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From: rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine)
Subject: Re: e: What are best albums of Genesis?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:20:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.200907.3115@sei.cmu.edu> ledgerj@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu  
(Jim Ledger) writes:

> Interesting.  This suggests that you regard the departure of Gabriel as
> the "end" of Genesis.

That's about the size of it. Although I have to admit "Trick" was a  
valient effort and I have enjoyed occasional post-Gabriel offerings.
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> "Duke" was the last album I was really impressed with.

Bwah ha ha ... BWAH HA HA HA... Stop it, you're killing me!
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At least we agree on the "And Then There Was Phil" album. 

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From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Will the real Genesis please stand up?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:59:41 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Jul23.173849.27925@sei.cmu.edu> ledgerj@ajpo.sei.cmu.edu (Jim Ledger) writes:
>Ok - NOW. For those of you who feel that Gabriel, in a sense, took
>Genesis with him when he left (Eber, Roy, et. al.). Just out of

Don't feel that way, really. When he left he just left and started his
own thing. Genesis was already past it's peak by then...

>curiosity, what was the first Genesis album you heard/enjoyed?
>I'm wondering if there is a correlation between the era in which
>people first found Genesis, and their opinion as to which
>incarnation is the "real" Genesis.

I got "Foxtrot" and "Trespass" within a week of one another, enjoyed both
IMO the band peaked at "Selling england.." and the decline started with
(although it was still quite good) "Lamb".by "Duke" the downhill slide
was complete. everything after was rubbish.

ptlk (ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha)
Subject: Re: Genesis: What everybody misses
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:56:18 GMT

steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman) writes:

   [original thrust of debate deleted so that I could focus on
    one semi-related line]

>I don't think he's [Phil Collins] really evolved at all, especially if you 
  compare him to
>Gabriel, who *is* on the leading edge.  

I was *extremely* dissapointed by _Shaking the Tree_; the new "Here Comes the
Flood" was OK but nothing superspecial, there were too many songs from _So_,
some songs were mangled singles versions, etc.

Does anyone know if this was a contractual obligation or something? Is there
hope for Peter, or has he been hanging around with Phil'n'Mike'n'Tony lately?
_Passion_ was *fantastic*, but is the new material he's working on some
more wondrous Peter stuff, or is it annoying garbage? Please, does anyone
know if Peter is alright?

***gLITTOfERN*** glitto@iastate.edu
From: oser@fermi.wustl.edu (Scott Oser)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Apology
Date: 28 Jul 1992 20:31:36 GMT
Organization: Washington University Astrophysics
NNTP-Posting-Host: fermi.wustl.edu

	I just want to apologize for going off on whoever suggested that
Kansas and Genesis were inappropriate for this group.  I didn't realize
that he was not serious but just confused about the purpose of this group,
and so in retrospect I acted out of haste.  I have no wish of starting
a flame war, and hope we can let the issue drop.
	The name of this group is bound to cause confusion again, and so
I suggest that we should just politely respond by private e-mail, as I
should have done.  After all, we have a lot better things to discuss.

Humbly yours,
oser@fermi.wustl.edu

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From: krm3611@sigma.tamu.edu (Ken McWatters)
Subject: Name That Tune
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Keywords: Can anyone help me out on this?  
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:22:00 GMT

   Hey, I hope that this request is not too passe for this group, who 
collectively seem to possess so much knowledge of progressive rock, but here's
the thing.  About three years ago, I heard, 2 or 3 times, a song on an AOR 
station that's definitely progressive rock.  It sounds cool, and so I've tried
to find out the artist/title with no luck since then.  I can't identify the 
lead singer, but someone that sounds like Phil Collins sings backup vocals in 
the chorus.   Here's some of the lyrics (as I best recollect):

	Stand up on your feet;  your life is cold as hell
	You could be dead tomorrow;  this could be
		<chorus>
	Your last chance to believe in yourself
	Your last chance 
	Your last chance to be good to yourself
	Your last chance to drink from life's well
	Drink from the well... oh yeah

If you can name that tune, you can win...  well, my appreciation, anyway.

Thanks,

Ken
From: macon@gallifry.Berkeley.EDU (Glen Macon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Gentle Giant
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:03:33 GMT
Reply-To: macon@cbmvax.commodore.com (Glen Macon)
Organization: COMMODORE West Cester PA


In article <1992Jul28.174340.22248@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
David.A.Wolk@dartmouth.edu (David A. Wolk) writes:
...
|> times it is kind of weak.  What albums would you suggest are their
|> best?
|> Thanks,
|> Dave

'octopus' is one of my favorite albums.  it's also on cd.

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   \_             \_ \_\_ \_            Standard disclaimer...    
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     \_       \_    \_      \_           Who wants to know...
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All those moments will be lost in time, like tears in the rain.
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From: tiverson@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Thor Iverson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive,rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Jon and ... Kitaro!
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:40:37 GMT
Followup-To: alt.music.progressive
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

In article <1992Jul27.173532.5773@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>The album (CD) is called "Dreams", but I don't know what the
>actual date of release is.

Well, I mentioned the album a week or two ago, but...

It's already out.

No, I haven't heard it.

No, I'm not sure that I want to.

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From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance
Keywords: Progressive
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:22:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973

In article <1992Jul28.074043.18030@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> c60a-zg@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Martin Guerrero-LabA) writes:
>Say, has anyone heard of this group?
>
>Based on the responses to Genesis, Kansas, ELP, etc., probably not.
>
>I'd say it is pretty interesting music.  
>
>Give a few guesses at the type of music they play.


Yes, I've heard of them.  I have their compilation disc that was
recently released domestically in the U.S.  (Previously, I had only seen
DCD material available as very expensive imports.)

Very interesting music, indeed.  I suppose they're progressive in one
sense, but not as the term applies to this newsgroup.  There's been a
lot of discussion around here about what constitutes a "progressive"
band.  Here's my dos centavos:

Progressive music once (in the 70's) meant a particular genre of rock.
It was a label for the times much like 'punk' or 'acid', etc.  That time
has elapsed.  Now, "progressive" refers to a select number of bands from
the 70's.  Generally, Genesis, Yes, ELP, and maybe a couple of others.

Many people become enraged that their favorite modern bands are not
discussed on this group, especially when that group is extremely cutting
edge and, in the strict sense of the word, progressive.  Hey!  Why isn't
[group here] discussed on this group?  They're far more progressive than
those old dinosaur bands you keep hanging on to!

They've missed the point.  There really is a distinction between the
dictionary definition of the word and the word as it applies to a
specific catalogue of bands.

I imagine in 10 years people will be arguing over what "alternative"
means.  In the end, it dosen't matter.  It's just a label.


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From: BUEBL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Buebl Felix)
Subject: Re: Re: Apology
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:27:49 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

> I think we should rename this newsgroup:
>
> alt.music.1970.style.prototypical.blathering.keyboards.progressive.and.not.
> 80s.or.90s.pseudo.alternative.crap.manufactured.by.talentless.morons.
> and.marketed.by.equally.moronic.record.companies.to.pimply.high.school.
> students

that's a good idea, but it's too friendly towards the modern bands.

I still would like

alt.ain't.no.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.
da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.diduf.
df.da.df.da...music

Why do "alternative musicians" have MORE brain cells then chicken?

Just to make sure that they don't shit on the streets.

Felix
From: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Dixie Dregs discography
Summary: Unsung Heroes on CD?
Keywords: dixie dregs morse
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:01:59 GMT
Reply-To: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Followup-To: alt.music.progressive
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Jul20.183432.19820@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> palmer@tallis.enet.dec.com (Colonel Mode) writes:
>
>Freefall
>What If
>Night of the Living Dregs
>Dregs of the Earth
>Unsung Heroes
>Industry Standard
>Bring 'Em Back Alive
>
>All of the above except for Industry Standard were released on CD. I believe
>"Dregs of the Earth" and "Unsung Heroes" are now out of print.
>*****
>Chris Palmer
>palmer@tallis.enet.dec.com "Colonel Mode"

Huh?  _Unsung Heroes_ was released on CD?  Maybe you are thinking of the
Dregs' best-of CD, which had a lot of that album on it.

BTW, if you have the new live album, care to post some info on it?

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From: gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Re: Apology
Keywords: bitter sarcasm
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:31:32 GMT
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof

In article <1992Jul30.112749.18645@wega.rz.uni-ulm.de>,
BUEBL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Buebl Felix) writes:

>>
alt.music.1970.style.prototypical.blathering.keyboards.progressive.and.n
not.
>>
80s.or.90s.pseudo.alternative.crap.manufactured.by.talentless.morons.
>>
and.marketed.by.equally.moronic.record.companies.to.pimply.high.school.
>> students
>
>that's a good idea, but it's too friendly towards the modern bands.
>
>I still would like
>
>alt.ain't.no.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.d
da.df.
>da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.df.da.di
iduf.
>df.da.df.da...music
>
>Why do "alternative musicians" have MORE brain cells then chicken?
>
>Just to make sure that they don't shit on the streets.



Yeah, man.  Modern bands suck!  Live in the past! 


s
now _that's_ "progresssive"
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: Who is 'Progressive' in the 90s
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:14:11 GMT

Tori Amos.
From: daniel@usna.navy.mil (Walter K. Daniel)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: New St. George: prog. elec. folk concerts
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:32:10 GMT
Distribution: dc
Organization: US Naval Academy

Some of you out there may be familiar with The New St. George, what I 
would term a "progressive electric folk rock" band from the Washington, DC 
area.  While Celtic folk is the base of their music, they use drums, 
electric bass, and synthesizers.  The effect is something like the Oyster 
Band; to use better known groups, I'd say more rock than Clannad but less 
than Horselips.

New St. George has been playing lots of outdoor festivals and concerts 
this summer.  I've been to a couple and they were great!  I especially 
like it when Jennifer Cutting uses a wireless microphone on her melodeon 
and leaps (well, walks) into the audience to rock out on an Irish jig.  Of 
course, she did walk in front of the PA in Columbia and got some wicked 
feedback...

Here are some August New St. George dates:

August 1 & 2:  Rocky Gap Festival, Rocky Gap State Park.  For tickets, 
call 301/724-2511
August 23:  at the 8 X 10 club in Baltimore, $3 cover for three bands.  
Info, 410/625-2000
August 29:  Taliano's Resturant and Bar in Takoma Park, $4 cover.  Info, 
301/270-5515

If you wish to send a letter to the band (for example, to get on the 
mailing list), write to
The New St. George, 34 Hickory Ave, Takoma Park, MD  20912.  They do have 
a tape and have been in the studio working on new material.

[Note:  I'm sending this to the "dc" distribution on netnews.  I'd 
appreciate getting email from folks who are interested in the band so I 
can see how far this posting travels.  For example, anyone in Baltimore 
get this?  How about Northern VA?  Maryland suburbs?  Thanks!]

***********************************
Asst Prof Walter K. Daniel
Aerospace Engineering Dept.
US Naval Academy
daniel@usna.navy.mil
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From: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com ( Peter The Lighthouse Keeper )
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: U.Zero (was: Re: Who is 'Progressive' in the 90s)
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:12:57 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


In article <malcolm.712259227@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:

>Univers Zero is sort of a progressive band. I think it's actually been 
>a few years since their last release. This music is sort of neo-classical
>gothic art rock. Intense drumming and guitar mixed with wind and string
>stuff that at times sounds more like a classical ensemble than a rock
>band. Lots of bassoons ans stuff like that, and a spine chilling intensity
>that is more suspenseful than any classical music I've ever heard, and 
>pretty much the same in a rock context too, with only people coming close
>in my book being Fripp and Crimson circa Red and Starless. But since 
>a lot of people have already raved about Univers Zero here....

What is it with these guys. This is not the first rave review i've read
about their stuff, but IMHO it sounds a lot like some boring grade-B
soundtrack music; I even believed one of these reviews and went and
bought two of their albums ("1313" and "Heatwave"); you talkabout a rock
context (???) I look at the credits on the album sleeves and I see guitar,
bass and drums, along with the violas and bassoons and other etcetera,
but I don't hear ANY rock context in there anywhere, this is definitely
NOT rock... what "Intense Drumming" ?? Furthermore, I think these guys
go out of their way to make every aspect of their music as unpleasant
as possible.I don't think you can fairly mention these guys in the same
breath as King Crimson. Yes, Crimson did get out there at times but they
were always rooted in some semblance of substantive rock based music.
UZ are just plain out there....or is there something I'm not hearing!

Furthermore, according to Wayside, these guys are history: "Heatwave"
was their last, now leader Daniel Denis is doing his solo gig.

While we're talking about this dark-industro-progressive stuff, you might
be interested in a band from Canada called MIROIDOR, and also a band from
Kentucky (I Think) called FRENCH TV. Both of these, while out there, are
still very substantive and not as intentfully amelodic (as UZ), and seem
to draw some influence from the classic french fusion band MAGMA.


peter (ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com)  "The Lighthouse Keeper"
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: Seconds Out
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:59:52 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.033613.5419@wpi.WPI.EDU> martino@encore.WPI.EDU  
(Robert Paul Martino Jr) writes:
> 
> I just got Seconds Out a few days ago right here in the U.S. and it has  
that
> little Merman thing at the end if I remember correctly.  Did I get a UK
> version somehow.
> 
> Rob
> 
Hmmm - the initial US release I heard of Seconds Out didn't have it - I  
swear! My apologies if it's been re-mastered...

Then again if you're talking abiut the CD it's common to use an alternate  
master for the CD vs. the original LP.

Gordon
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From: jarnot@kin.lap.upenn.edu (Kevin J. Jarnot)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Re: Apology
Keywords: bitter sarcasm
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:02:47 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Language Analysis Center

In article <1992Jul30.143132.26946@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans) writes:
>alt.music.1970.style.prototypical.blathering.keyboards.progressive.and.n
>not.
>80s.or.90s.pseudo.alternative.crap.manufactured.by.talentless.morons.
>>>
>and.marketed.by.equally.moronic.record.companies.to.pimply.high.school.
>>> students
>>Why do "alternative musicians" have MORE brain cells then chicken?
>>Just to make sure that they don't shit on the streets.
>
>Yeah, man.  Modern bands suck!  Live in the past! 
>now _that's_ "progresssive"


No, no, no...that's "Living in the Past" by Jethro Tull...and, yes, it's
very progressive... ;-)

Scott does have a point, but I have to agree that many of the new alternative
bands ARE lousy, IMHO...alot of the same trash done over and over by identically
looking and sounding bands...

There are in fact many good new alternative bands too, but this isn't the 
place to discuss them.

Kevin

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Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: bill@verdix.com (William Spencer)
Subject: Re: You Have a Right To Rock
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:49:19 GMT

gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans) writes:

>What YOU don't understand, Scott, is the mentality of some of these
>people.  They aren't just looking to ban 2 Live Crew.  Show some of
>them some King Crimson, or the cover of Naked City album.  They will
>tell you that it's *the devil* at work.  Lots of things that I 
>consider "real rock", like Mr. Bungle, for instance, would shock
>the shit out of some people if they took a good look at it.
>King Crimson, too, has some pretty bent stuff.  Wouldn't it be
>strange if, when you were 17 and went to buy a Crimson album,
>the guy said "sorry, you're underage"?  

I still wonder what my mom thought about me listening to that stuff!
In fact, it's almost funny what metallers call "heavy" after hearing
some of the Prog stuff.

>And saying your music doesn't fall victim to it so you don't care
>is NOT a valid excuse.

ALL true artists believe in free expression. ALL kinds.

Incidently, I'd think "progressive" people would be the most concerned.

Bill s
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: Genesis: What everybody misses
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:36:49 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.145618.10375@news.iastate.edu> glitto@iastate.edu  
(Scott M Klabacha) writes:
> steinman@me.utoronto.ca (David Steinman) writes:
> _Passion_ was *fantastic*, but is the new material he's working on some
> more wondrous Peter stuff, or is it annoying garbage? Please, does  
anyone
> know if Peter is alright?
> 
I afree about Passion, and we should know shortly whether Peter is alright  
- there's an album scheduled for release early Fall I believe.

Gordon
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From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: Dead Can Dance
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:27:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.074043.18030@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>  
c60a-zg@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Martin Guerrero-LabA) writes:
> Say, has anyone heard of this group?
> 
> Based on the responses to Genesis, Kansas, ELP, etc., probably not.
> 
> I'd say it is pretty interesting music.  
> 
> Give a few guesses at the type of music they play.

I got into Dead Can Dance after hearing their contributions to the 4AD  
compilation "Lonely is an Eyesore". Not suprisingly then, I prefer their  
older material before they got into more or less traditional Gregorian  
chant forms. A lot of their material is truly amazing.

I like several bands on 4AD. Are you familiar with This Mortal Coil? Due  
to the nature of this "group" the material is highly variable but a lot of  
it is quite good.

By the way, can't I like ELP and Dead Can Dance? I mean whoever would have  
thought mixing Gregorian chants with Eastern music with modern forms would  
be so cool? (And Enigma doesn't count).

Gordon
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From: ptt00@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (  179  Peter Thelen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: e: What are best albums of Genesis?
Date: 26 Jul 92 07:06:07 GMT
Reply-To: ptt00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Jul24.152004.21225@linus.mitre.org> rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.235131.20528@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
>orpheus@leland.Stanford.EDU (Owen Duncan Smith) writes:
>> >> >>> >> > >> >But me... I'm just a lawn mower
>> >> >>> >> > >> I can tell by the way you walk.
>> >> >>> >> > >It must be a draw...  there's no one left alive.
>> >> >>> >> > So the Blackcap Barons toss a coin to settle the score.
>> >> >>> >> The Pied Piper takes his children underground
>> >> >>> >Mild mannered supermen are held by kryptonite
>> >> >>> And the foolish virgins giggle with their bodies' glowing bright
>> >> >>Amongst the weeds and slimey waters
>> >> >we're gonna make it right - tonight, tonight, tonight   oh, oh
>> >> And the seven trumpets blowing sweet rock and roll
>> >See me stretch for God's elastic acre
>> A flower?!?
>He places the number into the tube 

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