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From: R_WINES@TRZ860 (Rodney Wines)
Subject: Re: ----> Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? (#2)
Organization: Alcatel STR AG, Switzerland
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:24:23 GMT
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In <1993Jan7.201810.15697@blaze.cs.jhu.edu> barrett@server.cs.jhu.edu writes:

> >...strong enough to say the 3 most powerful words in the english language, 
> >and mean them whole-heartedly.
> 
> 	"Hold the mayo"??
> 
>                                                         Dan

What's so important about being strong? Smell isn't everything!

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From: csujr@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Gods)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: I am new here
Date: 9 Jan 1993 04:16:32 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
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Hello

	I am new here. I would like to make some new friends here. If anyone one would like to make friend with me, please do not hestitate from doing so. Please drop me a line or so or send me a email, my address is :

	csujr@csv.warwick.ac.uk

	I am very graceful to looking forward to hearing from someone like you ! 

Gods

Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.men,soc.women,alt.sex,soc.couples,soc.singles
From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? (#2)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:05:27 GMT

In article <7JAN199314362783@vax2.concordia.ca> rwarren@vax2.concordia.ca (Rosemary from Montreal) writes:
>
>and strong enough to say the 3 most powerful words in the english language, 
>and mean them whole-heartedly.

And for those of you scratching your heads, those three words are:

"You look thin."
-- 
-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+-+*+
Nance Colucci                                      att!ihlpl!colucci
"It'll be better than before.  Yesterday's gone.  Yesterday's gone!"
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From: major@shuksan (Mike Schmitt)
Subject: Re: Where did you meet your SO?
Organization: Man Machine Systems Technology
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Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:26:00 GMT

: Our 16th wedding anniversary is comming up in May'93. 
: 	Don Johnson

  I first met my SO on the street.  Let me explain.  I was home on leave
  from the Army - enroute to Japan.  So I stopped over to say hi at a 
  friend's house.  We were standing outside talking about going to a dance
  that night (my friend had a date - I did not).  So, this young girl walks
  by (I learned later she just finished babysitting next door and was 
  walking home to the house next to my friend's) - So being the young, cocky,
  lean-mean fighting machine airborne ranger that I was.... <ahem> I spoke
  to her (without proper introduction, too) and asked, "Hi, wanna go to a dance
  with me tonight?"  She replied, "I wouldn't go out with a soldier if you
  were the last guy on earth!"  (found out later she was the daughter of an
  Army captain).  So ended our first encounter.  Next day, I decided to visit 
  an old girlfriend across the street - and met, and gave each other a hug and
  a kiss and then began hugging and kissing in earnest (like we used to do) 
  until she said, "Ooops here comes my boyfriend - you'd better go - and take
  her, too."  she said pointing to - guess who? -  Yep, the girl I had met
  the previous day on the street.  So, I said hi and she said hi and we walked
  out and we began talking and chatting - and I walked her home.  And asked
  her very politely that I really would like to take her to a dance and she
  said OK.  So began our romance.  I left for Japan.  We corresponded almost
  daily for the next 8 months. I came home on leave and we got engaged.  Then
  back to Japan for another year.  I came home and we got married.  She was
  18.  I was 22.  That was 28 years ago.

  On our last anniversary (November) I dug out my old uniform, dusted it off
  and put it on (a might snug!) polished my combat boots and put on my green
  beret and sat on the porch waiting for her to come home.  As she drove up
  after work - got out - walked along the street - I stood up and hollared,
  "Hi, wanna go to a dance with me tonight?"  Startled, she first started
  to laugh, then she started to cry and then she laughed, "I wouldn't go out 
  with a soldier if you were the last guy on earth!"  "But, you're not a 
  soldier anymore so let's go boogy!"  The rest of the evening is another
  story.........

 
-- 
Mike Schmitt - Disclaimer: These opinions are not my employer's.  My opinions 
are protected by the 1st Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of
America.  No mission too difficult, no sacrifice too great.  Duty first.
From: anders@deakin.OZ.AU (Vercingetorix)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: After Rejection
Date: 8 Jan 1993 14:02:36 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Victoria, Australia
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Keywords: After Rejection

In article <1iij6pINNkk8@zippy.telcom.arizona.edu> mui@helios.ece.arizona.edu (Peter Hong Fung Mui) writes:
>


...and having been there myself, i think it's a damn eloquent statement.

