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From: rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ross Allan Roberts)
Subject: Re: Advice on 128Mb magneto-optical (and the 256Mb GZ format)?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:43:00 GMT

>>I'm considering a 3.5", 128Mb magneto-optical drive for personal use, and
>>would love any suggestions...
>
>The MacWorld (November '92?) that arrived in the mail this week had a review
>covering about 30 of these.  Get a copy.

What about the 3.5" MO drives that also do the 256Mb GZ format disks
(discs?). Are those mentioned in the report? The MacUser review of storage
media back in... April?... mentioned these _very_ briefly, but the
mechanism of the MOST GZ drive unit was close to the cost of the Sony 128
mechanism...

MacWorld seems to be on a delay of about 1.5 weeks from the personal
delivery to the counter, and I really don't want to wait (to buy one...)

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From: ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SE to SE/30: Worth It?
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:11:52 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <1992Sep28.150237.14307@athena.mit.edu> markwang@athena.mit.edu (Mark Y Wang) writes:
>
>The current cost for a used SE/30+video card+monitor is a couple hundred
>less than a new IIsi+FPU+monitor (same monitors/keyboards with equal
>ram/hdisk configurations),

Just a general observation.  In making comparisons like this I don't think
you can ignore the fact that the new computer is covered by a 1 year
warranty.  So if you really want to be on equal footing you need to add
the cost of a year's AppleCare to the price of the used machine.  Also
consider that the new machine (theoretically) will last longer since it
has not been subjected to wear and tear....

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From: tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Lets Talk Performas!
Date: 26 Sep 92 06:29:18 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Concerning the Mac II series tags: Taggart writes:

Well, you have some interesting points here. But what this whole
thing is based on is those macs using the same case, but with different
names. First there was the IIcx and the IIci. The IIci was above the
IIcx in performance. Now there is the IIvx and the IIvi, but suddenly
the IIvx is above the IIvi in performance. Until Apple comes out and
publicly tells us what the hell the letters stand for, it will remain
that they have reversed their use with these new models.

______________________________

I think that the above theory about naming does not stick.  The answer is simpleLook at previous Mac Models:
The IIcx
The IIsi
Now we have the IIvi
Well, in the past there was the Honda Civic cx and the Civic si, now Honda has
added a new civic, coincidentally, the vi.  It seems to me that Apple is just
added the Civic vi to its line.  It seems to me that 
Apple engineers tend to name every other Mac II after a Civic Model, or do the engineers at Honda name the civics after Mac IIs?                                Chris in Montreal
_______________________________
all the world needs is another dumb theory
From: jeff_d@npri6.npri.com (Jeff Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: SE fan replacement
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:19:34 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

cent@u.washington.edu (bob cent) writes:

>Greetings,

>I have an SE with a noisey fan.  I seem to recall that once there was a
>discussion on c.s.m.h about which were good substitute fans.

If you have an early SE that has one of the "paddlewheel" (aka "squirrel
cage") fans, I believe that the fan replacement is covered by an apple  
service notice.  Take your mac in to your local dealer and complain about
the noise and mention that there was a replacement program for SE's with 
noisy fans.  I bought an SE earlier this year (used) and took it in; They
replaced the fan (actually, the whole board it was attached to) with a
much quieter boxer fan.  So I think the replacement program is still in
effect; the fan replacement didn't cost me anything.

Jeff
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From: edcrwfrd@unlv.edu (Edward Crawford)
Subject: Re: Apple and NeXT move off of 680x0 base (was Re: 68050)
Organization: UNLV
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 02:03:29 GMT


>>>

the PowerPC thing is a joke... the first chips won't be out 'till
1994,
and I'd bet on 1995 AT LEAST before anything comes about as a result
of
it,
<<<

The powerpc chip is FINISHED, and next is thinking of using that
instead of Moto's other risc chip FYI.
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Connecting PowerBook to ext La Cie PocketDrive?
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:52:37 GMT
Organization: The Polyhedron Group

In article <norton.718083758@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU>, norton@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU
(Norton Chia) writes:
> 
> I understand La Cie's PocketDrive ends at a 25 pin male connector. While this
> is fine with connecting to the back of a Mac, how would I be able to connect
> to a PowerBook's SCSI port?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Norton Chia
> 
> 

Call LaCie for a custom cable. I'm sure they have one.

For a "stock hardware" solution, you would have to use a combination of
several cables that would cost far more than it is
worth.
From: daver@sunspot.ssl.berkeley.edu (David Ray)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Performas, LCII's and questions!
Date: 6 Oct 1992 20:36:58 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunspot.ssl.berkeley.edu

I cancelled my recent posting about Performas, LCII's since I got
a little carried away with emotions about the computer biz in general.
I also apparently didn't know what I was talking about regarding the
16 bit data bus versus 32 bit addressing. Thanks to those who promptly
corrected me.

One thing I said that everybody agreed with is that apple should have a
better upgrade policy for loyal customers. Apparently there is no need
to worry about upgrading with the Performas -- they are the exact same thing
as the LCII and Classic II.

-dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ross Allan Roberts)
Subject: Re: What happens to the PB 145 when the 160 comes out?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:48:28 GMT

>The PB145 required little to no development $$$.  My bet it is that it
>will go the way of the 100 on October 19.
>matt

I think Apple is getting bizarre on this new concept of intro-ing a new
machine/platform only to discontinue it within 2 months to provide
something 'new and improved.' In the automotive business, I equate this to
the new model year exactly as the previous year, with redsigned taillights
or some such silly nonsense. Is one of Apple's goals to have introduced
the most lines of any computer, with the shortest life-spans?

Some of the upgrades make sense... notably the Classic II and LCII...
(IMHO the LC in its original configuration should never have happened, but
I digress). This recent debacle with the Powerbooks, however, has me
wondering if: 1.) There is little/no communication within Apple's R&D
dept., or 2.)I dunno... just something that doesn't make sense. Call me
ignorant, but it just seems a little wasteful of Apple's resources to even
modify a machine with a marketing life around 2-3 months.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: peterbak@microsoft.com (Peter Bako)
Subject: Accelator for ci?
Date: 07 Oct 92 01:22:11 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Keywords: IIci, accelator


With everyone drooling over the speed of the Quadras, I'm starting
to feel a bit left out.  So I'd like to get an accelator for my CI.
The only catch is that it seems like everytime I read about the 
pros and cons of any accelator they seem to contradict each other.
For example the Radius Rocket seems to be the most optimal, but
some of the info that I have received suggests that since it goes into
a NuBus slot instead of the PDS it might have some problems.  Also
it requires its own bit of memory which is extra cash...

On the other hand I have little information about the best kind of
accelator for the PDS.  Can anyone send me recommendations, problems,
etc. on accelators for the CI?  Also info on program compatability would
be great.

Also someone posted a question here regarding problems with the internal
video driver of a CI if you install 4m SIMMS into bank A.  Since I am also
planning on adding more memory to my system, I'd like to hear anything
about this.  Is this a true problem or what?

Thansk,

Peter

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From: LVDUANE@SCIVAX.LERC.NASA.GOV (Duane Beach)
Subject: ci->Quadra upgrade(was: price corrections are dumb)
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:58:11 GMT

A number of people asked about Shreve systems after I noted that they
appeared to have the best price for upgrades of a MAC II ci to a Quadra
700.

There phone number is 1-800-227-3971
Shreve Systems
Bossier, LA

I won't quote prices because they are undoubtedly out of date.  At the time
of my purchase, Shreve had the best deal. 
(.EDU pricing excepted, of course )


Duane Beach
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: deek@brahms.udel.edu (Michael J Deerkoski)
Subject: REQUEST - APPLE'S PRE-RELEASE INFO
Reply-To: deek@brahms.udel.edu (Michael J Deerkoski)
Organization: University of Delaware - Apple Student Rep.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:04:47 GMT

In article <1092@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, cobe101@emory.edu (Christopher C. 
Chung) writes:
> From: cobe101@emory.edu (Christopher C. Chung)
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
> Subject: REQUEST - APPLE'S PRE-RELEASE INFO
> Date: 5 Oct 92 01:57:10 GMT
> Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
> 
 
> AS OF FRIDAY OCTOBER 2ND, ALL APPLE DEALERS HAVE 
> RECIEVED THE OFFICIAL PRE-RELEASE INFORMATION ON ALL SYSTEMS
> BEING RELEASED ON OCTOBER 19TH.  IF ANYONE HAS GOTTEN THIER
> HANDS ON ANY OF THIS,  PLEASE POST IT.

Get a clue.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: PB 170 crashes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:04:23 GMT

My PowerBook 170 keeps freezing after about 30 minutes of usage.  I have it
on in Power Saver mode with the battery charged.  Everything freezes-- I can't
even adjust the contrast with the sliding brightness switch.  I know
this is vague but has anyone a suggestion or even a simialr experience?

Mercio Beaucoups for your help and suggestions.
From: cgn@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: WANTED: portable printer for powerbook
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:17:40 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Oct1.141039.10627@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner) writes:
> In <1992Oct1.064217.27016@leland.Stanford.EDU> lagonda@leland.Stanford.EDU (Bobby Liao) writes:
> 
> 
>>	What (battery-powered) portable printers are
>>	available for the PowerBooks?  Prices and
>>	recommendations are greatly appreciated!
> 
> GCC just released the WriteMove II. A battery powered InkJet designed with
> the PowerBook in mind (same color even).
> 
> -G
> --
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I'm not sure the the WriteMove II is an inkjet; I've heard it's a thermal wax
transfer technology that uses a ribbon.  I'd like to know:

How many pages per minute?
How loud?
Cost per page?
Reliability?
Output quality; do you need special paper?

If anyone has experience with this machine, It'd be great to hear about it!

craig
cgn@waikato.ac.nz      Craig Nevill-Manning, Waikato University, New Zealand.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: parkyn@fraser.sfu.ca (Dale Parkyn)
Subject: Re: Envisio powerbook display adaptor - any good?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 19:28:00 GMT

leonard@cs.UAlberta.CA (Leonard Harris) writes:

>Hi - I finally found a place that had powerbook 100's instock - but
>they are 2/20's with an envisio display adaptor card that adds 2 mb.
>Are these cards any good - on a pb100 - will they drive a color display
>with reasonable speed. (does the pb100 have color quickdraw in its roms?)
>oh- the price was $999 for the above machine.

I find it difficult to believe there is an Envisio adapter card in there. Did
you actually see the external video port connector? Perhaps Envisio was 
selling them off cheap as the PB100 is out of production now/soon.

Regarding the Envisio adapter board. I have one for the PB140. Be aware that
you probably will not be able to expand your RAM beyond the 4MB total. Envisio
stresses, in the written documentation, that NOTHING OTHER THAN AN ORIGINAL
APPLE 2MB MODULE should be placed into the slot on the Envisio adaptor. With the
2MB on-motherboard RAM and the 2MB limit in the Envisio slot you will only
ever get 4MB total. To get more than 2MB the Envisio board has RAM placed ON
it. The Envisio board could be ordered with 0 2 4 6 MB embedded on the board.

My opinion:
 A $1000 for a PB100 4/20 with external monitor capability is a reasonable buy.
 You should be able to use a colour monitor (I use the Apple 13 inch in 256 
 colours) but in monochrome only. The PB100 is 68000 based - no colour I believe.
 *** JUST LOOKED AT THE back of the Envisio box - The NDA1 and NDA2 (# indicates
 RAM?) work only in 1 bit (B/W)...
 The speed of operation is fine!

Dale 
parkyn@sfu.ca
From: hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:48:05 GMT
Reply-To: hades@Dartmouth.Edu
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
Disclaimer: Personally, I really don't care who you think I speak for.
Moderator: Rec.Arts.Comics.Info

flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip Russell) writes:

>In article <DRAND.92Sep29110437@spinner.osf.org> drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas S. Rand) writes:
>>In MacUser the sound was listed as monaural input and output with
>>stereo output from the CD player only.

>This is something I've never considered before.

>Do any other Macs have stereo input?

    No. All of the macs sold with the microphone have mono input, and
these are the only macs with sound input at all.

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	 you find yourself hoping to see the Energizer Bunny."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: nkhr@leland.Stanford.EDU (Tetsushi Nakahara)
Subject: Re: 3 button mouse for Mac
Reply-To: nkhr@leland.Stanford.EDU (Tetsushi Nakahara)
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 22:49:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.230256.18601@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> andrijn@comm.mot.com (Andrij Neczwid) writes:
>I'm running ObjectWorks for the Mac, and the "nicest"
>way to use it is to have a 3 button mouse that has
>its three buttons programmed to:
>
>   Click    <Option>-Click   <Command>-Click
>
>So, I bought a LOGiTECH Mouse-Man for the Mac with
>"... fully programmable 3 button mouse functionality..."
>and found, to my dismay (and confirmed by their technical
>support) that I can't programm the middle and right
>mouse buttons the way I want (though in some "future"
>release I should be able to, due to the volume of
>requests for this particular setup).

Use QuicKeys 2. A versatile keyboard macro program from CE Software.

You just program middle and right mouse buttons so that each of them
produces such a weird key stroke like Command-Option-Control-Shift-1,
or whatever, and let QuicKeys hadle the key strokes properly.

I use Mouse Systems' A3 Mouse, which is less programable than
MouseMan, but I can do just about anything with this technique.

Right button of my mouse, by the way, is programed to click the
Close Box of the active window. It's incredibly handy, IMHO.

* I have no connections to either CE Software or Mouse Systems
  except that I am their satisfied customer.

-- 
Tetsushi Nakahara
Stanford University

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From: ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New Mac Price Cuts
Date: 3 Oct 92 14:47:06 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <craig_williams-021092133936@fnpm02.fnal.gov> craig_williams@qmgate.fnal.gov (Craig Williams) writes:
>I know they *were* fairly good, but what about the education prices?? I
>mean now, the Sears price is only a couple hundred more than the Education
>price on a Classic II (according to my newspaper this morning and my NIU
>price sheet)

From what I've read the Performa prices will stay about the same as the EDU
prices.  I think the idea was to sell them at a very low margin and
count on volume to make up the difference.  Actually, if you consider that
the Performa includes ClarisWorks (or similar) applications then the
Performa prices are almost the same as the educational discount around here
(at least for the Classic II/Performa 200).

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ablum@unlinfo.unl.edu (abraham blum)
Subject: Make Internal HD to External HD in Powerbook170-HOW?
Keywords: Powerbook hard drive SCSI
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:32:05 GMT
From: markp@cranham.cc.earlham.edu (Mark Pearson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Video Frame Grabber
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:51:41 GMT
Reply-To: markp@cranham.cc.earlham.edu

I am looking for a (cheap) video frame grabber Nubus card for an educational  
application.
What I want to do is to make a video clip of a ball being thrown / bounced and  
then play it back into a Mac / NeXT / PC, grab successive frames, measure the  
distance travelled by the object and do some high tech fun things with the  
conservation of momentum / Newton etc.
Thus I am not interested in 24 bit color - cruddy low resolution will be fine.

Now, is there such a beast for the Mac? I know I can use something called  
Digital Eyes on the NeXT to do this but I'd like to find a Mac solution as well  
if one exists. Price up to $1,000.

TA!

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