HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: PRO 2006
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 00:53:16 GMT

szhu@prism.poly.edu (Shu Bin Zhu) writes:
: 
: I also need to know how to test this unit to see if everything works.
: 
Try reading the manual. Go through the examples, step by step.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: TESTTTTTT
Date: 12 Nov 1992 06:01:42 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Reply-To: 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts4.ebay.sun.com

TESTTTTTTTTTTTT

Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,misc.legal
From: eravin@panix.com (Ed Ravin)
Subject: Re: Easily Modified?
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 06:43:39 GMT
Organization: Not Just Another Pretty Face

In article <LINNIG.92Nov11133434@m2000.dseg.ti.com> linnig@m2000.dseg.ti.com (Mike Linnig) writes:
>The new anti-scanner law appears to make it illegal to manufacture/import a
>scanner that receives or can be easily modified to receive cellular freq's.  I
>believe it leaves it to the FCC to determine what "easily modified" means.

This reminds me of my CB radio days -- back in the mid-80's or so the FCC
required that CB radios not be capable of having their PLL's easily
expanded to out-of-band frequencies -- but I see in the Scanner World
catalog that the Cobra 146 GTL and Cobra 2000 GTL are still being sold.
Last I heard (which, to be honest, was a few years ago), these models
could be shifted out of band with a pin on the PLL chip that somehow was
not part of the programmable divider, and thus somehow squeezing through
a loophole in the FCC regulations.  This hazy recollection is pieced together
from one of the CB modification "bibles" I was browsing through at a jamboree
a few years ago.  Anyone got some better information, or thoughts how
"loopholes" like this might apply the 800 mhz scanner market?


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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: clark@angelo.amd.com (Brad D. Clark)
Subject: Re: Best transmissions
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:24:38 GMT

Best I have EVER heard was about 6-7 years ago in Phoenix, AZ:

<<scenario: DISP is in contact with several units in South PHX looking
for suspect in something...>>

DISP: 417, what's your location?
417: Ahhhh, wait one.

(silence)

DISP: 417, say again your location.
417: Ahhhhh (LONG pause) Idunno

(more silence)

SGT: Any unit have a visual on 417?
UNK: He's probably in Ahwatukee by now (laughs)
SGT: Last unit, please ID.....

(long silence)

SGT: Who ever that last unit was had BETTER identify

(more silence)

UNK: I may be stupid, but I'm not THAT f*cking stupid.

(it was at that point I fell off the chair from laughing so hard)

<<note: for those unfamiliar w/PHX geography, south PHX borders
an area that is hilly, and VERY poorly lit. Street signs at that
time were hard to see in the daytime, let alone at night.... and
Ahwatukee was a little unincorporated town between PHX and Mesa.>>

Second most funny:

Heard while on Coast Starlight train between Portland and L.A.
Coming into Oxnard proper, one of the favorite sports of the ne'er-
do-well is to chuck shopping carts in front of the trains. The
engineer and conductor (at rear of train) are in coversation while
the Trackside Populace is merrily heaving grocery carts in front of the 
train.....

ENG: Well, here comes another one. Let me know if it clears back there.
CON: Must have been check day, it looks worse than usual....
ENG: Hooo... just mashed one. Looks like a red plastic job.
CON: Yeah, I can see it now. It looks like it just bounced off...
ENG: How badly mangled is it?
CON: It looks like trash, but from the angle I saw, looks like you get
     5 style points....

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From: WALLY@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: New BC200XLT Mod, anybody tried it yet?
Date: 14 Nov 92 05:06:44 GMT
    <1992Nov13.174455.4579@news.mentorg.com>
Organization: University of Keentookey

In article <1992Nov13.174455.4579@news.mentorg.com>
philip@mentorg.com (Philip Peake) writes:
 
>inside the case with a bit of tape, so that you can replace it if you
                                                     ^^^^^^^
 
Hate to tell you, but surface mount components are _very_ easily
destroyed by normal soldering...  Of course, you can replace it with
a larger (colour coded, non-surface mount, etc..) resister if need
be.. :)
 
>Philip
 
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From: 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Skip Channels
Date: 12 Nov 1992 06:15:08 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: na
Reply-To: 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts4.ebay.sun.com

Does any one know any skip channels?

I live in Union City,CA and I was wondering if it is possible to here any one
in the east coast on certain day? I heard it is possible. does any one have 
any comments on that.   

I need under cover freqs for  Oakland Ca.

Does any have any FBI freqs for the Bay Area, San Francisco/Oakland Bay Area


Has any one ever picked up any baby monitors in there neigborhood

What is the farthest any has ever picked up on there scanner?

I have the 200XLT Bearcat modified for cellular phones

And I was wondering what is another good hand held scanner good for the money
that you can modify?


Does any body know the code for a gang fight?

What is the average a person listens on a scanner a week?

When you first buy it that is when you really listen, then you don't listen
as much only when you here a siren or on weekends when it is most busy 
am I right or what?

In my part of california san francisco,san jose,oakland are the most busiest
channels .  What other parts of the country are the best cities to listen to?
From: sch@getafix (Simon Hamner)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Mod's
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:52:02 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

OK, I tried looking on garfield for mods for my pro-35, but as I think 
someone else said there's no info. there. Is there another site that archives
the mod's or is it just that there are no mods for the 35 (hard to believe)

   Anyway if you can help it would be appreciated.

  Thanks
    Simon.

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From: wcorea@netcom.com (William C. Corea)
Subject: Re: Pro-43
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 00:19:56 GMT

In article <92309.081612ALC@psuvm.psu.edu> ALC@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
>On another note, I'm a little bit concerned about the 800mhz mods for this
>puppy. It involves a lot of dissasembly and some fine soldering. Can anyone
>give me some idea on how their mods went? Any tips? Thanks.
>
The mods are not that difficult: remove 6 screws, unsolder one SMD diode,
replace six screws. Done.

You _do not_ have to unsolder the antenna connector, if you have a small enough
Phillips screwdriver to reach in and remove the screws holding the lower circuit
board. You _should_ have a low-wattage, preferable grounded, soldering iron
(about 20 watts).

Took me about 15 minutes.

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From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Best of Transmissions......
Date: 8 Nov 92 03:29:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Nov8.032942.1597
Organization: Western Washington University

ian@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk (Speed Freak) writes:
>scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY) writes:

>>In article <100530@bu.edu>, xcane@acs.bu.edu (Michael Goldman) writes...
>>>While I was living in the dorms at the University of Miami I would
>>>entertain myself by listening to cordless phones.
>>[interesting phone conversation followed by juvenile stunt deleted]
>>With stuff like this happening, it wouldn't be surprising if congress goes 
>>after the "cordless phone" frequencies in the same manner that they just 
>>hit the cellular frequencies...

>It's all a bit sad isn't it ?  Sitting around listening in to other people's
>phone conversations.  I bet you own a pair of high powered binoculars as well.

You may not like it, but it's his right to with his equipment what
he wants.   If you don't like the idea of people listening to your
phone conversations, don't broadcast them over the radio.

PS, I don't think the ban on cellular scanners will withstand court
challange.  In any case, it's not right.   If the cellular owners
don't want people listening, they have the option of coming up with
better technology, not crippling the technology we have now.


Jim Del Vecchio
From: parnass@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Finding Mobile Units
Summary: VHF taxi freqs
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:47:25 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL

In article <1992Nov11.171013.7348@shearson.com>,
mjohnsto@jenny.shearson.com (Mike Johnston) writes:
 
> The cab company in my area uses 152.390Mhz as their Base broadcast
> channel for the dispatcher. Could someone tell me how I could find
> the remote (taxi's) unit's frequencies, or give me an approximate
> range to look?

Police Call Radio Guide, available at Radio Shack, lists the
VHF taxi freqs in the Consolidated Frequency Table section:

	152.270 - 152.450 base   (15 kHz channels)
	157.530 - 157.710 mobile (15 kHz channels)

152.390 is paired with 157.650 MHz.
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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: johnw@bluemoon.rn.com (John L. Wilkerson Jr.)
Subject: Re: To tattle, or not to tattle
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 04:23:24 EST

n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:

> schuch@phx.mcd.mot.com (John Schuch) writes:
> 
> >Suppose you were listening to cordless on night and heard a neighbor
> >answer a call. In the conversation, the neighbor arranges for someone
> >to come over and pick-up a small quantity of marijuana, say, two joints.
> >Would you call the police?
> 
 
   Nope.... why?   Because Marijuana is such a low:key drug, the police 
wouls laugh me outta town.  Plus, to get an arrest, they would have to 
witness the deal, if not participate.  The local PD wouldn't have time 
enough to set anything up.  They could, however, log the info for possible 
future actions; but I see no short term benefits from blowing the whistle.
 
> 
> 	You would be a rat.  If I knew a person who posted about
> doing such a thing, and I knew the names of the people he informed on, 
> I would want to inform them of his identity and physical address.
> Were I to inform on such a person as yourself, I would in fact be 
> doing the same thing as you would be doing with your first call.   Both 
> are hypotetical situations of course.
> (the main difference is that the second rat-act is retalitory)
> 
 
    Hmmm... SO.... The people are doing something /illegal/.  Reporting to 
the police is not "ratting", it is doing ones civic duty.  ALL citizens 
should look out for criminal activity, and report it.  
 
 
> 
> 2) I don't see the activity as a crime, or any of my business.  I would 
> not hesitate to inform on a thief, rapist etc etc, who confessed 
> via the radio.  However, what people do with, and on, their own property 
> is their business.  
> 

       Well, if it is illegal, it IS a crime.  End of discussion.   
 

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From: jherndo@eis.calstate.edu (John Herndon)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: How to go mobile in New York
Date: 5 Nov 92 06:10:29 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

How about PRESS.  They should probably be able to carry scanners in their
cars.  TO chase down that news story.
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: parnass@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Subject: Re: Uniden Scanner revisions/manufacture dates?
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 14:22:02 GMT
Summary: suffixes added by scanner sellers, not manufacturers

In article <1992Nov06.220053.24256@mixcom.com>,
kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:

> I've seen ads in the magazines for at least 3 different versions
> of the Uniden 200xlt.  These are: Rev A, B and C.  What's the diff?

The suffixes are added by the scanner dealer, NOT Uniden.
The dealer can change the advertised price in each ad and
tell from which ad you ordered your 200xlt.
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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: psionic@wam.umd.edu (Sixth Plane of Hell)
Subject: AOR 900
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:24:03 GMT

Also I'd like to find out about ftp sites that carry scanner related material. Email replies welcome..

psionic@wam.umd.edu
PGP Key available upon request.


Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz)
Subject: What is diff between BC200 and BC205?
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:32:04 GMT

Could someone tell me, briefly, the differences between the BC200XLT
and BC205XLT?  Frequencies, memory capacity, mod ability, etc...
Thanks in advance...

-- 
Louis Koziarz
koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: tim@ais.org (Tim Tyler)
Subject: Re: 900 Mhz Cordless Phones out in Seattle
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:42:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.014057.20771@u.washington.edu> hsieh1@carson.u.washington.edu (Darrell Kirk) writes:
>Best Products Inc, in Seattle Washington is selling the new Panasonic KXT-9000
>cordless phone.   It is a very compact, flip phone style unit that lists
>
    I believe that this unit relies on an ANALOG RF link, meaning that
conversations on it will be cheerfuly monitored by others.

>While checking out the unit, a customer assured me it was the best phone
>on the market and that he was thinking of picking one up.   When I asked
>what he liked most about the unit he remarked about its range of 1/2
>mile!  
>
   Hmmm, the "customer" didn't have one, yet he was convinced it had a 1/2
mile range?
 
   In general, the ranges quoted on the 900MHz cordless phones have been
'exaggerated' by the manufacturers (and/or were determined during
unrealistic, optimum conditions).


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From: Monty@vnet.ibm.com (Bryan Montgomery)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 10:12:36 GMT
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Best of Transmissions......
Reply-To: Monty@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Havant UK
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0
            <uo0XTB1w165w@halcyon.com>

In <uo0XTB1w165w@halcyon.com> puma <puma@halcyon.com> writes:
>n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) writes:
>> ian@pharaoh.cyborg.bt.co.uk (Speed Freak) writes:
>> >scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY) writes:
>> >>In article <100530@bu.edu>, xcane@acs.bu.edu (Michael Goldman) writes...
>> >>>While I was living in the dorms at the University of Miami I would
>> >>>entertain myself by listening to cordless phones.
>> >>[interesting phone conversation followed by juvenile stunt deleted]
>> You may not like it, but it's his right to with his equipment what
>> he wants.   If you don't like the idea of people listening to your
>> phone conversations, don't broadcast them over the radio.
>
>Listening to the neighbors cordless conversations is ONE thing,
>calling them up, annoying them, and banging on their door is
>something else, and illegal.
>
I'm glad to see that someone outside of the UK does'nt think much of this
kind of activity.
Listening is one thing (it takes all sorts), but this sort of action seems
to be rather pointless, putting it very mildy.
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Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,sci.crypt
From: kevin.jessup <kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: Best of Transmissions......
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:45:36 GMT


>I'd like to learn more about digital encryption, but I really don't know where
>to start.  While the people who discuss digital encryption (DES,DVP,etc.) are
>obviously quite knowledgeable (from sci.crypt), I can't follow the
>conversation with only basic understanding of the subject.  What books,
>peroidicals, etc, could I access to get a start?

>Brad Steinman
>University of Toledo Computer Services
>cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu

Try the following...

Denning, D. Cryptography and Data Security
Addison-Wesley, 1982

Patterson, W.  Mathematical Cryptology
Rowman & Littlefield, 1987

Salomaa, A. Public-key Cryptography
Berlin, Germany: Springer-Verlag, 1990

Have fun! ;-)


-- 
Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com

        "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
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From: ron@zooid.guild.org (Secret Mud)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Best of Transmissions......
Date:  9 Nov 92 15:22:01 GMT

From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
>PS, I don't think the ban on cellular scanners will withstand court
>challange.  In any case, it's not right.   If the cellular owners
>don't want people listening, they have the option of coming up with
>better technology, not crippling the technology we have now.
>
>
>Jim Del Vecchio

They are coming up with better technology--and I can't wait to hear the
whining when cellular goes digital.  (Followed by heavy business in
descramblers, and the justification "they should have used a GOOD algorithm if
they'd wanted privacy...")
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From: cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,sci.crypt
Subject: Re: Best of Transmissions......
Date: 12 Nov 92 11:38:56 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

gak@n5abi.hou.tx.us (Gene A. Kennedy) writes:
> ron@zooid.guild.org (Secret Mud) writes:
> 
>> 
>> They are coming up with better technology--and I can't wait to hear the
>> whining when cellular goes digital.  (Followed by heavy business in
>> descramblers, and the justification "they should have used a GOOD algorithm i
>> they'd wanted privacy...")
> 
>  The technology is "on the shelf" today, no imporvement needed. 
> Just ask those who have tried to "break" the DES systems used by 
> government agencies (like the FBI). The problem with this law is 
> that it makes some older TVs, a lot of test equipment, and many 
> scanners now in service technically illegal to use all because the 
> cellular companies don't want to pay for secure technology but 
> still want to "claim" security to their customers that isn't 
> there. If a cellular company went totally encrypted tomorrow, few 
> of the scanner owners would care, there is more than just cellular 
> in those ranges.

[Thread originally started in alt.radio.scanner - cross-posted to sci.crypt]

I'd like to learn more about digital encryption, but I really don't know where
to start.  While the people who discuss digital encryption (DES,DVP,etc.) are
obviously quite knowledgeable (from sci.crypt), I can't follow the
conversation with only basic understanding of the subject.  What books,
peroidicals, etc, could I access to get a start?

Somebody about 2 weeks ago, posted an "unofficial FAQ".  I found quite helpful
and easy to understand.  I'm looking for something similiar to this level.

I have access to an university library and a public library system.

Thanks!

Brad Steinman
University of Toledo Computer Services
cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,misc.legal
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Best of Transmissions......
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:39:35 GMT

fraser@praha.jpl.nasa.gov (Scott Fraser) writes:
: 
: (a) Every person who, maliciously and without the consent of all parties to the communication, intercepts, receives, or assists in intercepting or receiving a 

Hm, the laws may have an out. They failed to define malicious. If it means
the same as the common usage - then there must be an intent to cause harm.

As such, listening for entertainment would not be malicious.

Wonder if anyone would have the patience to take any appeals as far as
the Supreme Court - if necessary.

Bill
From: jmeyers@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jeff Meyers)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: PRO-34 forsale
Date: 11 Nov 1992 23:47:48 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: psycho.ecst.csuchico.edu

I have a PRO-34 (800 MHz/200 channel) scanner in excellent condition.
The cellular frequencies have already been restored.  This is just like
the more recent PRO-37 model, mine just scans a little slower. I will
even include a set of NiCd batteries and the wall adapter/charger.

asking $200 - may accept reasonable offers.
(this includes shipping)

Please respond via email- thanks!

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