Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: URDU
From: amr7969@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 15 Nov 92 15:47:32 -0600
Reply-To: dogar@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Mankato State University


In article <dogar.721248614@opal4>, dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar) writes:
> mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP) writes:
> 
>>	In United States when you go out to bar/restaurants/Govt Offices
>>        university calsses etc you ask others to learn URDU first
>>	before you can talk to them? Which dress you use "Chooridar 
>>	Pajama and Achkan"?
>>	         Just curious.
> 
>>Mirza Ilyas
> 
> When I feel like it, I will wear a Shalwar Kameez with a waist coat
> made of pattu from Gilgit and sometimes over that a chador (Loy) made
> of Kashmiri wool. Is it just me, or do OTBs who come to the West and
> try their best to forget who and what they are make everyone else 
> sick too? 
> 
> Pa jee, eh sadda izzat da gal hai, te tussi sannu tannay dainay chaunday?
> 
> Sawri. Wrhaang Nhumbhur.
> 
> -hd
> Pakistani-American Youth Not Disguising Our Origins
> (PAYNDOO)
> Attaullah Khan/Nusrat Fateh Ali Khan
> PM/President
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> 
> From: s0m9470@summa.tamu.edu (SAAD)
> Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
> Subject: Payndoo ? Bhayya ?
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> 
> My contribution to payndoo/bhayya thread :)
> 
>  A payndoo is a payndoo. The term comes from punjbai word "pinD" which
> means a village. And a "payndoo" is someone from "pind". Why is it so
> derogatory ?
> 
>  Very interestingly, people from small cities and towns and villages
> coming to big cities like Lahore etc are called "payndoo" by natives
> of the big city who themselves at one point or other came from some
> small village or town. But the reason people feel insulted when called
> payndoo is not because they are punjabis or from village but because
> they want themselves to be known and accepted as "modern", "fashionable",
> "vogue" and ungraizee_medium. It could be my personal experience but I
> have this feeling that recent trend in upper-class punjabis is to
> show-off their payndooism as symbol of machoism. They do it by driving
> pajeros and accords with their dhoti_wearing_klashnikov_carrying body
> guards around them, speaking in punjabi but in very urban accent with few
> interjections of ungraizee phrases, wearing primitive but stylish desi
> clothing and listening to Atta_Ullah_Eisa_Khaelvi. They proudly call
> themselves payndoo.
> 
> The new term for those who donot come in above category and are non-punjbai
> speaking and donot show-off their payndoosim and act like "pauly_shore of MTV"
> in streets of Samanabad, Gulberg, Modeltown and Chouburjee is "mummy_daddy".
> Go visit any college or school in Lahore or Faisalabd and you will find plenty
> of these "mummy_daddys".
> 
> These "mummy_daddys" usually come from the kind of families where
> speaking punjabi is considered cheap. Where childern are brought up as
> if they are going to live in "Los Angeles" and "Houston" when they
> grow up. Most of them do end up at these places. These folks grow up
> with images of Michael J. Fox and Tom Cruise as their role models. They
> know how to assemble a 10 speed bike and where to buy latest "Madonna" album
> but they donot know where the best halwa puri is available and where is
> subzee mundee :) And above all they have no idea about the rules of
> street cricket and "poondi" :) :)
> 
> ---Yet Another Payndoo
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> Well I dont think there is any relation b/w halwa puri and a 10 speed
bike. One problem with us Pakistanis is that some of us are scared with
the growing age of the world and the fast paced rise in the technology.
We have lost over 40 years in debating if wearing jeans and sweat shirt
is to be considered 'fast' and a sign of mummy-daddy "burger family" and
if wearing shalwar qamiz is a sign of  pure patriotic Pakistani! i think
we shouldn't waste our precious time in this useless criticism, it only
creates generation gap, which is a very dangerous thing. look at the 
american and western society. If your teenage son or daughter dig hamburgers
and hate halwa puri and ustaad imanat ali khan, don't take it personaly, if
I wear jeans and listen to heavy metal rock, that doesn't disqualify me of
being a Pakistani. I love my country and I am damn proud of it,  but I don't
feel the need to show my patritism by wearing dhoti kurta, instead I want to
use my talent and education to serve it better.

			JUST A THOUGHT......	
				<Aamir>
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