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From: aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb)
Subject: Re: Thatcher urges Israeli students to unlock 'secrets of the universe'
Organization: VezArateh Omooreh khArejeh 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:13:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.165309.7835@informix.com> proberts@informix.com (Paul Roberts) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.101345.1010@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>>
>>Readers might suggest some other equally suitable names they could
>>attach to "centers".
>>
>>"The Jack the Ripper Women's Rights Center"
>>
>>"The Ayatollah Khomeini center for freedom of speech"
>>
>>"the Jean-Marie Le Pen center for racial understanding"
>>
>
>"The Ronald Reagan Library" (they almost built it behind Stanford, but
>                             howls of protest caused them to drop the idea)
>
>"The Helen Keller Audio-Visual Center"

This is probably appropriate for rec.humor but who cares...

The George Bush Center for Economics Management

The Dan Quayle Center for Executive Excellence

The Charles & Diana foundation for Marital Research 

The Mulroney Center for Anglo-French Integration

...

:-)

Anymore folks?

Aref

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: DEEPRACISM & THOUGHTS [sci-anonymous-poster]
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 00:46:40 GMT

>>>>>> Anonymous writes:
><mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)> writes:

    [ stuff deleted ]

>>Pardon me for jumping ito this discussion, but weren't some of us
>>Iranians doing the very same things some 15-20 years ago?
>>
>>I don't want to compare the two, but this is a disease that is caused
>>by what I call "excess green" and it's common amongst all walks of
>>life. Of course, "excess green" is not a sufficient condition to lead
>>to what you have outlined above, however it is a necessary condition.
>>There are many other factors too that I have left out.
>
>You are right.I didn't choose good examples. I forgot to mention their
>social and political ideas. I also forgot to talk about the difference
>between the  degrees of wildness and indifference between us and them.

Indeed. What I mentioned was just one of many reasons for such
behavior. There are many others as you point out above.

>To be honest with you, I don't understand what you mean by "excess green".
>Please give me a definition in a simple and IF necessary vivid language.

I am sorry. By "excess green" I was referring to "too much money". I
believe that one has to have enough funds in hand to be able to
perform what you had outlined in your previous post.

Is I indicated previously, I am not suggesting that having too much
money is not good. It can be put in very good uses, it can also be put
in bad uses.

>shahrAm

                                                      /
    --mack                                          (_)_o --

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.british
From: ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero)
Subject: Re: Thatcher urges Israeli students to unlock 'secrets of the universe'
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:18:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.101345.1010@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
>>        JERUSALEM (UPI) -- Israel's leading university named a new science
>>center Monday after former British Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher, who
>>urged the nation's researchers to ``unlock the secrets of the universe.''
>
>Readers might suggest some other equally suitable names they could
>attach to "centers".

Israel's leading University? Huh! 

I must admit that when I was working as a Unix sysadmin at the Technion
in Haifa, I was a little upset to find that some of the machines I had 
been maintaining over the network lived in the "Margaret Thatcher Centre for 
Computional chemistry". I tried changing the hostnames to "Neil" and "Paddy",
but it didn't go down to well..

Simon
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From: minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas)
Subject: Re: Ghotba jan, Hooshi aziz va Faloodeh?
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:00:05 GMT

In article <BxtJK8.E14@ccu.umanitoba.ca> bahman@ee.umanitoba.ca writes:
>
>Selam Hooshi jan,
>
>Holat chetorast pesar, Holo naderes mirvi fAloodeh va makhloot noosh jan
>mikoni va tArifash ra bara-ye ma miAvari. Bashad, Bashad in ast rasm
>lootigari naderes tamam alam. Khoda besar shohed ast del-e shakhs banda
>bara-ye fAloodeh enghadar shodeh. Alon shayad ye hamchin 10-15 sali ast ke
>shakhs bandah va Ghodsi va Gholi va Ghasem va Roghi va Soghi ro-ye fAloodeh ra nadidim.
>
>Vaghti esm fAloodeh ra bordi, khoda besar shohed posht hamin SUN
>Ab az lab-o-louche Ghoti jan sarazir shodeh bood va tamam keyboard ra
>fra gerefte bood.
>
>Albat shakhs banda heech Alaghe-ee be origin-e fAloodeh nadaram,
>naderes faghat tarze dorost kardanesh ra be Ghoti jan begu gher-gher-e
>Ghotba jan.
>
>Munes va Antar mohtaram-e eeshan agha-ye Makhmal khan ham selam miresanand.
>
>
>Official Ghotba of SCI and proud of it!!! 
>

now can someone tell us ignorants what the hell this means in english?

--== not the fingernail man ==--

zafar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ahmad@norooz.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ahmad Alavi)
Subject: Re: Farhangestan (was Re: chAleh meydoon)
Keywords: gerdAli
Reply-To: ahmad@norooz.b17a.ingr.com
Organization: " "
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:54:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.194823.5249@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov18.180712.4478@msdhsv.ingr.com> 
|> ahmad@norooz.b17a.ingr.com writes:
|> 
|> khod-ro			mAshin or machine

This word was suggested by Farhangestan but never accepted by public.
It was mandatory for army to use pure Farsi words that were invented
(composed?) by Farhangestan. These days, people thinks of khod-ros as
army vehicles.

|> 
|> Aref
|> 
|> 

Ahmad
ahmad@norooz.b17a.ingr.com
From: mporter@neumann.une.edu.au (The Real Genious)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Attention Carla!! (It is me Farzin)
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:26:20 GMT

Hi, how are you?? I am so sorry that I couldn't write to you as it is a very
long story which I will tell you when I send email. I had lost your email
address, so could you please write to this account as mine is, well I will
tell you later.
				Farzin

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From: gmeltzne@jarthur.claremont.edu (Goof)
Subject: Re: Deep Racism (was Re: Sale of Spy Satellite to ...
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:45:52 GMT

In article <nabeel.722223989@oracle.sce.carleton.ca> nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Normand Arthur Beeline) writes:
>In <19NOV199214104230@elroy.uh.edu> cosc186y@elroy.uh.edu (92F06787) writes:
>
>" In article <1992Nov19.194756.20721@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes...
>" >In article <saied.722200058@cwis> saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>" >>mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi), an apologist
>" >>for the terrorist Khomeini regime expresses his deep thought:
>" >>[stuff deleted]
>" >>
>" >>>Arabs...... the world would be a safer place without them. Just the deep 
>
>"  You are right about the Arabs!
>
>Isn't this what mice say about cats?
>
>
	So are you saying that everyone else is prey for the predator
	Arabs?

	Geoff
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From: aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Deep Racism (was Re: Sale of Spy Satellite to ...
Date: 20 Nov 92 22:28:23 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.iranian
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver

In article <saied.722230639@cwis> saied@cwis.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>
>You must face it: bigotry and racist personality
>comes with backward idealogists.

So, with this remark, we can assume that you mean that
Islam is backwards?

And the Shah Regime didn't promote hatred and violence
on its Muslim populations?

If one person is racist and makes biased statements against
Arabs, does that mean that he represents the sentiments of
Khomeini or Islam?

I think you need to clarify yourself here.

Anisa
From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: RE: DEEP RACISM & THOUGHTS [sci-anonymous-poster]
Date: 22 Nov 1992 00:57:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
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To: sci-anon-poster 



[   stuff deleted   ]

>I agree with you on this part of your comments. However, I have a problem 
>with this statement:

>>Long live our Persian homeland
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>shahrAm

>There is nothing as "Persian homeland". My motherland is Iran, not any other 
>place.  Could you tell us where are you referring to?  As I understand Mr. 
>Taghavi also did not had any bad feeling about Arabs.  He just pointed out 
>that if the problems that faces Arab countries do not resolve, soon. The
>world might become a dangerous place to live.  I believe that this
>observation is correct as well.  
>
>                       With highest regards,
>                            Babak   Sehari.

 
You have a problem with it because
	
1) you don't know what I mean. To me "Persian homeland = Iranian homeland"
and the word Persian refers to my and my homeland's origin, I am very
proud of it and respect other nationalities to the same degree.( don't put
the last statement next to what I posted about the majority of Arabs to
find a contradiction between the two. I respect them too, but there are so
many things wrong with them.)

2) IRI are aginst anything that has a sign of MY AND MY HOMELAND'S origin
and it's history. There must be something in it that scares IRI so much.

3) next time that you have a problem with a statement, don't jump into
conclusions. Take a few minutes or hours or days to think of all possible
implications of the statement and have in mind that not everyone thinks
the way you do, not everyone implies what you THINK and that different
people have different ways of expressing themselves and their ideas.

>P.S. Stupid friend is worse than intelligent enemy. -:)

Stupid Iranian is worse than Iraqi soldier. -:)

Long live our Persian homeland
shahrAm

P.S. Don't tell me that there is nothing as Persian homeland. It is
thousands of miles away from me, but it is always in my mind and in my heart.
 
