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From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)
Subject: Hungarian Football Results round 20 
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 07:21:58 GMT

Hungary (16 teams, 1 UEFA)
=======
Round 20 (April 4)
Ferencvarosi TC          7-0 Zalaegerszegi TE
MTK-VM SC                1-0 Gyori Raba ETO
Tatabanyai Banyasz       1-1 Videoton-Waltham SC
Vaci Izzo MTE            2-1 Vasas SC
Diosgyori VTK            0-0 BVSC-Mavtranssped
Siofoki Banyasz          3-1 Haladas VSE
Veszpremi FC             0-2 Kispesti Honved FC
Ujpesti TE               3-1 Pecsi MSC

Table:
 1.Kispesti Honved FC        20 37-19 28
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 2.Vaci Izzo MTE             20 37-22 27
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
 3.Ferencvarosi TC           20 32-15 26
 4.Siofoki Banyasz           20 32-22 26
 5.MTK-VM SC                 20 33-19 25
 6.Videoton-Waltham SC       20 27-20 24
 7.Ujpesti TE                20 29-25 22
 8.Pecsi MSC                 20 15-17 20
 9.Vasas SC                  20 22-20 19
10.BVSC-Mavtranssped         20 20-19 18
11.Gyori Raba ETO            20 21-25 18
12.Tatabanyai Banyasz        20 16-29 17
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
13.Haladas VSE               20 19-26 16
14.Veszpremi FC              20 14-25 16
-------------------------------------------
15.Diosgyori VTK             20 16-30 14
16.Zalaegerszegi TE          20 10-47  4


-- 
-- Karel Stokkermans, RISC-Linz, Schloss Hagenberg, Austria, Europa
 -- email: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (or k314070@edvz.uni-linz.ac.at)
"O hoe vergeefs / des doelmans hand / zich strekte naar de bal    [  21-6-88,  ]
 die 'een minuut / voor tijd de Duitse / doellijn kruiste..."     [ J. Deelder ]
From: pyoung@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (Peter Young)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Tom Dooley
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:11:32 GMT
Reply-To: pyoung@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Labs

From article <1992Apr15.170509.2584@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, by ksz@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (kenneth.zaldo):
> It was reported in USA Today that Tom Dooley was granted US citizenship 
> and is therefore eligible to play for the U.S. national team.


Is this the guy they wrote the song about? The one who hangs down his
head and cries? (No, I don't mean Gazza)

:-)

  ____________________________________________________________________
  Pete Young         pyoung@axion.bt.co.uk        Phone +44 473 645054
             BT Labs, Martlesham Heath, IPSWICH IP5 7RE UK
   "There are two kinds of jazz, and they're both crap" - Alexei Sayle
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)
Subject: Austria-Lithuania
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:38:28 GMT

Friendly played April 14

Austria 4-0 Lithuania
 22.Ogris 1-0 33.Prosenik 2-0 36.Polster 3-0 83.Hasenhuettl 4-0

I only saw the goals, which is more than most Austrians can say.
First home match under Happel, first official interland for Lithuania
(they played a semi-official match against Poland before), first 
Austrian victory since the 2-0 against the Far Oer Islands :-),
kind of Austria Wien reunion (6 Austrian and 3 Lithuanian players
coming from that team).

-- 
-- Karel Stokkermans, RISC-Linz, Schloss Hagenberg, Austria, Europa
 -- email: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (or k314070@edvz.uni-linz.ac.at)
"O hoe vergeefs / des doelmans hand / zich strekte naar de bal    [  21-6-88,  ]
 die 'een minuut / voor tijd de Duitse / doellijn kruiste..."     [ J. Deelder ]
From: kdobrien@unix2.tcd.ie (kevin daniel o'brien)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Manchester United for Championship 1992
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:19:13 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <gjskelly.702929238@unix2.tcd.ie> gjskelly@unix2.tcd.ie (garrett joseph skelly) writes:

>In <kdobrien.702925248@unix2.tcd.ie> kdobrien@unix2.tcd.ie (kevin daniel o'brien) writes:

>>It's just a shame that United couldn't hold on to a one goal when playing

>>against ten men. Three cheers for Steve Bruce and take it away Leeds.

>At least they'll be in Europe next season ( Tottenham Hotspur supporter


>						Cheers,
>							Garrett.

That's what you think mate!!!!!

                    Cheers,
                           Paul Gascoigne Fan.
From: geirjh@sofus.dhhalden.no (GEIR JOAR HVAL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Leeds
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:36:57 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

In article <pgllooly.702925089@unix2.tcd.ie> pgllooly@unix2.tcd.ie (Paul Gillooly) writes:


>Who are Leeds playing this weekend ?


Leeds are playing home vs. Chelsea on Saturday!


GARY
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From: kfolan@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (Kevin Folan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Derby County??
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:11:49 GMT
Reply-To: kfolan@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Labs

From article <u906789.702623898@bruny>, by u906789@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Mark Julian Turner):
> Does Derby County mean the same thing as Derbyshire? Or is it just another
> "funny" word on the end of a teams name (like Albion,Villa,Wednesday etc.).
> 
No doubt Garry Archer will have some more detailed information about
this but I can tell you that the name Derby County is not the same
thing as Derbyshire.  There are two football league teams in
Derbyshire:  Derby County and Chesterfield. Derby are currently
attempting to make the 2nd division playoffs, while Chesterfield are
going through a re-adjustment period in division 4.

Derby tend to think they are the only football team in Derbyshire
although their supporters should remember that the last time both
teams were in the same division (div 3 about 5 years ago),
Chesterfield came out on top, with a draw at the Baseball Ground and a
win at Saltergate.

> Also does Notts County mean Nottinghamshire also?

Don't think it does.

Kevin Folan  BT Software Technology			Tel: 0473 645692
G23/SSTF BTL Martlesham Heath Ipswich
From: v114nljy@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (DAS FUSSBALLER)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Re Re Juergen Klinsmann
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:28:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <73399@netnews.upenn.edu>, pchung@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (PLC) writes...
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> 
>> What's the difference between Juergen Klinnsmann
>> and the Titanic?
>> 
>> The Titanic didn't go down in the penalty area. 
>> 
>> ---------------------------------------------------
>> 

	Oh!  Blame Klinnsmann for taking a dive!!!!   In the WC'90
	championship game the *GREAT*  Deutschland  Fussball-Bund
	(German soccer club)  crushed the Argentians with a shot ratio
	of 15:1 (or something really close.)  Unfortunately for the 
	Germans they could not hit the mark on that day.  The ref
	made the call to show that the Germans didn't need overtime
	to show they could beat anybody.  (FIFA has a way of making
	everything come out "just right.")

>>>Although he is a great actor, he is also a very good striker, lets not forget
>>>it. Especially in W.Germany - Netherlands in WC'90 he did a superb job after
>>>Voeller was thrown out.
> 
>>>- Marko Poutiainen
>>>  mep@phoenix.oulu.fi
>>>-- 
> 
>Let's not forget, that Klinsmann could do this because Rijkaard went out
>together with Voeller!

	Oh? So Rijkaard is so great that he can cover *two* (2) great
	German strikers while both of them are on opposite wings!!  
	Sounds like you have Superman on your team!
	Rijkaard may very well be an excellent defender in your eyes
	but don't exagerate!!
                                          WILL

	DEUTSCHER FUSSBALL-BUND------WELTMEISTER '54 '74 '90  ('94!!)
From: wkau+@cs.cmu.edu (Wing Keung F Au)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Should we have an FAQ list ?
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:47:30 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

>
>As you can see, some categories may require separate lists (especially
>Rules of The Game) and therefore more folks may be responsible for different
>lists.
> ...
>By lists, I mean "FAQ (Part 1)" and "FAQ (Part 2)" ad infinitum.  Or perhaps
>its a good idea to only maintain one list of FAQ?
> ...
>>Oh yes, we also need a volunteer to compile and maintain the list... :)

i have been reading the discussion on FAQ's from another mailing list,
some people have been complaining about the large volume of flow in
news.answers, and secondly about whether to have more than 1 FAQ per
group.

in response to all that, i would suggest the following---

1) if there is so much to put in that it doesn't make sense to put it
all in 1 file, then split it into several, and yes, we can have several
people to maintain different sections (but that should be co-ordinated),
that minimize the burden on 1 individual.

