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From: jhelberg@nl.oracle.com (Joost Helberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: DUTCH OPEN BEACH CRICKET CHAMPIONSHIP
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:13:56 GMT
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This weekend the Dutch Open Beach Cricket Chanpionship was held:
 A great event!

The championship is held on the island `Schiermonnikoog' in the 
`Waddenzee'. A few thousand people live there.

Schiermonnikoog has beaches of 5 km depth, room for more than
4 pitches between the sea and the dunes!

20 teams sleep in so called camping farms.

We started saturday at 10.00 sharp, three gane that day
for every team. Two points for winning, 1 for a tie and 0
for loosing. Next to that the run-rate counts.
Matches take 1 hour per innings.

After this day Quick Den Haag was first (rrate: 3.94, 6 points, 
135 runs in 34.2 overs ) and DSV Concordia second (rrate: 3.56, 
6 points, 205 runs in 57.5 overs). We (Hercules) ended
8th with 4 points and a rrate of 3.56.

On Sunday all numbers 1-2, 3-4, 5-6 etc. played against each other
to finalize the rankings.

Quick Den Haag won over DSV, both playing wonderful cricket.

The two teams playing for the last ranking made a tie!

We ended 8th.

A wonderful weekend this was, much cricket, much beer, no sleep.

We play again in two years!

NOTE: it is an OPEN championship, so .........


--  
   Joost Helberg                                Rijnzathe 6
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From: ccrob@uqvax.cc.uq.oz.au
Subject: Re: Border breaks through ......
Organization: The Prentice Centre, Uni of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:08:42 GMT

In article <8SEP199216324763@ctrvx2.vanderbilt.edu>, diwadkva@ctrvx2.vanderbilt.edu (Vaibhav A. Diwadkar) writes:
> Seems like interest regarding the Lanka/Aussie series is inordinately low?

Not here it isn't - just that the great god Channel 9 doesn't have a broadcast,
so we don't get any news in Oz.  :-(

> Well, heard on the Beeb that Allan Border rescued the Aussies with his 24th
> test century (his first in four years) in the final test against Lanka.  He
> won the toss and elected to bat.
	{ ... deleted ... }
> Some observations.  Mark Taylor and Tom Moody have been striking failures
> in this test series. They may have one fifty between them thru their 10
> innings thus far.  Waugh has been patchy and so has Border till today.  The
> revelation has been Mathews who I think has now run off four consecutive
> 50s in the series? Very impressive batting by him.  What do the Aussie 
> nettors think about Mark Waughs retention at the exclusion of Damian 
> Martyn?  Would have been a good time for Martyn to come out in a test where
> the pressure is not as high.  Also the Aussies recalled Warne and left out
> Whitney.

I'm glad for Border - he's been getting 30's almost consistently, so something
was eventually bound to happen (he says wiping the nervous sweat from his
forehead).

I don't think that Mark Waugh was in danger of being dropped - not yet anyway.
Tom Moody was the one hanging on the precipice. My (not very important) feeling
is that Waugh has got a few brownie points left with the selectors, and so he
can feel comfortable still (although Steve Waugh was starting to come good
again last Summer).

Martyn - nah, I think they did the right thing by leaving the batting lineup
stable. There are two reasons for this. Firstly, shuffling batting lineups
doesn't really do anybody any good unless absolutely necessary. Granted, the
Aussie batsman have by and large not performed, and in some cases, without much
excuse. But Moody can bat - he's performed in Tests before, so why not give him
time to find his feet? Being plunged in Test cricket as an opener after
chopping and changing during your first class career is probably not that easy.

Secondly, I don't think Martyn is genuine chance of being a Test cricketer this
(Australian) Summer. He's got talent, but not enough experience (which is why
he's on the tour). Better to make DM hungry and let Tom Moody get settled.

> Anyway, a good day for Lanka (could have been better though) and for Border 
> and Mathews.

Yes, Mathews has saved Australia's bacon on this tour. Overall, I think the
batting has got to improve to beat the WIndies.

> 
> 						- Vaibhav.

--
Rob.