andre.
--
"she's on another planet/ she's in my dream/ she's some kinda angel/
 if u know what i mean/ try her on an' she fits like a glove/
 too bad she only thinx about the lord above/ evangeline/ i think i love u..."
 ==============anders@deakin.oz.au -- all pagan rites reserved================
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From: earhard@ug.cs.dal.ca (Mark Earhard)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:34:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.001141.24725@news.columbia.edu> rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert  Johnston) writes:
Just about everyone writes [deleted for sanity]:
>>>>>>Strong enough to keep two hearts from breaking.
>n>>>>>
>>>>(Men *AND* Women)
>>>>Strong enough to respect themselves and those around them.
>>>
>>>Nope. Strong enough to respect those people, and only those people
>>>who are worthy of respect. It takes a lot more strength to have actual,
>>>reasonable standards than to blindly respect
>>
>>Oh, fiddle faddle. 
>
>The problem is that there are people who believe that everyone should
>be respected, regardless of whether or not respect has been earned.

Well... but... so... ok...  Why *not* just respect everyone, don't you
think that would be respectable?  There are lots of contexts for respect,
and showing *respect* to someone/thing.  For example:  I don't know
the person standing next to me at the bus, but I *respect* their
right to clean air so I wouldn't blow smoke in their face.  Then again,
I don't smoke so the point is moot but I digress.

Then again I'm lible to extend the same respect for airspace to my boss,
and respect his position as my superior, while still being able to consider
him a dolt (My boss is great, by the way *SMILE*).

I get the general idea of what you're saying, but I think it may be
a _little_too_specific_ for the general statement I initially made.

What I intended by that statement was that it takes strength to have self
respect, but one must respect more than just oneself, one must respect the
other people and things around us.  I doubt you have complete disrespect
for anyone/thing you deem unrespectable.  ie:  I deem stoplights are 
unrespectable, therefor I will not respect them or what they stand for.
But hey, there are stranger things in this great big world.

>I don't know you well enough to differentiate between an attempt
>at a concise response, and sheer lunacy. 

Heh, good thing you don't know the  truth, eh?

>I apologize for assuming the 
>latter. It does seem though that most people I've encountered over the
>net who write things that may be interpreted as being loony, are, in fact,
>just that.

Ahh...  Kewyel!

Marcus.
-- 
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Mark Earhard -      earhard@ug.cs.dal.ca -       05marcus@ac.dal.ca
Reclaimer:  GIVE ME THAT BACK THIS INSTANT!      BRING THE NOISE!
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From: cah32481@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Cheryl A. Heinz)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:14:14 GMT


>cs64wag@sdcc8.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner) writes:

>>{cynicism ON}

>>I think it might have been Berke Breathed who first said "Women
>>are incredibly cuddly, beautiful creatures whose primary talent
>>is the ability to rip out your heart and feed it to the cat."

>>{or something like that}

>>{cynicism OFF}

What do you think?

Is that what I am =)?



Still love you!
Cherylie

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From: earhard@ug.cs.dal.ca (Mark Earhard)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:15:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.184411.8524@news.columbia.edu> rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert  Johnston) writes:
>In article <C0CAx6.Mux@cs.dal.ca> earhard@ug.cs.dal.ca (Mark Earhard) writes:
>>In article <0096604B.47EFA5E0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu> uphrrmk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>>>In article <C04LDD.BL3@world.std.com>, aep@world.std.com (Andrew E Page) writes:
>>>>Strong enough to keep two hearts from breaking.
>>>>
>>(Men *AND* Women)
>>Strong enough to respect themselves and those around them.
>
>Nope. Strong enough to respect those people, and only those people
>who are worthy of respect. It takes a lot more strength to have actual,
>reasonable standards than to blindly respect

Oh, fiddle faddle. 

Ok, so I was making a BlanketAssumption about people's ability to
figure out who they should respedt and who they should not.  Wait
a sec, do I have to predicate everything I say with all sorts of
crap about what I actually intended a really straightforward sentance
to say?  And just *WHY* does it take so much more strength to respect
only individuals that *YOU* deem (Remember- someone is only worthwhile
in your *OPINION*) important than respecting everyone?

Not that I think people should respect *everyone* but hell, I'll take
that side of the fence for the moment.


Ooops, I forgot this is the land of BlanketNonAssumptions.

Or is this what I get for posting a one line response?

Marcus.
-- 
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Reclaimer:  GIVE ME THAT BACK THIS INSTANT!      BRING THE NOISE!
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From: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Julie Salter)
Subject: Re: Equality between men and women; is there such a thing?
Organization: Salter, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:45:46 GMT

ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (-=[SLS]=-) shares: 

>I believe it is a scientific fact that the average woman has a higher
>pain threshold then the average man.
>
>Mabye not, I might just be making that up...but I saw my ex-wife go

No, you're not making it up.  I went through the same thing with my two
children.  The pain was like nothing I've ever felt or ever hope to feel.
BUT, there was a good reason to feel that pain....an exchange I guess you
could say.


>through three natural deliveries...NO drugs of any kind. I wouldn't
>wanna have to do that. Of course I have also known women that went
>into the hospital and said "Put me out completely and wake me up when
>it is over."

Some women can't handle that kind of pain.  And some men can't handle pain
either.  Everyone is different.  When it comes to pain from combat, it
would depend on the PERSON.  Everyone has a different pain threshold.

I certainly handled childbirth pain at the time.  But, when I cut my hand 
badly last year and required 12 stitches, I wasn't handling it very well.  
I took drugs and stayed in bed for two days.  It was horrible.

I guess what I'm saying here is that everyone is different, and you can't
divide it simply by gender.


>>(toots)
>
><honk>

<smooch> [that was for my hubby, you understand]

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Julie Salter<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
            President, Romantic Fire Association
  Wife of the Official Fireside Sex Advisor..AKA: Steven Salter
"Look into my eyes...you will see....what you mean to me......"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>email: jrsalt@silver.ucs.indiana.edu<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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From: oneil@cwis.unomaha.edu (Sharon O'Neil)
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:17:50 GMT

parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:

>In article <0096604B.47EFA5E0@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, uphrrmk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>>>(Any more along this line?)
>>    Strong enough to take responsibility for his actions.  That's about all we
>>can ask from any human being.  Men and women, alike.

>Strong enough to hold off his desired course of action (usually sex) until he's
>thought well about the consequences, i.e. is he just out for sex or does he
>want a relationship?  If he's just out for sex does the other person involved
>know this clearly as well ... and so on.  If he wants a relationship also does
>the other person know this, do they want the same thing ... blah blah blah
>Basically taking responsibility for his actions, I guess.

Amen!  Don't forget that he should be strong enough to hold off his desired
course of action until she's ready for it.  My last long term relationship 
was with such an individual.  He was strong enough to wait.  He loved me
because if he was just out after sex, then we would have broken up a lot
sooner.

One of the guys I have recently dated, however, made it pretty clear that
what he expected out of the relationship was sex.  Now, it's not that I'm
a prude, by any means, but it's not like I just wanted to jump in the sack
with this dude.  To be honest, his overzealousness to get to his desired
course of action was quite unattractive, to say the least, because I didn't
really know him all that well and it made me feel, well, quite
uncomfortable.


>Rachel                           "Supergoof!"
>                                    -  -
>                                    O  O
>                                      >
>                                     \_/
From: mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu (*R*A*I*)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: request for a song
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:00:03 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Memphis State University

> 
> hi there,
>    i am looking for words to the song
> The Rose by Bette Milder.  if anyone
> has a copy of this, could you please
> email it to me at htdoan@x400gate.bnr.ca
> 			
> thanks in advance :-)
> -hanh

From Memory...

Some say love it is a river an endless aching need,
Some say love it is a razor that leaves your heat to bleed,
I say love it is a flower...

Look at FTP CS.UWP.EDU 
pub/music/lyrics/m/midler.bette

they may have the complete song.

Rai.

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you show, Sometimes you think you're gonna 
get it, But you don't and that's just the
way it goes."  _George Michael_              MCSWEINBERG@MSUVX1.MEMST.EDU
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Subject: Need Ideas
From: JJWST2@vms.cis.pitt.edu (John Williams)
Date: 10 Jan 93 20:10:57 GMT
Followup-To: alt.romance

Ok readers of Alt.Romance

	I am going to ask a large favor of you.  What I need are some inexpensive,
romantic things to do with my SO, when she returns at the end of the week.
I would prefer indoor activities, that would complement the standard
flowers and movie ideas.  What I need is something special, but I am
romance illiterate.  So any ideas would be greatly appreciated. 

																												             Thanks 

																																									John
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From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Ok, How Strong Should A WOMAN be???!!??
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:22:03 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1993Jan11.155354.2026@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique) writes:
...
>A woman has to be VERY strong.  What in the world makes you
>think she doesn't?  *extremely shocked look*   
>
>I couldn't hardly believe my eyes when I saw you're question
>"Should they (women) be *strong* at all."   
>
>I'm assuming you mean strong in the "emotion" sense, and not
>physical.... A woman, I think, keeps the world going with her
>emotional strength.  
>
I agree 100% on this. I have sympathy for other peoples weaknesses, of 
course. But I cannot make up for the shortcomings of another person.
If I am going to share my life with someone, I want her to be able
to take care of herself.

>I am personally going thru some changes
>in my life right now that is taking a helluva lot of strength,
>and I'm trying to stay totally sober too.  I'm not the only
>woman who has ever been in this position, and I'm sure I won't
>be the last.  To get thru, we must BE STRONG....My ARC Personal
>Bodyguard, Ross, is continuously reinforcing this to me too.
>He says, "Lis, you're gonna make it, BE STRONG."   
>
Good for him. I second that. Sorry to hear that things are tough
right now.

Peace,
Michael.

--------

I made a list 
of things to say
but I want to say
all I really want to say
is 
hold her
and keep her strong
while I'm away from here. 
(REM)
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From: barrett@server.cs.jhu.edu (Dan Barrett)
Subject: Re: Need Answers to What This Girl is Thinking
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:22:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.230625.11088@hellgate.utah.edu> u-mwong%peruvian.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Michael Wong) writes:
>I know I should forget about her and continue with life...

	You are wise.

>...but I'd like to get these questions resolved.  I'm tempted
>to call this girl one more time and ask her these questions, but I don't
>want to be pain to her.  Should I call?

	In my opinion, no.  You are already working too hard.  If she is
interested in you, it shouldn't be this difficult, so I assume she's not.
And to top it off, she already has a boyfriend.

	Forget her.  Then go out and do something nice for yourself so
you'll feel better.

                                                        Dan

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From: dmbriggs@vela.acs.oakland.edu (BRIGGS DENNIS M)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: "LOVE" - I love you!
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:25:58 GMT
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

In article <1993Jan8.170917.1@aud2.aud.auc.dk> i8d5tabl@aud2.aud.auc.dk writes:
>
>"LOVE" - I love you
>
>
     [nice poem deleted]
>
>We all need you - LOVE
>We all love you - LOVE
>
>
>..One who just lost someone she never had.
>
>Hey - I'm new here. Could you please confirm that this actually
>goes worldwide. 
>For information my name is Britta and I come from Denmark.
>
Well, it got to Michigan. Nice to hear from you. 

--Mike Briggs
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From: thumim@nevada.edu (Scrooge McDuck)
Subject: Re: Amendment 2
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:57:47 GMT

In article <Jan08.065849.76737@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> cs151kx@lamar.ColoState.EDU () writes:
>		Being that I am from Colorado, i feel that we have the
>		right to vote however we choose.  If we voted against
>		special rights for gays, then that is democracy working
>		for us.  I don't feel that those who feel the need to
>		boycot us know what they are doing.  I will join the
>		boycott against the boycotters and for starters, since
>		Georgia is boycotting Colorado, and Coke is located in
>		Atlanta, I will stop drinking Coke.
>
I too am from Colorado.  I was born and raised there and have moved to
Las Vegas.  I agree that we have the right to vote however we choose.
However, democracy guarantees equal rights for all.  However, there
are those minorities that don't have equal rights.  I feel the
boycotters understand the implications of what they have done.  There
is no need to boycott them.  By doing so, you are just adding fuel to
their fire.

>		If you feel that same way, that gays should not have 
>		special rights, that is, no more special that the standard
>		american, I would encourage you to boycott the boycott and
>		to start with boycotting Coke.  And for that matter, boycott
>		everyone, and everything, that is in essence boycotting
>		the American way.  
>		Colorado has already lost ten million dollars in various
>		areas due to these people, but fine if you feel that way,
>		then stay out!!!!

Picture this scenario.  A single male is working in an office of
women.  The women continually bother the guy about being single,
trying to get him to go on a date.  Is this not sexual harrassment?
Now, to get the women to leave him alone, he admits to being gay.  The
boss discovers this and because of the Amendment in Colorado (not a
law but an amendment to the constitution of the state), he can be
fired from his job.  All he was trying to do was get the women to
leave him alone so that he could do his job.  I don't think that is
equal right as you say we all should have.

Peace.
Jon
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Subject: After Rejection
From: mui@helios.ece.arizona.edu (Peter Hong Fung Mui)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 00:51:37 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona Electrical and Computer Engineeering
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