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From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: clout closed
Organization: Gagme Public Access Unix, Chicago, Illinois
Distribution: chi
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:45:36 GMT

In article <gLB5wB2w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann) writes:
>  In trying to connect with clout today, I saw this rather strange message:
>
>cc-tip>clout
>Trying CLOUT (128.135.24.100)... Open
>
>[Connection to CLOUT closed by foreign host]
>cc-tip>
>
>  Just what does that mean? Is Iraq invading Chicago, now?? :-)

Why does Clout only crash on weekends?

*SIGH*

I just got off the phone with Russell.  He says he will try
to make the trip down to Clout tonight (from Naperville) to fix it.

-greg

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From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: clout closed
Organization: Gagme Public Access Unix, Chicago, Illinois
Distribution: chi
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:36:08 GMT

In article <MWS3SEHMH@linac.fnal.gov> matt@severian.chi.il.us (Matt Crawford) writes:
>
>I guess he didn't, eh?  Youse guys need an on-campus cloutster again,
>like yez useta have.

We're working on it!
If you know someone who lives there and is an experienced Sun admin,
please let us know.

>This isn't a crash, per se.  Is it some known cause, like a full disk
>or like that-there?

I think it had something to do with NIS getting messed up.
Go figure.

-greg

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From: randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess)
Subject: Re: clout closed
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:58:44 GMT

In article <MWS3SEHMH@linac.fnal.gov> matt@severian.chi.il.us (Matt Crawford) writes:
>This isn't a crash, per se.  Is it some known cause, like a full disk
>or like that-there?

	No!!  Clout?  Full disk?
	Shirley, you jest!

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	Who is this dog meat who stands before me now?
	That's the biz, sweetheart.
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From: holum@ils.nwu.edu (Ann Holum)
Subject: a true chicago experience...
Followup-To: chi.eats
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:23:22 GMT

Betsy Weatherhead, in responding to the request for the best polish place,
asked for recommendations for relatively inexpensive restaurants which
might also give out-of-towners a "true chicago experience".

Two of my favorites in this category are

Any Harold's Chicken Shack.   Harold's--over 50 of them--are legendary for
their delicious friend chicken; as far as I know, they only exist on the
south side of Chicago.  There are two in Hyde Park;  both on 53rd street. 
Although these two Harold's are within about a block of each other, there
are always lines at both.

The Red Barrel features ribs and other barbequed meats.  Ribs, I have been
told, are a Chicago specialty.  Its address is 5220 Archer, tel. 284-0044. 
From the north side, take 55 south to Cicero, go south on Cicero until you
reach Archer and then go head west (...I think it's west and not east of
Cicero) to Kilbourn.  They're cheaper than Randalls Barbeque located
downtown, and are every bit as good!  (tel 565-2203) 
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From: dlg1@quads.uchicago.edu (deborah lynn gillaspie)
Subject: Re: Best Polish place
Reply-To: dlg1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:18:19 GMT

If you go all the way to Lemont to the Polonia, save room for dessert
at the Strand!! Wonderful ice cream, and a fun atmosphere for a visitor.
--Debbie
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From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
Subject: Re: Best Polish place
Organization: Gagme Public Access Unix, Chicago, Illinois
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:11:32 GMT

In article <93006.142537U30633@uicvm.uic.edu> <U30633@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Ok.  I've been to Busy Bee, Kuchnia Polska, and Orbit.  Can I get some
>recommendations on your favorite Polish restaurant?  Real home made
>stuff.  My friend from Warsaw is coming to Chicago and I want to impress
>him!

I agree with the other person who followed up that taking a
Polish person to a Polish restaurant is probably not the best
way to impress someone.

But anyway, I live near the Perogi Inn, near the corner of
Milwaukee and Lawrence.  It's not bad.

My favorite one is Wigry, on Milwaukee, a couple blocks south of Belmont.
Good food.  Small place, and it's kinda smoky (as in cigarettes), but
not bad.  You better speak Polish, because it's rare for a waitress
there to speak any English.

-greg

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From: lynch@ils.nwu.edu (Richard Lynch)
Subject: Re: Best Polish place
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:13:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.135101.16220@serveme.chi.il.us> greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik) writes:
>In article <93008.095827U30633@uicvm.uic.edu> U30633@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>>
>>It would also be interesting to see how Chicago Polish fare compares with
>>the "real thing" since Chicago has the largest Polish population outside
>>of Warsaw...
>
>Sadly there are very few really "nice" Polish restaurant.  I guess
>your average American (myself included) doesn't think of Polish food
>when deciding where to go to impress a date.  The only exception is
>that one snazzy place on Milwaukee near Ashland.  The name escapes me
>at the moment.

The snazzy one would have to be Mirevas (sp?) at ~1300 N Milwaukee.  Get off
the Kennedy and go West 2 lights on Division.  Then turn North (NorthWest,
actually) at Milwaukee and go about 2 blocks.  It's a big white place with an
awning, valet parking and pretty expensive.
It's so expensive, I've never been there, but I've heard it's $50 if you're
cheap kinda place.


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From: ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: Vern's Garage...found it closed
Date: 9 Jan 93 05:30:35 CST
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

In article <1993Jan7.232209.28488@cbnewse.cb.att.com>,
harryo@cbnewse.cb.att.com (harold.r.holm) writes:
>Went down to North Pier for the first time the other
>day, anticipating trying a restaurant called Vern's
>Garage, which served BBQ stuff. It was only reviewed
>a couple months ago in Crain's Chi. Business, but
>to my chagrin I discovered it had closed a while
>ago. So I ended up at A-1 Texas Barbeque instead
>(fairly good, I thought).  
>
>Had anybody out there been to this place while it
>was open?  Did it succumb more to competition or
>to poor quality? 
>
>By the by, about Dick's Last Resort....is it 
>really as "rowdy 'n rude" as its ads make it
>out to be?
>
>*standard disclaimers, etc.*    
>                              H.R. Holm
 
 
        Of all the Melman links, I found A1 Bean Factory to be the weakest. The
selection looks good in print, but of all the places, it executes the whole
"mel-concept" the worst. Good Tex-Mex should be hot, not lukewarm on the plate.
It's Chi-Chis with a better publicist.
        As for the other place, I never heard of it.
 
        As for Dick's Last Resort....well, my girlfriend has a ex-college
roomate girlfriend who is now working for Harris Bank. She still thinks it is
1973. Not the way she dresses or looks, but she thinks the sexual revolution is
in full swing and AIDS is something you put over a cut finger. We went with her
once to Dick's, and let me say, it is the most aptly named pick-up joint in the
whole city. Chet Coppock clones walking around telling stories about high
school football and jokes that relate to the female anatomy. Bras hang from the
celing. It makes Hooters look like a Poetry Bar. I'm 25 and I was the youngest
person outside of the three of us. Anyhow, this girl (I'll make up a name and
call her Tammy) brings her business cards with her personal phone number on the
back and practically lines up at the door and gives them away. She's had people
give them back. And it isn't because she isn't good looking, she is. She just
oozes desperate. It's a cultural phenomena. My girlfriend and I ended up just
ditching her there, after she decided she was going home with someone who I
could of swore was Jerry Taft from NBC. He said his name was Dave, though.
        To sum it up, if you really want to know what it is like to attend a
disgusting frat party, cause you never have, or like them alot, go there. I
have to admit, I'm not a feminist by trade, but even Camille Paglia would gag
at this place.
 
ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:58:27 CST
From: <U30633@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: Best Polish place
 <1993Jan7.191132.1579@serveme.chi.il.us>

In article <1993Jan7.191132.1579@serveme.chi.il.us>, greg@serveme.chi.il.us
(Gregory Gulik) says:
>
>In article <93006.142537U30633@uicvm.uic.edu> <U30633@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>>Ok.  I've been to Busy Bee, Kuchnia Polska, and Orbit.  Can I get some
>>recommendations on your favorite Polish restaurant?  Real home made
>>stuff.  My friend from Warsaw is coming to Chicago and I want to impress
>>him!
>
>I agree with the other person who followed up that taking a
>Polish person to a Polish restaurant is probably not the best
>way to impress someone.
>
>But anyway, I live near the Perogi Inn, near the corner of
>Milwaukee and Lawrence.  It's not bad.
>
>My favorite one is Wigry, on Milwaukee, a couple blocks south of Belmont.
>Good food.  Small place, and it's kinda smoky (as in cigarettes), but
>not bad.  You better speak Polish, because it's rare for a waitress
>there to speak any English.
>
OK!  OK!!  Bad choice of words in my original post.  I should have said
"make him feel at home" instead of "impress."

