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From: mitch@seashell.seas.ucla.edu (Robert R. Mitchell (SEAS admin))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Attention Colorado Denizens!
Date: 3 Sep 92 03:27:37 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ace Manufacturing Company


My wife (who is neither uptight nor a bitch) is insisting that I give 
her some space for a few days and has ordered me to make a road trip.
(God, I love this woman!)

So, Colorado Denizens, be advised that yet another low-life from
California will soon be headed your way!  Let's get together and
drink some beer and swap some lies.  First round is on me.

I'm planning to leave on Saturday (9/5).  I don't have any real
itenerary yet, but I expect to be in the Denver area sometime
mid-week.  I also hope to see parts of Utah, Wyoming, Nebraska, and
Kansas.  The only "must see" on my list is Rocky Mtn. National
Park; other than that, I'm open to suggestions.  


--
DISCLAIMER:                                              | Bob Mitchell
"Don't blame _me_, _I_ didn't do it!" --Krusty the Clown | mitch@ea.ucla.edu
"Ididn'tdoitnobodysawmeyoucan'tproveanything!" --Bartman | DOD#[classified]
"Computers are ruining this country." --Al Bundy         | 1987 VT700c
From: sysop@elan.glassboro.edu (Ken Denton (Supervisor))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Test Rides
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:17:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: elan.sysop.161
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ

Here in southern New Jersey, the situation is about the same (no test rides,
insurance, blah blah), with a couple of exceptions:

	Deptford Honda/Yamaha has an Open House at least once a year when
	you can test ride some models (last year they had a Nighthawk 750
	and a Pacific Coast (hoo boy, my adrenalin is a-flowin)).

	RK BMW/Ducati (Deptford, NJ) actually encourages test rides of
	their Ducatis (don't know about the BMWs).  Drove over, threw a
	leg over a 907ie (where'd that kickstand go?) and heard 'Wanna
	take it out?'.  If I ever do get a BMW or Ducati, they will have
	my business.

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: paal-sb@hsr.no (Paal Steinar Berg)
Subject: Clutchless shifting
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:10:46 GMT

Does anyboby know if the gearbox on my RG250 can be damaged if i shift up without
using the cluch i.e just releasing the trottle? I can't hear any gear-grinding
sounds from the box when I have tried it.


Thanks

Paal
From: scooper@wappo.ucsc.edu (Scott Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Advice wanted on defending yourself in court
Keywords: law, courts
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:12:07 GMT
Organization: UC Santa Cruz CIS/CE
NNTP-Posting-Host: wappo.ucsc.edu

In article <1992Sep3.214959.959@infonode.ingr.com>, jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com (Jack Reed) writes:
|> Howdy all,
|> 
|> Concerning a subject that is near and dear to most of our hearts (our wallets),
|> I'm interested in starting a thread concerned with defending yourself in
|> court against speeding tickets. I'm scheduled to fight mine in late October and
|> would like to hear from others concerning dress (I don't have the legs for it
|> so that's out), demeanor, technique, books to consult, methods (such as how to
|> serve a subpoena on a trooper without getting shot), etc.
|> 

The best book that I've seen on the subject (although I didn't notice much
motorcycle-specific information) is called "Fight Your Ticket."  I forget the
authors' names, but it is published by Nolo Press, publisher of many do-it-yourself
law books.

As far as demeanor, be as nice as possible without being syrupy, all the way up to
the point where you realize it just ain't working.  For example, I ended up standing
up in court, after the judge had pronounced me guilty, and reading a section of the
California Vehicle Code which he had refused to look at on my request.  After he
heard it, he went to talk to another judge, came back, and reversed his judgement.

Demmand your right to due process!  Fight Your Ticket will tell you what those 
rights are.  If all else fails, appeal until they lose you in the shuffle! :)
I got five tickets in two years, starting 25 hours after getting my license on my
sixteenth birthday.  Only one point ever made it to my record, and it's gone now!

Scott Cooper - DoD #2469			'91 Honda Hawk (coming soon)
scooper@cse.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Carrying bicycle on a motorcycle
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:51:48 GMT

bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:

>I've had no trouble mounting a regular mountain bike on the back of
>my PD.  I'm sure there is a scanned photo around somewhere.  :-)

BMW_MTNBIKE.GIF @ cerritos.edu  :-)

>(I just knew that this topic would come up someday.  teeheehee)

Yea, but you never road-tested it, did you?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: lane splitting
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:34:08 GMT

bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.003646.1088@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>>While we are cursed with winter here, there are a lot fewer people than
>>in fornicalia, so we can spend our time riding twisties instead of lane
>    ^^^^^^^^^^

>Is it legal to say that in Utah?  I know it isn't in Georgia and some
>southern states.

No, it's not, but please don't turn me in.

>>splitting. :-) And we've got dirt riding areas you can only dream about.

>Here in Californication, it is required.  Just like paying 9.3 %
>personal income tax (that on top of your federal income tax of 28% and
>our 8.25 % sales tax and our new gas tax and...)...

>Hey Blaine, anymore room in Utah?

Yea, but there's a 5% entrance fee, though this can be waived by bribing
a resident with the Ducati of his choice.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: slappers
Keywords: wobbler
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:57:30 GMT

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:

>klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>>In <15260@suns1.crosfield.co.uk> gxw@crosfield.co.uk (garry wilmot) writes:

>>>Can someone please clarify what causes tank slappers and how
>>>to ride them out.

>>I've actually never had one but watched a few of my friends have theirs (high
>>power, modified geometry Triumphs) and don't beleive there is much anyone
>>can do. But feel free to experiment.

>I had one, and that was plenty. It was on the freeway at night on my
>then new '78 GS1000E. Just as I stuck my left hand up inside my full
>face helmet to push my glasses back up, I hit 2 or 3 large chuckholes on
>one of the Interstate bridges. The bike did a rapid & violent series of
>tankslappers, near full lock with the bike pitching wildly from side to
>side at first, and then it rapidly damped out. I didn't have time to do
>anything more than think "This is going to hurt when I hit the ground!"
>I'd just barely got my hand out of the helmet and was trying to get hold
>of the left grip when the bike sorted itself out. I'd dropped down from
>around 65 to 45 mph during this, and was quite content to putt along at
>45 for a few miles until the adrenaline wore off.

Pucker! =8{O

I think that the best one I ever was was at Sears point at a new
riders school. This guy was coming out ow what is referred to as 12.
(now there's a chicane there for AFM events) and he found a long arced
divet placed there by some thoughtful cage driver. His bike was going
lock to lock, and sliding the front wheel at the extriems. This
produced a series of arced marks on the track. No, he didn't pull it
out, he had a hot date with the wall on the far side of the
start/finish line. :{(


>Was it Eddie Lawson that recommended stopping tank slappers by lifting
>the front wheel? :-)

Nope, that was Kenny Roberts. Can you say cajones? I knew you could.

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'72 1000cc Sportster.....'Ol Sport               DoD # 055
^^^^^^^^^^^It *LIVES*!^^^^^^^^^^^^              AMA #524245
                                    Cool as a rule, but sometimes....
Two Jousts and a Gather, *BIG fun!*            (H. Lewis)
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Disclaimer: 3Com takes no responsibility for opinions preceding this.

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From: tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: riding clothes choices
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:14:44 GMT
Organization: Electric Armts Div, US Army ARDEC, Picatinny Arsenal, NJ

lrandall@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU writes:
>I can't believe it, but I *did* see it today: 
>
>One soon to be skinless squid wearing a full face helmet, t-shirt, shorts,
>and shower thongs.

Standard "equipment" around here... Unless you're a "Biker", in which
case you wear a t-shirt w/ leather vest (at least they wear jeans and
boots...).
-- 
 
                tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Has anyone noticed.........
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 03:31:55 GMT

laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>mention that an fj is a pig in the corners compared to the
>latest ZX/GSXR/CBR (and slow as a dog) and every fj rider yells

>they are fast in the twistys (NOT i have passed several on my R75/5).

What's this Laz, special relativity? You were so far behind Chuck, Buck,
and myself that you passed us? As I recall you were cussing your
spaghetti frame and rubber-band engine when you'd catch up at stops. :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: outstanding MC parking (wuz Re: Motorcyclists get a break.)
Date: 27 Aug 1992 17:21:59 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <JET.92Aug27120021@win30.nas.nasa.gov> jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>I don't even own a car...  But I might buy a rat truck to make
>moving/shopping easier once I get the R100R tricked out...

I don't own a car either.  (My VW is non-functional and hasn't been used
this year.)

I'm curious about what people ride when riding is the only choice.
So, if you don't own a car, tell us what you ride.

(I'd almost, but not quite, be willing to bet that BMWs make up a very
large percentage of this list.)

-
-John H. Osborn
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu
-DOD# 2001  '92 BMW Paris-Dakar


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: Programmers Who Say Ni
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:54:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.163902.16445@ncsu.edu> steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier) writes:
+In article <78843@ut-emx.uucp> captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin) writes:
+>BTW, a question for all you etiologists.  What is the TRUE origin of the
+>word "scumbag"?
+
+I'm not absolutely sure about the etiology, ...

I hate to be known as the news group grammarian, but for the record,
the word you are looking for is etymology/etymologists.  This is not to
be confused with entomology, which is the study of insects.

____________________________________________________________________________
	You're never too old to become younger -- Mae West
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Date: 1 Sep 92 03:03:51 GMT
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <1992Aug31.191447.21323@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.211927.391@halfdome.sf.ca.us> laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
>[...]
>>well, this is where our opinions differ. i don't think "keeping up"
>>is the issue.  for me it's having enough power [... etc.]
>
>Wow.  What a change of the normal roles:  me, a hard-core moto dude
>arguing with a short woman rider that small bikes are ok.  Shouldn't
>we switch our positions before the universe implodes? :-)

Er ... I'm not sure why you assume that Laurie is NOT a "hard-core
moto <female equivalent of 'dude'>."  To what "normal roles" were
you referring?

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karl@hsr.no (Karl Martin Lund)
Subject: Average lifetime/Re: What i ride
Keywords: lifetime
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 11:50:41 GMT

Average lifetime.

I have a Honda VF750F '83. It's now passed 65000 km
(= ca 40000 miles?). At present time it shows no signs
of beeing _too_ old, exept some oil usage and some squiky
sounds (from the wind-screen or whatever it's called in
English). As a student, I'm planning to keep this bike at
least a couple of years from now. I ride about 10000 km a year.

This is the reason why I've started wondering about _mean_
time before breakdown for bikes. What part dies first, and
when? Any of you have any comments?


Re: What I ride.

I don't own a car. (My parents do, why should I? :-). The
VF is mostly used for one-day trips, but also some commuting.
(When I was in the army, I "commuted" 400 km, not very often,
though.) I find it very comfortable, and I love it's tourqe.
I guess my next bike will be a VFR750, and the one after that
a ZZR1100 or something similar.

------------------------------------------------------------
|   Karl Martin Lund   |   No DoD#    | The feeling`s back |
|                      |              | and you just can`t |
| karl@johanna4.hsr.no | Honda VF750F |  stop it!    (ST)  |
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From: dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Foul Language (Was: riding clothes choices)
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:05:44 GMT
Followup-To: misc.test
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <1992Sep3.142858.13224@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> shz@garage.att.com (Keeper of the 'Tude) writes:
>JK>   Suck me off Cock Breath.
>
>I use this type of language just as much as the next person (just ask
>the cager that filed the abusive language complaint against me) but
>*THIS HAS NO PLACE IN A WIDELY DISTRIBUTED NEWSGROUP*!!!   Posting here

Now is this flame bait or what?
-- 
I love the 3b2
The 3b2 is my friend.
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: riding clothes choices
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:39:54 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Wednesday September 02 1992 17:54, Jorg Klinger wrote to All:

 JK>   Suck me off Cock Breath.
 JK>               XXXOOO
 JK>                     Jorg

Jorg, I don't mind if you are homosexual, thats your business. But kindly
stick to your own kind. And please try to post something somewhat more
intelligent and contributory than a gay come-on, ok? ;-)

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Speaking of triple A....
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:28:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: adpplz.1545
Distribution: na
Organization: ADP Dealer Services R&D, Portland, OR

aki@atlas.worldbank.org (aki) writes:

: Just curious...if you are a AAA member and your
: bike dies, will they provide tow service? 

AAA treats Evil Motorcycles like we were nothing but Winnebago scum.
IE, there's an extra charge (20 or so bucks), which covers RV's and
motorcycles. Being the cautious type, my wife bought the protection
before we went to the Joust. Being the careless type, I needed it on
the way back from my last Duc-trucking trip to the Bay area.
So I don't know how well they tow motorcycles, but I can recommend
it for Mazda pickups with no electrical system.


: I mean
: will they bring a tow truck out (the flatbed type)
: and pick up your bike? 

The rest of the stuff is covered, and I'm sure they'd offer you some sorta
tow, but they never actually mention "flatbed" in the brochure. I expect it's
a matter of great luck. On the other hand, they have the best maps in the
whole world.


          Martin Golding             |  When you see somebody riding stupid,
DoD #236  BMWMOA #55952  WMTC #0002  |   it's silly to worry about their pants.
[motcsd!]mcspdx!adpgate!martin
From: Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: test post
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:47:12 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Aero. & Mech. Eng.
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6CB9E937B01401C@rswift.aero.nd.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:50:59 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9

In article <Bu0CJD.5DM@apollo.hp.com> Peter Brady, brady_p@apollo.hp.com
writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.152727.419@halfdome.sf.ca.us> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us
(bob 
>pasker) writes:
>>
>>q: what is the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?
>>a: one is a scum-sucking bottom dweller and the other one is a fish:-)
>>
>One good (re)tort deserves another:
>
>q: What are 5,000 lawyers at the bottom of Boston Harbor called?
>a: A good start. :-)
>
>Love those test posts...
>
>--pete

Here's another for ya..

q: What does it mean when you see three lawyers buried up to their necks
in cement?
a: Someone ran out of cement.

Rich Swift, DoD #3030       "The edified biker
From: klf@druwa.ATT.COM (FranklinKL)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Helmet Laws and Jana Mendez
Keywords: It's nearly November, get out the vote!
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:46:34 GMT
Distribution: rec

Many of you Denizens will remember a year or so back when I had an
exchange of letters with Colorado State Senator Jana Mendez over
her support of mandatory helmet legislation.  For those of you
who don't know Jana, she is a leading (possible THE leading)
proponent of helmet legislation in the Colorado Senate.
She has introduced the last couple of attempts at a helmet bill
and she doesn't want to hear ANY data that doesn't support her position.
She represents a fair portion of Boulder County although I'm not
sure of the exact boundaries of her district.

The bottom line, though is - SHE'S UP FOR RE-ELECTION IN NOVEMBER!!!
Colorado Denizens - rally 'round.  Find out if she represents you
and let's get her into another line of work.

I'm posting this to the net in general as a sort of reminder that
election time is drawing near.  All Denizens, nay ALL MOTORCYCLISTS,
should be examining the candidates.  It's an opportunity to get rid of
the ones unfriendly to motorcycling.  If you don't know what your
candidates positions are, contact your local chapter of ABATE and
see if they can help you.

Remember - VOTE EARLY, VOTE OFTEN!!!!!

I wonder if our resident Denizen expert in the political wars,
Kevin Malloy, could offer us any hints that would assist in
getting these folks out.


--
Ken Franklin 	They say there's a heaven for people who wait
AMA     	And some say it's better but I say it ain't
GWRRA           I'd rather laugh with the sinners than cry with the saints
DoD #0126       The sinners are lots more fun, Y'know only the good die young
From: johnny@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu (Johnny Roberts)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: SEX!   RZ350 info request......
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:20:15 GMT
Organization: Univ of Texas at San Antonio


	Well, "SEX!" usually gets my attention ;-)

	I am considering a second bike, more specifically a Yamaha RZ350.  
Can any current or previous owners out there please give me more  
information on this bike? The idea of a sporty little two-stroke appeals  
to me greatly, as I have a taste for the slightly unusual, as well as the  
speedy. 

	Some of my questions are:
	1. What is the going rate for one of these bikes ( ball park )?
	2. Are parts about the same price as for most other bikes?
	3. I am assuming there are lots of high-perf parts available, yes?
	4. Are there any good cycle mag. articles on this bike?

	Thanks in advance....

	John Roberts
	johnny@ennex1.eng.utsa.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: L629159@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Re: ba.motorcycles, anyone?
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 20:20:44 GMT

ba.motorcycles?

  I'm in favor --

A. Moore