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From: giordano@tamaro.cscs.ch (Silvia Giordano)
Subject: X Window Security
Organization: Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico / CH-6928 Manno
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:45:58 GMT

Hello folks.
I would like to get your opinions and experiences about X Window
traffic. We are receiving many requests to open X Window traffic in
unrestricted way. The opinion of the Network&Security group at
our Supercomputer Centre is that this represents a definite security 
hole since X Window is not considered to be a safe product (e.g. use
of not privileged TCP ports, weak X11R4 security design and so on).

Could someone give me more info on X Window System security? I read the 
tutorial by Dennis Sheldrick and explained the above well enough for me, 
but I don't know any X installation filtering X access for security.
Isn't there an X-Window technical conference on security topic? 
Isn't there anyone having experiences with X Window System security?
What is the policy implemented at your centre? Did you have negative
experiences with unrestricted X Window traffic?

 
Thanks for any answer.

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                                        Best Regards.

                                                  Silvia Giordano
                                                Network Coordinator
                                     Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico
                                    Via Cantonale CH-6928 Manno (Switzerland)
                                     Tel: +41 91 508213  FAX: +41 91 506711
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From: ware@organ.cis.ohio-state.edu (Peter Ware)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: Kills from Window Manager
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:32:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: organ.WARE.92Jul23123247
Organization: Ohio State Computer Science
Originator: ware@organ.cis.ohio-state.edu

In article <1992Jul18.132220.18254@thunder.m> mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu writes:

   In article <1460adINN77b@early-bird.think.com>, barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:

   > "Send Delete" is presumably bound to f.delete, which invokes the
   > WM_DELETE_WINDOW protocol.  Well-behaved applications should
   > implement this protocol; see the ICCCM for details.

   If an application would simply exit when asked to delete its window,
   and it has no requirement for user interaction during its cleanup
   operations, if any, I see no reason why it should bother participating
   in WM_DELETE_WINDOW.  (I suspect this is a fairly large class of
   applications.)  Do you see any such reason?

Because to avoid the current error message you'd use an I/O error
handler that blithely ignores lost connections and just exits.

--pete
--
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           ware@cis.ohio-state.edu
           (614) 538-0965
Too bad the Nike slogan isn't "Just Do It Right" instead of "Just Do It"
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: joe@athena.mit.EDU (Joseph C Wang)
Subject: Tk Interface to the World Wide Web (ALPHA Release 0.1)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 14:03:11 GMT

I've uploaded a very preliminary interface to World Wide Web using the
tk toolkit to export.lcs.mit.edu and the tcl archive in
barkley.berkeley.edu.

tkWWW Version 0.1 alpha (joe@athena.mit.edu)
--------------------------------------------

This a first pass at a browser for World Wide Web using the tk
library.  It is very buggy.  Use at your own risk.

The Tk browser has the following advantages.

1. Since the entire user interface is written in an interpreted 
   language, it should be very easy to make modifications and extensions
   to the system.

2. More important, it is possible to imbed Tk code into hypertext
   documents.  To see an example of this, load in the hypertext file
   file:$pwd/Tcl/text2.html


INSTALLATION
------------
In order to install tkWWW you will need

   The code for the WWW line-mode browser. (anon ftp from info.cern.ch)
   Libraries for tk and tcl (I'm using tk2.1 and tcl6.3)

   A wish intepreter which contains the Hyper and XYGraph widgets

To install this program, unpack the WWW line-mode browser source and 
cd to the directory WWW.  Unpack this tar file. 




Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: kvcg2847@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kyle V. Camarda)
Subject: X11R5 Build Problem (help)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:38:23 GMT
Keywords: build, OS3.5

         I am attempting to build X11R5 on a Sun 3/50 running OS3.5
	 and am having difficulty.  I set the sun.cf file to
	 OSmajorversion=3 and OSminorversion=5, and used the 
	 bootstrapcflag "DNOSTDHDRS".  I also set the site.def file
	 to place X11 in a different directory then the default
	 directory.  The sun.cf file states that building under
	 OS3.5 may not work with that bootstrapvalue, but doesn't
	 give an alternative.  Are there other files which need to
	 be edited (as hinted at in the release notes, but not
	 explained), or do I have a different problem? The world.log
	 file I get states
	     Make: Don't know how to make world. Stop.
         Sounds like a fairly basic error to me. Thank you for any
	 suggestions, and please reply only by e-mail, as I do not
	 usually read this newsgroup.
				    Kyle V. Camarda
				    kyle@turing.scs.uiuc.edu
From: mshah@ece.arizona.edu (Munil A. Shah)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: X11R5 installation problem..
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:00:44 GMT
Reply-To: mshah@ece.arizona.edu (Munil A. Shah)
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering


	I have compiled and installed X11R5 here.  While testing, when I 
start x windows by xinit I can not load certain fonts. In my .Xresources
I have specified courR14,courR12 etc. fonts. But  during xinit it can load
these specified fonts, so uses the default fonts. 
	Can someone help me?

Munil
From: marcello@deis16.cineca.it (Marcello Dalpasso)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Using the NonRectangular Window Shape Extension
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:35:50 GMT
Organization: *********************************************************

Hi netters,

I should implement an X application displaying a rectangular map divided in
many (actually about one hundred) nonrectangular zones.

The zone boundaries are non-orthogonal lines.

The application should get zone-enter/leave mouse event, and clicking.

The only solution I have figured out is to use the NonRectangular Window Shape
Extension provided by MIT X11R5.

Is it feasible?
Is it the unique solution?

Any help by skillful programmers?

Thanks in advance, please reply by e-mail and a summary will be posted.

-- 
	Marcello Dalpasso (e-mail: marcello@deis16.cineca.it)
	D.E.I.S. - Department of Electronics and Computer Science	
	Viale Risorgimento 2, I-40136 Bologna, Italy			
	Phone: +39-51-644-3015 (fax: +39-51-644-3073)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: da188@city.ac.UK
Subject: Re: Using xdm
Reply-To: da188@city.ac.uk
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:32:25 GMT

>:0 Local local /usr/X11R5/bin/X

Shouldn't there be a :0 on the end of that or doesn't this matter?

>> What does the manuaql page for xdm say?
>
>I read several times, but I could not find the solution...

What about Xsession and the other shell scripts mentioned in the xdm
manual page?

>How do you have "/etc/ttys" configured, when starting X using xinit?
>
>I suspect that the problem is related to this!

I haven't tried this - has anybody started X like this? What I'm unsure about is
whether you have the remote displays bootup and run an X server or whether you
have something else manage this at the remote display end?


Aj.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,alt.sources
From: meissner@osf.org (Michael Meissner)
Subject: Re: XPaint 2.0 Beta 2 Release Information
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:46:17

In article <1992Jul28.043710.11803@cs.ucla.edu>
william@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (William Cheng) writes:

| When I try to compile this on a SPARC running SunOS 4.1.1 with version
| 2.2.2 of gcc, I get the following error messages when compiling Options.c:
| 
|   gcc -g -ansi   -c Operation.c 
|   In file included from Operation.c:18:
|   /usr/include/stdlib.h:18: conflicting types for `abort'
|   <built-in>:0: previous declaration of `abort'
|   /usr/include/stdlib.h:26: conflicting types for `exit'
|   <built-in>:0: previous declaration of `exit'
|   Operation.c: In function `OperationInit':
|   Operation.c:201: warning: assignment makes integer from pointer without a cast
|   Operation.c:222: warning: passing arg 3 of `XtAddCallback' from incompatible
|       pointer type
|   make: *** [Operation.o] Error 1
| 
| The only line I changed in Makefile is to add 'CC=gcc'.  What am I doing
| wrong?  Thanks in advance!

Gcc knows about a number of functions builtin type (exit and abort
among them).  I suspect that GCC and stdlib.h disagree about the
types.  You can use the -fno-builtin switch to disable all builtins
(note you need to use at least 2.2.2, since the behavior of
-fno-builtin in previous releases did not affect exit and abort).  You
might also want to complain on the gcc bug mailing lists.
--
Michael Meissner	email: meissner@osf.org		phone: 617-621-8861
Open Software Foundation, 11 Cambridge Center, Cambridge, MA, 02142

You are in a twisty little passage of standards, all conflicting.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: edb@scic.intel.com (Edward Bunch)
Subject: Correct way to Set DESTDIR?
Originator: edb@rs069.scic.intel.com
Keywords:  DESTDIR 
Organization: Intel SCIC, Beaverton, OR
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:25:26 GMT

What is the accepted way to set DESTDIR. I can't modify the Makefile to
include it since imake will come along sometime and nuke my changes. Other
files that have potential of fixing this say they shouldn't be changed.

I have already fumble fingered once and had to restore some files
because X installed where it wasn't supposed to go. If I have this
problem, what's the poor shmo that comes along after me (and desides
"make install" is a good thing to type) going to do.

To sum up: Do I really have to type "make install DESTDIR=/blahh" every
           time I need to install?

		Ed
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: ng@ee.tamu.edu (Kit-Tong Ng)
Subject: memory buffer full?
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:56:35 GMT

Howdy:

Hope that some kind soul out there can help me up with the
following error message:

The message pop up in a dialog box and refused to quit untill I 
explicitly killed the process:

> Insertion failed - 
> The memroy buffer is full.
> If this is an isolated case, you can cicumvent
> this condition by unloading the operation you just
> performed, storing the contents of the subwindow
> to a file using the text menu, and then redoing
> the operation.  Or, you can enlarge the size of 
> this buffer by changing the appropriate value in 
> the .Xdefaults file (Text.MaxDocumentSize).

What I was trying to do was:
> strcpy( cLine,"\n[ Xpos, Ypos ]:  Status of tree\n\n" );
> textsw_replace_bytes(DspTabularTxtWnd,0,TEXTSW_INFINITY,cLine,strlen(cLine));
> for( cnt=0; cnt<Len; cnt++ )
> {
>     strcpy( cLine," " );
>     sprintf(cXpos,"%5d",tmp[cnt].Physical_x);
>     sprintf(cYpos,"%4d",tmp[cnt].Physical_y);
>     sprintf(cStage,"%4d",tmp[cnt].stage);
>     strcat(cLine,cXpos);  strcat( cLine, ",  ");
>     strcat(cLine,cYpos);  strcat( cLine, ":  ");
>     strcat(cLine,cStage); strcat( cLine, "\n" );
>     textsw_insert( DspTabularTxtWnd, cLine, strlen(cLine) );
> }
> strcpy( cLine, "\n|****************************|\n");
> textsw_insert( DspTabularTxtWnd, cLine, strlen(cLine) );

what bug me is that the error msg will not appear if the number of 
text displayed ( i.e. numerical value of Len ) is small.

Is there any way I can solve this problem??
Thanks in advance.

Have a good day.

kit@Napolean.tamu.edu
STARR Laboratory
Department of Rangland Ecology and Management
Texas A&M Unviersity
College Station, Tx 77843-2126
(409) 845-1553.



Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: maassen@kreon.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Andreas Maassen)
Subject: WANTED: xtdl sources
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 27 Jul 92 08:54:43 GMT

There has been an announcement for xtdl (X_To_Do_List) recently,
but I missed the sources. Can anybody please tell me where I
can find the sources?

Andreas
(maassen@parsytec.de)
From: mam70@ccc.amdahl.com (Michael Musta)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Help with SPACEBAR
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:37:23 GMT
Reply-To: mam70@juts.ccc.amdahl.com ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

I have written an application that uses the OpenLook toolkit and it has
one annoying problem I would like to eliminate.  When the mouse pointer
is over any of my oblong buttons and the keyboard's spacebar is pressed,
the button gets selected and generates a callback--even if my application's
window is inactive. How do I disable/ignore the spacebar key binding? 
I am currently using a callback routine for an XtNselect on my oblong buttons.

                                                ---Thanks in advance
From: bob@snuffy.dracut.ma.us (Bob Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: problem installing X on a SUN
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:56:21 GMT
Organization: Somewhere in Dracut Mass

synchem@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Synchem proj acct) writes:

> s4-75g.2 cd clients/xterm
> s4-75g.3 make
> rm -f charproc.o
> cc -c -O -pipe   -I../../.       charproc.c

> /: write failed, file system is full
> compiler(iropt) error:	write_irfile: No space left on device
>  
> *** Error code 1
> make: Fatal error: Command failed for target `charproc.o'

> Note that the file system containing the X11R5 is not really full.  As
> ...

The c compiler uses /tmp to store temporary files, that's what's happening
to your root file system.  You can change this behavior is you add the option
-temp=/usr/tmp or some other temp directory that it can have free run of to
the same place where -pipe is...  Which leads me to a confusion, I thought
-pipe would prevent /tmp from growing, although I've never used that option,
apparently it doesn't...

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: uejiowh@dssv01.crd.ge.COM
Subject: Re: ANNOUNCEMENT: New version of X11-only AnswerBook docviewer available
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:30:50 GMT

What is AnswerBook?


Wayne Uejio             General Electric CRD   Disclaimer: opinions 
uejiowh@crd.ge.com      KWC-275                expressed are my own 
Office: 518-387-6441    P.O. Box 8             and not the company's
Fax:    518-387-7080    Schenectady NY 12301   opinion.
From: gk5g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Gary Keim)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: X and MIME based mail readers?
Date: 23 Jul 92 08:41:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.EePi4Z_00Vs9IrCos2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Excerpts from netnews.comp.windows.x: 17-Jul-92 X and MIME based mail
readers? vaisanen@joyds2.joensuu. (435)

> What are the public domain X Window based mail readers that can handle MIME?
> The platforms I'm interested in are SunOS 4.x (also Solbourne) and ULTRIX 4.x.

The Andrew messages program is MIME-compatible and works well on both of
your target platforms.

Gary Keim
Andrew Consortium
From: ccoprdg@prism.gatech.EDU (Drew Gonczi)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: X11R5 on RS/6000 (AIX 3.2)
Keywords: help
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:13:50 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I have X11R5 pl 11 running on a IBM RS 6000.  We are running AIX 3.2.

When I run startx (or xinit), the server starts, but nothing else 
happens.  After I kill the server (ctrl-atl-backspace), I see the message
that xinit cannot connect to server.

Any Ideas on what the problem is?


-- 
Drew Gonczi         
Operations Dept - Office of Information Technology
ccoprdg@prism.gatech.edu      
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: sriram@alka.tcs.com (Sriram Srinivasah)
Subject: Re: X: User simplicity vs code complexity
Organization: Teknekron Communications, Inc
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:15:53 GMT

In article <TPAQUETTE.92Jul23134924@gumby.ita.lgc.com>, tpaquette@ita.lgc.com (Trevor Paquette) writes:
> 
>    I was talking to a cohort at work and we got to the subject of X and how
>  many lines of code it takes to do things in X etc..
> 
>    I came up with "X is the perfect example of User simplicity is directly
>  proportional to code complexity." Do you agree/disagree with this statement
>  and why?
> 
>  To open up a window, create a button, attach a callback to that button
>  when pushed, released and held, while tracking the mouse, takes up a alot
>  of lines of code. (Granted that will take alot of lines in any GFX system
>  but most likely more in X then any other)
> 
>    To know X and all the in/outs of it takes about 8 700 page manuals (O'Reilly
>  & Associate) to learn. Is there ANYONE out there who knows EVERYTHING in
>  these manuals? X is difficult to learn to program with, basically because
>  you don't know where to start!! There are many calls that do basically the
>  same thing (XAllocColor vs XAllocColorCells).
> 
>    How big is X going to get? When will it stop getting bigger? Who created
>  this monster in the first place? Oh well.. back to those manuals..
> 
> --
> Name : Trevor Paquette       | Landmark/ITA             |   _\___ Fahrvergnugen
> Email: tpaquette@ita.lgc.com | Calgary, Alberta, Canada |  /     \____         
> Visitor from CyberSpace      | (403) 269-4669           | / G60       \        
> Renegade of Virtual Reality  | #include <disclaimer.h>  | \-O------O--/        

That is the reason you have widget sets, interface builders, tools like tcl/Wish,
Wcl etc. You don't *have* to start building stuff from scratch (using Xlib, that
is). I don't know the entire API of X - I develop Motif based stuff, and it is
not a frequent occurence that one goes out to Xlib. When I need to do so, I have
found that I have developed a fairly good sense for what to look.

There may be 8 700 page manuals of O'Reilly, but you don't have to read and know
all of it before you start developing. Read Douglas Young's book, for example,
and you probably don't need to know Xlib exists. Use Motif/Uil, and bring up
reasonable applications in 2 weeks.

Sriram
(sriram@tcs.com
From: bruce@ogicse.cse.ogi.edu (Bruce Jerrick)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: undefined symbol attempting to build X applications
Date: 25 Jul 92 06:36:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.40533
Distribution: world
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR


<Trying to build xgoban-1.0, i get the following symbols undefined from ld:
<   _get_wmShellWidgetClass
<   _get_applicationShellWidgetClass

I don't have a solution, just some input.  This appears to be a SunOS 4.1.2
'ld' problem; it doesn't happen if you use /bin/ld from SunOS 4.1.1 .
It also doesn't happen if you compile with -Bstatic .

When it does happen, the file is executable (normally when 'ld' has
undefined's, the file isn't made executable), and the one example I
tested (xclock) ran OK.

Anxiously awaiting a /bin/ld patch ...

        Bruce Jerrick
        Oregon Graduate Institute
        InterNet:  bruce@cse.ogi.edu
        Voice:     (503) 690-1157
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: mjo@ef2007.efhd.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Subject: Desktop managers for X
X-Disclaimer: Not an official spokesperson for Ford OPEO
Reply-To: Mike O'Connor <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
Organization: International Affairs, Overseas Engineering, "Fordz"
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:46:33 GMT


I know of three off the top of my head -- VUE, Looking Glass, and
X.desktop.  Are there any others?

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Xref: sparky comp.windows.x.apps:637 comp.windows.x.motif:5233
From: william@castle.ed.ac.uk (William Warburton)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Re: Looking for X-based/Motif newsreader and mail reader.
Date: 27 Jul 92 10:40:43 GMT
Reply-To: W.Warburton@ed.ac.uk
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service

In article <1992Jul25.152923.19420@cs.unca.edu>, mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
|> 
|> Is there a threaded X newsreader like this? That would be the 
|> ideal newsreader.

 Err, yes: xrn... Try setting the following resource:

xrn.sortedSubjects:     yes

	W.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps
From: jipping@cs.hope.edu (Mike Jipping)
Subject: Re: xvtdl compile problem on Sun 4.1.1: strftime
Reply-To: jipping@cs.hope.edu
Organization: Hope College
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:28:10 GMT

dhm2j@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Derek H. Miller) writes:

>I recently grabbed a copy of xvtdl from export.lcs.mit.edu and tried
>compiling it on a Sun 386i (running SunOS 4.0.3) and a Sun 3/60
>(running SunOS 4.1.1). It compiled without a problem; however the
>linker failed because it could not find a function called "strftime".
>This function is called 3 times (in routines in "create_windows.c" and
>"print.c") and the functionality is hard to infere simply from the
>arguement list (it obviously writes to a string the current time, but
>the formt string is not-obvious: "%A, %B %e, %Y"). Does anyone know
>what this function does? Better yet, does anyone have source code to
>this routine? Thanx in advance.

I have heard of this happening on Sun-3s and 386i's.  I have no idea
WHY it happens...but the routine strftime is always the culprit.  

Since XVTDL 3.0 is out, I think I'll try to remove that call for 
version 3.1.

  -- Mike Jipping
     Hope College Department of CS
     jipping@cs.hope.edu


Newsgroups: comp.windows.x.apps,comp.windows.x