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From: mcramm@dct.ac.uk (McRamm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: autodialing with a palmtop or organizer?
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:51:53 +0100
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <212@lord.UUCP>, dei@lord.UUCP (Douglas E. Ivers) writes:
> My number one desire for a palmtop/organizer is autodialing*.  The closest
> thing I've seen is the desktop (electronic) Rolodex unit at Radio Shack, but
> it must be plugged into the phone cable and is not meant to be portable.
> 

This feature is built-in to the Psion Series 3, which allows dialling of
numbers stored in the phonebook app. There's a choice of dialling with
or without area codes and with or without a 9 prefix (for an outside line from
your office phone).

It is also possible to dial a number that isn't stored, though I can't quite
figure out the use for this one. 8-)

> 
> * autodialing in this case refers to using the palmtop's speaker, held up to
> the phone's microphone, to create the dial tones which initiate the call.
> 
> Douglas Ivers
> -- 
> D. Ivers  the divers(e) one,                      dei@atvax.lord.com 
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From: phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin)
Subject: Re: CallForDiscussion: A*BETTER* HP95LX?
Followup-To: comp.sys.palmtops
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
	<1992Oct12.173803.172816@zeus.calpoly.edu> <1bcls0INNd22@uwm.edu>
	<Cohena-121092152852@l30346.mdc.com>
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:30:02

1. I read in a trade rag a few weeks ago that HP was working on a 95
follow-on with---get this---a 386-oid processor.

2. My own feeling is that I'd buy a 95 if it were $100 or less, but
the keyboard and screen are too small for it to be more than a toy.
(Those of you who find it useful, more power to you.  I print my
phone numbers on a piece of paper that I carry in my wallet...

3. I feel the best easy thing they could do to improve the 95 is 
get rid of the numeric keypad and just have typewriter-style number
keys.  Then the normal keyboard could be enlarged a lot.  Obviously
spreadsheet buffs will disagree.

4. Conclusion: the 95 cannot be all things to all people.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: cable@crs.cl.msu.edu (Dan Cable)
Subject: Re: Portfolio RAM card question
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 03:33:42 GMT

ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:

>Do the Portfolio RAM cards run off the main (AA) batteries when they are
>in the Portfolio?  When it's turned off?

Good question. I do know that the ram card is supposed to be in the Portfolio
and the Portfolio should be turned on when you are changing the battery in the
ramcard. So I guess the answer is yes and no.

--
Dan Cable                            e-mail cable@crs.cl.msu.edu
Canton MI USA planet Earth           Compuserve 75266.353
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From: edp@math.zk3.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Subject: Re: A few questions
Reply-To: edp@math.zk3.dec.com (Eric Postpischil)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:47:35 GMT

In article <19352@acorn.co.uk>, asmith@acorn.co.uk (Andy Smith) writes:

>I have a new 95lx, but the screen assembly seems to wobble in reference to
>to keyboard assembly. By this I mean the joint on the left hand side of the
>screen keyboard clamshell seems to be loose. The right hand side is OK.
>
>Is this a normal problem? Do I return it?

Only the right side has a clutch.

>Secondly, is there anyway of doing a one key save from the applications?

I have defined Char-F7 to be {MENU}qy{ENTER}y which works as a two-key
save from the Memo, Phone, and Appointment applications.  Note that the
Char key is sticky, so you can press and release it and then press F7.

>Third, can you turn off the carriage return character in memo?

Not that I know of.

>Finally is Derive 2.5 system manager compliant. I.e. can it be lauched from
>on of the blue keys, while other apps are running?

No, damn it.  However, there is a program available call MC.COM that
lets you run both the System Manager and an MS-DOS session.  You switch
back and forth with control-1 and control-2.  I tried this with Derive,
and it works, but it leaves you short on memory.


                                -- edp (Eric Postpischil)
                                "Always mount a scratch monkey."
                                edp@alien.enet.dec.com
From: richw@hplsla.hp.com (Rich Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: HP-110 floppy sought
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:42:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: hplsla.45990004
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA

Try Classic Computers, 515-472-0383, Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday
between 10am and 4pm, CST (CDT?).  They support the 110, portable plus, and
the 150.  Their catalog shows HP9114A at $175, and HP9114B at $199.
Add $39 for AC power (recommended unless you need the portability).
This is (probably) used equipment.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: herman@cs.kuleuven.ac.be (Herman Moons)
Subject: free-form database for HP95LX ??
Organization: Dept. Computerwetenschappen K.U.Leuven
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:50:39 GMT


Does anyone know whether there exists a free-form database for the HP95LX
palmtop. I wonder if there are packages around that are functionally
similar to Tornado or Info Select. It would be really nice to have this
kind of program on my palmtop !!!

herman
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From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: CallForDiscussion: A*BETTER* HP95LX?
Date: 9 Oct 1992 17:37:54 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Oct07.231854.104284@zeus.calpoly.edu> claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius (Chris Knight)) writes:
>Can someone with Compu$erve access be a kindly soul and actually transfer some
>of these programs to the internet?  If I remember right, you can freely
>redistribute them, which is what you'd be doing by placing things on eddie.

I asked the author of the 80x25 FNTSHL, Dave Goodman
(72330.130@CompuServe.COM) if any of his software from CI$ could be
redistributed from eddie.  He said no.  It's possible that if you ask
him directly he might be able to tell you where you could get a copy
without CI$ access.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: bblohm@boi.hp.com (Bill Blohm)
Subject: Re: hp95lx:Adventure games?
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:33:37 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

I have a version of Adventure (Colossal Cave) on my 95 which uses 94,592
bytes.  Coupled with winsi.sys, it works pretty good.  I also have miniadv
which I am trying out right now and which takes 11,447 bytes.  Both are
text games, of course.
Wonder if the NortQuest game for my 48 would run on the 95?  Probably not,
but it is an interesting thought.  Neat graphical adventure game.

Bill Blohm     

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: Cohena@mdc.com (Andy Cohen)
Subject: Re: A few questions
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 23:11:17 GMT
Organization: MDGAC
Followup-To: comp.sys.palmtops

In article <19352@acorn.co.uk>, asmith@acorn.co.uk (Andy Smith) wrote:
> 
> Can someone help.
> 
> I have a new 95lx, but the screen assembly seems to wobble in reference to
> to keyboard assembly. By this I mean the joint on the left hand side of the
> screen keyboard clamshell seems to be loose. The right hand side is OK.
> 
> Is this a normal problem? Do I return it?
> 
> 
Every few months I repost this......GET THE HINT....FAQ????

The reason it's loose is because HP only puts a plastic clutch on the right
side of the hinge...  There is nothing ...wrong with your 95...BUT here is
how to make it firm....

Pull off the left side hinge cap with your fingers...no tools or you'll
scratch it (no I did not scratch mine...).... Get a rubber band and a
razor.... stretch the rubberband and route the two strands through the slit
in the hinge going out the top and front of the hinge diagnolly.  Trim the
strands close from the top of the hinge so the cap can get back on. but
when you trim the strands going out the front of the hinge leave just a tad
so that the edge of the cap rubs the rubberband and the other side of the
hinge creating friction...replace the cap.... The rubberband expands the
hinge and makes it firm... The end sticking through the edge of the cap
keeps the screen where you want it...

Works real good!

Andy 
From: diamant@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (John Diamant)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:16:31 GMT
Subject: Re: HP95:putting a pcx file behind the password entry line
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

In comp.sys.palmtops, greff@eecs.umich.edu (vincent greff) writes:

>  -> I don't know the answer to your question, but I wouldn't suggest counting
>  -> on the topcard (with or without password) to get your 95 back if you leave
>  -> it somewhere).  There are two many reasons that the topcard screen might
>  -> not be seen (the person who finds it, doesn't dare turn it on, 

> Well he's going to turn it on sooner or later. If not, why did he took it?

Yes, but he might reset the machine before figuring out how to use it fully.

>  ->the main battery is dead, 

> you were using it,remember, so the battery wasn't dead

The battery can still die if it was lost for a while or was marginal at the
point you lost it.

>  -> the machine was left with an application running and
>  -> thus the topcard isn't visible

> good point, but when the password is active and you turn your HP95
> on it doesn't matter if and application was running or not : it asks
> you for your pwd and the screen behind could have useful info.

If you do this, don't forget to set it so that the auto-shutoff turns on the
password; otherwise, if it timed out, the password screen wouldn't be up
anyway.

>  -> and the finder doesn't know how to get
>  -> the topcard to display).

> have the topcard picture in background of the "pwd:" question

True (if above caution is heeded or you're extremely careful to always turn
it off explicitly).
  
>  -> I put my full name and phone number (including
>  -> area code, but not international dialing code -- though if I had thought
>  -> of it, I probably would have put that too) on the engraving plate on the
>  -> back.  I think it's a lot safer then counting on the topcard).

> Well, I'm moving in a year so what should I engrave in the plate?
> I think a plate is nice but once it's engraved it can't be changed
> so a software solution like the one I suggested would problably work better.

If you plan to move very frequently, you're right about engraving not
being a great solution, but a business card taped on the back is still
safer than software.  Also, the engraving plate can be replaced.  It's
only glued in.  I haven't tried removing it, but I'm sure it's possible.
I've been told it's a standard size -- easily obtained at any shop that
does engraving.

Of course, it can't hurt to do both (or all 3).


John Diamant
Software Engineering Systems Division
Hewlett Packard Co.		ARPA Internet: diamant@fc.sde.hp.com
Fort Collins, CO		UUCP:  {hpfcla,hplabs}!hpfclp!diamant

This response does not represent the official position of, or statement
by, the Hewlett-Packard Company.  The above data is provided for informational
purposes only.  It is supplied without warranty of any kind.
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: CallForDiscussion: A*BETTER* HP95LX?
Date: 16 Oct 1992 00:44:40 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <7571@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.045635.7636@linus.mitre.org> sokay@cyclone.mitre.org (Stephen J. Okay) writes:
>>Yeah, 1-2-3 is one of the biggest eye-turners when I get out my little
>I've only used it seriously about twice...but one of those times was to keep a

I've used 123 several times.  I've found it very useful for some
statistics in both psychology and anthropology.  I also keep my
checkbook in a worksheet.  I don't care for Lotus that much, but
I would definitely want a spreadsheet available for whatever
machine I carry around with me.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius (Chris Knight))
Subject: Re: CallForDiscussion: A*BETTER* HP95LX?
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 23:22:58 GMT

I, in my infinite wisdom, sez:
>anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber) says:
>>Condensed modes are available right now.  There are some programs on
>>Compuserve that do this.  I don't know what limitations they have if
>>any, they may only for certain MS-DOS applications.  Unfortunatly the
>>author of this software doesn't want it distributed anywhere but
>>Compuserve, the Palmtop Paper, and ACE Technology as he will eventually
>>be selling it as a commercial product.
>
>Can someone with Compu$erve access be a kindly soul and actually transfer some
>of these programs to the internet?  If I remember right, you can freely
>redistribute them, which is what you'd be doing by placing things on eddie.

Of course, don't distribute THIS program [which Anthony mentioned] but others
which are freely distributable.
-- 
---King Claudius---                                   claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: CallForDiscussion: A*BETTER* HP95LX?
Date: 12 Oct 1992 20:06:24 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <1992Oct12.173803.172816@zeus.calpoly.edu> claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius (Chris Knight)) writes:
>
>Another idea I came up with over the weekend...put the function keys on the
>same half of the clamshell as the display...have them membrane switches instead

Hmm, this sounds almost exactly like a Psion Series 3 :-).  It's nifty,
but the chicket keys on the HP are much better than typical membrane
keys.  Membrane keys do have the advantage that they can have adhesive
on the back so they can be stuck anywhere that's convenient.

How about a little trackball that would snap onto the serial port,
sort of like the Motorola Mobile Data Link?
--
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: Atari Portfolio: Adventure Games?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:25:25 GMT

After noticing the message about 95lx adventure games, I thought I'd post
this question:

	Where can I get some text adventures that will run on an unexpanded
Portfolio?

I have only found one so far, called "Marooned Again"

All others I've tried won't work for one or more of the following reasons:

1) Too big to fit on 128k RAM card (and, as such, probably wouldn't have run
anyway.)
2) Too big to run; gets either "Exec error", "[Memory full]" or a mysterious
"Program too large" error which isn't listed in the manual.
3) Searches for GW-BASIC or try to use built-in rom-based basic
4) Uses CGA graphics as part of interface.  These lock up the
Pofo forcing a reset-button reset.

Thanks for any input!  E-Mail or Post, I read this area regularly.

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From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: New Flash EPROM and ROM Demo for HP-95LX from EduCALC
Date: 13 Oct 1992 02:23:31 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

I just called up EduCALC today to ask about the SunDisk Flash EPROM
cards mentioned in the London Handheld Conference posting.

EduCALC will have November 1, these special HP-95LX Flash EPROM cards
from SunDisk.  These cards are different as they have an EPROM
programmer built right in.  This means the cards are fully writable
inside an HP, although at the cost of higher power consuption.
Normally a special PCMCIA Flash EPROM programmer is needed to write to
Flash EPROM cards, and they are read-only when inside an HP.  The cards
come in 1MB, 2.5MB, and 10MB capacities.  EduCALC insisted that bank
switching is not used on the 10MB card.  A special driver taking up
60KB is needed to access the card.  The person I talked to apparently
wasn't familar with the Microsoft Flash File System and said that a
proprietary file system is used.  They didn't know if other palmtops
would be supported as well.  The 10MB at least uses the new PCMCIA ATA
(AT Attachment) standard which allows up to 128GB of storage instead of
the mere 64MB of memory on PCMCIA 1.0 cards.  The cards are what could
be called unofficially Type 1.5 cards.  The HP-95LX allows for standard
Type I size cards, and for Type I size cards with a "bubble" on the
bottom (note the shape of the slot).

The card does not appear as drive A: but somewhere beyond C: (they
didn't know exactly). 
Can EXM files be located other than A or C drives?  Or would the use of
a device driver preclude locating EXM files on the card anyway?

EduCALC has right now for sale the ROM Demo card from HP.  The card has
the HP-95LX demo program along with a couple extra files like
config.sys and autoexec.bat.  The card can be used to recover from
corrupted C: files and is easy to pop open and attack with a soldering
iron.  The price is $12.95+shipping, stock number #2803.  EduCALC
800-535-9650 x9157.

I am only a satisfied customer of EduCALC and Hewlett-Packard.  I'm not
a customer or anything else of SunDisk (yet).
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: swood@algol.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood - EVENSONG)
Subject: Latests "Bests" on Poqet Prices?
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:32:09 GMT

I still want to get one of these little things.  What is the latest greatest
price in the land?

swood

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: cdb@fc.hp.com (Chuck Bade)
Subject: HP95 won't edit file w/ no ext
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:44:04 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.3 PL6]

Could someone confirm this for me?

My HP95, running with 95buddy won't open a file if it doesn't have an
extension.  

First get into filer.  Copy something to junk.  Move the cursor down to
junk, hit enter, then hit memo.  On 95buddy, this should start the editor 
and open the file junk.  But it can't open it.

Now try the same thing with junk.txt.  It works fine.  Is this a 95buddy
bug or an HP bug?

Regards,

--
   Chuck Bade           Manufacturing Development Engineer
                        HP Integrated Circuits Business Division
   cdb@fc.hp.com        (telnet/303) 229-6956


Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: Cohena@mdc.com (Andy Cohen)
Subject: Re: CallForDiscussion: A*BETTER* HP95LX?
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 22:39:50 GMT
Organization: MDGAC
Followup-To: comp.sys.palmtops

All technical inputs aside....a new 95 MUST have the following.....

EVANGALISM!!!!

Lets face it HP does not know how to market this awesome little sucker. 
Their PR is almost nonexistant...  OK they did an ad in an airline
magazine....once...  When Apple's Newton comes out we will see TV adds for
months.

...their developer evanglism is also missing....  with over 100,000 of
these machines out there, there should be alot more stuff to buy.....Why
isn't there more?  Simple...HP doesnt know how to push it.....  or maybe
Lotus has slowed them down...... either way the new products come out way
too slowly.....  Maybe this new guy Platte will recognize that the 95LX
needs some commercialization as well as developer evangelism....


By the way.....1,2,3 is a big plus for the 95.  Everytime I run into
someone in the airport with a 95 they are usually in 1,2,3....(imagine the
looks on their faces after I upload Tetris for them via the IR port....They
wig out)   with a sharp or casio toy, a spreadsheet costs alot more, and is
usually incompatible with the 1,2,3 and Excel stds.....OK I know......the
real 95 lovers here and on Compuserve want 1,2,3 out.....I say nay... 
1,2,3 is one of the 95's biggest selling points to the masses who purchase
it. Most people who own a 95 don't get on here or Compuserve...they look at
the 95 as if it was a Wizard (feh!)...from that standpoint the 95 always
wins....the cheapest price with the most memory and SW.  An almost
comperable (128K) wizard costs over $100 more...
From: cable@crs.cl.msu.edu (Dan Cable)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: autodialing with a palmtop or organizer?
Keywords: acoustic coupling, voice communications, rolodex, portfolio?
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:27:47 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

dei@lord.UUCP (Douglas E. Ivers) writes:

>I didn't get any response from my first posting, so I hope someone can
>help me...

>My number one desire for a palmtop/organizer is autodialing*.  The closest
>thing I've seen is the desktop (electronic) Rolodex unit at Radio Shack, but
>it must be plugged into the phone cable and is not meant to be portable.

>Doesn't the Portfolio have an analog speaker which could be used to
>autodial?  What about the forthcoming Newton?  I wish that I could say money
>is no object, but I am unwilling to invest more than about $500 in something
>that is so easy to steal as a palmtop.


>* autodialing in this case refers to using the palmtop's speaker, held up to
>the phone's microphone, to create the dial tones which initiate the call.

Atari's Portfolio (less than $200.00 street price) is fully capable of doing
just this and in fact I use mine to dial directly from the address book
regularly. To be completely honest, the volume on the speaker could stand to be
a tad higher but it works well in almost all situations.

--
Dan Cable                            e-mail cable@crs.cl.msu.edu
Canton MI USA planet Earth           Compuserve 75266.353