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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 08:58:01 PST
From:         Patricia Parker <SYSPPA@LLUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      We're getting ESTOR (finally)

We've had a 3090-400E for several years. Now we're finally getting ESTOR
(128M, 64M each side). As the sysprog, I can't find anything I have to *do*
to get MVS/ESA 3.1.3 to use it. I haven't found any documentation that
addresses adding ESTOR. But the sysprog manuals lead me to believe the
system *finds* the ESTOR and uses it. Can it be that simple?

We also run CICS 2.1.2 and it looks like it also will use ESTOR once it
finds it. IMS 3.1 will need some buffer tuning but should benefit from the
added storage on install.

I know there are tuning duties once we get things going. I don't want to
address those until we're using ESTOR a few days. I would appreciate
any comments and help. Thanks.

Patricia Parker
Loma Linda University
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:47:00 CST
From:         Tim Walsh <XW0STPW@LUCCPUA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Law schools

  hopperge@student.msu.edu wrote:
> I'm presently a M.A. student in anthropology, but I have been considering
> law school once I finish my degree.  I have two questions.  First, how
> beneficial would having a masters degree be to my law school applications.
> Second, is it possible to combine studying law with my anthropological
> background?

 I completed my MBA before I applied to law schools, and from the info.
 I gathered a masters degree does not make alot of difference.  Law
 schools seem to look primarily at undergrad GPA and LSAT score rather
 than graduate school work.  However, it does depend on where you apply.
 Schools that look at subjective criteria may weigh your MA more
 heavily than schools that only look at the numbers.  Loyola Chicago
 seems to weigh the numbers very heavily.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:23:54 EST
From:         William Grant <343VTQ2@CMUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: LSAT sample tests?
              26 Jan 1993 03:27:23 GMT from <kisicki@CWIS.UNOMAHA.EDU>

Yes,  that's the number that I used on this end too,  Be prepared for about
a 3-5 minute call because they're 'on line' and to order that you need to
talk to someone (after about 2 minutes of press 1 for....)  The $6 sounds
about right for what we paid too.  However,  they don't sell all of the exams,
just the ones listed as disclosed.  Also,  for those of you who took the
exam,  and wondered which section was the experimental section,  if you're
memory is good,  the purchased exam doesn't contain it,  so You'll be able to
figure it out...(for what it's worth at that point)  You CANNOT be on a list
to get them (have to order each one individually) and can't pre-order them
either.  More helpful info.


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From: bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden)
Subject: Re: Young Law School Professors
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:25:39 GMT

thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:

>How common is it for law schools to hire law professors under the age
>of thirty?  What kind of resumes do these professors have?

Well - what color are you? If you are white male, unless you are
at the top of a top tier law school, forget even applying. It seems
that pretty much every law school in the country has quotas by race,
sex, etc. (and very soon sexual orientation), and the white male
quota has been filled for years.

The problem with being under 30 is that there is somewhat of a 
tendancy to hire over 40's because of the possibility of age
discrimination suits.

Bruce E. Hayden
(303) 758-8400
bhayden@csn.org

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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:58:12 EST
From:         Dennis Chong <dchong@SAS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: SUBSCRIBE

I've noticed a chain lately of people who post to this net about wanting
to subscribe.  Hopefully someone will pass the following information along
about how to subscribe so that the amount of such postings will go down.


TO SUBSCRIBE:

1)  Send mail to "listserv@<nodename>", NOT to the group.  For this
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2)  Leave the subject line blank.  The listserv tends to ignore mail with
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3)  Send a one-line message to the listserv in the following format:
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and send this.  This line for a subscription to this group would read:
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4)  You should get confirmation that your request has been received
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Hope this helps.  If you are already subscribed and know of others who
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From: dpollard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dennis B Pollard)
Subject: Re: LSAT
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:03:15 GMT

I suggest taking the LSAT during the summer, is it June, before you intend to 
start applying.  That is, take the exam in June 1993, if you seek admission to 
the class starting in Fall 1994.

Regarding a prep course, I suggest enrolling in one, by all means, IMHO, unless
you simply do well on these exams by yourself.
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:04:00 EST
From:         XRZX@CRNLVAX5.BITNET
Subject:      Patent Bar Exam

Does anyone know the test dates and application deadlines for the
patent bar exam?  Thanks in advance.

                                        Rick Machonkin
                                        XRZX@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:42:38 EST
From:         William Grant <343VTQ2@CMUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: LSAT sample tests?
              22 Jan 1993 01:59:06 EST from <dchong@SAS.UPENN.EDU>

There's a number to call.... I'm not sure what it is right off the top
of my head,  but Law Services offers certain tests to be disclosed
for personal use. (hence the disclosed vs. Non-disclosed) test stuff  in
the front of your LSAT/LSDAS order booklet.  Our center gets approximately
20 of these tests each time to offer students to take under times,  graded
conditions.  The raw scores line up on a chart of how people performed on
the real exam,  which gives you a pretty close estimate as to how you would
have performed on that exam yourself,  and hence other exams.  Now that I've
committed myself,  I don't know if this is only offered to Universities or
not. (since all of the ordering that I did was for our Law Center)
If you'd like to e-mail me direct,  I can take a couple of days and
track down more info for you...(phone number,  how to purchase....) Or,  if
someone else reading this has exact info (possibly somebody from LSDAS??)
who could give everyone else the exact info.  I'll post it on the list
when I track it down too. (may take a couple of days,  we're under extreme
weather conditions here,  which forced class cancelation....)


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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:33:00 PST
From:         Press Quackenbush <quackenbus@OTS-MAIL-GATE.RUTGERS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LSAT sample tests?

The # for Law Services is 215-968-1300


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Subject: Re: LSAT sample tests?
Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1993 4:42AM

There's a number to call.... I'm not sure what it is right off the top
of my head,  but Law Services offers certain tests to be disclosed
for personal use. (hence the disclosed vs. Non-disclosed) test stuff  in
the front of your LSAT/LSDAS order booklet.  Our center gets approximately
20 of these tests each time to offer students to take under times,  graded
conditions.  The raw scores line up on a chart of how people performed on
the real exam,  which gives you a pretty close estimate as to how you would
have performed on that exam yourself,  and hence other exams.  Now that I've
committed myself,  I don't know if this is only offered to Universities or
not. (since all of the ordering that I did was for our Law Center)
If you'd like to e-mail me direct,  I can take a couple of days and
track down more info for you...(phone number,  how to purchase....) Or,  if
someone else reading this has exact info (possibly somebody from LSDAS??)
who could give everyone else the exact info.  I'll post it on the list
when I track it down too. (may take a couple of days,  we're under extreme
weather conditions here,  which forced class cancelation....)


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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:19:53 +0300
From:         "Yuri N. Muraviov"
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Subject:      Pls. help to unsubscribe

Dear all,
      Sorry for  disturbing  you  all but  unfortunately  the  usual  way  to
      unsubscribe does not work and I am not able to do it from my end.

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        Yuri.
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From: ME599027@brownvm.brown.edu ()
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Subject: Ph.D. to JD Advice Sought
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:47:43 EST
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
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Hi, I've been reading this list for a few months and figured that I'd
throw out a few questions regarding Law School.
I received my Ph.D. a couple of years ago and am currently a
postdoctoral fellow.  Seeing that there is  a dirth of academic
positions and funding that is available,I have been thinking of
applying my degree to the field of Biotech patent law. I have
read some of the discussions on taking the patent bar exam and
have gathered the information based  on these posts from this list.
I plan on taking the patent bar exam in the fall and I am in the process
of contacting some patent firms in the Boston area (anyone have leads
on particular firms to get in touch with?) for employment.
I also want to obtain my JD degree on a part time basis. There are 3 schools
that offer this type of program in the Boston/RI area,
New England School of Law, Suffolk and Roger Williams Law School.
How important is the reputation of the school for future employment?
What is like to work full-time and go to school part-time?
When does one decide on the particular branch of Law that he/she would
like to enter?  Right now I am leaning towards patent law but I also find
enviromental law quite interesting, especially with my science background,
and the new administration in office.
I'd appreciate any information on any of these questions including any
advice or suggestions.

Thanks,
Dave
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:59:06 EST
From:         Dennis Chong <dchong@SAS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: LSAT sample tests?

In the last post, something was mentioned about getting practice LSATS
which were released by LSDAS.  If someone could please help me by letting
me know how I would go about ordering said exams, I would really
appreciate it!

$10 apiece, huh?

Thanks!

.....dc
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From: kisicki@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jeff Kisicki)
Subject: Re:      Re: LSAT sample tests?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:27:23 GMT

In response to your question about sample LSAT's, I'm taking the test on
Feb. 13, and I got all the sample test's I could get. They cost $6 each and
can be ordered by calling LSDAS. The number is:(215) 968-1001. This number
is out of the princeton review "Cracking the LSAT," so don't blame me if it
is incorrect. The LSDAS has them for the last 6 or 7 tests. They are actual
exams that they have already given. Good Luck!
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From: dpollard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dennis B Pollard)
Subject: Re: Young Law School Professors
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:15:10 GMT

In article <bhayden.727946739@teal> bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden) writes:
>thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
>
>Well - what color are you? If you are white male, unless you are
>at the top of a top tier law school, forget even applying. It seems
>that pretty much every law school in the country has quotas by race,
>sex, etc. (and very soon sexual orientation), and the white male
>quota has been filled for years.
>
Really, then that explains why Capital Univ. hired an exceptional white male 
law professor, last year.  The man was hired straight out of Yale Law School.

I would like to know what the Ohio State minority quota is?  Perhaps the 
previous author can let me know if my university reached it.


