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From: mac4@cec1.wustl.edu (Miguel Angel Cotignola)
Subject: Help
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:05:04 GMT

Newsgroups: rec.bicicles.marketplace
Subject: Help
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Keywords: 

Hello:

I am a student a Washington Univ. at St. Louis, we just created the W.U.
Mountain Bike and we are looking for a cool designg or picture for the shirts.
Therefore if you have a design or a picture or something else, please send to
me.  We cannot pay, because we have no money from school at for this year.  But
I promised if we choose something from what you send you will get at leat a
free shirt.

					Thank you very much
					Miguel

	address: Miguel A. Cotignola
		6515 Wydown Box 3777
		St. Louis, MO, 63105
From: mtaffe@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Michael Taffe)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: MTB Recommendations
Date: 6 Nov 92 18:32:05 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <f1VH02H129XR01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> jyk50@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com () writes:
>Finally, any comments on the Nashbar 7000X MTB?  This bike is currently
>on sale for $599.00.  It has an aluminum frame, CRO MO fork, Deore LX
>groupo, Vetta Lite saddle, and SPD clipless pedals.

As much as I usually like Nashbar deals, I have to say that this one is a
complete rip-off--"sale" price notwithstanding.  You should be able to get
'92 DX components on a comparable bike for $550 at this point in the year.
Also, if you read the fine print, the SPuD's are an option (I think) which
cost you extra.
From: ICDDM@ASUACAD.BITNET (Daryl Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: marzocchi xc100's
Date: 5 Nov 92 22:56:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: ASUACAD.92310.155644ICDDM
Organization: Arizona State University

This is a repost of my last announcement. PLEASE e-mail ME directly. I am
selling Marzocchi xc100's (1992) they were on a raliegh technium. Marzocchi's
have inter-changable steer tubes that can be purchased for aproximatley $20
at any shop that sell's the shocks. I am selling them for $225.00+shipping.
please reply to me at (ICDDM@ASUACAD.BITNET OR ICDDM@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU)
thank you in advance.
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From: falcon@camelot.bradley.edu (D. Nathan Hood)
Subject: Re: Carrying Bikes on Cars
Keywords: racks
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date:  8 Nov 92 00:53:26 GMT

In <1dfadtINNono@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> latornel@unixg.ubc.ca (Doug Latornell) writes:

>I'd like to poll the collective wisdom of the group on the subject of
>racks for carrying bikes on cars.

i have found that roof mounts are a pain, tend to scratch paint and if you
aren't dealing with $500 bikes that are lighter than anything getting the
bikes up on top of the car is a pain.  I personally use a Yakima fastback.
It fits most cars and carrys all types of bikes.  It holds on the wheels
rather than the frame so you don't have to worry about scratching the paint
on your bike and the wheels are held at the top and bottom so the bikes
don't swing and won't bang into eachother or the car.  I have found tha
fastback to be the best rack for me to use.  My bike has never been
scratched by being carried on the rack and the car hasn't been scratched
either...  just my $.02

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From: lele@lccinc.UUCP (Le Le)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace,rec.bicycles.tech
Subject: Sequoia bicycles
Keywords: Sequoia touring bike
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:53:29 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: LCC Inc., Arlington VA

I am in the market for a touring bicycle, and anxious to get
your opinions on a couples issues:

1. Has anyone owned, or heard of, the Specialized Sequoia
   touring bike? How does it perform its functions? I saw
   one on sale at Hudson Trail Outfitter for $509.00.  This
   particular model ('92?) comes equipped with RX-100, and
   loaded with front/rear rack, headlight and generator.
   The frame seems sturdy enough for loaded touring.  The
   700x38 Nimbus looks like they can take a beating. The
   paint job (brownish or burgundy (?)) looks attractive
   enough. Is this a bargain?  The only cheap things I saw
   were the pedals, which have plastic bodies!!

2. Is there anybody else making touring bikes (TREK,
   Cannondale, etc?).  If you are from the WashingtonDC
   area, which bike shops carry such bikes?  Any
   recommendation for a particular model? How much
   am I expected to pay for them?

3. What is the advantage of having bar-end shifters
   on touring bikes? Would I have problem shifting
   them good old downtube shifters on a loaded bike?

I plan to use this bike on long distance trips, and
will haul my tent, sleeping bag and such on the bike,
so comfort, weight, and durability are priorities.


Thanks for your valuable opinions.



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From: "Michael Smith" <p00004@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Dave Harvey Stands His Ground!
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 14:55:16 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

>DATE:   09 Nov 92 02:09:35 GMT
>FROM:   Dave Hill Harvey <dharvey@lemond.harvey.com>
>
>jbrandt@hplredHPL.HP.COM (Jobst Brandt) writes:
>
>%I never got much entertainment out of the old "Dave Harvey" series and
>%the new offering doesn't look much better.
>Therapy is right, you California girly-man. If I ever meet you on the upside
>of a hill, you will be begging your shrink to tell you you're still a man.
[etc.]

Stop! Stop! I laughed so hard at this that I think I may have done 
myself an injury. Anytime Dave wants to run for public office, he can be 
sure of my vote.

--Michael Smith

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From: mac4@cec1.wustl.edu (Miguel Angel Cotignola)
Subject: Computers - Help
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:36:42 GMT

Hello:

I got a Cannodale two month ago, a Delta V 900, with front shock.  Now I am
looking for computer for it. I do not want to spend a lot of money, but I would
like a good one.  People in the store where I bought the bike told me that They
did not know if a computer was going to work well in my bike.  So if anybody
knows anything about it please tell me.

					Thanks before hand
					Miguel 
					mac4@cec1.wustl.edu
 
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 1992 15:42:18 -0500 
From: Christopher Herbert Carroll <cc5i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: MTB:wheels,cogs,misc. NEEDED

I bought a Mountain bike frame/fork set and I have been shopping around
for components.  I have found many things already (thanks: Chris, Doug,
Claire...), but I am still looking for the following:
 
-front and rear hubs, 36 holes (rear CASETTE style prefered)
-cogs/freewheel (13 x 26T prefered)
-~80 spokes (14gauge prefered)
-2x MTB rims (extra strong and black prefered)
-rim tape, extra tubes, frame pump...
    ...if you have some of these things already built into a wheel
       I am still interested.
-MTB chain
-handlebar ends (alum., long L-bends w/o clamp type attachment prefered)
-Brake cable stuff (cable housing caps, cable end crimping caps, those
transperent plastic tubes that cover the exposed cable running over the
frame
-Cool Tool multi-tool
-Cateye halogen headlight
 
SPECIAL ITEM: Bolt and washer for shimano deo. XT rear derailer where
cable is attached. (PLEASE look through your random parts and pieces in 
your tool box, THANKS)
 
If you have any of these things, new or used, still in the package or
taken off your bike when you upgraded last, please contact me with a
list of parts and prices.  
 
Look around in your closet and see if there are any random bike parts
hiding in there and maybe you could turn them into CASH.
 
Thanks,  Chris
 
 
 

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From: jbr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Jarryl B. Ritchie)
Subject: Bicycle Wall Rack Plans
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:13:55 GMT

I have built myself a couple wall racks to hold bicycles up and out of the
way.  I liked the way they worked and the fact that they cost my about $10
in materials to build.  I have drawn up the plans and thinking about marketing
them to the bicycle world in general.  I am not sure that is worth my time and
money.  I will make them available here, however.

The plans are 5 five printed pages with illustrations and includes formulas 
that customize the rack to you living areas, and bicycle frame size.

I am offering these plans for $2.00.  This will cover my costs, time, and your 
shipping.

