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From: ST102272@BROWNVM.brown.edu (Young Su)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: TRANSLATED: Dagger of Kamui ED song
Date: 16 Aug 92 20:19:29 GMT
To: "Origin of LISTS.ANIME-L" <anime-l@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>

Because this song was in old Japanese, the translator had trouble
understanding it at certain points.  Please E-Mail me any corrections.

Someone please be kind and find an FTP home for this.

Translated by Shinichiro Shuda
brought to you by Young Su

Japanese is present first, then the English translation.

The Soundtrack to The Dagger Of Kamui was produced by Kadokawa Records
and is distributed by Columbia Records.

LULLABYE OF KAMUI         v1.0
End song to Dagger of Kamui

Japanese:

First verse:
Hy ru ru ru ru.
Hy ru ru ru ru.

Yukusoku shita wake jya nai ke ledo,
yukusoku shita noto onajikotosa.

Aitso no actsusani foretatoki,
Ashitawo moketemo iito omo, tayo.

Shiraubakanni nerattanoni,
Aitso wo Aitso wo tsoremodoshite.

Shiraubakanni nerattanoni,
Watashi wo kuruwaseta otokatachi wo kakaseru mon gya naiwa.

Semete semete wakareno kuchizukeo.

Kazeni na, ta Aitsu.
Kazeni na, ta Aitsu.

Hy ru ru ru ru.

Hy ru ru ru ru.

Second verse:
Rekishiwo norikaerare ru no wa.

Honto wa ona nokazu namoni.

Aitso go hashita ato no wa,
Kuusuki mo narazu ogiketsuiteru.

Shiraubakanni nerattanoni,
Aitso ni Aitso ni amasugirowa.

Shiraubakanni nerattanoni,
Atashi wo madowaseta otoko sai koishikunaiwa.

Donna Donna tokuni hanaretemo.

Kazeni na, ta Aitsu.
Kazeni na, ta Aitsu.

Hy ru ru ru ru.
Hy ru ru ru ru.

English:

First verse:
(sound of the wind blowing)

Although I didn't make a promise,
But it's the same thing as making a promise.

When I touched his heat,
I thought it was alright to face tomorrow.

I aimed at you because you didn't know.

You got him back.

I aimed at you becuase you didn't know.

Don't let me write about the men who made me shake,
At least let me kiss you before we part.

He who became the wind,
He who became the wind.

(sound of the wind blowing)

Second verse:
Who can change the History.
I am really a woman.

After he has run,
Scared because of devastation.

I aimed at you because you didn't know.

You're too easy on him.

I'm not missing the men who seduced me.

Even if we are far apart.

He who became the wind,
He who became the wind.

(sound of the wind blowing)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: hcy@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (hon-chi.yu)
Subject: "Fog Phenomenon" on AnimEigo's Miyu LD
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:22:13 GMT

   
       After reading Tzung-I's news article about the "thin ice effect"
on AnimEigo's Miyu LD, I decided to check on it myself.  (In fact, I got
the same impression when I first watched the LD, but I thought it was only
because that I had not watched Miyu for a while)  I compared AnimEigo's
LD against a direct VHS copy of Miyu episode 4 (Japanese version).  I 
synchronized the two and used the picture-in-picture feature in my monitor
to compare the two versions in real time.  Sure enough, the cassette version
seems to offer more vivid (brighter) colors and sharper image (higher contrast)
than the Miyu LD.  The Miyu LD's image appeared to be covered by a "softening
optical filter". Oh, by the way, the difference is not due to CAV vs. CLV as
CAV only offers slightly better S/N ratio at the outer tracks and there is
no significant differences in color or resolution.
        I brought this up not as a complaint, as I think AnimEigo has done
a terrific job in subtitling and offering all 4 episodes at a reasonable price,
but just to draw their attention in case they are not aware of the problem.
If this problem is not associated with the Miyu master tape AnimEigo received,
or the fog effect is not intentional, then there is likely to be a
weak link or mis-alignment at some point in their subtitling system and
they should take a closer look at that.
From: gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ANIMEIGO : BUBBLEGUM CRISIS ON LASERDISC
Keywords: animeigo bubblegum crisis laserdisc ld
Date: 17 Aug 92 00:15:19 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <36904@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:
>In article <1992Aug16.073435.15545@foretune.co.jp> trebor@foretune.co.jp (Robert J Woodhead) writes:
>>Furthermore, if you have already purchased one or more Bubblegum Crisis
>>episodes on VHS tape, you can "upgrade" to LaserDisc by mailing in the
>>packaging wraps from the episodes you already own along with your order
>           ^^^^^
>>for the subscription.  For each wrap you send, you'll get $10 off the
>>subscription price, which means you can have all of Bubblegum Crisis on
>>LaserDisc for as little as $140.  Each wrap submitted must be from a
>>different Crisis episode; the back of the wrap will be stamped with a
>>mark indicating it has been used, and mailed back to you after your order
>>has been recorded.
>
>What do you mean wraps?  It doesn't sound like you're talking about
>the clamshells, so what are they?  You don't expect us to save all
>those postal packaging that the tapes come in, do you?