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From: raj@psych.colorado.edu (Rajan Mahadevan)
Subject: Hadlee's bowling average
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:04:21 GMT

Some of the other bowlers who have averaged 5 wickets per test match:
Lillie: 5.07 (a trifle higher than Hadlee's 5.02), 
Grimmett: 5.97 (216 wkts in 37 tests)
Orielly: 5.33 (144 wkts in 27 tests)
Barnes: 7.00 (!): 189 wickets from 27 tests. This is the all time high 
average
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From: ccrob@uqvax.cc.uq.oz.au
Subject: Re: whingeing aussies
Organization: The Prentice Centre, Uni of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:03:50 GMT

In article <10702830.25.716086156@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>, 10702830@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (RAJIB DATTA) writes:
> 
> 	It said on a local radio report today that " play was stopped  in 
> the third test between Australia and Sri Lanka due to supposed bad light
>                                                       ^^^^^^^^
> What does this infer? Apparently Border wasn't very happy that the umpires 
> decided to call off play for the day because the Aussies were in a 
> commanding position. I think Allan Border should really open his eyes. 

   {...}

> play would be posssible. Anyway, I think it is about time Allan Border 
> stopped whineing so much. He is always one of the first to defend 
> Australia's umpires when they make seemingly genuine mistakes, but ready to 
> bag anybody else that might be doing anything wrong. 

Sigh....

You forgot to mention that when the players went off, the cloud cover was not
heavy, and that play was resumed later on in the afternoon. This is
significant, in that it is possible that Border had a fair point.

The Australians have been at pains on this tour to keep any and all
controversy over umpiring out of the spotlight. Whilst the media have reported
the difference in LBW rates, for instance, *no* Australian player has made
*any* comment.

Note that from this distance, I am not offering any judgement. I am simply
pointing out that Australian efforts on this tour to keep things harmonious
should be given some credence before people start firing from the hip.

> Take it easy Allan and don't stay in international cricket too long just so 
> that you can overtake Sunil Gavaskar's all time record of 10,122 runs!

Ah, the green-eyed monster makes an appearance.

> Raj.

--
Rob.
From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Border's runs in test cricket
Date: 14 Sep 92 03:10:45 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide
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In article <92255.233354U17868@uicvm.uic.edu>, U17868@uicvm.uic.edu writes:

> Does anybody know what is the total of Allan Border's runs in test cricket afte
> r hitting a century against Sri Lanka  in the third test.

Once the statistics become available, I'll post an update on AB's test record,
and if I have time, the other Aussies as well.

--
Daniel.
From: moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Pair and a hundred (Was Re: Australia v. Sri Lanka Notes.)
Date: 15 Sep 1992 11:13:17 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


In article <10170064@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> rajeev@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Rajeev Menon) writes:
>In rec.sport.cricket, moghal@aludra.usc.edu (Nadeem Moghal) writes:

>>>     Javed Miandad had a very interesting sequence, starting during the
>>>     course of the same series:
>>> 
>>>     Had he completed his half-century at Karachi, he would have shared
>>>     the world record.
>
>Javed incidentally holds the record for most consecutive 50s in ODIs. Don't
>know how many (9, I think )

Or is it eleven? Did he break Greenidge's record, or was it the other
way round? I do rememebr, though, that it happened in the latter half
of 1987.

>>>     >What about the record for the most ducks in a row?!

>Penkaj Roy, perhaps. (Yes, the same man who shares the 1st wkt record stand
>of 412 with Mankad.) I think in one series he made 5 consecutive ducks
>followed by a 99 !! I need to check if the ducks were consecutive.

A very interesting observation here: Did he have a pair followed by a
score of 99?

I remember having done some research a loing time back, on batsmen
following a pair by a hundred in the next test they played. One
example is Mohinder Amarnath. The next test he played after that
disastrous, repeat, DISASTROUS (sp) series against Windies in '83-84
was against Pakistan in October of '84. And he began with a hundred
in Lahore. (109*)

Eddie Hemmings of England had a close miss. In the second test of
the Ashes series (at Brisbane?) of 1982-83, he bagged a pair. He
didn't get to play the next two tests, but came back in Sydney
where, as a nightwatchman, scored 95 runs. (Or, was it in the 
ever-popular Melbourne test? I don't think so.)

Majid Khan of Pakistan had a reverse record. His hundred against
Australia at Lembourne, in 1978-79 was followed by a pair at 
Perth.

Any more such occurences that anyone can think of? I know there
have been more than handful of them. And unlike Eddie's case,
most of them have been by renowned batsmen.

Perhaps Javed Burki also had a similar sequence in 1961-62 and
1962.

>Back to work,

:-(

>rajeev

Nadeem Moghal

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From: dgrove@axion.bt.co.uk (David Grove)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: England Tourists to India, Sri Lanka and Australia.
Date: 8 Sep 92 11:45:59 GMT
Reply-To: dgrove@axion.bt.co.uk (David Grove)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


In article 21082 I wrote:

>Excuse my ignorance, but am I right in believing that Stewart is the only
>WK in the side?

Sorry, my mistake!!

Thanks to *ALL* those people who reminded me about Blakey.

Dave Grove.
From: shirona@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (for a safer planet)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Aus V SL
Date: 14 Sep 92 02:27:42 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana

Can someone please supply the scorecard for the third test of the SL V AUS.

shirona
    
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From: 10702830@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (RAJIB DATTA)
Subject: whingeing aussies
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, Monash University 
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 00:49:16 GMT


	It said on a local radio report today that " play was stopped  in 
the third test between Australia and Sri Lanka due to supposed bad light
                                                      ^^^^^^^^
What does this infer? Apparently Border wasn't very happy that the umpires 
decided to call off play for the day because the Aussies were in a 
commanding position. I think Allan Border should really open his eyes. 
Maybe he has forgotten about the Melbourne test against India in 1983 ( I 
think) when India needed only a few runs to win with one session left and 
the umpires were very quick to call  off the game. The M.C.G. was full of 
sunshine about 20 minutes after the umpires had decided that no further 
play would be posssible. Anyway, I think it is about time Allan Border 
stopped whineing so much. He is always one of the first to defend 
Australia's umpires when they make seemingly genuine mistakes, but ready to 
bag anybody else that might be doing anything wrong. 

Take it easy Allan and don't stay in international cricket too long just so 
that you can overtake Sunil Gavaskar's all time record of 10,122 runs!


Raj.
From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Aussie v Sri Lanka update
Date: 12 Sep 92 10:20:45 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide
NNTP-Posting-Host: eco.economics.adelaide.edu.au

Hi guys, Rob here not Daniel (who posts from my account as well)

well I just watched the ABC news and missed the cricket scores.  However my
mother told me that Sri Lanka declared about 70 runs behind and Australia went
in to bat.  Now come the surprise!  They are 4/9!!  $ wickets for 9 runs
against SRI LANKA!!

Brings a touch of a smile to a Yorkshiremans face....

regs

Rob
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From: u1065904@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (POG)
Subject: to AB's knockers
Reply-To: u1065904@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au
Organization: Faculty of Architecture, University of New South Wales
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:02:56 GMT

Keywords: 
Allan Border walks on water


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From: diwadkva@ctrvx2.vanderbilt.edu (Vaibhav A. Diwadkar)
Subject: Hadlee Over the Sub-Continent .....
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 00:04:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep5.223955.22180@walter.bellcore.com>, 
shamim@.bellcore.com writes...

>Does anybody have access to Hadlee's figures in India and Pakistan? 
>The reason I ask is that some players claim that Hadlee ducked 
>tours of India and Pakistan because of his fear that the dead wickets would 
>ruin his figures. 
> 

	- These insinuations may be of only limited veracity.  Hadlee toured
	India with every test team they brought during his career.  The truth
	of the matter is that that amounts to only two tours, '76-'77 and
	'88 (not sure of the exact year here).  He had a pretty good tour
	in '88(?) and in fact bowled NZ to a win at Bombay. India won both
	series' however.  (On second thought I remember Richard Collinge
	bowling in '76-'77 but not Hadlee, maybe I'm wrong?)

	- Hadlee declined the opportunity of playing the World Cup in '87.
	This may have been a calculative move by him, since its unlikely 
	that even his presence would have pushed NZ in a position to 
	challenge the favorites and Hadlee, being 36 at the time, may have 
	thought the opportunity costs to him (in terms of his fitness) 
	would deprive him of some more test cricket (I suspect he was not 
	yet the leading wicket taker in tests in '87).

	- As for touring Pak, I can't believe there were all that many 
	tours of NZ to Pak in the last 20 years and I suspect that if
	indeed Hadlee pulled out of tours their number could not be more
	than one or two.  NZ's last tour of course does not count since 
	Hadlee had retired by then.

	- So in sum, Hadlee did not play the WCup in '87 but was on board 
	for at least the 2nd NZ tour of India and probably the first.  The 
	second tour almost certainly did not ruin his figures.

	- In any case, the lack of interest of many players to tour the
	sub continent is tacitly condoned by their home media who find
	very little glitter in what was once the "Jewel in the Crown".
	After all you can't expect the non-"natives" to endure the water,
	the temparatures, the curry, the crowds, the dead pitches, the 
	umpires ...... :-)

	- Has Botham's Mother-in-Law been sighted in Karachi yet?  :-)

								- Vaibhav.

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From: shamim@.bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273)
Subject: Re: Richard Hadlee Shares His (derogatory
Reply-To: shamim@.bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Morristown, NJ
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 92 22:39:55 GMT

In article 715718913@lear.cs.duke.edu,  azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar) writes:
>In article <1992Sep04.222501.8425@ecst.csuchico.edu> jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes:
>>QQQ: What is your opinion about the ICC match referee?
>>JNA: Froget ICC!  Its time to call Beefy on his mobile phone again and ask
>>     him about his cricket attorney.  We need to talk about Sir Richard
>>     and these interviews he is giving -- you know, bringing disrepute to 
>>     the game.  Time to sort *him* out.
>
>	   Sir Richard was a great bowler, but not much of a sportsman. I
>was surprised at him wishing it would rain when Pakistan was thrashing
>the effeminate NZ attack all over the place. As a New Zealander, he
>could have wished, but no sportsman worth his salt, would like to see
>his/her team win at the cost of the game.
>
>dsqa

Does anybody have access to Hadlee's figures in India and Pakistan? 
The reason I ask is that some players claim that Hadlee ducked 
tours of India and Pakistan because of his fear that the dead wickets would 
ruin his figures. 

	--SAN
From: alis@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (Sal-Myster)
Subject: Re: PAK, ENG  ONE DAYS ON PPV
Followup-To: ME!!
Summary: MANNERS!!!! which some people lack...
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 08:26:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.044757.10876@cs.su.oz.au> tom@cs.su.oz.au writes:
>In article <9209101902.AA13080@cs.utexas.edu>, aapfl6!zulfiqar@aapfl1.attmail.com writes:
>|>         DON'T  FORGET  PAKISTAN  VS  ENGLAND  ODI  THIS  SATURDAY
>|> 
>|>                                 ON  PPV
>|> 

	stuff deleted.....

>|>         will see if I can get the answers.
>
>	Why don't you bugger off?
>	
>	tom


	Hey dude, that is not nice.. i think you need to bug off yourself!!

	Salman
From: urs@carp.cis.ufl.edu (Uppili Srinivasan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Border total runs ?
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:50:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Hi,

Could anyone tell me the total number of runs Border has scored in test
cricket. This is including his 24 test century.

Also does he have a good record against the West Indies ?

Thanks in advance.
From: sanjay@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Sanjay K. Mazumdar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Border gets a 100
Date: 9 Sep 92 06:11:42 GMT
Organization: Electrical and Electronic Eng., University of Adelaide


Well Alan Border has finally made his 24th test century, almost 4 years
after his last against Pakistan in Faisalabad. And what a time to get -
Aust were 5/50+ when he arrived at the crease after the top order
was decimated by the awesome pace line-up of Sri Lanka. Bring on
Pakistan and the West Indies, I say. After the Aussies superb performance
against Sri Lanka on this tour, we will no doubt prove once and for
all that Australia is the best cricketing nation in the world :-)

Sanjay 'waiting to be called up by either India or Australia' Mazumdar
-- 
Sanjay Mazumdar
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From: amanning@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning)
Subject: Re: World's worst fielder
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:42:11 GMT

How about Bob Willis (Eng) as one of the worst?

And my vote for best (from current players) is for Mark Greatbatch (he's
absolutely amazing).

Andrew M.
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Subject: Re: World's worst fielder
From: John.Mcmullan@comp.vuw.ac.nz (John Michael McMullan)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:39:34 GMT
Organization: NewZnet Support Group, VUW, New Zealand.


It's a bit dissapointing to see that your list of the best wicket keepers does
not include what a lot of commentators called the best in the world from the mid
eighties to the recent world cup where he was getting just a bit old and tired
to stick it with the 'Young Guns'.

IAN SMITH - I wish I knew his actual figures but I do know that he has the best
record in NZ. Not many other international sides seem to keep their keepers
long enough for them to establish themselves as REALLY GOOD wicket keepers.
But still I think it's time we looked at someone else. A lot of the blame for
not beating Pakistan in the semi seemed to fall on his shoulders.

All the same, I'm still surprised he is forgotten so easily.

BTW if I'm wrong and Ian Smith was really useless and visiting commentators
were just being polite/patronising then please remember that Ian Smith came
along just before Knott and Marsh (who were v.good) retired.
From: corsair@ravel.udel.edu (CORSAIR the Pirate)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: World's worst fielder
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:21:09 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

Some of the worst fielders I have seen are Salil Ankola (Ind),
Ravi Ratnayake (SL), Rumesh Ratnayake (SL), Mohinder Amarnath (Ind),
Wasim Akram (in the '87 WC), Salim Jaffer (Pak), Dilip Vengsarkar (after
'89), Kiran More (Ind) (what a pathetic keeper!), Atul Wassan (Ind),
Dilip Doshi (Ind), Chandrashekar (Ind) (although he was affected by polio).

Some of the best fielders I've seen are:

Eknath Solkar (Ind)
Azharuddin (Ind)
Dean Jones (Aust)
Pataudi Jr. (Ind)
Harper (WI)
Logie (WI)
Botham (Eng) ---> slips. 
Srikkanth (Ind)
Maninder Singh (Ind)
Boon (Aust)
Ejaz Ahmed (Pak)

Along with these, I remember the Kiwis and Zimbabweans coming in for a lot of 
praise for their fielding during the '87 WC.

Oh, also, before everyone freaks out, some of the above mentioned fielders
were very good in their heydays. Now of course, Sri is not as good.

Some of the best keepers I've ever seen are:

Marsh (Aust)
Knott (Eng) ---> saw him only once, and was very impressive
S.Vishwanath (Ind)
Kirmani (Ind)
Salim Yusuf (Pak) --> He's had his moments
Dujon (WI)



Stay cool.
May the Schwartz be with you.
Corsair the Pirate
From: jhelberg@nl.oracle.com (Joost Helberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Pakistan beat Dutch XI with 7 runs!
Date: 11 Sep 92 10:24:53 GMT
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raza@sarek.ccs.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed) writes:
: In article <92246.085707SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
: >Joost Helberg <jhelberg@nl.oracle.com> asked me to post this since his
: >
: >It was nice to see that during change of over, children crowded the pakistan
: >fielders at the boundary to get signatures, 2/3 of the public was Pakistan.
: >
: >
: How much was the total crowd?
: 
about 3500 people, we got 10 minutes coverage on the TV that sunday!
This 10 minutes is unique in the Netherlands, only the Pakistan batting 
innings was recorded however.

Wish me luck: I'm about to take off for the 
	OPEN DUTCH CHAMPIONSHIP BEACH CRICKET
this weekend, I played in the final two years ago as a guset player for
Concordia, we won.


--  
   Joost Helberg                                Rijnzathe 6
   jhelberg@oracle.nl                           NL-3454 PV De Meern
   jhelberg@nl.oracle.com                       The Netherlands

   Oracle Europe BV                             Product Line Development	
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From: guptar@ucs.orst.edu (gupta rakesh forest products)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: India's tour to Zimb. and SA
Date: 8 Sep 1992 13:45:50 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



Hi

Can someone send me India's tour schedule to Zimbabwe and South Africa?
Team, If announced?

thanks
rakesh
guptar@ucs.orst.edu

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