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From: edrury@3cpu.rain.com (Ed Drury)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help my cat is skinny!
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:26:36 GMT
Reply-To: edrury@.UUCP (Ed Drury)
Organization: 3cpu's uucp

In article <1992Apr14.125448.20072@watserv1.waterloo.edu> khare@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Kathy Hare - DCS) writes:
>I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas that would help me.  I have a male
>unneuter tabby who is about a year old (we can only guess at his age, we 
>found him on the side of the road). Anyway lately he seems to be getting 
>really thin, his sides just behind his ribcage are sunken in.  He is a 
>very active cat, he tears around the house all day. He is eating quite
>a bit, actually he eats like a pig. 

 With a young kitten, I would think worms is probably the first thing to
check. I have , however had this happen with an older cat and the cause 
was Hyperthyroidism. We had to put her on a medication to reduce thyroid
production for a couple of months and get her weight up and her heart
rate down (which was the one symptom you didn't mention). Then she had
a complete thyroidectomy (which was just under $300). She did well and
is a nice normal healthy 11 year old cat today.
 
 Obviously, I say drop a stool sample off at a vets and find out if it's
worms.


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From: mlinda@ca.novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Subject: Kitties On Board
Keywords: Drive Or Fly????? 
Reply-To: mlinda@ca.novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Organization: Novell, Inc., San Jose, Ca
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:14:43 GMT

Hi Guys!!!

I'm moving to Austin, TX on or about May 3rd and need some advice.

I *was* going to have my kitties (Thomasina-the-cute and Rio-the-LOUD)
stay at my Dad's until I got settled in my new apartment.  I figured that
he could put them on the plane and they could come home to a nice relaxed
environment.  The problem is....a friend recently told me that the Kennel
Club (or SPCA) reports that the fatality rate is up to 51%!!!!  This does
NOT leave me with a warm fuzzy feeling.

I'm now considering taking them with me in the car (through the dessert).
I am concerned that the ~3 day trip will be hard on them and hell on my
boyfriend, who is allergic to the girls, he can handle them in a apartment,
but I worry that being enclosed with them in the car for 3 days could make
him seriously ill.

Can anyone substantiate the claims of the fatality rate???  I really think
that a 4 hour plane ride would be less stressful for the girls.

HELP!!!!

Also....it may be in the FAQ (which I can't figure out how to access) but
does anyone know of any CHEAP hotel/motels between California and Austin
that will let me bring in the girls if I DO drive with them?

M'Linda
Mom-cat of Thomasina-the-cute and Rio-the-LOUD
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From: brianm@sco.COM (Brian Moffet ext 7605)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How much food should a cat eat?
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 20:25:45 GMT
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.


syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick) writes:

>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Age of Cat |  Weight of   |  Feeds per |   Dry     | Semi-moist | Canned
>           |  Cat in LBS  |    day     |  Food     |    Food    |   Food
>===============================================================================
>ADULT
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Neutered   |5 - 10        |     1      |2 - 2 1/2  | 2 - 3      |   8 1/2
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Umm, what about cats that are over 10 pounds? They do exist, I hope, or 
who knows what I'm being controlled by...

My experience with my cat, 15.5 - 16 pound neutered male, I guess active,
is about 1.5 cups dry food per day.  He gets as much as he wants, and 
that's about what he eats.

He is also a completely indoor cat, which I suppose would make a difference.

Just another piece of data... (just another datum?)

brian moffet
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From: joe@cci632.cci.com (Joe DiBenedetto)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Help needed (My kitten is number twoing it behind the TV
Keywords: HELP !!!!!!!!
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:33:31 GMT
Organization: Computer Consoles Incorporated


Could someone give me some advise to help stop making my Siamese
Kitten from pooing behind the TV and behind some doors. Also he is
number oneing it once in a while too. I have new carpeting and I need
someones advise soon. Also help on cleaning up the soiled areas.


Thanks

Joe DiBenedetto
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: csm1@cec2.wustl.edu (Christopher Scott Macri)
Subject: Ideas for Kitty in Car?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:48:55 GMT

Hi,

I just got a two month old male, J.J. and plan to take it back home
with me when school ends. Problem is my home is NYC and Im in St. Louis.

Any ideas on keeping J.J. quiet for a 17hr car ride?

Thanks,
Chris Macri

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: mlinda@novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Subject: Re: Cleo
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:04:25 GMT


I'm SOOOOOOO sorry..

M'Linda

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From: walrus@bessel.umd.edu (Grig Larson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Oh dear...
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:19:19 GMT
Organization: Punk Walrus Enterprises, Inc.

My cat is incredibly stupid. Nothing can be done about it.
 
I love Mikey, and he is as healthy as can be, but god didn't give him the common
sense he gave a goose.
 
He always seems to be under a falling object.
Pookie beats him up.
He is afraid of many things, including fish.
He hangs aroud doors that open suddenly.
He is afraid of metal things.
He always gets in you lap and seconds later, you have to get up for some reason.
He should have that "whamp whamp waaaaa...." music wherever he goes.
 
I feel sorry for him. Luckly, ignorance is bliss for him.
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jhoskins@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (James M Hoskins)
Subject: Cat Thoughts
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 17:36:09 GMT

I get very inquisitive looks from my cat as I scramble around in the morning 
getting ready to go to work.  What is the cat thinking?  After careful 
consideration I have concluded that the kitty (always poised by the front door 
when I open it in the evening) thinks I have been outside all day long hunting 
food for it.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dwhitney@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: re:cat doors
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:37:58 GMT

Here's our solution to a pet door.  I have a Johnson pet door small size
installed in a piece of plywood that fits our windows.  Because the most
inconspicuous window  is about 5 feet above ground in the back of the house
I've built a platform with a long board leading up to it.-- 
Deb Whitney
As soon as the weather gets really cold in the fall I put the pet door in
and when it's warm enough in the spring I take it out.  This is to avoid
coming home to "PRESENTS."  

We live on the end of a short, dead end street and have 50 acres of woods
behind our house so all the cats are IO cats. With the door in place
we don't have to worry about storms catching them unawares and we've never
had another cat try to come in that way.
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: CATS HOME ALONE WHILE I TRAVEL: ADVICE?
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:30:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: zia.1992Apr9.163045.3566
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

In article <1992Apr9.045420.20674@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> ah881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joyce Brabner) writes:
>
>I have to take a 4-5 day trip out of town, and
>have no one who can house-sit, and check on my
>two young cats (less than a year old).  

We left our two girls alone and indoors for a 3-day weekend not long ago.
They managed fine. They are indoor/outdoor cats, so they were bored by the
time we came home, but otherwise they were fine.

The only thing I'd be careful of is the business about food. Normally our cats
get fed twice a day with a fixed amount. We left one of those tall tubes with 
a bowl at the bottom, measured out 3 days' worth plus a bit extra in case we  
were late, and left a similar container full of water (plus they had the toilet
bowls :-) ). 

When we got back, after only 2.5 days, almost all the food was gone and two 
little bowling balls greeted us at the door :-).

I don't think it would have hurt them at all to have gone without any food for 
another day. Over the next week we reduced their portions until they got back 
to normal. All I'm trying to say is that cats which aren't normally free-fed 
may have a field day. But I don't think it will do them any harm. 
-- 
Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
From: dc30+@andrew.cmu.edu (Deborah Nina Cherry)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Bathing Cats (by accident)
Date: 16 Apr 92 06:15:31 GMT
	<1992Apr7.185028.20167@tc.fluke.COM>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Once, years ago when I was babysitting for a 5 year old girl, as I was
undressing her for her bath, I had the tub filling up in the bathroom.
All of a sudden, I hear a splash and THUD. I ran out of the bedroom just
in time to see Harry (Harriet, a rather fat cat) streaking out of the
bathroom sopping wet. Apparently, she often jumped into the tub to drink
from the slightly leaky faucet, and got a very big surprise this time! I
then went running around the house with a towel, trying to catch her
before she got the furniture wet, and especially before she found her
way to the litter box!

(no cat yet, hopefully adopting a kitten on Tues....),
Debbie Cherry
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA

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From: lipkin@acuson.com (Betty Lipkin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: White cats and yellowing fur
Date: 16 Apr 92 15:53:11 GMT
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California

ambar@CYGNUS.COM (Jean Marie Diaz) writes:

>   From article <kdnmilu00Uh_Q1JW8v@andrew.cmu.edu>, by sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner):
>   > same thing today.  My cat brown tabby w/ white belly and paws has a
>   > yellow tinge, especially in the more difficult to groom areas (under his
>If you cat is eating food (particularly wet food) with any extra
>coloring added, it's quite likely that he's painting his coat with those
>colorings.  (You know how they love to groom themselves right after

IMHO (and from my memory of showing a blue-eyed white
household pet) the cats own saliva was the culprit for
changing the 'top' of the cats fur...

the more she washed the yellower the tips of her fur got.
(yes, english is my first language, sometimes I just get too
lazy to rethink sentences before I hit the return key).

betty
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From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: PEDIGREES
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:54:48 GMT

In <1992Apr12.195143.13971@pony.Ingres.COM> jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger) writes:

>Marla Belzowski writes:
>> look at local humane shelters to see what irresponsible breeding is.

>True, you'll find plenty of purebreds there.

Marla has never said that being purebred meant being ipso facto
"responsibly bred."  There are just as many irresponsible breeders of
purebred as randombred animals.  The solution must lie with penalizing
irresponsible *breeders*.

*ANY* breeder who gives no thought to what they're doing is irresponsible.

An interesting possible by-product of only responsible breeding ever
occuring is that every animal becomes purebred, depending on how you
define purebred.

Jon, I don't ordinarily flame, certainly not in this group, but I
found your comment on the purebreds extraordinarily snide.  It implies
that all purebred breeders are irresponsible, it implied that Marla
said that purebreeds were never irresponsibly bred, and it really
ticked me off.

--Cindy
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I post the rec.pets.cats FAQ (in two parts) at the beginning of every month.
To get the FAQ: use anonymous ftp to pit-manager.mit.edu and look under
/pub/usenet/news.answers/cats-faq/* (part1, part2), or send email to
mail-server@pit-manager.mit.edu with "send usenet/news.answers/cats-faq/part1"
in the subject line, and a second email message for part2.  Send contributions
and suggestions to me; send questions not covered in FAQ to the newsgroup.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re:  Hill's Science Diet - good idea?
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:09:44 GMT

In article <44694@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's)) writes:
>I do know at least
>one person that eats dog or cat food just because he LIKES it (UGGGHH!).

When I was a kid I used to eat Milk-Bones at our neighbour's house (they had
a dog, we had no pets) from time to time. They actually were not at all bad.
Haven't had one in a long time, though.
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From: sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Quaking cats
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:11:16 GMT
Organization: University Libraries - Technical Service, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I did not have my cat so I have no personal experience with pets being
able to detect quakes, although I did hear alot of stories (from friends
and the news) after the earthquake that their animals acted out of
sorts.  Most of them described their pets as ansy, having nervous
energy.  But of couse, hind sight is 20/20 and being able to tell the
difference when your pet is acting funny because of a pending earthquake
or just being weird would be a challange.

Susan
From: saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's))
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: PEDIGREES
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:24:27 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In article <3604@novavax.UUCP> brookshe@novavax.UUCP (Leighton A. Brooks) writes:
>
>	CAN ANYONE PROVIDE ME WITH INFORMATION ON WHERE
>	TO GO AND WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN SELECTING A PEDIGREE.
>	I AM INTERESTED IN BREEDING.  ARE THERE ANY BOOKS
>	AVAILABLE OR SUCH...  ANY ASSISSTANCE WILL BE MOST
>	APPRECIATED.
>
>

I can't resist.  Do you want that on computer paper or parchment?

:)

I would really suggest you do some research at your local library in the 636.3
area of the dewy decimal system.  I would also suggest you look at the
local humane shelters to see what irresponsible breeding is.  I would
then find a good breeder of the breed you are looking at and ask for
EVERYTHING that should be done to be a responsible breeder.  If you
aren't willing to go the extra mile to make sure you are being a responsible
breeder, I suggest that you take up something else.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ah881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joyce Brabner)
Subject: Re: What's Michael?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 17:13:54 GMT


Just happened to spot your posting about WHAT'S MICHAEL, a series
of Japanese comics about cats, now translated into English by a
U.S. publisher-- Eclipse Books.  I'm a comic book writer/editor,
who has done some work for Eclipse.  You can get the books by mail.
Write to Eclipse Books/P.O. Box 1099/Forestville, CA 95436.  They
also take credit card orders @ 1-800-468-6828.

For the dog in your life (with ample reference to cats), try a
book by Frank Stack, called DORMAN'S DOGGY.  It's published by
a company called Kitchen Sink.  Suffice it to say that Dorman's
doggy is a neurotic poodle, with a tragic crush on the much smarter
Dorman family cat.  The doggy spends a lot of time trying to determine
the will of "the mighty ones".  That's us.

A good book store can also order both of these paperback comic books 
for you, since they are still in print.
-- 




Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: edalton@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elizabeth M Dalton)
Subject: Re: silly cats
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:21:50 GMT

Actually, I always thought siamese would stick out anywhere... until I lived in a yard where there was no grass, only sand... turns out they just look like a   shady patch! I suppose they evolved in some sandy clime... consider the 
short fur...

on another topic, I know people who can tolerate most short-haired cats but
not siamese (allergy wise, I mean) and I have one friend in vet school who's
primarily allergic to cats with orange in their fur.

Elizabeth Dalton, OSU
From: amo@cbnews.cb.att.com (arlene.m.osborne)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help my cat is skinny!
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:13:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr14.185718.2082@clpd.kodak.com>, young@sasquatch.serum.kodak.com (Rich Young (x37176)) writes:
> In article <1992Apr14.125448.20072@watserv1.waterloo.edu> khare@watserv1.waterloo.edu (Kathy Hare - DCS) writes:
> >I'm wondering if anyone has any ideas that would help me.  I have a male
> >unneuter tabby who is about a year old (we can only guess at his age, we 
> >found him on the side of the road). Anyway lately he seems to be getting 
> >really thin, his sides just behind his ribcage are sunken in.  He is a 
> >very active cat, he tears around the house all day. He is eating quite
> >a bit, actually he eats like a pig. We feed him about 3/4 cup of food 
> >in the morning and if he finishes his and can't wait till dinner he 
> >starts on the dogs food.  What I'm wondering is does he have worms, is
> >he just really active or maybe growing again, or is his metabelism (sp)
> >really high.  Has anyone else ever had this happen to there kitty? 
> >Any help would be appreciated.
> >Thanks Kathy
> >
> 
> 
> 	Check for worms, especially tapeworms.  Ascarids (roundworms) are
> 	spaghetti-like white-ish things of various lengths in the stool and
> 	may or may not be moving right after defecation, or they may not be
> 	visible at all.  Hookworms are practically impossible to see unless
> 	you KNOW what you're looking for.  Tapeworms shed egg cases which look
> 	like pieces of rice (that may be moving) in the stool.  My guess
> 	would be tapeworms, but IT IS ONLY A GUESS!!!!  Take a fresh stool
> 	sample (from your cat, of course) to your friendly vet and let
> 	him/her give you "the straight poop" (pun definitely intended).

Tapeworms   DO NOT show up in a stool sample!  I had two animals that
got them and I took a sample to my regular vet who tested it and said
they were fine.  Mortified, and knowing they had some kind of worms,
I went to another vet with another sample.  She asked if what I was seeing 
was rice-looking eggs, and tossed the samples saying they wouldn't show
anything.  She gave me a single pill for each animal (the pill makes
the parasite become digestable by the animal!), and poof, no more
tapeworms!
From: vandykt@kepler.ME.ORST.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help needed (My kitten is number twoing it behind the TV
Keywords: HELP !!!!!!!!
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:06:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: talon.1992Apr13.210624.25329
Organization: Oregon State University

In article <1992Apr13.163331.25713@cci632.cci.com> joe@cci632.cci.com (Joe DiBenedetto) writes:
>
>Could someone give me some advise to help stop making my Siamese
>Kitten from pooing behind the TV and behind some doors. Also he is
>number oneing it once in a while too. I have new carpeting and I need
>someones advise soon. Also help on cleaning up the soiled areas.
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Joe DiBenedetto

If the kitten has a favorite place (like behind your TV), try placing
a litter box behind the TV and if there's any number two there, put
that in the litter box then show the litter box to the kitten.  ie.
Put the kitten in the box.  With any luck, your kitten will begin to
use the litter box and eventually prefer that over the floor.  After
a couple days, you should be able to move the litter box somewhere else,
just be sure to show the kitten where you moved it to.

--Traig
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: umevan13@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Tracey L. Evans)
Subject: Re:cat..#2 it behind t.v.
Keywords: cat number two tv
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 05:27:43 GMT


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Distribution: world
Subject: Re:cat..#2 it behind t.v.
Keywords: cat number two tv

My mother has found it very effective to put a saucer of pepper in places
where you don't want your cat to "go"...cats do not seem to enjoy the
smell of pepper.  Also, we found it useful to, whenever we saw the cat 
(then it was a kitten) about to "go" to grab him and bring him to his 
litter box, rewarding him for doing so.  

Hope this helps...and good luck!!

Tracey <umevan13@ccu.UManitoba.CA>
From: carvalho@mtechca.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Crypto Infected Cat (SanDiego)
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:40:46 GMT
Organization: MAINTECH, A division of Volt Delta Resources, Inc. Orange, CA

I've got an owner (Effi). He's developed a grown in his nose and a terrible
sneeze response. The vet suspects Crypto Cococci(spelling?) or a type of tumor.
He's done a biopsy and a culture. I'me trying to find out more info. I've got
four other owners and I don't want to lose them.
--joe
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From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Loner Kitty
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:34:34 GMT
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA

In article <1992Apr6.224602.25091@tellab5.tellabs.com> pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver) writes:
>2. I accomplished this by making several attempts at keeping her off
>   the top of the cabinets.  Friday morning I came up with the
>   solution, and she hasn't been up there since.  She is also
>   spending more time with me, and has been more affectionate lately.

What was the solution?

-Steve- Owned by the Calvin and Hobbes Crew.