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From: k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi)
Subject: Re: SEXISM IN JAPANESE WORKPLACE!!!!
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:10:26 GMT

cheung@CAM.ORG (Shirley Cheung) writes:

> I recently have read an article regarding to the Japanese work force. I
> found out that SEXISM has become less of a tradition but rather has become
> a serious social disease. Japaneses have greatly underestimated the power
> of the other half of the population and it is very stupid that they hold a
> sexist prejudice against this very powerful work force.
> 
> LESS THAN 3 % OF THE CORPORATE PROFESSIONAL JOBS ARE HELD BY WOMEN!!!!
> What kind of society is that? We are in 1992, aren't we? If the Japanese
> businessmen think that this is a tradition, then I should say "it is a
> tradition of Japanese to deprive womens' right!!!!<--------haha, what kind
> of traditon is that????
> 
Prejudice will not end soon.  3% actually sounds like a high figure to 
me.  At Shiseido, which is supposed to be one of the friendliest firms 
for women, 70% of the workplace is female, yet only 2% of the upper 
managerial ranks are occupied by women.

There are distinct career paths for men and women, and a prevalent notion 
that a women who is too educated is to be avoided.  For men, the ideal 
career path is 4 years at university followed by lifetime work at a big 
name company.  For women, it is expected that they will go to college 
(tandai) for 2 years, start working as an OL and quit after 5 years by 
getting married with a man within the firm.  In some cases, women are 
used as a means to attract men into the firm.  Try to get a copy of 
Dentsu's recruitment ad "The Working Girl".  It has a picture of a woman 
with various references like:
        "her hair is beautiful"
        "beautiful legs are muscular from meeting sponsors and directors"
        "has enough brains to give the appearance of intelligence"
Needless to say, it gets a lot worse than this.

Some changes are occurring as foreign firms are capitalizing on the 
situation by hiring lots of well-qualified women, but change will be 
slow.  

The above is the situation for Japanese women.  Foreign women are treated 
as foreigners, not as women.

If anyone is interested in the Dentsu ad as well as some other facts 
about the situation, try digging up copies of Newsweek around June or 
July.  There was one article that dealt with these issues.

k3amichi@student.business.uwo.ca (Kentaro Nakamichi)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
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From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Subject: Re: D O E S   A M E R I C A   S A Y   Y E S   T O   J A P A N ?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 13:07:40 GMT

maierj@edmund.cs.andrews.edu (Joey Maier) writes:
>>I know that it is not a reasonable comparison since English is my first
>>language and I have only been trying to learn Japanese for one year, but
>>2000 kanji seems like a hell of alot of literacy to me!

irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:>>
>To a foreigner trying to learn it, sure, but consider that English has
>over 100,000 words, about 10,000 are in common usage, with similar numbers
>for the Japanese, then knowing 2000 words in your first language may
>be considered very *basic* understanding.

Just a note: 2000 kanjis does not equal 2000 words.  While each kanji usually
can stand alone as a word, most Japanese words are made up from multiple 
(compound) kanjis plus the kana alaphabet.  Thus having a full knowledge of
all 2000 kanjis with its combinations would add up to a fairly sizable 
vocabulary.  

I don't know how Jp govnt defines literacy, but I'm sure its doesn't
require you to know all combinations.

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From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: Texas Southern University marching band in To^kyo^
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:23:55 GMT

Flame on.

I am made exceedingly angry at the thought that a person could be
mollified by the fact that it was only a particular race whose
reputation was damaged by these students.

Flame off.

Charlie R.

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From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Nippon and S. Korea
Date: 14 Dec 92 00:21:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.0f=60se00iUyA0eKNW
Distribution: soc
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Friends,

        I think that it was very funny to see Nippon's Prime Minister
and S. Korea's President confiming that it best for the U.S. military to
stay in the area because they offer stability because of N. Ko-ryo(as a
nuclear threat). If Nippon can have nuclear "applications" then so must
N. Ko-ryu! We are not better
than they! They are not better than us!  We live in the same boat! As
matter of fact, they should be more terrorified of us(enlight of our
history) than we of them. I thrust Hangul. If they haven't lomb multiple
warheads on us by now they
probably won't be going to. Let me tell you what will happen(for, I have
not doubt). The Clinton Administration will pull be a great deal of it
military support from Asia. Now, let deal!
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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 13:51:10 GMT
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk
To: usenet@phaze.cam.org
Cc: 
Subject: Re: is there a RAVE scene in Japan?

In article <1992Dec9.041840.18657@uvm.edu> you write:
>from Japan, and I know that punk (more or less) caught on for a while,
>so has rave gotten there yet? Or hip-hop/rap?

Certainly hip-hop/rap is there. I remember Takagi Kan's "Fruit of the
Rhythm" was released late '90 or early '91. I saw this described as 
Japan's "First" Hip-Hop album, but suspect the reality is that it was
the "First" one on a major label (SONY?).

Probably there are quite a few more by now, does anyone know if Kan
has a second album out yet?

I didn't get to see the live hip-hop scene, so can't comment on it.

Oh, before I forget, if you like De La Soul/Jungle Brothers/etc you might
like Kan. It's actually one of my favourite Hip-hop albums. The first half
is funky, and the second half more soulful (on average). Not too many sampled
beats, most sound like original programmes. He samples the Sex Pistols a 
bit. Q-Tip guests on it (ummm, I *think* it was Q-Tip).

Cheers,

Ross-c
From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Top 10 Excuses by the TSU band for Shoplifting in Akihabara.
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:06:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec15.230652.26138
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I hope the following doesn't come across as too pointed.  It's my
attempt at a David Letterman style humor :-)


Top 10 Excuses by the TSU band for Shoplifting in Akihabara.

10. Oh no, I guess we're not in Kansas, ... errr Texas.
9.  I guess it fell into the bag.
8.  They had soooo many neat-o gadgets!
7.  Showed them! "No Gaijin" my o-ketsu!
6.  We're a band member. What do you expect?
5.  We were teaching them the American way.
4.  All those darn mochi's.  So sticky!
3   We were doing our bit to reduce the trade imbalance.
2.  I thought it was duty ... *free*!  Duty ... *free*!

And #1 excuse by the TSU band for shoplifting in Akihabara:

1.  Knee-hongow wahkairey mahsein!
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:12200 talk.politics.guns:25116
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Yoshi Hattori
Date: 10 Dec 92 22:46:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.0f_5Jq600iV280Z0hk
	<1992Dec10.173458.5666@netcom.com>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. Theodroopouulos writes:

> 
>my god. 

"my" and "god" are suppose to start with capital letters. "My God". Did
you know that this is a phase?
>a lengthy screed on proper use of commas, written in some of the worst 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>english i've ever seen. never mind that the writer is incorrect in his
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^       
(This is the proper use of commas)
presumptions of proper use of commas. 
>and while i'm willing to give slack to someone who is still learning the
>language, it strikes me as at once arrogant and pitiful to read such
>misinformed nonsense written under the pretense of being a lesson in proper
>english!
> 
> 
>i can only hope that it was meant as a joke....
> 

( I can see that you are too lazy or (as in my case) not that fimilar
with the   
keyboard. I say this because of your lack in capitalizing letters that
begin a sentence).
> 
> 
> 
> 
>-- 
>paul theodoropoulos     damiel@netcom.com     (hooools@well.sf.ca.us)
>       Cosysop - Threat Management Institute BBS 707 935 1713 
 
No, this is not a joke. I'm as serious as a heart attack!!! By the way, I see
that your family name implies that you are Greek! This is great! I like
that Greek culture especially the wine and the food! "Threat Management
Institute",
I'm not fimilar with this Institution. Could you please email me the "oop scoop
on the doop poop". (Lil Andre taught me that)!
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:38:38 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.


=> In article <1992Dec16.014403.2407@cirrus.com> dhesi@cirrus.com 
=(Rahul Dhesi) writes:

=> >And they would have a LOT to save and invest if they were not paying
=> >around 60% of their earnings in taxes.  THAT is a real problem.

Brent Irvine writes:
=> What tax braket are *you* in?  I end up paying 30%[federal] + 7% [fica] +
=> 3% [state] = 40% in taxes.

Oh... only 40%? That's much better :-) 

Don't forget your company also pays unemployment tax based on your salary,
and many people pay property tax of a couple of grand or so around here.
Plus, if you smoke, drink, drive a car (gas & excise), sleep in hotel,
use an airport, etc. Oh yeah... does your state have a sales tax?
Mine does... 3%. And a restaurant tax... 5%. And our income tax
(this is Taxachusetts) is 6%. 60% might be a little high, but not so
much for some people.

In any case, when people treat 40% taxes as a mere pittance, we may
be in for serious trouble.

- Bill Lambert
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From: masuda@fcs280b.ncifcrf.gov (Michiaki Masuda)
Subject: What would you want as souvenir from Japan?
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:56:10 GMT

  I am planning to go to Japan in coming January and will stay there for
a few weeks.

  I am thinking of getting some omiyage for my American colleagues and
friends. Although some people seem to be interested in Japanese traditional
paper/wooden crafts, others don't. I wonder what could be appreciated
as nice souvenir from Japan. 

  As I understand it, there are quite a few American netters in this group
who visited Japan before or had some cultural interaction with Japan(ese). 
Therefore, I'd like to ask a big favor of you.

