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From: tigger@cheshire.oxy.edu (Samuel Thomas III)
Subject: Isiah's status.
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:17:28 GMT

I know that he was hurt in the game with the Clippers (someone inadvertently
kneed him in his leg.) I noticed that he sat out in the loss to Denver (along
with Rodman) due to injury.  Does anyone know more of his condition?
	E-mail will be fine...

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From: stwombly@cs.ulowell.edu (Stephen P. Twombly)
Subject: Poll results so far.......(not a repost)!
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:10:56 GMT

As of 2:10 PM EST......................

(1) = First Team           (2) = Second Team

Guards                     Forwards                  Centers
------                     --------                  -------

Michael Jordan 40 (1)      Charles Barkley   41 (1)  David Robinson   36 (1)
John Stockton  30 (1)      Karl Malone       33 (1)  Patrick Ewing    28 (2)
Clyde Drexler  26 (2)      Scottie Pippen    22 (2)  Akeem Olajuwon    9
Tim Hardaway   23 (2)      Larry Johnson     19 (2)  Shaquile O'Neill  5
Mark Price     14          Chris Mullin      18      Brad Daugherty    2
Kevin Johnson   8          Dominique Wilkins 12      Robert Parish     2
Reggie Lewis    4          Shawn Kemp         9      Greg Kite 
Mitch Ritchmond 2          Danny Manning      4      Alonzo Mourning
Mark Jackson    2          Larry Nance        2      Dwayne Schnitzius
Magic Johnson   2          Kurt Rambis        2     
Glen Rice       2          Derrick Coleman
Rex Chapman                Sean Elliott
Kendall Gill               Xavier McDaniel
Joe Dumars                 Otis Thorpe
Drazen Petrovic            Jimmy Jackson
LLoyd Daniels              Johnny Newman
Dale Ellis                 Detlef Schrempf
Dan Majerle                Larry Bird
Michael Williams           Mark Randall
Terry Porter               Grant Long
Mark Macon                 
Pace Mannion               
Ricky Pierce
Lance Blanks
Mike Iuzzolino
Chris Jackson
Isiah Thomas
Derek Harper
Nate McMillan

MVP
---
Michael Jordan    18
Charles Barkley    7
David Robinson     4
Cylde Drexler      2
Karl Malone
Akeem Olajuwon
Kurt Rambis
Larry Johnson
Mark Price 
Pace Mannion
Nate McMillan

Keep those picks commin'!!!
stwombly@cs.ulowell.edu

Votes Excepted until Wednesday at Midnight..Final results on Thursday!

Vote For 4 Guards, 4 Forwards, 2 Centers and the MVP
From: 6500alh@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Archie Holmes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Hornet's Schedule in Dec.
Date: 17 Nov 92 05:41:07 GMT
Distribution: rec

Can someone please send this to me.  Thanks in advance.

Archie
From: stan@cad628.intel.com (Stephen Tan )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Need stats for Sixers vs. Celts on 11/13
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:32:51 GMT
Organization: Intel Corporation,  Design Technology

Can anyone help??? I need the Steals and Turnover stats
for the 11/13 game between the Sixers and Celtics in order
to complete the first week results for a league I am in.

Thanks in Advance

Steve
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 01:17:42 MST
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Subject: Re: Blazers are team to beat in west - so far
Distribution: usa
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah
From: jhak@sofya.math.byu.edu (Justin Hakanson)

In article <1992Nov15.064937.14707@berlioz.nsc.com> werstln@berlioz.nsc.com (Michael Werstlein) writes:
>
>After watching tonight's blazer game against the warriors, it looks
>as though the blazers are the best team in the western conference
>after one week of play.  Although 3 of the 4 games have been at
>home, 3 of their wins were against Phoenix, Cleveland, and Golden State.

I'm very happy with the way they're playing.  The bench is deeper than it
was last year, and things are looking very good for them...

>Duckworth has looked very good in the post in Portland's first 4 games.
>And Terry Porter was on fire tonight.  He scored 40 points, including
>25 in the fourth quarter.  He was also 7-7 on three pointers!

I've heard that Duckworth came into camp in the best shape he's been in in
years.  He still seems inconsistent scoring 20+ points for a couple games,
and under 10 for others, but it seems he is trying more.

>It looks as though Drexler is still bothered a little bit by his knee,
>but he is still great.

Didn't he score 31, still?

>Portland has yet to play Utah, but since they have lost 2 games at
>home, they are not yet playing great ball.

They may be getting their play back together after beating the Clippers by
20(?) points the other night, and it's still early in the season, so we'll
just have to wait and see.  Maybe Porter will have another '92 Western
Confrence Finals Game 2 against the Jazz...  We can only hope...  :)

Overall, I've been very impressed with the Blazers play so far this season,
and their bench is doing VERY well.  Mario Elie is a real contributer off
the bench, and Cliff Robinson is still getting better.  I believe this is
a championship team, here...

>Mike Werstlein
>Go Blazers!!!!

Justin.
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From: vjrao@leland.Stanford.EDU (Venodhar Julapalli Rao)
Subject: Re: Questions
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 00:07:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.194930.11303@midway.uchicago.edu> hh15@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>1) Has any player in the NBA history EVER had a quadruple double?  I
>mean double digits in any four of the following categories: points,
>rebounds, steals, assists, blocks (and maybe turnover? :) 
>
>2) Can anybody help me on the following: I would like to see the
>ranking of NBA teams in terms of their average heights, by which I
>mean the average of all players' heights weighted by each's average
>playing time in a NBA year.  How 'bout last year, let's say?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Harry

Hakeem Olajuwon had a quadruple double in points, blocks, rebounds, and 
assists a couple of years ago; he also had a near quadruple double in 
the same year -- unofficially, it was thought to be a quad-double,  but
the official stats gave him only 9 assists instead of 10... I think there
are three other players who have also had recorded quad-doubles.
From: jblixt@neon.cdc.com (Jon Blixt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Knicks: What happened??
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:18:15 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: RUBL  Commish- Real Usenet Basketball League

In article <98521@netnews.upenn.edu} satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
}Hi,
}
}Last year Pat Riley took over as the coach for a team of mostly underachievers.
}He stated he wanted to use his first year to see what he can do with the team.
}In the process, teh Knicks tied for first in the Atlantic and gave Chicago
}convulsions through the playoffs.  This year was supposed to be the one where
}they win one.  SO what happened???  All the underachieving ex-Kicks who left
}or were traded are looking great: Gerald Wilkins is burning up Cleveland,
}Mark Jackson is doing great at L.A. and X-man is making the highlight films
}at Boston.  Meanwhile, the great load of talent that Riley has assembled are
}doing diddly-squat on offense.  What's wrong with this picture??
}
}
Nothing, your just looking at the wrong column.  Individual stats are nice,
but what about wins.  Cleveland isn't setting the world on fire and the
Clippers and Celtics have taken at least two steps backward from last year
thus far.  I'd say the Knicks shouldn't worry too much just yet.


}satish nair
}an impatient fan

-Commish
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From: steinm2d@serss0 (Daniel Steinmetz)
Subject: Re: Thanks
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:07:49 GMT

I read in hear about a C program for the nba schedual. my question is where can
I get a copy of it. 

		Dani Hoops.
From: twete@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Robert Twete)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Why Golden State will be the next dynasty.
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:15:20 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <102524@bu.edu> kpho@acs.bu.edu (Kevin Pho) writes:
>Reasons why Golden State will be THE basketball team of the 90's.
>  
>1. Ability to Score at Will.

The ability to score at will has rarely been an attribute of championship
teams in any sport. Great defense has won more games in playoff contests
than great offense. 

RT
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From: dward@ducvax.auburn.edu (Dawn Ward     )
Subject: Craig Hodges - Where did he go??
Organization: Auburn University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:13:11 GMT

Does anyone know where Craig Hodges (formerly of the Bulls) go??
From: mlsa@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MICHAEL LAUREN SHERMAN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: A Basic Question
Date: 21 Nov 92 18:24:53 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <cf3Ovki00WB=MB1I1W@andrew.cmu.edu>, rf1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (Raymond Cr
aig Feeck) writes:
>Concerning the naming of basketball teams, there appear to be three
>types of teams.
>
>Type 1.  Obvious location oriented naming schemes.  These names are used
>to support the home of the city they represent.
>
>Philadelphia 76ers (Centennial stuff)
>Miami Heat
>Dallas Mavericks
>Houston Rockets (NASA does work down there.  Fits in well with Astros)
>Phoenix Suns
>Detroit Pistons (Car industry, Okay, actually they used to be the
>Fort-Wayne          Zoellner Pistons and actually won a World
>Championship, I believe)
>Orlando Magic ( Disney ?)
>Boston Celtics (any one else know this one?  Just a lot of Irish in Boston?)
>Denver Nuggets (gold mining city.  caught a gold rush 10 years after Cal.  )
>San Antonio Spurs (old west)
>Washington Capitals
>
>Type 2
>The Vicious animal or characature naming scheme
>Charlotte Hornets
>Minnesota Timberwolves (also sort of a regional name)
>Chicago Bulls (Perhaps from the packing plants, but that's only guess)
>Milwaukee Bucks (okay, not too viscious, and actually quite regional)
>Atlanta Hawks
>New Jersey Nets (actually a basketball term, but same idea)
>Cleveland Cavaliers
>Golden State Warriors (formerly of Philadelpiha)
>Portland Trailblazers (also has northwest significance, i.e Lewis and Clark
>
>
>
>Type Three.  Teams that have moved  Mostly western teams.
>L.A. Lakers  (formerly Minnesota, land of 10000 lakes)
>L.A. Clippers (Formerly San Diego.  Lots of boats in San Diego)
>Utah Jazz (Either New Orleans or Saint Louis.   I forget which)
It was New Orleans

>
>
>
>
>No clue
>Indiana Pacers
Indy 500 reference probably
>New York Knickerbockers ( I used to know this)
There was a Knickerbocker Club in NYC
>Sacramento Kings (formerly Kansas City)
Former connection with royals maybe.
>
>Craig Feeck
>
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From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: A Basic Question
Summary: Close, but...
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:16:40 GMT

In article <By6LwD.Gw@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> whitesel@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Daniel Whitesell) writes:
>In article <cf3Ovki00WB=MB1I1W@andrew.cmu.edu> Raymond Craig Feeck <rf1o+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>Concerning the naming of basketball teams, there appear to be three
>
>	*stuff deleted*
>
>>No clue
>>Indiana Pacers
>>New York Knickerbockers ( I used to know this)
>>Sacramento Kings (formerly Kansas City)
>
>Originaly Cincinnatti Royals,  Cincy often refered to as The Queen City.

True, but before that they were the Rochester Royals.  They moved to
Cincinnati in the early '60s and left in 1971...

--PLH (bring back the Cincinnati Gardens to the NBA, dammit)


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From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Why Golden State will be the next dynasty.
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:40:03 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Nov20.194833.29209@oracle.us.oracle.com> rpierce@oracle.com (Russell Pierce) writes:
>	A little harsh on Mullin aren't we??  You say he's averaging
>	~3 boards a game.  You need to remember that after 6-8 games,
>	statistics are very misleading.  Also hoop is a team game,

True, he did get 8 boards in one game, but how any 6 7" guy can play
44 and 38 minutes in a game with 0 rebounds is beyond me, Hardaway
got 8 in the 4th quarter recently.

>	anyone.  As far as rebounding, where's Gatling, Alexander and Hill.

Gatling is riding the bench, and Alexander is with his family because his
brother was murdered in Detroit. Hill is 2nd to Owens in rebounding while
averagin under 30 mins. a game.
>	schedule so far-lots of tough teams they've faced.  Lastly, that
>	crap about 'not being capable to pass the ball" is bullshit.

Thats not what I wrote. I said its "not because he is incapaable of passing,
he is unwilling to pass". Mullins is a great passer, touch passes, no looks,
behind the back, he has them all, but he simply is not giving up the ball
as much as he did earlier in his career, this shows up in his assist totals.


>	him because he's your favorite.  Your post is biased and IMHO,

Funny I thought I mentioned that Hardaway was not defending like he used
to and Nellie needed to get on him because his head was too big? Also,
Nelson seems to think that playing Owens at point helps this team
because "then we can have Timmy shooting jumpers off screens", which
anybody knows is not Hardaways strength. Timmy is struggling with his
shot, but apparently Nelson wants him shooting those jumpers, because
he has said so publicly, he also says that is why he likes Jennings and
Tim in together, so Timmy can "look for his jumper". But Nelson is the
coach so I should just keep my keyboard shut.

>	don't like it-tough, but don't shred on one player for a poor
>	team start.  Five guys are on the floor at all times and it 

I pointed out that Mullin is not a franchise player and never will be,\
the problem is the Warriors think he is. They think they can win a 
title by making one more trade for a decent player(now they are talking
about Rodman again), without breaking up the nucleus of the team, I
dont agree. Mullin is the most marketable player, and the most replaceable
of the "big three".




Russ Smith
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From: cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Who are the worst players in nba?
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:30:20 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <Bxxspy.Ct3@fiu.edu> steinm2d@serss0 (Daniel Steinmetz) writes:
>One of the worst players in my opinion is Dudley from NJN, in fact he 
>probably gets the most minutes for such dismal performance.

You have got to be kidding!  Last year, he ranked among the league
leaders in blocked shots per minute and rebounds per minute.  (Top
15 in both categories, if I'm not mistaken.)  Granted, he's
something of a liability on offense, and I wouldn't want him on the
floor in the closing minutes of a close game (everybody foul
Dudley!!  Make him shoot free throws!!), but worst in the league?
No way!

Tony
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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Shaq should have been on the Olympic Team...
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 16:00:27 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1992Nov19.110142.10354@abo.fi> MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
>super egos. Shaq was the first player chosen in the draft and thus deserved to
>go to the Olympics.
>
>MARCU$

But in C.L.'s defense, he was the College Player Of The Year, and thus 
deserved to go.  CPOY is supposed to denote the collegiate ranks best player.
Though I think Shaq will have a better pro career, I think C.L has the
possibility to be an AllStar in this league...



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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Rookie Impressions
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:01:16 GMT

dvasilef@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David Vasileff) writes:

>I believe that Keith "Mister" Jennings doesn't have any prior NBA experience,
>but he may have sneaked in a few games last year.  I recall that he was on
>the Pacer's pre-season roster last year, but didn't make the team.  If you
>wonder why he's there, it's because all the other rookies haven't done much
>of anything yet.  The 1st teamers have played very strong so far, but the
>2nd teamers have played only marginally better than the rest of the rookie
>crop.
	
	Jennings is a pure rookie.  He may have tried out last year, but he
	ended up booting for Germany, and played there last season.  He has
	never appeared in an NBA regular season game until this season.

	Jazzy J
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From: grubin@rap.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Subject: BOXSCORE: Denver 131 Minnesota 118 21.Nov.92
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Keywords: Nuggs win two straight
Organization: NCAR, Research Applications Program
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:38:00 GMT


(didn't see the game, but Todd The Godd Lichti played well...)

min 118, den 131   21nov92

min ( 2- 6)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
laettner,christia 38   7  12   0  1   9 13   2  6   0  4  0  4  1  0  0  0   23
person,chuck      42   7  16   0  0   5  7   4  8   8  4  0  2  0  0  0  0   19
spencer,felton    21   4   7   0  0   2  2   3  7   2  6  1  1  1  0  0  0   10
west,doug         38   9  13   0  0   0  0   1  3   3  5  0  1  1  0  0  0   18
williams,michael  37   4  10   0  0  13 19   1  3   3  5  1  3  0  0  0  0   21
longley,luc       10   2   6   0  0   0  0   2  3   1  5  1  0  0  0  0  0    4
blanks,lance      10   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  0   1  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
sellers,brad       6   1   2   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    2
bailey,thurl      20   4  10   0  0   9 10   0  2   1  2  0  2  0  0  0  0   17
smith,chris       11   2   3   0  0   0  0   0  0   1  0  1  1  0  0  0  0    4
mccann,bob         7   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  1  0  0  1  0  0  0    0
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
min totals       240  40  79   0  1  38 51  13 32  20 33  4 14  4  0  0  0  118
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .506   .000   .745       team rebs 10
procedure technicals 1 illegal defense
bench technicals: JRodgers 9:12 fourth quarter

den ( 3- 5)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
ellis,laphonso    29   4  12   0  0   0  0   3  8   2  6  2  3  0  0  0  0    8
williams,reggie   34   6   8   0  1   6  7   1  3   7  4  0  3  0  1  0  0   18
mutombo,dikembe   39   4   8   0  0   9 13   2 11   4  6  0  2  6  0  0  0   17
jackson,chris     31   9  13   0  0   5  5   1  1   4  4  0  0  0  0  0  0   23
lichti,todd       36   5   8   0  0  14 16   3  6   2  0  1  0  0  0  0  0   24
brooks,kevin       9   2   4   0  0   0  0   0  1   1  3  0  0  0  0  0  0    4
plummer,gary      14   3   6   0  0   6  6   5  7   1  6  0  0  0  0  0  0   12
hastings,scott    10   0   3   0  0   2  2   0  0   0  2  1  1  0  0  0  0    2
macon,mark        12   4   9   0  0   1  2   0  3   0  1  1  0  0  0  0  0    9
pack,robert       17   3   4   0  0   0  0   0  0   2  2  1  2  0  0  0  0    6
liberty,marcus     9   4   5   0  0   0  0   1  3   0  1  0  0  0  0  0  0    8
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
den totals       240  44  80   0  1  43 51  16 43  23 35  6 11  6  1  0  0  131
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .550   .000   .843       team rebs 10
procedure technicals 1 illegal defense, bench technicals: delay of game

min   33  32  30  23  -  118
den   44  33  22  32  -  131

attendance 12457, time 2:30, officials: HEvans,GBenson,TBernhardt

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From: v131pvwg@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Harry S Gong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Forwards in the East
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:45:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	When you begin to talk about Forwards in the Eastern conference, I think
some of the name you guys are batting around are good picks.  Especially Pippen.
Although I think that there are serious problems with the Bulls or something.
	Pippen is either one of the most versatile, or just another Hog like
Jordan.  He has the most assists on the team last year as a forward.  They 
obviously don't have talent at the point, or the BIG two just don't give
up the rock accept to each other.

But to add to the fray and to go against the "If you don't endorse shoes you
	can't be considered" theory, I would like to say (as much as it pains
me to) that Larry Nance should be considered.  He doesn't get the High 20's
and 30 ppg, but he is consistent in all categories.  He is also a consistent
leader among Cav Team Scorers and League blocking.  He doesn't have the benefit
of being a big star on a team of average players, the whole Cav team is solid.

					Just a passing thought.
						Harry
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