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From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Subject: Re: Terrified of Ceiling Fan!
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 21:16:05 GMT

In article <exuptr.361.714347492@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.154052.116508@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jm0b@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Janet McMonagle) writes:
>>The cat may never get used to the fan.  I have an otherwise FEARLESS cat who
>>is reduced to milktoast when we turn on our ceiling fan!
>
>Just try vacuuming with a cat in the room sometime!

The first time I ever ran the vacuum after we got the cats, their reactions
were very funny. While I was running it, they both ran all the way down the
hall and peered around at it from the safety of the (brick) wall by the 
dining room. When I turned it off and parked it in a bedroom doorway, they
slowly and warily approached it. Boots stopped about 6 feet away. Abby got
to about a foot or so, then streeeeeeetched way out with one front paw and
gave it a few little quick pokes, as if expecting it to come suddenly to life. 
After a minute or two she came up next to it and sniffed around it. I stood 
and watched all this with much amusement, and more than a little pleasure at 
Abby's bravery :-).

Since then, they move if I come too close, but clearly only because they don't
like the noise.

Brooms they've got used to, but the mop (sponge with long handle, basically)
still terrifies Boots. Maybe because it leaves a trail of <ugh!> water? :-)
She doesn't seem to be able to make the connection along the handle from the
sponge to my hands, even though she seems to follow string attached to toys
that way (and toys visibly held by human hands aren't nearly as much fun as 
toys that seem to move by themselves! :-) ).
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Ruth Milner                          NRAO/VLA                  Socorro NM
Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas)
Subject: Re: Flushable litter isn't
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:34:56 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.182910.11727@morrow.stanford.edu> HF.CLN@forsythe.stanford.edu (Cynthia Ng) writes:
>Since I am new to the network I don't know if this has already been
>discussed but I thought I would share the info anyway.  I started
>using"flushable" cat litter believing the claims that it was safe to
>flush the used litter down the toilet.  After two months my toilet
>clogged.  Every plumber I have talked to since has told me
>emphatically that nothing other than toilet paper should be flushed
>down a toilet. Just in case you didnt know...
>

Well, I used to use flushable kitty litter but never flushed it
for the fear of clogging the toilet.  I used it because I thought
the idea of clumping "pee balls" that could easily be scooped was
neat.  But I have since quit using it ever since one disasterous
day.  I scooped out about a zillion pee balls and put them on
a paper plate which would transfer them to the trash.  (Paper
plates were easy.  Paper bags require very deft maneuvering 
of the scooper).  Well, as I was walking across the kitchen
floor, the paper plate slumped and I had pee balls ALL OVER
THE KITCHEN FLOOR!  Those things both rolled and disintegrated
all at once.  Never, never again.

Julie
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lyndap@Novell.COM (Lynda Peterson)
Subject: Re: What do you think?
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 17:59:05 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.145319.21116@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>  
gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling) writes:
> In article <23934@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid  
Yearick) writes:
> > >your silliest pet names for your pet?  I call Sugar such things as
> > >"Muffin-pet" "Copper-nose" "White-ears" "Nuisance" "Brat-Cat"  
"Furball"
> > >and, embarrassingly, "Snufflenose".  This is just a random sampling -
> > >I'm wondering what silly things you all have come up with.
> > 
> > Kepurr Lee (9 yrs/14lb tiger) = Big Guy or Stud (He loves the last  
one)
> > Muffin Marie (8 yrs/8lb tabby) =  Miss Muffin/muffy girl/mama's girl
> > Tigger-by-Digger (2 yrs/8lb mixed persian/maine coon/?) = Tiggy/tig
> > Lady Teal Mocha (2 yrs/5lb himalayan) = TT/Lady T/Lady Teal/Teally  
Weally/
> >                 weseal/T Mocha/mama's baby
> > O'Yogi Bear (2 yrs/8lb himalayan) = Big Boy/Bear/B  
Bear/Groundhog/Yogums.
> 
> 
> Boo Boo Kitty 14 pound, black, white hairs on chest and tummy.
> Boo Boo Kitty, Boocat, Bubba, Big Guy, Little Guy (when Skippy was
> still alive), Furball, Hairball, and after a recent post I stole a new
> nickname for him - Snuffle Pig.  (Whoever wrote that please forgive my 
> stealing this name from you, but it absolutely cracked me up.)


BOO (almost 4 year old, 9 lb, black Maine Coon)
AKA: Boo Boo Kitty, Boo Boo, Boozers, Boojour dow, Boo-hon, Kitty-kitty,  
Stinky-face, Stinky-butt, Attack-cat, Bullet-cat (when she is laying as  
long as she can get on her stomach with her paws under her), and Bo-oo-oo  
(in a very sing-songy voice).
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: donald@sq.sq.com (Donald Teed)
Subject: Free - two cats to a loving home (owner allergic)
Summary: email to inquire
Keywords: Kitchener cats give-away
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Distribution: ont
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 14:51:42 GMT

We have two mild mannered cats, both male and neutered,
about 6 years of age, to give away.  My partner is
getting quite asthmatic from exposure to their hair,
dandruff, etc.  We need to find a good home for them.

Their names are Sidney and Dexter.  Dex is declawed by a former
owner and has a slightly cautious approach to the outer world.
But he is very good and quite affectionate.  He is also
a skilled mouser from his days growing up in a barn.  I have
seen him catch a bat in the house.  Sidney is talkative and
doesn't like being picked up too much, but likes being talked to
and getting his head rubbed.  He never learned mousing as a young one
and chases things around but always gives himself away by wagging
his tail in anticipation of the pounce.  Both of them like to play
indoors with inanimate objects such as flowers, video rental receipts,
and a little play mouse with a bell attached.  Things they don't like:
people wearing heavy boots who might step on them, thunder and
lightning (Sid), other male cats, car trips, being fed the same food
for the rest of their lifes.  I think they keep each other company
and so I would prefer to have both go to the same home.

We live in Kitchener.  I am willing to take them to nearby places
but otherwise you would have to come and see them in Kitchener.
The one condition we have is that if it doesn't work out,
you must bring them back, and we will try again.

As our site does not get the rec.* groups properly,
please email if interested or if you have questions.

--Donald Teed
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: edr@gtech.com (Eric D. Remington)
Subject: Re: Spray bottles (was: New cat ...  will not sleep at night)
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:45:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.131305.21208@athena.mit.edu> amd@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis) writes:
>
>Regarding spray bottles.  I know they are a good method for disciplining
>the cat, but I have been relunctant to use one because I give the cat
>a bath (allergies).  I'm afraid if I squirt Tess with water, then giving
>her a bath will be that much more difficult.  Does anyone else have
>experience with this situation?
>
>	Ann
>--
>
	Well with all of the notes about how bathing cats (neved did this 
	before last weekend to the 2 I have, washed paws yes, full bath no)
	I decided to bath (the two that are taught using the squirt bottle)
	my cats to get a lot of their shedded hair off etc. Well from prior
	experience I decided not to use the sprayer in the sink (kitchen),
	but put them down in the tub, and held them under the spout (warm 
	water), they tried to get away, but cat claws get NO traction on
	bathtubs ! I soaked them down, and toweled them off (1 at a time of
	course), they were not really thrilled with the operation, but I 
	didn't get a scratch.
From: tastewar@athena.mit.edu (Tom Stewart)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:21:12 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Don't have a name for this, but I love it when they lay on their backs
under our dining room table, and pull themselves along by grabbing the
chairs.  Anyone have a good name for that?
From: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Is there a compatable dog breed to get along with cats
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:31:48 GMT
Reply-To: syearick@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Sid Yearick)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.pets.cats, sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu (Susan R. Wagner) writes:
>Hello everyone,  I have been following the thread on introducing dogs
>and cats.  The story regarding the Husky sure scared me.  My husband and
>(Stuff deleted)

I didn't see the posting about the husky, but I do know that we were told
they don't like cats and have been known to kill them.  We have five cats
and a Siberian Husky (Jherra Satira).  Jherra's best friend and playmate
is 2 year old Tigger-by-Digger (Mixed Persian/Maine Coon/?).  We had two
of the cats before my daughter got the dog, and the other three came along
later.  They all get along fine.  A lot of people may not agree, but I think
that the environment the animal is in has a lot to do with the temperment/
behavior of the animal.  By the way, I wanted a Doberman instead of the
Husky.

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From: janet@cs.UAlberta.CA (Janet Service)
Subject: help
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:45:59 GMT

I need help.  My daughter has moved home for a couple of months 
and brought her cat with her.  

The problem is that the cat will go pee in the litter box but
that's all.  She goes down in the bacement and  poops 
where ever the fancy takes her. I've placed another litter box
down there (the original one is by the back door on the main floor).
but that hasn't worked.

It's a lovely little cat but this is driving me nuts, not to 
mention the smell.

HELP

Please E-mail any suggestions ASAP.

Thamks
Janet

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (PAM DRAPER)
Subject: brushing cat's teeth
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com
Organization: GTE Government Systems, Federal Systems Division, Chantilly, VA
Distribution:  world
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 17:57:36 GMT


I have 2 cats (out of a family of 6) that have chronic gingivitis problems.
Not that they have a tartar problem though.  The vet says its a hereditary
problem with not having the antibodies to fight off the gingivitis.  
Anyway, these 2 cats will not even allow a q-tip or finger in there mouth.
Any suggestions on how to go about brushing their teeth would be helpful.

One already has lost 2 teeth because of this and she is only 3 years old.
The vet says it's not the loss of teeth that matters that much but that
the bacteria that causes the cat to lose teeth causes damage to the heart.

I've tried vitamin C supplements and herbal remedies to no avail and they
eat mostly dry food (one will only eat dry food).

I read in cat fancy about one lady who made a draw-string bag out of a
pillow case so that only the cats head stuck out.  I'm willing to try
this, but I think it's going to be a very traumatic episode with these
particular  cats.
From: cstripli@harpo.dev.uga.edu (Cletus Stripling)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Those cats at the Humane Society Again
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:16:11 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <19685@plains.NoDak.edu> myhre@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert Myhre) writes:
>
>  Hi again.  Another question about those cats that I am contemplating
>on getting at the humane society has popped up.  After a reader answered
>my last question I went and asked and found that these cats have not
>been vaccinated for leukemia.  The price is too high for them to
>justify it.
>
>  Now, these cats are $50 each with a refund of $20 each when they are
>altered, plus the cost of altering plus all the additional shots that
>are needed (they have only had te first set... booster and distemper).
>Is this price normal for cats?  I am beginning to think that it would be
>cheaper just to get one of those cats that people are giving away for
>free instead of dealing with the HS.
>
>Comments?  Thanks
>
>Robert

Hi.....

I'm sure many ppl will have opinions on this subject, but I personally
purchased one of the humane society cats and wouldn't trade her for
anything else in the world.  She costs $45 with the same type $20 refund
for having her spayed (better word--i think than altered).  She also had
her first feline leukemia shot.  Certainly having a healthy cat can be
costly whether you accept a free cat or purchase one from the humane society.
Think of the years of enjoyment your pet can bring you and not as a monetary
decision.  Sometimes hard to do I suppose, but anyway.

Just my opinion.


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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: maxwell@venice.sedd.trw.com (Debra Maxwell)
Subject: Re: Soapless Bath
Organization: TRW Systems Engineering & Development Division, Carson, CA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 22:50:35 GMT

Two of my threesome just soak the water right
up.  The third, Squirt, I have to use a bit more
water and really make an effort to soak her.
I just take them one at a time into the bathtub
fill a pan with water (several times) from the
sink (this tends to work better for me, because
it doesn't seem to be the water they are afraid
of as much as the sound of the water coming
from the faucet), then I just massage them to
relax them and to make sure every bit of their
bodies have been watered down.  I then rinse
them off, as if they had soap on them, dry
them off and done.

Debi, Squirt, Squeak $ Scooter

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ericj@hwcae.Honeywell.COM (Eric Jacobsen)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: Honeywell, Air Transport Division; Phoenix, AZ
	<26832@life.ai.mit.edu> <1992Aug20.211625.24420@super.org>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:47:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.211625.24420@super.org> judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger) writes:

   Great list, Marie, but you left out "sitting like a bug".  This is
   when they scrunch down, almost in sphinx position, but their front
   pays just kind of collapse underneath them.  My mom named that nearly
   a million years ago and I still think it's appropriate for that
   position.

I call that the "quadriplegic cat" when it looks like a body sitting there with
no legs. My wife says "legless kitty" or "poor kitty has no legs"...

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From: hcls7@jetson.uh.edu (Marino, Nancy F.)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:23:00 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug20.211625.24420@super.org>, judith@super.org (Judith D. Schlesinger) writes...
>Great list, Marie, but you left out "sitting like a bug".  This is
>when they scrunch down, almost in sphinx position, but their front
>pays just kind of collapse underneath them.  My mom named that nearly
>a million years ago and I still think it's appropriate for that
>position.
> 
>Judith and Charlie (who rarely sits like a bug) 
>       and Sarah (who often sits like a bug)
> 

If it's the same position that I'm thinking of (and that my two cats always
assume), I call it looking like a meatloaf.
From: hannah@pomponio.ai.sri.com (Marsha Jo Hannah)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 19 Aug 92 20:26:40 GMT
	<5579@transfer.stratus.com> <1992Aug18.231004.20889@gtephx.UUCP>
Distribution: usa
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
In-reply-to: machanicm@gtephx.UUCP's message of 18 Aug 92 23:10:04 GMT


   > On a slightly different tack, our calico has a way of popping
   > straight up in the air off of all four paws at once when startled,
   > the height off of the ground being directly proportional to the
   > degree of startle.  We've always called this "toastering".

As long as we're naming cat behaviors, how about alternate names for
the insane running around that has been called "the crazies"?  If
there are 2 or more cats involved, we refer to it as "cat races".
Therefore, by extension, for one cat, it's "time trials"---preparing
for future cat races.  If there is mock prey involved, it's "chasing
windmills" (in honor of Don Quixote's imaginary foes).

