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From: rlt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (r l taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Puppy pals :>
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:19:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsl.1992Nov5.161944.11791
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Nov3.185644.22587@b30.ingr.com>
scott@borg.wyle.ingr.com writes:
>Hello everyone!

Hi Scott!  Welcome back!  Drop me a line...I need to try and
find an email path to you that will work.

>Of the two dogs, Moses was the one that could handle being 
>alone the least.  He would cry and mourne when I took Eli to
>the front yard for some obedience training.  No his brother is
>gone and he is, for the first time in his life, without canine
>companionship.  To make it all worse, my job required that I 
>travel out of town for a full week starting the day after I had
>to return Eli.  Moses was a case.  My neighbors watched for him
>but he wouldn't move and come to them.  He just lay there moaning
>and wasting away.

>My job still requires travel so, in your opinions, should I search
>for a companion dog for him or should I just leave the situation
>as it is now?  I really liked having two dogs, but I also like the
>interaction that you get with just one.  This is not a matter of
>personal preference.  It's a question of what's best for my baby.

If Moses is okay when you're not travelling, I would recommend
holding off on a second dog for the time being.  I had my first
Dobe for over a year before getting the second, and I've found
that #1 is very closely bonded to me, while #2 is more closely
bonded to #1.

Probably the best solution I've found for travelling, is to find
someone with a dog that gets along with yours, and trade dog-
sitting time.  Now that I have 2, it's not such a big deal, but
when it was just Magnum, he seemed a lot happier staying with a
friend who had a dog he liked.  Whether it was the companionship,
or just that he was so busy playing that he didn't have time to
miss me, I'm not sure...But if at all possible, try to find canine
friends for Moses.  Give them opportunities to play and socialize
when you're home, and he may not mind so much "sleeping over" at
his friend's house.  You'll have the best of both worlds - assuming
you can find a compatible friend for a Rottie!  I doubt most people
with toy breeds would be interested. :-)

Roberta
...and the DoberPuppies...
From: exujlg@exu.ericsson.se (Jon L. Gauthier)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: phone number for AKC?
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:04:44 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

I sent a check to the AKC back in May for pedigree papers for my two
Chinese Pugs.  Well, the check was cashed in July and here it is November 
and still no papers.  I tried writing, but have yet to get a response.

Does the AKC have a published telephone number I can call?

Sorry if this is a FAQ, but this is the first time I've subscribed to this 
group and don't see any references to one.

Regards,

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From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Subject: Re: Defending my breed (was: shelter puppies)
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:10:27 GMT

Kathy Buetow writes:
> Perhaps in the time the shelter's volunteers spend with each
> individual dog, someone should consider doing some basic
> obedience training with the dogs.  It would undoubtedly
> increase the "adoptability factor" of many of the dogs

They should, we do, and it does.  It's one of the most valuable things
you can do as a shelter volunteer.  Not only does it increase
adoptions, it increases the chances that dog and new owner will be
happy with each other.

-- Jon
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby)
Subject: Re: Common mistake
Keywords: Spelling
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:59:07 GMT

In article <1dcaaiINNr51@morrow.stanford.edu> liza@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Liza Miller) writes:
= In article <1992Nov4.033553.28545@news.arc.nasa.gov> shafer@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer OFA) writes:
= >My favorites are the dogs that heal.  Laying on of paws, I suppose.
= >
= 	And, of course, bitches that are spade.  What does a bitch have to
= do with a shovel anyway?

*You* know, Liza Lee.  Haven't you been following the thread about
dogs digging?


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: What books are good?
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:47:00 GMT

In article <64640001@hpcss01.cup.hp.com>
  bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett) writes:
 
>Grettings everyone,
>
>I'd be interested in hearing which dog books you think are really good,
>and I am most interested in books that deal with obedience training and
>dog psychology/behavior.
 
 
For general obediance type stuff, "Family Dog" by Richard Wolters
is pretty good.
 
