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From: knepley@CS.ColoState.EDU (Ranseus (Jim Knepley))
Subject: Re: soundcard for games
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:26:06 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

In article <1jte22INN5b1@gaia.ucs.orst.edu> schottd@ucs.orst.edu (Derek Schott) writes:
>If one were to purchase a soundcard for game software alone,
>which would be the best investment for the future?

For the future, Gravis Ultrasound.

Jim
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From: twong@civil.ubc.ca (Thomas Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Gravis BBS on Internet soon + other things....
Date: 28 Jan 1993 20:59:43 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Civil Engineering, U.B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: sam.civil.ubc.ca

In article <C1KKux.CBF@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca> tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones) writes:
>In article <1993Jan28.130934.18279@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> romad@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (domenico romano) writes:
>>I can't find Gravis BBS with name gravis.wimsey.bc.ca nor gravis.com.
>
>The post indicated this was a mail address not an anonymous ftp
>address in case that is what you are trying.
>
>But, I have a question. To what userid can I send to at the
>present gravis.wimsey.bc.ca or in the future to gravis.com?
>


Hhmmm....
I think it will be a true Internet link in that you can telnet on
and have it look like the BBS interface, or some such. Or at least
have ftp access cause what they were saying is that once they get
this thing setup, then you can use the network to access the BBS
and not have to pay for long distance calls to the BBS.

BUT, I think you're all jumping the gun here. They're _setting_
it up. Just got the link and I'm not sure if anything else was
set up yet. They'll have another announcement when things are up
and running.


Thomas.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: MOD players for SBPro
X-To: WILLIAM B DWINNELL
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 23:49:00 GMT

From wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell)
>Does anybody know where I can ftp a good .MOD file player for the SBPro,
>or at least for the SB? Thanx!

    Try WOWII.  It supports the pro and regular SB.

    (Sorry, I don't have the FTP site, but at least you have something to go
by)


    If you want a good allaround MOD player, get ModPlay PRO.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: O-6@sarpih.no (Student Fellesbruker)
Subject: Re: GUS - features and compatibility.
Organization: stfold Ingenirhyskole
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:14:11 GMT

In article <C1Itoy.Dro@news.iastate.edu> wity@iastate.edu (Senopati Pamungkas) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.124145.1@hfrd.dsto.gov.au> scarman@hfrd.dsto.gov.au writes:
>>1.I have an MT32 with MPU401, will the GUS coexist happily with this and
>>does it support the option to use both SBOS and MT32 as in some games eg.
>>Sierra type?

>I have MT-32 and GUS, and they coexist happily.  :)
>I have tried a few Sierra games that support MT-32 and SB together,
>no problem at all.

>>2.What is the sound quality like compared (subjectively) to the MT32/LAPC1?

>The sound quality??  IMO, MT-32 is better. 

>>3.Does it play the sound effects in Wolf3d well? Compared to the SB?

>Yup.

>>4.If I think the quality of the SBpro is poor playing music then would I
>>probably feel the same about the GUS?

>I think so if you use the GUS as a SB compatible.

>>5.Does the GUS have a MIDI interface?

>Yup, but it is not available yet.
It's available.... The midi interface as SoundBlaster

>>6.Will the GUS run in a XT?

Yes
>>7. Is there a FAQ? (should this be question 1 ;-)  )

>Nope, why don't you join GUS DIGEST mailing list?

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison)
Subject: Re: GUS comments and questions
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:04:21 GMT

In article <1jnj3n$pv0@agate.berkeley.edu> ssu@garnet.berkeley.edu writes:
>Now the questions:
>
>1. What are the bundled software packages that I heard will be included
>   with the card after Jan. 25?

Midisoft Recording Session from Midisoft Corporation and Power Chords from
Howling Dog Software.

>2. Will I be eligible for a free upgrade since I purchased the card
>   recently (Jan. 20)?
>
>3. If not, is the price $10 + $4, as I've seen posted?

Probably have to pay the $14.  I doubt that anyone will get them free. 
Gravis will probably up the price a bit.  But this is just a guess.

>4. How common have missing/damaged disks been for other people?

I had a bad disk 3 and have heard from MANY other people with a bad disk
or two.  This is something Gravis should seriously look into since not
everyone can easily ftp the correct disk.

>6. What is the general consensus on the best SBOS, 1.20, 1.22, or 1.23?

It seems to be a toss-up depending on which you prefer.

>7. Is the message from the Windows Media Player that 'This file may not
>   play correctly with the default MIDI setup.' supposed to appear, or
>   have I messed up the installation?

That's fine.  I'm guessing that it will go away when we get the new patch
set.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: meier@ee.umanitoba.ca (Martin Meier)
Subject: Re: Waveblaster & Roland sounds: good news
Organization: Elect & Comp Engineering, U of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba,Canada
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:30:39 GMT

In article <81705@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt0040a@prism.gatech.EDU (Tom Sorensen) writes:
> Some good info about the WaveBlaster-
> 
> Creative Labs has engineered it such that the WB will be able to run most
> games w/ Roland sound! You have to run a small program that tells the WB
> to load the Roland sounds (its not a TSR). The only caveat is that it doesn't
> support custom patches- this affects many Sierra games and a few others. Still,
> this means that the WB will come onto the market with a *HUGE* installed base
> of games it can exploit.
> 
> Since EMU is now owned by CL it is likely that the WB will make it to the
> retail market. Most estimates for combined SB+WB cost are around $330. High,
> but significantly less than a Roland or Multisound. Plus you get support
> for all games that use the SB.
> 
> Bad news- apparently someone made the bad choice of using rounding on the SB16
> w/ 8 bit samples. If you play an 8-bit sample on a SB-16 you may not get as
> clear of a sound as you should, since some bits will be rounded incorrectly
> (a 0 comes out as a 1). Hopefully CL will fire the engineer/manager in question
> and fix it in a later version of the board.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What about those people that already have defective boards. Will CL refund there
money or offer a free fix. Will CL have a recall on the boards(which they should).

Another question. Didn't these designers listen to the board BEFORE manufacturing
it? If you try any current game you'll get 8-bit samples. I would figure that
this would be one of the first tests preformed, not something the customers finds
out. I wonder what kind of surprises the first WB customers will get.


>           Tom Sorensen
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> "I believe OS/2 is destined to be the most important operating system,
> and possibly program, of all time." - Bill Gates, November, 1987
From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibmpc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: MIDI keyboard emulator...?
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:59:07 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <1993Jan26.224238.2136@wam.umd.edu> adhir@wam.umd.edu (Al Dhir) writes:
>Hello all...I have an interesting question:  I have a GUS and I love it.
>I am awaiting the new packages to be bundled with the GUS to start playing
>with making my own music.  My question is this:  I don't have a MIDI controller
>(a keyboard) and do not have the $$$ to get one.  However, I have played with

You can get a used midi keyboard for 40$. Who cares what sound it
produces, you have a GUS! Of course it will be a 3 octave keyboard without
touch sensitive keys, but hey it will sure be better than KBMIDI!

>the KBMIDI program and it provides a decent way to input MIDI data to a
>program.  Is there any way that I can actually record the MIDI data that
>KBMIDI poroduces into the MIDI sequencer I would be running?

I think i may have something. But as you know i have problems uploading so
i rarely upload huge files (i have lots of stuff like patches that i will
need to upload at one point or another...). So dont hold your breath, and
do check your local music shop.

Ciao,
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From: sl8nl@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: A few MODs won't play by GUSMOD
Date: 23 Jan 93 00:13:44 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1993Jan23.024039.18551@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, apollo@ee.ualberta.ca (Apollo Wong) writes:
> I just got GUSMOD v1.1 a few days ago and run it through my ~300 MODs. I
> noticed that GUSMOD won't play some of the MODs properly. When I try to
> play them, all I get is static garbage from the speaker. Here are part
> of the list that GUSMOD v1.1 won't play.
> 
> x-static.mod
> jm_jarre.mod
> outrun.mod
> alf.mod
> copper1.mod
> crokets.mod

These are 15 channel mods, not the 31 channel mods that GUSMOD supports.  1.2
has a fix for that, but in the meantime, just get a program like MODEDIT and
convert them to 31 (load the mod in and save it back, automatic conversion).

Joshua Jensen
CyberStrike of Renaissance
Date: Wednesday, 27 January 1993 19:33:13 EST
X-Mailer: TMail version 1.14R
From: "Tim Triemstra" <empath@ais.org>
Organization: Empath Software
Subject: Re: DSMI - Sound interface
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Distribution: world

Is there a list of compilers this should work with?  I'd gladly pay almost
any price for a good module/sound player I could use in a game that'll work
with Zortech C++ 3.x in 32bit mode.

This is kinda important as my file and graphics code is already in 32bit
ASM for the Zortech compiler.

Tim.

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From: c142092@lehtori.cc.tut.fi (Chrons Otto)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS vs. LAPC-1 stuff....
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:03:05 +0200
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Computing Centre
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cc.tut.fi

dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion) writes:

>In article <1k6sriINNntn@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> starr-daniel@yale.edu (Daniel Starr) writes:
>>boring Sound Blaster Pro?

>Sound quality is far better. It totally free the CPU of sound processing.
>It has real sounds, not 2 or 4 op FM. It has 16 bit DACs. A good example
>is that Play669 runs fine on a 286 while you would need a 486-66 to achieve
>the same sampling rate with a SoundBlaster (and you still dont get the same
>sound quality. By far.)

Well, depends on playing software... My player system (Digital Sound & Music
Interface = DSMI) can also handle up to 32 channels on a SB/SBPro/PAS+/PAS16
and I must say that the sound quality on PAS 16 (using 16-bit accuracy in
mixing) is the same as with GUS. And playing a four channel mod at 22kHz
takes only about 4% of processing power on my 486/33... Not too bad.
We software developers cannot forget that the installed base for eg. PAS 16
is much greater thatn GUS (for now), so it's important to develop support
for these 'old' systems too. Of course I'll add support for GUS when I get
one of those cards, because DSMI is very easily expandable, but in the mean
time I will enjoy superb quality MODs playing through my PAS 16 :-)

>Francois Dion

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From: berked@aix.rpi.edu (Daniel Leon Berke)
Subject: Adlib & SB Code wanted
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:14:05 GMT

Since I can't seem to find a FAQ around here, pardon me if this question has
been asked before...

I'm looking for some source code (C/Assembly) to do some simple sound effects
on the Adlib and SB cards.  I want to avoid using the copywritten sound driver
code which is out there - I need to program the card directly.  I want to 
be able to support as many cards as I can in the program I'm writing without
having to use tons of code if possible.

If someone can point me at an FTP site where I can find some free code,
I'd appreciate it.

Thanks
Dan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: tj@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (Terry Jones)
Subject: Re: Gravis BBS on Internet soon + other things....
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:11:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.130934.18279@ghost.dsi.unimi.it> romad@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (domenico romano) writes:
>I can't find Gravis BBS with name gravis.wimsey.bc.ca nor gravis.com.

The post indicated this was a mail address not an anonymous ftp
address in case that is what you are trying.

But, I have a question. To what userid can I send to at the
present gravis.wimsey.bc.ca or in the future to gravis.com?

tj
From: s14249nm@UMASSD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Beginner needs help with sounds...
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:43:24 GMT
Reply-To: s14249nm@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.

I am new to sound files. I need someone with knowledge of anything to help me.I don't know what GUS is, MOD, and many other terms. I'm not even sure yet what
type of sound devices my computer has. Could someone e-mail me, in order to
help me. If you have any questions as to what i'm using e-mail me and i'll tryto figure it out. Thanks...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: romad@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (domenico romano)
Subject: Re: Gravis BBS on Internet soon + other things....
Organization: Computer Science Dep. - Milan University
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:09:34 GMT

I can't find Gravis BBS with name gravis.wimsey.bc.ca nor gravis.com.
Can you give me the Internet address ?
Thanks.

	romad@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it
From: d91-fad@tekn.hj.se (DANIEL FALK)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Demo Group ?
Date: 28 Jan 93 10:24:51 GMT
Organization: H|gskolan i J|nk|ping

>> That's what I was thinking of... getting together, talking about
>> demos, rating them, talking about upcoming stuff, there should be a
>> lot to talk about.
>> 
>> A big part of it, of course, is how many members of the demo groups
>> would be able to read/post.
>> -- 
>> To function efficiently, any group of people or employees must have
>> faith in their leader.  -- Capt. Bligh

>Uh, Future Crew, The Phoney Coders and TRSI (did I get it right, Otto?) are
>here too.  

>Joshua Jensen
>CyberStrike of Renaissance

And what about Twilight Zone, Cascada and The Yellow Ones (my group)... 

BTW Joshua!!! When are you going to fix that irritating thing with your
 mod player for the GUS. It would be really nice if one could use short
samples aswell without getting a totally de-tuned noise instead of a 
clear looped sound. Take a look at it will you ?

Regards Daniel Falk AKA Leinad...

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From: apollo@ee.ualberta.ca (Apollo Wong)
Subject: A few MODs won't play by GUSMOD
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:40:39 GMT

I just got GUSMOD v1.1 a few days ago and run it through my ~300 MODs. I
noticed that GUSMOD won't play some of the MODs properly. When I try to
play them, all I get is static garbage from the speaker. Here are part
of the list that GUSMOD v1.1 won't play.

x-static.mod
jm_jarre.mod
outrun.mod
alf.mod
copper1.mod
crokets.mod

Apollo
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From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: New WinJammer uploaded to epas Corrupted??
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:31:45 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

kaustell@viikki.Helsinki.FI (KIM OLAVI KAUSTELL (MATEK)) writes:

>In article <3984@mdavcr.mda.ca> bs@mdavcr.uucp (Bruce Sharpe) writes:

>>I have uploaded the latest version of WinJammer (v2.24) to 

>Is there any possibility this zipped file in epas is corrupted? I downloaded 
>it twice (yes, with the bin option) and tried to unzip it with different 
>versions of unzippers. Other zipped files that I downloaded extracted OK.

