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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:44:52 EDT
From:         "Daniel A. Foss" <DFOSS@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      Away with the end of the beginning,
              on with the beginning of the end

   THE FNORDISH ADDRESS
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   This reposted e-mail is an authentic New Way of Thinking. Those who *do* it
vehemently deny that it is a New Way of Thinking and the word *bida*, innovati-
on, means "heresy." But still it is.

   Fat chance, I don't have to tell you, this is going to do *us* any good as
it is. Rather, our task is to reverse engineer it, formulate just how and
wherein it is a New Way of Thinking.

   Figuring out what makes this a new way of thinking yields a template to make
one of our own discretion.

   And any nuber of false RED HERRINGS - the BLUE HERRING, remember, is THEIRS
- to fake out, make money off, those who can't, are not in on, or won't do it.

   Then the world is ours.

   Hitherto, my fellow - and all to many of you are, alas, male - slime, all
New Ways of Thinking have originated for the overriding, predominant Imperative
of GETTING SOLD. Yet, necessarily, a New Way of Thinking that, you know, really
got going necessarily would be unsalable for the very good reason that such
multitudes would be going over to it the possibility of perpetuating an arcane
occult Kabbalistic cabal of Illuminati woudl be self-defeating. Who, in this
vastly great armenian land out there is willing to start a New Way of Thinking
WITH NO MONEY IN IT???
   Surely not me. Yet, forsooth, what choice have I? Never been no damn good
with money nohow. In times of cultural revolution those who shun the bucks haul
them in, those such as I saying oh puhleez puhleez gimme gimme gimme forever go
without, tis the nature of things.

   This is no exaggeration, all my exaggerations are a matter of public record
as are the literal truths, whereof the latter is one of. We have evidence, we
have documents, this is how i crawl around whining on hands and knees while my
own back is turned:

>... must hurry get outta here please to try to sell me to Clintonism for what-
>ver the market will bear we split the take fifty fifty. At least have them
>pay for meals & pills, plus the odd night with G. Flowers; this is negotiable.
>
>What we mostly need is $, preferably in assets denominated in yen. Remember, I
>am not as psycho & irresponsible as I look; I am worse. BUT I AM UNIQUE, MY
>BRAIN DAMAGE CANNOT, SHOULD NEVER BE, DUPLICATED WITHOUT RISK OF FRIGHTFUL
>FOR WORLD GLOBALITY.
>
>Poster of multiculturalistic child, captioned: I gotta be somebody 'cause God
>                                               don't make no junk.
>Foss subcaption:                               I am a product of American
>                                               design and engineering.

   Think Largish!

Daniel A. Foss
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 14:26:18 G+3
Reply-To:     History of Islam <ISLAM-L@ULKYVM.BITNET>
From:         ENF3045@SAKAAU03.BITNET
To:           "Daniel A. Foss" <DFOSS@SBCCVM.BITNET>

Assalam Alaikum , Hedi Benaicha,

In reply to my proposed program for individual muslims to help
the Bosnians , you said :
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Where were you for the muslim in Palestine, the muslim in Iraq?  Stop your hypo
crisy, all the muslim poeple who were against the muslims in IRAQ are now sendi
ng aid to bosnia.  Are the bosnians more muslims than the Iraqis or maybe becau
se the Iraqis are Arab therefore they do not deserve help.  Before helping Bosn
ia why don't you ask to lift the embargo on the Iraqi, and stop your hypocrisy
colored in the islamic flag.
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well, Hedi, where are we from the muslims in Somalia , and muslims in
Borma , and muslims in kashmir and muslims in China and ... the situation
is bad for the muslims in so many places around the world , do you know
that according to united nations statistics 85 percent of the world's
refugees are muslims while they represent less than 25 percent of total
global population . Now if any muslim is calling  for helping any
specific muslim or group of muslims anywhere in the world, this does
not mean he has abandoned the cause of other suffering brothers in Islam
and deserve stoning or accusation of hypocricy (I seek Allah's protection
from hypocricy and hypocrites) which is worse and more painful than
stoning and BTW , according to Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) the signs of
the hypocrite is three :"if he talks he lies , if he promises he breaks
his promises and if he was entrusted with something he betrays the trust"
and God told his Apostle in The Holy Quran about the hypocrites , I seek
Allah's protection from Satan the rejected one , Allah (SWT) says :

....
thou knowest them not: We know them
....
                              Holy Quran 9:101
so it is better not to judge others so quick as hypocrites .

As for why muslims stood againest Iraq , or actually againest Iraqi
regime and its followers (not so many followers) and NOT againest the
Iraqi people at large , the reason why is in the following verse from
the Holy Quran, I seek Allah's protection from Satan the rejected one,
Allah (SWT) says :

If two parties among
the believers fall into a quarell,
make ye peace between them:
but if one of them transgresses beyond bounds
againest the other,
then fight ye (all) againest
the one that transgresses until it complies
with the command of God:
but if it complies, then make peace between them
with justice, and be fair :
for God loves those who are fair (and Just)
                                   Holy Quran 49:9

Wassalam
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:55:56 EDT
Reply-To:     History of Islam <ISLAM-L@ULKYVM.BITNET>
From:         Hedi Benaicha <BENAICHA@PUCC.BITNET>
To:           "Daniel A. Foss" <DFOSS@SBCCVM.BITNET>
              26 Aug 1992 14:26:18 G+3 from <ENF3045@SAKAAU03.BITNET>

Bismillah wala hawla wala quwwata illa billah:
Amma Ba'ad:
Surat al-Hujurat came in special circumstances and for a specific subject.  But
 anyway in the Aya 9 and 10of the same surat Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala did not
mention that you have to make alliance with al-kafirin to combat another Mu'min
"Wa in ta'ifatani mina-l-mu'minina iqtatalu faslihu baynahuma fain baghat ihdah
uma 'ala- al- ukhra faqatilu allati tabgha hatta tafia ila amri allahi fa'in fa
'at faslihu baynahuma bil'adli wa aqsitu inna allaha yuhibbu almuqstin." sadaqa
 allahu mawlana al-'azim.  And he also said in the same surat Aya 10 and 14 the
 following : " Innama al mu'minuna ikhwatun faslihu bayna akhawaykum wattaqu al
laha la'allakum turhamun."  and   "Qalati-l-a'rabu Aamanna qul lam tu'minu wa l
akin qulu aslamna wa lmma yadkhuli-l-imanu fi qulubikum wa in tuti'u allaha wa
rasulahu la yalitkum min a'malikum shay'an inna allaha ghafurun rahim."

Not to mention their alliance with al-Kafirin, the A'rab should read these aya
and learn how to make peace with their bretheren the mu'minin of Iraq and ask t
he entire world community to lift the embargo.  Or probably you can not do this
 because you are paid by the A'rab.  Because in your answer you mentioned that
the embargo is against the Iraqi regime, who cares the Iraqis are in a dire sit
uation and after all they are religiously and ethnically brothers of the Kuwait
is and the others.  W a inna akramakum inda allahi atqakum.
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