HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: u8800914@cs.uow.edu.au (Mohammad Salim Olime)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: KABUL IS BURNING
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:07:15 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

I agree in almost everything you are saying.But I would have like 
to see the phrase AFGHAN PEOPLE in place of AFGHAN NATION which
you are quite frequently using(unless you want to irretate the Ikhawnes).
Since from the theme of your posting which I am a  regular follower
I don't think you are an AFGHAN MILATEE??. If you are than that is your 
line of thinking and I have no objection.Use the the word nation as wish.
I hope you don't take this as an ensult.It is just an idea.
Keep the good work.
Ba omid sul'ha dar watan.
From: yea027@muvms3.bitnet (Mariam Bashar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Demonstration for Bosnia?
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:38:16 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

Salam alaikum wa rahmatullah,
	A Muslim brother has informed me that there may be a demonstration in
support of Bosnia on Friday, 21 August 1992 at 1:30 PM.  It is supposed to be
held in Washington, DC in front of the White House.  Could a brother or
sister in the DC area please confirm this information.
May Allah bring peace to the Mulim Umma.
salam,
Mariam Bashar
From: exuasqa@exu.ericsson.se (Asem Qaddoura,xt-dk,1209)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: Turkish General Protest Governement being sl
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:17:23 GMT
Reply-To: exuasqa@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


What is this.......Please don't waste our time reading such lies.
From: 1ebadi@challenger.ksu.ksu.edu (Abdul Ebadullah Ebadi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Looking for an English/Persian dictionary
Date: 20 Aug 1992 14:48:05 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: challenger.ksu.ksu.edu

     I am looking for an English to Persian dictionary (the Persian spoken in Afghanistan not Iran - there's a small difference). Any help would be appreciated. 


Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
From: endevour@wam.umd.edu (...)
Subject: Re: KABUL IS BURNING
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:26:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.191639@IASTATE.EDU> jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed A Khan) writes:
>
>
>I wonder what the champions of the ISLAMIC BROTHERHOOD on this net have to 
>say about the carnage taking place on the streets of Kabul.
>
>--Javed.
>

When one can kill, in cold blood, one thousand innocent and defenseless
peaple which includes women and children, I am sure lying about the incident 
do not take much of an effort. 

Only through their silence about the murder of one thousand Muslim brothers and
sisters you can tell what kind of champions they are and what kind of brother- 
hood they believe in.
From: yea027@muvms3.bitnet (Mariam Bashar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: KABUL IS BURNING
Date: 19 Aug 92 10:20:41 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

Bismillahe rahmano raheem

Salaam alaikum wa rahmatullah brothers and sisters,
	In regards to the blood shed in Afghanistan, it is imperative
that we Muslims now unite.  All over the world, their is violence against the
Umma and rather than breaking ourselves up into factions, we must all work
together for the survival of our brothers and sisters whether it is in
Afghanistan, Bosnia, or anywhere else in the world.  Rather than insult each
group of our people, we should think together on how to solve the problems that
Muslim people are facing today.
	Agreeably so, the people of Afghanistan need no more blood spilled, but
they do need to have a nation based on Islamic law for that is what we have
fought for in the past 14 years.  Let's not condemn anyone, but put our minds
together to find a solution to the mess.  Start with prayers for guidance, then
perhaps the thinkers of our people should come up with solutions NOT words of
hatred for the fighting in Afghanistan and everywhere else.  Each and everyone
of us who call call themselves Muslims have a duty to Islam throughout the
world not just the country whence we come.
	My plea to all Muslims is to unite in the name of Allah subhanahu wa
ta'ala and show the world the brotherhood/sisterhood, the love, the peace, and
the courage tought to us by Rasulillah.  Join together to spread Islam not
disagreement.
	May Allah guide us in everything we do.
salam alaikum,
Mariam Bashar
From: pnmideast@igc.apc.org
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:11 PDT
Subject: SECRETARY-GENERAL CONCERNED FIGHTI
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1592700007:000:1597
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!pnmideast    Aug 15 20:11:00 1992


