HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: diverson@phys.ksu.edu (David Iverson)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Subject: Dig this (tibetan enlightenment)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 18:38:00 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: bohr.phys.ksu.edu

Here's something cool to ponder.  In Tibetan buddhism you have these crazy
haired women (demons) called Dakini's and they carry around these really
nasty knives.  What they do is this:

Imagine you are a hermit deep in meditation.  When you are ready for nirvana
a Dakini comes up behind you and chops your skull open, cuts of the cranium,
takes the rest of your body and puts it into a blender till it is the
consistency of tomato (e?) sauce, pours it into your severed cranium.  She
then hands you the brimming cup and orders you to drink hearty, me matey! 
If you have the detachment to chug it you pass into nirvana.

I thought it was cool.

-David Iverson

If you think I'm full of bullshit, or if you want to find out more look in
"Women Of Wisdom," by Tsultrim Allione, page 31.  From Arkana (one of those
damn Penguin subsidiaries)


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diverson@phys.ksu.edu
From: uman-russell@yale.edu (Russell Uman)
Newsgroups: alt.slack
Subject: pink boy
Keywords: geldings suburbia
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:33:07 GMT
Organization: Yale University Science & Engineering UNIX(tm), New Haven, CT 06520-2158
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

i've lost my slack, so i know i have it.
my only question is, now that i've lost it, how can i use it to
control others, most importantly my brain and my bowels?


-- 
russ
spooboy
fighting for injustice from a position of utimate weakness
inside i am happy
Newsgroups: alt.slack,alt.religion.kibology
From: mbfeld@unix.amherst.edu (A waste of bandwidth originating)
Subject: Re: Suggestions needed
Followup-To: alt.slack,alt.religion.kibology
Organization: an unknown point
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:46:36 GMT


David `Whybo' Tamkin (dattier@ddsw1.mcs.com) wrote:
: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) wrote in <ByxL1u.69v@world.std.com>:
: 
: | After all, on ounce of gold weighs nearly a ton.  
: 
: Wow.
: 
: Possible translations into English:
: 
: 1. "After all, on ounce of gold weighs nearly a ton [as written]."
: 
:    That's gibberish.

That's entertainment.

-Marlon

Which sways more, announce a gold or renounce a Kibo
Newsgroups: alt.gorets
From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Goret missing from basement
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 17:06:19 EST

I'm posting this on behalf of my brother who lives in West
Philadelphia. His pet goret is missing. She's been gone for several
weeks now. She left her gorethouse in my brother's basement and
apparently got out through a loose window. Her name's Penny, partly
because of her greenish-brown coat but partly as a joke because she
scavenges all kinds of coins EXCEPT pennies. She's only about a year
old and is about the size of a pumpkin. 

Not only does my brother miss her but -- this is a PUREBRED Eastern
Green Goret, sired by 1987 Goret of the Year, Kerygma III, and is
worth about $45,000. My brother is offering a reward of $5000, no
questions asked as long as she's safe and healthy. Please help.

--
- Rich Holmes
"Grown men, he told himself, in flat contradiction of centuries of
accumulated evidence about the way grown men behave, do not behave
like this." -- Douglas Adams
From: jamie@csd.uwo.ca (J. Blustein)
Subject: Re: Oooops!  Silly me!
Reply-To: jamie@uwo.ca (J. Blustein)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:08:30 GMT
Summary: repost of archive site info
Keywords: anonymous ftp postings advice oils technique

In article <BzA2Cv.7L6@mach1.wlu.ca>
maci9154@mach1.wlu.ca (macivor dawna) asked:
>I saw an address for an ftp site with all sorts of stuff from a.b., and
>silly me forgot to write it down.  Could someone send it to me?  I'd greatly
>apprecialte it!

--8<---
From: jamie@csd.uwo.ca (J. Blustein)
Subject: Mini ftp archive
Reply-To: jamie@uwo.ca (J. Blustein)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Tue, 8 Dec 1992 00:23:08 GMT
Followup-To: alt.backrubs
Summary: ftp.csd.uwo.ca [129.100.11.252] pub/news/alt.backrubs, until 1 Feb 93
Keywords: anonymous ftp postings advice oils technique

     An archive of alt.backrubs postings has been made available at
ftp.csd.uwo.ca [129.100.11.252] for anonymous ftp until 1 Feb 1993.
The files are in the directory pub/news/alt.backrubs.  A list of the
files and lengths in Kb is below.  (Note that the files are
compressed: used binary mode to transfer them.)

    The files are my own collection of postings and are far from
complete.  I saved these posts because I was interested in them, so I
can't guarantee that anyone will find what they want there.  I haven't
even saved all the postings about topics I'm interested in -- this is
especially true of the suggestions for books.  I think all the files
are in mailbox format, but I'm not sure.  I'd be very grateful if
someone would create an index to the postings in the files.

    The files will be at the site only until 1 Feb 1993.  If anyone
wants they can put them somewhere else.

List of files (zero-length files are for indexing only)
-------------
 2 alt.backrub.humour.Z        0 hand.cramps->hands&neck
 0 at.job->hands.and.neck      3 hands.and.neck.Z
 6 book.Z                      7 head.and.neck.aches.Z
 0 calf->foot                 20 oils.Z
 2 cross.fibre.means.Z         3 rolfing.whatis.Z
 3 cycling.massage.Z           2 scalp.massage.Z
 5 deep.back.Z                 3 self.massage.Z
 3 dont.use.floor.Z            6 stress.relief.at.job.Z
13 faql.Z                      2 swedish.techniques.Z
 3 finger.excercises.Z         3 technique.Z
13 front.rubs.Z                1 touch.vs.depression.Z
 1 general.neck.query.Z        0 with.clothes.on->at.job
 0 hand.cramps->fing.excer
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-- 
James Blustein                                        `Did you say "knives"?'
<jamie@uwo.ca>                                        `*Rotating* knives, yes.'
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: slightbo@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Sam Light)
Subject: Foot massage 
Reply-To: slightbo@1.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:48:32 GMT


Does anyone know the procedure for giving a foot massage? My SO is on 
her feet all day. I think a foot rub might be good relaxer. 
What do you think?
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Oils....
From: bthomas@dumaine.gac.edu (Barbara L Thomas)
Date: 12 Dec 92 11:41:29 -0600

In article <1992Dec10.171829.5927@octel.com>  writes:
> In article <1992Dec9.230740.9158@vaxeline.ftp.com>  
nirmal@vaxeline.ftp.com (Nirmal K. Samuel) writes:
> >
> >Hi,
> >	i happened to discover this newsgroup recently and I am
> >a ameatur (spl?)  interested only in family massages. I have found
> >the relaxation that msaage gives and I love it. I use Johnson's
> >baby oil. Are there oils that I can buy in stores, which are scented
> >and are better than this ?
> 
>   Don't use Johnson's it is primarily mineral oil --- a drying agent of  
all things.
> 
>   I use sweet almond oil, sometimes light vegetable oils cut with olive  
oil
>   depending on the time of the year (yup 5w in the winter and 50w in the  
summer!!!:)
> 
>   I get scents from a million places -one being shambalas in berkeley,  
but Im not
>   really happy with any of them ..IE vaniolla doesnt really smell like
>   vanilla, and the coconut is the damned hardest to find ..
> 
>   Easiest to find are herbal scents .. ie sage, or clove or cinnamon  
(use sparingly)
>   ..
Have you ever tried using extracts?  I personally have never tried it, but  
a friend of mine uses vanilla, cocoanut and peppermint extracts mixed with  
vegetable oil... She says it works really well.  Anyone know anything  
about it?
--
Barbara L. Thomas
"The World may never know."
bthomas@nic.gac.edu
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: mtlatour@next11 (MATTHEW T. LATOURETTE)
Subject: Re: Reply to Homo vs. Hetero wars
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:27:59 GMT

