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Subject: Re: Smiths releases
From: john@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (John Q. Generic)
Date: 16 Aug 92 22:23:37 PDT
Organization: California State University, Fresno

In article <1992Aug17.023557.19065@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umdenbo0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (David A. Denboer) writes:
>The Morrissey single is out here already (about a week now...)
>Haven't yet got it (or the new album...short of cash)

I assume you refer to "We hate it when our friends become successful,"
if so it is nothing impressive lyrically or musically.  I find it
repetitious and has a rather obvious message.  Morrissey has done much
better.  The "Fatty" song is also on the album, and it is about the
same quality. 

>
>Any opinions on the  new album ?  Should I buy it?
>
The most telling change in Morrissey's work can be seen in the fact
that for the first time in any full length releases he has failed to
include lyrics.  I guess they don't matter any more.  The album has a
                 [Burn down the disco, hang the blessed DJ...] 
few memorable lines (better than Kill Uncle), but everything is pretty
straightforward alternapop.  If you really liked his earlier solo
stuff, you'll probably like the new album, but it lacks the orginality
that Marr contributed. 

What's happening to all the good darkly ironic writers like Morrissey,
the Pixies, and the Sugarcubes?  They've said little of value recently.



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From: chappy@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Doug R. Chapman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Buffy Soundtrack
Date: 12 Aug 1992 15:10:10 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

We received the new soundtrack to Buffy the vampire slayer today.  Some of 
the tracks are:

Mattew Sweet - Silent City    
Toad the Wet Sprocket - Little Heaven
dIVINYLS - I Ain't Gonna Eat Out My Heart Anymore
The Cult - Zap City
Mary's Danish - I Fought The Law

I know that the Toad the Wet Sprocket song is new but does anyone else know
about the other songs?

Interesting note.  The song Teen Angst by Cracker is used in the TV promo but
is not on the Soundtrack. hmmmmm...


-- 
Doug Chapman
KSDB 91.9 Manhattan, KS.
From: ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Morrissey vs. Smiths
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:36:53 GMT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <2A9147FE.7547@ics.uci.edu>, kkawado@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Kevin Y.
Kawado) says:
>
>In article <Bt6uwE.J2t@wpi.WPI.EDU> flamengo@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lourenco William
>Dantas) writes:
>>       Did anyone catch Morrissey on Hanging w/ MTV or on 120 Mins.?
>>       He claimed that if he had to choose between playing with the
>>       Smiths and the band he has now ("this" band), he would prefer
>>       "this" band. Many people clapped and cheered for this response.
>>       Plus, when this question was asked, the girl who asked it was
>>       booed.
>
>Heh...that show is pretty bad...I don't know why Morrissey agreed to play
>on there.

     I tend to agree...it is a show more for teen-agers. IMHO, he could
 have sung some better songs on the show. I wasn't too crazy about
 " You're the one for me, fatty" and "Certain people I know". I feel that
 he should have sung either " We hate it...", "Tommorrow" or that song
 that has the lyric "London is dead" the title escapes me.
    As for MTV, they really should play more videos from alternative
 artists. That was what they did in the very beginning, when unknown
 bands were the first ones making videos before they got into Micheal
 Jackson and Maddonna.

 I liked the line about Sylvia Plath.  From
>the looks of the audience, including the girl that asked the question,
>none of them seemed to know who Sylvia Plath was :-).
>
   That's because they were teenagers who should read more. The thing that
 I like Morrissey is that he does read poetry and reads the works of
 authors like Oscar Wilde. I don't know if the fans are into it though.
>
>Well, Morrissey has been infinitely more popular than the Smiths, even
>though some of his music isn't quite at the same standard as it was with
>the Smiths.  I really like his new band; it's the best set-up he's had
>in a LONG time.  Now that they're writing music together, the band shows
>some promise.
>
    He did make a point in saying that the fans are romanced about the
  Smiths.(It may be similar to the Beatle fans preferring Lennon and
  McCartney together than their solo careers.) All good bands must
  come to an end, and it is time to move on. Morrissey may never
  artistically do better solo than with the Smiths (again the analogy
  of Paul and Wings not being better than the Beatles), but he is moving
  on, regardless of how sentimental and nostalgic Smith fans may be.
      BTW, he was on a nationally syndicated radio show called
  "Modern Rock Live" last week. Did anyone out there get to hear it?
>=K=
   Al
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From: larson_s@apsicc.aps.edu (Shawn Larson)
Subject: James Brown is dead
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 23:48:00 GMT
Organization: Albuquerque Public Schools - Career Enrichment Center
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Does anybody out there know who does this song?  (it's techno music)

Shawn


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From: cflatter@nrao.edu (Chris Flatters)
Subject: Re: Jesus Lizard interview
Reply-To: cflatter@nrao.edu
Organization: NRAO
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:46:35 GMT


In article 13867@cs.tulane.edu, tceh000@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (eugene hopstetter) writes:
>Here's a description of my night with Jesus Lizard, Wednesday, August 
>12, 1992. 
>
>I interviewed David Yow and drummer Mac for about an hour, during my 
>show at WTUL, 91.5, New Orleans. I couldn't tape the interview, because 
>David had an advance cassette copy of their new lp _LIAR_, so the tape 
>deck was used up. 

Anyone know the release date for Liar?

	Chris Flatters
	cflatter@nrao.edu
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From: davisonj@bnr.ca (John Davison)
Subject: Re: Alter Images?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:21:54 GMT

In article <170t4uINN8tn@agate.berkeley.edu> jhuy@garnet.berkeley.edu (Jack B. Huynh) writes:
>	Does anyone have a clue about this group?

>Anyway, if anyone has a cd or record
>version of thier [sic] 2nd release (and willing to part with it) OR knows
>where I can get [it], please contact me. Thanks in advance!

        If you are feeling desperate, try Bill's Records in Dallas, Texas.
Last time I was there I saw a lot of (probably used) copies of many of their
records.

        Be prepared to shell out roughly $10 per record.


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From: chappy@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Doug R. Chapman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Pearl Jam: why do you hate them?
Date: 14 Aug 1992 13:53:56 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

What do I think of Pearl Jam?  I think about them the same as I did when
the album "Ten" first came out.  I don't understand why some people hate
a band just becasue they get played on top 40 radio.  I suppose some people
try too hard to be different from the mainstream crowd.

Anyway, I really like the rather dark mood of some of the songs.  I have
heard that Vedder used to be a night watchman (or some kind of job where 
he didn't gett much sleep) and that is how he found his style.


-- 
Doug Chapman
KSDB 91.9 Manhattan, KS.
From: graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Breeders - on letterman tonight!!!!
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:32:42 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <1992Aug14.092938.13294@u.washington.edu> hamrick@milton.u.washington.edu (Mike Hamrick) writes:
>
>It was worth putting up with Dave Letterman just to see the Breeders perform
>one song, even if it their worst song.  I really don't think "Sad About Us"
>is what the Breeders are all about, but whatever.  I think it was just Kim
>and Kelly on Letterman, they had some guy playing the timpani, who could
>have been the mysterious Mike Hunt, or perhaps his evil cousin Mike Hock.
>
>I guess I didn't quite remember how bad TV sucked, the Breeders only got
>to play one song.
>
Did anyone here Kelly's guitar? I heard one chord!! I thought that the song
was pretty good, but Paul & Co. drowned out everything.

Does anyone have a live tape of the Breeders' one concert which they did a
few months ago? I'd really like to trade for that! I've got a diverse list
of live tapes...I love trading - mainly because no good bands come to where
I live  :(

mike
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From: bharper@wam.umd.edu (Ben D. Harper)
Subject: Re: Pigface album (WASRe: New Nine Inch Nails Single ????)
Summary: Well, I beg to differ.
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 04:03:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.203540.21649@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> saxe_dh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dean H Saxe) writes:
>Yeah I would have to agree, I bought the album for the song "SucK" and that
>is just what the album does, it SUCKS!
>___________________________________________________________________

Well, as I understand it, Suck began life as a song writen by Trent for his
part in Pigface. It was done as a rather slow dirge on GUB. The version of
Suck that you seem to be so fond of (as am I) is found on the "Suck" bootleg
and posibly on some sampler. It is in a true NIN style. By the way, the "Suck"
boot also contains Trent singing Supernaut (A 1000 HomoDJs song) and is very,
very cool. You should all have it. I do.

	And as far as the Pigface disk "GUB" goes, it's unfair to say that it
sucks. You didn't like it, but it is probably not what you expected, and not
within your taste in music. I like GUB, but I'm into Industrial music. Trent
himself claims to do Industrial influenced pop. If you like Skinny Puppy, 1000
Homo DJs, Revolting Cocks, KMFDM, Foetus, (you get the picture) then you might
like Pigface. On the other hand, if you are expecting NIN-like stuff, you 
should maybe check out Machines of Loving Grace. Trent seems to like them allot,
and so do I (Avoid "Burn Like Briliant Trash" and get the single that contains
"All I really need").

As usual,
Ben D. Harper
Human / Computer Interaction Lab (west)
University of Maryland, College Park
bharper@wam.umd.edu

An Oregonian exiled in the east.

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From: ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing)
Subject: Re: IMAGES IN VOGUE (IIV)
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:58:38 GMT

quite probably they're defunct since their drummer went onto form Skinny Puppy.
they quite popular, at least round here, for a while, and then like idle eyes
faded into obscurity, tho if any one cares idle eyes are still around in one
form another since i found out at my uncle's wedding that i'm not related by
marriage to one of them :-)

corey

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From: wu@mdd.comm.mot.com (Philip Wu)
Subject: Re: Nirvana and Sonic Youth.. The connection..
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:44:51 GMT

In <1992Aug12.122149.3280@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:


>This was probably already dicussed and worn out, etc. etc., but don't
>flame me.

>I heard a rumor that Sonic Youth TOLD Geffen to sign Nirvana.

>Any truth to this rumor?

>I also heard that Butch Vig, who produced Dirty, wanted SY to do a song
>called, "Smells like Dirty Boots."  (:

I don't know, but a few years ago, I saw the Sonic Youth tour and Nirvana
opened.  I didn't know who Nirvana was but I remember one of them had
REALLY big feet.

Phil
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From: omri@crchh397.BNR.CA (Omri Gazitt)
Subject: Sonic Youth show in Houston
Reply-To: omri@crchh397.BNR.CA (Omri Gazitt)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:57:08 GMT




While I was in Houston for a weekend, I heard some advertisement on the
radio for a Sonic Youth show. Can any Houstonian mail me some info about it? I
wouldn't miss it for anything. Too bad we don't get Public News here in the
Big D...

Thanks a million,

-Omri (omri@rice.edu)


p.s. Please respond by mail since I rarely read this group (too much volume, 
too much work to do :-) )  but I will be glad to post any replies.




Omri Gazitt
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From: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Subject: Re: Nirvana and Sonic Youth.. The connection..
Reply-To: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 21:44:53 GMT


In a previous article, ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) says:

>
>This was probably already dicussed and worn out, etc. etc., but don't
>flame me.
>
>I heard a rumor that Sonic Youth TOLD Geffen to sign Nirvana.
>
>Any truth to this rumor?
>
Yup. After _Goo_ sold big, Geffen apparently asked the Youth to recommend
some new bands. They recommended Nirvana and Teenage Fanclub, both of whom
did well too (duh). And the cycle continues... Nirvana recommended Hole, and
who knows who they'll suggest... :)
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From: douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette)
Subject: Re: Buffy Soundtrack
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:59:09 GMT

In article <16br72INN3vu@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> chappy@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Doug R. Chapman) writes:
>We received the new soundtrack to Buffy the vampire slayer today.  Some of 
>the tracks are:

  [list deleted]
>
>I know that the Toad the Wet Sprocket song is new but does anyone else know
>about the other songs?
>
>Interesting note.  The song Teen Angst by Cracker is used in the TV promo but
>is not on the Soundtrack. hmmmmm...
>

  I don't know if it's on the sndtrk but my friend and I recognized the song
for the closing credits but couldn't place it for the longest time. It's an
Oingo Boingo song (We Close Our Eyes - I think) but was performed by someone
else. I think it's one of the Bangles - though I can't rememeber her name.
Just an interesting factoid.
-Daniel



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From: graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: PIXIES NEWS
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:23:59 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

In article <BsyC1v.7tL@cs.dal.ca> graham@ug.cs.dal.ca (Michael Graham) writes:
>
>ps - what are the pixies up to? taking a break from the U2 tour? are there
>any tour/album plans?
>-- 

Just found out after I posted that Black F. is working on a solo album, the
pixies are on hold and they will probably be back in action early next year.
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From: faubert@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (David M. Faubert)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Smiths haunt from the grave
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:57:20 GMT
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal

In article <kbennett.713572183@milton> kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess) writes:
>barryb@castle.ed.ac.uk (Barry A T Brown) writes:
>
>>Anyone heard something about The Smiths reforming for the gig they did
>>at the weekend with madness?  God save us if The Smiths reform, just think
>>of the effect on the suicide rate..
>
>Morrissey/Smiths when I'm in a *bad* mood, it actually makes me feel
>*better* instead of worse.  My theory is that I make a comparison between
>myself and Morrissey and find myself better off, and that cheers me up.
>
>Lena

This reminds me of a time I went camping with a couple of friends. We all
sat around a dying fire at three in the morning and listened to the same
Morrissey/Smiths tape over and over and over again. We were thoroughly
drunk and half-passed out in the middle of nowhere, with no sound but our
friend Morrissey crooning miserably in the night. "Some girls are bigger
than others" cheered things up occasionally, but "I never had no one ever"
made us all reach for the bottle. Then it started to rain. What a party!

For some reason, I have fond memories of this night. It was one of a kind!

I hope this starts a Smiths thread.

Later,

Dave
From: cqn1676@zeus.tamu.edu (CHINH QUOC NGUYEN)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: new order live
Date: 19 Aug 1992 15:27:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <LANCER.92Aug19093641@wpi.WPI.EDU>, lancer@wpi.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett) writes...
>Though I saw one concert where they weren't pissed...  On the substance
>tour in Connecticut, a friend of mine started singing "Happy birthday,
>Ian", since it was a couple of days from Ian Curtises birthday.  The band
>just stood there for a few minutes looking happy and sad at the same time,
>and then played a virtuoso performance without so much as a swear or a gulp
>of beer on stage!
> 
>Generally, though, Barney gets pissed, Steve & Gillian get annoyed at
>Barney, and Peter ignores them all.  At least thats what it looks like on
>stage every time I've seen them...

I saw them on the Technique tour in Houston and about the only things I 
remember hearing them say was "Hello, we're New Order" before opening with Round 
and Round and maybe a few thank you's.  Not any swearing that I can recall but 
then I have trouble wading thru his accent.  As a matter of fact, from what I 
remember they were just kinda there playing.  Steve was the only one that danced 
around and showed any excitement... Peter did go nuts on the drum kit at one 
point.  Gillian of course just stood there and played.  Barney wore out the 
his part of the floor from just singing and somewhat dancing in place in the 
same spot.  I was disappointed in the show but the music was excellent.

I've been wondering... from what I've been hearing about Barney getting 
toasted--is that why his voice sounds like it's cracking during live 
performances?  And why does he always sing with his eyes closed?  I also 
remember something I read a while back about him being partially deaf?

			-CN
From: gajarsky@pilot.njin.net (Bob Gajarsky)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: smiths/morrissey/stuff
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:54:28 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Hoboken



the smiths mailing loist is at.

gt7274c@prism.gatech.edu

it's been around a while - i think 2 years now?  

- bob gaj
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From: burger@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Schlossberg)
Subject: Re: NEW THREAD: Favourite Cure Song
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 15:12:39 GMT

In article <weYDhxm00WDKE5dW0v@andrew.cmu.edu> Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>
>How about this for a new thread... What is you favourite (and least
>favourite) Cure song?
>>
>
Favorite - Catch and Pictures of You (I think catch is #1 because its video is
 not completely stupid and inane like POY).

Least - All of "Wish" except A Letter To Elise; Subway Song (from 3 Imaginary
  Boys)


Scott
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From: v22964qs@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike Cluff)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Major Label Music is EVIL!
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:59:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1540@sousa.ltn.dec.com>, graziano@rocko.enet.dec.com (Rocko Graziano) writes...

>The only people I've known who dismissed bands when they 'sold out' were the
>people more interested in the act of being alternative than in the pursuit of
>finding and enjoying great music.

Yes!  It's become a knee-jerk reaction for those Hipper-Than-Thou -- Those
Trying So Hard To Be Avant-Garde.

Just because the Majors have a tendency to prefer crap doesn't mean that 
*everything* they release is crap.  

After all, when has the quality of music been an inverse function of the number
of people listening to it?  Hating music because more people like it is just as
mindless and reactionary as *liking* music because more people like it.  

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From: julie@danzig.micro.umn.edu (Julie Lindner)
Subject: Re: Gear Daddies
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 23:18:34 GMT

In <1992Aug20.214657.9221@news2.cis.umn.edu> prock@stingray.micro.umn.edu (Andrew Prock) writes:

>In article <1992Aug20.150207.6149@iscsvax.uni.edu> woodwick9526@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>HI, me again.  I was just wondering if anybody knows anything about the 
>>Gear Daddies ohter than the put out 2 albums, a 3 song 45 and they are
>>from the great town of Austin, Minn. 
>>                        Thanks 
>>                                woody

>The only other thing I know is that they broke up recently playing their
>farewell concert in Austin with a bunch of other bands on the bill.
>I missed tho..

The Austin concert was very good...although very muddy, with alot of
great music; most notably the set by Uncle Tupelo.  The Gear Daddies
played their "official" last concert this past Sunday (the 16th) at a
Minneapolis supper club, it was a great show!

The band also has material for a third album, which they were shopping
to the major labels before they decided to break up.  There hasn't
been any word on a possible release of this material, which is too
bad..I've heard it live and it's very good.








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