HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Petr Cespiva <petr@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: boo
X-To: JITTLOV@GUMBY.SC.CALTECH.
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:55:00 GMT

Mike Jittlov <jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu> writes:

  MJ> DH>Nice pumpkin, but where are the quotes? <g>
    > 
    > This be a jest, correct?
    > 
    > Cause you wouldn't BELIEVE how many attempts it took,
    > to post that thing!  Crash-freeze-BeepRiot-Crash-etc...
    > 
    > Really wondered if the government wasn't playing censor.
    > Riding the UseNet, and corraling strayed thoughts, and
    > keeping out anything that might spook the status quo.
    > Diety knows They've used taxes for less trivial pursuits.
    > 
    > -mjj

Well, fear not. Your posting might have been intercepted at some
point in its travels, but at least some of the paths it took
were uninterrupted. I got it just yesterday (I guess it is a
long way to Toronto) but it was complete (as far as I could
tell) and I and some of my friends thank you for an entertaining
view of foreign politics (at least some of the practitioners
thereof). Alas, some of the references were somewhat unknown to
us in the Great White North, but overall the majority of the
quotes were self explanatory <grin>, at least to those with
5 cents worth of intelligence...

     - Petr

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From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: WIZARD in the UK?
Date: 13 Nov 92 14:03:36 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: gumby.cs.caltech.edu

shepa@sersun1 (Shepherd A J) writes:

>Mike,
>Have you ever done anything in the UK? If not, why not? Has any
>UK convention ever approached you to be a guest of honour and what
>would it taketo get you to come.

I have appeared at only one convention in the UK.  It was the
UFP Con 91 - the 31st British Star Trek Convention, held on
May 3-6, 1991, in Birmingham.

Kim Farey, Ros Liddle, Dave, Alan, and Simone treated me and my
girlfriend Robyn as if we were visiting royalty.  We had a _wonderful_
time.  I have yet to properly write and thank them.  As usual, the
most important letters take the longest to compose, and send.

>(I know a few people organising a convention for 1994 who are looking for a
>guest and could be interested...)

Great - I'm interested too!  I'd love to revisit England - there are
some fascinating sites out in Cornwall.  I lucked out, last time,
and managed to hitch several rides with people who knew where the
Man-an-Tol was.  Then there's the fake Stone Henge in Masham (built
in 1820, and it glows in the dark).  And Scotland.  And Wales.  And
Ireland...   And the Convention!

>Saw you at INTERCON 91 and your talk was one of the things which made the 
>trip to Norway worthwhile.

What about Larry Niven?  And Mary Gentle's swordfighting demo?
And the banquet?  And Oslo?  Hope you made it to both Vigeland Museums!

--mike (!)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Wizard.ps problems?
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:32:55 GMT

My NeXT complains about the wizard.ps file.  It can display it,
but says that it's missing page information, which prevents
me from faxing it and other neat things.  Anyone have a cleaner
version?

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov,soc.culture.nordic
From: jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun)
Subject: Re: Vanishing Wizard
Reply-To: jafitv@termo.unit.no (Jan Arne Fagertun)
Organization: SINTEF, Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 13:58:01 GMT

In article <OTTO.92Nov9073637@bedivere.jyu.fi>, otto@bedivere.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:
|> 
|> Um, maybe, if we're really lucky, it'll make lutefisk totally obsolete.
|> (In case you don't know what lutefisk is, you're lucky)
|> -- 


There we are again - another finn/finlender starting a campaign against
some other nordic country :-)


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From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: Philip Michael Thomas article in Sunshine magazine (FL)
Date: 5 Nov 1992 11:21:48 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: gumby.cs.caltech.edu

kbeal@rcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com (Ken Beal) writes:

>	Just read an article that upset me.  I recently read the HUGE files

"HUGE files"?  The presskit is but a grain of sand, on the mountainous
dune of my Wizard File (every date, datum, letter, phonecall, article,
showing, illegal activity, etc x etc).  Not to mention the other scripts
and stories, thundering in stasis in my Amiga and these boxes of micronotes.
Not to mention my brain, still holding all of this, plus every frame and
sound and alternative and repair potential of WIZARD... Gotta download
this someday, it's approaching critical creativity.

>that Mike posted, with the cast.  I remember reading that PMT used WoSaT as
>a sort of springboard (Miami Vice producers saw him in it and wanted him,
>or something like that).

>	Well, the October 18 issue (yes, I read slowly :) of Sunshine
>magazine, which came in the Sun-Sentinel, had a cover story, 3 pages

Would someone send me a good xerox of this article?  (Practically every
WIZARD review and article has come to me through friends and fans.  None
of the excellent two dozen newspaper reviews was ever furnished by our
alleged "distributor", SGE.)

>long, on him.  Said lots about him, little about his private life (he
>says you can find it in his songs), and mentions his beginnings, such as
>_Hair_ (1968) and _No Place to Be Somebody_ (1971).  1979, he did a TV
>movie, _Death Drug_.  Then it jumps right into 1984, with _Miami Vice_.

>	I am disappointed.


Could have been the magazine editor.  Or maybe Philip forgot.  Though I
kind of doubt the latter - he's a very generous, gracious guy.  (And he
was genuinely appreciative when I sent him video copies of our feature,
and saw that I'd edited out a line that my e.b.p. loved.)

Some years ago, Philip was on The Larry King Show, and actually said
on-air that he credited WIZARD with getting his starring role on
MIAMI VICE:

He was in a casting call, in a line-up with 400 other actors all vying
for a role in the new series.  They asked him what parts he had
played.  He answered that he'd "played a cop, in Wizard of Speed and
Time".  They then screen-tested him, and he got the part of Tubbs.

Things could have been much different.  Without WIZARD, Philip would
have answered that he'd played a junkie, in BLACK FIST (a feature
that my e.b.p. claims to have produced).

On a similar note, Steve Brodie's obituary omitted WIZARD as Steve's
last movie - crediting instead MUGSY'S GIRLS.  I could stop there.
Or I could mention that the obituary was written by Steve's son, Kevin.
Who produced and directed MG.  Which film was distributed by SGE (and
quickly vanished).  And last I heard, Kevin was being waltzed around
by my e.b.p.  Hollywood is a very strange wrinkle of reality.

--mike

Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
From: magnus@bark-fddi.ii.uib.no (Magnus Alvestad)
Subject: Re: WIZARD Re-Visiting Scandinavia?
Reply-To: magnus@ii.uib.no
Organization: UVBS -> SFK/T-DSA / SOPS - HOS / RNoN
Date: 6 Nov 92 16:44:30

>>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:34:47 GMT, kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) said:

>>-Magnus (!kibo)

>Ooowow, watch out!
>Hope you got Official Authorization from _The_ *KIBO*..!
>His Eyes are _everywhere_ on the NewsNet, y'know!
>                 (So be careful where you step ;)

	Kibo> He's got authorization to not use my name, and complying nicely.  I
	Kibo> won't even have to bribe him with a new packet of spores for his
	Kibo> neamtode farm!

I don't even have a neamtode farm! Are you referring to my nematode
farm? As for that, I don't need more spores - I've got my kitchen.

	Kibo> Hey, Mike, ever drawn any lettering?

Jittlov Sans ? :-)

-Magnus (!kibo) 

PS Mike: In the programming language C, !a means 'not a'. DS

PS I wish I had a Dr Peppers. DS
From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: Philip Michael Thomas article in Sunshine magazine (FL)
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:29:11 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: gumby.cs.caltech.edu

<PXF3@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>But the other side of the coin can be found in the current issue of
>_Audubon_.  Sometimes, even when the assignment is to write something short
>(ie.  superficial) at least the editor doesn't mess it up.

And what article would this be?  Details!!  This is a Public Forum!
This is Celebration Centrum!  This is YOUR GROUP!!  (Cuz i gotta be
leaving soon, to get some more work done..!)

