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From: mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: River Runs...
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:11:56 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

Maybe this has been said before I'm not a regular on this group but,
Doesn't the promo for "A River Runs.." look remarkably like
"Prince of Tides" or is it just me I thought of this yesterday when
flipping throught the channels and seeing "The Way we Were" on.

Rai.
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING movie recently
Date: 20 Nov 92 23:06:50 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

In article <3221@nlsun1.oracle.nl>, gbradley@uks240.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley) writes:
> In article <john.722021022@spssig>, john@spss.com (John Przyborowski) writes:

> |>"Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer".
   
>     One of the most boring, disappointing films I've ever seen! 

A few weeks before renting this flick I was parked, alone, at night, in a
rest stop off of I-5 in California.  A replica of what I would come to
know as the Henrymobile pulled in a few spaces down.  In the front were
two dead ringers for the characters I would come to know as Henry and Otis.
Before the car comes to a complete stop the Otis look-alike leans out and 
yells "Hey, how's about $5 for some gas!". Yours truly burned rubber 
in reverse getting out of there.

Not a boring flick at all.

-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman
From: barb@ufycorp.Unify.Com (Barbara Kane)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: A RIVER RUNS THROUGH IT (SPOILERS)
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:06:44 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <1992Nov16.140912.1599@ms.uky.edu> fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>>A lot of bad people have been dead a long time, and many attempts have
>>been made to sanitize their images - that doesn't mean we have to
>>accept it.  I'm not judging the film but the story - which has been
>>adequately publisized. Unlike the Christian Fundamentalists you mention
>>I am not condemning studio heads or even Robert Redford for making
>>a skin deep movie.  I am condeming the story line - which is so
>>obviously different from the ugly reality McLean didn't choose to
>>face, or to allow the world to see.

IMHO, you are really missing the entire meaning.  The point of this film
was that there is a certain amount of beauty in almost everyone.  Norman
chose to remember the brother he loved, not the brother he lost.  I saw
no attempt to "sanitize" his image, he simply chose to show that his 
brother's life had value.

Barbara Kane                                             Unify Corporation
* Thus did Moses lead the Children of Israel out of Eqypt together with  *
* the Teenagers of Israel, the Adults of Israel, and the Geriatrics of   *
* Israel.      - Jeremy Pascall                                          *
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From: vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan)
Subject: Re: Anthony Hopkins
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:01:57 GMT

>>Would love to know of other movies he has been in.  Just rented "84
>>Charing Cross Road" which was nice.  And will be seeing "Dracula" at
>>some point.  Have seen "Silence of the Lambs".    Any suggestions/
>>reviews would be very welcomed.... thanks.

Anthony Hopkins was excellent in "Bounty", a movie about the book, _Mutiny on the Bounty_.  It's the one with Mel Gibson.  Great!!


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From: smmat@ukc.ac.uk (S.M.M.Al-Taher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Anthony Hopkins
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:59:22 GMT
Reply-To: smmat@ukc.ac.uk (S.M.M.Al-Taher)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <BxtIqu.3u2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> nancyl@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy Lellenberg Bentrup) writes:
>Would love to know of other movies he has been in.

From the actors list: 
=====================

Hopkins, Anthony
                84 Charing Cross Road (1986)
                All Creatures Great and Small (1974) (TV)
                Arch of Triumph (1985) (TV)
                Audrey Rose (1977)
                Bounty, The (1984)
                Bram Stoker's Dracula (1992)
                Bridge Too Far, A (1977)
                Bunker, The (????) (TV)
                Change of Seasons, A (1980)
                Chorus of Disapproval, A (1988)
                Dark Victory (1976) (TV)
                Dawning, The (1988)
                Desperate Hours (1990)
                Doll's House, A (1973/I)
                Elephant Man, The (1980)
                Freejack (1992)
                Girl from Petrovka, The (1974)
                Good Father, The (1987)
                Guilty Conscience (1985) (TV)
                Hamlet (1969)
                Howards End (1992)
                Hunchback of Notre Dame, The (1982) (TV)
                International Velvet (1978)
                Juggernaut (1974)
                Lindbergh Kidnapping Case, The (1976) (TV)
                Lion in Winter, The (1968)
                Looking Glass War, The (1970)
                Magic (????)
                Married Man, A (1984) (TV)
                Mayflower: The Pilgrims' Adventure (1979) (TV)
                One Man's War (1991) (TV)
                Peter and Paul (1981) (TV)
                Silence of the Lambs, The (1991) (AA) (GGN)
                Tenth Man, The (1988) (TV)
                To Be the Best (TV)
                Victory at Entebbe (????) (TV)
                When Eight Bells Toll (1971)
                Young Winston (1972)
                "Hollywood Wives" (1985) (mini)
                "Kean" (????) (mini)
                "Mussolini and I" (????) (mini)
                "QB VII" (1974) (mini)
                "War and Peace" (????)


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From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Not Enough Sucking on Keanu
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:52:45 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

The Wall Street Journal has BETRAYED me!  They said Keanu Reeves
spent 'most of the movie' trapped in a castle having the blood
sucked out of him by three nymphos.

He spent THREE MINUTES trapped in a castle having the blood
sucked out of him by three nymphos... (though the nymphos first
appear by rising up out of the sheets between his spread legs...)

*X*
(who remembers now that Keanu isn't a particularly gifted actor;
or, his voice is naturally 'over-actish.')
From: rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes
Date: 15 Nov 92 18:08:20 GMT
Organization: Banzai Institute

In article <1992Nov13.165354.7797@b8.b8.ingr.com>,
   anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:
> [whackity whack]
> The movie is a social commentary-satire, much in the vein of Huckleberry Finn or
> Gulliver's Travels. Rod Serling's script is a work of pure genius. Much of the

Ahem. Let us not forget that Mr. Serling had an excellent basis from which to
start, that being the book by Pierre Boulle in 1963...

Rich Travsky                  Division of Information Technology
University of Wyoming         rtravsky@corral.uwyo.edu
"We tottered together upon the brink of the fall. I have some knowledge, 
however, of baritsu, or the Japanese system of wrestling...I slipped 
through his grip..."  _The Return of Sherlock Holmes_
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From: courtney@sequent.com (Courtney Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: ALADDIN INSIGHT
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:07:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Nov19.000718.741
Distribution: na
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.


	You'll notice in your Aladdin offical movie soundtrack (you DO have
one, don't you? Oddly enough, I bought mine about a month ago, used [!]. I 
figure some DJ sold it to the USED shop.) that the voice of the peddler in the
 first two tracks is none other than "Bruce Adler". I, myself, am guilty of 
thinking Adler was Williams.
	Also, I noticed a discrpency of the names of the lead vocals for 
Aladdin and Jasmine and the names of the actors doing the voices. Confused?
I mean, I think Disney must've hired two Aladdins: Mr. Aladdin-who-just-talks-
alot and Mr. Aladdin-who-sings-big-songs. Mmmm..
	So you can check: Lead Vocals for Aladdin is Brad Kane, Lead Vocal for
Jasmine is Lea Solonga.
	
	For you non-Aladdin viewers, those afraid to wait in line for an hour 
to see a sneak preview with kids wiping mysterious fluids on your sweater, I'll
give you my official short review:
	Aladdin is, without a doubt, one of my favourite movies of ALL time.

-Courtney Powell

Prince Ali, yes it is he
but not as you know him
read my lips and come to grips with reality

...so Ali turns out to be mearly Aladdin!
Just a con, need I go on, take it from me!
His personality flaws, give me adquite cause, yadda yadda yadda...
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From: kaminl@rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Re: Dracula - Francis Ford Coppola
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 02:25:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.000759.28969@wam.umd.edu> kimy@wam.umd.edu (Yong-Mi Kim) writes:
>  Somebody else mentioned that
>watching this version of Dracula was like watching a Peter Greenaway
>film - I

Except that Greenaway gives thought to what he is doing, and also gives you
something to think about while you are "taking it all in". The problem with
BSD is that practically everything about it seemed gratuitous. Granted,
Coppola was working with an overworked piece of material-- so he probably
did his best to make it "different" and to distinguish it from the crop
of vampire flicks. But somewhere along the line, coherence, sincerity, and
emotion were left by the wayside.

This movie reminds me a lot of DUNE, but I feel that DUNE was better at
creating an evocative atmosphere for the viewer.

>In film, I believe Peter Greenaway and to some degree Ken Russell
>represent this latter aspect, where at times plot is irrelevant
>to the succession of images on screen and the atmosphere evoked therein.

I see we've used similar terminology! :)

>It is my opinion that those who were disappointed by Coppola's rendition
>of _Dracula_ were expecting a "newspaper" account, with some gory pictures
>thrown in, and instead got an artist's reinterpretation, the event
>filtered through the artist's vision.  

Well, this may be true in some cases; it's impossible to generalize. But it
seemed to me that the "artist's vision" had "filtered" out the emotive
capacity from the story. 

Sure, Coppola put some intriguing pictures up on the screen for us, but he
failed to convince me that his heart was in it (and the stale performances
didn't help matters much).
From: system@memalph.UUCP (Woody Harper)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Morphing in DRACULA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 09:14:40 MST
Organization: Memory Alpha BBS - Phoenix, AZ -

walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walker) writes:

> In article <1e8pr6INN9lm@agate.berkeley.edu>, peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (P wri
> >Coppola keeps talking about how he eschewed post-production effects for
> >in-camera effects to capture that "early cinema" feel... However, at the
> >end, when Dracula turns back into Vlad (thanks to the light of the Lord)
> >wasn't that a morphing effect? And if so, doesn't that throw out Coppola's
> >claim of not using high-tech sfx? (If it wasn't a morphing effect, then it 
> >was a series of dissolves, but the transformation seemed too smooth to these
> >eyes...)

This is the same effect they have used for almost 100 years in movies. 
Just a simple dissolve done with a little care.

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From: dbe2@dcs.exeter.ac.uk (David Bennett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Les Amants du Pont Neuf( sp?) -has anyone seen
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:26:14 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. - University of Exeter. UK

Has anyone seen this film, and could provide me w/ a "capsule" review.
(Stars/directed/plot)
I'm not bothered about a rating (too much). 

I saw the trailer of it, (It's French w/ sub-titles) and I thought it
looked interesting.  

Anyone??


Cheers

DJB

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From: eabu202@orion.oac.uci.edu (Virany Margaret Kreng)
Subject: Requesting Reviews
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:44:29 GMT

Hi people.  I'm interested in reviews of some movies, so if you have
got an opinion or two, I'd appreciate it if you e-mail them to me.  
I'd prefer somewhat long reviews... that is, somewhat longer than 
"Cool movie!" or "Sucked major."  Seriously.  

Thanx for your help!

MOVIES:
Paris, Texas
Tequila Sunrise
The Princess Bride
Ladyhawke
Hero

Five sounds good for right now, but expect five more next week or so.
Thanks again!

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From: prodger@leland.Stanford.EDU (phillip prodger)
Subject: Re: DAVID LYNCH\DUNE
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 18:55:35 GMT

I saw Dune for the first time in Hong Kong, where censors and 
money hungry distributors had cut the film down to an hour and
a quarter!

Made my head spin.

But, but...it didn't matter.  Sting rescued the film, man.

Hey, I heard that the original cut of the film was 7 or 8 hours
long, but cut down for general release.  The idea was after it
flopped to show it in its entirety for the arthouse crowd.

-Chompin' at the bit.
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From: dsc@gemini.tmc.edu (Doug S. Caprette Bldg. 28 W191 x3892)
Subject: Re: Malcolm X
Organization: NASA GSFC CDP VLBI
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:51:25 GMT

In article <92324.083557U28698@uicvm.uic.edu> <U28698@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>I just saw 'Malcolm X' yesterday at its opening in Hyde Park (Chicago).  Even t
>hough I've read every single word on or by this man (that I've been able to get
> my hands on), I was still absolutely absorbed in this film.
>
>About the fear of riotting, I went to see The Hunt for Red October at this same
> theater, and when I was leaving, a swarm of seemingly fifty people ran up to t
>he guys in front of me, and beat the HELL out of them (with weapons).  This did
>n't even make the local newspaper.
>
>On the other hand, I went to see New Jack City at THIS SAME THEATER, and when I
> was leaving, I guy got knifed, and this made NATIONAL NEWS.
>
>The media tells you only what they want to tell you.  Whether it's a race issue
>, or a ratings issue, or both I'm not gonna comment, but I think you know the a
>nswer.
>
>Do yourself a favor.  Watch this film.  You're NOT gonna get knifed or beaten.
> Spike Lee's too smart to let that happen.
>
>This is a beautiful movie.  Unlike JFK, it's 100% fact (unless, of course malco
>lm X is full of crap, NOT).  Unlike Gandhi, it's authentic and doesn't make any
> group of people seem evil.  Unlike Lawrence of Arabia, it includes reality wit
>h it's poetry.
>
>If you live in Chicago and are afraid to see this film.  Then tell me, I'll go
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>with you.  I'll watch this movie ten times if I can afford it.
 ^^^^^^^^
>
>Assalamu Alaikum.
>Omes.

Not at the same theater I hope!

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From: mpeever@uvphys.phys.uvic.ca (Mark Peever)
Subject: yet another on DRACULA
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: mpeever@uvphys.phys.uvic.ca
Organization: UVic, Physics & Astronomy, Victoria, BC
Distribution:  world
Date: 23 NOV 92 17:12:32    


 After all the postings on BSD, I just had to see it on the weekend. I guess
part of the appeal was that opinion was so divided on the film. Anyhow,
I guess my first impression was one of disappointment. My first bad impression
came when the young, gallant Dracula came into the chapel and dropped his
sword. Did anyone else see Elisabetra (spelling?) blink? Come on, Winona,
you're dead!
 The accents were pretty bad too. I'm afraid Keanu makes a better surfer
than he does a Victorian. I really thought they'd have been better off to 
leave him sounding American. Costner got away with it in Robin Hood.
 Okay, the fact that Dracula spoke to the female vampires in (presumably)
Romanian was a nice touch, and the greying of Harker's hair was not entirely
ineffective.
 But let's face it, if you're going to call a movie _Bram_Stoker's_Dracula_,
you should at least follow the book. I really thought that there were lots
of things in there that would have been foreign to Stoker, at least they
caught me by surprise, and I've read the book many times.
 I guess the real problem with the movie was that they tried too hard.
Had FFC just filmed the book, rather than rewriting the whole thing, it would
have made a better movie. What else can I say? Sometimes trying a bit
harder only makes it worse. 
 The movie was too deep for horror, too gory for romance, and too cheesey
to be taken seriously.
 **1/2 no more!

Mark Peever

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From: echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.postmodern,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Peter Greenaway
Keywords: macabre, michael nyman, dutch baroque
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:25:26 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

>Dante's Inferno never reached the US as far as I know. Has anyone seen it on 
video?
>Prospero's Books is his latest and his worst. It is terribley overbearing like
a spoiled child whose been given too much money and too many video cameras to 
do with as he pleases! I really enjoy his movies (although I admit that I 
almost got sick at the end of The Cook, etc.) but Prospero's Books was too, too
much! He's indulging too much.

> Doc
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From: awalsh@mta.ca (Andrew Walsh)
Subject: BSD did NOT SUCK!!!!
Reply-To: awalsh@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:23:32 GMT

I saw it on Saturday, and I must come to its defence. It did not 
deserve this unabashed hatred I've seen in people's reviews. i
would GLADLY shell out $8 to see it again. We're in a rut for good
movies, with mindless drek like Passenger 57 and Under Siege being
out. BSD took what seems to be the most faithful interpretation of 
the novel for the big screen. Yes, it was too much at times, like
the overly dramatic score and some of the special effects. But it 
was different. You can't pigeonhole it into "Horror" or "Drama" or
any other category, there was too much in it. It was flawed, but
so are a great number of classics. Don't let Anne Rice's interpretation
of vampires be the be-all-end-all for you. I loved the Vampire
Chronicles, but BSD was written WAY before those were. 

This is a GOOD MOVIE. Don't let people tell you it's a total waste
of money, go see it for yourself. And those of you who were distracted
by Keanu's performance, or anything else you didn't like, try it again
and ignore those problems. It's a visionary piece.

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From: kebarnes@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: ALADDIN, lightly salted & reviewed (no cholesterol, no spoilers)
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:50:00 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Nov16.041408.9972@tc.fluke.COM>, moriarty@tc.fluke.COM writes:

>PS. Just to satisfy curiosity (I missed it in the credits): who did the
>    voice of the narrator/peddler who opens the film?  Williams?

You betcha. Couldn't you tell?

"It makes jullienne fries!!"

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"I don't drink wine " -

        *pregnant pause*
        
    " and I don't smoke shit"

(George Hamilton to Susan St. James in Love at First Bite when she
 offers him a joint and a glass of wine.)
From: al194515@academ01.mty.itesm.mx (Juan Carlos Garcia Martinez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: al pacino
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:44:20 GMT
Distribution: rec

He sings it because he is the last killer. Remember he was affected by the job he was doing. He wore the cap and the letaher jacket. Althought the films could make you believe that the roommate of the last victim could have done, when he takes out a knife while fighting Pacino. Good movie. The Police Director realized that Pacino was the killer. 
Juan Carlos Garcia
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From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: Planet of the Apes
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:17:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.110820.322@news.uwyo.edu>, rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov13.165354.7797@b8.b8.ingr.com>,
|>    anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:
|> > [whackity whack]
|> > The movie is a social commentary-satire, much in the vein of Huckleberry Finn or
|> > Gulliver's Travels. Rod Serling's script is a work of pure genius. Much of the
|> 
|> Ahem. Let us not forget that Mr. Serling had an excellent basis from which to
|> start, that being the book by Pierre Boulle in 1963...
|> 
No offense, but if you've read the book I'd think it would only emphasize the
genius of Serling's adaptation. I read the book and thought it stunk. Really just
plain boring. Serling did much more with the idea in his screenplay. I think all
the best innovations were NOT in the book.

Anthony
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