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In article <1992Oct1.155825.21945@shearson.com> scarrobi@shearson.com writes:
>I think this was one of the best space -cowboy pictures around ... 
			          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Are there others?!!! :)

>i live in brooklyn,ny...
>does anyone know where i can rent it ..
>i have seen it countles times but always wanted to add it to my library...
>unfortunatelty it seeems to have disappeared from the shelves .. i go into vid stores and nothing ... 
>i would appreciate any feed back ... 
>
You can order it from Movies Unlimited (800)523-0823

>  Steve C.
>
>P.S. how did you like it as a movie ?
>
Don't get me started on Peter Hyams, or MovieSlayer as I like to call him!  

All IMHO naturally

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Hey, lets get started on Peter Hyams.  I think he has no business having 
anything to do with the movie business.  One thing that might make it 
all fit: before moving to Hollywood he was a local news anchor person
here in Chicago.  He stunk at that and certainly stinks at movie making.
His first film was T.R. Bascom starring Candice Bergan. I believe she was
an extremely hot property at the time and of course thanks to Peter Hyams
heavy handed, artistically comatose direction the picture flopped.
Also worth mentioning: 2010, The Eagle has Landed, pictures so bad I wanted
to chew a hole through the theater seat.

Don't get me started on Peter Hyams!
From: chrisb@lynx.ps.uci.edu (Chris Barrus)
Subject: Blade Runner Sequel (?!)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Organization: Dept. of Physics, Univ. of California, Irvine
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:29:34 GMT


Not to add fuel to the ongoing _BR_ flamage, but in last Sunday's Los Angeles
Times, Ridley Scott admitted that he wants to film a sequel to Blade Runner
to (and I'm garbling the exact quote here) further explore Deckard's
character.

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From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Incept dates, morphology
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:25:45 GMT
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.


One thing I was curious about after thinking about it bit is the
whole thing about a 4 year life span. Bryant implies that Tyrell corp
were afraid the replicants would start developing their own emotions,
so therefore they built them with a 4 year life span. Yet it is later
implied that Rachel has no built-in life span since she was an experiment.
And then, when Roy meets Tyrell, the way they argue about morphology
('potent mutagenic agent') seems to imply that the 4 year life span
was caused by the manufacturing process, and trying to change that process
to increase the life span is not possible.

The only thing I could think of is that perhaps once the replicants
were manufactured with the 4 year life span, there was no way they could
be altered to increase their life span. Comments ?
From: kilgore@wuntvor.pillar.com (Stan Hall)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Highlander TV Series?
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 13:36:00 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Eternal Apprentice BBS, Norman, OK

rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki) writes:
> >
> It hasn't been publicized too much. In San Diego, Ca I believe its going to
> show KTTY one of our independent stations.
> 


    Well it was shown Saturday in my area and it was okay.  I wasn't overly
    impressed.  You gotta love having Richard Moll (Bull from night court)
    as the bad guy (especially when he has hair).  I really can't imagine
    what the dirrection of the show is going to be.  Are they just going
    to hack a head off of an evil immortal every week?  I'll be watching.


    Kilgore




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From: C09615DK@wuvmd.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: RE: The worst movie of all time...
Date: 2 Oct 92 03:23:02 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD

Actually, the movie I have in mind was quite hilarious (due to being quite
stupid), but I figured I'd throw my 2 cents in anyway.

The name is TerrorVision, and it's bad, and I mean real, REAL bad :-(.
;-)

--Dan K
From: SDENARO@vm.poly.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: How did Leon get the gun? What happened to it?
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:54:22 GMT
Organization: Polytechnic University

Just saw the DC.
 
How did Leon get a gun? What happened to the gun after he shot
Holden and ran off?
 
OK, Roy and Zhora were both built for combat, They could get at
guns in their line of work. They probibly used them for their
escape. Why would they dump the guns?
 
Leon is dumb, He keeps his back to an open alley when he knows
there are cops around. Why did he not grab the gun? He should
have tossed Decker aside, then gotten the gun.
 
also, IMHO Gaff is the real Blade Runner, He tells Decker "To
bad she won't live, but then again who(Decker) does?"
 
I think that Decker is a standard Issue Police Replicant. (say
nexus 5) He is given implants of a failed relationship and a
drinking problem. He has nothing to live for. That's why he does
it. Gaff is trained on how replicants think. He can predict every
thought and every action. Then when they finish their police work,
he retiers them. That way fewer humans get killed.
 
That would also explain why Decker and Holden look so much alike.
They are both Tyrell Model N5 police replicants. (look it up in
the Tyrell catalog)
 
Just a thought...
 
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SAL DENARO      "Live Fast, Die Young, Hack 'C'"
sdenaro@polyvm.poly.edu    sdenaro@polyvm.bitnet
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From: donnell@barnacle.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: The ultimate movie/Street Trash
Keywords: Melt
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:00:25 GMT

In article <sprooney.717875543@unix1.tcd.ie> sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney) writes:
>>>WOW! I am impressed.
>>>		STREET TRASH
>>>		 -It melts-
>>>
>>>Fall to your knees and praise it.
>
>>Oh please. "subtle intricacies of the plot were superbly contrasted by the
>>masterful camera work blah blah blah".
>>We all know you just liked watching the bums dissolve and the game of
>>keepaway played in the junkyard with the guys JOhn Thomas.
>>It is a fun family film, for extremely dysfunctional families.
>OK, OK so it;s true. I DO love watching people melt, but it's fun to
>see it done in the movies every once in a while.
>BTW, About the plot, did you see one? I think I must have dropped in
>on the way home.


I still say the most amazing thing that ever passed through my VCR, was
a double bill of "El Topo" and "Holy Mountain". YOW!
I did see glimmers of a plot in "Street Trash", but it didn't get in the
way or anything. Don't worry about not noticing. 
My vote for most disgusting thing to happen in or around a toilet has to go
to an early Gwar video I saw a clip of. Slymenstra was chainsawing a toilet
 while the band danced and vomited into the night. Interesting...

BTW, what was the name of the cheap booze that was dissolving people?
I always wanted to fake a bottle of that stuff for my bar/liquor cabinet.
heh

					--Judex--

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From: Richard A. Swift <Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu>
Subject: Re: Deckard as 6th Replicant doesn't hold water
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F4D6FF5202401C@rswift.aero.nd.edu>
X-Xxdate: Sun, 4 Oct 92 23:14:39 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Aero. & Mech. Eng.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:09:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.203556.24964@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> Doug S. Caprette
Bldg. 28 W191 x3892, dsc@gemini.tmc.edu writes:
>>Rachel is explicitly referred to as nexus 6, and she appears as human or
>>more human than Deckard. She certainly doesn't appear to be superstrong.
>>This supports the idea that memory implants reduce apparent strength.
>>

This is the most "assuming assumption" that I have seen in a long time.
From my way of thinking, if the Tyrell Corp. can design superior physical
specimens, than an "average" human specimen should be old hat to them
(memory implant or not). 

As for the concept of Decker being the 6th replicant, there is no
indication of this from the behavior of the other 5, who I would think
would show some recognition to him (I suppose major plastic surgery on
Decker will be the next "assuming assumption").
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Rich Swift    
                      Hessert Center for Aerospace Research
                              University of Notre Dame
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:36:05 EDT
From: Todd Bobenrieth <TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The ultimate movie/Street Trash
 <1992Sep30.080624.823@news2.cis.umn.edu> <sprooney.717875543@unix1.tcd.ie>
 <1992Oct1.140025.16307@news2.cis.umn.edu>

The liquor was called Viper.  It had a plain generic label with the product
name and I believe a lightning bolt, maybe two.
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Ambiguity in BR
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:23:20 GMT
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <1992Sep25.182724.18404@CERIS.Purdue.EDU>, tfisher@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Tom Fisher) writes:
|> >                                                 Now, the two most
|> > important problems are gone (the voice-overs and the absurd ending).
|>                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> 
|> Why are the voice-overs such a *BIG DEAL PROBLEM* for so many
|> people?

They are not that big deal. I thought I'd miss the voice over in the DC a lot but I didn't. The thing is, after you've seen the film a few zillion
times like I and others have, you get used to certain things, like the
voice over and when it is removed ... you miss it. Also, the voice-over
is very typical of film-noir, check out films based on Raymond Chandler
(The Big Sleep, The Long Goodbye, etc.) and Dashell Hammett (The Maltese
Falcon etc.). I can't remember if all of them have voice-overs, but
many do because the books were originally written in a first person
narrative style.

I still missed some of the lines like 'Skin job. He was the kind of guy you
who in history books used to call people niggers'. It immediately gives
you an insight into Bryant's character doesn't it ? 
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: esrag@warwick.ac.uk (Mr W M D Wright)
Subject: Re: Circuitry Man & Biggles
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:00:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.133721.20772@bmerh85.bnr.ca> shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
>
>I saw this movie at my local rental store. Sounds interesting.
>Is it any good ? Also, does anyone know about a movie called
>_Biggles_ ? Some guy in  a helicopter going back to World War I
>to help (similarity in plot to The Final Countdown). Any comments,
>ie. is it worth renting, would be appreciated !


Don't know about Circuitry Man, but if you've ever read any of the Biggles
books by W.E.Johns, then avoid the Biggles film. Compared to the books, it
sucks. Otherwise, it's quite a silly romp!!!

Bill

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From: donnell@mantaray.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: The worst movie of all time...
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:24:57 GMT
Organization: none

In article <46@abcom.ATT.COM> jpg@abcom.ATT.COM (John P. Gorga) writes:
>Quite simply... _The Incredible Shrinking Woman_ starring Lilly Tomlin
>and if memory serves me correclty some guy in an Ape suit.
>

Actually, the guy playing Sydney the Ape, was Academy Award winning 
special effects artist, Rick Baker. Really!

					--Judex--
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu)
Subject: stuff
Reply-To: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:59:41 GMT

	1. The Highlander TV series premiered Saturday night, right before
Star Trek. It really didn't look very good, although to be sure, I wasn't
watching too carefully. I liked the first Highlander movie and didn't see
the second. All I can say is that, if Christopher Lambert calls that a
Scottish accent, he is sadly mistaken. A native Scotsman would have a much
thicker accent. Then again, if he's lived for so long and, presumably,
been a part of other cultures, it'd make sense that the accent has been
cannibalized a bit.
	2. CLOCKWORK ORANGE...agh. I had a 13-year-old camper who was totally
hooked on either the book or the movie, not sure which, But anyways, he
tromped around camp for five weeks in his Docs and his Army jacket, being
flagrantly anti-social. Sweet kid, eh?
	3. Anyone ever seen "Infra-Man"? I mention it because I'm reading "At
The Mountains Of Madness" and I distinctly remember a Cthulhoid creature in
"Infra-Man".
					Rosaleen
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@barnacle.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Karen Carpenter Film
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:29:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.082350.830@ugle.unit.no> gsifk@termo.unit.no (Geir Skaugen) writes:
>--In article <Oct01.055013.48093@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, lagman@CS.ColoState.EDU (annette) writes: 
>|> In article <iroderic.717897819@cunews> iroderic@alfred.carleton.ca (Ian Roderick) writes:
>|> >In <1992Sep30.195706.22382@morrow.stanford.edu> AH.PBL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Mark) writes:
>|> 	I may be wrong, but I think its called SUPERSTAR.  
>|> 
>|> 
>
>It is called: "THE KAREN CARPENTER STORY" 
>I know there are video-copies for sale (NTSC-versions), the film was discussed 
>on the net some time back.
>
>For more info on the film check out old issues of FILM THREAT (1988 or 1989,
>they had a feature of it 
>
>By the way: It is an excellent film, I remember seeing it at the Scala Cinema 
>in London back in 1988 Very "funny".

I think you are both right. Wasn't it "SuperStar: The Karen Carpenter Story"?
Sounded really unique, and it had to be better than the TV version...

					--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: montyb@alpha.aosg.gsf.dec.com (Monty C. Brandenberg)
Subject: Re: A CLOCKWORK ORANGE
Organization: AOSG
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:49:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.144214.2148@panix.com>, fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
|> In <1992Oct5.111742.14824@alf.uib.no> s084@brems.ii.uib.no (Jon) writes:
|> 
|> >And if you like Malcom McDowell, you ought to see Caligula.  Those two are
|> >the only two decent he has hade.  To my knowledge.
|> 
|> Don't forget "If" and its two sequels "O Lucky Man" and "Brittania
|> Hospital" (That last title may be wrong).

Yes, "O Lucky Man" is an interesting and amusing movie.  Another that I
haven't seen is "Flashman" based on one or more of Frazer's Flashman
novels.  This isn't available in the US but does anyone know if this
is available *anywhere* in the world?  Or has anyone seen it?  The novels
are very amusing with solid historical backgrounds that should have been
a lesson for writers like Mitchner (sp?) and Clavell.  Having Malcolm
McDowell play Flashman would seem to be a very good idea...

						Monty
Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: maven@lerc.nasa.gov (Larry Fishbach)
Subject: Re: Favorite tricks - LAYPERSONS
Reply-To: maven@hercules.lerc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland, OH
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:23:46 GMT

In article <92275.141904HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>, <HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> This is to all you laypersons out there who read this group:
> 
> What is the most stunning/memorable piece of magic that you have ever seen?
> Even if it's something simple that your Uncle Albert did during your cousins
> barmitzvah, let us know.  I'm interested (as I'm sure other magicians are)
> to know what you like to see.
> 
> Please followup to this group (alt.magic)
> 
> *  Hans C. Masing        |  "When you go in for a job interview, I  *
> *  HCM100@PSUVM.psu.edu  |   think a good thing to ask is if they   *
> *  Penn State MIS Dept.  |   ever press charges." - Jack Handey     *
  
I was very impressed by a magician named Delray ? from Pittsburgh.  He
was able to have you throw a pair of dice down a clear plastic chute
which had baffles and determine what the roll of the dice would be.  I
know it was done electronically but can't figure out how it was not
forcing only one particular number.

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Newsgroups: alt.magic
From: pmv@bnr.co.uk (Paul M. Venkatesh)
Subject: Looking for detail on Jamie Ian Swift
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, Harlow, GB
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 10:37:26 GMT

I have been recommended a lecture of Jamie Ian Swift by Davenports in
London. They claim that he is very good at explaining presentation and
misdirection.

From a choice between two of their lectures between Michael Ammar and
Swift, they strongly recommended Swift.

Neither I nor anyone I know has heard of him so I was hoping that
someone on the net could give me some further information on him.
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From: yoder@austin.ibm.com (Stuart R. Yoder)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Favorite tricks - LAYPERSONS
Date: 2 Oct 92 17:55:39 GMT
Reply-To: yoder@netmail.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin
Originator: yoder@yoder.austin.ibm.com


In article <92275.141904HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>, HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> This is to all you laypersons out there who read this group:
> 
> What is the most stunning/memorable piece of magic that you have ever seen?
> Even if it's something simple that your Uncle Albert did during your cousins
> barmitzvah, let us know.  I'm interested (as I'm sure other magicians are)
> to know what you like to see.
> 
> Please followup to this group (alt.magic)
> 

One is the 'dancing tissue / rose' magic trick that Copperfield
did when I saw him last year.  The other tricks that used the complicated
equipment, etc. didn't impress me as much because I think I figured out
how he did them -- there was a trick apparatus involved or something.
But the tissue trick he did out in the audience an had no obvious props
that I could see -- I still can't figure out how he did it.  I saw a few
posts back that someone was offering the video tape of how to do this
trick -- getting it for fifty bucks is tempting, but I don't think
I can afford it.

Another impressive trick I saw a few years ago was a card trick where
the magician at the end, let the deck of cards fly into the air and 
stabbed the 'chosen' card with a pocket knife.  

Close up magic is what impresses me the most.
-- 
-Stuart
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From: euanor@eua.ericsson.se (Patrik Norman)
Subject: Re: Haunted Deck?
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 10:29:25 GMT

Hi,
Just out of curiosity, what illusion does the haunted deck give the
viewer? I haven't heard about it before but any trick with a borrowed
deck is interesting to me since I have a friend who insist on me using
her deck ALL THE TIME, sigh...

Cheers,
       Patrik

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From: duffy@aslss02.asl.dl.nec.com (Joseph Duffy)
Subject: Re: Notorious Toothpaste Skit
Organization: NEC America, Inc. Irving, Texas
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:24:54 GMT

In article <BILLW.92Sep30214315@regal.cisco.com> billw@regal.cisco.com (William ) writes:
>
>    There is a chemical that will turn water into a near solid in just a few
>    seconds.  However, since this chemical is not common, I'll bet that there
>    have been a few people who quaffed their share of spit and toothpaste.
>
>Not common?  Maybe a few years ago, but nowdays you can find it in
>gardening stores and disposable diapers.
>
>BillW

Just out of curiosity, what gardening use does this chemical have and what wouldit be called at a gardening store?

Thanks, Joe
From: billw@regal.cisco.com (William )
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: Notorious Toothpaste Skit
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:43:15
Organization: cisco Systems, Inc.
	<1992Sep16.165625.25753@u.washington.edu>
	<aldavi01.716675801@starbase.spd.louisville.edu>
	<1992Sep21.062005.3700@nezsdc.icl.co.nz>
	<92266.191548HCM100@psuvm.psu.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: regal.cisco.com
In-reply-to: 's message of Tue, 22 Sep 1992 19:15:48 EDT


    There is a chemical that will turn water into a near solid in just a few
    seconds.  However, since this chemical is not common, I'll bet that there
    have been a few people who quaffed their share of spit and toothpaste.

Not common?  Maybe a few years ago, but nowdays you can find it in
gardening stores and disposable diapers.

BillW
From: tnishi@kansas.Berkeley.EDU (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto)
Newsgroups: alt.magic
Subject: Re: flipping pages without touching...
Date: 27 Sep 92 03:01:51 GMT
Reply-To: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Computer Systems R&D Labs


In article <cekXAuC00Vp50rxVcJ@andrew.cmu.edu>, de0t+@andrew.cmu.edu
(Daniel S. Efran) writes:
|> Excerpts from netnews.alt.magic: 22-Sep-92 flipping pages without touc..
|> NISHIYAMA Tetsuto@kansas (1389)
|> 
|> > I've
|> > 	never seen invisible thread before...how "invisible" is it?
|> 
|> 
|> Well it wouldn't be invisible if you had!
|> 
|> Sorry, couldn't resist.
|> 
|> 	---Daniel Efran

	No problem Dan, I knew that SOMEONE would fall into my magic trap!

Teddy
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R&D Support Dept(LSA), Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo-shi, Kyoto-fu 617  JAPAN
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA