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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Networking 8bits with the cartridge port
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:31:24 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

[This is from Jeff Potter. He accidently sent it as a mail message
instead of posting it.]

In article <1992Aug31.112615.12434@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> you write:
|> 
|>      Well, with all this extra 8-bit equipment around, I was thinking of
|> trying to do some projects with them, ut the first thing I would like to
|> be able to do is to have a simple networking scheme, not requiring a
|> disk drive for each one.
|> 

The networking scheme you seem to describe sounds a lot like The Multiplexer
offered by Computer Software Services (CSS).  It consists of a collection
of cartridge interface boards, allowing up to 8 Ataris to access the same
drives and printers, and to talk to each other. Drop a line to Bob Puff
or Chris Freemesser (sp?) for more info.

BTW: the "Maze of Agdagon" networking scheme is not based on this device.

Also: Jeff McWilliams: the "OS in EPROMs selected by switch" idea sounds a
lot like the US+ OS Upgrade also by CSS.  The upgrade gives an XL/XE the
old 800 OS, the XL OS, or a third OS which allows Ultra Speed serial I/O
(with the proper disk drive) and bunches of keyboard-controlled modes.
Works real nice, too....

-- 
Jeff Potter
....potter@sunny0.dab.ge.com
....74030.2020@compuserve.com
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Later.......

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From: d1dol@dtek.chalmers.se (Fredrik Lundholm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: XEP80 and Monitor.
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:38:12 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

What kind of monitor is usable with the XEP 80?
Is a TV with A scart contact (PAL) sufficient?
Or do you have to use a special 80 column monitor?
anyone in Europe having experience of it?
Or shuld I wait for someone to convert the XEP 80 composite Video 
Signal to a R. G. B. equavilent.
Is Sparta Dos X available from somewhere?
anyone wishing to sell?
I am also interested in a Mac/65 cart or some other good assembler..
A Copyright Debate starter:
In Sweden Atari Released all their copyrighted program material 
to the Public Domain in Order to raise popularity.
I think that it was like this anyway, since an Atari sponsored,now defunkt,
User Group distributed all atari software for free....
Question:
Did Atari do this somewhere else or just in Sweden???


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: SpartaDos trashing directories!!!
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:37:08 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <Jim_Johnson.07gx@abcd.Houghton.MI.US>, Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson) writes:
> I never had a problem with Sparta 3.2 trashing directories as you mention. 
> I started out with 3.2 and upgraded to SDX with no problems.  What kind of
> drive & density are you using.

     Well, after some experimenting, it only does it (so far) with
double denisty disks. (I have a US Doubled 1050). 

     Could the us doubler go bad? (I haven't tried Single density
Ultraspeed yet though)

Later.......

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From: hill@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Hill)
Subject: Re: Bank Switching RAM
Keywords: XL, XE
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:43:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.215418.1568@ge-dab.GE.COM> potter@sunny0.dab.ge.com (Jeff Potter) writes:
>Well I've upgraded to an 800XL (from a ten-year old 800), and now realize
>my old copy of "Mapping the Atari" doesn't talk about the bank switching
>capabilities of the XL/XE series.  Can anyone point me to a good reference
>on the subject (ANALOG, Antic, Compute! articles), especially with examples
>and what to watch out for?  I want to turn off the OS ROM and use the RAM
>area for extra storage, but of course don't want the program to crash in
>the meantime (I'll be using assembly language, not BASIC).

Well, Compute! came out with an XL/XE version of "Mapping the ATARI" after
the introduction of the XL/XE machines - I've seen copies, so I know they
exist.  Try to find one of those.

			--Michael

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From: ue@nathan.do.open.de (Udo Erdelhoff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Cyberspace
Subject: Re: 16 MHz / Overscan questions
Reply-To: ue@nathan.do.open.de
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:35:08 +0200

In <1992Aug18.143241.5623@aston.ac.uk>, Auntie Tim writes:

Hi,
>Regarding Overscan, does it slow down the computer significantly when it's 
>running? If so, how much? There's also a hardware kit over here in the UK 
>called the "Autoswitch Overscan" which (I think) fits into the monitor 
>(Hi res) and costs 50 UK pounds- as I almost exclusively use Hi-res this 
>would be equally functional for me, so does anyone have experience of this?
>Is it better/worse than the PD overscan hardware mod?

I think that Autoswitch Overscan (or simple AOS) is much better than PD version
(which is called Hyperscreen if I remember correctly). When encountering a
"dirty" programm (those who only work in 640x400, mostly GFA-Basic programs) 
while using Hyperscreen, you'll have to switch off your computer, turn that
switch and restart. With AOS, all you have to do is quit the programm, and
restart it again while pressing a hotkey (ALT-CTRL) and AOS will switch back
to standard resolution. If you think you've got to use that dirty program 
for a longer time, just add it's name to AOS' inf-file and AOS will switch
back every time you start it. After finishing the program, AOS will switch
back to the extended resolution.

Additionally, Hyperscreen is no longer supported by it's author, AOS is. When
comparing the two programs, you'll also find that AOS has a very powerful
setup program allowing you to get the last pixel from your monitor. 

>Compatibility- I play a few games in colour, but presumably both these mods
>can be deactivated so that shouldn't be a problem (should it?) but in hi res
>I'm using (or planning on buying) Neodesk 3, Steinberg Cubase, Spectre GCR,
>and numerous ray-tracers, graphics programs, and STOS. Anyone have any 
>experience of how these programs work with 16MHz / Overscan modes? 
Most games won't work with overscan or 16 MHz, but that's no problem. AOS
needs its software to work, if you boot from disk to play, it won't be
activated so you'll have no problems...

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Udo Erdelhoff                ue@nathan.do.open.de                udo@iml.fhg.de
From: wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org (Markus Wenzel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Organization: Marsupilami's private UUCP site - Palumbien, Germany.
Subject: Re: TT Compatability questions
Keywords: TT, ST, compatible, games, applications
Summary: How 'compatible' is the TT with ST software?
Reply-To: wenzel@marsu.tynet.sub.org
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 17:07:32 MET

In <mack.714929181@deci>, Dan Mack writes:
> With the recent drop in TT prices, I'm considering purchasing one but
> first I'd like to know what people's experiences are with the TT.
> 
> 1 . Do games like Falcon, Flight Simulator, Sim City, etc. run well
>     on the TT?  Too fast?
Most games definetly don't work due to various reasons. Sim City 
works, very few other games do, too. The TT will never become a 
game machine. If this is really your first question, you should 
think about purchasing a Falcon, because most game programmers will
of course concentrate on that machine.

> 2.  Does Calamus and other word processing packages work?
Yes.

> 3.  Has Minix been ported over yet?
They're still working on it.
 
> 4.  Is there a Unix like OS  for the TT?  If so, has anyone gotton X11
>     R4 or X11 R5 to compile on a TT?
There's a System V R 4 from Atari Corp. containing X11/Motif and some
other neat stuff. It has only two problems: The ASV package is rather
expensive (in my opinion) and slow. But it is said to be quite stable.
 
> 5.  Are there any UNIXless X servers available for the TT?
Yes, I saw a demo of a Xserver software on Atari fair, even on
the 14" VGA screen in color. You could easily switch between TOS
and Xserver mode.

> 6.  If you own a TT, what are your impressions of the machine?
A good machine, but performance is lousy if you compare
the performance/money relation with a NeXT. You should better
look at the TT as a very fast ST and not as a workstation.
Yet, MiNT makes the TT worthy again.
Meanwhile, there are only minor compatibility problems left.

> 7.  Which version of the Atari OS do the TTs run?  2.?? 3.??
TOS 3.06 is the latest release, however, everyone is waiting
for TOS 4.0 + MultiTOS.

Regards, Markus.

