From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: Asian-male, nerd, geek, etc.
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 21:47:34 GMT

In article <2521@usna.NAVY.MIL> wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL
(Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>) writes:
>In article <kko.2p6c@terapin.com> kko@terapin.com (Kenneth Ko..) writes:
>>I wanna know what's the DIFFERENCE between the suffixes mean.  I mean, from
>>what I've read, a person can only be one of these.  I personally am chinese
>>culturally (-cu), and chinese genetically (-ge).  Sorry I'm not a citizen
>>of a chinese nation but I wanted my right to vote.  I can also say that I'm a
>>chinese-vb (volleyball player), chinese-st (student), and chinese-hd
>>(hoopty-driver).  I need a little more explanation to these two common
>>suffixes... are they even relevant to discussions?
>I think these distinctions are quite relevant to the discussions here.
>For example, I've seen many posters draw some conclusion about typical
>behavior of `Asian men' (meaning `Asian-cu men') and then a few sentences
>this conclusion is being applied to `Asian men' again (but this time
>meaning `Asian-ge' men).  Use of these suffixes or some other distinguishing
>terminology makes the contradiction more obvious.

Most of the people in s.c.a.a. who make this contradiction are
Chinese-cu, by their very own admission.  The fact that there are so
many Chinese-cu racists in s.c.a.a. is a major rub.

>  Again, for example,
>if I make some statement to the effect that `Japanese-ge women usually
>have the following personality traits...' it's guaranteed to be stupid;
>whereas, if I make a statement of the type `Japanese-cu women usually
>have the following personality traits...' it's stupid only some of the time.
>BTW, please don't say that you don't understand the difference between
>Chinese-ge and Chinese-cu.  You'll only get you-know-who started up again.

Who is "you-know-who"?  I haven't a clue.

In any event, I am not surprised that Mr. Ko has trouble in distinguishing
between Chinese-cu Chinese-ge.  Most Chinese-cu seem to have that problem.

By contrast, Americans-cu, Japanese-cu, etc. are able to distinguish between
culture (behavior) and ethnicity (genetics).  Recently, I had a Japanese-cu
conversation with a Japanese-cu, a Chinese-cu (ugh!), and an American-cu.
For 10 frigging minutes, out of deference to the Japanese-cu and the
American-cu, I had to stomach the Chinese-cu cultural crap that kept spewing
out of the Chinese-cu mouth.  It was imminently clear that she could not
distinguish between Chinese-cu and Chinese-ge, being the racist that she
is.

Chinese-cu think that a Japanese-(ge-)American will automatically
do the Japanese-cu "thing" simply because she is Japanese-ge.  This is
precisely what rednecks, Klansmen, and Nazis think.

Oh sister!  Someone's been smoking too many eggrolls tainted with
sweet and sour sauce.  Ugh!

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