HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:50:44 GMT

In article <Bw6DDI.J15@cmptrc.lonestar.org> neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
[...]
|	 CBR900RR
|	 And the biggest, gaudiest Gold Wing with everything on it including
|	 a sidecar and a trailer

  Watch out Bob...  He's after your ride... :-)  (Well, maybe not - Mr. Ciotti
didn't have a sidecar rig last I saw).

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: sysop@elan.glassboro.edu (Ken Denton (Supervisor))
Subject: To Gal Kaplan (bounced my mail)
Keywords: firstgear leather scout
Organization: Glassboro State College, Glassboro, NJ
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:47:49 GMT


>So, I'm trolling for opinions on the Scout/Concord,
>and on the HG Nevada touring pants & boot-cut leather jeans.
>       Thanks,
>       ~~~
>       ~~~ Gal         DoD #623        gal@das.harvard.edu
>       ~~~
Gal,
	I am also looking at the Scout jacket from Firstgear.  I think it is
their best looking jacket, but do wish it was available mail-order.  The best
price I have found so far is $395, which is 15% off list.  
	Please E-Mail me any responses you get before Friday at 2:00, as 
that is when I will be making a $395 dent in my credit card.  I would hate
to spend all that and find out that fellow denizens have many horror stories 
re: HG.

%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
%          Ken Denton                     DOD# 1124           %
%          sysop@elan.glassboro.edu       91 ZR750            %
%                                                             %
%                         "Your Ad Here!"                     %
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From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Summary: You are obviously impaired.
Date: 7 Oct 92 21:23:36 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Oct7.190150.16962@wam.umd.edu>, delilah@next09epsl.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona) writes:

] a radar detector is a passive device; you can't detect whether someone has 
] it,

Wrong.

] but it is fairly easy to let out a pulse of r.f. radiation and see who
] responds as if using one (i.e., see who suddenly brakes for no other  
] apparent reason).

Connecticut's finest employ (used to, now that the anti-RD bill
passed) this stone-age method to catch detector users.

As I stated earlier (with a couple others) they make detector
detectors, which detect the smaller amounts of radio waves generated
by superhet detectors.  You choose to ignore the facts (also posted by
several) about detectors setting other detectors off. 


Duh.

Kevin
DoD#3278
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

Heads Up You R100GS owners!


Just got my copy of the BMW MOA magazine. A fellow rider wrote a tale of
woe about a little gotcha in his 1988 R100GS that burned up a $390 wiring 
harness. His occurred at 10,000 miles. 

I found mine was getting close to failure at 16,000 miles.

Here it is:

There is an auxiliary wiring harness from the main harness that carries
power to the two solenoids for the fuel and air control systems. These
solenoids are under the black cover on top of the engine and are
forward of the airbox.

These aux. harnesses are not secured to the bike and are long enough to
touch the metal cover of the top of the engine. The failure mode is that
this harness vibrates against the top of the engine,first cleaning the
black paint away and then abrading the wire insulation from the harness
until a short results. For some reason, such a short uses the wiring harness
in the bike to protect the fuses in the fuse box.

The fix is trivial- protect these wires from rubbing against the engine.

In my case, I used some of that clever corrugated plastic wiring harness
conduit with the split down the side (avail. in auto parts stores) to
add another layer/spacer of material between the harness and the metal.
(It's easiest to do if you remove the gas tank.)

The black paint on the top of my engine was starting to disappear. The 
wiring was ok.

IF YOU OWN AN R100GS OR R100R I HIGHLY RECOMMEND YOU LOOK FOR THIS - NOW!

Remember- if you let the smoke out, your electrics won't work!

Ron Miller
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley Outperforms ZX11, Film at Eleven
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:26:44 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Michael Zeleny (zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Oct10.060211.22370@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
: car377@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (charles.a.rogers) writes:
: 
: >OK, prove that *any* inline-four will go 185,000 miles and require nothing
: >more than a top-end job and a cylinder honing to put it back on the street.   
: >This capability has been demonstrated and documented where Evos are concerned.  
: >I doubt you'll find that it's true of any sport bikes.
: 
: As someone who has seen the insides of a good number of motorcycle engines,
: I'll venture to make a few observations on this subject.  Regardless of the
: engine configuration, any roller-bearing crankshaft motorcycle with a
: decent oil filtration system will be able to best your numbers.  In
: particular, this is true of Laverdas, which are known for their crank
               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
: bearing longevity (the only one I ever heard of that required new bearings
: was run on the street with 7C race camshafts, which produce maximum power
: about 500 r.p.m. above the factory suggested "sport" redline), in spite of
: possessing only a brass mesh oil filter.

I had a Laverda Jota, back in 1980.  There was a letter with the owner's 
documant which stated that the engine had been rebuilt after about 17,000 
miles.  The letter was basically an apology from Massimo Laverda himself.  The
crank had snapped and the then owner had complained to the shop who contacted
the importers who referred it straight to the factory in Italy.  They came over
and flew the bike back to Italy and stripped down and then examined the crank
in their laboratory.  Apparently a flaw in the metal had caused the problem, so
they rebuilt the engine, ran it in and then flew it back to England.  They had
given the owner something else to ride in the meantime.  They were very 
apologetic and said they had increased the quality control of their process.


Just a bit of Lav trivia for you.

Nick (the Oldtimer Biker)  MAG 73516   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford


M'Lud.
From: dbc@po.cwru.edu (Dean Cookson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Shaft effect, What is it?
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 17 Oct 1992 04:41:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62003.student.cwru.edu

In article <1bne26INN6te@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>, egreen@east.sun.com (Ed
Green - Pixel Cruncher) wrote:
> 
> I'll tell you what reality is:  this net is overrun with childish
> adolescents who get such a glee out of suckering serious answers to
> stupid questions, it is useless as a forum for requesting legitimate
> information on motorcycles.

Yep, I'm sure that was the reason Jeff 'rama llama ding dong' Deeney sent
me several K worth of CB750 DOHC rebuild info. :-)

Thanks again Jeff!

| Dean Cookson / dbc@po.cwru.edu / 216 754-1834 | DoD #207  AMA #573534|
| Case Western Reserve U. Computer E. and Sci.  | KotNML  /  KotB      |
| "You can lead the house to order, but you     | '81 CB750C           |
| can't make it think"  -William Weld (Gov. Ma.)| '88 Bianchi Limited  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: suminski@polymnie.med.ge.com
Subject: This won't hurt a bit.  Now bend over...
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Originator: suminski@polymnie
Keywords: Insurance
Reply-To: suminski@polymnie.med.ge.com (Matt Suminski)
Organization: GE-CGR Medical Systems - Buc, France
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 09:51:30 GMT

Once I move back to the US, I'll never bitch about insurance 
rates again.  Here in Paris, the lowest I've been able to 
find is just under 5000 francs/year.  At 5 francs to the $, 
the dollar figure is left as an exercise to the reader.  
I was paying less than $300/year in the States.  

So the question is, do you know if your US insurance covers
you overseas?  If so, what insurance company is it, and do you
know if it still covers you if you live in another country as
opposed to just visiting?

If not, I'll be forced to sell.  Anyone in the Wisconsin area want to
buy a cheap `89 Katana 750 in perfect shape?  It's all stock, about
9500 trouble free miles cruising at DoD minimum speed, never been in a
police chase, etc etc.  I'll be in Milwaukee next week, so answer fast
on e-mail...




-- 
Matt Suminski           | suminski@polymnie.med.ge.com 
GE-CGR Medical Systems  | 89 Katana 750, DoD #0483 
Paris
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Date: 17 Oct 92 01:48:01 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, czw70@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (CA Whitfield) said:
:- ravi@cs.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan) writes:
:- > parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
:- >|> Okay, denizens...If you caould only have 5 bikes in your garage,
:- >|> what would they be?
:- >|> 
:- >	1. honda	nsr750
:- >
:- Er, shouldn't that be NR750, or is this just wishful thinking.

	if chris isn't going to get us the bikes (i kinda assumed he is
	going to, but, as ed green would agree, there are enough of such
	baiters around! ;) then i suppose any bike (forget the honda)
	before the next five years would be wishful thinking on my part!

:- 5 to own:
:-            Aprillia 250 GP racer      (Italian, chic, and not a Ducati)
:-            Luigi Segale CBR600        (Ditto, and street legal)
:-            Egli DRB1 N2O Turbo        (Use the gas, lose your warranty)
:-            Triumph 900 Daytona        (In yellow with added White Power)
:-            Montesa 247 Cota           (nostalgic feet-up sweety)

	you mean this list isnt wishful??? you can actually afford to
	buy all these bikes?!!! hmmm... i guess i am just a poor old
	.edu type ;)

	peace,

	- ravi

-- 
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          end and flames at the other. (C).  :       Suzuki GS500E
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: MSF Sticker = bisexual?
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:19:21 GMT

Bikes and bike training courses ARE bisexual.  What's the problem?


Nick (the Swinging like a Gate Biker) MAG 73516  DoD 1069  Gay Rights Manifesto


M'Lud.


Sidecar> I wonder if Julian Cleary rides a pink Hardly?
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bicycle vs motorcycle flame war, part XXXVII
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:43:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: unisql.3973
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1992Oct14.211112.7675@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.164544.23348@megatek.com> randy@megatek.com writes:
>>  No, you were an idiot...
>No, you were an idiot.  

Infinity.



-- 
Ray Shea                       Practice random cruelty 
UniSQL, Inc.                   and senseless acts of violence.
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu       
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Crosswinds
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:14:12 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA



I can't believe this group!   In a moment of sillines I asked "So how does
a buzzard countersteer?".   At first nothing.  Then a few days later a
responder asks "African or European?".    Nothing for another couple of
days, and then it starts.  Right now Jonathan and Rich are dueling over
the use of the rudder to countersteer small aircraft!  It is my fault 
that I started this,  but I definately aint finishing it!  I can
understand the feelings of those looking for a more purely technical
forum for moto discussion.

Given the propensity for the readers of rec.moto to argue over anything,
we could either create a .tech forum for purely technical discussions 
(although techno geek discussions on the minutae of con rod angularity
 and countersteering ice cream cones leave me glassy eyed after a while),
or simply preface the subject line with 'TECH' for those who wish to
persue a purely technical discussion.  The subject line TECH would allow
for easier filtering for those people uninterested in attack buzzards and
Spagthorpes.

Terry

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "You got, ahh say you got it all     |
 | DoD# 541   'Debunkers of Dogma'    |  wrong son"      Foghorn Leghorn     |
 | HIFI#                              |                                      |
From: benjamin@rice-chex.ai.mit.edu (Benjamin Renaud)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Is anyone out there a bike thief?
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:41:28 GMT



In article <1161@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com> meb4593@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Michael Bain) writes:
>rtaraz@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
> >I think that _you_ somehow left it on park when you left.  The poor
> >fuck saw your tail light on, so he thought maybe you left the bike
>
>lights on, tried to find the light switch to turn it off to save your
>battery (not knowing there is not switch) and got thumped in the process
>for being a good samaritan.  And so when you got 
>
>Michael "Chuck" Bain                       meb4593@icdfs.ca.boeing.com  

No No No. The guy -was- trying to steal the bike and -had- messed up
with the lock. I know that from later developments, which i'd rather
not go into know (it'd take a long time)

Anyway, don't get your bike stolen,

Peace,
Benjamin
benjamin@ai.mit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Almost had it stolen tonite!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:17:14 GMT

In article <BD.92Oct12132918@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
>
>>I have many times read reports of shootings where a police officer put a clip
>>of 9mm into a drug-user and eventually said perpetrator bled to death, but
>>not before beating shit out of police officer.
>
>Does this belong in alt.folklore.urban?  I don't believe anyone,
>PCP or not, beats the shit out of a cop after taking a *clip* of
>9mm (maybe, if the clip only had 1 bullet in it).

Allow me to translate this:
 
Uses drugs + concocted story of attacking cop == please fill with lead ==
commendation and a nice plaque.
 
Police found four bodies in home. Victims where bound, gagged and shot
in the head execution style. Police found evidence of drug usage.
The End.
 
================================================================================
 Ipsissimus of the Inner Order of Sesquipedalian Fruitcakes - IIOSF XOX Dawn
 Sesquipedalian's 'R' Us. ZX-10. DoD#564. There ain't no more.
================================================================================
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crpresto@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Charlie Preston)
Subject: Re: Hippo hands
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 16:18:25 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University
Keywords: brrrrrrrr

In article <1992Oct6.151707@is.morgan.com> spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner) writes:
> How safe are they? Will they keep you attached to the
>bike in a crash? How easy are they to slip into? Will they increase the
>curse factor at tollbooths?

The ones I used were easy to get into when wearing guantlet gloves.  Otherwise
sometimes my jacket sleeve was a little reluctant to go in (i.e., may increase
the curse factor).  A word of caution when riding at highway speed:  the wind
may cause them to put pressure on the clutch and front brake levers.

Chas
From: kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:28:11 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <1992Oct5.153152.764@rd.hydro.on.ca>, jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:

] There are better ways to get one's protein fix, but none more dramatic.

Well, maybe _one_ way more dramatic.

] 
] I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
]      got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
]                          ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: randy@megatek.com (Randy Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Why is my face shield so scratched so soon?
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:59:52 GMT
Reply-To: randy@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California

In article <1992Oct7.202655.153@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
|Time to get a new face-shield and treat her right this time.
|
|Are there helmets with face-shields so easily interchangeable that
|one could put on the tinted shield for day and the clear shield
|for night? Any recommendations?

  Hmmm...  I've got a couple of old Shoie Z-100's that use the exact same
shields as most (all?) later-model Shoie helmets such as the RF108V and
RF-200.  They only take perhaps a minute to change shields - just unscrew
two big plastic screws with a dime (or, sometimes, you get a plastic
screwdriver to put on your keyring that matches the shields), and screw the
new one on.

  Are there any well-thought-of helmets that have an appreciably faster
faceshield replacement method?

Randy Davis                            Email: randy@megatek.com
ZX-11 #00072 Pilot                            megatek!randy@uunet.uu.net
DoD #0013                                     ucsd!megatek!randy
From: marrevola@iris-dcp.es
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: If you could pick only 5 bikes...
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:48:09 +0100
Organization: REDIRIS, Red Nacional de I+D


These are the five perfect bikes for me:

1.-GSXR-1100W ('93)
2.-NSR 500 (if it`d exist) 
3.-HUSKY 510
4.-BETA Tarres replica
5.-DOMINATOR

	Do you like trail,trial,crossand road-racing? Yes, I do.
From: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Riding Lessons?
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:12:42 GMT
Reply-To: cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi)
Distribution: na
Organization: NSWC, Carderock Div. Det., Annapolis Facility

Copy of article from dc.forsale asking for motorcycle lessons -

Anyone looking for work?

Mark
 ------------------------
Article 2780 of dc.forsale:
From: MLACROS@auvm.american.edu (Martha LaCrosse)
Newsgroups: dc.forsale
Subject: Need Motorcycle Lessons!
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:08:33 GMT
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center

I need to learn how to ride a bike before january of 1993 for a cross-
country ride.  I don't have a bike or a helmet, and need lessons before
I buy them.  Will pay, of course.  Please E-Mail your teaching fee,
conditions, etc to:   MLACROS@auvm.american.edu.  Thanks!
 ------------------------

-- 
	Mark Cervi, CARDEROCKDIV, NSWC Code 2752, Annapolis, MD  21402
	  cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil, (w) 410-267-2261, (h) 410-647-0990
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: And the dead shall drive the earth!
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 1992 15:20:43 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.134345.20480@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
[guy tries to kill Our Very Own JJD]

> Perhaps using the helmet as a club, eh?
> No I'm 6' 175 lbs. This guy had me by 5'' and a hundred pounds.
> Trying to head butt this guy would have resulted in my broken neck.

Probably the thing to do would be to continue the inch forward, let him follow
routine, until he was about a mile from his car, then take off.  Or maybe
get him far enough away, circle back, and pull the keys from his ignition.
Then find a nearby storm sewer.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: close call! & a question
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:07:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <962z=1g@rpi.edu> root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon) writes:
>
>My daily commuter is a 1980 Honda CB750 custom.
>At the end of my normal 20 mile commute I was making a left into a parking lot.
>I had signalled and as I was in the middle of my turn, a cager tried to pass
>me on a double yellow. I saw her in the corner of my eye in the last second.
>I stopped, but her rear bumper hit the tip of my front tire, the handlebars
>went full lock right. I didn't dump it, and I gave the bike a close look-over
>and nothing seemed dented or bent. I took the bike out for a test drive , I was 
>in the city now and didn't get over 40 mph, the bike drove fine, but now the
>handlebars seem slightly out of alignment . When going straight, the bars are
>turned slightly to the left. Is this something that can be easily repaired,
>or is something major, like getting a new set of forks?
>
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>J.R. Ordon       '80 CB750C
>
>The views expressed here are mine and not my employers


Probably you will only need to have the forks aligned.  It is easy,
move the forks to the full locked position and kick the front edge of 
the tire sideways just as hard as you can in the direction that you wish
the forks to twist.  If this does not work after a couple of trys, you
will need to loosen the bolts (or allen screws) on the fork clamps
at the top and bottom of the stearing head.  Then kick the tire 
again, re-torque the bolts and test ride. Repeat until the handlebars
are aligned.




--
      Michael L. Johnson
      mlj8e@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: greg@acme.claremont.edu (Tigger)
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Organization: Pomona College
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:40:26 PDT

In article <1992Oct7.192111.17919@wam.umd.edu>, delilah@next09epsl.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona) writes:
> 
> i looked into it myself (i.e., took rides on harleys to see if  
> there was any advantage from a pure riding viewpoint; there wasn't) 

I find the riding position of sportbikes uncomfortable as hell.  On
the other hand, I find the riding position of cruisers to be very
comfortable.  That sounds to me like a pure riding advantage, at
least for me.  If you want to believe that all Harley riders are in
it so other people will associate them with the mystique, go ahead.
But you'll be wrong.  Some of us just think they're beautiful bikes
that are a pleasure to ride.

Greg
DoD #0486
No, my current ride isn't a Harley
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: DEAF MOTORCYCLISTS
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:08:52 GMT

In article <1055@cybaswan.UUCP> eeharvey@cybaswan.UUCP (i t harvey) writes:
>PS What exactly is a plug-chop. TIA.

In early 20th century U.S. colloquial speech, I believe it's
a kind of horse steak.  Yum!
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.