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From: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: Casual observations...
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:07:56 GMT
Reply-To: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <92279.165413MAX@psuvm.psu.edu>, MAX@psuvm.psu.edu (Mark K.
Miller) writes:
|>In article <1992Oct1.202346.22751@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>,
c9a-az@po.berkeley.edu
|>(Mark Fujimoto) says:
|>>
|>>There's an old bowling adage that goes, "make your spares and the
|>>strikes will come".  I fully believe and support that thought, but
|>
|>This is a load of hooey!!!  I've shot spares in this game for 25 years
|>now.  I better run right out and get my PBA card so I'm ready when
|>my strikes come!
|>
|>>I've added my own corollary to that: "Strike often, and then the
|>>spares will become easier!"  What I mean is that when you learn to
|>
|>This makes much more sense.  And the means to this end is 'no-tap'
|>tournaments.  I've started cashing in them on a regular basis; just
|>won one two days ago.
|>
	IMHO. "make the spares and the strikes will come." is usefull when
first learning (i.e. spares are important to be a respectable bowler).
This is the easiest to see improvement scorewise. Later on though it's
important to know that 9-spares count more then 7 spares and strikes will
only come through constantly pounding the pocket (especially for the once
a week bowler). Keep the ball in the pocket even on bad nights and eventually
the pins will fall. I try real hard to stress this with teamates. Don't get
discourged when the strikes don't come, keep the ball in the pocket, and 
eventually some night or game they will all start to fall.

|>>single pin variety -- usually easier.  Yeah, yeah, I too despise the
|>>10-pin, but I'd rather be in the hole and shoot at 10's as opposed to
|>
|>10 pins are now my easiest spare.  After you leave as many as I have
|>there comes a time when you decide to never miss them anymore.  Yes,
|>I'm a right hander.
	10 pin is one of my easier spares. I just pop the thumb,flatten the ball,
hit 3rd arrow (right side), and go. Now the 7 pin that's another natter all
together.

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From: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Subject: Getting closer 
Reply-To: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 18:51:55 GMT

	Well I'm finally bowling semi respectable again. 221 - 169 -220.
In the middle game I just stop being aggressive on the first shot
and wound up with 7 count's. Of course I then proceeded to blow 2 of these.
Other then this i'm quite happy. The biggest difference is that i was able
to maintain good concentration all night. The first couple of weeks my
concentration would just die for 3 to 4 shots a game. This of course usually
resulted in open's.
	Can I thank alt.sport.bowling ? i will anyway

	Thank you
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From: c9a-az@po.berkeley.edu (Mark Fujimoto)
Subject: Re: tacky urethane
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:28:52 GMT

In article <BvD1EC.Hnv@acsu.buffalo.edu> v060p9rr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT) writes:
>
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>	can someone please tell me what this rage is all about?
 
Sure...Balls of this type, namely, the Brunswick Rhino Pro purple, the
Nu Line X-Calibur pearl, the HSP Storm teal and blue, the Columbia
ProHook and ProHook Extreme, and the Ebonite Turbo-X, all have a
urethane shell that is not slick nor rough (sanded).  The shell is
"tacky" or sticky-feeling.  If you run your hand over the surface of
the ball, you will feel your hand drag, even though the surface is
shiny.

The characteristic of this type of ball is to skid long and hook VERY
sharply at the back end.  The smooth, shiny surface provides for early
skid.  Once friction does catch up with forward velocity, the inherent
tackiness creates a high level of ball surface-to-lane friction,
resulting in later hook than was previously available in urethanes.

Most of the time, when I hear someone describe how it is they want a
ball to react, it is usually "...go long and then snap".  Well, these
balls do that for you.  Many people who throw fairly hard are finding
these balls to give an even stronger reaction than with sanded urethane.

These balls are generally not good heavy oil balls, since they have
this tendency to skid long and hook late.  Often, on heavier oil, they
will skid too long before "flipping" or have an unpredictable flip, or
no flip at all.  But with creative drilling techniques, one can temper 
down the degree of reaction to more controllable levels.  
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Personal for Bob and Warren
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F0F71A77012631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 1 Oct 92 23:42:34 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:49:26 GMT

Sorry for the general post folks but my mailer is
acting up (again)...

