HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Birthdays
Date: 14 Sep 1992 20:30:18 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu


Andrew Foster asked about band members' birthdays -- this is all from
memory, but I think it's pretty accurate.

Fish - 2/19/65    (which makes him 27)
Page - 5/17/63    (29)
Mike - 6/03/65    (27)
Trey - 9/30/64    (27 now, 28 in a couple weeks)

I'm not 100% sure of the year for any except Trey's.

Shelly

ps.  and mine is today :-)  (so now I'm 28...is it too late to live while 
I'm young? ;-)

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Scott Bernstein <bernstei@remus.rutgers.edu>
Subject: THe Fuck You Post
Reply-To: bernstei@remus.rutgers.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:30:07 GMT

Guys,
I have been paitiently waiting for the responses to this stupid
post to die....the last 4 or 5 digests have been filled with
responses to it.....Leave it alone already; Although I wholheartedly
agree with most of the responses, I am not reading the Phish digests
to hear about this kind of stuff,,,,so let it die !!!!! PLEASE!
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Richard Zimmerman <YAQX@cornella>
Subject: Re: Ithaca 9-26-91 Venue?
X-Xxdate: Fri, 11 Sep 92 15: 22:57 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: rsz1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:18:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.173221.18319@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> John J.
Wood, jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu writes:
>Brian Feller asks...
>>   It looks like all of the college students are slowly
>>filtering back on to the net, welcome back everyone! A friend
>>of mine just got a DAT audience of the Ithaca 9-26-91 show
>>but the venue isn't printed on the tape, so I was wondering
>>if someone could either post it as a response or send it to
>>me directly. Thank you in advance (-:
>
>The Haunt, Ithaca, NY - This was the first time I saw and ever *heard*
>Phish -- or should I say, tried to hear, as the bar was so packed
>that I didn't have room to dance nor have a decent stage view. 
>
>The Haunt is a small club (capacity < 300) that has hosted a fine
>array of artists, including Phish, Merl Saunders, Hot Tuna, Albert
>Collins, Toots & The Maytals, and a big etc.

I'm not 100% sure, but I think this show was around the corner at the
much larger State Theater.  I don't think they have played the Haunt in a
few years....
From: brucew@phaeton.ee.cornell.edu (Bruce Willner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Net T-shirt  (to Matt Laurence?)
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:06:51 GMT
Reply-To: brucew@phaeton.ee.cornell.edu
Organization: The Internet

Are there any net t-shirts left?  If so, I'd like to get one.
I seem to remember that Matt Laurence was selling them, but
I don't have your e-mail address, Matt.

Could you send me whatever I need to know to order, please?

 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
|  No matter how high a bird can fly,   |     Bruce Willner              |  
|  a hammer can still break a window.   |     <brucew@ee.cornell.edu>    |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: brian.g.feller@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Uncle Chunk (minor phish content)
Reply-To: brian.g.feller@um.cc.umich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 16:20:51 GMT

 Howdy Pholks!
   Anyone in the vicinity of Ann Arbor, MI is invited
to come see Uncle Chunk at the Blind Pig, on 1st St.
They play Golgi sometimes, as well as the second half of
You Enjoy Myself. They are playing this Thursday, Sept.
17, around 10pm. Uncle Chunk features the infamous
Captain Dave (previously of Captain Dave and the Psychedelic
Lounge Cats). Check it out and Chunk it up!  Funky costumes
are appreciated :-)
       Patiently waiting for Fall Phish-
                                   Brian
 
Brian G. Feller@um.cc.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: joelfire@leland.Stanford.EDU ( Firehammer)
Subject: Re: Days of old...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 19:13:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.175426.25449@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> gollan@ucsu.colorado.edu writes:
>
>I wish that I had never voted in favor of rec.music.phish. True, it does spread
>the word about the best band in the known universe, but is that a good thing??
>This has all happened too fast. 
>
I, for one, am extremely happy that we have r.m.phish, and have found using
USENET to be infinitley easier and more practical than getting the newsletter
in my mailbox.  I can read at my leisure, and not have to worry about my
mailbox filling up, I can skip over articles that I don't want to read, etc.;
also, this has exposed me to USENET, which I've found to be a great service
in and of itself.  Sure, we have the occasional flare-up, but it's going to
die out soon enough.  There are compromises in any situation.  I do realize
that this has been a real pain to those of you that are not using USENET; to
those who are, it's been a inconvenience.  What I'm saying is that if you've
got it on your system, use it.  If you don't know how, ask your sys. admin.
 
-joel
Tboot!
From: leaf@kenyon.edu (IN SUMMING UP THE MORAL SEAMS A LITTLE BIT OBSCURE)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: sleeping monkey
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:55:25 GMT
Reply-To: leaf@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet

There's been a couple of posts lately (somewhere between all those other posts)
about the song "Sleeping Monkey".  Somebody said they weren't really moved by
this tune.  I happen to love it.  Sure it has become a pretty standard encore
(like "Rocky Top") but, when it's played well it really smokes (Ex last
spring's Cleaveland Agora show and the Roseland Ballroom w/ John Popper).  The
way Trey builds to his awesome solo is great.  The show in Cleaveland had a
smoking solo in it.  Anyway I love this song.  I also agree with a couple of
the interpretations that were posted about the song having sexual undertones to
it.  Fishman's singing is great in it (with all other members bowing their
heads with hands over heart).  
		That's just my 2 cents worth.
				Peace,
				  Matt Leaf
From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Helping Phriendly Book
Date: 10 Sep 1992 19:56:52 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu

In response to Matt Heller's posting:

So sorry for the delay in the new edition of the Helping Phriendly
Book.  With John Friedman's and Richard Stern's kind consent, it
looks as though I will most likely be accepting update and correction
info.  Please don't send it yet, until I'm able to verify with John
and Richard, and set up a system for processing it.  Don't worry,
when it's time to send it, you'll know! ;-)

Also, I am indeed accepting address additions and corrections for
the paper newsletter; feel free to mail those to me any time.  If
you already sent yours to me, it has been transmitted to Marni (I'm
sorry that I haven't been able to respond individually, but the
response has been prolific, which is great!)

Shelly


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Benjamin Burton <XLA0BMB%LUCCPUA.bitnet@uicvm.uic.edu>
Subject: New Member
Reply-To: XLA0BMB%LUCCPUA.bitnet@uicvm.uic.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 22:09:43 GMT


Hello everybody, I am a new member and I am just trying to figure out if I know
what I am doing.  I assume something will appear in my mailbox.
     Have a good day... Ben and Jer.
From: corsiB@moravian.edu
Subject: Re:  Phish Digest #490
Reply-To: corsiB@moravian.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:07:23 GMT

please send me another copy of digest #490 i lost it on my computer. thank you
					-brian-
From: AGRABINSKI@sc9.intel.com (ALEK GRABINSKI, 765-2151, VERTICAL FURNACE PGM MGR)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Avenu Malkenu
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:36:10 GMT
Reply-To: AGRABINSKI@sc9.intel.com
Organization: The Internet

Howdy.

To add a little fuel to the brewing Avenu Malkenu controversy: I think 
it's done in a tasteful way which is more artistic than blasphemous.  
Not being Jewish I don't feel offended at the rendition, as the 
translation in the lyrics file seems to be more of a prayer chant 
exalting God rather than a woeful tale which shouldn't be taken lightly. 
From the little I know about Judaism, isn't Passover the celebration of 
the Jews passing over into the Promised Land, hence a happy event?

To look for a similar circumstance in the Christian faith, I refer kind 
readers to The Little Drummer Boy: is the Bing Crosby version 
blasphemous?  How about Joan Jett's?  No, in either situation, and I 
think Phish is blameless in the presentation and subject matter.  For 
what it's worth, Fish is Jewish (I think), if that gives them any more 
"right" to perform it...

Now, as to Trey's introduction: "Mike 'Cactus' Gordon will now play a 
Happy Passover bass solo" may be too lighthearted for the very faithful, 
but remember, this was a high-energy outdoor concert, not a Seder.  

Here's my question: of what nature is the music to which Phish have set 
the prayer?  It seems Central European mixed with Middle Eastern, for 
what it's worth.  Are there any classical composers which have come 
close to the style used?

Alek
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: MLAVOIE%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: 10-31-90
Reply-To: MLAVOIE%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:14:55 GMT

i looked at my copy last night, and i have it as the armstrong theatre at
colorado college....

hope it helped
mike
From: augy@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Jeffrey Ehlinger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Phish and prayer:controversy!
Date: 7 Sep 92 06:35:43 GMT
Organization: The Tower of Zot - (716)691-3865


     Did this tape you listen to, actually say the prayer, or sing it. 
Because i think Phish may use some randomness in their word selection or 
song title selection. And was the Passover Solo an actual poke at the 
Holiday, or a random choice?
     I just wanted to clear things up for myself, before I can form an 
opinion on weather it irks me or not. Thanx -Jeff

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From: bing@Apple.COM (Christopher R. Bingham)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: PON slowed down>
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:35:45 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.phish
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Ellis of Lemuria writes:
>
>The entirety of PON sounds slowed down.  The rhythms are slower,
>the breaks seems longer, and trey's voice (esp on Chalkdust)
>sounds lower than I've ever heard it.  Is that purposeful, to
>make the disc more commercially viable, make the chords harder to
>ID, and make the shows seem (and, in fact, be) instantly more
>energetic than the audience expects? Or am I imagining that, and
>Trey's voice (throughout) is lower because he was in a studio and
>not psyched by the environment of a show? -- Ellis

Trey's vocals on Chalkdust are in fact lower -- a pitch-shifting device
was used in the studio.  (Trey later said this was an experiment that
wouldn't be repeated.)

In general, the tempos on the disc are noticably slower than the same
songs played live (especially Llama -- they tend to rip through it in 
concert!).  I don't think this was calculated to make concerts seem more 
exciting; rather, I think it's just the natural tendency of bands to 
groove harder in the rush of a live performance.

Chris

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From: shell@gandalf.Berkeley.EDU (Shelly Culbertson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: USE E-MAIL FOR ARGUMENTS
Date: 10 Sep 1992 04:59:08 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.berkeley.edu

I'm afraid that it may not be clear to some of the people reading the
digest only that the "F*ck you all" thread is being foisted upon us by
participants in other newsgroups, sort of like a virus.  If you are new
to the digest, I implore you to be patient; this is a totally uncommon
situation and has absolutely nothing to do with our regular atmosphere
and discussions.  I pray that it will all go away soon....it just makes
me feel sick to see it here.  To me, rec.music.phish is a sacred place
in cyberspace, and seeing it desecrated this way, I could cry.  Once 
more, if you are a digest reader and don't understand the usenet connection,
let me assure you that all of the people who are actively participating in that
argument have never at any time had any relation to the phish newsgroup
(other than the few phish.netters who have posted calling for an end
to the whole affair), as far as I am aware.

I have posted a plea to be deleted from the crossposting to all the
other affected newsgroups.  I am also sending personal email to the 
author of each future post asking them to delete rec.music.phish from
the distribution of any followups....(perhaps others will choose to
do the same).

It particularly upsets me to remember that a couple of the band members'
parents are on the net...god, I hope they're not reading it these days.

Shelly

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Lee Silverman <ST101137@brownvm.brown.edu>
Subject: Re:Sleeping Monkey
Reply-To: ST101137@brownvm.brown.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:11:01 GMT

I read (or listen) to this song with the following interpretation:
The "Monkey" is the man's sex life.  He's gone to visit his girlfriend
hoping to ummm.... improve his sex life, and she's turned him down.
Actually, I think the relationship between them is more complex than
that, but I bet many of us have been there before.

Here's the lyrics:
----------------
Sleeping Monkey
From: mep43562@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael E Powers)

The feeling's not the same,
In fact it's getting pretty tame,
It's just not that great anymore,
I guess I'll go outside,
And flag a weasel for a ride,
And take it on down to the shore,

Wallowing in fear,
The days and weeks that you're not here,
Was all the waiting in vain?,
The day that you arrived,
My sleeping monkey is revived,
But you sent him home on the train,

Chorus:
Home on the train,
Why'd you send my monkey on the train,
The day that you arrived,
My sleeping monkey is revived,
But you sent him home on the train,
Chorus again,
Chorus by Fish alone,
Chorus by Fish alone,
Chorus.
From: achaulk@wtcd.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Alex Chaulk)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: What am I missing?!?!
Date: 11 Sep 92 10:51:01 GMT
Reply-To: achaulk@wtcd.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Alex Chaulk)
Distribution: usa
Organization: WIN Management Services - Dayton, OH


   I somehow stumbled onto this newsgroup about 4 months ago and find it
interesting.  I guess what intrigued me was that if a music group had a
newsgroup all its own they must be pretty good.
   I then soon find out that these guys are from Burlington, Vt. where I have
spent a great deal of time and where my twin brother now lives and works.  And
THEN I find out that Phish used to frequent (maybe they still do) Nectar's.  A
place where I used to bury my face in a plate of gravy fries on hungover
Saturday afternoons after too many stumplifters at The Last Chance the night
before.  So, needless to say, Phish piqued my interest.  
   While wandering through a C.D. shop here in Dayton, I happened upon a copy
of _Lawn Boy_.  "Oh joy!", I thought.  Now I can hear what all this rave is
about.  I was expecting some tight, electric jam sessions but what I found was
a trifle disappointing.  I did find that "Run Like an Antelope" was excellent
and was quite impressed at the guitar work.  But, other than that (and maybe
another song or two) I found the C.D. quite forgettable.  Just what am I
missing here?  Did I just pick up one of their not-so-good C.D.'s?  Please
help as I really want to like them.  Maybe a veteran Phishnetter could give a
rookie some guidance.  Thanks in advance.

Peace

Alex J.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Parker Harrington <74230.2536@compuserve.com>
Subject: 9-26-91
Reply-To: 74230.2536@compuserve.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:23:08 GMT

Brian Feller recently asked about the venue for 9-26-91 show in Ithaca.
Someone replied it was the Haunt (a great club indeed!) but the show
was actually at the State St. Theater.  The tribute to Dr. Seuss in David
Bowie was out of this world!

Concerning "Sleeping Monkey".  People who picked up sexual undertones I do
believe hit the nail on the hand.  One band member (I forgot which) said
that the song was about an erection.

BTW, does anybody have a good copy of Phish's "Corrina" on tape? The copies
that I have are terrible.  Please let me know.  Thanks.
-Parker
From: JUSCHUMA@ucs.indiana.edu (FEELING PHISHY? call 857-1457.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: "fuck you all???"
Date: 9 Sep 92 22:11:25 GMT
Reply-To: JUSCHUMA@ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: The Internet


    Most of what I'm going to say is opinion, but listen and maybe you might
see things in a different light...  I'm sure many of us on the phishnet as
well as some of the other nets are outraged with this "FUCK YOU ALL" epidemic
that has been going around. It seems to me this may be someone looking for
a lot of attention.  Yes it's really frustrating to know that there are people
like that, but hey, why lower yourself to thier level by labling them or
making generalizations in retort?  The best thing that I've done in dealing
with people that have an attention getting problem is to IGNORE THEM.
   This huge reaction is probably just what "he" wanted.  It's great to hear
people add their beliefs, and feelings, but there's a difference between that
and name calling and bickering.  (I hope that is not offensive to anyone.)
    Also, as hard as it may be, realize that he has a right to an opinion.
That doesn't mean he has the right to post them on this net, but some things
are out of our control.  Please realize that this is MY opinion, but I hope
there are others who agree.

     LETS GET BACK TO PPPPPPHHHHHHIIIIIISSSSSSHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Safe netting,
jon
From: BGILLESPIE%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Help me Phind my phriends at UVA
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:46:55 GMT
Reply-To: BGILLESPIE%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet

Hello all,
       When I was in Virginia this summer for the Charlottesville and Richmond
shows, my companion was unable to attend with me and I found myself all alone
in a foreign state with nowhere to stay. So after the Charlottesville show
ended, I was just sittin' on the bar watchin' Fishman ballroom dancing with
some random girl and a girl named Tucker that works at Trax began talking to me
Shortly, we developed a phriendly rapport and the next thing you know I was
hangin' out at her place with some Phish heads listenin' to the master board
of the show that I had just seen (which was a doozy). She provided me with a
bed and kindness that has so seldom been expressed towards me. It is people
like her that make going on the road easier. Anyway, I do not know how to get
in touch with her and I would like to. So if any of you netters at UVA know a
senior girl named Tucker who works at Trax and has a really groovy house then
either let her know that Bobby is lookin' for her or e-mail me with her phone
number or address. This is very important to me so I need all the help I can
get. Thanks a ton.
                Salutations,
                      Bobby Gillespie
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: joelfire@leland.Stanford.EDU ( Firehammer)
Subject: Re: Phish and prayer:controversy!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 17:20:49 GMT

Reminds me of the pop version of the "lord's prayer" that came out in
the mid-late 70's (think hard, you might remember.)  
-joel
Tboot!
From: h7l@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Phish and prayer:controversy!
Date: 7 Sep 92 18:44:16 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

   Okay, controversy! Here goes:
   Just got a copy of 4-18-92 at Stanford, thanks Alex! I saw "Avenu Malkenu"
on the setlist and was amused and interested. I have just listened to the taspe
and am a little disturbed with it.  This was obviously a hot ashow, which took
place during the Jewish holiday of Passover. Avenu Malkenu is a prayer which we
Jewish pholk sing/chant/read at high holiday services. It means "Our father,
opur king" and it is a *(very serious* prayer. I am admittedly not the most
observant Jew, but this still bothered me.  Trey prefaced his guitar solo by
calling it a Passover solo. This further irked me. I don't religious refernces
but the humour is very touchy. I am not trying to be obnoxious or PC or
paranoid or anything, but it bothers me that my beloved band is, well, mocking
a prayer which is taken extremely seriously by those who say it. Even if the
guys in the band are Jewish, it still bothers me.
   What do y'all think? I would very much like to get serious and
well-though-out commentary on this issue.
Sarah
H7L@vax5.cit.cornell.edu  
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy)
Subject: Re: Sleeping Monkey
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:38:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.172343.17612@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> kassak@athena.mit.edu writes:
>
>Hey,  I was wondering if anybody knew anything interesting about
>Sleeping Monkey. It seems weird to me that Phish has been playing this
>sort of just OK (IMO) song as encores. Why do they like it so much? Is
>there something clever about it that I'm not really noticing? It just
>doesn't seem like a traditional Phish encore. I was really shocked at
>Portsmouth when they ONLY played it as the encore. Opinions?

I like it, but it is pretty short so I like it if they play something else
too :-).  Anyway it IS a clever song... the "Let It Be" jam at the end
is really cool and always stirs that recognition, and listen to the words
some time... it's a big double-entendre.

-- Jamie


-- 
James A. Treworgy
jamie@digex.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Dark Helmet <X53N%SLUMUS.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: 3/20/92 b-day wish
Reply-To: X53N%SLUMUS.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:13:11 GMT

  In regards to your question on the birthday wish on 3/20/92 in
binghamton, it was me.  my friend passed a note up front without my
knowledge.  The hottest show i've heard/seen ever.  The mike's ->
sanity in the second set was the most intense thing I've ever
experienced.  All this on my birthday was too much to handle.  I've got
good quality tapes if anyone's interested... (Fire gets cut).

                                 mike b.
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Chip Rollinson <P3TJ@cornella.cit.cornell.edu>
Subject: Ithaca, 9-26-91
Reply-To: P3TJ@cornella.cit.cornell.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:52:07 GMT


    The venue for the 9-26-91 show was the State Theater on
  State Street here in Ithaca. It was not the Haunt as someone
  posted earlier. Yes, Phish has played the Haunt before, but
  not in the last two years. BTW, the 9-26-91 show was my phirst
  Phish show...it was an excellent show.

                             - Chip

    Coincidently, I believe that the Haunt and the State Theater are
      owned by the same person/people.

  "I don't care if Ned Flanders is the nicest guy in the world,
               he's a jerk, end of story!"   - Homer J. Simpson (D'oh!!)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish