From: becker@edwards-vax.af.mil
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Shatner proposes idea for Star Trek VII
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:53:09 -0800
Organization: IFAST - EDWARDS Air Force Base

From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy) WRITES.....

>>>obviously the two of us are going to have a hard time agreeing on anything.
>>>i suggest that we stop this thread where it lies.
>>>
>>>me

 >>Ahhhh....The spice of life!!!!! Disagreements!!!! :-)
 >>
 >>becker@edwards-vax.af.mil

>okay, but remember . . . you _asked_ for it.

>>>>Just because I said Star Trek as we know it is centered around the 
>>>>awesome threesome, doesn't mean that I don't think there are many
>>>>other stories that could be told.  If another story is told that
>>>>has its roots from Star Trek, I say great, but don't call it Star
>>>>Trek.  The title has to change.
>>>>
>>>>becker

>>>i cannot believe that people think like this.  it's called "Star Trek",
>>>not "Star Trek: the adventures of Captain James T. Kirk".  
>>>a rose by any other name etc.

 >>Come on.....thats like putting four other people in the I love Lucy 
 >>series and calling it I love Lucy.....it wouldn't be the same!  

>congratulations, becker, i can't tell whether you're deliberately baiting me
>or you simply have no intelligence whatsoever.  if the latter is true,
>then i seriously doubt i can assist you in any way, but here we go:
>
>      "I LOVE LUCY" AND "THE LUCY SHOW" BOTH HAVE SOMEONE'S NAME
>      IN THE TITLE.  HINT:  IT IS THE SAME NAME.  HINT HINT:  IT
>      IS THE NAME OF THE STAR OF EACH SHOW.
>

Yup, same name in the title, but the titles are still different.....
and they are two completely different shows.  
      
      >EXTRA-DIFFICULT THINKING DEPARTMENT:  "STAR TREK" DOES NOT
      >HAVE ANYBODY'S NAME IN THE TITLE.  HINT: THERE IS NO REASON
      >TO BELIEVE THAT ANYTHING WITH "STAR TREK" IN ITS NAME MUST
      >BE ABOUT JAMES T. KIRK.

>please stare at this for a few hours until you either grasp this concept
>or until you can "disagree" sensibly.  at this time, your "rebuttals"
>are merely adding weight to _my_ points.

Star Trek is about the Enterprise led by the awesome threesome, Kirk being
the Captain.  That is STar Trek.  I Love Lucy had the foursome.  If you
took all the main characters out and put four new people in the show would
be different, it wouldn't be I Love Lucy as we know it.  Same with Star Trek.
Calling Star Trek Star Trek and having completely different people keeps
it from being Star Trek anymore.  You can go on the same wavelengths I guess
but you'd need to call it something else..... like Deep Space 9........

>and i can't leave without some bonus flotsam:

 >>Come on.....thats like putting four other people in the I love Lucy 
 >>series and calling it I love Lucy.....it wouldn't be the same!  

>of course it wouldn't be the same; it would have four other people!
>=== THIS HAS BEEN A PUBLIC SERVICE JOKE.  DO NOT ATTEMPT TO FLAME IT. ===

Yes, and it wouldn't be I LOVE LUCY as we know it. Couldn't call it that
anymore....have to call it something like WE LOVE LUCY.....Don't you get
it?

The only series I that has come close to changing all the main characters
and still be a success is mash.  There was a huge upheavel and the writters
and producers weren't sure if they'd keep it on the air because so many
wanted to leave and pursue their careers.  They did a good job with the
change, but keep in mind they still had a few of the main characters and
the show held together.

This whole thing started because some of us would like to see STAR TREK
movies continue, this would be with the original main characters.  It
would not be Star TRek without them.  Even the writters didn't dare
bring STAR TREK back and call it STAR TREK,  they changed the title
and added TNG.....doesn't that tell you something?

>ok
>dpm
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>                              --- Hurree Babu, "Kim"
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