From: math1rb@jane.uh.edu (92F07486)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: What do you do when your child thinks Metallica is cool?
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:43:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: jane.10NOV199222431077
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In article <1992Nov10.195138.11094@uoft02.utoledo.edu>, jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes...
>aeg@vixen.uucp (24104-gronczewski) writes:
>> What do you do when your child thinks Metallica is cool?
> 
>congratulate them on their musical taste?
> 
>> My son came home one day and said that the new hot group on the 
>> school bus is Metallica.  He is a seventh grader and goes to a 
>> Catholic grammer school.  Thanks to the threads on this net I 
>> passed along some of the info about Metallica to my son and told 
>> him to stick with Carmen instead. (He likes Carmen very much)  
> 
>now that is something to be worried about. (*insert big half smiley
>here* IMNSHO, Carmen is one of the cheesiest excuses for a 'musician' 
>there is.)
> 
>> I would not want to re-kindle the intense discussion that just 
>> recently ended, but any material concerning their religious 
>> convictions, music, lyrics, etc. that I can pass along to other 
>> parents would be appreciated.
> 
>you want something you can use to convince other parents that Metallica
>is evil & they shouldn't let their kids have it on the bus so your
>child won't be influenced by it? sorry, can't give you any such thing.
> 
>there is nothing inherently evil about Metallica. yes, they are not 
>Christians. they -are- talented artists. if it were me, i wouldn't worry
>too much. however, it's not me, so i'll give you ideas that might work
>a little better.
> 
>your son will encounter a -lot- of things that you'd probably rather
>he didn't. you can protect him from a few, but there's no way you can
>turn him in a sterile "Christian" version of the bubble boy. a better
>approach would be to boost his moral "immune system". teach him to 
>evaluate what he sees and hears. if Metallica is truely bad for him 
>he should be able to determine that himself. provide alternatives. 
>take him for a trip to the nearest book store with demo tapes and 
>spend two hours finding Christian bands with musical styles he likes. 
>get one for him. let him take a tape player on the bus with his new 
>purchase & provide a better alternative for the other kids as well.
> 
>a positive approach may be harder to take, but it will work a -lot-
>better in the long run, and give your son a strong foundation for
>those times when you won't be there to eliminate the less desirable
>things from his life.
> 
>a guy who's been the subject of both methods, and knows which one works,
>jason
> 
>ps: One Bad Pig is generally a winner with that age group.
> 
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Speaking as a christian youth (23 yrs. old) I find that the music on the
Christian radio station is, well to be blunt,..lame. I'm not saying anything
about its value, or content, but a lot of young people like music that has a
lot of energy and has lyrics that they can relate to, On the other hand,
bands like King's X and Galactic Cowboys are great! Actually at first I
didn't know either was christian, but know that i do know it makes me
appreciate dthem that much more. I was talking with my parents the other
day about my younger brother, and thought came up that America has lost its
innocence (sp?). This doesn't mean that kids should listen to obvious
satanic (read as stupid) music. 
  What it says is that I and others can
relate to an Alice in Chains or Temple of the Dog songs about a friend
who died of drug overdose. While this is no means christian it is "real"
life, and does send forth an important message. I try not to judge others
allthough I really dislike pop/dane type music:) and a lot of hard rock/
heavy metal music is actually some of the most "musical" of all forms of
contempory music, although a lot does really suck.
   I can relate to your problem, because when I was in junior high, Iron
Maiden was THE band, but I thought they were obviously satanic. So I'd
only listen to the lighter stuff, like the Beatles...of course I finally
realized what the Beatles were really saying in their later days and 
realized how hypocritical I had been, and then became a huge fan of
Iron Maiden...haha
  Okay I'll skip all the bible refernces (or lack of)....

  I think restraining oneself is to only christian music on the
grounds that it is christian is silly. I mean does that make the music
holier? I think a lot of people (well actually I know of) shut themselves
out from the rest of the world by only listening to christian music, and
what's funny is that these people used to like "rock" music before they
were "re-born". I mean I guess that's okay for some people who have
troubles with temptations, and are easily influenced by everything. But
then I'm a fighter and choose to face my problems head on...

  I think a lot of people are real hypocrites, and have that "holier than
thou" attitude, and come across real preachy... Heck I'm a sinner and I
admit it, but I do my best.

 Well what I say is let your kid listen to what they want. Take an interest
in it, after all he'll listen to it just to spite ya. Like someone once
said some of the most christian people they knew weren't Christians.

later,
   dave

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