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From: haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch (Konrad Haedener)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm,comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: elm2.4, AIX
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:21:52 GMT
Reply-To: haedener@iacrs1.unibe.ch
Organization: University of Berne

In article <1992Oct7.203453.15808@newssrv.edvz.univie.ac.at>, tom@bim.itc.univie.ac.at (Tom Kovar) writes:
|> ronald@lowt.phys.tue.nl (Ronald Aarts) writes:
|> : I'm having a small problem with elm 2.4 on Aix 3.2.1 on a RS/6000.
|> : I got the sources from ftp.itc.univie.ac.at and the patches from 
|> : Konrad Haedener.
|> : I compiled elm with "bsdcc", but the problem is that my "timezone" looks

    Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:28:19 +22306404 (MET)

|>   I compiled my sources (ftp.itc.univie.ac.at) with the standard cc, not bsdcc;
|> I do not want to take over any guarantee for all these untraceable defines
|> and undefines and all these matters in bsdcc... :-)
|> 
|>   Try it, maybe it solves your problem.
|> 								Tom

The reason I used bsdcc is the hint I found in README suggesting to use
this compiler environment under AIX; I assumed that the members of the
2.4 PL0 test group using RS/6000s had actually also used bsdcc. Well,
they obviously haven't, and in that sense I find the recommendation in
README misleading. According to Tom you seem to be better off with cc
under AIX, and I would like to suggest that this section of README be
changed (mention `cc', `-U__STR__', `-lcurses instead of -ltermcap').

For bsdcc, you need one addtitional patch to solve the problem discussed
above (this one had escaped my attention):

*** lib/getarpdate.c	Sat Oct  3 23:42:24 1992
--- lib/getarpdate.c	Thu Oct  8 11:20:08 1992
***************
*** 73,79 ****
  	long       tzmin;		/* number of minutes off gmt 	 */
  	char	  *tzsign;		/* + or - gmt 			 */
  
! #ifdef BSD
  # ifndef TZ_MINUTESWEST
  	struct timeb	loc_time;
  
--- 73,79 ----
  	long       tzmin;		/* number of minutes off gmt 	 */
  	char	  *tzsign;		/* + or - gmt 			 */
  
! #ifdef _BSD
  # ifndef TZ_MINUTESWEST
  	struct timeb	loc_time;
  
***************
*** 99,105 ****
  	the_time = localtime(&junk);
  	if (the_time->tm_year < 100)
  		the_time->tm_year += 1900;
! #ifdef BSD
  # ifdef TZ_MINUTESWEST
  	if (the_time->tm_isdst && time_zone.tz_dsttime != DST_NONE)
  		tzmin = - (time_zone.tz_minuteswest - 60);
--- 99,105 ----
  	the_time = localtime(&junk);
  	if (the_time->tm_year < 100)
  		the_time->tm_year += 1900;
! #ifdef _BSD
  # ifdef TZ_MINUTESWEST
  	if (the_time->tm_isdst && time_zone.tz_dsttime != DST_NONE)
  		tzmin = - (time_zone.tz_minuteswest - 60);

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From: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Fixed: ELM 2.4 - no signatures ; no descriptions in elmrc though.
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:09:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvtsBw.3C5
Reply-To: jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

becker@med-in.uni-sb.de.med-in.uni-sb.de writes
> Elm doesn't include the signature files in the outgoing mail and
> asks everytime: i to return to index screen after the pager has done his 
> work.

In your elmrc, add this line:

signature = ~/.signature

It should be in there (in the default elmrc provided for you) but it is not.  I  
think that is a bug, but an easy one to fix.

On the same note, why aren't there descriptions anymore for the lines in the  
elmrc?  The file elmrc-info exists and is fully readable by all who run elm,  
however on the automatic creation of someone's elmrc (a first-time elm user)  
only the variable lines are stuck in there.
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-- NeXTmail ok
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From: dan@igate.c-mols.siu.edu (Dan Ellison)
Subject: elm2.4PL2 under SCO UNIX 3.2.2 results
Organization: Southern Illinois University - Carbondale, IL (SIU-C)
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:52:42 GMT

Elm 2.4 PL2 compiled on my i486 SCO 3.2.2 system with the following
small problems:

	1) the strstr.c function declaration doesn't match the
	   prototype declaration in the header files from SCO.
	   The offending ommision is the lack of the const keyword
	   in the declaration.  Adding #ifdef M_UNIX ... #endif
	   with the const keyword takes care of the complaint.

	2) for some reason that I haven't determined yet, the Configure
	   script doesn't correctly determine that the correct signal
	   blocking mechanism for SCO is to use sigprocmask.  I took
	   care of it by simply placing a -DHASSIGPROCMASK in the
	   src/Makefile.  Maybe the Configure test needs to be
	   adjusted slightly to accomodate SCO.

Other than these two small problems everything appears to be fine.  I
have installed the package and will monitor its behavior.  Thanks to
the elm2.4 dev team!

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From: meachem@acsu.buffalo.edu (The Meach)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: erase problems using while using elm
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:28:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.Bw2x09.Hss
Organization: UB

In article <1992Oct13.203548.3254@b30.ingr.com> "Ravi Parthasarathy <ravi@blore.b30.ingr.COM>" writes:
>I am using elm on a sparc2 in the following environment..
>solaris 2.0
>openwindows 3.0
>openwin/bin/xterm
>
>and the command 
>>>stty -a     .. ..gives
>intr = ^c; quit = ^|; erase = ^?; kill = ^u;
[. . .]                ^^^^^^^^^^  ^^^^^^^^^ 
>rprnt = ^r; flush = ^o; werase = ^w; lnext = ^v;
[. . .]                  ^^^^^^^^^^^

>I am not able to delete any characters using the delete or back space keys
>in elm. 
>for eg. in elm 
>
>Command: Mail
>Send the message to: xyz
>
>i cannot delete the the characters xyz. using delete or back space.
>It only results in a beep.
>
>Could some one out there help me fix this problem.

Well. . . looking at your readout. . .

^? (<ctrl>-?) will erase a single character at a time

^u will erase the entire 'xyz'

^w will do the same for a single address, or if you are using a series of
addresses or aliases, this will erase one at a time.

You can either learn to use these keystrokes, or redefine them for yourself.
But before you do something like that, it would be wise to make sure that it
won't come into conflict with something else you may want to use at another
time.

Jo Meachem
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From: shyamal@seas.smu.edu (Shyamal Prasad)
Subject: Moving the current mssg pointer
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Distribution: us
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:51:33 GMT

Hi,

I just started using elm ( I used mail/mailx earlier). The one
thing is I simply have not been able to fix is :

	How do I get elm to move to the next message in
	my folder whenever I touch the current message  
	(specially when I read a message).

I tried changing the resolve option...it did not *seem* to work.
Would appreciate any help - please email!

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Dallas	TX 75205
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From: olsonkk@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Kirk Olson)
Subject: Help on compiling ELM 2.4 on IBM RT... Please
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 06:37:26 GMT

I am trying to compile elm 2.4 on an IBM RT running AIX 2.2.1.  I run
the configure file, and then when I run the make at the $ prompt it gets
an error code 1 right away, and quits.  Anyone have the same problem and
conquered it?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Please reply to:  olsonkir@mainrt.luther.uni.edu

-- 
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olsonkk@ucsu.colorado.edu
olsonkir@luther.uni.edu
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From: shyamal@seas.smu.edu (Shyamal Prasad)
Subject: Auto moving the current message
Organization: SMU School Of Engineering and Applied Science
Distribution: us
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:23:14 GMT


I just started using elm, and the thing that I can't stand is that
I cannot get elm to move to the next message after I have read the
current one (or, for that matter, deleted or otherwise touched it).

I tried using the resolve option but it did *not* change anything,
I even tried to change the pager....

Would appreciate any help. Reply by email preferably.
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3216 Apt#1 Daniel Avenue 			(214) 360 9051
Dallas	TX 75205
	DEPT. OF COMPUTER SCIENCE - SOUTHERN METHODIST UNIVERISTY
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: donath@math.uiowa.edu (Matt Donath)
Subject: alias current message won't work
Originator: donath@oak.math.uiowa.edu
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:43:15 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Keywords: AIX, elm 2.4, alias


When I choose a)lias current message under the alias menu try to add
the current message to the alias list, I get "Messages addressed as
(<Full name of person I'm trying to alias>), X is not a valid message
number."  It then adds the alias with a blank address line.  What is
wrong here?  The reply command works fine, so I know that the return
address is valid.  I've never had this problem under previous versions
of elm.  Is there something in the configuration that controls this?

Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: syd@DSI.COM (Syd Weinstein)
Subject: Re: elm 2.4 and xterm
Reply-To: syd@DSI.COM
Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc.  Huntingdon Valley, PA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:20:10 GMT

jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd) writes:
>I ALSO don't like the screen to clear when I exit.
Here we have a fundamental concept problem.
Elm switched to using ti/te because many terminal emulators
required it (not the least of which is the OpenLook cmdtool.

Some terminal emulators clear the screen on te. (Some Xterms)

Unless you totally turn off ti/te, or provide a run time option
to Elm (or elmrc option to elm) to not use ti/te at all, these
two are in fundamental conflict.

It always seems there is one feature of each release that people
think is in fundamental conflict :-)
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From: plarkin@iphase.com (Patrick Larkin)
Subject: Re: how to use filter prog?
Originator: plarkin@coolcat
Organization: Interphase Corporation - Dallas Texas
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:25:38 GMT


You need 2 Files... Here's what MINE look like....

   $HOME/.elm/filter-rules:

#Rule 1 - Send mustang mail list stuff to mustangs folder
if (to "mustangs@hpda.cup.hp.com")  then save /users/plarkin/Mail/mustangs
if (to "mustangs@hpcupt2.cup.hp.com")  then save /users/plarkin/Mail/mustangs

#Rule 2: Run Script to Notify of New Work Order and save in special folder
if (subject contains "New Work Request") then  execute "/users/plarkin/bin/new.wo %r"

  (in Rule 2, the script itself does the save, plus some other X-based stuff)

     $HOME/.forward

"| /usr/local/bin/filter  -v -o /users/plarkin/.filter_log"

What you need to know is that the filter-rules has a condition and an action.
Valid choices are:           CONDITION             ACTION
                             ---------             ------
                             subject               delete
                             from                  save
                             to                    savecopy
                             lines                 forward
                                                   execute

There are also several macros available for use in the ACTION string:
%h = Hour of the day;  %m = Month;  %r = Return address;  %s = Subject of Original
%S = "Re: Subject of Original"; %t = Time (HH:MM);  %y = Year 

I'm kinda new to this Filter stuff too, so if anyone has any better solutions for ME, 
let me know.
  
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: bvaughan@lotka.Princeton.EDU (Barbara Vaughan)
Subject: Re: WordPerfect as elm editor
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:04:35 GMT

In article <92289.233514QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> QQ11@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK (Alan Thew) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.200846.15376@das.harvard.edu>, adam@endor.uucp (Adam
>Shostack) says:
>>
>>In article <1992Oct13.194653.23098@midway.uchicago.edu>
>>dsoconne@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>>Does anyone know if it is possible/feasible to use say WordPerfect
>>>instead of the "builtin" editor in elm?
>>
>>The more usual solution to this would be to use pico (part of the mime
>>package) as the editor.
>>
>Check out joe as well. pico's nice in that it has a simple (not needed if
>you have ispell) spell checker.

Unfortunately, joe seems to have a problem for people who log into Unix
systems via NCSA telnet: when you get down to about line 20 of your
screen, what you type appears to type over the previous line.  This has
something to do with the terminal emulation (or lack thereof). joe's
author considers this to be a telnet problem, but that doesn't help me
because we're stuck with telnet for now.  It also doesn't happen with any
other editor I've used.  It's a shame, because joe shows real promise, but
this and a few other, more minor, bugs haven't been corrected.

I've chosen pico as the default editor for elm; our more experienced users
sometimes use vi, but even vi people seem to like pico for mail.  Another
nice feature of pico is a file browser, kind of like WordPerfect's F5
function.

If you use pico as your elm editor, be sure to use it with the -t switch. 
This avoids the the questions on exit (buffer has been changed; do you
want to save changes?; file name to save:) A wrong answer to these
questions will result in a null message being sent. The -t switch also
allows you to write your letter out as a file without renaming the
temporary buffer, which also would cause a null message to be sent.

I've also set up an elm pager for our inexperienced users which
essentially is just a command-line modification of less, providing a help
bar at the bottom of the screen.  I posted it several months ago, but if
anyone wants it, I'll be happy to mail it to you.

I've also written a small shell script for printing mail that prints to
the local PC printer (using the widely available tprint utility) if you're
logged in through telnet and defaults to lpr if you're logged in at a Sun
workstation.  For the sake of our unfortunate telnet users, a small
modification had to be made to the elm source to force the screen to
redraw after printing mail. 

Barbara Vaughan
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: stucki@math.fu-berlin.de (Christoph von Stuckrad)
Subject: Re: smail + procmail + elm + NFS ==> lost my messages
Keywords: lost message
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:01:22 GMT

syd@DSI.COM (Syd Weinstein) writes:

>No version of Elm has locked the folders.  There is no official
>locking protocol for folders other than the spool.  I guess with
>'non spool' delivery becoming common, something does need to be
>done about this, but it requires that both sides honor it.
>(IE: Filter, procmail, deliver, et al also need to not deliver
>if the appropriate advisory lock is set.)

Well, worse than I thought :-)

I just found out that even the SUN mailers do NOT use lockf and fcntl !
They use dot.lock [with the 'extra sequence for NFS-locks':
	1) create dummy, 2) link dummy <name>.lock 3) unlink dummy]
and flock (which is then unnecessary/useless on NFS) !

>
>Patches to make Elm lock in the same protocol as procmail,
>deliver, et al for folder changes are welcome.
So only dot.lock remains to be included ... everywhere ?

If only I had the time...
My Problem was to get a secure method FAST ... :-(

But THANKS for explaining...
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From: arc@Ingres.COM (Andy Cowling)
Subject: elm (2.4-Sun 4/X11R4) -z clears 'No mail' msg
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:08:55 GMT

Just built elm 2.4 PL0 on Sun 4 (4.1.1.1) running X11R4 (Motif) using
gcc 2.2.2.

With no new mail, elm -z briefly displays the message 'You have no new
mail' before immediately clearing the screen. Our previous (ancient
2.3 PL2) didn't have this bug.

Looks like the call of Raw(OFF) (curses.c) after check_mailfile_size
might be the culprit. ./configure selected TERMIOS for tty handling.
Setting TERM=vt100 fixes it. Anyone noticed/fixed this behaviour ?

Apart from this minor glitch - looks great !
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Ingres Ltd, (Emerging Products Group), 15-19 Britten St, London SW3 3TY
From: becker@med-in.uni-sb.de.med-in.uni-sb.de
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: Re: ELM 2.4 - no signatures, promptafter doesn't work
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:03:49 GMT
Organization: Medizinische Universitaetsklinik, D-6650  Homburg / Saar
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

In my posting I wrote:
: 
: Elm doesn't include the signature files in the outgoing mail and
: asks everytime: i to return to index screen after the pager has done his work.
: There is no effect, when I change the variable promptafter in elmrc.
: 
The problem with the signatures was easy. I included the file-names with "
and this is not allowed.

Thanks

Dieter
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: minor@rtsg.mot.com (Kevin Minor)
Subject: Re: Choice of pagers
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:13:58 GMT

scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons) writes:

|>alan@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Alan Phillips) writes:

|>>I think ELM should run the selected pager even if there's not enough for
|>>it to page.

|>The problem is less, not elm.  Less will, by default, act just like
|>cat if there is less than one screenful of data.  You can change the
|>situation by using "less -e" (don't know if that'll work in your
|>options file, but it's worth a shot), or be setting your LESS
|>environment variable appropriately.

You guys must be running a different version of less than what we have here.
You must _always_ quit from our less no matter how long the file is.

(And I wish it didn't.)
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From: mcglough@glas.rtsg.mot.com (Mark McGloughlin)
Subject: Something that I had hoped for in 2.4
Summary: Why was this not included ?
Keywords: folders name completion
Organization: Motorola Ireland Ltd., Cork, Ireland.
Distribution: World
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:58:33 GMT

One of the things I most looked forward to when 2.4 was released
was the hope that when you chose the <c> to change folder you could
complete the desired folder name by hitting <ESC> or <SPACE> if
it was unique at that point. Something like csh, tcsh or emacs etc..

It doesn't. Sigh..

Any ideas why this wasn't included ? 

Otherwise elm 2.4 is fab.

Mark...
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From: spencer@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
Subject: no From: line in copy of outgoing mail
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:57:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Oct16.065741.2585
Reply-To: spencer@phoenix.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun)
Organization: Live Organ Transplants

We're still running 2.3PL11.

I have things configured so that all outgoing mail gets stored in a
folder by the recipient's name.

I just noticed the other day that this copy does not have a From: line.
OK, so this isn't really necessary since you know you sent the e-mail,
but it breaks one of my scripts :-)  Although IMHO the From: line ought
to be there, regardless.  I suppose meanwhile I can just always Bcc:
myself but that's a really ugly solution.

Actually, I fixed the script so that it no longer breaks, but does
something acceptable with it, if not 100% desirable.

Is this changed in 2.4?  If so, I can bug my sysadmin to upgrade :-)

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From: syd@DSI.COM (Syd Weinstein)
Subject: Re: Problems with compiling 2.4 PL0 on amdahl uts
Keywords: 2.4 Pl0, compile, amdahl
Organization: Datacomp Systems, Inc., Huntingdon Valley, PA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 15:23:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.150707.25012@cbnews.cb.att.com> eotto@cbnews.cb.att.com (erick.otto) writes:
>	I am trying to compile 2.4 which I just pulled of ftp.uu.net
>	on our amdahl system. I have 2.3 PL11 running right now.
>
>	First one of the header files in hdrs uses void ptrs which my compiler
>	does not like!! The file is msgcat.h on line 110.
>
>	Second I get lots of errors when the file lib/ndbz.c tries to compile,
>	the first one being that 'size_t' can not be found !!!
>
>
>	Any hints, has anybody tried to compile elm 2.4 on a amdahl yet. 
>	As far as I know all of us guys at AT&T labs use amdahls.
Sounds like a really old system.....

Ok, if no voids, then add
-Dvoid=int
to CCFLAGS in Configure
Some SVR2 does not have size_t
Add
-Dsize_t=int

to CCFLAGS in Configure.
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Datacomp Systems, Inc.                 Projected 3.0 Release: ??? ?,1994
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Newsgroups: comp.mail.elm
From: n029gg@tamuts.tamu.edu (Adam Roach)
Subject: Re: Killfile..... or whatever
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:37:42 GMT

In article <BvrK3I.2rq@cs.dal.ca> roy@ug.cs.dal.ca (David Roy) writes:
>Hello everyone, I am looking for a method to weedout (not really that command)
>incoming messages.  I want to automatically delete all mail from a specific
>user, and/or, a specific subject.  Is either one possible?  Please respond
>ASAP and I would appreciate a sample file if it is an external file..  thanks
>in advance.  

There are actually several programs available to do this; elm's own
filter program can take care of this (although filter has an 
infamously bad track record of permentantly losing important mail without
a trace), but I suggest against using it. The program I use, and have
had no problems with, is procmail, available via ftp from numerous
sites (if you need to find it -- and this applies to any program you hear about
available for anonymous ftp -- telnet to archie.au, use username archie,
and type "prog procmail.tar.Z". It'll let you know where to find it). 
As a hint: if you want to weedout mail using any of these filter-type programs,
simply redirect it to /dev/null. 

(For instance, once you have procmail installed, you'd add these lines to
your ~/.procmailrc:

::
^From:.*annoyingperson@his\.machine\.org
/dev/nul


					-Adam Roach

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