From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: Re: Malaysia's racial policies
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
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Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:19:46 GMT

Herbie Husker (hykok@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
: This is the lamest escuse I'd ever heard.  Why help the people who don't
: help themself.  Ethic distribution is certainly most welcome, but if I am

Have you proof that they do not helf themselves? Have you ever heard the
phrase, the rich becomes richer?
: the manager, I'll hire the most qualified person to do the job, not because
: he is a bumiputra and I have to hire him/her because the government presssure
: me to do so.  However, I will never deprive non-bumis of a job if he/she is
: well qualified.  Giving them some assistance should be OK as long as it is
But you will deprive a bumi, won't you?
You make it sound as though there is no qualified bumis. In fact there are
so many cases where people of the same qualification cannot get jobs because
they are bumis. I've personal experience of this.
	The government 30% quota for executives is fair because of this
blatant practice, but this is applicable to big corporations. This does not
mean that the executives can be anyone, they must first meet the basic 
criteria. I've also met some lousy non-bumi executives in my dealings,
at least in my opinion.
	After all you are making your opinion as well.
: not too much.  NEP fail because the people doesn't want to help themself.
: Here's my 0.02 cents question.  Why throw money away when we can use it for
: a better cause?

Has it actually failed? It has succeeded in increasing the number of Malay
professionals, and number of successful businessmen. You say it has failed.
There are failures but that is part of any strategy. Any war must have 
casualties.
	The only failure is the failure to achieve the 30% target.
The reason has nothing to do with the methods, rather due to the restrictions.
The government should spend even more, and more forcefully enforce the laws,
if it were to achieve the desired rate.
	Since you asked for it, then you should have no objection to it
being increased, should you? Even though it will bleed the nation dry.

: 
: Yes there are ways besides the local university, but who is going to pay for
: the expense.  We all know getting into the local university saves us money.
: Going oversea to get a degree is certainly much, much more expensive unless
: you have someone to support you financially.  If the govenment can support
: the bumiputras, why not the non-bumiputras as well?

What makes you think that the government do not support the non-bumis as 
well? You have no proof whatsoever. Or rather you only belive your imagination.
Of course the government only help the people who really cannot afford to 
go. You are like a communist in demanding that the government support 
everybody. NO, ONLY deserving ones, that is those who cannot afford. The fact
that there are more non-bumis overseas students show that they can afford it
more than the bumis. Figures do not lie. You blatantly lie.
	Of course there are bumis who have to support themselves overseas,
if they can afford it, but you FAIL TO SEE IT COMPLETELY. This shows how
unreliable your statements are.

: 
: Some time ago, I hear that someone is suing a doctor in Malaysia because he
: uses a pen/pencil to inspect her.  This is certainly a no-no especially if
: he want to venture to this profession.  I would never to to a doctor like 
: this because I doubt if he will ever give me the correct medicine.  I do not
: querry his qualification but merely his attitute towards his patient.  If this
: has anything to do with his religion, then he might as well change his 
: profession.  I rest my case.

Same with me. I will never trust anyone who ignore facts, like you.

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
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