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From: Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong)
Subject: BOSTON: Glen Murray Status
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:49:24 GMT

Boston has called up every Tom, Dick and Harry from Providence this year,
except for Glen Murray. Why was he sent down? Isn't he worth another look?

Word Association: What do you say when I say, "Lemelin"?

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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Stan Fischler, 12/27
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:53:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.171443.6253@news.columbia.edu> gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes:
>
>* The latest round of the Phil Housley sweepstakes in Winnipeg have
>the Rangers interested if Brian Leetch's stretched nerve continues to
>look bad or gets worse ... Tony Amonte' and Jeff Beukeboom are said
>to be part of a package either the Jets want or the Rangers offer.
>

I think I just heard on The Fan in Toronto that Olczyk has been
traded to the Rangers for Domi and King...

>* The Dream Team(s) for the next Olympics is dead, due to it being
>"mechanically impossible" according to Lightning gov David Lefebvre.
>[I nearly threw up over how badly Stan mispronounced "Lefebvre"!]
>

MSG and other arenas are probably booked for other events in September
1993 and June 1994 already...this is one of the things I was hoping 
would screw things up.  I was hoping for logistical reasons, because
on can never rely on common sense when it comes to NHL owners...I hope
Stan is right on this one.

Gerald
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: WJHC: Stats
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 03:04:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec25.223412.27497@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>In article <1992Dec25.192113.29517@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>
>>There aren't that many players in the NHL who are 22 and under...pretty
>>much only the exceptional talent makes it before age 22.  If you
>
>How few?  I see at least these (and I am sure this is not a full list):
>(These are players taken in the past 4 drafts (for '89 and '90, only the first
>2 rounds, since that is all I have :-), who have played at least one game in
>the NHL, whose age is known to me and not over 26)
>

A slightly more accurate list...

Establish regulars under 22 in the NHL...criterion 20 GP this
season as of the third week of December...(5 GP for a goaltender)

 1 Boston -- no established regular under 22 
 2 Buffalo -- Brad May 
 3 Calgary -- Robert Reichel
 4 Chicago -- no established regular under 22
 5 Detroit -- Keith Primeau, Mike Sillinger
 6 Edmonton -- Louie DeBrusk
 7 Hartford -- Geoff Sanderson, Patrick Poulin, Robert Petrovicky
               Michael Nylander
 8 Los Angeles -- Daryl Sydor
 9 Minnesota -- Mike Craig, Derian Hatcher, Richard Matvichuk
10 Montreal -- Patrice Brisbois
11 New Jersey -- Bobby Holik, Scott Niedermayer
12 Islanders -- Scott Lachance, Darius Kasparaitus 
13 Rangers -- Alexei Kovalev, Doug Weight
14 Ottawa -- no established regular under 22
15 Philadelphia -- Eric Lindros
16 Pittsburgh -- Jaromir Jagr
17 Quebec -- Mats Sundin, Mike Ricci, Martin Rucinsky
             Bill Lindsay, Owen Nolan
18 San Jose -- Pat Falloon, Sandis Ozolnich
19 St. Louis -- no established regular under 22
20 Tampa Bay -- Roman Hamrlik
21 Toronto -- Rob Pearson, Drake Berehowsky, Felix Potvin
22 Vancouver -- Pavel Bure, Petr Nedved
23 Washington -- no established regular under 22
24 Winnipeg -- Keith Tkachuk

Probables(?) -- Zhitnik LA, Malakhov NYI, Yuskevich PHI

I'm sure you'll correct me if I missed anyone...I did it quickly...

So there are between 35 and 40 players under 22 in the NHL playing
on a regular basis...a little over 5% of the players...and their
are only a handful of them that are a dominant or a significant
contributor.  I would not doubt that some shrewd general
managers would "lend" their 20 and 21 year olds to the Olympic
program for player development as Pat Quinn did with a 21-year old
Adrian Plavsic last year.  Many of the other young players in the minor
leagues could be loaned to an Olympic program without much effect
on the NHL team.
	       

Gerald
From: ch218@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Erik A. Horn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHLPA'93 on SEGA Genesis
Date: 25 Dec 1992 22:37:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I also own that gane and I am quite pleases with it.  Here is 
some helpful tips I have found.
-When one-on-one against the goalie, go in on the middle,
and swirve before you shoot, a wrist shoot works well here.
 
-The Blackhawks and the Pens seem to be the best, tho I always
use the Kings.
 
-When taking the puck to the opponents net, make sure the computer
has gotten all your players on the right side of the blue line,
occasionally it will be slow and you will get penalized.
 
All in all, a great game.  I also have seen ads out for 
Gretzky III, which will be cool if it hits the console market,
if not I will just have to get the P.C. vers.
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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Jets acquire Domi (Was: Rangers acquire Olczyk from Winnipeg)
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:19:35 GMT

jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu (James J. Murawski) writes:
>
>On 28-Dec-92 in Re: Rangers acquire Olczyk ..
>user Gary L Dare@cunixb.cc.co writes:
>>If Mike Smith and his crew can turn Domi into the Dave Lumley/Mark
>>Hunter-style player but with the brass balls to back up his guff,
>
>Q:  When will Probert and Domi go at it again?
>
>A:  Not in this regular season, as the season series between
>    Winnipeg and Detroit is over.

And, I wonder if that Rangers-Red Wings game in January will now be
switched back to regular Michigan TV from Pay-Per-View? (-; (-; (-;

gld
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From: cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (Dave (Kirk Muller) Lisogurski)
Subject: test
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 07:40:51 GMT


This is just a test.
Please disregard.
This means *you* Steve!!!


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- Lisogurski       -      5 players over 80 pts (#11, 18, 23, 25, 47)        -
- Toronto, Canada  -  Montreal Expos win National East in 1993 MLB season    _
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From: smith@phobos.cira.colostate.edu
Subject: Re: Trade Rumour
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:36:11 GMT
Reply-To: smith%sol.dnet@sirius.cira.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State Univ, CIRA

In article <1992Dec29.000858.12184@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>In article <Dec28.232246.64202@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> smith%sol.dnet@sirius.cira.colostate.edu writes:
>>>
>>>>I doubt that Joe Murphy could play well for Pat Burns...Burns cannot
>>>>tolerate individuality...some players can play in a totalitarian
>>>>environment...I don't think Joe Murphy is one of them. 
>>>
>>>I agree with Gerald's comments, in addition, Toronto will lose such a character player like Wendel Clark, who is so much liked by the fans.  I don't think it will be a good trade for either team.  Clark is too old to fit in Edmonton's long range rebuilding plan and Murphy and Tikkanan are two loose canons.
>>>
>>
>>I think far more important than how Murphy would get along with Burns is how
>>he fits in with his potential linemates, like Cullen for example. As far as 
>>Wendel Clark is concerned, with character players like him, who needs
>>enemies!!!
>>
>
>Pat Burns has already destroyed the confidence of every young player in
>the Leafs organization in half-a-season...Potvin, Manderville, Pearson,
>Sacco, Berehowsky, etc.  In Montreal, there was Laperierre and Ruel to
>build the young guys back up...will Marc Crawford in St. John's be as
>effective in doing this as Montreal's behind the scenes coaches...who
>knows.
>
>Burns will be Fletcher's albatross...Bob Johnson, he ain't! 
>
>Gerald

So Bob Johnson he ain't, but Burns is no dummy either. I am perplexed about
your comments on the confidence of the young Toronto players. Have any of them
made public comments that would indicate that their confidence has been
destroyed?  Burns' job is to get the Leafs in the playoffs. He should be given
that chance and Fletcher is certainly helping with the wheeling and dealing 
part of it. Pat Burns can worry about the young players and their fragile
confidence after he accomplishes his primary mission.  By the way Pearson
had a very good game recently, hardly typical of a victim of destroyed 
confidence!

Smitty
smith%sol.dnet@sirius.cira.colostate.edu

>
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From: mmaccorm@fox.nstn.ns.ca (Mike Mac Cormack)
Subject: Re: Where is Chris Nilan ????
Organization: Micronav International
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:40:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.203950.19469@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> kristman@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Dan Kristmanson) writes:
>Does anyone know where Chris Nilan is nowadays ???


>Just Wondering
>Dan


Who Cares???

Mike Mac Cormack
Micronav International Inc
P.O.Box 1523 / 104 Marine Drive
Sydport Industrial Park,
Sydney, N.S. Canada B1P 6R7
Tel: 902-564-8833      Fax: 902-564-8764
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From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Subject: Re: Pro Hockey TV listing (please help me edit this thing!)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 06:00:06 GMT

In article <1hlfpbINNgnq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Rickin) writes:
>
>THe following is a listing for TV of the pro hockey leagues.  Please
>help, especially with all the other leagues (minors)
>NHL TV Listing; Compiled by Eric Rickin (ab870@cleveland.freenet.edu)
>
>Symbols: !=Cable shows home, Local shows away; %=Same crew does all broadcasts;
>         &=Cable System
>
>Winnipeg Jets          CKY-7               Peter Young
>

This is last year's information.  This year, the Jets are found on
CKND (channel 9 / local cable 12) with Bruce Buchanan doing the play by
play and former Flame Jim Peplinski doing the color.


Daryl Turner : r.s.h contact for the Winnipeg Jets 
Internet: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca -or- daryl.turner@mailbox.bison.mb.ca 
FidoNET: 1:348/701 -or- 1:348/4  (please route through 348/700)
Tkachuk over to Zhamnov, up to Selanne, he shoots, he scores! 
The Jets win the Cup!  The Jets win the Cup!
Essensa for Vezina!  Housley for Norris!  Selanne for Calder!
From: hotz@argon.cs.umanitoba.ca (Ken Hotz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Rookie of the Year Prospects
Date: 3 Jan 93 19:42:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

In article <1hvm38INNbie@hp-col.col.hp.com>, smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
> 
> Since I moved to Colorado, I haven't got to see Winnipeg play this year.  
> Juneau I'm more familiar with.  Points for Selanne:  1) He's the main 
> offensive threat on his team, and has accomplished what he has while 
> (I would think) he is personally the man other teams want to stop. 
> Juneau is the #2 gun on his line; oates is the main one.  So Juneau 
> has more help in scoring than Selanne does.   Points for Juneau, he 
> plays on a team not known for its scoring, esp. without Neely.  He 
> is a good all-around player, and he's *tough*.  

I have only seen Juneau play once so I can not comment on his play 
(I assume his numbers speak for themselves). If by refering to Juneau
as tough to exclude Selanne, then perhaps Scott Mellanby from Edm
could elaborate on how hard it is to knock him down.
In the New Years eve game Mellanby ran at Selanne, who was near the
boards, Selanne ended up hitting Mellanby and knocking him on his butt.
This sort of thing has happened on several occasions. Selanne is not
going to play a tough bump-and-grind game, but he dishes out as many
good body checks as he receives. Players are finding it is difficult
to knock him off the puck. He also doesn't cheap shot people while
taking tons of abuse. Selanne is thinking of starting a towing
company based on what he does during a game. I suppose people in
Edm, LA, and Pitts, etc have to put up with this sort of thing
with Gretzky, Lemieux, Yzerman etc and it comes with the territory.
Its no secret that Domi and King will have to take care of things
the officials will not. During his first skate with the Jets, Domi
spent five minutes alone with Selanne taking about "things".
Last night in New Jersey, Geurrin (sp?) took a shot at Housley and
King immediately stepped in and took care of things. Hopefully it is
a sign of things to come.
A further note on ticket sales here last week: Despite cold temps
(even by Winnipeg standards :-)) there were also 5000 tickets
sold from the trade on Mon to the game against Edm on Thurs.
I don't expect that all these sales can be attributed to Domi
and King, but certainly a significant amount can.
> Walter 
>
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Kings trade Kudelski
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:07:42 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.

Kudelski is 6' 1", 200 lbs, and is 28 years old.  He was the Kings' first
pick (2nd overall) in the 1986 supplemental draft.  Here are his stats up to
this season:  (He has 3 goals and 4 assists, but I am not sure how many games
he played thus far)

Season	Team		GP	G	A	PIM
'83-'84	Yale (ECAC)	21	14	12	12
'84-'85	Yale		32	21	23	38
'85-'86	Yale		30	25	22	34
'86-'87	Yale		30	25	22	34
'87-'88	Los Angeles	26	0	1	8
	New Haven (AHL)	50	15	19	41
'88-'89	Los Angeles	14	1	3	17
	New Haven	60	32	19	43
'89-'90	Los Angeles	62	23	13	49
'90-'91	Los Angeles	72	23	13	46
'91-'92	Los Angeles	80	22	21	49

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
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rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
From: bson@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Jan Brittenson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NY Rangers games around 18-20 January 1993
Date: 29 Dec 92 16:47:45
Organization: nil
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In-reply-to: tarkkone@klaava.Helsinki.FI's message of 28 Dec 92 22:17:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.221717.4513@klaava.Helsinki.FI> tarkkone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lauri Tarkkonen) writes:

 > I will probably be in New York City between 18th and 20t of January
 > Are the rangers playing any games on either the 18th or 19th, if
 > they are, who is the wisitor.

   Funny you should ask... On the 19th the Bruins will be there,
probably pretty fired up, having folded in and blown a 5-2 lead in the
last 7 minutes of the third period this past Sunday -- after
outplaying the Rangers for two and a half periods. That should make a
pretty good game on the 19th!

   Too bad I'll be out somewhere in the Belize rain forest hiking and
canoeing and lugging around photo equipment then. Games are much less
fun on tape.

--
						-- Jan Brittenson
						   bson@gnu.ai.mit.edu
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: WJHC: Stats
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 01:30:22 GMT

In article <9212242250.AA00341@booth.usask.ca> glc39@booth.usask.ca (Glenn Chin) writes:

>Prior to, I believe, 1982, Canada sent a club team to the WJHC.  Since
>then, we have sent all-star teams that consisted of most of our best under-20
>players.  With the development of hockey in USA and Europe (outside ex-USSR), we
>can no longer play with under-20 players who are not yet ready for the NHL and
>expect to do very well.
>
>I think the gap in the cumulative standings since 1982 between USSR/CIS and
>Canada is narrower.

And so much for Gerald's argument that it's more important to have a team that
has played together than to have talent on the team, period.

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: A couple of questions?
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 06:49:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec22.230903.1@husky1.stmarys.ca> gen5061@husky1.stmarys.ca writes:
>Another couple of quick questions before I go on Christmas break.
>
>Me and a guy I work with were discussing hockey tonight and we were talking
>about the greatest hockey game I ever saw.  It was the Canada Cup in 86, I
>think, I am really not quite sure about the year but Wayne Gretzky and Mario
>Lemieux were playing on the same line when they scored a go ahead goal in the
>third.  It was a goal against the soviets that would determine the winner of
>the Canada Cup, the next game in the tornament was against Sweden but, it was
>anticlimatical in comparison to the game against the  Soviets.
>I want to know if the other forward was Dale Hawerchuk and who the defensemen
>were?  Larry Murphy and and someone else is what I thought but the guy I work
>with disagrees.
>

You've got two Canada Cups mixed up into one...in 1984, Canada played
the Soviets in the semi-final game, and won either late in the third,
but I think it was in overtime...Paul Coffey had just made the signature
play of the tournament breaking up a two-on-one, and about a minute
later John Tonelli dug the puck out of the corner to the right of the
Soviet goal and got it back to Coffey at the point, whose shot was 
deflected by Mike Bossy.  Canada went on to beat Sweden in the finals.

Mario and Wayne teamed up in the 1987 Canada Cup...where the final
was composed of three 6-to-5 games, with the first two in overtime,
and Mario scored late in regulation on a pass from Wayne.

Gerald
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From: hamlet@stein.u.washington.edu (Mitch McGowan)
Subject: Minnesota-St. Louis Summary
Summary: North Stars 2, Blues 2 (OT)
Keywords: hockey, men's professional
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 16:21:16 GMT

                         Blues 2, North Stars 2
        At Bloomington, Minn., Russ Courtnall blasted an unscreened shot
from center ice past Curtis Joseph with 6:41 left in the third period to
extend the Blues' winless streak to five games (0-4-1). St. Louis has
failed to win a game at the Met Center in seven tries (0-4-3). The North
Stars have just one victory in their last six (1-3-2). 

St Louis                         1 1 0 0--2
Minnesota                        1 0 1 0--2
        First period--1, Minnesota, Dahlen 11 (Gagner, Sjodin), pp, 10:15.
2, St Louis, Brown 12 (Shanahan, Janney), 11:01. Penalties--Shanahan, Stl,
0:47; Churla, Min, 0:47; Shanahan, Stl, 5:27; Butcher, Stl, 6:17; Craig,
Min, 6:17; Hull, Stl, 9:19; Shanahan, (served by Chase), Stl, major-game
misconduct, 14:28; Craig, (served by Dahlen), Min, 14:28; Churla, Min,
16:49; Elik, Min, 17:48. 
        Second period--3, St Louis, Hull 18 (Ruff), 16:51.
Penalties--Bozon, Stl, 9:13; Gavin, Min, 9:13; Wilson, Stl, 10:09; Elik,
Min, 10:09; Modano, Min, 10:45; RoSutter, Stl, 13:20; Ruff, Stl, 19:27;
Giles, Stl, 19:54. 
        Third period--4, Minnesota, Courtnall 12 (Sjodin), 13:19.
Penalties--Hull, Stl, 16:46; Baron, Stl, 19:56. 
        Overtime--No scoring. Penalties--none. 
        Shots on goal--St Louis 9-11-7-2--29. Minnesota 9-12-17-2--40. 
        Power-play conversions--St. Louis 2-0. Minnesota 8-1. 
        Goaltenders--St Louis, Joseph. Minnesota, Casey. A--13,801. 
        Referee--Hoggarth. 

--
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and maintainer of the r.s.h FAQ file
Mitch McGowan a.k.a.    | KALAMAZOO WINGS  | MINNESOTA NORTH STARS |
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: SHARKS NEWS: Maley acquired, Bawa recalled
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:06:36 GMT

Yesterday, the Sharks claimed left-wing David Maley off waivers from the
Edmonton Oilers, and called up right-wing Robin Bawa from the Kansas City
Blades.

Maley, 29, was initially drafted by the Montreal Canadiens in the 4th round
of the 1982 draft, but had spent most of his career with the New Jersey Devils
until he was traded to the Oilers last season in exchange for Troy Mallette.
Here are some stats of his: (last season's are kind of incomplete)

Maley, David.	LW.	S: L	6' 2", 195 lbs.

Season	Team			GP	G	A	PIM
'82-83	U. of Wisconsin (WCHA)	47	17	23	24
'83-84	U. of Wisconsin		38	10	28	56
'84-85	U. of Wisconsin		38	19	9	86
'85-86	U. of Wisconsin		42	20	40	135
	Montreal		3	0	0	0
'86-87	Montreal		48	6	12	55
	Sherbrooke (AHL)	11	1	5	25
'87-88	New Jersey		44	4	2	65
	Utica (AHL)		9	5	3	40
'88-89	New Jersey		68	5	6	249
'89-90	New Jersey		67	8	17	160
'90-91	New Jersey		64	8	14	151
'91-92	Total			60	10	17	104
	New Jersey		?	7	11	42
	Edmonton		?	3	6	62

Bawa was acquired a couple weeks ago for defenseman Rick Lessard, from the
Vancouver organization.  Here are his stats:  (I don't have last year's)

Bawa, Robin.	RW.	S: R	6' 2", 214 lbs.

'82-83	Kamloops (WHL)		66	10	24	17
'83-84	Kamloops		64	16	28	40
'84-85	Kamloops		52	6	19	45
'85-86	Kamloops		63	29	43	78
'86-87	Kamloops		62	57	56	91
'87-88	Fort Wayne (IHL)	55	12	27	239
'88-89	Baltimore (AHL)		75	23	24	205
'89-90	Washington		5	1	0	6
	Baltimore		61	7	18	189
'90-91	Fort Wayne		72	21	26	381

These moves surprise me.  Can you say "Malice at the Palace"?  (That was a
phrased coined by the San Jose Mercury News, when the Sharks initially appeared
to be ready to open the season with guys like Link Gaetz, Craig Coxe, Kevin
Evans, et al., on the roster.)  They do not fill any voids left by the injuries
to Sandis Ozolinsh and Pat MacLeod, unless either of these guys can play
defenseman.  One possibility would be rookie Rob Gaudreau being moved back to
defense.

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: etam@fraser.sfu.ca (Edwin Tam)
Subject: Re: edmonton oilers 
Keywords: trades     
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:43:19 GMT

golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:

>and they still should make the playoffs this year...and with
>Ranford, a playoff upset or two is always possible.

I'm no Winnipeg fan, but I think in the long run, Winnipeg will make
the playoffs and the Oilers will bow out.  In my opinion, Winnipeg is
clearly the better team - they certainly have a better offence.  I
think only the Ottowa Senators have scored less than the Oilers. 

Ranford can only help his team so much - if they aren't scoring, he
can't go out and score for them.

Signed,
A Vancoucouver Canuck fan.

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