HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wlamonac@beethoven.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: SKIPP AND SPECTOR
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:25:32 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <22JUL92.14102248@sklib.usask.ca> goddard@sklib.usask.ca writes:
>In answer to your query on "anyone know of any other titles?"
>According to Books In Print, the following are currently
>available:
>
>"The Cleanup" 1987 (0-553-26056-1) Bantam
>"Dead Lines" 1989 Bantam
>"The Light at the End" 1986 (0-553-25451-0) Bantam
>"The Scream" 1988 (0-553-26798-1) Bantam
>"Book of the Dead" 1989 (0-553-27998-X) Bantam
>
>Hope this helps!
>
>Heather

Add:
 "The Bridge" 1991 (0-553-29027-4)  Bantam

However, an "About the Authors" section at the end of "The Bridge" says that
it is their seventh book.  Any help on what the final one is?
From: z_mccullocca@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: What is the deal???
Date: 22 Jul 92 11:39:25 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

I want to know what king is up to :::::

      Finished Gerald's Game what a waste of time 

I liked the beginning forget it after that.
The direction he has been taken could be alot better

Guess that what happen to people when greed be come overwhelming.

The end of the book was like another writer ended it for him.  Does
King have an problem finishing book or what??

Hope wonder for the next book I would wait three years for another
King book if he would write the way he use to.

Is he just going to end the dark tower series with some kind of 
stupid ending like the last book it will be a sad day  if so.

"Dreams are Doorways" Dark Tower Waste Land
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Koontz (was:  Anyone but Stephen King)
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:30:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul24.192436.13382@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> waiw@CS.Stanford.EDU (Wai Kit Wong) writes:
>
>	Anyone has anyone comment on V.C. Andrews?? I didn't see any discussion
>of him in the newsgroup so far, and I want to know more about him and his books.
>						Ken..

Ken, V.C. Andrews is a female writer. I don't know if you've ever heard of
"Flowers in the Attic", "Petals on the Wind", "If There Be Thorns" and those
books, but those are the first few of hers that I have read. They are about a
woman who abuses her children; I will not ruin it for you by saying more in
case you choose to read these books. Andrews has written many other books
(some of which are sequels to the above, others which are separate). Enjoy! 
			Laurel
____________________________________________________________________________
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laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu			 I bid you welcome."
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						     "Dracula"	  
					
						"There is nothing there
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						 there in the light---
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From: rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: SK's Dark Tower series
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:16:15 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Jul22.124840.19026@cs.tulane.edu> jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.172331.26885@udel.edu> lintz@buster.cis.udel.edu (Brian Lintz) writes:
>>
>>In the uncut version of _The Stand_, the events take place in the early
>>90's. If S.K. would stop writing all but _Dark Tower_, you could put
>>them all in one continuum. Everything set in the "normal" world takes
>>place before _The Stand_; _Eyes of the Dragon_ and _Dark Tower_ take
>>place after _The Stand_.
>>
>I saw it more as The Eyes of the Dragon being first, then the Stand,
>then the DT series. The Eyes is about a world that is just beginning.
>The Stand is about a world that is beginning to die, and DT is
>about a world that has "moved on".
>As for the Overlook being in The Stand, I had never thought about it,
>but I don't think it is so. Not because "It is burned" but because
>it is a bad place. The guy in the Stand (Sorry, I can't remember his
>name) (wait, was it Stu? I don't remember...) needed a place to stay
>so that he and Tom Cullen didn't freeze... or are you all talking about
>a different hotel in the Stand? OK I have now succeeded in thouroughly
>confusing myself... My point is that I don't think that The Overlook
>would have let them shelter themselves there.
	Ok, I always set the Eyes of the Dragon as pre DT, but post Stand
for two reasons:
	1> The geography of the EOTD world and Flagg's escape path fit the
DT landscape and apparent events (all referred to in flashback and explained
in IV and V).
	2> Flagg seems relatively inexperienced in the Stand.  He makes 
mistakes that I couldn't see the EOTD Flagg making. I assumed the EOTD Flagg
was more experienced than the Stand Flagg.

	Regarding the Overlook in the Stand, it was just speculation, but I
think that impression first came to me because of a statement that Stu Redman
felt uneasy in the otherwise harmless hotel.  Also the geographical location
seemed to fit (atop a mountain).  I remember Stu being eager to leave the 
place a.s.a.p.  It's been a while since I've read the Stand and this is all
speculation, so no flames please.  If I am incorrect, I would appreciate it
if someone gave us the info I'm referring to (if it exists and isn't just my
imagination).

	Also, all you DT fans, prepare for a very long wait on that cliffhanger
ending.  DT IV and V are supposed to be mostly flashback explaining how the
world moved on (source: oversized, illustrated Gunslinger).  I believe the 
fourth is called "The Wizard and (in?) Glass".  The name of Book Five is also
mentioned, but I can't recall it.

	Anyway, later all,
			Raythrax

>
>Misti
>-- 
>			   ||  "Some of it's magic...Some of it's tragic...
>Misti D. Jordan            ||   but I had a good life all the way..."
>jordan@cs.tulane.edu       ||                   -- Jimmy Buffett
>    "I want to be good... but being bad is so rewarding!" -- Morgana Duck
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 27 Jul 1992 13:45:41 EDT
From: Betty Johnson <BETTYJ@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: King's band???
 <1992Jul23.132800.19204@exu.ericsson.se> <36054@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>

King has sold WZON, but I have been told that some of the characters in
IT were based on employees of the station.  I know that I was able to
recognize some of the U. Maine English faculty in The Dark Half.
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From: kmrobert@nyx.cs.du.edu (Kevin Roberts)
Subject: Skipp and Spector...
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:35:29 GMT

	I found these two guys a year or to ago while rummaging through

a bargain books bin at the local Paper Cutter (It's a Buffalo thing).
I picked up _DeadLines_ for $1.50 and got a thrill which deserved to have
come from a hardcover! Unfortunately I heard that it was not published
as such. 
	The next thing I read from these guys was _The Scream_ which was
not quite as good but was still n above average horror novel. They have, I
believe, two other novels out, _The Tunnel_ may be one of them and I TOTALLY
forget the name of the others. Unfortunately I cannot find these in local 
bookstores.

	Question time...
	Has anyone seen these other two books, I'm not sure that they are
readily available and/or still in print.
	Does anyone know how good these other two books are? 
	Has anyone heard anything about their plan on to do a joint musical-
literature project? I believe that the goal was to write a soundtrack for a 
novel. I don't know exactly how this would work, what with different reading
speeds and stoping in the middle of chapters and what-not.

Hmmmm... I don't mean to start a splatterpunk debate here (although now that 
it is mentioned I think it is probably inevitable) but I would like some
more info on this duo...

and btw- I have nothing else to say.... (?)
I should have just delted that, I'm lazy.
kmr...
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From: fi@grebyn.com (Fiona Webster)
Subject: Re: Gerald's Game (was re: psychological)
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:07:03 GMT

Ken writes:
>I just saw "The Shining" again, and would like to say that this movie isn't
>near as bad as I at first thought. There are some EXTREMELY creepy moments.
>I won't get into the Jacks debate again, but I will say that Shelley Duvall
>(sp?) was also mis-cast. In my view, anyway. She's just too weak-willed, and
>not at all what I envisioned Wendy Torrance to be. But then again, I think
>ALL movies do that to me.

For what it's worth, my impression is that Shelley Duvall was not so
much mis-cast, as mis-directed.  Kubrick was so controlling of Duvall,
he's said to have bullied her into the spineless Wendy that he *wanted*
her to portray.  He used the hundreds-of-takes technique, for example,
to make her so bored and frustrated she'd do *anything* to satisfy his
view of what Wendy Torrance was like.  It was an artistic choice on
Kubrick's part.  I wish he'd contentrated his bullying on Jack
Nicholson, instead, so that the Jack Torrance character could have been
more real, more likeable, and less of a cartoon madman--but that's
just my opinion.  Whatever you say about _The_Shining_, you have to
see it as Stanley Kubrick's movie--in nearly every detail.

								--Fiona
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From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Stephen King books, soundtrack & magazine WANTED!
Organization: Finnish Academic and Research Network, FUNET
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:05:50 GMT

I want a hardback copy of Stephen King's second best novel called
Christine. The book must be in good shape. Then, I want the CD or LP
soundtrack of the very same movie, Christine. I mean the record with
'real' music by various artists and not the music by John Carpenter.
Then I want one thing more: The Magazine Of Fantasy & Science Fiction,
Dec. 1990 (the special Stephen King issue). Then, maybe, my friend
would like to have a copy of Firestarter in asbestos cover (26 copies
made). 

Replies with E-mail.

--
  Tapio Keihanen  \ rare DIO records wanted /    Holy Father - Holy Ghost
tapio@nic.funet.fi  \                     /  Who's the one who hurts you most?
From: z_mccullocca@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Who cares for Women Characters??
Date: 25 Jul 92 17:01:15 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Does not have to be real life but not out and out fantasy

Laurel I am not into FANTASY I tried and will try again to read the Earth Sea
trilogy by Ursula LeGuin.
I have tried to read Eye of Dragon 
I do not care for that type of writing.

Yes I have read the Waste Land, Tommyknocker(I liked it)

THere are very few books by king that I have not read just the few which I have
had problems with but I will try to finish.

Question does anyone know of any collections that have Kings stories in them 
Please Please email me if so.

The issue of women character I do not care about reading about women and
today's society still looks down on women Plus we must relative that king is
from the older days when women are thought of less.  

He holds us within his mind ---Waste Land
From: z_mccullocca@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Ray Bradbury
Date: 25 Jul 92 20:04:02 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

I have also been reading some short stories by

              RAY BRADBURY

The Pedestrian

 and


October 2026: THe Million-Year Picnic


I KNOW IT IS NOT HORROR BUT THOUGHT-PROVOKING
From: frantz@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: horror anthologies David Vaughn)
Date: 29 Jul 92 09:13:02 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA


In article <1992Jul28.074353.12991@rose.com>, david.vaughan@rose.com (david vaughan) writes:
> 
> Date Entered: 07-28-92 03:40
> F > I am interested in locating any compilations of short works by 
> F > various
> F > horror writers along the same vein as Dark Forces, which was edited by
> F > Kirby McCauley.
> F > 
> F > Andrea @ BVC
> F > 
> F >
> 
> Try Prime Evil, edited by Douglas Winter.  It's probably the best 
> collection to come along since McCauley's Dark Forces. 
> Authors include King, Barker (in a piece of subtle, restrained 
> horror that will surprise both his fans and his critics), 
> David Morrell (who wrote the collection's best piece IMHO), 
> Straub, and several others.  Stalkers is also supposed to be very 
> good, although I have not read it myself.
> 
> David Vaughan
> Hamilton, Ont., Canada
> david.vaughan@rose.com
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David, thank you for the recommendation, but I may have read it.  Can you 
help me out?  Is Prime Evil the anthology which houses the David Morrell 
story about the University of Iowa artist who emulates the dutch painter (
Van Gogh character) and goes the the dead painter's home to try and 
understand his work.  Ultimately the place drives him mad, too, because he 
sees the "truth"?  I can't remember the title of the story, but I've been 
searching for a copy of it ever since I took the damned book back to the 
library and can't for the life of me recall the name of the anthology it 
was in.  Also, what were the names of the Barker and Kings stories in Prime 
Evil?

Thanks,
Andrea @ BVC

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: patterjd@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeffrey D Patterson)
Subject: Re: Is Texas Chainsaw Massacre worth renting
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:41:03 GMT


In article <Brvq5p.AuM@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  
(Duner) writes:
>    I am contemplating on whether I should renTexas... (never saw it).
>    I haven't seen part 2 either, but I did see Leatherface part 3 and  
didn't
>    really cared for it.  This doesn't mean I don't care to see the first  
two
>    parts.  Should I rent them or not?
> 
>    Thanks
> 
> 
> -- 
> =====================================================
> = John Meseke      email-jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  =
> = "Some gals like to kiss my face.  Is it luck?"    =
> ==============================-Les Claypool==========

RENT IT!!!!
You can't call yourself a horror fan unless you see this movie!!!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: brea9430@mach4.wlu.ca (breadner kenneth cecil joseph u)
Subject: Re: Overview of King/Question?
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 06:35:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.204633.141@ccsvax.sfasu.edu> z_mccullocca@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>First I want to address if I should try to read:
>  The Stand
>I was unable to get myself to finish It or The Talisman or Eyes of The Dragon
>I do not want to waste my money on THe Stand if I will not understand it.
>
>Have yall read Cycle of the Werewolf???? I enjoyed it for being short.
>
>There is life after KING. nut the best book by king to me is The Dark Tower
>series (The Draw of the Three)

I very highly recommend THE STAND. I suggest you get the uncut version, as
there are several scenes I found integral to the development of the
characters and the plot contained therein. I must warn you, however, that
you should be aware of what you're getting into before you buy.

THE STAND is a very highly complex novel--complex and yet very readable. The
characters are arguably better than any found elsewhere in King, and the
book itself is based on an EXTREMELY unsettling notion.

The novel is set in the real world, which should help you out. While I liked
both THE TALISMAN and THE EYES OF THE DRAGON, I liked them for different
reasons--for some people, horror isn't quite so horrifying if it's removed
from our world. 

You should like THE STAND, if you allow it time to percolate. (I read it
through in one sitting (yes, the uncut version in eleven hours STRAIGHT) but
I am a King fanatic, and I've done this with IT and THE SHINING and THE
WASTELANDS...and...

BTW, if you liked THE DRAWING OF THE THREE, you'll love THE WASTELANDS.
Promise.

CYCLE wasn't bad at all...did you know it was originally planned as a simple
calendar, with Berni Wrightson doing the pictures? Then King kind of let it
grow a little.

Enjoy "playing the field". I personally do not like Saul, as I find his
novels generic, but Koontz isn't too shabby.

OF COURSE, THE ABOVE ARE ONLY MY OPINIONS, MEANT TO BE IGNORED.

