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From: dagnallr@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (robert a dagnall )
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Old pen - date?
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:08:20 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson

I have received an old quill-type pen (like a fountain pen, but without
the ink reservoir) as a Christmas gift, and I'd like to know if someone
can date it for me.

It was owned by someone three generations older than myself, if that's any
help.

The cardstock box it comes in reads: "The SENGBUSCH HANDI-PEN", and
advertises that it has a "hardened tip, known as 'iridium tip'- gold plated".

The directions inside say that this pen was "manufactured by Sengbusch Self-
Closing Inkstand Company, Milwaukee 3, Wisconsin, U.S.A."

The body of the pen appears to be made of plastic or some kind of shiny,
stiff rubber.  

If you have any further questions about the pen, please email me 
and ask; otherwise, best guess, anyone?


Thanks in advance,

Robert Dagnall
dagnallr@gas.uug.arizona.edu

--
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EMAIL dagnallr@gas.uug.arizona.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: schutt@netcom.com (David G. Schutt)
Subject: Re: Old Radios
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:52:56 GMT

The man in Santa Clara who repairs old radios is
Jim Cirner (408) 296-0860.
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com (Joe Sterbenc)
Subject: Anyone have a hickory switch?
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:56:30 GMT
Followup-To: rec.antiques

Howdy.

My friend just graduated from college with her teacher's degree. She's
going to be molding innocent kids' minds full-time now, and I thought a
cool graduation present would be a hickory
switch - to instill proper respect from the chillun and her
boyfriend both. I can't find one anywhere, though. If anybody
could give me a good lead, I'd be most grateful....

=====
Joe Sterbenc - Intelligent Vehicle Highway Systems - Motorola
All opinions are my own, but can be rented for reasonable rates
sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com
=====
From: myron@sharebase.com (Myron Seastrom)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Old Radios
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:05:02 GMT
Organization: NCR/ShareBase Corporation


 I have recently aquired an 1938 Zenith console Radio Model 6S254.
 Does anyone have a source for replacement electronic components?
 Is there any one in the SF Bay area who refurbs radio electronics.

 Is this radio worth the $$ it takes to restore it? I estimate
 at least $300 with parts & labor.


 Thanks for any Info.
From: rrw@.cse.nau.edu (Bob Wier)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Swap meet/flea mkts in TX?
Date: 1 Jan 93 21:55:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff AZ
Originator: rrw@sunset.cse.nau.edu

Sorry to post this nationwide, but I have no way of limiting
distribution to Tx when I'm posting from Arizona...

I'll shortly be changing jobs and moving to East Texas
(after 7 months of looking - it's a BAD time to be laid off :-(

Anyway, I'm looking for suggestions on antique shops/flea markets
in the North Central / East / Central Texas area.  It seems to me
that I've heard about pretty intense antique / flea market
activity in the Forney (east of Dallas) and Marlin Tx areas.
Supposedly one of the largest flea markets in the US occurs
somewhere in that area (approximately in a region bounded by
Fort Worth / Marshall / Austin triangle). I look mostly for paper
epherema / photos but occasionally also go for furniture.
Also, I may be looking for something MUCH larger (like a house to
restore) in the Commerce / Greenville area.

I'd appreciate any hints dropped to me via E Mail or posted.

THANKS


- Bob Wier

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                   College of Engineering
      Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff Arizona
  Internet: rrw@naucse.cse.nau.edu | WB5KXH | fax:602 523 2300
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: dgg@llcn2.jhuapl.edu (Dave Gawron)
Subject: Melmac dinnerware.
Keywords: Melmac, dinnerware
Organization: Johns Hopkins University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 22:55:52 GMT

This is one for you Alf fans out there. ;-)

Over the Christmas holiday I found a few pieces of hard plastic dinnerware
hidden in the cellar of my parents house.  Mom called them Melmac and said
they were given away by stores when you bought a certain amount of
something.  She thinks the pieces were obtained in the late 40's or 50's.
I'd like to learn more about Melmac and confirm or deny that the pieces I
have are actually what is known as Melmac.  If they aren't, then I'd love to
id these pieces.  If any of you can direct me to some references on this
type of dinnerware, then I'd be very grateful.

I left most of the pieces home, but did bring back a sugar bowl and creamer.
These piece aren't the cheese-ball items usually refered to as Melmac.  For
one, they have great lines and are well proportioned.  The sugar bowl is
elongated with two handles on either side.  It's black with a speckling of
white.  The creamer is red with white speckling.  The gravy boat I found is a
real wonder.  It has three pouring spouts: one for left handers, one for
right handers, and a center spout.  It's white with gray speckles.

Thanks.


-Dave-
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: L689577@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: old music boxes and talking machines
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 15:38:07 PST

im interested in buying old disk or cylinder music boxes or
talking machines that are in reasonably good working condition.

call mark @ 408-742-2517 between 8:00 am and 4:00 pm
From: jeff_roberts@esciqm.es.llnl.gov (Jeff Roberts)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Electric Clock
Date: 1 Jan 93 19:03:17 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

My wife and I have an 'old' (1940's?) electric clock, General Electric 
Westminster Chime, that needs a new motor.  The existing motor will run 
for a couple minutes, then stop.  I have tried to lubricate the motor, but 
this does not seem to help.  Does anyone know where to look for 
replacement motors?  Specifics: model 416; motor type B3, 59M31.  This 
clock has more sentimental value than anything else, but we are also 
interested in its value.  Thanks to anyone who can help.


Jeff Roberts        
(jeff_roberts@esciqm.es.llnl.gov)
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
P.O. Box 808  L-365
Livermore, CA 94551-0808
From: CS.LRM@forsythe.stanford.edu (Luis Mejia)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: VARGA for sale
Date: 23 Dec 1992 08:59:34 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

VARGA for sale

Title: FIRST LOVE
Medium: 14 color continuous tone lithograph
Edition No.: 39/200
Year 1986

Replacement Value: $12,000
Asking Price: $9,750

"First Love" was the first Varga Girl published in Esquire in
October 1940.  Esquire Varga Girls accompanied G.I.'s in battle in
WWII.  Original painting courtesy of the Esquire Collection, Spencer
Museum of Art, The University of Kansas.

For Certificate of Authenticity and additional information call:

Ruben Mejia
(916) 573-1610
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 31 Dec 1992 00:07:49 CST
From: <U35162@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: Old Radios

In article <1992Dec29.010502.11208@sharebase.com>, myron@sharebase.com (Myron
Seastrom) says:
>
> I have recently aquired an 1938 Zenith console Radio Model 6S254.
> Does anyone have a source for replacement electronic components?
>
> Is this radio worth the $$ it takes to restore it? I estimate
> at least $300 with parts & labor.
>
The Collector's Guide to Antique Radios (2nd ed., Marty and Sue Bunis)
lists this radio at $225.00 (with the usual caveat about price
variability, heavy dependence on condition, etc.)
For replacement parts try Antique Electronic Supply, P.O. Box 27468,
Tempe, AZ 85285-7468, (602) 820-5411. For $2.00 they'll send you a
catalog.

Aaron S. Field
University of Illinois at Chicago
U35162@uicvm.uic.edu
From: sibu@cse.unl.edu (Sibabrata Ray)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Coin
Date: 21 Dec 1992 23:19:30 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cse.unl.edu


I have coin of one of the mughal emperors. It is in excellent condition.
Can anybody suggest me how valuable it may be?

sibu
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
From: RYNA10@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Jay Kopycinski)
Subject: WANTED: IRIS & HERRINGBONE GLASSWARE
Organization: Motorola
Date: 22 Dec 1992 08:10:33 MST

AM LOOKING FOR DEPRESSION GLASSWARE IN THE IRIS & HERRINGBONE PATTERN.
IF YOU HAVE SOME FOR SALE.....PLEASE POST ME YOUR TELEPHONE NUMBER AS
I DO NOT HAVE E-MAIL CAPABILITY.......THANKS.......Jay
From: chipc@dsinet (Chip Colby)
Newsgroups: rec.antiques
Subject: Re: request info on old watch
Date: 1 Jan 93 17:31:20 GMT
Organization: Digital Systems International, Inc.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

U35162@uicvm.uic.edu wrote:
: I just found an old watch that belonged to my father, who
: wore it until he died in 1968. I thought someone out there
: might be able to tell me something about it. It has a plain
: whitish face with the markings "Hamilton", "automatic", and
: "swiss". The back is marked with "Hamilton" and "14 Kt gold".
: Any info on the watch or the maker would be appreciated.
: 
: Aaron S. Field
: University of Illinois at Chicago
: U35162@uicvm.uic.edu

	Well, your watch is a Hamilton, just as it says.  Unfortunately,
	it is not an American made Hamilton, since it says Swiss.  However,
	Haminton made some of the finest watches ever produced, and even
	the swiss ones were pretty nice. 

	Hamilton began making watches back in the late 1800's (1892 to be
	exact), and while many other companies were in existance at this
	time, it is interesting to note that Hamilton is the only one
	that is still in business.  They are still located in Lancaster
	PA, and still produce watches, many of them being reproductions
	of watches made in their glory days.  Hamilton made some of the
	best Railroad Pocket watches available in their day, and these
	watches were generally favorites with Railroad employees because
	of their quality. I wear a Hamilton pocket watch every day. 

	As for your watch, the fact that it is in a 14k case means that
	someone paid a fair amount for the watch when it was sold in the
	late 1950's or early 1960's.  Hamilton's swiss made automatic
	movements are not as special as the American made ones, but they
	are still favorites of many collectors, and when properly 
	maintained, can run just as reliabily as any quartz watch.  I'd
	say you have a fine watch.

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From: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bob Sloane)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Info on Vegas travel wanted.
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:09:16 GMT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Hi All,

On a whim, I was thinking about visiting Las Vegas the week of January
4th. Does anyone have any information on cheap air fares, lodging, etc?
-- 
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E-mail: sloane@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu, sloane@ukanvax.bitnet, AT&T: (913)864-0444
From: mweiss@mis.mi04.zds.com (Mitchell Weiss)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Ceasers in Palm Springs?
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:09:12 GMT
Organization: Zenith Data Systems

In article <F1R1VB1w165w@netlink.cts.com> yb@netlink.cts.com (Scott Mitchell) writes:
>I've heard rumors of Ceasers starting up a casino in Palm Springs, that 
>includes slots!  Does anybody know if this is true or not, and if so, 
>what are the chances of the reservations setting them up?  Thanks!!!

While I was in Las Vegas for COMDEX, the local paper had an article that said
that Ceasers has signed an agreement with an Indian tribe to set up a 
casino.  That's all I remember.

------------
Mitchell Weiss
mweiss@mis.mi04.zds.com
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From: bobk@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Bob)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Turning $96 into $70,000
Date: 2 Jan 1993 23:24:47 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: gibdo.engr.washington.edu

In article <1015@rc1.vub.ac.be> rdictus@vnet3.vub.ac.be (Roy Dictus) writes:
>You would buy a Joker '88 certificate for around $32. On this certi-
>ficate are seven names: the name of the person who sold you the certi-
>ficate (on the seventh position), the name of the person who sold it
>to him/her (on the sixth), and so on.  You would pay, by bank, $32 to
>the person on position 1 (his bank account number is printed there,
>too).  The third $32 goes to the German company who organizes and con-
>trols the system.  In return for your proof of payment to Person #1
>and your $32, they will send you 3 certificates to sell on -- for $32
>each.  So your investment is returned as soon as you are able to sell
>these three certificates.  Your clients will in turn sell 3 each, their
>clients will each sell 3, and so forth.  In the end run, seven genera-
>tions later, 3x3x3x3x3x3x3 = 2,187 people will pay you (since you're
>#1 now) $32 each, for a total of $69,984.

  This is an old pyramid con.  It is illegal and enforced pretty
  vigorously.  If it's not too late, you'd better turn yourself in
  to the proper authorities and hope they let you off if you profess
  ignorance.

  Even if it were legal, it should only work on morons.  Why would 
  anyone ever want to buy one of these lists when they can always
  start one themselves?  Just get the names and bank numbers of
  your friends and family and put them on a list.  Make a few hundred
  copies of the list and sell as many of them to as many suckers as
  you can find.
  ==

  Bob                                           Seattle, Washington
From: mannys@thebookstore.Eng.Sun.COM (Manuel 'Manny' Raposa)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Re: Software review: Stanford Wong's Video
Date: 21 Dec 1992 16:24:58 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mannys@thebookstore.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: thebookstore

	Steve Jacobs writes:

>Go for it.  However, be warned that it can be difficult to interpret
>the results of VP simulation because the game has a very high variance.
>This simply means that the results will vary a *lot* from one simulation
>to the next, because the occasional royal flush has a huge influence on
>the outcome.


	Very true.  I don't recall if I mentioned it, but the Wong VP tries
to compensate for this.  There is an explanation in the manual, but in essence
it states that the Royal Flush, and the straight flush as well, tend to
cause large fluctuations.  Therefore during the analysis of a particular game,
the software scans for and disregards any royal or straight flushes in the
X number of hands you requested it to run during the simulation.  It then takes
the true and correct odds for each of these hands, mulitplies that times the
payout schedule, then averages the whole thing out and adds some miniscule
portion of the payout to the total $$$ won in the simulation for each hand
simulated.

	That's a pretty brief explanation and possibly inaccurate as well, but
I hope you get the picture.


		Manny

---
* Manuel J. Raposa         |  I've been to two zoos,                    *
* manuel.raposa@Eng.Sun.Com|                and a county fair,          * 
* Sun Microsystems, Inc.   |  and I ain't NEVER seen nothing like this! * 
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From: asymptot@sbe (Mike Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: Sports betting in California?
Date: 31 Dec 92 18:36:00 GMT
Organization: School of Business, California State University, Hayward

Hello all:

I apologize if this a FAQ.  

I recently moved to the state of California (USA) and am wondering if
there is any way I can place bets on sporting events.  I would be willing   
to open a bank account in Nevada if this is the only way possible, but I
was hoping for something simpler.

Any help at all (including comments, thoughts, legal references, etc.)
would be *greatly* appreciated. 

Thanks in advance,
Mike Mathews
mmathews@sbe.csuhayward.edu
   
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers)
Subject: Re: Turning $96 into $70,000
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:26:19 GMT

In article <1015@rc1.vub.ac.be> rdictus@vnet3.vub.ac.be (Roy Dictus) writes:

>This is not a gamble, really.  

So why are you posting here, you cretin?

>If you would be interested in turning
>$96 of your money into $68,000 (and not just once but as many times
>as you'd like), drop me a line for details.

This is illegal, immoral and in poor taste.  I truly hope this costs
you your posting privileges.  As for you, I wish we could tie you
spread-eagled and administer good, swift kicks to your gonads until
you change your attitude.

It's really amazing what some people will do for money.  Too bad this
jerk wasn't born with a body he could rent out.
-- 
Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984
SoftHelp                                           |  Work:  408 996 1965
Software Solutions for Open Systems                |  Data:  408 996 1974
From: an2052@anon.penet.fi
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: server
Date: 24 Dec 92 21:37:00 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: rec.gambling


Is there a server that one can enter messages to a newsgroup via
internet mail similar to this anonymous server but that will post
your address?  Currently, the system I'm using has an problem that
the system administrator can't find where messages come in in the
newsgroups but don't go out (although direct mail goes out).  So,
until the problem is fixed, if there was a server where I could
send mail to

rec.gambling@server.address

and it would enter the message from me to the usenet, it  would be
great.

Reply in the usenet or reply to the anon address and I'll get the
message.

Thanks
             
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From: greg@redeye.EBay.Sun.COM (greg)
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
Subject: California Aces
Date: 22 Dec 1992 05:18:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: redeye.ebay.sun.com



Has anyone out there heard of California Aces?  I just read
about it in the newspaper.  It is a game similar to Blackjack,
except the ideal hand is 22.  You can't bust if you go over 
22, meaning that you could win with 23.  Apparently, the 
inventor of the game modifidied the rules of Blackjack so
it's legal in California.

According to the article I read, it's only being played at
Garden City in San Jose.  It cost's one dollar a hand to sit
at the table and table limits are $10-$100.

I am just wondering if anyone out there has tried it and 
what you thought of it.  Before I go spend my money to try 
and learn it at the tables.

Greg

Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: weinstoc@sei.cmu.edu (Chuck Weinstock)
Subject: Good Rules in Chicago
Reply-To: weinstoc@sei.cmu.edu (Chuck Weinstock)
Organization: Software Engineering Institute, Pittsburgh, PA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:18:23 EST


During my recent visit to my folks in the Chicago area I came across some
information about local "Las Vegas Nights".  These gambling events happen
virtually every night, somewhere in the Chicago area.  They are charity
events, with the profits going to the sponsoring organization.  The games I'm
describing are run by an organization called Rockford Casino Players.  They
make their money by renting equipment and operating the games for the
charitys.

You can buy-in for as much as you want but can only cash out for $200 more
than you bought in for (though there are obvious ways around this).  Bets are
limited to $10 maximum.  Most casino games are offered including blackjack,
craps, and roulette.  In addition, live poker is offered.

Here are some specifics:

Craps: single odds only.  All standard bets are offered.

Poker: Hold'em, Omaha and some stud games are offered.  Rake is 10% up to
       $5.00 which is quite steep.  House dealer.

Blackjack: single deck and shoe games.  Standard rules plus DOA, DAS, LSR.
       Limits: $3 to $10.  One catch: when you double down your total bet
       can't exceed $10 (that is, if you've already bet $10 on the hand
       you can't double down).  On the otherhand, split hands are considered
       separate hands, each of which can go up to $10.  Another catch: they
       don't have any 50 cent chips, so in order to get proper payoff on a
       blackjack, bets have to be even amounts.

Call Rockford Casino Players at 708-228-9021 for where games are being held.

Some interesting tidbits: on a given night the charity can expect to gross 30%
of the buy-in.  Buy-ins of $40,000 a night are not uncommon.  Poker is a big
money maker.  There is no house risk.  Craps is riskier than one would expect
for the house because of the $10 limit.  It tends to limit the wild action and
a good hand can really hurt the house.  The craps table occasionally loses
money and has to be shut down!  The operators aren't concerned about counters
(not surprising given the limits).  They've also started running poker
tournaments.

Chuck Weinstock				weinstock@sei.cmu.edu
Software Engineering Institute		(412) 268-7719
Carnegie Mellon University		(412) 268-5758 (Fax)
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
Newsgroups: rec.gambling
From: mikegins@microsoft.com (Michael Ginsberg)
Subject: Re: Turning $96 into $70,000
Date: 03 Jan 93 10:22:28 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa

In article <1993Jan3.033958.2927@panix.com> sethb@panix.com wrote:
> In article <1015@rc1.vub.ac.be> rdictus@vnet3.vub.ac.be
> (Roy Dictus) writes:
> >This is not a gamble, really.  If you would be interested in turning
> >$96 of your money into $68,000 (and not just once but as many times
> >as you'd like), drop me a line for details.
> 
> This is a gamble, really.  Will they throw you in jail or just
> confiscate all your money?  It sounds like a chain letter to me; if
> you're not using the mails, then just an ordinary pyramid scheme.
> 
> Seth		sethb@panix.com
> (Yes, this is me; I've moved my net.doings to this account.)

First off, I understand this is all illegal, and agree that it's stupid, etc.
However, being the type who wants to understand why things are the way they
are, I'd like to know if anyone knows *why* it's illegal?  It doesn't seem like
fraud, since the would-be pyramider always comes out and tells you that you have
to sell your copies, and that you become rich only if everyone else sells their
copies, etc.  It doesn't seem like interstate gambling, since, as mentioned above,
"This is not a gamble...".  So, besides the fact that the postal codes say "thou shalt
do long jail terms for pyramid schemes through the mail", what's wrong with it?  Also,
what institution (ie: federal, state, etc) would arrest you if you did this on a non-mail
and non-interstate basis?  I've always heard that the postal codes made this illegal.

Again, I agree it's a stupid thing to do (unless you're the first person :-) but that tends
to be a bad reason to make things illegal, 1st ammendment rights and all, you know...

--Michael Ginsberg, mikegins@microsoft.com
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