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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:59:39 CDT
From:         Dave Kohr <drk@MELODIAN.CS.UIUC.EDU>
Subject: Re: Exaggerated bombing statistics?
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It seems like it would be useful to put these figures into perspective by
comparing them to, say, figures for bombing during WWII.  Does anyone know
offhand of estimates of the tonnage of Allied bombs dropped on Germany and
Japan during WWII?

Also, adding the figure for artillery to that of aerial bombing doesn't
seem unreasonable, given that artillery fire also did a lot of damage to
the country (for example, in Hue during the Tet Offensive in 1968).
However, for the sake of accuracy the resulting combined figure ought to be
called "total ordnance expended" or something like that.

Dave Kohr    CS Graduate Student    Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
(Summer) Office: (908)-582-4588	 (no home phone)  E-mail: drk@cs.uiuc.edu
      (Working at AT&T Bell Labs, Murray Hill, NJ for the summer.)
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:14:09 PDT
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject:      PAC: Nuclear Concern
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/* ---------- "JAPAN - PAC/NUKE" ---------- */
JAPAN - PAC/NUKE:  RA,  PACNEWS ED-1,  AUGUST 18 1992

Japan has assured the South Pacific Forum that planned plutonium shipments from
France to Japan do not pose environmental or health threats to the region.

Prime Minister Kiichi Miyazawa has sent a personal written  assurance to the
Forum's Secretary General Ieremia Tabai on the matter.

The letter also offers to reveal specific safety measures.

Mr Miyazawa said the Japanese government fully understood the South Pacific
region's concern over possible accidents during the process.

Environmentalists say they believe that the first shipment of  plutonium from
France to Japan is imminent.

The plutonium has been reprocessed in France from the spent fuel of
conventionial Japanese nuclear reactors and is to be used in a new Japanese
fast breeder reactor for electricity generation. .....ends.

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From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject:      BOUG: More Clashes?
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PNG - TULO - BOUG:  RNZ NEWS,  PACNEWS ED-1,  AUGUST 18 1992

A senior Papua New Guinea government official says he expects hostilities
between government troops and members of the  secessionist Bougainville
Revolutionary Army, to intensify.

PNG's Administrator for Bougainville, Sam Tulo, says two government soldiers
and one rebel have been killed in the latest fighting at Manetai, near the BRA
stronghold of Arawa in the centre of the  island.

Mr Tulo says the latest attacks show that the BRA is targetting food gardens
and supplies for the PNG operated care centres in north,  south and west
Bougainville.

He says such clashes are likely to occur again in the weeks or  months to come
around Manetai and Buin as the security forces draw closer to  the BRA's main
strong points. .....ends.

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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 10:45:30 -0400
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: Vietnamese student killed in racial beating
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08/18

Racial Beating

Copyright, 1992. The Associated Press. All rights reserved.

   CORAL SPRINGS, Fla. (AP) -- Five men were being held without bond Tuesday in
the fatal beating of a Vietnamese college student who was chased down like "an
injured deer" after he objected to a racial slur, police said.
   Luyen Phan Nguyen, 19, a pre-med student at the University of Miami, died
Monday of head wounds suffered when he was chased and beaten outside a party
Saturday night.
   "It started off with some young guy wanting to be a tough guy, and everybody
just got involved," said Detective Jim Milford. "They chased him down like a
hunter chases down an injured deer. It was like a mob scene."
   Someone at the party started making racial slurs, said Sgt. Jeffrey Maslan.
Nguyen said something and the dispute escalated, Maslan said.
   "He was defending his honor," he said.
   Nguyen never emerged from a coma, officials at Broward General Medical Center
said.
   Nguyen's family left Vietnam in 1980 and settled in Coral Springs six years
ago. He had hoped to become a doctor like his father.
   About five percent of Coral Springs' 81,000 residents are Asians, Maslan
said.
   Christopher Anderson, Terry Jamerson, Warren Mills, Michael Primato and John
Liptak were all charged with second-degree murder Monday and were being held
without bond at the Broward County Jail. Jamerson is 20 years old, and the
others are 18.
   Police said they anticipated additional arrests. "We feel the five are the
key players, but there were others that got in a punch," Maslan said.
   Mayor Jeanne Mills criticized those at the party who apparently did not step
in to stop the beating. "That inhumanity is about as upsetting as the beating
itself," Mills said.
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:12:19 -0500
From:         IDKS500@INDYVAX.IUPUI.EDU
Subject:      Malaysian Consulate
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Does anybody know the address and phone number of Malaysian Consulate in
Vancouver, Canada. Please reach me at IDKS500@indyvax.iupui.edu.

Thank you.

Zamzuri
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Organization: Central Michigan University
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:09:17 EDT
From:         Elliott Parker <3ZLUFUR@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Subject:      SG: Nat. Information Infrastructure (fwd)
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=======================  Forwarded  Message  ===========================
From: Thomas J. Hacker <hacker@citi.umich.edu>
To: nris@merit.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 12:04:12 EDT
Subject: Oh brave new world (fwd)

Forwarded message:
From dave Tue Aug  4 08:38 EDT 1992
Date: Tue, 4 Aug 92 08:38:57 EDT
From: Dave Bachmann <dave@citi.umich.edu>
Subject: Oh brave new world
To: staff

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Date: Tue 28 Jul 1992 10:34 -0400
From: Bob_Frankston@frankston.com
Subject: 21st-Century Singapore

>From "World Press Review" quoting "China Daily", Beijing [!]:

The government of Singapore has announced a plan to link all households
through grids of fiber-optic cables that will allow high-speed exchanges of
text, sound, video and other media.  The project called the National
Information Infrastructure (NI), will also include a wireless communications
network to give mobile-computer users access to information services.  The
NII is part of Singapore's drive to become a world leader in information and
communications technology, which officials see as the backbone of
21st-century economies.  Towards this end, all citizens 18 and older have
been issued identity cards that allow government ministries and other bodies
to cross-index information about them.

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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:29:03 EST
From:         IIBARAT@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Subject: Re: Malaysia Embassy in United State

Does any one know whether Canada has a consulate in Chicago or the nearest
midwest city(ies)? if so, would you like to provide me with address and
phone number too?
thanx in advance

my email address: iibarat@ucs.ind


alex

                  iibarat@iubacs
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:39:00 CDT
From:         HASANAH SJACHRANI <SJACHRAN@WISCMACC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Malaysia Embassy in United State

>Subject: Malaysia Embassy in United State
>
>   I am looking for a list of addresses and telephone numbers of Malaysia
>embassy in U.S. Anyone out there who has a current list, I would
>appreciate if you could send me that list. Thank you !
>
>
>
>                                             Chon Yean Ooi

You could find it in the Washington D.C. telephone book. And you can
get any big cities'  telephone books either at University Library
(usually Reservation Room) or Public Library. Good luck.

Sjachrani
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:39:18 -0400
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: Local police reveal foreign tourist agencies peddling
              sex in VN
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08/17

LOCAL POLICE REVEAL FOREIGN TOURIST AGENCIES PEDDLING SEX IN VIETNAM

BANGKOK (AUG. 17) DPA - A Vietnamese police weekly has revealed that at least
40 foreign tourist companies, many of which are involved in sex tours, are
operating illegally in Vietnam.

''Sex tours are now the name of the game for these foreign tourist companies ''
said the latest issue of the Cong An Thanh Pho, or City Police, weekly
magazine, made available in Bangkok Monday.

The magazine charged that, ''foreign and local partners have closely cooperated
with each other in this business, so each foreign tourist will have a young and
beautiful Vietnamese girlfriend accompanying him throughout his tour from the
time he arrives at the airport until he gets on the plane to leave Ho Chi Minh
City.''

Some 180,000 foreign tourists have visited Ho Chi Minh (formerly Saigon) in the
first half of 1992, according to the weekly. Vietnam first opened its doors to
western tourists and trade with non-communist nations in 1987.

Many tourists are handled by unauthorised foreign tour companies, in
collaboration with Vietnamese partners.

City Police mentioned Oceana Tour (Hong Kong), UC Travel (Hong Kong), Sara Tour
(Germany) and Saigon Tour (Canada) as being among these unlicensed operators.

In terms of sex tours it noted that most ''pleasure seekers are Asians from
Hong Kong, Taiwan, Thailand and Singapore.''

In the same issue, under the title of ''Lady in a Bag - How to traffic Girls
across Hotel Doors'', the magazine described how four western tourists had
recently attempted to smuggle a Vietnamese prostitute into their hotel room by
concealing her in a large bag.

The ''bag girl'' was discovered by a security guard at the Van Canh Hotel, in
Ho Chi Minh City, as one tourist was carrying his precious luggage up to his
room.

''Obviously, since recently the People's Committee has ruled that foreigners
are not allowed to take girls into hotels, these foreigners had to manage to
traffic her into their rooms in such a way,'' concluded the police weekly.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 11:26:11 -0400
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: 4 VN firms opt out of privatisation plan
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08/13

FOUR VIETNAM FIRMS OPT OUT OF PRIVATISATION PLAN

    HANOI, Aug 13, Reuter - Four of the seven state companies that Vietnam
recently assigned for limited privatisation as part of its economic reforms have
asked to be withdrawn from the pilot project, a report in an official newspaper
said.
    The four firms -- the Southern Detergent Factory, the Thong Nhat match
factory, the Hai Hung materials supply company and the Long Binh sawmill -- gave
different reasons for bowing out, Tuoi Tre newspaper from Ho Chi Minh City said
in its August 8 issue, received in Hanoi on Thursday.
    Hanoi announced in June plans to corporatise the seven firms as part of its
free market economic reforms. The seven, identified by the council of ministers,
were to be partially or wholly privatised after modernising their corporate
structure.
    "Vice minister of finance Phan Van Dinh said the ministries governing these
four enterprises had second thoughts about their readiness and qualification for
corporation," Tuoi Tre said.
    The newspaper said the match factory had opted out of the pilot project
because it was busy working on a new joint venture with a foreign company, while
the others wanted to settle some financial or production problems first.
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:41:22 -0400
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: VN, Laos say Cambodia peace plan must work
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08/17

VIETNAM, LAOS SAY CAMBODIA PEACE PLAN MUST WORK

    HANOI, Aug 17, Reuter - Vietnam and Laos have urged all sides to implement
the United Nations peace plan for Cambodia, warning that violations could
threaten stability in the whole region, the official Vietnam News Agency
reported.
    Vietnam and Laos wanted to see a peaceful, independent and non-aligned
Cambodia, the agency said, quoting a joint statement issued at the end of a
visit to Laos by Vietnamese Communist Party General-Secretary Do Muoi on Sunday.
    The two countries urged scrupulous implementation of the
 peace plan for Cambodia reached in Paris last October.
    "They hold that any violation of any provisions of that agreement would
undermine the process of peace and national reconciliation in Cambodia, and
threaten peace and stability in Cambodia and the region as a whole," the
statement said.
    Under the U.N.-sponsored plan, the Phnom Penh government and three guerrilla
groups have formed a national reconciliation council, while U.N. peace-keepers
are trying to disarm the warring factions and organise elections.
    But the Khmer Rouge, the most powerful guerrilla group, has refused to
disarm and commit its troops to cantonments.
    Before being ousted by invading Vietnamese troops in early 1979, the extreme
radical Khmer Rouge was responsible for the deaths of a million Cambodians
during its four-year reign of terror.
    The joint Vietnam-Laos statement made no direct reference to the Khmer
Rouge.
    The Khmer Rouge accuses Vietnam of keeping large numbers of troops in
Cambodia. U.N. peace-keepers have found no evidence of this.
    Vietnam and Laos said they would continue to cooperate with the U.N. plan.
    The two governments, emerging from isolation, also expressed "profound
satisfaction" at the development of their relations with China and Southeast
Asian countries.
    Hanoi and Vientiane had taken an important step towards building better
relations with the six-member Association Of Southeast Asians by acceding to
ASEAN's treaty of amity and cooperation in Manila in July, their statement said.
    Accession to the treaty is a first step towards eventually joining ASEAN,
which comprises Brunei, Indonesia, Malaysia, the Philippines, Singapore and
Thailand.
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 10:19:02 -0400
From:         Nhan Tran <tran@PEORA.SDC.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      NEWS/VN: VN launches 1st tax on land use, housing
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08/14

VIETNAM LAUNCHES FIRST TAX ON LAND USE, HOUSING

    HANOI, Aug 14, Reuter - Vietnam's communist government published details on
Friday of its first tax on land use and housing, introduced to boost state
revenue and build a modern system of taxation.
    Official newspapers said the law was meant "to improve state management of
construction and occupation of houses, to encourage organisations and
individuals to economise on use of land...and mobilise contributions of
home-owners and users of land and real estate for the state budget."
    Vietnam's constitution says all land belongs to the state, but Hanoi
launched agricultural reforms in the 1980s enabling farmers to take up long-term
leases.
    Rice production, which had been low under the earlier state farm
cooperatives system, shot up under the reforms.
    The land tax takes effect on October 1. The text said the government would
not yet collect the tax on houses, but gave no details. It also did not specify
the amount of tax to be levied on land or home-ownership.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:36:15 EDT
From:         mulliner@OUVAXA.UCLS.OHIOU.EDU
Subject: Re: Malaysia Embassy in the U.S.
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                   Ohio University Electronic Communication


   Date:  14-Aug-1992 08:26am EST

     To:  Southeast Asia Listers               ( _MX%"SEASIA-L@MSU.EDU" )

   From:  Kent Mulliner                              Dept:  Library
          MULLINER                                 Tel No:  614-593-2707

Subject:  Re: Re: Malaysia Embassy in the U.S.


	The message from Michigan Technical University (I
presume) asking about embassies in San Francisco errs.