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From: rhh@alice.att.com (r hardin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: EUTHANASIA: Winston
Summary: ps
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:06:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.24099
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ



I wrote:
>Koehler claims his method always works;  Vicki Hearne says she knows of
>exactly one failure, for a biting dog whose owner actually used Koehler,
>to cure biting.  Please compare with the method you use.

ps. You have to use all of Koehler, not just pick and choose corrections.
The corrections just make the point that has been set up elsewhere.
Start from the beginning, and take the full 12 weeks; do not skip anything.
In particular, if your dog already knows an exercise, teach it again.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: megm@sco.COM (Meg McRoberts)
Subject: URGENT: Golden can't/won't lie down
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 1992 07:09:39 GMT


my cousin called me tonight and asked that i post
a query.  she has a 4-5 year old golden retriever
who since last night is either unwilling or unable
to lie down.  this started last night about 8:00 pm
and he was up all night.  he goes to work with them
(they are groomers) so they know he didn't lie down
all day.  finally this evening, he laid down for a
3-hour nap and they thought maybe he was getting better,
but then he woke up and is at it again.  they did get
him up on the bed and he'll lie down there for a few
minutes but then gets up.  he even slept standing up
for a couple hours today.

other than this, he seems completely normal.  he runs
around when they take him outside, will sit and shake
hands, is eating normally (although he's a sporadic
eater, so it's hard to be sure about that), stool is
normal.  he's alert and responsive, except that after
24+ hours of no sleep he's a bit tired.

this morning they took him to the vet, who did xrays,
took blood, and did a visual.  the vet thinks he generally
looks like something is wrong, but so far none of the
tests have yielded a diagnosis.  the vet is doing research
tonight and will run more tests in the morning.

meanwhile, has anyone ever experienced anything like this?
their vet is good and all, and although they would be willing
to go to a specialist, at this point they don't even know
what kind of a specialist they need.  internist?  neurologist?

any help will be greatly appreciated.  please send email --
it sometimes takes a while for posts to get back and this
is an urgent situation.

thanks,
meg mcroberts
uunet!sco!megm
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From: amt@linus.mitre.org (Anne Tallant)
Subject: Volunteering at Shelters
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: new england
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:22:05 GMT


Can anyone direct me to a "no kill" shelter north and/or west of Boston
(anywhere from the North Shore to as far west as Marlborough)?  I am
interested in volunteering at a shelter one day a week.  Besides wanting
to help the dogs at the shelter, I will be getting a springer spaniel
(pup or rescue) sometime this spring, and would like to get myself back
into the rhythm of caring for a dog (it has been 10 years since I have
had a dog).

Anne
amt@linus.mitre.org
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From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Vomiting and poisons WAS What foods shouldn't dogs eat.
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:41:46 GMT

> Shari Bernhard writes:
> As far as making a dog vomit, ALWAYS check with your vet first, but when
> Raven swallowed a rubber ball, my vet had me give her a tablespoon of
> peroxide.  It irritates the stomach lining and makes the dog throw up.
> Which is what she did.  Up came the ball.  This worked on my dog in
> that situation, but if a chemical substance is ingested, vomiting can
> sometimes cause worse effects.  Same applies to humans.


Actually, it isn't that difficult to tell whether or not a dog (or person)
should be made to vomit, is it? If the substance is corrosive, bringing it
back up will cause more damage as it passes through a second time. If it's
not corrosive, you want the poison out as fast as possible. At least this is
what I've heard. I've also heard that milk, and lots of it, can be a good
thing to drink in the case of suspected poisoning, aparently it has some sort
of neutralizing effect...anybody know?

I hope my sig works properly this time...


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: ghuntres@nyx.cs.du.edu (Gary  huntress)
Subject: Stomach bloat
Keywords: rottweiler stomach bloat
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 16:05:50 GMT


Last night I noticed that my rottie (3 yr female "Rosebud") had
an extremely bloated stomach.  Lying quietly, but not in shock.
Of course we went straight to the vet and had an x-ray (that was
an experience!).  She did not have a twisted and gassy stomach
(We lost a Dane to that once), but her stomach was FULL
of liquid.  Shes on medication and seems much much better today, but
we're still at a loss to determine the cause.  

Has anyone  ever seen anything like this??

Thanks,

Gary Huntress
huntress@npt.nusc.navy.mil
ghuntres@nyx.cs.du.edu

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: scott@borg.wyle.ingr.com (G. Scott Downey)
Subject: Re: What stops/lessens neighbor's barking dog
Reply-To: scott@borg.wyle.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Huntsville, Alabama
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:47:20 GMT

Kathryn Cook's suggestion is valid -- but beware of more
pitfalls! I have a neighbor with two mutt dogs (no disrespect --
that's what they are) and they bark constantly at me or anyone
else who is in my back yard.  I finally discovered the reason.
They resented me being in the back yard playing with my Rott
while their Mom was inside and they had no one to play with!!
I went over and introduced myself, as suggested, and found that
the problem got worse when they discovered that I was actually
a friend who COULD play with them!!  Sheesh!  Does it ever end?!?

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From: distef@carson.u.washington.edu (Sandra Distefano)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: My dog christie
Date: 13 Nov 92 16:01:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov13.160152.24047
Organization: University of Washington

mcsbc2gw@dct.ac.uk writes:


>He also suffers from bad teeth and is forever rubbing his gums against anything
>which will relieve the pain. I hate to see my pet suffering in this
>way but couldn't face putting him to sleep.

>Christies' owner (Graeme Wright)

If your dog likes to chew rawhide bones, give him a new bone every
time he finishes one.   If my moms dog hasn't had a bone in a while and 
he gets one, his gums bleed.  If he gets them regularly, they never 
bleed.  Ask your vet first however since if the root of the problem
is bad teeth and not just bad gums, chewing rawhide might be bad.

Sandra
distef@u.washington.edu
From: rhh@alice.att.com (r hardin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: behavior modification or dog training
Date: 14 Nov 92 02:22:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.24178
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ



If you want him to stop barking when the doorbell rings, just
tell him ``down''

(at least my dog won't bark on a down)

if he doesn't down, or he breaks his down to bark etc., you correct
him for not being down.

which is why elementary obedience training is not just for showing.

Forget behavior modification.  It's the snake oil of the dog community.
From: shaw@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Shaw Moldauer)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:18:52 GMT
Subject: Re: HELP!!! My puppy bites people like crazy!!!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

In <1992Nov10.201706.27330@cs.mun.ca> bradley@riemann.math.mun.ca writes:

> HELP!!!! I can't get my Black Lab pup to stop biting people!!!

	You need to put yourself ahead of your puppy in the pack.

> He jumps up on you abd bites at your arm and your clothes. I just lost
> a brand new pair of jeans due to him ripping at them.

	Don't tolerate this behavior.

> Try to push him away or yell "no" at him doesn't seem to work. He only
> seems to think that means you want to play.

	Whenever the dog does this bitting, immediately roll the dog
onto it's back. Get on the ground and pull the dogs spine against your
lower leg (or any comfortable position which allows total control of
the dog). I hold one hand on the neck, the other hand on the rear hip,
and the body against my leg. Don't talk (especially don't say "it's
OK, it isn't). Wait until the dog totally relaxes, this may take
minutes. Don't release the dog until it is TOTALLY relaxed. Don't
punish the dog or yell at the dog.
	I did this with our puppy to develop dominance, read about it
in some ACDCA literature. I have never had to re-prove my dominance
with this dog. Make obedience training much easier later. When your
puppy is older and can obey, put it on an hour down stay each time
this happens (and MAKE it stay).

			-Shaw

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From: betsy@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Betsy Weatherhead)
Subject: Zoro the borzoi
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 16:29:56 GMT


Well, everyone's beloved borzoi is in need again.  Zoro went from my 
parents foster home to a trial home, but it just isn't working out for
him.  He's alone most of the day and seems to desperately miss kids
and activity.  He hasn't eaten very much since arriving at his new home
two weeks ago.  The only time he ate was when the woman's two sons were
over for dinner.  He just isn't happy.  She says the only time he really
wagged his tail was when kids came by for halloween.  To be honest,
in the last few days he's lost his housebreaking.  This never happened
once in the six weeks he was at my parents.  He seems to be trying to
tell us very clearly he's not happy.  I think he needs a home with 
children.  He's wonderful with them.  He takes their rambunctiousness
with the calmness of an old nanny.  He doesn't add to chaos, he just
likes to be there for company.  He's great with all kids and pets--although
we've yet to see him in a situation where he lived with another dog.  He's
gorgeous, healthy, but a little underweight.  He has very mild watchdog
tendencies, which is a little suprising in a borzoi, but is not aggressive.  

I know I could put my dogsaving efforts to more efficient use than try endlessly
to find the right home for Zoro, but Zoro isn't a statistic to me.  He's
a wonderful, charming dog.  He's gorgeous, and gentle and loyal.  I want to
find the right home for him.  Tomorrow he's going back to the shelter, which
he hates.  I'm afraid he's going to go downhill there--not eating and lying
on the concrete floor.  Anyone who is interested in him, can e-mail me for
more information.  If possible, I'd like to place him within a few hundred
miles of Chicago, so if it doesn't work out he can come back.  I know he's
the perfect dog for some home out there.  Can someone help me find this home?

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  \      /    \       -- >      O           E. C. Weatherhead
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From: steve@yogi.hsc.ucalgary.ca
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Ethical Question
Date: 30 Oct 92 11:33:15 MDT

In article <Bwv337.Izx@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, hoff@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Wildfire) writes:
> My friend wants to get a dog.  A puppy to be exact.  At least he wants
> one from the humane society and not from a pet store, but I believe that's

(a lot of very valid concerns deleted)

> a puppy......)  I don't want this to be just another spur of the moment,
> do it on a whim type of thing.  Whims tend to be outgrown or left behind,
> and it would just break my heart.
> 
> -Lisa
> owned by: Reluctant Warlock (Locker), TJ, and my new kitty Tia.

I want to get the nets feelings on something.....

If this gentleman got a pup from the the pound and say it was a pup that WAS
going to be put down the very next day, do you think "even if it didn't work
out, at least this pup had a chance and its life was extended a little bit
longer" or are you from the school of thought that thinks "its better the pup
be put down than possibly be neglected"?

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From: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re:  Let It Snow
Date: 13 Nov 1992 20:53:17 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


I'm glad someone else has a dog who loves snow as much as
mine.  Digory is a Pembroke Welsh Corgi and he can't get
enough of cool weather especially snow.  Be careful of the
paws however.  They tend to get ice crystals trapped in
them and it can hurt them a lot if they are out in it too
long.

I wonder if dogs would like to ski?

Is it dangerous for them to eat snow?  I don't know how I
would stop Digory from doing it.

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From: dcannon@bach.udel.edu (Debbie Cannon)
Subject: Cairn Terrier Info. Needed
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:53:01 GMT


Does anyone have any information on Cairn Terriers? I've finally
decided it's time to bring another dog into my life and happened
upon a picture of this breed on my doggy calendar. I've been
see-sawing between breeds for months, but for some reason
this picture caught my eye and stirred up my interest, but
I don't know anything about them. Any information you can give me
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Debbie

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University of Delaware		       	
CNS User Services		       
Newark, DE 19716
e-mail: dcannon@bach.udel.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: sinnott@tc4.fi.ameslab.gov (Susan B. Sinnott)
Subject: Re: Stopping greyhound track
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:26:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.201940.25720@newshost.lanl.gov> crs@beta.lanl.gov (Charlie Sorsby) writes:
>OK, That's two posts that consider dog racing to be disgusting or
>words to that effect.  I'm unfamiliar with the sport.  Educate me.

OK, Charlie, here goes.  I have two things against dog racing: 1/ the fact that
*so many* dogs are just killed when they don't win.  I think it is the owners/
breeders responsibility to find good pet homes for the dogs if they don't
win races.  2/ many dogs are trained with live bait.  It goes something
like this (DON'T READ THIS IF YOU ARE SQUEEMISH): a rabbit is suspended 
upside down on an "arm" like the mechanical rabbit at the track.  The arm
moves around a track and the dogs chase it.  If it lives through one "training
session" it is used again until it dies.  Before this, the dogs are half
starved and then let loose in a field with young rabbits to chase and kill.
I object to these practices.  I have nothing against seeing grayhounds run
around a track.

Susan Sinnott
sinnott@tc4.fi.ameslab.gov


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From: abb@unislc.uucp (Anne Beck)
Subject: Crates and Tags for Travelling/Shipping
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:23:49 GMT

The discussion about ID on the dogs and in the cars/crates
reminded me to tell you all about a fantastic product,
The Crate Mate (R).  This is a heavy pouch that attaches
permanently to a VariKennel or similar crate.  It has
a clear window for information about the dog, including
owners name/address/etc./vet info/medication info/etc.
All this is in thirty point type, red, so it CAN'T be
missed.  There's also room for 3-4 days supply of food,
medication, etc., leashes, collars, even a water bottle.

When I've shipped dogs, the airline people have been amazed.
They've posted ads for Crate Mates at the air freight 
terminals here.

They're in bright colors so they can't be missed.

Anyway, if any of you want information about them,
here's the address and phone number:
Custom Dog Supplies
3531 East Winesap
Salt Lake City, UT 84121-4524
Phone: 801-942-2206

For anyone who's going to the Gaines Classic this week, Mary Ann
Nortmann, inventor of this product, will be there, and lots 
and lots of crates will have Crate Mates on them.  (She sold
out at the Regional in Denver this summer.)

Anyway, just a testimonial for a good product that does one
more thing to protect our dogs in case of accident or loss.
And the food, medicine, etc. would be invaluable if the
dog ever got stuck in the airport -- which happens more than
you'd think.
-- 
   Anne Beck			| The difference between difficult
   abb@unislc  sun!unislc!abb   | dogs & vicious human beings is
   Unisys  SLC UT               | that difficult dogs don't rise to 
			        | prominent positions in the community.