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From: edwin@cs.ruu.nl (Edwin Kremer)
Subject: Elm-2.4 and site-wide NFS-mounted /usr/[spool/]/mail
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:50:43 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science


We have mail configured on our systems such that the user mailboxes  are
in  one  directory  on  a  central mailserver machine. This directory is
mounted over NFS on  many  other  systems.  Sendmail  (5.65c+IDA1.4.4.1)
takes  care  of  correct delivery to the central mailserver host. Elm is
just used as a mail user agent.

To prevent users from running more than one  Elm  session  on  different
machines,  but  on  the  same  mailbox,  I've  configured Elm to put its
working copies of the mailbox in  "/usr/[spool/]/mail/WORKSPACE",  which
is  also  shared  among  all  systems.  This "mbox.<user>" locking works
perfectly well.

However, Elm 2.4 introduced some other files  as  well,  especially  the
status file "est.<pid>". Well, we (of course) can do the impossible, but
we can't guarantee the uniqueness of <pid>  on  many  systems :-)
 I  would prefer  if  we (the development group and the net) could agree
on    a    name   change    for    this    status    file    --    would
"est.<hostname>.<pid>"   be sufficient? Any other ideas?


Something completely different: I was told that  'Configure'  failed  to
find   "fcntl   locking"   on  Ultrix systems (Ultrix 4.3 (Rev. 44)). It
should try a little harder though... Here's a cdiff:


*** Configure.old	Mon Dec  7 22:36:06 1992
--- Configure	Fri Dec 11 15:05:14 1992
***************
*** 2156,2161 ****
--- 2156,2164 ----
  if $contains F_SETLK /usr/include/sys/fcntl.h >/dev/null 2>&1; then
      echo 'F_SETLK found, fcntl locking available'
      has_fcntl="$define"
+ elif $contains F_SETLK /usr/include/sys/file.h >/dev/null 2>&1; then
+     echo 'F_SETLK found, fcntl locking available'
+     has_fcntl="$define"
  elif $contains F_SETLK /usr/include/sys/fcntlcom.h >/dev/null 2>&1; then
      echo 'F_SETLK found, fcntl locking available'
      has_fcntl="$define"



Thanks for your time.

						--[ Edwin ]--
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From: tom@smart.bo.open.de (Thomas Neumann)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Time Zone Problem
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:48:16 +0100
Organization: News at smart
NNTP-Posting-Host: smart.bo.open.de
Keywords: NeXT, elm, timezone
X-Newsreader: NN version 6.4.19

hogan@radiomail.net (Emmett Hogan) writes:

>Well, thanks to the help of a few nice people in this newsgroup
>I got elm up and running on my NeXT machine.  Now I have just one
>small, but annoying problem...Date header is wrong.  Actually, it is just  
>the offset from GMT that is a tad bit wrong...instead of looking like:

>Date: Wed,  9 Dec 1992 10:41:29 -0700 GMT

>it looks like this:

>Date: Wed, 9 Dec 1992 12:34:16 -36803936 (PST)


I believe this is due to the Configure script defining both TZNAME
and TZ_MINUTESWEST in "config.h". This breaks the code in getarpadate() .

At the end of the Configure run, when it offers you to edit config.sh,
take your chance and change the value of d_tzname to 'undef' and make
sure the value of d_tz_min is 'define'.

This did the trick for me.

bye -- Thomas
From: syd@dsi.com (Syd Weinstein)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: 'Copy' ignored in 'send-menu' ???
Keywords: Mail lost
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:19:30 GMT
Reply-To: syd@DSI.COM
Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc., Huntingdon Valley, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: dsinc.dsi.com

stucki@math.fu-berlin.de (Christoph von Stuckrad) writes:
>Well, as a followup... I coud reproduce that under PL17 !
>Scenario:
>1) elm
>2) 'm' / Addresse / Subject / editor-session ...
>3) When the menue with default 's' comes up I hit 'c'
>4) then I enter an file/folder-name (I tried '/tmp/blerg' AND '=blerg')
>5) I use '! less <folder>' OR leave elm then look into folder
>   and the typed message is NOWHERE TO BE SEEN ... 

>Slightly more irritated, Stucki

Yup, you never sent the message, thus its not in the folter.
You have to actually send it to have it 'copied', the copy
is at send time (you are telling Elm where to put the copy at send time.)
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Datacomp Systems, Inc.                 Projected 3.0 Release: ??? ?,1994
syd@DSI.COM or dsinc!syd      Voice: (215) 947-9900, FAX: (215) 938-0235
From: syd@dsi.com (Syd Weinstein)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: `nroff' copyright symbol macro "\(co" problem
Date: 20 Dec 1992 11:13:48 -0500
Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc., Huntingdon Valley, PA
Reply-To: syd@DSI.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: dsinc.dsi.com

d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart) writes:

>Many of the files in the Elm doc subdirectory include what appears to be
>an `nroff' copyright symbol macro:
>	\(co
>Sadly, our AIX 3.2 `nroff' converts it to the following nonsense:
>	^[8c^[9
>where ^[ is the ESC character.  ^[8 restores the cursor from its previously
>saved position.  ^[9 is not defined.

Right church, wrong pew..... you are using nroff with a 'device table'
entry for a machine that uses ESC 8 for half line up, and ESC 9 for half
line down.  (Not an uncommon nroff table.)   The trick is to learn about
col, the 'reverse line filter'  Take the output of nroff and run it through
col, which will filter those things out and place things on the nearest
appropriate line.

>Do all other `nroff's recognize this macro?  If not, could instances of
>the string "\(co" be replaced with the string "(C) "?
I'll look into replacing the Copyright Symbol with the word Copyright
(sorry (C) is not legally appropriate) in the tmac.n or code in a .ifn
macro.

-- 
========================================================================
Sydney S. Weinstein, CDP, CCP          Elm Coordinator - Current 2.4PL17
Datacomp Systems, Inc.                 Projected 3.0 Release: ??? ?,1994
syd@DSI.COM or dsinc!syd      Voice: (215) 947-9900, FAX: (215) 938-0235
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: paul@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul Pomes - UofIllinois CSO)
Subject: Re: `nroff' copyright symbol macro "\(co" problem
Reply-To: Paul-Pomes@uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 14:46:31 GMT

d-lewart@uiuc.edu (Daniel S. Lewart) writes:

>Many of the files in the Elm doc subdirectory include what appears to be
>an `nroff' copyright symbol macro:
>	\(co
>Sadly, our AIX 3.2 `nroff' converts it to the following nonsense:
>	^[8c^[9
>where ^[ is the ESC character.  ^[8 restores the cursor from its previously
>saved position.  ^[9 is not defined.

^[8 and ^[9 are half-line motions.  Filter them out by piping the nroff output
through col(1).

/pbp
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	--William Pitt (1783)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: kak@hico2.westmark.com (Kris A. Kugel)
Subject: Re: World-readable mailbox?
Summary: other-read bit dominant on sysV.2 sgid elm
Keywords: security, elm 2.4 PL13, sgid, UNIX SysV.2
Reply-To: kak2@hico2.westmark.com
Organization: High Country Software
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:34:44 GMT

Leslie Mikesell (les@chinet.chi.il.us) wrote:
: [trying to set up a mailbox with read access for everybody but 
: edit access only for those "owning" account]

: Les Mikesell
:   les@chinet.chi.il.us

Well, I thought I had something like this working on my Sys V.2 machine,
but I was wrong.  At least with the current [2.4 PL13] version of elm.  

My machine is pretty much limited to a very limited number
of highly trusted users, so I'd played around
with the default mail file permissions for my own convenience:
total 1013
-rw-rw----  1 kak     mail      39156 Dec 12 07:26 kak
-rw-rw-rw-  1 netnews mail       8007 Dec  9 23:18 netnews
-rw-rw-r--  1 root    mail       1318 Dec 12 13:53 root
-rw-rw-rw-  1 uucp    mail      56931 Dec 12 04:00 uucp

Evidently, the permissions on root allow reading AND editing
on my sgid mail elm. 

Well, sounds like I could:
	A. turn off sgid permissions, (probably requiring reconfig/compile)
	B. track down the mailbox writing code, and either
	   encapsulate that with permissions checking code, or
	   switch back to the user's normal gid.   This second
	   won't work on this system, I don't think I can then
	   switch to the egid again.

   Obviously, hand-checking the permissions involves some
   os-specific code, but is probably a useful thing to have.
   (for example, such may allow mail security of some type
   on systems that don't really support it in the filesystem.)

Note: removing the other "r" permissions prevents read access to
this mailbox with my sgid elm.  The following permissions don't work either:

   4 -rw--w-r--  1 root    mail       1629 Dec 12 14:13 /usr/mail/root

[Not that I recommend making root mailbox readable to the world anyway,
but you get the idea.]
I suspect that I need some code or option change to get the security right.
Right now, it looks like the other-read bit controls all access.
Probably, the file-reading and file-writing should be separately
encapsulated for this to work right.

Kris A. Kugel	908-842-2707
hico2!kak	kak@hico2.westmark.com

Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes)
Subject: Re: Back out from the quit (y/n) ?
Originator: guckes@medusa
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:36:13 GMT

qq11@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew) writes:

>Sven Guckes (guckes@math.fu-berlin.de) wrote:
>: Is there a way to back out from the (y/n) question of the quit command ?
>
>: This problem occurs to me from time to time when I accidentally hit
>: 'q' instead of 'a'.
>
>me too.

Here is Syd's answer to my question
"Is there a way to back out from the (y/n) question of the quit command ?"

[Syd]
Its not possible to do this in 2.x, for internal reasons.  Most of which
relate to the fact that Elm doesn't know where whats on the screen to recover.
(Plus by that time, its in the 'close mailbox routine anyway'.)

things like this are going to have to wait for the 3.x rewrite.
Xref: sparky comp.mail.elm:3730 comp.sources.bugs:300
From: rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Martin)
Subject: how to set up a signature
Summary: How do I set up a signature  with elm
Keywords: signature elm help
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:11:29 GMT


I've tried everything but I cna't seem to get a sig file working.  Could
someone please tell me in plain english how this would be accomplished.

Thanks in advance.....

R. Martin


Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: beirne@rtsg.mot.com (Michael G Beirne)
Subject: Re: Back out from the quit (y/n) ?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 02:29:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec9.091824.27043@irfu.se> bt@irfu.se (Bo Thide') writes:
>In article <T6M9O1@math.fu-berlin.de> guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes:
>>Is there a way to back out from the (y/n) question of the quit command ?
>>
>>This problem occurs to me from time to time when I accidentally hit
>>'q' instead of 'a'.
>>
>>BTW, I do like NN's way of backing out from (almost) every command with ^g.
>
>I would like to see this too.  And a way to change the current directory
>from inside elm (cf 'lcd' in ftp).

I would like something like this too. Every once in a while I'll type "s" when
I meant "d" and the only way out without typing a valid name is the
"^\" (QUIT signal).


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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: 2.4 patch 17
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 15:52:46 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.173353.22438@irfu.se> bt@irfu.se (Bo
Thide') writes:

>This patch never made it here.  I also checked comp.sources.bugs only
>to find it was missing there too.  Any reasons why it should be
>dropped en route?

Not that I'm aware of.  But you can get all the patches or the
lastest soiurces with patches installed from, inter alia,
yak.macc.wisc.edu [144.92.30.18], directory pub/elm, files
elm2.4pl17.tar.Z or patch*.

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: dwolfe@oakhill.sps.mot.com (Dave Wolfe)
Subject: Re: How to autoforward?
Cc: anibal@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:22:43 GMT
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas

In <BzB6HK.9KE@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG> anibal@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Anibal Jodorcovsky) writes:

>I am working in a machine and I have another
>account in another machine, I need to autoforward
>my mail from the machine where I am using elm
>to the other one, BUT I want to keep the messages
>in the 'elm' machine, got it? :-)

I think so: you normally receive mail at machine A, but want to also
receive mail on machine B as a different account, but without simply
forwarding the machine A mail.

>The thing is I don't want to set the .forward file
>since this method doesn't keep the mail in the
>original site but rather send it and delete it.

No, you simply don't understand .forward files.

>Is there a way to do this with elm?

No, but you can do it with your .forward file on the machine where the
mail is originally received.  Use something like:

    \anibal, anibal2@machineB

This delivers mail to your account on this machine (note the backslash
to suppress recursive interpretation of the .forward file) as well as
to account anibal2 on machineB.  This is, of course, assuming that your
MTA uses .forward files.

-- 
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 Motorola SPS | Austin, TX  78735-8598     | dwolfe@pets.sps.mot.com
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: bt@irfu.se (Bo Thide')
Subject: Re: Back out from the quit (y/n) ?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 08:05:04 GMT
Organization: Swedish Institute of Space Physics, Uppsala, Sweden

In article <U5T98AL@math.fu-berlin.de> guckes@math.fu-berlin.de (Sven Guckes) writes:
>horst@faui63.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Horst Luehrsen) writes:
>
>>>Every once in a while I'll type "s" when I meant "d"
>>>and the only way out without typing a valid name is the "^\" (QUIT signal).
>>
>>No! Just type <backspace>, then <return>.
>
>A much easier way is this:The command "^u" (control-u).
>This will clear the input line.
>Then type enter - yes, enter an _empty_ line as your answer as to where
>to save the article(s).
>ELM then will not do anything.
>
>Sven :)

This does *not* work in elm2.4 PL13 on the "Quit" line.

If I have answered the Quit question with an "n":

Command: Quit               Move read messages to "received" folder? (y/n) n

I have found no way to change the last "n" to "y".  More important, if I
had typed "y", there is no way I can correct it to "n".  The result is
that messages are moved from /usr/mail to my "received" box and I have
to go to "received" and manually move them back to /usr/mail.  It
happens to me all the time and is very tedious and very annoying.  A
reason why I often type "y" instead of "n" is that if I have marked some
messages for deletion *then* I have to type "y".  This elm inconsistency
is very frustrating.


Bo
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From: syd@dsi.com (Syd Weinstein)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: 'Copy' ignored in 'send-menu' ???
Date: 15 Dec 1992 10:05:26 -0500
Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc., Huntingdon Valley, PA
Reply-To: syd@DSI.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: dsinc.dsi.com
Keywords: Mail lost

root@math.fu-berlin.de (Super-User) writes:
>May be a misanderstanding of the manuals ?
Sounds like it....

>BUT after I hit 'c'
>(when elm asks me to 'S'end ...copy... forget...)
>and I answer with a folder-name
>I COULD NOT FIND THAT MESSAGE anywhere !!!
>(neighter in =* nor where I was `pwd`)

>I use 'forcename=on' and 'copy=ON'
>(so may be 'C'opy in the menu toggles that to off ?)

Did you ever send the message, or just look right then
and there for the copy?

The option sets where Elm will COPY the message when its sent.  NO COPY
is made if the message is 'forgotten' and no copy is made
'immediately'.  It just sets where the copy will be made to on send.
-- 
========================================================================
Sydney S. Weinstein, CDP, CCP          Elm Coordinator - Current 2.4PL17
Datacomp Systems, Inc.                 Projected 3.0 Release: ??? ?,1994
syd@DSI.COM or dsinc!syd      Voice: (215) 947-9900, FAX: (215) 938-0235
From: raeram@kittyhawk.aero.rmit.OZ.AU (Richard A. Muirden)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: 2.4Pl17 forwarding problem
Date: 18 Dec 92 08:16:14 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: kittyhawk.aero.rmit.oz.au

Hi, 2.4PL17 doesn't seem to want to do what I have been doing for years
and was doing with PL13. This is:

If I get a mail bounce or whatever and I realise the mistake and I want
to resend the message, I used to do:

f (forward)
n (do *not* edit text)
to (address)
subject (whatever)
copies to: (whatever)

then instead of (s) for send, I'd (e) for edit, and I'd get the message
I was forwarding, without the ' >' bits inserted (a feature I don't
want to disable). Thus, with a few edits to delete the mail bounce
header, I have my origional message safe and sound. This was quick.

Now, under PL17, when I do this, it inserts the bloody ' > ' in which
is most annoying. Is this a bug or a feature?

-richard

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From: wmark@msw (Mark S. Winsor)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: elm on SCO
Date: 12 Dec 92 14:45:08 GMT
Organization: ProVAR

What is needed to get elm2.4 working on SCO UNIX. I'm using submit as
the mailer, which works fine for local mail, but when I try to send
mail to a remote box, I get an invalid address message. I'm not
convinced the problem is in elm, it could be in the mmdf setup, of which
I know next to nothing. Anybody have any ideas?

Thanks,

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: klr@umbc4.umbc.edu (Kurt Reisler)
Subject: Wishlist item for "next" patch
Organization: Hadron.com in exile
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:41:49 GMT


Obviously this is a LOW priority item.  One of the things that I always
wind up doing on my systems which are running elm is to 1) change the
default_printout string to be "cat %s | mp | lpr -Psmurf" (on the BSD
boxes) and "cat %s | mp | lp -dsmurf" (where smurf is a LPS-20
Postscript networked printer); and 2) prepend a "." to the name of all
of the "temp_*" files (to hide them from the casual /tmp cruisers).
Both of these are done in hdrs/sysdefs.h after completing a Configure
run.  Although it is not a major hassle, it seems like it is something
that could be handled in the Configure script, at some future patch
level.

Meanwhile, thanks for the continued excellent support we all enjoy.

-- 
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		  Captain, UNISIG International Luge Team
		     Only a guest at klr@umbc4.umbc.edu
	     Are creative spellings like a patentable life form?
From: qq11@liverpool.ac.uk (Alan Thew)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: Back out from the quit (y/n) ?
Date: 12 Dec 92 22:45:23 GMT
Organization: The University of Liverpool
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Sven Guckes (guckes@math.fu-berlin.de) wrote:
: Is there a way to back out from the (y/n) question of the quit command ?

: This problem occurs to me from time to time when I accidentally hit
: 'q' instead of 'a'.

me too.
-- 
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From: syd@dsi.com (Syd Weinstein)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: elm 2.4.13 wont compile on Sys V
Date: 17 Dec 1992 18:11:56 -0500
Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc., Huntingdon Valley, PA
Reply-To: syd@DSI.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: dsinc.dsi.com

COOKDL@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (*Darryl Cook         ) writes:
>I cant get elm 2.4.13 to compile on a 3B2-1000 running SysV r3.2.2.

>i get the following undefined symbols

>qstrpbrk                in file addr_util.o
>catgets  
>len_next_part
>MCstrintf                       alias.o
>catopen                         elm.o

When you run into this, try removing all the .o files and recompiling,
this is common when the source directory is shared.  Due to the some
.o files not having include dependencies.
-- 
========================================================================
Sydney S. Weinstein, CDP, CCP          Elm Coordinator - Current 2.4PL17
Datacomp Systems, Inc.                 Projected 3.0 Release: ??? ?,1994
syd@DSI.COM or dsinc!syd      Voice: (215) 947-9900, FAX: (215) 938-0235
From: drwho@pandoras.path.med.ufl.edu (Robert Rainer)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Help with autoreply
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:16:46 GMT
Distribution: US

Hello;

	I am a new ELM user, and I am finally discorering many of its hidden
features.  Since the holidays are approaching, I thought that playing around
with the autoreply feature would be fun.  I am having a problem.  Autoreply
does not want to read my file.  If I understand things correctly, I just need
to give autoreply the name of a file I want to send out.  I do have the 
arepdeamon running.

	Is there a special format for the file to pass to autoreply, and what
permision does it need to have.  Any help would be wonderful, and can you
please reply by E-Mail since I do not follow this group.

thanks--rainer@pandoras-box.path.med.ufl.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: kurt@dna.lth.se (Kurt Swanson)
Subject: "Problems restoring protection" in 2.4.17
Organization: Lund Institute of Technology, Sweden
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:05:06 GMT

Every time I leave elm after reading new messages (only in my incoming
folder), I get the message "Problems restoring protection...".  What's
wrong here?  I have no functionality problems - everything seems to
work fine, but I just get this message...

What's the deal?
-- 
Kurt Swanson, Dept. of Computer Science,
Lunds universitet.  Kurt.Swanson@dna.lth.se
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: root@math.fu-berlin.de (Super-User)
Subject: 'Copy' ignored in 'send-menu' ???
Summary: Lost my letter after doing 'C'opy in send-menu
Keywords: Mail lost
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:50:58 GMT

Hi!
May be a misanderstanding of the manuals ?

BUT after I hit 'c'
(when elm asks me to 'S'end ...copy... forget...)
and I answer with a folder-name
I COULD NOT FIND THAT MESSAGE anywhere !!!
(neighter in =* nor where I was `pwd`)

I use 'forcename=on' and 'copy=ON'
(so may be 'C'opy in the menu toggles that to off ?)

Another User could reproduce that with elm's default setup...

Slightly irritated, Stucki
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm