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From: spray@convex.com (Rob Spray)
Subject: Re: Mars 103.1 is dead
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:06:53 GMT
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <Btx3wv.MCC@acsu.buffalo.edu> bsk@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian S. Kazmierczak) writes:


>CFNY in Toronto is going toward "classic rock". It's almost unbearable to 
>listen to when they go from the Smart E's to a 70s rock song to 808 State.

Guess you wouldn't like my shows then.  The other week I played "Red River
Rock" by Johnny and the Hurricanes (from 1962) between something from
Saffron and G.T.O.!

--Rob "Sevrin", KNON 89.3FM Dallas

--spray@convex.com (real job)


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: bt178@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David James)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Model 500 again...
Date: 1 Sep 1992 13:52:09 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


 
There *is* a new Model 500 album reviewed in the August/Sept
issue of Street Sounds. Out on Apollo records.


-- 

***************************
bt178@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: pseudo-rave in Youngstown, OH
Date: 4 Sep 92 18:23:18 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

In Your Face Bass and Ecstatic present

            GROOVE TO MOVE
                 Nite

the rave experience comes to Youngstown
Friday Sept 18       Cedar's (downtown)

Featuring:
     the most absolute groovin'-est
techno/house/rave music shaking the floor
all night long complete with special
appearances from:
     Body Release (columbus, oh)
     Big Engine (new castle, pa)

Plus on the turntables spinning heavy doses
of killer rave and underground bass between
stage shows: D.j.EFFy

the music flows at 10pm - groove 'til 2:30 straight

we'll take your mind outta here!       216-743-6560


[note- not a real rave, but definitely worth going to
 if you're in the area, especially since (watch out,
 shameless plug coming) Body Release are playing -MB]


Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: st10t@rosie.uh.edu (Bloo Square)
Subject: Re: Mixing Music
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 23:38:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.203804.2670@u.washington.edu>, pauly@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sky Cries Mary) writes...
> 
>I do remixes of a lot of stuff for my umm.  radio show.  But i don't have much problems.  You have much more equipment than I do.  Sometimes I'll take breaks from the music and insert a sample of something (such as a yosemite sam sample about wet mice) a
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>there by accident.
> 
> 

This is a good point:

What is the law on copyrights of samples.  Like can I make a
techno song on my keyboard and sample in Flavor Flav's
"Yeaaaaaahhh  Boyeeeeee"  without having to get permission??

How about "Hoo.. yeah.. Hoo.. yeah" from Rob Base's "It takes two"?

How about stuff from television shows (NBC,ABC,CBS), excluding
major motion pictures?

How about major motion pictures?  Such as Information Society's
samples of Star Trek movies... I know they had help from Leonard
Nimoy's son... but did they need copyright privileges/perission?

Thanks for any input/output on this topic!
Z
From: jna@silver.lcs.mit.edu (god in three persons)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Making Music, was Re: Mixing Music
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:20:43 GMT
Organization: We Take What We Want, Inc.

rej@sal.wisc.edu (Randy Jones) wrote about the aphex twin:

>five grand. And I'd rather dance to a raw, innovative track (Aphex
>Twin)  than a polished, homogenized one (Lords of Acid) any night
>of the week.

I disagree. the Aphex Twin is smothered with effects and with tons and tons
of 'verb. He has an amazingly high production quality. listen to the single
again.

 -- John
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Strider)
Subject: Re: Mixing Music
Organization: The Banzai Institute
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:05:29 GMT

lombardo@cwis.unomaha.edu (Marc Lombardo) writes:
: Would someone give me some ideas and tips on mixing music without using
: a record player?  I would like to avoid using vinyl as much as possible

I think the main prob with mixing without turntables & vinyl is that you
can't control the speed of a CD.  Even if you could the digitals wouldn''t
do the same thing with the pitch(es) that you would want.  Any mixing that's
done involves slowing/speeding up of the LP to get the tempos synced ...
CD's just don't hack it.  UNLESS... you would sample the entire song and
slow it down this way.  Trouble is this takes mega/terrabytes of memory of
you're going have any semblance of a repertoire of music.


Steve J. White		|	Reality is for those who can't handle	|
aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu|	roleplaying games.			|
skeptic@large@9600bps	|		- t-shirt at GenCon		|
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: Re: the KLF in boulder (WHAT?!!!)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:50:08 GMT

stevyn (with a y) e prothero writes:
>the KLF & Wanda D. play at the marquee this thurs sept 3rd.
>i mite try and geta  tape recorder in and tape the show...
>is it recommended? has anyone seen KLF? good shows? or should
>i just relax and enjoy the show? ok BOULDER COLORADO its goona
>be phun....

Last I and EVERYBODY else heard (even the people at KLF Communications
and everybody they work with), Bill and Jimmy had dropped off the face
of the Earth, leaving the music business.  Now they turn up to do a gig
in Boulder?  WHAT'S GOING ON?!!!!

Mike
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
From: oivindi@dhhalden.no (OIVIND IDSO)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Calling all Norwegians (well, almost)
Keywords: Oslo, 18. and 19. September at the "Nye Sardines"
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:32:27 GMT
Organization: Ostfold College

Heallo!

NEWSFLASH...

BIOSPHERE (Geir Jenssen) will be playing live at Norsk Rockeklubb's (!?) ten-
year-anniversary at the "Nye Sardines" friday 18. September.

And, the next day, saturday 19. September, a new House-club will open at the 
same place ("Nye Sardines"), and there will be a "Horsepower"-party to open 
it.

"Horsepower" is of course reflecting the artists which will be appearing; 
they're all signed to R&S Records: MENTAL OVERDRIVE (Per Martinsen)
                                   BIOSPHERE (Geir Jenssen)
                                   CJ BOLLAND
                                   RAVESIGNAL.

Be there!

Oivind (oivindi@sofus.dhhalden.no)

*****************************************************************
*                         * Disclaimer: These are the opinions  *
* "Potatoe"  - Dan Quayle *             of me, myself and I.    *
*                         *             Ergo, not my employer.  *
*****************************************************************
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Re: The music is the drug!
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:01:46 GMT

In article <guest.78@dhhalden.no> guest@dhhalden.no (.GJEST) writes:
>Excuse me, but what's with this drug debate?
>
>Isn't the music supposed to be the drug? Or has this become a cliche in 
>the world of E and other psychedelic flashbacks?
>
>If you have to take drugs to like the music, well, then I'm sorry on your
>behalf. To me, putting on an LFO or Model 500 record is just as ecstatic
>as any unnatural stimulance.
>
nothing personal..
i agree that i enjoy the music a lot and i spend many weekends 
listening to some great house tunes and being very happy
but music is not the ONLY drug out there

the reason drugs are being talked about is because a LOT of people
involved in the rave scene do drugs...

is this bad? hell no... i dont like a lot of drugs,  but i do like some
if you get off on music, great, if you get off on acid, great
just be nice and friendly and it really doesnt matter
you are both high on something and you are happy together
enjoy it
--
If we were still going barefoot the world would be a
much softer place.
				   ,
IravethereforeIam Prod.           dana watanabe
From: pgoldman@terapin.com (Pete Goldman)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Mixing Music
Date: 23 Aug 92 18:31:49 PST
Organization: BBS

hmmm... your really gonna have a tuf time with the equipment you have... if
you're REALLY set on not using records (which is thee standard for techno)
you're going to have to get a double cd player with variable timing...(this is
not going to be cheap)..... as far as I know they are catching on in the
"digital age"..... most have about an 8% speed variability for mixing & getting
beats to match when switching songs.... wish I had one.... I think they start
at about $1200.00  there's an article in the June/July issue of STREETSOUND
that talks all 'bout em....(by the way.. if you havn't noticed  am not a DJ...
this is all hypothetical   =)     All u DJ's out there... how did you get your
start?  Just by the equipment & screw around 'till ya got decent?..... or were
you trained by an older and wiser master of the art? hehe  
 pEacE & rave on..
From: bsherman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Brian C. Sherman)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: adrenaline 92
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:40:14 GMT
Organization: UB

haan35681@oswego.oswego.EDU (EDWARD G. FARRELL) writes:

>i was at my first rave sat in toronto put on by chris shepard and a promotor
>what an amazing thing to see it had moby live among others

I was there too, and have a question for those who made it:  Who were the
bands and the DJs besides moby?  I had a great time; really loved the trip
room they set up in the basement and the brain machines on the balcony and
the lasers and wow and all that.  Blew me away.  Any experienced ravers there?
Is this what it's usually like?  Or was this -more intense-?  I was wiped out
the next day.  I still can't believe I partied in the Masonic hall! FNORD.

Is this promoter known for putting on gigs like this often? or was this more of
a one-shot deal?
                            -Brian, no longer a rave-virgin
bsherman@acsu.buffalo.edu  v187p6pl@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel M. DuBois)
Subject: Re: Mixing/DJ'ing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 19:53:00 GMT

lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

>mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown) writes:

>In the larger scheme of things buying a dual-deck Denon DJ CD player like
>Pete's doesn't cost a hell of a lot more than a pair of 1200s. Don't get
>me wrong . . . my collection is split about 50/50 vinyl vs. CD, and I
>don't plan to stop buying LPs and 12"s until they're completely
>unavailable or I die, whichever comes first.  But DJing with CDs today
>isn't anywhere near as tough as it was five years ago.

>So you can't scratch.  Big deal.   

>--
>Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

Yeah, who scratches techno anyway?

-Dan
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines)
Subject: Re: how much jon loves me and my breakbeat techno <opus III>
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:23:28 GMT

i send a personal reply to jon about him being god's personal DJ and here it 
comes again. i am sorry. i like to have some type of peace about who likes what
music, what techno is best, how far behind you are compared to me, big music is
bad music, etc...

i don't like sesame's treat (never had, never will) and i am personally 
disappointed it pac man is indeed richard james.. i didn't enjoy it.
(just so you know my feelings about that)

you may be a brilliant DJ and an incredible techno creator but i am not gonna 
dog you cause you like harder techno than what i do. i try to respect that you 
man personally enjoy your favorite techno which is obviously the inverse of 
mine, and that is just fine with me.

sometimes, the world is just plain silly. i refuse to waste anymore bandwidth 
about whose techno is better after this posting. maybe you will too.

the world is burning up in flames around us...

sines

respond >> tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
           todd sines 614.299.9529 384 e17th st columbus, oh 43201
           body release (live techno), krushin invisible clothing and ...
-- 
respond >> tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
           todd sines 614.299.9529 384 e17th st columbus, oh 43201
           body release (live techno), krushin invisible clothing and ...
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ddm@hamby.tx.ncsu.edu (David Mann)
Subject: Re: Techno albums out?
Organization: North Carolina State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 02:58:36 GMT

Sorry if this has already been discussed but aren't Altern-8 supposed to
put out an EP or LP?  Anyone have the name and what label it will be out
on?

--
Better not take a dog on the next space shuttle flight because if he
sticks his head outside the window his face might burn up.
                                                   -- A Deep Thought
David_Mann@ncsu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: poepping@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Todd W Poepping)
Subject: Milw Rave
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:55:00 GMT

just wanted to get some response from those ravers out there who went
to HUMNAITY IN THE MACHINE AGE.

FULL HOUSE PRODUCTIONS was invlolved and i know they put on quality stuff so...


please send me your thoughts on last saturdays event,  how was :


			the sound
			the visuals
			the smart drinks
			the energy level
			the dj's
			the music they played

thanx in advance.


Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: poepping@miller.cs.uwm.edu (Todd W Poepping)
Subject: Re: Upcoming Milwaukee/Chicago Raves
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:01:29 GMT


Humanity in the Machine Age  was put on by FULL HOUSE PRODUCTIONS and
Drop Bass Network   helped out
so i say to you  disc@quads  (jerry from pure-x)

give credit where credit is due.  FULL HOUSE has helped put on every one of
Drop Bass's events.    and without this help  Drop Bass would not be 
what it is today.    
		

			dj acid boy todd p
			dj Toby Tyler
			E-FEX
			FULL HOUSE PRODUCTIONS
			GRAF-X
			Innovative Record Source

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: rlippert@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Ryan Jon Lippert)
Subject: Re: Anyone go to THE FINAL CALL: How was it?
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 07:01:56 GMT

I think the WHOLE Chicago scene totally sucks!! EVERYONE is just out for the
money!! No-one cares whether or not anyone has any fun!! Its turned out
just to be a MOBIL Club! Everyone one has an attitude and is just there
because 'Its the thing to do!' I really sick of it. The only reason I go
is because most of the time I get in free :) I wouldn't wanna pay. A few
weeks ago we went down there to goto one. Got out tickets went to the
place. IT WAS IN SUCH A BAD NEIBORHOOD WE DIDN'T GET OUT OF OUR CAR!!! We
were scared!! really! So we went back the the map point,bitched told them
they better get their act together, And left! The funny thing is (Well not
really funny) is that one of the promoters(Or someone connected) was actually
HELP up at GUN point and was told to give up his cash! About 4000 worth!!
Maybe they learned their lessi. The scene up here in Milwaukee isn't too bad
there has only been I think like 4 or 5 so far, And they have been pretty
good. For the most part everyone is nice,and is there to enjoy themselves
I really hope that it stays that way!! We'll see ya!! BTW I'll be at
Technopolis,We'll see ya there!!

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: thiel@hardy.u.washington.edu (me me me me...)
Subject: Faves for Raves
Summary: What are your favorite bands/tracks/albums?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 00:58:55 GMT

  I wanna buy a few good techno/rave albums too get a taste of the music.... can anyone mail their favorites to me?  I have but a little $$ to spend but i'd like too hear favorite albums and tracks.... I've picked up that Orb is well loved  by all.... :)

thanks..... 

Thiel the Walrus                           thiel@u.washington.edu



Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: jondr@sco.COM (Desi The Three-Armed Wonder Comic)
Subject: Re: Mixing Music
Reply-To: jondr@sco.com
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:56:56 GMT


I am not lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble).  I didn't say:
>rmills@controls.ccd.harris.com (Richard C. Mills) writes:
>> and it sounded pretty good.  The MAC isn't too bad, but I think the
>> Amiga 3000 is still a better machine for doing this type of stuff. 
>
>Twitch does all their mixing on a severely cranked-up Mac II setup, and I
>haven't noticed any deficiencies in their work as a result.

speaking as a more or less official member of the twitch team, i can say
with authority that it isn't the mac that determines the quality of the
sound.  rather, it's the digital audio board that we bought from
digidesign.  it has its own on-board CPU, RAM and DSP.  if you could design
a slot and software that allowed it to plug into an IBM PC, it would have
the exact same sound quality.

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Why kill time when you can kill yourself?
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel M. DuBois)
Subject: Re: Mixing Music
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:17:04 GMT


Whoa! Mega tips.. thanx alot!  

I suppose Ill see alot more in the next 30 articles on the subject...
From: haan35681@oswego.oswego.EDU (EDWARD G. FARRELL)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: adrenaline 92
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:38:02 GMT
Organization: oswego state

i was at my first rave sat in toronto put on by chris shepard and a promotor
what an amazing thing to see it had moby live among othersif anyone in the 
area should here of more raves in the T.O. area please post info i'm away at 
school but would travel to see another. for those who are interested no i 
didn't take any E or lsd and still had an amazing time

see you at the next one 
coool-E
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: st10t@Rosie.UH.EDU
Subject: Re: LSD reply to replies.
Reply-To: st10t@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:01:13 GMT

>and most definitely e-ing (x-ing for all you Americans).

All this time I was wondering why people were transforming x->e
Before reading this group, I had always heard of x as x and e
as the most common letter of the alphabet.
	
	X is much more symmetrical don't you think?

Avi
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Zippy the Pinhead at a rave
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:52:31 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University

The latest batch of Zippy The Pinhead comic strips has one strip in
which Zippy and Griffy talk about raves: "Tune In, Turn On, Tech Out".


Griffy: "Zippy.. You look a little more BLISSED OUT than usual.. what
happened?  Was it a particularly SYMBOLIC rerun of "GREEN ACRES"?"
Zippy: "I've been RAVED!"
G: "You mean you attended a PSYCHEDELIC teen FREAKOUT in a big, empty
WAREHOUSE somewhere on LONG ISLAND?"
Z: "There was NUDITY... and a brain machine... I saw RAINBOWS... and
now I understand TOM BROKAW!"
G: "Yeh.. there's all this interest among kids today in th' SIXTIES..
I guess there's only so much BLACK you can WEAR!"
Z: "I was fit to be TIE-DYED!"
G: "I can't figure out if 'RAVES' are a healthy change.. or just th'
next soon-to-be-exploited extension of DISCO FEVER.."
Z: "My occipital lobes are THIRSTY!  I need another SUPERSONIC CYBERTONIC!!"


Mike
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Xref: sparky alt.rave:2801 rec.music.industrial:10013
From: douellet@beach.csulb.edu (Daniel Ouellette)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Mars 103.1 is dead
Date: 1 Sep 92 22:16:22 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

In article <RSLAU.92Sep1135344@tarazed.usc.edu> rslau@usc.edu (Robert Lau) writes:
>Died last night, 31Aug/1Sep 92 at midnight.  They're now Variety or
>some such nonsense, sounds like a mish mash of every radio station on
>the dial.  Wonder where Eagle and Freddy will go now?

  I heard from one of my friends who is a pretty good friend of Egil that they
are looking into the _possibilty_ of buying a very small/weak station that
may be going out of buisness soon. That's not to say that this station exists,
rather that this is what they are looking for. They would then start a new 
Techno/Alternative radio station. I would expect this to happen for a while 
though. I wish all of DJ's from MARS good luck. I taped the last 2 hours of 
it's existance. They basically played a 2 hour megamix with only 2 comercial
interruptions (that I can remember).

>
>*sigh*, the only listenable station in L.A., another victim of ratings.

 And a station manager without any foresight or ambition besides the almighty
dollar.

-- 
AlienSexFiend*Bauhaus*Curve*DepecheMode*Erasure*FrontLineAssembly*Gruesome- *
*	Daniel Ouellette       | 	 "People need to be schocked"	    *
*   douellet@beach.csulb.edu   |		     -Me	   	    *
Twosome*HumanDrama*JesusJones*KMFDM*LordsOfAcid*MLwtThrillKillKult*NitzerEbb*
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: cxy@athena.mit.edu (Brocco Lee)
Subject: Re: Mixing/DJ'ing
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:43:50 GMT

In article <Btnr8D.71n@news.cso.uiuc.edu> dmd39855@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Daniel M. DuBois) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>
>>So you can't scratch.  Big deal.   
>
>>--
>>Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
>
>Yeah, who scratches techno anyway?
>
>-Dan

I definitely do.  Check it out, so much techno is based on samples
that it's always fun to add more.  A lot of hip hop technique fits in
well with breakbeat techno.  Plus it makes DJ'ing so much more fun
than just beat mixing.  Good technique, when properly applied, is
always appreciated.

Benzo
--
   C.Y. Lee						  
   cxy@athena.mit.edu
   Massachusetts Institute of Techno 
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ghond@acca.nmsu.edu (ICE-9)
Subject: Re: Making Music, was Re: Mixing Music
Organization: New Mexico State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 04:42:16 GMT

Man, I hate that happyface EQ.

-- Stephen
-- 
stephen white			| the priests and the friars
ghond@sloth.nmsu.edu		| approach me in dread
				| because i still love you,
				| my love, and you're dead - not s. o'connor