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From: cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Underrated/Overrated Actor/Actress
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:15:33 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

aknowles@expert.expert.com (Anne Knowles) writes:

>How about overrated, too?

>Actor: Most Underated -- Ed Harris
>       Most Overated -- Kevin Costner

>Actress: Most Underated -- Linda Hunt
>         Most Overated -- Can't think of one right now but sure I will

Probably because there are so many to choose from:
         Uma Thurman
         Julia Roberts
          Roseanne Arnold
             for starters.  A candidate for most under-rated would be
Catherine O'Hara.

Christina O'Sullivan
cosulliv@sfu.ca
From: braun@daytona.tunl.duke.edu (Richard Braun)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Varese-Sarabande (was: Conan Soundtrack)
Keywords: Varese Sarabande, Conan
Date: 14 Dec 92 06:31:30 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1g4tktEINN70r@uni-erlangen.de> uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann) writes:
>atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin) writes:
>
>>The soundtrack to "Conan the Barbarian" was recently released on Varese-
>>Sarabande on CD.  You should be able to get it somewhere nearby.
>

  Thanks to the people who told me about Varese Sarabande; they really
  seem to have released a lot of great soundtracks on CD, but as to
  the Conan the Barbarian, they don't seem to have that.  They DO have
  the sequel soundtrack, Conan the Destroyer,  which from my memory of
  the movie was mostly a remix of the original movie'w score.  But I
  think there were a few tracks absent on the sequel soundtrack which
  I would really like to have.  I just wrote a letter tonight to V.S. Inc.
  so maybe I'll know more in a few days (weeks?)  Then again, the sales-
  types at my local CD Stuperstore could have been mistaken...

  




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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Re: Watchmen
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:14:05 GMT

I hate to break this to you, lads, but Watchman just isn't
going to happen.  I heard this from a friend who is a screen writer,
and everythiugn else she's told me has panned out, so I trust her
word.  Don't hold your breath.

Oh, and in case you're wondering, Good Omens isn't going happen either.
I think Gilliam was also rumoured to have wanted to direct that.
Terry Pratchett told me no.  And don't even ask about "SANDMAN: The Movie"....

LJC
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From: k206027@smog.DKRZ-Hamburg.DE (Bakayaroo Banzai)
Subject: Re: What is Molly Ringwald doing
Keywords: molly ringwald
Organization: Deutsches Klimarechenzentrum GmbH, Hamburg
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 08:03:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.070701.14584@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>In article <1992Dec13.004359.17244@cs.mcgill.ca> jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec9.231625.16292@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>>>In article <Bz05FJ.7uz@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, anderson@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Chris Anderson) writes:
>>>> 
>>>> What is Molly Ringwald doing these days?  Last I heard, she had
>>>
>>>
>>>Just hanging out.  Watching Roseanne right now.
>>
>>Why the sudden interest in Molly Ringworm?
>>
Last I heard, she was working in a Hollywood clinic donating her 
excess lip collagen to actresses less fortunate than herself...

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Subject: Re: Speilberg
From: whan@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:46:27 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

Steven Speilberg can make fine science fiction films but when it comes to more
serious work, I don't think he can cut it.  Some people wil say "What about the
Color Purple?  That was a serious movie that was nominated for a ton of Oscars? 
I really must say, since I first read the book, the movie really sucked.  It
took a beautiful novel and totally changed the meaning and perverted its
message.  I suggest to anyone who thinks that The Color Purple is a great movie
to go read the novel and find the true message Alice Walker intended and not
one roughly paraphrased by Speilberg.

Winfield Han
WHAN@eagle.wesleyan.edu


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From: dpruitt@cpqhou.compaq.com (Daniel Pruitt)
Subject: Re: Movie Question - LORENZO'S OIL
Reply-To: dpruitt@cpqhou.UUCP (Daniel Pruitt)
Organization: Compaq Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:19:46 GMT

Saul Markowitz <sm6t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Hi!  Has anyone heard anything about the new movie entitled "Lorenzo's
>Oil" with Susan Sarandon and Nick Nolte? I'm very excited about this
>movie because there is a senior drama student from Carnegie Mellon
>University named Maduka Steady who has a lead role in the movie.
>.... Also, has anyone seen a sneak preview?

I've seen a preview here in Houston.  It's not bad.  The acting is
pretty good with the possible exception of Nick Nolte's poor Italian accent.
There is liberal use of the Adagio in Strings (spelling?) piece that was
so prominant in PLATOON.  Very blatent emotional content.  

I was surprised to find out that the movie is non-fiction.


Also while I'm here, I also recently saw SCENT OF A WOMAN.  Pacino is
very good in his role, the young boy in the movie (forgot his name) did
a good job, too.  The main complaint with this movie is that it is too
long (2 hours 20+ minutes).  I don't fear long movies, one of my favs is
GODFATHER PART II, but SCENT OF A WOMAN seemed to drag on a bit.
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From: staffelb@acd.ucar.edu (Thomas Staffelbach 497-1499 room 382)
Subject: Haircuts and scripts
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research - Atmospheric Chemistry Div
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:11:35 GMT

something I was always wondering:
In some movies actors/actresses undergo quite some changes in how
they look. The length of hair changes, beards come and go. I was  
wondering whether that is a problem while shooting a movie. I guess
you can do all the long haired stuff first and then gradually cut 
it as the script demands. Hopefully you don't have to get back
and shoot some of the other scenes.
I guess actors also spend a lot of time let their hair and beards
grow. 
Anybody has some thoughts about that?
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From: stephen@cs.uow.edu.au (Stephen Lance Rogan)
Subject: Re: annoying nuances in films
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:39:35 GMT

jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH) writes:

>ceo2p@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Christine Ellen O'connor) writes:
>>       Why is it that some of the most annoying little things
>>that are so obvious in films really turn you inside out while
>>watching a film???

>[Ferinstances deleted]

>>I hate these nuances!!  My question is: if they are so obvious
>>to us, why does someone in the film-making process miss us?
>>Don't they have people to check for these types of slips?

>They're called script supervisors, and they're the people who are supposed to
>remember how much of the beer should still be in the glass, to which page the
>newspaper was open, what time the clock read, etc. etc., for continuity
>bewtween different takes.

>The S.S. must work without prints from the earlier (e.g.) prior day's shoot,
>so it's a daunting task that requires a gargantuan memory. Often it's over
>several days/weeks. I can forgive a few snafus, and to be honest, it gives me
>an opportunity to hunt them out as a pastime.

>(Info gleaned from a good New York Times article from last Sunday 12-6).

If it was such a hard task to link it all together, how can us mere mortals
pick them out so fast ? I would prefer to think they do the best they can
given the previous days shoot, knowing that to ask for to many scenes to be
reshot would not be too popular.

Dont get me wrong, I understand it must be a huge task, but I still think
they must stop and look at a rough of what they are doing accasionally.

Stephen.
From: hhtra@usho21.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What is this movie?
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:51:47 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <OLIVER.92Dec15225236@ballard1.mit.edu>, oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec15.143705.507@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") wrote:
|> > 	Your quote, more often heard as "Come weez me to ze
|> > Casbah," was never spoken in any film.
|> 
|> Actually, I bet it *was* spoken in several films, just not in the one it
|> which was supposed to have been said.
|> 
|> Just like Dustin Hoffman's immortal "We don't need no steenkin' badges"
|> line in SERPICO.

Dustin Hoffman in SERPICO?  I don't think so!

Besides the "steenking badges" line comes from TREASURE OF THE SIERRA MADRAS
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From: watson@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson - FSC)
Subject: Re: Oliver Stone's  THE BIBLE
Keywords: Oliver Stone
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:53:13 GMT

In article <BzA1nD.EBD@world.std.com> rjk@world.std.com (robert j kolker) writes:
> Would anyone like to speculate what the outcome would be if Oliver Stone
> did THE BIBLE?.  Given his penchant for re-writting *real* history, how
> would he rewrite biblical history?

He'd probably make Jesus into one of those politically-correct,
holier-than-thou, long-haired, the-meek-will-inherit-the-earth,
love-thy-neighbor, intellectual  type liberals. :-)


John S. Watson               watson@ames.arc.nasa.gov
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From: cbh@opus.mlb.semi.harris.com (Cherie Slasor)
Subject: Re: Daniel Day Lewis, Anyone?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:11:51 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

In article <1992Dec17.091608.1@vms.ocom.okstate.edu> churchwell@vms.ocom.okstate.edu (Kimberly B. Churchwell) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.224507.398@Virginia.EDU>, cew2w@Virginia.EDU
>("Chris Wrike") writes:
>> ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU writes:
>>> Just wondering if there's anyone else who was *very* entranced with DDL
>>> in _Last of the Mohicans_, as my best friend and I were when we saw it?
>> 
>> 	I was not at all pleased by Day-Lewis' performance.  He
>> delivered his lines with the tone and idiocy of a California
>> surfer.  "I sure as hell ain't in your damn militia"?  Please.
>
>A lot of the dialogue was stilted, yeah, but I thought Day-Lewis did a
>credible job with what he was given.  And I think that Ms. Stowe
>deserves a bonus for delivering, with a straight face, what I
>thought was the worst line in the movie:  "On the contrary, it is more
>stirring to my blood than any imagining...", or somesuch idiocy. 
>-- 

I agree that a lot of the dialogue was difficult, but I felt like that
was a result of James Fenimore Cooper's writing.  I haven't read LOTM
but I have read other books written in the same time period and that's
how they wrote.  As far as I know, that's how people really spoke.  It
just added to the feeling of historical authenticity as far as I was
concerned.

