From: mitton@dave.enet.dec.com (Dave Mitton)
Subject: Re: Other 1830 questions
Reply-To: mitton@dave.enet.dec.com (Dave Mitton)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Littleton MA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:11:18 GMT


In article <1992Aug16.183403.5653@uwm.edu>, bruno@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Bruno Wolff III) writes:
>Newsgroups: rec.games.board
>From: bruno@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Bruno Wolff III)
>Subject: Other 1830 questions
>Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 18:34:03 GMT
>
>What happens in the NYC floats in the middle of an operating round due to
>someone exchanging the M&H for a share of the NYC?
>We have decided to just go buy whether the NYC's turn has been passed yet this
>operating round (since it will have a marker out if there is 50% outstanding).

	Wow! another good one.
	The rules say that when a Corporation is "floated" that it will begin
operation in the next Operating Round.  I would interpret that to mean
the next sequence starting from the privates or highest. (there are some
slippery concepts (in my opinion) as to whether an Operating Round is one
time through the companies or the series of turns in the later game)


>If you already own two trains can you trade one in for a diesle?
>We are playing this as OK, since you are losing one as you are buying the
>diesle.

	Sure, why not.  Even with Diesels you can own two trains.
I had a corporation with two Diesels in one game.

>There doesn't seem to be any rules for how to carry out the bidding for private
>companies. We have decided to go in a clockwise order amoung the people
>involved. Each person is allowed to raise the bid or pass. Passing does not
>exclude you from reentering the bidding. If it gets passed around to the
>person with the highest bid he gets the line for that price. Is this what
>other people do?

	The way I play is to offer the lowest bidder the option to do
one of: Raise, or Drop Out.  Sort of like Poker only "Calling" is not
an option.  I think a Pass option only slows the Auction down.


>If a player has to correct his stock ownership because a companies marker
>has moved out of a colored area of the stock price board since the last
>operating round how does he have to correct it?
>We are playing that he must make at least one sell of an excess share each
>turn of the stock round until his stock holding is legal. The player may
>only purchase stock if is not affected by the limit that has been exceeded.

	Rule 10.0 Limit of Stock Holding", para 2
"The maximum number of certificates a play may hold altogether (stock
certificates and Private Company certificates) is given in Table 3.
If a player acquires more than the regulation number (as result of losing a
presidency) the situation must be corrected in his or her next turn of the
Stock Round."

	a similar statement shows up in Rule 13.0 para 5.
You should not sell off at one-per-turn.  You must correct your holding within
your next Stock Round turn.  Remember that you can (and perhaps must) sell
more than one share per turn (subject to other limitations, see Rule 12.0)

>When forced to sell stock to help a corporation purchase a train are there
>any specfic restrictions on how it has to be done (within the stated rules)?

	Yup!  Read Rule 24.0 completely.

>We don't allow a player to sell more stock once he has raised enough to
>buy the train, but until that point he is free to sell shares in any order.

        That is correct. He is only allowed to sell sufficent stock to 
purchase a train.  Once that goal is met, this exception to Operating Round
procedure is over.  He is allowed to sell stock in any manner he wishes
(subject to the the constraints of R24.0, numbers 3&4).  But once he raises the
cash, that's it.  

        In other words, he can sell one-at-a-time, losing the decrement per
sale/per share, and he doesn't have to sell the optimal combination. In fact
the rules hint that he could purposely bankrupt himself by selling inoptimally. 
But #3 prevents a sale that would cause the Corporation of concern to change
president, or violate the limits of Rule 12.0.

        Dave.