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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:11:18 PDT
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From:         Todd Fitzgibbon <tfitz@TAPEATS.WR.USGS.GOV>
Subject: Re: Help: running arcedit under Sun's OpenLook windows.
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sue@byron.u.washington.edu writes:

[stuff deleted]
>Problem:

>we open arcedit from an openlook cmdtool window. The arcedit window opens
>ok. Problem's when we start to edit, like say we want to edit labels:
>After selectin the label to edit, we need to move the cursor back manually to
>the cmdtool window to enter the numbers for the labels.

>We would like the edit focus to stay on the arcedit window, but allow us to
>enter the numbers for the edit input from the keyboard WITHOUT having to
>manually move the cursor back to the cmdtool window.  [edited slightly]
[stuff deleted]

Sue,

This appears to be a 'feature' of X-Windows and ARC/INFO.  In pre-rev 6.0
ARC/INFO running under Sunview on Sun workstations, the cursor could be in
either the ARCEDIT commands window or the graphics window, and keyboard input
would be directed properly to the commands window.  Now with ARC/INFO 6.0
and X, the cursor must be moved between the two windows as the input source
shifts from the mouse to keyboard and back; decidedly inconvenient.

ESRI imformed me that this is characteristic of X-Windows and not something
they could rectify in ARC/INFO.  This statement was made over a year ago at
the time of the 6.0 beta release and perhaps things have changed.

Any further thoughts from folks at ESRI, or from X experts on the net?  This
problem isn't  fatal, but it would be nice to correct it.  Thanks in advance.

Todd Fitzgibbon			345 Middlefield Rd. MS-975
Geologist			Menlo Park, CA 94025
U.S. Geological Survey		415-329-4942, FAX 415-329-4936
Western Regional Geology	tfitz@tapeats.wr.usgs.gov
From: dmarble@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (Duane F Marble)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: A New Infrastructure Project - Help Needed!
Date: 26 Jul 92 16:04:43 GMT
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In the next posting to this newsgroup I provide some basic details on
a new project which I hope will contribute to the infrastructure
supporting GIS research and applications. This is a public domain,
master bibliography for the field.

Needless to say, such an effort cannot be successful without the
active support of those concerned. I solicit your cooperation in
this venture.

--
Duane F. Marble            E-mail: dmarble@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Dept. of Geography
The Ohio State University  Telephone:  (614) 292-2250
Columbus, OH 43220         Fax:  (614) 292-6213
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 10:44:21 PDT
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From:         Rich Taketa <TAKETA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Weiler Data Model
              22 Jul 1992 16:24:40 GMT from <stevesmy@MICROSOFT.COM>

Steve

I believe you are refering to Kevin Weiler, who did a dissertation
entitled "Topological Structures for Geometric Modeling" at Rensselaer
Polytechnic Institute. He has also written journal articles on the
same subject, but I don't have the references handy.

Rich Taketa
Department of Geography and Environmental Studies
San Jose State University

taketa@sjsuvm1.bitnet
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:51:55 EDT
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From:         alastair small g <asmall2@MACH1.WLU.CA>
Subject:      GRASS4.0 on Linux
X-To:         GIS List <gis-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu>

I tried posting this to the grass list, but I'm not sure if it's working
properly at the moment, so I'll give it a try here.
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Hi there,

I've been trying to get GRASS4.0 running on Linux 0.96c (a FREE PC unix clone)
and am having more success than I expected. There are a few problems I'm
still having and am hoping that someone will be able to help. I am a new
user to GRASS and no expert at Unix or C, so please excuse me if these
questions are straightforward.

1) When I try to do anything with vectors I get problems. I start up the
display window with d.mon start=x0, from which I can use all the raster
display commands (d.rast, d.3d, d.display, d.histogram etc), but when I use
d.vect, I enter the name of a vector file (i.e. roads from the spearfish
dataset) and it seems to accept it (it prints information about the extents
etc) then it says plotting...., but nothing happens on the display. I manage
to break into the process with Ctrl-C and get back to the GRASS-GRID>
prompt, but as soon as I enter a command and hit return my whole system
freezes (mouse will not move, Ctrl-Alt-Bkspc has not effect on shutting down
X11,) and I have to reboot my machine.

I tried displaying vectors from within d.display but the same happens, I
tried v.to.rast, v.mkgrid etc and they all have the same effect. When I
compiled GRASS, there appeared to be no problems with the vector stuff.
Any Ideas....

(I have tried using different colors for the vectors, setting the region by
using g.region vect=roads then d.erase, and letting it sit for a while
incase it is actually doing something)

2) /grass/src/display/d.profile would not compile correctly. I get the
following error:

	OBJ/main.o: Undefined symbol _cfree referenced from text segment


3) /grass/src/display/devices/XDRIVER/XDRIVER/ would not compile properly
unless I commented out a line in SWITCHER.c. The d.mon command seems to work
fine, but I'd rather know what the problem is with SWITCHER.c. The line I
comment out is #139: setpgrp(0, getpid()). If I leave it in I get the
following error:

	SWITCHER.c: In function 'main'
	SWITCHER.c:139: too many arguments to function setpgrp

I can't find any refence to setpgrp in any of the C books that I have, any
ideas out there.

Any help to these question would be much appreciated, and hopefully I can
get this cheap but powerful system up and running properly :-)

Alastair J. Small
Department of Geography,
Wilfrid Laurier University,
Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA.

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From: ALLANB@OREGON.BITNET (Allan B Branscomb)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: TIGER - city boundary definition
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:44:00 GMT
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A graduate project here is using the RIM database in GRASS for TIGER data,
record types 1 & 2.  We have created maps by selecting features based on CFCC
values but are having trouble selecting features based on more complex
parameters, in particular, city boudaries.

Can anyone tell us how we specifiy a city boundary in TIGER, i.e., which fields
of the records are required and what their values should be?

Thank  you

allan
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 07:31:00 GMT
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From:         BARR@VAX1.GEOGRAPHY.MANCHESTER.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: Whither Auto Carto? On the Future of Technical Conferences in
              GIS
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I vote for (a) - alternating Spatial Data Handling and Auto Carto in even
and odd years and keeping the programmes reasonably distinct.

Bob.

Robert Barr                         Department of Geography
barr@uk.ac.man.go.v1                University of Manchester
Tel +44 61 275 3648/+44 925 754305  Manchester M13 9PL
Fax +44 61 273 4407/+44 925 758590  United Kingdom
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:11:38 EDT
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From:         David Gould <DGOULD@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Arc/Info AML question:
              23 Jul 1992 18:32:31 PDT from <dodson@TOAST.NCGIA.UCSB.EDU>

>Does anyone know how to verify that an item exists when it is
>sed as an argument in an AML?  The [exists] function won't do it,
>and I haven't had any luck with [listitems] and then [search], as
>[search] seems to interpret the item list as many strings (plus that
>method won't work all the time, e.g. it wouldn't find the error if
>I typed the item name "trac" instead of "tract").

>Thanks in advance,

>            ___________________________________________________
>            Rusty Dodson            dodson@toast.ncgia.ucsb.edu
>            NCGIA--Santa Barbara    dodson@voodoo.bitnet
>            ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Rusty,
   Check out the [iteminfo] function, it has an -EXISTS option.

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David Gould                   dgould@uga.cc.uga.edu
U. of Georgia                 dgould@uga.bitnet
Athens, GA
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From: anne@cco.caltech.edu (Anneliese Lilje)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: Postscript Problems
Keywords: postscript, arc/info, ps interpreter
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:52:22 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

In article <1992Jul24.063942.15285@unixg.ubc.ca> brian@jaeger.geog.ubc.ca (Brian Klinkenberg) writes:
>Hi, 
>
>Separator, Illustrator and Postscript -- all of the
>different ways in A/I to produce ps output.  All fail
>similarly.)  It should be noted that the final postscript
>file is BIG, about 1.3 mb.
>
>One thing that might be a big assistance would be 
>a postscript interpreter which informs the user
>where the error in the ps code occurs.  If someone
>knows of such a beast I would appreciate hearing
>about it.
>
>(I know we shouldn't ask A/I questions, but our
>local A/I office knows nothing of postscript --they
>assume peoply only use plotters to produce maps.)
>

Well...this is interesting. What type of printer do you have? Do you have
a printer that has a license for ADOBE postscript??? To say...Oh...our
PostScript printer won't print is pretty abiguous. I have had no proble
getting my output from the DISPLAY commend to print. Can you give me more 
detailed information?


anne
.


>Many thanks for any replies.
>
>cheers, klink
>
>(brian@geog.ubc.ca)
>
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:43:00 MDT
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From:         "JAMES I. EBERT" <EBERT@UNMB.BITNET>
Subject:      Legal GIS?????

I would like to get in touch with all of those of you on this net who
use GIS for legal purposes -- for lawyers, court things, forensic purposes,
mapping, etc.  Please correspond.  I think we should be in touch.  Maybe
we can network on here, if the owners think that's OK.

Best, Jim Ebert EBERT@UNMB.BITNET
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:15:00 EDT
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From:         "SCHLESINGER, PETER" <i43_ps02@RED.WHOI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The GIS Master Bibliography Project
X-To:         gis-l <gis-l@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu>

What are BIBTEX and LATEX? Are these PROCITE-compatible formats?

Peter Schlesinger
The Woods Hole Research Center
i43_ps02@red.whoi.edu
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 09:38:24 EDT
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From:         David_Douglas <DHDAD@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA>
Subject:      AC Conferences.

Just a note to add a, perhaps irrelevant, complication to the matrix,
on the petering-out Auto Carto series of conferences.
I found myself with conference fatigue and funding deficit
after the past three Spring Canadian GIS conferences, and regretted
having to pass up the  last couple of AC conferences. Also,
the Canadian GIS conference, after a couple of years of having a whopping
attendance of over a thousand, has begun to decline in numbers. In committee
I suggested, twice now, that this conference be put on every two or
three years. I find that my suggestions like this take about five years
to take hold, unlike my scientific contributions, minor as they are,
which take twenty years. So in two or three more years I bet the
Canadian conference on GIS, to which many  Americans regularly attend, will
take place every other year, or even every  three years. What the cycle will
be is anyone's guess. I hope it will be an opposite cycle to any
Auto Carto series that might carry on.
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:09:46 -0400
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From:         hoffmann@URZDFN.KARTOGRAPHIE.TU-DRESDEN.DBP.DE
Subject:      TELECOM phone changes !
X-To:         Events around the Berlin Wall <9NOV89-L@DB0TUI11.BITNET>,
              "Geographic Information Systems Discussion List"
              <GIS-L@UBVM.BITNET>,
              Maps and Air Photo Systems Forum <MAPS-L@UGA.BITNET>

Please, keep in mind that today German TELECOM has switched all eastern
phone zip codes to the standard FRG one...
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
That means formerly +37-(zip)-number has to be changed to +49-(new zip)-number.
                     ********                              ************
The new phone zip's are cataloged for whole East Germany in a new fashion.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dresden: old (0051) --> new (0351), my phone:+37-51-4633281==> +49-351-4633281
Berlin:  old (002)  --> new (030, e.g. the old W-Berlin zip)
etc.

F.H., Dresden
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:41:39 HOE
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From:         Carlos Almonacid <GISMAIL@VM1.SDI.UAM.ES>
Subject:      municipal GIS

    The SCUAM is now interested in GIS's applied to municipal and urban
management. If someone can help us please write to my e-address or this
list. Every thing you can send us will be useful for our interests,
bibliography, experiences, failures, etc.

    Thank you very much.

    Carlos Almonacid  and Alberto Rio

Servicio de Cartografia y Cartoteca       Voice: +34 1 397 4580
Modulo de Geografia
Ciudad Universitaria de Cantoblanco       Fax:   +34 1 397 8599
28049 MADRID.
SPAIN
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From: frizado@andy.bgsu.edu (Joseph Frizado)
Subject: Arc/Info version 6 and OpenWindows via MacX
Keywords: Arc/Info, OpenWindows, MacX
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:36:29 GMT


   I need some help configuring MacX and Arc/Info Ver. 6.  My
setup is as follows:
        Sun 4/470 SunOS 4.1.1 and OpenWindows ver. 2.0
        MacX 1.1 under A/UX 2.01 on a MacIIfx
My MacX configuration is fine.  I can run xterm, all of the Island series
of programs and S Plus.  I can run several of the smaller programs, like xclock,
xeyes, etc.  I just cannot get Arc/Info version 6 to run under MacX.
   I have tried the foloowing options so far:
       1.  I start xterm and start arc under it.  The greeting from Arc/Info
           appears. However when I type in &stat 9999, two new ESRI windows
           appear and the system is dead until I Ctrl-C out of it.
       2.  I start a cmdtool window (with or without starting arc as
           part of the command).  When arc starts under this system,
           the same result occurs.
   My questions center around how closely tied is Arc/Info to OpenWindows
versus OpenLook versus X11.  If I open via xterm, the TERM variable is set
to xterm, if I open via cmdtool, the TERM varibale is sun-cmd.  Both produce the
same condition.  Is there something in Arc/Info that will not allow it to run
on "generic" X terminals?  In the Device Supported document, it does place X
terimnals in a 3 category.  Does this really mean you can only run Arc/Info
via X protocols under OpenWindows (i.e. Sun only), or only under OpenLook,
or only under ???.
   Any help will be very much appreciated.

Joe Frizado
*********************************************************
Dept. of Geology, Bowling Green State University
Bowling Green, OH 43403
Tel. 419-372-2490                       FAX 419-372-7205
email  frizado@granite.bgsu.edy  or frizado@andy.bgsu.edu
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:42:29 EST
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From:         JIM ENG <ENG@IPFWCVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: TIGER - city boundary definition

Allan asked how to get boundaries of cities from TIGER.  There may be a
simpler way, but the following works:

Select records for which the field that gives the "place" FIPS code on the
left is not equal to the place code on the right.

Sorry I don't have the tech docs handy and it's been a while since I worked
with TIGER, or I'd give you the name of the fields.


*+     Jim Eng
*+     Indiana-Purdue at Fort Wayne
*+     Phone:       (219)  436-4669
*+     Internet:    ENG@CVAX.IPFW.INDIANA.EDU
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From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Subject: Help: running arcedit under Sun's OpenLook windows.
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:41:26 GMT




Hellow, we'
re
presently running openlok 2.0 on a sun sparc 4.1.1 file server and accessing
arc info remotely through tek xp27 TekXpress.

We use arc 6.0:

Problem:

we open arcedit from an openlook cmdtool window. The arcedit window opens
ok. Problem's when we start to edit, like say we want to edit labels:
After selectin the label to edit, we need to move the cursor back manually to
the cmdtool window to enter the numbers for the labels.

We would like the edit focus to stay on the arcedit window, but allow us to
We would

enter the numbers for the edit input from the keyboard WITHOUT having to
enter


manually move the cursor back to the cmdtool window.


How is this done? We played with .Xdefaults, but no luck:

we tried setting .Xdefaults' *autoFocus:true
*inputFocus: followmouse

*SelectInput: followmouse
*autoRaise: false


and various permutations, no luck, did we miss something simple??

thanx in advance,
sue@byron.u.washington.edu
From: isw@vnet.ibm.com (Ian S Worthington)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 22:13:24 BST
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: WDB files - what compression is used?
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

I have obtained the wdb2-README written by Lars Aronsson from
lysator.liu.se which describes the format of the wdb bdy, riv, and
cil data (.dat) files as '20 byte ASCII records'.

But when I ftp the files from gatekeeper.dec.com they have an extension
of '.cbd' and are binary in nature.

Anybody know what's been used to compress them? Or where I can get the
plain text files from?

In hope...

Ian S Worthington
ALCS Development
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From: jim@drd.com (Jim.Williams)
Subject: GRASS - GIS program
Followup-To: poster
Reply-To: jim.williams@drd.com
Organization: DRD Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:00:32 GMT

I am interested in the GRASS program all of you are talking about. Is
this program public domain or what? If possible, please send me
information and short description of what this program does. Thank you
for your prompt reply all of you geobytes.
-- 
Jim.Williams@DRD.Com     Big Cheese of WellPlan Marketing
(918) 743-3013
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:12:55 GMT
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From:         Robert Weibel <K491170@CZHRZU1A.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Whither Auto Carto? On the Future of Technical Conferences in
              GIS
              22 Jul 1992 00:11:50 GMT from <dmark@ACSU.BUFFALO.EDU>

I would vote for a (keep A-C going in odd-numbered years), provided it
is disconnected from the ASPRS/ACSM Annual Meetings and run as a
standalone symposium. That should help to make it more focused and
international.
Otherwise, I would suggest that attempts are made to turn ISSDH into an
annual series. These kinds of meetings can be run on a relatively low
budget (the group here in Zurich did that twice, as a matter of fact),
so it should be possible to find organizers.

Rob Weibel
Geography, U. of Zurich
K491170@CZHRZU1A.bitnet
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:21:38 EDT
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From:         Tom Schwartzman <FPLX@CORNELLA.BITNET>
Subject:      Digital elevation data for Dom. Republic

I am looking for some digital elevation data for the Dominican Republic.
(contours or DEM-type lattice would be great).  Does anyone have data that
you might be willing to share?  Any public (FTP) repository for these types
of data?

Tom Schwartzman
Cornell University
(FPLX@cornella.cit.cornell.edu)
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From:         i43_ps02@RED.WHOI.EDU
Subject:      Conversion of raster image in Hammer-Aitoff?
X-To:         gis-l@ubvm.bitnet@AQUA.whoi.edu

Does anyone know of a package which can perform a reprojection of a
raster grid starting from Hammer-Aitoff and ending with Plate Carree?
Peter Schlesinger
The Woods Hole Research Center
i43_ps02@red.whoi.edu
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Date: 21 Jul 92 17:21:52 GMT
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That was the most excitement we've ever had from IDRISI-L.
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:44:06 -0400
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From:         hoffmann@URZDFN.KARTOGRAPHIE.TU-DRESDEN.DBP.DE
Subject:      RE: AutoCarto & GIS & ISSDH

Of course, this are problems from the broad US scenario in this field.
It's my personal feeling that
- AC should be connected to tasks of cartomatics (auto-carto-system production)
- GIS should focus on geomatics (auto-geo-analysis and geosystem modelling)
- ISSDH should concentrate on spatial informatics (geo-spatial processing).
All these directions have their overlapping and special R&D directions where
the application field is determinated by generalized or specialized folks
(interdisciplinary or disciplinary)...
A good timing schedule from ICA, IGU and CGS? would be nice for making
coincidence with other regional conference events. That's the way of
cooperation but sometimes I got the feeling of competition between these
different events (with thematic overlapping or redundancy).

Frank Hoffmann, TUD (just now very busy with CAC lab training)... 11-30 CET