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From: jod@equator.com (John Setel O'Donnell)
Subject: Allergy supplies
Organization: Equator Technologies, Inc., Seattle, WA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:35:13 GMT

Some time ago someone asked about air cleaners, etc. for dust allergies.
I finally found the reference I was looking for, a supplier
I've used before for a variety of allergy products at reasonable
prices.  National Allergy Supply, 800-522-1448.

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Seattle, WA                               Read everything by Alice Miller.
From: mdebuitlear@vms.eurokom.ie
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Immunotherapy
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:14:44 GMT
Organization: EuroKom Conferencing Service

In article <1h7oofINNf94@im4u.cs.utexas.edu>, turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes:
> -*---
> ee-WRree-WRee-WRee-WRe...  
> 
> In article <1992Dec21.210514.5616@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
>> I have some information about two different methods of 
>> immunotherapy. Both of these are considered highly
>> "alternative". That is, they are not in any way approved
>> by the FDA, ...
> 
> More likely, it means there is no evidence that they do any
> good.
> 
>> Be that as it may, they have saved many, many lives. ...
> 
> The last time we went down this road, Robert Greenstein showed 
> that he doesn't know evidence from shinola.  Since this is 
> sci.med, rather than the alternative medicine newsgroup which
> is now available, I will call Robert Greenstein on this and 
> ask him what evidence he has that these therapies have saved
> any lives.  
> 
> Russell

People who are going to die don't really give a damn about scientific
evidence. ** As long as the suggestions don't do any harm and don't cut 
across conventional treatment **, they have nothing to lose. If Robert 
knows of a few people whose lives have been saved by some _safe_ treatment
and witheld that information from someone who requested it, it would be a 
far greater crime, IMHO.  

Think about it, if you had inoperable stomach cancer and were given 
two months to live and someone told you that they knew several people who
had reversed similar conditions by drinking large amounts of carrot juice,
would you try it ? 


> (And yes, I have reset my bullshit detector, and every time I see this 
> kind of stuff in sci.med, I will ask the poster the same question.)
 
It gets quite boring after a while, Lone Ranger.


Micheal.

M.De.Buitlear@EuroKom.ie
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: tas@pegasus.com (Len Howard)
Subject: Re: Ear Care solution
Followup-To: sci.med  
Summary: overkill  
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 19:58:45 GMT

In article <C03v5s.1x6@techbook.com> kim@techbook.com (Kim Larsen) writes:
>
>So that I could use one of my Christmas presents, I had my ears re-pierced
>a day or so ago (at a store, not by a doctor).  After shooting me with the
>earring gun, the clerk gave me a botle of "Ear Care Solution," which I am
>supposed to use to anoint my earlobes three times a day for 6 weeks.
>
>The solution lists as its active ingredient benzethonim chloride 0.13%.  What
>is this stuff (some sort of anti-bacterial, I assume), why can't I just
>use H2O2, and is it really necessary to use it for so long?
>
>  --Kim
>
Sounds like overkill in the prevention area to me, Kim.  This way if
you should develop any infection they will suggest that you must have
missed some doses, and that's why it got infected.  When I was in
private practice we used to pierce lobes for our patients and did not
use anything.  I don't remember ever seeing an infection.  The lobe is
richly supplied with blood as you will remember, and the body will
take care of most every assault in that area.
     I trust the Christmas present looks grand......
Happy New Year, Kim                            Len Howard
From: hodgeman@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (William Hodgeman Jr)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Dylantin
Date: 23 Dec 1992 16:26:25 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: hodgeman@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Originator: hodgeman@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

From article <ljerpoINNa9c@news.bbn.com>, by fgedzium@BBN.COM (FrancEs Gedzium):
> My 36 year old sister was diagnosed as a petit mal epileptic when she was about
> 3 years old.  She has taken dylantin up until 2+ years ago when she decided to

> Is it possible she never had epilepsy?  Could the dylantin have been keeping
> the brownouts and heart racing under control all this time?  What direction 
> should she take?  
> 

Remember, the diagnosis generally depends upon the parent's description
of the seizures,  since the neurologist usually doesn't see the actual
event.  EEG's can confirm seizure activity in the brain, but as
far as what kind of seizures, and which medication to use, a lot
depends on the parent's description.

