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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:41:05 CDT
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From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell%PANAM1.PANAM.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Top 25 News Submitters by User by number of articles for the
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Looks like those folks on soc.bi have gotten just a tad too secure in their own
litle group. Maybe we ought to cc: everything to their listserver and let 'em
see what it means to swim upstream with the big red fish.

-abh
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From:         QXN148%URIACC.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Ben 'n Jerry's

Oh, I'm jealous!  I want to go skiing, I want to go to Ben 'n Jerry's, I want
cookie dough cones. I want a Cherry Garcia tye-dye shirt with a cow on the back
I want it all!
Where did you go skiing?  Last week I went to Mt.Snow, the conditins were not
as good as they could have been.  They had snow the night before but they
hadn't been grooming much becasue they were getting ready to end the season.  I
ould have preferred to have gone to Mt. Stratton or Okemo.  To tell the truth
Vail or Park City top the list.
Am I contributing to the clutter?:)

Never planning on being, Dr. L.E. Alfieri
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From:         Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS%CWU.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gerund

>What is a Gerund?  I can't remember.   LJG

Basically, it's a verb ending in -ing being used as a noun.

-- Cooking is fun. --

I know this sounds rather simplistic to all the linguists/grammarians but I
never know who has a background in this stuff and who doesn't.

Chris
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Date: 9 Apr 92 10:17:12
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Natalie queries:

   > what, why, and how.  Today I am lucky if I can stop myself from ending my
   > sentences with a preposition ... alas, but thank God my mother isn't around

   Why would you consider it lucky to stop yourself from ending sentences with
   prepositions?

I've always understood that it was incorrect usage.  "Where's the car
_at_?"  "Who'd you go _with_?"  The first is redundant; you only need to
ask "Where's the car?" and the second should properly read, "With whom did
you go?"   I realize common usage is different from written, but it still
strikes me as incorrect when I write as I would speak colloquially.  

Mark me as one of the ones who strongly dislike (my mother's euphemism, not
my preferred verb) it when I hear "assk" pronounced "aks', or "idea" as
"id-er", or "wash" as "warsh".  Accepted pronunciation it may be in some
places but not to my ears -- and that carries over to the strident tones of
incorrect grammar usage, especially when I am the culprit.

//anne, looking forward to the Pre-bake Off tonight//
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita%EFF.ORG@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Reading to each other
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              92 7:09 pm

	Nico and I read to each other all the time.  Newspaper or
magazine articles, usenet postings, whatever.  Not too long ago he
read T.S. Eliot's "Old Possum's Book of Practical Cats" to me for
a few nights just before going to sleep.  Eliot is a wonderful poet
to read... Our next project is reading _Don Quiote_ together in the
original.

Rita
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From:         Tushar Samant <tushar%ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      asterix

Asterix comics are enormously popular even with yuppie parents in India.

I have a notion that a relatively large number of puns is translatable from
French to English. (Compared to, say, Swahili to English.) Don't know how
true it is. The very first Asterix joke I remember "getting" is : Here
comes the Roman army, and their name is legion. It killed me.

tushar
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From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG%MCIMAIL.COM@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: RE: in-jokes and such

>Sayeth        WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>

>> (BTW, my undergrad degree was in math, but I am a librarian (altho
>>  I'm not working in a traditional librarian position), so where do
>>  I fit in the headcount?)

>    Still in lurker mode by the latest stats.  Only two postings listed.

>The Ronin

Thanks for the update, but I was referring to the librarians vs.
(economists and mathematicians) headcount.  Or is it librarians vs.
economists vs. mathematicians?  If not, why not?  Just what is it
that economists and mathematicians feel they have in common? :-)

Dr. J


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From:         Tushar Samant <tushar%ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Bomber Crews and PhDssdnd

>That's okay, Dr. Steve...somebody had to do it...thank you for biting
>the bullet.
>ndh

I'll bite another, Nancy. What did Lyndon Johnson say ?
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 16:47:08 EDT
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From:         Judith Schrier <PRIMATE%BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Big Weekend
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Everyone enjoy the weekend, whether in a religious or
a secular way, or in some odd combination...

love, judith
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:28:34 -0400
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From:         droby%NOVA.TCS.TUFTS.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Re: roll call
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              08 Apr 92 18:15:00 MDT." <9204082103.aa08054@Nova.TCS.Tufts.EDU>

Saith The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>:
>Proclaimeth   droby@NOVA.TCS.TUFTS.EDU
>
>>       But only God can make a tree!
>
>> - Dr. DR, PhfffffDt
>
>     I take you aren't doing well in Data Structures?  Or are you being
>hit with File Structures first?
>
>The Ronin, who makes and breaks trees

I've been making and breaking trees too for some time now.  I guess that must
qualify us as gods.
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From:         Clint Darling <DARLING%CATLIN.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: budget sayings

>>  Does anyone
>> know where these terms came from and is 'budget' the right word or
>> a sound derrivative?
>
> _Oxford English Dictionary_ informs us that the word "budget" has as its
> first meaning a "pouch, bag, or wallet, usually of leather".  In the third
> meaning given, the word has evolved to "the contents of the pouch".  Then
> we find that "Budget" is often used as the title for a journal, such as
> _The Pall Mall Budget_.

>Well I'm not sure how (if at all) this applies, but it sounds as though
>it ought to.
>
>Tony H.
        Budget dervies from the French "bouger" meaning "to move, bounce
about". That what your little money pouch did when you didn't have enough
weight to keep it in place (perhaps in the intermediary stage as keeping
money in the codpiece moved to the "bougeotte" which later became a pocket).
The word "budget" moved to England where it first acquired its now
conventional meaning, thence *back* to France, impressed as they were by
famous British financial policy. All this, of course, before France's uni-
versally admired Five Year Plans.
        "To fuss" is to worry over trivial details. The OED gives us fuss-
pot, fuss-box, as well as fuss-budget. Fuss-pot seems the oldest, probably
because poeple have been cooking for longer than they've been budgeting. I
was amused that one of the citations for fussbudget is from *Gone With the
Wind*. Thank you, M. Mitchell.
        I'm behind enough in my reading today that this may already have
been treated earlier. If so, too bad: no apologies on this List!

Clint
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From:         Carol Goodson <CGOODSON%UGA.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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              8 Apr 1992 07:32:45 EST from <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU>

At least in my case, it's because I'm impressed and somewhat intimidated by
people who have "mastered" a subject which I know I never could.... I don't
want to bore you, Professor Computer Science or Professor Japanese.... I am
in awe of you, and wish I had your brains...
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From:         Carol Goodson <CGOODSON%UGA.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Tarmac rugrats

I too was subjected to vicious teasing as a child, and it left some
permanent scars on the old self-esteem.... I'm not sure what the answer is,
though... I found out that they turned out to be o.k. as adults... I did
accidentally spend 2 years as an elementary school teacher, and had some good
results with one-on-one counseling with the abusers... maybe we need to train
kids to complain about it, not just take it... I never told anyone, just
suffered in silence and shame.
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Subject:      Re: Gleanings (39)
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18) Acqeduct (Neal)

	Thoroughbred horseracing track in New York.  Mentioned when The Ronin's
	estimate of my words-l mail backlog was exactly equal to my actual
	total mail backlog -- I asked him which horse would win a specific
	race, in the hope that I could make a lot of money by betting on that
	nag.

40) Lisa Loopner/Bill Murray's Todd Delamuca (Neal)

	Characters in a continuing series of skits done by the 'original'
	Saturday Night Live cast.  Gilda Radner played Lisa Loopner, Jane
	Curtin was her mother Enid, and Bill Murray was her boyfriend Todd
	Delamuca.  Lisa and Todd were in high school, very nerdy, constantly
	'ragging on' (goodnaturedly insulting) each other.  Lisa often called
	Todd 'Pizzaface,' describing his pimples.

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From:         "The harder I work, the behinder I get"
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Subject:      Re: away for a few days
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Back in the 'burgh, safe and sound but very sunburned -- we hiked for several
hours on the road to the Maroon Bells, without sunscreen or even hats.
Luckily, it wasn't so warm that I wore a short-sleeve shirt.  But you can see
where my sleeves ended, by the line across the middle of my hands.

The 32-minute layover in O'Hare turned out to be a breeze -- the plane from
here to Chicago arrived EARLY, by over 10 minutes!  And I only had to stroll
about 15 gates.

Discussing the fact that I didn't set 'nomail,' The Ronin predicted:

>     I would guess 583 messages from WORDS-L.

Well, not quite.  I did have precisely 583 messages in my reader when I logged
on tonight, but a small but vocal minority were from other sources.  I'd
guesstimate that there were about 500 from you blabbermouths.

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:32:02 CDT
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Elvis stamp

> > I want the Elvis of 1955!
>
>      We are talking about stamps, not another plaything for you
> take home, Natalie.

Don't Be Cruel.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     President of Elvis Presley Fan Club, Jackson Mississippi,
     1956(?) with newspaper clipping to prove it if somebody can
     make a gif out of an aged, yellow, crumbling newspaper page
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Isaac Asimov

Asketh        Tony Harminc <TONY@VM1.MCGILL.CA>

> Is it true that Asimov would not fly ?  I've heard this repeated many times,
> but it sounds like one of those UL things.

     I seem to recall him saying as much in an introductory I read.  I
know he mentioned that anything over about 200 miles was too far away
to attend in one of his intro's for the Hugo anthologies.  He also
wrote of a character who felt that anything short of matter
transference was barbaric, which would closely match the alleged fear
of flying.

The Ronin
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From:         BUHITELA%SUNYJCC.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Re: childhoods...such as they were

From:   NAME: Les Buhite
        FUNC: Visual and Performing Arts
        TEL: (716) 665-5220                   <BUHITE, LES AT A1 AT JCCV03>
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<
<I hate the ow passe' bumper sticker "Shit Happens", but it is true...
<However, I recently saw one that said "Good Happens" and that is what
<I prefer to pay attention to....
<
<dan

my personal favorite is "Magic Happens!"

L.
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Administrivia

> Could you check and make sure my Bitnet unsub went through.  I'm starting
> to wonder about it.

I just sent the 'review' command since my copy of the list is at least
a few days old.  Will check.  I remember seeing some kind of sub or unsub
message for you lately but can't remember now what it was.

> (Little known fun fact: when you subscribe twice,
> you can be surprised by as many as 600 msgs per day!)

Well known fact by me -- I've kept both my bitnet and internet addresses
set on 'mail' the past several days while watching to see whether the
nameserver problem is gone.  Makes for LOTS of mail.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood%TENET.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: sad thought
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On Tue, 14 Apr 1992, The Ronin wrote:

>
...dress code is alive and well (and bitterly
> > complained about) in our high school!
>
>      It wouldn't be if the students weren't willing to put up with it.
> I remember being in schools that had dress codes, but if the dress
> code violated my standard of dress, I violated the dress code.  Quiet,
> wide-spread defiance is a very effective weapon.
>
> The Ronin

You have a point...sometimes I think they just like to have something to
complain about.  If administration told them they could wear anything
they wanted, it would take all the fun out of trying to get by with
subtle violations.
ndh
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From:         Karen Kay <LL23%NEMOMUS.BITNET%UGA.CC.UGA.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Goodnight Yawn
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> :Gee, that would be interesting ...Bernard and Muffy have never met...and
> :Muffy is a male.
>
> First you draw your dog like a cat, now you give it a
> female name!  Are you trying to give your animal an identity crisis or what?..
>
> G

This is something coming from YOU, Graham !!!!!!!!!!!

Karen
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Subject:      Re: CALLING ALL STUDENTS OF RUSSIAN

>Yes, I have.   You resort to the "Turning Machine" tactic. :-) (Read lots of
                                   ^^^^^^^

that should have read "Turing" but I think in a way it conveys the same
meaning.

>giggles in this!)

Chris
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              14 Apr 1992 23:03:10 -0500 from <harwood@TENET.EDU>

Having taught in parochial schools, I can attest to the fact that on days
when uniforms were not required, student behavior was markedly different,
i.e., worse.  However, since we tend to try to express something about
ourselves to the world through our clothing, I am sympathetic to students
who find uniforms or dress codes repressive... they are, and are intended
to be so!  As an adult, I love the idea, and wish we had them for work (I
am perhaps being facetious here)...when I was a nun and wore a habit every
day, I LOVED not having to think about what to wear!  ...probably an
expression of middle age, because when I worked at St. Louis Public Library
back in the '70's, a uniform jacket was proposed, and I was one of the most
vociferous opponents, too...life is change.
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CALLING ALL STUDENTS OF RUSSIAN

Sigheth       Adam M Hartfield <AHARTFIE@DREW.DREW.EDU>

> Chalk this one up to the queue.demons who take my mail packets
> hostage. Argh.

     It is obvious that you aren't performing the proper rituals for
containing the effects of Shub-internet.  Unfortunately it is not
possible to e-mail descriptions of these rituals, as he would
intercept them and thus learn how to counter them and render them
ineffective for the rest of you.

The Ronin

p.s. To avoid needless gleaning, Shub-Internet is the network demon
     living beneath the pentagon.  See the jargon file (ftp'able from
     ra.msstate.edu among other places) for more discussion.
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From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Enigma Machines

There's another book, _The Enigma War_, which should be in the
government and business section of the local library.

Evelyn
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:02:52 EDT
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From:         Mark Susskind <NY911179%PACEVM.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Deserving Flames

AIDS is not Divine Punishment.  It is a natural consequence of a particular set
of actions.  If you were to drink litres of water, soda, whatever, a natural
consequence of this action is that you would eventually need to urinate (I used
to drink a lot of soda when I was on the meal plan at my undergraduate school,
especially when the entrees were unappealing, so I should know ;-) .

Speaking of meal plans, today's special in my office building was the Desert
Storm (ending) Anniversary Special.  I lost my appetite. >-P  But, didn't it
end during the end of February or the beginning of March.  They are a little
late.

Ciao 4 Niao,
Mark R. Susskind <NY911179 @ PACEVM.BITNET>

"If I am not for myself, who will be for me?
 If I am only for myself, what am I?
 And if not now, when?" -- Hillel

"The impropriety is no illusion." -- Mark R. Susskind
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> 11) _Asterix_ series

It's a series of comic books (or comic novels if you will, since they only make
about one issue a year).  I'm actually not that familiar with it myself, but
basically, it's set in ancient Greece, where Asterix is this short little
gladiator who gets into lots of misadventures with his friends.  The series is
incredibly popular in France.  There books are translated into English, and are
somewhat popular with American yuppie parents who buy them for their children,
thinking it's more cultural than, say, Spider Man.  And it actually is, because
the _Asterix_ books are full of puns and wordplay and obscure references to
literature.  This is, unfortunately, largely lost to English readers, and the
stories usually have to be rewritten with completely different English puns. You
can probably find the books at any foreign language bookstore or upscale book-
sellers in a large city.

BTW, how does this "Gleanings" system work?  Are we only supposed to respond to
our own references, or can anybody join in?

--Aaron
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