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From: tim@ial7.jsc.nasa.gov (Tim Sullivan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Oiler prospects?
Date: 14 Aug 1992 21:56:12 GMT
Organization: nasa-jsc

In today's paper(8/14) it stated that all 12 picks, will be with the team in
some form, practice squad, injured reserved, or active roster.  This is
very rare to occur among NFL teams, but it shows that the Oilers are
picking what they need.  While none of them
have been standouts, there are some that will contribute this year.

>I am particularly interested to hear news about 
>Eddie Robinson, Corey Harris, or any of last year's rookie db's (Dumas,
>Jackson, Lewis).

The coaches really like Eddie Robinson, and he will get a lot of playing
time this season.  Corey Harris will play, but be limited at first due
to his late start in training camp.  Dumas, Jackson, and Lewis will also
play, especially in passing situations.  The coaches seem to like
Jackson, as they think he has learned the NFL system the best
out of those three.  Look for all of their wide receivers to come in and
get playing time, no one knows much about these new receivers due to
missing parts of training camp or injuries.  It seems that Bailey and
Robinson will get the most playing time among the rookies.
From: aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Suggested trades for the Cowboys.
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:55:15 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <36905@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:
>In article <2250@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) wri
tes:
>>
>> >    5. With the Chargers:
>> >        [WARNING: this trade is rated PC for Potentially Contraversial]
>> >        Beuerlein for Seau. This is the second time I suggest this trade. I
>> >Let's see, the Cowboys got Beuerlein for a middle round draft pick, but
>> >they will trade him to the Chargers for a stud linebacker.
>>
>> What does this have to do with the trade?  Oh, I see, nothing.  The fact that
>> Beuerlein came for a fourth rounder doesn't mean that's what he's worth.
>> He's worth a heck of a lot more, especially to a team that has lost its
>> starting QB for the year -- a QB that wasn't as good as Beuerlein anyway.
>> San Diego would be worse without Seau, but without a QB they're *nothing*.
>> Very few teams have enough talent to make up for the loss of a starting QB.
>> The Eagles did, last year, and San Francisco, too; but on the other hand,
>> neither one of them made it to the playoffs.  The Cowboys only did because
>> they had Beuerlein at backup.
>> Daniel Welch
>
>
>Why would SD trade away their best defensive player for an
>over-rated backup QB? The Chargers were a 4-12 team last year,
>*with* Friesz as QB. They would have been thrilled with a 8-8
>season this year, with Freisz at QB. That still would not be enuf to
>make it into the playoffs. The points I am making is that
>
>1) Chargers are not as desperate for a QB as you think. They got
>Humphries now. So forget any more trades for a QB.
>2) They are not stupid to trade Seau to plug a short-term hole.
>Its not as if they were supposed to go deep into the playoffs with
>Freisz [this year].
>3) Beuerlein is over-rated, IMO. Watch him throw that 'heavy'
>out-pattern next time he plays. The ball hangs up there for ever.
>4) NFL GMs are not crazy to hand over star players to the Cowpokes.
>
>remember, the Chargers record will be
>
>- Seau + Beuerlein  4-12
>+ Seau - Beuerlein  8-8, if not better.
>
    You obviously don't know how good Beuerlein is. Where were you last year?
    Beuerlein helped the Cowboys beat the Skins in RFK, the Eagles in the
    vets, and the Bears in Chicago (playoffs). In all three games, the Cowboys
    were clearly the underdogs. He also helped them beat the Saints and
    Falcons (both teams made it to the playoffs). His stats were very good, 5
    TD's to 2 INT's.


>Case closed.
>Now, Aikman for Seau. I would consider that. #) #)

    Won't trade Aikman for all players on SD roster.

    Malik....
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Montana news
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:07:02 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Aug15.185622.1094@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com>, marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall) writes:
| Joe Montana's two-week rest period is up on Monday, and he was scheduled
| to start throwing again on Monday. Now the report from the team doctors
| is that "Montana's sore arm needs at least two more weeks of absolute
| rest" (quoting the Sacramento Bee), unless "something miraculous happens"
| (quoting Carmen Policy). The tendon itself which was operated on last
| year is OK, but the muscles on both sides of the tendon are extremely
| inflamed. So now it's unlikely that he will be ready for the season 
| opener on 6 Sep. Sigh...looks like we're getting yanked around again
| just like last year.

  You realize that if it were anyone but a football player the doctors
would be free to use steroids as part of the rehabilitation process...
if you or I had the operation and muscle problems, we could take
advantage of one of the legitimate medical uses of steroids.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Washington signs with the Cowboys
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:42:05 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

James Washington came to terms with Cowboys' management and reported to
camp yesterday.  This leaves Tolbert, Norton, Stepnoski, Irvin, and
Novacek still holding out.

Hopefully, Washington will give us some much needed support in the
secondary.  For now, though, he is listed at second string.

Daniel Welch
From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: POOL - Picks for Preseason Week #4 - DUE FRIDAY!! (REPOST)
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:41:22 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

Preseason Week 4
----------------

PLEASE DOUBLE CHECK THE FORM BEFORE MAILING IT!

Mail this form to davewood@cs.colorado.edu with the word "picks" in the
subject line.  Be sure to choose one and only one team for each game.  Mark
your choice with an 'x' in the appropriate box.  Put your initials after the
word "Initials:" (ON THE SAME LINE!) at the bottom of the form.  If you have
questions about this form, send them with the subject "fbproblem."  If you
still need to sign up, YOU MUST SEND A SEPARATE MESSAGE with the word
"signup" in the subject line.  Do not reply to this message unless it is to
send in your picks.  See the Rules/Signup post for more information.

WEIGHTS: Assign 10 points to 4 different games.
	 Assign  7 points to 5 different games.
	 Assign  5 points to 5 different games.

This form is due at 5pm PDT (12MID GMT (Sat)) on Friday, Aug 21.  NO EXCEPTIONS!

Do not remove anything below this line!

 WT  Away                       Home
*------------------------------------------------*
[  ] [ ] San Francisco		[ ] San Diego
[  ] [ ] Houston		[ ] New Orleans
[  ] [ ] Washington		[ ] LA Raiders
[  ] [ ] New England		[ ] Detroit
[  ] [ ] Indianapolis		[ ] Cincinnati
[  ] [ ] NY Giants		[ ] NY Jets
[  ] [ ] Tampa Bay		[ ] Miami
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[  ] [ ] Denver			[ ] Dallas
[  ] [ ] Phoenix		[ ] Seattle
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Date: Friday, 14 Aug 1992 15:39:17 EDT
From: Nathan Owen <32BFPQ3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Buckley wants to be traded ??

In article <1144@ceylon.gte.com>, chf0@newshost.gte.com (Curtis Fennell) says:
>
>I read in the Boston Globe today that Terrell Buckley has stated that
>he wants to be traded because the Packers aren't going to pay him
>enough money.  Now, having lived through all of the Miami signing
>"noise" this summer, I already know how much stock to place in these
>rumblings (ie, not much), but if Buckley is serious, I know a South
>Florida team who'd *love* to have him!!

This week's Sporting News suggests Atlanta is considering trading the
unhappy Andre Rison to Green Bay for the rights to Terrell Buckley.  Andre
Rison is holding out for big money, the Falcons have a ton of good recievers,
and the Falcons have a glaring hole in their backfield with Deion missing
a lot of the football season.
From: castillc@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Christopher R. Castillo)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:37:01 GMT
Subject: Re: Request for stats
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

/ hpcc01:rec.sport.football.pro / vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Vernon H Harmon) /  9:39 am  Aug 12, 1992 /
If anybody has any info on the following from LAST YEAR/SEASON in the
NFL I'd appreciate it if you could e-mail it to me.

quarterbacks
running backs
recievers
tight ends
defenses
special teams

pro-bowl lineups from the last four or so years....

thanks for any help
--Vernon.
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*I would like a copy as well!!!
*And if anyone has a list of the 1992 starting line-ups, I would
like a copy.
From: imprint@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (IMPRINT -- UW's Student Newspaper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Worst Rules in NFL
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:10:17 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <jf6nbdvm@csv.warwick.ac.uk> csuah@warwick.ac.uk (~WISP at CU~) writes:
>In article <55824.glh@[128.244.197.62]> glh@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (, Gene A. Heyler) writes:
>>
>>I vote for the sudden death (sudden victory?) rule, whereby a team can win
>>the game on a single possession. At least in baseball, both teams get to
>>bat in extra innings (imagine a game where the visting team scores in the
>>top of the tenth and the game is over????) and in basketball, hockey,
>>soccer, or any other sport, teams get multiple possessions in overtime.
>>
>>They should amend the rule so that if a team wins the toss and scores on
>>their first possession in overtime, the other team gets one more shot to
>>tie or win.
>
>Not in rugby union you don't. Not sure what happens in the league code, but in
>union, you definitely play sudden death...
>
>Later,
>
>The Wisp.
>-- 
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>     Chris Williams <csuah@uk.ac.warwick.csv> aka <csuah@csv.warwick.ac.uk>
>"Tony Greig in the slips, legs apart, waiting for a tickle"
>                                      Brian Johnson (thanks to A. Simha 8^>)

In sports that emphasize position of the ball on the field over possession, such
as soccer and rugby, both teams are probably going to touch the ball in an
OT period.  The chances of one team being the only team to touch it, and scoringin the first few seconds of OT are quite small.
In football, possession is so important that its OT rules can't be derived
from those of soccer, rugby, and hockey.

Peter Brown
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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Re: Eddie Brown (was Re: 49er/Raiders)
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:55:25 GMT

In article <l8d4jhINNhi2@cronkite> nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM writes:
>
>In article 6012@iscsvax.uni.edu, baker2668@iscsvax.uni.edu () writes:
>
>>BTW, I remember reading something that Eddie Brown of the Bengals was lost for
>>the season due to an injury.  Is this true?
>>
>>Bill
>
>
>He has a neck injury and I don't know if he is out for the year or not.
>He didn't play last night against the Giants though.
>
>Nate McConnell				|Undead:  MFL Coach of the Year 1991
>nate.mcconnell@sun.com			|         NFF Central Champs '91
>					|	  NFF East Champs '89 and '90
>

I heard on sports center (ESPN) that he will be out approx. 2 weeks that the
X-rays were negative (no breaks) thank God. I'd hate to see anybody else
ever suffer spinal trauma induced paralysis from football injuries again. I
wish something could be done to prevent it's reoccurence. OK I'm off the soap
box now.

John T.
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Hurricanes and Dolphins, my favorite weather phenomena and aquatic mammals, oh
and also my favorite football teams. And remember to always genuflect in Shula's
presence and to kiss his Super Bowl Rings. .........John "Dolphinatic" Turman
From: aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboy Cuts?
Date: 21 Aug 92 05:13:07 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <2277@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writ
es:
>In article <1992Aug19.002945.123015@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (
ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI) writes:
>>    I
>>    was surprised that James Brown was cut. I thought the coaches were pleased
>>    with him (according to DCW).
>                            ^^^
>
>What?!?  I never said any such thing! :^)
>
>Daniel Clayton Welch, who never noticed that before
>----
>"I'm a social giant" ---- Britt Baker, after three beers
>

    Dan, DCW refers to Dallas Cowboys Weekly. I should have spelled it to
    avoid confusion.

    Malik....
From: gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Vincent Signs with Dolphins (At last!)
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:42:05 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Aug13.161946.27665@makesys.com> john@makesys.com (John
Turman) writes: 
#27	Tyrone Lewis	5-9	190		R	West Virginia

From Virginia acutally.

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From: greco@sun.lclark.edu (Peter Greco)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Jerry Rice (was 49er tidbits)
Summary: Niners
Keywords: Niners
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:11:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Aug12.171139.14163
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In response to "49er tidbits", rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:

> Are they any closer to signing Rice? Does it look like he's going to hold 
> out for the season? Are positions becoming set in stone or are they still 
> talking?

Portland sports news actually had a brief on Jerry last night.  He has
apparently traveled to the Bay area to "continue his workouts."  I wasn't
sure if he did this because he is close to signing or what.

There was a short interview clip that had Jerry saying (not an exact quote):

  I'm worth 40 million.  I can go out there with any QB and take control
of the game.

Geez!  Confident?  Maybe.  Arrogant?  Undoubtedly.

Bottom line...the Niners would do well to get him signed fast.
-- 
Peter Greco <greco@lclark.edu> | Opinions are like a*******, so don't stare.
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From: al.sorhaindo@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Washington Redskins News
Date: 22 Aug 92 15:16:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Brentwood BBS Harrison, NY  914-835-7898
Reply-To: al.sorhaindo@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo) 

SW>Desmond Howard: wants a four-year deal worth around $1.75 million per season.
SW>   Redskins' offer is $1.45 million per season.

SW>Jim Lachey:     wants a one- or two-year deal worth $2 million per season.
SW>   Redskins' offer is three- or four-year deal worth
SW>   $1.2 million per season.

SW>Darrell Green:  wants $2 million per season.
SW>   Redskins' offer is $1.2 million per season.


Should the Redskins be offering more to a rookie who will be their fourth
wide receiver than to two players that will be all-pro?

As disconcerting as Lachey's holdout must be to the Redskins, they should
remember if were not for his holding out from the Chargers in 1988, they
never would have obtained him. (The Chargers did not want to meet Lachey's
demands, so they sent him to the Raiders for Napoleon McCullum. The Raiders
then traded Lachey to Washington for Jay Schroeder.

                                                 Al

                                         Al
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From: bob@ashanti.ibm.com (Robert Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Worst Rules in NFL
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:47:57 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin
Originator: bob@cosmic.austin.ibm.com


My favorite no-brainer rule is the one that says if the ball is 
fumbled on 4th down that the guy who fumbled is the only one
who can recover the d*mn thing.  Why can't they just let things
happen.  If you can pull off what Dave Casper and the raiders did
to win a game, all power to you.  
-- 
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From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Packer/Colt trade
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:04:28 GMT
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science


It's been reported that Green bay acquired 2nd year DB Dave McCloughan
form the Indy Colts for a conditional draft pick.  McCloughan was the
Colts' 3rd round pick last year, and returned 2 kickoffs for 35 yards.
Anyone know anything about him?
-- 
"Take out the work 'Quayle' and insert the word 'Bush' wherever it
appears, and that's the crap I took for eight years.  Wimp.
Sycophant.  Lap dog.  Poop.  Lightweight.  Boob.  Squirrel.  Asshole.
George Bush."        -- George Herbert Walker Bush.
From: jawebb@hydra.unm.edu (James Webb)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Scoring 1991
Date: 21 Aug 92 04:49:24 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


		 1991 :SCORING

	Points
NFC:	149	Chip Lohmiller, Washington
AFC:	121	Pete Stoyanovich, Miami

	Touchdowns
NFC:	17	Barry Sanders, Detroit
AFC:	12	Mark Clayton, Miami
		Thurman Thomas, Buffalo

	Extra Points
NFC:	56	Chip Lohmiller, Washington
AFC:	56	Scott Norwood, Buffalo

	Field Goals
NFC:	31	Chip Lohmiller, Washington
AFC:	31	Pete Stoyanovich, Miami

	Field Goal Attempts
NFC:	43	Chip Lohmiller, Washington
AFC:	37	Pat Leahy, Jets
		Pete Stoyanovich, Miami

	Longest Field Goal
NFC:	60	Morton Anderson, New Orleans
AFC:	55	Matt Stover, Cleveland

	Most Points, Game
NFC:	24	Don Bebbe, Buffalo
AfC:	24	Barry Sanders, Detriot
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From: slh@bbt.com (Scott Horn)
Subject: Re: Ken Swilling info wanted
Keywords: Bucs, Swilling, cut?
Reply-To: slh@springfield.UUCP (Scott Horn)
Organization: BroadBand Technologies, Inc.,  Research Triangle Park, NC
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 12:46:07 GMT

I'm not surprised that Ken Swilling is doing little in the Buc's camp.  
As a Georgia Tech alum I've watched him dog it through both his junior
and senior seasons.  Swilling got all the media hype (i.e. the Sports
Illustrated article a year ago) and then proceeded to disappear for
those two seasons.  Back in his sophomore year he was mentioned as
a future #1 draft pick, but as the SI article pointed out Ken's 
desire was not always evident, this seems to have become the case 
permanently.

Personally, I was pleased to see him leave Tech, the team always
seemed to count on him and he never came through those last two
years( yes, I know he was injured, but he was the invisible man
even when he wasn't).  Plus I was always annoyed that all the media
hype around Swilling overshadowed the superior play of guys like
Marco Coleman and Willie Clay, both of whom played their hearts
out every game.

I won't be surprised if the Bucs cut Swilling either.

Scott

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From: kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Indy News????
Date: 19 Aug 92 15:19:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: oasys.23820
Reply-To: kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Kevin Day)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


  Can someone out there update us on the happenings with the Colts?
We don't get very much news about them out here in their real hometown.
Thanks.

K. Scott Day   (kday@oasys.dt.navy.mil)
Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center
Code 1252
Bethesda, Maryland 20084-5000

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From: davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood)
Subject: Re: Bronco Tidbits
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:07:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.164002.12065@vexcel.com> tom@vexcel.com (Tom Baltzer) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.150242.11123@colorado.edu> davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood) writes:
>>3. Shawn Moore looked great again in his very short stint.  He was 3-4 with
>>a TD pass to B. Johnson (who also looked good).  Moore left the game with
>>an injured (non-throwing) shoulder.  It is unclear how bad that injury is.
>
>I wondered what happened there, sure seemed like he was taken out quickly.
>Interesting that Pelleur didn't play a down!  Looks like we'll lose the loser!
>

I sure hope so!

>>
>>6. Elway has hit 80% of his passes in 2 games.  What a stud.
>
>Yes, he's looking really good.  However, I'm really concerned that once 
>again when he gets the team into the red zone, no TDs!  What the hell's
>going on here?  I recall that that happened quite a bit last year, 
>they would drive down the field and then settle for a FG or worse a
>turnover, (at least two of those yesterday, yikes!).
>

This has been the most frustrating thing for me watching the Broncos ever since
the Super Bowl loss to the Giants when we should have had a considerable
lead going into halftime.  I honestly feel better when we are between the
40 and the 20 than I do once we are inside the 20.  I feel much more confident
that we will get in the end zone.

>
>Tom Baltzer 
>GOOOOOO   BRONCOS!!!


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Subject: Re: holdouts
From: mzener@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:39:31 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:

> Do teams routinely negotiate with players before the draft?  "OK, so if we
> pick you, and offer $1 million, we won't have any holdout problems, right?"

   I suspect that they do, but that the GMs are willing to put up with a brief
holdout in order to get a high pick.
   I know that The Skins did a little negotiating with Howard's agent before
the draft -- Casserly said that they picked Howard on the precondition that he
wouldn't pull a Rocket Ishmail and go off to Canada.  Of course, now Howard's
agent is threatening just that . . . he'd better not do it -- would any owner
do business with the man after he broke his word about something like that?

Max
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