HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: c1dje@watson.ibm.com (David Edelsohn)
Subject: Re: distribution of local hierarchies
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 15:57:12 GMT
Reply-To: c1dje@tweetie (David Edelsohn)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1ah3ntINN14o@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, craig@ec (Craig Richmond - division) writes:
>I can't comment as I can't look, but these sort of things often happen with
>cross-posted articles.  As a good example, you cross-post an article to
>cs.misc and misc.misc and it pops up in computer science departments the
>world over.  This is due to the fact that the news delivery mechanism will
>distribute it worldwide due to the misc.misc group and the news reading
>software displays it in cs.misc because it is cross-posted.
>
	I should have made it clear in my original posting that I am not
referring to cross-posted articles.  The articles in question are posted to
a single newsgroup in a local hierarchy with an explicit local (or at most
regional) distribution.

					David
===============================================================================
David Edelsohn                                      T.J. Watson Research Center
c$dje@watson.ibm.com                                P.O. Box 218
+1 914 945 3011 (Tieline 862)                       Yorktown Heights, NY 10598
"If somebody ought to protect George Bush from his campaign staff, then 
someone ought to protect us from him" -- Tom Wicker (ABC: This Week)


Xref: sparky news.admin.misc:82 news.admin:7896
From: rsalz@rodan.UU.NET (Rich Salz)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc,news.admin
Subject: Re: no more ``nonconforming news Message-IDs of last week''
Date: 6 Oct 1992 11:31:09 -0400
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In <bj}=^0#9@twinsun.com> eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert) writes:
>a list of
>nonconforming news Message-IDs rejected by UUNET.  This exhaustive
>compendium obsoletes my little weekly posting on the same subject,
>so I'm discontinuing it.  Thanks, Rich!
Thank *you* Paul.  Just to make it public, INN uses a variant of Paul's
Message-ID validating code.  I got the idea of doing the UUNET posting
after seeing Paul's.  Paul helped a great deal with the format of the
report, and its diagnostics.
	/r$
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
From: c1dje@watson.ibm.com (David Edelsohn)
Subject: distribution of local hierarchies
Summary: should these propagate around the world or not
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 1992 20:19:37 GMT
Reply-To: c1dje@tweetie (David Edelsohn)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center
Followup-To: nes.admin.misc

	I am curious as to what the consensus is on local and regional
hierachies.  We seem to get local newsgroups from Rochester Polytechnic
(rpi), University of Waterloo (uw), University of Minnesota (umn), and
Rutgers (ru) to name a few.  We are not directly fed by any of these sites:
the articles propagate through ANS and SURA in some cases.  Some articles
specifically list limited distributions of which we are not a member.
	Have the backbone sites decided that local hierarchies really are
of global interest or have they received special requests to forward all of
these newsgroups or are articles just escaping and the backbones pass
everything along?  This is not really a problem, but sites with limited
disk space may find "junk" overloaded unless the requested hierarchies for
transfer explicitly are limited.
	I am not suggesting that sites immediately clamp down on local and
regional hierarchies, but I am curious if postings about course cs260 at
the University of Minnesota really are releveant to most sites.

					David
===============================================================================
David Edelsohn                                      T.J. Watson Research Center
c$dje@watson.ibm.com                                P.O. Box 218
+1 914 945 3011 (Tieline 862)                       Yorktown Heights, NY 10598
"If somebody ought to protect George Bush from his campaign staff, then 
someone ought to protect us from him" -- Tom Wicker (ABC: This Week)
From: kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Non-compliant articles, week ending 27 September 92
Date: 27 Sep 92 11:44:23 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences


         Invalid Headers, week ending 27 September 92

    The following is a list of articles which were dropped by the news 
    software here for a non-compliant header.  If a message ID from your 
    site is on this list then your news software may be out of compliance 
    with the RFCs on netnews articles and should be fixed.

Header contains non-header line:
	<18755.2abe617f@levels.unisa.edu.au>
		`To:	IN%"NEWSMGR@yvax.byu.edu"  "YVAX.BYU.EDU News Account"'
	<72715@apple.Apple.COM> `Followup-To:'
	<72716@apple.Apple.COM> `Followup-To:'
	<1992Sep21.141237.321@walter.bellcore.com>
		`Keywords:telecommunications, feature interaction, extensi...'
	<1992Sep21.141952.708@walter.bellcore.com>
		`Keywords:extensibility, interoperability, telecommunicati...'
	<1992Sep21.143520.1525@walter.bellcore.com>
		`Keywords:telecommunications systems, feature interactions...'
	<1992Sep23.211409.7344@walter.bellcore.com>
		`Keywords:media, media bias'
	<2333@ceylon.gte.com>
		`References:<9209230020.AA01289@helium> <19oh53INNr2g@agat...'
	<2729@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> `Sender:'
	<1992Sep22.204805.17535@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> `Sender:ravindra Pandey'
	<1992Sep21.010355.25246@eng.ufl.edu> `Subject:Need Info on DARKSIDE '
	<1992Sep25.182148.25168@eng.ufl.edu> `Subject:East coast swell '
	<1992Sep21.220539.10848@hellgate.utah.edu> `Hi!'
	<2266@fnnews.fnal.gov> `Organization:Fermi'
	<137184@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> `Keywords:trombone wanted'
	<MJ1078.92Sep25143059@sol.taurus.cse.kyutech.ac.jp> `In-reply-to:'

Unapproved article in moderated group:
	<1992Sep23.163247.23701@ennews.eas.asu.edu> `sci.astro.hubble'
	<1992Sep23.213336.8660@ennews.eas.asu.edu> `sci.astro.hubble'
	<1992Sep23.213428.8738@ennews.eas.asu.edu> `sci.astro.hubble'

Newsgroup list contains white space:
	<1686996F3.CCGREG@mizzou1.missouri.edu>
		`comp.sys.next.sysadmin, comp.unix.admin'

No @ in Message ID:
	<1992Sep2501:00:00> 
	<1992Sep2509:00:00> 
	<1992Sep2509:36:00> 
	<1992Sep2519:32:00> 

No Subject or empty Subject:
	<1992Sep25.191738.28389@eng.ufl.edu> 

No From: header:
	<1992Sep22.184209.23779@rtsg.mot.com> 
	<1992Sep23.002055.26920@Princeton.EDU> 
	<1992Sep23.002214.27087@Princeton.EDU> 
	<1992Sep23.211657.29952@Princeton.EDU> 

No Date or unparsable Date:
	<1992Sep23.194345.7360@ALEX.ims.bellcore.com>
		`Wed, 23 Sep 1992 15:37-0400'
	<telecom12.724.5@eecs.nwu.edu> `Sun, 20 Sep 1992 15:38-0400'
	<.4@eng.ufl.edu> `<.4@eng.ufl.edu>'
	<cm.2@eng.ufl.edu> `<cm.2@eng.ufl.edu>'
	<cm.3@eng.ufl.edu> `<cm.3@eng.ufl.edu>'
	<cm.5@eng.ufl.edu> `<cm.5@eng.ufl.edu>'
	<jy.6@eng.ufl.edu> `<jy.6@eng.ufl.edu>'
	<mah.111@eng.ufl.edu> `<mah.111@eng.ufl.edu>'
From: rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Code-03 LCDR Michael E. Dobson)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: distribution of local hierarchies
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:35:18 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <1992Oct05.155712.152998@watson.ibm.com> c1dje@tweetie (David Edelsohn) writes:
>In article <1ah3ntINN14o@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, craig@ec (Craig Richmond - division) writes:
>>I can't comment as I can't look, but these sort of things often happen with
>>cross-posted articles.  As a good example, you cross-post an article to
>>cs.misc and misc.misc and it pops up in computer science departments the
>>world over.  This is due to the fact that the news delivery mechanism will
>>distribute it worldwide due to the misc.misc group and the news reading
>>software displays it in cs.misc because it is cross-posted.
>>
>	I should have made it clear in my original posting that I am not
>referring to cross-posted articles.  The articles in question are posted to
>a single newsgroup in a local hierarchy with an explicit local (or at most
>regional) distribution.
>
Your feed very likely has "/all" in the distributions portion of your entry
in it's sys file.  To stop the unwanted distributions, give them an
explicit list of which distributions you will accept and ask them to modify
your sys file entry.

--
LCDR Mike Dobson, Sys Admin for | Internet: rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil
nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil      | UUCP:   ...uunet!mimsy!nmrdc1!rdc30
AT&T 3B2/600G Sys V R 3.2.3     | BITNET:   dobson@usuhsb or nrd0mxd@vmnmdsc
WIN/TCP for 3B2  R3.2           |
From: eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: nonconforming news Message-IDs of last week
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:42:53 GMT
Organization: Twin Sun, Inc

Here is a list of Message-IDs discarded by twinsun's news software last week
because they do not conform to the Internet RFC 1036 and RFC 822 standards.
If a Message-ID from your site is on this list,
your news or mail software is probably broken and should get fixed.
The headings describe the probable reason for nonconformance.

(unknown cause)

	<.4.717147296@>
	<1711.102.uupcb@>
	<199209211819.AA11354@>
	<Auto2.26@>
	<tylczak.45.717280522@>

	<01010063.eccr49@egansys.>
	<01010063.ecduqb@egansys.>
	<01010063.ej19ff@egansys.>
	<01010063.ej2eot@egansys.>

	<FzU,r*-80@prolix.apana.org.au>

	<9209200914.FS.131@sosaria@impch.imp.com>

	<KENT@SWTEC1.92Sep23234237@pac05.intel.com>

MHS + mail-to-news gateway botch

	<102*.S=dieter.OU=st.OU=ife.O=ethz.PRMD=SWITCH.ADMD=ARCOM.C=CH.@MHS>

NewsWatcher 1.3d1 (obsolete)

	<Peri.E.Arnold.1-220992092404@arnold.decio.nd.edu.>

	<jw-250992083135@jwmac.mitre.org.>

sendmail configuration botch + mail-to-news gateway botch

	<9209280017.AA03320@>

	<9209232110.AA02533@.>

	<9209281439.AA29282@.n1.>
From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: newsgroup sizes
Date: 30 Sep 1992 22:54:23 +0100
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG

In article <1992Sep20.102416.22271@ms.uky.edu> kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron) writes:
>visti@cs.hut.fi (Hannu Visti) writes:
>
>>	Does anyone have a program or script that calculates the sizes 
>>(in kb:s) of all newsgroups?
>
>This is a vague question.  Exactly which statistics are you looking
>for?  The total volume of your news database?  The total volume of
>each group?  The total incoming volume?

I'm running a simple Perl script under INN which counts articles and
their sizes (for every newsgroup and (sub)hierarchy the article appears
in) and stores that in a DBM database. Every week, a cron job is supposed
to generate appropriate statistics.

I posted the resulting data to news.lists a few weeks ago and asked whether
anybody found the lists useful, but the response was exactly zero.  :-/

-- 
Cahn's Axiom
   When all else fails, read the instructions.
-- 
Matthias Urlichs  --  urlichs@smurf.sub.org -- urlichs@smurf.ira.uka.de   /(o\
Humboldtstrasse 7 -- 7500 Karlsruhe 1 -- Germany  --  +49-721-9612521     \o)/
From: rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Code-03 LCDR Michael E. Dobson)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: Ill-effects of a posting greater than 64k
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:27:53 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <BvGtrq.MK0@unix.amherst.edu> twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.174529.12311@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Code-03 LCDR Michael E. Dobson) writes:
>
>>More to your original question:  placing !alt.sex.picture in the sys file
>>entry on your system will not prevent the articles from being sent to you
>>by your feed, it needs to be in your entry in your feed's sys file.
>
>And of course, since my feed site *put* !alt.sex.pictures etc. in
>their sys file, I'm not getting the groups.  Please excuse me while I
>engage my brain.  :-)
>
Of course! ;-)  But you say you are still getting them?  Then I'd bet they
were crossposted to a group you do get.

What was your original question anyway, I seem to have fogotten. mumble,
mumble, Alzhei-something-or-other, mumble, mumble.
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc,news.admin
From: eggert@twinsun.com (Paul Eggert)
Subject: no more ``nonconforming news Message-IDs of last week''
Organization: Twin Sun, Inc
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:23:41 GMT

Rich Salz is now issuing a weekly article ``Articles rejected at
news.uu.net during the past week'', which contains a list of
nonconforming news Message-IDs rejected by UUNET.  This exhaustive
compendium obsoletes my little weekly posting on the same subject,
so I'm discontinuing it.  Thanks, Rich!
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Ill-effects of a posting greater than 64k
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:11:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.174529.12311@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> rdc30@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Code-03 LCDR Michael E. Dobson) writes:

>More to your original question:  placing !alt.sex.picture in the sys file
>entry on your system will not prevent the articles from being sent to you
>by your feed, it needs to be in your entry in your feed's sys file.

And of course, since my feed site *put* !alt.sex.pictures etc. in
their sys file, I'm not getting the groups.  Please excuse me while I
engage my brain.  :-)

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
From: guddt@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (David Bennett)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: NNTP with a local heiracy
Date: 6 Oct 1992 16:33:12 +0800
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au

We currently have a nntp link to a machine where we both post and retrive
our articles.  Is there any way currently to set it up so we can have
local groups stored on our hard drive yet still retrive the non local
groups from the other machine?

Share and enjoy,
David.
[DDT] Pink fish forever.
-- 
  David Bennett,  guddt@uniwa.uwa.oz.au | University Computer Club
     Where Pink fish swim backwards.    | c/o Guild of Undergraduates
These words I am singing now mean nothing more than meow to an animal - TMBG
Disclaimer: Any spelling mistakes in this article are all entirly my fault.  Any grammer errors spotted in this article were put there because I could.
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
From: kherron@ms.uky.edu (Kenneth Herron)
Subject: Non-compliant articles, week ending 4 October 92
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 11:44:21 GMT

         Invalid Headers, week ending 4 October 92

    The following is a list of articles which were dropped by the news 
    software here for a non-compliant header.  If a message ID from your 
    site is on this list then your news software may be out of compliance 
    with the RFCs on netnews articles and should be fixed.

Header contains non-header line:
	<2433@ceylon.gte.com>
		`References:<1992Sep24.002619.761@cactus.org> <1992Sep24.1...'
	<6831@transfer.stratus.com> `Followup-To:'
	<2755@bsu-cs.bsu.edu> `Sender:'
	<97092@bu.edu> `Distribution:'
	<1992Oct2.195957.12987@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
		`Followup-To:dhalism deficiency'
	<1992Sep30.141539.13541@eng.ufl.edu> `Subject:more FL swell '
	<91362@netnews.upenn.edu> `Organization:Penn Physicist Phactory'

Unapproved article in moderated group:
	<1aebk0INN4no@mthvax.cs.miami.edu> `comp.society.privacy'
	<1992Oct1.195904.24020@eng.ufl.edu> `comp.sys.next.announce'
	<1992Oct1.214217.856@eng.ufl.edu> `comp.sys.next.announce'
	<ARAKI.92Sep30104110@cs1.sfc.keio.ac.jp> `fj.rec.travel.air'
	<S91199MS.92Oct1113317@cs1.sfc.keio.ac.jp> `fj.rec.travel.air'
	<S91199MS.92Oct1113904@cs1.sfc.keio.ac.jp> `fj.rec.travel.air'
	<KOBAYASI.92Sep29003557@st00.pu-toyama.ac.jp> `fj.rec.travel.air'
	<KOBAYASI.92Sep29003720@st00.pu-toyama.ac.jp> `fj.rec.travel.air'
	<9202@epsongw.tp.epson.co.jp> `fj.rec.travel.world'
	<WATARAI.92Sep24182036@zigzag.isl.melco.co.jp> `fj.rec.travel.world'
	<HONG.92Oct1170807@nttsgw.yh.ntts.co.jp> `fj.rec.travel.world'
	<YOU.92Oct4111603@cygnus.lab3.yamaha.co.jp> `fj.rec.travel.air'
	<1992Oct1.114829.26935@etl.go.jp>
		`fj.rec.travel.world,fj.rec.travel.air'
	<1992Sep29.123224.5839@etl.go.jp> `fj.rec.travel.air'
	<1992Sep29.190515.11634@etl.go.jp> `fj.rec.travel.air'
	<dn1.h004b@lab.ntt.jp> `fj.rec.travel.air'
	<JOE.92Oct1162755@hoihoi.kocb.astem.or.jp> `fj.rec.travel.air'
	<BvFwEB.7yt@well.sf.ca.us> `comp.binaries.mac'
	<BvFwF8.7zs@well.sf.ca.us> `comp.binaries.mac'
	<BvFwG1.80z@well.sf.ca.us> `comp.binaries.mac'
	<BvFwGx.82H@well.sf.ca.us> `comp.binaries.mac'
	<BvFwHq.83H@well.sf.ca.us> `comp.binaries.mac'

No @ in Message ID:
	<920916233326.V92N1445brl.mil> 

No Subject or empty Subject:
	<1992Oct1.203110.26060@eng.ufl.edu> 
	<1992Sep28.175335.6074@eng.ufl.edu> 
	<1992Sep29.203223.25222@eng.ufl.edu> 

No From: header:
	<1992Sep29.055129.16250@liveware.com> 
	<1992Oct01.185842.16284@Veritas.COM> 
	<1992Sep30.145008.3575@news.nd.edu> 

No Date or unparsable Date:
	<01GPG2B41QBK8WW59Z@VzdmzA.ZDV.Uni-Mainz.DE>
		`Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:36 GMT +0100'

Date in future (when received):
	<-R+Ur*n11@dynam.adsp.sub.org> `29 Oct 92 17:25:03 GMT'
	<o4kVr*u11@dynam.adsp.sub.org> `30 Oct 92 17:34:00 GMT'
From: vjs@rhyolite.wpd.sgi.com (Vernon Schryver)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: distribution of local hierarchies
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:47:47 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In article <1992Oct05.202151.14255@watson.ibm.com>, c1dje@watson.ibm.com (David Edelsohn) writes:
> 
>         Is there interest in having the backbone sites implement this as
> well or is there enough of an interest in these local newsgroups off-site
> that they should be forwarded around the world?  In other words, should
> uunet, sura, and sgiblab (to name a few) filter newsgroups more
> agressively?  I am not trying to wage a campaign against these newsgroups,
> especially if many people find them useful, but it seems that
> "Distribution" should have some effect and help limit the ever-growing
> USENET bandwidth needs.


Wouldn't it be better if the ultimate sources of the offending
newsgroups would not send out anything they don't think the world wants
to see?

We tend to pass on exactly what comes in, including Canadian news
statistics and class notes from "cs" classes at zillions of
universities.

It is just too much trouble to figure out which of the more then 150
reasonable active hierarchies are interesting to someone, let alone
"legal."  (Actually, I think it's closer to 170 than 150, but you get
tired of doing new-groups after awhile, and you can't blindly honor
every newgroup that comes along, what with all of the socially
challenged children loose on the net.)

I bet many more places than ~150 have internal netnews hierarchies, but
most chose and are able to not spread their local stuff around.


Vernon Schryver,  vjs@sgi.com
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
From: c1dje@watson.ibm.com (David Edelsohn)
Subject: Re: distribution of local hierarchies
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 20:21:51 GMT
Reply-To: c1dje@tweetie (David Edelsohn)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <1992Oct5.181602.26749@das.harvard.edu>, bochner@das (Harry Bochner) writes:
>Indeed. Lots of articles like this show up inappropriately here as well.
>My understanding is that this is the result of sites using "all" in their
>sys files.
>
>The problem isn't big enough (here) to be a problem for us; we just don't forward
>the articles that shouldn't have reached us in the first place.
>

        Is there interest in having the backbone sites implement this as
well or is there enough of an interest in these local newsgroups off-site
that they should be forwarded around the world?  In other words, should
uunet, sura, and sgiblab (to name a few) filter newsgroups more
agressively?  I am not trying to wage a campaign against these newsgroups,
especially if many people find them useful, but it seems that
"Distribution" should have some effect and help limit the ever-growing
USENET bandwidth needs.

					David
===============================================================================
David Edelsohn                                      T.J. Watson Research Center
c$dje@watson.ibm.com                                P.O. Box 218
+1 914 945 3011 (Tieline 862)                       Yorktown Heights, NY 10598
"If somebody ought to protect George Bush from his campaign staff, then 
someone ought to protect us from him" -- Tom Wicker (ABC: This Week)
From: craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
Newsgroups: news.admin.misc
Subject: Re: distribution of local hierarchies
Date: 2 Oct 1992 09:11:25 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: decel.ecel.uwa.edu.au

c1dje@watson.ibm.com (David Edelsohn) writes:

>	I am curious as to what the consensus is on local and regional
>hierachies.  We seem to get local newsgroups from Rochester Polytechnic
>(rpi), University of Waterloo (uw), University of Minnesota (umn), and
>Rutgers (ru) to name a few.  We are not directly fed by any of these sites:
>the articles propagate through ANS and SURA in some cases.  Some articles
>specifically list limited distributions of which we are not a member.

I can't comment as I can't look, but these sort of things often happen with
cross-posted articles.  As a good example, you cross-post an article to
cs.misc and misc.misc and it pops up in computer science departments the
world over.  This is due to the fact that the news delivery mechanism will
distribute it worldwide due to the misc.misc group and the news reading
software displays it in cs.misc because it is cross-posted.

Bingo.

Craig
--
Craig Richmond.  Computer Officer -  Dept of Economics (morning) 380 3860
  University of Western Australia    Dept of Education (afternoon)
craig@ecel.uwa.edu.au                              Dvorak Keyboards RULE!
     "Only users are allowed to make messes on their computers"  I.M.VI
Newsgroups: news.admin
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Ill-effects of a posting greater than 64k
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 05:34:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.175956.19449JPII@tygra.Michigan.COM> jp@tygra.Michigan.COM (John Palmer) writes:

>If some site gets even a few groups and some asshole mis-posts GIFS
>to, say, alt.sex.pictures, which is NOT supposed to exist anymore,
>then that site could waste 12 hours trying to get these dirty, illegal
>pictures which they didn't want in the first place.

Why hasn't the site in question placed "!alt.sex.pictures" in their
sys file?  I think it would be a wise move under these dire
circumstances.  Additionally, how many binaries groups which are NOT
supposed to exist get traffic?

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "You are just naive and repressed because
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /  penis envy is here and it's now and it's
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /  all around you." -- Neal C. Wickham
Xref: sparky news.admin:7880 rec.video.satellite:5320 misc.forsale.computers:35795 biz.comp.services:293
From: dave@frackit.UUCP (Dave Ratcliffe)
Newsgroups: news.admin,rec.video.satellite,misc.forsale.computers,biz.comp.services
Subject: Re: Usenet News via Satellite
Keywords: Usenet Satellite 9600bps
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:03:21 GMT
Followup-To: news.admin
Distribution: usa
Organization: Data Factory Services, Harrisburg, Pa.

In article <BvABxz.383@ddsw1.mcs.com>, karl@ddsw1.mcs.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
> Note that "Stargate" died, and so have the other "news by satellite" people
> which have come before.

Considering the fact that these guys are doing other things besides
selling news feeds I get the impression that they'll be around for
awhile. 

But then again, I thought Pet Rocks were neat too. :(




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