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From: resk@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.e.sabat)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
Subject: Ticket for sale Newark - Chicago
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:34:46 GMT
Distribution: ny
Organization: AT&T


 
One way air ticket from Newark to Chicago on September 13 for sale.
Asking $95 O.B.O.
 
Please call Xiaochun Tian at (908)805-2408
or send email to xtian@attmail.att.com
 
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From: dtorok@nynexst.com (David Torok)
Subject: Re: What are "you gotta do" things in/around San Diego 
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 20:15:23 GMT

rajeev@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (rajeev.dolas) writes:
: 	I will be in San Diego in the 4th week of Sept with my wife. I will 
: 	be have 4 full days and 2 evenings (after business). I need to know
: 	what to do in or around SD? I am thinking of driving to Baja? How far
: 	is it from SD? I would prefer to do day trips.

(1) San Diego Zoo in Balboa Park (largest zoo in the U.S.).  Balboa park has
a lot of street-performers, etc.
(2) La Jolla is a nice upscale "evening" town with restaurants, beach, etc. 
(3) Horton Center (if I remember the name) and the surrounding Gaslight
Villiage in downtown San Diego has a number of jazz bars / restaurants.  Horton
Center itself is an outdoor California-art-deco style mall.
(4) Mission Bay Park is nice, with Sea World if you like that sort of attraction
(5) town of Pacific Beach for the more energetic nightlife (clubs/bars)
(6) Day trip to the southernmost-regions of L.A., such as Disneyland, Knott's
    Berry Farm, etc.  Central L.A. is 2 1/2 - 3 hours north "without traffic".

Baja California (Mexico)
(1) Tijuana, about 20 minutes south of downtown S.D.  Park on the U.S. side
(there's a parking lot which is $5-10.  Walk across the border.  Take the
usual precautions (against pickpocketing, exposed jewelry, etc.).  Daylight is
safer; I found the atmosphere similar to what I see in Times Square NYC.  Don't
wander more than a block off of Avenida Revolucion. Get a bargain on Kahlua
or tequila on the way back. Be prepared to ignore dozens of persistant peddlers.

(2) Ensenada, about 1 1/2 hrs. south of Tijuana into Mexico.  Buy car insurance
on the U.S. side for the day.  NOTE:  Most (if not all) car rental companies
won't let you take the car into Mexico.  The road to Ensenada is a nice modern
highway.


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From: ljk3376@zeus.tamu.edu (KEEBLE, LOUIS JOSEPH)
Subject: Trip to Australia from London
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:41:00 GMT

Hello,
  I have just about finished w/ grad. school, and am now going to take
some time off and travel. I want to get to Australia eventually, and
will be leaving from London in late January/early February. I am on
a fairly tight budget, but have plenty of time and am therefore thinking
about travelling by land (mostly). Unfortunately, no-one in this town seems to
be able to help with questions such as "which is the best/cheapest way
to get there", "what visas do I need" etc. I love travelling by bus/train,
I am also interested in working on the way, in whatever job is available..
Has anyone out there done anything similar, if so I would be interested
in any advice. By the way, I am English, and my wife is American, she'll
be coming too. I plan on being on the road for around 6 months, maybe
more. Cheers!

                             Lou
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL ADVISORY -- Bolivia
Date: 4 Sep 1992 10:00:48 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL ADVISORY - Bolivia
============================================================
Bolivia - Warning
  September 2, 1992

The Department of State advises U.S. citizens to exercise caution 
when traveling in Bolivia.  While no foreign tourists have been 
injured or targeted by terrorists, there have been isolated 
terrorist incients against American officials and resident 
missionaries over the past three years.  In August 1992, a Bolivian 
terrorist group announced its intention to renew terrorist attacks 
against U.S. targets in Bolivia.  The authenticity of this 
announcement is not known, but the threat of terrorist activity by 
this or other groups is considered a distinct possibility between 
August and November 1992.  Although not likely to be targeted, U.S. 
visitors should exercise caution and increase their security 
awareness while traveling in Bolivia.

U.S. citizens should avoid non-essential travel in the Chapare 
region between Santa Cruz and Cochabamba due to concerted 
anti-narcotics activities and the potential for violence.

U.S. travelers should be aware of the presence of cholera in almost 
all parts of the country.  Travelers should use only bottled water 
and beverages.  Vegetables and shellfish should be well cooked and 
all foods eaten while still hot.  All fruits should be peeled in the 
presence of the consumer.  Additional health information can be 
obtained from the Centers for Disease Control's international 
travelers hotline at 404-332-4559.

Upon arrival, U.S. citizens should seek the latest travel 
information and register with the Consular Section of the U.S. 
Embassy located on the 2nd floor, Tobia Building, Potosi Street, 
Corner Colon, La Paz at tel: 356-685.

 No. 92-165

This advisory replaces the advisory dated June 5, 1992 to alert 
U.S. citizens to the potential for increased terrorist activity, and 
to change the telephone number of the Consular Section of the U.S. 
Embassy.

Xref: sparky rec.travel:12575 soc.culture.usa:6969
From: gcf@panix.com (Gordon Fitch)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Date: 29 Aug 92 13:42:29 GMT
Organization: mydog in exile

If Americans are resented abroad, the resenters certainly seem to
keep it to themselves.  As a tourist, I've been reasonably well
treated everywhere I've been, and I haven't observed any obvious
anti-Americanism.  Maybe people store it up for Usenet.
-- 
 )*(    Gordon Fitch    )*(    gcf@panix.com    )*(
( 1238 Blg. Grn. Sta.,  NY NY 10274 * 718.273.5556 )
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From: cessna@kn5f.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Taylor Evert)
Subject: Re: dude ranch information
Organization: Loral Space Information Systems
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:13:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.211611.11273@fnbc.com> jja@fnbc.com (Joseph Alotta) 
writes:
> please post information on some of the better vaction choices for
> a dude ranch vacation ala the "City Slickers" movie.

I just returned from a great dude ranch vacation, especially for the 
family.   Peaceful Valley ranch in Colorado right at the southeast corner 
of Rocky Mt National Park.  Good horses, good food, good facilities, good 
entertainment, good supervised activities for children, great staff 
overall.  Best vacation I've ever had overall.   Contact the Colorado Dude 
Ranch Association for info on other ranches, but make your reservations 
early as the better places fill up fast.  Typical cost including gratuity 
is $1K/person/week.  Somewhat less for children depending on age.   The 
Colorado Dude Ranch Association's number is 1-800-441-6060.   Peaceful 
Valley is also listed in the Mobil guide, but the best description is in a 
book entitled "Great family Vacations" that is in most bookstores.   A lot 
of ranches will also send you a promotional video tape upon request.   I 
found Peaceful Valley's to be accurate as far as advertising was concerned.

I've also visited a couple of dude ranches in Bandera TX near San Antonio. 
  For the most part, they are an order of magnitude below the one I 
visited in Colorado, but then so is the price.  If you are looking for a 
relaxing vacation with horseback riding and good food,  the Texas ones 
will fit the bill, but don't expect a whole lot more.  The cost is usually 
about $70/person/day.  The Mayan ranch has the most activities, but the 
worst horseback riding as far as scenery is concerned.   The Silver Spur 
has great horseback riding, but almost nothing else as far as activities 
besides eating (the food is good.)   Both places have swimming pools.

None of the ranches I've listed offer cattle drives like City Slickers, 
but there were a few in Colorado that did it once or twice a year.

Mark T. Evert
Friendswood, TX

My opinions are my own.
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From: spindler@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
Subject: Re: Hurricane in Miami
Reply-To: spindler@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
Organization: RSMAS
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 13:41:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.202153.15191@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk>, 
woody@udcf.glasgow.ac.uk (Ian Woodrow) writes:

>I met someone from Bay Harbor Islands which I think is around MIA beach area.
>The zippo is 33154.   OK, thing is - was that area hit by Andy ?  Is the
>appartment likely to still be there ?

Probably.  Miami Beach did not see any significant storm surge or flooding as a
result of the passage of Andrew.  They were hit with some pretty strong winds
(140-150 mph) but did not sustain major damage.  The water was declared
drinkable a couple of days ago, and they've had power since late last week.

----
Todd Spindler                                  
TSpindler@rsmas.miami.edu                 RSMAS/MPO  University of Miami
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From: jja@fnbc.com (Joseph Alotta)
Subject: dude ranch information
Keywords: dude,ranch
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 21:16:11 GMT

please post information on some of the better vaction choices for
a dude ranch vacation ala the "City Slickers" movie.

I have a friend who wants to try it.


thanks,


joe.



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! joe alotta                                    jja@fnbc.com !                                               
!                                             (312) 732-3439 !
!                                                            !
! "The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing." !
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From: hisashi@neclpd.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Hisashi Naganuma)
Subject: Weather in Canadian Rocky in Sept.
Organization: NEC America, Inc.,  San Jose, CA., USA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:45:22 GMT


We are planning to go Jasper, Canada from Sept 26. to Oct. 3.
Please let me have information about the weather there.
Is it cold? Can we expect much rain or snow there?

If there is any other information for sightseeing, please post.

Thanks in advance.

Hisashi Naganuma
hisashi@lpd.sj.nec.com
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From: dsk@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Daniel Katz)
Subject: Seattle/Vancouver
Summary: looking for general info.
Reply-To: dsk@nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, USA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:38:42 GMT

I'm thinking of going to Seattle and Vancouver sometime in the next few
months.  If anyone has kept a summary of information about these two
cities and the surrounding area, I would appreciate be mailed a copy.
Any new information would also be welcome.  If this type of stuff exists
in an archive that I can ftp it from, I would like to know.

thanks in advance,
Dan
-- 
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Dept. of Electrical Engineering                             1(708)491-8887
Northwestern University, Evanston, IL, 60208                E pur si muove
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From: daver@ldgo.columbia.edu (dave reynolds)
Subject: national trust, etc.
Keywords: humor?, national trust
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:14:37 GMT

The recent discussions concerning passes for various properties
in Great Britain remind me of traveling there with my parents
many years ago.  We bought a pass for "Ancient Monuments" which
seemed to be useless.  No matter how ruined the abbey or lumpy
the mounds, nothing seemed to qualify as an "ancient monument".
Finally the day arrived for us to visit Stonehenge.  At the gate
where we were to pay admission my mother asked the attendant if
this was an ancient monument.  He looked at her with suprise
and then thinly covered disgust.  He replied, "Madam, this is
the most ancient one we have."  Yes, the passes finally worked.

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* David Reynolds		  	E-mail:daver@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu *
* Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory	     All views are my own, etc.       *
* Palisades, NY 			 "You can't tell which way the train  *
*					    went by looking at its tracks"    *
*******************************************************************************
From: cla02@seq1.keele.ac.uk (R. Wallace)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: National Trust:  Stately homes and castles in the U.K.
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:35:06 GMT
Organization: University of Keele, England

From article <BtyMtu.7r5@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, by jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin):
> Both the National Trust and English Heritage were recommended here.  I
> should point out that both have elitist attitudes that quite a few people
> may find objectionable.  [supporting detail deleted]

Fair enough, the sorts of people involved in the management of
NT and EH tend to be drawn from - well, let us say the more
conventionally minded sections of society. They make me cringe too
(though it is fair to say that they are often totally out of touch with
the rank and file members of their organisations). I will admit to
having some sympathy for the NT's ban on photography, because
inconsiderate photographers can sometimes cause enormous traffic jams in
popular buildings.
> 
> That sort of "conservation" is something that I'm not going to contribute
> to, thanks.

So what are you saying to visitors to the UK? Don't visit NT or EH
sites? (in which case you will miss out on a lot of the things people
come here to see). Or visit their sites, but instead of taking out
membership and getting in cheap, give them EVEN MORE of your hard-earned
dollars by payng at the door. It doesn't make sense.

A desirable by-product of National Trust membership is that you get to
vote. You can vote from time to time to ban fox hunting on NT
properties, among other interesting issues. Of course they take 
no notice of what
their members say, but it annoys them, which can't be bad, and you do
get to vote in elections, which they cannot ignore. If enough of us
join, and use our votes, we will get the buggers in the end.

In response to the original poster's question, yes, it is a good bargain
unless you come to Britain on a day-trip!

Richard Wallace 
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From: matt@tfs.com (Matthew Hom)
Subject: Bed & Breakfasts in/near London?
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: UK London
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:35:23 GMT

I plan to stay in London for the weekend and don't want to rent a car.
Can anyone recommend something economical and clean? We arrive Sat. noon
at Heathrow and fly to Paris on Monday morning. My wife and I 
will be recovering from the flight on Sat. so I will not venture to
far. Sunday would be our exploring day for London or some outlying
excursion. Any ideas?

reply to me by mail. Thanks.

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From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: England: The West Country
Date: 3 Sep 92 17:03:16 GMT
	<venable.133@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: venable@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu's message of 2 Sep 92 22:29:42 GMT

In article <venable.133@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu> venable@faculty.coe.wvu.wvnet.edu (Wallace Venable) writes:

   >We may be travelling to the UK the first week of December, and
   >may head out to Torquay, Bath, Reading for a few days each.  I
   >know this is off season, but will the weather be that horrible?

	   We have had excellant weather in Britain at the end of December.  
   People there said "you were lucky" both times.  

You can never predict British weather.  You may get torrential rain, sleet,
snow, tropical heat, gentle sunshine, wind, no wind; you just have to come
prepared for anything, and expect it to change every day.

Sunset here in Scotland happens at about 4pm in December, so I suppose it
would maybe be about half an hour after that in the south of England.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: locsin@mwk.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Info on New England wanted
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:15:53 CST
Organization: M. W. Kellogg, Houston TX

My husband and I are going to spend a few nights in New England in the last
week of September. The towns we are going to be staying at are
	Stowe, Vermont
	North Conway, New Hampshire
	Kennebunkport, Maine

I was wondering if any one can give information on temperature ranges,
probabilities of precipitation ( rain or snow ), and sunset times for these
places. 

We live in Houston, Texas where it's hot, humid and for the most part
unscenic. ( There are some very beautiful places in Texas but they're all so
far away ). I've been reading up on New England and it seem jam packed with
scenic and historic places. The problem is there are so many to choose from and
we only have five days to do it all. I would really appreciate descriptions 
of your favorite walks or short drives around this area. 

In Kennebunkport we are staying at the White Barn Inn. I would like to hear
from anyone who has stayed here before. Is it really as nice as the description
sounds?

Thanks in advance

Ria Locsin
p.s. We're more into nature than history.
From: ercn72@festival.ed.ac.uk (R.J.Hare)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Martinique/Venezuela
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:13:31 GMT

I hope to be sailing a yacht between Martinique and Venezuela over Xmas 1992.
Does anyone have any information about Martinique and/or Venezuela which may
be of use? I have some information re vaccination requirements, etc. in
Venezuela, but not much else.

Thanjks.

Roger Hare
r.j.hare@edinburgh.ac.uk
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From: kathleen@casbs.Stanford.EDU (Kathleen Much)
Subject: Re: National Trust:  Stately homes and castles in the U.K.
Organization: Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 00:54:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.235829.13753@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>I'm thinking about buying a (membership? pass?) in the National Trust
>for an upcoming trip to tour the English countryside.  Fodor's says it's
>$40 for an individual.
>
>I realize how much money I save by buying the pass is dependent on what
>I want to see (and no, I'm not begging for recommendations on what to
>see, I'll do my homework), but I also don't have a good feel for what
>admission prices are to various stately homes, castles and monuments.
>
>Has anyone used one of these passes?  What did you visit, and did you
>feel the pass was a good value?

I've used them several times, visited dozens of places, and would
think the pass was a good value even if my tickets hadn't been worth
more than the pass cost (they were in fact worth several times as
much), because almost all the money goes back into preservation.
Tickets cost anywhere from a pound to 7.50 pounds.  I've been visiting
National Trust properties for more than 20 years and hope for 40 more.

English Heritage passes are good at many castles and historic sites
like hillforts; they also get you 1/2-price entry at Scottish Heritage
properties.  

If you like gardens, you should definitely invest 2 pounds in "the
yellow book"--the listing of properties open on the National Gardens
Scheme.  Many are private gardens open only one or two days a year,
proceeds to charity (usually 75 pence to 1.50 pounds).  Some are also
in the National Trust, but charge extra for the charity days.  The
yellow book gives good directions and tells you where you can have
tea, too!  Except for the public gardens, most are open only on
weekend afternoons, typically Sunday 2-5 pm.  House tours typically
cost extra if available.
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From: sleith@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (scot evan leith)
Subject: Michigan Accomodations Needed
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 01:37:20 GMT


Myself and a few other guys are going up to Michigan, October 9-13 for
a break from college and we would like to find an affordable cabin or
cottage to stay in.  Any suggestions?  Thanks.

Scot
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From: jis@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (jishnu.mukerji)
Subject: Re: Eurail Pass and Supplements.
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:04:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.181209.5427@ccu.umanitoba.ca> prking@silver.cs.umanitoba.ca (Peter King) writes:
>I know that in France, travel on the TGV does require the pass holder
>to pay the supplement, but not, I think, on other trains.
>I'd be glad of any relevant information.

I travelled on the TGV Atlantique on Eurail Pass last month. They did
not charge me any TGV supplement. They just charged me a reservation
fee which was the same as for reservation on any other train. Of
course since TGV's are "Reservation Obligatoire" trains, you could
consider the reservation fee to be a supplement:-).

Jishnu Mukerji
jis@usl.com
From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: fearful of taking undeveloped film thru X-ray
Date: 26 Aug 92 02:32:53 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide

In article <BtAutB.KA9@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, csb58666@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (James R. MacCrimmon     ) writes:
> In ten days time I am going to fulfill my lifelong dream of going to the
> UK.  I will be traveling, by plane, from O'Hare Airport in Chicago
> to Glascow Airport in Scotland.  I am taking with me twelve rolls of
> unexposed Kodak 400 film.  My question is, will taking the film through
> the metal detector, or theough the airport X-ray, damage or destroy my
> film?

At adelaide airport they have a sign posted which says only 1000ASA or higher
film may be affected.  Ask before you go through if in doubt.

> 
> Anther question:
> I am taking with me about two-hundred compact disks--These HAVE to be manually
> searched, obviously.  Will airport security allow me to just let security
> physically inspect the CDs?
> 
they may just take a sample selection and not bother to search all of them.
Would YOU search 200 disks?

regs

Rob

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From: duck@well.sf.ca.us (Robert Lauriston)
Subject: Re: The naming of the transit system in the Bay Area.
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:09:06 GMT


The official name of the Muni is the San Francisco Municipal Railway.
BTW, the drain-cover logo in Rome, SPQR, is translated by many
northerners as "Sono Porci Questi Romani."
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