HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: OPEN JUDGEMENT OF A "COLOR WOLF"
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:08:48 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`) writes:


>Can any netters answer me the following question:

>Assume there is a "color wolf" - undergrad, in a university who sexally 
>disturbs girls frequently, is it fair for us to judge him openly in front of
>all the students and "dot his face" to the public?!

>Or if it is better to tackle this matter secretly, maybe send him to
>a social worker?!  And leave some space for this satyr?!

I think it depends on the "color wolf."  If he is a self-confident person
who wouldn't careless, maybe publicly announce his name would be the last
resort.  

If he lacks self-esteem, you might want to convince him to go see a 
social worker (instead of sending him...).

Tell us (at least me) about the situation... let's see what solutions we
can come up with.  A therapy only works when the subject is willing to
change himself.

BTW, I notice there aren't that many psychologists practise in Hong Kong.  
I begin to think that a social worker in hong kong is eqivalent to 
a psychologist in the States (of course, a social worker wouldn't charge by
the hour...)

My opinions only, others may vary.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: stevew@helios.unl.edu (Steve Wu)
Subject: Re: Steve Wu's comment about Vaxen
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date:  3 Oct 92 19:38:58 GMT

onward@fsg.com (Onward Lam) writes:


>	EVERY MACHINE/OS HAS ITS PLACE IN THE WORLD

  Yes, but it doesn't mean that that machine/os has to be that place
forever. VAX/VMS was not bad, but they are just to old for this world.
And as I mentioned before thinking about {MIPS/cost} or the degree of
openness, maintaince cost and etc. I don't think VAX is a good choice.

>The effectiveness of a machine can only be defined by its ability to
>provide the level of service required by its users to those same users.
>
>Whether we the technical lot like the OS or not is irrelevant.

  This is unfortunately true. Have you heard the following story?

  An R&D department of a big company has just bought a new Cray Y-MP.
One day, one of the executive came down and the chief of engineer gave
him a tour. When they walked into the machine room and the young
executive looked at the Cray and mentioned that this had been a very
big investment for such a small device. The engineer told his boss
that with this small device, they could achieve many things that they
could only dream in the pass. Being so impressive that the executive
wondered if Cray could run his spreadsheet a thousand time faster.
The engineer tried to tell his boss that Lotus had never had a version
of 1-2-3 running on Cray, and the executive said "What? you mean this
is even not a IBM compatible?"

  Not many people knows what they really want from a computer, and
these people never learn.

>Personally, I have spent most of the last 10 years working with the
>various flavours of Unix, and a few other operating systems from time to
>time.  If you ask me which I prefer, I would say, 'Give me Unix anytime
>to do development, but if you want to run a business, doing repetitive
>things, and a bunch of not very technical users, I will pick VMS 9 times
>out of 10.' (okay, only between Unix and VMS, since I know little about
>Big Blue system).

  Are you saying vms is good for computer-idiot? You may be right,
Since I have seen computer-idiots use CMS and they are satisfied with
it. However, the running/maintaining/upgrading cost on these things
are very very very very high. On the other hand, with GUI and X, I
guess unix based machines would fit for non-technical users.

  Think about it, I guess you also know that, VAX/VMS or CMS or these
unportable system will fade out.

  steve


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: chclau@demorgan.uwaterloo.ca (Carmel Lau)
Subject: Re: Student Cooking
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:28:05 GMT

In article <JcuVRB6w165w@student.business.uwo.ca> j3cheng@student.business.uwo.ca (Jonathan Cheng) writes:
>Hi folks!
>
>Last year we left the discussion of I.N. (instant noodles).  Thought 
>you'd gotten rid of me, right?  Anyway, I'm back, better than before, 
>ready to share with the gourmet-food-inclined-Asian-student some 
>delicious, YET, nuTRICIOUS meals than need only 2 min prep!!!
>
>Think of this as FONG TAI YU NAY, aka Mrs. Fong and You!
>
>SPAGHETTINI ALLA 'HEEN-JAI-FARN-CARE-JUB' (clams in tomato sauce)
>Prep time: 2 min 43.5 seconds
>Materials: 1 pack Fresh Spaghettini (not the dried kind)
>           1 can  Ragu Pasta sauce w/ extra mushrooms and green peppers
>           1 can  Shelled Clams in Salt Water
>           1 small onion
>
>Equipment: 2 pots (1 for water, 1 for sauce)
>           Eating utensils (N.B. Real pasta eaters eat with only a fork, 
>                            NO spoons, and from a shallow dish.)
>           Chinese Chopper
>
>Method:    (Do quickly or else you won't make the 2min43 time)
>           Boil 2.5l of water in one bowl while cutting onion.
>           Sautee onions with a little oil in the other pot.
>           Open all cans and packages, drain clams.
>           Add sauce and clams to onions and simmer.
>           Take out sieve and get pasta ready.
>           Once water boils, add pasta and wait 45 secs.
>           Once tender, drain pasta and dump noodles in dish
>           Sauce should be ready, add and serve.
>
>Next time, we'll see how to prepare the super fast chef salad...
>WITH NO SALAD DRESSING!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>BTW, stick pots in sink and fill with detergent solution before washing; 
>makes life a bit easier.
>
>Until next time (who knows when!), Adios!
>(Music fades in the background)
>
>j3cheng@student.business.uwo.ca (Jonathan Cheng)
>Western Business School  --  London, Ontario


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr H Hui)
Subject: Tat-Ming 1 Pie
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 09:53:38 GMT


Hello, 
It seems to be quite number of netter like their songs. What song(s)
from them you like the most?

My personal choice :
1. Kam Sic (Prohibited Color)
2. Mon Kei Ta Si Ta (Forget (s)he is (s)he)

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From: yhmok@shark.mti.sgi.com (Yeuk-Hai -Shark- Mok)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Sorry, here is the REAL chinese chart
Date: 6 Oct 1992 23:58:53 GMT
Organization: Mips Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: yhmok@shark.mti.sgi.com (Yeuk-Hai -Shark- Mok)
NNTP-Posting-Host: shark.mti.sgi.com

In article <1992Oct6.214055.26960@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, cfs2b@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Chun Fai Szeto) writes:
|> 	It is a very good idea to post those charts in Chinese. 
|> Every people should realize some of the Cantonese translation is
|> rarely suitable in English.  So please keep doing these Chinese
|> stuff,  I think most people would agree with me.
|> 
	I agreed with you but I looked up the PinYin  she posted and they are
correct.  Its the standard way to write cantonese in Romanized form and I think
everyone should learn that...... I think I've said too much.

	Shark at SGI
Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:15299 soc.culture.indian:32407 alt.culture.us.asian-indian:711
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian.telegu,soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.us.asian-indian
Subject: Re: ASIAN MATRIMONIAL SERVICES, INC.
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:46:30 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University

In article <1992Sep28.223919.3050@informix.com> amara@informix.com (Amar Ananthapadmanabha) writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.201353.356@access.digex.com> gulati@access.digex.com writes:
>>A few weeks ago, there was some trepidation on the net regarding the
>>(manner of) announcement of ASIAN MATRIMONIAL SERVICES, INC., a
>>company serving the relationship search needs of the Asian community.
>>
>I believe you.  But I think you haven't still set to rest the insinuations
>on the common last names of Ms Anju and yourself. You have also not 
>answered the questions on the null lastname of Ms Anju in your postings
>till you assumed the Vice Presidency of AMS.
>
>>   ANJU V. GULATI,  President & Founder
>            ^^^^^^^<<	first mention of Ms Anju's lastname. >>
>
>>   RAJ K. GULATI,   Vice-President
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

I fail to see what the nexus between Anju Gulati and Raj Gulati have to 
do with the services they are offering. Does it matter if they hid some 
personal information at first and revealed it later. Maybe they felt it 
would jeopardize their buisness in someway. Perhaps it was advertisement. 
But then you see information on where to get pressure cookers, saris, flowers
voltage converters, airline tickets etc. which are all in the same league 
of indirect advertising. IMO, there's a need for such a service as this
within the Indian community and even if it was an unethical advertisement, I 
am sure we can make an exception to this (we make exceptions to all the name
calling that goes on here) too. 

Disclaimer - I have not subscribed to their services nor am I 
             associated with them in any way. 

regards,
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: yasin@laser.dev.cdx.mot.com (Yasin)
Subject: Re: O M A R  S H A R I F...  (WARNING)
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:06:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.005312.15997@njitgw.njit.edu> ixs0672@hertz.njit.edu (Irfan Ahmed) writes:
>				
>		KAHKESHAN ART COUNCIL & SAGAR
>		      PROUDLY PRESENT
                      ^^^^^^^
		Will not be so proud after the show
>			
>		STAR NITE 1992 WITH  OMAR SHARIF
>		
>		HASSAN JAHANGIR,  BENJAMIN SISTERS
>
>		AFTAB BACHAN " YOUNG AMITABH "
>
>			DANCES  &
>
>		   FAMOUS T.V STARS
>



	A "RIP OFF", PLEASE TRY TO UTILIZE YOUR MONEY IN A BETTER WAY. 

	HERE IS THE SUMMARY WHY I RATE THIS SHOW SO LOW:

	1.  	There are three new singers (not so good), who
		given more time individually then even Benjamin
		sisters or Hassan Jehangir. So if the show lasts
		for three hours, Benjamin sisters will be given
		about 20 minutes. And Hassan Jehangir may get even
		less since he is the tail ender. It gets really boring
		to listen to this crap of the new singers in order to
		wait for Benjamin sisters and Hassan Jehangir.

	2.	Some of Omar's jokes were atleast 6 years old,
		give me a break, I heard over 95% of these in Karachi.
		The only thing he does good is to shut up the
		people in the crowd with his indecent remarks,
		and ofcourse he has the mike so it is not a 
		balanced duel of remarks.

	3.	Hassan Jehangir comes at the end, and since the
		show starts late anyway, the guy because of
		HAWA HAWA is given the least time of all the
		singers. (The building is to be closed on time
		even if Mr. Omar Shariff is late in starting the
		show as much as an hour).


	4.	The worst joke performed by a comedian, is to 
		degrade Pakistan. Mr Sharif really takes the
		cake for this. One of his jokes were
		to pose as if Javed Miandad was also there &
		he is coming to the stage for just few moments,
		people were asked to give a welcome to the star
		of the Pakistani Cricket team, ofcourse the crowd
		started giving a standing ovation, but Mr. Sharif
		said this was my joke, (playing with sentiments
		of Pakistanis is the joke of the worst joker).
		I really dont think Jawed Miandad will associate
		himself with such cheapness.

	5.	I truly beleive that the show is worth only $5
		since Benjamin sisters 3 songs are there, and
		to listen to HAWA HAWA and if time allows about
		two more songs from him. The rest is all JUNK.

	6.	The most horrible was the young Amitabh, the
		guy wears atleast four inch high heel shoes
		(to look taller then another actor villian) and acts
		on the voice of Amitabh (reminds me of the kids
		of about 7 - 10 years who try to play the good
		guys and bad guys fist fights).

	I hope that Omar improves his standards and try to put
	some thing more funny in the routine (other than himself).
	He just cannot survive on Bakra Kiston Par and Mr 420.
	

	Yasin.






Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz (S.G. Abbas)
Subject: Re: Madona's new song and Allah..Allah....
Keywords: Hydrocarbons.
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 20:10:08 GMT


Dear Zakir Abidi,
Aslam-o-Alaikoom,
That is good thinking on your part. Keep it on. Let them be busy in some
affairs like this.
Thanks.
Ghazanfar
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 6 Oct 1992 13:19:28 CDT
From: <U43587@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: I'M AN ASIAN MODEL IN A WHITE WORLD(TRUE STORY)

Hello to all those losers out there who think that brown skin can't
sell white products.  How little ye knows. Let me introduce myself,
my name is Habeebullah Khazandar Khan, and I am a pure patthan, yet
pure pak.  I came here in search of the Pak Dream to become a doctor or
engineer, or 7-11 owner/part time cab driver . As luck would have it I
ended up as most of us "thinkers" do, the latter. Anyways, I was rip
roaring through the dangerous streets of Chicago, looking for a prospective
fare, thinking of the suffering back home, and the exploitataion of the
Pak working class by Yellow Cab co., when Lo and Behold (as they say in
many a fairy tale) out of the blue I picked up a handsomely dressed
bussiness person.  I asked him where to? He Replied Playboy building
please. Then and there my humble mind started thinking, of what business
does he have at the Playboy building, so I cautiously asked.  At first I
felt that he may not reply, thinking I was rude, but upon taking a closer
look at me he realized that I was his answer to his many problems.  He
answered that he was a photographer for Desi Illustrated(the magazine
for lonely people of Indo-Pak origin, or those who liked those type).
I asked what type of Photographer was this man and for what type of
magazine? He humbly replied that he was Director of Asian Studies at
a local university and part time photographer.  He gazed at me closely
and commented on my excellent Physique.  Not many people, of my kind
(Desi's), had such a large and handsome ____(come on, dont be naughty,i
meant my nose).  Well, to make a long story short, my 7-11/cab driver days
are over.  I presently reside in the upper class Suburb of OakBrook with
my large family and have since then sold many a products aimed at White
people.  Now I am currently embarked on a film  entitled Chatni Fever,
about a Pak guy who meets a Polish jew who makes sausage at the local
bagel outlet in Skokie(a.k.a. yehudiville).

My point being, my fellow desi's do not fear the white man He is your friend
and can use you for a quick rupee/dollar.  If you direley want to be a model
contact me through yellow cab or call me at 1-900-Desi-models ($20/min.)

THIS WAS BROUGHT TO YOU DESI'S r US COURTESY OF
DA PAKS FOR A BETTER PAK.
CHICAGO
 SPONSORED BY PARI BASMATI RICE
proud sponsors of the Kabadi fest '92 & Desi model's '93.
This is in response to ASIAN MODELS.
From: ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: convictions
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:26:46 GMT
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York

In article <1992Oct6.151255.17319@cbnews.cb.att.com> izaz@cbnews.cb.att.com (sheikh.izazul.haque) writes:
>
>Here's a new one for netters. What do people believe are Pakistanis true 
>convictions? i.e. things one would never compromise on?
>
>e.g. Family, Religion, Money, Human Rights, Democracy, Honesty, etc.

Who cares!!!
From: x91kamal1@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: PIA FLIGHT? ANY MORE INFO????
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:00:01 EST
Summary: PIA Flight is missing and I am very sad.
Keywords: PIA, ???
Organization: Western Michigan University

PIA FLIGHT MISSING
If anyone knows any solidinfo about the PIA crash, please put it on the net.
That would be very kind. Thanks and regards,
						Mateen A. Khan
From: scheema@slate.mines.colorado.edu (CHEEMA SAAD NASRULLAH )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Test
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:52:40 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines


	

	This is a test please ignore.
From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Isn't it wondeful???
Date: 4 Oct 92 13:34:57 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Oct3.185358.16230@prism.poly.edu> ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain) writes:
>>From: ramamurt@chopin.cs.unc.edu (Srikanth Ramamurthy)
>Ruks>   The Holy Quran is for *all* of mankind and for all of time.

>Srra>   We could keep quoting from our favorite texts till the moon turns into
>Srra>   green cheese .......   

>      *all* of mankind needs *green cheese* too: please keep our hopes alive.
>>>Rukhsana Merchant
>>-Srikanth R.
>  Arshad Hussain

	   I thought the moon turns into *blue* cheese. Are we talking
about color blindness here? In that case, Ms. RM is least likely to be
color blind, since she is a lady. (Color blindness is a sex-related
disease. No, that does not mean that you get it from having sex. It
means that males are more likely to be color blind than females.)

Salman [genius does what he/she must] Azhar





-- 
 I must, with emotional fire, burn or illume myself
 I must, with the heat of passion, melt or sublime myself
 I must, in flood of tears, drown or cleanse myself
 I must! I must! I must! For my people and myself -- D. Salman [Q] Azhar
From: salama@topaz.ucq.edu.au (DR_M_A_SALAM)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: RE: Fundamentalism: Essential to Islam
Date: 28 Sep 92 10:37:19 AET
Organization: UCQ


