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From: olof@tfd.chalmers.se (olof daunius)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Miscellaneous trivia
Date: 18 Aug 92 08:09:25 GMT
Reply-To: olof@tfd.chalmers.se (olof daunius)

In article <Bt5uuw.AzG@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>,
bbbrisco@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Bradley Brisco) writes:

> >E  (seen on Hogan's)
> Never could gather a clue about this one - P, PW, W or even
> Pitching Wedge in full seem to be so intuitive - why E?
> 
 E supposedly stands for 'Equalizer'.
 Why? Beats me..

Olof Daunius: olof@tfd.chalmers.se
Dept. of Thermo and Fluid Dynamics
Chalmers Univ. of Technology, Goteborg, Sweden
tel. +46 31 772 37 90

 Maybe it's like this:
 Your chances of getting up and down in two, when using this wedge,
 is _equal_ to zero.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: gturk@bnr.ca (Glenn Turk P925)
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Reply-To: gturk@brtph617.bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:35:07 GMT

In article <fragante.714166355@unixg.ubc.ca>, fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante) writes:
|> In <1992Aug18.172507.21403@osf.org> ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
|> 
|> >-----------
|> 
|> >Someone had asked about SONY rankings as of August 2nd. I imagine Nick Price
|> >and Jeff Maggart have gone up a bit, while John Daly has gone done, but Faldo
|> >must still be number 1. 
|> 
|> >Here's the top 26 and selected others:
|> 
|> >1.  Nick Faldo ENG       20.37
Wilson

|> >2.  Fred Couples         16.89
Was 845's.  Didn't he switch to Wilson's this year?

|> >3.  J.M. Olazabl SPN     15.09
|> >4.  Bernhard Langer GER  13.31
|> >5.  Ian Woosnam WAL      12.88
|> >6.  Greg Norman AUS      11.40
|> >7.  Seve Ballesteros SPN 11.08
|> >8.  Davis Love III       10.73
|> >9.  Paul Azinger          9.90
probably Zing's :^)

|> >10. Tom Kite              9.72
Hogan ... for years

|> 
|> OK, so now that we have the list of 10 top players in the world, name the clubs
|> (irons) which they play/use. Let's limit the clubs to irons as most probably
|> use a different brand of woods. But if you know exactly what brands of woods
|> and irons these players use, say it !
|> 
|> Have fun!

-- 
Glenn R. Turk
email: gturk@brtph617.bnr.ca
(919)991-8593 ESN 294-8593
Bell Northern Research, RTP, NC
From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Chipping
Date: 14 Aug 92 08:56:57 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

dedek@meaddata.com (Mike Dedek) writes:
- I saw on some show recently a pro giving advice on this matter.  He basically
- described this:
- 
- ft. from edge     club      stance
- of green 	
- 
- 1-8                7i        very open, choke down, clubface very open
- 9-15               8i        less open, less choke, clubface less open
- 16-22              9i        slightly open, slight choke, clubface slightly open
- 23 on up           pw        regular, use less than full swing
- 
- Note the distances are approximate, the idea was that the closer you get to
- the green, you gradually open up your stance and clubface, begin choking down,
- and use a longer club.  Conversely, the further from the green, you get closer
- to a "normal" swing with a "normal" club.
- 
- -Mike
- 

Looks weird. Why should you gradually open the face of the club more
the closer you get to the green. This will give you about the same
effective loft on all clubs (pw loft), not what you normally want.

If you are close to the green, you normally use a club from 5 to 7
iron and if anything put more weight on the foot closest to the
green to get less loft, to have the ball just enough up in the air
to get to the green and then have maximum roll.

-- 
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 Tommy Petersson              tope@enea.se              Enea Data AB, Sweden
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso)
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:10:20 GMT
Keywords: n

>|> >2.  Fred Couples         16.89
>Was 845's.  Didn't he switch to Wilson's this year?

Freddie uses Lynx USA's.
>
>|> >3.  J.M. Olazabl SPN     15.09
>|> >4.  Bernhard Langer GER  13.31
>|> >5.  Ian Woosnam WAL      12.88
>|> >6.  Greg Norman AUS      11.40

I believe that Mr. Norman uses Cobras

>|> >7.  Seve Ballesteros SPN 11.08
>|> >8.  Davis Love III       10.73

Davis uses 845's.

>|> >9.  Paul Azinger          9.90
>probably Zing's :^)
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From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: SONY World Rankings
Date: 20 Aug 92 11:40:43 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:
- In article <1992Aug19.092601.14677@ugle.unit.no>, oil@idt.unit.no (Odd Ivar Lindland) writes:
- |> It is always interesting to look at the sony world ranking, but does some of 
- |> you know the algortihm for computing the points?
- 
-   I sure don't know! I get the rankings weekly via GOLFWEEK Magazine (which
- is a HIGHLY recommended mag for any serious golf fan). But I haven't seen an
- article on how the system works, although it's likely they've explained that
- in GOLFWEEK before.
-  
- |> 
- |> Furthermore, strangely enough Anders Forsbrand is not among the top 25 
- |> (pr. 2. August). He has played very consistent all year and is number 2
- |> on the Volvo order of merit. What is his position and way hasn't the 
- |> ranking system put him in better position?
- |
- 
-   He's at number 53 on the list, with 4.45 SONY points. Forsbrand won the Volvo
-   Open di Fiernze last March, so it's not surprising that he's high on the
-   Volvo order of merit. Note that Peter Mitchell of England won the 
-   European PGA Tour's Mitsubishi Austrian Open in June, but has not cracked
-   the top 100 in the SONY rankings. 
- 
- -Ron
- 
- > 
- |> Odd Ivar Lindland
- |> PhD-student
- |> University of Trondheim
- |> NORWAY

Also, the three team victories he had last year for Sweden in Dunhill Cup,
World Cup a.s.o.  (2-men matchplay with P-E Johansson, 3-men with Mats
Lanner added, and mixed with Helen Alfredsson) doesn't count at all.

I don't know the system either, and I've heard many golf commentators
(and I don't mean your typical Musberger, but GOOD commentators) also
wondering how it's done. It can't be that hard...

I beleive it's over a period of five years, majors count much higher
than other tournaments (the main reason for Anders not being higher up)
and 20th place doesn't give  you many points...

-- 
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 Tommy Petersson              tope@enea.se              Enea Data AB, Sweden
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From: bbbrisco@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (Bradley Brisco)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Miscellaneous trivia
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:54:31 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <fragante.714069109@unixg.ubc.ca> fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante) writes:
>Game-time !
>
>With the onset of wedge systems, what do the following initials on wedges
>mean (i.e. - PW = pitching wedge, SW = sand wedge)

Having frequently wondered this myself, here are my conclusions so far:

>
>LW (seen on many brands)
Lob Wedge

>FW (seen on Square Two's)
Finesse Wedge (they have obviously not seen me use my lofted wedges :)

>AW (seen on Callaway S2H2)
Alternate Wedge 

>E  (seen on Hogan's)
Never could gather a clue about this one - P, PW, W or even
Pitching Wedge in full seem to be so intuitive - why E?

>
>Now this is a serious one - what are the corresponding flex ratings to the
>number system adopted by the Hogan Apex shafts (i.e. - what does "4" stand
>for) ?
Well, I waggled a Hogan Apex 4-wood around in the shop the other day - it
had a "4" shaft which I would guess to be medium stiff - perhaps
the equivalent of an S300 Dynamic Gold, maybe a tad stiffer.

Since I am seriously contemplating the purchase of said Apex woods, I 
am looking forward to clarification on this shaft thing...

Brad
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum)
Subject: GOLFWEEK 
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:31:32 GMT

-------------

I've been asked via email for information on how to subscribe to GOLFWEEK,
which I highly recommended in rec.sport.golf. It really is a fabulous
magazine that no serious golf fan should do without. 

Here's how to subscribe:

   Send to   GOLFWEEK
             P.O. Box 420409
             Palm Coast, FL. 32142-9853

    Cover price is $2.50 per issue. Subscription  rates are 26 issues for
    $1.15 per issue, or 52 issues for 96cents per issue. Choose how many 
    issues you want and they'll bill you - or include a check.

    Even easier is to call their subscription department: 1-800-829-5116.

    Of course, I have no connection with GOLFWEEK other than being a very
    satisfied customer.

-Ron
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: oil@idt.unit.no (Odd Ivar Lindland)
Subject: PGA results, please
Reply-To: oil@idt.unit.no (Odd Ivar Lindland)
Organization: Div. of CS & Telematics, Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 12:54:22 GMT


I beleive some of you has the results from Day 1 of USPGA. Could you please share 
them with someone who hasn't.

OIL
PhD_student
UoT
NORWAY
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: WLC@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Bill Cunningham)
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Organization: Yale University
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 13:15:58 EDT

In article <colinm.714238623@cunews>
colinm@max.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen) writes:
 
>
>In <1992Aug19.122008.19122@enea.se> tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson) writes:
>>
>
>Does anyone know what clubs Mark Calcavecchia switched to after
>giving his 845s away at the 1991 British Open??
>--
I followed Mark for a few holes at the GHO a few weeks back. He was playing
Ping Eye 2's.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: jeffk@dosXX.med.utah.edu (Jeff Knell)
Subject: Re: Miscellaneous trivia
Organization: Department of Genetics, University of Utah
Date: 18 Aug 92 09:36:24

   FW (seen on Square Two's)

   I've got a PinSeeker 60 degree called a:

   ''Flip Wedge''


jeff

feitctaj
From: ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Fast track to PGA
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:16:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Open Software Foundation

In article <1992Aug20.221504.2587@proton.llumc.edu>, dye@edison.llumc.edu (Leonard Dye) writes:
|> It seems each time I pick up the sports page of the local paper I read
|> about Tiger Woods winning another tournament. His last tournament he
|> won by 9 stokes with a 8 under par. Last month he won his second Jr.
|> Championship. If he is for real and continues his success in NCAA, what
|> would be the fast track to the PGA? Would he have to play the Hoagen
|> Tour a year or so, or could he go straight to the PGA? What professionals
|> have had success in NCAA? What route did they take?

  Gads - a lot of pros have had success in the NCAA. The Hogan Tour did not
exist when most of them played in college, in fact - the PGA system for 
qualifying in existence now has not been around more than a few years. 
Most of the best amatuers can get into some PGA tournaments by invitation or
a sponsor's exemption. That's how Tiger Woods played in the LA Open earlier
this year (he failed to make the cut after a strong opening round). Scott
Verplank won a tournament as an amatuer and had an automatic 5-year exemption
for the PGA Tour (I think it was 5 years, but it may only be for 1). And
current NCAA champion and PGA Pro Phil Mickelson is currently on the PGA
Tour with an exemption due to his Tour Victory as an amatuer last year.

 As for Woods, he's got tremendous potential, but he's only 16 or so. Last
I heard his plans was to turn pro after earning his college degree.

-Ron


|> Leonard Dye
|> dye@proton.llumc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante)
Subject: Re: Graphite shafts
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:23:47 GMT

In <1992Aug18.170758.26370@csc.ti.com> jimv@dadd.ti.com (Jim Vahsen,VAHZ,) writes:

>shaft hurling down the fairway, probably ahead of the ball...  Any advice as 
>to how to minimize further wear and/or repair the current damage?  Other than
>going out and buying another bag, like the ones with the fur-lined 
>compartments that let the clubs smack against each other...   Gracias.

My dad has set of all-graphite woods and irons which he stuffs in a golf bag 
with those tubes. From the looks of it, the tubes don't really help. The lip
of the tube is still coarse enough to get rub off some paint from the shaft. 
And watch how you return the club inside the tube - the shaft could be in 
contact with the lip all along.

I think the most cost-effective solution to this is to get those long-necked
wood covers - it's cheap and it works.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 19 Aug 1992 08:59:17 EDT
From: <DLUX@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: More trivia (was : Sony World Rankings)

Paul Azinger plays Hurricane clubs. Usually wears the visor and I think it
is also on his bag.
From: bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Golf in the Olympics
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:34:03 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp., Chandler, Arizona

That's funny...I thought Charles Barkley and Michael
Jordan had already made golf an Olympic sport...

				--Blair
				  "It's what they spent
				   all their time at..."
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: oil@idt.unit.no (Odd Ivar Lindland)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: SONY World Rankings
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:26:01 GMT
Reply-To: oil@idt.unit.no (Odd Ivar Lindland)
Organization: Dept. of CS & Telematics, Norwegian Institute of Technology

It is always interesting to look at the sony world ranking, but does some of 
you know the algortihm for computing the points?

Furthermore, strangely enough Anders Forsbrand is not among the top 25 
(pr. 2. August). He has played very consistent all year and is number 2
on the Volvo order of merit. What is his position and way hasn't the 
ranking system put him in better position?

Odd Ivar Lindland
PhD-student
University of Trondheim
NORWAY
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante)
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:32:35 GMT

In <1992Aug18.172507.21403@osf.org> ron@osf.org (Ron Birnbaum) writes:

>-----------

>Someone had asked about SONY rankings as of August 2nd. I imagine Nick Price
>and Jeff Maggart have gone up a bit, while John Daly has gone done, but Faldo
>must still be number 1. 

>Here's the top 26 and selected others:

>1.  Nick Faldo ENG       20.37
>2.  Fred Couples         16.89
>3.  J.M. Olazabl SPN     15.09
>4.  Bernhard Langer GER  13.31
>5.  Ian Woosnam WAL      12.88
>6.  Greg Norman AUS      11.40
>7.  Seve Ballesteros SPN 11.08
>8.  Davis Love III       10.73
>9.  Paul Azinger          9.90
>10. Tom Kite              9.72

OK, so now that we have the list of 10 top players in the world, name the clubs
(irons) which they play/use. Let's limit the clubs to irons as most probably
use a different brand of woods. But if you know exactly what brands of woods
and irons these players use, say it !

Have fun!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: ethan@earl.scd.ucar.edu (Ethan Alpert)
Subject: Red and Yellow Staked Hazards
Followup-To: rec.sport.golf 
Summary: Question about differences.
Keywords: Red Yellow Hazards
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:03:21 GMT


Would some kind sole please explain to me the difference between red and
yellow staked hazards.

Does one incurr a stroke and distance penalty and the other just a stroke
penalty? What are the rules for hitting out of these hazards? 

If this has been posted recently please respond to me by email.

	Thanks in advance,

	ethan
--
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Scientific Visualization Group,             | I represent myself only.
Scientific Computing Division               |-------------------------------
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From: mcole@pearl.tufts.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Golf Clubs
Date: 16 Aug 92 01:42:54 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <BsxEt5.ALu@acsu.buffalo.edu>, TKSGJVV@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu writes:
> Last week I had the opportunity to use a split shaft driver.  The
> lower portion (about 12 inches) was steel and the remainder was
> graphite.  Is any body aware of this shaft being sold on the
> market????  The head was a wide body ACER series 2001,,,
> Does anybody  know who the manufacture of 2001 is???
> I would like to order one......
>  
> PS -- I'm just about ready to order a set of ADVANTAGE irons in the
>       AITTD series,,Ping-eye 2,, clones,,,, Can any body
>       comment of this decision,,,like are they really Ping Eye -2
>       clones??????
>  
> Thanks in advance.....
> Gerald Von Vreckin
> St. Univ. of NY at Buffalo
> TKSGJVV @ UBVM

I have had a set of ADVANTAGE IV's (ping eye clones) for 5 years now.  I don't 
know if you can compare them to the ping's but they are a good club.  I find 
that mis-hit shots aren't so bad.  My handicap is down to about a 15 now and 
I'm thinking of getting a new set of Tommy Armour 845's.  If you are an 
intermediate weekend golfer I think the Advantages will do you just fine.
On you other question,  I have never heard of or hit a split shaft driver.

Michael P Cole
From: is@festival.ed.ac.uk (I Scott)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Mizuno MP-xx
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:47:20 GMT

fragante@unixg.ubc.ca (Gv Fragante) writes:

>I am posting this for a friend who is interesting in a set of Mizuno blades.
>He wants to know the difference between the MP-9 and MP-11.  Both are current
>models and both are almost identical.

>Anyone tried these ? 

>Thanks.

I imagine the MP and TP prefixes are interchangeable - since
we have both TP-9s and TP-11s here in Britain. The TP-9 is described
in the Mizuno catalogue as a "slim muscle back blade - the most
popular blade on tour" (doesn't say which tour). The TP-11 does have a
more traditional blade shape - it does have a higher toe - but only
because the area at the end of the grooved face is larger on the 11s.
The TP-9s also have a white bottom groove to help with alignment.
I've had my TP-9s for just over a year - regular shaft Dynamic Gold
R300 and standard lie. I've never heard of any Mizuno blades which
have any form of offset (some of the game improvement irons do
though).

In Britain we have the following range of Mizuno blades

TP-Original - as it says!
TP-9  - my favourite - were Ollie's.
TP-10 - lower weight to give greater loft - seniors club
TP-11 - Slightly larger head 'traditional blade' - Sandy Lyle, Gordon
        Brand Jnr, Mike Harwood, Eduardo Romero.
TP-18 - new! Three steped back blade with moving sweet spot to allow
        easier loft with long irons.
TP-19 - the new Faldo blade - my brother has a set. Vey similar
        to the TP-11

Maybe more - I've haven't got that recent a catalogue.

I paid (UK) 375 pounds for nine irons, and I've now also bought the
matching 1-iron. BTW , TP stands for Tour Proven - the name given to
the whole Mizuno range.

If you are considering getting a set I would heartily recommend them.
The feeling off the sweet spot is great.

PS - Ollie's set of TP-9s were a trial set given to young pro's for
suggestions before Mizuno manufactured the final blade - so Ollie's
set are probably one in 20.


Iain Scott
Electrical Engineering
University of Edinburgh
is@ee.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
From: billsaun@bnr.ca (William Saunders)
Subject: Re: SONY World Rankings
Reply-To: billsaun@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Ottawa, Fibre Systems Development
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 16:48:13 GMT

One of the elements of the ranking is the relative strength of the field.
It is very difficult to move up unless you are competing against other players
on the list.
From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: More trivia (was: SONY World Rankings)
Date: 19 Aug 92 12:20:08 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB


 
  |> >1.  Nick Faldo ENG       20.37
        Mizuno, I beleive
 
  |> >2.  Fred Couples         16.89
        Lynx, at least he's in their commercial
  
  |> >3.  J.M. Olazabl SPN     15.09
 	Mizuno

  |> >4.  Bernhard Langer GER  13.31
 	Wilson

  |> >5.  Ian Woosnam WAL      12.88
 	Maruman ("Are you a man, or a Maruman...")

  |> >6.  Greg Norman AUS      11.40
	Well, he owns part of the Cobra company...

  |> >7.  Seve Ballesteros SPN 11.08
 	Slazenger

  |> >8.  Davis Love III       10.73


  |> >9.  Paul Azinger          9.90
        probably Zing's :^) (does anyone know?)
 
  |> >10. Tom Kite              9.72
        |> Hogan ... for years
 
                      
-- 
=============================================================================
 Tommy Petersson              tope@enea.se              Enea Data AB, Sweden
=============================================================================
From: mspede@atlas.nafb.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: PGA West
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:12:32 PST

   Greetings,

   We have finally spoiled ourselves...

   After playing PGA Tour golf on the computer for many months, a group of
   co-workers and I took the plunge and drove out to La Quinta and played 
   the real PGA West Stadium Course.  The computer course is now disappointing.
   The lack of 3-D really hurts.  The 20-ft bunkers are just not the same :-)

   Some of the details :
        Players - 2 of us are 18-20 handicapers, 2 high 20's 
        Cost -  $75 weekday (summer rates)
                $40    "    after 12:00  (summer rates)
        Temperature - Mid to upper 100's
        Crowds - Sparse (we let two singles through, and a 3-some caught us
                 at 16, but didn't want to play through)
        Tees - We played the blues (6750yd, 74.4 rating, 139 slope) ...
               Not that we had any right to, but since (1) there wasn't 
               anyone behind us and (2) we don't play courses like this 
               every day...
               By the way, the weren't any black tees, not that we wanted any.
        Condition - Course was in pretty good shape considering the heat.
                    Greens were relatively slow (higher grass, grass type, ?)
        Scores -   :-)  and leave it at that.

    Mark
From: webbk@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (WEBB)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.golf
Subject: Re: Miscellaneous trivia
Summary: Hogan  E=Equalizer
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:42:44 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Hogan: E = Equalizer

At least that is what is on the bottom of my Hogan Director
pitching wedge.

Ken Webb
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Naperville, IL