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From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: New Apple PC
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 07:20:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.040047.5769@cco.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:

[ ]
>
>I'd expect it to be what the rumors indicated: a stripped down sub-mac intended
>to compete with Commodore's CDTV, and doomed to fail at least as miserably as
>the CDTV has...

Hmm...CDTV (which I have, so I'm biased a bit) and CD-I were introduced in
the middle of a recession. They were very new products, and very interesting
ones I might add. I can sit and play with the CDTV and switch over to a 
movie and switch back and dial up work! Now, quite a few units were 
actually sold. Lot's of titles are available and many are about to come
out (a second generation with more colours, motion, etc...). There were few
peripherals when it was introduced, but it can easily be turned into an 
Amiga with a floppy, keyboard, remote trackball/mouse/joysticks (these have
been available for some time) and now an internal hard drive as well as a
specially designed DCTV board for more colours, etc...The price is coming down
fast. CDTV has, in my opinion, a bright future. The software is very reasonably
priced and isn't driving me into a 5th mortgage like my SNES and Genesis
units are. I wouldn't count it out yet.
 
The sad thing about this is that the SNES with it CD-I CD addon (slated for
January at around $200) is nothing compared to what should have evolved out
of the GS. I find it amusing that the SNES with its 65816 (and coprocessors)
makes the Genesis console look somewhat poor in comparison. And Apple threw
it all away. A simple title like Street Fighter II has sold millions. If
anything is a shame it's that Apple never followed up on the promise that 
the GS will never be (under Apple).
 
At this point, Apple seems to have done poorly in the education world, is
really under attack by OS/2 and Windows() and is not taken seriously in the
workstation world. Odd indeed.
 
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,ba.market.computers,misc.forsale.computers,su.market,dc.forsale,fl.forsale,ca.wanted
From: sheckler@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steven Heckler)
Subject: Awesome Apple //c System!
Followup-To: sheckler@leland.stanford.edu
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 04:25:19 GMT

Awesome Apple //c set-up for sale!  Includes:

Apple //c:  5 years old, but kept under covers.  Keyboard still has that new
     "crisp" feel, and the body is in immaculate shape (it's the first real
     computer I ever owned, and I've treated it like a spoiled child).
     128K RAM, internal 5.25" drive

Apple //c Color Composite Monitor w/ Apple stand:  Both also in perfect
     shape.  The monitor displays beautiful color.

Apple External 5.25" drive:  Platinum, blends nicely with the //c, literally
     in perfect shape

Tac 1+ Joystick:  Works with Apple // or some PC models.  Not in as great
     shape, but still very usable.  One button on stick, 2 at base.

Software:  AppleWorks 3.0, Publish It! 2, Copy II Plus 9.0, Rampage!, Archon,
     Ultima V, Spy vs. Spy III, tons of awesome shareware

     I have all original manuals in mint condition.

     I have honestly seen no other Apple //c set up in as close to mint-quality
condition as mine.  This would make a great first computer for a younger boy or
girl, a nice tool for basic word processing or entertainment, or an outstanding
addition to a classroom.  I'd be delighted to furnish tips for additional
software.

     First person to offer me $460 plus shipping gets it.  I would love to
donate it to a good cause, but the costs of my education combined with the
effects of the recession on my family's finances make this impossible.     

     I can be reached by calling (202) 667-9814 until September 5 or (813)
482-0742 thereafter.  E-mail is a very safe bet, though--write to:
sheckler@leland.stanford.edu.  Persons who can pick up the system in Fort
Myers, Florida, will be given special consideration (though I know this is 
extremely unlikely).

     Thanks!

                               Steve
From: ncp@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Neal Pitts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: gs.os.FST?
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:16:56 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Sun Aug 23 92 at 23:10:49 (EST)

>>      Uhhh..  WHERE would you fit all of this new stuff? ProDOS 8 and 
BASIC.SYSTEM barely fit now.. it would seem logical that the code to do this
new stuff would be bigger than the code to do the current stuff... so how do
you fit it? <<

I'll assume your talking about the "ProDOS II" I mentioned for the 8-bit
machines.  To be clear, I imagined ProDOS II to be a extended ProDOS with new
capabilities while keeping compatability with old ProDOS.  Where it would fit
is beyond me. :)  I'll give that some thought, but I would think it would be
housed on a seperate disk, like GS/OS boot disks are now.

If your talking about the "GS/OS FST" then I'd have to say that the HFS FST
barely fits as it is right now, so a bigger file should be of no surprise to
anyone I think (if it's 40k, then it's no big deal as HFS is like 36k).

>>      Plus, how do you insure existing programs run off of it?  The main
discussion has been about an FST for the GS since programs that will run off
of a generic ProDOS volume will run off of HFS or whatever else.. Obviously,
that's an "as a whole" statement, and there are exceptions. (they broke a 
rule) <<

I don't know about this becaI don't know what it is about current stuff that
doesn't work on HFS as it is now. :)

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                             ncp@gnh-starport
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From: tomk@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Tom Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Price for an Apple ][+
Date: 2 Sep 92 06:32:58 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-nsdapple] - North San Diego Apple Users Group

In <1992Aug28.120738.29429@mlb.semi.harris.com>
eam@gato.mis.semi.harris.com (Technology Centre) writes:

>If I can buy an Apple ][+ with mono monitor, serial interface, memory exp.,
>2 floppy drives (5.25), and a joystick, how much would be a fair price?
>
>Thanx,
>Ed

The price should be $150-200 range.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca (Jerry Penner)
Subject: Re: 8-bit FORTH available on GEnie
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 23:29:56 GMT

lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:

>Are GraForth and Applewriter ProDOS based?

GraForth is DOS 3.3 based.  Applewriter 2.1 is ProDOS based.  Only
Applewriter 2.1 is freely distributable.

>Is the source code available?

For Applewriter 2.1, it is definitely not available.  I don't know
about GraForth.

>If they are not ProDOS, anyone considering making them ProDOS?

>When they are prodos, anyone considering adding GS graphics and
>sound to GraForth?

Why?  There are already (at least) two Forths for the GS which have
full support for the GS toolbox which includes Quickdraw and the sound
and note synth tools; RavenForth and GS16Forth.
-- 
Jerry Penner   jpenne@ee.ualberta.ca   Try a 1-line .sig today.
From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Blue Helmet & TimeLord
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:23:59 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <Btwn9z.HJx@well.sf.ca.us> joko@well.sf.ca.us (Joe Kohn) writes:
}In the version that I uploaded to GEnie, CIS and c.b.a2, there's one small
}patch I applied that should allow steering to the left on ROM3's. Since I
}don't have a ROM3, I couldn;t personally test it out.
}
}Maybe someone who downloads Blue Helmet from c.b.a2 with a ROM3 could let me
}know if they can steer to the right. Thanks...
}
}(Whoops. I meant steer to the left)

	Well, I can't steer to the right, and I've got a ROM 1. Apparently
from what you've said, this is expected.
-- 
/unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu   used ADB trackball WANTED          Apple II Forever!\
\Mail me:Get INFOCOM GAMES RERELEASED for //s, ULT VI GS done,for UNIX GS info/
What the world needs now is another folk singer like I need a hole in my head.
From: mock@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Kenrick Mock)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: IIgs telecom programs...
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:08:59 GMT
Organization: U.C. Davis - Department of Electrical Engineering

Ah, I also almost forgot, there is GNO's "telcom" program as well.
Doesn't use the desktop as you've indicated that you want, but it runs
under GNO so you can suspend your telcom session and go do other
things and return...quite the useful ware, and it supports vt100.


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From: shahin@eastrg1.cray.com (Shahin Khan.)
Subject: Re: status of Supercomputing Review?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 4 Sep 92 08:09:05 CDT


You might look at one or all of the following:

1) 	Parallelogram.  
	32 Fitzroy Square, London W1P 5HH, UK 
	Tel +44-71-387-4296
	Fax +44-71-388-5975

2) 	Supercomputer, European Watch.
	ASFRA BV, Voorhaven 33, NL-1135 BL Edam, The Netherlands 
	Tel: +31-2993-72751
	Fax: +31-2993-72877

3)	Supercomputer
	Same publisher as in item 2 above.

4)	Journal of Supercomputing Applications
	I think this is IEEE or SIAM.  More academic than the ones above.

5)	Parallel Computing
	I think this is Springer-Verlag.  Also quite academic.

There are others, of course.  

Speaking for me,
Shahin.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: parallel@netcom.com (B. Mitchell Loebel)
Subject: The PARALLEL Processing Connection
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 92 22:24:13 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa


September 14, 1992 - Meeting notice 


MasPar - Supercomputing With a SIMD Architecture

The high performance computing world is becoming increasingly focused 
on MIMD based machines;  MasPar believes that the "MIMD hysteria" has 
clouded the real problem, delivering application performance. Their VP of 
Technology and Architecture, Tom Blank, will discuss the applications 
which best utilize the MasPar autonomous SIMD architecture. Tom is 
uniquely qualified to do this; it is our understanding that he was the prime 
developer of the architecture. Too, this will be the first public presentation 
of their new I/O system which provides solid state disk, I/O buffering and a 
shared extended memory with transfer rates up to 1GB/sec. As usual, we 
will explore third party opportunities for our members with MasPar. And 
we will want to know if they are targeting industrial and commercial 
customers for their machine.

The meeting will take place at 7:30PM at Sun Microsystems at 901 East San 
Antonio Road in Mountain View, California. This is just off the southbound 
San Antonio exit of 101; northbound travelers also exit at San Antonio and
take the overpass to the other side of 101.

Please be prompt; as usual, we expect a large attendance; don't be left out or 
left standing. There is a $8 fee for non-members and members are admitted 
free.

-- 
B. Mitchell Loebel                                      parallel@netcom.COM
PARALLEL Processing Connection                                 408-732-9869
From: john@aquarius.unm.edu (John Prentice)
Subject: Re: status of Supercomputing Review?
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 02:03:25 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astro, University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep3.151548.5296@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov (Richard Mulac) writes:
>   What is the current status of Supercomputing Review?  

When I called Supernet a few weeks ago, they told me that they had a probable
buyer for Supercomputing Review and that they expected the magazine to resume
publication.  They said they would be sending something out in the mail this
month.  I guess I am not inclined to hold my breath however.  A pity, I too
enjoyed this magazine and found it informative.  I hope this is not an omen
of the future of supercomputing.

John
-- 
Dr. John K. Prentice                      
Partner, Quetzal Computational Associates    
3200 Carlisle N.E., Albuquerque, NM   87110-1664; 505-889-4543
john@aquarius.unm.edu -or- jkprent@cs.sandia.gov -or- prentice@rufous.cs.unm.edu
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From: yvent@ntua.gr (Yiannis Ventikos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
Subject: MARKET SURVEY FOR MASS. PARALLEL MACHINES
Summary: We are checking the market for a massiv. parallel machine.
Keywords: MASS PARALLEL
Date: 2 Sep 92 07:20:16 GMT
Organization: National Technical University of Athens



            MARKET SURVEY FOR MASS. PARALLEL MACHINES

We are checking the market for a massiv. parallel machine. We got no specs so
far, just price ranges:

Class a) Up to two  million US dollars ($2 000 000)
Class b) Up to four million US dollars ($4 000 000)
Class c) Up to six  million US dollars ($6 000 000)

Since this is an initial survey, we do not want to exclude anything, so the
definition "massiv. parallel machine" is to be taken in the broadest sence.
Any input is wellcomed, ranging from simple info like :
"XYZ  costs $2.3M"
to
"ABC with n processors, M Mbytes, G Gigaflops..."
up to 
"We have purchased a FGH and have been using it for... Our experience..."

Any and all answers will be appreciated. 
E-mail at the address at the end of this message is better, if too 
difficult just followup.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: aistmain@vntic.msk.su (Dispatcher of AIST-EuroAIST-RELCOM Boris I. Tarakanov)
Subject: NEW CIPHER-SYSTEM
Summary: NEW CIPHER-SYSTEM
Keywords: NEW CIPHER-SYSTEM
Reply-To: aistmain@vntic.msk.su
Organization: AIST-VNTIC INFORMATION NETWORK
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 01:19:03 +0300

              New cipher-system

 1. When the original information is euciphered every bit is
    treaded and redundancy of this information is absent
 2. The amount of variants of eucipher may be so much great,
    for example n=10**91
 3. The quantity of encipher operations for 1 bit are <=22,
    but decipher operations are <= 9 for case n=10**91
 4. Ecodered file is deciphered in turn bit from the end  of
    the text.

    This new cipher-system may be  used  for  protection  of
    information  from   unauthorized  access  and  for  data
    communications by communication chanels.

    Relation by electronic mail.



Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
From: rchrd@netcom.com (Richard Friedman)
Subject: Re: status of Supercomputing Review?
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 18:34:13 GMT
Organization: Applied Parallel Rsrch (Berkeley)

Whether they actually went under or had a sex change
is not clear.  But it looks like what started out as
an "add-on" feature, SUPERNET, has taken over.

I think this is a very bad idea.  I've even said so
on SUPERNET, only to have my comments deleted by 
their censors.

I looked forward to receiving SR every month, and
usually read my issues at a cafe after work, or
during lunch, or in the backyard at home.

I found SUPERNETs interface to be so lame and
retarded that I'm loathe to use it.  I guess one
could search around to find the articles  you'd
want to read, download them, print them, and then
read them next time you go to the bathroom.

But why?

Its really dumb.  And especially if now they are
going to ask us to PAY for this.

I would complain regarding the unused $$ of your
subscription.  Sounds to me like they are pocketing
the cash to cover expenses.

Maybe its time for some one else to pick yp the
pieces are publish another magazine for the
supercomputing community.

How about "Supercomputer User" for starters?
Anyone want to invest?
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From: mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov (Richard Mulac)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.super
Subject: status of Supercomputing Review?
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:15:48 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center [Cleveland, Ohio]


   What is the current status of Supercomputing Review?  May 92 was my last
issue and I still have a year and a half left on my subscription.  When I
called the magazine's phone number in July, they answered as SUPERNET
INTERNATIONAL.  I was told that in order to be more 'timely' they would no
longer be printing a 'hard copy' of the magazine, but instead would be
placing everthing online on SUPERNET.  She said the balance of my
subscription would be used to pay for access to SUPERNET.  I was also told
that information regarding subscription balances would be sent out in the
mail.  I have yet to receive anything.
   When SUPERNET came out, it was stated that it was provided FREE through
corporate sponsors.  This was reiterated in a recent e-mail I received from
SUPERNET a few weeks ago.  What's going on?  Has SR gone under?  If they
did it's a shame - I really enjoyed the magazine.

-- 
Richard Mulac                                     mulac@daystrom.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center, 21000 Brookpark Road, MS 5-9, Cleveland, OH  44135
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From: sam@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (B. Samuel Blanchard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
Subject: Re: wordperfect on s27
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:41:14 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Ontario Systems Corporation  Muncie IN

In article <1992Aug25.1151.838@dosgate> "rick copley" <rick.copley@canrem.com> writes:
>
>We are about to upgrade from DYNIX/ptx v1.2.3 to v1.3.1 and have not got
>a GOOD answer from WordPerfect Corp. about if it will run correctly.
>Has anyone out there got WP 5.0 on a SEQUENT system ?
>rick.copley@canrem.com
>Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario/Detroit, MI

We have WordPerfect 5.0 
We are running DYNIX/ptx V1.3.0 and will upgrade to V1.4.0 soon
The V1.3.1 was not loaded but I would anticipate no bad side effects.
I can look up WP tape if anyone wants to verify exact version info but
do not know of any issues in that area which would cause too much concern.
-- 
B. Sam Blanchard        sam@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
418 Winfield Dr         (317) 741-4500   work
Greenfield, IN 46140
From: QQ51@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
Subject: Third-party disks on SCED SCSI - how?
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:40:21 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

I have been trying without success to connect a Seagate ST42100 (Wren 9)
disk via the SCED SCSI bus on an S81 running PTX 1.3.  The kernel finds
the disk when it probes the bus at boot time and outputs a message

    WARNING: sd: not a supported embedded SCSI disk, target2, unit 0

It then refuses to have anything to do with the disk.

I have added the files /etc/diskinfo/wren9.{scsi,geom} and /etc/vtoc/wren9,
but it still doesn't work.  In desperation, I tried scanning /unix for the
Product Code strings for the supported sd disks mentioned in the 1.3 release
notes (CDC 94161 and Fujitsu M2249S).  I can't find them, and am now even more
confused.

Can anyone tell me if it's possible to add third-party disks, or are you
restricted to those supplied by Sequent? :-((

Please reply direct to me, and I will summarise.

Thanks.

Roger Brooks
Systems Programmer
The University of Liverpool Computer Laboratory
From: ehgasm2@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
Subject: MIPS & MFLOPS
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:10:02 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.

I feel the need for...  Hope someone knows the answer to this.  We've an 8
processor Sequent, and I need to know the MIPS & MFLOPS rating for a *single*
CPU.  The processors we have are 16MHz 386DXs (yes, 386s).  If anyone has
figures for this, please let me know them!  (If you only have info on 486s,
please send them on too.)

Thanks, in advance, Simon.

-- 
Simon Marshall, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Hull, Hull HU6 7RX, UK
  "Football isn't about life and death.  It's more important than that." Bill
Email: S.Marshall@Hull.ac.uk    Phone: +44 482 465181    Fax: 466666   Shankley
From: rhoadse@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (E. Robert Rhoads)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
Subject: Compiling and running expect
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:45:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1992Sep03.214517.8560
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

Hello,

Has anyone been able to get the program 'expect' running
on a Sequent running Dynix/ptx?  I was able to get TCL
and expect to compile, but when I try to execute an
expect script the script bombs on the 'spawn' command.
I suspect it is not initializing the pseudo tty device.
I don't follow the man pages on this subject.  If anyone
has any patches, comments, notes, examples of pseudo tty
code for Dynix/ptx, etc. I would very much like to hear
from you.  Thank you all in advance for any help you
might be able to give me.

Rob Rhoads
System Administrator
Oregon Museum of Science and Industry (OMSI)
(503)274-4505
rhoadse@prism.cs.orst.edu
...!hplabs!hp-pcd!orstcs!beatnik!rob
From: "rick copley" <rick.copley@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
Subject: wordperfect on s27
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:33:21 EST
Reply-To: "rick copley" <rick.copley@canrem.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Canada Remote Systems


We are about to upgrade from DYNIX/ptx v1.2.3 to v1.3.1 and have not got
a GOOD answer from WordPerfect Corp. about if it will run correctly.
Has anyone out there got WP 5.0 on a SEQUENT system ??  Please let me
know. (and NO I didn't choose WP - I Love vi !!!)

hack();

rick.copley@canrem.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
From: S.Marshall@sequent.cc.hull.ac.uk (Simon Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sequent
Subject: A technical shmalloc question.
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:03:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbvax.9209031506.AA23319


	Hi.  I'm trying to work out bottlenecks.  Shmalloc must lock in some
    way, in order to allocate unique blocks, even when calls to shmalloc are
    made concurrently.

	Does anyone know whether shmalloc locks *all* processes, within its
    body (ie. whatever other processes are doing), using something like
    m_lock(), or does shmalloc lock only within itself, allowing other
    processes to continue unless they call shmalloc.

	Please can anyone let me know?  Does anyone know?!

	Thanks, in advance, Simon. 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Simon Marshall, Dept. of Computer Science, University of Hull, Hull HU6 7RX, UK
  "Football isn't about life and death.  It's more important than that." Bill
Email: S.Marshall@Hull.ac.uk    Phone: +44 482 465181    Fax: 466666   Shankley