HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Should we limit the shorts life time.
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 23:55:05 GMT

In article <sehari.712270458@marge.ecss.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>From: greg@gregm.Berkeley.EDU (Greg Moritz)
>>Most of the news *I* hear (or at least the news I notice) regarding 
>>'shorts' is that the market for [... ] is *up* due to shorts covering 
>>their postitions.  
>
>Short covering is reverse of shorting a stock.  They are not the same thing.

Quite correct.  They are NOT the same thing.  But for every short
sale, there must eventually be a covering of the position.  We don't
know when that will be, but it WILL be covered.

And a short-covering transaction is equivalent to a stock purchase, in
the same way that a short-sale is equivalent to a stock sale.

Mr. Moritz is observing that for every "bad" effect (from short
selling, assuming, for the sake of argument, that short selling IS
bad, which is still questionable), there is a "good" effect (from the
short-covering).
-- 
Christopher Browne
cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca
University of Ottawa
Master of System Science Program
From: watson@sampson.ccsf.caltech.edu (Stephen H. Watson)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: British Pound rates
Keywords: Exchange Rates
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:25:17 GMT
Distribution: misc.invest
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

I'm not sure this falls under the category investing, but
this seemed like a reasonable group to which to post this.
I'll be going to Scotland in March of next year (on my
honeymoon), and I've been looking at the exchange rates for
the Pound Sterling.  For a while, it was >$2 per Pound, but
has since dropped to about $1.91.  My question is, what do
those on this newsgroup think will be the trend over the next
several months, and is it worth my time (read $$$) to buy 
Pound Notes or Traveller's Checks so far ahead of time?  

I.e., is the dollar going to get weaker against the Pound anytime
soon, or is it expected to strengthen?  (Just a simple question :-).

S. Watson

Standard NASA/JPL disclaimers apply here.
Newsgroups: misc.invest
From: hbe@sonia.math.ucla.edu (H. Enderton)
Subject: short-term global bond fund
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 18:59:49 GMT

What is netland's favorite short-term international bond fund?  Such
funds seem to be all the rage at the moment.  What funds have you
looked into, and what did you think of them?

--Herb Enderton    (hbe@math.ucla.edu)
From: kuo@acuson.com (Ray Kuo)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Snapple
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:19:55 GMT
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California

glickj@aix.rpi.edu (Joel Harris Glickman) writes:

>Anyone out there investing in Snapple? There seems to be a large potential
>for growth here..
>-Joel

I thought the same, until I found out that Snapple is a privately
held company.

Ray
From: srm@ross.com (Sesha Myneni)
Newsgroups: misc.invest
Subject: Re: Buying gold
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:13:35 GMT
Organization: ROSS Technology, Inc. Austin, Tx.

In article <Brt21D.Fs7@news.cso.uiuc.edu> atkinson@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (David Atkinson) writes:
>>
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>>   From: atkinson@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (David Atkinson)
>>   Newsgroups: misc.invest
>>   Date: 22 Jul 92 19:27:12 GMT
>>   Sender: usenet@news.cso.uiuc.edu (Net Noise owner)
>>   Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
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>>
>>   I know this issue has been addressed before, and is probably a
>>   FAQ, but that doesn't mean I remember any of what's been said before. :)
>>
>>   What is the best way to buy gold (actual gold that I can hold in my
>>   hands)?  I have thought about American Eagle gold coins, but it seems
>>   that a large part of their selling price is due to numismatic value.
>>   I'm not looking to get into coin collecting; I just want gold.
>>
>>   In particular, I would like to buy small amounts like 1 oz. bars.
>>   My brief experience with silver taught me that the name of the refiner
>>   matters to people.  Apparently not all silver is respected.  I assume
>>   the same is true of gold.  Ideally, I'd like to have the US government's
>>   assurance of the purity, but I don't insist on it.
>>
>>   How closely can I expect the price I pay for an ounce of gold to match
>>   the price I read in the papers for gold?

	I got some maple leaf (canadian coins). They are good. Usually
the price of these coins will be more than the market price that we
see in the newspapers. I got it at the price(stock market Gold + $15).
And I think if you buy gold worth >= $1000.00 you will get some sales
tax deductions. You can try some krugerands too. They are slighly
cheaper. But same is the reputation they got. They come in 1oz coins.

>>
>>   Basically, I want to buy a few ounces of gold that no one will question
>>   the value of, at a price as close as possible to the quoted daily price
>>   for an ounce of gold.  Any suggestions on how this can be done?
>>

-sesha
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Seshagiri Rao Myneni                                     srm@ross.com
-ROSS Technology Inc., 5316 Hwy 290 West, Suite 500, Austin, TX 78735
-Work: (512) 892-7802 x264  fax: (512) 892-3036  Home: (512) 892-7993
From: Wayne.Briggs@p3.f26.n392.z1.fidonet.org (Wayne Briggs)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Depression & Bi-Polar
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:15:07 GMT
Reply-To: Wayne.Briggs@p3.f26.n392.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:392/26.3 - Star Express, Abilene Tx

Index Number: 23259

Do you know about the Manic-Depression Association ?

I'm dealing with a severe major depression that started improving
after anti-dewpessanty level was increased 50% and then improved
greatly after Dr. said she would amputate my arm at the shoulder in
the hope that PERHAPS it wwould reduce swelling & pain to either
improve quality of life or be able to work again.

Hope uor mdication levels stay therapeutic!

Good luck.

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From: David.Bond@p0.f810.n104.z1.fidonet.org (David Bond)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Artic, Pc Anywhere & Wp Office
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:44:19 GMT
Reply-To: David.Bond@p0.f810.n104.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:104/810.0 - Electronic Library, Denver CO
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23296

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 CC> She has Artic 3.03, and the most recent versions of PC Anywhere and
 CC> WordPerfect Office.  The idea is to use PC Anywhere to log onto the
 CC> work machine and run WP Office from home, using ABV on thel ocal
 CC> machine.
*part of original message edited out....continuing...
 CC> The problem they are finding is that some screens in WP Office talk
 CC> fine over this connection and others do not speak at all. The
 CC> connection works fine, btw-- it's only once they're into WP Office that
 CC> the seemingly random reading (or not reading) of the screen begins.

Hi Carla-

I am not experienced with PC-Anywhere, just WP Office 3.0 and Artic 3.03.
As I read your message, and sorry I am a little late with this reply by the
way, but as I was trying to think through what you might be having a problem
with, it occurred to me that there is probably a good chance that they are
running WP Office (locally) as a shell program.  Now I don't use the Office
program for business purposes, I use it at home for it's editor, WP
compatability, it's notebook database, and it's great file manager.  I *do
not* run it as a shell, but run each program separately from the Dos command
line.  Whenever I've tried to run the shell, I have never had any good
experiences because the screens just don't work fgood with speech for
whatever reason.  Colors change alot from screen to screen and the speech
software just can not keep up with all that is going on.  All these
programs, there are actually 4 programs, (editor, notebook, file manager, &
calendar) work great as stand alone programs and are relatively easy to set
up the speech software with.

Since you mentioned that the PC-Anywhere software seems to work good, I
can't help but think that it is something to do with the above.  If it is a
conflict with the shell, perhaps they can do something at the local end by
giving your friend access to DOS where she could run the necessary
program(s) as stand alone.  I know most companies don't want there employees
to have access to DOS, but maybe there is a way your friend could do it,
maybe there is software out there that can isolate the user from critical
files and information or provide restricted access to the user via a
password or something even while he/she is operating from the Dos command
line.

Sorry I can't be real helpful here, hope someone else is a little more
knowledgeable.

Dave

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From: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org (Joe Chamberlain)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Hospitals
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:10:50 GMT
Reply-To: Joe.Chamberlain@p1.f175.n150.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:150/175.1 - Busted Flush BBS, New Castle DE
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference

Index Number: 23347

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

In a message to Ed Stahl <12 Jul 92 19:01> John Rougeau wrote:

 JR> Unfortunately, I did not use the FF Plan.... I wasn't planning to
 JR> go soooo much! Sometimes my tickets were $1,000.00+ round trip!

The New England SCI Center was ranked one of the top 10 in the
country recently in a U.S.NEWS survey.  Boston is a lot closer than
Denver and may give you a new perspective.

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From: Carol.Ashland@f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Ashland)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Nls And nfb
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:03:36 GMT
Reply-To: Carol.Ashland@f56.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/56 - The Overworked Drag, Portland OR
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23323

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

In a message to Mike Freeman <07-14-92 14:46> Bill Koppelmann wrote:

BK>  recall sometime in the 80's I believe it was that the nfb was making
BK>  a
BK>  big to do about having a group of people who would help nls decide on
BK>  the kinds of books they should braille.  Somehow I've not heard about
BK>  that in the longest time.  Would you care to speak to that issue, and

I read in a Braille Book Review that that group is seeking input from
readers.  The Braille Book Review gave the names and addresses of all the
people on that committee.  As far as I am concerned, they do a terrible job.
 Mostly just junk that they braille and record.  I often envy people on the
BBSes who talk about reading this or that book, and I just do not have
access to them.  I wish it was really practical to read a book on the
Arkenstone, but it doesn't seem so to me.  What do some of you Arkenstone
users think?  That's the only advantage of the Kurzweil scanner:  their
book-edge scanner.

Carol

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From: Betsy.Fenti@f650.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Betsy Fenti)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: re: Using a computer without much muscle control
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:30:05 GMT
Reply-To: Betsy.Fenti@f650.n260.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/650 - School Board, Hornell NY

Index Number: 23444

I use the Magic Wand Keyboard on the Mac, but it is available for the
IBM too.  I paid $1433 (and still paying) for it.  The IBM version is
slightly cheaper.  About $1200 I think.  But it is well worth the $$.
My typing speed has improved about 25 times.  It would take me about
20 minutes to type this note before.  Now it only takes me about 2
minutes.  I love it.  In 4 months it has changed my life.

I will upload the address and telephone number next time.

I really want to get involved on this echo but everyone seems to know
everyone else.  I feel like an outsider.

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From: John.Hargrove@f68.n382.z1.fidonet.org (John Hargrove)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Indolight(sp)
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:41:41 GMT
Reply-To: John.Hargrove@f68.n382.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/68 - Diabetes Discussion, Austin TX

Index Number: 23288

In a message to John Hargrove <07-18-92 09:26> Drew Dunn wrote:

DD> have had 5 prosthetists that have all said that the last leg was a
DD> piece
DD> of junk, but they had the "perfect" leg for her.  And after talking

Haven't had five but am working with my second now.  Same office as
the first, even see my first off an on.  The firsts gotten real
busy going places checking on things so they brought in this new
guy.  He's a bit better in my book.

The first one I work with put me in 4 legs.  They came up to my
knee but restirct my bend and the pain.  When time came for my new
leg the new guy walk in and took a look at the old leg and said
something on the order of...to fix it this time we need a new
leg....  Okay by me I replyed.  He sat down and explained the
endolite to me and showed me two he was working on for other
customers.  When I saw the flex in the ankle that sold me.  All in
all this new guy is real good I think.

DD> One more thing.  Her prosthetist LISTENS.  He tries to let her find
DD> the
DD> solutions to the problem.  Something like this:

Both of mine listens.  At times I think I can make a leg the way
they talk to me.  They listen, I spell my guts and they suggest.
It's a lot of fun working with 'em both.

John

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From: Eric.Bohlman@p3.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Bohlman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Tinytalk 1.20
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:01:04 GMT
Reply-To: Eric.Bohlman@p3.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.3 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23312

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 DT>         Any kind of idea when 1.20 will be released?  How are things
 DT> going with it?

I'm working on fixing a few bugs that were detected at the last minute (they
only crop up in some unusual situations, but they're repeatable).  I also
gave in and implemented a "read current character" command for regular
cursor, independent cursor, and review mode.  The manual has been
substantially reorganized (for example, the discussion of window types no
longer comes several pages before the discussion of how to set them).  If
everything goes well, I'd expect it out next week.

 DT>         I understand that the new Echo has been delayed. Any idea how
 DT> soon they are going to release it, and will you extend the introductory
 DT> offer?

I talked to them last Thursday and it looked like they had it nearly ready.
I'm trying to determine whether what appears to be the one remaining problem
is an Echo problem or a Tinytalk problem (snippets of interrupted text coming
back).  There's one potential hardware problem; if you're using a battery and
it starts going low, the RS-232 voltages go out of spec even though the unit
can still talk, causing loss of handshaking.  They were considering putting in
a low-battery alert.

The introductory pricing will last as long as Echo (formerly Street) maintains
their introductory dealer price.  I've heard hints that they may extend it
beyond the end of August.

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From: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: speech synthesizer
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:43:57 GMT
Reply-To: dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil (Jude DaShiell)
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23230

If you mean telecommunications program you want to get mskermit
3.11.  It comes up talking and can go on line and dial numbers for
the user.  The vt100 configuration is best for serial.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
From: Lisa__Nofzinger@hikssrv.lib.purdue.edu (Lisa Nofzinger)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Health Insurance?
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:58:11 GMT
Reply-To: Lisa__Nofzinger@hikssrv.lib.purdue.edu (Lisa Nofzinger)

Index Number: 23240

I am losing my student status very soon and am seeking affordable
health insurance which will cover my pre-existing conditions
(asthma, bronchitis, scolosis, allergies).  I can continue with my
current policy, but they are increasing the premiums 4 times for
graduating students (which means I'd pay over $2000 a year).  I
hope to get a job which provides group health insurance with no
medical questions asked, but right now I don't have one.  I'd
rather stick with my current policy than have none at all, but it
seems expensive.  Is it, or is that the going cost?  Does anyone
have any info about this or know where to get it?  What do the rest
of you do?

I'd appreciate any info you can give.  Please e-mail me.  I'll be
losing my e-mail acccount after July 31.

Lisa Nofzinger

Lisa__Nofzinger@hikssrv.lib.purdue.edu
From: Daniel.Santos@f406.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Daniel Santos)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: HELLO
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:40:37 GMT
Reply-To: Daniel.Santos@f406.n203.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:203/406 - Sacramento Online!, Sacramento CA
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference

Index Number: 23285

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

I just logged onto this echo today and wanted to introduce myself.
I am Daniel Santos and I own Sacramento Orthopedic Appliance Co.
My father has been an amputee since before I was born and presently
wears a left, AK prosthesis.

I have been asked by a local group to aid in starting a support
group for recent and prospective amptutees.  I would appreciate any
help I could get towards that end.

In any case please feel free to introduce yourself.

Thanks, Daniel Santos

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From: Tim.Cumings@p0.f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org (Tim Cumings)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Braille n speak complaint
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:05:44 GMT
Reply-To: Tim.Cumings@p0.f460.n101.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:101/460.0 - VI/BUG, Holbrook MA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23406

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

"to me it is a seventeen hundred dollar note taker or a portable perkins
braille writer with speech and much more porbable than a perkins. you
know the old story tim, different strokes for different folks."

Well, Tandy, I think using the bns (either the 640 or the original,
which I have) is like anything else. If all you use it for is taking
notes, then that's all you may believe it's good for. However, if you
push it to its limits, it can be far more than a simple note taker or
Brailler. ,Aside from a note taker, I use my bns as a terminal  and a
speecch synthesizer for my computer, which I bought after my bns.

It's like people who go out and buy a 386 computer and just use it for
word processing. The problem with any type of technology is that people
don't use it to its fulest potential. This isn't meant as a criticism to
you, or to anyone in particular. I have the same problem. I've had my
386 since September and I'm _now just starting to teach myself to use
Wordperfect, although I've had it in my computer for the last three
months.

All I'm saying is, push the 640 to its limits before you dismiss it as
just a glorified note taker. Try hooking it up to your modem and
retrieving messages with it. I never go on-line with telix and my
computer if I'm just retrieving messages, because with the bns there's
no telecommunications program to hastle with.

Good luck with your 640, whatever you decide to do with it. The bns
isn't the _only option out there, but I think it's a viable one.

Some of us like chocolate, others like vanila.

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From: Doug.Coyle@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org (Doug Coyle)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: "blind loyalty"
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:51:48 GMT
Reply-To: Doug.Coyle@f6.n377.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:377/6 - T.A.B.B., Tampa Fl
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference

Index Number: 23199

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

She was a responsible,
JMindependent journalist who deserves credit for covering what
JMmany of her peers are afraid to do with depth and honesty..

I am a new federation member and as such cannot and will not
comment on your opinions of the federation.  You are entitled to
them especially since you were kicked out of the organization but I
do understand why those oldtimers are criticising the article Blind
Loyalty.

I used to belong to a religious organization which was headed by a
strong Charismatic leader with a heck of an ego which most
main-line churches considered a cult.  From time to time articles
about the organization would appear in the press, and I was always
amazed at the "journalistic spin" which would appear on most of
these.  There is a glaring example of this "english" in that
article which directly involves you.  When she mentioned your
expulsion from the organization she slipped it in that you are
black. What difference does it make that you are black?  Needless
to say she did not assert or state that your being black had
anything to do with your expulsion, and neither did you, but the
mere mention of your racial persuasion in that context consciously
or subconsciously at the very least leads to some interesting leaps
of logic.  If I were you I think I would have been in the woman's
face about that.  It would be a similar situation, let's say, if I
were walking down the street here in my town and somebody snuck up
behind me and hit me over the head and  robbed me.  The paper would
probably say, "Blind (emphasis on the blind) resident mugged on the
way to bus stop."  Anything to get that extra little zizz in
there.  Regarding that other organization I belonged to, the only
"fair" article I ever saw done was a series of articles a reporter
did in the local paper in the city where one of their colleges was.
He spent a week living with us as if he were a student and wrote
five articles about the experience.
The articles were fair even though not everything he wrote was in
the organization's favor. The paper published all five of them, and
the reporter was subsequently fired because the ministerial
association got angry with the paper for giving the college so much
space and not there churches.  That doesn't have anything to do
with anything, but it's interesting how politics works.

d/c
===
 * SLMR 2.1a * Tha theea tha theea tha theea that's all, folks

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