The "covers", the little thin cardboard/paper with the art that goes inside the
plastic on the clamshell that "wraps" around the clamshells.

Ryan Gavigan
gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu
From: robh@whitebase.ukp.com (Rob Hull)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Dark Angel compilation
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:45:42 EDT
Organization: UKP Systems, Middletown, NJ

  I was looking back through my Animags and was wondering if there was ever 
a compilation put together of the Dark Angel manga by Kia Asamia in Animag.
Anybody know?

Rob Hull
Robh@whit?1ase.ukp.com
From: jferrara@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (J 'have a jet ski' Ferrara)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anime of my dreams
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:18:52 GMT
Organization: Sure, whatever

In article <J+g-qm#@engin.umich.edu> bernyeh@panthro.engin.umich.edu (Bernard Yeh) writes:
>
>
>What I'd really, really like to see is David Brin's "Startide Rising"
>in anime.
>

Yes!!!! (Sorry, just had to say that.)

J "have a jet ski" Ferrara
Hous of the Techno-Discordians
Aquatic Amusements Division
From: rang@laputa.ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang)
Subject: Re: Streamline Dub Jobs.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Reply-To: rang@ics.uci.edu (Roger P. Ang)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:37:12 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <VRb-Dz+@engin.umich.edu> bernyeh@panthro.engin.umich.edu (Bernard Yeh) writes:
>Okay then, WHAT IS THE ENGLISH DUB JOB OF A NON-ENGLISH FILM (in any genre)
>THAT ALL DUB JOBS MUST MATCH UP TO????

	See the dubbed version of "Das Boot" (The Boat).  This movie
was originally released in the U.S. subbed, did well, and was dubbed
for wider release.  It's even been shown on TV.

	On a different note, if anyone has complaints about the
subtitle jobs done by the various companies out there, go see a sub of
other films.  In live action films I've seen, titles are usually solid
colors (no outlines, even on video versions), very terse, and seemed
to be roughly synced.

Ours is a jaded universe.               Roger P. Ang (rang@laputa.ics.uci.edu)
Go around with your tongue in your      Grad student at the
cheek, and people will think an alien   Dept. of Information & Computer Sci.
will explode out of your face.          Univ. of California, Irvine.
From: rickf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Rick Fung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Canadian Postal Service????
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 08:46:53 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

vlad@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Vlad G. Pohnert) writes:

- ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer) writes:
- 
- -       How much does it cost to send a tape from Canada to the US?
- -       Has anyone had problems with the Vancouver Post Office? They seem
- - to be losing some mail....
- - 
- - -- 
- I live in Canada and have never lost anything and I do order A LOT of 
- things. The biggest problem with the postal service is that we must have 
- the worst CUSTOMS system in the entire world!!! The trouble just to order 
- something is unbeleavable!!
-  
- I Tape sent from here in Canada to the US will cost aprox $8.00 CND
-  
- Vlad
- 
Agree with on Canadian Customs.  Those bloody idiots.
 
As for the $8 cdn cost, I think you must have sent the tape via
airmail.  I found that airmail is double what the ground mail 
rates are.
 
But, as for sending tapes from Canada to the US; it depends on how 
heavy the parcel is.  Usually, I found that send 4 tapes to 
US is about $5.65 cdn by ground, $10.45 by air.  For 1 tape, 
it could be about $3.25 cdn by ground; $4.50 cdn by air.  
 
One interesting fact, I found out about our 
wacky postal system, is that the cost to send 2 tapes to the US is 
the same as sending 4 tapes to the US!  Figure that one out.

*************************************************************************
Rick Fung                               Email: rickf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Vice-President of B.A.K.A               Banzai Anime Klub of Alberta
*************************************************************************
From: rickf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Rick Fung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Gasp! Canceled?
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 23:58:40 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:
- Typical. I finally get my first lot of Yawara episodes and am just
- getting into it, and they pull the plug. Dear Mr. Murphy, you're
- japanese, nee? :)
 
Yeah, I know what you mean.  Just received my first few episodes of 
Yawara today myself and now I hear it's being cancel :<  Btw, does
anyone know how many episodes there will be when the series ends? I
like to get an idea what I'm in for :)
- 
-  > The last episode of Yawara will air on Sept. 21, and Ranma ends on the 25.
- 
- Hmmm, I wonder why they didn't wait with the Ranma and Yawara movie
- release until AFTER the series had finished. Would have been somewhat
- more appropriate.
- 
There's a Yawara! movie?  Do you happen to know what the movie is going to
be about?

*************************************************************************
Rick Fung                               Email: rickf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
Vice-President of B.A.K.A               Banzai Anime Klub of Alberta
*************************************************************************
From: U19807@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Godzilla Vs Charles Barklay(sp?)
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:42:42 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <1992Aug13.140714.14328@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, yjc@po.cwru.edu (Jerome
Chan) says:
>
>  I was watching David Lettermen last night while doing my laundry and I
>saw this advertisement. It showed Godzilla tromping Tokyo, Mothra, etc
>and then switched over to this huge, grim faced Charles Barklay. The
>advert then switches back to Godzilla, who dons a pair of glasses.
>Something about being settled on Sep 9 was being mumbled. (I was kinda
>sleepy.) And then the words Nike. Was I dreaming?

You weren't. BTW,that's "Barkley",and that's supposedly the Big Rubber Lizard
Suit that Toho's been using for the last Godzilla movie.

The actual showdown between Godzilla and Barkzilla is supposed to be on
September 9th,whatever that means....

      ** Chris Krolczyk,esq.  * DISCLAIMER: My opinions are in **
      ** Maniac-at-Large      * no way endorsed by the Univer- **
      ** U19807@UICVM.BITNET  * sity of Illinois at Chicago.   **
      ** u19807@uicvm.uic.edu * So there. Nyaah.               **
From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Robotech (Macross) and Gobot model info wanted.
Date: 17 Aug 1992 02:29:26 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
Reply-To: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsee.berkeley.edu
Summary: Manufacturors
Keywords: Plamodel
Originator: chiu@ucsee.Berkeley.EDU

In article <1992Aug16.230146.20588@mtu.edu> destill@mtu.edu (DAVID E. STILL) writes:

>	Also, there was a model company who made GoBot models for a while
>(don't laugh, I'm not done yet).  The labels said GoBots, but the Leader-1 and
>Cyclone models (the good-guy and bad-guy leaders) were actually an Alpha plane
>and a cylcone motorcycle, respectively, from the 3rd generation Robotech saga.
>Can someone tell me where I might be able to find these models?  Please, some-
>body help me!

The 'GoBot' stuff were distributed by Monogram, originally manufactured by
IMAI for Mospeda. The other models labeled 'Robotec' (Dugram, Orguss, Macross)
were distributed by Revell. Aside from Macross valkyrie kits that are still
been produced by Bandai (They use the same mold from IMAI and ARII with minor
modification), all other models are out of production. So if you can find
one, consider youself lucky.

IMAI and ARII are still actively producing varies models, but nothing related
to anime anymore. (Last I check IMAI were making airsoft guns)
From: coram@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin C Coram)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: MD Geist from USMC
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:25:48 GMT
Reply-To: coram@ecn.purdue.edu (Kevin C Coram)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1544@tnc.UUCP> m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS) writes:
>
>Thanks for the lengthy response about MD Geist.  You can never tell
>with USMC.  Some of their releases (Project A-ko, Dominion, Gall
>Force) are of high quality, but everything else seems to be no-name
>"B" quality stuff.  I guess it's best to go with what you're familiar
>with.

