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From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (David Steinberg)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Brent at His Best
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:40:36 GMT
Organization: NMSU Computer Science

In article <1992Oct6.151939.12628@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> SHAPLEIG@peocu1.peocu.navy.mil writes:

  >I'd have to say my favorite would be from Greensboro in '87 or '88.

  Greensboro Coliseum 3/30/90
     I
   Bertha
   Jack Straw
   Row Jimmy
   Blow Away
   When I Paint My Masterpiece
   Bird Song
   Promised Land

     II
   China Cat->
   I Know You Rider
   Looks Like Rain->
   Terrapin->
   Jam (smokestack tease)->
   DrumZ->
   Space->
   The Other One->
   Stella Blue->
   Sugar Mag

   *Knocking on Heaven's Door
(Note: I'm doing this from memory, I might have missed a song)

Greensboro, as harsh as the cops might have been, sure was better than
Pittsburgh. BTW I miss camping, vending, and HALL SPEAKERS.  This tour
was my last with the speakers :@(.
-David "ZZYZX" Steinberg
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From: cii6694@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Pete Doyle)
Subject: Set list
Followup-To: cii6694 (Pete Doyle) 
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:32:02 GMT


     This E-Mail on the Dead is one of the coolest things I,ve ever learned
in school.  But anyway, I need the set list for summer tour 90 at the world
music theater, in tinely park.  My girlfriend was at the shows and needs to
know as soon as possible.  Dec 2 Denver,  I'm there first song Bertha, who
wants to bet!
From: gelderd@acf3.nyu.edu (Dirk Van Gelder)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Memorabilia and Memories of Fillmore East needed. $$$
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:13:30 GMT
Organization: New York University

Hi everyone!

	
	Do you have old tickets, programs, pictures, memories etc. of 
the Fillmore East? My roomate is working on a book about the old 
Fillmore East, he needs material from people who were there or have
collected any memorabilia from the time. He has a cash advance
from a publishing company and will pay you 

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>$$MONEY$$<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

To use pictures of your memorabilia or short stories about the shows
in the book. Any stories/memories used will be given proper credit 
and he only needs to take pictures of any old memorabilia/photos you
might have.

For more info, call Preston Bakshi at 212-388-1636

or

send me email at gelder@graphics.nyu.edu

Thanks-
Dirk Van Gelder 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: ADJS000 <ADJS@nmumus.bitnet>
Subject: Alpine
Reply-To: ADJS@nmumus.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:14:09 GMT

A couple summers ago, my daughter squandered her paper route fortune on
a coupleof New Kids tickets, set for Alpine. The kids cancelled (go
figure!), and Alpine bellied. Request for
refunds...bankruptcy...bullshit...bummed daughter. Anyway, now that
Alpine is moderately back in action, I heard that they are doing ticket
swaps for those who got knifed by cancelled tours of long ago.  This
past summer they didn't offer much, but if the boyz were able to
re-enter Alpine (now owned by SONY, je pense) for summer 1993, I would
pursue the ticket swap with vigor... reimbursing the young one with
plenty of interest!
Jim S. (snow IN OCTOBER!!!! I'M DYIN' AGAIN!!!!)
From: eb@esv.bgsm.wfu.edu (Ellen Buckley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: the Great Bus Stop
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:02:10 GMT
Reply-To: eb@esv.bgsm.wfu.edu
Organization: The Internet


jim (JPC2901@ritvax.isc.rit.edu)  asked a great question earlier today:  
what inspired each of us to get on the bus?  

for me it was college orientation, of all things.  my freshman roommate-to-
be called me about a week before moving-in-day to introduce herself and get
settled those burning issues like who was bringing a hotpot and who had a
cd player etc etc.  anyway, towards the end of the conversation she said,
"oh by the way, i have an extra ticket to see the grateful dead at the 
cap center (editor's note:  sorry cap ctr haters!!) on the friday after
orientation starts-- would you want to go?"  i said "sure, why not?"  i
liked the dead in high school but knew NOTHING of the whole scene.  

anyway orientation rolled around and so, finally, did my very first show.  we
drove along the curving drive up to the cap center and there were these people
EVERYWHERE with long hair and bare feet and signs that said,"who's got my
miracle?"  i just stared out the window and went, "wwwwowwww. . . "

needless to say i knew NONE of the songs they played, but i had a great time and
thus was born a deadhead.  that was five years ago.  

*sigh*

what lovely memories. . . 

peace, all, and have (had) a great weekend!!!

ellen

-- 

  **************************************************************************

   "sometimes the songs that we hear                ellen p. buckley 
    
    are just songs of our own. . . "                eb@esv.bgsm.wfu.edu
 
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From: les@ravel.udel.edu (Matthew Re Templeton)
Subject: Re: We now know who will be our next president...aka Greek poll #1
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usnet
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:39:11 GMT

In article <7a2zl+#@rpi.edu> dudasj@vccsouth20.its.rpi.edu (Joel Schostok Dudas) writes:
>Frank Zappa             1 vote       1.1%
>4) I am surprised more people didn't
>vote Zappa.

If he were president, would he have time to put a new album out or tour?
Jeez, where the hell is the guy, Germany???  Doing a symphony?????  My
only priority higher than seeing Frank live for the first time is seeing...
well, I'll give you one guess...:^)

...and one clue.  It isn't Neil...:^) :^) :^) 

Peace,

and a hello to whoever my branch is on the Greek tree.  I'll mail you
after my thermo exam tomorrow night....,

Matt
-- 
Matthew Reed Templeton  			  aka les@chopin.udel.edu
  Life is a precious thing - don't let it slip away.  In other words...
			  LIFE IS SHORT, PLAY!
			Smile 'til it hurts! :^)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: FRAHME@esdsdf.dnet.ge.com
Subject: RE: New Vince song
Reply-To: FRAHME@esdsdf.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:49:05 GMT

 
 Dave Chesavage (shunter@sdcc3.ucsd.edu) sez:
 
|Okay, this is really crazy, but trust me for a second. Go over to
|your record collection and dig out Carole King's Tapestry.
|Anyway, put on that song "I feel the earth move under my feet..."
|I heard this song for the first time in a really long time, and the
|resemblence to Vince's Long Long Way to Go Home is rather...uh...
|scary. Just listen to it and see what I mean.


Actually this is not so crazy.  I realized this too when I went to figure
out "Way to go Home" on piano.  

  Chris Frahme
  frahme@esdsdf.dnet.ge.com
From: jkiparsk@reed.edu (Jonathan Kiparsky)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: New songs/relics ?
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:31:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Oct14.193130.17051
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

In article <1992Oct14.022057.23981@alw.nih.gov> blewis@helix.nih.gov (barbara lewis) writes:
>I'm curious as to everyone's opinion on what the Dead will come back with
>in the way of new tunes vs. old tunes that haven't been dusted off in a
>while.  I'd like to think they could do a good mix between the two and give
>us some real excitement in both directions......    I'm convinced that the
>time off will prove to play a major part in spicing up the forthcoming set
>lists.  

New songs would be great, but I'd be in absolute bliss if they were to break
out the eleven at my next show... (the eleven->the other one->victim- yowza!)
-jon
From: gallo@almira.asel.udel.edu (Andy Gallo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Slipknot
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:16:54 GMT
Organization: AI duPont Institute

In article <1biaohINNeth@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> eds@po.CWRU.Edu (Ethan D. Siegel) writes:
>Hi there!  Just posting a message to anyone in the Albany, NY 
>area.  You should definitely check out a band called Slipknot as
>soon as possible.  I've been to about 20 of their shows, and WOW!

	Yeah, pretty hot band.  Last time I saw 'em the piano player
really blew me away.  

>They play Bogarts (Bogies) about once a month, and also
>play in Binghamton, NY every few months.  I HIGHLY RECOMMEND!

	They also play Pauly's in Albany and Aiko's in Saratoga, among
others.  There is a nethead (and Diamondback) who used to play with
these guys who can probably shed more light on this group.  Bill?

	The question I have is: when I used to work for Digital, there
were guys on the DECHead bulliten board raving about a band called
Slipknot that played around the Boston area.  To the best of my
knowledge, these are not the same guys that play in the Albany area,
but then again they may be.  I'm hoping someone can shed some light on
this.

	Sorry, no ODC, ONC (Neil), OPC (political), OGC (guns), ...

>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<
> Andy Gallo   | gallo@asel.udel.edu  | U. of Delaware/Applied Sci & Eng Labs <
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<
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Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: CASSIDY <JYODER@ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: re:Scarlet+ FIRE!
Reply-To: JYODER@ucs.indiana.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 01:20:41 GMT

As i must admit that looking at these postings there are a lot of incredible,
interstellar Scarlet-Fires in existence.  But for shear POWER, You HAVE to
check out the Segue from the two on Chicago Civic Centre 5-13-77 set I
As the Scarlet is tappering out we hear the intermingled wails of what sounds
like Donna dying on stage(death cries of some sort i hear)..but then it gets
even quieter as her voice has stopped and then a sort of percussive bit for
about 20 seconds followed by BOOM! Phil's base rips into a variation of the
Bass line, tearing to shreads any semblance of Scarlet Banging his way to a
30-50 second Bass solo that is slowly added to by the rest of the group.  By
far the most incredible fire opening ever heard.
fires would be
cornell of course
Capitol Center 78
notable list:
deer creek 91

while we are at it(speaking of segues)
st.stephen>NFA>St.Stephen>Help>Slip>Drums>Samson>Slip>Frank>Sat Night>U.S.
Blues
isnt all that bad...Oakland Stadium 10/9/76

peace



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* Cassidy     'gotta find a woman be true to me        *
*              wont hide my liquor try to serve me tea *
*                                                      *
* at:: Jyoder@rose.ucs.Indiana.EDU                     *
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Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: vandal@leland.Stanford.EDU (Levan Frederick Hiemke)
Subject: Re: the so called cure all libertarian party
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 17:48:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.003415.12919@newstand.syr.edu> crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Christopher R. Dunlea) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.004728.17855@udel.edu> gallo@almira.asel.udel.edu (Andy Gallo) writes:
>
>(Very familiar Libertarian dialogue deleted)
>

(Very familiar misinterpretation of Libertarian dialogue deleted)


> Privatizing fire companies?  God help us.

As Roger Waters says.... "What God wants, God gets.  God help us all!" ;-)

-Van
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tsl@eng.umd.edu (Tom Livingston)
Subject: Re: Delete 'em
Organization: Institute for Systems Research, UofM
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:10:40 GMT

In article <3907@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>
>	Just for the record, some of us are trying to run news on an
>old 105 MB Quantum ProDrive.  I like the idea of keeping discussions somewhat
	Hehehehe.  Heh.  <Ahem>.  Can you use SCSI?  how about MFM?
Would an extra drive sent to you keep you from getting so upset about
such a little thing?  Let me know your address...

Tom Livingston					tsl@src.umd.edu
w: (301) 925-1058

"I am Diamondback hear me ROAR! With numbers too big to ignore" 
	 -- Helen Reddy
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: Political Discussion Rebuke
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:35:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.142259.15296@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>,
REEDR@opsusa.decnet.siemens.com (Randy - QA Program Coordinator, SMS Iselin) writes:
>
>        Why do I tune in here to find only more political discussions?
>        This is not what I'm here for!  I believe in voting but not
>        in badgering others who came here to enjoy free and open
>        discussions about music and such.  Political discussions are
>        deleted from the Eyes of the World Forum on our BBS because
>        there is an appropriate place provided for such discussions.
>        I am going to edit my KILL file to avoid posts from those
>        who bombard me with politics here and I will let them know
>        that I have, so they are aware that there is one less ear for
>        them to be able to bother with their noise.
>
>        Aiko Aiko . . . .                       Randy Reed - CoSysop
>                                                Velocity Box BBS
>                                                3 Lines of 14.4K fun!
>                                                908-727-4263   8-N-1

... on the other hand, i guess we're NOT all willing to share our
toys,  coulda seen that comin'

Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:10149 alt.guitar.bass:1592
From: diskwiz@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Peavey bass equipment
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:37:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: math.1992Oct8.143710.139
Reply-To: diskwiz@maple.circa.ufl.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: Center for Instructional and Research Computing Activities

In article <BvrEF3.19C@math.uwaterloo.ca>, irmurray@math.uwaterloo.ca (Ian Murray) writes:
>Hey...
>
>I'm looking for information on Peavey bass equipment: basses (the model(s)
>with two humbuckers(?)) and amp combos (TKO series with or w/o Black Widow
>speaker).
>
>Any and all comments (playability, versatility, price...) are appreciated.
> 
>Thanks, Ian.
>-- 

I own a Peavey Dyna-Basss/Unity Series. It has neck-through-body setup and
an ebony fingerboard. Mine has two humbuckers in a P-J configuration. It also
has a three-band active EQ, but this can be bypassed. The neck is an absoulute
dream to play on. Very thin and natural and won't kill your wrist after three
hours of jamming. Balance is superb. The overall sound is very full. The EQ and
balance pot give you every possible sound you could need.

If you are looking for something cheaper, check out a Peavey Patriot or Fury.
They both sound and play very well.

Amps:

I have a TKO-80. Lots of oomph in the bottom end. Unfortunately, the single 15
doesn't quite give me the upper end "bite" that I want. If you add an external
2X10, though, they sound better. Oh...if you can, get one with a Black Widow
speaker. They have a faster response rate for transient signals, such as heavy
slapping or hard picking. Although, be aware that it will be HEAVY if ti has a
black widow. My little TKO-80 weighs in at about 90lbs!

Hope that helps!

Chad Young, Mechanical Enginerreing
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: yy@cbnews.cb.att.com (alan.j.lapenn)
Subject: Help selecting a keyboard.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 09:58:42 GMT

	I need some help selecting a keyboard for my son, he is 8 years old.
	I am not and never have been a keyboard player , my instruments are
	brass and guitar.

	The goal is to start him on piano lessons, but I don't have room for
	a piano, and I would also like something that is somewhat portable,
	MIDI compatible would also be nice. It should sound like a real 
	instrument not a toy, and have a standard size keyboard. I am not 
	opposed to buying used.

	Any help with make, model, price range( new/used ) would be appreciated.

	Thanks in advance.


-- 
Alan LaPenn      att!mvuxd!yy          .signature not found!
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar
From: wayne@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Wayne Wylupski)
Subject: Effects loop vs Straight In
Organization: Intermetrics Inc, Cambridge MA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:21:27 GMT

I have a bunch of questions regarding the effects loops of some combo amps,
because I've never used them and maybe I should.

What's the difference between the following setups:

Guitar -> effects -> amplifier

Guitar -> amplifier
	   |     |
	   effects (in the effects loop)

Where would one best put the following effects?
-- distortion pedal
-- wah-wah
-- compressor
-- delay effects (chorus, flange, reverb and digital delay)

If one was using the amp's distortion, would that change where one would put
the previous mentioned effects?

Thank you!

wayne
-- 
Wayne Wylupski    {...!}uunet!inmet!wayne    wayne@inmet.camb.inmet.com
From: fritz.owens@ozonehole.new-orleans.la.us (Fritz Owens) 
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: RE: COPYRIGHTS
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:53:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Ozone Hole BBS - New Orleans, LA - (504)891-3142 16800 Baud
Reply-To: fritz.owens@ozonehole.new-orleans.la.us (Fritz Owens) 

>
>OK, since it got brought up, how does ASCAP/BMI determine
>how to pay each of its artists?  In other words, if I
>write one little song and have it registered with BMI,
>does that mean that I get a certain fee each year, whether
>or not anyone plays my song on

HAH!  I wish that were so.  I wrote several tunes that had a lot of air
play here in New Orleans back in the middles 70's and because of the
inefficient collection method of ASCAP never got a dime.  You see,
because of the then great difficulty in tracking and documenting all of
the songs played on each and every radio station and television station
in the area (and across the U.S.) ASCAP and BMI have the radio stations
and television stations write down every single tune that is played on a
date picked at random every quarter (it may be more or less - this info
came from a radio station manager who is now dead) and covers a 24 hour
period.  The philosophy is apparently that a popular tune will be caught
by some radio station at random in the area by such a method.  As the
radio station manager told me, I was unlucky enough to have all of my
tunes being played on several radio stations miss all of the
documentation periods.  What they don't tell you (ASCAP & BMI) is that
unless you make it into the "book" by a documented air play you have
little or no chance of getting your tunes picked up by a major recording
label.  Unless you're lucky, or you have a disk jockey friend who will
play the dickens out of your tune during the documentation time. (I
wonder how many major label deals have been made because of that little
bit of musical politics?) Ah, well.  That's show biz.
From: kimple@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Marshall JMP-1 review (Chandler Tube Driver)
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:25:02 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College


As for the Chandler Tube driver comparison - the Tube 
Driver is NOT the same as a Marshall Preamp. The Tube driver runs on a much
lower voltage, and only has 2 gain stages - one tube. Marshalls either have
3 gain stages (earlier models) or 4 gain stages (newer models).

I got rid of my Tube Driver some time ago, though it's not bad at the right
price.

As for a direct -to -board sound, i get PHENOMINAL results with my 
ART PowerPlant, but that's another thread...

jd
"why, yes, I'm  a bored-again fish thing..."

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar
From: jea@lems21lems.brown.edu (John E. Adcock)
Subject: Re: Effects loop vs Straight In
Organization: Laboratory for Engineering Man/Machine Systems
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:04:08 GMT

In article <BvrwCJ.DK7@acsu.buffalo.edu>, faulkner@acsu.buffalo.edu (Shane P. Faulkner) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct7.212127.5677@inmet.camb.inmet.com> wayne@inmet.camb.inmet.com (Wayne Wylupski) writes:
|> >I have a bunch of questions regarding the effects loops of some combo amps,
|> >because I've never used them and maybe I should.
|> 
|> >Where would one best put the following effects?
|> >-- distortion pedal
|> >-- wah-wah
|> >-- compressor
|> >-- delay effects (chorus, flange, reverb and digital delay)
|> 
|> All the above should go in the amp's effects loop EXCEPT the wah-wah, which
|> I would put before the main input.  Someone correct me if I'm wrong.  You
|> can try it both ways without damaging anything.

Definitely put the compressor (and possibly the distortion) before the 
amp's preamp. The amp's preamp stage probably compresses the signal a bit
and adds noise (definitely when its distorting) putting a compressor after this
preamplification will enhance any noise in the preamp stage.  Compressor's
should always go first (distortion is a form of compression).
Time based effects (delays, chorus, flange) should go after all the
compression stages since these effects sound terrible when they are
compressed. (Unless of course you like the sound of chorus->distortion.
I suppose someone might.) :-)

On the other hand if your amplifier is perfectly clean and linear
(ie: produces no warmth or distortion) then it doesn't really matter
where these things go except that operating at line levels can lower noise.

As far as where to put a distortion pedal when the amp is producing
distortion, I don't know. Play with it before and after. One way
will probably sound more pleasing.
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From: lawrence.lougheed@rose.com (lawrence lougheed)
Subject: Homespun Tapes
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:05:31 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 10-09-92 21:00
Any comments, pro or con, regarding the Homespun video tapes?  I have
been considering trying the David Cohen Blues Piano Tape 1.  Thanks.
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From: stefanb@delos.stgt.sub.org (Stefan Bechtold)
Subject: Re: MUSENET 92 - Craig are you out there??
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 14:24:45 GMT
Organization: Delos Stuttgart, Germany

In article <386@ittc.wec.com> simmons@ittc.wec.com (Garry Simmons) writes:
>For Craig Latta or anyone else that knows...
>
>My band wants to submit a song on DAT for the MUSENET 92 compilation. I never saved
>a copy of your email address or the submission procedures (why does that sound
>so dangerous? :) ). Could Craig or someone please e-mail the details to me ASAP
>as I believe the deadline has just passed or is getting very close.
>
I've mailed Craig twice, but he didn't reply :-(( So if anyone who is
involved in this project  would mail to me also it would be great...

Stefan


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