From: stu5s14@bcrka287.bnr.ca (James Cherry)
Subject: K. Cochran is still a homophobe
Followup-To: alt.flame
Originator: stu5s14@bcrka287
Keywords: K. Cochran, homophobe, homophobia
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:57:46 GMT


In article <l9a45vINNdig@news.bbn.com>, levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) posts:

>stu5s14@bcrka287.bnr.ca (James Cherry) writes:
[my THIRD Keith Cochran quote deleted]
>
>|I didn't see the whole of the original post which your second quotation
>|above comes from, so it may be out of context.
>
>No kidding.
>
>If you had taken your time and looked around instead of jumping in
>feet first with your eyes shut, you might have known something about
>Keith so you might understand that he is not a homophobe.
>

Sorry, Mr. Levin.  I didn't have to look very far to see that Mr. Cochran
is _clearly_ a homophobe.  As I said before, and which you have yet to
disprove with any cogency, Mr. Cochran using anal sex as an insult clearly
demonstrates his homophobia.  All it took was those two lines from his
post.

Furthermore, in your response, you quote from my post the third of Mr.
Cochran's replies to Kevin Darcy, then admonish me for taking things
out of context.  The quote that _I_ admitted might be out of context was
the _second_ quote that I listed in my original posting, from article
<1992Aug12.015507.4422@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>:

>Um, Kevin.  Go find your mother, and ask her to explain what the word
>"homosexual" means.  I'll even give you a *FREE* clue.  I don't hate
>myself.

The other two quotes in my original post were most certainly in context.

From your article again:

>Here's an additional clue: the references to anal sex are intended for
>homophobes like kevin whose sphincters tighten in terror at the
>thought of anything remotely like a penis being inserted into their
>own anal passages, or who fear even the remotest possibility that they
>might want such a thing.
>
>Keith as a self-hating homosexual, indeed.  HAH!

I'm glad you're so up on Mr. Cochran's intentions.  And, um, what, pray
tell, did "kevin" [sic] post that might lead you to believe _he_ is a
homophobe?  I think you've lost me on that one.  I guess you were never
the captain of the Debating Team.

You also seem to confuse "homophobic" with "homosexual".  I don't recall
anyone accusing Mr. Cochran of being homosexual, and even if they did, I'm
not accusing him of this.  He is, however, a homophobe.


Then, in article <94422@bu.edu>, kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star)
says:

>Perhaps, Mr Cherry, if you would ask Mr Cochran of his sexual orientation,
>you would be better apprised of the nature of his postings.

What has Mr. Cochran's sexual orientation to do with his homophobia?
Suppose I ask Mr. Cochran what is orientation is.  And suppose he says
he's homosexual.  Then why would he use homosexual anal sex as an insult
to others?  This would be pretty self-defeating of him.  Now suppose he
says he's heterosexual.  How does this disprove that he's a homophobe?
I'm afraid, Mr. Kane, that you too have yet to refute my argument of
Mr. Cochran's homophobia.


Lastly, in article <Aug.24.17.39.24.1992.26879@romulus.rutgers.edu>,
aldis@romulus.rutgers.edu (Theodore A. Kaldis) writes:

>              If homosexuality were merely aberrant behavior, we
>would (for the most part) be able to ignore it -- if only homosexuals
>did not have this most bothersome habit of thrusting themselves upon
>us.  But anal "sex" is, essentially, _destructive_ behavior, and thus
>it becomes society's problem as well.

I have heard of others claiming that homosexuals "thrust themselves
upon us".  Personally, I've never really noticed this.  However, I
suppose gay parades and the like are the things to which you are refer-
ring.  But, is it wrong for blacks to march to end racism?  For women
to march to end sexism?  Are you, Mr. Kaldis, so closed-minded that you
cannot try to see others' viewpoints?  Apparently you are, towards homo-
sexuals at least, as is clearly evident in your post from a couple of
days ago when you espoused violence against homosexuals.

As well, you speak of homosexuality as "aberrant behavior".  Who are
you to define which behavior is aberrant and which isn't?  You might
be interested to know that homosexuality is no longer considered a
disease by the American College of Physicians.  I'm concerned that
my responding to this will lead into a huge debate on, "Homosexuality:
is it right or wrong?" which is not really my intention here.  How-
ever, I feel there is _no_ valid ground for those who think "Homosexu-
ality is wrong" to stand on.  I think you need to learn to be more
tolerant.

Also, do you consider heterosexual anal sex destructive behavior?  If
not, then what makes homosexual anal sex destructive and heterosexual
anal sex not?  If so, then how is heterosexual anal sex destructive?

-- 
James A. Cherry                                   Bell Northern Research Inc.
"Can't you little sheep think for yourselves?!" - The Hipster   (613)763-3019