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From: ncherry@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (neil j.cherry)
Subject: Re: Hints on commuting by bike?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:31:34 GMT

In article <BtnFpu.5t1@rice.edu> shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry) writes:
>>In article <ldnyytc@rpi.edu> garrem@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen
>>Garretson) writes: 
>
>>Personally, I think the worry about perspiration is overdone. 
>
>Again, Amen!

I know some people who get sick at the smell of sweat, but if it isn't
really I know I don't care. I ride about once a week to work (24.5 miles
one way with some quick steep hills) and when I arrive I can smell myself.
This usually means I must shower, I am lucky to have showers and I do use them.
I remember one person washing up in the mens room with a sponge, face cloth,
soap, etal. It worked out quite well for him. I also worked with someone who
used to sweat quite alot and only showered once a week. He used to flake all
over the place, we avoided him as much as possible! I think the sponge and
towel method would probably work well. And maybe a quick rinse of your hair.
One thing I've been told recently is that trimming your arm pit hair and other
assorted areas cuts down on the oder. Less places for the bacteria to grow.
Good luck and happy cycling.

NJC
From: birchall@pilot.njin.net (Shag)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Philadelphia gets bicycle cops.
Keywords: Yay!
Date: 26 Aug 92 23:04:58 GMT
Organization: Screaming in Digital, the Queensryche Net Digest

Well, the local paper here [south Jersey] ran an AP article on Philadelphia's
new bicycle police unit... just the facts:

Size of unit: 4 officers [so far] - 3 male, 1 female, I think.
Size of patrol: 2 officers
Patrol area: 20 blocks
Patrol speed: 15-20 mph
Patrol bikes: mountain bikes (make unknown)
Training: defensive riding, nutrition, exercise, firearm use.
Clothes: Helmets, padded gloves, blue short-sleeved shirts, navy shorts.
Gear: Radio, handcuffs, water bottle, bag containing repair kit, spare
	handcuffs, maps, "other police items."
Sidearms: .38 revolvers or Glock 9mm semiautomatic pistols.

The article notes that the female officer is only 5' tall and is waiting for
a bike adapted to her height, apparently the standard one is a bit unwieldy
for her.  It also notes that a special 2-day session at the pistol range was
developed for the cyclists, as the biking gloves alter the use of handguns.

-Shag
-- 

     Freedom belongs to only those without video screens for eyes and mouth.
		- Queensryche
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: v008pcqu@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Patrick E Tuxbury)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
Subject: Re: leg shave shacks
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug30.025502.504@vms.huji.ac.il>, oren@coma.huji.ac.il (Oren Mitz) writes...
>Hello all;
> 
>That's it.  I decdied to shave my legs.  The reasons:
>1.  Easier massages.
>2.  Nicer legs.
>3.  How would people now your a bicycler if you don't have shave legs?
> 
>Soo, after I should my self determination here are my doubts:
> 
>My sister gave me the freaks telling me that just shaving the legs
>won't help.  The hair will grow back after a short period (and I have
>a lot of hair....).
> 
>So what should I do?  Should I shave and hope that it won't grow longer?


      Is it true that after you shave your legs for the first time it grows
back thicker than it was in the first place.  Girls have told me so and I
suppose they're the experts.  Anyone know otherwise?
             						patrick
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: viviana@igor.tamri.com (Vivian Aldridge)
Subject: Bike Rentals in Bay Area
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 17:18:32 GMT

Hi,
Does anyone have a list of bike rental places in the bay area?
Specifically, I am interested in the Marin area. I'm trying
to decide which mountain bike to try and would like to
try them out on real trails.

Thanks!

Vivian

viviana@tamri.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: M23231@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Ignorant Cyclists (was: Hints on commuting by bike?)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:07:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.143359.21906@galois.mit.edu>
robertb@tarski.mit.edu (Robert Becker) writes:
 
>
>In article <q4j-YD=@engin.umich.edu> blagdon@engin.umich.edu (Kenneth James Clark ) writes:
>>"Wrong side of the street" sounds pretty benign to me.  I would usually
>>say something a bit more caustic, like "Wrong side of the street you idiot!".
>>And "What are you trying to do, get both of us killed?".  And maybe "Why
>>don't you try learning to ride that thing?".
>>
>>I suppose I'm from the 'shame and derision work' school of motivation at
>>times.  Which is more obnoxious, them riding on the wrong side of the street,
>>or you hurting their feelings?
>
************
This illustrates an apparent Law of Human Relations--The Law of Obnoxion: In an
y verbal exchange the Obnoxion level will not decrease but will tend to increas
e exponentially with each riposte.
***********
(stuff deleted)
>
>Common untruth held by many parents, who then pass it to their kids:
>bicycles should ride against traffic.  Why?  Because they can see the
>cars coming.  Of course, nobody thinks of things like closing speed.
>
*************
But it does *seem* like a more defensive rule. Regardless of which side
of the road a bicyclist travels on, he is virtually guaranteed that every
motor vehicle will pass him. He will likely be killed if a collision occurs
on either side of the road. At least when he's on the left (US) he can see
what is coming at him. Riding on the right he must rely on poor rear view
sight and the skill, good will, and alertness of every driver going his
way.
*************
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From: stephas@dgp.toronto.edu (Tamara Stephas)
Subject: Re: Frequency of flats
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:16:28 GMT

In article <1685070DC.MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu> 
  MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman) replies to 
 article <ZX85PB2w165w@toz.buffalo.ny.us>
 augy@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Jeffrey Ehlinger), who says:
>>
>>  [...]  I have had two inner tubes become flat. The hole
>>is big enough that I can not take a 10 mile ride, without it deflating to
>>the point of uncomfort.  I have only put 400 miles on these tires. Am I
>>doomed to buying a new tube every 200 miles? ...
>>
>1.Inspect your tire ...
>2. Are you inflating the tires sufficiently?...
>3. Maybe you have a spoke protruding too far, or a torn rim strip ...
>4. ... You may not be properly seating the tire on the rim ...
>(Any other thoughts, bikies?)

Excellent advice.  But also --- don't *leave* a hole that keeps you from
riding 10 miles:  even slow leaks should be patched.  A perfectly good
patch kit costs somthing less than $2 in most bike shops, and has lots
of patches.

You can help protect your tires against unavoidable glass and so on
by habitually cleaning your tires as you ride.  Wear gloves, and if
you see that you have ridden through glass or grit, you can reach down 
and allow the grit on the tire to rub off on the glove between your 
thumb and forefinger.  You need to be careful to use the seat tube as 
a guide when you do this on the rear wheel, so your fingers stay out 
of the spokes!  If you're uncomfortable with this, you might try tire 
savers.  I've heard pro and con on them and never used them myself, but 
I *do* find that cleaning my tires helps reduce punctures --- you have a
good chance of knocking off things teeny bits of glass before they get 
driven through the tread.

Also, what kind of streets or paths are you riding on?  Sometimes changing
your route can save some grief.  A friend of mine was very frustrated
once because he was getting flats frequently.  Turns out he was cycling 
past a big construction site (new subdivision or something), and kept
picking up tacks and wire.  Another time, I had three flats in one month
in eastern Washington state.  Couldn't figure out why, especially as I rode
only on bicycle/jogging paths, staying away from the sometimes glass-strewn
street gutters.  Took my complaint to a local cycling shop, thinking it
had to do with my tires or tubes.  Nope!  There is a local low-growing 
desert plant there, which is locally called a tack plant.  Reason:  its 
dried thorny bits can fall or break off, and always land with a sharp
end up (like those tetrahedral tire-piercing thingummies used against
military vehicles!)  Joggers running beside the paths pick them up in 
their shoes, and unwittingly deposit them on the paths.  Murder on bicycle 
tubes!  When I switched to riding on the roads, the problem stopped.

Hope it helps ...

- Tamara
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles.misc
From: shopsis@auvax1.adelphi.edu (Charles Shopsis)
Subject: Pumps
Reply-To: shopsis@auvax1.adelphi.edu
Organization: Adelphi University, Garden City, NY
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:01:36 GMT

My trusty old Zefal HP was permanently borrowed by a stranger while I ran in to
the post office a few days ago.  A look in the catalogs shows a new breed of
mini-pumps, almost pocket-sized.  The size appeals to me, but I would like to
know whether they require more effort to use.  Some of them have "two-way"
action - do these require similar number of strokes as the longer pumps with
"one-way" action.

I would appreciate comments and recommendations of particular brands and/or
models.

Thanks.




Charles Shopsis                         Internet: shopsis@auvax1.adelphi.edu
Department of Chemistry, Adelphi Univ.            (516) 877-4140
Garden City, New York 11530
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From: canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson)
Subject: Re: Wheel truing I need advice
Reply-To: canderso@nyx.UUCP (Chuck Anderson)
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 21:36:59 GMT

> jpalmier@rvgs.vak12ed.edu (Jim Palmieri) writes:

>                     .........Practice on other peoples wheels

And don't work on your own until you've got it right.

--
  *************************************************************************
     Chuck Anderson                uucp    :         uunet!nyx!canderso
     Boulder, Co. (303) 494-6278   internet:         canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu
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From: MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman)
Subject: Re: Frequency of flats
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:01:29 GMT

In article <ZX85PB2w165w@toz.buffalo.ny.us>
augy@toz.buffalo.ny.us (Jeffrey Ehlinger) writes:
 
>
>
>     I have a Ross Parragon and I recently bought 27 x 1 1/4" tires made
>by Schwinn. Since then I have had two inner tubes become flat. The hole
>is big enough that I can not take a 10 mile ride, without it deflating to
>the point of uncomfort.  I have only put 400 miles on these tires. Am I
>doomed to buying a new tube every 200 miles? Or am I buying an easily
>damaged tube? Is this milage normal for a flat or is it completely
>random?  Thank You -Jeff
>
1.Inspect your tire- whatever flatted the first tube may still be in there! Run
your fingers lightly inside the tire, feeling for bits of glass or metal.
 
2. Are you inflating the tires sufficiently? If not, you will get "snakebite"
punctures when the tube is squeezed between the tire and rim. Look for two
punctures side by side.
 
3. Maybe you have a spoke protruding too far, or a torn rim strip that
allows the tube to inflate  into the spoke well. Inspect the rim for these
problems. Long spokes can be filed or clipped; new rim strips or rim tape
are available at the bike store. Avoid Michelin rim strips!
 
4. If your tube has a large tear in it, as opposed to a tiny slit, you may
not be properly seating the tire on the rim, allowing the tube to blow out
between the tire and rim.
 
(Any other thoughts, bikies?)
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From: karen@athena.mit.edu (Karen E. Walrath)
Subject: Re: Cycling Gives Me A Neck Ache -- Recommendations??
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 02:37:46 GMT

In article <17jdsjINN1ji@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> bgahl@scuba.EBay.Sun.COM (Robert Gahl SunSoft DPT Software Engineer) writes:
>
>2) As for price, they cost no more than a good mountain bike would cost.
>   An Infinity can go for as little as $600. If you want to get exotic,
>   then you can spend more money. You want to add killer components, you

Um.  I have the Infinity.  For $600 you get the bottom of the barrel for 
components.  The brake levers were so cheap that the bike store wouldn't
even give us a trade in allowance.  When you apply the breaks, the rear 
wheel has a seam that slams the brake pads each time around.  The pedals
where the cheap plastic things.  If I do it again, I'll buy the frameset
and have my local bike shop put what I want on it instead of getting a 
bike loaded with cheap parts that I'm going to upgrade anyway.

[The bike was for my husband.  Once we got everything upgraded, including
grip-shifts, he loves it.  Hasn't been on his road bike since.]

Karen  Walrath
MIT
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: jly33321@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John L.Yoon )
Subject: Re: Campy dt shifter problem
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:45:31 GMT

tan@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (David Tan,Box 219 Baker Lab,54810,2720402) writes:

>From article <c1fn_!=.royg@netcom.com>, by royg@netcom.com (Roy H. Gordon):
>> A friend on mine has a pair of 15 year old Campy downtube shifters, probably
>> Neuvo Record.  They no longer hold.  Sometimes they don't just slip to
>> the next higher gear, but go to the smallest cog.  As you might imagine
>> my friend is usually not appreciative of these labor saving qualities.
>> 
>> He has taken apart and regreased components in varying permutations,
>> from no grease at all to grease everything, but nothing seems to make
>> any difference.
>> 
>> One peculiarity is that the only way he can keep the largest cog engaged is
>> to really re-tighten the wing nut after every shift!  When he now
>> (intentionally) shifts to a smaller cog, obviously the action is very stiff.

>Have you tried Loctite?  The problem seem to be less in the shifter than in

one particular friend had the same problem.  The problem turned out to be
the frame (Alan carbon fiber).  Although he wasn't extremely big or heavy,
his thrashing riding style combined with a really flexible frame caused
the rear deraileur to shift under heavy loads.  The problem disappeared when
he returned the components to an old frame with SL tubing (the Alan broke 
at the BB).

-- 
John Yoon                     | University of Illinois CU (MatSci) std.disclaim
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From: willo@youcon.Central.Sun.COM (Doug Willoughby  Area SE  - Midwest Area )
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: HG Chain vs. Sedis ATB
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:57:01 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems - Southfield, Michigan
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: youcon.central.sun.com

Speaking of Cycoli pins that bend and mushroom, are
replacements available? I've filed and straightened
mine a couple of times. I've either got to replace
the pin or the whole tool. Souces of replacement,
anyone?

Doug
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: CMSC28@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Mark Hickey)
Subject: Re: AT-4 Pro bars
Organization: Motorola
Date: 31 Aug 1992 06:47:15 CDT

The AT4-Pro has to be the best distance MTB bar known to man!  I
use mine on a short (17") Fisher for a 40 mile daily commute.  I
have found that I can assume a very aero position with my wrists
draped over the "dips" in the front of the bar, and my forearms
on the grips (which are in close since the bar is only 20" wide).
I've got so many hand positions, I have trouble choosing.  The
only problem I had was.. Where do I mount a headlight? It ended
up on the fork.... Oh well.....
Mark (was that a mountain bike?) Hickey
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:20745 alt.flame:12058 alt.stupidity:2522
From: pardo@cs.washington.edu (David Keppel)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,alt.flame,alt.stupidity
Subject: Re: RESULT: rec.bicycles reorganization passes
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:35:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle

parksd@source.asset.com (Don Parks) writes:
>[r.b.*!?  You all f***ed up!  People will be clueless about where
> to put posts.]

I seem to recall some problems with `rec.bicycles' and
`rec.motorcycles' crossposts, and some other problems with people in
`alt.stupidity' crossposting maliciously to `rec.arts.startrek'.  I
say, let's just combie *all* the newsgropus together.

It seems pretty clear to me (b) having more newsgroups doesn't cause
any *more* posts, I can just read all the r.b groups if I want to be
anal about not missing anything and (2) my news reader makes sure I
don't re-read crossposted articles.

Geez, why am I posting this?  Shoulda had a `rec.bicycles.flame'.

	    ;-D oN  ( r.b. regurgiation passes )  Pardo
From: jmyers@tekig7.PEN.TEK.COM (Jonathan E Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: top five innovations
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:43:31 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <04knv-k.tomk@netcom.com> tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich) writes:
>
>Biopace _does_ seem to have a positive effect at very low cadence.
>Mountain bikes used the 26 ring to pretty good effect. Had there
>not been mechanical difficulties with making a 24 they probably could
>have retained that market indefinitely.
>
>BTW, many riders had noticed this. This isn't an implication, but
>a fact.
>
I used to have a Bio-Pace 26 ring on my MTB.  It was terrible!  When you 
would try to climb very steep techinical climbs where you were near the
adhesion limit, the Bio-Pace action would cause you to loose traction and
and fall over.  A round chain ring (26 or 24) was much smoother and allowed
for a much easier climb on steep technical climbs.
  Bio-Pace was a MISTAKE!

I don't know of anyone who liked Bio-Pace for MTB's.  This may be because of
the people I ride with, but it is also a fact.

		Jon Myers
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: henniss@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kathryn Henniss)
Subject: Re: ADVISE sought: WIFE doesn't wear helmet, etc. - how to make her do
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 18:58:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.172010.20091@eecs.nwu.edu> mack23@avalon.eecs.nwu.edu (Chris Walsh) writes:
>
>Another good read that makes this point is a book by some couple (help me
>here, folks!).  They rode zillions of miles around the U.S. and documented
>it in a book.  Tons of photos and descriptions of how idiots cut them off,
>tossed shit at 'em etc.  About a third through this 300 pp book, I realized
>that neither person ever had a helmet on.  I finished the book, and on the
>last page there was an Afterword that said that the female protagonist (if
>there can be such a thing in a non-fiction work) had died a few months after
>completing the book, of head injuries sustained in a helmetless crash.  The
>remaining author strongly urged folks to always wear a helmet.  If your wife 
>has any sense at all, this will make the desired impression.  Now, if anyone
>can help with the title, ISBN #, etc...
>
>

The name of the book is _Miles From Nowhere_, and I think it's
published by The Mountaineers (Seattle).  Don't have the authors'
names or the ISBN handy, though, sorry.  

If your helmet-averse wife has been to college or grad school, you 
might also get her to think in terms of helmet-wearing as protecting
the sheer monetary investment she (and/or her parents, scholarship
organizations, Uncle Sam, etc.) has between her ears, pointing out 
that all that money spent on higher education isn't worth much if she 
ends up dead or a vegetable (likely outcomes of a head injury bike 
accident).

Kathryn
From: BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: do dishless wheels ride differently?
Date: 28 Aug 92 15:45:03 GMT

Eric House writes:

> That's what I'm trying to do.  I'm going to be quite interested to see how
> long a 36-spoke dishless 700c rear wheel goes between truings.  I'm not a
> very experienced wheel builder, and I've been averaging 2-3000 miles between
> rear wheel touchups, but am betting that I'll go a lot longer on these wheels

Unless a wheel is so offset as to have a tension ratio between right and
left spokes of 2.5:1 there shouldn't be any truing problems anyway, whether
it is a symmetrical wheel or not.  My experience is that unless I take an
unfortunate dive, my wheels don't get any "care" other than for the bearings
until the rims are worn out.  I ride them over all the rough descents here
and in the Alps and many miles of trails.  They are 36 spoke 1.8/1.6 mm DT on
Campagnolo Record (antique) hubs with ultra-6 FW and 120 mm dropout spacing.
I do so little to these wheels that I often get around to overhauling the
bearings only because the axle is broken.  That is to say, I take the wheel
out to toss it in the back of the car and notice that the axle is "bent".
Campagnolo axles don't bend, they crack and I often take them out before
they break off.  To the untrained eye, the crack is not apparent.

On the other hand, it was Tom Ritchey who first told me of having an
undished rear wheel.  What he had was a bike on which the chain line
intersected the right crank when in top gear and even in the second cog
the chain touched the crank end when it came past that point.  Most
conventional bikes make contact with the chain here occasionally when
nut under load.  You will notice many tiny nicks in the aluminum in
a chain synchronous spacing on the inside of the right crank on most bikes.

Ride bike, and leave the dishes in the kitchen.

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
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From: praetzel@marconi.uwaterloo.ca (Eric Praetzel)
Subject: first accident and brineling
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:50:54 GMT

I see that the group has split and this one will be rm'ed soon.  Well
my last fling will be my first accident.  On the way to our weekly
hammer session (actually my TT behind the pack to give me incentive to
go faster) I tboned a car.
  I just went thru an intersection, passed an entrance to some fat
dispenser (McDonalds I think) and this car that is waiting to do a left
decides he is going to do it right in front of me.  I got it down from
45 km/h (tailwind) to something lower as I plowed into his recently 
stopped car.  He did see me at the last instant and decided to stop and
block both lanes.  I had been thru this in my mind often enough.  Its 
better to plow into them and have their insurance pay than avoid and
self inflict dammage which is _your_ fault.
  Anyway I got his wheelwell and could not find any dammage.  I think
that my forks might be back a bit but can't see any bend and the speed
did not seem too hight.  So if anyone knows the axel to axel wheelbase
of a 55cm Klein Quantum with Sakae Prism fork drop me a note.
  I took the chance to take my fork out (its been 3 years since I built
it).  Well there was lots of grease left but where each bearing was
nominally located on the race a little dimple (not brinel) had been dug
into the race.  I can believe that micro welding is the cause but why 
all the way around with what appears to be lots of grease?  Perhaps that
is the result of being a bit tight on the headset?
  Anyway, that was my first eventful night of 1.5 years of bike commuting
(aside from being passed and then having the vehical execute a right
- but those are easy to avoid).
  - Eric 
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