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Subject: Re: Mnemonics & Now - Burning Mines
From: system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 14:24:08 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand

bwilson@austin.ibm.com (Brad Wilson) writes:

> Now, I have a question about burning mines - I have heard a story about
> a coal mine that caught fire, and they couldn't put it out so it was sealed
> off, but still is burning (this has been years now) and it will continue
> to burn for a few more years.  They say in winter snow will not stay on
> the ground over the mine, because of the heat, and so you can find it in
> the winter quite easily.
> 
> Now I know this doesn't fit the UL style - it didn't happen to anyone in
> particular (although there might have been people trapped inside who had to
> be sealed in as well, I don't really recall) but my question is - has anyone
> else heard this sort of story, and could it really happen?  I know mines can
> burn, but can they continue to burn for years after being sealed off?

That doesn't seem likely, since coal mines are usually sealed [rather than
flooded these days, as flooding causes too much damage) to deprive the fire
of oxygen.

Is your story at all related to what I heard [I think it was in Europe - 
Finland?] where same hunters lit a fire [in 1956?] on peat-lands, which is
still burning. It largely burns underground so there's no way to put it out.

ObUL: This is the cause of the greenhouse effect.


BTW: I have a book here that says Nylon is from New York and LONdon as it
was invented in boths places at the same time. (GMT?)

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From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Subject: Re: "In Bed" - The origin of...
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:14:20 GMT
Keywords: in bed

In <1992Dec14.222731.17774@inmet.camb.inmet.com> porges@beretta.camb.inmet.com (Don Porges) writes:

    My mother reports that she first heard of this in junior high school,
    which would be the mid-1940s.

Attribute it to the usual suspects and let it drop.
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.drugs
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:01:16 GMT

"Stephen M. Lacy" <sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>I just want to say that the apparent knowledge of drugs on the network
>and the volume of people that have significant knowledge makes me
>utterly sick.  Is there something about computers that forces you all to
>take drugs, or do you just hang out with people who and that's how you
>get your knowledge.... anyways, you'll tell me that YOU don't really DO
>them, but I won't believe you.

>This whole discussion of LSD has gone too far and is upsetting me more
>with every post.
>Steve

	Don't get sick, Steve, get a kill file.

("this whole disscussion of kill files has gone too far and is
 upsetting me more and more with every post.")

Jim "god help me, I just can't stop reading news" Del Vecchio
From: de@moscom.com (David Esan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Amusing signs
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:55:45 GMT
Organization: Moscom Corporation, Pittsford NY

In article <1gdsg3INNi8h@bigboote.WPI.EDU> bdsm@fermat.WPI.EDU (Billy Don McConnell) writes:
>I don't know about Unknown Street, but in Austin, Texas, there is a street 
>called "Nameless Road".

In Rochester, NY there is a street called Emanon Street.  Every so often
an article appears in the paper discussing this name.  Seems that the
city planner had a sense of humor when naming streets and managed to stick
this one in.  Emanon is no name backwards.

(For those of you in Rochester, Emanon is off of St. Paul, just north of Norton.
 St. Paul was named for the church that was on the the corner of St. Paul and
 Main, which burnt down one year after its construction and never was 
 replaced. )
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.college
From: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall)
Subject: Re: College Libraries Funded by the Trivial
Originator: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:07:18 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Dec13.025333.20653@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:
>Do other colleges have libraries allegedly funded by the inventors of the
>mundane?  Are either of these stories true?

One of the dormitories at Phillips Exeter Academy was called 
"Installment Hall" when I was there in the early 70s.  The stories
that explained this were:  (1) it had been paid for by the parents
of a kid who was a student there at the time, and to avoid embarassing
the kid, the building wouldn't be named for the donors until after
he graduated; or (2) the donors were paying for it "on the install-
ment plan" (a bit at a time) and the school wouldn't put their name
on the building until after they'd paid everything they had promised.

Oddly, none of us students had the presence of mind to drop into
the principal's office and simply ask why it was called that.

Because I have had a little contact with that horrid place since
I graduated, I have no idea what the dorm is called now.  Do any
recent victims, er, graduates of That Red Place On The Squamscott
know the later history of Installment?

Bruce "No, I never met Exeter's infamous child-porn-collecting
professor, so don't ask" Tindall
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Bruce Tindall, Core Testing Mgr., SAS Institute Inc., Cary, N.C. 27513
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From: linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Peter van der Linden)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.drugs
Subject: The grass is greener
Date: 16 Dec 1992 21:32:09 GMT
Organization: House of woofs
NNTP-Posting-Host: positive

To the guy who is still insisting that death from overeating was
"due to" marijuana: what's your [or the Commission's] basis for claiming 
that the marijuana use "caused" the over-eating which caused the death?
It seems to me that any individual who could literally eat so much
that he died, would have a number of mental and physical problems
any of which could have caused this suicidal behavior.   To pick on
the marijuana use is nothing more than unfounded speculation,
unless you produce some evidence providing a connection.

Why isn't death from overeating caused by marijuana happening all over 
the world?  The lack supports the idea that this death was caused by 
something peculiar to this individual rather than something peculiar 
to marijuana.

Something is not true just because a Government commission says it is.
For example, the Meese Commission Report on Pornography makes for a hilarious
read on a wet afternoon.  Meese was the US Attorney General who 
eventually had to leave office under threat of impeachment.

Your suggestion that you're right because you have taught courses
in arguing speaks volumes about your sense of frustration in being
called on this one, but is less than useful in clinching your case.

I know it's not customary to apologize on the net, but I'm sorry if I've 
offended you.   This is sort of like the snuff film thread -- we are all
eager to see the evidence for claims of existence of smuff films, and
claims of death caused by marijuana.  So far, the claims have always been
defective when subjected to close scrutiny.

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From: maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J L Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.nude,alt.religion.kibology,alt.slack,alt.conspiracy,alt.drugs,alt.fan.warlord,alt.flame,alt.stupidity,
Subject: Re: Driving without shoes
Date: 15 Dec 1992 03:53:54 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk
Summary: Manic cross-posting strikes again!

In article <9aLFVB6w165w@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz> system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall) writes:

%I've been in situations where I've put the brake down as hard as I could
%[and stopped behind a staionery idiot with less than a foot to spare - quite
%a relief after 70 km / hr]. Rec.autos.* would know far more than me on this
%subject. But a) I'm not too worried about skidding if I'm travelling in a
%straight line, 

I certainly would be if you were coming towards me!

% and b) if you're worried about tyres LOCKING, well again as 
%long as it is slowing me down that's fine too.

You zoomer! It's not fine to lock the wheels of a car - on any surface other
than gravel or snow that will give you hardly any deceleration. The correct
procedure to do an emergency stop is to apply pressure initially as in normal 
braking and then increase the pressure until you are braking very hard. If you
lock the wheels you should take pressure off the brake pedal and then re-apply
pressure as before.

%In summary, I want to be in a position where I can apply maximum force to
%the brakes.

You ought to have some driving lessons - you might learn something that'll 
save someone else's life! When you've had the lessons, then you can start
telling people how to drive.

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Jason
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: rapp@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Brian Rapp)
Subject: Re: Making Urban Legends - Carjacking
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:15:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.233150.27401@unet.net.com> jrs@zippy.unet.com (John Switzer Frame 3.0) writes:
>In article <12DEC199217521364@csa3.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera) writes:
>>>> Son of wealthy furrier 
>>> He was not the son of a wealthy furrier 
>>
>>I know the truth can be changed in many ways as it becomes urban legend,
>>but a furrier transform?
>
>As someone who's two days away from a Calc final, I hope that the new Congress
>finally passes my suggestion of death by ferret for those who make horrible
>puns such as this!

As your friendly neighborhood Ferret, I'd be happy to execute any legally
pronounced sentences.  Well, maybe not *death*, but I'd surely sneak up
on the perpetrator and confuse them very badly!

--------------------------------------------------
| Brian Rapp | rapp@freezer.cns.udel.edu | Ferret | "and many times confused"
--------------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: Why Not?
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 18:08:34 GMT

In article <CINDY.92Dec14202152@solan10.solan.unit.no>, cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:
|> Bill Nelson writes:
|> >I thought it was Cindy who had a troll. I am sure that she said his name
|> >was something besides Peter.
|> 
|> I get it.  This is a way to see if i'm still around, right?

We _are_ a bit worried, you know. All this snow, and for all we know - you
may have been tempted to do the most Norwegian af all snowsports: skiing.
 
|> PS The troll's name is Stein.

Oh, how do you avoid confusing him with the pet-troll?

---
YuNoHoo  "yield for that red-nosed reindeer"
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Alzheimer's and Aluminum pots and pans
From: sietsma@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Jocelyn Sietsma Penington)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:02:58 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

In article <1992Dec13.192814.7644@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> peterm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Peter Mardahl) writes:
>From the Saturday, December 12, 1992 San Francisco Examiner, page D-1:
>
>"Pots, pans cleared of Alzheimer's blame
>
>	Don't throw away your aluminum pots and pans yet.  Because 
>aluminum has been found in brain tissue samples of Alzheimer's patients,
>the indigenous compound was thought to be a possible cause of the disorder.
>But a new study, using highly sophisticated measuring equipment, indicates
>the aluminum found in brain cells probably was due to contamination by
>airborne dust that contains aluminum, said J.P. Landsberg of Oxford 
>University.  The dust-carried contamination was found in stains routinely
>used to study brain cells.
>
>	--Chicago Tribune"
>
>  Well, there it is, guys, in print, and cited.  Aluminum is NOT in the
>brain cells of Alzheimer's victims.  Someone else may have cited this
>already, but at any rate, here it is again.

I saw the same Nature article summarized in New Scientist, but with the 
additional comment that there is still an epidemiological connection between
areas with high aluminium content in the drinking water and increased rates
of Alzheimer's disease.  Therefore there is no aluminium in the plaques in
the brain, but aluminium is not definitively in the clear. 
However aluminium cooking utensils probably are in the clear, as I've heard
of no studies showing a higher incidence of Alzheimer's among people who use
them (unlike the drinking water).

Jocelyn
--
sietsma@latcs1.lat.oz.au	I speak for no-one, you hear? No-one!
"Don't drink and legislate"
From: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
Date: 14 Dec 92 05:53:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Ed Hopper's BBS - Berkeley Lake, GA - 404-446-9462
Reply-To: harris.minter@ehbbs.gwinnett.com (Harris Minter) 

>Only problem is that this is wrong. Pluto is closer to the sun that Neptune.

Temporarily.

Thanks to Kzanol's spaceship.
     
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Mnemonics
From: system@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz (Wayne McDougall)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 18:52:27 NZST
Organization: The Code Works Limited, PO Box 10 155, Auckland, New Zealand
Keywords: KIBO = Knowledge In Bozosity Out

murray@bullwinkle.raleigh.ibm.com (Charlie Murray) writes:

> In article <TJ1JVB6w165w@codewks.nacjack.gen.nz> Wayne McDougall writes:
> 
> > I find it easier to remember that LEFT and PORT have the same number of
> > letters.
> 
> This is the one I remember.
> 
> > Cathy Kan Never Manage Her Zebra For She Punishes Him Cruely
> 
> What does this help you with?  Also, any geology students out there
> remember the memory aid for the mineral hardness scale?  I'm racking my
> brain but can't seem to recall it, and I should being a Colorado School
> of Mines graduate (class of 86).

So glad you asked (an alternative mnemonic for the same series is posted
earlier). Its the reactivity of metals. It should a A zebra, not HER zebra
(which is the same mistake I always made at school), and it should end
"silver gold". Note that unlike the earlier post it uses the symbols for the
elements rather than the initial letters of the names (and has silver gold
tacked on the end, but it does help it scan.....)


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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.drugs
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:02:43 GMT

"Stephen M. Lacy" <sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>I just want to say that the apparent knowledge of drugs on the network
>and the volume of people that have significant knowledge makes me
>utterly sick.  Is there something about computers that forces you all to
>take drugs, or do you just hang out with people who and that's how you
>get your knowledge.... anyways, you'll tell me that YOU don't really DO
>them, but I won't believe you.

Oh no, I'll tell you that I do really do them... 

>This whole discussion of LSD has gone too far and is upsetting me more
>with every post.

Oh goody, I hope I'll upset you some more.

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
From: lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu (John Lobaugh)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: ABBA on the dole?
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:37:19 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I was told at a party that the members of ABBA ended up on welfare
after their heyday in the 70s. Fact or DiscoUL? I was also told
that none of them can speak english despite the fact that they 
sing in english.

ObUL: this message cost the net more than ABBA ever made during the
70s.
-- 
John "like a roller in the ocean" lobaugh@a.chem.upenn.edu
From: pjl@robots.ox.ac.uk (Peter Lindsey)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Alzheimer's and Aluminum pots and pans
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:00:27 GMT
Organization: Robotics Research Group, Engineering Science Dept, Oxford, UK.
Originator: pjl@cressida.robots

In article <1992Dec13.192814.7644@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> peterm@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Peter Mardahl) writes:
>From the Saturday, December 12, 1992 San Francisco Examiner, page D-1:
>
>"Pots, pans cleared of Alzheimer's blame
>
>	Don't throw away your aluminum pots and pans yet.  Because 
>aluminum has been found in brain tissue samples of Alzheimer's patients,
>the indigenous compound was thought to be a possible cause of the disorder.
>But a new study, using highly sophisticated measuring equipment, indicates
>the aluminum found in brain cells probably was due to contamination by
>airborne dust that contains aluminum, said J.P. Landsberg of Oxford 
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>University.  The dust-carried contamination was found in stains routinely
>used to study brain cells.
>
>	Examination of 80 Alzheimer's brain samples with the new equipment,
>and without the stain, showed that none of them contained aluminum,
>Landsberg reported in the English science journal Nature.
>
>	--Chicago Tribune"
>
>  Well, there it is, guys, in print, and cited.  Aluminum is NOT in the
>brain cells of Alzheimer's victims. 
>
>Peter "too poor to afford stainless steel" Mardahl
>
>peterm@cory.berkeley.edu

Sorry, this doesn't count. Judy Lansberg is a FOAF. Quod Erat Voracitum.

Pete "but I've never met hsr4" Lindsey
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: schertz@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Sara Schertz)
Subject: Re: Another University Exam One
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:50:48 GMT

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>egilmour@ac.dal.ca writes:
>: 
>: Sitting in my exam today the professor beat to death that we should read
>: the entire exam first. This sparked a memory of a grade six science teacher
>: that told us naive eleven year olds to always remember to read the entire
>: exam because when he was in university they once had this really long 
>: exam that went on for over ten pages. And when he turned over to seventh
>: question on page six it started by saying "IGNORE ALL QUESTIONS BEFORE
>: THIS ONE"
>: Anyone else heard this one?

>Yep - many times. I wonder if anyone has ever turned up an actual exam
>that had this "feature"?

When I was in third grade, my teacher played a trick on us similar to this.
She gave us a list of instructions to follow, and told us to do them. The first
was "Write your name in the upper right corner" The second was, "Read all the
instructions before you begin." The rest were a bunch of silly things, do this
do that, go up to the board and write your name, etc. etc. The very last
line said "do questions 1 and 2 and ignore the rest." The whole class (myself
included) fell for it hook line and sinker.

Afterward, the teacher said she had a similar test in college, and only one
student did it right.

--sara
From: infidel@cislabs.pitt.edu (todd j. derr)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: ...film at 11...
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:35:18 GMT
Organization: university of pittsburgh cis

Thought that this was interesting enough to post here...  Perhaps a
serious case of "Imminent Death of The Net Predicted..."

todd "or can I get sued for making threats like that now?" derr

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From: mc/G=Brad/S=Hicks/OU=0205925@mhs.attmail.com
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.telecom
Subject: "The Net <tm>"?
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:39:27 GMT

There's an article in the October 15th {Electronic Mail and Micro
Systems}, which just made its way to me, about a reorganization of
Mediatel and Telecom Canada to market both of their products (and a
few other bits of this and that) under a new company name: "The Net."
 
No, I'm not making this up.  A Canadian company has just trademarked
"The Net" and its derivatives, such as The Net Mail, The Net EDI, The
Net EnvoyPost, The Net Database Gateway, and The Net Enhanced Fax.
 
This burns me up.  Anybody who's been in this industry as long as I
have, let along as long as they have, knows what The Net is; it's the
informal collective name for the Internet and all of the subnetworks
and national networks that are bridged into it.  As the saying goes,
if you can "telnet nic.mil.gov", then you're on The Net.  And now
they're taking over that name to be a proprietary trademark.  It looks
to me like a flagrant attempt to highjack the goodwill the Internet,
et al, have built up over the years and to fool the telecom-illiterati
into thinking that if they buy "The Net Mail" that they're connecting
to what we all think of as The Net.
 
I haven't been this steamed since the last time a megacorp highjacked
a common term, when IBM (in my mind, illegally) trademarked the
acronym for "personal computer."
 
Is there anything anybody can do about this?
 

mc!Brad_Hicks@mhs.attmail.com
 
 
[Moderator's Note: I think in the United States at least, there is an
organization called the Internet Trust which holds in trust certain
things to prevent their mis-use. I am not sure what all this entails,
but I think it may 'own' the copyrights for some of the network stuff.
Can anyone familiar with the Internet Trust elaborate on this?  Would
it possibly be a good idea for the Trust to copyright some of the
terms we use on a regular basis, or do they already?  The Internet
Society is another possible organization for use as a holder of those
copyrights needed to protect 'the net' from mis-use of the kind Brad
discusses.  PAT]




Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: brent@dylan.calgary.ingr.com (Brent Taylor)
Subject: crying baby in the bank
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:44:06 GMT

This one sounds a lot like a UL...

Friend of mine yesterday tells me that a FOAF saw this happen in a bank:

Woman, standing in line at bank with small child.  Small child kicking up a fuss
and generally making life hell for the woman.  Woman says:

"Quiet down or I'll tell Santa Claus what a bad boy you've been."

Child retorts with:

"And I'll tell Santa Claus that I saw you kissing Daddy's pee-pee."

Woman turns beet-red, flees bank with child.

Anyone else hear that one?



Brent

brent@dylan.calgary.ingr.com
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