HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: GLL@fnal.fnal.gov (Gregory Landsberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Sovok
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:18:47 GMT
Organization: SUNY at Stony Broook
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Apr13.160037.16078@apollo.hp.com> goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com writes:

  <...part of citation of my own previous posting is omitted...>

>     No, "sovok" is there to describe a new social phenomenon.  It's no more
>     a slang that any new word in any language.
> 
>     Another example: folks who come from the xUSSR to visit their relatives
>     and friends in the US are called "pilesosi" ("vacuum cleaners") because
>     of what they (often) do to their hosts's garderobes and bank accounts.

Hey, come on! Not  ANY common-used  BY SOME GROUP OF  PEOPLE word in a lan-
guage is a NEW word, i.e. neologism.  The more, SOVOK is not actually a new
word - it is just a new-invented meaning of well known Russian word. It's a
TYPICAL  slang (like  your  example of   ``pylesosy'', like  ``zelenyj'' or
``kapusta'' for notation of $). The  only fact that here, abroad it is used
more commonly  than back to XSSR  reflects only a gap  between emigrant and
domestic culture.  This time this  gap is not in  emigrant favour, however.

Perhaps it will yield a lot of  flames, but it's worth mention that Russian
language is  developed mainly  in dominion  and not abroad.  Of course it's
true not only for Russian but for  almost any language. The good example is
Ivrit which  nearly died  during >1000 years of  diaspora and  was actually
revived in Israel.

So, I repeat that SOVOK is an  example of slang, the more, it is an example
of BAD slang which was originated in the non-intelligent media. A friend of
mine after the  last posting  mentioned that  first time he  heard the word
SOVOK several  years ago in the  company of the childs  of diplomats, trade
representatives  etc.  (which lately  were known  as HOROSHO  UPAKOVANNYE -
another example of  slang). And the way of using  this word by these people
was very unattractive,  because it has a very  clear taste of ``lakejstvo''
(``Holuj,  vybivshijsya v  upravlyauschie''). So, it's  not surprising that
the term spread very fast in the new-born trade-cooperative media in XSSR
and was exported abroad along with petrol, metal and wood.

I  completely agree  with you that  the way this  word is  used here rather
different  from the  way it's  used  there, but  still it's not  a slang of
high-educated people,  and I hope that it will be  forgotten very soon with
the decay of the very place and the very way of life to which word SOVOK is
usually applied.

I deeply regret that I had to use this word several times in this text, but
as A.Ahmatova said once ``Mi zhe v kontse kontsov filologi!''

> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Disclaimer: all opinions are mine.
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Hopefully! <*smile*>

Cheers,

Greg
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:3143 soc.culture.europe:3838
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: I Am Forced To Disagree With You, 'Jason Friedenberg.'
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:50:00 GMT



<1992Apr15.140854.7257@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>
friedenb@gypsum.egr.msu.edu (Jason Friedenberg)

>>So, the Greek educational system is also in a shambles, 'Kotinis.'
>>History shows that within the last 170 years, Greeks played that 
>>game twice: They used Istanbul Patriarch Grigorios in 1822 to 
>>instigate the Morea rebellion that resulted in the massacres of 
>>the Muslim people. Again, the Orthodox Patriarch Constantine V 
>>invited the Russian Czar Nicholas II to invade the Ottoman Empire 
>>'in the name of Jesus,' and save his flock from Ottoman rule. 

>(much of the same deleted here)

>HEY HASAN:
>This is not relevant to talk.politics.mideast, 

I am forced to disagree with you. By your posting, you are 
self-evidently ignorant of what is going on in the Middle East.

>please stick it somewhere else!!!!

Much as I try, I doubt I have reached your 'somewhere else.'

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: ayr@gtech.com (Aleksey Y. Romanov)
Subject: AIWA
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich RI
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:49:36 GMT



Hi, I would like to see SECAM video tapes in USA.  I saw information
about new AIWA VCR  suitable for this porpose. But it seems
impossible to buy AIWA product in USA. Please, give me some hints what
model is it and where to buy.


Thank you


Aleksey Y. Romanov
From: henrik@kpc.com (Henrik Livasgani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: A Review of one of Mutlu's Sources
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:14:19 GMT
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer

In article <1992Apr15.232056.29301@kpc.com>, henrik@kpc.com (Henrik Livasgani) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr15.191433.1390@mits.mdata.fi>, jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla) writes:
|> |> I already stopped going to kebab restaurants owned by Turkish people.
|> |> Shame. I loved those kebabs. But that Mutlu is just such a pissant that
|> |> it gives me great weird pleasure to discriminate any Turkish while he's
|> |> not around.
|> |> 
|> |> -- 
|> |> jjj@mits.mdata.fi   Mind         Heart         No      Me
|> |> jjj@niksula.hut.fi  Difference   Destruction   Death   You
|> 
|>  I hope that "Mutlu" will get this message.  But I dout it !!!!
    You see, he thinks that all of us are waiting manitue by manite
    to read his "BULLSHIT" propaganda. 

|>  Why don'y you Mr. "MUTLU" write to your own newsgroup. Or go write a book
|>  about all this!!!!! You never know it could be hot seller in "Turkey".
|>  
|>  This is simply for "Soviet.Culture". If Hasan claims that thre are 
|>  50 million TURKS in Soviet Union, let us hear from them not MUTLU
|>  that occupies a chair in the University of Michigan !!!!!

    I am mainly interested in wonderful things going on in the present
    Soviet Union and I hope people like Mutlu will stay away and keep
    our disks  less occupied.    

    If I were really interested in TURKISH news, then I would difinitly
    go to that newsgroup !!!!
|> 
|>  Henry
From: mmarkish@FEDS46.PRIME.COM (Mark Markish x2799)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Bones
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:34:56 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

> "na kostyax" ("on the bones").
>
> [a quick quiz for you guys --- do you still remember what this expression
> means?]

Those were the records made of very thick used X-Ray film.
But can you possibly explain, _who_ made them and _how_ ?
[this mystry has been perplexing me for me for about 25 years!]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: frants@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Leonid Frants)
Subject: Re: Edward Wiener is harassing (was Re: Word of Mutlu)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:28:21 GMT

In article <JIME.92Apr16140832@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:
>In article <deleted> wiener@duke.cs.duke.edu (Edward Wiener) writes:
>>   Mutlu Honey,
>>
>>      This is 'Gav*' speaking... Just kidding!
>>      So, what's up, Hasan?  What's new in the world of
>>      the deranged and physically deformed?
>>
>>      Say, how's your boss <deleted> doing at:
>>
>>	(708) <deleted>
>>	<deleted>@ihlpa.att.com
>>
>>      BTW, is your phone number really
>>
>>	(708) <deleted>??? :-)
>>
>>
>>   -- Ed
>
>This message constitutes pure harassment, and should not be tolerated.
>You should be ashamed of yourself, Edward Wiener.  Please lay off.
>
>--
>=Jim  jime%atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)


Edward, for the sake of humanity, can you please repost the numbers - I found
an AT&T long-distance calling card in the street yesterday.

Thanks,

Leonid.
From: linnan@niksula.hut.fi (Matti Linnanvuori)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Russian Four-Letter Words
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:24:07 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland


  Would someone care to post a list of Russian obscene words and
their translations?
  Please include the infinitive of "jebu"!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: frants@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Leonid Frants)
Subject: Chto Pishut v gazetah
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:26:54 GMT

V Novom Russkom Slove, 27oe Marta, 1992:

OB'YAVLENIE:

V Kieve (Minskii r-n) v odnom dome PRODAYUTSYA dve 2-komnatnye kvartiry i
shveinaya mashina "Veritas".


------------------------------------------------------------------

In the local russian newspaper the following ad has been observed:

For sale: in Kiev in the same building for sale are two 1-bedroom
apartments for sale and a Veritas sewing machine.
From: mmarkish@FEDS46.PRIME.COM (Mark Markish x2799)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Revolyutsiya i smert'
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:48:20 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

| From: "Sergey K. Asvadurov" <gt4342d@PRISM.GATECH.EDU>
|
| >Those are the words of Alexander Odoevsky, a "Dekabrist", born a prince,
| >sentenced to 12 years of Siberian mines for conspiracy and participation
| >in the December,1825 revolt, from his response to the famous Pushkin's
| >epistle "Vo glubine sibirskikh rud":
|
| A ne Chaadaev chasom? The quoted Pushkin's poem is written to Chaadaev (as
| far as I know.)

Hardly so. The epistle to Chaadaev which you might have in mind
("Liubvi, nadezhdy, tikhoi slavy...") was written eight years earlier.
From: jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: A Review of one of Mutlu's Sources
Summary: That guy really does a misfavor to the whole Turkey
Date: 15 Apr 92 19:14:33 GMT
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland

I already stopped going to kebab restaurants owned by Turkish people.
Shame. I loved those kebabs. But that Mutlu is just such a pissant that
it gives me great weird pleasure to discriminate any Turkish while he's
not around.

-- 
jjj@mits.mdata.fi   Mind         Heart         No      Me
jjj@niksula.hut.fi  Difference   Destruction   Death   You
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:3139 soc.culture.europe:3834
From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Are 'Kebab' And 'History' An Integral Part Of The...,'Joni?'
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:49:00 GMT


<1992Apr15.191433.1390@mits.mdata.fi>
jjj@mits.mdata.fi (Joni Jarvenkyla)

>I already stopped going to kebab restaurants owned by Turkish people.
>Shame. I loved those kebabs. But that Mutlu is just such a pissant that
>it gives me great weird pleasure to discriminate any Turkish while he's
>not around.

You seem to imply that 'kebab' and 'history' are an integral part of
the pro-Turkish mental framework. Is it really your intent to make
such a statement, 'Joni?' Perhaps your overly sensitized nose is now
able to distinguish the sweet redolence of the bouquet of spices that
are waiting. Your 'iki bucuk yogurtlu' is totally complete now.

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:3042 talk.politics.soviet:3403 soc.culture.german:3029 soc.culture.europe:3706 talk.politics.mideast:10689
From: ns@csd.cri.dk (Nick Sandru)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.mideast,soc.culture.german,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: *NEW* Mutlu Kill file record!
Keywords: mutlu
Date: 13 Apr 92 07:18:13 GMT
Organization: Computer Resources International A/S

This morning - Monday, April 13 - my nn kill file bagged 21 Mutlus and
Cosars - this from a total of 38 articles that came with this night's batch
into talk.politics.soviet. This is the lowest S/N ratio I've ever seen
on t.p.s...

Long Haired Nick

-- 
Nick Sandru - System administrator   | e-mail: ns@csd.cri.dk         (office)
Columbus Space Station SDE Project   |         ns@sandes.cri.dk      (home)
Computer Resources International A/S | phone:  +45 45 82 21 00 x2036 (office)
Bregnerodvej 144                     |         +45 47 98 06 27       (home)
DK-3460 Birkerod, Denmark            | fax:    +45 45 82 17 11
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: pmaggs@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter B. Maggs)
Subject: Re: yet another email question..
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:01:03 GMT

ae313406@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (Vance Kochenderfer) writes:

>  I was wondering, if I sent e-mail to Russia, how would it come out?
>Does the character set in Russian computers include Latin letters,
>or would the message just be garbled?  Can only "English-speaking"
>computers receive an English e-mail message?  Also, how much of
>the message actually makes it across the net and to the recipient?
All computers in Russia are fluent in English as are most computer
nerds there.  Sending English is no problem.  Sending Russian is
a problem because most Russian word processors encode Russian with
eight bit codes and many American computers and networks through away
the eighth bit, since ASCII, used for American email, uses only 7 bits.
The solution is to encode the Russian in ASCII, either using programs
called uuencode and uudecode, which the computer service center at
your university can get you or you can download from somewhere,
e.g., for IBM PC, from wuarchive.wustl.edu, I think in directory
filutil or something like that, or coding the Russian in something
called KOI-77, a wierd mapping of Russian to Latin letters and
miscellaneous symbols (to make up for the fact that the Russian
as more letters in its alphabet.
From: nextug@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: A Review of one of Mutlu's Sources
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:14:51 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Congratulations to Rob Milson for taking the time to thouroughly
check one of 'Mutlu's' sources and uncovering the level of
historical distortion practised by him. Although the absurdities
propounded by him in relation to say, Kurdish citizens of Turkey,
or of Amnesty International, are apparent to all save the most
extreme of sectarian thinkers, his attempts to buttress his
historical arguments with distorted material are less obvious.
As is so often the case, fanatics do a disservice to the 
sometimes valid causes they espouse. Netters who have been
driven to distraction by his unending verbiage and prolific
crossposting should not forget that although 'Mutlu' frequently
employs the pronoun 'we' in his demands for terretorial and other
justice, moderate and reasonable Turks (and Kurds) have pointed
out that 'Mutlu' speaks for no one but himself. Rob Milson has
clearly shown that wht he says may well be distorted to fit the
confines of his narrow arguments.
	Anyone else have the time to check up on more of 'Mutlu's'
sources?
	-- C. Majka
From: VADIM@MPS.OHIO-STATE.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: I'm looking for someone going to Russia
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:48:00 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>


  Hi! If you are going to Russia soon,I'd be very thankful if you pass
a couple of letters there. (American prefered). Thanks a lot.
Vadick.   Please,respond me privatly   VADIM@OHSTPY.BITNET
From: kisa@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Kisa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: E-mail in Russia
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:25:34 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1992Apr6.184941.22062@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> pmaggs@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter B. Maggs) writes:
>ernestk@wam.umd.edu (TERMINATOR III) writes:
>>Does anybody know how to send e-mail in Russia?
>It's just like everywhere else.  You find out the email address
>of the person you want to send mail to and send it, for instance
>mail boris@kremlin.msk.su


I have tried simething like that, but the e-mail was returned by Daemon. 
The system does not seem to recognize @msk.su address.
There has got to be some other way.
                                        Kisa.

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* Komandovat' paradom budu ya!          *  Kisa (The Giant of Thought)        *
*                   - Ostap Bender.     *  kisa@mentor.cc.purdue.edu          *
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: igor@csa.uiuc.edu 
Subject: Re: Babiy Yar (anekdot)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:05:58 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.211233.13164@wam.umd.edu>, ernestk@wam.umd.edu (TERMINATOR III) writes:
|> 
|> 	Hey, Svetlana, what the hell are you doing in Vienna?
That's exactly what I was gonna ask
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe.soc.culture.german,soc.culture.greece,soc.culture.turkish.soc.culture.mid-east
Subject: *AMAZING* new multu "kill" record!
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:36:09 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange


A NEW world record in Classes 1 (by any means) and 2 (unmodified,
single-pass) of the "mutlu kill file filtering competition".
 
Till Poser, of Hamburg, Germany has acheived the all time high  in both
classes with an amazing score!
 
147 "downed" mutlus in a single pass (unmodified) over soc.culture.turkish.
With 648 unread, he had plenty of raw material to work with. It also
deomnstrates that the net-terrorist - mutlu - accounts for almost 25% of all
the posting in that groups - and probably MORE of the volume!

This takes the championship in BOTH classes as the Class one is by ANY means -
including those specified for class 2. 

Till Poser's new record in class 1 surpasses the old record - set only yesterday - by
David Morning of 79. It also surpasses Robert L. Kimmels class 2 record of
57(? can't find my notes - is anyone worried about it, really?)
 
Congratulations to the new world champion! Until the next time!
 
Steve Withers
Self-appointed Moderator of the Mazda 323 car keys and a half-used toilet
role.
-- 
Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | "But the glory kept shining
Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         |  and bright in my eyes, 
Ph. +64 4 478-4714  /                   |  And the stars going round in 
FAX between 6am and 1pm Eastern ST      |  my head." R. L. S.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: viznyuk@physics.ucla.edu (Viznyuk)
Subject: Re: Russian Four-Letter Words
Organization: UCLA Department of Physics
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 02:15:53 GMT

In article <LINNAN.92Apr8122407@hydroman.hut.fi> linnan@niksula.hut.fi (Matti Linnanvuori) writes:
>
>  Would someone care to post a list of Russian obscene words and
>their translations?
>  Please include the infinitive of "jebu"!

Poshel na hui...
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: GLL@fnal.fnal.gov (Gregory Landsberg)
Subject: Re: Portret raboty Pablo Picasso
Organization: SUNY at Stony Broook
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 22:30:46 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <54017@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt4342d@prism.gatech.EDU writes:

> Hi!
> Extending the talk about Picasso: personally I know three anecdotes
> where the name of the famous artist is being used. Who knows more?

<... omitted ...>

> Kto bol'she?
> 
> ================================================================
> Sergey K. Asvadurov

O.K., here is one more. It's a long one!

======================================================================

Moskva, TsDH (Tsentral'niy Dom Hudozhnika), ogromnaya vystavka modernistov.
Probit'sya sovershenno nevozmozhno - u vhoda ogromnaya tolpa, dva kol'tsa
militsionerov - vse kak obychno na takih vystavkah.

Vdrug ko vhody skvoz' tolpy probiraetsya chelovek, nakonets emu udaetsya
dobrat'sya do militsionera, stoyaschego v otseplenii, i on krichit:
``Pustite menya - mne obyazatel'no nado popast' na etu vystavky!''.
Militsioner sprashivaet: 
``A kto vy takoj?'' 
``Ya - Picasso!''
``A kak vy eto mozhete dokazat'? Document u vas kakoj-nibud' est'?''
``Net documentov u menya net, no dajte mne list bumagi i karandash!''
Poluchiv bumagu i karandash on mgnovenno risuet zhenskuyu golovku, stavit
avtograf i otdaet risunok militsioneru. Tot protyagivaet ego iskusstvovedu,
stoyaschemu ryadom i tot podtverzhdaet:
``Da, eto dejstvitel'no Picasso''
Militsioner ego propuskaet na vystavku.

Tol'ko Picasso skrylsya za dver'ju, kak k militsionery probiraetsya drugoj
chelovek i tozhe krichit:
``Pustite menya nemedlenno - mne obyazatel'no nado popast na etu
vystavku!''
``A kto vy takoj?'' 
``Ya - Demichev!'' 
(Minister of Culture in Brezhnev-Andropov-Chernenko and as far as I
remember even in the beginning of Gorbachev period - G.L.)
``A kak vy eto mozhete dokazat'?''
``Da kak eto k chertyam sobach'im mozhno dokazat'! Pustite nemedlenno!''
``Nu kak, vot tut tol'ko chto Picasso prohodil - nabrosal portret i my ego
propustili!''
``A kto takoj Picasso?''
``A, tovarisch Demichev! Prohodite pozhalujsta!''

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Who is next?

Cheers, Greg
From: mmarkish@FEDS46.PRIME.COM (Mark Markish x2799)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: The Karaites
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:28:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: feds46.9204061428.AA07149
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

| From: Hubey <hubey@PILOT.NJIN.NET>
|
| I'm glad you brought this up. In the Atlas of Jewish History it
| says that 10,000 Karaites were killed.  p. 89
|    <...>
| Some people get insulted that they might not be descended from
| 'civilized' French and Germans.

From what I know, it was not the national origin that mattered,
but rather the ideological controversy of the Talmudic vs.
Non-Talmudic Jews.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:3152 soc.culture.europe:3847
From: sasha@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alexander.kostomaroff)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Attention !!!
Summary: Gee, what a deal!
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:07:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>   An organization in Russia wants to lease a piece of bank
>>of famous Seliger lake (not far from St.Peterburg) on the
>>period of 50 years (with a license on the following redemption).
>>Entirely 300.000 square meters (but it may be divided on
>>sections). Payment is 5000$ or 600,000 roubles per
>>10,000 sq.meters.

>>For contacts in Moscow:
>>Phone:(095)331-42-28 Dolmanov I.N.
>>Fax:  (095)436-00-47 for Zaicev C.N. or Dolmanov I.N.
------------------------------------------------------------------------

Also for sale: Etruscan bonds and timeshares in the Tower of Babel Condo.
These new Russian venture capitalists are so-o-o-o-o convincing!

Alexander Kostomaroff
Observer Of Passing Events, Falling Empires, and Human Follies.
From: nikolay@husc10.harvard.edu (Philip Nikolayev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Revolyutsiya i smert'
Date: 12 Apr 92 00:18:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc10.NIKOLAY.92Apr11171800
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: gt4342d@prism.gatech.edu's message of 10 Apr 92 01:03:32 GMT


In article <9204100103.AA00245@prism.gatech.edu>, gt4342d@prism.gatech.edu 
("Sergey K. Asvadurov") writes:

> Article-I.D.: prism.9204100103.AA00245

>>Those are the words of Alexander Odoevsky, a "Dekabrist", born a prince,
>>sentenced to 12 years of Siberian mines for conspiracy and participation
>>in the December,1825 revolt, from his response to the famous Pushkin's
>>epistle "Vo glubine sibirskikh rud":

> A ne Chaadaev chasom? The quoted Pushkin's poem is written to Chaadaev (as
> far as I know.)

Well, you don't know very far.


> Sergey K. Asvadurov

Philip Nikolayev at nikolay@husc.harvard.edu