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From: stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: sorry for TAB postings to wrong group
Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:29:55 -0600
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Sorry for posting TAB requests to this group, I went brain dead after
11 pm yesterday.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
From: pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi (Pasi Korhonen)
Subject: Re: New Amp from Mesa!
Organization: Ripoff Industries
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:33:36 GMT

Mike Woo (mike@vm1.mcgill.ca) wrote:

: amp - a 2x12 DUAL RECTIFIER Combo!  To my knowledge this is their first 

	I saw some preliminary specs in dec '92 about 19" rack mountable
	Dual Rectifier head...

	Pasi
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From: wrm@friskie.WPI.EDU (William Michalson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Midi Foot Controller Specs?
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:43:36 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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I confess, I missed the original posting so this may be redundant.  However,
I think it would be most useful if people who have the various brands of
MIDI foot controllers would post a brief summary containing:

-	A basic rundown of the features/specifications
-	Approximate price paid.
-	Contact information (company name/address)
-	Summary of the good, bad, and ugly.

In this form, people could line up features wanted with those provided and
have user commentary as well.  Obviously, the basic info need be supplied
only once :-).

Bill
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From: frankc@tgf.tc.faa.gov (Frank Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Guitar repairs (cheap?)
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:22:47 GMT
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Let me see if I've got this right.

You have a cheap, crumby guitar that
a) needs a new neck,
b) needs a new bridge,
c) needs new tuning keys,
d) needs new pickups.

Did you ever consider, perhaps, getting a new guitar? ;}


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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:25:41 -0500 
From: "Philip F. Gomez" <pg25+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Electronic Tuners
	<1993Jan20.000126.5073@cronkite.ocis.temple.edu>

If you're going to buy an electric tuner, make sure that it has a
chromatic readout and a built in microphone for tuning acoustic
instruments.  This will help you greatly as far as keeping your guitar
in tune but I would also like to mention a side benefit of the built in
mike and chromatic readout...

When you hold your tuner near a stereo and play the songs that you want
to figure out, the tuner will tell you (most of the time) what chords
the artist is playing!  It works great for simple songs, ok for harder
ones and you can't figure out solos with it but it still has it's merits.


Good luck with yours,
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: munoz@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (David Munoz)
Subject: Re: Guitar making
Organization: Boeing Computer Services
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:17:29 GMT

William Spaulding Wood (ww1i+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: Does anyone know anything about the craft of constructing your own
: guitar, ie: truss rods, guitar bodies, etc...
: Any good books on the subject?

A couple of author references that come to mind are listed below.  Sorry I 
don't have the titles.  It's been a while since I looked at them.

	David Young - he has an excellent book on acoustic guitar construction.
	Overholtzer, - classical guitar construction, his technique is a little 
		       cumbersome but good info.

For materials, I't call Luthier's Mercantile in Healdsburg, CA.  There catalog
is more like a reference book of all the things anybody could use building an
acoustic or electric guitar.  Also, my favorite source of guitar knowledge is
Gryphon Stringed Instruments on Lambert Street in Palo Alto, CA.  These guys
can probably tell you lots of good reference works on acoustic instrument
construction.  They're mainly an acoustic instrument sales and repair place,
but they have lots of little guitar knick-knacks that are hard to find.

Good Luck 
David Munoz


Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: soh@gdstech.grumman.com (Scott O'Hare)
Subject: Re: Classic Guitar Setup
Reply-To: soh@gdstech.UUCP (Scott O'Hare)
Organization: Grumman Data Systems-Woodbury
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:17:01 GMT

In article <296.1389.uupcb@almac.co.uk> brian.morrissey@almac.co.uk (Brian Morrissey) writes:
>Quoting Steve Wyrick:
>SW>strings still go out of tune very quickly for about a week.  I think this
>SW>is normal for this sort of string; I have the same problem with gut or
>SW>nylon strings on my violin.
>
>I have found new strings going out of tune a ploblem too, and would be
>very interested in finding out if there is a way to avoid it.
>Tutorials, books, mags, etc. I have read don't even mention it as a
>problem. Is there a way round it ?
>

well, like I said in an earlier response on this thread, if you take 
you newly strung strings and stretch them out away from the guitar 
several times, like an archer drawing a bow, and do this each time 
you pick up the guitar for the first day or so, you will find that 
eliminates about 80% of the tuning problem on break-in.

> . SLMR 2.1a . It's deja vu all over again.

right.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (NATHAN PHILLIP STEWART)
Subject: Re: 57 strat
Originator: npstewar@c00017-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (NATHAN PHILLIP STEWART)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 02:54:57 GMT


I've played several 50's reissues and one 57 reissue. Most comments hold for 
both guitars, but I really hate the hard V neck on the 57.  If you would really
like an alder or ash body for the 50's soft V neck, you can buy the 50's 
Japanese reissue and replace the body. I know it's not the same guitar, but 
Stewart-MacDonald Sells Strat bodies for ~$90 and ~$130 for a finished Strat
body (Two sunburst variants only.) At this price, you could buy 5-6 bodies and
try 'em all untill you get a magic combination and still be less than buying
both a 50's and a 57 reissue. (And much less than a custom shop deal.)

npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu
Nathan Stewart
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: juggle@athena.mit.edu (unknown)
Subject: Re: REQ: B52s Rock Lobster
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 03:54:15 GMT

In article <9301220512.AA05811@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca> stevep@snowhite.cis.uoguelph.ca (Steve Portigal) writes:
> I'm sure someone out there can suggest a little as to how to play
>this song...

Well, I'm willing to *try*.  I think the tuning on this song is a bit odd.
This is off of the top of my head, I have no idea if it's right or even
close:

Rock Lobster, B52s

  main riff:
e-----------------------------  
a----------------------------- 
d----------------------------- 
g----------------------------- 
b----------------3p2---3p2---- 
E--0--2--3--3p2--------------- 


e---4---3---1---0---4--3--1--0---4-3-1-0-4-3-1-0-1-0-1p0-3-4----
a---------------------------------------------------------------
d---------------------------------------------------------------
g---------------------------------------------------------------
b---------------------------------------------------------------
E---------------------------------------------------------------

	Sincerely,
	Joseph Grossman
	juggle@athena.mit.edu
From: pjolicoe@watcgl.uwaterloo.ca (Pierre Jolicoeur)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: effects loop question
Date: 27 Jan 93 23:28:55 GMT
Organization: Computer Graphics Laboratory, University of Waterloo, Ontario, Canada


I recently got a Marshall amp with an effects loop output/input after the
preamp stage, before the power output amp stage.

I have an FX-500 effects unit.

Previously, I played through a Rolland JC-77.  The guitar output would
go directly into the FX500, and the output of the FX500 into the input
of the JC77.

Now, the guitar goes directly into the Marshall input, with the
FX500 in the effects loop.

One issue that has come up is that the compression stage of the FX500
now defeats (partially or totally depending on the slope of the
compression stage) any volume difference between the clean and overdrive
channels in the Marshall.

Question:  has anyone else out there run into this `problem', and what
was your solution?  Previously, I liked having a few settings on
the FX500 with lots of compression at the front end in order to generate
a lead sound with lots of sustain...

PJ
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: fndaj@acad3.alaska.edu (JOHNSON DANIEL A)
Subject: Resinator guitars (was Dobros)
Summary: Value of old National  
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:17:00 GMT

In article <1993Jan19.181610.21489@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, jmorton@euler.Berkeley.EDU (John Morton) writes...
>In article <18JAN93.16030649@skyfox> holtslander@skyfox writes:
>>Bill c. asks what is the cheapest you can but a Dobro (resonator style guitar)
> 
>"Dobro" does not equal "resonator style guitar".
> 
>>for.  A genuine Dobro or National will cost you dearly.  OMI instruments
>>currently (since the early 70's) owns the rights to the Dobro name.  They make
>>pretty good guitars (I have one) they cost about $1500 - $2500 new (I haven't
>>checked recently.  There is a relatively new company National Resophonic Guitar
>>Company that are making resophonic guitars (wood body and electrics no steel body
> 
>They are now selling metal-bodied guitars which resemble the old ones.  They
>are plated brass, not steel.  I have handled and listened to one, and it
>seemed OK, but no bargain at $1750 or so.
> 
I have an old National tri-cone which I purchased many years ago.  From photos
I have seen in books on resinators, I estimate it was built in the 
late 20s (1927?).  It is in good shape - certainly looks original to me from
the tuning pegs on down.  My question is:  although I am not hot to sell the
thing, I am curious about the value and would consider selling it.  I don't
have access to anyone who trades in vintage guitars up here (that I know of any
way), does anyone have opinions on its value or how to value it?  Thanks  


Dan Johnson  Fairbanks, AK (cold and dark - a good time to practice guitar!)
From: thall@cs.unc.edu (Andrew Thall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Thumb chords
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:12:06 GMT
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill
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In article <1k3qjiINNokm@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com>, mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti) writes:
|> In article <1jkrmjINNa83@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU>
|>                                         cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:
|> 
|> >Michael R. Kesti (mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com) wrote:
|> 
|> >I suppose it becomes a matter of how good one wishes to become.
|> 
|> >	dont confuse "good" with "technical profecency"

