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From: rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I bought the '92 Ducati 900SS :-) :-)
Date: 21 Jan 93 12:18:18
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org's message of 20 Jan 93 20:48:29 GMT

>>>>> On 20 Jan 93 20:48:29 GMT, cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) said:

cookson> In article <1jk69rINNnfe@lynx.unm.edu> starr@carina.unm.edu
cookson> (Gregory Starr ME.DEPT) writes:

cookson> Naw, I'm buying myself a new VFR soon, but I'm keeping the
cookson> CB750 to give to my Dad as his first bike..  Now, don't you
cookson> wish you had me for a kid? 

If you give the bike to me, I promise to play catch with you every
Sunday! and won't make you go to bed early, and will let you go out on
weekdays, and whatever a boy wants from his _father_!
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From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine......whimper!
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:10:36 GMT
Organization: Fulcrum Communications

In article <1993Jan20.154406.4372@gdr.bath.ac.uk> bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland) writes:
>In the referenced article, randy@megatek.com writes:
>>
>>  It ain't the bike, its the rider, as you well know.  And ZX-11's are NOT
>>only fast on a straight road...
>
>
>I know a guy I Aberdeen, he has an old GS550.  No way would I _ever_ want to
>have to outrun him on any sort of twisty road.
>
I agree.

In fact, it's more like it's nearly *all* the rider, not the bike,
nowadays, since most modern bikes have competant handling and road
surfaces are very smooth.

I have a relatively old litre bike (7 years old - but designed about
20 years ago!), and some days I whip a brand new EXUP, another day
some wee runt on a TZR250 goes underneath my elbow at twice my speed.

I reckon the only things left to discuss, on *road* bikes, are:
	looks
	pose value	(this includes *theoretical* top speeds!)
	comfort
	cost/depreciatation

The following are automatic:
	speed
	handling

Example:
How many people regularly top 120 mph?		Very few indeed.
How many bikes can exceed 120 mph?		Most 250cc +.

I rest rest my case...

Regards,
============================================================================
Richard Taylor                  DoD #981                 (rct@fulcrum.co.uk)
Deceleration Trauma - hitting the ground after jumping off Canary Wharf.
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
From: tcora@pica.army.mil (Tom Coradeschi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ZX-11 Transmission Update / More Corporate Interaction
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:45:36 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: usa
Organization: Elect Armts Div, US Army Armt RDE Ctr, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

In article <1993Jan26.120411.24491@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>,
fist@iscp.bellcore.com (Richard Pierson) wrote:
> 
> Dealers will always blame the owner for problems unless it
> is VERY obvious. Back in 73 I bought a Vega GT and loved it
[...]
> It took me 10 years to buy a GM product again and I still havent
> touched QUAKER STATE products and will in fact go out of
> my way to avoid QUAKER STATE, GOODRICH, FIRESTONE and
> oxygenated fuels. 

But tell us, Rich: How do you really feel?

                tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Re: Motorcycle workstands
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:28:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.012212.3520@nevada.edu>, nhodge@nevada.edu (nhodge@nevada.edu (Neil Hodge)) writes:
|> I am wondering if there is a way to use a regular floor jack to lift my 
|> motorcycle for certain maintenance.  If not, which motorcycle workstands are
|> good quality and do they lift up the rear wheel, front wheel, or other part of
|> the bike.

to do THE REPAIR on my bike i just screwed 2 2x10's together 
wiggled them between the roof supports, covered it with
carpet in the middle, throw a chain over the carpeted area
and hook a come-along to the chain....instant bike hoist for
about $30. with a bit of re-enforcement it could even hold a 
goldwing (ie the chain and 2x10 not the come-along). at some
point further in the repairs i intend to get another one for
the front end.


laz
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Cliff Weston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: A More Strident DoD Watch Call for Orders IV
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:09:42 GMT
Followup-To: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.virginia.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Virginia
Originator: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU


Rec.motorcycles inhabitants:

As everyone is by now acutely aware, I am soliciting checks for the DoD
Watches, to be ordered Monday, 08 February (NEW DATE, previously the 28th of
January).  When I had trolled for interest, I got it to the tune of 78 Watches.
Since calling for actual bucks, I've received only 45 Watches worth of funds;
moreover, half of these are from people who did not respond to the original
"Are you interested?" articles, leaving some 50 potential customers curiously
silent.  Consider this your "ping", guys/gals.

The $25 US price is based on a minimum of 50 Watches ordered; a lower quantity
translates to a higher price.  My options were to raise the price (bad), cancel
the entire project (badder), or delay the order until the Magic Fifty is
obtained (least of evils).  I'd put the order in sooner than the 8th, but I'm
out of the country as of this Friday afternoon and won't be back until late on
the 5th.  **If this arrangement is unsatisfactory to anyone who has already
sent me a check, email me ASAP to discuss options.**

The rest of you, please send either (1)a big check or (2)email telling me
you're no longer interested.  Those of you who are now newly-interested, send
a *huge* check.  The address:

                        Cliff Weston
                        Box 440, Jordan Hall, UVA
                        Charlottesville VA 22908


Thank you, everyone who has sent money/emailed telling me money was on the way.
If you're not sure your check will make it here by the 8th, email me and I'll
order you the Watch on faith.  I'm a nice guy, really -- ask my Mom.


Check confirmation messages have bounced to GLENN SCHMALL and CHARLES PRESTON.
Actually, I lost Charlie's mailpath :-(.



Cliff Weston
DoD# 0598
------------------------
I love the DoD Watch.
The DoD Watch is my friend.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mbeaving@bnr.ca (The Beav)
Subject: Re: Diet Coke, Official drink of DoD?!?
Reply-To: MBEAVING@BNR.CA
Organization: BNR Ottawa, DMS Software Design
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:51:23 GMT

Diet Coke...Ack, gag, ack! Nutrisweet tastes like rat vomit.  

I agree what others where saying about beer, but we should
still have the Official Riding Beverage of the DoD.  Of course
the obvious choice is Jolt Cola. As the Jolt cans say,

'All the Sugar and Twice the Caffeine as the Leading Cola!'

or on the 2 litre bottle,

'Dare to want it all!'

I can just see the commercial.  Two guys sitting on their bikes.
One guy's eyes, hands and legs are vibrating.

first guy: 'My body just won't stop shaking'.

Second Guy:  'Long ride?'

first guy: 'Nope, haven't started yet.  I'm just getting ready
            by fueling up my body with (product shot) this great
            new JOLT COLA'.

Second Guy: 'What's so great about Jolt Cola?'

first guy: 'This stuff is so rad, you'll stay awake for hours
            canyon burning with enough caffeine and sugar to
            make you believe your bike is faster than anything 
            else on the road.'

Second Guy: 'Cool.  Hey let me try some!'

Announcer: 'Jolt! Dare to want it all!'




=============================================================================
= The Beav |Mike Beavington|BellNorthernResearch Ottawa,Ont,Canada| Dod:9733=
= Seca 400->Seca 400->RZ350->Seca750->Suzuki550->Seca650turbo->V65Sabre     =
= (-> 1994 GTS1000 ...can't afford the '93) |  mbeaving@bnr.ca              =
= Parking spaces? We don't need no steenkin' parking spaces!                =
=============================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: prange@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Henry Prange)
Subject: Re: Are BMWs form or function?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:59:17 GMT

John,

When I bought my '92 GS, I wanted to add some, but not all, of the PD equipment. Electrically, that meant heated grips. Before my 600 mile service, I installed a Bosch fog light on the left side crash bar (this was less for foggy riding
and more for the conspicuity of having a light in an odd position for oncoming
traffic to notice). I had a relay and wanted to use the other switch position
in the instrument cluster, so I asked the mechanic to install it during the
service. While lounging around the showroom I decided to buy and electric vest.
When I mentioned this to the mechanic, he volunteered to put a higher rated
voltage regulator on as a "warranty" item. He said I would soon complain that
the battery didn't stay charged and he might as well replace it now as later.

I have the part number, as best I could decipher it from the service record. It
is 123212441737. It would have made more sense to me to install a higher output
alternator but so far, my battery has stayed charged with the setup I have. 

Let me know if I can give you any more info.

Ride grinnin'

Henry
From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Its off to the basement we go
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:57:54 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Bennett Lee Leve (bleve@hoggle2.uucp) wrote:
: Boy am I glad that I live in Florida.  I have never tried stairs
: with my Sabre, but I have had to move it into a moving truck once.
                                                 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Best to wait until the truck (lorry) has stopped moving.  You don't have to 
run so fast then....


: It was a last minute thing, so I did not have any wood to make a
: ramp.  It took 6 people to get it into the truck and the same 6 to
: get it out again.  That really sucked.  

: It probably still weighs greater than 400 pounds though.  I would
: think that you should have some plan for getting it out before
: bringing it in.  
:--
: |Bennett Leve

I once did this with my RD350B.  I went down backwards, using the brakes.  I
had my girl/wife/divorcee-friend help me from falling sideways, she stood 
behind and a bit to one side.

Getting back up was a problem.  We ended up using a rope and a car.  Figure the
configuration out yourself...


Nick (the Vertically Challenged Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford


M'Lud.
From: raford@uk.oracle.com (Roger Ford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Tyres for an EXUP?
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:48:55 GMT
Organization: Oracle UK
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

Anyone have any recommendations for tyres (or even tires, if you must)
for a 1990 Exup?  Grip is (much) more important than wear.  Most people
recommend Michelin Hi-Sports, but a magazine long-term test reckoned 
that they made the front-end twitchy.  They recommended Metzeler Comp-K,
but so far as I can see, you can't get radials in that compound.

Don't know whether US tire compounds are the same as UK tyre compounds - 
so I'm especially interested in comments from anyone on our Great and
Wonderful Island (the one where it rains all the time).

Roger Ford,
Oracle UK       
raford@uk.oracle.com

DoD #778    '90 Exup, '78 Guzzi Le Mans II, '90 KR1-S, '90 KMX-200
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Ryan's at it again.  was Re: How to join the DoD
Summary: get the net, Freddie!
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:47:26 GMT
Organization: Why do you suspect that?

Earlier, labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill) splattered the net with:
>
>	I'm must apologise and pity the mail you are about to receive
>	form Charlie..
>	
>			Ryan
>			DoD #0780.

20 Questions of the moment ...

Why is Ryan apologising on the net?
Is Ryan threatening me with mail?   
Is Ryan telling someone I use 'form'?
Is Ryan telling someone I have 'form'?
Is Ryan telling someone I have good 'form'?
Did Ryan originate this all by himself?
What was Ryan trying to reply to?


Hmmmmm.  I can't figure out if this deserves a flame or a thank you ...

Bare minimum, the penalty for doing an apology on the net, in public,
in front of thousands of DoD'ers, is awsome to behold!   I don't think
Ryan remembered the fine print in the DoD FAQ that strongly advised 
against apology!   Said something about being strong enough to stand up
irregardless of what you said/did/stepped-in.

I think we'd better send Ryan a copy of the DoD FAQ, so's he can go back
and re-read that part!    ;-)

Just to make sure he gets at least *one* copy, probably several of us
better send it to him ...    you know how stuff gets lost on the net!



Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
  DoD #0709   doh #0000000004  &  AMA, MOA, RA, Buckey Beemers, BK Ohio V
                BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R27, Triumph TR6
                          Columbus, Ohio USA
From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Diet Coke, Official drink of DoD?!?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:30:09 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Cookson (cookson@mbunix.mitre.org) wrote:
: Curtis Jackson wibbled:
: >
: >Hey, wait a minute! This is a diverse world-wide group of many nations,
: >many personalities, many races, creeds, colors, and sexual perversions!
: >To limit ourselves to a single beverage for all: "a nice pint of stout"
: >would be a travesty! Think of the power of diversity, man!
: >
: >I, for example, would rather have a nice pint of porter. Well, stout
: >would do nicely, of course. Or a good Scottish ale. Or....

: Ok, now we're talking.  I know, well kill two birds with one stone.
: All of us North American DoD'er will fly across the pond, and conduct
: our UK vs. US health system flame war in person, over several nice pints.

: -- 
: | Dean Cookson | DoD #207  AMA #573534

First round's on me.

6Xs all round.


Cheers!


Nick (the Wadworth's Biker)   DoD 1069  Concise Oxford


M'Hic!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Subject: Re: Backed into
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 09:31:43 GMT

>In article <1993Jan20.203212.28173@cheshire.oxy.edu>, pursell@cheshire.oxy.edu (William Robert Pursell) writes:
>>   Yesterday a guy backed into me.  My front
>> fender was mangled and the front tire was
>> flattened.  Anyway, I took the fender off
>> and the tire holds air OK, but the steering 
>> isn't quite straight (bars angles slightly
>> to the right when riding in a straight line)
>>   Any suggestions on straightening the steering
>> head, and more importantly what to look for in
>> terms of possible damage (i.e. might cause the
>> bike to be unsafe)?  

Sod the handlebars, just make sure the forks are parallel. If not,
then loosen the yokes, straighten them up, and retighten. If in the
unlikely event that an individual fork isn't straight, then start
crying, and saving up.

Don't forget to check the wheel is still round, and it's not got
cracks in the rim or spokes (especially if it's alloy).

Regards,
============================================================================
Richard Taylor                  DoD #981                 (rct@fulcrum.co.uk)
Deceleration Trauma - hitting the ground after jumping off Canary Wharf.
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: REQ: Who Am I?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:38:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.184628.6135@crd.ge.com> sprattli@azores.crd.ge.com (Rod Sprattling) writes:
>Quite some time ago I joined the DoD, but have
>been away from rec.motorcycles for a while
>and have lost my membership number.  Who's the
>O-fishal Keeper of the Membership Roster?
>
>Rod
>---
>Roderick Sprattling		| 
>sprattli@azores.crd.ge.com	| Where there's a will, there's a lawyer.

Read the Fag Newbie.
 
Just Kiddin.
Your DoD# is 0132
 
The Kotl is Scott Pace and don't call her Shirley.
 
================================================================================
 Steatopygias's 'R' Us.          doh#0000000005 That ain't no Hottentot.
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. AMA#669373 DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Subject: Re: Police blame BMW
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:36:54 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.233948.10146@triage.UUCP> chris@triage.UUCP (Groucho) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.105744.26127@galadriel.bt.co.uk> ant@galadriel.bt.co.uk (Antony Espindola) writes:
>>I was readin in the national press over the weekend about how the
>>Police are blaming BMW for the numerous accidents happening due to
>>the 'wobble and weave' effect.
>
>Isn't this the reason God gave us Ducatis, Laverdas, and Moto Guzzis, that
>is to say, to eliminate the aforementioned effect?  The Germans never could
>make their bikes handle.  Still can't, from what I can tell.  Oh sorry.
>Someone says the price of the bike and "superior" engineering indicate 
>otherwise?  Silly me...  B-)

Now we're talking. the Italians used (maybe still do?) Laverdas as pig
bikes.

Mmm, then again so did Kuwait, and look what happened to them...


Regards,
============================================================================
Richard Taylor                  DoD #981                 (rct@fulcrum.co.uk)
"I just need enough to tide me over until I need more."		- Bill Hoest
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.
From: tjohnson@anyway.prime.com (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Definitive HD TV/Vid Authorized Collectible
Date: 28 Jan 93 13:47:14 GMT
Reply-To: tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317)
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

In article <1993Jan26.020729.28601@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>
> (A sarcastic description of an HD military bike deleted for good reason)
>
>- )V(ark)<  FZR400 Pilot / ZX900 Payload / RD400 Mechanic  DoD #400

Mr. Kramer;

	First, let me say that we have no time here for senseless drible.
This is a busy group and we prefer to hear information relevant to the
motorcycling industry, not some fabricated illusions you have about your
favorite topics. 

	Second, Harley Davidson is one of the few companies that have ever
been bestowed with the Army/Navy E award for excellence during military
crisis. Not to mention that the first American to enter the liberated Germany
after WWI was on a Harley. They provided casings during WW II, at a cost of
over half of their own production. I could go on for days here.

	And third, let me remind you that the only thing the US government
has ever awarded a Jap motorcycle company (all of them actually), was a
substantial allotment of surpluss government cheese. It was stinkin up the 
joint and the Japs use it to manufacture over 60% of the internal motor
parts for their bikes.***

Thank-you;

Tod J. Johnson
DoD #883
"Go Slow, Take Geritol"

*** The mention of this fact has been well documented as truth here at
    rec.motorcycles. See articles 98236338 and 62723903 for reference.
    (the author(s) of these articles shall remain nameless for personal
    reasons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett Lee Leve)
Subject: Re: Its off to the basement we go: to Ben in florida
	<1993Jan26.142435.7724@linus.mitre.org>
	<1k49m2INNsql@sumax.seattleu.edu> <1993Jan27.142702.9879@bnr.ca>
Organization: Starved Photo-Linux Hackers Association
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:06:11 GMT
Distribution: na

Well, it sounds like you are going to have fun.  If you have any
questions, you can point them my way.  I have done a lot of internal 
work on the Honda V-4s.  Mostly on the V65 Sabre, but many others as
well.  I have also replaced my forks seals several times, as it seems
they are only good for about 30,000 miles.  I've put over 100,000 miles
on 2 seperate Sabres.  My first one I sold with 72,000 miles on it, 
and it still ran perfectly.  

Hope you do not run into to much time or cost.  
--





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|Bennett Leve    84 V-65 Sabre            |   mov        ah, 04Ch     |
|Orlando, FL                              |   mov        al, 0        |
|hoggle!hoggle2!bleve@peora.sdc.ccur.com  |   int        021h         |
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-- 




Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: kenk@sdc.com (Ken Konecki)
Subject: Toys
Summary: Childhood revisited
Keywords: youth
Organization: Systems Development Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:56:51 GMT

Whilst playing with a Hot Wheels motorcycle that Santa Claus
brought to our 21 month old son, I got to reminiscing about some
of the motorcycle toys I played with as a youth.  I have two
remembrances:

    A battery powered dark blue machine with a rider permanently
    molded in black plastic into a sitting position.  He was
    removable from the bike but as he was in a permanent crouch,
    it was rather pointless.  As I recall, the bike didn't track
    straight lines very well, but I loved it anyway.

    The infamous Evel Knievel stunt bike.  Man, that thing was
    great.  I got it to the point where it would wheelie all the
    way down the driveway (about 30 or 40 feet).  As I recall, I
    also had the travel camper and used to jump Evel over it, and
    when cooperative, the family dog too (the dog didn't like it
    too much when Evel didn't quite make it over him).  I have
    no idea how the bike managed to stay together after being
    crashed as many times as it was.

The Hot Wheels bike is kind of fun, although not nearly as fun
as the Evel Knievel bike.  It's hot pink and strongly resembles
a K75S.  My son loves to watch it scoot across the kitchen floor.

Any else remember fun toys from their youth?

Cheers,
    -Ken K 
-- 
Ken Konecki
e-mail:kenk@sdc.com    -or-    ...!uunet!tellab5!sdc!kenk
"Getting an inch of snow is like winning 10 cents in the lottery"
From: dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR900RR
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:19:52 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command


I was reading, somewhere, I don't remember, that the CBR900RR got better
gas mileage than the CBR600F2.  Any comments?

Also, what's the time between servicing on both bikes?

---
Slowly thinking about a possible future steed . . . 


-- 
I hate the 3B2
The 3B2 can bite me.