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From: machman@milton.u.washington.edu (The Machman)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: microbreweries & brewpubs in Seattle?
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:24:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.machman.718568683
Organization: University of Washington

homebrew@lupulus.ssc.gov writes:

>I'll be in Seattle Oct 13-18 for the ToolBook Developers Conference.  Are
>there any good brewpubs or microbreweries in the area?

But of course.

Breweries:

  Hales Ales Ltd.
  111 Central Way, Kirkland, 827-4400

  Kemper Brewing Company
  22381 Foss Rd NE, Poulsbo, 697-1446

  Maritime Pacific Brewing Co.
  1514 NW Leary Way (Ballard), 782-6181

  Pike Place Brewery
  1432 Western Ave (Pike Place Market), 622-3373

  Rainier Brewing Co.
  (a fresh Rainier is better than no beer)
  3100 Airport Way S, 622-2600

  Redhook Brewing Co.
  3400 Phinney Ave N (Fremont), 548-8000

Brewpubs:

  Big Time Brewery & Alehouse
  4133 University Way NE (University District), 545-4509

  Kirkland Roaster & Ale House
  (Hales Ales Ltd.)
  111 Central Way, Kirkland, 827-4400

  Pacific Northwest Brewing Co.
  322 Occidental St (Pioneer Square), 621-7002

  Trolleyman Tavern
  (Redhook Brewing Co.)
  3400 Phinney Ave N (Fremont) , 548-8000


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Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
From: ulick@angelico.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford)
Subject: Trappist Ale
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:54:13 GMT

I bottled a trappist ale last night after less than 2 weeks.  Its fermentation
was deader than the dodo and it was clearing fast.  I bottled it after a 
good shake.  I wanted lots of sediment.  The attenuation was amazing.  My
OG was 1076 and I bottled just under 1010.  The yeast was cultered from
Chimay Red ages ago.  I had stored the starter in a fridge before reviving it
for the batch.  I used 12 ib of malt, a mixture of Briess 2 row, Briess
6 row Vienna, and an imported German Muenchener, mashing au Miller, with
nothing like the same extract ratio.  I added about 1 lb of brown sugar.
It was hopped with 2oz of Fuggles and 1oz of Hallertauer.

It tastes stongly of hops at present, is dry and estery, although the 
banana is not as strong as it was in the primary when I racked to the
secondary.  It'll take some aging to reach its prime.  I calculated 
alcohol at 8.6% by volume.


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+    born in the holy land of Indiana,      + Dept of Chemical Engineering, +
+ in the mystical hills east of Fort Wayne'.+ Notre Dame, IN 46556          +
+      B'fhearr liom bheith ag eitilt.      +    ulick@bach.helios.nd.edu   +
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Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
From: fortner@hal.eel.ufl.edu (Dave Fortner)
Subject: Sanatizing Brewing Equipment
Originator: fortner@hal.eel.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 20:21:02 GMT

I have recently taken up home brewing and I have a question.

I am tired of my hands smelling like bleach. I know that the
FDA has approved irradiation of food to kill bacteria. Heres
my question, can I use the microwave oven to irradiate my
brewing equipment? I suspect that the wavelength of the
microwave is to long to kill the bacteria, does anyone
know? Has anyone tryed it? I was thinking of culturing
some yeast, zapping it in the microwave and pitching it in to
a small amount of my next wort in a seperate fermenter,
if the wort didn't ferment I would assume that it was because
I successfully killed the yeast with the microwaves. Does
anyone have any thoughts on this?

Dave Fortner
Fortner-D@3mail.ksc.nasa.gov

Usual Disclaimers Apply
From: dinkel@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Kent Dinkel)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:47:02 GMT
Subject: Re: dried extract versus syrup
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing

In rec.crafts.brewing, peterm@dtc.hp.com (Sweet Pete) writes:

> Now that I'm moving away from kits and towards using malt extract with my
> own hops I have some questions regarding which, if either, is "better" to
> use: dried extract or syrup.  I notice that brew supply shops tend to stock
> much more of the syrup variety, frequently in bulk in 44 gal drums.  Is
> there any reason for using dried over syrup?

There are pro's and cons to each.  I use dried malt extract for yeast
starter since it's easier to use a small amount and store the rest.
However, I try to stick to the syrup for the wort since the DME is a real
mess (for me) to work with in larger quantities.  This does restrict me to
recipes that call for malt extract in even multiples of 3.5 lbs if I ONLY
want to use the syrup.

I've found putting the can of extract in warm water for ~ 10 minutes makes
it pretty easy to pour out of the can.

Kent
From: donham@dbldog.enet.dec.com (Perry Donham)
Subject: Re: AHA Policy on Product Reviews
Reply-To: donham@super.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Education/Training
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 16:07:19 GMT


stevens@stsci.edu writes:


>Well, sorry to be long-winded. But Jack's description of the AHA's policy
>reviews---"idiotic" is right on the money. Not putting in such basic
>information is an unprofessional practice, it is discourteous to the reader, 
>and frankly, I can't think of a better adjective for it than Jack's...
>"idiotic." I can think of *NO* justifiable reason for omitting the info,
>and lots of reasons to include it, but then the AHA isn't going to change
>policies unless enough of us complain, so let's get busy folks and help
>ourselves out!

I used to run a small (60,000) circulation electronics magazine. We did both
reviews and new products each month, for two reasons:

	o Our readers indicated that reviews and new products were their
          favorite feature behind "Letters to the Editor"

	o We made big bucks selling ads to the maker of the reviewed
          products

I can see the Zymurgy ad director calling up a manufacturer with the good news
that their product is scheduled for a review in the next issue...and oh, by the
way, the only way the reader can get in touch with you is through an ad, which
happens to be at a discount for this issue only...

BTW, our reviews had the 'vital' information at the top of the article, in a
box.

Regards,

Perry Donham
VMS Course Development
From: bickham@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Scott Bickham,C17 Clark Hall,56079,2737038)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: Repost: GABF results
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:01:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: msc.1992Oct9.160123.15596
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Originator: bickham@msc2.msc.cornell.edu

From article <1992Oct9.152727.28254@col.hp.com>, by rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern):
> gummitch@techbook.com (Jeff Frane) writes:
>> 
>> their beer's merits.  As I recall from a conversation with Fred
>> Eckhardt, who has served on the judging panels over several years, they
>> are *required* to hand out a full array of awards, even if they don't
>> feel the beers are really worthy of recognition.  If there are only Gold
>> & Silver medals in a category, it's because only 2 beers were entered!
> 
> Also, look at last years winners of Classic Pale Ale (3 medals - none of
> them for SNPA).  This year the only medal was a gold for SNPA.  Are we
> supposed to believe that the winners from last year didn't even enter
> this year??  Are we to believe that only 1 beer was entered in the Classic
> Pale Ale catagory, which has to be one of the most popular and common
> styles at the GABF?  On the other hand, I find it hard to believe that
> last years 3 medal winners weren't even good enough for the judges to
> give them any medal. 
> 

I noticed this also.  I would have expected Anchor Liberty Ale to make
a strong showing, as well as Geary's Pale Ale and some other award
winners from the past few years.  So my feeling is to not to take these
lists too seriously, since we know that all possible entries were not
entered in the competetion.

Scott
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
From: joseph@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us (Joseph Nathan Hall)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
Subject: Re: Stoudt's
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 22:34:36 EDT
Organization: 5 Sigma Software
Reply-To: joseph@joebloe.maple-shade.nj.us
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v5


In article <1992Oct9.143204.11401@walter.cray.com> (rec.crafts.brewing), jeb@cray.com (John Bergquist) writes:
) In article <1992Oct7.205530.912@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> John B. Carr,
) jbc4m@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU writes:
) >	Unfortunately the only Stoudt's that I have been able to get
) >in C'ville, VA, have been in 750ml bottles and spoiled past the
) >point of drinkability.  Has anyone else had problems with bad
) >Stoudt's ?
) 
) Yes!  Just last week, I was excited to find several brews from Stoudt's
) (including the two gold medal winners mentioned) on the specialty-beer
) shelf of my local liquor store.  Unfortunately, all the 750 ml, _green_,
) bottles I've opened so far have been skunky, and the Fest beer was
) vinegary.  The spoilage probably happened somewhere between the brewery
) and my local store, but why do many brewers of quality products keep
) using green bottles?  I have yet to find a bottle of non-skunky Pilsner
) Urquell in the U.S.

As I said in a recent posting to alt.beer, I have had several bottles
of Stoudt "Doppelbock," Stoudt Holiday Ale and Stoudt Stout.  The
Doppelbock was perhaps the hoppiest beer I have ever consumed--Sam
Adams Stock and Sam Smith's Old Brewery Ale pale by comparison--and
had no malt character to speak of.  It wasn't an awful IPA, but it WAS a
lousy Doppelbock.  The Holiday Ale was of unremarkable brewpub quality
and had some strange congealed scrudge in the bottom of the bottle
that looked like it belonged in a bottle of Corzendonk.  The Stout
was clean and generally OK, but a little disembodied (read "watery")
for my tastes.

All of my bottles were obtained from the fridge at Stoudt in Adamstown,
so I am reasonably confident that the beers I ingested were ruined
by the brewery, without the aid of truckers or bars/liquor/grocery stores.

As for PU, I bought a six at State Line Liquors (1 mile west from
the I-95 Elkton exit at the MD/DE border) a while back.  It was fabulous.
The beers at State Line tend to be a little old (I've had little luck
culturing from dregs of Belgian beers bought there) but I've not had
one that was skunked.

uunet!joebloe!joseph   (609) 273-8200 day   joseph%joebloe@uunet.uu.net
2102 Ryan's Run East        Rt 38 & 41             Maple Shade NJ 08052
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Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
From: billb@owlnet.rice.edu (William Stenson Blackwell)
Subject: Interesting Newbie Seeks Advice
Summary: U.S Government is anal retentive
Keywords: Suggestions?
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:17:07 GMT

I'm a student at Rice University in Houston, TX.  Being
a good and loyal college student, I drink copious quantities
of beer.  However, the federal government, in it's infinite
wisdom, has passed a law that has severely curtiled the
availibility of alcohol on campus, thus driving everyone away.
(yeah, increasing the DWI/DUI rate to boot.)  Anyway, my
college's (essentially a combo frat/sorority) social committee
is now prevented from using University collected dues to pay
for alcohol.  However, they haven't prevented us from buying
hops, yeast, etc.  Hence, my post.

We need advice on what would be the best way of going about
making sufficient amounts of beer to cover our social commitments
without spending more than we would have on "normal" beer, i.e. 
around $2500/yr.  We generally need 2 kegs bi-weekly, with the ability
to produce about 8-12 kegs twice a year (we throw 1 huge party a semester).
Space isn't a concern, as we will be designating approximately 300
square feet of our basement to the endeavor.  The key to this is to make
a flavorful lager/pilsener that is *HARD* to screw up.

Suggestions?


-- 
Bill Blackwell             P H P <==me!   "A just request is to be met
billb@owlnet.rice.edu     F L L F       in silence, by the act."
Houston, Texas, USA          8       -Dante Alighieri "Inferno" XXIV ln.77-78
"My opinions are mine, no one else is that stupid"
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.brewing
From: euafri@eua.ericsson.se (Fredrik stman)
Subject: Re: Suggestions for correcting the balance
Reply-To: euafri@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:47:57 GMT

Marilee Marshall writes:

>The front wants to work it's
>way up (taking up the slack from the blouson bottom), making the
>back of the neck slide backward.

Balance. The back is too short and the front too long w.r.t armhole and
neckline. Move the pads forward and possibly set the arms at another
position. If you're lucky you can add to the back of the neck, too.

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From: ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker) 
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: Washing Dirty Wool fo
Date: 11 Oct 92 13:38:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Transfer Station BBS, Danville, CA - 510-837-4610/837-5591
Reply-To: ron.parker@uttsbbs.uucp (Ron Parker) 

           on 2 Oct 92  sbowen@gmuvax.gmu.edu wrote:    
  
S  > and, after hearing how willingly it felts, I was very careful of water   
S  > temperature. But after seeing no appreciable difference in warm vs hot
S  > wash water and hearing Victoria's comment, I am inclined to try hot
S  > water, too.

