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From: terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson)
Subject: Re: Testing 4800bps modems
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 08:40:05 GMT

cheese@runx.oz.au (Mark Cheeseman) writes:

>>yep .. I recommend getting something to dedicate to packet anyway .. the
>>290 is probably not a good choice for dedicated 4800bps work .. its low
>>powered, and the switching times reduce the gain made by the increased
>>speed significantly ..
>>
>That's planned anyway, but I was hoping to use the '290 to fiddle with it
>until I get another rig. In the light of the difficulties, I might just wait
>till I get the other rig.

I hate to say this, but you're starting to sound like Dave .. don't wait
get another rig now! :-)

Terry

(weren't you going to get another rig at Gosford ??????)

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From: cheese@runx.oz.au (Mark Cheeseman)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.packet
Subject: Re: Testing 4800bps modems
Date: 5 Nov 92 01:21:01 GMT
Organization: Your Computer Magazine, Sydney, Australia

In article <terryd.720862182@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson) writes:
>
>yep .. I recommend getting something to dedicate to packet anyway .. the
>290 is probably not a good choice for dedicated 4800bps work .. its low
>powered, and the switching times reduce the gain made by the increased
>speed significantly ..
>
That's planned anyway, but I was hoping to use the '290 to fiddle with it
until I get another rig. In the light of the difficulties, I might just wait
till I get the other rig.

-Mark


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From: makinc@hhcs.gov.au (Carl Makin)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.packet
Subject: NSW Packet Forum.  Your views please.
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:06:28 +1100
Organization: Aust. Dept. Health, Housing and Community Services

I've been reading some of the junk that's been floating around
the packet network and as far as I can see everyone seems to have
a different opinion of what's going to happen at this Packet
Forum in Sydney on the 22nd.

Well I'll be there (Wearing my hats of BBS sysop, Wormhole
operator and CAPRG Chairman) so I'm interested in what people
using this newsgroup think. 

Ok people.  Post here your views, ideas, comments and criticisms
of the current NSW network.  If anyone has a decent collection of
the messages that floated around the packet network (like the
marathon effort by Rod, VK2DOT) it would be nice to have them
posted here as well.

We've only got a week and a half before the thing is on.

Carl.
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Newsgroups: aus.radio.packet
From: steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche)
Subject: Re: Testing 4800bps modems
Reply-To: steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche)
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:51:18 GMT

In article <terryd.721039205@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU> terryd@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Terry Dawson) writes:
>cheese@runx.oz.au (Mark Cheeseman) writes:
>
>>>yep .. I recommend getting something to dedicate to packet anyway .. the
>>>290 is probably not a good choice for dedicated 4800bps work .. its low
>>>powered, and the switching times reduce the gain made by the increased
>>>speed significantly ..
>>>
>>That's planned anyway, but I was hoping to use the '290 to fiddle with it
>>until I get another rig. In the light of the difficulties, I might just wait
>>till I get the other rig.
>
>I hate to say this, but you're starting to sound like Dave .. don't wait
>get another rig now! :-)
>
>Terry

Took the words right out of my mouth, Terry !

steve



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Newsgroups: aus.radio.packet
From: steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche)
Subject: Re: Testing 4800bps modems
Reply-To: steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche)
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 06:03:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.064335.6014@runx.oz.au> cheese@runx.oz.au (Mark Cheeseman) writes:
>In article <1992Nov2.005908.2344@fawlty.towers.oz.au> steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche) writes:
>>It uses those damned 3357 I.C.'s
>
>I think somebody (probably you) mentioned this before. What is it about the
>3357 that makes it so un-4800-friendly?
>
Its a while ago, like about 1986 or 87 since we went thru the motions
of getting those HAPN modems running, it might not necessarily be the
3357, but the way it was implemented in the 290 & Exploder, it meant
getting some sharp cutters and cutting out a couple caps and trying
to solder a lead in a particular place and extract that thru the
case eg. mounting a socket for external disconnection. I think this
also caused the audio heard thru the speaker to become very harsh,
since it was essentially removal of the de-emphasis (or part of).
I dont have a 290, but Dave 2YME and Peter 2KHZ do/or did have 290's
so I remember them struggling with their 290's trying to get them
going.

Mark, did you actually try and decode 4800bps packets on 144.800 ?
and does it transmit packets ?
You mentioned previously about concern for DCD being correct, if
it is only 4800 bps you are interested in, then you shouldnt have to
worry, as the 4800 modem generates DCD from the receive cctry, the
audio input should be unsquelched audio taken from a point as close
the discriminator as possible, or at a point between the discriminator
and the de-emphasis cct.

The transmit audio o/p should be as close to the modulator as possible,
or somewhere between the pre-emphasis cct and the modulator.

de steve

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From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio
Subject: Daily IPS Report - 11 Nov 92
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:49:30 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES AUSTRALIA
Daily Solar And Geophysical Report
Issued at 2330 UT 10 November 1992
Summary for 10 November and Forecast up to 13 November
No IPS warning is current.
-----------------------------------------------------------

1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
Activity: Low

Flares: None

Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 136/89 

1B. SOLAR FORECAST
             11 November        12 November        13 November
Activity     Low                Low                Low
Fadeouts     None expected      None expected      None expected

Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 140/93 

1C. SOLAR COMMENT
None.
-----------------------------------------------------------

2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : quiet to unsettled, with active
levels 00-03UT.

Estimated Indices : A   K
    Learmonth       12  4232 2323
    Fredericksburg  10
    Planetary       10

Observed Indices for 9 November : A
		  Fredericksburg  25
                  Planetary       42

2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
Geomagnetic field at Learmonth : quiet to unsettled with an isolated
active period late in the day.
Ap :  14

2C. MAGNETIC COMMENT
Some minor storming at high latitudes from 15-18UT.

3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
Propagation conditions :         
Low Lats: Normal.
Mid Lats: Normal.
High Lats: Fair.
PCA Event : None.
3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
Propagation conditions are expected to improve at high latitudes.
3C. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION COMMENT
None.

-----------------------------------------------------------

4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
MUFs at Sydney were 15 percent depressed 00-04UT and 16-22UT; near
predicted at other times. Sporadic E obscured the F layer at 05UT.

Observed Sydney Regional Ionospheric Index :  53

4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
          11 November        12 November        13 November
MUFs      near normal       depressed about 20% depressed about 20%
T index    85                 50                 50

Predicted Monthly Ionospheric Index for November is 70.

4C. AUSTRALIAN REGION COMMENT
None.

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Newsgroups: aus.radio
From: steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche)
Subject: Re: Radar
Reply-To: steve@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Steve Blanche)
Organization: Tower Technology, Sydney
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:29:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.210354.3248@runx.oz.au> richardm@runx.oz.au (Richard Murnane) writes:
>
>Dumb question time! Has anyone ever tried building a TRF receiver for the
>K or X bands (or whichever they band the detectors use), to avoid problems with
>the local oscillator radiating?
>
>Not that I'd even dream of using one of course :-)
>
It does raise the question, why use a radar detector ? all it does
is tell you, that you have been seen, its a fair bet that if your
detector has detected a radar unit, that the radar unit has already
seen you and computed your speed, so your only choice is to prepare
to stop, or do a hand brake U turn and try and hope they didnt see,
which is unlikely with a speed camera.
The other problem, is they false trigger all the time, especially
in industrial areas from lots of microwave alarm systems, so you
either become paranoid for every time it false triggers, or you
become oblivious to the detector, until its too late.
I have always worked in a job that required alot of driving and
have never been done by a radar unit (touch wood) and its from
having an understanding of how the radar propgates and therefore
it becomes easy to pick where they can and cannot operate a radar,
just ask a cop, they have guidelines on where to run it.

de steve



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From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amsat
Subject: AMSAT OPERATIONS NET SCHEDS
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:11:26 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 312.03 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD NOVEMBER 7, 1992    BID: $ANS-312.03
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

AMSAT-NA Operations Net Schedule

AMSAT Operations Nets are planned for the following times.  Mode B Nets
are conducted on AO-13 on a downlink frequency of 145.950 MHz and the Mode
J/L Nets on a downlink of 435.970 MHz.

 Date           UTC    Mode     Phs     NCS     Alt

14-Nov-92       1645   J       145      WJ9F    VE2LVC
28-Nov-92       1550   B       217      VE2LVC  W9ODI
 6-Dec-92       1400   B       118      N7NQM   W5IU

Any stations with information on current events would be most welcome.  In
the unlikely event that either the Net Control Station (NCS) or the
alternate do not call on frequency, any participant is invited to act as
the NCS.

Slow Scan Television on AO-13

SSTV sessions will be held on Saturdays and Sundays (UTC).  Mode J on a
downlink of 435.980 MHz, and Mode B immediately after Mode J on 145.960
MHz.  OPS NETS will take priority so look for SSTV activity immediately
after they conclude.

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From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amsat
Subject: EME OPPORTUNITY FOR OSCAR USERS
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:11:24 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

HR AMSAT NEWS SERVICE BULLETIN 312.02 FROM AMSAT HQ
SILVER SPRING, MD NOVEMBER 7, 1992    BID:$ANS-312.02
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

AO-13 Stations Can Make EME Contacts With VE3ONT Nov 14-15 On 432 MHz

November 14-15, 1992 is the weekend for this year's ARRL International
Earth-Moon-Earth (EME) Competition.  What is particularly exciting about
this year's contest is that through the efforts of the Toronto VHF Society,
many AO-13 equipped stations will have an opportunity to make their first
EME contact.  Using the enormous gain (about 40 dBc) being generated from
the 150 ft diameter dish at the Algonquin Space Institute near Ottawa,
Canada their signal (according to calculations made by G3RUH) should be at
least 10 dB above the noise floor on 432 MHz!  Consequently the operators
of VE3ONT extend an open invitation to all AO-13 users to let VE3ONT be
your first EME contact!

VE3ONT will be active for those two days, November 14-15th, whenever the
Moon is within view of their QTH.  Using various prediction programs it has
been determined that VE3ONT will have "acquisition of signal" starting
around 00:40 UTC on November 14th and the window will close around 16:00
UTC that same day.  Then on November 15th, the window will open again at
01:50 UTC and doesn't close until 16:45 UTC.  So look for the the "big"
signal from VE3ONT working the "original" OSCAR-0 on a downlink frequency
of 432.050 MHz + or - 10 KHz.  Good luck in the contest!

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From: dave@eram.esi.COM.AU (Dave Horsfall)
Newsgroups: aus.radio.amsat
Subject: Orbital Elements  312.OSCAR
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:11:29 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Pacific ESI, Sydney, AUSTRALIA

HR AMSAT ORBITAL ELEMENTS FOR OSCAR SATELLITES
FROM N3FKV  HEWITT, TX   November 7, 1992  BID:$ORBS-312.O
TO ALL RADIO AMATEURS BT

Satellite: AO-10
Catalog number: 14129
Epoch time:      92304.41477978
Element set:     936
Inclination:       26.9201 deg
RA of node:        56.6995 deg
Eccentricity:    0.6019800
Arg of perigee:    29.0992 deg
Mean anomaly:     353.8927 deg
Mean motion:    2.05877114 rev/day
Decay rate:       -8.0e-08 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            7053
Checksum:              324

Satellite: UO-11
Catalog number: 14781
Epoch time:      92298.60061378
Element set:     380
Inclination:       97.8388 deg
RA of node:       329.1583 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0013179
Arg of perigee:    32.5963 deg
Mean anomaly:     327.6053 deg
Mean motion:   14.68700323 rev/day
Decay rate:       5.42e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           46213
Checksum:              315

Satellite: RS-10/11
Catalog number: 18129
Epoch time:      92310.39273749
Element set:     457
Inclination:       82.9287 deg
RA of node:        44.0241 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0010741
Arg of perigee:   214.1956 deg
Mean anomaly:     145.8490 deg
Mean motion:   13.72298930 rev/day
Decay rate:       1.75e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           26915
Checksum:              312

Satellite: AO-13
Catalog number: 19216
Epoch time:      92306.08667453
Element set:     534
Inclination:       57.3066 deg
RA of node:       352.4723 deg
Eccentricity:    0.7287265
Arg of perigee:   300.1088 deg
Mean anomaly:       7.6197 deg
Mean motion:    2.09721193 rev/day
Decay rate:      -1.24e-06 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            3357
Checksum:              304

Satellite: FO-20
Catalog number: 20480
Epoch time:      92304.24538366
Element set:     429
Inclination:       99.0583 deg
RA of node:       197.6213 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0539902
Arg of perigee:   247.3254 deg
Mean anomaly:     106.9913 deg
Mean motion:   12.83214268 rev/day
Decay rate:       -8.0e-08 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:           12782
Checksum:              311

Satellite: AO-21
Catalog number: 21087
Epoch time:      92310.42457105
Element set:     608
Inclination:       82.9462 deg
RA of node:       218.3979 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0034215
Arg of perigee:   286.6825 deg
Mean anomaly:      73.0605 deg
Mean motion:   13.74497721 rev/day
Decay rate:        4.8e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            8870
Checksum:              312

Satellite: RS-12/13
Catalog number: 21089
Epoch time:      92303.42582448
Element set:     381
Inclination:       82.9234 deg
RA of node:        93.2486 deg
Eccentricity:    0.0030043
Arg of perigee:   328.4773 deg
Mean anomaly:      31.4582 deg
Mean motion:   13.74003851 rev/day
Decay rate:        5.3e-07 rev/day^2
Epoch rev:            8683
Checksum:              296

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Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: mmr@asgserver.canberra.edu.au (Micheal Rainford-Watson)
Subject: Unix books
Organization: University of Canberra
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 07:41:39 GMT

Can anyone suggest some good Unix books above an introductry level
for the use with SUN-OS and PTX. Examples commands and useful scripts
would be ideal.
Thanks


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From: pjw@pjwhome.canb.auug.org.au (Peter Wishart)
Newsgroups: canb.general,aus.auug
Subject: Reminder: AUUG Canberra AGM Tues 10/11
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 03:57:21 GMT
Organization: EASAMS Australia
Reply-To: pjw@canb.auug.org.au

		  Canberra Chapter of AUUG Inc.

		Australia's UNIX and Open Systems
			 Users Group.


	Annual General Meeting
	======================

  8:00pm Tuesday 10th November 1992
  Australian Defence Forces Academy

The Canberra Chapter of AUUG Inc. will have its Annual General Meeting
on Tuesday the 10th of October 1992.  We are looking for more
enthusiastic volunteers to join our committee.  *Please Note* that
only members of AUUG Inc are eligable to stand for nomination and to
vote (bringing your AUUG membership card on the night would be
helpful).  However we encourage all others to turn up and take an
active role in the group.

Nominations are called for President, Secretary, Treasurer, and 
general committee positions.  The returning officer for the nominations
is John Barlow.  You can nominate at any time by written submission,
signed by the nominated candidate, and all nominees are encouraged to
write a few words about themselves for publication on the day of the
ballot (the AGM).  Nominations will be accepted on the night.  The
ballot will be a simple show-of-hands.

The agenda for the night involves pushing through all the usual AGM
waffle and then on to refreshments and socialising afterwards.  A
number of Canberra's ``experts'' will be available to answer UNIX
questions.  There will be mystery prizes on the night ...

  Apologies
  Presidents report
  Secretaries report
  Treasurers report
  Call for nominations for President, vote by show of hands
  Call for nominations for Secretary, vote by show of hands
  Call for nominations for Treasurer, vote by show of hands
  Call for nominations for General Committee 1, vote by show of hands
  Call for nominations for General Committee 2, vote by show of hands
  Call for nominations for General Committee 3, vote by show of hands
  Reports on up-and-coming events
  Other business
  Close meeting, adjourn to refreshments.

If you have any enquiries on the positions or nomination please contact
John Barlow ph:  2492930 (BH), 2821925 (AH), 2490747 (fax).

	What:	general meeting ``Annual General Meeting''
	When:	8 pm Tuesday 10th November
	Where:	Computer Science, room 152
		ADFA Campus
	Phone:	2492930

*Note* it is hard to email a map of the ADFA campus :-)  Please contact
me and I will fax a map to you.  John Barlow <John.Barlow@anu.edu.au>
Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: eaf@softway.sw.oz.au (Liz Fraumann)
Subject: AUUG '92 Conference proceedings
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 00:04:07 GMT

For those interested, who were unable to attend AUUG '92 or would like
additional copies of the proceedings, they may be purchased for $50.00
(shipping and handling included) by calling the AUUG secretariat on:

02 332-4622

Titles  include:

Functional Microprocessing - Dr. Bruce Nelson of Auspex
Porting C++ to An Embedded Environment - Andrew McRae of Megadata
The Design of A Distributed Shell - Christopher Vance of Univ. College, Univ of NSW
The New Security Paradigm - Chris Schoettle of USL
A Tighter Definition of UNIX Semaphores - Neil Dunstan of Univ. of New England
Technology Data Centre Management - Steve Landers of Functional Software
Tying UNIX Systems and Macintosh Together - Jaap Akkerhuis of Bell Labs
AIX Logical Volume Manager - Indulis Bernstein of IBM
Hardware Profiling of a UNIX Kernel - Andrew McRae of Megadata
Ibuild: An Interface Builder for X-Windows - Paul Mullenmeister 
fmake -- A Tool in Support of a Policy for Management of Things - Greg Rose of 
ACCI
Log Structured File Systems -  Keith Bostic of Univ. of California, Berkeley

....and many more


There is a limited supply so you will want to call right away.

Liz Fraumann
AUUG - Business Manager
Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: lucyc@suite.sw.oz.au (Lucy Chubb)
Subject: AUUG Summer Conference '93 (NSW) --- Call for Papers
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:03:06 GMT


	     AUUG Summer '93 (New South Wales)

        Preliminary Announcement and Call For Papers

The NSW 1993 summer conference of the Australian Open Systems
User Group will be held on Friday 19th of February at Sydney
University.

The purpose of the summer conference is to supplement the AUUG
winter conference by providing an informal, technically oriented
forum for work of interest to programmers, systems administrators
and experienced users.

Dates:
	Abstracts due:		Friday 11th December 1992
	Final Papers due:	Friday 29nd January 1992
	Conference date:	Friday 19th February 1993

Papers:

Technically oriented papers in all areas of Unix research,
development and application are invited for inclusion in the
programme. Speakers will receive free conference registration
and lunch. Submitted papers will also be considered for
presentation interstate and at the winter conference.

Abstracts, final papers, and any queries should be addressed to:

Lucy Chubb.
Softway Pty Ltd,		Phone: +61 2 698 2322;
P.O. Box 305,			Fax: +61 2 699 9174;
Strawberry Hills,		Email: lucyc@softway.sw.oz.au
NSW 2012,
AUSTRALIA
Newsgroups: aus.auug
From: john@labtam.labtam.oz.au (John Carey)
Subject: Next Sesspoole Meeting
Organization: Labtam Australia Pty. Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 21:56:00 GMT

Date:		Wednesday 11th of November 1992
Time:		6.30pm
Location:	Oakleigh Hotel
Newsgroups: aus.auug