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From: dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Storm's Powers
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:33:54 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Sep29.103512.2779@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>Wasn't it hinted at in X-MEN VS. ALPHA FLIGHT #2 that Storm's powers
>might be magical in nature?  Did Claremont ever follow up on this?  I
>don't remember it if he did.  The only way they could be is if they
>had something to do with the "world-spirit" she called up in Africa.
>Comments?
>                                           -Drizzt
> 
>************************************************************************
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>BarneJD@WKUVX1.BITNET         "'Help, help, get me out of this coffin'?"
>                                                  -SPIDER-MAN 2099 #1
>My opinions are not necessarily those of WKU, but they should be!  :+)
>************************************************************************

Storm's weather powers is a result of her being a mutant.  She does come
from a long line of sorceresses and she has potential to become a sorceress.
If you look at the Magik mini-series you would see that Storm became a 
sorceress (ok, it was Storm from another time-line) and used it when her
mutan powers became more unstable as she got older.

When Ilyana and Dani were escaping from the Shadow King (Obese Karma) they went
into the past and met one of Storm's ancesstors.  I think her name was Ashake.
I don't know if this has been retconed, but Storm's White hair, blue eyes, and
other physical characteristics are not due to her being a mutant, but
the characteristics were that all of Storm's (only female?) ancesstors who were
magic users.  Ashake looked just like Storm and Dani and Illyana thought that
she was Storm for a second when they first met.

Patrick
From: CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Non-Mutants (was Re: Spiderman ...)
Date: 28 Sep 92 00:47:30 GMT
Organization: McGill University

In article <1992Sep27.064447.11662@news.columbia.edu> jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox) writes:
>In article <20SEP92.16406115.0161@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CXMP000 <CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA> writes:
>>Captain Britain is now, supposedly, a mutant.  (Originally, his powers
>>were supposed to have been given to him by Merlin.)  Certainly his
>>brother and sister are.
>
>  Are they?  I was under the impression that the Braddocks' powers
>came from their father being a native of Otherworld, not any mutation
>unique to the family...
>
Well, look at it this way: Psycloke has telepathic powers; Jamie has
reality altering powers; Brian displays neither.

I remember a looong time ago writing a letter to Marvel saying that
they were misleading readers by giving them the impression that
mutations were necessarily a good thing and that mankind's evolution
is independent of circumstances (i.e. that mankind evolving into homo
superior).  By this time, Marvel had already dropped hints that there
more to it than that: in X-Factor #14 (13?), the Master Mold discovers
that *all* humans carry a "mutant gene" (supposedly his "scanners" were
more thorough than that of his predecessors).  I speculated that they
were going to modify their definition of mutant from that of the
traditional one (random change in the genetic code which usually results
in death) to one where mutant powers arose in much the same way as birth
defects except that, in the Marvel Universe, humans have a mutant gene
that is triggered.  (I seem to recall reading in a Marvel Universe
article or two about the Kree performing experiments on pre-humans
which, somehow, resulted in mankind's potential to produce "mutants".)
It turned out that years later an "article written by Hank McCoy"
appeared in the Marvel Yearbook about mutations and Professor Xavier's
studies in the field.  That seems to be Marvel's final word on the
subject.  Did anyone else see that article?

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From: dmcclue@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Patrick McClue)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: General Ideas
Date: 29 Sep 92 01:27:19 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <20767@plains.NoDak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
>>X-Force without Cable and without Liefield is pretty good...16 was the only
>>Issue I didn't feel too bad about buying...
>
>GAH! You mean you bought 15 issues of a new series without even enjoying it?
>I mean, sure, I'm a bit irrational when it comes to my old Spidey and X-Men
>habits, but I've been buying them for, like, decades.
>
>Whoo! No flames, here, it's your money. Just trying to comprehend the new
>breed of comics buyer, tha's all.
>-- 
>David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - CTHULHU in '92! Why vote for LESSER evils?
>For Kate is a jealous God, and requires sacrifice./What was your question?--K
>"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
>dhenry@plains.nodak.edu * ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet * ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu

Maybe I should have made myself more clear.  I have only bought one issue of
X-Force...the first one.  That was a mistake and I never bought one again
until the recent issue.  I did look at it in the store (after all, one can't
rag about a book without knowing what to rag on).  I bought the new issue
and for the first time, I enjoyed X-Force.  Now if Cable leaves the team and
Ferral dies and Liefield or Simomson never return, then I might *think* about
buying it on a regular basis.

