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From: dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: Harpoons (and At-Ats)
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:55:32 GMT
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In article <1993Jan21.114553.2763@vax1.mankato.msus.edu>, wookiee@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes...
>In article <C17L89.50t@mach1.wlu.ca>, lars4752@mach1.wlu.ca (Bradley Larsen u) writes:
>> The Rebel Alliance must have run into the AT-AT's before.  Recall from the
>> movie when the trench officer uses his binoculars??? to spot the oncoming
>> Walkerrs? His reply to the base is something like "We spotted Imperial
>> walkers." 
> 
>I don't see that as any proof that the rebel have run into them before, just
>another character stating the obvious, ...

Well, the point made by someone else was that the Rebel said ONLY that he
had spotted Imperial walkers, he didn't explain what it was he saw.  Thus
he assumed that whoever was on the other end knew what an Imperial walker
was.  This may not imply anything more than that pictures of Imperial
walkers, with that name, are on Rebel training tapes or some such, but
obviously there is some sort of passing familiarity, at least, with these
weapons in the Rebellion.

--Gallandro

    "Take it easy, kid.  It's only a movie."   --Ham Salad, "Hardware Wars"
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: The other Yoda spoke of
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:41:34 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <16B5CCE27.MHART00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> mason writes:
>ESB:     Ben:     That boy is our last hope.
>         Yoda:    No.  There is another ...
> 
>Jedi:    Yoda:    There - is - another - Sky - walker - *
>         Luke:    (to Ben)  Yoda spoke of another ...
>         Ben:     The other Yoda spoke of was your twin sister.
> 
>These two exchanges are not necessarily about the same person.  The
>Jedi dialog concerns Leia.  Anyone who wants to argue this should
>collect his ego at the desk on his way out.  The Empire dialog is
>much more ambiguous.  It is generally accepted that Yoda was thinking
>of Leia here, too.  It has been suggested, however, that Yoda may
>have been referring to someone else -- Wedge, or even Han Solo.
> 
>I don't think so.  Yoda and Ben were concerned with more than reuniting
>long-lost siblings.  They were working to bring about the fall of the
>Empire, and of the Emperor in particular.  They were also working to
>restore the Jedi Knights to their former glory.  Luke needed to know
>who the original "other" was to accomplish these goals -- the identity
>of his sister, although important, was incidental to the greater
>purpose.

While I still agree that the "other" in TESB is Leia, there is still one
thing that bothers me about this:  If Ben was the one who hid Luke and
Leia, why did Ben say that Luke was their last hope?  Why didn't he
consider Leia?  Did Yoda realize that Leia could help them if Luke
failed, while Ben didn't?  If so, why didn't Ben think this?

(Okay, I know the real reason is that Lucas hadn't decided that Leia
would be Luke's sister until they were making RotJ, but I'm looking
for a good reason that fits in with the movies.)

-- 
Brian Perler			bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu
"I wanna decide who lives and who dies"
	-Crow T. Robot, "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians," MST3K
From: heerdege@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Juergen Heerdegen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: RotJ Figures for sale!
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:54:08 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I have the following figures for sale at this time : 

Han Solo (Trenchcoat) $17
Princess Leia (Combat Poncho) $15

Power of the Force
------------------
EV9D9 $27
A-Wing Pilot $25

The figures are all unopened on cards.  The little tabs for hanging them on 
racks are generally punched out (to various degrees) on a few of them.  The
plastic has also started to yellow a bit.  The cards show very very minor 
stress marks.

If anyone is at all interested, email :
heerdege@gandalf.rutger.edu

-juergen
From: djwalton@burrito.engr.ucdavis.edu (David J Walton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Really nagging question
Date: 26 Jan 93 06:28:53 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering - University of California - Davis

In article <93024.021737MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu> MWEINTR@auvm.american.edu writes:
>Why is Artoo always black and white in space?!?!?!?!?
>
>In all three movies, whenever he is shown in Luke's X-Wing, his blue panels
>turn a sorta-greyish tint, DEFINITELY not blue...
>
>I'm sure there's a simple answer, but I don't know...
>

Yup, it's a simple answer, all right.
His blue panels are too close to the color of the blue-screen he is filmed
against for the space shots.  If they left 'em blue, you'd see stars instead
of panels.  Make sense?

Dave
From: julie@skatter.usask.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: How would the story have changed...
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:35:03 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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From article <4u2oXB3w166w@hogbbs.scol.pa.us>, by crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble):
> How do you think (you being the readers of this conference) the Star Wars 
> story would have differed if Lucas had gone through with an early idea 
> by making Luke *female*?

