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From: mk009b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ([Matt Kaufman])
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: this and that.
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:03:29 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <BxMs3B.CID@acsu.buffalo.edu> v124jw4y@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce) writes:

>In article <14471@lupine.ncd.com>, slucas@grant.ncd.com (Steve Lucas) writes...
>>In article <Bx7D5s.8w@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v124jw4y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce) writes:


>>|> Eaton and Lane were the only Midnight Express.  Period.  I refuse to believe in
>>|> any other team with the same name.  They don't exist.
>>|> 
>>|> 
>>|>                                                    --Ben (in a state of denial)
>> 
>> 
>>	Sorry Ben, as it is today, there has been five versions of the MX.  The Lane/Eaton was just the most pushed.  about the same time as Lane & Eaton, Conrey had teamed in the UWF with some one who's name I forget, as the MX.  
>> 



>(Vigorously plugging ears)  What was that?  I can't seem to hear you...did you
>say something about the Midnight Express, Eaton and Lane?  Sounded like you
>might have mentioned some other names, but that couldn't have been right, 
>since we all know that there was only one Midnight Express...I must have heard
>you wrong...:)


Wait maybe there was only one version, of the MX.  But then who are Dennis
Condrey, Randy Rose, and Jack Victory, and what were they doing with James
E. Cornette.







>                                         --Ben
>                                           (_Still_ denying that there was
>                                            more than one Midnight Express...)






Matt the Killer.
Trying to figure out what's going on
in the world today.
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From: jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell)
Subject: Re: Lotsa news
Keywords: WCW WWF news
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:46:22 GMT

In article <ynhYr*TV0@Birdland.UUCP> uunet!tension!birdland!andy writes:
#* Eric Embray was badly injured in a car accident last week. Count him out
#  of the GWF for some time.

Not sure if that's good news or bad news for the GWF. I've never been
impressed with Embry.

#
#* Arn Anderson and Bobby Eaton have decided to resign with WCW for 
#  significantly lower pay.

Are you saying that Anderson and Eaton resigned because they were 
not getting payed enough. Or are you saying that Anderson and Eaton
are staying with WCW, but are workingn for less money.

Either way, I think Watts is making a big mistake. Watts is an idiot.

#
#* Da Mountie walked out on the WWF last week. He was scheduled in a match
#  against Jeff Jarrett. Rick Martel took his place. This may explain why
#  Martel is being programmed against Backlund.

Also, consider that Martel ranks right up there with Skinner, Virgil,
and Tito as jobbers to the stars. They need to build Backlund's 
reputation by pairing him with an established jobber to the stars 
that can acutally wrestle.

#
#* After January, Savage and Big Bossman will be taking 3 months off to
#  heal some nagging injuries. 

Like a broken marriage?


-- 
Cal...                        "Mountain Dew and doughnuts:
                               because breakfast is the most
jewell@Data-IO.COM             important meal of the day."
From: Andy@Birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Lotsa news
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 22:56:50 EST
Reply-To: uunet!tension!birdland!andy
Keywords: WCW WWF news
Summary: Whole lotta shakin going on...
Expires: never
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* Eric Embray was badly injured in a car accident last week. Count him out
  of the GWF for some time.

* Apparently Van Vader did hurt that jobber whose back he supposedly broke.
  The guy was paralyzed for a short time.

* Arn Anderson and Bobby Eaton have decided to resign with WCW for 
  significantly lower pay.

* Da Mountie walked out on the WWF last week. He was scheduled in a match
  against Jeff Jarrett. Rick Martel took his place. This may explain why
  Martel is being programmed against Backlund.

* After January, Savage and Big Bossman will be taking 3 months off to
  heal some nagging injuries. 

* John Tenta has had it with travelling and wants out. He should be gone by
  January. Hence, he did the job in dropping the belts.

* Kamala will do a face turn by February. Betcha ten bucks he teams with UT.

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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Re: Steiner Status...(?)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:06:51 GMT

In article <1d6v51INNcbu@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> kipilman@cats.ucsc.edu (Lou Kipilma
n) writes:
>
>
>I did actually call, and after the perfunctory HH recap for the marks, there
>were interesting remarks Jim made.
>
>    - WRT Steiners, it mainly dealt with a deep thigh bruise that Scott
>      suffered as a result of a weightlifting mishap during behind-the-
>      neck presses. Time of return for both brothers unknown. Nothing
>      mentioned about contract negotiations, or lack thereof.
Of course he wasn't likely too either. Why say this before you have to.

>    - Ross says WCW is currently in negotiations with Jim Cornette and
>      Smoky Mountain Wrestling to bring Jim & Heavenly Bodies into WCW
>      and/or send WCW wrestlers to SMW - I assume a la the WWF/USWA
>      arrangement.

I was going to post yesterday that this was unlikely given what Cornette said 
in the latest Torch talk. But now I have even more evidence that Ross was full 
of it. In the latest Torch that I got yesterday Keller reports that Cornette 
told the Torch on Sunday night that Ross should not have made those comments. 
Cornette said:

"I got a dozen calls Saturday from people, some of them wrestlers , wanting to
know if I gave up and was going back to WCW. Watts and I had a friendly talk
about the possibille doing something down the line. I told Ross if I did
anything, I wanted it to be a well-planned surprise. After Ross's comments,
it'll be a cold day in a hot place before I ever work for that promotion."


                                                David Kempster
                                                Fx
From: jmwojtal@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Wojo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Yokozuna
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:27:23 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

In article <Bx80I9.4FE@ulowell.ulowell.edu> hsano@cs.ulowell.edu (Hitoshi Sano) writes:

>I'm pretty sure that Kokina Maximus is not a true Yokozuna and I'm getting a
>strong impression from some Japanese Sumo advocates that they are really
>really really upset about this.  Just wait until they get the tape.

Believe it or not, It may be a way for the U.S. to get even for American
bashing.  The American sumo wrestler that was close to become a Yokozuna, 
thought he should have become one by now, but the Japanese refused to give it
to him because he's American.  The guy was very dominant in the ranks too.
Too bad he lost a couple of matches recently, he could have forced them to
give it to him.






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From: Steve_Hooper@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Hooper)
Subject: Cancellations
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:17:49 GMT


If anyone knows of cancellations of any WWF house shows coming up in the near
future, could they please let me know as soon as possible?  In other words,
if you just found out the show in your town has been cancelled, please E-mail
me ASAP.

Also, if any have already been cancelled (ie all those ones last month),
could you let me know as well.  I need to know which towns were cancelled in
the last month or so, plus any cancellations that are happening as we speak.

Much appreciated,

                - Steve

a777@mindlink.bc.ca


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From: macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika)
Subject: Re: Steiner Status...(?)
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:03:38 GMT

In article <3726.137.uupcb@ssr.com> dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer)  writes:
>
>All I have heard is that after Scott's fight with Watts, where he
>allegedly threatened to kick Watts' pompous rear end, the Steiners will
>be gone from WCW when their contract expires next month.  They are most
>likely going to the WWF, but New Japan has a decent shot also.

Personally, I hope the go to New Japan (that thought ahs crossed my mind
also...).  I think their workrate and "selling" would improve...

-- 
Dominic Macika

"All movements go too far"
			-Bertrand Russell (1872-1970)
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Rumors and Facts
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:36:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: HMS

* Word out of Stamford,Conn has Vince McMahon in serious negotiations with
his own personal savior Hulk Hogan,regarding a quick return. Hogan probably
won't be back until 1993.


* Matt "Big Josh" Borne has joined WWF as good guy "Doink The Clown".He'll
supposedly appear at SS on November 25th and will take on Gobbledey Gooker
in a Stuffing and Giblet Match. Also, Damien Demento formerly known as
Mondo Kleen has made his way into the WWF.

* Andre the Giant and his bad knees are scheduled to wrestle later this
month in Japan.

*Animal(cracked tailbone) will be out of action for a while,perhaps 
signalling the end of Legion of Doom in the WWF.

*"Saturday Night Main Event" scheduled for FOX this Saturday(11/14) at 9pm
has ex-Rocker Shawn Michaels capturing IC from British Bulldog. The card
was taped last week in Terre Haute,Indiana. Michaels goes up against 
HitMan Hart for the WWF HeavyWeight Title in SS.

* ALthough aching, Ric Flair(inner ear) and UnderTaker(shoulder seperation)
should both be able to keep their dates in SS.

*This past weekend's weak WWF card at the Boston Garden drew only 4,000 fans.
 Here are the results :

Max Moon def. Terry Taylor
Lance Cassidy def. Skinner
Crush def. Berzerker
Razor Ramon def. Randy Savage
Money Inc def. Natural Disasters
British Bulldog def. Papa Shango
Nailz def. Big Bossman

-PPV Mark
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From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: Re: [WCW] Clash of Champions
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling (wres)
Posted-Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 13: 14:51 CST
Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25]
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Rob C writes:

>    Here's the lineup for the Nov. 18 Clash of Champions as announced on the
>    WCW Main Event:

8:00 pm Eastern; 7:00 Central, I believe

>        - Brad Armstrong v. Brian Pillman

Probably the highest potential for a decent match, but no doubt ending
with Brian jobbing for Brad.

>        - "Ghetto Odds Match" {2 versus 3}
>          Ron Simmons & Robbie Walker v. Barbarian & Tony Atlas & Cactus Jack

Face underdogs generally win "2 on 3" matches.   Surprised  they didn't try
to confuse the fans even further by making it a "two out  of three  2 on 3"
match.  :-)

>        - Erik Watts & Kunsuke Sasaki v. Arn Anderson & Bobby Eaton

Oh Gawd!  AA & BB jobbing for Erik and KS.  If Sasaki's workrate  is as bad
as his last two US matches this will be absolutely pitiful.

>        - Semifinal King of Cable Tournament
>          Sting v. Rick Rude

Watts might have Sting job here (1) so faces  don't take  the whole night's
worth of matches, and (2) if he is still trying to get Sting to  take a pay
cut.

>        - 3 rounds of Boxing
>          Johnny B. Badd v. Scotty Flamingo

Do promoters *really* think we  like these  "non-wrestling" gimmick matches
(boxing, arm-wrestling, etc.)?

The only question is if Badd will wait for round three to  knock Scotty out
or do it in the first few seconds of round one.  :-)

>        - World Tag Team Titles
>          Dustin Rhodes & Barry Windham v. Ricky Steamboat & Shane Douglas

Faces will win.  <grin>

>        - "Clash of the Sexes"
>          Paul E. Dangerously v. Madusa

Anyone expect a *different* script than the Madusa/Dangerously
arm-wrestling match from a Clash a couple years back?  Maybe  they can even
bring Dusty back to the announcer's table  to make  off-color remarks about
Madusa ("twin peaks", etc.)

>        also the drawing for the first tag match at Starrcade.

This must be the highlight of the night.  :-)

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From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: News from the Ottawa Citizen
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 23:43:14 GMT

The monthly Citizen wrestling column once again provides jewels of
information....mostly about Bret Hart.

* Bret Hart came out in favor of a NO vote in the recent Canadian
constitutional referendum campaign. 

* Bret Hart wrote his comments in his weekly column in the Calgary Sun
(Does he really have a column there? Anyone from Alberta confirm
this?)

* Bret Hart is the first Canadian WWF champion (something I posted,
and then was corrected on.)

* Bret Hart went to Mount Royal College to become a film director but
entered wrestling when he ran short of money. He started in 1980 when
a wrestler failed to show at his dad's show, and he stepped in the
ring. Citizen wrestling writer Alana Kainz says that Hart was working
as a referee at the time because he was too shy to wrestle.

* According to Kainz, Stu Hart has been acting as Bret's manager for
some recent matches.

* She pegs his salary at at least $200,000 a year. (This seems a bit
low to me.)

In other news:

* Another report of Ric Flair's inner-ear problem

* WWF spokesman Steve Planamenta says if you want to be a wrestler,
stay in school, then go to a wrestling school like The Monster
Factory.

That's about it.

Michael


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From: Otto Heuer #3 <ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com>
Subject: [WCW] Power Hour
To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Posted-Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 19: 32:36 -0600
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:32:36 GMT
Received-Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 19: 31:58 CST


Kewl... Missy read a letter she got from some chick in Golden Valley,
Minnesota.  That's only a few blocks south of me.  I was thinking
of checking the phone book to see if it was a real person.  :-)

		--Otto "Cactus Hack" Heuer

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From: jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell)
Subject: Re: Chrispy WVR : Clash of the Champions VII - Guts and Glory
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:45:43 GMT

In article <1689C741D.MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU> MJFORRES@SUVM.SYR.EDU (maurice) writes:
#In article <83327@ut-emx.uucp>
#chrispy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christopher Palacios) writes:
# 
#>Overall, a tame Clash.  Nice to see once just to say you've seen it.
#>
#>Overall grade: C  (**)
# 
#I think Chris is grading this Clash too low.  One of the things that
#he doesn't mention and that made this Clash one of my favorites was
#that the heat was incredible -- both literally and figuratively.
#Clash 7 was held at an army base and the place was filled with GIs

Fort Bragg, NC to be exact.

#who really got into the action.  As well, it was *hot*.  By the end
#of the night, Jim Ross and Bob Caudle looked like they were ready
#to pass out.

Hot? Hell, it must have been an oven in there. I recall that the
Clash took place in June, which is right in the middle of humidity 
season in North Carolina. By the end of the night, the arena was 
so humid and hot that you could barely see from their camera 
positions to the other side of the arena. It looked like TBS was
shooting the Clash through a cheesecloth-covered lens, givng their
wrestlers that warm, soft, slightly out of focus look. :-)

I don't think I've ever seen more heat (literally and figuratively) 
from a crowd since.

IMHO, the best thing was that all the crowd reaction was genuine: 
no canned cheers, chants, or boos.

# 
#Chris also failed to mention one of my favorite moments when someone
#jumped into the ring as the Midnight Express were being introduced.
#Bobby Eaton and Stan Lane pushed the guy out to the MPs and Jim
#Cornette said, "We're going to do you a favor.  We're going to let
#you sleep it off."

Vintage Cornette.

# 
#Despite the problems -- the Ding-Dongs, Norman, the endless Army
#promos -- I rate this Clash a solid B.

Don't forget Ranger Ross reliving his Army training with the troops
on Fort Bragg's "confidence course". 

Overall, I'd also give Clash VII a solid B. Maybe even a B+. 

-- 
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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: Re: USWA/LAWLER
Keywords: Lawler Champion USWA
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:05:26 GMT


Keep
In article <78dYr*zV0@Birdland.UUCP> uunet!tension!birdland!andy writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.191326.4007@memstvx1.memst.edu>, beninsd@memstvx1.memst.e
du writes:
>
>> Jerry Lawler is the new USWA champion he beat Todd Champion
>> for the belt--he will face him again next Monday with a speical referee from
>> the WWF!! Lawler's line: "Todd is so stupid that before coming to
>> the studio he went to the zoo to see the easter seals."
>
>Todd Champion? You mean one half of the Patriots?

The same. He is a heel in the USWA and they claim that he won the belt in 
cleveland from the junkfood dog. The match never occured.

                                          David Kempster
                                          Fx

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From: macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika)
Subject: Re: Chono vs. Rude
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 15:44:28 GMT

In article <BxAsAJ.5A8@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze) writes:
>
>  The one guy in All Japan who seems to rarely job and doesn't deserve
>  that honour is Akira Taue, right Dominic?  
>

Gads, please don't get me started.  :)

-- 
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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: CoC
Keywords: main event?
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:31:49 GMT

  I saw the listing for the Clash matches, which one is the main event?

  Please don't close the show with Paul E vs Madusa.  It's a change as a
match, but defintely not a main event.  

  Simmons & Walker vs Cactus Jack, Barbarian, & Tony Atlas in a Ghetto odds
match.  Wonder if any PC protester's will write Ted.
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From: asspr@acad3.alaska.edu (Sean P. Ryan)
Subject: Re: To Job or Not to Job (WAS Re: Chono vs. Rude)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Organization: Fnordbox Escape Committee
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:47:00 GMT

In article <Bx9Hy0.E1F@askinc.ask.COM>, robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen) writes...
> 
>Well, Dom,.you sure got the "Tsuruta not jobbing" part right!  Alas,
>I think I remember Choshu jobbing for Tsuruta often for a while in AJPW.

Hmmm.  I can't think of one single instance of Choshu jobbing while
with All Japan, and I followed Japanese wrestling a lot more closely
back then than I do today.  In fact, I believe it was Choshu's
reluctance to job even once for Tsuruta that created much of the
friction which led to Choshu's return to New Japan.

>Hansen still jobs for Tsuruta, Misawa, and would probably 
>even fall down after one of Baba's weak maneuvers (read:lovetaps).

I would think that virtually anyone nowadays who was matched up with
Baba or Inoki would job for them if asked, as stupid as it may sound
on the surface.

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From: cadesjar@lagrange.uwaterloo.ca (Curtis Desjardins)
Subject: Re: WWF: Beefing Up for a better Royale Rumble?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:41:46 GMT

In article <92311.113136IO10370@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO10370@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (The person of tomorrow *TRW*) writes:
>
>Also, anyone else hear of a Curt Henning turn at S.S. for a grudge
>match with Flair at the Royale Rumble?

It won't happen in this lifetime, at least, not if Curt wants to
keep his insurance money.

Face turn, possible. Return to wrestling, no.

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From: rschwabe@ravel.udel.edu (Robert Josep Schwabe)
Subject: Wrestling Tapes?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:21:40 GMT

I see a great deal of information about submitting videos and buying wrestling
tapes and all, but I am rather confused (I guess I don't read the group enough)
as to what exactly is available and what is almost available.  I see the 
posts for people about info for the stuff, but I guess I can be a little slow
sometimes and I would like to know what is available.  I may be interested 
so send me mail, or better yet you may want to post it simply because I think
that a good deal of the people who aren't the major contributors to this 
newsgroup, would be interested.  

Thanks in advance.
Robert J. Schwabe