From: andres@minerva.ece.drexel.edu (Andres Lebaudy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Reggie White ?
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:47:04 GMT
Organization: Drexel University, Philadelphia PA


[ Rajeev suggests that the eagles should trade Cunningham to Seattle
  for C. Kennedy and their #1 pick ]

>>
>>Are you out of your mind or just having delusions?  What makes you
>
>I am dreaming if that makes you happy!!. It is very clear that the eagles
>are not going to trade randall. They need plug other holes before the put
>the blame on the QB.
>

The issue wasn't wether or not randall should be traded.  My point, which
you've conveniently failed to include, was that Seattle would be crazy to
make the trade you suggested.  While were on the "should randall be traded
issue", IMHO this is the best time for the eagles to do so.  IMHO, randall's
value will continue to decrease and they would get the most for him now.
It has nothing to do with putting blame on the QB, but with "plugging
the other holes" as you say.

>>an overated, playoff-choking, can't-pass-over-the-middle, 
>
>overrated: He is the 5th best rated QB in the league. I will partially agree
>just to make you happy. Now this rating is not being overrated or something,
>but it is by numbers. Get the facts straight!!
>

While numbers don't necessarily tell the whole story, this statistic
serves my point just as well.  The Philadelphia media crowned him as
one of the top 2 or 3 QB's in the league.  Judging by passer ratings,
he's overrated.

>playoff-choking: yeah right. If you had told me this before the saints
>game I would have believed you, not because I think that he is playoff 
>choking but because he hasn't won a playoff game. In all past 3 playoff
>losses, the offense of the eagles was completely revolving around
>randall. He does the running, passing. That was buddy's 'randall make
>two or three big plays and defense win games for me' type of offense.
>You are not going to get far with that kind of philosophy. 
>

His lone playoff win only proves one thing:  B. Hebert is a bigger choker.
 
>cant-pass-over-the-middle: Do you remember a tight-end named keith jackson
>in the offensive game plan of the eagles in the last few years. Do you know
>where he caught most of his passes. It is obvious that you are not well-versed
>with the facts and aare just trying to take shots at randall. Give him a 
>break will you!!!

I'm not talking about the 5-15 yard passes to your TE.  I'm referring to
the 20-25 yard variety to your WRs.

>And this year, if you know, the eagles didn't have a pass-catching tight-end/
>receivers who ran up the middle. If you remember the denver game, calvin 
>williams did run a slant up the middle and let me remind you where it ended up.
>the END ZONE!!. If the offensive game plan is not tailored around throwing
>in the middle, and the receivers are running straight down the field routes
>is the QB to be blamed for that? I will leave this to your judgement.
>

I admit I didn't see the C. Williams TD.  How long was the *actual* pass?
Anyway, what does one pass in 18 games prove?  Why do you think the
offensive game plan is not tailored around throwing in the middle?
Do you think Barnett and Williams are scared?  I don't think so.  While
I don't have great respect for Kotite, there's a reason why the team
doesn't throw over the middle.  Kotite doesn't have confidence in Randall
to do so.  It's alot harder to throw interceptions on sideline patterns.


>>cry-when-I-get-benched, fumble-every-other-carry, over-sensitive,
>
>cry-when-I-get-benched: He did take it in his stride. If you are a starting
>QB for a team for quite some time, and you get benched, I think randall did
>an excellent job in handling the situation, least of all cry.
>

Perhaps he didn't publicly cry, but he did everything short of it.  Did you 
hear him say that if he ever got benched again he would leave Philadelphia?
I hardly think this is the sign of a guy who "did an excellent job
handling the situation".

>fumble-every-other-carry: With an offensive line that is very inexperienced
>and has given up 64 sacks (when i last saw the stats) , fumbles always happen.
>When you have the athletic talent of randall, fumbles are bound to happen.

So the more athletic talent a player has the more he is prone to fumbling?

>well, I agree that he does hold the ball like a loaf of bread but that is 
>the price you have to pay for his running ability on the field. Look at 

So because he has running ability it's ok for him to "hold the ball
like a loaf of bread"?  You're just strengthening my position here.

>what he did with his rushing in 1990. He is a very different, "not the stand
>in the pocket styla" running QB. You just have to use him the his skills.
>Towards the later half of the season, they tried to use his skills with 
>those boot legs and stuff.
>
>over-sensitive: His off-the-field actions dont call for discussion in 
>this newsgroup. As long as he delivers as the randall I know, that is fine
>with me. 
>

The problem is that his off-the-field actions affect his play.  Of course,
I'm referring to football related off-the-field actions.

>>little-confidence-yet-somehow-cocky QB with more than half of his
>
>yeah right. When you get benched it does increase your confidence. That is
>definitely a new philosophy!!. Look at how he performed in the first 4 games
>and towards the end of the season. Now that is some confidence.
>

I made no statement about wether or not he has reason to lack confidence.
I'm just puzzled as to how a person can be as cocky as he is yet have
little confidence.  In regards to your last statement, its not very
difficult to be confident when you're playing well, the difficult thing
is maintaining the confidence when your down.

>>pro football days behind him?
>
>I would think that he has another 5 years of football left in him.

I said *more than half* of his pro football days behind him.
Why did you conveniently omit that part?

>>
>>Andres
>>
>>P.S.  Are you in any way related to the infamous Mr. Caps-Lock? :-) :-)
>
>Well, if the above argument doesn't convince you that I am not the CAPS-LOCK
>guy then I dont know what will.
>

I was just kidding dude.  I guess that was really low of me to compare you
to that guy.  My apologies.

>>	EAGLES WILL GO 16-0 AND WIN THE SUPERBOWL!!! 
>
>Now that sure looks like how the guy used to send his posting. Hmmm....
>
>
>-Rajeev
>A Scrambling Eagle Fan
>GO EAGLES in 1993

Here's a few more for your pleasure:

... bounce-passing, it's-only-Green-Bay, Whitney-Houston-less,
back-stabbing, hated-by-own-offensive-line,
rather-groom-my-hair-than-study-the-playbook ...

Enjoy.  By the way, I think he's a good QB. I just don't like the guy.
Now explain this to me:  If you think so highly of the guy why did
you suggest that the eagles trade him?

Andres