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From: tiot_kk@tac.fi (Kimmo Kauranen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: SM-LIIGA, Finland, November 10, 1992 (The Best scorers)
Date: 10 Nov 92 08:18:37 +0200
Organization: City of Tampere


SM-LEAGUE, Finland, November 10, 1992
=====================================

Pos.Player       Team              G  A  P  Pen.
------------------------------------------------
 1) Esa Keskinen TPS               7+22=29  ( 8)
 2) Juha Riihijarvi JyP HT        12+13=25  (18)
 3) Jari Lindroos JyP HT          10+15=25  ( 8)
 4) Erkki Laine Reipas            12+12=24  (16)
 5) Jiri Kucera Tappara            9+15=24  ( 6)
 6) Mikko Makela TPS               5+18=23  ( 8)
 7) Radek Toupal HPK               9+13=22  ( 6)
 8) Jari Korpisalo Assat          12+ 9=21  (61)
 9) Tomas Kapusta HPK             10+11=21  (16)
10) Otakar Janecky Jokerit         3+18=21  (42)
11) Jukka Vilander TPS            12+ 8=20  ( 2)
12) Kari Heikkinen Tappara        11+ 9=20  (14)
13) Sami Wahlsten Jokerit         11+ 9=20  (18)
14) Jukka Seppo HIFK               8+12=20  (22)
15) Jari Multanen Reipas           6+14=20  (51)
16) Keijo Sailynoja Jokerit       14+ 5=19  ( 8)
17) Vesa Viitakoski Tappara       11+ 8=19  ( 8)
18) Esa Tommila Ilves             10+ 9=19  ( 8)
19) Mika Lartama HPK               9+10=19  (10)
20) German Titov TPS              11+ 7=18  (35)
21) Ari Vuori TPS                 10+ 8=18  ( 4)
22) Arto Heiskanen Assat           9+ 9=18  ( 4)
23) Pekka Peltola Lukko            8+11=19  (28)
24) Vjatseslav Fandul Assat        7+11=18  (16)
25) Ville Peltonen HIFK            6+12=18  (10)
26) Teppo Kivela HIFK              6+12=18  (20)
27) Timo Jutila Tappara            5+13=18  (32)
28) Timo Saarikoski Lukko          4+14=18  ( 4)
29) Mikko Alatalo Lukko           10+ 7=17  (14)
30) Pekka Tuomisto HIFK            9+ 8=17  (14)
31) Erik Hamalainen Jokerit        9+ 8=17  (16)
32) Marko Jantunen KalPa           7+10=17  (39)
33) Rauli Raitanen Assat           6+11=17  ( 8)
34) Valeri Krykov HIFK             6+11=17  (20)
35) Vesa Salo KalPa                5+12=17  ( 6)
================================================
--                  
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Kimmo Kauranen  *  Department of Information Technology
                *  City of Tampere, FINLAND
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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri "Droopy" Farenell)
Subject: AHL transactions
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:33:12 GMT

AHL TRANSACTIONS
 
---San Jose defenseman Rick Lessard was assigned to Providence

---Adirondack signed forward Iain Duncan to a one-year contract.
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Bri Farenell			  	    |  GO PHOENIX SUNS!
Clarkson '95	       			    |  GO ARIZONA FOOTBALL!  (?!)
farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu            |  GO CLARKSON HOCKEY!
AHL and ECAC contact for rec.sport.hockey   |  GO USA HOCKEY!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
CONGRATULATIONS TO THE 1992 CALDER CUP CHAMPION ADIRONDACK RED WINGS!	
	     Calder Cup Champs: 1981 1986 1989 1992	



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From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Subject: Info on Duguay/Sweeney?
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:54:10 GMT


I was at the Salt Lake/San Diego (IHL) game last night and noticed Ron (is  
that his first name?) Duguay wasn't playing, wasn't sitting out, and  
wasn't listed on their current team roster. I thought that when he didn't  
make an NHL team this pre-season, he'd gone back to the Gulls.

Anyone know where he is, what he's doing, etc.? (And by the way, in the  
last minute of the game, San Diego scored to beat Salt Lake and take their  
amazing record to 9-0-1! Maybe we'll be the first to beat them *tomorrow*  
night?!)

Also, last I heard here, Tim Sweeney (former Calgary/Salt Lake and Team  
USA player) was now playing on Boston's (I think??) minor league team.

Anyone know exactly where he is and how he's doing?
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Subject: Re: TPS beats NHL teams ?
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:20:05 MST
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Nov4.140558.1@sara.cc.utu.fi>, tommikko@sara.cc.utu.fi writes:
> A little analysis on the best Finnish team:
> 
> TPS: Absolutely the best team in Finland. I think they could beat many
>      NHL teams. They have a brilliant coach:V.Jursinov from Moscow Dynamo.
>      They have trained very hard and systematically.

Just my 2 cents here: There's been a lot of talk here lately about whether or
not Swedish and Finnish teams could beat NHL teams. Somebody even went so far
as to say that Ottawa would win the Finnish league championship if they played
in Finland. I think it largely depends on whether they used NHL rules or 
European rules. If the smaller NHL rink was used, then the North American teams
would likely win due to their emphasis on size and strength, which is better
suited for the small rinks. If the larger European rinks were used, then the
Finnish teams would have the edge, because of their emphasis on speed and 
skating ability over size. It depends on what rules you use.

BTW, I don't think Ottawa could contend in the Finnish league even in NHL-sized
rinks. They have nobody who can score.....

							Alan

Organization: Freshman, Drama, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:46:30 -0500 
From: Elizabeth Amral Pereira <ep2k+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: True fans
	<farenebt.721149488@craft.camp.clarkson.edu>
Distribution: na

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.hockey: 7-Nov-92 Re: True fans Bri
Farenell @craft.camp (1969)

> ON the contrary, it probably makes you moreof a fan. Let's face it"
> if you were a fair-weather fan and they lost, you'd be like, "Oh
> well, no biggie." But I know that whenever the Bruins lose, you can
> here my cursing for a 10 mile radius. It's because I love the team
> so much and want to see them win every game. Just because you like
> a team, doesnt predispsose you to always saying good thigns about it
> no matter how bad theyre playing; it simply means that you have to
> smack a non=Cancuks fan when they say the same thing you do. :)


Here, Here. I don't always agree on how the Bruins play their games, but
they will always be number one in my book.  I think that sticking with a
team no matter what is what shows loyalty, not if you make fun of their
name or not.  I mean I follow other teams like the Pens, espedcially
since I'm out in Pittsburgh now, but whenever the play the Bruins, it's
B's all the  way.  And as of now, I have no gripes with the B's.

Liz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: marshall@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Jim Marshall - DCS)
Subject: Kevin Stevens
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:47:23 GMT


Hi, anyone know if Kevin Stevens was hurt during last nights Pits game?
I hear on the T.V. (I was watching Toronto's game), that he had left
the ice with an injury, but I didn't hear any further details.

**************************************************************************

Jim Marshall

Dept.of Computing Services
University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario
Canada

**************************************************************************

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From: snedden@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (lyn g snedden)
Subject: WANTED:  Minnesota Northstars jersey
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:37:58 GMT


I live in Columbus, Ohio and have not had any luck in finding
a Northstars jersey in any of the stores around here.

I would appreciate any information that would help me find
a place to order a jersey from.  

Please reply to Lyn at:

lyn@tiger.eng.ohio-state.edu
(or just reply to this post)

Thanks!



-- 
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#  Lyn Snedden                                                       #
#  lyn@tiger.eng.ohio-state.edu   OR snedden@cis.ohio-state.edu      #
######################################################################
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Jari Kurri Reborn?
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:19:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Irvine


In article <1992Nov12.162737.6631@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> coop4y44@bnr.ca
(Lorraine Galvin) writes:
>So what's with Jarri Kurri this year?  His production had trailed off
>considerably in his last few seasons with Edmonton, and his return to the NHL
>with the Kings last (?) season was less than sensational, but this season he
>seems to be playing like a man (re-)possessed!
>
>He appears to be playing with Robitaille and Sandstrom, and all three
>are on a tear.  Anyone in LA care to comment on Kurri's, and LA's,
>transformation?


The Kings transformation can be explained in two simple words . . .

              BARRY MELROSE!  

The Kings have always had the talent to be a great team but not
the guidance to pull together as a team and give 100% physical
as well as mental effort to the game.  With Rogie Vachon out  
as GM and Wayne Gretzky's personal ties with  upper management no
longer a hindrance, Melrose has actually been allowed to, oh my gosh :),
COACH this team (which is what Tom Webster was not allowed to do last
year without alot of unsolicited advice (translated into "you do what
WE think is best or else") from the front office.

Nick Beverly (the new GM) has eliminated players being able to
go "over the head" of the coach to upper management, which has
allowed Melrose to maintain control of decisions made regarding
the team.  He has been given the control to bench players (even
veterans) who are not playing up to their potential, and he requires
a certain level of commitment and discipline in training and
pre-game practices to ensure the team does not become too "comfortable"
with their position.

This is just my opinion, but I think the new coach and GM have alot
to do with the Kings turn around . . .

Kristina
kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu

GO KINGS!!

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From: fdg@McRCIM.McGill.EDU (Frank P. DiGiuseppe)
Subject: Re: U.S. "Dream Team"
Organization: McGill Research Centre for  Intelligent Machines
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 05:07:06 GMT


In article <1992Nov9.210308.21923@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
|> [stuff about Olympic hockey dream teams deleted...]
|> 
|> What hockey needs is a proper World Cup...not a publicity stunt where
|> the Russians are likely to humiliate the Canadian and American teams.

I fail to see this last point. All the best Russians (and Ukranians, and
Latvians...etc.) are now playing in the NHL. It seems to me that the Russians
will have just as much difficulty getting a team to "gel" as the Canadians
and Americans will in the short time that will be available. And any 
"pre-existing" national team the Russians may already have in existence will
likely be pretty weak in talent. I don't see how you could predict a 
"humiliating" outcome for any team?

Frank



-- 
Frank P. DiGiuseppe	McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
fdg@mcrcim.mcgill.edu	"Oh, I have slipped the surly bonds of earth
	    And danced the skies on laughter-silvered wings;" - J.G. Magee Jr.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: bart@splunge.uucp (Barton Oleksy)
Subject: Re: Answer to my own "Manon" question!
Organization: Ashley, Howland & Wood
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 05:35:33 GMT

U16028@uicvm.uic.edu writes:

>Chris told me that Manon is playing for the Atlanta Knights, the Tampa Bay
>farm club.  She has been signed to a 3 year developmental contract, which
>means that she practices with the team, plays some games, makes some road
>trips, and is being brought along slowly and steadily.

I also heard (read in the paper) that she had a clause put in her contract
so she wouldn't just be exploited as a "freak" or whatever.

Bart, Edmonton, Alberta Canada
bart@splunge.uucp

>Terry
>***********************************************************************
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 17:54:20 -0500 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Wrens escape Lightning burns


>Okay I made a mistake!  I'm wrong - I don't give a damn what you call any
>hockey team - go ahead and do it.  I don't care.  It's not the first time
>I've made a mistake, and it's not going to be the last time either. (Sorry
>to disappoint all of you.) Go Wrens - No. 1 at 11-1-2!

Ah...this makes me SO happy.  A sense of humor and a sense of sarcasm.
You will go far in this group, Rob.  Hoard your ammunition.  You'll need
it in May.

Mom.

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From: S1.JON@isumvs.iastate.edu (Jon Wells)
Subject: Re: rules
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:47:20 GMT

In article <Bx3GwJ.AJE@mach1.wlu.ca>,
jdozois6@mach1.wlu.ca (james dozois 9208 G) writes:
>Did anybody watch the LEAFS/sabres game last week?  What exactly is an
>attempt to spear penalty?  I've never heard of this.  It seems like a bone
>head call, especially when you consider Dougie was a) trying to hook him b)
>didn't come close.
>
>

Spearing is a very serious penalty, as is attempting to spear.  USA
Hockey defines spearing as "the action of poking or attempting to
poke an opponent with the tip of the blade of the stick while
holding the stick with one or both hands."  The NCAA defines it as
"...stabbing an opponent with the point of the stick blade while the
stick is being carried with one or both hands." and goes on to say
"Attempt to spear shall include all cases where a spearing gesture
is made, regardless of whether bodily contact is made."  In either
case, spearing or attempt to spear, the penalty is the same.  I
don't know for sure exactly what the penalty is for spearing in the
NHL, but it is at least a 5-minute major and a game misconduct, if
not a Match penalty.

--Jon
From: tiok_jk@tac.fi (Juha Koivisto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Finland-Sweden November 12th (Junior teams)
Date: 13 Nov 92 17:09:23 +0200
Organization: City of Tampere

Kalajoki, Finland, 12th November, 1992

Junior teams (players are 18 years old or younger):

FINLAND - SWEDEN  4-3   (2-1, 1-0, 1-2)

1st period:
  5.55  2 min  Viherva F 
  6.01   0-1   Joakim Andersson (Jonas Junkka)  (pp)
  8.18  2 min  Mikael Tjallden S 
  8.33  2 min  Junkka S 
 11.25   1-1   Mikko Helisten (Jani Hassinen) 
 11.51   2-1   Tero Lehtinen (Juha Vuorivirta - Teemu Viherva) 
 15.31  2 min  Vuorivirta F 
 19.15  2 min  Vuorivirta F 
2nd period:
 23.06   3-1   Hassinen 
 26.26  2 min  Stefan Bergkvist S 
 27.36  2 min  Antti Aalto F 
 30.23  2 min  Viherva F 
 35.05  2 min  Fredrik Lindh S 
 37.19  2 min  Viherva F 
3rd period:
 45.48  2 min  Kimmo Lotvonen F 
 55.52   3-2   Max Wikman (Peter Strom) 
 56.45   4-2   Ismo Kuoppala (Pekka Karkkainen - Helisten) 
 57.34  2 min  Viherva F 
 58.15   4-3   Joakim (Andersson - Jens Ostling)  (pp)

Penalties: Finland 8 x 2 min, Sweden 4 x 2 min
Saves:     Jussi Markkanen F 16+13+19=48
           Jonas Forsberg S 7+6+9=22
Referees:  Pekka Haajanen (Juhani Heikkinen - Pekka Kruus)
Attendance: 396

Finland and Sweden will play again today (Nov 13) in Haukipudas and 
saturday (Nov 14) in Kauhava.

-- 
Juha Koivisto   *  Department of Information Technology
tiok_jk@tac.fi  *  City of Tampere, Finland
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From: mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster)
Subject: Re: CHL:  FANS !!!
Originator: usenet@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:51:24 GMT
Organization: University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK


[ Ted's somewhat mangled text deleted ]

I do know that Oklahoma City coach Mike McEwen has a working agreement with
the Boston/Providence Bruins, and possibly a few other teams...

Come on people, there has to be more that a dozen of you who are interested
in this new league.  It's popularity is already rivaling the ECHL's, and
many of the teams are in the top 10 in attendance in all of minor league
hockey-dom.  Just think about what this league would be like if we could get
some real players... an entire league of San Diegos???

To get on the CHL mailing list, send a request to either:

mfoster@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu   
or
twollnik@rdxsun11.aud.alcatel.com

Marc Foster
r.s.h co-contact for the CHL
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:01:47 EST
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Tuesday's game of the night!


In article <weyK2oC00WBKI4CmAn@andrew.cmu.edu>, Anna Matyas
<am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu> says:
>I understand that the game of the night is picked BEFORE it's played.  I
>didn't see your post until the following day but even if I had seen it
>beforehand, I would have disagreed.
>You're not looking for criticism after a game?  Am I *NOT ALLOWED* to disagree
>with your choices?  My point was that a game starring Brett Hull, who is off
>to a surprising start, and Chris Kontos, who is off to a different kind of
>surprising start, would be a darned good game to watch.
>
  No, criticism after a game is fine and in fact, should be debated, but I
thought you were criticizing my game of the night selection after it was
played and sure, anybody can find faults with the game of the night if it
turned out ot be a terrible, ugly game after it was played.  My mistake
though, you weren't criticizing it after the game was played.  I understand
now.
>If you post in this group anything you say is fair game.  I'm not trying to
>stir up a pot of trouble or insult you by any means, I'm simply expressing
>an opinion.  We all have that right.
 This is true and accurate.  I couldn't agree with you more.
>FINAL SCORE:  Clinton-1; Bush-ZERO.
  I'm happy too!-Rob
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From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio;6442;3.55;)
Subject: Re: Wrens escape Lightning burns
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 13:52:29 GMT

In article <Bx921H.A4y.1@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
>In article <92309.130943RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

[Iraqi-esque religious fervor deleted]

>My advice to you is this:  If you continue to read this board, either develop a 
>sense of humor or some thick skin.  Because you ain't seen nothing yet.  Just
>wait until it's time for the annual r.s.h. playoff free-for-all.  Talk about the
>gloves coming off...


Yes!  And being the [self-appointed] referee, I must hand out a
five-minute fighting penalty, a game misconduct plus two minutes to Rob
for instigation, while Lori gets a five minute for fighting.  Of
course, since you are both on the same side, I guess the opponents get
a 5-3 advantage for five minutes, followed by a two minute power-play.
I don't expect to see anything else from either of you until next
Friday at the earliest (assuming one USENET minute== 1 day, of
course...).  Pens bashing time!!!!!!

-JPC

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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Just wondering about Clinton
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:45:21 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.

In article <1dai90INNsm@gambier.rick.cs.ubc.ca> p7z092@rick.cs.ubc.ca (Anthony Jang) writes:
>Seeing as Bill Clinton won the election, what are the chances he can
>recognize Mario Lemieux?

"Who is Mario Lemieux?"

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Wrens escape Lightning burns
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:38:48 GMT

In article <73E7101C10000362@VB.CC.CMU.EDU> Tom Joyce <R602TJ06@VB.CC.CMU.EDU> writes:

<lots of blathering attacking Tom's perceived bias, not that it matters>

Take it to e-mail, guys.  

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: chin836@skdad.usask.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Daigle (Re: The Senators finish first!!!  (Sort of...))
Date: 13 Nov 1992 18:31:23 -0600
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Nov13.143821.1@minnie.imd.nrc.ca> kmews@minnie.imd.nrc.ca writes:
>I've heard a lot lately about this guy [Daigle] potentially breaking Mario's
>records.  Is it possible that he is the next Mario? How big is he?

Daigle weighs 175 pounds and is about six feet tall.  He'll likely grow some
more.  The last totals I saw are 72 points in 20 games, which extrapolates to
252 points over 70 games.  The total is less than Lemieux's 282, but more than
LaFontaine's 234 during 1982-83.

>Also, isn't he under suspension indefinitely for checking from behind?

An eight-game suspension for throwing an elbow at someone's head along the
boards.  NHL scouts in attendance probably jotted down the incident with glee.

Glenn
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Oates-Janney Trade revisited
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:52:09 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.185836.13791@athena.mit.edu> sancho@athena.mit.edu (Scott G Smith) writes:
>First of all
>
>5 years down the line if the bruins have 5 stanley cups (or at least 1)
>then i say that the trade will have served its purpose.

I disagree.  If Boston trades, tomorrow, Glen Murray and Reggie Lemelin for
Mario Lemieux, Kevin Stevens, Jaromir Jagr, and Tom Barrasso, it has an
excellent chance for a Cup.  But that is *not* due to the Oates/Janney trade;
it's due to the Lemieux trade.

>but i do not think that the trade will help st. louis move any closer to the 
>stanley cup now or any time within the next ten years

If it helps St. Louis, it's a good trade, no matter what happens to St. Louis
in the next X years.  If St. Louis trades Curtis Joseph for Patrick Roy, it
will probably still not win a Cup, but that doesn't mean that it would be a
bad trade to trade Joseph for Roy.

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Luc Robitaille for Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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