Drat!  I missed the question AND response.  I got to see MD Geist just prior 
to them putting it out (it's nice that PAC has connections :-) and I enjoyed
it.  It would have been nice to have gotten in on this thread earlier.
Anyone willing to send me copies of the thread so far???

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# I guess, you've just got to have the right ATTITUDE about these things.     #
#	-- Cory Emerson, DP 3.5                                               #
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
From: tzung@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (tzung-i.lin)
Subject: AnimEigo, Miyu LD slight disappointment, UY2 LD?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:07:16 GMT

Well, I know i will get burned by posting "disappointment" ....
  
First, AnimEigo (sp?) and Robert, thanks for bring anime to LD,   
I think this is a great move in anime events in US market.  
Though other people are also doing LDs, but not ina scale as yours.  
  
Secondly, the price.  Well, I bought my copy of Miyu from Sight & Sound  
in Boston, it costs me around $50, I think it's a very good price for   
four episodes of fantastic stories.  It would cost me more to buy  
Japanese LD (though they have slight advantage, CAV :-), but you  
can't argue with $12.5 per episodes)  I hesitated and decided   
not to buy when you first announce its releases for $65.  
I later bought it because S&S offered a very good discount.  
Now, the Bubblegum Crisis is planned for LD with $64 for 90 minutes  
worth of animation, I'll have to pass.  I like the series very much,  
but I simply think it costs too much.  It's unfair for me to compare  
the price to average LD price, but I'm hooked already to  
MGM/UA low-price LDs.  For any disc > $50, I would expect some  
supplemental materials like Criterions or CAV.  

Thirdly, too bad that 5 and 6 are separated in two discs,
I treat them as a same story with part 1 and part 2. And the
story continuity is much stronger than any others in the series.
here is an alternative grouping: part 4 and two MTVs, part 5&6,
part 7&8, how is that?

Lastly, THE disappointment on Miyu LD.  I compared my old and wear-out
tape to the new LD, SURPRISE!  No doubt, the sound is much much
superior on LD than my poor tape EXCEPT the hissing sound
on side 1 (side 2 is not that obvious though), BUT, the picture of LD is
like covered with a thin layer of white silk.  It causes the contrast 
and color to be inferior to the tape!!  It is very noticeable
and very annoying to my eyes.  The comparison reminds me of another
comparison I had with ALIENS pan&Scan LD to LBX special edition LD.
the P&S LD is like covered with a thin white layer while the LBX LD
is crystal clear, giving much more vivid color and contrast.
Why is an old tape has vivid color than a LD? (it's a miracle ...)
Was it due to the subtitling?  Will you improve in the future?

Oh, BTW, any plan to release UY 2 on LD? WHEN???  I would really like
to have a good copy of UY 2 with superb subtitle from AnimEigo.
But please improve on the pressing of sound and picture.

Thanks for your effort!!! (though I gave some "comments" :-)

Tzung-I
From: dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (David C Blume)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: an honest answer would include .. [was: Why is Anime so popular?]
Date: 14 Aug 92 22:25:44 GMT
Organization: Loral Western Development Labs

emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend) writes:
>bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:
>>
>>>No.  If you want technically superior animation, go watch Disney.
>>
>>If you want superior animation in a feature that isn't concerned
>>with holding down a "G" rating, you ain't gonna find it on this
>>continent.
>
>_Rock & Rule_.  If you want to be current, then _Bebe's Kids_' character
>animation is, at worst, still better than the character animation in the
>majority of Japanese animated films.  _Roger Rabbit_.  _Heavy Metal_ has
>a lot of flaws, but its character animation is still better than most
>anime.  _Watership Down_ (though I can't remember if that's a Brit
>production or not...)

OK.  Now I have to plug my own favorite non-anime animated feature...

Fire and Ice.  (Frazetta. Fantasy.  Adolescent plot, fun to watch.)
               IMHO, better than Return of the King, & Heavy Metal.
               On par with Rock & Rule.

--David
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| David Blume            | Minami: "Yeah.  Always, always, always!"         |
| dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com | Kazuya: "Yeah..."   --"Touch" in the KOR Movie   |
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From: lonewolf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Benoy Koshy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Who's the mecha designer?
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 10:23:00 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

jimn@phred.UUCP (Jim Nevermann) writes:

 
couldn't quote your message but...
 
