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From: scocur@auto-trol.com (Scott Currier)
Subject: Re: spark plugs
Organization: Auto-trol Technology Corporation
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:33:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.213700.26429@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> rjwade@rainbow.ecn.purdue.edu (Robert J. Wade) writes:
>
>bosch platinum=great and relatively inexpensive($1.68 each)
>buy them with no reservations.
>-king bob

Buy them with serious reservations.  They work fine in some cars,
but foul terribly in others.

My Cherokee runs great with them, My Lincoln won't go 500 miles
before they foul.  I switched the Lincoln to NGK V-grooves, and 
haven't had a problem since.

Later.

Disclaimer: Dis Claim is mine, all mine...

scocur@auto-trol.com
From: "tom neumann" <tom.neumann@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: are all americans stu
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:03:46 EST
Reply-To: "tom neumann" <tom.neumann@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems


in: Message-ID: <1992Apr14.150031.4567#menudo.uh.edu>
    kevin@taronga.taronga.com (Kevin Brown) writes:

KB>Hmm...you mean automobiles like my Mustang GT?  Capable of cruising
KB>at 120 easily...:-)

My older brother is in the Canadain Forces and was stationed in Lahr,
west Germany in 1989 and 1990.

He always wanted a GT so he ordered himself an American spec GT. The
car would do close to 145 miles per hour on the Autobahn, but he
noticed a few things:

1) The engine would overheat very quickly if he kept his speed over 120
for any length of time.

2) The brakes were not even remotely up to the task of slowing the
car down from top speed. (One day he and a buddy had it up over 145
mph and had toslow down quickly for the exit ramp. He hit the brakes
HARD, and by te time he slowed down to 110 mph or so huge clouds of
smoke were pouring out o the rear brakes. By the time he got it
downto about 70 mph therewas effectively NO brakes left; as hard as
he pressed on the pedal _nothing_ was happening.

The Mustang is a great car, and has a terrific bang-for-the-buck, but
a high-speed cruiser it's not [at least in STOCK form.]

Tom Neumann
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From: peterco@eff.org (Peter A. Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: why buy japanese?
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:15:09 GMT
     <p+4tb8k@rpi.edu>
Organization: ON Technology, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2

No offense or anything, but save this discussion for cross-posting in
rec.audio or rec.video.  This is rec.autos.
From: lau@cs.umn.edu (Patrick Lau)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Help (Geo Spectrum: Good Car?)
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:55:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr8.175535.13665
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In article <1992Apr4.015030.5306@en.ecn.purdue.edu> yeung@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Augustus W Yeung) writes:
>I am planning to buy a 89 Geo Spectrum for about $3700. It is
> a automatic with 50k on it. Is this a good deal? Any problem
> with Spectrum. Consumer Report said it is a OK car.
>
> thanks
> gus

I believe the Geo Spectrum is not in production any more. Is it a good
idea to buy a used car that is no longer in production?

Patrick
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From: thomas@neocad.com (Thomas Weis)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 1991 Lincoln Continental.
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:48:34 GMT
Organization: NeoCAD, Inc.

>As pointed out several times before, the mere fact that no American
>manufacturer has yet shipped in volume right hand drive cars to enter
>into other markets but they have complained time and time again about
>not being able to sell in Japan makes many of us doubt their true
>sincerity.
>
>-Carl-

Yeah.  Why don't the other manufacturing industries that 'claim' to have
problems selling in Japan put right hand drive on their products?  Why
do we only see left hand drive PBXs and cellular phones?  Left hand drive
baseball bats and skis and tire chains and ......

While we're at it, lets start putting right hand drive on agricultural 
products too.  

Thomas
From: zornow@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Claudia Zornow)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:00:15 GMT
Subject: Re: The GODs are telling you something (Was: Re: Common electrical problem
Organization: HP SSD R & D
Newsgroups: rec.autos

>filter), every time I get out of the car, I get a static shock.  It only  
>happens when my feet are grounded (i.e. on the ground) and I touch a metal  
>part of the car, and only immediately after I get out.  It gets worse the  
>longer I drive!  I get some real doozies when I drive even 10 or 15 miles  
>across town to get to the office.  It's gotten to the point where I'm  
>always sure to touch the car with a clothed part of my body to decrease  
>the pain of the shock.

