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From: tony2@mcl.ucsb.edu (Tony Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:05:29 GMT

In <164@trident.datasys.swri.edu> mark@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Mark D. Collier) writes:

>I am forming a team comprised of many of the better players in our
>league. We are trying to come up with a clever name for our team (which
>is tough, because the players do not have that much in common). Any
>one who knows of a particularly clever, generic name please send me
>an email. I will summarize the results.

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Mark D. Collier                      Southwest Research Institute
>Senior Research Analyst              Automation and Data Systems Division
>Voice: (512) 522-3437                Data Systems Department
>FAX:   (512) 522-5499                Software Engineering Section
>

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Some names that we've come up with (and hence used here at UCSB)...

Wanted for Malicious Kills
Caution: Low Roof
Block Party
Diggin' and Swingin'
We've made better passes in a bar...
Whiff, Shank, and Throw, Inc.
We can't dig...
Over the top
Sizzle your pits
We've seen better digging in a graveyard...


Some of them are long but funny...
enjoy

Tony

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From: swfc@cs.columbia.edu (Shu-Wie F Chen)
Subject: Re: new FIVB rules...
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:00:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.175123.4348@mr.med.ge.com> dexter@news.mr.med.ge.com.UUCP (Donald Dexter 4-6489 ~BHOSVWZ#090) writes:
>From article <1992Oct7.145335.18972@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, by Eric.J.Baumgartner@dartmouth.edu (Eric J. Baumgartner):
>> In article <BvqHp4.E3J@cs.columbia.edu>
>> swfc@cs.columbia.edu (Shu-Wie F Chen) writes:
>> 
>>> 3. It is not a violation to touch the net if the ball is not being
                                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>> played along the net.
    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> 
>> 
>> Or is this rule pointless... if you're playing the ball along the net,
>> you can't touch the net. If you're not playing the ball along the net,
>> you can, but then you're not along the net, so it doesn't matter.
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

I don't see how you can touch the net if you aren't along the net.
Anyway, this is not what the rule states.

>
>i set you for a back row attack.  the ball isn't "along the net" anymore
>(it's closer to the 3m line).  i then reach over and yank the net down 
>allowing you to hit nearly straight down.  the rule was added to let
>short people become impressive hitters and to encourage setters to 
>look more like football players (to pull it down further.)
>
>ample sarcasim.

Yeah, yeah. Okay.  I get it, but there seems to be various (IMHO,
bizarre) interpretations of this rule from the people on the net (as
opposed to those in the net. ;-).  I suspect that the reason is
because, as some previous poster pointed out, the new net rule
introduces judgement into the refs' call.  Also, remember that I typed
in the rules based on a short blurb in Volleyball magazine.  I would
expect that the official FIVB version is better worded (well, at
least, I can hope it is ;-)

In any case, in your scenario, you would still be called for the
violation since you were holding the net as the ball crossed over,
that is, when it was along the net.  

I suspect that the new net rule only applies in cases where contacting
the net does not help in keeping the ball in play (e.g. it's a free
ball and while I am switching with my middle hitter, the sleeve of my
shirt inadvertently brushes against the net, etc).  I also don't think
the rule applies in cases where one uses the net to prevent from
committing a fault (e.g. grabbing the net so you don't fall over into
your opponents' court, etc).

Maybe a US national ref or a US national team member could enlighten
us.

*swfc





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From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 23:53:28 GMT

   Hey, someone took one of my team names... Hmmpf...	

   My old teams names were...

   Things That Go Bump
   Court Jesters
   Tinseltown Rebellion Band (from a Frank Zappa album)



                                         - Drummer -
From: serge@ll.mit.edu (Sergio Cafarelli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: new FIVB rules...
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:58:01 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Oct7.094447.14627@fys.ruu.nl> lochem@fys.ruu.nl (Gert-Jan van Lochem) writes:
>In <BvqHp4.E3J@cs.columbia.edu> swfc@cs.columbia.edu (Shu-Wie F Chen) writes:
>
>>Just got my latest issue of Volleyball.  They have a small blurb about
>>the changes adopted by FIVB and USVBA (college and high schools may
>>or may not adopt these changes).  Note that these changes favor the
>>defense:
>
>>1. No 17-point cap in the *fifth* game.  Rally point scoring still
>>applies.
>! Good idea, although nothing can beat the thrill of the ball of Olof van
>de Meulen against the Azzuri in Barcelona.!
>>2. A *digger* may touch the ball with any part of hir body from the knee
>>up.
>? What is a DIGGER?

A digger is any player who attempts to defend against a spike. People
call it *diggin the ball*. Therefore, he becomes a digger. I am sure it
also relates to the actions of digging (as in digging a whole), since you
must stay close to the ground and your arms simulate the digging motion.
(At least some times)


>? What good is the part between the knees and the hips for a defence
>player (just as well stick to the new rule !) ?

Well, sometimes a hitter blasts a ball into your thigh, without you having
time to react ---> therefore a good dig according to the new rules.

>>3. It is not a violation to touch the net if the ball is not being
>>played along the net.
>? I have to referee a lot of amateur-matches. If those guys  hear you
>can jump into the net as long as you are spiking, there is going to be a
>lot of blood and twisted ankles around !
>(stupid rule, the beauty of volleyball is that you can not touch your
>opponent. I'm not in for full-contact volleyball !)

C'est la vie :(

I have to look into this one, but i thought that a net call will not be awarded
if the ball is NOT being played in that AREA. For instance, a setter jumps sets
a ball to the left side and hits the net with the side of his body. Since the
play is on the left side of the court, the net call will not be made.
I agree that its a stupid change. If your passers can't give you a pass, and
yuo hang all over the net like a TUNA...HEY it's the passers fault!!
(Or maybe the setter is too slow) In any event this rules does bite the big one.
>
>>Cheers,
>
>Play it again, Sam.
>
>Gert-Jan, lochem@fys.ruu.nl
>
>-- 
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Serge
serge@ll.mit.edu
From: geoff@flash.bellcore.com (Geoffrey Clemm)
Subject: Re: New FIVB rules : official text
Organization: Bellcore
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:46:01

In article <1992Oct9.135932.885@unine.ch> Laurent.Wenker@dcal.unine.ch (Laurent Wenker) writes:
   8. Rule 16.4.1
   ==============
   Contact of the net is a fault only when the action of playing the ball is in
   the front zone.

Does *anyone* have *any* idea why this incredibly stupid rule was added by
supposedly non-brain-dead sapient adults ?  What possible improvement to the
game does it provide ?  What serious problem with the current rules did it
seek to address ?  I am truly disgusted.  I still cling to the straw of hope
that this idiocy will be rejected by the USVBA rule committee, leaving it
as an FIVB badge of stupidity.

Cheers,

Geoff

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From: ask@tuck.cs.nott.ac.uk (Andrew M Skinner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Creating league tables.
Keywords: League tables
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:00:39 GMT
Organization: Athletic Union At Nottingham University


 Does anyone out there have - or know of - a program that will allow the user to compile league sports tables. I was thinking of writting one but at present do not have the time (Final exam coming up). It should allow the user to enter the result of fixture and then the  program should compile the league tables. The program should also allow the leagues to be printed onto a laser printer.

  It would also be nice if the program could organise the fixtures - which would save a lot of typing in - but this is not essential.

   Any help in this matter would be greatfully excepted

              Thanks in advance
                Andrew S.
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From: geoff@flash.bellcore.com (Geoffrey Clemm)
Subject: posting VB times of major TV channels
Organization: Bellcore
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:18:39

To save us all the effort, could someone post a weekly schedule of when
VB will be shown on the major TV channels (i.e. ABC/NBC/CBS/ESPN/SportsChannel)

I'm assuming that the schedule is consistent across the nation for the
major channels.  If this turns out not to be the case, I retract the
proposal.

Cheers,

Geoff
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From: prangba@halcyon.com (Bruce Prang)
Subject: Re: volleyball rules book
Keywords: USVBA
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:39:19 GMT

rmp@crashnburn.Eng.Sun.COM (Richard Pottorff) writes:

>I used to have a 1992 USVBA rules book, but I lost it. Now, I need to get
>a new one to settle a substantial bet over a particular rule.  Anyway,
>I need the phone number for the USVBA headquartes, in Denver, Colo., I
>think.  Email is fine, or if you think more people would be interested,
>post to the net.


Yes please post. Thanks.

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From: umlehner@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Mike Lehnertz)
Subject: Re: Palm-down hand set
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 01:38:46 GMT

   Is that the set that you flip up with the sides of your thumbs? I
tell ya, you better have some STRONG thumbs to pull that set off clean.
I tried that once (just goofing around in warm-ups) and seriously jammed
by thumb. All you do is set it with your thumbs though.


                                         - Drummer -
From: tchriste@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Todd Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Palm-down hand set
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:36:54 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

In <1992Oct13.175849.16987@cbfsb.cb.att.com> millios@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (william.l.millios) writes:

>Could somebody please post a description of how to (legally) do
>this?  I've seen it done, but it was never done or demonstrated
>well enough to pass muster in a game situation.  What should the
>exact hand position be, and what "tips" do you have for this?

The question should be how do you do this, but WHY would you want to?  I 
know several players that can pull this off, but none of them would ever attempt
it in a reffed situation.  To do it screwing around is one thing, but can anyone
give a legitimate reason why this should be practiced and used in tournament
situations?  What's the point?
From: mpm@mips.com (Mike Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Adult Vball Camp - San Jose/Sacramento
Date: 9 Oct 1992 19:59:55 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Sunnyvale, California
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jireh.mti.sgi.com

In article <1b1nt1INNd02@agate.berkeley.edu> templin@grayling.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Fred Templin) writes:
>> but I thought I should let people know that there is a boycott
>> of ASF events going on by players in the Bay Area.  The man who
>> owns and operates ASF, Steve Suttich, has been under fire of late for
>> mistreating employees.
>
>Can anyone else share their experiences with ASF and
>Steve Suttich - good and bad? I was planning to sign up
>for the camp in Concord but would like to get some more
>input before doing so after seeing this...

I went to one of the ASF weekend camps four years ago, and found it
to be very beneficial.  Craig Buck, Gary Sato (the assistant coach
of the US men's VB team), and a Stanford women's player whose name 
I forget were there along with Steve Suttich; Craig and Gary were
there for the whole weekend.  I learned a lot from the training, so
I was glad that I went.  However, that was four years ago, and I haven't
had any dealings with them since, so things may have changed since then.
--mike
From: frahman@csws8.ic.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Japan Tour
Date: 12 Oct 92 03:13:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Originator: frahman@csws8.ic.sunysb.edu

Does anyone know the rosters for the USA - JAPAN tour, and who the 
starters for each team are likely to be.

Farshad
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From: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Defenses
Reply-To: wung@puttgen.ee.gatech.edu
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 02:55:06 GMT

I have been reading the AVCA coaches book and in it they talk about the
middle back defense, which I took to mean a perimeter defense, the strong
rotation defense and the reverse rotation defense.  I understood the 
formations well enough but had a hard time understanding when one
should deploy such defenses.  I think the rotation defenses should be
used if the opposing team dinks a lot, but why strong rotation
versus reverse rotation?  Can anybody out there help me?

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From: vail@tegra.com (Johnathan Vail)
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Organization: Tegra-Varityper, Inc. Billerica, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:04:40 GMT



Some team names I recall seeing:

Arm and Hammer
Blue Balls  (A wallyball team, kool shirts with gators, etc.)
Net Assets  (and several other Net.. teams)
Roofers
Sandblasters



jv
From: Eric.J.Baumgartner@dartmouth.edu (Eric J. Baumgartner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: new FIVB rules...
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:53:35 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <BvqHp4.E3J@cs.columbia.edu>
swfc@cs.columbia.edu (Shu-Wie F Chen) writes:

> 3. It is not a violation to touch the net if the ball is not being
> played along the net.

Anyone care to make an interpretation of this, or to suggest an example
of its use? The only thing I can think of is that now, when your setter
races to the net on a free ball, turns around to look at her team, and
fishes with her elbow, it's OK. (And boy, you see that a lot at the
international level, hunh?)

Specifically: when is the ball considered "being played along the net"?
Net play, attacking and blocking, obviously. But if you're blocking,
and you go up, land, turn to get off net, and then net, does it count?
(Since the ball has been dug and is no longer along the net.
Continuation rule?)

Can you use the net for support? Can a digger dive to save an errant
pass than would go under the net, and then reach up and catch himself
to prevent going under?

Or is this rule pointless... if you're playing the ball along the net,
you can't touch the net. If you're not playing the ball along the net,
you can, but then you're not along the net, so it doesn't matter.

So we're back where we started. What gives?

I think this rule lets refs follow the game better instead of
concentrating on watching the net so much. I hate to see something as
black and white as a net touch become a judgement call, though.

Eric Baumgartner                   *  ebaum@dartmouth.edu
Interactive Media Lab              *  - When in danger or in doubt,
Dartmouth Medical School           *      run in circles, scream and
shout.
From: mattb@ssc-vax (Matt Baney)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:04:29 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@ssc-vax.boeing.com (Matt Baney)
Distribution: na
Organization: Boeing Aerospace & Electronics


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From: jbab+@andrew.cmu.edu (John F. Borger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Balls and defense
Date: 11 Oct 92 17:08:39 GMT
Organization: Junior, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I have two question that I need answered:
    1.  My team is argueing about the defense we should be using this
season. We play a 5-1 and have a decent, but short, block.  Should we
have middle back and power alley diggers with a person fairly short on
the line (setter position) or should we have a line and power alley
diggers line up off the block with a short middle for dinks (no middle
back)?  Any suggestions would be helpful.
    2.  We would also like to order new balls (probably 5V5W). Who would
be the cheapest and most reliable to order through?

                                                Thanks,
                                                        John Borger
                                                        Canegie-Mellon Univ.
From: gee7759@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Glenn Elliott)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:39:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

Well, the names I sent in didn't make the summary, so here they are:

Net Results
Setting Ducks - Named for the "Net Fowl" t-shirt that is popular around here
Floor Essence - There were a couple of *really* loud outfits on the team
2XSF          - I think 2XSV would have been better, but the result is the same

Glenn
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From: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Great Western Team Cup
Date: 13 Oct 1992 13:59:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I just watched a Team Cup match on TV this past weekend and
I was amazed at the attendance.  There couldn't have been
more than 100 people at the LA Forum.  This is shameful.
I cannot believe that there would be so few people willing
to go see some of the best players play.

USA is playing Japan at Madison Square Garden this coming
weekend in New York City and I'm sure WE'LL have a capacity 
crowd.

Howard
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:13:22 GMT
	<wilder.718652121@mik.uky.edu> <1b4m5oINN4kt@fido.asd.sgi.com>
	<Bvx71E.J4n@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: American Math. Society

Two of the teams on which I currently play:

KAOS
Goosebumps
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From: swoodard@jscprofs.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Which shoes to buy...please reply
Organization: nasa/jsc
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:44:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.092007.2998@wkuvx1.bitnet> hurtje@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>Hi, my name is Eric.  This is my very first posting so I hope I get it
>right. 
>
> 	I am getting ready to buy my first pair of volleyball shoes
>and would like to hear from different people about which shoes they
>would get.  I plan to either get the ASICS GEL CRUSHER or MIZUNO COURT
>SUPREME.  Which shoe is better.
>
>
I've got both pairs.  I mail ordered the Asics which ended up being	to
big for me.   I then ordered the mizuno's and THE'RE GREAT.  Minus is	
they only had one color White.  If you buy the Asics, buy a 1/2 size	
down on mail orders to Teamworks or Spike Nashbar.

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From: A1.KAK@isumvs.iastate.edu (Kevin Kettner)
Subject: USA in Minneapolis
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:33:43 GMT

   I saw a post sometime back, that talked about the schedule for
the USA-Japan matches.  Could any one tell me, are they going to or
have they already played in Minneapolis.  If they have not played
yet when is the match in Minneapolis scheduled for.  Thank in
advance.
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From: jcp29389@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (KING OF THE BEACH)
Subject: Re: Clever team names
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:21:51 GMT

You're Easy!!

Ballzitch

Immature Dicks

Passholes

Road Kill

Prophylactic Thunder

Deadly Pricks

...

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From: dexter@news.mr.med.ge.com.UUCP (Donald Dexter 4-6489 ~BHOSVWZ#090)
Subject: Re: new FIVB rules...
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 17:51:23 GMT

From article <1992Oct7.145335.18972@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, by Eric.J.Baumgartner@dartmouth.edu (Eric J. Baumgartner):
> In article <BvqHp4.E3J@cs.columbia.edu>
> swfc@cs.columbia.edu (Shu-Wie F Chen) writes:
> 
>> 3. It is not a violation to touch the net if the ball is not being
>> played along the net.
> 
> 
> Or is this rule pointless... if you're playing the ball along the net,
> you can't touch the net. If you're not playing the ball along the net,
> you can, but then you're not along the net, so it doesn't matter.
>

i set you for a back row attack.  the ball isn't "along the net" anymore
(it's closer to the 3m line).  i then reach over and yank the net down 
allowing you to hit nearly straight down.  the rule was added to let
short people become impressive hitters and to encourage setters to 
look more like football players (to pull it down further.)

ample sarcasim.

-don.
From: raghu666@pi.rice.edu (Raghavendra K. Madyastha)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Mail order catalog for shoes
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:37:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Originator: raghu666@pi.rice.edu


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