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From: ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup proposal: alt.amateur-computerist
Reply-To: ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:41:57 GMT




In a previous article, ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) says:

>
>              alt.amateur-computerist Charter
> 
>     Alt.amateur-computerist is a conference where readers
>and writers can discuss the articles and subjects that appear in 

Because of a helpful email response that pointed out that with the 
- the name was too long for his machine -

we are suggesting that the name be instead
              alt.amateur.computerist



                                 Ronda

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood - EVENSONG)
Subject: Re: proposel for alt.politics.putting.people.first (moderated)
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:18:42 GMT

karl@ima.isc.com (Karl Heuer) writes:

`I suggest that alt.org.people-first would be a better name.

Allright, then what has to be done to get the group started.  As I have
already stated, I would believe (and prefer) that the group be moderated
and I am willing to volunteer my time to do so.  This would help to cut
down on unecessary band width from flames and could help me to keep the
subject matter away from becoming one big advertisement for the PPF lobby.

Instead, I would like to see a forum opened for discussion of PPF topics.
(and do not wish to cut down the replies from opposing view points by
way of moderation - just cut out malicious or non-essential posts)

Someone let me know what I need to do so as I can get this thing rolling.

swood
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From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.polyamory,alt.personals
Subject: Re: Newsgroup proposal: alt.personals.poly
Date: 30 Aug 92 16:28:29 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA

In article <4126@n7kbt.rain.com> john@n7kbt.rain.com (John Opalko) writes:

>Recognizing that that is his right, I have volunteered to run an anonymous
>contact service for people who are in relationships that do not follow the
>tradition of monogamy.
>
>To that end, I will soon be creating a new newsgroup: alt.personals.poly.

Why not post your anonymous messages to the existing
alt.personals.ads?

-- 
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\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  has in the gay community."
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Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.rave,rec.music.industrial
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: What's all this REC. ALT. talk about anyway???
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 18:40:40 GMT

In <1992Aug27.162007.25206@javelin.sim.es.com> pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown) writes:
>mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown) writes:
>>their own newsgroup.  "they like techno but they don't like rave".  And
>>watch out for the two Petes; flame-a-rama going on there - they are at each
>>other's throats over this.
>Quite the contrary, we're both at EIVERSO's throat over this.  As far as I
>know, all the Pete's are on the same side of the ring.

I know this pete is on the same side as the pete I'm quoting. :-)
-- 
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             If we do not succeed, then we run the risk of failure
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: lexier@fraser.sfu.ca (Lyle Lexier)
Subject: Re: CREATION OF ALT.WANTED.PROSTITUTE
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 05:58:20 GMT

qasama@guardian.WPI.EDU (John Grossi) writes:

>In article <r0fnt!g.rdc@netcom.com> rdc@netcom.com (Rachel Dafni Christy) writes:

>Hey, Rachel why not tell just tell the police?

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There is no need to call the police, if it is legal to have prostitution.
At least in Vancouver, it is maybe dangerous for prostitutes to remain on 
city corners, but it is not illegal.  Police should be called for more
urgent matters instead like murder, rape, robbery, etc.
 
Lyle

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: edd709psft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: What's all this REC. ALT. talk about anyway???
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:06:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.193307.4967@bradley.bradley.edu>, dave@bradley.bradley.edu (David Vessell) writes:
> ml103504@cc.tut.fi (Lehtim{ki Marko) writes:
> 
>>Simply, REC/ALT.music.techno would be something really INTERESTING...
> 
> But it would be redundant.  alt.rave fits the bill now, all the discussion
> is there, so there's no real reason to make another group that's just going
> to talk about the same thing.  The crosspost percentage is going to be near
> 100 percent anyway.  That's a pretty bad sign.
> 
> I'm sure someone else has already said it, but a rec group would only go
> over if alt.rave were removed afterward.  I don't think it would pass vote.
> 
>>I vote YESS! (I speak for all of us! [.sig])
> 
> I'm afraid you don't speak for folks here....
> 
> -- 
> =========*davE*.....making the world safe for intelligent dance music.=========
>        "The city looks pretty in pink....Armageddon is here." -- Erasure
> --(David Vessell)--(Bradley University Computing Services)-(dave@bradley.edu)--
Could somebody please inform me what the difference is between having the
newsgroup as alt.rave and rec.music.techno or rec.rave or whatever????
(I have just picked up on this argument).
If something is good, why change it? AND having two newsgroups with exactly the
same articles is ludicrous not to mention a waste of bandwidth.

I apologize if there is a diff. between alt. groups and rec. groups, but still
I can't see the advantage in having two groups.

neXus.
(aka Jason Watson - edd709p@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au OR
		    edd709psft@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au)

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From: rpwhite@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: ALT.PROSTITUTES
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:50:20 GMT
Reply-To: rpwhite@cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite)
Followup-To: alt.config,news.groups
Organization: Elkhorn Yacht Club, Moss Landing CA

It would be more appropriate if this group were to be named:

misc.forsale.sex

there could even be regional groups such as:

ba.market.sex

rp -- I see a great need.
Newsgroups: alt.config,soc.men,alt.feminism
From: ppessi@vipunen.hut.fi (Pekka Pessi)
Subject: Re: Alt.feminism
Followup-To: alt.feminism
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<PPESSI.92Aug28052443@vipunen.hut.fi>
	<1992Aug28.070714.8897@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: 29 Aug 92 01:06:10

In article <1992Aug28.070714.8897@news.acns.nwu.edu> Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>>>tj> What concerns me more about moderation (and was the very
>>>tj> issue that caused me to agree to this group) is the fact
>>>tj> that "moderators" are entering into the "debate".
>>
>>>=o= There are several moderators for soc.feminism, and they are
>>>a diverse group.  In instances where a moderator -- let's call
>>>her Moderator A -- enters into the debate, her article is
>>>submitted for approval by the other moderators.  
>>
>>	This is simply not true. First article that I checked was
>>	posted and moderated by cindy (<2A773B7D.15723@ics.uci.edu>).
>>	However, muffy seems to be constantly approving her articles
>>	by other moderators.

>This was explained elsewhere (I think) as a technical problem.

	Technical problems are weak excuses for laziness. What
	technical problem prevents cindy from sending email to her
	fellow moderators? 

>>	How can I tell what kind of articles were rejected by reading
>>	the moderated newsgroup? I have found articles written and
>>	approved by moderator; so only your verifiable claim is
>>	untrue. What I should think of your other claims?

>Soc.feminism has an ftp archive on the machine which sends mail to the
>moderators. I believe that this includes all submissions, rejected
>or approved (barring techincal difficulties).  Therefore it is easier
>to judge moderation policy on soc.feminism than most moderated groups.

	There is no mention of this archive in the FAQ of
	soc.feminism. If there was such an archive, I would be quite
	irritated of this major source to "the Complete Stupidities of
	Pekka Pessi". However, latest archives of soc.feminism in
	ncar.ucar.edu dated April 1991. Is there later archives
	somewhere?

Note: 	Followup-to is set to alt.feminism.
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From: gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO)
Newsgroups: alt.config,comp.programming,comp.bbs.misc,soc.culture.usa,comp.society.futures,alt.zines
Subject: Re: Newsgroup proposal: alt.amateur-computerist
Date: 31 Aug 92 20:13:08 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

In article <1992Aug27.161943.28125@news.ysu.edu> ae547@yfn.ysu.edu (Ronda Hauben) writes:


>              alt.amateur-computerist Charter
> 
>     Alt.amateur-computerist is a conference where readers
>and writers can discuss the articles and subjects that appear in 
>the electronic and printed newsletter "The Amateur Computerist".  

	[BLAHBLAHBLAH]	

>  One of the reasons for proposing this group is that there is
>currently no place on usenet that we know of where issues involving
>computers and workers are dealt with.

Whoever gave you the idea this was a serious group?
From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: NEW GROUP proposed for ALT - alt.sabaean - comments welcome
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:10:55 GMT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Sep2.035647.1527@ddsw1.mcs.com>,
 karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) writes:
> I would like to create alt.sabaean.  The group's purpose would be to discuss
> the various aspects of Sabaean philosophy and religion both as it relates to
> contemporary life and the heritage which brought us to this point.

How about calling it alt.philosophy.sabaean or alt.religion.sabaean.
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From: ccs@aber.ac.uk (Christopher "Jd" Samuel)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: NEW GROUP proposed for ALT - alt.sabaean - comments welcome
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:18:38 GMT
Organization: University of Wales - Aberystwyth - Prifysgol Cymru

In article <1992Sep2.035647.1527@ddsw1.mcs.com>
   karl@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Karl Denninger) doodled:

> I would like to create alt.sabaean. [...]

[... lots deleted ...]

This looks like a candidate for the alt.culture hierarchy, assuming that
there is enough interest in the group.. 

- Chris
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From: mbm@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Malcolm Mladenovic)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.tv.blakes7
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:25:09 GMT
Organization: UNIX Centre, ICL, Bracknell, UK

In article <TPPXPB1w164w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> ekho.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:
>I am among the group of people who asked for input on the newsgroup.  As 
>of today, I have recieved over 30 positive responses, and only one of 
>them gave an opinion that it may be redundant.  The reason that we wish 
>to create this group is so that those of us who like Blakes 7 don't have 
>to hunt around any groups that articles _may_ be posted on, invariably 
>missing a few of them...  Also, it is a way that the show can be 
>discussed without worry of flamers asking why, for the Nth time, we are 
>discussing X episode... (we just love doing it! :-))
>
>The concensus of my group is to attempt to create a rec. group.  An RFD 
>is being drafted up even now.  If the attempt fails, we will create an 
>alt. group.  We prefer the idea of a rec. group because, as many of the 
>responses told me,  not everyone has access to the alt. groups.  By 
>creating the rec. group, those people will be able to enjoy it as well as 
>adding their own input (which is much desired! ;))

I have no objection to waiting for a rec group if most of the people actively
seeking the group creation prefer it.   I'll vote for it if a CFV is issued
and I'd certainly read and probably post in whichever group gets created in
the end.

In the meantime rec.arts.tv.uk or rec.arts.sf.tv seem like the appropriate
places to discus Blake's 7 but we probably ought to pick one of them and
stick to it so people know where to look (since it will take at least 2
months to create a mainstream group).

-Malcolm
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf)
Subject: Re: rec.music.techno -- no
Reply-To: agnus@amylnd.stgt.sub.org (Matthias Zepf)
Organization: Agnus' new home, Leonberg/Warmbronn, Germany
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 07:24:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug24.122656.20200@cc.tut.fi> ml103504@cc.tut.fi
(Lehtim{ki Marko) writes:
> Simply, REC/ALT.music.techno would be something really INTERESTING...
> I vote YESS! (I speak for all of us! [.sig])

Techno?? -- Just say no!!

So thats my 2 cents ...

Matthias
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky)
Subject: Re: alt.hurricane.andrew
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:08:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.162219.19698@amhux2.amherst.edu> twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>Now why, I ask, was this not created under alt.current-events?

    Because, Tim, some people feel the urge to create a new and
    senseless alt group as often as they change their underwear.  
    Uh, check that, I meant to say as frequently as they eat.

    Folks, newsgroups aren't intended to be passive things like the
    headline on the daily newspaper.  They are permanent and remain in
    alt forever.  Speaking as a news admin, I don't check alt daily,
    deciding which newsgroups should be rmgrouped and which shouldn't.

    If practice like this continues, it won't be awfully long before it
    will begin to be a strain on the software for smaller machines.

    People wonder why it's not easy to find an alt feed in Chicago!

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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.planetary.science
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:06:24 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.082048.12153@sq.sq.com> msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
>> I see no good reason why alt.planetary.science wouldn't fit that bill just
>> fine.  I forsee a lare amount of participation. The charter would be the same
>> as was suggested in the CFV on sci.space etc. [for sci.space.planets].
>> Comments?
>
>Same comment as I made in the sci.space.planets discussion.  There's too
>much confusion now between sci.space and sci.astro and what goes in each
>one.  Adding another closely related group would just make it worse.

I would think that more organization, more structure, would *reduce*
confusion.


-- 
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Perpetual Student                                   knapp@spot.colorado.edu
From: twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: alt.hurricane.andrew
Date: 30 Aug 92 16:22:19 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA

Now why, I ask, was this not created under alt.current-events?

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Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.arts.tv
From: lksmith@truth.uucp (Smith)
Subject: Re: NEXP: creation of alt.tv.nexp (Northern Exposure)
Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, Ma.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 15:09:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.154248.6469@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> skippy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Ian Chesterton) writes:
>The CBS show "Northern Exposure", while only entering it's third season,
>has sparked much interest and discussion on rec.arts.tv.  Its recent
>Emmy success will provide many new viewers in the Fall.  The discussions
>on rec.arts.tv about this show range from the music in the episodes to
>the actors themselves.  I believe that there are many people who actually
>go through rec.arts.tv (like myself) and do searches for "NX" or "NEXP"
>keywords.  The bandwidth on rec.arts.tv is much, much too high for the
>casual reader to plunge through.  
>
>I propose that an "alt.tv" or "alt.fan" group be created for Northern Exposure
>and/or the works of Falsey and Brand (the producers of NEXP, I'll Fly Away,
>and Going to Extremes).  The newsgroup would cover episode guides; discussion
>on actors, books, episodes, music, photos, quotes, scripts, and videos. As
>this is only a "young" show, I do not think it has the power or following
>for a rec.arts newsgroup. Thus, an "alt" newsgroup would be more appropriate.
>
>I welcome any discussion on the name or charter of this group.
>
>--- Ian ---
>skippy@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
>"Just another NEXP fan."
>
>-- 
>"Sir ... I protest!  I am not a merry man!"
>					   - Worf, Q-Pid


I definitely suppport this.  I'm one of the "nx" and "nexp" searchers.
I do check out other articles at times (my husband and I recently
discovered Married With Children :-) ), but NEXP is my second 
favorite and not-to-be-missed show, the first being Trek TNG.  A
Northern Exposure alt. group (or a Falsey/Brand concentration, though
I haven't seen IFA or the new GX -- maybe the group would provide me 
some further motivation to watch them :-) ) would be a good idea.
There's not much NEXP traffic right now, but as soon as the new
season starts, I'm sure it will increase.  (In fact, r.a.tv will
get very busy in a few weeks, of course...)

A definite YES vote from me!

Linda
lksmith@truth.mitre.org

Newsgroups: alt.config
From: greg@scs.leeds.ac.uk (Greg Fletcher)
Subject: Re: How do I start this group?
Summary: newsgroup duplication NOT!
Keywords: lame pickup lines
Organization: Mytholmroyd College, England
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:42:10 GMT

> The purpose of the group would be to provide a forum for people to exchange
> services. I am a graphic designer who has done barter with massage therapists
> for logo and business card design.

Get this crap outta here.  I suggest you try alt.personals.ads or similar.


> Creating a community through the wonders of the Internet

Gag!

Greg
Newsgroups: alt.config,talk.bizarre,alt.newbie,alt.religion.kigology
From: mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman)
Subject: Re: THANKS FOR ALT.LETTERMAN.FAN!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 01:48:42 GMT

rpwhite@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite) writes:

>mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman) writes:

>>BTW..who actually creats new newsgroups? Some elite net guru in 
>>DC or what?

>The alt. heirarchy is a benevolent oligarchic dictatorship. All the
>members of the oligarchy (also known as the net.cabal) discuss the new
>group and forward a recommendation to Great Leader Kibo
>(kibo@world.std.com). If Great Leader Kibo approves, he signifies such to
>Rachel Christy (rdc@netcom.com) at Net Command who performs the rites
>and creates the new group.

>rp -- hope this helps.

yes
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: knapp@spot.Colorado.EDU (David Knapp)
Subject: Proposal: alt.planetary.science
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:30:49 GMT


The vast majority of folks in sci.astro, sci.space, etc. wanted as indicated
by vote.  Sci.space.planets wasn't created due to the requirement that
more than 2/3 vote be got *AND* 100 more create than don't create votes be got.
Well, we didn't get the 100 more but there is a lot of interest in the group.

I see no good reason why alt.planetary.science wouldn't fit that bill just
fine.  I forsee a lare amount of participation. The charter would be the same
as was suggested in the CFV on sci.space etc.

Comments?
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Perpetual Student                                   knapp@spot.colorado.edu
From: omhoward@acsu.buffalo.edu (The God-Bitch Emperor of Snuggle Bunnies)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: CFV: Alt.fan.pat-robertson
Summary: Pat Robertson
Keywords: Vote!
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:40:24 GMT
Organization: UB


     We (I represent about 6 students) at the University @ Buffalo
feel that it is high time that we have a news group for the discussion
of the ideals and views of Pat Robertson and the 700 club.  We feel
that in addition to being a forum for the discussion of Pat Robertson
(he is a very political and very visible person); we beleive that it
will also provide a forum for the discussion of religous conservatism
in general.  

    Thanx your votes will be appreciated.

Have A Day
-Eftsne (Olu)
*Vox Domini*

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         ---------------------------     anyway..)