From: sackman@plains.nodak.edu (Gleason Sackman)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.edtech
Subject: November Hunt Results - 3 of 4
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:24:57 GMT
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 WAIS comp.internet.library
 Search using keywords "bibliography novice books internet"

 Subject: -17- Are there any books about using the Internet?
 Date: 14 Sep 92 00:00:01 EST

 Yes.  There are a growing number of reference books available on the subject
 of using the Internet.

 TITLE: Zen and the Art of the Internet: A Beginner's Guide, 2nd ed
 AUTHOR: Brendan P. Kehoe
 PUBLISHER: Prentice Hall
 ISBN: 0-13-010778-6
 PAGES: 112
 PRICE: 22.00 $US

 TITLE: The Whole Internet User's Guide & Catalog
 AUTHOR: Ed Krol
 PUBLISHER: O'Reilly
 ISBN: 1-56592-025-2
 PAGES: 400
 PRICE: 24.95 $US

 TITLE: Internet: Getting Started
 SERIES: Volume 1, Internet Information Series
 AUTHOR: [SRI International, Network Information Systems Center]
 PUBLISHER:
 ISBN: 0-944-604-15-3
 PAGES:
 PRICE: 39.00 $US

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 ftp nic.merit.edu  (username: anonymous; password: guest)
 cd introducing.the.internet  (change to that directory)
 get intro.internet.biblio (get the file)

 Note:
 1. This file was created on October 14, 1992.
 2. It is for beginners.  The title is:  FYI on Introducing the Internet---
    A Short Bibliography of Introductory Internetworking Readings
                  for the Network Novice
 3. If you ftp from a PC, or a VAX account, you should change the file
    name so that it fits the file name requirement of the system.  For
    example, from a DOS PC, you should enter the following command to
    get the file.
    get intro.internet.biblio internet.bib

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 I used Archie to locate the bibliography:

 telnet archie.rutgers.edu
 login archie
 at the archie> prompt, enter: set search sub
 at the archie> prompt, enter: prog biblio

 Had to look through several hundred file listings to find it!


 ====>    anonymous ftp to nis.nsf.net
          cd /introducing.the.internet
          file is intro.internet.biblio

 Note:  The authors of this document, the Internet Engineering Task Force, do
        *not* run the Internet.  There is no one body governing the Internet.

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 anonymous ftp nnsc.nsf.net
 cd resource-guide
 get resource-guide.txt.tar.Z
 quit

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 Keys: Internet, bibliography, novice users
 Ideas: One of the rules of the Internet is that the more people are likely to
 ask for something, the more places it will be.  Hence the ubiquitous
 Frequently Asked Questions files.  The first way that occured to me to do this
 was focus on the word Internet and simply:

 Answer:
 telnet quake.think.com
 login as wais
 select 160 Inernet-drafts [hit spacebar]
 Keyword search on "novice" [hit "w" to get keyword search]
 select 001 "draft-ietf-userdoc2-fyi-novice-01"

 [Reading this document leads you to all kinds of other things, I couldn't
 resist]

 ftp nic.merit.edu
 cd /introducing.the.internet
 get intro.internet.biblio [there's also some great other documents in here
 like access.guide]

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 Anonymous ftp to HYDRA.UWO.CA
 cd /libsoft

 Two files are possible candidates:

 get STANTON.BIB
 get NETWORKING_BIBLIO.TXT

 Stanton's bibliography is really aimed at librarians and information
 scientists, so it might be a tad much.

 Elliott Parker's bibliography (the second one) is much more aimed at
 the novice.  He introduces it:

    This is some documentation on networking. There has been no
    attempt to make it comprehensive and the main focus is on
    material of use to the beginning networker, rather than
    engineers, network managers, or researchers. This is not a
    formal bibliography.  The selection is somewhat eccentric and
    eclectic, but it is the type of material I wish I had known about
    when just beginning to use the networks.  Some of the citations
    are just fun to read.

 so this is probably the one referred to.  These certainly aren't the only
 sources out there.

 BTW, Advanced Network & Services, Inc has an archie that I used to find the
 stanton bibliography.  Interestingly enough, it completely missed the
 primary libsoft site maintained by Gord Nickerson at the School of Library and
 Information Science at the University of Western Ontario (HYDRA.UWO.CA)

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 7. (5) In what year was Justice Byron R. White appointed to the
 U.S. Supreme Court?

Winner's Answer

      Use WAIS, telnet to quake.think.com and login as WAIS.
      Scroll to US-Judges (pegun.law.columbia.edu) which is
      currently 298. Do a keyword search, "Byron White."
      5 items are retrieved. The top entry lists Byron
      R. White and states his appointment by Kennedy in
      1962.

Other Answers
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      telnet info.umd.edu
      login: gopher
      select Info-Gopher Interface
      select Government
      select US
      select Supreme Ct
      select justices

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    gopher (telnet) to fatty.law.cornell.edu (login: gopher) to connect
    to the experimental gopher site of Cornell Law School.  Select
    Government Agencies: Information and Reports/ and then US Judges'
    Database.  Search for Bryan White, and you'll retrieve the same
    record as the previous one.

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 Keys: Justice Byron R. White, Supreme Court, appointed
 Ideas: I did not think going to the same source as in Question 1 would make
 sense because this is not information you would find in the decisions.  I
 learned in the WorldWideWeb that there are two ways to approach information:
 by subject and by server.  I thought this might be a good time to try by
 server, so I looked around in a copy of Hytelnet [very nice tool, I have it at
 home on my PC and our systems librarian mounted it on the university gopher,
 complete with connections to the sites], which got me:

 Answer:
 telnet sparc-1.law.columbia.edu
 login as lawnet
 select 3 Law School Info Server
 select 10 [spacebar] us-judges
 type w for keyword search
 keywords: white
 select 001 U.S. Supreme Court, Judge Byron R. Whit
 "Appointed by: Kennedy in 1962"

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 8. (5) Which country has a higher infant mortality rate, the
 United States, or Singapore?

Winner's Answer

      Answer is the United States.
      Use WAIS. Telnet to quake.think.com and login as WAIS.
      Select World Fact Book at cmns.moon.think.com (which
      is currently Source number 318).
      Keywords: Singapore United States infant mortality
      Pick reference for Singapore Geography and scan until
      section on Infant Mortality: It lists 8 deaths per
      1000 (in 1991). Pick reference for United States
      Geography and scan until section on Infant Mortality:
      It lists 10 deaths per 1000 (in 1991). I double
      checked the next listing in WAIS, "WORLD91A" which
      looked as if it had slightly more recent data but
      it gave exactly the same data for infant mortality.

Other Answers
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 This may be a weird method, but it worked :)
 anonymous ftp to site: nic.funet.fi
 cd to directory:  /pub/doc/World_Facts
 In that directory are the facts about all countries.
 get the files:  Singapore and United_States
 In them are the numbers for infant mortality.
 US: 10/1000   Singaport:  8/1000

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      telent info.umd.edu
      login: gopher
      select Info-Gopher Interface
      select Government
      select Factbook91
      select Countries
      singapore #194, US #230

      US - Infant Mortality Rate 1991; 10 deaths/1,000 live births
      Singapore - Infant Mortality Rate 1991; 8 deaths/1,000 live births

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  telnet panda.uiowa.edu (picked this one out of a hat too)
    select: Online Info Sources
    select: Online Libraries
    select: Reference Works
    select: CIA World Fact Book 1991
    select: S
    select: Singapore
    read to find: 8 deaths/1000 live births 1991

 same to get to U; then select United States; 10 deaths/1000 live births 1991.

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