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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Question about 'The First Duty' (no spoilers)
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 13:40:37 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: clin@pepsi.eng.umd.edu


In article <1992Apr8.055953.23522@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu>, jedenney@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Jason E Denney) writes:
>
>I was wondering if one of the female members of Nova Squadron was Wes's
>girlfriend from 'The Game'?  I don't have them on tape, but she looked
>very familiar.
>
>

    I doubt it.  His girlfriend in "The Game" had just gotten out of the
Academy.   The name's of the characters are different.  I would also guess that 
the actress is different too, but I don't keep track.

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From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: Boothby and Picard: TFD 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Keywords: TFD
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:48:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.173140.25324@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> heather@hub.toronto.edu (Heather Hinton) writes:
>In `The Game', when Wes returns to the Enterprise, there is a
>wonderfully heart-warming (read: stomach-churning) scene where Wes and
>Picard discuss the academy.  Picard had told Wes to introduce himself to
>Boothby on an earlier epsiode, and then in `The Game' asks how Boothby
>is doing.  
>
>Doesn't Wesley reply that Boothby didn't remember who Picard was?  If
>so, how come Boothby suddenly is able to recognize Picard and list all
>his accomplishments?  What gives?
>

Maybe Boothby knew it would get back to Picard and just want to bust his
nuts.

Regards,
Janis C.
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TOS & The Boseman in "Cause & Effect" (Spoilers)
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:44:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr13.184438.27795
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

In article <1992Apr13.123430.5013@ac.dal.ca> lennon@ac.dal.ca writes:
>
>First off, Geordi is a butthead. That aside, TNG occurs 80 years after STVI,

78 years after STIV.  We don't know when STVI takes place-- estimates range 
from +3 to +10 years (relative to ST4).

>i.e. AFTER Kirk and the rest of the crew of the first, best enterprise have
>moved on to greener pastures. Its is likely that Cap'n Fraser would not have
>been a colleague of Kirk at the time he was Captain of Enterprise.
>What he should have done, is protest that so ugly a ship could have been
>called Enterprise (I am referring to NCC1701D) - but my personal opinion

Agreed.  1701-D is the ugliest ship to ever be called Enterprise.

>is that he and First Officer Lillith along with Helmsman Norm and Science 
>officer Cliff were all wasted.

Do you know how much real actors *cost*? :)


-- 
"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few-- or the one." 

hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu                          Gene Roddenberry 1921-1991
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From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: Wesley and Alexander
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:51:23 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.003003.29257@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.001055.20359@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>>                                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>Hold on a second. I'm in perfect agreement wrt the kid who plays Alexander.
>>But if you're implying that Wil Wheaton can't act, I'd like you to cite
>>some evidence.
>
>Season 1.

Okay, I'll cite seasons 3 through 5 as counter-evidence, then. Even
in season 1, the only time I thought he did a bad job of acting was
in JUSTICE ("I'm with Starfleet. We don't lie.") They did a godawful job 
of *writing* the character, and lord, he grates on me -- but I can't pin 
it down to his acting.


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TNG Lifelines: From "Yesterday's Enterprise" To "The First Duty" --
  "Prior to Starfleet Academy commencement ceremonies, an in-flight
   accident destroys five ships, including the one carrying Wesley
   Crusher" -- TV Guide: Mar. 28 - Apr. 3

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From: dwk1@kepler.unh.edu (David W Kimball)
Subject: Re: those things on their belts
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:26:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.165332.29832@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori) writes:
>In article <HENDRICK.92Apr16123516@marlins.ctron.com> hendrick@ctron.com (Jim Hendrick) writes:
>>>    enterprise goes back to tasha's home planet, when tasha's sister was
>>>    beaming down to the colony to help rescue the crewmen,  she had on a
>>>    blue jumpsuit with matching blue phaser holster.  how nice, they must
>>
>>Who noticed the holster ???
>>
>>Sorry, just an avid Linda Hamilton fan. ;-)
>
>Sorry to burst your bubble; that wasn't Linda Hamilton.
>
>Ishara Yar was played by Beth Touissant (IMO, a highly mediocre
>and flat actress.)
     ^^^^

I don't know, I think she filled out that blue spandex outfit of hers
pretty well.  :-) :-) :-) :-)

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>TNG Lifelines: From "Yesterday's Enterprise" To "The First Duty" --
>  "Prior to Starfleet Academy commencement ceremonies, an in-flight
>   accident destroys five ships, including the one carrying Wesley
>   Crusher" -- TV Guide: Mar. 28 - Apr. 3
>


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From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: Troi's mother and Alexandra
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:25:15 GMT


Spoilers for the preview of COST OF LIVING:



In article <1992Apr14.001105.7546@acsu.buffalo.edu> v128r82w@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ralph L d'Ambrosio) writes:



>What is it do you people have against this two. First of all, I thing Troi's
>mother is incredible funny who does make an episode very interesting. 

I've got nothing against Lwaxana. I've always managed to turn my brain
off and enjoy her appearances. This is likely to be the exception, though.


>Now I
>agree I was not two crazy about the last episode with Alexandra because I 
>thought it was boring, but come on. The kid did not ruin it. 

First, it's "Alexander". Second, he wasn't the only problem with ETHICS,
to be sure, but he certainly brought it down. That "cover the eyes with
the palms; shake and bake" business at Worf's side still ranks as one of
most laughable pieces of "acting" I've ever seen on TNG and expertly destroyed 
whatever sense of gravity was remaining in that scene.

It didn't help that his first scene in that ep was yet another 
"screaming tantrum" routine either.


>Also, jow can 
>people say that this episode is a cliche with Alexandra in it when
>the kid has been in only 3 episodes.

Gee, let's see. Worf and Alexander don't get along. Alexander is acting
like a spoiled brat straight out of a sitcom ("I hate him.") A 
tacked-on-menace; Alex's life is in danger and Worf has to save him.

Are we talking about NEW GROUND or CoL? You tell me.


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TNG Lifelines: From "Yesterday's Enterprise" To "The First Duty" --
  "Prior to Starfleet Academy commencement ceremonies, an in-flight
   accident destroys five ships, including the one carrying Wesley
   Crusher" -- TV Guide: Mar. 28 - Apr. 3
From: wilde@husc8.harvard.edu (Robert Wilde)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Boothby and Picard: TFD
Keywords: TFD
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:47:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Apr8.204725.10863
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Apr8.173140.25324@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> heather@hub.toronto.edu (Heather Hinton) writes:
>In `The Game', when Wes returns to the Enterprise, there is a
>wonderfully heart-warming (read: stomach-churning) scene where Wes and
>Picard discuss the academy.  Picard had told Wes to introduce himself to
>Boothby on an earlier epsiode, and then in `The Game' asks how Boothby
>is doing.  
>
>Doesn't Wesley reply that Boothby didn't remember who Picard was?  If
>so, how come Boothby suddenly is able to recognize Picard and list all
>his accomplishments?  What gives?

	I believe Wes responds that Boothby didn't remember him at first,
anyone with this episode videotaped care to check?

Bob
From: morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Shabang's First Duty rating.
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:26:48 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

You know, the only problem with Wesley C is that he just looks so wimpy.  
If he were to pump (*clap*) it up, and get some structure to his body and 
face, he would look a whole lot less nerdish, but I digress (so what else 
is new?).

On to First Duty.  Well the Shabang-o-meter was really ready to bash the 
hell out of this one, being a Wesley story and all.  But lo and behold (a 
rather strange phrase that is), it was very good.  It gets a 9.  Kept my 
attention throughout.

Next Week:  Oh when IS the season going to end?

Siobahn (Shabang) Morgan
morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu

Starburst candies - banned at SFA.
From: rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Grading scales
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:22:56 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr4.054629.13506@cco.caltech.edu> tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch) writes:
>Y'know, I was going to preface this with a "this is the last time I plan to
>ever discuss something like this", but since Drew's posted the r.a.s.*
>drinking game, I think I'll help keep you all sober.  :-)

For months (well, weeks) I've been reading this net hoping to get a copy
of the r.a.s.* drinKing game - I take one short vacation, and you post
it behind my back (sob, sob, sob).\

If there is one kind soul willing to take a break from discussing rating
scales to mail me a copy, I would be forever in your debt.

>
>Tim Lynch (Cornell's first Astronomy B.A.; one of many Caltech grad students)
>			--Allan Sandage

Sandy     rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu           Bi, Queer, Proud
                                              (Outcast?  Hated it! *snap*)
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From: harwood@cs.tulane.edu (Doug Harwood)
Subject: Troi
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-29449]: amor
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 22:32:08 GMT

    Well, while reading through the pile of articles today, I was making a
list of bad arguments and dead horses, kinda like the ones I complained
about last week.  However, I got to the info article about this newsgroup,
and it said something about flame wars and personal complaints, so I'm
not going to post anything about the herd of dead horses here.
    Well, on to my points...

    I think Troi's butt is getting bigger.  This week, it was especially
large.
    On a similar note, why is Picard bald?  Wouldn't modern science provide
for baldness?  Maybe Steward didn't want to wear a wig?  *shrug*
    Too bad Elvis can't visit the Genesis Planet.  He was a great singer.
    Which is faster: The Enterprise-D or Battlestar Galactica?


    Also, people have mailed me about editing my kill file.  I'd do that,
but then I'd have no articles to read on this group.  Anyway, there are
a few subjects worthwhile.

    Sorry for the wasted space.  I'm just going with the flow.
-- 
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From: kyle@uunet.uu.net (Kyle Jones)
Subject: Re: Lacarno = Kirk (Spoilers "1st Duty)
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:15:07 GMT

kyle@uunet.uu.net (Kyle Jones) writes:
 > Nay, I'd say Locarno has learned the lessons of life very well
 > No need to take the heat for something when you don't have to,
 > particularly if you can blame someone who is already dead, and
 > mostly responsible for their own death anyway.  Wesley was
 > naive, and he let Picard bully him into making a stupid
 > confession.

chaplin@keinstr.uucp (Roger Chaplin) writes:
 > Since I don't see any smileys anywhere in this article, I say,
 > "Pity those who are forced by life's circumstances to interact
 > with you person-to-person."

My intent was to put forth an alternate viewpoint to the apparent
assumption here that one should always tell the truth, in all
contexts.  I am not advocating that you lie, cheat, steal and
stab anyone who gets in your way in the back.  I'm asking that
people look at this situation as an individual case and THINK
about it, instead of making snap moral judgements.  Neither our
society nor that of the Federation and Starfleet have all that
much high moral ground from which to cast judgement.
From: cortese@hepxvt.ps.uci.edu (Janis Maria Cortese)
Subject: Re: Troi's Mom-To Know Her Is To Hate Her
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:04:11 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.180439.6911@menudo.uh.edu> HADCDJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A) writes:
>In <1992Apr15.184602.6385@cbfsb.cb.att.com> kalel@cbnewsg.cb.att.com writes:
>
>(diatribe against Mrs. Rodenberry deleted)
>
>	Ahem.  Well, at least you aren't suppressing your feelings!  However, I 
>do belive you're being a bit harsh in your estimate of her acting ability. While
>her turn as Nurse Chapel was hardly Academy Award material, I've seen plenty
>worse in regular, successful tv show and movies.  Which is not an excuse, I 
>grant, but should be taken into consideration.
>	I think she does just fine as Troi's mom, and brings a degree of breathy
>humor which the show can use now and again.  And her dramatic turn in the 
>episode with the scientist (played by David Ogden Stiers) who is returning home
>to die (I forget the name of the episode) ought to make a believer out of you.

Hear, hear.  I *love* her -- Auntie Mame in space.  After having so many
plaid-pants interactions between the cardboards they have manning thew
ship, I like to see a character who laughs out loud, gets pissed, and
wheedles people, like a REAL person.

That one line, "Well, why the hell not?!" in the episode you mention
(Half A Life) was marvelous.

Regards,
a Lwaxana fan
From: bill@math.psu.edu (Bill Conn)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Asimov's cameo lost, too :-(
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:53:54 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, Pennsylvania State University

In article <1992Apr7.140135.2275@ducvax.auburn.edu> dsturm@ducvax.auburn.edu writes:

>   Shame on the TNG staff for not following thru on the script that
>   had Data talking to a holographic Asimov on the holodeck...
>
>   No way to do that one now   :-(


You're right.  But wait a few years.  Then it will be possible to
"generate" Asimov for the part.


    -Bill
From: schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Trek Uniforms New and Old (was:Bozeman Crew Not Stupid!)
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:04:43 GMT
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973

In article <mDsRiB5w164w@berry.Cary.NC.US> pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:
>dascoser.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:
Mini-spoiler (possibly) for Cause and Effect...



>> What I'm curios about is how long the red uniforms lasted. I mean we see 
>> them on the Boseman's crew from (at least) 80 years earlier, and we also 
>> see them on the crew of the E-C from 20-odd years earlier. Considering 
>> the relitive brevity of the TOS and TMP uniforms, that's a pretty long 
>> time for one style of uniform.
>
>It's not one style, dammit!  Sometime between ST VI and the destruction

Relax, Pat.  Go outside and get some air for a while...

>of the Enterprise-C, the uniforms were altered.  The turtleneck shirts
>and the wide black belts with the circular buckles were eliminated.  The
>resulting uniforms were *similar* to the ones worn in the movies, but
>*not* the same.  Am I really the only person who has noticed this?


No, I noticed it.  I thought it was an unecessary move to try and make
the uniforms look different from St movie uniforms.  You might have also
noticed that while the black belts were missing, the belt loopholes were
still on the uniforms!  Being an alert viewer, this bothered me.  The
'forms looked incomplete without at least the turtlenecks.  Kind of like
buttoning a shirt up to the top and forgetting to wear a tie.



>
>
>Pat Berry                    pat@berry.Cary.NC.US


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From: tlynch@cco.caltech.edu (Timothy W. Lynch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Lacarno = Kirk (Spoilers "1st Duty)
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:24:54 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena

pealbers@descartes.waterloo.edu (Paul E. Albers) writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.182703.14439@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> apearlma@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Andrew Pearlman) writes:
>>In article <mal6657.702494263@tamsun.tamu.edu> mal6657@tamsun.tamu.edu (Mark A. Lindsay) writes:

>>>	The main difference that I see between Kirk and Locarno is that
>>>Locarno had no sense of responsibility.  

I wouldn't go quite that far, but I think that Locarno is perhaps Kirk
taken to just slightly more of an extreme than he actually was.  Just one
step further over the line.

>>What about the Kobayashi Maru scenario that he reprogrammed in the academy?
>>As Picard pointed out, if Locarno had actually been successful, he would
>>have thrilled the audience and become a living legend at the academy.
>>
>>Kirk couldn't deal with the no-win scenario at that time and neither could
>>Locarno.

>Kirk already had dealt with the test before 

No.  I've said this before, but:

Kirk had *taken* the test before.  But based on his own statements about it
in ST2, he obviously hadn't *dealt* with anything relating to it except his
own smashed ego.

This point was driven home exceedingly well by the end of the film; Kirk
finally had to face death, and he didn't know how.  Was I watching a different
film?

Tim Lynch
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From: ys3359@thor.albany.edu (Yazmasterj)
Subject: Re: Locarno = Kirk (Spoilers "First Duty"))
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 22:04:43 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.174843.2572@orionsci> goodwin@orionsci.UUCP (Ben Goodwin) writes:
>Nope, its not that I refuse, its just that arguing from logic (something I
>try not to do) you and others have based this opinion on almost 100% pure
>speculation.  The *only* thing I remember ever hearing about Kirk's
>academy days was the KM test.  You and others are trying to predict
>(hum, not the right word, but it will do) Kirk's personality in 
>the Academy based upon how you see him 15 years after the academy.  For
>all you know he might have been a studious totally serious student
>who spent all hist time trying to be number one in his class.  After he
>made it he went on from there.

Actually there is support for the theory that Kirk was a totally serious
student in the TOS episode Shoreleave.  When Kirk and McCoy are chatting
while following the rabbit tracks, Kirk says to McCoy that he was
positively grim and Finnegan had a great time throwing the very serious
Kirk off-balance.

Yasmin

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From: jogle@nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Comment on Wesley's room (First Duty)
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:39:49 GMT
Reply-To: jogle@nrao.edu
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory

In article 12501@usenet.ins.cwru.edu, bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:
>
>The door had a doorknob, and it swung open.  Awfully low tech, dontcha
>think?
>
>Either there's some point to this, or the average college dormitory in
>the 24th century is as old and unmodern as the ones today.  :-)

That was exactly what I and my friends (all still in college) said when we
saw Wes' room; "They've stuck him in the oldest dorm on campus!"

Maybe the Enterprise figure came with the rooms original decor.... 8-)

---
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, Torg guru)
jogle@nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."
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Subject: Re: Why 3 in "Cause and Effect?"
From: ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:38:09 EST
 <1992Mar31.001107.1007@morrow.stanford.edu> <1992Apr6.062030.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> <3241@vidiot.UUCP>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <3241@vidiot.UUCP>, brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
> In article <1992Apr6.062030.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

> <Why didn't Data choose the "obvious" and send a message of "Riker"?!
> <Same number of characters as "three", after all, and a lot less ambiguious!
> 
> That's "3", not "three".  Remember that it was previously determined that only
> a few characters could be transmitted.  Five characters is more than a few (3).
> -- 
>       harvard\     att!nicmad\          spool.cs.wisc.edu!astroatc!vidiot!brown
> Vidiot  ucbvax!uwvax..........!astroatc!vidiot!brown
>       rutgers/            INTERNET:vidiot!brown%astroatc.UUCP@spool.cs.wisc.edu
>                                    brown@wi.extrel.com
-- 

Y'know... One would have thought that 13 years of working with computers
would've taught me a little bit about how technology works -- I guess not!

(Not to mention the fact that my previous claim of "Riker" being the
obvious choice was pretty misguided in any case -- "Bay" would've probably
done the job, too!) Sigh.
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