HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nigel@kathunk.phaedrav.on.ca (Nigel M Burnett)
Subject: Moving to England
Organization: as little as possible
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:26:01 GMT

Well, it is 100% definite yet but unless something goes wildly wrong,
Clarisse (My SO) and I will be moving to England for 6 months as of
Feb 1.  The company that fired me without notice back in September
wants me to take care of all of their computers in England and the
rest of Europe (about 15 now - double that in 6 months?), install
them, fix them and answer all the questions of the users.  After
that who knows.  Japan is still a possibility (faint).  An extension
is also a possibility (esp if sales are good).  Wanna buy a nice
medical imaging computer?

Although the office is in Newbury Berks., there's not much reason to
be there.  I need to be fairly close (<1 hr.) to Heathrow so I can
get to the continent fairly quickly.  Reading?Windsor?High Wycombe?
Any suggestions on what's a nice place and equally important, what
places to avoid, would be most appreciated.  I'll need a car (customers
in Wales, Bristol, Leeds, London) and a good train schedule.

Does anybody live near there?  Anybody at Reading U.?  Any spare
smoke-damaged rooms at the castle?

I can solve most problems by throwing money at them (either mine
or the company's) but I don't want to end up with less money after
working there for six months.  The biggest problem will be friends.
Friendly people of any orientation (man facing southeast?) are
most welcome to contact me (esp. now that my mail headers work!).

E-mail in the UK will be really iffy - I'll probably have to do
it myself.  If anyone wants to send me a mailing address/telephone
number, that might be pretty useful.  Assuming anyone wants to see
me :-)}.

Cheers
Nigel

-- 
The only purpose for which power can be rightfully exercised over any member of
a civilized community, against his will, is to prevent harm to others.  His own
good, either physical or moral, is not a sufficient warrant.   John Stuart Mill

Nigel Burnett: 78 Normandy Blvd, Toronto, Ontario, Canada, M4L 3K3 416-690-1834
Send e-mail to nigel@kathunk.phaedrav.on.ca or try uunet.ca!kink!kathunk!nigel
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Re: Impossible acts
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 02:53:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.200717.5432@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker) writes:
>
>Nope; just pick up the cat and start slurping :)
>
I wondered how your purity score was so damn low.;)

>
>				Kay
>PS: Sorry, still not got round to fixing my .signature on this account :)

I sort of like it.
>-- 
>the Crisco Kid: nasty pinko faggot agnostic pervert punk.  idx009@uk.ac.cov.cck


-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
Give me life, Give me pain,         It just means use your imagination. 
Give me myself again.  Tori Amos.            Billy Bragg 
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons)
Subject: Re: A hug request and a general growl at the world
Organization: Department of Atomic Text Units
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:02:23 GMT

In article <C0Hw51.6DG@news.udel.edu> seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
|In article <1993Jan6.172324.4416@vpnet.chi.il.us> orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons) writes:
|>In article <C0F82s.MnG@news.udel.edu> seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
[a discussion of the validity of the bisexual label]
|But it is also an identity.  This identity carries may society-deemed
|"essential" characteristics.  In your sense sure they are right and useful.

    Not necessarily, but I'll not chuck the word and then reinvent
the wheel.  The core definition is good, and the additional
characteristics can be stripped away by appropriate education.

|The labels are certainly not true in these cases.  I think that the
|baggage involved with any label makes the label inaccurate.  Especially
|dealing with such a subjective topic as sexuality.

  Yeah, well, most all labels have a certain degree of vagueness ;-)


|>   If you don't use the labels het, gay, or bi, what then will be
|>used?  It's a wonderful shorthand, so we don't have to spend all day
|
|Good point.  It is useful.  But it is not always representative.

  Yes, but as you've said, labels are normally rather vague.


[Various descriptions of an Orc]
|Does drool hurt keyboards? :)

   Yes.  If you're attached to your keyboard, don't drool (or pour
lambic) on your keyboard, 'cause you'll have to go out tomorrow and
replace it...


|>   The second description is a better one, by a long shot.  But
|>it takes 15 minutes to relate.  [...]
|>
|I believe that the only true way to know anything is through
|direct experience.  Yes that is an invitation.

   :-) :-)

   Hmm, he said, pray, please provide more details!  If you're
gonna seduce me in front of 30,000 other avid readers, you're gonna
have to work a bit!

                 ____
   david parsons \bi/ who's being distressingly honorable this month.
                  \/
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons)
Subject: Re: Impossible acts
Organization: Department of Atomic Text Units
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:41:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.094636.8582@nwnexus.WA.COM> elf@halcyon.com (Elf Sternberg) writes:
|   Do you know that Dr. Ruth, Dr. Reisman, and other sexologists
|recommend that a little *fear* can add some spice to your sex life?
|
|   Do you know that under full force the human jaw can exert 3600
|pounds per square inch of pressure?
|
|   Trust is letting an epileptic go down on you...


   (Or, for that matter, an enthusiastic top.  Hmm <he says,
looking in the direction of a very startled appendage> perhaps I
should reconsider my fondness for oral sex...)

                 ____
   david parsons \bi/ orc@sybase.com     // if you're very lucky
                  \/  orc@pell.chi.il.us // ditto
From: kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Australians (was Re: accidently out)
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:25:06 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England

In article <1993Jan3.074334.4732@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
>idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>>Bananarama?  Oh lord.
>>Now, if you'd said "Miranda Sex Garden", or "Shriekback", or "Diamanda
>>Galas", I might have let that pass.  But Bananarama?  Oh lord.
>
>What *is* this? I loan the CD of _Madra_ to Lisa, then I find veritable queues
>of people begging for copies, including my (nominally) strayt brother. Did they
>get rave reviews somewhere? Or have they just crossed the flashpoint which Tori
>did about a year back when _Little Earthquakes_ appeared?

Just?  Hah, madam! I've been more-than-fond of MSG (the group, not the
additive) for at least a year now.  Started with the Gush Forth My
Tears minialbum, then bought Madra, just recently bought their next
minialbum (with which, sad to say, I am not in love).

>Sometimes I feel like an arbiter of taste, then I recall the Duran Duran albums
>still sitting in my vinyl heap, or the fact that it was the High Atheist (and
>equally as cute as Lisa) Gideon who introduced me to Diamanda Galas. Then I
>just feel meshed with the Zeitgeist.

Anytime you feel like an arbiter of taste, give me a phonecall and I'll
come to Oxford for an arbitration session.  Or, better: will you be at
Dave and Alex's party in February?  I may bring a few things...

>Excuse the Bananarama, Kay; we all have such fondly-recalled trash which is an
>integral part of our early development, though these days we would never begin
>to listen to it.

YOU'VE BEEN PEEKING IN MY COLLECTION, HAVEN'T YOU?  DAMMIT, WOMAN,
JUST COS I'VE GOT A DONNY OSMOND ALBUM IN THERE DOESN'T MEAN A THING.
IT WAS BOUGHT AS A JOKE, HONEST!

>As for the cello, I dated a cellist once (OK, several times. Each Michaelmas
>term, in fact. mmm.)

Fascinating.  May I ask why only in the Michaelmas terms?

>>>So have I eulogised Tori Amos' eyes today yet? (ObGenderParityPloy) :)
>>No.  Please, who is Tori Amos?
>
>Kay!! Heavens... I have _Little Earthquakes_, and a lot of CD singles. Now,
>either you can send me a tape, or you can wait till I next buy a 10-pack. You'll
>end up buying the stuff yourself, if you're at all like Sara, Gideon, Chris, etc

Am I at all like Sara, Gideon, Chris, etc? :)

>She has red hair, indeterminately green/blue eyes, and likes playing live
>because all the faery get up on stage and dance along with her. Incredibly
>emotive but precise performances. She's been called a traumatised Kate Bush.

As someone who has long wished to traumatise Ms Bush, I'm now not
sure that I'll like this woman.  And, dammit, why does she have to
be named after That Party? :)

>And reason #3 for going to America is that I have her address |-)

Would you like me to go and slaver over her for you?

-- 
the Crisco Kid: nasty pinko faggot agnostic pervert punk.  idx009@uk.ac.cov.cck
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Re: kinda sorta re-demuffining
Keywords: muffin, goddess
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:19:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan10.193813.24459@muddcs.claremont.edu> sharon@pomona.claremont.edu writes:
>Greetings!
>
Hi:)
>
>I do have the feeling that the living situation would be fine; we all  
>seemed to like each other and it's a very comfortable house... but I do  
>feel an obligation to come out to these people I'd be living with, but I'm  
>just not sure how to go about it in a tactful manner. Any suggestions?
>
The king of tact that I am (ahem),
A.)  Don't show up with a male SO next time you see them.
B.)  maybe a bi-pride pin?

I really don't know.  I am usually so damn blount that I have forgotten
how to be subtle about things like that.  

>sharon@pomona.claremont.edu

Good Luck.  Jim.
-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
If you can't be good,               It just means use your imagination. 
be good at it.  T.B.                     Billy Bragg
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:36:17 EST
From: Ellen <DICKSONE@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Urgent notice!

In article <1r#3q=h@rpi.edu>, safarj@aix.rpi.edu (Jonah Emanuel Safar) says:
>
>Warning!  It has been noted by our professional and tireless staff that not
>enough fluff has been posted to soc.bi.
>We have given this problem serious (for us) consideration, and have
>decided that there is but one solution.  More fluff must be posted.
>
>(Dragon in love...?  Or maybe just overtired and halluncinating.)
You want fluff? You want overtired and hallucinating?  How bout reciting
mangled (gbl-oriented) Tick quotations (with pose) in best Wookie voice
(which A.G.Tiger says I do quite well) as client walks into office to
ask for assistance?  Deciding that one cannot embarass oneself even more
(being strung out on ZERO hours sleep and dozen or so cups o'coffee) decide
to continue in Wookie mode on various types of Wookie feed?  Woorina Wookie
Chow anyone?

-El
|^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^|
|"I shall surpress my every urge."                                       |
|       -The Tick, when asked to act `normal' when Arthur's sister visits|
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
From: arodgers@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Angus H Rodgers)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: (Not) Re: Bisexual identity and community
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:14:20 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <1993Jan11.173411.23150@dcs.warwick.ac.uk>
kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker) writes:

>In article <1993Jan9.180627.12954@news.acns.nwu.edu>
>Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde) writes:
>>I've been asked via e-mail to offer my views on this thread, so I may
>>pontificate at some length. But first let me say: IMHO IMHO YMMV YMMV 
>>BYOB RSVP SMTP etc... ;)

>Barely had Professor Lunde with trembling voice intoned the words,
>the writing of which was now scarcely legible, masked with fresh blood as
>it was, from the scrap of the grimoire found in the mad Arab's tomb,
>and barely had his shaking hand sketched out in the empurpled air
>of the incense-filled crypt that Sign, known by few and dared to be used
>by yet fewer, than - behold - to the accompaniment of tinkling cymbals
>and madly-piping flutes - a congeries of iridescent vapours, toiled
>into shimmering spheres of infinite and arbitrary-seeming dimensionalities,
>the emblem of the dread Yog-Sothoth!

Something unnameable, some Hell-spawned misbegotten THING, just popped
out of my terminal, gibbered something unintelligible at me (it sounded
like "Vote Libertarian"), and disappeared. Better call Ghostbusters.
--
Gus Rodgers,  Dept. of Computer Science, | Cinema's worst romantic dialogue? --
Queen Mary & Westfield College, Mile End | "Mechagodzilla's brain is  installed
Road, London, England.   +44 71 975 5241 | in my stomach!" "I don't care if you
E-mail (JANET):   arodgers@dcs.qmw.ac.uk | are a cyborg  --  I still love you!"
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:40:45 EST
From: Psycho!! <HOLTONS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Purity

In article <93007.150703SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>, Graydon
<SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> says:

>Annoying, sure; I'm afraid I've given up on not being annoying.

We've noticed...  We were hoping for a New Year's resolution...

There's always 1994.

  :)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells)
Subject: Re: Blatant hug request
Keywords: hugs, support
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:29:07 GMT

In article <C0Jrv5.FpG@athena.cs.uga.edu>
 wells@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Wells) writes:
>
>Well then, *hugs galore*
>I guess that's why we're called family.

Hugs galore from me too, even though I missed the original post.
(And hugs to that other Wells character there, too . . .)

>Scott Wells

Darren Wells
(working hard to make up for the lack of hugs this past month)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: nsn@ee.mu.OZ.AU (Nick Nicholas)
Subject: Nick pops in to say hi again
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering - University of Melbourne 
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:07:54 GMT

And still no fluff. Things... have been hectic.

*Meaningful hug to Zoe*

*Firm handshake to Dawn*

*Pleading wave to Joe*

*Soft smile to Karina*

*Cuddle to Laurie8, with gentle reprimand on Eccles impersonation*

*Vague salutation to Yvette*

*Bearhug to Kay* (I want all your Tavener, d'you hear me? ALL of it! And I
doubt I have much to trade, but I'll see what I can find.)

Two notices. First, my terminal has gone ker-plonk, so it seems that, in the
immediate future at any rate, I'll only be logging in once a week. Second,
in a couple of months, this account dies the death (as will the Engineering
faculty staff, if my Masters' application doesn't turn up where it's supposed
to PDQ :( ), and I'll probably be on... well, I dunno, but whatever machine
I'll be on, Tim'll be there too :) Oh, almost forgot:

*Hearty hullo to Timbo and churchmouse*

Nick, no longer provisionally het, but not quite back to being queer either.
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: I'm coming!
Date: 5 Jan 1993 06:07:55 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1iahl8INNqt7@cuda.add.itg.ti.com> winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js) writes:
->Don't mean to be forward, but.....

What's wrong with being forward?

->I will be in the SF/Bay Area from 1/18 - 1/29.

Hey, me too!

->I'd like to meet soc.bi'ers while I'm there
->(H I N T: Muffy, Roy, ...jeff(?))

Coolness! Hey, we can all have dinner together! And we can invite Dan and
Iseult also, and a bunch of other people!! Yeah!

(sending mail to js)

-roy

-- 
Roy S. Rapoport     internet: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu      bitnet: rsrsoda@ucbocf
anonymous mail: wi.5836@n7kbt.rain.com        androphile, gynophile, kerryphile
"What I used to think is me / is just a faded memory." -NIN
DISCLAIMER:  I speak for the University of California at Berkeley.  Rrrright.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells)
Subject: Re: What to do at a bar?
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:00:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.003832.23661@fuug.fi> an1428@anon.penet.fi writes:
>Hi all!
>  Having never been to a gay bar (or anyother bar of
>this type) I am wondering what to do?
>I know this sounds strange (stupid is a better word),
>but I am much (MUCH) better at picking up girls.
>I am going to have to chance to travel around the
>eastern part of the US this summer and would like to
>hear your thoughts on how I should handle going to
>a gay (or bi...is there such a thing?) bar.
>.
>I mean what do I do.....go sit at the bar?
>I know...I know...there is no difference, but hey,
>humor me here...I am a super fresh muffin.
>The Masked Muffin.

"Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm," Darren said as he took a whiff of fresh muffin.

Anyway . . .

Just from my own experience, my first time I just went and looked.
It helped to have trusted friends with me, and it helped that I ran
into an ex-lover (we were on good terms, thank God) but I deliberately
made a point of going just to look.  It did me a world of good to
just go, and realize that my boss, father, and the press would not
be waiting at the door of the place to humiliate me.  It took a lot
of pressure off of me, and it did me a lot of good to find a place
where I could just hang out, and not worry about who might see if a
motss friend came up to me and wanted a kiss.

The bar I went to is predominately gay, but there are lesbians, straights,
and a few bis (like me, for example *grin*) at any given time.  That
helped me too.  Of course, I won't pretend that I never pick up/get
picked up in the bar, but I guess that first time I just needed to
focus on breaking my mental block against going, and seeing motss
dancing together, kissing/groping in public, etc.

Just my $.02.
(hope that made sense, since I am starting to feel the effects of
sleep deprivation)

Hope that it goes well for you, and welcome to the group.
*hug*

Darren
(whose e-mailbox is always open . . . )
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: SILVERI@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Silver Tiger)
Subject: Re: bi badge wanted in UK:advice?
Organization: Queens University at Kingston
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:20:32 GMT

In article <C0r04C.3u6@dcs.ed.ac.uk>
pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley) writes:
 
>Bifrost sell lots of different kinds of badges: write to Bifrost, PO Box
>117, Norwich NR1 2SU.  Disclaimer:  I sometimes collate Bifrost.
 
For the benefit of those of us in Canada, could you lay out the full
international address, in the fashion that your posties over there
expect to see it?
 
Canada post would be stupid enough to assume that NR1 2SU was a CANADIAN
postal code, since it looks next-to-identical to our system of
Letter-Number-Letter, space, Number-Letter-Number.  I really don't want
this landmail to go flift...
 
Oh!  Don't let the US Landmail address in my .sig file throw you,
I just like to have postal connections in both the US and Canada.
:)
 
--
|  ..   Ian Silver/Silver Tiger/AgTiger      | Modem:  1-613-542-5110    ..
| .OO.  Email: SILVERI@QUCDN.QueensU.CA      | Landmail: PO BOX 333     .OO.
| O/\O  ____   Fido:  1:249/2 | 69:3005/4    |           Fineview, NY   O/\O
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Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells)
Subject: Re: Urgent notice!
Keywords: Make up your own.
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:51:24 GMT

In article <C0LLH5.F6y@news.udel.edu>
 seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
>
>Jim, who is posting this in the nude.

I will have to try this when I finally get a modem.  It might
pose a few problems if I try before then.

It is, after all, quite chilly outside.

Darren
(at least chilly for Texas anyway)
From: winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: general dissatisfaction
Date: 12 Jan 1993 21:20:57 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments
Distribution: world
Reply-To: winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js)
NNTP-Posting-Host: geek.teng.ppd.ti.com

In article <1993Jan12.171235.750@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, dwells@lonestar.utsa.edu (Darren . Wells) writes:

} In that case, since I live relatively close to john, I'll wait for
} the real thing.  (or at least a sample)
flirt <grin>

jsjohn

-- 
The opinions expressed in the above do not reflect those of
my employer, or anybody connected with my employer.  Including me.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: sharon@donald.claremont.edu (Sharon Snyder)
Subject: kinda sorta re-demuffining
Keywords: muffin, goddess
Reply-To: sharon@pomona.claremont.edu
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:38:13 GMT

Greetings!

I just read one of Sue Hogan's posts, where she "officially demuffined."

She wrote:

>I've needed to know that you were there.  Even if I didn't have the 
>courage to post myself yet, other people asked the questions for me.  
>You gave me the courage to actually acknowledge that: I *might* be bi, 
>I *think* I'm bi, I *am* bi.  You gave me the courage to start coming 
>out to people: friends, aunts, parents, then sibs.  I wrote some 
>private e-mail to people.  I joined a mailing list.  I sent mail to 
>ECBN.  I actually met some other bi people =-0 !  I am starting my
       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>network.  Thanks!

Hey, i resemble that remark!

I really honest-to-goddess hardly ever even lurk here (yeah, yeah, I know,  
I say that [privately] all the time), and don't think I've posted since  
August, maybe, when I met a few people from soc.bi on one of my many  
sojourns to the Bay Area.... i found that I had to defend my honor from  
how it was being tarnished. ahem. Usually, if I do read the list, I just  
scan for familiar names, mostly to see if they're saying any potentially  
embarrassing and/or lascivious things about latex. Grin. 

I also just returned from a 2+ week vacation in New England, where I again  
got to meet some soc.bi'ers. <wave>... and met some folks I didn't even  
realize were on soc.bi. *polite cough*

Like Sue, I'm delighted that this community exists, tho I rarely take  
advantage of it. (My newsreader is $(%*^% and I can't get to the one  
decent machine often enough to keep up with it all).

Well, just to make this kinda sorta bi-relevant, I'm in quest for a new  
place to live and have started interviewing people in my area  
(Claremont-Pomona-Ontario area in California). One of the places I went to  
would be with two lesbians... who said that they were looking for a  
"lesbian feminist" roommate. I usually don't have a problem coming out to  
people, but for some reason really felt odd about it. I kept thinking that  
maybe it wouldn't matter; I'm definitly feminist, and have a lot of  
lesbian identity (maybe inherited from my mom? Hmmm), but my _orientation_  
is bisexual. 

I do have the feeling that the living situation would be fine; we all  
seemed to like each other and it's a very comfortable house... but I do  
feel an obligation to come out to these people I'd be living with, but I'm  
just not sure how to go about it in a tactful manner. Any suggestions?

Sharon, macho princess/radical dudette/resident goddess
sharon@pomona.claremont.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi