From: marki@well.sf.ca.us (Mark L. Isikoff)
Subject: Can't use SIMTEL, HELP!!
Keywords: simtel
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 20:36:15 GMT


Hi all,

I have this problem I can't figure out...

Everytime I send mail (no Subject, only "help" in body) to the 
SIMTEL server at listserv@vm1.nodak.edu I get informed I've got 
a problem with the "From:" line in the mailheader.
I get this mail in return (see further down)

Now, I did get the "help" I requested at the end of this bounced
mess but I want to request files from SIMTEL and don't want them
bouncing all around.

Here is a portion of my static file 

node         : preimg%tct.UUCP
alias        : preimg.UUCP
uucpname     : preimg

Is there something wrong here?

Thanks for any insight you can provide. Please email to ms%preimg@tct.com
and I'll post a summary if there are many responses...

Mark



> From tct!myrddin!VM1.NoDak.EDU!INFO Fri Aug 14 19:14:56 1992 remote from preimg
> Received: by preimg%tct.UUCP (1.64/waf)
> 	via UUCP; Sat, 15 Aug 92 16:12:11 EDT
> 	for ms
> Received: from myrddin by tct.com with uucp
> 	(Smail3.1.26.5 #9) id m0mJAr9-0000YDC; Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:14 EDT
> Received: by myrddin.sybus.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.3)
> 	id <m0mJ91N-0001CVC@myrddin.sybus.com>; Fri, 14 Aug 92 17:17 EDT
> Resent-Message-Id: <m0mJ91N-0001CVC@myrddin.sybus.com>
> Received: from NDSUVM1.BITNET by VM1.NoDak.EDU (IBM VM SMTP V2R2)
>    with BSMTP id 2391; Fri, 14 Aug 92 16:16:40 CDT
> Received: from NDSUVM1 (INFO) by NDSUVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP id
>  6381; Fri, 14 Aug 92 16:16:38 CDT
> Resent-Date:  Fri, 14 Aug 92 16:16:30 CDT
> Resent-From:  ND HECN E-mail Postmaster <INFO@VM1.NoDak.EDU>
> Resent-Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network
> Resent-To:    tct!preimg!ms@myrddin.sybus.com,
>               postmaster@myrddin.sybus.com
> Resent-Reply-To: ND HECN Postmaster <info@VM1.NoDak.EDU>
> Received: by NDSUVM1 (Mailer R2.07) id 6734; Fri, 14 Aug 92 07:37:30 CDT
> Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:37:29 -0500
> From:         Revised List Processor (1.7c) <LISTSERV@VM1.NoDak.EDU>
> Subject:      Delivery error notice sent to LISTSERV
> To:           E-Mail Postmaster <INFO@VM1.NoDak.EDU>
> X-LSV-ListID: None
> 
> 
>    This mail was apparently bounced due to LISTSERV not finding a
> usable return path in the "From:" header field.  Since LISTSERV is a
> server it uses only the address portion of the From: field to identify
> the requestor and return information.  Any RFC822 source routes in
> the From: address (eg. <@foo.bar.edu:...> are IGNORED.  But % hacks
> (userid%host@foo.bar.edu) will be used.
> 
>    We are trying to return it via some alternate guessed path(s).  You
> might try using a DIFFERENT mail gateway.   Some examples:
>      Internet:    LISTSERV@VM1.NoDak.EDU
>      BITNET:      LISTSERV@NDSUVM1
>      UUCP:    ...!uunet!plains.nodak.edu!vm1.nodak.edu!listserv
>           or  ...!uunet!bitnet!ndsuvm1!listserv
> 
>    You should also ensure that some system isn't sensitive to the "case"
> (ie. upper/lower case) of the host name or any part of the domain name.
> 
>    If you are using the "GET" command, you may be able to circumvent
> this problem by using the GIVE command:
>        GIVE filename filetype user@some.host
> will send the file named to "user@some.host".
> 
>    Please let us know if you have any questions.  Thanks!
> 
> 
>    ND HECN E-mail Postmaster    INFO@VM1.NoDak.EDU  INFO@NDSUVM1.Bitnet
>                                 (701)-237-8639
> 
> ----------------------------Original message----------------------------
> The enclosed  mail file, found in  the LISTSERV reader and  shown under the
> spoolid 4996 in the console log, has been identified as a possible delivery
> error notice  for the following  reason: mail subject indicates  a delivery
> problem.
> 
> ------------------------ Message in error (107 lines) -------------------------
> Received: from PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU by NDSUVM1.BITNET (Mailer R2.07) with BSMTP
>  id 6732; Fri, 14 Aug 92 07:37:26 CDT
> Received: from PUCC by PUCC.PRINCETON.EDU (Mailer R2.08 ptf039) with BSMTP id
>  4791; Fri, 14 Aug 92 08:37:23 EDT
> Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 08:37:19 EDT
> From: <SMTP@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
> To: <LISTSERV@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
> Subject: Undeliverable Mail
> 
> Unable to deliver mail to some/all recipients.
> 050 RCPT TO:<@UUNET.UU.NET:ms@PREIMG%TCT.UUCP>
> 501 Syntax Error. Unexpected Token '%'
> 
>            ** Text of Mail follows **
> HELO UUCPGATE.PRINCETON.EDU
> TICK 0042
> MAIL FROM:<LISTSERV@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
> RCPT TO:<@UUNET.UU.NET:ms@PREIMG%TCT.UUCP>
> DATA
> Received: from NDSUVM1.BITNET by UUCPGATE.PRINCETON.EDU (Mailer R2.08 ptf039)
>  with BSMTP id 0042; Fri, 14 Aug 92 08:37:18 EDT
> Received: by NDSUVM1 (Mailer R2.07) id 6712; Fri, 14 Aug 92 07:36:44 CDT
> Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:36:39 -0500
> From:         Revised List Processor (1.7c) <LISTSERV@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
> Subject:      Output of your job "ms"
> To:           ms@PREIMG%TCT.UUCP
> 
> > help
> 
> Revised LISTSERV version 1.7c -- most commonly used commands
> 
> Info      <topic|?>              Get detailed information files
> List      <Detail|Short|Global>  Get a description of all lists
> SUBscribe listname <full_name>   Subscribe to a list
> SIGNOFF   listname               Sign off from a list
> SIGNOFF   * (NETWIDE             - from all lists on all servers
> REView    listname <options>     Review a list
> STats     listname <options>     Review list statistics
> Query     listname               Query personal distribution options
> SET       listname  options      Set personal distribution options
> INDex     <filelist_name>        Obtain a list of LISTSERV files
> GET       filename filetype      Obtain a file from LISTSERV
> REGister  full_name|OFF          Tell LISTSERV about your name
> 
> There are more commands (AFD, FUI, PW, etc). Send an INFO REFCARD
> for a complete reference card,  or INFO ? for a list of available
> documentation files.
> 
> The following local commands are available at this installation:
> 
>                                --- Brief File List ---
> /FILES filelist                Lists each filename, filetype, title,
>                                date, and GET permission.  One line
>                                of 79 bytes per line per file.
> 
>                                --- Alternate Format INDEX Output ---
> /FILES80 filelist              Similar to the INDEX command but
>                                /files80 reformats the output to fit
>                                in lines of less than 80 characters.
>                                This is especially useful via mail.
>                                Eg.   /files80 listserv
> 
>                                --- Mail Forwarding ---
> /FORWARD new-address           Activates mail forwarding
>                                Use 'RESET' to deactivate or 'QUERY' to
>                                check current setting
> 
>                                --- TRICKLE Server for SIMTEL20 files ---
>                                For details send LISTSERV   GET PDGET INFO
> /PDGET <format> filename < ( option>   Requests files from the Simtel20
>                                archives.  Format may be NETDATA, PUNCH
>                                or MAIL.  Option may be UUENCODE, OLDUUE,
>                                XXENCODE, or TRANSLATE. (Updated 12/21/89)
> 
> /PDDIR filepattern             Requests directory listings of the
>                                Simtel20 archives.
>                                /PDDIR PD:<archive>  will list known
>                                subdirectories (eg. /PDDIR PD:<MSDOS> ).
>                                You can also add the number of days old
>                                a file can be and still be considered.
>                                /PDDIR filepattern 30   is the default.
> 
>                                --- LISTSERV Topology Query ---
> /Nearest node <(options<<(>>>  Find the nearest LISTSERV to a specified
>                                node.
>            Options: Distance - causes the distance from your node to
>                                target node to be stated.  This is the
>                                default.
>                     NODistan - does not cause the distance to be stated.
>                     Prefer   - Allows you to specify a prefered node.
>                     Backbone - will only search for the nearest server
>                                on the backbone.
>                     NOWeight - does not take link weights into account
>                                when considering distances.  WEIGHT is
>                                the default.
> 
> Postmasters are:
>  E-Mail Postmaster <INFO@NDSUVM1>
> 
> 
> Summary of resource utilization
> -------------------------------
>  CPU time:        0.027 sec                Device I/O:     4
>  Overhead CPU:    0.007 sec                Paging I/O:     0
>  CPU model:        9121                    DASD model:  3380
> .
> QUIT