HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: AMALS - ya gotta love 'em...
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:05:29 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computervision

In article <1992Oct1.162746.6666@swlvx2.msd.ray.com> csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott) writes:
>So Rich, this means you're going on the FRF right? Britbike and all, right?
>
>BE THERE!

I'M COMING, I'M COMING!  As I noted to a few other Denizens, I gotta do it
if for nothing else than to prove that I REALLY DO own a bike.


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Back in the saddle - BONNE'S ALIVE          (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:25:54 GMT

stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:

>	OK.  Do _all_ DoDers wear full-face helmets?
>	All the ones I've seen do.

I've just about always worn a full face on the street. I used to wear an
open face helmet in the dirt, until I did a faceplant earlier this year,
now I've got a full face dirt helmet too. I can just imagine what my
face would look like if I'd chosen pavement or a boulder to land on
instead of sand.

Of the dozens (hundreds?) of Denizens I've met at the various rec.moto
gathers, I can only recall two with open face helmets, and one of those
was a shortie, for what that's worth. 
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:34706 rec.motorcycles.harley:669
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: 1985 honda nighthawk 650 for sale
Date: 5 Oct 1992 13:44:23 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

note of caution: pnw.forsale removed from newsgroups line.

In a previous article, paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein) said:
:- In article <1992Sep30.201436.13825@sequent.com> kb@sequent.com (kathy bryant) writes:
:- +
:- +                               For Sale
:- +                       1985 Honda Nighthawk 650
:- 
:- Is there some reason that this is in r.m.harley??


	just a hint.. thats all... just a hint ;)

	- ravi


-- 
'''---```---^^^^^^-----#-----~~~~~----'''------~~~~-----````~~~---------$$-----
sig (n): a piece of mail with a fool at one : Ravi Narayan - ravi@cs.wpi.edu
          end and flames at the other. (C).  :       Suzuki GS500E
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From: mja@philabs.philips.com (Michael Amato)
Subject: Re: car-to-bike jump start
Originator: mja@hercules
Reply-To: mja@philabs.philips.com (Michael Amato)
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, NY 10510
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:20:32 GMT


In article <1992Sep30.055240.9032@elektro.cmhnet.org>, root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
|> In article <1031@cybaswan.UUCP> eeharvey@cybaswan.UUCP (i t harvey) writes:
|> >asper@sbctri.sbc.com (Alan E. Asper) writes:
|> >[...]
|> >: 
|> >: PS Since there will undoubtedly be differing opinions, please only reply
|> >: if (i) you actually tried this and it worked, or (ii) you actually tried
|> >: this and blew your face off.
|> >
|> >(ii) Worked OK for me...
|> >
|> 
|> This thread has been going on and on ... and I can't keep quiet any longer. 
|>   12 volts is 12 volts, and a 12 volt wet cell, even a smaller one on a bike, 
|>   will absorb the current output of an auto alternator for the limited time

Since the amp-hour rating of an auto battery is much higher than you need to
start the bike you don't have to have the car running and don't have to worry 
about this.

|>   that you have the jumper cables hooked up.  If you (ii) blew your face off,
|>   it has *nothing* to do with battery size (amp hour capacity), but rather is
|>   due to your making sparks hooking/unhooking cables on a battery terminal.
|> 
|> You can jump start a 12 volt thingie from any other 12 volt thing; for safety
|> hook up the cables this way, assuming negative ground:  +12V to +12V
|> and then -(ground) terminal on one battery to the *frame* of the other
|> vehicle.  This is the one you unhook first too - this way when you 
|> make / break the final connection, and maybe make sparks, you do it 
|> *away* from either battery.  This avoids the "blew your face off" 
|> syndrome mentioned earlier.  
|> 
|> 
|> Charlie Smith    csmith@dsac.dla.mil  charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  whois ces10
|> MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers# 411, BK Ohio V 
|> BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff. 
|>              {  Friends don't let friends ride Japanese bikes  }
-- 
+-----------------------------------------------------------------+
| Michael Amato  DoD#0639 | "If pro is the opposite of con,       |
| mja@philabs.philips.com | then what is Congress"? - Will Rogers |
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From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:21:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: MSUS

> cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm) writes:
> In article <1992Sep27.055027.5555@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> coburnn@spot.Colorado.EDU (COBURN  NICHOLAS SCO) writes:
> 
> >A friend of mine asked me to reccommend the most motorcycle he could 
> >purchase for around $2000.
> 
> For any given parameter of motorcycle performance, a Harley achieves
> that performance by means of more motorcycle than any other
> manufacturer. Size counts, as they say.
> 

(Preface to flamers: I'm a Harley owner and fanatic.) I'd not recommend
any Harley you can buy for $2,000 unless you enjoy wrenching more than
riding and you have at least another $1K to spend to get it right.

And regarding performance; generally, Harleys have a lower power to
$ ratio when compared to oriental machines.
From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Kevin Charles Rubio)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Parking law
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:00:16 GMT
Reply-To: keeper@deeptht.armory.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu



I don't know of any law newsgroups to add to this...

Here's the situation:  I live in a mobile home park, and I recently
purchased a 50cc motor scooter.  The managers of the park are making
threatening noises about the rules of the park not allowing two-wheeled
motor vehicles.  (I did not sign their recent revision of the rules which
included this, however.)

When asked "Why?" they reply only "Because it's the rule."  They can't
make up rules willy-nilly, I expect, can they?  A motor scooter is quieter
than an automobile -- particularly the poorly-maintained ones at the houses
near mine -- so that certainly can't be the reason.  They say that the
scooter cannot be parked in the grounds, not even if walked to the street.

They are saying that they will have the scooter removed from the park
grounds (even if it's parked in the proper carport).

Is there any legal basis for their rule?  Has anyone been in a similar
situation?  What was the outcome?  What is the best way to fight them?

   If there is an appropriate law newsgroup to which followups would be
   useful, please add them to the newsgroups line if you follow up to this
   article.

--
NOTE: I do not own the account from which this is posted.  To send email
      replies, mail to keeper@deeptht.armory.com
--
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Cheers to the new moto TV show!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:58:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.141931.13571@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>
>Oh, you mean it really _was_ based on Zen and the Art...?
>
>>Yea, but it was drivel with motorcycles. That's a big step up from the
>>average show.
>
>Generally true.  Anybody see this week's Northern Exposure?  In
>one scene, Chris "I'm so full of myself I could burst" was shown welding
>on an old Harley frame.  (I think it was a Harley - how many other
>hardtail frames would they likely trust to an actor with a torch?
>Anyone remember if his Harley is, in fact, a hardtail?)
>So count this one as mindful drivel with motorcycle parts....
>-- 
>Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation

 He was quoting Zen and the art to the indian girl about becoming one
with  the machine. Gag. Make that a philosophical Gag.
 
 DoD advise:
 When one is in a hurry after lunch, but does not want to pass up
one's plump pickle after finishing off that tasty tavern burger, is it
considered good form to station said pickle hanging out of ones mouth to
enjoy in between gear shifts? Could it be mistaken for some gauch penis thing?
 
- jim(the sensitive delicate biker)
 
================================================================================
 Ipisissimus of the Inner Order of Sesquipedalian Fruitcakes - IIOSF XOX Dawn
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cbrother@afit.af.mil (Charles P. Brothers Jr)
Subject: Re: question #6 answered (was Re: Stupid Questions)
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:33:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.142556.594@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>In article <1afidjINN35f@cs.utexas.edu>, osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
>> 6.  What was the ugliest motorcycle ever produced?  (New, not ratted out.)
>
>has to be the FJ. that's why they cover it up with all that plastic.

An obviously feeble attempt to start a flame war, even I won't
bite on this one.

>-- bob pasker
>-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 

Charlie Brothers  86 FJ-1200

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: DoD weenies
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:24:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep27.071514.3078@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
}Y'know, sometimes people like you really tick me off.  I am the DoD,
}as are most of the people here.  We are under NO obligation to tell you
}*anything*, let alone information for which we have made it very clear 
}is not to be asked about here. (If you would meet a Denizen, he would 
}tell you plainly, most likely).  We even tell you very clearly where that
}information can be found (the FAQ list).  Yet, you push your way in 
}here and DEMAND that we tell you.  You call us names.  You call us 

I have been an active DoN (Denizen of the Net) for over a decade; some
of you oldsters may remember me as The MAD Programmer. The first thing
I do when I start reading a new newsgroup (as I did with rec.moto about
three weeks ago) is search for FAQs. There were none. I then saw a
woman take a lot of childish abuse for asking what DoD meant.

I wrote to two DoD'ers asking what it meant privately. One told me to
read the FAQ, and never responded when I told him that there is no FAQ
at my site (perhaps the expiration on the FAQ is set too short, or my
admin has an ignore-expiration fascist expire policy; I don't know).
The second DoD'er never responded. If you want to send me the FAQ, I'd
be much obliged for curiousity's sake.

Finally, what you fail to understand is that I was just taking a final
poke; I don't really WANT to get a DoD number. I'll just settle for
chance meetings with individual Denizens. DoD sounds like a group of
folks who started an in-joke at a party, and they probably get together
for runs and such. I enjoyed very similar things in my skydiving days.

Maybe I'll even ride with some Denizens on occasion when I'm a good
enough rider to be worthy, I just don't need the little Secret Society
crap.
-- 
Curtis Jackson		cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	(415) 962 4905
Adobe Systems, 1585 Charleston Rd., POB 7900, Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6ECAAA63B102631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 28 Sep 92 17:27:18 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:34:02 GMT

In article <Stafford-280992100901@stafford.winona.msus.edu> John
Stafford, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU writes:
>> >A friend of mine asked me to reccommend the most motorcycle he could 
>> >purchase for around $2000.


How about a $4,500 Harley?   ...heh heh... ;-)

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols)
Subject: Re: How far do you commute?
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:29:26 GMT

<HAHN@UCF1VM.BITNET> writes:

>How far is too far?  I have a cage...but it looks so pretty
>sitting in the garage.  :-)

>How far does the average Denizen commute?

20-30 minutes, every day, rain or shine, as only a true Denizen does.


--
*  Jeff Nichols                 |   I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay. * 
*  DoD#0402         AMA#?!@#*%  |   Ride:  GS500E    		   *
*  It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and I'm wearing milkbone    *
*  underwear--  Norm Peterson					   *
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Gasohol vs. MTBE
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:24:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <20731@drutx.ATT.COM>, kpm@druhi.ATT.COM (Kevin Malloy (DoD
#106)) wrote:
> 
> and MTBE is made from natural gas.  The problem with ethanol is that it
> easily absorbs water...
> 
> In summer, I don't really worry if I'm burning ethanol-enriched gas.  The
> gas doesn't sit in the tank for more than a few days, so I don't worry
> about it.  In winter, a tank of gas may sit in the bike for a couple of
> weeks or more.  I only buy MTBE-enriched gas in winter 'cause the of the
> ethanol's propensity to absorb water and I don't want the water in my tank.
>

Ummm.  Doesn't the fact the ethanol absorbs water mean it will keep water
from hanging out in your tank?  After all, since gasoline and water are
imiscible, adding alcohol will tend to suck up all the water that has
been accumulating in your tank, and flush it through the fuel system.
(a GOOD thing)  
Isn't _DRYGAS_ basically alcohol?

> Kevin Malloy  kpm@druhi.att.com  AT&T Bell Labs, Denver  (303) 538-3511
> 633 E. 11th Ave.					 1991 BMW K75RT	  
> Denver, CO  80203	I'm voting _NO_ on Colorado 	       DoD #106
> (303) 830-2937	   Constitutional Amendment #2, Nov 3rd!

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Why is my face shield so scratched so soon?
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:58:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.182341.11617@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
>I have had my helmet (a Bieffe Classic, if it matters) for less than
>five months and the face shield is scratched as hell. No, I haven't
>face-planted or dropped the thing, nor have I cleaned it with 100
>grit sandpaper. The scratches are tiny in width, mostly horizontal,
>and there are billyuns and billyuns of 'em.

My Bieffe has the same problem.

>any ideas on why it scratched up so fast

The shield's made of the softest plastic know to humankind.
It'll scratch if you wipe it with a paper towel- that's how I
did in the first one.  The pivot design is bad too- the shield 
wears the spring-loaded pivot pin thingies that keep it from
flipping up, which you will discover when you look behind you
at speed and the shield gets sucked open.

>what I can do to repair it

Meguairs (sp?) Mirror Glaze/Polish will help if it isn't too bad.
You can get it at Orchard or Cal BMW in the Bay Area.

>and/or what I should replace it with?

I'm gonna replace mine with a Shoei RF200.


--
Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black leather.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Subject: Bike Needed For Out-o-Town Denizen Attending FRF on 10/10
Reply-To: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: ne
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 01:37:42 GMT


Brad LaBroad, a Tektronix employee, a GB500 owner/rider, a very good
guy, and a heck of a Denizen from Portland, OR (yeah, not ME) is
coming to Boston this week on business.  I inivited him to join us for
the FRF next weekend.  I'm putting him up at my place and he's going
to stick around and join us.

PROBLEM IS: He needs a ride.  The GB500 wouldn't fit in the overhead
compartment.

IF you have a bike Brad could borrow for the day, please contact me at
work or at home.  My numbers are below.  I will make all necessary
arrangments to pick up said bike and return it.  I will throw in a
free tank of gas to boot.

Brad and his fellow Denizens have hosted me *twice* this year on my
trips to Portland.  Both times they found a bike for me so that I
could accompany them on DoD rides.  I'd like to return the favor.
There must be someone in th NEDoD who could provide a bike for Brad.

Please contact me if you can help out: Work:800-666-5323x3423 or
Home:603-465-3590.  Leave a message with details at either number and
I'll get back to you.  Please don't worry about logistics; I'll take
care of everything.  Brad doesn't need anything fancy.  Just something
that runs and is safe to ride.  If you've got something you think will
work, but it needs rubber or other minor stuff let me know.  Maybe we
can work something out.  But its got to be done by Friday!

My Eternal Thanks In Advance.

-Gary

-- 
Gary Wasserman      "A completely irrational attraction to BMW bikes"
Interleaf, Inc.      Prospect Place, 9 Hillside Ave, Waltham, MA 02154
grw@ileaf.com        617-290-4990x3423 FAX 617-290-4970       DoD#0216
From: mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Argument Ammo (about the MSF course)
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:21:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: Caere.BvCo7J.n1p
Organization: Caere Corp.

mikel@berlioz.nsc.com (Michael G. Lohmeyer) writes:
>I would like to teach my wife to ride my bike.
...
>I feel that I can teach
>her well enough to get her safely started, and even better, I can monitor
>her much better than an MSF course can.

Eek!

You must be a newlywed.  :)

Mike I knew better than to even let my wife take the MSF course while I
was teaching it.  You're inviting emotional disaster.  It's very
difficult to give coaching and correction to someone you are close to.
She will have a tendency to take corrections as a personal matter, and
not as objective criticism.  Keep in mind she's going to be working
very hard to please you in the process, and when she can't, or when she
feels like you're picking at her, you're inviting fireworks.  Worse,
she stops hearing what you say.

I try to discourage family members from taking the same MSF course
even, so they don't get into skill comparisons and competitions.  Even
having an SO watching from the sidelines while taking the skill test
can be nerve rattling.

I'm not saying you wouldn't be a good candidate to teach someone to
ride, but you should think twice about your choice of students.  Put
her through the MSF course instead of trying to do it yourself.  In the
long run, you may wish you had.

Mojo
-- 
Morris Jones
Caere Corp.
mojo@caere.com
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: USA to EUROPE bike freight?
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 2 Oct 1992 18:15:24 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: rec
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <djm.717961775@morpheus>, djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David
Maconochie) wrote:
> 
> Has anyone gone by boat to Europe, and taken their bike with them?
> Who with, where from and how much?
> 
Hey, he's leaving!  Cool!

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jpolito@sysgem1.encore.com (Jonathan Polito)
Subject: Re: Aerostitch - Do they scratch?
Organization: Encore Computer Corp.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:58:43 GMT


In article <1992Oct6.140320.23471@novell.com> markb@wc.novell.com (Mark S. Burnham) writes:
   I remember reading about a year ago that someone had problem's with
   the stitching in their Aerostitch scratching (fairly badly) the paint
   on the gas tank of their bike.  Since I'm supposed to be receiving my
   suit this week (yeah!), I'd like to know if I should by a tank bra to 
   protect the tank.

   Any information greatly appreciated.

   Thanks!

   - Mark


In over a year of using my suit, I haven't experienced any paint
scratching from the suit. I believe, the person who complained about
the scratching also said it was because of kevlar thread which as far
as I know is not present on the aero.
--
Jonathan E. Polito (jpolito@encore.com)                 +1 919 481 3730
Encore Computer Corp, 901 Kildaire Farm Rd, bldg D, Cary, NC 27511  USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Drag racing
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:32:46 GMT

shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.172346.23080@serval.net.wsu.edu>, johnsw@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns) writes:                                              

>> Ride Free, and straight for 1/4 mile! 

>"Ride Free" generally means "helmet free."  Do you plan to drag race
>without a helmet?

Is this the new, Politically Correct, definition of an old phrase?

Are you now Keeper of the PC 'Tude?  :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
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