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From: xx138@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sci-Fi Media Forum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Looking for YOUR fiction
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:30:31 GMT
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Hey, guys, this is TJ Goldstein masquerading as a maintenance account.
Thought you all might be interested in the following offer...



This is to invite you to submit your work to the ANTHOLOGY section of
the Cleveland Free-Net's Science Fiction and Fantasy Special Interest
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From: nnhill@david.wheaton.edu (Nathan N Hill)
Subject: Re: dumb Empire question; "OB1"
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 21:51:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.060420.20471@u.washington.edu> redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick) writes:
>In article <Bvu4Cy.6pz@well.sf.ca.us> rchao@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Chao) writes:
>>How did Luke get off Hoth so easily?
>
>	I've thought about this a lot.  You might as well ask:  If
>Vader was so intent on getting Luke, why did he follow the Millenium
>Falcon?  Well, here's a thought:  Vader senses Luke through the Force.
>However, at this point he does not know that Leia is Luke's sister.
>When she leaves on the Falcon, he mistakes her Force 'impression' for
>Luke's.  Since he figures that there's only one Skywalker heir running
>around, once he thinks that person is on the Falcon, he doesn't even 
>bother to worry about who might be on Hoth, *where Luke still is.*
>Luke, then, has an easy escape.  This theory does have some holes in
>it, however, most notably:  Vader isn't on the Star Destroyer that is
>in primary pursuit of the Falcon.  But Vader is so single-minded and
>egotistical that it doesn't even enter his mind that his initial
>decision to follow the Falcon might be wrong.  Who knows, really?

	As for Luke getting off of Hoth: The Force and a hyperdrive helped.
Of course, he doesn't seem to have any opposition; perhaps the fleet was
too busy stopping transports, etc. to bother with a single fighter.

	Regarding Joe's question (Why did Vader follow the Falcon?), he seems
to be ignoring the center of ESB's plot. Vader couldn't sense Leia's untrained
Force abilities; that much is clear from the fact that he held her prisoner
and tortured her TWICE and never guessed that she had a latent ability. He
didn't chase the Falcon because he thought Luke was certainly on board.
	The whole plot of the movie is Vader's dastardly plot to trap Luke:
he captures Luke's friends and tortures them for the sole reason that Luke
will sense their pain and come to him. The story revolves around Vader
implementing his plan, and Luke responding to it.

     
	BTW, I wish people would stop calling Obi-Wan OB1. The clone thing is
a fun idea to some, but really unfounded. There is an much more likely 
explanation for his name, which I've already posted but will be happy to
re-explain anytime. 
  
___________________________________________________________________________

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                 Nathan Hill (nnhill@david.wheaton.edu)

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From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: SW figures
Keywords: who are they
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:10:47 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Just who in the wild world of sports are Romba and Paploo?  Are these just some
cheesy figures that came out around the time of Jedi and appeared for perhaps
a whole, between them.  I guess this is opposed to the figures like Hammerhead,
Walrusman, and Snaggletooth who appeared for a combined 3 seconds on screen. :)
There was a time when I had all the figures, but around midway between Empire
and Jedi, I fell off the pace.  By the time Jedi came out with all these other
figures, I hadn't even noticed where they appeared.  I mean you can probably
look at the cardboard back for Bossk (for example) and say "yeah, he's that guy
that kind of hissed at the Imperial officer."  But who looks at the, oh I don't
know, Amanaman board and says,"Oh yeah! I remember him!"  At least Nien Numb
was identifiable, heck he even had a speaking part!  Also, which of these figures
were ONLY sold as part of an action playset.  For example, the Han Solo in
carbonite.  Wasn't that only available with Slave1?  Despite the :) in the
4th line of this post, I am serious about wanting to know where some of these
guys came from.  Even on the playsets, commercials, glasses, cups, etc you could
pretty much gather who Max Rebo, Sy Snootles were.  But some of these guys seem
just obscure as hell, and while we're on the subject, was there a figure of
<Greedo's brother> made?  I can't remember his name, but he is noticeable
in the background in Jedi and in the background of some of the other boards.
Well, I'm done.  Flame away!  :)
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From: garvey@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Heather Garvey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Heir to the Empire
Date: 15 Oct 1992 21:54:24 GMT
Organization: Smith Undergrad Lab, CWRU, Cleve. OH
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tryder@nyx.cs.du.edu (Trevathon Ryder) writes:
>
>Secondly, who is Mara at Jabba's palace??  She claims to have
>been there, and Skywalker made a fool out of her .. The only
>thing I can think of is that she could possibly be Boba Fett
>and managed to escape before being digested ...  Any ideas?

	Like the book said, she was a dancer for Jabba and the reason 
she didn't get to thwart him at the Sarlaac Pit was because Jabba
wouldn't let her go with on the sail barge. Bummer, eh?


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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:37:11 EDT
From: Brian Panulla, MooCow <BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Classic SW Comic #1
 <1992Oct8.000855.5368@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
 <1992Oct8.011903.169@u.washington.edu>

In article <1992Oct8.011903.169@u.washington.edu>,
redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick) says:
>
>        As far as I can tell, there were two separate newspaper strips:
>The first was done by Russ Manning (who recently died of AIDS, I think)
>in 1977-78.  Then Marvel alumni Al Williamson and Archie Goodwin
>started up another strip than ran from 1981-1983 and it is this one
>that is being re-done by Dark Horse.  The story concerns events which
>happen between SW and ESB.  So far, I like it, but I'd also like to see
>Manning's strip again too.  I have heard rumours of an anthology of his
>newspaper strip, but have yet to see one.  Anyone . . . ?
>
I have one...In my closet. I clipped most of the strips and put 'em in a photo
album. Fun fun fun! Does anyone else remember that sadistic shadow Black Hole?
With his custom black-armor-white-bodyglove Stormtroopers?
______
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bjp108@psuvm.psu.edu / ender@vivaldi.psu.edu / moocow@fubar.bk.psu.edu
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Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:14:18 -0400 
From: Paul Joseph Mitchell <pm3z+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Luke's lightsaber

    Perhaps, when Luke hit some of the skiff guards with his lightsaber
they recoiled from it in pain (think about a time you have accidentally
touched a very hot pot on the stove - you don't just sit there with your
hand on the pot saying "gee, I'm burning my hand"...), and that
contributes to the illusion that the lightsaber itself is actually
knocked them around.

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pm3z@andrew.cmu.edu                 Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania
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The views expressed are those of the author only.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: close
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:55:05 PST


Could someone please post or e-mail me what a reasonable price would be
for a Yak Face action figure?  The figure is in excellent condition, but
is off the card and has no accessories.  Thanks!
Joe Walker
walkerjo@cgsvax.claremont.edu
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: SW Chess Set?
Date: 14 Oct 92 03:09:57 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1bcasbINNk2s@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mmartin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew Wayne Martin) writes:
>	On a different subject, this summer someone mentioned on the net that a
>STAR WARS Chess set (like the Star Trek one) was being made.  Any info when it
>will be available and for how much?

A Star Wars chess set?  Interesting.  Of course, the question is:
who would each of the pieces be?  I've come up with the following
(tentative) idea:

White
King: Luke
Queen: Leia
Bishop: Han
Knight: C-3PO
Rook: R2-D2
Pawn: Normal rebel trooper

Black
King: Emperor
Queen: Vader
Bishop: Tarkin
Knight: Boba Fett
Rook: Piett
Pawn: Stormtrooper

Of course, there's problems with this.  For example, Lando, Ben, Yoda,
and several other characters won't be used.  I suppose you could
make some of the pieces different, i.e. say King's Bishop is Ben, 
while Queen's Bishop is Han, etc. but then you probably won't have
enough unique characters to use for the Imperials.  Any suggestions?

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: wiegekn@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Starwars/Steven King... Hunh???
Date: 7 Oct 92 10:40:20 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY



   Recently, a friend of mine and I were skimming over these
nets and found a very intresting article on trademarking the
new stuff from the books, and something was mentioned about
what happened to Steven King recently. Would someone out there
in net land please send me any pertinant information about this?
My frequency of reading these nets is woefully low, and I would
really like to know about this one. Please E-Mail me your responses
so as not to horribly clutter up the net. 
                                                  
                                              My many thanks,
                                         Kurt Nikolaus Wiegel
                                                  &
                                         Molley the Mage (Sean Molley)

   " Beauty is the battleground on which God and Satan Vie for the
        Human Soul..."

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: No more movies?
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:19:45 GMT

>>>I remember hearing somewhere that Lucas said he would film movie VII when
>>                                                                  ^^^
>>Just to be picky, that should be movie I, since the next movie should
>>be the start of the first trilogy.
>
>Why, what makes you the authority of which trilogy Lucas will do next if
>he even does one at all?  Personally I see absolutely no point to the
>first trilogy even being put onto the screen.

AAUGH!!  Sorry.  I see *every* point in putting the first trilogy to the
screen.  In fact, I'd rather see the first trilogy put to the screen than the
last.  Entertainment doesn't always depend on not knowing what is going to
happen -- heck, in Shakespeare's day, everybody already *knew* the stories --
they wanted to see how it would be done.  So do I with the first trilogy.
And I bet there is a lot of agreement with me from others out there on this
one.  It would be *SO* cool to see the first three movies, and witness first
hand (as opposed to a poor second) the clone wars, the fall of the republic,
and Anakin's transformation to the legendary Darth Vader....


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From: harp@breeze.rsre.mod.uk (Andy Harp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Clone wars
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:16:09 GMT
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X-Disclaimer: Any opinions expressed are my own.


Sorry if this is an FAQ (I'm new to this group), but does anybody actually
know what the clone wars were and why they were called this ?


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From: kfr@pro-freedom.cts.com (Kurt Roithinger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: ESB- Luke & the Cave
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:01:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Oct13.130138.2288
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

In <1992Oct13.033351.308@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson) writes:

>There are several interpretations of the Dagobah cave scene,
>including:
>
>1. It foretells the Vader/Luke relationship. (It does, but this
>is IMHO a purely secondary consideration in the scene.)
>
>2. It shows that the greatest enemy Luke will have to overcome
>at this stage in his development is himself. (This is my
>favored interpretation, and all must prostrate themselves
>before My Exalted Opinion :-)
>
>Hope that helps the person who originally posted about this...
>--
>D.A.M.: Mothers Against Dyslexia
>Steve Tilson, star of the upcoming film "Goyz 'N' the Hood"

has anyone ever noticed how the cave scene bears a more then fleeting
resemblance to the confrontation between no.6 and no.1 in the "prisoner" 
tv series? just as luke finds his face under vaders mask, so did tno.6 when
he at long last (i think it was the last episode of the show) saw the face
of no.1...
just wondering...

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From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Bugs on Broadway
Date: 7 Oct 1992 21:06:14 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

>	I can't imagine them riding the hype that long without some film to
>show for it.  Even if they were able, it might make the new films hyped beyond
>their ability to deliver (I'm sure they will be great, but 5+ years of hype
>for 3 films is a bit much)  The books will not be competing with the movies,
>most Star Wars fans will run out and buy all the books as well as see all the
>movies about 50 times each. :) People who are anal-retentive about Canon might
>just skip the books, but they'd skip them anyways -- no competetion.

	I don't think a Star Wars film COULD be hyped beyond its ability to
deliver.  Especially now; the Zahn novels have gotten us impatient for a new
film.  I don't think Lucas would be having the new books and comics just for
the purpose of making extremely large amounts of money.  He's using them (IMHO)
for the purpose of creating a situation where a new movie could make such an
incredible amount of money that it would set a new all-time total money made
situation in its first weekend of release :).

