From: kcochran@isis.cs.du.edu (Keith A. Cochran)
Subject: Re: The Right to Exist 
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Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 23:45:06 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.155502.12298@ncsu.edu> dsh@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>The right to exist is supreme above all other rights. Without the
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Documentation?
>right to exist, no other rights are possible, including the right
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Documentation?
>to freedom. Without existence, freedom is not possible. All humans
>should have an equal right to exist, and since the right to exist
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Very true.  But, when some asshole
comes after my boyfriend with a knife, you can be damm sure that I'm
going to chuck any "right to exist" that he might have out the window...
>is supreme, no human can deny another human the right to exist,

             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
And what planet are you living on??????
>unless their own existence is threatened. 

So, if it's known 4 weeks into the pregnancy that carrying the fetus to term
will kill the woman 90% of the time, she can have an abortion?  How about
20% of the time?  50%?  What if nothing goes wrong with the pregnancy until
the 20th week?
>
>The right to exist includes the right not to be killed by others, 
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Can I have some of whatever it is you're smoking???
>and the right to receive support from others, but it does not 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^I mean, you're not just living
in orbit, you're living in orbit past Pluto!
>necessarily include the right to expect support from others. 
>
>The fetus either has rights, or it does not. If the fetus has any 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^The world is not black and white,
it's a whole bunch of shades of grey.  WHICH rights does the fetus have?  And
when?
>rights, then it must have the right to exist, and this right is 
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Wrong.  Wrong.  Wrong.
>equal to that of any other human being.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^Wrong.  Wrong.  Wrong.
>
>Abortion kills the fetus, and it prevents the fetus from receiving
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^No shit, sherlock.
54a

Well, as far as I know, the ONLY support a fetus can receive until it's born
is the support of the WOMAN WHO IS CARRYING IT.  It's not like, oh, forget it.
You wouldn't see a pregnant woman if she came up and kicked you in the balls.
All you'd see is your Holy Fetus.
>support from others. Therefore, abortion violates the right 
>of the fetus to exist.
>



Please show why a fetus should be able to obtain more rights than the woman
who is carrying it.  Please show that a fetus should have any rights at all.

Please show that you've bothered to think even once in your life.
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