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From: su0bufs@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Bath University Film Society)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: daleks
Date: 19 Dec 92 19:55:08 GMT
Organization: Students' Union, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik) writes:
>In <1992Dec16.210715.11593@vela.acs.oakland.edu> jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo) writes:
>
>>I'm not sure about Daleks being that heavy.
>
>>In the "Dalek invasion of earth", when the people broke control by the Doctor,
>>they attacked and defeated the Daleks like they were cardboard cutouts.  Heck
>>I even seen 2 people running with a dalek over thier heads.  
>
>Hmm...maybe they *were* cardboard cutouts!  :)
>
>[lots of stuff about what a dalek contains..]
>>I'm not too sure about Daleks being that impennatrable
>
>>In a scene from "the Chase", Frankenstein (a robot) destroyed one with no 
>>trouble at all.
>
>Oh, sure they're not impenetrable.  I don't think I ever said they were. 
>They seem pretty easy to kill despite the Dalekanium; time to get some
>better armor!
>

	Well, I have at home the Doctor Who Technical Manual 
	(erk. sounds very trekkie) and inside it contians about
	a dozoen pages on daleks.

	including ( Thou, this is from memory)
	A orthographic drawing of davros,(1 page)
	A story of the daleks (2 pages)
	3 orthographics drawing of a Mark I, a Mark V and a 
	"Mechanic" dalek
	a 3rd angle projection of a generic dalek
	and a cut away diagram of a dalek

	Plus some photos.

	From what I recall, the mutant kaled is encase in a spherical
	shell inside the centre of the dalek, this is above the large
	electrostatic propulsion unit( a large ball bearing which drives
	the dalek) and below teh daleks "battle computer".

	From what I remember the dalek looks pretty heavy. Being quite full
	inside and being incased in Dalekanium ( a substance it says to be of 
	the best armours ever created).

	Anyway. When I get the book from home after Xmas I can post  
	with some degree of accuracy and not from my very hasy memory.

	Dave Ford

PS look whats on after Christmas on BBC 2..

	GENISIS OF THE DALEKS (YEAH) 

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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: About that last Club's listings Posting
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 05:34:33 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Scrambling to get that listing posted since the 'death' of mts.ucs.uablerta.ca,
one can see the future problems that I am going to have.

Decesion: I think I will break the Listing up in National Blocs.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
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From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Alex "Mystic" Soto)
Subject: re: Daleks
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:26:59 GMT


Drewcifer replies:
>I don't know about the psycho kinetic energy movement of the Daleks.  In the
>beginning, the Daleks couldn't leave the city...
 

In the Pertwee Era, (Death of the Daleks? <- either Death of Day), When they
are trapped in the planet with the living city that absorbed energy, the 
Daleks could still move around - though their disruptors were non-functional.
When Sarah asks the Doctor why they could move, the Doctor responds, "They
use psycho kinetic energy for movement" <paraphrasing of course>.  Perhaps
they developed this as they went - so that they didn't have it when Hartnell
was around.  Which makes me wonder in Remembrance...how did it levitate, was
it that it boosted its psycho kinetic energy or some type of anti gravity
attachments to them, or what?

Is there any mention of the source even in non-canon sources?

        Mystic
(Alex.soto@analog.com)
From: vcz40@jester.usask.ca (Perry Testem)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: what was tv doing?!!
Date: 19 Dec 1992 20:57:58 GMT
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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: doctor who: the old adven
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:39:45 EST

Relegating the adventures of the Doctor to only the Doctor's future is
an odd thing for a fan of a time travel series to support.
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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Visitation
Date: 13 Dec 92 13:37:44 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

> 
> You're both right!  The filming order was Four To Doomsday, The Visitation,
> Castrovalva, Kinda, then the rest of the season in order.
> 
> This, along with the fact that there was no real script editor for the first
> two stories listed (Saward hadn't been hired yet), meant that both came out
> as turkeys IMHO.
> 
> 

Wrong!  

Here is the filming order for Season 19

5W Four to Doomsday
5X The Visitation
5Y Kinda
5Z Castrovalva
6A Black Orchid
6B Earthshock
6C Time-Flight

Steven.K.Manfred
From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: S.K.M. - I didn't say that!
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:03:23 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

