HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: l-rittle@uiuc.edu (Loren J. Rittle)
Subject: Re: VLT 5.517 bug with FR BYPASS
Originator: rittle@hew2.cs.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: l-rittle@uiuc.edu (Loren J. Rittle)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 08:55:26 GMT

WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:

>While I'm griping ;^) , I might as well post my current list of stuff that
>seems to be, uh, suspect, under at least 2.04:

>6. NewPopCLI 4.0. When transferring files using xprkermit, moving the mouse
>   to "unblank" the screen causes a crash. Seems to do so with other telecomm
>   programs (but not with JRComm? I'd worry about my system integrity anyway).

For the record, as the author of NewPop 4.0, I will state:

I have never heard of this problem, never received email about this problem
and never seen this problem myself.

I have used xprkermit with VLT (old and new version) many times under
2.04 (and 1.3) with NewPop 4.0 and have never seen this behavior.  BTW,
I'm using xprkermit 1.5 (9 December 1989).

I would be more than happy to read mail related to this problem if
sent to l-rittle@uiuc.edu.  For some reason, I'm inclined to think
that the problem lies elsewhere...

>Note, that these are just reports I got, I didn't actually repeat these tests
>(and won't - buggy programs should be removed, not worked around), so your
>milage may very, just hearsay, I'm not accusing anyone, etc. 8^).

Wow, incredible...  You are willing to mention programs in a bad light
in public without ever having used them or tested them yourself.  Even
with the disclaimer this seems out of character for you Willy...  Were
you in a bad mood when you posted?  :-)

BTW, if there is a certain tone to this message, it may be because I'm
slightly upset to read a `bug report' second hand in a UseNet newsgroup
that I normally don't read (thanks to the friend who mailed me a copy so
I could defend my program :-).  Worse yet, it is reported by someone who
has never seen the problem and just received some email on the subject and
assumes the problem lies in NewPop.

Regards,
Loren
From: Ron_Reynolds@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca (Ron Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: HELP!  Zmodem/SupraFax
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Apr 92 10:00:36 PST
Organization: Tunnel Vision BBS!

In a message dated Sun 12 Apr 92 09:02, Huebnere@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (robe
wrote:



 H> Advice needed:  After upgrading to a SupraFax v.32bis modem, I am
 H> having
 H> problems with previously problem-free Zmodem transfers.  Since
 H> upgrading
 H> when I Upload files using Zmodem, I recieve a lot of ZACKs which
 H> degrade
 H> the throughput to an unacceptable level (about 1100 cps with a 14.4k
 H> connection).  The protocol doesn't consider the ZACKs errors but it
 H> causes a temporary halt in the transmission.  The ZACKs seems to
 H> become
 H> more frequent, but the transfer does completel eventually.  This has
 H> occurred with both V.32bis and V.32 connections.  What I am hoping is
 H> that someone knows what modem commands or s-registers to change in
 H> order
 H> to fix this most annoying problem.

 H> My active profile is identical to the IBM/Amiga factory configuration
 H> (at&f2)
 H> provided in the modem memory except for atx2, atl, and atw1.  I am
 H> using
 H> the Zmodem implementation from JRComm.  Have tried toggling Overdrive
 H> mode,
 H> 32/16 bit CRC, and the size of the "Window" all to no avail.  Any
 H> advice
 H> appreciated.

Well sir, I had pretty much the same problem and what I found to help me
out was to lock the baud rate at 19200 and to use that "GVPPatch" program
that is on most boards. I found that I would have a lot of errors except
when I D/L'ed to RAM until I started using this patch.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.991

       __
      /// -Ron Reynolds-         UUCP Ron_Reynolds@tvbbs.wimsey.bc.ca
 __  ///
 \\\///   -Co-Sysop-             FIDO 1:153/910
  \XX/
          -Tunnel Vision-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: djkucera@descartes.waterloo.edu (Dylan Kucera)
Subject: Continuing Zmodem transfers with Term
Keywords: term zmodem continue transfer
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:15:45 GMT

	I have been running Term on my AMIGA happily for the past couple of weeks,
but I've run into one major snag with it.

    If I put the overwrite mode on "R" for continue transfer, then do a
'sz + file' in UNIX to continue a transfer, the rotten thing seems to append
a partially transfered file, but sending from the beginning of the file again!
Has anyone else run into this continuing problem?  I'd most certainly like to
remedy it, as Term is the most comprehensive terminal I have seen for any
computer, including I*M!

Thanks!
DK.
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: JRComm speed (was: Max BPS on a A2000)
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:34:51 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

ridder@zso.dec.com (Hans Ridder) writes:

>Do you mean *display* text or *scroll* text?  I can *display* text at
>over 1900cps on a 7MHz A2000 (4 color screen,) which is doing the
>sending *and* receiving (meaning it would probably be faster if it were
>only receiving.)  Scrolling is another matter....

>>The best I've been able to push my code to is a little over 1400cps with
>>a 2 color screen on an A3000, so even 19.2kbps is going to sufficient
>>for the near future.

>Is that the scrolling speed?  If so, that's pretty good!

  Sorry, if I had known that hairs would be split I would have been a bit
more detailed...

  Yes, I was taking into account scrolling.  And yes, I've been able to push
a 2 color screen on the A3000 at 1400cps, but that's with a 640x200 non-
interlaced screen and using asynchronous file I/O from disk to screen.  I don't
have another fast machine here at the moment to see how much the speed drops
once serial interrupts have to be serviced.

  -jack-
From: dlarson@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dale Larson - Amiga Networking)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: FAQ
Date: 10 Apr 92 13:20:02 GMT
Reply-To: dlarson@cbmvax.UUCP (Dale Larson - Amiga Networking)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Commodore, Amiga Networking Group, New Siberia Office


There are several FAQs in this group which come up 3 times a week.  Other
than FAQs and religious arguments over which term program is best, there is
very little traffic in this newsgroup.  Perhaps at least the volume of FAQs
could be cured with an FAQ list.  

Any volunteers to maintain an FAQ list?

I'd maintain the list myself if I didn't feel like my working on some of the
products most frequently asked about created the possibility of a conflict...
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:3405 comp.dcom.modems:6309 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:7279
From: dvlpnn@cs.umu.se (Patrik Nilsson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.dcom.modems,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: E-mail adress for Supra v.32bis dealer (US) wanted.
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:41:42 GMT
Organization: Dep. of Info.Proc, Umea Univ., Sweden

Could someone please send me a e-mail adress to a SupraFaxModem-dealer

Thanks in advance
From: clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re:  Max BPS on a A2000
Distribution: world
Date: 11 Apr 92 10:27:34 EDT
Organization: Private UUCP "Twig" Node

In article <2808@faatcrl.UUCP> jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:
>clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL) writes:
>
>>:-).  Most of what I do is not text (ie. BBSing).  It will, most likely,
>>consist of SLIP, UUCP and dialup X-Windows as well as a spattering of
>>ZModem stuff.  I wasn't questioning your code (I like it) but Commodore's
>>hardware.
>
>  Uh, that's what I'm saying, the hardware isn't that bad with 2.04.

        Well, are your spec single-tasking (so to speak) or multi-tasking. 
When you test scroll-speed there are no disk accesses.  What about if I
take a directory during a UUCP connection, will there have to be a timeout
and retry (at high speed the wait wastes a lot of useful data transmission
time).  I know that I've heard problems from people who get errors every
time their HD writes during a download.  I better buffer would help or cure
this problem even if the fault may lie with the HD controller in question.

>  By all means, if you can get by with 2400bps, do it.  I'm not so sure that
>V.fast is going to be consumer-ready by 1993.  It took Rockwell several years
>to get a V.32/32bis chipset to market, it's probably going to take as much
>time, if not longer, for V.fast to follow and for the prices to drop.
>
>  -jack-

        Good point.  I suppose that only the spec will be ready by 1993 but
a physical manifestation could take a bit more time :-)

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From: cqn1676@zeus.tamu.edu (CHINH QUOC NGUYEN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: ab20 and Term
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:08:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Now that ab20 is gone, where is the best source for NEW uploads?

I've been a faithful user of Term for a while but I'm just now getting around
to asking about some of the bugs.  I had very few problems with 1.9c but 2.0
seems really flaky.  The 80th column on my screen doesn't work (any text printed
on that column stays there and doesn't scroll up).  Cut and paste doesn't work
as well as it used to (I know it's improved but I liked the old way).  Any
attempts at running an AREXX script freezes the computer, and not all the memory
is freed up after quitting the program.  I agree with others that VT emulation
is terrible (editting this post is really difficult right now).  But with all
of its faults, it still sports the best interface around and is the most config-
urable.  Since no other program really supports 2.04, I'll stick to this one.

By the way, my configuration is an A3000 with 4 megs of ram.  I erased over my
copy of 1.9c so I'm kinda stuck with using 2.0.  I've used NComm, VLT, and
JR Comm (ughh what a rip!) and although they all have better emulation, they
lack in configurability and ease of use.  I've also only been into this type of
stuff for a very short time so blame my dislike of the other programs at 
inexperience except for JR Comm (I paid the shareware fee and got hacked when
I saw Term).

Thanks for listening.

Chinh Nguyen
cqn1676@venus.tamu.edu

*insert witty comment here*

PS  I remembered another bug with Term, sometimes when I'm downloading, the
computer crashes after finishing but half the time it doesn't finish closing
out the file.  Could be due to me running other programs at the same time and
running out of memory although this has happened to me at times I only ran Term.
Seems to only happen with multiple transfers of small files.
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Max BPS on a A2000
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:00:00 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL) writes:

>        This has got to change.  Commodore must be working on the serial
>speed in some sense but it really is senseless to have these unbuffered
>(nearly) FIFOs on the serial port AND HAVE NO OTHER OPTIONS.  I don't
>intend for this to be another doom and gloom -MB- type post, merely a plea
>to Commodore.  I only have a stock B2000, and while more speed would be
>nice sometimes (ie. DTP screen refresh, UUCP uncompressing) I don't find it
>a necessity yet.  I am planning on buying a high speed modem soon (I may
>decide to wait for V.fast though) and I think it's senseless to limit a
>56.7kbps+ modem to 9600 or 19.2k even.  It' also stupid to have to go out
>and buy eight serial ports to get one that handles high-speed without being
>a processor hog.  I'm kind of surprised that one of these hack-em-up
>companies hasn't come out with a daughterboard or hack of some sort for the
>serial port.

  You're very rarely, if ever, going to notice much of a difference between
38.4kbps and 56.7kbps with a V32.bis modem.  For one, large amounts of data
are most likely going to be already compressed, so the V.42bis compression
is going to have little effect on the data, best you'll see in that regard
is about 1750cps on average.  Sure, V.42bis can push plain ASCII (with a real 
world distribution) up over 2000cps, but your current Amigas, even an A3000 
with ECS, is simply not going to be able to display text that fast.  The best 
I've been able to push my code to is a little over 1400cps with a 2 color 
screen on an A3000, so even 19.2kbps is going to sufficient for the near 
future.

  As for V.fast, it's going to be quite some time before an affordable unit
hits the streets, get a V.32bis modem for now and use it to save you phone
costs now.

  -jack-
From: castleaw@brandonu.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Help! in a big way.
Date: 1 Apr 92 17:42:26 GMT
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada


Where can I find CAC/IP (or was that ATP/IP) and SLIP, I want to be able
to be able to FTP from my account on the university's Micro VAX 3100, straight
to my Amiga 500 without having to stop in my Account.  The way I do it now
is to FTP to my account, then Kermit across to my Amiga, a lot of 
needless mucking about.  Please steer me in the right direction.
E-Mail or posts would be appreciated.
 
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From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: "64 Mentality" Sofware Piracy is not theft
Date: 12 Apr 92 14:46:18 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>	These questions are really interesting to me.  How do ideas fall
>into a Lockean idea of property and the natural right to property?
>Quite simply they don't.  Investigate these ideas from a philosophical
>perspective and there can be no robust defense of the position that
>claims it is a crime to _copy_ software.  An instructor once used the
>following analogy.  If a man raises corn in a field he owns, he has a
>right to the fruits yeilded from the mixing of his labor and the land.
>He can take his corn and sell it or he can eat it; he can give it
>someone to someone if he is so inclined.  If he sells that corn to
>someone he relenquishes ownership of that corn.  The new owner is also
>free to do what he pleases with it.

  The farmer's corn is a physically limited object, once it is sold or
eaten or rotted away it no longer exists.  Software trancends that level,
it can be copied ad infinitum with the bit pattern of the 1,000,000th copy
the exact same as the original.  There's exists no current method to replicate
*any* physical object with that much accuracy yet, and that leads to the
crux of the problem here.

  While the simple act of copying software is, and of itself, legal (I deplore
copy protection).  The infringement comes once there are multiple copies in
use by different people.  Once you use software you begin to derive a benefit 
from the use of it.  It is that benefit that is measurable.  For example, a 
body of text through the use of a word processor, a speadsheet that represents 
information within, a new program from the compiled source, a few hours of
recreational relaxation through the use of a game.  All of these benefits are
real, are they not?

  And yes, according to the archaic definition of theft, the program that was
copied was not stolen since the original disk that was copied still exists in
the location it came from.  But what of the benefit derived from the copied
program?  What sort of state can we define that as?  We both "know" it is not
right to do this, but how do we define it?  Without a newly coined term to
define this concept we have to categorize it according to the materialistic
environment our senses limit us to, the benefit was stolen since there was no
payment for the program that allows one to derive that benefit.

  This is really getting quite pointless now, so let's put an end to it, ok?
You're not going to change my views on this anymore than I'm going to change
yours.

  -jack-
From: clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re:  JRComm speed (was: Max BPS on a A2000)
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:39:01 GMT
Organization: Private UUCP "Twig" Node

In article <1992Apr8.155441.26927@ninja.zso.dec.com> ridder@zso.dec.com (Hans Ridder) writes:
>In article <2790@faatcrl.UUCP> jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:
>>Sure, V.42bis can push plain ASCII (with a real world distribution) up
>>over 2000cps, but your current Amigas, even an A3000 with ECS, is simply
>>not going to be able to display text that fast.
>
>Do you mean *display* text or *scroll* text?  I can *display* text at
>over 1900cps on a 7MHz A2000 (4 color screen,) which is doing the
>sending *and* receiving (meaning it would probably be faster if it were
>only receiving.)  Scrolling is another matter....

        I see that the Subject line has changed but the point of my
original post was not JR-Comm's scrolling speed, I could care less whether
my interactive sessions are 19.2 or 38.4 or 57.6.  It's the raw data haul
for UUCP etc... that I'm interested in.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: jdl47513@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jason Lowe)
Subject: Re: Term 2.1 problems
Keywords: term 2.1 speech problem
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:02:20 GMT

djkucera@descartes.waterloo.edu (Dylan Kucera) writes:

>In article <45724@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> huebnere@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Robert Huebner) writes:
>>
>> Possible problems why you're isn't working: 
>>1) you have to have SPEAK: device mounted.  I am fairly certain the standard 
>>
>Got it.

>>2) You might be mis-interpreting the meaning of the feature.  At first
>>
>No, I had it working in 2.0!  I know what it does...

>>3) Lastly, note that Speak preferences are saved separately from other
>>Prefs.  You'll have to click the save button in the Speak Pref's box
>>since Project/Save Prefs doesn't cover this. 
>>
>Yes, I have the prefs saved separately.

>> Basically if the "Speak!" button causes the Ami to say "This is Term Speaking"
>>then everything is setup correctly.  As the docs state, its mainly useful
>>if you have Term pushed back to a rear screen while download or redialing.
>>
>Yes, It will say "This is Term Speaking" when I hit the button, but it says
>nothing else in the actual terminal.

>Still seeking help on the speech option in Term 2.1!!!

>DK.

I also cannot get term2.1 to speak.  It does speak when I click on the Speak!
button, but it never speaks otherwise.  I am using the '030 version of it,
if this could possibly have anything to do with it.  I'm wondering, does term
have to be in the background (screen hidden) for the terminal to speak out?

Also:  Are there any new ARexx commands for the new features?  I need to
reset the terminal when I connect, but I can't find a command that does this
properly in the old ARexx command set.  I suppose I can try the "execute
menu option ####"....

-- 
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From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: "64 Mentality" Sofware Piracy is not theft
Date: 17 Apr 92 01:22:12 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

89u1569@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>Specificaly about JRComm to get more registered users there should be a way 
>to make it easy paying. Most users find it a hassle to register.

  I've applied for VISA and MasterCard merchant accounts.  It's very hard to
get one when you don't have a store front or business address other than a
P.O. Box.  I hope I get approved because I agree with you completely about the
hassle registering it, especially for non-U.S. users.

  -jack-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: aq061@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott Devine)
Subject: JRComm 2.0 - when?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 15:54:33 GMT


I have been reading with interest the posts about a new JrComm 2.0.  I haven't
noticed when it is due out.  Anyone know an approximate date?

J. Radigan - Do you have a short new features list that can be posted to 
             condense all the questions people have asked?  (I am wondering
             about a few things too.)
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: NComm 2.0 at last!
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:33:22 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

rock@lakes.trenton.sc.us (Rockerboy) writes:

>net.  Games are some of the _most_ challenging things to program.  You
>imagine that a program to edit text is harder to code than a program 
>which animates in 3-d?

  C'mon Rocker, I expect better from you than sweeping generalizations like
this!  It doesn't matter one whit *what* you're programming, the effort
involved will show in the final product.  

  -jack-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: mp@wam.umd.edu (Martha Elizabeth Phillips)
Subject: Re: "64 Mentality" vs "PC/Corp Mentality"
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 11:45:33 GMT

I seriously doubt that even if Macs were $100 that Rockerboy, or myself for that matter would jump on them like hotcakes.  WHat would be the purpose??
To see how many fonts and DAs one could collect??  To play killer games like
Dark Castle or some PD othello game??  Wow, pinch me!

- Redbeard
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Opinions on Term 2.1
From: keith@actrix.gen.nz (Keith Stewart)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 10:42:18 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Keywords: discussion term

In article <stefanb.703324322@rama> stefanb@rama.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Becker) writes:
> djkucera@descartes.waterloo.edu (Dylan Kucera) writes:
> 
> >look on 2.0.  The download window looks a mess comparitively, quite
> >unorganized in my opinion.
> 
> I think the design of the download/upload windows is much better than in 2.0.
> He now uses "recessed" boxes for read-only parts, as suggested in the Style
> Guide. All errors in one session are now shown in a ListView Gadget, so you can
> scroll back to see what has happend.
> 
> 	Stefan
> 
> -- 
> Mail  : Stefan Becker, Holsteinstrasse 9, D-5100 Aachen  ///    Only
> Phone : +49-241-505705			    Germany     ///  Amiga makes
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> FIDO  : 2:242/7.6, Stefan_Becker@mowgli.fido.de	     \XX/  -->A3000/25<--

Yep I agree I like the "new look" .The programme is improved and the emulations
seem more solid.

Keith