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Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: weird beers
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 09:07:44 -0500

HELP!  I'm a homebrewer who got volunteered to be brewer-of-the month 
for my brewclub's October meeting.  What the brewer-of-the-month 
generally needs to do is brew a case of beer of the specified style, 
plus write up a short article about the style for the club's newsletter. 
 Normally, this wouldn't be a problem, since there are reference works 
for *most* styles of beer.

  

However, October's style is Weird beers, and only netwisdom can help me 
now.  I do have an imagination, and I have come up with some ideas about 
what I can brew, but I need your help regarding the history of weird 
beers.  

  

Please, let me know if you have had any beers, commercial or otherwise, 
that had strange flavors/ingredients.  I guess you can leave lambics out 
of this, although, IMHO, they are definitely weird beers.

  

If I get sufficient info from the net to write my article, I certainly 
will post it to the net.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 16 Apr 1992 08:52:43 MST
From: <ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Utah beer
Distribution: world
 <1992Apr15.054311.19483@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
 <1992Apr15.162828.1640@u.washington.edu> <1366@hydra.bucknell.edu>

When the University of Utah announced the successful cold fusion experiment
a couple of years ago, skeptics said, "Cold fusion? In Utah?  Hell, you
can't even get cold beer in Utah!"
Loyd Means
Phoenix AZ
Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Wednesday, 15 Apr 1992 11:25:30 CET
From: <FNOTMAN@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: storing beer
Distribution: usa
 <Jhh+GaA@engin.umich.edu>

 The storage life of homebrew beer is very dependant on its alcohol (octane)
rating. Most UK commercial (i.e. draft) beers run about 2.8-3.5%, most European
beers are 5% (Aussie also). Homebrew tends to be more like rocket fuel and is
generally 8 and upwards (anything to 12%). Assuming all things equal (sterile,
sealed, even dead) then generally the stronger the longer (applies to maturing
as well as storing).
 'bout 20 years back I found a coupla bottles of stout (black beer, in this
case simillar to porter) made to one of my own recipies under the bed that were
over 2 years old (I'd plain forgot about them). It was GREEEEAAAT. My homebrew
was generally around 10% alcohol.
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: dcb@rosedale.uucp (Dave Breneman)
Subject: Re: Killer Whale Amber Ale  off-flavor
Organization: The Spud Goodman Show
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:51:56 GMT

In article <1881@transfer.stratus.com> leadfoot@bigbootay.sw.stratus.com (Mark Curtis) writes:
>I had the samething happen to me two weekends ago.  I picked up two
>bottles of Monterey Brewing Company's finest.  One was the ale and the
>other was the stout.  Safeway was selling them 2/$6.  I was visiting a
>friend and had stopped to pick up some good stuff on the way.  We took
>one taste of each and poured the rest of each bottle down the drain.  I
>was real pissed off.  I sure am glad I also picked up several bottles
>of Spaten along with the Monterey Brewing Company stuff.
>
Take it back!  Buying fresh vs. rancid products in a store is something
the owners of that store are supposed to take an interest in.  If you'd
gotten a swell-head can of soup or something you'd take it back, wouldn't
you? I got a really skunky bottle of Pilsner Urquell a couple of years back
and I drove it back to the store (in spite of my state's "open container"
law) and asked the checker to take a whiff from the bottle.  She said
"I thought that's how these imports are *supposed* to smell"  but I
told her that I would go back and pick another and open it there in the
store and if it was skunky too, I would complain directly to their
distributor for them to save them the trouble.  Rather than have *two*
open bottles of beer around (after all, it was a family supermarket :-)  )
she said I could take another and if it was skunky too they'd give me a
refund - no need to bring it back.  It was fine.  Of course, this wasn't
a Safeway store, so your mileage may, as they say, vary.
Remember - be a CUSTOMER not a CONSUMER.  (Active vs. passive nouns.)
Thank you.

-- 
David Breneman            #################          I'm an American, dammit.
The Spud Goodman Show      ####### #######           What gives Russians the
dcb@rosedale.uucp           #####   #####            the right to have less
 ..uunet!camco!rosedale!dcb      (_)  - - - Ciao.    government than me?
From: minich@bucknell.edu (matthew minich `93)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Cheapest Beer??
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:51:25 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.

In Central Pennsylvania we have two "Great" cheap beers.  First there is Gobels that runs for $7.00 a case.  It is advertised as the Crowd pleaser.  The other is Ortliebs, this is just a plain and simple beer that is about the same price and has the slogan "Try Joe's Beer."
From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Shelf life of beer
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:23:30 GMT
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

In article <3530@rosie.NeXT.COM> gsure@pragati.next.com (Ganesh Sure) writes:


>Hi,

>Does anyone know what shelf life of commercially bought beer (in bottles)  
>is? I have a few bottles sitting around for a year now. I am wondering if  
>they are still good enough to drink. How can I tell?

>GS
		Okay, I know I'm walking right into this, but here goes

			DRINK THEM!  If they taste lousy, they're not good

But this question looks suspicious to me.  If you read this group, how could 
you still have beer sitting around for a year without having a desire 
to consume it???
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From: frosty@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Frosty D. Snowman)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Beer Hunter
Keywords: beer, hunter
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:47:09 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

Hi all!

I was just wondering if anyone has seen Michael Jacksons "Beer Hunter"

I saw it in the AHA lit fairly cheap so I thought I might buy it.
( < $30 for both tapes) 

Is there only 2 tapes?

How is it?

Any general or specific info is much appreciated.

Thanks for you time.
Frosty

-- 
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Frosty D. Snowman  
Frosty@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
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From: nsmcintyre@uwovax.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Canadian beer trade barriers to be dropped
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:45:05 EST

In article <1992Apr2.060741.22827@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umcarman@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris D. Carman) writes:
> I think the entire purpose of the Canadian Government's decision
> to lower the trade restrictions on beer is to give the Canadian
> brewers a chance to export their product into the much larger
> U.S. market. 
>  
> While I'm not overwhelmed by the thought of the local breweries
> closing down, I hope that this decision will, in time, lower the
> cost of beer imported from overseas.  I'm getting tired of paying
> $5.50 for a pint of Newcastle Brown Ale or Bass Pale.
>  
> Fortunately, we here in Manitoba have the option of purchasing a
> rather nice beer from Saskatchewan that is made by an employee-
> run brewery:  Great Western.  The beer isn't all that bad.  Their
> recent "Christmas Goose" malt beer went over quite well with my
> taste buds!
>
From: dethomas@amherst.edu (The Human Torch)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: WHAT THE HELL
Date: 31 Mar 92 23:25:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: amherst.1992Mar31.192514.1
Organization: Grucci Fireworks Inc.

In article <1992Mar27.003925.22290@news.iastate.edu>, txd84@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
> WHO'S DRINKING ALL THIS FAGGOT FORGIEN BEER!!!! (especially Guiness)  This is a 
> question that my friends and I have been asking each other all week.  As for me
> I was born in AMERICA, so I drink AMERICAN.  HELL half the trade deficit must
> be coming from all these pinko forgien beers.  REAL MEN, (emphisized) drink 
> American beer, drive American cars, fuck American WOMEN (not men, no matter
> what the man's nationality), and ride HARLEYS!!!  P.S. Iowa State Basketball
> ROCKS! 

You know, I'm a relative newcomer to this group, but I can already see thet
there's going to be a lot of flames running around in here. Why does it seem
that talking about beer seems to draw out the most thick skulled dip shits in
America? (For all you people who talk about useful things, more power to you.
I'm enjoying the discussion!)

Now on to the bonehead's comments. First, I have to tell you that calling
foreign beer "faggot beer" is kind of stupid, since any German, Irishman,
Belgian, Englishman, and a whole slew of other nationalities could probably
drink you under the table in no time, since the beer they drink at home makes
American beer look like water. It has higher alchohol content, it has a fuller
taste, and could probably kick your ass in two or three drinks.

As for being born American and therefore drinking "American," do you follow
that particular philosophy in all of your habits? Bet that computer you typed
that piece of trash on would be prety surprised to know that it was all
american.... 

As for American cars, yes I plan to buy one, but only because I happen to
_like_ them, not because I am some no-brainer who thinks American=good.

I suggest you branch out your tastes a bit more on women too. South American
women (IMHO of course) are much better looking than American ones. The same can
be said for quite a number of Asian women I know, as well as Indian, Spanish,
and a good number of other nationalities. Take a look around you. There are hot
women not matter where you look, and if you can't see that, you should just go
home and shoot yourself now.

Harleys. Hmmmm. How come the only people I know who want Harleys are Europeans?

And one last note: How come Iowa State is sitting at home right now?

Go home and play with your GI Joe action figure (with the Kung-fu grip! :-) and
leave the rest of us to talk about a topic that is so much more interesting:
good beer, no matter where it comes from!!!

later days! 
--dt

-- 
Dennis E. Thomas, Vagrant	   |    Amherst _still_ hasn't figured out 
dethomas@amhux1.amherst.edu 	   |     what do do with me, how could I 
roach@aux1.amherst.edu		   |    possibly presume to speak for them?
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From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Sagres (Portugal)
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:17:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: polisci.rpaolino.217
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

In article <MARTIN.92Apr9134344@lyra.cis.umassd.edu> martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin) writes:

>In article <1992Apr8.233826.6366@ericsson.se> ebccdes@bosun.ericsson.se (Carlos de Sousa) writes:

>   Hi, 
>   has anyone tried SAGRES from Portugal ? Could I have some opinions ???

>It's readily available, and quite inexpensive here in the Fall River - New
>Bedford, Massachusetts area, so I tried it a few years ago.  At about $11
>for a case of 24, how could I resist.  It was drinkable, but not interesting,
>so I haven't bought it again.  It's a fairly light lager - better than
>its American counterparts, but not much better.  I don't recall any details
>of the taste.


>--
>Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
>Martin@cis.umassd.edu
Not beer related, but WTH is UMass-Dartmouth.  Did they rename or upgrade a 
state college, or is it a new school?

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                I should be
                Fast asleep
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From: nsmcintyre@uwovax.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Canadian beer trade barriers to be dropped"in article<umcarmen@ccu.umanitoba.ca>writes"
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:01:32 EST

In article <1992Apr2.060741.22827@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, umcarman@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Chris D. Carman) writes:
> I think the entire purpose of the Canadian Government's decision
> to lower the trade restrictions on beer is to give the Canadian
> brewers a chance to export their product into the much larger
> U.S. market. 
>  
> While I'm not overwhelmed by the thought of the local breweries
> closing down, I hope that this decision will, in time, lower the
> cost of beer imported from overseas.  I'm getting tired of paying
> $5.50 for a pint of Newcastle Brown Ale or Bass Pale.
>  
> Fortunately, we here in Manitoba have the option of purchasing a
> rather nice beer from Saskatchewan that is made by an employee-
> run brewery:  Great Western.  The beer isn't all that bad.  Their
> recent "Christmas Goose" malt beer went over quite well with my
> taste buds!
>
From: brown@slc8.INS.CWRU.Edu (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Pete's Wicked Ale?
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:19:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr14.161947.5906
Organization: Subversive Student Publications un-inc.

In an earlier posting cm0o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Craig Arno Mrusek) writes:
>In reference to a bar somewhere, Tom Steegmann writes:
>> I recently enjoyed my first Pete's Wicked Ale, 
>>which they have on tap at a reasonable price, there.

I would love to try this stuff on tap... I have only been able to get it in
bottles.

>	I saw this stuff sold in bottles by the six-pack in Columbus, OH,
>recently.  I can't remember specifically what the price was, but I do
>remember it being LUDICROUSLY expensive.

Its not so bad in Cleveland. It is a bit more expensive than the regular fare,
but isn't as expensive as say, Sam Adams or Sierra Nevada.

>	My questions are:  Why so pricey?  Is it imported?  Is it just that

Its imported all the way from August Schells Brewing company in Scenic New
Ulm Minnesota.

later.
Dan

-- 
Dan Brown
brown@ins.cwru.edu
From: gademsky@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Cheapest Beer??
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:04:32 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr7.183653.3852@spectrum.xerox.com>, damouth@wrc.xerox.com (David E. Damouth) writes:
> 
> 	>>-it comes to cheap beer, thereis only one choice for me: Koch's Golden
> 	Aniversery (sp?)--
> 
> Interesting you should mention that - I was curious how widely it was distrib
uted.  Here, I've only seen it in 12 oz cans, for as low as $6.00 per case.  I
 agree it's quite drinkable - no character, but no off flavors either.

> 
> The interesting part is that the can says that it is made here in Rochester "since 1892" or something like that.  There is no Koch's brewery in the phone book.  And the market was flooded with the stuff here, so the volume seems well beyond what a start
> 
> /Dave
> David E. Damouth
> Xerox Webster Research Center
> damouth@wrc.xerox.com

That's the beer that my father drinks.  I believe that Kochs Golden Anniversary
is brewed by Kochs Brewery located in Dunkirk New York.  That is outside of
Buffalo, NY.  

Doug G.
From: citrin@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Wayne Citrin)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Munich beer restaurants?
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:57:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: colorado.1992Apr13.205748.25544
Distribution: alt
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <gdu9i1e00WBKM2vYAo@andrew.cmu.edu> lb31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lothar Boensch) writes:
>
>Finally, if you have wheels, head off to Endachs (a Monastery about 45
>>minutes outside of Munich).  The have giant Hexen (a Bavarian speciality) 
                                              ^^^^^

I think you're talking about Schweinhaxen (roasted pigs' trotters).  Good
stuff.  By the way, "Hexen" are "witches".  :-)

Wayne

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Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Robert Williams Dobson)
Subject: Ontario bans Milwaukees Best!?!?!
Summary: American mass produced beer is not worth exporting
Keywords: its fryday!!!!
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:44:59 GMT

So, after reading the article about Ontario banning American beer, I wonder

WHY WOULD CANADIANS BUY SHITTY AMERICAN MASS PRODCUED BEER ANYWAY??

Except for the microbreweries, American beer is weak, weak, weak. I only
drink it here b/c Busch is just 5.69/12-pack. So why would Canadians want
to import this crap anyway?

I guess thats why the article noted how this would only affect like 3% of
beer sold in Ontario anyway.....

and you folks from Iowa state who just LOOOOOVEEE american beer--
knock yourselves out, but dont write to me. I dont want to here it.

Rob " I cant wait till i win the lottery and Ill never drink cheap
American beer again ever" Dobson
From: siebeck@infoac.rmi.de (Wolfgang Siebeck )
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Sagres (Portugal)
Date: 10 Apr 92 06:01:57 GMT
Organization: RMI Net INFO.box Systems * Aachen * Hamburg * Flensburg

ebccdes@bosun.ericsson.se (Carlos de Sousa) writes:

>has anyone tried SAGRES from Portugal ?

Yes, I did. Some years ago, when I stayed in Protugal for a holiday. Must
say, I really liked it. A bit like the San Miguel in Spain. 

-ws
--
siebeck@infoac.rmi.de (Wolfgang Siebeck)
From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: GREAT CHEAP BEERS!
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:22:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: polisci.rpaolino.219
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

In article <kdsr3kW00awUQ1Y0wj@andrew.cmu.edu> cm0o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Craig Arno Mrusek) writes:

>I've been told by most of my friends that my taste in beer sucks , but
>what the hell.  Here's my two cents:

>               ***My Top Three Penny-Pinching Brands***


>3)  Iron City ( Okay, maybe not so cheap, but I'm a native Pittsburgher,
>so     sue me.  I don't know what the distribution is like outside the
>       Pittsburgh area,  so someone surprise me and say they've managed        to
>find a bottle in some far flung region.)

>2)  Schaefer ( Among myself and my friends, this is the brand that get
>       purchased most frequently.  Like someone mentioned earlier, it  really
>is the best combination of taste and low price.  Around here   we can
>usually find a case of 12 oz. for 7 bucks, and 16's usually run        between
>9-11 bucks.)

>And the winner is...

>1)  GENESSEE CREAM ALE  ( Not quite as cheap as Schaefer in these parts,
>but I like it enough to spend the extra dollar or two.  Of course I
>realize that I am one of approximately 14 people in the known world who
>actually *like* GCA (or at least admit it!), so let the insults fly. 
>I'm used to it...)


>                                               Happy Guzzling,



>                                                               -Craig
> 
OKAY, HERE'S ONE OF MANY INSULTS.  I liked Genny Cream over other water-
beers.  I was about 15 at the time.

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                I should be
                Fast asleep
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From: rpaolino@polisci.pol.umn.edu (Robert Paolino)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: R.R.
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:30:35 GMT
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota

In article <9APR199217551806@zeus.tamu.edu> rfs0838@zeus.tamu.edu (SCHAFFTER, RODNEY FRANK, JR) writes:

>In article <s1vvlINNffi@cs.utexas.edu>, wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward) writes...

>>On a related note, is there any worse beer than Bud Light in the can?!?
>>None seem to come to mind...

>>Rick
>       Have you ever tried Simpatico?
>       It is a Mexican beer that tastes much like the water in a garden 
>hose that has sat out in the sun.

>Cheers!
>Rod Schaffter                                 	
>Laboratory for Molecular Structure and Bonding |Who cares if windows is or 
>Texas A&M University Dept. of Chemistry                |isn't an opperating system-
>Bitnet:   SCHAFFTER@TAMLMSB                    |it barely operates at all!
>INTERNET: SCHAFFTER@LMSBVX.TAMU.EDU            |
>       "Standard Disclaimer, etc."             |An OOPerating system, maybe?


I remember seeing an article about that in the business section of the local 
paper when the "beer" first came out.  The article described how the company 
did an incredible amount of market research into deciding on the bottle.  
The beer was an afterthought.  The big thing was looking for something
"unique" that would sell, and they decided on the opaque black bottle.
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                I should be
                Fast asleep
                But my mind won't let me
                Feels like it's going to 
                     EX-PLODE!
                                --Blue Rodeo
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From: ebccdes@bosun.ericsson.se (Carlos de Sousa)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Scotch Ales
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:28:39 GMT
Reply-To: ebccdes@bosun.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Business Communications AB
Cc: dsnhpl@dsna1

In article 2568@jade.tufts.edu, dvorbric@jade.tufts.edu ((((RECUR)SION)((M)AN))) writes:
>Half of me is Scottish (from my mother's side), but I have never really
>come close to enjoying a nice glass of Scotch.  Recently, however, I 
>decided to remedy this lack of Scottish culture by buying a six-pack of
>McEwans Scotch Ale.  I really enjoyed this ale, and was wondering what
>others think of it, or other Scotch Ales.  Is any one ale considered
>the best?  Should I run out to specifically try another label?
>
>-David V.
> dwv@cs.tufts.edu

Two years ago, I was in Scotland and there I meet with McEwans for the first
time, and I can tell you, that was a really good experience, later on I 
tried McEwans Export and felt in love with it directly.



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