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From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Iran shrugs off U.S. pressure to limit its arms purchases
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:42:57 GMT



	ATHENS, Greece (UPI) -- Iran said Saturday it was not taking seriously
attempts by the United States to pressure its allies in the Group of
Seven industrial nations to limit the sale to Tehran of equipment
capable of military applications.
	Tehran radio was referring to a meeting this week of Group-of-Seven
officials to discuss limiting the sale of equipment which had dual
applications, both civilian and military, to Iran and a number of other
countries.
	In a commentary monitored in Athens, the Iranian state radio said the
discussions were simply a follow-up of views expressed at the G-7 summit
in Munich earlier this year.
	The talks were directed against countries not considered allies of
the West, and implied an embargo against countries like Iran, it said.
	``To the extent that a Western arms embargo against Iran is already
in force,'' they amounted to nothing new, the radio said.
	Following its eight-year war with Iraq, Tehran ``considers it
necessary to rebuild its defense forces,'' but the Islamic Republic 
``has no territorial ambitions against its neighbors,'' the commentary
said.
	There was also no comparison, it said, between Iranian military
purchases and those of other countries in the region considered Western
allies, such as Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, both of which had populations
much smaller than Iran's.
	``For example, Saudi Arabia, by buying tens of warplanes from Europe
and the United States, worth billions of dollars, has increased its
defense forces by 40 percent,'' the commentary said.
	``Iran must not take seriously ... U.S. pressure to limit the sale
(to Tehran) of submarines by Russia, which is so urgently in need of
financial assistance from the United States,'' it said.
	This was an apparent reference to the recent Iranian purchase of two
submarines from Russia. The United States has deployed an attack
submarine in the Persian Gulf as a precautionary measure.
	The Islamic Republic radio also expressed skepticism that a military
sales embargo against Iran can be effectively enforced, given the
current state of the economies of the United States and its allies among
the major industrial states.


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From: desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: World Indoor Futball Cup... *UPDATE*
Keywords: I wanna get some sleep... :((((((
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:56:50 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Univ. of Arizona...,TSN, AZ...
Nntp-Posting-User: desert

In article <1992Nov20.134943.1@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu>, desert@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (Desert Man...) writes:

> World Cup Indoor Soccer in Hong Kong started Monday. 16 teams in four groups.
			  ^^^^^^^^^^^^
> 					     *
> Monday Nov. 16  The Netherlands - Iran  2-1 (seems the ref wasn't that good)
> 		  Paraguay - Italy	  5-7
> 
> *  It seems that there is a thing going around with the refs against Iran
>    lately!  First in Japan during the Asian Cup Games and now the World Indoor
>    Games... Both incidences have involved the HOST COUNTRY teams!!
> 						^^^^^^^^^^^^

Opppsss... For a moment thought Netherlands was the HOST of the games! It's
Friday and I'm sure you understand the minor typo!  *grin*

Ali...
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,talk.politics.mideast
From: nabeel@sce.carleton.ca (Bulbul)
Subject: Re: Deep Racism (was Re: Sale of Spy Satellite to ...
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:17:32 GMT

In <4453@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU>, aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu
(Shaqeeqa) shares with us her US$*********0.02 saying:

" I think 'Ala was saying the exact same thing you are about his friend -
" that you both don't care about pan-Arabism and, as a result, have
" no interest in such affairs politically.  The only difference is that
" his friend admits his true feelings, while you only resort to hypocritical
" and insulting postings and would never admit how much you hate Arabic
" tradition and values.

   You are just held to prove your views beyond doubt or take them back. If
you wish, you may carry my trial in email and later post your verdict to
the world. The sweet darling soul I am, I don't flame people for making 
unintentional mistakes as I once claimed. I always keep my words. However,
my word is void where prohibited by law ;-)

" Is that Hussein as in your King Hussein, or as in Saddam Hussein?

   My friends always advise me to assume no intelligence for the readers,
but I am stubborn: you have to decipher it yourself.

" That is just your opinion, Nabeel.  Khomeini established an
" Islamic state with Islamic values.  He was opposed from day

   Are you naive or just harassing me? That's what his media says, 
but what do you know about it?

" one, while the Devil in Iraq (aided and supported by his-then
" advocates and associates, the U.S. and Sheikdoms), Saddam
" Hussein, waged a long and extremely bloody and unmerciful war
" on not only the Islamic Republic, but also, and namely, against
" innocent women and children.  No, there is no comparison Nabeel.

   You mean it is like a comparison between recyclable and 
nonrecyclable trash? Both sides were wrong in that war.
   I do not support Saddam. US is scared stiff from the word Islam 
no matter how it is implemented. Saudi Arabia and its kid sisters
are scared also, but more from Shiite influence, and I share this
latter fear. Imagine what would happen when Iran supports 70% of
Iraqi citizens, good old Abu Udaiy loses his head, so he had to fight
that revolution.
   The only support Iran over SA for the following. Iranian leaders
at least inculcate al-fatiha, whereas Saudi leaders falter in reciting
the first verse thereof. Iranians support some Muslims and nonenemies
of Muslims, whereas Saudis only support nonMuslims and Islam enemies.
   I read that SA paid Azeries $1B to join the Arab League. Also I
would not bet a penny that Fifi has the tiniest belief in God, however,
he may have a tinier one!

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From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: RE: DEEPRACISM & THOUGHTS [sci-anonymous-poster]
Date: 22 Nov 1992 00:59:19 GMT
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<mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)> writes:

>>>>>> Anonymous writes:

>    [stuff deleted]

     [ stuff deleted ]
>Pardon me for jumping ito this discussion, but weren't some of us
>Iranians doing the very same things some 15-20 years ago?

>I don't want to compare the two, but this is a disease that is caused
>by what I call "excess green" and it's common amongst all walks of
>life. Of course, "excess green" is not a sufficient condition to lead
>to what you have outlined above, however it is a necessary condition.
>There are many other factors too that I have left out.

You are right.I didn't choose good examples. I forgot to mention their
social and political ideas. I also forgot to talk about the difference
between the  degrees of wildness and indifference between us and them.

To be honest with you, I don't understand what you mean by "excess green".
Please give me a definition in a simple and IF necessary vivid language.
 
>>Long live our Persian homeland
>>shahrAm

>Ditto.

>    --mack

Thanks for pointing out the mistake!
shahrAm
 
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From: yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala)
Subject: Re: More info on the Iranian Sub
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:40:17 GMT

sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:

>In <By6A1y.Ay8@news.cso.uiuc.edu> yaser@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Ala) writes:

>>mccd@rosie.uh.edu (Reza Golshan(RA) (713)-743-1540) writes:



>>This base existed before the revolution.
>>There are two main bases in KONAARAK (20 km from chaah bahaar).
>>An air force base which is also a civilian airport and a Navy base
>>which was half completed when I visited the place almost 8 years ago.

>>The Navy personnel were trained for submarine long before the revolution.
>>Iran was supposed to recieve a couple of submarines from Germany (I think)
>>but that did not happen due to the revolution.  Therefore, Iran had the
>>base and the personnel to operate the submarine even befre the
>>revolution.  In fact these were the Americans who encouraged Iran in
>>expanding its influence to the sea of OMMAAN and Indian ocean.  IRI
>>is only trying to continue the policy of the past.  r

>As far as I know, Iran had submarine missions since 60 years ago.  Iran
>got it's first submarines at Reza Shah's time. The two german subs were in 
>Iran's control as far as I can remember.  However, these new subs are 

As far a I know this is the first time we have had any submarines.
I never heard about German submarines during Reza Shah.  Could it be
that Iran were supposed to recieve submarines but never did?  I remember
that an old relative told me that Iran purchased an steel plant from
Germany that the allied forces sank the ship before it ever got to Iran.
I heard that Iran had paid for 2 WWII class submarines at the time of the
Shah.  Apparently that deal did not go through because of the revolution.
Iranian sub personnel were mainly trained in Germany and U.S.A.


>specially good because westren countries know little about their short comming
>and strength. Further more, it is the latest design.

>                     With highest regards,
>                          Babak   Sehari.


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Subject: Re:    A joke ?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 07:24 CST
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In article <92318.175219RMODARR@auvm.american.edu>, R. Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> writes...

   Hi,

      I am sure noone even noticed my sudden disappearance. For those who
      give a s**, I am still kicking.

      Some poor soul walks in a grocery store in Iran and sees a large sign
      that reads

         "koda bA Mast"
         "Mohammad bA Mast"
         "Ali bA MAst".

      He turns to the grocer and says

         "Agha be bakh-shed, Mast-e sAdeh nada-read?"



 RezA

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