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From: wn9s@mimir.isp.nwu.edu (Albert Schmelzer)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How can I start amateur radio in USA ?
Summary: Licensing
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:41:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov11.174148.20843
Organization: ISP, Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois

> Hello netters !
> 
> As a foreign student, I would like to know wheather I can enjoy radio
> ham.  I was a member of HL0R(sogang university amateur radio club) in
> Seoul, Korea during 1982 - 1986.
> 
> So, I would like to know what kind of procedure do I need to follow,
> any association etc .
> Thanks in advance.
> 
 
Sooyong:

   I could have understood you differently than others on this group have.  If
you don't have a Korean license, I believe that you can get a US license.  There
should be no problem in doing so, as long as the test are passed.  Also, if you
do have a license, there is a proposal out (I don't think it is in effect yet)
in which any licensed foreign amateur (with proper documentation) can get a US
"reciprocal" license for 90 days.  The best place to ask for the answers to
these questions, of course, is the ARRL in Newington, CT.

I think that ehare@arrl.com takes care of those interested in attaining a
license here.

If I am wrong, forgive me...

Albert, WN9S

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Albert E. Schmelzer                     Northwestern University
9044 N. Keeler Avenue                   Integrated Science Program
Skokie, IL 60076-1604                   616 Noyes Street
                                        Evanston, IL 60208-4160
Amateur Radio: WN9S                     (708) 491-IOTA
InterNet:                                   
wn9s@isp.nwu.edu                        Packet:wn9s@n9hsi.#noril.il.usa.na
albert@cartan.math.nwu.edu              TCP/IP Gateway:wn9s@ke9yq.ampr.org
                                                 or    wn9s@ke9yq.imsa.edu
I can be found on 147.315Mhz on Tues nite or 147.360 Mhz at other times!
73's es 88's to YLs!!
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Albert E. Schmelzer                     Northwestern University
9044 N. Keeler Avenue                   Integrated Science Program
From: Warren_Tuiskula@vos.stratus.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Les amateurs francophones
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:07:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: transfer.9211112358.AA29016
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Hello,

Are there any patient French-speaking amateurs who would be willing to help
me improve my conversational skills on the air?  I would like to schedule
contacts for weekends, preferably 15 or 40 meters, SSB in any event.

If you'd like to schedule a QSO, please contact me directly at the address
below.

Thanks & 73,
Warren         KA1JL

warren_tuiskula@vos.stratus.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: andy@newton.cs.clemson.edu (Andrew J. Greenshields N3IGS)
Subject: Re: Usefulness of Morse Code (and MicroSats)
Organization: Clemson University Computer Science Dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:13:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.230522.11281@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> paulf@umunhum.stanford.edu (Paul Flaherty) writes:
>
>One argument in favor of the CW requirement is that it's much, much easier to
>build a machine that interprets CW than one that recognizes speech.
>
  That might be an argument in favour of CW, but it is not an argument
in favour of the CW requirement.  As has been said many times before,
there have been many arguments in favour of CW, but not one in favour
of requiring CW in order to be able to use the HF bands for voice and
other digital modes apart from CW.


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  Andrew J. Greenshields N3IGS    |  Some people can tell what time it is by
  andy@cs.clemson.edu             |  looking at the Sun, but I have never been
  [andy@cs.widener.edu]           |  able to make out the numbers.
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From: abelson@isaac.its.rpi.edu (KB2KYZ)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Icom IC-2410 and IC-3230 user query
Keywords: IC-2410   IC-3230
Date: 8 Nov 92 21:21:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: rpi.!am1bj#
Reply-To: abelson@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.

I have a question for any of you who use the 2410 or 3230 dual-band
mobile radio.  It is my understanding that one can remotely control
these radios via an HT through DTMF tones.  I know that they are both
capable of cross-band repeating.  My question is this:  Is is possible
to put either of these radios into cross-band repeat mode and ALSO have
remote DTMF control of the primary radio functions?

I am planning to get one of these rigs hopefully soon, and a neighbor/ham
has the 3230.  We have not been able to get the rig to stay in cross-band
repeat mode when attempting to control it remotely.  It keeps dropping out
of repeat mode when we do.  Is there some trick to "having our cake and
eating it too" on this one, or are we asking for the impossible.

Tips/suggestions/Mods from anyone on these radios are most welcome.

Tnx de mike.


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Mike Abelson - Information Technology Services ABELSON@RPI.EDU/GZNO@RPITSMTS
Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute               Amateur Radio: KB2KYZ 
Troy, New York 12180-3590
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: paulf@umunhum.stanford.edu (Paul Flaherty)
Subject: Re: Speaking of code...
Organization: The Three Packeteers
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:50:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov07.180746.20484@ssc.com> markz@ssc.com (Mark Zenier) writes:
>But 5 WPM morse only gets you the HF priviledges of running morse.

5 WPM gets you the low end of 10m, to do pretty much whatever you want.

--
-=Paul Flaherty, N9FZX/5W1JX  | "Just name a hero, and I'll prove he's a bum."
->paulf@Stanford.EDU          |  -- Col. Gregory "Pappy" Boyington, USMC (ret)
From: a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: UHF/70cm frequencies
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:37:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: ingate.9211120948.aa29818
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

A recommendation:

If you're waiting for you new licence then go buy a (or borrow from the 
library) a copy of the "ARRL  Operating Manual"(4th edition) and read 
it. This (and a little help from firendly amateurs) is guaranteed to 
bring you over the "newbee" hump. I'd also recommend it to OTs who 
might want to get involved with a newer technique (ATV, Packet, 
satellites and so  on). It even has a great opening chapter on SWLing! 
And for the diehard CW folks theres even a section on using procedural 
signs properly -- is that KN or K?

It also contains a lot of useful reference info, including band plans 
(the voluntary allocation of spectrum to each mode, except CW of coursw 
which is a special case!), maps, prefix lists ....

Finally, transmitting on 70cm is goverent by some extra rules. For 
details get a copy of Part 97 and read it -- its really not that bad! 
In certain sections of the US (the Canadian border and around some 
military bases you can't TX on 420 to 430).

Beware the weak signal operators too! They live around 432 (EME, 
terrestiral SSB) and around 435 is tha sattelite allocations. Weak 
signal folks get really annoyed when the FMers appear on their "empty 
channel". Check out the band plan and try to stick to it -- it really 
does maximise everybodies fun!

Finally, avoid FM in the 145.80 to 146.00 sub-band -- you may not hear 
them but there are satellit uplinks and downlinks there which FMers 
often can't hear.

There's a lot more to VHF/UHF than FM!

73 de Kevin Purcell N7WIM/G8UDP (Seattle, WA)          a-kevinp@microsoft.com
Do your interests match mine? If so call me. I'd like to hear from you.
QRP, Packet, TCP/IP, Digital voice, Macintosh, Spread Spectrum, Homebrew,
Satellites, Antenna design, Propagation, VHF/UHF weak signal, Microwave, QEX
From: WFAUST@NOMVS.LSUMC.EDU (Wm. Bryant Faust, IV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: thru the glass 2m antennas
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:04:00 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

I used the UHF versiona at one time with an HT.  Its performace
was only marginally better than using the rubber duck inside the
vehicle.  I beleive the model was 450.3G.  A higher gain mag-mount
would probably be your best bet.  The 151.3G performs about as well as
a quarter wave roof mount would.
Bryant
N5GWF
wfaust@nomvs.lsumc.edu
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HR-2600 Uniden mod?
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:37:46 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

I have the "Radio Tech Modifications Volume 4" book that discusses
a modification to the Uniden HR-2600.  The diagram in the book
does not match my radio.  (Pins 34&35 are not connected to ground.)
Does anyone have the correct modification?   Thanks.  (I do not
have access to ftp.)

73 DE KK6MY

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Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
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Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us (Sharon Machlis Gartenberg)
Subject: Re: Russian QSLs
Keywords: and oblasts
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 18:29:28 GMT

oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Derek Wills) writes:

>I don't think the Oblast awards are still being given, are they?  I was
>a few short of 100 confirmed when the changes happened in the USSR.  They
>didn't ask me first...   Now I have well over 100 confirmed but doubt that
>there is any point in sending a list of them to Box 88.

My sympathies. I was up to around 80, but have kind of given up on it.
I haven't heard anything recent about a 100-oblast award for the CIS.
I *did* hear that there was a new worked 100 *Russian* oblast award, but
believe QSOs were only good from 1992 +. I am *not* starting all over
again. ...

>Sorry if I gave people the impression that the bureau was still working
>for ex-USSR cards, I was really replying to someone who asked whether cards
>ever came from [Russia] via buro, and the answer is that they do, but the
>other part of the answer is that they might not do so in the future.

I have some new information about the bureau in *Belarus* after a long
chat with a ham in Minsk this morning. He said that cards being sent to
UC hams to the Belarus bureau in Minsk *are* being delivered to hams
there. UC cards that go to Box 88 in Moscow are somewhat questionable, since
the Russian bureau wants to charge a fairly steep per-card fee to deliver
them to Minsk, and the UC ham I spoke with questions whether any of those
will ever get to Minsk.

I assume (hope) ARRL is sending the UC cards to the bureau in Minsk, not
Moscow.

He said that hams there are not sending cards out via the bureau
because they are being charged a per-card fee that is just too expensive
in these very difficult economic times. "People just stopped QSL-ing," he
told me. The hams there are extremely frustrated. They petitioned the
postal authorities for a special rate to send out QSL cards so the bureau
didn't have to charge so much, but were refused.

The best solution at the moment seems to be getting a U.S. manager,
he said. For people who would like to be a manager, think they can
handle it, and are willing to incur the time (getting the logs from
the station you manage often has to be done on the air because of
mail problems, not to mention writing out cards) and expense (printing
up cards, etc.), now is probably the time to offer if you have a nice
chat with a ham in the CIS.

He also told me that there will be a meeting of Belarussian hams next
weekend, to try to start an amateur radio society of Belarus. One
proposal to be discussed is to issue 2 x 1 "Extra" call signs, such as
"EU1A." Such calls may begin appearing on the air next year, he said.
The hams there are not happy at the news they may be forced to change
their call signs because, I believe, Russia is looking for a lot of the
R and U prefixes.

73 and good DX, Sharon KC1YR 
-- 
Sharon Machlis Gartenberg
Framingham, MA  USA
email: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us   or   uunet!think.com!unixland!sharon
From: little@nuts2u.enet.dec.com (nuts2u::little)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: CB
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:31:42 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)

To suggest that limiting sales of radio equipment is going to keep
somebody from jamming is sort of like saying that limiting sales of
guns is going to stop killing.  Anyone with enough brains to be an
effective jammer and evade even simple RDFing is not going to be
stopped by such measures.  Police the bands as we've promised the FCC
we would and stop worrying about how jammers get their equipment. 

Besides, the worst jammers I've heard have been licensed hams!

73,
Todd
N9MWB
From: linnig@m2000.dseg.ti.com (Mike Linnig)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: World-map database needed
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:46:21 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments, Defense, Systems and Electronics Group.

There is a server on the internet that gives LAT/LONG information, elevation,
and population given a city name or zip code.

The help files indicate that it is possible to get the data base from the
author..

Data came primarily from the US Geological Survey and the US Postal Service.
Coverage includes all US cities, counties, and states, as well as some US
mountains, rivers, lakes, national parks, etc.  A few international cities
have also been included.


Try:   telnet martini.eecs.umich.edu 3000
                                     ^
                                     |
     DON'T FORGET THIS NUMBER--------+
     (This is not a normal telnet session)

... and you are connected...


 enter a zip code (or a complex expression, see below)

75002

        0 Allen
        1 48085 Collin
        2 TX Texas
        3 US United States
        F 45 Populated place
        L 33 06 11 N  96 40 13 W
        P 8314
        E 652
        Z 75002
To log off, type "bye".

Here is some info from the help files I found:
   - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
  Direct questions or comments to Tom Libert, libert@citi.umich.edu,
  or phone (313) 936-0827.  Please let me know if you write new clients.
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------
  Q. How can I get a copy of the raw server data?
  A. Send mail to info@comsol.com for information.

  Q. Who maintains the data?  What do I do if I find a mistake?
  A. The data are maintained by various government agencies, for
     the most part.  I don't have the resources to make corrections
     myself, but I can pass along mistakes to the ultimate maintenance
     agency.  I do plan to upgrade the data fairly soon (populations
     and ZIP codes are suffering from bit rot now, for example.)

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        -- Mike

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From: brewer@anarky.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Speaking of code...
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:55:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Marlboro, MA


In article <1992Nov08.201514.16895@ssc.com>, tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes...
> 
>It just amazes me....on here a few years ago there were lively discussions
>about the possibility of a no code license....the proponents SWORE that
>all they wanted was some entry level VHF/UHF only license that their
>brilliant PhD friends could get so that they could perfect high speed
>digital modes.  So now we HAVE a no code license.  And guess what?
>The complaining goes on....declaring the code requirement for some
>license classes as "hazing" or "arbitrary."  Incredible.

	Too true. 
	
	A part of the hobby that has been with it for
	75 years is being trashed as irrelevant in a mad
	quest to infuse the hobby with more handie-talkie
	buying warm bodies.  What's sadder, is that 
	the personal satisfaction of learning, studying
	and obtaining a license will be lost as we edge
	more toward giveaway licenses with appliance 
	radios.

	/john	

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      | John Brewer | Internet: brewer@anarky.enet.dec.com  |
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From: grier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: How can I start amateur radio in USA ?
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:14:56 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research

First try contacting the FCC and/or your embassy and inquire
about a reciprocal license, that is if you still have a Korean
Amateur Radio License.

Otherwise try and locate a ham club either at or near your University.
Any two General Class, or higher, hams can give you the Novice Class
test. This is comprised of simple theory, and a 5 word-per-minute 
morse code test. You can purchase a study guide from Radio-Shack.

Brian, WS1S
Bell Northern Research
Research Triangle Park, NC
bjgrier@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gcouger@olesun.okstate.edu (Gordon Couger)
Subject: Interference between cars and computers
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 02:01:30 GMT

I am compiling a database on interference between automotive computers,
automotive computer networks and mobile radio. I am interested in 
 problems in both directions.
I would prefer it in the following form.
Vehicle  model make year options causing trouble.
Frequency, power and as much detail about the radio installation as necessary to understand the problem
Nature of problem
How the problem was resolved 
Any comments you which to add.

This information will be compiled and made available to all.

Thanks
Gordon


Gordon Couger
AB5Dg   Agriculture Engineering Oklahoma State University
gcouger@olesun.agen.okstate.edu 405-744-6514 day 744-2794 evenings
From: grady@btr.BTR.COM (Grady Ward  grady@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: plz close the lid on my appliance
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:00:58 GMT
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. For info contact: info@BTR.COM


 Jeff Jones  (AB6MB)  writes, in part:

"'>...will be lost as we edge              
   >       more toward giveaway licenses with appliance      
   >       radios.'
                      
This has to be best arguement I have seen yet for keeping the code and  
not changing a thing in the hobby..."

-------------


What is an appliance to you is but a small component in a much
larger communication abstraction to me.

You can worry about bringing out the sheen of the grain in your
set of "talking drums"; I am  more interested in encapsulating
superior technology so that I can turn my amateur concerns to
a somewhat higher level: for example, digital signal processing,
automatic packet routing rules, connection of various
automatic digital servers to radios, and linked SETI.

In other words, don't mistake a lack of higher-level abstracting
ability with what "real hams " ought to do.

To me, being an amateur is more simply defined as "fellowship
through an interest in communications technology," not specifically
needing to learn the various component odors of an arcing tuner.

So of course I am an appliance operator; beating my clothes with
rocks is not the essence of cleanliness...

Grady KN6CP             140 days code-free!


-- 
Grady Ward  grady@btr.com  Moby Lexicons (707) 826-7715
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: VE's
From: clmorgan@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu
Date: 9 Nov 92 15:31:59 EST
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Nov4.174125.11880@news.columbia.edu>, baw2@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Bruce A Weisberg) writes:
> 	Could anybody help me find a place to take ham exams (gen. class)
> in the greater NYC area? I have wheels, can travel. Help!
> 	
> 	tnx
> 	Bruce 
> 	KA2TYX


Check this newsgroup for exam postings.  I've seen ARRL postings many times;
however, never a posting for any other VEC.

Another approach, if you have UHF or VHF capability, ask on the repeaters ...
someone is bound to know what is going on and where.  What about a local ham
shop?  Usually exam opportunities will be posted there as well.

You did say you have wheels and can travel?  On Wednesday, December 16, with
registration beginning at 6 pm, we will be administering exams in Middletown, 
Ohio.  That's a thought, especially if you'd like to see the Mid-West in 
December!


Good Luck!  Hope you find one close and are successful the first time!

	73 >< Carl
	   K8NHE
From: paul@n3eop.pgh.pa.us (paul)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.policy
Subject: Re: Why do we have license requirements?
Date: 4 Nov 92 12:40:47 GMT
Organization: CrossRoads in Elizabeth, PA

a-kevinp@microsoft.com (Kevin Purcell) writes:

> Hmmm, a little rambling, but you see the point: reducing both the difficulty
> of entry and the regulation of the Amateur service will have beneficial
> effects for all amateurs (excepting those who just chat on 14313).

  Does anyone "chat" on 14.313?  I thought that was the national 
transmitter test freq!
/a