From: tgs@jjmhome.UUCP (Thomas G. Seidenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Ban Certain Bands from this Pub...
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:13:21 GMT
Organization: Jims Place

In article <13NOV199210191892@rosie.uh.edu> math1rb@rosie.uh.edu (92F07486) writes:
>Over the past few days there have been debates on the validity of listening
>to "real" world (secular) music vs. christian music. Some have said
>there should be quotas or ratios to how much christian music we must
>listen to compared to secular music. Well quotas and ratios are silly,
>that's like saying a little swearing, or using the Lord's Name in vain is
>o.k., or that a little pornography is o.k.. Like someone said on here
>to be truly christian one must immerse themselves in christianity, so
>therefore we should all choose to avoid secular music all together.
I raed this as sarcasm... I hope and pray that it is!!!!
>  In that case I propose the banning of the following bands on here (after
>all you'll never hear them on the local christian stations).
>Below is a list with some chrages brought against them....note that these
>bands "confess" to not playing "christian music".

    YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You really think that people are not going to talk about "not-mostly-God"
music on this group???  Hey, Why don't we create a new group
rec.music.not.quite.christian ?????  C'mon!!!!  Have you listened to the NEW
Extreme album ???  HAVE YOU???  Obviously not, because had you, without all
the petty 'ROCK' prejudices the people on this group have, you would have
found that it is MORE CHRISTIAN THE AMY GRANT'S "HEART IN MOTION"!!!!
I have listened to BOTH and am A BIG FAN OF AMY, so don't bother to flame
me for this!!!  It makes me so entirely sick that people can think ROCK
music is bad, is indulgent, and is evil!!!  LISTEN TO COUNTRY SOMETIME!!!!

>
>      2) Extreme - well for one thing the sure do swear alot; the musical
>		style is definately self indulgent (guitar-wise); definately
>		rebellious lyrics (which was concluded on here as being bad);
>		lyrics about sex; being president; dancing; sex; politics; sex;
>			etc...

HEY, SEE ABOVE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>
>
>I guess I've been wrong the whole time, and probably because as many believe,
>I'm not "Christian" I'm Catholic. So lets go all the way and make this board
                      ^^^^^^^^^^  Yah, me too - but I'm a Christian 1st!
>purely "Christian" music.
>David C. Meyers

I HOPE AND PRAY THAT THIS WAS A SARCASTIC POST!!!!!!!!
WHAT IS THIS, A DICTATORSHIP???????

(David, If this was a sarcastic post, please don't take my comments as
against you, I am posting to voice my opposition to the IDEA!!)

Listen Guys and Gals, We are not getting any closer to our heavenly goal
by bashing another's talent and work, nor by bashing one another (I know -
I'm guilty too.)

I told this story before on this same subject, and I guess I'm gonna have to
tell it again...
   I am a trained (Peer) Youth Minister in the Diocese of Worcester, MA.
I have been on "Team" for more retreats than I can count and have directed
4 or 5.  I have seen and experienced the power, the passion, the HEALING
POWER that ALL, ABSOLUTELY EVERY KIND OF MUSIC, can have in the lives of
young people!!!  You fail to understand, you do not even TRY to understand
the psychological and emmotional impact of this music on your young people,
on YOUR OWN CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  How can you be so ignorant!!!!  You
WILL NOT solve the "music problem" by degrading something that means so
much to so many other people!!  My Faith has been STRENGTHENED MORE by
quote-un-quote "secular" music than by all the Christian music I have
listened to - AND THAT IS ALOT!!!  Flame me, fry me, even pray for my
"misguided" ways... I am not bothered!  I know the issues.  I understand
the younger adolescent and older adolescent!  I have studied the goals,
the needs, the psychology, the emotional developement, the physical
developement of these people!!!  GIVE THEIR MUSIC A CHANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
STOP BEING SO CLOSE MINDED!!!!!  STOP INSINUATING THAT OTHERS ON THIS
GROUP HAVE NOT "COME OF AGE" IN THEIR CHRISTIANITY BECAUSE THEY LISTEN TO
ARTISTS WHO ARE NOT OVERTLY CHRISTIAN!!!  FOR ONCE BE A PEACEMAKER AND NOT
A BELIGERANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AAAAHHHHHHH, I feel much better now!   :)

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