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From: v056rcrx@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Chuck, the Fencing God)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: BEST LIVE ALBUMS
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


The best live albums according to ME  (and I'm all that counts, hehe)

GENESIS................................SECONDS OUT
RUSH...................................EXIT, STAGE LEFT
LED ZEPPELIN...........................THE SONG REMAINS THE SAME
STEVE VAI..............................LIVE IN SAN DIEGO (some bootleg at a bar)
ALLMAN BROTHERS........................LIVE AT THE FILLMORE EAST

                         Chuck "Genesis USED to be good" Farnsworth
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: SLAYER (CD for sale)
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 15:31:39 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <769tfn_@rpi.edu> bakoj@sage4c.its.rpi.edu (James J. Bako) writes:

>     Slayer:   "Decade of Agression" Live double-CD for sale.
>                original edition. Large book with pix included.
>                discs play without skipping.
> 
>         price: $20 (shipping included,U.S.) or best reasonable offer.


Noteworthy lists it for $18.73.

I bought a promo with no book for $12 and it is often found used for
$12-$16

Stop trying to rip off unsuspecting net.geeks just because you overpaid for
it. 

Just performing my patriotic duty.

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From: alex@nermel.EE.McGill.CA (A. Okapuu-von Veh)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Genesis concerts?
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:44:27 GMT
Organization: Undergraduate UNIX Lab, EE, McGill University

In article <1992Apr13.042344.19138@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> gwp@po.CWRU.Edu (Gregory W. Propeck) writes:
>
>Will someone please post a list of upcoming Genesis concert
>dates and places? Thank you.

Here's what I have: (no guarantees of any sort, though!)

North American Tour Dates:
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Place                        Location                   Date         Tickets
+++++                        ++++++++                   ++++         +++++++
Miami, FL 		     Joe Robbie Stadium         Sat, 5/16      3/21
Tampa, FL 		     Tampa Stadium              Sun, 5/17      3/21
Indianapolis, IN	       ?                        Thu, 5/21       ?
Columbus, OH                 Ohio Center                Fri, 5/22      3/16
Pontiac, MI     	       ?                        Sun, 5/24       ?
Cleveland, OH                Municipal Stadium          Mon, 5/25       ?
Pittsburgh, PA               Three Rivers Stadium       Tue, 5/26      3/23
Boston, MA                   Foxborough Stadium         Thu, 5/28      3/7
Montreal, QC                 Olympic Stadium            Fri, 5/29      4/3
Philadelphia, PA             Veteran's Stadium          Sun, 5/31      3/21
Meadowlands, NJ              Giants' Stadium            Tue, 6/2       3/16
Syracuse, NY                 Carrier Dome               Fri, 6/5        ?
Vancouver, B.C.              B.C. Place Stadium         Sun, 6/14      3/7
Los Angeles, CA                ?                         ?              ?
Madison, WI                    ?                        last US show    ?

Concerts in Germany:
+++++++++++++++++++
Gelsenkirchen                Parkstadion                Fri, 7/3        ?
Hockenheim                   Hockenheimring             Sat, 7/4        ?
Muenchen                     Olympiastadion             Sun, 7/5        ?
Hannover                     Niedersachsenstadion       Fri, 7/10       ?
Hannover                     Niedersachsenstadion       Sat, 7/11       ?
Berlin                       Maifeld                    Sun, 7/12       ?
Hannover                     Niedersachsenstadion       Mon, 7/13       ?
Mannheim                     Maimarktgelaende           Wed, 7/15       ?
Koeln                        Muengersdorfer Stadion     Mon, 7/27       ?
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: sportiga@isis.cs.du.edu (Steve Portigal)
Subject: Re: Weird Al Yankovic
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 16:08:11 GMT

cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI) writes:

>I just heard today one of the songs that will be on Al's new album.
>After thinking about what the result will be, I couldn't stop laughing.

