HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: I DID giev up on the Amiga!
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 20:33:13 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
   <33141@cbmvax.commodore.com>
  <1992Jul24.220016.13998@vax5.cit.cornell.edu>

IBM *is* getting aggressive again. A look at their price sheet should
tell you that.  Their prices have tumbled in the past 3 or 4 months
to about 1/2 of what they were.

I have a feeling they're going to taking back market from a lot of
the cloners (and if MCA is cheap enough, that would be my choice
of a PC bus).
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From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Re: I am giving up on the Amiga
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:49:05 GMT

TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>Point of reference, a DELL 386DX-33 with 4MB ram, 80M HD, supervga and
>monitor, DOS 5.0 and Windows 3.1, 24 hour on-site service for 1 year
>is $1550.

A pair of Nike high-tops is less than $150.

>Just thought I throw that in.

Me too.

(Let me see... If I sell my Amiga setup, I may be able to afford 7 pairs...)

-- Gerald
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From: dano@srl01.usl.edu (Dan Stephenson)
Subject: Re: Amiga Future?!?
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 03:21:43 GMT

Re: Amiga compatibles:  I thought the Amiga was so dependant
on those custom chips, and Custom=Commodore ONLY.
Well?

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From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO)
Subject: Re: I am giving up on the Amiga
Reply-To: ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO)
Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:58:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.174646.41916@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> thompson@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>In article <33711@cbmvax.commodore.com>, andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel) writes:
>> In article <1992Jul24.200256.4933@msi.com> bill@msi.com writes:

>>>Ahhh more Amigoid OS/2 bullshit.  Have you seen it run?  From what I've
>>>heard, a 386SX-20 w/8MB RAM runs OS/2 2.0 quite well.  If you just want
>> 
>> 
>> Let me get this straight...you flame someone for complaining on the
>> speed of OS/2 on anything less than a 386DX-33 without seeing
>> it run;  yet you imply that you've not seen it run on a 386SX either 
>> in your counter aggument ?
>> 
>> That's an interesting argument;   The old 
>> "You've never tried it so you don't know; I've never tried it, so I do know"
>> line of reasoning isn't often used.
>> 
>> There's probably a good reason for this.
>
>Well, he heard right.  I have seen OS/2 2.0 on a 386sx-25 with 6 megs 
          ~~~~~                ~~~~
>of RAM.  It ran moderatly fast.  With some more RAM, it would be just 
>plain fast.  And with the September CSD, it will be even faster.
Well, one heard, and you saw, but did anyone USE it for a period of time?
How do you know how fast it will run with more RAM?
>
>> 
>>>| Bill Poitras    | Molecular Simulations Inc.    | Tel (408)522-9229       |
>> 
>> 		andy
>> -- 
>> andy finkel		{uunet|rutgers|amiga}!cbmvax!andy
>> 
>> "Programming is 5% theory and 95% trivia."
>> 
>> Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share.
>> I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.
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From: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Subject: Re: Marc Barrett is irrelevant.  Atari Falcon is REAL
Reply-To: aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:36:37 GMT


In a previous article, u2112539@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au () says:

>In article <1992Jul22.013634.3503@cheshire.oxy.edu>, leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt) writes:
>> Hmm... since 1040STe's are selling for $299 new retail, I don't suppose
>> it beyond Atari's capabilities to design an '030 based machine for onluy
>> $500 more... especially redoing much of the stuff from the ground up, and
>> having the core of the OS already developed...
>> 
>> Think about it... with $300 Amigas, MMR could probably OEM them with
>> installed accelerators for that price... and how much easier would it
>> be to build it in?
>> 
>> Thom
>> 
>	Atari sales are $285 mill down from $411 last year. I think the
>stupidity of anouncing the Falcon so early is yoing to hit them hard with the
>Osborne syndrome. Ever heard of it ? Let alone if 1040SYe's are selling for
>only that much ... looks like that is usualy the last method one uses to get
>rid of it's stock. I have seen A64 for way under $100  ... wonder who thought
>they's sell well and bought a bundle ...
>	George
>
>
>
>


I think Atari is clearing stock of all the 1040 STes to make room
for the Falcon 030.

