From: yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)
Subject: Re: Should Hong Kong be independent?
Organization: R-Node Public Access UNIX System (416-636-2026) - 24 hrs
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 02:03:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr05.082531.18131@ecst.csuchico.edu> cltong@ecst.csuchico.edu (Chin Leung Tong) writes:
>In article <9204030103.AA14075@.euclid.uoregon.edu.> chao@EUCLID.UOREGON.EDU (Kung M. Chao) writes:
>>I think this is an unrealistic issue. Do you think HK is part of
>>China? If HK gets independenct, because HK has a lot of money,
>>why not Shanghai & Canton get independent too? And California can
>>split from US!!!  I think this question/issue only
>>is posed by primary school kid, sorry.
>
>Dear Mr.....,
Mr. Chin. A word of advice: Hitting the return key once in a while is a good
idea.

>	I don't think that is an 'unrealistic and only is posed by primary 
>school kid.' issue.  Should Hong Kong be independent is only be raised when
> Chinese Govt is gonna take over.  Did anyone ask this question before 1980 
>or in 1978?  If you think that there is not legitimate reason for us to have 
>our own domain I guess you are either a special agent from mainland China 
>or a patriot that enjoys living under the rule of Mr Li and Mr Tang (sorry 
>I don't speak Madrian).
You will have to define the "domain" that you are referring to. If you
are referring to living space and environment, than of course you are
right (everybody is entitled to it). But if you are referring to a "independent
nation", then it is definitely not as clean cut as you are suggesting.

As for your character judgement, it is entirely uncalled for. I don't agree
with an independent HK but I am not a special agent, and far from a patriot
for the Chinese Communist party. Your characterization has no place in
a sensible debate. 


>However as far as I can understand your personality from the article you 
>posted . 
Which would be pathetically little....

>You may only at most be qualified to be the latter one.
>I don't mind if you like to be ruled by Mr. Li (Mr 8:20) but I'd rather you 
>respect someone thinks that Hong Kong is his place, is the place he lives, 
>loves and don't want she has to undergo unnecessary changes that may lead to
> the end of a legend.
Are you in any way implying that a independent HK will NOT be an earth-shaking
change?

By the way, am I the only one who is sick to the stomach with HK people
bragging about the so-called "economic miracle/legend"? While HK's development
within these 20 years has been impressive, it is hardly an odd example in
world history.

>	If you think that Calif have the same or similary background that 
>should be indepent from US you Mr.... may need to take a Hist class.  Here 
>we havee
>Hist 8 that is US history to 1887 will help you alot.

HK IS part of China. California is part of the US. If HK can ask for 
independence, why not California? That was the point of the comparison. The
element of history was never brough into the discussion.


>	Also if you think that Canton and Shanghai or anywhere in China  is 
>richso that is reasonable to be indepent I really respect your patriotism. 
> However HONG KONG the place I brought up and love should not be considered 
>only a rich
>city,
Lots of emotion, without substance. Why shouldn't HK be considered as "only
a rich city"?

> but I think you need to go back to secondary school where Chinese History 
>is one of your subject or you can take some class here in your famous UofO 
>there should be some suitable courses for you to understand better the 
>place we 
>(EXCEPT YOU) LOVE. What do you think?
Your point, sir? What is that you understand that he doesn't?

By the way, if Chinese History is called for, I can take you on any day.
So please don't be shy to refer to anything in Chinese history that you might
find that can illustrate your point.


>
>LOTS OF RESPECT 
>Chin.
... But not in your article..


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