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From: Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen)
Subject: Montreal 1898
Organization: Historic Brossard
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:44:32 GMT

My father has a marvellous map of Montreal, circa 1898. Downtown Montreal
has the same basic street structure as it does today, but outlying areas
such as Verdun were still partly farms. The streets were laid out on a
rectangular grid, with almost none of the twisting and turning that we
associate with post-1945 suburbs -- with one exception.
 
The one place on the island of Montreal that had Brossard-like curving
roads was the cemetary area on Mount Royal.
 
I am not sure what parallels one can draw between present-day Brossard and
the Notre-Dame-des-Neiges and Mount Royal cemetaries of 189 or of today, but
the cemetaries are probably livelier.

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:5386 can.general:3640
From: stevew@teleride.on.ca (Stephen M. Webb)
Subject: Re: $53.75 (was: TTC POP fines (was Railway police in Canada (was NYC's Transit Police)))
Organization: Teleride Sage Ltd.
Distribution: ont
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 22:47:34 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.185741.12064@sq.sq.com> msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
>> This raises a question I've always wondered about:  Why $53.75?  Why not
>> an even $50 (or $55, or $60)?  If it were $53.50, I'd suspect they were
>> charging $50+GST (1/2:-), but $53.75 is just plain weird.  Is it possibly
>> an inflation-indexed value from some past year's base amount?  Anyone know?
>
>Once upon a time some years back, the province decided that in view of
>inflation it would be a good idea to raise all fines by 6.5%, this
>presumably being that year's inflation rate.  But apparently they did
>it by means of a one-time act rather than an automatic indexing provision
>such as is used for income tax.  I've never understood why.

I understood the bizarre amounts for fines to be a result of the addition
of court costs (sorta the civilized way of charging the victim for the bullets
used to kill him with).

Thus, $53.75 is a $48.00 fine and a $5.75 court cost.  The court cost is the
same regardless of the size of the fine.

-- 
------- Stephen M. Webb -------

Ack!  I've accidentally broken my leg!  -- Ed the Happy Clown

Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: kathy@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu
Subject: Bike Paths
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University Computing Services, Norman, OK
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:38:00 GMT

When can we get off the subject of bike paths?  Those of us who live in 
Oklahoma (yes there are a few Canadians here), do not have ANY bike paths
to gripe about.  I wish I had to worry about pedestrians instead of pickup
truck drivers!!

............................................................................
Kathy Greenwood                 
Math Major (believe it or not!)
University of Oklahoma            

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From: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca (DEB CHATTERJEE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.misc
Subject: E-mail addresses for any site in the Philippines (Manila).
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:46:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


 Hello Netters:

  I am just posting this for a friend of mine. His query is regarding the
e-mail address(es) of any site in the Philippines (Manila). He would also
remain grateful for any site addresses - not necessarily the above. Could
any kind soul send me the complete e-mail address for any site at the 
                          ---------
e-mail address given below ?

- any help would be gratefully appreciated,

   deb chatterjee
   e-mail: debchat@vax2.concordia.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.misc
From: u9030062@golum.riv.csu.edu.au (Ronald Ku)
Subject: Informations about Singapore
Originator: u9030062@golum.riv.csu.edu.au
Organization: Charles Sturt University - Riverina, Wagga Wagga, NSW, Australia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:48:40 GMT

Dear Netter,

	I have no idea of where should I post this new. I believe it
belongs to this newsgroup. If not, then I am sorry about the time and
money you wasted!

	Could anyone out there provide some information about the living
standard of Singapore, the taxation system, and the social welfare
together with the job opportunity in there?

	Any information would be appreciated!

	Thanks in advance.
 
-- 
*  Ronald Ku                             *  UNIX will use next,       *
*  u9030062@golum.riv.csu.edu.au  OR     *  UNIX is YOUr next,        *
*  u9030062@zac.riv.csu.edu.au           *  So I use UNIX!            *
*  Charles Sturt University              *  And I survive for UNIX!!! *
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: 99siraj@cuavax.dnet.cua.edu
Subject: test
Organization: The Catholic University of America
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:11:30 GMT

test

Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: kalam@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Kalam Ahmed)
Subject: Guyana Elections
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:42:26 GMT



are there any guyanese out there on soc.culture.carib. that can shed some light
on the elections over there?. when is this elections due?. are all the indo-
guyanese finally registered to vote in this election?. thks in advance for any
info.
From: Brian.Vaughan@um.cc.umich.edu (Brian Vaughan)
Subject: Caribanna
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 17:29:12 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan

So...... nobody goin' to Toronto dis weekend or what?

Spanky!!!! Wha bout alyuh East Coast people?!?!
I go be dey Friday night in de Tringo fete.

      - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
      He who Joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already
      earned  my  contempt.   He  has been  given a  large brain by
      mistake, since for him the  spinal cord would  fully suffice.
                       -- Albert Einstein --
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      Brian Vaughan                   brian_vaughan@um.cc.umich.edu

Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.african,soc.culture.african.american
From: richard@auvax1.adelphi.edu
Subject: Hey! Newsgroup Census
Organization: Adelphi University, Garden City NY
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 02:45:19 GMT

I was wondering just how many people use this newsgroup, and I came up with
the idea of posting a request for users to post (under the heading "User
Ident") information about themselves so that a census could be taken, saved,
and regularly reposted.  So here it is.  This will be effective beginning 20th
July.  Do what you must. Peace. 



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Richard L. Dennison               -\--/-  Internet: richard@auvax1.adelphi.edu
President, Caribbean Club        |  \/  | Fone:(516)352-1926 Fax:(516)877-3296
Chairman, Afrikan Concerns Assn  |  /\  | Caribbean Cultural Awareness Club
Editor In Cheif, AFRIKA UNBOUND!  -/--\-  Adelphi U., Garden City, N.Y. 11530
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From: Bob Thomson <caribdesk@igc.org>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Date: 25 Jul 92 07:02 PDT
Subject: Re: Hey! Newsgroup Census
Nf-ID: #R:1992Jul21.214519.1@auvax1.adelph:-1233234012:cdp:1472300017:000:270
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!caribdesk    Jul 25 07:02:00 1992


I use this conference/news group to gather material for the PeaceNet
Caribbean news conference.

Unfortunately, (for my purpose at any rate) there is more chat than news 
here. I do find enough however to warrant keeping it on my regular
list of conferences to monitor.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean,soc.culture.african,soc.culture.african.american
From: fred@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Fred Wellington)
Subject: Jamaica's 30th birthday
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:38:39 GMT


Jamaica's 30th independence will be celebrated here in Chicago on Monday
August 3rd with a gala affair at Daley Plaza Civic Center downtown Chicago.

There will be Reggae Music, Steel band, ethnic dancers and Jamaican food.

This event is sponsered by Chicago Concerned Jamaica (CCJ), Jamaican
American Organization, American West Indian Association, The Jamaica
Tourist Board and The Jamaica Honorary Consul located here in Chicago.

Time is 11 am and all are invited.

Fred


Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: kalam@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Kalam Ahmed)
Subject: guyana elections
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Services
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:50:56 GMT


Can any guyanese out there shed some light as to when is the elections?.
is the voters list ready and are all the indo-guyanese registered?.
28 yrs is a long time to be waiting for a change, anyone out there feels
the same?.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: ewalker@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Evelyn Walker)
Subject: Carabana Events
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:44:45 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: rayman@lookout.uswest.com (Raymond Goure)
Subject: Travelling to Tortola...
Organization: US WEST Communications
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:45:31 GMT


Hi,

I'm leaving for Tortola on the morning of 8/9/92 and willbe spending 
a very short week on the island. I was hoping to gather a few ideas for 
To-Do's and do-nots will on holiday. I would appriciate any responses 
to the above e-mail addr. Not to worry readers... I have plenty of ideas
of what I want to do, I just don't to miss anything

thanks
rayman
From: simon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Patrice A. Simon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Re: toronto festival weekend
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:31:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB


	What's the schedule for this year's Caribana. I heard they expanded 
things after last year. Anyone know of good clubs, fetes, parties etc. 
going on this Friday to Monday? Adresses too, please!

Missing Antigua's Carnival again,
-- 
Patrice Simon
simon@acsu.cc.buffalo.edu			v5097ucd@ubvms.buffalo.edu
opnsimon@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: ewalker@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Evelyn Walker)
Subject: toronto festival weekend
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:30:29 GMT

To all fellow West Indians going to Toronto this weekend for the Carabana
festivals.  Please behave yourselves, no overdoing have a good time fettin,
you know how we like our fetes and old oak and pelau.
  Drive safely remember no booze on de road. 
See you all in Toronto.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: gourdol@imag.fr (Arno Gourdol)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Getting a green card after a J-1 visa
Date: 26 Jul 92 21:26:12 GMT
Organization: University of Grenoble
X-Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 23:26:42 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d3

Hi,

I'm trying to understand the maze of INS regulations.
Does any of you know if it is possible to get a green card after
having benefited a J-1 (exchange student) visa. I've been told there is
a two year waiting period before applying for a work visa. Is this 
right? Is there any way to avoid this waiting period?