This happens to me on my '92 Toyota Corolla.  I haven't noticed a
correlation between strength of shock and distance driven, though.
It did *not* happen on my '85 Honda Accord.  Both cars had/have
carpeted floor mats.  There are many more electrical "toys" (power 
locks, power windows, etc.) on the Toyota; could that be why?

Claudia
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jjn@cbjjn.cb.att.com (Jeff Nappi)
Subject: Re: Fabulous New RX7
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:52:41 GMT

In article <kubqu4INNeo6@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, barnesm@vavau.Corp.Sun.COM (Mark Barnes) writes:
|> It may look, handle, and perform fabulously, but it surely doesn't  fit in my
|> wallet fabulously.  I saw one at a dealer yesyerday.  The sticker was $34K.
|> The dealer markup was $10K.    44 Thousand Dollars?????     I thought
|> Mazda was going to start a *new* brand name (Amati) to go up-market.
|> 
|> The RX-7 used to be the best selling sports car in the US.   No more.

Well there several ways of looking at this, all of which do not reduce the
price but might ease the pain.

You are getting a car that delivers 911 Turbo and NSX performace for the
third of the price.-)

I can purchase a RX7 R1 packaged car for about 30k, I would have laughed
in the dealers face at a 44k price tag. Of course there is always some
idiot out there who will pay that price, I know of a few Miata owners who
can't understand why they can't recoup the ridiculous prices they paid 
for there Miatas.
-- 
Jeff Nappi
Columbus Bell Labs
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jniewiad@csws5.ic.sunysb.edu (Jan Jozef Niewiadomski)
Subject: Re: Engine Braking - what causes it?
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:22:48 GMT

Yo, people,

I've gone to some trouble to find out what exactly causes engine braking.
The main components besides friction are the following:

	Blocked induction

	Compression

	Pre-ignition

The following is not a flame but simply an attempt to clarify all the
conflicting data.  It is mostly my interpretation of the negative-area
Carnot-cycles I got from several CAT design and spec manuals.

GAS ENGINES
	Induction work, as previously stated, is approx. 2atm * disp

	Compression work, also approx. 2atm * disp (you take in "vaccuum"
	  you do little work compressing vaccuum)
	  The advanced ignition does considerable negative work here.

	Power stroke is negligible since most of the "idle-mixture"
	  is already burnt and the engine did not take much in in 
	  the first place.

DIESELS
	Negligible induction work

	You gotta compress whatever you take in (11.5atm * disp for non-turbos,
	  less for turbo-diesels).  Heat produced is not returned to the cycle
	  it's just thrown out of the exhaust.  Low revving diesels have less
	  advance (but it's entirely centrifugal, gas engines have their vac.
	  retard when braking).  Contrary to popular misconception, compression
	  is hard work.  If you ever see a 1200 horsepower CAT generator ( no
	  turbo, no ignition advance) turned off it stops dead even with a 600
	  kilowatt generator as a flywheel; I mean DEAD. It has to be seen to
	  be believed.

	Power stroke; low-revving diesels diesels have a power stroke which
	  hinders braking.  Turbodiesels also have less advance and also 
	  slightly lower compression so you have fuel left to burn for the
	  power stroke which also hinders braking.  Normally aspirated diesels
	  have enough advance to allow considerable combustion during the 
	  compression stroke which HELPS braking


As a side-note, people who claim that when they take their foot off the
diesel-pedal and the revs just drop to idle are simply witnessing the automatic
transmission decoupling so as not to ruin the torque converter. This will not
happen with a manual transmission.  To re-couple for braking and some whiplash
go from D to 3 or 2.  My 6.2 GMC ( which no longer qualifies since I converted
it to run 95% kerosene and 5% SAE30) does the same thing in drive, but drop
down to 3 and you're likely to hit the steering wheel. (Feel free to ask for
a test drive).  Anyway, a normally aspirated diesel with a manual transmission
and a gasoline motor with the same tranny (read BOTH AT SAME RPM), same 
displacement, slowing down the same bulk; the diesel will win out if it's a 
fairly high revving diesel.