							-Jay

Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: adrian@cs.hw.ac.uk (Adrian Hurt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vaders death
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:38:10 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <BvJ769.Eu2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
>jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets) writes:
>
>>Umm, why exactly DID Vader die????
>>Luke withstood MUCH more than Vader from the emporer
>>whats the story?
>
>As I mentioned previously in my post describing the Jedi script (am I the
>only one who tries to read carefully?), Vader dies from a combination of:
>1) the battering he takes from Luke
>2) the tremendous physical effort needed to throw the Emperor into the shaft
>3) the Emperor's lightning that strikes Vader

Also, note that up till then, the Emperor had not been trying to kill Luke -
only to torture him.  By contrast, the bolts directed at Vader were intended
to kill Vader before Vader killed him.  The Emperor wanted to hurt Luke, and
then kill him slowly; he wanted to kill Vader quickly.

Besides, what you didn't see was the Emperor flipping a couple of the switches
on Vader's chest. :-)

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:25:38 -0400 
From: "Jim Thomas Park , Jr." <jp45+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Lucas Interview

Has anybody read the interview with George Lucas that wa SUPPOSED to
have been printed in a fanzine on October 10th?? He was or is supposed
to talk about the status of the Star Wars saga. If there is such an
interview could someone either let me know where it is published or post
it here on the net.

				Thanks,
				  -Jim
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From: jatg5423@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John A. Ternent)
Subject: Re: hardware wars
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:16:44 GMT

f_alfan@pavo.concordia.ca (ALFANI, FABRIZIO) writes:


> While flipping through this newsgroup, I noticed someone (Gallandro) using
>a quote from Hardware Wars, a short spoof of SW which appeared in the early 
>80's. My question is, does anybody (Canada/continental U.S) have a copy of this
>satire, or know where I can get one? E-mail me, I just have to see that spoof
>again, and I'll go to pretty extreme lengths to do so.

>Aggie Ben Doggie Rules!

It was recently included on a Star Trek and ST:TNG bloopers video, along
with three SNL skits. I got this video at a convention, but I imagine that
a lot of SF dealers carry it. Maybe.
'
For what it's worth,

John Ternent
jatg5423@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: ST201714@brownvm.brown.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Lynch directing SW (Re: Cast of 'Prefix' T
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 02:52:14 EDT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
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News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

Regarding David Lynch being offered the Directorial duties for ROTJ, if people
out there believe those segments shown before movies in theatres (General
Cinema), then that assumption is correct.   A bio on Lynch gives his director-
ial history, and it includes his rejection of being offered the apportunity.
I will say this...it would have been VERY different from Marquand's version,
maybe better.  If it would have been anything like Dune (Long Version), ROTJ
directed by Lynch could have been one of the best movies ever.  (IMHO, of
course)

             Hasta Luego,

                        L. Eduardo Romo III
                        st201714@brownvm.brown.edu
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Subject: Re: SW Chess Set?
From: Brian Panulla, MooCow <BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:57:39 EDT
Organization: Miskatonic University

In article <1992Oct14.030957.6761@njitgw.njit.edu>, bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu
(Brian Perler) says:
>
>A Star Wars chess set?  Interesting.  Of course, the question is:
>who would each of the pieces be?  I've come up with the following
>(tentative) idea:

Here's my ideas.

(Brian #1)                           (Brian #2)
>
>White
>King: Luke                          Luke
>Queen: Leia                         Leia
>Bishop: Han                         Han, Chewbacca
>Knight: C-3PO                       Snow Soldiers on Tauntauns
>Rook: R2-D2                         Cannon towers from Hoth
>Pawn: Normal rebel trooper          Rebel Commandos or Pilots
>
>Black
>King: Emperor                      Emperor
>Queen: Vader                       Vader
>Bishop: Tarkin                     Tarkin, Piett
>Knight: Boba Fett                  AT-STs
>Rook: Piett                        Cannon towers from the Death Star
>Pawn: Stormtrooper                 Stormtroopers
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(The opinions expressed above are mine alone, and do not reflect those of)
(Penn State University, or the Center for Academic Computing, so there!  )