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From: sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stefan Monnier)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: More TT030 help...
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:27:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.8edk7DS00awVAY5GJK
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 4-Sep-92 More TT030 help...
Daniel Aylward@hardy.u.w (1198)

> 2)  Screen trouble(?).  My TT Medium res screen is supposed to be 640X400
> 16 colors, right?  Well...  mine's 640X480!  Don't ask me how!  No
> graphics board; the VME slot is empty.  I have about an inch of extra
> space at the bottom of my screen.  I'm not complaining..., except that the
> desktop is shifted/squished a bit to the left of the white illuminated
> area, making things look *slightly* skinnier.  (BTW that's NOT the source
> of the extra room at the bottom of the screen; there are actually MORE
> pixels!  The 640X480 only happens in TT Medium, but the shift is there in
> all resolutions.)  Will a graphics board help this?  Are there any halfway
> decent VME graphics boards that are less than Crazy Dots?

> Thanks...

> Dan Aylward
> dud@u.washington.edu

the normal TT-medium IS 640x480 !!

	Stefan Monnier


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ganderso@unlinfo.unl.edu (gary anderson)
Subject: Can I un-arc MSDOS files on an ST?
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:09:13 GMT


I want to get some games via FTP for my young nephew who has an
IBM machine.  My machine is an Atari ST.

Can I un-arc these IBM files on my ST, as I would an ST file?  Or will
I need special software?  Or can I even do it at all?

(I know the easiest thing would be to get the files and the appropriate
unarc program and let him do it, but I know the procedure would
confuse him even more than it's confusing me...)

Thanks!

Gary Anderson
ganderso@unlinfo.unl.edu




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From: boblu@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Robert Luneski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Lost Message From Italy
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:29:06 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

Sorry to waste bandwidth.  A gentleman sent me a message yesterday regarding
Diamond Edge and Ultimate Virus Killer in Italy.  My mail reader ate your
message.  Would you plese resend the information so that I can send you more
information.

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From: seldin@alcor.concordia.ca ( JONATHAN SELDIN )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Reible-card and ST/X-windows:  how to buy in Canada?
Summary: Can't get info from Atari Canada
Keywords: Reible-card, ST/X-windows
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:09:29 GMT
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec

In May, I received information from Atari Canada that the
Reible-card would allow me to connect my TT to an ethernet
network, and that ST/X-windows would allow me to run X-windows
from the GEM desktop.  At the time, I was promised information on
the price and how to order it within days.

I have still not received this additional information, and Atari
Canada is not currently answering the telephone.

Can anybody tell me how much these products cost in Canada and
how they can be ordered from here?  (I want to pay for it from a
research grant, so it will have to be ordered through the
university purchasing department.)

Please reply by e-mail.  Thank you in advance.




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Concordia University			   seldin@vax2.concordia.ca
7141 Sherbrooke Street West, Montreal, Quebec, Canada, H4B 1R6
Organisation: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet, Muenster, Germany
Date: Friday, 28 Aug 1992 17:12:45 MES
From: Julian F. Reschke <RESCHKE@DMSWWU1A.UNI-MUENSTER.DE>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: More Official Falcon Specs wanted
 <10004@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>


In article <10004@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
says:
>This is an interesting question, since I believe even the more recent
>Amigas have something like a 1-meg limit on "chip memory".  The blitter
>on the ST had no such restrictions and the Falcon blitter is fully
>compatible with that one.  I supose it could, technically be limited to
>4Meg - since the entire ST could only (theoretically :-]) handle 4Meg.

The ST blitter definitively is NOT limited to 4MB - I already used it for
blitting on a graohics card (at $C00000). It *might* be limited to 16M.

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EMAIL: JULIAN@MATH.UNI-MUENSTER.DE, JR@MS.MAUS.DE
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: noykman%peruvian.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Nathan Dykman)
Subject: TT030 help!
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:06:29 MDT
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept

Hello fellow Atari users! I am interested in getting a TT030. But before
I do, I would like to have some questions answered.

How much more would an upgrade to 4meg cost, on average, over the basic system?
          ""                      8meg           ""

How much more would an upgrade to 120meg cost over a basic system?

What is a good price for a TT030 basic system?

How much software is avaliable or in delevopment for the TT?

Would it be possible to use the 68040 60mhz package of recent fame with
it?

When will TOS 3.06 come out standard on the TT (I heard this fall.) Will prices
be likely to rise after this upgrade? 