>"Smells Like Teen Spirit"

   I saw a little clip on MuchMusic of the new video...had the same
cheerleaders, with one of them being a big hairy guy with a cigar...looked
really funny.  Don't know what the new title is, though.  MM is
having it's galactic premiere in a couple of days...
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wednesday, 8 Apr 1992 14:24:27 EDT
From: <MPS111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: rush trivia tidbits

     neil also did the spoken part in 'the necromancer' . and just for anyone's
info, alex said "that's nice" at the end of 'chain lightning' and terry brown
did the spoken part in 'cygnus x-1'.  on the same subject, who does the spoken
backing lyric in 'show don't tell'?
mike s.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: disc5e6@rosie.uh.edu (92S00302)
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 11:21:00 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.072923.15111@acsu.buffalo.edu>, becker@acsu.buffalo.edu (Don Becker) writes...
>rone@skat.usc.edu (Ron A. Echeverri) writes:
> 
>>Is there a Pink Floyd album besides "The Final Cut" in which there is not at
>>least one instrumental track? 
> 
>Meddle
>Wish You Were Here
>Animals
> 
>None of these have instrumentals.
> 
>--Don

   None of those have instumentals?  Since when....
Meddle is one of the most instumental albums of all.
First it has "One of these days" .  With only  the one line
"one of these days I'm going to chop...." it can hardly be called
anything but an instumental.  Esspecially since this line is not sung.
If "ECHOES" has any lyrics I'd sure like to know cause I've always thought
of it as a half-hour instumental.

And while technically Wish you Were Here has no instumentals , 
"Shine on you crazy Diamond" has nine parts and most of these are
instrumentals.

That seems to leave only The Final Cut The Wall and Animals

_Ken_ 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: grichmo1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Subject: S>U>B P<O<P
Organization: Swarthmore College
Distribution: global
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:22:15 GMT

	As many of us now know the independent label Sub Pop has become very hot,
fortunately this just means that good music is getting recognized, and they are
starting to make more cd's.  Unfortunately, I collect vinly and I still needed
some Sub Pop vinyl before the wave of popularity hit. Now it is very hard to
find things on the label and I hear they have a very small amount of vinyl
available.  Has anyone seen the catalog recently? if so what is available???? 
If you have any thoughts or questions or things you'd like to discuss about Sub
Pop bands please mail me direct at grichmo1@cc.swarthmore.edu   Praise sp129
and 130 (Monkeywrench and the Whigs).
Organization: Freshman, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 18:06:17 -0400 
From: John Michael Santore <jsbh+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Rush discography

> >Rush as a band is certainly large enough to warrant its own group.
> >They have been in existance for nearly 20 years, and have released
> >17 albums in that span.

> A friend of mine claims that there have been 21 releases total (some are
> probably pirated) Add or correct this list if we're wrong.

> 1. Rush
> 2. Fly By Night
> 3. Caress of Steel
> 4. Archives    (not on CD?)
> 5. 2112
> 6. Farewell to Kings
> 7. Hemispheres
> 8. Permanent Waves
> 9. All The World's A Stage
> 10. Exit Stage Left
> 11. Moving Pictures
> 12. Power Windows
> 13. Grace Under Pressure
> 14. Live Under Pressure (rare)
> 15. Hold Your Fire
> 16. Syrinx  (rare)
> 17. A show of Hands
> 18. Signals
> 19. Presto
> 20. Chronicles
> 21. Roll The Bones

> 	-Joseph Geniec
>          jgeniec@cis.ohio-state.edu

Syrinx and Live under Pressure are both non-official bootlegs so they
don't count... (besides Live under Pressure is just dubbed off of their
Grace UNder Pressure video)

This is NOT in order, but you left out the official releases (albeit
with NO original material) Rush through Time (collection) and Everything
Your Listeners Wanted to Hear By Rush... But You Were Afraid To Play (DJ
promo) both are rare.
There are 17 UNIQUE releases not counting Chronicles, Archives, and the
two I mentioned.
Plus they had the single You Can't Fight It/ Not Fade Away that was on
no album (released before the first) and there's many songs and stuff
where members of Rush played (i.e. Geddy Lee on Bob and Doug Mackenzies
Take Off song...)

			-John Santore

===============================================================
"We break the surface tension with our wild kinetic dreams" 
			-Rush, Grand Designs

Rush--Yes--Marillion--King Crimson--Emerson, Lake and Palmer
John Santore (jsbh@andrew.cmu.edu)
===============================================================
From: jester@crash.cts.com (Ken Bibb)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: NEED: from genesis to revelation
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:54:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr16.215411.13010
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

In <1992Apr16.122510.46415@qut.edu.au> sammut@qut.edu.au writes:




>I am after Genesis' first album, From Genesis to Revelation.

It goes under a lot of other names.  The version I have is called
"When the Sour Turns to Sweet".  There are dozens of other titles.


>Does anyone know whether it has been re-released on CD?

Definitely, but it's not necessarily going to be called "From Genesis
to Revelation".  If it's by Genesis, and you don't really recognize
the album title, it'll probably be that album.

--
jester@crash.cts.com
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Subject: Re: Buddy Holly vs. Elvis
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:13:30 GMT

lita@next02pg2.wam.umd.edu (Lisa Helene Helfman) writes:

>While the rest of the US is deciding which Elvis they want on their  
>stamps, some of us have been debating, for a very long time now, "Who's  
>the real King of Rock-n-Roll?"  Some of us strongly believe that if Buddy  
>Holly had not died tragically, Elvis would be nothing.  What do you think?  
>Who's the better of the two- Buddy Holly or Elvis


Well, It's Elvis.  He is the Lord thy God.  There shall not be no God before
him.  :)  Besides, Buddy Holly's house did not have a cool name.  And he did
not eat fied peanut butter and banana sandwiches.  Elvis had the burns and the
hips, while Holly had stupid glasses.  :)

Seriously, the king of Rock-n-Roll is Chuck Berry, because he created the 
sound.  Actually he should be the father of Rock-n-roll and the KINGS of 
Rock-n-Roll are RUSH and VAN HALEN because their music reigns supreme.
My opinion is the best opinion.


-- 
=====================================================
= John Meseke      email-jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  =
= "Some gals like to kiss my face.  Is it luck?"    =
==============================-Les Claypool==========
From: ewk@kraken.micro.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Def Leppard molests small children! SLAYER RULZ!
Date: 13 Apr 92 04:14:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Apr13.041404.17780
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.

In <92103.171123TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu> TJK115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>Yeah! Phil Collen is just the greatest guitarist ever...NOT!  You
>can't even compare him to somebody with Kerry King's skill!  Look

If you don't play guitar, shut up.  If you do, I expect to see full
musical explanations.  I have all the Slayer and Def Leppard albums,
so you should be able to reference any songs you want.

I get real tired of people saying this guitar player is better than
this guy WHEN THEY DON'T EVEN PLAY SIMILAR STYLES OF MUSIC!  Would
you compare Mark Knopfler and Ted Nugent, Eric Clapton and James
Hetfield, Eric Johnson and Alex Skolnick (Testament)??  Hell no!

Dead Skin Mask is a pretty slow song with a few power chords.  The solos
are pretty basic.  A pretty poor song if you're trying prove Kerry
King's "awesome" skill.

>--slide with me to your netherworld, emotion exquisite in sweet demise
>Suaron

-Rick
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: kevin@circus.Camex.COM (Kevin McKeon)
Subject: Re: Devon Square
Followup-To: kevin@camex.com
Organization: Camex Inc., Boston MA
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 13:01:03 EDT


I have found four recordings by Devonsquare, whaich are probably all
the fruits of their recording efforts. They are (in chronological
order):

		Devonsquare
		Night Sail
		Walking on Ice
		Bye Bye Route 66

The first two recordings can be found on one CD and is a Japanese
pressing. 


TANX,

KPM

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: zodiac@next15epsl.wam.umd.edu (Ken Lambert)
Subject: Re: Rush's YYZ  (trivia tidbits)
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:48:58 GMT

> 	No, I haven't read the book, but I *DID* see part of a movie that
> 	looked *REMARKABLY* like the story of Red Barchetta.  All I can
> 	remember is that it had Lee Majors and some kid in it, and they  
were
> 	racing across what was left of the U.S. to escape the authorities
> 	who had outlawed automobiles.
> 
> 	Does ANYBODY have any clue as to what I am talking about?
The song reminded me of that movie too!!! I can't remember the name. 
Wasn't burgis meridith in it? In a red car? 

Ken
From: machin@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dave Machin)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Pink Floyd
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:30:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.45351
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

OK, assuming an instrumental album has ABSOLUTELY no lyrics heres what Floyd
albums do and dont have intrumentals:

Tonight lets all make love in London: Yes, Interstellar Overdrive, Nicks Boogie
Piper at the Gates of Dawn: Yes, Interstellar Overdrive and Pow R Toc H
Saucerful of Secrets: Yes, A Saucerful of Secrets
More: Yes, Up the Khyber, Party Sequence, Main Theme, More Blues, Quicksilver
            Dramatic Theme
Ummagumma: Yes, A Saucerful of Secrets, Sysyphus, Grand Visiers Garden Part
Zabriskie Point: Yes, Heart Beat...Pig Meat, Come in Number 51...
Atom Heart Mother: Yes, Atom Heart Mother Suite and Alans Psychedelic (even
                   though he talks they're not lyrics)
Relics: Yes, Interstellar Overdrive.
Meddle: Yes, One of these Days
Obscured by Clouds: Yes, Obscured by Clouds, When you're in, Mudmen, Absolutely
                    Curtains.
Dark Side: Yes, Speak to me, On the Run, Great Gig in the Sky, Any Colour
                 you Like
Wish You Were Here: NO.  Even though Shine on is multi parts its all the
                   same song.
Animals: No
The Wall: No
A Collection of Great Dance Songs: Yes, One of These Days
Final Cut: No
Works: Yes 
Momentary Lapse: Yes, Signs of Life and Terminal Frost
Delicate Sound of Thuner: Yes, One of These Days 
Knebworth: no

That makes 15 WITH instrumentals and 5 WITHOUT

Hope that clears things up
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: maple@seas.gwu.edu (Maple Moriji)
Subject: Re: Def Leppard in Time
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:26:25 GMT


TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu (Sime) writes:
: 
: While I must agree with Maple here, I have no wish to start a flame war.
: (I'll just sit back and watch his.)
: 
: But what I wanna know is, why does everyone say a band is great because
: they've sold 8 zillion albums, or rocketed to the top of the pop charts
: past Springsteen?  Hell, most of the garbage in the top 40 is horrible
: if you ask me.  Just cause a band sells a lot of albums doesn't mean that
: they are good.  It means that MTV has brainwashed most of america into
: buying it through massive overplay.
: 
:  Sime

I totally agree with you, Sime!  Who cares about billboard statistics.
No matter how many albums posers sell, their music is still gonna
suck.  I think it's fair to say that most Americans don't know what
true art is.

Long live Emperor Suaron!

lADA,

Maple

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: cs2532af@triton.unm.edu (Steve Gonzales)
Subject: ATTENTION RANDY RHODES FANS 
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 02:50:40 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


	for sale cassette tape of Quiet Riot album
	the very first lp.

	1979

	Slick Black Cadillac		Killer Girls
	You Drive Me Crazy		Face to Face
	After Glow (of your love)	Inside You
	Eye for an eye			We've got the Magic
	Trouble

	Kevin Dubrow vocals		Randy Rhodes guitar
	Drew Forsyth drums		Rudy Sarzo bass

	Send $15.00 to:
		Steve Gonzales
		1510 13th Street
		Washington, DC 20005

	price includes CrO2 cassette and all postage and handling.
From: dcarter@supra.East.Sun.COM (Dave Carter-Sun-Atlanta GA-Atlanta District MCC)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Def Leppard CD
Keywords: heard it
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:02:55 GMT
Reply-To: dcarter@supra.East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: supra.east.sun.com

I finally went out and purchased the new Def Leppard CD.
I hate to say it but I wish I hadn't. I have all their other
stuff, bt this one is to weak. It seems to have gone from a 
likeable hard rock sound with a beat, to a TOP40 band. Every song
is weak, and what's this with all the slow shit. 

I wish they come out with an album that sounds more like High N Dry.
Even though, Adrenalize will sell millions, but I figure most of the sale will be to the teenage bracket.

David
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: msiggins@esk (Michael Brian Siggins)
Subject: Re: VH's "316"...
Organization: /etc/organisation
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 06:43:30 GMT

In article <1546@sdrc.COM> wggabb@sdrc.COM (Rob Gabbard) writes:
>From article <92087.090551BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu>, by BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu:
>> Does anyone know what the origin/meaning/significance of the number "316"is
>> from the instrumental song of the same name off "For...Knowledge"???
>
>March 16th was the birthdate of Eddie & Val's son Wolfgang.
>
Aparently he used to play it to him to send him to sleeP>-- 
>The statements above are my own and do not neccesarily reflect the opinions 
>of my employer.
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Technical Development Engineer                  UUCP: uunet!sdrc!rob.gabbard
>Structural Dynamics Research Corporation
From: coxm@Software.Mitel.COM (Michael Cox)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: ALAN PARSON'S PROJECT
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:40:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <1992Apr4.203839.1@acad3.alaska.edu> fsmlm2@acad3.alaska.edu writes:

[previous information deleted]
>
>APP has been around since 1981.  Eric Woolfson as far as I know did write
                           ^^^^
Try 1977 since that's when "Tales of Mystery and Imagination" was released.

>most of APP's music.  I heard rumour that they all do have degrees in music
>however, Alan Parsons who produces the albums does not read music, play
>an instrument, no does he sing. (not bad for someone who was voted best
>male singer in 1984 by some poll!)

BTW the Beatles could not read music either.

-- 
Michael H. Cox      | "I'm hovering like a fly, waiting for a windshield on the
                    |  freeway."  Genesis -- Lamb lies down on Broadway
Mitel Coroporation  |
"Switch me ON"      |
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: jpm56290@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Duner)
Subject: Re: Rush ?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:41:59 GMT

  A question about this was asked on Rockline, and Neil said it was a joke.
  Geddy and Alex wanted to name an album or a song or something called
  "Gangster of Boats" why I don't know.  Part 4 of a trilogy was a joke.
  They always bugged Neil about Gangster.


-- 
=====================================================
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= "Some gals like to kiss my face.  Is it luck?"    =
==============================-Les Claypool==========
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: pat@mks.com (Pat Inglis)
Subject: Re: 3 best songs in a row
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 13:23:48 GMT

From The Red Hot Chili Peppers _Bloos Sugar Sex Magik_,

Funky Monks
Suck My Kiss
I Could Have Lied

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From: billande@bailly.rutgers.edu (Bill Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Aerosmith & Clapton
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:22:08 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

caudlerobina@bvc.edu writes:

>I have two questions regarding two different artists.
>First of all, for all Aerosmith fans, what would you suggest to be the next 
>Aerosmith compact disc to purchase?  I have "Pump" and "Permanent Vacation" 
>and I really like them both.

	I'd suggest "Toys in the Attic".  This is the album that has
"Walk This Way" & "Sweet Emotion"(among others).  Actually, any of the
first 4 albums (Aerosmith, Get Your Wings, Toys in the Attic, Rocks)
is probably a safe bet.

>Secondly, I have recently started listening to Eric Clapton and really like 
>his blues stuff and some of his rock.  I have the "Rush" soundtrack and "24 
>Nights" and am wondering what else is good?

	"Slowhand" is my suggestion.  Also, "Layla and Other Assorted
Love Songs" by Derek and the Dominoes is a good one to have.

>Thanks!

You're welcome.

Bill Anderson