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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: Words-L Weekly Digest
Originator: rita@eff.org
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Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:18:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.164014.10141@news.columbia.edu> tjl9@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Thomas J Lee) writes:

>	What about the secret decoder ring, and the licentious magazine of
>the month club?

	The secret decoder ring can't be exported, and Words-l has an
international membership.

Rita
Packing...




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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 01:42:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.225357.9397@netsys.com> jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas) writes:
>
>boswell@well.sf.ca.us writes:
>
>(stuff deleted)
>
>Welcome aboard the next best thing to alt.wierd, Gerard.

	No, not welcome aboard.  I booted him.  See ya.
I just won't stand for it.











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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cleaning up the environment....
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> In Chicago, a major step has been taken to remove pollutants from the
> environment. Bears coach Mike Ditka was fired.

        Is Saturday Night Live live this week?  If so, I wonder if they'll have
        a Bill Swerski skit -- I can see those platters of kielbasa draped in
        black...

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Subject:      Re: Famous Horses

>Then of course there are Don Quixote and Sancho Panza. But
>they didn't quite it to the old west, did they?

Now I what was the name of that horse? Damn, the only horse name
I am even remotely interested in, and I have forgotten it. A-some-
thing, I think.

tushar
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Thank You, Ruth
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On Mon, 11 Jan 1993, karsten wrote:

> Did you visit Jay Leno on your way back to Texas?

No, if I had the safeword would have been "Arsenio."

-abh
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In a previous article, torkel@SICS.SE () says:

>  Ken writes:
>
>  [interminable baseball babbling]
>
>  I never should have set you guys off.
>
Probably not, but you did.  It's kinda late to be lockin' that barn
door now, Torkel.  THem ponies'll be comin' back when they darn well please.
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Subject: Re: abh has perfect moment
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              at Jan 3, 93 1:32 am

> Rashmi, while you were away Rita announced that she and Nico are to be
> married on January 10 and will then go to Spain for a honeymoon, leaving Jan
 12.

Thanks for the information, Joan.  Less than a week away - how are your nerves,
Rita?  How did you resolve the last name dilemma?

-rashmi
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In a previous article, harwell@TENET.EDU (Anne Burton Harwell) says:

>> Traffic was nonexistant.  Then, all of a sudden. *BOOM*!!!  There were over
>> 100 messages waiting for me tonight....
>
>Simple. I'm back.
>
All hail the List Metamucil!  Oh, you're referring to that bandwidth piggish
stuff....  Maybe both?

<ducking behind a grumpy Edinburgher>

<this is your cue, Graham - start roaring, if hoarsely and with timeouts to
blow your nose>

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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: News from Kenya
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: Have you been following the presidential election in Kenya?
: Although the results have been disputed, the guy in the lead
: appears to be a man named Moi. I hope he is declared the
: winner if for no other reason than he'll be able to say
: "L'etat c'est Moi!"

If that's Arap Moi, well, great way to chose your foreign policy man.

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From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@FLARE.CS.UMB.EDU>
Subject: Re: Three-key Sequence Nonsense
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> What kind of keyboard has PF keys?  I've never seen one.  I have, OTOH,
> seen people using F keys while referring to PF keys.  I find this interesting.

I'm sitting here at my genuine DEC VT-100 which has 4 PF keys -- I only
use them when I'm on VMS -- they execute various editor functions (the VMS
editor is like emacs in that pressing any 'standard' key enters that ASCII
character into the buffer, but editor commands are done from the keypad rather
than with control or escape sequences as in emacs -- all this for info
purposes only - let's not start a vi vs. emacs war)

Aren't these keys common IBM PCs and their clones?

Joan
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:53:36 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: New Orleans
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> What about the 3rd wkend in May?

That's fine with me.  I like hot weather.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:11:49 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Message For Karen
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> > comparison of Karsten and Bernard.  :-)
> I'm the one who fixes the hardware.  Bernard fixes the software.

It had to do with peas and stuff.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 12:23:43 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cronings: (was: News from a newly non-computer...)
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On Mon, 4 Jan 1993, Natalie Maynor wrote:

> Is it polite to invite people to your own croning?

Not so much in observation of courtesy but out of necessity. Why else
would anyone go to one of these things?

> Are cronings always in the woods?

Works for me.

> What does one wear to a croning?

Nothing at all.

Bring the b1g doGeZ!

-abh
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:40:02 WET
From:         Fizzy the Fribble
              <fribble%rachel.ibmpcug.co.uk@KATE.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Three-key Sequence Nonsense
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              Harwell" at Jan 5, 93 10:17 am

From the screen of 'Anne Burton Harwell'...
>
> On Mon, 4 Jan 1993, Fizzy the Fribble wrote:
>
> > Adrian
> >
> > (Another searching question --- why four?)
>
> Yet another: why the e-oops, Mr. Fribble?
>
> -abh
>

Ok - so you all know my first name....

