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From: pepper@shell.portal.com (Angelique N Wahlstedt)
Subject: Re: TTY noise?
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 09:54:19 GMT

In article <1jmkbhINNgk8@shelley.u.washington.edu> chrispy@hardy.u.washington.edu writes:

>Okay, this may be stupid, but I must ask!

Yes, it's a stupid question, but I'll answer, anyway. :-)

>Why does a TTY/TDD make noise everytime you hit the keys?  Now this is a 
>generalization, but most people that use a TTY/TDD are deaf (MOST! I said 
>MOST!)  so why have the noise? 

The noise *is* the carrier signal. Remember, the TDD was developed before
the ASCII modem...also, most TTD's have acoustic couplers (which usually
aren't a smug fit), so the signal have to be loud enugh so the receiving
TDD can seperate it from the background noise.

You don't believe that? Okay, it's really one of many plots by us "deafies"
to drive "hearies" nuts. Better? :-)

By the way, an interesting sidenote: I found another use for my TDD: I use
it to communicate with hearing people because it's less likely to bring on
a writer's cramp as writing notes would. However, because of the noise,
Dad rigged a new switch in my TDD to turn the speaker off.


have to be loud enough to 
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Angeli "Ms. Pepper" Wahlstedt (pepper@shell.portal.com)

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just a butter knife." - Dogbert
From: LCSOUZA@BRLNCC.BITNET ((mr.) Luiz Carlos SOUZA)
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Subject: information on congress on bilingualism for the deaf
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:34:11 GMT
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II Congresso Latino Americano de Bilingualismo (Lingua Oral - Lingua de
Sinais) para Surdos
II Latin American Congress on Bilingualism (Oral Language - Sign Language)
for the Deaf

UFRJ - Federal University of Rio de Janeiro - Brazil

September 12 to 17, 1993.

Registration fees (official rate):
                          until 30 May   until 31 July   after 31 July
Students                   $10               $15              $20
Deaf people                $10               $15              $20
Parents of the deaf        $10               $15              $20
Sign Language Interpreters $10               $15              $20
Teachers                   $20               $25              $30
Others (specify)           $20               $25              $30

Deposits to: Luiz Carlos Souza and/or Carla Valeria de Souza Faria
Banco do Brasil
Number of the bank:001
Agency: Ilha do Fundao
Number of the agency: 3652-8
Number of the account: 314.422-4

Please send a photocopy of the deposit to:
GELES (Grupo de Estudos sobre Linguagem, Educacao e Surdez)
Caixa Postal 16.285 - Largo do Machado - Rio de Janeiro
CEP 22.222-970 - Brazil

If you want a registration form, please contact: Luiz Carlos SOUZA (Mr.)
E-mail: LCSOUZA@BRLNCC.

If you want to present a paper, please contact: LCSOUZA@BRLNCC.

Some of the topics of the congress are:

Bilingualism and Education of the Deaf
Psycolinguistics and Deafness
Neurolinguistics and Deafness
Sociolinguistics and Deafness
Sign Language Interpreter Instruction
The Deaf Culture


The official languages of the congress will be Portuguese, Spanish,
English  and Brazilian Cities Sign Language (LSCB).

President of the organizing committee: Prof. Dr. Lucinda FERREIRA BRITO (Mrs.)

HELP US TO ANNOUNCE THE II LATIN AMERICAN CONGRESS ON BILINGUALISM FOR THE
DEAF.  DON'T FORGET IT WILL TAKE PLACE IN BRAZIL, A WONDERFUL COUNTRY ...
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Subject: Re: Space Rangers, Episode 2, Deaf Character/Deaf Actor?

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Uh, ignore the subject heading...

I habe    ve noticed several "Michiganders" hav   logging on Deaf-L,
and I want to take this opportunity to shamelessly
advertise and promote "The Deaf Michigander" newspaper,
which is a new n monthly (16 page, 11 inches by 17 inches)
publication devoting to news relating to deaf and hard
of hearing community.