(whole lotta stuff deleted)
> If you'll note, my message also was an attempt to let the discussion
> die, I even apologized for responding to his post.  But no, you have to
> go and decide that I'm on a high horse for being annoyed with
> narrow-minded bigotry.  And so you then post a message to that effect
> while saying that we should shut up.
> 
> The way to let a thread die is to not respond.  Do you really think the
> people subscribed to this newsgroup are going to end a discussion just
> because you tell them to?
> 
> I'm willing to bet you my two cents that you won't be able to let me
> have the last word--I think that you'll respond, thereby continuing the
> discussion.
You're right, I'm responding.

> It's like people yelling "Shut up, be quiet!" back and forth at each  
other.
> 
> So stop being such a stick in the mud.
> 
> Dan "Yippee" Calle
> 
(.sig deleted)
Sorry Dan, I was having a bad hair day and then...8-)
Actually, I didn't even read your whole post. I had read several others  
and was getting progressively more and more pissed off. My post was not  
intended for just you specifically (although I supposed I probably didn't  
convey that very well). My post was intended to say, in essence
 HEY EVERYBODY, CUT IT OUT. TAKE IT ELSEWHERE.
This board was and is still for massage. Stuff about sexual preference,  
"My God is bigger than your God" religious blah, etc., etc., etc. still  
doesn't belong on this board. The frequency with which it pops up is a bit  
too much and it inhibits the discussion of massage.

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From: keg@strathspey.llnl.gov (Keith Grant)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Portland, Oregon
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:48:54 GMT
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Originator: keg@strathspey.llnl.gov


In article <1glgqiINNkej@gaia.ucs.orst.edu>, parkerg@osshe.edu (Greg Parker) writes:
|> Anyone have experience with Portland/Salem area?


Is that located between the shoulder blades or more towards the lumbar area?
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Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: dblackbu@alleg.edu (Dave Blackburn)
Subject: Re: Foot massage 
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:30:57 GMT

In article <BzB80x.DKC@encore.com> slightbo@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Sam Light)  
writes:
>
>Does anyone know the procedure for giving a foot massage? My SO is on 
>her feet all day. I think a foot rub might be good relaxer. 
>What do you think?
>
>

Work mostly on the fleshy arch, also on the calf. Deep pressure on the bottom  
of the arch is really nice. Improvisation and feedback is the best!
--

* Dave Blackburn  dblackbu@alleg.edu  flames to self@home.dev.null *          
* Chemistry, Macs, Hypercard, cats,  <>< religion, & the Dead      *
* (Anyone else who held these opinions would be as crazy as I am.) *
*   "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own"   *
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: wilusd@cary108.its.rpi.edu (David John Wilusz)
Subject: thanks all
Reply-To: wilusd@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:39:54 GMT

	Well, I've been keeping up with this newsgroup for quite
some time now, learning a little here and there.
	I got some kind of bug or flu three days ago.  My whole
body felt like I had run a marathon the day before--sore, tight.
Worst of all, my neck felt like it was going to break in half, and
I had a terrible headache.
	Soooooooo...remembering the vast knowledge from alt.backrubs,
I reached behind my neck with both hands and gave myself an
incredibly relaxing neckrub.  I never thought it would work quite
so well, but it even took my headache away for a while.  I`m 
going to have to remember that little trick...
	I also tried pinching the muscle/nerve/tissue whatever 
between my thumb and my forefinger as someone described some time
ago...didn't work for me, but the other technique was just as 
effective.

	Just saying thanks to all who take the time to post to this
newsgroup.

	Dave
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: jamie@csd.uwo.ca (J. Blustein)
Subject: Re: Oils....
Reply-To: jamie@uwo.ca (J. Blustein)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:52:21 GMT
Summary: extracts mixed with veggie oil => see the archive
Keywords: oils extract vegetable archive ftp site

In article <1992Dec12.114130.2844@gacvx2.gac.edu>
bthomas@dumaine.gac.edu (Barbara L Thomas) asked:
>Have you ever tried using extracts?  I personally have never tried it, but  
>a friend of mine uses vanilla, cocoanut and peppermint extracts mixed with  
>vegetable oil... She says it works really well.  Anyone know anything  
>about it?

In article <1992Dec8.002308.18606@julian.uwo.ca> jamie@csd.uwo.ca (J.
Blustein) wrote:
<     An archive of alt.backrubs postings has been made available at
<ftp.csd.uwo.ca [129.100.11.252] for anonymous ftp until 1 Feb 1993.
<The files are in the directory pub/news/alt.backrubs.  A list of the
<files and lengths in Kb is below.  (Note that the files are
<compressed: used binary mode to transfer them.)

    The oils file at the archive site has discussions of different
extracts and mixing them.  (The oils file is the largest of the buch
at 20k).

-- 
James Blustein                                        `Did you say "knives"?'
<jamie@uwo.ca>                                        `*Rotating* knives, yes.'
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
From: kirsten@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Kirsten Starcher)
Subject: Shoulder self-massage (was Re: shoulders)
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 00:03:21 GMT

The area around my shoulder and shoulderblades tends to be very tense and tight.
Apart from getting someone else to massage them for me, or lying down on a 
"Ma Roller" or a rubber ball (works great on one spot), does anyone know of a 
good way to loosen those muscles yourself?  I can massage one shoulder with the
other hand, but as that tightens the muscles on the massaging-hand side it's
rather self-defeating.


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.Kirsten Starcher...............................Your breath is steaming up... 
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From: myra@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Myra VanInwegen)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Reply to Homo vs. Hetero wars
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:30:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <of9lOwq00WBNI0bbo4@andrew.cmu.edu>
dc5p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Daniel Calle) writes:
>And another thing to think about, don't you think this newsgroup would
>be REALLY boring if all we did was discuss massage techniques?  

Personally, I think it would be wonderful if all the articles here had
some connection to backrubs. Flame wars are a waste of time: all they
do is help blow off steam. No one will have changed his or her opinion
on homosexuality by reading this exchange of articles. It is true that
if someone posts something that I violently disagree with, even if it
is way off the subject of the newsgroup, and no one else posts a
response, I will reply. But come now, we've already had posts on each
side of this topic and nothing more can be added except to repeat the
arguments in various ways.

>but there's nothing wrong with an
>argument or discussion varying a little from the original subject. 

I agree. And I did find the discussion of whether or not the
reluctance to give or recieve backrubs with a partner of the same sex
is a result of the somewhat homophobic attitude of this society to be
interesting. But the rightness or wrongness or origins of
homosexuality have nothing to do with backrubs and should not be
discussed here.

-Myra
myra@saul.cis.upenn.edu
From: keg@strathspey.llnl.gov (Keith Grant)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: how to get certified
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:33:02 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Originator: keg@strathspey.llnl.gov


In article <9J8TBQ3L@cc.swarthmore.edu>, chorwit1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Cathy Horwitz) writes:
|> Someone out there must know....How does someone go about getting certified?
|>  I'm not totally sure that I want to, but I would like some information. 
|> Do you take a test?  Is it written or practical or do you just complete the
|> training?  Also, what about cost (ouch)?  If someone could send information
|> and could give me the name of the organization that does the certifying I
|> would be a very happy one.  Thanks,											Cathy
|> 


As an addition to the response I made yesterday, this is the info on the
book I mentioned about massage cert. requirements that was published by 
Station Hill Press.  I don't have a copy, so I can't attest to how
comprehensive the book is, but they are a publisher of quality books.

Ashley, Martin: Massage - A Career at your fingertips,  Station Hill Press,
Order No. P1354, $19.95 paper, ISBN 0-88268-135-4, 7X10, 292 pages, index.