Question:  While she was still taking the Dilantin, did she ever
have a recurrence of the seizures?
The reason I ask is this...The current treatment plans say
that if you have not had a seizure in two years while on the
medication, then you are probably not going to have any more,
and you can taper off the medication.  That brings up another
question, did your sister taper off the medication, or just
quit taking it?  Because if she just quit, it is possible that she
could have "rebound seizures", caused by a sudden reduction in
blood levels of Dilantin.

Remember, 10% of all people will have a seizure in their lifetime.
But somewhere around 70-80% of those people will never have
another episode.  A person is not classified as "epileptic"
(I hate that word) unless they have recurring seizures.
Also, note that a *very* large majority of people who have
seizures during childhood outgrow the problem at puberty.

I am not a doctor by any stretch of the imagination,
but according to everything I have read about seizures,
your sister's problems are not seizure-related.  Could
it be pregnancy-onset diabetes?  Who knows?  I would
suggest two things:  First see a good neurologist, Second
see your Family Practice doctor about the brownouts.

Hope This Helps.

Bill                              (hodgeman@csd4.csd.uwm.edu)
From: mdebuitlear@vms.eurokom.ie
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Bashing, truth, etc.
Date: 23 Dec 92 19:14:31 GMT
Organization: EuroKom Conferencing Service

In article <1992Dec22.171835.21189@spdcc.com>, dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
> Indulging Herman Rubin by engaging him in a discussion is guaranteed to
> yield nothing of "significance", no matter how many times it occurs.
> It's the same damn one-note harangue each time--I can't imagine a bigger
> waste of time.
> 
> -- 
> Steve Dyer
> dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer

Yes - but if we discuss it N times and allow for the changing cosmos, 
planetary alingment, and seasonal factors, it may produce a demonstratable 
effect, measurable by divining rod :-)

Micheal.
From: habersch@husc9.harvard.edu (Oren Haber-Schaim)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Health hazard in halogen lights?
Date: 2 Jan 93 06:10:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.habersch.725955032
th: husc.harvard.edu!habersch

>In article <BzzArw.EC2@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> amirza@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu 
	(Anmar Caves) writes:
>>This is somewhat incorrect.  Without a UV filter, the UVA and UVB
>>output of a 50 watt QH (quartz-halogen) desk lamp at 1 foot ...
> 
>This is totally true, and totally misleading.  

"Totally misleading", yes, but why did you say it is "totally true"?  Did
you calculate it?   No, or you would have found otherwise.

One might say that it is more polite to start with a point of agreement
before disagreeing, and that is a commendable desire.  But I feel one
should not make absolute statements with an air of authority unless one is
an expert in the field or has otherwise done one's homework.  After all,
this is sci.med, not talk.med. 


>from them.  Take a look at a theater stage some time.  They aften use
>100s of Halogen lamps which are typically between 500-2000 watts (10 to
>40 times a powerful as your punny desk lamp).  If what you said was 
>true, then actors would be sun burnt after every show.  

Not necessarily.  Don't forget that UNshielded tungsten-halogen
lamps still are less UV-rich than the sun.  

There seems to be a widespread misunderstanding that tungsten-halogen
light bulbs are just like the sun, just because their (inner) bulb is 
UV transmitting (for UVA and UVB).  Again, the effective
blackbody temperature is about half.   The resulting spectrum
shift deprives the emission of UV and enriches (relatively) the
infra-red, which is why the actors feel such heat if there is
no infra-red filter -- much hotter than they would feel with
equal brightness of illumination from the sun.  

Oren Haber-Schaim                           (habersch@husc.harvard.edu)  
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.bio
From: mscrap@halcyon.com (Marta Lyall)
Subject: Request of Med Images
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Distribution: USA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 01:21:28 GMT

Posting for a friend - please do not reply to this newsgroup. 
Reply to Pam Gray at: Videodiscovery - 1-800-548-3472


Videodiscovery is producing an anatomy and physiology interactive videodisc
for high school and college students,and we are looking for medical images.

The images we need should help students understand their own bodies. They
could be specimen shots, clinical shots, close ups, x rays, high tech
images, photomicrographs, SEMs, or whatever would illustrate the conditions
best. Comparison shots would be great ( normal/ abnormal, sets of symptoms
and their causes, etc.) Since the images will appear on a video monitor we
need to start with original, or first generation duplicates of, horizontal
format 35mm transparencies. SEMs, and TEMs could be prints or negatives.
There should be some margin at top and bottom and especially on the sides
to accommodate several generations of media transfers.

We need:

Steroids; drug, pill, or injection      Atrophied muscle
Marfan syndrome                         Muscular dystrophy
Cyanotic skin                           Paralysis
Jaundice                                Polio
Callus                                  Hydrocephalus
Nail mottling                           EEG set up
Ingrown nail                            EEG tracings
Corn (on foot)                          General anesthesia
German measles                          Cataract; before & after 
Burns, 1st,2nd,3rd degree, & sun             surgery
Bed sore                                Cochlear implant
Fracture                                Pituitary dwarfism
Lordosis (swayback)                     Cushing's syndrome, face
Spina bifida                            Cushing's syndrome, abdomen
Kyphosis (hunchback)                    Infected cut
Knock knees                             Pacemaker, artificial
Bow legs                                ECGs,various
Flat feet                               Artificial heart
Clawfoot                                Mucous membrane
Bunion                                  Heart-lung machine
Swollen knee                            Pus
Dislocated knee                         Vaccination
Arthritis                               AIDS patient
Mumps                                   Allergic reactions
Anorexia nervosa                        Emphysema, barrel chest
Colostomy                               Cystic fibrosis
Obesity                                 Arterial blood gases 
Hemodialysis                                 measuring
Urinalysis                              Genotype/phenotype
Autosomal defects                       Down sydrome

Any help you can give us in collecting these images would be greatly
appreciated. We can pay a nominal price per image, or exchange resources.
We need to get everything here before December 30, and can return them in
February. Thank you very much.


Reply to Pam Gray at:

Videodiscovery, Inc.        1700 Westlake Ave. North  #600
1-800-548-3472              Seattle, Washington  98109-3026
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: New Migraine Drug???
Date: 23 Dec 92 16:49:34 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Dec14.170652.28098@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin) writes:

>been on the DHE inhalers, but several months ago, Montefiore's Headache Clinic
>in N.Y.C. put her on the DHE ampules/self-injections.  Any experiences with
>those??

They work but cause more nausea than the nasal spray.  The nasal spray
is *not* an inhaler.  The drug is absorbed through the nasal mucosa,
not the lungs.

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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: bhjelle@carina.unm.edu ()
Subject: Re: Adiposity 101
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 01:16:48 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <17939@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>In article <1992Dec23.105556.8340@omen.UUCP> caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg) writes:
>
>>Steve, you (and others) seem convinced I am excluding relevant,
>>high quality obesity research from Adiposity 101 that doesn't
>>"tell me what I want to hear".  Could you be specific?  Please
>>discuss specific papers, we've had enough vague generalizations.
>
>Every time I mention one you say "oh, I knew about it, but
>it is pure crap" or something like that.  I'm sure you do
>know about them.  You just find any paper you don't agree
>with to be crap.
>-- 
With that lead-in, I can't resist being the first to mention
the article in the latest New England Journal that shows that
obese people who profess to be eating <1200 Cal/day diets
in fact eat far more than they report, enough to account
for their inability to lose weight. They also exercise some
50% less than reported.

Chuck, would you like to declare this article flawed now, or
read it first?  :-)

Brian
From: mmm@cup.portal.com (Mark Robert Thorson)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Nicotine Withdrawal Help Needed
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 23:55:51 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

> I receive less nicotine from my current levels of smoking than are provided
> in the lowest dosage nicotine patch.

Are you not using the patch for this reason?  You can cut the patch dosage
in half by taking a scissors and cutting the patch in half.  Just use half
of it at a time (or whatever you feel the correct dosage is).
From: turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Immunotherapy
Date: 22 Dec 1992 13:02:39 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu
Summary: WRree-WRee-WRee-Wre...

-*---
ee-WRree-WRee-WRee-WRe...  

Sorry for the noise; let me turn the bullshit detector off.

In article <1992Dec21.210514.5616@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
> I have some information about two different methods of 
> immunotherapy. Both of these are considered highly
> "alternative". That is, they are not in any way approved
> by the FDA, ...

More likely, it means there is no evidence that they do any
good.

> Be that as it may, they have saved many, many lives. ...

The last time we went down this road, Robert Greenstein showed 
that he doesn't know evidence from shinola.  Since this is 
sci.med, rather than the alternative medicine newsgroup which
is now available, I will call Robert Greenstein on this and 
ask him what evidence he has that these therapies have saved
any lives.  (And yes, I have reset my bullshit detector, and
every time I see this kind of stuff in sci.med, I will ask
the poster the same question.)

Russell
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: bible@iastate.edu (Anthony E Bible)
Subject: Re: Nicotine Withdrawal Help Needed
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:15:26 GMT

In article <8283@news.duke.edu> das@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
>
>1)  Is there a Smoke-Ender's type support group on the Net?
>
>2)  What are your worst horror stories about what smoking does to a persons
>    lungs, general health, etc.  Can anybody out there SCARE me into
>    quitting?
>


	My father was a heavy smoker for most of his life.  Even when he was
lying in bed dying of lung cancer he said he would smoke a cigarette right
then if he could.  It wouldn't have mattered, but there was no smoking allowed
around the oxygen tanks because of the fire hazard, and he *really* needed the
oxygen.
	I don't know the details of how lung cancer kills you, but one of the
effects in my father's case was fluid build-up in the chest cavity.  Every few
hours the doctor (maybe the nurse, I don't recall) would have to come in and
draw off about a liter or so of pink-ish liquid.  The Old Man would be pretty
uncomfortable just prior to this procedure.  He'd gasp like the wind had been
knocked out him, trying to get his breath, but I guess his lungs could not
expand against the pressure of the liquid.  It was kind of like watching
someone drown over a period of hours.  The doctors finally did some procedure
that arrested the fluid build-up, but a month later -- doped up, but still in
continuous agony -- he died.  The Old Man was kind of a John Wayne type, and it
was amazing to me how quickly he wasted away.  As an aside, I have to say I
think of this period when I hear the discussions about Dr. Kavorkian and his
machine.

	So, if you are looking for an image to concentrate on, try imagining
you are slowly drowning in your own juices.  If you've ever had the wind
knocked out of you that is probably the right feeling.
	I'd also suggest, however, that you spend some time thinking about
(imagining) your lungs recovering and becoming more healthy each moment you are
not smoking.  A little positive imagery cannot hurt, and -- my opinion -- is
better than the negative thoughts.  Of course, one of the benefits of thinking
about these things is that it keeps you from thinking about the things you like
about smoking.

	For what it's worth, I smoked for nearly 20 years.  Got up to a pack 
and a half a day, more when I went out the "the boys".  During that time I quit
smoking at least a dozen times.  Finally succeeded.  It ain't easy, but I
highly recommend it.  Whatever works, do it.

Good luck,
tony
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: mrl@nerus.pfc.mit.edu
Subject: Injections of a tender point with anesthetic.
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:14:49 GMT

My mother had back surgery to relieve pressure on nerves.  It worked, but soon
after she developed a very painful area in one of the muscles in her back.  The
doctors are not sure, but believe it to be either fibrotitis or an irritated
nerve.  The only treatment that she found helped once was by a therapist who
injected an anesthetic into the area before she manipulated her.  However, that
therapist was in a different state, and show has not found one in her area that 
does that sort of treatment.  I have heard that sometimes such injections into
tender points will help for a long period.  Anyone know of such treatment? 
Any reason why she is having a hard time finding people that do that?

She might have fibromyalgia like myself.  I asked her to ask her doctors to
prescribe Elival, but again she has met resistance by her doctors.  They all
say they use different anti-depressents.  Dr. Nye has mentioned that he has
found that Elival is the most useful anti-depressent for fibromyalgia.  If so,
why do doctors use other types (especially when it is the cheapest?) 
Ironically, the therapist that treated her with the injection was the only one
that said she used Elival.

Finally, has anyone found significant relief from back pain from acupuncture?

Mark London
MRL@NERUS.PFC.MIT.EDU
From: mrl@nerus.pfc.mit.edu
Subject: Generic drug store brands.
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:31:35 GMT

Is it worth the money to pay for brand name drugs such as Tylenol versus drug
store brands?  Am I simply paying for the name?  I notice a difference in the
non-active ingredients.  Are they significant?

Mark London
MRL@NERUS.PFC.MIT.EDU
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Adiposity 101
Date: 28 Dec 92 00:53:07 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <1992Dec18.032726.3309@omen.UUCP> caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg) writes:
>Jim and I were heavy from an early age.  Al was normal until
>puberty.  During high school none of us were morbidly obese,
>not be a long shot.  What we had was more like "middle age
>spread", without the gray hair.  I was 210 pounds when I was 15.
>Jim and I are at least twice as fat after multiple diet cycling.
>Diet cycling has not been as fattening for Al; this is
>consistent with the medical literature that notes those with
>childhood onset obesity are most susceptible to diet cycling.

Well, if we are going to use the personal data, let us see what
kinds of cycles we are dealing with.  Keith gave his data, I
gave mine.  I was also 210 lbs at age 15 and 335 at age 25.
So when you cycled the deepest, what kind of weight loss are
we talking about?  Was it over 100 lbs?  Or are we talking about
25 lb cycles?  Did you ever go from being morbidly obese (let's
say > 300 lbs) to under 200 lbs?  How long did your longest
continual diet last?

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From: lewis@nic.cerf.net (Lewis Jr. High)
Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.misc,sci
Subject: Trivia Question...
Date: 2 Jan 1993 02:32:43 GMT
Organization: Lewis Jr. High/San Diego City Schools
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.cerf.net

I apologize if this question seems inappropriate for this newsgroup, but I
couldn't find any others that seemed more appropriate.

I have a trivia question that I am trying to find an answer for, and I
would appreciate your help.  

Why is it impossible for a person to sneeze with their eyes open?

If you know, please respond to my personal e-mail address,
jmealif@eis.calstate.edu.  Thanks for your assistance.

Jeff Mealiffe
Technology Consultant
Lewis Jr. High/San Diego City Schools

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From: mike@ontek.com (Michael Charnow)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: prostate problem
Date: 27 Dec 92 19:35:07 GMT
Organization: Ontek Corporation -- Laguna Hills, California

I am having what appears to be a prostate infection.  I am
sensitive in the groin area.  It hurts sometimes when I urinate.  A
few years back I had a similar problem which the Dr. said was a
prostate in fection.  He prescibed an antibiotic and the problem
went away.

The question is,  The problem has reocurred a few time since and
again recently.  I can get rid of the problem using cranberry juice
and herbs instead of the antibiotics.  

What can be causing the problem and why does it keep coming back.

Can any of the following have an affect:
	1.	I had a vasectomy about 7 years ago.
	2.	Stress like that which may cause an ulcer.  I have been old I
had a very small ulcer that should be cleared up.  But can excess
acid in the system or anything of that nature.
	3.	Sexual activities; masturbation, lack of sex, excess sex.

Any word of wizdom would be useful.

Thanks you.