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From: wayne@ita.lgc.com (Wayne McCormick)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Win 3.1 hangs
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:19:26 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Landmark/ITA Inverse Theory and Applications


I installed Windows 3.1 on my 486/25 this weekend.  My initial impression is
well o.k., it's nice.

But I have one problem.  During the install it told me to remove cmdedit from
my autoexec and vdefend (pc tools) from my config file.  So I did, and the
install went cleanly.  After this I installed the new TSENG 4000 drivers
that I downloaded from wuarchive.  This works fine.  I could exit and enter
windows with out a hitch.  Then I restored vdefend to my config, deleted some
files and directories (non-windows stuff), and then rebooted my machine.
After it came back up I started windows and everything worked o.k.  I played
with Word for a little while, checking out the True Type fonts.  Then later
when I went to leave windows it hung!  ALT-CTL-DEL to reboot and I took
vdefend out of config and tried again.  This time it rebooted all by itself.
At no time do I get a warning or an error message.

This is how my config.sys file looks.  The HIMEM, EMM386, and SMARTDRV are the
way that windows set them up at install.

DEVICE=C:\DOS\SETVER.EXE
FILES=30
BREAK=ON
BUFFERS=25
LASTDRIVE=F
SWITCHES=/W
SHELL=C:\DOS\COMMAND.COM C:\DOS\ /E:1024 /p
DEVICE=C:\bin\win31\HIMEM.SYS
DEVICE=C:\bin\win31\EMM386.EXE
DEVICE=C:\bin\win31\SMARTDRV.EXE /DOUBLE_BUFFER
DOS=HIGH
STACKS=9,256
DEVICEHIGH=C:\USR\BIN\PCTOOLS\VDEFEND.SYS



Has anyone had a similar experience?  Or can someone tell me what might be
wrong?

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Wayne McCormick                  | Landmark/ITA, Inverse Theory & Applications
wmccormick@ita.lgc.com           | Calgary, Alberta, Canada  
                                 | Phone:(403) 269-4669
From: fahole@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: NDW 2.0
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:15:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Apr13.201551.54447
Organization: Utah State University

In article <eVV4iB3w164w@olson.acme.gen.nz>, stefan@olson.acme.gen.nz (Stefan Olson) writes: 
> Microsoft if you are reading this: Has Excel 4 changed the file format??

Yes, the file format has changed in Excel 4.0

David Hole                  FAHOLE@USU
Utah State University       FAHOLE@CC.USU.EDU
Logan, UT                   Just say snow!
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: amb43790@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tony Brummett)
Subject: DOS in a Window
Keywords: DOS, window, help
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 05:01:43 GMT

  I recently got Windows 3.1 (I guess it's recently for most of us who have
it). Everything was going fine, until I tried to open my icon for command.com
in a window (yes, I do have a 386). The window opened and it put the message
about pressing alt+enter and stuff. Then, another window opened up and said
"You cannot run this application in a window..." I can press alt+enter twice
in a row to make it full screen, then back to a window. So, I know that it
does run in a window. I changed the PIF I was using to the MS-DOS Prompt
PIF and changed only the "windowed" option, but the same thing happened.
BTW, I had no problems doing this in 3.0

So, I was wondering if any of you had any idea on how to fix this...
Thanks in advance.

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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: akm@getafix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal)
Subject: Re: Winword 2.0a --> The case of the lost mouse pointer.
Summary: happened with 1.1 also: a feature
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:02:14 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.065553.8583@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> btsg6965@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Briand T Sanderson) writes:
>Has anyone had a similar experience: I started using Winword 2.0a after
>installing Windows 3.1. Now it seems, whenever I type, the mouse pointer 
>disappears. It reappears when I touch the mouse, but if I start to type, it
>goes away again. 

I ran an experiment using 1.1 a year ago, and noticed the same
behavior. I always thought it was a 'feature' that the mouse cursor
was hidden when you started typing. It would be distracting otherwise
to have two cursors. Because it always comes back with the first
WM_MOUSEMOVE message from the mouse, it shouldn't be a problem.

kartik




-- 
Anant Kartik Mithal                                     akm@cs.uoregon.edu
Network Manager, Phd Student				(503)346-3989
Department of Computer Science,                         (503)346-5373 (fax)
University of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403-1202
From: sjo@cci632.cci.com (Steve Owens)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Boo Hiss MicroSoft
Keywords: Marketing Scam
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:50:26 GMT
Reply-To: sjo@op632.UUCP (Steve Owens)
Organization: CCI, Communications Systems Division, Rochester, NY

In article <1992Apr7.200005.10227@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> rschmidt@copper.ucs.indiana.edu (roy schmidt) writes:
>Well, when my copy was delivered at 2:45 pm on Monday, I remarked to the
>FEDEX delivery person, "You're late!"  She said, "No, the code right
>here on the package says deliver by 4:30 pm on Tuesday, so it's actually
>a day early!"
>
>Yes, folks, Microsoft lied.

	Geez, I must be the only one who was happy with the delivery
arrangements.

	I ordered mine last Thursday, and I was told it would be there
"within the next 10 days."  Tuesday I came home from work to find a 
FedEx notice on my door.

	I wished I could get more of this type of service from mail order.

>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Roy Schmidt                 |  #include <disclaimer.h>     
>Indiana University          |  /* They are _my_ thoughts, so you can't
>School of Business          |     have them, so there! */


						SJO
From: drv@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dennis.r.vogel)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Win3.1 Delay ..
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:10:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsj.1992Apr9.191047.5538
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr9.165610.1949@sbcs.sunysb.edu>, altman@sbpmt.cs.sunysb.edu (Jeff Altman) writes:
> 
> AllType versions 1.0 and 1.1 do not correctly convert Type 1 fonts to TrueType.

Can you be more specific?  Is there a generic problem that
prevents all fonts from working?  Or only specific fonts?
Or only specific aspects of some fonts?  Anything that can
help us decide if we should wait for the new version or
muddle through for now would be helpful.

Dennis R. Vogel
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Middletown, NJ
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: daw50509@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Don A. Walthers)
Subject: Re: HELP!! Windows 3.0 do not open DOS in a window.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: comp.windows.ms
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 05:42:33 GMT

ibm@dit.upm.es (Ignacio Bellido Montes) writes:


>Hi netters!!

>	I own a 386SX 16MHz, VGA 4 Mbytes computer. I'm not a windows fan, so,
>sometime ago I installed it (3.0). My problem comes because when I tried to
>start a non windows aplication (just Command) I said that it was impossible to
>run the application in a window or in the background (386 Enhaced mode). I
>tried every configuration possible in the PIF file. I didn't get a solution.
>The computer is an Intel with Phoenix BIOS 1.10.18, The README.TXT file in the
>distribution talks about AT&T and Phoenix BIOS 1.10.14 or earlier. I checked
>my configuration and it's OK, so I don't know what to do. I'd like to ask two
>questions:

>	1) Are there any solution to this under 3.0?

>	2) Does Windows 3.1 avoid the problem?

>Thanks to everybody in advance.

>				Ignacio
it's pretty much common knowledge that win3.0 does not run most doss apps 
in a window. if it's a text-only app you might have some luck but they just
don't work the same. if the app comes with its own .pif (ie. QModem) then
you usually don't have a problem. in fact, qmodem works great in a window
but i still use it under dos because redrawing the screen in a window is 
slower than a garden slug. as far as win3.1, microsoft claims better dos
support but who knows what that means.

don walthers - daw50509@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: Didier.Kieffer@fifi.univ-lyon1.fr
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Win 3.1 and displaying 256 colors with a VGA card ...
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:49:08 GMT
Organization: INSA Informatique, Lyon, France
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: fifi.univ-lyon1.fr


I'm running Windows 3.1 on an IBM PS/2 P70 with a VGA display card
(640*480 256k) and external color monitor ...
The problem is that I can't access to 256 colors when being under
windows ... For example, Wallpapers in 256 colors are not showed in
256 colors !!
I have no problems under DOS to display files with 256 colors ... 
(and the colors are here !!!!)
Can you tell me what I can do ?
Which driver can I use ??

Please reply by E-Mail ...
Thanx ...

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Departement informatique                     or kief@riri.univ-lyon1.fr
INSA Lyon
FRANCE
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From: zzassgl@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Geoff Lane)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: The difference between selecting a window and the input focus.
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:04:53 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Road, Manchester, M13 9PL, England.


I may be missing the obvious, but in Windows 3.0 it does not seem possible
to move the input focus to a window without that same window also being
brought to the front. Is this true? If it is not then what do I have to do
to change the behaviour so that selecting a window to be brought to the top
of the pile by, for instance, clicking on the title bar does not also move
the input focus.  I can do this on other kinds of window manager on other
OSs and the apparent inability of Windows 3.0 to do this always catches me
out. 


-- 
Geoff. Lane.                                  Janet: zzassgl@uk.ac.mcc.uts
UTS Sys Admin, Manchester Computing Centre, Oxford Rd, Manchester, M13 9PL
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Subject: Re: Win 3.1+W4W 2.0: equations still not printing
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:40:51 GMT

kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie) whines:

[...]
>Maybe I just have my fonts set up wrong (equation
>editor/style/define). If so, I would be grateful if someone would tell
>me the correct setup.
[...]

The solution was to get TTF fonts from the W2W disk (see articles ">MS
W4W 2.0 and WIN 3.1 -- Install the TrueType Fonts!").

A typical (and default) font set up for the equation editor is:

Times New Roman
Times New Roman
Times New Roman (Italics)
Symbol
Symbol
Symbol
Times New Roman (Roman)
Times New Roman

- Carl


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Carl Kadie -- kadie@cs.uiuc.edu -- University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca (Joel Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: To Canadians who ordered the Win3.1 upgrade directly from MS
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:34:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: mindlink.11310
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

Has anyone who ordered the Windows 3.1 upgrade directly from Microsoft Canada
received it yet?

My brother and I ordered our copies when we each received the upgrade flyer on
March 23.  It's now April 7 and neither of us has received anything via FedEx
yet.

Has anyone received the upgrade?

Please, no responses from those of you who already purchased 3.1 from Egghead:
we have four Eggheads here in Vancouver, all of which had the upgrade first
thing Monday morning.  :-(

--

       Joel Murray / Vancouver, British Columbia  /  Canada, Eh?
       Joel_Murray@mindlink.bc.ca               CIS:  73200,3117

Ligneous and petrous projectiles can potentially fracture my osseous 
structure, but pejorative appellations will forever remain innocuous.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: donnel@helix.nih.gov (Donald A. Lehn)
Subject: Re: Why I'm sticking with Windows
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:28:57 GMT

Another perspective on why to stick to Windows.  I have 5 IBM Model 80
PS/2's with 2 mb ram and 80 mb hard drives.  These machines are perfectly
adequate Windows platforms.  To upgrade to OS/2 2.0 for these machines
would require 4 mb ram ($600.00) and at least another 80 mb hard disk
($800.00).  [PS/2 upgrades are not cheap.]  For the same $1400.00 I can
buy a 386 clone with svga graphics, 80 mb hard drive, 4 mb memory and
with DOS 5.0 and Windows included in the bundle. 

Although I wont have the "true" software multitasking of OS/2, I will have
the Windows, more than adequate flavor of multitasking, and, with 2x
the number of computers, be able to 'multitask' the human interface.


--
Donald A. Lehn, Ph.D.                      Phone: (301) 496-2885
Bldg.37 Rm 3D20                            FAX:   (301) 496-8419
National Cancer Institute / NIH            Email: donnel@helix.nih.gov
Bethesda MD 20892
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: lauch@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Chung Lau)
Subject: Re: SMARTDRV 4.0 weirdness
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:43:26 GMT

In article <TPy4iB4w164w@upchrch.UUCP> joel@upchrch.UUCP (Joel Upchurch  ) writes:
>lauch@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Chung Lau) writes:
>
>>   Boy I would think smartdrv 4.0 should be able to change the cache
>> size on the fly, guess not.
>
>It can, when you think about it, or it wouldn't be able to change the
>cache size when Windows starts.

  What I meant was it should be able to change the size on the fly
to what the *USER* wanted.  

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Stephen Lau, Electrical Engineering, Univ. of Hawaii           
Internet: lauch@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu, Stephen_Lau@asylum.flex.com
From: leoh@hardy.hdw.csd.harris.com (Leo Hinds)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: MS Draw - WfW 4.0 - Postscript Problem
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:02:27 GMT
Organization: Harris Computer Systems, Ft. Lauderdale, FL

In article <1992Apr8.135332.65616@research.ptt.nl> halderen@research.ptt.nl writes:
>I have been having difficulties with using the MS Draw program that came
>with Word for Windows 2.0. Sometimes when i use dotted or dashed lines
>in a drawing the whole picture suddenly becomes dotted or dashed. This
>only happens when i print the picture on a Postscript printer. The picture
>looks just fine on screen and on matrix-printers.