Fabian Nicienza isn't that bad a writer..I did like some of his PsiForce (NewU)
issues and the New Warriors aren't that bad.  I think he could recapture some
of the magic that the New Mutants had.

Patrick
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Excalibur question
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:31:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.21001
Distribution: na
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>Nnnnnnoooooooo!!!!!!!!  Obscure Trivia Lad can't believe it!  They
>brought *Darkoth* back?  Why?  Why?  WhyWhyWhyWhyWhy?

Why ask why? :-)

>Okay, calm down, Obscure Trivia Lad.  Obscure Trivia Lad thought the
>art on "Promethium Exchange" was so bad, that Obscure Trivia Lad
>didn't read those issues.  Maybe it wasn't Darkoth.  Please, someone
>say it wasn't really Darkoth!  Please say that Marvel would leave
>this obscure character dead!  Or is that asking for too much?

So sorry to bring the news, Obscure Trivia Lad, but it was true.
Darkoth the Destroyer was, indeed, dancing around in the pages of
Excalibur, in the storyline that reaffirmed my belief not to buy the title
until Davis returned to it. What made it even worse was it had Dr. Doom, a
character I like, y'know, really really like, guys, and it was really galling
to be turned away from a Doom story. (Heck, I even got the Doom appearances
in Cloak & Dagger's last series... well, one of their last series).

>Obscure Trivia Lad, wondering who else will be brough back from the dead

Dave's Checkbook of Emptying, with any hope.

>:)

-- 
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"Boy, do I love PLASTIC!" -- TJ Teru // What was your question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
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From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Subject: Re: Ideas to help the mutants (was: Re: X-cutioner's Song)
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:31:16 GMT

In article <06OCT92.15498278.0089@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXMP) writes:
>>13.  Restore the Magneto characterization
>
>I don't think CC's Magneto characterisation has changed that much over
>the years.  We've yet to see how Fabian will handle him.

Hold it!  Have they given any indication that Magneto is comin back at
all?  If they have it must have been pretty stuble because I missed it
completely.

August Paul Yang is just waiting for Marvel to turn Magneto into an
electromagnetic elemental.  Oops!  Wrong Company!
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
From: dv52151@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (SilverFang Ahroun)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Logan and Shatterstar
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:36:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

wbeakley@dante.nmsu.edu (BEAKLEY) writes:

>OH C'MON....tell me you didn't enjoy seeing that arrogant little bitch
>get slapped around?!  Boom-Boom has been asking for a good take down
>for ages now!  She's always been too cocky and too self-assured of her
>powers.  It's about time she got whomped!  My only complaint is that it
>hasn't come sooner (but with Robbie doing plots, what do you expect?!)

No, not really. I mean, Boom-Boom, at least in my opinion, is a cool
character because her powers aren't that great. I get very bored with
the walking tanks in the X-Men.

>->OH, and from above:
>->
>->c) Cable would get real pissed and kill his dumb butt. Hmm.
>->Telekinetic powers and firearms.. Mentally hold up one snarling,
>->grunting psycho and add lead to season. A recipe for a better 
>->Marvel universe.
>-
>-Feh.  I would much prefer to see them turn him back into a decent character.
>-Saves money on reloads.

>Also saves money on cleaning up afterwards.  I think an all-out fight
>between Cable and Wolverine would probably end up trashing every large
>city within a 50 mile radius (this IS Marvel after all).  But if they
>had the right people doing the plot (Claremont), a decent penciller
>(Capullo did OK with X-Force 16), and if they banished Tom DeFalco
>and Bob Harris from the Marvel building while they did it, it might 
>turn out OK.

Umm..any fight between a telekinetic and a nonmentalist is going to
be rather simple. Wolverine wouldn't be able to do anything to Cable
or anyother TK based character, as they simply have the ability to
lift a person in the air. If your only means of locomotion is that
of your extremities, you become a "Target Balloon Mark I". 

Axly
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From: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au (Robi Karp)
Subject: BYE (for now !) Re: X-Men Danglers -- Robi, Where are You!?
Reply-To: robi@bacchus.esa.oz.au
Organization: Expert Solutions Australia
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:07:32 GMT

In article <20877@plains.NoDak.edu> dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu
(David Henry) writes:

: I tried email, but that bounced. Robi, you out there?

David, you know that you've got a flakey machine, mail to and from it
has been bouncing all over the planet :-)

OK, let's make this a public community service announcement.

I'm sorry I haven't posted an update to the XDL in a while, I've been
"on-site" for a while. That's what my company calls being in a dingy,
smelly, stuffy, hot room with shitty computers at the client's place.

Furthermore I got back to work only to discover that we are being
taken off the net for the time being. In Australia, companies are now
being made to pay for network connections. Now this may or may not be
a Good Thing, I'm not interested in political debates, the point is
that Expert Solutions Australia can't afford or justify the cost of
such a connection in these tough economic times, so it's goddbye from
me and it's goodbye from him. This disconnection will take place at
the end of this week, so if you want to mail me, I'm sure that you all
do, now might be the best time to send the mail.

I've left the XDL in Tom Galloway's lap, but I'm sure that he'll want
some help, after all, that's why I took it on in the first place.

It's been a lot of fun, and rest assured I'll be back here soon, so
don't mourn too much.

As Dave Allen used to say: "Goodnight and may your god go with you",

	- Robi
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From: v083lmh8@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Fred @ UB)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: NCCS & RS
Date: 4 Oct 92 22:36:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Everyone, remember how Ravhel always says that she's the eldest 
child of Scott and Jean?  Well, with Nathan in the picture, that can still be
true do to the fact that Nathan isn't Jean's son BUT Madelyne's son.  So,
Rachel can still be the oldest sibling of Jean and Scott's!!!  She may or may
not know about Nathan being born because of the fact that he was taken away.
So, all Jean has to do is get pregnant with Scott's child and BBBAAAMMM!!! 
Rachel is born!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What are your opinions, we'd like to know!

						The Man(A Loyal Fan)

Keep the Faith readers of the 'Children of the Atom'!
					-Fred @ UB
From: pjconley@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Pat J Conley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: listen up people
Date: 1 Oct 1992 15:13:57 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
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	here is my thought on the cureent state of marvel
	and the fanboys and this group....

	if you don't like it don't buy it instead of bitching
	about it

	you can get upon your soapbox and whine about Rob Liefield
	Bob Harris, Tom DeFalco, and so on, but i don't see any of
	you doing their jobs.
	maybe they cvame into a shit situation and tried to make the
	best of it
	mayber they are incompetent like you all seem to think, but are
	you doing their jobs...i didn't think so.

	until you are doing a job like theirs for as long as they have
	you have no right whatsoever to complain

	like i said before, if you don't like it don't buy

	bite me fanboy(s)

	love
	pat

-- 
	deep thoughts.....

		if it doesn't kill you it can only make you
		stronger....wrong!!!!
From: jwlr@escher.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Dangler #4953
Keywords: Wolverine Mariko
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:15:00 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Right after the Secret Wars (tm) I, Wolverine and Mariko
adopted Akiko, "to raise her as my own" in Logan's words.

Akiko was living with Mariko.

Mariko died.

Where is Akiko?

Shouldn't she be moving in with Wolvie?
I think it would do wonders for his (currently)
awful characterization to show him relating to
a child (not a Jubilee, a real, normal child).
I would like to see more of the kind, elder figure
that he used to be on the verge of becoming (lo those
many years ago....).

I would like to see more of the old Logan's-eye-view
as he teaches his 'daughter' the ways of the world.
I would not like to see pages and pages of angst about
Mariko is dead and everytime I see 'kiko it reminds me
how bad I feel because Mariko is dead....

Where is Akiko, now?
With Sunfire?
With Silver Samurai?

Any thoughts, people?

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
From: lewandow@floss.cs.wisc.edu (Gary Lewandowski [TSoD])
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: Attention, r.a.c.x.'ers
Keywords: Keep it down, folks!
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:06:26 GMT
Organization: GaTEA, Slug Division


I'd like to add one more comment about followups.  There's *no need* to
repost the .signature of the person you are following up.  Really.  We
read it the first time.  

Remember that some people are using slow modems, so all the extra text
gets very tiring.


-- 
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From: v083lmh8@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Fred @ UB)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Question for Nova
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:46:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	In what issue of what book doeas Beast say thet nifty quote of yours
unless you can post the whole thing.  Just interested.

						The Man (A Loyal Fan)

Keep the Faith readers of the 'Children of the Atom'!
					-Fred @ UB
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From: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Subject: Re: Non-Mutants (was Re: Spiderman ...)
Reply-To: jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 06:44:47 GMT

In article <20SEP92.16406115.0161@VM1.MCGILL.CA> CXMP000 <CXMP@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA> writes:
>Captain Britain is now, supposedly, a mutant.  (Originally, his powers
>were supposed to have been given to him by Merlin.)  Certainly his
>brother and sister are.

  Are they?  I was under the impression that the Braddocks' powers
came from their father being a native of Otherworld, not any mutation
unique to the family...

Jonathan Lennox
jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu
From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: FAVORITE X-VILAINS (was Re: Just a thought)
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:24:29 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>P.S.  I do like Apacolypse, but I think that Mr. Sinister is stupid.

I refuse to take anyone seriously who has that much alliteration in his name.

"My name is Mister Sinister."
"You're kidding, right?" -- Richard Darwin

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From: mk56+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michael J. Keating)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Fwd: Stryfe calls Scott and Jean "father" and "mother"!
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:41:50 GMT
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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: Pronunciation of Fabian Nicieza
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:28:03 GMT

In article <1abgn4INN2dc@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu> lazarus@vulcan.ksu.ksu.edu () writes:
>
>In article <Sep.28.21.27.15.1992.12470@dorm.rutgers.edu>, jgreene@dorm.rutgers.edu (Jeffrey Greene) writes:
>>How to pronounce "Nicieza": nee-see-eh-sa
>
>Okay... now say Sienkiewicz!  >:)
>
>--
Actually back when fabian was doing Psi-Force, a pronounciation guide was listed
in the letter page to help with all the Russian names.  The last entry was:

Nicieza ---- Sink-o-vic (or how ever it's pronounced)

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From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Re: X-Cutioner's Song
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:13:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.111843.2654@wkuvx1.bitnet> barnejd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>In article <92268.161504EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>, Ernie Oporto <EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>> And since Shatterstar is no longer among the
>> living, I find it doubtful that they'll be winning any battles soon.
>
>Oh c'mon, there's _no way_ he's dead.  This is the guy who stuck a
>sword through himself to ace an enemy in NM#100.  Do you _really_
>think they're going to off him, especially given Fabian's ideas for
>the future in X-FORCE Annual #1?  (Yeah, it's "alternate" but I think
>it's a pretty good idea of where he's headed).
>                                            -Drizzt
>

Besides he has a toy coming out.  Remember the LAW of Licensing:  If you 
can make a buck off of something, don't screw with it! (ie. why there is
a new Robin, why Gambit is not the traitor, Why Rogue will be)

>************************************************************************
>Jeff Barnes                   "Mike, if my father were alive today, you

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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: sorry guys he's not dead, not yet at least......
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:21:10 GMT
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Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

In article <1a9ivsINN774@uwm.edu> pjconley@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Pat J Conley) writes:
>	for the most part, i think wolverine understood shatterstar
>	and who he was and killing him was a bit out of character,
>	i could see it if shatterstar went after jubilee, but not 
>	now, not here

Earlier in that issue, Shatterstar said "A cadre warrior prefers death
to capture" (page 4) to Wolvie... if Logan's time in Japan taught him
anything about honor, he'd respect this wish and skewer 'Star.

Maybe we'll see next week whether the Marvel writers understand the
"Death Before Dishonor" concept, or if it was just a meaningless
battlecry.
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From: bd112@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Craig H. Rettig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.xbooks
Subject: Re: NCCS & RS
Date: 5 Oct 1992 14:30:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Remember that Rachel is from one of the many "Alternate" X-Men
futures.  Which brings up another question, How many of these
are there now?

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