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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 07:00:56 -0600
Reply-To:     RIGAUT@FRURBB51.BITNET
From:         RIGAUT@FRURBB51.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Surname OLIPHANT

My wife found a reference, following a recent query about the surname OLIPHANT
(sorry, I hadn't kept the original message).

For  <britton_j@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz>  (impossible to reach by personal mail:
keeps bouncing back)  -- thanks.

--------------------------------- MESSAGE ---------------------------------

I once knew (not well) in Sheffield (Yorkshire, UK) someone with this name and
have a feeling it was possibly local. So I checked in the 3 volumes I have of
"Yorkshire Families Directory" compiled by John Perkins. In volume 3 (dated
1988), I found the following entry:
     OLIPHANT (or OLIVANT), Hull, East Riding Yorkshire, 19th Century
contributed by
     K.W. Blackmore, 8 Hall Gardens, Colney Heath, St. Albans, Herts AL4 0QG, UK
So you could try writing to Mr/Ms Blackmore.

Happy hunting,

Angela Downs-Rigaut    University of Paris 7, Paris, France
downs@frurbb51

P.S. I also checked a similar directory for Lincolnshire, but found nothing.
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Jean Paul Rigaut       University of Paris 7, Paris, France
rigaut@frurbb51
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:16:11 -0800
Reply-To:     Frieda Davison <fdavison@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>
From:         Frieda Davison <fdavison@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU>
Subject:      Ancestral home?
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.NoDak.edu

Friend is seeking whereabouts of an English estate known as "Primrose"
which was supposedly the ancestral home of the Earl? (Duke?, Lord?)
of Roseberry?  Any clues would be appreciated.

Frieda Davison
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From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Subject: Re:      DeskJet refills
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:13:48 GMT

>Do you (or others who do their own refills) have any
>suggestions/techniques/cautions for those of us who
>are about to have a go at a refill?

The only true hint with a cheap refilling of the cartridge for the
HP Deskjet (I have a Deskjet 500C, but I presume the full Deskjet
series have the same model of cartridges):

Use the single-capacity (low capacity) and not the high capacity
(double capacity) cartridge.  The double-capacity is likely designed
not to be refilled at home and it is very complicated to open it.

Just use a seringue (I get a large medical seringue from my sister
who is a nurse), a bottle of ink (someone suggested me to use
the Skript (Script?) black ink which I found in the local bookstore
(but I did not see that in a larger bookstore (^;  )).
Using a 30 units seringue (the first I get in a drugstore), I have to
shout the ink about 45 times.  So, check for a larger seringue.
And the single cartridge has one hole on the top.  It is very easy to
refill.

More suggestions:

Don't wait it is near empty.  It will lose quality if it dries.
So, before having a large work to print, fill it.  I printed about
200 pages with a full refill.  

Always print 2 or 3 pages after refill to replace the ink at a more
normal level.  The first pages will be printed with more ink.

Check every page for glitch.  I think if the air is humid (not enough
dry), the ink will take some time to dry and may cause some bad printing.
So, check to be sure.


I used my printer for a book of some 600 pages later used as a master
copy before printing.  So, that refilling works!


-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Ge'ne'alogiste des familles : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Un Que'bec renouvele' dans une Ame'rique renove'e
\_.-===  Ope'rateur de "Racines du Que'bec" (514) 922-9636 BBS/Genealogie
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 11:18:42 -0500
Reply-To:     Dave Chasey <wn9nbt@ECN.PURDUE.EDU>
From:         Dave Chasey <wn9nbt@ECN.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject: Re: Elements of the perfect genealogical software
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Something I would also like to see would be a database for people that
you suspect are related, but no relationship has been established yet.
I have some Chasey's in a cemetary near Wabash, IN where our branch of
Chaseys were in that time period and I have some information on paper
about them.    My gut feeling is that they are related.  I don't want
to enter them in Borther's Keeper until I have proven it, but it would
be nice to store the info.    It would also be handy to keep people you
prove aren't related in to save duplication of effort when you come across
them down the road.

Just my 2 cents worth........Dave
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Subject: TIARA Meeting, Boston, MA. 1-8-93
From: Chris Munnelly <munnelly@XYLOGICS.COM>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:37:47 EST
Reply-To: Chris Munnelly <munnelly@XYLOGICS.COM>
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The Irish Ancestral Research Association (TIARA) is having a meeting
this Friday (1/8/93) at 7:30pm, Room 307, Higgins Hall, at Boston College.

Henry Lee will talk about Boston Aid to Ireland in the Great Famine.
Mr. Lee is past president of the Charitable Society of Boston.  He is
president of the Friends of the Public Garden, a teacher, author,
philanthropist and scion of a prominent Boston family who is very
proud of his Irish heritage.

The meeting is free of charge and all are invited.  Please introduce
yourself as a first time attendee at the sign-in table.  I hope to be
there, but am at the mercy of the babysitters.

Have Fun!

- Chris

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  Christopher P. Munnelly           (munnelly@Xylogics.COM)
  Searching: Broderick, Cadogan, Carter, Casey, Curran, Leonard,
    McDonagh, McGlew, McLane, Monnelly, Munnelly, O'Connell, Ogden
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From: MURRAYS@SNYSYRV1.BITNET (SUZANNE H. MURRAY,
              DIRECTOR SUNY HSC LIB.,SYRACUSE)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Whalen in or newr Frankfort, NY
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:18:00 GMT
Reply-To: "SUZANNE H. MURRAY,
              DIRECTOR SUNY HSC LIB.,SYRACUSE" <MURRAYS@SNYSYRV1.BITNET>
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From  1990-91  NY telephone book (Herkimer, Little Falls, <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
<<<<<<  Newport area.  Includes,
  Includes Frankfort, Ilion, E. Schuyler, Herkimer and Mohawk  - the closest
towns to Frankfort.

Whalen,  David P.  118 W. Clark     (315) 894 - 9116
Whalen, John Patrick  118 West Clark   Ilion   (315)  894 - 8857
Whalen , Ken & Colleen  Hawthorne Gulf Rd  Newport  (315) 845 0 8439
Whalen, Rodney  J  154  W  German  Herkimer  (315) 866 - 5646
Whalen, Victor R  Warren Rd  Mohawk   (315)  866 - 4334

Postal  Zips   Ilion  13357
               Newport  13416
               Herkimer  13350
               Mohawk  13407
  Note:  lst  item  David P. is in Ilion.
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:49:18 EST
Reply-To:     David_L._Carson@MTS.RPI.EDU
From:         David_L._Carson@MTS.RPI.EDU
Subject:      Linguistic Forms
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Don Watrous,

You wrote

<<"great tit" Zool a Eurasian songbird, Parus major, with black and white
     head markings.

 And I always thought they were talking about something else.  :)>>

You are obviously overlooking the GRAND TETONS in your cousin cosmography.

A Little further genealogical effort in OCD should point that the English
cousin of our TIDBIT is TITBIT.

I THINK YOU will find it interesting that both of these words, although
quite ancient, are phonological spellings of the more ancient word TEAT,
which should not be pronounced TEET.

UNFORTUNATELY, even educated agriculturists now use the last cited phonic
form.

A genealogical question:  The titmouse (American)has a small teat-like
protruberance on its head.  Is this also true for the Great Tit?

Cheers!

David L. Carson
userGP45@mts.rpi.edu
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:21:13 -0500
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Subject:      Conference

The Fairfax Genealogical Society is sponsoring a conference at The Rosslyn
Westpark Hotel in Arlington, Va: "Freedom Bound - Immigration of Religious
Groups to the New World."  For non-members it's $20.00.  Contact: Fairfax
Genealogical Society, P.O. Box 2290. Merrifield, VA 22116-2290 for details.
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Subject: Dorsey Octavis and Weltha Elmina Miller
From: "Barbara Lighthizer,MAC,Otolaryngology" <lighthiz@OHSU.EDU>
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:01:41 -0600
Reply-To: "Barbara Lighthizer,MAC,Otolaryngology" <lighthiz@OHSU.EDU>
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I am looking for information regarding my grandfather, Dorsey Octavis
Lighthizer, born about 1850 in Wisconsin and my grandmother Weltha Elmina
Miller also born in Wisconsin in 1854.  My great grandfather, Samuel Miller
born in 1819, Wisconsin married Sara Elizabeth Stuart. I would like to hear
from anyone who could help me with added information.
From: eggertj@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: 1992 IGI Microfiche
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:36:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: moses.EGGERTJ.93Jan12153617
Reply-To: eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu
Organization: MIT Lincoln Lab - Group 41

In article <ROOTS-L%93011209342788@VM1.NODAK.EDU> Suzanne Badenhop <AHCSBB@UKCC.UKY.EDU> writes:
>   Are the readers aware that the 1992 IGI microfiche version is now
>   available at the local Family History Centers.  I was pleasantly
>   surprised to learn this last week.  The CD-ROM version will be
>   available to local centers in about two months according to the
>   local person in charge.

At my local FHC they have the new CD-ROMs already.  Or so I was told.

=Jim  eggertj%atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
Researching:  Assies, Bre(d)thauer, Eggert, Foth, Hackel, Husni, 
              Kalooky, Kindler, Nehring, Nershi, Re(h)winkel,
              Schall, Schreiner, Span(n)uth, Ullmer, Ziemke 
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=Jim  eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert)
From: lloyd@PRL.PHILIPS.CO.UK (Phil Lloyd)
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Subject: English counties etc.
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:19:24 GMT
Reply-To: Phil Lloyd <lloyd@PRL.PHILIPS.CO.UK>
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There has been quite a lot of discussion about English county names,
and am happy to prepare a file for GENEALOG which lists the various
counties.  I will try to include:

- Full county name.
- Recognised abbreviations.
- Chapman County Codes.
- Whether pre- or post- 1974.  (This was when several counties, including
                                e.g. Rutland, "disappeared", and new ones,
                                e.g. Avon, were created.  You have to be
                                careful - I know people who say they still
                                live in Rutland, and governmental messing
                                around with counties is never popular.)

I will (given time!) include Wales and Ireland, and the regions of Scotland.
So the list will not just be for England alone.

I hope to send this information to Cliff Manis within the next few days.

Phil Lloyd (in England!)
lloyd@prl.philips.co.uk
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Subject: National Archives Field Off., Seattle, WA
From: "Barbara Lighthizer,MAC,Otolaryngology" <lighthiz@OHSU.EDU>
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:02:04 -0600
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I am planning on a trip to the Seattle area to visit the National Archives
Field Office and the Seattle Library.  The areas of the U.S. I wish to search
are not in the northwest, so will the Seattle field office have any records
covering states outside of the northwest? Are there national records regarding
the military? Also, is the Seattle Library a good source of information for
the family historians??? I would appreciate any help you may be able to give.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:46:41 -0400
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From:         LOMBARJA@SNYBUFVA.BITNET
Subject:      Algiers,louisiana

Can anyone in Algiers,Louisiana get me a phone number or address for
St. Bartholomews cemetery in Algiers ? I called long distance and operator
claims there is no phone number. I know this cemetery exists. Many of ny
wifes relatives are buried here. BREAUX,LUSIGNANLOUP,PARNELL,LOUP,LUSIGNAN.
tHANKS FOR ANY HELP YOU CAN GIVE. John Lombardo.
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From: daver@dracula.mentorg.com (Dave Reynolds)
Subject: Re: Defiance County Ohio
Summary: 
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 20:59:07 GMT
Reply-To: dave_reynolds@mentorg.com
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation


I have joined one local genealogical society that is physically
distant (Madison Co. AR), but there are at least three different
lines I am interested in there.  The courthouse was burned
three times, so there is a paucity of official records, and
I need all the help I can get there.

Joining ensures that you are visible to other people.
In particular, most societies keep a surname list and if you
are on it, the odds are much better for other people being
able to find you.  Even if there are few articles on your
particular lines, you may be able to benefit from articles
which point you to additional sources of information which
you may not have known about.  Most of the local societies
tend to be fairly low-cost as well.  

As for not being able to attend the meetings -- I can't do that
even with the local society I belong to (Genealogical Forum
of Oregon).  They hold their meetings during the day and I can't
quite see taking vacation time to attend.

In article <ROOTS-L%93010409371516@VM1.NODAK.EDU> THE GAR <GLWARNER@SAMFORD.BITNET> writes:
>I found an interesting newsletter in Cincinnati that was for the
>Defiance County Chapter of the Ohio Genealogical Society.  I got
>information on joining, because there are at least two members that
>are fourth cousins or closer based on some of their articles, all on
>lines that I am stumped on.  But I am wondering what other people
>have found the experience to be like.  How much benefit is there
>to belonging to a local genealogical society for an area where
>two lines converged, but where you will NEVER be able to attend
>meetings?  Would it be worth it to be able to receive a quarterly
>10-15 page newsletter that has so far mentioned these two lines only
>about 6 times in 10 years?  Of course I would have "query" privileges
>as a member, but I already have a list of members adresses from
>one of the issues.
>
>Advice welcome.
>
>!  Gary Warner  +   Samford University Computer Services               !


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dave_reynolds@mentorg.com                           wk: (503) 685-1335

Researching:  Alley, Boatright, Coleman, Gann, Glenn, Harwood, Henry,
  Kienzle, Kneifl, Lemire, Meirose, Parent, Parker, Reynolds, Sisk,
  Schieffer, Whitford
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:17:56 +0800
Reply-To:     graham%omni@HUB.UCSB.EDU
From:         graham%omni@HUB.UCSB.EDU
Subject:      Re: Ft. Wayne Library dial in access
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Can this library be accessed via telnet?

>On January 4, 1993, "Steiner@muppet.Dnet.Ge.Com" provided us with a
>message originally from CompuServe's Genealogy Forum telling us how to
>access the tremendous genealogy holdings at the Allen County Public
>Library in Ft. Wayne, IN (probably the best genealogy library west
>of Main and east of the Rocky Mountains).  The telephone number was
>given as 219-424-1330.  I have tried numerous times, have usually
>been accepted at the Ft. Wayne Library, but the screen responses have
>not been easily interpreted.  I have used the settings that were
>described and varied several of the settings (original was VT-100,
>1200Bps, 8 data bits, 1 stop bit, No Parity, and have a delete or
>backspace key).  BUT STILL NO Ability for interactive communication
>between my home computer and Ft. Wayne's Computer.  Have any of the
>netters either had problems or have had great success with this
>connection?  If anybody has had success, please share with the net
>the correct settings, etc.  We MUST be able to access the holdings
>at Ft. Wayne!!!
>--Jim Freed, Delaware, OH--   jmfreed@cc.owu.edu
From: jshuman@koko.csustan.edu (Jeremy Shuman)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Meyers Surname
Date: 7 Jan 93 08:09:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

John Lombardo, contact me re; Meyers.

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From: wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Don Wiggins)
Subject: Re: "lost" library
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 19:04:29 GMT

Frieda Davison <fdavison@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU> writes:

>Can anyone tell me where the U. S. Army Corps of Engineers Waterways
>Experiment Station is?  We have found access to their library's online
>catalog but have no clue as to what kind of collection we are looking
>through!!!
>thanks
>Frieda

It's located near Vicksburg, Mississippi.

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 |             Don Wiggins     wiggins@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu              |
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 |Researching WIGGINS, STALEY, HALL, BIRKHIMER, MCINTIRE, STEPHENSON,   |
 |REED, COWDEN, ELSON, ALBIN, JENKINS, GREENTREE, PREBLE, TEAGARDEN,    |
 |HUNLEY, (and for my wife): CHANCE, PARK, MUNRO, BRANDON, DIETRICH     |
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:41:48 CST
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From:         JMILLER@PRIME.MHSL.UAB.EDU
Subject:      Nickname
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Does anyone know the origin of the given name "Dicey"?  Is it a nickname or a
given name?

Jean Spradlin-Miller
jmiller@prime.mhsl.uab.edu
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:24:57 -0600
Reply-To:     Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
From:         Cliff Manis <cmanis@CSOFTEC.CSF.COM>
Organization: CompSofTech, POB 33937, San Antonio, Texas 78265-3937
Subject:      Re: Can YOU help???
Comments: To: "Linda M. Easterbrooks" <lmf@gtech.com>,
          Genealogy Information <ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

Readers:

Reference part of this message:
> CLIFF -- Can YOU do anything about the returned mail message problems?
>
> I read these via soc.roots, so I have just done K to kill any message
> with the subject 'Recipients mailbox full...', but I know it is causing
> lots of problems for mail recipients...
>

To all those who have asked.

We are working on the problem.   Will get it stopped as soon as possible.

later..cliff
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Subject:      Returned Messages

From:
The problem is probably that someone hasn't checked their mail for a while.
If the owner of ROOTS-L can't dump them off the list, one option is for you
to send a command to the listserv to SET NOMAIL for the weekend so come
Monday there aren't >100 of those rejected messages choking your own
mailer, therby compounding everyone's problem.  I'm going to, it takes
enough time to sort out the useless non-ROOTS related stuff as it is.
From: Brian.Mavrogeorge@p0.f30.n125.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Brian Mavrogeorge)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: National Genealogical Society and Internet
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:02:28 GMT
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 -=> Quoting Jmfreed@Cc.Owu.Edu to All <=-

 Jm> "more than 25,000 calls a year for the past two years."  The NGS
 Jm> newsletter did NOT mention any possibility of going "on-line" with
 Jm> Internet or any other national network (AND INTERNATIONAL NETWORK) into
 Jm> which all of us Rooters can feed information and obtain information. 


The NGS bulletin board -is- a node on international net - FIDONET. It carries
most ofthe genealogy conferences available on FIDONET. Some of the      
genealogy bbs on FIDONET also carry the Internet soc.roots (as does my
bbs). 

So the connection is there. You can be assured that if you leave a message
in soc.roots it is also being seen by those folks who call the genealogy
bbs in FIDONET.                               




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