From: mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (Mike A. McAngus)
Subject: Re: The "L" word
Organization: Homebrew Virtual Reality Labs
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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:39:45 GMT

Greg Bradt (greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com) wrote:
: In article <w2s218@rpi.edu> J.R. Ordon, root@june.cmp.rpi.edu writes:
: >In article <1992Dec22.074155.21558@jcnpc.cmhnet.org> mam@jcnpc.cmhnet.org
: (Mike 
: >A. McAngus) writes:
: >>Owen Barrus (omb@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM) wrote:
: >>: In alt.fan.rushlimbaugh, crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder)
: writes:
: >>
: >>I classify myself as a liberal and hold to the following beliefs:
: >>1) Civil liberties are important to the point where every care must be
: taken in
: >>criminal trials so that innocent people are not wrongly convicted.
: >>2) Tax exemptions for all religious income and property should be repealed.
: >>3) Only charitable organizations that directly benefit the poor should
: remain
: >>tax exempt.
: >>4) Tax deductions for political contributions should be eliminated.
: >>5) The country should go to a yearround school calendar.
: >>6) The Electoral College should be done away with.
: >>7) Abortion should remain safe and legal.
: >>8) Anyone who is invited to speak anywhere should be allowed to be heard,
: and 
: >>any disruptive elements should be removed from the venue.
: >>9) Homosexual activity should not be deemed a crime.
: >>10) Gays should be allowed in the military.
: >>
: >>And the list goes on and on.
: >> 
: >
: >As a conservative, I totally agree with you in numbers 2,3,4,5,6,8,9.
: >
: >The rest?
: >
: >Number 1... well yes, but we must do something about the victims rights
: also.
: >
: >Number 7 ... Personally, I'm prolife, but I do not feel that I should force
: >             my personal beliefs on others.(unlike some liberals & 
: >             Conservatives). Majority rule should prevail.
: >
: >Number 10 ..Gays ARE in the military, if people doubt this, they're naive.
: >            yes, gays cannot admit it, and this should be changed, but with
: >            moderation.
: >
: >Now for my additions...
: >
: >Number 11.  All people should have equal rights, NOT special rights.
: >Number 12.  Job employment should be based on ability and qualifications,
: >            NOT quotas. This puts me against Affirmative Action.
: >Number 13.  Criminals should be treated as just that. I do not believe
: >            in making excuses for their actions, bad childhood, poor
: family, 
: >            Child abuse, ad nausem. Criminals should not be slapped on the
: >            wrist, build more prisons if need be. Eliminate the parole
: >            system and have standard sentences for crimes.
: 
:
: Actually, I think you both make splendid conservatives.  However, you would
: make terrible Republicans.

LIES!  SLANDER!  LIBEL!  OOOOOOOHHH GRRRRRRRR!!!! <stamp foot> <pout> :^)
Although I think I make a poor Republican, how do my beliefs deviate from 
libralism to the point that you feel comfortable labeling me a conservative?

:
: Why?  Because the Republicans are no more Conservative, in the traditional
: sense, than are the Democrats, especially with the recent Democratic shift
: toward moderation.  We are left with a choice between secular liberalism
: (Democrats) vs. corporate totalarianism (Republicans).
:
: Traditional Conservativism holds that government should only involve itself
: in areas where there is a clear need and a clear solution.  Both parties
: have been too busy building empires with the proceeds from special interests
: to keep site of that principle.  The result is that we have a govenment that
: is involved in =everything= and consequently does more harm than good, on
: balance.  And, on top of all that, they waste a great deal of our national
: economic resources doing it.
:
: We share an unfortunate bond with the former Soviet Union.  We have both
: become addicted to "government."  I hope we can start weaning ourselves
: before we face the kind of economic withdrawal symptoms that they are
: enduring.  If we don't, then it will be just as ugly here.
-- 
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