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From: ANDY@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Andrew T. Robinson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: HPFS access from DOS?
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:59:17 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

We've got some applications which simply won't run in OS/2 VDMs so
we need to keep DOS 5.0 around and boot standalone.   The question I
have is, is there any way that standalone DOS can access HPFS partitions?
I'd prefer to format for HPFS and leave FAT behind, but I also have the
need for DOS to be able to access data on the hard disk(s).

I will boot DOS from floppy, in case anyone is wondering how I would
do that with no FAT partition :-)

Andy
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why XGA-2?
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:00:48 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

d9mikael@dtek.chalmers.se (Mikael Wahlgren) writes:
>goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K. Goyal) writes:
>>Finally, about colors, I don't know of any "normal" user who needs more
>>than 256 colors at any resolution.  The only thing I would do with more
>>than 256 colors is look at cool .gifs, that is if I could find a .gif
>>with more than 256 colors!
>>I don't know of any program that supports more than 256 colors, of course
>>I don't do any serious DTP or anything like that...

>Well, with regard to OS/2, you will have to think a little more.  256 colors
>are 256 colors TOTAL.  These colors are shared by ALL applications on the
>PM Desktop, so if you have ONE application that uses all 256 colors, there
>won't be any colors left for the other applications (and they will have to
>use whatever happens to be the nearest color).  This certainly can be a
>limitiation in multimedia applications.  Yes, 256 color GIFs are often
>good enough quality, but if you want to display TWO (or more) different
>GIF pictures on the screen at the same time,they suddenly won't be of the
>same quality as you expect, as they can't demand the 256 colors they want.

Colour me confused. Doesn't palette management (coming in the 32-bit GRE
Service Pack, no?) allow for two or more palettes simultaneously?

Tom
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen)
Subject: Re: OS/2 Service Pack Delayed
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:51:51 GMT

Ronald Jones writes:

>>> It would be a major
>>> blow if the long-awaited 32-bit drivers turned out to be bug-ridden,
>>> as OS/2 is already being trashed weekly by magazines such as Byte and
>>> PC Mag.

>> Um, how can a monthly like Byte trash OS/2 weekly?  How can a biweekly
>> like PC Mag trash OS/2 weekly?

> Easy! Special Issues. Did you see the BYTE "Essential Guide to Windows"
> Mark Minasi takes a few swipes. Actually I really like his "Inside OS/2"
> book.

BYTE doesn't put out enough special issues for it to qualify as a weekly.
Seriously, however, I was fully expecting somebody to take me to task over
"biweekly", when I should have more properly said "semimonthly" (except
for two summer months).
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jwichman@cssjgw (Jon Wichman)
Subject: Re: Trident 8900C 800x600x16 and DOS problems
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:42:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.221033.5399@networx.com> mikel@networx.com (Mike  
Lempriere) writes:
> So last night I tried some of the things described in this file to get
> my trident card working.  All to no avail.
> 
> I pulled all other cards, ran SVGA card and hard-drive only, no  
difference.
> I removed the jumper on my trident card to do 72hz as described in an
> earlier note in this file.  I XMODEMed down fresh copies of each driver  
I
> tried, to make sure my month old copies transmitted ok.
> I did SVGA ONs, I did DDINSTALs, I did LOTS of reboots to OS/2 1.3 to  
copy
> the original DISPLAY.DLL back into \OS2\DLL.
> 
> I tried ALT-F1 at boot-timee as described somewhere in this file.
> 
> *** WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING ***
> *** WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING ***
> 
> Don't use ALT-F1 at boot-time!  It nukes your desktop!

It seems like I read where it also makes a backup.  I believe it was in  
one of the redbooks.

> 
> *** WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING ***
> *** WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING *** WARNING ***
> 
> Your machine will be back to the way it was when you first installed  
2.0.
> Right down to the dang Tutorial.  And while it lets you fiddle with the
> mouse, it merrily axes your desktop.
> 
> Anyways, I found some reference to a VSVGA.SYS patch in an earlier note
> in this file, I will look for that on hobbes.

--
In the beginning there was nothing.  God said, "Let there be light!"  And  
there
was light.  There was still nothing, but you could see it a whole lot  
better.
From: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Moving programs out of WIN-OS/2 Full Screen
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:28:08 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

>The problem is that there's no program object to click on! I have to go to
>the Win-OS/2 "folder" (it's not really a folder - the icon is a set of
>glass windows) in order to run it. Once there, I'm essentially in full-
>screen Windows so that there are no settings I can alter. The Freelance
>"object" is a Windows icon, and it doesn't respond to MB2.
>
>I will probably end up re-installing F4W, but I'm persuing this more for
>curiousity than anything else. If a user can't move an app out of full-
>screen Win-OS/2 into the Windows container for seamless access, then
>that is a problem that should at least be documented.
>

It sounds like you're pretty clueless.  Here it is in a nutshell:  CREATE
a program object for F4W by dragging a PROGRAM TEMPLATE (you drag using the
right button) out of the templates folder.  When the settings page opens
up, enter the path and filename of the executable for F4W and enter it's
path in the WORKING DIR field.  Then go to the session page and select 
'Winos2 Window' as opposed to 'Winos2 Full Screen'.  Then, when you double
click on the F4W program object you created, it will come up in a 'seamless
window'.  

Incidentally, don't get frustrated because your F4W program object is called
PROGRAM for all of eternity,  You can change it by going to the GENERAL page
in the object settings.
-- 
 ============================================================================
 Al Dhir                      			   Technical Consulting Staff
 Internet: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu	  	 University of Maryland, College Park
 Bitnet:   adhir%cygnus.umd.edu@Interbit      (301) 405-1500 * (301) 405-3014
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sangercd@nextnet.csus.edu (Carl D. Sanger)
Subject: Re: WPS Lockup
Keywords: lockup, password
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:26:06 GMT

>> >but it's cool, it saves my screen - i set the screen blank to 1 min, the 
>> >least amt possible, so now when i leave my comp, i just lockup....
>> >
>> >                                        Ben Barrett
>> 
>> The only problem is if you incorrectly type the password, you have to wait
>> for the timeout period (just 1 minute in the above case) before OS/2 will
>> accept another password attempt.  So if you plan to the Lockup as a screen
>> blanker only, pick a simple password.  I use the space bar.
>> 
My mistake.  To make it simple, I set my password to be the space bar.  This is
the keystroke which invokes the lockup help.  Sorry.

-- 
Carl Sanger				|| sangercd@csus.edu
California State University, Sacramento
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Don Smith)
Subject: Help with high speed modems
Originator: djs6015@ultb
Reply-To: djs6015@ultb.rit.edu (Don Smith)
Organization: R.I.T.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 05:41:06 GMT


Hi There....

I just bought a V.32bis external modem with a 16550A UART. How do I    
tell TE/2 to take advantage of the hardware buffering? I know there
is the mode command.... but I haven't had any luck with it.

Please mail or post.... thanks.
-- 
   | Don Smith                  | Woman mirrors the universe, and within |
   |djs6015@ultb.isc.rit.edu    |her temple she contains all the ritual  |
   |DJS6015@ritvax.isc.rit.edu  |sacraments needed to unleash the vortex |
   |DJS6015@ritvax.BITNET       |ov the subconscious.  John ZeWizz       |
From: Lynlee@cup.portal.com (Linda Stefny Baum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Boot Disk
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 16:31:53 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na
  <19921014.022229.174@almaden.ibm.com>          
  <1bi0j1INNe1r@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> <19921014.151810.955@almaden.ibm.com>

q
>>>Is it possible to boot OS/2 off a single 1.2MB floppy FOR HPFS?
>>>
>>No way, just won't fit.  Trust me I've tried.
>
>Actually there is a way to do it.  Get the DOS program FDFORMAT from
>wuarchive.wustl.edu:/mirrors/msdos/dskutl, this allows you to format an
>1.2 MB disk to 1.44 capacity, you should be able to fit the uhpfs.dll on
>it then.
>
> There's a number of other ShareWare/PD programs that do this and more; they
> can format a 1.44" disk to about 1.7M.  I'm investigating adding this
> function to SE20BOOT but don't know enough about how Formatting works.
> (The original question though was how to fit all this on 1.2M, which as I
>  stated can't be done).

It sounds like so much trouble.. Why cant 2 floppies be used.. One 1.2meg
in A: and a 1.44meg in B: drive.. Put both flops in your system and boot..
Once A: flop is full, cant it look to B: for the rest of the needed files
as well as chkdsk and TinyEd... 

This thought came from the keyboard of a True Blue 'End User', so dont
laugh if there is a very obvious reason you techie types know about
that I dont.. ;)

Peace.. -<-*			Lynlee@cup.portal.com
				aa1241@freenet.lorain.oberlin.edu
From: thorh@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Thor Hallen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Appletalk and OS/2
Date: 7 Oct 92 06:12:49 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Oct5.081601.13833@newshub.ccs.yorku.ca> philip@nexus.yorku.ca (Phil McDunnough) writes:
>Does anyone know of an Appletalk board and OS/2 software which will
>allow a PC to exist well on an Appletalk network (printing, file
>sharing, etc...)? Drivers for a DeskWriter C?
>
>Please e-mail if possible as I have limited access to this group.
> 
Please post the answer as I am sure many people are looking for a solution
including myself.
                                                   Thor Hallen
From: nan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Nan Zou)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Why XGA-2?
Date: 13 Oct 1992 22:50:20 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) writes:

>>Why is XGA-2 important?
>>
>>(1) Support for up to eight adapters/monitors in a single system.

>Does this mean OS/2 will finally be able to do the dual screen thing
>like Macs and have the mouse pointer go between screens?  Hmmm...

I would sure hope so!  That'll shut the arrogant Mac users up, if you've
been reading comp.sys.mac.advocacy (hey I was bored), you'd know this is
a known PC sore point, which the Mac users like to pound on again and
again ad nausem.  It's not like most people can actually afford multiple
monitors, but this will be a cool thing to have.

>>(3) Bus mastering.  Apparently even on the AT bus.

>Sounds good.  Do the Ultras busmaster?

I remember that the AT bus has some trouble with multiple busmasters, so
if you already have a busmastering card, say an Adaptec 1542B, wouldn't
adding a XGA-2 card mess things up?

>>(4) Fully extensible.  It is the "last" graphics standard 
>>(5) Intelligent querying of monitor/adapter capabilities.
>>(6) A VESA standard, meaning it has widespread industry support.
>>(7) It is actually _less_ expensive than the ATI cards.
>>(8) Much faster than XGA(1).  
>>(9) Full (and standard) customization for your monitor.

Those sound like nice features, and I agree with others here, XGA-2 is
a nice architecture to build on, I just think the current implementation
from IBM is a little weak (1024x768x8bit, come on!), I want at least
1024x768 at 24 bit, for maybe ~$500, hopefully also 1280x1024x24b for
less than $1K.

-- Nan
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jzawodn@andy.bgsu.edu (jeremy zawodny)
Subject: Re: Os/2 and second drives
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:58:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.193140.24778@cs.UAlberta.CA> shane@cs.UAlberta.CA (Ruman Shane James) writes:
>      I'm considering buying another hard drive to satiate software's space 
>apetite and remember reading that Os/2 didn't pacticularily like second drives
>, has there been any problems with using Os/2 on a system with two drives.  
>Also if two drives works fine, is it possible to format the second one totally
>as HPFS while Os/2 continues to reside on my FAT drive 1(unfortunately still
>gotta use dos occaisonally).  Illumination would be appreciated as always!

There's no problems in adding a second drive.  You can format the second
one HPFS and run that way.  All of that is possible (I did it myself once).

Enjoy!

Jeremy

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: david@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (David Chappell)
Subject: VideoBlaster and OS/2
Organization: Computer and Technologies Theme Program, NCSU, Raleigh
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:14:31 GMT

Does anyone know whether Creative Labs' Vedeo Blaster board will work with
OS/2?  I saw the card demoed at a store and it looks impressive.  The software
is for Windows, and I wonder whehter it will run OK under OS/2.  Also, I'm
hoping that MMPM2 drivers will be developed for it, especially considering
that Creative Labs worked with IBM to develop MMPM2 drivers for their Sound
Blaster.  Can any IBMers from Boca comment on this?