You NEED the RPM for braking (more negative work per unit time), hence the 
downshifting.

Turbos and low rev diesels will vary depending on the advance mechanism and
the type of fuel. (you'll probably slow down faster with #1 than with #2)



Hope this helps

JJ
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mperlman@isis.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: Re: Are all Americans Stupid???
Keywords: wasted bandwidth, wasted time
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 16:12:20 GMT

Scoreboard:

USA kicks crumpet monkies out of the country in 1776.
South Africa will do the same soon...
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Arafats plane went down becuase he didn't put his meal tray up!!!!!!!!!
From: stecz@hotwheel.Eng.Sun.COM (John Steczkowski [CONTRACTOR])
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Turbo-Revving
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:26:42 GMT
Reply-To: stecz@hotwheel.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: hotwheel

In article 18317@galileo.cc.rochester.edu, awds_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Clark Kent) writes:
> happened, only I was in second accelerating through a parking lot, when the
> accelerator pedal stuck to the floor.  Not wanting to exceed 60 in a lot, I 

You just solved your own problem, the acceralter linkage is sticking someplace.

> put in the clutch, and tried to pry the pedal off the floor with my other
> foot.  To no avail, I again cut the ignition.  Seconds later, I restarted 
> the engine, again to a very high rpm.  I finally rolled to a stop, waited a 
> bit, and started up.  Everything seemed fine.  I drove home and parked the
> car, where it will stay until I can get it looked at.  
> 
> 	Have any of you T-Bird owners experienced this?  It scared the p*ss
> out of me, especially not knowing its cause.  What are the chances that my
> engine/turbo was/were damaged as a result of this sudden overrevving/shutdown?
> I bought it less than a month ago, and I've only put 800 miles on it.  Should
> I take it to the used car dealer where I purchased it, or have it looked at
> by Ford.  My after-market AGC warranty covers the engine/turbo, I guess
> that's another option.  If you have any ideas, please post or email me, as I
> will not sleep at night until it's solved.  Thanks...
> 
> 				Adam Edwards

I don't think that the engine electronics or turbo have anything to do with it, it
is a mechanical problem with the throttle linkage.  Your engine electronics can't
open the throttle butterfly, you have to do that with the throttle.  So I would
have the linkage checked out.

---
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        65mph: it's not a good idea, it just the law.
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.music.misc,rec.arts.movies,alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: hoff@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Wildfire)
Subject: Re: Free magazine from subsription services.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:08:24 GMT

rgarg@tellabs.com (Rajesh Garg) writes:

>Right Now they are offering this special offer:

>You can call them and either give them the address
>label info from your old subscription or ask them a
>free trial offer subscription for one full year with
>a purchase of any magazine.                     ^^^^
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>No flames because if you don't want a free magazine, don't
>call them. If you want a free magazine, call them. In either
>case you don't loose anything.
>%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%

This doesn't look so free to me........

			-Wildfire-
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From: johnson@wrs.com (David Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Fabulous New RX7
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:16:10 GMT
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.

david@xlnt.com (David Johnson) writes:

>In article <1992Apr07.225838.2841@engr.washington.edu>, eliot@stalfos.engr.washington.edu (Brutus Thornapple) writes:

>I think the Miata's light weight is much is the reason why it feels so nice to
>drive.  It is not fast but it really has a good feel to it when driving.

Now, if only they would transplant a rotory into it we'd have something!

David C. Johnson 
Wind River Systems
johnson@WRS.COM 

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>XLNT Designs, Inc. (XDI)
>david@xlnt.com
>the hapa haole
>(or more precisely the hakka haole)
>(or even more precisely, the hapa hakka hapa haole, or h^4)
From: u8acb@ohm.york.ac.uk (Alex Barclay)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Electric pump oil remover
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:38:21 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

In <30267@cbmvax.commodore.com> dean@cbmvax.commodore.com (Jeff Dean - LSI Test) writes:

>No, a car ready for fresh oil already has a fresh oil filter installed.
>That little pump won't make changing the filter any cleaner, and in some 
>cases you'll still need to crawl under the vehicle to swap filters anyway.

Well I'll agree here. On my car you have to crawl under the engine compartment
reach up the side to pass a strap wrench over the filter and then undo it.
It isn't possible to drain first as you can't even see it from above. The
result is that with oil all down your arm there is no need to get a fancy
little pump to clean up the rest of the job. My parents generally bar me from
the house when they hear that it's time for an oil change and as if my magic
a bucket of hot water and some swarfega appears by the locked door :-)

			Alex.
From: welty@cabot.balltown.cma.COM (richard welty)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: End of Golden Era at Honda
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:09:42 GMT
Organization: New York State Institute for Sebastian Cabot Studies

In article <1992Apr8.110753.1471@citec.oz.au> sgccrjh@citec.oz.au (Robert Howlett) writes:
>1986-1992 Prelude

>Innovative!  Four wheel steering proved to be a significant advance,
>while the others were pushing 'gimmicks'.

i'm curious about your logic here; i'm familiar with tests which
suggested the true effect of 4w steering was minimal.

richard
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From: carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: A Question about leasing
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:09:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Cayman Systems Inc., Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: tinyguy@cs.mcgill.ca's message of 15 Apr 92 17:00:47 GMT
bcc: carl


Advertisements for leases tend to tell you very little useful
information.

>"$177.00 per month, based on 48 months lease with $1500
> cash down or trade... "

You should ask what the residual value of the car is.  That is the
price that you will have to pay (lump sum) at the end of the lease.
Also, the money factor is important.  When you know the money factor
you can figure out the "effective interest" that they are charging
you.  We would have bought (leased) the Infiniti G20 if the damned
money factor wasn't so high .00431 (effective interest rate of
10.34%).

If the lease is a 3 or 4 year lease, you *could* take out a car loan
at the end of the lease for the residual value.  Typical residuals for
a 4 year lease are anywhere from 30-50% of the MSRP (they ALWAYS use
MSRP to calculate residuals).  This percentage varies WIDELY from car
to car, but is consistent across different DEALERS of the same car.
The buyback option come in two forms.  1) The quote you a number and
that is a guaranteed figure that you can buy the car for at the end of
the lease.  2) They tell you that you can buy it for NADA book value
(perhaps plus 5% or something like that).  No matter WHICH one it is,
if, at the end of the lease you want to buy the car you can make them
an offer for less than they ask.  Since banks aren't really into
owning cars, there's a chance that you'll be able to work something
out.

I was told that over 90% of leases do NOT end up with the person
buying the car.  I don't know if this is true or not, but I'm just
throwing it out on the floor...

-Carl-



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From: floyd@eng.umd.edu (Mike Hughes)
Subject: Re: Common electrical problem
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 00:42:23 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland

In article <579@tekgen.bv.tek.com> bryan@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Bryan Olson) writes:
>>>Okay, speaking of bizarre electrical things... on my new GTI (yes I'm the  
>>>one that posted a few days ago about the coolant light and stuck oil  
>>>filter), every time I get out of the car, I get a static shock.  It only  
>>>happens when my feet are grounded (i.e. on the ground) and I touch a metal  
>
>This may not be the same problem, but this happens on my Jetta from time to 
>time. I have some "anti-static" spray that I spray on my seats every year or so.

Actually, the first poster was apparently experiencing static build-up due to
air molecules rushing across the surface of the car, while you (Bryan), are ex-
periencing the other, more common source of static build-up...cloth seats.
Let it be stated clearly that...*THIS IS NOT A FAULT OF YOUR CAR'S ELECTRICAL
SYSTEM!!!*...-Mike

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: =8^) Mike Hughes  =8^( : he blesses you with sickness cause love is a curse.:
:Mail---floyd@eng.umd.edu: The arsenic in your Koolaid, the bomb in your mail,:
:Voice--(301) 340-0922   : he disappears in motion but leaves a bloody trail. :
From: gfritz@sage.cc.purdue.edu ("Happy Fun Ball")
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: DeLorean info request
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:46:56 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

Hello everyone.  I am doing some research for personal curiousity, and I would
like to compile as much information as possible about John DeLorean, DeLorean
Motor Company, and the DMC-12.  Facts as well as rumors.  Good books on the
subject.  Good periodical articles.  Word of mouth.  Are there archives of
articles which have been converted to electronic text?  Like I said before,
any and all sources are wanted.

This request will be posted in several groups which I thought appropriate.  As
If you regulars feel that this post has been placed inapropriately, then I will
apologise in advance since I do not read these groups regularly and may not
know what is taboo.

Please respond via e-mail, as I no time to sift through these newsgroups.  I
also send my thanks in advance, and please don't get offended by not receiving
a personal note of thanks.  "Thank you all for your help."

Geoff Fritz

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From: akmorita@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jean-Luc Piccard)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Tire Advice:  High Performace All Seasons
Date: 26 Mar 92 08:56:07 GMT
Reply-To: akmorita@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jean-Luc Piccard)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: akmorita@tramp.cc.utexas.edu

I have a few question about tires for the net.  In the light of the
recent discussions on high performance tires, I have a few questions
that I hope can be answered.  

I am looking for high performance all season tires.  The size is
205/70-14 and it goes on a Nissan truck.  My questions is, what is a
good high performance all season tire in this size?  Most of the
discussion on the net has been on tires that don't come in this size.

I used to have a set of GY Eagle GT's (not +4's) and they didn't quite
performed as I expected for tires in this price range.  They have *no*
bad weather tractions.  The cheapo $35 Western Auto tires I have on
handles better in the rain and snow, and respectable in dry.

I was looking into all-season because it rains here often and I don't
want to change tires every year when I go skiing.  I am also not very
happy with the fact that the sidewall of my current all-season (no
speed rating) tire is wearing out prematurely.  So my compromise would
be a set of high performance all season tires.

I have narrowed my decision down to about half-a-dozen or so tires.  I
would like comments and suggestions on these or other comparable ones.
They are:

Pirelli P77
Bridgestone HP41 Potenza or Turanza S (are these all seasons?)
Falken FK07U
Continental CH51
General XP2000
GT Plus 70 (I don't know the brand, they are sold by NTW)
BFG Radial T/A
Dunlop GT Qualifier S

As you can see from my selection, I am keeping the cost per tire to <$75.  
I would appreciate any wisdoms and advises.  Thanks in advance.



akmorita@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: martin@nx21.mik.uky.edu (Martin Smith)
Subject: Caterham SuperSeven
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:28:16 GMT
X-Bytes: 

Could I get some opinions on this car? Pros and Cons.
I have been thinking about purchasing one for a while.  I can get it as a  
kit or as a whole. 
What is the general opinion on the kit? Could you email your responses 
		

		martin
From: sdans@watson.ibm.com (Dan Simoes)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Austin/Morris Minis!
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:43:46 GMT
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

In article <1992Apr16.190420.1@camins.camosun.bc.ca> comptec90041@camins.camosun.bc.ca writes:
>Surely there must be some mini owners out there on the net?!?!  Perhaps 
>there is even a mailing list somewhere...E-mail me if you have one of these 
>great cars...Perhaps there is a mailing list?
>
>Ian Hobday
>COMPTEC90041@camins.Camosun.bc.ca

I guess you'd be interested to know that in Portugal, one can still buy a
brand new mini.  They were selling them when I went there this past March...

| Dan |

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