From: forda@gtephx.UUCP (Andrew Ford @ AGCS, Phoenix, Arizona)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.elections,talk.abortion,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: rights and responsibilities
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:54:52 GMT
Organization: gte

> In article <1992Sep28.163907.22679@meaddata.com> johnt@meaddata.com (John Townsend) writes:
> 
> >legalization of abortion caused any significant reduction in the number of
> >women's deaths due to complications from abortion, when in fact the numbers
> >are nearly the same (I can get these if you wish). 

Yes, do.  But please remember to break out those back-room abortion deaths
from the clinic & hospital deaths (today, any woman would prefer a clinic
to the back room, if she can afford it -- and since you mention the federal
support of abortion, this is a very important distinction).  Methinks you'll
find that clinic and hospital abortion related deaths are almost non-existant.
(Oh, except for those abortions which are performed because the mother's life
is in danger --- she's already close to dying and banning abortion will only
increase those deaths.)

> > Furthermore, several
> >surveys, including one by Planned Parenthood, confirm that at least 90% of
> >women who have abortions do so not by choice, but because they believe they
> >are forced to.  That is, they would rather carry the baby to term, but for
> >financial or circumstantial reasons are compelled to abort it.  If only the
> >abortion just wouldn't be an issue.

Financial reasons: they can't afford to feed and clothe the child.

Circumstantial reasons: (1)they're barely feeding and clothing the four
    children they have and a fifth would deprive the four *born* children.
    (2) 2 more years of college and she'll be able to afford raising a child
    whereas having the child means no college and no real income for the rest
    of her life and the child's life.

Basically, women don't like abortion but find themselves faced with bringing
into this world a child they cannot raise, so the opt to not bring more pain
and suffering to the world.

> >By the way, the issue in this Presidential election is not whether or not to
> >have legalized abortion; it is whether or not to require taxpayers to foot the
> >bill for it.  

No, taxpayers are footing the bill for entirely too many single mothers and
their children.  Outlawing aborting will only increase the bill -- what's 
more expensive 1 abortion or 18 years of AFDC/food stamps/WIC?

> >Over 1.5 million abortions are now performed annually in the
> >U.S. -- how many do you think there will be when it's "free" (i.e. cheaper
> >than a condom)?
> 
The emotional trauma of abortion is far more expensive than a condom (but far 
less than the trauma of watching your children grow up in poverty).

One more question -- most all of the pro-lifers are willing to permit
abortions if the woman was raped or incest was involved:
If the fetus is a person, then what difference does it make how it
was conceived?  Did it choose to be conceived by rape?



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