        *starts to count the number of Adrians in England*
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The burning fiery furnace
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>  Robicheaux has rented a "small yellow-brick house" in Missoula, where he
>is staying with the insufferably cute and angelic Alafair. As he gets up
>in the morning, he lights a fire in the fireplace but also "turns on the
>furnace". Later the heat from the "furnace vents" is mentioned. What type
>of furnace would this be? Not, I suppose, a big down-in-the-cellar thing.
>Is it more of a stove?

        Nope, it *is* a down-in-the-cellar one.  Forced hot-air, using
        ductwork.  The place probably also has central air-conditioning.

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From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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Subject: Re: Scoobie Doo (was Re: Gleanings (74)
Date: 12 Jan 93 13:56:26
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In-reply-to: jc-s's message of Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:09:30 EST

Jenna,

   hey //anne//, now that ya have a car, when are ya coming down to providence
   for one of our famous potluck suppahs?

Next time I get an invite and the time is right!  (I need a little extra
time allowance for getting lost)

	//eagle scout//
From: haycock@marley.think.com (Anne Haycock)
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Our Wielder of Cole-Steele requests Words-ler recipes:

I have a couple of things I wouldn't mind sending (an appetizer and dessert
for sure)...would that be okay?

	//anne//
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Date: 9 Jan 93 21:10:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: nah

Without cheating (ie, actually looking), the collective memory of
my household is that the Kingston Trio has it on one of their records.

--bayla
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:05:21 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>
Subject:      Metathesis

I was listening to a local campus radio station (CKLN - a low power
FM station at Ryerson Polytechnic in Toronto) yesterday, and heard
a fellow with a caribbean accent talking about Dizzy Gillespie.  But
he consistently said Gillepsie.

I know the /sk/ -> /ks/ change is common (e.g. ask becomes aks) in
certain black dialects, and presumably /sp/ -> /ps/ would follow,
but I'd never heard it in a name before.

Tony H.
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 08:52:27 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: London Bridge
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> Oh, maybe I shouldn't tell this story; I haven't seen any sad movies w/
> Karsten yet so he doesn't know what I'm like!

But has he heard you laugh yet?  I bet he can extrapolate from there...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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In a previous article, ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM () says:

>> sliding around a bit.  There were pileups all over the place a bit later on.
>
>Nothing happened here.  It's overcast and it rained during the night,
>but it must be in the upper forties already, and it's supposed to go
>to about 55 today.  Is this the False Spring I've heard about?:-)
>
It went up to about 53 here, and it was sunny, no less.  This is after
the temps hovered in the high 20s all day yesterday.  This is New England,
all right.:-)  It's not a fasle Spring really - it's too early for that.
We get false spring in February....


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>Perhaps I should have said "most older speakers of English" then. Did anyone
>on the list over 40 not know what the 'staff of life' was?

        Like MEM, I'm on the downhill side of the big 4-0.  I recognize that
        bread is the staff of life, but what that has to do with the Lord's
        Prayer *still* escapes me.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:57:52 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
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Posted on 6 Jan 1993 at 18:39:20 by Jim Thomas

>Welcome aboard the next best thing to alt.wierd, Gerard.

There's something a little weird about the name of that newsgroup.

Tony H.
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: On Eire and Edinburg(h) (was Re: First major problem in
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        old British chains.  Why do you think you call us yanks?

Because we have trouble pronouncing initial w's?

G
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cronings: (was: News from a newly non-computer...)
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>But, Natalie, you were going to have a mass croning for all eligible words-lers
>during the Salmonbake, remember?

We can still do that.  Those of us already croned can act as presiding
eldresses.

> I agree, Natalie isn't old enough to be a crone, no matter what those books
> say!!

I should be able to get an AARP membership card in time to flash it at the
March croning as proof of age.  But keep the kind words coming...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:45:12 EST
From:         Elaine M Brennan <ELAINE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question About Online Resources
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Rita said:

>Gutenberg, of course, is the best source for online texts.

I'd like to strongly disagree with Rita on this one -- Gutenberg is a
source for common, well known, easily-available-in-print texts that
mimic all of the features of the printed version, including running
headers and page numbers and lots of space at the top and bottom of
"pages".

Neither the selection criteria for texts nor the "formatting" (or lack
thereof) of Gutenberg's texts to my mind add anything to the electronic
value of the texts -- they make them simply a harder-to-read mimic of
the paper form.

It also certainly doesn't have the widest variety of texts online -- I'd
guess that that honor goes to the Oxford Text Archive.

And, in my-not-so-humble-personal-opinion, not adding value to texts
put online or using the networks to make available texts that are
not currently available or accessible elsewhere (as the zines do for
many current writers) is a waste of time and energy.

Elaine
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Subject:      Re: News from Kenya
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              11 Jan 93 12:03:19 -0500. <9301111709.AA18503@sics.se>

  >Have you been following the presidential election in Kenya?
  >Although the results have been disputed, the guy in the lead
  >appears to be a man named Moi. I hope he is declared the
  >winner if for no other reason than he'll be able to say
  >"L'etat c'est Moi!"

  Moi was the incumbent, apparently the old political fox whom the
opposition hoped to dislodge. Although the election had its highly dubious
aspects, neutral observers believe that the outcome reflected the
popular vote. However, if Moi were to follow your suggestion, he would
go down in history as the president who AMONG ALL PRESIDENTS KNOWN TO MAN
SPOKE THE MOST EXECRABLE FRENCH.

  On the other hand, remember "Belle qui tiens ma vie..."?
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:45:17 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Coming to America
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Welcome back to the U.S.A., abh-bwp!  Are you gonna write an official
travelogue entry for ftp, or shall I put the various reports there now?
If you do decide to write an "official" one, I trust that it will be
basically a compilation of the excellent accounts you've already sent.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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In article <199301040511.AA18656@ra.cs.umb.edu>,         Joan Boorstein <jboor@RA.CS.UMB.EDU> writes:
> Natalie,
>     I hope this info is still current.  There is another book like Krol's
> Internet guide: Brendan Kehoe (Widener University) _Zen & Art of the Internet_
> which was first made available on line.  A revised edition has been published
> as a book, I believe. However, I believe the first edition is still online.
> Here is the original announcement (dates from Feb 1992).  I picked up the
> postscript version -- have found it most useful.  I don't recall if an
> ASCII version was ever made available.
> 
> Joan
> 
> ****************************
>>          Zen and the Art of the Internet: A Beginner's Guide
>>
>> I'd like to announce the availability of the first edition of booklet
>> that I hope will find a wide-spread audience.  It's called ``Zen and
>> the Art of the Internet'', and serves as an introductory text to using
>> the Internet in its various incarnations.  In approximately 100 pages,
>> Zen addresses domain names, electronic mail, telnet and ftp, and a
>> variety of other topics.  An extensive glossary and fairly decent
>> bibliography are also included.
>>
>> This booklet explicitly avoids being oriented towards one specific
>> operating system or computing environment.  It's not Unix-heavy, nor
>> does it directly address VMS or any other OS.  Rather, it provides the
>> fundamental concepts and ideas behind using the Internet, and leaves
>> the specific details of command options and usage to the local site.
>>
>> Directors of academic computing services departments for universities
>> and colleges are encouraged to make copies for their user communities;
>> system administrators are welcome to offer it to their users, whether
>> the system be private, commercial, or public; any companies in need of
>> training or other educational literature may use this booklet as an
>> aid; and, most of all, "normal users" [including those in libraryland! -- gw]
>> are invited to use it to help expand their knowledge of the Internet and
>> the possibilities it offers.  The author is keenly interested in hearing
>> from anyone considering large distribution; if you're going to do such a
>> thing, please drop me a line just to satisfy my curiosity.
>>
>> Now, how to get it:  Printed copies are currently unavailable (Widener
>> has no mechanism to deal with this sort of publishing).  However, the
>> guide will be available via anonymous FTP from a number of sites.  As of
>> now, it's stored in three forms: a .tar.Z file (Unix-ites will know what
>> to do with this), a .dvi file (output from the TeX typesetting system),
>> and a .PS (Postscript) file on:
>>
>>         * ftp.cs.widener.edu in pub/zen
>>
>> as:       zen-1.0.tar.Z   }
>>           zen-1.0.dvi     } pick your favorite format
>>           zen-1.0.PS      }
>>
>> Thanks, and I hope you find it useful!  Brendan Kehoe <brendan@cs.widener.edu>


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In a previous article, "Don Moore  974-4078 S/C 574-4078" (813) says:

>out what Crosstalk does to the PF keys (anyone out there *know* how to make
>Crosstalk emulate *all* - not just first 4 - PF key inpulses from standard
>keyboard?  i.e. PF12 is seq ESC ESC W, but how do I tell Crosstalk that?)

Well, you could always hit ESC ESC W, and forget about the PF keys.:-)

>Anyway, normal Spring here, about 80.
Ick.  yecccch.  I'm almost jealous.:)

>Both items are now on my wall, and yes cover does look like Muffy (well
>when he was a few months old) minus two short ears.

Thought it might - all fur and dark eyes.:-)  It kind of reminded me of a
friend's bichon too.  Definitely a lap animal....

>Thank you ever-so-much.  You're a sweetheart.
>
<*blush*> [have to do that virtually; I never could manage it in person]
Thanks.

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