HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Dan Jacobson)
Subject: Re: Help with PIPPIN format
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:29:29 GMT

In article <TSHIN.92Dec15002851@husc8.harvard.edu> tshin@husc8.harvard.edu (Tae Shin) writes:
>Hopefully someone out there can help me on this one.  I'm using a DCL program
>called RIBBON that creates Richardson diagrams of protein structures.  The 
>output file is readable by FRODO and also can be converted to a format called
>PIPPIN for printing on pen plotters.  Unfortunately I only have laser printers,
>and the PIPPIN file is clearly a file that controls pen movement.  Does anyone
>know how to print this on a laser printer or convert it to another format 
>(e.g. PostScript) which can be printed?  Hopefully someone knows what I'm 
>talking about and give me a hand.  Any help/suggestions are greatly
>appreciated.
>

Most likely the plotter file is in HP-GL format (or possibly RD-GL) in which
case you can convert it to Postscript with the hpgl2ps program.  In the
unlikely event that the plotter file is in DXY format the hpgl2ps package
can handle that too.  

You can obtain hpgl2ps by anonymous ftp from many sites around the
world - here are just a few of the sites given by an archie search:

Host rigel.acs.oakland.edu

    Location: /pub/msdos/postscript
           FILE -rw-r--r--     118499  Aug 26 1989  hpgl2ps.arc
    Location: /pub/unix-c/postscript
           FILE -rw-r--r--      28946  Mar  5 1989  hpgl2ps1.tar-z
           FILE -rw-r--r--      51401  Mar  5 1989  hpgl2ps2.tar-z

Host cs.orst.edu

    Location: /pub/src/text/filters
           FILE -rw-rw-r--      29130  Jan 14 1992  hpgl2ps.tar.Z

Host server.uga.edu

    Location: /pub/sgi
           FILE -r--r--r--      45168  Jul  7 09:20  hpgl2ps.tar.Z


    
Hope this helps,


Dan Jacobson

danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu
From: bsh@MED.PITT.EDU (Basavaraju Shankarappa)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Re. ?CABIOS?
Date: 12 Dec 92 19:08:34 GMT
Distribution: bionet

> <1>From: bsh@med.pitt.edu (Basavaraju Shankarappa)
> <1>To: LETTIERE_DAJ@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU, bio-soft@net.bio.net
> <1>Subject: Re:  Biocomputing journals & alternatives to dissection?
> <1>
> <1>1.  Computer Applications in Biomedical Sciences; a NAR publication
> <1>also abbreviated as CABIOS
> But as David pointed out, CABIOS should stand for Computer Applications in the
> Biosciences. Here is another mail message:
> <2>From: Des.Higgins@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Des Higgins)
> <2>Subject: RE:ClustalV
> <2>The paper describing Clustal V came out earlier this year in CABIOS:
> <2>Higgins, D.G., Bleasby, A.J. and Fuchs, R. (1992)
> <2>CLUSTAL V: improved software for multiple sequence alignment.
> <2>Computer Applications in the Biosciences (CABIOS), 8(2):189-191.
> 
> Since Des was the first author of the publication mentioned above, he probably
> spell the journal name correctly. I still haven't checked the real journal yet.
	I am very sorry about my error.  You are right in that the correct
name is Computer Applications in the BiOSciences.  (I went to the library
to make sure this is the correct name!)  
	Also to clearup one more point, it is published by the IRL press.
Although it is the same people who publish the Nucleic Acids Research, you
may have to take a nice walk to see who publishes NAR.
	Hope this clears it up a little bit.
Raj Shankarappa
bsh@med.pitt.edu
>
From: coady@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Coady Michael)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Kinemage
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:43:53 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Does anybody know if the Kinemages program (from Jane and David Richardson)
is to be made available at an ftp site?  I just read about it in the
Biophysical Journal, and would really like to get a copy for Mac or (when
it's ready) for the PC.  Unfortunately, the diskette had already been removed
from the library's copy, so I couldn't use it.  

Mike Coady
COADY@ERE.UMONTREAL.CA
From: ajp2o@crocus.medicine.rochester.edu (Anthony J. Persechini)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: RE: Macaw 1.05 and General Printing Error
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:05:25 GMT
Reply-To: ajp2o@crocus.medicine.rochester.edu
Distribution: bionet
Organization: University of Rochester

I also have never gotten Macaw 1.05 to print, either to my laserjet or to a file
as a .plt file (as described in the documentation). I switched back to 1.03.

Perhaps someone could tell me what I am missing by using 1.03 instead of 1.05.

-- 
Anthony Persechini
Assistant Professor
University of Rochester School of Medicine
ajp2o@crocus.medicine.rochester.edu
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From: James Petts <pettsj@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Programming languages (A Christmas treat)
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7524971B8020855@visigoth.demon.co.uk>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:23:45 GMT
Organization: No Affiliation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d13
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:21:49 GMT

In article <199212141212.AA13338@csc.fi> Rob Harper, Rob.Harper@CSC.FI
writes:
> ______    How to Determine Which Programming Language You're Using
>(__  __)   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>  / /
> / /
>(_/

ROFL!!!

James Petts

********************************************************************
* "We use the classical theory on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays, *   
*  and the quantum theory on Tuesdays, Thursdays and Saturdays."   *
************************************** Wm. Bragg *******************
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From: gonnet@inf.ethz.ch (Gaston Gonnet)
Subject: Re: availability of fast phylogenetic tree codes
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Distribution: bionet
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:31:46 GMT

In article <9212101644.AA15862@t13.lanl.gov> asl@T13.LANL.GOV (Alan Lapedes) writes:
>I am interested in obtaining one or more phylogenetic tree codes that implements
>a conventionally accepted algorithm for producing trees. Apparently,
>phylogenetic tree algorithms seem to be a somewhat controversial topic -- hence
>my request for code that, even if not universally accepted, has at least been
>analysed and debated in the literature.
>
>(1) Would prefer C, Fortran is OK.
>(2) Would like to be able to produce not only  trees, but also a
>    parsimonious reconstruction of the sequences at the nodes.
>(3) Would like to be able to handle either nucleotides, or amino acids as input.
>(4) Would particularly like to be able to handle a few hundred amino acid
>    sequences, up to a couple of hundred residues long as input.
>(5) It's critical to us to have reasonable speed: in our admittedly naive hands
>    the "protpars" code for a problem the size of point (4) above takes too 
>    long.
>(6) If the code is in C or Fortran we could possibly run it on supercomputers
>    for a speed-up. If the code is already ported to vector or parallel
>    machines we would appreciate information on acquiring the code, or accessing
>    the machine (if a service is provided).
>
>
>Thank you,
>Alan Lapedes
>
======================================================
Our automatic server implements a basic tree (Felsenstein's algorithm)
with several optimizations.  People are generally happy with the trees
it produces.

  (1) - it is written in Darwin, which is written in C.
  (2) - not for all nodes, only for the root of the tree
  (3) - only peptides
  (4) - no problem, we have tried it with more than 500 sequences
  (5) - Depends on what you consider fast.  For a tree with n sequences
	most of these algorithms are O(n^3) so it depends heavily on
	the number of sequences.

  You can make up your own mind on the quality of the trees and
on the speed by using the automatic server.  Send a message with
"help AllAll" as body to cbrg@inf.ethz.ch.  If you like it, you can
obtain your own copy of Darwin.

Gaston H. Gonnet, Informatik, ETH Zurich.
From: DKIRSCHT@UVMVM.EARN (David Kirschtel)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: ?CABIOS?
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:25:32 GMT
Distribution: bionet
Original-To: bio-software@UK.AC.DARESBURY

pardon my ignorance but could somebody please give me the full name of
"CABIOS"....I've seen it mentioned several time on this but haven't been able
to track it down.
 
thanks in advance
 
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From: thurman@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Action Potential Simulation
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:22:26 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Dec 15,
I'm looking for software to use in the teaching of animal and human
physiology.I currently have several programs by Meiss for membrane potentials,
muscle contraction and cardiac output. What I need is other, inexpensive
pieces of biological software for teaching at the college junior-senior level.
In particular, I need a simulation of an action potential. I have the Randell
version for Apple but I currently need an MS-DOS verison. Anyone know where I
pickup one and its approximate price ?

Carl Thurman/University Northern Iowa
       Biology Dept.
From: PARSONS_A@snd01.pcr.co.uk
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Use of Internet by Industrialists
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:12:57 GMT
Distribution: bionet
Original-To: BIO-SOFT <BIO-SOFT@UK.AC.DARESBURY>

Bioneteers,

I am forwarding this on behalf of another board.