  "What would you want as souvenir from Japan?"

  "What attracted your attention or interest most in Japan?" 

  "What would be the most 'Japanese' souvenir for Americans (or for you)?"

  "What was the most memorable Japanese souvenir?"

  As my budget is not so profuse and I'm thinking of buying rather many 
pieces of omiyage in order for me to use some of them as a birthday gift
and some such, something with a reasonable price (less than 3,000 yen? 
500-1,500 yen is preferable) and a reasonable size should be fine.

  I'd appreciate it if you could post your reply or respond by e-mail by
January 8, 1993 (I'm leaving on Jan. 9).
  If I receive a significant number of replies, I'll summarize them.

  Thanks in advance for your cooperation.

--Michiaki
From: mmigdol@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (michael a migdol)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Top 10 Excuses by the TSU band for Shoplifting in Akihabara.
Date: 20 Dec 92 02:43:46 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Dec16.022506.1225@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>In article <hit.724465319@sol> hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe) writes:
[Quoted stuff deleted]
>
>Among educational institutions, it is ranked close to last in academics.
>On the other hand, it is also one of the poorest universities in the USA.
>

    If I remember correctly, they won some sort of World Debate competition
earlier this year. Maybe they convinced the police in Akihabara that they
were just *borrowing* the electronics. :)

-Michael

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From: tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan)
Subject: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:08:07 GMT

irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:

>You forget also, that much of that pricing is mercantilist - so low that
>their margins are mere slivers [though behind trade barriers in Japan,
>they charge a WHOLE LOT MORE, getting HUGE margins to make up for the losses
>in the US], and thereby drive all competitors out of buisiness.  When this
>happens, they then can raise prices [no domestic competition, see?] and
>then seek further markets to plunder.  SO goes the theory.

What next stories about "Godzilla" ?  You appear to be reading some
propaganda from Lee Iacocca and then tripling the numbers and exaggerated
claims.

Here's something you seem to ignore.  The world is not made up of just
the U.S. and Japan... take a geography course since economics isn't
sinking in.
>
>What tax braket are *you* in?  I end up paying 30%[federal] + 7% [fica] +
>3% [state] = 40% in taxes.

Again failure to think has its inevitable affect.  You also pay for every
corporate tax on goods and services (you do realize the price reflects
all their expenses right ?) and you pay sales tax on the goods you buy.

tom

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From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,talk.politics.guns
Subject: Re: Yoshi Hattori
Date: 14 Dec 1992 21:49:12 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
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In article <Ef_fE1i00iV144SjxH@andrew.cmu.edu>, ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
> Don't fuck with me man!

> But, let me say this, KEEP F**KIN' ME!

And when you do, boys, remember:

> Yes, I do ! I like the Greek Culture! Now, what's wrong with that?
-- 

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OR cdt@vos.stratus.com        write today for my special Investors' Packet...

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:51:51 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Drew Days III

Friends, 

         This is to congraduate Drew Days III on being chosen the head
the civil rights section of the Justice Department. Most of you should
know this indidvidual. He held a position with the Carter Adminstration
and I'm sure he'll be more everything once he get there!!!!! Finish,
this later!
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From: billd@gdstech.GRUMMAN.COM (Bill D'Camp)
Subject: Re: The Beauty of Hangul: A few National Living Teasures...
Organization: Grumman Corporation
	<9212131063@ritz.mordor.com> <wf=3yJq00iV145CS8R@andrew.cmu.edu>
	<kf=5dQi00iUyA0eIlX@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:37:06 GMT

In article <kf=5dQi00iUyA0eIlX@andrew.cmu.edu> ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
(surprisingly gracious comments about some Korean artisans deleted)

>	    I learned alot during this research.  For instance, Cheju
>   Island and that Chusok is a  Hangul Thankgivings Day! I learned much
>   more also. I am happy
>   about this. *^-^*

What you didn't learn in your research is that Hangul is the Korean
alphabet, not anyones name for the country.





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From: smittie@csulb.edu (Smittie)
Subject: Re: Not a myth at all
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
	<1l#@byu.edu><1992Dec14.172420.1302@island.COM><1992Dec16.085615.10353@westford.ccur.com>
	<HARKCOM.92Dec17081826@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp>
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:00:49 GMT

>   If it were a question of citizenship then 'nationalism' might be a
>better term, but since this is a question of race then it would be
>better to call it 'racism'...

As proof of Mr. Harkcom's point here consider this. If I were to naturalize as
a Japanese citizen most Japanese would still use the term gaijin to describe
me even though I am a Nihonjin.

smittie
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From: jcliu@four-lab4.Berkeley.EDU (James C. Liu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Education (was: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN?)
Date: 18 Dec 1992 18:57:47 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Nuclear Engineering
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In article <1992Dec18.122058.27700@Csli.Stanford.EDU> hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU 
(Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:

  >Of the some 140 units required for graduation (1 unit roughly corresponding
  >to a 1 hour per week, 1 semester course); about 8 units each as minimum are
  >required to be taken from courses categorized as humanities, social
  >sciences, and natural sciences (including math).  Further requirements

How many units are a class on the average?  

Our courses average around 3.5 units each.  Usually there's a requirement 
of around 18 units of humanities and social sciences for the technical 
majors, of which 8 units or so must be upper division.  I'm not as familiar 
with the liberal arts majors, but they also have a minimum technical 
requirement which can be easily satified by some very simple courses.  
There seems to be a disparity in the requirements.  The technical majors 
are required to take the same courses as the liberal arts majors, both in
lower and upper division.  However, the liberal arts majors are offered
a series of courses that are exclusively for them.  For example, there
is a course called Physics 10 - Physics without math.  What is Physics
if with out at least the Newtonian calculus that goes with it?  We're
talking Berkeley...There are also other courses designated as
basket-weaving 10, or something something 10.  All pretty bonehead.
And this is UC BERKELEY!  

Well, enough of my liberals arts bashing...I just wanted to express 
my feeling of superiority over those guys who have all the time
to waste away ...until final exams of course :-). 

  >Personally, I agree with Justin Sullivan that general education is
  >a waste of time.

I think having a broad education is good.  I disagree that its a waste
of time...However, I think there should be equal if not more emphasis 
on technical requirements.

Jaa, James
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From: tleylan@pegasus.com (Tom Leylan)
Subject: Re: DOES AMERICA SAY YES TO JAPAN? - Off track!!
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 20:19:09 GMT

irvine@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Brent Irvine) writes:

>[Note I am not BLAMING Japan for manufacturing desirable goods, just the
>practices that the economic policies encourage are not in the best interests
>of Japanese Economic health nor are they in her trading partners]

Brent: Surely the powers that control Japanese economics should hear about
what you've figured out.  Failure to show them your charts and graphs and
keen insight into their long-term economic "best-interests" would border
on criminal... I mean you might save hundreds of thousands of lives and
the world would be a better place.

You're probably aware (since you know so much) that some Japanese companies
have 200 and 400 year business plans.  Not 5 year plans, not 20 year plans
so if your graph doesn't extend out that far you had better rethink it.

tom
From: mauritz_c@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Good-bye IBM
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:58:24 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <of=wmX600Vp_EQNXU_@andrew.cmu.edu>, ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
> Good-bye IBM,
>                       
>                                          You will join the great ones
> Pam Am,  U. S. Steel, Saks  Fifth Ave., ect.,  ect., and ect. but don't
> us{Asians} for your death! Blame Reaganomical!  Soon it will be
> Westinghouse,  GM, Alcoa, Pittsburgh Plate and Glass . No wait- Alcoa is
> doing something in Kobe and PPG in building a plant in China. So, they
> are the smart ones.

As usual, you find a way to bring race into this issue.  What a sad
sight you are.  Why would anyone blame "asians" for poor strategic
planning of IBM?  

Don't forget those others like Itoman, Tokyo Sagawa Kyubin....and soon
to be in the outhouse are Nippon Credit Bank, Long-Term Credit Bank of
Japan, Fuji Bank, Sumitomo Bank, Yamaichi Securities and many smaller
regional banks.  Japan's troubles in the financial services community
are just beginning. If you are very lucky, the big manufacturing companies
will be able to live on the fat they stored up in the booming 1980's
since bank lending has virtually dried up (very difficult to continue 
R&D and make capital expenditures without any capital, eh?).  If you
are not very lucky (and this is the most probable outcome), it will
require a big government bailout similar to the S&L bailout in the
US, except on a per capita basis it will be much more expensive for
Japan to clean up its financial mess.  Japan will be cleaning this
up for the next 3-5 years and Japan's economy (compared to its
performance in the 80's) will be very slow.
 
And just in case you are wondering where my information is coming
from, I have been working for one of the largest Japanese financial
institutions for the last 3 years and I am now in charge of the
Latin American Business Promotion area.  In this position, I have
the occasion to talk to Japanese bankers all the time (off the
record after a few litres of sake) and they all warn me that all
of the recent scandals and reports about poor asset quality of
Japanese financial companies has only barely scratched the 
surface.  Even the Ministry of Finance has admitted that they have
no idea how bad the situation really is because of very lax/easy
reporting requirements from the MoF.
 
Anyway, I have rambled enough for now...
 
Cheers,
 
Chris

p.s.  I hope you solve your personal problems that are causing you
      to behave in such an irrational and bigoted manner.
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