From: v070km6q@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (John B Schutkeker)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Japanese law monsters
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:59:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

david.lloyd-jones@rose.com (david lloyd-jones) writes...

>All this crap about what the nasty Japanese do is the best candidate for
>Current Mother Lode of American urban legends.  They won't import
>anything.  (Hunh?  They're supposed to rush out and buy two ton cars
>with the steering wheels on the wrong side?)  

Oh, yeah?!  And what about the telecommunications equipment that (until
just recently) their market was completely closed to.  Are you saying that
our sattellites are as poorly engineered as GM's cars.

>They speak an impenetrable language.  

I never heard this complaint.  *We* speak an impenetrable language.

>They won't let investment into the country.  

This morning I heard, on my favorite radio talk show, which is a CPB (Corp. for
Public Broadcasting) production called "Marketplace," that the confederation of
Japanese business news media companies is closed to outsiders.  This means that
my favorite show can't get news stories directly from the floor of the Tokyo
Stock Exchange, because they can't get a license for it without membership, and
they can't get the membership at all.  And I'm investing in Japan, and I need
that show for reliable information!!  Now if that's not unfair, what is?! 

If you want more specifics on how the Japanese discriminate against outsiders
("gaijin")  in their business practices, see this week's "Frontline" docu-
mentary on PBS.  You'd be amased at the patent stealing that Mitsubish has
perpetrated on some small, American owned competitors in Japan.

And what about dumping DRAM micro-chips on the market?  And what about
dumping *cars* on the market?  And listen to H. Ross Perot's complaints
about what happened to him when he tried to break into the market for
Japanese auto parts.

The list goes on and on.

Sorry, Dave, but those people who don't believe that the Japanese practice
unfair trade practices have two traits in common -

	1)  They're lucky enough to be in a business where the Japanese
	    are open.  I mean, who cares about Coke and laundromats when
	    national industrial might is at stake?
	2)  They are so closed minded to obviously true facts that you might
	    as well call them self-delusional.  They blame America first.

Look at it this way.  Do you really believe that there is a massive conspiracy
of the American media, export businesses, politicians, and citizenry to blame
the Japanese for our shortcomings, or do you suppose that maybe the news stories
contain some small grains of truth?

						-- John Schutkeker
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