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From: jholtgra@afit.af.mil (Jeremy C. Holtgrave)
Subject: Re: Red Sector A and Distant Early Warning
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:45:50 GMT

>Comments?

Two haunted songs off a very haunted album.  p/g, IMHO, is Rush's most
coherent and focused album.  Even moreso than theme albumsides like 2112
and Hemishperes.  Each song on p/g is part of a big picture.  That along
with a sound unique even for Rush makes it really stand out among the
rest.

=====================jholtgra@scgraph.afit.af.mil==============================
Jeremy Holtgrave                          "Besides, we have more guns and bombs
Air Force Institute of Technology          than you."
Wright-Patterson AFB, Ohio
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Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: I save my BEST posts for alt.music.rush, and not NMS, you know..
From: tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:53:28 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City



	How about posting pictures in GIF form of friends that look like
Rush members?  We can have a contest to see who is the best Geddy, Neil,
or Alex impersonator.  I have a friend named John who will win the Geddy
category. Hair, nose, and all!

Thomas Beaudoin

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Subject: Re: Sound Production of Early Albums?
Reply-To: a-feygin@uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:02:09 GMT

irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt) writes:
} [it's another one of THOSE rush fans...]
} Au contraire...the sound quality on Rush albums just keeps getting better.
} Moving Pictures was the first ADD album, and Power Windows the first DDD, so
} unless you're buying the LP or something the sound gets audibly cleaner on
} MP and the dynamics get a lot better on PW.  The improved technology allows
} the boyz to express themselves better and more musically, and isn't that
} what it's all about?

Just bought GUP on CD yesterday and was NOT impressed with the
sound quality.

-- 
  Alexander Feygin      "A spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission"
 a-feygin@uiuc.edu                         -- Rush

   The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not CCSO
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: root@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (System PRIVILEGED Account)
Subject: Re: Rush's Greatest Moment (was: Signals- how it fared in the poll
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 06:36:36 GMT

wraty@dvorak.amd.com (Bill Raty) writes:

>Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas Keywords:             YOu mentioned Vital Signs.......Geddy's bass playing during the last third
>was phenominal....or at least the effect it had on me was!  :-{)}  
>Did anyone happen to notice that he was playing a Fender Jazz Bass in the video?   I LOVE the sound out of that thing.....it makes the fur on my arms stand 
>up!  Another great "moment" was from their "show of hands" video, when they
>were playing "The Rhythm method", which in that context was an amalgam of 
>YYZ and what was played on the album...Neil was just blowing me away with 
>what he was doing-  I for one, was impressed......      
>Bill   
>....
> 

Great moments.....

Bridge in Distant Early Warning
Intro to Chemistry (the bit where alex joins in)
Solo in Between the Wheels
Military Beat at the end of By-Tor and the Snowdog
Ditto in The Camera Eye

aarrrrgh there are tooo many to name


Adam
Uni of Western Australia

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: mmarx@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Matthew Marx)
Subject: Re: Rush's Greatest Moment
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:50:30 GMT

In <1992Aug31.154815.5933@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) writes:


>In article <1992Aug31.144313.26004@Csli.Stanford.EDU>I  write:
>>
>>All true. My absolute favorite moment of Peart's drumming -- in fact,
>>my favorite Rush Moment, so to speak, is the latter third of "Vital
>>Signs" where Neil & Alex just rip into the last verse "Leave out the
>>fiction/the fact is: this friction..." It's INCREDIBLE! Any other
>>favorite moments out there?

>I love the ``The Grand Finale'' -- especially the last half
>where Neil varies his percusion, and Alex has his guitars
>rippin'.

Hold the phone! What is "The Grand Finale"? I've never heard of it on
any commercially available Rush album. Is it on a bootleg somewhere?

-- 
Matt Marx     mmarx@csli.stanford.edu           
So many newsgroups, so little time...

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: root@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (System PRIVILEGED Account)
Subject: Re: Signals- how it fared in the poll
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:38:57 GMT

mcr1@quads.uchicago.edu (mark conley roller) writes:



>Adam responded to me by saying:
>> The keyboard playing is something you overlookd though.
>(sorry for the rough translation)

>anyway, I did not mention them because it seems to me when ever Signals
>is brought up, that is all that is mentioned, so I wanted to bring other
>aspects to the forefront... but you are absolutely correct. Geddy does
>a good job with them. Check out solo on Countdown..

>Also, I agree with Power Windows and pearts drumming. Very good... also,
>check out Hemispheres. Peart does some excellent stuff, with very different
>styles on different tracks. Modern Drummer picked Peart's moving pictures
>effort as one of the top 25 drumming albums ever. Also, if you think Peart
>is the master, check out a dude named Dave Weckl. I would suggest to anyone
>who is an afficianado of drumming to check him out. His Albums are Master
>Plan and Head's UP, and he also plays on most of the latest Chick Corea 
>Albums. Intense drummer!! Different style than Peart, but nonetheless very
>good.

>Anyway have a good one.. 
>Chris

Yeah, know about Weckl...he is AWEEEEEESOME..got him on  an Andy
Summers album, really cool...I think that he's also played with Frank
Zappa (now there is a man who has had some mean drummers over the
years)... Btw I am also a big Chick Corea fan :-)

But basically i am into anything that has great musicianship (esp keys
playing, because i am keys player)


cheers

Adam Soudure
University of Western Australia

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: albertr@crchh780.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Albert Reva)
Subject: Re: Kid Gloves
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 1992 13:41:19 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.042922.22636@socrates.umd.edu>, caruso@socrates.umd.edu (John Caruso) writes:
|> In article <2SEP199215272434@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> inthalw@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Magnus) writes:
|> >I was wondering what everyone out there thinks about "Kid Gloves" on p/g. I 
|> >don't believe that I've even seen the song mentioned here in months. Is it 
|> >crap not worth mentioning or sublime enough to not need any discussion.
|> 

For some reason that song has been a favorite of mine from that album, its funny because I can't explain why....I think it might be the energy...
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: root@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (System PRIVILEGED Account)
Subject: Re: Signals- how it fared in the poll
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:40:42 GMT

mcr1@quads.uchicago.edu (mark conley roller) writes:


>I was just curious what others think about Signals. Aside from the different
>sound, Signals happens to be a really great album IMHO. From a bassist 
>standpoint, Signals has some good stuff like Akid, Chem, Dman, etc.. 
>But especially from a Drumming standpoint, Signals has to be one of Neil's
>best efforts. From the beginning of Subdivisions when he does the bit
>with the ride symbol and the high-hat at the same time, to the digital
>man, which has a swing type beat, peart covers it all. All in all, a great
>album. Alex also has some really great solos on hear, too bad the guitar
>was mixed in rather poorly. Dman, Chem, Akid,  Weapon all have killer 
>guitar work. 

>> Alex is 39 today.
>and keeps going, and going, and going, and going , and goin
>(you could just picture a little figure of him with his guitar
>going through all these different commercials like the little bunny from 
>the battery commercials) :)

>Happy B-day alex

>Chris
I totally agree with these sentiments....

The keys playing is something you overlooked however....

Chem, Akid, Cdown, and Subd all have superb synth playing on them...

You are correct about the guitar, i seem to recall Alex saying that and
I quote "Signals was real down album for me" unquote...

I think the rythm section was brilliant, esp the mega drumming by
Neil...

However, I think that his best drumming is on Power Windows, listen the
vamping during the gtr solo in Marathon for example...and Territories as
well.

anyway my $0.02 worth, for what it matters :-)

Adam Soudure
Univerity of Western Australia
 
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: albertr@crchh780.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Albert Reva)
Subject: Re: ? bootlegs (was Rush's Greatest Moment & Live/Recorded Moments)
Keywords: bootleg's
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 1992 21:43:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.155732.18467@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
|> I'm not that sure about all this "bootleg" talk.  These bootleg CD's like
|> "The Fly" are available in many record stores (albeit smaller, local ones,
|> usually singular outfits, and never the chain stores).  If these truly were
|> "bootlegs", it would be rather easy to take care of the problem at its
|> source, unless there has been a change in the laws regarding bootleg
|> records.  I would imagine the groups are well aware of these CD's, and
|> would do something about them if they really wanted to.
|> -- 
|> 
|> Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu


And they have.....3 years ago I was in a record convention, when all of the sudden 50 or so federal agents arrested half of the show dealers...It really sucked....then bootlegs were nowhere to be found until late last year and this year....

albertr
From: KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush & Ayn Rand - HELP PLEASE
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:21:06 GMT
Organization: Kamchatka Charlie

Kamchatka Charlie writes (in the middle of a discussion on "The Trees"):
>     I also write lyrics and poetry as a semi-hobby, and know something about
>word placement and line control, BTW

     Before I let this continue to be more an exposure of my idiocy and
ignorance, let me state that I do not believe for a moment that Peart
explicitly meant to write an objectivist fairy tale with The Trees.
     Oftentimes themes will creep into one's topics, whether you want to write
with themes or not.  Oftentimes I will note that over a period of time certain
themes will pop out of my stuff that reflect what I'm wrestling with.  With a
fairy tale especially, themes will hide themselves within two or three layers
of fantasy, and multiple meanings can be read into the same line (or set of
lines) depending on your viewpoint.
     Thankfully, Peart & company (outside of Anthem, of course) never
explicitly used Objectivism as an explicit source of material.  That much
contrived tripe we didn't have to suffer (and Anthem is listenable, IMHO)

>Later,
>KAMCHATKA CHARLIE          KAMCHAR@ibm.cl.msu.edu
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>"no one is blameless,          
>>but we're all without shame"   
>>-- Second Nature, Rush        
>>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Great Moments / Emotive Music
Date: 1 Sep 1992 13:32:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: eam3@po.CWRU.Edu (Eric A. Meyer)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, tbeaudoin@vax1.umkc.edu () says, in part:

>	Can anyone think of a Rush song that is sung with almost no 
>emotion?

   Well, what do you by 'no emotion'?  In a monotone?  (Kraftwerk!!!)
Or having less than the usual amount of feeling permeating the lyrics?
I can think of a few songs which meet the latter parameter, but not the
first.
   The reason I'm asking before giving names of songs is so that I know
what I'm selecting the songs for.  (Imagine if I thought the question
was asking about songs with have relatively little emotion with regards
to their content and said, "Well, Red Sector A doesn't seem all that
emotional..."  I'd be burnt to a crisp!  The previous example, by the
way, is just that and does not necessarily reflect my opinion(s) of the
song.  It is therefore NOT to be used as kindling material.  So there.
Thank you.)

		-EMeyer

-- 
"Unstable condition--a symptom of life       | Eric A. Meyer (eam3@po.CWRU.edu)
 In mental and environmental change          |  Alumnus,  Beta Nu of Theta Chi
 Atmospheric disturbance--the feverish flux  |---------------------------------
 Of human interface and interchange-"  -N.P. |    "What do you think, sirs?"
From: knee@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Chip "Workin' Man")
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: anybody know what this means?
Date: 26 Aug 92 16:46:02 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Aug26.043358.1037@nevada.edu> jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender) writes:
>
>>>Also, "Now it's dark."  (RTB also)
>>
>>Don't know...
>
>	It's from a movie, Blue Velvet, I think. I can't say for sure, as I'm
>not much of a movie fan.
>

Gee, and all this time I assumed it was something simple like a reference
to "We travel by the dark of the new moon".  I assumed that since "Now it's
dark" it's time to start the tour.  Makes sense to me...

-- Chip "Workin' Man" Knee
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush's Greatest Moment & Live/Recorded Moments
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:03:11 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1SEP199217420231@sigma.tamu.edu> krm3611@sigma.tamu.edu (Ken McWatters) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.063636.3134@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, root@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (System PRIVILEGED Account) writes...
>>wraty@dvorak.amd.com (Bill Raty) writes:

>   This has gotten me thinking of a new thread -- are there are other 
>moments that sound a lot better in the recorded version, or live version, for
>that matter?

I think that ``Force Ten'' is very much better as it is played live --
there is much more tension because of the subtle shifts of phrasing
they give it live (not to mention the great weather-disaster video)...


Gregg

-- 
Gregg Jaeger    (jaeger@buphy.bu.edu)     | Tristero?   ______/|/|  Treestero?
Dept(s). of Physics (and Philosophy)      ------------    (_) \|\|  Trystero?
Boston University, 590 Commonwealth Ave.,Boston MA 02215 --------------------- 

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From: d40374w@kaira.hut.fi (Tero Valkonen)
Subject: The rtb broadcast
Organization: The rational midnight star
Distribution: alt
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:41:01


Was there really a broadcast of one of the shows of the rtb tour? If
anyone has the broadcast on tape, please email me.
--
Tero Valkonen
d40374w@kaira.hut.fi
From: ericm@eebbs.isis.org (Eric Mathurin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Sound Production of Early Albums?
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 21:42:43 EST
Organization: Electronic Encounters BBS

 feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin) writes:
 
 >Just bought GUP on CD yesterday and was NOT impressed with the
 >sound quality.

 You're supposed to be impressed with the music and substance; not
 the sound quality.  Dummy.  [grin]

 Take care,
 Eric

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From: d40374w@kaira.hut.fi (Tero Valkonen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush & Ayn Rand - HELP PLEASE
Date: 29 Aug 92 21:08:32 GMT
Organization: The rational midnight star

In article <Hw28PB1w165w@eebbs.isis.org> ericm@eebbs.isis.org (Eric Mathurin) writes:

   If I recall correctly (and this may be in the FAQ), Neil says that Ayn Rand
   did NOT influence 2112.  After writing the song, he read the book and noticed
   many similarities and decided to mention her name/quote (which ever).

You don't recall correctly. 
--
Tero Valkonen
d40374w@kaira.hut.fi
From: PRAETHE@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ethan Evan Prater)
Subject: Re: Greatest Moment & Live/Recorded Moments
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 14:57:24 EDT

This doesn't fit the thread exactly, I think, but the last two bars of
the YYZ drum solo on ESL along with Alex's pickup into the main groove are
just amazing.
 
Ethan
From: feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Sound Production of Early Albums?
Date: 30 Aug 92 07:38:47 GMT
Reply-To: a-feygin@uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

ericm@eebbs.isis.org (Eric Mathurin) writes:
}  feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin) writes:
}  >Just bought GUP on CD yesterday and was NOT impressed with the
}  >sound quality.
}  You're supposed to be impressed with the music and substance; not
}  the sound quality.  Dummy.  [grin]

Well being that I had already heard most of the songs before
I was already impressed with the music and substance...
...but not the sound quality (or is it production?)...

-- 
  Alexander Feygin      "A spirit with a vision is a dream with a mission"
 a-feygin@uiuc.edu                         -- Rush

   The opinions expressed above are those of the author and not CCSO
From: rone@aludra.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush & Terry Brown
Date: 30 Aug 1992 13:43:19 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Aug30.201731.11238@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) writes:
>srf6200@zeus.tamu.edu   writes:
>>Yes, their recent work has been rather lame.  But believe me, their older 
>>works were simply copies of Led Zeppelin.  Rush simply has not been able to 
>>keep up in these recent years with more progressive bands.
>   Led Zeppelin?!? How can you compare Rush with a bunch of hippies? And what
>constitutes "keeping up" with ANY progressive band?
>Flames to /dev/nul.

Not gonna work.  Er, Muff, if you can look at the group's pictures in "Rush"
and not call them hippies, you must have a very strict definition of hippies.
Also, if you listen to LZ, and then listen to "Rush" (esp. "Finding My Way"),
the similarities are a BIT obvious.

5150



Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: bill@verdix.com (William Spencer)
Subject: Re: Sound Production of Early Albums?
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:24:56 GMT

tanaka@ogwani.enet.dec.com (My name is...) writes:

>But there is one thing that I'm concerned about.
>That's the sound production.
>It can't be helped that old albums have inferiour production due to the
>recording equipment.
>But I do care about it.

Get out of here!! Those albums have far better production than most all 
modern albums and all Rush albums since Hemispheres.

>In that sense, Caress of Steel is not acceptable for me although it has great
>stuff.

I went out and bought it for sound quality alone.

>On a contrary, I'm quite satisfied with the sound production of Moving 
>Pictures.(Recording system significantly evolved in early 80's?)

Well, it's fantastic too.

>[oops, lost a line]
>Hemispheres and A Farewell to The Kings? (I assume there are few problems on
>Signals and Grace under pressure.)

Kings is among their best albums musically. Sonics are up there.
The production on later albums such as Grace is horrible.

bill s
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: jamesb@nevada.edu (James Bender)
Subject: Re: Chronicles - the video collection
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Distribution: alt
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 03:18:06 GMT

>>The big money. The bastards had shortened the song! I wonder if
>>Mr. Big got its name after this video. A nice video. 
>>Time stand still. It could have been better. The boys jumping
>It was okay, but I didn't like them floating around and all that.

	Mystic Rhythms was a good video too. I liked all those animated toys
(at least I think they were toys.)

*******************************************************************************
* From: James B     * "Life is a diamond you turn into dust."                 *
* jamesb@nevada.edu *                                       -- N. Peart       *
*******************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: mcr1@quads.uchicago.edu (mark conley roller)
Subject: Re: Signals- how it fared in the poll
Reply-To: mcr1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 22:06:14 GMT



Adam responded to me by saying:
> The keyboard playing is something you overlookd though.
(sorry for the rough translation)

anyway, I did not mention them because it seems to me when ever Signals
is brought up, that is all that is mentioned, so I wanted to bring other
aspects to the forefront... but you are absolutely correct. Geddy does
a good job with them. Check out solo on Countdown..

Also, I agree with Power Windows and pearts drumming. Very good... also,
check out Hemispheres. Peart does some excellent stuff, with very different
styles on different tracks. Modern Drummer picked Peart's moving pictures
effort as one of the top 25 drumming albums ever. Also, if you think Peart
is the master, check out a dude named Dave Weckl. I would suggest to anyone
who is an afficianado of drumming to check him out. His Albums are Master
Plan and Head's UP, and he also plays on most of the latest Chick Corea 
Albums. Intense drummer!! Different style than Peart, but nonetheless very
good.

Anyway have a good one.. 
Chris
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: ja51359@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (axelrod)
Subject: Re: Sound Production of Early Albums?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:03:25 GMT

dan@rat.csc.calpoly.edu (Dan Delany) writes:

>According to my calculations, a-feygin@uiuc.edu typed...
>> ja51359@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (axelrod) writes:
>> } feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin) writes:
>> } >ja51359@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (axelrod) writes:
>> } >} feygin@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Alexander Feygin) writes:
>> } >} >Just bought GUP on CD yesterday and was NOT impressed with the
>> } >} >sound quality.
>> } >} Alex, you suck.  Your ears are made of horse droppings.
>> } >Just for that you cant borrow it
>> } Fine, then I'll steal it next time I come over.
>> I'll just steal it back being that you never lock your door

>Please take this to email.

Okay, I think I will.  I'm sorry.  Alex, aren't you sorry too?

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: kleiner@nexus.yorku.ca (Ron_M_Kleiner)
Subject: Tour Books
Organization: York University, CS Dept. Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:28:36 GMT

Which tour books are available from The Backstage Club (or elsewhere,
I suppose), and for how much?

Thanks,
Ron