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From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Subject: Re: Boldly Not Going Where No Man Has Not Gone Before
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 19:28:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr2.143450.20165@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>Since it's snowing, it must be April.
>
>The snowy mud and sloppy tracks around campus have reminded me of a
>question I've long pondered: why do architects/designers put paths
>in geometrically pleasing configurations instead of putting the
>paths where people will walk? This isn't as dramatic as building 
>a building with no doors, but outside my building, there is a path 
>so muddy it could pass as a pig wallow; nearby is an elegantly curving 
>unused sidewalk. 

A couple of universities have built new parts of campus and let traffic de-
termine the location of sidewalks.  There was one (ul meter registering now,
"can't win" category) that did this, and they put in sidewalks where the stu-
dents made dirt paths; a few years later they noticed that no one was using
the sidewalks and a whole new network of dirt paths had appeared.


Carrie "uncool to walk on concrete" Bryan   ceb@dbrus.unify.com	  x6244
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.science
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Cable TV cheater spotters (was Re: FCC Call letters)
Organization: Hewlett-Parkard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:20:16 GMT

dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
: In article <22499@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov writes:
: >A superheterodyne receiver like a TV generates and amplifies 
: >its intermediate-frequency (IF) signal all the time regardless 
: >of what channel you're on or where the rf input is coming
: >from.  The local oscillator (LO) frequency varies depending
: >on what channel you're watching, however.  If the cable uses
: >a channel on which no one in town broadcasts, and they kept
: >picking up the corresponding LO signal from your house, they
: >might be able to infer that you were watching the cable.  The
: >signal is very weak from an FCC type-accepted TV set, and
: >they'd have to have good equipment and skills to figger it out.
: 
: Of course, most cable boxes ouput onto channel 3 or 4 - the same
: frequency used by VCR's, camcorders, video games, computers, etc.
: They'd be hard pressed to make a case.  Especially if you use your
: cable-ready VCR as the tuner.
: 
: Now it might work if your cable-ready TV set is decoding it directly,
: but I really don't think that would be valid evidence anyway.

But, the cable box is then just doing the same thing your television
would be doing. It still has an oscillator doing the conversion of
the signals to channel 3. And the cable box is putting that signal
directly onto the cable. All they have to do is isolate your signal
from that of your neighbor, and they can easily detect it.

It does not take a lot of expensive equipment either. 

Of course, if they suspect that  you are using the cable without paying,
they will simply disconnect the cable. If you reconnect it, then they
have direct evidence for charging you with theft of services.

Bill
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From: ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,misc.kids
Subject: Re: Walla walla bing bang (was Re: Worm song?)
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:25:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: ASUACAD.92097.112555ICLNM
 <shirley.702198337@ipc3> <1992Apr2.152235.7448@ohsu.edu>
 <1992Apr4.010929.21383@ims.com>
Organization: Arizona State University

In article <1992Apr4.010929.21383@ims.com>, johnnyb@ims.com (Johnny Battle)
says:
>
>from around that time were the "One-eyed, One-horned, Flying Purple
>People-eater"
>and the "Itsy-bitsy, Teeny weeny, Yellow, Polka-dot Bikini" songs. I believe
>"Ahab the A-Rab," "Does Your Chewing Gum Loose Its Flavor on the Bedpost
>Overnight," and "Tie Me Kangaroo Down" also made it big just about then. Now,
>my question is: were the radio airways really dominated by this kind of song
>
Does the SPEARMINT Lose its Flavor on the Bedpost Overnight was a country music
staple much earlier, in the 40's I think.  Along with Yucka-Puck, Movin' On and
(my favorite) I've Got Tears in my Ears, Lyin' on my Back, Cryin' on my Pillow
Over You.  Of the others, "Ahab" and "Tie Me Kangaroo" were well into the 60's.
Other favorites were "Beep, Beep" and "Tan Shoes, Pink Shoe Laces".  I think
we remember them so well because they caught our fancy (temporarily) and
because they were a radical departure from the standard fare of the era.  It
is usually the unusual that we remember the best.
Loyd Means
Phoenix AZ
From: kja2192@tamsun.tamu.edu (Kevin Alexander)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Urine
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:33:01 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <1992Mar30.220250.12211@PA.dec.com> mikkelson@breakr.enet.dec.com (snopes) writes:
>
>I didn't see anyone mention it, but in the film _Medicine Man_, Sean Connery's
>character repeats the story of the candiru fish (I don't remember if that's
>what he calls it) to his female assistant while she's bathing in a river.  He
>recommends that she bathe with her panties on to prevent the fish's taking
>advantage of an available opening.
>
>- snopes
>

I think this fish is called GERBILUS SWIMUS -- it's apparently been banned
in California..
From: scm@harvee.UUCP (S. Mudgett aka little gator)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: faces at the window
Summary: \
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:46:04 GMT
Organization: gators 'r us
X-Version: Rodney's UUCP modules 02/11/90 V1.18

the following is condensed, without permission, from "a little house sampler",
by laura ingalls wilder(author of the little house on the prairie books) and 
laura's daughter rose wilder lane, edited by william t. anderson.

this story was written by rose wilder lane, who alleges that the parts of it 
that happened to her are true.

in 1904 rose, then a telegraph operator, was told the following story by her
friend gladys:

gladys, a fourteen year old orphan, had been taken in by a family with
a daughter her age.  the family moved to mayfield, kentucky, and rented
a house by a riverbank.  the family had terrible nightmares in the house, and 
one night they all saw faces looking in the kitchen window. gladys fled, never
to return.  end of part one.

in 1908, still a telegraph operator, rose met a customer from mayfield,
kentucky.  he told her there had been an old house on a riverbank there,
said to be haunted. it had been demolished, and the riverbank dug up
in order to put in new railroad tracks. the diggers found "dozens, or even
hundreds"  of skeletons of all ages, apparently murder victims.  he said
it had happened "last week", and was in all the local newspapers, and
reporters from as far away as saint louis and chicago had covered the story.
end of part two. by then rose no longer knew how to reach gladys.

in 1928 rose told the story to some friends. a foaf, whom she had never met
before that day, said he had grown up in mayfield, kentucky, and it was 
not near or on any river.  end of story as told by rose.


i looked in a two atlases, and both show a mayfield creek, which appears
to run through the town of mayfield, kentucky.
--
-- little gator aka S. Mudgett     email: scm@harvee.uucp
-- friend of a gator is a friend of mine
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From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.science
Subject: Re: FCC Call letters
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:23:47 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr8.211152.3865@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes...
>>|>In article <1992Apr4.025604.11675@e2big.mko.dec.com> moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:
>>|>   ObUL:  Many ABC stations have Channel 7, because ABC upper management 
>>|>   believed Channel 2-6 would be reassigned, and they wanted the lowest 
>>|>   frequency (because lower frequencies were received more clearly on the 
>>|>   more primitive equipment available).

>Channel 7 is the lowest of the CONTIGUOUS VHF channels.  Channels below 7
>aren't themselves contiguous but are split into two groups.  This is why

Clarifying somewhat:  The VHF TV station groups 2-6 and 7-13 are widely
separated in frequency, and in the old days of TV the difference in the
abilities of the standard TV set to receive the high VHF band was rather
worse than the low band, much like the ability of some older sets to receive
UHF is worse than VHF.  This is why deliberately choosing Channel 7 would
be unusual, if it was true.

There is a gap between Ch. 4 and 5, but it is much smaller than the Ch 6-7
gap, or 13-14.  The Ch. 4-5 gap isn't even wide enough for a TV channel.

>I haven't seen any good explanation about Channel 1 here, so I'll give what I
>have about it and hope for correction:

Consider yourself corrected (if Cecil Adams is right, anyway).
Cecil sez Ch. 1 was 44-50 MHz.

Copied without permission from _The Straight Dope_ by Cecil Adams:

Q: This has bothered me for a long time.  Why isn't there a Channel 1 on
television?

A:  It turns out there _was_ a Channel 1 once upon a time -- in 1945 to be
precise, when the FCC first allocated broadcast television frequencies.  Later,
however, the FCC repented its generosity and decided that TV was hogging too
much of the broadcast spectrum (each TV channel requires 600 times as much
bandwidth as an individual radio station does).  So the Channel 1 band (44-50
MHz) was reassigned for use by people with mobile radios.  Considering how
things have worked out, they would have done well to reassign Channels 2-13
while they were at it, thus sparing the nation such horrors as Green Acres ...

-Mike
From: tjw@vm2.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: A grim death (was burger bar accidents)
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:16:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Apr16.092407.3776@tcom.stc.co.uk>, tim@tcom.stc.co.uk (Tim Kennedy) writes:

> My dad worked in the steel mills of Scunthorpe as a student during his
> holidays,  and claimed to have witnessed a man falling into a vat of 
> molten iron and vapourising instantaneously.

Every once in a great while, someone is killed by falling in one of the vats
in the still working steel mills (pronounced: stillmills) here in Pittsburgh.

I can't vouch about vaporizing (or vapourising) but I'll bet there's no
open casket at the funeral home either.

Terry
From: tjw@vm2.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: The Philadelphia Experiment (?)
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:30:13 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <h8sjs1.sheaffer@netcom.com>, sheaffer@netcom.com (Robert Sheaffer) writes:

> Allen's letters carried the return address of a house in New Kensington,
> PA, the author's home town, so he investigated. 

For Peter's benefit, let me point out the New Kensington (also know as New Ken)
is a suburb of Pittsburgh.

Terry "It happened near Pgh, So it MUST be true" Wood
From: steinar@faust.solan.unit.no (Cindy Kandolf)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Falling bullets on Marilyn's Parade
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:48:20 GMT
Organization: Flodnak, Inc., Trondheim, Norway

The one and only snopes calls the following fact to our attention:
>In article <1992Apr6.231149.15738@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>,
>  hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes...
>
>>Asimov died this morning of kidney failure.
>
>And, strangely enough, nobody has seen Marilyn vos Savant since then.
>Coincidence?  You decide.

Were the ever photographed together?

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: ceb@dbrus.Unify.Com (Caroline E. Bryan)
Subject: Re: Taboo loot (was Re: VDB pennies (was Re: Initials on the Subway Token))
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 16:36:22 GMT

In article <31378@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ecovingt@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington) writes:
>Actually, while I hardly ever see $2 bills here in the USA, in Japan
>they are quite plentiful. Whenever I changed money to buy some
>dollars, I would get some $2 bills. I guess people here didn't like
>them for one reason or another, and so they got sent overseas.

$2 bills were more prevalent in the late 1800's, but they got a reputation
for being unlucky unless you tore a corner off each when you got them.  Pass
a $2 bill around often enough, and it'll reach someone who refuses to accept
it because all 4 corners have been torn off and s/he can't avert the bad
luck.  Since I first heard of this superstition when they came out again se-
veral years ago, it may be that its recollection made it unattractive.

> ... Final question: Does anyone out there know how they get the sukashi
> (the watermark) into the Japanese and Korean money? 

Probably the same way any watermark is put on any paper.  Do you have a 
reason for thinking the sukashi is not a regular watermark?


Carrie		ceb@dbrus.unify.com	x6244
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From: unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu (The Unknown Matt)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: In Search Of
Keywords: Might be a repeat.. I think it was posted only locally..
Date: 7 Apr 92 08:20:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <1992Mar31.110841.10516@husc3.harvard.edu> joltes@husc4.harvard.edu (
Richard Joltes) writes:
>Ah, "In Search Of."  One of Len Nimoy's biggest mistakes.  Tripe TV at its
>worst.

        Oh come on.. I think it's an interesting show..  Sure it's kinda
hokey, but it's interesting..

        (A&E is reshowing it lately.. I have not figured out exactly what
times it's on, and I don't have a TV section in my dorm this week, so
I can't look it up... But I catch it on A&E every once in a while.. it's cool).

        I know the shows are old.. Could someone look up in their
"guide to TV shows" book (I know there are a few) and tell me when this show
originally ran?  A&E cuts of the old beginning and end and has a new one,
without a copyright date.

        One I saw recently was interesting. They were looking for Atlantis..
While that's really hokey in itself, they found some "walls" and corridors
or somesuch, and I'm pretty sure it was off of Florida in coral beds..  So
how come this never came out in the 'real news'? (or did it?)  Presumably they
found a city there.. they had a little bit dug out on the show..

        Anybody have the foggiest idea what I'm talking about??
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Initials on the Subway Token
Organization: Hewlett-Parkard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 23:48:05 GMT

moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:
: In article <1992Apr3.022527.8743@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes...
: <: Not too unusual.  All modern US pennies have the initials of the designer
: <: "VDB" engraved on them.  (If you don't already know where the initials are,
: <: can you find them?)  I think all US coins have the designer's initials.
: < 
: <All the current coins may, I have not checked. However, that is not true
: <for the past. For example, the first Lincoln head cent minted in 1909 by
: <the San Francisco mint came in both S-VDB and S varieties.
: 
: That's why I said all modern pennies have them.  I knew there was some monkey
: business with the 1909 pennies and I remember the VDB on current pennies was
: not there for the older pennies.

I was just saying that your belief that "all US coins have the designer's
initials" was incorrect. 

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: I'm a lumberjack so I'm OK (was: Run out of town on a rail
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:57:40 GMT
Organization: My Daddy, My Doggy, and Me
X-Bytes: 

Derek Tearne writes:
>>
>>Consider also the great horrors of tarring someone.  A person is covered
>>by hot tar.  The pain must have been intense, and removing it with the 
>>available lye soap also difficult.
>
>Not to mention the ensuing cancers in those delicate little places.
>
>ObUL: Chimney sweeps and people who tar roads had high incidences of
>      cancer of the scrotum.
>
I believe cancer of the scrotum in chimney sweeps is to epidemiology
what falling apples are to celestial mechanics. 

(There...I think there's a month's worth of dumb joke material in that.
Now, back to work.)
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu>  
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From: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.science
Subject: Re: FCC Call letters
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:21:14 GMT
Reply-To: moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <SLAGLE.92Apr6103432@sgi417.msd.lmsc.lockheed.com>, slagle@lmsc.lockheed.com (Mark Slagle) writes:
|>In article <1992Apr4.025604.11675@e2big.mko.dec.com> moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:
|>   ObUL:  Many ABC stations have Channel 7, because ABC upper management 
|>   believed Channel 2-6 would be reassigned, and they wanted the lowest 
|>   frequency (because lower frequencies were received more clearly on the 
|>   more primitive equipment available).
|>
|>----
|>Seems more likely that, since they were the new kid on the block,
|>that they just took the lowest available UHF channel.  Either CBS 
|>or NBC would likely have had the lower ones in most cities before 
|>ABC was born.

Well, maybe (except channel 7 isn't UHF).  But in some places they could have
had a lower channel yet went for 7 instead.  Might be sour grapes.  Another
explanation might be they wanted better recognition and to be on the same
channel in as many places as possible.

-Mike
From: stein@erg.sri.com (Bruce Stein)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Turntable Trivia
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:02:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: erg.1992Apr8.140209.13896
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA

In article <1992Apr1.145353.322@hubcap.clemson.edu> hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (System Janitor) writes:
>
>>ObUL:  People's most notorious high school pranks involve physics classes.
>
>I don't know. It was a Chemistry class involving sulpher and magnesium
>where I ran everybody out. :-)
>
>-Mike

Mine as I recall involved yellow phosphorous and a fire extinguisher, assorted fire
alarms, and much detention.

Bruce
From: linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Earthquakes
Keywords: Carroll's Annotated AFU Rules and Procedures
Date: 10 Apr 92 21:38:02 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.fish,talk.abortion
Organization: Eat fish and die.
NNTP-Posting-Host: positive

Doug Caprette, somewhat more testily than is needed, retorts:
> Very funny.  I can do selective editing too!  Could ... use a ...
> ... look up ... the ... nit ... of an ...art .. on the rich... ?

Sorry Doug!  According to Title 14, section 260 (b) (10) (A) of "Carroll's
Annotated AFU Rules and Procedures", he who makes a wacky and or flakey
claim [ex. "an earthquake of magnitude x, is 'smaller' in California, than 
an earthquake of the same magnitude in other parts of the world"] is required 
to substantiate it himself.

Otherwise, you could just say that snuff films exist and it's my job to prove 
they don't.   So what does *your* library say about the Richter Scale?
Enlighten us, do!


--
----------------
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Have you got a light Mac?   No, but I've got a taupe-colored Sun.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (resU nwonknU ehT)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Why did the chicken cross the road?
Date: 17 Apr 92 12:13:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.33160
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <1992Apr16.203316.15888@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG> phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson) writes:
}I didn't think there was going to be any animal husbandry in this newsgroup.

	Hey, keep your personal life out of this!  Take it to 
alt.sex.bestiality
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Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 09:36:30 MST
From: <ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Scallops: Seafood or Spinefood?
 <7937@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>

In article <7937@sun13.scri.fsu.edu>, nall@sun8.scri.fsu.edu (John Nall) says:
>
>   Changing the subject....for a REAL afu, my grandmother claims that
>HER grandmother experienced an earthquake in Mississippi back in the
>early 1800's and no amount of explaining about continential drift, fault
>lines, and the Pacific Ring of Fire will convince her otherwise :-)

That's because she is right.The New Madrid fault, located in southern
Illinois, near the Mississippi River, has been the source of a number of
earthquakes.  The one your grandmother is referring to was estimated to have
been over 8.0 on the Richter scale.  It change the route of the Mississippi
AND Missouri rivers (forming Horseshoe Lake in Kentucky) and was felt for
hundreds of miles.  Experts say that such a quake today could have devastating
effects as far away as Chicago.  There are occasional temblors originating
from the New Madrid fault today:  One occured about a year ago, shortly after
a "scientist" had predicted that there would be a major quake.  I remember
feeling a tremor in Chicago in 1972, and in Kansas City in 1969.
Loyd Means
Phoenix AZ
From: koomlsm@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Cow Tippin'
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:25:44 CDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <92097.114055ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET>, <ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
> In article <4APR199223260066@gamma.is.tcu.edu>, djohnson@gamma.is.tcu.edu
> (Darryl Johnson) says:
>>
>>I didn't grow up on a diary farm, but I thought bulls had horns,
>>and cows didn't.
>>
> Or any other farm, apparently.  Cows definitely have horns.  And are quite
> willing to use them.
> Loyd Means
> Phoenix AZ
there are other means of "cow tipping" as demonstrated at the 13th St. Cafe,
April 1, 1992.  A gathering of folk studies students turned a member of the
'Sacred Cows' duo on head.  example of literal cow tipping.








Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: SNUFF FILMS sighted in TIME MAGAZINE!!! (Dworkin and MacKinnon, too)
Organization: Hewlett-Parkard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:43:42 GMT

tjw@vm2.cis.pitt.edu writes:

: Good thing he didn't see a SNUFF FILM!  What would have happened if he had
: heard about CRAIG SHERGOLD or received a chain letter.  I shudder to think!
: 
: Terry "SNUFF FILMS ARE NOT MADE BY THE TOBACCO INDUSTRY" Wood
: 
And I'll bet that her boyfriend squeezed the Charmin also.

Of course, her boyfriend was a perfect gentleman until he read that
filthy ungodly pornography.

Bill "Dworkin for dogcatcher" Nelson