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From: lukka@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tuomas J Lukka)
Subject: ref.tfs.com -- check out what the 386BSD people have.
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 06:51:29 GMT

I forgot, in the article where I mentioned ref.tfs.com, the 386BSD
community centre, to give the login etc.

How to get there:
telnet to ref.tfs.com  (140.145.254.251)
log in as guest (no password)
follow the instructions in making an account for yourself.

Any questions should be addressed to Julian Elischer, the
maintainer, I believe his address is julian@tfs.com
or julian@tfs2.com or something like that.
Also julian@ref.tfs.com, but he seems rarely to read it.

The system is a complete 386BSD system up&running connected to the
network. There are mailing lists for people interested in 
386BSD stuff, several source trees (ALL utilities, 
just about all ported packages are installed there, 
several kernels (original,patched,experimental)), facilities
to compile your own kernel if you lack the disk space,
or have too little memory, etc. etc. etc.

So, does anybody have the possibility to provide something like
this for Linux? I think it would be a very good idea.

If we could get a machine with LOTS of disk space and 
set it up to a sort of a "standard" source tree etc,
then we might get a LOT less FAQs here. We could also
standardise the packages (each package in a directory
that has a src, bin, man and symbolic links from
/usr/bin, /usr/man into there. Then installing
a package would be easy, you'd take the appropriate
packages (bin,man,src), and a script would untar them
and make the links. If you only wanted the bin and man,
no prob, also get the source later and compile away.
Something like /usr/packages ???
Also, for easy install, the packages needing anything
else should contain BOTH instructions and a script
so that both wizards and newbies can use them the
way they want to. But I digress..)
(More digressing: version control, distributions etc.
 could be easily managed from such a machine...)

For the second time, if anyone volunteers a machine on the net
for this, I'm willing to participate as a sysadmin to the
extent possible over the net.

Any takers?

	TJL
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lam836@cs.cuhk.hk (Savio Lam)
Subject: Problem compiling olvwm
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 06:30:08 GMT

I am trying to compile olvwm but lacking a file called "libobz.a", would
anyone please tell me where to get this file?

	Thanks in advance.

Regards
Savio Lam.
email: lam836@cs.cuhk.hk
From: tfoley@camaro.uucp (Tim Foley)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SLS 98p5: ioctl invalid argument in boot up
Date: 28 Dec 92 23:46:27 GMT
Organization: camaro

In article <1992Dec28.162258.28622@r-node.gts.org> marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Admin) writes:
>In article <1992Dec28.134615.12447@news.ysu.edu> ah214@yfn.ysu.edu (Weijin Mai) writes:
>>
>>	Every Linux boot up, it gives ioctl : Invalid argument. What is ioctl?
>>Is this a serious problem? How can I fix it?
>
>I get that error too...was told to just ignore it...but I hate having 
>warnings, so if someone has an answer, please post it? :)
>
>Thanks...
>
>Marc

  Hi Mark, moving into the Linux world eh...good stuff.
 
 The error (if you are using SLS) is most likely the lack of the eth0 from 
the space.c in the kernel, this error is generated by the CONFIG $IPADDR 
etc... line in the rc.net file, I had the same thing, since I don't have an 
ethernet card installed or defined, I just killed that line, check in the 
usr/etc/inet for rc.net and the config line, add some echo statements to 
your rc.* scripts to narrow it down if this is not the problem.
 
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From: danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon)
Subject: Re: Ctrl-Alt-Del
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 07:14:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.023952.884@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>
>There are several different ways to shut down most unix boxes, linux amoung
>them. 
>
>shutdown on its own generally drops the system into single user mode. This
>depends on which /etc/init you are running.
>
>'shutdown -r' reboots the system. If you don't have to let anyone know that
>you are shutting down (ie. you are the only user) then "shutdown -r now" or
>"reboot" will do things immediately.
>
>'shutdown -h' halts the system. "shutdown -h now" and "halt" are equivalent.

Sorry, Tom, but none of those commands will reboot my system.  The
keyboard just goes dead and that's it until I press the hardware reset
button. I have the 0.99 SLS installed on a Gateway 2000 486/33C (not the
local bus!) and with the AnyKey keyboard.  So, what gives?

Joe
From: meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.mil (Michael E. Hoffman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help! 0.99 won't boot!
Keywords: 0.99, mount
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:26:38 GMT
Reply-To: meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.mil (Michael E. Hoffman)

In article <2562@usna.NAVY.MIL>, meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.mil (Michael
E. Hoffman) writes:
|> I too have been having problems getting 0.99 to boot, although I haven't
|> seen exactly my problem posted.  So here is my story . . .

The problem's now solved--keep reading if you want to know how . . .
  
|> 1.  CONFIG WOES:  I did have a little trouble getting 0.99 to compile.
|> The make bombed out with filesystems.a not being created.  I looked at
|> the Makefile in linux/fs and saw that a new variable SUBDIRS_FS had
|> been introduced, and apparently was being set by a bunch of ifdef stuff
|> at the beginning.  Trouble was, 'make config' never asked me what
filesystems
|> I wanted, and the .config it generated didn't have anything about
SUBDIRS_FS.
|> I finally just got rid of all the ifdef stuff and put in a line
|> SUBDIRS_FS = minix efs msdos proc nfs
|> at the beginning of the Makefile.  That at least got everything to compile.

This should have made me suspicious, since nobody else had reported such a
configuration problem.  I finally thought to check the 'config.in' file,
and realized that it had been truncated in the process of being
transferred from 
my Sun to my home machine.

|> 2.  Took my shiny new Image, put it in /etc, ran /etc/lilo/install, and
|> rebooted.  Disaster.  I got all the usual boot-up messages, and right after
|> 'Partition tables ok' things came to abrupt halt with
|> 
|> Kernel panic:  Unable to mount root
|> 
|> Well, I thought, it's probably because I need to apply Linus's two-line
|> patch.  So I did that, recompiled the kernel and tried to boot again.
|> Same result.

When I replaced 'config.in' with an uncorrupted copy, everything worked fine. 
ps broke (of course), but recompiling from the source on tsx-11 fixed it.

|> 3.  [description of unnecessary fix omitted]
|> 4.  So I'm stumped, and hereby beg the Net for help.  Here is my hardware
|> setup:
|> Zenith Z-386, 16 MHz 386DX + Cyrix 387, 5 Mb Zenith proprietary RAM 
|> (no cache)
|> 2 40 Mb MFM hard disks, partitioned as follows
|> /dev/hda1   DOS (yuck)
|> /dev/hda2   minix fs mounted on /usr/local
|> /dev/hdb1   minix fs mounted on /
|> /dev/hdb2   minix fs mounted on /usr
|> /dev/hdb3   swap
|> I'm booting with LILO 0.7.  My compiler is GCC 2.2.2d7 with the 4.1 jump 
|> tables.

So now we know 0.99 works on this peculiar setup.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: reubenr@netcom.com (Reuben Regucera)
Subject: X and Orchid Fahrenheit 1280
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:05:51 GMT

I have just installed SLS.98p5 from sunsite and everything
looks fine. My problem is the chipset for my video card (86c924)
is not in the Xconfig choices. Is it not supported or is there a sub?
My configuration is:
	EMPAC 486/50 w/ 256k cache
              24 M ram 500 M ide hd 
			Partition 1 - MessDOS5.0 300M
			Partition 2 - Linux      200M 
		Orchid Fahrenheit 1280 with 17" Nanao Monitor
		
Reuben V Regucera
reubenr@netcom.com
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: splee@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Seng-Poh Lee)
Subject: Re: Smail 3.1 on SLS 0.99. Can't send smtp mail!
Organization: Alchemy International
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:32:48 GMT

Vince Skahan (vince@halcyon.com) wrote:
> david@prism.demon.co.uk (David Metcalfe) writes:
> 
> >The smail binary provided with SLS doesn't have the smtp drivers
> 
[stuff on smtp configuration deleted]

> when you test this, please let me know if it worked.  I'm more than
> willing to update the smail3.1.28 I sent to Peter with additional
> drivers, etc. as long as it doesn't break anything else that other folks
> are depending on (ie...it I change the driver to bsd-network, will that
> break the uucp-based setup that probably many more people (including me)
> depend on?).

I recompiled the smail package from sunsite with those variables changed
and I now have a working smtp mailer.  It works fine.  I have mine
configured more like sendmail, but other than that, I made no other
changes.  From my understanding of the way smail works, I don't believe
those bsd-network changes will affect uucp.  After all, bsd machines
with sendmail use uucp too.  I will find out when I try that out at my
home system with uucp as the basic transport. 

--
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: amir@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Guindehi Amir)
Subject: [Q] Problems with mount -t msdos
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:01:58 GMT

Hi !
I'm a new Linux user and would like to know if there are any problems with
mountig MSDOS-Filesystems into the Linux FS. I would like to mount my
dos-partitions in my /etc/rc file, but I would like too, not to trash it,
because there are some important MSDOS-Data's.

So can I do it, without trashing my msdos-FS in the future or not ?

THX in advance

- Amir Guindehi

Email : amir@avalon.physik.unizh.ch
	aguindeh@iiic.ethz.ch

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Wild interrupt?
Keywords: serial devices
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 16:19:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.105808.28239@informatik.uni-ulm.de> canver@mordor.informatik.uni-ulm.de (Ercument Canver) writes:
>
>I just compiled the .99p1 kernel and installed it on the hard disk. 
>I am booting with LILO-0.7.
>Right at bootup I get a message saying
>
>...
>Wild interrupt? (IRQ 1)
>ttys0 at 0x03f8 (irq = 4) is a 16450
>ttys1 at 0x02f8 (irq = 3) is a 16450
>...
>
>As a result of this, the mouse attached to /dev/ttys0 isn't handled properly.
>However, it works just fine with the boot floppy (.98p5) made by the SLS 
>installation procedure; this one also doesn't report the "Wild interrupt".
>
>Is there a bug in .99p1 or am I doing something wrong when I compile the kernel?
>Thanx for your help.
>
>Cheers,
>
>	E.Canver
>	canver@informatik.uni-ulm.de

I too see the "Wild interrupt? (IRQ 1)", but it causes me no grief,
so I ignored it.  (I am writing this via ttys0 now).

Peter.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dmw@teal.csn.org (Dave Warner)
Subject: Re:Question about ISA/IDE disk throughput (pc newbie)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 02:52:32 GMT


turbo@cse.uta.edu (Chris Turbeville) writes:

>In article <MUTS.92Dec21193512@PMCS.estec.esa.nl> muts@estec.esa.nl (Peter Mutsaers) writes:
>>Sorry if you see this message twice. I posted before but the article
>>didn't seem to show up.
>I didn't see it twice.
>>
>>In a magazine I read for a couple of 386sx PC's that disk access (IDE)
>>is only at 200 kbyte/s. This seems terribly slow to me, especially
>>for an OS like unix. Is this really true? Do 486dx's have much better
>>IO speeds? How can UNIX live with such a low bandwidth. Are local
>>busses much faster (how much)?
>200kB/s sounds about right for IDE (save the newer caching controllers)
>and it is terribly slow.  486dx's make no improvement on disk transfer
>speed.  It is your 16bit 8Mhz ISA bus which is limiting it.  I don't
>think full blown vmunix would live well in such an environment.  Local
>busses are faster and so is EISA but here is my quandry.  I want top

	[stuff deleted]

	My experience differs.
	Here's an iozone benchmark on a Gateway dx2-66v, 8MB ram with
local bus and a WD IDE drive (Pirhana, I think) with linux.0.99 -- output
from 'free' included to show cache size:

        IOZONE: Performance Test of Sequential File I/O  --  V1.16 (10/28/92)
                By Bill Norcott

        Operating System: POSIX 1003.1-1988

        Send comments to:       norcott_bill@tandem.com

        IOZONE writes a 16 Megabyte sequential file consisting of
        32768 records which are each 512 bytes in length.
        It then reads the file.  It prints the bytes-per-second
        rate at which the computer can read and write files.


Writing the 16 Megabyte file, 'iozone.tmp'...22.610000 seconds
Reading the file...17.770000 seconds

IOZONE performance measurements:
        742026 bytes/second for writing the file
        944131 bytes/second for reading the file

/home>free     
             total       used      cache       free     shared
memory:       7316       5040       2232         44       3884
swap0:       16380          8                 16372          0

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dennis Robinson)
Subject: HELP: upgrading SLS?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 06:47:30 GMT

Installed .98-5 already.  Ready to go on up to .99, how is this done?
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: prv2d@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Peter Villadsen)
Subject: Re: List of Broken Bins under 0.99 [v1.2]
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 21:11:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.181854.5741@sol.UVic.CA> pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:
>
>Look, you may mean well, but posting this kind of official sounding misinformation
>is more damaging than helpful.
>
   
   On the contrary, it can potentially be very helpful. But instead of
ragging the attempt, suggestions on improvements would be more useful.

   Peter
From: hlu@luke.eecs.wsu.edu (H.J. Lu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Where are gethostbyname() & getservbyname()?
Date: 2 Jan 93 18:56:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1993Jan2.185617.26076
Organization: Washington State University!

In article <C08LJI.3tw@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> dsc3pzp@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Philip Perucci) writes:
>In article <1993Jan2.144136.29452@athena.mit.edu> nmp08@rz.uni-kiel.dbp.de writes:
>>I have a problem with the new gcc-2.3.3 stuff: several packages won't compile
>>anymore (e.g. plp) because of two missing functions: 'gethostbyname()' and 
>>'getservbyname()'. ld claims about not finding these symbols.
>>Where are these functions gone?
>>
>>Any hints would be appreciated.
>>Please reply to: nmp08@rz.uni-kiel.dbp.de
>> 
>
>I believe H.J. Lu left the networking functions out of the original release
>"last year" (week).  They seemed to be added now, at least on tsx-11.mit.edu.
>

Only libg.a and libc_p.a were messed up. Others are ok.

>-- 

H.J.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: greg@spool (Greg Wells)
Subject: Re: X and Orchid Fahrenheit 1280
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:38:41 GMT

Reuben Regucera (reubenr@netcom.com) wrote:
: I have just installed SLS.98p5 from sunsite and everything
: looks fine. My problem is the chipset for my video card (86c924)
: is not in the Xconfig choices. Is it not supported or is there a sub?

Hi Reuben,

You need to pick up an XS3 server from an ftp site.  archie at my site
reveals only two sites with XS3:

Host ascwide.ascii.co.jp

    Location: /pub/386BSD/0.1-ports
	  DIRECTORY drwxr-xr-x       2048  Nov 16 13:08  XS3

Host isfs.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp

     Location: /BSD/0.1-ports
    	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        384  Dec 15 03:29  XS3
     Location: /BSD/386BSD-0.1-ports
          DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        384  Dec 15 03:29  XS3
     Location: /BSD/386bsd-0.1/unofficial/ports
	  DIRECTORY drwxrwxr-x        384  Dec 15 03:29  XS3

I have mouse configuration problems which caused my server to hang with 
no possible software interupt, so if your Orchid 1280 does not work at first 
with the XS3 Xconfig, you may wnat to look at the mouse settings first.

--
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All statements are my own opinions and do not in any way represent
MSI as an organization.
From: ludwig@wefunk.rent.com (Mitchel F. Ludwig)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS location?
Date: 30 Dec 92 05:34:31 GMT
Organization: WEFUNK, the Mothership Connection. East Brunswick, NJ


   I'm probably gonna get hosed for this but . . .

   I've got a system thats feeding off of an internet site
(rutgers.edu).  Unfortunately, I don't have ftp access from anywhere.
I'm looking for a site on the internet that has a mail-based archive
server running, and who would be willing to let me snarf the SLS
distribution from them.  I realize that there are *ALOT* of disks,
that's why I'm posting this *ASK* request.  I'd rather not aggrevate
anyone out there inadvertantly.

   So, if you've got the SLS dist. available for download, and are
running an MBAS, or if you know of a reliable MBAS that I can use to
access tsx-11, please let me know by mail.  I'll post the replies I
get, and when I'm done installing Linux, I promise that there will be
a slice of my machine devoted to Linux distributions, and we will
finally have a Mid-Jersey site with the Linux software available.

   Thanx in advance.

   Mitch.

   Also, if you know of any systems in the 201 or 908 area that have
the SLS for download, please let me know.

Mitch
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: danubius@halcyon.com (Joseph R. Pannon)
Subject: Printer drivers and interfaceing DOS partitions
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:35:00 GMT

I have two new questions here if I may.

1.)  Are there some dot matrix printer drivers in linux somewhere that
would enable one to print out files not only in plain
teletype mode, but with some formatting?
  One application for this would be to print out man pages with BOLD
attributes the way they look on the screen.  Right now if I pipe those 
man pages to  /dev/lp1 the output is pretty useless.

2.) I noticed that when I copy an ASCII file from my DOS partition to
the linux partition, the copy retains the carriage return (ASCII 13)
character that goes together in DOS files with LF, but is not needed in
Unix.  I had to write myself a little filter to get rid off these extra
CRs, but it occured to me that there should be some intelligent 'cp'
function that strips them automatically on import from DOS, and perhaps
adds them on export.  I realize, that the std cp command could not
possibly know whether it copies a text file or a binary, but perhaps
there is a modified cp somewhere that has a command switch for something
like this.  Well, is there?

Thanks,
Joe Pannon
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Admin)
Subject: known problem with email...buy why?
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 08:36:23 GMT

Hi...

	There is a now known problem with email, where if you do not
create the mailbox when you create the user id, the mailbox ownership
gets screwed up.

	Peter acknowledges it, as he has given us a 'fix' for it...but
it is only a superficial fix...

	What is different with Linux/SLS over, lets say, my current
OS, Interactive?  Why do I not have that problem here?  I have smail
3.1.25 installed, I have elm installed, so that so common.  One thing
I did notice, while 'comparing' the systems...my Interactive has a
lmail program...Linux doesn't.  Could that be the problem?  I'm not
sure if my system is using lmail, or if it is just left over from when
I originally installed it.

	I myself am at a loss for ideas...I've checked all the
permissions and ownerships and nothing seems 'out of place'...except
that it doesn't 'chown username /usr/spool/mail/username' after it
creates the folder.

Anyone?

Marc
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From: vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan)
Subject: Re: A discipline for packages
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 05:57:44 GMT

pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald) writes:

>Actually, I was thinking of replacing them with hard links.  But for now,
>I will probably just refrain from adding symlinks to the packages I 
>put together.

ok, stupid question time.

why is a soft link that uses maybe an inode worse than a hard link that
uses real disk space, right ?

why mess with what the package author's obviously intended?  Seems to me
you're taking a position that'll lead to you fixing something that isn't
broken...at the risk of considerable blood pressure.


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From: estephen@whosnext.cad.gatech.edu (Eric R Stephens)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS missing linux/*.h ???
Date: 30 Dec 1992 22:07:37 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, CAE/CAD Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: whosnext.cad.gatech.edu
Keywords: includes

I'm trying to compile tvtwm, tcl, and Tk and I can't seem to find all the  
necessary includes in SLS.

/usr/include/sys/types.h etc.. ask to include "linux/types.h".  Where can these  
files be found.