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From: vita@gloucester.dab.ge.com (Mark Vita)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: LBX Forbidden Planet on TNT
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:46:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GE Simulation & Control Systems

In article <4059@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.052630.5099@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:
><Tonight (9-11 wee am) TNT was broadcasting FORBIDDEN PLANET and 
><
><++IT WAS LETTERBOXED++    The ratio was 2.22:1 exactly the same as
><my Criterion laserdisc of this.
><
><I've seen LBX films on AMC, but this is the first time I've seen one
><on TNT.
>
>There have been other letterbox movies on TNT.
>
>The biggest problem I noticed right away, when scanning channels, is that the
>movie was time compressed and it was easily noticable.

Yes indeed; I caught FORBIDDEN PLANET on TNT this weekend, and it was
definitely time-compressed.  While it was playing I synched up my LD copy
to the broadcast in order to compare the two, and the LD kept falling
behind.  I assume they did this to make room for LeVar Burton's commentary.

BTW, the letterboxed image broadcast on TNT looked identical to the LD (I
have the recent MGM/UA pressing, not the earlier Criterion).  I betcha the
same video master was used (not surprising considering that Ted Turner owns
both TNT and MGM/UA).

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Mark Vita                                  vita@sunny.dab.ge.com
Advanced Engineering
GE Simulation and Control Systems
Daytona Beach, FL
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From: bates@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Andrew Bates)
Subject: Re: Batman Returns/Basic Instinct
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:03:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.151959.19015@bmerh85.bnr.ca> gihan@bnr.ca writes:
>In article <15025@mindlink.bc.ca>, Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike
>Quigley) writes:
>|>This might be old news, but a friend just faxed me a news release from the
>|>local paper. Batman Returns is out on Oct. 21, the tape will cost $25,
>and the
>|>LD, to be released the same day, will cost $40. No extra footage or other
>|>goodies with the LD>
>|>
>|>
>Does anyone know if Warner will use Pioneer or WEA to press the discs? 

    And will it be letterboxed?

        Andy Bates.

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From: gihan@bmerh472.BNR.CA (Gihan Karunaratne)
Subject: Clint Eastwood LD info needed
Reply-To: gihan@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:38:16 GMT

if anyone has seen/purchased the following LDs could you please comment
on picture and audio (digital/stereo/mono/surround) quality. Also are
they available in LBX format I would really
like to get these discs but am hesitant because the titles are fairly old.

1. FISTFUL OF DOLLARS
2. FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE
3. THE GOOD, THE BAD & THE UGLY
4. DIRTY HARRY
5. MAGNUM FORCE
6. THE ENFORCER
7. WHERE EAGLES DARE

All responses received with thanks

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Gihan R. Karunaratne    
Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1Y 4H7 
e-mail: gihan@BNR.CA (INTERNET)

"All flesh is grass"
                -- Isiah
Smoke a friend today.
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From: lthompsn@polari.online.com
Subject: Re: Paramount no chapters, was Re: Temple of Doom Caveat
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:17:03 GMT

In article <Bu4pr2.JDq@egsner.cirr.com> datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri) writes:
>>not chapter encoded.  This does not include the entire STAR TREK Original
>>Series as well as all of The Next Generation so far released - None of
>>which have chapters.
>
>Worse yet, the Star Trek discs (except for the recent color @i(The Cage))
>only have analog sound, and only a few are even CX-encoded.  Sigh.

Just to prevent some misunderstandings the new releases of the MOVIES
(the widescreen ones) have digital sound, but still no chapters.


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From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Surround Audio on L.A. Story
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:01:51 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep11.064647.9226@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> mburton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael E Burton) writes:
>
>   I recently rented the laser disk of "L.A. Story."  The disk sleeve
>indicated that the disk included "Dolby Surround" stereo.  The
>soundtrack was recorded in stereo, but it definitely was not
>"Surround."
>
I own it, and it's in Surround. I get distinct audio from the rear. 

=============================== Mike Gaines ============================
= WHAT is your name?............................Captain Jean-Luc Picard=
= WHAT is your quest?.............................I seek the Holy Grail=
= WHAT is the average velocity of a Bird of Prey?...Romulan or Klingon?=
=                        I.....I don't know AAAAAHHHHH!                =
========================== meg5184@hertz.njit.edu ======================
                            AOL: Graphix@AOL.COM
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From: jhc819@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (chung jason ho yong)
Subject: Re: Star Trek IV Director's cut
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:34:23 GMT

lennon@ac.dal.ca writes:

>Does anybody know the differences between the STIV:TVH directors cut and the
>original release? What I want to know is that is the director's cut worth
>buying?

The director's cut, is not a new cut at all.  The movie is the same w/ no
added scenes.  What is added though, is a intro by Nimoy and a behind the
scenes look on the making of STIV.

Most annoying, too.  It's at the beginning of the disc, but there's no chapter
stops.  You can't fast forward except by going ahead a certain amount of time.

Judge for yourself if you think the $10 extra is worth the costs.

Jason

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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Why is Terminator 1 mono?
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 05:18:06 GMT
Organization: WeasElectro Productions: Television/Movies/Comics

trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell) writes:

> I love having it on LD, but IMHO there's no excuse for mastering it in
> mono. 

It's mastered in mono because the movie was *made* in mono.  (Some of the
videotapes say "stereo" on the box, but it's a mistake.)

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

Frankie say War (hide yourself)
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From: u9155376@cs.uow.edu.au (Adam Barclay)
Subject: Re: Blade Runner Director's Cut
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 04:41:17 GMT

kheldar@prism.gatech.EDU (Garner) writes:

>I just came back from WorldCon in Orlando and they had a 12 minute
>presentation of Blade Runner.
[etc]

> - and much of the music will be different since Vangelis could not finish
>   the score back then and had just finished it last week.
With luck this we will see a CD release of this. 

(who do I petition? :-)

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From: gihan@bmers109.Berkeley.EDU (Gihan Karunaratne)
Subject: Re: "BASIC INSTINCT" - Release INFO!!!
Reply-To: gihan@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 17:26:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.001127.24063@wam.umd.edu>, dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep14.115623.15045@njitgw.njit.edu> meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman) writes:
|> >In article <scottg.082x@amiganet.chi.il.us> scottg@amiganet.chi.il.us (Scott Gittlitz) writes:
|> >>The Following is a letter from PIONEER LDCA, INC. on the laserdisc release of
|> >>"BASIC INSTINCT". 
|> >> 
|> >[stuff deleted]
|> >> 
|> >>     To supplement merchandising efforts, Pioneer will provide
|> >>retailers with an eight-inch trailer disc to generate in-store
|> >>excitement for this chilling, erotic thriller.
|> >> 
|> >I WANT THIS 8" DISC!!! If anyone can tell me where to get it, then let
|> >me know!!!!
|> 
|> ME TOO! ME TOO! ME TOO!
|>                                        -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
I called up LASER CRAZE today (15/10) to preoder the SPECIAL EDITION.
It's delayed til next Spring. I was also told the 8" Disc is not for consumers. 
-- 

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Gihan R. Karunaratne    
Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada K1Y 4H7 
e-mail: gihan@BNR.CA (INTERNET)

"All flesh is grass"
                -- Isiah
Smoke a friend today.
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From: wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Surround Audio on L.A. Story
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 12:59:16 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

mburton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael E Burton) writes:

-    I recently rented the laser disk of "L.A. Story."  The disk sleeve
- indicated that the disk included "Dolby Surround" stereo.  The
- soundtrack was recorded in stereo, but it definitely was not
- "Surround."
- 
-    Is this a known problem?  If so, is it possible to buy a version of
- the disk with genuine "Dolby Surround" audio?  Is it possible that the
- disk sleeve was mislabeled, and that the film wasn't recorded with
- surround encoding?
- 
-    One additional data bit: my laser player supports only the analog
- audio tracks.  This ought not to be a factor, since I get excellent
- surround sound from the analog tracks of other disks, but I thought I
- should mention it...
- 

Well, I taped L.A. Story off my local movie channel, and it was most 
definitely in surround. So it should be apparent on disc as well.

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From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: Spartacus!
Summary: Spartacus is finally out.
Keywords: laserdisc, spartacus
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:22:50 GMT


Well - the rumors of the imminent demise of Voyager made me put
$124 of my remaining funds into the purchase of the new Criterion
release of _Spartacus_.  (what the hell, I start a new job on
Monday...)

Just a quick review - There is a GREAT deal of difference in the
quality of the film stock throughout the movie.  At points (such
as the scene where Olivier makes his appearance on the grounds of
the Gladiator training grounds) the picture is as good as any I've
seen on any Laserdisc.  At other points (Most of the scenes on side
4 - the last 30 minutes of the movie) are severely distressing - the
top, bottom, and middle of the picture (the actual picture, not including
the "safe areas") are washed out.

I've only perused the alternate audio - the L analog contains alternate
soundtrack interspersed with descriptions of Dalton Trumbo's scene by
scene analysis of the film.  the R analog contains commentary by
Kirk Douglas, Peter Ustinov, novelist Howard Fast, producer Edward
Lewis, designer Saul Bass, and "restoration expert" Robert Harris.
I've only listened to a little of the R track, and it seems to be
more "relevant" than a great deal of the commentary on the Crit. James
Bond series (ie, I heard NO discussions of the sex lives of the movies
stars).

The supplements are better than most, but not as good as, say, _Blade
Runner_ (BTW, the directors cut of BR opened in DC today!) or _Aliens_.
It contains the obligatory trailer, lobby cards, actor bios, etc.  It
also contiains (most of side six) an interview with Peter Ustinov.
In addition to these, it contains a "propaganda" film about the 
Hollywood Ten (of which _Spartacus_ screenwriter Dalton Trumbo is
one), made in ca. 1950 as an attempt to gain support for the ten.

All in all, I'd have to say that _Spartacus_ is an excellent release,
but I can't understand why it's $124 - the movie itself is CLV (side
4 runs to 31 minutes) and the supplements are CAV (side 5 and 6) - 
the only reasons I can think of are:

1.  Voyager had to pay a higher than normal liscensing fee to cover
    the cost of restoration (although I would have thought that the
    theatrical release and the subsequent VHS release would have
    more than paid for it.

2.  Barbara Streisand.

On October 1st, Kirk Douglas is going to have a signing at a local
bookstore, and I plan to be there, _Spartacus_ under my arm.. (the
cover, btw, is a three-way gatefold with a non-glossy cover that 
should hold a ballpoint sig quite well.)  

-- 
gary cooper (not the dead one)   
         "We're losing oil pressure on the starboard engine"
    "On the plus side, all the pretty little lights on the instrument
                             panel are working"      - Wings 
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From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Criterion/Voyager in trouble? (was Re: Spartacus!)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:27:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

davidv@davidv.sco.COM (David Vangerov) writes:
>> Well - the rumors of the imminent demise of Voyager made me put
>> $124 of my remaining funds into the purchase of the new Criterion

> you wouldn't want to expand on this rumor would you? i've heard a bit
> about Barabara Streisand and Voyager fighting, but nothing concrete.

Voyager apparently went to production on "Prince of Tides" before her
holiness reviewed the check disc (if indeed they made one).  She disapproved
of the final product and reportedly requested some changes.  There is a
warehouse full of 'Tides and I would surmise that La Streisand declined to
either let Voyager ship it - or pay for the press run.  If the contractual
arrangement between BS and Voyager called for a final approval, I can't say
I blame her.  Several sources now report that the title is permanently
cancelled, which suggests that Voyager thinks BS is being unreasonable.

In 1991, Voyager had to withdraw the CAV editions of the "James Bond"
titles, due to retroactive disapproval by one of the rights holders.  The
CAV editions have not been re-produced, and the CLV's are missing the
offending commentary track.

In late 1990, Voyager went to production on the CAV "Close Encounters"
without first getting a check disk.  The "action point" codes were
incorrect, and they ended up exchanging every copy where someone complained
(and given that the title was highly interactive, that was probably most of
the copies).

I hope Voyager/Criterion survives the 'Tides episode.  A check disk costs a
few hundred bucks, and adds a few days to the cycle.  It is usually worth
it.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599

This article represents only the opinion[s] of its author, and is not an
official or unofficial position of, or statement by, the Hewlett-Packard
Company.  The text is provided for informational purposes only.  It is
supplied without warranty of any kind.
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Why is Terminator 1 mono?
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:25:17 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <trussell.715755990@cwis> trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell) writes:
<
<   Can someone in the know please explain to me why the *hell* Terminator
<1 was released on LD in *mono* only?  I love having it on LD, but IMHO
<there's no excuse for mastering it in mono.

Sure there is.  It was never done in stereo.  You can't get stereo from a
mono mix of the film.
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From: mkr@fid.morgan.com (Mike Rosenberg)
Subject: laserdisc of Beauty and the Beast (NOT)
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:35:46 GMT

on Oct 30th, Image/Disney will be releasing a letterboxed CAV disc of
Beauty and the Beast: The Work in Progress. I saw this film at the
New York Film Festival last year, about two months before the general
opening. It includes the complete soundtrack, and a mix of finished
animation, rough animation, and drawings. I don't remember the percentage
mix, but i would conservatively estimate that about 50% of the film was
completed animation. The final coloring was incomplete throughout the
film. So while much of the film seemed to be totally complete, we were
warned that most of the coloring was unsatisfactory and that we shouldn't
worry, it will all be redone for the real release.

So what does this all mean? Several things:

1) if you order this disc, be prepared for a real "work in progress",
   while quite interesting from a animation development, i doubt children
   will enjoy it.
2) the real laser disc release of BatB will probably not happen until late
   1993. this is because of disney's paranoia about bootleg tapes mastered from
   disc. (IMHO, this is ridiculous, especially with cheap authentic tapes
   available at your local retailers).
3) while this work in progress disc is letterboxed, there is a high probability
   that the real release will NOT be letterboxed.
4) it is unclear whether the various extra features offered on the work in progress
   disc (trailers, alternate takes, etc) will show up on the real release.

if you want to complain about the real release not being letterboxed, write to
Bill Mechanic
500 South Buena Vista Street
Burbank, CA 91521-0936

i am not sure where this person fits in, but a disney video management guy suggested
writting to this person about the letterboxing issue. he is not involved with release
schedules.

for my part, i'll probably buy the work in progress disc, and the video tape for
my 3 year old daughter.

mike rosenberg
mkr@fid.morgan.com
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: LBX Forbidden Planet on TNT
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:10:24 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL

In article <1992Sep11.052630.5099@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:
>Tonight (9-11 wee am) TNT was broadcasting FORBIDDEN PLANET and 

>++IT WAS LETTERBOXED++    The ratio was 2.22:1 exactly the same as
>my Criterion laserdisc of this.

>I've seen LBX films on AMC, but this is the first time I've seen one
>on TNT.

Well you better pay closer attention :-)

TNT has been doing this for a couple of years now at selected times.
One of their film festivals a couple of years ago, based on foreign
films and hosted by Roddy McDowel had 1 or 2 letterbox films.

They also broadcast "Love Me or Leave Me", the Ruth Etting Story with
Doris Day and Jimmy Cagney in letterbox.

AMC and TNT are the only ones I have noticed doing this so far.

-- 
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From: mckelvey@suite.com
Subject: Re: Newly-announced LDs (Warner Bros. Cartoons!  At Last!)
Reply-To: mckelvey@suite.com
Organization: Suite Software, Anaheim CA.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:16:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.063313.18734@tc.fluke.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff  
Meyer) writes:
> Finally -- FINALLY -- Warner Bros. has announced that they are releasing a
> set of the WB cartoons they own (the ones that MGM/UA do not own, i.e. those
> that were made in the latter part of 1948, and the years that followed) --
> the very best years of WB, with jewels like WHAT'S OPERA, DOC, etc.
      ---------------------
A matter of taste, this.  But good news nonetheless.

> Also, Carl Theodor Dreyer's silent Vampyr (I
> believe it's silent.  If it's the one I'm thinking of, it's one of the
> eeriest things I've ever seen.)
No, it's not silent.  But there is very little sound in it as I remember.   
Remember the scene where the guy is being carried to the graveyard, and he's in  
the coffin looking out through the little window in the top?  You hear the  
church bells tolling.  A classic.
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From: billj@b11.b11.ingr.com (Bill Jones)
Subject: Re: 50th Anniversary Casablanca Release
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 05:41:10 GMT

mfrost@sword.eng.pyramid.com (Mark Frost) writes:


>	Restored 'Casablanca' Marks 50th Anniversary

>MGM/UA home video has released two 50th-anniversary videocassette editions
>of the classic film "Casablanca" (1942).  Both are made from a newly
>restored and remastered print of the film.

>One, priced at $24.98, includes a documentary on the making of the film,
>titled, "You Must Remember This."  Also included is the film's original
>trailer.

>Does anyone else have more info about this?

I bought this. It also has a commemerative book as part of its cover. The
video quality is excellent, and it has a five-dollar rebate coupon. I
paid $16.00 at K-Mart.

Never thought I'd say this, <gulp>... Thank you Ted Turner.


>          -m-----------  Mark "Hoek" Frost    (mfrost@pyramid.com)
>        ---mmm---------  R&D Lab Manager Group
>      -----mmmmm-------  Pyramid Technology Corporation
>    -------mmmmmmm-----  3860 North First Street
>  ---------mmmmmmmmm---  San Jose, California 95134 (408) 428-8163

Bill Jones
billj@beowulf.b11.ingr.com

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From: datri@egsner.cirr.com (Anthony Datri)
Subject: Re: Paramount no chapters, was Re: Temple of Doom Caveat
Organization: Central Iowa (Model) Railroad, Dallas, Tx.
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 23:40:13 GMT

>not chapter encoded.  This does not include the entire STAR TREK Original
>Series as well as all of The Next Generation so far released - None of
>which have chapters.

Worse yet, the Star Trek discs (except for the recent color @i(The Cage))
only have analog sound, and only a few are even CX-encoded.  Sigh.
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From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: Why is Terminator 1 mono?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 05:06:30 GMT

   Can someone in the know please explain to me why the *hell* Terminator
1 was released on LD in *mono* only?  I love having it on LD, but IMHO
there's no excuse for mastering it in mono.

					Thanks,

--
    Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
One of the richest men in the world made his billions selling a toy "operating
system" that is more accurately described as a glorified bootstrap loader.
                                                  -- Phil Karn
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