HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joe Cain)
Subject: OW3.0 questions
Summary: colors from mail? news breaks cmdtool
Organization: Florida State University Geology Dept.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 16:11:43 GMT

	My son in Colorado has been recently sending me weird escape
codes via mail that end up as garbage on mailtool but lead to colored
text, bold, flashing, etc when I access them via a PC and PROCOMM.
Does anyone know how to map such codes so the mailtool (or other
windows) respond as would a PC?

	I also note that when I read news from a cmdtool, the
scrollbar frequently disappears so I have to kill that window for
future use. 

Joseph Cain		cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu
cain@fsu.bitnet		scri::cain
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: scm@aiware.in-berlin.de (Harald Schmidt)
Subject: XView for ISC 2.2?
Summary: x11
Keywords: xview
Organization: AIware
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 01:48:54 GMT

Hallihallo,

does anybody knows if there exist a port of XView
for InterActive UNIX 3.2 Version 2.2 of higher.

I am runnig ISC 2.2.1 with X11R5pl12.

Any informations are wellcome :-)

Gru"s,
	Harald
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Question about quitting ol(v)wm
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:07:25 GMT

There are two questions I think here.  I can talk a little bit about the
first - someone else will have to discuss that BadValue error.


In article <26661@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jschamba@na35.lbl.gov (Jo Schambach) writes:
:Hi,
:I seem to have a problem when quitting my OPENLOOK session on a SUN. First the
:olvwm, I get the following output on my console:
:
:-----
:XIO:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) on X server ":0.0"
:      after 216 requests (206 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
:      The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or KillClient.
:xterm:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server ":0.0"

xterm is a very old client.  Some very old clients - and some new ones
whose authors used very old clients as models - do not catch the events
generated by most R4 or newer window managers as a part of shutdown.  There
are a few lines of code which I unfortunately don't have handy but which
can be added to xterm so that it handles the KillClient request.  Or, you
could get the X11R5 source and compile it on OW 3.0.
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Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3962 alt.toolkits.xview:907
From: fromme@ipc1.rrzn.uni-hannover.de (Michael Fromme)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,alt.toolkits.xview,hannover.comp.sun.sug
Subject: Drag and drop
Summary: A question about dnd and UIT
Keywords: dnd, UIT
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:29:30 GMT
Organization: RVS, Universitaet Hannover, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Hello.

A simple program should just send the filename, when the cursor is dragged
upon textedit or another drop target (Sun OS 4.1.2). 

Sample code from the drag-source (UIT):

case DRAG_CONVERT:
       int format;
       unsigned long length;
       Atom type;
       UICGeneric data;
       droptarget -> getDragConvertData(type, data, length, format);

       Selection_owner sel = object -> getDragConvertSelection ();
       Xv_server server = XV_SERVER_FROM_WINDOW(xv_get(sel, XV_OWNER));
       if (type == (Atom) xv_get(server, SERVER_ATOM, "FILE_NAME")) {
         object -> setDragFileName("sample.file.name");
       }
       fprintf (stderr, "DragConvert (%s)\n",
              (char *) xv_get(server, SERVER_ATOM_NAME, type));
       break;

and the result:

DragConvert (_SUN_FILE_HOST_NAME)
DragConvert (NAME)
DragConvert (_SUN_ALTERNATE_TRANSPORT_METHODS)
DragConvert (FILE_NAME)
DragConvert (_SUN_DATA_LABEL)
DragConvert (_SUN_ENUMERATION_COUNT)
DragConvert (_SUN_LOAD)
DragConvert (STRING)

The textedit window does not accept my drop-action, while a self made 
UIT program what uses getDragFileName etc. to get the information, does.

The XView Prog. Man. does not cover the conversion process in detail and the
targets _SUN_* are not mentioned.


What is the correct response to a DRAG_CONVERT result? Obviously calling
setDragConvertData, but what parameters?

Is there further documentation?

What am I missing?


Thanks,
	Michael

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Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:4047 comp.lang.lisp:2596
From: bam+@cs.cmu.edu (Brad Myers)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.lang.lisp
Subject: Lisp for PC
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:23:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.BvpMz3.Gqw.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


You usually see requests here for Free Lisps on PCs, which is well-covered
by the FAQ, but I want to know the 

	* BEST AND FASTEST LISP FOR THE PC under Unix and X/11

It doesn't matter so much what the cost is, I just need 
a really fast lisp.  486 machines can run C programs that use X/11 about as
fast as a SPARC 1, but are there optimized Lisps that run as fast on a PC 
as on a SPARC?  How well do graphics work through CLX?

