HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu
Subject: NYE Directions
Reply-To: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:23:30 GMT

Can anyone post directions (or even the addresses) of the NYE venues.  The drive
is going to be long enough for me (3-4 days) without having to spend lots o'
time finding the clubs/stadiums/whatever it is that they're playing these days
back east.  (Only 3 1/2 months until New Mexico shows :@)!)
-ZZYZX
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: BRIAN SKALINDER <skalinde@kenyon.edu>
Subject: Tape Grovel: 12-5 Chicago
Reply-To: skalinde@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:14:45 GMT

Receiving absolutely no response from my previous grovel, i thought
I'd try again.  Perhaps after this, I'll lose all hope....
BUT NOT YET!!  I would greatly appreciate a response anyone having
the 12-5-92 Chicago show on tape.  I would love to have this tape
for the wonderfully _scenic_ drive home to Chicago through the
flatlands of the great Midwest.  Also looking for Cleveland
5-7-92 tape when Fish played Bike.  Quick personals:
G, Louise, can you help me out?
				--Skal
				skalinde@kenyon.edu
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: dem@kastle (Doron Meyer)
Subject: Re: Touring: How to deal with Popularity surge
Organization: Princeton University Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:23:05 GMT

What I would like to see is both multiple nights at the same venue
AND mail order tickets.  That way, people in the area of the show
have a very good chance of going to at least one show..  So, for instance
they might play three nights in Chicago, available by mail order, and
give people a decent chance of getting at least one night at Chicago
instead of a first come first horde (multiple tickets for each night.)

Doron
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Death of a Big Ball-12-11-92 Ann Arbor
Reply-To: brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:30:41 GMT

  We must mourn for the loss of a Big Ball. During the Big Ball
jam Friday night, some folks in the first ten rows(all apparently
from the same fraternity house) got ahold of a fast-deflating
Big Ball and brought it to a dreary end. You can now find the ball
hanging in some local frat house.  I saw the other two Balls back
stage after the show and they took a real beating. The jam lasted
forever, and the crowd finally managed to get one of the balls
into the balcony, which sent the Theatre into howls of excitement.
The band got tired of playing, and Trey, Mike, and the stage guy
(I always forget his name) formed a circle, then the crowd finally
moved them over and shot baskets with them. It was fun, but a 
little on the long side. I wonder if this means the end of the
Big Ball jam?-Brian
 
brian.feller@um.cc.umich.edu
 
ps- I just remembered something. The Ann Arbor show was the
   last show for Mark and Dana from Greenpeace, and it was also
   Dana's birthday, so instead of singing David Bowie, they 
   sang "Dana Berie(sp?)" 
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Rich Fromm 18-Dec-1992 1832 <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
Subject: NYE tix still available?
Reply-To: fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 23:33:01 GMT

i just spoke with someone who claims to have just purchased 4 tix from 
ticketmaster; believe it if you need it...

- rich

p.s. here are the 'bastards numbers that i know of:

VT: 802.862.5300        NH: 603.626.5000
MA: 617.931.2000        RI: 401.331.2211
NY: 212.307.7171        ME: 207.775.3331
Buffalo: 716.852.5000
western MA: 413.733.2500

call information to get any more

p.p.s. i can somewhat understand how this could happen; since it's a total GA 
show, they may not have initially been sure of how many tickets they could sell; 
perhaps they found out that Phish's stage won't take up as much room as they had 
thought, or perhaps they just decided to make more money and cram in more people 
than they legally can; anyway, for all of you grovelers out there, it certainly 
can't hurt to make a phone call; i have no direct knowledge of whether or not 
this rumor is true, so go find out for yourself

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Babel Phish <RUVOLA39%snypotva.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: Temporarily remove ...MOI
Reply-To: RUVOLA39%snypotva.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:42:25 GMT

take me away!!! Christmas break and limited disk space...so
delete me ...I'll be back in mid january.
by th way: someone who posted the set list for Montreal said they
played DAVID BOWIE > Sweet adeline at the end of the 1st set...But
I don't remember this...they opened thier encore with Sweet adeline and
then rocky top....also the "some bluegrass song" was UNCLE PEN...

->bout as faithful as a slot machine->Mykel
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "David H. Lyons" <dhlyons@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: 7-25-92 tree(need a copy)
Reply-To: dhlyons@mailbox.syr.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:56:14 GMT

HHHHHHHHHEEEEEEEEEEEEEELLLLLLLLLLLLPPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi, can someone please, please help me and my branches by sending me a copy
of the 7-25-92 Phish-Santana tree?  I, being inherently stupid, deleted my
copy, and believe me, I feel like a very big fool.  In fact, I publicy 
proclaim my foolishness, my foolitude, my foolerisms in front of the 
entire .net!!!!! But seriously, please help me out.
                     I thank you considerably in advance for your help.
                    Whoever you may be...
                  

                         Davey
                       
                      dhlyons@mailbox.syr.edu

                     "Here comes the joker, with his silly grin..."
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Michael C. Formica III" <IQM334@uriacc.uri.edu>
Subject: NYE Gathering of Pherindly Phury Phish poeple?
Reply-To: IQM334@uriacc.uri.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 21:47:39 GMT

OK, so I know I asked this before, but I wont have access to a computer after
Monday, so.......DOES ANYONE WANT TO LET ME AND THE REST OF THE NET KNOW
WHERE THE NEW YEARS EVE GATHERING WILL BE HELD!!!!(pretend someone screamed
that) I posted a suggestion, and was wondering if people want to meet there.
I can't make it to any other shows but NYE(got to go skiiiiiiiiii), and wanted
to meet you all. How about if we decide on a place, and then Shelly or
someone in the know can convince the band to join us? sounds like a good
idea to me. anyway, If someone could e-mail me or call me at 201-334-3831,
and let me know where it will be, I would be forever grateful.
    Also, someone from Lincoln PARK, NJ posted a ccouple of days ago(?) that
they needed a ride to NYE. Well I live in Boonton, and if they call me, I might
 be able to give them a ride. (PLEASE DONT FLAME ME FOR POSTING THIS TO THE
WHOLE NET, I AM ONLY TRYING TO DO SOMEONE A FAVOR!)
                                              Mike Formica

ps- If I don't see you at the gathering, look for me in a ruffly flaming
pink, fuscia, Jimmy Hendrix, cheapo wedding, style tuxedo shirt. If you
see it, you'll know it is it. ADios
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: mkofahl@MtHolyoke.edu (Cat-in-the-Hat)
Subject: Springfield Needed
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:05:50 GMT


Anyone with an extra Springfield ticket? Only one needed...

Don't have any interesting stuff to trade except greenbacks. Sorry!
But I do live semi-close to the venue (15-20 mins) and if you needed 
a place to crash that night, it would be no problem...(if I under
stand correctly, I already have 3 other folks doing the same thing! :)
Joy! Joy!

Thanks!

mkofahl@mhc.mtholyoke.edu
-Meko  (413) 538-3859


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: JOSEEBACH@davidson.bitnet
Subject: Wilson???
Reply-To: JOSEEBACH@davidson.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:49:12 GMT

Ronald WILSON Reagan?  I didn't know that.  Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.
sounds a little interesting to me.

Blap, Boom, Ba-diddy Boom, Diddy Boom,
John
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: DJAVA@suvm.acs.syr.edu
Subject: flag shirt
Reply-To: DJAVA@suvm.acs.syr.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:45:02 GMT

Just a brief greeting from on top of the right hand
(facing the stage) speaker in Toronto.
My best seat yet.
Tried to dance, but
the gaurd would only fret.



                          Truly incredible show, later.
                          Happy Whatever!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


                                        Derek
                                        ESF
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Jeff Maggard 16-Dec-1992 1905 <maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com>
Subject: A Note of Thanks!
Reply-To: maggard@subpac.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:01:27 GMT

Many thanks and piles and piles of Kudos to Mitch Hendrickson!!!
(He knows why ;-)

- jeff
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Scott R. Hayes" <s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu>
Subject: Junta - drowning
Reply-To: s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 07:13:21 GMT

Why are there so many references to drowning on Junta?
"falling into a deep well"
Esther drowns
Floyd does too, sort of

So is this a theme?
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Cassidy Curtis <herc.xaos.com!cjc@mofo.net.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Grovels, Tape Pleas, and Personals
Reply-To: herc.xaos.com!cjc@mofo.net.netcom.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:35:35 GMT


Perhaps this is premature, but might it be time to spin off a separate

	rec.music.phish_grovels

group?

Just presenting an option. (BTW, it's great to hear such a nice, civil
discussion shaping up here. I hope to hear more ideas about this,
because at this rate it looks like we might actually find a solution
to this issue!) I also like Shelly's recommendation that people who
have extras post to offer them to the net, instead of people who need
them posting to grovel. 

	Cassidy

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Cassidy Curtis		What does this mean? WHAT DOES THIS ME-E-EAN?
cjc@xaos.com		What is the meaning of this? -Captain Beefheart
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Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: GRYMBLE GRUMBLE <williama@kenyon.edu>
Subject: SCANNING PHOTOS 
Reply-To: williama@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:33:26 GMT

Hey Shelly,

          Concering my OFFICIAL DRE PICTURE GROVEL...I've gotten quite
a few computer people who have emailed me with the idea to scan the
photos so the entire net can view them. Is this technology possible?
Is it possible to scan a photo and then send it to the net as a post?
I mean I don't think my VAX has the graphics to do such a thing. Do
you know anything about this. I want to gain a bit more knowledge
before I send pictures away to be scanned because didn't someone say
we might need permission from the band.
                                              Confused,
                                                        dre - -
                                                            * *
                                                             ^
                                                             O - D'oh!
From: lfine@mhc.mtholyoke.edu (Lawrence Fine)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Bela Fleck (no phish)
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:42:19 GMT
Reply-To: lfine@mhc.mtholyoke.edu
Organization: The Internet


	I had the great pleasure of expreiencing the Flecktones last night
at Amherst College.  I don't have enough good things to say about these
guys.  They are musicions witha capitol M! I found myself smiling the entire
concert through.  Just see them and you will know what I mean, right jg? 

they are ALMOST as good as yeP!

   jakeob (still in shock)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: AFOSTER@cmcvx1.claremont.edu
Subject: Posting answers vs. direct mail
Reply-To: AFOSTER@cmcvx1.claremont.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:25:34 GMT

Darren Cokin writes:

| Please post response, so I only get one.

Ha!  I knew that there'd be a million responses to this question about the
squirt guns.  I bet we all know exactly how many milliliters of water was
in the Super Soaker by now.

I still feel that if a person asks a question, he should be prepared to endure
the slight inconvenience of receiving a few e-mail messages, but should not
inconvenience everyone else by encouraging their digests to be filled with
things only of interest to him.  I am not flaming Darren...in fact, I made
him the tapes, I believe.

I posted to ask if anyone had any Pink Floyd boots a month or so ago.  I got
about 40 replies in my mailbox, and just dealt with it, since people were
doing me a favor simply by replying.

					-Andrew

P.S. On a slightly less anal note, I'm out of here for Christmas (not Winter
or Holiday) break.  I hope everyone has a good time at all of their Phish
shows (lucky east-coasters), and please, be careful driving on New Years
Eve.
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:51:18 -0500 
From: David Reeve Sward <sward+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Merchandising

What's the #/address for Phish merchandising?
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: CANTWELL%SSRL750.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu
Subject: New Haven or Springfield room\ride sharing
Reply-To: CANTWELL%SSRL750.BITNET@cornellc.cit.cornell.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:14:00 GMT

I was just wondering if any one wanted to share a motel room with me in
New Haven or Springfield to cut costs. It would be like a motel 6 or
something, nothing fancy. Also if anyone could give me a ride to some of
the shows, I could trade for space in the motel room. I have a ride to New
Haven-but after that it gets a little sketchy( I can't figure out how to
spell that). Also, I would just kind of feel better if I was sharing with
some women- Really no offence guys, that would just make me more
comfortable. Hope someone can help me out, Thank You.
                                Christine Cantwell
From: 889sullivan@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Phish hats
Date: 13 Dec 92 16:55:21 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1gg66qINNfiu@cs.ubc.ca>, mechler@cs.ubc.ca (Roland Mechler) writes:
> Excuse my ignorance, but someone mentioned someone wearing a Phish hat
> in a magazine picture, and I was wondering whether this meant like
> a basecall cap with a Phish design, or some kind of special hat
> associated with the band (a big fish shaped hat would be pretty
> cool, huh ;-). If it's the former, are they available, like say 
> through Matt (Lawrence) or something? It rains a lot here and I
> could use some head gear (maybe a big fish would be appropriate).
> 
> -Roland

	At the Phish show in Kalamazoo they where selling Phish 
baseball hats with Phish spelled out in the shape of a fish (how Phishy).
I cant recall how much they were, and I dont know where to get one besides
at a show.  Dont know if this has been of any help.


						SULLY

           
 
           
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: jsarna@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Lyrics ?
Organization: Clark University
Date: 16 DEC 92 21:58:44 GMT

In a previous article, jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Jeff Althoff) wrote:
>In article <15DEC92.21504059@vax.clarku.edu> jsarna@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>>
>>
>>I assume you're referring to the line from "My Sweet One"
>>"and if your dog or cat ever dies, I'll buy you a ewe"
>>A ewe (if I'm not mistaken) is a baby sheep.  It looks very much like a
>>regular sheep, only smaller :-)
>>
> 
>  ewe = female sheep
>  lamb = baby sheep 
> 
>-- 
>--------------------------------------------
>Jeff Althoff    jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu

Oops...sorry for misleading the "MSO" inquirers...
:-)
		-jeremy
From: mechler@cs.ubc.ca (Roland Mechler)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: You know you're gettin old when...
Date: 19 Dec 1992 01:05:35 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: giraf.cs.ubc.ca

In article <1992Dec18.155207.22863@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, Ed Craig <CRAIG@mitvma.mit.edu> writes:
|>     I knew I was getting old, but when I realized that there are people
|> who don't recognize a reference to "Jimi" and that I can honestly say

You know SOME people are getting old when they can't recognize sarcasm
unless there's a smiley attached.

-Roland  (getting older by the minute)



well ...            okay.      :-)


Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: David Stoller <dstoller@ocf.berkeley.edu>
Subject: NYE Tix Available!
Reply-To: dstoller@ocf.berkeley.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:10:56 GMT

Hi! How's it going? 
My personal rule number one of anything remotely involving tickets:
NEVER TRUST TICKETMONSTER!! I called them today and they had tickets for NYE, I never actually caled them at any time & heard it was sold out, so either a lot of net people are terrible silly and never checked TMonster (Highly unlikely)
or TMonster is playing games again and released tickets (Very likely)
Well, anyway, call 617-931-2000 or 413-733-2500 to order them, I hope they stilll have left so anyone who needs can get & have  a happy NYE!
I can't wait for the shows!!!! Ohh.. If we're going to set up a gathering at any of them, can we do it fast, cause I have a feeling a lot of people are going to lose access come this weekend.....
David
From: jenkins@helios.phy.ohiou.edu (Mike Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: Cavern and Jimi
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:06:13 GMT
Organization: Ohio University ASCGL, Athens

In article <1gqg09INN6qa@mirror.digex.com> jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.153750.18286@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> press@v1.wustl.edu writes:
>>I don't believe Phish ever did mock Jimi. Yes, they joked at Portchester about
>>its being his birthday (I was at this show), but I didn't take this as their
>>making fun of him. In fact, they closed the show with a very moving Bold As
>>Love. They used to play this song in 1988, and they've been playing Fire for
>>even longer. Neither of these songs were ever played with anything but passion
>>and love.
>
>But they sure mock the Allman Brothers on whipping post!!!! (Not bad-natured
>at all but QUITE a bit different than the originial, at least the versions
>I have heard, i.e. Telluride '91).  Fishman in rare form :-) Well not that
>rare.. but in full form.  
>
>-- Jamie
>-- 
>James A. Treworgy
>jamie@access.digex.com

	Well, now I'm confused.  Would they be mocking the Doors when they
cover "Touch Me"?  Musically, I think they do a good job with the song, but
vocally at sounds so off key that it my just be on purpose.

	What do you think?
Mike J.
jenkins@helios.phy.ohiou.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: BRIAN SKALINDER <skalinde@kenyon.edu>
Subject: Cosmic Trigger I & II
Reply-To: skalinde@kenyon.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:54:17 GMT

Hey hey hey.  Just some interesting tidbits on some pleasure reading
to do over Xmas break.  Two books have been highly recommended to me
by my brother and, although I haven't checked them out yet, they
should be rather enjoyable.  The books are Cosmic Trigger I and
Cosmic Trigger II, both by Robert Anton Wilson.  In II, permutations
of the names of our fine fellow Americans RONALD WILSON REAGAN and
GEORGE HERBERT WALKER BUSH are revealed.  They are INSANE ANGLO
WARLORD and HUGE BERSERK REBEL WARTHOG, respectively.  While the world
has often been able to survive or get rid of INSANE ANGLO WARLORDS,
HUGE BERSERK REBEL WARTHOG's are a different story altogether.
However, the answer seems all to clear now, simply vote HUGE BERSERK
REBEL WARTHOG's out of office.  :-)
		--Skal  skalinde@kenyon.edu
P.S.  Still looking for 12/5,6 Chicago and 5-7-92 Cleveland.
Desperately want Fish singin "Bike" in Cleveland and Whipping Post
in Chicago.  Have 50+ hours to trade.
     
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Scott Bernstein <bernstei@remus.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Spin Doctors/Phish - the definitive answer!
Reply-To: bernstei@remus.rutgers.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:47:24 GMT


Just talked to a guy who is good friends with Cindy from the 
Spin Doctors office.  She said that just the other day Trey
wrote a letter to Chris Barron explaining that they have been
doing some of Jimmy Olsens' Blues in concert.  He went on to
explain that they have been doing it because it **really is**
one if their favorite songs!

So there!

Scott
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Seth Mankin <mankin@icsun.sunnet.ithaca.edu>
Subject: Ticket Un-Grovel for NYE
Reply-To: mankin@icsun.sunnet.ithaca.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 23:32:08 GMT

Hi All,
        Well, what is a ticket un-grovel you may ask.  Well, a string
(more like rope) of unfortunate events/minor trajedys has left me in
the possesion of two extra NYE tickets, which I will not be able to use.
I need to get rid of these tickets (for the Ticketbastard price of $25
each) and in the process, repay a favor or two.  I will sell these to
any person, who in the past was generous enough to make me some tapes,
or two people, if only one ticket is desired of each.  The first (and
possibly second) people to e-mail me personally and promise $25 in the
mail for each ticket requested.  If none of these people need these
tickets (which I highly doubt) I will make another post opening it up to
everyone.

                                        Peace,
                                           Seth

PS Stories about family dismemberment et. al. won't help you any, just
hurry up!
--
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
| Seth "Galahad" Mankin          |  "We will feed our grain to cattle   |
| Mankin@ithaca.bitnet           |   so the rich man will be fed,       |
| mankin@icsun.sunnet.ithaca.edu |   We will feed our grain to people,  |
| 71233.1605@compuserve.com      |   so that millions will have bread"  |
| Ithaca College - Math/CS Dept. |                      -Joan Baez      |
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Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Scott R. Hayes" <s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu>
Subject: (not Phish's) addresses?
Reply-To: s_hayes@oz.plymouth.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:59:55 GMT

I lost the address of the person I talked to about From Good Homes.
Have you found a list of dates for them?  Can you please email me?
Thanks.

I'm also looking for some other band's addresses mentioned on the net.

Omar Saeed              I'm looking to be on their mailing
Shockra                 lists so if anyone can help please 
yeP                     E-mail me.  Thanks!
Bela Fleck
                                       Scott
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Rich Fromm 17-Dec-1992 1852 <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
Subject: phish-archives: anything else there?
Reply-To: fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:52:36 GMT

the bottom of the digest says:

|Questions about the list and requests for the current version of the
|Frequently Asked Questions file, Phish Stories, the Helping Phriendly Book,
|or the lyrics file must be sent to one of these addresses:

is there anything else available there too?  is the chords file still 
around?

- rich

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Rich Fromm 16-Dec-1992 1742 <fromm@rock.enet.dec.com>
Subject: Re:  Language discussion
Reply-To: fromm@rock.enet.dec.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:42:01 GMT

David "ZZYZX" Steinberg writes:

|you're either on the bus or off the bus.  Talk about elitism...

i don't think this is elitist; there's nothing wrong with being off the bus, 
but you're either on the bus, or off the bus

- rich

fwiw, i'm on the bus

p.s. like ZZYZX said, read "The Electric Kool-Aid Acid Test" if you're 
confused (or do some research on your own ;^)