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From: gurd@next04wor.wam.umd.edu (Daffy Duck)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Take MARC to Orioles games
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:39:40 GMT
Reply-To: gurd@wam.umd.edu



   It's come to my attention that many people aren't using MARC's special  
MARC to the PARK rail service to Orioles games because they think it's too  
expensive.  There are a number of reduced fares available, so PLEASE  
consider using the train even if taking the train.

   First, as a reminder MARC offers service to ALL Orioles home games on  
ALL of it's lines.  Please call 1-800-325-RAIL in Maryland for more  
information.

   On Camden line trains ONLY their are special fares available. First buy  
a ROUND trip ticket.  At Washington Union Station you must by the ticket  
at the Amtrak ticket promenade to avoid paying a $3.00 surcharge.  
   At all other stations you can buy round trip tickets ONBOARD the train.   
The savings can be as much as 15%.  For example a round trip ticket from  
Union station is $9.00 a $1.00 savings of the cost of two one way trips.  
If your travelling with a group of 4 people or more use the baseball card  
fare. It entitles FOUR poeple travelling together a further discount.  For  
example the baseball card fare from Washington Union Station is $32.00 a  
further $1.00 savings of the cost of four round trip tickets.  A Family  
with children under 12 can use the FAMILY fare.  Up to four people can  
travel on this fare.  At least one person must be an adult but not more  
than two people can be adults.  At least one person must be a child but  
there can be no more than 3 children on this fare.  The fare from  
Washington Union Station is only $20.00 and additional children are only  
$2.00 roundtrip regardless of the normal childrens fare.  Finally groups  
of TEN or more travelling together can get special group fares of up to  
40% off.  You must make reservations at least a WEEK in advance and you  
must call CSX to make them, you can call for more details.  
   In addition the normal senior citizen (65 or over), disabled (w/ID),  
and children (under 12 w/parent) fares apply.
Xref: sparky um.general:252 dc.general:762 rec.food.veg:4327 talk.politics.animals:4997
From: nulspace@cs.umd.edu (Michael Chang)
Newsgroups: um.general,dc.general,rec.food.veg,talk.politics.animals
Subject: Re: UPC chicken vigil-ante at Perdue plant in Salisbury
Summary: Oh wait, we're talking about CHICKENS here...
Keywords: THIS IS REALLY SILLY
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:42:56 GMT
Followup-To: um.general
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Apr15.195358.16457@wam.umd.edu> dipster@wam.umd.edu (Sandip Dasgupta) writes:
>In article <1992Apr12.222034.4599@access.digex.com> cherry@access.digex.com (Cherry Poptart) writes:
>>In article <1992Apr8.141939.11898@socrates.umd.edu> jon@socrates.umd.edu (Jonathan Kruger) writes:
>>>
>>>   Chickens are ranging animals by nature who need plenty of fresh air,
>>>sunshine, exercise and fresh greens to stay healthy and feel good.  

Everything on this planet evolved in an open environment.  Roaming is not a 
preferential activity, it is merely the result of being hatched in the middle 
of a field.  In addition, chickens are completely domesticated.  Millions of
years ago, ancient Babylonians (I'm not a student of history, so I might be
a little wrong here), in anticipation of styrofoam (and sauces in little
plastic containers), decided to breed and domesticate chickens.  It's a little
absurd to label chickens as wild animals.

[...]
>waiting for yuou at Giant. Also, it is apparent that you 
>give no regard to the feeling of chickens.. thats something

If you are so stressed over the feelings of chickens, what about the feelings
of broccoli?  They are living creatures as well, and who are you to say that
they don't have feelings as well?  To arbitrarily say that vegetables don't
have feelings is the same as saying that chickens don't have feelings.

[various gripes about Frank Purdue's Industrial Activities deleted]

If you don't like Mr. Purdue that much, go buy Holly Farms Chicken.  That is
how consumers can directly affect the producers in the market.  Unfortunately, 
I've heard disturbing rumors about Dinah Shore.

>  Perdue wouldnt have gotten so high if he couldnt step
>on little footstools like yourelf.

Elf?  What elf?

mike, et. al.
-- 
Michael Chang 	inet: nulspace@cs.umd.edu    Department of Computer Science
(EE Goofball)   uucp: uunet!mimsy!nulspace   University of Maryland, College Pk
From: Liz.Lane@p938.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Liz Lane)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Sunday's NOW Protest
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 1992 17:11:42 -0500

Can we stop the abortion issue flaming before it begins? It's a very
volatile topic, and this is really not the best forum for it. (No, I'm
not the DC.GENERAL police force, but I see potential for some ugliness
here if this keeps going.)
From: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Theory about crowd estimates (was Re: CROWD SIZE ...)
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:26:00 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Independence
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Apr11.132722.7703@access.digex.com>, holland@access.digex.com (Brian Holland) writes...
>I've always felt that the Park Police underestimates crowd size regardless
>of the group that is holding a rally.  My theory is that if something, 
>such as a riot, were to occur, the Park Police would want to be able
>to allege that the crowd size was a small as possible.  That way they
>could not be accused of having too few officers on duty.


But it was 20 years ago that riots were likely to occur. Nowadays
demonstrations are well-organized and peaceful. If the police
underestimated crowds 20 years ago, then one could generalize
that they underestimate when protests are angry, and overestimate
when they are peaceful, since they have certainly overestimated
in recent years.
Newsgroups: um.general,dc.general,rec.food.veg,talk.politics.animals
From: rmccask@seas.gwu.edu (Randy McCaskill)
Subject: Re: UPC chicken vigil at Perdue plant in Salisbury
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:16:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.014906.3172@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
jennifer@algol.astro.Virginia.EDU (Jennifer Wesp) writes:
In yet another article ac@apmaths.uwo.ca (alka chandna) writes:
>Let me insert an informed opinion.  I have raised chickens.  They are
>literally too stupid to fly away from dogs, or to come in out of a
>hail storm.  Chickens are Dumb with a capital D.  You do them a
>service by keeping them in a temperature controlled, predator free
>environ with lots of food.  Food and sex is all that motivates them.
>Perdue chicks get plenty of both.

I have dealt with chickens at my grandmothers since I was young.  I
spent many of hours catching chickens for something to do.  (Being a
hyperactive child has its drawbacks.  :)  Chickens don't fly very well
because their bones are more solid than other birds.  (There are many
other reasons as well, there is no need to list them.)  This means
that flying does not come as naturally to them, especially since they
can run fairly fast.  But they do fly away from dogs, when running
doesn't work.  The problem is that they don't fly very fast or far, so
if there is no where for them to fly to, they end up being chased on
the ground again.  The only difference is that they are more tired.

Chickens are not that bad with weather either.  In a light rain, they
ignore it and keep going.  In heavy rain, they go for shelter.  Is
everything from your part of the country so dumb that it doesn't come
in out of a hail storm.  Maybe it is in the water.

>>Believe it or not, animals *do* suffer; they are not inanimate machinery.  

>A good way to insure the future suffering of Perdue chickens is to
>release them to "freely range," I assure you.  Ever watch a dog tear
>a chicken apart?  They aren't decent enough to kill them before
>plucking them, you know.

Then there is always the method of cutting off their heads and letting
them run around spurting blood.  This is always good.  Then hang them
on the closeline to drain some.  (Actually my grandmother hasn't done
this in quite a while.  Makes for tough meat.  This is true.)

>PS- I'm a vegitarian.  Not because it's healthy, or because I think
>    comercially raised meat suffers more while alive than "free
>    ranging" meat or sedentary broccoli. Just because meat tastes
>    nasty.

I am a meat eater.  I like the taste of meat and I feel that there is
nothing wrong with eating meat.  I will admit that I like my steak
well done though.  I feel sorry for anyone that limits what they are
allowed to eat in life.  The world has so many different tastes and I
want to try them all.  Then I'll go back and concentrate on the ones I
liked.

-Randy

P.S.:  I can't believe that I am discussing the intelligence and taste
of chickens.  :)

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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: holland@access.digex.com (Brian Holland)
Subject: Re: CROWD SIZE AT ABORTION RIGHTS
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 13:27:22 GMT

I've always felt that the Park Police underestimates crowd size regardless
of the group that is holding a rally.  My theory is that if something, 
such as a riot, were to occur, the Park Police would want to be able
to allege that the crowd size was a small as possible.  That way they
could not be accused of having too few officers on duty.

Brian




Newsgroups: dc.general
From: hsu@eng.umd.edu (Dagwood splits the Atom)
Subject: Re: Boston->DC Trip
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 20:43:30 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Engineering
Distribution: usa

In article <17733@oasys.dt.navy.mil> lung@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Terence Lung) writes:
>Does anyone have a best way for traveling from BOSTON to DC?
>I am looking for the quickest, safest, and least crowded route.
>
>If travel is during the week in the afternoon, get out of the
>armpit of New England before 2:30 pm--rushhour!!!!  Otherwise,
>you probably won't make it over the Hudson River until after
>sunset.

The only catch to this plan is that you suggested 95 down to 287,
which takes you through godawful (pothole- and cop-infested) I95 in
Connecticut and Rhode Island.

Dave's Near-Optimal Beantown<->DC Algorithm, based on dozens of trips
back and forth, says it's _much_ faster and stealthier to catch I-90
(Mass. Tpk) out of Boston, then cut through Connecticut (what is it,
I-89? to I-81? at Hartford, look it up in a road atlas) until you pick
up Route 15 (Wilbur Cross Pkwy) in Meriden.  That turns into the
Merritt Parkway about an hour out of NY, and smacks into the Thruway.
Then you skirt around the city until you pick up the GSP, then the
NJTP, then the Del Tpk and you're on your way.  My average trip takes
about 6:30 with one rest stop on the GSP, and you can come in well
under 6 if you really really REALLY hustle.  Do NOT attempt this
shortcut if you (1) can't drive high-speed sweepers, or (2) drive
significantly under 70mph, other factors permitting.  Also, note
that the 95->287 junction has you driving NORTH on 287, not South.

Some details may be off.

-dave

-- 
David Hsu    hsu@eng.umd.edu      "There you stand like a duck in a
U of Md Systems Research Ctr       thunderstorm again - aren't you ever
College Park, Md  20742-3311       going to understand?"
+1 301 405 3689                                        - W. A. Mozart
From: hersman@aplcomm.JHUAPL.EDU (Christopher Hersman JHU/APL (301)953-5000 x8098)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Shuffleboard ??
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:23:40 GMT
Reply-To: hersman@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (Christopher Hersman JHU/APL (301)953-5000 x8098)
Organization: JHU/APL, Laurel, MD

There is a table at the Grand Slam (bar) at the Grand Hyatt in DC. 
Approximately located at the corner of 11th and H St. NW.
Near the Metro Center Metro Station.

Newsgroups: um.general,dc.general,rec.food.veg,talk.politics.animals
From: jennifer@algol.astro.Virginia.EDU (Jennifer Wesp)
Subject: Re: UPC chicken vigil at Perdue plant in Salisbury
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:49:06 GMT

ac@apmaths.uwo.ca (alka chandna) writes:

>I would suggest that you open your eyes a little to try and understand what a 
>chicken is all about.  Blindly accepting the notion that chickens are dumb 
>animals that operate as automata is precisely that.  You may mock my ideas 
>by referring to them as being "sooo moral", but at least i've arrived at my 
>ideas by subjecting myself to scenarios which challenged aspects of my 
>upbringing and the indoctrination of the status quo.  I wonder if you can 
>say as much about your *thinking* (not condescending: thinking) on the issue.

Let me insert an informed opinion.  I have raised chickens.  They are
literally too stupid to fly away from dogs, or to come in out of a
hail storm.  Chickens are Dumb with a capital D.  You do them a
service by keeping them in a temperature controlled, predator free
environ with lots of food.  Food and sex is all that motivates them.
Perdue chicks get plenty of both.

>why don't *you* grow up.  to say that a choice between a shitty job and 
>unemployment is a choice is patently false.  there is such a thing as a 
>metaphorical gun (Frances Moore Lappe wrote a most excellent book on this 
>topic - the title, if I recall, is "Rediscovering America's Values" - and in 
>this she addresses this notion of the phantom nature of many so-called 
>choices).

Perhaps you should take this to alt.civil-liberties where they
discuss such things at length?  surely this is not the forum...

>Believe it or not, animals *do* suffer; they are not inanimate machinery.  

A good way to insure the future suffering of Perdue chickens is to
release them to "freely range," I assure you.  Ever watch a dog tear
a chicken apart?  They aren't decent enough to kill them before
plucking them, you know.

-jennifer

PS- I'm a vegitarian.  Not because it's healthy, or because I think
    comercially raised meat suffers more while alive than "free
    ranging" meat or sedentary broccoli. Just because meat tastes
    nasty.

PPS- You should go read news.announce.newusers' discussion on
     spelling and grammar flames.

Newsgroups: dc.general
From: lidl@sura.net (Kurt J. Lidl)
Subject: Re: MD Lotto (6 nums) for 4/8?
Organization: SURAnet -- 8400 Baltimore Blvd, College Park, MD 20740
Distribution: dc
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:41:35 GMT

In article <FROST.92Apr9091402@helix.nih.gov> frost@helix.nih.gov (James P. Goltz) writes:
>Anyone know what the Maryland 6-number Lotto numbers were for
>Wednesday, 4/8?
>
>Thanks.  I'll split winnings with whoever tells me--NOT.

Look!  Zero information content postings.

Now I would have never suspected it was posted from a government site.

-- 
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Newsgroups: um.general,dc.general,rec.food.veg,talk.politics.animals
From: schieb@isis.gsfc.nasa.gov (Brian D. Schieber)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Need a good auto mechanic
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:26:02 GMT
Organization: NASA Code 971, Oceans & Ice Branch

know one you'd recommend?
From: glenn@sloth.ncsl.nist.gov
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: UPC chicken vigil-ante at Perdue plant in Salisbury
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:04:02 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@sloth.ncsl.nist.gov
Organization: N.I.S.T
Posting-Front-End: Shinbun -- the OpenLook newsreader



Didn't Douglas Adams write something that showed how ludicrous this subject is.
Something on the lines of a cow-like animals raised that would ask you what cut
the customer would like and the animal would actually make recommendations before
going back to the cook to get butchered.  When Arthur Dent said he would prefer
a salad, the animal was offended and I believe that the waitor said something about
the "rights of vegetables" ;>  

I personally don't give a hoot about the rights of chickens (I've raised them in
the past and they are obnoxious animals).  The only thing I would have problems with
are those terrible commercials that Perdue has on the radio.  I mean, what about my
rights.  Why should I have to turn off my radio, so I won't have to suffer ;)

I find the entire subject silly and laughable, so I won't give it another
serious thought.

rob g.
glenn@osi.ncsl.nist.gov

flames ===> /dev/null
From: packer@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (Charles Packer)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Count the next march! (was Re: CROWD SIZE AT ABORTION...)
Date: 14 Apr 92 10:46:00 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Independence
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <702950422.F00007@blkcat.UUCP>, Deacon.Maccubbin@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Deacon Maccubbin) writes...
>anyone would want to do that, I don't know <grin>), you might want to put April
>25, 1993 on your calendar.  That's the date of the next gay, lesbian and
>bisexual march on Washington and organizers have mobilized to turn out more than
>1,000,000 people for it.



You might also want to join me in estimating the size of the crowd.
Help roll back the drift towards hype that's, well, EVERYWHERE!
From: Liz.Lane@p938.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Liz Lane)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Bethesda Haircuts Summary
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 13:51:56 -0500

A while back I asked about haircuts in the Bethesda area, and promised
to post a summary. Here it is, finally.

==================

After 2 years of going to varying places, I finally found
a place I've been going to regularly the past year.  It's
called Backstage (654-STYL) and the person to ask for is Beth.

----------

My mom has gone off and on for years to the House of Alexis, which is in the 
Bradley shopping center on Arlington Rd & Bradley Blvd, across from the 
24-hour People's.  I don't have extremely fine hair, but it is thin and curly 
enough for me to have problems finding a haircut I'm happy with long term.
I've gotten my hair done there periodically, including for my wedding, and
I've always been really happy with the job they've done.  I don't know if
they're walking distance from where you live/work, but they're only about
a 15 minute walk from the Bethesda Metro.

----------

Well, it's not Bethesda, but I have an excellent hair stylist in Adams
Morgan.   Her name is Moyra, and she works at Haircuts 100 on 18th St,
a moderate walk from the Woodley Park metro station.   Good luck.

----------

My wife, who also has thin fine hair, swears by Martin
Cohen, a stylist at (and co-owner of) Salon Ito, on St. Elmo Avenue in
Bethesda.  Their phone number is 301-718-0300.

================

I ended up trying--and liking--Martin at Salon Ito. I waited to post
this because I like to see how well a haircut grows out before passing
judgement on it. This one has worked out well. Many thanks to all who 
responded, and particularly to the person who suggested Salon Ito!

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Newsgroups: dc.general
From: jisaac@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Jean C. Isaac)
Subject: moving sale
Keywords: moving sale
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax Va.
Distribution: dc
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:09:45 GMT



	===========
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	===========

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**** TYPEWRITER EPSON ELITE 300 correct, edit
	spell check, thesaurus				$150 ******

**** STEREO DUO-CASSETTE RECORD PLAYER EQUALIZER	$50  ******

**** DUO-CASSETTE ALARM CLOCK				$25  *****

**** HEATER/FAN 1500W new				$15  *****

**** SMALL FAN						$5   *****


contact Jean-Christophe Isaac
(703) 255-2808 (H)
(703) 993-1704 (W)
Email jisaac@gmuvax2.gmu.edu
Newsgroups: dc.general
From: andy@access.digex.com (Andrew M Cohn)
Subject: June Computer Show & Hamfest
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: dc
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:34:48 GMT

Coming Sunday, June 7, 1992: Manassas Hamfest & Computer Show

Hours: 8am to 4pm (7am for tailgaters)

Admission:  $5.00 per person  (Tailgaters $5.00 plus admission)

Location:  Prince William County Fairgrounds, Route 234, 1/2 mile
           south of Manassas

Free parking * Food available * Hourly prizes * Major door prize at 3pm

Comments: A good event if weather is decent. Usually lots of computer
          vendors and used stuff, too. Plenty of ham radio stuff.

Newsgroups: dc.general
From: pjm@access.digex.com (Paul Masline)
Subject: Public meeting for Capital Area FreeNet
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: dc
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:32:12 GMT

The Capital Area FreeNet Committe will hold a public meeting on Wednesday,
April 29, at 7 PM in the George Washington University Marvin Center Theater,
800 21st ST., NW.   For more information call (202) 994-6455 or reply to
myself at pjm@digex.com.

Further details about the meeting will be posted closer to the date.

Thank you,

Paul Masline

-- 
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                                       pjm@digex.com
                                       pjm@po.cwru.edu
From: Deacon.Maccubbin@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Deacon Maccubbin)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: CROWD SIZE AT ABORTION R
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 12:57:48 -0500

You said, "Even at 500,000 people, the march
was the largest that Washington has ever seen..."
 
Not quite.  The 1987 gay March on Washington drew 650,000 by nearly everyone's
estimate, making it (at that time) the largest civil rights march in
Washington's history. Nonetheless, whether the actual number for the March for
Women's Lives was 500,000 or a million or whatever, it was a humongous
outpouring and I was pleased to be a part of it.
 
For those who like to avoid Washington during a large march (though why on earth
anyone would want to do that, I don't know <grin>), you might want to put April
25, 1993 on your calendar.  That's the date of the next gay, lesbian and
bisexual march on Washington and organizers have mobilized to turn out more than
1,000,000 people for it.

Newsgroups: dc.general
From: lai@seas.gwu.edu (William Y. Lai)
Subject: Wanted:  Summary on PC dealers
Originator: lai@seas.gwu.edu
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: dc
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 01:50:43 GMT

I missed the thread on the PC dealers in the area.  Can anyone summarizes the
discussion and email me info?  I just caught the one message about Accel being
unreliable but will exchange parts discussion, but didn't remember what dealer
to try.  Thanks.


William

-- 
email: lai@seas.gwu.edu | "I want to do everything.  I want to have everything.
                        |  I have a wonderful, wonderful life.  But there's so
George Washington Univ. |  much more out there.  Do I have it all?  Yes.  Do I
Washington, D.C.        |  want more?  Yeah, sure."     -Demi Moore
From: carolyns@cs.umd.edu (carolyn seaman)
Newsgroups: dc.general
Subject: Re: Boston->DC Trip
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:07:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742


>the NJ Turnpike near Edison, NJ, and then it's straight down I-95
>to DC.

>-Carolyn

Oops.  I meant, take the NJ Turnpike to the Delaware Memorial Bridge,
then take I-95 all the way to DC.  Don't take I-95 through Philadelphia.