Any answer to the questions will very much appeciated! I have no intention of
leaving Atari's camp, and am looking forward to a INFORMED purchase? 

Once Again, thanks for all the information,

Nathan Dykman

(noykman@peruvian.utah.edu)

You may mail me or post here. Thanks!
From: Dirk_Steins@k2.maus.de (Dirk Steins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon Graphics
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:24:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: K2.A46237
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

k>Surprise!!!  The new AES that comes with MultiTOS not only has a new 3D
k>look to it, but it also allows icons to have up to 256 colors.  So, you
k>don't have to be happy with just 3D. <grin>

If you like you can have more than 256 colors in an icon. The new color icon
format supports up to 32767 planes in an icon. I think that should be enough
:-)

Dirk
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Subject: Re: AT-Speed and Windows 3.1? (2nd try)
From: dtarico@violet.ccit.arizona.edu
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:42:34 MST
 <1992Sep1.143058.1@milori.ccit.arizona.edu><1992Sep1.233319.10304@athena.cs.uga.edu> <0ed3a_m00Vpd0pgmcV@andrew.cmu.edu>
Distribution: world,local
Nntp-Posting-User: dtarico

In article <0ed3a_m00Vpd0pgmcV@andrew.cmu.edu>, sm86+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stefan Monnier) writes:
> Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 1-Sep-92 Re: AT-Speed and
> Windows 3... Kristopher Johnson@casto (188)
> 
>> I thought Windows 3.1 required at least a '386 to run?  The AT-Speed C16
>> *IS* only a 16MHz '286, right?  Maybe that's the problem.  Only Windows
>> 2.x will work on a '286, I believe.
> 
>> Steve
> 
> 
> Sure, Windows 3.1 shouldn't run on 286 but 3.0 should !! (even on 8088)
> 
> 	Stefan Monnier
> 
> 
> -----------------------------------------------------
> -- On the average, people seem to be acting normal --
> -----------------------------------------------------

Windows certainly does work on a 286 system, and even on AT-Speed.  It just
doesn't work on VGA on the AT-Speed.  I had to use EGA to get it to work.
It works just fine, though, and usably fast!
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From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Icon-Editor
Date: 27 Aug 92 01:19:58 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

In article <1992Aug25.212904.19974@actrix.gen.nz> Steven.Wells@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>Does anyone know where I can get an application for editing the
>DESKICON.RSC files (the icons) in TOS 2.?+
>
>I'm using a ReSourCe editor at the moment - but it is very slow, and
>very awkward to use - and every time I save the file, I have to delete
>the definition files it creates.
>
>ICONEDIT.APP is mentioned in the DESKICON.RSC as one of the icon names
>- and if it does the job, I'd like to get a copy from somewhere!!

There's two that I know of.  NewDesk Icon Editor from Software Development
Systems (SDS).  It runs as a CPX.  Latest version is 2.xx.  Very nice.
There's also the Icon Juggler (I think that's the name) from Codehead
Technologies.  They ship it free when you buy the ROMs or the TEC from them,
but everyone else can buy it from them for $10.  I believe the $10 also 
includes Codehead docs for NewDesk.  The Icon Juggler is not an icon editor
though; it edits the DESKICON.RSC.  I'm pretty sure you can only move icons
around, assign them to different files, and import icons from other files.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: darekm@microsoft.com (Darek Mihocka)
Subject: Gemulator - ready to ship, lower price!
Date: 28 Aug 92 00:43:41 GMT
Organization: BraSoft

Upgrade your PC compatible 386/486 computer to TOS 2.06 for under $200!

This is just to inform everyone that Gemulator is being released at a new
lower price. Until September 14th, you can order the Gemulator board
_and_ a set of TOS 2.06 ROMs for only $199, or you can purchase it
at the Glendale Atari show on September 12th and 13th for the same price.

This offer is being made by Purple Mountain Computers so if you have questions
call them (PMC) at 206-747-1519. The offer is not available through us.

- Darek

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From: ugafence@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (UB FENCING CLUB)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: what is toad's phone #
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:52:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


  Could somebody please tell me what the phone # is for toad?  Thank you..

.Philip
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st