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From: kmg@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (keith.gabryelski)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: a3091: blah blah  ==  system go boom!
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:11:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbfsb.1992Apr7.191136.2298
Distribution: comp
Organization: AT&T

pbrown@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Patrick R. Brown) writes:
> I'm working on porting the code related to my Master's Thesis onto an
> Amiga 3000UX we have in my office.  The code compiles fine, but every
> so often when it runs, the following shows up on my console:
> 
> a3091:  0xFF 1 0x78EB764
> a3091:  0x81 3 0x78EB764

This is an fatal error from the a3091 driver.  This is the SCSI
driver.  You should check your drive's manual to figure out the exact
error report.

I believe the only time the driver will ignore requests (lock up) is
when the hardware gets into an unexpected state.  This can happen if
you have a noisy SCSI cable or isn't plugged in correctly.

I don't beleive this happens when a read or write error occurs (ford?
rico?)  although I can't check this right now.  If it turns out that
this is your problem you should backup as much work as you can,
reformat and try again.

Pax, Keith
From: har@ux.acs.umn.edu (--SeebS--)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: Amiga UNIX 2.1 Questions
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:52:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux.1992Apr6.195255.13019
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Apr3.081136.21244@enea.se> tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson) writes:
>The 2.1 version was announced to be released in March, hopefully -92.
>Has anyone heard if it's released, or when it will be?

I picked it up from my dealer friday.

This is getting to be a running thing; it only took them six days to get the
machine in, during the great amiga 3000 shortage.

> Tommy Petersson              tope@enea.se              Enea Data AB, Sweden

-s
-- 
Peter Seebach, using my fiancee's acount. (Please use "SEEBS" in the subject
line, so we know who it's for.)  Polygamy: "There can be more than one."
"I love using MS-DOS - waiting for the machine gives me so much free time!"
har@ux.acs.umn.edu (Love Incarnate)
From: jtillema@cs.arizona.edu (John E. Tillema)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Amiga UNIX vs Others
Date: 12 Apr 92 22:48:27 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson


Since I hope to graduate next year, I have started looking at computers
to buy, more specifically UNIX ones.  I currently have a b2000, and have
been happy with the Amiga as it has given me much more than I could have
ever gotten with a PC or Mac.  I haven't accelerated it since I have
been waiting on this decision.  What is the general consensus on Amiga
UNIX?  Is it worth buying a 3000UXD/G?  The NeXT stations here are 
pretty close to the same price and you get an '040 as well...  How is
support for it verses other UNIX systems?  I don't know if I will have
Internet access after I am out of school, so this would be useful as well.
I have also heard (or I guess read would be the more appropriate term) 
that porting gcc2.0 wouldn't be easy due to kernal incompatiblities
(the Amiga's special hardware?) (I haven't been following this newsgroup
too closely, so I might be off base here).  Will that be a consistent 
problem with porting software, or is it only because it is a compiler?
And along the same lines, do you run into these same problems on other 
UNIX systems?  Any opinions on it would be helpful, feel free to email
me if you don't want to eat up/waste bandwidth here.

Thanks,
John
jtillema@caslon.cs.arizona.edu
From: chet@odin.INS.CWRU.Edu (Chet Ramey)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: X crash followup, oddness with 2.1 install tape
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:26:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr7.182623.19622
Organization: Case Western Reserve University

In article <2837@ub.d.umn.edu> rhealey@ub.d.umn.edu (Rob Healey) writes:

>	Plus, bash doesn't execute my ksh scripts properly on any
>	of the machines I've run it on.

Just out of curiousity, what does this have to do with using bash as
an interactive shell?

In any event, bash is an implementation of the Posix shell spec, not
a ksh clone.

Chet
-- 
``The use of history as therapy means the corruption of history as history.''
	-- Arthur Schlesinger

Chet Ramey, Case Western Reserve University	Internet: chet@po.CWRU.Edu
From: etac@levels.unisa.edu.au (Andrew Chalmers)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Weird Things are Happen on my UNIX both!!!
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:09:44 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia

Well my Amiga UNIX has run it's longest time ever so far.  About 7 days.
This time it WASN'T me that stopped it.  I got my first system panic for
2.03.  I'm not surprised though.  I've been suspect things weren't quit right.
like

1) Every now an again my X window pointer becomes uncontrollable.  It usually
   keep travelling to right of it own accord. I can still move it in other
   directions but only slowly and if I stop moving the mouse, it starts
   moving to the right again.  It's as if someone else also has control of
   my pointer.

2) quit often when I'm moving through a file in VI, I get suddenly put
   into insert mode.  I really don't know why.  It can even happen if the
   cursor is not moving at all.

Anybody know what's going on with my machine?

As does anyone have a better terminfo file for xterm.  The one supplied with
my 2.03 distribution doesn't appear to do underline.  Are there any utilities
available for edit or creating terminfo files?

Andrew Chalmers
Centre for Sensor Signal & Information Processing.
University of South Australia.
From: pbrown@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Patrick R. Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: a3091: blah blah  ==  system go boom!
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:31:23 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Virginia Tech, Department of Computer Science


I'm working on porting the code related to my Master's Thesis onto an
Amiga 3000UX we have in my office.  The code compiles fine, but every
so often when it runs, the following shows up on my console:

a3091:  0xFF 1 0x78EB764
a3091:  0x81 3 0x78EB764

When this happens, the system no longer responds to anything I type.
The process, however, keeps going -- or at least the disk keeps
spinning.  There is no way to log in and kill the process, since the
system is too busy.  The only solution is a poweroff.  It looks to me
like some kind of kernel panic, but I have almost no experience
working with Amigas (v. 2.03 on our system).  It's a big problem since
I do my work with this machine from home via a modem connection.  It's
kind of tough to hit the `off' button from a few miles away.  1/2 :-)

Any ideas as to what's going on?

Thanks,
Pat
--
Patrick R. Brown (pbrown@cs.vt.edu)             Department of Computer Science
                                                Virginia Tech,  Blacksburg, VA
    "Sarah's not the kind of woman who'd kill a man - she'd just make him
	       wish he were dead"  -   Andy Griffith, "Matlock"
From: wasp@chumly.ka.sub.org (Walter Mildenberger)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:08:45 GMT
Organization: *private amiga site*
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: availability of UX apart from 3000UX
X-Newsreader: Ann 0.8m
X-Charset: LATIN1

Hello !

I need help, see below.

In article <481@kas.helios.mn.org>,
	rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey) writes:
$>In article <3678@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ee23042f@vttcf.cc.vt.edu (Zaphod Beeblebrox) writes:
$>=  As far as running Amiga UNIX on an A2000, the internal UNIX doc's I have
$>=  say that it can be done, but that you must boot from a floppy.  As far
$>
$>	One clearification:
$>
$>		If you have a 2091 with current ROMs and 2.04 in ROM a
$>		2500 will boot without floppy. It's only if you have an
$>		older 2090 or don't have 2.04 in ROM that you have to
$>		boot from floppy. You need a "modern" rdb implementation
$>		to boot UNIX directly off the hard drive.

No, that's wrong. Even the old-fashioned A2090a is able to boot unix just
fine (V2.03 that is).

Well, actually not so fine:
	a) you can't share a single hard-disk between Ados and unix and have
		both bootable (no problem if you have two or more drives).
	b) you can't install the ufs as root-system (that was really a dis-
		appointment for me.)

	c) And after all, I have a strange problem here, which probably is
		caused by A2090a also - and probably not:

	I have a A2630+4MB 32bit-RAM plus another 4MB 16bit-ram (and 1MB
chip-mem which doesn't count); they are [auto]configured to 0x2000000 to
0x5ffffff and 0x6000000 to 0x9ffffff, so they ARE contiguous. Now if I boot
from floppy (install-disk or KernalFloppy), everything works fine: all 8MB are
accepted as Unix-Memory, resulting in 6MB free memory.
BUT if I boot from A2090a, only 4 MB are accepted, resulting in only 2 MB
usable memory. I don't have to mention that Amix is barely usable with
4MB, do I ? So has ANYBODY a idea what can be wrong ?

Any help appreciated

-- 
Walter Mildenberger, Morgenstr. 55, W-7500 Karlsruhe 1,FRG, (0721)385090
Sub/UseNet: wasp@chumly.ka.sub.org -or-  Bitnet: UKF5@DKAUNI2.Bitnet
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: dtiberio@csws7.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: C= "Marketing" Department 
Keywords: Amiga, UNIX, Unix
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:53:26 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.133730.22939@ll.mit.edu> black@ll.mit.edu (Jerry Glomph Black) writes:
>In article <474@kas.helios.mn.org> rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey) writes:
>>In article <id.RPIO.8O@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>=I really wish someone at Commodore would give us SOME sort of indication
>>=that there's a marketing plan out there? Every time they come up with a
>>=good idea they seem to dump it after 6 months before it's had a chance to
>>=work.
>>=
>>	I hear tell C= US cycles out their whole marketing dept. every 6 - 8
>>	months, maybe that could explain the dumping of marketing campaigns
>>	that were actually getting somewhere...
>>
>>		-Rob
>
>
>A short personal story: In my new engineering job, I was allowed to specify 

>So I call the droid in Virginia who handles this account. He had ZEEEROO
>knowledge of this product. He swore Unix 2.1 didn't exist yet, that high-
>density floppies never existed for the A3000, and that the AS225 s/w was
>pre-installed on the hard-drive(bullshit).  Said he would fed-ex the ROMS &
>AS225 right away.  Yeh. That was 5 days ago.
>
>In short, I am wicked pissed.  What a bullshit operation!  I wish them a
>short and exciting ride to oblivion!

	I was very pleased when I called the Amiga line today. At first I
heard a noise similar to the AT&T audio beeps before very long distance
call. And I could hear music and some sort of advertisement in the background.
Here is a paraphrase of what I heard between talking with the representative
from CBM:

	"and I was very pleased with their service...fast, friendly, reliable,
blah, blah, blah...


		so next time you need professional quality call FloraVision
Flowers at 1-900-123-4567..."



-- 
      //   David Tiberio  SUNY Stony Brook 2-3662  AMIGA  DDD-MEN   
     //  Not the llama! Come here Earl; I want to tell you something...
   \X/		Liverpool, New York	    Yes, I like 3D.	
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: burkert1@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de (Klaus Burkert)
Subject: Re: Amiga UNIX on A2500
Organization: University of Passau, W-Germany
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 11:35:36 GMT

In article <EdsutPK00h7nIKf1R4@andrew.cmu.edu> Todd Andrew Williamson <tw0i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I have the equivalent of an Amiga 2500 system -
>
>A2000 with A2630 (4 megs), A2232 serial card, A2320 deinterlacer, GVP
>Series II SCSI controller, ProRAM board with 2 more megs, Quantum LPS
>240 hard disk.
>
>Total: 7 megs (4 32-bit fast, 2 16-bit fast, 1 chip) and 240 MB of
>disk space.
>
>Questions:  Will AmigaUNIX work with this setup?  Now that it is being
>sold separately, I'm considering it.  I guess the real question is
>whether or not it will work with the GVP Series II SCSI controller.
>Does GVP need to write a driver for this, or will it magically work
>right out of the box?  

GVP has to write a driver or to release the necessary informations that
someone else could do it for them. Apart from this, I see no reason why it
shouldnm't work.

Maybe it helps when you urge into them?

Ciao, Klaus.

-----------------------------------------------------------
Klaus Burkert        email: burkert1@kirk.fmi.uni-passau.de
Brandweg 11          voice: +49-851/83993 (only pm please)
D-W-8390 Passau   /  Federal Republic of Germany
From: greggs@lord_garth.nersc.gov (Gregg D Schoenberger)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: password security
Keywords: password,security
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:33:14 GMT
Organization: National Energy Research Supercomputer Center, LLNL

A recommended program by CERT ( computer security org ) for checking
the stength/security of your passwd file is Crack. It is a dictionary
based system that uses permutation of words to look for weak passwords.
It uses an optimized encipher function that is much faster for password
sized text ( 60+ times faster on a Sparc-I ). I was able to sweep our
NIS database in 28 hours using a HP cycle server. A hacker could do it
on a PC, only difference being the time to completion.

The permutation list used is very clever. Backwords, upcase, capitalization,
vowels removed, numbers and special chars pre/postpended, et. nauseum. The
rules that I did not expect to see were 'visual puns'. These are character
substitutions of similar looking items; 1 for 1, $ for S, 0 for O...

One other issue to keep in mind is that Crack can be run in a
distributed fashion using rsh and nfs. A handful of Sparc-II machines
and you can crack passwds faster than a Cray Y-MP can ( crays do not
have a byte address mode and are not optimal for character manipulation
so this statement is specific to password checking ).

The point is that one should not take these tools ( password checkers )
lightly. NIS is not very secure and a good cracker can download a copy of
a YP password file and crack at his/her leisure. Since they don't try login
until they have something, a failure monitoring technique or login delay
is useless against them. These tools should still be used, if anything to
catch to less smart crackers, but they are not to be considered the ultimate
deterrent.
------
Gregg Schoenberger                       | SchoenbergerGD@nersc.gov
SVR4 administration                      |
Distributed Computing Group              |
National Energy Research Computer Center |
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: peterk@public.sub.org (Peter Kittel)
Subject: Re: Open Systems CeBIT description
Organization: Public News & Mailserver, Commodore Germany PM UNIX, Frankfurt
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 10:29:02 GMT

rromano@ccad.uiowa.edu (Richard A Romano) writes:

>I read an interesting article in the March 30 edition of Open Systems Today
>on CeBIT.  I quote, from pg 20:
>"Commodore Business Machines, which actually lives up to its name here in
>Germany, had small Unix systems based on its new 486 PCs on display."

>Without starting a flame war, were these actually 486s or where they 
>Amiga 3000UXs? If it is a 486 what version of UNIX runs on them, if they
>were 3000s I would like to let Open Systems know.  This is the type of
>magazine that the 3000UX needs some publicity in.

Well, we have both, A3000UX *and* PCs under SCO UNIX. And we showed both
types of machines on CeBIT. Why this magazine only reports about the
Intel based machines, don't know.

-- 
Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to  \\  Only my personal opinions... 
Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
From: fnf@fishpond.uucp (Fred Fish)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: SVR4 Benchmarks
Date: 14 Apr 92 04:08:31 GMT
Organization: Amiga Library Distribution Services

In article <1992Apr13.234136.14628@ra.msstate.edu> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip 'AdaX' Sauls) writes:
>Do you have any sort of benchmarks comparing your A3000UX with the 386 box
>running SVR4 that you use at work?  I know this is a rather silly question,
>but we are arguing about the 386 vs 030 over on comp.sys.amiga.advocacy and
>someone suggested that the best comparison would be under SVR4 and GCC.

It may not mean a lot, but I regularly rebuild gcc 2.X (using gcc) on both
an Amiga 3000UX and an NCR 3000 (PC486/33).  The NCR machine is a 33Mhz
486 with 32Mb of memory.  The Amiga 3000 is a 25Mhz 030 with 16Mb of memory.
Both are running SVR4.  A complete rebuild of gcc is about 8 times faster
on the 486 than the 030.

-Fred
-- 
|\/ o\  Fred Fish, 1835 E. Belmont Drive, Tempe, AZ 85284,  USA
|/\__/  1-602-491-0048 {asuvax,mcdphx,cygint,amix}!fishpond!fnf
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
From: c8908461@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au (ROBERT LAWRENCE LANG)
Subject: Accessing 720k PC disks on Unix 2.03 ???
Organization: Uni of Newcastle, Australia
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 08:48:56 GMT

Okay, I just installed Unix 2.03 on my 3000UX, and now have the dilemma.

How do I access IBM format disks ??? I've been told this is possible
and see all the mention in man pages about /dev/rdsk/fd0id but nothing
about how it all comes together.

I'm not much of a Unix person, but I'm figuring bits out (rather 
dissappointed with the documentation !!!) and have managed to format
an "amiga" disk, make a file system and ,mount it successfully, *BUT*
the same process doesn't work for the /dev/rdsk/fd0id driver and the
"amiga" disk isn't amiga compatible.

What I need to do, is transfer source files from the Amiga side to the
UNIX Side, so specific instructions on how to do this would be great.

Finally, is there a FAQ list posted here so that I don't bother people
with old questions ???

Thanks,

Robert Lang
4th Year Computer Engineering
University of Newcastle
c8908461@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au
From: har@ux.acs.umn.edu (--SeebS--)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Re: This is really stunning, guys.
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:31:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux.1992Apr8.023156.18289
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1992Apr6.202808.29317@cbfsb.cb.att.com> skrenta@cbnewsg.att.com (Rich Skrenta) writes:
>How many passwords are there?  Well, 26 uppercase letters, 26
>lowercase letters, 10 digits plus about 31 punctuation characters
>(what I count on my keyboard).  So 93^8 is 5,595,818,096,650,401.

Point:

control characters *are* valid; note that NeXT claimed they would fix
thier login program which didn't accept them.

Point 2:
You aren't including the one through seven character passwords.

Thus, I would estimate, say, another 20 or so for control characters...
So we have
113^8 + 113^7 + ... + 113 - which is somewhere near the number of hamburgers
McDonald's has sold.

Well, not *very* near.

etc. etc. However, your basic point holds.

>Taking a slightly more realistic 1 second per attempt (including our
>long wait at the end, and connection time) we get 177,442,227 years.

Hell, a lot of crypt implementations are intentionally slow.

>Crackers don't get into systems this way.

Actually, just the other week I broke into a computer this way.
The password was "9|99|9||", and thus I got it on around the
4,000,000,000,000,000th try. It didn't take all that long. :)

>Rich Skrenta

-s
-- 
Peter Seebach, using my fiancee's acount. (Please use "SEEBS" in the subject
line, so we know who it's for.)  Polygamy: "There can be more than one."
"I love using MS-DOS - waiting for the machine gives me so much free time!"
har@ux.acs.umn.edu (Love Incarnate)
From: geb@amber.Rational.COM (Gary Barnes)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Screen sizes with Amiga Unix, more than 600x400 possible?
Keywords: amiga, unix, screen, size
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:42:55 GMT


Under normal AmigaDOS a screen/window's maximum size is somewhere
around 680x430 (if you have a good monitor and tell the Amiga to
stretch things a bit under preferences).

What's the story for Amiga Unix?  Same standard screen/window size?  I
would presume that it would be since it would be using the same
hardware.  But, how about add-on cards?  Are there any?

What I'm hoping for, but haven't seen any discussion of, is the
ability to get 1024x700 like is available on clones using SVGA.  (What
I'd really like to have is 1190x900, or more, just like I have on my
Sun at work--I'm guessing that I won't want to afford that $$$.)  I'd
be planning on running X windows.

I saw a mention of a TIGA card, or some such thing, and the message
seemed to be about screens and monitors, but I wasn't sure.

geb@Rational.com
From: ktomlin@turing.acs.virginia.edu (Keith Tomlin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga
Subject: Amiga UNIX Upgrades?
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:32:23 GMT
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.

Dear Commodore Reps-
  I have a 3000UX under Gold Service for another year.  The UNIX tape
I was supplied with is version 1.1.  Where can I get a tape of 2.1?
 
Please reply to ktomlin@csugrad.cs.vt.edu

Thanks,
Keith


-- 
Keith P. Tomlin       | ktomlin@csugrad.cs.vt.edu
Computer Science      | ktomlin@turing.acs.virginia.edu
Virginia Tech         | "I see my eyes in your eyes through my eyes"    
CS Bits&Bytes Editor  |    -E.Sailers
From: didierj@swindj.uucp (Alain DIDIERJEAN)
Newsgroups: amix.tech,comp.unix.amiga
Subject: new HD floppies and Amix 2.03
Date: 5 Apr 92 15:58:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: swindj.208
Reply-To: didierj@swindj.uucp (Alain DIDIERJEAN)
Followup-To: amix.tech
Organization: The Software Winery


 I'm one of the lucky guys who got a A3000 equiped with a HD floppy drive. Anyway I can
 format, write or read HD floppies after booting Unix 2.03 ? Or 2.10, for that matter, 
 I'll upgrade if necessary...
 Thanks,


-- 
	
	Alain DIDIERJEAN	Experience is the name everyone gives to their mistakes
	The Software Winery						    Oscar WILDE
Newsgroups: comp.unix.amiga