2) there should be a much much shorter summary FAQ cross-posted to
news.answers, while the sub-FAQ's are not, to serve as a pointer.

3) for things that don't change that frequently, like broadcasting
frequencies, what the WC sites, past results, history of soccer, WC, the
posting frequency should be minimal, say at most once a month, and
someone should take over the task of maintaining canned replies and
notes telling people how to retrieve the archived material.  that leads
to another thing, finding a mail archive...(or ftp site)

go football, ciao

-- 

				    FRed W. Au
				    ...!cmu.edu!au+, au+@cmu.edu
From: hofmeist@zorro.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Thomas Hofmeister)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: German cup, 1st semi-final
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:47:55 GMT
Originator: hofmeist@zorro

German cup, first semi-final decided by a very strange
penalty-shootout with "hero" goal-keeper Kamps who saves 4 penalties.

M'gladbach    -  Leverkusen   1:1 after 90, 2:2 after 120, 2:0 in pen.-sh.

The details:
att.: 34 000  (plus millions on TV)

0:1 Kirsten      (51)
1:1 Kastenmaier  (61)
yellow-red Foda  (66)
extra-time:
2:1 Criens       (94)
2:2 Thom         (120)

Penalty-shootout:  Max (M'G)   scores
                   Jorginho's  penalty saved by Kamps
                   Steffen's   penalty saved by Vollborn
                   Herrlich's  penalty saved by Kamps
                   Neun's      penalty shot besides the goal
                   Lupescu's   penalty saved by Kamps
                   Fach        scores
                   Kree's      penalty saved by Kamps

On wednesday, the second semi-final between Hannover and Bremen will be
played.
From: mladen@tfl.dk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Bravo Sampdoria
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:02:05 GMT
Organization: TFL, A Danish Telecommunication Research Laboratory

In article <1992Apr3.073937.54159@cc.usu.edu>fajack@cc.usu.edu writes:

>	I am not a fan of Sampdoria.  But I cannot help to applause
>them for defeating Red Star Belgrade.  It is a travesty to let Red
>Star in the final again after what they did last year.

Last year it was really a travesty what Red Star did:winning of the 
European Champions Cup without loosing any of the matches in the 
qualification, beating Grasshoppers Zurich (1:1,4:1), Glasgow Rangers
(3:0,1:1), Dinamo Dresden(3:0,2:1), Bayern Munchen (2:1(in Munchen),2:2)
and Marseiele(0:0,5:3 on pen.). 

>        I hope I am not too premature in celebrating the victory.
>Afterall, there is still one game on hand.

Don't worry, Half of the Red Star team from last season are sold to the other
clubs, and half of them are injured, so probably junior team will play against
Anderlecht on Apr 15. And Samp is playing at home. Or maybe they let Red Star
to play again in the final? 

>Jack Teh

Regards,
Mladen Cvetkovic
MLADEN@tfl.dk
TFL
Horsholm
Denmark
From: dpwo_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Dave Wolgast)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: The law about Goalkeeper control
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:05:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: galileo.1992Apr10.190504.29614
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Apr10.141345.24421@news.iastate.edu> JI.RCB@isumvs.iastate.edu (Robert Bergmann) writes:

>>Last week when our team was playing in a small league, our goalie stopped the
>>ball (which was on the ground) with his hands but didn't pick it up. Then he
>>pushed the ball, with his hands, a couple of yards and as he picked up the ball
>>to kick it the referee blew the whistle and gave the other team an indirect
>>free kick. According to my knowledge, the goalie's action were correct but
>>somebody told me that there has been some changes in the rules. Could somebody
>>please explain the new rule regarding the above incident.
>pretty boring stuff, right?

>Referee Bob

I realize that the above is not attributed properly...sorry, but the
original article was expired.  Anyway...

I'm glad that I finally get to post again!

The change occurred this year...Except that the situation you describe
MIGHT have been illegal previous to the change.

We have been instructed that guiding the ball by pushing it along the ground
is the same as control with the hands, and therefore, four steps should
be counted while performing that action.  If there are multiple "pushes,"
they amount to multiple controls which is clearly illegal, and has been
for a few years (1985?).

Here is the text of this year's IFB decision:

"The International F.A. Board is of the opinion that a goalkeeper, in the
circumstances described in Law XII 5(a), will be considered to be in
control of the ball by touching it with any part of his hands or arms.
Possession of the ball would include the goalkeeper intentionally parrying
the ball, but would not include the circumstance where, in the opinion of the
referee, the ball rebounds accidentally from the goalkeeper, for example
after he has made a save."

Basically, what this means is that if the GK has the opportunity (it is
within his skill level) to catch a ball that he plays with his hands or
arms, then he must do so if he wants to further control the ball with
his hands or arms.

For a ground ball, a GK must either pick up the ball straight away or use
some other part of his body.

In my opinion, this will definitely reduce time-wasting by goalkeepers.
I think we will have to call it several times at the start of the season,
but it will improve quickly, since teams often don't like IFK's six yards 
from their goal.

Dave
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University of Rochester                  UUCP:  ...!rochester!ur-cc!dpwo_ltd
Rochester, NY			       Class of 1992!!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
Subject: Re: Football at the movies etc.
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy / Univ. of British Columbia
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 19:54:53 GMT

In article <HANS.92Mar31150325@ravn.iesd.auc.dk> hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel) writes:
>
>...and now over to something completely different:
>
>The other day I was trying to find out if there were any interesting
>works of fiction (films, plays, novels etc.) where football plays an
>essential part. Oodly enough, off the top of my head I could think of
>very few actual examples.
>
>There is of course the mediocre "Escape from Victory" film by John
>Huston with Sylvester Stallone (!) playing alongside Pele et al. As
>far as I know this is Hollywood's only attempt at a film about our
>noble sport. Now what does _that_ tell us ? [a rhetorical question!]
>

   Ah ... but don't forget the recently released (i.e., this week) Rodney
   Dangerfield sure-to-be-a-classic flick "Ladybugs", revolving around his
   coaching of a girl's youth team.  Egads!

   Recent episode of "The Wonder Years" revolved around Kevin's trying out and
   making the high school soccer team.

   Brad

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From: hofmeist@zorro.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Thomas Hofmeister)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: German Bundesliga results
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:24:53 GMT
Organization: CS Departement, University of Dortmund, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: zorro
Originator: hofmeist@zorro

Here are weekend's Bundesliga results.      
      
      Karlsruhe  1-1  VfL Bochum
  Werder Bremen  2-0  Dynamo Dresden    
  Hansa Rostock  2-O  Schalke O4        
       Dortmund  3-O  B. Muenchen
      Stuttgart  2-0  Nuernberg
     M'gladbach  1-1  Frankfurt         
   Wattenscheid  1-1  Hamburger SV      
     Leverkusen  3-0  Kaiserslautern    
   MSV Duisburg  1-3  1. FC Koeln
    Duesseldorf  1-3  Stuttgarter K.

Details will be posted later
From: john7552@MAMUT.WLU.CA (niall johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: USA WORLD CUP AND english supremecy, (ha ha ha)
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:50:50 GMT

> i want to add my few cetns to this discussion about the
> USA and the english.
> this is mainly directed at the londoner in indiana.  first of all how did you
> end up in such a desolate place???  secondly, i think the rural confines 
> of indiana have clouded your judgement.
> english soccer is not so nearly as impressive as you like to state.
> look at liverpool and the rest of the english teams in the various
> european cups.  gee, they did well. 
 

May I direct your attention (whomsoever you are you gutless wimp!) to the
European Champions Cup through the late 70s and early 80s (before the Heysel
tragedy).
I believe you'll find sufficient evidence of British domination there.

And next time have the guts to identify yourself!


-- 
Ciao

Niall Johnson,
Dept. of Geography,
Wilfrid Laurier University.
     john7552@mach1.wlu.ca
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: World Cup '94
From: bsutesch@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 11:39:38 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <92092.165051KEMCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <KEMCC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
> someone wrote that FIFA had an emergency meeting and decided to take the
> WORLD CUP away from the u.s.a. this has got to be an april fool's post.
> but i must add that i would have welcomed news like this. we don't need
> the u.s.a in our sport.
> THE WORLD CUP - THE GREATEST SHOW ON EARTH. (and it's called football not
> soccer)
>                                                        regards,
>                                                           kenny.


"OUR" sport!!!  Zenophobia strikes again.

You can whine all you want, it still won't change the fact that
WC '94 will be in the United States.  Ha!

Brian U.
From: 160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Kaiserslautern player avaialable for Team USA
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:34:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.si0gdINNqu7
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Today's Sna Francisco Chronicle reported that Thomas Dooley (?) , a 30
year old defender of FC Kaiserslautern has received US citizenship and
consequently became available for US soccer team. Who's this guy? is he 
a starter? How long did he play for FCK?

Cheers!

-- 
Radu T. Tomescu at UCBerkeley
Department of Economics
From: 160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: BRAZIL: CAN THEY BE CHAMPIONS AGAIN?
Date: 16 Apr 1992 01:50:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Apr13.214733.10705@daimi.aau.dk> rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen) writes:

>>The big question is: Can Brazil be World Champions again?

Probably not. The game has evolved a lot since 1970; it has become much faster 
and physically demanding. If you watch tapes of the 1958 World Cup (when Pele
made his appearance) or of the 1962 one, you' d be amazed at how slow the game
was and how permissible the defenses..Why, attackers would get within 10 meters
of the goal and still not take a shot? The 1970 Brasil team (possibly the grea-
test ever) benefitted of the services of several superplayers: Gerson, Riveli-
nho, Tostao, Pele and Jairzinho. Coincidences like this do not happen very
often..But, otehrwise, Brasil has been slow to adapt to the new game. Also,
most of their star players are in Europe now and it is so diffcult to motivate
a team of mercenaries..



-- 
Radu T. Tomescu at UCBerkeley
Department of Economics
From: kfolan@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (Kevin Folan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Derby County??
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:34:14 GMT
Reply-To: kfolan@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Labs

From article <5361@hsi86.hsi.com>, by archer@hsi86.hsi.com (Garry Archer):
> In article <u906789.702623898@bruny> u906789@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Mark Julian Turner) writes:
>>Does Derby County mean the same thing as Derbyshire? Or is it just another
>>"funny" word on the end of a teams name (like Albion,Villa,Wednesday etc.).
>>Also does Notts County mean Nottinghamshire also?
> 
> 
> Yes.  Derby County FC are a team that represents the county of Derbyshire,

Sorry Garry. Thought you'd have got this one right. Derby County have
a ground in the city of Derby and so represent that city (and the
surrounding area). Many Derbyshire based people are closer to
Notingham and so support either Forest or County, and further north
the real football aficianados follow the Spireites :-). I suppose in
the north west of Derbyshire there are many United and City supporters
(Manchester that is), and possibly Stockport etc.

> just like Manchester City FC represents the city of Manchester.
> Correct.  Same for Notts County.

Oh I see, you're joking. Still we wouldn't want people to take this
seriously would we ?

Kevin Folan  BT Software Technology			Tel: 0473 645692
G23/SSTF BTL Martlesham Heath Ipswich
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: root@ncube.com (Operator)
Subject: Re: BRAZIL: CAN THEY BE CHAMPIONS AGAIN?
Organization: nCUBE HeadQuarters
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:53:33 GMT

>james@HISOFT.COM (James C. Armstrong) writes:


>-> For the past few world cup, Germany has advanced to the
>-> higher rounds and finals. Even though they didn't have 
>-> the best team! This is done more in caching rather than
>-> playing.
>
>A quick question:  How do you cache a football team?

Just put them in you memory somewhere and forget them!

Captain Zod...
zod@ncube.com