Tony Parsons - Pfizer Central Research (UK) parsons_a@snd01.pcr.co.uk

==============================================================================
From: Thomas J Cozzolino <RBNTJC@COM.ROHMHAAS.ROHVM1>
Subject: Industry Use of Internet?
To: Multiple recipients of list CHMINF-L <CHMINF-L@EDU.INDIANA.UCS.IUBVM>

Folks,

Our company is in the process of gathering information on Internet
usage by other companies, especially other chemical companies.

o  Is anyone willing to share their experiences, successes, and
   usage patterns regarding the Internet?

o  What are the value-added benefits of using the Internet for
   your Research and Business?

o  What are the biggest challenges facing you, the providers of
   Internet services?

o  How difficult has it been to change your particular corporate or
   Information Technology / Information Services cultures to embrace
   this "brave new world" view?

Any and all help is appreciated.  I will post a summary if there is
interest.  Also, if I should post this to other newsgroups, that
information is also much appreciated.

Thanks for reading.  Please reply directly if possible, or to this
newsgroup of you prefer.
+============================================+
|   Thomas J. Cozzolino - Rohm and Haas Co.   =
|   InterNet:    tcozz@rohmhaas.com            =
|                                               =
|     Internet Access for Everyone..             =
|         Isn't it time?                          =
|                                                  =
|   - Opinions expressed are my own, not            =
|     necessarily those of Rohm and Haas Company     =
+=====================================================+
Newsgroups: bionet.software
From: broe@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Bruce Roe)
Subject: Re: GCG unix     -   up-arrow in history function????
Originator: usenet@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:24:00 GMT
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Oklahoma - University Computing Services

In article <1992Dec14.090042.4792@pollux.lu.se>, Bo.Servenius@wblag.lu.se (Bo Servenius) writes...
>Dear Netters:
> 
>I am just in the process of moving my GCG package from a VMS system
>to a SunOS UNIX one. Being used to use the up-arrow in VMS I was 
>frustrated when I realised that I have to use the csh with GCG under unix.
>And csh in contrast to tcsh can not support up-arrow in the history
>function. Anyone out there who has come up with a solution to this
>problem???????

Hi,
	The command !-1 on SunOS v1.1.1 is equivalant to the up arrow
on a VMS system.  I have absolutely no idea where this is documented.
If you type the word history, then you will see a listing of previous
commands issued and say you want to type command number 5 on the list,
then type !-5.  
Just another one of those intuitive SunOS or Unix features ;-)
Cheers......bruce
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Xref: sparky bionet.software:2266 bionet.molbio.proteins:272
From: mbthm@s-crim1.dl.ac.uk (T.H.L. Murcott)
Newsgroups: bionet.software,bionet.molbio.proteins
Subject: Re: Help wanted: alignment program for proteins
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:01:33 GMT
Distribution: bionet
Organization: Daresbury Lab., Warrington, U.K.
NNTP-Posting-Host: seqnet.dl.ac.uk

In article <92346.200424U53077@uicvm.uic.edu> Dong Li 312-996-0509 <U53077@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Dear netters,
>
>I am looking for a better alignment program for the alignments of
>60 different proteins at same time.
>The program I am using now can line up only
>16 proteins at same time, and I have to divide all 60 proteins into
>4 groups to line them up separately, then line the 4 groups up by
>hands. It is laborious and easy to make mistakes.
>
>I would be very grateful if you provide any information about it
>(or just tell me the site and dir. name so that I can FTP it.)
>
>Thank you very much for attention.
>
>*************************************************************************
>With malice toward none, with charity for all..........  Abraham Lincoln
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------
>        Dong Li   Telephone: (312) 996-0509    Fax: (312) 413-2435
>     Internet: u53077@uicvm.uic.edu     Bitnet: u53077@uicvm.bitnet
>Dept. Biological Sciences, Univ. Illinois at Chicago, Chicago, IL 60680
>*************************************************************************

I have had alot of success with clustal V
 (five) which can certainly cope with more than 16 sequences at a time.  It is
available by anonymous ftp from the major molecular biology ftp sites.  I would
go and find out the details of sitename and directory but I am a novice at UNIX
and rn and am pretty sure that I would not be able to get back to your message
again to reply!!

Good hunting

Toby "I dont understand unix but I can spell potato".

Toby Murcott		Murcott@uk.ac.bristol.bsa
Dept. of Biochemistry
University of Bristol
UK.
From: danj@WELCHGATE.WELCH.JHU.EDU (Dan Jacobson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: RE: Macaw 1.05 and General Printing Error
Date: 18 Dec 92 22:20:45 GMT
Distribution: bionet


There have been several coments about printing problems with Macaw 1.05.

Well Macaw 1.06 is out and the release notes say:

"Release notes for version 1.06,  released 12-18-92

 1. Fixed sporadic printing problem (I hope) that was present in
    versions 1.04 and 1.05 (sigh)."


Note the release date - how's that for up-to-date ? :-)


Dan Jacobson

danj@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu
From: mzhang@XIBALBA.CSHL.ORG (Michael Zhang)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: 3D display of pdb data?
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:42:34 GMT
Distribution: bionet

Dear fellow netters,
What softwares can display 3D pdb data on DECstation or SPARCstation which
allow a user to look at structures from different angles? And how to obtain
them?
Michael Zhang
mzhang@cshl.org
Newsgroups: bionet.software
From: oberste@fcs260c.ncifcrf.gov (Oberste)
Subject: Re: X-Server for PCs?
Organization: Frederick Cancer Research and Development Center
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:35:23 GMT

In article <zxmkr08.724066845@studserv> zxmkr08@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Cornelius Krasel) writes:
>Hello netters,
>is anybody of you aware of some piece of software which can open a
>connection to an X-host and runs under Windows 3.1? Public domain
>or shareware is preferred :-) (Specifically we think of
>something similar to MacX).
>Thanks in advance, Cornelius.

I haven't seen any PD/SW X/Servers, but I would love to find one :-).
We use the DOS version of HCL-Exceed Plus, from Hummingbird Communications.
It works with several different TCP/IP transports (we use FTP Software's
PC/TCP). A windows version is also available. They can be reached at:

Hummingbird Communications Ltd.
2900 John Street, Unit 4
Markham, Ontario
CANADA L3R 5G3
416-470-1203
416-470-1207 (fax)

Good luck (and let us know if you find PD/SW).

-Steve


-- 
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LCMS, PRI, NCI-FCRDC
PO Box B                        "Never put off until tomorrow that which
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Newsgroups: bionet.software
From: kramer@news.miami.edu (Jack Kramer)
Subject: Re: GCG unix     -   up-arrow in history function????
Organization: University of Miami, RSMAS
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 23:36:55 GMT

In article <14DEC199206240630@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu> broe@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (Bruce Roe) writes:
>	The command !-1 on SunOS v1.1.1 is equivalant to the up arrow
>on a VMS system.  I have absolutely no idea where this is documented.
>If you type the word history, then you will see a listing of previous
>commands issued and say you want to type command number 5 on the list,
>then type !-5.  
>Just another one of those intuitive SunOS or Unix features ;-)
>Cheers......bruce
>  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Try "man csh" and read the History section.

jack

Newsgroups: bionet.software
From: wrp@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Bill Pearson)
Subject: Re: GCG unix     -   up-arrow in history function????
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:39:17 GMT


	We routinely use the tcsh as the login shell with gcg.

	The appropriate newsgroup is bit.listserv.info-gcg

Bill Pearson
Newsgroups: bionet.software
From: nenno@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Mario Nenno [Biologie])
Subject: Re: X-Server for PCs?
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany
Distribution: eunet
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:42:03 GMT

zxmkr08@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Cornelius Krasel) writes:

>Hello netters,
>is anybody of you aware of some piece of software which can open a
>connection to an X-host and runs under Windows 3.1? Public domain
>or shareware is preferred :-) (Specifically we think of
>something similar to MacX).
>Thanks in advance, Cornelius.
>--
>/* Cornelius Krasel, Department of Physiological Chemistry, U Tuebingen    */ 

Hallo Cornelius and all others,

there is a program called _XVision_ which does want you want. It runs under 
MS Win3.1. But it is commercial. How about using a Un*x-clone linke _linux_.
I heard it has an X-server.
From: kristoff@net.bio.net (David Kristofferson)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Re. ?CABIOS?
Date: 12 Dec 92 03:02:19 GMT
Distribution: bionet
Organization: BIOSCI International Newsgroups for Biology

> Computer Applications in BIOmedical Sciences

Close, but not quite.  Actually it's 

Computer Applications in the Biosciences
From: SJJ@ICBR.IFAS.UFL.EDU ("JONG, SONG-MUH J")
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re. ?CABIOS?
Date: 12 Dec 92 09:53:00 GMT
Distribution: bionet

I must confess that I did not check the existence of the journal CABIOS. I only
took the reference from the following message:

<1>From: bsh@med.pitt.edu (Basavaraju Shankarappa)
<1>To: LETTIERE_DAJ@CCSUA.CTSTATEU.EDU, bio-soft@net.bio.net
<1>Subject: Re:  Biocomputing journals & alternatives to dissection?
<1>
<1>1.  Computer Applications in Biomedical Sciences; a NAR publication
<1>also abbreviated as CABIOS
<1>
<1>2.  Computer Methods and Programs in Biomedicine; affiliated to British
<1>Medical Informatics Society; Managing Editor: Uppsala University
<1>Data Center P.O. Box 2103 S-750 02 Uppsala Sweden
<1>
<1>3.  Computers and Biomedical Research; Dr. Homer R. Warner Dept of
<1>Medical Informatics, Univ of Utah School of Medicine
<1>Salt Lake City Utah 84132
<1>
<1>4.  Computers in Biology and Medicine; I think the contact person is
<1>Ms. Blaire V. Mossman  National Biomedical Research Foundation
<1>Georgetown University Medical Center
<1>3900 Reservoir Road, NW
<1>Washington DC 20007
<1>
<1>As to your second question, do you really think you can replace the 
<1>feel for the dissection with any computer program?  
<1>Raj Shankarappa
<1>bsh@med.pitt.edu
<1>
<1>

But as David pointed out, CABIOS should stand for Computer Applications in the
Biosciences. Here is another mail message:

<2>
<2>From: Des.Higgins@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE (Des Higgins)
<2>Subject: RE:ClustalV
<2>
<2>The paper describing Clustal V came out earlier this year in CABIOS:
<2>
<2>Higgins, D.G., Bleasby, A.J. and Fuchs, R. (1992)
<2>CLUSTAL V: improved software for multiple sequence alignment.
<2>Computer Applications in the Biosciences (CABIOS), 8(2):189-191.
<2>
<2>Des Higgins
<2>
<2>European Molecular Biology Laboratory
<2>Heidelberg
<2>Germany           Higgins@EMBL-Heidelberg.DE
<2>
<2>

Since Des was the first author of the publication mentioned above, he probably
spell the journal name correctly. I still haven't checked the real journal yet.
The availability of computers and networks makes one too lazy to go to the
library to read real things. What a pity!
From: JRR@MBDS.NRC.CA
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: RE: GCG unix - up-arrow in history function????
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:30:41 GMT
Distribution: bionet

tcsh has been installed as the default login shell on our SGI server.
We then installed and are running GCG in this environment, and haven't
yet had any trouble with tcsh. The UP arrow key works fine with the history
file. No modification is needed for installing GCG in tcsh.

Daping Tan
National Research Council Canada
daping@nrcbsa.bio.nrc.ca
ping@snd.cisti.nrc.ca
From: RODRIGOL@BIOMED.UIO.NO (Rodrigo Lopez)
Newsgroups: bionet.software
Subject: Re: Tm values
Date: 16 Dec 92 09:28:41 GMT
Organization: NORWEGIAN EMBNET NODE
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1glsr9INNada@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU> vivien@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU writes:

> 
> Hello netters,
> 
> I'm posting this on behalf of a colleague;
> 
> He is looking for a program that will predict Tm values for 
> DNA strands. He is running urea/formamide gradient gels.
> He has heard of a program called Melt87.  
>  - is this program public domain/sharware/commercial?
>  - how can one obtain a copy?
>  - are there any other programs out there (preferably PD) that do this
>    sort of thing?
> 
> Any information would be much appreciated
> 
> Vivien
> 
> ********************************************************************
> 
> Vivien Bonazzi              email vivien@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au
> 
> ********************************************************************
> 
> 


There are several programs that come to mind here: 
If you are using a PC you can try:
MELT.EXE version 2.0

The formal bit:

This program remains the property of John Nash and the National Research
Council of Canada, copyright (C) 1989, 1990.  All rights are reserved by
the copyright holders.  This program may be freely used by anybody subject
to the following conditions:

This one is available from most major bio-ftp sites, for example:

ftp.embl-heidelberg.de
directory: /pub/software/dos


Another one, also called MELT is one of mine and is a GCG Application.
Please contact me if you have the GCG programs available and I will
send you the sources.

Rodrigo Lopez
Norwegian EMBnet node

e-mail: rodrigol@biomed.uio.no
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