HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu (Roy S. Rapoport)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: A hug request and a general growl at the world
Date: 6 Jan 1993 02:34:35 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

First things first:

*swipes Jim off his feet* 
*pulls him closer*
*hugs him closely, warmly, and a bunch of other good adjectives*
*gives him a gentle backrub*

In article <C0C2ED.Cxr@news.udel.edu> seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:

->I am quite annoyed with being closetted.  I want to be out and sincere with 
->the people who I meet and know.

From personal experience, I can say it's a nice feeling ... 

->I have a question for the bunch.  Where does the balance lie between discretion
->and safety on one hand and sincerity and openness on the other?

Aaaah ... and there you hit the Big one.

It depends on where you are, doesn't it?

I live in the bay area.  My perception of this area is as SafeSpace.  For
me, therefore, discreteness and safety are not an issue ... but sincerity
and openness are.  I can be as out as I want, and I _use_ that opportunity,
because for me, coming out to strangers is a wonderful feeling.  

There are exceptions: I will try very hard ot be a bit more subdued when
outing myself may cause the implicit outing of others around me ... but
those are rare.

Hugs to Jim again  ...

-roy

-- 
Roy S. Rapoport     internet: rsr@soda.berkeley.edu      bitnet: rsrsoda@ucbocf
anonymous mail: wi.5836@n7kbt.rain.com        androphile, gynophile, kerryphile
"What I used to think is me / is just a faded memory." -NIN
DISCLAIMER:  I speak for the University of California at Berkeley.  Rrrright.
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: eowyn@ravel.udel.edu (Zoe Antonia Velonis)
Subject: general dissatisfaction
Keywords: hugs, angst
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 22:47:03 GMT

This is a quick post since the site is closing around me, but...
It's been so long since I've posted that all my posts I sent as personal mail
(oops... can you say dense?)
BUT
having gone through a generally stressful time with one of my nearer&dearer
net.friends/something, I could use a whole passel of hugs.

I'm also extending hugs to everyone...especially all those muffins I missed.
If I had more energy and cheerfulnes, I'd be pouncing.

And since it went out in a personal post to Steve, I'll ask again...
Anyone on net read Sandman?  My brother (bless his evil little heart) gave
me the first two of *A Game of You* and I've managed to round up most of the
rest; but I'm always eager to find people to drool over Morpheus with.  Saw
a guy on campus yesterday who had a black jeans jacket on with Morpheus painted
on the back.  I physically accosted him and drooled over it.  It helped that I  knew him!

Zoe (who is keeping a stiff upper lip and wants to know when exactly Joe is
coming, since Nick stubbornly refuses to tell her)
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From: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk (Graham Toal)
Subject: therbligs
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 11:24:29 +0000

This was mail, but it bounced...

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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 09:32:26 GMT
From: Graham Toal <gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk>
Message-Id: <9301090932.AA03072@pizzabox.demon.co.uk>
To: gtoal@pizzabox.demon.co.uk, ljt3@pl122e.eecs.lehigh.edu
Subject: Re: My 5-year HS Reunion... the results!

	>Hey, while we're on the subject, will someone please tell me what the heck
	>a 'zwicky box' is.  I get really tired of reading Heinlein stories with
	>lots of Americanisms in them that he never bothers to explain.  I've tracked
	>most of them down (like Gandy dancer, and Therblig), but that one still
	>has me stumped.

	Graham,

	If you find out, can you tell me (and those other 2 as well)?  Please?

	I have a sneaking suspicion (from context) that 'therbligs' are problems
	with an implementation, but other than that, I have no clue.

Therblig is 'Gilbreth' backwards, and Gilbreth was a time&motion pioneer.

He was the one who did the famous experiment that showed that if you
increased the lighting in a plant, the workers performed better.  Then he
showed that if you *decreased* the lighting in a plant, the workers
performed better - then he finally twigged that if you make *any* change in
working conditions, and show the workers that you're interested in them,
they work better (for a time, till the novelty wears off)

Heinlein's use of 'therblig' is as a minimum unit of effort, therefore
the problem of operations research is to reduce therbligs and maximise
output.

Regards
Graham
From: sa121@cl.cam.ac.uk (S. Arrowsmith)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: general dissatisfaction
Keywords: hugs, angst
Date: 10 Jan 93 16:07:08 GMT
Reply-To: SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk
Organization: Glad to be Sad

In article <C0LzAF.FzL@news.udel.edu> eowyn@ravel.udel.edu (Zoe Antonia Velonis) writes:
>
>Anyone on net read Sandman?
>
Irregularly -- I have a number of comic-reading friends, and often borrow
stuff from them.  Personally, I prefer Shade to Sandman for drooling over,
but of course YMMV....

--
\S
SA121@phx.cam.ac.uk | "Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for
        ___         |  some people it is a complete substitute for life."
        \X/         |     -- Andrew Brown, The Independent
From: pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: A hug request and a general growl at the world
Date: 7 Jan 1993 21:34:32 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: citron.sw.stratus.com

In article <1993Jan6.223413.15157@tfs.com> michael@tfs.com (Your message will cost the net hundreds if not thousands of dollars to send everywhere.) writes:
>In article <C0C2ED.Cxr@news.udel.edu> seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
>>
>>I am quite annoyed with being closetted.  I want to be out and sincere with the
>>people who I meet and know.
>>I have a question for the bunch.  Where does the balance lie between discretion
>>and safety on one hand and sincerity and openness on the other?
>>
>Interesting you should ask this. I struggle a lot with this myself. I also
>ask myself, when I'm outing myself, whether I'm doing it for shock value
>(or other reaction) vs. a sincere and honest revealing of myself. Sometimes
>the answer is obvious, but often it's in the grey area. In those cases I
>tend towards outing, because I feel strongly that the more out we are,
>the more accepted we will (one day) become. If my motives aren't always
>pure, my action still furthers the cause, I think.


Interestingly, I had a discussion about this just the other night.  The
comfortable balance seems to different for different people.  There were
a number of women who wanted to be open with pretty much everyone,
on the grounds
that then they didn't have to expend energy on being closeted.  Then
there were some in the middle, those who didn't want to come out to
those that they felt would give them a hard time, but were pretty open.

And then there were a few who were all or mostly all in the closet,
who were out to very few.  They seemed to feel that it was nobody's
business but their own and their lover's.

I'm not out to all that many people yet (I'm not out at work,
for example), but I belong to the "out feels better" camp,
partly because I spent such a long time in the closet, and it
feels very, well, self-affirming to come out to people. The most
helpful questions for me have been, "how will coming out make
me feel?", and "will I expend more energy coming out (and possibly
being hassled, or whatever), or staying closeted?".

Peggy
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From: winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: I'm coming!
Date: 4 Jan 1993 23:36:08 GMT
Organization: Tiny Income
Distribution: world
Reply-To: winsor@teng.ppd.ti.com (js)
NNTP-Posting-Host: geek.teng.ppd.ti.com

Don't mean to be forward, but.....

I will be in the SF/Bay Area from 1/18 - 1/29.

I'd like to meet soc.bi'ers while I'm there
(H I N T: Muffy, Roy, ...jeff(?))

Please e-mail me.

john
(formerly "js", but I stopped being lazy about it.)
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From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: A hug request and a general growl at the world
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:31:58 GMT


-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
Give me life, Give me pain,         It just means use your imagination. 
Give me myself again.  Tori Amos.            Billy Bragg 
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: vdijk@io.tudelft.nl
Subject: Re: YES! It works!!!
Organization: TU Delft, Faculty IO
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 21:01:40 GMT

In article <C0n5w3.8q6@newcastle.ac.uk>, J.W.Harley@newcastle.ac.uk (Jon Harley) writes:
> 
> So how does one post remotely? Other than to soc-bi@somewhere, I've forgotten
> where, Berkeley?
> 

soc-bi@cs.utexas.edu
Just one week after I got this to work, my sysop announced the new News
version (vax/vms :-( ) now could post globally too.  After 18 months! of
forced muffinism.  I suspect foul play..

Casper

Casper G.C. van Dijk               "Broken words,
Delft University of Technology      never meant to be spoken"
the Netherlands                                    Bob Dylan
From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: treating men as sex toys
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:36:56
Organization: Natural Language Incorporated
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NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk's message of Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:21:30 GMT

In article <C0r1Fy.M1z@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>In article <MUFFY.93Jan6103005@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan6.105512.2001@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
>>>What do you mean by "emotional partner" (as distinct from a close friend)?
>>Well, for me, it really isn't that distinct, actually...*smile*.  I
>>realized a couple of years ago that the only difference between my close
>>friends and my lovers was how much I wanted to have sex with them.

>Yeh.  No... not "wanting to", but "having", because otherwise it gets
>far too complicated - by your definition, one of my lovers is thousands
>of miles away and I've never met him.  Sort of a "pre-pro-lover",
>perhaps.

*grin*...but isn't "the thought as good as the deed?"  (Actually not, at
least for me!)  I sort-of agree with you, but I *have* had sex with
friends without (in my opinion) being lovers with them.  So, I guess for
me it's really the intersection of wanting a lot and having...*smile*.

Muffy
--

Muffy Barkocy                      | ~Never had a lot of faith in human beings/
muffy@mica.berkeley.edu            |  but sometimes we manage to shine/like a
"amorous inclinations"? Aha! I'm   |  light on a hill beaming out to space/from
not "not straight," I'm *inclined*.|  somewhere hard to find~ - Bruce Cockburn
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From: seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore)
Subject: Re: Selective Memory?
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:56:54 GMT

In article <Bznx9x.Msw@cck.coventry.ac.uk> idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) writes:
>>
>Me too.  It's them Americans and them motssers that have done it.
>
>				Kay
>-- 
You are definitely gettin spanked for this one buddy.
Well spanked. :)
Feb you say?

-- 
Jim Dilmore - seamus@brahms.udel.edu    or    dilmore@che.udel.edu 
   Deconstruct your Gender          Safe sex doesn't mean no sex.          
Give me life, Give me pain,         It just means use your imagination. 
Give me myself again.  Tori Amos.            Billy Bragg 
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: drakon@shell.portal.com (Harry Benjamin Gibson)
Subject: Re: This is only a test
Keywords: I'm back
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:09:45 GMT

pfieland@citron.sw.stratus.com (Peggy Fieland) writes:


>Hi, and welcome back.

>Now come on, Unix isn't that bad, it's just those arcane
>two-and-three letter command names and all those obscure
>switches, and those three or four flavors of shells...

ACK!!! shells have flavors?!? Great, this is worse than sub atomic physics.

Ben Gibson (who works where they make thier own anti-matter but they won't let              me take any of it home *pout**pout*)


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From: orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons)
Subject: Re: Purity
Organization: Department of Atomic Text Units
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:00:50 GMT

In article <93005.234647SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
[about using bizarre labels for himself]

|Well, I've got several objectives in answering a 'what are you?'
|question; one is to give them something that they don't have bin
|for.
  .
  .
  .
|Another objective is to find out how annoyed the person who asked
|the question gets when someone does not co-operate by providing the
|name of their bin.

   The people who compulsively sort people into bins will have a
bin for _everyone_, despite how you try to get out.  You really and
truly can't win against an anal-compulsive sorting disorder.
                ____
  david parsons \bi/ "bin 7, yes, the one with the flashing neon tubes
                 \/   and radwaste warning"
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:37:51 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Purity
 <1993Jan8.031020.181@tcsi.com> <93007.234712SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
 <1993Jan8.211254.1091@tcsi.com>

In article <1993Jan8.211254.1091@tcsi.com>, miket@hermes.tcs.com (Michael Turner
nmscore Assoc.) says:
>
>[Graydon]
>        I had thought the discussion was about the theoretical instances of
>        that sort of question, not how personally to asnwer.
>[Turner]
>        Well, you're either lying now, or you were lying in your original
>        post, in which you claimed useful personal experience with this
>        answer.
That basis for offering that answer was that I have found it useful;
I didn't think the discussion was 'how do you answer' but 'how can these
questions be answered'.  There are many much more creative ways to answer,
including 'mostly carbon'.

>[Graydon]
>        I've no sexual experience with other men; not adverse to the
>        idea, but women are more appealing aesthetically.
>[Turner]
>        Aesthetics, schmaesthetics -- we're talking about lust here,
>        Graydon.
What's lust in your lexicon?  An impulse to kiss someone with passion?
(both) Or making an attempt to do it? (just women)

>
>[Graydon]
>        Emotionally responses are about the same, except that I've (so
>        far) only had 'loved the Other above all things' reactions to
>        women.
>[Turner]
>        About the same except when they are radically different.  Gotcha.
Only ever been three of those, and those reactions are definately all
tangled up in the sort of crazed romanticism you'd expect in a person
who spent his adolescence wanting to be Galahad.  That's a fairly small
subset of the women I'm been intimate with, not a requirement.  I suspect
that the women only nature of those reactions has more to do with
the myth than anything innate to me.  (*are* there homeorotic instances
of romantic (in the sense of Tristan and Iseult, romantic) stories?)

>
>[Graydon]
>        Presently entangled, quite delightfully, with someone even more
>        vanilla than self.
>[Turner]
>        Not the flavor I would have guessed, but it's your tongue.
>---
>Michael Turner
>miket@tcs.com
Dare I ask?  (pedantic ripple? )

Lily pale willow slender elvenfair redheads with a brain can be
any flavour they like, just about, and I'm likely to find a way to
cope.  :]

Graydon
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
saundrsg@               "Praise then Darkness and Creation unfinished"
   qucdn.queensu.ca                   - U. K. LeGuin
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From: safarj@aix.rpi.edu (Jonah Emanuel Safar)
Subject: Urgent notice!
Summary: Not enough pillows.
Keywords: Make up your own.
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 10:45:41 GMT

Warning!  It has been noted by our professional and tireless staff that not
enough fluff has been posted to soc.bi.  This may cause numerous detremental
effects, including, severly annoyed postees, serious thought, ppermanent
frowns, fewer government dollars spent and more boring reading for those
of us who can't take ourselves seriously.
We have given this problem serious (for us) consideration, and have
decided that there is but one solution.  More fluff must be posted.
Tell your friends.  Tell your enemies.  Tell your friend's friends.
Tell your enemy's friends.  And tell your mother-in-law too.
<Urgent call for fluff in soc.bi morse-code sound overlay>
We now return you to your regularly scheduled flame, thank you for your time.

-Points (We control the vertical... we control the...)
(Dragon in love...?  Or maybe just overtired and halluncinating.)
What fools these mortals be.
-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
 If the President won't do it to his wife, he'll do it to his Country. -Unknown
________________________________________________________________________________
Jonah E. Safar             R.P.I., Troy, NY              EMail to:safarj@rpi.edu
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker)
Subject: Re: Urgent notice!
Keywords: Make up your own.
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:02:43 GMT

In article <C0LLH5.F6y@news.udel.edu> seamus@ravel.udel.edu (James G Dilmore) writes:
>I have been one of the major perpetrators of these acts, and while I don't
>apologize I will try to add to the levity of the group inthe future.
>(boy that was stiff)

Did I tell you that I do (in)decent massage? :)

>OK boing.  Let me loosen up here.  

By the time I've finished with you...

>If anyone wants them, have not only hugs kisses rubs and gropes
>but also full fledged investigations of bodies with your favorite organ
>(that does not include my spleen), tongue audits, ice cubes, candle wax,
>and peach schnapps(if you haven't tried it do.  It evaporates o so nicely
>and it tastes o so good. :). 

[Kay wonders just how long he can persuade his funding authority that he
needs to visit Delaware for...]

>Jim, who is posting this in the nude.

And I'm running Michael Nyman through the audio processor.   O joy.

		Kay


-- 
the Crisco Kid: quiet, shy, mono, Armani-suited.  Not.  idx009@uk.ac.cov.cck
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: safarj@aix.rpi.edu (Jonah Emanuel Safar)
Subject: Re: Conversions
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:58:08 GMT


>>I have always found them a little big myself.  :)


>Perfectly sized said this size queen - but try putting a condom
>on one with your mouth.  Good practice - if you need it that is!

I don't believe I'm actually on the same _net_ as these people...
<Grin>
I just love sick minds.. makes me feel right at home.
<Starts distributing hugs.>
Why here?  Why now?
Why not.

-Points.  (Strange dragon)
-- 
________________________________________________________________________________
 If the President won't do it to his wife, he'll do it to his Country. -Unknown
________________________________________________________________________________
Jonah E. Safar             R.P.I., Troy, NY              EMail to:safarj@rpi.edu
From: becki@Ingres.COM (Rebecca E. Tants)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bloody Media
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:42:41 GMT
Reply-To: becki@squid.ingres.com (Rebecca E. Tants)
Distribution: soc.bi
Organization: Ingres, The ASK Group
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Harry Benjamin Gibson (drakon@shell.portal.com) wrote:
: This is an easy one really. What is happening here is that Nureyev had 
: more fun than most people. The same with Freddy Mercury. There is something 
: in most      peoples psycies that just hate it when some one is having 
: more fun/better sex/  greater life than they are. Its jealousy pure and 
: simple. Its childish, immatureand irrational, but also so human. Most people 
: can't see the simple fact that   they can do all those things too.

What's that old line?  A slut is anyone who is getting it more often then you...

Becki
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: kay@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Kay Dekker)
Subject: Re: Daoism, Pooh, and Bisexuals
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Warwick University, England
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:20:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.205015.13136@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> arodgers@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Angus H Rodgers) writes:
>In <C0n4x7.8A0@newcastle.ac.uk>
>J.W.Harley@newcastle.ac.uk (Jon Harley) writes:
>>The yin-yang symbol has been used by bis;
>>for instance, Kay has a cute little yin-yang sticker on his leather jacket
>>which changes colour depending on temperature.

It's a badge(button), actually.  There were a whole host of such items
in the shop, mostly animals (I got a dragon for Giles, I think), but
the y-y really appealed to me.

>The temperature of what? :-)

of that to which it is adjacent.

What is it about bis and thermochromes?

>>[Disclaimer: I only have a vague notion about yin and yang, and I can't
>>possibly allow myself to look into it just now because I should be working
>>on the T****s. I hope someone (Jim?) will expand on the subject.]
>        ^^^^^^
>Aack! You said it! You said the WORD!

The T****s?  Well, the important thing is to get Leela to help.  A few
taps with the sonic screwdriver should be useful.

>[Goes away and lies down, sobbing.]

No need to be jealous of Jon, just cos he's a Timelord, Gus.

				Kay
-- 
the Crisco Kid: quiet, shy, mono, Armani-suited.  Not.  idx009@uk.ac.cov.cck
From: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: treating men as sex toys
Date: 13 Jan 93 01:00:54 GMT
Reply-To: pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Paul Crowley)
Organization: Edinburgh University

Quoting idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid) in article <C0r1Fy.M1z@cck.coventry.ac.uk>:
>In article <MUFFY.93Jan6103005@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
>>In article <1993Jan6.105512.2001@infodev.cam.ac.uk> gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
>>>
>>>What do you mean by "emotional partner" (as distinct from a close friend)?
>>
>>Well, for me, it really isn't that distinct, actually...*smile*.  I
>>realized a couple of years ago that the only difference between my close
>>friends and my lovers was how much I wanted to have sex with them.
>
>Yeh.  No... not "wanting to", but "having", because otherwise it gets
>far too complicated

But Kay, you want to sleep with nearly all your best friends.

And nearly all your best friends want to sleep with you.
  __                                  _____
\/ o\ Paul Crowley   pdc@dcs.ed.ac.uk \\ //
/\__/ Trust me. I know what I'm doing. \X/
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Subject: Re: Introduction, or De-Muffining
From: woodhous@latcs2.lat.oz.au (Joe P Woodhouse)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 04:53:23 GMT
Organization: Comp Sci, La Trobe Uni, Australia

tweaver@nyx.cs.du.edu (T.C.Weaver) writes:
> safarj@jec311.its.rpi.edu (Jonah Emanuel Safar) writes:
>>what is the perfect height?
>
>Of course, the more people there are in a configuration, the more chance you
>have to get the heights well-matched.

   Precisely!

   (Having an amazing time so far with my trip, BTW... [grin!]).

Joe.

  / Joe Woodhouse        / I'm just a sweet bisexual...   / Hello, there.
 / Latrobe University   /    (think - Rocky Horror)      / Threesomes are fun.
/ Melbourne, Australia / Music. Magic. Mathematics. Me. / I like cats! (miaow!)
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