From: chuj@horton.Colorado.EDU (CHU JEFFREY)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: PeeCees?!? AAAAAAAAAAAHA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:48:48 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

In article <1992Jul27.131608.29939@crash.cts.com> hawk@pnet01.cts.com (John Anderson) writes:
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>>>I don't think A500 and 386 system have roughly the same price. For the      
>>>price of A500, you just can get the 386 mother board unless you buy it      
>>>as second hand. However, A500 has already had 4096 colors, 4 channels 8     
>>>bit sound, all external port, floppy drive, mouse...                        
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>>Last I seen, a 386-40 was $199.00 m/b w/cpu and a SX20 was $106.00.  And     
>>a 24-Bit card (DIAMOND SPEEDSTAR 24, 16.7 million colors at 640x480 and      
>>32000 at 800x600 etc...) was $159.00.                                        
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>Ok, you wanna play the hack-it-together motherboard game? Let's see here...   
>I can get a 68000 motherboard (not quite a 386, but compares to a 286, but    
>then again you said SX so it's the 16 bit MAJOR SLOWDOWN model) for $99.95.   

Or if you say compares to 286, why not go into a 286 mb for $50.00

>Comes with built in 4096 color graphics, serial port, parallel port, stereo   
>sound, custom graphics chip, custom audio chip and is the design of a bunch   
>of "true" hackers, not the kludgey kind.                                      

4096 at a lower rez compare to 16.7 million colors at 640x480 rez, that is
very much of an improvement would'nt you say?  Add SB for $99.00, we get
a 286, with 24-Bit card, SB all together for around $309.00. or $359.00 for
the SX model.  Yes its about $100.00 more, yet the sound/graphics is worth
the upgrade.

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>>>If you can buy AdSpeed,($149 from Montgomery, new) you will have the        
>>>power of low end 386 system.                                                
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>>AdSpeed, thats the accelerator which contains the 68000-16 right?  If that's 
>>right than what your saying is that a 68000-16 is the speed of a 68030-16    
>>right?Which a 030-16 is comparable to a 386SX20 running windows 3.0 (Mac ads)

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>Mac ads say that a 16MHz 68030 is the same speed as 20MHz 80386SX? SX? The    
>16 bit kludge?? You've *got* to be kidding. Anyway, like the man says you can 

Look before assumptions.

>get the adspeed for $150. Add that to the $100 and you have $250 for a 16MHz  
>68000 machine which includes color graphics, serial port, and parallel port.  
>

No, I'm not kidding, look at the latest ads of POWERBOOK series.
Wait, are you assuming that the A500 is $100?  What are you adding to AdSpeed
that cost $100?  Compare prices to prices on both sides, the A500 with monitor
and HD would cost more than this 24-BIT 386SX20 with SB and HD, SVGA monitor,
etc...