In article <memo.808839@cix.compulink.co.uk>, jbyrne@cix.compulink.co.uk (Johnny Byrne) writes:
> Chris Bidmead was my script editor when I wrote Keeper Of Traken. 
> It's a completely false notion that as such he rewrote the second and 
> third drafts of my script.  It's one of those notions that get about
> and are seized upon by those who survive on the drip feed of hearsay. 
> Bad enough, you may think, but it plumbs the depths of absurdity when 
> the self professed experts on all things whovian, the knows alls who
> are invariably revealed to know nothing worth knowing - except what
> they've been told - then regurgitate fiction as absolute fact. 
> Steven Manfred is a typical example of the type I mean.
> 
> The changes Chris B. made to my script originated in the belated
> decision to include the Master in the tale.  At the time I was due to 
> leave for a holiday in Greece and I distinctly remember sending my
> final draft to him from Heathrow Airport!  Since I had discussed and
> agreed the changes, and since I would be incummunicado, the final
> tweaking of the script necessarily devolved on Chris - and a very
> fine job he made of it too.
> 
> Johnny Byrne (the real thing, btw - I can even display the
> identifying scars).


I can't recall ever saying "Chris Bidmead made the final changes" myself.
I do recall responding to something somebody else which did say that,
and I merely went along with what they said for the sake of the argument
we were having not about the authorship of "Traken" but about whether or
not it would be a good idea to make New Adventures about past Doctors
and companions.  

Steven.K.Manfred
From: rmp@crashnburn.Eng.Sun.COM (Richard Pottorff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Celery???
Date: 17 Dec 1992 18:54:46 GMT
Organization: Sun
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In article <domalley.724275775@unix1.tcd.ie> domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley)) writes:
In <liir5jINNivk@cash.cs.utexas.edu> jadair@cs.utexas.edu (John S. Adair) writes:

>Note: *=Peri's stuttering, whiney, bad American accent. :)
>Of course, maybe Peri has a beautiful, crisp, clear, sexy American accent
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>and the sound on my tape is just bad. ... Naaah. :)

I didn't know there was such a thing... ;-)

Daniel.
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Daniel, 

Anyone who quotes Douglas Adams in his sig. can't be all bad.  You've 
probably never heard a Midwestern woman, preferably from Nebraska talk,
obviously (or a California woman, for that matter, as all us whities are
from the Midwest :-) ).  Actually, I have a really hard time understanding
Irish and Scottish, so I wouldn't be surprised you had a hard time
understanding us.  Have you done 3 impossible things yet, today?

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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: zoe
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:10:56 EST

More completely, Zoe is the librarian of the parapsychology section of
the Wheel in Space.
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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Doc Who - Old Adventures etc.
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:00:57 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

In article <memo.808839@cix.compulink.co.uk>, jbyrne@cix.compulink.co.uk (Johnny Byrne) writes:
> Chris Bidmead was my script editor when I wrote Keeper Of Traken. 
> It's a completely false notion that as such he rewrote the second and 
> third drafts of my script.  It's one of those notions that get about
> and are seized upon by those who survive on the drip feed of hearsay. 
> Bad enough, you may think, but it plumbs the depths of absurdity when 
> the self professed experts on all things whovian, the knows alls who
> are invariably revealed to know nothing worth knowing - except what
> they've been told - then regurgitate fiction as absolute fact. 
> Steven Manfred is a typical example of the type I mean.
> 

Dear Mr Byrne,
	You're placing too much weight on something I said earlier again,
*in response* to something someone else said.  Another person entirely made
the suggestion that there were major changes to "The Keeper of Traken"
in order to support a discussion/argument we were having over whether
or not older Doctors should be written about in the New Adventures novels.
I merely went along with what he had said for the sake of the argument.
I didn't really know one way or the other what kind of changes had been
made to "Keeper," nor did I claim to.  
	For the record, I adore "The Keeper of Traken."

Steven.K.Manfred


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From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Subject: Re: ST: TNG (critiques) vs Dr. Who
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:20:30 GMT

In <rawdon.724436879@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:

>[Followups to rec.arts.drwho]

>In "Remembrance Of The Daleks" they can "fly" up stairs and such.  It looks
>pretty silly, though. :-)

No it doesn't!
Sure impressed me when I saw it... ;-)

>>(No flames, please.  There was a lot of good stuff in Dr. Who.  I
>>always had trouble suspending my disbelief in the Daleks, though.)

>Jon Pertwee agreed with you.  (Which is why I always found it ironic that his
>series had two or three Daleks stories and NO Cybermen stories.)
            ^^^^^^^^^^^^
4 actually...
Day of the Daleks, Planet of the Daleks, Death to the Daleks and
Frontier in Space.

And I always wondered why JP never had to face the Cybermen (until
The Five Doctors, that is...)

Daniel.
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From: neal@riemann.math.mun.ca (Neal Crossan)
Subject: Re: what was ytv doing?!!
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:32:39 GMT

"dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com> writes:

> I just saw the first episode of "The Pyramids of Mars" on YTV. What I
>want to know is: WHAT THE HECK WAS THAT ALL ABOUT??!!

> The episode started with the now usual credits, but right after there
>was this *intrusion*. There was this sort of promo put in between the
>opening credits and the real story. However, that was not all. At the
>end of the episode they again inserted some sort promo between the last
>scene (cliff-hanger) and the end credits. What's going on here?!!!

   Years ago when they first started trying to sell Dr. Who in America 
they would start and end each 25 minute episode with these promos.  They were
hosted by Howard Da Silva and the idea was to try and explain the show
to an audience that wasn't familiar with it.  The geniuses at BBC Enterprises
haven't bothered to make new tapes so as a result the promos still appear
after all these years.  This only affects the first few Tom Baker seasons
since they were the ones originally sold.

> One other note: I've been watching YTV's showing of DW the past couple
>of nights (I usually just pull a tape these days). I cannot believe how
>much time YTV edits off. For example, last night I noticed the last
>episode of "Planet of Evil" ran 24 - 25 minutes. YTV must have chopped
>at least 3 - 4 minutes out!! (commercials) And they finished 5 minutes
>before the hour!!! What's going here?!!!

   YTV don't make the cuts.  BBC Enterprises offer the show in
the movie format, the complete episode format and an edited version 
for commercial tv.


>Amazed,
>DaleC.

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From: timelord@cs.mcgill.ca (Jeffrey JACOBS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Who movies
Summary: Ooops.  NOT!
Keywords: Excellent!
Date: 12 Dec 92 18:59:55 GMT
Organization: The Query Master Syndicate.

In article <1992Dec9.170659.1007@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides) writes:
>I recently found out that there were two Doctor Who movies made - one in 1965, 
>Something about the Daleks, then a sequel in '66, retitled invasion 2150 or 
>something like that.
>
>Thanks, Elena

No, I think you're confused.  You're thinking of two Doctor Who
movies, right?  Well, those were in the Late '80s, and were called
Bill 'n Ted's Excellent Adventure, and Bill 'n Ted's Bogus Journey!
At least, I thought they were Doctor Who movies, they had the TARDIS,
didn't they?  :{) :{) :{)

Seriously, I have have those movies on vidio, and can only confirm the
reviews they've gotten so far on the net.  I think Bill 'n Ted's had
more to do with Doctor Who anyway!
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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: minor milestone
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 07:08:04 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:

-
- Anyway, my question -- has anyone else responded to this?  Considering
- the outcry among certain religious types when "Ghost Light" supported
- evolution and "Curse of Fenric" showed Christian faith as fallible in
- the face of evil, I'm surprised the homophobes haven't come up in arms
- yet.  Have they?

  Being the more grass-roots Christian, yes Warren and Patricia, you are both
right when it comes to personally knowing me on this, There are concerns that
are tossed up in fiore(sp?).
  "GhostLight", what can I say, other than it was Ace's personal challenge.
Anyway, it does prove a point.  Anytime man feels that something has failed, he
wants to destroy.  Recall that "Time-Flight", "Image of the Fendahl", and
 "City of Death" are quasi-similar in theme, and please don't accuse me of
speaking Yadallean.
  Unusual of me these days, but I will reiterate the fact that Wainwright is a
claasic example of anyone who loses faith, in this cases, British bombs over
Germany, and on the whole rejected Christianity.  In the case of I believe
whatever I can under the given circumstances and if it doesn't work out, I
reject all.  I believe that what Briggs MAY have been trying to see that s/he
who
believe is stronger that s/he  who doesn't.  Look at Sorin or from "The
Romans" Tavius.  I wonder if a DW writer could confirm this.

All for now,

Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
 (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
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From: jbyrne@cix.compulink.co.uk (Johnny Byrne)
Subject: Re: Doc Who - Old Adventures etc.
Reply-To: jbyrne@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:53:00 +0000

Chris Bidmead was my script editor when I wrote Keeper Of Traken. 
It's a completely false notion that as such he rewrote the second and 
third drafts of my script.  It's one of those notions that get about
and are seized upon by those who survive on the drip feed of hearsay. 
Bad enough, you may think, but it plumbs the depths of absurdity when 
the self professed experts on all things whovian, the knows alls who
are invariably revealed to know nothing worth knowing - except what
they've been told - then regurgitate fiction as absolute fact. 
Steven Manfred is a typical example of the type I mean.

The changes Chris B. made to my script originated in the belated
decision to include the Master in the tale.  At the time I was due to 
leave for a holiday in Greece and I distinctly remember sending my
final draft to him from Heathrow Airport!  Since I had discussed and
agreed the changes, and since I would be incummunicado, the final
tweaking of the script necessarily devolved on Chris - and a very
fine job he made of it too.

