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From: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Deer Claims Another; Thoughts
Date: 21 Jul 92 20:56:28 GMT
Reply-To: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com

In article <JEP.92Jul21141223@thneed.cs.duke.edu> jep@cs.duke.edu (Jonathan E.  
Polito) writes:
> 
> In article <9900936@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)  
writes:
>    [ story of a motorcyclist colliding with a deer and some useful
>    thoughts on emergency equipment ]
> 
>    On a different scale, this lady's choice to (a) not wear a helmet and (b)  
to
>    ride at dusk/dark in deer territory, severely traumatized about 12 people  
who
>    came to her aid. These individual strangers contributed time, material and
>    emotional energy on her behalf, all because they felt it to be right. 
>    (and that the law requires rendering assistance.......)
> 
>    I think that she made a thoughtless choice that imposed unnecessarily upon
>    the kindness of strangers. Frankly, MY first reaction was not of  
compassion
>    but was of rage. HOW COULD SHE BE SO ALMIGHTY STUPID TO BE RIDING WITHOUT
>    A HELMET!!!!! She is free to choose to ride helmetless but I, nor any of
>    the helpers was free to let her die unattended.  Two of the helpful 
>    strangers remarked that this was the second motorcycle accident that they
>    had been first on-scene with in 2 weeks. (The other was a squid-boy that
>    ran off the road when travelling the Masonville Rd. in a pack.) 
> 
>    When you reject the "cost to society" argument, please remember that you
>    are also spitting in the face of suddenly involved strangers who will be 
>    inconvenienced by your decision. They cannot spit back at you as you lie 
>    unconscious and bleeding on (or off) the road.
> 
>    Ride Safe,
>    Ron Miller
>    1988 R100GS
> 
> 
> What kind of TV land do you live in that your priorities are so askew?
> How can you say that you are inconvenienced by someone dying that
> requires your help? There are not too many things more important than
> life.  Next time your mother/wife/child needs to be rushed to the
> hospital and you are not around you better hope that others don't
> think like you or at least don't spend an hour wondering what the law
> requires them to do. 
> 
> Man talk about cold.
> Jonathan.
> --

Talk about missing the point...

What kind of reality are you living in ? He was THERE !  He as every right to
bitch. He had to face the ugly reality of someone lying mangled on the  
pavement. Being an intelligent rider, he could only wonder why a fellow
rider would choose not to wear a helmet. Get a clue buddy, and realize 
that he DID stop and help. He even went so far as to spread the word
about it so that others might learn from it, and be better prepared to offer
help to others in a similar situation. 

Maybe you confused this group with alt.flame ?

Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com
DOD# 810
1992 FJ1200A
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: u108502@beta.lanl.gov (Andrew Poutiatine)
Subject: Ducati For Sale
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:39:17 GMT



  Well, its tough to do, but I need the money and I am selling my
900ss.  It is a 1992 with only 900 miles on it.  With the tank bag and repair  
manual (half in Italian no less), I'd like $7,800.  It has lived its brief
stay with me in Santa Fe, New Mexico.

  Please respond via E-mail to Andrew Poutiatine at u108502@beta.lanl.gov.

	-AIP   
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spindler@emr1.emr.ca (Chris Spindler)
Subject: Early 80's Ducati 900SS (was: Re: Ducati for sale)
Summary: Bet you boots there was
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:26:22 GMT

         [ a little judicious editing]

>->I do not know how this post originated, but Ducati was making 900SS's
>->in 1980.  They were the old bevel drive motors but they were called
>->900ss.

>No way, man.  I have never heard of a Ducati 900SS from that time
>period.  If they did, they must not have sold very many, 'cause
>I've never seen one.

By this definition, a great many bikes must not exist.  Think of all those
people who have spent years customising their bikes, only to have them decay
to spooge before their eyes - just because they no longer resemble the stock
model.

The 1980 900SS greatly resembles it's smaller relative pictured in PANTAH.GIF.

The local Ducati dealer has one for sale here (~$6800, black).  Most
uncomfortable seat in the known universe - somewhere there's a park
bench that's missing a few slats. :-)  But it looks _very_ nice.

> DUCATI 900SS  BMW K100RS                 
  ------------

The 1980 or the 1990 model ? :-)

-- 
                  Chris Spindler - Seismologist @ Large       
   '86 Ninja 1000R   - - - - - - - -  o    Never ascribe to malice       
   '91 550 Zephyr  - - - - - - - -  _/\_>    what is easily explained    
    DoD #6371    - - - - - - - -   O,> / O     by stupidity.             
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns)
Subject: Best Oil: round three
Originator: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 23:27:18 GMT

All this chatter about the "best" oil reminds me of a 
conversation I had with my Beemer dealer about oil.

I mentioned the obvious virtues of synthetics.  He mentioned an
experiment he did.  He was on a late model boxer with a temperature
gauge in the oil dip-stick hole.  He was running a synthetic, I forget
which one and noted that his temperature was high, over 240 F.  He
immediatedly changed to a high quality standard oil and the temperature
dropped 15-20 F.  All other driving conditions were the same.

I just had a 500 mile day on my PD.  It was warm for some sections and
at speed the indicated temp on my oil dipstick temp gauge was on
the order of 230-240 degrees.  While riding through Missoula, slow
stop-and-start riding in the heat of the day, I noticed that the 
temperature was over 260 F.  I am using Mobil 1.  I stopped for lunch.

Has anyone compared the temperature of a running engine under
similar conditions with a synthetic and normal oil?  

What should be the standard running temps for oil in a boxer or other
air-cooled engine?

Even if the temp drops with a nonsynthetic oil, does that indicate
anything important?

No, I have not calibrated my oil temp gauge...yet.

Ride Free,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu if you feel compelled to send email
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu if you seriously expect an answer
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FJ1200 R100GS/PD 740GLE  KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)
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If you understand, things are just as they are;
If you do not understand, things are just as they are.
                                                        Zen verse
From: tanner@cerritos.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Road Rider (was: Oil Additive Scoop) 
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:19:04 PST
Organization: Cerritos College, Norwalk CA

In article <697@zx11.UUCP>, joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
> the august issue of Road Rider has a very good writeup of oil additives
> suck as slick 50 and a whole bunch of others. this is "must" reading material
> IMHO, so do what you can to get ahold of a copy.

My spies at Road Rider say that the response to consumer info articles is very
positive and that the current subtitle (Motorcycle Consumer News) will be the
new magazine title.  I was asked for opinions from the net.

-Bruce
-- 
Bruce Tanner        (310) 860-2451 x 596    Tanner@Cerritos.EDU
Cerritos College    Norwalk, CA             cerritos!tanner
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: heathman@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Michael Heathman)
Subject: RE:  Favorite Gear
Originator: heathman@harriett.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:57:45 GMT

	5th gear, 500 miles from home, no destination but the horizon.

 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -  Mike Heathman           XV920 - Jezebel           DoD #0284               -
 -  Lilly Research           T500 - Titan (Awaiting Resurrection)             -
 -  Indianapolis, IN        "Where am I to go, now that I've gone too far?    -
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dwells@cognet.ucla.edu (David Wells)
Subject: Yamaha dealer in la
Organization: UCLA Cognitive Science Program
Distribution: la
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:38:27 GMT

Well, I've decided to get a Seca II; now I have to find a good dealer.
Any suggestions?  I've been to Del Amo Hollywood Yamaha, and they seem
cool, but I haven't started haggling with them yet...  Also, what is a
decent out-the-door price for a Seca II?


thanks,
David
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:53:39 EDT
From: Michael B. Smith <MBS116@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want 2B DoD #1428
 <viking.711913359@vincent1.iastate.edu>

In article <viking.711913359@vincent1.iastate.edu>, viking@iastate.edu (Dan
Sorenson) says:
>
> Michael B. Smith <MBS116@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>>I would like to be ordained as Do #1428.
>                                ^^^
>        Hey, whatever floats yer boat.  "I hereby appoint you Do number
>1428."  Would you like a DoD number to go with that?  How about a hot
>apple pie?
>
>>Keeper of the List, Hear my prayers.
>
>        The KoTL doesn't take prayers, only e-mail.  Sorry about that, but
>those are the breaks.
>
><Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"There'll be angels on Ariels in leather>
><z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | and chrome, Ridin' down from heaven    >
><viking@iastate.edu      | just to carry me home." -- R. Thompson >
>< ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee. >
>
Good thing I just bought some asbestos underwear. Let just say I am
proud to be Do #1428. 8-) Kinda feel like I was the only one that thought
it was a costume party.

Michael B. Smith
1987 Magna
Formerly Do #1428
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jep@cs.duke.edu (Jonathan E. Polito)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Held 275 Racing Gloves Crash Test
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:20:50 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Duke University CS Dept., Durham, NC



The is the crash test resulting from the 1st Annual RCR crash. The
crash was a low side at approx. 40mph. I slid on asphalt and then slid
shortly on dirt/gravel.

Held 275 Racing Gloves.  These gloves held up well except for the
rivet patch which ripped off the palm. I was quite unhappy with this
and thought it defective. I talk to Helmut from Helimot (the US
distributor) yesterday and he explained that that is actually a
feature of the design (only single stitched) to save the glove and you
from more serious damage. He told me to send in the glove for repair
and told me about a new patch that they can put on the glove that
actually gives more protection. It is Nomex back also and covers the
palm slider area and around the thumb. It is a custom piece of leather
and a custom job that Helimot does since the factory won't supposedly
adopt this addition for another year or so.

Stay tuned.
--
Jonathan Polito                                      DoD #x (K 100)
jep@cs.duke.edu                                  jpolito@encore.com 
              "You Don't Say...." --- Sylvia Plath
From: dlyons@necis.UUCP (Dave Lyons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Reducing the "numbed hand" syndrome
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:10:59 GMT
Organization: NEC Information Systems, Acton, MA

In article <1992Jul27.143316.15683@bnrmtl.bnr.ca>, sproulx@bmtlh182.BNR.CA (Stephane Proulx) wrote:
> 
> The fact is that it is only the right hand that is numbed,
> indicating that the vibration of the bike is not the only factor. 
> Two reasons appears to cause the "syndrome". 
 
 . . .  (possible hand-numbing stuff deleted)

> Tell me if the wrist stuff works for you or if it's only my imagination...

Well, just looking at the rather ugly scars where my wrists used to be
will tell you that it may or may not be the bike.  There have already
been lots of discussions about CTS here on rec.moto so I won't go into
all the details.  Those of us that both ride and use computers have a
double dose of CTS causing problems.  Your thoughts about keeping your
wrist straight (or bent slightly down) are a good way to stave off
problems from riding.  Keeping your keyboard down (or your chair up)
is a good way to hold the typists problems at bay too (i.e. don't rest
your wrists on the edge of the keyboard).  One thing I learned from
the doc who did my surgery was to pay VERY close attention to your
ring fingers (that's the finger next to the one you use to wave at
cagers).  Your ring finger sense of touch is supplied by both of the
major nerves in your arm, one nerve for the half next to your pinky
and one for the half next to your middle finger.  Excessive vibrations
will affect both and your whole finger should react the same (numb or
tingling).  CTS affects mostly the nerve that serves the inboard side
(toward the middle finger) of your ring finger.  If you notice that
your index, middle and HALF your ring finger get numb while the other
half of your ring finger and pinky are still OK, you may want to get
it checked out medically.  This isn't any kind of a guarantee of
figuring out what's causing your numb hands but I've been through the
worst part of CTS and it's not much fun.
                                                -- Dave --
-- 
***************************************************************************
DaveJ Lyons       DoD #0633         dlyons@necis.nec.com  (603)878-2567 BBS
Opinions expressed are mine. My company doesn't even know I'm here (Shhhh!)
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Phil Stone)
Subject: Re: !!! SUMMER RIDING SUIT RAFFLE !!!
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:35:32 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.233841.24782@infonode.ingr.com> jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com writes:
>Hey. I know you hate this. I wouldn't do it if I wasn't forced to. Believe me,
>I hate getting my arm twisted as much as you do. But then you already knew 
>that, didn't you?
>
>[stares at ceiling tiles for awhile]
>
>Allright. I'll let you off easy, _this_ time. 
>
>But Monday. Ahh, that's a different story.
>
>AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Remember folks, he *wants* to hear from you.

All it takes is one stroke of the 'R' key (in 'rn,' at least) to 
politely tell Mr. Reed that, "thanks anyway, but take your stupid
fucking summer riding suit ripoff raffle blackmail and cram it,
high-colonically..."

Including a termcap file or binary image of Unix in your reply is
not recommended (but protected by our treasured First Amendment).

A mere twenty thousand replies per Reed-spew ought to take care of
this annoyance.


 Phil Stone         (phil@eos.arc.nasa.gov | ...ames!eos!phil)
 '83 R80ST               DoD #95              "Motorcycles OK"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: Cops show- Motorcycle wreck
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:46:31 GMT

In article <14hbjoINNlpi@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM writes:
>In article 213@halfdome.sf.ca.us, laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us
(Laurie Abbott) writes:
>>if you make a "california stop" (i.e., the classic "pause and go"),
>
>S T O P =  Slightly Tap On Pedal
>
>Are many of the hills in SF 3-way stops (don't stop going up)?

No.  Uphill traffic has to stop, too, and re-start on
the hill.

Bill Cosby once wrote a comedy routine around the idea
of driving a VW Bug around San Francisco.  It was even
funnier in retrospect, after the first time I drove
a laden VW on those hills myself.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Asbestos Removal, DoD #1428
Date: 25 Jul 1992 02:10:00 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <92206.162913MBS116@psuvm.psu.edu> Michael B. Smith <MBS116@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>After riding that POS 200 cc bike to LA and back I've done it. The only real
>problem was the Clown Suit, the drag was tremendous, shifting was difficult,
>and the nose would fall off at 60 mph. Although I did make a few bucks at
>childrens' parties throughout Colorado.

OK.  I'm not BSing at all when I say that I have personally seen
a guy dressed in full clown suit riding his Honda 250cc scooter
down I-35 to San Marcos, just south of Austin.  His shoes were
completely unable to fit on the floorboard, so they stuck out
sideways like outriggers.  It made my trip.

-
-John H. Osborn
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu
-DOD# 2001 '92 BMW Paris-Dakar
From: mstoller@gdalsrv.sas.upenn.edu (Matthew E. Stoller)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: New $$$=New bike?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:02:10 GMT
Organization: Social Science Computing, University of Pennsylvania

In article <Brw8zM.F57@gtsi.com> rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence) writes:

>What would you do if your income increased by 57%? I have had the good fortune
>to secure a heavily yuppified position for myself. I was making good peanuts 
>before, but now I'm making big peanuts (let's just say more than twice my age
>in K).

The obvious solution is to buy me a new motorcycle - or you could just give 
me your Seca II.  :-)

>So, the question is: What kind of bike am I going to get? The poor Seca II is
>barely broken in, and I kinda feel like I can't sell her yet, because that
>would be cruel. But I caught myself the other day in the parking lot looking
>at my friends V-Max and thinking "Hmmmmmmmmm....."

How much do you ride? Is it commuting? trips? a combination? Do you want to 
ride on road? off road? both?

Do you like the cruiser look? standard? touring? sport touring? sport? dual-
sport?

Where do you live?  Do you have a secure place to put that shiny new bike?
(If you have a secure place, wouldn't it be nice to own a new Ducati - 
although I saw a new MotoGuzzi (LeMans??) sport bike and had to keep 
reminding myself what the penalty for grand theft was)


I would like to get a Concours (my current moto has an effective range of 
under 100 miles on a tank - that 7.7gal tank on the Concours is mighty 
appealing), I would just like to get it with ABS and for under $1500 :-)


>So, what are the Denizen suggestions? We'll take it as a given that there are
>suggestions for FJ1200's and ZX-11's.
>-- 
>Rich Lawrence - "Stinger" - DoD#9630 '92 Seca II - Buckaroo Banzai lives!
>Sysop/Hallucination: Full UseNet,Fido,Relay, 2GB+ IBM/Amiga  1-703-425-5824
>    rich@halluc.com   rich@gtsi.com   CI$:71101,2272   Fido:1:109/345
> HEY YOU! Are you going to the East Coast DoD thing or not? Read rec.moto!

Matt Stoller
mstoller@gdalsrv.sas.upenn.edu
'79 GS 750L
DoD # -1
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mfisch@pdx064.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Matthew Fisch)
Subject: Re: 1993 GSXRs
Reply-To: mfisch@ichips.intel.com
Organization: Workgroup Computing Division, PDX, Intel	
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:04:08 GMT

In article <l7bd84INN253@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead]) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul28.182739.20159@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> david@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov (David Robinson) writes:
|> >In article <Bs41In.Cup@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> rblander@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca (Robyn Landers) writes:
|> >|In article <1992Jul28.012838.9152@ichips.intel.com> mfisch@ichips.intel.com writes:
|> >|>
|> >|	A couple of similar items, seen in this month's Cycle Canada:
|> >|-1993 Suzuki GSXR1100 will be liquid cooled like the 750 already is (here)
|> >
|> >Any word on how it compares to the '92 GSXR1100?
|> 
|>  Heavier. Slower. More truck-like handling.
|> 
|>  More GSXR for more bucks.. 
|> 
|>  :->
|> 
|>  (donning asbestos underwear)
|> 
|>  Stefan
|> --

 Come on Stef, your editor is screwed up, I didn't post the stuff about
the GSXRs.  I had a comment about the new ZX-11 (which you conveniently
deleted and tacked my name to another comment)...but since you have your
asbestos underwear on...what's the matter, jealous cause my "truck-like"
GSXR pulls your FZR on the straighaways ???  Oh...just wait until the next
race at PIR, I'm putting in extra smelly "diesel" so you can get a good whiff
as I rocket past you.  Maybe I should strip some serious weight off it
(i.e, bring 'er down to "700" lbs), nah, don't want the shock wave to blow
you over when I pass.

  Please don't bump me too hard when I hit the corners :->

-- 
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|   Matt Fisch								     |
|   mfisch@ichips.intel.com						     |
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|                          #75 - Team Banana Racing 			     |
|				SUZ GSXR-1186				     |
|									     |
|  "Just a little too much right hand and the Australian Grand Prix is over  |
|   for Kevin Schwantz..."						     |
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From: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Mobil 1  - another data point
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:16:15 GMT
Reply-To: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com


	The FJ just turned 3k over the weekend so it was time another
oil change. I decided on Mobil 1, based on what I have read here, and my own
experience with it in my car. The change was immediately noticeable. The
bike's shifting effort went down dramatically, as did overall engine vibration.
It's hard to explain, but the engine seems to run smoother, and rev a little
more easily than it did. I didn't get a chance to engage warp drive, so I'm
not sure how it's affected overall power. It was worth it (imho) just to
improve the FJ's classic "trans-mushion". Of course a smoother engine and
a (probable) slight power increase are nice too. No clutch slippage or other
negatives to report yet (hopefully ever).

Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com
DOD# 810
1992 FJ1200A

Keeping the rubber side down, and the rear tire behind me . . .(and cages WAY
                                                                behind me)