HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mschenk@research.ptt.nl (Mike Schenk +31 70 33 23926)
Subject: Re: File, magnetron
Organization: PTT Research
Distribution: nlnet
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:23:40 GMT

In article <1h00jvINNt7q@cascade.cs.ubc.ca>, kvdoel@cs.ubc.ca (Kees van den Doel) writes:
> In article <4849@svin09.info.win.tue.nl>
> pp@info.win.tue.nl (Peter Peters) writes:
> 
>>Ik ben het helemaal eens met het "vreemd klinken" van het woord bestand,
>>alhoewel dat natuurlijk de juiste Nederlandse benaming is.
>>Dit probleem treedt altijd op wanneer "jargon" vertaald wordt naar het
>>Nederlands.
> 
> Iets wat ik me altijd heb afgevraagd is: waar komen die nieuwe woorden
> in het Nederlands nu eigenlijk vandaag? Ik bedoel woorden zoals
> "computer","magnetron","bestand" als benaming voor een computer "file"
> enz. Hier bedoel ik met "vandaan komen": hoe wordt er nu besloten om een
> computer "computer" te noemen i.p.v. bv. "rekenmachine" enz.
> 
> In Ijsland is er een speciale commissie die, als er een nieuw begrip
> moet worden ingevoerd waar tot dan toe geen woord in de Ijslandse taal
> voor bestaat, een speciaal "custom-made" Ijslands woord hiervoor
> invoert, dat dan algemeen gebruikt wordt. Dat was tenminste zo toen ik
> daar 14 jaar terug was, het zal nog wel zo wezen.
> 
> Hoe gaat dat in Nederland, weet iemand dit?

Volgens mij gebeurt dat gewoon vanzelf. En zeker met technische 
termen is het gewoon heel handig om de engelse termen over te 
nemen zeker als je internationaal een beetje wil meetellen!

    Mike
From: vanloon@cwi.nl (Maarten van Loon)
Newsgroups: nlnet.taal
Subject: Re: File, magnetron
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:04:05 GMT
Distribution: nlnet
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam

In article <BzLu5t.C3@cs.vu.nl> dnicola@cs.vu.nl (Nicolaas D) writes:
>Het Nederlandse systeem brengt met zich mee dat er relatief veel buitenlandse
>woorden in het Nederlands worden gebruikt. Overigens doet de Taaladviesdienst
>(inderdaad, die lui van het maandblad `Onze taal') zijn best om goede Neder-
>landse woorden, indien voorradig, voor te stellen aan eenieder die behoefte
>heeft aan een eenduidig jargon. Zo publiceerde de dienst onlangs een lijst
>computerjargon (waar mijns inziens wel wat missers inzaten, maar ja).

Waar is die lijst te verkrijgen, want die wil ik dan wel eens zien :-).
Het mooiste zou natuurlijk zijn dat men die via het net verspreidde. Op
die manier komt het bij de mensen die er het meeste aan hebben/ lol om
kunnen hebben.
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Newsgroups: nlnet.taal
From: dnicola@cs.vu.nl (Nicolaas D)
Subject: Re: File, magnetron
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Distribution: nlnet
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:22:41 GMT

kvdoel@cs.ubc.ca (Kees van den Doel) writes:

>In article <4849@svin09.info.win.tue.nl>
>[...]
>Iets wat ik me altijd heb afgevraagd is: waar komen die nieuwe woorden
>in het Nederlands nu eigenlijk vandaag? Ik bedoel woorden zoals
>"computer","magnetron","bestand" als benaming voor een computer "file"
>enz. Hier bedoel ik met "vandaan komen": hoe wordt er nu besloten om een
>computer "computer" te noemen i.p.v. bv. "rekenmachine" enz.

Er is niet een commissie die dat beslist, zoals in Frankrijk bijvoorbeeld.
In Nederland worden dergelijke woorden gewoon gebruikt, en de heer Kruijs-
kamp c.s. besluiten op een gegeven moment dat het Nederlands geworden is.

>In Ijsland is er een speciale commissie die, als er een nieuw begrip
>moet worden ingevoerd waar tot dan toe geen woord in de Ijslandse taal
>voor bestaat, een speciaal "custom-made" Ijslands woord hiervoor
>invoert, dat dan algemeen gebruikt wordt. Dat was tenminste zo toen ik
>daar 14 jaar terug was, het zal nog wel zo wezen.

Het Nederlandse systeem brengt met zich mee dat er relatief veel buitenlandse
woorden in het Nederlands worden gebruikt. Overigens doet de Taaladviesdienst
(inderdaad, die lui van het maandblad `Onze taal') zijn best om goede Neder-
landse woorden, indien voorradig, voor te stellen aan eenieder die behoefte
heeft aan een eenduidig jargon. Zo publiceerde de dienst onlangs een lijst
computerjargon (waar mijns inziens wel wat missers inzaten, maar ja).

>[...]

>Kees


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Newsgroups: nlnet.taal
From: rvloon@cv.ruu.nl (Ronald van Loon)
Subject: Re: Nederlandse uitdrukking??
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 22:18:52 GMT
Distribution: nlnet
Organization: University of Utrecht, 3D Computer Vision Research Group

In <thole.725128956@cs.rulimburg.nl> thole@cs.rulimburg.nl (Johan Thole) writes:

|"Ik gebruikte vandaag de uitdrukking "De griebels lopen mij over de
|"grobbels" (ik krijg er kouwe rillingen van). Naar aanleiding van de
|"reacties vraag ik mij af of deze uitdrukking algemeen bekend is. Ik heb het
|"vermoeden dat deze uitdrukking oorspronkelijk uit het Drents afkomstig is.
|"Klopt dit?
|"

Bij ons in de familie zijn het 'grabbels' geen 'grobbels'. Ik ken de
uitdrukking wel, kom niet uit Drente, mijn (voor)ouders ook niet, dus als-ie
uit Drente afkomstig is, dan is het uit de tijd dat Drente nog een koninkrijk
was :-).
-- 
Ronald van Loon     | Consider this: In the United States, an automobile is
(rvloon@cv.ruu.nl)  | stolen EVERY 14.7 SECONDS. 
3DCV Group, Utrecht |   If that statistic scares you, think how we felt when we 
The Netherlands     | made it up. - Dave Barry, "CHRISTMAS BUYERS GUIDE"
Newsgroups: ont.uucp
From: dennis@zonzorp.Canada.Sun.COM (Dennis Simpson)
Subject: uucp in Barrie
Keywords: barrie uucp news
Reply-To: daddy!dennis@zonzorp.Canada.Sun.COM
Organization: none at all
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:54:00 GMT

So is anyone besides me doing uucp/news to/from Barrie yet?
Does anyone besides me want to?
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Newsgroups: ont.uucp
From: georgn@noweh.com (Georg S. Nikodym)
Subject: Re: I'm outa here for a week
Organization: Noweh Software, Mississauga, CANADA
Distribution: ont
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:52:12 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.075957.23087@druid.uucp> darcy@druid.uucp (D'Arcy J.M. Cain) writes:

   Just to let everyone know that I will be out of town (Montreal) for a week
   so if anything goes wrong with your connection to druid it will have to
   wait till the 28th.

Under normal circumstances, it would be appropriate to say, "Don't do
anything I wouldn't do."  However, I know you won't so have fun.

   Merry Christmas.

Et vous aussi.

-- 
Georg S. Nikodym  -  (416) 272-5198 / 720-4729
Noweh Software - Mississauga, Ontario, CANADA
UUCP:	{comspec.com, lsuc.on.ca, uunet.ca}!noweh!georgn
RFC822:	georgn@noweh.COM
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: ont.general
Subject: Re: Tax evasion!!
Date: 23 Dec 92 04:58:40 GMT
Distribution: can
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Dec22.182304.24996@wes.on.ca> tomh@wes.on.ca (Tom Haapanen) writes:
>tglovie@sail.uwaterloo.ca (Tom G. Lovie) writes:
>> The main reason for incorporating is to separate your own assets from that
>> of the companies assets (corporations assets...).  If there is a chance
>> that your company could be held liable for large sums of money, then
>> whether or not you are making anything, you should be incorporated.  That
>> way, if you are in the position of being sued (for any number of reason,
>> copyright infringement comes to mind...) then your own assets (house,
>> bank account etc... aren't on the line)  

>Do note, though, that while a corporation limits a *SHAREHOLDER's* liabi-
>lity to his/her investment in the company (ie the creditors can not
>repossess a shareholder's personal assets), it does not protect a *DIRECTOR*
>or *OFFICER* of the company.  A corporation's directors and officers (which,
>in the case of a one-person company, are usually the same person as the
>shareholder) can be held legally liable for the company's actions.

>I don't know the exact circumstances under which directors and officers may
>be held liable (please consult your lawyer on this one!), but do remember
>that having a corporation does not give you a license to do whatever you
>want without any risk of personal liability.

If I remember my research correctly, a limited corporation's directors and
officers are not personally responsible for normal business losses or
third party liability (as in lawsuits over accidents etc), EXCEPT where
the law says otherwise.  These exceptions tend to be related to employee
salaries, taxes, corporation law etc.  There are some new exceptions in
environmental legislation too.

For example, if a company doesn't remit UIC or WCB properly for its employees,
the directors can end up footing the bill *directly*, plus pay the fines.

The officers of a bankrupt company in arrears on employee salaries are
routinely held responsible for the shortfall, regardless of investment level.

Violations of the Corporations Act also tend to hit the directors/officers
rather than the company itself.

[I was administrative VP of a non-profit organization, and had to use
this stuff as a stick to get the rest of the officers to clean up their
acts and get the books in order.]
-- 
Chris Lewis; clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca; Phone: Canada 613 832-0541
Psroff 3.0 info: psroff-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
Ferret list: ferret-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
Xref: sparky ont.general:2344 uw.general:443 ut.general:346
From: marc@fozzi.ocunix.on.ca (Marc Donovan)
Newsgroups: ont.general,uw.general,ut.general,.general
Subject: Re: ALLOSTOP INFO WANTED
Date: 1 Jan 93 10:19:17 GMT
Distribution: ont
Organization: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

In article <1992Dec15.193158.11386@julian.uwo.ca> perwaiz@gfx.engga.uwo.ca (Jim Perwaiz) writes:
>Does anyone know how I can get 
>more info about ALLOSTOPS that help
>you get rides.
>
>I want a contact in either TORONTO or LONDON.
>

I know that the Ottawa Tourist information bureau has pamphlets on this
group, so your local tourist info might have something...
(Don't have info handy right now...)

<marc>



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Newsgroups: ont.general,ott.general
From: dragog@bmerh92.bnr.ca (Drago Goricanec)
Subject: Re: Takedown (was re: Regulation 790)
Reply-To: dragog@bnr.ca (Drago Goricanec)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 16:44:32 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.024415.11967@bcrka451.bnr.ca> mdm@bnr.ca (Diane MacMartin) writes:
|> They inquired at their
|> bank (N.S.) if it had been robbed, and it turned out that the
|> KMart Pharmacy was the location held up.
|> 
|> (Why the Pharmacy?  and how did they get out of the store?)

Someone left me a copy of an article from what looks like the Ottawa Sun.
It's copied here without permission:

	    Man nabbed in theft
	    -------------------

		A 37-year-old Ottawa man has been charged in
	    connection with the armed robbery of a drug store.

		A man armed with a gun went into the K-Mart
	    Drug store on Merivale Rd. at 2:45 p.m. yesterday,
	    Sgt. Ralph Erfle said.

		The man demanded the clerk put all the narcotics
	    in a bag and then he fled to a car, Erfle said.

		Store security described the car to police, who
	    later arrested a man on Fisher Ave.  Charged with
	    armed robbery is Ken Henderson of Forward Ave.
--
Drago Goricanec, +1 613 763-8957,   Internet:  dragog@bnr.ca
Communications Systems, Software Development (OSI Protocols)
Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of BNR.
Newsgroups: ont.general
From: oz@ursa.sis.yorku.ca (Ozan Yigit)
Subject: SunOS 3.5 cartridges needed...
Organization: York U. Student Information Systems Project
Distribution: ont
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:01:32 GMT

I have a SUN 3/60 running SunOS 4.0.3 that I would like to downgrade
to SunOS 3.5, but I have been unable to locate a set of cartridges [we
once had them at York] containing the distribution, any help would be
appreciated. [Also any info attaching a CDC Wren IV 94171 [or anything
more modern] to a 3.5 system would be appreciated, we were unable to
do so originally, which is why we had to "upgrade". Sigh]

Please send e-mail. thanks...	oz
---
In seeking the unattainable, simplicity | electric: oz@sis.yorku.ca
only gets in the way. -- Alan J. Perlis | ph:[416] 736 2100 x 33976


Newsgroups: ont.event,ott.event,ont.general,ott.general,can.general,rec.skiing
Newsgroups: ont.events,ut.dcs.general,ut.dcs.seminars
From: veronica@cs.toronto.edu (Veronica Archibald)
Subject: Songnian Zhou, 12 January 1993: COLLOQUIUM
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:30:21 GMT


           Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
         (SF = Sandford Fleming Building, 10 King's College Road)

       -------------------------------------------------------------

                                COLLOQUIUM
                  SF1105, at 11:00 a.m., 12 January 1993

                               Songnian Zhou
                           University of Toronto

    "Resource Sharing in Large-Scale Heterogeneous Distributed Systems"

After over a decade of research and development in distributed computing
systems, such systems are gradually finding their way to organizations that
used to do all computing on mainframes and supercomputers. Although the
performance of RISC-based hardware is superior, software for resource
management and sharing in distributed systems is inadequate for the
applications they support. We discuss some of the research issues involved
in turning a network of computers into an integrated computing system for
multiprogrammed execution of parallel as well as sequential applications.
As an example of the kind of software needed for resource management and
sharing, we discuss Load Sharing Facility (LSF), a software system being
developed at the University of Toronto for load sharing in large,
heterogeneous distributed systems.

Songnian Zhou is an Associate Professor of Computer Science and Electrical
Engineering at the University of Toronto. Over the years, he has been
working closely with industry on research problems in distributed and
parallel computing systems.
Newsgroups: ont.events,ut.dcs.seminars,ut.dcs.ai
From: veronica@cs.toronto.edu (Veronica Archibald)
Subject: Craig Boutilier, 4 January 1993: AI
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:22:01 GMT


           Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
            (LP = D. L. Pratt Building, 6 King's College Road)

       -------------------------------------------------------------

                                    AI
                   LP266, at 10:00 a.m., 4 January 1993

                              Craig Boutilier
      Department of Computer Science, University of British Columbia

                          " What Should You Do? "

The ultimate aim of research in AI is to produce artificial agents that "do
the right thing" in whatever circumstances they happen to find themselves.
One crucial component of doing the right thing is believing the right
things (whether explicitly or implicitly); the second is "acting the right
way" given what you believe.  In this talk I will focus on qualitative
representations of an agent's beliefs and preferences, and the interaction
between the two.

To begin, I will discuss what an agent should believe, especially what
defeasible, or default, conclusions it should reach based on its certain
(for example, perceptual) knowledge. I will argue that conditional logics
provide a natural mechanism for the formal representation of default
beliefs, providing a qualitative analogue of probability theory.

I will then turn my attention to deontic logic, a branch of philosophical
logic that studies the notions of obligation and permission. We adopt the
view that any concept of preference on alternative outcomes can be thought
of as a value system that dictates how an agent ought to act. We simply
think of an agent's designer as specifying the appropriate "moral code" for
the agent. Certain puzzles in deontic logic have naturally lead to their
formalization as conditional logics. Somewhat surprisingly, the system I
will advocate is identical to that I propose for default reasoning.

Finally, I will present some preliminary results on how the two concepts
interact. I will demonstrate that preferences cannot alone dictate the
obligations (actions) of an agent. The belief state of an agent can
radically change its (desired) behavior.  This leads to the notion of a
conditional goal which is quite distinct from the type of goals typically
studied in AI. I will also show that once we take into account the
"abilities" of an agent (for an agent cannot be obligated to do something
it physically cannot!), the methods of deontic logic become under-
constrained. We are lead to various "strategies" for action.  I will show
that an agent can improve its behavior by making observations or increasing
its knowledge of the world. I will suggest the directions in which this
work can be extended, especially how we might investigate planning under
uncertainty within this formal framework.
Newsgroups: ont.events,ut.dcs.seminars,ut.dcs.dbois
From: veronica@cs.toronto.edu (Veronica Archibald)
Subject: Ivor Ladd - V. P. Technology, 14 January 1993: DATABASE
Date: 21 Dec 92 16:43:51 GMT


           Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
         (SF = Sandford Fleming Building, 10 King's College Road)

       -------------------------------------------------------------

                                 DATABASE
                   SF4102, at 2:00 p.m., 14 January 1993

                       Ivor Ladd - V. P. Technology
                           Empress Software Inc.

                " Empress Software Technology Directions "

Empress Software Inc. prides itself on being a commercial supplier of
leading-edge relational database management and fourth-generation language
technology.  With the release of version 6, Empress provides fully
distributed capabilitites among Empress RDBMSs across a heterogeneous Unix
network.  Thus, any application operating on multiple databases on a single
machine can operate without modification on the same databases spread out
across a network of say Suns, HPs, SGIs and Crays.  This applies to
updates, joins, transactions, etc.

As part of its effort to maintain a bridge between the advanced ideas
generated by academic research and the demands of the practical user,
Empress will present its future technology directions for the next several
years.  These directions include security, internationalization,
networking, multi-media, and object-oriented extensions.  Discussion will
centre around the realities of bringing these techonologies to the
marketplace and some of the additional research that this entails.  Means
of cooperation between the academic and commercial communities will also be
explored.

Newsgroups: ont.test
From: david@sequent.com (David Haynes)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems (Canada) Ltd.
Distribution: ont
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:19:40 GMT

In <1992Dec21.184024.22628@choreo.ca> news@choreo.ca (Choreo NetNews Administration Account(Ottawa)) writes:

>test

followup test with new nntp server to see if it barfs...
--
			      David Haynes		
			Sequent Professional Services
			    david@sequent.com
		"I don't remember asking for *any* of this!"
Newsgroups: bnr.test,ont.test
From: lewis@bnrmtl.bnr.ca (Pierre LEWis)
Subject: Weekly test of outgoing news path (ignore)
Reply-To: lew@bnr.ca (Pierre LEWis)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Montreal, Canada
Distribution: can
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 06:01:04 GMT

Quote of the week:

  What we need to foster is a desire to *improve* our skills, not just adopt
  new ones.  [Tom, talking about OO -- right on the nail]

This is *only* a test, *please* ignore :-)!
-- 
Pierre LEWIS    +1 514 765-8207      ESN 852-8207
Internet: lew@bnr.ca                 Corwan: lewis@bnrmtl

Implementing standards is like walking on water -- both work best when frozen.
Newsgroups: bnr.test,ont.test
From: lewis@bnrmtl.bnr.ca (Pierre LEWis)
Subject: Weekly test of outgoing news path (ignore)
Reply-To: lew@bnr.ca (Pierre LEWis)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Montreal, Canada
Distribution: can
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 06:01:05 GMT

Quote of the week:

  What we need to foster is a desire to *improve* our skills, not just adopt
  new ones.  [Tom, talking about OO -- right on the nail]

This is *only* a test, *please* ignore :-)!
-- 
Pierre LEWIS    +1 514 765-8207      ESN 852-8207
Internet: lew@bnr.ca                 Corwan: lewis@bnrmtl

Implementing standards is like walking on water -- both work best when frozen.
Newsgroups: ont.test
From: news@choreo.ca (Choreo NetNews Administration Account(Ottawa))
Subject: test
Organization: Choreo Systems, Ottawa Canada
Distribution: ont
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:40:24 GMT

test
Newsgroups: ont.test
From: thomas@ramsey.cs.laurentian.ca (Thomas F.)
Subject: ha ha
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Laurentian University, Sudbury, ON
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 03:20:48 GMT

please ignore me
From: msage@flemol.UUCP (msage)
Newsgroups: ont.test
Subject: test
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 15:38:07 est
Organization: Fleming ON-LINE <Fleming College BBS Peterborough ON CA>

test
Newsgroups: ont.test
From: santa@northpole.org
Subject: Rudolf's nose is dimming
Originator: santa@northpole.org
Organization: Child Care
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 03:11:03 GMT

Attention all Christmas lovers and fans of joly 'ol Saint Nic!!!!

We have a crisis on our hands.  Rudolf's nose is slowly dimming!
We require more hope in the world to light it back up!  Do what
you can to assist.  Give money to the homeless, be nice to your
mother, give an ex-girlfriend a kiss, whatever your heart will
allow.

Please people, open up your hearts!!!
We depend on the kindness of others.

                                HO HO HO
                                SANTA
Newsgroups: ont.jobs
From: gao@eecg.toronto.edu (Xiangyang Gao)
Subject: An Industrial Research Position for a Ph.D.
Date: 31 Dec 92 15:52:58 GMT


Dear Netters,

GRC Ltd. conducts research and provides consulting services in digital
signal processing. The company is looking for an engineer who recently
received or will soon receive his or her Ph.D. degree to carry out a
research project in digital audio: digital equalization of acoustics 
and active noise cancellation. This two-year position is expected to be 
jointly financed by the company and the Federal Government. The position
is renewable.

The candidate is expected to have done a significant amount of research
on digital signal processing.

Although we plan to have the candidate to work in one of the above-mentioned
two projects, he or she may propose a project which he or she
thinks has a great market (not academic) value. We are open-minded. 

Send you resume, plus supporting materials, such as publications, index
of your Ph.D. thesis to 

Manager
GRC Ltd.
85 Dundalk Drive
Scarborough, Ontario M1P 4V1

or you can send an email to

gao@eecg.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: ont.jobs