From: mdouglas@netcom.com (Mike Douglas-Llyr)
Subject: Re: Asian Cop Murders White Woman in Asian Chancellor's Home
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 21:08:34 GMT
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kawakami@ocf.berkeley.edu (John Kawakami) writes:

>In article <1812btINNqq9@agate.berkeley.edu> wltsai@ocf.berkeley.edu (Wei-Lun Tsai) writes:

>>A bit of background here.  Recently U.C. Berkeley tried to reclaim People's
>>Park and built a volleyball and a basketball court in the "park."  (I say
>>"park" because it's hardly a place where I would feel comfortable hanging
>>around.)  In response to that, "People's Park activists", most of whom are
>>just bums and thugs who get excited at the chance to do something
>>destructive, held violent protests, looted stores en route of their protest,
>>and smashed campus windows.  Rosebud obviously thought she could solve the
>>problem by harming or killing Chancellor Tien and make herself known as a
>>hero among her fellow "activists."  The fact is, People's Park in Berkeley
>>is the center of crime (drugs, etc.) and filth.  Those "activists" are just
>>bums who are bored and try to find every single excuse to disrupt peace in
>>the Berkeley community.

>Waylon is absolutely wrong here. People's Park is something which is very
>"Berkeley" and is kind of hard to explain to people not familiar with the
>peace movement and Berkeley.  To the casual observer or tourist, the Park
>is a disgusting, smelly locus of causal drug dealing, homelessness, and
>random punks and hippies.  You would think that the Park was taken over
>by these people, and the UC should just get rid of them.
	

	Although I don't see what relevancy this discussion has to s.c.a.a,
I want to shed a bit of light on some inaccuracies here. First of all, Waylon
*is* right in his assessment of the current denizens of Peoples' Park. I am
neither a tourist, a stranger, or a casual observer of the area. '60's ideal-
ism aside, the "park" is currently a filthy cesspool, inhabited by exactly the
types of folks that Waylon describes. While there are some decent, law-
abiding, homeless people there, they are vastly outnumbered by the druggie,
criminal, perennial malcontent faction.

 
>The residents and frequenters of the Park see things completely differently.
>First of all, they distinguish between the drug dealers, the homeless, and
>the activists.  The resident homeless, and nonresident activists would be
>happy to see the drug dealers disappear or move elsewhere.
>. . .  The activists, like
>Rosebud, are the ones with a stake in the Park

	Then why haven't the activists acted in good faith with the University,
the city of Berkeley, and the residents of the area, by moving to create decent
space for homeless people and purging the criminal element, instead of main-
taining a playground for (among other unsavories) crack dealers and (I know
through direct experience) racist skinheads?

.

>Activism in the Park made it a focal point for other activism, and attracted
>people from all over the country to come to the Park to realize their Revo-
>lutionary dreams.  Rosebud was one of these people.


	Rosebud Abigail Denovo was a damned wacko! I followed her antics for
a number of years. She was one of those people who refuse to get a life, and,
therefore, end up losing the one they have. She had a long history of mental
problems relating to an apparent inability to deal with educational authority
figures. She was expelled from her jr. high for threatening and planning to
kill the school principal. She styled herself an anarchist, with the stated
purpose of killing the UCB chancellor and the pope. Last year police discovered
in her encampment the makings for several bombs, and a map of the UC campus.
Her trial for this incident was due to begin shortly. At the home of the chan-
cellor, police found (in addition to her long-knife and machete) a duffel bag
with a note reading, "we're prepared to die for this . . . are you?"
	It seems to me that Ms. Denovo wanted to be a martyr, and she got her
wish. It's sad that this was the only way that saw to give meaning to her 
wretched existence.
"

>>BTW, 200 protesters did protest in response to the "murder" of Rosebud
>>Denovo and guess what they did?  Smashed campus windows!  Threw rocks at the
>>police who tried to stop them from entering UC campus!

>This sounds pretty stupid, but it's typical.  The activists as a lot are
>not notably stupid.  In fact, even some people I know who think they should
>all be hauled off to jail acknowledge that there are many very intelligent
>activists, and as a whole they are smarter than the general population.  The
>fact is, they are smart but incredibly out of touch on some issues.
>Their style is entirely bizzare to many outsiders, but makes a lot of
>sense to fellow revolutionaries or anarchists.


	Well, Rosebud was evidently rather bright. Smarter than the general 
population? Hmmm. Maybe. Didn't get her very far.
	On the issue smashing windows, etc.; at least this time the"activists"
vented their supposed "rage" on their perceived enemy. In the past these idiots
have taken it upon themselves to rampage down Telegraph Ave., smashing the win-
dows of innocent merchants, looting, and setting fires.

>>Hope this clears up things a little.  The main point I am making is that
>>this incidence has nothing to do with sexism or racism as far as I can tell.
>>
>>Wei-Lun Warren Tsai
	
	You're *absolutely* right.


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