>The problem with being under 30 is that there is somewhat of a
>tendancy to hire over 40's because of the possibility of age
>discrimination suits.
>

Where did Mr. Hayden go to law school is what I want to know.
From: ck049@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter S. McPhee)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.lawsch-l
Subject: LSAT
Date: 21 Jan 1993 08:10:22 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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  Could someone please advise me on the best time to take the LSAT? Also,
how important is the prep and are there any LSAT prep programs for the Mac?
  thanks,
   pete
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 12:33:58 EST
From:         Jennifer Jo Balgooyen <balgooye@STUDENT.MSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: law school
              "00mtklein%BSUVAX1.BITNET@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU" at Jan 19, 93 7:27 pm

>
>         Jennifer,
>                         I am a graduate student in Natural Resources at Ball
> State working on my master's degree.  I would like to, after my master's,
> pursue a law degree in environmental law.  Some programs that I know of are
>         George Washington Univ.
>         Vermont Law School
>         Lewis and Clark (mentioned in a previous posting)
>         Univ. of Michigan (so I am told..)
>
>         Take your time selecting a school.  Know where you want to land a
> job when you graduate and compare that with where each respective law school
> "deposits" their graduates.
>
>         If your know of any others let me know.  Good luck.
>
>                                 Matt Klein -- 00mtklein@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
>




Matt,

      As far as my research :


University of Oregon *     University of Denver *
Univerity of Montana *     University of Wyoming
                        *star meaning a really good program
University of Utah
University of Michigan

There are a few others that offer that emphasis, but arent a well versed
I dont think.

             Good Luck,     Jennifer Balgooyen
                           balgooye@student.msu.edu
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Subject: Re: Young Law School Professors
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 13:34:13 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

In article <bhayden.727946739@teal> bhayden@teal.csn.org (Bruce Hayden) writes:
>thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
>
>>How common is it for law schools to hire law professors under the age
>>of thirty?  What kind of resumes do these professors have?
>
>Well - what color are you? If you are white male, unless you are
>at the top of a top tier law school, forget even applying. It seems
>that pretty much every law school in the country has quotas by race,
>sex, etc. (and very soon sexual orientation), and the white male
>quota has been filled for years.

I'm curious whether you're speaking from experience or something else.
Three of the five youngest University of Chicago professors are white
males.

>The problem with being under 30 is that there is somewhat of a 
>tendancy to hire over 40's because of the possibility of age
>discrimination suits.

I acknowledge a tendency to hire over-40's, but I suspect it's more
because of the greater experience and law schools' discomfort with
hiring teachers younger than many of their students.  Career choices
by the young have more than a little to do with it, as well.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:18:13 EST
From:         William Grant <343VTQ2@CMUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: LSAT
              22 Jan 1993 00:03:15 GMT from <dpollard@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>

Oh,  and about prep courses..... They may help some people,  but also,
if you have some time,  just taking previous exams under timed conditions
can bring up your score too.  If you go into the exam knowing what to expect
(about how long you have on each section,  what TYPE of questions that are
asked,  that sort of thing...) you won't be as nervous,  and that can make
all the difference.  Money can be a problem with prep courses.  Check your
local Law Center (if you have one,  at Central,  we do).  Or even if you
have a chapter of Phi Alpha Delta.  We (along with the law center) offer
workshops on the Logical and Analytical sections of the LSAT,  which can
help in teaching you HOW to attack a problem (diagrams,  that sort of thing)
All this is offered (here) free of charge to students of CMU.  We also
give free practice (graded) exams which have been disclosed by LSDAS.  You can
order these for under $10/each.  That helped me a lot.


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From: dpollard@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dennis B Pollard)
Subject: Re: Young Law School Professors
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:55:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.152359.10323@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.ed
u writes:
>How common is it for law schools to hire law professors under the age
>of thirty?  What kind of resumes do these professors have?

Actually, Ted, Capital University, here in Columbus, OH, hired an assistant 
professor to teach property (and some other stuff) right out of law school.  I 
believe that he went to Yale.

Here, at Ohio State, we have an excellant property professor, Prof. Chow, who 
doesn't look a day over 23.  Really.  I think that he might be thirty.  He went
to Yale also, and got tenure very quickly.  He will probable be a full
professor shortly.  May I add that Prof. Chow also clerk for Judge Motley [sp] 
in S.D.N.Y.
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From: majcher@acsu.buffalo.edu (Murali)
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Subject: Re: Perry - "Miss Manners"
Date: 21 Jan 93 06:58:44 GMT
Organization: UB

pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger) writes:

>A well functioning society has
>ways of dealing with people who look like adults but are only six
>years old inside. Presumably, you would like to have the list open to
>you again so you could continue to defecate in the center of other
>people's living rooms, but those people are not anxious to have you
>back after you've done it the first time.
>When
>a group of people decide not to talk to a malicious child, they are
>not committing censorship -- the child is still free to say whatever
>it likes. What they are doing is ceasing to listen, which is well
>within their rights.

	And, of course, we have (for those in the audience who didn't
know, just in case...) means out here in the wilds of Usenet to deal
with such children as well, on a more personal level.  Kill files.
Put a name, oh, say, just for the sake of example, "Bruce White" in
your kill file, and posts from that person don't show up.  You have
effectively "kicked that person off the list", as far as you're
concerned, for the most part.  Right, Mr. White?

	...

	Mr. White?  Hm...oh, well...

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