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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:33:37 CST
From:         crispen <crispen@EIGHT-BALL.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: A cappella, A cappella, A cappella, A cappella, A cappella

Marsha (the queen of the night) sez:

>Thanks for the extensive review! Glad you liked it! I'll let you know when
>a cappella 3 comes out!

Tell me, too, please!

And, on another topic:

Gary, the one who has offered to spread his buttocks while everyone
else on the net prepares large, sharp objects -- calm down, Libby,
this is the kind of thing that gets *me* excited -- could you please
reconsider your no-noise-reduction edict?

I think all of us have got Dolby B -- it's the default Dolby noise
reduction, even on cheap car stereos and maybe even some boom
boxes.  Without noise reduction, a tape sounds so bad that I
find it unlistenable.  In fact, since decades of rock'n'roll have
done what they customarily do to my hearing, I would suspect that
you younger people with more golden ears would find it worse.

Now, personally, I'm going to send a CD, but I'm worried that
the final tape will come out without noise reduction, which
sounds to me like wasted effort.  Why produce something that
sounds bad when, with the push of a button, you can produce
something that sounds pretty good?

Am I the only one who has this problem with sonic quality?  If so,
just note this as a foible and pass it by.  If others out there
share my problem, please speak up!

Bob
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:07:53 CST
From:         Little Inquisitor <U31447@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Another reference

Also from Oxford U. Press:

                          Michael Kater. _Different Drummers: Jazz in the Cultu
re of Nazi Germany_ (1992, isbn, 505009-6, $ 19.96 until march 31).

                                             Renato
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I would say R & R is pumped up enhanced (good or bad your choice) Blues, which
got some from Gospel. The white audience from years ago was slim compared
to today, but i would rather have a small supportive audience than a large grup
of people who think going to a blooze show is "the-in-thang-to-do" which happen
here alot. It's great to see them jump around and dance, but the next day they
don't even know who they saw....Wait a minute why in the hell am I answering
something about race, hey we're not several races, we're one nation, we're
all together here............L.W.
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:46:20 -0500
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Take this job and shove it

>I have just resigned my day job. (I was being heavily encouraged to do so,
>and I'd rather jump than be pushed.)

Congratulations.  Wish I could say the same.

>Actually, right now I feel like computers are utterly loathsome, and I would
>like to not have anything to do with them for a while! Of course, it really
>has nothing to do with the computers, but the swine who manage them...

Ahem.  Or should I say Oink?  Sorry you got tangled with pork managers,
but we're not all bad (If you're in Durham and want net access, come see
me).

Hope you can stay on the list, Mike, it won't be same without you.  Then
again, it wasn't the same with you.

Let us know before you go, so we can flood your mailbox with garbage.....

Russ
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:59:40 EST
From:         Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Greetings
              27 Jan 1993 10:42:06 -0700 from <6153@EF.GC.MARICOPA.EDU>

We have in San Jose, CA a radio station called "Live 105: Always on
the Cutting Edge--KITS".  We also have several college stations
that claim to be "on the edge" like KSJS, KSCU, etc.
We also have a dance club called "The Edge".  Most of these
radio stations are okay, except KITS, which has become a weeny station.
The dance place is not the greatest place either.  There are other clubs
in the area that are far superior to "The Edge".

Mike.

P.S.:  Welcome to ALLMUSIC!
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From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: Re: an old song
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:40:27 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%93012019212327@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET (Mike) writes:
>Some people here in the office were wondering:
>
>who wrote the song "How Dry I Am"?
>


Not sure, but I think it might have been Jessica Tandy.


>and why do drunk cartoon figures sing this, when the
>"dry" in the song means to be sober?  Irony?  Woo....
>

A true lyrical oddysey.


>
>Mike.

                                      R ****
                                       I
                                        C
                                    **** K

********************************************************************************                      You know some people got no choice
                      they can't even find a voice
                      to talk with - that they can call their own
                      So the first thing that they see
                      that allows them the right to be
                      why they follow it, you know what that's called -
                      Bad Luck
                                        Street Hassle by Lou Reed
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:26:53 CST
From:         Paul Heroy <HEROY@LSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      the The

On Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:35:55 MST cinnamon girl said:
>OMC:  I heard a song the other day called "Dogs of Lust" by The The. It got my
>musical juices flowing and I'd like to know more about this group.  Anyone?

Not much, though I've heard that song and it definitely humps :-) the The (I
think that's how they like to be called) are Johnny Marr's (ex-Smith) group.
They had an album called Mind Bomb which is supposedly excellent. I think the
latest is their fourth.

Paul
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              out - you'll not feel the fall-out..." <OLIVOTTO@ITNCISCA.BITNET>
Subject:      Jaco on Joni's albums

>Date: 07 Jan 1993 13:07:39 -0800 (PST)
>From: Mike <MASUDA@SJSUVM1.BITNET>
>Subject: RE: Cadence and cascade
>
>Which CD of Joni Mitchell do you recommend for the best
>Jaco performances?

        People may not agree with me, but I'd suggest _Hejira_, released --
I believe -- in 1976. Pastorius on "Coyote" and "Hejira" is outstanding.
And so is Larry Carlton on slide guitar in "Amelia". One of my fave albums.

        Ciao, Marco "traveling in some vehicle, sitting in some cafe'"

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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:36:57 EST
From:         Mike Karolchik <MIKE@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      "mailbox full" problem: Update

Hoping to expedite the solution of this problem, I've temporarily
made ALLMUSIC an EDITed list. Please don't anybody start freaking
out and calling me a censor or something! I'm simply going to delete
all of the problem mail (mailbox full) and forward all other mail
back to the list. Presumably this problem will end when all mail
en route to the spaceless user arrives and is bounced back. Once
things are back to normal I'll turn off editing.

Sorry for the inconvenience to all of you. Hope I can get this
resolved quickly.

-Mike t.l.g.
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On Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:31:03 GMT Hendrik Jan Veenstra said:

>O, and another funny example crosses my mind. I've always loved "Golden Brown"
>from the Stranglers -- a plain 3/4 with an occasional 4/4 mixed in, which
>"throws you off your feet" somehow.  I always thought they deserved to have
>a hit with this song, not just because (as opposed to nearly all other 'pop')
>they use a strange (and basically non-commercial) time-division, but also
>because the song is centered around vocals and harpsichord (which isn't too
>commercial either IMO :).

Oh, I dunno, Leonhart & Harnoncourt seem to do ok with it (-:

Actually, it is just this mixing of time that catches me the most about
early music, where nothing is all that regular any more once you get to the
Renaissance; even dance music has usually got a switch from duple to triple
or vice versa somewheres along the way.  You build a lot of energy into the
music when you do this sort of thing. . . .
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:00:59 PST
From:         Mike McGuire <MIKEM@OAK.HIS.UCSF.EDU>
Subject:      Ricgard Thompson

Thank you Michael and Carol for the quick response.  It seems to me that
between the 2 of you Bright Lights might be a good place for me to start.
I am going to try and pick it up today.  I am also going to get The Sundays
latest.  I really like there first and I have heard only a little of the
recent and have liked what I did hear.
Mike
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>Accordiung to me, there is no such thing as "Alternative" music anymore si
>nce
>"alternative" music is pretty mainstream today.
>        I listen to such bands as the Butthole Surfers, Nomeansno, Negativ
>land,
>Sucking
> Chest Wound, Psychic TV, etc... but I would hesitate calling them
>"alternative" because by today's definition, they aren't.

>For real alternative music, listen to something from the real "Alternative
>"
>label, Alternative Tentacles.


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>Speaking of Alternative Tentacles, would anyone have any information on
>what Jello Biafra's next project will be, or maybe when his next spoken
>word album is to be released? I used to receive stuff from them while I
>was on the staff of the campus newspaper, but I don't have their
>catalogues and such an ymore. The last thing I got was Klaus Fluoride's
>last album....
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I do agree with you that most "alternative" music is pretty mainstream
today.  With the success of Nirvana, Helmet, and all the other so called
"alternative" bands making it big on mtv and the like.  Though I do
disagree with you about hesitating to call NoMeansNo an "alternative" band.
As much as I hate to use that word, and as much as that word has been
exploited, and invalidated they still are an alternative band.  By
alternative I mean they don't just adhere to one type of music.  They are
constently catching you off guard, and though I like some of thier punkier
music better they still play a good mix.
If you want to get some truly "alternative" music check out bands like
Pinhead Gunpowder, J Church, Green Day, and countless other punk and
hardcore bands that are on independent labels or put thier music out
themselves.  Afterall DIY (doing it yourself) is the most "alternative" thing
you can do to avoid the mainstream.

Love to all,
Ben
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:55:00 EST
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Subject:      Carol's Can

>From:         cinnamon girl <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>

>OMC:  I wanna get a Can CD... which of these would you people suggest?
>  cannibalism
>  delay 1968
>  future days
>  monster movie
>  tago mago

_Cannibalism_ is a compilation so that may be the best starter disc.
My personal favorite is _Monster Movie_, their first album.  _Delay 1968_
is from the same concert as _Monster Movie_, but it does seem like they
put the best stuff on the first release.  _Tago Mago_ is good early Can,
and since it was a double LP, the CD has a nice time/cost ratio.
_Future Days_ is good, but later and smoother.  But _Monster Movie_ has
this lovely version of "Mary Mary"...not thee Mike Nesmith song, the
nursery rhyme.  They make it sound like a lament...a real guitar
torture session.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:17:09 -0700
From:         Terrence Michael Drozdowski <6153@EF.GC.MARICOPA.EDU>
Subject: Re: Greetings

I actually like KITS when I was in San Jose visiting, Live 105 was the
first station on  which I ever heard any techno (radio market in Phoenix
was week, till the dawn of the Edge...) and the first station I can
remember that played erasure's "Supernature," so it drew my interest there...
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:52:41 -0500
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: MORE 'Alternative'

>ZZAJ INTERJECTION:  "NEW Thread":  'nother "chicken-or-the-egg" thingie...

>                                   How many couch potatoes would we HAVE
>                                   if it weren't for the whole education
>                                   system (& of course, I'm mostly
>                                   referring to piano teachers) saying
>                                   "...but, that's the WRONG note..."

Last night band practice, the bass player was trying out some new licks
(er, easy Libby, that's *riffs*).  At one point he hit what had to be
the abolute *worst* note I've ever heard!  Awful, badly intonated,
completely out of place, out of time, just plain *bonk*.  But, it was
so bad, that it had a sort of charm, it was actually pleasant against
the popish tune we were doing (a Beatles tune).  Alas, he couldn't
produce it again (I'm not sure we want him to anyway).  But we did get
it on tape.

I think it opened our ears to just how tight and conventional our playing
had become.  We were definitely loosened by that bonk.

I contribute much of my lack of singing ability to the fact that I was
told that "you can't really sing, why don't you play this percussion thingy"
in grammar school.  So I didn't sing *at all* for some 20 years.  Bastards.

Russ
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Hi all:

Back on board after a brief hiatus -- and I'm sure that after reading this,
many of you might feel that it wasn't brief *enough*. :-)

Since I bypassed any inaugural-ball bashing, critiquing, celebrating, I don't
know if this has already been touched on. But I'm touching now ... and you
don't know where. ;-)

Whilst cleaning my house on Saturday, I camest across a rebroadcast of MTV's
Inaugural Ball. ("A rebroadcast on MTV?" you say. "How unnatural!" But yes, my
friends, it happens sometimes.) ANYWAY: The *only* thing to catch my attention
and make me turn off my Hoover was the impromptu Automatic Baby performance.
Michael Stipe and Mike Mills of R.E.M. and Adam "My Hair Keeps Getting Worse"
Clayton and Larry Mullen, Jr., of U2 doing an acoustic version of "One."

I liked it. *A lot.* And this is coming from someone who likes to bitch about
both bands whenever the opportunity presents itself. ;-)

Anybody else see it? Anybody else like it?

Heather
[who wanted *desperately* to catch Ruben Blades' performance on the HBO Ball.
Did anybody see *that*?]
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:17:43 EST
From:         Ken Koester <MAINT2@ERS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: poseurs

On Mon, 18 Jan 1993 11:45:00 EST <MCINTYRE@MSUPA> said:
>
>Real hard to pin-point the beginning.  Didn't Handel write a piece where
>the stage lighting was a candelabrum by each musician and at the end of
>the piece, the instruments would fall silent one by one with each musician
>leaving the stage and taking his candelabrum with him so that the piece
>ended in total darkness?
>
>John McIntyre

Oh, you can go further back than that, I think.  Wouldn't a Stuart masque
have shown even more stage presence, don't you think?  Just to point out
one relatively documented stream, I mean.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:33:21 EST
From:         WK7@CORNELLC.BITNET
Subject:      I'm in Heaven/ my man John Lee

Hey folx - I've just been given access to a gopher FTP lyric server
thru my Mac at Cornell. Sooooo I can now pull up any song title by author
(and it's not always last name) and I can look at it & print it!
Wheeeeeeeee!!!!!! I'm not getting any work done tonight anyway, 'cause the
mainframe is packed to the gills, and I'm leavin' at 8:30 anyway to go
dance to The Horseflies.

I just caught a piece of a new John Lee Hooker song off his new album -
it's called "Bottle Up and Go"

     "Mama bought a chicken
      Thought it was a duck
      Put it on the table
      With its legs sticking up.

      You got to bottle up and go,
      You got to bottle up and go
      You all-fired women, sure
      Gotta bottle up and go, bop bop bop bop"


             ('to me this is pure poetry') :) ;)  ...walt...
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on the other hand, "alternative" has also come to mean that collection of
college rock characterized by whatever it is that the college music journal
and 120 minutes has decided to be deemed "alternative" for that month.

once upon a time, i would scream, "how do you define that?!?" in faces of
all who say they listen to alternative music. now though, i nod blindly,
understand what they are talking about and continue to let them suffer
in their delusions.

it's just another label. misapplied, perhaps, but a label nonetheless. on
the average, everyone knows what people mean by it, so why argue whether
or not it really means something?

woj
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sign off allmusic Sharon Gratto
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:33:08 -0500
From:         Russ Gelinas <R_GELINAS@UNHH.UNH.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Oh Calcutta

>But then again I suppose most community theatre groups wouldn't even consider
>staging it (Oh Calcutta) anymore.

Well, I heard about it on *New Hampshire* public radio, as some NH community
theater group *is* staging it.  Who says we're all redneck hicks?  Of course,
we're only some 20 or so years late, ayuh.

Russ
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:40:38 EST
From:         Ilia <CC29@IONA.BITNET>
Subject:      A cappella, A cappella, A cappella, A cappella, A cappella

Bob Tee said:

> Eli's Coming - The Nylons : No structure to this one. Where are they going?
>                             Even a wee bit pretentious at the end...
>

well, that's probably the only one on which I really disagree with you -
I thought it was the best Nylons' performance on those legendary tapes.
They might have been pretentious there, but it was quite interesting
nevertheless. Well, I generally preferred professional bands over
college ones, The Bobs being my favorite, of course (and Marsha, could
you post the entire lyrics of "Banana Love", including all the
exclamations? :))
        Ilia.
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