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From: sam_s@NeXT.com (Sam Streeper)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: installation feedback, multiple partitions
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:03:51 GMT
Reply-To: sam_s@NeXT.com

I beat my head on this one until I figured it out, so maybe I can save someone  
some time.  By the way, if this has been rehashed and my findings are wrong, by  
all means correct them here.

I wanted partitions for 3 operating systems and file systems, 1 for dos, 1 for  
for os/2, and one for mach.  When I tried to put os/2 on its own partition, I  
got all kinds of headaches and its configuration would go sour every time I  
reinstalled DOS.  If I created the Primary dos partition for dos alone, then  
created an extended partition, then put a logical drive on the extended  
partition, os/2 would install onto the logical drive nicely.

The curious thing about this installation is that it looks like logical drives  
in an extended partition are not bootable like "normal" partitions, which is  
why IBM supplies the bootmanager, a program that runs from a normal bootable  
partition and knows how to boot both normal partitions and logical drives.

Perhaps this is apparent to others, but until I figured it out I was having  
nothing but trouble.  My final disk layout looks like this:

Partition 1 = Primarty DOS with dos installed
Partition 2 = Extended DOS partition
	then create a logical drive and mark it installable
	in my case the logical drive occupies 100% of the partition
Partition 3 = mach
Partition 4 = boot manager


It seems to me it would have been much less convoluted if OS/2 (at least for  
the HPFS) occupied its own "normal" partition, since it requires one to be able  
to boot anyway.  Something I missed?

-sam

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From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2 BETA - dos emulation not as good?
Date: 16 Oct 92 07:48:08 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

slumos@unlv.edu (Steve Lumos) writes:
>In article <hatton.719093517@cgl.ucsf.edu> hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton) writes:
>>You can e-mail compuserve acccounts, and they can e-mail back. You 
>>can send beta bug reports to Sam Detweiler:
>>
>>71075.2430@compuserve.com

>I sent a bug report to this address, but never got any acknoledgement.
>Do you talk to him very often? I even used the os2prob.txt form...

I imagine that he passes the reports along; I only asked him because
he was fielding problems and comments the day I was browsing - I asked
if people could route e-mail from the net about the beta to him, 
and he agreed. I'll check and see what's up.
 
Tom
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de (Thomas Greve)
Subject: Re: Tape backup compatibility...
Organization: University of Bonn, phys. Chemistry
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:20:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.055440.17356@CS.ORST.EDU> @prism.cs.orst.edu writes:
>I have the chance to obtain a 120 meg tape backup and I need to know if it
>is going to be compatible with OS/2 or not.
>
>It is an ALLOY 120 meg unit. It is QIC-40 compatible and also is supposedly
>compatible with the Colorado 120.
>
>It comes with some dos software, but I want to be able to use OS/2 software
>to do my backups.
You can get the `jumbo' software from Colorado for *DOS* for free.
It's on different ftp servers. *But* this does not help you, as it
does not work properly under OS/2, not to mention HPFS support.

There seems to be Sytos for OS/2, but it's quite expensive (~ $250)
and i'm not sure if it supports `floppy tapes'. I'll try to ask my
vendor today -- but i'm not sure, if he even knows about it.



-- 
				- Thomas

   greve@rs1.thch.uni-bonn.de
   unt145@dbnrhrz1
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From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Re: OS/2 on SCSI
Keywords: dispair
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 00:11:38 GMT

Solution:

Boot dos, use diskcopy to copy all of the os2 installation diskettes,
install os2 using the newly-copied diskettes on HPFS-formatted disk.
-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
 
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From: shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu (David S. Shy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: BETA, no need to format!!!
Date: 14 Oct 1992 02:15:04 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tempest.berkeley.edu


Ok guys and gals, before you starting taking out the flame throwers
and torched arrows, at least hear me out first (or should i say
read me first?)

As far as I know, what i did only applies to the FAT people (hehehe).
(unless you can somehow manuipulate the os/2 system files without os/2
telling you that they are being used by another process...)

BOOT UP WITH OS/2 and then:

1.  Rename all current OS/2 directories to something else (another reaason
	why os/2 is better than warbage...)


BOOT UP WITH DOS and then:
2.  Copy all the hidden system files (os2krnl and etc.) into some backup
	directory.  (first do a attrib -s -h -r)

3.  For the stubborn file, "EA ....SF", use a program such as pcshell
	to move it to another disk.

4.  By now, you should have a backup of every single system file so you're
	free to delete the originals.  (don't forget to backup/erase
	config.sys!)

5.  install the BETA!!!

So far everything seems to be running fine and since all the path to the
	original OS/2 has been changed, there's no way that the beta
	will be able to access them.  :)

When you're done w/ the beta, just delete all the beta os/2 directories and 
	the beta system files, and restore the original setup from your
	backup system files and rename the name of the os/2 directories
	back to what they were.

-so, have i missed anything anywhere?

btw:  the beta dos emulation does seem a bit slow.... however, i've
	only used procomm plus thus far and it might be that the server
	i'm connected to is slow... 

david shy
shyguy@ocf.berkeley.edu
From: @prism.cs.orst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Tape backup compatibility...
Date: 14 Oct 92 05:54:40 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept

I have the chance to obtain a 120 meg tape backup and I need to know if it
is going to be compatible with OS/2 or not.

It is an ALLOY 120 meg unit. It is QIC-40 compatible and also is supposedly
compatible with the Colorado 120.

It comes with some dos software, but I want to be able to use OS/2 software
to do my backups.

Am I out of luck here?

Thanks for any help.

Keith
Organization: Junior, IM - H&SS Track, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:58:50 -0400 
From: Kwan-Ju Chen <kc2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: CSD where is it?


when will CSD be out?????????????????


Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.misc:32567 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:26622
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 drivers *ARE* shipping with new ATI cards!!
From: Spartacus At CunyVM <I18BC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Saturday, 10 Oct 1992 19:12:11 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <1992Oct9.170827.13247@utdallas.edu>, goyal@utdallas.edu (Mohit K.
Goyal) says:
>
>I just got off the phone with ATI customer service (4167560711) and
>the guy I spoke with said that the ATI Graphics Ultra Plus has drivers
>for OS/2 2.0 included with it.
>
>These are 16-bit drivers, *but* he told me that they have a copy of the
>beta 32-bit graphics engine in house and the drivers do work with it.
>
>I could not get an answer on whether or not ATI would release 32-bit
>drivers for the 32-bit GRE. (the only advantage for this would be speed)

Thats good news,

    If anyone on the net gets these cards soon, it would be
very interesting to see benchmark test between IBM's OS2 8514/a
standard drivers and ATI's new OS/2 drivers.
Please Post the results! :-)
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                              |      Edward Galarza,
     I18BC@CunyVM.Cuny.Edu    |      Brooklyn College Of The
     I18BC@CunyVM.BitNet      |      City University Of New York
------------------------------+      "Que viva el OS/2!"
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.apps
From: etxabju@juno.ericsson.se (Anders Bjurman)
Subject: Re: Wildcards do not work with GNU utils
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB, Stockholm, Sweden
	<1992Oct7.024335.6758@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:30:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.024335.6758@midway.uchicago.edu> soh3@quads.uchicago.edu (min-woong sohn) writes:

   In article <1992Oct06.113517.148217@ipgaix.unipg.it> luca@dedalo.unipg.it (Luca Priorelli) writes:
   >When I try to use any GNU utility putting an * as filename, it says
   >"'*' not found". The 4os2 shell that I use seems not to be able to
   >expand the wildcard characters before invoking the program. 
   >
   What utility program are you using?  Neither cmd.exe nor 4os2.exe
   expands wildcards before it passes command line arguments to the
   program.  It's the responsibility of the program to read and
   expand the wildcards.

This is a difference between UNIX and OS/2 (and DOS) that I think is very
frustrating: In UNIX it is the shells responsibility to expand wildcard, and in
OS/2 the applications should do it.

Is there any simple solution of this problem?

Or, is there some simple utility out there some there that is capable of expanding
wildcards for another program? e.g.

C> wildcard ls *.exe *.com

Where the wildcard program examines all args, except the first one (ls) and
expands them. Wildcard then starts the first arg (ls) with the expanded 
names as args (how long can a command line in OS/2 be?).

If 4os2 is used, an alias 'ls' as 'wildcard ls' can be set.
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From: stimpy@nmt.edu (John Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: DON'T BUY OS/2 -- IBM IS HORRIBLE
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:14:48 GMT
Organization: New Mexico Tech

>>>I just got off the phone with IBM Tech Support.  If I want to be able
>>>to use my CD-ROM drive (Creative Labs SBPRO MM Upgrade Kit) then I 
>>>have to either (A) buy an IBM cd-rom drive or (B) buy their 
>>>'Multimedia Package' software for $500 bucks.  Are they out of their
>>>minds?   I just spent $100 for a program that was 'compatable with
>>>windows and dos programs' but in order for ME to be compatable, I must
>>>spend $500 more?  With customer support like that, it's no wonder that
>>>their stocks are falling.  My only suggestion is to keep away from IBM
>>>and stick with good ole reliable Microsoft (Can't wait for Windows NT)
>>>Furthermore, in their 'readme' file it tells you about problems with certain
>
>>Uh, OK, dude!  Whatever you say.  Gosh, I sure am glad you warned me!  I
>Good old reliable Microsoft huh, Windows NT.

If you think that NT won't have problems and will support *EVERYTHING* you
are sadly mistaken. _nothing_ is perfect....Go ahead, get NT....

-Jr



-- 
Windows...It's like a stale cookie.
OS/2..."It's like butter" (SNL quote)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: mpusa@vipunen.hut.fi (Matti Pusa)
Subject: epson epl-7100 driver
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date:  7 Oct 92 13:28:24 GMT

I have an Epson EPL-7100 laser printer which i would like to use in GQ-mode.
However i have not been able to find a printer driver for that mode.
(EPL-7100 or GQ-5000 or GQ-3500).
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Matti.Pusa@hut.fi
From: iam@stiatl.salestech.com (Ian Mercado)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Where can I e-mail my beta OS/2 bug reports?
Date: 9 Oct 92 12:15:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sales Technologies, Inc.

I don't have a compuserve account, so how do I get my bug reports into the
hands of ol' big-blue?  There's wasn't a phone number listed on the two
sheets of paper that came with the beta, but I've heard rumors of one
existing.  Any help would be great.

Ian

P.S.  Has anyone figured out a work-around for the stuttering sound-blaster
      drivers in WIN-OS/2 3.1?

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"But it was too slow, so I re-wired it..."           | virus.  Copy me and die!
From: dauphin@adobe.com (Kimberly Dauphin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Word/Win no longer works correctly in Win-OS/2 3.1
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:25:40 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

Hi, everyone,

Before I send this in as a Win-OS/2 3.1 bug, I thought I'd
check and make sure it's not operator error. :-)

After installing the new OS/2 2.0 beta code, my Word for Windoze
application no longer works correctly under Win-OS/2 3.1  It
worked beautifully under Win-OS/2 in the released OS/2 2.0.

Here's the problem:  "File Open" menu does not allow me to click
on any drive other than Drive D: (the default). It's not that 
the menu of drives comes up and doesn't allow me to select one; 
rather, the other piece of this menu won't show up when I
click on the down arrow next to D:.

Similarly, I cannot select any file type other than the default,
*.doc.  Clicking on the down arrow simply changes the color of
the *.doc line from blue to white to blue...

I can force the app to read from a disk by typing in the full
drive:\pathname\filename in the file name line, but this is
troublesome when I have a disk full of stuff and I can't remember
the name of the file I want. :-)

I called the Microsoft support hotline for Windoze apps running 
under OS/2.  The OS/2 specialist knew nothing about this new OS/2
beta release, and said the problem was with the OS/2 code.  He 
specifically mentioned the fact that 3.1 uses shared menus, and 
that the OS/2 code is apparently not written to take advantage of this.
He suggested I submit a bug report to IBM.  

Can anyone tell me whether this is indeed a bug?  Or is this
Microsoft guy clueless?  I'm concerned that he didn't even know
of the existence of the new OS/2 code, so I tend to doubt his
"support," although he did seem to know OS/2 in general.

Please post if you think it's valuable to the net, or send me
email if not.  Thanks much -

-- 
_____________________________________________________

Kimberly Dauphin	  Adobe Systems Incorporated
dauphin@mv.us.adobe.com	  Mountain View, CA
From: mstaben@comtch.spk.wa.us (Matthew Staben)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 on 386sx - How is speed?
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:06:33 GMT
Organization: Waffle BBS at CompuTech Spokane, Washington

Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

> In article <GKUSHMER.92Oct7085731@jade.tufts.edu> gkushmer@jade.tufts.edu (Gr
> > I run OS/2 on a 386sx-25 with 8 megs and it works fine.  There are moments
> > when I have a lot of apps open that it screen response is a little sluggish
> > but that is because I am using SVGA mode on a Trident more than anything el
> > 
> > --gk
> 
> Yesterday, I saw OS/2 running on a 386DX/20 MHz PC with 8 megs of RAM  plus 2
> megs on a RAM expansion card. 
>  
> I have seen OS/2 on other machines similar to this one. Again, I was amazed a
> well it runs on a system like this. Very acceptable performance. This was the
> GA version of OS/2, as well. I have the beta and it would have been even
> better if it had been running the upgrade. 
>  
> OS/2 really does like the RAM. The processor speed is almost incidental. It
> certainly seems to me that if you want to speed up an OS/2 system, you don't
> need a 486/50.....you would be wiser to buy a busmastering cache controller
> and fill it up with RAM. Clearly the disk access is the biggest factor in
> performance once you have an adequate amount of RAM.
>  
> Steve
> 
> -- 
> Steve Withers - Wellington, New Zealand | On Sept. 19th, 88% of NZ voters opt
> Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz         | for proportional representation. It
> withers_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz            | looks like we may get a more  
> **** Happy user of OS/2 v2!! ****       | democratic system "real soon now".

 
I have seen OS/2 on a 286 (version 1.3).  Makes the 286 run with 386 
performance by keeping it in protected mode.  If IBM would have had a 
lower price when they released OS/2 in 1987, things would be much 
different now.  An OS/2 with a less-needed DOS emulation and expansion of 
powers in other areas such as networking, etc.
 
Try it yourself.  Grab an old copy of OS/2 and just boot it up on a 286.  
Runs pretty slick, even if only in ANSI.
 
Matt

mstaben@comtch.spk.wa.us
 
- A warning to anyone, still in command...
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel)
Subject: Sytos Plus....
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY, 12866
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:54:49 GMT


I read recently that someone was using Sytos Plus to back up OS/2.  My
new Dell has a tape backup and Sytos Plus was included, I've used it
in DOS.  So I booted up OS/2, went to a DOS full screen and tried
backing up an HPFS drive.  When it begins to backup, on the first
file, the screen freezes.  I have to abort.  This happened several
times.  Is there a trick?  The front of the box says "for DOS
operating systems" on a decal, but the back of the box says : "system
requirements DOS version 3.0 or higher, or OS/2 version 1.2 or higher
(supports OS/2 HPFS)."


-- 
Pierre von Kaenel	| Skidmore College	     | pvonk@skidmore.edu
Math & CS Dept.		| Saratoga Springs, NY 12866 | (518)584-5000 Ext 2391

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From: dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: GCC PM Programming docs
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:56:37 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct11.090702.13070@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au> parry@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tom J Parry) writes:
>Ha - stop dreaming ! The only PD info you'll get on this are the PM header 
>files that come with the GCC distribution. For API Information,you could try
>te IBM OS/2 Technical Reference Library (provided you're reasonably rich),
>or just wait until some third party release a "Building OS/2 Apps" style book.

You don't have to buy the entire Technical Library to get the PM info.
The volumes are sold separately at a price that is quite competitive
with bookstore prices.  There are three large volumes that describe
(in extreme detail) the PM API.  There is another volume describing
the Control Program (Dos*, Dev*, etc.) API's.

They are all available on-line in the toolkit ($79 from Programmer's
Paradise).

>Personally, I'm hoping Borland4OS2 will come with an online (if no paper)
>API reference.

It'll include them.  And it'll be included in the price.  just like
their Dos and Windows compilers.
-- 
David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writing
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enough
----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard"
From: marten@feki.toppoint.de (Marten Feldtmann)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: How to get the IBM CD?
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 20:06:54 GMT
Organization: Private OS/2 System

sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes in article <1992Oct10.181906.27228@midway.uchicago.edu>:
> 
> In article <dlcogswe.718724439@vela> dlcogswe@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Dan Cogswell) writes:
> >I've read a few articles mentioning the availability of a new CD with a
> >whole lot of (beta?) software on it for $15.  I'm not a devloper, but I
> >am particpating in the 32-bit GRE beta.  In any case, could someone
> >point me in the right direction to get this new CD?
> 
> This question is answered in the FAQ List as of Release 2.0f.
> 
> Sorry to be so sour, but people really ought to start reading this
> list.
> 

 In the US the FAQ-List is correct, but again what about these guys
living outside the US? 

 I called IBM-Germany. No idea about this CD-ROM and how to get it. I
told them about what I read in these newsgroups. Well, IBM-Germany told
me to try it in the US. Ok, I phoned the US number. Ho, sorry ... we're
only for the US market .. but try this little nice number in the UK. Ok,
I tried the UK number .. very polite men and I had the feeling, he
really wanted to help me -- but he hasn't heard anything about the
CD-ROM. It was the IBM PSS-group. I fax them all I know about this
CD-ROM and I hope to get an answer this week ..... what a wonderful
world it could be .... :-) :-(

 MF

--
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc,rec.games.misc
From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
Subject: AUTOEXEC from bootdrive only (was Re: Gunship, Autoexec, Ram Disk, PC-NFS)
Keywords: lockups, autoexec, ramdrive, nfs
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:48:08 GMT

In <1992Oct9.182645.19982@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

>In article <1992Oct7.041302.8086@trl.oz.au> peter@tardis.trl.OZ.AU (Peter K. Campbell) writes:
>>Another problem I've found is with the autoexec.bat file.  If I launch
>>a DOS program from the desktop (e.g. doubleclicking the icon under the
>>drive program) it will run the autoexec.bat file first, BUT ONLY IF IT
>>IS ON THE SAME DRIVE AS THE PROGRAM.

>Odd.  My C:\Autoexec.BAT file loads whenever I launch a DOS session.
>From a C: icon, from a D: icon, from a floppy icon, or even from an
>OS/2 command prompt.

Sounds like David is running an early version of 4DOS, where this
problem (only executes AUTOEXEC on the current drive in a VDM) was a
known bug.  If so, the solution is to get the latest version of 4DOS
from ftp-os2 or your favorite simtel mirror.
-- 
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xtifr@netcom.COM| need disclaimers | Because Nobody's perfect!!
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sangercd@nextnet.csus.edu (Carl D. Sanger)
Subject: McAfee & Assoc Scan for OS/2
Organization: California State University Sacramento
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 03:57:42 GMT

With all the talk in this group about the potential virus threat, I decided to
upload the BETA (please note that word) version of "Scan" to hobbes.  I 
couldn't get past about 66k though, before the transfer would just hang.  I've
never uploaded anything to an ftp site before, so let me know if I'm missing
anything.  Post of e-mail if you have any ideas and I'll be happy to try 
again.  Thanks.

-- 
Carl Sanger				|| sangercd@csus.edu
California State University, Sacramento
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