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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:22:04 -0600
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: dosup6.zip, winup7.zip and 311ptb.zip... found !

>
>>Is there REALLY a dosup6?  I find dosup5 and winup6, but I've never seen
>>a dosup6.  Jan, could you verify that the file you're describing is really
>>named dosup6?
>
>>Thanks.
>>Philip H. Kachelmyer
>
>   OK folks.  It is confusing but here is the scoop.  Their is a DOSUP6.ZIP
>   and a WINUP7.ZIP and a 311PTB.ZIP that were all uploaded very recently
>   to the NOVELL.COM.
>
>   They are not in the standard \NETWIRE\NOVLIB\01 directory as you would
>   expect.
>
>   They are in \NETWIRE\NOVLIB\NOVFILES.
>
>   Since the FTP server is a mirror of CompuServe, and that excessive
>   CIS traffic caused the temporary creation of a new library forum...
>   you guess it NOVFILES,  the Novell folks decided to carry this over
>   to their FTP server as well.
>
>   Unfortunately, no one made much of an effort to tell folks about them.
>
>   PS... If you are going to NetWorld, I have downloaded each of these fiies
>   and you can pick them up in the NUI booth 620.
>
>   PS... Just to confuse everyone.  There is a \NETWIRE\NOVFILES directory
>   on NOVELL.COM that must have been a mistake.  There is nothing
>   there.  Make believe it does not exist.
>
>   Enjoy.
>
>     Glenn Fund                           Internet:   Fund@Relay.proteon.com
>     Principal Research Specialist        CompuServe: 75170,1060
>     Lockheed Sanders                     cc:Mail     Fund at Proteonwebo
>     DW Highway South                     Phone:      (603) 885-6242
>     MS NHQ4-0405                         President of The Greater Boston Area
>     Nashua, NH  03061                    Novell Users Group.
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Glenn,
        Just so folks understand the situation. "Novell.com" is a Unix box
acting as Novell's experimental Gopher server (and domain name server in the
game of name-for-a-day), not as it's anon ftp server. The directory stuff on
novell.com is a little jumbled, shall we say, and I for one trust it not at
all. The official source is ftp.is.sandy.novell.com, a NW 3.11 server.
        Now it is an observed fact that "sandy" has up to 311pt9.zip but
no later, and yet novell.com does have 311ptb.zip (counting 8,9,a,b...).
Compuserve has had 311ptb.zip for some time, and makes it highly visible too.
One does wonder why this difference has persisted, and were I in Boston I'd
surely ask a few Novell people.
        Novlib\novfiles has existed on my mirror for a couple of months so
that's not a particularly new subdirectory in the archive. That's where all
the security update material lived until just recently.
        To the general reader population not in Boston (two, maybe three of
us?): I have 311ptb.zip material installed on my NW 3.11 server, with the
now vanished security files, and with DOS+NFS namespaces going, and it is
happy so far. Novell has warned that there are gotcha's in CLIB.NLM in the
security suite and that's presumably why the whole thing has gone away til
about the end of the month. So I feel ok so far about running 311ptb patches
(since they clearly avoided crash problems I had at the 311pt9 level when
pburst/security was activated). Given that, go grab that patch material and
use at your own risk and discression.
        Glenn: I hope you can help bring a little stability to all of this
when/if you escape from booth duty. And thanks for pointing out this to
people.
        Joe D.
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