Ken Breadner, maniac. brea9430@mach4.wlu.ca 

REDRUM REDRUM REDRUM REDRUM REDRUM REDRUM (Okay, Tony, that's enough)
From: damian+@pitt.edu (Liquid Cooled Spherical Imaging)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Robert Macammond (sp??)
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:46:05 GMT
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In article <92Jul23.024523.19111@acs.ucalgary.ca> kmjoffe@acs.ucalgary.ca (Kenneth M. Joffe) writes:
>
>Went to a used book store on the weekend and picked up a few
>Robert Macammond (sorry about the spelling....I know it doesn't
>look right) books.  1...Stinger    2...Swan Song   3...They
>Thirst   4...hmmm..forget the name, but its about some guy that
>changes into a wolf during the war.  I haven't read any of his
>stuff before.  Although I will eventually read these books, any
>comments on the author?? 

Robert McCammon is fucking brilliant.  His stories are *GREAT*!  SWAN SONG
is definitely an all-time fave.  THEY THIRST is an excellent vampire novel.
WOLF'S HOUR is one of the best action/horror stories ever.  The reason his
books are so good is because he has a FIRM grasp of "story".  He always
draws me in.  IMHO, Robert McCammon is my favorite horror novelist.  You will
not be disappointed.

Damian
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From: JMH131@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Looking for a good horror
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:24:26 GMT
Organization: Penn State University


 Try _Day of the Dead_.  Really gross.  Not REAL scary, though.  --John.
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: Re: Help me, King buffs!
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 13:13:12 EDT


	About this "90 short stories" bit...

	Not everything King writes is published in his books, people.
	Short story collections are only (usually) put together after
	enoght material has been published to _make_ one...which means
	King often publishes elsewhere.

	Some stories I know/have read:

	-- "Night of the Tiger"
	Originally published in "The Magazine of Fantasy and Science
	Fiction."  It can be found in a book called _Best Horror
	Stories from the Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction_.

	-- "The Night Flier"
	A vampire story in Douglas Winter's collection _Prime Evil_

	-- "Crouch End"
	A tribute to H.P. Lovecraft, published in Ramsey Campbell's
	anthology _New Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos_ and also found
	in Hartwell's _The Dark Descent_ collection.

	-- "You Know They've Got A Hell Of A Band"
	Published just a couple months ago in Jeff Gelb's paperback
	anthology _Shock Rock_.

	-- "It Grows On You"
	A short story about a sort-of haunted house, very Lovecraftish,
	published in the Summer, 1991 issue of "Weird Tales"
	

  There are more. He contributed to Skipp & Spector's _Book of the Dead_,
  and there were a couple of other stories published in another anthology.
  Plus other stuff.  I even have a story he wrote for USA Today about six
  years ago -- about the Red Sox. 

  You just gotta look for it.

  Darin Powell
  Syracuse Univeristy -- Ninth Circle of Hell
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Psychological
From: cole_d@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:38:44 GMT
Reply-To: cole_d@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <1992Jul19.155849.118@ccsvax.sfasu.edu>, z_mccullocca@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>I really enjoy King's books
>also
>Dean R Koontz  John Saul    Robin Cook  V.C. Andrews
>   There is life after King
>Please realize there are only so many king books to read.
>
>I am presently read Gerald's Game which has been one of the best 
>books since the Dark Tower series which is very good.
>
>Horror movies disappoint me because it is all blood
>
>         Psychological  HORROR is for me.
>But not fantasy
>
>"Does not have to be real life but not out and out fantasy"
>
>I am looking for another author (horror) to begin reading 
>any suggestions
>
>SMTP%"Z_MCCULLOCCA@SFASU.EDU"
>
>I rented an great video "Servant to Twilight" based on Dean R. Koontz's 
>Watchers and Whispers.
>King's movies do not justify the books at all.
>
>WHAT about "Sleepwalkers" by King?  Sorry I did not get to see 
>Lawnmower man yet it is coming on video at end of August.
>
>
What about Graham Masterton?
From: laurelp+@pitt.edu (Laurel A Povazan)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Gerald's Game (was re: psychological)
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:22:38 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Darin, do you really think Bobbi in "Tommy Knockers" was dependent on Gard?
Also, I didn't think Carrie was really dependent on anyone in "Carrie", but
she was definitely not independent: her upbringing screwed her up royally. 
			Laurel 
____________________________________________________________________________
Laurel A. Povazan			       	"I am Count Dracula;
laurelp@vms.cis.pitt.edu			 I bid you welcome."
						    -Count Dracula in
						     "Dracula"	  
					
						"There is nothing there
						 in the dark that isn't
						 there in the light---
						 except fear."
						     -Advertising line 
						      for "Cape Fear"
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