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From: c3088@moncol.monmouth.edu (CHRIS CANE)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Sandman
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:00:38 GMT
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Organization: Monmouth College, W. Long Branch, N.J.  07764

In article <7594@monmouth.edu> c3088@moncol.monmouth.edu (CHRIS CANE) writes:
>Who in your opinion is sandman?  where did they get that name from?
>
nothing like posting to your own post...

what i am after is NOT loose interpretations- i am looking for
someone who has heard from the horses mouth (james H.) why the
name sandman and what it means literally, symbolically, or
fictitiously.  i have an idea of who sandman is and where
he got it from- i just want some more knowledgeabler metalli-
head to confirm.  i know it's about crib death or some such 
nightmarish childhood thing...
:wq


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From: idc@ukc.ac.uk (I.D.Catchpole)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: New Metallica Video Set
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:38:13 GMT
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.


Thought you people might want to know about this...taken from last weeks
Kerrang! here in the UK:

At Home With Metallica!

Metallica release two full-length "home movie" videos on November 16.

The first volume is titled "A Year-And-A-Half In The Life Of Metallica", the
second simply "...Continued."

Part One documents the making of last year's multi-Platinum 'Metallica' album.
Candid footage includes outtakes and rough versions of songs which were left
off the album.

Part Two is a tour diary which follows the band on the road to the Monsters Of
Rock shows at Donington and Moscow, to the Freddie Mercury tribute concert for
AIDS Awareness at Wembley Stadium and on to the biggest US arena tour of 1992,
which Metallica co-headlined with Guns N' Roses.  "...Continued" ends around
the time of guitarist/vocalist James Hetfield's recent onstage accident, in
which he sustained serious burns to his right arm when a pyrotechnic exploded
prematurely.

Promo videos for each of the singles from the "Metallica" album - "Enter
Sandman", "Sad But True", "Whereever I May Roam", and "The Unforgiven" - also
feature over the two parts.

The first volume has an approximate running time of 100 minutes, the second
140 minutes.  Each has a retail price of #12.99 (British Pounds).

The covers have been illustrated by noted San Franciscan artist Pushead, who
has worked with Metallica for several years.

In the first volume's sleeve notes, the band explain how these videos
originated:

"When we heard the demos for our fifth album we figured that we had the real
s**t.  So we called our video connection, Juliana, and asked her for
someone who could cover the making of the record in LA and beyond, you know,
basically film everything!

"Enter Adam Dubin and his cohort Vinnie.  For nine-plus months, they were
there - all day and night (in the way) - letting the cameras run.

"Watch and listen as demos become finished.  Listen to why it really takes us
nine months to complete an album.  Meet producer Bob Rock with his sidekick
Randy.  Listen to Metallica jam on different versions of the new songs.

"Get it all; mixing, mastering, mistakes, making videos, manufacturing, etc.
Find out what we're talking about when we talk about the `joys' of the studio.

"We hope you dig checking out how it all came together.  Tune in to Part Two
as we explore the other side of being in Metallica - the never-ending two-year
tour.  To be continued..."



Well that's it.  Does anyone know if this will be showing up in the US as
I really want to get a copy when I return home?

Ian
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: whiplash@cs.montana.edu (Mike Wagner)
Subject: Recent boot videos wanted
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:42:22 GMT
From: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Words wanted
Date: 28 Sep 1992 00:25:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
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Could someone who has the words to that song, I think it is called
``Victory'', right after ``Bass Souls'' off of Kill 'E, All, please
post the words to it.  Thanks.
From: maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Be nice to newbies week.
Date: 1 Oct 92 06:21:38 GMT
Reply-To: maf10@po.CWRU.Edu (Moses A. Fridman)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, njhand@vax1.tcd.ie () says:

>Metallica : ... MOP (I don't like it much,...
>
>Iron Maiden : Only joking, hah! Fished you right in, sign of the net,
>Nick the bassmaster. These people are good for t-shirts, not music.
>
>Def Leppard, Europe, Bon Jovi : See "Iron Maiden"
>
>Spinal Tap : Soundtrack, videocasette,

I'm amazed.  Anyone care to take a stab at this guy's intelligence/hearing/
sexual orientation/omnipotence? He sure seems to know everything...


