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From: rached@sample.eng.ohio-state.edu (Rached Zantout)
Subject: Re: Is SEX work or pleasure (joke)
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:56:20 GMT

If there is anything good I learned from USA is to distinghish jokes from racist
remarks.
Unfortunately, this network does not have the mechanism to prevent such racist
remarks.
I am sure if this joke was about a Jew or a black man the one who told it will be
prosecuted.

Arabs are not all lazy, money dripping bums. Pakistanis and Indians are not at
all cheap labor to be moked of. If the condition of living in their coutries are
forcing them to accept low payind and humiliating jobs in the Gulf, We should not
add to that aggravation by making jokes of such dedicated and hardworking people.

Some of those pakistanis and Indians have built Nuclear Reactors and are working
for the benefit of their countries and bretheren (Muslims or Hindus or what have
you). They far more better than some racist bum like the original poster who sits
there and transmits filth.

To the original poster,
When you take the trash to the dumpster, you are stuck with some of it. As I see
it you've just dumped a bagfull of garbage on yourself. Good luck in getting
clean.


rached
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabil@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Nabil Idriss)
Subject: Re: haha
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 13:22:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.011135.8830@math.ucla.edu> ashamam@oak.math.ucla.edu (Asher Shamam) writes:
>Q :what's the difference between a palestinean and a bucket of
>camel shit ?
>
>A : the bucket
>


FUCK YOU ASSHOLE!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: mai@cc.uow.edu.au (Van Dao Mai)
Subject: Arabic fonts for Windows 3.x?
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 03:39:10 GMT

Please help me finding some Windows fonts for Arabic language. Either
True Type or ATM fonts would do the job.

Thanks in advance,

Van Dao MAI
Wollongong University

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Clarification -- Good Will
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:29:34 GMT
Organization: Carleton University


   In my discussion of the Arab situation, I do not say what I
say because I am antipatriotic (although the word 'patriot' is
not defined in my dictionary) or because I hate Arabs or so. I
just say it because it is true. If you ignore some fact or if
you do not know about it, it does not disappear. First step in
doing anything is knowledge and wisdom.

   The situation in all Arab countries is bad, each country is
worse than the others, but each in its own way. No one can say
that his Arab country is an angelic country or that his 
government is not as pathetic as the others. It is not tricky
to know that something has to be done about it. But we can not
do anything if some are still living "layaali l'onsi fee 
vienna" and can not see further than their eyelashes. It is
really saddening that when some fact about some country is
rediscovered the "patriots" think that they are offended and
start shouting like mad. Someone is only offended by the sad
fact if he supports the wrongdoers. Those are the sheep who
always defend this and that rulers. All Arab rulers are brothers,
siblings, sons of the same tramp and poof, they are steering us
this way and that so that we cast our eyes off what they do to
us and busy ourselves in fighting each other. If you are 
patriotic and think that being Jordanian makes you different than 
being Saudi or American, then you are a bigot. If it was because 
of your struggle and achievement you became a Jordanian, I would 
give it a second thought. But why people like to be praised for 
what they did not do? "Wa o*h*dirati l'anfoso shshu*hha." This
patrioticity, "da^ooha fa 'innahaa montinah." You do not love a
place because it lies between those sacred lines that were
drawn by our forefathers' masters, do not you see how lousy a
definition of a homeland it is?

   Before the Ignorance Patrioticity takes its toll on you, do
yourself a favour -- think about it.


** 'Alam takon 'ar*dee wasi^ah?

** Wa anna l'ar*da lillaahi yoorithohaa may yashaa'o min 
^ibaadihi wa l'aaqibato lilmottaqeen.

** "Wa lluuho lilma*thloomi *kayro mo'ayyidee."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Re: Egypt Earthquake Relief funds/efforts (update)
Keywords: Egypt, Earthquake, Relief
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:40:05 GMT


   Since King Hussain of Jordan condoled on Jordan's behalf,
mission accomplished!

   I, myself, wonder if they prosecute the contractors and
builders whose disgraceful building quality caused the loss
of hundreds of lives and homes, or are there too many people
to care about a few hundreds?

** "yA ibnI shO ibnak fI .hayAt iSHo^Ob?"
From: bdm@cs.anu.edu.au (Brendan McKay)
Subject: University of Jordan
Reply-To: bdm@cs.anu.edu.au
Organization: Australian National University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:38:28 GMT

Hello.  I am need of an honest opinion of the quality of computer
science education at the University of Jordan.  I am particularly
interested in hearing from someone who can judge it from the
viewpoint of US or European standards.  Please use email to
bdm@cs.anu.edu.au.   Thanks in advance.

Brendan McKay
Computer Science Department
Australian National University.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: mok@surya.cs.wayne.edu (Mohammad Kanaan)
Subject: Re: Parents vs Children
Summary: let the boy choose
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:21:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.021852.11803@cs.umb.edu>, ahmad@ra.cs.umb.edu (Ahmad Hashem) writes:
> Folks,
> 
> Imagine an Arab parent whose mature son has the choice of doing either
> X or Y.  The parent thinks X is better for the son and will make him
> happier, either in this life or in the one hereafter.  The son, however
> thinks Y is better for him and will make him happier.  Questions:
> 1. What should the son do; X or Y?  What if he knew that doing Y will
>    make the parent miserable and that doing X will make HIM miserable?
> 2. Should the parent insist on the son's doing X?  Or should the parent
>    just trust the son's judgment and be happy with whatever the son
>    thinks is better for him.
> 3. Do you think things would be different if the "son" were a "daughter"?
>    How?
> 4. Do you expect variations in these matters from one class/group to another?
> 5. Do you think a Western parent/son/daughter would handle this
>    differently from Arabs?  How?  Which is "better" in your opinion?
> 
> I'd be interested in any comments.
> 
> Salaam,
> Ahmad


1. If the son is 'mature', the father should be happy to allow
his son choose even if its wrong.            
2. The parent doesn't have to trust the son's judjment but he
should know that this is the only way he will learn.
3. It shouldn't be.
4. Arab parents tend to take descions for their children more
than others.
5. see 4.


good luck whether you are a parent, a son or both


Mohd.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: Hazem.Sharaf@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Hazem Sharaf)
Subject: Earthquake in Cairo, Egypt
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:15:48 GMT

There was an earthquake in Cairo, Egypt today at 3 PM. 300 were killed
and 4000 were injured or these are the first estimates.

If anyone has more information, please post it.

Thanks

Hazem H. Sharaf El-Din
--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
From: ahmad@ra.cs.umb.edu (Ahmad Hashem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Parents vs Children
Date: 9 Oct 92 02:18:52 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

Folks,

Imagine an Arab parent whose mature son has the choice of doing either
X or Y.  The parent thinks X is better for the son and will make him
happier, either in this life or in the one hereafter.  The son, however
thinks Y is better for him and will make him happier.  Questions:
1. What should the son do; X or Y?  What if he knew that doing Y will
   make the parent miserable and that doing X will make HIM miserable?
2. Should the parent insist on the son's doing X?  Or should the parent
   just trust the son's judgment and be happy with whatever the son
   thinks is better for him.
3. Do you think things would be different if the "son" were a "daughter"?
   How?
4. Do you expect variations in these matters from one class/group to another?
5. Do you think a Western parent/son/daughter would handle this
   differently from Arabs?  How?  Which is "better" in your opinion?

I'd be interested in any comments.

Salaam,
Ahmad
From: sal@IASTATE.EDU (olcayto ataman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: Phony Scholars
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:04:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: IASTATE.1992Oct8.190412
Reply-To: sal@IASTATE.EDU (olcayto ataman)
Organization: Iowa State University

In article <nabeel.718572186@oracle.sce.carleton.ca>, nabeel@sce.carleton.ca
(Bulbul) writes:
> Do you guys remember the Beard Parade when the thickest Beards
> of "Muslim World" that oil aroma could attract gathered in Mecca
> (?) to discuss the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait? They resolved (among
> other equally hypocritical resolutions) that it was a religious
> obligation for EVERY Muslim individual to fight Iraq. From the
> fact that those Beards did not fight Iraq themselves, it is
> concluded that they did not consider themselves Muslims which
> is one of the very few honest things they've ever done. It
> never crossed illieterate Muslims' minds that non-Muslims are
> not allowed to issue religious resolutions.
> 
>    For God's sakes, Mr. Beard, behave it or shave it!
> 
> Of course in Bagdad another group of equally thick beards 
> gathered  and issued contradictory resolutions and each group
> supported their resolutions by an endless list of verses and
> hadiths. And some people dare to say that Islam is a bigoted
> religion! Where else can Beards (or any other body parts, e.g.
> Bums) support their every whim by an endless list of scripture 
> quotes?
> 
>    I have the urge to ask Beards this question. What is Islam's
> position on a guy who gathers all those Beards and passes them
> through a poultry plucking machine? I hope he is not an infidel
> as usual.
> 
>    The funny thing though was that in Jordan some people could
> recognise the picture of King Hussain and Saddam engraved in
> the moon (were optical glasses that expensive?) Thank God they
> did not know La Cicciolina or otherwise they would have 
> recognised her too.
> 
> ** "Man 'uraada 'an ta*toola li*hyatoh, falyomashshi*tahaa min
>     'asfal."

Dear Bulbul:

waana aruddu ilayka,
masalun bimasalin,
"ya rayta dhaknahum @ishshon lil@ankabuuti".
an old turkish poem:
   gule guush ettiremez yok yere bulbul inler,
   varak-i mihru vefayi kim okur kim dinler?

wassalaam. 

>                                             Old Persian Proverb
> 
> 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: martillo@stars.clearpoint.com (Joachim Martillo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: haha
Summary: Unauthorized violation of the Prime Directive.
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:55:28 GMT
Organization: United Federation of Planets, Division of Earth Monitoring

In article <4090@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) writes:
>In article <23825@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bakken@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Bakken) writes:

>	[racist garbage deleted]

>>Why did you post something that you knew would be deeply offensive
>>and inflamatory?

>Better yet, where are all the moral Arab voices whom, not long ago,
>said that any criticism of fellow Arabs, such as of the one thread
>on Kuwait, should be removed from this newsgroup?

>Perhaps it is good to recognize such racists who do not have anything
>of interest or value to add to this newsgroup and probably society
>itself.

>Anisa

No one should approve such offensive jokes whether they are against
Palestinians, against Kuwaitis, against Syrians or even -- as
trajectio ad absurdum -- against Israelis.  In contrast, nationalism
whether Arab, Palestinian, Syrian, Kuwaiti or Jewish is garbage.
Likewise human religions are garbage, and the fundamentalism
associated with Abrahamic religions is dangerous and must be
extirpated.

Dumping on nationalism, religion and fundamentalism is completely
different from dumping on the poor people who have deluded themselves
with these ridiculous ideas.

The problem, which I and probably Anwar have with you, lies in your
reaction to those with whom you disagree.  Anwar Muhammad, Mohammed
Merigh, Ibaa Oueichek, Aziz Faris and I all disagree on some issues
but we do not call each other racist or traitors to whatever the
current fad ideology among Arab intellectuals is.

Anisa,

I think you have a brain, but you should also lighten up.  I think I
understand the origin of your intensity and periodically write to your
antagonists and request them to ease up on you.  As far as I can tell
you only want to argue the excellence of Islam, the evil of the
Israelis, the duplicity of the Americans and the immorality of the
Kuwaitis.  This agenda is probably not very likely to free
Palestinians of Israeli rule.

And to tell the truth, my family went through this process with the
French when the nationalists asserted essentially that heaven would
arrive on earth once the French left.  Perhaps it did for the few
nationalist leaders who seized power but not for the rest of us.
There is no reason to believe the result would be any different if
Islamic fundamentalism triumphed either.

So why don't you find some other topic to discuss like Arabic music or
literature, linguistics and take a vacation on the usual stuff for a
while.  I suspect you would be capable of discussing some other
subjects intelligently, but I would like to see it.

Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami
--
Joachim Carlo Santos Martillo Ajami

The article represents noone's opinions other than the author's.
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: haha
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:51:08 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1992Oct14.192240.5908@cs.wayne.edu> mok@loki.cs.wayne.edu (Mohammad Kanaan) writes:

>Please guys Ignore this sick kid and let us not sink to his level. This
>way we can concentrate on mature discussions.

I somewhat agree with you but I don't believe that we should accepted
and forgot about it either.  We have to stand up these kinds of
intollerable remarks and see to it that it doesn't happen again.

It is simply unacceptable and I think something should be done about
it.

Anisa
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: rayes@Goat.mcs.kent.edu (Mohamed Omar Rayes)
Subject: It is  Poetry Quiz Time Again
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 05:20:07 GMT

Assalamu Ala Men Attaba Alhuda:

   First I would cite to quote the following quote from 
Hamilton Gibb's "Arabic literature, 2nd ed., 1963" describing
Arabic literature:

  "The most striking feature in Arabic literatures its unexpectedness.
Over and over again, with scarcely a hint to give warning of what is 
coming, a new literary art emerges fully-fledged, often with a perfection
never equalled by later exponents of the same art. Nowhere is this 
element of surprise more striking than in the first appearance of Arabic
as a vehicle of literature. At one moment Arabia seems, in a literary sense
, empty and dumb except for some votive or businesslike inscriptions in 
a variety of dialects. At the next, companies of poets spring up all over
northern Arabia, reciting complex odes, qasidas, in which a series of themes
are elaborated with unsurpassed vigour, vividness of imagination, and
precision of imagery, in an infinitely rich and highly articulated language,
showing little or no traces of dialect, and cast into complex and flexible
metrical that rhyme throughout the poem."

Here is an Example. Can you identify the author, the time, and the
occasion  in which this poem was written?
I have a small request. Please do not address me as "Sandra". This
is her husband.

1) Atawka yajorron alhaded ka anahom
   saraw be jeyaden ma lahonna kawaemo

2) Etha barako lam to orafu al beetho menhomo
   theyabohom men methleha wa alamemo

3) Kameson be sharke al arthe wa algarbe zahfoho
   wa fe othono aljwazao menho zamazemo

4) Tajama feehe kollo lesnen wa ommatten 
   fama tofhemo alhoddatha ella atarajemo

5) Wa kafta wa fe almoute shaknon le wakefon
   ka annaka fe jafne arrada wa howa naaemo

6) Tammoro beka albtalo kalma hazematan
   Wa wajhuka wathahon wa thegroka basemon.


Translation:

1)  They came against you trailing their steel, as though they travelled
    by night on horses that had no feet.

2)  When they flashed, their swords  could not be distinguished---
    their garments and headgear were of the like (steel);

3)  An army that marched slowly from the east of the earth and the
    west, confused noises proceeding from it (echoing) in the ears
    of the Gemini;

4)  Gathered together in it was every tongue and nation, and only
    only interpreters could make the speakers  understood.

5)  [In the midst of all of that] You stood firm, when there was no
    doubt that any who stood must die, as though you were in the very
    eyelid of death, and death  was sleep,

6) The champions passing you by, wounded and in flight, whlist
   your face shone brightly and your mouth was smiling!
From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: haha
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:32:18 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <1992Oct14.033630.29509@cs.brown.edu> dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren) writes:
>ashamam@oak.math.ucla.edu (Asher Shamam) writes:

>#Q :what's the difference between a palestinean and a bucket of
>#camel shit ?
>#
>#A : the bucket

>And how did Mr. Shamam finally learn to wear his underpants in
>the right way?

Such rabid dogs are not even worthy of a title.

>-The yellow side in the front, the brown side in the back.

The flea collar he wears around his neck is pretty worn-out too.

Anisa
jhsegal
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Condoleances
From: jhsegal@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il (Akiba Segal)
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:15:57 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computation Center


   Since there is not such a newsgroup as soc.culture.egypt I decided to
post this message here.
   I want to express,by this,my condoleances to all the Egyptian families who
had lost a close soul in the tragic disaster in Cairo 2 days ago.I also want
to wish fast recovery to all the wounded in this earthquaqe.
				   Livian Segal
				   Weizmann Institute of Science
				   ISRAEL

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From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Nabeel Ghuzlaan)
Subject: Lost Articles
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:57:21 GMT

   I posted two articles which for one reason or the other (most
probably the other) were lost and did not make it. I do not feel
like rewriting them.

   In the first so article I mentioned the existance of some
decent Kuwaiti persons, described them and declared that they
are not the majority. I also proved from Koran that most people
are wrong (e.g. "inna l'insaana lirabbihee lakanood.")

   In the second article, I commented on the Kuwaiti elections
congratulating Kuwaitis on their fractional victory and wished
them more in their way to dignity, and decency.

** "ya wlaadi l*halaal *duu^ minni *gazaal, billaah yaa naas
    roddooh liyya."
From: mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Help-Views
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:59:04 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

For an article to appear in my University paper I am looking for persons to
tell me about their naturalization and there feelings about voting in this
election and/or the right to vote.


Raina Weinberg
From: oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Re: haha
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:25:34 GMT
Organization: IMAG Institute, University of Grenoble, France
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Asher Shamam (ashamam@oak.math.ucla.edu) wrote:
: Q :what's the difference between a palestinean and a bucket of
: camel shit ?
: 
: A : the bucket

 Poor guy, and you think it's funny ?.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
From: jle@locus.com (John Elghani/10000000)
Subject: Re: haha
Organization: LC
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:30:34 GMT

In article <4089@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Anisa Alnoor Aldoubosh) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.033630.29509@cs.brown.edu> dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren) writes:
>>ashamam@oak.math.ucla.edu (Asher Shamam) writes:
>
>>#Q :what's the difference between a palestinean and a bucket of
>>#camel shit ?
>>#
>>#A : the bucket

Did you guys notice his name?  SHAMMAM?   Now, SHAMMAM means
'smeller' in arabic.  I wonder if likes to SHIM smelly butts, and  he
got the above idea when he happened to be SHIMMING a Palestinian's 
butt whom did not shower after visiting the Bath Room.  :)

Enough of you Mr Shammam  Alt***z. 

jle

>The flea collar he wears around his neck is pretty worn-out too.

Aren't you wondering about MR SHAMMAM's (the smeller) nose!!

jle

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.arabic
Subject: HELP! ARABIC & AL-QUR'AN NEEDED
From: <AXS158@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:31:31 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

AS-SALEM ALEIKUM,
 I AM IN NEED OF INTERNET ADDRESSES, BBS, FILES AND OR SOFTWARE THAT
WILL ASSIST ME IN MY NEED OF LEARNING ARABIC AND ALSO AL-QUR'AN FOR MY PC.
YOUR ASSISTANCE IS GREATLY APPRECIATED.
SHUKRAN,
MA-SALAMA
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