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From: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM, what's wrong?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:00:37 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
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In article <BzG13A.2sq@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>
>   IBM is a victim of their own success.

   IBM is a victim of their own ignorance and resistance to change. This is the
same company that didn't even WANT to make a personal computer until they saw
how successful the Apple was - they would have been happy selling mainframes
forever and collecting money on service contracts. But what IBM failed to see
coming was the importance of the personal computer, and how the power it
offers would begin to eat away at their mainframe business.

>   IBM is doing some things right, but a company so successful is bound to
>accumulate a big corporate beuracracy.

   Success doesn't always yield bureaucracy; inattention does. Management
needs to keep an eye on their company's efficiency, not only in terms of  
sales and production, but in terms of how well/quickly people can communicate
within the company. Communications can make all the difference in how quickly
a product gets to market, and whether or not the product does what a customer
wants. IBM was never very good at that.

>IBM
>did it with Lexmark, and Lexmark has HP running scared in the very printer
>technologies that HP used to control with a tight grip.

   IBM sold Lexmark flat-out; Lexmark obtained the rights to use IBM's name
on their printers for five years, and then the love affair is over. After that,
Lexmark cannot use the IBM name on their products.

>   IBM is bound to rebound.  The losses that IBM is experiencing can be blamed
>partly on the recession. 

   Sheez. IBM's losses now are due to its own stupidity and failure to adapt
to a changing marketplace. It was too slow, too big, and its products were too
expensive (they still are). The Wall Street Journal ran an article just over a
year ago about the changing perceptions people have about IBM. It used to be 
said that "Nobody ever got fired for buying IBM." In that article, it said that
now, people are getting fired for doing just that.

>   BTW, IBM is well balanced to weather the world-wide recession.  Unlike
>Commodore, IBM did not put all of its eggs in the European basket. 

   50% of IBM's sales come from Europe (I believe that figure is about 57%,
actually, but that's from a year or two ago). Commodore's sales are 87%
European (and we all know why).

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From: henigma@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:The "how to get rid of Irving Gould" Top Ten List
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:07:06 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Dec17.113110.24435@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, nwickham@nyx.cs.du.edu
 (Neal Wickham) writes:
> 
> From the home office in Lower East Chester, Pennsylvania, it's the Top 
> Ten ways to get rid of the source of all our sorrows:  Irving Gould.
> Here we go...
> 
> <drum roll>
> 
> #10 Make him guest of honnor at NewTek LSD party where Niki can slip him
>     hundred hits of Orange Sunshine.
> 
> #9  Get him drunk, depressed, and into game of "Sudden-Death" Computer
>     Trivial Pursuit with Dave Haynie.
> 
> #8  Display him on 1084 monitor and flicker him to death.
> 
> #7  Get him into a "for keeps" dog fight with ex-Amigoid on PC flight
>     simulator.
> 
> #6  Let original Amiga Loraine team use him as a real dart board.
> 
> #5  Send him to Dallas Amiga Users Group costume party dressed as JFK.
> 
> #4  Convince him of need to travel to Tibet, join monastery, and undertake 
>     20 year study of Blazemonger manual.
> 
> #3  Did I mention Kennedy style head shot?
> 
> #2  Send him on over night camping trip with Marc Barret.
> 
> And the number one method of getting rid of Irving Gould once and for all:
> 
>     Send him to Iraq, frame him as American spy, then send Commodore
>     marketing team to negotiate his release.
> 

    ALL this is funny but who is Irving Gould?????  And why should we kill..er
get rid of him???         
                                                         Tony Tage
                                                         Tage@ac.dal.ca


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From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Re: Comdex/Quicktime released for the PC
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:57:54 GMT

Mark 'Mark' Sachs <MBS110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>In article <1992Dec11.074529.19885@utstat.toronto.edu>,
>philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough) says:

>>Quicktime is important. Very.

>Why? I've seen it. It's just an anim player, and a pretty cheesy one at that.
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

  Oh no, not again.  Please, please, please, read some QuickTime
developer's documentation.  QuickTime does far more than just bitblt
moving images to the screen.





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 and that is having no marketing people on a project."  - Larry Tesler.
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From: jerry@msi.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: OS/2 vs Win NT
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:43:48 GMT
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Jason Remillard (remilld@ccu.umanitoba.ca) wrote:
:
: I think Alpha is going to be a major force to be reconned with..  SUN has
: already bought license rights (is that the right word) to use the Alpha
: in their WorkStations and Servers...
:

I think we'll have to see.  We have DEC Alpha machines here, running
OSF/1 (which as far as I can tell, is still severely incomplete).  Although
we haven't yet ported all our software to the Alpha (they screwed up the
machine by making integers and pointers different sizes), it seems only
marginally faster than the Hewlett-Packard PA-RISC, even though it runs
at nearly 3 times the clock rate.

What really bugs me about the Alpha: you should see the sizes of the
executables!  The OSF/1 kernel is almost 6MB!  No wonder our machines
are stuffed with 224MB RAM each!

:
: Jason L.M. Remillard		REMILLARD@ceddwntwn.lan1.umanitoba.ca
:
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| JERRY J. SHEKHEL  | Molecular Simulations Inc. | Time just fades the pages |
| Drummers do it... |     Burlington, MA USA     | in my book of memories.   |
|    ... In rhythm! |        jerry@msi.com       |         -- Guns N' Roses  |
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From: papresco@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: Future Amiga chipsets
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:14:12 GMT

>It's taken 12 years to establish a bus standard which offers reasonable
>performance and you call that innovative? What a dog and pony show.
>
>For 90% of the PC industry, R&D means replicate and duplicate.

It took us 12 years to NEED a bus standard which offered better
performance then MCA or EISA (both of which are respectable
performers).

When we moved to a graphical system, we needed it.  When we needed it,
we got it.  When we wanted pure processor power, we got it.  Now we
want sound, and we are getting it.

People here keep whining about the applications they want, but can't
get (astronomy, typesetting, taxes) on the Amiga.  When are you going
to get THOSE?
 

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From: tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran)
Subject: Re: World of Commodore Toronto
Organization: Brock University, St. Catharines Ontario
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:54:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.185715.17127@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu
(Skip Sauls) writes:

[Re: VM/MP]

>And that is perfectly fine by me.  While virtual memory might indeed be 
>useful for some applications, I personally find most VM implementations
>to be too slow for my liking.

My sentiments as well. For those who wish to use virtual memory immediately,
GigaMem offers an economical alternative. One could argue that memory
protection would lead to greater stability of applications, but utilities
like Enforcer and Mungwall are keeping developers on their toes.

>RTG is certainly worth having and will hopefully get here while AGA is still
>competitive.

This raises another issue: if RTG is incorporated into 4.0, will the OS
release predate the new chipsets? In many respects, RTG would be quite
useful now.

>I want to know more about the DSP support and would like to
>know what applications will benefit.  While the prospect of better sound is
>attractive, I hope that the DSP will be useful for other applications.

The original A3000+ prototype apparently included the same AT&T DSP, so it
would seem likely that developers have been anticipating its release. Aside
from 16-bit sound, other possibilities include high-speed modems, voice
recognition and coprocessing for graphics. Incidentally, there is a good
overview in a recent issue of Byte.

I'd also like to know what a ballpark price would be for one of these cards.

>Networking has been possible with Amigas for some time now and I myself have
>been using the A2065 Ethernet board with AS225 software for over a year.  It
>is fine for my use, but it is not as polished as it should be and there are
>several features missing.  I understand that the new software is going to
>be a big improvement and I eagerly await its release.

