Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Friday, 11 Sep 1992 03:22:50 EDT
From: William Grant <343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: taunting for 15
 <1992Sep9.143204.20357@PacBell.COM> <1992Sep9.101600@mccall.com>
 <1992Sep9.204503.19571@PacBell.COM> <1992Sep10.082626@mccall.com>

In article <1992Sep10.082626@mccall.com>, scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
says:
>
>In article <1992Sep9.204503.19571@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John .
>P
>Gloria) writes:
>>I guess you and I are at opposite ends on this topic.  I guess it depends
>>on how you were raised and what you learned in your formative years as a
>young
>>kid.  To me, taunting is natural.  It intimadates some people so much that
>>their play diminishes. It is also a form of one upmanship in verbal street
>>talk.  It is not for everyone.  NOTE:  have you seen the Spike Lee T.V.
>>commerical of  two teams (young black men and white men) playing basketball?
>>It is a lesson on getting along a people, but the ad starts off with some
>>major name calling.  If you saw the movie "White Men Can't Jump", then
>>you will know exactly what I am talking about.  I just believe in "trash
>>talking" if you can back it up (Remember Ali?).  I can guarantee you, if
>>I was playing against you and I picked up and the fact that you didn't
>>like being taunted, then I would be at you non-stop.  If it resulted in
>>a fight, then I would back it up, irregardless of the outcome.
>
>Then we're at opposite ends on this topic.  I was raised around taunting
>(my high school band played "Another one bites the dust" at a football
>game after the opponent's player got hurt).  But I also remember seeing
>football where players didn't taunt.
>
>If you want to taunt me, fine.  But then it tells me that you can't
>beat me on your skills alone and need another way to try to win.

Say AGAIN??  Since when does taunting someone mean that you can't beat them
in skill??  To me,  if a player taunts another player,  it's because he's
better than the other player.  I've personally never played professional
football,  but would seem to me that after a crushing sack,  in front of
more than 10000 screaming fans,  I'd be on an emotional high.  Of course
I'd want to live it up.  I'm sure it's the same way.  Not to mention that
it probably fires the crowd up even more,  and gets the crowd behind your
team.  This is always a bonus.
>
>I was told a story about "trash talking" at the Venice Beach(LA)
>bball courts.  One guy left and returned with a baseball bat and
>beat up the other guy.   So is that part of the game?  It diminished
>his play.
Of course it's not part of the game.  You never see an NBA player go out
with a baseball bat and smack Michael Jordon upside the head when he
burries a 3-pointer and turns around and points to the bench,  or just
shrugs his shoulders as if to say 'What can I say,  You can't touch this!'
THAT'S beging unsportsman like.  Taunting is just letting out emotion when
you're really on your game.  No different from spiking the ball after a
25 yard interception return for a touchdown,  or throwing the game ball
into the stands after a hard earned win.
>--
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