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From: stewarte@sco.COM (Stewart Evans)
Subject: Tom Waits - "Bone Machine"
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:44:13 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.misc


Tom Waits - "Bone Machine" (Island, 1992)

Waits' latest continues the junkyard rhythms and tortured vocals
common to his last few albums.  In fact, that's almost all there is.
Several songs feature, besides voice and percussion, only acoustic bass 
and some sprigs of distant guitar.  The pump organ and accordion are all 
but gone, and with them the cabaret stylings.  All of which seems entirely
appropriate for the songs here, which are among the bleakest Waits has
yet recorded.  

Recurring imagery suggests that the day of reckoning is coming, and 
noone is going to be saved.  "Hell doesn't want you, and heaven is full" he 
sings in the album-opening "Earth Died Screaming".
In the very next song he reiterates:  "Hell is boiling over and heaven
is full/we're chained to the world and we all gotta pull/and we're all
gonna be just dirt in the ground".  "All Stripped Down" also invokes
the day of judgement.  "Jesus Gonna Be Here" suggests the possibility
of redemption, but unconvincingly:  "Well I've been faithful/And I've
been so good/Except for drinking/But he knew that I would."  "In The
Colloseum" invokes gory Roman spectacles.  I'm not sure I can piece
together a cohesive message from all this, but the overall effect
makes "Rain Dogs" seem like "Singin' in the Rain" by comparison.
Vocally, too, this is Waits' most extreme work to date.  The distorted
megaphone sound recurrs, as does the rasping falsetto, the latter 
combined with a lisp on "Jesus Gonna Be Here".

There are a few of Waits' more romantic ballads -- "Who Are You", 
for instance, with layered guitars, and  "A Little Rain".  These
sound slightly out of place here, and serve to throw the rest of
the album into even sharper relief.  One of my favorite albums of
the year, although those of you who thought "Frank's Wild Years"
was too extreme are advised to keep your distance.

-- Stewart
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:00:40 EST
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:57:22 -0500
From: "MICHAEL H. ALAIMO" <mha1@lehigh.edu>
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <199211171455.AA139937@ns1.CC.Lehigh.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: (no subject given!)

Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
From: mha1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHAEL H. ALAIMO)
Subject: Re: Don't Subquote, Dammit
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:55:29 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <9211160137.AA23234@whistler.sfu.ca>, Fiona_McQuarrie@sfu.ca writes:
>This request was made a few weeks ago and I have made it in the past, and I
>am going to make it once again....
>WHEN YOU ARE RESPONDING TO PREVIOUS MESSAGES, PLEASE BE BRIEF IF YOU ARE
>QUOTING FROM THEM!!!!
>So get with it, people. Don't be jerks. Be considerate of other readers
>(especially those using 1200-baud modems or limited memory capacity) and
>keep the repeating to a minimum.

>Fiona McQuarrie
>fmcquarr@sfu.ca

I don't particularly enjoy sifting through repostings of multi-page memos
either but- sometimes it's (a) necessary to repost certain things in order to
maintain some coherent thread of the conversation and (b) some users either
don't have decent editors or aren't familiar with their systems to the point
of being able to edit repostings neatly.

I daresay that these individuals should not leave the newsgroup just to please
you and your low-grade computer system.  If you don't like it, say the hell
off the newsgroup.
  
-- 

 .. .. .. .. .. .. ..
: MIKE ALAIMO        :
: Brain Surgeon      :    A couple SANGWICHES(tm)
: Rocket Scientist & :       shy of a picnic
: General Neophyte   :
 .. .. .. .. .. .. ..
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: THE WONDER STUFF
From: dmn2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DENNIS MICHAEL NOVOSEL)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:46:57 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University
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Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net

I was wondering if anyone out there was interested in a group known as the
Wonder Stuff. They are a british alternative group who in my opinion are quite
good. The thing is that everywhere I go no onee seems to know who they are.
Therefore I'm looking for some fans to shoot the breeze with about this
wonderful group.
                                     Dennis Novosel
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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:26:43 -0500
From: svh@verdix.com (Steven Hovater)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Subject: The Whole Story laserdisk FOUND!!!
Message-ID: <svh.722262369@sarge>
Organization: Verdix Corp
Apparently-To: uunet!rec-music-gaffa
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

Readers may recall my search several weeks ago for a laserdisk
version of "The Whole Story". Well - within several days of that
post, I was leafing through the laserdisk section of the 
Sound Delivery catalog (1-800-888-8574) and lo and behold there
it was listed for $26.97 - and within seconds the order placed,
and within days, it had arrived.

Very definite "hurrah!!"

sTeve

-- 
Steven V. Hovater                      (703)318-5839
Senior CASE Engineer                   
Verdix Corporation                     EMAIL: svh@verdix.com
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:32:08 EST
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:29:04 -0500
From: vanhoek@bend.ucsd.EDU (Karen van Hoek)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <9211180423.AA26166@bend.UCSD.EDU>
Subject: Reminiscence -- liking Kate in spite of SNL
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa


On the subject of how we became Kate fans: I saw her performance
on Saturday Night Live and thought it was one of the worst things
I'd ever seen.  My brother and I both thought she couldn't carry
a tune if she used a _bucket_.  Later I ran across TKI in a record
store and started looking at it out of morbid curiosity.  The lyrics
were so fascinating that I bought it, and then was amazed to find
that she can in fact sing.  

Now I'm incredibly curious as to whether the SNL performance was
one of her best, and whether I and my brother were just not used to
the high voice -- or whether she really did turn in a lousy
performance.  I've never seen it since the original airing; anyone
else seen it more recently, have an opinion?

Karen

p.s.  My brother is now a confirmed Katefan too.

x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:58:01 EST
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:48:01 -0500
From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <9211182246.AA12961@syrinx.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: Reminisce
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

Judy writes:

>I only listen through headphones!!! (well I occasionaly play some KaTe during
>dinner parties, and friends visits.)  It seems the best way to hear every bit
>of her composition, her genius in using her voice as an instrument, using
>non-traditional instruments, and creating sounds that have AS MUCH meaning as
>her lyrics. Woh, it's awesome. (does that qualify me as a Love-Hound?)
>
>BTW, on Army Dreamers, do you hear the click/clack of a bolt action rifle used
>keeping time???

That rifle bolt is probably the most prominent sound on "Army Dreamers" and
is _quite_ audible without headphones.

It was also the subject of one of the funnier (imo) r.m.g discussions of
the last few years--a discussion with provided the imagery of a soldier 
sitting in a studio holding his rifle as KaTe waved her baton.

While there are many times that headphones are nice, there is definitely
something to be said for using good, loud speakers.  It's much easier
to get a feel for the fabric of the composition, instead of the individual
components of warp and weft.

Jeff
-- 
|Jeffrey C. Burka                | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true  |
|                                |  Time for you to / Be who you are."      |
|jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu            |                         --Happy Rhodes   |
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:49:48 -0500
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: my initiation to Kate
Message-ID: <1992Nov17.204840.3677@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

In <9211161603.AA13671@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> alanb@Quality1.attmail.com writes:


>Take care,


>Alan Benjamin
>Internet: alanb@quality1.attmail.com

>p.s. - I am EXTREMELY heterosexual.

Congratulations--I'm sure it took a lot of courage to add that postscript. 
You are to be commended.

Needless to say, I'm being very sarcastic.  People, regardless of the recent
debate, I don't think (a) that it's really necessary to declare one's sexual 
orientation on the newsgroup, as most of us really don't care, and (b) that
what the world needs now is a support group for straight katefans.  We don't
make assumptions, OK?  So if you're EXTREMELY heterosexual, that's your
loss...er, I mean, *life*.  ;)
-- 
****************************************************************************
*  Andrew David Simchik *  DISCLAIMER: I said it... 			   *
*  a.k.a. Drewcifer     *  			No one else would!	   *							   *
****************************************************************************
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:19:11 EST
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:15:58 -0500
From: jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu (Jeffrey C. Burka)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <9211220515.AA04692@syrinx.umd.edu>
Subject: "As Girls Go" (Re: Gay/straight issue?)
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

Richard Caley writes:

>Obl. music&sexuality:	I like the song on 99.9F about the cross
>	dresser (or maybe transexual, I hav't worked it out). The
>	title escapes me, `As Girls Go'?.

That's one of my favorite tracks on that album of superb songs.  I, too,
have not decided whether it's about transvestism or transexuality.  It
seems that the only line that _really_ implies transexuality is "Did you
ever keep the date / with the steel side of the knife?"  The rest of
the song, though, seems to indicate crossdressing.

In another post, you make some reference to the narrator being confused or
nervous, and I really don't have the slightest idea where you get that
impression.  To me, she's bemused, in a pleasant, teasing sort of way.
"So beautiful - a damsel in distress / not exactly natural, but stunning
none the less."  Seems wonderfully tongue in cheek to me.

As a vaguely related side reference, note that SV's manager (and Shawn
Colvin's, for that matter) is Ronald Fierstein, brother of Harvey Fierstein,
the noted gay playwrite/actor/drag queen.

Jeff
-- 
|Jeffrey C. Burka                | "Show what you are / Be strong, be true  |
|                                |  Time for you to / Be who you are."      |
|jeffy@syrinx.umd.edu            |                         --Happy Rhodes   |
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:17:28 EST
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:14:14 -0500
From: news@leland.stanford.edu (Mr News)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <9211190514.AA21781@leland.Stanford.EDU>
From: starling@leland.Stanford.EDU (Susan Fernsebner)
Subject: first time
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 05:14:05 GMT

Just to add my 2 cents on an interesting thread:

I first heard Kate a few years ago at the camera store where I was 
working. A co-worker put TWS on the cd player, set to repeat over and over
again on one song, "the Dreaming."  I must have heard it at least 12 times
in a row. I think it made some of our customers nervous, but I thought it
was GREAT. And the rest is history...

A quick question: I vaguely remember hearing that "Houdini" was inspired
in part by the Tony Curtis movie-biography. Does anyone know if this is true?


-Susan


-- 

susan fernsebner                 \/    and you may ask yourself:
starling@leland.stanford.edu     /\       Well, how did I get here?           
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:02:25 EST
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:57:35 -0500
Message-ID: <9211181657.AA20388@relay2.UU.NET>
From: GWClark%Faculty%MC@athena.manchester.edu
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
Subject: (no subject given!)

I have a quick question - I accidently deleted the FAQ, so I couldn't
check in there.   What's the current FTP archive site?  The IP #
130.43.3.3 doesn't have a love-hounds dir anymore!

thanks!

Greg
GWClark@manchester.edu

x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:05:17 EST
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:01:22 -0500
From: MOYNES_R%PCSDEV.dnet@eismv3.dofasco.ca (Richard Moynes)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
X-Vmsmail-To: EISMV3::MX%"love-hounds@uunet.uu.net"
Message-ID: <00963E8B.08F2BB20.16361@eismv3.dofasco.ca>
Subject: Mail ordering Sarah Stuff
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

  Just a correction to the Sarah McLachlan Nettwerk catalog numbers woj posted
a few weeks ago.  The CD single for Vox (ext remix) / Vox (inst dub) / Into the 
Fire (ext remix) is W2-3070 and not W2-3023.  There is no W2-3023 in the 
catalog I received but there is a W1-3023 which is the 12" vinyl single for Vox.
If you're not sure about the numbers, just list the song titles you want.  I
had ordered W2-3023 along with the other singles I wanted and their mail order 
dept assumed I knew the right numbers (although I warned them they may be 
wrong) so they made up an invoice with the numbers I gave them.  The invoice 
went to the shipping people who realized that there is no W2-3023 so they 
ended up shipping W2-3063, the single for Into the Fire / Sad Clown (CBC) / 
Black (CBC) and of course this was the one single I already had.  Also, anyone 
thinking of placing an order is advised to make it clear that you want your CDs 
shipped in a sturdy box.  Mine showed up in a bubble envelope and 3 out of the
4 had their jewel cases crunched by Canada Post (anyone care to guess which
one arrived intact???  I'll give you a hint: as of noon today, it's on it's way 
back to Vancouver).  Canadian customers have the option of getting it sent COD 
for only $3 more and that way you can refuse it if you don't like the looks of 
the packaging.

  This all sounds pretty negative, so now for the good news: 

- It was only 2-1/2 weeks after mailing in my order that I had the CDs in my 
  hot little hands.

- They forgot to charge me GST!!!

- I made an excellent 90 minute tape with the Live EP, songs from CBC's Hot
  Ticket not on the EP and the live/alternate versions from the singles.

- It was worth all this hassle and more just to hear Gloomy Sunday.  Brrrrr!!!
  I get chills just thinking about it.

--

Richard Moynes                             Not speaking for
moynes_r@qis.dofasco.ca                    Dofasco Inc., Hamilton, Ont.

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Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 17:18:18 -0500
Message-ID: <9211202218.AA13759@relay2.UU.NET>
From: netwrk!pseserv1!sjw@uunet.uu.net (Steven Willis)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re:  Blade Runner
Reply-To: netwrk!pseserv1!sjw@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa


>  Fans may be interested to know that the Closing Gala at the London
>  Film Festival on Sunday 22nd November will be "Blade Runner -The
>  Director's Cut". It is described as Ridley Scott's recently completed
>  own cut of the film inwhich he has removed the voice-over narration
>  of Deckard and the "upbeat" ending and added some new footage.

Shucks.  That just made a 1 night stand at a local theatre and I missed it.
I've been searching for a couple of years for the original
soundtrack, Vangelis, but none of the record stores around here
know of it or of a way to find it.  Anybody know where I can
find it?

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x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:12:38 EST
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:07:48 -0500
From: u9031227@athmail1.causeway.qub.ac.uk
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <9211162006.AA01312@bot23>
Subject: Soda Farls
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

Hello Lovehounds!


 Being a resident of the Emerald Isle, I think it is my duty to
inform the lovehounds of the great Irish local delicacy of Soda Farls.Pleas
pay attension now....


 The recipe is as follows


    You will need:-
        1/2 lb Plane Flour
        1 oz Margarine
       1/2 Tea spoon of salt
       1/2 Tea sppon baking soda
        and buttermilk to mix.


Measure and mix dry ingredients.Cut and rub in margarine.Mix with
buttermilk ,on a floured board, to a nice dough and roll 1/4in thick.
Cut into 4 pieces.Place on hot girdle(grill).Cooks 5-7
minutes on each side and cool...
  For oven soda add 2 teaspoon of sugar.Cut into two and roll out
1/2in thick and bake in hot oven.


 

 I am sure kAte would love it! No dead animals involved!!!

 Anyway I hope you keep this recipe under your hat as it is a great
family trade secret so shusshh!



 If anyone else has any recipies for tradional dishes from their country please
tell....

                Its coming for me through the trees!!
                            Allen G

P.S Martin@kawa put me up to this!!!
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:12:14 EST
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:08:37 -0500
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: Gay/straight issue?
Message-ID: <1992Nov19.200452.2023@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Apparently-To: rec-music-gaffa@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

In <28706.9211191644@daiches.cogsci.ed.ac.uk> rjc@cogsci.edinburgh.ac.UK (Richard Caley) writes:

>In article , andrew david simchik (ads) writes:

>ads> I'm bi myself, and I think it's just because we have good
>ads> taste.... ;)

>rjc> What a straight line...

>ads> Excuse me?  Was that intended as an insult?  That's how it was taken...

>Then you have amazing powers of reinterpretation. Far beyond mine
>certainly since I can't find anything in it beyond the obvious, and
>intended, slightly smutty inuendo. I suspect you found what you were
>looking for.

Sorry about that--I did totally misinterpret that.  I was not in a good mood
at the time and was feeling mighty paranoid anyway due to a game of Assassin
we're playing on campus.  BTW, I was recently shot with a banana...oh, the
shame!

Innuendo now understood and appreciated!  Sorry for the confusion.


>Obl. music&sexuality:	I like the song on 99.9F about the cross
>	dresser (or maybe transexual, I hav't worked it out). The
>	title escapes me, `As Girls Go'?.

I still haven't sat down to determine if that's solely about CD's.  I have
to listen closely and read carefully...it's so easy to misinterpret Suzanne
Vega, as well!

>--
>rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk			_O_
>					 |<

-- 
****************************************************************************
*  Andrew David Simchik *  DISCLAIMER: I said it... 			   *
*  a.k.a. Drewcifer     *  			No one else would!	   *							   *
****************************************************************************
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:31:20 EST
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:28:23 -0500
Subject: just a joke
From: lionhart@netlink.cts.COM (Jackie Zucconi)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <P11cuB3w165w@netlink.cts.com>
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

Two guys I work with were gently ribbing me for liking Kate's music and 
this is what they came up with:
  Mark: Do they record Kate Bush belching?
  Larry: Yeah, but they call it Tori Amos.
Well, I htought it was kinda funny 8)
                    Kateness,
                          Liionheart

--                    
INTERNET:  lionhart@netlink.cts.com (Jackie Zucconi)
UUCP:   ...!ryptyde!netlink!lionhart
NetLink Online Communications * Public Access in San Diego, CA (619) 453-1115
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Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:13:26 -0500
Via: uk.ac.edinburgh.cogsci; Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:00:27 +0000
From: rjc@cogsci.edinburgh.ac.UK
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Message-ID: <28729.9211191659@daiches.cogsci.ed.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: All that music stuff.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa


In article , andrew david simchik (ads) writes:

ads> Sorry...I was treading on uncertain ground as I am not as intimately
ads> familiar with Frankie as I am with many of the others.

Boy were you on the right continent :-).

Everyone, and I mean grandmothers, MPs, hermits living in caves in the
northern isles, _everyone_ over here (a) can hum all the parts to
Relax and (b) will kill anyone who attempts to commit such a crime.
There has never been such a hyped band, Madonna is shy and retiring by
comparison. 

ads> I was probably listening to other music...I'm 18, you know...I
ads> don't know when they were popular 

Tainted Love was 1982/3 if I count right.

--
rjc@cogsci.ed.ac.uk				_O_
						 |<
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:39:38 -0500
From: "N. Richard Caldwell" <nrc@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us>
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: Gaffa Artists on Laser Disc
Message-ID: <1992Nov15194928nrc@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us>