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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:47:41 -0400
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Subject:      Re: _Hero_

               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-8121

                                            Michel Deschuyteneer
                                            Department of Neurology, HSC
                                            516 444-1469
                                            08-Oct-1992 03:41pm EDT
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    Another fine performance by Andy Garcia can be seen in STAND AND
    DELIVER as the inspector from the testing company. The face to face
    scene with E. J. Olmos achieves a rare level of intensity.
    MICHEL
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Subj:   RE: Your Chairness

>The inevitable, logical neologisms are woperson/wopeople. But these
>are just the kinds of tonguetwisters that over time are elided, the
>way boatswain became bo'sun or waistcoat became "wess-k't".
>
>Eventually, then, an adult female will be a wop's'n (pron. "woop'sun")
>and more than one wop's'n will be wop'le (pron. "wipple").
>
>Man and wop's'n. Men and wop'le. It has a ring to it.
>
>Stranger things have happened.
>
>kjf-

I think I'm getting the hang of it.  So, in accordance with our revisionist
principles of gender nomenclature, a little ex-post-facto renaming of
titles is in order...

Instead of "Little Women," we now have "Little Wop'le."

Similarly,

  "A Woman's Tale"  ->  "A Wop's'n's Tale."
  "Women in Love"   ->  "Wop'le in Love."  And so on.

Thus, a new philological movement is born:  deconstruction- the
dismantling of language- giving rise to reconstruction, where literary
carpet baggers run roughshod over common sense.  That groan you hear is
Dr. Johnson turning over in his grave.

j-man

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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:54:54 -0400
From:         "Ellen.Edgerton" <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Richard III & TV

I have a bit of a weird question -- or rather, the weird answer to
a weird question -- that I'd appreciate any information on.

I recently read that Laurence Olivier's film RICHARD III (1956)
debuted in American theaters >and< was broadcast on national
television (NBC, I think it was) on the same night.  I've never
heard of that sort of "simultaneous release" happening before
(and certainly not in the 1950's, and certainly not Shakespeare!)

Was I hearing things, or did this really happen?  If so, were
there any other instances of such a thing happening on TV in
the 1950's or 60's?

Ellen
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From:         "Ellen.Edgerton" <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      WAR!!!

A good documentary about Vietnam is DEAR AMERICA: LETTERS HOME FROM
VIETNAM.  I think it's available on HBO Video.

Was "Tumbledown" ever shown in the U.S.?

Ellen
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Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:24:27 -0400
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Subject:      Re: re:the last of the mohicans

>saw the last of the mohicans thought that it was an exceptionally good
>film...the idea of a tragic love set against the beauty of N. Carolina...

Well...it was *shot* in the beauty of N Carolina, but it was *set*
in the beauty right outside my window, 18 miles south of Cooperstown,
where something in the water has convinced people 1) that JF Cooper
was a good writer, and 2) that Abner Doubleday invented baseball.

What with all the movie companies that have passed near here in the
past few years (League of Their Own, Liebestraum, PBS' upcoming
Susquehanna Stories) we felt left out when Macho Mike Mann went
south instead.

kjf-
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:35:11 -0400
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Subject:      Re: The Biting of the Rump

               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-8121

                                            Michel Deschuyteneer
                                            Department of Neurology, HSC
                                            516 444-1469
                                            07-Oct-1992 10:31pm EDT
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    Er...
    Has anybody seen any good movie lately?..

    Just wondering.

    MICHEL
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:57:16 -0400
From:         FISHERKJ@SNYONEVA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Dracula

>Young boys and many men hold dear the idea
>of being ravished by two or more women at once.
>It's that testosterone stuff cursing through
>their bodies...Biology, plain and simple.

This writer, boys & girls, exhibits all the symptoms
of classic estrogen poisoning. Notice the fever,
hallucination, violent sexual envy. Once that stuff
gets into the neural nets -- well let's make sure we
keep the patient far away from the scissors. The cure?
Plenty of roasted pumpkin seeds and sassafras tea.

kjf-
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Last night, after the end of this movie, I jokingly told a friend that maybe
she'd rather prefer the other ending, the one in which Glenn Close does kill
Michael Douglas (my friend kept screaming throughout the bathroom scene).
Then, an acquaintance said there was another ending, a one in which Glenn
Close is committed to an asylum.  Is this true, that there is a second ending?
Or is this just part of the original ending?  Thanks.

Euge
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Subject: Re: Meeting Venus et al
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Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:27:16 GMT

"Dick Clawson, S.J." <CLAWSON@LOYNOVM.BITNET> writes:

>Don't take my word on this alone (I am a professional muisician who has
>dropped my instrument the second the Unions standard break time rolls along)
>I have watched this film several times and my opinions are shared by an
>operatic Baritone who has performed at the Met, La Scala, The Paris Opera etc..
>With a film critic who has judged at Cannes many times in the past 23 years.
>A graduate of the Goodman School of Drama who is currently artistic director
>of a national, full time theatre company.  As well as myriads of "normal"
>people ranging from Honduran secretaries to Economists.  This film did not
>fail to enlighten or entertain any of these people.

I agree wholeheartedly. My wife and I are both musicians and never
stopped laughing at the operatic "types" lampooned so accurately 
throughout the movie, and the various nationalistic digs added to the
comic effect. Anyone who has worked on an opera in one capacity or
another (or even hangs around with opera people) should appreciate
the intrinsic satire involved.

>Surprise, I once again beg to differ.  An interview with Close in Theater
>Crafts magazine reveals an actress who is immensely proud of her work in
>this film, she has had a long association with the Theatre and this provided
>an outlet into opera, one of the few places she hasn't ventured.  Her Lip
>synch looks exceptionally good because she underwent extensive voice training
>in order to add to her authenticity.  She wasn't just pretending to sing, she
>actually learned the arias and sang them.  When they dubbed in Kiri te Kanawa
>in editing, hers was the most convincing performance.

I saw a similar interview which showed the scenes of her actually 
singing (undubbed). Not bad (although I wouldn't advise her to give up her 
acting job...).

>I liked _Maxie_  her "Bye Bye Blackbird" was flawless.

Or at least worth a good laugh. That scene was about all I liked of
the movie, however.

>Differing opinions, thats what its all about. Thanks for responding I never
>mind defending something I believe in.

Yup.

>RDC,SJ

jr
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Subject: Denholm Elliot
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:49:43 GMT
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What about "Percy's Progress" ?

      j.s.
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Subject:      Rocky II

One more thing MK

I DO NOT consider either of the females in
Kramer vs Kramer or Ordinary People as strong females.
If you want to see a strong female check out
Jessica Tandy in Fried Green Tomatoes.

Joe Daus    U of MO-Columbia
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Yes...could someone PLEASE send me a copy of the Presidential debate review?
I have shown around the Veep review, and people just love em!  Keep em coming
Dick.  Fantastic!

                                           Thanks!!

                                           Dan
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:13:46 -0400
From:         "Ellen.Edgerton" <EBEDGERT@SUADMIN.BITNET>
Subject:      Laurie, Branagh et al

SWING KIDS is a Disney film (Branagh did not direct) featuring Branagh,
among others.  No release date as of yet.

PETER'S FRIENDS is Branagh's next directorial job (so I guess it's
"his" next film).  Release date December 25.  Supposed to be fairly
decent, from what I hear.

I only know Hugh Laurie from BLACKADDER.  Funny stuff.  What else has
he been in?  Movies, I mean.

Ellen
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Date: 7 Oct 92 16:40:20 GMT
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>I've got a call from Oliver Stone...

Was it O. Stone who was recently revealed as a KGB agent?
Wait...that was I.F. Stone.  Well, six of one...

By the way Sue, I s'pect SUNY builds on hills because the land is cheaper.
Giving directions here is a snap: drive uphill to find a college,
downhill to find a bar.

kjf-
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Subject:      Re: All the Presidential Men

Well, I was just waiting to see if anyone would ask about the debate.
On the whole, I agree with most of your comments.  I watched most of the
debate, and on those ocassions when I left the room, I was able to come
back and draw the same conclusions:

Clinton did look practiced, but that's because he probably did practice
more than any of the other two candidates.  I thought he did a good job'
of controlling his penchant for wordiness and creating a "presidential"
look which all the political analysts said was very important to his
campaign.

Perot was refreshing.  He spouted a lot of good old-fashioned truths, but
unfortunately, he was very vague about his plans once he became president.
In his case, I think that works for him.  He down-to-earth homespun attitude
played very well on the tube, but he lost all credibility when he dropped
out of the race several weeks ago.  Now, he's just muddying the water.  He
can make a point, but that's about all.

Last, and certainly least -- Bush.  An unofficial poll of my co-workers was
very enlightening this morning.  They disagreed about who they thought was
the best.  But everyone agreed that Bush was very definitely the worst of
the three debaters.  In a word, he seemed like a desperate man taking
desperate measures to try to keep his job.  The work on the street is it
won't work.  If he doesn't do better in the next two matchups, and even
if he does, he's HISTORY.
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Euge,
There *is* an alternate ending to Fatal Attraction that (I think) is what
you're describing (commitment to an asylum, though I thought it was supposed
to be that she commits suicide...).  This ending is included on the new
cassette and disc versions of the film.  At least that's what I've read,
since I've seen neither myself.  Jeff Clark
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Subject:      Re: Nicholas Roeg

I haven't seen Casino Royale in quite a while but a remember seeing
Nicholas Roeg's name.  It was probably as director of photography since
he came up through the ranks as a cameraman and he is credited as the
D of P in the film Fahrenheit 451, which came out earlier.

Christopher Richard
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:10:47 -0400
From:         FISHERKJ@SNYONEVA.BITNET
Subject:      The Biting of the Rump

>you might get away with it!  it's only harassment if it is unwelcome.
>Some people might like it.

Ellen,

Your advice seemed sound, so I tried it.

The hearing is scheduled for next Friday.

kjf-
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From:         "Orlanda Thompson --- Rm M1310 Bldg. 100 --- Ext. 3005"
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Subject:      Re: Irish Music/Five Heartbeats

"The Five Heatbeats" is one of my favorite movies; so I just had to comment
on the topic.  "The Dells" performed the soundtrack for the movie.  The actors
all lip synched.  There were several songs played on the airwaves from the
movie, all by different artist.  I actually have the original movie soundtrack
and even though in the movie, the songs are sung by "The Dells"; on the
soundtrack they are performed by the different artists.

Orlanda
Internet:  thompson_o@rso.dnet.ge.com

P.S.  Sorry for the errors; fingers were going faster than my thoughts...
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:07:17 -0400
From:         MDESCHUYTENE@SBCCMAIL.BITNET
Subject:      Re: unemployed politicos

               State University of New York at Stony Brook
                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-8121

                                            Michel Deschuyteneer
                                            Department of Neurology, HSC
                                            516 444-1469
                                            16-Oct-1992 09:55am EDT
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SUBJECT: RE: unemployed politicos

    Reminds me of SOAPDISH and that great Whoopi Goldberg line:
    "How come _I_ can never write shit like this?"

    Thanks for the laughs!

    MICHEL
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Subject:      Re: Your Chairness

                  I N T E R O F F I C E   M E M O R A N D U M

                                        Date:     12-Oct-1992 11:31am DST
                                        From:     Ellen L. Gfroehrer
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Subject: RE: Your Chairness

Well, why be so furniture specific?  In the interest of fairness, why not
consider, Your Gavelness, Your Podiumness?
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:15:57 -0500
From:         huddle@VTTCF.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Haggis References

Our dotty friend, Liam, writes:
>>>> BTW, I'm Scottish, and I hate whisky.  Most whisky, anyway... I am rather
>> fond of Southern Comfort.  I loathe haggis, too.  Apart from the fact that
>>> it tastes horrible, I find it morally objectionable that people insist
>>> on eating an animal that is facing extinction.
>>
>>Since when is the sheep facing extinction?

>Ah, you're talking about "haggis substitute".  That's fine, eat as much as
>you want (it still tastes horrible, though).  I was talking about _real_
>haggis, as found in the mountainous highlands of Scotland.  Hunting
>them for food has caused wild haggis numbers to drop drastically in recent
>years.

from the Online OED:
Concise Oxford Dictionary, 8th Ed., Copyright 1991 Oxford Univ. Press

/haggis/ <<"h&gIs>> n.[Food][Cookery] a Scottish dish consisting of a
sheep's or calf's offal mixed with suet, oatmeal, etc., and boiled in a bag
made from the animal's stomach or in an artificial bag.

ME: orig. unkn.

from Webster's Online Dictionary:
hag.gis \'hag-*s\ n [ME hagese] : a pudding esp. popular in Scotland made
   of the heart, liver, and lungs of a sheep or a calf minced with suet,
   onions, oatmeal, and seasonings and boiled in the stomach of the animal

Yesterday, was Mad Hatter day, Liam.  Care to explain your comment?

--
-scott
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:46:13 BST
From:         Kerr Avon <lcc@WIN.ICL.CO.UK>
Subject:      Last month's _Empire_ quiz...

Well, here are the answers to last months quiz.

Gayle Williams got a perfect 20/20.
Mary Schaffer missed out on #8 and scored 18/20.
Gayle Gleason had a noble attempt, and scored 8/20.

So the round of applause goes to Gayle W.  Well done.

Here are the answers...

>The ``What I Really Want to do is Direct'' Quiz.
>
>Woody, Warren and Clint do it.  Olivier did it.  Even Peter Sellers had a
>go -- unfortunately.  Simply name the stars below who've taken a trip
>_behind_ the camera, _and_ the film they created:-
>
>1. The Duke who did what he had to do with a famous fort siege.
>   John Wayne  The Alamo
>2. The blue-eyed singer-actor who became a singer-actor-director with
>   his solid World War II drama.
>   Frank Sinatra  None But the Brave
>3. The logical Science Officer who directed his colleagues' search for
>   his own good self.
>   Leonard Nimoy Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
>4. The Method One who took charge of an intense revenge western with a
>   double-entendre name.
>   Marlon Brando  One Eyed Jacks
>5. The prize athletic hoofer who directed Streisand as the singing
>   matchmaker of a Broadway smash.
>   Gene Kelly  Hello Dolly
>6. The great Sir Finky who made his directorial debut with a satirical
>   anti-war musical.
>   Richard Attenborough  Oh What a Lovely War
>7. The King of the Ring who wisely stayed behind the camera while John
>   Travolta reprised the role of Tony Manero.
>   Sylvester Stallone  Staying Alive
>8. The one-time baby-faced 30s crooner who helmed one of the classic
>   submarine movies.
>   Dick Powell The Enemy Below
>9. Zorba's one directorial assignment (for father-in-law C. B. De Mille)
>   was a historical swashbuckler starring Yul Brynner and Charlton Heston.
>   Anthony Quinn  The Buccaneer
>10.The weedy British heartthrob who went from Gone With the Wind to
>   helming a wartime morale booster update of The Scarlet Pimpernel.
>   Leslie Howard  Pimpernel Smith

This month's quiz will follow...
					Liam.
					====-

                                   *"That's a misprint."
     KERR AVON    |   Work: ICL,   *"A misprint?"
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Is there a version of "The Running Man" that precedes
the version featuring Big Arnie. I seem to remember a
review of a movie some years back that had a plot
very similar to "The Running Man". I think the other
movie was French, but I can't be sure...

                              John Smyth
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From:         Ray Hamel <RHAMEL@MACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Speilberg - JAWS

        In the 1975 Academy Award competition, JAWS was nominated for
Best Picture (lost to ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST), Sound (won),
Original Score (won for John Williams), Film Editing (won).

Ray Hamel
University of Wisconsin
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