HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: derekt@merlin (Derek E Terveer)
Subject: Re: Car dealers
Organization: City of St. Paul Public Works
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Distribution: mn
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:58:25 GMT

weiss@epx.cis.umn.edu writes:
: The upshot is that they eventually GAVE HER $500 so she wouldn't sue for
: breach of contract.
: Is this a positive experience?

Sounds like a zero experience.  -$500 (deposit) + $500 (gave her) = $0

--
Derek Terveer   Work:	derek.terveer@stpaul.gov	+1 612 292 6009
		Play:	det@hawkmoon.mn.org	+1 612 683 0413
"Big business and big government distract us with entertainment;
 they manufacture our consent while we destroy the environment."
 	 -- "Friendly Fascism" -- Consolidated	/* what a great band */
Newsgroups: mn.general
From: aslakson@tera.cs.umn.edu (Brian Excarnate)
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Organization: :noitazinagrO
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:20:02 GMT

muchow@zebo.network.com (Jim Muchow) writes:
someone else wrote:
>>But to the point... write it off and hope another station picks up the
>>format.  This decision was most likely mandated by absentee owners, and
Nazis or Communists are behind this, I can't decide which.

>format. Yeah, it was an alternative 40 songs, but still... I mean, I kind
>of expected that they would play more cuts off albums instead of the ones
>that they or someone else determined would be a "hit". 
If you want the B-sides, or album cuts, you can listen to 97 FM.  Caution:
my parents listen to that station, and it's a suspected granola strongpoint.

Thanks to the people who posted the addresses and phone numbers.  I'm going
to write, call, fax, lather, rinse, repeat.


Brian <-= Tuned in 104 and ripped off the knob.  Now I need a new knob.  Send
applications to me at this address.
--
"There are situations in which torture is not merely permissible but morally
mandatory."          -- Michael Levin
Newsgroups: mn.general
From: n3884@cray.com (Peter Palmer,#Rich Franta)
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Reply-To: n3884@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 12 Aug 92 10:03:42 CDT

In article 12LDPB2w165w@cybrspc.UUCP, roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
>qplp@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Pete Palmer) writes:
>
>> That's right, Modern Rock 104 is switching to a Country format on
>> September 8th.  Instead of getting out the moonshine, kicking the
>> dog, and whining about your broken heart, you can help save the best
>> format the Twin Cities have ever had.
>
>With the worst signal profile, I might add.  I used to like listening,
>but 104 won't come in reliably at home, and not at all where I work.
>
>But to the point... write it off and hope another station picks up the
>format.  This decision was most likely mandated by absentee owners, and
>the local manager had/has little control over it.  It wouldn't surprise
>me if the manager was about to be fired, as well.  (I don't have any
>inside information, but I was in radio for a number of years, and I've
>seen this type of thing many times before)
>--
>Due to failure of my mail connection, please use the following emergency
>                          addresses to reply:
>roy%cybrspc@tfsquad.mn.org   cybrspc!roy@tfsquad.mn.org   roy@tfsquad.mn.org


Roy is correct.  KJJO is owned by Park Communications in Ithica.  KJJO is collecting
all mail and FAXes (KJJO's FAX number is 941-8750) and sending them on to Park.
If you wish to contact Park directly, here's the address:

Park Communication
P.O. Box 550
Terrace Hill
Ithica, NY 14851
(607) 272-9020


Joke from a friend:
What Happens when you play a country song backwards?
You get your wife and job back and you quit drinking.

What do you get when you play New Age music Backwards?
New Age music.


Newsgroups: mn.general
From: jrc@brainiac.mn.org (Jeffrey Comstock)
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Organization: Sewer of Source Code
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 20:12:55 GMT

>>>But to the point... write it off and hope another station picks up the
>>>format.  This decision was most likely mandated by absentee owners, and
>Nazis or Communists are behind this, I can't decide which.
          ^^^^^^^^^^

Nazis ? , maybe - but THE CUBANS ? :-) 

-- 
Jeffrey R. Comstock 
INET  jrc@brainiac.mn.org
CW    -. .-. ----- -..
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From: muchow@zebo.network.com (Jim Muchow)
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 21:25:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.125234.9035@hemlock.cray.com> djg@cray.com (Dennis Guldan) writes:
>  GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF CRY BABIES.....
>
>  IF the station had enough listeners to make money doing what it was
>doing it would not be changing. If there is one group to blame it is
>the listeners... not the Cubans, Nazis, Communists or who ever you want
>to blame it on. Accept the fact that the demographics for your type of
>music can not support it's own station... grow up. If it did this
>discussion would not be flowing.    So get yerself a pickme up, some
>good boots and a old dog and leave the station where it is.....
>COUNTRY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, dawg howdy, Ah dunn seen the light. Ah had me an achy-breaky heart
over that new-fangled noise they call music goin' away and now Ah dunn
knowed Ah'us wrong. Well, thankee, stranger. Ah'm much obliged.

