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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Dr Who Movie
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:02:02 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

In article <1992Dec17.001623.27575@spock.UUCP>, ramirez@spock.uucp (Andreas Orphanides) writes:
> Does anyone have a script to the "godawful" Dr Who movie?
> If so, email me at ramirez@choate.edu
> thanx in advance
> 
> ps NO FTP ACCESS so pleeze dont just tell me an ftp site
> 

This could be one of two things:
a) an attempt to illegally violate Johnny Byrne's copyright on that script
	to which we must *not* respond or
b) a pretty pathetic attempt to get a rise out of Byrne and have another
	message from him appear on the net.

in either case, please, no one send this person that script!  You don't
have the right, and in any case that one's been abandoned twice over.

Steven.K.Manfred





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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: st:tng (critiques) vs dr.
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:10:57 EST

DC, like Paramount, added promos to add money.  Let's fce it, Yar's
death, like Superman's, added to the ratings.  I agree that the promos,
when done without forethough, hurt the story.  But, sadly, American
media is too often not *about* the story.
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From: vidynath@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Vidhyarath K Rao)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: "Curse of Fenric"
Date: 20 Dec 1992 11:16:54 -0500
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In article <1992Dec19.111811.9519@iscsvax.uni.edu> morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>[...] Anyways on to the trivialities [...]

[rest of the article describing why "Curse of Fenric" should have been
titled "Curse of Loki" deleted.]

I find the assumption that the writers for Dr. Who had any knowledge or
understanding of or sympathy to Germanic mythology totally absurd. They just
plucked a few names that rolled easily of their tongue. Wagner did a better
job in his Siegfrid cycle.

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Subject: Re: minor milestone
From: alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith)
Date: 12 Dec 92 17:42:18 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: Muppet Labs

In article <17457@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
>Yet another little detail in "Love And War" which some of my friends
>particularly praised -- not really a spoiler: it features the first
>openly gay and bisexual characters in Who history.
>
>Anyway, my question -- has anyone else responded to this?  Considering
>the outcry among certain religious types when "Ghost Light" supported
>evolution and "Curse of Fenric" showed Christian faith as fallible in
>the face of evil, I'm surprised the homophobes haven't come up in arms
>yet.  Have they?

Remember that, in order to be offended by a book, you first have to be able
to read :-)

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From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Who movies
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:11:48 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

bcr@cernapo.cern.ch (Bill Riemers) writes:

>In article <17442@umd5.umd.edu> jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:

>>   I fully expect these two movies to someday show up on Mystery Science Theater
>>   3000.  They're turkeys.  Peter Cushing plays an eccentric human scientist
>>   called "Doctor Who" who basically invents a time machine in the shape of a
>>   police box (for no good reason) that's bigger inside than out (for no good
>>   reason).  They then stumble through the plots of the first two Dalek stories.
>>   They completely mutilate "The Daleks" in the first film, but the second has
>>   one redeeming feature over "Dalek Invasion Of Earth" -- it's half as long.

>Try to be fair here.  They never actually say the Doctor is human.  (They
>just leave you with that impression.)  Up until the Doctor's first
>regeneration the TV series tends to project the same impression!

Actually in the very first episode, Susan says that they are "from another
time, another place."
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From: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Subject: st:tng (critiques) vs dr.
Reply-To: "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:33:39 EST

Ah, apparently you have been watching a pale imitation of Dr. Who,
because *my* daleks climbed the stairs in Rembrance of the Daleks.  *My*
daleks have manipulative members....they are called "robomen" or
"slaves", depending upon the epsiode.

See, my daleks were genetically altered by a guy named Davros to despise
the humanoid form, although it is superior to that of the dalek.  So,
they have a great inferiority complex, making them prone to suicide when
their frailties are pointed out (by covering their eyepiece, for
instance).  Now, THIS is emotional depth!
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Date: Tuesday, 15 Dec 1992 10:52:12 EST
From: Philip J. Comins <PJCHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Doctor's names

    Yes, my thanks to the posted directory based on the FAQ sheet. I think
part of the problem here is that I read somewhere (I don't recall at the
moment whether it was on the net or in DWM) that it was the MASTER who implied
that the Valeyard was the Doctor in a future incarnation, and though the
Valeyard didn't deny it, we KNOW that the Master has *always*been deceitful,
especially where the Doctor is concerned. It is possible then that the
Valeyard and the Doctor are in no way created. After all, if you found out that
you were going to turn evil in the future, wouldn't you immediately do some-
thing about itif you were a capable Time Lord?
                                                      -- Philip J. Comins
From: kiron@vedge.com (Kiron D. Bondale)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Celery
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:49:22 GMT
Organization: Visual Edge Software Ltd.

Hmmm this brings up an oddity... that celery he had on his jacket was
there since Castrovalva ("Civilization at last")... odd that it should
stay fresh through as many episodes as it did.  Maybe the Doctor exudes
some sort of preservation field in his immediate vicinity - this would
explain why you never see him : bathing, or doing laundry... :-)

Random ramblings...what can I say, it's MONDAY!

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From: doctor8@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Clay Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Visions `93
Date: 15 Dec 92 13:07:47 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

I know it's a bit early in the game, but who all is supposed to be at 
Visions next year? If you could post, I'd be eternally grateful.

Also, there's a project that has been much on my mind as of late.
I'd like to compile a list of the stations in the US (including the 
Sci-Fi Network) showing The Doctor. I'll personally tackle the 
compilation if those in the areas it's shown will send me:

(a)Day shown
(b)Time shown
(c)format shown. By this I mean are they shown in "movie" format, or 
episode by episode format.
(d)Channel/Call Letters

To avoid clogging the newsgroup, email repsonses to me at 
doctor8@cybernet.cse.fau.edu . Let me know it's for the compilation by 
making the subject "Who compilation" or some such.

When finished, I'll post the list to the newsgroup.

Yet anothere question:Where (if anywhere) can I ftp a Who quote file(s)?

Doctor#8
From: vcz40@jester.usask.ca (Perry Testem)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Zoe
Date: 19 Dec 1992 12:50:22 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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Zoe started in "The Wheel in Space". Ms. Herriot >was< brilliant, moreso,
in some instances, than The Doctor. She was from Earth originally, as the
Wheel was a Terran Space Station.

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From: spp@reef.cis.ufl.edu (Stephen P. Potter)
Subject: Re: Quotes list request
Organization: The Department of Probable Possible Impossibilities
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 20:45:25 GMT

In article <1gthddINNlii@coral.bucknell.edu> norbeck@alphard.cs.bucknell.edu (Naughty Nukes NY in her 1999 Nissan) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.104106.23089@midway.uchicago.edu> das0@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>>And when did the Doctor say "You may be a doctor, but I'm The Doctor.
>>The definite article, you might say."?
>
>This is the first Doctor in _The Five Doctors_.  He says this when
>talking to Tegan, who is, as always, a bit confused.  Doc 1 asks Tegan
>who Doc 5 is, and she says he's the Doctor.  Doc1 says (This is from
>memory, but I think your quote is close enough to go on):
>
>"He may be *a* Doctor, but I am *the* Doctor, the original, you might
>say!"
>
Ummm... nope... not quite.  I believe the line is question is from "Robot",
when Harry Sullivan is trying to get the Doctor to stay in bed.  Something
like this:

HS: "After all, I am a doctor."
D4: "Ah, you might be *a* doctor, but I am The Doctor.  The genuine article
	you might say."

I believe the line you are thinking of is more along these lines...
TJ: "Who are you?"
D1: "I might be any number of people.  As it is, I happen to be the Doctor,
	the first one, the original."

Steve
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From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: Celery
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:53:13 GMT


kiron@vedge.com (Kiron D. Bondale) writes:
>Hmmm this brings up an oddity... that celery he had on his jacket was
>there since Castrovalva ("Civilization at last")... odd that it should
>stay fresh through as many episodes as it did.

in the episode "enlightenment" we see him take a new piece of celery off the
banquet table and pin it on in place of the old piece.

one assumes that he was doing this sort of thing on a regular basis all
along.

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From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Celery
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:20:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: burrhus.1992Dec15.212039.4149
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

>Hmmm this brings up an oddity... that celery he had on his jacket was
>there since Castrovalva ("Civilization at last")... odd that it should
>stay fresh through as many episodes as it did.  Maybe the Doctor exudes
>some sort of preservation field in his immediate vicinity - this would
>explain why you never see him : bathing, or doing laundry... :-)
>
 And maybe Peter Jennings is a paraplegic, that would explain why you never
see him standing up....
Come on!

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From: 00kacohn@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Jamie & The Higlanders
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:03:54 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


     Thanks for all your information on Zoe; now, of course, I want to know
more about Jamie.  I know he was from Scotland ("The Highlanders") around 1752
or thereabouts, but how did he get mixed up with the Doctor and why did he
decide to stay on with him?  (I would think that somebody from that far back
in the past would be simply overwhelmed by all the modern/futuristic
technology; was that covered in any of the shows?)  While we're at it, what was
"The Highlanders" about, anyway?  I remember seeing Jamie being returned to his
own time and getting dumped into the middle of something that looked like a
clan battle; is that too far off course?  (It's been a while since I saw "The
War Games", so bear with me.)

Again, e-mail or post, whichever you prefer.  Thank you for all your help and
indulgence.

Casey
From: prisoner@infopls.chi.il.us (Pat Mondi)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Who movies           
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 11:49:16 CST
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||||Elena A Christofides Mumbled to All about "Who movies"||||

 EAC> I recently found out that there were two Doctor Who movies made - one
 EAC> in 1965,  Something about the Daleks, then a sequel in '66, retitled
 EAC> invasion 2150 or  something like that.

 EAC> As I've never seen discussion about these (and I'm a neophyte
 EAC> whovian), could  someone tell me if these are on video someplace? Does
 EAC> anyone in the Columbus OH area have them? or know if any of the video
 EAC> stores here have them? I always  check whenever I'm at the video stores
 EAC> - and have only seen some episode tapes  there.

 EAC> Thanks, Elena

 You're right. There were 2 who movies. The First was "Doctor Who and the 
 Daleks" and the second was "Dalek Invasion Earth: 2150 A.D." Both are 
 on video at Blockbuster Video (I believe it is a nation wide chain). You
 should call your local blockbuster and ask them to check for you. I have
 both of them on video, and they'rs pretty poor copies. I will duplacate them
 for you, if you can't find them, for free if you pay me for the tapes. 
 But, let me remind you that my copies are in horrid condition.

                -Pat Mondi

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From: Liz%Eng%Banyan@magnolia.banyan.com
Subject: Fenric novelization (small spoilers) (was: Re: Nightshade endin
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 08:28:11 EST

Possible small spoilers for the novelization (not the episode) of "The 
Curse of Fenric":



tp902821@pine.canberra.edu.au (Scott McLauchlan) says:
>(BTW, in the
>novelisation of "The Curse of Fenric" Ace leaves the Doctor to live in
>eighteenth or nineteenth century France). 

??  Is this perhaps another draft of the novel I'm unfamiliar with?  I
don't remember this.  (Which doesn't mean anything; my brain always
becomes toast around the holidays. ;-))

Small spoilers for the beginning of _Love and War_, and maybe some little
spoilers for the end of _Nightshade_ as well:



No, it's not remarked on at all.  I read _L&W_ first, so I was REALLY
thrown by the precipitous ending of _Nightshade_.  Otherwise, though,
not a bad book; but _L&W_, in spite of dropping that little plot point,
is a better one.

Liz
lizb@banyan.com
From: norbeck@alphard.cs.bucknell.edu (Naughty Nukes NY in her 1999 Nissan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Quotes list request
Date: 18 Dec 1992 21:55:57 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
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In article <1992Dec18.104106.23089@midway.uchicago.edu> das0@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

>And when did the Doctor say "You may be a doctor, but I'm The Doctor.
>The definite article, you might say."?

This is the first Doctor in _The Five Doctors_.  He says this when
talking to Tegan, who is, as always, a bit confused.  Doc 1 asks Tegan
who Doc 5 is, and she says he's the Doctor.  Doc1 says (This is from
memory, but I think your quote is close enough to go on):

"He may be *a* Doctor, but I am *the* Doctor, the original, you might
say!"

I hope that's close enough to help.  I would offer to check it but I
have finals taking up my every waking moment right now (and many of my
non-waking ones).  If you want me to check, let me know, but I may not
be able to get back to my account to answer till Jan.


>Yours,
>Don Smith


Nancy


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From: echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides)
Subject: Re: Who movies
Keywords: Excellent!
 JACOBS) writes:
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:50:20 GMT


"Excellent Dude!"

Actually, I've seen the first one - it was "Excellent Dude!"

<Sorry, I just had to do that!!>

I haven't seen the second one - but I heard that it sucked
in comparison!

Elena
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From: doctor8@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason Abner Miller)
Subject: Re: Quotes list request
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:26:00 GMT

Out of the mouth of norbeck@alphard.cs.bucknell.edu (Naughty Nukes NY in her
1999 Nissan)...
>In article <1992Dec18.104106.23089@midway.uchicago.edu> das0@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> 
>>And when did the Doctor say "You may be a doctor, but I'm The Doctor.
>>The definite article, you might say."?
> 
>This is the first Doctor in _The Five Doctors_.  He says this when
>talking to Tegan, who is, as always, a bit confused.  Doc 1 asks Tegan
>who Doc 5 is, and she says he's the Doctor.  Doc1 says (This is from
>memory, but I think your quote is close enough to go on):
> 
>"He may be *a* Doctor, but I am *the* Doctor, the original, you might
>say!"
> 
>I hope that's close enough to help.  I would offer to check it but I
>have finals taking up my every waking moment right now (and many of my
>non-waking ones).  If you want me to check, let me know, but I may not
>be able to get back to my account to answer till Jan.

	Actually, this quote was from Part 1 of "Robot", the first Tom
Baker serial, when a frazzled Harry Sullivan is trying to examine a
post-regenerative traumatic Doctor.  Harry says something like "Now now,
I'm the doctor", whereupon Baker exclaims
	"You might be *A* doctor, but I'm *THE* Doctor - *THE*, definite
article".

 	The scene you remember, from Part 2 of "The Five Doctors", was quite
close, but I think the actual dialogue was:
	Tegan:  "Who might you be?"
	Pseudo-First Doctor:  "I might be any number of things, child!
As it happens, I am the Doctor, the original, you might say!  Number One!"
	or something to this effect (I'll have to check out the actual
dialogue when I get home) ... but the requested quote was almost definitely
from "Robot"

> 
>>Yours,
>>Don Smith
> 
> 
>Nancy
> 
> 
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>|......Krispies."  Charles Emerson Winchester III......|.norbeck@bucknell.edu.|

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From: uhclem@nemesis.UUCP
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:54 CST
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: post-ballot d.w. : Trouble abou
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<>
[0]In article <DcNiVB4w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
[0]<I just got an interesting note from James Armstrong referrring to the fact that
[0]<his episode guide IS COPYRIGHT.   This causes some trouble as the motion
[0]<consering this was passed.
[0]<QUESTION: Who was responible for NOT letting ALL parties that this could lead
[0]<to future trouble and how come James was not informed about the resolution
[0]<during the vote.
[0]<
[0]<I am not in a panic just yet, but the parties involved SHOULD HAVE BEEN TOLD
[0]<ABOUT THIS if they have already unsubscribed themselves.

[1]Mr Video writes:
[1]But, it would have been nice to have received some e-mail about this before
[1]hand.  I am well known on the net and therefore am not hard to find.

That's ok, I haven't given them permission to use mine either, nor was
I asked prior to the ballot appearing.  Mine copyright statement says:

[-]	  Compilation & format Copyright 1991,1992 by Frank Durda IV
[-]You may reprint or redistribute provided you give credit.  You may not sell
[-]this work.  You may not charge for access or place an additional copyright or
[-]restrictions on this work. Other uses must be approved in advance in writing.
			      **************************************************
[-]		UUnet is allowed to archive this document.

And I pointed that out the moment the ballot appeared.  I got a nice sarcastic
reply, but that was all.  As Mike said about himself, I am also pretty easy
to find in this and other groups on the net.

I'll have to see what whoever it is has in mind before I decide what to do.
For the present I will continue to expand, correct and post my version.

Frank Durda IV <uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org>|"You are going to shoot me in 
...utacfd!nemesis!uhclem (nearest internet) | the back!"
...letni!rwsys!nemesis!uhclem	            |
...decvax!microsoft!trsvax!nemesis!uhclem   |Who said it and What story?
From: hartnett@ocpt.ccur.com (Robert Sean Hartnett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Prydonians of Prynceton
Date: 15 Dec 1992 17:27:16 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hello

	I remember someone out there was asking about the
Prydonians of Prynceton. I've been a member for several years
and recommend them as club. They send out a newsletter every month
and have yet to be late or miss a month.

             PRYDONIANS OF PRYNCETON
             P.O. Box 3194
             Princeton, NJ  08543-3194

	Tell them i sent you.

RuSH
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