Johnny Byrne (the real thing, btw - I can even display the
identifying scars).
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From: sarah@admiral.uucp (Sarah Jane Attridge)
Subject: Celery
Reply-To: sarah@admiral.uucp (Sarah Jane Attridge)
Organization: The Grid/Waffle BBS, 203-661-2873, -1279, -0450, -2967
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:43:59 GMT

The reason he gave was, "It's a powerful restorative" or something like 
that....I seem to remember him waving it under Peri`s nose towards the 
end of "Caves of Androzani"...
Sarah Jane Attridge

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From: cole@lea.csc.ncsu.edu (Robert Cole)
Subject: Re: Fenric novelization (small spoilers) (was: Re: Nightshade endin
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:49:21 GMT

Liz%Eng%Banyan@magnolia.banyan.com writes:

>Possible small spoilers for the novelization (not the episode) of "The 
>Curse of Fenric":



>tp902821@pine.canberra.edu.au (Scott McLauchlan) says:
>>(BTW, in the
>>novelisation of "The Curse of Fenric" Ace leaves the Doctor to live in
>>eighteenth or nineteenth century France). 

>??  Is this perhaps another draft of the novel I'm unfamiliar with?  I
>don't remember this.  (Which doesn't mean anything; my brain always
>becomes toast around the holidays. ;-))

>Small spoilers for the beginning of _Love and War_, and maybe some little
>spoilers for the end of _Nightshade_ as well:



>No, it's not remarked on at all.  I read _L&W_ first, so I was REALLY
>thrown by the precipitous ending of _Nightshade_.  Otherwise, though,
>not a bad book; but _L&W_, in spite of dropping that little plot point,
>is a better one.

>Liz
>lizb@banyan.com

I haven't read _Nightshade_, but have read _Love And War_.  I seem to
recall that the "powers that be" decided to give Ace a temporary leave
from the New Adventure series.  They intend to bring her back (at least
that is my understanding).  Bernie's question to the Doctor about Ace no
longer neading the jacket and his reply of "someday she will" and his
subsequent keeping of the jacket seem to leave open Ace's possible
return.

Robert Cole
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From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Subject: Re: Opinions: best and worst
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:47:08 GMT

In <1992Dec5.143346.1972@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> paige@csri.toronto.edu (The Woodsman) writes:
>   Best:

>   Hartnell: The Daleks (top-notch stuff, just ahead of The Time Meddler
>             and the Celestial Toymaker in my book)

"The Daleks" was enough to dissuade me (so far) from seeing any other Hartnell
episodes.  It was SOOOOOO poorly directed, I couldn't even sit through it!

>   Troughton: Tomb of the Cybermen (I'd say Evil of the Daleks but it's
>              been so long ...)

I've never seen a Troughton episode.

>   Pertwee: The Daemons (Inferno? *Inferno*? Too goofy!)

And "The Daemons" wasn't? :-)

I think I'd probably pick "Planet Of Spiders" as my favorite Pertwee.

>   Baker: Too difficult: Ark in Space/Genesis of the Daleks/Pyramids of Mars.

Yeah, this is a tough one.  The whole first season is great, for instance.
But my favorites are probably "Genesis", "Pyramids", "The Deadly Assassin",
"City Of Death", and "Logopolis".  Actually, there are a lot of great Leela
ones, too: "Talons Of Weng-Chiang", "Horror Of Fang Rock", "Face Of Evil",
etc. etc.

>   Davison: Caves of Androzani

*Gack*  (Sorry, I've always hated that episode.)  Without question, my
favorite Davison (and probably my favorite DW overall, but don't hold me to it
under pressure :-) is "Mawdryn Undead".

>   C. Baker: Revelation of the Daleks

There are no good Colin Baker stories. :-)  Actually, "Mark of The Rani" is
decent.

>   McCoy: Rememberance of the Daleks.

"Survival", for me.  No competition.  "Battlefield" a distant second.

>   Worst: 

>   Baker: Meglos.

Aww, it wasn't *that* bad.  I guess I'd pick either "The Ribos Operation" or
"The Creature In The Pit" (is that the title?  Wow, it's been a long time) as
my least favorites.

>   Davison: Warriors of the Deep (sorry, Mr. Byrne!)

That's a pretty bad one, I agree.  I might pick "Androzani" as my least
favoirite Davison, though.

>   C. Baker: Twin Dilemma

But there are SOOOOO many to choose from!  "Twin Dilemma" is abysmal, true.
Runner-up would be the final episode of "Trial Of A Time Lord".

>   McCoy: Time and the Rani

"The Happiness Patrol" gets the razz from me.  This just might be the worst DW
episode I've ever seen.

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