HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Backed into
Organization: Lachman Technology, Incorporated, Naperville, IL
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:54:50 GMT

In article <Stafford-220193142454@stafford.winona.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
>In article <C19K1C.8oL.1@cs.cmu.edu>, jfriedl@TUBBY.MACH.CS.CMU.EDU
>(Jeffrey Friedl) wrote:
>> 
>> molenda@i9.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda) writes:
>> |> The first time I crashed my CB750F this summer....
>> |> Luckily, I crashed a month or so later and ....
>> 
>> This brings up The Question ....  (drum roll).....
>> 
>> 	``So, why do you crash so much?''
>
>Because he's got the guts to push the envelope. He
>rides with state-of-the-art-hyper-bikes and still
>keeps up!


Keeps up?  He just said we went down!
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              Lachman Technology, Incorporated
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
 __       There's nothing quite like the pitter-patter of little feet,
 \/                   followed by the words "Daddy!  Yay!"
From: rmugele@oracle.com (Robert Mugele)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: homebrew truck ramps?
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:27:44 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, CA
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              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <6001@catnip.berkeley.ca.us> bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Abscess makes the fart go HONDA) writes:

<   Has anyone here homebrewed a ramp that they can easily carry in their
<   truck that lets them ride/walk a bike up into the back of their
<   pickup?  I can put my bike in the back if I have another strong
<   adult, but it's a bit much to manage myself.
<   -- 

I made a ramp using a 2x12 board of the appropriate length.  I nailed 
a 2x4 along each of the sides to provide raised edges.    I also
nailed a 1x1 piece on the bottom of one of the short sides of the
plank; this provides me with a lip so the ramp can hook over the edge
of the bumper on my VAN. 

It works for me.
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Bob Mugele                            214-401-5875
Senior Computational Linguist         Oracle Corporation
Linguistic Technology Group           5221 N. O'Connor Suite 1400
                                      Irving, TX  75039
EMAIL: rmugele@oracle.com
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jwenger@ulci06.unil.ch ()
Subject: Re: Moto rental in France
Reply-To: jwenger@ulci06.unil.ch ()
Organization: University of Lausanne - CH (Switzerland)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:43:18 GMT


In article <C16A0t.LM2@synoptics.com>, noemi@synoptics.com (Noemi Berry) writes:

|>with much searching, i was never able to find a bike rental in
|>france, just Germany.  someone in Dijon told me that there were
|>rentals available in Paris and Lyons, but i never found any.
|>however, this was in August, when 40% of the country is on vacation.
|>
|>one *very* confusing point is how to say "rental" in French.
|>there is: "moto de l'occasion" and "moto d'occasion".  one
|>means "used motorcycle" and the other means "motorcycle for
|>rent" (can't remember which!).  it is impossible to distinguish
|

No surprise you could not find a rental bike in France!
A rental bike is a "moto de location", and what the outfit renting it
does is "location de moto".
btw, I doubt rental agencies are closed in august, as they do most
of their business during summer time...

With best regards,

					Jacques
From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Nationalized Lawyers  was Re: pitch for nat'l health, was: etc
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:56:30 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Chris Pirih (chrispi@microsoft.com) wrote:
: In rec.motorcycles npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) writes:
: ;Hey, in this (admittedly small in comparison and strange in behaviour) we have
: ;a wonderful postal service and a good National Health Service (I speak from
: ;my own experiences).
: ;
: ;So what's the problem?  Bad at organising?  Social Responsibility a little
: ;difficult to grasp?

: No, Americans are just not nearly as good at being force-fed
: fecal matter and begging for more as are Brits.

: It's something about the difference between "citizens" and 
: "subjects" I guess.

: ---
: chris
: oh boy, am i gonna get flamed now...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

LISTEN!  YOU SHIT-FOR-BRAINS LITTLE DWEEB!  NEXT TIME YOU GET TURNED AWAY FROM
A HOSPITAL FOR NOT HAVING PAID YOUR INSURANCE AND ARE LEFT TO DIE IN THE GUTTER
BECAUSE NOBODY GIVES A TOSS ABOUT EACH OTHER IN YOUR PATHETIC EXCUSE OF AN
EXPERIMENTAL COUNTRY, PONDER A WHILE ABOUT THE MARVELS OF A NATIONAL HEALTH
SERVICE!  Over here, you can pay for additional services which amount to queue
jumping and a telly in your room, if you really want to.  Nobody stops you
from doing what you will with your money.  The frightening thing is countries
like yours where everything is treated as a business and you are nothing more
than a profit for someone else.  If you become a liability then God Bless You
because nobody is going to want to look after you.

Our postal service is the envy of most countries.  91% (?) of first class
letters are delivered by the following day, even from Cornwall to the 
Highlands of Scotland.  Posting abroad is a joke because other countries postal
services are so bad...

I don't know where the "fecal matter" comes into any of this, except to
describe the brains required to post such an article as you did.

Get back to your work, Mr Pariah.


Nick (the British Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford  

M'Lud.
From: gal@calliope.uucp (Gal Kaplan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine.
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:58:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1993Jan25.015807.12794
Organization: Harvard University

In article <1jvaenINNnof@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com> mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti) writes:
>In article <1jhfg4INN28c@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>
>>In article 1jfu1eINNlms@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com, I wrote:
>
>>>In the same spirit, I submit that it is equally stupid to apply any
>>>generalization to any group of people...
                                  ^^^^^^
>
>>True.  Of course, .edu-breaths and cops may be generalized at will.
>
>No, Ed.  I said, and meant, ANY group of people.

Exactly, Michael, _PEOPLE_. Dunno about cops, 
but since when are .edu-breaths (like myself) considered people?

	~~~
	~~~ Gal			DoD 623			gal@das.harvard.edu
	~~~
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From: rhcohen@netcom.com (Robert Cohen)
Subject: trickle charger recommendations?
Organization: Northern Calif Home for the Perpetually Stumped
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:56:10 GMT


I have had lots of trouble overcharging my bike battery using the small
transformer units.  I'm looking for a charger which can trickle-charge
for weeks at a time, keeping the battery fully charged, but not over-
charging it.

What's your favorite?  Please email and I'll post a summary.

Thanks!!!

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From: jbm@hal.com (Brad Might)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: cbr600f2 vapor lock ?
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:24:18 GMT
Organization: HaL Computer Systems
NNTP-Posting-Host: infinity.hal.com


My new cbr600f2 has starting problems. Some mornings it will start up and
idle for a while and then just die. After that it usually can't be started
for a day or two. It is just like starting it without turning the gas on.
It idles then gets weak then dies.

Sound familiar to anyone ?

thanks,

brad


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HAL Computer Systems - (512)794-2855
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: nrmendel@unix.amherst.edu (Nathaniel Mendell)
Subject: Bike to bike communication
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:14:17 GMT

My dad's birthday is coming up and I want to get a couple of radios for us...
err.. I mean _him_:) He rides a Concours and I've got a ZX-10. My questions 
are...

What's the best form of electronic communication between bikes? CB or one of
those 2-way fm deals? I'm told that some models have microphones inside
the earphone -- how do those work on bikes? What's range like for a compact
(mount inside fairing?) unit? Prices? Good brand names?

Nathaniel
ZX-10


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Police blame BMW
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:27:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.105744.26127@galadriel.bt.co.uk> ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola) writes:
>
>I was readin in the national press over the weekend about how the
>Police are blaming BMW for the numerous accidents happening due to
>the 'wobble and weave' effect.
>
>In the UK, BMW supply 90% of bikes and the 'wobble and weave' effect
>was first noticed at high speeds on the older R80s.
>The various Police forces have since replaced the R80s with the newer
>K100s, hopefully to solve the problem but alas it still continued.
>The paper quoted a figure of #25,000 (pounds sterling) paid out to
>officers injured in these high speed incidents.
>
>The Police forces are now blaming BMW (I can't remember the exact
>reason) but BMW are defending themselves by repling that the effect
>is not caused by the bike itself. They claim it is a mixture of
>poor maintainence of police bikes, bad load spreading, increased wait
>of police equipment and also rider inexperiance.
>
>So what is the opinion of the netters ?
>
>BMW to fault or Police Riders ?

Sounds like a problem with the police and/or maintanence. I have never had a
problem at high speeds on either style, er, uh, that is, I never HEARD of
anyone having such a problem. I certainly never would travel that fast. It's
against the law. I would NEVER travel at 130mph +, the limit on the K75 (or
so I'm told), but if I did, I sure wouldn't have encountered any handling
problems. Nor would I have encountered them on my friend's R80 at ~110mph, if
I had ever ridden that fast. Which I haven't. And neither has my friend.

Just a theoretical data point.

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - These opinions are not so much opinions, as pearls of wisdom. Any-
one disagreeing is obviously either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally-
deficient, weak-willed, inconsequential, namby-pamby tool of some vague but
conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: homebrew truck ramps?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 18:01:47 GMT

bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Abscess makes the fart go HONDA) writes:

>Has anyone here homebrewed a ramp that they can easily carry in their
>truck that lets them ride/walk a bike up into the back of their
>pickup?  

For my Quadracer I built a couple of ramps out of 2" x 10" (or maybe it
was 2" x 12") x 6' planks, and an angled steel plate at the tip of each
ramp, which rests on the tailgate.

Rev 1.1 added 1/4" x 3/4" slats every 6 or 9 inches to give some traction.
This was because if I didn't have enough approach speed, and I gassed it
on the ramp to compensate, the tires would just spin on the smooth
boards. Now I can just putt up into the bed of the truck. I wouldn't
care to try the stunt on a 2-wheeler, but it works perfectly with the
Quad.

If you don't happen to have a nice chuck of pre-formed steel laying
around, JC Whitney, Harbor Freight Tools, and probably several others,
sell extruded aluminum end caps which you just bolt to a plank to create
an instant ramp. Of course weight is another thing to consider. My pair
of ramps has no problem with ~500 pounds of Me & Quad, but I don't know
how well a single board would handle 5-600 pounds of street bike.

Oh, Rev 1.2 is going to add a chain or cable to each ramp so I can hook
them to the truck and eliminate the possibility of wheelspin spitting
the ramp out from under me & the Quad when we're halfway up. :-)

I'm crossposting this to .dirt since we dirty types spend a lot more
time loading bikes in and out of trucks than the smooth-tire crowd. (Not
counting Harleys and Ducatis, of course. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tomes@iastate.edu ()
Subject: Re: test
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:14:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.133544.20451@bnr.uk> npet@bnr.ca (Neil Harrington) writes:
>John.Hamilton@kennel.fidonet.org wibbled:

>: The Hurt report, and numerous other factual studies, indicate that indeed
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>This is a joke, yes?
>
No joke.  Doctor Harry Hurt did the first widely published and referenced 
scientific study of motorcycle accidents.  No reference materials here on
campus, they're all at home, but 1979 sounds like the publishing date.  A
film produced by the school in CA where the study took place is required
showing for the MSF classes at the community college where I teach the classes
in the summer.

Dr. Hurt is still active in helmet and motorcycling issues, last I heard.

CP "the wibbler" Tomes

"...stick your wong in and wibble it about
    do the hokey pokey and turn yourself around
    that's what it's all about."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott)
Subject: Re: Norton Commander
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:18:26 GMT

TLT101@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>Got a question as to value, My friend told me a guy has a 1970 model,
>think its a 750. he might be interested in selling it, Supposedly in
>good shape.  What is a good price for one and how are they for riding??
>-----------------------------------
>Tim Thompson  TLT101@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
>           DoD#0768
>'83 Yamaha Maxim 400


First things first: It's a Norton Commando, (a Commander is the rotary version
of the last 4-6 years and not available inthis country - legally!) 

If it's a 1970, it *is* a 750cc, it could be a Roadster, a Fastback, an SS (hig pipes on 1 side),  or a High Rider (ugly!). IF it's in *good* shape, the market
price is somewhere between $1800-$3600 depending upon which model. If it's a
production racer, $5000-$8000.

A properly maintained Norton is a joy to ride - properly maintained being the
HEAVY keywords. A Brit bike up thru the 70's is a maintenance intensive machine
but not daunting if you have mechanical abilities and take the time to do it
right.

It has 4 speeds, shifts on the right, 1up, 3 down pattern, still one of the
nicest shifting trannys around. NOT to be romp on - the tranny was designed
for a 500cc machine and never really updated and will break if hammered. 

The bike is light for a 750cc machine - ~420lbs. and narrow. It stands tall
with a 30" seat height, due to 19" wheels front and back.  It handles deftly
(again, properly setup), steering is very neutral.

The h/bar, footpeg, seat ergos are not great - feet to far forward, seat to
high, h/bars to low.  All these items can be changed for a better ride
position.

Tim, my suggestion would be to find someone who knows Nortons and go see it if
you're interested.  They can better determine its value.

email me with any other questions - I'm a Norton nut!

S.
-- 
#   Scott Lilliott -- csl@swl.msd.ray.com  (KotS)
 #  AMA #600897 "Gosh, that's the 3rd motorcycle that's passed us. Sure do take
#   DoD #0227    their life in their hands, what with the weather and all."
 #  INOA #8563   "Yes Janet, life's pretty cheap to that type."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: FRAHM@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU (Joel A. Frahm)
Subject: SECA 400 Tank wanted?
Summary: yeah right...
Keywords: seca, tank, tang, tounge, turnip
Organization: JILA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:31:39 GMT

Someone a while back posted that they wanted a tank for an old SECA 400.
Wandring around, I found a junked 2/82 model SECA 400 with a good tank.
The place is Boulder Bike Works, (303) 442-2440.

Joel.
From: tjohnson@anyway.prime.com (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Definitive HD TV/Vid Authorized Collectible
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:14:16 GMT
Reply-To: tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317)
Organization: Computervision, Bedford MA

In article <1993Jan21.124611.19732@news.arc.nasa.gov> howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (dnalwoH truC) writes:
>
>I wonder if they'll mention the "large bore" surcharge on imported
>bikes that HD got legislated so they could raise their prices and
>stay "competitive"????
>
>Curt Howland "Ace"       DoD#0663       EFF#569
>howland@nsipo.nasa.gov            '82 V45 Sabre

Mr. Howell;

	It may be a result of my own cynicism; but I felt a rather
negative tone to your comments regarding the Harley Davidson Motor
Company. Let me clear a few things up for you just in case.

	First off the "large bore" surcharge (as you termed it), is
more commonly known as a tariff. A tariff is historically imposed on
indusrties and businesses whose practices can be clearly determined
as unethical. Now you are correct in that a tariff was imposed upon
Japanese motorcycle imports during the first Regan administration.
Here are the reasons.

1) The Japanese were dumping bikes. They had a several year supply of
   bikes in crates and wharehouses across the country. This was done
   in order to force US dealers to lower prices, hence creating an
   unprofitable business circumstance for many dealers, and an environment
   prone to easy monopolization.

2) Harley Davidson requested that the 5 year tariff be abolished after
   three years. It was.

3) Harley Davidsons manufacturing facility played a major role in this
   countries defense strategy of WWII and thereafter, They are poised
   to do so again if necesary. The survival of HD is critical to the
   overall shoving of a sindwinder missle up Sadams posteriour.

4) Jap bikes; although not in my consideration; are pieces of shit. ***

5) The average worth of a Jap bike is a $27.92; the average worth of a
   Harley is $9,925.38 (after one year of use). The federal government
   was mearly encouraging its citezens to make sound purchase choices
   by imposing a tariff.

6) Mr. Reagan personally felt that most Jap bike owners were sissies and
   need to be cuffed around a bit. Al Haig was second to concurr.

	In closing, let me end with some finishing comments. Yes a tariff
was imposed. Yes it was justified. And Yes, HD is back on top and is nothing
short of an example of Americans hard at work, and what needs to be done to
turn this whole country around to face forward. The are a shining example
of how to do business right, and how hard work can pay off.

Thank-you;

Tod J. Johnson
DoD #883
"Go Slow, Take Geritol"

*** I want to make it clear that I do not now, nor have I ever in the past
been predjudiced towards bike manufacturers. The fact stated above was the
result of a major government and private study of the Jap bikes. The inclusion
of this comment has nothing to do with my own personal opinion that Jap bikes
are pieces of shit.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cstringe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Chuck Stringer)
Subject: Re: Norton Commander
Organization: Indiana University, University Computing Services
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:13:40 GMT

<TLT101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
| Got a question as to value, My friend told me a guy has a 1970 model,
| think its a 750. he might be interested in selling it, Supposedly in
| good shape.  What is a good price for one and how are they for riding??


Not much of a machine, British and all that. Maybe worth a $100 or so.
Tell you what, I need a large paperweight, I could give $110 for it.


Chuck Stringer       DoD# 794      'If it can't be learned from TV, it isn't
1967 BSA Spitfire                           worth knowing'  -Calvin
Email- cstringe@ucs.indiana.edu.
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From: bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett Lee Leve)
Subject: Re: Kevlar Brake Pads?
Organization: Starved Photo-Linux Hackers Association
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:41:15 GMT
Distribution: usa

The article is in the December 1992 Cycle World, page 54.
It sounded like an add to me not an article, but I must admit
I know nothing about the product.  I know the EBC pads on my
rear disc contain kevlar, and the pads are ok.  
--





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From: npet@bnr.ca (Neil Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:41:16 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Richard Taylor (rct@fulcrum.co.uk) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan20.154406.4372@gdr.bath.ac.uk> bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland) writes:
: >In the referenced article, randy@megatek.com writes:
: >>
: >>  It ain't the bike, its the rider, as you well know.  And ZX-11's are NOT
: >>only fast on a straight road...
: >
: >
: >I know a guy I Aberdeen, he has an old GS550.  No way would I _ever_ want to
: >have to outrun him on any sort of twisty road.
: >
: I agree.

: In fact, it's more like it's nearly *all* the rider, not the bike,
: nowadays, since most modern bikes have competant handling and road
: surfaces are very smooth.

: I have a relatively old litre bike (7 years old - but designed about
: 20 years ago!), and some days I whip a brand new EXUP, another day
: some wee runt on a TZR250 goes underneath my elbow at twice my speed.

: I reckon the only things left to discuss, on *road* bikes, are:
: 	looks
: 	pose value	(this includes *theoretical* top speeds!)
: 	comfort
: 	cost/depreciatation

: The following are automatic:
: 	speed
: 	handling

: Example:
: How many people regularly top 120 mph?		Very few indeed.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: How many bikes can exceed 120 mph?		Most 250cc +.

: I rest rest my case...   <- Sounds like you need to.....  Been watching too
                              much L.A. Law?  Poor bugger!  Try Rumpole.

: Regards,

: Richard Taylor  DoD No. 981


Every day, at least twice.

Sell your bike and get an Allagro, mate.  Sounds like you need it!


Nick (the Unnecessarily Fast Biker on a Slow Bike)   DoD 1069

M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: willey@sumax.seattleu.edu (  steve willey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Its off to the basement we go
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:15:46 GMT
Organization: Seattle University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

In article <blah blah blah;
whoever_the_hell_had_his_bike_in_the_basement@Home.Dod> writes: 

[stuff about bike in basement deleted]

come on folks...  you saw T2, you saw the T1000 (mean nasty terminator)
just drive the cop bike (someone here probably knows what the bike was) up
a few flights of stares... just that easy...  what's the matter with you? 











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** willey@seattleu.edu   DoD# 0769               *   '81 GS450,       **
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