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From: pmorris@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: Adrian Adonis
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:06:08 GMT

In article <450qVB9w164w@jaflrn.UUCP>, Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP> writes:
> b706zdj@utarlg.uta.edu (Jason Brown) writes:
> 
>> Adrian Adonis was killed a few years ago in the Dallas Fort Worth Area in a
>> van crash. Several other wrestlers were killed, one of which may have been 
>> Cowboy Bob Orton (but don't hold me to it). Just thought i'd shed some light 
>> on the topic.
>  
> ...but it wasn't enough.
>  
> Adonis, Dave McKigney, and two other wrestlers were driving to a house show 
> in NEWFOUNDLAND (I think -- definitely Canada, which eliminates Dallas) and 
> their van went off the road.
>  
> Bob Orton Jr is still alive.
>  
> --Don
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This must surely be on the FAQ. I've posted the info. at least a half-dozen 
times over the past four years and e-mailed countless others.

Adrian Adonis was killed when the van in which he was riding left the road 
just outside of Lewisporte in Central Newfoundland (it's about a half-hour 
drive from Gander -- site of the international airport and the Arrow Air
crash that claimed U>S> servicemen returning from the mid-east three
years ago). In addiiton to injuries to the other wrestlers, one of the 
roadies was eventually busted for trying to steal the house receipts from 
the show the night before -- this happened in the aftermath of the accident 
and buddy must have figured he could get away with it in the confusion, the 
sleaze.

Stig (in Newfoundland)
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From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Re: Grow Up (WAS Re: How Old Are You?)
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world 
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:17:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec10.161643.791@dracut.keps.com>, Sue Klimowicz writes:
>Neil.Rodgers@newcastle.ac.uk (Neil Rodger) writes:
>>Are you bent or what? Any real bloke would have realised by now the all
>>professional wrestling is rigged? Anyone over the age of 6 (except of
>>course women) must have realised.

> Well KID, I resent your implication that women have an intelligence level
> of a 6 year old.  This is the nineties and your attitude towards women is
> outdated and indicates a low maturity level.
>                                .
>                                .
>                                .
> By the way, every dictionary I have shows realized with a z. Even a 6
> year can use a dictionary.

Not to defend the a**hole, but *most* people know how to read an address line,
and thus realize that the British, who can't spell, spell realize "realise".
See?
           Neil.Rodgers@newcastle.ac.uk
                                     ^^ 
**Soapbox mode ON**

I thought we made an agreement (of a sort, after lots of stupid flame wars)
not to "correct" people's spelling or grammar in posts (at least in the
form of flames).

(BTW, an English major could easily have fun with YOU--don't you know that 
people spell numbers between one and ten?  I'm also not sure if a "6 year" 
[don't know what that is...] can use a dictionary, but a six year-old can.
See?  Nobody's perfect.)

Regarding his post, or any other from oblivious dickheads who like to
insult us (fans), he probably doesn't even read this group, so why flame
him via post?  This crap happens probably once a week, at least lately.  And 
not just here.  In rec.music.gdead (a Grateful Dead newsgroup), someone
posted in last week, I think, telling everyone to take baths and get
haircuts.  Right before that, in alt.rock-n-roll.metal, it's someone
telling everyone to get Stridex and haircuts.  Ad nauseum.

People that post into groups outside their interest, usually insinuating
that those fans of the group's subject need to "get lives"  or "grow up" 
often don't examine themselves closely enough.  'Nuf said.

**Soapbox mode OFF**

============================>Robert McMullen<============================

    The opinions expressed in this message in no way reflect those of
   ASK Computer Systems, Inc.  Flames welcome, but highly uncalled for!

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From: cquimb1@server.uwindsor.ca (QUIMBY  COREY            )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Test
Date: 20 Dec 1992 02:51:53 GMT
Organization: University of Windsor, Ontario, Canada

...

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From: jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo)
Subject: Re: RR/WM9 THE Prediction.
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:41:19 GMT

In article <1gkl4pINN5au@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ac985@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel Tscherne) writes:
>
>In a previous article, awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh) says:
>
>No.  The winner of the RR will face the WWF champ at WM9; there's a
>difference.  The rumor on GEnie has Flair getting the title back from
>Hart & Perfect winning the RR...

I'm curious, Isn't Flair supposed to be taking a few months off?  He is 
scheduled to wrestle Bret Hart January 1.  

Does that mean the inner ear infection has just a hoax?

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From: rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan)
Subject: Re: Flair vs. Ramon
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:57:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.013736.3077@peanut> owentracyjea@bvc.edu (Tracy) writes:
>?: 
>>> This is shaping up the same way The Undertaker/Jake Roberts feud came about.

>Jason:
>> Really???? So you mean that they're going to bring Hart's wife into this,
>> have Flair constantly badmouthing her (I don't count the one incident
>> on the interview for much), and have Ramon stop Flair from hitting husband
>> and wife when they return to the dressing room after a match? Yeah, it
>> could happen... and monkeys might fly outta........

>   What are you talking about here?  I remember Jake and his wife being 
>involved in something but not with Undertaker.  BTW who was that all with, 
>it has since slipped my mind?

More evidence that we should rename this group rec.sport.failing-memories.
;-)

Anyway, two things are being confused here.  In one angle, Rick Rude
approached an attractive woman after a match to apply the non-wrestling
Rude Awakening (a kiss) on her.  She refused and slapped him.  He
got mad and grabbed her arm.  He looked as if he were on the verge of
hitting her.  Of course, the woman turned out to be Cheryl Roberts,
Jake's wife, which set up a feud.

In the other angle, Jake, recently made a heel, started harrassing
Randy Savage's wife, Elizabeth.  He sent her a snake for a wedding
gift and so on.  After Jake's cobra almost killed Savage ;-), Savage
was allowed to come out of retirement to fight Jake.  After one match
on Saturday Night's Main Event, the show ended with Jake backstage,
holding a chair and swearing that he'd hit whoever came through the
curtains first, Savage or Elizabeth.  Outside, Elizabeth was leading
Savage toward the curtains.  The show ended.  On the syndies the next
week, they showed what happened: Elizabeth came through the curtains,
Jake raised the chair and...the Undertaker grabbed it.  A face turn
for the Undertaker had begun.

>   Who was the Powers of Pain "manager"?  And the next question: Is Curt 
>Hennig really married?  That's news to me.  If the answer is 'yes' when did 
>this take place.  I met him in Sioux City, IA two years ago and not to my 
>knowlegde was he married at the time.

The Powers of Pain were brought into the WWF by a member of Strike Force,
I think Tito, because Demolition had injured the other one (Martel).
Maybe it was the other way around.  Anyway, the WWF soon forgot this
angle.  Next, the PoP were managed by "The Baron," who was Baron Von
Raschke from the AWA.  This didn't last that long either, and they
started appearing by themselves.  At a Survivor Series, Mr. Fuji
doublecrossed Demolition, turning them into faces and the PoP into
heels managed by Fuji.

I don't know anything about Hennig's marriage.

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From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: Re: A new face on the net [WWF]
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling (wres)
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I haven't seen any follow-ups to this yet, so I'll take a stab at it...

Rick Scaia writes:

> Greetings, fellow wrestling fans.  

Welcome to r.s.p-w

> 1)  Two separate posts have two different people pegged as the
>     WWF's clown (one was Big Josh, and the other I've already
>     forgotten).  Which, if either, is correct?

It is indeed Matt "Big Josh" Bourne.  I'm assuming he shaved off his beard,
since it would take a lot of clown makeup to cover up a beard.

> 2)  Also, different post-Royal Rumble departures have been 
>     mentioned... like Earthquake, Papa Shango, and Tito Santana.
>     Different arrivals include the Steiners (though this seems
>     all but confirmed) and Big Van Vader.  Which of these
>     transactions will be occurring?

I wouldn't bet on Papa Shango or Tito leaving quite that soon.

I think it was Tugboat that was taking some  time off  to be  with his kid.
They probably are giving Quake some time  off at  the same  time instead of
putting him back  in singles  competition.   Then again,  wasn't there some
talk about him getting fired for something or other?  Or  was that specula-
tive?

Steiners - I think have a WWF TV taping "Real Soon Now".

Vader - I haven't heard anything  about Leon  being WWF-bound.   I've heard
both "getting pushed in WCW when  his wrist  heals" (and  his wrist doesn't
seem to be giving him much trouble lately) or  "back to  Japan, possibly in
trade for a loan of a few of their guys".   Wasn't Baby  Bull only supposed
to be "on loan" to WCW anyway?  Or did I dream that?   If he  is indeed "on
loan"...  it must be a fairly (for wrestling) long-term loan.

> In addition, I'd appreciate it if someone could get me caught
> up on some of the things you all take for granted... namely,
> wrestlers real names and some of the abbreviations you use.

Both of these are in nice long lists that  get posted  periodically to this
newsgroup.  Stick around and they'll show up.

> Rick Scaia                               "If I die before I wake,
> University of Dayton                      Hope I don't
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> "Future WWF World Champion"                    - Kurt Cobain

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From: owentracyjea@bvc.edu (Tracy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: WHY???????
Date: 20 Dec 92 16:14:06 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <hit.724667002@sol>, hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe) writes:
> bolt@wpi.WPI.EDU (some asshole) writes:
> 
>>Most of the people who post here should be directed to rec.stupid.phil-stromer
> 
> Some people just have a big attitude when he knows nobody is gonna come
> get him.  My university isn't a good one, but what is WimPI? You sure ain't
> from one of Ivy League schools, are you?  Oh well, you still call them 
> stupid...
> 
> Why am I writing to this guy when this wimp is never gonna come back and
> read other posts???-- 

--

  I read this group to see what has been happening and to get questions 
anwsered not to hear this stuff and about this phil-person.  TAKE IT 
ELSEWHERE!  Pleassssssssssssse!  Thanks!
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From: wen5@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Stan T2 Wen)
Subject: Re: Questions I've always wan
Reply-To: wen5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:00:13 GMT

In article <5181.137.uupcb@ssr.com> dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer)  writes:

>MJ>5) More up to date: who is this Shanghai Pierce guy? I saw him on WCW
>  >Saturday Night and couldn't recognize him.
>
>He is Mark Canterbury, who was the exclusive jobber to Erika Watts.  He
>is decent and deserves a shot.

I noticed that he had some pretty new moves and was neither as fat or incom-
petent as Tex Slashenjerk.

BTW, I saw Skaggs this week on WCW twice, and it was awesome!  The guy is
a better acrobat than Pillman, and I have never seen that weird aerial
twist into a sunset flip-type move over a guy who just ran into the turn-
buckle.  There are a few good newcomers in WCW, and I hope this allows them
a future spot among the superstars.  But there are also Johnny Gunn and
EWww to fill the bottom.

Ron Simmons vs. Tony Atlas this weekend was boring as hell, but Skaggs,
Rude's squash against EWww, and Cactus Jack's painful squash of that
weak small jobber made it a pretty decent WCW weekend.

Oh, and did anybody catch EWww's quote: "I don't understand why he [Rick
Rude] would turn his back to me."  Even the mark perspective says, 
"Because he just beat you to a pulp and pinned you!"  Typical lack of
logic from team Watts.
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From: rusbasan@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Bob Rusbasan)
Subject: Re: PWI
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:44:11 GMT

In article <Bz1zLI.1pD@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) writes:
>  The publishers who put out the magazines also publich WCW Magazine, so they
>favor WCW over WWF.  

Whoa...hold on there a second.  This is the second time I've read this
here, but, based on my somewhat limited knowledge, I do not believe
this to be true.

When Vince decided to take over the world in the mid-80's, one of his
first steps was to court the mainstream media while giving the
established wrestling media the shaft.  The Wrestling News reported
that McMahon offered them quite a lot if they started covering the
WWF exclusively, but they refused.  I would not be surprised if they
made similar offers to the other magazines.

Everyone that didn't fall into line (ie, everyone) lost their press
credentials at WWF events.  This is why all of the WWF pictures are
shot from afar, while the pics of other federations are usually shot
through the ring ropes.  No WWF wrestlers are allowed to talk to the
non-WWF press, which is why PWI and other magazines have stories based
on "an insided WWF source" all of the time, while their other stories
have quotes from actual wrestlers in other federations.

Now and then, you'll see something that makes you think the WWF is
cooperating more, but if you look closely you'll usually find out
that the magazine got their interview or whatever from a public
press conference.

Before Vince did this, PWI was pretty fair.  The WWF, for quite some
time, did not even claim their title was on the "world" level, and
they acknowledged the NWA World title.  Once Vince started changing
the WWF, it became quite silly, so I can't blame PWI for favoring
the older, more respectable NWA.  In the past few years, I have
flipped through several PWI's where the WWF champion was ranked
number one, so I don't know if they are at all that biased even
now.

WCW Magzine is very new, and it is certainly not the reason for the
alleged PWI bias.  The WWF systematically snubbed them for so long
that they were driven into the arms of the non-WWF federations
(which basically means WCW now, on a national scale).  WCW was
used to cooperating with them, and when they decided to do a magazine
of their own they formed an alliance with them instead of trying to
crush them out of existence, WWF-style.  I believe that the PWI
people would have done the same for the WWF in the mid-80's if the
WWF had been reasonable, but I'm sure the WWF would have wanted them
to stop covering rival federations in all of their magazines and
so on.  Even with the PWI - WCW partnership, the WCW Champion is
not guaranteed the number one spot in the PWI rankings.

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From: bolt@wpi.WPI.EDU (Brandon Scott Coley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: You know who
Date: 18 Dec 1992 01:04:30 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

Most of the people who post here should be directed to rec.stupid.phil-stromer
From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Knight & Warriors
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:08:29 EST
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Organization: The State of CT.... NOT!
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

I know one of the female warriors on this silly show is Cameo Knuer (sp?),
but is the big fat one Queen Kong from GLOW fame?

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From: mk009b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matt Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Wrestling Challenge
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 10:53:29 GMT

In <1992Dec20.101708.3998@news.columbia.edu> rj24@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Robert  Johnston) writes:

>In article <1h0vemINNpo0@bigboote.WPI.EDU> steveso@wpi.WPI.EDU (Steven C Sousa) writes:

>>
>>Bamm Bamm v. Mike Collins
>>	During match, Gorilla reminds us that the ref can stop the match at
>>	any time. Has anyone ever seen that done?

>Yup. Just a couple of weeks before he died, a match between Rick Mcgraw
>and Roddy Piper was aired in which the ref stopped the match after Piper
>gave McGraw 3 consecutive ddt's.



This was a great match early on with a great set up.  McGraw was a guest on 
Piper's Pit and a heated argument broke out over why Piper never wrestles on
TV, and McGraw is out there week after week doing jobs with an occaisional
win, remember he pinned Ric Flair in a non-title match in the NWA.

Anyway I remember Piper after the referee stopped the match saying here's
why they don't let me wrestle on TV.

It was a classic.


Matt Kaufman
Class of 1993
From: jnash@alfred.carleton.ca (John Nash)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Random Thoughts
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:20:33 GMT
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada

In article <1gqi5bINNglt@bigboote.WPI.EDU> bolt@wpi.WPI.EDU (Brandon Scott Coley) writes:
>OK, Lets get a few things staight from the start:

>-Is there anyone else here that actually likes a wrestler from some reason
> other than "He's a heel."?

Yep!  The Undertaker... heel, face, slow work rate, fast work rate - don't
care.  He brings out the mark in me (no pun intended)!

J.
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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Sasaki and Hawk
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:59:11 GMT

dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster) writes:

>Accourding to one of the sheets (either Torch or Observer) they are no longer 
>wrestling as the New Road Warriors. Hawk has now spoken with Animal and decided
>it wasn't fair to use the Road Warriors name etc.

Their new name is Hell Lasers(sp?).
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From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Where is the Iceman!
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:13:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

HK>  It was a rare attempt at the "mistaken identity" humour that pervades
  >  the net at times.  Since I couldn't say that Parsons was Steve DiSalvo
  >  or the Ultimate Warrior II, I tried to stay realistic.

Guess I am still too new to pick up the humor.

HK>  Sorry.

No Problem here.  I thought that you HAD to have seen Iceman.
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