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From: mframpto@axion.bt.co.uk (Mike Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: SGI Programming Libraries
Keywords: design graphic SGI library programming
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:17:46 GMT
Reply-To: mframpto@axion.bt.co.uk (Mike Frampton)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs



Hello

Has anyone heard of the following libraries in connection with graphic programming and 

->SGI Programming Libraries  

can anyone tell me ...   

* whether they are vendor supplied or public domain 

* what are they like in comparison to Unix windows interfaces like,  
  motif and xwindows (functionality and look/feel)  

* what environment are they for ? 

* what languages/compilers etc are they dependant upon.   

cheers in advance  

MJF
From: robert@cse.fau.edu (Robert France)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: Why is the Software Process NOT working
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:17:45 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

In article <1993Jan27.005340.18251@cc.gatech.edu> tomg@cc.gatech.edu (Tom Gale) writes:
>[...]
>Also, I don't put the blame for the software crisis or the problems
>with the software process on universities.  

Thanks for clearing that up! The simple fact is that we do not fully
understand software development processes hence the problems. 


Robert


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CS&E Dept, Florida Atlantic University,       |    Fax: (407) 367-2800   
Boca Raton, FL 33431-0991                     |    email: robert@cse.fau.edu
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From: kambic@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Facts are our Friends.....)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: groupware tools in development projects
Date: 22 Jan 93 11:11:18 EST

In article <1993Jan7.234431.27216@walter.bellcore.com>, lacroix@heron.bellcore.com (Michel Lacroix) writes:
> Is there anyone having some experience with using groupware tools in
> development projects?
> 
> In a former life, I used the Notesfile system, for design discussions
> (although the final decisions were taken in a meeting), keeping
> track of open issues, and displaying the current project plan with the
> status of the different tasks.
> 
> I would be particularly interested in hearing about experiences with
> more recent commercial tools or even experimental ones.

You might check into the GERM tool from MCC in Texas.  

George Kambic
standard disclaimer

Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: bturner@cv.hp.com (Bill Turner)
Subject: Re: Why is the Software Process NOT working
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
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Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:51:36 GMT

Ethan Alpert (ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu) wrote:
> All this talk about the SWE programs failing to teach adequate skills is 
> completely irrelevent. Name one field of study that really prepares the
> student for the "real world." MBA majors don't just "become" captains of
> industry. EE's don't just leave school and develop high end graphics boards.
> Physics majors don't just leave school and discover cold fusion. It is just
> not practical to expect school experience to be even close to the experience
> one gets while on the job. 

Well, yeah, but....

There's a difference between not having the experience (your
MBA/EE/Physics example -- they have the tools, but not the experience on
larger/more complex problems) and lacking the basic tools in the first
place.

Go to any university and ask a representative sample of the CS students
about something like JSD (which has been around for how many years?) and
see how many blank looks you get.  Or ask them about how to write test
cases for their programs.  Or (as mentioned previously) revision control
and source management.

The EE going into the world might not have the experience to develop a
high-end graphics system, but they at least would have an *idea* of how
to tackle the problem.

--Bill Turner (bturner@cv.hp.com)
HP User Interface Technology Division, Corvallis
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: ivory@pluto.crd.ge.com (John Ivory)
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: Project maintainance/build tools for SunOS (long)
Keywords: RCS, CVS, shapeTools
Organization: Tower Concepts, Inc
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:32:55 GMT

> An as yet unnamed tool, available from ivory@tower.com, also for project
> build control (not PD, but inexpensive)

Actually, I'm sorry for any confusion I may have caused.  I simply forgot
to mention the name of the product when I e-mailed my response to Paul.
The name of the tool is Razor, and it's being provided by Tower Concepts.
(Inquiries should be directed to 'razor-info@tower.com')

--------------------------------  R A Z O R  --------------------------- \ \ \
  Tower Concepts, Inc                                     John E. Ivory   \ \
  103 Sylvan Way                     ...                ivory@tower.com    \ \
  New Hartford, NY 13413                                 (315) 724-1471     \
--------------------------  An Issue Tracking System  -----------------------\
                    With Integrated Configuration Management

Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: marcy@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (Marcy Thompson)
Subject: Re: Why is the Software Process NOT working
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Surrey, British Columbia, CANADA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:36:43 GMT


In a recent comp.software-eng article, Lobsang Gyalpo wrote:
>
>I have seen many organizations that are at the Initial Level of the CMM. In
>such organizations I observed that the people in power were the ones that rose
>up in the organization heirarchy and that their knowledge of modern Software
>Development technology was absolute zilch. Such people probably wrote in
>Assembler light years ago and now control the entire Software Development 
>process for their organization. In such cases I believe it is primarily 
>management inaction/ignorance and refusal to get educated that is the 
>cause of the problem. The change has to come from the Top down.

I think there's a lot of truth to this. It reminds me of a group I once worked
with in the US. The manager was a programmer from the old days at IBM; she
had worked there in the early 1960s. We were programming in a 4GL which
was a lot like BASIC in its syntax. The language did have "advanced" flow
control features such as "do while" and "do until", though. We were not
allowed to use them. The manager felt that the use of subroutines was
the right way to program and would reject any code which did not use
subroutines as the only method of controlling flow. 

Want to guess what year I worked for this woman?



1990.

Marcy
-- 

Marcy Thompson		
  SoftQuad (West)			
    marcy@sqwest.wimsey.bc.ca (preferred) or marcy@sq.com
From: southbay@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: U.C. Berkeley Short Courses on Software Engineering
Date: 21 Jan 1993 22:31:00 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

U.C. Berkeley
Continuing Education in Engineering
Announces 4 Short Courses in 
Advanced Software and Computer Engineering


Software Testing (April 19-21, 1993)

This intensive three-day course covers both the current industrial practices and
advanced technologies available to successfully implement and sustain an
improved software testing program.  The advanced software testing technologies
discussed are intended to encourage the planning of future enhancements to
software test programs.

Lecturers: Warren Harrison, Ph.D., Paul W. Oman, Ph.D., Mark Wiley

Software Metrics (April 22-23, 1993)

Measurement is an essential part of improving the software development process.
Measurement facilitates the objective characterization and baselining of an
organizations current software assets, as well as providing a method to
characterize its evolution and improvement.  This course covers both the
theoretical foundations of measurement and software metrics, as well as their
application to improve and characterize the software development process.

Lecturers: Gene Miluk, M.S., Warren Harrison, Ph.D.

Object Oriented Software Engineering (March 1-5, 1993)

This course is designed to provide both technical and managerial personnel with
an understanding of object-oriented concepts and technology, and how its
implementation will impact software development throughout its life cycle.  The
specific problems and solutions for large software systems are discussed.

Lecturer: Ed Berard

Object Oriented Database Systems (April 19-23, 1993)

This course provides a solid grounding in object-oriented database fundamentals,
familiarity with current commercial systems and advanced prototypes, and
exposure to the most important research and development trends in the area.

Lecturers: Stanley Zdonik, Ph.D., David Maier, Ph.D., Michael Carey, Ph.D.,
Gail Mitchell, Ph.D.

For more information (complete course descriptions, outlines, instructor bios,
etc.) contact:

Harvey Stern
U.C. Berkeley Extension/Southbay
800 El Camino Real Ste. 150
Menlo Park, CA 94025
Tel: (415) 323-8141
Fax: (415) 323-1438
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: dmarble@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Duane F Marble)
Subject: Structured Design of Expert Systems??
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:22:03 GMT

It would be appreciated if some kind soul would provide me with a couple
of references on the structured design of expert systems. Our literature
search is not turning up much.
Thanks!
-- 
Duane F. Marble			       E-mail: dmarble@magnus.acs.osu.edu
Department of Geography                Telephone: (614) 292-2250
The Ohio State University
Columbus, Ohio 43210                   Fax: (614) 292-6213
From: mcgregor@netcom.com (Scott L. McGregor)
Subject: Re: FAQ 2: CASE tools summary
Keywords: FAQ
Organization: Prescient Software, Inc.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:34:45 GMT

The CASE FAQ notes  the following on Merge Ahead:

"Merge Ahead" is not a full fledged Version or Configuration mangement tool,
but it addresses one of the most important parts of such systems, support for
management and integration of multiple versions and releases.  While Merge
Ahead does not provide check-in and check-out it is designed to work closely
with other tools that do: integrations for RCS and SCCS are contributed, and
integrations to CASEWare/CM and Atherton Technology Software BackPlane re
supported by those vendors. Integrations to other CM tools (Atria ClearCase,
TeamOne TeamNet, etc.) and even custom and internal tools are easy--even if
files are versioned only by different names or extensions. Merge Ahead is
available from: Prescient Software, Inc.

