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From: rcmarab@athena.mit.edu (He Whose Name Is Not Spoken)
Subject: Interracial Relationships
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:05:10 GMT

I would be interested in seeing people's experiences with interracial
relationships, especially with how it affected interactions with parents,
friends, etc.  

Email if posting makes you nervous.


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Newsgroups: soc.couples
From: wyk@sparc1.ee.ncku.edu.tw (Jerry Y.G. Wu)
Subject: I need a friend...
Organization: National Cheng Kung University, Tainan, Taiwan
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:01:42 GMT


I need a female young friend...
can i make friend with you ?
From: na4@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: soc.couples
Subject: Re: Significant other(s)
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:31:47 EST
Distribution: soc
Organization: Cornell University

Just a word (okay, a bunch) from one who was in the woman's position,...	

I'm in a mono relationship and had the opportunity to explore my feelings to
see for myself how I felt.  Having that opportunity showed me that, for now
at least, I prefer mono relationships.  I don't know that it will always be 
the case, but I was confused and appreciated the trust of my SO to let me see
for myself what he apparently already knew.

Anyway, the point is, if you can, allow her to explore her feelings.  She might
not ever sleep with him, but she might resent not being able to explore her
feelings with you in open communication. 

You are very lucky, by the way, that she shares her feelings with you like
this.  I'd say as a couple you have a much greater chance than most simply
because you dare to share those scary, confusing feelings together.  

KEEP TALKING!!!

NKA
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Newsgroups: soc.couples,ba.market.misc,su.market,misc.forsale
From: rfelix@netcom.com (Robbie Felix)
Subject: Men's gold wedding band for sale
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:47:08 GMT

I have a size 8 1/2 men's gold wedding band, never used. It is still
in the box and I have the receipt that shows I paid 350 for it last
February at Zales.

It is a nice band, has a small decorative edging on it and is very
handsome.

I wish to sell it for the best offer. Please send mail with your offer
or leave a message at 415-364-6140. I am in Redwood City.

Thanks,

robbie
Xref: sparky soc.couples:4549 soc.singles:35450
From: pooh@Apple.COM (Pooh)
Newsgroups: soc.couples,soc.singles
Subject: Re: How Strong Should a Man Be? and RESPECT!
Date: 6 Jan 93 11:41:15 GMT
Followup-To: soc.couples
Organization: Internet Refugee Camp

In the referenced article, gerg@netcom.com (Greg Andrews) writes:
>K. Roper <ROPERK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>>
>>  Strong enough to admit that yes, women sweat, fart and belch.
>>
>
>*I* have no problem admitting that.  It's my *SO* who steadfastly
>rejects the idea she could ever do such things...

Not only does my SO admit it, but he critiques each emission
as being too wimpy.  I'm trying to work on it. ;-)

Pooh
	pooh@apple.com
From: jabolliger@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: soc.couples
Subject: Re: Significant other(s) - polygamy?
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:13:42 GMT

In article <1it9s0INN1rp@alshain.usc.edu>, lkimes@alshain.usc.edu (Lance 'Moof' Kimes) writes:
> In article <1993Jan11.142722.1002@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu>, jabolliger@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu writes:
> 
> 	stuff deleted....
> 
> |> > Mmmmm... I'm the last person you'd call a moralist. But from a wider, societal
> |> > point of view, it SEEMS that the most stable, "healthiest" relationship type
> |> > is the single partner type. "Co-dependent" is a new wave psychobabble term
> |> > less than one decade old. Monogamy goes back millennia. 
> |> > > 			   -----------------------------
> |> >>-lile
> |> > 
> |> > - Greg
> |> 	How many thousand years with monogamy?  Actually  I get the  
> |> impression politically enforced monogamy seems fairly recent 
> |> compared to polygamy.
> |>  Jean Ann
> 
> Oh pleeaasseee, give me a break. Monogamy goes back .....
> 
> I'm not saying that any of the mono/poly relationships are are good or bad.
> But please don't tell me that monogamy is natural or hasn't been successful for
> thouseands of years.
> 
> Lance Kimes

Not to worry, you certainly won't have me telling you monogamy is natural.
As to its success that probably depends on the definition being used for
monogamy.
			Jean Ann
Newsgroups: soc.couples
From: rcmarab@athena.mit.edu (He Whose Name Is Not Spoken)
Subject: Have You Seen Her?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:58:29 GMT

Dude, you need to be a little more specific.  You could start by giving an idea
of her general location, etc.  For your own info, there is no one by that name at
MIT.  Good luck in your search.

I remind you that stalking is a felony in some states.

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Newsgroups: soc.couples
From: CMIS27@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Roda Farrell)
Subject: Re: Interracial Relationships
Organization: Motorola
Date: 5 Jan 1993 14:12:25 CST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: rcmarab@athena.mit.edu (He Whose Name Is Not Spoken)

I would be interested in seeing people's experiences with interracial
relationships, especially with how it affected interactions with parents,
friends, etc.

Email if posting makes you nervous.


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I am Oriental, my husband is Caucasian.  We dated for three years (we
started in high school), were engaged for three years, and have been
married for three years.  I think at first both sets of parents thought
that it was just curiosity on our parts.  Family gatherings were often
weird because my relatives would talk about him as if he weren't there
until they realized that he could understand what they were saying.

His relatives would sometimes make insulting remarks about minorities
in general, but they never considered me a minority.  Go figure.

We had a lot of the same friends, so that was never a problem.

If any relatives still had doubts about our relationship, they have
melted away after seeing our daughter.  Her looks favor me, but there
is a lot of her father in her smiling face.  I think she represents
the best in both of our cultures.
Newsgroups: soc.couples
From: das@emmapeel.ca.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Remarrying Ex
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA
Distribution: soc.couples
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:28:13 GMT

I used to work with a woman who remarried her ex.  Her situation was a bit
different, however.  They'd gotten married at 16 after she got pregnant.
They got divorced around 18, spent a few years apart, then got back together
and decided to remarry.  I met her when she was around 24, the son was 8,
and the whole family seemed to be doing just fine.
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  "I've never fallen in love, but I've stepped in it a few times."
				     - from _Peter's Friends_
Newsgroups: soc.couples
From: sthor@ctp.com (Sarah Thornburg)
Subject: Re: Showers with SOs
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:47:05 GMT

In article <726089328.AA00000@blkcat.UUCP> Lola.Lee@p872.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Lola Lee) writes:
>  AA> From: andreas@appel012.hydromech.uni-hannover.de (Andreas A. W.
>  AA> Dunker) Newsgroups: soc.couples Organization: University of Hannover,
>  AA> FRG
>  AA> 
>  AA> ROPERK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (K. Roper) writes: :  Not us.  He sets the
>  AA> water entirely TOO COLD for my liking :> : :  Kim
>  AA> 
>  AA> My wife has the same problem, but sometimes we find a good temperature
>  AA> (preferebly after a walk on a cold winter day).
>  AA> 
>  AA> By the way: what is SO?
>  AA> 
>  AA> --
>  AA> ______________________________________________________________________
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>
>SO stands for "Significant Other", your mate, be it a wife, husband or a lover.
>
>Lola
>
> 

SO also has the added advantage of being non-gender specific, and therefore
can refer to a spouse, lover, or boyfriend/girlfriend of either sex.

Sarah

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Newsgroups: soc.couples
From: an3936@anon.penet.fi (Silly Question)
Subject: Re: Showers with SOs
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.couples
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:26:09 GMT

Some people wrote:
>>>One of our plans for our "dream house" is a large bath with two shower heads,
>>>so we can enjoy the "growing closer" without the jockeying for position
>>>that occurs in our too-tiny single-shower-head bath.
>>
>>And I thought I was the only one who wanted a shower like that.  Anybody else
>>out there in net.land that thinks showers should be made with two heads?  
>>Maybe we can convince the plumbing industry to start making them standerd...

But, this should be easy. All you have to do is connect one shower head to 
the hot top, and one to the cold tap.

Anonymously (I hope).
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From: sitar@oosik.sprl.umich.edu (Robert J. Sitar)
Subject: Re: forgivenss
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 04:29:13 GMT

I realize this is a bit late, but it bears saying anyway.  My girlfriend  
and I just broke up after 6 years of dating.  3 years ago, I cheated on  
her.  Unlike ajp's situation, sex was involved, and a child was born.   
That one little slip up has caused me more grief than you can imagine.  At  
the time, my girlfriend took me back, and said that she forgave me.  For  
the last three years (two of which were long distance) it seemed that  
things were going well, that we were working though it.  Three months ago,  
she said that she couldn't handle the responsibilites associated with my  
daughter ( I don't have custody, but pay child support and make regular  
visits).  Two months after that, she said that no matter how hard she  
tried, she just couldn't trust me.  I, in the mean time, had done nothing  
knowingly which would cause her to thing that I was cheating on her again.   
I didn't want to go through that again.  Still, she found someone else  
closer to her, and broke it off.

The moral(s) of the story

	(a) cheating isn't worth it.  Too much damage can be done to 
		too many people.
	(b) be honest with yourself and your SO.  If you're having 
		problems.  TALK ABOUT IT!!!  

to ajp, and anyone else in these same circumstances, I hope that things  
work out for the best.

   
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:32:24 GMT
Subject: Re: Men buying fhp's (was Re: How Strong ......)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: soc.couples

Re: Buying FHPs......


I dunno about you all but I'd rather be buying them in the store than
retrieving them with a plumber's snake.

Doesn't happen too often but it seems to go with the Duties and Responsibilities
of The Chief  Plumber For The Household............

:-)
Just another of life's little adventures.

Ron
From: ncostello@vms.eurokom.ie
Newsgroups: soc.couples
Subject: Re: Showers with SOs
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:36:23 GMT
Organization: EuroKom Conferencing Service

The only trouble with "SO" is that it unconsciously raises an association
with "SOB" (which is gender-specific!).
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:52:35 EST
From: Psycho!! <HOLTONS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.couples
Subject: Re: Showers with SOs

>Lola Lee:
>> SO stands for "Significant Other", your mate, be it a wife, husband
>> or a lover.

   What about Significant Object?  That way we can allow it to be animal,
vegtable or mineral... or mechanical contraption... This is, afterall, the
erra of political correctness and complete freedom.  Why impose your
corporal preferences on anyone?


Steve

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Opinions?  We dont need no steenking opinions...

Steve Holton Queen's University
HOLTONS@QUCDN.QUEENSU.CA        Canada, eh?
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Newsgroups: soc.couples,alt.sex.wizards
From: "amy lynn young-leith" <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Significant other(s) - polygamy?
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:41:16 -0500

In article <1993Jan7.185924.10436@samba.oit.unc.edu> Gerry.Mulvenna@launchpad.unc.edu (Gerry Mulvenna) writes:
>I am currently involved in a minor (slightly philosophical) crisis
>with my girlfriend.  She believes that we should challenge the 
>conventions of monogamous sexual relationships and question
>the accompanying emotions such as jealousy and feeling threathened.
[...]
>However I am no nearer accepting the principle of "looser"
>relationships, and am gradually succumbing to feelings of
>hurt and jealousy.  My girlfriend obviously understands this,
>but reassures me that her love for me is as strong as ever
>and is under no threat from the a sexual relationship with her
>friend.
>I would be interested to hear any other experiences or opinions
>on this subject.

It's going to, in the end, come down to whether you can accept this or
not.  She could possibly say that ok, she'll accept monogamy for you,
but don't count on it.  This would be about the same as people who
have drastic religious differences and those differences are based in
the fact that one just simply doesn't accept the other. 

Look at the type of the relationship you want.  Look at why you are
with her.  Look at what you need from a relationship. 

I married my husband because in my heart I love him more than I ever
thought I could love a person.  To me, love is not a finite quality
that we have, and if we give it out, it's gone, used up, etc.  I love
many people.  Relationships are hard for me to rank in relation to one
another because it's like apples and oranges.  "Love" is not a single
thing, it's a way of easily expressing a multitude of emotions and
desires.  My husband is the most important relationship I will ever
have.  If I ever found myself straying from that thought, then I would
have to look at the relationship to seriously evaluate what is wrong. 

I have friends I care about very much, and have a lot of fun with.  If
that friend agrees, what's wrong with showing affection and having fun
with person by having sex?  Sex to me does not equal "until death do
us part" love; nor does love imply the need to own a person, to be the
ONLY person in their life.  

My husband and I do not have an "open" relationship.  We have an
honest and realistic relationship.  

amy
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From: sosc1048@wc14.writer.yorku.ca (Joel Cohen)
Subject: cant post
Organization: York University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:26:42 GMT


yummy tummy
Xref: sparky soc.history:10651 alt.war.civil.usa:1815
From: stone@gershwin.cs.unc.edu (Donald Stone)
Newsgroups: soc.history,alt.war.civil.usa
Subject: Re: Use of Pre-Civil War Railroads in Warfare
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:46:32
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
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In-reply-to: visser@convex.com's message of Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:30:06 GMT


In article <visser.726780606@convex.convex.com> visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:

   From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)

	   There is no reason that Telegraph lines have to built at the
   same time as railroads though.  Obviously the English could not have
   had direct telegraph contact from the Crimea.  Its possible that there
   was a telegraph link to somewhere at Constantinople (or Istambul if you
   perfer).
	   But at the same time, how "quickly" is quickly with regard to
   news reaching England.  News might have been transported back to france
   or Italy by ship and then telegraphed back to England.

When was undersea cabling technology invented?  I've always been curious about
the development of telegraph technology, particularly about how/when/etc it
was extended across the Atlantic.

Part of my interest stems from the beginning of Tuchman's "The Zimmerman
Telegram" where she describes the first naval events of the First World War
... the cutting of several Trans-Atlantic cables.

Anybody know of any good books on the subject?

--
Donald Stone (stone@cs.unc.edu)
From: claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird)
Subject: Re: Use of Pre-Civil War Railroads in Warfare
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:10:39 GMT

In article <1isf22INN84@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> velde2@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Francois Velde) writes:
>
>In article <1993Jan11.131944.13168@panix.com> spencer@panix.com (David Spencer) writes:
>>
>>The Paris Revolution of 1834, the Revolution of 1848 and the periodic
>           ^^^^^^^^^^
>Surely Revolution is a strong word: riot would be more accurate.
>I wonder what railroad lines existed in 1834.
>
>>Paris insurrections of the 19th century were put down with troops
>>brought by rail from the countryside to the cities. This had an
>>important effect on European thinking about the military use of
>>railroads.
			.
			.
			.
'Interesting that these European examples are
all of strategic troop movements; anyone have
examples of railroad use within a tactical
theater?
-- 

Cameron Laird
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Newsgroups: soc.history
From: m1b@rayssd.ssd.ray.com (Barone)
Subject: Greek Invasion (was Re: _Target Hitler_ )
Organization: Raytheon Submarine Signal Division
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:59:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.174319.3559@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
writes:
>>Historically the Greeks, Yugoslavs, etc. went down pretty easily, mostly
>>because the Greek army was misplaced and the Yugoslav one was still in a
>>post-coup malaise. They would have been a real nuisance to contain. I think
>>the net delay was about six weeks.
> 
> Again, the Italians weren't able to do much, even against such misplaced
> troops.

	There is a big difference between the Italian invasion of Greece
and the German one.  The Italians invaded from Albania, in very mountanous
terrain.  The front of this invasion was very contained and the Italians
could not take advantage of any Greek troops that where "misplaced".
Further, the Italians were poorly equipped (they didn't even have boots!)
as well as poorly led.  The Germans invaded Greece from Bulgaria and
Yugoslavia, a much wider front.

	One advantage the delay of Barbarossa gave the Germans was that
the Soviet Union was a big exporter of basic raw material to Germany's
war machine.  This gave the Germans an extra month or so of more material
from the SU.

> Also,
> Hitler might have made it within bomber range of the Ural factories Stalin
> had built earlier, making the war/winter that much easier for the Wehrmacht.

	The capture of Moscow probably would not have affected the
outcome of the war, IMO.  If the Ural factories were in bombing
range, they would have been moved again.  I think the biggest factor
was the shift of significant forces from the Soviet Far East to
Zhukov's western front.  Stalin only did this after learning that
the main Japanese efforts would be concentrated in the south.
-- 
Joe Barone
m1b@rayssd.ssd.ray.com
Oh yeah?  Well, I can't take anything you say seriously with that stupid accent.
You sound like you should be ``plotting big trouble for moose and squirrel.''
From: sjbuckle@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.history
Subject: Quiz question
Date: 4 Jan 93 13:45:35 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Can anybody out there provide me with the answer to the following question,
which has appeared in a newspaper quiz ?

   Who established Sierra Leone as a colony ?

I think the actual name of a person is required, rather than the colonising
country, but I don't know this for sure. If you know please E-mail the answer to
sjbuckle@minster.york.ac.uk, thanks a lot.
Newsgroups: soc.history,alt.war.civil.usa
From: cjt1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Charles Ten Brink)
Subject: Re: Use of Pre-Civil War Railroads in Warfare
Reply-To: cjt1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:48:11 GMT

Samuel F. B. Morse laid underwater cable in the Hudson River very early on,
I think about 1842.  The first partially successful Trans-Atlantic cable
was laid during the Buchanan administration and lasted about a month, which
was long enough for Buchanan to exchange pleasantries with Queen Victoria,
and this is the event usually commemorated as the first successful cable,
even though it only lasted about a month.

The first "permanent" cables were laid in 1866.
--Chuck


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