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From: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Usenet to Fax gateway
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:42:06 +1200
Reply-To: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz
Organization: Equinox Networks, ChCh, New Zealand * Private Node: Yonder
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992

In <DR7DPB1w164w@status.gen.nz>, Jon Clarke writes:

> I am will be able to except email to an user id of say 
> out@fax.status.gen.nz  which will send an ascii message to any
> phone number in the auckland free call area. 
>
> You would for instance send mail to the above id with the phone
> number of say 358-5543 in the first line of the body of the email
> and then on the next line include the message you want sent ...etc

Great idea!

So when are you gonna start the service the other way around as well? :-)


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From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Fair trials and racism.
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:34:40 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <BtvKoA.2Mt@comp.vuw.ac.nz> by Mark.Penney@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Chopper Boy! ( Mark Penney )):

>     Maybe you also think that television and newspapers should stop
> doing international stories!

    Remember that they report the NEWS. They're supposed to do that.
    Your article was not "news", it sounded like you blowing off steam
    at something by posting -ve opinions. Don't you think that's a bit
    petty?

> Mark.
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***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: mark@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mark Davies)
Subject: Re: New site added to the DNS
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:22:10 GMT


In article <199208252304.AA29198@st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz>, newznet@comp.vuw.ac.nz (NewZnet Support Group) writes:
|> The following organization is being added to the DNS and will be
|> accessible for email from other connected sites in NZ and elsewhere:

|> 	Ministry of Housing, Wellington

|> The domain name will be:
|> 	minhousing.govt.nz

Note: this replaces the existing site "hcnz.govt.nz" as the Housing Corp
no longer exists.

cheers
mark
From: swebber@imladris.equinox.gen.nz (Stephen Webber)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Phone rental
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:00:20 +1200
Organization: Amiga Christchurch Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

dgk@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>In article <H.RghmGTHDuDM@yonder.equinox.gen.nz>, craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore) writes:
>>
>>  How much was/is now the monthly rental for a standard pert phone?
>
>I didn't know you could still rent the pert phone.....I thought Telecom
>now rent the statesman as the standard (base) phone!!!!

I doubt this very much as the Stateman has been out of production for
sometime, there was however a phone that looked similar for a while but it
is _not_ a Statesman.

This of course is my opinion and not the opinion of my employer.

--
Stephen Webber swebber@imladris.equinox.gen.nz
Christchurch, NEW ZEALAND
Don't worry about tomorrow, I've been there!
From: rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: The santa project
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 92 10:09:50 GMT
Organization: City Net -  Wellington City Council's Community Computer Network

10:09:21
24-Aug-1992

Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 00:10
From: arogers@bonita.cerf.fred.ORG (ROGERS, AL)
Subject: The Santa Letters


Please print and distribute this call for collaboration to teachers
you know who may be interested in participating.
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Project Name:  The SANTA LETTERS                   (c) August 16, 1992
               By Dennis Cowick                    FrEdMail Foundation
               a favorite annual FrEdMail project since 1984.

Date:          November 13, 1992 to December 9, 1992

Purpose:       Improve writing skills in primary and upper grade
               students, and produce many student-authored papers for
               reading.

Subjects:      Language arts

Grade level:   Students in grades K-1 or 2 write letters to "Santa."
               Students in grades 7-12 reply as "Santa."

Summary:       This letter exchange, pairing classes of elementary
               students with Jr/Sr High students is one of the oldest
               and most successful telecomputing projects. Best of
               all, it is simple:
               1) Primary students write letters to Santa using a word
               processor.
               2) Secondary students write back, pretending to be
               Santa.
               3) The letters are exchanged as electronic mail

Number of participants: Unlimited

PROJECT COORDINATOR:
               Dennis Cowick
               Mark Twain Junior-Senior High School
               San Diego Unified School District
               San Diego, California
               619-276-5924
               Email Address:   dcowick@sdcoe.cerf fred.org
                                santa@bonita.cerf.fred.org


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rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
From: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Phone rental
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:40:32 +1200
Reply-To: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz
Organization: Equinox Networks, ChCh, New Zealand * Private Node: Yonder
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.00 Rev. Jan 16 1992

In <7RoiPB1w164w@naos.actrix.gen.nz>, Ewen McNeill writes:

>That, also, is a very good idea.  As you mentioned the Warehouse phones
>(if they are still selling them) pay for themselves quickly.  IMHO, it'd
>be closer to 6 months savings - I paid about $20 from memory.  The phone
>I got was an ex-rental Pert Mark I.  It works fine.

It was $17 down here in Christchurch... /6 = $2.83 per month.

 How much was/is now the monthly rental for a standard pert phone?

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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond)
Subject: Re: Fair trials and racism.
Organization: Distributed Systems Group, Comp Sci, Victoria University of Wellington
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 22:28:20 GMT

In article <jbickers.0ebu@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
>Quoted from <BtuE48.Doy@comp.vuw.ac.nz> by Mark.Penney@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Chopper Boy! ( Mark Penney )):
>
>>     Yeah right!  This is just another chapter in the white racist book of
>> events in LA, whose first chapter was the beating of Rodney King by members
>
>    All right! We should declare war on those losers!!!
>
>    Seriously, why the hell did you post this here?!? It's not our
>    problem.

Just like Somalia isn't our problem, Yugoslavia isn't our problem,
Chinese labour camps aren't our problem, the Treaty of Waitangi isn't
our problem, people getting attacked with hammers in Pauatahanui (sp?)
isn't our problem, domestic violence next door isn't our problem, me
bashing my kids isn't our problem, ...

andy
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From: rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
Newsgroups: nz.general,wgtn.chat
Subject: Road Closure
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 21:31:15 GMT
Organization: City Net -  Wellington City Council's Community Computer Network

21:30:59
26-Aug-1992

Harris Street will be closed to through traffic between 10am and 4.30pm Sunday 
18 October, 1992 to enable Wellington Emergency Services to present static 
displays in conjunction with activities in Frank Kitts Park area.



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rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
From: Pat Cain <patrick@sideways.welly.gen.nz>
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Local call charging announcement on Thursday?
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:35:50 GMT
Organization: Sideways Bulletin Board, Lower Hutt, New Zealand

vdodd@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (vaughan dodd) in <gq2aqB4w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz> writes:
> sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
> > It is being trialed in Kapiti,
> Presumably the trial is technically invalid, because of the Richard
> Prebble clause - that's the one which prevents Telecom introducing call 
> charging in free calling areas.

I don't think that applies in the Kapiti case, it's a toll call between
Kapiti and Wellington.  Each Kapiti subscriber is given the option of
paying an extra few dollars on their phone bill each month, or staying
with the current system (i.e., each call is a toll call).  Most people
have chosen to pay extra each month.

Also, the elderly local call charging option is valid because they are
given the option of the current system or local call charging.

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From: rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
Newsgroups: nz.general,wgtn.chat
Subject: WCC Council Meetings
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 21:37:24 GMT
Organization: City Net -  Wellington City Council's Community Computer Network

21:36:30
26-Aug-1992

                WELLINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETINGS

    Council welcomes your attendance at its Standing Committee
    and Full Council meetings.  There is also an opportunity for
    you to speak (for up to five minutes) in the first 15 minutes
    of Council and first 30 minutes of Committee Meetings.
    Speakers are required to record their interest and speaking
    is limited to items appearing on the Order Papers for Council
    and items relevant to the specific Standing Committee.  To
    book your five minutes for Standing Committee and Full
    Council meetings phone 801 3481 by 4.00pm on the day prior to
    the meeting.

Order Papers for meetings are available two days prior 
at:
- Central and Suburban Libraries
- Newtown Service Centre
- Tawa District Office
- City Information Office, Ground floor, Civic 
  Administration Building (C.A.B.)
- Corporate Services Reception, level 4, C.A.B.

                  COMMITTEE MEETINGS
 
Housing & Community Development:  Fri  28 Aug  9.00am
City Promotion & Development:	  Mon  31 Aug  9.00am
Cityworks:			  Tues 1 Sep   9.00am
Culture & Recreation:		  Wed  2 Sep   9.00am
Environment:			  Thur 3 Sep   9.00am
Finance & Corporate Management:	  Fri  4 Sep   9.00am

Above meetings will be held in Committee Room 1,
Level 3, C.A.B. 101 Wakefield Street, Wellington

Maori Committee which was to have been held on Thursday 
27 August has been cancelled until further notice.
     
                   COUNCIL MEETINGS

Council				  Wed 9 Sep    7.30pm
Council				  Fri 11 Sep   2.00pm

Held in the Council Chamber, Town Hall, 101 Wakefield 
Street



                    OTHER MEETINGS

Tawa Community Board
(Board Room, Tawa District
 Council Office)		  Thur 10 Sep  7.30pm
     				  	       
Tawa Community Board
(Board Room, Tawa District
 Council Office)		  Wed 23 Sep   7.30pm


Makara/Ohariu Community Board
(Ohariu Hall)			  Thur 17 Sep  7.30pm

Audit Committee met on Tuesday 25 August at 9.00am in Committee Room No 1, 3rd 
floor C.A.B. 101 Wakefield Street.

Angela Griffin
Chief Executive



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rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
From: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Phone rental
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 16:49:10 +1200
Reply-To: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz
Organization: Equinox Networks, ChCh, New Zealand * Private Node: Yonder
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992

In <1992Aug24.121616.10315@waikato.ac.nz>, dgk@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>In article <H.RghmGTHDuDM@yonder.equinox.gen.nz>, craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore) writes:
>> 
>>  How much was/is now the monthly rental for a standard pert phone?
>
>I didn't know you could still rent the pert phone.....I thought Telecom
>now rent the statesman as the standard (base) phone!!!!

What about all the people that already have them.. telecom don't change
 rental phones over unless you ask do they?  Anyway, the base phone
 price was all I was interested in.

BTW: Someone said about the maintainance fee... isn't that also optional,
 if you don't have it, and there's a fault between that point where the
 wiring goes from telecoms side of things to your house side of things
 (can't remember their name for it!) then you'll get the repair bill?
That's what I thought anyway, dunno if it's correct or not.


 Craig.

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* Christchurch, New Zealand     | SLNET: 250:700/1266 FIDONET: 3:770/180 *
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: thetroll@rata.vuw.ac.nz (The Troll)
Subject: Postings and Politeness
Organization: Computing Serv. Ctr, Victoria Uni., Wellington, New Zealand
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 10:00:16 GMT

I assume that people posting here want others to read their messages, or
am I being naive? If that is the case, then it bears repeating two simple
rules that will help you get your message across.

1.	Quote as little as possible. People who have been following the
	discussion will understand the context. Use the editor. I have a
	policy of ignoring nay article that starts with a page of
	quoting.If you want to get your message across to me, then
	starting out with a page of quotes is not the way to do it. I am
	especially alarmed to note that Bill Bennett is particularly bad
	at this. I had assume that journalists were trained to
	communicate. I guess there aren't any editors on USENET. 

2.	If you must quote, don't quote things like signatures, we can find
	out who wrote what by reading the "in article blah so and so said"
	line at the begining of the posting.

Of course, this ignores the real aim of posting to usenet, merely to see
your words on the screen, who cares if anyone else sees them! Some of us
read at 2400 baud, please think of us and take time to trim your posting. 


--
Alex Heatley                                Computing Services Centre
Domain: Alex.Heatley@vuw.ac.nz              Victoria University of Wellington
"'Ho, Diomed, well met! Do you sup with Glaucus tonight?' said a young
man of small stature, who wore his tunic in those loose and effeminate
folds which proved him to be a gentleman and a coxcomb."
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Fair trials and racism.
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:23:36 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <BtvD39.G5p@comp.vuw.ac.nz> by andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond):
> In article <jbickers.0ebu@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:

> >    Seriously, why the hell did you post this here?!? It's not our
> >    problem.

> Just like Somalia isn't our problem, Yugoslavia isn't our problem,
> Chinese labour camps aren't our problem, the Treaty of Waitangi isn't
> our problem, people getting attacked with hammers in Pauatahanui (sp?)
> isn't our problem, domestic violence next door isn't our problem, me
> bashing my kids isn't our problem, ...

    Somalia, Yugoslavia and China _aren't_ our problem. Things
    internal to NZ are. Personally, I'd LIKE to see NZ in a position
    to push its views on life and the universe on other countries, but
    at this time I'd be happy just to see internal problems get fixed.

    Perhaps instead of posting crap here, the original poster could
    spend their time more productively by writing supportive letters
    to the people in the US that he's concerned about?

> andy
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Newsgroups: nz.general
From: Mark.Penney@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Chopper Boy! ( Mark Penney ))
Subject: Re: Fair trials and racism.
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., Victoria Uni. of Wellington, New Zealand.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 01:12:10 GMT


In article <jbickers.0ebu@templar.actrix.gen.nz>, jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
|> 
|>     All right! We should declare war on those losers!!!
|> 
|>     Seriously, why the hell did you post this here?!? It's not our
|>     problem.

    Well if you don't think that violence and racisim in the world
is something that we here in New Zealand should be concerned about
then I'm soooooorrrry!  Race related issues such as those going on
in the US *are* of interest to New Zealanders, because there are
problems (to a much lesser degree) with race relations here in New
Zealand.

    Maybe you also think that television and newspapers should stop
doing international stories!

Mark.

PS: thankyou Andy, couldn't have said it better!
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re: Fair trials and racism.
Date: 1 Sep 92 08:58:40 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <BtuE48.Doy@comp.vuw.ac.nz> by Mark.Penney@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Chopper Boy! ( Mark Penney )):

>     Yeah right!  This is just another chapter in the white racist book of
> events in LA, whose first chapter was the beating of Rodney King by members

    All right! We should declare war on those losers!!!

    Seriously, why the hell did you post this here?!? It's not our
    problem.

> Mark.
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***    "Radioactivity - It's in the air, for you and me" - Kraftwerk    ***
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: Re:  Atari STFM for sale
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 07:09:57 GMT
Organization: Z*NET Fax Gateway For Fax in the Auckland Free call Area

lesley@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz (Lesley Walker) writes:

> 
> Better still, why not rename nz.wanted to nz.buy-sell?
> 
> 
 
 Well said I second that.

                                                  _
 Jon Clarke                                     o( )       
 jonc@status.gen.nz                            /  /\        GE: J.CLARKE6
 The Z*NET Global News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand      HSBC NZM  EBD
From: rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
Newsgroups: nz.general
Subject: IRC Chat meeting for KIDLINK
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 22:07:07 GMT
Organization: City Net -  Wellington City Council's Community Computer Network

22:05:47
31-Aug-1992

    On Saturday Morning, I joined a group of people involved in
    KIDLINK, for an Internet Chat. This was a real-time keyboard
    chat linking,

    Claus Berg, Zealand, Denmark <----- NZers note this one !!
    Mark Hunnibell, Connecticutt, USA
    Dan Wheeler, Cincinatti, USA
    Bob Kelly, Iowa, USA
    Delwynne Peterson, Melbourne, Australia
    Rich and Jeremy (9) Naylor, Wellington, New Zealand
    and some unidentified person with a handle of 'moofster'

    Some of the folks who were chatting decided to meet again for
    a supervised chat with some kids next Monday PM (USA)/Tuesday
    AM (Oz).  The time is set for 0000 GMT (midnight monday)
    which works out to 8pm EDT and I think 10am Oz time, with 12n
    NZ time.  Dan Wheeler, Delwynne P., Rich Naylor, and Mark H
    will likely be on for an hour or two of chat with kids and
    others are welcome.

    If you don't make it then, be sure and try to make it next
    saturday at the same time, same channel (2100 GMT, channel
    #kidlink).

If you want more details on KIDLINK or IRC chat please email me.

If you have IRC available, join us Tuesday at 12 noon on Channel
#kidlink.


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rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor ) 
Xref: sparky nz.general:1160 wgtn.chat:181
From: rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor )
Newsgroups: nz.general,wgtn.chat
Subject: Public Notice - Reserves Act
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 21:32:27 GMT
Organization: City Net -  Wellington City Council's Community Computer Network

21:31:56
26-Aug-1992

                WELLINGTON CITY COUNCIL

                   RESERVES ACT 1977

 NOTIFICATION OF APPLICATIONS FOR RESERVES ACT CONSENT

Details of the applications below may be examined at 
the office of the Wellington City Council, Resource 
Management Services Enquiry Counter, 2nd Floor, Civic 
Administration Building, Wakefield Street during normal 
office hours.

Submissions must be made in writing and must be 
addressed to the General Manager, Environment Division 
(c/- Reception, 2nd Floor, Civic Administration 
Building, Wakefield Street, PO Box 2199, Wellington) to 
reach him not later than 4 pm on Monday, 28 September 
1992.  Those who wish to make submissions may ask for 
a reasonable opportunity to be heard in support of 
their submissions.

LEASE OF LAND TO MARANUI SURF CLUB, LYALL BAY PARADE

The proposal is to grant, to the Maranui Surf Club, 
a 10 year lease for land on the Lyall Bay foreshore, 
upon which the existing Surf Club building is sited, 
just south of the Freyberg Street intersection with 
Lyall Bay Parade.  The legal description of the land is 
Pt. Sec 8 Evans Bay District and Pt. Secs 13, 14 and 15 
Watts Peninsular District.  The lease is proposed to be 
granted in terms of Section 54(1)(b) of the Reserves 
Act 1977.  The land is held by Council in fee simple, 
but nevertheless administered as if it was a 
"recreation reserve" in terms of the Reserves Act 1977.

LEASE OF LAND TO MARIST-ST PAT'S RUGBY FOOTBALL CLUB, 
HATAITAI PARK

The proposal is to issue a fresh lease, subject to 
Section 54 of the Reserves Act 1977, of the Marist-St 
Pat's Rugby Football Clubrooms.

The lease will be for a 10 year period with annual 
rental reviews.  The lessee will be responsible for 
maintenance of the interior and exterior of the 
clubroom building and the entranceway to the club.

The land is Lot 1 DP 33683 (607m2), shown on CT 
20B/500.  The land is part of Town Belt, administered 
by Council as a recreation reserve subject to the 
Reserves Act 1977.


A A Aburn
GENERAL MANAGER
ENVIRONMENT DIVISION



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rich@tosh.wcc.govt.nz (Richard Naylor ) 
Newsgroups: nz.general
From: andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond)
Subject: Re: Fair trials and racism.
Organization: Distributed Systems Group, Comp Sci, Victoria University of Wellington
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 05:53:46 GMT

In article <jbickers.0ecl@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
>Quoted from <BtvD39.G5p@comp.vuw.ac.nz> by andy@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Bond):
>> In article <jbickers.0ebu@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
>
>> >    Seriously, why the hell did you post this here?!? It's not our
>> >    problem.
>
>> Just like Somalia isn't our problem, Yugoslavia isn't our problem,
>> Chinese labour camps aren't our problem, the Treaty of Waitangi isn't
>> our problem, people getting attacked with hammers in Pauatahanui (sp?)
>> isn't our problem, domestic violence next door isn't our problem, me
>> bashing my kids isn't our problem, ...
>
>    Somalia, Yugoslavia and China _aren't_ our problem. Things
>    internal to NZ are. 

Who is "our"?  If it includes me then these are our problems.  I have
a problem with starvation in Somalia.  I have a problem with ethnic
cleansing in Yugoslavia.  Maybe I would have had a problem with Nazi
Germany invading Poland before WWII and maybe you wouldn't have
bothered with things that weren't internal to NZ ...

>    Perhaps instead of posting crap here, the original poster could
>    spend their time more productively by writing supportive letters
>    to the people in the US that he's concerned about?

It wasn't crap.  Not everyone reads the appropriate
newsgroups/newspapers to be aware of some things happening around the
world.  Mark pointed something out that is relevant to NZ.  NZ has
racial tensions.  The US of A has racial tensions.  I thought it was
relevant.

andy
Newsgroups: nz.general