Arno.

--
Arno Gourdol.  <Gourdol@imag.fr>
Minds, like parachutes, only function when open.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
Subject: Re: Q about Tipper Gore's name?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Dept. of Independence
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:04:00 GMT

In article <l6m6vdINNjb@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu>, sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder) writes...
>Her real name is Mary Aitcheson. Her nickname was given to her by


I read the story about the childhood song (mentioned in another
followup) in the Sunday NY Times. The reason I was wondering about
Mary "Tipper" Gore is that I have an aunt, also named Mary, who
has always been known as "Tippy."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: lieser@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Ed Lieser)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: From a foreign student on Clinton
Date: 20 Jul 92 17:43:56 EST
Organization: Test PLease ignore

In article <1992Jul18.184556.24959@menudo.uh.edu>, mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh) writes:

> Gore summed it up well, when he said:
> 
> "This election is not about Repulblicans and Democrats, this election is not
> even about winning; though we will win it; this election is about change."

But we Americans hear these same words every 4 years: change, new vision, new
ideas, blah blah blah....  For some odd reason, I tend to not believe this
kind of talk very much.  :-)

Cynically enough, I think that what most people really want is a leader
who makes them feel good, and appears somewhat benevolent to the rest of
the world.  Does Bush have these qualities?  No.  Does Clinton?  I seriously
doubt it.  My second recourse would probably be to vote for whoever would
keep their hands out of my wallet with the most success -- I have never felt
so heavily taxed on every front in my entire life.  Between sales taxes,
sin taxes, income taxes, etc etc etc I wouldn't be surprised if half the
money I earn goes to government.  I'd sit down and try to figure it out,
but I'm afraid of what I'd find.  (It'd be impossible, too, since when a
corporation is heavily taxed, they just increase their prices, effectively
passing the tax on to the consumer.)

>Arindam

Ed
From: @@efi.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: [friends] knowing other ages
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:44:53 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.hongkong


     If one does not know other age groups, I wonder how we can survive.
We have to listen to advice from seniors (at least five years above),
how to do things, and what socially they expect from us young people,
roles according to occupation, residential, and sex.  And we have to
advice (and even learn from) youngsters (at least five years below)
what to do, and tell them a good way.  Think about this: If we teach
in a school, and even teach our future children (our respective own
children, not just children in general), what should we do?

					a reader, U.S.A.
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Olympics
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:40:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

In article <1992Jul28.065005.29440@morrow.stanford.edu> silva@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Holly Silva) writes:
>
>	Is there anyone else who finds NBC's coverage of the Olympics
>to be generally vile, over-focussed on the gold and demeaning to the
>athletes?  The network promotes an ugly, whining jingoism and a Geraldo
>-outlook on the event that should make it the butt of both jokes and
>criticism, but no one seems to notice.

Actually, I don't think it's as bad as it has been in the past.  For
one thing, I think they're showing a lot more action than CBS did
with the Winter Olympics.  For another, it's true that they are
focussing on US athletes, but what did you expect?  In every country
the media concentrates on their own.  It's only natural.  At least
half of the athlete profiles I've seen so far have been on foreigners.
Listen, if you want to know what real America-first coverage was like,
remember the 1984 games in Los Angeles?  ABC was MUCH worse than 
NBC is now, in this respect.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: ctsang@bmdhh315.bnr.ca
Subject: Places to visit in SF
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:09:53 GMT

Hello, I am planning to visit SF this September. I particularly
like coffee shops and bars. Any good suggestions for me to visit ?

I would also like to walk around in the town. Any places I should
go and any places I should avoid ?

Thanks.

Charmond
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: gledbet@heartland.bradley.edu (Gene Ledbetter)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Inflation, unemployment, & von Mieses
Date: 21 Jul 1992 23:36:04 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Reply-To: gledbet@heartland.bradley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



The current economic difficulties and election campaigns 
remind me of the protracted inflation that helped defeat the 
Carter administration and bring Ronald Reagan and George 
Bush into power.  At the time, the economic ideas of Ludwig 
von Mieses, the father of the Austrian school of economics, 
were popular among conservative, non-Keynesian economists, 
and these ideas seemed to be the basis for the marked 
lowering of the inflation rate that occurred in Reagan's 
first year.

I note that one of our readers, Guido Schaefer, is a student 
at the Wirtschaftsuniversitaet in Vienna.  If he (or anyone 
else) is familiar with Mieses' ideas, I would be interested 
in their thoughts on them.

The rate of inflation was high during the Ford and Carter 
administrations, at least partly (I believe) because of the 
cost of the war in Viet-Nam and the fact that Nixon had 
eliminated the convertibility of the dollar into gold and 
had let the dollar float.  (Shortly thereafter, the dollar 
was devalued twice.)  The rate of inflation eventually 
reached the upper teens, and people began to fear a 
catastrophic runaway inflation.  (Ford started a Whip 
Inflation Now campaign, complete with "WIN" campaign 
buttons!)  The government blamed everyone but the 
government, and it tried to freeze prices.

During the inflation, some of the followers of von Mieses 
here and in the U.K. began to write that government was the 
culprit.  They said that inflation was nothing more or less 
than an increase in the money supply and that in the U.S. 
the Federal Reserve was responsible.  The Fed increases the 
money supply by first selling government securities to 
investors and later buying the securities back with money it 
creates out of thin air.  (This is more sophisticated than 
simply printing extra greenbacks and spending them.)

When Reagan came into office, his administration (well, Paul 
Volker in the Fed) tightened up the money supply.  Inflation 
went down, and at the same time unemployment went up during 
an economic recession.

Now we're in a severe recession, or maybe a depression.  
Will the government "save the day" by expanding the money 
supply drastically?  And if so, will we have a renewed high 
rate of inflation?

--
And when all was peace and order   Much I wept because my warder
Save one planet nailed askew,      Would not let me set it true.
From: lieser@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (Ed Lieser)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Something Wicked This Way Comes
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:52:52 GMT
Organization: Test PLease ignore

In article <92207.095015ISSCCK@BYUVM.BITNET>, <ISSCCK@BYUVM.BITNET> writes:
> 
> So. The Reagan/Bush administrations "have spent several trillion dollars
> on social programs."  With *that* kind of money, I wonder why we haven't
> reached Utopia yet?  
> [...] 
> DISCLAIMER (lest someone suspect): I'm NOT for cheap hand-outs. That's
> why I'm very unhappy with the current welfare system, where recipients
> are even penalized for picking up a job, thus encouraging dependancy
> rather than to create self-reliance. I'm talking about creating *equal
> opportunities* and working towards a consensus where a majority of
> people are willing to support legislation like universal health-care,
> say similar to the Canadian or German system.

After the LA riots both the Democrats and Republicans admitted that the
welfare system was not working, and in fact kept many in poverty.  My
question would be: Can I trust the people in Washington to figure out a
better way?  It seems that most government programs turn into stupid
bureaucratic nightmares, so what would happen with a universal health
care system?  I wonder, because while I'm not hurting terribly, I do
notice that more and more of my paycheck goes to the government, whether
local/state/federal.  And I think that simply spending more money on
some program or other does not necessarily help, or make things better.
I would not complain about helping to fund an efficiently run welfare or
health-care system, one that we could look at 20 years down the road and
not say, "This is not the way to do things."

Actually, though, when you think about it, those who are teenagers right
now will look back to this period of time and say, "Those were the good
old days."  Can you believe it?  :-)

Ed
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Monday, 20 Jul 1992 12:30:12 WUT
From: <8925129@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: After Perot


Ross Perot has left the race for the presidental election- how has this changed
the chances of the two remaining candidates?

As I am European, I can judge      only from distance; but from the media it
seems to me that people felt attracted by Perot for two reasons: he appealed
to conservative emotions and he embodied protest.
Now I suppose that people with conservative feelings would tend to vote for
Bush, but people wishing change would tend to vote for Clinton. What is
gaining now more momentum in the USA?
Timing might also play an important role. Now that Perot has given up,
Clinton's popularity seems to be at an all-time high; so will the Perot-voters
swith over to him?

Or is the whole analysis not adequate?

I would be very interested in opinions from Americans|||


Guido Schaefer
Student at
Vienna University of Economics and Business Administration
Austria/Europe
From: harrity@sumax.seattleu.edu (Elan Morin Tedronai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Nightmare: A Nuclear War......
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:32:46 GMT
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <18172.2a77cc01@ecs.umass.edu> vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu writes:
>
>...how many Americans went to bed with that fear before the collapse of
>
>
>Vicky:

Oh my GOD.  When did Visky collapse? :)
 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.usa
From: garrett@Ingres.COM (WHAT'S A MATTER YOU?)
Subject: Oxymoron
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: 
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Distribution: usa
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:47:10 GMT

	I always thought that AMERICAN CULTURE was an oxymoron.
Or maybe we're talking about that Murphy Brown thing?


Garrett@Ingres.com