HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Saturday night COPS on FOX
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:09:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: adobe.1992Nov15.220906.1844
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View

In article <RTARAZ.92Nov14211852@bigwpi.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
}I might want to stop riding my bike.  I have always though about the
}possibility of getting into an accident and losing some body parts,
}but it is different when you see it happen!

While nothing can prepare you for weirdness like the suicidal guy
blowing through the STOP sign and broadsiding the biker recently, *you*
can at least be prepared to SIPDE better than the unfortunate victim
of the accident you describe. Chances are she either wasn't scanning
as effectively as possible, or she stayed too far off the front brake
in the fear of locking it up. 'Least that's what the statistical lies
say.

You can't prevent cagers from committing idiocy, but you can increase
your chances of surviving it. Remember that you do have that much
control, and maybe it'll make your life a bit easier (and safer).

When I was a skydiver I was constantly amazed at the deaths of
experienced skydivers who just (apparently) didn't pay enough attention
to what they were doing, and then panicked when things got tight.
They can't afford to get lax, and neither can we. Keep the concentration
high, skills honed, and you'll stand a better chance.

And obviously don't do stupid crap. I'll never forget watching a
video from a helmet-mounted camera taken by a skydiving photographer
who was being pushed to make too many jumps too fast by the drop zone
manager. Instead of just telling the manager to piss off and remaining
safe, this idiot decided to show said manager just how low he could
open to get on the ground (and thus back up in the air with another
paying customer) faster. Half the people in a good-sized room watching
a 25" TV from many feet away involuntarily reared back in their chairs
(one even fell over) right before the guy opened on the tape. The
ground rush was very evident. A 3 second opening delay would have
killed him instantly; a 2 second delay would probably have had him
opening so low as to be going at horrendous speed under canopy when he
smacked into the ground going half-vertical/half-horizontal.

Of course, it fits that the idiot (who was fired on the spot, BTW) went
on to become an F-14 pilot in the Navy....
-- 
Curtis Jackson	  '91 Black Lab "Studley Doright"   '92 Collie/Golden "George"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	USPA #A-10080 (lapsed)	DoD #721 '81 Maxim 650
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer)
Subject: Norton Plans
Organization: QUAD Systems
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:54:45 GMT


Does anyone know what Norton's current status is? I thought they were supposed
to release a street version of their successful rotary racer. 

-- 

Roland Besserer
QUAD Systems
roland@quadsys.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: CGKarras@world.std.com (Christopher G Karras)
Subject: Cylinder Questions
Keywords: cylinder
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:05:12 GMT

Anyone care to make some reasonably valid generalizations about the
consequences for the rider of the various arrangements of cylinders? 
There seem to be vertical, horizontal opposed, V and inclined ("/")
arrangements in 1, 2 and 4 cylinders.

I have read of the high torque of the large single and the buzziness of
the smaller fours, but other the appearance of the V on Harleys, what is
the point of that arrangement?  Are the opposed arrangement truly more
vibration free?

Chris
-- 
*******************************************************************
Christopher G. Karras
Internet:    CGKarras@world.std.com
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: best tires for wet
Date: 20 Nov 1992 07:02:49 GMT
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu
Keywords: street vs dp

In article <1egqh9INN7eg@fido.asd.sgi.com> spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com
(Paul Spencer) writes:
>steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse) says:
>> Which tire is best for wet slippery paved roads?
>
>Metzeler is the best rain tire maker, by far. 

They work fine in the wet for me, too.

>Don't worry about rear traction; the front is your big concern. Losing the
>back end is exciting; losing the front end hurts.

Try not losing the front end when the rear end decides it
wants a turn in front because you weren't worrying about
rear traction!  Use good tires on both ends.  Use your head.

>I wouldn't mix DP and street tires, and I know little about their traction
>on pavement relative to a street tire; but a ME33/ME55 or ME33/ME88 com-
>bination works VERY well in the wet.

When five of us went on our "The outlook is promising" tour
last November (starting in a downpour, continuing on 300
more miles of wet/twisty, redwood-needle bestrewn roads) I
think there were three bikes with Metzelers, one with
Pirelli DP tires, and one with I-don't-remember-what-tires. 
None of us had much trouble with traction, even at speeds
that were surprisingly brisk for the conditions.

Tire technology has come a long way over the past twenty
years.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pjordan@rp.CSIRO.AU (Patrick Jordan)
Subject: Re: 2-strokes (was:Re: REQUEST: short fella has a question or two...
Organization: CSIRO Division of Radiophysics, NSW, Australia
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:58:46 GMT

jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
> Nick, the British biker who works for a Canadian company writes:
> >If you can't tell the difference between pounds avoirdupoi and pounds sterling
>                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^s
> Second, I can spell in the Queen's English better than you can (despite the
> silly pronouciation)!

avoirdupois? C'est un mot francais, pas anglais, n'est-ce pas?
(Or at least with very french origins)

-- 

Be seeing you!

Patrick.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Jordan             |      _                        |
CSIRO Divn of Radiophysics |    // \   I am not a number,  |  1973 Guzzi 850GT
NSW, Australia             |   /( 6 )  I am a free man.    |
pjordan@rp.csiro.au        |  () \_/                       |  awaiting DoD #
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dmatejka@netcom.com (Daniel Matejka)
Subject: Re: VESPA
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:02:21 GMT

In article <17NOV199212540586@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu> mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell) writes:
>Does anyone in this group ever talk about Vespas?  Any interest in Vespas?

They'd make good coat racks, if only they were a bit taller.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: REQUEST: Blue book value
Keywords: BSA
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:13:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.220054.10371@swlvx2.msd.ray.com> csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott) writes:
>alanf@eng.tridom.com (Alan Fleming) writes:
>
>>A co-worker is selling a bike and I'm interested in possibly purchasing it.
>>The bike is a '68 BSA Victor Special (441 c.c. OHV single).  Could anyone
>>with a NADA give me the blue book on the bike.  If anyone else is interested
>>in the bike, I can post a description and pass along offers to the seller.
>
>>Think Peace.
>>-- Alan (alanf@eng.tridom.com)
>>KotBBBB (1988 GSXR1100J)  AMA# 634578  DOD# 4210
>
>There will be *no* Blue Book value on this bike - There *is* a market value
>for this bike - older Brit bikes are increasing in value as collector's items,
>The 441 Victor is a torquey monster but didn't do anything special particulary
>well. Blue Books usually dates bikes back about 6-8 yrs. Being a Brit bike
>fan, yes I'm interested - please send me details/location etc.
>Thanks,
>S.
>

Having owned one of these for a number of years, I can only say I wouldnt
have another unless it was dirt cheap or free. Although the torque and 
light weight are nice, starting it can be hazardous and frustrating. As an
investment, it might be good. Most people have gotten nostalgic and forgotten
just how bad these bikes really were. As a rider, there are any number of 
better singles including, but not limited to, the Yamaha SRX and SR500.

Jeff Achenbach 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: What would you ride on a long distance trip?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:16:57 GMT

In article <Bxw183.92L@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu () writes:
|
|Well, I drive my 81 Wing on all sorts of roads... It's just a matter of
|practice and restraint.  I happen to like an easy chair that will keep me
|off the ground if the Big Nasty (Tm?) happens.  

Hmmm, to each his own, I guess.  Personally, I prefer to be on a bed, or 
even the kitchen table, when I do the Big Nasty, but I guess whatever is 
your preference...

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
From: tgrupe@watnxt11.ucr.edu (Todd E. Grupe)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Electrical problem solved!
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:26:29 GMT

In article <1doe87INN290@rodan.UU.NET> smm@uunet.uu.net (Steve Mansfield)  
writes:
> Anyway, I finally got my grubby little mits on a multimeter, and checked
> the voltage to the battery from the charging system, which was low.  I
> should have been seeing around 12-12.5 V.  I was seeing 10.  I then
> unplugged the alternator wires from the reg/rec, and turned things on
> again.  As soon as I did this, it happily revved up to as high as I
> wanted to go without any problem (or blown fuses).  I checked the output  
from
> the alternator, and it was fine - 75 V AC.  According to my manual on  
things,
> this means my reg/rec is hosed and to replace it.  One of the people who
> replied to my first posting sent me info on how if I'm getting low  
voltage, I
> might get high current through the fuse, , which appears to be what is

	Keep in mind that the bike should be up to running temperature  
before you check the alternator output.  I don't know if it's still true  
on the newer bikes, but on older ones the alternator output gets up to 75  
V or so only after a few minutes of running; on a cold start it can put  
out even less than 12 VAC for the first minute or so.

TG  DoD#4043   Lost in Southern California Hell
--
tgrupe@watserv.ucr.edu

generic .sig
generic .sig
generic .sig

What are you reading this for?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: Squash or slide?
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 23:31:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.112304.10192@aber.ac.uk> azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward) writes:
>
>OK folks, so whats the net wisdom (!) here? Do you slide and wear yourself away
>in a short red stain; or tuck up an roll to avoid the rash, travel further 
>and end up under an oncoming cage as a hedgehog impersonator?

Well, the only time I became one with the road, it wasn't so much a matter
of deciding how I would approach the pavement.  One moment I was on the
bike, the next blurred vision was of an FJ going east as I launched
over a right grip to the west.  The final thought was looking up at
an amber sky wondering why I could not breath.  Lifting my face shield
did not help.

For those who actually have the luxury of deciding, please do tell....

Ride Free,

Bill 
________________________________________________________________
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  prez=BIMC 
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002  SR= 2.125
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 740GLE  KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

There are many paths to truth.  Don't die choosing.
                                                      Zen Graffiti
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu (Kyle Cassidy)
Subject: last night....
Organization: Rowan College of New Jersey
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:24:05 GMT

			LAST NIGHT: A Screenplay




KYLE: Darn it. I'll never get this blasted program done
     without more cpu time. What is this? an 8088 or what?
     Darn it. I'll just get on the VAX here. Hey, what's
     this? how come I only have 125 bytes of disk space?
     I'll have to page the sysop. [KYLE PAGES KEN THE SYSOP.
     THERE IS A PAUSE AND THEN A LOUD RUMBLING. KEN AND THE
     OTHER LAB GUYS [GREG AND BRIAN] COME BARRELING INTO THE
     LAB ON HUGE 1100cc NINJAS, DOING DOUGHNUTS AND KNOCKING OVER
     CHAIRS. THEY ARE LAUGHING AND SWINGING LENGTHS OF
     CHAIN.] Ken? Greg? what are you all doing? you're
     destroying the lab!

KEN: [WITH A DIABOLIC CACKLE] So! you want more _disk space_
     do you? [GREG KICKS OVER A TABLE OF 386'S BRIAN IS
     PEELING OUT ON THE FLOOR, SMOKE IS BILLOWING FROM HIS
     BACK TIRE]

KYLE: Um, um, yes, sir. Um, just a little more disk space
     would be nice.

KEN: Well, then, that Suzuki GS125 of yours hardly cuts it does it?
     I think you'll have to get a new bike before you can be
     treated like a man in THIS LAB! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

KYLE: But, I get very nice gas mileage...

BRIAN: HAHAHAHA! 

     [HE RIDES BY AT A TERRIFFIC SPEED AND BLOWS KYLES
     PAPERS OFF OF THE DESK. KYLE TRYS FUTILY TO RETRIEVE
     THEM, BUT THE LAB GUYS MAKE SHORT WORK OF THEM, RIDING
     RECKLESSLY OVER THE PAPERS. THE LAB IS IN A SHAMBLES.
     THEY RIDE OUT OF THE LAB CHANTING "GS 125!" AND
     LAUGHING HYSTERICALLY.]



     [KYLE WAKES WITH A START. IT IS NIGHT TIME AND HIS
     PAJAMAS ARE DRENCHED IN SWEAT. OUTSIDE THE FRAMILIAR
     AND REASSURING BURGER KING SIGN SHINES THROUGH HIS
     WINDOW.]

KYLE: Geez, I've got to stop eating like that before I got to
     sleep.



--------------------
cass8806@elan.glassboro.edu
DoD #760	  		   "Fire all of your guns at once!"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: NIGHTHAWK BLACKOUT
Reply-To: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson)
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 14:09:56 GMT

In article <113.201.uupcb@filebank.cts.com>,
robert.laszko@filebank.cts.com (Robert Laszko)  writes:
|> >    The Eastwood Company sells a product called 'Chassis Black' that
|> is
|> >apparently a perfect match to factory black on engine, headers, etc.
|> on
|> >cars and motorcycles.  Runs about $10 a can (spray), and works
|> really 
|> >well.
|> 
|> Thanks for the info, Nicholas. I've been getting the Eastwood
|> catalogs 
|> for a couple of years - never paid attention to the paint products!
|> 
  Harley Davidson also sells high heat gloss black (among other
colors in high heat ranges) that work well on engines. The stuff
is really thick and hard and has good coverage when coming out
of the can.                                                             

-- 
##########################################################
There are only two types of ships in the NAVY; SUBMARINES 
                 and TARGETS !!!
#1/XS1100LH	#2/10/10/92
Richard Pierson E06584 vnet: [908] 699-6063
Internet: fist@iscp.bellcore.com,|| UUNET:uunet!bcr!fist  
#include <std.disclaimer> My opinions are my own!!!
I Don't shop in malls, I by my jeans, jackets and ammo
in the same store.
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BDIVOs in general
Date: 20 Nov 1992 18:27:01 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 12514@bnr.uk, datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
>
>Apart from giving birth and screwing men, I can't think of anything that is
>specifically "women's work".  I don't think I'm wrong in this, do you agree?

Better restrict that to "giving birth"...

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: geirs@cs.hw.ac.uk (Geir Solvang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:36:50 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article 1edptvINN8l1@sixgun.East.Sun.COM Ed Green writes:

>So why on Earth would anyone *NOT* wear a neon orange vest with lime

Well Ed. I have serious doubts that a neon yellow, orange, green, pink, etc.
west will do you much good when you are hitting the concrete or aiming for the
gravel after breaking on a spot of oil or sand. However, a god helmet might do
the trick.

Makes sense, huh, Ed?

Geir


| Geir Solvang
| Email: geirs@cee.hw.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: marco@wam.umd.edu (Marco Andres Concha)
Subject: Re: High speed in USA?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:49:42 GMT

	I feel for you about the ticket.  I didn't think cops on a revenge
trip would bug families in mini-vans.  Weird.  I have a strategy that I use
to minimize $$$/point damage in court.  

	1)  Go to court, you have more to gain in the long run by protesting
          a speeding ticket in person.

	2)  After you get a court date, decide conveniently some time later
	  that you have to postpone until a later date.  This is legal and 
	  gives you this advantage:  By rescheduling you probably will be
          placed at the end of the docket, thus allowing you to scout the
	  judge.  Invariably someone with a similar case will go before you
          .  You will find out if the judge is a real SOB and how different
          attitudes of defendants work.  Being co-operative and humble might
          pay off.
	
	3)  Insist that your speedometer read 8 mph less than radarboy's charge.          If the officer doesn't show (likely if you rescheduled) this may be
          easier to swallow for the court prosecutor.  The magic number 8 is
          from experience (mine.  6 tickets, 2 dismissed, 4 plea bargained,0 pts)           

	4)   Bring DoD 983.3 with you. Dress nicely. Smile.  


Hope this advice helps.

Marco Andres Concha	University of Maryland - College Park
-  1991 EL250     -     Space Systems Laboratory
NJ driver/survivor      Neutral Buoyancy Research Facility
.
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: per mile stats (was Re: Saturday night COPS on FOX)
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:03:38 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Nov18.221634.2505@nimbus.com> jimiii@nimbus.com (Jim Warford) writes:

>Don't know about cars or mc's breakdown but in the USA it is 1.3 fatalities
>per 60 million miles driven.  In Latvia it is 25 per 60 million miles.  Latvia
>is the most dangerous place to drive and the US is tied with the Netherlands
>as the safest.

In the UK the fatality rate for cars is 4.5 per billion km, which
works out at .43 deaths per 60 million miles travelled. Given the
extra safety of public service vehicles and trucks over cars, and the
relatively low proportion of more dangerous things than cars, such as
motorcycles, this suggests that the UK is safer than the US.

-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Subject: Re: Leg Protection for cold weather?
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
Organization: SGI TechPubs
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 01:17:43 GMT


In article <1992Nov20.162634.7524@vpbuild.vp.com>, jessea@vpmeu015.me.vp.com writes:
|[...] Besides, even if the temp is just chilly, riding 60MPH
|can freeze your buns.  So, what to you, the experienced rider,
|recommend for leg protection?  What about leggings?

For warmth during cool weather (since nothing we've had so far
in northern Cal could be actually called "cold"), I've been
wearing spandex athletic shorts under my jeans.  Well, they're
not really "shorts", since the ones I've been using are
ankle-length.  

Somebody just gave me flannel-lined jeans from LLBean for my
birthday.  Haven't worn them riding yet, but I think they'll
also do the trick.

For heavy-duty cold you probably need something more serious.

---
C J Silverio	cj@sgi.com	ceej@well.sf.ca.us
'92 Seca II	DoD #0526
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Subject: Re: Alaska or bust! (What would you ride on a long distance trip?)
Organization: Washington State University
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 02:00:42 GMT

In article <By6wH4.Cp9@apollo.hp.com> brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady) writes:
>I need to understand the more current BMWs better. My last experience with
>BMW was with a R69S. The P-D is a beefed up R100GS, yes? And the GS is a
>beefed-up ??.

As I understand it, the PD is not a "beefed-up" R100GS.  They share a common
frame and suspension.  BMW took the nearly perfect GS and made numerous truly
beautiful changes.  First they got rid of that silly toy tank and put on a
real serious tank.  Don't use the magnetically attached tank bag, it is made of
rotary cast polymer.  Then they got rid of that sissy seat and put a real 
comfy saddle.  Next they bagged the idea of a rear seat and put a luggage rack
with a bizillion places to attach bungie cords.  A nice final couple of 
touches are the front fender that comes apart in at least three different ways
if you're so inclined, installed _heated_ grips for those who can't bear to
think of letting go of a hot cup of java on a cold day, and wind breakers for
each grip.  The crowning touch was the magnificent black and green paint job.

The engine has been around since '23 and the stock tires suck, but what the
hell.  

Speaking of tires, I am using the Pirelli MT-60 and am satisfied.  Sorta.  I've
heard rumors that both Dunlop and Michelin have new radial off-road tires
for the GS/PD's.  Anyone have any clue about these new tires?

Ride Free,

Bill
________________________________________________________________
johnsw@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  prez=BIMC 
AMA #500924   DoD #00314   WMTC #0002  SR= 2.125
Yamabeemer fjgs1200pdr100 740GLE  KotV KotRR KotD #0001  :-)
\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

There are many paths to truth.  Don't die choosing.
                                                      Zen Graffiti
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: CBX and other 6 cyl's
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 22:14:57 GMT

chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih) writes:
>In rec.motorcycles weiss@bdcv8 writes:

>;could follow Honda's lead and produce a V-8 masquerading as a V-4 (NR750).  

>The NR750 is a 32 valve inline 4.  It could possibly
>be described as a parallel 8 with very thin cylinder
>walls, but not really as a V-anything.

On which planet is this? The NR750 is most definitly a V-4, unless your
definition of "inline" includes cylinder angles other than 0.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles