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From: Richard Thomas - STUCS204@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090
Subject: It'll all start again.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:38:49 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom

Just to pre-empt *any* mail on the subjet that will arise.
Just because there is a dramatised Guards Guards, dont go comparing the book/ra
dio qualities compared to that of the Hitchhikers Guide Book/radio qualities.*P
lease*.
       stucs204@uk.ac.bham.ibm3090 (JANET)    \ aka Richard Thomas
       atucs204@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk (INTERNET)  \
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Good Omens (error?)
From: system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 22:22:29 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

fmonro@neumann.une.edu.au (F J Monro) writes:

> Can this be coincidence, Given the discussion in the book about the 
> proofreading errors in the bible? Were the authors trying to make the 
> first edition worth more by including subtle errors? Or was the proof
> reader taking revenge for the slanders on his/her proffession? Or 
                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> perhaps a higher (or lower) power took a hand.....

Or perhaps its just LIFE.

And on the subject of Cleopatra and sitting on a snake. Reference was
made to it being an adder. More specifically, it was an asp, which she
clutched to her bosom. As asps are particularly venomous, this was
an effective [and reputedly painless] way for her to achieve her desired
objective of death before dishonour. There are no reports on the asps
view, but I speculate that it would have been very traumatic for ir.


Apparently a *SPOILER FOLLOWS* for Small Gods (very minor)

Were the steam engines at Ephebes actually built? If my memory serves 
EITHER there was a steam engine built to open and close very large 
temple doors, or there were plans for same.

In either case, it never caught one because of the greater 
cost-effectivness of slave-power.

Yes, the home of democracy, as long as you're mail and freehold.


-- 
  Wayne McDougall, BCNU
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From: okolbu@ifi.uio.no (Olav Kolbu)
Subject: Re: Radio Play                          
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:54:30 GMT
Originator: okolbu@gille.ifi.uio.no

Well, it was less than a wet string between BBC Radio 5 and snowy Oslo
today. But somehow, I managed to listen to the whole play, only occationally
cut off completely. Not much to say about the play really, everything
more or less straight out of the book, with some strange Hitchhikeresque
sound effects (or was that just bad reception...?) The only brilliant 
part was the accent used by the cast members. LOVE Carrots Welsh(?)!

Any plans on releasing the whole series on tape/CD?

		Olav (still haven't read L&L) Kolbu
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From: andy@csqx.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Andy Thomas)
Subject: `Guards! Guards!' on BBC Radio
Organization: Computer Science Dept, Royal Holloway, University of London
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:37:46 GMT

Just a quick note to tell those of you who:

 a) like Terry Pratchett, and

 b) live in the UK

 that the BBC are broadcasting an adaptation of `Guards! Guards!' in 6 weekly
parts on Radio 5 starting from next Monday, 23 November at 9:30pm.  The first
episode is an hour long, so draw from that what you will ..

 My only complaint?  That it's not going to be on FM ..  Still, there's always
the repeats to look forward to.

andy
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From: daniel@borland.com (Dan Veditz)
Subject: Another question
Originator: daniel@genghis.borland.com
Organization: Borland International
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:34:38 GMT


And finally, has this group gone completely dead,
or is it just us?  Haven't seen anything since
Nathan sent out the FAQ and Bibliography.

-Dan Veditz
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: karlg@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Karl Geppert)
Subject: Re: Kirby (was Re: Film(s) of the Book(s))
Organization: Monash University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:16:20 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.121427.5985@infodev.cam.ac.uk> dkf11@cl.cam.ac.uk (D.K. Fellows) writes:
>Posting for someone who can't...
>
>From: Jon Roch-berry <dyhec@uk.ac.westminster>
>Organization: University of Westminster
> 
>In article <1992Nov13.000127.25202@infodev.cam.ac.uk> you write:
> 
>>>Does Josh Kirby have any books of artwork out?
>>> 
He has at least two out - um, something like
	"The Josh Kirby Poster book" and
	"In the garden of unnatural delights" - this one has a bit of text
discussing the art and some its inspirations.  An interesting read as well as some pretty good
artwork !

Karl Geppert                
Hons Comp Sci              Monash University
email karlg@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au

I haven't lost my mind - I have a backup on tape.


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From: johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis)
Subject: Re: Re : PRATCHETT vs adams, If a tall stranger etc
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:34:14 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <922523102536@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk> STUCS204@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090 writes:
>
>#If a tall stranger gives you a very big diamond, a large bunch of flowers and
>a very expensive box of chocolates then, on past reading, I'd kick him in the
>**** and run like hell#

Ah yes.  A trick I saw being used in promotional trailers for a juvenile film.

Just one teeny little question - why is kicking a skeleton in the groin supposed
to have any effect other than severely bruising the foot of the kicker?
-- 
John Francis                                 johnf@apollo.hp.com
with 9 cats to feed, I don't have time to think up a clever .sig
From: ano@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Adrian Ogden)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Radio Frequencies and Guards Guards.
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:32:55 GMT
Organization: University of Reading

leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart) writes:

>STUCS204@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090 writes:

>> Terry Pratchett's Discworld novel,dramatised in six parts, with
>> Martin Jarvis,J ohn Wood,Melvyn Hayes (as Corporal Nobby) and Helen
>> Atkinson-Wood.

>Oh gosh, please help me: "Helen Atkinson-Wood" ... I just *know* I've
>seen this name before. But where? Isn't she a (comedy) actress? Isn't
>she married to Rowan "Blackadder" Atkinson?

Married to him? I've heard nothing about that. However, if memory serves
me correctly she starred in "Blackadder the Third" as Mrs Miggins(?), and
also in Radio 4's "Radioactive", where she played a radio presenter
called Anna Daptor.


<<  Adrian Ogden -- "Sic Biscuitus Disintegrat" -- ano@csres.cs.rdg.ac.uk  >>
From: ans0@aber.ac.uk (Austin Newton Shackles)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Colour of Magic Graphic Novel
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:44:25 GMT
Organization: University College of Wales, Aberystwyth

The LOTR animation was pretty reasonable...except that the hobbits looked a bit too human to me...

the one that really disappointed me was the film version of HHGTTG, ford prefect looked NOTHING like i imagined him, and zaphod's 2nd head was something of a farce...

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From: daniel@borland.com (Dan Veditz)
Subject: Any clue when WA arrives in the US?
Originator: daniel@genghis.borland.com
Keywords: Witches Abroad
Organization: Borland International
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:33:16 GMT

Does anyone know when we'll get Witches Abroad in
North America, preferably the US?

Usually it's just after the UK paperback has come
out--has that been released?

When does Canada get the books in relation to England?
Do they have to wait for the paperback or do they
get the hardback also?

-Dan Veditz
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From: wald@theory.lcs.mit.edu (David Wald)
Subject: Reaperssessing the title (was Re: lots o' questions&annotations for Mort)
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:06:30 GMT

In article <leo.721644482@galaxy> leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl writes:
>thompsmr@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Thompson) writes:
>
>> 	Title "Reaper Man" - play on "Repo Man", a film by Alex Cox.
>
>This used to be mentioned in earlier versions of the APF, but was
>removed after people pointed out to me that is just the opposite:
>*'Repo Man'* is a pun on the phrase 'reaper man', which apparantly has
>been around for quite a while...

Can we get a ruling from TP on this?  (Or did we get one that I
missed?)  I know that "Repo Man" was the first thing I thought of when
I saw the book title, since I wasn't familiar with the term "Reaper
Man," in that form.  While the film title may have come from "Reaper
Man" originally, it wouldn't surprise me to find out that the book
title was a take off on the film title.

-David
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From: mcodogno@nyx.cs.du.edu (Maurizio Codogno)
Subject: Re: lots o' questions&annotations for Mort
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 10:51:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.090605.20065@infodev.cam.ac.uk> Neil.Dodgson@cl.cam.ac.uk (Neil Dodgson) writes:
>This is similar to the English public school boy's assumption that
>everyone can speak some Latin.  There are very few places in, for
>example, New Zealand where Latin is taught, and fewer where it is
>actually useful :-).
>

the worst thing is that there are some Pratchett's fans who actually
understand pidgin Latin (or French, BTW) more than some obscure
English literature reference. 
English is not my first language: neither do I actually *speak* English
in everyday life. So, when I read TP books, I usually have no problems
in "foreign" gags, while I struggle against "simpler" ones.
 
So my opinion is that TAP should contain both kinds of explanations!
--
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From: lsh129@cck.coventry.ac.uk (MIAOW)
Subject: Re: Okay, let's get those flamethrowers out of the closet....
Organization: Black clothes, Hatpins and Napalm.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:17:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.022441.5742@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg) writes:
>Am I the only person in the world who 1) reads and discusses fantasy, 2) knows
>how to appreciate "real" literature, and 3) has a keenly-honed appreciation
>for Western European mythology, but 4) absolutely can't stand anything written
>by J.R.R. Tolkien?
>
>I mean, I appreciate the guy's scholarship and ability, but I *hate* the way
>he wrote.  Alternately too chatty and too self-consciously epic.  And I wish
>he hadn't thought he could write poetry....
>
Ye Gods!  I thought I was alone.  Truly...
Lord of the Rings was a tour de force (sp?), an absolute epic.
But... somehow it just left me cold, don't know why.
Could've been the characterisation... it looked like he'd spent  so  long
on  the historical background etc (and the bad poetry :-) that somehow he
forgot to give his most of his characters traits/emotions that the reader
could sympathise with.
Or maybe it's just me...
Or maybe we were'nt supposed to sympathise...:-)

Cat.

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From: imccall@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ian McCall)
Subject: Re: Amazing Maurice and his Educated Rodents
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:11:46 GMT

In article <memo.753036@cix.compulink.co.uk> tpratchett@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>ostensibly as a children's book (nudge, nudge)

You mean like the Gnome trilogy was supposed to be? Well, as it -was-
actually, but I still enjoyed it immensely.

Cheers,
	Ian
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
From: kjackson@cix.compulink.co.uk (Keith Jackson)
Subject: Re: lots o' questions&annotations for Mort
Reply-To: kjackson@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:43:00 +0000


In article <BxrIsp.Ks8@NeoSoft.com>, peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <1992Nov14.201417.14868@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth L. Blumberg) writes:
>> Except, darn it, that James Watt *DIDN'T* invent the steam engine! He just
>> invented the dual-action heat box (or some stupid name like that, I forget),
>
>The "condenser". Previously, the exhausted steam was vented to the athmosphere.
>With the condenser you (a) don't need to feed a river into your steam engine
>(which makes it more efficient, and practical for transport), and (b) the
>condensing steam pulls the piston back up. It still needs a flywheel, but
>it's not nearly as important. And, yes, it was apparently condensing steam
>from a kettle that set him off on the right track.

<FX Mechanical Engineer mode ON>

Not entirely true, Peter. I saw a Boulton & Watt beam pumping engine (of 
1830 odd!) working this spring. It is one of a pair used to pump water from
a reservoir to a higher section of canal until the 50's and is now run by
enthusiasts. It used the weight of the pump-pistons to pull back the beam
after the power stroke and, as such, needs no flywheel.

The condenser worked on the /power/ stroke, though. The lower half of the 
cylinder is filled with steam as the piston rises. Condenser water is then
introduced as steam is introduced into the top half. With a piston about
three feet in diameter you get a fair amount of shove, even at the *9psi* 
the boilers produced. This pair of engines can pump a ton of water every
10 seconds or so each!

Keith

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From: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart)
Subject: Re: lots o' questions&annotations for Mort
Reply-To: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:19:25 GMT

thompsmr@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Thompson) writes:

> 	Whoa - There are a lot of people out there that don't know a
> single word of Spanish or French (Most Non-Europeans, and quite a
> few English people, for example), so why not include it? After all,
> I thought the Split-screen morris minor annotation was dead obvious.

Didn't you *read* my original reply? I specifically *thanked* you for
causing me to make up my mind about including those references into the
next APF version. 

> 	Sorry if the rest of the references were crap, but there we go.

Touchy, touchy. 

Shall we try to keep this friendly & pleasant? We're all doing this for
fun, remember?

-- 
Leo Breebaart  (leo @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 06:51:18 +0100
From: Benedikt_Heinen@firemark.fido.de (Benedikt Heinen)
Subject: Re: Kirby (was Re: Film(s) of the Book(s))
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
X-Comment-To: (Donal K. Fellows)
Organization: Firemark.BBS - 1st Atari ST Node Aachen 

 >> Does Josh Kirby have any books of artwork out?
 DK> Yes. I have seen them, but my budget is too low for me to get them.

Name: In the Garden of Unearthly Delights
ISBN: 1-85028-154-8
Cost: 9.95 pound sterling

143 pages of Kirby artwork...

yours,
       Benedikt

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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Subject: Re: The Last Starfighter and the Beast
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:49:31 GMT

car-a@minster.york.ac.uk writes:

>I had no idea Beauty and the Beast was done by computer, I haven't 
>actually seen it.  Seems like a hell of a waste of time and energy
>for a disney cartoon.

Waste? WASTE?! Who's ever heard of Hollywood wasting anything?

But seriously: You don't waste energy by using a computer for animation.
In fact you can do lot's of things much more efficient. In cheap TV-pro-
ductions you usually use them to construct every second picture or so.
In Beauty and the Beast they used it to make the background move. And
you talk about disney cartoons like they were something for kids. Well,
you may stick to the "mature" stuff, like Starfighter and Terminator 2.


May the Cool Be with You!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
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From: ins450m@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (T.F. Eccles)
Subject: Re: The Spell
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:56:40 GMT

GRS00021@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (APHiD) writes:

>In <1dgijiINNf0@violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk> maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk writes:

>> 2) How does Rincewind get back into the UU B4 S? as in TCOM he's been
>> thrown out!

>What the heck is S?

Sourcery? It was mentioned with another title?
Eccles
From: STUCS204@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Suns orbits etc etc
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:21:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom

The problem depends on how the sun orbits the discworld. If the sun orbits orou
nd the rim then the descriptions are accurate. If the sun obits in such a way t
hat it cuts the discworld 'in half' then the climates are all wrong. Of course
the problem only arises because we are applying physics *as we know it* to the
problem but I'm sure that there are several physical laws that sort of rule out
 a flat discworld anyway. Therefore the problem doesnt arise really. Speaking o
f physics. Sir Terry (in a few years anyway) was only a publicity officer for t
he electricity board so I think that his knowledge of celestial mechanics and h
yperdimensionality (WHAT A LOVELY WORD) is probably somewhat lacking. This of c
ourse does not stop his ideas from sounding *very* realistic (although I feel t
his is probably due to a fevered brain on his part rather than 2 and a half yea
rs of an Astrophysics degree on mine (possibly))
 Perhaps Terry himself will give his views on the subject.(I hope so)

        Yours with a pint *yes a pint* of Scumble
        and a slowly melting pool of change.

         stucs204@uk.ac.bham   - aka Richard.

#Smoke me a kipper.I'll be back for breakfast#
From: ST102315@brownvm.brown.edu (Jake)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Flaming Nuclear Reactors
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:06:15 EST
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
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News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

Not an annotation, just a question...

On p.183 of _The Colour of Magic_, the following is printed:

"...Dr. Rjinswand, 33, . . . , and a specialist in the breakaway
oxidation phenomina of certain nuclear reactors."

Does this in fact mean, as I think it does, that he studies what
happens when a nuclear reactor burns down?

Interesting...

-jwgh

(And yes, I've read the FAQ.)
From: garton@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Simon Garton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Suns, orbits, & all that
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:54:41 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <alien.00o4@acheron.amigans.gen.nz> alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith) writes:
>Besides the bit about the sun travelling faster than light (personally I've
>always assumed that the magical field, at least in its full strength, doesn't
>extend that far), there's another little problem...
>
>It's well established that the outer rim of the Discworld is tropical while
>the hub (around Dunmanifestin) is polar. But it should be the other way
>around -- on average, the sun is closer to the centre than any point on
>the rim, so the centre should be warmer. (I worked this out years ago
>after I first read "Strata"; I remember the general result but I've long
>since lost the actual calculations.)
>

oh boy whats this thread doing back again ? we finished this
about two weeks ago , and now it looks like the original poster
has decided to repost exactly the same article.......

yawnnn ..... maybe we should start crossing to alt.talk.bizarre
again. alt.alien.visitors would probably suit the poster :
check out his address

we need more puns ! 

                       


Terry























well, my name is Simon actually, but thought that might make you
look back at the posting address again. Hi to Terry Tao who
is always doing that to me.
From: mcramm@dct.ac.uk (McRamm)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Addams Family in Badass ?
Date: 20 Nov 92 09:36:58 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Has anyone noticed the name of the actor who played Pugsley in the Addams
Family TV series?


It was................


*Weatherwax*


And I thought the redoubtable Miss W. disapproved of such goin's on!

Wonder if there could be a DW/AF crossover (of course some could say we already
have one, after all doesn't Lurch remind you of SOMEONE ?)

-- 
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Then I was gone, and in my place - a cat with green eyes.

    )     <-- Cheshire Smiley?
From: andyh@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andrew Holyer)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Witches Abroad annotation
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:47:50 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex

In article <1992Nov23.110911.1@vax1.tcd.ie> eaobrien@vax1.tcd.ie writes:
>
> Tentative annotation for Witches Abroad...
>
> Baron Saturday .. a reference to Baron Samedi, a voodoo Death figure who
> wears top hat and tails, if I recall correctly.
>
> one two three..
>
> I'M..
> PUTTING ON MY TOP HAT
> TYING UP MY WHITE TIE etc :-)
>
> Somebody who knows more about voodoo might be able to tell us if
> any of the names of Mrs. Gogol's gods are significant (Stride Wide Man &c.)
>

Apropos of which, I suppose we should point out the "Samedi Nuit Mort"
joke...

-&.



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