HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bcoulson@cs1.uct.ac.za (B C Coulson)
Subject: Re: Alternative to natural-wood-based paper
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 08:07:50 GMT

In article Re:Alternative to natural-wood-based paper craig edward smith 
writes:

>So who is forcing these countries to sell to the U.S.? Your jealous ranting 
>are very hollow.

Buddy boy, if you took a moment to think you'd realise that it is American 
and European companies that are cutting down our and other third world 
nation's forests! And then, our fascist government doesn't give a shit for 
the environment - as long as they get enough fat checques to fuel their own 
corruption and secret funding projects to annihilate the "enemies of the 
state". 

And, if you want to live in a cess pool and garbage heap in Ohio - that's 
fine by me! Yeah - Ohio - the state where you get all your minerals in one 
breath!



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Brendan Coulson	(bcoulson@cs1.uct.ac.za / bcouls@gold.uct.ac.za)
Geology Dept.
University of Cape Town
South Africa
===========================Increase the Peace===========================
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
From: bcoulson@cs1.uct.ac.za (B C Coulson)
Subject: Re: Alternative to natural wood-based paper
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 10:04:28 GMT

Hear, hear!!

Down here, we're fighting a losing battle to protect our indigenous
forests (what little of them is still left) from the state, developers and
paper-pulp concerns.

Frankly, we're getting sick and tired of these developed nations, who've 
already managed to screw up their country, coming over here and abusing
our natural resources in the name of "progress". And then someone like 
George Bush goes over to Rio and derails the clean-up process. 

AAAAAARRGGGGHHH!!!!

Furthermore, in response to the planned shipments of plutonium by 
Japan around the Cape and nuclear and chemical dump sites in Southern 
Africa - South Africa and other countries in Africa are _NOT_ the 
dumpinggrounds of the USA, Japan and others!!!!!

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Brendan Coulson	(bcoulson@cs1.uct.ac.za / bcouls@gold.uct.ac.za)
Geology Dept.
University of Cape Town
South Africa
===========================Increase the Peace===========================
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
From: yachnin@umbc2.umbc.edu
Subject: Looking to network...
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:14:16 GMT



I am a Policy Sciences Ph.D. student at the University of Maryland,
Baltimore County. I like the program because it is very interdisciplinary.
It is also interesting because there are many different types of people
working on different policy areas. My field of interest is environmental
policy.

While I like to learn new things, much of a graduate student's life is 
by-yourself work. I, however, like working with people. I think I make
a good team player. I miss the time when I was a member of the Board of
Directors of a PIRG back in Canada.

Unfortunately, most of the people in my program are part-timers. Therefore,
there is little opportunity for interaction. Additionally, there are not
that many environmental types in the program with which to interact.

So, I am looking for people to network with even if it is only in an 
impersonal electronic way. Anyone interested?

If there are any Canadians out there, I would really like to know what is
going on back home. In other words, what new environmentally disasterous
mega-project has some brilliant person come up with now?) I'm especially
interested in what is going on with the James Bay hydro electric project
(I'm from Montreal).

				Bye for now,

				Peter Yachnin  (yachnin@umbc2.umbc.edu)


P.S.	Since I'm new at this electronic communication stuff, I have a 
	question. When it improper to send a message directly to the
	person originating a posting?
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth,talk.environment,sci.environment
From: pkarani@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: Convention on Biological Diversity, Nairobi, Kenya, Jan. 26-29, 1993
Organization: Clark University
Date: 5 NOV 92 16:09:11 GMT


The Biopolicy Institute of the African Centre for Technology Studies (ACTS) and ACTS, are organizing an international conference on the Convention on BiologicalGlobal Imperatives and National Interests to take place in Nairobi, Kenya on
January 26-29, 1993.

Funding is available for participants from developing countries (SOUTH) and
participants from develped countries (NORTH) are encouraged to find support
from other sources. The meeting will follow up on the issues discussed at earlier ACTS Biodivesity workshop in June 1991, the Rio meeting in June 1992 and also
follow up on the long term Biodiversity and Biotechnology programme of the African Centre for Technology Studies (ACTS).

Recommendations of the conference will be published in a report and distributed to governments, participants, policy makers, research institutions among others.
Papers presented will be published in Biopolicy International ACTS series and
will be widely Circulated.

For further information contact:

1. Dr. Calestous Juma, Conference Secretary, ACTS. Box 45917, Nairobi, Kenya. Tel.254-2-744047, Fax. 254-2-743995; or

2. Mr. John Mugabe, Biopolicy Institute, Tel. 31-43-258499, Fax. 31-43-258433, or

3. Mr. Patrick Karani, Clark University, International Development, Clark
   Universiy, 950 Main Street, Worcester, MA, 01610, USA, Tel. 508-793-7460
   Fax. 508-793-8820
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
From: 891666t@dragon.acadiau.ca (Trish Turliuk)
Subject: Re: environmental computer printers? / short green lament
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1992 23:20:46 GMT

Zed <zed@silver.lcs.mit.edu> writes:
>On an unrelated topic, I've been preparing a case to persude my
>employers (a company of 8000 that loves to distribute paper memos) to
>switch to recycled paper. Toward that end, I'd hoped to be able to
>present them with the alternatives, so I asked Conservatree and Earth

Zed (great name :) )

Why not pursuade them to link up and form some sort of network and then such a
need for paper waste would be unecessary. 

E-mail can save forests 

take care

TR

=-=-=--===-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-----=-=-=-==========-=------------==-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Trying to help make a better world in which to live for ALL 
who try to help make a better world in which to live for ALL
who try...
who try...
From: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk (MICHAEL)
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Subject: LETTER TO WRITE.... NOW!
Keywords: Montreal Protocol
Date: 9 Nov 92 21:31:16 GMT
Reply-To: bane@vtx.ma.man.ac.uk
Organization: Magic Michael's Mushroom Factory.


Sorry if this is a bit UK-based but feel free to cut it, paste it
into yer fav text-mangler and post it to yer MP/senator/new president/whatever.


????????????????,
House of Commons,
London
SW1A 0AA


Dear ?????????????,


POINTS TO MAKE:
* the Montreal Protocol is being renegotiated this month. 

* Recent scientific findings warn of serious risks of substantial
    losses of ozone in the Arctic, including above the United Kingdom. 

* all ozone depleting substances must be phased out as soon as possible.

* A UNEP (United Nations Environment Programme) showed earlier this year
   that a phase out of the chemical methyl bromide would have the same
   effect as bringing forward the phaseout dates for CFCs and carbon
   tetrachloride by three years. 

* The ozone depleting properties of methyl
   bromide have been discovered only recently

* methyl bromide is currrently not covered by the Montreal Protocol. 

* methyl bromide is used as a pesticide and fumigant to
   kill mites, insects, rodents and weeds, 

* methyl bromide is used during the production/storage of food and
   therefore regulatons concerning the use of methyl bromide needs to be
   approved by the Ministry of Agriculture, Fisheries and Food (MAFF)

* alternatives for many used of methyl bromide are currently available

* methyl bromide may be lethal to humans

* Netherlands has phased out use of methyl bromide cos of its toxicity
   and danger to human health


URGE MP TO DO:
*  all in your power to ensure that the Government pushes for the
    earliest possible phaseout date for methyl bromide to be included
    in the Protocol. 

*  to write to John Gummer MP (Minister for Agriculture) requesting
   his support for an early phaseout of methyl bromide and ask the
   Minister how he will encourage the replacement of this chemical
   with alternatives.  

REMEMBER TO ASK YOUR MP TO LET YOU KNOW WHAT S/HE DOES AND ASK FOR ANY
REPLIES S/HE GETS FROM GUMMER


Yours sincerely,
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
From: rajat@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu (Rajat Kapoor)
Subject: Food for thought... was Re: Ethanol fuel
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 03:35:57 GMT




Food for thought :

Use of ethanol as fuel is one way of maintaining CO2 equilibrium...

The plants remove CO2 from atmosphere, trap as glucose, and then release
the same carbon back to the atmosphere as CO2 in an incredible short
time ! Much better than petroleum ...   

In essence, we have an efficient trap for solar energy...

Incidentally, the other way of CO2 removal is through lime deposit on
the ocean floor...
an extremely, extremely slow process.


Rajat Kapoor

" Soon there will be a time when beer keg taps would be a standard
accessory with ethanol exclusive cars "
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Subject: Re: Alternative to natural-wood-based paper.
Date: 6 Nov 1992 08:52:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  There was a recent thread on hemp on sci.environment but it
may be taken off by now as too dated.
Hemp obviously has a controversial side, regrettable since
it has been used very successfully for paper and a number
of other useful products.  The older USDA yearbooks have
chapters discussing hemp farming and I believe some of the
books are made of hemp paper, seem to be in very good shape.
Besides kenaf which is still being researched and a number
of other plants, don't forget bamboo which makes excellent
  paper and is extremely fast growing, with very strong
fibers.  Logging forests for paper should be phasing
out, but it requires a major shift in economic sectors
and careful planning needs to be done to replace jobs,etc.
My opinion is: the sooner the better.


-- 
Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
            looks promising.... |-)
From: b_nbca@icarus.lbl.gov (Bruce Nordman)
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Subject: Re: Alternative to natural-wood-based paper.
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:39:38 GMT
Reply-To: b_nbca@icarus.lbl.gov (Bruce Nordman)
Organization: lbl
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.154

In article <1992Nov5.200357.22426@cis.ohio-state.edu>,
csmith@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith) writes:
|> jkumar@akocoa.enet.dec.com (My name is Jayant Kumar) writes:
|> >I would like to learn from you whether (a) there is a commercially viable &
|> >economic process of producing synthetic paper? (b) If so, why have not
|> third
|> >world countries adapted this technology?
|> 
|> Of course there is synthetic paper! It is made of plastic which comes from
|> oil,
|> another thing environmentalists don't want us to use. It doesn't matter what
|> you choose, there is some environmental WACKO who will say that we shouldn't
|> use it. Wood fibre paper is renewable, recyclable, biodegradable, and the
|> most
|> economical alternative.

Of course paper CAN be all of these, but often it is not.
For some purposes, plastic paper is quite desirable -- maps that
get folded or wet a lot are a good example.  Paper can be made
from hemp, kanaf, and probably many other kinds of plants.

Bruce
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
From: pld@fc.hp.com (Paul_Dineen)
Subject: Articles on companies that pollute?
Organization: HP CLO/CoLL, Fort Collins, CO
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 21:16:42 GMT

 Does anyone have references to articles on large companies that release
 toxic/carcinogenic substances into the atmosphere?

 My wife a grad student a Colorado State University here in Fort
 Collins, Colorado.  She is participating in a research project on
 boards of directors of large corporations.  One thing the researchers
 want to examine is the links, if any, between the members of boards of
 directors of such corporations.  They are intending to publish the
 results of this research.
From: ahughes@jarthur.claremont.edu (The Fool)
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
Subject: Re: Alternative to natural-wood-based paper.
Date: 6 Nov 92 03:23:47 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <1992Nov5.200357.22426@cis.ohio-state.edu> csmith@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith) writes:
>jkumar@akocoa.enet.dec.com (My name is Jayant Kumar) writes:
>>
>>Hi netters,
>>
>>I would like to learn from you whether (a) there is a commercially viable &
>>economic process of producing synthetic paper? (b) If so, why have not third
>>world countries adapted this technology?
>
>Of course there is synthetic paper! It is made of plastic which comes from oil,
>another thing environmentalists don't want us to use. It doesn't matter what
>you choose, there is some environmental WACKO who will say that we shouldn't
>use it. Wood fibre paper is renewable, recyclable, biodegradable, and the most
>economical alternative.

Actually, I've heard very good things about the possibilities inherent in
hemp paper. I hear that it compares with trees in terms of paper output per
acre and is more quickly renewable by a long shot. Anyone out there have the 
figures on this?

				The Fool
				    ;-)
Newsgroups: alt.save.the.earth
From: csmith@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith)
Subject: Re: Alternative to natural-wood-based paper.
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:03:57 GMT

jkumar@akocoa.enet.dec.com (My name is Jayant Kumar) writes:
>
>Hi netters,
>
>I would like to learn from you whether (a) there is a commercially viable &
>economic process of producing synthetic paper? (b) If so, why have not third
>world countries adapted this technology?

Of course there is synthetic paper! It is made of plastic which comes from oil,
another thing environmentalists don't want us to use. It doesn't matter what
you choose, there is some environmental WACKO who will say that we shouldn't
use it. Wood fibre paper is renewable, recyclable, biodegradable, and the most
economical alternative.

>It makes me so sad to see the so called developed countries marauding the
>third world countries's forests at the cost of keeping their forests intact!!!
>And on top of that, we have to hear them talk of environment/pollution. It
>is pathetic to see 3rd world countries suffer because of the fancies of
>developed countries.

So who is forcing these countries to sell to the U.S.? Your jealous ranting
are very hollow.

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Craig Edward Smith (csmith@cis.ohio-state.edu)


Newsgroups: alt.emusic
From: mciver@alpo.cs.colorado.edu (William McIver Jr.)
Subject: Jazz Guitar: Russell Malone
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:29:14 GMT


Has anyone checked out the new release by Jazz
Guitarist Russell Malone on Columbia?

What do you think?

-------------------------------------------
The CD is _Russell Malone_ (Columbia CK 52825)

This is a debut recording for Malone. It contains
a wide range of material from tunes in the Wes Montgomery
vein, Blues, and Solo Classical Guitar (Flowers For Emmet Till).

The compositions are "obscure" standards and two original tunes.

See the October (September ?) isse of JazzTimes for a brief article on
Russell.


tracks:
-------
 1. Wives And Lovers (David/Bacharach)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Donald Brown: Piano
   Robert Leslie Hurst III: Bass
   Yoron Israel: drums

 2. Invisible Colors (R. Malone)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Donald Brown: Piano
   Robert Leslie Hurst III: Bass
   Yoron Israel: drums

 3. When I Take My Sugar To Tea (Fain/Norman/Kahal)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Milt Hinton
   Shannon Powell: drums

 4. It's The Talk of The Town (Symes/Neiburg/Livingston)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Milt Hinton
   Shannon Powell: drums

 5. St. Louis Blues (W.C. Handy)
   Russell Malone: Acoustic Guitar
   Milt Hinton

 6. I Don't Know Enough About You (Barbour/Lee)
   Russell Malone: Acoustic Guitar/Vocals
   Harry Connick, Jr.: piano

 7. Close Your Eyes (Petkere)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Milt Hinton
   Shannon Powell: drums

 8. London By Night (Coates)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Donald Brown: Piano
   Robert Leslie Hurst III: Bass
   Yoron Israel: drums

 9. I Can't Believe That You're In Love With Me (McHugh)
   Russell Malone: Acoustic Guitar
   Harry Connick, Jr.: piano

 10. Moonlight Serenade (Parish/Miller)
   Russell Malone: Electric Guitar
   Donald Brown: Piano
   Robert Leslie Hurst III: Bass
   Yoron Israel: drums

 11. Flowers For Emmett Till (R. Malone)
   Russell Malone: Classical Guitar

 12. Precious Lord (T. Dorsey)
   Russell Malone: Acoustic Guitar
   Milt Hinton
   Shannon Powell: drums
------------------------------------------------





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Newsgroups: alt.emusic
From: fsgab@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Yamaha QY-10???
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:12:54 GMT

Sorry for being a little behind, but just what is this QY-10 thing?
From what I can gather, it's a little sequencer with sounds and some sort of
input.  It looks portable; does it use batteries?  This may be just what I'm
looking for, but I can't tell.  Many kicks in the head to Yamaha for giving me
a cute little add with no specs whatsoever.  

Does anyone know where I can get a used one? How much?
How about the rack mounted version with RS-232?

Maybe someone could post a review.....

Thanks, Grant Beaugard

WARNING -- Too much Negativland will make you shave your head.  It happend to
me, and it could happen to anyone.
From: jons@stud.cs.uit.no (Jon Vidar Schneider)
Newsgroups: alt.emusic
Subject: The Real book
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:12:21 GMT
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway

Is there anyone who can sell me The Real Book....

It's illegal here where I live, so I must buy from someone
abroad.

Please contact me..... I will pay you great


I must have it in B, because I play Tenorsaxophone and I like to Jam.








Please mail me a letter if you're interested.......



Jon Vidar Schneider
Beverveien 13
9017 TROMSOE
NORWAY

jons@stud.cs.uit.no
Newsgroups: alt.emusic
From: twt@mindlink.bc.ca (Tom W. Tomlinson)
Subject: New 808 State album & RFI
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 18:17:38 GMT

Hi.  I read in a British music magazine that 808 STATE have released a new
album called _Gourgeous_ : has anyone heard it?  Also, does anyone know the
meaning of the group's name?   Please reply via E-mail to twt@mindlink.bc.ca
.
Thanks /Tom
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Newsgroups: alt.emusic
From: mciver@alpo.cs.colorado.edu (William McIver Jr.)
Subject: Club Dates: Russell Malone (Jazz Guitar)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:35:55 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.music.bluenote
Subject: Dates: Russell Malone
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Keywords: guitar show concert


Jazz Guitarist _Russell Malone_ will be playing the following dates:

1. Boston, Nov 16, Schuler's (sp ?)

2. Costa Mesa, California, Nov 21, (location ?), 
    ** with Branford Marsalis **

3. Los Angeles, Nov 24, Lenaria

4. Chicago, Dec 10, Jazz Oasis

5. New York, Dec 14, The Bluenote


He will have several exciting musicians from Atlanta
with him (George Grier, bass; Gary Motley, piano;  ????, drums).

------------------------------------


WJM


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Newsgroups: alt.emusic,comp.music,rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
From: miguelr@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (miguel.a.rivera)
Subject: WANTED: MIDI file format and MPU-401 library ref.
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:40:23 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: MIDI,MPU-401,Synths,Seq

I would like to find a reference to document/file that describes the format
of a MIDI file. I am also interested in the specs and PD software
library to read/write to the MPU-401 chip for DOS and Windows
environments.

All resposes are welcome.

Please post responses and/or send them directly to me at the
following addresses:

	miguelr@cbnewsj.att.com
	miguelr@ihlpe.att.com

Thanks in advance,
Miguel A. Rivera
AT&T Bell Labs.
Naperville, IL 60563

Newsgroups: alt.emusic
From: fsgab@richard.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Grant A Beaugard)
Subject: Re: WANTED: 88 Key Electronic Keyboard
Organization: University of Alaska Computer Network
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:42:48 GMT

In article <12NOV199214523819@utrcv1> wjm@utrcv1 (Bill) writes:
> I'm posting for a friend, so please send mail directly to him at:
> 
> internet address =  ALLARD@CTOAVX.ENET.DEC.COM
> 
> WANTED: A basic 88 key electronic keyboard.  MIDI, extensisve sound  
effects, 
> and other fancy features NOT needed. 
> 
> Something around $200.

Me too....but I would sacrifice keys for some sort of MIDI...
I'm really interested in analog..  Someone help a starving student...
From: ST201943@brownvm.brown.edu ()
Newsgroups: alt.emusic
Subject: Vision Patch
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:04:32 EST
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
Reply-To: st201943@brownvm.brown.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

Hi, does anyone out there have a patch for Vision to get rid of the "Insert
Key disk" Dialog if the program is used on a computer other than the one that's
been Hard Disk installed. The problem is that I've used up my installations on
my own Macs, so when I want to use Vision on a school computer, I have to carry
around my master disks. No doubt, I'll wind up destroying them sooner or later.

                                 Jason Duva
                                 st201943@brown.edu

PS- PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE don't start flaming about the merits of copy
protection, and the evils of piracy. First of all, I've heard it all before.
Second, I OWN Vision, and I don't plan on giving it out. If you don't believe
me, E-mail me, and I'll tell you the serial number on my disk.
JASON DUVA
ST201943@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.emusic
From: wjm@utrcv1 (Bill)
Subject: WANTED: 88 Key Electronic Keyboard
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:52:00 GMT

I'm posting for a friend, so please send mail directly to him at:

internet address =  ALLARD@CTOAVX.ENET.DEC.COM

WANTED: A basic 88 key electronic keyboard.  MIDI, extensisve sound effects, 
and other fancy features NOT needed. 

Something around $200.

Newsgroups: alt.emusic