HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bkwilli@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Bryan Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: GVP multi-port card
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:28:57 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond

OK, well, I'm not representing GVP, but according to Amazing Computing, Aug 92,
it has 2 serial + parallel, 16 byte FIFO. I'm guessing 16552 UART. 
Optional MIDI box allows 2 complete 16 channel MIDI-faces. Each MIDI bus has
5-pin DINS, 1 in, 3 out, 1 thru. 
 
There is no statement of the bps rate it is capable of. Depends on the clock 
chosen....
(which is? GVP only knows)
From: kentd@FtCollins.NCR.com (Kent Dalton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Most excellent 2.04 (was @$#^@$%# 2.04!)
Date: 27 Jul 92 13:56:44 GMT
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: prall968@Armstrong.EDU's message of 24 Jul 92 02:24:07 GMT


>>>>> On 24 Jul 92 02:24:07 GMT, prall968@Armstrong.EDU said:

gene>  Ok Ok Ok.. I have a gripe here... I am a loyal Amiga user, I have
gene> owned an amiga since 1987 when I bout my friends 1000. Well I
gene> still have and use that 1000. Since then I have rescued a couple
gene> more 1000s from a unduely death in the bottom of a dumpster.

I will be happy to purchase one of your used A1000's for the price it
would cost you to purchase a 2.04 upgrade kit.

gene>  Well when I go around and try to ftp some GOOD software all I see is:
gene> KS 2.0 required...

Assuming you need these utilities, that implies you need 2.04 to do what
you want with your machine...

Which, in turn, implies this part of your statment:

gene> ....and why should I when 1.3 works JUUUUUST fine for me.

is wrong, since 1.3 is no longer capable of providing the system software
resources required to support the applications you wish to run.

gene> So then why is all this stuff now out for 2.0.. Whatever happened
gene> to downward compatibility?

Downward compatibility in this case (and most other cases, as well)
would be *stupid*.  2.04 provides developer's with new features and
libraries not available in the previous OS and it is readily available
for all currently produced Amigas. For applications which make heavy use
of 2.04's added functionality, making them 1.3 compatible is neither
cost/time-effective nor worthwhile.

Not using those new features because some users refuse to upgrade or
have machines so outdated and unsupported they can't run the new OS,
limits what the developer can implement to the most obsolete common
denominator. The result will be inferior software when compared to
competing products (which do make use of the new functionality).

You can't expect the computer industry in general, or Commodore in
specific, to stand still just because you can't afford to or do not wish
to run. If you choose not to keep up with new developments because you
are happy with your current equipment, that's fine, but you have no one
to blame but yourself when you start to feel left behind.


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Wait..  is this a FUN THING or the END of LIFE in Petticoat Junction??
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: alb@ais.org (Alan Brushaber)
Subject: Re: Supra Fax Modem, The Company And Their Services
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:29:27 GMT

In article <Bs7w5s.JGr@ais.org> alb@ais.org (Alan Brushaber) writes:
>
>
>   Funny you should post your complaint. I had a 2400 Modem of theirs
>go after just a couple months. I gave up calling (line always busy) and
>sent a polite letter with a SASE, phone #'s, Fax #, etc. That was a few
>weeks ago - maybe too soon to tell, but what does it take to acknowledge
>an inquiry? Why are the lines always busy? They selling bad stuff?
>Warranty worthless? Anyone out there from Supra?
>
>
     Well, I should have been a little more patient. When I got
     home tonight there was my SASE with a letter from Supra.
     I don't know what kind of service to expect from here on, but
     sending a letter in lieu of fighting the busy signals did get
     return instructions.

   Al


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Re: @$#^@$%# 2.04!
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:22:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.155513.13098@schaefer.math.wisc.edu> mueller@schaefer.UUCP (Carl Mueller) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.145016.29282@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
>>dej@qpoint.ocunix.on.ca (David Jones) writes:
>>
>>>In article <mwm.1azt@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us> mwm@contessa.palo-alto.ca.us (Mike Meyer) writes:
>>>>Just out of curiosity, *are* there any "2.0-only" major applications
>>>>yet? The closest I've seen are some applications (I wouldn't call any
>>
>>>Term
>>>Maple V
>>
>>And Final Copy, essentially.  I could never get it to work right under 1.3.
>>(Maybe the latest release does - I tried an earlier one back when I had
>>1.3...  It'd crash here and there. )

  Send in your registration card and they'll send you a FREE upgrade
  by return post.
>
>I've got WB1.3 (1.2 ROMS) and have not had any trouble with Final Copy -- I use
>it often and get no crashes at all.  It works great.  (I do have the latest
>version, but I don't recall having any trouble with the original version ...
>though they upgraded it so fast I may not have had time.)

  My original FC did crash every so often, but everything had been fixed
  in the new upgrade (1.3.2) and it hasn't crashed at all.
>
>Carl Mueller (mueller@math.wisc.edu)


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: andsk@sabrina.dei.unipd.it (Andrea Rafreider 307318/il)
Subject: KICKSTART 2.0 PROBLEM
Organization: D.E.I. Universita' di Padova, Italia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:38:47 GMT


I've recently bought 2.0 ROMS ( or should I say EPROMS ) for my lovely A500 .
I have noticed a problem in booting disks with INTEFERON boot block.. ( You
know that one wich asks you before booting if you want your extra memory on,
ecs 60 HZ etc. )
When I boot such disks I always get a software error! (No problems with other
bootblocks ..)

Did you experience similar problems with this INTERFERON ?
(I have an A500 REV 6A 2.5 MB)

I have obviously no problems with kickstart 1.3 .

Could someone please help me ?

   Thanks in advance

                                  Andrea Rafreider.
From: DennyA@cup.portal.com (Denny Lee Atkin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Re: 386BB and 2630
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 19:53:17 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <2431@bsu-cs.bsu.edu>

>In article <63021@cup.portal.com> DennyA@cup.portal.com (Denny Lee Atkin) writ
e
>s:
>>Pat,
>>
>>Unfortunately, the 4MB on the 2630 is configured in your 8MB of RAM
>>expansion room. With a 4MB 2630 and the Bridgeboard, you'll only be
>>able to add 2MB of 16-bit RAM.
>>
>>Denny Atkin                | dennya@cup.portal.com          | "No matter wher
e
>
>Say WHAT???  I thought the whole 'beauty' of the 2620/2630 accelerator boards
>was the fact that their *32bit* ram was 'outside' of the standard Amiga
>autoconfig ram space, and thus with a BB, you could have 6Meg of 16Bit
>ram in the 'standard' autoconfig address [+ 1Meg of chip / 2Meg of chip if
>you have MegaChip/a 3000 for a total of 7/8Meg] and however much 32bit
>ram that was supported by the board [like the 112 meg that you can stuff
>on the DKB memory board for the 2630card] thus, making the BB system much
>more viable/useable...
>
>Can anybody [Dave Haynie you 'listening' ?] support this/refute this please!?
>
>-dcp / a very confused SOON to be owner of a 2000 + BB that was hoping to have
>       more than 7/8Meg of ram in his machine...

David,

You can add RAM in the 32-bit address space; you have to use a RAM
add-on that plugs into the expansion connector on the 2630. The 4MB
that plugs directly onto the 2630 goes in regular Zorro II space; if
you add an add-on RAM board to the 2630 card (currently DKB is the
only company that makes one), you can go up to something like 64MB (or
was it 118MB?).

Many third-party accelerators allow >8MB of RAM to be added right on
the 030 board. The limitation above applies only to the 2630. 

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Editor                     | Portal, GEnie, and BIX: dennya | you go, there you
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---------------=====<<<<< YES! COMPUTE _DOES_ COVER THE AMIGA! >>>>>=====------
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Monday, 27 Jul 1992 11:48:10 EDT
From: <LEEK@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: IBM Keyboard Hack???

