From: agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Newsgroups: talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Mormons are not Christians
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:33:12 GMT
Reply-To: agr00@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G Rose)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Oct15.130032.59734@cc.usu.edu> slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.235345.3101@javelin.sim.es.com>,
> gclapp@javelin.sim.es.com (Glenn Clapp) writes:
>> bunner@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Dana A. Bunner) writes:
>>> slhw4@cc.usu.edu (Jason Hunsaker) writes...
>>>
>>>>Barry, Tony, Mark,
>>>> 
>>>>If you ever succeed if persuading me to leave the LDS Church, I
>>>>would become an atheist before affiliating myself with
>>>>"Christians" like you.
>>>> 
>>>>You might win the battle and still lose the war.
>>>
>>>Jason,
>>>
>>>You would be following a well-worn path if you do so.  A few unscientific
>>>studies have indicated that the most common path followed by LDS who
>>>left the faith is to atheism.  I believe Walter Martin lamented this fact
>>>shortly before he died.
>>>
>> 
>> This is indeed tragic.  
>
>Yes, it is.  But the ends always justify the means, don't they.
><he said sarcasticly>
>
>[...]
>> The reason so many
>> leave the LDS faith and end up with no belief system, or atheism, is that
>> they are so indoctrinated into the sense of "One True Church" that when
>> they discover that the "One True Church" is false, they are resigned to
>> the idea that if the "One True Church" is false, then ALL belief systems
>> are false.
>
>More likely, the efforts of those that ripped apart their faith
>have left them with such a bad taste in their mouth from having
>religion rammed down their throuats, that any form of even
>remotely "tradidional" religion is repulsive to them.
>
>Also,  What's to prevent it from happening to them again.
>
>They become EC, and some other group ripps their faith apart, so
>ther go to another "Christian" sect, only to have their faith
>ripped apart again by yet another group.
>
>If I were them, I'd give up on this "Christian" God for
>justifying such tactics, and either give up on all religions, or
>at the very least try to find one that is more benevolent and
>fosters more tolerance to outsiders than these other "Christian"
>denominations.
>
>If that means that I would be eternally damned because of it, I'd
>much rather be in hell for eternity than worship the God that
>endorses and approves of such malevolent, cantankerous,
>uncharitable, and contentious unrighteous dominion.
>
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>Jason Hunsaker  -|-  Logan, Utah  -|-  Internet: slhw4@cc.usu.edu

This is a fictious situation, because once you have Truth, it can stand
the test of examination.  Evidence supports Truth, therefore, when you
have Truth, you don't have to worry about the above situation that Jason
has described, because any attack on true Truth will be in error, and the
Truth will expose that.

It is when you have somethings that is false, that you have to worry about
it falling down.

Are you dreaming up these fictious situations so you don't have to face
the Truth for what it is?  Jason, we aren't trying to persecute you, even
thought that is what you think we are doing.  We are here to help.  I
know it isn't easy to accept when something you have believed in is not
true.  Believe me, I understand what you are going through.  Please allow
me to help, instead of continuing to fight the Truth.

Sincerely,
-tony