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From: metzler@pablo.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Chris Metzler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Can IU go unbeaten?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 18:26:01 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Department of Physics
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In article <1jkqvnINNr47@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:
|> 
|> Every other game or so, you hear Dickie Vitale commenting, "No one will ever
|> go unbee-in in the Big 10 again."  Well, IU is an AMAZING 5-0 in Big 10
|> play, with 13 (?) games to go.
|> 
|> Boy, you know it's a WEAKBig-10 when IU dominates THIS much! ;-)
|> 
|> Mike
|> -- 

They don't dominate that much.  Did you SEE the IU-UM game?  IU is
a great team; right now, they deserve to be ranked #1 in the country
and not Kansas (Did the AP sportswriters forget the drubbing they
got from Michigan recently?).  But I wouldn't say they dominate
the Big-10 THAT much, and I suspect they'll pick up at least one
loss in the Big-10 -- hopefully on February 14 ;)



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From: gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Arizona New Orleans
Date: 24 Jan 93 22:41:15 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


 Arizona went down to the Big Easy and managed to be behind for the first
38 minutes of the game finally grabbing the lead in the last 2 minutes and
holding on for a 3 point win. 

 The game was strange - Olson announced the day before the game that the Cats
would put in all 5 freshmen after about 8 minutes of play in the first half
and let them play out the half no matter what happened - and he did. With
about 8 gone in the half and UNO up by 1 at 19 - 18, Olson put in
Geary, MaClean, Bohanon, Blair, and Williams and they played out the
half with substitutions by Flanagan and that was it. UNO took advantage
of their size with all-american candidate Earvin Johnson getting 9 of his
13 first half points off the kids inside. They did manage to keep it relatively
tight though and the cats went in at the half down by 5. 

 Ed Stokes had another big game outplaying Johnson and ending up with 4 blocks,
2 steals, 20 points and 8 rebounds in only 27 minutes of play! He shut 
down johnson in the second
half completely and allowed Arizona to get back into it a bit at a time. Mills
also played very well with 27 points and 7 rebounds but more importantly
his points came at very key spots including a 3-pointer that gave
Arizona the lead by 1 with less than 2 minutes to play. 

 This was a big game for the cats who have had a tough time on the road in
non-conference play the past two seasons. The officiating was certainly
different from what they see at home or in the pac-10 with some UNO
baskets allowed on continuation plays that would have made an NBA ref blush. 
Clearly, for Arizona fans, Ed Stokes outplaying Johnson was something
to see. He appears very comfortable with his game now and is truly becoming
a force inside both in rebounding and in finishing up the offensive play.
He seems psyched up to play against Haskins next week who has been touted
as the best center in the conference. If Ed is on as he has been for the past
6 games or so I think this should be a good one to watch (which means of 
course that it will follow the usual Pac-10 template and Stokes will have
3 fouls in the first 2 and a half minutes).

 With this week's win over ASU and OSU's loss to WSU, Arizona is in control
of the Pac-10 to some extent. The road-trip to Oregon this coming week is
probably the biggest of the season. If they manage to sweep this trip, then
it will be tough for anyone else to catch them for the title.
From: eastout@ugcs.caltech.edu (Eric A Stout)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: 3 POINT SHOOTERS? Who are they?
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:37:30 GMT
Organization: Caltech Undergraduate Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: molest.ugcs.caltech.edu

In article <82064@hydra.gatech.EDU> (Jeffrey N. Burch) writes:
>From today's papers...
>
>NCAA 3 Point Leaders (by percentage)
>---------------------------------------------
>Gibson, UNLV		30-53		56.6%
>Davis, Middle Tenn	22-40		55.0%
>Anderson, Kent		29-53		54.7%
>Capers, Arizona St	20-37		54.1%
>Peinton, East Tenn	22-41		53.7%
>Witman, W Michigan	42-79		53.2%
>McCaffrey, Vandy	35-66		53.0%
>Ford, Kentucky		35-66		53.0%
>Mills, Arizona		25-48		52.1%
>Ryder, Siena		23-45		51.1%
>

Okay, I'm going to put my nerd hat on for a minute here.  Do these numbers look
funny to any of the economists out there?  I'm not sure I can make my point
coherent here, but it looks to me like these guys should be shooting a consid-
erably larger number of threes than they are right now.  Gibson, for example,
is averaging 1.70 points every time he throws up a three point shot.  Now, I
happen to know that UNLV doesn't average 1.70 points/shot overall, because that
would be they were hitting about 85% of their two-pointers (discount free
throws from this admittedly suspect analysis).  So why doesn't Gibson shoot
more?  Specifically, why doesn't he shoot enough three-pointers such that his
average points/shot are the same as the team average?  What I mean by that is,
presumably as he started shooting more, his percentage would fall at some rate
proportional to the number of shots he jacks up, assuming that he currently
takes only the best available shots.  But until his points/shot fall to the
team average points per shot, the team continues to enjoy a marginal profit
from Gibson jacking up the three.  So, what it suggests to me when guys are
shooting extraordinary percentages (the same reasoning applies to two point
shots, really) is that THEY JUST AREN'T SHOOTING ENOUGH!
But I'm an engineer, not an economist or a college basketball coach...

Eric A. Stout
eastout@ugcs.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: bcperry@eos.ncsu.edu (BRENT COLE PERRY)
Subject: Re: WHAT is a Billican (sp?)?
Originator: bcperry@c00504-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: bcperry@eos.ncsu.edu (BRENT COLE PERRY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:07:25 GMT


kk18@prism.gatech.EDU (Kelly Kenion) writes:

>Okay, I give.  I know there's a school somewhere (in the Northeast?) with a 
>mascot called the Billicans.  I'm not sure if it's spelled like that because
>I've never seen it written.  Can ANYONE give me a clue?  We even went out and
>bought a dictionary this weekend, for cryin' out loud!
>
>Thanks!
>
>-- 
>Kenion, Kelly W.                             GO JACKETS!!!!!!!!!
>Georgia Institute of Technology           
>Atlanta Georgia, 30332           
>Internet: kk18@prism.gatech.edu 

A billiken was a popular (a fad, really) doll back in the other part of the
century.  It was supposed to bring you good luck, especially if you stole
it.  How St. Louis U. got this nickname I can't remember (I have a book
with the stories behind about 300 Division I schools).

--Brent
From: quay@engin.umich.edu (bryan scott luedy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Can IU go unbeaten?
Date: 24 Jan 1993 05:36:00 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lucky.engin.umich.edu

In article <C1BzAx.2LB@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> devo@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Dan) writes:
>
>How does this look for final standings:
>
>17-1 IU, Michigan
>9-9  The middle 7
>1-17 Penn State and Northwestern ( actually they may several out of
>     9-9 category).
>
>How are they going to pick the NCAA lot???



Road wins, my man, road wins!

--
Bryan.Luedy@um.cc.umich.edu
--

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,psu.sports
From: jdh@math.psu.edu (Jeremy D Hall)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION ALL PENN STATERS-IMPORTANT!!!
Organization: Penn State Department of Mathematics
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:53:55 GMT

In article <exby.728080700@spot.Colorado.EDU> exby@spot.Colorado.EDU (Doc Exby) writes:
><AER107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>>Mr. Exby, I have a serious question for you.  Have you actually ever gone to
>>a top 25 women's basketball game.  I suppose that the answer is obviously "no."
>
>you are right, the answer is:
>no - it's too boring to waste my money on.  or time.

As far as the "money" issue, it's FREE to students here at Penn State.  
>
>>If you had, you would be much more moderate.  In the very off chance that you
>
>moderate?  me ? who says?
>
>>lack of dunks since they show supremacy by scoring points, or maybe the fact
>>that you don't need to be 6' 8" to be a good player?  Incidentally, you're not
>
>yeah scores of layups off the glass, and relatively slow footspeed
>leads to a real exciting game.  whew.