If you are interested
send $2.00 to:

Jay Ritchie
P.O. Box 786
MSU, MS  39762
From: jyk50@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: MTB recommendations
Date: 6 Nov 92 02:00:28 GMT
Reply-To: jyk50@QUTS.ccc.amdahl.com ()

Interested in comments on any of the following MTBs:

  Raleigh Chill
  Norco Pinnacle
  Mt Shasta Tempest
  Trek 950
  Mongoose IBOC Comp
  Performance Tangent

Thanks, in advance.
From: 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Used Suspension Shocks
Date: 12 Nov 1992 06:25:24 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts4.ebay.sun.com

I am looking for any good used suspension forks. I am willing to buy rock shox,
manitou, scott shocks. I any is intrested in selling shocks please email me at my address and I am looking for dx cranks with rear derailer for sale for a good
price.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: praetzel@maxwell.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Praetzel)
Subject: New Klein Catalog is out ==> 2.7lb 55cm frame
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 11:45:23 GMT

I just got the new Klein catalog.  My Quantum frame is being relegated to
touring bike status and they have introduced a new Quantum II that weighs
in at 2.7lb for a 55cm frame.  The tubes are tapered, butted and oversized
a bit more.  One of the MTBs even comes with a 2" downtube now.  Now that
steel has struggled downto 4.1 lb it has a tougher battle ahead of it.

  Paint jobs look great (_bright_) and there are a few interesting words
sprinkled thruout the catalog. ie
 ' The road hates you,
   The weather hates you,
   The guy behind you hates you,
   You only have one friend.'

In the MTB catagory, front shocks are an option and Klein now has a sort of
flex-stem.  I did not see any rear suspensions, disc brakes or fancy cutting
edge stuff.  Gary seems to be a conservative, progressive.
  Weights were strange.  Some MTBs were listed at 23.6 lb (upto 25lb) while
a complete Quantum II weighed in at 21.5 lb!  That is pretty strange
considering that my 0.9lb heavier frame weighs in at 20.6lb.  They must have
thrown in some bottle cages, computer and filled a bottle.
  Gary seems to be getting back into Boron fiber and epoxy reinforcement.  In
his older custom frames he used to reinforce joints with Boron fiber.  My bet
is that is was mostly cosmetic (like the Specialized M2) since the current
frames are lighter and don't seem any worse for the lack of it.  If you want
to spend $3200 on a MTB you can now have your Boron and eat it too.
   - Eric
From: 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Mountain Bikes for Sale
Date: 12 Nov 1992 02:29:12 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: 49ers@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Renie Maycon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts4.ebay.sun.com

Is any willing to sell parts for my mountain bike

I am looking for a rear derailer DX or LX

Crank DX, LX, XT, 

Rims

Tires


If any one has these parts please contact me.

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From: lehman@csed-11 (Dan Lehman)
Subject: Re: Carrying Bikes on Cars
Organization: IDA, Alexandria, VA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 05:24:46 GMT

   On bike racks, some summation of points raised over the course of many
threads:

1) Yakima's round bars are stronger ...

	yes, perhaps:  but does it matter, or are others strong enough!

2) Yakima racks are more $$$

	generally, I think so; but particular sales/deals affect this

3) ease of attachment

	to Scott, who said "goes on in less than a minute", "Wow, REALLY ...?"

	Ease of installation is varies with the particular attachments that
	YOUR car requires, and perhaps also how careful you want to be (if
	you don't want to later recount the fateful day when your rack full
	of yours and friends' bikes hitched a ride with the trailing semi...)
	I described Thule's gutterless mounts as problematic; a respondent
	said that the same comments applied to his Yak rack.  Rain-gutter
	mounts seem much easier.

4) fit to car (how well...)

	This is another depends-on-exactly-which-car issue.  I noticed that
	the Thule literature boasts of good fits, and Yak's acknowledges that
	they have less-particular fits.  If the rack fits YOUR vehicle well,
	you don't care whether it does as well on others ...

4) wind noise--Yaks have a surprisling LOT; my Thule, very little; is this
	due to round (loud?) vs. retangular (quiet) bars, or the towers?

5) rear racks are second rate...

	Hmmm, there have been a couple of respondents who've praised the Yak
	(and some other, I think) rear racks.  They've got to be MUCH cheaper,
	and mounting bikes will be easier (and you can lend them to another
	vehicle more readily, say to augment a friend's roof-mounted capacity).

6) corrosion resistance and quality of components

	Someone said that Yaks were better in this regard.  My Thule shows
	no signs of deterioration after a year, but ...

7)  method of attaching bikes (by fork, or downtube clamp, or upside-down)

	I have the cheapest Thule bike racks, which use a downtube clamp;
	this can scratch paint (but one can use padding--foam/cloth, eg),
	and is not all that secure (it's easy to see bike sway).  I think
	that the fork mount is much more secure, faster, and easier; but
	you have to put the front wheel(s) somewhere.  Richard's "lot of play"
	in his fork mount sounds like a bum item; in general (what I've seen)
	there is no play.  (I'm considering buying fork mounts from REI and
	building an attachment for my roof rack.)  I actually tie my bikes
	down with rope for any long trips (makes me feel better, anyway).

---Dan
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From: lars@craycos.com (Ron Larson)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Ergo shifter info wanted
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:59:38 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

I am interested in upgrading my Campy indexed shifiting to include an
Ergo shifter for the rear derailleur.  I would probably retain the
front frcition shifter because I expect I would want a friction shifter
to fine tune on the chainrings.  This leads to two questions.

Are the two Ergo shifters in a pair identical? Is the only difference
between them an insert such as is in the Campy index shifters to
control the shifting or are their other characteristics/attributes that
make one lever a "left/front" and one lever a "right/rear"?

If levers are identical, anyone interested in splitting a pair? Seems a
waste to buy a pair and have one gather dust...

Post or e-mail.

lars
-- 
Ron Larson                       |   If pro is the opposite of con,
Cray Computer Corporation        |   what is the opposite of progress??
lars@craycos.com  (719)-540-4232 |              Frank & Ernest
From: r.g.olsen@att.com (Ron Olsen)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Re: Specialized M-2
Keywords: great bike!
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:02:41 GMT
Reply-To: r.g.olsen@att.com
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Denver CO

Renie Maycon writes:

> I am planning on buying a Specialized M-2 and I was wondering if any one can
> tell me about the bike. what kind of frame is it what are the best components
> to buy it with.

I have a Specialized M2 and I really like it.
The frame is made of a new aluminum alloy called
metal matrix composite (MMC).  It is light, strong,
and shock absorbing.  I have a 21.5" frame (the biggest they make),
and it weighs 4.5 lbs.  Smaller frames should weight about 4 lbs. even.

The '92 models are available with Shimano Deore DX and XT,
and SunTour Microdrive components; I don't know about the '93 models.
Some models come with a Specialized FutureShock suspension fork.

Another alternative is to buy the frameset
(frame, rigid fork, headset, bottom bracket, seatpost, seatpost QR)
for $800, and build the bike yourself; this is what I did.
I am using an XT drive train and it works just fine.

> how do you compare the ride to other bikes.

The ride is a lot smoother than with my old '89 Stumpjumper Comp,
which had a stiff cromoly frame.  The M2 frame is also 2 lbs.
lighter than my old Stumpjumper!  The bike handles well on
tight singletrack, rough jeep-road descents, and climbs
well also.

> Can any body tell me what are the best suspension shocks for a mountain bike

There are lots of good ones on the market, and new ones coming out
every month.  I've got a '92 Manitou and have been happy with it.
The '93 Manitou 2 elastomer fork has adjustable preload, reduced weight,
and a stiffer fork brace than the '92 model.
The new Rock Shox Quadra (also an elastomer fork) has gotten good reviews,
costs less, and is lighter than the Manitou.
The Tange Shockblades (elastomer fork) got a good review in one magazine,
but Mountain Bike Action felt it didn't have enough travel,
and recommended modifying the fork to increase travel.

> what is your opinion on the Scott Shocks spring controlled, is it worth it
> or should I spend 300+ on a oil-air shock.

I'd stay away from the '92 and earlier Scotts; too much pogo-stick
effect.  Scott has redesigned the fork for '93 to improve damping;
the new model might be worth a look.

Oil-air shocks have great performance on large bumps and
lots of adjustability,
at the cost of more involved maintenance and possibly lower
reliability than elastomer shocks.  The '93
Rock Shox oil/air shocks are supposed to be better
at small bumps than the earlier models.

There are so many new suspension forks on the market,
using different technologies, that it's hard to
make a judgment based on last year's models.
I'd keep current by reading Mountain Bike Action
or Mountain Biking to see what's available and how
it performs.

	Ron Olsen
	Boulder, Colorado
	r.g.olsen@att.com
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From: wilde@cs.colorado.edu (Nick Wilde)
Subject: Re: Carrying Bikes on Cars
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Organization: Just enough to get by...
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:40:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.214751.22832@dsd.es.com>, rpimente@es.com (Richard
Pimentel) wrote:
> 
> 	3. Yakima does not sell replacement parts for the rack or the 
> 	   attachments. (At least none of the retailers here in Salt Lake
> 	   City do.) Lose or break a lock? Tough luck! You have to buy
> 	   a package of four. Want to buy a long tray to rplace your short
> 	   one? Tough! You have to buy the whole mounting system.

Nah, they give 'em away instead.

I lost two pieces to my Yakima rack: one of the plastic "wing
nuts" that hold the various attachments in place, and one of
the cylindrical bolts that holds the lock cylinder in place and
prevents it from turning.

I wrote a letter to Yakima explaining what I had lost and asking
about replacement parts. Within two weeks, I received a package 
in the mail with the replacement parts in it - no charge.

-Nick

------------------------------------------------------------------
      Nick Wilde         |  "The truth is rarely pure and
 wilde@cs.colorado.edu   |          never simple"  - Oscar Wilde
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
From: cadyj@woods.ulowell.edu
Subject: For Sale:50cm Trek 2500
Organization: University of Lowell
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:39:41 GMT





     For Sale: Trek 2500 7 tube carbon.  I rode it for one year and now I
need money for a new mtn bike.  It is a 50cm and has the same geometry as
the 2100 and 2300.  I was looking to get $550bo. If you want so more info
e-mail me at cadyj@woods.ulowell.edu.


joe cady

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From: mjohnsto@jenny.shearson.com (Mike Johnston)
Subject: Re: Dave Harvey Stands His Ground!
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:59:55 GMT

In article <22.1992.LID@lemond.harvey.com> dharvey@lemond.harvey.com (Dave "Hill" Harvey) writes:


Dave Harvey: Champion of Oppressed Cyclists Everywhere. Way to go!

MJ
--
Michael R. Johnston, System Administrator	mjohnsto@shearson.com
"The reasonable man adapts himself to the world; the unreasonable one
persists in trying to adapt the world to himself. Therefore, all progress
depends on the unreasonable man." - G.B. Shaw
From: latornel@unixg.ubc.ca (Doug Latornell)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Subject: Carrying Bikes on Cars
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.marketplace
Date: 7 Nov 1992 02:42:05 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Summary: Seeking opinions/recommendations on car racks
Keywords: racks

I'd like to poll the collective wisdom of the group on the subject of
racks for carrying bikes on cars.

We currently use a trunk-mount rack to carry our road touring bikes
(mine is a 25in frame and my wife's is 21in).  The short roof line of
our old car (an '84 Pontiac Fiero) precluded any sort of roof rack.
Recently we replaced the Fiero with a '92 VW Golf and are considering
switching to roof racks to carry the bikes.  My questions to you are:

	1) Are roof racks in fact a better way of carrying bikes or
           should we just stick to the trunk rack mounted on the
           Golf's hatchback?

	2) Assuming roof racks are the way to go, what are the merits
           of forks down vs. upright mounting mechanisms for carrying
           road bikes?  What about for mountain bikes?

	3) From advertising, etc. I have identified 3 popular roof
           rack brands: Terzo, Thule, and Yakima.  What is your
           opinion of these brands?  Are there other makes worth
           looking for?

Thanks for your help, opinions and recommendations.  I see that there
is nothing on this subject in the FAQ.  If I can pull together any
sort of consensus from responses I'd be happy to submit a piece for
the FAQ.
-- 
                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Doug Latornell                                          <latornel@unixg.ubc.ca>
CAM/Robotics Lab --- Mech. Eng. Dept.	         University of British Columbia
                         Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
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