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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Anjani's Art/Literature
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>I was going to ask if your momma sent you to Sunday school.  Then I realized
>she probably did, only it was the wrong kind of Sunday School.:-)  The
>connection's pretty obvious, actually, if one has the proper background.
>In those days, bread literally was the staple food for that region.  So,
>someone asking for his/her "daily bread" was literally asking for
>food to eat the next day.  I don't know where the word staff comes from in
>this context, but it's a well-known metaphor.:-/

>Is that any better?

        Nope.  I know all that.  My point is that bread is the staff of life
        whether you're thinking of the Lord's Prayer or the ha'motze or 'Good
        bread/good meat/good God/let's eat.'  The SOL is by no means specific
        to (or specifically referred to in those words) in the Lord's Prayer.

        Had the question been simply "What is the 'staff of life'?"  I would
        have known the answer right away -- it's the reference to the LP that
        threw me.

        I like my bread in liquid form, too.

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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Nuclear
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:  This is a recurring topic in language groups on the net. The phenomenon
:is known as "the intrusive r" (or something similar) and is found in English
:varieties of English. There was once an article in which it was pointed out
:that you find it in Bostonian English, where "law and order" becomes
:"lawr and ordah".

Indeed; you'll find it in our (non-existent) gopher archive under
the keyword "Lauren D'Ordre"

G
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Subject:      Re: Elvis laughing
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   >Of course he has.  That's why he still lives!

  I'm sorry to be the one to tell you this, but he's dead as a doornail.
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
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> "What seventeenth-century explorer was buried with a pipe and a box of
> tobacco?"
>
A pipe and a box of tobacco...I *think* that was Sir Walter Raleigh.
ndh
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The dictionary definition referring to 'move lightly, to and fro' 
seems related to my recollection of the word as we used it a long time
ago: one might use the word now to refer to 'New Age' music, for 
example, or as an almost-synonym for 'flaky' or 'space cadet.'

--bayla
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Subject:      RE: WORDS-L TP: Mka's History Question

>>Subj:  History, please
>
>"What was the largest passenger liner ever built?"

Why, the Queen Elizabeth, of course--*not the QE2--the original, which burned in
Hong Kong 20 odd years ago, I believe.

I guess that leaves entertainment, huh.

-K

-Mka
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@CS.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: First major problem in London
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> >How will you find Edinburg?  (There's not an h at the end of
> >Edinburg, TX, is there?
> No, and there isn't one in Edinburg, MO, either. I wonder why....

I bet it's something I'm supposed to know -- probably related to the
place-naming conventions among the Anglo-Saxons and Vikings that were
later adapted in various ways elsewhere.  For some reason I always fall
asleep when reading that section in the HOTEL book.

Speaking of books, I found out today that my students in Sociolinguistics
will all have the 2nd edition of a book I have only the 1st edition of.
That's gonna be fun.

  -- Natalie (maynor@CS.msstate.edu)
     borrowing Bernard's account until Ra is up again
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: John's Art/Literature Question

I KNOW THIS ONE! I KNOW THIS ONE!  "1984"!!!!!!  Gimme a "G" whilst I go
fan my fevered brow...

John with the leaky roof in soggy Arizona...and only 750 msgs behind...
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On Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:20:36 GMT Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG> wrote

>>You mean people keep track of all the weird things I ftp???  Feels like big

>        DON'T PANIC.  I just look at number of downloads per file and
>per directory.  No names.  No addresses.

Do you mean you just keep track of how often each file is downloaded to
sort of see if it is time to take it out of the ftp space?   I'm really
curious to know why you keep stats.  And do you do anything with the address
I send as my password?  Is that just for the security types (are you one?)
who need to know who got in to the system in case something goes wrong on
the machine?

Betty (ftp'er) Zaleski
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Oh yeah Glasgow
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> dream of getting a job in the factory and Edinburghians dream of
> the Return of the King.  A friend of mine form Edinburghs suburbs

Elvis sightings in Edinburgh?  That reminds me, is bagpipe music appropriate
at a croning?  If the croning is in Starkville, live bagpiping can easily be
arranged.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Bill Merrill <ST401601@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Nuclear
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>                         But I have never heard anyone mispronounce the
>     noun from which the adjective 'nuclear' is derived, nor another related
>     adjective.
>     Why don't the nucularists say 'nuculus' or 'nuculic acid'?

Sure, I've heard 'nuculus' plenty. As for nucleic acid, I doubt
that I could pronounce it correctly myself.

Speaking of nuclear, Chris and I watched a great doomsday movie
the other day, title something like "DEFCON-4" in which some
orbiting  astronauts launch the final nuculuh payload and then
have to crash land and take their chances among the survivors.
Not as fast-paced as the Road Warrior series, but equally as
chilling with the survival of the fittest theme.

Bill
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From:         Joan Boorstein <jboor@RA.CS.UMB.EDU>
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Originally forwarded to me by one of my UM/B colleagues --

>    From: darrell@cse.ucsc.edu
>    Newsgroups: comp.os.research,alt.internet.services
>    Date: 10 Jan 93 03:27:07 GMT
>    Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
>
>   Just as a point of interest: as of today, the Internet has at least
 1,291,918
>   reachable hosts (this does not count hosts hidden behind firewalls).
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From:         Evelyn <R3EJD@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU>
Subject:      Browns
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I wonder how many former Browns (those let go by Bill Belicheck or
Art Modell) are in the playoffs?

Evelyn
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        Giggles, Giggles...I thought we already went all over this one...

Anne, you were already over *both* of them...

G
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              11 Jan 1993 13:06:40 EST from <GE777009@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

I just hope he isn't an airhead when it comes time to perform surgery.

But, he is cute.

Evelyn
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Posted on 4 Jan 1993 at 18:31:47 by LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU

>>Here are snippets from two stories about Kali Gandaki River Gorge:
>>
>>>But she belonged here. She would have found a way to stick her feet into the
>>>backwater eddies of  Kali  Gandaki, a river that carves a  gorge  5 miles dee
>>>between the neighboring summits of Dhalagiri and Annapurna.
>>>
>>>   ... paper. Among them: the Thorong La, 17,771 feet, one of the highest
>>>trekkable passes; the 18,000-foot gash gouged by the  Kali  Gandaki River, th
>>>Earth's deepest declivity; and along the way, some of the world's greatest
>>>mountains -- Annapurna, Manaslu, Dhaulagiri -- each of them ...
>>
>>You want the cites, you find'em
>
>The first appears to be a quote from some fictional work; the second has a
>more scholarly ring to it.

And one quote has it five miles deep - the other somewhat under four.

Tony H.
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: WORDS-L TP: Mka's Geography Question

Kali Gandaki River Gorge is 18k feet deep two sources claim.

Literature please

-K

-Mka
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        Tate Gallery. GT remains behind to do <taxes>. I stay 4 hours. Can't

Well it was certainly something to do with <taxing>.

G
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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Famous Horses
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From: "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

> >Cisco Kid                       DIABLO
> >Pancho (Cisco Kid's sidekick)   LOBO
>
> Ray, are you *sure*? I always though I heard Pancho's horse
> called *Loco*.

I also.

Then of course there are Don Quixote and Sancho Panza. But
they didn't quite it to the old west, did they?

Pm
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..Surely it only shows contempt if the pitcher believes the batter to be...

The metaphor wasn't well fit. This does work for me. The character is
going to leave unseen or sucker this guy into starting a fight so he
can pound his face in. Same sort of egotistic `OK bumbler, hit me for
free then I'll deck you' feeling about it to me.

Don
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In a previous article, LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU () says:


>As guesses go that was certainly a wild one! 'Duo-' means 2 and 'decimal'
>means 10, so a more logical guess would have been 20.... but, in fact, it's
>12.... what 2 plus 10 equals. BTW 2 is the base of the binary system; 3 the

Weird.:-)  Why couldn't they just call it base 12 and be done with it?:-)
That's the name they taught us on this side of the Pond....  

-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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...and every one of the cards will end with, "P.S. - Please excuse the
shaky handwriting..."   ;->

JMW
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>I remember being embarrassed when crying during a "Dumbo" movie.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Really? I never get embarrassed about that. I still do it all the time.... the
last movie I cried in was "My Girl" which I watched two days ago.

The first thing my mother would ask me when I arrived home from the 'Satdy
Arvo pikchaz' was "How was the movie?".... my standard replies were "Wonderful!
I cried all the way through it." or "Terrible! It didn't make me cry at all."
Dumbo was a 'real tear-jerker', as well as me, Helen and Tony both cried the
first time they saw it. I had to stop Chris watching Lassie when he was about
6 because he used to get too upset. The only time I recall seeing Tim cry was
during a documentary when they showed scenes of baby seal hunters at work....
that particular scene didn't make me cry but it did make me physically sick.

Carolyn
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: First major problem in London
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>This is something else I should probably know, but how did the silent-h
>(the [g]) pronunciation get started in this country in the first place?
>Why wasn't the Scottish pronunciation of 'gh' brought here when the spelling
>was brought here?
>  -- Natalie (maynor@CS.msstate.edu)
>     borrowing Bernard's account until Ra is up again

        Maybe it was...

        Is it possible that transformations like (for example):

                Murfreesburgh --> Murfreesborough --> Murfreesboro

        could have taken place?  Yes, I know that 'borough' is a standard
        English usage -- the origin of places like Marlborough and Attleboro
        MA.  But the Southern Appalachians were settled by Scots and other
        Celtic sorts.

        BTW, Graham, I do know how to pronounce Edinburgh.  No pillock I.
        Were the Williams Pitt Scottish?  I've never heard any evidence that
        this town's name was ever pronounced differently (well, except when it
        was Fort Duquesne).

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From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Boston
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>> But I will post the recipe for the salmon pancakes, if anyone
>> wants it.
>
>Yes!
>  -- Natalie (maynor@CS.msstate.edu)

I was just waiting to hear that!

ANYTHING PANCAKES  (from Allan's mother)

Saute a small, peeled, chopped onion, in a very little butter
or margarine. Combine it in a blendor or food processor, or
use sharp knives, or whatever you need, with 2 raw eggs, a few
sprinklings of Lawry's seasoned salt, and a cup or two of what-
ever you have around...suggestions: a can or two of tuna; a
can or two of salmon; cooked vegetables; cottage cheese. Mush
it all around, then add a spoonful or two of matzo or cracker
meal (or bread crumbs). Fry by spoonfuls in shallow oil. Turn
when brown, brown second side. Drain on paper towels or a clean
brown-paper bag.

Nearly the same recipe makes Cream of Anything Soup. Omit the
eggs and meal. Add some chicken or other broth and some cream
or milk. Heat and serve.

love, judith
From: hamel@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Ray Hamel)
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From the Ray Hamel trivia archives:
COWBOYS AND THEIR HORSES

Wild Bill Hickok (tv)		BUCKSHOT
Tim McCoy			MIDNIGHT and STARLIGHT
Tom Tyler			ACE and BARON
Jimmy Wakely			SUNSET
Whip Wilson			SILVER BULLET
William S. Hart			FRITZ
Tom Mix				TONY and OLD BLUE
Buck Jones			SILVER
Tex Ritter			WHITE FLASH
Lash La Rue			RUSH
Hoot Gibson			GOLDIE
Johnny Mack Brown		REBEL
Bill Elliott			SONNY and THUNDER
Bob Steele			BROWNIE and RUSTY
Rex Allen			KO-KO
Dan Reid 			VICTOR
Josh Randall (tv)		RINGO
Jingle Jones (tv)		JOKER
Rowdy Yates (tv)		MIDNIGHT
Victoria Barkley (tv)		MISTY GIRL
Ken Maynard			TARZAN
Kermit Maynard			ROCKY
Bobby Benson			AMIGO
Little Beaver			PAPOOSE
Ben Cartwright (tv)		BUCK
Allan "Rocky" Lane		BLACKJACK
Lane Chandler			RAVEN
Don "Red" Barry			CYCLONE
Red Ryder			THUNDER
Rod Cameron			KNIGHT
Tim Holt			LIGHTNING
Jack Hoxie			SCOUT
Tom Keene			RUSTY
Bob Livingston			STARLIGHT
Cisco Kid			DIABLO
Pancho (Cisco Kid's sidekick)	LOBO
Fred Scott			WHITE KNIGHT
Charles Starrett		RAIDER

Ray Hamel
University of Wisconsin
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              "BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU" at Jan 4, 93 6:03 am

>   Speaking of birthdays, didn't Tushar turn 24 on 12/25?  Or was that
>   one of his jokes?

Think you're a day or two off, but he turned 23, I believe.

>   brad
-rashmi
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Subject:      bandwidth back to the trough...
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abh is home in one piece, but has wimped out of posting because she has to
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              9 Jan 1993 11:34:00 EST from <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>

>I trust that you have, or are planning to, reveal to your *seester*
>that, though unattainable, she is <worshipped from afar> by a person
>of good taste.
>--ggs

Yes, I told her that a distinguished North Carolignian professor who
signs himself =========================> <not to scale> had reacted most
favorably to her digitized image.

brad
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From:         Blue eyes cryin' in the rain <TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (74
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>Ruth gleans:

>   34)Mel Blanc [Adjani] - As she hasn't answered, I will.  He used to be
>   the voice behind many Saturday Morning Cartoon charecters, including Porky
>   Pig, Donald Duck, and Bugs Bunny.

        Mel didn't do Donald Duck -- that's a Disney character, and Mel worked
        his magic for Warner Bros.  Try Daffy Duck...and Yosemite Sam and Elmer
        Fudd and Sylvester and Tweetie and Pepe LePeux and Foghorn Leghorn and
        ...and...and...

>I don't think anyone actually answered the question which was asked:  who
>was the original voice of Mickey Mouse.  Someone said Mel Blanc, but it was
>actually Walt Disney...trivia buffs, set me right if I'm in error, but I
>recall hearing this fairly recently on some special.

        Sounds right to me.

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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 15:38:00 PST
From:         Emily Horning <IZZYOL9%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: The burning fiery furnace

> > > What's unusual about their being in the ceiling.  That's where they almost
> > > always are, isn't it?
> > Mine are on the wall, near the ceiling.
>
> Mine are in the ceiling itself, but I think I've seen them in the wall just
> below the ceiling also.  I can't ever remember seeing them any lower than
> that -- unless we go back to the old days of floor furnaces, of course.

In my parents' house, the vents are in the wall, but near the floor (the house
was built in 1939).

>   -- Natalie (maynor@CS.msstate.edu)

Emily