>Does anyone else have this problem? I have already tried the postscript
>drivers version 3.4, 3.4A and 3.4B. Nothing works though. Microsoft told
>me that there could be a problem with my video driver (TRIDENT 8900c), but
>i really cannot imagine that this the problem.

I specifically do not, but one of my co-workers does - exactly as you 
described.  In his case he is using a Paradise card with 256k running in 
800x600x16 to a QMS PS printer using the QMS modified version of 3.4 
PSCRPT.DRV - sounds like a Microsoft bug to me.


leoh@hdw.csd.harris.com         	Leo Hinds       	(305)973-5229
Gfx ... gfx ... :-) whfg orpnhfr V "ebg"grq zl fvtangher svyr lbh guvax V nz n
creireg ?!!!!!!? ... znlor arkg gvzr
From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: AfterDark 2.0 - ? 256 colours
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:48:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: mwunix.jcmorris.702766123
Organization: Mitre Corporation, McLean VA

In article <92092.075805SASTPH@vm.sas.com>, Tim Hunter writes:
> Not that anybody asked, but I just installed AfterDark 2.0.  I'm an unabashed
> fan of this program, and signed up for version 2.0 immediately upon receiving
> my upgrade notice.

When did you get your upgrade notice?  Based on comments on the net it 
sounds like the upgrades have been out for a while, but I've not seen
anything from Berkeley...

Joe Morris
From: reynaldo@athena.mit.edu (Rey Villarreal)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: AmiPro 2.0 and Postscript
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:12:33 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

I want to know is possible to import postscript drawings into AmiPro(I
used Idraw to create the drawings). Is their some kind of conversion
utility such as a postscript to clipboard or gif converter. If so 
where can I get this.

PS anyone know where I can get a resume style sheet.
Xref: sparky comp.windows.ms:11848 comp.lang.c++:6578
From: bchen@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Benjamin Chen)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms,comp.lang.c++
Subject: Zortech Debugger and Windows 3.1
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:58:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: agate.rtk0bINNg9t
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu

I've noticed people having trouble with turbo debugger for windows.
I can't even start my Zortech debugger for windows in 3.1, which
worked fine under 3.0.  I double click on the zdbw icon and nothing
happens except a little hard disk access.  Not even an error message.
Ack.  Anyone else have this problem?

	BC

-- 
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Office:   550-A4 Cory Hall, 2-4332
UUCP:     !ucbvax!cad!bchen               
HEPNET:   LBL::"bchen@cad.Berkeley.EDU"
From: lygre@hsr.no (Eirik Lygre)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Re: Why go to 3.1 if 2.0 works
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:16:49 GMT
Organization: Rogaland University Centre

In article <moore.703184477@pv34c1.vincent.iastate.edu> moore@iastate.edu (Brian J Moore) writes:
>In <2377@accucx.cc.ruu.nl> nevries@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Nico de Vries.) writes:
>
>>Which apps? OS/2 does run all existing apps.
>>
>>Nico de Vries
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>USENET: nevries@cc.ruu.nl                 FIDO      : 2:281/708.1  (very new)>-- 
>
>How many are 32-bit?
>   ________________________________________________________________________
>  /                                  /                                    /
> /  Brian J. Moore                  /                  moore@iastate.edu /
>/__________________________________/____________________________________/

The number of os/2 apps number in the low thousands. Not many are 32-bit yet
(Hey! What do you expect from an os released 14 days ago?)

Anyway, *many* are planned. More or less the entire lotus suite is promised
for this year, as is WordPerfect, Borland C++... More than 800 ISVs are
working on 32-bit os/2 apps.

Eirik Lygre
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com (Russ Poffenberger)
Subject: Re: Fastdisk or 32 bit access in Win 3.1
Organization: Schlumberger Technologies, ATE division, San Jose, Ca.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 20:22:07 GMT

lchang@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Ling Chang) writes:
: Hi!  someone recently mentiones that fastdisk in win 3.1 can be turned
: on withe the 32BitDiskAccess, device=*int13, device=*wdctrl in system.ini
: 
: Fast disk was not installed on my PS/2 55SX because the setup could not
: determine compatibility.  I was wondering whether it will be safe to
: force fast disk by adding those lines.  Microsoft Tech adviced against it.
: Anybody tried this?  What can go wrong?
: 
: On a related note, the PS/2 or PC DOS comes with a utility called Fastopen.
: Should I use this in conjunction with Smartdrv and win 3.1 or will it only
: slow things down rather than speed things up?  I has always used it with
: no problems but will it be faster if I not use it?
: 

It states in the upgrade that the 32bit disk driver is NEVER turned on by
default because it may cause problems with battery powered portables. You
must enable it manually.

Russ Poffenberger               DOMAIN: poffen@sj.ate.slb.com
Schlumberger Technologies       UUCP:   {uunet,decwrl,amdahl}!sjsca4!poffen
1601 Technology Drive		CIS:	72401,276
San Jose, Ca. 95110             Voice: (408)437-5254  FAX: (408)437-5246
From: mpolen@gelato.mips.com (Michael Polen)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Win 3.1 + QEMM 6.0 suggestion
Date: 9 Apr 1992 17:50:36 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: gelato.mips.com

As is often the case, reading the manual comes last.  It must be
a sign of machotech (or techmacho).  In any case, my 3.1 installation
worked great.  For no justifiable reason, however, I decided to
peruse setup.txt.

In the section on extended memory managers, uSoft tells about a
driver that allows you to share b000-b7ff.  This is useful if
you have had to exclude that region in device=qemm.  You get all
that memory back for loading tsr's.

Also, as I mentioned earlier, although you can't "loadhigh" smartdrv,
it will do it itself.  Just make sure the your autoexec.bat has
x:\path\smartdrive size1 size2  (size1 is non windows size, size2 is
		windows size)

Then use optimize /loadhighonly (or /l).  This should leave the
maximum high memory available, and smartdrv will use it.  Note
that smartdrive will have to be loaded after all other tsr's
in your autoexec.bat file so that smartdrv does not use space
they expect to use.

enjoy.
From: dvesely@alcor.concordia.ca ( DAVID F VESELY )
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: Help needed with ATI Stereo F/X and Win 3.1
Summary: has anyone gotten it to work?
Keywords: major hassle
Date: 16 Apr 92 11:39:12 GMT

I was wondering if anyone out there has successfully installed the system sounds
with the ATI Stereo F/X card?  If so, could you please tell me how you set it up
i.e. did you use soundblaster or adlib emulation, or is there a REAL driver...
what is the procedure?   

Thanks in advance...

David
dvesely@concour.cs.concordia.ca
From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
Subject: BEST WIN3.1 UPGRADE STRAT
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:09:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: satalink.2588.1033.uupcb
Reply-To: john.will@satalink.com (John Will)
Organization: Satalink Info Systems - Huntingdon Valley, PA - 215-364-3324

TO: ulisses@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu
UM.However, I want a painless upgrade (like everyone else). What would be
  .the best upgrade strategy to keep the groups intact, use NDW as file manager
  .and program manager and install win3.1 from the scratch ?...

I'd consider installing it twice!  Install once in a new directory the plain
Windows without upgrading your previous version, then install from scratch
again updating your existing configuration.  Each install is pretty painless,
but the "virgin" install will allow you to copy over the many things that
the upgrade install seems to forget to do.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms
From: dsladden@descartes.waterloo.edu (Darryl Sladden)
Subject: Re: Great Canadian Price for Windows (& OS/2)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:07:09 GMT

>> I found a great way to get Windows 3.1 cheap.  Apparently if you buy
>> Windows 3.0 now, you get a FREE upgrade to Windows 3.1 (I just
>> confirmed this with Microsoft Canada - you have to send in the proof of
>> purchase showing the date, along with the title page of the manual).
>> I don't know how recently you must have purchased 3.0 - my guess would
>> be Apr 6, when 3.1 was officially released, but I didn't ask.
>> 
>[rest deleted]
>
>FYI, all those that have bought Win 3.0 ON OR AFTER the 6th of MARCH are
>eligible(sp?) for the free upgrade... That's direct from MS cust.serv.
>
>TCTTYL! (Now if I could only stop beeing impatient and received it!)
>
Does anybody know if this included OEM versions of Windows to get the free
upgrade.  The PC Factory is selling an OEM version of Windows for $49.99
and I wonder if I get a free upgrade for purchasing it.

Thanks 

Darryl

Newsgroups: comp.windows.ms