HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: csfraw@vehka.cs.uta.fi (Elvis is still living)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: WORLD or TRANSATLANTIC ?????
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:34:36 GMT
Reply-To: csfraw@vehka.cs.uta.fi (Elvis is still living)
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

>> SAO PAULO F.C became the world champion by defeating Barcelona F.C.
 >>here in Tokyo 2 x 1. Rai (who is former Brazilian player Socrates'
   

Is'nt it funny that most of the world wonder why the USA name their national
baseball finals the world series , and yet we choose to call a match between
the european champions and the south american champions, the world championship
.It is simply absurd. They may be the best in the world but they will have to
prove it by beating the Asian,African and Australian champions. Let it be 
organized like the world cup before it is given that name, otherwise it can
just as well be called the "Transatlantic championship".

Imagine if Leeds played AC Milan and called it the european cup, i guess most
of us will go bunkers................



--
gallows
     Opinions are like assholes;
     Everybody has one but nobody wants to look at the others.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: engjs@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (James Smith)
Subject: League cup question
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:24:31 GMT

Has the 4th Round League Cup tie between Scarborough and Arsenal
been played yet?  If so, what was the score?  If not, when will
it be played?  When will the three replays be played?

Thanks in advance.

Jim
-- 
James J Smith             | "I couldn't get over it. All these women
School of Engineering     | in the world...and under their clothes
Newcastle University      | each and every one of them was naked, you
engjs@cc.newcastle.edu.au | know..." -- Psycho-killer, "Sandman"
From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Pau update
Date: 19 Dec 1992 04:50:32 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

The last I saw was Pau leading Division 3 group Centre-Ouest with 20 points
out of 14 matches. They were one point ahead of Brive and had one match in 
hand.

BTW, Saint Brieuc are playing in Group Ouest.

Cheers,
Kent
-- 
+---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
| Kent Hedlundh             | Les Girondins pour une place Europeene en 1993! |
| Dept. of Computer Science | France and Sweden for the WC'94!                |
| University of Umea        | All the best for my friends teams!              |
| S-90187 UMEA     SWEDEN   | E-Mail: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se     IP: 130.239.96.17  |
+---------------------------+-------------------------------------------------+
               "It's always good to talk soccer!" - Marco Petroni
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cs141049@cs.brown.edu (Hok Chung Tsang)
Subject: Re: top ten teams in the world
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:43:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.080028.6458@ugle.unit.no>, pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune) writes:
|> In article <31037@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com>, nmuller@ems.cdc.com (Nelson Muller) writes:
|> |> In article <9DEC199214454020@jane.uh.edu>, math1pu@jane.uh.edu (Douglas Luo) writes:
|> |> |> Here is my top 10 teams in the world:
|> |> |> 
|> |> |> 1.  Argentina
|> |> |> 2.  Holland
|> |> |> 3.  Italy
|> |> |> 4.  Germany 
|> |> |> 5.  Brazil
|> |> |> 6.  Russia
|> |> |> 7.  England
|> |> |> 8.  France
|> |> |> 9.  Cameroon
|> |> |> 10. Sweden
|> |> |> 
|> |> |> The best midfielder of all time will have to go to Diego Maradona.
|> |>                                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> |> 
|> |> You must be too young not to have ever seen Pele play.  Gi'me a break,
|> |> I'd rather have one Pele in my team than 2 Maradona.
|> |> 
|> |> |> 
|> |> |> 
|> |> |> Doug
|> |> 
|> |> -- 
|> |>
|> |> Nelson Muller
|> 
|> Remember one thing:  Pele played 20 years ago, while Maradona is a player of today, in a much
|> tougher football environment.  Therefore, Maradona is the player of all times.
But then remember, You are talking about the best midfielder of ALL TIME. In 
                                                                ^^^^^^^^
order to say that, don't you have to compare with the standard of their 
respective time too? Moreover, even if they are playing on the same field 
today (given the Pele twenty years ago) Pele will still outperform Maradona.

DOUGLAS TSANG

|> 
|> --
|> 
|> Per Annar Sandaune
|> Trondheim, Norway
From: nmuller@ems.cdc.com (Nelson Muller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: DREAM TEAM
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:28:54 GMT
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <1992Dec10.125804.6894@gw.wmich.edu>, 988fernandez@gw.wmich.edu writes:
|> my best dream team is:
|> 
|>                         1  PAGLIUCA
|> 
|>       2 MANNINI   5 VIERCOWOD  4 BARESI   3 MALDINI
|> 
|>    7 LOMBARDO  6 CORINI  10 MANCINI   8 DONADONI  11 LENTINI
|> 
|>                          9 VIALLI
|>                          
|>  
|> 
|> 
|> this is for me the best italian national team = DREAM TEAM

Only in your dreams this team will beat any European or South American team.

|> 
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> by "FORZA SAMPDORIA"

-- 
=======================================================================
Nelson Muller                    |   e-mail:        nmuller@ems.cdc.com
Empros Systems International     |   scream-mail:   (612) 553-4694
2300 Berkshire Lane North        |   FAX:           (612) 553-4018
Plymouth,MN  55441-3694          |
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
                     I don't speak for my employer.
                     In fact, no one speaks for my employer.
                     Not even my employer.
=======================================================================
From: cf124@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Claudio Ruggieri)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: top ten teams in the world
Date: 14 Dec 1992 07:42:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cf124@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Claudio Ruggieri)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, pasand@Mari.Unit.NO (Per Annar Sandaune) says:

>
>Remember one thing:  Pele played 20 years ago, while Maradona is a player of today, in a much
>tougher football environment.  Therefore, Maradona is the player of all times.
>
>--

	Tougher football environment (I really doubt about this) does
not make players better. On the contrary, I believe many good players
just loose their potential to fit into today's very defensive and, I
would say, not so beatiful soccer. Besides, who told you that during
the Pele era soccer was not tough? There were so many good players
at that time that it would be very difficult to name the second
best in the world. Just try to watch a match between Brazil and England
or Santos and Internazionale (just to mention a few) at that time.
Maradona is a good player but I think it is too much to say he is
the best player ever when Pele scored more than 1300 goals, was
three times world champion for Brazil, two times world champion for
Santos and was magic with a soccer ball. If you don't believe me,
get some videos and look by yourself. You won't get disappointed.


-- 
Claudio Ruggieri                     !  Cerimonial Tea : 
Faculty of Engineering               !  Just boil the water,
Osaka University, Japan              !  make the tea and drink it.
email: a62420a@center.osaka-u.ac.jp  !  That's all !!!
From: jscosta@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Joseph Costa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: AC MILAN - BENFICA Tickets?
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:12:53 GMT
Organization: The Great Beyond


  Can anyone tell me who to call about tickets for the AC Milan vs.
Benfica match next July in Foxboro? Thanks in advance, and

FORZA MILAN!!!
Joe Costa
From: mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: European Superleague
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:50:36 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1992Dec10.084438.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> In article <1992Dec9.174615.7190@st-andrews.ac.uk>, dmg@st-andrews.ac.uk (David Gill) writes:
>> Fynns Plan from last year:
>> 
>> A Premier Division containing 10 teams:
>> 
>> England:  LeedsU          <========== Dont think so !!!
>> France:   Marseille
>> Germany:  Bor. Dortmund
>>           Stuttgart
>> Holland:  PSV
>> Italy:    Milan
>>           Juventus
>> Portugal: Porto
>> Spain:    Barcelona
>>           Real Madrid
>> These are the teams that would have been in the League if it had
>> started this season. Of course the teams chosen when the league
>> starts will be different(eg if Rangers win the EC1 this year then
>> they would get maybe Englands place or one of the German places in
>> the Preimier Division).
> 
> What gives an English club the right to automatically claim a place ? 
> Maybe cos its the Best League in the World ?  England are miles behind
> the other European countries. Dream on.

exactly!

leeds united ahead of Ajax or Benfica?!!

you must be joking!

> 
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>                                        +
> Sandy Mackinnon,                       + 
> At the Cutting Edge of Fuel Science,   + 
> University of Strathclyde,             +      cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk 
> Glasgow,                               + 
> Scotland.                              +  
> 	  	                       +
> =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
-- 
 
   -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
  |  john bell   ||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||   F  O  R  Z  A           |
  |  102 Roods   ||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||                           |
  |  kirriemuir  ||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||     M  I  L  A  N  !!!!   |
  |  scotland    ||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||                           |
  |              ||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||@@||                           |
  |  e-mail :  mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk.dundee institute of technology         |
  |                                                                       |
  |  may gazza get both his legs broken tomorrow...........               |
  |  i follow dundee and hate Juventus and Internazionale..........       |  
   =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Everton Vs Bayern Munich in 80'sr
Date: 20 Dec 1992 13:44:46 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  
> Can anyone tell me some detail informations about a European Cup Winners'Cup
> game between Everton and Bayern Munich in 198?  ?

1984-85. Cup Winner's Cup semi final.
Bayern Munich 0  Everton       0.
Everton       3  Bayern Munich 1.

> Also, Bayern was the EC1 winner in 1976.  Therefore, it should enter the EC1 
> competition automatically in 1977.  And the EC1 winner of 1977 was Liverpool.
> My question is if Liverpool met Bayern in that competition. If so, what is the
> result?  If not, who beat Bayern in that competition?

Bayern lost to Dynamo Kiev in the quarter final (1-0, 0-2).
Kiev then lost to Borussia Monchengladbach in the semi finals.

> Did Liverpool beat Bayern or Juventus in history???

Liverpool beat Juventus in the first round of the 1965-66 Cup Winners Cup
(2-0, 0-1).

Liverpool beat Bayern Munich in the 1970-71 UEFA Cup quarter finals (3-0, 1-1)
and in the 1980-81 Champions Cup semi finals (0-0, 1-1 Liverpool won on
away goals).

Liverpool also lost to both of these clubs, to Juventus in the 1985 Champions
Cup final and to Bayern in the 1971-72 Cup Winners Cup second round.

--
Donie Collins     | Philips Research Laboratories (Natuurkundig Laboratorium). 
                  | Eindhoven. The Netherlands.
 /    /     /     | Dept : CAD Support. Building : WAY. Tel : +31-40-744091. 
Donal O Coileain  | e-mail : collins@prl.philips.nl  SERI : collins:nlwaya01
From: flamengo@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Lourenco William Dantas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: New Soccer Newsgroups
Date: 12 Dec 1992 07:05:09 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu


        I really feel that this newsgroup needs some breaking down,
        since there are too many posts.
        I am suggesting subdividing this newsgroup into a couple different
        categories, such as:
                * one for European teams, for those who wish to discuss
                  the English, Italian, etc. soccer leagues.
                * one for those who would like to discuss rules and
                  that aspect of the sport.
        This would leave the main newsgroup for discussing international
        competition, such as the World Cup.

        Please post your comments and suggestions about this topic in order
        to get a general feel for what the subscribers' think would make
        things a little more organized and easier around here. 

        Thanks for any input.

        LOU (flamengo@wpi.wpi.edu)
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Rangers Match Report (Unoffishul version)
Date: 10 Dec 92 09:09:47 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster


European Champions League Round 2
=================================

CSKA Moscow 0       Rangers  1   (Ferguson)


	In anticipation of the offishul match report from Scott, here
are a few words from last nights game.  Overall it was an excellent  display
by Rangers although there were a few anxious moments.  In about 15 seconds, 
CSKA broke away and nearly scored only for Steven and then Robertson to
clear the danger.  Thereafter Rangers settled a bit but CSKA continued to
threaten. In 13 minutes, Hateley challenged the goalkeeper, who looked
very poor throughout, and as the ball broke, Hateley poked it to Fergie
who hammerred in a shot for the only goal. It seemed to take a few 
deflections going in but after not seeing a Rangers goal for 3 months,
who cares !!  CSKA had a lot on the 1st half play but Goram never had
any serious saves to make and Gers defence looked composed.  In the second 
half, Rangers had most of the play  and should have
tied the match up long before the end. Durrant in particular missed a 
sitter. True to form, the Russians broke away in the dying seconds only
for John Brown to produce a brilliant tackle to force a corner.  Overall,
an impressive performance and the score should really have have been
3-0.  CSKA looked dangerous on the break but never threatened for long
enough periods.  Best for Rangers were Miko, Ferguson, Hateley and Brown.
Next Euro game is against Bruges in March in Belgium.       Marseille looked
very impressive in beating Bruges 3-0 and still remain favourites to reach the 
Final.  Who knows though ??


Rangers Team,    Goram, Steven, Robertson,  Brown, McPherson, Durrant, McCall,
Ferguson, Miko, McCoist, Hateley.


-- 
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                                       +
Sandy Mackinnon,                       + 
At the Cutting Edge of Fuel Science,   + 
University of Strathclyde,             +      cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk 
Glasgow,                               + 
Scotland.                              +  
	  	                       +
=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: chris@tetris1.sbil.co.uk (Chris Lee)
Subject: Re: Rivals (or, who do ya hate?)
Reply-To: chris@tetris1.sbil.co.uk
Organization: Salomon Brothers, Ltd.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 13:52:02 GMT

Liverpool may hate Manchester United ...
Small Heath Works Second XI may hate the wondrous Villa (pure jealousy really) ...
Bristol Rovers probably hate Bristol City (and vice versa) ..
I even believe Celtic hate Rangers ...

But one thing everybody agrees on:

WE ALL HATE ARSENAL

Surely Ian Wright is just a particularly nasty piece of work in a team of nasty
pieces of work.

Up the Villa!

Pip Pip

Chris
-----
From: dc@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Daniel Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Gresley make the big time
Keywords: Gresley Rovers
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:04:29 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

Well, hardly, but they did manage to make the big print - a minor
headline in the sports pages of the Daily Telegraph yesterday. I
quote Ben Findon (alias for Garry, perhaps:-)))

Gresley stay on course
**********************

Gresley Rovers, beaten in the FA Vase Final two seasons ago, are homing
in on Wembley again after yesterday's fourth-round draw.

Their reward for a 2-1 success at Burnham on Saturday is a visit from
fellow Beazer League Midland Division side Bridgnorth Town on Jan 16.

Gresley, beaten in a replay by Guiseley in 1991, went out at the fourth
round stage against Newcastle Town last season.
From: dmg@st-andrews.ac.uk (David Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: European Superleague
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:18:10 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews

In article <1992Dec10.084438.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Dec9.174615.7190@st-andrews.ac.uk>, dmg@st-andrews.ac.uk (David Gill) writes:
>> Fynns Plan from last year:
>> 
>> A Premier Division containing 10 teams:
>> 
>> England:  LeedsU          <========== Dont think so !!!
>> France:   Marseille
>> Germany:  Bor. Dortmund
>>           Stuttgart
>> Holland:  PSV
>> Italy:    Milan
>>           Juventus
>> Portugal: Porto
>> Spain:    Barcelona
>>           Real Madrid
>> These are the teams that would have been in the League if it had
>> started this season. Of course the teams chosen when the league
>> starts will be different(eg if Rangers win the EC1 this year then
>> they would get maybe Englands place or one of the German places in
>> the Preimier Division).
>
>What gives an English club the right to automatically claim a place ? 
>Maybe cos its the Best League in the World ?  England are miles behind
>the other European countries. Dream on.
>

Why do all these Scots keep claiming that the English league is the best in 
the world? It probably was 10 years ago (6 European Champions in 
succesion) but it certainly isn't now. On this years form its not
in the top 5 of Europe. Thats why it would loose its place in the 
Premier Division of the EuroLeague if it started next season.

The reason Leeds would have started in the Premier Division this year is 
that when the plan was drawn up (about a year ago) English clubs had just had
a good year in Europe.



>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>                                       +
>Sandy Mackinnon,                       + 
>At the Cutting Edge of Fuel Science,   + 
>University of Strathclyde,             +      cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk 
>Glasgow,                               + 
>Scotland.                              +  
>	  	                       +
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
From: isc10113@nusunix1.nus.sg (ONG CHOON SENG)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Liverpool vs Blackburn
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:48:59 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


Kenny maybe a great boss but he leave Liverpool when it is in trouble.
So how is it.  Souness maybe not as tactical as Kenny but he came to the
rescue when Liverpool needs someone to lead.  Souness show your best.


ps : has been a great fan of Kenny till he left Liverpool when it needs
him most.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: andy@rocky.ndhm.gtegsc.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Question About European Winter Breaks
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:01:14 GMT

I was wondering of someone could inform me what the teams do during winter
break.  I figure the internationals might use this time to practice together
but what about the rest of the players.  Do they still have daily practices
or do the managers use this time to watch all of their younger talent that
is is lower divisions?  And how long are some of the breaks?  I would guess
they are a little different for each country.

Thanx in advance.

Andy
From: Staalebj@dh.halden (St}le Bjerkeng)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: NORWAY
Date: 12 Dec 92 12:13:56 GMT
Organization: odh
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A74F964E8502219C@pc156.dhhalden.no>
X-Xxdate: Sat, 12 Dec 92 13:14:54 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9

Can't aynone write somthing about the norwegian soccer!

I'd really like to hear what opinion the other countries have about 
the norwegian soccer.


St}le.
From: cedars@mtliban.Corp.Sun.COM (Fixed Assets - Corp. Finance)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: testing
Date: 16 Dec 1992 19:50:55 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: cedars@mtliban.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: mtliban.corp.sun.com


this is just a test! thank you.
From: bocmunro@bnr.co.uk (Bruce Munro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: The World's Best Football Players : UNBIASED OPINION.
Date: 15 Dec 1992 14:59:03 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.
NNTP-Posting-Host: bnsgs179.bnr.co.uk

In article <GRC.92Dec15134738@bhars109.stl.stc.co.uk> grc@stl.stc.co.uk (Gary Cook) writes:
>
>Although I am a big fan of Dutch football .....
>
>Mmmm .... Not many British players here .... Oh yes, Mischa doesn't
>think too highly of British football at the moment .... still it's a
>good job this is not a *biased* view .... 
>AND ... where's Van Basten then ??? having a holiday ?????
>
>Here's MY choice :-
>
>   Goalie :   Brian Stokes (Hartlepool 8th team,Britain)
>   Defence :  Ian Botham (ex-Scunthorpe Utd, Britain)
>              Anton Rogan (ex-Celtic,Britain)
>              Jim Loose (Harlow U13 reserves, Britain)
>              Mischa Bronstring (Philips Supporters Vlub, Holland) *
>   Midfield : Bob Willis (Warwickshire, Britain)
>              Deanette (Deano) Dennings (Uxbridge Handicapped Ladies, Britain)
>              Gary (Gazza) Grimethorpe (Batersea Dogs Home 2nd team, Britain)
>              Mr. Ploppy (Crinkley Bottom, Britain)
>   Atack :    Arthur Pewty (Monty Python, Britain)
>              Marco Van Basten (AC Milan, Holland)
>
>   Coach : Jim van Rental (Hertz, Britain)

Hmm, not bad. Though I'd be inclined to drop that Van Basten geezer back
into midfield or central defence. After all, his recent international form
has shown that he couldn't score in an Amsterdam brothel with a million
guilders wrapped round his knob end!

As this is a British hoof and hope style outfit, move Bob Willis up
front where his long swerving runs from deep and his height will be
more than a match for any defenders.

-- 
Bruce Munro.  <B.Munro@bnr.co.uk> || ...!mcsun!uknet!bnruk!B.Munro
BNR Europe Ltd, Oakleigh Rd South, London N11 1HB. | Note the change
Phone : +44 81 945 2174 or +44 81 945 4000 x2174   | of e-mail address.
"There are no strangers, only friends we don't recognise" - Hank Wangford
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: bootsma@fys.ruu.nl (Timo Bootsma)
Subject: Turkey-Holland
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:26:24 GMT

WC Qualifier in Istanbul:

Turkey-Holland 1-3 (0-0)

57' Van Vossen 0-1
59' Gullit     0-2
60' Feyyaz     1-2
87' Van Vossen 1-3

att. 22000

Lucky win for the Netherlands...

Also:
 
Brazil-Germany 3-1 (2-0).

timo.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer