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From: stgprao@xing.unocal.com (Richard Ottolini)
Subject: Re: Mammoth area hot springs?
Originator: stgprao@xing
Organization: Unocal Corporation
Distribution: ca
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 03:50:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.182652.3453@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> rw@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Rich Washington) writes:
>
>I remember some discussion in the distant past about hot springs
>in the area around Mammoth, but I didn't save the info.  So, if
>anyone out there knows where you can find publicly-accessible
>hot springs around Mammoth, could you drop me a note?  Email please;
>I'll summarize to the net if there's enough interest.

You take the "Hot Creek" exit near the Mammoth airport.
It appears on most maps now too.  A few years ago it didn't.
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: sherod@newton.Colorado.EDU (Scott Herod)
Subject: Re: No dogs in Natl Parks
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 04:49:50 GMT

Might as well include my two cents.  I have a old chow chow that until
recently went on many hikes with me.  She did very well on most trails.
I also have a two year old daughter who does not realize that the chow
chow is a dog and finds most dogs terrifying.  My biggest complaint is
those people who insist that their dog is well behaved enough to be
allowed to run loose reguardless of local regulations.  The dog may be
very friendly but when it comes over to visit with Meggan I have to
spend ten minutes calming a screaming child.  Also, even though my dog
is well behaved :-) she still thought deer and squirrels and other dogs
and ... were fun to chase, thus she always hiked on a lease.

On the other hand there was the guy on Quandry with a grey hound
which had all of its pads bleeding.  I wanted to punch him.

Scott
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: cyeomans@ms.uky.edu (Charles Yeomans)
Subject: Re: Oregon Wallowas...pack animals
Keywords: alpine lakes - where?
    <1992Aug12.163517.24127@eos.arc.nasa.gov> 
    <1992Aug13.195208.22980@colorado.edu>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 19:20:14 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Aug13.195208.22980@colorado.edu> stjohn@newton.Colorado.EDU (MATTHEW STJOHN) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.163517.24127@eos.arc.nasa.gov> dencisco@eos.arc.nasa.gov (David Paul Encisco) writes:
>>karlm@sequent.com (Karl Maerz) writes:
>>
>>>trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna) writes:
>>>>...
>>>>
>>>>Pack animals should not be allowed beyond the parking lot, as they
>>>>further reduce in scale the tiny fragments of remaining wilderness.
>>
>>>Here are some other equally stupid and inflamatory assertions:
>>
>>>* There is an infinitesimally small segment of the general population,
>>>  known collectively as the Truly Enlightened(tm).
>>>* Children should not be allowed in wilderness areas since they
>>>  spoil the asthetics...
>>
>>>Wayne, you often sound like a spoiled little boy who wants only
>>>his way to prevail and all the toys to himself.
>>>Someone suggested that you LIGHTEN UP.  Excellent recommendation.
>>
>>Well it could be that Wayne is acting like a caged canary in a coal
>>mine. But with regards to Wayne's original premise (pack animals
>>should not be allowed...(in the back country)) I would have to agree
>>that backpacker's are suffering at the expense of packers.... 
>>
>
>After spending several days many years ago repairing trails damaged
>by horses, I have to agree with Wayne and David. The erosion caused
>by pack animals on trail is rediculous. I talked to a ranger one 
>time about this and he said that many eastern senators think that 
>pack animals are natural so they should be allowed in the back 
>country. Pack animals were introduced to this part of the world by
>European explorers, and the wilderness here is just not designed
>to handle the destuction caused by them. Tells you how much our
>federal government know :).
>
>matt

Yes, and the "native" Americans came here from Asia - so it was okay
to get rid of them.

Charles Yeomans
cyeomans@ms.uky.edu
yeomans@austin.onu.edu
From: fholtsberry@oavax.csuchico.edu (Fran Holtsberry)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Colorado reunion
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:53:18 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

I am looking more for a semi-backcountry place to hold a reunion in 
Colorado next summer (August). We do have a member who is handicapped, but 
we would like to go to the mountains.
Any suggestions?


Fran Holtsberry,
Fran_holtsberry@macgate.csuchico.edu

-_-Good design is not a default setting-_-
From: gbt@cray.com (Greg Titus)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Moose vs. Elk
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:32:15 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

In article <1992Aug19.115627.29616@walter.cray.com> hens@snipe.cray.com (Tom Stephens) writes:
>
>In article <1405@yetti.UUCP>, french@cs.yorku.ca (Lori French) writes:
>> 
>>   Ok, so how about caribou?  I was under the impression that
>>    elk and caribou were the same.   This could become confusing...
>> 
>
>No, its really not that confusing.  Moose are moose, elk are elk and
>caribou are caribou. 

Actually, caribou are reindeer.   ;-)

greg
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------
Greg Titus (gbt@zia.cray.com)             Compiler Group (Ada)
Cray Research, Inc.                               Santa Fe, NM
Opinions expressed herein (such as they are) are purely my own.
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: houle@nmt.edu (Paul Houle)
Subject: Re: Oregon Wallowas
Keywords: alpine lakes - where?
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1992 23:20:55 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.133632.22530@ms.uky.edu> cyeomans@ms.uky.edu (Charles Yeomans) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.230759.28314@sequent.com> karlm@sequent.com (Karl Maerz) writes:
>>trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna) writes:
>>
>>* Children should not be allowed in wilderness areas since they
>>  spoil the asthetics of The Wilderness Experience(tm) for the
>>  Truly Enlightened(tm).  
>>
>>  [Politically *in*correct parents with more than one child 
>>  should never be allowed beyond the boundaries of large 
>>  metropolitan suburbs.  The Truly Enlightened(tm) are offended
>>  at the very thought of these breeding vermin.]

	One or two kids aren't bad -- but taking a whole bunch of them is!
I was working with a summer program about endangered species which took a
group of junior high school students on field trips every day.  One day
we went with some BLM people to see an area that wasn't exactly wilderness
because it was (over)grazed.  The topic was to discuss riparian area
management,  so they took us to an area that was poorly managed (the fence
got ripped down 10+ years ago) and told us what they were planning to do
with it.  I asked if they could take us to an area that was being properly
managed and they told us they didn't have the money to do that yet.  To
be fair,  the management plan they had was fairly reasonable.  It involved
excluding the cows at a good distance downstream and piping a fraction of
the water to a cattle trough for them.

	Anyway,  we had to walk about 1/4 mile from where we parked to
get there,  which elicited lots of complaints.  We followed a dirt road
which took switchbacks;  like some ATBer's we all know,  they wanted to
walk off the road.  Introspectively,  I should have let them cut the
switchbacks,  because desert plants ~do~ take care of themselves.  Let them
have an argument with a creosote bush and see who wins,  regardless of whatever
erosion they cause and tracks they leave.

	Once we got down to the place,  they all had to sit in an area where
a little bit of grass was struggling out of the ground.  The kids were
allowed to wander just before we had lunch,  and I had to follow the
fastest group (which split up anyway) and had the damndest time trying to
explain why they don't need to kill all the lizards and why it isn't really
that much fun turning up rocks looking for snakes.  Maybe I should
have let them have an argument with a rattlesnake and see who wins.

	In all,  children en masse at that age seem to have little conception
of why one should try to leave a minimal impact in wild/semi-wild places.  I
found this really frustrating.

-- 
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: bwood@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Blake Philip Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: So why not use unleaded gas in a Whisperlight XGK?
Date: 20 Aug 1992 14:04:47 GMT
Organization: /etc/organizaton
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu

I recently threw out my old Bluet stove and got a Whisperlight XGK.
I was very pleased with it's performance on a recent 4-day 
hike in the Pecos Wilderness of NM.  This stove is meant to burn
white gas.  I used unleaded from the local brand-x station.
The literature that came with the stove doesn't say not to use
unleaded, but the REI catalog specifically mentions to never use
unleaded gas in a white gas stove, and there have also been several
comments to that effect in this newsgroup.

So what's the problem with unleaded?  



-- 
                 Blake P. Wood - bpw@ctxsys.lanl.gov (505) 665-6524
                 Group P-1, MS-E526, LANL, Los Alamos, NM  87545
From: cworth@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (CHUCK WORTH)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: pack animals...WAS: Oregon Wallowas
Date: 21 Aug 92 16:13:07 GMT
Reply-To: cworth@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico


 Some energetic defenses & accusations of horses in the backcountry have been
 made (I've totally lost/muddled the authorship train.)

 One author (Karl Maerz?) has noted that horses basically eat grass, grind it
 finely and deposit it in appealing/unappealing (depending on your POV) piles
 on the trail.  Unfortunately, it's not quite that simple or inconsequential.
 Horses neither chew their food well enough, nor do they digest it thoroughly
 enough.  Why you may ask do I bother to make this obscure/arcane/trivial 
 point?  Simply because horses are the MAIN reason you can hardly find any
 native grasses anywhere in California.  It started with the conquistadores 
 and goldminers bringing their horses to the coast and throwing the horses and 
 feed overboard to swim/float to shore, then the horses propagating the (more
 succesful) non-native grasses.  To find much in the way of native grasses you
 have to go to some pretty obscure canyons and high country in California.
 I presume the rest of the nation may be in a similar situation.  Seems a
 decent reason (protection of endangered species/biota) to keep pack animals
 out of the wilderness.

**********************************************************
 Chuck Worth            California State University, Chico
 CWORTH@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: gdw@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Gavin Watt)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: No dogs in Natl Parks
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:32:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Aug21.203229.21813
Reply-To: gdw@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Gavin Watt)
Organization: CCCS -- UofMinnesota


In article <1992Aug21.133411.18208@hemlock.cray.com>, gbt@cray.com (Greg
Titus) writes:
>>to find someplace to pack with your dog. You could probably take
>>a cow into the National Forest if you wanted.
>
>Not necessary, at least in New Mexico (and, I suspect, everywhere
>else).  Around here the National Forests come pre-cowed for your
>convenience.
>
Several years ago my son and I day-hiked up Flag Mtn, Kit Carson NF near
Questa NM.  I noted that horses had preceded us on the trail.  As we
cleared the high meadow and started to scramble the steep part below the
ridge my son said "Dad, I hear cows", "Foolish child", I replied "this
is the top of a mountain how would cows get up here?" [I couldn't hear
anything over the screaming from my lungs].  As we progressed I noticed
an odd shape on the ridge line above and decided it was some sort of
structure -- perhaps a quaint prayer hut erected by the folks from the
Lama Foundation -- is that Jack Kerouac over there? [This dharma bum was
getting a little light-headed]. As we neared I was enlightened --
foolish Dad -- there ARE cows up here!  A herd of 20 cows and calves
grazing at 14,000 feet.  

When I recounted the story to my brother and sister-in-law who live at
the foot of the mountain; they said yes those were cattle. A local
drives them up there in the spring and brings them down in the fall --
they were somewhat upset because they thought that area was off limits
because it is the top of the watershed for the local water supply.  
-- G.

/*Gavin Watt -- Colon Cancer Control Study, UofMinn. -- (612) 627-4151 */
/*Internet:gdw@moose.cccs.umn.edu -- BITNET:gdw%MOOSE@UMNACVX.BITNET   */
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: wjg@bluemoon.rn.com (william grimm)
Subject: Re: light weight coffee makers - (was: totally obnoxious camper w/o 
Keywords: nn
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 08:38:47 EDT

sondeen@isi.edu (Jeff Sondeen) writes:

> Does anyone know of a manual or battery-operated coffee bean grinder
> available by mail order?  (for backpacking).
> 
> Thanks.
> --
> /jeff
> 
> Life and love are as deep [as your] eyes are wide... -Rush

Are you serious, or is this a joke?  Seems to me of all the non-essentials 
I can think of to take camping, a coffee bean grinder tops the list.  And 
I'm a big coffee drinker <G>.  Maybe one of the big Swiss Army knives has 
something that will grind those beans :}.

 This is from
     wjg@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have his (or her) own obnoxious signature yet
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: rtp1@quads.uchicago.edu (raymond thomas pierrehumbert)
Subject: Re: Backcountry Coffee:  Heresy!!!!!!
Reply-To: rtp1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 01:47:48 GMT


>Am I to infer from all the previous furor that I am the only trekker to
>use (oh God, do I dare say the word.....shudder) INSTANT coffee?????
Nah, I use it all the time.  I sprinkle it around my tent
to keep the bears away.
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Natural Bridge Ky.  Backpacking advise requested
From: fpaterek@uceng.UC.EDU (Franz Paterek)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:22:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati

I am considering backpaking for a couple of days in the Natural Bridge Kentucky 
area.  Does anybody have any adivse on the nicest route to take.  Also I would
like to know if anybody has a phone # for more information.  Along the trails are
there cabins you can spend thenight in or do you have carry a shelter along with
you.

Harald
From: alberto@sun16.AER.COM (Alberto Bianco)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Looking For Info About Mt. Whitney in Winter Time
Keywords: Mt. Whitney
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:45:32 GMT
Organization: AER Inc., Cambridge, MA

I am planning to go to the top of Mt. Whitney early in January starting from
Whitney Portal. So far I have not been able to get any precise information
about snow depth, average temperatures during the day and the night for
both Whitney Portal and the top of the mountain.

I have already contacted Sequoia National Park and Mt. Whitney Wilderness
Area and consulted several books without findind such information.

I would appreciate if somebody could also tell me if and where along the 
route to the top there is a danger of avalanches, and where ice picks and 
crampons are required.

Thank you.


-- 
Alberto Bianco                      | email:  alberto@aer.com
Atmospheric Environmental Research  | voice:  (617) 547-6207
840 Memorial Drive                  |   fax:  (617) 661-6479
Cambridge MA 02139
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: allen%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Allen Sanderson)
Subject: Re: accessible = !wilderness
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:46:03 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: usa

In article AS.MSW@forsythe.stanford.edu (Marc Whitney) writes:
>There is also an extreme position that is rarely considered:  Total
>closure of an area to all humans, even backpackers and day hikers.
>I'm actually in favor of this, at least for finite periods.

They actually do this in some areas under the label of research
natural area.  The only people who legally have access to these areas
are researchers.  There is one that bourders SLC.  The only time they
open it up is during deer season and for good reason.  The fences are
so high that deer can not get in nor out in most places.  Thus the
deer population has to be keep in check or the natural grass land in
the area would be destroyed.  For once, man as a preditor is good.

Cheers,

Allen R. Sanderson

Salt Lake City, Oootah


"Pucky lads, a wee bit over their heads"

	Doug Scott after encountering two climbers
	on Denali suffering from exposure.
From: fzcapit@MIZAR.UCDAVIS.EDU (John Capitanio)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Backcountry Coffee
Date: 13 Aug 92 16:29:28 GMT
Reply-To: fzcapit@MIZAR.UCDAVIS.EDU
Organization: University of California, Davis

In article <1992Aug12.223747.2729@odin.corp.sgi.com>, kamk@sgi.com (Kameran Kashani) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.164700.29244@midway.uchicago.edu> rtp1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>+ 
>+ ...
>+ ...  Through the grounds in the kettle with 
>+ water, and bring to a boil (Don't boil for long).  Take it off,
>+ and let it stop boiling.  Throw in a small splash of cold water
>+ to settle the grounds and pour off carefully into your cup.
>+ 
>
>One idea (that I have never tried) is coffee bags.  I
>may finally do this on an upcoming trip.  Create a
>small bag using tea-bag paper, add medium to
>fine-ground coffee, staple closed with a string
>attached, use like a tea bag. Pack out the used bags.

REI used to sell premade coffee bags (looked just like tea bags).
I don't know who made them or where they came from, but I didn't see
them on my last trip to the Berkeley store.  They worked quite well,
though I found I needed to use *two* bags per cup instead of the 
recommended one to get the proper strength :-)

The idea of making them myself is an appealing one, since I could control
the coffee used.  Where can one purchase the kind of paper to make
tea or coffee bags?  Any ideas?

John Capitanio
jpcapitanio@ucdavis.edu

Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: stjohn@newton.Colorado.EDU (MATTHEW STJOHN)
Subject: Re: Oregon Wallowas...pack animals
Keywords: alpine lakes - where?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:52:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.163517.24127@eos.arc.nasa.gov> dencisco@eos.arc.nasa.gov (David Paul Encisco) writes:
>karlm@sequent.com (Karl Maerz) writes:
>
>>trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna) writes:
>>>...
>>>
>>>Pack animals should not be allowed beyond the parking lot, as they
>>>further reduce in scale the tiny fragments of remaining wilderness.
>
>>Here are some other equally stupid and inflamatory assertions:
>
>>* There is an infinitesimally small segment of the general population,
>>  known collectively as the Truly Enlightened(tm).
>>* Children should not be allowed in wilderness areas since they
>>  spoil the asthetics...
>
>>Wayne, you often sound like a spoiled little boy who wants only
>>his way to prevail and all the toys to himself.
>>Someone suggested that you LIGHTEN UP.  Excellent recommendation.
>
>Well it could be that Wayne is acting like a caged canary in a coal
>mine. But with regards to Wayne's original premise (pack animals
>should not be allowed...(in the back country)) I would have to agree
>that backpacker's are suffering at the expense of packers.... 
>

After spending several days many years ago repairing trails damaged
by horses, I have to agree with Wayne and David. The erosion caused
by pack animals on trail is rediculous. I talked to a ranger one 
time about this and he said that many eastern senators think that 
pack animals are natural so they should be allowed in the back 
country. Pack animals were introduced to this part of the world by
European explorers, and the wilderness here is just not designed
to handle the destuction caused by them. Tells you how much our
federal government know :).

matt
From: ed@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: light weight coffee makers - (was: totally obnoxious camper w/o my espresso)
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:53:05 GMT
Reply-To: ed@titipu.meta.com (Edward Reid)
Organization: Accuracy, Ltd.
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.6v0


 burris@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jim Burris) writes:
>    Probably so. BTW, I have seen and used two different brands of non-bleached
> coffee filters. Can't think of their names, though.

Walnut Acres carries unbleached coffee filters.  "Fits all #4 cone-style coffee
makers".  100 for $4.89.  1-800-433-3998 or +1 717 837 0601.

Edward Reid  (8*}>
  eel:   ed@titipu.meta.com  or  nosc.mil!titipu.meta.com!ed
  snail: PO Box 378/Greensboro FL 32330
From: scott@hpcvccl.cv.hp.com (Scott Linn)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Subject: Re: Going to Oregon
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:44:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvca.1992Aug13.184427.9644
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

jeanette@hpmcaa (Jeanette Skelton) writes:
: 
: The Columbia Gorge is just east of Portland. Drive on the old highway,
: which has beautiful views of the gorge. You can stop at Multnomah
: Falls, which is lovely but very crowded. I guess a good hike is
: Eagle Creek, which passes several falls. It is also kind of heavily
: used, but it's not quite as bad once you get away from the highway.
: The gorge in general is beautiful and easy to get to, but that also
: means a lot of people go there.

Don't forget Beacon Rock (on the Washington side).  It's a fun short
hike to the top.

Scott Linn
scott@hpcvccl.cv.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: dlg47782@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tegid Tathal)
Subject: Re: When the bee stings.
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:03:40 GMT

equacken@cser.encore.com (Eric Quackenbush) writes:

>What do you all use for bee stings and other painfull insect bites?

>Thanks,
>Eric Quackenbush
>equacken@encore.com

I have always carried a small supply of baking soda.  When mixed with water
(or saliva) and applied to the sting it works quite well.  Takes out the
pain and a lot of the burning assosciated with many bites.  I use it only
for bee, wasp, and ant; don't know how it works for other bites.
	-Tegid.  (dlg@fourier.tam.uiuc.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
From: sherod@newton.Colorado.EDU (Scott Herod)
Subject: Re: Bear Identification
Keywords: bears
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 03:21:42 GMT

In article <38=C02CO1e1s01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> jjh00@OUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Joel J. Hanes) writes:
>
>  scott@phylo.life.uiuc.edu (Scott Howard) writes:
>>
>> Telling the difference between Black Bears and Grizzlies is very easy-
>>
>> The highest point on a Grizz' body is its front shoulders, whereas
>> a black bear's head is its head.
>>
>> A Grizz' toes point in, a black's point out.
>
>Black: Straight line from top of head to nose
>Griz:  Noticeable bump at eyebrows, "dished" snout below.

After having encountered each in Yellowstone I will never wonder
again.  The griz was much fuller.

Now we need them in the San Juans.

Scott Herod
From: Ecology Center Fund <ecologycntr@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.backcountry
Date: 20 Aug 92 08:25 PDT
Subject: Re: Comments on Yellowstone and WOL
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug17.083813.2035@hellgate.u:1162610776:cdp:1449600024:000:91
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!ecologycntr    Aug 20 08:25:00 1992


Maybe the elk thought the skiers were coming to put more heart monitors
on them?

;)
chris
From: turner@safety.ICS.UCI.EDU (Clark Savage Turner WA3JPG)
Subject: Old Kenwood parts
Newsgroups: rec.radio.swap
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:03:44 GMT

I had posted a message about obtaining older Kenwood radio parts from
Pacific Coast Parts Distributors.  I got several inquiries about
their location and telephone number.  I do not have a zip code, but
here is the info:

Pacific Coast Parts Distributors
15024 Staff Court
Gardena, CA.

(800) 262 1312
(310) 515 0207
(310) 538 4919 (fax).

I have come to learn that while they do not have ALL the old stuff, they
have access to quite a selection.  Their prices are not low, but when I
needed the dual gate MOSFET for the 520 VFO, I was happy to pay $7 for
a $2 part and be done with it.  The MOSFET works fine.

Clark, WA3JPG