It would also be interesting to see how Chicago Polish fare compares with
the "real thing" since Chicago has the largest Polish population outside
of Warsaw...

Joel Sanchez
University of Illinois at Chicago
From: behnke@FNALF.FNAL.GOV
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: Ambria
Date: 4 Jan 1993 15:18:46 GMT
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Reply-To: behnke@FNALF.FNAL.GOV
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalf.fnal.gov

In article <ddrumm.0l3p@amiganet.chi.il.us>, ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm) writes:
>Does anybody know if at Ambria, the staff lines up as you leave for tipping? I
>know that at some places of this caliber this is the case. I had plenty of
>friendly people offer me advice on this place, so I hope somebody will be nice
>enough to drop me a line. Tks.
> 


I'd just give them a hearty hand shake and a wicked slap on the back of thier
heads to maybe knock some sense into them for being so arrogant.  I KNOW I'll
never go there now.

mb

My opinions are my own, and MOST of them don't mean a thing !

mb
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From: dlg1@quads.uchicago.edu (deborah lynn gillaspie)
Subject: Re: Best Polish place
Reply-To: dlg1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:51:07 GMT

Joel,
If you have a car, try Zenona out on 32d and Harlem. You go in, and 
they serve you whatever MOM back in the kitchen has going, in VAST
quantities, for about $6 a head. It's a bit less fatty than the usual,
and there's always homemade soup and bread, kraut, potatoes, and an
assortment of meats. If you don't finish it, the waitstaff insists on
packaging it up and sending it home, "so you can make a sandwich later."
Definitely Polish spoken here! --Debbie

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From: acg@hermes.dlogics.com (Andrew C. Green)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: Directions to Pequods
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:52:14 CST
Distribution: chi
Organization: Datalogics, Inc., Chicago, IL

In article <electric.05xg@meltdown.chi.il.us>, electric@meltdown.chi.il.us 
(Rick Martinez) writes:
> In article <1992Dec30.191348.1@deep-13.gizmo.com>, maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
> writes:
>>1) Get in car and start engine.
>>2) Drive to destination, obeying relevant traffic laws.
>>3) Park car, turn off engine.
>>4) Put keys in pocket, lock doors.
>>5) Exit car and enter restaurant.
>
> Wouldn't it be much easier to just lock the doors first and then put the keys
> in his pocket?
> 
> Makes much more sense to me.

Personally, I would exit the car first, THEN lock the doors.

-- Andy
From: ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Pizza
Date: 8 Jan 93 06:20:20 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

I went to an old standby for Pizza recently, only to have one of the worst
experiences eating Pizza ever. Due's, down on Ohio. It was horrid. The pizza
had the consistency of mud. Looked like yellow and green slime.

Needless to say, I left. Fortunately, I found out that Due's is under new
ownership. The place is shot. It did give me the opportunity to try Lou
Malnattis pizza. Outstanding. Better than Bacino's, Leona's or Giordanos.
 
ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us
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From: beckley@apxpluto.att.com (owen.d.beckley)
Subject: Re: Directions to Pequods
Reply-To: owen_d_beckley@att.com
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: chi
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:53:52 GMT

In article <C0CD8D.B62@idm.com>, rjr@idm.com (Ray J Rueb) writes:
|> In article <1ht4vvINN5f7@fnnews.fnal.gov> behnke@FNALF.FNAL.GOV writes:
|> >Anybody out there have some easy directions to Pequods in Morton Grove.  I'm
|> >coming from Naperville
|> 
|> First, get their address.
|> Take I-88 to I-294 North.
|> I-294 North past toll gate to Dempster East.
|> Dempster East 5 miles past Waukegan rd.
|> Once past Waukegan rd, you'll enter a forest preserve area for about 1/2 mile.
|> Past the forest perserves is a bridge over the desplaines river and
|> some railroad tracks.
|> Past the tracks, 4 or 5 blocks on the right is Callie.
|> Turn right, about 3 blocks on the right.
|> 
|> Pequods is in the middle of a residential block about 1/2 a block before
|> Callie ends at Lincoln ave.

For the same Pizza, and MUCH easier directions, try the new Pequods in
Chicago:

I-88 East to I-290 East all the way into Chicago.
I-290 East to I-90/94 West (Kennedy Xway, which is really north).
I-90/94 West (north) to Armitage.
Armitage east to the first light, Ashland.
Ashland north to the 1st? light (just before the bridge), Webster.
Webster east to first light, Clyborn.
Park here.
Pequod's is the second or third door north of Webster on the east side
of Clyborn.

			owen.d.beckley@att.com
From: electric@meltdown.chi.il.us (Rick Martinez)
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: Directions to Pequods
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:42:47 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

In article <1992Dec30.191348.1@deep-13.gizmo.com>, maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
writes:
>behnke@FNALF.FNAL.GOV asks:
>> Anybody out there have some easy directions to Pequods in Morton Grove.  I'm
>> coming from Naperville
>
>Sure. 
>1) Get in car and start engine.
>2) Drive to destination, obeying relevant traffic laws.
>3) Park car, turn off engine.

>4) Put keys in pocket, lock doors.

>5) Exit car and enter restaurant.
>>don't-mention-it.max
Wouldn't it be much easier to just lock the doors first and then put the keys
in his pocket?

Makes much more sense to me.

:-) :-) :-)

Rich

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From: tsui@ils.nwu.edu
Subject: Re: Vern's Garage...found it closed
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:03:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.232209.28488@cbnewse.cb.att.com> harryo@cbnewse.cb.att.com
(harold.r.holm) writes:
>Went down to North Pier for the first time the other
>day, anticipating trying a restaurant called Vern's
>Garage, which served BBQ stuff. It was only reviewed
>a couple months ago in Crain's Chi. Business, but
>to my chagrin I discovered it had closed a while
>ago. So I ended up at A-1 Texas Barbeque instead
>(fairly good, I thought).  
>
>Had anybody out there been to this place while it
>was open?  Did it succumb more to competition or
>to poor quality? 

I think there just wasn't room for more than one BBQ restaurant in North Pier,
A1 is hardly ever really busy itself.

>
>By the by, about Dick's Last Resort....is it 
>really as "rowdy 'n rude" as its ads make it
>out to be?

its not as rude as people say it is.  Its mainly for yuppies who think they're
not yuppies (which is very yuppie-ish nowadays).  They do have a very good
Sunday Brunch buffet, huge amounts of food.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 09:55:23 CST
From: <U30633@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.eats
Subject: Re: a true chicago experience...

In article <holum-070193174055@mac151.ils.nwu.edu>, holum@ils.nwu.edu (Ann
Holum) says:
>
>Betsy Weatherhead, in responding to the request for the best polish place,
>asked for recommendations for relatively inexpensive restaurants which
>might also give out-of-towners a "true chicago experience".
>
>Two of my favorites in this category are
>
>Any Harold's Chicken Shack.   Harold's--over 50 of them--are legendary for
>their delicious friend chicken; as far as I know, they only exist on the
>south side of Chicago.  There are two in Hyde Park;  both on 53rd street.
>Although these two Harold's are within about a block of each other, there
>are always lines at both.
>
There is a Harold's near the UIC Campus on Harrison (570 W. Harrison).  I
always drive by and smile as I pass the place because they on their awning
is their phone number with "CALL A HEAD" in big black letters.

:-)

Joel
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From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Subject: Re: Best Polish place
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:25:45 GMT


Your friend from Warsaw is coming to Chicago and you want to impress
him by taking him to a Polish restaurant!  I'd take him to th 95th for
lunch for the view, to Giordano's for the pizza and to Ditka's for the
ambiance.  But that's just me.  OK, OK, Tulpe is my favorite for polish
fare-- a small restaurant a half a block west of Western on 69th.  

But seriously, what places do people suggest for out-of-towners on a 
budget seeking the true Chicago experience?  

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From: maxwell@deep-13.gizmo.com
Subject: Places to take out-of-towners (was Re: Best Polish place)
Organization: Gizmonics Institute Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:21:43 GMT
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betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead) writes:
>>But seriously, what places do people suggest for out-of-towners on a 
>>budget seeking the true Chicago experience?  

Kennesey's is a top notch Hungarian place in the basement of the Belmont
Hotel, corner of Belmont and Sheridan/LSD.

Or you could take your friend to the Heartland on Lunt, first building past the
L tracks going West from Sheridan.

For magnifique French Onion soup, try Le Creperie, across from the Century 
mall, just north of Diversy on Clark. 

and who could forget Fluky's hotdog stand?

mmmmm.max






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From: marek@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marek Lugowski)
Subject: Re: Best Polish place
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:33:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.210820.14017@news.rn.com>
Frank.Cackowski@bbs.rn.com (Frank Cackowski) writes:

>I sell a map through a national magazine titled "Polish Places in
>Chicago.  Map listing are tooooooo numerous to share here.  Anything
>special you want to eat?  Polish style of course!!  Many of the
>restaurants have specialties....little ambiance, but good food!  If you
>want to eat anything special, just e-mail and I'll make some
>suggestions for you.  I too suggest you travel lakeside if you want to
>impress, but your friends WILL want to visit the Milwaukee Avenue area,
>if anything, just to make them feel at home and perhaps translate for
>you if your Polish is non-existant or rusty.  Dowiedzenia!

Did you really mean to write "Dowiedzenia"?  It would mean "till knowing",
except it's not idiomatic.  ("Wiedza" = knowledge, "wiedzenie" = knowing").

"Do widzenia" or "Do zobaczenia" is the "Be seeing you" or "Bye", if you
have any intention of "widzenia".  If not, "zegnam", I bid you goodbye, is
a formal, extremely polite and cool way to sever ties. :)

Speaking of chow -- I want a place for white borsht (made of sourdough
bread), pierogi z miesem (ravioli/pot stickers w/ meat) and, this is
essential, rosol z lanymi kluskami or rosol z makaronem (chicken consome,
country style with egg noodles poured into the soup or thinly-cut hand-made
noodles).

Yum...

Czesc (ciao)
				-- Marek

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From: russ@gagme.chi.il.us (Russell J. Price)
Subject: Re: Pizza
Originator: russ@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 16:45:19 GMT

In article <ddrumm.0n9o@amiganet.chi.il.us> ddrumm@amiganet.chi.il.us (Daniel Drumm) writes:
>
>Needless to say, I left. Fortunately, I found out that Due's is under new
>ownership. The place is shot. It did give me the opportunity to try Lou
>Malnattis pizza. Outstanding. Better than Bacino's, Leona's or Giordanos.

If you're in the south suburbs, try Louisa's in Crestwood, on Cicero Ave. south
of Midlothian Turnpike.  It's one of the best pizzas I've tasted... and their
antipasto salads are wonderful.  It tends to be a bit crowded, but well worth
the wait.
-- 
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Chicago: where rivers leak and bridges fall up...
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From: harryo@cbnewse.cb.att.com (harold.r.holm)
Subject: Vern's Garage...found it closed
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: chi
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:22:09 GMT

Went down to North Pier for the first time the other
day, anticipating trying a restaurant called Vern's
Garage, which served BBQ stuff. It was only reviewed
a couple months ago in Crain's Chi. Business, but
to my chagrin I discovered it had closed a while
ago. So I ended up at A-1 Texas Barbeque instead
(fairly good, I thought).  

Had anybody out there been to this place while it
was open?  Did it succumb more to competition or
to poor quality? 

By the by, about Dick's Last Resort....is it 
really as "rowdy 'n rude" as its ads make it
out to be?

*standard disclaimers, etc.*    
                              H.R. Holm