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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Cocaine
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:20:18 GMT

In article <BvGMvL.LGD@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, cbsmith@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Smith) writes:
>Hi there, could someone post me this newsgroups FAQ or answer me this question about cocaine:

There isn't much on milton.u.washington.edu about cocaine; just some
references and directions for freebasing and nasal-spraying.

>I have a friend who has used cocaine twice, and both times reported *no effect*
>despite taking "resonable" quantities. Now, first of all I'm wondering if this
>is realistic, or if it was maybe just cheap cocaine. Secondly, I'm curious about
>the *real* consequences of cocaine use. Just how dangerous is it? What ill
>effects can one expect? I've heard everything to relatively harmless until you
>are addicted to deadly to brain damage do to dedrite problems, and frankly I
>don't know what to believe.

There is fake cocaine out there (lidocaine is one chemical).  It tends to
impress people who are used to good coke (due to the strong cocaine taste),
but it does not produce a high.  My guess is that your friend is getting
ripped off.

Like alcohol, cocaine in moderation is not very dangerous.  But if you
multiply the dosage by ten, you can wind up in the hospital or in the morgue
(like alcohol).  The main dangers are 

    1.  Becoming addicted
    2.  Becoming a victim of the War on Some Drugs

It is a highly addictive drug.  It releases dopamine in the brain, producing
an energetic euphoria (high), which is followed by a sullen depression (low).
I can see why somebody would want to try it, but IMHO it would be a real
waste to use it on a regular basis -- kind of like paying for a tasty meal
which you must later regurgitate.

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From: dlaird@terapin.com (Delbert Laird)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Psilocybe Cubensis
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:21:50 PST
Organization: BBS

What are the suggested doses for Ps. Cubensis?  I realize that fresh mushrooms
have greater weight due to water content, yet nothing I've read informs me
roughly how many grams need to be ingested to gain any affect.  (We all know
that Ps. Cubensis, along with most Psilocybian mushrooms have varying degrees
of effectiveness).

While I have taken dried mushrooms, can fresh mushrooms be cooked (sauted)
without losing potency (in so long as the juices are consumed as well)?

Any information that can be given is invaluable to me.

dlaird@terapin.com
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From: jcollier@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: LSD recipies
Date: 26 Sep 92 08:07:05 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

In <DGD.92Sep25202002@csd.bu.edu> dgd@csd.bu.edu (David Durand) writes:
>Note that 30ug is a
>"threshold dose" (ie you notice that something's happening) and at
>50-60 you can get noticable effects. The _heroic_ 60's style
>death/rebirth and see god dose was 250ug -- pretty much the maximum
>effect is reached here: more only makes the trip longer (to a point).

I had the good fortune to be able to experiment with effectively
unlimited amounts of LSD that was properly measured for dose
many years ago. I found that 20 ug was _always_ noticeable, 
and 10 to 15 ug sometimes was. I needed generally twice the
250 ug threshold to get psychedelic rather than psycholytic effects, 
but I have known people to have full-blown hallucinations with
amounts of LSD that just make my mind a bit looser, and make me
perceive colours, outlines, etc. more sharply. Unless dose have
increased a lot recently, I would say that about 100 ug was the US
norm for the 80's. In the early 70's 200 ug was much more common.
In the late 60's, up to 750 ug was not uncommon. Since the major
cost of LSD is in distribution, dose size is not an economic factor
except that it is bad business to have your customers freaking out.

I find the effects of LSD increase in intensity, both qualitatively
and quantitatively to about 750 ug. More is wasted. Other people may
have different thresholds, and, on my experience, do.

I believe that LSD should be legalised for use in special centres
with properly trained staff. This was Leary's original idea. He 
changed his mind because of government hysteria and promiscuous 
use on the US West Coast. I think he made a mistake. It is too
late to go back now, though. I hope some intelligent people
can take us forward.



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Subject: Re: N2O (i.e.Kidde whippets)
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 07:48:39 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <BvK4Gn.MHn@nic.umass.edu> AAT@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (Gus Trautweiler) writes:
>The N2O buzz is caused by lack of O2 in the brain 

Wrong.  Stick to plants.

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From: ap.5478@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: [anonymous] Anonymous posting: 2-CB anyone?
Keywords: anonymous
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:10:43 GMT
Reply-To: ap.5478@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu


     I'm writing on behalf of a friend (of course!), who was interested in
a drug called 2-CB, especially it's subjective effects, likely impurities
on the black market, and a little about it's chemistry. (Basically
everyting, I guess, but particularly subjectives, and dangers...)  If 
anyone's heard about it, I(we)'s be grateful.

      I don't know anything about it, but he says he's heard people tell him
it's just the greatest, while others have said it was a nightmare.  Thanks...



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From: aras@athena.mit.edu
Subject: Re: LSD-25
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:29:06 GMT


I would assume you would feel something by taking just a quarter hit...
...but then again, it really depends on how far you want to go with a
drug like LSD.  The first time I really enjoyed it ( 2 hits ) but one
of my friends couldn't truly understand the great pleasure I got from
LSD until he took about 6 hits with me.  It varies from person to person.
If you're in the right surroundings, you will notice and enjoy :)

Shell
From: jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:10:26 GMT
Organization: Microdata Oy

dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:

>at one atmosphere.  Nitrogen at high pressures, such as are seen in deep-
>sea diving, demonstrates far different physical properties as far as its
>lipid solubility.  This is the cause of nitrogen narcosis.  Xenon, an
>inert gas, is an anesthetic at ordinary atmospheres.

   I stand corrected. So, does nitrous oxide dissolve in the brain as N O
or is it converted to N ?                                              2 
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From: bx461@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Leo J. Mauler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Spearmint Highs
Date: 30 Sep 1992 02:17:36 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I don't have much of a green thumb, so much of my garden is
composed of plants normally classified as weeds, but most of
those weeds were planted by me for food crops.  Such as
spearmint, which grows so well under neglect you almost have to
actively destroy it to keep it from growing!  ;-)

Anyway, I've taken to eating it as a breath freshener, since I
don't mind the intense natural minty taste.  Occasionally a
greedy thought hits me, and I will consume a large portion of
spearmint plant.

I've noticed shortly thereafter a short, intense high, which 
leaves me reeling as if I had just sucked a balloon of nitrous.
Am I getting just a shot of endorphins, is there really
something else in mint, or am I just as weird as everyone says I
am?

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From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Cocaine
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 18:35:45 GMT
Organization: Charnel House

cbsmith@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Smith) writes:
: 
: I have a friend who has used cocaine twice, and both times reported
: *no effect* despite taking "resonable" quantities. Now, first of all
: I'm wondering if this is realistic, or if it was maybe just cheap
: cocaine. Secondly, I'm curious about the *real* consequences of cocaine
: use. Just how dangerous is it? What ill effects can one expect? I've
: heard everything to relatively harmless until you are addicted to
: deadly to brain damage do to dedrite problems, and frankly I don't
: know what to believe.

Back while I was in college I had free and easy access to coke and
I tried it on a few occasions without getting much of anything from
it; a little lift but really nothing when I compared it to the cost of
the damn stuff.  I got it basically uncut; I know it was extremely
good coke, and other friends got quite an effect from it.  I've met
a few other people who had the same experience I did, so it would seem
that some people just don't get much from it.  I had the same experience
when trying speed -- likewise I don't get any noticeable lift from
caffeine.  It's possible that some people just aren't affected much
by these things, though I'm no medical expert.  Anyone have some
theories or opinions?

Regarding the consequences, they vary a lot, because things like
addiction are very personal.  I knew a lot of people who used coke
back in college (our dorm was sort of drug central), and for the
most part of course no damage was done.  On the other hand, I knew
one friend who flunked out because of her coke use, and ended up
owing other friends a whole lot of money.  There's no doubt in my
mind that some people have a distinct tendency towards becoming
addicted to these things.  The problem is there's no way of knowing
beforehand, I suppose.  Coke seems to be a lot easier to avoid
addiction to than speed in my experience simply because it's so
expensive.  I've known people who probably would have kept using it
except it was just too costly for them, and oddly enough that made it
easier to let go of.

As far as medical problems as a result of the use, I've never known
anyone who suffered any, but again, I'm no medical expert.


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From: ap.5452@cupid.sai.com (Anonymous)
Subject: [anonymous] testing
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
Reply-To: ap.5452@cupid.sai.com
Organization: Somewhere
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 08:22:11 GMT


	I'm testing the trouble wither dollar signs:

	5 (25 dollars)
	25 (25)
	,343 (5,343 dollars)

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From: v094px3a@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Brian Mauger)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Mescaline- question
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:32:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>Hey there- a friend of mine is one of those nature-freaks (you know the type)
>8^) and interested in doing mescaline, but hasn't been able to find any info on
>it.  He is curious as to what mescaline is made of, if it's a derivative of
>something, and what the affects are.
>
>A FOAF told me that the effects are similiar to acid, but not as harsh (esp the
>crash) and that mescaline was a peyote derivative.  Is this true?

Mesecaline comes from several varities of cacti, including peyote.  It CAN be 
synthesized, but I'm not familiar with the procedure.  The alt.drugs FAQ has
some good info on mescaline, and the Natural Highs FAQ lists a place which 
sells various types of cacti.  

From what I understand, the effects are similar to acid, but I have no 
experience from which to speak.  I'm not sure about the "crash" you mentioned
form acid, though.  Its never happened to m-my friends, yeah, that's the ticket!

>Shane

Hope this helps!
From: davidc@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (David Cake)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: N2O (i.e.Kidde whippets)
Date: 5 Oct 92 05:05:35 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: tartarus.uwa.edu.au

>it's worth the wait and much safer.  Remember N2O blocks O2 reception so
							^^^^^ this is
not correct!! Nitrous Oxide does not block O2 reception significantly,
particularly it does not bind with hemoglobin.
>a strap on mask should never be used.   The Dentist uses N2O in conjunction
  ^^^ a strap on mask should not be used unless you have a regulator so
that you get an N2O/O2 mix like a dentist, because you will forget to
take it off. Keep to at least 35% O2 for no longer than jalf an hour if
you want to use a regulator (and that 35% is pure O2 not air), is the
recomendation of anaesthetists and dentists.
>with O2 to keep you just out of conciousness.  The N2O buzz is caused by
    ^^^ he uses N2O + O2 because N2O has no major effect on oxygen
consumption, so you need about 35% same as normal.
>lack of O2 in the brain so remember, have fun AND safety first! 
   ^^^^^^No No NO! Why don't you get wildly high from holding your
breath? N2O is a general anaesthetic, and works like other general
anaesthetics, which means no-one is sure of the exact mechanism, but it
not to do with lack of oxygen (many of them are non-gaseous for a
start).
	Ask someone knowledgeable or go to a medical library for more
information (and look up anaesthetics).

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From: bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Attention Nederlaender
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:29:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I am going to be in Holland soon and I need to know the current
situation regarding marijuana stock cultivators in the country.
No, I'm not asking for any illegal help.  I just want to know if
there are any places like the Seed Bank or SSSC still operating and
how to get ahold of them.  So if any of our Nederaender brethren in
the know would drop me a line, I'd sure appreciate it.  Thanks.
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From: thales@netcom.com (-}{-)
Subject: kava kava
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:16:43 GMT

Has anyone had anu interesting experiences with kava kava?? is so in what 
way did you prepare it....I boiled 2 oz in a quart of water and then let
ferment for 1.5 days or so....i found it interesting and pleasent....
any other comments???

i didnt see kava kava in the FAQ...is it not considered active enough?
and i've also heard that it can cause liver poisoning in a vary bad 
way.....



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From: eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: Cocaine
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date:  2 Oct 92 20:56:01 GMT

n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:

>	I hear so much disagreement on the mechanism of cocaine that
>I wonder if anybody knows for sure.   Dopamine reuptake inhibition is
>one theory, but smack is dopamine related.  A cocaine high is nothing
>like a narcotic high at all.  

What do you mean "dopamine related"?  Opiates may have indirect effects 
on dopaminergic pathways, however their common spectrum of action is 
due entirely to agonist activity at specific opioid receptors.  I can
think of no opiate that has appreciable cross reactivity with dopamine 
receptors.  

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From: djh@osc.edu (David Heisterberg)
Subject: Re: Cocaine
Organization: The Ohio Supercomputer Center
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 12:44:38 GMT

In article <BvGMvL.LGD@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> cbsmith@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Chris Smith) writes:
>I have a friend who has used cocaine twice, and both times reported *no effect*
>despite taking "resonable" quantities. Now, first of all I'm wondering if this
>is realistic, or if it was maybe just cheap cocaine. Secondly, I'm curious about

Could be bad coke, but I must have tried it half a dozen times without
"getting off", while friends doing the same toot were very pleased indeed.
Now after that initial period I had no problems.  I also tried MDA twice
and got zero, nothing, nada; again, other people did some from the same
batch and had no complaints.

>the *real* consequences of cocaine use. Just how dangerous is it? What ill effects can one expect? I've heard everything to relatively harmless until you are addicted to deadly to brain damage do to dedrite problems, and frankly I don't know what to believe.

I've never known anyone who did coke heavily who did not screw themselves
up to some extent.  But last I heard most had gotten back on track.  Then
I know people who've done coke occasionally for years and are no worse
for it.  Cocaine is risky.  But then what isn't?  You make the call.
But personally I don't think one is missing anything by not doing coke.
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From: civl097@csc.canterbury.ac.nz
Subject: Re: caffeine
Organization: University of Canterbury, Christchurch, New Zealand
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:16:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.152056.1499@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Danny) writes:
> does anyone have a list of the relative amounts of caffiene in
> 
> mountain dew
> coke
> pepsi
> coffee
> etc.
> 
> 
> thanks, 
> 
> -- Danny
> 
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From misc.kids a few weeks back:-

amy@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Amy McNulty) writes:
]Well, I suppose it was predictable that someone would post this  
]request, so here it is. Does anyone know the typical caffeine  
]quantities (e.g., cup of coffee or tea, can of coke, etc.)?

SOURCE: Pregnancy and Childbirth, Hotchner:

                           Milligrams of caffeine
coffee (5 oz.):
automatic drip                     110-150
Percolated                         64-124
Instant                            40-108
Decaffeinated                      2-5

Tea:
brewed 5 minutes (5 oz.)           20-50
Iced in can (12 oz.)               22-36

Soft Drinks (12 oz.):
Mountain Dew                       54
Coke, Tab, Diet Coke               46
Pepsi, Dr. Pepper                  38
Pepsi LIght, RC, Diet Rite         36
Ginger Ale, 7up, Orange,     
  Sprite, Fresca, root beer,
  Canada Dry diet cola             0

Chocolate:
Milk chocolate (1 oz.)             6
Baking chocolate (1 oz.)           35
Cocoa beverage (6 oz.)             10

Nonprescription drugs (1 tablet):
Aspirin                            0
Anacin                             32
Midol                              32
Excedrin                           65
No Doz                             100
Dexatrim                           200

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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: pseudoephedrine
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 <1992Sep28.041847.15655@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 03:11:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.041847.15655@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> s8818037@spectru
.cs.unsw.oz.au (Matthew James Leayr) writes:
>
>
> 	I seem to remember someone saying that methamphetamine can be produced
>from ephedrine (?). Is the same true of pseudoephedrine???
>would it be a complex conversion?
>
>just wondering....
>
>Matt.


 The reaction works the same for pseudoephedrine and ephedrine. Perhaps it
may procede a little faster with the isomer that is less hindered. I don't
think there is very much hindrance to beg9in with though...

St. Anthony

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From: jcollier@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Nitrous Oxide
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:36:28 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne, Australia

In <9q1XRB2w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> zane@infopls.chi.il.us (Sameer Parekh) writes:

>	'Lo, a friend is interested in the dangers involved with Nitrous
>Oxide.  I know that there are some dangers and precautions that must be
>taken, but all I can remember is that you shouldn't inhale directly out
>of the pressurized tank.

Also, don't do it in a car with closed windows. Two kids died
20 years ago in New Jersey pulling this stunt. Rare indeed, but
something of which to be aware.
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