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From: ralf+@cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.lang.pascal
Subject: Re: Problems using exec to run a program that accesses modem
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:21:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Aug13.032112.220582
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Aug12.172925.12112@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> sjmadsen@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Steve Madsen) writes:
}It's my
}experience that getting modems and serial ports to operate flawlessly when
}there is no one there to fix things is a tough thing to do. 

Yeah, many BBS sysops swear to the existence of a 'vacation detector' in
their hardware or BBS program.  A board that has been running flawlessly
for months always seems to go down within twelve hours of the sysop leaving
on a month-long vacation....




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From: heathh@cco.caltech.edu (Heath Ian Hunnicutt)
Subject: What is Futurus' *.CUA executable fil format?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:16:32 GMT

Hi,
	I'm working for an office that uses Futurus Team (tm), a
DOS TSR organizer, scheduler, email front-end, etc., for networks
such as Novell.  Each individual compnent of the package, such as
the email portion is contained in a special format executable which
the TSR loads as needed.  The modules are in files ending with
".CUA"  
	My question:  What is the file format for .CUA files, and 
what is the interface to the Team executable?  I believe that the
Modules make int A4 calls, so I'm wondering what services Team provides
on that interrupt.

	Thanks in advance,
	Heath Hunnicutt

P.S.  I called Futurus, and they said they didn't think I could
possibly write a CUA, then told me they'd have a tech guy call back,
but he never did.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: Where is the size of the environment block?
From: a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com (Arthur Rubin)
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:09:11 GMT

In <1992Aug19.135810.156@indyvax.iupui.edu> imhw400@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:

>WARNING:  newbie-type question follows.  I've been writing mainframe assembly
>language for years, but this is my very first program for MSDOS or the 80x86.

>I'm writing a gadget that needs to create or update an environment variable. 
>I'm writing in Arrowsoft Assembler (the only real-address-mode translator I've
>found for free :-) and have no libraries, so I have to code this myself.  I can
>find the parent process' environment block with no problem, and (I think) I
>understand the format thereof except for one thing:  how do I know the size of
>the environment block that I've located, so I don't run off the end and damage
>other structures?

Not bad.  From Ralf Brown's interrupt list (under "2152: GET LIST OF
LISTS") on memory control blocks, the answer is: the number of paragraphs
in the enviroment is the word at (envseg-1):3; the environment is a memory
block.  (This may not be compatible with some UMB managers.)
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From: darrylo@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Darryl Okahata)
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 05:57:12 GMT
Subject: Anyone know of an "un-exepack" program?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer

     Does an "un-exepack" program exist?  I've got a copy of the MSCDEX
CDROM driver, and it's been packed with exepack (MSDOS 5.0 version, I
think).  Unfortunately, this means that I have trouble loading it into
high memory, as the unpacking process requires more memory than is
generally available in high mem.  There's enough room for the driver,
but not enough for the unpacking process.

     Thanks,
     -- Darryl Okahata
	darrylo@sr.hp.com
From: ISB202REID@redgum.qut.edu.au (Did somebody say Coffee ??????)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Info on network cards.
Date: 19 Aug 1992 21:44:52 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Hi out there,

I'm looking for some tech info on network cards as I want to try
and write some drivers for myself.

-Fodd

isb202reid@qut.edu.au
n1019031@water.fit.qut.edu.au
From: ralf+@cs.cmu.edu (Ralf Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: Summary: P.D. MAKE for msdos
Date: 15 Aug 92 01:28:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bt043w.BKt.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Aug14.152501.17351@exu.ericsson.se> exuhag@exu.ericsson.se writes:
}that the documentation really stinks.  It is not even clearly
}stated which Borland products include the autodependency
}information (I know C does, but TASM?).  In classic Borland

Yes.  Since at least version 2.0.
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From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: A batch programming contest for you
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:16:48 GMT
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland

In article <1992Aug19.153902.6706@spuddy.uucp> sweh@spuddy.uucp (Stephen Harris) writes:
>In article <1992Aug18.052017.3758@uwasa.fi> ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) writes:
>>I have a puzzle for you gentle fellow programmers who are interested
>>in batch programming. The task is the following.  With the standard
>>batch commands write a batch that returns the extension of the
>>(file) name given to the batch as the parameter (%1). No external
>>commands or programs are allowed to perform the task.

>  for %%a in (/%x%) do set y=%%a

**** Boing ***** Boing ***** Boing ***** Boing ***** Boing *****

BINGO! This is the key trick.  Mine is based on this too, so here
goes then.  And my compliments to everyone.  Participation is its
own reward and we all are winners.  Incidentally the /%x% (the slash
is essential) is interepted as two different arguments.  The first
letter of %x% and the rest of it.  That information was published by
the PC-Magazine, but the idea using it to this task at hand was
fully due to yours truly. 

   All the best, Timo

@echo off

if "%1"=="" goto _noparam

for %%f in (%1) do if "%%f"=="%1" goto _nowilds
Echo Wildcards are not allowed
goto _out

:_nowilds
set exten_=%1
:_next
set prev_=%exten_%
for %%f in (/%exten_%) do set exten_=%%f
if ".%exten_%"=="%prev_%" goto _extfound
if not "%exten_%"=="%prev_%" goto _next
goto _noext

:_extfound
echo The filename %1 has an extension %exten_%
goto _out

:_noext
echo The filename %1 has no extension
goto _out

:_noparam
echo Usage: GETEXT [FileName]

:_out
set exten_=
set prev_=


>PS: Timo, please don't moan at the .UUCP address :-)

A good point actually, because they tend to bounce from this side of
tings. 

>                               Stephen Harris

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: 4DOS diversion (Was Re: A batch programming contest for you)
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 04:17:14 GMT

In article <!00mmbb.messina@netcom.com> messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk) writes:
>I have a string feeling you are confused.  4DOS is not a replacement of
>MSDOS, it is a complement of it, just like COMMAND.COM is, of which it
>is a replacement.  It has all the functionality and compatibility with
>it, but adds some features which enhance _MSDOS_.  It does not require
>any more hardware or any different hardware.

>I found your reply to be either uninformed (despite your being a keeper
>of garbo.uwasa) or misinforming.

Nah, I am not ignorant in this one, even if I readily admit to that
in many other cases.  My reply was meant playful if anything, to the
diversion created.  If we wish to start calling names, perhaps the
best description is to call 4DOS an alternative command interpreter. 
Even so it does not alter the fact that suggesting changing the
command interpreter is just a wee bit heavier solution to the
original problem than what I had in mind :-). 

The funny side of it is that it is almost predestined that when an
MsDos problem is posed some dedicated soul suggests using 4DOS. 
(Which, I repeat, is an impressive and useful interpreter, but that
still is beside the original question). 

   All the best, Timo

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From: sdoran@sam.ksu.ksu.edu (Steven Marcotte)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: Can't link in math libs in djgpp
Date: 20 Aug 1992 19:16:56 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.ksu.ksu.edu



>  I've installed all the djgpp distribution files in my djgpp directory, but 
>when I try to use a maths function the error is as follows:
>
>test.o: Undefined symbol _tan referenced from text segment
>
>  I have all the set vars in my autoexec bat and a simple "Hello World" 
>program works, so <stdio.h> is OK.  By the way I _am_ using <math.h>. 8-}
>
>  Any ideas?


If it is anything like the unix version, which it should be, you must
specifically tell it to like the math library I believe it is something
like:

 cc <filename> -lm
               ----

That should do it.
 
Steven Marcotte
sdoran@matt.ksu.ksu.edu

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Subject: VGA to laser printer needed
From: gordon@chmeds.ac.nz
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:05:34 +1300

I'm looking for a print screen routine which will dump a GRAPHICS screen to
an HPGL printer. VGA is needed; Herc etc optional.  Any language will be 
fine, but I need source code so I can use the routine in programs I'm
developing right now.

I wrote one a couple of years ago (it's on Simtel) to dump graphics
to an Epsom dot-matrix; I'm not keen to reinvent it if someone has already
done the job for lasers.

Anyone got any leads?

advthanksance
-- 
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                 Nuclear-free New Zealand         !My life would be easier
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From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: Can TSR slow down system too much?
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:57:03 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

>In article <15775@star.cs.vu.nl>, estel@cs.vu.nl (Stel E) writes:
>> 
>> I've made a simple Screen Saver. I'd like the program to work
>
>Rather than checking at every clock tick, why not check with
>each key press (Int 9).  This is much more efficient (at least
>in my experience), and seems to make more sense.
>
I can't see how a screen saver would work that way!
                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

One suggestion for the speed time:
After I tried Borland C++, I added the help system which is a TSR
(I can't use the integrated environment).  Having the TSR installed,
the compilation speed was the half!  One suggested that the TSR was
taking memory and this made any memory-consommer program slower (since
the program has to swap on disk when memory is full).  The memory may
be a major point if you save a graphics screen with some high definition card.

BUT, I was and still am a Zortech user.  And I did not notice the
compiler slowdown in having the Zortech _old_ help system installed
(I don't use the ZTC3.00r4 help which is from another dealer anyway and
is bugged : maybe like the Windowsmaker, the licencer will sale you 
the not bugged version :-(  ).

To summarize, depending on how you implement it, you may have a different
effect on speed.  One reason is the duration of service (you could use
an Assembler program to minimize time slice while waiting for screen
to be saved).  Another is the memory you are using.  And there maybe some
other reason (one nasty : if your program writes to some place in memory
and this modify the DOS or the foreground program; but lets presume this is
not the case).

One last comment : Zortech has a TSR package included with the compiler.
(It will allow _one_ entry by a special key combination and time slicing).
Other commercial or shareware packages may exist.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: glen@wench.ece.jcu.edu.au (Glen Harris)
Subject: Can't link in math libs in djgpp
Summary: frustration
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, JCUNQ
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:08:20 GMT


  I've installed all the djgpp distribution files in my djgpp directory, but 
when I try to use a maths function the error is as follows:

test.o: Undefined symbol _tan referenced from text segment

  I have all the set vars in my autoexec bat and a simple "Hello World" 
program works, so <stdio.h> is OK.  By the way I _am_ using <math.h>. 8-}

  Any ideas?
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: 4DOS diversion (Was Re: A batch programming contest for you)
Date: 20 Aug 92 02:51:30 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

In a previous article, ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) says:
>In article <!00mmbb.messina@netcom.com> messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk) writes:
>The funny side of it is that it is almost predestined that when an
>MsDos problem is posed some dedicated soul suggests using 4DOS. 
>(Which, I repeat, is an impressive and useful interpreter, but that
>still is beside the original question). 

Well, if you consider, as many do, that command.com IS the problem...
-- 
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From: Charlie_Hutchins@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Hutchins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: Re: Why can't I hook INT 21h???
Date: 22 Aug 92 06:12:45 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> Gregory Humphreys writes:
> 
> Msg-ID: <1992Aug21.175406.3881@alw.nih.gov>
> Posted: 21 Aug 92 17:54:06 GMT
> 
> Org.  : National Inst. of Health, DCRT, CSL
> 
> In article <frank.714406708@fam168>, Frank Hoffmann <fh.pad@sni.de> writes:
> |> rmathews@zeus.calpoly.edu (Bob Mathews) writes:
> |>
> |> >Charlie_Hutchins@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Hutchins) writes:
> |> >>Okay, maybe someone could help me here.  I am trying to write a TSR
> |> >>that hooks interrupt 21h but whenever I try and hook that vector I
> |> >>get an invalid command.com error and my system crashes.  I am using
> |> >>TC++ 3.0 ....
> |> >[code deleted]
> |>
> |> >The turbo c interrupt function automatically saves all cpu registers.
> |> >The return values from DOS are getting clobbered.  Code like this
> |> >absolutely needs to be written in assembly.  You need to have complete
> |> >control of what's happening to the machine.
> |>
> |> >swehtam bob
> |>
> |> Same does MSC 5/6. You must write in ASM as well or add additional
> ASM-Code
> |> to restore the regs and the stack-ptr.
> 
> IMUST disagree here.  I have written numerous similar programs in C and
> hooking
> interrupts is just as reliable in C.  There is NOTHING you can't do in C that
> you CAN in assembley.
> 
> Okay, lets see you write a short program in C that will do nothing
> but sit in memory and hook interrupt 21h, returning control to the
> original INT 21h when it's called.  No matter what I try I CAN'T
> hook INT 21h from C. (TC++ 3.0 anyways).  Well?  Can you do it? (In
> TC++ 3.0?)
> 
> 
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
From: gregh@alw.nih.gov (Gregory Humphreys)
Subject: Re: Why can't I hook INT 21h???
Organization: National Inst. of Health, DCRT, CSL
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:54:06 GMT

In article <frank.714406708@fam168>, Frank Hoffmann <fh.pad@sni.de> writes:
|> rmathews@zeus.calpoly.edu (Bob Mathews) writes:
|> 
|> >Charlie_Hutchins@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Hutchins) writes:
|> >>Okay, maybe someone could help me here.  I am trying to write a TSR
|> >>that hooks interrupt 21h but whenever I try and hook that vector I
|> >>get an invalid command.com error and my system crashes.  I am using
|> >>TC++ 3.0 ....
|> >[code deleted]
|> 
|> >The turbo c interrupt function automatically saves all cpu registers.
|> >The return values from DOS are getting clobbered.  Code like this
|> >absolutely needs to be written in assembly.  You need to have complete
|> >control of what's happening to the machine.
|> 
|> >swehtam bob
|> 
|> Same does MSC 5/6. You must write in ASM as well or add additional ASM-Code
|> to restore the regs and the stack-ptr.

IMUST disagree here.  I have written numerous similar programs in C and hooking 
interrupts is just as reliable in C.  There is NOTHING you can't do in C that you CAN in assembley.

|> 
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From: chr@datmuc.UUCP (ChristianLechner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: ES_MULTILINE Editfield in modeless dialogbox
Date: 17 Aug 92 07:31:04 GMT

I want to insert a small texteditor into my WINDOWS 3.1 application.
I use a modeless DialogBox, filled completely with an Edit-control
with ES_MULTILINE.
I run into trouble when the edit-dialogbox looses the focus, i.e.
when I select another window while editing. The text in my edit-window
disappears and I cannot type any text into my editor. When I close and
restart the editor everything is fine again.
Anybody knows this problem and has some advice?

Thanks,
	Christian
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From: rgc@swlrau.msd.ray.com (RICK CARLE)
Subject: Re: 4DOS diversion (Was Re: A batch programming contest for you)
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:25:43 GMT


ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi) writes:

>The funny side of it is that it is almost predestined that when an
>MsDos problem is posed some dedicated soul suggests using 4DOS. 

On the other hand, the solution to perhaps half the msdos problems seems
to be replacement of command.com by 4dos.  The solution to half the
remaining half is replacement of msdos by drdos.  After that you need
something like os2v2.  So it's not hard to replace msdos, but solving
its problems takes 3 programs.
	Rick
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From: ts@uwasa.fi (Timo Salmi)
Subject: Re: BIOS/DOS interrupt list
Followup-To: comp.os.msdos.programmer
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:17:40 GMT

In article <92230.211630ISSLKA@BYUVM.BITNET> <ISSLKA@BYUVM.BITNET> writes:
>Can somebody please let me know where I can find a good list of DOS and BIOS
>interrupts, with descriptions and necassary parameter values?  I'm a student

288981 Jul 12 09:40 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/programming/inter31a.zip
276636 Jul 12 09:36 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/programming/inter31b.zip
164568 Jul 12 09:39 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/programming/inter31c.zip

284028 Apr 15  1991 garbo.uwasa.fi:/pc/programming/helppc21.zip

"If you do not know how to go about getting this material, users are
welcome to email me for the prerecorded garbo.uwasa.fi instructions
(long, circa 29Kb).  North American users are referred to the garbo
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archie.au mirror.  The mirrors may lag occasionally, or might not
have all the files.  If you do not receive my reply within five
days, please ask your own site's system manager to construct a
returnable mail path for you". 

..................................................................
Prof. Timo Salmi
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Internet: ts@uwasa.fi Bitnet: salmi@finfun   ; SF-65101, Finland
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From: nigel@cotswold.demon.co.uk (Nigel Roles)
Subject: Re: Turbo C++ 3.1 -- does it exist ?
Distribution: world
Organization: Interconnect
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:09:25 +0000


In article <1992Aug20.181514.9597@uoft02.utoledo.edu> billp@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Bill Parquet) writes:

> kestes@nswc-wo.navy.mil (Kent Estes) writes:
> : I've heard that Turbo C++ 3.1 is out.  Is this true ?  If so
> : can anyone tell me what has changed/improved ?
> 
> Not to much (I think) They implemented the C++ standard version 2.1 and
> support for windows 3.1.
> 
> 
That's Borland C++ 3.1 not Turbo C++ 3.1.
Xref: sparky comp.os.msdos.programmer:8518 comp.os.msdos.apps:4298
From: pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.programmer,comp.os.msdos.apps
Subject: What is the BEST make utility for DOS development?
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:27:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Aug13.162727.21019
Reply-To: pynq@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: D. J. Dougherty & Associates

I am looking around for a good MAKE for DOS development (primarily C,
but I also use MAKE for various other file management tasks).

I have been using the MAKE that comes with Borland C++ (2.0), and it
seems pretty reasonable (It is dated 2/13/91), but I frequently hear
good things about various other MAKEs, including NDMAKE.  NDMAKE hasn't
been updated since about 1/88, which makes me nervous, but on other the
other hand, MAKE is not exactly rocket science to begin with...

Then, of course, there is GNU Make, for which there is a DOS port.  I
assume like everything GNU that it probably has a zillion features you
will never use, plus its own little collection of bugs to go with these
new features...

Any suggestions?  (Am I fine where I am?)
(I did look around on WUarchive for MAKE - saw some things, but nothing
really grabbed me)

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