[Description from the Body/Mind books - Winter 1992-93 catalog]
A growing interest in therapeutic massage has focused increasing attention on
career opportunities in the field.  Now in Massage: A Career at your
Fingertips, a successful therapist draws on his own experience, as well as
interviews with more than 50 massage practitioners and bodyworkers, to produce
a comprehensive reference to the profession.  Here is the complete rundown on
schools, licensing, professional organizations, sources of equiptment,
suppliers in the U.S., legal requirements, and more.  A thorough overview of
career options and a user-friendly career-planning guide compplete this 
invaluable reference for novices, students, and practicing professionals

Station Hill Press, Inc.
Barrytown, New York, 12507
914-758-5840
Credit Card orders: 800-342-1993 (ask for extension Station Hill Press)
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  I                         I (or perhaps dancing is just common sense)     I
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  I opinion and bear nary a relation to the policies or positions of LLNL   I
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From: jem3k@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Still searching)
Subject: Re: Reply to Homo vs. Hetero wars
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:28:49 GMT
From: gap5u@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Gregory Perron)
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Oils....
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:17:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia


I would suggest Neutrogena Body Oil--a 8oz bottle is anywhere from
$7-9.  Most of the oils sold in places like "the Body Shop" are more
expensive than that (on a per once basis-about 3X the cost).  They
make scented and nonscented.  The base is soybean oil; it's the first
oil I've used, but I'm happy with it. A few drops of essential oils
(cinammon, peppermint) added to a few oz in a separate bottle would be
nice, but I haven't yet found a place that sells essential oil by the
drop, so I'll do with the fragrance the Body Oil came with.  I'd
prefer nonscented, but the scented is pretty nice.  (My girlfriend
prefers the scented).  Must be some macho thing--subconsciously, I
don't want to smell purty.
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Gregory Perron        | Greg's Law: Understand what I say, not
gap5u@virginia.edu    | what I mean.  No, wait, that's not right...
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:08:37 -0500 
From: Daniel Calle <dc5p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Oils....
	<1992Dec15.161734.5241@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
Distribution: usa

>I would suggest Neutrogena Body Oil--a 8oz bottle is anywhere from
>$7-9.  Most of the oils sold in places like "the Body Shop" are more
>expensive than that (on a per once basis-about 3X the cost).  They

I don't recall exactly but I don't believe that what my girlfriend got
from that place in Iowa (with the (800) 562-5222 number) cost $21-36.  I
thought it was down closer to $10 or so.  This is also for 8 ounces. 
Plus shipping if they have to mail it to you.  But shipping's not much
for 8 oz.

Dan "Yippee" Calle

DanMan@cmu.edu, dc5p+@andrew.cmu.edu, calle96@sbc.edu

	"Many persons have destroyed themselves through
	 the inability to stop thinking."
         -H.E. Butler, _Practical Methods to Ensure Success_, 1893

"I disagree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right
to say it."   -Voltaire
Newsgroups: alt.backrubs
Subject: Re: Scratching (on purpose! 8-)
From: bthomas@perdita.gac.edu (Barbara L Thomas)
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:17:43 -0600

In article <1992Dec10.230013.10193@news.cs.brandeis.edu>  writes:
> I KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT.  WE USED TO GIVE EACH OTHER  
"THE
> CHILLS".  THAT DID FEEL GOOD.  NEXT TIME YOU SEE AN OLD FRIEND, RUN YOUR  
FINGER TIPS OVER THE BACK OF THEIR NECK.  THEY'LL TINGLE.

My Dad is the one who not only gave me strong hands and long fingers  
(genetically speaking, of course) :) , he is also the one who taught me  
how to give good backrubs.  As much as he enjoys giving them, I think that  
he enjoys a good backscratching even more than getting a backrub.  Some  
people are much more comfortable with scratching and like getting rid of  
any "itching."  (Most of which is only felt once you begin scratching...)  
:):):)  Anyway, never rule out anything in a good backrub.  Variety makes  
it interesting time after time...
--
Barbara L. Thomas
"The World may never know."
bthomas@nic.gac.edu