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From: banghartr@clvax1.cl.msu.edu (Rick Banghart, IPTV)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: Astrology real, yeah right!
Date: 10 Nov 92 13:00:38 GMT
Reply-To: banghartr@clvax1.cl.msu.edu
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD, USA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

In article <1992Nov9.094059.1@woods.ulowell.edu>, stancad@woods.ulowell.edu writes...
>How can anybody take strology seriously? Unless you're either dumb or
>desperate. Astrology is only a scheme to make money; it has no real use even if
>it did work.
> 
>Nostradamus (I probably spelt this wrong, but then who cares!)
^^^^^^^^^^^
It's the one thing you spelt rite.  

I think this should be sent to Maddi Hausmann.

> 
> 
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walker)
Subject: PRESIDENTIAL ASSASSINATIONS
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: none
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:18:08 GMT

I remembered reading in several publications a while ago regarding 
assassinations of U.S. presidents elected in years ending in "0", and their
relationship to certain planetary conjunctions. None of these books really
went into detail however. It had something to with a Jupiter/Saturn 
configuration (??). Examples of this would be Lincoln, Kennedy, and the 
attempt on Reagan (who broke the pattern by surviving the attempt on his life).
I also believe it had something to do with the presidents's own chart (??).

If anyone could elaborate on this, I would appreciate it.

			-- Lynn --

 *****************************************************************************
  Lynn Walker		+ "When you think about it, the whole idea of two guys
  Toronto, Canada	+  making decisions for twenty million people--that's
  walker@ingres.com	+  pretty funny."		-- The Candidate
 *****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: bbl7597@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: Blue*Star software
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:22:39 GMT
Reply-To: bbl7597@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

I have Blue Star 2.1 and it prints Hi-Resolution wheels. It has a lot of 
to choose from.
/Bruce
From: casper@vxcrna.cern.ch (CASPER,DAVI./PPE)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: The New President
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:37:00 GMT
Followup-To: alt.astrology
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Carole-051192091602@cis_staff-kntx48.cis.brown.edu>, Carole@brownvm (Carolyn Egan) writes...
>Does William Clinton have any middle names?  I don't recall seeing anything
>in print - does someone on the list have access to a Whos Who?  

William Clinton is not his real (original) name.  I think his last name was
changed as a result of his mother remarrying when he was young.  Not sure if
that matters in your numerology.

I'd love to help you with his real name, but I don't remember what it is.
I recall that it sounds a bit funny though.

>Thanks and regards, Carol Egan  

Always a pleasure, Carol.


Dave
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: mrcarl@carson.u.washington.edu (Mark Carlson)
Subject: Re: The New President
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:46:28 GMT

Carole@brownvm (Carolyn Egan) writes:

>Does William Clinton have any middle names?  I don't recall seeing anything
>in print - does someone on the list have access to a Whos Who?  



William Jefferson Clinton

Source: Grolier's encyclopedia

Mark

From: stevek@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Steve Kauder)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:29:58 GMT
Subject: Re: Blue Star & Laser Printers
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: alt.astrology

>In alt.astrology, aa581@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sandra Rozhon) writes:
>
>
    >Do you need a special driver to use a laser printer with Blue Star, or a
    >completely different version of Blue Star?
>
    >Sandy
    >-- 
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I've had Blue Star 2.1 for about 3 years.  I also have an HP Laserjet
printer.  I used to print charts using generic ascii symbols for planets
(e.g., "MO" for moon).  Matrix came out with a "Laser Wheel" upgrade
for Blue Star about a year ago (I guess).  So, I paid them more money
and now I get beautiful charts.

Steve Kauder                        Phone: 303-229-3541 
UTD Support and Learning Products   Unix Mail: stevek@hpfcmgcf.fc.hp.com

"Computers, Music, Astrology, The Course in Miracles, what's next??"

P.S. Now that I remember it, Blue Star also had a problem with laser
     printers (before I got the laser upgrade).  It turns out that the
     generic ascii symbols chart expects to send 66 lines per page
     to a printer.  This is just the right thing to do for a pin-feed
     dot matrix printer.  But a laser printer normally leaves margins
     and only wants 60 lines per page.  My charts were consequently 
     messed up until I found a utility which would tell the laser printer
     to expect 66 lines per page.  Anyhow, the "Laser Wheel" upgrade
     solved this problem, too.

P.P.S. The "Laser Wheel" upgrade is fast.  Charts print very quickly.
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: starchart programs?
From: slayman@husc11.harvard.edu (Andrew Slayman)
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:29:02 EST
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


I am an archaeology student doing a little archaeoastronomy.
Nothing heavy duty. Purely observational stuff such as, "Does
this building face the summer solstice sunrise?" or "Does this
date correspond to any planetary conjunctions?" I'm also 
interested in eclipses and the like.

Do any of you know of any good, preferably cheap or free,
programs for the Mac (SE) that will tell me information 
along those lines, perhaps that will even plot out the stars
in the sky facing in a certain direction from a certain place
on earth at a certain time? I'd very much appreciate any 
info anyone could give me.

Thanks,
Andrew
From: abbruzzs@bcvms.bc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: PLease Help
Date: 10 Nov 92 20:27:24 GMT
Organization: Boston College

Please help  I need to know my fortune for the week.  I am an  Aquarius.
Send us e-mail on the subject or advice.  Thank you.

-Sarah
,
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu ()
Subject: Re: Mecury Retrograde
Organization: clearer than blir
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:32:39 GMT

In article <1dc9mmINNj99@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cg482@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Paquette) writes:
>
>Hi David,
>
>     Read your post about Retro. Mercury.  I have some comments 
>and questions. I have worked in hospitals for 10 years and done 
>home health care for 6 years including Hospice or terminal patients.
>It is a strange thing, but many people die during a Merc. retro. 
>period. I am sure there are many other aspects but I noticed an
>unusual number of deaths, including two of my sisters, during these
>retrograde periods.  Any comments?
>
>     Also, many seemingly good opportunities seem to arise during
>these periods.  Why?  In my own chart, Asc. is Virgo, Nep. conjunct
>ing, Mercury in Pisces conjunct Saturn, loosely conjunct Venus.
>Natal Mercury is direct, progressed is retrograde. Mixed up
>character that I am!  Comments?

It seems to me that if you had kept careful statistics over all these
years, or go back and get them from records, you could make a pretty
good case in support of Astrology based on scientific evidence. I have
always thought that Mercury retrograde cycles were an excellent place
to start. You could look at phone line problems reported to the phone
company. You could look at how well students do on standardized tests.
You could look at all kinds of things.

-- Tad Perry   Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
               CompuServe:  70402,3020
From: lmpm@teal.csn.org (L. M. P. McPherson)
Newsgroups: alt.astrology
Subject: Re: Vice-President Gore's Birth Info.
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:12:08 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.

In article <1992Nov10.103938.5351@visual.spk.wa.us> pwageman@visual.spk.wa.us (Peggy Wageman) writes:
>I'm interested in getting Gore's birth information if anybody has it,
>also Hilary Clintons.  Thanks,  Peggy Wageman

Vice-president-elect Albert Gore: March 31, 1948, 12:53 pm EST, 77W02, 
38N54. (Leo rising; Pluto, Saturn and Mars in the first.)
Source: Considerations, Vol. VII, No. 4; they used data from Mark Lerner.

First-lady-elect (??) Hillary Rodham Clinton: October 26, 1947, 8:00 pm
CST, Chicago, IL, 87W39, 41N52. (Gemini rising, Uranus conjunct Asc.)
Source: Astrological Association Newsletter, Sept./Oct. '92.


Maggie
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,alt.industrial,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage
From: citer@jetson.uh.edu (Sanders, Raymond L.)
Subject: Re: Perhaps we have forgotten the teachings of Jesus
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:35:00 GMT


In article <BxK81I.6I2@conexch.uucp>, dan@conexch.uucp (Dan Mahoney) writes...
>Question - Why is this thread in this newsgroup?
Perhaps because more people have put words into Jesus' mouth about sex than
anything else. 
Ray (citer@jetson.uh.edu)
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From: ivang@cup.portal.com (Ivan - Godard)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,alt.industrial,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Perhaps we have forgotten the teachings of Jesus
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 92 23:00:29 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Nov9.065608.3890@s1.gov>

I've always respected Jesus. He was one heavy bottom.

Ivan
From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: William Gibson
Date: 10 Nov 92 23:19:10 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)

In article <1992Nov10.065715.16663@wixer.cactus.org> wizard@wixer.cactus.org (John P Onorato) writes:
>Alright, then, where can I get ahold of Mr Maddox?

	I rather doubt that you can.  You can, however, send him e-mail 
without much difficulty.

	If it's concerning Ono-Sendai, that is an existing company now, so
any mention you make of the name would have reference to them and their
legal rights, not to Gibson (and certainly not to me, as I had nothing to 
do with the name to begin with).


-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
		"The Reptoids eat humans like we eat chickens."
				Alex Alexander
From: gtclark@festival.ed.ac.uk (G T Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Neuromancer the Music and Movie
Date: 10 Nov 92 12:13:27 GMT


	If anyone's interested,the guy who played the ex-con in "The 
Unbelievable Truth" is not only in Hartley's new film "Simple Men"
but also,apparently,has been approached about playing the lead in
Robocop III.Apparently Weller's had enough.


	G.
From: kxh16@po.CWRU.Edu (Kathleen Hardy)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Wanted: Essays/etc. on sexism in Cyberpunk
Date: 8 Nov 1992 02:15:09 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: kxh16@po.CWRU.Edu (Kathleen Hardy)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) says:
>rclarke@ac.dal.ca writes:
>> Could anyone please tell me where I could find/get 
>> essays/articles/papers on sexism in cyberpunk?  I have a feminist 
>> friend who always calls me a sexist pig because I happened to have 
>> read a few cyberpunk books.
>
>does she give an reasons -why- she considers cyberpunk to be
	<steps up to make a minor point>
	The gender of this friend was not mentioned. Therefore, assuming
	said friend to be female is in and of itself sexist. Which, to 
	some extent, proves said friend's point. :)

hth
Kitten
-- 
Do you like the dark?
Do you like the way it moves?
Do you come alive when neon kills the sun?
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: space2@hardy.u.washington.edu (Tim)
Subject: Re: Neuromancer the Music and Movie
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:28:09 GMT

In article <ceznmwW00WB=FOc68D@andrew.cmu.edu> Patrick C Leger <pl1u+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Hmm...After reading a rather righteous post about why punk is the music
>for Neuromancer (the movie) as opposed to rock, I don't suppose that
>it'd be appropriate to mention that Gibson has seeded his works with
>references to Steely Dan and Velvet Underground...
>
>Chris
>
>--------------
>Disclaimer:  If anything I have said has offended you, I promise not to
>infringe on your right to just look away from the screen and ignore what
>I'm saying.
>
Part of what these people are suggesting is based on what the current scene
is relating to 'cyberpunk' per se. Which isn't all bad but I must agree that
none of the 'cyberpunk' groups were probably around pre-Neuromance time frame
and they certainly aren't what WG had in mind when writing the novel. Clearly
its neither here nor there... everyone has there own opinion and it won't
likely effect the final outcome of such a soundtrack (if the movie ever gets
back on the market).

To quote Gibson " I'm not sure I really enjoy the *music* any more than I did
before, on certifiably low-fi junk. The music, when it's really *there*, is
just there.  You can hear it coming out of the dented speaker grill of a
Datsun B-210 with holes in the floor. Somethimes that's the best way to heari
it."

Check out Rolling Stone June 15 1989 p84-87 by the Gibster himself.

Tim

Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (freud on crack)
Subject: Neuromancer dream-cast and soundtrack
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 05:32:19 GMT

My neural-input on the whole Neuromancer wish-list thing:

Neuromancer

a film by Ridley Scott 
[Directed and produced by]
(yeah, I know it's kinda close to Bladerunner, but, Ridley Scott is
the only auteur [sp?] out there that can even attempt this type of
project and have it have meaning and value beyond "woah, dude, cool
movie" and monetary profit)

screenplay by William Gibson 

special effects by Industrial Light & Mgic
and Survival Research Laboratories

Starring:
	Christian Slater as Case
	Winona Ryder as Molly
		(yeah, I know it's a Heathers re-run, but this is a
		 dream cast, anyway [and if you're talking about
		 dreams, you gotta mention Winona Ryder...=)])
	Patrick Stewart as Armitage
	Ziggy Marley as Maelcum
	the fat guy from Murphy Brown (barkeep) as Finn
	Ex-LoD members as the Panther Moderns  	=)
	Timothy Leary as Riviera    		=)	
		(Jaron Lanier needs a part, too =)

Soundtrack by:
	FrontLine Assembly	(confrontations with wintermute)
	Meat Beat Manifesto  	(Chiba City Ratz' bar music)
	Ministry		(filler)
	The Orb 		(love theme)
	Orbital			(cyberspace music)
	808 State		(Tessier-Ashpool/Freeside background music)


Yeah, that pretty much kicks....I'd pay $100 to see this movie this
way... Seriously...

Oh, yeah, and it's gotta be in THX on 70mm.....

--
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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Neuromancer the Music and Movie
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:02:51 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

ratner@owlnet.rice.edu (Logan Joshua Ratner) writes:
> jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
> >
> >[stuff munched]
> >
> >> Some Rush songs, the WHO's best stuff (Molly, can you see me?),
> >> not to mention Zepplin and Floyd, all have a CP edge and 
> >> sensibility to them.
> >
> >pardon? the punk sensibility was in direct opposition to such 
> >pretentious art rock. remember, we're talking about cyber *punk*, 
> >where image and raw power beats out the "k00lest" of Rush lyrics 
> >every time. 
> 
> One of the most refreshing things about the punk sensibility was a 
> willingness to acknowledge their roots in rock and roll.  Check out 
> Black Flag's cover of "Louie Louie" if you need an example.  Basic 
> rock has more image and raw power than the "coolest" of 
> indusrtial/post-industrial/whatever lyrics.

ahh. i don't have a problem with "basic rock". many of the bands
you mentioned had little to do with basic rock, they were just old.

Rush: cold, intellectual, pretentious, w/ horrid whining vocals.
Led Zep: pretentious, w/ horrid whining vocals.
Floyd: much better, but still w/ whining vocals.

that's it! cyberpunks don't whine! so the Doors would be great.
Hendrix would be better. the Stones would rock (as always). the
WHO might even do. but *please* avoid that black pit from 75-81
when the low end dropped out of music.

jason

--
  "I'm the keeper of the cheese, and you're the lemon merchant!" - Ren Hoek  
,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,`,` jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu ,`,`,`
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: egb43782@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Erich)
Subject: Re: WANTED:Help with making c.p. world...
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:54:40 GMT
Keywords: bing


WOW!  Thanks to everybody who responded!  I haven't gotten around to 
replying to all of you, but I've got all your email addresses down.

Right now (literally) I'm writing up the stuff that I need to get...
As I figure it out, I'll try and cut it into small pieces and mail it off
to you guys.

Just to let all of you know more of what I'm doing, I'll give ya an
overview of the game.  It's got ascii based graphics (for across the board
compatibility).

The game will operate in one of two "modes", if you will...
1) it will be a one niter, two teams blowing the hell out of each other while
wandering in and around a city.
2) A full blown multiplayer RPG that is running all the time and (most)
anyone can just connect in and play.
It's a server/client game, and the client is heavily customized with
information windows and status screens, so you
can't just telnet in (sorry... :) ).

The aspect of the game that I think will give it realism is that wherever
you are in the game, you will have 3 descriptior lines on your screen:

Area: NW suburb, the East side, the shipping district, the slums, etc.
Streets: 5th and Broadway, HW1 Turnpike, Madison Bridge
Place: Blue Parrot Lounge, Ritz Hotel, Ricky's House, Tube Station...

What do you guys think?  Would this lend a realistic flavor to the game?

I'm hoping that it will, but I don't know for sure...

--Erich
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: wizard@wixer.cactus.org (John P Onorato)
Subject: Gibson's address, etc
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 07:15:33 GMT




Thank you all, I have found out all I can about Gibson's address, which
is, in short, nothing.  I have been requested to retract my message; 
please do not waste further bandwidth on this question, as it will probably
never be answered to anyone's satisfaction.


Thanks...


john
[remember...   cease and desist!]



-- 
John P Onorato             |   "Softness without strength is weakness.
wizard@wixer.cactus.org    |    Strength without softness is meanness."
cactus.org!wixer!wizard    |             -- Mahatma Gandhi
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,alt.industrial,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage
From: rau@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Drivvt)
Subject: Re: Perhaps we have forgotten the teachings of Jesus
Organization: Menzoberranzan Computer Networking 
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:40:12 GMT

In article <BxK81I.6I2@conexch.uucp> dan@conexch.uucp (Dan Mahoney) writes:
>Question - Why is this thread in this newsgroup?
 Answer   - Why not?  What I wanna know is why _isn't_ it in alt.religion???

-- 
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rau@ucsu.colorado.edu               /' \'' \ Where would I be without IBM? InSoc
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/ n''''' \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: habrams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Howard Abrams)
Subject: Re: Neuromancer the Music and Movie
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 03:00:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.164225.11073@uoft02.utoledo.edu> jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
>ratner@owlnet.rice.edu (Logan Joshua Ratner) writes:
>>
>[stuff munched]
>
>> Some Rush songs, the WHO's best stuff (Molly, can you see me?),
>> not to mention Zepplin and Floyd, all have a CP edge and sensibility
>> to them.
>
>pardon? the punk sensibility was in direct opposition to such 
>pretentious art rock. remember, we're talking about cyber *punk*, 
>where image and raw power beats out the "k00lest" of Rush lyrics 
>every time. 
>
 I can't belive Rush, Zepplin, and Floyd are even being talked about! 

 My votes are for: FLA Front242 Old Ministy(not that old, but pre-psalm)
                   and maybe some techno like 808state and whatnot.

 (just picture a scene in the matrix with stairway to heaven)    

 -- Howard Abrams


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