                                               Moses
 

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From: ultimate@tron.gun.de (Frank Stender)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Escape... what?
Date: 27 Sep 92 11:25:00 GMT
Organization: TRON Public Mailbox, Neurath, Germany

-> At this point, the guys started a shitty-sounding take of "Escape",
->    then cut it off after a few seconds.  James said, "Why'd we stop
->    the song?  'Cause that song sucks!"  Of course the newbies were
->    lost.  :-)

OK, beat me up and lock me in - I'm a newbie. What's the stuff behind
"Escape" after all?

 Z-Netz  : ULTIMATE@WANDERER.ZER                --- Frank Stender ---
 Fido    : Frank Stender 2:242/21.111 or 2:245/5807
 InterNet: ultimate@tron.gun.de
        or Frank_Stender@ouzonix.bo.open.de   via -- THE ANSWER V2.03
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Boxed Set
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:35:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.153333.16089@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Gordon.S.Witter@dartmouth.edu (Gordon S. Witter) writes:
>I've been told by a couple of local record store owners that Metallica
>is putting out a boxed set before the end of the year.  From the
>description that both of them gave, it sounds an awful lot like the set
>that was released in Europe.  Neither of the two sources had any idea
>what I was talking about when I mentioned the European set.  I haven't
>heard anything else about this US boxed set, and I kinda question the
>validity of both sources.  Anybody have any info?
>
>Also, does anyone have the track list of the European set?
>
>-dino
>
kIf it's the same as what I saw in Japan released three years ago, it's
just the JUMP IN THE FIRE, CREEPING DEATH, ONE, HARVESTER OF SORROW, THE $5.98
EP - GARAGE DAYS RE-REVISITED EPs plus maybe one more but I can't remember.
Just like the Iron Maiden box set (all their singles and EPs in one collection).

philip
PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: bimson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (GREG)
Subject: Re: To Live Is To Die (Was  Re: Ballads)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:29:00 GMT

In article <6650@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, mgtst2+@pitt.edu (Michael G Thompson) writes...
> 
>Well, I believe if you look on the inside cover somewhere
>(though I'm not absolutely sure) it says all songs are sung
>by Hetfield except "To Live is To Die", which Burton "sings".
>Like I said, I'm not sure.
> 
[sig deleted]

No, you did slightly misinterpret what the inside cover says.  It says 

All lyrics by Hetfield except 'To Live is To Die' by Burton.

Hetfield has written and sung lyrics to all songs Metallica has ever 
written since releasing KEA.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: mortena@ifi.uio.no (Morten Amundsen)
Subject: Metallica and Wayne
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 08:28:05 GMT
Originator: mortena@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no



 Headbanger's Ball (Europe) yesterday was a Megadeth special, and it
 was pretty cool... In the 'Triple Thrash Treat' Megadeth selected
 N.I.N, The Almighty and Metallica (Enter Sandman). After Ellefson
 had selected Metallica's Enter Sandman, Mustaine said:

 'Wayne has made that video twice before.'

 Which one are that?? I know Queen has a video with a similar
 band footage in it, but I don't know if 'Wayne' made that one...

 Morten.

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: gumby@next13pg2.wam.umd.edu (cajun man)
Subject: Thanks
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:38:55 GMT

First of all, I would like to thank those of you who sent me replies to my  
search for good metal.  I have listened to almost all of the groups  
suggested (Most of my friends are metal heads), and I have found that of  
all of them, Sepultura and Testament are the ones that this "newbie" :-)  
jams to in his cd player the most, with Obituary running a close third.   
Thanks again for the "help" in finding my true affection for music.   
(Damn, I just read that and want to puke).  Also, I mentioned the one  
radio station in my area that played decent music most of the time, but I  
found out that the campus station has a metal show once a week, and they  
play Helmet, Sepultura, Pantera, Metallica, Slayer, etc.  (For those of  
you out there who go to UMCP, it is WMUC 88.1 every thurs. from  
9-midnight).  
I also wanted to remind those of you who think all newbies listen to KLF,  
Madonna, etc (no offense to you, Erik), I haven't been in the metal scene  
very long, but those are the kinds of groups I can do without.  I am sure  
that I am not the only one, but one of a few who thinks like that, so  
don't flame us in general.  It's like seniors flaming freshmen at school,  
even they themselves were once in the same position.  'nuff said.
Also for those of you in college park, md, when you hear (and you will if  
you are within 50 yards of me) some of the above mentioned groups coming  
from a blue and white Ford truck to see someone with short ( and I mean  
short) hair driving.  (nothing wrong with long hair, except when you play  
a sport where the coach makes you cut it).

Enough bullshit. The Cavelara boys from Brazil call.

So let it be written, so let it be done, I'm sent here by the chosen one.

gumby
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: mespinos@spock.NMSU.Edu (Michael C Espinosa)
Subject: Valkor knows....Metallica
Keywords: Nuno!
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 02:51:14 GMT

ok, ok
it's time for me to throw in my 2 cents worth...

first of all i would like to say that....i really know how much it
"hurts" when all of a sudden, a band that you have loved forever, and stuck  
with forever, makes it big in the mainstrean society.  I know this is really  
totally ironic because it seems that a person would want only the best for his  
or her favorite band....but i can really understand how it pisses people off  
when some little punk walks starts blabbing about how much he loves "that new  
group - Metallica" and that he has "always" been a fan.....makes me want to  
scream....ARGH!  But on the bright side, Metallica will never forget their  
"true" fans and i know will continue to rock.....besides, i think Metallica  
deserves all of their newfound success....nuff said.

valkor


Time! -   has taken its toll on YOU!

we'll never stop...cause we're Metallica......

forever...
From: 00bjgood@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Kill Hetfield
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:13:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.230711.861@cheshire.oxy.edu>, dementia@cheshire.oxy.edu (Daniel Steven Reinker) writes:
> In article <Buu98I.Gz8@acsu.buffalo.edu> v003nnc3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (THE PERVERT) writes:
>>
>>I would just like to say that the people on this group need to relax.  The
>>Black album is not a symbol of commercialization for Metallica.  If you knew
>>their attitude, then you would realize that they do whatever they want
>>musically, and don't just make music to please their fans.  They thought it was
>>time to make a different album, and just because some people don't like it
>>doesn't mean it sucks.  This was a relaxed album, rather than a sociopolitical
>>album.  Not all their albums sound the same anyways.  Just listen to Kill Em'
>>All, then And Justice For All, and you'll understand.  As for killing James for
>>"selling out", GET A GRIP ON REALITY!
>>					awaiting any response,
>>					Phil Delyani
> 
> This is my impression of the different attitudes of Metallica, judging from
> interviews, music, etc.
> 
> Hetfield: He's in it for the music, and seems to take as much pride in such
> songs as Nothing Else Matters as he does in, say, Whiplash. I think that fans
> have misjudged Hetfield all along. It sounds to me as if he has had a sensitive
> side all along, and has just not decided to do ballady music until this last
> album.
> Hammett: I don't care what anyone says, I think Hammetts solos are just as
> good and kick just as much ass as before. Definitely in it for the music.
> Newstead: It sounds to me like he is still very humbled being in Metallica, and
> is still trying to prove himself to the fans and to the band. I don't think
> he yet considers himself part of the group. 
> Ulrich: Flame me if you want, but Lars has always struck me as a self-centered
> sell-out prick. Of all of them, he seems to be the only one that is embracing
> the main stream and MTV. He sounds like he wants Metallica to join Winger and
> Poison on the poser parade.
You hit the nail right on the head. 
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From: butterwo@cs.tulane.edu (Blake Butterworth)
Subject: Re: Not new fan, new Sandman theory. 
Reply-To: butterwo@cs.tulane.edu
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Tulane University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:01:02 GMT
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Subject: Re: Not new fan, new Sandman theory.
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    Dude, I can't seem to get stuff to alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica,
so could you send this to the list for me??? Thanks...

>    Lars does NOT use a drum machine.  I'm pretty sure he did use an electric
> drum set-up to achieve the massive kick drum sound on AJFA, but for that only.
> I've heard its hard to record the acoustics of regular kick drums in studio.
> So, he probably used the electrics on AJFA and the new album to get a better
> sound.  Listen to the kick drums on MOP, RTL, and KEA.  You can barely hear
> the bass drum, especially on MOP.
> 
> Blake
> 
> 

    Actually, that kick sound is a black Tama Granstar. It's gated pretty
heavy and compressed, then it's had shit EQ'ed out of it. But it is a 
real drum. As a matter of fact, while working on sounds for the new album,
Lars wasn't happy at all with the kick sound he was getting. He loved
his kick on AJFA (which, by the way, is now the only thing he likes
about that album) and wanted that again. So, he had the same drum flown
in on next day air so he could get that same sound. That's also why 
the double stuff that he did on "Metallica" has a real lop-sided sound to
it. They couldn't match the sound on the other kick. The rest of the drums
were Gretsch. He used a Ludwig Black Beauty snare drum. 


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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: v003nnc3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MR. BUNGLE)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Garage Days Re-revisited
Keywords: Where to look
Date: 3 Oct 92 19:13:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

You might be able to find it in a Columbia House catalog.  That's where I 
got mine.

later,
Phil Delyani
From: jks2x@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jason K. Schechner)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Sandman
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:23:13 GMT
Distribution: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <7613@monmouth.edu> c3088@moncol.monmouth.edu (CHRIS CANE) writes:
>In article <7594@monmouth.edu> c3088@moncol.monmouth.edu (CHRIS CANE) writes:
>>Who in your opinion is sandman?  where did they get that name from?
>>
>nothing like posting to your own post...
>
>what i am after is NOT loose interpretations- i am looking for
>someone who has heard from the horses mouth (james H.) why the
>name sandman and what it means literally, symbolically, or
>fictitiously.  i have an idea of who sandman is and where
>he got it from- i just want some more knowledgeabler metalli-
>head to confirm.  i know it's about crib death or some such 
>nightmarish childhood thing...
>:wq

	Looks like he uses vi, what do you all think?  Anyway... to
answer hi question:
	The Sandman has two (or more?) basic meanings:  one who brings
sleep and one who grants wishes while asleep.  Remember the song "Mr.
Sandman, bring me a dream"?  Real old song my parents listen to.  I'm
not sure where it originated, but the Sandman is basically the
incarnation of sleep and dreams.
	Is that more what you wanted?
>
>___________________________________________________________________
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>Beer Lover By Choice                       Computer User By Fortune

-Jason

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU (Periscope)
Subject: Re: New (somewhat) MetallicA fan
Reply-To: cosc17wj@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:15:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.Bv4xpq.B7r@acsu.buffalo.edu> kist@acsu.buffalo.edu writes:

>>	Actually, HELMET has one other album.  I am probably going to pick it
>>up tommorow.  MEANTIME is a really great fucking album, even if it is 36
>>minutes long.
>>
>>-Scope
>
>What is the name of their other album?  Any idea how it is?

******************************************************************************
The name of HELMET's first album is STRAP IT ON.  It is similar to MEANTIME in
a few ways, but has its own distinct sound.  It has pounding bass and drums,
and the guitar work just keeps driving your ears down.  Really cool stuff,
and I actually think it is just as good as MEANTIME.

Check it out.

-Scope
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
From: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Bass Soul
Date: 28 Sep 1992 00:21:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
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Does anyone have the guitar riff, TAB, music, for ``Bass Soul'' off of
Kill 'Em All?

Thanks
Richard Banks.
From: 00bjgood@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.metallica
Subject: Re: Metallica CD - "One Last Visit"
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:10:07 GMT

In article <009615CC.384A3F20@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 2760carpente@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
> In article <1992Sep29.150333.1@hmcvax.claremont.edu>, dwatanabe@hmcvax.claremont.edu writes:
>>Please help.....I found a Metallica CD entitled "One Last Visit."  It was put
>>out in 1990 by Metal Memory Records, made in the EEC.  The CD says that it has
>>recordings made in Metallica's garage in 1982 by the pre-Burton and Hammett
>>Metallica (i.e. the Metallica with Mustaine and McGovney).  It has 6 songs that
>>are on KEA, plus Mechanix, Killing Time, and Let It Loose.
>>     Does anyone out there know anything about this CD?  Is it worth anything? 
>>Rare or collectible?  If anyone has any information about this CD please post
>>or E-mail me.
>>
>>Thanks.
>>Dean Watanabe
>>DWATANABE@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU
> 
>    I have that particular CD. It's an import and I had to pay $30.00 for
> it but its a totally kick ass disc.  (Just like all their other albums)
> My band and I played a lot of those songs when we first started out.  
> Dave is a pretty good guitarist and I thought that the disc was worth
> every penny.... But than you're listining to the guy who paid $50.00 for 
> an orignal "No life till leather" tape.  If you are a fan of the band, I 
> think you should go for it.   The "Black" album has been flamed enough
> times by the "poser killers".  Come on , get off it.  I think it is a 
> great album..... Totally kick ass.. Listen to the depth of 'The Unforgiven',
> the attitude of 'Sad but true',  the melody and tenderness of 'Nothing else
> matters'.  Just listen to the song and try to understand the courage it 
> took to write a song like that.  James is AWESOME... Plus there a few
> skull-krushers tossed in for good luck..  Metallica did not set out to write
> Justice II.    
They should have. 
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