Any leads and especially experience from users will be appreciated.  I will
summarize to the net.

Brad A. Myers
School of Computer Science
Carnegie Mellon University
5000 Forbes Avenue
Pittsburgh, PA  15213-3890
(412) 268-5150
FAX: (412) 681-5739
bam@a.gp.cs.cmu.edu
From: nh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (nicholas.hounsome)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: OW3.0 questions
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:12:24 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From article <1992Oct5.161143.20496@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, by cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu (Joe Cain):
> 	My son in Colorado has been recently sending me weird escape
> codes via mail that end up as garbage on mailtool but lead to colored
> text, bold, flashing, etc when I access them via a PC and PROCOMM.
> Does anyone know how to map such codes so the mailtool (or other
> windows) respond as would a PC?

Windows will probably all respond differently (and none are likely 
to do what you want). 

> 
> 	I also note that when I read news from a cmdtool, the
> scrollbar frequently disappears so I have to kill that window for
> future use. 
> 

Have you tried using the menu available anywhere in the cmdtool to
reenable scrolling? (press right mouse button) (It wont work whilst
in any program that uses cursor controls). If you are in trouble when
the scroll bar reappears hit CTRL-RETURN a few times.

> Joseph Cain		cain@geomag.gly.fsu.edu
> cain@fsu.bitnet		scri::cain
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Loading into the clipboard
From: cjw@dme.nt.gov.au
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:57:12 +0900
Reply-To: cjw@dme.nt.gov.au
Distribution: world
Organization: Northern Territory Department of Mines & Energy

I am using Openwindows 3, and would like to know if there
is there some way of loading data from a file into the
clipboard from a shell. I can use 'xv_get_sel > foo' to
get the currently highlighted text into foo, but want to
put pre-determined text (code headers actually) into
the clipboard. This would enable me to make a menu
selection to choose which text file i wanted, and then
point into the shelltool/textedit/whatever, and hit the
'Paste' button. The text would then appear in the window.

Can anyone suggest how this might done ?

All comments apreciated.

	-Chris.


-----------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Wharton    cjw@celeste.dme.nt.gov.au      Darwin, Australia
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 12:46:23 pdt
From: mattb@ssc-vax.boeing.com (Matt Baney)
Subject: Re: How to get a selected string from a panel_list ?

	From: fgreco@fis1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco)
	To: mattb@ssc-vax (Matt Baney)
	Subject: Re: How to get a selected string from a panel_list ?
	> >
	> >we've seen a lot of answers to this, and still nobody's
	> >come up with the PANEL_LIST_FIRST_SELECTED and PANEL_
	> >LIST_NEXT_SELECTED attributes....
	> >
	> ><<tank
	> >
	> 
	> What are they??  Do they exist?  Are they documented??  What do they
	> do??  Or are these just some more of the undocumented
	> "features/enhancements/bugs" in XVIEW?
	
	>	They're in your O'Reilly XVRM 3.0 book on pages 92 and 94.  They
	>	are also available via Answerbook 1.3+
	>	I'd say that's documented, wouldn't you?
That would be documented if I had access to an XVRM 3.0 book?? :(
	
	>	Perhaps you're using the much, much older 2.0 version of XView?
No, I'm using the newer 3.0 version of XView, but I'm trying to
debug it with the much, much older 2.0 documentation.  It's sure
wonderful working for a company that refuses to waste money on such
mundane items as current documentation. :)  
(Sorry, for the griping)

Thanks for the help!!

Matt B

	
	
	
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: euamol@eua.ericsson.se (Mats Larsson)
Subject: Re: disabling auto placement of windows
Reply-To: euamol@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 07:47:23 GMT

In article lcn3mtINNolc@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM, brentb@montagne.Eng.Sun.COM (Brent Browning) writes:
>In article y82d4t3@openlook.Unify.Com, fgreco@fis1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco) writes:
>>> > As far as I know, interactive geometry and placement are not specified as
>>> > user interface options in open look and so the window managers do not 
>>> > supply those features.
>>> 
>>	Use olvwm.  Here's part of the man page.
>
>   Or V3 olwm, unfortunately you can't specify the position for the box:

Here's another part of the man page (olvwm 3.2).

     ResizeMoveGeometry (X geometry string or the word center)
          This resource only has an  effect  if  ShowMoveGeometry
          and/or  ShowResizeGeometry is set to True.  This string
          specifies the location of the geometry box when  it  is
          displayed;  it  should be given as an X geometry string
          (wxh+x+y) although the width and height are ignored  if
          specified.   If you want the box to be centered regard-
          less of your monitor resolution, use the string  center
          instead of a geometry string.  Default value: +0+0

>     ShowMoveGeometry (boolean)
>          Indicates whether the  geometry  box  should  be  shown
>          while moving windows and icons.  Default value: false.
> 
>     ShowResizeGeometry (boolean)
>          Indicates whether the  geometry  box  should  be  shown
>          while resizing windows.  Default value: false.



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Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3975 comp.sys.sun.apps:2109
From: jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: OW3 version of dbxtool
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:34:43 GMT
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Language Analysis Center

In article <1992Sep23.143031.17375@bnr.ca> webster@bnr.ca writes:
> Is there an OpenWindows 3.0 version of dbxtool?
> If so, where can I get it.

I prefer the generic xdbx available from a number of FTP sites.  Not as
pretty, but it does the job (for the most part...).

Kevin


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From: anit@sonitech.com (Anit Kumar)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: XVIEW/OPENOOK problem
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:48:35 GMT



Experiencing following problems using Xview 3.0/ OPENLOOK.
----------------------------------------------------------

    1. CANVAS SCROLLING :      

	 In my program I don't want to keep my canvas size equal to object size 
	 because :
	 	a. object size is very large 
		b. Object size can not be assumed fixed any where in the program. 

	 Instead I would prefer to have a canvas size equal to its base window and 
         if user clicks the scroll-bar, the contents should be scrolled (up/down) 
	 and new area can be painted using repaint-procedure.  

	 Is there any built-in function which scrolls the contents of canvas?


     2.  USING CURSOR IN CANVAS :
	
	 I am using canvas to display and  edit text. I want to use the cursor 
	 ( Not the mouse cursor or pointer but insertion point as used in 
	   TEXTSW package). 

	 I tried implementing cursor by saving and restoring image rectangle 
	 ( using Xlib function XGetImage and XPutImage) as the cursor moves. 

	 But this method is not acceptable because it is not efficient. 
	 Our program does lot of processing  and this function is called a 
	 number of times either by user actions or internally generated events. 
	 

	 
If any one knows any built-in-functions from Xview/Xlib which can do the above said 
tasks? Does any one have better ideas for these problems? 

Your help will be highly appreciated. Forward all your replies to:

	anit@sonitech.com

Thanks in anticipation.
From: honig@aster.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Re: How to use Ansic compiler in Makefile of Devguide
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:38:13 GMT

 u8903845@cs.uow.edu.au (Anil Sachdeva) writes:
>Hi
>
>If some body could help me with this simple novice question .
>Devguide had produced a Makefile for my interface .
>I want to use the Ansi C compiler rather than the cc .
>Could somebody send me his very simple Makefile produced by Devguide .
>
>Thanks in Advance
>
>email
>
>u8903845@cs.uow.edu.au


I add the following to the beginning of the DG generated Makefile:


# This file was generated by `gxv' from `teche.G'.  (for project TECHE)

# define files I don't want deleted..
TECHE_STUFF = teche_defs.h teche_procs.c Makefile

.PRECIOUS: $(TECHE_STUFF)



teche_stubs.c: $(TECHE_STUFF)
		touch teche_stubs.c

# this line tells make to use the compiler you specify
CC = gcc  -ansi


# Parameters.

PROGRAM = teche
SOURCES.c =
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Looking for resource lists
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:22:00 GMT

In article <KOVERBER.92Sep29110944@cs.ulowell.edu> koverber@cs.ulowell.edu (Kurt Overberg) writes:
:
:Hi, 
:
:and I am wondering what resources can be set for OpenLook from within 
:the .Xdefaults file.  I also want to know if I can set key and mouse 

OpenLook doesn't have resources.  Various window managers have resources;
XView toolkit has resources; OLIT has resources; the other OpenLook implementing
toolkit has resources, and OpenLook compliant tools have resources.

There is no comprehensive list of which I am aware.  Sometimes it seems like
it might be nice to have one ...  

I don't have doc for the various toolkits handy , but I know for instance
there is a section 7 man page on xview that lists the public resources
for XView based tools.  I also know that olwm and olvwm detail their
resources relatively well.  There is a section 7 man page for X11 that
appears to document some resources and flags one might expect to find when
using Athena based commands.  Anyone else have some other common places
to find resources?


:actions (Alt+MouseButton1  to  move_window, etc.) is this possible

Not with OpenLook, but with the olvwm window manager you can do some types
of these things.  

:with OpenLook?  I would also be interested in removing certain decorations
:of clients from olwm.  Example: have the xlock come up with no title, etc.

Hmm - you probably don't want to use THAT example - xlock doesn't come up
with a title does it?  There isn't any ability to remove 'levels' of
decor, but if you read the man page for the window manager that you are
using, there should be some remarks about how to tell the window manager
not to decorate a particular window.  If not, perhaps it is time for a
new window manager ;-).

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: al@netcom.com (Al)
Subject: Actions and Translations!!! Who's got 'em????  (Help!)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 21:06:06 GMT

(Disclaimer... if this info is in the FAQ, perhaps someone could send me a 
copy ??   I've looked back through the newsgroup history but can't seem
to get before message # 6100~, even after modifying my .newsrc file)

I was wondering whether there was a published list of the default translations
and actions for all the OpenLook widgets -- specifically as implemented by
Sun in OLIT.

I am trying to add the following ...

char *sel_uns_trans = "<Btn1Down>:notify() set()";

to an OblongButton widget.  This is what I percieve would be the correct change
in Athena to make a Command widget notify upon Btn1Down as well as Btn1Up.
However, I realized that nowhere could I locate a list of official actions
and translations such as are listed for Athena widgets in the O'Reilly series.
(God bless them).

al
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x,alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.x.intrinsics
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Distribution: world
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 09:18:12 PDT
From: sinan@Mtesol.boeing.com (Sinan Karasu)
Subject: motif ==> XView | OpenLook converter.

Hi,
I am looking for a tool that will do the dirty part
of converting a motif based program to an
OpenLook or XView based program.Something
like the one Sun Supplies for a SunView 
to XView converter. Does anybody have any
suggestions ?
Sinan
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: disabling auto placement of windows
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 11:24:05 GMT

Actually, olwm AND olvwm 3.x provide the geometry sizing (and move coordinate)
indicators, if the user supplies the resource appropriately.  The resource
names, etc. are in the man pages.


As far as I know, interactive geometry and placement are not specified as
user interface options in open look and so the window managers do not 
supply those features.
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Xref: sparky comp.windows.open-look:3965 comp.sys.sun.apps:2078
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: OW3 version of dbxtool
Keywords: dbxtool OW3_deliberately_crippled
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:26:53 GMT
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Distribution: na
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <mdelaney.717637122@helios> mdelaney@informix.com (Unix Dude) writes:
<In <340@ftms.UUCP> brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
<
<>Just copy your OW2.0 version of dbxtool over to the machine that is running
<>OW3.0.  It will work as well as it ever did :-)
<
<Was this a joke?  It was hard to tell what your :-) was referring to 
<(as in did dbxtool ever work well).  I tried running the OW2.0 version
<of dbxtool with the OW3.0 libraries and it was hosed.  It looks like 
<the joke was on us... thanx Sun :-(

Someone else had mentioned in the past that he used the 2.0 dbxtool while
running OW3.0.  But I don't know if he did what you did.

The :-) was for the how well it used to work statement.  The 2.0 version had
a real chance of being locked up.  I then had to rlogin into the system and
kill off the dbxtool that the person was using.  It didn't take much for the
user to lock up dbxtool.  Once they (the programmers) learn the sequence of
how it could be locked, it was avoided (the sequences) as much a possible.

Sun didn't supply the dbxtool with OW3.0, because they no longer supply the
compilers for Solaris.  But, 4.1.x isn't Solaris 2.0 and the compilers are
still available.  I haven't figured out the logic of that either.  But, we
ordered the reduced price compiler tools for C.  I suggest that you get the
new compiler on order before 9/30/92 as well.  For $895 (SunExpress), the
price is hard to beat and you get the compiler, debugging stuff (SPARCworks)
for both 4.1.x and Solaris 2.0.
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From: jschamba@na35.lbl.gov (Jo Schambach)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Question about quitting ol(v)wm
Date: 6 Oct 1992 01:03:42 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.252.87

Hi,
I seem to have a problem when quitting my OPENLOOK session on a SUN. First the
background: I am using OPENWINDOWS 3 on a SPARCstation 2 with SUNOS 4.1.2. My
window manager is olvwm (from June 92). I am using SUN's deskset tools and MIT's
xterm's, xman's, and other tools together. When I use the "EXIT" menu item of
olvwm, I get the following output on my console:

-----
XIO:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) on X server ":0.0"
      after 216 requests (206 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
      The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or KillClient.
xterm:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) or KillClient on X server ":0.0"
aborting for post-mortem ...
olvwm: Warning, X Error: BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)
  Request Major code: 113
  Request Minor code: 0
  ResourceId 0xb00064
-----

After logging back in, I notice that a "core" file was created. I am not sure by
whom or what, but I assume by olvwm. What am I doing wrong?

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