For the uninformed, the Video Blaster card displays NTSC and PAL TV signals
on a PC and allows for image manipulation and recording.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
     David T. Chappell            --   david@catt.ncsu.edu
North Carolina State University   --   Computer And Technologies Theme Program
-----------------------------------
From: steck@ccs.northeastern.edu (Paul Steckler)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Biff
Date: 13 Oct 92 03:09:28 GMT
Organization: College of CS, Northeastern U

In article <1687EA8D3.CFORDE@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca> CFORDE@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.012625.17468@random.ccs.northeastern.edu>
>steck@ccs.northeastern.edu (Paul Steckler) writes:
> 
>>I AM contemplating writing PMBiff (I've already asserted my copyright
>>on that name :-)), if enough folks demand it.  You're about the
>>3rd person to ask about it.  From what I know about PM, this
>>is an easy port.  Anyone else interested?
> 
>What is Biff and what can it do for me?
> 
>Have fun,
>Carl Forde                            phonenet: 604-360-7130
>VM Database and Development Support   bitnet  : CFORDE@BCSC02
>British Columbia Systems Corporation  internet: cforde@bcsc02.gov.bc.ca

A biff program notifies you when you have mail.  WinBiff reports mail
that is delivered to the PC itself.  It was
designed to work with UUPC and other programs that use
"mmdf" mail format (Waffle, FSUUCP).  It should also work with other mail
formats or faxes, though it won't be able to display mail headers.

-- Paul

-- 
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| Paul Steckler                       |  Were I Brittania,              |
| steck@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu  |    I'd waive the rules ...      |
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pshuang@athena.mit.edu (Ping Huang)
Subject: Re: CSD vs Beta? What happens?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:46:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.004306.18024@news.nd.edu> jonathan@nova.next.nd.edu (Jonathan Bradshaw) writes:

 >   What happens to us beta Os/2 2.0.1 users when the CSD is released?
 > Do we use the CSD and can we put the Win 3.1 stuff on top of the CSD?
 > Do we put the CSD on top of the beta (doubtfull)?

I believe the solution is to reinstall the original OS/2 2.0 GA and then
install CSD components on top of that. Everything I have seen so far
suggests that you be prepared to reinstall after using beta if you wish
to become "a normal customer" again instead of a beta tester.

--
Ping Huang (INTERNET: pshuang@athena.mit.edu), probably speaking for himself
From: am66@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Alexander Maldutis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Why XGA-2?
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:25:18 GMT
Reply-To: am66@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Alexander Maldutis)
Organization: Columbia University

I'm curious:  why all the big fuss about XGA-2?  I agree that IBM should be 
commended for once more introducing a new standard, this time with real
functionality, bu the specs of the board just don't excite me.  Given that
ATI will be shipping its Ultra Plus and Pro series, which do 800x600 in 24
bits, 1024x768 in 65K and 1280x1024 in 256, what are the real advantages of
XGA?  As a current owner of an ATI Ultra, I find 1024x768x256 too limiting
for OS/2, especially since IBM still has not implemented dynamic pallette
adjustment [it's pretty sad when my WIN-OS2 session has a much prettier
background than OS/2, not to mention file viewing and such].  To my 
knowledge, the ATI boards won't be that terribly more expensive than the XGA,
and give you putatively faster performance with more colors.

What's the deal?

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OS/2 2.0  -  A real OS.                 *     "There can be only one."
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From: dona@nwra.com (Dona)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Latest scoop on the service pack...
Keywords: Service pack
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:01:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: nwra.1992Oct13.210131.8789
Organization: Northwest Research Associates, Inc.

According to 12 Oct 92 Info World, p6:

IBM will release next week it's ...Service Pak (containing) 240
fixes.  Among the fixes... are the 32-bit graphics engine,
seamless windows support for XGA & Super VGA... performance
improvements to DDE & clipboard...

The service pak, which can be installed over the existing version,
will be available first through Compuserve and other bulletin
boards.  Later it will be available on disks...for a nominal
fee.
-- 
Don Altman                                 Northwest Research Associates, Inc.
dona@nwra.com                              Bellevue, WA
(206) 453-8141                             (206) 646-9123 (FAX)
From: genie@netcom.com (Gene Choi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: DON'T BUY OS/2 -- IBM IS HORRIBLE
Date: 10 Oct 92 02:35:48 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <67445@cup.portal.com> Tazzie@cup.portal.com (Jon S Novak) writes:
>I just got off the phone with IBM Tech Support.  If I want to be able
>to use my CD-ROM drive (Creative Labs SBPRO MM Upgrade Kit) then I 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Why did you do that for?  The SB Pro sucks in sound quality
and uses some MIDI interface not compliant with the MPU401
standard that most MIDI devices use nowadays.  And to even
hook up a CD ROM drive, you must specifically get their own
Panasonic CD Rom drive.  Please don't complain for buying
something that isn't compatible with anything else.

>have to either (A) buy an IBM cd-rom drive or (B) buy their 
>'Multimedia Package' software for $500 bucks.  Are they out of their
>minds?   I just spent $100 for a program that was 'compatable with
>windows and dos programs' but in order for ME to be compatable, I must
>spend $500 more?  With customer support like that, it's no wonder that
>their stocks are falling.  My only suggestion is to keep away from IBM
>and stick with good ole reliable Microsoft (Can't wait for Windows NT)
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

"ole"?  Microsoft is NOT old in my book.  They do have good service
though, from what I can tell.

Gene
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: gyorgy@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Gyorgy Vizkelethy)
Subject: Memory problems
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:35:54 GMT

I already asked this question but nobody has responded up to know so I ask it
again. I have a 486/50MHz clone w/ 8Mbytes of memory, 120 Mbyte IDE HD and
a Diamond SpeedStar SVGA card. I am using the 32bit beta w/ some windows
programs. My problem is when I boot and nothing else is running than the WPS
and memstat it shows that the available memory is only 512k and it has a 4M


swapfile. As soon as I load the TCP/IP servers (sendmail, telnetd, ftpd, and
the NFS client) the swapfile jumps up to 8M. Loading windows 3.1 desktop the
swapfile grows to 12-14M depending how many OS/2 apps were loaded. Even when
no OS/2 application is loaded but the windows desktop is in the background
everything slows down, the computer does not do almost anything than trashing
the HD. Is it the way it supposed to work? Or did I do some stupid?
I have HPFS with /CACHE:128, MEMMAN=SWAP, PROTECT and SWAPPATH=C:\OS2\SYSTEM
2048 4096. Also when I set MEMMAN=NOSWAP the computer just stopped after
the logo with a c5000000 message.

I would appreciate any information.    

George
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim)
Subject: Re: Don't put program shadows on Desktop!
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 03:01:42 GMT

mvp@hsv3.lsil.com (Mike Van Pelt) writes:

>Oh, OK.  Unless I'm more confused than I think I am, here's another way
>to think of it for us Unixoids:

>A shadow is a hard link (and unlike Unix hard links, must have the same
>name) and a program object is a symbolic link.

>Sort of.  For one thing, shadows are distinct from the "original",
>which isn't true of Unix hard links.

That's a good way to think of it.  But a program object can also have
shadows (which is why it confuses a lot of people).  Can you have a
hard link to a symbolic link to a file under Unix?
-- 
John H. Kim                 | (This space to be filled when I
jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu | think of something very clever 
uunet!jarthur!jokim         | to use as a disclaimer)
From: checker@acf5.NYU.EDU (checker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: VSVGA.SYS nonsense
Date: 7 Oct 92 05:37:14 GMT
Organization: New York University

mlord@bmers63.bnr.ca (Mark Lord) writes:
>Don't forget the bvhsvga.sys replacement!!  VERY important for 
>curing fullscreen DOS/OS2 vrs. WPShell switching problems!

I tried it today but it didn't help.  What are the dates on your copies
of the relevant files?

Chris