The B. Hammers have arrived!  Warren I will mail out
your ball tomorrow at lunchtime.  Bob, I will bring
your ball to league tonight.

hm...now where are the Columbia Prohooks?

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
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"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
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From: MAX@psuvm.psu.edu (Mark K. Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: Casual observations...
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:51:30 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Sep30.171417.16306@worldbank.org>, aki
<aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org> says:
>
>Ya know.....
>
>Ever since I messed up my shoulder I've noticed two things...
>
>Strangely enough..
>
>My average has increased  ...and..
>I hardly _ever_ miss a spare.

I would have almost guessed as much when you reported your injury.
I've never been able to get close to being a cranker.  I've been a spare
shooter all my life.  Just a few weeks ago I threw a six bagger in a 255
game.  That's my highest game and biggest string of strikes ever.  I
average around the upper 170's now and a few years ago was in the mid
190's.  I've *never* been able to string strikes like good crankers when
they are on.

>So what's the moral of the story?  If you want to become a better
>bowler..
>
>GO OUT *RIGHT NOW* AND TEAR THE LIVING SHIT OUT OF YOUR SHOULDER
>AND TEAR ALOT OF MUSCLES IN YOUR FOREARM AS WELL JUST FOR
>GOOD MEASURE.  DON'T DO ANY FOLLOWUP TREATMENTS LIKE YOUR
>DOCTOR TELLS YOU AND BOWL UNTIL IT *REALLY* HURTS BAD!

No no no!  The moral is that extreme bolwing is good for extremely few
bowlers.  Two of the highest average bowlers I know (real nice guys and
fun to bowl with) are my favorite examples of how not to bowl when I'm
providing advice for friends.

>This is the true way to bowling nirvana...trust me...

HA!  I scoff at your bowling nirvana, and your military intelligence and
jumbo shrimp!!!

>no?...you bunch of sissies.....it worked for me...

Yes, I'm a bowling sissy.  I just recently got a heavier ball; I think
this 15 pounder in going to work out just fine.
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: Revenge of the baby powdered bowlers :-)
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X-Xxdate: Sat, 26 Sep 92 18:58:52 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
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Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:05:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.165454.8879@balr.com> Richard A. Krause,
rich@balr.com writes:
>I've been following this thread and haven't seen this mentioned so I
thought
>I'd post.  When I step in water with my slide foot, I fix the shoe with a
>pencil.  I just color over the wet spot then rub my foot on the carpet.
>Usually after two or three repetitions, my shoe is back to normal.  The
>reason I like this is because there is no way to use too much pencil so I
>will not leave any foreign substance on the approach, and I can always
>get a pencil from the counter.  Also, the friction from rubbing the shoe
on
>the carpet drys the spot so the problem is solved until I step in water
again.
>I've never used any type of slide stick but I would imagine that under
the slide
>stick stuff on your shoe is still a wet spot and when the stuff wears
off you
>you begin to stick at the line again.
>

Pencil lead works well, what I have also used in a pinch is cigarette
ashes to do the same thing.  If you REALLY step in a bad puddle, the
hand dryer in the restroom works very well to quickly dry out the
shoe.  Just take your shoe off and hold it up next to the blower for 10
or 15 secs, works every time...

Regards,
-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
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From: mafu@ocf.berkeley.edu (Mark Fujimoto)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: >>> WANTED: Bowlers for Cal Bowling Teams <<<
Followup-To: ucb.general
Date: 3 Oct 1992 18:54:43 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: ucb
NNTP-Posting-Host: monsoon.berkeley.edu

---------Attention: Cal Students interested in Bowling----------     

Do you enjoy bowling?  Would you like to meet up with others who share
your interest and possibly compete on an intercollegiate level?  The
UC Berkeley mens' and womens' teams invite you to come out and show
your skills.  The first tryouts have already been held, but bowlers
will constantly be evaluated throughout the year.  The only current
organized practice is held on Fridays from 3-5 PM at the ASUC Under-
ground Lanes; if you cannot make it then and would like more informa-
tion, call 547.1178 and ask for Andre, or you may respond to this
account.  Hope to see some new faces out there!
From: berman@nlm.nih.gov (Lew Berman)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Former PBA bowler Bob Perry
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:36:53 GMT
Reply-To: berman@nlm.nih.gov
Organization: National Library of Medicine

Has anyone ever heard of Bob Perry (from New Jersey).  I haven't
heard about him in a long time.  He is a very famous bowler
in New Jersey and was on the PBA tour for a while.  He is a very
high backswing and can really turn the ball.  Great form and 
footwork.  He used to bowl with Teata Semiz.

Any info would be apprecaited.

Lew Berman
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: New Bowling balls!
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6EDE5906E032631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 29 Sep 92 15:50:56 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:57:40 GMT

I have received notice on the following new balls if anyone would
like to order them...you know the drill...
FYI for all the people that have already ordered balls from my last
post, I have not received them to date.  I expect them to start 
coming in sometime this week and will turn around and mail
them out you immediately.

Track Inc. has informed us their T-Shark and Volcano bowling
balls are readily available to our membership and they have been 
cleared for us beginning Oct. 17, 1992.  The black T-Shark ball
is urethane in composition, has a D-scale reading of 76-78 and is 
available in weights of 14-16lbs.

The blue Volcano bowling ball is urethane in composition, has a D-scale
durometer reading of 76-78 and is available in weights of 10-16lbs.

PBA members can purchase two of each of the balls (in one shipment)
for a cost of $72 per ball for the T-Shark and $40 per ball for the
Volcano,
which includes shipping and handling.  Please send your PBA number
and check to Track Inc...etc etc etc...Orders will be shipped within
five business days.

*************

Ebonite International has informed us their Turbo-X bowling is readily 
available to our membership and has been cleared for use in competition 
beginning Oct. 17,1992.  The purple urethane ball has a D-scale durometer
reading of 76-77 and is available in weights of 14-16lbs.

PBA members can purchase two balls at $55 per ball, which includes
shipping and handling.  Please specify gross weight and top weight
range when ordering.  Members should make their checks payable to
Ebonite International Inc,....etc etc etc...The offer will expire on Oct
30, 1992.

*************

Ok, that's it...same as before...anyone who would like to order, send me
e-mail,
call me or post a reply.  First come, first served.  I will post when the
orders
have been filled.  As before, please call your local UPS office to find
out
how much the shipping will be for your weight ball from Reston Va
(northern
Virgina) to your home address and include that cost in  your check.  As
soon
as I receive the checks, I will mail out the order.  I will advise all
who order
when I received their check and when I recieve the balls and have sent
them
out.

Regards,

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
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"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: Names on bowling balls
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F0BAC2E0042631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 1 Oct 92 19:25:06 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:31:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.154627.15649@hspice.portal.com> ,
gregw@hspice.portal.com writes:
>The name "Heap of Shit" also comes to mind, 'cause that's
>what I usually call it at least once per night :-)


the only ball I can remember in the past several years that I actually
engraved was a Black Knight...I called it "No Tap" since that ball
almost always left the ten pin on me.!

Besides that I don't usually engrave it.  The pro shops that I trade in
my balls to don't like it for one thing.  It's just more to plug when they
want to resell it..


-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
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"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: fleck@col.hp.com (Dave Fleck)
Subject: Another ruined ball...
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:37:35 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division


Thanks to good old Harmony lanes here in Colorado Springs my faithful
Sumo is dust...

Picture this...  you are working on a great  series...  you start with
a 225 with no opens.  The third  frame  rolls  around  and you pick up
your  ball to  throw a spare  and  your  hand  feels a big hole on the
bottom.  2 inches  wide by 2 inches long by 1/8th deep.  And of course
it is right in the  track.  I was  forced  to use my extra  ball  that
doesn't  react  anything  like the  Sumo...  So I went from a 225 to a
117.

So  basically I was polite and nice about this with  management.  (Not
quite!)  and now I have a brand  new Sumo  but I  wouldn't  trust  the
people  there  to  drill  a  Columbia  Orange  dot...  so  I am  going
somewhere  else,  of  course  the  bowling  alley  is  paying  for the
drilling (I was not happy!!).

I have  also got to  thinking  that it is time to  change  balls, I am
thinking of getting a Rhino Pro.  So I make this offer...  any one who
wants a Brand New 16lb Sumo (15lb 14 1/2 oz) ball can either buy it or
trade for a new Black Rhino Pro...  this could be a bargain  since the
Rhino Pro is cheaper than the Sumo...

Dave
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From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: PBA "TV" attire
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6EF5DB456102631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 30 Sep 92 18:35:48 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:42:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.165455.27114@wuecl.wustl.edu> Bob Kollmeyer,
rjk1@cec1.wustl.edu writes:
>ahh, the advantages of not being a pba member Ahh. ;)
>
>Word around St. Louis was the first was indeed for substance abuse, the
second
>was, as I recall, for overturning a table in anger at I believe PBA
officials.
>I don't recall exactly what the anger was based on (a foul call, not
making the
>cut, etc).
>
>but you didn't hear it from me.
>

...ah er...em.....er...(cough cough) no comment...

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: PBA Schedule
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6EFA4313C122631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Wed, 30 Sep 92 23:36:33 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:43:19 GMT

In article <wperz.60.0@srg1.psych.pitt.edu> Walter Perz,
wperz@srg1.psych.pitt.edu writes:
>Where can I find (or can someone post) a schedule for the PBA tour?
>Specifically, where cities are on what dates, and what if any TV
coverage 
>there will be.
>

I got a copy of it at home somewhere...I'll be glad to post it as
soon as I can dig it up...

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: Casual observations...
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F0D298AA082631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 1 Oct 92 21:06:48 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
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Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:13:35 GMT

In article <BvGI2z.MAB@encore.com> Debbie Millard, dmillard@encore.com
writes:
>Here's a question for the pros in the group - are our averages
>destined to always be in the 170's because of this?  I throw an
>average hook - around board 10, with my slide finishing around
>the center spot.  
>

Not at all...infact with the additional oil SOME houses are starting
to lay down, (I think you might see an ongoing trend), 
the people who DON'T really crank the ball are scoring
consistantly better.

One of the things I've noticed is that when I used to crank the ball
alot and the lane conditions were _really_ wet, I scored really
bad since I always habitually _expected_ the ball to come back,
which of course it didn't under very heavy oil.  Now that I _can't_
crank the ball as much, I have a more consistant break under
almost all conditions.  Remember some of the all time greats
(Earl Anthony, Dick Weber etc) were not big crankers.  They
relied on accuracy.  Anyone can kill someone in a crowd with a
shotgun but it takes more skill to carefully hit only the
intended target...so to speak...(oh ok it's a lousy example..but 
what do you expect at 4 in the afternoon in D.C.?)...

:-)

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: Crazy series
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F74BB748042631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 6 Oct 92 18:57:11 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
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Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:04:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.174108.30261@europa.asd.contel.com> Bob Ashley,
ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com writes:
>However, I believe your team still picked up a win in that game. 
Whenever
>that happens to me, I thank my teammates for holding me up, forget about
the
>game, and go out and bowl a good one   :-)

Actually I believe you're right we DID win that game...go figure...
Want's really ironic is usually the best game you've bowled in
months ends up being the game your team loses...murphys law #13...

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
*************************************
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: tom@celtics.b8.ingr.com (Tom Adams)
Subject: Sorry, Test
Reply-To: tom@celtics.b8.ingr.com
Organization: "Intergraph Corp, Huntsville AL"
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:12:13 GMT

test
From: v060p9rr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: tacky urethane
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:06:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


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  [][][][][] [] [][][] [] [] []  *  LAMBDA PHI EPSILON------SPANKY             *
 []       [][] []   [] []  [][]  *  "Here'sMr.BustaRhymewitdaSCENARIO" TCQuest *
[][][][][][]  []    [] []    []  *  "BUUUDDDYYYBUUUDDDDYYY" Raiden (MK)        *
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	can someone please tell me what this rage is all about?
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: wperz@srg1.psych.pitt.edu (Walter Perz)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: Another weird night ...
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:52:34 GMT
Organization: Smoking Research Group

>Tough way to learn the lesson.  Shake it off and do better next week!
>Oh...you may want to steel wool the sole to see if that gets the
>gunk off.
>
>Debbie M.

Debbie

Thanks for the advice, but the girl at the counter tried that, and it just 
darkened the sole.  Maybe Aki's solution wil work better.

ttfn

Walter
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