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From: joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Lapti Nek
Date: 23 Jul 1992 09:07:10 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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Does anyone know why the version of Lapti Nek that is sung in Jedi and the
version on the soundtrack are different?  I always wanted to find copy
of the one sung in the film.

	-joshuali@usc.edu
From: beh10@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Holsinger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: STAR WARS QUESTION
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:23:25 GMT
Reply-To: beh10@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Holsinger)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <l716lvINNf8v@aludra.usc.edu> joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.155843.350@pro-freedom.cts.com> pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes:
>>The "Death Squad Commander" is the guy dressed in all black who has that
>>spiffy, kinda dual, half-helmet, that kind alooks like the helmet was cut
>>in hald and stuck together with one part on backwards....
>
>No no no no. That guy is IMPERIAL GUNNER. The Death Squad Commander was the
>original name for Death Star Commander.  He is the guy that says,"The
>security deflector sheild will be deactivated when we have confirmation of
>your code transmissionn...stand by" in Jedi.  He has a grey outfit with
>a black helmet.
>
>-joshuali@usc.edu

I don't know about that... I dressed up as Death Squad Commander for costume day
in middle school.  That was well before even Empire Strikes Back.  I based my
costume on pictures of the dudes who zapped Alderan (sp?) with the Big Gun,
and I called myself Death Squad Commander.  However, I'm not sure where I heard
the name (trading card perhaps).


  -barry h.


--
Barry Holsinger       | I ain't git'n et by no gators to make my wage!
Sunnyvale, CA         | There are better ways to make a buck in dis
beh10@DUTS.amdahl.com | nutty town!!  -Ralph Snart
From: ipc@zoo.bt.co.uk (Ian Coleman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: When does book 3 of Zahn's "Heir..." tr
Date: 28 Jul 92 08:47:06 GMT
Reply-To: ipc@zoo.bt.co.uk
Organization: BT Laboratories

Hey, what about when does book 2 come out (In the UK!!). I've kept
my eyes peeled, but it still hasn't hit the shelves.

---
Ian Coleman (ipc@zoo.bt.co.uk)  | "Eat healthily, exercise regularly,
BTL, Martlesham Heath, England  |  you may not live longer, but it'll 
Europe, Earth, Sol, Milky Way...|  certainly feel like it"
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From: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark William Hopkins)
Subject: Re: Another Han Solo Blooper?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:40:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.183136.27068@leland.Stanford.EDU> mohr@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul William Mohr) writes:
>Here's another question: When the rebels are evacuating from Hoth, why can Luke
>manage to fly away to Degobah unmolested?  The rest of the rebels had to
>deal with the Imperial Star Destroyers.  Maybe it's just because he's in
>a single X-wing and could slip away unnoticed...but then why did the Falcon
>receive so much attention?  Just wondering out loud.

"I want that ship, Admiral.  Asteroids do not concern me.  How long before you
 have Skywalker and the others aboard the Millenium Falcon?"
From: perez@usc.edu (Richard Perez)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: My favorite...
Date: 30 Jul 1992 22:35:26 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

This is my first post on this board so I will start out with my personal
Top 5 lists for the Trilogy.

Best Characters:
1. Boba Fett - the meanest looking muther in the galaxy!
2. Darth Vader - he wore black before it was cool.
3. Han Solo - had all the coolest lines, but needs a better outfit.
4. Snow-troopers - great looking helmets.
5. Anyone who killed an Ewok....

Worst Characters:
1. Ewoks - enuff said
2. Yoda - Jedi Master? looked like something that crawled out 
          of the swamp.
3. Tauntauns - did nothing but yell annoyingly and croak at the 
               most inconvienent times
4. C-3PO - I wish he had a "mute" button.
5. Stormtroopers - couldn't hit the side of a barn!
 
Honorable mention:
Worst air/spacecraft - Twin-pod cloud car: it was ORANGE!!!!
Worst outfit - Lobot: what the hell was that thing on his head!
Best acting - any Imperial Admiral (ack ack, thump)
and of course...

Worst hair - Guess Who?!

All these ranking are based soley upon looks and actions...the Force can't
help anyone here.
 
Q
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From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: Who didn't get figures made of them?
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:19:58 GMT

From article <1992Jul27.154856.7780@cs.unca.edu>, by mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner):
> Well, a lot of people, some a lot more important than others:
> 
> * Mon Mothma -- *the* rebel leader, after all
> 
> * several droids at the sandcrawler, though they didn't lend
>   themselves to figures (FX-7 didn't either, but it was a figure!)
> 
> * Owen & Beru
> 
> * Biggs :^)
> 
> * Wedge (and all the other pilots)
> 
> * the spy following Luke & Ben thru Mos Eisley to the Falcon
> 
> Who are some others? 
> 

	The biggest, most wanted ommision is clearly...






















	Darth Vader with the removable helmet.

 Others I can think of:
 o	Han in the ST outfit
	(ST = Storm Trooper)
 o 	Leia in Endor garb (long hair)
 o	Luke with just shirt and no damn helmet head (god talk about
	ruining a good figure, Kenner!)
 o	Leia in gown (end of SW)
 o	Ultimate R2 (with lightsaber, buzzsaw, tools, scanner, etc.)
 o	Rebel Blockade Runner Troop (like the guy Vader choked to death)


 More, I'm sure...
 TTYL
 Chris

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From: jamesbs@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (JJ Glamma)
Subject: Re: Star Wars vs. Star Trek, tech & tactics, etc.
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:12:57 GMT

rlbell@babbage.waterloo.edu (Richard Bell) writes:

>We have only negative evidence of a shuttles maneuverability.  If you only
>saw F-15's flown as though they were airliners, you would have no indication
>of their agility.  

Maybe. If it's all the same to you, I'll take the A-wing...

>The effectiveness of the first Death Star's shields, and of imperial shields
>in general, still lend credence to the conclusion that they inadequitely 
>screen the Death Star from phasers, photon torpedoes, and transporter delivered
>anti-matter bombs.  Besides, it was a FULLY OPERATIONAL Death Star [emphasis
>mine], and the Millenium Falcon still penetrated its useless shields.   

Look, the DS2 had fully operational weaponry, but not much else (get a look at
that superstructure willya!)

The Emperor's actual quote is "fully armed and operational", which seems to
refer to the DS's main gun. However, both shields and hyperdrive are not
present.

Palpatine is probably defining "operational" as "being able to perform its
primary task".

If a ship the size of the MF could get through shields, what would be the point
of having them?



-- 
-----------------------------------+-------------------------------------------
JJ Glamma                          | "Hey look... The Sarge and Dietrich ain't
aka James William Patrick Bennetts |  dead, man... their signs are real low, 
jamesbs@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU         |  but they ain't dead!"
-----------------------------------+ "Then we go back in and get them!"
When in doubt, use brute force.	   | "F*ck that!"
		-- Ken Thompson	   |	-- PFCs Hudson & Vasquez, on loyalty.
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From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: STAR WARS QUESTION
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:58:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Jul24.155843.350
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


In <1046.554.uupcb@matrix.sbs.com>
jerry.farris@matrix.sbs.com (Jerry Farris) writes:

>Hello, I'm a Star Wars cellector and I'm wondering if any of you have a
>current price list as to the values of action figures and toys.
>
>BTW, there's an action figure that is mistery to me. It's the
>"Death Squad Commander". I've seen this figure listed in several price
>guides, but he is not listed on the back of any of the cards I can find.
>I've looked on Empire, Both versions of Jedi, and the Power of the Force
>cards. Can somone please tell me what it is about this figure?
>
>                                     thanks,
>
>                                        Jerry
>                                                                    



The "Death Squad Commander" is the guy dressed in all black who has that
spiffy, kinda dual, half-helmet, that kind alooks like the helmet was cut
in hald and stuck together with one part on backwards....

This character is also the one who fires the Death Star Cannon in both Star
Wars and Return of the Jedi...

Dave
s.
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From: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Subject: Goodbye
Reply-To: tlg4@po.CWRU.Edu (TJ Goldstein)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 05:44:41 GMT



I'm sure most of you don't care, but I'm leaving this newsgroup.

When it first started, there wasn't any of the viciousness that
seems to have popped up.  Maybe it's just something about Usenet
that makes people forget that there are human beings on the other
side of the net.

So good luck, all, and I hope that you resolve the "I saw the
Enterprise destroy Bigg's tennis shoe behind the potato in
the opening credits" arguement.

-- 
             TJ Goldstein    tlg4@Cleveland.Freenet.Edu
      Assistant Sysop, Science Fiction and Fantasy SIG  (GO SCIFI)
--------------------   "Don't try to outweird me.   --------------------
 I get stranger things than you free in my breakfast cereal." -- Zaphod
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
From: is430a13@umbc5.umbc.edu (is430a13)
Subject: Re: Who didn't get figures made of them?
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 02:53:39 GMT

In article <92209.150645EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.154856.7780@cs.unca.edu>, mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott
>McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) says:
>
>>* the spy following Luke & Ben thru Mos Eisley to the Falcon
>
>My wife and I lovingly refer to this guy as dick-nose and penis-face.
>I dont think he would have gone over too well as a figure.  Imagine
>your parents seeing you pick up a package of "Phallus-Face" at
>Toys-R-Us for Christmas....
>

Or if they called the guy "DICK HEAD".... I don't think that would have
gone over real well either!!    :-)
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re:  Who didn't get figures made of them?
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:22:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Jul28.142236.127
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

>Were toy version of the A and B wing fighters ever released?  I know I
>had the models, but I don't recall any neato toys with flashing lights
>and odd sound effects. :-)

Yup! Both the A-Wing and B-Wing were released as toys. I had the B-Wing,
which had the nifty gravity cockpit that rotated accordfing to the ship, so
the pilot was always upside right... The A-Wing was Ok, but nothing really
unique about it....

Dave
From: producer@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: SW/ESB CARDS AVAIL/NEEDED
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:58:51 GMT
Reply-To: producer@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida - CIRCA

I have Blue, green, and yellow Star Wars cards available, and a lot of 
Empire cards available. I also need quite a few to finish my colection.
If you need cards or have cards, please e-mail me to keep this off the net.

I need all Orange, Red, some Empire, and all Jedi cards.

I would preferr to trade, but will willingly buy/sell. I have a number of
them available. Please let me know if I can help you/you can help me.

Randy...


Producer@Maple.circa.ufl.edu
From: joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Ben's Death
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:44:55 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul31.162814.17343@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bl375@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian G. Greenberg) writes:
>
> Second of all Ben didn't come back
>stronger than Vader could ever imagine.

Of course he did. He said "...I shall become more powerful than you can
possably imagine." and that's what happened.  Ben could follow Luke in
his immortal form way more easily than if he was alive.  Ben gave him that
guidance he needed at the Battle of the Death Star I and most important of all,
he instructed him to go to Yoda.  What he meant was that once Vader struck him
down, he could never be stopped. He did become more powerful.

-joshuali@usc.edu
From: jerry.farris@matrix.sbs.com (Jerry Farris) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: COLLECTIBLES
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:45:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: jerry.farris@matrix.sbs.com (Jerry Farris) 

Hello,

  Just picked up on this conference, and am I glad I did!
I'm looking for somone who has the action figures and toys that I need
to complete my collection. If your a collector or know where I can buy
or trade for some StarWars toys, the please leave a reply.

                                      thanks,

                                          Jerry
                     
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From: lim@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Julie Lim)
Subject: Re: Ben's Age
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:20:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.230707.1507@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>
>Well, given Yoda was 800, the door is *wide* open for Ben. I'd
>say anywhere from 60-500. 
>
>This leads to a bigger and more important question: *when* were the
>clone wars in relation to the first SW film? Was it a legendary thing
>over 2 or 3 generations past, or recent, like WWII is to college
>students today?


	Yoda was several hundred years old, true, but he certainly didn't
look human. I'm guessing (possibly in all error) that the general run of
SW humans age at the same rate as Earth humans, so I really doubt Ben could
be older than a hundred or so.

	On the other hand, if Zahn is taken as canon, that *does* leave the
door wide open for Ben to be incredibly old-- it was considered a valid
possibility for C'Baoth to be the original "master copy" of himself (i.e., 
not a clone), even though that meant he'd have to be well over a hundred
years old, and still real frisky.

	The two big IFs here are the questions "How close are SW humans to
Earth humans (if the former are really human at all)?" and "Why should we
believe this loon Zahn anyway?"

	As for the Clone Wars, they were definitely one generation back, if
Anakin and Ben both fought in them. The length of a SW generation is left as
an exercise for the reader (see above).


-- 
MUDname: Sidera           "...If I seem to give a damn, please tell me. I would
University of Delaware      hate to be giving the wrong impression."
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From: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise)
Subject: Re: Another Han Solo Blooper?
Originator: cblaise@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:13:20 GMT

From article <1992Jul27.012839.5227@leland.Stanford.EDU>, by mohr@leland.Stanford.EDU (Paul William Mohr):
> I have a question.  In ROTJ, why does Han immediately have any desire to
> help out Lando when he's about to fall into the Sarlacc?  As I recall, the
> last thing Solo would remember about Lando is that he sold them out to the
> Empire (Unless I've forgotten something in between...).  If that's the case
> I would think Solo would just blast him.  Any comments?

	As we saw, Chewie was starting to explain to him the plan...
I'd assume that he'd be notified about the Lando detail...
 
 TTYL
 Chris
From: jmb5b@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (John M. Bozeman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars vs. Star Trek, tech & tactics, etc.
Date: 28 Jul 92 00:13:48 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

>I don't know if there's an official figure for the yield of a photon
>torpedo; if so, I'm sure someone will post it.  Let's assume for the
>moment that it's about 100 megatons.  Now a 100-megaton surface burst

It always seemed to me that photon torpedos, and their Klingon equivalents,
are highly unpredictable.  Sometimes they are Awesome Instruments of Doom;
other times they aren't very powerful.  Shieldsvary, too...
so do phasers.
In the old ST a PT could knock out 1 Kingon shield, w/ a direct hit.  A 
nuclear weapon could also cripple the Enterprise   (as in A Balance of 
Terror, as I recall).  An "improved" Enterprise shield stopped a 
"Veeger" bolt that fried the Klingons.  Etc.  

nu
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Subject: Re: Dark Empire
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
	<1992Jul22.033801.26074@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
	<1992Jul22.050127.24453@umbc3.umbc.edu>
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:51:32 GMT

>>>>> On Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:01:27 GMT, is430a13@umbc5.umbc.edu (is430a13) said:


is430a13> Can anybody tell me anything about the "Dark Empire" comic
is430a13> series? I've heard it mentioned but havent seen it in the
is430a13> traditional comic outlets, unless I'm missing something. Is
is430a13> this a special "novel like" comic series like the "Dark
is430a13> Knight" series? Can anyone tell me where it can be ordered
is430a13> from? Thanks!

Well it is a 6-issue mini-series. The books come out every other month
which is probably why you haven't seen them. Were up to issue 4 right
now, but Dark Horse Comics (the publisher) will be putting out a 2nd
printing of the first 3 issues sometime soon.

--
                        Scott Streeter
                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: dkemper@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: Interesting Clue
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  
Keywords:  Oddity, Circus Freaks, Overthrow,  Overstolen, Miss Post
Reply-To: dkemper@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Distribution: world,local
Date: 21 JUL 92 17:28:59    

In article <1992Jul19.215152.7399@news.acns.nwu.edu>, hetz@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Joseph Hetz) writes...
>	In RotJ when Luke tells Leia who her father is, she says somehow I've
>always known.  In ESB right before Han is to be frozen, she looks a Darth
>Vader and backs away apprehensively as if sensing something was wrong.  Could
>she have had some sort of premonition (via the force) that she couldn't
>consciously realize or understand?  Luke did say she had the power of the
>force in her.  

Uhm, correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought she said that in response to 
Luke's revelation that he was her brother.

--Gallandro

  From 1964:
  Reporter: "What do you think of the campaign in Detroit to stamp out the
             Beatles?"
  Paul McCartney: "We've got a campaign of our own to stamp out Detroit."
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: CLIFF HANG ER
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:37:37 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

* Vader spins off to *certain death* at the end of SW. 
  But is alive in ESB
* Han is trapped in carbonite
  Rescued in RotJ

Obviously, Lucas draws from the cliffhangers Indiana Jones
spoofs more than he realizes :)

Scott
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From: rlbell@babbage.waterloo.edu (Richard Bell)
Subject: Re: Star Wars vs. Star Trek, tech & tactics, etc.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:04:17 GMT

In article <SFD.92Jul22104745@bezier.neuromancer.metaphor.com> sfd@neuromancer.metaphor.com (Scott Drellishak) writes:
>In article <BrsuM6.Gzw@watserv1.waterloo.edu> rlbell@babbage.waterloo.edu (Richard Bell) writes:
>>In article <9220314.17484@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> jamesbs@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (JJ Glamma) writes:
>>>OK. I'll concede this. But this tactic could be implemented once the Imperials
>>>figure out how to detect ships travelling at warp speed. (IMHO, this would be
>>>a trivial problem for the Empire, once Imperial ships have encountered Fed
>>>ships a few times.)
>>>
>>
>>The imperials won't figure out how to detect warp ships quickly.  They have
>>to posit about new physics principles, and design experiments to verify them.
>>The Manhattan Project was more engineering than physics, and still took years.
>
>How about this:
>
>[interior, artsy Fed starship]
>Federation Captain:  Imperial Star Destroyer sighted.  Warp 9.  Engage.
>
>[interior, ugly steel Imperial starship]
>Sensor Tech:  Captain, we're detecting a disturbance, moving at several
>	times the speed of light!

At warp 9, the time-space "shock cone" has almost zero angle, and is directly
lined up behind the fed ship (much like the shock cone of a mind-bogglingly
hypersonic aircraft).  The fed ship has already shot through the formation,
loosed torps, and left.  The imperial warships not smashed to bits will only
know where the fed was, if the fed travels on far enough before turning around,
they will not know about the second pass until thfed has fired again.   
>
>Imperial Captain:  In normal space?  Show me the readings...
>
>[gibberish on screen]
>
>Imperial Captain:  [chuckles]  The fools!  They're using a warp drive.
>
>Sensor Tech:  A warp drive?  Sir?
>
>Imperial Captain:  An obsolete form of faster than light travel.  The Old
>	Republic abandoned it millenia ago, when the hyperdrive was
>	perfected.  In fact, they probably plan to attack us from warp
>	drive -- target all proton torpedoes, and wait for my mark.
>	Ensign!  Get me the commander of our Interdictor Cruiser --
>	This should be entertaining...

For this to work, the imperial has to know where the fed is to predict where
it will be, and the imperial cannot know this, or they would have blown away
the Millenium Falcon in ANH (lasers were developed from radar microwave
sources, no reason for phasers not to have been developed from subspace 
sensors, and I cannot imagine the imperials passing up on a potential
weapon).
From: pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Ben and Anakin's lightsaber
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:56:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Jul23.145611.311
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

In <N0NaoB2w164w@eebbs.isis.org> horizon@eebbs.isis.org (Ali Azarbar) writes:

>"Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough" , Ben, ANH. 
>How did Ben get a hold of Anakin's lightsaber? Did Anakin give it to him 
>saying "I'm about to become evil now, so just take the saber, and give it to 
>my son of whom I have no idea of his existence when he's old enough. i'll be 
>getting a red one." ;-) Seriously, how did Kenobi get it? Did he cut off 
>Anakin's hand near the lava pit? (Ironic, if he did.)


I think maybe either Anakin had already made, say, his first lightsaber and
proudly said, "This is goona be for my son--when I have one." and maybe
Kenobi was made a god-father or whaterver, so he gave it to him....
 
                                 -OR-

When Kenobi and Anakin (now a bad guy) were dueling, the saber was droped,
or knocked out of his hand and Obi-Wan picked it up and saved it for when
Luke was old enough...even though Anakin/Vader did not know of his
forthcoming birth...

Dave