Jim Muchow - you kin never have too many country stations

Newsgroups: mn.general
From: aslakson@micro.cs.umn.edu (Brian Excarnate)
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Organization: :noitazinagrO
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:25:05 GMT

djg@cray.com (Dennis Guldan) writes:
>In article <...>, jrc@brainiac.mn.org (Jeffrey Comstock) writes:
>> >>>But to the point... write it off and hope another station picks up the
>> >>>format.  This decision was most likely mandated by absentee owners, and
>> >Nazis or Communists are behind this, I can't decide which.
>  GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF CRY BABIES.....
>  IF the station had enough listeners to make money doing what it was
>doing it would not be changing. If there is one group to blame it is
The way I hear it, they ARE making money.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  But
the incredible amount of annoying commercials back up what I've heard. 


Brian <-= writing, complaining, and recording...
--
"There are situations in which torture is not merely permissible but morally
mandatory."          -- Michael Levin
From: ta@mmug.macgate.mn.org (Tony Austinson)
Newsgroups: mn.general
Subject: Re: WorldBlazer PROMs shipping!
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 18:25:33 CDT
Organization: Minnesota Macintosh Users Group Public Access
Reply-To: ta@macgate.mn.org
Distribution: mn


In article <1992Aug12.192458.7871@pwcs.stpaul.gov>, derekt@merlin (Derek E Terveer) writes:

 > :  > 	2) Connect problem with BA4.00 PROM sets, primarily in TB+s.
 > :  >
 > :  > The second fix means that the owners of BA4.00 TBs need not get the new
 > :  > PROMs in order to allow WBs to connect to them.  At least this is what
 > :  > telebit claims.  We shall see.
 > : 
 > :      Or simply turn PEP micropackets off with S500=2 (register S120=16
 > : on the T2500 and below).
 > 
 > I am not sure what you are trying to say here.  There is no register
 > S500 that I know of on the WB.  Howver, if you mistyped and you really
 > meant S50, that register controls the modulation speed and S50=2 is
 > 1200 baud, which is unacceptable for my applications and probably most
 > other sites as well..  Perhaps you meant the protocol support register,
 > S111 (=30) on the WB and TB+, which controls whether or not UUCP
 > g-protocol spoofing is enabled?  This can drastically affect throughput
 > if turned off.
 > 
 > Furthermore, I am not terribly sanguine that the ability of the WB to
 > connect to the TB+ is purely a function of PEP mode.
 > 
 > Perhaps you could elaborate....?  I would like to be able to keep the
 > same throughput and tell my feed sites what register to change that
 > will allow my WB to connect to their TB+/etc without forcing them to
 > get the new TB PROMs.

     You sound quite confused.

     Are you having problems -connecting- in PEP mode a WorldBlazer to
a TrailBlazer Plus modem with 4.00 firmware or is the -throughput- between
the two in PEP mode lower than what you think it should be?

     If the former, turn off micropackets on the WorldBlazer (via
AT ~D1 S500=2, if your modem only displays the first 255 registers)
or upgrade the TrailBlazer Plus modems to current firmware.

     If the latter, set the S111=30 for UUCP-g as you stated, but
also make sure that PEP LZ data compression is off (S191=6) since
it's enabled by default.

--
Tony Austinson
Minnesota Macintosh UG/MacAddicts


      
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From: pjp@cray.com (Patrick Perro)
Subject: Wanted good cheap VGA monitor
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:11:00 CDT

Hi

I am looking for a good used VGA monitor. I've seen new ones going for $169.00
at Best Buy but I'm upgrading an XT and don't want to spend that much. So, Does
anyone know of a good used VGA monitor for sale and if so, how much??.

Thanks


=================================================================================

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Cray Research Inc.             				   above are my own. Not
655F Lone Oak Dr.  					   that of my employer
Eagan, MN. 55121					   (unless specifically
pjp@fig.cray.com					   noted).

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Newsgroups: mn.general
From: cecka@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Way Cool Jr.)
Subject: For Sale
Organization: Rock-N-Roll XPress
Distribution: mn
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:04:07 GMT


Well, this is .general, so sorry if this doesn't belong.  I have the following
for sale:

A Laser 128k, Apple II series compatible computer system.   $300/bo
	Includes:  Two floppy drives, amber monitor, mouse,
		   Software (financial, word processor, data base,
			     spread sheet, games)
	An excellent introductory system (or as a word processor for
	 high-school students).

If interested, please e-mail me.

********************************************************************************
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*  e-mail: cecka@stolaf.edu	*	To wonder if I'm free		       *
*                             	*	Give me a sense of wonder	       *
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Newsgroups: mn.general
From: brucer@djin (Bruce Alan Riebe)
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Organization: City of St. Paul Public Works
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:35:05 GMT

I think KFAI uses KJ104's mast myself.  Very limited range and a 10 watt
transmitter  8-)


derekt@merlin (Derek E Terveer) writes:
: osh@cray.com (O'Shaughnessy John) writes:
: : That does it.  I'm ready to get a non-tunable radio for my car with a
: : locked frequency of [local_MPR_news_station], and only listen to tapes/CD's.
: : How can country be getting THAT popular?
: 
: I pretty much gave up on listening to commercial stations years ago and
: now listen almost exclusively to KFAI (90.3) and 91.1.  KFAI has really
: excellent progressive music in selected shows.  For example, wed night,
: 11pm "21st century schidzoid man" (the name of the show), sun night
: 11pm "bag head", cool pyschedlic on sat night at midnight (i think),
: and another show during the week at drive time called "locomotion
: central".  There are others as well.  Join the station and get a
: schedule!!!
: 
: derek
: 
: disclaimer: i am obviously biased.
: --
: Derek Terveer   Work:	derek.terveer@stpaul.gov	+1 612 292 6009
: 		Play:	det@hawkmoon.mn.org	+1 612 683 0413
: "Big business and big government distract us with entertainment;
:  they manufacture our consent while we destroy the environment."
:  	 -- "Friendly Fascism" -- Consolidated	/* what a great band */

--
Bruce Riebe: Sun & Macintosh System Administrator 
City of St. Paul Public Works Computer Services
700 CHA 25 W. 4th St.  St. Paul, MN 55102-1660 (612) 298-5553
'Anyone who hates Dogs and Kids can't be ALL Bad.' --W. C. Fields
Newsgroups: mn.general
From: amundsen@molbio.cbs.umn.edu (Craig Amundsen)
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Organization: U of MN Herbarium
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:30:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.125234.9035@hemlock.cray.com> djg@cray.com (Dennis Guldan) writes:

 [ deleted ]

>  GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF CRY BABIES.....

 [ deleted ]

>COUNTRY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Getting a little defensive, aren't we? 
-- 
                  Craig Amundsen (amundsen@molbio.cbs.umn.edu)


                           <Insert Standard Disclaimer>
From: tomg@mishima.mn.org (Thomas Greenwalt)
Newsgroups: mn.general
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:08:13 GMT
Organization: Alternate Realities

muchow@zebo.network.com (Jim Muchow) writes:
> In article <12LDPB2w165w@cybrspc.UUCP> roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:
> >With the worst signal profile, I might add.  I used to like listening,
> >but 104 won't come in reliably at home, and not at all where I work.
>  
> Well, maybe not the worst, but certainly the most unusual. My brother, who
> works within sight of the masts can't pick up the station. On the other
> hand, we have picked up KJJO up in Cross Lake (north of Brainerd) clear as
> a bell for extended periods of time at night. Oh, yes, and then you lose
> the station for the first two or three miles of 94 south of 694.
> 
I was at a Magnolias concert they were broadcasting live and asked the DJ
there why they had such a lousy signal.  She said they were broadcasting 
out of Wisconson because it was cheaper or something and the Twin Cities was 
pretty close to the edge of the signal range.
-- 
Thomas S. Greenwalt (Tom-Too)                                  (612)866-1344
7300 Nicollet Ave. South                         tomg@mishima.mishima.mn.org 
Mpls, MN  55423
-------------- You only live once, so goodness sake inhale. ----------------
Newsgroups: mn.general
From: tomg@mishima.mn.org (Thomas Greenwalt)
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Organization: Alternate Realities
Distribution: mn
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 02:43:18 GMT

qplp@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Pete Palmer) writes:
> That's right, Modern Rock 104 is switching to a Country format on
> September 8th.  Instead of getting out the moonshine, kicking the
> dog, and whining about your broken heart, you can help save the best
> format the Twin Cities have ever had.  Here's some info:
> 
Gee what a surprise. Seems like radio stations around here change thier
format every 18 months or so.  I can certainly see where music glorifying
adultry and being a drunk is more popular :-).  I've always preferred the
premartial sex and drugs format myself :-).
-- 
Thomas S. Greenwalt (Tom-Too)                                  (612)866-1344
7300 Nicollet Ave. South                         tomg@mishima.mishima.mn.org 
Mpls, MN  55423
-------------- You only live once, so goodness sake inhale. ----------------
Newsgroups: mn.general
From: muchow@zebo.network.com (Jim Muchow)
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:34:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.212753.21548@brainiac.mn.org> jrc@brainiac.mn.org (Jeffrey Comstock) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.103948.26520@walter.cray.com> osh@cray.com (O'Shaughnessy John) writes:
>>
>>They must be broadcasting from somewhere East of the Twin Cities.  I can pick
>>them up around Eau Claire when on 94.
>
>To solve this question I called the station business office number (941-5774) 
>and asked "where is your broadcast tower ?".  The answer was "Somerset 
>Wisconsin". 

Geez, whatta poop. And I suppose you actually "read the manual" too.

Jim Muchow - Idle Speculation 'R Us

Newsgroups: mn.general
From: jfw@technix.mn.org (Jerry Wallace)
Subject: Re: WorldBlazer PROMs shipping!
Organization: Private System - Saint Paul, MN
Distribution: mn
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:24:22 GMT

Derek E Terveer writes:

>I am not sure what you are trying to say here.  There is no register
>S500 that I know of on the WB.  Howver, if you mistyped and you really
>meant S50, that register controls the modulation speed and S50=2 is
>1200 baud, which is unacceptable for my applications and probably most
>other sites as well..  Perhaps you meant the protocol support register,
>S111 (=30) on the WB and TB+, which controls whether or not UUCP
>g-protocol spoofing is enabled?  This can drastically affect throughput
>if turned off.

The reference is probably to "hidden" registers ala S120 in the T2500.
S120 doesn't show when you display the settings until you actually set
it to some value and then it appears.  The WorldBlazer has the same
ability to change things but it's a bit more involved.  You have to
enter a debug mode, set the register and exit debug.  I've heard of a
few for the WB but didn't record what they affected.

>Furthermore, I am not terribly sanguine that the ability of the WB to
>connect to the TB+ is purely a function of PEP mode.
>
>Perhaps you could elaborate....?  I would like to be able to keep the
>same throughput and tell my feed sites what register to change that
>will allow my WB to connect to their TB+/etc without forcing them to
>get the new TB PROMs.

The new TB+ PROMs are perhaps a net gain - v.42/v.42bis is included in
the "fix".
-- 
Jerry Wallace                    TechNIX, Inc.
Electronic: jfw@technix.mn.org   103 Healy Building
  Acoustic: Installing           2301 Como Avenue
 Ballistic: Hah!                 Saint Paul, MN  55108
From: Erik@tdkt.kksys.com (Erik Jacobson)
Newsgroups: mn.general
Subject: E-mail connection in Faribault
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:55:56 GMT

I have a friend who would like a non-long distance e-mail connection.  This
friend lives in Faribault.  If you know of a company or a person that might be
willing to help us, any information would be appreciated.


 * Origin: Dark Knight's Table - N0SVX - Minnetonka, MN (1:282/31)
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From: djg@cray.com (Dennis Guldan)
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Summary: KJ104 Going Country -- Back to you
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:09:45 CDT

In article <8282@orbit.cts.com>, jduffin@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Joshua Duffin) writes:
> djg@cray.com (Dennis Guldan) writes:
> [communist/nazi/cuban conspiracy theories deleted]
> >
> >  GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF CRY BABIES.....
> >
> >  IF the station had enough listeners to make money doing what it was
> >doing it would not be changing. If there is one group to blame it is
> >the listeners... not the Cubans, Nazis, Communists or who ever you want
> >to blame it on. Accept the fact that the demographics for your type of
> >music can not support it's own station... grow up. If it did this
> >discussion would not be flowing.    So get yerself a pickme up, some
> >good boots and a old dog and leave the station where it is.....
> >COUNTRY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> Obviously there should have been smilies for the humor impaired.  Does that go
> with listening to country music?  But seriously, we know if enough people
> listened it wouldn't change.  It was a JOKE.
> 
> 
> inet: jduffin@pnet51.orb.mn.org            | My other account is a Porsche.
> uucp: {crash, tcnet}!orbit!pnet51!jduffin  |

    I agree...  But someone here at Cray, Gil I won't mention your name,
sent mail to several thousand Crayons complaining of the change. I just
push a different button if I don't like the music on the station, no big
deal. But sometimes it's fun to push the extremists over the cliff when
they are wailing... The post did not generate the head-banger responses
I expected, come on former 104 listeners don't give up the fight that easily.
But COUNTRY still RULES, least this time.


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From: osh@cray.com (O'Shaughnessy John)
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Organization: Cray Research, Inc, Mendota Heights, MN
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:39:48 CDT



They must be broadcasting from somewhere East of the Twin Cities.  I can pick
them up around Eau Claire when on 94.


-- 
-----
John M. O'Shaughnessy					osh@a00308.cray.com
Cray Research, Inc.	Voice: 612.683.7322		Fax: 612.683.7509
From: jduffin@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Joshua Duffin)
Newsgroups: mn.general
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:50:44 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

djg@cray.com (Dennis Guldan) writes:
[communist/nazi/cuban conspiracy theories deleted]
>
>  GOD WHAT A BUNCH OF CRY BABIES.....
>
>  IF the station had enough listeners to make money doing what it was
>doing it would not be changing. If there is one group to blame it is
>the listeners... not the Cubans, Nazis, Communists or who ever you want
>to blame it on. Accept the fact that the demographics for your type of
>music can not support it's own station... grow up. If it did this
>discussion would not be flowing.    So get yerself a pickme up, some
>good boots and a old dog and leave the station where it is.....
>COUNTRY RULES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Obviously there should have been smilies for the humor impaired.  Does that go
with listening to country music?  But seriously, we know if enough people
listened it wouldn't change.  It was a JOKE.


inet: jduffin@pnet51.orb.mn.org            | My other account is a Porsche.
uucp: {crash, tcnet}!orbit!pnet51!jduffin  |
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From: guy@ns.network.com (Guy D'Andrea)
Subject: WANTED: TOSHIBA T1000SE  ****************************
Organization: Network Systems Corporation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 20:18:41 GMT

Hi, I'm looking for an inexpensive low-end laptop and figured the T1000SE has
been so popular here that someone might have one for sale?  I'm looking at this
model because Toshiba has good support and it also comes with a 1.44Meg drive
while most low-ends come with only 720k drives.  Any leads to where I can pick
one up at a "reasonable" price would be greatly appreciated!

-Guy

 guy@nsco.network.com, Guy Dandrea, Network Systems Corp., Mpls. MN 55428,  USA 
                        1-800-328-9108  Fax:(612)424-1736 

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From: scott@pascal.geom.umn.edu (Scott S. Bertilson)
Subject: Re: Duplex for Rent in Minneapolis
Summary: also duplex for sale
Organization: Geometry Center, University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:40:31 GMT

  Our neighbors across the alley are selling their duplex.  It is
also quit beautiful with hardwood floors, beautiful woodwork,
a built-in buffet, and is also very close to Powderhorn Park.
Drop me a note if you'd like further information.
--
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From: jrc@brainiac.mn.org (Jeffrey Comstock)
Subject: Re: KJ104 Going Country -- What You Can Do
Organization: Sewer of Source Code
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 92 01:27:00 GMT

>Geez, whatta poop. And I suppose you actually "read the manual" too.

I *WROTE* the manual !  [ :-) ]

>Jim Muchow - Idle Speculation 'R Us
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Jeffrey R. Comstock 
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From: goldman@cray.com (Matthew D. Goldman)
Subject: How to get connected to MN.org?
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:18:08 CDT

I have a friend who would like to get connected to the 'net'
either uucp or via ip.  Who should they contact and about
how much would it cost them per month?

Reply to me and I'll pass the responses on.

Matt
goldman@orac.cray.com

-- 
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Fax: (612) 683-3099                 Work: (612) 683-3061
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