Mr. Sumitro Ammadar responded somewhat positively to my reply to the post
"Fundamentalism: Essential ...", and had shown interest in a muslim,s
response to the alleged actions and sayings of Muhammad (Sallallaho-Alihey_
Wassallam). A quick reply will be - crap. But I would like to mention few
important points.
1)    It is interesting to note in the above mentioned article that some
abscure passages have exctracted out of context to make a case against
Islam. NOT a single quote from the Quran except one which speaks of itself.
A couple of words stolen out of context. The writer has failed to mention that
the half quoted verse was about the situation during the war and NOT a normal
practice.
2)    The way the passages have been quoted and the names of muslim historains
have been used is misleading. It reflects the author's ignorance of Islamic
history, theology and the techniques involved in the collection of Hadith ( the
biography of Muhammad (SAW)). The historians and scholars who were collecting
the sayings of Muhammad (SAW) and his companians gathered all what they could
find except one scholar named Bukhari, who outright rejected any report
regarding Muhammad (SAW) which was doubtful on technical grounds. I won't
elaborate on those techniques here. Thus you can find extremely unreliable
Hadiths in the collections of those early well known and respected scholars.
They not only collected them but have classified them according to the
reliability. So it is unwise to make such quotations without the context and
reasonable knowledge of Hadith, unless one wants to mislead the people. As I
have mentioned earlier, the author of "Fundamentalism:...." could only find
such abscure and unreliable quotations but could not find cross references
from the Quran.
3) I can gieve many counter examples from the Bible and other religious books
but that is not the point. 
4)   Only if people can restrain themselves from attacking the honour and
integrity of the spiritual leaders of the world religions, this world could
be a better place to live.

                     *****THE END*****
From: rajesh@maxine.wpi.edu (Rajesh Raman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: JOKE....(Pt-2)
Date: 4 Oct 92 22:25:39 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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  Thanks for the jokes! Keep posting!

  Rajesh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: yousuf@bnr.ca (Yousuf Saifullah)
Subject: Some more ashar from Qasmi
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 14:06:58 GMT

Thanks Adil for appreciation of Put-thar, and also for good
ashars. Speaking of Qasmi Sahib here are some more of his ashars
from my memory.

jab tayra hukum mila turk mohabbat kur di
dil magar oos pur wo dharka kay qiyamat kur di
tujh ko chaha hay kay us-nam purasti (IDOL WORSHIP) kee hay
maiN nay whay-dat (ONENESS) kay muffahim (MEANINGS) kee kusrat kur di
kiya tayra jism tayray husn kee hid-dat (HEAT) maiN jala
rakh kis nay tayray soonay kee see rangat kur di
mujh ko dushman kay eraday pur bhi payar aata hay
tayree oolfat (LOVE) nay mohabbat mayree aadat kar di

And how about this Shookh ghazal

sham ko subhay chaman yaad aaee
kis kee kushboo-e-badan yaad aaee
yaad aa-ay tayray paykar kay qatoot (CURVES OF THE BODY)
apni kohtae-ay-fun yaad aaee
jub khay-ya-looN maiN koee morr(TURN) aaya
tayray gaysoo(LOCK) kee shikan yaad aaee
din shoo-a-ooN say ulajhtay guzra
raat aaee to kiran yaad aaee

And some of its marvelous ashshars

maiN to oos rooz say dur raha hooN wo pooch na layN
kay wo zabt ka aaNso (TEAR) tha to tupka kaysay

aay kudha ub tayray firdous (HEAVEN) pur haq hay mayra
to nay is door kay jahanam maiN jalaya hay mujhay

ik haqeeqat hee sahee firdous maiN hoorooN ka wajood
husn-e-insaN say nimat looN to wahaN tuk daykhooN

taqleeq-e-kaaynat kay dilchusp jurm pur
hansta ho ga aap bhi yazdaN (GOD) kabhi kabhi
	(I am not sure whether this shair is of Qasmi's or not
 	 but anyway it is a good shair).



Enjoy,
Yousuf Saifullah.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: S.G.Abbas@massey.ac.nz (S.G. Abbas)
Subject: Re: Madona's new song and Allah..Allah....
Keywords: Hydrocarbons.
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 04:23:06 GMT



What do you think Zakir Abidi.? Is Allah is only yours ? Ca'nt Madona
has any right to "remember" her in her own style  ? What do you think of
song which has been " recited" by Allan Faqir and Mohammad Ali Shaekhi
and it has repeated the word "Allah" so mant times. And what do you
think of so many "Hamds" and "Naats"  either with music or in Indian
Style songs ?
So dear Zakir Abidi do not worry. (Zia'S) Islam may be in danger with
things like this, but REAL ISLAM can not be in danger with such stupid
things.
And in the end what do you think of "Sura-e-Kafroon" last Ayat-

"lakam dina kum wali-edin". meaning for you there is a different path
and for there is a different path.
So, let them adopt the path of "sins". You do not follow that path. That
is it.

Ghazanfar