From: robertg@algol.cs.umbc.edu (Robert Gottlieb)
Subject: Re: Anti-Orthodoxy (was Re: O-C-R debate)
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Computer Science Department
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:24:10 GMT

In article <LERNER.92Jul26182033@division.cs.columbia.edu> lerner@cs.columbia.edu (Michah Lerner) writes:
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>>>>	As far as I'm concerned, the Torah was written by many different
>>>>	people giving many different accounts of history.  If they
>>>>	actually saw us taking it leterally I think they'd be laughing
>>>>	at us.  But this is my opinion, I will not say that it is the
>>>>	only reasoning.  I just can't see how anyone can say the Torah
>>>>	is an accurate document.  There are parts where clearly Moses
>>>>	could not have gone up Mount Sinai and come back down and 
>>>>	gone back up, and gone back up (wait, how'd he get back up if
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>	Reader beware: The above unsupported contention is the product of
>	misunderstanding; while the idea of  the  Torah as an  historical
>	document (G-d  forbid!)  is not new, the recent emphasis of  this
>	is simply  an attemtp To even suggest  the Torah is (G-d  forbid)
>	man-made makes a  mockery of any religous sensiblity This is  not
>	soc.culture.atheism,  but  if you claim that the  Torah  is  (G-d
>	forbid) man-made then you simply made up your interpretation.
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>--
>/M


	Uh, no.  I do believe in God, and I do believe that he/she/it
	had something to do with the Torah.  I don't, however, believe
	that he/she/it wrote it directly, nor had others write it. 
	I believe that people at the time wrote the Torah based on
	what was happening.  Many of the events back in those days
	happened to deal with God and things that God did, as well as
	how the tribes handled different circumstances.  So no, I'm
	not an atheist, though it may be easier for you to handle
	me that way, simply nodding me off as some atheist person
	who knows nothing at all about religion.  I am Jewish, and I
	do believe in Judaism and I cannot understand what is wrong
	with me interpreting the Torah how I feel, provided I don't
	start saying stuff like Murder is good, etc.  But the again
	this is internet (and the U.S. as well), thus I'm allowed
	to speak my mind and so are you.  

	Funny thing, you make it sound as though I"m wrong for making
	up my own interpretation.  You also make it sound as though
	I've never discussed my views with others, such as my parents
	or my rabbi.  Also, if it wasn't stated clearly enough in the
	previous post.  This is MY opinion.  I own it, I'm prowd of
	it and I will NEVER force it on others.  I'm merely stating
	how I feel.  Isn't that what this forum is for?

	Anyway, lest anyone think the above is me arguing or getting
	mad, it is not.  I'm a very calm person.  I just am trying
	to understand other opinions and why people attack others
	with my opinion.  To close this, I simply want to send
	out Peace and Love to all, as that is what I feel we need
	to spread around more than anything right now.  The world
	isn't lose enough anymore.

	
	Robert Gottlieb 
	gottlieb@umbc4.umbc.edu or robertg@cs.umbc.edu
	"Not gonna do it.. wouldn't be prudent..."
	Not umbc's opinion.  
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