Zeta Gundam Mecha designs are done by none other than Mamoru Nangano 
(sp?).  Of Five Star Stories fame.  As for copyright violations within 
anime I don't think too many animators are worried, as look at Nadia Nemo 
and Macross Gloval, or the spoofs of several anime in Otaku no video.  
I'm sure companies don't really mind that much, unless who stories and 
concepts were stolen.   But really the Bound Doc is pretty minor...and it 
may have been done as a tribute to the original artiist or something...
 
My two bits...

Ben Koshy/Lone Wolf              lonewolf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
President of B.A.K.A.            Banzai Anime Klub of Alberta
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From: emru@CAM.ORG (Emru Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: an honest answer would include .. [was: Why is Anime so popular?]
Date: 18 Aug 92 12:06:34 GMT
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

In article <1992Aug15.073810.15480@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:
>>>If you want superior animation in a feature that isn't concerned
>>>with holding down a "G" rating, you ain't gonna find it on this
>>>continent.
>>
>>_Rock & Rule_.
>    Never heard of it.  Was it trashy/sleazy?  Most American animation I've
>    seen is either sanitized for kids or near-porn.

No, but then it was Canadian. :)  I'd target it at high-school/college level.
It had a limited release in 1982.

And there's quite a lot of kiddie or near-porn (and the occasional outright
porn) from Japan as well, as you know.

>>If you want to be current, then _Bebe's Kids_' character
>>animation is, at worst, still better than the character animation in the
>>majority of Japanese animated films.
>    And the characters are drawn very cartoony and silly.  Okay, you may
>    have me on this one, but I can't be that impressed when the ads I've
>    seen indicate that the art that is being animated is very unsophisticated,
>    thus easier to animate than the worlds you see in anime.

Cartoony and silly is immaterial (what about _Ranma_ or Looney Tunes?).  Try
watching _Bebe's Kids_ - each character has a distinctive way of walking or
carrying him/herself, in accordance to the kind of person they are.  That's
what character animation's all about.  The majority of anime relies on poses
to show a person's character, not animation.

And if you think it's easy - try it sometime (character animation, I mean).

>>_Roger Rabbit_.
>    Is a cute bunny, has live-action, and fails to be G, not through
>    the maturity of the plot, but through some blatant sexual jokes.  

And this isn't true in anime?  (Referring to the lack of maturity in the
plot.)  I readily admit that there's some really good and mature anime out
there, but...

The animation still excels.

>>Why don't people just get with the program?  There's good and bad animation
>>for a variety of reasons on both sides of the Pacific.
>
>Sure there is, but you can wear yourself out finding it over here and
>most of it is fairly old, again, unless you like the cute Disney musicals.
>

Do it yourself.  If you're not so inclined, find a local film/animation
student, and start showing him anime.  Start a fan club.  Get the word out.
BUT instead of bemoaning the lack of said animation here and pointing out
that it's "so much better in Japan", promote the idea that this is even
POSSIBLE in animation.  You'd be amazed at the responses you'll get.  Too
many budding animators don't know what's out there, and will continue to
remain ignorant if all we do is whine.

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Emru Townsend        Fido: 1:167/133        emru@cam.org        BIX:switch
Q:  Do you know what the death rate around here is?    A:  One per person.
From: manga@twics.co.jp
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: price gouging
Date: 11 Aug 92 07:33:07 GMT
Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan

Gene writes:
>I'll admit though, it kind of shocked me when I saw Dominion going for
$100 a tape a few years back at Books Nippon, and one tape that I was
interested in at Books Kinokinuya also went for over $100.  That's
retail in yen converted at their exchange rate to dollars.  Let's face
it, anime doesn't have the distribution set up in this country like
Panasonic or Sony, so it's going to cost more to special order an anime
video or LD.

Actually,
anime tapes are very expensive over here, too.  Most full-length movie
tapes are priced at about 10,000 yen, or $80.  Discounting is very
rare.  Add on postage and  it does start  getting expensive.
Still, I think I can beat a $100 price  for a new tape, and I can often
find titles secondhand.

-bret
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