From: s8923098@macnab.mqcs.mq.oz.au (Josef WIDJAJA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean,soc.culture.asian.american,soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: China/Chua, KhengHwa/Re: An open letter to Emperor Akihito of Japan
Date: 22 Aug 92 07:01:47 GMT
Organization: Macquarie University, School of Mathematics, Physics, Computing and Electronics

In article <1992Aug20.211923.10986@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
|In article <1992Aug20.184250.24390@leland.Stanford.EDU>
|chuakh@leland.Stanford.EDU (Khenghwa Chua) writes:

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|
|Japan did "acknowledge her role".  Just read the translated text of
|the emperor's speech to the president of S. Korea.  Also read
|the text of the speech to the SE Asian countries.

Also read Japan's official school textbooks on the subject of History.
How much does it say about WWII and Japan's role in it? I heard that 
some liberal schoolteachers demand a text that has more truths than the
sanitised version provided by the Japanese Ministry of Education,
but until now the schoolchildren in Japan do not know much about
WWII other than the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki. That will
make them think Japan is the innocent victim of WWII. 
Try to compare that with Germany.
 
|
|What Mr. Lor, the Chinese-cu, was b*tching about is that he
|wants Japan to acknowledge specific circumstances and details
|pertaining to the war.  Well.  In the interest of fairness,
|why haven't the Chinese-cu made the same demands on China
|and other predominantly Chinese-ge nations?  The Chinese have
|committed countless atrocities, killing more than 100 million
|people in this century alone.

They have. Heard about the demonstrations in Tiananmen Square
and other similar demonstrations around the world by the Chinese
outside China, especially in Hongkong in 1989?

In the interest of fairness also, Chinese might have killed millions
of people, but _most_ of them were Chinese; and they have not, in
the history of mankind, ever invaded a Japanese city, slaughtered
its inhabitants and raped the women and killed the babies. Japan
did exactly that in WWII towards Chinese not only in China, but 
in Southeast asian countries as well. 

In West Borneo, Chinese
community leaders, teachers and influential and educated Chinese 
were rounded up, their heads were chopped off by Japanese soldiers
and their bodies were thrown into a mass grave that the victims
had to dig themselves. One of those people who died was my 
grandfather. What Japan did was an act of genocide. They were
just as bad as the Germans. They had a grand plan to create a
new Japan in West Borneo, that's why they had to destroy any
trace of Chinese culture in that part of Southeast Asia. The
schoolchildren would be taught about Japanese culture and 
Japanese language and they would grow up as Japanese ensuring
future supplies of Japanese soldiers. The Japanese obviously
hated Chinese because Malays and other natives were left alone
while they were busy chopping off Chinese heads. Unfortunately,
they could not carry out their grand plan to completion because 
a few months later Japan surrendered to the Allied Forces. The 
only reason the Japanese got away with their war crimes was US's 
reluctance to kick them in the butts after WWII was won.

We all can forgive, but we should not forget. Is it too much
to ask Japan to acknowledge that many Chinese died as a direct
result of their attrocities? And to tell Japanese children
the truth and nothing but the truth about what they did in
WWII? I do not hold personal grudge against Japanese. I have made
friends with a number of Japanese. 

|
|I'm just taking their reasoning and applying it to Chinese-cu history.
|We don't have to leave the 20th century to show that the Chinese-ge
|killed more than 100 million people.

More than 100 million Japanese? I don't think so. Do you really want
Deng Xiaoping to apologize to the Chinese people on behalf of the
Chinese people because XXX million died in civil wars and famines
in China? This is the funniest joke I have ever heard.

|
|But the _main_ issue is why the Chinese-ge have not apologized
|for what they've done?  For those of you who know the mentality

The reasoning is very simple, see above.

|
|I don't interact in newsgroups where there are excessive numbers of
|Chinese-cu.  I can't stomach stupidity, bigotry, cruelty [especially
|towards children], deceitfulness, and all-around mental masturbations
|for very long.

I can't stomach your bigotry towards Chinese either. I can't stomach
your deceitfulness in ridiculing a perfectly reasonable request to
the Emperor of Japan to tell the truth to Japanese schoolchildren.
I can't stomach your all-around mental masturbations that the goody-
goody Japanese are victims of Chinese bigotry. 


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