From: tai-sa@ailab.ncsu.edu (Scott A Tai)
Subject: T=Constructive Criticism
Reply-To: tai-sa@ailab.ncsu.edu (Scott A Tai)
Organization: NCSU Artificial Intelligence Systems Laboratory
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:23:08 GMT


wchenaul@cyclone.mitre.org (William W. Chenault) writes:

|> I would have rather heard your points and their counter points without 
|> having to wade through the rest of the flaming sewage that has been posted 
|> in this thread's preamble.

Undoubtedly.  

Notice that the majority of flames are coming from one Mike Steiner:

mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner) writes:

|> Your continual illigical [sic], unfactual, irrational, tirades, [...] says
|>    much that is uncomplimentary about you.  You come off as an egotistical,
|>    sanctimonious, hypocritcal [sic], buffoon who makes Danny Qualye [sic] 
|>    look like an exmplar [sic] of rationality and thought in comparison.
|> and you're a liar to boot.
|> We're smart enough to see that you're a lying asshole, that's for sure.
|> so far, all you've done on this forum has been to act like a world-class 
|>    jerk.  
|> Well, Mr. Scott Andrew Tai (or whatever your name really is), you have 
|>    proven yourself to be a fool, a hypocrite, a liar, and a nitwit.  I do 
|>    not call you these things; by your own words and attitude on this 
|>    newsgroup, you have proclaimed yourself to be all of those things.  You 
|>    are expemlary [sic] of what is wrong with the world today.  You serve 
|>    only as a bad example.
|> Come off it, Scotty!  
|> Your messages to date prove that is a lie.  
|> yet another example of Tai's rampant hypocricy.
|> That crap has been discredited before.  
|> Doesn't it bother you one bit that you are making a fool of yourself?
|> Take your own advice and grow up yourself.
|> You have continually accuse [sic] Mensa of racism.  
|> Once again, you have proven yourself to be a liar.  
|> And you are a proven racist bigot, a liar, a hypocrite, a moral and 
|>    ethical coward, and a fool [...] just like a Klansman hides 
|>    behind his white sheet.  You are a gutless wonder who has no redeeming 
|>    social value whatsoever--in other words, you are obscene.  You are a 
|>    walking pestilence on the face of the earth.

Mr. Steiner--

Flattery will get you nowhere.  *smile*

I feel almost no need to justify myself to 90% of the people who continually
flame me.  They do so completely based on the story of the Steiner gang,
without attempting to hear my side of events.  They form a jury who has 
already arrived at a verdict without caring for what the accused has to say.

When I first saw this newsgroup appear, I thought, "Great!  Someplace where 
MENSANS and non-MENSANS who are interested in the organization alike can join 
together in a discussion about whatever..." but my interest in this newsgroup 
has been completely put off by your close-mindedness and need to force others 
to listen to your arguments.

You are unrelenting in your arguments and don't even change or allow for 
contradictory evidence in your replies.  This discussion with you is hopeless 
and was from the start.  NOBODY can change your mind.  This doesn't mean you 
were right and I was wrong, or vice-versa; only that communication, for all 
useful purposes, has seriously broken down.

I am regretful that Mike Steiner has chosen to immaturely seek vengeance, 
causing this inconvenience to all of rec.org.mensa's readers, and I sincerely 
hope that others will not be likewise injured by any of his actions.

Thanks for ruining my enjoyment of this group. I truly appreciate it.


-- Scott Tai
   tai@m-net.ann-arbor.mi.us
   "Do not taunt HAPPY-FUN BALL"

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