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From: jdickson@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jeff Dickson)
Subject: Re: Assembler programming.
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:44:09 GMT

In article <14419@mindlink.bc.ca> Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca (Charlie Gibbs) writes:
>In article <1676@grivel.une.edu.au> cfiddyme@neumann.une.edu.au
>(Chris Fiddyment) writes:
>
>>  Has anyone had a look at the disks brought out by the Amiga Coders Club.
>>  They are from England. I am a beggining assembler programmer and need some
>>  help compiling them with A68k.
>>   e.g.  This line gives the error:
>>           MOVE.L (a0,d0),d0
>>                   ^ Undefined symbol.
>
>     The displacement is missing and A68k is getting confused.
>The displacement is not optional on the 68000.  Some assemblers,
>however, default it to zero.  A68k does not.  Someday I might find
>the time to change this, but that will require a totally different
>behaviour than when generating code for the 68020 and higher; these
>processors allow you to omit the displacement from the generated
>machine code as well.
>
>     For now, change the line to this:
>
>           MOVE.L 0(a0,d0),d0
>
>This is guaranteed to work on any assembler.
>
>Charlie_Gibbs@mindlink.bc.ca
>I used to be indecisive, but now I'm not so sure.
>

	That's strange. I have a book on the 68000 (by Sybex I think) that
states that address indirect with index and address indirect with index and
displacement are two seperate addressing modes. This is news to me.

jeff
From: cheungc@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Carson Cheung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Amiga Coders Club Disks
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:06:48 GMT

Hi there !!!

Does anybody have any of the Amiga Coders Club Disks distributed in the
U.K. by Amiganuts United which they can e-mail me.
If so then e-mail me first to sort out which archiver to use etc.

Thanks

Carson Cheung
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
Subject: AMOS and SMUS
Reply-To: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 12:56:02 GMT


Has anyone gotten the SONIX/SMUS convertor to work??  If so, could you
give me step-by-step instructions on how to make it work?  Start from saving
the SMUS file.  I use DMCS.

Mike
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From: rkaivola@mits.mdata.fi (Risto Kaivola)
Subject: Re: Pascal for the Amiga
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:31:32 GMT

Originally, I wanted to know whether one can get a compiler with a
source-level debugger for the Pascal language.  I have now received
an affirmative answer.  There is a software vendor called HiSoft
(I don't have their address, sorry) that sells such a system.


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From: sirvine@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: WANTED: simple sound effects
Date: 17 Aug 92 10:32:23 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

Hi,

I'm looking for some source code (preferably C) for simple sound effects to
include in a game, sounds such as
		- lightning bolts
		- laser guns
		- energy beams
		- energy drainers
		- & a simple way to generate white noise

Ideally, I would like the sound samples/generators to be as short as possible,
I don't want anything longer than about 10K.

Please respond with e_mail to:

sirvine@waikato.ac.nz

Thanks in advance,
S. Irvine.
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From: dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley)
Subject: C 3D Library
Reply-To: dudley@cebaf4.cebaf.gov (John Dudley)
Organization: CEBAF
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:48:20 GMT


Does anyone have suggestions for a 3D graphics library (in C) for the
AMIGA? (preferably Public Domain
but commercial will do just as well!).  Right now I use something called
Starbase at work (on HP
unix machines)

Thanks!

------------------------------------------------
  //  John Dudley - Vertex Laboratories
\X/   Only AMIGA Makes It Possible!


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From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett)
Subject: MenuToFront utility
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:27:01 GMT

   Would it technically be possible to write a stable MenuToFront utility?  I
was thinking that it would be very nice to have a utility that would bring the
Workbench Tools menu to the frontmost screen, a lot like the Mac's "Apple"
menu except with the menu on the extreme rightmost side of the screen instead 
of the left.  Of course such a utility would suffer from many of the same 
problems that plague utilities that attempt to bring a clock to the frontmost
screen, in that the utility generating the menu would have to be very well
written to properly evacuate a closing screen or cause a crash, which is why
I am asking if it would be possible to do this in a stable manner.

   Of course, it would be even nicer to have this as part of the OS, but that
might risk litigation from Apple.

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From: widyono@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Daniel Widyono)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Pointer quirk
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:27:13 GMT
Organization: UPenn of Phila, PA: BioEngineering Dept.

Hmmm... as to the reason, it *might* have been a temporary solution to a
problem with the menu bar... or then, maybe not.  All IMHO.  I have no real
idea.  The top of the screen *is* rather special relative to the other sides...
if a screen is pulled down, intuition (right?) has to make special checks as
to whether the pointer is off the top screen or not, et al. with any other
layers of screens which might be partially displayed.  It also has the menu
bar (sans those utilties which stick the menu to the pointer).  Perhaps???

