From: v079rbu4@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Sanjay Kohli)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: This is for the "Secularists"
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:30:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <1992Dec15.205630.4073@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, sjayanth@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Satyanand V. Jayanthi) writes...
>In article <1992Dec15.194829.23290@news2.cis.umn.edu> prabhak@giga.cs.umn.edu (Satya Prabhakar) writes:
>>(The Purple Bleeder ) writes:
>>>As for the mahatmas who abound on the net......please 
>>>think how it hurts if u are a true Indian when u see
>>>people loyal to Pakistan, chhering them openly, 
>>
>>Well, let us just say that Leander Paes of India gets
>>to the US Open Tennis Finals and is slated to meet
>>Andre Agassi. There is no question as to who I shall
>>root for.
>>
>>How about you?
>>
>>If an Indian who has become an American citizen roots
>>for Paes, is that treason?
>>
>>Satya Prabhakar
>>--
>>
>What a comparison...its a question of how much you canm stretch yourselves
>into justifying what is so obviously improper and unpatriotic.
>This is not a fair comparison. First thing is US and India are not enemy
>countries always at each other's throats. Next thing is that any sporting
>event between india and US, I believe is never taken as some jihad...for
>pakistan, any such event is so..I recall an interview by Zaheer abbas when
>he was the captain saying so..Also , even if there were to be support from
>the indian community here to an indian team, it is not along religious lines.
>Even a christian of indian origin would support india. And when you compare
>the condition of the indian community here, where in you can be assured that
>you can have no political power (other that voting ofcourse ) and are 
>permanently off the mainstream with the muslims in india, who have all the
>political power and benifits in the world, you are not showing proper
>discrimination. 
> 
>I presume you have some touch with hyderabad as i remember seeing you on
>soc.culture.indian.telugu...
> 
>1. One thing which had occured quite recently and in a large scale was
>   the celebration of *india's defeat* in englands hand in 1987. There were
>   *large scale* celebrations in all the muslim districts of hyderabad..
>   I felt sick watching the *deepavali* at vidya nagar. Now will the indian
>   community
>   here in US celebrate any defeat of US in the hands of some other country?
>   
>2. Finally..here is a revealing personal experience..After the loss of
>   in one of those sharjah tournaments..the one in which miandad whacked a
>   six of the last ball of chetan sharma...a muslim friend of mine comes and
>   asks me.."evitandi mee vaallu allaa aadaaru?"..what about this Mr. Satya
>   Prabhakar? 
> 
>3. Go and sit in an irani restaurent in hyderabad..during a sporting event
>   in which india is not involved and only pakistan is...the involvement
>   and the excitement in the crowds will be revealing..its as if "their"
>   country is involved.                                           ^^^^^
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

    Not just in hyderabad most of the muslims in the northern states do the 
    same thing whenever India looses to Pakistan they distribute sweets to 
    just show their support for Pakistan. How many Indian have you seen 
    distributing sweets when Ramesh K. won a match over American player.
    Don't just throw garbage on net to show how sec. you are. 


>   To be honest, I have quite a few muslim friends who are otherwise. But there
>   are lots of hyderabadis who share similar experiences as mine. To deny
>   that certain sections of muslims feel more pakistani than indian is being
>   dishonest. It is a different question as to what the solution for this
>   could be..But atleast let us accept the existance of the problem..A section
>    muslims feel closer to pakistan than india..atleast in hyderabad..reasons
>   could be anything.. but please do not deny that..
> 
>   Narain.(from a friend's account)
>   narain@bass.bu.edu
> 
> 
>>My daughter has a pimple on her chin. She is unhappy.
>>I have a pimple on my chine. I am happy.
>>It is called perspective.			-Anon




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