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From: adrian@ibmpcug.co.uk (Adrian Hall)
Subject: Re: ecinit on ifconfig
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:44:04 GMT

>> Apparently a "scalpel" left in the code (ifconfig or ec-driver). Try
>> ifconfig with a redirection to /dev/null to identify whether it is in
>> the driver or in ifconfig.
>
>No. You won't see any error message anymore. Try to find the message
>"ecinit" in the kernel and patch it (e.g. using any DOS disk tool). Replace
>it by a character null (may be there's an escape sequence before "ecinit",
>but then there should be another one behind it - I don't know). Another hack
>could be to call
>

Gee, And I thought 386BSD came with full kernel sources.

What is the point of binary hacking the kernel when you have a 
perfectly good source editor?

Adrian

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From: ado@ibg1.ibg.sub.org (Christoph Adomeit)
Subject: adaptec scsi error,sendmail error
Organization: ibg
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:53:36 GMT

Hi Freaks,

386bsd runs fine now, after I replaced this incompatible ash by the
GNU-bash and linked bash to /bin/sh.
I got Cnews,Elm,nn ... to compile without (major) problems.
Now it's time to do a backup, but my scsi-tape does not work.
When I boot I get a message like :
as0 scsi sense error 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0  (something like that).
The same error occurs, when I try to use the scsi-tape.
I only use the adaptec for streaming, i don't have any scsi-hard disks.
The scsi-bus is terminated correctly and the adaptec 1542b is switched
correctly.

Any idea ?

2 )
I don't have any sendmail experience. My sendmail always complains that
there is no "frozen config file sendmail.fc". I only have a "sendmail.cf".
Any idea about how to generate a "sendmail.fc" ?

3 )
Where is the library function ftime ?

Thanks
Bye
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From: st@styx.ucrc.sub.org (Stefan Timm)
Subject: Ethernet adapters for BSD/386
Keywords: ethernet
Organization: Stefan Timm EDV-Beratung
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:17:36 GMT

Is the Intel Etherexpress 16 adapter supported by 386/BSD?
Has anyone written a driver for it?

What ethernet adapters are supported?

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From: david@mlb.geomechanics.csiro.au (David Le Blanc)
Subject: [386bsd] How do I config a SCSI tape into my system?
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: 26 Aug 92 06:19:58 GMT

The subject says it all. Here is my current config, note that
access to /dev/ras0a returns 'Bad File Descriptor'.

The controller is an adaptec 1542b, and is found on bootup.


#
#
machine		"i386"
cpu		"i386"
ident		PCDAVID
timezone	-10 
maxusers	10
options		INET,NFS,XSERVER
options		"COMPAT_43"
options		"TCP_COMPAT_42"

config		"386bsd"	root on wd0 swap on wd0 and as0

controller	isa0
controller	wd0	at isa? port "IO_WD1" bio irq 14 vector wdintr
disk		wd0	at wd0 drive 0
disk		wd1	at wd0 drive 1

controller	fd0	at isa? port "IO_FD1" bio irq 6 drq 2 vector fdintr
disk		fd0	at fd0 drive 0
disk		fd1	at fd0 drive 1

controller	as0	at isa? port 0x330 bio irq 11 drq 5 vector asintr
disk		as0	at as0 drive 0		# My tape unit??
#disk		as0	at as0 drive 0
#disk		as1	at as0 drive 1

device		pc0	at isa? port "IO_KBD" tty irq 1 vector pcrint
device		npx0	at isa? port "IO_NPX" irq 13 vector npxintr
device		com0	at isa? port "IO_COM1" tty irq 4 flags 0x01 vector comintr
device		com1	at isa? port "IO_COM2" tty irq 3 flags 0x01 vector comintr

device we0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 2 iomem 0xd0000 iosiz 8192 vector weintr
#device ne0 at isa? port 0x300 net irq 2 vector neintr
#device ec0 at isa? port 0x250 net irq 2 iomem 0xd8000 iosiz 8192 vector ecintr
#device is0 at isa? port 0x280 net irq 10 drq 7 vector isintr

device		wt0	at isa? port 0x300 bio irq 5 drq 1 vector wtintr

device		mse0	at isa? port 0x23c bio irq 5 vector mseintr

pseudo-device	loop
pseudo-device	ether
pseudo-device	sl	2
pseudo-device	log
pseudo-device	pty	4

pseudo-device	swappager
pseudo-device	vnodepager
pseudo-device	devpager
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From: slix@svcs1.UUCP (Bill Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: how to set 386bsd 0.1 up with FTPbsd
Keywords: install,ftp,hostname,newuser,help
Date: 1 Sep 92 06:20:46 GMT
Organization: Silicon Valley Computer Society, Sunnyvale, CA


Hi BSDers,

Well, first of all, I got the bindist of 0.1 about a month ago and finally
I decided "what the hell, go for it" :) and installed it on my Packard Bell
386sx machine.  (I have 130 meg IDE + 4 megs ram, no math chip.)

I am quite well experienced with things DOS (I've been running it for
a long time) but not with things UNIX.  I've used it in various flavors only
for a short time.  I'm somewhat familiar with the 'standard' utilities but
not as much with sysadm stuff as I should be.

So, I have a couple of questions.  These might be FAQs but I haven't yet 
been able to get the FAQ yet.

1) After it extracted all the bindist cpio files, it asked me to name the
computer.  I typed in "Belvedere" :) but it also seemed to suggest putting
in a numeric domain (e.g. 121.43.22.11 or whatever).  I've seen these domains
before (I realize they have to do with FTP), but I haven't the *foggiest* idea
how to come up with a numeric domain for this installation.  I would assume
I can't just type in a random one - it might be already used by an FTP site or
other unix system.
 
2) I read the INSTALL.NOTES file on how to set up for ftping the other
distributions (src,etc) as well as any other files I might need.  There seemed
to be some unclear stuff in there with respect to how I go about doing this.
 
I tried tip.  The first time, I got what some others have gotten - a connected
message and then can't suspend (have to reboot) after doing 'tip com2' or
'tip /dev/com2'.  Now, all I get is an 'unknown hostname' message.  

I am well cognizant about bbsing, mail (such as it is) and getting files from
BBSes and even ftpmail from a unix host I've been calling over the past month
to read this and other newsgroups.  However, I can't seem to find how to
set things up in bsd to be able to do much of this yet.

3) Sometime down the road I am going to want to get uucp up and running so
that I can get and read news (and use mail) from 386bsd, and not have to
go through a 'bbs' (i.e., call to read news online).

It looks like a lot of this stuff is related somehow.  I need some hand-holding
I suppose, and some specifics.  For example, if files are available on agate.
berkeley.edu, what do I need to do to set my machine up to connect to them
via ftp?  If I have a numeric domain address, can I just do 'ftp 121.21.320.2' for example, and get there?
From: adam@micromuse.co.uk (Adam Kerrison)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: 386BSD - Success & Failure !
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:23:35 GMT
Reply-To: adam@micromuse.co.uk
Organization: MicroMuse Ltd, London, UK

Hello BSD world,

I have had some success with 386BSD - My machine is:

33MHz 386 with 128K cache and 8Mb of memory,
Seagate ST1239a 211Mb drive (drive 0)
ST152 44Mb drive (drive 1)
IDE controller
Orchid Prodesigner I (ET3000 based card)

When I first tried to install the system (following the instructions from 
lurch@ee.latrobe.edu.au) I encounter problems when creating the filesystems -
the newfs command would just hang the machine.

Luckily, I work where we have other hardware, so I built a machine consisting of
another 33Mhz 386 board, my ST1239a drive, IDE controller and an OAK VGA card. This
successfully installed and is now quite happy. I also installed X386 but it didn't
seem to like the OAK card so I took my drive back home and tryed to boot of it.

On power up, my machine checks the hardware successfully and beeps (as usual). The
hard disk light then flashes very briefly and the machine trys to access the A: drive
as if booting - the machine is then hung up.

My question is Do I have a broken IDE controller at home ? It has worked fine for the
past 9 months with DOS on the larger disk. Does BSD have a bug in its IDE interface ?
Is my IDE card incompatible with BSD ? 

Any answers would be helpful ... 

Thanks in advance

Adam

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From: mhelgren@cat5.cs.wisc.edu (Matt Helgren)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: 386BSD, X386 dosent work with my new kernel!!
Date: 3 Sep 92 04:44:02 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
	Someone had been kind enough to give us a kernel that worked with X386
	on our system.  Problem is that now I with to patch some of the bugs
	in the kernel (and yes I did put in the patches for


	Matt Helgren
	U of Wisc
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From: rpw3@rigden.wpd.sgi.com (Rob Warnock)
Subject: Re: [386BSD]: DEPCA support in future?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 09:06:32 GMT

veit@du9ds3.uni-duisburg.de writes:
+---------------
| If my memory serves me right, the DEPCA uses an INTEL 82586 LANCE. There was
| a recent posting for an "ie_driver" based on this chip. It should work, or it
| should be not too difficult to modify it.
+---------------

You're confusing two different companies: "LANCE" is a trademarked
name for the AMD Am7990.  The Intel 82586 is... just the Intel 82586.


-Rob

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From: zdxh0a@trc.amoco.com (Douglas Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: BSD4.4 (oh boy! oh boy! oh boy! oh boy!)
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:25:57 GMT
Organization: Amoco Production Company, Tulsa Research
Originator: zdxh0a@gpss53


In article <47211@shamash.cdc.com>, pbd@runyon.cim.cdc.com (Paul Dokas) writes:
> Well, I just read the posting made by Keith Bostic in
> comp.bugs.4bsd.ucb-fixes announcing that BSD4.4-alpha (encumbered
> I assume) is now ready for wider distribution, but still only
> to those with an USL license >:-(
> 
> 
> On a very related topic.  Does anyone know if UCB is still planning
> a BSD4.4-lite release?  Or has the USL law suit made UCB decide to
> cancel the BSD4.4-lite release?
> 
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I got a letter from them a few weeks ago about the BSD4.4-alpha. It
indicated that they plan to still have the BSD4.4-lite release. There
was no dates given on the release.

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From: pfp@magwien.gv.at (Peter Pflaeging)
Subject: Re: SCSI-2 tape and disk drives recommendations
Organization: Gemeinde Wien, MD-ADV/Md Ref. EPS
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:15:23 GMT


I'm using BSD/386 with DEC, Fujitsu, WREN and Quantum SCSI drives
(CCS, SCSI-I and SCSI-II). All work great!

I'm using a Wangtek PK5150ES and a Tandberg3660 without problems. But
it is possible to install the system with network only access to a
streamer tape.

                        peter

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From: khera@cs.duke.edu (Vivek Khera)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: [386bsd]
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:33:02 GMT
Organization: Duke University CS Dept., Durham, NC
In-reply-to: adrian@ibmpcug.co.uk's message of 2 Sep 92 09:50:22 GMT
X-Md4-Signature: 3941ec003a0964c3d6135874059dcc8c

In article <Bty3Bz.DE5@ibmpcug.co.uk> adrian@ibmpcug.co.uk (Adrian Hall) writes:

   doscan and doprnt are the low-level routines that scanf and printf
   use.

make that doscan and doprnt are low-level routines that *some*
*implementations* of scanf and printf use.  one should not rely on
these being available as part of the C library.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: tri@niksula.hut.fi (Timo Rinne)
Subject: How to add another SCSI drive?
Reply-To: Timo.Rinne@hut.fi
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:31:36

I plan to add another SCSI drive to my 386bsd-system.
I'd like to make normal bsd-partition and larger swap
on that second disk. Anyone cares to expain how is
this done? Can I remove original swap from the first
disk after installing the second one and make maybe
a little scratch partition out of it? How?

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From: colin@marsh.cs.curtin.edu.au (Colin Manning)
Subject: Re: 386bsd FAQ
Keywords: 386bsd FAQ ?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:24:35 GMT

blo@fwi.uva.nl () writes:

>Hello everyone out there,

>Is there a FAQ list on 386bsd and X386?
Yes.
At the ftp sites in 386bsd-0.1/unofficial/386bsd.FAQ
>Thanx
>Ben Lo

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From: jingsong@jalapeno.cs.ucdavis.edu (Jingsong Cai)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Does X386 support Prodesigner IIs in 386bsd? --- HELP!
Date: 3 Sep 92 04:11:05 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis


    Titles says it all. Your help is highly appreciated!

 JSC
From: adrian@ibmpcug.co.uk (Adrian Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Using the Source (Luke :)
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:52:29 GMT
Organization: The IBM PC User Group, UK.

>>In another vein, where should I look for more instructions on how to enable
>>incomming telnet and ftp connections.  The boot sequence "sees" my 3c503 and
>>ifconfig makes the thing work (I can ping, ftp, and telnet other hosts) but
>>if I try to ping, ftp or telnet my 386BSD machine from another machine,
>>I get no response.
>
>Currently I have no net with 386bsd, this should answer somebody else :-)

Is inetd running? If it isnt, incoming stuff will not work.

Adrian

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From: guido@starbase.gun.de (Guido Kemmerling)
Subject: 386BSD: AST FourPort / FAS available ?
Organization: Godcorp
Summary: 386BSD AST FAS
Keywords: 386BSD FAS AST
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:18:06 GMT

Howdy Netlanders,

just two questions:

-  Is a AST FourPort (compatible) adapter suitable for the 386BSD?

-  Exists in the outer at least one (unofficial) patch for the FAS driver?


Thanx in advance

Grusz Guido
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From: mstehr@lascar.puc.cl (Martin Stehr)
Subject: Monitoring ethernet segment using PROMISC mode
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:34:40 GMT


Hi,

	I' am currently working on my thesis constructing some kind of
active network monitoring system. Actually the system is collecting 
information from multiple hosts, obtaining about each host kernel info
like job queues, disk I/O, context switches, device interrupts, page 
faults, swapping, etc. Also it can get info about for exampe TCP bytes 
and packets I/O on that host. The active part of the system is going to
be used experimentally in order to create some loads on some hosts or
between two of them, laying on the same or different ethernet segments.
The whole is going to be used remotely by other people for tuning or 
testing different configurations for hosts and connections.

	Now I'm searching for some method to obtain general info about
some ethernet segment, so as the *total* number of packets and bytes sent on 
the segment (not only to the specific host where the monitor daemon is
installed), considering all packets at the IP layer.

	I wonder if this could be possible opening a raw socket, setting
the corresponding ethernet device on *promisc* mode and using recvfrom()
to get all the incoming packets.

	I'll appreciate any info about:

1) if that's really possible
2) how does it affect system performance (more device interrupts ?)
3) some simple (?) method of doing the task by some kind of daemon
   installed on the system (I don't want to rebuild part of the kernel !)

	Our system runs a 4.3BSD Unix.

Any help would be appreciated !

Greetings from Chile - Southamerica :)


mstehr@lascar.puc.cl

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From: cflatter@nrao.edu (Chris Flatters)
Subject: Re: Q: 386BSD UUCP help, Ingres/Postgres ported
Reply-To: cflatter@nrao.edu
Organization: NRAO
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:46:11 GMT

In article 19952@vbohub.vbo.dec.com, pederiva@cobolt.enet.dec.com (Pascal Pederiva) writes:
>-Does anybody know if there is a working version of ingres (or postgres)
> for 386BSD ..or if there's another good database program around that
> could be used instead ? ( Or how difficult it would be to port one of
> those programs .. )

Shared memory (and lots of it) is a prerequisite for POSTGRES.  Each client
has its own copy of the POSTGRES server and the different server processes
share buffers.  Shared memory does not seem to be supported in 386BSD 0.1
although there are some configuration hooks for it.

	Chris Flatters
	cflatter@nrao.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: jdolter@eecs.umich.edu (James W. Dolter)
Subject: Patch for 386bsd 0.1 /usr/bin/man
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Deptartment
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:59:37 GMT


Release:         386bsd 0.1
Date:            September 02, 1992
Program:         /usr/bin/man
Bug Reported by: James Dolter <jdolter@sawtooth.eecs.umich.edu>
Patch Provided:  YES

Description: In the function config.c:cadd() the pointer bp isn't recalculated
             when the pathbuf needs to be realloced.  If realloc moves the
             storage 'bp' is left hanging.  The bug manifests itself when
             you modify man.conf such that the pathbuf expands beyond 1k.

Patch provided below:

*** 1.1	1992/09/02 20:21:35
--- /usr/src/usr.bin/man/man/config.c	1992/09/03 00:25:36
***************
*** 98,110 ****
  	static size_t buflen;
  	static char *bp, *endp;
  	register size_t len2;
  
  	len2 = add2 ? strlen(add2) : 0;
  	if (!bp || bp + len1 + len2 + 2 >= endp) {
  		if (!(pathbuf = realloc(pathbuf, buflen += 1024)))
  			enomem();
! 		if (!bp)
! 			bp = pathbuf;
  		endp = pathbuf + buflen;
  	}
  	bcopy(add1, bp, len1);
--- 98,111 ----
  	static size_t buflen;
  	static char *bp, *endp;
  	register size_t len2;
+ 	register size_t oldlen;
  
  	len2 = add2 ? strlen(add2) : 0;
  	if (!bp || bp + len1 + len2 + 2 >= endp) {
+ 		oldlen = bp - pathbuf;
  		if (!(pathbuf = realloc(pathbuf, buflen += 1024)))
  			enomem();
! 		bp = pathbuf + oldlen;
  		endp = pathbuf + buflen;
  	}
  	bcopy(add1, bp, len1);
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From: terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C)
Subject: Re: time for comp.unix.bsd.386
Organization: Weber State University  (Ogden, UT)
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 18:39:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.052605.14262@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> comrade@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Peter Cooper) writes:
>jiu1@husc9.harvard.edu (Haibin Jiu) writes:
>
>>In article <34254@hoptoad.uucp> brendan@cygnus.com writes:
>>>
>>>Any reason not to start a discussion for creating comp.unix.bsd.386?
>>>(For the many people who are interested in geeric BSD issues, but
>>>could care less about device drivers in 386BSD, etc.)
>
>>Someone please do this!!!!!!  People like me who use true 4.xBSD
>>UNIX need this group to talk about issues that concern 4.xBSD in
>>general.  There has been just too much on 386BSD (which I abandoned
>
>It looks to me like it's time.  Will c.u.bsd still have enough traffic
>to make it a viable group?  I think so.  Discussions on the 68k port,
>stuff on NET/2 (including the pending legal action) should keep it
>ticking along - and I think quite a few people will be happy NOT to have
>to skip the 386BSD/BSDI386-related discussions.  I can't understand why,
>though ;-)

I strongly disagree here!  It took me a *long* time to get comp.unix.bsd
and alt.suit.att-bsdi to even be propagated to this site (I used to stay
after work *real* late one time a week to read and post to it).  I don't
think I'd like another 3 month delay!  I'm sure others are in the same
boat, and probably don't have a secondary site to save them; there is an
inherent propagation delay in the formation of new groups.

I personally don't have problems with 68K porting discussions in this group,
and the legal action already has it's own group, alt.suit.att-bsdi.  If you
aren't already getting this one, it's a good argument against accepting a
rename based propagation delay.  Perhaps a comp.unix.bsd.porting?

This leaves the net2 stuff, which is only out in beta right now, so it leaves
us some time.  *IF* we truly think that comp.unix.bsd is inappropriate for
386bsd, perhaps we should create the group and manditorily crosspost.  I
believe the group that would be suggested by Bill and Lynne would be
"comp.os.bsd" to avoid trademark entanglement such as that in BSDI's ad
(this is what they have suggested before).


					Terry Lambert
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