>Paula Ford   | Internet: pxf3@psuvm.psu.edu  | PO Box 674
>"Snaefridh"  | Bitnet:   pxf3@psuvm          | Hollidaysburg, PA 16648
>Den som har droemt Udfaerd og Daad senker ej Sejl uden med Sorg,
>                                  --Bjoernstjerne Bjoernson

that which has dreamed   and    lowers own soul (sjel?)   by sorrow...

(Ok, Paula - I know it's famous - but what means this?)

-- mjj (?)                        (and thanks for the maple leaf..)
From: harlock@rahul.net (Mike Harlock)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Wanted: PRKaSAoB (Practice Random....) Bumper stickers.
Keywords: practice random kindness and sensless acts of beauty
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:04:58 GMT
Organization: a2i network

HiLo.  I think I had heard somewhere that the Practice Random Kindness
bumper-stickers are available locally.  (Silicon Valley).  if anyone
knows, please pass theinfo on.  I saw one one someone's car, and thought that
it would be nice to put one on mine.

And now for the Viking version: "Practice Random Slayings and senseless acts
of Chivalry."

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov,alt.magnus.and.ketil
From: magnus@brisk.ii.uib.no (Magnus Alvestad)
Subject: Re: WIZARD Re-Visiting Scandinavia?
Reply-To: magnus@ii.uib.no
Organization: UVBS -> SFK/T-DSA / SOPS - HOS / RNoN
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 01:38:58 GMT

>>>>> On 8 Nov 92 02:20:00, ketil@sandel.ii.uib.no (Ketil M. Malde) said:

	Mike> form, back in 1913.  And that's Another Story...)  I
	Mike> can't accept private donations.  But...  There's the
	Mike> Hollywood Solution: OPM (ie - "other peoples' money").

Well, the way I see it, if we don't buy your precense here, we'll buy
things that are a lot less good for us. As for the Hollywood
comparision, I don't really think Spielberg, Coppola, Lucas and Stone
recieve a lot of donations.. ;-)

	Ketil> The other thing is that, given the beer prices in this country, we
	Ketil> can't afford it anyway, so we don't really have a use for money
	Ketil> anyway.. :-)

So if you just bring along some american beer (even if it is f*cking
close to water), we're satisfied.. ;-)

	Mike> Anyway, SAS roundtrip split 3 ways (or more) would be a gentler and
	Mike> kinder manner of reducing expenses.

	Ketil> Yes, yes.

Yes, yes!

	Ketil> Well, he says *not* kibo (or perhaps you don't program C?  The ! is a
	Ketil> not sign)

We (I) created the alt.magnus_and_ketil (later supposed to be
superceded by the backwards-compatible alt.magnus.and.ketil). Someone
mailed me and flamed me for creating this group world-wide. He told
me, after all I was not Kibo!

Well, I told him neither was Ketil, nor Kibo. 

	Mike> (: May All Your  \V/  Good Dreams
	Mike>    and Fine Wishes  /_\  Come True:)

	Ketil> Yes...I wish they would, too.
	Ketil> (Sorry about mutilating your wizard.)

Honk!

How do you expect your good dreams and fine wishes (a computer) to
come true when you mutilate our favourite wizard?

-Magnus (!kibo)
From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.mike-jittlov
Subject: Re: Philip Michael Thomas article in Sunshine magazine (FL)
Date: 10 Nov 1992 09:16:44 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: gumby.cs.caltech.edu

1000 THANKS FOR SENDING THE ENTIRE MAGAZINE, KENNETH!!

Wow - mint condition, too!  Scanning, scanning...nope, no mention of
WIZARD.  But it's a nice article.  Good for Philip!  He deserves it.

--Mike Jittlov                            (the reward's in the mail)
From: bfbear@penn.Gwinnett.COM (Penn Collins)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: ATHOP
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 19:41:48 EST

is NOW in Paperback!!!!!!

5.99$
ISBN# 0-345-36893-2

let me know if you need a copy (the company I work for has a 1-800 for
ordering)
Penn

Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: chris@keris.demon.co.uk (Chris Croughton)
Subject: Rumors 
Distribution: world
Organization: Keristor Systems
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:49:52 +0000


In article <1992Nov12.091102.13847@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
           hamners@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu writes:

>I heard a pair of rather odd rumors the other day that I'd like to hear
>confirmed or squashed, if some kind soul could help.

                             *** SQUASH ***

>Rumor #1: Anne McCafferey is gay.  Not like it matters one bit, but it's
>not something you read about on the back cover of _The White Dragon_, eh?

Well, I'm sure her two children would be interested to hear that!  She
certainly does have a lot of support for gays, and has gay friends
(hell, so have I!), but AFAIK she isn't herself...

>Rumor #2: Anne McCafferey is dead.  She died 2 months ago.  Someone, please
>say it isn't so.  This woman is absolutely hands down one of my favorite
>authors and her death would be an unparalleled (sp?) loss to the modern
>sci-fi literature community.  <-- Lots of $.50 words.

Someone better tell the folks who were at World Fantasy Con at the end
of October, where Anne was GoH!  She was alive and well, at that time,
and people have had EMAIL from her since...

As for being one of your favorite authors, she's one of mine, too, and I
totally agree with your assesment of her effect on the SF community...

Chris

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From: rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller, Linux Device Registrar)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: DragonsDanw on Audio Tape
Date: 12 Nov 1992 14:33:11 GMT
Organization: Just me.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33
Summary: Hey... This is *good*!

I just bought a used mail-delivery Jeep from the local post office.  It's
fun driving with the steering-wheel on the 'wrong' side ;-), but it's not
so fun not having a radio...  so I pulled out an old tape recorder/player.

On a whim, I got DragonsDawn from the local library... on cassette tape.
Is it nice!  I can't recall the story-teller's name, but she does a great
job of it.  She even tries to differentiate between the characters' voices
during dialog, and manages not to sound to silly t'boot!

Rick Miller   <rick@ee.uwm.edu> | <rick@discus.mil.wi.us>   Ricxjo Muelisto
Occupation:  Husband, Father, WEPCo. WAN Mgr., Discus Sys0p, and  Linux fan
From: pyuaq@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr G S Sutherland)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: Rumors
Date: 12 Nov 1992 16:44:39 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1992Nov12.091102.13847@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
hamners@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (stephen t hamner ) writes:

+I heard a pair of rather odd rumors the other day that I'd like to hear
+confirmed or squashed, if some kind soul could help.
+
+Rumor #1: Anne McCafferey is gay.  Not like it matters one bit, but it's
+not something you read about on the back cover of _The White Dragon_, eh?

Unlikely, as far as I remember the biogs in the books imply that she's
married. This would probably discount such a theory.

+Rumor #2: Anne McCafferey is dead.  She died 2 months ago.  Someone, please
+say it isn't so.  This woman is absolutely hands down one of my favorite
+authors and her death would be an unparalleled (sp?) loss to the modern
+sci-fi literature community.  <-- Lots of $.50 words.

I haven't heard this, but the new edition of Crystal Line (just out in the
UK) does not mention her death. Since it has only been released over here
in the last week, then I would assume that there would be a note to say 
that she was dead in the front cover or whatever.

+Someone please squash or confirm these.  Otherwise I'll never get to sleep
+at night!  :)
+
+-Stephen Hamner
+stephen@glia.biostr.washington.edu
+hamners@GAS.uug.arizona.edu
+hamner@hacks.arizona.edu
+
+hamner@hacks.arizona.edu

Hope this helps.

	Graeme Sutherland.
	Dante@PernMUSH
From: JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu (Me, silly!)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Re: I can't get into PernMUSH!
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:07:27 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Thanks so much for everyone who pointed out my idiocy...it's what I get for
spending all afternoon FTPing stuff (don't need port numbers for that! :).
Also, it's nice to know that even God can typo... :)

In article <BxGoDr.6qx.1@cs.cmu.edu>, jtraub+@CS.CMU.EDU (Joseph Traub) says:

>--Monochilde    <-- What, are ye sick?
>--
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty --Anonymous
>Argue for your limitations and sure enough they're yours --Richard Bach
>Isn't humanity egocentric? Whenever we talk, we say "Here's my two cents
>  worth," but we only offer "a penny for your thoughts." --ariel@cs.ucla.edu

>Moonchilde/Amythyst/JT Traub ---           jtraub@cmu.edu

Jean aka Varoni

 N C Q / N C .S  >> No Cute Quote / No Cute .Sig (yet)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
Subject: Robinton & Film Comments
From: tabbifli+@cs.cmu.edu (Melissa Tabbifli)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:20:56 GMT
Followup-To: alt.fan.pern
Organization: CMU/CS Department/Private Account


Away back when the 'let's cast the film' discussion was going on, someone
(or, rather, several someones) suggested Sean Connery as Robinton.  A 
question came up on if he could sing or not.. Answer: He could in 1959
when he starred in Walt Disney's _Darby O'Gill and the Little People_. 
The song was fairly short.. "Pretty Irish Girl".   It's on one of the 
_A Legacy in Song_ CDs that were recenty released by Disney. I make no
claims on his skill! :) 

There were also suggestions on Peter O'Toole for the part, due to his 
ability to do 'drunk' well.  It occurs to me that during the entire 
series, I'd never seen Robinton drunk.  Slightly tipsy, once, from
attempting to drink Lytol under the table (ref: Jaxom's Impression), but
never actually drunk.  While it's fairly clearly stated that he liked 
his wine - specifically, Benden Red - it never says he drinks to excess. 
Nor does it really imply it - more that he's a 'gourmet'.
	It's been a while since I've read the books, so there might
be a memory hole.. Anyone care to support or kill this?

Tabbi


-- 
May the Great Spirit grant you peace of mind,      |  Quote will be
May the peace be there in all the things you find, |  attributed when
May the peace be there in all you leave behind.    |  I find the ref.
	      The tabbifli - tabbifli@seismo.soar.cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Rumors
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:40:07 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1du1lnINNr08@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, pyuaq@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr G S Sutherland) writes:
> In article <1992Nov12.091102.13847@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
> hamners@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (stephen t hamner ) writes:
 
> +I heard a pair of rather odd rumors the other day that I'd like to hear
> +confirmed or squashed, if some kind soul could help.
> +
> +Rumor #1: Anne McCafferey is gay.  Not like it matters one bit, but it's
> +not something you read about on the back cover of _The White Dragon_, eh?
> 
> Unlikely, as far as I remember the biogs in the books imply that she's
> married. This would probably discount such a theory.

Still possible, as gays do marry members of the opposite sex for various
reasons. Actually, most of the lesbians I have talked with were married
or dating men when they realized/decided/whatever that they were gay.

--Semhaza
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern
From: jkiley@andy.bgsu.edu (James H. Kiley)
Subject: Re: Robinton & Film Comments
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:24:20 GMT

In article <mumble>, Tabbifli writes:

|> There were also suggestions on Peter O'Toole for the part, due to his 
|> ability to do 'drunk' well.  It occurs to me that during the entire 
|> series, I'd never seen Robinton drunk.  Slightly tipsy, once, from
|> attempting to drink Lytol under the table (ref: Jaxom's Impression), but
|> never actually drunk.  While it's fairly clearly stated that he liked 
|> his wine - specifically, Benden Red - it never says he drinks to excess. 
|> Nor does it really imply it - more that he's a 'gourmet'.
|> 	It's been a while since I've read the books, so there might
|> be a memory hole.. Anyone care to support or kill this?
|> 
|> Tabbi

	Yeah, from what I remember, and this would support the O'Toole idea, 
while Robinton didn't get too drunk with Lytol that evening, he did one hell of
a credible job of seeming to be drunk, until F'lar needed to speak with him 
after Lytol had passed out.

jk
Newsgroups: alt.fan.pern