From: crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass)
Subject: Re: Dale Bass on The Good, the Bad, and The Bogus
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 07:28:46 GMT

In article <Bzqt7u.4pA@well.sf.ca.us> sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti) writes:
>
>He also wrote in response to your press release about Uri Geller
>      "Note the clear implication in Sarfatti's release that having his
>      doctorate in physics made him specially qualified to rule out
>      deception".  The whole tone of the article is skeptical, and some
>      of the things you have stated above are actually quoted in the
>      article as your own words, the rest are portrayed as your
>      ideas, not Gardner's.   I wouldn't say the article is any kind
>      of stunning validation.
>
>                              dale bass
>I never implied that Gardner's article is anything but skeptical - where
>did I say it was a stunning validation? But Gardner is careful to hedge
>with his remark that if I am right I would be one of the greatest physicists
>of all time - not what he would say of an obvious crackpot. Was Bethe,

     The point is that the article is not complimentary.  You took
     what you quoted out of context.  From the tone of the article,
     I don't think Gardner would think he had hedged at all.  Maybe you
     or I should write him and ask. 

>Morrison, Salpeter, Brueckner, Cummings and my many other professors who
>examined me and granted three degrees in physics BA Cornel 1960, MS physics
>1967, Ph.D physics 1969 - were they too busy with their research to properly
>teach and examine? That's the only implication - I'll burn my degrees if
>they return their salaries for the years I sat at their feet - not to
>mention Bohm and Salam who had me come to Trieste etc.

     Just curious.  Why do you think that sitting at the metaphorical feet of 
     Bethe, say, has anything to do with anything?  You seem to say
     stuff like that frequently.  Why?

     Do you not think the force of your own arguments compelling
     enough?

>No, the situation is not that simple. My point about Gardner's article is
>that I was an obscure asst prof at San Diego State until I became a
>useful idiot of un-named intelligence agencies - a pawn in a vast
>geo-political game - some of the spooks revealed themselves to me in the
>mid-80's.

     Where's alt.conspiracy when you need it?  (not in the header, good,
     I'll put it there). Somehow, pawn is not the position in which 
     I envision you. 

> Gardner was part of this covert intelligence operation because
>his article, more than any other factor, put me "in the thick of it" -

     It appears that you put yourself in the 'thick of it', from 
     the point of view of a casual observer.  You know, you'd think
     after so many years, that Mr. Geller would have come up with
     the definitive way to demonstrate his 'powers' beyond all
     doubt.

>to quote British Intelligence agent Dennis Bardens in a remark to me
>in Blue Boar Inn Cambridge UK spring of 74' the full remark was
>"Dr. Sarfatti, it is my duty to inform you of a psychic war raging across
>the continents between the Soviet Union and your country and you are to be
>in the thick of it." It was no accident that shortly afet I received large
>sums of money from Werner Erhard and started a program at Esalen that
>finally let to Sid Coleman and Lenny Susskind havinf Feynman, Hawking, Gell
>Mann, Finkelstein and many others come to meetings with Werner Erhard - the
>elite of physics accepted money and favors from Erhard - so if you bring
>up Erhard you open a Pandora's Box in the physics community. More later
>if there interest in this.

     Somehow I doubt it, he said dryly.

                               dale bass


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