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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: Road Warrior LD question (and LD catalogs)
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 05:41:18 GMT

In article <92279.154705SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET> Steve W Hill <SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET> writes:
>
>I was browsing through the laserdisc section of my local Camelot,
>and saw two different pressings of "Road Warrior".  Can someone
>tell me what the difference is?  One had chapter stops listed, the
>other didn't seem to.

The first was issued in 1986 (#1181LV), the second in September of 1991 
(#11181) beware the similar #'s.  YOU DO NOT WANT THE FIRST.  The
second one has digital sound, chapter stops, and a better (though not
definitive) transfer -a much better transfer, though still plagued with
video noise in dark areas.  The real problem is that this movie was
shot with the PANAVISION widescreen anamorphic process.  It desperately
needs to be issued in letterbox form (some scenes are vertically
squeezed rather than panned and scanned).  Many were surprised that the
reissue did not offer letterboxing.  Given that Warner is trying to
catch up on letterbox reissues this will probably appear in the future.
When is anybody's guess, especially since Warner is behind in their
announced reissues.

>Also: what is generally considered to be the BEST catalog of
>laserdiscs?  And, what are some good places to shop?  Camelot has a
>decent cutout section, I picked up "The Informer" for $10.

For a beginner I would highly recommend that you get on the mailing
list of Sight & Sound (617-894-8633) 27 Jones Road, Waltham MA 02154.
Their catalog is about the best single source of definitive info about
new and upcoming releases.  Over a period of time these can become a
treasure trove of info (but, alas, no overall index is available).
A very knowledgeable and efficient dealer with discounts varying from
good (10%) to great (25% in sales).  But the Camelot bin cannot be
beat if you know your discs.

The ONLY complete catalog is LASER VIDEO FILE. $4.95 in many stores
(including CAMELOT) or from LVF, P.O. Box 828, Westwood NJ 07675.

>And, finally, is there an FAQ for this group, or is there ever going
>to be a rec.video.laserdisc?

Some people think this is rec.video.laserdisc :-).  Contact Bob Niland
                             rjn@fc.hp.com
for his list of articles on laserdiscs.  He also has instructions on
how to reach some other lists for the group, via ftp at Yale.
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From: st1qp@Rosie.UH.EDU
Subject: Re: Alien SE
Reply-To: st1qp@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 08:20:37 GMT

In article <1a28vdINN3h6@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>Well less than a week til the Alien SE LD is out.... Anyone holding
>there breath yet?
>-- 
>                        Scott Streeter
>                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu

The set has been pushed back until October 7th, BTW. So I wouldn't start
holding it yet.

-Matt Tighe

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From: bengt@fires1.uucp (Bengt A. Palsson)
Subject: Re: New Star Wars transfer?
Organization: Svenska Popfabriken AB, USA div.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:19:00 GMT

In article <1ad9odINNble@bigboote.WPI.EDU> boisvert@yaya.WPI.EDU (Brian Richard Boisvert) writes:
>	I have heard that the soon-to-be released (November?) letterboxed
>VHS versions of the Star Wars movies are from a new, beautiful digital
>transfer that is much clearer than past video versions.
>
>	1)  Is this true?
>
>	2)  If it is, are there any plans to release a letterboxed 
>	    laserdisc set of this transfer?
>
>Thanks.
>-- 
>Brian R. Boisvert    Worcester Polytechnic Institute    boisvert@wpi.wpi.edu

Well, I've been thinking about this for a while after watching the premiere
of the Sci-Fi channel. Before they showed Star Wars, there was an animated
talking head saying something along the lines that the movie they were about
to show was a restored version that would soon be available for the "home
users" or something along those lines. Also while watching the movie there
seemed to be additional scenes in there that I don't remeber seeing in the
movie before. It was not letterboxed except for the opening titles, and
seemed to be second generation copy rather than a good quality copy.

Food for thought.


-- 
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From: ffoogg@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu (paco ojeda)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Criterion Prince of Tides--NO GO!!
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:27:20 GMT
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I just read in the latest Sight & Sound catalog that Criterion is not
releasing their version of Prince of Tides since it did not meet
Streisand's specs.

Any comments?

Paco

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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: Laserdiscs Promoted by Maltin/ Siskel & Ebert
Keywords: laser discs, movie reviews, television
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 04:13:29 GMT

In article <1992Oct05.153502.25510@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce, that's me) writes:
>The new '93 edition of Leonard Maltin's movie review book has added
>a marker indicating availability of a title on laserdisc.  He has a
>statement to the effect that even though laserdisc players only comprise
>4 to 5% of the market, laserdisc watchers tend to be movie fanatics
>(and presumably heavy users of a book such as his).

The above statement was from memory (never to be trusted).  Here is
Maltin's exact quote:

"Our video coverage has expanded this year to indicate which films
are available on laserdisc.  Admittedly, laser owners are a minority
group, compared to the multiple millions who use VCRs, but laser
people tend to be diehard movie buffs--connoisseurs, if you will--
and we wanted to acknowledge them, as well as the growing number
of films which are available in this state-of-the-art medium."

Hmmm...  laser people?   -must be very coherent folks :-)
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: New laserdisc releases from October LDN
Keywords: LDN
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:04:55 GMT

From the October issue of the Laser Disc Newsletter ($35 a year subscription,
PO Box 420, East Rockaway, NY 11518-4020):

Actually, not much.  They mention the BEAUTY AND THE BEAST controversy gone
over in this newsgroup (though nothing about the late '93 release).  And the
new version of THE ABYSS is mentioned.

Also: The Russian science fiction film SOLARIS is being released, in
letterbox, by Image.  Image is also releasing Greenaway's PROSPERO'S BOOKS,
but nothing is said about it being letterboxed.  (I remember much (all?) of
it was shot with HDTV video.  Anyone know what the aspect ratio was?)  In
the animation area, two more THE ADVENTURES OF ROCKY AND BULLWINKLE
collections (#5 and 6, respecitively) appear to be scheduled for Christmas
(this is getting to be a tradition, and a rather nice one at that.)  And
though it's not news, MGM/UA is releasing a multi-disc set called THE
COMPLEAT TEX AVERY.

The rest of it is taken up announcing all the big summer films (or films
that they *thought* were going to be big) released on video.  ALIENS 3,
LETHAL WEAPON 3, PATRIOT GAMES, FAR AND AWAY and BATMAN RETURNS are being
released in letterbox only.  SISTER ACT, ENCINO MAN, THUNDERHEART, UNIVERSAL
SOLDIER make no mention of letterboxed formats.  BASIC INSTINCT comes in
both, plus the Pioneer Special Edition (which I assume has a letterboxed
format, but I dunno.)

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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: New laserdisc releases from October LDN
Keywords: LDN
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:49:24 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <BvpDry.IKn@apollo.hp.com>, rehrauer@apollo.hp.com (Steve Rehrauer) writes:
> In article <1992Oct6.040455.15399@tc.fluke.COM> moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer) writes:
> [...]
> >(this is getting to be a tradition, and a rather nice one at that.)  And
> >though it's not news, MGM/UA is releasing a multi-disc set called THE
> >COMPLEAT TEX AVERY.
> 
> Any verbage on the contents?  I'd like to see what it includes that was
> & wasn't on the previous two Avery discs...

Well, every single ad I've seen describes it as what the title says,
a collection of ALL shorts Tex Avery directed.  Since this is a 5-disc
collection (or so I recall) it will have a lot of stuff not available
on the other discs you mention.

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Organization: William Rainey Harper College; Palatine, IL  60067
Date: Monday, 5 Oct 1992 15:47:05 CST
From: Steve W Hill <SHILL@HARPERVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Road Warrior LD question


Please bear with me, I just bought my LD player.
I was browsing through the laserdisc section of my local Camelot,
and saw two different pressings of "Road Warrior".  Can someone
tell me what the difference is?  One had chapter stops listed, the
other didn't seem to.

Also: what is generally considered to be the BEST catalog of
laserdiscs?  And, what are some good places to shop?  Camelot has a
decent cutout section, I picked up "The Informer" for $10.
And, finally, is there an FAQ for this group, or is there ever going
to be a rec.video.laserdisc?
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: The Birds LBX?
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:06:29 GMT

Does anyone know if there is a letterboxed version of Hitchcock's _The  
Birds_ still in distibution on LD? I'm prepared to assume Criterion did  
one, but that it was also mucho $$ (Over $60 ?). Any other versions?

Thanks in advance.

AK

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From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: The Birds LBX?
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:18:12 GMT

In article <15904@mindlink.bc.ca> Mike_Quigley@mindlink.bc.ca (Mike  
Quigley) writes:
>
> There never was a letterboxed version of The Birds...at least in North
> America (I don't know about Japan or elsewhere, it seems unlikely.)

Ouch. Bad deal. How can the scene with Tippi Hedren sitting on the park  
bench and the birds accumulating off to the side and behind work any other  
way?

AK
From: paco ojeda <ffoogg@macmailgw.dfci.harvard.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Criterion Prince of Tides--NO GO!!
Date: 28 Sep 1992 13:42:38 GMT
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In article <1992Sep27.205704.9333@nas.nasa.gov> Samuel A. Fineberg,
fineberg@win31.nas.nasa.gov writes:
>Yea, I think getting the directors approval is a good idea but it can be
>carried too far.  I hope this doesn't destroy Criterion (since I have
heard 
>they have a lot of copies in a wherehouse that they can't sell).  

Well, wouldn't THAT be a hot item to be a hold off...!! I wonder how many
copies of the movie were pressed by Criterion before Ms. Streisand
decided that the production was not (to quote a certain Saturday Night
Live skit) "buttery" enough...!!

Oh, well...

Paco

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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Laserdiscs Promoted by Maltin/ Siskel & Ebert
Keywords: laser discs, movie reviews, television
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1992 15:35:02 GMT

The new '93 edition of Leonard Maltin's movie review book has added
a marker indicating availability of a title on laserdisc.  He has a
statement to the effect that even though laserdisc players only comprise
4 to 5% of the market, laserdisc watchers tend to be movie fanatics
(and presumably heavy users of a book such as his).

Siskel & Ebert's weekly TV movie review show which aired in Cleveland
on the night of October 4, 1992 has added a new feature "Laserdisc Pick
of the Month" sponsored by Pioneer.  They made a short statement about
the superior quality of laserdiscs, etc. (Roger Ebert has promoted laser
discs for several years in his movie review book).  Oh yes, their pick
was THE MAMBO KINGS.

Gee, have we made it to the big time yet?

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From: t-k@jybox.jyu.fi (Timo Kokkonen)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Terminator LBX VHS
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 92 14:32:23 EDT
Organization: Jyvaskyla Electronic Mailbox

steinarb@idt.unit.no (Steinar Bang) writes:


> > advertisement for a "collector's edition" of Terminator and T2,
> > apparently VHS and letterboxed with some standard Jim Cameron
> > "making of" type goodies thrown in. Anybody have more info?
> 
> > From what I saw, it was going to be a limited edition, and run
> > about $50 for the set.
> 
> Anybody knows if the "Collector's editition" Terminator box will be
> available in PAL?

"Limited Edition TERMINATOR 2 in a steel box this set contains
The Terminator, Terminator 2, The Making of Terminator 2 and a Special
Effects Booklet" 

This set run about 30 GBP and is now available in UK (as far as I know).




-- Timo Kokkonen (t-k@jybox.jyu.fi)
From: WTS@HARVARDA.HARVARD.EDU ("WADE T. SMITH")
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: VIDEOTECH Digest V92 #863
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:23:37 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

re: lubrication-
Molybdenum grease.
Lubriplate.
Lithium grease.
Do not get on any rubber parts!!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: chrisp@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Chris Pelkie)
Subject: Re: 3D proposal for the under-construction HDTV standard
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:11:37 GMT



In article <579@chorus.chorus.fr>, mir@chorus.chorus.fr (Adam Mirowski) writes:
|> tlai@cs.toronto.edu (Tony Wen Hsun Lai) writes:
|> : In article <1992Sep25.003831.17660@javelin.sim.es.com> gold@imp.sim.es.com (Bruce Gold) writes:
|> : >|> 50 frames per second?  How about 60?  Easier on the eyes.
|> : >   For smooth motion perception, human vision gets along nicely with 24
|> : >   frames per second.  I offer as evidence, the last 35mm motion picture
|> : >   you saw at a movie theater.  For flicker-free viewing, human vision
|> : 
|> : 24 fps isn't really adequate, and has problems in areas of very rapid
|> : motion.  If motion blur is not used, a frame rate on the order of 1000 Hz
|> : is necessary to avoid motion artifacts.  If motion blur is used, a frame
|> : rate of around 80 Hz is necessary.  
|> 

|> : 
|> : >   requires AT LEAST 45 flashes per second.  That is one reason NTSC
|> : >   displays only 30 frames/second by painting 60 interlaced fields/second.
|> : 
|> : The display rate for flicker-free viewing in general depends on the
|> : brightness and size (relative to viewing distance) of the display.
|> 
|> It also depends on the point of the eye that receives
|> the image. If you look at a television image out of the
|> corner of your eye, you will notice a much stronger flicker
|> than by direct viewing.
|> 
|> -- 


To the person offering the evidence of 35mm film:
There's some confusion here. Film projectors are double-shuttered to jack
up the flicker rate to 48 flicks per seconds, otherwise, you'd not be
able to stand to watch film. This rate in fact just clears the flicker
fusion frequency for the average person, as is made clear later
in the original posting.
-- 
Chris Pelkie
Scientific Visualization Producer
Cornell Theory Center
Ithaca, NY 14853-3801
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From: kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: Joining Columbia House Laser Club
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:37:37 GMT

In article <BvnspK.1rp@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
>Your analysis only takes into account the first 5 discs. As time goes
>by, CH becomes less and less of a bargain. 

Quite possibly true, but not necessarilly. I haven't worked it out, but CH does
have quite a few sales that might give CH the edge if you are willing to buy in
patterns.

>                                                   CH also has a relatively
>limited selection of discs (no Criterions, for example).

No question about this.

>The real conclusion is to join CH, get three expensive discs and 2 $30 discs,
>then quit and buy everything else from Sight & Sound or Ken Crane's.

Or do whay I did. Don't quit, stay in and get a free disc every time you get
someone to join.

Michael

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                | lost in time - like tears in rain. Time to die.     Roy Batty
From: dgoodwin@hoops.West.Sun.COM (Dan Goodwin - Sun SSE)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Sony MDP-333 drawer opening problems
Date: 2 Oct 1992 17:19:47 GMT
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My player has the same problem.  I was told there is a spring that needs
replacing.  Let us know how to get hold of one.  I'd rather do the work myself
and save a few $ than spend $50-70 for labor to install a $3.00 part.
From: p3qx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: <None>
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:58:32 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

I would like to say that the company New West Electronics is a reputable
company to purchase audio/video components.
From: dcha@flex.com (Doug Cha)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Video dubbing enhancers
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 21:43:35 HST
Organization: Flex Information Network [Hawaii] 808.531.3539

   I tend to do a lot of VHS to VHS dubbing, and am wondering how 
effective those amplifiers are in keeping a stable picture.  I am usually 
copying off LD stuff (non copy protected stuff), and am considering 
buying a signal booster.

        Any suggestions?

    +------------------------------+
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From: fish@chips.EBay.Sun.COM (David Fishman)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: How to deal w/ dbl cable?
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:26:12 GMT
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Any suggestions on how to hook up a double cable (sides A and B) to
a 27EXR w/ only one RF input, and still be able to use the TV tuner's
auto channel selection feature?  I'm currently using the decoder box,
but will soon give it back.

fish