Inquisitively yours, Dan.
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From: kentd@FtCollins.NCR.com (Kent Dalton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: ToolMaker from CATS
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:03:57 GMT
Organization: NCR Microelectronics, Ft. Collins, CO
In-reply-to: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com's message of 11 Aug 92 18:08:14 GMT

>>>>> On 11 Aug 92 18:08:14 GMT, Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON) said:

Tony> Toolmaker is shipping(at least my copy arrived a few days ago).  It
Tony> is powerful tool for building 2.0 compatible interfaces.  I did read
Tony> the manual supplied, but only after creating a simple interface with
Tony> all sorts of gadgets.  The use is intuitive and easy to learn.  I do
Tony> wish there were more information on the 2.0 features(gadgets in particular)
Tony> but the manual does refer you to the RKM books....  

This sounds neat! The Amiga really needs such a tool! Is it available to
the general public, a la the includes/autodocs, or does one have to be a
registered developer to purchase this product?

Also, how much does it cost?

Along the same lines, does anyone know if the developers of PowerWindows
are upgrading it for 2.04 features/interfaces?

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From: rovero@oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: ARexx and shell commands (question)
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:47:45 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

Put the 'dir' and any other commands destined for AmigaDos (ie, any
non-ARexx commands) in single quotes.  Examples:

/* Testing commands to ARexx and to AmigaDOs shell */

'dir df0:'
result = open(infile,'test.data','R')
say result

/* run dw */
'dw'

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Subject: Re: Compiler flags
From: jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers)
Date: 15 Aug 92 11:29:22 PST
Organization: TAP, NZAmigaUG

Quoted from <1992Aug14.163104.24644@sci.kun.nl> by rhialto@cs.kun.nl (Olaf Seibert):
> In article <jbickers.0cdm@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:

> >    Lent out your manual, eh? There are a couple of pages in there
> >    somewhere about what all the switches are.
> 
> Not when you're trying to convert compilation options for another
> compiler to those for your own.

    Or if your dog ate your manual. :)

    Is that a generic excuse for not doing homework in nl, like it is
    here in nz?

> ___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert      B4f+-t-w--g+k+(+)svmrp+  rhialto@cs.kun.nl
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From: dryder@redorc.chi.il.us (Dave Ryder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: To learn
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:24:03 CDT
Organization: Red Oracle Bbs/Network

 I like to learn how to use the C program but I like use someone to teach me. I
use Amiga 2000 and it's hard to get some help these days. The reason I want use
the C program. I like to make a game and a demo or intro by using C. Can anyone
give me some source codes for doing a intro?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: keithc@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Keith Christopher)
Subject: Re: PROBLEMS WITH GADTOOLS
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:10:41 GMT


 I've been using GadToolsBox for a while now and I haven't run into that problem.
What ver are you using. 1.3 is the latest and you can get it from 
 
wuarchive.wustl.edu.

I like the program alot. ckeck the window structure for syntax.

Anyone > I setup a MsgPort routine that will refresh the window successfully. 
         The problem however arises when I try to use IDCMP_CLOSEWINDOW. I can't
         to get the system to close. I am using a:

  
while(1){

WaitPort(Wind1->UserPort);
 while(messg=GT_GetIMsg(Wind1->UserPort)){
   Class=messg->Class;
   GT_ReplyIMsg(messg);
  switch(Class){
    case IDCMP_CLOSEWINDOW:
      SeeYa(); /* Just closes libaries,window and screen. */
    break;
    }
   }
 }
exit(0);
}
 
As most can probably tell I'm new to Multitasking and ports/processes are
 strange to me. Anyhelp will be appreciated.

Also> Thanks for taking the edge off of windows and Gadgets Jan van den Baard!


keithc
From: chrisg@cbmvax.commodore.com (Chris Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Assembler programming.
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:19:48 GMT
Reply-To: chrisg@cbmvax.commodore.com (Chris Green)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1676@grivel.une.edu.au> cfiddyme@neumann.une.edu.au (Chris Fiddyment) writes:
>
>  Has anyone had a look at the disks brought out by the Amiga Coders Club.
>  They are from England. I am a beggining assembler programmer and need some
>  help compiling them with A68k.
>   e.g.  This line gives the error:
>           MOVE.L (a0,d0),d0
>                   ^ Undefined symbol.
	try MOVE.L 0(a0,d0),d0. Some assemblers are overly picky.
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From: xnybpf01@serss0.fiu.edu (Brian P Feeny)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Problems with A2386SX Bridgeboard. Please Help!!!!
Summary: HELP!
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:15:12 GMT
Organization: Florida International University, Miami


	I just got the Seka assembler and to test it out I was going
to compile the ever so simple helloworld.  However, after it got past
the initial comments (;hello world ;by me ; etc etc), I got an error on the first instruction!

1 BRA _START
   ^^^^

^^^^ <-- denotes highlighted portion

	_START IS defined later in the program. The error is
*** Illegal Operhand

	If I remove the underscore it will get past that part but then I get an
error when I do:

9 LVO.OPENLIBRARY EQU $FFFFFDD8

   ^^^

same error

	I am trying to compile hello.s on page 76 of COMPUTES MACHINE
LANGUAGE PROGRAMMING GUIDE.  Thanks.

					Brian

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From: monster@mbear.pub.uu.oz.au (Martin Ozolins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: ToolMaker from CATS
Date: 15 Aug 92 19:31:43 GMT
Organization: Bears Incorporated
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Aug12.084547.18843@syma.sussex.ac.uk> mpue2@syma.sussex.ac.uk (James E. Talbut) writes:
> In article <63842@cup.portal.com> Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON) writes:
> >Toolmaker is shipping(at least my copy arrived a few days ago).  It
> >is powerful tool for building 2.0 compatible interfaces.  I did read
> >the manual supplied, but only after creating a simple interface with
> >all sorts of gadgets.  The use is intuitive and easy to learn.  I do
> >wish there were more information on the 2.0 features(gadgets in particular)
> >but the manual does refer you to the RKM books....  
> 
> So how can an Englander get it?
> And how much does it cost?
> 

Or, how can someone in Australia get it ?
Is it only for Developers ?
How much is it ?
Is it similar to GadToolsBox or something that CBM were talking about a few
years back ( AppShell )

Is it a C only product or can you use it with Assembler ?

Please give more INFO :-)

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From: mortene@Lise.Unit.NO (Morten Eriksen)
Subject: Re: Program to generate COPPER LISTS wanted.
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 19:22:39 GMT

The program you are looking for was just released at some ftp-site (maybe
amiga.physik). I don't remember the name of the program, but the file was called
rge.lzh, I think. If you have no luck in locating this file, let me know, as I
have the program at home.

Morten
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Double buffering an Intuition window ?
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:57:41 GMT
Organization: Amiga makes it possible
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (beta) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <c8908461.713591809@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au> c8908461@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au (Robert Lang) writes:
> Has someone got some example source for double buffering an
> Intuition window from C ???
>
> I'm about to experiment with an idea myself, but further input would
> be great...what I'm going to do is make myself a rastport, draw into
> it, then swap it with the window's rastport....is this bad ?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Robert.
>

RTFM: ScrollVPort()

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From: ppessi@vipunen.hut.fi (Pekka Pessi)
Subject: GCC - How to debug a program using ixemlib?
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:07:21


	I have some problems trying to debug GNU GCC compiled programs
	using ixemlib. Is there some way to tell ixemlib that those
	nasty ILLEGALs are really breakpoints made by my debugger?
	Should I link with a libg.a, for instance? (Any hints how
	to get libg.a are approciated.)

	Currently I have patched _ixopen not to set tc_TrapCode, but
	it is quite a kluge. I have tried to RTFS but I have not found
	anything suitable.

	Also, what can I assume in atexit'ed function? Is stdio still
	working? Or unix compatible system calls? (I want to restore
	stdin to cooked mode and disable all RAW event reporting.) If
	I call restoring function before exit(), it works fine. If it
	is atexit()'ed, result is a meditation moment.

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From: dgilbert@aeshq.uucp (David Gilbert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: Re: Pointer quirk
Summary: I havn't found this, but it does dissappear.
Keywords: amiga programmer pointer overscan
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:06:56 GMT
	<1992Aug10.152847.13388@sagpd1> <1992Aug11.163022.15343@ichips.intel.com>
Organization: Environment Canada --- Atmostpheric Environment Service
In-reply-to: waggoner@omews7's message of 11 Aug 92 16:30:22 GMT

>>>>> On 11 Aug 92 16:30:22 GMT, waggoner@omews7 (Mark Waggoner) said:

Mark> In article <1992Aug10.152847.13388@sagpd1> monty@sagpd1.UUCP (Monty Saine) writes:
>	Well as I said before my hot spot is in the center ( my pointer
>    is a cross hair). The point is the hot spot should be the limiting 
>    factor on all edges not just the sides and bottom, I think consistity
>    is the word I am looking for. The hot spot should be able to be any
>    where on the lower edge and still function. My guess is that it is
>    just a simple logic change when the limits of the mouse sprite is
>    checked.

Mark> Do you have your overscan set out the the maximum amount?
Mark> Perhaps the sprite is not able to move above the start of the
Mark> video frame.  I don't recall if there is a hardware limit of
Mark> that sort or not.  It may be that when you checked out 1.3 that
Mark> the overscan was not set the same way.

	I have found that my pointer will dissappear when it's within
so many pixels of the right edge of the screen.  This only happens
when I have overscan --- which I almost always have.  I don't know much 
about hardware registers, but having a vague idea how sprites work,
I would expect that there are limit to where the sprites can appear.

Dave.

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From: caro@uni-paderborn.de (Carsten Rose)
Subject: Re: Serial Port Source
Organization: Uni-GH Paderborn
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:40:52 GMT

IO20197@MAINE.MAINE.EDU () writes:
: HI,
:      I'm very new at this so please bear with me.  I want to use C to open
: the serial port and send/receive data.  Is there somewhere I could pick up
: a source to initialize the port & send/receive bytes?
:                                                            Thanks
 A very simple is way is this solution:

#include <stdio.h>

char *text = "Only a stupid example";

main()
{
    FILE *fp;
    char buffer[256];

    if(!(fp=fopen("ser:","r+")))
    {
	perror("Couldn't open SER:");
	exit(1);
    }

    if(EOF==(fputs(text,fp)))
    {
	perror("writing to SER: failed");
        fclose(fp);
        exit(1);
    }

    if(!(fgets(buffer,256,fp)))
    {
	 perror("reading from SER: failed");
	 fclose(fp);
	 exit(1);
     }
     puts(buffer);

     fclose(fp);
     exit(0);
 }

 There are more efficient Functions for reading and writing data (fread,fwrite)
 but fputs(),fgets() are easy to use. The fopen() Function opens any File or
 Device. Depending on the second string: "r+" the file is opened for reading
 and/or writing:

	   r         open for reading

	   w         truncate or create for writing

	   a         append: open for writing at end of  file,  or
		     create for writing

	   r+        open for update (reading and writing)

	   w+        truncate or create for update

	   a+        append; open or create for update at EOF

 If you open "ser:" the system configuration, done in Preferences, is used.
 I'm not sure, alternative you can specify "ser:9600,8,N,1" to skip the 
 preferences. 

 Hope I could help.

 Ciao
	 Carsten

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From: rkaivola@mits.mdata.fi (Risto Kaivola)
Subject: Re: Is this legal assembly code?
Organization: Microdata International Telecomm Service, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:36:32 GMT

mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:

>Copy		lea	buffer1,a0
>		lea	buffer2,a1
>		move.w	#buffer2-buffer1,d0	; you better support this!
>.loop		move.b	(a0)+,(a1)+
>		dbra	d0,.loop
>		...

>buffer1		ds.b	size
>buffer2		ds.b	size

True.  We were discussing expressions in conditional assembly directives,
however.  For example,

                IFEQ buffer2-buffer1
buffer4         rts
buffer3         rts
                ENDC
                IFEQ buffer4-buffer3
buffer2
buffer1         rts
                ENDC

I would say that this is an erroneus construct, and if I were to support
forward references in the expressions of conditional assembly directives,
(or more accurately, the IFxx directives), I would have to include checks
for these kinds of things, or make them impossible via structural changes
in the assembler.  I'm not going to do that yet.


>Mike Schwartz  (ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)


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From: David_Cole@guru.pub.uu.oz.au (David Cole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: APIG libraries
Date: 11 Aug 92 10:15:08 GMT
Organization: Guru Meditation BBS

G'day all,

     I have just recieved APIG Arexx extension off FF_632 (I think), and in
order to get most of the examples running, I believe that you need the
following two libraries (amongst others):

     GadTools.library
     Utility.library

     Does anyone know where I can get these?  Are they on Fred Fish disks?

If anyone can tell me the whereabouts of these, I will be extremely
thankful!

Thanks in advance,

Dave


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From: bee@watarts.uwaterloo.ca (Bill E. Eickmeier)
Subject: moving Amiga code to a Mac
Originator: bee@watarts.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:00:00 GMT


I really don't expect to have much luck with this question, but there's
no harm in asking...

I need to move some graphics programs, written in Aztec C, from the
Amiga to a Mac. Has anyone written any routines for the Mac which are
basically equivalent to the Amiga graphics function calls?

I didn't write the original Amiga code, so something like this would be
a big timesaver.  I really don't expect someone has a library which I
could simply link to on the Mac, but anything to get me started is
greatly appreciated.

	Bill

Bill E. Eickmeier, bee@watarts.uwaterloo.ca  
Department of Psychology, University of Waterloo, Waterloo, Ontario, N2L 3G1  
room: PAS 1102   phone: 519-885-1211 x6638   fax: 519-746-8631

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