In article <4RwJoB2w165w@hogbbs.scol.pa.us>, toddo@hogbbs.scol.pa.us (Todd
Oberly) says:
>
>Here's another hardware project question.  I've heard of a tiny device
>that allows the use of an IBM style keyboard on an Amiga 2000....             e
>
   [ option #1 deleted as I don't read any Amiga rags. ]

>              2)  Are there plans to build one of these adapters for a few
>                  dollars instead?  I'd prefer to just solder something
>                  together quickly so we can use the system now instead
>                  of when we can afford a new or used Amiga keyboard.

Yeap...  There was a file on the old ab20 hardware directory that have
a IBM keyboard adaptor project.  I built it for a friend of mine for
his A500 motherboard.  It should be in the WU site and other sites that
carrys the old ab20 stuff.  The interface works with IBM PC & AT
keyboards.  There was a small bug for the PC/XT routine though.

The author is Eric Rudolph.  The total cost for the parts come to $18 or
so minus box and breadboard.  The following prices might be a bit out of
date, you might want to contact the author first.

Circuit board alone: 5$
Telephone connector: 1.50$      (That's for a 1000)
Whole thing minus case:25$ plus shipping

Full documentation: 1$ plus postage.
Email address: rudolpe@jacobs.cs.orst.edu
Phone # 503-745-7466 (Oregon)

>Todd Oberly

K. C. Lee
Elec. Eng. Grad. Student
From: alan@uts.amdahl.com (Alan Bomberger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: CD-ROM drive CDR-37
Summary: Anyone have experience with NEC CDR-37
Keywords: CDROM
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:41:40 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

This drive seems pretty inexpensive (~400).  I
wonder if there is an Amiga track record or must
I chance it.  Lots of ads in Mac Mags.  Thanks
Sorry if this kind of thing is FAQ and there is
a post with all the answers.  Point me there if so.
From: paws@spam.cray.com (Daniel Baehr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Found out what 8 Flashes mean...
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:45:28 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.


In article <sTZLoB2w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>, troy@bluemoon.rn.com (Troy Fridley) writes:
> paws@spam.cray.com (Daniel Baehr) writes:
> 
> > 
> >    8 flashes on a ST296N means that the drive couldn't load the ram code
> >  from the media, eg. the platter.  Looks like I've got a *REAL BAD* bad
> >  spot on the drive.  Or the electronics could be messed up also.  We'll
> >  have to see.
> > 
> >       Daniel Baehr 
> 
> Hmmm... I wondered what that ment!  I just sent my Segate in here a couple 
> of months ago, they sent it back to me saying that There was nothing wrong 
> with it, within 20 hours of putting the drive back on the system, it 
> crashed!  Ya some service department, it only took them 6 weeks to turn 
> around the drive and tell me it wasn't broken when it was!
>  
>                         Troy
> 
>   Does one actually need a brain to think?  Obviously Not!
>  
>  UUCP: Troy@Bluemoon.uucp
> 

     Huh?  WHERE is "in here'?  Tell me so I can avoid them.

   I have looked through the Computer Shopper and have found about 6 places
 that fix drives.  I am going to buy a new one but I'm also going to get the
 ST296N fixed.  Maybe around turkey time.  What the hay...$150 is worth it.


    Daniel Baehr
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: ahansfor@coal.wpi.edu (Andrew L. Hansford)
Subject: Re: @$#^@$%# 2.04!
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
	<1992Jul30.060025.10217@ecsvax.uncecs.edu>
	<1992Jul30.202533.24284@Armstrong.EDU>
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:11:06 GMT

>>>>> On 30 Jul 92 20:25:33 GMT, prall968@Armstrong.EDU said:

 > In article <1992Jul30.060025.10217@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> urjlew@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Rostyk Lewyckyj) writes:

 > Yes exactly... I don't want to hear all about this "Well you can
 > buy a KWICKSTART Board.." I shouldn't need to.. In fact why should
 > I have to BUY the new roms in the first place.. seems if C= wanted
 > to keep happy loyal customers they could offer them out as a good
 > dealer..

I agree Commodore should make the upgrade available for free or at a
nominal cost. (S+H if you get it by mail a $5 charge to cover material
cost and overhead)  Too bad Commodore can't afford that.  But then
there would be no reason to argue for 1.3 compatibility.

 > And too many people here on the net are the WHY should C= support
 > the sickly spindly ole 1000 types.. WHY? Because some of us cannot
 > upgrade to a 2000 or 3000. We have sunk hundred if not thousands
 > into our machines and we want to be able to use this machine... Too
 > many have the 'Well I own a 2000/3000/2500.. why should I bother'
 > type of mentality and its that type that make more and more amiga
 > users drop out.. Here locally I have seen 3 amiga 500 users drop out
 > and buy clones because of a lack of support locally and a general I
 > don't care attitude from C= down to other users...

I'm sorry.  Somewhere you have to break with the past.  C= has lost
your business either because you can't upgrade or you don't want to
buy something else from them.  Either way it really doesn't matter.
You are about to be joined by a large group of 500 owners on the "No
longer supported" pile (perhaps).


-- Andrew Hansford
   ahansfor@wpi.wpi.edu
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.hardware:13386 comp.sys.amiga.misc:11990
From: bachmann@remus.rutgers.edu (Dan Bachmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: DKB is excellent
Keywords: DKB 2632 praise
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:51:05 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


DKB is world class/first class 
 
		I friend of mine purchased the DKB2632 board (A2630
RAM
expander) from DKB. To make a long story short, we could not get
it to work.
	We called DKB technical support and sent the 2632 back to
them along with a copy of the systems s:startup-sequence and
devs:mountlist (sent via Internet->CompuServe)... they checked it
out and sent it back that same day - so there was only 2 days
downtime!
	It turned out that the problem was that the ROMs in the A2091
SCSI hard drive controller were out of date (I have no idea why
this would affect the 2632). DKB quickly sent out new ROMs to us
and the machine has worked fine since (and is a bit faster I might
add).
	From my experiences DKB's products	and support are first
class in every way. I am pleased to say that DKB is a name you can
trust.
						thank you DKB
						Daniel Bachmann
						bachmann@remus.rutgers.edu
From: martinh@cac.washington.edu (Martin Hunt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Can ArcNet use Ethernet network? Please HELP!
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:19:28 GMT
Organization: UW Networks and Distributed Computing

In article <1992Jul31.102235.57716@cc.usu.edu> slmt9@cc.usu.edu (Joshua Dinerstein) writes:
>
>	Hi all,
>
>	I have a quesion of LAN type cards for the Amiga. How do Arcnet and
>Ethernet compare? Can you use an Arcnet card on the ethernet network? 

No. They are totally different.  Hooking an Arcnet card to an ethernet
would probably bring the entire net down.

>
>	The reason that I ask is that I can get an Arcnet card fairly cheap and
>would like too if I can use it as part of the network here on campus.

Spend a few extra bucks and get an ethernet card.

Martin



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Networks and Distributed Computing     University of Washington
From: jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A1000 Newbie makes some questions
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:32:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: fripp.1992Jul29.183234.12272
Reply-To: jh@cadre.com
Organization: Cadre Technologies Inc.

In article 15897@porthos.cc.bellcore.com, papo@pyuxf.uucp (25241-anaya) writes:
>I started to read this group and you talked 'bout the
>"Rejuvenator(sp)" board for $500 bucks.  Also about a lot of hack's that
>a common engineer can do with a solder and a bunch of chips and dips.
>
>So these are my questions:
>
>1.  In a nutshell, what upgrades can be done with the A1000??
>

There are plenty of upgrades that can be made.  There are a couple of boards
that will allow you to install ROM chips in the system, eliminating the need
for KickStart disks.  There are some accellerators out there, but they may be
hard to find (see my final comments below).

>4.  If the peripherals that are sold for the 500 are also used in the
>1000, what things I should be looking for??
>

The 500 peripherals don't exactly work on a 1000, although they can be easily
hacked to work.  On my particular system I have an Insider II board which gives
me an additional 1.5 MB of RAM, a MicroBotics external RAM interface adding 
another 2MB, and a Supra SCSI interface which controlls my 2 hard drives.  In
addition, I've got WB2.04 running on the system.  It's all pretty stable, and
there isn't much I can't do with it.

>
>I'm planning to upgrade my machine in the near future so I can do any useful
>programming with it.  I'll appreciate any response and thanks in advance.
>

The big problems are that there aren't many people making 1000 peripherals 
anymore, so you are generally limited to used equipment (pretty readily
available here on the net!).  Other options include the Rejuvenator or 
Phoenix boards, which essentially turn the 1000 into a 2000, with some
expansion slots and the ECS (enhanced chip set), which won't run on a stock
1000.  Generally, though, the price of upgrading a 1000 in this manner makes
buying a 2000 a more practical solution.

I'd recommend getting a hard drive and RAM expansion used, and live with
the rest of the system limitations.
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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: commodore fights back
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 19:30:16 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Actions speak louder than words.
From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: 2620 rev.# & ad 2.04?
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:35:31 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Distribution: comp
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Jul27.1108.18906@dosgate> "mark woollard" <mark.woollard@canrem.com> writes:
>I have a 2620 that I bought about 2 and a half years ago.  I understand
>that older boards need some mysterious "tweeking" in addition to new
>ROMS to work under AD2.04.  I plan to upgrade to 2.04 soon.

>Does anyone (perhaps Dave Haynie) know the critical revision number
>before which this "tweeking" is required.

There has only ever been one revision of the A2620, at least to my knowledge (it
was my board, so hopefully I would know about this, but I have been surprised
before).  I have never had the opportunity to examine an A2620 that failed to 
run 2.0 with Revsion 6 or later EPROMS.  My guess is that a small number of them
have some kind of defective part that wasn't much of an issue until now.  The
boards we have tried here, including some original pre-production boards, all 
work.

-- 
Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      BIX: hazy
	"Work like a horse, drink like a fish"	- Psychefunkapus
From: swinokur@cellar.org (Steve Winokur)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Intermittent df0: floppy drive
Date: 17 Jul 92 19:28:30 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

dueker@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (The Code Slinger) writes:

> This is odd.  Last night while I was doing some work on my A1000, I heard
> a small rattling sound.  Turned out to be my df0: (internal) floppy
> drive.  I was not accessing the drive, nor was anything running at that
> time that would access it (it's a combined Kickstart/Workbench disk).
> 

Sounds like my 1000.  A couple years ago, it would get up to temperature,
and then, the drive would make HORRIBLE noises.  Kinda like a loud
scree-clunk.  Anyway, it wouldn't access data real well, either.  I opened
the case up, and it worked fine.  I guess it just wanted some more
ventilation.  I seem to recall that I blew the acumulated dust-bunnies out
of the mechanism too :).

-steve


.............................................................................
          tredysvr!cellar!swinokur -or- swinokur@cellar.uucp -or-
                          GEnie: S.WINOKUR  -or-
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From: Aurelius@cup.portal.com (Mark Christian Barnes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: TrumpCard/ST157N problem
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 14:53:13 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Todd Petit writes:

| I have a Trumpcard 500 with TCUtils 2.0F--but with 1.2 ROMs (though I hope
| to be going to 2.04 within 2-3 weeks). I also have intermittent R/W error
| on my hard disk that usually go away by hitting retry. I don't know why but
| it seems that the 2.04 ROMs are NOT the problem since I don't have them.
| TCUtils 2 *may* be the problem, but I doubt that too. I used to have an
| ST157N, but now have an ST157N-1. The first drive with TCUtils 2.0F NEVER
| had R/W errors--but it died of sticktion and was replaced by the ST157N-1.
| That is when I started having the R/W errors. You seem not to have had them
| until you reformatted. Don't ask me what all of this means...I just thought

 I've been using a TCPro v4.0 ROM and TCUtils v2.0 for almost 2 years and
also experienced these "soft" R/W errors. I found that if I turned off
all caching options ( no read or write cache) in TCUtils these errors
stopped. This lead me to believe the error was with the TrumpCard software.

 I asked IVS for an upgrade last November and they promised to send it
to me. I have never received the upgrade (grumble) , but have not had
any problems with the TCPro since turning off the R/W caches. When I
upgrade to KickStart v2.04 I believe I will *have* to get a TC ROM
upgrade, from what I've read on the net.

				Aurelius@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware