HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eurgile@atss.calstatela.edu
Subject: kesey's book: free reading!!
Reply-To: eurgile@atss.calstatela.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 23:35:12 GMT

                                            
In case you havent already heard, there will be a reading of Keseys book "The 
Sea Lion" and "little Tricker the Squirrel" by ken Kesey & some other books 
by Barry Lopez [whoom I've never heard of] in Los Angeles {soory dont know how
to do local distribution, but I have to read about what's going on in the East
all the time so now were even.}

The L.A. Weekly sez:
Bring the kids to see former Merry Prankster Ken Kesey (author of One Flew 
Over the Cukoos Nest & Sometimes a Great Notion) perform The Sea Lion & Little
Trickster the Squirrel, two children's stories that prominently feature 
Nature. Trickster, told to kesey by his grandmother Smith, is a fable about 
greed; The Sea Lion, derived from Native American folklore, instills both fear
and love of nature by describing "the beginnigs of the Sea Lion People" 
brought about by the courageous act acts of a crippled boy named Eemook.  For 
the adults among us Barry Lopez reads The Rediscovery of North America, a 
lyrical & impassioned plea to listen to the continent that has been raped & 
pillaged since the landing of Christoforo Colombo (whose last name means 
"dove").  "To approach the land as we would a person, by opening an 
intelligent conversation." To open ourselves to Lopea's writings (arctic 
dreams, Of Wolves and Men) is to reconceive the relationship between the land,
ourselves, and the cosmos. Kesey, introduced by Dennis Hopper [What a pair!!! 
-me] reads at John Anson Ford Ampitheatre, 2580 Cahuenga Blvd. East; sat., 
Oct3, 2 pm;Free!!!!!!!(310)659-3110, Lopez reads at the Pacific Design Center,
Center Green Theatre, 8687 Melrose Ave., W. Hollywood.; Mon Oct. 5 7:30 pm;$5,
$2.50 students &seniors (213) 660 8587.

                                               
Quoted somewhat completely without permission, (all errors are mine and 
nobody elses:-) but the folks at the L.A. Weekly probably wont mind!:-) See ya
on saturday, I'll be the one wearing the obnoxiously bright tie-dye:-)
-ed



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From: MT.DRM@forsythe.stanford.edu (Doug Menke)
Subject: JGB at Oakland Coliseum on Halloween
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:17:10 GMT

The Bass recording of upcoming on sale shows lists The JGB at
Oakland Stadium (I think they must mean the arena) on October 31 as
going on sale this Sunday, October 4, 1992.  Happy Halloween!!!
From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Overdubbed Vocals on Without A Net
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:54:10 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Bill Andrejko writes...
>
>	Ok, so I've seen the posts here as of late that claim that certain
>Garcia vocals were overdubbed on "Without A Net".  I'll assume for the moment
>that this is true.  If so, shouldn't the band be liable for FALSE ADVERTISING???The overdubs invalidate the name of the album.  The overdubs are The Net.
>They also invalidate the claim of being a "live" album.  I want my money back.
>Whats next?  Jerry lipsynchin at shows?

Yes, there are some Jerry vocal overdubs, definitely on Eyes (along with
Weir) and Help->Slip->Frank.  With the exception of a few bars on Eyes,
though, none of the *music* is overdubbed or (arrrrgh!) edited, and that's
what counts.  I'll also contend that WITHOUT A NET is a fine representation
of the Dead circa 1989-90, and certainly a helluva lot better than the
hacked DEAD SET and the lifeless STEAL YOUR FACE.


 *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 | John J. Wood                              jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu  |
 *-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=*
 |			PLEASE GET WELL, JERRY!!!   			  |
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 | "Blow the horn, and tap the tambourine..."                  		  |
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From: begonias@wam.umd.edu (Jeremy Ritzer)
Subject: 3 FTV ????
Keywords: 1971-1972
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:26:26 GMT


Has anybody heard anything beyond just the general rumors for 3 FTV ???
	A friend in rhe music store busness said he read that a 1971/1972
	(and/or) FTV was due out next month....  Anybody heard anything
	that specific?  
I would expect that someone on here would have posted something if it was
	that imminent, but....... ya' never know.
Anyone in the know know?????
Thanks......


-- 
Popular culture is the art of making do with what the system provides!
                 Jeremy Ritzer          begonias@wam.umd.edu
                
               
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From: terrapin@jessica.stanford.edu (Robert Zeien)
Subject: Re: Coming to the Bay Area....what's up?
Organization: Academic Information Resources
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 18:49:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct05.215315.25271@attics.rn.com> rdr@attics.rn.com (Dean Riddlebarger) writes:
>Well, it looks like my timing for InterOp could be a little better; I'll
>be flying *out* of San Francisco the day before the Halloween show.
>Sigh.
>
>So, what else is going on in the general vicinity of downtown SF (or
>any other location readily reachable by BART) during the last week of
>the month?  I'll be booked solid in conferences etc. during the day,
>but the evenings are all mine and I've never been in the city proper
>before.

There are some great SF Jazz Festival shows happening during InterOp
week.  Ken Nordine & Friends will appear at Bimbo's 365 Club on Wed.
10/28.  There's no indication yet just who the "Friends" will be, but
we all know that Jer and David Grisman played on Ken's Devout Catalyst.
Then on Thurs. 10/29 there's a John Coltrane Tribute at the newly
renovated Davies Symphony Hall.  Performers will be the Elvin Jones
Jazz Machine (w/Coltrane's son, Ravi), Tommy Flanagan, and Pharaoh
Sanders.  Lots of other shows, too, and plenty of great food & drink
in the city.  Maybe there should be an InterOp net gathering...

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From: MATT HARGROVE <HARCM%RHODES.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: Misc. Dead Questions
Reply-To: HARCM%RHODES.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:41:34 GMT

Hello. In a lyrics book i picked up from a pal, in Little Red Rooster there
is a [] that contains the words Brent Rap. Now i have a portion of Mickey's
Fire Rap from Berlin '90 (i would love to acquire Europe '90 shows,
especially Paris and the entire Berlin II), but have never heard of this.
Please enlighten me with a trade. My second question has to do with Woodstock.
i have acquired a tape with a Woodstock excerpt (low quality but who cares
for this significant show): Mama Tried, Dark Star, High Time, and a Jam. What
else was played (i am Dead-Base-less)? Does anyone have access to the majority
or entire Summer Tour and want to arrange a massive trade? How many times has
Bobstar been played (i have a Merriwether Post show that has it)? Thanks for
helping me out.

                                                Kind, as always,
                                                        Matt Hargrove
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From: Victor A D'Amato <DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu>
Subject: 6-17-91 Dark Star teases
Reply-To: DAMATO@unc.oit.unc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:33:11 GMT


I noticed a keyboard fill by Vince in the Masterpiece which follows
the first DS jam, that is reminescent of the A to G change in Dark
Star.  Could just be my imagination though...

Vic
From: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com (Jeff Lester)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Ventura '85 (was Re: Lovelight poll and misc.)
Date: 30 Sep 92 02:41:29 GMT
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet

Cormac writes:

|Anybody got the setlists for the Ventura 85 shows? I'd be curious to 
|see them again. 

Ask, and ye shall receive:

7/13/85 Ventura County Fairgrounds, Ventura, CA 

One More Saturday Night
Fire on the Mountain
Walkin' Blues
Dupree's Diamond Blues
Mama Tried
Big River
Bird Song
The Music Never Stopped

Touch of Grey
Man Smart/Woman Smarter
Terrapin Station
drums
The Wheel
Cryptical Envelopment
The Other One
Comes a Time
Around and Around
Sugar Magnolia

U.S. Blues


7/14/85 Ventura County Fairgrounds, Ventura, CA 

Hell in a Bucket
They Love Each Other
My Brother Esau
Althea
Cassidy
Big Railroad Blues
Looks Like Rain
Might as Well

China Cat Sunflower
I Know You Rider
Samson and Delilah
Ship of Fools
Estimated Prophet
Eyes of the World
drums
Truckin'
Smokestack Lightning
Black Peter
Throwing Stones
Not Fade Away

Day Job


A mighty fine pair of shows as I recall.

-Jeff
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From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: LOOKIN' FOR MCGUIRE!
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:33:15 GMT

In article <92273.134036MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep29.161832.27698@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, ADJS000
><ADJS@nmumus.bitnet> says:
>>I'd love to get in contact with a tested and proven Deadhead, John
>
>'Tested and proven Deadhead'?  I don't think we ever decided exactly what
>a Deadhead is, much less how to prove one is :-).  Who administered this
>test? :-)

Why, a tested and proven Deadhead tester and prover, of course!
There's this little alley in San Rafael where you get licensed,
er, tested and proven.

Bill
>
>Joe Doheny


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From: Superuser <root%admiral.UUCP@cs.yale.edu>
Subject: Please remove "skyjuice" from your digest
Reply-To: root%admiral.UUCP@cs.yale.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 09:25:47 GMT

He has exceeded his mail quota here on system "admiral."
I would appreciate that you remove him from the "Dead-Flames"
list. Thank you.

Doug Fields
Admiral System Administrator
From: andy@cse.ucsc.edu (Andy John)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: dead sighting
Date: 29 Sep 1992 02:56:24 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu

HEY!!! I had my first dead sighting!! I was at a party at the palace of
fine arts in San Fran (Stone Design got Barlow to put it together, it
was WAY COOL) and Bob Weir showed up!
Unfortunatly he wasn't social, except for the half dozen beautifull
women sitting at his table. They were kind of surrounding him and he was
against a wall so you couldn't just walk up and say hi.
  But that didn't stop me (from trying). I was going to ask him if he
  wanted to see some dead related 3d computer graphics (the program the
  party was being thrown for). Unfortunatly this one woman would not
  stop talking and pawing him, and he was more or less just staring at
  her (never looked at me once) and ocassionally nodding. So I concluded
  he didn't want to talk to me so I left. :(. Bummer. Oh well.
  When I first walked by I literally did a tripple take. Then it took me
  several minutes of subtle gawking to be sure it was him. I had to get
  a friend to come over to be sure :)
  His tablemates were interesting... yuppie groupies. THey were all in
  their 30's and well dressed and beautifull, but they all sort of hung
  off him .
  
  Finally got a dead sighting! And I just moved here 3 weeks ago (Santa
  Cruz).
  
  Andy
  .
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From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: SHAMELESS BAY AREA VENUE NO
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:19:12 GMT

and speaking of kesey ...

he's giving a reading at the santa cruz civic auditorium in santa
cruz tomorrow evening at 7:30; i don't know what he's reading from
but my friend is taking her son, and i think the tix are only $8.

ODC:  i'm wearing my stanford dead t-shirt while typing this ...
close enough?

lara
-<-@
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From: Jeff Althoff <jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Jeff's tape of the week: 3/24/90 II
Reply-To: jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:44:45 GMT

Hi Everyone!

I've been listening to 3/24/90 ][ a lot lately. It's from
the Knickerbocker Arena, Albany NY. Set II is

Playin > Uncle John's > Terrapin > JAM > drums > space >
wheel > watchtower > stella > NFA.

E: AWBYGN

My tape is a soundboard of unknown generation, AWBYGN is audience
for some reason. Anyhow, the show is well played, and the jam after
Terrapin is just totally amazing!! I don't know if the statisticians
have a name for this one (is it the "Mind Left Body" that I've never been 
able to pin down?) but it is really a piece of music, it sounds almost
rehearsed but it wouldn't surprise me to find out that it wasn't. It's 
an instrumental theme completely different from Terrapin (or Playin', 
or Uncle John's..) The whole band is playing on the Jam and it 
definitely seems like a worked out piece. This is the only tape I've
heard it on, but my collection is a little sparse (especially of 
'90). 

Anyone else know this tape and the Jam I'm talking about? Has it been 
played elsewhere? It's really great...

Grooving,
Jeff A.
-- 
--------------------------------------------
Jeff Althoff    jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu

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From: andrew@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Andrew Shields)
Subject: Re: Enough Neil is ENOUGH!
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Distribution: tub
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:40:15 GMT

In <1992Oct6.013447.25730@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Tom_Jacobs@qms1.life.uiuc.edu (Tom Jacobs) writes:
>hand.  It was never very funny (MHO) to begin with and it has now grown into a
>whopping waste of r.m.gd bandwidth, esp. for those of us who read the digest.  

I don't know, "I am the fork, you are the spoon, eat me" was probably
the funniest thing I've ever read on the net.   :-) 

And the whole element of self-parody (I mean, who would have a whole
bulletin board for *one band*!) adds a bit of health to the discourse
here, especially during periods when the GD aren't touring.

Just wait until they are, then we won't here much more about ND or
about FYA anymore ...

What's that thing George Harrison once said about his kidneystone?

"All things must pass."

:-)
Andrew
From: jawalsh@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (John A. Walsh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Overdubbed Vocals on Without A Net
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:24:53 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Sep29.135410.8708@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood) writes:
>Bill Andrejko writes...
>>
>>	Ok, so I've seen the posts here as of late that claim that certain
>>Garcia vocals were overdubbed on "Without A Net".  I'll assume for the moment
>>that this is true.  If so, shouldn't the band be liable for FALSE ADVERTISING???The overdubs invalidate the name of the album.  The overdubs are The Net.
>>They also invalidate the claim of being a "live" album.  I want my money back.
>>Whats next?  Jerry lipsynchin at shows?
>

Yes, this happens, for a number of reasons.  One reason is to cover up
the kind of lyric screw-ups to which Jerry is so prone.  The other major
reason is simply because the lyrics were lost in the mix of the original
recording.  Some of my favorite live albums (David Live (Bowie) and
Peter Gabriel Plays Live) also use extensive overdubbing--but they both
admit what they're doing somewhere on the album.  Personnally, I don't
care if they overdub a little to make it sound better.  There are always
tapes to get the "real" thing.

John
-- 
**********John A. Walsh, Dept. of English, Indiana University************
*               jawalsh@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Internet)               *
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From: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Subject: Ren and Stimpy leftovers
Reply-To: andrejkow@tbosch.dnet.ge.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:50:28 GMT


	If anyone knows of a source for one of the many designs incorporating
the Ren and Stimpy theme along with The Dead into a T-Shirt, I'd apreciate
some e-mail from you.  A friend with an upcoming birthday would be very grateful	Thanx.

Obligatory Diamond Content: The Diamondback Advisory Committee will be meeting
in two weeks.  Nominations for Diamondback of the Month will be considered.
From: tracer@carson.u.washington.edu (David P. Tracer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Little Feat & Clifton Hanger
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:52:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct5.195244.24002
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Oct5.192342.453@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> APOEHLER@ucs.indiana.edu writes:

>Question #2, sure to get me flamed (gee, I'm trembling already):  What exactly
>is behind the dedication of _Without A Net_ to Clifton Hanger?  Yes, I know
>it's Brent, but why do they call him that.  I get the 'Cliff Hanger' bit, but
>I can't help thinking that there's got to be something else behind it than a
>not-very funny pun.  
>----Aaron

I had heard that each member of the band had a pseudonym that they used
when checking into hotels when they were on tour.  Apparently "Clifton
Hanger" was chosen by Brent as his own pseudonym.  

	************************************************************
        *                       David P. Tracer                    *
        *                  University of Washington                *
        *                   tracer@u.washington.edu                *
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        *                  Believe it if you need it               *
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From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Americans Feel Good About the 21st Century
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:04:45 GMT


From Reuters News Service comes this report:

Jesus Christ will return to Earth, the United States will have a
woman or black president, and AIDS and cancer will be eradicated
after the year 2000, according to a majority of Americans, a TIME
magazine poll said yesterday.

It said pollsters asked 800 adult Americans what developments
they feel will most likely take place in the next century in the 
fields of politics, science and society.

Given a list of possible occurances in the 21st century, 

75 percent said scientists will find a cure for AIDS 
80 percent expect a cure for cancer.
76 percent optimistic about the prospects for a woman president
76 percent optimiatic about the prospects for a black president
75 percent expect that cars will no longer run on gasoline
41 percent expect that the world will be in better shape by the end of 2100

53 percent of Americans believe the Second Coming of Jesus Christ will 
occur sometime in the next 1000 years.

The poll's margin of error is plus or minus 3.5 percentage points.
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Subject: Re: LOOKIN' FOR MCGUIRE!
From: <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 13:40:36 EDT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company


In article <1992Sep29.161832.27698@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, ADJS000
<ADJS@nmumus.bitnet> says:
>I'd love to get in contact with a tested and proven Deadhead, John

'Tested and proven Deadhead'?  I don't think we ever decided exactly what
a Deadhead is, much less how to prove one is :-).  Who administered this
test? :-)

Joe Doheny

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: SHAMELESS BAY AREA VENUE NO
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:14:34 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.193547.12952@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
tomas@leland.Stanford.EDU (Thomas J. Monica) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.191021.15170@morrow.stanford.edu> EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
>>Tom, Gaile, etc. re carousel ballroom and the fire from backstage.
>>
>>i seem to recall reading something about this in the acid test book,
>>wasn't it one of the pranksters, kesey himself or cassady perhaps
>>who did this?  geez, if only acid test was referenced like the true
>>scholarly text that it IS, i could just look this up in the index.
>>anybody else remember?
>>
>>lara
>>-<-@
>>
>
> Doesn't this happen in "The Grateful Dead Movie" (title?)
>of the early 80's.
>I beleive it was shot in Winterland. You remember
>the discussion here about
>the angry dude who thought he was being exploited.
>
>I didn't recognize the guy, but I'm sure he wasn't
>Ken or Neil -WAY TOO YOUNG!
good memory: yeah, i remember the guy in the movie talking about
exploitation, and everone was kinda looking at him and wondering
what is he NOT on??  of course, that wasn't kesey or cassady, but i
thought i remembered kesey talking about the pyrotechnics of the
shows, maybe one of the early stinson beach shows, but anyway, guess
it's time to reread acid test, when i can't remember my citations.
i can't review the movie, i lost custody of it :(.

>tom
>
>
thanks for your input

>--
>Porpise: run, bike, swim, make cookies
yes, but what is its TRUE porpoise?

>
>
>"long distance runner, what you holding out for?"
the water squirt bottle ... :)
lara
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From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: Little Feat & Clifton Hanger
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 20:38:48 GMT


Supposedly, Clifton Hanger was Brent's alias when he was
staying in hotels on the road.

Anniversary flash: first Frost show 10-9-82 turns ten on
Friday.


Bill
From: mjohnson@cco.caltech.edu (Mary L. Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: favorite venues...
Date: 4 Oct 1992 02:04:44 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: alumni.caltech.edu
Summary: Irvine

In article <1992Oct2.174904.3231@cci632.cci.com> srw@cci632.cci.com (Steve Windsor) writes:
> i'm posting this for a friend...
>
>   My $0.02 for the favorite venue thread:  I surprised that nobody 
>   else has nominated Irvine Meadows Ampitheater :-) :-) :-).  Being 
>   from the East (Rochester, NY) I was really impressed by the 
>   layout, the always perfect weather, and the view of the mountains 
>   behind the stage.  This view would get even nicer after dark with 
>   millions of tiny little car lights from the two expressways.  And 
>   relatively small for a place with lawn seating (about 15-16K I 
>   believe).
>         

Not to mention that in the early years there were LIONS running 
around out there (Lion Country Safari, I think I remember).
Chula Vista was great fum for a one-shot concert, especially because
it was in the middle of new suburbs in a housing boom time:
gazillions of condos with "open house" signs and flags and
barefoot deadheads wandering in with wads of cash --
"does that community college band always sound like that?"

Unfavorite venue: the Gahden.  I swear that I left it onetime
and got lost in the bowels of Mass. Gen. Hospital, convinced
that I'd turn into a pillar of salt if I looked behind me...

Mary Johnson
mjohnson@alumni.caltech.edu