	I remember an interview with the screenwriter for ET the Extra
Terrestrial.  I seem to recall that she said that she made Elliot a boy
because that way both girls and boys could identify with him.  I agreed
with this, because when I was a little girl, I pretended to be Luke
Skywalker (and sometimes Princess Leia too, but not as much).  But
because of the incresed pressure on boys to be masculine, I think it
would have been more difficult for them to pretend to be a female Luke,
than for girls to pretend to be a male Luke.  It's too bad, but I think
it's true.  



It's not that I like the Empire.  
I hate it, but there's nothing 				Jules
I can do about it right now! 
	- Luke Skywalker.
--
From: quantum@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Blake Matthews)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Harrison Ford Movies
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:30:25 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

Does anybody know the complete list of movies Harrison Ford starred in?

You'll find out I'm full of surprises.
                                        Luke Skywalker to Darth Vader
                                        EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
From: lyon@egr.msu.edu (Scott Lyon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: SW drinking game request
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:06:24 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
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Originator: lyon@frith.egr.msu.edu

In article <1993Jan27.195938.21183@Virginia.EDU> cac2g@Virginia.EDU ("Void Where
 Prohibited") writes:
>A while back a Star Wars drinking game was posted to this
>group.  If you still have a copy, please repost it here or send it to me
>personally at cac2g@UVA.pcmail.Virginia.EDU.  Thanks in
>advance...
>
>                Casey Cosgrove
>                Owner/Operator, The E-Mail Hut
>
>I don't believe in sigs...

I too would like to see a copy ofthe Star Wars drinking game, so if someone
could send it email to lyon@egr.msu.edu it'd be greatly appreciated!
-- 
-Scott Lyon
"May the Force be with us..."
From: lyon@egr.msu.edu (Scott Lyon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: x-wings?????? why?????
Date: 24 Jan 93 07:08:14 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
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Originator: lyon@frith.egr.msu.edu

In article <93023.224359GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>You're wrong on one of your points though.  Ships can be and are tracked while
>in hyperspace.  Vader and Tarkin track the Millenium Falcon to the Yavin base
>during it's jaunt through hyperspace with the newly rescued Princess Leia.
>
>                                                 --Eric

Not really. To quote the film (Sticking to ANH, for all who care), when asked
whether the ship is being tracked Han says "Not this ship, sister.".

If you relate this to the quote(from the novelization) about hyperspace, Han
says, "Can't nobody track another ship accurately at supraligight speeds.", you
realize that the reason the base on Yavin was found WASN'T because of the
trajectory of the Falcon. It was the homing beacon.

To quote "Are you sure the homing beacon is secured aboard their ship. I'm
taking an awful risk, Vader"(quoted by Tarkin in the film).

Both of these arguements should prove that the Falcon was *NOT* "traced" back
to the fourth moon of Yavin.
-- 
-Scott Lyon
"May the Force be with us..."
Organization: The Pennylvania State University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:35:15 EST
From: Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: NEW MOVIES - All News Groupies Please Read

In article <1993Jan20.193901.983@cs.unca.edu>, mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott
McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) says:
>
>Steve Husty (husty@cerc.wvu.wvnet.edu) wrote:
>
>:       If you are new to this news group, there will be new movies, in the
>:       not too distant future.  The names, actors, details, etc. are still
>:       unknown.  That is it.
>
>Well, the new movie has been out for a couple of months -- where has
>everyone been?!

Hey, I saw it!  _Dogmeat Astronomers_ was a pretty tasteless flick, for
a Lucas picture.  I especially despised the scene where Anakin takes
ot the grapefruit people of Kandorias.  They were a peaceful type, but
c'est la vie!

---
"I don't believe it!"  "That is why you fail."
  _____)           ______        _)       _)  EAO102@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
                               __       __    OPORTO@CORVETTE.ECE.PSU.EDU
______    ______            ___      ___      Ernie "SHOKK" Oporto
                               __       __    Computer Lab Attendant
(_______ _      _ ________ _     _) _     _)  for PSU's CAC Department
From: hofle@cs.utexas.edu (Andrew Christopher Hofle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Quotes Poll
Date: 22 Jan 1993 19:41:37 -0600
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: usa
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Hey everyone!  Just thought of something the other day --
It would be pretty cool to have some sort of poll on this newsgroup
where everyone sends in their favorite quote, comeback, putdown or
smart-ass remark from the Trilogy (only one per user) and then
compile the list after X days and declare the winners. (Those quotes
receiving the most votes).  

ex.  "Laugh it up fuzzball!" -- Han -- TESB

I was going to offer to be the person responsible for taking in all the 
votes, but I don't think I'm going to have the time this semester.
So if anyone out there would be willing to be the organizer (have the
votes e-mailed to you and then count the frequency of each quote), 
this should be interesting.

Just a thought.

Andy
From: gandalf@wpi.WPI.EDU (James Michael Sambrook)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: More SW observations
Date: 26 Jan 1993 14:17:41 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <93025.174633GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Yeah, I even heard the "auuuugh" in _Howard_the_Duck_!
>
>                                                 --Eric

Was it said in the movie, or by the people in the audience who had finally
realized that they had wasted $6.00 to see one of the worst movies of the 
decade?  8^D

*******************************************************************************
*                                                                             *
*              James Michael Sambrook, Aerospace AND Nuclear Engineer         *
*                  "Are you nuts?"           "Nope, just insane!"             *
*                                                                             *
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From: mmartin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew Wayne Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: New movie or just books
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:49:42 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1993Jan26.114317.1@acad2.alaska.edu> assaf@acad2.alaska.edu writes:
>In article <93019.132420BXW1@psuvm.psu.edu>, <BXW1@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>> 
>	In an interview with the author done through Waldenbook's Hailing
>Frequency he said he was given permission to do the Episode 7,8, and 9.
>Lucas has been planning to release the prequel to the original.
>
>SAF

	Once again, we must dismiss these rumors. ZAHN'S NOVELS ARE NOT, I
REPEAT ARE NOT EPISODES 7,8,9.  They are merely Zahn's view of what takes
place between ROTJ and Episode 7.  Lucas has stated that he reserves the
right to disregard or contradict anything in these books or any other material
which covers the period after ROTJ.  
	In regards to new movies, for the 100th time, check out Lucasfilm
Fan Club Magazine #17.  In it, there is an interview with Lucas in which
he states there will be 3 new movies between 1995-2000.  They will be 
episodes 1-3, and cover the young adventures of Obi Wan Kenobi and Anakin
Skywalker  (there is no mention of the Clone Wars, only that the Jedi and the
Empire were around long before episode 1 takes place.)  To get a hold of the
Magazine, join the Lucasfilm fan club (address in FAQ which can be gotten from
ftp wpi.wpi.edu) its only $10.
From: flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: x-wings??????   why?????
Date: 24 Jan 93 02:27:35 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1jot2qINNeeh@oak8.doc.ic.ac.uk> kw@doc.ic.ac.uk (K. Wong) writes:
>	Well, 1st post to this newsgroup. What's this buisness about H-Space
>laws? H-Space gas laws? Just how does this H-Space work? Is it kinda like 
>warp space, where 2 points in space are "warped" so as to be almost next to
>each other, and the ship just skips across? Or is it a seperate dimension,
>where Einsteinian laws don't apply, and speed of light is greater than c?

		HOW HYPERSPACE WORKS
		--------------------

1. You get the coordinates from the nav computer.
2. You let it make some calculations.
3. You strap yourself in.
4. You pull a lever.
5. You get somewhere really fast.

The movies don't tell us much:
1. There is a hyperdrive motivator.  
2. There is a negative power coupling.  
3. Large celestial bodies have an effect on things in hyperspace but
   small ones don't. (you can't fly through a star or bounce too close
   to a supernova, but if you come out of hyperspace into a meteor shower,
   that isn't a problem - at least while you're in hyperspace)
4. You can't track a ship in hyperspace.
5. You accelerate to hyperspace (startrails).
6. Traveling in hyperspace looks nothing like real space.

Did I miss anything?

I'm just happy to accept Star Wars as a space fantasy.  It was never 
intended as science fiction.  You could probably get an explanation 
from a game or other fiction, but until all of the movies are out,
any of this is likely to be contradicted at any time.  

-Bill 
--
     -= Bill.McGonigle@Dartmouth.edu =-      |  Fighters!   |   |  /   \  |   |
Do you ever get the feeling that the story's |  Coming in   |=O=|  |=O=|  |=O=|
too damn real, and in the present tense? -JT | point three! |   |  \   /  |   |
Snail Mail: HB 2660, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH, 03755-4015. (603) 640-5780
From: crunch@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Travis Prebble)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Darth Vadar
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:52:04 EST
Organization: The Heart of Gold BBS, Lemont PA

kw@doc.ic.ac.uk (K. Wong) writes:

> In article <1993Jan20.221231.12944@unocal.com> stsslxs@st.unocal.com (Luis Sa
> >I heard that DARTH is an anagram for DARK LORD OF HOTH. Can anyone else conf
> >                                     ^^^            ^^
> >dispute this? 
> >
> 
> 	Dark Lord of Hoth? Isn't that the Dark Lord Of Seth? You'd think 
> Darth would kinda notice if the rebels were parked round his back door.. 
> 
> =============================================================================
> " There's nothing dumber in the world than a man with an erection. "
> 				- Borric, Prince of the Blood.
> 
> Hadoken! -Ken

You're not on a roll today, are you? :)  First, AT-AT was wrong and now 
Darth Vader is the Lord of some guy named Seth??  Try Sith. :D


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From: haywire@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (the Insane One)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Imperial Fleet
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:43:09 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1993Jan24.145518@cogs.sussex.ac.uk> richs@cogs.sussex.ac.uk (Richard Salter) writes:

>It could move couldn't it? Well, it was in the fleet then. I wonder whether
>the uncompleted one in TotJ could move, or would have been able to once 
>completed?

If it couldnt move then what good would it have been to destroy
planets....It needs to get there first...

haywire
From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Harpoons (and At-Ats)
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:20:26 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia


	Yes, the term Rebel Alliance is used early on:

Darth (to Leia): You are part of the Rebel Alliance and a
traitor.  Take her away!

						-Quinn
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From: uenf@pool.sunyit.edu (Eric Franks)
Subject: Star Wars Figures
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Distribution: na,sunyit
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:31:07 GMT

heerdege@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Juergen Heerdegen)
<Jan.22.19.54.07.1993.7495@gandalf.rutgers.edu>  writes:

>I have the following figures for sale at this time : 
>
>Han Solo (Trenchcoat) $17
>Princess Leia (Combat Poncho) $15
>
>Power of the Force
>------------------
>EV9D9 $27
>A-Wing Pilot $25
>
>The figures are all unopened on cards.  The little tabs for hanging them on 
>racks are generally punched out (to various degrees) on a few of them.  The
>plastic has also started to yellow a bit.  The cards show very very minor 
>stress marks.
>
>If anyone is at all interested, email :
>heerdege@gandalf.rutger.edu
>
>-juergen

 I would be interested in purchasing the Han Solo and Princess Leia 
figures from you.  I E-mailed you, but I wasn't able to access your
node.  If you are still interested in selling, contact me through this
newsgroup or try E-mail. Thanks in advance.

___________________________________________________________________________
Eric Franks           | uenf@sunyit.edu
404 Jefferson Ave     | (315) 797-3796
Utica, NY 13501       |
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From: quantum@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Blake Matthews)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Harrison Ford Movies
Date: 27 Jan 93 04:23:49 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

Does anybody know the complete list of movies Harrison Ford has been in? 
Please E-Mail me.  Thanks. Quantum.

You'll find out I'm full of surprises.
                                        Luke Skywalker to Darth Vader
                                        EMPIRE STRIKES BACK
From: kw@doc.ic.ac.uk (K. Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Darth Vadar
Date: 26 Jan 1993 09:41:00 -0000
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak8.doc.ic.ac.uk

In article <1993Jan20.221231.12944@unocal.com> stsslxs@st.unocal.com (Luis Sandoval) writes:
>I heard that DARTH is an anagram for DARK LORD OF HOTH. Can anyone else confirm/
>                                     ^^^            ^^
>dispute this? 
>

	Dark Lord of Hoth? Isn't that the Dark Lord Of Seth? You'd think 
Darth would kinda notice if the rebels were parked round his back door.. 

==============================================================================
" There's nothing dumber in the world than a man with an erection. "
				- Borric, Prince of the Blood.

Hadoken! -Ken
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: hsc5505@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Missing scene in EMPIRE?
Reply-To: hsc5505@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 19:57:37 GMT

The extra scenes with the wampas did appear in the earlyer drafts of the script of ESB. I have the fourth edition and it's there. Also the script goes alot further into Lukes training. 
				Dark Jedi	
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: coop2d11@bnr.ca (Ken Goldenberg)
Subject: Re: Harrison Ford Movies
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:48:39 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.

quantum@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Blake Matthews) writes:
>Does anybody know the complete list of movies Harrison Ford has been in? 

Seeing this post in r.a.sf.sw reminds me of possibly the funniest thing I've 
ever overheard (saying quite a bit) in a BlockBuster video store:

	"Harrison Ford was in Star Wars?"


			-Ken
-- 
Ken Goldenberg                             Co-op student for 2D11 
coop2d11@bnr.ca                            Bell-Northern Research
_________________________________________________________________
Disclaimer: My opinions should not be taken as those of BNR or NT
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: Harpoons (and At-Ats)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:01:48 GMT


	There are definitely *five* AT-AT's, but all five can
only be seen in the first shot, and only if the sides of the
picture aren't cut off by the video tape.
						-Quinn
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