From: cza@troy.cc.bellcore.com ( 100)
Subject: Re: Continuation on CYPRUS, Palikaria Terrorists and Makarios!
Keywords: Palikaria, Enosis, PKK, Troodos Mts, South Cyprus, Palik dream
Organization: BCR, NJ-USA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 22:51:11 GMT

In article <BzHKy0.AK0@news.cso.uiuc.edu> msg7038@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michalis  Syrimis) writes:
>
>No point answering the ENOSIS part of the argument.  And please, my 
>ears are not big at all.....A word of advice try to reduce your name
>calling to people, you tend to be carried away..., and a request please
>share with us the meaning of the word Palik, this is the second
>time you are using it in this post.(Serdad Ar. refused to tell us so
>far, he is the only other user of the word I know off..)

Since the argument are about ears, I could not believe mine on
what I am hearing from Michalis.  As if he wasn't the guy who
cursed in his first or second posting in SCT, he now
gives advice to Baysan.  What a turn around.  However, he is absulete 
right in his name calling point.  Seems that he comes a long way since 
his early days in this netwok.  Congratulations!  There is another
thing that I want to point out to Michalis.  The definition of "palik."
and his belief of Serdar's refusal to defining it.  According to my 
memory (works in most of the time), Serdar was so glad to explain the 
meaning of the word when he was asked.  He said (more or less) that 
"paliks" are the people who suddenly prefer to wear the skirt after 
putting themselves into an unforseen jam.  I am sure he would give his 
exact definition f asked again.  According to Serdar's definition, 
paliks also have the nerve to ask to get their pants back after their 
troubles are over as if nothing has happened.  I agree that it is 
rather a profound term.  Palik that is.  However, It fits very well 
to some that I have seen discussing the Cyprus issue in SCG portraying 
the Turkish forces arrival to the island as an unexpected and unjust 
event. Sure it spoiled many palik dreams.  But it was hardly
unjust and unexpected; especially after seeing what really happens 
in Bosnia if such a force does not arrive.  Turkish goverment's 
far-sight in 1974 has protected Turks who are minority in Cyprus 
from the same faith that the Bosnians are facing today.  

There is no way that the clock will be turn back in Cyprus.  Doing 
that will encourage many more palik dreams.  Sure arming South Cyprus 
by telling the story to protect against another Turkish invasion of
the island is Vassilou's previlege.  If there was such a
Plan who stopped the Turkish Arm forces.  Actually, Greek-Cypruits are 
preparing themselves to regain the Island back if they cannot get it on 
the table.  This is their option to purse.  So far, Turks always let the
Greeks do the first move in the Island.   I am sure there would be no 
exception for the next move.

The real question in negotiations before resorting arms is the 
arithmetic on who gets what rather than a united Cyprus.
Therefore, GC must cut down on the rhetoric on the United Cyprus/TC-GC 
brotherhood and face the realities that Denktas telling them in 18 
years.  People who lived in that island know each other very well  
that there was and is no bond and thrust among the inhabitants for all 
these claims that GC's are making. I am sure the Atilla Line will move 
a little bit to make it as a concession from the Turkish part.  
They are willing to come down around 30% land from 36%.  Expecting more
than that must be a palik dream after what has really happened in that 
island.

C. Akgun
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