Marsha Jo Hannah
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: phayes@engin.umich.edu (Pamela J Hayes)
Subject: Cat Needs Home
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 16:41:51 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: University of Michigan

Do you have room in your heart and in your home for a new cat?

If so, I have a adult cat that needs a good home.  He's an elegant-
looking black longhair.  He's neutered, gentle, affectionate, and very 
well behaved.  He has recently had his shots and was given a clean 
bill of health by a vet.  He lounges and purrs equally well inside and 
outside.

If you think you can fit this cat into your life, call Pam or Dave at 
665-9109.

Or mail leblanc@caen.engin.umich.edu
        phayes@csmil.umich.edu

-- 
Pam Hayes (a.k.a. Elephant Leather)
phayes@caen.engin.umich.edu
phayes@dip.eecs.umich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: janet@indetech.com ()
Subject: orphans need homes
Organization: Independence Technologies, Inc. Fremont, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:31:17 GMT


Recently, a stray cat began to bring her kittens into our back yard
to feed them from our cat's food bowl. We caught the kittens and the
mother cat. The mother cat will be spayed and turned free (we'll continue
to let her eat in our backyard). 

We have been spending time taming the kittens, and now need to find them good homes.

The kittens are:

Scarface

    Scarface is a black female kitten with a streak of white fur over her
left eye that looks like a scar and a big white patch on her stomach. 
She seems to be the most intellegent of the kittens, but is still a little shy. 
She likes to play with string and loses most of her shyness when playing.

Racer

    Racer is a grey and white female with two black "racing stripes" that
run down her back and join at her tail, which is also black. She is the
biggest of the kittens.

Tootsie Roll

    Tootsie Roll is a black female kitten with the sweetest disposition of
the bunch. She loves to chew on fingers and roll onto her back (hence the 
name - a chewie roll :-) ). She purrs a lot and is very friendly.

Mewsette

    Musette is a black female kitten with a disposition similar to Tootsie
Roll. She is friendly and likes to talk. 

Spot

    Spot is a grey and white male kitten with a grey spot on his white
chin. He is very friendly and curious. He also likes to play with string.

Actually, they all like to play with string. They also like to have their
tummies rubbed.

We are asking $10 for each kitten. If you can't take one (or two), please 
tell a friend about them. We have them in a spare bedroom right now and
can't keep them too much longer. Their presence is stressing out our
own cats a bit.

If interested, please contact Janet Christian at (510) 438-2054 or Eric Marsh at
(415) 336-4856. You can reach us in the evenings at (510) 490-3996.

Thanks,

Janet
-- 
   Janet Christian             jchristian@indetech.com

My boss agrees with everything I say - well, actually, he thinks I'm working.  
"Never argue with a Scorpio - it's frustrating and you'll lose, anyway..."
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help...cat spraying
Date: 22 Aug 92 16:55:14 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

 XLSS01@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Student1 Clsacct) writes:> 
> My 5 year old spayed female, indoor cat has recently begun peeing in the
> house.  It started approximately 3 months ago so I immediately took her to
> the vet who said that she DID not have an infection but they did fine
> traces of crystals in her urine.  They prescribed URIGARD which I gave
> her religiously for 14 days.  It seemed to work.  Well now its has
> started all over again. 

One of the major treatments for spraying from psychological stress is a 
progestin or tranquilizer treatment.  Is she *spraying* (standing, hits 
vertical objects like walls and curtains), or is she *peeing* (squatting, 
hits floors)? 

If she's peeing, I'd guess FUS, and put her back on the URIGARD and
talk to the vet again.  If it's spraying, you've got more a behavioral
problem...

My experiences with bladder infections (in both humans and cats) suggest
that the antibiotic doses given are not always appropriate, and a couple
of courses of antibiotics and of *longer duration* may be more useful.
And infections are not always easy to spot, alas.  Did they culture a
catheterized urine sample?

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI 

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: gck@hector.uucp (24641-kemmerling)
Subject: Re: Costly cats
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 19:27:01 GMT

> Suggested by my vets: that and Dawn dish detergent, diluted.  Seems to
> work OK.  Nobody complains, and no one has dry skin.  Of course, they
> only get bathed when they get in something really gross, like used
> crankcase oil, or if they need flea-dipping (rare, now that I have
> Precor.)
> 
> Kay Klier   Biology Dept  UNI
> 

Dawn would be safe.  They used it on the birds, etc. after the Exxon-Valdez
incident.  They said it cleaned the best - cut through the oil and grease 
just like the 
commercials say) and was not harmful to the animals. 

 
Gayle 'wish I was back in Illinois' Kemmerling
E-mail address: gck@hector.cc.bellcore.com 
Morristown, N.J.
(201) 829-3950
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats