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From: Jimmy.Tung@dartmouth.edu (Jimmy Tung)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: What is Barcodes ???
Date: 2 Oct 92 20:36:02 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
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If you look on most commericially purchased items, you see a little
patch of lines (or bars) of varying thicknesses and numbers.  At the
checkout counter they use a (usually red) beam of light to read this
UPC code to quickly determine price, description, control inventory,
etc.  Those are barcodes, which you've probably seen.

As to what they're doing in photography, I can think of 2 applications.
 The first is that in some newer cameras with all sorts of convenient
doodads on them (ie Canon Elan) there is a barcode reader option.  For
some add'l $$$, Canon provides a barcode reader and a book.  You flip
through the book until you find the photographic situation you are
trying to capture on film (eg candlelit table, fireworks, double
images, night shots of moving cars), zip the barcode reader over the
associated barcode, and your camera is then set (aperature, shutter) to
take the picture.  I'd personally be misplacing the book constantly,
drop the reader, and end up overriding the programs anyway, but hey, if
the market exists, who am I to be critical?  I suppose I could suggest
that a little knowledge and maybe a 'cheat sheet' of appropriate
aperature/shutter combos for different situations might be better....
To be fair, I also suggest that some cameras have such "simple"
controls that to override DX settings, set non-standard
exposure/aperature, is impossible, and the barcode reader in a
convenient input device to access these capabilities.

The other use is on negatives and prints.  The barcode records the date
and some identifying code number, so that when you are examining a
print that cries out to be duplicated or enlarged, you can quickly find
the appropriate negative. At least this was reason #2 when I started
this post; I suppose that simply printing a id code on the back of a
print would eliminate a need for getting a hold of a barcode reader.  I
seem to remember reading about this in a pop mag awhile back, but it's
making less and less sense as I think about it.

Anyway, those are my thoughts.

JT

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Live and don't learn, that's us.  "Calvin & Hobbes"
From: bu890@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian Segal)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: EPP vs EPX
Date: 27 Sep 1992 11:13:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


EPX was introduced by Kodak in direct competition with Fujichromes..especially
Velvia. Ektachrome (and EPP is no exception) has a tendency to be too blue,
and this results in cooler color, and a kind of flat color response.and can
make human skin look rather mordent...so they "warmed" up the film and
introduced EPX which has a MUCH warmer bias.

I have used EPX outdoors, and it is a very effective film for things like
sunsets..but I find that Kodak has sort of overdone it a bit.  I have to
say, however, that EPC sems to have better tonal modulation that EPP which
I find overly contrasty.

I mostly use Fujichromes as the range from Velvia to RDP allows one
to vary color intensity and saturation once you know how to tweak it..for
an all round film in E-6 RDP is hard to beat..and Velvia can be pure
magic once you understand it's character.


Brian
From: reed@nastar.uucp (Reed Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Mail order: Adorama
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:33:19 GMT
Organization: Digital Transmission Systems, Duluth, GA.

In article <6776@transfer.stratus.com> hship@sw.stratus.com (Howard Ship) writes:
>For those keeping track ...
>
>On an order where "everything is in stock and will ship today" the 
>package arrived later than promised, and had one item backordered afterall.
>I am not happy.
>
>They threw everthing in a plastic bag and put the bad in a big carton filled
>with plastic shipping peanuts.  The thin walled darkroom louver was bent
>but is still useable.  I am less happy.
>
>The off camera cable I ordered for my Maxxum does not fit the OC shoe
>I ordered.  On the phone I specifically identified that I had a Maxxum
>camera and flash. Now I have to deal with sending back the cable (which arrived
>in a bag, not even a box) and getting the right one ordered.  Which will be
>in stock and shipped today, but will instead be backordered for a few years.
>I am very unhappy.
>
>They also didn't include any kind of catalog.
>
>Rating: inept, but not evil.
>
>-- 
>"I can't believe I had the Anti!"
>Howard_Ship@vos.stratus.com

I've had very good luck with my last 2-3 orders from Adorama, particulary
with one salesman whose name unfortunately escapes me right now.

I always tell the salesperson "no backorders" meaning ship me (and bill me)
only for the in-stock items.  The salesperson has always entered the
"no backorders" request on the invoice, so my orders have been shipped
immediately and I don't have to wait and hassle over backorders.

Regards,

-- 

reed%nastar.uucp@mathcs.emory.edu
Reed C. Wilson
Digital Transmission Systems
From: bu890@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Brian Segal)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: *** Beginner needs advice fast
Date: 2 Oct 1992 22:47:03 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Cameras do not take "professional looking" pictures - skilled trained and
experienced photographers do.

The model of the camera, assuming it is some quality is relatively unimportant.
If I were you I'd get a decent point and shoot with zoom capacity and hope
for the best.

I am really intrigued about your desire to do copy stand work with no
experience and no knowledge of photographic theory and practice.....

As we say in Canada these days...Bonne Chance!

bgs
Organization: Doctoral student, Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Date: Sat,  3 Oct 1992 14:26:46 -0400 
From: Luis Abdon Cifuentes <lc0v+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Rolleiflex repair?

I just discovered that the shutter speeds in my wife's Rolleiflex 2.8F
are off by one stop (one stop slower than normal). Although this is not
critical, I would like to have the shutter adjusted and probably cleaned
and oiled.

Can anybody recommed a repair service? The camera is in very good shape,
so I really want to send to a good service.

Does somebody has the number of the Rollei service? It is advisable to
send it there?

Thanks in advance



Luis A. Cifuentes
Engineering and Public Policy Department
Carnegie Mellon University
Pittsburgh, PA 15213
lcifuentes+@andrew.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: myellam@eng.clemson.edu (Y. MURALI KRISHNA)
Subject: Advice for a Novice
Reply-To: myellam@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:38:12 GMT



Keywords: Camera, Buy, Novice





Hi,


I have been following the postings on this net for a couple of weeks. 
I am curious and desire to be introduced to the world of photgraphy.

I have since been religiously following all articles for any advice to novices.
However I have not been able to gather enough ( i feel) material for a
purchase of camera to suit my needs. I have flipped through past year and a 
half's issues of Popular Photography.  

I have also gone through the booklet

"HOW TO USE YOUR 35mm CAMERA", Minolta Corp. and Double Day company.

What I really need is some advice and experience in purchasing a camera from experts and ex-novices(!).

i.  I have a budget of $150 ( can stretch it to $200).

ii. I am looking for a camera which has the basic features of 
Point & Shoot and Manual Camera. No hi-tech features.

iii. I would prefer having a built-in-flash ( but advice otherwise is
also welcome).

could you suggest models which meet these requirements? 

all the advice is appreciated.

thanking you in advance.




Y. Murali Krishna
(myellam@eng.clemson.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi)
Subject: Re: former nikon ownerREAD/NEW/FOLLOWUP
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:55:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.055037.19832@netcom.com>, hchong@netcom.com (Hoi Chong) writes:
> From article <1992Oct1.042040.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, by zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi):
>> In article <1992Sep30.162445.6981@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, eugene@briar.lle.rochester.edu (Eugene Kowaluk) writes:
>> ...
>>> But too late, after 15 years with Nikon I switched to Canon last month.
> 
Just a vapid thought, no one seems to have told Canon's maketriods that 'elan'
is a synonym for 'flair'. :-)

~Paul

Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: jrl1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Robby La Farge)
Subject: Freezing Film
Keywords: film
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 01:55:40 GMT

I ran across a deal where a store my friend owned was going out of business 
and he had about 50 rolls of the new kodack gold plus film, I got the film
from at a steal but I need to know if it can be put in the freezer or if I need
to clear off a shelf in the fridge and store it there, and if it has to go in
the fridge what is a good line to tell my wife about why a 50 rolls in there?
Later,
Robby LaFarge

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* Robby LaFarge                 * What do you mean pigs don't fly,            *
* jrl1@cc.msstate.edu           * I see one on final right now!               *
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Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: glp@tfs.com (Gregory Pease)
Subject: Re: More than 37 exposures/roll with 8008s?
Organization: TRW Financial Systems
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:24:41 GMT

In article <3830318@hpldsla.sid.hp.com> tonya@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Tony Arnerich) writes:
>mas@mipl8.jpl.nasa.gov (Marc Sarrel) writes:
>[stuff about 35, 36, 38 frames deleted...]
>
>Your problem restated: "What's so sacred about 36 frames anyway?"

Why, isn't it obvious?  36 is half of 72, which is half of 144, which 
is 12 squared.  ;)

-- 
Gregory Pease    | "I say, Clive, it's a bit stuffy in here.
glp@tfs.com      | Would you open the window?"  -Dr. Fred Madlener
510/704-3133     | 
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: ghica@fig.citib.com (Renato Ghica)
Subject: Re: Don't Buy From Smile Photo
Originator: ghica@duck
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:10:03 GMT


In article <1992Sep29.182527.16470@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com>, billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
|> swgto@cs.iastate.edu (Swagato Basumallick) writes:
|> : billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
|> : 
|> : >Now, if Slime Photo had up and sent you a filter, without you ordering
|> :          ^^^^^^^^^^^
|> : >anything from them, then you would be free to keep and use the filter
|> : >without charge. In this case, it would be considered a gift to you.
|> : 
|> : >Bill
|> : 
|> : 
|> : Intentional, or just a typo ?
|> : 
|> : Just Curious.
|> 
|> Now, if I stated that it was intentional, then they might sue me for
|> libel - right? 
|> 
|> You decide yourself about the firm. What I have read, there is no way
|> that I would deal with the business.
|> 
|> Bill

Then again, there's no connection between Slime and Smile except for the
same letters being used. So to get presented with a libel suit, you;d
have to say, "Slime Photo, of such and such State, with such and such
phone number etc etc." Otherwise one could claim to be talking about anyone
company.

-- 

"I am a brain, Watson."
"These views are my own. / Mail me or Flame me"

Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: All-weather options?\
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: Weather
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 23:36:51 GMT


   Try Minolta Weathermatic. It is not that expensive beside it
 floats.
   i myself have a Minolta Maxxum 8000i ,and  use Ewa Marines 
 plastic bags. it cost around $125 or so. or may be ewa marines
 has a bag for small p/s camera. if that is the case you can
 still use your present p/s  or what ever.

    While we still on this subject . i remember Nikon also
 have a dunkable p/s with name like sport touch or action touch
 i didn't see it any more in Pop Pho advertisement section anymore
 some body told me nikon all weather p/s has better optic than
 minolta's plus you can manual focus(by setting the distance scale)
 vs  minolta's fixed focus once in water. any answer ???
From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Developing TMAX P3200 pushed to 6400
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:28:13 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

klomp@sce.philips.nl wrote:
> Anyone familiar with developing TMAX P3200 pushed to 6400 in Agfa Rodinal
> or Ilford Perceptol.

Is this really a good idea?  The last time I tried to use an unsuitable
developer for heavy pushing I got a bad case of dichroic fog.  You're never
going to get as good a result, by any measure, with these developers as you
would with T-Max, Microphen, Acuspeed, or even boring old D-76/ID-11.  And
Perceptol *certainly* wasn't intended for that!

-- 
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17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8RZ, Scotland   TEL: 041 339 8855 x6854 (work)
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From: tim@introl.com (Tim Chase)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: USM lens battery drain (Was Re: Experience with Canon EF 100-300mm f/4.5-5.6 USM)
Date: 2 Oct 1992 12:41:14 -0500
Organization: Introl Corp.
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: introl.introl.com

In article <1992Oct2.165104.18263@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins) writes:
>In article <1aghq1INN5td@introl.introl.com>, tim@introl.com (Tim Chase) writes:
>> 
>DO NOT apply when using these "L" series USM telephotos). As far As I know
>there is no significant difference in current draw between the regular EF
>lenses and the small USM lenses.

Strange, there have been times when a semi-worn-out battery wouldn't power
the 100-300 USM (i.e. would practically go dead, locking up the mirror, etc.)
but would still power a 24mm EF just fine (for a long time).

At that point, I just throw away the battery since it isn't much good if
it only works on smaller lenses.

-- 
Tim Chase		           Introl Corp. Milwaukee, WI USA
Email: tim@introl.com		   Phone: +1 (414) 327-7171
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: ka1gt@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.m.atkins)
Subject: Re: Mirror Lens
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:13:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.190351.14452@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, wb@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (werner.baumgartner) writes:
> I have the opportunity to buy a Bauch & Lomb 800mm Mirror Lens.
> The asking price is $175.00. It appears to be a small telescope
> that can be attached to a camera. Any information about this item
> would be appreciated such as quality, used market price, etc.
> 

I haven't used the 800mm B&L, but I have used the 1200mm B&L "telescope/lens".
It was not impressive. Even if you could hold it steady enough (big tripod) it
still showed significant field curvature and low contrast. If the 800 is
similar in construction (i.e front corrector plate and two mirror surfaces)
then I would expect similar problems. The "telescope/lens" systems do not
usually have field flattening optics, wheras the 500mm mirror lenses usually
do. If you can live with the shorter fl, a 500mm mirror lens would probably
be a better buy (and should cost around $200-$250 new). Of course if you 
want to use it as a telescope as well, then it might make sense, if you don't
need much in the way of photographic performance.

===============================================================
Bob Atkins  AT&T Bell Labs  email (direct)  att!clockwise!rma
===============================================================

Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: tad@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Need some felt
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:08:58 GMT

I have an olympus OM-1 which I would like to use, but cannot
because the felting on the back has disintegrated. I have tried
to obtain to proper felt locally, but have been unable to do so.
Everyone wants to fix it for me for $25-$35 rather than sell me
the felt so I could do it myself.  This is annoying since I have
already cleaned off the old felt, and it is now a 5 minute job to
finish.  Is there anyone out there in net land who could sell me
some camera felt?

Thanks,
Tad
--
tad@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: experience with 8000i?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 18:47:38 GMT

In article <92279.232824QXF1@psuvm.psu.edu> <QXF1@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Hi, is there any one who has any experience with a Minolta 8000i?  I am
>planningto get one from ABE's for $300.  Price sounds good, but I want s
me
>pros and cons toward to camera itself.
>Thanks in advance.
>
>Ching Fong



      Hi .I have own 8000i for two years now. It has go
  to hot,humid and dusty tropic. Snow storm. and for some
  times it go with me to campus every days inside my Book s
  sacks. It look beaten up now but still working
  flawlessly.  Mine has been accidentally drop from waist
  level twice . the last time the drop destroy my sigma 28-
  70mm. Once my good buddy accidentally grab my sacks and
  put on floor rather rought and with the weight of the book 
  the UV filter were crush . It was a sickening crushing noise
  but 8000i survive.

       Now about the perfomance. It is a great camera good
  auto focus.(i think you have research the 8000i capability)
   so i purposely left it out. The only gripe is the shift 
  button. it use slider switch which i found not as good as 
   rotary whell as use in other camera.

       The cards , Don't listen to the craps about how 8000i
   strip the feature so they can sell you the cards ,making
   it more expensive. the truth is that "Most of feature 
   offer by cards are also offer by 8000i but  at lesser extent"
   e.g bracketing cards offer +- 4stop 1/3 stop compensation
       8000i have +- 4stop 1/2 compensation but no auto bracket
       Multiple exposure offer  up to 9 exposure per frame
       with option of fade in or fade out.
       8000i have 2 exposure per frame 
        so on and on.
       My favorite cards are Data card,Multi spot, depth 
       bracket .
  
     8000i is my first camera and i learn photography with it
  along with Data card. data card and slide film allow me to
  compare exposure value . and experiment. I'm just too lazy
  to take notes every exposure.

     Also don't forget the 5200i flash . 
      Overall 800i is great. i started with no knowledge of
  photography and learn step by step. until now i still
  discovering 8000i capabilities. With the price gone
  so low i might even buy another 8000i probably
   the pearl color.


   Muskie
   Smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu
   UK07802@mik.uky.edu


Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: schooler@apollo.hp.com (Richard Schooler)
Subject: Re: How do you pronounce Leica? [Actually, Nikon]
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:40:52 GMT
Organization: HP/Apollo Massachusetts Language Lab

  This reminds me of my pet peeve: how does one pronounce 'Nikon'?  My
formative camera years were spent in Tokyo, and there I learned to say
Nee-kon, which is consistent with everything I know about the Japanese
language, not to mention that Nikon is a contraction of Nippon Kogaku.
Many westerners seem to think it is Nie-kon, however, which the
Japanese would tend to romanize as Naikon, I believe.

  And yet another pet peeve, the spelling of 'Canon'.  Even in
Shutterbug Ads one often sees 'Cannon'!  Don't people even look at the
equipment they're selling?

  Anyway, back to more serious and useful stuff :-)

        -- Richard
From: asanders@adobe.com (Alan Sanders)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Need Nikon Body Repair (K & S?)
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:56:40 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

| Needless to say, I was not highly impressed by Apollo.

				-David Jacobson

There have been previous warnings in rec.photo about Apollo.
Sounds like it would be wise to simply avoid them.

					-Alan
From: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: How do you pronounce Leica? [Actually, Nikon]
Date: 2 Oct 92 12:09:18 GMT
Reply-To: dbernard@thewho.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems


>  This reminds me of my pet peeve: how does one pronounce 'Nikon'?  My
>formative camera years were spent in Tokyo, and there I learned to say
>Nee-kon, which is consistent with everything I know about the Japanese
>language, not to mention that Nikon is a contraction of Nippon Kogaku.
>Many westerners seem to think it is Nie-kon, however, which the
>Japanese would tend to romanize as Naikon, I believe.

	But then we'd have to pronounce "Minolta" as "Meen-a-root-a!"
	Now, how would we pronounce "Olympus?" ;-)
		Dave

Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: qawi@cae.wisc.edu (Imaduddin Qawi)
Subject: DEVELOPING ONLY
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 27 Sep 92 14:27:08 CDT
Originator: qawi@sun-20.cae.wisc.edu
Keywords: DEVELOPING ONLY


Can anyone post the address of any processing lab which offers developing of
films. 
I usually photograph the same subject with multiple settings of exposures and
do not want to get prints of every negative.

Thanks.
Qawi
From: reed@nastar.uucp (Reed Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: 35mm Nikkormat FT2 chrome body for sale
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:51:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Digital Transmission Systems, Inc.

(Apologies to all if this post is appearing for the second time,
but I don't think my first attempt at posting it worked.)

For sale:  Nikkormat FT2 35mm chrome camera body

Features:
  - 1 - 1/1000th shutter speeds plus B
  - flash synchronization up to 1/125th second
  - self-timer
  - depth-of-field preview
  - mirror lock-up
  - center-weighted Cds meter; meter needle visible both in
    viewfinder and on top plate of camera
  - ASA range 12-1600
  - flash hot shoe (non-dedicated) and PC-style sync terminal
  - Nikon F mount, non-AI
  - in production 1975-76

Condition:
  - external appearance:
    - couple of dings and usual assortment of scratches on
      camera baseplate
    - some scuffing/scratches on/around Nikkormat nameplate
    - some brassing on edges of back
    - remainder of external finish in excellent condition
  - internal:
    - excellent condition
  - foam light seals replaced (professionally) Winter 1992
  - shutter and meter function perfectly (tested at same time
    as light seals replacement, above) 
  - includes:
    - original FT2 box, packing, and manual

Reason for sale:
  - replacing with newer equipment

Price:
  - asking $140 (includes shipping, continental U.S.)

Contact (serious inquiries only, please):
  - Reed Wilson   (w) 404-497-0101  (h) 404-447-0431
  - or email responses to: reed%nastar.uucp@mathcs.emory.edu

-- 

reed%nastar.uucp@mathcs.emory.edu
Reed C. Wilson
Digital Transmission Systems