From: mwilkenf@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Missi Wilkenfeld)
Subject: Re: What do skinheads stand for/belive in?
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:21:49 GMT

king@meaddata.com (Mike King) writes:
>I was wondering if their was some common goal or ideal that skinheads
>believe in or strive for?  Just wondering.  Thanks

One of our two FAQs say:


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   F A Q     F I L E     F O R       A L T . S K I N H E A D S

Last Update:  4-5-1992
Maintained by Sid (ssowder@silver.ucs.indiana.edu)

Purpose:
  Alt.skinheads is a group designed to discuss the skinhead lifestyles
(including music, dress, upcoming events, etc...) as well as beliefs,
and issues which affect our community.  This is not a forum for
political debate, sure most of us have our beliefs but take them to
other groups to discuss.  Politics usually just aren't appropriate here.
When we are in a good mood we let Mods in.  
  
Whats a Skin?
  Well gosh we are still wondering about this ourselves right?
Umm there are several different varieties I suppose.  Lets see...

1) Ska Skins (or traditional skins)-  Most of us agree this is the original 
skin.  Typical dress is Fred Perry shirts, loafers, "Pork Pie" hats,
Italian suits etc....  Flight Jackets are a common sight now.  These folks 
appeared in England when Jamican immigrants bought over their mix of 
Rock and Reggae around 1967.

2) Oi Skins- A transitional breed between traditional skins and
boneheads.  Usually dress alot like the traditionals exchanging boots
with colored laces for loafers.  Braces and flight jackets are real 
populare here.  These folks are usually nationalists, but not to the
extreme of bonehead delusion.  Oi started back in the late seventies 
with bands like The Cockney Rejects, Angelic Upstarts, Red Alert, Slaghter 
and the Dogs, Barny and the Rubbles, Splogenesabounds (sp?) the Exploited and 
in the eightes came bands like The Last Resort, The 4 Skins, Buissness, 
Cock Sparer etc...
   Bands that inflence the Oi scene would be, Stiff Little Fingers, Sex 
Pistols, Madness, Specials, the Beat, the Jam, Motorhead. All types of music. 
It involves all types of music from Ska, Punk, Hardcore, Sing a long, Comedy. 
Its your typical working class have a good time type of music. 

3) Boneheads-  This is what ABC will have you believing all skins are.
This are hatebreeders who are white power or seperatists.  Cause alot of
striff in ANY scene and should be shot.  Swastica's and other bullshit 
follow, if you have any info on these tiny brained doo-doo heads let us
know. :)  Music could be any really... 

4) S.H.A.R.P. skins (SkinHeads Against Racial Prejudice)-  Okay these
guys (and gals) seem to be a bit hard and heavy.  Certainly always in
action, but tatics are to be questioned.  They don't seem to be to
selelctive with their violent methods.  This is really a cross-section
of Mods, Traditionals, Ois etc...

5) Other folks you might find in here.  Well Mods similiar to the
tradition skins. Good MOD bands are Television, the Kinks, The Who and
the Jam. Em says go watch QUADROPHENIA to find out more.  :)  Alot of
Punks floating around too, for more info on that join the punk list
(North America punk-list-request@cpac.washington.edu everywhere else 
punk-list-request@cs.tut.fi)  Concerned Mothers are another group that
pop up in here.  Frequent quotes are "My son just shaved his head...."
Little information is known about this creatures.  Lurkers- People who
have never posted but we know read this group.  Who knows why, lately we
have learned many joined to see if we were really racist nazis and stuck
around because they once heard a MADNESS song and didn't know how to
catagorize it... "Our house in the middle of the street...."

Racsim:  This group certainly isn't rascist and if you joined this group 
looking for info or literature concerning white-power or the such, call 
your local David Duke for President campaign headquarters.  Skinheads
were originally Jamican's and later white British who despite racial
difference enjoyed and bonded through their common love of the Ska sound.
What could be more anti-rascist(*question mark*)

Important Anti-racist addresses:

John Brown Anit-Klan Commitee
2220 9th Street #443
San Fransico, CA 94103
(415) 330-5263

A.R.A.
P.O. Box 87471
Minneapolis MN 55408

S.H.A.R.P.
P.O. Box 56956
Sherman Oaks, CA 91413

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Phew finially some information about things discussed recently:

Madness is appearently getting back together with the ORIGINAL line up.
Television is also getting back together, line up unknown.
Best places to by your Doc Marten's?  
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ANSWER:

You asked where to get Doc Martens....well, where I get all of my shoes
is at Nana's in SF.  They also have a mail order catalog.  But if you
are in SF [they are also in Santa Monica, and probably in NY, I don't 
know] pick some up....adn if you are really lucky as _I_ was [feeling a
bit superior ha!--naah just lucky since I only stay in SF 3 weeks out of
the year, during the summer.] you may catch their sales...and when I say
sale I mean sale!! 

Some boots that I paid 55 bucks for [120 bucks in Hawaii--shipping charges?
I think not...just damned greedy] the year before - and were still regular
prices when I arrived in SF - were suddenly 20 bucks, a few days before I
was to depart.  Heh!  There were like more than half of the stuff on sale.

They occasionally have sales that have prices of some slashed up to 75%.
That is during their clearance sales, though...I used to get postcards
here [in Hawaii] advertising sales and that was so heart/gut wrenching
seeing the sales...I am glad I am off the list now..!! ha.

The address, just looked it up in <cringe> Creem {what a rip, they did
not send me the promised CD adn only sent me two issues and i paid for
a one year subscription a year ago..the first and the last issues, I guess}

Phone no:  
Santa Monica:  213 394 9690
San Francisco: 415 861 6278
New York:      212 496 2955

For catalog send $2.00 to:
Na Na Dept. Cr.
1228 3rd Street
Santa Monica, CA  90401

Mail order info:
1 800 347 4728

Wholesale info:
213 394 5305

quote on the ad:
"Genuine Na Na Dr. Marten 8 eyelet boots also available at : Hot topic - So.
Calif; Robert Wayne - LA; Broadway Cobbler - NYC; & more from coast to coast"
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Ska shows are all over the place except Indiana.
Yes we have all heard Operation Ivy, and Mighty Mighty Mighty Bosstones.
Op Ivy is having a live 7" out soon. (not on lookout)
We are lead to believe Skankin' Pickle and Bad Manners rule.
Why all the German Crosses?
  *WOULD LIKE AN ANSWER HERE*
Is everyone here bald?  Certainly not.  And Vanilla Ice IS not a skinhead.
Em is one incredible babe, but she is mine.
Not all bald folks are skinheads some are just bald.
Where is Oi! come from (the word not the music)

Oi! is plan and simple, it comes from the commom usage of the Cockney
(London) accent. Oi John, Oi mate, Oi get me a pint you dirty mother fucker
and so on. Way back in 1982 the Skinheads in New York tried to set up Yo! 
it lasted a couple of years but didnt get of the ground.

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