From: <pnmideast>
Subject: SECRETARY-GENERAL CONCERNED FIGHTI

/* Written  4:34 pm  Aug 15, 1992 by peg:unic in cdp:unic.news */
/* ---------- "SECRETARY-GENERAL CONCERNED FIGHTI" ---------- */

	 This information is provided by the United Nations
	 Information Centre in Sydney for Australia, New Zealand
	 and the South Pacific . For further information please
	 call 283 1144.
						      SG/SM/4796
						      14 August
						      1992

 SECRETARY-GENERAL DEEPLY CONCERNED AT FURTHER ESCALATION OF
 FIGHTING IN KABUL,

    IS 'PARTICULARLY GRIEVED' BY HEAVY LOSS OF LIFE AMONG UNARMED
    CIVILIANS

     The following is attributable to the spokeswoman for
Secretary-General Boutros Boutros-Ghali:

     The Secretary-General notes with deep concern that the
fighting in Kabul has escalated even further since his appeal of
10 August.  He is particularly grieved by the heavy loss of life
among the unarmed civilian population.

     The Secretary-General appeals once again to all parties
involved to exercise maximum restraint and to lay down their arms
immediately so that a dialogue could begin that would lead to a
peaceful solution to the conflict.

     The Secretary-General also calls on the parties to take every
measure to protect the security of the diplomatic missions and
international organizations and the safety of their personnel.  In
this regard, the Secretay-General urges all those involved in the
hostilities to heed the appeal of the Security Council for the
establishment of necessary conditions to ensure the safe
evacuation of foreign personnel.

				    * *** *


Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.iranian
From: mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP)
Subject: Re: KABUL IS BURNING
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:02:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.130719.21353@schbbs.mot.com>, yasin@laser.dev.cdx.mot.com (Yasin) writes...
> 
>Today on the radio, some national station broadcasted the news
>of Kabul saying that the shelling was performed by a group of
>"FORMER MUSLIM REBELS".........what happened to the America's
>favourite introduced term "MUJAHIDEEN". Just another example
>of exploiting the name of Muslims negatively.
> 
>
    No there is nothing wrong in it. before they were fighting against
    "Kafers" and therefore they all were MUJAHIDEENs. Now some of them
    are fighting aginst their own "Muslim brothers" (well done keeping
    up with the great muslim traditions) therefore can not be called 
    "MUJAHIDEENS" and REBELS is ok.

    (In reality they are all STUPIDS. Gen. Zia-ul-Haq et all not only
     managed to f...  Pakistan but also Afghanistan)

Mirza Ilyas


Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan,soc.culture.iran,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.arabic
From: lhermi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lotfi Hermi)
Subject: This is only a test... hang up there and wait for me.. ya habiba
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 03:06:10 GMT

****************************************************************************
							*ZINDABAD ISLAM	   *
LOTFI HERMI						*ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
HERMI@SHAPE.MPS.OHIO-STATE.EDU				*ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
LHERMI@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU			*ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
							*ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
*********************************************************ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
YUSUF GOM GASHT-E- BAZ AYYAD BI KAN'YAN GHAM MAKHOR	*ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
							*ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
	KULBA-E-AHZAN SHAVAD RUZI GULSTAN GHAM MAKHOR	*ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
				HAFIZ SHIRAZI		*ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
							*ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
'ABBAS HAI SHIKWA-E- TAQDIR YAZDA-E- 			*ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
	TO KHUD TAQDIR YAZDA-E- KI-UN-NAHI-HE		*ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
				IQBAL 			*ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
*********************************************************ZINDABAD ISLAM    *
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thursday, 20 Aug 1992 10:27:15 EDT
From: <SAYED@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Re: KABUL IS BURNING

In article <116031@muvms3.bitnet>, yea027@muvms3.bitnet (Mariam Bashar) says:
>
>Bismillahe rahmano raheem
>
>Salaam alaikum wa rahmatullah brothers and sisters,
>        In regards to the blood shed in Afghanistan, it is imperative
>that we Muslims now unite.  All over the world, their is violence against the
>Umma and rather than breaking ourselves up into factions, we must all work
>together for the survival of our brothers and sisters whether it is in
>Afghanistan, Bosnia, or anywhere else in the world.  Rather than insult each
>group of our people, we should think together on how to solve the problems
>that
>Muslim people are facing today.
>        Agreeably so, the people of Afghanistan need no more blood spilled,
>but
>they do need to have a nation based on Islamic law for that is what we have
>fought for in the past 14 years.  Let's not condemn anyone, but put our minds
>together to find a solution to the mess.  Start with prayers for guidance,
>then
>perhaps the thinkers of our people should come up with solutions NOT words of
>hatred for the fighting in Afghanistan and everywhere else.  Each and everyone
>of us who call call themselves Muslims have a duty to Islam throughout the
>world not just the country whence we come.
>        My plea to all Muslims is to unite in the name of Allah subhanahu wa
>ta'ala and show the world the brotherhood/sisterhood, the love, the peace, and
>the courage tought to us by Rasulillah.  Join together to spread Islam not
>disagreement.
>        May Allah guide us in everything we do.
>salam alaikum,
>Mariam Bashar

A lesson to be learned.  Thank you Mariam, couldn't have said it
better my self.

Sayed.




Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: endevour@next11pg2.wam.umd.edu (...)
Subject: Nationalist and Islamic Fundamentalist ? 
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:40:07 GMT

The August 14th and 15th issue of the Washington Post  is calling  
Hekmatyar i.e the leader of Hezb-e-Islami, as " a militant Islamic  
fundamentalist and Pushtoon Nationalist ". Sounds like a contradiction to  
me. Reason : Islamic Fundamentalism knows no ethnic and cultural  
boundaries. Nationalism contradicts the very principles of the Ikhwani  
movement. Gulbudin being a follower of this movement can not possibly   
believe in nationalism. Ikhwanism is supposed to  believe in the Islamic  
internationalism , in the unity of the Islamic Umma regardless of their  
national, ethnic, cultural backgrounds. How come Mr.Hekmatyar who 
apparently champions the principles of Ikhwanism in Afghanistan can also
act as an apparent champion of the Pushtoon Nationalism ?

The argument gets even more complex when one sees Mr.Hekmatyar's efforts
to enroll Afghanistan into a loose confederation with Pakistan. So much
for  being a "Pushtoon Nationalist".
From: akumar@pollux.usc.edu (Anant Kumar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: SpicMacay:Indian Dance(ODISSI):LEC-DEM:AUG 19:FREE
Date: 12 Aug 1992 15:34:06 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: pollux.usc.edu


  Society for Promotion of Indian Classical Music And Culture Amongst Youth
                                (SPIC-MACAY)

                                 presents

                   An evening (Lecture-Demonstration) with

           	 One of the foremost Indian Classical Dancers
			  The Great Odissi Exponent


                             SANJUKTA PANIGRAHI



                        Wednesday Aug. 19, 1992, 7:30 pm.
			
 		       Titan pavilion A, University Center
			  California State University
                                   Fullerton

			**ALSO AT:
			  Peterson Hall, Room 103
			  UC, SAN DIEGO. August 20th, 7:30 pm.
			  Call (619) 291 9377 for more Info.
			**

                        ADMISSION FREE AND OPEN TO ALL.
	     (First Come First Served, limited by hall capacity)

		For CARPOOL and other info, contact:
                           USC, Los Angeles (213) 748-6353 (Kartik)
                           UC, Irvine       (714) 856-3589 (Sanjiv)
                           UC, Los Angeles  (310) 312-1644 (Munira)
			   CSU, Fullerton   (714) 992-5875 (Subha)

                or e-mail: ananthan@usc.edu   (Kartik)

Lecture-Demonstration: 
---------------------
The artist explains the art form and its intricacies. She illustrates
her explanations with demonstrations of each action (mudra) even as she
talks.

The audience will be sitting on the floor, close to the artist. It might be
a good idea to get your own cushions.

Directions and Parking:
----------------------
From 91 Freeway
Take 57 N. (Pomona), Exit Nutwood Avenue. Take left at exit (lights)
right on State College Blvd.
First Right on Dorothy Lane
Immediate Left and go on to Parking Lots A & B.

parking Fee is $2 per car.

---
from 60 Freeway.
Take 57 South, Exit Nutwood. Right at exit and follow above directions.
--------------------------------------------------------
From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: Name of upside-down zamma?
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:48:59 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK


According to some books I found in our library, Pashto uses a
diacritic that looks like an upside-down zamma (a tiny "6") for the
vowel [o] (alone for the short one, together with a waw for the long one).

What is the standard name for this sign?

Please inform me by email.

-- 
 `If ye hiv ears oan yer heid - then use them tae lissen.' (The Glasgow Gospel)
Ivan A Derzhanski   (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk;  iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu)
* Centre for Cognitive Science,  2 Buccleuch Place,  Edinburgh EH8 9LW,  UK
* Cowan House, Pollock Halls, 18 Holyrood Park Road, Edinburgh EH16 5BD, UK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
From: endevour@wam.umd.edu (...)
Subject: Re: KABUL IS BURNING
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:14:32 GMT

In article <4751@daily-planet.concordia.ca> ilyess@davinci.concordia.ca (Ilyess Bdira) writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.191639@IASTATE.EDU> jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed A Khan) writes:
>>
>>
>>I wonder what the champions of the ISLAMIC BROTHERHOOD on this net have to 
>>say about the carnage taking place on the streets of Kabul.
>>
>
>Please do not try to make any ideological gains out of a situation
>that is very clear, The Afghan Mujahedeen were fighting each other
>even before they ousted the communist regime.
>
>Ignorance and intolerence for diffrences in viewpoints are the only
>reason for the difficulties in Pakistan and Afghanistan..
>
>This is neither the fault of Islamic brotherhood outside Afghanistan,
>nor can it show anything about Islamic movements outside your region.
>Abdullah Azzam, the only "Ikhwani" who had any influence on the Mujahideen
>had a moderating and conciliatory influence on the Mujahideen before he
>was assassinated and things went downhill from then on between the Mujahideen.
>

Who was Abdullah Azzam ? I like to know more about him. Why was he assasinated.
How was he involved in the Afghan problem. Where was he from ? I need more
information on Afbdullah Azzam. Why does Mr.Bdira thinks, and on what basis,
that Abdullah Azzams demise was the mile stone for Mojahedin's down fall. 
Please elaborate. How did he manage to influence the Mojahedin ?
From: partha@mse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.afghanistan
Subject: INDIAN FOOD FAIR AT BEAVERTON
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:16:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.41255
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Material Science & Engineering



			INDIA FOOD BAZAAR

	Date: August 15th, Saturday

	Venue: Oregon Graduate Inst.

	Time: 3PM to 8PM

	Free Admission

	Come and taste a variety of Indian food items!

	Direction: Take US 26 West
		   Take the Exit at 185th Ave. Turn Left
		   Take Right at SW Walker Road	
		   Take Left at Compton Dr (Walker Rd. Ends there)
		   OGI is on the left hand side. 
		   Reach the Quadrangle where the Food fair is held. 	
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From: yasin@laser.dev.cdx.mot.com (Yasin)
Subject: Re: KABUL IS BURNING
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:07:19 GMT


Today on the radio, some national station broadcasted the news
of Kabul saying that the shelling was performed by a group of
"FORMER MUSLIM REBELS".........what happened to the America's
favourite introduced term "MUJAHIDEEN". Just another example
of exploiting the name of Muslims negatively.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
From: hani@licorice.engin.umich.edu (Hani Abinassif)
Subject: Re: Symphonies in Rahbani's music!
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 14:36:43 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: hani@licorice.engin.umich.edu


 (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:

>   The second point is really unfair, because Assi was "un homme de coeur".
> All the Rahbanis works reflected a great love to their country, and a big
> affection to their neighbours also (rumours say they were pro-Syrian 
> Nationalists, but this has nothing to do with my admiration). I think their
> approach to "social problems" was to avoid being direct, there are two ways
> to fight the injustice :

Ibaa,

I have to say something since you shifted the discussion a bit:

You are comparing two different schools of music. Marcel on one hand
is committed to the international syndrome of revolutionary change; while
Al-Rahabini (with the exception of Ziad of course) are work_from_within
type of musicians.  Although both schools are musically talented, it is
a stretch of imagination to label Al-Rahabini as musicians_for_a_change...
The scenes you (and others) refered to, are typical (if not repetitive)
cliche's of the Lebanese village and its family feuds which was distant
from the current social strata of the Lebanese Society.  If you take Ziad's
"Esma'a Ya Ridha" for example, (or Nazl AL Souror), you would see a striking
resemblance with the Lebanese social structure.

The difference is:
 
Artist are leaders. Their committment is essential in leading the people.
With important issues such as justice, social change, occupation, and
liberation, to name a few, I fail to see how you can be indirect.  Look at
the Chilian band (forgot the name, "Illumina???") who was deported because
of their music.  There is music and there are Musicians.  There is language
and there are poets.  If you have a message, and believe it is right and just,
why be indirect?  

[....]
>
>   to be more militant than most of the garbage songs of Marcel's clones (the
                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Could you name a few?
I do know who you mean...But from Khaled AlHabr, Ahmad Qa'abour,
Sabreen, George Qermiz, to even Sheikh Imam, I do not see garbage songs.
On the Contrary all are popular, especially among students and intellects.  
So....I do not know if you mean "Sami Clark" :-). (BTW, he was last seen
in Damascus singing with a red Koufia around his neck;-))?


> : I wonder if politics is considered an art in Lebanon-).
> 
>  ALARM, ALARM, EXPLOSIVE SUBJECT, KEEP AWAY PLEASE.

If the Politics "ila Mazaha wa Fakhia"...then be it.
Bas Ma'aiar, wala Yhmak:-) ("Calibrated, do not worry"):-)

-Hani
-- 
 ____    ____ "These views are explicitly/implicitly
|    \  /    | mine...and not that of U-M or CAEN",   
 | |\ \/ /| |  University of Michigan            | Hani_Nassif@um.cc.umich.edu
|__ | \/ |___| Computer Aided Engineering Network| hani@engin.umich.edu
From: najjar@CS.ColoState.EDU (walid najjar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Anyone read Samarakand? By Amin Maalouf
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:43:54 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department


Does an english version EXIST?
if so can someone please post the publisher's name? is it published in UK or US, also
is "Leon l'Africain" translated too?

walid

-- 
Walid A. Najjar, Computer Science Dept.
Colorado State University, najjar@cs.colostate.edu

-- 
Walid A. Najjar, Computer Science Dept.
Colorado State University, najjar@cs.colostate.edu
From: phd21@seq1.keele.ac.uk (A. Jaber)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Corruption in Lebanon
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:33:18 GMT
Reply-To: phd21@seq1.kl.ac.uk (A. Jaber)
Organization: University of Keele, England

From: eliedw@ulrik.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini)

when I told my friend this story, he told me, Ah you should have told me, my
uncle has connections in the phone company and he could have helped you get the
line fixed.

	Sounds like that Lebanon is not much different of other
	countries in the mideast. Is not this a unifying factor.
	Just a reminder to those who think Lebanon has its own culture.

1- pledge that I will never do any thing axcept the way it is presecribed by
law to be done. e.g. throw away my drivers licence which I got as a gift on
Christmass

2- follow up case of corruption and if necessary go to court. e.g. find out why
our telephone line does not work, and point oput the persons or reasons why it
takes so much money to repair a line when we already pay for our calls and the
phone subscription.

3- if there are any illegal acts, to sue the person or instance invloved

This will take much work and expertise. I therefore suggest that we start an
anti-corruption group. THis group will gather expertise and experts that will
follow up cases of corruption. It will help cover the expenses of such action
(expenses from donations etc.). It will include engeneers, doctors, lawyers
etc.

what do you say?

	You ideas are great Elie but I am afraid you are trying to 
	treat the symptoms and not the disease. The cause of corruption
	is sectrianism and lack of democracy. 

	Once we achieve this your points are great. 

elie wardini


A Jaber (the anti-corruption league)