I mean after all, who will buy the 1040 STe when they can buy
a Falcon for a few more hundred?

Atari looks like a company that is planning to do some selling in
the Fall... some major selling.

Most likely of the Falcon.

And since many developers have had this system since May, 1992,
I don't think there is any doubt that it will be released this year.

If you don't want Mac and you don't want IBM clones, you most
likely want a computer that is similar to the one that you already have
when yours is left behind.  I'm saving up for a Falcon folks.


-- 
 
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From: dano@srl01.usl.edu (Dan Stephenson)
Subject: Re: I am giving up on the Amiga
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 06:00:15 GMT

ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO) writes:

>In article <192001@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov> pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov (Paul Bartholomew) writes:

>>on a 286 with a neat shareware utility.  What the 286 can't do is multitask
>>multiple DOS sessions.  A 386, of course, can (yes, I know it doesn't pre-
>>emptively multitask).

>Ever try something simple like having two DOS sessions run the dir command
>simultaneously?  Do both session scroll at once?

Hmm, if they do, they do it REAL SLOW.  It's been a long time,...
I've used OS/2 for a long while now..  i do remember running multiplt
DOS things before,though, and multi-floppy formatting.



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From: lindblad@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Jarkko Lindblad)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: C= speaks!!! let's spread the words!!!
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:51:13 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: University of Helsinki

foax@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:

: supported is quite a strength, too.  How about the SoundBlaster, with
: 22 8-bit voices, for $100?  (vs. 8 8-bit voices on the Amiga).  (I'm

Oh, the clueless one, AMiga only has 4 channels, however they're all
DMA-driven and each have a DAC of their own. Can not say the same
about Sound"7 times Atari ST sounds"Blaster.

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From: chuj@horton.Colorado.EDU (CHU JEFFREY)
Subject: Re: I am giving up on the Amiga
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:04:04 GMT

>> heard, a 386SX-20 w/8MB RAM runs OS/2 2.0 quite well.  If you just want
>> the base operating system, DOS but no Windows, no extra applications that
>> you don't need or system tools you don't understand, OS/2 2.0 would fit
>> quite nicely on a 60MB Drive.
>>
>
>OS/2 (full loaded system) and Turbo C++ 3.1 do not fit on a 60MB drive together.
>Amiga programmer of: GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle
>Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
>Mike Schwartz  (ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)
>1124 Fremont Ave.
>Los Altos, CA 94024
>
Just curious how much does Turbo C++ 3.1 take then?  My C++ 3.0 Professional kit
only took up ~20 megs (Windows developer, etc...) and then OS/2 took up
~30 megs.
From: doctor@k9.UUCP (Paul Broe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: OH MY GOD...I CAN'T BELIEVE WHAT I JUST SAW
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:51:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: k9.doctor.01dh
Organization: You have to be kidding...
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Jul28.030637.16900@nntp.uoregon.edu> ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles) writes:
> In article <151og6INN6lp@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> jbgoldsm@cats.ucsc.edu (Joshua B Goldsmith) writes:
> >
> >I saw it too, and that was here on the opposite side of the US way out
> >in California.  Amazing, I wish I recorded it...  That is the first TV
> >advertisement that I have EVER seen for an Amiga.  It wasn't a bad commercial
> >either though it could have given more details about the CDTV itself...
> >Finally some advertising...
> 
>    Commodore has been running ads on the Preview Guide for at least the last
> 3 to 4 years. Why? Preview Guide equipment consists of... Amigas. (This is
> known because many people have turned on the television set only to find a
> Guru flashing at them. I kid you not.) 

We saw a requester 'Volume Preview Guide has a read-write error' a couple of 
days ago, but no guru's (yet).

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From: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: I am giving up on the Amiga
Date: 27 Jul 92 19:03:50 GMT
Reply-To: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
Organization: Flying Cat Software

In article <1992Jul24.200256.4933@msi.com> bill@msi.com writes:
>al158305@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Gustavo Cordova Avila) writes:
>: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>: 
>: >	Have you taken a look at IBM's OS/2 2.0 OS?  It does a lot of the 
>: >  things you want much better then Windows.  It does require a little more
>: >  hardware to run then Windows though. 
>: >	
>: 
>:    Besides being out of the discussion point, if half-OS (OS/2) need 
>: a *little* more hardware to run than windows, then it needs much more
>: hardware to run (just to run!) than AmigaDOS 2.04. And period. Don't 
>: start saying "You haven't seen it run!!" blah blah blah, you CAN'T
>: install it in a machine that's less than a 386DX-33 and hope for it to
>: run at an acceptable speed, but AmigaDOS can. You can't install it on a
>: machine with a 60Mb hard disk and hope to have enough disk space free
>: for some apps, and AmigaDOS can.
>
>Ahhh more Amigoid OS/2 bullshit.  Have you seen it run?  From what I've
>heard, a 386SX-20 w/8MB RAM runs OS/2 2.0 quite well.  If you just want


Let me get this straight...you flame someone for complaining on the
speed of OS/2 on anything less than a 386DX-33 without seeing
it run;  yet you imply that you've not seen it run on a 386SX either 
in your counter aggument ?

That's an interesting argument;   The old 
"You've never tried it so you don't know; I've never tried it, so I do know"
line of reasoning isn't often used.

There's probably a good reason for this.

>| Bill Poitras    | Molecular Simulations Inc.    | Tel (408)522-9229       |

		andy
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"Programming is 5% theory and 95% trivia."

Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share.
I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amigas are cool
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 26 Jul 92 13:51:12 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <l73suhINN3hd@pollux.usc.edu> addison@pollux.usc.edu (Richard Addison) writes:
> In <1992Jul25.220049.2298@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
> }   Most such $1000 systems come with 2M of RAM.  To run OS/2 well, you need
> }only add 6M, which is about $200-$250 at today's prices.  It has also been
> }mentioned that OS/2 will fit well onto a 60M drive, as long as you aren't
> }trying to fit 40M of C++ development tools onto it as well.  60M SCSI drives
> }can be had for $250 these days.
>
> What good is VM if you don't have any harddisk space left?
>

VM will also cut the battery life of a laptop/notebook computer down to
5 minutes :)

> --Richard
>

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Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
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From: gorrie@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (Dennis Gorrie)
Subject: Re: Commodore and the Osborne Syndrome
Reply-To: gorrie@hercules.uregina.ca (Dennis Gorrie)
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Saskatchewan
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:15:24 GMT

In article <63071@cup.portal.com> TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko) writes:
>As for the penalty imposed by memory protection, yeah, but then
>so does a GUI. I thought the whole point of advanced processors
>was to allow you to things *better* not just faster.

Some of us don't care if we can shoot ourselves in the foot *better*,
we just want to be able to shoot ourselves in the foot *faster*. 

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From: ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO)
Subject: Re: PC's are *total* kludges
Reply-To: ata@hfsi.UUCP (John Ata FSO)
Organization: HFSI, McLean VA.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:08:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.160954.3931@ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>ata@hfsi.uucp (John Ata FSO) writes:
>>
>>Now the 386
>>upgrade that is currently in use takes about 15 seconds or so
>>every time a task switch is done to/from the MS-DOS shell.  Should
>>I be satisfied?
>>
>
>This sounds like BS to me.  I run Windows on a 386, and switching between
>DOS and Windows applications is instantaneous.
Perhaps I should insult you and tell you that your statement is "BS" because
my experience is different?  How many other people running Windows can
switch between DOS and a Windows application "instantanously"?  Let's find
out the secret of how this is done.
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From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Subject: Re: I am giving up on the Amiga
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:20:49 GMT

In article <al158305.711748234@academ01> al158305@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Gustavo Cordova Avila) writes:
>ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>
>>	Have you taken a look at IBM's OS/2 2.0 OS?  It does a lot of the 
>>  things you want much better then Windows.  It does require a little more
>>  hardware to run then Windows though. 
>>	
>
>   Besides being out of the discussion point, if half-OS (OS/2) need 
>a *little* more hardware to run than windows, then it needs much more
>hardware to run (just to run!) than AmigaDOS 2.04. And period. Don't 
>start saying "You haven't seen it run!!" blah blah blah, you CAN'T
>install it in a machine that's less than a 386DX-33 and hope for it to
>run at an acceptable speed, but AmigaDOS can. You can't install it on a
>machine with a 60Mb hard disk and hope to have enough disk space free
>for some apps, and AmigaDOS can.

