HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: elg@elgamy.sccsi.com (Eric Lee Green)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: Americans taxed less, complain more
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:41:31 GMT
Organization: Eric's Amiga 2000 @ Home

From article <1992Aug12.140816.1360@novell.com>, by bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner):
> In article <00713334718@elgamy.sccsi.com> elg@elgamy.sccsi.com (Eric Lee Green) writes:
>>Actually, *NO* tax money goes to support the U.S. Postal Service. It is, in
>>fact, producing a profit -- which is then taken away from it along with
>
> Hmmm, I read in the Austin American-Statesman yesterday (8/11/92) that
> they were (or will be) running a $2 billion deficit.  This was in an

It could be a "will be" situation. Currently, the Post Office doesn't run a
"real" deficit, but it does run a "paper" deficit (caused by Congress
taking a portion of the money earned by them and applying it to "deficit
reduction").

>>The biggest problem, of course, is that there is currently a law
>>prohibiting competition in the first-class mail arena, so to that extent we
>>are "subsidizing" the U.S. Postal Service (by allowing it to charge prices
>>higher than an independent service would charge). I would suggest that in
>>the typical business, though, this isn't too big a problem. Bulk mail
>>advertisers, on the other hand, throw fits over the whole situation.
>
> Really?  I always thought they got nice discounts for mailing in bulk
> as well as pre-sorting.  Look at some junk mail sometime, you'll see
> prices from $0.11 and up if memory serves.

When you are mailing out 10,000,000 pieces of mail, the difference between
$0.10 and $0.11 is substantial.

--
 Eric Lee Green  elg@elgamy.sccsi.com         Dodson Elementary
 (713) 437-6908  uunet!nuchat!elgamy!elg      Houston, TX
                "Kids are kids, no matter what"
Xref: sparky tx.general:579 tx.politics:4042
From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: tx.general,tx.politics
Subject: Re: Lottery
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:28:23 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Aug12.201358.11286@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806) writes:
>johniac@hwperform.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti) writes:

>> I support the lottery because I like to gamble.

>i like to gamble too

>but i resent the fact that the texas state government has a monopoly on
>lotteries.

>what makes THEM so special?

Perhaps because (theoretically at least) the money is for YOUR benefit.
It pays for the schools your kids go to, the streets you drive on, the
jails to house criminals that would otherwise be on your block, etc...

 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
    "This must be Thursday.  I never could get the hang of Thursdays"
                                                       - D Adams
  - Patrick Taylor
    Ericsson Network Systems
    exuptr@exu.ericsson.se                       "Don't let the .se fool you"
    alternately, exuptr@ZGNews.Lonestar.Org
From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: rational ways of spending money
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:10:35 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Novell, Inc. --Austin

In article <1992Aug14.022300.5331@mercury.unt.edu> ian@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Ian Parberry) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.144201.5381@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> moller@netmail.austin.ibm.com writes:
>many people happy.  The naive solution is to let the individual taxpayer
>choose, but of course the bureaucratic overhead for maintaining such a system
>of choice could mean that it will cost more than the present system.  Besides,
>the average taxpayer is as thick as two short planks, and probably not capable
>of making rational decisions on where their tax money goes (current company
>excepted, of course).

Actually, let's not except current company.  Would it then be possible
that you could decide that you have more of a claim to spend my money
as you see fit because your way is more rational?  Suppose you think it
may be more rational to feed and house the homeless while I decide that
it is more rational for me to spend my money on quality stereo
equipment.  Who gets the money and what is the justification supposing
you can't persuade me and I you?


>>|>> The taxes are low.
>>                               Wrong.
>
>That's where you are wrong.  Nobody on the net has been able to convince me
>otherwise.  From personal experience, they are low indeed.

Relative to other countries or in absolute terms?  If relative, then
would you still consider taxes in the U.S. low if the average tax rate
were 75% while the rest of the world taxed @ 95%?

Later,
Brendan
-- 
Brendan B. Boerner		Phone: 512/346-8380
Internet: bboerner@novell.com	MHS: bboerner@novell
Please use ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ if replying by mail.
From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: Re: August 1992 CACTUS Newsletter
Date: 16 Aug 1992 00:56:24 GMT
Organization: Taronga Park BBS

[Followups re-redirected]

In article <1992Aug15.183304.4896@chinacat.unicom.com> chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal) writes:
>In article <THCI8OC@taronga.com> peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>>Right. Conceivably they could call it Idris, QNX, Coherent, OS/9, Minix,
>>or Linux. It's a long shot, but who knows... :->

>How many of those would you use to run your business, or do your
>schematic capture and simulation, or other real work?

Well, I have consulted for people using Idris to run THEIR businesses.
Regulus, too, one I forgot. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend Coherent,
QNX, or OS/9 for the same purpose. Minix and Linux are less professional,
but so is 386BSD... BSDI demonstrates that they have potential.

>Is there a point to this message, or are you just working to make sure
>you reach your monthly quota for kilobytes posted?

Yes, there's a point. That is, that there *are* a number of viable
operating systems without a skerrick of AT&T code, without any shadow
hanging over them, and with in many cases a better fundamental design
than BSD or System V. BSDI isn't the only game in town, by any means,
though it's certainly a very exciting development and I would be pretty
upset to see it vanish into the maw of the Death Star.

I'm really disturbed when I see professional and intelligent people
making decisions based on emotional claims. You want to fight AT&T:
then help *everyone* who's offering an alternative. Don't pretend that
they don't exist.
-- 
                                                                `-_-'
                         Have you hugged your wolf today?        'U`

Peter da Silva, Taronga Park BBS, Houston, TX  +1 713 568 0480/1032
From: spinach@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (kevin t. kruzich)
Newsgroups: tx.general
Subject: very general
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:46:37 GMT
Reply-To: spinach@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (kevin t. kruzich)
Distribution: tx
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: spinach@louie.cc.utexas.edu

this is the first piece of mail i have ever sent... etc. etc.
please send me some info on how i can further manipulate this program
i would rather learn by a tutorial of some kind... does this exist somewhere 
within either this program or ? etc. etc.
Please feel free to stuff my mail box with anything entertaining or useful

thank you

	kevin
From: curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806)
Newsgroups: tx.general,tx.politics
Subject: Re: Lottery
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:13:58 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: IBM AWD, Austin

johniac@hwperform.austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti) writes:

> I support the lottery because I like to gamble.

i like to gamble too

but i resent the fact that the texas state government has a monopoly on
lotteries.

what makes THEM so special?

i'd like to start "curt's lottery"

and i guarantee that the statistical value of a lottery ticket i sell
will exceed 45 cents on the dollar, (tx's lottery ticket value)

in effect the gov. is saying:
	"gambling is immoral (except when we're the house)"

if legality and morality are disconnected, what happens to the
commoner's respect for law?
-- 

curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com (Curt L. Finch) | AIX NFS/NIS Field Quality 
My views are unrelated to those of IBM     |        Austin, TX
 The Deficit is theft from the young by the old.  Literally candy from babies.
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Kent Polk - Mail bouncing
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:04:09 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Organization: NOT

mail to m31.nde.swri.edu is bouncing. please send me a valid address.
ignore if this address is valid but failing due to a temporary problem.

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Labor day/weekend ride
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:53:13 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Organization: NOT

jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols) writes:
>If I ever get my forks fixed, I am interested in either a day ride 
>on that Saturday or possibly a two day affair, camping out somewhere 
>on Saturday night, or even Friday night if that would be better.
>The Hill Country is the place, but other than that, no set plans.

if you've got something against the Splatterfest, that's fine, but if
you're gonna steal our ideas we're gonna have to send Mark "Thumper"
Parsons to have a little chat with you. I guess I'll have to start
putting copyright notices on Splatterfest plans...

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
From: captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bran Muffin)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Help!  NewsFeed = Crap!
Summary: I need help testing this news site
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:22:09 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

It seems to be taking anywhere from 3days - oo days for messages to 
reach me here.  I only saw 2 messages in the last week!  Would some
kind soul out there, who has a good news feed, give me a hand figuring
out how much news this site is losing, please?  I really don't understand
why this is happening.  You'd think that UT would be a somewhat central
point in the propagation of news, but then I don't really understand how
the whole thing works anyway.

-- 
|The opinions expressed above are merely the result of random synaptic firings|
|Due to a lack of interest there will be no more poetry in my sig.   -   O    |
|                                                                      |      |
|captain@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  (Brian Murfin)  DoD# 0690   Hawk       \_^___/   |
From: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Help!  NewsFeed = Crap!
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:27:24 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Distribution: tx
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu


I don't think there's been a drop in your newsfeed . . . I only
saw a couple messages this past week, too.  
-- 
Mark A. Parsons
mparsons@bcm.tmc.edu
From: moore@uhibpd.phys.uh.edu (Lorra L. Moore)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: I need directions
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:09:19 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: University of Houston

I need directions on getting from the 249 area north west of Houston to
the Chicago House off 6th street in Austin... and I need them by
tomorrow morning. :)

I won't be taking the bike... unfortunately, .. but I am giving a friend
a ride and she wouldn't really fit to well on the bitch seat on my
bike... that and I plan on driving home after the show at midnight and I
don't really want to do three hours on a motorcycle with someone that
hasn't riden in 15 years on the back in the middle of the night after I
have been up since 5 that morning... I am not really sure I want to do
it in a car... but at least we can switch off drivers or pull over to
the side of the road and crash...

Hope someone can help... 

Lorra
From: exubak@exu.ericsson.se (Becky Keifer)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Yamaha FJ1100
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:17:52 GMT
Reply-To: exubak@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


    
1985 Yamaha FJ1100 - $2800

    great condition has
         
           - 15000 miles
           - Dunlop Sport Touring Tires with less than 200 miles
           - lowers (after market)
           - trottle control

      This is in Richardson, TX.  Send e-mail responses or call Tim at
       214/234-1903.
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Labor day/weekend ride
Date: 22 Aug 92 22:23:34 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Organization: NOT

jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols) writes:
]WAIT,WAIT!  You misunderstand me.  I have NOTHING against the 
]Splatterfest.  In fact, I was sorry I missed the first one.  Hell, if 
]people want to have the 2nd (3rd?) Splatterfest on Labor Day 
]weekend, I'll be there.  Otherwise, I just want to ride.  I don't 
]care if 100 people of 0 people come with me.  I am having serious 
]withdrawal symptoms as I wait for the dickhead distributors to mail 
]my parts.

we're just giving you shit jeff. 

]I humbly apologize to the great gods of Splatterfest! 

well, ok, I guess you can be the honorary splatteree for the next fest  :)

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                 92 BMW K100RS16VABS
From: st1lz@rosie.uh.edu (Duck aka D. Harper)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I need directions
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:51:00 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: University of Houston
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug13.190919.6147@menudo.uh.edu>, moore@uhibpd.phys.uh.edu (Lorra L. Moore) writes...
?I need directions on getting from the 249 area north west of Houston to
?the Chicago House off 6th street in Austin... and I need them by
?tomorrow morning. :)
? 
?I won't be taking the bike... unfortunately, .. but I am giving a friend
?a ride and she wouldn't really fit to well on the bitch seat on my
?bike... that and I plan on driving home after the show at midnight and I
?don't really want to do three hours on a motorcycle with someone that
?hasn't riden in 15 years on the back in the middle of the night after I
?have been up since 5 that morning... I am not really sure I want to do
?it in a car... but at least we can switch off drivers or pull over to
?the side of the road and crash...
                          ^^^^^

Find some wood, Lorra.  Maybe you should use better words. :-)

? 
?Hope someone can help... 
? 
?Lorra
? 

--
"Rabbit's clever"said Poo thoughtfully. "Yes,"said Piglet,"Rabbit's clever."
"And he has Brain." "Yes,"said Piglet,"Rabbit has Brain." "I suppose,"said Pooh,
"that that's why he never understands anything."-_The_Tao_of_Pooh_
Don Harper, DoD#0520, '82 GS550LZ, '87 CRX Si, Email: st1lz@jetson.uh.edu
From: jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: looking for trouble
Date: 21 Aug 1992 14:45:23 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Rice University

mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:

>In article <3489@unisql.UUCP>, ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea) writes:
>|> 
>|> I'm gonna be riding to Houston this weekend (from Austin)
>|> and I was planning on taking 290 all the way, seeing as how
>|> I-10 is so boring.  Does anybody know any places along the
>|> way to be careful, like well-known speed traps, small-town cops
>|> who hate motorcyclists, that kind of thing?  I haven't been
>|> out there in years & years, and never on a bike.  

>Well, 290 is pretty boring as well.  But I've ridden 290 quite a
>bit . . well, a couple times to Austin and back, and several
>times from Houston to Hempstead(where I catch 6 north).  Never
>had any problems with cops . . . . and that's considering that
>my moto, for some unknown reason!! ;-), won't stay at the posted
>speed limit!!

Well, in the world of testimonials, there is bound to be others who 
disagree ;-)  My experience on 290 has been a living hell.  It is 
speed trap city, especially near the small towns and highway inter-
changes.  On one trip I was taking some really small back roads, but 
had to get on 290 for about 1/2 mile.  I had not seen a cop for  hours
but on that stretch of 290, sure enough, there he was, parked around 
a curve, half hidden by a small rise in the road.  Luckily I knew how 
notorious that area was, so I didn't get stopped.  YMMV.


--
*  Jeff Nichols                 |   I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay. * 
*  DoD#0402         AMA#568571  |   Ride:  GS500E    		   *
*  It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and I'm wearing milkbone    *
*  underwear--  Norm Peterson					   *
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: looking for trouble
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:46:08 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA



Hey y'all,

I'm gonna be riding to Houston this weekend (from Austin)
and I was planning on taking 290 all the way, seeing as how
I-10 is so boring.  Does anybody know any places along the
way to be careful, like well-known speed traps, small-town cops
who hate motorcyclists, that kind of thing?  I haven't been
out there in years & years, and never on a bike.  

Any advice appreciated.

Thanks,

Ray
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: looking for trouble
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:47:51 GMT
Reply-To: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Distribution: tx
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <742@zx11.UUCP> joe@zx11.cactus.org writes:
>get yourself a copy of The Roads of Texas at a local Bookstop. it'll
>show you a shitload of much better ways to get to Houston (as many as
>possible considering you're talking HOUSTON).


Well, if I buy the book, I don't get to eat dinner once I actually
get there, so looks like I'm taking 290 anyways.



-- 
Ray Shea			"Them New Agers will buy anything if
UniSQL, Inc.			 you tell 'em it's from Bali."
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu		-- Eric the Bondo Fish Man
DoD #0372, '88 Hawk NT650
From: jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Labor day/weekend ride
Date: 22 Aug 92 18:12:46 GMT
Organization: Rice University

steve@zx11.cactus.org (Steve Bade) writes:

>joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
>>>The Hill Country is the place, but other than that, no set plans.
>>
>>if you've got something against the Splatterfest, that's fine, but if
>>you're gonna steal our ideas we're gonna have to send Mark "Thumper"
>>Parsons to have a little chat with you. I guess I'll have to start
>>putting copyright notices on Splatterfest plans...
>>

>Joe, don't worry, with such short notice they never could pulloff
>a splatterfest clone.  AT best they could hope for is a taudry
>group of houstonites who have no clue where the real hill country
>roads are and what the best ones are.

WAIT,WAIT!  You misunderstand me.  I have NOTHING against the 
Splatterfest.  In fact, I was sorry I missed the first one.  Hell, if 
people want to have the 2nd (3rd?) Splatterfest on Labor Day 
weekend, I'll be there.  Otherwise, I just want to ride.  I don't 
care if 100 people of 0 people come with me.  I am having serious 
withdrawal symptoms as I wait for the dickhead distributors to mail 
my parts.

I humbly apologize to the great gods of Splatterfest! 


--
*  Jeff Nichols                 |   I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay. * 
*  DoD#0402         AMA#568571  |   Ride:  GS500E    		   *
*  It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and I'm wearing milkbone    *
*  underwear--  Norm Peterson					   *
From: jcn@rice.edu (Jeff C. Nichols)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Labor day/weekend ride
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:09:03 GMT
Organization: Rice University

sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears) writes:

>I am game.. but only for Saturday and/or Sunday...

and 

mark parsons writes:

>Sure, count me in . . . just let me know when/where!!

Well, I tried to reply (mail) to Mark, but according to our mail 
server, <mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu>... Host unknown

Any ideas Mark?

Anyway, here was the response I gave to Mark:

Well, I was thinking about either leaving on Friday night, camp 
somewhere around the Austin area, ride all day Saturday, then either 
return Saturday or Sunday, depending on the state of exhaustion (you 
know how tiring it can be to pedal my bike ;-)

One consideration:  It is Labor Day weekend, so getting a campsite 
(or even a motel might be difficult).  That's why it might be best 
just to make it a one day affair.  Say, leave early Saturday morning, 
stop somewhere for breakfast, ride all day, then eat dinner/lunch 
whatever, and ride back Saturday night.  

I guess alot depends on how many people are interested in doing this.

Hell, I may not even be able to if I don't get my forks back from the 
shop sometime soon!


Whoever is interested, let me know what would be best.  I doesn't 
really matter to me.  I've been without my bike for two weeks now 
and I just want to RIDE!


--
*  Jeff Nichols                 |   I'm a lumberjack and I'm okay. * 
*  DoD#0402         AMA#568571  |   Ride:  GS500E    		   *
*  It's a dog-eat-dog world out there, and I'm wearing milkbone    *
*  underwear--  Norm Peterson					   *
From: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Bulletin Board ad for moto class
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:57:18 GMT
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Originator: mparsons@fleming.iaims.bcm.tmc.edu



On the way to work this morning I passed a bulletin board
that had a top down view of a motorcycle's gas tank and 
cluster/handlebars.  Looked like a Shadow . . . with a 
red tank . . anyway . . . .

The title said "This is your desk, imagine the class."

And there was a 1-800 # below the bike.  I didn't
notice the entire # but it was probably for the MSF.
Didn't notice the MSF logo either . . but then I 
was in the middle of a bunch of cages and thought
I should pay attention to them?? bummer . . priorities!!
:-(

;-)
From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: looking for trouble
Date: 21 Aug 92 23:56:14 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX

In article <yw_n92k.rbp@netcom.com> rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker) writes:
>
>
>hey, i thought *all* the roads in tx were boring! except maybe
>out in the hill country, where all those crosses are painted
>in the road.
>

Nope, try Harry Hines in Dallas.

Hookers & titty bars.

Not boring at all.


-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.