Prescient Software, Inc.
   Merge Ahead
   3494 Yuba Avenue; San Jose, CA 95117-2967; E-mail: mcgregor@netcom.com
     tel: 408-985-1924; fax: 408-985-1936

The above is our main number.  The FAQ should probably also note that
phone number for sales inquiries is 408-996-1965 (sales fax 408-996-1974).  
It should also note that demo copies of merge ahead are available by
anonymous FTP for Sparc, HP-PA, IBM RS6000 and DecStation
architectures.  To get instructions:

	ftp netcom.com
	login: ftp
	password: youruserid@yourhost
	> get pub/mcgregor/README -

The README file will give you the rest of the instructions you need to
ftp the desired version of the demo. Download, installation and first
demo run can all be completed in 15 minutes.  You can learn EVERYTHING you
want to know about the product from on-line help in another 15
minutes.







-- 
--
Scott L. McGregor		mcgregor@netcom.com
President			tel: 408-985-1824
Prescient Software, Inc.	fax: 408-985-1936
3494 Yuba Avenue
San Jose, CA 95117-2967

Prescient Software sells Merge Ahead, the tool for Merging Text or Code and
offers consulting  & training in project management and design for usability.
From: hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: Delta (Difference) File Generation Algorithm
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:59:49 GMT
Organization: negligable

In article <bkK7_Q5l@twinsun.com> eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert) writes:
>Traditional diff3 has the synopsis
>
>       diff3 [ options ] filename1 filename2 filename3

What's the third file name for?

		-Richard Hartman
		hartman@uLogic.COM

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Extensive studies have shown that 93% of all statistics are meaningless.

Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: kudzu@netcom.com (Michael Sierchio)
Subject: Re: Tools for determining "code coverage"?
Organization: True Love, and Home-Grown Tomatoes
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:18:07 GMT

In article <Jan27.223349.65795@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> rro@cs.ColoState.EDU writes:
>
>In article <WYNN.93Jan27145307@haduk.cms-stl.com>, wynn@cms-stl.com (Tim Wynn) writes:
>|> 
>|> We are developing software on HP and SGI workstations in C under X 
>|> and UNIX. As part of our software testing effort, we are required to 
>|> show the total number of lines of source code covered by the final 
>|> acceptance test.   This does not mean we are looking for a 
>|> tool to count source lines; we are lloking for a tool which will
>|> tell us the number of source line which were executed during a
>|> particular run.  We would appreciate any information about automated 
>|> tools to accomplish this.
>
>HP's SoftBench product has had a testing coverage tool for C and C++
>programs as part of its repertoire for years, unless I got a demo of 
>something that never became a product.  Seemed really spiffy to me--
>check it out!

Brian Marick, marick@cs.uiuc.edu, uiucdcs!marick, marick@testing.com (pending)
Testing Foundations:  Consulting, Training, Tools.
Freeware test coverage tool:  see cs.uiuc.edu:pub/testing/GCT.README

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|  kudzu@netcom.com                                Berkeley, CA 94707-2116 |
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Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: tomg@cc.gatech.edu (Tom Gale)
Subject: Re: Why is the Software Process NOT working
Reply-To: tomg@cc.gatech.edu (Tom Gale)
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:53:40 GMT

I may have been slightly misunderstood (my own fault).  I never said
that universities *cannot* teach students good SWE techniques or teach
them about process/quality issues.  I just disagree with what was
implied by the original poster's statement to the effect that
engineers "forget everything they learned at the university".  There
are certainly examples of good SWE curriculums and in some cases even
degrees awarded in software engineering (soon to be the case here at
Georgia Tech).

What I was trying to get across was that it seems like universities
don't feel that teaching students how to produce high quality code is
a *requirement* (i.e. sufficient SWE training is not required for
graduation).  Student's who elect to take SWE coures may receive good
training, but if the schools don't require this training, the majority
of students will not seek it out on their own, thus the majority of
students who enter industry will not have this background.

Also, I don't put the blame for the software crisis or the problems
with the software process on universities.  I just think that they
might be able to contribute a bit more to the solution to these
problems by recognizing the importance of formal SWE education and not
just traditional CS education.

T.G.

					
					-Tom Gale (tomg@cc.gatech.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: vandeweg@cs.utwente.nl (Rob Vandeweg)
Subject: Call for papers 4th European workshop on the Next Generation of CASE Tools (NGCT-93)
Reply-To: ngct@cs.utwente.nl
Organization: University of Twente, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:03:44 GMT
From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Re: Why is the Software Process NOT working
Date: 29 Jan 1993 02:55:25 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

In article <1993Jan28.195713.5784@sdc.com>, Ken Konecki (kenk@sdc.com) wrote:
: In article <C1HFyp.3Kr@MathWorks.COM> mounil@mathworks.com (Mounil Patel) writes:
: >In today's market place, I don't  think we've
: >found a single undergrad (and few grads) that have had the training in
: >their degree program to prepare them for "real world" software
: >engineering tasks. It is a fraud to hand these kids a diploma and tell
: >them they're ready to work when they haven't been taught anything nedded
: >to work on today's applications.

: I strongly disagree.  Colleges and Universities are not trade
: schools and should not be treated as such.  One attends a
: college or university to receive an education, not job
: training.  My education has served me well in the real world
: because it provided the tools I needed to be successful not just
: in my job, but in my life in general.  With a good education one
: learns good problem solving techniques that can be applied to
: any situation including that of "real world" software.

I TOTALLY agree.  Our college has made it QUITE clear.  College is there
to educate you, and it would be foolish to think that once you graduate,
you're ready for the workplace.  They're very clear.  College is only the
beginning--a degree lets companies know that you have the knowledge base
they need to train you, and after college comes MORE books, MORE
information...  From first semester freshman year.  It's ALWAYS been
clear.  These "kids", as you call me and others my age, generally know
full-well what this encompasses.  A CS degree means you have the minimum
knolege base needed so that training can begin, in my eyes.

Greg

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Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: silva@calypso.cs.wayne.edu (Joao Silva)
Subject: 2nd  Workshop on PROGRAM COMPREHENSION
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit, MI
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:09:41 GMT


                         CALL FOR PAPERS

                        2nd  Workshop on

                     PROGRAM COMPREHENSION

                        July 8 - 9, 1993

            Europa Palace Hotel, Capri, Naples, Italy

Most "real life" software engineering deals with existing 
software. Maintenance, reuse, and re-engineering are 
some of the most expensive processes. A significant part of 
their cost is due to software comprehension.
  
This workshop will explore the theoretical, 
methodological, technical, and technological issues of 
program comprehension. It will gather researchers from 
government, academia, and industry.

Papers related, but not limited, to the following topics are 
invited:

- Theories and models for software comprehension
- Experiments related to software comprehension
- Tools facilitating software comprehension
- Reverse engineering to support reuse,  comprehension,            
	    and maintenance
- Innovative technologies for reverse engineering
- Case studies in reverse engineering 
- User interfaces, program visualization and animation.
     
General Co-Chairs:

Bruno Fadini
Project SICP-CNR 
Viale del Policlinico, 137 - 00161 Roma

Vaclav Rajlich
Department of Computer Science
Wayne State University
Detroit, MI 48202
e-mail: rajlich@cs.wayne.edu

Sponsored by:


	The Institute of Electrical and Electronics
	Engineers, Inc.


	IEEE Computer Society

Program Co-Chairs:

Aniello Cimitile
DIS - Dep. of Informatica e Sistemistica
University of Naples
via Claudio 21, 80125 Naples, Italy
(Please use express mail)
Tel. ++39-81-768-3199
Fax ++39-81-768-3186
e-mail: cimitile@inacised.unina.it

Norman Wilde
Department of Computer Science
University of West Florida
Pensacola, FL 32514
Tel. 904-474-2548
Fax 904-474-3023
e-mail: wilde@cs.uwf.edu

Information for authors:

Papers due March 1, 1993
Acceptance notification April 10, 1993
Camera ready copy due May 10, 1993

Submit three (3) copies to the program co-chairs.
Papers should be original work of approximately 
6000 words.  They should not have been previously 
published nor have been submitted to, or be in 
consideration for, any journal, book, or conference. 
Authors are expected to present the accepted paper 
to the workshop.

In Cooperation with:

Project SICP-CNR, Italian National Research 	
Council

ALENIA, Naples

CRIAI - Consorzio Campano per la Ricerca in 	
Informatica ed  Automazione Indistriale

Informatica, Srl., Bari


Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: brad@delfin.com (Brad Heckman
Subject: Highest Capability Metrics Tools?
Organization: Delfin Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:19:31 GMT

By "highest capability" I mean
 
1) Largest number of calculated metrics
2) Suite of integrated graphically based tools
3) Integrated with other vendor's CASE products
4) High reliability
5) Service oriented over the long term.
 
Note that price is NOT a factor in this definition.
 
My investigation so far indicates that McCabe & Associates is the
clear winner.
 
I am interested in your experience of actually purchasing commercial
metrics tools if you considered both McCabe and other vendors.
 
Thanks.
From: A.J.C.Blyth@newcastle.ac.uk (Andrew Blyth)
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
Subject: Flex
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:44:47 GMT
Followup-To: comp.software-eng
Organization: The University of Newcastle Upon Tyne

Dear All,

I am looking for references on Flex - Could people please reply by mail.

Many Thanks

Andrew.

________________________________________________________________________
                             Andrew Blyth
                           Research Associate
Department of Computing Science       Tel +44 91 222 6053
The University                        Fax +44 91 222 8232
Newcastle Upon Tyne. NE1 7RU.           
England.                              Email A.J.C.Blyth@newcastle.ac.uk
________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: john@iastate.edu (John Hascall)
Subject: Re: Tools for determining "code coverage"?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:08:56 GMT

wynn@cms-stl.com (Tim Wynn) writes:
}We are developing software on HP and SGI workstations in C under X 
}and UNIX. As part of our software testing effort, we are required to 
}show the total number of lines of source code covered by the final 
}acceptance test.   This does not mean we are looking for a 
}tool to count source lines; we are lloking for a tool which will
}tell us the number of source line which were executed during a
}particular run.  We would appreciate any information about automated 
}tools to accomplish this.

DEC machines have pixie & prof (MIPS too?) -- since SGI is MIPS based
it might also (in any event, I guess you could test on a DECstation).

John
-- 
John Hascall                   ``An ill-chosen word is the fool's messenger.''
Systems Software Engineer
Project Vincent
Iowa State University Computation Center  +  Ames, IA  50011  +  515/294-9551
Newsgroups: comp.software-eng
From: "Lih Yen Hsieh" <wk01673@worldlink.com>
Subject: Re: Doc Gen Tool
Organization: [ Myself ]
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:00:07 GMT
X-Mailer: WORLDLink (3.11)

To the Poster Who Asked about AUTOMATIC DOCUMENT GENERATING
Tool a Few Days Ago :

Sorry I didn't keep the particular post so I could not reply
directly.

Anyway, here's some information on one particular product.
	
	====================================================
	DocGen-C : Automatic Mil/DoD-Std Document Generator.
	Contact: Dr. Thomas S. Radi
	Software Systems Design, Inc.
	3627 Padua Ave., Claremont, CA 91711
	Phone:  (714) 625-6147
	Fax:    (714) 626-9667
	====================================================

My understanding is that DocGen-C is one product of a family of
C-specific design tools that SSDI sells.

The above information is about two (2) years old.

[Disclaimer: I have no affiliation with SSDI whatsoever. LYH]

Newsgroups: comp.software-eng