[lots deleted]
|> Here is where I think you are wrong.  I see no reason why your expressive
|> talent would be in any way diminished by good technique, and can only imagine
|> that you would be a much better player if you had the benefit of both your
|> talent and good technique.
|> 
|> >	have a look at Jimi some day 
|> 
|> I assure you that I have, perhaps for longer than you've been alive. ;-)
|> Jimi was a one in a million guitarist; he had such an incredible gift of
|> expressiveness that his lousy technique did not detract from his playing
|> and his career.  The other 999,999 of us are, I think, fooling ourselves
|> if we think that we can achieve similar heights using only the expressive
|> talents we possess.
|> 
|> Take a look at a couple of more recent successes: Joe Satriani and Eric
|> Johnson.  I feel that both of them have achieved their heights by combining
|> their ability to express and excellent technique.  Do you disagree?
|>

On the other hand--don't confuse "individual style" with "bad technique".
I can only scoff at remarks about Hendrix's "bad technique"--sure, Segovia
never did a sleeve-wipe up the fretboard, but he never played a Strat through
a Marshall stack, either.  Hendrix with his "bad technique" still managed
such gems as "Pali Gap", "The Wind Cried Mary", "Castles Are Made of Sand",
and suchlike...seems like a pretty fair technique to me--more than I'll ever
master in this lifetime.

Satriani, Johnson, Steve Morse...all the techno-monsters...don't you think
they put their thumbs wherever the hell they feel like it, depending on 
whether they're playing rapid scale runs, wacked out chords, or BBKing style
vibrato?  The idea that technique and feel somehow vary inversely is bullsh*t.
"Technique" is simply how one achieves the maximum expressiveness in one's
playing.

On the other hand--for those who think that technical studies (scales, arpeggios,
etc, all that classical and jazz stuff) will get in the way of their "feel";
from personal experience, as someone who plays mostly old blues, I can tell you,
an hour or two a day of scale studies on a steel string acoustic will at the
very least give you hands-of-Hercules...and you'll find strong hands make an
incredible difference in one's "feel", even/especially when playing subtle and
intricate blues riffs.

Just my 2&1/2 cents worth.

-- 
Andrew "Only-the-worthless-can-be-reformed" Thall 
aka thall@cs.unc.edu
--"...and God turned to him and said, '--What was your name again?'"
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: jtkung@netcom.com (Joseph T. Kung)
Subject: Fender Set Neck Stratocaster
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:18:33 GMT

Here's some info on this guitar :

Set Neck Stratocaster
---------------------

Part Number:	010-2500
Body:		Honduras Mahogany
		Book Matched Highly Fugured Top.
Neck:		Maple (Set In)
Machine Heads:  Fender/Schaller Locking Keys
Fretboard:      Ebony (12" radius/305 mm)
No. of Frets:   22
Pickups:        Fender-Lace Blue Sensor (Strat-style) [Neck]
		Fender-Lace Gold Sensor (Strat-style) [Mid]
		2 Fender-Lace Red Sensors (Strat-style) [Bridge]
Controls:	Master Volume, Tone [neck], TBX [Middle, Bridge]
Bridge/Tremolo: Strat Deluxe Tremolo w/ Fender-Wilkinson Roller Nut
Pickup Switching: 5 Position Blade, (Special design) 3 position coil selector
Scale length:   25.5" (648 mm)
Neck Width @ Nut : 1.6875" (43 mm)
Colors :        Natural, Antique Burst, Crimson Burst, Ebony Transparent
		Brite White.


-----

- Joe
From: clopton5107@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Help W/ pickup for 1945 Arch-top
Date: 28 Jan 93 11:59:07 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

        I just inherited a 1945 Harmony Cremona from my mother.  I'm getting it
restored to playable condition, and would like to put a pickup in it.
        It is an arch-top (f-holes), and I was wondering if anybody could
suggest what sort of pickup would work best.  I don't need eq or volume on the
guitar, good, flat tone, reliability, and to not mess up the guitar's accoustic
properties, or asthetics.
        
        Please e-mail to me.  I may miss a posted reply.
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From: DMUT000 <DMUT@MUSIC.LIB.MATC.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,rec.music.makers
Subject: Roland GP-16 Users
Date: 24 JAN 93 00:08:10 CST
Organization: Milwaukee Area Technical College
NNTP-Posting-Host: 148.8.64.2

Roland GP-16 Owners:

My personal opinion of the GP-16 is that it's one of the best sounding
guitar effects processors on the market.  However, I've found that
inorder to get great sound out of it, I have to create my own patches.
I feel that many of the preprogramed patches that the GP-16 comes with
are not very useful.

If anyone is interested in trading patches that you've created, I'd be
willing to post some of my own that I think are hot.

This is my first posting so I apologize if this didn't work right.

                                  Thanx


Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: balon@cup.hp.com (Tom Balon)
Subject: Re: Fender Princeton Amp Prices?
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:02:32 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Cupertino, CA

In article <28619@dog.ee.lbl.gov> Steve Wyrick <sjwyrick@csa3.lbl.gov> writes:
>Can anyone give me typical US prices on a Fender Princeton Reverb amp?  I
>saw one in a San Francisco area store for $350; don't know year, it was a
>silver face, from the condition I'd say made in 70's?  The guy also had a
>black face Princeton (non reverb) for $300.  I think these are both
>overpriced?

	I agree. I picked up a '65 black face last summer for $200.00. 

	Tom
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From: flloyd@l1-a.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE])
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Flame-Proof Resistors?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 16:10:46 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Phoenix, AZ
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In article <1993Jan20.164511.293@megatek.com> bud@megatek.com writes:
>In article <mike.26@vm1.mcgill.ca> mike@vm1.mcgill.ca (Mike Woo) writes:
>>
>>     The latest GP mag makes reference to "flame-proof" resistors in 
>>the article on modifying a Bassman head.  Are these just some special
>>type of resistor by another name (power resistors, metal-film, etc)?
>>
>>Just curious,
>>Mike (The Dr.) Woo      
>
>     Flame proof resistors should be available in most any good electronics
>parts stores, (not radio shack).  The body of a flame proof resistor is
>blue instead of brown.  Hope this helps.  (:


They're also known as metal film resistors.


-fred


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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: jtblair@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (John Blair)
Subject: Re: rattling in neck of guitar
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 17:38:09 GMT

In article <1jnru0INN34i@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> shaffer-wendy@yale.edu (Wendy Shaffer) writes:
>Last night I noticed this strange rattling sound in my guitar...It sounds like 
>it is coming from the neck, near the headstock.  The only thing that I can
>figure is that part of the truss rod or something came loose and is rattling
>around or something.  Can anybody tell me what this is, if it is a serious  
>problem, and what the best way to get it fixed is?  
>Thanks..
>---Wendy
>shaffer@minerva.cis.yale.edu
>

A few comments to be taken with a grain of salt.  Truss rods can rattle
or buzz.  A real rattle I would think would mean either that it's broken
or that the nut on one end has come loose.  If the latter you should be 
able to feel that it's loose and tighten it up easily without changing
the relief on the neck.  (If it's an electric, you may have to take the neck
off to do this.  I don't know.)   If it's a buzz, you first make sure it
isn't a high or loose fret, or a brace inside the guitar, or anything that
you can think up.  You can then tighten up the truss rod just a bit to
see if it helps, and as a last resort, you take off frets at several places,
drill a small hole, and pump some glue or silicon in there.  I'm not sure
I would do any of those things myself.  If fact, I'm not absolutely sure
they're appropriate.  I have read such things, however.  Find a good
luthier, or call a mail order luthier supply, and ask advice.
Good luck, 
john [:^
      \
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From: olavt@ulrik.uio.no (Olav Torvund)
Subject: Re: Goodbye Blue Sky ( was Re: Lesson a week (NEW) )
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway
	<1993Jan21.025621.3556@news.uiowa.edu>
	<1k0qa9INNbmu@oak24.doc.ic.ac.uk>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:31:18 GMT

In article <1k0qa9INNbmu@oak24.doc.ic.ac.uk> kgs@doc.ic.ac.uk (Kirit Geir Saelensminde) writes:

 
   Not strictly that chord. The tab for that part of the song is:

   E --------------------------------
   B --------------------------------
   G -----------------0--------------
   D -----------4-----------4-----4--
   A --------5-----5-----5-----5-----
   E --------------------------------

   This is repeated ( I think four times ).

   This is slightly different from the chord posted as the notes here
are D Gb G
   which is more a melody line than a chord. The notes in the chord
are D Gb G D E.

I think F# is the correct notation here, and not Gb. I do not know the
song, but the key must be G or (more likely) D, and Gb does not make
sense in that context. If one should put a chord name to it, I would
suggest Dsus4, or D9sus4 if you add the E on top of it.


   The top E does change the sound and strumming it forces it into
sounding like a
   chord ( but I can't think what you would sensibly call it - Gno3
maj 7 add 6 / D
   seems a bit pointless and probably wrong anyway ).

   If anybody is interested I can post the tab for the whole thing to
   rec.music.makers.guitar.tab

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Olav Torvund
University of Oslo
NOrway
Olavt@jus.uio.no
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