If I wanted to see dunk after dunk, I'd follow the NBA.  Then again, the team
from Colorado, the Denver Nuggets, was about as exciting as watching mold
form the last time I knew...

>
>>even as tall as Lady Lion Tina Henry.  You really ought to know what you're
>>talking about before you blast something.
>
>hm, does that mean she won't go out with me if I ask her?    ;-)
>or do i need the BabeMaster(tm) stamp of approval first?
>

Come to think of it, you're only as tall as Missy Masley.  Of course, for all
we know, you're 4' 11" and dead jealous.  :^)

>>AER107@PSUVM.psu.edu
>>P.S. Colorado has the #7 team in the country.  You could find out without even
>>having to go far.
>
>no - it's too boring to waste my money on.  or time.
>
See above.

>::j
>
>     Bastion of truth and justice
>.....................................
>-=====-                        -=====-
>  -=-   exby@spot.Colorado.EDU   -=-
>   -                              -
>-- 
>::j
>
>     Bastion of truth and justice
>....................................

Notice, of course that he has to tell you TWICE that he's the bastard...oops,
"bastion" of truth and justice.  :^)

-Jeremy Hall
-Penn State Univ.
jdh@math.psu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: National POTY
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 26 Jan 93 12:30:45 CST

In article <1993Jan26.152144.51528@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:
>
>(Actually, if we look at it as to which player has had the greatest impact
>on their teams success...
>
>	Glenn Robinson of Purdue ... With him, a top 20 team, without him,
>	Big Ten Basement...)

I disagree; having Robinson around has made the other players not work as
hard (except for Painter, who seems to be playing about as well as he's
capable of).  Purdue would be doing this year what they did many years in
the past when they had little talent - winning the ugly games.  They
probably would have lost 2 pre-conference games, but I bet you their Big 10
record would be no different.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado)
Subject: Re: Good refs?
Organization: Florida State University Department of Know-it-alls
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 18:15:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.095712.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> ghjelmstad@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>looking for  good refs?
>
>Watch  Lenny "He's a horses ass" Wirtz and "You suck" Dick Paparo...
>Both ACC and considered among the best in the NCAA

Wow, thanks!!! Best laugh I've had ALL YEAR!!!

>
>They may not always make the right call, but they'll do it with gusto, are 
>always in control of the game.  
>    
>"Eric Montross looks like he got his head caught in the vego-matic"           


Kevin (who thinks it should be Lenny "Liver" Wirtz)
From: grundusk@sunflare.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Kevin Grunduski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: North Carolina #1 ... :-(
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:17:11 GMT
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

In article <93026.110300JJB146@psuvm.psu.edu>, JJB146@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
|> 
|>  Ouch!! It looks like it's true! If it wasn't for a fluke basket by Jalen Rose
|> UNC would be undefeated. Carolina is truly playing the best basketball in the
|> nation, they've played some of the best teams in the country, and have one all
|> but one game. The way they are playing is reminiscent of Duke's no-one-can-
|> touch-us style from last year. Let's face it, Dookies, Hoosiers, Wolverines,
|> Wildcats, and Jayhawks alike, Dean has THE TEAM TO BEAT.
|>                                                         -jim
|>          ************************************************
|>          * PSU-Hazleton  |  Go Duke!   |    Jim Bonczek *
|>          * JJB146@      / Dean's got 1, \ psuvm.psu.edu *
|>          *            /  Mike's got 2!!!  \             *
|>          ************************************************

Yeah, but the beloved Wolvies already beat them.
-- 
Kevin Grunduski

GO BLUE !!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Wisconsin beats Ohio State!!!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 21 Jan 93 10:22:17 CST

In article <C16xnH.2E9@cs.uiuc.edu> ksmith@swine.cs.uiuc.edu (Ken Smith) writes:
>
>Shoot.  The whole Big 10 knows better than to expect road victories!
>Indiana just squeaked past the Illini at Illinois, and they represent
>opposite ends of the Big 10 this year.

Boy, you sure don't have a high opinion of the Illini.  I kind of figured
they have a good shot at an upper-division finish this year.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: UK & in-state players (was: #1 UK/Vandy thoughts
Organization: Austerlitz, Gershovitz, and Carmichael
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:44:02 GMT


>>There are lots of us who'd like to see him go after in-state players
>>a little more.  If he can ever grab a player from Louisville away
>>from UofL...   :-)
>
For the record, UK is giving a point guard at Marion Co. a 2nd and 3rd
look. (Can't remember his name) But unless Mashburn goes pro, there
really won't be a place for him. [Not that he's going to stay, but
his shot selection this year has been terrible...all those shots blocked
by itty-bitty guys: pro scouts notice such things. Can you say Waymon
Tisdale? Stacey King? Other can't miss pro forwards...in case you've
forgotten.].
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> U.P. OR BUST!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: re: Okay Dookies fill me in
From: ghjelmstad@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:08:47 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

Coach K has scheduled back to back games every year...
Bottom line is to find out just what the team has got.  From a coaches 
point of view, it certainly helps in March to know what your team can (and 
cannot) achieve.

Any team in the country would trade a loss in March for a loss in January.
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Big Ten Update (1-28-93)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 22:30:45 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Keywords: Big Ten

>ILLINOIS 80, Wisconsin 72:  Deon Thomas led Illinois to a home victory
>	with 23 points and 11 rebounds.  

   With Damon Harrell, Grant Johnson and Jeff Petersen in the post, I
   think Badger fans can expect to see talented big men whup up on UW
   all year.

>	UW even managed to get
>	within three at one point before Illinois salted it away at the
>	end.  Andy Kaufmann managed to get himself ejected from this
>	game, via two technicals.  A local radio personality this morning
>	called it "a sad day for Illinois basketball".  The first one
>	came when Kaufmann got mugged and a jump ball was called.  He
>	stormed away and flung his gum into the bench.  The second came
>	when he was at the stripe, ready to shoot a free throw.  He
>	apparently mouthed off to a Badger standing along the lane.
>	
   In today's Journal it said that Tracy Webster and Kaufman had a running
   dialogue throughout the game. "He told me to kiss his white behind,"
   Webster said of Kaufman. "No one was really saying anything until that
   little incident." 

   Before Kaufman's remark, Webster had said something to his teammates,
   "I said `Come one fellas, we're going to come back because he's (Kaufman)
   going to shoot them out of the game.' He (Kaufman) got upset. But he didn't
   have to say anything like that."

   Kaufman, who shook Webster's hand after the game, said, "We're playing on
   our home court. I figured I'm not going to let people come in here and
   punch us around."

   Sounds like typical trash talking to me and not that big of a deal. Maybe
   Kaufman didn't have to say his "white" behind, but I'm sure Webster wasn't
   all that shocked. Still, I'll look forward to the rematch in Madison.

   --salty


	Wisconsin's rally began after the latter.  Michael Finley led
>	UW with 30 points...
>
From: jih@acpub.duke.edu (JOY HOGLEY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Can Dookies read?
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:36:14 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.


I think that probably most of us can -

However, your subject line does prove that Berkeley students cannot
spell.


;-)


Joy
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: jframe@unlv.edu (Jason Frame)
Subject: UNLV 96... Georgetown 80
Organization: UNLV
  Well the title says it all, but the score definately does not
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 00:23:02 GMT

   J.R. Rider led all scorers with 40 points, and Dedan Thomas dished
out 12 assists.  When I get further stats I will post them if anyone
is concerned.  Othello Harrington had 20 points for the Hoyas in the
losing effort.
   
   With the win, The Rebels move up to 13-1 for the year. 

----Jason
jframe@unlv.edu


Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: arritter@helix.nih.gov (Alice R. Ritter)
Subject: Re: ACC UPDATE & SUMM'S (1-22-92)
Reply-To: arritter@helix.nih.gov (Alice R. Ritter)
Organization: National Institutes of Health
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:46:42 GMT

Wake has 2 ROAD wins (against Maryland & Tech), not 2 home wins,
although that may change Sunday against Clemson.
alice ritter
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: rga@rti.rti.org
Subject: Re: February 3, 1993
Organization: Research Triangle Institute, RTP, NC
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 17:06:26 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.223421.2711@rti.rti.org> rga@rti.rti.org writes:
>In article <8869@news.duke.edu> fls@econ.duke.edu (Forrest Smith) writes:
>>
>>	No need to elaborate.
>>-- 
>>   __  __                                     
>>  |__ |__                             %  
>>  | |  __|  fls@keynes.econ.duke.edu  %  See what the bears in the
>>    |__                               %  back room will have.
>
>Gee, I hope this doesn't mean that Duke is looking ahead to the
>TarHeel game :)
>
>Randy
>

Somehow this post didn't come out as intended ;) Sorry.
The missing data is : Feb. 3, 1992 (Date of UNC vs. Duke @ Duke).

Randy
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com (Joe Sterbenc)
Subject: Lou gets 600...Illini lightheaded?
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:50:20 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.college

Well, I wonder how the Illini are feeling. The rarified air up at second
place in the conference (well, tied with the Wolverines) is probably a
little too thin for these guys, and Saturday's game at Crisler should
help them recover. Dammit.

The orange and blue are currently +1 for the season (2 road wins, 1
home loss), and are actually in pretty good shape to make the dance.
Unlike last year. If they backslide to below .500 in conference, though,
they may need their last nonconference game to get in - a game looking
tougher and tougher as Pitt shreds quality teams left and right.

This week's games aren't all that important; it doesn't take a
genius to predict beating Penn Stata at home and losing at Ann Arbor.
The season will be made or broken at Wisconsin, at Minnesota, hosting
Iowa, etc etc. I think U of I can still go 10-8 for the season, which
would surprise a lot of people....

=====
Joe Sterbenc - Intelligent Vehicle Highway Systems - Motorola
All opinions are my own, but can be rented for reasonable rates
sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com
=====
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: UMASS beats DePaul
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 24 Jan 93 17:50:27 CST

In article <1jv1oaINNa1m@nic.umass.edu> JKC@UCSVAX.UCS.UMASS.EDU (JON KEVIN CROCKER) writes:
>In <1juuktINNluv@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
>
>> Arizona St came in with their star player injured (DNP), and they played with
>> UofL for about 10 minutes then gave up.  Rozier was a force in this game, the Arizona St players could not rebound
>> with him (20pts/10+rebs).
>> 
>> Louisville pushes its record to 9-5 (4-0), winning 7 of their last 8 games.
>> The next game is at Virginia Tech on Thursday (Metro conference game).

Gee, I see nothing about the UMASS!!! game.  I guess they don't teach the
UMASS!!! VAX USERS how to use their news posting programs.  I guess I
should expect this from a campus that doesn't recognize small letters.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: wdsst3@cislabs.pitt.edu (William D Sands)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Clearing up misconceptions about CSLB
Summary: Clear up one more, OK?
Keywords: CSLB and/or LBS
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:07:39 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <matthew.728071969@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>
>CSLB lost to VCU by 34 three days ago (two days before playing at Kansas).

	I just left that in, since I went to VCU.  Sorry.

	My question - You and most other people from the West,
including a friend of mine from USC, refer to these cats as
CSLB (Cal. State Long Beach), while everyone else, including
CNN and ESPN, calls them Long Beach State.  The name by which
one refers to them as is not too important - but there seems
to be some confusion - is there another school in CA
which could be confused with the one that had a team in Kansas
the other night, such that the name "Long Beach St." is not used out 
there, so as NOT to be confused with a school that the rest of us are 
unaware?  Any answers?  Have I confused anybody?

						-Bill S.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: K-Who?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:06:30 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

So I guess Roy Williams is still on his way to UNC?

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