	Each country only has one embassy at most in a country,
usually in the capital.  In the U.S., most countries also have a
mission to the U.N. in New York.  Other offices representing a
government are usually called consulates (or consulate generals
in large cities).  For the United States, these are all listed
in a U.S. Department of State Publication, FOREIGN CONSULAR
OFFICES IN THE UNITED STATES, which is available in most
academic libraries with a government documents collection and
in larger public libraries.  The most recent issue that I have
is September 1991.

For Malaysia, they list (in state alphabeticla order):
Los Angeles, Suite 400 World Trade Center, 350 S. Figeroa,
	phone 213-621-2991
San Francisco, 2 Embarcadero Center, 26th Fl. ph: 415-421-4627
Honolulu, First Hawaiian Bank, ph 808-525-8144 (honorary)
New York, 140 East 45th Street, 43rd Floor, ph 212-490-2722
Portland, 6144 S.W. 37th Ave., 503-246-0707 (honorary)

	K. Mulliner, Ohio University Library
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:04:48 PDT
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject:      BOUG: Compensation Demands
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/* Written 11:03 pm  Aug 20, 1992 by PACNEWS@f990.n900.z90.pegasus.oz.au in
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/* ---------- "PNG - COMPENSATION" ---------- */
PNG - COMPENSATION:  NBC/PNG,  PACNEWS ED-1,  AUGUST 19 1992

Members of the South Bougainville Resistance Group, fighting  alongside members
of the Papua New Guinea security forces, are seeking compenseation from the
National governmnent.

The Resistence Group, known as the South Bougainville Interim  Authority Law
Enforcement Agency has written to Port Moresby claiming their members have been
killed or injured in clashes with the Bougainville Revolutionary Army.

In the letter, the Group says the government's efforts to restore  peace to the
South Bougainville area would be impossible without their support, and as such
must be compensated for their injured and dead.

The letter signed by Issac Konnei and Francis Kamual which includes details on
deaths and those injured, will be submitted to  authorities.

The Resistance Group is made up of former members of the BRA who  since the
beginning of this year begun working with PNG security forces. ....ends.

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 04:03:12 PDT
From:         "Indonesia Publications/Task Force" <apakabar@IGC.APC.ORG>
Subject:      PAC: No Nuke Tests Vote
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/* Written 12:05 am  Aug 13, 1992 by newsdesk in cdp:ips.englibrary */
/* ---------- "SOUTH PACIFIC: REGION WELCOMES U.S." ---------- */
Copyright Inter Press Service 1992, all rights reserved.  Permission to re-
print within 7 days of original date only with permission from 'newsdesk'.

Reference: North America
Title: SOUTH PACIFIC: REGION WELCOMES U.S. SENATE VOTE TO LIMIT ATOM TESTS


sydney, aug 10 (ips) -- the south pacific forum (spf) monday
welcomed last week's vote by the united states senate to limit and
eventually halt u.s. underground nuclear testing.

in a statement issued in the fijian capital of suva, spf
secretary-general ieremia tabai said the regional grouping warmly
welcomed the move and expressed hope that u.s. president george bush
would comply with the senate's vote.

the u.s. senate had overwhelmingly agreed last monday to suspend
u.s. nuclear weapons testing for nine months, limit tests for the
next three years and eventually end all tests by 1996.

''(the senate) action is an endorsement of the position of the
south pacific leaders on nuclear testing amply reiterated by the
recent 23rd forum in honiara solomon islands,'' said tabai.

in the honiara communique in july, regional leaders welcomed
france's decision to suspend nuclear testing in the region and urged
other nuclear powers to follow their lead and eventually ban all
nuclear tests.

the suva-based south pacific forum includes 13 south pacific
island nations plus australia and new zealand.

france, which has underground nuclear testing facilities in its
south pacific territory in mururoa atoll, announced a suspension of
its 26-year-old testing programme in april, but said it would review
its decision pending the response of other nuclear powers.

the environmental group greenpeace, which had long campaigned for
an end to french nuclear testing in the pacific, also welcomed the
u.s. senate vote.

greenpeace's pacific campaigner noni keys hailed the senate
proposal as a step in the right direction, but said it should be
fast-tracked as there were no obstacles to an earlier end to nuclear
testing.

''this vote gives strength to the french and russian moratoria
and sends a clear message to president (francois) mitterrand and
president (boris) yeltsin that their halt on testing has brought the
world closer to the goal of a complete test ban,'' she said.

greenpeace is also urging the australian government to press
washington to heed the senate vote. ''foreign minister sen evans
should immediately begin high-profile efforts to negotiate a
comprehensive test ban treaty,'' said keys. (end/ips/ks/ln/92)
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:45:18 EST
From:         IIBARAT@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Subject:      Take my account off

Dear Administrator:


please take my account off from the listing.
I have bean enjoyed so far your news. Thank you very much


sincerely
alex
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