If anyone is interesti ed, just give me your name and address
and I will send you a complimentary copy.

The rate is $22 a year.

Some comments on The Deaf Michigander:

"Makes NAD Broadcaster look like a church paper."
-(Anonymous) Director of Public Relations at Gallaudet

"vr  Very impressiuve   ve."
-Tom Willard of The Silent NEws   ews

"We have read the newspawe  per and we are very impressed with
it. The Deaf Michigander provides information in a very
newsy and attractive format."
-Grand President of N.F.S.D. Robert Anderson

And many more has written to us about it. Don't miss
this opportunity to catch a glimpse of a new newspaper.

*Shameless A Self_promotion Mode now Off*

Thank you,
Marvin Miller

(313) 354-5559 TTY
DeafTek: Th  Deaf, .Michigander
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 12:50:00 EST
From:         R_STRAUBHAAR@UVMVAX.UVM.EDU
Subject:      Re: FYI

Hello Mr. Sherman,

I am really writing to let you know that your book called "Deaf Culture in
America" (you edited it) is just wonderful!

I am planning on using it in my ASL 3 class this summer so you should be
getting rich soon! haha

RITA STRAUBHAAR
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 06:07:33 -0500
From:         Seth Gordon <sethg@SILVER.LCS.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      TTY noise?
              24 Jan 1993 10:12:34 GMT <9301241031.AA01728@silver.lcs.mit.edu>

   Cool...can you tell me which TDD makers make [direct-connect] TDD's?

I think all the major manufacturers (they aren't many left) offer
direct-connect models.  Look for their ads in deaf-related magazines,
or go to your local AT&T phone store.

   I bought my last TDD seven years ago,...

My last roommate was a Deaf grad student at BC.  He couldn't afford
to by one, so he borrowed one from his girlfriend ... a "Superphone"
that looked like it was made in the 1960's.

(Note that in our previous messages on this topic, I used the term
"TTY", while Angelique called the same machine "TDD".  Note how in
this message, I have avoided showing a preference for either term, to
carry diplomacy to the point of silliness.  :-)
--
I wish I could speak for my boss, but I'm not a Sign Language Interpreter.
seth gordon ... <sethg@silver.lcs.mit.edu> ... learning ctr 4 deaf children
From: chrispy@hardy.u.washington.edu (Chris Prince)
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Subject: Re: TTY noise?
Date: 28 Jan 1993 03:49:33 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <C1CsCz.Ly3@unix.portal.com> pepper@shell.portal.com (Angelique N Wahlstedt) writes:
>In article <9301230308.AA20546@silver.lcs.mit.edu> Seth Gordon <sethg@SILVER.LCS.MIT.EDU> writes:
>
>>Some TTY's connect directly into the telephone wiring.  In my
>>experience, these TTY's don't make any auditory noise--they don't have
>>to.
>
>Cool...can you tell me which TDD makers make those kinds of TDD's? (Obviusly,
>I'm a bit out of date on the TDD since I bought my last TDD seven years ago,
>and ASCII modems tend to have a higher priority on my list of things to buy.
>:-)

Doesn't your state government give you TTY/TDD's for free if you are deaf
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:57:31 EST
From:         askwersk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Introduction and Question
              26 Jan 93 11:00:12 -0500. <9301261808.AA19193@Athena.MIT.EDU>

I consider a library to be a center of communication in a community.
Not having interpreters there would both conflict with that idea, as
well as be illegal according to ADA. Libraries have to be accessible
to the deaf. If you have a 'story hour' for hearing children, you
should have an interpreter so deaf kids can enjoy it as well.


Adam
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From: pepper@shell.portal.com (Angelique N Wahlstedt)
Subject: Re: TTY noise?
Organization: Portal Communications Company -- 408/973-9111 (voice) 408/973-8091 (data)
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 10:12:34 GMT

In article <9301230308.AA20546@silver.lcs.mit.edu> Seth Gordon <sethg@SILVER.LCS.MIT.EDU> writes:

>Some TTY's connect directly into the telephone wiring.  In my
>experience, these TTY's don't make any auditory noise--they don't have
>to.

Cool...can you tell me which TDD makers make those kinds of TDD's? (Obviusly,
I'm a bit out of date on the TDD since I bought my last TDD seven years ago,
and ASCII modems tend to have a higher priority on my list of things to buy.
:-)

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Angeli "Ms. Pepper" Wahlstedt (pepper@shell.portal.com)

"If nobody else was violent, I could conquer the whole stupid planet with
just a butter knife." - Dogbert
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 11:00:12 EST
From:         Alecia Devantier <34L4PCN@CMUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Introduction and Question

Greetings--

I am new to the list, so I thought I should introduce myself before asking
my question.

My name is Alecia Devantier.  I am currently working as a math instructor
at Central Michigan Univ. to pay my tuition for Library School.  I am a
hearie (with selective hearing.)  I started to learn sign language last
semester, and I LOVED IT!

Now for my question:  As I said, I am in library school - preparing for
either an academic or public library reference career.  I would like to
learn more sign language so that I can work with hearing impaired patrons.
(I would especially like to work as an interpreter at programs such as
childrens' storyhours.)  However, several people are discouraging me
from learing additional sign for this reason, saying it won't be useful.
So, I thought I would go straight to the source(s) and ask.  What do you
think, is there a need (in either public or academic libraries or both)
for a librarian who can work as an interpreter?

(Dream career:  work at Gallaudet!)

I would appreciate any insight, opinions, and/or information you can give me.

Thanks in advance-
Alecia T. Devantier
34L4PCN@CMUVM
From: 245celio@gw.wmich.edu (Gail Celio)
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Subject: Observer turns biographer...
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:00:28 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Well, now that I've mentioned bit.listserv.deaf-l to my Sign Language I
class, I should probably stop "lurking" and actually post a bio... :)

My name is Gail Celio, and I'm a senior at Western Michigan University,
majoring in biology with emphasis on botany, and minoring in math and
chemistry.  I am hearing, but I have some Deaf friends, as well as hearing
friends who enjoy sign language.  Like I said, I am taking S.L. I now,
and when I (hopefully!) go to grad school at Michigan State Univeristy,
I'll continue my sign classes at Lansing Community College (I've heard
they have a good interpreters' program).
	I enjoy science-fiction and fantasy, writing fiction, soccer,
playing--er, working on computers, and collecting comics.  Ten years
from now, I hope to be breeding awesome-looking plants, as well as owning
all the issues of "Excalibur".  ;)

-- 
Gail Celio, Western Michigan University, Kalamazoo, Michigan, USA, Earth.
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Any opinions stated are clearly not those of Western Michigan University--
   Or is that, "Any opinions stated clearly are not those of Western Michigan
      University"?...
From: garvey@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Heather Garvey)
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Subject: Re: Introduction and Question
Date: 26 Jan 1993 22:08:41 GMT
Organization: Smith Undergraduate Lab, CWRU, Cleve. OH, 44106, USA
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Alecia Devantier <34L4PCN@CMUVM.BITNET> writes:
>
>Now for my question:  As I said, I am in library school - preparing for
>either an academic or public library reference career.  I would like to
>learn more sign language so that I can work with hearing impaired patrons.
>(I would especially like to work as an interpreter at programs such as
>childrens' storyhours.)  However, several people are discouraging me
>from learing additional sign for this reason, saying it won't be useful.
>So, I thought I would go straight to the source(s) and ask.  What do you
>think, is there a need (in either public or academic libraries or both)
>for a librarian who can work as an interpreter?

	There's ALWAYS reason to learn another language! :) Here at CWRU,
I'm TA'ing the one and only Sign class. There are 32 people in it (a lot
for a language class) and they had to turn away at least *30* more people!
They want to be able to afford two beginner sections and one advanced, but
you know how budget is. :P If you get the chance, go for it! Languages are
the best way to learn more about people and make friends.
	I considered learning Sign worth it after making ONE elderly couples'
day as a check-out girl who could sign! :) Everyone wants to be able to
communicate to others and if learning ASL meant that more people could get
their library needs taken care of, then OF COURSE it's worth it! :)

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From: rustyd@ravel.udel.edu (Thomas Jose Donohue)
Subject: Attention Gallaudet U!
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:39:12 GMT

Hi!  My name is Tom Donohue, from the University of Delaware.  I'd like to get
in touch with some friends of mine at Gallaudet, who I met this past summer.
I only remember the one guy's name... "Bonz"  If anybody out there knows him
(or any of the other guys I met--sorry, I forgot your names!) please have
them get in touch with me, if at all possible.  I met them at a Scooter Rally
in Virginia in August, and I think some of the guys have either Vespa or 
Lambretta scooters.
I know it's an odd sounding request... I'm just making a trip to Gallaudet 
on friday the 29th, a class trip for my ASL class I'm taking here.  I'd really
like to get together with them when I'm there on friday!  And, to give a little 
introduction of myself, I'm a senior foreign language major (german, 
french and russian) and I'm a hearie, just starting ASL, and hoping to learn
it well enough to make it my fifth language!   
Thanks in advance if anyone can have Bonz or one of the other guys get in 
touch with me over e-mail, or snail mail!
                                       Later!
				              Tom =)
Tom "RustyD" Donohue     15 Anglin Dr. 
rustyd@ravel.udel.edu    Newark, DE 19713
From: chrispy@hardy.u.washington.edu (Chris Prince)
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Subject: Re:      Re: captioning
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:42:18 GMT
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In article <9301201833.AA33140@acs.bu.edu> Dawn Skwersky <skwersky@ACS.BU.EDU> writes:
>I wuld like a copy of that...
>
>Dawn Skwersky
>skwersky@acs.bu.edu


Umm, Yeah!  ME TOO!  Please!:)

Chris:)
chrispy@hardy.u.washington.edu
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:24:11 EST
From:         "Esther A. Paris" <esther@DEMAND.ED.RAY.COM>
Subject:      kids books recommendations requested

Hi there!  I think that a request for sign language children's books
went out before... but I'd like a list and I don't have one.  So,
if anyone collected such a list, please forward to me or to the list.

I don't know exactly what I'm looking for... ASL-in-pictures or
Signed English kids' books... I think for this purpose Signed English
is best.  I know Gallaudet U Press has a whole slew of Signed English
kids books, but I'd like to know if anyone has used them, and if so,
which are kids' favorites.

The reason I'm asking is that dear friend's oldest son is dysphasic (?)
for some unknown reason.  They haven't got a clear diagnosis nor any
really good theories.  But he can't talk.  They've started using sign
language with him and he's a signing maniac, now!  It's wonderful to
see this beautiful child finally figuring out that communication is for
him, too... not just something strange that adults do and adults respond
to and adults seem to think he should respond to.  He seems to hear
perfectly.  He's picking up signs left and right, and when he meets
a person who really signs (his parents are rank beginners) he is
mesmerized and soaks it all in.  He's using signs for all kinds of
things he wants to say.  Right now he's just at the stage of using
concrete nouns for common things, but he understands questions and
instructions.  He signs things first and as he figures out how to
say a word that his parents understand, he'll start saying the word
and drop the sign.  An example of such a I-once-signed-this-but-now-
I-can-sorta-say-it-so-I-don't-sign-it-now word is 'more'.

Anyway, I'd like to get him some good kids' books with signs in it
to expand his (and his parents') sign vocabulary.  Can you recommend
some to me?  He's about three... and I'm not a parent... so I don't
know what kinds of things three-year-olds respond to.

He has two Sesame Street (with Linda Bove) sign books.  But that's
it...

Any and all suggestions are welcomed.  If you choose to send by email,
I'll maintain a list and post it.

Esther Paris... forgive me if this is only tangentially related to
deaf-list's normal discussion fare... Raytheon EDL in Marlborough, MA
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:29:56 PST
From:         Ronald Mitchell <mitch@PLATO.DS.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: Space Rangers, Episode 2, Deaf Character/Deaf Actor?

The other day I remarked that the Seago brothers were alumni of
NTID.  Of course I meant NTD, the National Theater of the Deaf.

"What?" you say, "Nobody ever reads your posts anyway!"  Ah well,
for the record then I stand corrected by myself.


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Subject: Re: Space Rangers, Episode 2, Deaf Character/Deaf Actor?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 00:13:36 GMT
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>
>I didn't see that show, but that kinda reminds me of an episode of "Star Trek:
>Next Generation" featuring a deaf meditator, which was played by Howard
>Seago. Does anyone know anything about him? A book which covers the series
>mentioned that he is Deaf, but didn't give much information about him.

The actor who played the deaf mediator really is Deaf.  I have some
more information about him at home (I'm at work right now) that I'm
willing to send if you're interested.  (Being a real ST:TNG fan and
also being very interested in Signed Language, I know these things).
Just let me know...



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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:34:17 EST
From:         askwersk@ATHENA.MIT.EDU
Subject:      Re: TDD noise?
              28 Jan 93 14:56:00 -0500. <9301282057.AA03608@Athena.MIT.EDU>

Annatte,

No, the money comes from the state. The phone company is just organizing the
give-aways. I picked this piece of info up when I picked up my OWN free
tty and flashers.

Adam
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:33:36 -0600
From:         /PN=JUDY.TINGLEY/O=DEAFTEK/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@SPRINT.COM
Subject:      RE: Apologies & help for a friend

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Regarding the fellow from South Africa who will be visiting the USA and would
like to visit Gallaudet, have him contact Dr. Eli Saavanick, Director,
International Center on Deafness, Gallaudet University, Washington, D.c. 20002.
His fax number is +1 202  651 5614.  Stephen can describe the sort of people
he'd like to meet and programs he'd like too see while there.  There is at
least one alumna of Gallaudet from South Africa living and working in the
Washington, D.C. area...that might also be an interesting contact.  His name
is David Black.  His wife is also from S.A.  Perhaps you know them.  David
and Mary's address and TTY number are listed in the TDI Directory as follows:
David and Mary Black, 10025 Club Drive, Bethesda Maryland 20817, +1 301
564 5778.  They will know of any more recent S.A. students at Gallaudet, I
am sure.  Hope this helps!
Judy Tingley
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:15:34 EST
From:         Paul Daniels <LND@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Deaf Float

> Hi, I wonder if anyone knew what happened to the float carrying a deaf
> choir during the Inauguration parade. I found out at a meeting that
> there was going to be one. So I tried to find it in the parade, and
> my husband who is hearing heard that one float broke down. So we are
> assuming that the float that broke down was the one carrying the deaf
> choir.
> By the way, since I am posting this message, I better introduce myself.
> I am deaf and resides in Northern Virginia. I am a native of North Carolina
> and graduated from the North Carolina School for the Deaf in Morganton.
> I graduated from Gallaudet in 1975. I work for the government as a computer
> scientist.
>
> In advance, thanks to anyone that replies to my question about the deaf
> float.
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>    /       /____/  /____/        Internet: gaither@oasys.dt.navy.mil
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Hi Pat, I happened to see that group, whose float broke down due to
brake defect, later on news when they were singing both in voice and
signing as guests at the White House. They are mostly mentally retarted
from Ohio, some of them learned sign language. Maybe few of them are deaf
so that others learn to sign in order to communicate with them.

Did u create ur own new LOGO as shown in ur ending posting? If so, do
u have to type ur logo everytime u post or have it stored in ur hard
drive (to be retrieved and paste it to ur posting)?
Take care, Paul Daniels (LND@NIHCU.BITNET)
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