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From: hammerl@acsu.buffalo.edu (Valerie S. Hammerl)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: JETS News: Lalor out, trade rumours?
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:38:33 GMT
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Organization: UB

In article <1992Nov19.141857.1874@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> leunggm@odin.control.utoronto.ca (Gary Leung) writes:

>Oh The Sports Network last night, Bob McKenzie stated that Bob
>Essensa may also be on the trading block pending the outcome of
>his arbitration hearing. Word is that if he wins the
>arbitration, the Jets will want to trade him instead of paying
>him a high salary. Buffalo was mentioned as being interested.
>Can anyone in the Buffalo or Winnipeg area shed some light on
>this?


Essensa might have to queue up behind Fuhr and Vernon (The mind is
surely going; I belive Vernon is the Calgary goaltender I'm thinking
of, correct me if I'm wrong).  Basically, if it's a goaltender with
experience and a good record, Buffalo is rumored to be interested.  It
takes a few weeks for the Buffalo News to catch up with the rumors
here. Right now the goaltending situation in Buffalo is as follows:

Puppa is still prone to streaks and skids.  One night he'll put in a
stellar performance, the next he's yanked.  Right now he has the flu.

Hasek must drive goaltending coach Mitch Korn nuts.  If your typical
goaltender is odd and hard to read, then Hasek is an enigma with a
style all his own.  He has a habit of catching with his stick glove,
dropping his stick to the ground.  He's overcoming it.  He's hard to
read.  I still think he'd improve with continued play, reflex
goaltenders do not do well as bench warmers, in terms of style of
play.  

Tom Draper's only two starts were on a western road trip that wasn't
televised.  The only time I've seen him play this season is practice.
I think he'd make a good backup on any team, but last year showed he 
isn't number one material.

There's rumor that at an upcoming NHL meeting this weekend, Meehan may
decide to wheel and deal, as the Sabres have won but one road game
this season, and that was their first road game.



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From: paien00@DMI.USherb.CA (Nick)
Subject: Re: 1st draft pick of 1993?
Organization: Ascot Boyz - ANS Reader - BB #1
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:49:22 GMT

leunggm@odin.control.utoronto.ca (Gary Leung) a ecrit:
>
>I think that only Eric Lindros and the Lindros family know
>precisely the reasons why he didn't want to play in Quebec City.
>I'm sure that money was a big part of he. He also cited that he
>felt Quebec Management was not dedicated enough for winning. In
>addition, he has publicly stated his dislike of Quebec GM Marcel
>Aubut. I think all of these factors, plus maybe a few I haven't
>mentioned, led to his decision.

Guess why now it's Aubut's fault??? Because his image of fan bashing
is kind of stupid and someone told Bonnie that it would be better for
him to change his attitude...

Why are the Nords winning this year??? Because they've traded
Lindros??? Gimme a Break!



-- 
						Nick
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     pas debout... qu'elle ne peut courir !    
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From: scottb@col.hp.com (Scott Brunton)
Subject: Wanted: Tickets to All-Star Game
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:06:26 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

	Are there any suggestions as to how to obtain a pair for the
All-Star game in Montreal this coming February?  I'd also like to go
to the skills competition (usually the day before).

	I also heard that season ticket holders are only being given
half of the allotment for this game.

	Finally, I'd like to know the seating arrangement in the Forum.
In Toronto, the order is golds, reds, blues (over the endzones), greens,
and greys.

Thanks, Scott Brunton (scottb@col.hp.com)
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From: kdc@ccu.umanitoba.ca ()
Subject: JETS continue their domination of the RED WINGS
Originator: kdc@asimov.cc.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:45:35 GMT


 The WINNIPEG JETS have won the season series against the RED WINGS
(2 games - 1) again.  Last year they won all 3 games.
Last night's victory in Detroit came in spite of having the video replay
judge blow a call and wave off an apparent JET goal.
  The JETS were never behind in this one.  Housley had a good game (3 pts)
Final score was 5 - 3  
                
 The recent tour thru 4 Norris Div. cities has helped the Jets improve their
dismal road record from 0 wins & 8 losses to 3 and 9.
 
 Ken D.   U of Manitoba

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From: harrison@mpr.ca (Jeff Harrison)
Subject: Re: 1st draft pick of 1993?
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:24:05 GMT

In article <Bxz6CD.6A9@DMI.USherb.CA> paien00@DMI.USherb.CA (Nick) writes:
>8800740@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARCO RUEST) a ecrit:
>>	I've heard on the news that if Ottawa draft Alexandre Daigle, that 
>>there is going to be an other Lindros Case.  He will refuse to play for 
>>Ottawa.  Is it just a supposition?  I don't know.
>
>But that's going to be interresting... How the English media will
>react to this??? I mean that they were 110% behind Lindros when he
>didn't want to play in Quebec... Let's see if it's going to be the
>same thing... I guess not...
>						Nick

Exsqueeze me? Baking Powder?

Have you read any english media west of Ontario in the past year?
Lindros was royally roasted on radio programs and in the local papers. 
A lot of people felt that he was a spoiled brat who needed a spanking.
He was damned lucky to be drafted, and he should damn well play where he's
told to play. 
If Daigle pulls the same stunt, he'll be roasted as much as `ol Eric.


Jeff
- who hates it when people make blanket statements.
- but the above doesn't preclude me from wishes Lindros was wearing the 
  Black, White, and Gold.
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From: plarsen@sanjuan (P Allen Larsen)
Subject: Re: Why it's great in Vancouver (was Why ESPN's Hockey Ratings Are Low)
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 02:35:34 GMT

> 4) radio coverage and local televised games are done by the great
>    Hall of Fame inductee Jim Robinson
                               ^^^^^^^^
That should be Hall of Famer Jim Robson. (and his geeky sidekick Tom!)

> 5) Pavel Bure plays for the Canucks
Go Bure Go!!!
>
>Just my thoughts,
>Tony
> 
>PS Last April/May when I was on vacation the only hockey playoff
>coverage was on CNN - 5 mins worth, right at the end. I couldn't wait to
>leave Cancun :-)

Tell ya what, I'll go to Cancun and you can keep me updated on the Canucks via
email!!!

Al.



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From: bart@splunge.uucp (Barton Oleksy)
Subject: Re: Joe Sakic
Keywords: Scoring drought
Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:41:53 GMT

patrick@psych.toronto.edu (Patrick Keelan) writes:

>What's up with Joe Sakic?  Is he injured?  He was on a torrid
>scoring pace for a while, but in the last two games he hasn't
>notched a point.  These were games in which several Nordique
>goals were scored.  I haven't seen his name listed in any
>injury reports.  I'm getting concerned because I have him
>in a pool, and he's one of my key players.  If anyone has
>any information regarding his status, I'd appreciate you posting
>it or e-mailing me. Thanks.
>-Pat K.
> U. of Toronto

Don't think he's injured...just on a two-game "slump".  Checking the latest
weekly stats in the newspaper, he's played in all of Quebec's 18 games, and
is the leading scorer on the Nordiques with 30 points, one ahead of Sundin.
I wouldn't get too worried...there are bound to be times in an 84-game
schedule that a good player like Sakic is scoreless for two in a row!

Bart, Edmonton AB
bart@splunge.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Quote of the season!
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:30:20 GMT

This has got to be a candidate for quote of the season especially since it
is an expansion year:

When asked about the problems with the power play of the Lightning, Peter
Taglianetti replied: "If we were great play makers, we would still be on the
rosters of our old teams."

Tom
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From: gen5061@husky1.stmarys.ca
Subject: Re: LEAFS NEWS: Wamsley, Fuhr on their way down
Organization: St. Mary's University, Halifax, N.S., Canada
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 22:32:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.085822.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca>, slegge@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
> Leafs' goalie Rick Wamsley is officially on his way to St.John's for a 
> three-game rehabilitation.
>  
  I heard that during Wamsley's three game rehabilitation he re-injured his
knee and will be gone for a while.  Can anyone confirm this?
> Stephen Legge
>  
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> SLEGGE@kean.ucs.mun.ca
> 
  By the way I like your leaf symbol Stephen.
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From: urjm5@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Richard Macturk)
Subject: Re: Domi vs. Brown
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:54:00 GMT

In article <By0w5w.LBn.1@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
>Ok, Flyers and Rangers fans, give us the story...
>
>Last night on the news they showed a clip of the Rangers/Flyers game.  In it
>Tie Domi squared off against Dave Brown.  From the clip, it looked like Brown
>beat the pants off Domi.  Well, at least beat the helmet off...
>
>Did the self proclaimed "heavyweight champ of the NHL" go down to defeat
>last night?
>
>Lori
>
>
I give Tie a lot of credit for trying, but Brown beat the hell
out of him.  Tie had better save his strength for Wed. Nov.
2nd when he meets Mr. Probert. 8-(.

That smiley face is Tie with two black eyes.




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Subject: Flames News will continue! Also an update.
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 18 Nov 92 16:38:25 MST
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

I have received over 30 messages now in response to my query as to how many
people actually read my Flames posts, so fear not, they will continue. :-)

I never knew there were that many Flames fans out there....

A couple notes here:

I didn't mention in my post yesterday that C.J. Young has rejoined the Flames
after working for a few months as a paralegal and pondering his future. He
played for Team USA at the Olympics, but balked at being assigned to Salt Lake
City after the Games. He is with the Flames, and should either make his NHL
debut later this week or be assigned to Salt Lake for conditioning.

Also, Al MacInnis returned to Calgary on Monday after being released from 
hospital in Hartford. He walks with the aid of a single cane-like crutch. He
can put full weight on the injured left leg while standing, but it has limited
motion, so a cane is required to walk. He is out for 6 to 8 weeks while the
soft tissue around the hip recovers. There is some fear that this injury could
result in avascular necrosis, the condition that ended the career of Bo
Jackson, but the Flames were downplaying those concerns. MacInnis gave 
interviews following a workout with some weights at the Saddledome, and said
that he was too scared to look at his leg after the accident occured. He 
didn't look at it until the doctors were cutting his equipment off at the
hospital, and then he saw that it was badly twisted. He said he thought his
career was over. MacInnis also said that he doesn't wish ill on Patrick
Poulin, the Whaler that caused the accident, but says that something has to
be done to cut down on the hitting from behind.

On a humorous note, MacInnis said that while he was lying on the ice, John 
Cullen of the Whalers came over and said "You'll be okay". MacInnis said
yesterday "What the hell was he thinking when he said that?" :-)

								Alan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:44:20 -0500 
From: Paul Andrew Platosh <pp21+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: What's wrong with Robbie?

Rob Brown, throughout his career has long been know as the King Of
Suckerhangers.  Yeah, he can score every now and then, but mostly that's
because he's suckerhanging.  In Hartford, while the other players were
working hard and sweating, Rob had his ass parked in front of the crease
in "Robbie's Place" as the players eventually came to call it, without
much humor, I may add.

He has a temper, and doesn't get along with many people, but that's
Robbie Brown, and Chicago knew what they were getting...But that's
another story. 

Paul Platosh
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Sharks Score Update: claudius@leland.stanford.edu
Originator: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:22:53 GMT

As an experiment, I had put scoring updates in my .plan at claudius@
leland.stanford.edu.  This is usually up-to-period, but sometimes I can
do it up-to-minute.  Please send me a message if you find this helpful, so
I can know if I should continue this.

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: staceyc@sco.COM (Stacey Campbell)
Subject: Re: Sharks defeat Kings 6-0
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:00:22 GMT


[Thanks for posting these game reports Nelson, they're great.]

In article <1992Nov18.073654.26575@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>The Sharks came out hitting quickly in the first period,

When the Cow Palace announcer read the penalty info for fighting
at 2 seconds about half the crowd cheered and the other half laughed.

>After Irbe stopped Tony Granato on a good opportunity, Pat Falloon and Wilson
>went on a 2-on-1, and Wilson, after Hrudey committed to him, returned a pass
>back to Falloon, who had little problem scoring into the open net.

This was a textbook 2-on-1, Falloon and Wilson avoided letting the
defenseman take the pass away (which ain't easy in that tiny rink),
they waited until Hrudey had committed, then a clean pass onto Faloon's
stick guaranteed a goal.  Geat stuff to watch (I wouldn't mind doing it
once in a while too ;-}.

>Going on a 3-on-2, Dave Snuggerud, after he entered the
>zone, shot the puck hard off the endboards, and it bounced back to Johan
>Garpenlov, whose centering attempt bounced off Hrudey's skates into the net.

This might be taking a bit away from Garpenlov.  The way it appeared to
me was that Snuggerud shot the puck in, Hrudey went behind the net to
successfully stop the puck, an LA defenseman arrived back there at the
same time as Garpenlov, in the confusion Garpenlov stole the puck, took
a giant step to get his stick with the puck near front of the net for a
wrap around.  Hrudey had got back to the front of the net on the other
side and must have missed stopping the shot by about an inch.

I'd say one of the most memorable parts of the game was when LA had a 5
against 3 man advantage for over a minute, Irbe made at least 5 saves in
that minute, and the crowd was on their feet cheering for about the last
30 seconds.

>2.	Irbe was on top of his game.  He was playing the style that he liked,
>	coming out of the net to check pucks off players, wrapping the puck
>	around, etc.

I noticed in the last 5 minutes Irbe was not the least bit interested in
having the puck in the Shark's zone.  Every time he came way out of the
net to get the puck he would look for a winger near the center line before
a defenseman in the faceoff circles.

>	He was not intimidated and was playing with great confidence.

Though he looked kind 'o bashful when he got his stars at the end of
the game...

BTW: the three times my wife has seen the Sharks (two Edmonton games and
this one), they haven't lost, anyone done better?
-- 
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From: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Subject: Re: Team FINLAND - Team LATVIA, November 14, 1992
Reply-To: raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 21:17:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.224310.1845@tac.fi> tiok_jk@tac.fi (Juha Koivisto) writes:
> Finland, Tampere, November 14, 1992:
> 
> TEAM FINLAND
> 
>    2  D  Haapakoski Mikko  TPS Turku

    How is Mikko playing ?  Does he get ice time ?
    He was drafted by the NHL Detroit Red Wings in 1987, will
    we ever see him here in the USA ??

Thanks

> 
> Juha Koivisto   *  Department of Information Technology
> tiok_jk@tac.fi  *  City of Tampere, Finland

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From: dolittle@halmuc.muc.sub.org (Ludwig Hurt)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:37:09 +0200
Organization: HAL (ECG089)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Distribution: world
Subject: NHL in european TV
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.8m

Hi there,

does anyone know if Eurosport or Screensport will broadcast games of
the NHL in Europe (I can't wait any longer)? 
And if so, when will they start.

Thanks in advance

Ludwig

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From: steve@cs.hw.ac.uk (Steven Salvini)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: European Cup
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:18:34 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <1992Nov17.151431.8643@nntp.hut.fi> f33012l@puukko.hut.fi (Janne Kivel{) writes:
>European Cup semi-finals were played last weekend.
>
>The following teams qualified for the finals:
>
> Mediolanum Milan (Italy)


Is this the same team as Milano Devils of last season?    Or HC Milano?   Or what?

Help!!!

Steven.

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From: bm562@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard L. Trionfo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Lindros update
Date: 24 Nov 1992 00:58:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


   For those of you Flyers fans who had their hearts skip a
beat Sunday night, don't cry, Eric Lindros is only out one to 
two weeks with a sprained knee.  No tear was found and Lindros
was not too angry about it.  He said that it wasn't anything
and half the team probably had similar injuries.  I want to 
be able to see him on the 12th to see the next superstar in
person.
           Rich
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From: hunt7551@mach1.wlu.ca (len hunt 9208 U)
Subject: Re: Ottawa's 1st Pick
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:08:48 GMT


In article <1992Nov16.210043.8567@bcars6a8.bnr.ca>, coop4y44bnr.ca (Robb
Keayes) suggests:

Ottawa should trade there number one pick for Kerry Huffman and Owen Nolan.
With two strong players available in the upcoming draft, I would think that
Ottawa would definetly be looking for more.  A trade involving Peter
Foresberg, Todd Warriner, and the first round pick from Philadelphia plus
cash would be more acceptable.  However, if either Alexander Daigle or
Kozlov??(who is playing in Russia) live up to their billing as a superstar,
Ottawa can not afford to trade this pick.

     As well, Robb states that a trade by Ottawa could possibly avoid a
situation like the Lindros one.  He feels that Lindros is expected to be the
next Greztky or Lemieux, and Lindros has not lived up to this billing yet.
However, Lindros' style of play is not at all like these two, and it is
unfair to suggest he will put up the same numbers.  Furthermore, Lemieux's
rookie season, while certainly good, was not in a league with
Gretzky's.  Eric Lindros is on a great scoring pace for the season, and I
don't understand why everyone is so critical of his play.  Maybe he has a
lot of enemies who only try to bring him down.  There are many who believe
that Teemu Selanne should be favoured to win rookie of the year over
Lindros.  However, they only judge a player naively on the basis of points
and not on other important attributes.  Think about it.  Would you think that
any player would be intimidated about going into a corner with Teemu?  How
about with Lindros?  Obviously, many people do not consider the physical
aspects of the game to be important in the Calder selection.  The true
hockey fans know that a good hit by one of your teamates can certainly
change the momentum of a game.


Len Hunt..............................hunt7551@mach1.wlu.ca
From: kim@guppy.uucp (Isaac Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Irbe gets Sharks first ever shutout
Date: 18 Nov 1992 06:38:13 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: guppy.ucsd.edu

I never got to see the game (just heard it on the radio),
but Artur Irbe got the Sharks first ever shutout tonight
against the LA Kings 6-0.  Quite a turnaround from the 11-4
beating he took from the Kings last week.  It sounded like
the Sharks completely outplayed the Kings (although you are
never sure with Nick Nixon doing the play-by-play.  A
typical Nixon call would be Kurri (long pause) Sandstrom
(long pause) SCORES!!!  You never know where the puck was
during the last 5 seconds).

Anyways, congratulations to Irbe and thanks for keeping the
Kings out of sole possession of first in the Smythe.  Looks
like Kingston might have know what he was doing keeping Irbe
in the game during the last shelling.

Isaac (kim@bull.ucsd.edu)