It's not the temperature of the water that matters, it's any rapid
*change* in temperature that will cause more or less felting.

ron.parker%uttsbbs%boo@pacbell.com
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From: michelle@play.esd.sgi.com (Michelle Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: coat making:  any advice?
Date: 10 Oct 92 00:25:29 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <38530015@hpsad.sad.hp.com>, sam@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Vicky Hansen) writes:
|> In rec.crafts.textiles, svr@gumbee.mlb.semi.harris.com (Susan Richmond) writes:
|> 
|>       I am also interested in making a coat...a heavy one...  I am from 
|>       
 [stuff deleted]
|>       I am looking at wool or a nice, short napped synthetic fur..
                                                      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Would fake fur be warm?  I would think that you'd need a really
good lining to keep out the wind.

michelle
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: mahe@otto.ycc.yale.edu (Marie-Christine Mahe)
Subject: Re:  curling jersey
Organization: Cornell University, Ithaca NY
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:08:46 GMT


Carrie's cut t-shirt has a hem that keeps curling up.  That is not
too surprising, in that the nature of jersey is to roll, and to
roll to the wrong side at that.  The solution is to use a double
needle for making the hem.  If you don't want to take out the
current stitching line, you can add another next to it, but
it won't work as well (or probably look as good, alas) as
a double-needle hem. 
How it works is that the needles have a single shaft that you
put into your machine as a regular one.  You use 2 spools (I often
make an extra bobbin so the thread is the same), and thread each
(one after the other, to avoid tangles) along the same usual
path, diverging only at the end to thread each needles separately.
As you sew with a regular straight stitch, each needle on top
will produce a beautiful, perfectly parallel set of stitches.
The single bobbin thread however will zigzag from one side to the other,
and it's precisely that zigzag that'll give the whole thing a
bit of stretch, making it perfect for stretchy knits.
If the top tension is rather loose, the bobbin thread will bring
the top lines of stitching closer together, forming a little
ridge that's rather attractive (IMHO) and that helps keep
unruly edges from curling.
Most fabric stores carry double needles these days, I use a
70 (10?) on wool jersey and all my hems are pefectly well-behaved.

Marie-Christine
mahe-marie-christine@yale.edu

Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: holbrook@apollo.HP.COM (Alan R. Holbrook)
Subject: Counted CrossStitch Aircraft
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:31:03 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA
Keywords: cross stitch warplanes
Followup-To: rec.crafts.textiles


Some time ago, I don't recall exactly when (gotta stop cooking with those
aluminum sauce pans...), someone posted to this group looking for x-stitch
patterns for combat aircraft.  I just received a catalog from The Stitchery
that has 6 such kits.  They are

			the P-38 Lightning
			the F-16 Fighting Falcon
			the P-40 Warhawk
			the P-51 Mustang
			the F-14 Tomcat
			the F-64 Hellcat.

The catalog is the 'Holiday 1992' edition.  The mailing address is

			The Stitchery
			Department 213-1
			120 North Meadows Road
			Medfield, MA 02052

Alan Holbrook
holbrook@apollo.hp.com
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Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: lisa@icase.icase.edu
Subject: The Mid-Atlantic Quilt Festival
Organization: Cornell University, Ithaca NY
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:04:18 GMT


The mid-atlantic quilt festival will be in Williamsburg, VA Feb 25-28th.

The competition is different that most I have seen - they have only
2 categories - traditional and innovative.  They aren't separating
hand and machine quilting!  

It looks to be a great show - if you would like more information send
a self-addressed stamped envelope (with $.52 postage) to:
(#10 envelop)

       M-A.Q.F. IV
       c/o David M. & Peter J. Mancuso, Inc.
       Professional Show Management
       P.O. Box 667
       New Hope, PA 18938 USA


---lisa leutenegger
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: 6623630@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: SERGER RECOMMENDATION
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 16:54:32 GMT

Has anyone ever used a White Serger 734DW.  I'm thinking about
buying one and was wondering if anyone had any opinions on it.

Thanks.
From: by199@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Teri Flora)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: (no subject given)
Date: 10 Oct 1992 05:42:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu

Subject~|: CROSS STITCH STORES
Reply-To: by199@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Teri Flora)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)

DOES ANYONE KNOW OF ANY CRAFT STORES IN OR AROUND THE BOSTON AREA?
I HAVEN'T REALLY BEEN LOOKING, BUT WHEN I DO, I CAN'T FIND ANYTHING.


THANKS IN ADVANCE,

     TERI








Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: marcia@virga.ucar.edu (Marcia Politovich)
Subject: Re: Smocking Assistance?
Organization: Research Applications Program/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:48:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.204647.12712@netcom.com> shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller) writes:
>
(introductory comments deleted for space...)>
>What she is looking for is something she described as a gadget that
>automatically gathers and sews.  So, instead of having to mark the
>fabric carefully, then take needle and thread and pick up each of the
>little marks exactly, this tool will do those things for you.
>
(some things deleted - the final question:)
>Does anyone know what I'm trying to describe here?  Can you give
>me a better description, and maybe even a pointer towards where I
>could purchase one?

I've done some smocking, but all by hand. So I understand why
you're looking for such a device!!
There are smockers which are roller devices with ridges - they pleat
the fabric as it rolls through. There are a number of needles on 
the device which, when threaded, sew through the fabric to maintain
the pleats. You pull on the threads to control the tightness of 
the pleating. Actually I did finally get to use one of these
once, a lady in the fiber arts group where I used to live had
one and we all tried it out one evening. Boy, what a great invention!
These I have seen in various needle arts/sewing
catalogs, they run rather high (around or over $100). For 
sources, I believe there is a FAQ associated with this newsgroup
that lists these places.  
There have been some articles on smocking in Threads magazine 
during the past few years - one was called "what is this thing
called pleater?" (kinda cute, eh?) which described some interesting
things you could do with one of these devices. 
Anyway, I have not heard of an attachment for a sewing machine
that does this. There are attachments for gathering, pleating, etc..
but those that I am familiar with really wouldn't do for the type
of pleats you need for smocking. 
>
Hope this helps   -- mkp>
From: sam@hpsad.sad.hp.com (Vicky Hansen)
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
Subject: Re: Re: coat making:  any advice?
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:07:54 GMT
Organization: HP Signal Analysis Division - Rohnert Park, CA

In rec.crafts.textiles, HF.MMX@forsythe.stanford.edu (Marilee Marshall) writes:
    Boy do I ever agree with you on New York Fabric's remodeling... I
    not only can't find a thing, but I WILL NOT TOLerate standing in
    lines waiting for the 2 cutters to help you.  Waited there for 20
    minutes to get 1/2 yard of calico, THENNNNNNNNN waited 30 minutes in
    their damn check-out line (and I was the 3rd person in line)!!!!!!
    I don't need their brand of service anymore!!!  They kept blaming it
    on the sale, claiming they didn't even know it was happening until
    it hit the newspapers.  I call that bad business.

The last few times I have been to that store (the Santa Rosa branch -- only
because noone else had what I wanted) the service has been as you describe
even without a sale (unkown or otherwise).  They seem to have people wandering
around but even if you get someone to "help" you, they are running at about
a third the speed expected at other stores.  Anyone who wants to open a
Beverly Fabrics in Sonoma county can count on at least one customer.
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles
From: lenox@cs.washington.edu (Amy Lenox)
Subject: was felting mentioned on the possible intro note?
Summary: a conversation I had reminded me of felting...
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 04:00:20 GMT

Although I don't know if felting should be on the same list
as knitting (one wouldn't want to give one's project any
bad ideas)...

I tend to knit socks on the bus now because I find them 
so very portable... this morning (while knitting) I ran 
into a friend who is really an artist who I last knew 
was interested in strange dyeing techniques (I don't know 
anything about dyeing).  But to my suprise I found out 
she had choosen felting as her main medium and we discussed 
felting for a few minutes before she remarked that I was 
remarkably knowledgable about felting for an ordinary 
person and she did seem suprised about this.  I had to 
point out to her that knitting with wool has brought
felting to my attention and although I am relatively
new to knitting, my SO has had quite a bit of experience 
felting socks and sweaters and what have you...  It
can really make one cringe when seeing a knitted sweater
unintentionally felted.  He says it doesn't happen very
often but seeing some socks and a sweater die in his
care made quite an impression on me.  (Felt resistant
wool for him!)

-- 

The cat is very fond of using the keyboard when I'm typing...