HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mirsky1@husc8.harvard.edu (David Mirsky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Ftp to friend's Mac?
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:52:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Sep3.195203.15353
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Hi. I have a friend who works for a computer-related company. He just
got his own internet node at work. Id like to be able to share files
with him using the ftp protocol. He doesnt know how to set up his
computer to allow me to do this, and neither do I. Its possible that
his company doesnt give its employees the ability to be an ftp
server. What does my friend need to do? Should I be able to
ftp directly to his address? I tried it and got a Connection refused
message. Is there any way he can allow me  access, or is that
refusal dictated by his company? The company does have a general ftp
site of its own, though its not anonymous. WOuld it be possible to 
access my friend's computer by ftping to the main computer? My guess
is that his company just doesnt allow outsiders to ftp to its
employees machines. However, i want to be sure.
 

Feel free to reply here or send via email.
 
Thanks
David
mirsky1@husc.harvard.edu
From: jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Shiva FastPath gateways
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:45:53 GMT
Organization: Medical College of Wisconsin

After several months of testing we have chosen the GatorBox over the Shiva
(formerly Kinetics?) FastPath 5 for localtalk-ethernet gateways.

This leaves us with 2 Shiva FastPaths.  Can anyone think of a use for these?
They're too small for bookends, and too light for boat anchors ;-)

John Moulder (jmoulder@mis.mcw.edu)
Radiation Biology
Medical College of Wisconsin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: lind@ll.mit.edu (Tom Lind)
Subject: ? Printing - AppleTalk & Ethernet
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 19:31:37 GMT

Are there any ways in which a user can choose and print to a Laser printer
connected to a Macintosh via AppleTalk after having selected an EtherTalk
card for communications onto an ethernet.

e-mail answers would be best.     thanks.

Thomas A. Lind  < lind@ll.mit.edu >   |   Work Hard, tell everyone every-
Electrooptical Devices Group          |   thing you know, close a deal
MIT Lincoln Lab                       |   with a handshake, and HAVE FUN.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.apps
From: zaphod@bluemoon.rn.com (Peter Bierman)
Subject: Re: Hermes 2.0, Hardware Handshaking, and a Mac Classic -- HELP!!!!
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 92 00:04:03 EDT

covert@cactus.org (Richard Covert) writes:

> what about the mac SE or SE/30? Do they have a CD connection?
> 
> I want to run a small mac bbs using either an SE or an SE/30.
> 
> will they work?

Yep. The SE and the SE/30 have the DCD hooked to pin 7. It's just the LC, 
LCII, Classic, and Classic II that Apple shortsighted just in time for the 
surge of cheap high speed modems.


---
The opinions I express are rarely my own, because my own are far too
outragous to post here.

IntNet:zaphod@bluemoon.rn.com    FutureNet: #33@#10
The Metropolis (614)-846-1911
---
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: alen@crash.cts.com (Alen Shapiro)
Subject: High speed modems and line quality
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:35:12 GMT
Summary: Are there any published specs for line quality?
Keywords: 9600 14400 12000 baud line noise quality modem

I have a prometheus ultima home office modem which is capable of
14400 baud data connects. I am only able to achieve reliable
connects at or under 9600 UNLESS I use my long distance (SPRINT)
"fon-card". Looks like I have a line quality problem. The problem
is reliably repeatable and (so far) has only manifested itself
when I call one particular area (El Cajon (from Ramona)).

When I use my long distance card (which presumably switches me
through different (fiber optics?) trunks). My modem correctly
recognises 3 different brands of 14400 capable modems at the other end.

Are there any published voice-grade spectrums that the phone
company adheres to? Are the 14400 carriers designed to work within
voice-grade specifications? (I can't wait not to be able to use
V.fast when it appears :-().

I've contacted Pac-Bell it is taking some time to work through the
technical levels to get to someone I can discuss the problem with.
I think they will end up punting and claiming that they are within
spec.

When I dial the line manually (not from a modem) I can hear overtones
(like echoes) when the called modem puts out the first few (high
speed) tones. I'm not sure if these should be there or not.

The effect on the Prometheus modem is that it detects a 14400 carrier
but connects to it WITHOUT error correction (LAP-M/v42bis). The connect
is garbage at this point. I'm in contact with Prometheus tech support
and we are trying to isolate any negotiation failure in the Ultima.
Trouble is, when they call (long distance) the calls go through
just fine!!!

suggestions/comments/hints anyone?

--alen
alen@crash.cts.com
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:8560 comp.sys.mac.system:11501
From: MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan - Somogyi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: BUG REPORT (Updated) StuffIt SS and TelePort 2.03
Date: Tue,  1 Sep 92 12:07:58 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

og@access.digex.com (Gary Goldberg) writes:

>I have noticed what appears to be a serious conflict between the updated
>Space- Saver control panel and the Global Village TelePort 'TelePort 2.03'
>control panel.

I am running SpaceSaver 1.0.1 and TelePort 2.03 together without problems.
One of your other INITs may be the culprit. You might want to find a copy
of INITtracker 1.3 and send the resulting file to Aladdin and Global
Village.

For those not familiar with it, INITtracker is a tremendously useful
utility that generates a report about what INITs do at startup time: which
traps are patched, whether new drivers are installed, and which lo-mem
globals are changed. It's helped me narrow down some convoluted
incomatibilities in the past.

__________________________________________________________________________
Stephan Somogyi            puzzle-piece together-putter            MacUser
From: lkingsley@crd.ge.com (Lorne J. Kingsley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: NewsWatcher : alphabetical order of newsgroup ?
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:52:09 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: General Electric R&D

In article <iscjcw-260892144700@ajax.ucop.edu>, iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu
(Jerry Wilcox) wrote:
> 
> In article <knguyen-260892142413@knguyen.emr.ca>, knguyen@emr.ca (Khanh Kim
> Nguyen) wrote:
> > 
> > Hi, I am using NewsWatcher 1.3d5. I often update new newsgroups in my list
> > of newsgroup. During updating, new newsgroups usually go to the bottom of
> > the list, so I have to arrange manually the list. 
> > My question : Is there a feature I miss in NewsWatcher which helps me to
> > get the alphabetical order for the list automatically ?
> > 
> > Khanh Kim Nguyen
> > internet : knguyen@emr.ca
> > cc:mail: knguyen@cc2smtp.emr.ca
> > bitnet : knguyen@EMRCAN.BITNET
> 
> As far as I know, no, there is no such option. I don't, in fact, want my
> subscribed groups in alphabetical order - I want them in the order I have
> them arranged, so that when I read news I will (1) get the groups I've
> given highest priority to, first; and (2) can leave the "bottom" groups go
> unread if I'm pressed for time.
> -----------
> Jerry Wilcox - iscjcw@uccvma.ucop.edu
> All opinions expressed are MINE -- I'd have a different job if the
> University wanted me to speak for it.

Well, OK, maybe that's what you want, but I think there should be an option
to alphabetize the group list. I agree with the original poster on this
one. Often I add subgroups to my group window, and the subgroup doesn't
appear near the others in that subgroup. E.g.,  I subscribe to
comp.sys.mac.comm, and want to later add comp.sys.mac.apps. If I do it, it
appears at the bottom of the list. Not what I want.

Oh well, John Norstad is continually updating the app, so maybe that's in
the future.

- Lorne

************************************************************************
Lorne J. Kingsley                               General Electric Company
--->my opinions don't represent those of the General Electric Company<--
Internet: lkingsley@crd.ge.com  CI$: 75166,2550  America Online: LorneK1
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: thomas@uts.EDU.AU (T Brodhursthill)
Subject: Mac Plus on AppleShare run system 7?
Organisation: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:56:14 GMT
Keywords: AppleShare, system 7

Help,
I am trying to get system 7.0.1 running on a group of floppy drive 800K Mac Plus
ses with 4MB of RAM.
I have had succes with "InitShare" under system 6 to have the boot floppies load
 all the INITs, cdevs, fonts, sounds etc from the server at startup. I seem to r
emember coming accross a similar INIT months ago that only worked with system 7
allowing you to put aliases in the boot system  of INITs (and hopefully the find
er) that pointed to files on the server.
I also had the idea that the bulk of system 7 could be put into a large INIT on
the server which could be loaded at startup.
Can someone please help me with any of the above?

Please don't reply to this account.
email to thomas@phys.uts.edu.au

I'll post any solutions.

Tom
From: wilhelm@michelotti.ae.ge.com (Roland K. Wilhelm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Extracting SEA's
Date: 24 Aug 92 02:37:04 GMT
	<WILHELM.92Aug21185715@michelotti.ae.ge.com>
	<1992Aug22.045008.7692@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
	<CKD.92Aug22164904@loiosh.eff.org>
Reply-To: <wilhelm@michelotti.ae.ge.com>
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: GE Aircraft Engines

# In message <CKD.92Aug22164904@loiosh.eff.org>, 
# ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
christopher> Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
christopher> Nntp-Posting-Host: loiosh.eff.org

christopher> [followups to c.s.m.comm]
WS> == William Stocker <stocker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU> 

 WS> What exactly is "MacBinary" format?

christopher> It's a way of encoding the Mac's file information
christopher> (icon &c), data fork, and resource fork into one
christopher> file in such a way that it can be stored on an
christopher> "unforked" system like a BBS or ftp site.

christopher> BinHex does the same thing, but also encodes the file into ASCII in such
christopher> a way that it can be emailed.

If you want all the gory details, checkout the
/dts/mac/docs/macbinary directory of ftp.apple.com.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: fredrick@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Timothy Fredrick)
Subject: Is there a thin-ethernet combined with 8-bit graphics card for the SI?
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:58:41 GMT

I thought I remembered from a while ago that someone markets an 8-bit
graphics card with thin-net ethernet built into it.  This would be for
a Mac IIsi with Apple 12" monitor.

Does anyone know of such a card.  If not, what would be your recommendation
for finding two cards that:

      1. One extends the Nu-BUS slot for the other
      2. Provides thin and preferably also thick ethernet
      3. Provides 8-bit graphics to speed up the Apple 12" display
      4. Provides somewhere for the FPU to go

Any help or useful advise would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

--Tim Fredrick (fredrick@acd.ucar.edu)
  Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry, Boulder CO 80307

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: philip@ziggy.stanford.edu (Philip Machanick)
Subject: Re: 2 LINER: Where can I ftp MacTCP1.1 from?!
Reply-To: philip@ziggy.stanford.edu (Philip Machanick)
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:01:51 GMT

In article <BtJuwr.I7C@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)  
writes:
> MacTCP (including 1.1) is a liscensed Apple System Product and is not free.
> Last I checked it was $195 a copy.  Some sites (like the University of  
Illinois
> where I work) have negotiated a blanket campus site liscense.  you may wish  
to
> check with your academic computing service department at Harvard to see if
> they have such an agreement and to verify its terms.  THEN if they don't
> have one, maybe your Apple Rep can get you an educational discount.
> 
Surely it's less than $195. In fact you can get it for less by buying the  
MacTCP Developer's kit from APDA for $100 which includes MacTCP as well as  
programming stuff.
--
Philip Machanick
philip@pescadero.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Mac BBS software.... what options are there ?
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 23:32:20 GMT
Organization: Physics Dept.Massey University
X-Xxdate: Wed, 2 Sep 92 17:30:06 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9

What options are there for Macs, I have seen HERMES and some of
the mail about it but there must be other options.

A friend said that there are about half a dozen different
programs, but which is best ?

I have looked in the FAQs but there seems to be no information out there
 and in New Zealand we are a little more isolated so tend not
 to have the access to the same information and options.
 
 My alternative is to buy (god forgive me ) a PC and run a BBS on that
 but seeing that I have a Mac spare it seem logical to use that.
From: emv@ilium.troy.msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: ICE Engineering Dead? (uAccess creators)
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:38:54 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc.

In article <01058004.c07qog@oberon.notable.com> daven@notable.com writes:
>
>Well, I've since learned that ICE Engineering is on vacation, which
>may explain their silence these last 3 weeks.

Tim's due back some time in the next couple of days - I expect to see
him next Monday or Tuesday.  

>It has also been pointed out that there is a updater that will take
>uAccess 1.5v4 to 1.5v5 available for FTP from the "msen" site.

The directory is ftp.msen.com:/pub/vendor/ice/ua.  The updater there
will take the software from 1.5v5 to 1.6v1 - but it will not function
with earlier versions than 1.5v5.  The instructions in the file there
suggest to contact "update@ice.com" for more info.  I'll be sure Tim
puts something here to let people know.

--Ed

Edward Vielmetti, vice president, research, Msen Inc. emv@msen.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: sold@kit.uni-kl.de (Christoph Sold)
Subject: Re: AppleLink info needed !!
Organization: Universitaet Kaiserslautern
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:09:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.100547.24228@ousrvr.oulu.fi> pkor@phoenix.oulu.fi
 (Pasi Korhonen) writes:
>	Hiya !
>
>Is there a way to do a 'finger-like' operation on AppleLink. Or some kind of
>database for getting a persons AppleLink ID ?
>
>	pasi
>
Yes, of course!
currently, I'm sitting at a dumb DOS box, thus I'm not sure about the menu, 
but there _is_ a bulletin board allowing you to look up account numbers.
It is database-based, so you shuffle in what you know, and it returns all 
matching items (i.e. addresses). You can even highlight found addresses in 
the returned list and copy them to your local address book.
-Christoph

Christoph P. Sold                   CATS Software GmbH
                                    Mussbacher Landstr.2
sold@kit.uni-kl.de                  W-6730 Neustadt (Weinstrasse)
ger.xse0035@applelink.apple.com     Germany

"If an apple is fun, what the heck is an appletree?"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: wkmpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (W. Keith McManus)
Subject: Magic Modems
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:42:37 GMT

Looking for some information about Magic Modems:

                       Magic VFX FaxModem
                       Magic VFX V.32bis Fax Modem
                       Magic  VX V.32 Modem
                       Magic  VX V.32bis Modem

Supplied by MacPRODUCTS USA  in Austin, TX

Any  information about these products and the supplier  will be most
helpful.

Thanks!!!

W. Keith McManus                           InterNET:
WKMPPH@RITVAX.ISC.RIT.EDU
Rochester Institute of Technology               AOL: KeithRIT
School of Photographic Arts & Sciences
Rochester, New York  14623-0887
From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Virtual memory kills hardware flow control
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:58:40 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <17k506INN184@mohawk.cs.utexas.edu>, newton@cs.utexas.edu (Peter Newton) writes:
> I have been trying to get hardware flow control working between a IIsi
> and a SupraFAX v.32bis modem and have noticed something interesting.
> It appears that when virtual memory is enabled, the Mac no longer
> correctly performs hardware flow control.  I have also observed this
> (but with very limited testing) on a Quadra 700.

I've been using Virtual Memory on a IIsi for some time, and hardware flow
control works fine.

I think your problem lies elsewhere, perhaps in your cable, your modem,
or your machine.

> In case it matters, the IIsi is running 7.0.1 with tuneup and has 5 MB
> RAM.  

I am running System 7.0 with Tuneup 1.1.1 and 5MB.

-- 
Bill Coleman, AA4LR                ! CIS: 76067,2327    AppleLink: D1958
Principal Software Engineer        ! Packet Radio: AA4LR @ W4QO
Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc. ! UUCP: uunet!hayes!bcoleman
POB 105203 Atlanta, GA 30348 USA   ! Internet: bcoleman%hayes@uunet.uu.net
Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: hyongel@cco.caltech.edu (Hyong Chol Lee)
Subject: Where is Telpass?
Keywords: NCSA, Telnet, Telpass
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 08:32:50 GMT

I just ftp'ed a copy of Telnet 2.5. While reading the docs (a first!), I came
on a section which said that I would need to create an encrypted password file
using a program called Telpass which would keep others from ftp'ing to my
machine. It also said that Telpass was part of the Telnet distribution, but it
wasn't included in my copy (came direct from ftp.ncsa.uiuc.edu). Could anyone
tell me where I could find a copy of this program? Thanks in advance!

				- hyong
hyongel@punisher.cco.caltech.edu

From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Call waiting and error-correcting modems
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 11:06:00 -0500

On 8/23/92, Alen Shapiro said to All: 

  >> I've got a supra fax-modem 14.4, and it just blithely ignores the
  >> call-waiting signals... is there any way to make the modem hang up when
  >> it gets one, like with the older modems?
  > 
  > I do not have a supra but have you tried setting the "time-
  > after-carrier-lost-to-hang-up" variable, should be an S register (if
  > you're lucky). You'll have to set it to be a smaller time than the
  > duration of the carrier-disruptive call-waiting beep. 

   Try: ATS10=7

which will set it for 7/10 of a second.  If that doesn't do it, go for a
lower number (say, ATS10=5).
From: bcoleman@hayes.com (Bill Coleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Hayes Optima 144 + fax?
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:10:10 EDT
Organization: Hayes Microcomputer Products, Norcross, GA

In article <185e1lINNmic@network.ucsd.edu>, dpb@sdchemw2.ucsd.edu (Doug P. Book) writes:
> 
> Hayes recently announced their Optima 144 + fax modem.  Has anybody
> gotten one or know where and when they will be available?  I believe
> it's supposed to be priced at around $600 retail, which may be a good
> deal if the street price is a good bit lower.

Should be available Real Soon Now (RSN) through Hayes Dealers. You will
probably also see them in superstores, and through large mail order
houses (PC Connection, PC Warehouse, etc). 

Be warned that the announced product is bundled with PC FAX software,
not Mac FAX software. If you want to use it with a Mac, you can use any
of the fine standalone FAX packages, like FAXstf, but you will have
to purchase them separately.

This may change in the future, any such change has not be announced.

--
Bill Coleman, AA4LR                ! CIS: 76067,2327    AppleLink: D1958
Principal Software Engineer        ! Packet Radio: AA4LR @ W4QO
Hayes Microcomputer Products, Inc. ! UUCP: uunet!hayes!bcoleman
POB 105203 Atlanta, GA 30348 USA   ! Internet: bcoleman%hayes@uunet.uu.net
Disclaimer: "My employer doesn't pay me to have opinions."
Quote: "The same light shines on vineyards that makes deserts." -Steve Hackett.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: j-norstad@nwu.edu (John Norstad)
Subject: Re: NewsWatcher over 9600 bps ARA link
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Northwestern University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 18:24:56 GMT

In article <armand-280892222253@stc201.comm.mot.com>, armand@comm.mot.com
(Arman Dolikian) wrote:
> 
> 
> I have tried launching NewsWatcher 1.3d6 from a Mac at home, connected
> to work using a v.32bis  9600 baud ARA connection.  MacTCP seems to
> load properly,  Telnet works fine,  and I can ping, do domain lookups,
> and set mail using GatorMail Test.  I can even FTP using Fetch-it!  In
> other words,  I feel fairly confident that my TCP/IP connect and configs
> are working.  So....
> 
> When I Launch NewsWatcher,  I get the normal messages  (Opening MacTCP,
> resolving newshost name,  opening connection, and then, the dreaded---
> 
> Getting Full Group List.........
> 
> At this point the beachball steadily rotates,  the Transmit/Receive
> Lights on the modem flash occassionally, and that's as far as I get.
> After 15 minutes of this, I give up.  One magic time,  I was actually
> able to get past this point  (can't repeat it, though).  On that
> one occassion,  once into the newsgroup list, reading, fetching, marking,
> articles was VERY speedy, almost indestinguishable from local operation.
> 
> Is there some reason why getting the full group list sub-protocol is
> such a weak link in operation when the NNTP connection is slow?  I've
> also seen the same symptoms on Macs on LocalTalk behind "busy" GatorBoxes
> or many hops away from the NNTP newshost.
> 
> Any suggestions?  Explanations?   Work-arounds?
> Has anyone else experienced this?

Yes, everyone else using a slow connection like ARA or SLIP has noticed
this.

The problem is that the full group list is very long, and it takes a long
time to fetch it on a slow connection. (It's about 90K of data here at NU,
for example.)

For example, in my tests of version 1.3d6 using MacSLIP with a V.42 bis
modem, it took over a minute to fetch the full group list.

We will be implementing a fix for this problem in a future version. See the
NewsWatcher 1.3d6 To Do list for details.

John Norstad
Academic Computing and Network Services
Northwestern University
j-norstad@nwu.edu
From: wbaker@sd-wbaker.jsc.nasa.gov (Bill Baker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Old Kinetics "LANRANGER" software
Date: 1 Sep 1992 20:04:12 GMT
Organization: Loral Aerospace, NASA/JSC

I purchased a FASTPATH-4 when it was being sold by Kinetics Inc.  At that
time they provided a floppy with not only the FASTPATH Manager software
but also a package called LANRANGER.  I had installed LANRANGER on our MAC
for sometime and used it regularly.  I recently upgraded from 6.0.3 to
6.0.7 MAC/OS and found that the LANRANGER was asking that I reinstall or
update the software.  They provide an update program, but it calls for an
offset which I suspect will also be required when I try to reinstall the
product.  Anyone have the offsets (formal Kinetics Engineers????) for this
LANRANGER product.

Please note that I have already called SHIVA, and they don't even know what
the LANRANGER product is, and keep getting it confused with their new
LAN-ROVER product.  I really liked the LANRANGER product because it gave a
very nice graphical representation of the Network topology.

Bill Baker
NASA/JSC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm