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From: ericlaw@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: A thought on Mainlanders' AttitudeDIR
Date: 11 Jan 93 09:18:13 -0500
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <F2f=jp-@engin.umich.edu>, changhp@engin.umich.edu (Hsiou-Ping Chang) writes:

> After reading so many posting by mainlanders, I have a question for the
> netters.   Do you think it is the fact that

	** First, I am not a mainlander.

> 
> (a) Taiwan is (already) an independent and democratic country 
> or 
> (b) Taiwan wants to declare independence
> 
> causes more the unease of CCP?
> 

	** Second, you don't have to do analysis like (a), (b) or (c).
	   Let me tell you a simple truth:

	   CCP WANT Taiwan. Regardless of reasons.

	   I don't know your age. But it seems the younger generation
	   in Taiwan already forgot what CCP is (or they never know).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: joy@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Chien-Chung Chen)
Subject: Re: Is TI so rossy?
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:49:07 GMT

In article <C0Ew9L.J0L@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>You see, again. People are used to use inference to reason: apply "golden" rules
>to instance. Never quetioned those rules. Before British found reason by
>induction, those were prevailing way of reason. It is still only or major way
>to reason for people who are religious, superstitious. 

Here you go again. Before you question about other people's reasoning,
would you take a look at your own article? From the way you cite others'
articles, it seems you don't really care much about the bandwidth. Then
why do you conserve so much about your words in your articles? Don't
you think if you had explained more clearly in your original posting,
others wouldn't have to use "inference to reason"?

In addition to your sloppy writing style, you also make your argument
very unclear to me. You say "mainland is now possesing the capacity the
do or not do somethind in the world which will have major impact on
potential interventionists." and "If China have military build up,
..., we will not limit the conflict to Taiwan, that for sure."
Now please tell us what form of conflict that China is going to have?
Say, if US supports Taiwan's independence (just an assumption), what
kind of measure will China take against US? Please clarify your point.

-- Chien-Chung Chen
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: kambiz@thecube.tcs.com (Kambiz Homayounfar)
Subject: DSP/Speech Jobs Offered
Keywords: Speech Coding, DSP
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:37:58 GMT

Positions Available 

Teknekron Communications Systems Inc. (Berkeley, CA) is a technology  
development and licensing company with a staff of 180 most of whom are  
engineers and scientists.  We work on a variety of  R&D projects in areas  
of wireless communications (cellular, cordles, PCS) and telecommunications  
software (network management systems, operational contol).  
 
Senior Scientist, Speech Coding
Requires MS or Ph.D in electrical engineering with minimum of 10 years  
experience in design and implementation of speech compression algorithms  
for telecommunications and consumer electronics products. 
Responsibilities include:
* Formulation of novel speech compression algorithms at bit rates below 16  
kbps
* High-Level (using C-language) and CAD-based (COSSAP, WAVES) simulation  
of speech coding algorithms
* Objective and subjective evaluation of low bit-rate speech coders
* Real-time implementation of speech coding algorithms on general-purpose  
DSP chips (TI TMS family, AT&T DSP1600) 
* Design of processor architectures for custom implementation of speech  
compression algorithms
* Analysis of standard (CCITT, TIA, ETSI) speech coding algorithms for  
low-power implementation on custom DSP architectures

DSP Application Engineer
Requires BS/MS in Electrical Engineering with minimum of 5 years of  
product development experience in wireless or consumer electronics  
industries. Sales engineering experience and knowledge of Japanese  
language highly desirable. 

Responsibilities include:
* Assembly-level DSP software development
* Design and construction of DSP-based hardware prototypes
* Consult with customers' engineers to assure compliance with customers's  
needs and specifications

Contact: 
Kambiz Homayounfar
Senior Manager, Wireless Communications
Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
2121 Allston Way
Berkeley, CA 94704
Fax # (510) 848 8851
Internet: kambiz@tcsi.com


Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: changhp@engin.umich.edu (Hsiou-Ping Chang)
Subject: Re: weapon sales to Taiwan
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 15:36:31 EST
Organization: The University of Michigan
Keywords: weapons, Taiwan
Originator: changhp@fijan.engin.umich.edu


In article <mvdvalk.726314577@mekong>, mvdvalk@cs.utwente.nl (Martijn van der Valk) writes:
> Dear netters,
> 
> Many Taiwanese Chinese seem to be in favour of a strong Taiwan that can defend
> itself against military intervention and they seem to agree on their government
> buying Western weapon systems.
> 
> I was wondering about the following. The currently most likely candidate to
> attack Taiwan is mainland China. Do the people of Taiwan realise that in that
> case, Western weapons would (again) be killing Chinese?
> 
> According to the Dutch/French sinologist Kristoffer Schipper, the economic
> success of mainland China will lead to a decline of the economic power of
> Japan. He foresees another Sino-Japanese war in the coming 50 years.
> 
> Imagine the following scenario: the mainland starts a (small) military
> intervention against Taiwan because the TI movement has become too powerful
> or whatever reason they come up with: civil war in the Pacific, Chinese
> butchering Chinese for the better of the Chinese people, no doubt.
[lines deleted...]
	Since your subject is "weapon sales to Taiwan", I will assume that
you are concerned about whether weapon sales to Taiwan will lead to the
upheaval of the east Asia.  The answer is no.
	Taiwan will use the weapons for peaceful purposes.  Since China never
wants to give up using force against Taiwan, the best way to prevent a war 
is to build a good defense system and let the invader pay the costly price.
	As long as mainland China remains a Communist country, all the countries
in the east Asia will be threatened.  Japan will be one of the targets, because
during the WWII, too many Chinese were massacred by Japanese.  China want to
take revenge on Japan.  This issue has nothing to do with weapon sales to
Taiwan.
	The best way stablilize this region is to help China become a democratic
country.   Currently, most mainlanders enjoy the economic growth and favor
a slow political reform. You won't see any visible political reform very soon. 


Hsiou-Ping
From: s891993@otto (Fung CHAY)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: HELP !
Date: 9 Jan 93 10:00:50 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: otto.bf.rmit.oz.au
Summary: CHING FONG INVESTMENT GROUP
Keywords: Company in Taiwan

Hello Netters ,

I wish to look up a Ching Fong Company which has been known to manufacture
motocycle and computer in Taiwan , for informations on computing-related
job offers .  If anyone out there have known of this company , please let
me know , my email adress is : s891993@otto.bf.rmit.oz.au  , any help is  
greatly appreciated ! Thanks...

S.
From: idpt167@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_USR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: discrimination in school
Date: 10 Jan 1993 19:25:18 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <C0JzyA.4x1@rex.uokhsc.edu> u235@rex.uokhsc.edu (Yung-Jin Lee) writes:
>I have a problem here.  I don't want to say this word but I can't
>help.  That is 'discrimination' from one of professors in our graduate
>school.   I don't know how I should deal with it.  Any opinion will be
>appreciated.

        I can relate to your situation.  I studied at Oklahoma State University,
Stillwater.  A famous story among the Chinese student society is a faculty
member in the Department of Chemical Engineering never ever give an `A' to
any foreign student.  Since she teaches core courses in the graduate school,
the advice of the "old birds" to the new students from Taiwan and/or China
is to "take a `B' for an `A'."

Cheers.

--
Hsu-Ku "Bruce" Ying                E-Mail: idpt167@tpts1.seed.net.tw
Software Engineer                  TEL: 886-2-2452227, ext. 352
ARMAS Computer Corp.               FAX: 886-2-2452218
2F #9 Lane 327 Sec. 2 Chung-Shan Road, Chung-Ho City, Taipei, Taiwan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: hch@CCCA.NCTU.edu.tw (Huang Chih-Hsien)
Subject: Re: email in Taiwan?
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:22:09 GMT

Eugene Liu (Eugene.Liu@launchpad.unc.edu) wrote:
: In article <1igqupINN2ph@shelley.u.washington.edu> seb@stein.u.washington.edu (-s e b a s t i a n-) writes:
: >>>I would like to know about the situation that people use e-mail in Taiwan.
: >>>I would be appreciated your answer
: >>
: >>Almost all universities in Taiwan are linked to Internet now, so I'd say many
: >>people, especially college students, are enjoying e-mail at the moment. :)
: >>
: >>:E.Liu
: >
: >	even though this is the case (that almost all univ are linked),
: >	my understanding is that only Graduate School Students have access 
: Hmmm, I think the school would give them an account if they applied. Maybe
: the graduates are given an account by "default" but the undergrads need
: to ask for one. I don't know... Policies vary from school to school. :)

As I know, only computer center in NCTU, Hsinchu, give both graduate
and undergraduate accounts by default.  And most T1 linked schools, 
such as NCU, NTHU, NCKU, undergaduate or graduate will get an account 
if apply.  However, schools connected via a 64K lease line or 9.6K lease
line, getting an account for undergraduate may be a little harder.

--
Huang, Chih-Hsien
Campus Computer Communication Association Vice President
TWNEWS Moderator, NCTUCCCA.edu.tw Anonymous FTP Archives Maintainer
National Chiao Tung University, Hsinchu, Taiwan
hch@NCTUCCCA.edu.tw
From: ericlaw@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: A thought on Mainlanders' AttitudeIn article 
Date: 12 Jan 93 08:11:23 -0500
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <#Kg=HK-@engin.umich.edu>, changhp@engin.umich.edu (Hsiou-Ping Chang) writes:
> 
> I think they understand better than you in terms of the true meaning of
> democracy, and of self-confidence.   The enormous effort to pursuit a
> more democratic society by the Taiwan people is to be respected not to be
> laugh at.

	** When people read history, they laugh.

	   Tell me why.
From: li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tom Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Li-Hau Institution
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:59:48 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <9301120250.AA05199@tpts1.seed.net.tw>, idpt167@tpts1.seed.net.tw (PC_USR) writes...
> 
>Besides, the New-KMT
>Coalition legislators, led by Chao Shao-K'ang (the local English
>media spells his surname as Jaw), clearly said the other day that
>they prefer Mr. Hau to stay on the job, otherwise they hope the
>president will nominate a person of native Taiwan provinciality.
                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I heard this too. After the December election, one of New-KMT Coaliation 
Legislators has suggested President Lee nominate a BSR as next Premier so 
that WSR will not be the target of attack or accuse (as Wang and Hau) 
anymore but also show the unity of BSR/WSR. I totally agree.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee)
Subject: Re: China(was More than 50% support TI)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:36:26 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

In article <C0D6uJ.8L1@news.iastate.edu> wwang@iastate.edu (Wen-Ping Wang) writes:
>
>Switch to which group? Soc.culture.you_don't_like_to_read ? :-)
>

Switch that to, for instance, "soc.history" or "soc.culture.china".

I think this is a common problem occurred to the newsgroups that are not
moderated.

>   W.P. Wang
>


-- 
/* The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of IBM's.         *\
 * Take care and have a nice day.                                            *
\* Ty Lee                                                                    */
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: Meng-Chyi Lin <m8001514@china9.chpi.edu.tw>
Subject: Faculty Position
X-Xxdate: Wed, 6 Jan 93 14:03:49 GMT
Organization: CHPI
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:56:42 GMT


Chung-Hua Polytechnic Institute in Shin-Chu, Taiwan ROC 
The Department of Electrical Engineering at Chung-Hua Polytechnic
Institutes has one opening available from Feburary 1993.  The applicant
should have a Ph. D degree and a deep commitment to teaching and a strong
record of research in the areas of telecommunications, electro-optics
engineering, DSP, or computer architecture. If interested, please send a
brief resume by email to ihchung@china9.chpi.edu.tw.

chairman 
In-Hang Chung.
From: ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Chinese New Year in Las Vegas
Date: 13 Jan 93 02:06:36 GMT
Reply-To: ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

For Chinese New Year's, Tsai(4) Chin(2) will be performing in Las
Vegas.  For those of you who don't know her, she is a
multi-generational singer, where both my mother and I like her
singing.

	-- Anita --

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From: yhchen@eng.umd.edu (Yin-Hsin Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Casio PR-100
Date: 5 Jan 93 21:00:53 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park

According to srivasta@physics.ucla.edu in rec.radio.shortwave, he
bought the radio ($39.95 + $4.95 shipping) from J&R 1-800-221-8180.
This is cheaper than Heartland America ($49 + $5.50 S&H) as posted by
joy@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Chien-Chung Chen).

Disclaim: I'm not affiliate with any store. I just found some cheaper one.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee)
Subject: Re: China(was More than 50% support TI)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:19:00 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

In article <1993Jan4.191415.18969@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
> .....
>that the Northern China Plains are more fertile than the Great Plains or the
>Ukrainian Plains.
> 

Do you still want to waste the bandwidth by discussing the irrelevant issues
about China and your history knowledge on the net. Please do not digress
too far.

Yes, I know you major in history. So, change it to other news group.

Bosnia, Croatia, ..... can't you give up the habit of citing them?
-- 
/* The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of IBM's.         *\
 * Take care and have a nice day.                                            *
\* Ty Lee                                                                    */
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Fight in Taiwan's legislature reported on
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:19:09 GMT

In article 1781@cbfsb.cb.att.com, wa2ise@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.f.casey) writes:
>|In article <1993Jan9.125757.4237@vax.cns.muskingum.edu> ericlaw@vax.cns.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department) writes:
>|>	** After seeing the spectacular fight among Guo2 Dai4
>|<	   on Jan 8, [....   ]                      ^^^ Taiwan's congress?
>|
>|Last night (Jan 8, Friday), on New York City TV channel 11 (WPIX), on their
>|news show, they showed video footage of a fight that broke out in their
>|legislative body (equivalent to the USA Congress) during a dabate.  Showed
>|members yelling and throwing fists and wrestling on the floor.  No mention
>|on this newscast as to what issue was being debated that started this
>|brawl.  Mentioned that members of the "opposition party" and the "ruling
>|party" were involved.  I had the feeling that the news reporters of 
>|this TV channel were "milking" this story for laughs, and saying that
>|debates in USA's Congress, while heated at times, rarely get like this.
>|I seem to remember hearing about another brawl in Taiwan's legislature
>|about 6 to 12 months ago?  Hope I'm wrong, but how common is this anyway?


Unfortunately, these damned things happen much more often than you 
would believe.

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*School of Electrical Engineering	    Atlanta, GA 30332      *
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: joy@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Chien-Chung Chen)
Subject: Re: China(was More than 50% support TI)
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 07:05:48 GMT

In article <C0Ewwy.J9p@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:

>> [Chunde Shi's lengthy citation deleted]

>Yellow plateau started defrosetation after Dang Dunasty.
>Europe did not have as warm climate during summer time. approprate temeratture
>is major factor in food production.
>Yellow river has  been much better managed after 1949.

>> [citation deleted]

>It has been mentained by organic fetilizer.

>> [citation deleted]

Geez! You cited 119 lines and only gave 5 lines in response. Please be
considerate to the bandwidth. Trim down the citation, will you?

-- Chine-Chung Chen
From: sjtu@bohr.physics.purdue.edu (Shu-Ju Tu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: Chong1 Guang3 broadcast (Was Re: Excellence, Made in Taiwan)
Date: 5 Jan 93 02:12:09 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

In article <1993Jan4.233016.12410@zip.eecs.umich.edu> joy@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Chien-Chung Chen) writes:
>I got myself an analog tuning SW/AM/FM radio for only $17 pretax.
>It works OK. On a mail order catelog, a CASIO digital tuning SW/AM/FM
>sells for $49+$5.5(S&H). If you want more information, I can help.
>But I don't guarantee they'll work for you. :)
>
>-- Chien-Chung Chen

Would you please tell us how to get the radio from the mail order

you mentioned in your article.


Thanks!!


Tu, Shu-Ju 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: bbs.lar@tsoft.net (Larry Greenfield)
Subject: USENET BBSs
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:49:18 GMT

   Hi all. I know this is off the subject, but please, I
NEED YOUR HELP if you can help!
   I don't think I can afford to call long distance from the
LA area up to San Fransisco every day to get usenet/internet
anymore.  Does anyone have a list of public access
internet/usenet BBSs in the Orange County/Seal Beach area of
Southern California? --- in the (714) or (310) area codes?
   Please help if you can!  I've been on usenet for quite a
while now, and I find myself suddenly facing the prospect of
being without it.  Please email me if you can help in any
way!  I know there is some board in Stanton, but I don't
know the guest log-on or where to contact the sysop. 
Please, any information you might have would GREATLY be
appriciated!  Thanks very very much!   Please email me
(auto-respond, or mail to    bbs.lar@tsoft.net)  
   Thanks again!!!



--
Larry Greenfield (bbs.lar@tsoft.net)
From: li@sicvax.enet.dec.com (Tom Li)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
Subject: Re: China(was More than 50% support TI)
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:57:52 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1993Jan8.170500.23934@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, cyc@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Yi-Chieh Chang) writes...
>> (Tom Li) writes...
>>
>>Certainly China has done very well in economy in the past 10 years. The 
>>economic growth of 1992 is about 10% (certainly it is #1 in the world) which 
>>is very encouraging. Sometimes I think giving Chinese opportunity they really
>>can create prosperity. Taiwan, HK, Singapore, now China. Isnt it a positive
>>factor for unification? :-)
> 
>If so, Canada should have united with U.S. long time ago, since both
>countries speak the same language and share similar culture, but why Canada
>want to be Canada, not U.S. ? Wouldn't that be better for Canadian to be
>American, since U.S. is so strong in the world ? Think about it man.

Did my article imply Taiwan HAS TO unify with China? 

Have US and Canada ever been under one nation? I thought Taiwan/China is
more like Germany and Korea. But that does not mean Taiwan is obliged for 
unification. IMO, whether independence or unification that all depend.

>No matter how prosperous China might be in the future, Taiwan may still
>want to be independent from China, simply because Taiwanese want to be
>their own boss, not to be ruled by other people. 

Certainly you are one of those "independence no matter what". From you 
past writings, your hostility towards Chinese, China, KMT, or CCP will 
not do any good. 

>The trend in the future is that small business will prevail and big 
>enterprise may break into many small sectors to compete with those small 
>companies. Same thing will happen to the countries. Small, diversity,
>dynamic, flexibility, adjustability, efficiency, etc. will spell the future
>world. None of the big ones can achieve any of that. 

Hmmmm... Yeah, right. Taiwan may consider break into 30 pieces, China may 
consider break into 200 pieces then US may consider break into ... how 
many pieces? Mr. Chang.

Sometimes I just dont undertand your reasoning. 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.taiwan
From: wwang@iastate.edu (Wen-Ping Wang)
Subject: Re: China(was More than 50% support TI)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:51:55 GMT

In article <C0Conp.xHM@austin.ibm.com> tylee@leety.austin.ibm.com (Ty Lee) writes:
>In article <1993Jan4.191415.18969@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu) writes:
>> .....
>>that the Northern China Plains are more fertile than the Great Plains or the
>>Ukrainian Plains.
>> 
>
>Do you still want to waste the bandwidth by discussing the irrelevant issues
>about China and your history knowledge on the net. Please do not digress
>too far.
>
>Yes, I know you major in history. So, change it to other news group.
>

Switch to which group? Soc.culture.you_don't_like_to_read ? :-)

Be a little bit patient. Besides, SCT has lots of other discussions
that are worse than this one. :-)  IMO, this crop production stuff is
kind of interesting to learn also( if we forget the previous topic
that it envolves from ).

As for Nelson himself, I think he is a knowldgeable person, and is
humble enough. :-)

Cheers,

   W.P. Wang