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From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: Flat tire :  What do you do ?
Organization: Programmers Who Say Ni
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 00:59:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.154744.16877@tamsun.tamu.edu> peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram) writes:
+Hi,
+
+    If you get a flat in the middle of a city,
+    you can call somebody to pick it up.  What would
+    you do if you get a flat somewhere 100 miles from
+    a city at midnight ?  

There are tire repair kits available that you can carry with you.
The ones for tubeless tires work especially well since you do
not have to remove the tire from the wheel to use them.  They
are geared for a normal nail puncture--- but these are the more
common type.  There is always the flat fix in a can, but I do
not know how well these work.

____________________________________________________________________________
	You're never too old to become younger -- Mae West
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 Paul Blumstein, paulb@harley.tti.com, DoD #36, ABATE, AMA, HOG, KD6LAA
            Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 15:46:13 GMT
Subject: Re: what kind of oil needed for winter storage??
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

> From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
> 
> 
> 	You can, but why would you want to?  Once the riding season is
> over, I park the bike, drain the fuel, remove the battery, and there she
> sits for four months.  Why change the oil?  I can see it if you have
> water in it or something, but I don't.  I just leave it, though I

If you've ridden the bike, you've got moisture.

> have been known to fire it up once a month or so to get oil circulating
> through the block.

Oil that has been used to some extent has moisture, combustion products 
and, potentially, acids from combustion products. Fresh oil is better.

Firing it up to run it for short periods only promotes water condensation
since the bike doesn't get properly warmed up enough to start boiling off
the water in the oil or the condensing water in the exhaust system.

Where does the water come from? Blowby of combustion gasses wil touch
the oil, gasoline dilution from using the choke to start it will also
get into the oil. The exhaust pipes will get water from simple combustion
gasses and condense it to liquid in the cold pipes. (Remember that stream
of running water from cager pipes when they get moving on a cool day?)


> 
> 
> 	Really, if all you're after is keeping condensation and
> moisture from harming the internals, any oil will do it, and it is
> best done by starting it once a month or so.  Old or new oil won't

Wrong. Lay it up with fresh oil. Don't start it at all. If you want to be
anal-retentive, you could use dessicant packs in the exhaust, intake and
crankcase breather.


Ref: Drive It Forever.   Sikorsky.

(Info for cages but applies to bikes.)

Ron
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley)
Subject: Re: Concours throttle lock? mirror problem?
Organization: Microbial Pathogenesis and Motorcycle Maintenance
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 22:53:17 GMT

I took off my '86 mirrors, tightened them up, put them back on and they've 
held. For a throttle lock, I've got foam grips, and just shove the foam 
over. It works great. I had an el cheapo throttle lock that worked for a 
while, but prefer the simplistic approach.
__________________________________________________________________________
Steve L. Moseley                                  moseley@u.washington.edu
Microbiology SC-42                                Phone: (206) 543-2820
University of Washington                          FAX:   (206) 543-8297
Seattle, WA 98195
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: MY Winner for DoD Ballard (wuz Winner of the Official...)
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:26:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Sep04.142639.11423
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <4717@prcrs.prc.com> terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.130537.13177@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ross Allan Roberts) writes:
>
>Well, I'd like to claim Daffy Duck as the official DoD Mallard!
>
>What, that was Ballard, not Mallard, well never mind. 
>

Well, I don't see the big fuss about having the official song being
moto related; we're rarely directly tied to motorcycles in our
daily rantings, so why enforce that restriction when we're out
making fools of ourselves to the general public?  We want a song we
can sing, which is hopefully nonoffensive to those who just don't
have a clue who we are, and we want it to reflect our general
character.  So I nominate "Going to the Zoo".  It's got a catchy
refrain that listeners can learn after one repeat, and we can add
our own verse as required by occaision.  (There should be at least
one verse about visiting the llama yard...)
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: cbr600f2 - minor problem...
Keywords: cbr600f2
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:57:57 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

jmp@dar.csiro.au (POWELL James;Change Jmp Impacts;575) writes:

>Any other CBR600 owners out there experiencing an annoying problem that
>feels like fuel starvation/poor carburation? Its a short (less than a
>second) 'hesitation' before the power comes on.
>It only seems to happen immediately after a gear change after moderate to
>heavy accelleration that drops the revs into the 4000RPM region.

The Goof2's are known for this "flat" spot, generally quite narrowly
confined somewhere between 4 and 5K RPM.  I noticed it when I first got
my bike, but seldom anymore - since I've gotten comfortable with the
bike, I stay above this range most of the time.  I suspect the culprit
is some type of interaction with the exhaust, as I never noticed the 
flat spot when I had the Yosh pipe.  (I put the stock pipe back on,
though, as the Yosh was loud and the bike had not been rejetted for it)

-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
From: weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu (Mike Weaver)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (you better let him have one...)
Date: 29 Aug 92 15:12:18 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug29.000005.29211@news.nd.edu> Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.222525.11603@javelin.sim.es.com> Dances With
>Bikers, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>>Loosely translated:
>>"I still don't have a clue, so I'm broadcasting my cluelessness to the
>>net instead of asking the Keeper of the List for a number."
>>-- 
>>Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah
>84108
>>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX:
>blaine_g
>>Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.     
>FJ1200
>
>Man, DWB, that stings.... straight from the mouth of a DOD GOD. I stand
>chastised before the DOD community (wimper, wimper...). Where is this
>KEEPER OF THE LIST? Is he a DOD GOD, demi-god, or just some brown-nosin',
>pussy-assed pee-on who is forced to be some kind of newsgroup secretary...
>
>SHOW YOURSELF KOTL, AND GIVE ME MY NUMBER!!!!
>
>
>Rich Swift
>DOD # ------------- I AINT GOT ONE YET!

I believe that you stated in your earlier post that you had read quite a bit
of r.m. If this was the case, you would know who the KotL is. It's not very
difficult to find out.

Oh, I'm sorry. I assumed that you had more than two brain cells to rub 
together.


Now, shut up and read the FAQ.
-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
Michael Weaver            |"Where ever you go, There will be something in your
weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu  | way." --Banzai Clutter Theorm
DoD#0529    KotGB         | 1982 Yamaha Vision 550 --  It's feeling better.
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:07:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.030351.11355@cs.cornell.edu> karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.191447.21323@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug30.211927.391@halfdome.sf.ca.us> laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
>>[...]
>>>well, this is where our opinions differ. i don't think "keeping up"
>>>is the issue.  for me it's having enough power [... etc.]
>>
>>Wow.  What a change of the normal roles:  me, a hard-core moto dude
>>arguing with a short woman rider that small bikes are ok.  Shouldn't
>>we switch our positions before the universe implodes? :-)
>
>Er ... I'm not sure why you assume that Laurie is NOT a "hard-core
>moto <female equivalent of 'dude'>." 

I usually call 'em biker babes, but I didn't use that here because
'babe' has a lot of negative connotations that I don't intend to bring up
with that phrase.   To me, it means a woman who rides (and wrenches!)
her own bike(s).

> To what "normal roles" were you referring?

Tall people who have been riding for a long time (like me) usually
forget about the joys of small bikes, and have to be reminded
by shorter riders, usually women, who are more recent converts to
the sport.

Thought you'd be Politicaly Correct and catch me in a bit of
sexisim, eh?  Phhhhbbbt! :-)


--
Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black leather.
From: weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu (Mike Weaver)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Starter for '82 Vision
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:23:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Aug25.192327.14211
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Originator: weaver@castor

I need one. Mine burned up. While I am shopping for a place to rebuild it, 
I thought that I would post and see if someone had a junk Vision that they
would be willing to sell me the starter off of.


OR

Does anyone know how to rebuild a starter? If so, would you tell me how?

Thanks!
-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
Michael Weaver            |"Where ever you go, There will be something in your
weaver@castor.cs.uga.edu  | way." --Banzai Clutter Theorm
DoD#0529                  | 1982 Yamaha Vision 550 --  It's feeling better.
From: sbrandt@centi.cs.umn.edu (Scott Alan Brandt)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wheelin' and dealin'
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:50:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In article <17bhtlINNfun@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> scooper@cse.ucsc.edu (Scott Cooper) writes:
>So here I am, cash in hand, ready to go buy a new Honda Hawk.  How much
>can I whittle the price down?  It lists for $3898.
That depends on many factors including:
- What they paid
- How many they have in stock
- How many they have sold lately
- How hungry they are
- How much overhead they have
- How hard you push and for how long
- How much they think they can get from you
- etc.

>Any experiences?  I will be paying CASH, and buying a helmet, too.
The last time I bought a used car I got it for 25% off the list price.
It took about 3 hours of haggling with the guy but he finally agreed.
During the 3 hours he tried every sleazy trick in the book, including
"Someone else is looking at the car and wants to make an offer, do we
have a deal or not", and "The floor manager says this is the lowest we
can go", and "You deserve this car", and many more.  I left the place
once and threatened to leave several more times, but finally he 
relented and I paid exactly what I wanted to pay.  It cost me 3 hours
(plus time spent comparison shopping first), but I saved about $1500 - 
$2000.

You should at least be able to get them to give you the helmet for free.

> Is it worth driving my hell-cage over to the Bay Area?
Depends on how precious your time is.  I would use the phone first.

>My father suggests starting with a 10% lower bid than list.  I thought I
>might offer about $3400 (about 13% off) but that sounds low.  Don't wanna
>insult anyone (yah, right).
You cannot insult anyone when doing a business deal.  Any offer is 
acceptable.  If they don't want to do business at that price, they will
tell you so.  If they act insulted, don't worry about it, it's part
of the game.

You should also consider the fact that price is not the only factor.
Good, prompt, honest, efficient service is worth a lot, if you can find
it.  Ever since my bike spent a whole summer in a shop waiting to be fixed,
I have felt much stronger about this.

Scott Brandt
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Subject: Re: key fobs
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.
	<1992Sep4.092631.435@halfdome.sf.ca.us>
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:22:42 GMT

On 4 Sep 92 09:26:31 PDT, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) said:

bob> In article <9209041535.AA17918@nettlerash.berkeley.edu>, XP2729@LSUVM.BITNET (Terry Baldridge) writes:
> Arnie how about a DoD key fob now?  It would
> nice to have one like BMW MOA key fobs.

bob> this is the *first* dod item that i'm willing to come out in public 
bob> and say *YES*.  (those letters were in caps, btw).

Just to let you-all know that I'm doing my part, I sent Arnie a Dryden
Zippo key fob right after the DoD Zippos materialized.  We can get a
DoD Zippo key fob easily, since Zippo already has the dies from the
lighters.

They're very nice, with two slip-off rings for keys and a nice,
substantial center piece.  Our gift shop, which orders in vast
quantities and has no overhead except salaries, sells them for four or
five dollars.  I'd expect the DoD ones to cost a little more, of
course, particularly with shipping (Arnie has to buy those mailers
and the stamps).

--
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "There's no kill like a guns kill." LCDR "Hoser" Satrapa, gunnery instructor
                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: FAQ - What is the DoD?
Summary: I admit when I'm wrong.
Keywords: DoD FAQ
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:03:51 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.





          Okay, I'm can admit when I'm mistaken.  I ordered my mirror
and will live with the scratched exhaust and scratched windshield.  I
unbent my brake pedal.  I realize that conceding error is against the
spirit, if not the letter, of the DoD rules, but I felt that this
might be an exception.  If not, eat me.  FTL-LTF!

                                      Kevin
From: fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wheelies
Date: 4 Sep 92 06:36:55 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Ed Computing Network

In article <1992Sep3.223925.4986@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small) writes:
>
>Gee, and to think, I learn how to wheelie with a blond on the back of
>my EX500 going down a country road at night . . . 
>

Gee, she must really have been fat.  Or he, if it was a guy.  BlondE is
the feminine form of blond, ya know.


I was straight up and down near redline on my EX500 this Monday, and
when I shifted into second my back tire broke traction, skipping all
over the place.  Fortunately I was able to ride it out, but it put a
few things into perspective (like moderation)...


Clint Flecken-Stimpy
 __________________________________________________________________________
 Clint Fleckenstein   <fleckens@plains.nodak.edu> <fleckens@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
 Master Control/Operations, KFYR TV 5 / KQCD TV 7              .5k EX Pilot  
 My login and conduct don't belong to Meyer Broadcasting.         DoD #5150  
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm)
Subject: DoD Battle Hymn entry
Organization: Ocean Sciences Centre
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:03:23 GMT


	How about one of the following:

	SAXON:
	Motorcycle Man (starts with moto race sounds at a UK track)
	It's all about riding, from the Album 'Wheels of Steel'. This is
	a cool tune folks.

	Motorhead:
	Bomber (song about being part of a bomber crew I think)
	Iron Horse (dedicated to all the 'Angels')
	
	Jesus and Mary Chain:
	Living End (true to the JMC sound, and neato lyrics about feeling
	so good in leather boots etc., and riding)

	
	Craig

	
-- 
  
    Craig Hamm, 		From 'Viz', Victor Pratt, the stupid twat
    Memorial University	        Biker: "My bike's got a flat, Vic"
    DoD #1500,           	Vic:   "Really? Whereabouts is it living?"
    '81 Maxim 650 
    ----
From: Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Can you buy higher octane fuel than this?
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:19:26 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: usa
Organization: MSUS

In article <5098@gdls.UUCP>, parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster) wrote:
> 
> They agreed that the octane rating (R+M/2) is 104. I tried
> the fuel in my '74 R90/6 before I bought my '87 R80RT and
> was really disappointed that I didn't go screaming down
> the road with flames coming out of my exhaust or increase my
> MPG calculations. There was nothing noticable, anyway.
> 
	Unless you bike dearly NEEDS higher octane fuel, you
	shouldn't notice any improvement because there won't
	be any.  Higher octane does not mean "more volatile"
	or "more powerful."  In fact, it means "less volatile."

	A super high octane fuel is kerosene.  See, it doesn't
	mean it's going to work in your engine.  Generally,
	nonaromatics have high octane ratings.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: new bike .vs. vasectomy
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6C9242A96032631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 1 Sep 92 18:44:10 GMT
Organization: World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d8
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:50:19 GMT

In article <2356@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> Joe Senner,
joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com writes:
>I say bravo to the man for not accepting the way women today whine about
>inequalities and opression to justify their abusive attitudes and
actions.
>I say put the bitch in a womans prison and let her have a taste of her
>own medicine. she won't be so tough there. she doesn't deserve help any
more,
>she deserves punishment.
>
>I take your support of her actions and attitudes to mean your situations
>are somehow similar...


I forgot to post the phone in responses (from BOTH women _and_ men)
about the lady who called in..here's some of the responses from the
callers:

			Male:   "I can't BELIEVE she gave him a wad of money, told him to
                 TAKE A CAB TO THE HOSPITAL HIMSELF and get his 
                 hydrolics cut!"
      Male2:  "I would have bought the bike, turned left and kept on
going..."
      Male3:  "Humph..gimme a choice between a razor between the legs
                  and a shiny new bike, it takes no rocket scientist to
figure
                  out which one I'd take..."
      Female: "Any woman stupid enough to give a man a large sum of 
                   money and set him out on his own, deserves what she
gets.."

      Female2: "Well he won't need a vasectomy now..give him about 2 weeks
                     and he'll be dead anyway.."
      Female3: "What's a motorcycle?"  (just making this one up heh heh)..

There were alot more calls..almost all of them favored what the guy did.  
They thought the woman was a totally cold uptight bitch (TM) for expecting
this guy to go out on his own and get his wanker cut while she stayed at
home and watched soap operas...I tend to agree...
    
                                                     
      -aki                                         *   A tank of gas, a
pair of
      DoD#0628                               *   gloves, a helmet on my
      ------------------------     *   head and a motor between
       Disclamer: Comments are my  *   my legs..folks, it don't git
       own..my employer doesn't        *   no bettern' this....
      understand them...                    *
From: rmugele@oracle.com (Robert Mugele)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Batteries
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:00:50 GMT
	<19771@drutx.ATT.COM>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <19771@drutx.ATT.COM> pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith) writes:

  > >In article <19672@drutx.ATT.COM> pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith) writes:
   >>>Has anyone had experience with buying a battery via mailorder?
   >>Where did you find electrolyte?  Do auto parts stores sell it?
   >>
   >>Why bother?  Your local auto parts store probably
   >>has the battery you need.  If not, try Sears.
   >>I replaced my bike's battery for about $35 plus
   >>tax (YB14A2(?)) last year.  Sears would probably
   >>have charged more, but not what bike shops charge.

   >I did buy locally.  I just wanted to be prepared in case the prices
   >at local shops were ridiculous, or in case no one stocked a battery
   >for my, umm, "vintage" bike.  I found an OEM Yuasa battery at a local
   >Honda dealer for $30.  Sears wanted $40.
   >--

   >P.M. Smith
   If you live in Texas you may just want to buy via mail order.  Last
   week I bought a battety from Sears for my GS450.  The price
   breakdown is as follows:
           Battery Price   39.99
           Battery Tax      4.00
           Sales Tax        3.75

    This battery tax is a real pisser.  There is also a $2.00 tax on
    all tires sold in the state (over and above sales tax), but we
    don't have a state income tax --- yet.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Bob Mugele                            214-401-5875
Advanced Text Products                Oracle Corporation
Linguistic Technology Group           5221 N. O'Connor Suite 1400
                                      Irving, TX  75039
'81 GS450E         rmugele@oracle.com

Disclaimer:  Any opinions expressed are my own.  Now they can be 
             yours too.  Simply send $19.95 to me at
                      Fred's Diner
                      Snake's Navel,  Arizona 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: hamid@west.rs.com (Hamid R. Moazed)
Subject: Re: Double Yellow Blues
Reply-To: hamid@west.rs.com
Organization: Renaissance Software, Inc.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:43:03 PDT

In article 65086@cup.portal.com, APLer@cup.portal.com (Roland Walter Besserer) writes:
>
>Just to keep you guys up-to-date. Crossing a double yellow line
>on Highway 1, not even speeding while in the process of passing
>a clunker doing 35mph - will set you back $217.
>
>WHAT A RIPOFF!
>
>roland


did you get the ticket riding your RGV? you're lucky he didn't impound
your bike.

-hamid