	I wasn't really comparing OS2 against AmigaDos.  The person I 
   responded to ( was it you? ), was saying there were some things that
   he would like to have that Windows didn't provide.  I just mentioned 
   that OS2 2.0 might be an alternative that he could look at.  I don't
   know about OS2 needing a 386DX-33 though, there seems to be quite a few
   people on the OS2 groups running it on machines lower than that and
   getting pretty good performance.  At least according to them.  

							G.Greene

>
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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: I am not giving up on the Amiga
Date: 29 Jul 92 05:55:47 GMT
Organization: Amiga makes it possible
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <192383@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov> pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov (Paul Bartholomew) writes:
> In article <mykes.0ahv@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG>, mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
> > In article <1992Jul28.012830.12748@seas.gwu.edu> gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington) writes:
>
> >> What are some other good X applications?  I need to see if we can get
> >> some at work.
>
> > OK all you Unix/X guys out there.  Let's start a list.  I'll start it off,
> > you can add to the end :)
> >
> > 1.	FrameMaker
> > 2.	XGuide
> > 3.	XRn
>
> You asked for it:
>

Yeah I asked for it...

[ about 5,000 quality titles deleted... ]

ANd if you bought 1% of those titles, it would cost more than the friggin'
machine :)

> Paul Bartholomew          |   "The time has come, the walrus said, to talk of
>                           |    many things..."                  Lewis Carroll
> pdb059@ipl.jpl.nasa.gov   |   Disclaimer:  Opinions?  What opinions?
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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From: bill@snoopy (Bill Poitras)
Subject: Re: OS Names - what they are...
Reply-To: bill@msi.com
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:48:37 GMT

peter@blade (Peter Korsten) writes:
: PC still isn't correct. How about this?
: 
: PC  1:	  Program Manager    	MS-Windows		MS-DOS*
:     2:    Program Manager?   		Presentation Manager	OS/2

  PC  1:    Program Manger/File Manager	MS-Windows     		MS-DOS
  PC  2:    Workplace Shell		Presentation Manager	OS/2
  PC  3:    ???				Desqview/X		MS-DOS

: 
: And for Unix:
: 
: Unix      Is there any?!     X+(Motif or Open Look   Unix SysVr4 or

  Unix      Varies			X11			Unix

Motif and Open Look are not Window systems.  They are programs which
manage windows.  A specialized client of sorts.

There are Unix shells.  OpenLook has its toolset, SCO has OpenDesktop,
I'm sure there are others.

: 
: Ah, forget about Unix, I'm really not sure about that. Unix runs on
: many different architectures, including all the above computers. And
: there are also the different workstations, like Suns, DECstations,
: the like with SunView, DEC Window Manager. etc.

But if USL has its way X11 will be the the desktop system with UnixLite
as the OS.  I also heard a rumor that distributed OS/2 PM will use X as its
protocol over TCP/IP transport.  That will allow PM apps to run on X
terminals.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: leavitt@cheshire.oxy.edu (Thomas VanNess Leavitt)
Subject: Re: Atari Falcon Rumor IS Real!
Summary: WB 3.0 Autodocs with descriptions of AA chipset capabilities? 
Keywords: AA chipset 3.0 WorkBench
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 06:50:42 GMT

Question:  do we have anyone on-line here who could e-mail (post?) something
of what capabilities the AA chipset has?

Thom

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From: rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan)
Subject: Promises, promises 
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:01:52 GMT

In article <mykes.09pk@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG>mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:

>I pitched an Amiga project to a very big software publisher in the US.
>They said NO, we don't expect the Amiga to be around next year.

Funny. That's the same thing these guys said in '85, except at that time they
referred to the system as an Omega (or some variant which they conceived to
be a non-standard DOS box). Far too often it's not a matter of capability,
but the underlying corporate pecking order. 

Somehow I sympathize with the original MIT hackers that felt disdain towards
the "batch-processed" IBM world which encompassed them in the 60's. It's
just unfortunate for the rest of us that the bean-counters often prevail.

Mark

[And the meek shall inherit the Earth... :)]

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