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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:27:21 CDT
From:         Frank Peters <fwp@CC.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Apophasis
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In article <2a749da2.cursci@cursci.UUCP> Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk> says:
:
: How big is Akio's tape + archives-since-then?  (We haven't lost any have
: we?  I was relying on the _gopher_ archives having everything between the
: end of Akio's tape and now.  Bound to be stuff dropped off the _ftp_ archive
: since the tape was shipped.)

We are up to about 80MB now.  No, we haven't lost any.

: Good man Frank.  Actually, I personally don't mind the archives being
: up for ftp as long as there's a readme file in the directory that says
: that they're just for the benefit of wordslers and not to be used for
: 'nefarious purposes'...

That is part of my problem.  I am uncomfortable putting files out on
an anonymous FTP archive and then try to say that the vast majority of
the FTP public (or the vast majority of my own users) can't access it
if they want to.

: I'll even volunteer to write the readme :-)

If I'm convinced that such a notice is a good idea I could probably
knock one out fairly quickly. :-)

: Still, the ideal thing would be to have everything on Gopher.  Could
: ftp.msstate.edu run a gopher server perhaps, using the same space that
: would otherwise have been ftp space?  That way you can look for anything
: interesting, but not download the whole lot to study.  (Well, not without
: immense difficulty)

Ummm...no.  First, that system is already overloaded without adding
gopher to the mix.  Second, the wais indexes (which is what gopher
uses) take up as much space as the archives themselves.  So making them
available via gopher would require twice the resources necessary for
FTP.

: I suspect the reason searches were usually for recent stuff was that
: the old stuff people would want to look for was *very* old rather
: than one or two months old.  Certainly that was the case with me.

We are talking about 160ish (and growing at an ever increasing rate)
megabytes here.  Would anyone really use them enough to justify dedicating
that much of my disk space to it?

Also, keep in mind that the wais indexing algorithm is VERY stupid and
not too efficient.  So any search on the entire database is going to be
slow and will probably generate a lot of false hits unless you have a
truely unique word to search for.
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:51:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: It Might As Well Be Spring
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> >Such a shame, the youngsters don't know *any* of these songs.
> >--ggs
>
> How old is a youngster?
>
> - RobyMeister (Younger than springtime)

Well, in this context, I think that the big break came about 1960
or 1961.  People who had their primary music-listening experiences
before 1960 probably know the "standards" on which most traditional
"progressive" jazz is based, and those who had those experiences
after 1960 do not know them, except through the resurrections done
by singers such as Willie Nelson, Harry Connick, and what's-her-name
who shacked up with Jerry Brown.  My spouse, for example, is 13 years
younger than I and knows very little about these songs, what she knows
is the result of her mother's having played them on the "record player"
My children know them all, because I sang them to sleep every night
with _It's All Right With Me_,  _I'll Be Seeing You_,  _Where Or When_,
and lots of others.
So, a <youngster> is, I suppose, someone under about 42.
--ggs (I know, I know, there are lots of you more <enlightened> than
       I give you credit for....  I know.... Ya se.....)
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:06:19 CDT
From:         Frank Peters <fwp@CC.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Swedish crayfish
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In article <HAYCOCK.92Jul28114730@marley.think.com> haycock@marley.think.com
 (Anne Haycock) says:
:      16 lb live, purged crayfish             2 tbsp salt
:
: Pray tell, how does one make a crayfish purge?

One allows it to have a nice pleasant swim in a tub of salt water.
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:33:31 EDT
From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Crosspost about women
              21 Jul 1992 13:26:39 U from <harwell@SMTPGATE.TECHRSCS.PANAM.EDU>

OK, Anne, who is this refugee from a men's prison camp and just who
does he think he is?

Evelyn (miffed)
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From: jwagner@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Judith O Wagner)
Subject: Re: birth order
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Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:32:56 GMT

In article <WORDS-L%92073100175426@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> Ovinglay Is-hay Eeahtamay <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU> writes:
>>         was in a wheel chair *totally* incapacitated with two broken
>>         legs and a broken arm received when she fell off the roof
>>         of a two-story house under construction
>
>I'm sorry 2Judith my dear but I *know* you are making this up.
>I saw this in a movie once.  Or is this one of those
><double-entendre> posts, and I just don't understand it?
>--ggs (who can spot a fishy story in the <batting> of an eye)

Truth is stranger than fiction!  (Did I *really* say that?)

2Judith who has pictures to prove that it happened on her 12th
        birthday



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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 22:02:44 -0500
From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      cookie contest election
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I was just reading in the newspaper about the cookie recipe contest
between Presidential candidates' wives dreamed up by _Woman's Day_ or
_Family Circle_...there's an idea!  We can just vote on the cookie we like
best and save all the time and money involved in the Presidential campaign
and election.
ndh (who can't work up any enthusiasm for *either* candidate)
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 07:39:45 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (54
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11) Sammich

is indeed my word for sandwich. sometimes, when i'm
feeling daring, the word is sanweesh, with the emph. on
the 'weesh.

doesn't look like i have strep, but i have totally
lost my voice since saturday. needless to say, the
marine doesn't miss it one bit.

went to visit mummer over the weekend, and she was
very disappointed that i didn't have clambake
pictures to show her.  I said "but mom, you
don't know any of these people" and she said "well,
neither did you". and i think i should get her
a modem for her birthday.

it seems my estranged father has been very ill, with what
was first diagnosed as Lyme Disease, then Pnemonia, then Malaria,
and now, he claims, the dr's have decided (after taking five vials
of blood) that its Lyme Disease afterall...i have a feeling that
my father is lying to me about what is making him ill...

jenna at work, but frightningly silent.
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:57:21 EDT
From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      The State of Being Gifless
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> How can anybody be gifless?  There are free gif viewers everywhere.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Well, Natalie.  You should come at talk to the people at my univ.'s
computing services office.  For one thing, my *massive* storage
space is 300k.  For another thing,neither I nor my division's
computer guru has ever been able to download binary files intact.
(Yes, I know there's uu-encoding.)  When I asked for help, I found
out that no one down there has ever downloaded a binary file.  And
then when I blushingly explained the clambake, and that the reason
I was particularly interested was .gifs.....the person in charge
of mainframe support for the university said "What's a .gif?"

Karen
who desperately wants a new jobeven though she got a 2% raise.:(
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:57:00 LCL
From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject: Re: hi
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>At least its hard to get flamed for such a
>timid first post.....except for being flamed for being so timid???


     I thought about it, but decided to kick a puppy instead.

     Carol
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:48:00 EDT
From:         jcs <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      more kitty stories
Comments: To: words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

Well,

Mister Kitty was missing again from Sunday night
on, and by yesterday eve i was beginning to suspect
that he had returned to the old apartment, so just before
dark, at about 7:45 pm, we drove over there. Sure enough,
there he was, howling on the roof. He must have been
there for a while because he was starting to sound
a little hoarse.  Of course, this time, there was
no one home, so i couldn't climb on to the roof to get him.

so, we waited... then we tried to break in though the back
door...then tried to break in through the windows...and
we waited some more, then Pea went to get the landlord, who
didn't have the keys anymore, having given them to the world's
most incompetent handyman, and finally pea decided to climb
the tree.  The tree that has few branches until you reach at least
12 feet or so...he got half way up the tree (and, mind you, i'm
having visions of both of them being stuck on the roof, and the
police coming, and having to call the fire department and
say "excuse me, can you rescue my husband and my kitty
from the roof of a house in which we don't live anymore?"

he had just gotten to the tricky part of the tree, where he
would have to inch out onto an unsafe branch and then jump
6 feet to the roof top, when the current tenants came home.

I rescued my tired and dehydrated kitty, and then coaxed
the marine down from the tree...and then we went to get
ice cream, where we ran into Katie Sharkey.  Then Mister
Kitty rubbed up against my raspberries and cream ice cream
cone,(leaving kat hair everywhere) and i grounded him for the next week.


All that and a dentist appointment, In One Day!

jenna, almost glad to be back at work today.
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 14:03:14 GMT
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Women in Combat

*** Resending note of 07/31/92 14:02

>But peaceful Don is not advocating all the violence.
>Doris

Thank you Doris!

OK abh, where are you?  This is all your fault!  I'm just trying to follow
your standards and there is incoming everywhere.  But so far no 122mm
sharpnel has hit any vital parts!
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:38:00 EST
From:         "Alec D. Plotkin 215-645-4366"
 <185422285%VUVAXCOM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      I guess that this weekend will be pretty quiet.

>The University of Georgia main computing facility will go down at
>0800, Saturday, 25 July for hardware re-cableing and re-arrangement.
>The outage is expected to last 24 hours, but may last longer.  We will
>be back up by Midnight, Sunday, 26 July 1992.  The University of Georgia
>is a BITNET core site.

>Because this outage is expected to last only 24 hours, and at worst case
>will last 40 hours, no alternative routing has been planned.

Before going to sleep tonite remember to pray for UGA.


later

alec
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:18:36 MED
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@STACK.URC.TUE.NL>
Subject:      Re: Kids having kids
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:	Doris you are so right. As the mother of two beautiful adopted
:children, (15 years ago today we got the call to come pick up our son),
:and a high school teacher my students know my views on teenaged
:pregnancy. This year my yearbook editor was pregnant and decided to give the

Oops!  rapid gender reassignment...  (Sorry Pat)

G
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 01:03:00 EDT
From:         "Jaiske Jydits Yeitsu Miata" <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      The *Joke* To Say Goodnight
Comments: To: English Language Discussion Group <words-l@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>

So, since everyone else has obviously gone to bed, I will tell
the joke for your (y'all's) edification in the morning:
.
Man has a terrible stutter and he goes to the doctor who tells
him that his <sinclair> is so big and long that it is putting
pressure on his vocal cords and what he needs is a new operation
that is, in effect, a penis transplant.
So, the man has the operation and his stutter goes away, but his
significant other says: "Look, you nerdo stupid*ss nitbrain dork,
it's just no fun anymore....  I didn't hang out with you to listen
to you talk plain.... So, goodbye until you do something about
this and I can feel the *old* you."
Man is very distraught so he goes back to the doctor and says that
he want his old penis back and the doctor says:
.
"T-t-t-t-tooooo l-l-l-laaaate."
.
--ggs (thinking in retrospect that he has t-t-t-told this joke
       on this list before.....   )
p.s.: Just laugh anyway, o.k.?  Bon soir.  Buenas noches.
Buona sera. Jetzits Nairtzts.   Udgay Aightnay.  Psalms 35:17.
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Subject: Re: WHTMIT

*** Resending note of 07/28/92 23:24

>--ggs (who *never* treated himself to anything special in his
>       54 years)

ggs, just wanted to brag that I once did treat myself - carwise.  Bought
a late model 55 Cadillac ElDorado convertible ..one with twin four barrel
carbs, 300 HP (lot for its day) and *REAL* spoke wheels!  I may have
looked like a dork, but that car sure did draw a lot of admiring glances!

Don, waiting for this third childhood to buy some ridiculous plaything ..
maybe a restored Panterra!
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:15:32 CDT
From:         Tushar Samant <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
Subject: Re: I feel so CHEAP
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>Wasn't the real Tushar on IRC 'virup' -- who said he liked Bernardykins
                                                      ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~
Another impostor. Sigh.

tushar
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:13:29 MST
From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
Subject:      watch
Comments: To: All fellow wordslers <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>,
              Gail Lester <gaill@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com>,
              Liz Clayton <lclayton@uhuru.uchicago.edu>,
              Allan Ebel <dosebel@idbsu.BITNET>,
              Mike Urizar <urizar@euskadi.idbsu.edu>,
              Alan Virta <alivirta@idbsu.BITNET>

I just heard there is a new commemorative wristwatch on the market....


It is the Ross Perot Watch

      |
      |
      |
      |
      |
      |
      |
      |
     \ /



It runs six months...




and then quits





dan
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:37:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: <sigh>
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> >ARRFFFHHH.  No, *that* *just* *really* *pisses* *me* *off*!!!
>
> This thing *is* *kinda* *catching* eh?  Can't complain - after all,
> the <waka>s have stopped.
>
> tushar

Well, all I can say, ts you little artichoke heart you, is that you
have *not* been <reading your mail> very carefully or else you are
something less than <observant> of late.  Too involved in all that
you-thought-I-was-an-inhabitant-of-the-world-but-in-fact-I-am-not
sort of recidivous rhetorical metagrobolizing to realize that
some things <can't be stopped>.
--<ggs>
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:26:15 EDT
Reply-To:     Graham Toal <gtoal@ed.ac.uk>
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Mud/Irc
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On Tue, 21 Jul 1992 17:29:24 EDT, "Karen Kay" <ll23@nemomus.bitnet> wrote:
> I disagree--I found it enormously difficult to merely talk, and that's
> the maximum of what I have been able to accomplish.

*chortle* *chortle* *chortle* *chortle* *chortle* *chortle* *chortle* !!!!

g
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:02:00 GMT
From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Sea World (was re: Gleanings (54))
Comments: To: mbx <words-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>

>On Mon,27 Jul 1992 09:03:55 CDT Fear and Loathing Come to South      said:Texas

>>One of those three SeaWorlds is also in San Antonio Texas.Does     e elseanyon
>>feel ashamed to see those magnificent creatures doing absurd        s andbackf
>>party tricks for a bunch of beltpack-wearing tourists and their     y kids?sno

>Yes.

>Tony H.

OK, I don't know what the heck XEDIT is doing, but inserting 'greater
than' signs is causing my quoted messages to go all haywire.
Aaaaargh!

I've never gotten excited about any kind of animal tricks.  I'm not
sure why - I always thought they were kind of stupid.  I was at
Marine World Africa USA (whattaname!) this weekend for a company
picnic, and watched the Killer Whale and Dolphin show.  While I love
watching those wonderful mammals, I wasn't thrilled about the tricks;
I think the more I see such things, the worse they make me feel.

I enjoyed the Animal Habitat part of the park more than the show,
- in that part most of the animals are just there for viewing,
not performing stupid animal tricks.  However, their habitats did
leave a lot to be desired.  I've never been an animal rights activist
- in most cases, if the use of animals can save human lives,
it's probably worth it - but I am somewhat troubled by the way we as
a society tend to treat animals (especially the more intelligent
ones, such as dolphins).

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:02:00 LCL
From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject: Re: Five Reasons (was tushar, boy..)
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>On Tue, 21 Jul 1992 01:53:10 CDT, "Tushar Samant" <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>
> wrote:
><excessively long included message deleted>
>Tushar, don't you think the Jim Thomas pastiches have gone on <long enough>?
>What did he ever to you anyway to merit this bombasity?

>G

     Graham, have mercy.  Don't make us page through the <whole damn
     thing> all over again for a weensie little recycled barb like
     this.

     Carol "bombast is already a noun"
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Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 10:07:00 EST
From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cure For High Blood Pressure?
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>First, station I listen to on way to work has little trivia game.  Today's
>was which of the following (which I won't list) is true about nudists?  The
>answer was, nudists as a group have lower blood pressure than non's - 7 %
>vs 17 %.  So which of my two conclusions are accurate?:

>a.  becoming a nudist will tend to lower your blood pressure

>or

>b.  people with high blood pressure tend not to become nudists.

	Probably b.  Hypertension is strongly associated with overweight and
	obesity, conditions which I suspect would tend to decrease the
	probability that one would become a nudist.

	Since the prevalence of hypertension they quote for non-nudists (17%)
	seems quite low, I wonder what age/race/sex groups were sampled,
	whether the same sampling scheme was used for nudists and non-nudists,
	and whether the results were adjusted for those important covariates.

	Oops, getting carried away with this basic epidemiology stuff...  I'm
	sure the radio station's morning drive guy either plucked these
	worthless 'factoids' off the wire or just made it up.

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From: jwagner@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Judith O Wagner)
Subject: Re: Apophasis
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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:09:16 GMT

In article <05920728012050/0003328635NA1EM@mcimail.com> WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM> writes:
>
>Were you from the area, 2Judith, or just there for school?  I grew up
>in South Bend (didn't go to Notre Dame or St. Mary's because I needed
>to get *away* from home).
>
>Jill
>   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)

Jill--I was raised in Toledo OH, went to SMC, back to Toledo, to Univ
oQ|of Michigan, back to Toledo, to Notre Dame, to Okinawa, to St. Paul,
to Madison, Whitewater, Madison, Baraboo WI, and now to Columbus OH.

2Judith who is a midwesterner no matter how hard she tries to
        be a swish cosmopolitan



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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:51:53 EDT
From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Dessert
              22 Jul 1992 07:55:03 EDT from <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

Jenna,
  From the info you gave, stay where you are.  If you move, you might
lose a lot more than the difference in rents.

Evelyn
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:02:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Sea World (was re: Gleanings (54))
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> On Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:31:00 EDT Gilbert Smith said:
> >.
> >SWOSM
>
> Siegi wants one small mouse.
> >.
> >--ggs
>
> Evelyn

This is *funny*, funnier than G's previous invention, though that
was funny in a MOE sort of way.  Actually, I was thinking more in
dairiesque terms, but you can, or course <make of it what you will>.
--Mrs. Filbert's spouse (--ggs)
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