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From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Skywalker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys KILL Eagles
Date: 12 Jan 1993 19:14:30 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
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I stated earlier that people should win and lose with a little class
but sometimes ya just gotta say, what the F*ck.....


In article <C0r8ML.7ME@encore.com> kschnitz@encore.com (Kevin Schnitzius) writes:
 >rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K) writes:
 >>I didn't talk trash BEFORE the game like so many Philly fans did.  
 >
 >So, you do agree, then, that you are talking trash after the game?
 >Oh, my.  How very big of you...
 
Yo, If the team backs it up, it aint braggin....

 >>Did I talk any trash last week BEFORE the game??  No, I didn't.
 >
 >Looks to me like you have neither the intelligence nor the spine to 
 >support "your" team until they have actually won.  Pathetic, yes?
 
Pathetic...The Eagles, you want to start talking trash I give you 
a long course on TRASH TALKING 101, it's called not sticking your
foot in your mouth, but you wouldn't know about that. 

 >It truly amazes me that someone can actually whine *after* their
 >team has won.  Maybe you'd like to get your shovel out now and get
 >a head start on this weekends game....

Why's that ? you need a hole to crawl into with that pathetic team
of yours....

 >--
 >Kevin Schnitzius                        
 
 Eagles -- Not America's Team, 
 they're better than that. 

I don't think I've seen anything this year as pathetic as this quote,

"Better than that !"  ha ha, he he, woooo Nelly  


Go away, 
see ya, 
wouldn't wanta be ya........

DALLAS COWBOYS
NFC EAST CHAMPIONS 1992
get used to it !!!!!

tim
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: SF Bashing
Date: 5 Jan 1993 19:39:28 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
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Keywords: SF, Philadelphia, Dallas ...

In article <1icm7jINN8nt@spim.mti.sgi.com> anjaneya@m20_anjaneya.mti.sgi.com (Anjaneya Thakar) writes:
 
 >What is with these guys in Philadelphia and Dallas anyway? Once in the last
 >ten years their teams have a reasonable record and instead of enjoying the
 >good times they are spending all their steam trying to convince everyone why
 >the 49ers are not good!!!!!

 >For this one single reason I hope that the 49ers (or the 'Skins) kick thier
 >butts back to the very cellar they crawled out of! 

I didn't hear anyone ask for your opinion. 

 >A majority of commentrators, sports editors, coaches, players - and not just
 >the 49er fans - are saying that this is the team to beat. They can't all be
 >wrong. 49ers are GOOD!

 >No matter how you guys try to confuse issues - NFC East is strong, your teams
 >had injuries, 49ers had an easy schedule (NOT!!), Candlestick is not a good
 >place to play football etc. etc. - the bottom line is that the 49ers have a
 >solid team and a solid overall organization (maybe only the 'Skins have any
 >-thing similar). 

Candlestick IS NOT a good place tp play, a stupid city that builds a 
stadium three feet below sea level. It doesn't rain there for two years
yet, you always see mud flying up in the air when someone does a running
play, the stadium is a dump. Plus most GOOD teams have a city that
will build them their own arena and they dont have to share it with a 
bunch of over payed stickball players.

>49ers will  remain a strong contender for, at least, another 4-5 years and
>you guys will have to win here to get to the Super Bowl!!! So instead of bad-
>mouthing the 49ers go figure how you can beat them and, then, you may have
>earned the right to gloat.

Last time I looked the 9ers didn't even make the play-offs last season
so after you WIN a game this year then you can talk. Besides if the 
Redskins beat you Sat the Superbowl will go through Dallas, Philly or Wash.

 >What a goddamned bunch of cry-babies!!!!!!
 >
 >-anjaneya
 >

I put this guy up for
JERK OF THE YEAR !!!!!
tim
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:32:39 -0500 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: The Unofficial Final odds for my pool.:
	<C0oK6A.H55@news.cso.uiuc.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.football.pro: 11-Jan-93 The Unofficial
Final odds f.. The W. R. J. Boskey@uxa. (1136)

> San Francisco         7-5
> Dallas                3-1
> San Diego             6-1
> Miami                 7-1
> Washington           12-1
> Philadelphia         15-1
> Pittsburgh           19-1
> Buffalo              19-1

hahaha! What sucker is actually going to bet on SD, Washington, Philly
or Pitt now?!

:)

--Vernon.
From: pankaj@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Pankaj Shukla)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:44:38 GMT
Subject: WHAT A GAME!!!! (Bills-Oilers)
Organization: HP Information Networks, Cupertino, CA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

What a Game!!!!!

I have been a Bills fan for over twenty years and this was probably the most
memorable Bills game I have ever seen. (Maybe, if we had won the superbowl
the past two years I would've like Bills-Giants game better.)

That was the most incredible football game I have ever seen. Well after a
game like that I think Buffalo has the momentum to beat the Steelers in
Pittsburgh. 

Prediction:
Buffalo - 28
Pittsburgh - 14

Sincerely,

Pankaj Shukla
From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: All this America's team nonsense.
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:07:52 GMT
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA

In article <C0DzJH.F9t@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan ) writes:
>I hear that the Boys are going to be featured on Wheaties for
>winning the NFC-East!!!. Give me a break. 
>
>Now this is getting totally ridiculous. I shudder to think of
>what monkeying the media will do even if the Boys win their
>next game with the Eagles, leave alone winning the Super-Bowl.
>
>All this America's team crap is an insult to fans of other teams.

Why is it an insult?  I'm not a Cowboys fan, but I'm not insulted
by all of this.  It is purely a marketing gimmick by Wheaties to sell
more boxes of garbage to shoppers.  If those shoppers want to buy it
because of a football team's picture on the front - let them.

>Being a die-hard Viking fan, I take personal insult and any true
>fan of other teams will agree with me.  
>
>To the media-monkeys: Please keep the Boys' drooling to urself
>We don't need this nonsense.
>
>S.H
>NOTHING BETTER THAN GANG GREEN BEATING THE HELL OUT OF THE
>OVERRATED BOYS!!!
>
From: wesloskij@kirk.msoe.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Hip Pointer
Date: 7 Jan 93 13:50:28 CDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Milwaukee School Of Engineering, Milwaukee, WI USA

In laymans terms a hip pointer is actually a "muscle pulled from the hip
thing."  It is really a severe muscle pull in which the frontal thigh 
muscle tears or partially separates from the pelvic area (usually the
"hip bone").  Bo's injury was a severe case of this at first, but then
it was discovered that he had arthritis (similar to Neil Lomax of the 
St. Louis Cardinals and Joe Namath).  This caused him to have the hip
replacement surgery.  Thurman's injury is not by far career threatening.
His injury is similar to those "hip-pointers" that kickers and punters
sustain after many repetitions.  He should be back by the AFC championship
game, but Buffalo won't make it that far anyway.

Go Pittsburgh Steelers!!!   1992-1993 World Champions!!!

John Wesloski
wesloskij@kirk.msoe.edu
From: jdng90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Gorsuch JDN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Montana ...a poor sport?
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:56:47 GMT


  The only players who like being on the bench belong there. 
   or in the dole queue. 

  now regarding the Montana situation, after seeing the 9ers/Lions
  game my thoughts are that Joe didn't quite look like his old self
  but after a two year layoff who would. He has definitely got at
  least one more year in him. 
    But Young is doing well and can expect to be playing for six or
  so more seasons, so what do you do ? 
   Although it will be hard for everybody the best thing for the 
  team would be to trade Joe for veteran defensive talent, let him
   play out his career and then welcome him back as QB coach. 

  but suppose the CFL does put a franchise in Sacramento, then for 
  Joe to play and coach there would definitely pull in Californias
  football fans, and allow Joe to also play backup for the niners,
  while also being a starter. 

         any comments ? 
                jon 
                  jdng90@uk.ac.soton.ecs
 
 

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From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: steelers vs bills player match up
Organization: Clark University
Date: 7 JAN 93 00:55:35 GMT

In a previous article, rweisbe@starfleet.nswc.navy.mil (Bob Weisbeck) wrote:
>Pittsburgh played the Bills in Buffalo this season with the
>Bills winning.  My question is what players will be in this
>playoff game that did not play in the last meeting.
> 
>Bills:
>1. Kelly is out this time.
>    
I'm not positive about that, but it's beginning to look that way.
> 
>Steelers:
>1. Someone was on a drug suspension the last time (Green)?
> 
Nope, Green's last game before the suspension was against Buffalo. He's
back and played against Cleveland in the regular-season closer. 

>  Any other differences?

As far as I can recall, the teams were generally 100% healthy in the last 
game. The word may still be out on Cornelius Bennett, who was in street 
clothes last Sunday. 

-		
Bart "Webb" Tilney	
Email: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Thu,  7 Jan 1993 03:54:20 -0500 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: LIST OF FRUSTRATIONS.

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.football.pro: 6-Jan-93 LIST OF
FRUSTRATIONS. S. Hariharan @plains.NoD (916)

> Here is a Category-wise list of Team of Frustrations. Corrections
> are welcome from fans of other teams and I will post a revised list.

boy, have *YOU* got some corrections to make!

> A) HAVE BEEN TO THE SUPER-BOWL BUT NEVER WON IT
> ------------------------------------------------
> 1) Vikes ... 0-4  
> 2) Broncos   0-4
> 3) Bengals   0-2
> 4) Bills     0-2
> 5) Patriots  0-1
> 6) Rams      0-1
> 7) Eagles    0-1

these all look right at first glance.

> -------------------------------------------------
> Categories below are teams who have never even been to a Super Bowl
> B) HAVE NEVER WON A CONFERENCE CHAMPIONSHIP
> --------------------------------------------------
> 1) Browns    0-2
> 2) Oilers    0-1
> 3) Lions     0-1
> 4)Additions are welcome

well, the fact that they didn't make the SB means that they've never won
a conference championship! I assume you mean these are teams who have
never won, but have appeared in, a conference championship game. Add the
Chargers, who lost the Ice Bowl to Cincy (as was recently pointed out to
me), making them 0-1. I don't know of anybody else--didn't Tampa make
the NFC Championship in '80 or roundabout there?

> ---------------------------------------------------

> C) HAVE NEVER WON A PLAYOFF GAME
> ----------------------------------------------------
> 1) Saints     0-3

I assume this correct (I'm not sure if it's 3 losses, but we all know
they've never won one).

> D) HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A PLAYOFF GAME
> ---------------------------------------------------
> 1) Tampa Bay
> 2) Sea-Hawks

WRONGO, me Bucko! Seattle has been in at least two Wildcard games, and I
believe they have won the AFC West once. Tampa Bay (they point this out
on ESPN all the time) did pretty well in the playoffs once, but I think
that was their only appearance. So every team in the NFL has at least
*appeared* in the playoffs at least once (Phoenix *has* been in the
playoffs, right? When they were still in St.Louis?)

--Vernon.
From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: RE: What Pittsburg needs to win in '93.
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:43:13 GMT
Organization: Clark University

In a previous article, pdietz@cse.unl.edu (Phil Dietz) wrote:
> 
>It's disappointing to see the Steelers go so far and choke so bad.

Well, it wasn't like they blew a big lead, but the offense certainly had
it's chances. There seemed to be a general offensive breakdown, but give 
the Bills' defense credit. 

>Here are the areas I feel Pitt. needs most:
> 
>1) Decent wide receivers.  Sure Graham and Stone are fairly good, however 
>   in the last 8 games they've been dropping balls like crazy.  Mills came
>   around and looks like he is decent as well.  What Pitt. needs is one or even
>   two "top-flight" pass receivers.

I would give the recievers another year to show their stuff, except maybe for
Stone, who's been around longer. I hope we see more of Davenport.

>2) Offensive lineman.  True, Dawson and what's-his-name are pro-bowlers, 
>   however Pitt. gets sacked to damn much

What's the latest word on Leon Searcy? 

>3) Not to be rude, but a younger faster Line backer.  Williams and Lloyd are
>   mean mothers, however they had very few sacks this year.  The majority
>   came in one game (Cincinatti).  If Pittsburgh were to get a Eric Curry or
>   whatever for the aging David Little...things may turn around.

I agree with this. I think just one new impact lineman or linebacker would make
the entire primary defense more effective.

>4) Should probably invest in another RB just in case Foster's negotiations
>   faulter.  One benefit is that is Foster leaves Pitt., Pitt. will be able 
>   to sign another Free agent.

I don't know if we're in danger of losing Foster, but I've been very impressed
by Williams and Thompson, little as we've seen them. 

>5) This should probably be higher but the Defensive secondary has been very
>   problematic this year (23rd passing D(?))  Sure they are mean as hell too
>   (ie strip and hit) but they are covering their men to well.  Just look at
>   Walker vs. Beebe in Buffalo.  Walker would stand 10-15 yards back.  This 
>   pretty much guarentees a short-out pass.  Perhaps Pitt. should be looking
>   for a new defensive coordinator over a new secondary.  Someone that will
>   say "cover your man this time."

I think injuries at inopportune times have been the biggest problem of the 
secondary, but it would be nice to have better reserves at cornerback.

-		
Bart "Webb" Tilney	
Email: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Re: I Can't ****ing Stand It
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:19:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.013019.17456@netcom.com>, mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:

|> I watch football on Friday until my eyeballs dry up.  With the notable
|> exception of the Rose Bowl, all boring, one-sided games.
|> 
|> I watch both NFL playoff games Saturday.  Yawn.  The losers manage
|> 7 points between them.
|> 
|> I watch the first half of the Oilers-Bills game and conclude that last
|> week was no fluke; Buffalo is too beaten up to compete.  The 28-3 
|> halftime score serves as evidence.
|> 
|> when I've got chores to do, I turn off the set at halftime to go prune
|> some fruit trees.
|> 
|> 
|> 	AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I know exactly how you feel.  After imitating a couch potato for
the last few days, I watched Buffalo down 28-3 and decide that
enough is enough; go get some work done.  On my way out, I check the
TV to see if there is any life in the Bills -- INT, 35-3... OK< I
am outa here.

You can imagine how I felt when I read r.s.f.pro a short while ago and
almost choked in disbelief!  Yowch!!  What a game to miss....

Argghhh , to think I turned down several parties to stay home and 
watch the Sugar Bowl........  ugh..

Oh well, at leat I went 4-4 on my picks for the wildcard games...

And, it could have been worse -- I could have been a Houston fan
(of course, this year as  a Bear and Illini fan, life has been 
pretty shoddy anyway :-).

Bharat


|> Michael Zimmers                                    |  Home:  408 996 1984

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From: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com (Dan Smith)
Subject: Re: Whose fans are most frustrated?
Reply-To: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:54:04 GMT

In article 3660@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu, pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud) writes:
>In article <16B4DDF49.ISTRE-A@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU> istre@ricevm1.rice.edu writes:
>>I would like to cast my vote for the fans who have suffered the most. I am
>>talking about their team having high expectations only to falter in the
>>end. I will call this the "Most Frustrated Fans" award.
>>
>>The nominees are:
>>
>>1): Denver Broncos fans - The Broncos have been to the playoffs countless
>>2): Minnesota Vkings fans - Same as Denver. At least, they had a chance in
>>3): Cleveland Browns fans - Numerous AFC title game appearances only to have
>>4): Buffalo Bills fans - Won AFC East every year for last five years and 2
>>5): Houston Oilers fans - Nine playoff appearances since 1978 but only 4
>
>>And the winner is ---- you guessed it, Houston Oilers fans. And yes, you
>>guessed it, I am an Oilers fan. What else can you say when your team has
>>made the playoffs six years in a row without a least making it to the
>>title game at least once. At least the Broncos, Vikings, and Bills have
>>made it to the Super Bowl and the Browns have made it to the title game.
>>
>>OK, I apologize, After all, I am only venting off some 20 years of play-
>>off anger and frustration.
>
>
>I would include Green Bay on this list as well, even though I think I agree 
>with you on the winner.  Granted, the teams you have chosen all were succussful
>and never won the Super Bowl.  I think that 25 years of nothing but sorry draft
>picks, one division title (20 years ago), and two playoff appearances count for
>something.  I also remember several 8-8 seasons where 9-7 would have won them 
>the division.
>

 I would like to include Saints fans to this list, please. How many losing seasons
 in a row? The, we finally get a coach and some players to get us to the playoffs
 and what happens? Every fucking year we make the playoffs and lose the first game
 regardless of opponent (see Atlanta last year). Pretty frustrating.
From: tait@uts.amdahl.com (Tait Kirkham)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: SON OF CRAP FOOTBALL!
Date: 8 Jan 93 19:41:20 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1993Jan8.132300.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>For eveyone who has picked me up on my previous spelling mistakes, I
>thought I would prove to you that I can spell properlly, if I sit down
                                               ^^^^^^^^^
I really enjoy  your constant ability to make yourself look increcibly
stupid.   Don't get me wrong.  It's not just your spelling.  That's just
a bonus.  You could spell every word wrong (you are approaching that,
by the way) and it still wouldn't make you look any worse than you
do after I decode the contents of your posts.  You are very funny.
Unfortunately I'm laughing at you, not with you.

Tait


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From: vv1@dgp.toronto.edu (Marc J. Ouellette)
Subject: 3AFC Finals in a row (was Re: Bills 24, Steelers 3)
Date: 10 Jan 93 07:03:54 GMT

kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes:

>In article <C0LsxI.7FE@acsu.buffalo.edu> kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes:
>>The Bills win another one and become only the second team to play in the
>>AFC Championship game three years in a row (Raiders were the first). Thanks
>correction. They were the fourth team to do it. Miami did it, and I forget
>the other team.
The other team is Pittsburgh.  They beat Oakland 24-13 in 1974, 16-10 in
1975, and lost to them 24-7 the following year.  Actually, Pittsburgh and
Oakland met in the playoffs 5 years in a row, with Pittsburgh winning 13-7 in
1972 (via the Immaculate Reception), and losing 33-14 in 1973.  Oakland also
played in 5 straight AFC finals, losing to Miami 27-10 in 1973, and losing
to Denver 20-17 in 1977.

Marc
From: buds@hpubvwa.nsr.hp.com (Bud Sloan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bledsoe to the NFL
Date: 7 Jan 1993 23:33:02 GMT
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Mike Gleason (mgleason@cse.unl.edu) wrote:

: P.S.  I heard a rumor that if New England picks Drew Bledsoe first, Seattle
: is going to pick the All-American punter from Nebraska, Mike Stigge, as the
: #2 pick overall ;-) ;-) ;-)

That makes about as much sense as some of the other stupid, ridiculous,
crazy, insane, idiotic, absurd, preposterous, cheap, stupid, ridiculous
(ooops, I am starting to repeat myself) things they have done since Ken
Bering bought the team a few years ago.
From: tehyang@aludra.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Eagles finally win one
Date: 5 Jan 1993 21:29:51 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Last Sunday will be one day I will treasure for a long time. Being a fanatic
Eagles fan and having watched them go down year after year in the playoffs, 
I almost could not believe what I saw. To actually come back from behind to
beat the Saints in the Superdome. Wow. I still couldn't believe it. I am 
actually more in shock over the Eagles' win than the Bills'.

Anyway, the Eagles showed their "secret weapon" in the Saints game: Heath 
Sherman. He was totally unstoppable in the second half. 

I think now that the Eagles finally got this "not being able to win in the
playoffs" monkey of their backs, they will go all the way. They must have
gained an incredible amount of confidence with this win, and I'm sure they will
go into Dallas without any fear at all.

I just hope I can catch a glimpse of Randall when he comes here to Pasadena...

-Teh Kao
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From: Andrew Bros <bros@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: Domes suck
Originator: bros@neptune.convex.com
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:26:26 GMT
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Reply-To: bros@convex.COM (Andrew Bros)
Organization: Convex Computer Corporation, Richardson, TX
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <xk3adt8@Unify.Com> tsv@Unify.com (Tim Vannaman) writes:
>What we need is for the fans to  domed in so they don't have to 
>sit in adverse weather, but the players to play outside.
>
>Interesting concept, but would never work.
>
>Tim.

  I think it's called Pay-Per-View Television.
-- 
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It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations,
if you live near him.  - JRR Tolkien, The Hobbit.