Hopefully the TCP/IP software will be bundled as part of 3.1. Resource
sharing will certainly be of benefit to anyone using multiple machines.
BTW, Eggebrecht mentioned is his talk that the Ethernet board is being
redesigned for increased performance. From your comments in the past, it
would seem that this would make the card a killer.

A final aside: Soft-Logik is currently developing a network version of its
HotLinks software. The acronym for the e-mail package is SPAM! :).

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From: jepaul@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Darth Jason)
Subject: 16 color icons
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 05:09:39 GMT


Can someone point out where I can get some 16 color icons?  Thanks!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:47:03 EST
From: <SML108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why my Amiga is gone
 <Bz14nK.728@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
 <1992Dec10.083238.5639@utstat.toronto.edu>

In article <1992Dec10.083238.5639@utstat.toronto.edu>, philip@utstat.toronto.edu
(Philip McDunnough) says:
>I'd like to make one thing clear and be very  blunt about it. Word on either
>the PC, Windows PC, Mac, or WordPerfect (with its equation editor) are
>virtuallyuseless for technical typing. I mean useless. You won't find one
>serious
>science department on earth that uses them.

Hmmm....  Tell that to the chem department here that has put out over 200
papers using Word.  Far from me to defend Bill SATAN LIVES Gates, but frankly,
you're full of it...

Scott
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From: nwickham@nyx.cs.du.edu (Neal Wickham)
Subject: Re: World of Commodore Toronto
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Reply-To: nwickham@nyx.UUCP (Neal Wickham)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 03:52:02 GMT



>And that is perfectly fine by me.  While virtual memory might indeed be 
>useful for some applications, I personally find most VM implementations
>to be too slow for my liking.  I realize that others disagree, but the only
>machines with VM which are fast enough for me are those with enough main
>memory so that VM is rarely if ever used.


My computer salesman friend would agree that VM is not what it is cracked
up to be.  And ram prices keep falling.  If you really want to run a big
program, just buy the ram for it.


>Networking has been possible with Amigas for some time now and I myself have
>been using the A2065 Ethernet board with AS225 software for over a year.  It
>is fine for my use, but it is not as polished as it should be and there are
>several features missing.  I understand that the new software is going to
>be a big improvement and I eagerly await its release.


I think networking is going to be important for multimedia purposes.  That
is what Apple seems to think anyway.  The word is that QuickTime will have
most of its applications on a network where "movies" can be kept on big
HDs or some other device at the server and be accesses by people on the
network for tutorials, training, presentations, etc.    


                                    NCW
From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Screenshots: Results:
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:09:38 GMT
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana

In article <BzExLM.vz@news.udel.edu> don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd) writes:
>das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>>
>>Can the WorkBemch gurus out there try to comment on the really whiz-bang
>>aspect to custmization of the workbench?
>
>     One two-word comment:      Commodities Exchange.

Now, would you please explain to me what this means?

>>Also, you hires WorkBench people have GOT to get some decent icons!!  Man,
>>lots of Skip's icons looked all flattened-out like!
>
>     Yeah, there are a lot of ugly ones out there; lots were left over from
>the 1.3 days.  It also seems like some software developers have some kind
>of fetish for shipping their products with 250x180 icons, which get replaced
>almost instantaneously on my system by normal-sized ones.

250X180??  Is that like, the PIXEL DIMENSIONS?!  Ho ho ho, that's a 
good one.

>     Does OS/2 2.0 allow icons of different sizes, or is it limited to something
>like 32x32 (which I believe is the legal icon size in Win3.1)?  The huge icons
>are an annoying drawback to this particular bit of flexibility, but I like
>being able to vary the dimensions of icons a little.

Yes.

>>One think I wish there was more of is OS/2 is more active icons.  With the AMmiga,
>>I understand that when you activate the icon, it might DO something.  In
>>OS/2, all you get is a hash marking behind it to let you know it is active.
>>Like, I think I rememebr a friend showing to me on his A500 how a fish icon
>>(a really big cartoony icon) closes its mouth when you click on it.
>
>     In addition to this, there's a PD program called ToolManager that lets you
>create a 'dock' and/or a series of AppIcons(as explained earlier in this
>thread, I think) whose inactive icon is the first frame of an animation.
>When something is dragged onto the icon or it gets double-clicked (or 
>clicked in the case of the dock), the rest of the anim plays.  Not overly
>useful, but there for those who want it.

I'd like it.

>     I also run a PD program called ARQ which inserts little animations into
>system requesters.  For instance, when I try to delete files from the WB,
>I get a requester that asks "are you sure", tells me how many files and 
>directories I'm about to delete, and shows a little anim of the earth
>being sucked up into a black hole.  Sounds can also be attached to these
>requesters.

That's neat.  And in addition to having a virtually total standard
of 3.5" floppy disk sizes, I consider this sort of thing the second
Amiga Advantage I've run across.

>Don Lloyd                / "No, I just think that a computer grafted on top of \
>don@chopin.udel.edu      | another computer is a kludge.  It has nothing to do |
-- 
Dan Stephenson                                         das9674@usl.edu  
"Yes Dan, I have heard of Ultima Underworld.  From my point of view it
 appears to be a rather large stick which you seem to be using to beat
 everbody in this group with." -Mark Steyn
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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re: Dan uploaded some OS/2 screen shots:
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 17:13:36 GMT

In article <1510@cbmnl.nl.so.commodore.com> heuvdp@cbmnl.nl.so.commodore.com (Paul Heu vd Netherlands) writes:
>das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>> 
>> Could you guys just make GIFs out of your desktops???
>
>Sure.. but why?? do you have any trouble with IFF?? :^)

Nope, I do not wish to see any more of those desktops.  I have seen enough
to comment on still looks, but not 'functionality' (although I think good
looks *help* funcionality, not that I am saying the Amiga WB2 looks SO god-awful
).

The WorkBench 2 seems to mostly suffer from  1) horrible icons (usually those
flat squished ones) and 2) Antiquated window resizing gadget.  Beyond that,
it is mostly subjective, like my preference of OS/2's scrollbars,etc.

>-- 
>     //        Whatever I write here are my personal opinions..
>   \X/         E-mail : heuvdp@cbmnl.nl.so.commodore.com                  
>
>            LIVE from the Mothership, the StarChild is here...


-- 
Dan Stephenson                                         das9674@usl.edu  
"Yes Dan, I have heard of Ultima Underworld.  From my point of view it
 appears to be a rather large stick which you seem to be using to beat
 everbody in this group with." -Mark Steyn, comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
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From: adamkp@aix.rpi.edu (Peter Adamkovics)
Subject: Stuck in Another World II/Flashback
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:05:29 GMT

I got pretty far in this awesome game.... but now I'm stuck in a room
on earth.  It's a bar called paradise, and I need a key for a door.  There
is a key in the bar, but its on the second level and there's no way to 
get up there.  Am I supposed to keep a key from previous levels?  i 
don't think this is th e case, becuase after i leave the planet titan, 
i only keep the p[ower ring, my gun, and id card.  By the way, i sp[ent 
aboiut 30 minutes tryting to get into this bar, because you have to make
2 leaping grabs, and if you miss, then you fall and die, good thing
the save game thingy is right there......   
so if any of you got this far, e-mail me please..... thanks.


-pete-

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From: clueless@bradley.edu (Mark Kristie)
Subject: Re: Tandy (Was: Re: Educational Software/CDTV)
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:39:02 GMT
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Tom R Krotchko (TomK@cup.portal.com) wrote:
: >>>Tandy is EVERYWHERE.
: >>
: >>Please add: ONLY in USA.

: Today I was looking at the VIS machine at a Radio Shack (Tandy) store.
: Here's an honest to god conversation:

: Me: Pretty neat. What kind of processor does it have?

: Salesman: Oh it doesn't need one. Its not a computer.

: Hasn't Commodore been down this same path?  I have to admit though,
: since it uses Modular Windows, it looks to have a better chance
: at success than the other two offerings.

A processor?  From Radio Shack?  nonononononono....  I believe it utilizes a
unique system involving a hamster and a wheel....

: TomK@cup.portal.com
: Tom Krotchko
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From: das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A)
Subject: Re:  guns
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:22:29 GMT

In article <70750,443-091292102338@3.10.7.22> 70750,443@cis.com (Spike) writes:
>In article <1992Dec7.025656.15920@tree.SAC.CA.US>, turk@tree.SAC.CA.US (Rob
>Turk (1-1-90)) wrote:
>
>> The reality is _most_ of those people obtained their weapons illegally.
>> Criminals, by definition, do not follow the law.  The crime rates in our
>> cities with the toughest gun laws [restrictions to bans] have the highest
>> crime rates.  Violent crime rates.  A person should not be a vigilante.
>> They should, if possible, use the gun for protection while waiting for the
>> police.  During floods, earthquakes, and more, that response time can be
>> catastrophic.  Sometimes they can not respond.  Give yourself the ability to
>> protect yourself IF YOU HAVE TO.
>
>>   Robert M. Turk                           turk@tree.sac.ca.usa  
>
>Okay, but how do you explain the fact that countries like Britain where
>it is illegal for private citizens to own handguns experience lower 
>violent crime rates and *far* fewer accidental shooting deaths each
>year?

A different ethos, perhaps.

>Spike
-- 
Dan Stephenson                                                 das9674@usl.edu  
"There once was a Lady from Hyde/who ate some bad apples and died/but while we
lamented/the apples fermented/making cider inside her inside!" 
                        -Member of the Court, Texas Renaissance Festival
From: rross@axelon.UUCP (Raymond Ross)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  Falcon '030 BUS: 16 or 32 bit?
Date: 10 Dec 92 06:52:36 GMT
Organization: Superboard Two BBS


   Yeah, your harp about "HAM sucking" is way off beat-- obviously you use an
IBM or a MAC.  I've noticed that even with fringing, a HAM picture looks great
because this 3-pixel change to another color produces an acceptable range that
fools the eye.  Granted you don't get pixel-for-pixel accuracy, but think about
it-- on the ECS and lower Amiga's you can achieve 12-bit images for the price
of only 6 bits (on a low-resultion 320x200 picture, a true 12-bit picture would
consume 320x200 / 8 * 12 = 96,000 bytes but in HAM you can get remarkably
similar results and consume only 48,000 bytes.  If that sucks then the whole
concept behind efficient, effective, and smart computing has just been shot to
Hell by your statement since obviously you've never tried an Amiga.

   Sorry if I sounded a bit rude about this (usually I am quite understanding
when it comes to people's ignorance of quality computer systems) but it's
finally happening-- I'm getting sick and tired of people writing the Amiga off
as some crazy hack when, for the past three years of my life, I have not only
operated an Amiga, but I've operated a business that would otherwise not 
survive without this machine and here I am, defending it.

   Perhaps you should, for the very first time, let go of your unfounded
inhibitions and try out an Amiga :)
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From: papresco@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: IBM, what's wrong?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:39:16 GMT

>   IBM sold Lexmark flat-out; Lexmark obtained the rights to use IBM's name
>on their printers for five years, and then the love affair is over. After that,
>Lexmark cannot use the IBM name on their products.

My understanding is that Lexmark is a wholly owned subsidiary.  If it
was sold "flat out." sold to whom?  I can't imagine IBM would "flat
out" sell it's source for printers and keybaords.

>Gregg Giles (Dynamix, Inc.)                     Willy Beamish Development Team 
>All opinions expressed are my own.     (MS-DOS CD-ROM, Sega-CD), Space Quest V
>ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu, BIX: ggiles                 Author of DiskInfo, ZSound

Is there a Willy Beamish for the Amiga?


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