From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000/Atari Falcon
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Date: 21 Aug 92 19:46:12 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <1992Aug21.014023.22763@ultb.isc.rit.edu> eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu (E.A. Story ) writes:
> In article <1992Aug20.143959.2210@ctr.columbia.edu> jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
> >heuvdp@cbmnl.nl.so.commodore.com (Paul Heu vd Netherlands) writes:
> >>
> >>Well I would think he is right though. Or do you really think
> >>IBM decided to include MS-DOS and WINDOWS compatibility
> >>because they thought it would be a good feature..
> >>
> >>I would think they did so because they HAVE to be compatible
> >>with those to even sell OS/2 .. So I would call it a
> >>NESSESITY, not a feature..
> >
> >Look up the word "feature".  It means "characteristic".  It doesn't imply
> >anything about desirability.  For example, an crooked nose is a facial feature
> >that's not necessarily desirable.
>
> What the hell are you talking about then?  I could say that AmigaDOS has
> the feature of being able to run 68k binaries... thats a feature that
> OS/2 doesn't have.  You see why you're being involved in this
> discussion?  It pretty obvious that you implied that having DOS/WIndows
> compatibility is a good thing for OS/2 and not having it is a bad thing
> for AmigaDOS.  (Point of fact, ever hear of a bridgeboard?..duh)
>

I'll say it.  Having DOS/Windows compatibility modes IS a great thing for OS/2.
Without it, nobody would use it.  The damn box my OS/2 came in brags about how
it runs DOS and OS/2 programs (to quote):

	Workplace Shell - the new standard for ease of use and simplicity.

	Runs a wide variety of DOS, Windows, and OS/2 applications

	The 32-bit operating system ready for tomorrow's PC hardware and apps

	Superior stability and reliability

	Backed by unmatched IBM service and support

Frankly, the workplace shell is awesome.  A modern and extremely well thought
out GUI.  The inability to run the right DOS/Windows apps (for me) is the only
reason I don't use it.  Also, the ".0" on the end of the version number doesn't
help :)  But IBM IS supporting it, and future versions of OS/2 will be even better.

OS/2 is a bridge between the REAL OS everyone wants and what exists today.  As more
people do OS/2 programs, more people (users) will be using the OS/2 parts.


> Jerry, Frankly I am getting tired of you weaseling out of arguments.
> Hell, someone even PROVED that you stated OS/2 is superior to AmigaDOS
> after you challanged them to try and find the article where it was.  I
> don't really care, and in fact, OS/2 *does* sound like a superior
> operating system.  But either you say something, or you don't.. If you
> can't live with the consequences.. DON'T SAY IT!
>

I side with you on this.  I have NO problem saying I want to run DOS and Windows
Apps.  I am HAPPY to run those apps.  Not having those apps would make OS/2
as worth using as AmigaOS (i.e. not sell very well).  Why Jerry doesn't just
out and say he likes/uses DOS apps is likely his way of not bashing the Amiga
outright.

> You wanna argue semantics?  Argue with a linguist... ok?  Implication is
> everything in this newsgroup.
>

"Hit 'em again, harder, harder.  Hit 'em again, harder, harder"
	- The ENTIRE republican convention while Bush flamed congress

>                                 ---Ezra
>
>
> --
> "THAT is a DRY turtle.  That turtle is NOT moist!"
> Ezra Story, a student at RIT, and
> eas3714@ultb.isc.rit.edu, his trusty(?) mailing address.

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Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
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