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From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: CD's Early Thanksgiving Ramblings
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 21:27:27 GMT

[ some deletions for bandwidth ]

CD writes:
>"Three weeks ago, I learned that a friend from high school 
>finally lost his battle with cancer.  Dead at 21.  He and I 
>hadn't been close in probably 7 years, but I read about his 
>death in the newspaper... two days after the funeral."

   "well, my high school class doesn't hold reunions. too many died
 in viet nam," DJ.

>CD chuckles softly and stares at his feet a moment.  "I started 
>telling friends of mine to be careful, just in case it was some 
>sort of divine retribution...

    "Nah. Things just come in groups..."

>"During the time that this was happening, I got word from my 
>father that the company he works for, Shell Chemical, was 
>starting cutbacks.  Luckily, a few days later he found out that 
>he was safe... for now.  But he had to tell some of the people 
>that worked for him that... uh... their services were no longer 
>required.  This includes a friend of his that he's known for 
>over 35 years.  This particular person celebrated 25 years with 
>the company the same week he was let go.  Talk about a mindfuck...

    "Its happening everywhere, " Linda.

>"Oh, and let's not even start on the fact that I'm probably 
>going to have to finish school part-time and work full time, 
>delaying graduation yet again.  With the economy being the way 
>it is, and especially with the Houston Area seeing more and 
>more computer professionals laid off every month, I'll be lucky 
>to find a job operating an electronic cash register at 
>McDonalds.  I've already asked if I can have my Senior ring 
>read Class of 9X, but they wouldn't do it...

    "Most everyone on this campus where I work, work full-time and
  take classes at night. Many work for NASA or one of the nearby
  factories and other places. One-two classes a term that way.
  It takes about 6-7 years to finish a degree..." DJ.

>"Have a good Thanksgiving folks.  I will certainly try to..."
>
>CD tosses the shot glass into the fire, grabs his coat, and 
>heads back into the storm.

   "CD it goes in cycles. bad-good-bag-good-fair-mediocher...
 Relax. The next cycle in one direction or another should start
 just any year now..." DJ.

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM - Gulf Park Campus 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
                     "Kill the Wabbit ! " Elmer Fudd.
From: dirbze@doc.bmd.trw.com
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Computer humor
Date: 5 Nov 92 09:07:24 MST
Distribution: world

In article <1d9ksfINN6b3@gap.caltech.edu>, lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:
> I have just spotted the following gem in one of the trade mags I get:
> 
> " A REWRITABLE OPTICAL DISK DRIVE ... The MO650 employs a 3,600 reverse
> polish notation (RPN) disk rotation, and uses an ultra light optic head
> to increase speeds ..."

Wow!  That many, huh?  [grin]  So where can I get one of these... it'd make a
useful addition to my collection of Write-Only Memory, Noise Emitting Diodes,
and especially my 10 yr Uninterruptible Power Supply, complete with lead
shielding, 500' extension cord and all!... [it's a nuclear reactor on a board!] 
[hehehe]

> The same issue has a useful-looking review of network hubs. However, if
> this is the level of understanding amongst the guys that wrote it, can
> it be worth the paper its written on? (Answers on a postcard please :-)

Well... my answer in the past to these folks has always been a sincere letter
asking them to please cancel my subscription... oh well...

Hugs & Grins!

Dirbze!
From: saiki@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (L. Saiki)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: No subject
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:10:28 GMT
Organization: University of Hawaii

>>Hurray!!!!
>>"Hello!! Hurray!!
>>sorry to be so noisy, but ohmi!"
>>An indistinct figure puts her head around the door then walks in 
>>rotating as she  tries to gaze at all of the place at once." Hi Mike! 
>>Hi Ignatz! Hi anyone else that remembers me. I'm Mary, I was here 
>>nearly -ohmi- 2 years ago, when I was doing an MSc in IKBS/AI at Uni 

My boss, Dreamy Jim says...

>      Hello Mary. I'm Dreamy Jim and my two sidekicks, Linda the StarShip
>   and Robbie the Robot. Welcome to the Place ! Or back to it I should say !

>   Robbie is about 3 feet tall, about 1 meter, and looks like a cross between
>   R2D2 and Robbie from Forbidden Planet... Linda is about 6' 7" tall and 
>   appears to be a silver woman, when she is actually a StarShip. Spacey is
>   signed on as Science Officer. Linda liekes to dance, and Robbie likes
>   to cook sometihng he calls Bar-Bee-Queue. I'm posting all of this detail
>   for all the new people to read...

Spacey walks in as her 'real' self....plops down at her booth...but
hears her name and looks around, waves and smiles blankly at everyone
looking at her.  

She orders a sarsaparilla for her boss and herself, and pays Mike.
Sipping that yummy bottle of sarsaparilla, she smiles and says, 
"Aaaah...it's good to be back in my 'real' self! .. Mmmmm yummy!"

The news server [seemingly for a.callahans only!] was down, so I had
to log into my account at nyx in Denver....the lag was terrible.
<sigh>

"Hi Mary!!"

:) :) :)
-- 
lauri				just me!			 spacey
.from the ashes of liars, grow the flowers of hope... -- DEATH IN JUNE
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: God and Science:  The Ramblings of The Nightstalker
Date: 12 Nov 1992 12:25:10 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
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In article <1992Nov12.020748.21841@midway.uchicago.edu>, mss2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Michael S. Schiffer) writes:
>>=	But those are all just more questions.  And, of course,
=>=getting to them requires accepting the hypothesis advanced-- which in
=>=turn means considering the Christian answer to the `whys' more
=>=compelling than other answers to the question of `Why are we here?'
=>=Many don't consider the question meaningful at all.  I do, because I
=>=think most people can't help but assign moral meaning to their actions
=>=(i.e. believing certain acts committed by them or against them to be
=>=unjust) and I consider a mass delusion of meaning and free will to be
=>=a less compelling hypothesis.
=
=>Why do you consider it a less compelling hypothesis? 
=
=	"I have direct experience of exercising free will-- more
=direct than my experience of the real world itself, which is after all
=filtered through sensory experience before reaching my consciousness.
=I _could_ be wrong about this, but since no one has yet devised a
=means to prove or disprove the hypothesis, and I don't think it's
=irrelevant (since I would consider it unjust to hold people
=responsible for their actions if they had no choice in the matter) I
=have to choose one position or the other."

I was more interested in why you don't find a mass delusion of meaning a
compelling hypothesis.  The actual existence of meaning would be compelling
were people able to agree on what that meaning is.  Given that so many people
have made so many different claims as to what that meaning might be, I don't
find the idea that there's any intrinsic meaning to life very compelling.

=	"I haven't the foggiest idea.  But ascribing a guilty
=conscience to dogs may merely be a matter of anthropomorphism-- like
=calling some animal's facial expression a "smile" because it
=superficially resembles our smile, without any knowledge as to whether
=the source is the same.  We know humans from the inside, and hence
=have some experience what internal mental processes cause the external
=behavior described.

Well, to pick a nit, we each know ONE human from the inside.
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From: wyang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William D Yang)
Subject: Re: illuminati
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:52:03 GMT

Kitten writes:

> "did you all realize our new president, a rhodes scholar and former
> student of (the name escapes me but he was a georgetown u. prof and
> accused illuminati) is one of "them"....of course we are not cleared
> for that information }:)."

I really wish someone would come up with some significant proof of
this.  I've heard, time and time again, that the Bavarian Illuminati
are ruling the United States between the Masons and a bunch of college
secret societies.  Thing is, I just don't see any reason to believe
this.  Why does everyone want to believe there's a conspiracy?  What's
with this... this... this... paranoia?
 
Can someone provide with one... just ONE.. piece of acceptable
evidence that might convince me that this group even exists?  And, no,
I won't accept the dollar bill argument.

  "Trust no one!  Keep your laser handy!"
 
	-Bill, SDQP-Bavarian Illumin... I mean Lurker@Large...   ;)
--
William D. Yang         wyang@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu         Yang.25@osu.edu
Technical Assistant to North Area Computing Sites at The Ohio State University.
It's my opinion, but if you really want it, you can have it for a nominal fee.
ObPhilosophy:  One's mind should always reach further than one's overbite.
From: eeb1@quads.uchicago.edu (e elizabeth bartley)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Democracy
Date: 9 Nov 92 02:06:47 GMT
Reply-To: eeb1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <122420156@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM>
daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:

>Unfortunately we have yet to see if Democracy is tenable.
>The history of America is not very long, and it is only relatively
>recently that we have come anywhere close to realizing democracy.

Beth pipes up from her pile of soapboxes: "It's recently that we've
come close to unlimited democracy; we've had limited democracy since
the country began."

Her mouth quirks in something midway between a grin and a grimace.
"Personally, I agree with Winston Churchhill on the subject:
'Democracy is the worst system of government, except for all the
others.'"

-- 
    Beth Bartley               Delurked -- Hi, all!
                "Kbox fall down go boom."    - Ron Levy
"He who will not reason, is a bigot; he who cannot is a fool; and he who
dares not, is a slave."                - William Drummond
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From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: HE
Date: 14 Nov 1992 02:47:47 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Nov13.204257.29309@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, njones@nyx.cs.du.edu (Nathan Jones) writes:
>For some reason, I want to say that _HE_ was written by Alan Dean Foster.
>Will somebody out there check _With Friends Like These..._ and _Who Needs
>Enemies?_  to see if it is in one of them?
>
>Thanks.  I wouldn't want the story to go uncredited.  By the way, wasn't
>it kind of illegal to post that story here?  Copyright laws and all that...
>:)

Huh?  Conrad said that is was inspired by a short story of the same name.
Now, you can't copyright a title.  If I were a writer and could find a
publisher, it would be perfectly legal for me to have a book called
_The_Sum_of_All_Fears_ published under my name, as long as I wrote it.  Tom
Clancy might not be too happy with the idea, but you can't copyright a title.
Even if I emulated Clancy's style well enough that a reader could tell that I
was emulating Clancy's style, that's not a copyright infringement, either.  The
copyright laws are quite clear about that, if I recall correctly.  As long as
the content of the book was quite distince from that of a previously published
work (and there are even exceptions to this requirement), copyright is not
infringed.
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From: rmarsh@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: So long & thanks for all the fish.
Date: 8 Nov 92 03:04:28 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

  Stumpy stumbles back into Callahans after an absence of a week or three. He
makes his way to the bar and buys a drink from Mike. Casting a fleeting
glance around the bar he takes in little except a few familiar faces and
one or two new ones. Pushing off from the bar he makes for the chalk line
in front of the fireplace.

  "To endings, and new beginnings."

>>Crash<<

  "It's time for me to say goodbye to this Place and all my friends here.
My degree is complete bar the rubber stamp (end of year chaos being the
reason for my only-just-lurking status of late), my account here expires in
a week and in some ways I've come to that time when I no longer need this
Place. As others have before me and shall do after me, I am about to move
on. 
  "There are a few things I want to say and do before I go though. I've had
a great time here in the last 8 months or so, I don't think I ever met a
better bunch of people. 
  "I don't want to lose touch with you all completely and I'd really
appreciate a flood of Snail addresses before my account expires. I have a
few, but not many, and a lot of important people are missing. For those who
want mine, it's in the .sig, the postcode (2001) can be added (as some
bright spark suggested) just for the HAL of it - mail gets here either way.
  "Speaking of which, thanks for the card DJ - I owe you one!
  "DM, those books are still on their way. I've been meaning to write a few
letters to send with them, but my letter-writing discipline is terrible -
they're coming - by Christmas, I promise. :)
  "And now I think the thing I'd like more than anything else is a big
Callahans style group hug."
-- 
Robert 'Stumpy' Marsh | 95 Fairfield Rd | I can't reply to E-Mail, but 
rmarsh@waikato.ac.nz  | Hamilton        | don't let that stop you sending.
+64 7 855 4406        | New Zealand     |
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From: rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Krum)
Subject: Re: SJ&TCS
Reply-To: rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov
Organization: Boeing Computer Support Services
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:49:42 GMT

In article 1du7h1INN9gm@gap.caltech.edu, lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.142424.25583@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov>, rich@theophilus.msfc.nasa.gov (Rich Krum) writes:
>=How sad that one of the greatest groups will be hardly noticed in passing--
>=all we have left now is Peter Schickle (sic) and B.D.Q. Bach--
>
>Are you SURE about the spelling?  I thought there was another vowel in there
>someplace.  And it's P.D.Q. Bach.  And Shickele retired the act about two years
>ago (or said he was retiring the act).
>
>=Now I have to really look for some Spike Jones so my children will have
>=some cultural knowledge of his work.  They've seen all the Ernie Kovacks
>=stuff I can find, as well as the Three Stooges--
>
>See if you can find the movie _Fireman_Save_My_Child_.  Starring Spike Jones,
>Buddy Hackett, and the City Slickers.

Naturally, since my fingers wander about the keyboard in their usual random,
senseless fashion--speelling is a disaster at times!  No, I'm NEVER sure about
spelling lately!

Anyway, the Professor is still on PBS locally, with something called
"Schickele (sic) Mix"  and still putting out CD's.  PDQ may be silent, bnut
he is still up to his old tricks.  (I`m just gonna let the errors ride--)

YEP, the cultural context is a lot of fun--thanks for the data.  I'll try
to find it (in BETA, of course :>)).

--Trol


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From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Rock and U2
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:46:24 GMT
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Brent Buckner (bucknerb@bnr.ca) wrote:
: >I think it holds with it the disillusionment of U2, an
: >almost Faustian record of their superstardom, where they have become so
: >big, they've feel that they've sold themselves out on the way. Now, one
: >need no longer believe in U2's ideals to listen to U2. Such is the state
: >of superstardom....
: >
: 
: In the early days of the band, U2 members complained about
: other bands being too concerned with politics in their
: songwriting.
: 
: They wanted to make music, not Statements.
: "The music's our message".
: 
: Sure, they sold themselves out on the way, but from the tone
: of your post it sounds as though they're back.
 
Alfvaen clears his throat.  "Excuse me?  I don't remember U2 selling out
anywhere in there.

"Not that I haven't heard it before from other people--that Rattle & Hum was
selling out, or was it The Joshua Tree?  But everyone seems to be reconciled to
Achtung Baby, and say that they're 'back'.

"With Rattle & Hum, which everyone condemns them for, I just saw them trying,
in some instances, to get back to their American rock roots, like with Angel of
Harlem, Desire, When Love Comes To Town, etc.  Where, specifically, did they
sell out?

"Or was it even earlier, with The Unforgettable Fire, perhaps?  I don't think
you make that one stand up either.

"As far as I'm concerned, U2 never sold out at all.  Or, to phrase that
equivalently, I never lost respect for them.  Maybe this is just because I have
a greater tolerance for 'commercial' music than some people(although not as
much as the ones who buy all the stuff that makes the American charts.  Yuk.)
But Rattle & Hum is still my favourite U2 album..."

--
---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)
"It's not my fault.  The orchestra has disappeared."
   ---Hector Berlioz
Current Album--Muppet Movie Soundtrack
Current Read--John Irving:The World According To Garp
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From: eeb1@quads.uchicago.edu (e elizabeth bartley)
Subject: Re: Economics and the Environment
Reply-To: eeb1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:16:08 GMT

In article <oezeXzG00aw=NDcnYz@andrew.cmu.edu>
Mark Beirne Lively <ml5a+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>	Bear listens to Beth as she comment about pollution and pollution
>rights and such.  Actually there are alreadty these pollution rights in
>place in a way and it drives the environmentalists crazy.  See there are
>limit to how much pollution of different types that each type of plant
>can put out.  So many tons of SO2 and NOx per year.  Now if there is a
>plant that produces less than this due to more modern equipment,
>stricter local regulations they can and do sell it to other places and
>this is allowable.  

Yah.  Hm, can actually see why you might not want plants not polluting
because of local laws not selling the pollution rights....  I suppose
I'd leave that up to the way the local laws are phrased.

What people who get uptight about plants selling "pollution rights"
don't see is that without the incentive of being able to sell those
pollution rights, most plants wouldn't bother with putting out less
pollution than the laws permit.

-- 
Pro-Choice                 Anti-Roe                     - E. Elizabeth Bartley
            Abortions should be safe, legal, early, and rare.

Cthulhu for President -- when you're tired of voting for the lesser of 2 evils.
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From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: CD's Early Thanksgiving Ramblings
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:49:56 GMT

StM writes:
>(DJ) writes:
>=>CD chuckles softly and stares at his feet a moment.  "I started 
>=>telling friends of mine to be careful, just in case it was some 
>=>sort of divine retribution...
>
>=    "Nah. Things just come in groups..."
>
>Sometimes.  When they do, you notice it.  When they don't, you don't.  Makes it
>SEEM like things come in groups, even if they don't any more often that you'd
>expect of a Poisson process.  The effect is similar to the one that produces
>the standard urban myth about the incidence of violence and such being higher
>when there's a full moon.

   "Yup. I agree. I thought this was true. Until several items of information
  showed me { a listing by percentage of totals... } that more accidents
  occur during a non-full moon. People notice the crime rate during a full
  moon because they have been told that it goes up during a full moon.
  One of my sisters told me that several police groups have looked into this
  as a way to seemingly 'predict' that a rise is going to happen. Their
  own record showed it doesn't happen that way, its just urban myth..." DJ.
 
{ one of my sisters is working on a bachelors degree in Ed/Psych and this was 
  brought up in one of her classes. } 

-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM - Gulf Park Campus 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
                     "Kill the Wabbit ! " Elmer Fudd.
From: s903040@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Christopher Francis Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: FOOD FIGHT !!!! (Re: Subject change: politics)
Date: 9 Nov 92 06:47:13 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon) writes:

>>ArchTeryx, after attacking the Gryphon, carries over a HUGE chocolate 
>>cream pie (enlaged via a little size magic).  He sets it at an angle behind
>>the Brumby's rear. "Now you can throw a pie!  Just give this a good kick,
>>it's set up to go flying from a horse's hooves! :>"

>"No fair!!! Their ganging up on me!!!"

The ThunderKat ambles over to the Gryphon, turns about to face his attackers,
takes a deep breath, and BREATHES.

A huge gust of wind blows all the pies away from the pair, sending most of them
back to the Brumby, and making a HUGE mess.

//That'll learn 'em//


-- 
ThunderKat (a.k.a. Chris Anderson)    s903040@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

"Sam pressed the button. A few lights flashed on the CPU. And another human
life ended. Somehow, it's always sad, no matter what."
From: arsmith@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Alan Smith)
Subject: Re: One-vote Election
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 03:07:13 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Nov7.212029.15871@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca> aaron@space.ualberta.ca writes:
>Alfvaen holds up a book with the title "The Book of Heroic Failures".  "I saw
>this in a remaindered book store a while ago, and one of the incidents herein
>mentioned is of interest to those who say that no election is ever swayed by a
>single vote.  (Yes, StM, this means you.)"  He opens the book and reads:
>"THE ELECTION THAT HAS PROVOKED THE LEAST INTEREST:
[election deleted]
>
>"If the demand is great enough, I may present more excerpts from the book..."
>
"DEFINITELY." Big Al says, "And I ain't even English (as though you couldn't
tell).  I wonder if our library has a copy."

Big Al.  Just plain Failure.
From: S.S.B.Glover@bradford.ac.uk (SSB GLOVER)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Is there a Doctor in the house?
Date: 6 Nov 92 09:57:37 GMT
Organization: University of Bradford, UK
Originator: 92909131@ccw310
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The ROUGE Gallifreyan Time-Lord?

I didn't know he was a commie, and a froggy one at that!

Steve 
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