Now this is what I was about to ask as I've spent a day trying to get it
unzipped. I downloaded twice from epas and once from Garbo, run pkzipfix, all
to no avail. Same error, corrupted zip file.
I also downloaded vers 2.2 at the same time just in case I had a line fault
but it worked perfectly.

Any clues?

Dave

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From: ayh@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Ann Hopkins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: GUS - Where it could be.
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:18:06 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Organization: Myself

I recently asked where GUS sound boards can be found.  Apparently, mostly
mail order and then you also have to ask.

Thanks for responding.  I really want to hear the product and I guess I am
going to have keep asking my local places to see a demo.

Here are the results...

> It appears alot of people have GUS sound boards, but I have not seen them
> advertised anywhere.
>
> Where in the country is it being sold.

Answer #1:
I'm in the United States, and I got mine mail order through one of the
US companies.  I don't have the phone number on me, but the companies
that do sell it are Telemart, DiskCount Software, Viking Software,
Elek Tek, Bizmart, and more I can't name off the top of my head.
If you are interested, email me back, and I'll find some phone numbers
and addresses that you can try.

Answer #2:
-I got mine at Babages, a local software dealer here in Chicago.  I'm not
sure if Babages is a nationwide chain, but they did have many cards.
There were also going VERY fast!  - Pauly

Answer #3:
If you happen to be in the SF Bay area, check out Fry's electronics. They
carry
them, but for an inflated price of $169! (ouch!). Best place to call is
Telemart who sells it for $132. Unfortunately I don't have their phone# but
you can find it in any issue of PC Magazine.
<Apparently not at every Fry's because my local one does not - AH>

Answer #4:
call telemart...it's selling for $127.
they advertise in computer shopper.

Answer #5:
     Gravis is not doing much advertising, true.  Everything I've heard is
strictly word-of-mouth.  But ask at just about any mail-order outlet and
most likely they will have it, just not plugging it.  I work in one such
outlet--we've got one GUS and I think the price is $139, but I'm not
absolutely sure.

     We've got it here in California.  Other than that, check places such
as CompUSA.


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From: rxa21@po.cwru.edu (Ranjit Annamalai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: A new card from roland?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 10:10:06 GMT
Organization: Case Western reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62471.student.cwru.edu

I was reading somewhere that roland maybe coming out with a new card which 
will have a dac on it does anyone know if this is true or if they are 
working on anything to combat creative labs approaching their territory?

R    a    n    j    i    t      A     n     n     a     m     a    l    a    i
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travelers." ("Extra-Terrestrials are Among Us" p.208
The CIA doesn't trust people on computers. (summary of Gary Stollman)
Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 21:29:41 -0500 
From: Kevin Wengcheong Cheng <kc3b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: GUS and T2029 WORKING

Just in case anyone is wondering...

I managed to get the digitized audio to work... I think...

Using SBOS 1.23 with no switches ( -o3 seems to hang the thing )
and settings
ULTRASOUND IRQ = 5
MIDI IRQ = 7

This was someone's ( I can't remember who ) suggestion that IRQ 7 is
hardwired in T2029. I figure that this might be the same problem with
alot of games with digitized audio problems. Unfortunately, I also found
out that with the IRQ settings this way, The Lost Files of Sherlock
Holmes just crashes on me...

Anyone want to confirm this?
And who's updating the compatibility list?
/<evin
From: dionf@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Francois Dion)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: GUS: Various patch info wanted.
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:40:53 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

In article <93022.170742MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu> Matthew E. Bernold <MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>On a broader note, does anyone know where I can get my hands on a list of
>instruments in the General Midi spec?  I want to know what instrument SHOULD
>be assigned to each patch, and then be able to substitute as I see fit.

I put that on the GUS archive long ago:
On archive.epas.utoronto.ca, directory /pub/pc/ultrasound/info
  5006 Dec  4 01:30 genmidi.arj  Information on general midi

>Also, any other midi mappings such as the Roland midi synths and others
>would also be appreciated.  Making .CFG files for the GUS would be SO much
>easier if I knew what the different instruments were SUPPOSED to sound
>like in the first place... :-)

Check out in /pub/pc/ultrasound/midi-files
  2781 Dec  6 18:41 mt32pat.cfg  Configuration for MT32 patch assignment

Ciao,
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