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From: bkeeley@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Brian Keeley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: United Dairies releases
Keywords: Nurse With Wound, Lemon Kittens, Tietchens
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:59:50 GMT

I was complaining to a mate the other day, that with the Industrial
Records re-release going on with Mute/Grey Area, the only major
industrial label not available on CD was United Dairies.  But then
this weekend, I noticed that Nurse w/ Wound's _Chance Meeting on a
Dissecting Table_ and their other early release on UD (the name
escapes me) were out. (I assume this is a new development.  I had
never seen them before. Correct me if I'm wrong.)  I assume that the
NwW stuff has been released by the efforts of the band, and not as
part of a bigger UD reissue project.  My question is this: what
other bits and peices of the UD back-catalogue are available?  I
know that tracks off of _An Afflicted Man's Musica Box_ ended up on
the various compilations of Foetus and Coil.  But what else?

The depressing thing is that even if there was a massive reissue,
like the complete UD recordings (vinly)box-set that came out a while back,
it wouldn't include the excellent Lemon Kittens material.  Danielle
Dax claims that she and her old band-mates stole the original
masters.  No wonder those damn LK records are so bloody expensive!!

Finally, if we on rmi had our choice, what UD records would we want
to see reissued?  Now that the NwW stuff is out, I'd like to see a
CD of Asmus Teitchens' album.  Any other faves?

Reality
From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Here we go now...)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Think Tree
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:21:38 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>So, does anyone else out there think this band is pretty good?  I seem to
>remember a thread about them here a few months ago...

I like their Ep 'Eight/Thirteen' which is more industrial-like than their new
release.  From limited listening, their new one didn't do much for me.

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From: fish@jab.tucson.az.us (Fresh Fish)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Arizona Industrial
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:44:07 GMT
Organization: Just Another Bbs. Tucson, AZ

> Additionally, i have on good authority that another Arizona band, the  
> Users of the Wicked Gravity, will be opening for Controlled Bleeding on  
> their US/Canada tour this summer.  Do *not* miss this show!
> 
> --Brett 

 
 Oh god, I hope not (I'm from Tucson)... I will go out and say Users of the 
Wicked Gravity is the biggest want-to-be band in... the world? A bunch of 
kids with money thinking they are "industrial"... the only band that no-one 
in tucson likes... and there are some really bad bands with fans here.... oh 
well....
 
I guess i have no say, because I don't like Controlled Bleeding either (I do 
like Skin Chamber though)
 
-dave wright
 microdot
From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Intermix (was Re: Some reviews: inlc Merzbow & Bigod 20)
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:43:46 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

And lo, atman@ecst.csuchico.edu (Thin Layer Of Pond Scum) spake unto the masses saying:
>
> -> InterMIX - InteRmIX - TMD 9230
>
> Good but unremarkable Bill Leeb/Rhys Fulber stuff.  This diagram should
> explain it quite concisely:
>
>                  +------------+
>   Front Line ==> | House Beat | ==>  iNtERMIx
>   Assembly       | Xmogrifier |
>                  +------------+

Hmmm, I personally think the diagram should look something like....

                 Delerium
                    |
                    V
                 +------------+
  Front Line ==> | House Beat | ==>  iNtERMIx
  Assembly       | Xmogrifier |
                 +------------+

There's a definite hint of their Delerium work in there - some of the
melodies seem more typical of that spin-off than yer average FLA album. Or
maybe it's just the fact that it doesn't have Bill Leeb rasping over the
top.

BTW - an Intermix related question - has the "Dream On" single been
released on CD in the US? Over here in the UK we got the self-titled album,
which was only released on CD, and a 2-track (neither track on the album)
12" single with "Dream On" as the A-side but which *wasn't* released as a
CD single. Is the situation any different anywhere else? I was personally
somewhat pissed off at it's non-availability on CD, since I try not to buy
vinyl if at all possible.

--
		      Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
       "Breakdown. Splinter. A thousand fragments disperse and die."
From: prosser@deluxa.cs.umass.edu (DANIEL PROSSER)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: various (SRL, GPOrridge, etc.)
Summary: Depeche Mode Sucks It Hard
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:57:20 GMT
Reply-To: prosser@deluxa.cs.umass.edu (DANIEL PROSSER)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst


	Did anyone else catch the short piece that Headline News (part of
CNN) did on the SRL show for the SF Museum of Art?  I caught it about a 
week ago:  It was on the whole a pretty amiable portrayal, with not much
of the ``Gee ain't they strange'' type of commentary that usually 
accompanies stories about `performance art'.  I'm sorry I missed them.
Where else will they be performing, anybody know?
-------------
	While in Boston this weekend, I picked up the latest copy of
`Re/Search' (# 13, I think).  It's entitled ``Modern Primitives'' and is
devoted to tatooing and body piercing.  As I was browsing through, I caught
sight of a familiar name:  It seems that one of the articles deals with
Genesis P. and Paula Orridge and the various parts of their bodies that
they have pierced.  Any diehard fans out there should check it out.
One of the illustrations shows them naked as hell displaying said
parts (sort of an `Industrial American Gothic').  
-----------
	Oh, and , BTW, for those of you scoring at home:
		Depeche Mode still sucks, 
	and
		Christianity is still stupid.

			Thank you.
-------------				dylyn


``...Whether `tis nobler in forlorn mind to suffer charred 
doomsday dust arrows of outrageous fortune Or icy take 
dementia against a sea of clues...'' ---Hamlet, the Ogre soliliquy 
---daniel prosser, aka dylyn, ==  prosser@elux3.cs.umass.edu----
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: atman@ecst.csuchico.edu (Thin Layer Of Pond Scum)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Industrial Music!!!
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:46:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: ecst.1992Apr09.204611.4505
Organization: California State University, Chico

In article <1992Apr8.193714.473@yvax.byu.edu> croftj@yvax.byu.edu writes:
>If someone who didn't know anything about industrial music asked you "what is
>industrial music" how would you respond? What is the definition of industrial
>music?


Industrial Music: (n) 1) Any lengthy sound that you don't know what else it is.
2) The sound of corporate executives cackling while shafting each other, 
themselves, and you, at your expense.  3) You wouldn't understand unless
you've had your knee pierced, gotten rid of your television, and voluntarily
eaten your own feces and vomit.

For illustrations and examples, see the current issues of Time, Newsreek, or
watch a single episode of "A Current Affair."  Record Maury Povitch on 
extended play, use your home camcorder and your new Sony's picture-in-
picture to make a video of you blowing your own head off with a 12 gauge
shotgun, record it on another Sony camcorder off the television, et voila!
The meaning of industrial will come to you in a bright flash.

Time, Newsweek, A Current Affair, Maury Povitch, and Skippy Nunny are all
registred trademarks of Sony Corp.


-- 
  atman@ecst.csuchico.edu  ||  What good is it if it doesn't distort?
  
  I have an idea for a flagpole.  I'd like to run it through the color 
  quantizer for any comments/suggestions.   -- almost Aaron Birenboim
From: mbl@media.mit.edu (Marc LoCascio)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN EP: 'Now I'm Nothing'?
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:51:43 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

In article <5571@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx>, al162423@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Raul Beristain) writes:
> cspot@cats.ucsc.edu (Chris.Hilker) writes:
> 
> 
> >I'm not sure this actually exists, but an acquaintance of mine
> >has been looking for (supposedly) the first release by Nine
> >Inch Nails, an EP called 'Now I'm Nothing' which was claimed
> >to have been released before 'Pretty Hate Machine.' Can anyone
> >give me any infotainment on this? Does it exist? 
> 
> BTW, the only album from this dude i've been able to find is this "pretty hate
> machine". I'm not sure if it's his only one. Cn you post some information
> about him? 

according to an interview in Musician mag last year, the songs on PHM were
the first and only songs that Trent had ever written.  he spent a few years 
working on them, devising the NIN persona (i.e. pop-industrial), recording
them (he was a studio engineer/programmer at the time), etc.  i don't know
whether he's actually written any more songs after those 10 either.

Marc LoCascio	(mbl@media-lab.media.mit.edu)
From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: COIL: THE SONG NEVER MENTIONED ON R.M.I.
Keywords: HyperGod exists in the fragmented holes of time
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 20:42:22 GMT
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.


alh@einoed.in-berlin.de (Adrian Le Hanne) writes:
>damian@unix.cis.pitt.edu (Impossible Crushing Force) writes:
>>There is a song by Coil that never gets mentioned on here.
>>CORE Compilation
>>----------------
>>Track #1       FEEDER (with Coil)

>This was a cooperation with Chris + Cosey (CTI) (but a boring one in my taste). Technically Coil had send CTI a tape with some tracks, and then Chris + Cosey 
>added their part to this (to all songs of the CORE release, btw). BTW, have
>you noticed the music between the songs?

Boring?  I love this track... the way it moves from the strings&piano into
total throbbing noise is just incredible.  Makes my hair stand on end all
the time.  Once under the influence of various chemicals I managed to make
out lots of the words buried in the mix.  Stuff like "you're going to hell"
all stretched out and echoed.

-- 
Jon Drukman (finely honed machine)              uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: u0550bm@unx.ucc.okstate.edu (Melyssa )
Subject: Re: United Dairies releases
Keywords: Nurse With Wound, Lemon Kittens, Tietchens
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:49:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.041520.4396@midway.uchicago.edu> tisu@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <31699@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> bkeeley@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Brian Keeley) writes:
>
>First of all, I thought that United Dairies was run by Steve Stapleton
>-- is this a wrong impression I got somehow?
>
I don't know if my message got to you or not...(i'm new at this post-
ing business)..Most current93 and nurse with wound and a few other
select items can all be purchased at:BM WOUND, London WC1N 3XX,UK
CDs are 11 pounds....to get info you need to send an IRC. I don't
usually get what I want at the store so I have to order..hope this 
helps..
       -m
From: al162423@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Raul Beristain)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN EP: 'Now I'm Nothing'?
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:28:49 GMT
Organization: I.T.E.S.M. Campus Monterrey

cspot@cats.ucsc.edu (Chris.Hilker) writes:


>I'm not sure this actually exists, but an acquaintance of mine
>has been looking for (supposedly) the first release by Nine
>Inch Nails, an EP called 'Now I'm Nothing' which was claimed
>to have been released before 'Pretty Hate Machine.' Can anyone
>give me any infotainment on this? Does it exist? Where can she
>get it if it does? What is on it?

>Thanks.
>C.
>-- 
>ALL OF US ARE ONE PEOPLE
>Chris.Hilker
>cspot@cats.ucsc.edu

BTW, the only album from this dude i've been able to find is this "pretty hate
machine". I'm not sure if it's his only one. Cn you post some information
about him? 

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: kerchen@fuji.cs.ucdavis.edu (pall kerchen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Capitol's word on "Last Rights"
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:30:22 GMT
Reply-To: kerchen@fuji.cs.ucdavis.edu (pall kerchen)
Distribution: usa
Organization: U.C. Davis, Computer Security Lab

I called Capitol today to ask about getting a replacement for my
ill-mastered copy of "Last Rights" (the place where I bought my copy
is unwilling to take care of things for me).  The person who I talked
to told me that all copies have the 39 second defect and that Capitol
is eventually going to release a new (non-faulty) release but she
didn't know when that would happen.  She told me that I should write
to them describing the problem and when they press the new release
they will send me a copy.  Most notable was the fact that she did not
mention that I needed to send the defective copy back to them.
Anyway, here's the address she gave me (in case anyone else is in the
same boat as me):
	Capitol-EMI Music Inc.
	Attn: Quality Assurance, 4th Floor
	1750 N. Vine St.
	Hollywood, CA  90028


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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: iew21308@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ian E. Wickram)
Subject: Re: great! new industrial dance!
Keywords: this is the trip! the best part!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:31:39 GMT

jaywb@juliet.caltech.edu (Bromley, Jay W.) writes:

>so a really cool disk to dance to:
> Current 93  present Harry Oldfield 'CRYSTAL'


Ye Gods, you must be joking! I think this must be a rather cruel joke as well
given the fact someone might actually purcase this C93 release (~22$) and
expect dance stuff.  Also someone might come to believe that the Oldfield
stuff is representative of C93.  For dancing to C93 i recomend inhaling model
glue and experiencing the deep bass of Dogs Blood Rising. Maybe C93 might do
for ritual dance, but for industrial (club?) dance, I've yet to hear anything
except the tongue in cheek version of Crowley Mass.  By the way if you meant
ritualistic dance or are into some meta-reality by which Oldfield might become
danceable to me, please e-mail.
						Yrs in Tawil-at-Ulmr,
							Ian Wickram!!!
                                                      iew21308@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu










>jay bromley, space cadet | to go downtown, crushing crucifixion, particles

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: danm@watson.ibm.com (Dan McCabe)
Subject: Q: Chris and Cosey recommendations?
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:22:48 GMT
Reply-To: danm@grumpy.watson.ibm.com (Dan McCabe)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM TJ Watson Research


Since we are all an opinionated lot, what recommendations would we make
regarding the definitive Chris and Cosey release? I have Trust, which I
like (it could have more of an edge, but it is pleasant enough).

What do others recommend? And why do you recommend it above other C&C
(assuming that
you have a rational reason for recommending it, although none is needed)?

Cheers,
danm
From: kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Negativland Questions
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:57:01 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

I've recently become interested in industrial music, and I'd like to know:

1) is there a Negativland discography out there? (I have the SST catalog from
"Guns," but I know there's more out than what's on that list.)

2) can anyone make reccomendations of what to get by them? (I have "Guns" and
"A Big 10-8 Place")

3) Is "U2" stil available *anywhere*?

Thanks,
-- 
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PhoneNet: (502)745-4246	  (Bowling Green, KY)  | eat the HELL out of it!
This has been a test. If this had been an actual emergency, you'd be dead.
Quote of the Week: "Quaker-pop Rice Sparkies and Quaker-pop Wheat Sparkies,
	those delicious, nutritious breakfast cereals shot from guns!"
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: spike@world.std.com (Joe Ilacqua)
Subject: Re: Review: The Swans with Machines of Loving Grace at the Paradise 4/8/92
Organization: Software Tool & Die
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 23:00:41 GMT


In the article referenced above  boccibob@media.mit.edu (Robert Ramstad) writes:
<MoLG was quite good, I was pretty impressed, though the crowd had 0
<energy all night, probably because doors were supposed to open at 8,
<they opened more like 9, and MoLG didn't go on until probably 9:45 or
<so.  They played for about 45 minutes.  Industrial, but not
<*EXTREMELY* so, and quite listenable.  I liked them, though they
<didn't blow me away or anything.  They are interesting and probably
<very palatable to a fairly wide audience -- they just might become
<bigger than NIN in a few years.

	I agree with the review, MoLG was great, and really in to it.
I was pretty disappointed with the crowd, they seemed to be there for
The Swans, not MoLG.  Check out their album if you haven't and watch
for the CD singal for "Burn Like Brilliant Trash (At Jackie's
Funeral)" which has a version of that song remix by Trent Reznor.

->Spike

-- 
The Truly K00L don't have signatures.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: atman@ecst.csuchico.edu (Thin Layer Of Pond Scum)
Subject: Re: I want to make Music(But need help!)
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:01:54 GMT

In article <XXq9iB1w164w@tz.wimsey.bc.ca> dippybir@tz.wimsey.bc.ca (Jeremy Tolsma) writes:
>carruthers@brandonu.ca writes:
>> >  
>> > SURE of course its possible, but y fiddle around anyways?  I suggest u sell
>> > your computer & your SBpro, & buy a few hours at a local recording studio 
>> [...babbling that looks like it was written by a 3 year old girl deleted...]
>> > Find more money somewhere & cut your own CDS, try 2 sell them at your gigs.
>> 
>> Don't be such a fucking dork.  It was a serious question which deserved a
>> tiny bit of thought rather than the garbage that actually appeared in this
>> post.  Or is it too much to expect serious answers to serious questions on
>> this group sometimes?  (Apologies to those who ARE helpful...)
>> 
> 
>Thanx 4 helping out so much.

Jeremy, you should seriously consider transferring to PSU.

Word to your inbred ancestors,

@Man

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  In _my_ universe, in short, classes are not unreal, but they're less
  real than their members.      -- John Barth
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 15:58:34 CDT
From: <U30471@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Freejack sound track.

  I noticed that ministry is on the freejack soundtrack album.  Is the version
of thieves on the soundtrack markedly different from TMIATTTT or ICYDFLSA?
Would it justify buying the soundtrack just to get it?
---DAVE!!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: nivekogr@athena.mit.edu (Christopher M Teixeira)
Subject: Re: DEPECHE MODE VS. NEUBAUTEN?
Summary: Let's play Master and Servant
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 21:23:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.160230.27446@coe.montana.edu> icsu8288@cs.montana.edu (Foster) writes:
>
>Enough already with this hairlip thread.  I like DM too, but until they
>cover _Assimilate_, let's keep 'em off r.m.i.
>-- 
   
    How about if they have collaborated with Einstuerzende Neubauten?
   Remember DM's songs 'People Are People' and the Metal Mix (oooo) of
 'Something To Do' recorded in  '84/'85 ?  Some members of EN apparently
 banged some small pieces of metal together for the PaP track which then
 inspired DM to use metallic percussion (although it sounds VERY synthetic)
 on the 'Metal Mix' version of SomToDo.  I can't imagine this collab. was
 desired mutually.  At this time both bands were on the same label (Mute)
 and I guess Gareth Jones convinced FM Einheit to give one of the DM's  
 metal clanging lessons.  Hard to believe, eh?  Of course, EN have performed
 with other bands such as Fad Gadget and Sprung Auf(s ?) Den Wolken to name
 a few.

    Yup, DM tried to be Trent Reznor 5 years too early and no one here needs to
 be reminded about the exalted place of Mr. Reznor on this list. {|->

 -Chris Teixeira
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 08:50:28 CDT
From: <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: FuckBlack

In article <9204072217.AA24288@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu>, vcsc360@SFSUVAX1.SFSU.EDU
(Gabriel Russell) says:

>There is a Big Black album whos cover has a couple of fairly graphic
>photos of some human head after some hororable accedent. God knows. I
>can't remember the album name.

Methinks that would be the record version of HEADACHE,though it's considered a
collector's item and is therefore probably real expensive as such....

Can't help you out the scanner...the only person I know who definitely has
access to one is a real prick about doing things on time,if he bothers doing
them at all.

      ** Chris Krolczyk,esq.  * DISCLAIMER: My opinions are in **
      ** Maniac-at-Large      * no way endorsed by the Univer- **
      ** U19807@UICVM.BITNET  * sity of Illinois at Chicago.   **
      ** u19807@uicvm.uic.edu * So there. Nyaah.               **
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dht@controls.uucp (Danh Tran)
Subject: Re: Need names of good compilation CDs
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 01:28:46 GMT
Reply-To: dht@ccd.harris.com
Organization: Harris Corporation, Melbourne FL

In article <1992Apr7.213758.29042@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> as29482@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nalayak Kahinka) writes:
>I have most of the Art of Mix series, few of the Razormaids, and Deep Heat
>I am still looking for few more good compilation CD. I love a mixture
>of industrial and house music. Please help !!! Also if you can name some
>good stores in Chicago area where I can get these...
>thanx

I recommend compilation CDs from ZYX label (Germany).  

Danh Tran
From: james@sugaree.uu.net (James O. Payne, Jr.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: DEPECHE MODE MURDERS ROUTE 66
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:23:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: sugaree.1992Apr7.142304.160
Organization: IKEA US, Phila PA

In article <+a1tctf@rpi.edu>, youngd@cary113.its.rpi.edu (David P. Young) writes:
>    Hoo boy.
   <deleted>
>    Have a nice day.

Get 'em, Dave!

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