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From: st1q9@jane.uh.edu (Devine, Della M)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: in dash CD player vertical?
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:22:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: jane.13OCT199215222674
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


     I'm buying a Pioneer DEH-780 CD player for my blazer and i was
wondering if it was possible to mount it vertically with the display 
facing directly up and having to load it the same.  I know CD changers
can be mounted horizontally or vertically and about 30deg variation but
i'm not sure about in dash's.  I want to mount it in my center console
i built for it. I've a friend who has a kenwood 95r mounted at a 45 deg
angle and it doesn't skip unless he tries to make it skip and then it 
only has once or twice in 6 months.  I'm replacing a tape player that
i had mounted in this fashion and want to mount it in the same space.
     I have another option of installing it in an overhead console
but would much prefer it at my fingertips and not at my roof.

                            thanx
                            william c devine ii
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From: n3hnr@hpb.cis.pitt.edu (Jason Galanter)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car,pa.forsale,misc.forsale,rec.radio.swap
Subject: Car BASS system for sale (AMP, X-over, bass tube)
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:44:22 GMT
Followup-To: rec.audio.car
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: n3hnr@hpb.cis.pitt.edu


It turns out that the gentlemen who offered to purchase my equipment
have disappeared after agreeing to purchase. So The equipment is back up
for sale.  I will accept any reasonable offer.

I have the following Car audio components for sale:

SAS Bazooka Bass tube 8" version(2 x 8" tube)			$180.00
HiFonics Cyclops 100 Watt Bass amplifier			$170.00
Coustic XM-3 Elctronic crossover networkA			$ 75.00


Complete system for: $375+shipping


Contact:  Jason -    n3hnr@hpb.cis.pitt.edu or 412-521-6042

All equipment is in gauranteed working order - Best Offer will be
accepted.

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322 Mall Blvd., Suite 306   | galanter+@pitt.edu 
Monroeville, PA 15146       | 
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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: gianos@leland.Stanford.EDU (Edward Alexander Gianos)
Subject: Re: SECURITY
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 04:26:46 GMT

In article <1621@rwja.umdnj.edu> holowczk@rwja.umdnj.edu (Richard Holowczak) writes:
>
>I heard somewhere that car covers can trap moisture against your car and
>that will promote rust.  Perhaps this is only with cheap covers? (or cheap
>cars??)
>
>Rich Holowczak

Some are made of a breathable material, and some are not.  Usually the 
cheaper ones are made of rip-stop nylon--tent material.  However, 
the one I bought was made of 'technalon' or 'evolution 3' appears to
be the same material.  It is kinda like a real light sweatshirt material,
and is real soft.  The 'instructions' that came with it said:
   
     "Your Technalon Car Cover will repel rain showers, morning dew,
      ocean salt and mist.  ...  Any moisture or condensation under
      the cover will quickly evaporate through the 'breathable' 
      surface."

And, from what I have seen, this is true enuf.  Both car & cover have
gotten soaked in rainstorms, and the cover seems to dry out pretty
quick when the sunny-shine comes out.  I would bet the tent-material
stuff tends to hold moisture.
 
Remember about the antenna, tho.  Mine retracts all the way.  I would
hate to unscrew the antenna everytime I want to put the cover on and off.
(you could cut a hole for it, I guess)
 
Later!
 
Ed
gianos@leland.stanford.edu
From: hhtra@usho72.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: I'm baaaaaack.
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:06:07 GMT
Organization: Chevron


 Net Server went down again.

 If any of my good buddy ol' pals out there would kindly 
 send me the Subject Listing from yesterday Wed 10 am to 
 today Thu 1 pm, I'd greatly appreciate it.

 I'd hate to miss any NET.WISDOM (or Kirk's rantings).

 Thanks in advance.

 TRAVIS
From: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle) 
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: LEDS???
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:32:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248
Reply-To: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle) 

Hey all,
        I just put two more LEDS in my driver and passenger doors.  They
seem alittle bright(i.e. attracting attention).  I was wondering what
some of you all think about this situation.  Do you think that LEDS in
the doors in plain sight would cause more problems than good?  Do you
think they will attract the wrong kind of attention instead of warding
off, like they are suppose to.  I would especially like to hear from any
ex-thieves.  They seem to know what is the thing to watch and what
catches attention.  Any opinions and/or facts or fully welcome.
                Thanks,  Rob
From: boerner@btree.uucp (Robert Boerner temp)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Bronco Install
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:40:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Brooktree Corporation

Anyone done any trick installs on a full-size Ford bronco???  I've got a
'91 with Polk Speakers, ADS 6.2s in the doors and an ADS four channel
amp.  I'm looking for a nice, very clean looking sub-enclosure for the
cargo area.  Anyone have any advice???
Thanks-
Robert
From: arashid@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Subwoofer "Help!!!"
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:28:51 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University

Hello,
	I am a college student.  I have a Honda accord '83.  I would 
like to install two subs to run of my Orine amp.  I beleive it is a 
250sx.  I was wondering what kind of subs I should buy and how much 
trunk space would I loose to get the bass sound that I want.  Anyones 
help would be appreciated.  I can give you more specs if I get a 
response. 
					Thank you,
					Abdul
From: hhtra@usho21.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: SECURITY
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:31:41 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Oct8.162222.16418@news2.cis.umn.edu>, vanm0005@student.tc.umn.edu writes:
|> Actually, tinted windows do have their advantages.  

  [stuff deleted]

|> Not to mention you don't broil as much when you get in your car in
|> the summer.

  Down here in Texas, where it regularly gets over 100 deg during the
  summer, a lot of cars have some kind of added window tint.  It's not
  just the tint, it's more like the super-dark tint, that's a flag.
From: jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM (John Fox - SunExpress IR)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Tinted Windows
Date: 13 Oct 1992 19:42:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: hooksett.east.sun.com

In article 1622@rwja.umdnj.edu, holowczk@rwja.umdnj.edu (Richard Holowczak) writes:
>danclark@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Resident MacWizard 26/140 286-4405) writes:
>
>>This might upset a lot of you, but tinted windows are not very smart.  
>>You might as well put a sign on the back window that says "Break into 
>>me".  Maybe the sign should say "Please Mr. Officer, pull me over".  
>>Tinted windows do not look cool.  On second thought, keep your tinted 
>>windows!  This way a theif will hit your car instead of mine.
>
>>As a final note, I have been hit twice.  They have stolen over $1000 
>>worth of equipment and have done another $1000 in damage to the car.
>>GEICO hates my guts now.  I can happily say that I have been theif 
>>free since I purchased my Excaliber alarm.
>
>I just did a quick count as I walked to class today.  I say about 20 cars
>with tinted windows.  At least 15 of them had one window which was not
>tinted.  Usually it was a smaller window in the back or a vent window
>in the front.  My conclusion?  Tinted windows attract attention and therefor
>car thieves.  I would guess that the car owners have not had a chance to get
>the new windows tinted since their break in.
>
>Just my $.02
>
>
>See ya,
>Rich Holowczak


That's funny, *every* car with tinted windows I see has at least one not
tinted - THE WINDSHIELD! :-)
Actually, that doesn't tell you anything. Could be that *19* out of 20 cars
with non-tinted windows also had a break-in. But the owner replaced the
window with the same lack of tint that it had in the beginning, leaving
you no wiser to the fact he had been broken into!


John































Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: gianos@leland.Stanford.EDU (Edward Alexander Gianos)
Subject: Re: SECURITY
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 23:35:52 GMT


For added nighttime security, I keep my honda under a locked cover.  It takes
an extra few minutes to put on and off each day, but I feel better.  My 
thought on this is:  It will take a prospective theif some time to shred
the cover before he can even notice my pulled-out stereo and the alarm LED
blinking right next to it.  Any time I can add to a thief's work on my car
will make him more leery to hang around.  BTW-order a custom cut one, 
mine (from J.C. Whitney, ~$110) fits like a glove.
 
The Stanford University Police highly recommend this as a good theft-
deterrent.
 
no parking-lot dings, no bird doo-doos, stays clean longer, looks neat,
I have learned to take it on and off in 1-2 minutes.....
 
Take care!
 
Ed
From: vincent@garnet (Vincent Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Sony CD changer RF
Followup-To: rec.audio.car
Date: 9 Oct 1992 20:59:33 GMT
Organization: sstaff
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: whe1mac25.berkeley.edu

Somebody says the u300rf or 500 ? whatever are these any good because
somebody saidf  they are not give me a post. Thanks.
From: jl6p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Josh S Linder)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Car stereo security
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:28:26 GMT
	<6017@dove.nist.gov>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

On 07-Oct-92 in Re: Car stereo security      
user Lawrence B. Keys@starchi writes:
> 
>	- the fact that my car is a VW Jetta (with the infamous
>	  triangle shaped rear window) which theives just love to
>	  break into...sometimes just for practice :)

My '87 VW Golf has the front ones and my '89 Honda Civic LX has the rear
ones -- that's why I have a stock Honda 2-speaker radio in the Civic and
an outdated Blaupunkt in the Golf.  Whoever would want them should be
shot.

My mother's '93 Civic EX, however, has the Pioneer removable faceplate,
and the smallest piece of glass are the front windows -- there are no
vent or triangle windows.
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: large capacitors
From: glen.kawano@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (Glen Kawano) 
Date: 11 Oct 92 20:16:00 GMT
Reply-To: glen.kawano@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us (Glen Kawano) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Batchelor Pad PCBoard ~ Long Beach, CA ~ +1 310 494 8084

RAW|From: walkerr@banzai.WPI.EDU (Robert A Walker)
RAW|Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
RAW|Subject: Re: large capacitors

RAW|>I have seen many installations and heard much talk here about the use
RAW|>of large capacitors in car audio set ups.  What are they used for?

RAW|They are used in parellel with the car battery so that when a bass note
RAW|sucks all the juice out of the battery the capacitors keep a steady and
RAW|constant supply of power going to the amp for the high end.
RAW|Am I correct?

The capacitors are meant to provide short bursts of instantaneous
current, whether required by a bass note or a mid/high note. One of the
reasons an amp clips before it's reached its design limit is it can't
get the instantaneous current it requires to keep its power supply
voltages up. Batteries can't supply the system with the fast bursts
of current it may need. With the capacitors there the signal peak can
draw some power from them; they then recharge instantly (within several
milliseconds). The capacitors definitely cannot provide large amounts of
steady current for long periods of time. Batteries, with their
chemically driven cells, can do that quite well.
---
 . SLMR 2.1a . 
                                                                                           
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: smisra@eos.ncsu.edu (SAURABH MISRA)
Subject: Tinted windows
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:01:39 GMT


Just thought I add a little;

Almost every car has tinted windows...even if you hate tinted windows
(I certainly hate them), you probably have tinted windows anyways...
Just go out and check.  I didn't say anything about the tint being
so light you can hardly tell, but if you have AC then you definitely
have tinted windows.

Later,
Saurabh
From: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: WILL THIS FIT IN AN ACURA
Date: 14 Oct 92 14:19:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us (Erich Lim) 

-> I am considering going into debt over a 1993 Acura Integra
-> RS (with or without stereo).
-> Meaning i have to yank all the stereo stuff out of my aging
-> bronco. The question is how easily it will go in (i'm not dead-set on
-> the acura).
-> I have currently BA 5.2s, Fosgate 5 1/4 (possibly will sell
-> these), a Power 100, a hifonics Odin and 2 Kicker 12"s (these will
-> more than likely have to go as i want to keep the area where the
-> seats fold down clear so i can get back there easily - in the bronco
-> it was easy just to pile groceries and luggage and food ontop of the
-> speakers).

  Everything will fit, the Boston's, Fosgate's, everything.  You may
want to dump the 2 12's and put in 1 12", you still get very good bass.
Since space seems to be a premium to you, you may want to mount your
amps on an amp rack mounted to the sides of the trunk to save space.
You won't be able to tuck any of the amps under the seat, cause there is
just no space. )-:  Or, if you don't care about your spare tire, you can
use the well and put all of your amps and crossovers there with a fan,
so noone will see it and it will be out of the way.


Erich Lim
Internet add:  erich.lim@cutting.hou.tx.us
From: ae454@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Simundza)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Ftp site for Perfect Box???????????
Date: 10 Oct 1992 01:35:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ae454@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Simundza)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



could someone give me an ftp site which has the Perfect Box program
(preferably the newest version)...and any other audio programs...
thanks!

-- 
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                               | CSU(Internet): pauls@madnick.cba.csuohio.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:19:44 EDT
From: <JLW154@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: proton amps.

     Can Anyone please!!! tell me if Proton amps are any good I would really ap
preciate any info.  Also has anyone else had probs. with their Alpines eating t
apes(expecially old tapes) my friend's ate a few old tapes this weekend but it
didn't hurt any newer tapes.
Thanks in Advance
Jay Wade
|-------------------------|
|Jam loud. Cruise slow.  |
|there is no such thing as|
|too loud. just too noisy.|
|-------------------------|
From: "chad thomas" <chad.thomas@canrem.com>
Subject: have port frequency; how
Reply-To: "chad thomas" <chad.thomas@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:07:56 EST

Hi Mike,
      RE: Effective piston Diameter... Is calculated by measuring the
diameter of the drivers' cone, middle of surround to middle of surround.
 Some usual diameters are 8.5 to 8.75 for 10"; 10.5 to 10.75 for 12";
13.5 et al for 15"; and 16.5 for 18".

      PerfBox <never used it, but if its any good...> should have a
submenu for calculating both round and rectagular vent for ported
system.  If not, then you'll have to use Theil Small with the given box
volume from Perf at box freq, and recommended freq and calculate.
Sorry, but I don't have the formulae handy to give you.

If you want, Email the Qts Vas desired tuning et al and I'll respond
with ports.  Don't forget Your desired box volume.

Good luck....
                 Chad Thomas for
                             David Argiropulos
--
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World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
From: dks@Apple.COM (dk smith)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: CD Changers, Opti-link  (was Re: Sony CD changer RF
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:58:50 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Cy Herring <herring@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu> writes:
>
> In response to your question about "Opti-link".....
>
> The name suggest an optical fiber connection which would
> digitally transmit the signal with light, thereby eleminating
> any emi.
>
> Cy
>

Thanx. This much I knew. I have a pretty good topical knowledge of the
technology and/or the concepts. The area I question myself is in the analog
domain. For example, I know (from using my stereo) signal levels at the mV
level (preamp level) are susceptible to emi from things like power supplies.
As a result I have to keep any power supplies at least 3 feet away from my pre-
amp (its power supply is remotely located with a long cord). I wonder if shitty
scenarios (for mVs) exist in cars. I would think it is an emi nightmare.
However I don't know and don't have the time to investigate it (outside of
asking for input from more analog-savvy people than me. If I were to guess,
this optical connection is going to be in every cd changer system within 2
years. But who knows...?

-dk
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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: rnakamu@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Ryan Nakamura)
Subject: Car Alarm Suggestions
Summary: Help! 
Organization: University of Hawaii, College of Engineering
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:39:17 GMT


     Seeing that my little Autopage RF/06 is getting a little
old (3 years), and the investment it's supposed to protect
has gotten ridiculously large, I think it's time for a new
alarm.  I've been looking at several high(er) end alarms
and was wondering if anyone could give me suggestions/
recommendations/comments on the following alarms:

     Clifford IntelliGuard 600/400
     Alpine 8070
     Derringer2
     Viper (I've never liked this alarm, but I'd be interested
            in hearing about it)


I really wanted an Alpine 8040, but I have titanium tint on my
car (oh no, tint!) and I've been told the outer field can't
penetrate metallic tints...

That's basically all that dealers around here carry.  They all tell
me different stories.  One shop stopped carrying the Derringer2
because they didn't sell, but the Vipers were selling by the
crate.  Oddly, another shop had a completely reverse story...

Please e-mail. I will summarize if there is enough interest.

Help, please!  Thanks!

-Ryan
rnakamu@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu
From: keys@starchild.ncsl.nist.gov (Lawrence B. Keys)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Subwoofer Frames
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:18:22 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Standards & Technology

I have been reading this group for nearly a year now, but i have never
seen any discussion on Subwoofer Frames (baskets).  I am not sure how 
important the subwoofer basket is but i hope that my question will stir
some discussion.

I have been looking at subs since i first started building my system. 
Although i`am not quite ready for subs (re: dollars) i am still looking,
listening and pricing.

I have noticed that there are a couple manufacturers with subs (usually
their top of the line) that have "cast aluminum" baskets.  Subs such as
the Boston Acoustics, SoundStream's, Nakamichi's, MB Quarts and several 
others.  These speakers range in size from 8-12", and are usually petty
expensive.  The specification for these subs with the "cast" baskets seem
to indicate they are for higher powered (250watt and up) applications. Is
there a correlation between power handling and the "cast basket". 

Question

I know that the way a speaker sounds is subjective, but other than
structural ridigness, would a sub with a "cast" basket sound better
than a basket of "stamped" steel?  Why?

If ridigness is the reason for a "cast" basket, why cast an 8" sub?

Would a "cast" basket enhance the sound performance of a system with
only low to moderate (80 - 150 watts) power, or are they designed for
higher powered systems?


Any, and all responses appreciated.
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From: edm@tahoe.asd.sgi.com (Ed Miszkiewicz)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: SONY DAT FOR SALE
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:29:52 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.


     SONY DTX10 DAT PLAYER FOR SALE
     ------------------------------

Sony Car DAT player, brand new, never used,
in box with reciept and 10 new DAT tapes (blank).
$400.00 plus shipping.  Sony's list price on these
was originally $1000.00, so if DAT's your bag, here's
your chance to snag one of these babies.
Call Ed Miszkiewicz at (415)390-1076 or reply by e-mail.
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: mike@rice.edu (Michael L. Quillin)
Subject: FORD PREMIUM SOUND SYSTEM
Organization: Rice University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 01:33:29 GMT


I recently upgraded to a Pioneer CD player
in my 1992 Ford Explorer.  As a result, I
have a brand new Ford premium factory
system that I need to sell.  It comes with:

	AM/FM/Cassette receiver
	Amplifier
	Four speakers

It is one of the best sounding factory
systems I have ever heard and has a total
of two weeks usage.

Email your best offer to mike@rice.edu.
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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: yystg@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (STEVE GRAHAM)
Subject: 1993 Ford Probe GT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 14 Oct 1992 15:24 EST  

I may be getting a 1993 Ford Probe GT in the very near future.

I would appreciate any and all information about this car as pertaining to 
sound systems.

ie.  Alternator output, speaker locations and sizes, what kind of CD 
Changer (Sony, Etc..) hooks up to the stock stereo, is the head unit good 
enough to run a good system (current car has Alpine CD), etc, etc, etc.

please email, thanks

S. Graham