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From: robinr@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (ROBIN RYAN NEIL)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: BOXSCORE cha19nyk18.10dec92
Date: 15 Dec 92 09:25:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: flop.1gk8acINNrq4
Organization: CS Dept, Oregon State University
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cha 110, nyk 103   10dec92

   Flagrant Fouls:   Oakley 8:41 third
   Technical Fouls:  Johnson 10:22 third
                     Bogues 7:13 fourth         
   *Overtime Game*

cha (10- 9)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
johnson,larry     49  10  23   0  1   8  9   6 10   6  1  0  3  1  1  0  0   28
wingate,david     14   1   4   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  2  1  0  0  0  0  0    2
mourning,alonzo   44   7  19   0  0   8  8   9 17   2  4  1  6  6  0  0  0   22
bogues,muggsy     37   5  11   0  0   0  0   1  3   6  1  3  3  0  1  0  0   10
gill,kendall      40   4  15   0  0   2  2   2  5   7  5  3  6  0  0  0  0   10
gattison,kenny    30   5   9   0  0   1  3   3  6   1  3  3  1  1  0  0  0   11
gminski,mike       9   1   2   0  0   0  0   2  4   1  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    2
curry,dell        34   7  17   2  3   7  9   0  5   3  1  2  0  1  0  0  0   23
hammonds,tom       8   1   2   0  0   0  0   0  3   1  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    2
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
cha totals       265  41 102   2  4  26 31  23 53  27 18 13 19  9  2  0  0  110
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .402   .500   .839       team rebs  9
procedure technicals 1

nyk (11- 7)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
oakley,charles    25   2   2   0  0   3  4   5 10   3  3  0  3  0  0  0  1    7
smith,charles     31   3  11   0  0   0  0   4 12   1  3  0  0  3  0  0  0    6
ewing,patrick     48  13  26   0  0   2  5   1  9   2  5  0  4  3  0  0  0   28
blackman,rolando  25   5  11   0  0   1  1   1  4   6  2  1  2  0  0  0  0   11
rivers,glenn      34   5   9   0  0   4  4   0  3   9  2  3  2  0  0  0  0   14
mason,anthony     38   3   9   0  0   2  2   3  7   1  3  2  3  0  0  0  0    8
starks,john       31   8  21   2  5   3  3   1  1   3  6  2  7  1  0  0  0   21
anthony,greg      19   0   1   0  1   0  0   0  2   5  0  0  3  0  0  0  0    0
williams,herb      5   1   1   0  0   0  0   1  2   0  1  0  0  1  0  0  0    2
campbell,tony      9   3   4   0  0   0  0   1  2   1  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    6
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
nyk totals       265  43  95   2  6  15 19  17 52  31 25  8 24  8  0  0  1  103
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .453   .333   .789       team rebs  8

cha   23  20  33  18  16  -  110
nyk   28  23  22  21   9  -  103

attendance 19763, time 2:30, officials: MMathis,BSpooner,JDeRosa
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: Re: Is it my imagination or . . . .
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 08:01:33 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.170038.5371@microsoft.com>, paulg@microsoft.com (Paul Goode) writes:

|> There are rumors coming out of San Antonio that Alvin is all but traded
|> back to the Spurs. Spurs GM Bob Bass claims that this farfetched and
|> ridiculous, which means that there might be something to them. One source
|> says that the only thing holding up a trade is that the SPurs want the
|> Bucks to pick up some of Alvin salary. The source says that Alvin is
|> so desperate to get out of Milwaukee that he's willing to make a lot
|> of salary concessions to do it. I love the guy, but he hardly fills
|> a need: If the Spurs get him, they'll have more off guards than the
|> Boston Red Sox have OF/DH's.


Actually, Alvin Robertson is exactly the kind of player that the
Spurs desperately need.  Their guards, Lloyd Daniels, Vinnie del Negro,
and Dale Ellis combined couldn't defend a dwarf with a limp.
In the NBA, defense has to start at the guard spot, and other teams
are just bringing the ball up the floor too easily on the Spurs.
Robertson, while not as good as he used to be, is still an outstanding
defensive player.  San Antonio would be very smart to get him.

				terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU
From: robert@aero.org (R. S. Statsinger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: 80's Lakers and 90's Suns: the eerie coincidences
Date: 12 Dec 1992 22:09:30 GMT
Organization: Your Guess Is As Good As Mine...
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniblab.aero.org

In article <42470@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff) writes:
|
|I'm amazed by the number of hostile follow-ups this thread has
|generated.  Am I the only one who finds this slightly amusing?

I guess so.  :-)

		R.S.
From: cor@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Cory Shimer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Celtics
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:01:08 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <2B279E2A.12822@news.service.uci.edu> jadler@phoebe.its.uci.edu (Jeff Adler) writes:
>What's this, a month ago you all were ready to seal the fate of the green.  Now
>all you Celtic bashers have retreated as the green have won 7 out of their
>last 9 games.  
>
>IMHO this is a team that still plays with pride and Chris Ford obviously
>has improved the team play.  
>
>While they are not title contenders, they should be close to .500 by
>the end of the season and scare some folks in the playoffs.

Um, they are already just 1 game under .500!

I expect them to win the division again this year,
and put up a good fight in the playoffs.

Go Celts!

>
>
>-Jeff


Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Laker and Pacific Division woofing
Keywords: Lakers, Pacific Division
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 18:07:14 GMT


kompella@cs.ucsd.edu (Vachaspathi Kompella) writes:
 
>Watch them pound the Spurs, Mavericks and Suns this week!

     Tee hee, tee hee.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
From: alan@sierra.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re:  Latrelle Sprewell
Keywords: WOW!
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:07:48 GMT
Reply-To: alan@wrc.unr.edu (Alan McKay)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Desert Research Institute, University of Nevada

In article <1992Dec17.084248.17437@leland.Stanford.EDU> terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong) writes:

[deletions]
>He then transferred to Arkansas where he played 2 years.  
                        ????????

[more deletions]
> His first year at Arkansas was the first time
                    ????????

[even more deletions]
>After he saw him for the first time at Arkansas, he was tremendously 
                                        ????????

Are you ~sure~ Sprewell played at Arkansas? I was certain he was from
Alabama.


....al
w.a. mckay
desert research institute
reno, nevada
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: grubin@rap.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Subject: Re: Former NBA'er Rob Williams busted for drugs
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Keywords: Rob Williams  drug bust
Organization: NCAR, Research Applications Program
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:53:23 GMT



jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>grubin@rap.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin) writes:
>>I meant to post this last week but forgot.  Last week in Houston,
>>former Denver Nuggets player Rob "Fat Little Hog" Williams was
>>busted for possession of crack cocaine with intent to distribute.

>	This is obviously no surprise, considering Williams' reputation
>	in the past.  Interesting to note, the two years Williams played
>	in the league, he played for the Nuggets, and both years, he was
>	the starting point guard.  However, as U stated, he was in Moe's
>	doghouse from the beginning.  I always wondered why he was cut --
>	he put up some decent numbers (about 12ppg).  I would assume
>	the acquisition of Fat Lever made him expendible.

In Williams' two years with the Nuggs, he scored 7ppg and 10ppg, and
about 5 assists/game.  His defense was rather lame, and though he had
an incredibly ugly shot, he fared rather well in the passing/running
game.  Lever's arrival in 1984 (along with Calvin Natt and Wayne
Cooper) helped speed Williams' departure, along with Williams' penchant
for showing up in training camp looking like an Oompah-Loompah.

>	Also interesting to note -- a future Nugget draft pick, Mo Martin,
>	(out of St. Joseph's) suffered the same fate as Williams.  In
>	fact, many considered him "Rob Williams reincarnated".

Martin is, in my mind, a different case than Williams.  Mo Martin had
talent and a good attitude.  He suffered in Denver because 1) he held
out for a bit as a rookie, and 2) hurt his knee.  He rehabbed well, and
was a terror in the LA Summer Pro League prior to the '88-'89 season,
leading the league in scoring.  He then reinjured his knee and never
played again.  He was in Moe's doghouse, to be sure (what rookie isn't?),
but not because he was an out-of-shape problem child like Williams.

If anybody was "Rob Williams reincarnated", it was Howard "Hi C" Carter,
a complete bust in '83-'84 from Roy Navarre U.  He was fat, lazy, and
always in trouble with the coaching for something.  Another in the 
amazingly bad Nuggets' draft legacy of the mid-80s.

-- 
Rick Grubin     grubin@ncar.ucar.edu
From: aminkoff@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Tony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: The Bulls are Back!!!
Date: 13 Dec 92 09:11:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <101809@netnews.upenn.edu> yhl@eniac.seas.upenn.edu writes:
                                                     ^^^^^
}In article <1992Dec13.033530.4625@cs.wayne.edu> dfl@math.wayne.edu (David Frohardt-Lane) writes:
}>Some say the Bulls are the best team in the history of NHL.
}>
}>I think the Bulls suck!
}>
}>If they had any brains they would try to sign Barry Sanders.
}
}Pardon me but I thought the Bulls played in NBA and Barry Sanders played in NFL for Detroit Lions.  Are there Bulls in NHL and a player named Barry Sanders
}somewhere else other than in football?

Hmm.  It's not just PSU.  It's the whole dang state.  What is it,
something in the water?  Inbreeding?

Tony
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: A trivia question (and answer)
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:14:09 GMT

ashwin@osc (Ashwin Honkan) writes:
>
>	  Take that, Hardaway-haters and ring-counters !

Okay, I took it.  Now what am I supposed to do with it?


--Gidi
From: rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu (Dale Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Jimmy Jackson update
Keywords: Jimmy Jackson
Date: 15 Dec 92 20:35:06 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1992Dec15.164448.1776@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gideon Avrahami) writes:
>terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong) writes:
>>While it is understandable that Carter is taking a stand in this
>>day of ridiculously inflated salaries for unproven rookies, IMHO,
>>his posturing is going to be hugely detrimental to the Dallas franchise.
>
>So, in your opinion, it is "understandable" that Carter is ruining the
>Dallas franchise?
>
>Or is it just "understandable" that he will force Jimmy Johnson -- a kid
>who doesn't have even one thousandth of Carter's wealth -- to lose a year
>of his career and several million dollars?
>

Face it the Mavs are a very sick team, there are going to have to be major
overhauls to get that team going (like a move to another city, mabey), I
think the point above is more towards the high salaries than the bad
management of the Mavs, I agree that the salaries are inflated and I think
that Dallas needs to fire just about everyone in their management.

If I was JJ I wouldn't want to play for such a sick team either, not until
there looked like they were starting to head in the right direction (and
no that would not only be signing Jackson)

-- 
   __        _                     Dale A. Harris  {rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu} 
  /  )      //                           /   "Is gone... he left for Mexico to
 /  / __.  // _      , , , __.  _       /_  _  __  _  get a job, due to the
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: garbage@leland.Stanford.EDU (Derek Lloyd Stevenson)
Subject: Re: Pro Hoops NBA Game - Please repost!!!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 22:31:24 GMT

From stanford.edu!agate!spool.mu.edu!yale.edu!yale!gumby!wupost!micro-heart-of-gold.mit.edu!xn.ll.mit.edu!hsdndev!husc-news.harvard.edu!husc11.harvard.edu!eekim Sun Dec 13 14:31:17 PST 1992
Article: 26382 of rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: eekim@husc11.harvard.edu (Eugene Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Pro Hoops NBA Game - Please repost!!!
Date: 10 Dec 92 01:19:23 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <7596@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> i8ao032@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (Mike Freame) writes:
>I was mailed a game called Pro Hoops which was written by somebody on here and have since had a hard drive crash and lost it... I can't remember who wrote the
>original post, but if you have this game could you repost it...
>
>                        Thanks,
>                                Mike...

I would be interested in seeing a copy of this game as well.  Thanks.

And me!

garbage@leland.stanford.edu

P.S. Does anyone know if the Bulls vs. Blazers game they have for SEGA
is available for the IBM or Mac?  Thanks.

From: dougs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Steele)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:54:38 GMT
Subject: Re: Fun With Shooting %s (was Team Standings and Stats)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro

From kompella@cs.ucsd.edu Wed Dec 16 16:02:09 1992

> 	Doug, can you use standard 3-letter abbreviations for the teams (like
> the ones used to post boxscores)?  Some fans are getting upset that
> there are too many players from the Lakers in the top ten in various
> categories that they have no right to be in, like assists, steals, and
> personal fouls :)  Could you also show us the formula you used to rank the
> teams?

   Good point, I'm trying to get better abbreviations "as-we-speak".  
   As for the "rankings", its just basically a crude knock off of the football 
rankings.  There are four factors that go into the ranking:
  1) Game score differential: capped by a "Blow Out Value" (considered to be
     the top 10% of the biggest victories)
  2) Home Court advantage (this usually figures out to be around 4.1-4.3 points.
  3) A Win Value (I guess we have to give people credit for actually winning the
     game!;  set at 4 pts).
  4) The opponents "ratings points" (adds a "schedule strength" factor).

  For example: in last night's Portland 100, Den 109 game, basically (given that
we could eliminate the effect on everybody elses rating value and no other
games were played last night...)
Before the game the teams ratings were: Portland 7.77, Denver -4.66

  Portland would get:
     +4(win) -4.66(Playing Denver)   +1(Score Diff.) +2.15(Visitor) = 2.49 pts
  Denver would get:
     -4(win) +7.77(Playing Portland) -1(Score Diff.) -2.15(Visitor) = 0.62 pts

   So Portland's average rating points/gm would go down (7.77/2.49) and Denver's
would actually move up a bit (-4.66/0.62).  You would've expected Portland(7.77)
to beat Denver(-4.66) at Denver(-4.3) by 8.13 points (that infamous 0.13 pointer
from the baseline shot!!).

  The process takes 3 iterations through the ranking (forward, backwards, 
forward) through all the games played so far so as to not skew early games.  I
admit its not anything special, but its kind of fun to look at.

Doug

Xref: sparky rec.sport.basketball.pro:21987 pdx.sports:73
From: mbn@greyskul.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro,pdx.sports
Subject: BOXSCORE por17lal16.09dec92
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:02:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: greyskul.MBN.92Dec11110237
Reply-To: mbn@greyskul.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam)
Organization: Shorter Software Solutions
Cc: edrury@3cpu.rain.com

Lakers shoot a mere 64% from the field to beat Portland for the second
time this year.

por 111, lal 124   09dec92

points off turnovers por 25 lal 13
2nd chance points NA
por, lal illegal defense warning
fastbreak points NA
bench points por 31 lal 38
technicals: por Williams 8:36 first; Duckworth 4:13 first
            lal illegal defense :6.7 third

por (12- 5)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
murray,tracy      25   9  15   0  2   2  2   3  5   0  2  1  2  0  0  0  0   20
williams,buck     28   6   8   0  0   0  0   3  6   0  4  0  0  0  1  0  0   12
duckworth,kevin   25   4   9   0  0   0  1   2  4   2  4  0  1  0  1  0  0    8
drexler,clyde     41  11  23   0  3   8 10   3  6  11  4  2  3  0  0  0  0   30
porter,terry      33   3  11   0  3   4  5   2  3   8  1  3  2  0  0  0  0   10
robinson,cliff    34   6  14   1  1   1  2   1  5   1  5  2  0  1  0  0  0   14
bryant,mark       14   2   5   0  0   2  2   1  2   0  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    6
strickland,rod    21   3   9   0  0   0  0   1  1   4  1  2  1  0  0  0  0    6
wolf,joe           2   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
elie,mario        17   1   3   0  1   3  6   0  0   2  1  1  1  0  0  0  0    5
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
por totals       240  45  97   1 10  20 28  16 32  28 23 11 10  1  2  0  0  111
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .464   .100   .714       team rebs 10

lal (10- 6)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
perkins,sam       35   8  13   1  2   4  6   1 11   4  5  0  3  1  0  0  0   21
worthy,james      33   5   9   0  0   4  4   0  3  12  1  2  3  0  0  0  0   14
divac,vlade       25   4   7   0  1   4  4   0  3   4  5  0  3  5  0  0  0   12
peeler,anthony    36   5   8   1  2   2  2   1  4   4  5  0  1  0  0  0  0   13
threatt,sedale    41  11  16   0  1   4  4   0  4   5  1  1  2  0  0  0  0   26
campbell,elden    25   6   8   0  0   2  2   1  3   1  2  1  2  2  0  0  0   14
green,a.c.        32   6   8   0  0   4  6   4  9   2  1  0  3  0  0  0  0   16
edwards,james     13   3   6   0  0   2  2   0  2   1  4  0  0  0  0  0  0    8
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
lal totals       240  48  75   2  6  26 30   7 39  33 24  4 17  8  0  0  0  124
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .640   .333   .867       team rebs 10
procedure technicals 1

por   23  23  30  35  -  111
lal   31  32  30  31  -  124

attendance 15133, time 2:16, officials: JKersey,TDurham,MCallahan
--
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(h) (503) 324-1831 (intel office) (503) 696-4860 (shorter) (503) 357-1010
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"You ducks are really trying my patience...but you're SOOO cute. --Apu 9F01
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: jamesd@techbook.com (James Deibele)
Subject: Re: Who are Wingate (cha) and Young (det)?
Organization: TECHbooks --- Public Access UNIX --- (503) 220-0636
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:12:59 GMT

robinr@prism.CS.ORST.EDU (ROBIN RYAN NEIL) writes:

>I need help figuring out who "Young" is off of Detroit and who "Wingate" is 
>off of Charlotte. If anyone knows I'd appreciate it if you dropped me a line.

"Young" for Detroit is Danny Young, formerly of the Clips, Blazers, and
Sonics.  He was their 2nd round draft choice (39th) out of Wake Forest
and he played 3 games for the Sonics in '84-'85, was waived and then
played for the Wyoming Wildcatters of the CBA.  The coach there is one
of the current Blazer assistants (Jack Schalow) and that player-coach
explanation is probably one more reason why the coaches wanted to keep
Young last year while the front office cut him for Lamont Strothers.

He was re-signed by the Sonics in 1985 and played 3 years for them, 
averaging 6.9, 4.8, and 3.2 points.  He also had 303, 353, and 218
assists in 1901, 1482, and 949 minutes.  In '86-'87 he had one more
assist at 353 than points (352 for the mathematically disinclined).
Seattle sent Miami its 2nd round pick for not selecting Young in the
1988 expansion draft.  He was waived in November, 1988 and was signed 
by the Blazers as a free agent.  He averaged 6.2, 4.7, and 3.8 points
for the Blazers, playing 952 minutes in 48 games in 88-89, 1393 in 82 in
89-90, and 897 in 79 games in 90-91.   He only had 123, 231, and 141
assists those years as he played primarily alongside Drazen Petrovic and
Danny Ainge.

He was cut by the Blazers in favor of Lamont Strothers at the start of
the 91-92 season, a move that the coaches and at least some of the
players objected to.  He cleared waivers and was picked up by the Clips
as a backup point guard.  I had the impression from boxscores that he 
did pretty well at it, but I haven't seen his total stats as a Clipper.
He probably was waived by them.

Young didn't score a lot of points, but was a very reliable ball handler
and good defender who could back up Porter at the point.  He was a good
3-point shooter (.324 lifetime as of 91-92, but that includes a lot of
quarter-ending heaves) who might be best remembered for the shot that
didn't count.  Earl Strom, in the last game of his career, waived off
a very long 3-point shot by Young that would have tied the Blazers with
the Pistons in game 4 of the 89-90 finals.  Given Strom's supposed 
tendency to favor the visiting team, would it have counted in the
Palace?  Young and Petrovic had earlier gone wild from long range in 
game 2 of the Dallas series, bringing Portland back from 14 or 15 down
and what looked like a sure defeat.  (Yes, the Mavericks!)

Solid player who won't win you any games and can't score to bring you 
back, but also a player who won't make many mistakes with the ball in
his hands.
From: reille85@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: MO YASIN AT THE POINT GUARD???
Date: 20 Dec 92 01:13:48 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

MO YASIN - A NAME TO LOOK OUT FOR, HE's A RISING STAR AT THE POINT!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
From: jscott@micom.com (James Scott)
Subject: alvin back to SA?
Organization: Micom Communications Corp., Simi Valley, Ca.
Distribution: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:00:21 GMT

i hear rumor of alvin coming back to the spurs for next year's #1.
can any buck fans confirm/deny this?  apparently coby dietrich
(remember him?) told a spur beat writer that its a done deal ...
alvin had to agree to restructure for it to go through.

as for the sean elliott for (fill in your favorite sun) rumors,
tark apparently squashed any deals on elliott.  of course, any
gm who deals kevin duckworth for walter "butterknife" berry is
one i'd like to deal with :-).

later,

james

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