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From: saiki@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eileen Saiki)
Subject: Re: The opener
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:24:12 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.173207.23753@news.vanderbilt.edu>, mwmv@athena.cas.vanderbilt.edu (Michael Mogensen-Vermillion) writes:
|> My wife and I went back and replayed our videotape of the episode last
|> night.  Although he mumbled the line to some extent especially the
|> first word, I played it three times and _I_ am sure he said
|> 
|>             I'll try not to get excited
|>             ^^^^


   At last!! That's what I heard!!!!
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From: jhansen@convex.com (James Hansen)
Subject: Re: NEXP On Saturdays?
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:07:19 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Tom Vervaeke writes:

>Many, many shows are sent out from the networks to the local affiliates
>in advance. Some less than a day in advance, some weeks in advance.  I
>regularly watch Jeopardy episodes in advance (can't wait).

There's a difference between syndicated shows like "Jeopardy" and network
programming like NX.  They are uplinked in advance for different reasons.
Syndicated shows like Donahue, Oprah, Wheel of Fortune, etc. are uplinked
in advance so that TV stations can air them at their convenience.  Network
programming is uplinked primarily for Mountain time zone affiliates and
for Canadian television.

>I did not manage to watch the season premiere this weekend as I was out,
>but I'm pretty sure it was sent on Saturday.  

Last season, it was uplinked on Telstar 301 at 10:00am Eastern on Saturday.
I haven't looked for it yet, but I hope it's there again.

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From: jdraves@hydro1.gsfc.nasa.gov (John Draves)
Subject: Re: John Collum
Reply-To: jdraves@hydro1.gsfc.nasa.gov (John Draves)
Organization: NASA/GSFC Hydrospheric Sciences Branch
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:15:03 GMT

The representative in question is John Rutledge of South Carolina.  He gave
an excellent performance of the song about the Triangle Trade.

JD Draves
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: What exactly did Joel say?
Date: 2 Oct 92 03:07:17 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Oct1.233835.446@uts.cc.wayne.edu>, tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu 
(Thomas Richard Stevenson) writes:

>>The "I'll" is not loud, but it IS there.  
> It's just like NX to put that line in here in that way. By making
> the "I'll" easy to miss, it gives each of us the chance to see it
> the way we want to believe it. With and without the "I'll" the lines
> mean two different things. It's little things like this that make
> this show a great show!

Or....coulda just been a faulty microphone.

<ducks as large rocks are throw>

Sorry.

Greg Bole                              "I haven't seen this many sideburns
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  since West Side Story."
                                       Nicholas Cage in _Honeymoon in Vegas_
From: kpatel@roger-rabbit.cs.berkeley.edu (KETAN DASHARATH PATEL)
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Subject: Anchor Steam Beer
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:23:00 GMT
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: roger-rabbit.cs.berkeley.edu

Hi,

Love the show, love the newsgroup.
I saw someone mention Anchor Steam beer being served at the Brick,
and thought I would comment.
Being from SanFrancisco (home of the wonderful Anchor Steam) I have
noticed references to Anchor Steam no less than 10 times on the show
including the Anchor Tap at the Brick. In addition to being the beer
served at Adam's stag party, it was also the beer drunk by Ed and Joel
when Ed kept Joel company at Joel's house when the ghost came back. 
The funny thing is that there are a LOT of Seattle beers they could 
have chosen to add local flavor or they could have gone with Henry's,
the quintessential Oregon beer that's been around for a long time and
very popular on the West Coast. My personal theories:

	* Anchor paid some cash.
	* The writers drink it.
	* The writers are cashing in on Anchor's growing popularity 
	  across the nation. Unlike Henry's, Anchor is distributed on
	  the East coast as well and is quickly being recognized as one
	  of the best beers around (for my money, it beats Sam Adams into
	  dust). Come on Bostonites, flame on!
	* The intelligent, caring people of Cicely would drink nothing
	  less than an Anchor Steam.

Ketan Patel
kpatel@cory.berkeley.edu
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From: pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu (Paul Ciszek)
Subject: Re: Ed's outfit during the dream sequence?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 03:46:40 GMT

dadler@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (David Adler) writes:

>I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before. During Maggie's
>dream sequence, when Joel and Ed "enter" the dream, Ed is dressed
>in something that looks like more traditional Indian garb than

To be precise, it is *TACKY*, stereotypical "Indian" garb, like something
one might buy in a gift shop in Arizona.

--
Paul Ciszek, pciszek@nyx.cs.du.edu | No nation was ever drunk when wine was
                                   | cheap.   -- Thomas Jefferson
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Tuesday, 29 Sep 1992 15:14:12 EDT
From: <IO20393@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
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Subject: Re: "Cicely" sighting

Actually, the actress who played Cicely plays(ed) the chracter of Lou
on Young Riders.  (I 'm not sure of tense since it may have been cancelled)
Anyway, if you liked the actress, she's fantastic in that series.
amy rae
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From: usagi@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Erin Sasaki)
Subject: Quotes List
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:27:57 GMT


Hi everyone -

	The NEXP quotes distribution list has been reincarnated (finally!).
If you are interested in more information, or in joining, please send mail
to usagi@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu.  The quotes from all episodes from 1.1 to 3.10
have been transcribed ... hopefully the rest of the third season will be
caught up soon, and we'll be on top of the weekly episode.  

	If you are sending mail to join the list, please specify a good
e-mail address and whether or not you wish to receive the quotes via mail,
or if you would prefer to anonymous FTP them.

						
					Erin Sasaki
					usagi@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu


PS.  Mike Northam and Henry Yu, I received mail bounces from your old
address.  Please send me a new mailing address!
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From: GUEST7@ctrvx1.Vanderbilt.Edu (GUEST7)
Subject: Anchor Steam Beer
Organization: Vanderbilt University
Distribution: alt.tv.northern-exp
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:30:58 GMT

Another beer note: I could have sworn in last night's episode I saw a neon
sign hanging in the Brick that said "Stoney's".  I think it was when
Maurice was dictating and Shelly was asking him about salad dressing.
Unfortunately I didn't tape it so could someone who did possibly confirm it?

For those who don't know, Stoney's is a regional brew from Western PA and is
produced by Jones Brewing in Smithon, PA (a stone's throw from my hometown).
My theory is that since both Chris Steven's and the actor who plays him are
from nearby Wheeling (where Stoney's may be available) he could've gotten the
sign for the set.  Just a thought!

David
antistec@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu

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From: sharonc@meaddata.com (Sharon Crichton)
Subject: Re: Who died of what?
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:10:03 GMT
Reply-To: sharonc@meaddata.com
Distribution: na

In article <cemRbBu00WA1E2TnoL@andrew.cmu.edu>, km2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Kenneth E. Mohnkern) writes:
|> 
|> In light of the last episode, could someone please post a list of
|> Maggie's late boyfriends and causes of their demises?
|> 
|> I know I've seen it before...

From the FAQ:
D. How have the various boyfriends of Maggie O'Connell met their deaths?

This is known as the curse of Maggie O'Connell-- every serious boyfriend
she has ever had has died in some gruesome accident. The latest was Rick
Pederson, who was played by Grant Goodeve in the first season (until his
untimely demise).  Until her house burned down, Maggie had small shrines
to each boyfriend on her mantel.

        Harry ---- potato salad at a picnic

        Bruce ---- victim of a terrible fishing accident

        Glenn ---- took a wrong turn in his Volvo onto a missile test site

        Dave  ---- fell asleep on a glacier and froze to death

        Rick  ---- hit by a satellite

This is from the eulogy given at Rick's funeral by Chris [Slow Dance].

Additions after season premiere [Northwest Passages]:

        Steve ---- struck by lightning while working on an oil rig
                (revealed during Maggie's hallucination)

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From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Monday's "Midnight Sun" episode.
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 20:26:57 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1992Oct6.180806.8349@cbfsb.cb.att.com>
jweber@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (jodi.weber) writes:
>On last night's show, Chris talked about the sun setting for the first
>time in a while.  Does anyone know if that means Cicely is/is not above
>the Arctic Circle?  i.e., does the sun stay up all the time during some
>part of the year even below the Arctic Circle?

This means Cicely is N of the Arctic Circle.
This also means S of the Arctic circle: the sun dips below the horizon,
but not very far.  The Sun never stays up 24 hours S of the Arctic circle
at any time of year.  Like Anchorage gets 2 hours of "dark" at solstice.

Oh, first, a geographic literacy question (not just for Jodi):
	What's the latitude of the North Pole?

You can test set/rise for yourself. Get a globe (a map will not do)
[A Geochron(tm) can be a useful substitute if you know how to adjust them.]
and point a bright lamp.  Make certain the globe is the correct tilt
(do you know this?).  Config your model sun and model earth to June 21 or so.
Turn (spin) your globe.  You can pretend you are anywhere north of the Circle
by moving your eye position and checking for shadow (night).  An especially
dark room will help a lot.

You can also find certain Time-Life books showing the traversal of the sun
on Solstice at the North or South pole: a full 360 over the horizon.
This requires some library digging.

Keywords: ephermis, sky(6), solar geometry,

BTW: AT&T Bell Labs has some software which will simulate a globe on an
SGI Iris.  Don't use one of these.  Your model Sun will be of no value.
Ditto certain Evans & Sutherland units.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Acting Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
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From: daniel@genghis.borland.com (Dan Veditz)
Subject: Re: The Length of Joel's Stay in Cicely
Originator: daniel@genghis.borland.com
Keywords: Joel
Organization: Borland International
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:36:53 GMT

v224a2ju@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
>I wouldn't worry about how long he's been there and how much longer he
>has...as in other tv shows, the writers will keep it going as long as
>it's getting the rating points.
>
>For example, a number of the 'gifted' students in "Head of the Class"
>were in HS for the whole run of the show which was something like 7 real 
>years.
>
>TV time tends to be a bit surreal, wouldn't you say?

How long has Charlie Brown been a kid--40 years or so?  The Korean
War lasted 11 years on M*A*S*H, Calvin will always be in first grade,
the Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew apparently crammed all those adventures
into a one or two year span of their lives.

Joel's four years could last forever without comment, or if
people really start to wonder why he's still there there are any
number of things the writers could do to keep him there.

Dan Veditz
daniel@borland.com
From: tracy@mojo.ots.utexas.edu (Tracy LaQuey Parker)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Janine Turner
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:28:54 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas

In article <1992Sep25.031555.7833@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> molin@crs.cl.msu.edu (Michael Olin) writes:
>tracy@mojo.ots.utexas.edu (Tracy LaQuey Parker) writes:
>>Janine, with long blond hair, was on "General Hospital" around 1983-1984.  I
>>don't remember how long she was on the show.  I think her character's name
>>was Laura.
>The Laura (of Luke-and-Laura fame) you are thinking of was played by
>Jeanie Francis (sp?)
>            -MOlin

No, I wasn't thinking of the Luke-and-Laura Laura.  There was more than
one Laura.  Someone else mentioned her (Janine's character) name was Laura
Templeton.

--Tracy LaQuey Parker
  tracy@utexas.edu
--
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Posted for my girlfriend
Date: 28 Sep 92 01:32:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Sep25.174259.16013@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, 
pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay) writes:

> A friend of mine was wondering if there is some sort of book out on
> the market that has a compilation of Chris' thought-provoking dialogue?
> If not, she was thinking that it would be a good idea to compile
> choice peices of Chris's dialogue (or complete versions of the
> more famous, intriguing ones) into a book and structure the book
> into a "thought-of-the-day" kind of format.

Sounds like it would work much better as a daily calender.  You know, the
kind that you rip each day off, and they have a quote or a one panel comic
strip (oxymoron?) on them?  I think it's a great idea.

Greg Bole                              "I haven't seen this many sideburns
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  since West Side Story."
                                       Nicholas Cage in _Honeymoon in Vegas_
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From: dadler@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (David Adler)
Subject: Ed's outfit during the dream sequence?
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 16:04:06 GMT

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned before. During Maggie's
dream sequence, when Joel and Ed "enter" the dream, Ed is dressed
in something that looks like more traditional Indian garb than
the usual blue jeans. Any thoughts on the significance of this?
Is this how Maggie sees Ed, or is it in reference to Joel's 
statement about Ed being a "tracker"?

Dave

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From: frist@ccu.umanitoba.ca ()
Subject: Re: Season Premiere
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:57:45 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.195851.7785@isc-br.isc-br.com> lenh@access.isc-br.com (Len Humbird) writes:
>That sort of puts the nail in the coffin as to why the producers wouldn't let
>Joel sleep with Maggie last season. To stay consistent with Maggies other bo's,
>Joel would have had to die, and the show cancelled. 

I think that if the writers are clever enough (of which there is no doubt),
Joel can "uh- do it" with Maggie and live to tell about it. In fact, once
the deed is done, they should be able to milk the question of Joel's
potential doom for suspense for several episodes. The question can finally
be resolved in the following scenario:

Maggie begins to have misgivings about whether or not her "curse" will 
apply to Joel, and becomes increasingly aprehensive. Perhaps Joel will
have a number of near misses. Joel, or course, is the rationalist, and
refuses to believe that they're anything other than coincidences.   Maggie,
on the other hand, is convinced that fate is about to catch up to Joel.
Perhaps the entire town gets caught up with the idea. Finally, with or
Marylin, or perhaps Marylin's uncle (the medicine man who spent several
days observing Joel's practice in a previous show )  are called upon to 
prescribe an ancient cure for the "curse". 

The cure is a series of rituals that only Maggie can perform. They involve
things that seem silly and annoying to Joel, who gets sick of them very
quickly. Suddenly, Joel is missing, and no one can find him for several
days. Maggie is sure that Joel has cashed his check, but the medicine
man prescribes a ceremony to be performed outside Joel's cabin at
midnight. 
The ceremony is attended by all the regulars, and just as it reaches
its climax, Joel drives up. He is annoyed at the ceremony, and says that
the reason he was gone in the first place was that Maggie's rituals were
driving him to distraction. At that moment, a tree falls on the cabin,
crashing into Joel's bedroom. In effect, Maggie has saved Joel's life
by annoying him into staying away. The curse is broken.

That's my speculation. Let's see what the writers of NX will actually do.
  
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From: iovine@columbine.cs.colorado.edu (Francesca Iovine)
Subject: Re: John Collum
Organization: Universtiy of Coloardo, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 16:40:18 GMT



On the subject of Collum's past performances: didn't
he also play a psychiatrist w/ barbra streisand as his
patient in 'On A Clear Day You Can See Forever' which
played on broadway (then was made into a movie)?

Maybe in some upcoming espisode his character will belt 
out a show-tune...
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From: catfood@wariat.org (Mark W. Schumann)
Subject: Re: Monday's "Midnight Sun" episode.
Organization: Akademia Pana Kleksa, Publi Access UNI* Site
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:27:07 GMT

hwnunes@leland.Stanford.EDU (Henry Walter Nunes) writes:
>I just want to see what their excuse is going to be to say that Cicely is located in the arctic circle when all along, Cicely apparently had normal day and night periods.

Hey!  Watch that word-wrap!  :-)

In response to your comment, though, it seems as though the midnight
sun lasted for only a few days.  Cicely could be just slightly over
the Arctic circle, then, and the length of the days most of the year
would thus be not too far out of whack.

-- 
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From: harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris)
Subject: Re: What exactly did Joel say?
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date:  6 Oct 92 04:43:03 GMT

bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:

>In article <1992Oct1.233835.446@uts.cc.wayne.edu>, tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu 
>(Thomas Richard Stevenson) writes:

>>>The "I'll" is not loud, but it IS there.  
>> It's just like NX to put that line in here in that way. By making
>> the "I'll" easy to miss, it gives each of us the chance to see it
>> the way we want to believe it. With and without the "I'll" the lines
>> mean two different things. It's little things like this that make
>> this show a great show!

>Or....coulda just been a faulty microphone.

I'll agree with the "NX put that line in here in that way" theory. I am
sure whenever a taping is completely, the tape is viewed in its
entirety. It would be easy for the producers to see that line was
mumbled, & to dub over it if they had wanted it to be clearer.

..........posted for the missus (Beverly H.)

--
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From: lksmith@truth.mitre.org (Smith)
Subject: Re: Where is the Town of Cicely in Alaska?
Organization: The MITRE Corp., Bedford, Ma.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:08:58 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.232413.24646@riacs.edu> watson@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John S. Watson - FSC) writes:
>
>In one of the episodes from the first season,
>that they indicated on a map that Cicely was somewhere on the interior
>the Kenai peninsula.  This fits because 1) fairly close to Anchorage,
>2) relatively large trees 3) never perpetually dark in winter 
>and 4) never incredibly cold (i.e. more like Anchorage weather, 
>not Fairbanks).
>
>Even on the Kenai though, there are days in the summer where it
>really doesn't get to dark. I wish they'd do an episode where
>some of the characters go batty because of that,  and one episode
>where they go batty from it being  dark most the time.
>

(TV Guide spoiler...)


:-) :-)  According to the TV Guide for next week, you just might
be getting one of those wishes. :-) :-)



Linda
lksmith@truth.mitre.org
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From: ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile)
Subject: Maurice/Tulsa???
Keywords: yes
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:43:17 GMT

In answer to the "Is Maurice from Knoxville?" query, alrosser@cco.caltech.edu
writes to the effect that YES, in the episode in which Maurice and Holling
take to the wilderness to bury their old friend, M&H get to talking about

death and Maurice riffs about being buried in the Minnefield family crypt
IN KNOXVILLE (crypt dates back to Civil War).  
	Like alr, I guess that I can live with the roots in TN/raised in 
Tulsa thing.  Actually, the TN/OK connection makes a lot of sense.
					Thanks alr :)
						ckile
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