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From: baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: McCaffrey advice
Date: 14 Aug 92 18:52:03 GMT
Reply-To: baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California

In article <1992Aug14.162130.25034@cco.caltech.edu>, ojvind@cns.caltech.edu (Ojvind Bernander) writes:
>Never having read a McCaffrey book, I'd like to try one.
>But she seems to write long series and I don't want to
>accidentally pick one up in the middle.  What is a good
>first book to read?
>
>-- Ojvind  (ojvind@cns.caltech.edu)
>
IMHO the only thing of hers truly worth reading are the Pern
stories. By story chonology, they go something like the following:

[oops! forgot the name of the one where they land on Pern. The title
should be clear]

Moreta	-  -  -  -  - 	Nerilka's Story		
						Renegades of Pern
Dragonflight						|
Dragonquest		Dragonsong			|
     |			Dragonsinger			|
			Dragondrums			|
The White Dragon					|
							|
All the Weyrs of Pern	-	-	-	-	-

Frankly, I don't know how you aren't going to pick this up from 
the middle, since that's the way she wrote them (Starting with
Dragonflight).	Moreta and Nerilka's Story cover the same events
from a different viewpoint (and those events were referred to
at least 600 years later in Dragonsinger, though legend distorted the
tale). Read Moreta, then only if you really liked that so much 
that you've got to have more, read Nerilka.

Dragonsong, -singer, and -drums (collectively known as the
Harper Hall trilogy) occur during the period of Dragonquest, and
characters in the harper hall are affected by the Pern-shaking
events of Dragonquest. Renegades is practically a "Generation Novel"
and I would not read it before the others in the same period.

All the Weyrs is definitely the last. Absolutely do not read it 
before the others! (Too many spoilers.)

The landing story is not less than 800 years before Moreta, 
Moreta is at least 600 years before Dragonflight, and from 
Dragonflight through All the Weyrs is something like 30 years 
(probably on the short side of that).
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From: jsbell@acs.ucalgary.ca (Joshua Bell)
Subject: Re: Accurate covers (was Re: Yet Another Misleading Cover)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 16:04:29 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <15130@suns6.crosfield.co.uk> jc@crosfield.co.uk (jerry cullingford) writes:
>In article <1992Aug8.183546.11966@mikejag.wimsey.bc.ca> pally@mikejag.wimsey.bc.ca (Pally Hoffstein) writes:
>>Can anyone think of a book that had a promising, well-done cover where the
>>contents of the book lived up to promise of the cover and the cover proved
>>accurate?
>
>Covers seem to fall into three groups:

[Interesting analysys nuked, as you've prolly already read it.]

_Barlowe's Guide to Extra-Terrestrials_, by artist W. Douglas
Barlowe has, as part of its introduction, comments about this
topic. He prefers to read the entire manuscript before, but many
publishers simply send notes to the artist of the form 'Give me a
humanoid cat, wearing armor, on a planet with two moons. Oh, his
fur is white.' Don't blame the artists, for first editions at
least. 

_Farseer_, a fluffy novel that got entirely too Dune-ish at the
end had a very accurate cover, which is what drew me to the book
in the first place. Anything by Michael Whelan (esp. the NA
Dragonriders of Pern series - IMHO, the UK covers tend to be a
bit more accurate in the scenes they portray, but the actual
things they portray are very inaccurate. Eg, scales on the
dragons, #-legs on firelizards, etc.) gets high marks in my
books. 

The Del Ray editions of the Foundation and Robot series' by
Asimov were also very well done, if a little 'posed'. Ditto for
Jupiter Theft, Genesis and Second Genesis (tho the author's name
escapes me on those. Damn memory...).

Joshua

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From: zatar@dadstoy.uucp (Terry Stockdale)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Lois McMaster Bujold - recommendations?
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 20:28:12 CDT
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ericsa@microsoft.com (Eric Sassaman) writes:

> I just finished Bujold's _Falling Free_. I was very impressed. However I was
> disappointed with _Brothers In Arms_. I'd like to try some more Bujold but
> perhaps stay away from her Vorkosigan (sp?) novels. I've seen good words
> about _Warrior's Apprentice_... any other recommendations of Bujold's works?
> Thanks in advance!

Try The Vor Game, which IS one of the Vorkosigan novels.  It won the Hugo.
It is quite entertaining, and got me started on her works.  Actually not
quite true -- I had read the Falling Free novelette and a Vorkosigan
short story in Analog a couple of years ago. (I'm doing better now;  I'm 
less than three years behind on reading my Analog subscription).


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From: aaron@space.ualberta.ca (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: John E. Stith
Reply-To: aaron@space.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:20:55 GMT

I don't know about getting any of his books, but the only Stith book I read was
one called Redshift Rendezvous, which was not on your list, but which provided
one of the best practical introductions to applied relativity I've ever seen.

The premise was that in hyperspace, the speed of light was slower, but the
"mapping" to the universe increased in scale more rapidly.  The net effect was
that going into hyperspace was faster, by a factor of two for every "level" of
hyperspace you went into.

At cruising level, the speed of light was about 10 m/s, as I recall.  So
relativistic effects became quite noticeable.  Also, they had a black hole at
the center of the ship, so gravitational effects also became noticeable.  On
one deck, light actually orbitted, so a spherical deck surface appeared flat...

Anyway, I remember at the time that many people had trouble getting hold of it.
I read a friend's copy, and quite enjoyed it, but have given up on trying to
get my own.

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From: tarl@sw.stratus.com (Tarl Neustaedter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Vinge on A Fire Upon the Deep
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:48:20 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.

In article <86693@netnews.upenn.edu>, weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener) writes:
> I'm waiting for the AFUTD paperback, so I haven't read it yet.  Meanwhile,
> I'm wondering how "Blabber" can fit in without being spoiled.

Not cleanly. Some of the characters are shared (Ravna), and it's clear that
this Blabber is some (long) time after the events in AFUTD. 

There are other probable connection; In "Blabber", they are trying to create
a person who has died, whom Ravna had an intense relationship with. One of
the main characters in AFUTD has a relationship with Ravna that might fit,
but the descriptions don't really match.

The character "Tines" could be any of a number of tines associations in
AFUTD. My guesses would be either Flenser or Pilgrim. EIther the timeframes
are much larger than I'd guess (much longer than normal human lifetimes),
and enough has happened between the two stories that the events in AFUTD
have paled in comparison, or the stories don't fit together at all well.
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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Accurate covers (was Re: Yet Another Misleading Cover)
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:35:36 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

jc@crosfield.co.uk (jerry cullingford) writes:
>Covers seem to fall into three groups:

>Unrelated/recycled - nothing to do with the book at all. Either the
>artist hadn't read the book, or the publisher recycled a different picture.

This is one thing that really disgusts me about the books I have from
the 50's and 60's, especially the 60's.  The covers are really,
really, bad, and almost never have anything to do with the book.  A
recurring theme is big letters in a typical stupid 60's type
"distorted" font (such as used in the "LOVE" art/stamp), and one or
two distorted and elongated figures that vaguely resemble humans.

If not that, they'll have some futuristic city in some appropriately
SF setting, usually a desert.
-- 
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From: jen@athena.mit.edu (Jennifer Hawthorne)
Subject: Re: seeking a Bujold story
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:05:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.004008.26616@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:

>Ms Bujold basically has a small future history going, as follows:
>
>Falling Free
>Shards of Honor
>Barrayar
>The Warrior's Apprentice
>The Vor Game
>Ethan of Athos
>Borders of Infinity (a short story collection)
>Brothers in Arms
>
>To keep this post short, the above is series chonology, which somewhat
>resembles the order in which she wrote them. I like the later ones
>better than the earlier, though the weakest of the bunch, "Falling
>Free" is what I'd term "nice, fun, and simple") Most of these stories
>Follow either Cordelia Naismith, or her son Miles.

A friendly amendment to the chronology -- the three short stories in
Borders of Infinity are properly placed in three separate areas of the
chronology, while the framing story is placed in yet another, as
follows:

>Falling Free
>Shards of Honor
>Barrayar
>The Warrior's Apprentice
 "The Mountains of Mourning" (BoI)
>The Vor Game
>Ethan of Athos
 "Labyrinth" (?? did I get this title right?? The Jackson's WHole
	story in BoI)
 "Borders of Infinity" (BoI)
>Brothers in Arms
 Borders of Infinity framing story.

I wouldn't necessarily suggest reading them in oder, by the way,
unless you're a real fanatic for reading things chronologically.   I
read "Brothers in Arms" first and think that hearing the references to
past events and then going and reading the real stories enhanced my
appreciation of them a fair bit.  (Your mileage may vary.)

>I'm hoping this isn't the end of the series, myself.

Ditto. Double ditto.  Excellent space opera.  I heard here on the Net
somewhere a while ago that she's back to working on another book in
this universe after finishing an unconnect fantasy novel. Does anyone
have any more news on when it's expected to be out?

Jen

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From: novak@wri.com (John M. Novak)
Subject: Re: Vinge on A Fire Upon the Deep
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:54:39 GMT

In article <MATT.92Aug21100755@physics16.berkeley.edu>
matt@physics16.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern) writes:
>In article <7z#n!sq.dani@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>
>> Vinge believes science
>> fiction which ignores the potential of such a Singularity to be dishonest.
>> The problem is that accepting it severely limits the potential for writing
>> science fiction.  So he deliberately set out to create a milieu in which
>> interesting stories (the current book and possibly future ones) could be
>> placed. 
>> 
...
>Now, in "The Blabber," Vinge says a Singularity requires some kind of
>extension of the physical laws that we know and love.  (FTL, for
>example.)  I think that he has gotten around his argument for the
>inevitability of a Singularity just by ignoring it.
>

I think you have the argument backwards; he firmly believes that the
Singularity can occur in our universe, but wants to write SF that is 'honest'
despite this; so he modifies physical laws to *prevent* the Singularity, not to
*allow* the Singularity.
--John N.
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From: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Vinge on A Fire Upon the Deep
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:18:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: netnews.86693
Reply-To: weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu (Matthew P Wiener)
Organization: The Wistar Institute of Anatomy and Biology
In-reply-to: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)

In article <7z#n!sq.dani@netcom.com>, dani@netcom (Dani Zweig) writes:
>I sat in on a talk in which Vernor Vinge gave some background on his book
>"A Fire Upon the Deep", and explained some material that hadn't been clear
>to me from reading the book itself.  [omitted]

>A final note:  Vinge's earlier short story, "Blabber", takes place in this
>same milieu, a couple of thousand years later.

About half of the above omitted description, including Vinge's motivation
and beliefs regarding honest science fiction vs the Singularity, can be
found in the "Blabber" story and the informational afteword to it in his
THREATS AND OTHER PROMISES collection.

I'm waiting for the AFUTD paperback, so I haven't read it yet.  Meanwhile,
I'm wondering how "Blabber" can fit in without being spoiled.  That story
derived a lot of its impact from the unfolding mystery regarding the Zones
and the true nature of the Tines.
-- 
-Matthew P Wiener (weemba@sagi.wistar.upenn.edu)
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From: davidba@carmel.technion.ac.il (David Ben_Ami)
Subject: Re: Death Gate Cycle
Organization: Technion, Israel Inst. of Technology
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 12:35:09 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.201637.21651@ms.uky.edu> miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant) writes:
>The Fizbang <or whatever> character turned me off pretty bad at first.
>I did enjoy the dragon, but hated Fiz's references. It seems the character

>comes from a previous series by Weis&Hickman, and seems to be a "pet"
>character. Most people that have read the other series, seem to enjoy
>him in the Death Gate Cycle.
SPOLIER

 
Fizban is one of the more eccentric characters in the first Dragonlance
Chronicles series - He seems indeed very silly all the time but the end
turns up to be the Good God  Paladin incarnated.

All along the books he seems quite senile and even plain wierdo. He
serves as deus-ex-machin several times.

>Steve

David.
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From: willimsa@unix1.tcd.ie (Gavin Williams)
Subject: Re: What are the best fantasy books involving dragons?
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:16:46 GMT

(Mark Smith) writes:
>(Chris Galas) writes:
>> (William Kuan) writes:
>>>
>>>       Any recommendations on fantasy books involving dragons?
>> 
>Try Dragonsbane by Barbra Hambly.


How about the short story collections, Dragons of Light, and Dragons of 
Darkness?



From: Alan.Moorman@f31.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Alan Moorman)
Sender: FredGate@tdkt.kksys.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Yet Another Misleading C
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:54:00 -0600

Subj: Yet Another Misleading Co      Conf: (31) Rec.Arts.S

CK> One of the hazards of publishing SF is the 5x8 manila envelope that arrives
CK> couple of months before the book is out: it contains the
CK> cover, front and back,
CK> with artwork and blurbs. My heart always sinks when I see this envelope,
CK> because I know that whatever it contains is what I'll have to live with, an
CK> what will sell or sabotage the book itself.

Maybe you can hazard a guess (or actually Know A Fact) about why so many
covers are done by people who are actually inept at rendering people
(other things)?  If you go scan the covers at a good sized s-f book
rack, it is just true!  And I'm not speaking of artistic license --
just awkward looking art!

As to my reader-type reactions, on rare occasion, I do buy a book
largely on the basis of the way someone looks on the cover.  (And am
usually disappointed in that character when I read the bood.)  But,
usually I buy a book *in* *spite* of its cover! Isn't that a shame!

 * OLX 2.1 TD * Mental Floss prevents Moral Decay.

 * Origin: Dark Knight's Table (1:282/31)
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From: baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Subject: Re: Yet Another Misleading Cover
Reply-To: baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 16:48:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.204122.10965@u.washington.edu>, rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.190019.8255@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> baylor@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>> The one that infuriated me was STARDANCERS, where in chapter 1 or 2
>>it is established that Shara Drummond was exceedingly buxom, but the 
>>lady on the cover is very slim.
>
>I don't know which Stardancer cover you are annoyed at (I've seen three I 
>believe) but remember that Shara was buxom *for a dancer*  That's very different
>from discribing a normal woman as buxom.  The covers I've seen all make her
>look like she could bear children without a c-section, and with a B to C cup;
>That is bigger than most dancers.  Remember, the ideal is like those 15 year old
>gymnists.  He mentions that in that future, the figure requirements have become
>*more* rigorous.
>
>Sandy
>Not tonight dear, I'm reading......
>
Ok, maybe you're right. I must have been figuring by Jake (the narrator
of the Callahan's stories) 's idea of buxom. 

RB
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From: rsholmes@rodan.syr.EDU (Rich Holmes)
Subject: Re: >>>>SEX<<<< and Tolkien
In-reply-to: kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu's message of Sat, 15 Aug 1992 02:55:23 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
	<1992Aug7.163218.18158@csi.on.ca> <15129@suns6.crosfield.co.uk>
	<1992Aug14.130918.3469@desire.wright.edu> <5vay_sd@rpi.edu>
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 18:49:03 EDT

In article <5vay_sd@rpi.edu> kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes:

>In article <1992Aug14.130918.3469@desire.wright.edu>, demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man) writes:
>|> In article <15129@suns6.crosfield.co.uk>, jc@crosfield.co.uk (jerry cullingford) writes:
>|>> 
>|>> (3) Sex isn't particularly essential to the plot.. Tolkein's stuff is good
>|>> enough to sell without it..
>|> 
>|> 	3) is the best reason.  Tolkien wanted to create a mythological type of
>|> realm.  When was the last time you read something like: "Thor took the mortal
>|> woman in his arms and pumped her full of molten lava..."
>
> You must have been reading the watered-down versions of mythology. (-: Just
>about every mythology I can think of - Egyptian, European, Indian, Oriental - 
>features sex very prominently. And look at the Old Testament, for that matter.
>The only mythologies I can think of which are relatively devoid of sex are the
>Christian and Muslim ones. 

Last time I looked, admittedly a while ago :-), the Old Testament was
a part of both the Christian and Muslim mythologies.

As for Tolkien, how much sex was there in *anything* being published
by mainstream publishers in the 1940s and 1950s? He & his publisher
were products of their time. Even so, there's at least one rape and
one case of incest in _The Silmarillion_ and/or _Unfinished Tales_.

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From: qvortrup@inf.ethz.ch (Michael Qvortrup)
Subject: Re: Go to alt.fan...we don't want you(was Re: rec.arts.sf.written FAQ)
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 06:41:25 GMT

In article <1b87eee7.ARN23b6@prolix.pub.uu.oz.au> munnari!labtam!eyrie!prolix!dac writes:
>[...]
>What Aaron stated is mostly true - formula authors are generally
>dismissed.

It is true that they are often dismissed by a large part of the
r.a.sf.written readership - who then in the process come across
as a bunch of arrogant so-and-so's.

Not because they dismiss the author and his works, but because
of the way they do it.

Screaming "David Eddings - you read that crock of shit?!?! Bvahaha!"
shows an astonishing degree of insensitivity for supposedly intelligent
persons and an as remarkable degree of eliticism. It is also denigrating
and arrogant.

Those posts (and posters) can as far as I am concerned go and bury 
themselves in alt.rant.and.rave.

On the other hand (covering my own tail :-)) there are very interesting
(at least the first time - old hands may skip the bimonthly repetition)
discussions of *why* these works are formulaic, or perhaps not considered
prime material for the next Nobel prize in literature.. This may be elitist,
but I believe and hope that it isn't seen as that arrogant and 
insensitive as the first type is.

All in all, I find the hint in the FAQ that discussing certain authors
may lead to flamewars together with the pointer to other news groups
the best solution.

>There are no absolutes - of course. Just guidelines.

Exactly. And there must be room for all people.

>Have a thoughful day.

I'll think about it :-)

Greetings,
--Mike

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From: jtisdel@digi.lonestar.org (J. Michael Tisdel)
Subject: Re: Recommendation on Fantasy Epic Novels
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:57:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.143115.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> ciar04@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
[...]
>
>Any suggestions from anyome?
>
Here's a few suggestions for the 'fantastic literature'.  Some might not be
what you're expecting...

Classical Literature:

	Edmund Spencer, _The Faire Queen_
	Thomas Mallory, _La Morte de Arthur_
	Homer, _The Illiad_ & _The Odyssey_
	Virgil, _The Aneid_
	Ovid, _The Metamorphosis_
	?, _The Song of Roland_
	?, _El Cid_
	?, _Beowulf_
	?, _The Nibelunglied_
	?, _The Prose Edda_ and _The Poetic Edda_
	?, _The Mahabratta_
	?, _The Epic of Gilgamesh_

Assorted Mythos:
	Egyptian
	Sumerian
	Bablyonian
	Greek
	Roman
	Norse
	Indian
	Myan
	Toltec (?)

Theatre:

	Wagner, Der Ring des Nibelungen
	  1. Das Rheingold
	  2. Der Walkure
	  3. Sigfried
	  4. Gotterdammerung
	Mozart, The Magic Flute
	Gilbert & Sullivan, _Iolanthe_
	Wm Shakespeare, _The Tempest_

Modern Literature:

	Tolkein, _The Lord of the Rings_, _The Hobbit_, & _The Silmarillion_
	Terry Brooks, _The Sword of Shanara_ and series
	Mary Stewart, _The Crystal Caves_, _The Holow Hills_, and series
	Steven Donaldson, _Lord Foul's Bane_, _The Illearth War_, _The Power
                          That Preserves_, _The One Tree_, _The Wounded Land_,
                          _White Gold Weilder_, _A Man Rides Through_,
			  _Mordant's Need_

Oh, well.  There are *plenty* of choices.
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From: u9161910@cs.uow.edu.au (Gareth William Omeara)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Author Polls -- Gordon R. Dickson
Date: 21 Aug 92 03:40:23 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

Sorry about posting my votes.I meant to mail them.

Gareth.
u9161910@wraith.cs.uow.edu.au