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From: Srivaths.Srinivasan@psycho.fidonet.org (Srivaths Srinivasan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: (Re-post) URGENT Appeal: World Bank Funding of the Sardar Sarovar Proje
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 10:55:44 EDT
Organization: Psycho: The Usenet<->Fidonet Gateway of St. Pete Florida

Dear Mr. Adve:
While I applaud your motives I feel that if you feel that strongly against this project and are convinced that it should not be executed you should be back in India mustering ground swell support against it.  It is rather elitist of you to sit back here so many miles away from the actual scene and pass judgement on it when it won't affect you here.  Armchair quaterbacking is something which is rather easy to do.  
ThanX.


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From: sillander@cc.helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: RE: The final Back from India
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:01:48 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Before taking goodbye of this newsgroup I'll make a few things clear:
This dialogue between "asshole" (in every sense of the word) FREDRIK HERTZBERG
and the Superman was just a question of having laughs (although some of what the
latter said was true). It was almost as stupid as the rest of the "Back from
India" discussion. And it would be madness to keep it up. But, I'll stick to my
main point: somehow it really stinks this meaningless bussiness (while there
are people struggling to stay alive). And Indians should have more sense than
the shitty europeans.
             
             -Doctor Ruth
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu Mukherjee)
Subject: Tagore-Related Conference at Urbana-Champaign?
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin @ Madison, CS Dept.
Distribution: soc
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 05:21:06 GMT


Sometime back there was a posting on SCI regarding some Tagore-Related
Conference in Urbana-Champaign.  Could someone mail me that posting?  
A friend of mine is trying to find out more about the Tagore society in 
Urbana-Champaign.

Thanks.
-Shubu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: as@cs.brown.edu (Apratim Sarkar)
Subject: Re: Nobel Prize & IITs
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:22:52 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.223059.11764@menudo.uh.edu>, mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam
Ghosh) writes: 

|> Cutting all sarcasm aside I will put my two cents worth from my personal
|> experience.
|> 1. Facilities are definitely better even in an average U.S. university
|> than in India. But IITs do have comparable facilities i.e. not outdated.
|> 
|> 2. IITs are a BETTER place to get an UNDERGRADUATE education than in an
|> average institute in USA.
|> 
|> WHY?
|> Facilities do not teach you: The teachers and your peers do. In any average
|> institution it will be difficult to find a more talented peer group than the
|> IITs can provide.
|> 
|> The teachers here are more talented in their RESEARCH abilities but they do
|> not care to teach as teaching is not beneficial to their interest in any way.
|> They are all invoved in the mad rush for getting grant money.
|> 
|> 3. Any average university in USA is a BETTER place to get a GRADUATE education.
|> As talent is only necessary condition to do research. Facility and money are
|> absolutely necessary; both of these are in short suply in India.
|> 
|> Now if we do not try to mix apples and oranges maybe we can have discussion
|> instead of white noise and name calling.
|> 

Very well said!! Somebody is talking sensibly at last!

|> Arindam
|> (an IITian )-: )

Apratim
(another one :-))
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From: bkotecha@cix.compulink.co.uk (Bipin Kotecha)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: No subject
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:11:13 GMT
Reply-To: bkotecha@cix.compulink.co.uk

> TITLE: $400 21 day air pass
> 
> I understand that Indian Airlines has a $400, 21 day pass allowing
> unlimited usage.  I would appreciate any comments on whether this is
> worth the money, whether there is a problem actually getting reservations
> on flights, etc.  Thanks.
> --
> Alok C. Nigam
> (703) 883-6751
> nigam@mitre.org


I toured India in 1988 using the 21 day pass and must admit although
I had doubts about reservations, overbookings, timekeeping etc. I
found the whole system to operate fairly impressively!

I believe the pass can only be acquired overseas in conjuction with
an international ticket to India. (I think you had to travel Air
India in those days but this restriction may no longer apply.)

Before departing my travel agent obtained a coupon via Air India.
This was taken to the Indian Airlines offices in Dehli (our first
port of call). We had already constructed an itinenary using
schedules the travel agent had.  The ticketing clerk processed this
but changes had to be made because schedules had changed.  The whole
process took more than 2 hours from waiting to be served to getting
the tickets for each flight.

We used to turn up at the airport, check in and off we went!  I can
only recall one delay and that was at Madras but this was due to the
early morning fog (so they said!).  There was no need to reconfirm.

I hope this is of use!


%4


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From: rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Can a girl and a guy be just friends
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:05:14 GMT
Reply-To: rgm4@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Raghuram G Murtugudde)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <71046@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt9911a@prism.gatech.EDU (SMILE :-)  :-)) writes:
>just be friends or is it true what people say in India " A girl and a guy
>can never be just friends". I would like to know the opinions of different
>people.                                        
>
>Sundar 


 What is important is after the girl and guy cease to be "JUST FRIENDS", one
 of them should start issuing denials of all kind to everybody he/she comes
 across. If there is a juicy story associated with the break-up then it will
 add to the credibility of the denial of whatever is being denied. Most
 probably denials should be spread for all anticipated rumors of goings
 on between these "JUST FRIENDS". People are going to talk about them
 during the phase of "JUST FRIENDSHIP" and then when things go sour for
 whatever reason, the same people will beat their chest and say, 'Ah, ha.
 I knew something was going on.' 

 So, the question is never whether a girl and a guy can be just friends, but
 how they handle the associated public perception. Nobody will ever know 
 exactly what goes on between "JUST FRIENDS" if they are of opposite sex
 or even the same sex for that matter.

 Raghu

 PS: I deny having anything to do with the above posting and I was always
     "JUST FRIENDS" with everybody I know.
From: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ** Any cheap LONG DISTANCE company ?? **
Date: 16 Oct 1992 17:21:01 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
Reply-To: prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.140.191
Keywords: phone, longdistance

In article <ved.719183334@procyon.cis.ksu.edu.cis.ksu.edu> ved@cis.ksu.edu (V-Cube!!!) writes:
>		Please let me know through mail whether there is any
>	long distance company that I can use for calling India and 
>	which charges me much less than MCI (which is my present company),

	Er..... if you're in New York sometime, check out the
	Port Authority Bus Terminal Telephone Service, or even the
	Grand Central Station Telephone Co. You can't beat their rates!!

	Just kidding........

	Now that I have your attention,
		Does anyone have info on taxes ?? (yeah, it's that time of 
	the year again) Specifically, what are the legal options to minimize 
	taxable income if you're single, renting your house, and on H-1 ??

	Are there any tax related newsgroups ?? I tried misc.taxes, but
	didn't get what I wanted there...... Uncle Sam grabs about 30% of my
	paycheck in income tax alone, and I don't like it very much.....

	Prem!
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====         "Give a man a fish, and you can feed him for a day.            ====
====          Teach him to fish and you can tax him for life !!!"           ====
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From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: Looking for ILLIADS
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:53:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath) said:
:- Am looking for ILLIADS

	try saravana bhavan... they make some really soft terrific stuff
	and the sambhar and chutney have to be tasted to be appreciated!

	oops!!! thats idlis!!! :( sorry!

	peace,

	- ravi

	ps: btw, cool username!


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From: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: ARRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!! ( was Re: Abuse of Usenet Privileges)
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:44:18 GMT
Reply-To: ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In article <18763.2addc553@ecs.umass.edu>, rajain@ecs.umass.edu writes:
|>    My dear Ravi (hey! you know Doki personally ?) :

	yes :( why do you think i make all these kinds of pathologically
	deranged posts!

	peace,

	- ravi


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From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: MORE ABOUT INDIA / INDIAN WOMEN ARE TREATED FAR BETTER THAN HERE.
Date: 9 Oct 1992 03:52:34 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1992Oct9.010231.28859@cis.ohio-state.edu> chandra@cannelloni.cis.ohio-state.edu (B Chandrasekaran) writes:
>In article <1b1mghINNlj5@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu) writes:
>........
>>there is a woman being raped here in the U.S.. As well as the fact that in
>>every 5 minutes there is a child dying of starvation here again in U.S..
>>
>This amounts to about 100,000 children dying of *starvation* per year. 
>Where did you get this statistics?  Pl cite a reliable source.

These statistics are on a banner released by the American Society For Healthy 
Eating which is an organization that advocates things like vegetarianism, and
other things like stopping the rearing of cattle for slaughter.

Regards,
Vivek.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: janand@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jayaraman Anand)
Subject: Re: SOME DOKI JOKES
Keywords: jokes
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:46:31 GMT

In article <1aveiiINNhdv@bigboote.WPI.EDU> sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki) writes:
>jayaraman anand said:
        ^^
>
>>what's worse than people who are kidding ?
>>People who are not sure whether they are kidding or not .
>>P.S. I am not kidding. Really.
>>J Anand.
>
>
>hey why don't you give up?
>
>
>its high time you do it.
>
>suresh

Since when did you start deciding for others ?

Anyway, one more for you.

What's worse than directing others to do something ?

Unable to arrive at a decision for your own self.

P.S. Doki(ulu), why don't we correspond on SCIT ? We could use some
low level language.

J Anand.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: atri@eecs.umich.edu (Atri Indiresan)
Subject: Prof. Indiresan's visit to the US and Europe
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:27:44 GMT


Profs. P.V. and Jaya Indiresan will be in the US and Europe for a few
weeks. They would like to use this opportunity to get in touch with
former students, IITM, IITD alumni, and others who might be
interested. I am attaching a copy of their proposed itinerary. Please
get in touch with me for any further details.

Atri

               Proposed Itinerary

Friday Oct 23		Lv Delhi
Saturday Oct 24		Ar U of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Friday Oct 30		Lv Ann Arbor
Friday Oct 30		Ar Stanford
Wednesday Nov 4		Lv Stanford
Wednesday Nov 4		Ar Tucson
Thursday Nov 5		Lv Tucson
Thursday Nov 5		Ar Rice U, Houston
Sunday Nov 8		Lv Houston
Sunday Nov 8		Ar Carnegie-Mellon, Pittsburgh
Friday Nov 13		Lv Pittsburgh
Friday Nov 13		Ar Temple University, Philadelphia
Monday Nov 16		Visit UNDP New York
Tuesday Nov 17		Visit U of Baltimore
Wednesday Nov 18	Visit Temple U
Thursday Nov 19		Lv USA
Friday Nov 20		Ar Berlin, Germany
Monday Nov 21		Visit German Develoment Institute
Tuesday Nov 22		Visit Technology Development Centre
Wednesday Nov 23	Visit The Institute of Advanced Study
Wednesday Nov 24	Lv Berlin
Thursday Nov 25		Ar Delhi
From: rxu2@po.CWRU.Edu (Rizwan Ullah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Looking for...
Date: 13 Oct 1992 21:51:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Hi! I am looking for a guy by the name of Anuj Mathur.
He graduated from Aligarh Muslim University, INDIA with
a B.Sc in Mechanical Engineering in 1991.
I think that he is in TEXAS A&M University with the 
Department of Aerospace Engineering/Mech. Engg.

Thank you.

This is Rizwan Ullah of the 1992 batch ELECTRONIX ENGG.
From: kavuri@lips1.ecn.purdue.edu (Surya N Kavuri )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Indian women and men
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:44:03 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1bmjn0INNf2i@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> >  Hang loose
> what does this mean? i am new to this country you know!
> 

Ok, I'll simplify this one for you.  Hang.

While you are getting acquainted, keep dropping by your
near and dear McDonald because who knows ...

you may see  a parched me getting a cup o' ...

> >  Surya
> 
> 
> suresh

Surya
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aksimha@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Gerd Von Rundstedt)
Subject: One way to make the debates more interesting. (NOT!!)
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:57:52 GMT
Distribution: us
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA



         Been watching the debates lately and noticed that they lacked the
         essential ingredient to keep the viewers engrossed. Compared to
         the real thing, one probably found the Saturday Night Live debate 
         worthwhile. Schadenfreude?
              None of them underlined the enormous implications that their
         Hillybilly backgrounds would have in the New World Order. Y'all
         don't agree on everythin' , see?
              With the minds of the enlightened, my roommate and I embarked 
          on making the format more interesting. Why not, we asked, make
          the debates more sensible by bringing back the competitive spirit.
          

         THE FORMAT:  Turn the debates into a JAM session.
                      JAM= Just a Minute (as if y'all dunno)

       
        IMAGINE: Topic  = Economy
          
      Perot: We cannot look forward to the future with the existing economic
             policies, see..

      Bush : Objection..Pause..
      Moderator: Sustained. Pr Bush you have 55 seconds to talk about "The
                 Economy", starting NOW!

      Bush: < Pause> .... <Pause>.... <Pause>.......< Duh>..
      Clinton: Objection
      Moderator: Sustained. Mr. Clinton...You have 52 seconds to talk about
                 "The Economy" starting NOW!
      Clinton: Back in my home state of Arkansas we have a grocery store
               called "The Economy" owned by a person who represents the
               John.Q.Public sort of fellow..
      Perot: He paused
      Clinton: No, I didn't I just inhaled!

 
 ----and so on---- Carry on from here----- 
          

        Btw, isn't SCI getting more and more ridiculous?               

  
      Arun Simha

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From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,wpi.students.desis
Subject: Re: Can a girl and a guy be just friends
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:10:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: bigboote.1bnekgINN5qd
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, lal@cs.arizona.edu (The Morning Sun) said:
:- you left me
:- i left you
:- i dont remember
:- my sweet
:- only the taste
:- candy
:- baby
:- I dont remember
:- you
:- at all
thayanantha be p


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From: shiva@vela.acs.oakland.edu (SHIVAKUMAR C. BETTADAPURA)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Info regarding, Multiple H-1...
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:07:17 GMT
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.


	I have a friend who had been recently to Qubec for Multiple H-1,
as they were giving out visa in one day but came empty handed as they have
changed their policy(now it is 3 days) from sep 30.
	Is there any one on net who can let me know about a place(in cannada
or mexico), where it is possible get multiple H-1 in one day.
	In the worst case he is planning to go India and apply from there,
can anybody throw some light on this.

Thanx...
shiva@vela.acs.oakland.edu

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sphanda@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (surinder.phanda)
Subject: Re: WITHER PATRIOTISM ?
Summary: ....More about India
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:34:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.223436.19533@news.clarkson.edu>, rajat@sunny1.che.clarkson.edu (Rajat Kapoor) writes:
> 
> 
> Nothing can be more tormenting for me than the statement:
> 
> "... given the social conditions in India, I'll never go back... "

Would you?? The fact is, a lot of Indians do actually choose not to 
go back.....

> 
> A pathetic statement coming from a person, born and nurtured in
> India... 

Why? surely to talk from experience is the best example.

> 
> It is fine ( and healthy ) to question our social
> values, criticize and deplore evils... but to slander and 
> malign the country as inhospitable, is a terrible thing to do...

To some it does appear inhospitable - you have to accept that.

> 
> No self-respecting native can ever stab a country like that !

Why ever not?? Just because you are a native of a particular country
does not mean hard hitting truthful facts about it cannot be raised....
Take off the rose tinted glasses please!

> 
> If one were to read between the lines of the utterings of such
> believers, the message is "India and those who choose to live
> there are damned... doomed to live in a cesspool of misery...! "

Well, are'nt they?? The MAJORITY (who do not have the comforts or haven
of a Western country) do live in a "cesspool of misery". They don't
have the luxury of making tough decisons about which private school
to send their kids.... or whether to change jobs and move into 
another (luxury) home....etc..

> 
> Indeed, some people are brought up in an family environment that
> preaches insensitivity to the populance, and that "this hell"
> is an incidental foster country, expendable at first opportunity.

I doubt if any family has time.....they are too busy surviving.

> 
> I love India, because I have lived there as an Indian..., and
> I've an ancestary to be proud of... I like Indians a lot more
> than anybody else, because we think alike, we feel alike,and we live
> alike. 

I love India too, but Snap out it. India has changed a lot (much of it 
for the worst) since the days of the "ancestary" you're talking about. 
Of course there are similarities between Indians, but don't turn 
us into clones!    

> 
> US is a foster country, made great by people who adopted it. The first
> generation immigrants never abondoned their country, they revered it.

The U.S has always been considered a country of opportunity. It's where
a lot immigrants dreams came true, and continue to come true....
People did'nt abandon it because it did so much for them. Unfortunatley
the same is not true of India. Just look at the lines of people at
foreign embassies waiting to get out .....

> 
> On a personal side, I'll never take a woman who disvows her native
> land as my wife. Can't be trusted in life...

So you want an obedient woman that agrees with everything you say
and "knows her place" - typical!

> 
> Rajat Kapoor 

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