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From: msardar@digi.lonestar.org (Mohammed Tariq Sardar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: SARFRAZ KNEW IT ALL
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:31:33 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications, Plano Tx.



While back, i remember reading either in the CRICKETER or the  book
by Imran Khan that Sarfraz Nawaz could tell from a box full of new balls
which one will swing more( i'm not sure whether it said the ball will
respond to inswing more then outswing or not). As a rule of thumb, the 
Pakistani captain allway asked Sarfraz to select the new ball out of 
the box in test matches.

In one particular test match, i belive it was against Australia, the Pakistani 
bowlers had the Aussie pinned down around 150+ for 6 when Mushtaq Mohammed who 
was the skipper at the time decided to take a new ball against the wishes of 
Sarfraz, the final score was 370+ and every body blamed Mustaq for not listening
to Sarfraz.

Can some one on the net please confirm this story, also is it possible to 
tell whether a new ball will swing more in the later overs or not.

My technique of getting late swing in the English conditions was by

1  Keep the polished side on the inside for inswinger

2  keep the index and the middle fingers on the seam, BUT extend them
   more inward, i.e if you are trying to rap your fingers around the ball.
   If you happened to have long fingers then you could do wonders with the ball.

3  Shoulder movement and body positioning allway played a major part for both
   in and out swing.




						     Tariq Sardar
From: 92ali@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Mushtaq sets for Somerset
Date: 15 Aug 92 18:01:13 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Aug14.084938@is.morgan.com>, andyc@is.morgan.com (Andrew Coad) writes:
> In article <14AUG199208271446@vxcrna.cern.ch>, hasan@vxcrna.cern.ch  writes:
> |>  Does this mean that the English cricket is seeing a revival
> |> of leg-break-googly bowling after an almost total neglect of well over 20 years.
> |> Any comments.
> |> 
> |> 	Hasan
> |> 
> I for one certainly hope so. Variety in bowling is one of the great attractions
> of cricket for me and leg spinners have been in the twilight for too long. The
> last leg spinner that I can remember in English county cricket was the Aussie
> Kerry O'Keefe who also played for Somerset and it was not unheard of for him to
> bowl an entire side out. Does anyone recall any other leggies playing regular
> county cricket in the last 20 years, 30 years?
> 
> Andrew Coad
> Morgan Stanley
> New York
> (212) 703-2379

I think two Pakistani leggies also bowled in the seventies in the county
matches. Mushtaq Muhammad and Intikhab Alam. 

Mushtaq Muhammad was basically a batsman but on many occasions he had ended
up winning matches for Pakistan by his sheer bowling. Infact once or twice
he had the haul of 5+ wickets and 100+ runs in Test Cricket. 

Atif Mumtaz
From: sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Aussie bowling
Date: 18 Aug 1992 20:00:42 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I was amazed to see that the Aussie bowling lineup in the Test against SL 
consists of only a couple of real bowlers - McDermott and Whitney - of them
Whitney can only be considered a threat against a side like India - perpetual
suckers against left-arm medium pacers. Sunil Gudge is probably better than
Shane Warne - you'd need to be a West Zone Ranji Trophy follower to figure
that one out.
  So is this tour meant to be some kind of picnic - or do the Aussies have so
much faith in the bowling talents of Warne, Moody and Waugh??
  IMHO, SL is a very difficult place to play in - the home team has usually
done very well there. I'd rate SL as the toughest place to tour after NZ.

Sudhama
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From: hasan@vxcrna.cern.ch 
Subject: Mushtaq sets for Somerset
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:27:00 GMT

According to The Guardian, Mushtaq Ahmad, the other tormentor of the English
batsmen apart from the two Ws, has signed a three-year contract with Somerset
that runs from next season. Many counties -- including Worcestershire and
Leicestershire -- were keenly vying for the leg spinner and Somerset's director
of cricket Bob Cottam said: "I am absolutely delighted. I've got the man I
wanted". He said that he had been tracking the player for three weeks and 
added:" I've really done my homework. He has performed at the highest level in
the test arena and in pressure situations; he is a proven wicket-taker".

Mushtaq's best figures this season have so far been against Somerset; five for
46 in one innings and eight for 124 for the match. He is the highest wicket-
taker for the Pakistani tourists with 63 wickets at 24.61 in 15 matches, 
including a test return of 15 wickets at 31.66 apiece. He had earlier proved
that he could bowl in limited-overs game by taking 16 wickets at 19.43 in the
World Cup.

So he would be the fifth Pakistani to be playing county cricket currently. Now
apart from Salim Malik, all the rest -- WA, WY, AJ and now MA -- are bowlers.
Contrast it with the situation in the late seventies when eight or nine Pakis-
tanis were playing county cricket and Sarfaraz Nawaz was the only bowler among
them -- the rest were either batsmen or all rounders. This reflects a total
transformation in the strength of the Pakistani side with interesting conse-
quences.

Another interesting thing -- and also somewhat puzzling to me -- is that while
the great Abdul Qadir performed so well in the Pakitan's tours of '82 and '87,
he was to my knowledge never sought by any English county (now I may me wrong
in this, so please correct me if I am ), at least not in the manner in which
MA has been. Coupled with this was the inclusion of Ian Salisbury in the English
side this season. Does this mean that the English cricket is seeing a revival
of leg-break-googly bowling after an almost total neglect of well over 20 years.
Any comments.

	Hasan

Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket,soc.culture.pakistan
From: m0a1530@zeus.tamu.edu (ABBAS, MUSTAFA)
Subject: Re: Pakistan: 200 not out.......
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 02:28:00 GMT

In article <18239.2a8a67fb@ecs.umass.edu>, vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu writes...
> 
>Test Record of Pakistani Captains:
>----------------------------------
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>                        Tests      Won      Drawn    Lost    Success		
>                        Captained (2pts)    (1 pt)             (%)
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Javed Miandad             31        12        14      05      61.29
>Mushtaq Mohammad          19        08        07      04      60.52
>Zaheer Abbas              14        03        10      01      57.14
>Imran Khan                48        14        26      08      56.25
>Fazal Mahmood             01        02        06      02      50.00
>Hanif Mohammad            11        02        07      02      50.00
>AH Kardar                 23        06        11      06      50.00
>Majid Khan                03        00        03      00      50.00
>Saeed Khan                03        00        03      00      50.00
>Intikhab Alam             17        01        11      05      38.23
>Asif Iqbal                06        00        04      02      33.33
>Wasim Bari                06        00        04      02      33.33
>Imtiaz Ahmed              04        00        02      02      25.00
>Javed Burki               05        00        01      04      10.00
>                       --------------------------------------------------
>Total                    200        48       109      43      51.25
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>Qualitative Awards:
> 
>		Best Bowler       :   Imran Khan
>		Best Batsman      :   Javed Miandad
>                Best All-rounder  :   Imran Khan
>                Best 'keeper      :   Wasim Bari
>		Best Captain      :   Javed Miandad
		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>		Defensive Captain :   Zaheer Abbas
> 

>Thanks to Mr BB Mama and the Sportstar for the statistics.  
	
	BB Mama has been one of the best cricket statistician, but 
there is hardly any doubt about the best captain for pakistan. Based on 
statistics, yes, miandad is best but QUALATIVELY imran is surely the 
best. In fact, arguably the best captain for any country. Isn't (or 
wasn't) he?.
From: manuvir@cs.wisc.edu (Manuvir Das)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Jimmy Amarnath - India's best ever batsman?
Date: 18 Aug 92 23:30:41 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept

In article <karnik.714154453@giga> karnik@giga.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes:
>In <1992Aug14.220916.4311@news.Hawaii.Edu> venki@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (N. Venkateswaran) w
rites:
>
>>      Most of Gavaskar's (and for that matter Vengsarkar's) big scores
>>      were scored against weak bowling attacks. Gav failed against
>>      Marshall & Co in WI, Imran Khan & Co. in Pak and did not play
>>      Lille and Thomson when they were at their best.
>
>        Given that Gavaskar scored 33 tons, and 10122 runs in his career, I
                            ******************


Gavaskar became known to the world as a potentially great batsman after
his first international tour, that of the West Indies IN the West Indies,
on arguably the best fast bowling pitches in the world. I don't remember the
facts, but he had a 100+ average, and maybe 776 runs that series.

In the early seventies, he wa considered one of the greatest players of
fast bowling, and was chosen to play as a member of the World team in the
Packer series for this reason.

Jimmy Amarnath is famous as a great player of fast bowling because of only
two series in succession. The 82-83 in Pakistan, and the next one in the
West Indies. Thereafter, he had a whole series of 0's against BOTH these
teams and was left out of the side.

As for Gavaskar, his statistics speak for themselves. His best performances
were against the West Indies.

Manuvir.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: aapfl6!zulfiqar@aapfl1.attmail.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: ENG vs PAK ONE DAYS ON CABLE
Date: 12 Aug 1992 09:05:32 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

        England vs Pakistan One Day Internationals would be televised
        by most of the cable companies throughout the US.

        Different companies are airing the matches at different times.
        Majority is showing it LIVE on AUGUST 22 (SATURDAY). Some would
        TAPE-DELAY the event by a few hours.

        The AUGUST 24 match would be TAPE-DELAYED and played on
        AUGUST  29 (SATURDAY). Some may show it LIVE.

        Your best bet would be to check with your local cable company
        to find the time and day of both the matches. I understand that
        the operators may not know yet because AVI has just struck deals
        with these companies. You might have to talk to your PPV MANAGER
        to get details.

        I also understand that the match would be SCRAMBLED and would not
        be distributed to satellite dish owners unless you make special
        advance arrangements with AVI @ (407) 239-8933.

        If anyone needs any further info. you can post it to rsc and I
        will see if I can get the answers.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: zazamind@mtu.edu (Zamindar)
Subject: Javed Miandad's record
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:25:23 GMT

Keywords: 
Would anybody post Miandad's complete batting record at the end of
the current tour.  How much more does he have to go before 10122 runs.
It would be great if it is the whole Pakistan Team's batting and
bowling record.  I am sure somebody subscribing to the Cricketer
would be able to do it. It would be very beneficial.

THANKS
JM FAN


Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha)
Subject: Re: New York Cricket (Pak vs ROW)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:55:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.095158@is.morgan.com> andyc@is.morgan.com (Andrew Coad) writes:
>
>Here is the info that I have:
>
>Pakistan are playing ROW at Downing Stadium, Randalls Island New York of
>SPETEMBER 26th, 1992 start time 11.00 a.m. The teams are as follows:
>
(..Pakistan Team Deleated..)

>
>Rest OF World:
>Viv Richards   ...............1
>Desmond Haynes
>Richie Richardson
>Ian Bishop    ................1
>Brian Lara
>Mohammed Azaruddin
>Sachin Tendulkar
>Sanjay Manurekar
>Kiren More
>Navjit Sidhu
>Mark Ramprakash
>
What kind of joke is this? I hardly see any regular bowler in ROW team.
Is this team correct? As I have pointed, only two regular bowlers. I
guess, SRT,Ramprakash,Aza,Lara will serve as other bowlers. This 
is going to be a real joke against a full strength pakistan team.

>Tickets are $23, $30, $100 (VIP) available from Ticketmaster (212) 307-7171,
>(914) 965-2700, (201) 507-8900, (516) 888-9000.
>
>the match is sponsored by the Daily News and Carib News. More info available from
>"The World Cricket League" (212) 582-8556.
>
>Andrew Coad

-Saumyen


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From: hasan@vxcrna.cern.ch 
Subject: Re: English Umpiring, hello Rajeev
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:57:00 GMT

In article <9222517.27920@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, kre@cs.mu.oz.au (Robert Elz) writes...
> 
>You seem to be forgetting in this example that for an umpire, judging
>the direct throw cases is much, much, easier than the ones where a
>player takes the ball and removes the stumps.   In the direct throw
>case he can watch the bat, and listen for the ball breaking the stumps,
>and he'll have a pretty easy decision to make - even the slight delay
>in the sound reaching him (if he's at square leg) will act in the
>batsman's favour, so he doesn't have to worry about that.
> 
>When one of the players is to take the ball and remove the stumps, the umpire
>has to watch that happen, he has to be sure the ball has been taken cleanly,
>and before the bails are removed, not as sometimes happens, the bails being
>removed an instant before the player catches the ball, or removed with the
>hands after dropping the ball near the stumps, and all kinds of other
>possibilities.   After he's seen that the wicket has been properly put down,
>he then has to shift his attention to the batsman and see if he's out of his
>ground - that takes time, and that time can make all the difference.  What's
>more, the umpire has to do it this way, he can't watch the bat, listen for
>the bails being removed, and then try to work out of they were removed
>properly, after they've been removed its too late to tell.
> 
>That's why I regard "out" decisions in those kinds of cases as almost
>invariably wrong - that usually means that the umpire wasn't paying
>attention to what he should have been - even if replays show that
>everything was just perfect.
>

Now this is ridiculous. What you are saying is that in case the wicket-
keeper or one of the fielders removes the bails after collecting a throw,
a batsman should be at least more than than two feet away from the crease
to be given out, otherwise the decision would be "almost invariably wrong". 
How about including this great piece of advice in an umpiring manual.

I am sorry for being a bit too harsh on you, but though you have every 
right to your opinion about the said decision, you seem to be carried away 
too far to justify a bad decision. 

>	--- stuff deleted --- 
>kre

	-Hasan
From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: SL vs Australia
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:06:27 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

In article <1992Aug20.010509.13846@mel.dit.csiro.au> (A. U. De Silva) writes:
>
>Romesh Kaluwitharan is the wicket keeper who is playing his first test.
>He scoring as as follows
>4,4,1,1,4,4,4,4,4,1,1,1,4,4,1,1,4,2,2,1,1,1,4,1,4,1,4,4,4,1,4,1,4,1,1,4,1,1,1,4,4
>1,4,4,4,1,4,4,1,1,4

Looks like the dingo got to the baby :-).

j n a.
From: KSRAO@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: ODI 3 Englandafter 20
Date: 20 Aug 1992 06:17:37 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu





    SAlim Malik won the toss for Pakistan and sent England to bat. They are 94
for 1 after 20 overs.

Gooch   b Waqar  42
Stewert 34
Smith    8
Extras  10

Total 94 for 1 after 20 0vers.

Gooch played himmself on off an inside edge which hit the off stump. Hewas
beaten by the pace of the ball. Hewasout with England total at 84.

England scored 51 off 72 balls.

Rao
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From: cdcs@st-andrews.ac.uk (Colin D. C. Steele)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: County Championship 1992 August 15 (Saturday)
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:43:49 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.


County Championship 1992 August 15 (Saturday)
Day 2 of 3

At Chesterfield
Derbyshire (6) 207
and 213-1 (KJ Barnett 116*, JE Morris 54*)
Kent (7) 295 (TR Ward 87, NR Taylor 71, IR Bishop 5-60)

At Hartlepool
Glamorgan (8) 396-9 dec (H Morris 126, A Dale 68, A Cottey 91)
Durham (4) 201
and (Following on) 59-1

At Colchester
Nottinghamshire (3) 249 (PR Pollard 65, CL Cairns 80, JP Stephenson 5w)
Essex (7) 302-4 (JP Stephenson 74, PJ Prichard 136)

At Bournemouth
Hampshire (5) 260 (KD James 74, RA Smith 62, KM Curran 6-45)
and 18-1
Northamptonshire (6) 338-8 dec (AJ Lamb 160, D Ripley 57, MD Marshall 4-49)

At Uxbridge
Yorkshire (5) 286 (SR Tendulkar 82, PCR Tufnell 4-92)
and 36-2
Middlesex (7) 250-6 dec (DL Haynes 83, PN Weekes 64*)

At The Oval
Leicestershire (6) 216 (V Wells 56, NJ Kendrick 6-61)
and 104-3
Surrey (6) 218 (MA Lynch 106, GJ Parsons 6-70, AD Mullally 4-56)

Matches Continue Monday
From: shaw@computing-science.aberdeen.ac.uk (Adrian Y Cymro Shaw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: 3rd ODI, end of Endland's innings
Date: 20 Aug 1992 09:32:22 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Pakistan won toss and elected to field.

England
-------
Gooch       b Younis           42
Stewart     c Akram b Younis   24
Smith       c Raja b Javed     77 (including 2 sixes)
Fairbrother b Javed            62 (including 2 sixes)
Lamb        lbw Younis         16
Hick        b Akram            63 (42 balls, 2 sixes)
Botham      c Raja b Younis    24 (17 balls, 1 six)
Lewis       not out             1
De Freitas  not out             5
Extras                          ?  (too many wides!)
                              ---
Total  (for 7 wickets)        363

Did not bat: Illingworth, Small

**** The highest score ever in a one-day limited over international ****

Younis 11-0-4-73
Akram  11-0-1-55
Javed  11-1-2-55
(sorry I didn't catch the rest)

Javed Miandad is ill, so Salim Malik is the acting captain.

Hick's 50 came off 34 balls, the fastest ever 50 in Texaco trophy matches

--
Adrian D. Shaw      * Currently studying MSc in AI at Aberdeen
shaw@uk.ac.abdn.csd * Address: MSc wing, Computing Science Department,
Tel. 035887-251     * Meston Building, Old Aberdeen, Scotland
From: aapfl6!zulfiqar@aapfl1.attmail.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: PAK, ENG  ONE DAYS ON PPV
Date: 21 Aug 1992 10:01:29 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

        DON'T  FORGET  PAKISTAN  VS  ENGLAND  ODI  THIS  SATURDAY

                                ON  PPV


        England vs Pakistan One Day Internationals would be televised
        by most of the cable companies throughout the US.

        Different companies are airing the matches at different times.
        Majority is showing it LIVE on AUGUST 22 (SATURDAY). Some would
        TAPE-DELAY the event by a few hours.

        The AUGUST 24 match may be TAPE-DELAYED and played on
        AUGUST  29 (SATURDAY). Some systems would show it LIVE.

        Your best bet would be to check with your local cable company
        to find the time and day of both the matches. I understand that
        the operators may not know yet because AVI has just struck deals
        with these companies. You might have to talk to your PPV MANAGER
        to get details.

        I also understand that the match would be SCRAMBLED and would not
        be distributed to satellite dish owners unless you make special
        advance arrangements with AVI @ (407) 239-8933.

        Different cable companies are charging different amounts. The
        range is from  $15 to $20.

        Some folks want to know what they can do if their cable company
        is unaware of the matches. I suggest that you call the PPV MANAGER
        of your company and let him/her know of your interest and ask them
        to contact AVI @ (407) 239-8933. It would not be a bad idea to
        give AVI the name/phone of your cable company's PPV MANAGER
        as well.

        In reply to someone's question, Sammons Communications has indicated
        that in towns where they operate there is no interest in cricket
        and so would not be carrying it. That is hard to believe.
        However, there are other companies in NJ, MA, NY carrying these
        games and are in close proximity.

        If anyone needs any further info. you can post it to rsc and I
        will see if I can get the answers.
From: jka@ipsa.reuter.com (Jan Arendtsz)
Subject: Australia vs Shri-Lanka, 1st Cricket Test, 1st Day, Tea
Organization: Reuters Information Services (Canada) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:30:52 GMT

Aug 17, Colombo - Australia put into bat by Shri-Lanka are 168 for 8 wickets
on the openning day of the first cricket test. Part time medium pacer
Chandika Hathurusinghe broke the back of the Aussie line up by taking 4 wickets
for just 13 runs in 24 balls. The conditions were supposed to be good for
swing bowling. Will post the full scoreboard as soon as I receive it...

Jan Arendtsz

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From: andyc@is.morgan.com (Andrew Coad)
Subject: Re: English Umpiring, hello Rajeev
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:52:06 GMT

Robert Elz writes:

> I doubt that just about anyone reading this list has any real idea which
> umpires are better than which others (including those with the luxury
> to talk to test level players)

Robert Elz also wrote a bunch of other stuff and he is pretty much dead on target
on most of it. The problem with these forums is that most people are not experts
in the field, refer to incidents or events that they never saw, and then colour
the whole thing with liberal doses of partisanship.

Just like Robert Elz did, I think we should all challenge netters who write 
"facts" that are nothing more than opinions.

Andrew Coad
Morgan Stanley
New York
From: sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: W&W Swing Bowling
Date: 12 Aug 1992 10:31:39 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Among other things SAN writes:

Woodcock summed it up the best. Imagine, he said, that you are a
Pakistani batsmen who has just endured a fast spell from Malcolm. With
relief you see him taking his sweater and being replaced by Pringle.

-----------------------------------------------------
  Looks as if Devon Malcolm has suddenly become a slightly menacing bowler. I
remember the last time India toured England - Devon Malcolm would usually get
thrashed - by everyone. Angus Fraser was THE consistently good bowler for 
England; Chris Lewis had the ability to produce unplayable stuff once in a way.
But Malcolm would usually be off target and Azhar in particular used to freak
out on Malcolm's bowling. I'd usually snigger when the BBC commentators would
describe Malcolm as probably England's only genuine pace bowler - he must be 
good because he had bowled well in a Test against Australia earlier and did 
well in the County season.

Sudhama
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