From: mcgrew@dropout.rutgers.edu (Charles Mcgrew)
Newsgroups: alt.alien.visitors
Subject: Re: Roswell Testimony
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:26:11 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	wayne@concave.cs.wits.ac.za (Wayne Smith) writes:
	Concerning this case: with all the apparent debris lying
	around, and all the people who were supposed to have been at
	or near the site, why isn't it that someone kept some of the
	strange material as a keepsake?

... Bill Brazel seems to have been someone who did - what happened
might be instructive:

BB:	I rode out there [the field where the wreckage was found] on
	the average of once a week, and I was riding through that
	area, I was looking.  That's why I found these little
	pieces.  I never did really go looking for anything.  I did't
	figure it was worth it anyway.  But just curiosity, and I'd
	see something that didn't belong there and I'd get off and
	stick it in my chaps pocket.  I might keep it there for a week
	before I'd reach in there.

DS:	Did your father know you were collecting the pieces?

BB:	Oh, yeah.  I showed it to him.  He said, oh, yeah, that's some
	of that thing I found.

DS:	But he didn't tell you to be quiet about it?

BB:	What the hell good is a little old scrap?  A little piece of
	garbage?  I was in Corona in the bar and the pool hall that
	was kind of a meeting place for that little town.  That's
	where everybody got together when they went to town.
	Everybody was asking me...  they'd all seen the papers... and
	they were all asking me about it.  I said I'd picked up a few
	little old bits and pieces and fragments.  Well, what are
	they?  I said, hell, I don't know.  And lo and behold, here
	comes the military.

KR:	In uniform?

BB:	Yeah.  I still am not really sure, but I'm almost positive
	that the officer in charge, his name was Armstrong.  A real
	nice guy.  Now he had a sergeant with him that was real nice.
	And I think there were two other enlisted men.  THey came out
	to the ranch and they were talking to me and they said, we
	understand your father found this weather balloon and I said
	yeah.  And they said we understand that you found some bits
	and pieces of it.  I've got a cigar box that's got a few in
	there.  And this, I think he was a captain as best I can
	remember, said, well, we would like to take it with us.  I
	said, well.  He smiled and said, your father turned the rest
	of it over to us.  You know he's under oath not to tell
	anyone.  I said who knows better than I do.  Well, he said, we
	came after those bits and pieces.  I kind of smiled and I said
	its kind of like when I was in the Navy.  We want volunteers.
	We want you, you, and you.  I said okay, you can have the
	stuff, I have no use for it.

        He said, how well have you examined it? I said well enough to
	know that I don't know what it is.  He said we would rather
	that you wouldn't talk much about it.

KR = Kevin Randl, DS = Don Schmitt, BB = Bill Brazel.  This is
extracted from "UFO Crash at Roswell", pg 130-131.  These events,
according to the book, occurred in the summer of 1949, two *years*
after the main Roswell events.

... so it would seen that somebody in the military was thinking about
souvenir-hunters as well (and pretty thoroughly, to keep at it for 2
years), and taking actions to 'correct' it.  Its clear from what Mr.
Brazel said that he would have been coerced into giving up what he had
found if he had not handed them over.  (Why send up 4 people to do
such a trivial task?)  Curious, yes?

Charles
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