From: thood@corvus.matrox.com (Thomas Hood)
Newsgroups: can.general
Subject: Re: The right of Steven C Poter
Keywords: Right, Duty
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:57:27 GMT
Organization: Matrox Ltd.

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> original text              [translator's comments...       Vive le Net libre!]
= unauthorized translation   [~] [?] [??] approximate, uncertain, uncomprehended
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jmp@comback.uucp (Jean Marc Pigeon) writes:

>	I wrote the following mainly in french, (reason is explained in
>	the "PS"), I hope, at least some of, the English netlander will find
>	that interesting. :-}} do not give up the "PS of PS" is in English!


>	Tres chere Steven,
= Dear Steven,

>	J'ai lu attentivement vos derniers ecrits, je crains qu'ils
>	ne donnent raison aux tenants d'une loi 101 "pure et dure".
= I have closely read your last articles; I fear that they do 
= nothing but give support to supporters of Law 101, hard and pure.

>	Si je comprend bien, vous etes arrives au Quebec vers l'an de grace
>	1981, vous avez eu; en Angleterre; des entretiens en francais et 
>	en anglais, vous y avez ete loyalement prevenu qu'une part de votre
>	CONTRAT (votre emigration au Quebec) etait que vos enfants iraient
>	a l'ecole en francais.
= If I understand well, you arrived in Quebec in the year of Our Lord
= 1981; you had, in England, interviews in French and in English;
= you were carefully warned that one aspect of your CONTRACT (your
= emigration to Quebec) was that your children would be schooled
= in French.

>	Apres plus de 10 ans au Quebec, vous semblez decouvrir une profonde
>	injustice et crier a la persecution!
= After more than 10 years in Quebec, you seem to have discovered
= a profound injustice and are crying persecution!

>	Je suis surpris, tout ce passe comme si vous avez vecu au Quebec
>	en "vase clos" contemplant le "fait francais" du Quebec comme
>	un folklore riche et original. Vous semblez etre l'archetype du
>	"colonisateur britanique :-1/2}" (tel que decrit par les Quebecois
>	"pure laine"), il n'est pas question pour vous de vous adaptez 
>	aux coutumes de la "populace". Vous donnez, par le fait meme, raison
>	a ceux qui voient dans l'arsenal des lois 101 et 178 le seul
>	moyen de faire comprendre aux emigrants, que le Quebec est
>	aussi une culture (et pas seulement un archaisme folklorique).
= I am surprised, all this has happened as if you have lived in Quebec
= in an ivory tower, regarding the "French fact" of Quebec as a
= rich and original folklore.  You seem to be the archetype of a
= "British colonialist :-1/2}" (as described by pure-laine Quebecois).
= There is no question of adapting to the customs of the "populace."
= You give, by this fact alone, reason to those who see in the
= arsenal of laws 101 and 178 the only way to make emigrants
= understand, that Quebec is also a culture (and not just an folkloric
= archaism).

>	Mon sentiment est que: jusqu'a maintenant, vous avez ete capable
>	de vivre dans une "superbe ignorance", mais parceque vous enfants
>	sont obliges d'aller a l'ecole en francais, vous vous sentez une
>	sorte de demi membre de votre communaute; avez vous le sentiment
>	de ne plus faire pleinement partie de "l'elite"?
= My feeling is that: until now, you have been able to live in
= "blissful ignorance" [~], but because your children are obliged to
= go to school in French, you feel like a kind of half-member of your
= community; do you have the feeling of no longer being fully part
= of "the elite"?
>	
>	Nous pourrions debattre longtemps pour savoir si la majorite
>	de la population ne choisit pas une option "suicidaire" en
>	s'obstinant "au fait francais en nord Amerique", neansmoins en
>	tant qu'emigrant nous avons fait un choix; ce choix a pour corollaire
>	d'en assumer les devoirs, si dans le cas qui vous preoccupe, la
>	charge est trop lourde, vous pouvez toujours allez voir (comme le
>	dirait avec tant de grace Mr Chretien), les "Si Belles Montagnes
>	Rocheuses" de plus pres.
= We could debate a long time to decide whether the majority
= of the population would not choose a "suicidal" option in persisting
= as "the French fact in North America" [~]; nevertheless as an
= emigrant we have made a choice; this choice has as a corollary
= the assumption of duties; if in your case, the burden is too much,
= you can always go and see (as Mr. Chretien so gracefully said)
= the "beautiful Rockies" close up.

>	Je suis, dans mon propos, un peu dur j'en conviens, mais 
>	amicale quand meme, (je dois dire que certain de vos ecrits
>	me semblent (volontairement?) bien naifs et pas mal tendancieux).
= I am, in this case, a bit hard I admit, but still friendly.
= (I must say that some of your writings seem to me (deliberately?)
= pretty naive and quite tendentious).

>PS:
>	C'est volontairement que j'ai ecrit ce texte tout en francais,
>	je suppose qu'apres plus de 10 ans au Quebec vous avez une 
>	connaissance du francais autre que de niveau scolaire (et par le 
>	fait meme que vous n'etes pas un "colonisateur britanique" :-}} )
= PS:
= It is voluntarily that I have written this text all in French;
= I suppose that after more than 10 years in Quebec you have a
= knowledge of French higher than school-level (and by this fact
= alone that you are not a "British colonialist" :-}} )

>PS de PS:
>	I don't know if some other netlander feel the same way, but
>	I am really tired to see the word "My rights" written every
>	4 lines, but the word "my duty" never spelled (I am speaking
>	at large, not for Steven).
>
>	May be I am a little be "old fashionned" but I beleive
>	"right" and "duty" are two components in the same equation.
>
>Jean-Marc Pigeon			jmp@comback.uucp
>Pierrefonds, Quebec, Canada, Terra	jmp@sobeco.com

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Thomas Hood                                                    thood@matrox.com
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