And you're right, Madeline Stowe did a great job with those lines.  DDL
only choked on a couple (such as, "I'm not remembering.  I wasn't but
one or two.") but the shot of him in his loincloth more than made up
for it.  :^)


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From: wht3a@Virginia.EDU (William Harmon Thompson)
Subject: Re: Oliver Stone's  THE BIBLE
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:55:11 GMT

No, Jesus couldn't be cast as a present day politically
correctoid.  PC people generally don't like to be held
accountable to any standard of moral behavior or believe that
there are consequences for actions.  Nor do they see too
straight.  The Christ was unconditionally loving, compassionate
and fair, but he held no illusions about one's behavior and the
the consequences it engendered.  He`d insist on moral behavior.
From: kachun@astro.as.arizona.edu (Ka Chun Yu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Problems with DieHard 2
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:20:55 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Dec15.202534.4686@Virginia.EDU> rrb2x@Virginia.EDU (Richard Ramiaz Banks) writes:
>	I agree with your first statment about Die Hard II that
>the fuel would have burned in both directions, but beyond that
>you're wrong.  Grenades have adjustable timers on them.  You
>can have one go off thirty seconds after you throw it if you
>want.  About lighting the runway, remember that the Colonel
>said that any attempt to relight the runway will be punished,
>so placing ambulances and firetrucks on the runway would have
>been risky for safety reasons--a 747 has a huge wing span--and
>because it would have threatened human lives.
>
>	Rikilla the Hun was here

Also aren't modern jets going pretty fast when they're taking off?  You're
looking at a trail of flames that has to catch up to a plane moving at
70-90 miles an hour (??--anyone know the actual figure?).


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From: cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike")
Subject: Re: Highest gross movies
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:34:38 GMT

tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com  writes:
> 
> When people talk about the highest grossing movie, do they take into
> account of inflation?  A more accurate measure would be listing 
> of movies with largest number of sold tickets.

 	Normally they don't.

	Last year Variety took inflation into account and
listed the top ten movies of all time adjusted for 1991
dollars.  I think the first five were something like this:

1.  Star Wars
2.  E.T.
3.  Gone With the Wind
4.  The Exorcist
5.  The Wizard of Oz

	E.T. is the top grossing film without inflation
adustment, followed by Star Wars and Home Alone.  The unadjusted 
list includes the Indiana Jones trilogy, the rest of the
Star Wars trilogy, Batman, T2, Beverly Hills Cop 2, and Ghost. 
	Variety also mentioned that recent blockbusters like T2
and Home Alone would have to have made 200 mil. and 150 mil.
more respectively to make it on to the adjusted list.

	-- Chris Wrike
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: hollywood movies
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:10:47 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

In article <BzCzGI.261@nic.umass.edu> a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly) writes:

>Hollywood owns two of the top 5 exhibitors, United Artists owns UA cinemas
>(the largest) and Loews (4th largest.)  For the curious, AMC and General
>Cinemas are 2 and 3 respectively as of October.

I thought UA cinemas was split off from United Artists studios many
decades ago, as part of a big antitrust settlement.  In fact, weren't
all the studios forced to give up their movie theatre holdings then?
(This was in the 1950s or 60s, I believe.)  Have they rejoined?

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov

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From: akif@sequent.com (Aki Fleshler)
Subject: Re: Hal Roach
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 16:53:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.133635.20603@spdc.ti.com> mack@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Caren Mack) writes:
>Hi!
>
>     I have several questions here and thought this would be the place to
>get the answers.  I found out that Hal Roach was my grandmothers cousin.
>I was wanting to write him to see if you could tell me anything about the
>that branch of the family, and...my grandmother and her sister had a
>Vaudeville dance team that traveled the Orphium Theater Circuit back around
>1910, so I thought he might tell me something about that or were I might
>find info.  I "suspect" Mr. Roach might have been the influence for them to
>get into show business in the first place. I know he was into silent films,
>but Vaudeville was overlapping with them at that time.
>     Well I was all fired-up to write him, but a friend of mine told me he 
>died several months ago, but I didn't hear anything about that.
>     1. Is Hal Roach still alive?
>     2. If he is, does anyone know were I can get an address to write him?
>     3. Does anyone know what his wives name is/was?
>     4. Does anyone know were Vaudeville records would be archived?
>     I'll be going back home on vacation to California this next summer and 
>hope to be able to look through some records about the Vaudeville circuit if
>any are available in that area.    
>     I would greatly appreciate any help or ideas.

	OK, I'll bite: why did you post this to rec.martial-arts?????????????

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From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Overrated Actor/Actress
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:46:30 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:

}Now if we want to talk overrated actors, what about actors that are called
}great actors, and have won aclaim for *their acting* but you think are awful.

Sure.  I know that this will be considered total sacrilege by most, but
Meryl Streep gets my award as the actress with the most acclaim and the
least acting ability.

--James Preston
From: ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING film in my childhood
Date: 17 Dec 92 17:24:30 GMT
Organization: UNC Charlotte

I will *never* forget the first horror movie I saw - I was about 10
and went with my cousin, who went to that stuff all the time.  It was
in a *really* old theater, and was a double feature.  The first one
was called _The Thing Without A Face_, and it was your standard 50's
nuclear scare movie, but at 10 years old, I thought it was the single
most terrifying experience of my life.  I spent most of the time out
in the lobby (I was the shortest person out there, though) watching
from the doorway.  I couldn't seem *not* to look, even though I was
so frightened.  The second feature was something about Jack the Ripper's
knife possessing people and causing them to murder/mutilate women.  It
didn't make nearly the impression on me as the other.  For *years* after
that I had to go to sleep with the lights on, and any noise I heard
outside my window (I lived in the country, so there were noises all
night long) was that awful thing from the movie coming to get in my
room.  I was in college before I could watch another horror movie,
and it was _Hush, Hush, Sweet Charlotte_.  A few years later, while
still in college, I saw _The Thing Without A Face_ on tv, and found
it to be unrealistic, etc.  Still, I'll never forget how frightened
I was that first time.
 
--Jean
From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Oliver Stone's THE BIBLE
Keywords: Oliver Stone
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:24:32 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

rjk@world.std.com (robert j kolker) writes:

>Would anyone like to speculate what the outcome would be if Oliver Stone
>did THE BIBLE?.  Given his penchant for re-writing *real* history, how
>would he rewrite biblical history?

Creation would be a conspiracy, Noah's Ark would be an outdated 
passenger ship cited for poor living conditions, the whole Virgin
Mother story would be ripped apart, and each of the twelve disciples
would have to submit resumes.




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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Best foreign films, by country
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:16:32 GMT

In article <yLLqVB3w165w@cithara.login.qc.ca> spongebo@cithara.login.qc.ca (THE EYE-BALL KID) writes:
>
>In an interview with Adriane Clarkson, Norman Jewison complained that the US
>invests EIGHT BILLION (8,000,000,000) dollars in it's film and television
>industry every year. With one tenth of the US population, you'd think we might
>be able to invest 800,000,000. Say, 500,000,000 because of the pop.
>discrepancy. I have no figures to back this up, but I THINK Canadian film and
>TV runs around the 100,000,000 mark -- IF WE'RE LUCKY!

One problem Canada might have with its film industry is that running a
film industry requires a certain critical mass of several sorts - potential
audience, talent, infrastructure.  Alain Tanner, Switzerland's most famous
director, complains that his country lacks that critical mass, making it
almost impossible to create a true Swiss film industry.  Films get made
there very much on an individual basis, not as part of an ongoing business.
The same may be true of Canada.  Many of the better known Canadian talents
(like Jewison) make their careers in the U.S., for precisely this reason.
It's much easier being a professional filmmaker in the U.S. than in Canada,
and lord knows it's an awfully hard thing to be anywhere.  Canada tried
the mega-tax incentive route in the 1970's, but that only led to making
second rate American films with little true Canadian material, just work
for some Canadian actors and technicians.  As soon as the tax incentives
disappeared, so did the work, because there was no longer any good reason
not to do it in the U.S.

Canada may also suffer from another problem of the Swiss industry.  Both
countries have significant fractions of their populations speaking 
different languages.  (It's worse and better in Switzerland, I expect -
they've got four official languages, I believe, but I imagine bilingualism
is much more firmly established there than in Canada.)  A film made in
English in Canada doesn't automatically appeal to the French Canadians,
and visa versa.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu