HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wrs@wslack.UUCP (Bill Slack)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re:  Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:00:04 GMT
Organization: W. R. Slack

>I have heard of people mounting the detector on their shoulder.
>That way the detector is high and can be heard easily.  The only
>problem is running the cord, which can get tangled.  Good radar
>detectors run off the bike's battery and are not cordless.  A
>
>I have yet to find a detector that runs well on a battery.  And
>to me it seems easier to use the bikes own power.
>
>            - Bob
>            - dlm1247@ritvax

I used a Passport since they first came out. I got a Solo when they were
first available. I have a lot of cage and bike experience with both. In my
opinion they performed identically. The Solo is cordless. It also has the
advantage of being "mounted" in your clothing so that there is nothing to
connect/disconnect to/from the bike.  So our opinions differ. But as a DoD
member I am obligated to point out that my opinion is inherently superior to
everyone else's.

Heh, heh.

Bill
__
wrs@gozer.mv.com (Bill Slack) DoD 0430
But her tears were shed in vain and her every word was lost
In the rumble of his engine and the smoke from his exhaust! Oo..o&o
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wind Triangles?  What are they?
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:42:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <BD.92Sep26084403@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:

>What the heck is a wind triangle?  I think that was the phrase
>used (Aerostitch makes one, whatever it is).

brice (and bill):

the aerostitch wind triangle is a collapsible sail, enabling the riders of
motorcycles to dramaticaly increase their fuel economy while majestically
sailing the asphalt oceans.  as blaine posted, it's a triangle of dimensions
16'x16'x24'; the mast is of the collapsible tent variety.  this item is most
popular with our one-eyed customers (avast, ye know who ye are), generally
seen using the triangle while having their parrot ride pillion.  riders of
xr250s find them useful for dr(a)ft-starting a stalled bike; riders of xv535s
report them an efficient means of avoiding walking when more than 40 miles
of roadway separates gasoline/ethanol stops (bill).

aerostitch also markets the mini-wind triangle, a 16"x16"x24" device which goes
'round the neck of the wearer.  its function is to, err, break wind, swaddling
the chosen one's neck whilst protecting it from rain, snow, and harsh gales.
i'm not sure if the triangle has the goretex laminate (gave my catalog away ia fit of motorcycle-related contribution), but it's alleged to be wind- and
waterproof -- and a babe (tm) magnet to boot.  i think they're also on sale
for something like $12 or so (again, i'll know in a week when my suit arrives).
since it seems i won't be making my own, if anyone's interested in them, i'd be
happy to combine orders to save some shipping.

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|       Cliff Weston                     '92 Seca II (Tem)                 |
|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
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|  you act like a dick.  jokes are fine, but you have to make some sort    |
|    of motorcycle-related contribution in order to get away with it.      |
|                     -- (DoD# withheld), referring to me                  |
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From: krafft@fnala.fnal.gov (N07732_KRAFFT, KEITH G.)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: DoD weenies
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:29:27 GMT
Reply-To: krafft@fnala.fnal.gov
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory

In article <1992SEP27.162452.12686@adobe.com>, cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis
Jackson) writes:
>
>of you oldsters may remember me as The MAD Programmer.
>                                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>I just don't need the little secret society crap.

Curtis,

As of today, being a newly annointed DoD member, it just goes to show:

Us hardware Studs will always be superior to you software geeks.

Keith Krafft Krafft@fnal.fnal.gov | "I love her, I need her, I seed her.
DoD# 720                '90 XT600 | Yeah she turns me on. Alright, hold 
                                  | tight I'm a highway star.
                                  | DEEP PURPLE (Machine Head)
From: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com (R. Craig Dodson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Faster 1100
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:45:26 GMT
Reply-To: cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com
Distribution: usa

> 	3)	They're pretty expensive to operate. Figure a hot section
> 		every 1500 hours for about $25,000, and an overhaul at
> 		3,000 hours for about $150,000. That's $58/hr to maintain
> 		the engine, plus about $63/hr for fuel == $121/hr to
> 		operate, pretty much independent of throttle setting (i.e.
> 		idle costs the same as WFO). Purchase price? I've never
> 		bought one, but I'd guess you could get a high time one
> 		nearing overhaul for a hundred grand.

A gas turbine in a bike -- ouch !

Ever heard of Art Arfonz ? He dropped one of these babies in a tractor
chassis and re-wrote the books on tractor-pulling in the unlimited class.
I saw him a couple of times in the late 70's at various state fairs in the
midwest. The power that thing had was unreal !  If you ever saw a 12,000lb
tractor just ignite two huge 6'x3' tractor tires while pulling 20+ tons
down a 300ft dirt track, you would think really seriously about having that
much power in between your legs.

In the automotive arena, there was acompany in Texas that was/is putting
a GE turbine from a helicopter into a Corvette. Puwer was something in the
order of 750bhp and the top speed was said to be in excess of 200 mph.
They were even in the Guiness book for a while as the fastest street car.

But on  bike ??

That's nuts

Craig Dodson (Stratus Computer)
cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com
DOD # 810
1992 FJ1200A
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From: matth@progress.COM (Matthew J. Harper)
Subject: Re: helmet mounted air horns
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:30:09 GMT

Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:

>I nominate Arthur Relser for the Rube Goldberg post
>of the year and predict the beginning of the years
>longest thread. Priceless.  Shit, I can't stop laughing.

>FIAMS, Arthur!  Mounted on eyeglasses, one above each
>ear.

  Although their directional capability would be limited when braking or 
turning, sleeve mounted FIAMS might work well too.  

  Would it not be a giggle to be able to point the horn at the cager than just
rattle him with less than full power?

  "8 drivers were taken off the freeway today with extensive bleeding from the
ear canal.  At this time it is unknown what caused the incidents.  Each driver
in question has been reduced to a babbling mass of protoplasm repeating over
and over 'Holy Shit! Holy Shit!' and other such expletives related to what must
have been extreme pain...  Film, at 11."

-Matth
--
          Matthew J. Harper ! Progress Software Corp. ! {disclaimer.i}         
   God created heaven and earth to grow barley and hops. Now he homebrews !-)  
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 14:10:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Fatal horse accident
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles


Re: More horseshit

This is probably a good time to inject some thoughtful, though off the
point comments.

I have some friends who have horses. They think motorcycles are
dangerous and wouldn't go near the things. 

They get real quiet when I reply that: 

 (a) There is only one brain that will throw you off a bike.
     Corollary: A motorcycle is incapable of malice
 (b) The seat height on a horse is tropospheric compared to a bike. 
 (c) A cowboy hat ain't a helmet
 (d) You don't have to feed a motorcycle even when not riding it
 (e) Motorcycles don't attract flies
 (f) Motorcycles won't wander away thru open gates

Etiquette- when passing horses, if it's possible, pull waaaay over, make the
           engine as quiet as possible and ride slowly if you must ride.
           Horse riders will be appreciative that you have a clue.

           This may also have other, more nefarious, benefits as young
           girls and women are more likely to be riding the horse and
           you may be able to get a date!

 Now, back to your regularly sheduled horseshit.

Ron
From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW K100rs & Boxer sound bite
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:46:28 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

joe@zx11.cactus.org writes:
>tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) writes:
>]country. A 49 state version and a California version. Prime difference
>]being the cams. If that sounds like it's too confusing to you, and your
>]name is BMW, you're right. So, from '86 on, all K's came with
>]Californicated motors. Which, for the K100, meant a drop from 90 to 82 HP:-{
>]I don't think that the K75 was available in '85.
>
>82hp from '86 on? sorry, my K100 is rated at 100hp. 95 w/the cat...

Are you real sure? I thought that the 4-V Motronic simply brought it back
up to 90. The 1100 motor is good for 100. W/ catalyst. But I could be
wrong (gotta happen sometime.) (this hour.)

>guess it's time for all those pre '92 owners to trade up :-)

Nah. I paid <1/2 what your bike cost, and with the exception of this
tendency to wear out tires on me, I have no complaints (yes, I'm off to
the dealer for aNOTHER new set of Metzelers tomorrow).
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: fuel/engine efficiency
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 05:16:57 GMT

root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:

I've no idea what this is doing here, but what the heck...

>A major manufacturer of urban city transit busses is Flexible (sp?) which is
>made in Ohio.  Their specialty is kneeling busses that can lower the front
>end for easier entry by handicapped persons.

Is there a model intended for export to Britian that can curtsey?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
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From: mfisch@pdx064.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Matthew Fisch)
Subject: Re: stupid people
Reply-To: mfisch@ichips.intel.com
Organization: Workgroup Computing Division, PDX, Intel	
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:07:10 GMT

In article <23753@sybase.sybase.com>, thorick@sybase.com (Thorick Chow) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> hmmm... very interesting !
|> 
|> to present another datapoint..  there's a guy here with a Saleen 5.0
|> Mustang that he races regularly in SCCA auto-cross (the guy who
|> sold me my FJ1100 BTW)...  his plates say "1G TURNS" and he means it...
|> 
|> took me for a 'ride' one lunchtime..  I nearly lost the lunch..
|> I don't think ANY bike could have kept up with the violent
|> cornering that I was subjected to :-)
|> 
|> -t.c.
|> 
|> 

  So I guess you've taken a few laps on the back with Kevin Schwantz
and are qualified to make that sort of comparison, right ??? :-+

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|				SUZ GSXR-1186				     |
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|  "Just a little too much right hand and the Australian Grand Prix is over  |
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From: car377@druhi.ATT.COM (RogersC)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: car-to-bike jump start
Summary: dead batteries
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:24:04 GMT

In article <viking.717658195@vincent2.iastate.edu>, viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson) writes:
> 
> 	Alternative query: I had a two year old battery, which I took out
> of the bike and set in the basement where it would not incite the Wrath
> of the SO (tm).  When I dropped it in the bike this summer, no juice.  It
> wouldn't take a charge, either.  Is there some reason behind the old
> legend of not setting a battery on a concrete floor?  Yes, it was full
> of electrolyte and fully charged to boot when I set it down.

Lead-acid batteries self-discharge with their terminals disconnected from
any external circuit.  The rate of discharge varies depending on battery
age, internal construction, temperature, humidity, spooge on the outside
of the battery, contaminants in the electrolyte (like tap water provides),
and the current level of charge.  Older batteries discharge faster.  
Putting a battery on a cold concrete floor is like attaching it to a 
large heat-sink.  Cold batteries may self-discharge faster, and if the 
ambient temperature drops low enough for long enough, the battery 
electrolyte may freeze.  Letting a battery remain unattended in a 
discharged state invites sulfation, the growth of that white stuff
between the plates that pretty much signals new battery time.  Hook up a 
500mA trickle charger on an appliance timer (Radio Shack, K-Mart, etc. 
have them) so that it runs ~an hour a day as long as the battery is stored.  
Check the electrolyte level every couple of weeks so you don't run the 
battery dry.  Keep the battery in a well-ventilated place, provide a 
thermal barrier between it and any large heat-sink, and route the overflow
tube into something that can catch and hold any electrolyte overflow safely.

When the outside temperature is sub-freezing, it often helps to warm
a battery up by bringing it inside a warm house.  ('Course, if you
sleep with your bike, the battery's already warm.)  When I lived in the
Chicago area, the early-morning winter starting drill was to turn on
the car high beams for 5-10 minutes before trying to start the engine.
This apparently warmed up the battery enough that it worked a *lot* 
better.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris)
Subject: Re: K75 counterbalancer? (Was: BMW K100rs)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:18:37 GMT

In article <5273@balrog.ctron.com> tavares@ctron.com writes:
>
>AND IT BUZZES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
I got in my cage this morning and just before I started it up, I says to 
myself, "self, what would these Buzz Bozos (tm) on the net think about a 
cage vibrating?". Well, my tried and true 3-series sure as shootin' makes a 
decided vibration until about 2 grand (remarkably similar to the buzz at 
low revs in my K-bike - I wunda why???). You feel it in the steering wheel 
and the stick shift. After 2K, it smoothes out and you can't detect any 
vibration other than road feedback. And I've *never* read any Cage and
Dozer report that says 3-series buzz or heard anyone complain about
the vibration! 

BTW, the wife and I took an R100R out for a test spin last summer and as
soon as my wife got off the bike she said, "gee, it vibrates a *lot* more 
than the K" - why would anyone buy one of those when they're so ugly and
they buzz!?" 8-)

-John

P.S. I *did* put a down payment on a '92 R100RS last weekend. I'm sure she'll
learn to love it even if it does vibrate.
============================================================================
                            John S. Morris  #0316
  Open Software Foundation - 11 Cambridge Centre - Cambridge, MA 02142 USA
    Voice: +1 (617) 621-8739 Fax: +1 (617) 621-0584 Email: jsm@osf.org
                           Ride: K100RS Cage: 320i
From: jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu (John Robert Nadzam)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:27:27 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Yup

I wear a full face too.


NADZ
DoD#528
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From: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: TECH: Con Rod Angularity
Originator: markk@sparcplug
Reply-To: markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:10:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.183521.8765@swlvx2.msd.ray.com>, csl@swl (Scott Lilliott) writes:

>To what extent does Con Rod angularity play in the balancing and/or
>vibration of an ICE?
>I remember reading (but don't recall where)
>that the minimum Con Rod length (eye-to-eye center) should be twice that of 
>the stroke for smoothness, which also means the angle of the ConRod.
>Can anyone define or describe this mechanically why ? 

Increasing the anglar motion of the con rod (shortening the rod) has
two vibratory effects.  Assume one cylinder engines.

1) On the power stroke the rod pushes the piston against the cylinder
wall and pushes in the opposite direction on the crankshaft.  The
resulting couple creates a rocking vibration.  

2) A shorter rod will increase the difference between the maximum
accelerations of the piston (and therefore the forces on piston and
crank) at TDC and BDC.  The resulting imbalance creates a vibration
along the axis of the bore that cannot be corrected by counter-
weighting the crank.  

--
)V(ark)<               markk@tcs.com                   DoD #400
1988 FZR400            1985 ZX900 Ninja             1977 RD400D
From: rxkgre@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Geof Evans)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: car-to-bike jump start
Date: 29 Sep 92 08:29:21 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:

>In article <1992Sep25.134037.457@sbctri.sbc.com> asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper) writes:
>>PS Since there will undoubtedly be differing opinions, please only reply
>>if (i) you actually tried this and it worked, or (ii) you actually tried
>>this and blew your face off.
>I tried it--with the car shut off. (using only the car battery) and
>it did work. I blew my face off doing something else.
>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Eric Rescorla, DoD#431 (Nighthawk S)              rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu
>Former chemist now CM400 mechanic                 ekr@eitech.com(preferred)

*>>> Oh come on...you gotta tell me what that sumptin' else was !
  -- Bigfoot.
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From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: calling mature riders
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 01:25:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.175039.12388@cs.ucla.edu> noemi@maui.cs.ucla.edu (Noemi Berry) writes:
>hi,
>
>can riders who started relatively late in life offer some
>words of encouragement to my uncle?

I started riding at 47 almost precisely because someone suggested that
I might be too old.  I went out and ended up with a really swell 
learners bike, and FJ, and never looked back.  You're only too old
if you think you are too old.

Welcome back, hotlips, good to see you back on the nets.  :-)

Ride Free,

Bill
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If you sit, just sit.
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From: klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Honda 500 GP 'Droner' motor question
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:10:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: ccu.1992Oct5.151037.22740
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

In <1992Oct3.013200.234@morrow.stanford.edu> karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish) writes:

>In article <marcl.718057659@os-d> marcl@os-d.isc-br.com (H. Marc Lewis) writes:
>>
>>I'm tired of waiting for Kevin Cameron (noted American moto-journalist) to
>>write an article explaining how the Honda 500cc 'Droner' motor works (or
>>Yamaha's or Suzuki's copies of the Honda 'droner').  Anyone here know the
>>exact details, and feel like sharing them?  

>You'd probably have a long wait, because he explained it a
>couple of months ago in his Cycle World column, and he probably
>won't choose topic again soon.

>>My guess is that it involves making the firing order group the power 
>>strokes as though it were a 2 cylinder, or even 1 cylinder bike.  The
>>theory being that during the (relatively) long interval between power
>>strokes, the rear wheel has time to regain traction.

>That's what Cameron said, too.  This doesn't increase traction,
>it does make it easier for the rider to sense the limits
>of the available traction.
>--

>    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
>    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu

Uh-Oh. V-Twin stuff.
  I thought this uneven power pulses stuff is what Yamaha had for years
and Honda decided to forgo in their search for max power. Did Doohan
ride the standard firing Honda this season or is this new firing order
why he did so well. 
                          Jorg
From: pooder@msus1.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:49:10 -0600
Organization: Minnesota State University System

In article <1992Sep30.210132.18951@adobe.com>, cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:

> 
> Well, I've yet to see a riding suit that would comfortably go over
> jeans, so I guess I disagree.

I don't get it.  What's the problem?  My Aerostich fits over jeans and my
Corbin boots and I have the velcro as tight as it will go.  If I opened
the velcro, I could wear a whole snowmobile suit underneath.  Maybe you
never tried one the right size?

Don

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