From: milbouma@eplrx7.es.duPont.com (Mark Milbourne SCD)
Subject: The Soaring List lives again!
Organization: DuPont Engineering Physics Laboratory
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 20:12:50 GMT


Several months ago (before rec.aviation split into subgroups), a glider pilot
asked "How many of us are there".  I offered to compile a list to get a feel 
for the number and also saw it as an opportunity to gather information that 
would be useful to us net.glider.pilots for purposes given below.

I compiled the list to a count of 90.  The last update was in early September.
I've been busier since then, but the holiday lull at work has given me the
opportunity to bring the list up to date since I have received a few more
responses and corrections.  If I counted correctly, the total now stands at 97.
I'm sure this new posting will bring a few more out of the woodwork and push
the total over 100.

I have removed one entry from a hang glider pilot.  Now that we have our own 
soaring newsgroup, the HG types are welcome to make their own list.  I'm not
against hang gliding (I've tried it and hope to do more!) but my primary
interest is with sailplanes.  There were only one or two HG responses anyway.

As before, please check your entry to make sure all your info is included and
correct.  I may have abbreviated or modified things slightly to be consistent
or to make the line wrap at a convenient place.  Don't hesitate to send
corrections, revisions or additions.  If I somehow omitted your submission, my
profuse apologies - please send it again and I'll be sure to add it.

Restating the purposes of the list - for the benefit of anyone who missed the
original postings - 
To assist soaring rec.aviatiors:
1) Possibly visit/fly with each other.
2) Correspond about flying, buying, and maintaining specific types.
3) Help the rec.aviation soaring folk get an idea of how many of us there are.
4) Generally get a better sense of "community" which will help us whether we 
   get split off into rec.aviation.soaring or not.

Several people were apparently under the impression that this was a mailing
list - like the one that exists for hang-gliding.  IT IS NOT!  It is just for
the purposes mentioned above.

Send additions and corrections to me.

Happy Thermaling!

    Mark Milbourne
    milbouma@esvax.dnet.dupont.com
----------------- rec.aviators who soar ----------------------------------
KEY to list:
Summary -
  Name;email;rating;organization & location;sailplanes flown;hours;badges

Elaboration-
  Real Name;
  e-mail address;
  Rating(glider rating, not power);
    S-Student, P-Private, C-Commercial, I-Instructor, T-tow pilot
    UK Ratings:
      AEI - Air Experience Instructor, AI - Assistant Instructor,
      FCI - Full Cat. Instructor, RMGI - Restricted Motor Glider Instructor
    NA - Glider rating not applicable in country flown

  Location you normally fly;
    name of club and/or airfield-FBO, city,state and/or country
    Use following abbrevs in club names if you need to conserve space:
        GC-Glider Club, SC-Soaring Club, SA-Soaring Association.
        SS-Soaring Society, FC-Flying Club, GP-Glider Port
  Sailplanes you own(ed) or have flown;
    Concerning specific types - some people have just put Grob or Blanik.  I
    suggest using G103, G102, L-13, L-23 etc to be more specific.
  Hours in sailplanes;
  FAI or other badges

Aland Adams;aland@fc.hp.com;C,I(exp);Colorado SA;
    1-26,1-34,1-35,2-32,2-33,Blanik L-13,G102,G103,M-100,Pilatus,Twin Lark,
    Caproni,Std Cirrus,PIK-20B,PIK-20D,PIK-20E,ASW-20,LS 6-b(Currently owned);
    1500;Silver,Gold-w/3Diamonds
Hans Ahllund;HAHLLUND@finabo.abo.fi;I+T;Vaasa, Finland & Menkij{rvi Finland;
    TwinAstir,G103II,G103IIICAcro,ASK21,Puchacz,AstirJeans,G102IIIb,ASK-23,
    Ka-6Cr,PIK-5c,PegaseA,DG-300,PIK-20D,DG-600M,ASW-19B,G109A,G109B;
    500;Silver,Gold,Diamond goal
Del Armstrong;dela@ee.rochester.edu;P;Dansville, NY;
    2-33, 1-26, Blanik, 1-34
Rob Ballantyne;ballanty@cs.sfu.ca;P;Vancouver SA, Hope BC Canada;
    Blanik,G102,G103(Acro)
tony bible;bible@iastate.edu;P;AMW, Ames IA;
    L-13,2-22,2-33,1-26
Moshe Braner;braner@theory.TC.CORNELL.EDU;P;Sugarbush, Warren VT;
    2-33,1-26,working on solo ASK-21
Mike Brooks;brooks@imsl.com;P;Houston Soaring Association,Houston TX;
    Pilatus B4, Blanik L-13, IS28 Twin Lark
Geoff Brown;G.B.D.Brown@bnr.co.uk;AEI;Cambridge GC, UK;K7, K13, K21,
    BLANIK (new and old), JANUS_C, K8A, K6CR, own K6E, ASTIR, DISCUS,JUNIOR,
    SLINGSBY T21, PUCHACZ;300;Silver-C,2/3 Gold-C,1 Diamond;
Taber Bucknell;taberb@newbridge.com;I;Gatineau GC, Pendleton, Ontario, Canada;
    Jantar std. 2,K-13,Astir CS,Hornet,Mosquito,2-22,2-33,+
Marcel Burlet;marcel@cup.hp.com;P;Crazy Creek, Middletown CA;
    G103A,DG101,1-34,2-33,L-13
Steve Bussolari;stevebu@atc.ll.mit.edu;CIT;MITSA, Sterling MA;
    WA-22,23,B-901,M-21,M-22,2-32,2-33,1-26,1-34,1-35,1-36,G102,G103,LS-1f,L-13,
    Fauconnet,K-13,ASK21,Caproni,Libelle,MG-23sl,Janus,Phoebus-C,Pilatus B4,G109
Mike Cohler;mdc1@VAXA.YORK.AC.UK;P+AEI+T;York G.C. - UK;
    (Own)Skylark4,K13,K7,K21,(Own) Swallow, K6CR,Astir,Skylark2,25 glider types
    + Pawnee 'C', PA28, Falke; Total Flying 450 hours; FAI Silver
Michael Corvin;zwork@starfighter.den.mmc.com;P;Denver CO;
    2-22,2-33,K7,K8,1-26
John Crawford;jcrawfor@oracle.com;P;St. Louis Soaring, Highland IL;
    2-33,1-26,1-34,K13,L23,G102,G103
George Devlin;ged@research.nj.nec.com;P:Central Jersey SC, Solberg Arpt NJ;
    2-22,2-33,1-23,1-26,L13;200hrs;none
Tom Dickinson;dickinso@bnl.gov;I+T;Long Island SA, NY;
    1-26,2-32,2-33,1-35,l-L1
Jer/ Eberhard;jle@fc.hp.com;CIT;Colo SA, Owl Canyon GP-4CO2, Wellington, CO;
    1-26,2-32,2-33,1-34,G102,G103(Twin Astir,Club,Acro),G109A,G109B,
    Blanik L-13,Janus,Bushwacker Mower for runways;150;FAA Wings 5;
    Tow:  180hp Stinson 108-1, 150&180hp SuperCub, 180hp Scout;
Guenther Eichhorn;gei@cfa.harvard.edu;C+T;MIT SA, Sterling MA;
    L-23,1-26,1-34;45;A,B
Lars-Henrik Eriksson;lhe@sics.se;PT;Uppsala FC, Sundbro, Sweden;
    Bergfalke, Discus, Twin Astir, K8b;50;none
Jerry Farrell;Jerry.Farrell@eng.sun.com;s;
    Crazy Creek (Middletown) & Lagoon Valley (Vacaville) CA;ASK-21,Grob 103A
Mike Fontenot;mlf@druwy.att.com;CT;Boulder CO;
    PIK-20B
Kevin Ford; ford@symcom.math.uiuc.edu; Illini GC, Monticello IL;
    1-26,2-33,Grob Astir CS; 180; Silver, 2/3 Gold
Bill Ganoe;bill@sie.arizona.edu;S;Tucson SC, El Tiro AZ ;
    2-33
Jim Garrison;jcg8w@virginia.edu;C;Waynesboro VA;
    2-33,ASK-21,G103,1-26,1-23,1-36,1-34,L-13,Pegasus,Lark 2-place,own ASW-19B
Ron Gaynier;gaynier@s1.elec.uq.oz.au;I; Jondaryan, Qld. Australia;
    LS7(XOW),Ka7,G103,Hornet,Blanik
Eric Geiselman;egeiselman@falcon.aamrl.wpafb.af.mil;P;Caesar Creek SC,
    Waynesville OH;S2-22,S2-33;S1-26;G103;150TT.
John Gersh;gersh@aplpy.jhuapl.edu;C;Woodbine, MD;
    2-33,1-26,G-103,G-102
Randy Gobbel;gobbel@cogsci.ucsd.edu;P;Warner Springs, CA;
    Mosquito N53Z,2-33,1-26,2-32,1-34,G102,G103,ASK-21,B4,Club Libelle,
    Ventus,ASW-19,Pegasus,Mini-Nimbus,Janus,Janus-C,Taifun,Blanik
Victor Grubbs;victor@marie.stat.uga.edu;P;Mid-GA Soaring Assn, Monroe GA;
    20+ types, H-301 Libelle, club has 1-34,G103,Blanik;1200+
Gary Hade;garyh@SLC.com;P;WillametteValleySoarClub,Portland OR;
    2-33,1-26,G103
Dave Hagood;hagood@sabre.den.mmc.com;S;Black Forest CO;
    2-33,1-26,lawn mowing-tractor
Don Hammer;donovanh@orca.wv.tek.com;I+T;NorthPlains OR;
    SZD-51-1, SGS 1-26/2-32/2-33, Blanik, Lark
Lewis Hartswick lharts@xenon.unm.edu, P, Albuq. NM (not current)
    2-33, 1-26, G-102,
Ian Henderson;sgccifh@citecuc.citec.oz.au;p;Darling Downs SC, Qld Australia;
    K7,G103
Robert Herndon;rh@craycos.com;S;High Flights Soaring, Meadowlake CO;
    2-33
Allan N. Hessenflow;allanh@netcom.com;P;?;
    2-33,1-26,G 103,G 102,ASK-21,SZD-51-1
Michael Hog;hog@bean.isd.uni-stuttgart.de;P;Sportfliegerclub Tuttlingen,
    Klippeneck, Germany;Bergfalke IV,ASK-13,Astir CS,G-103,Mistral-C,
    Standard-Cirrus,LS-3-17(own),LS-4,LS-7,Discus,Salto,H-36 Dimona;750hours
Bruce Hoult;Bruce@hoult.actrix.gen.nz;S;Paraparaumu, New Zealand;
    Blanik L-13
David Howard;david.howard@sun.com;private;Lagoon Valley Soaring, Vacaville CA;
    2-33,1-26,ASK21,Grob-103
Thomas Johnson;tjohnson@pdx.mentorg.com;?;North Plains OR;
    ASW19,2-33,1-26,+
Mark Kampe;markk@West.Sun.COM;S;Cal City, CA;
    L13, 2-33, 1-26; 40
David Kinsell;kinsell@fc.hp.com;P;Colorado SA,Wellington CO;
    KA-6CR,2-32,1-34,L-13,G103,LP49;280;FAI gold+diamond goal
Jeff Kleinwaks;kleinwaks@link.com;C;TCSS,Endicott NY;
    2-33,1-26,1-34,Std Cirrus
Jeff Knell;jeffk@dosXX.med.utah.edu;P;Salt Lake City UT;
    2-33,1-26
Josh Koslov;josh@sol.asl.hitachi.com;P;SS of PrincetonUniv,VanSant,Erwinna PA;
    1-26,2-22,2-33
Rick Lafford;lafford@serum.kodak.com;I+T;Dansville, NY;
    Discus
Richard Larsen;no email;private;Carolina Soaring, Louisberg N.C.;
    2-33,1-26,1-34,2-32,l-13,g-103,szd-51,krosno kr03;160;no badges
Sylvain Louboutin;sloubtin@dsg.cs.tcd.ie;Dublin GC, Ire & Ulster GC, N.Ire;NA;
    ASK-18,Ka-8,Ka-6,ASK-13,Ka-7;200;Silver-C
Craig Maiman;craigm@sequoia.com;S;Salem,NH;
    2-33
Marc Majka;majka@next.com;P;High Country Soaring, Minden NV;
    G102,G103
Jon Marthins;jon@dikas.no;I;Tonsberg/Sandefjord GC Norway;
    LS-1,LS-3,LS-4,Twin Astir,Astir CS77,K-7,K-8,K-13,K-21,Blanik,IS28M2,
    Mistral-C,Bergfalke II/III/IV,Motorfalke;600;Silver-C,Goal&Dist. diamond
David Martin;David_Martin@kcbbs.gen.nz;S;Glenfield, Auckland, New Zealand;
    L-13, Rhonlerche, Falke;6.5
Steve Mc Robert;dinsdale@berlioz.nsc.com;P+T;byron&truckee CA;
    dg300(gj),g103,pilatus b-4,blanik
Guy Middleton;gamiddleton@math.uwaterloo.ca;S;Guelph G&SA,Elmira,Ont. Canada;
    2-33, 1-26, Lark;50
Mark Milbourne;milbouma@esvax.dnet.dupont.com;P;Brandywine SA
    New Garden N57, Toughkenamon PA; 2-33,1-26,G103,KR-03A;45hrs;none
Judah Milgram;milgram@eng.umd.edu;C+T;;
    K-6,7,8,13,21,Astir,IS28,B4,+
Rich Miller;rmiller@i88.isc.com;P;Chicago GC, Channahon, IL;1-26,2-32,2-33,
    1-34,1-35,Blanik,Twin Lark,Astir CS,Twin Astir,LS-4,Discus, Mini-Nimbus
Colin Millerchip;colin@cs.uq.oz.au;S;DDSC, Jondaryan, QLD, Australia;
    K7
Phil Mlsna;phil@eagle.ece.arizona.edu;I;El Tiro,Tucson,AZ;
    PIK20D,Janus,Twin Grob,2-33,1-26,2-32,+
Perry Morrison (Dr);swkmorri@nuscc.nus.sg;?;?;
    ?;?;?
Charles Mueller;cmueller@oavax.cuschico.edu;P,T;ChicoSA;MontagueCA,ParowanUT;
    OpenCirrus,Jantar2A,Grobs,Blanik,Schweizers;550hrs;Cbadge.
Eric Niedrauer;ericn@corp.sgi.com;P;Truckee CA;
    PIK20D
Ian O'Brien;ian@anasazi.com;S;Phoenix, AZ;
    2-33;10+
Geoff Peck;geoff@peck.com;C;High Country/Soar Minden/Minden NV + Truckee CA;
    DG300,G102,G103,1-26,2-33,MiniNimbus,StdCirrus;FAI gold + diamond goal
Steve Peltz;tricorn@uiuc.edu;I;Illini GC, Monticello IL;
    2-33,1-26,Grob
Mike Peters;mike.peters@DaytonOH.NCR.COM;P;Caesar Creek,OH;
    Speed Astir,1-35,1-36,Blanik,103,2-33,1-26
Howard Petri;petri@venus.iucf.indiana.edu;P;Wabash Valley SA, Lawrenceville,IL;
    Pegasus (own),ASK-13,K8,Ka-6e,Std Cirrus,Blanik,1-26,1-36,Grob-103,ASW-19;
    300 hrs;FAI Silver
Mike Pilla;pilla@mrspock.att.com;I+T;Readington NJ;
    2-33,1-23,1-26,L13,G102,G103+
Philip Plane;P.J.Plane@massey.ac.nz;S; Feilding NZ;
    Blanik,T31,Bocian,Rhonlerche
Thomas Pressley;pressley@girch1.med.uth.tmc.edu;P;Soaring Club of Houston TX
    1-34,G103
Marc Ramsey;marc@autodesk.com;P;Northern CA (various);
    ASK 21,G103,DG 101,DG 300,Pegasus
Paul Raveling;raveling@unify.com;P;Soar Minden, Minden NV;
    1-26,1-34,1-35,Club Libelle,Pilatus B4,2-22,2-32,2-33,Blanik L-13,
    G102,G103,ASK-21
Alasdair Rawsthorne;alasdair@cs.man.ac.uk;P;Lyon/France & Coventry GC/England;
    G103, ASK21, G102, Bocian (!), Puchacz, Ka-8, Libelle; 70; Bronze
B. Douglas Reeves;dreeves@ese3.ese.ogi.edu;none;Wilamette Valley Soaring Club;
    none (still saving to get rating in ~4 months)
Paul Richards;richards@rmtc.central.sun.com;C;Black Forest, CO;
    2-33, 1-26, 1-34, 1-35, G103(acro)
Joe Robison;joero@microsoft.com;P;Ephrata&Arlington,WA;
    StdCirrus,+
Mark Rogers;rogersmf@eplrx7.es.dupont.com;S;Brandywine SA,
    New Garden, Toughkenamon PA;2-33,1-26,G103
Dave Rolley;drolley@copper.colorado.edu;C;Black Forest, CO;
    Concept 70,2-33,1-34
Rex Root;rex@eng.umd.edu;P;Woodbine,MD;
    2-33,1-26,G103,vintage Slingsby
John Schiermeier;j_schiermeier@macsch.com;S;temp. inactive;
    2-33,1-26
Ian Spence;spence@psych.toronto.edu;I;SOSA, Ontario;
    30+ types;1100hrs
Michael Steckner;steckner@lri.uwo.ca;I;LSS London ONT Canada;2-33,1-26,1-23,
    1-35,1-34,L-13,LK-10,Ka6cr,ASW-15,LS-4,G102,G103;500hrs;Slvr,Gld,Dmnd Goal
Michael Steiner;msteiner@inf.ethz.ch;P;SGZ, Dittingen, Switzerland;
    LS4,DG500,+
Charlie Stone;cstone@ncc.telecomwa.oz.au;I;NarroginGC, Perth, W. Aus.;inactive,
    L-13,ES57 Kingfisher,ES52 Kookaburra,ES60 Boomerang,Ka6,Std Cirrus,Slingsby
    Dart,Phoebus C,Vasama,Pilatus B4,LibelleH201b,LibelleH205,BG12a,Ka2b,ASW15,
    ASW20,Astir CS,Astir twin;~430 hrs;Gold C & 2 Diamonds (distance & goal);
Kaye Stott;kaye@uniwa.uwa.edu.au;P;Beverley, W. Australia;
    Blanik, Puchacz
Chris Sullivan;sullivanc.sbd-e@rx.xerox.com;AI+P+T;Cambridge GC,UK;
    ASW19,ASW20,PIK20-D,Discus,Vega,Libelle,Astir,Kestrel 19, K6,K7,K8,K13,K21,
    T21,Janus,Puchacz,Junior,+;500;Gold+Diamond Goal
Ray Swartz;rls@uihepa.hep.uiuc.edu;Illini GC, Montecello IL;
    2-33,1-26,Astir CS
Darrell Tinker;darrellt@ross.com;P;FLF, Briggs TX;
    Lark,G102,G103,2-33,1-26
Peter Temple;prt@aeg.dsto.gov.au;I;Adelaide Uni;
    15 types - own ES60 Boomerang
Charles S. Thaeler, III;charlie@rad.com;P;none :-(;
    2-33,1-26,Lark,Blanik
Mark R. Tuttle;tuttle@crl.dec.com;S;MIT Soaring Association, Sterling, MA, USA;
    2-33,1-26,L-23;20?;none
Mike Vore;mvore@fedix.fie.com;P;MASA - Fairfield,Pa;
    Ka8(MU),B-4(K9),Schweitzer x-xx,AsK-13
Tony Verhulst;verhulst@aosg.gsf.dec.com;C;New England Gliderport, Salem NH
    1-34,2-33,L-23
Jim Wang; jim@esosun.css.gov;C;Warner Springs, CA (FBO);
    Blanik,1-26,2-33,B-4 Pilatus,1-34,1-34R,2-32,G103,ASK-21,Astir CS,G102,
    Pegasus,ASW-20A,LS-3,own LS-3a N33ED;1070hrs;Silver,Diamond Goal & Distance
Luke Whitaker;llw31@sm.ic.ac.uk;P;Essex GC, England;
    K6BR, K8, K13
Sid Wood;sid.wood@waterloo.NCR.COM;I;ex-SOSA,ONT,CAN; Rhonlerche,Bergefalke II,
    Ka-7,2-33,1-26,G102,G103,ASK-21,L-13,Blanik,ASW20,PIK20D,CherokeeII;~375hrs
Janet Wright;WRIGHT_J@DICKINSON.EDU;IT;Silent Wings FC, Wellsville PA;
    L-13,1-26