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From: swesterback@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi (Sten Westerback, Nokia Telecommunications, FINLAND)
Subject: Re: Memory limits in windows 3.1
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:48:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.184034.1@vax1.umkc.edu>, edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu writes:
> In article <9212081628.AA08894@jupiter.Sun.CSD.unb.ca>, Chris Newton <u0xh@JUPITER.SUN.CSD.UNB.CA> writes:
>> I would like to know how many Mbytes windows 3.1 can manange in
>> enhaced mode with swap file permanent. I hear something saying only
>> 16M. Thats is the true? Is realy useful with a 486 with 8M?
>> 
>>         I have a 386-33 with 8 Megs, and Windows tells me that I can have a 16 M
>> eg
>>  permanent swap file.  I set it to 12 Megs, to save hard drive space however.
>>  So in effect I have 20 megs of memory, so there is definately no limit, at
>>  least not at the 16Meg range.
>> 
>> Chris

I have also heard that the warning that a too large swapfile wouldn't be 
used by Windows 3.1 is incorrect.
> 
> 	However, in most instances 8mg is plenty with windows. I have 8mg and
> have plenty of room left over. I would say unless you are a power user, that
> permanent swap file Chris is wasting your hard drive space and slowing your
> windows down somewhat. 
Well, for example Mathematica for Windows needs about 10MB for it's kernel
(permanently locked?) and some more for the Windows interface. And you 
might want to copy/paste an picture from Mathematica to WinWord!
At my home computer i have 16M but i still have a 3 M PERMANENT swapfile...
just in case i need it!

Sten
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 11:20:14 EST
From:         CDICKERS <cdickers@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: heim.sys problem

I've just bought a 386 with wp51, mswindows and wpwin. The wp51 works
fine, but when I try to get to windows I am told the heim.sys is not
installed or incorrectly placed in the config.sys. I've tried everything
I can think of the fix this to no avail

Any and all advice will be greatly appreciated.

TOM GRIEP
FACN335 AT SAUPM00
KING FAHD UNIVERSITY OF PETROLEUM AND MINERALS
DHAHRAN, SAUDI ARABIA

Put your config.sys and autoexec.bat here and I'll tell what I can!!

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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 11:24:18 EST
From:         "NATHAN BRINDLE" <NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Windows is LAME...

Don't blame the list, blame the network*--it's not a function of the list
to check who sent the mail unless SEND=PRIVATE.  And even if it were,
you can't tell from the header whether a message is genuine or faked.
I could go into a long discussion of how LISTSERV protects list headers
and other list documents from forged messages but this isn't the proper
forum.

Thankfully there are few jackasses who do this sort of thing.  The only
way it could be caught would be for the list to be changed to an edited
list, and I don't think the listowner would care to go to that trouble,
considering the bulk of mail that passes through the server.

The worst part is that all the retorts to the message probably didn't
even get read by the forger--because the forger probably isn't subscribed
to the list.

* Sorry, "network" should read "network and the mailer".

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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:49:28 -0500
From:         Benny Galliher <bgallihe@NCDC.NOAA.GOV>
Subject: Re: ProComm Plus for Windows

I think you need to edit the pif and set if to open full screen instead of
a window.
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:27:03 CST
From:         Bob Lowe <BOBL@VM1.UCA.EDU>
Subject:      HSC Interactive (Multimedia Software)
              16 Dec 1992 12:06:16 -0500 from <hatzm%venus.dnet@GTE.COM>

Hello!
    Has anyone had any experience with MS HSC Interactive?  Does it have the
same capabilities as Authorware, ToolBook, HyperCard, etc.?  What do you like
about it?  Dislike about it?  Please respond to me directly as I haven't seen
any discussion on this list regarding HSC Interactive.  Thanks in advance.
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:11:00 CST
From:         Bernstein_Phil@LANMAIL.NCSC.NAVY.MIL
Subject:      RE: SLOW SCSI IN WINDOWS

You need the Adaptac SCSI driver ASPI4DOS.  I think the software that
includes this driver is ASW1410. At least that is what adaptec told me.
They also told me they will soon be releasing a new driver called Eaasy
SCSI that will include the ASPI4DOS driver and CD ROM support using the
1542B controller card.  I use an old version of the driver (4 years).
My throughput without the driver is 1400 with the driver it drops to
about 1000.  The 1000 number is consistant in DOS or WINDOWS.  I had the
same dramtic result when I used the /DOUBLE_BUFFER.  I have dumped
SMARTDRIVE and now use NORTON CACHE with an Adaptec driver.
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:38:30 EST
Comments:     Resent-From: NATHAN BRINDLE <NBRINDLE@INDYCMS>
Comments:     Originally-From: Morten Innselset <VEI92001@NOBIVM.BITNET>
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From:         "NATHAN BRINDLE" <NBRINDLE@INDYCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Slow SCSI disk in Windows 3.1 Enh mode

>On Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:45:49 EST NATHAN BRINDLE said:
>>Seriously, folks ought to do a <little> research before posting replies
>>like Wael did.  Telling someone to delete SMARTDRV from their CONFIG.SYS
>>because it also shows up to be executed in AUTOEXEC.BAT could potentially
>>cause the poor questioner a LOT of trouble.
>
> Could you please tell us what kind of trouble you expect from stopping
> a file from being loaded twice? I just deleted mine, and could see no
> apparent problem. But maybe there will be....?
>
> Morten
>
That's my point.  I <don't know>.  Note above I said <potentially>.  If
SMARTDRV has been caching in double_buffer mode for SCSI all along, it
may not take too well to not double buffering anymore.  I would be afraid
of corrupting my data or losing it altogether if I were to delete something
from the startup configuration that SMARTDRV needs when it is running.

I see a lot of "advice" come across this list that too much of the time ends
up being refuted by someone who knows better.  All I'm asking is that people
take a little more time with their answers and make sure they know what they're
talking about before they post.  I didn't post a solution; I posted a warning
based on a feeling that Microsoft wouldn't set you up that way unless there
was a reason.  I know that's not always the case :) but I'm leaving well enough
alone.  Maybe someone from Microsoft ought to jump in here and give us an
explanation?

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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:28:02 EST
From:         rgleason@LEGENT.COM
Subject:      Re: Query: WindowCraft

> From: CDICKERS <cdickers@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
>
> Come on folks. We gotta quit copying the Apple people. Windows RULE! (NT yes
> I know NT!)
>

Windows does not rule when compared to a Mac.  I really don't want to get into
 this religous discussion, but a PC with DOS/Windows cannot even touch a
 Macintosh.  In terms of training, support, ease of use, hiding most of the
 ugliness of the operating system, Mac wins hands down (IMHO).  This is given
 from a perspective of a person wanting to use a tool to do work and not work on
 the machine.  If you like to tweak and tinker thousands of options, stay with a
 PC.

chow, Rog     rgleason@legent.com
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:57:21 EST
From:         Doug Cutler <UNCDWC@UNCVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Re[2]: UPGRADE
              15 Dec 1992 09:48:03 -0500 from <BBHULSEY@LIFE.UAMS.EDU>

On Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:48:03 -0500 Wile E. Coyote said:
>
>Please pardon my ignorance, but I'm not sure I follow this.  Isn't this
>external cache external to the chip itself, i.e., on the motherboard?  Please
>feel free to reply direct as this is getting off the Windows track a bit.
>
  It may not be Win-3 but it is of much interest to one person who is in
the market for a machine to run Win on.  Please keep discussion on the list
if possible ( or cc: me)


  Doug. Cutler                       Office of Information Technology,
  VM Systems Programmer              University of North Carolina.
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From:         Dr A Thomson <bsa002@CENTRAL1.LANCASTER.AC.UK>
Subject:      Importing HPGL files into WORD for Windows 2.0b

A colleague has just installed Word for Windows 2.0b on his machine. He is
constructing a document which involves import of HPGL graphics. Whereas
in ver 2.0a import was virtually instantaneous and gave exactly the
expected result, the 2.0b version takes ages, puts up a message with the
conversion process and, worst of all adds substantial top and left margins.
Is it OK to put the old converters in?
or is there something wrong with his setup?

Alan Thomson
Lancaster University
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:37:02 -0500
From:         Steve Stern - GE/AIT BI-North <SMSTERN@C5VT.SYR.GE.COM>
Subject:      Windows Font Problem

Hi,
I am running Chameleon NFS under Win 3.1.
When I open a Telnet session and try to change the font
using Setting/Preferences/Terminal Font, I have
the following problem:

Not all the Windows fonts show up in the selection
box (not a problem, there are enough monospaced
fonts to choose from).  However, for the fonts
that do show up, the True Type fonts only allow
me to select one size - 37 point - which is way
too big for a terminal window.

I don't have this problem with any other program
(Word, Excel, etc.).  Any suggestions?

Steve Stern
GE Aerospace
Syracuse, NY
smstern@c5vt.syr.ge.com
From: gb03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (GEORGE PHILIP BLUHM)
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Subject: Re: 486sx/dx
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:41:34 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <9212151516.AA00608@sol.acs.uwosh.edu>, wightman@SOL.ACS.UWOSH.EDU (B
rian T. Wightman) writes:
>Hi All,
>
>My understanding of the difference between the 486sx and dx (from third
>party discussions, not from actual research or reading, so it may be
>in error) is that the sx is a dx that did not pass the coprocessor
>tests.  In the same discussion it was stated that the failure rate in
>these tests could be as high as 70 percent.  By selling the chips as
>a low end 486 (ie, 486sx), B. Gates and Co. is able to recoup what
>would otherwise be losses.
>
>This is just what I heard, and may not be totally accurate; please no
>flames, just let me know where I am incorrect  :)
>
>Just putting my $0.02 in.
>
>Brian T. Wightman
>
>wightman@vaxa.cis.uwosh.edu
>wightman@oshkoshw.bitnet
>

What has Gates got to do with intel ??????????????

Phylee THEE MacNasty
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:00:26 EST
From:         CDICKERS <cdickers@IUS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re[2]: Windows is LAME...

'Twould be interesting to see what Mr. Gates thinks of someone forging
mail in his name...too bad it's so easy to do.

oooo-e poooo-e !!!!

Tell me how!?

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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:31:16 GMT
From:         Peter Ivan Quill <IQUILD92@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>
Subject:      Re: How do I start Windows 3.1 ?
              16 Dec 92 15:57:33 GMT from <BRIDEC92@IRLEARN.UCD.IE>

>I seem to have a problem |
>I don't know how to start Windows 3.1 |
>I have tried everything :
>    win3.1
>    win3
>    windows3.1
>    windows3
>    windows.*
>
Tell himto look for the exe and to check that its in his path statement
and wht am I tellin you this......you know this already!
How goes

See pmail is up

Ivan
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:35:44 MEZ
From:         Dierk Lucyga <RZLUCY@NYX.UNI-KONSTANZ.DE>
Subject:      Re: ** Full Page Scanner OCR Software that is Trainable?

The best trainable OCR-Software I know of is ProLector. Beats OmniPage
anytime and anywhere...

/Dierk Lucyga
From: yl01@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Yi-Der Lee)
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Subject: Re: How do I start Windows 3.1 ?
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:06:22 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <WIN3-L%92121607134217@UICVM.CC.UIC.EDU>, VEI92001@NOBIVM.BITNET (Joe
rn Morten Innselset) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>I seem to have a problem |
>I don't know how to start Windows 3.1 |
>I have tried everything :
>    win3.1
>    win3
>    windows3.1
>    windows3
>    windows.*
>

Yo...   Try "win" or win;".   Have fun!

-- 
-ydl

yl01@ns1.cc.Lehigh.edu
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From: heilbron@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Stephen Heilbronner)
Subject: Comm program that "emulates" MNP5 (or V42bis) in software
Keywords: MNP V42 comm terminal file transfer
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:57:05 GMT

 Hello,

I'm looking for a good comm program that can emulate MNP5 in 
software. It should run smoothly under Windows 3.1 and should have no
quirks concerning the use of non-US keyboard layouts.

A true DOS program would help me, too, (I already have MTE), but it
should have some file transfer protocols (I'd settle with ASCII since
MNP5 handles error correction).

Public domain or shareware software would be preferred.

Thx very much in advance,
Stephen Heilbronner			heilbron&informatik.tu-muenchen.de
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:07:00 PST
From:         "Virginia R. Hetrick" <IARGRAF@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Hypercard substitute under Windows

You might take a look at Macromind's product which will, as I under-
stand things, convert a HyperCard stack to a Windows Multimedia
presentation.  They also have several products for creating the
Windows equivalent of HyperCard stacks.  Take a look at any of the
usual periodicals (PC Mag, Byte, etc) for companies that sell
these.

HTH.

virginia
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Date:         Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:37:26 -0700
From:         Ken Shaw <kens@CATSEQ.CATLIN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Windows is LAME...

On Mon, 14 Dec 1992 bgates@MICROSOFT.COM wrote:

> My friends....
>
> Microsoft windows in lame....
>
> thanks, but QUIT wasting your money on it!
>
> Bill Gates

        I'd love to find out how this person managed to send this with
the unusual address!  If you have any ideas you are willing to share,
please write.

                                -Ken
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:38:07 AST
From:         Luciano Barragan UCV <lbarraga@CONICIT.VE>
Subject: Re: Object Orientated - Me too...
              Dec 17, 92 7:35 pm

        I am also interested. Maybe it's a good idea to upload it to
some hosts (for example: cica).

        Thanks.
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:07:09 -0500
From:         Joe Morris <IS480P02@WCUVAX1.WCU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: How do I start Windows 3.1 ?

Date: 16 Dec 1992 14:32:25 +0100 (CET)
From: Espen Haakonsen <FGL92016@NOBIVM.BITNET>

>What ?
>
>Joern |   You gotta be kidding |  You don't knoe how to start Windows 3.1 ?
>
>I have seen your former letters to this list. They reveal that you posess great
>knowledge on Windows. Are you drunk or something ?
>                      Maybe a hangover, huh ?

Sonds like someone has already had a little too much egg nog!

Joe
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Date:         Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:04:11 EST
From:         HYEATTS@VTVM1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: english dictionary
              14 Dec 1992 03:47:11 +0800 from <yshwang@UZ.NTHU.EDU.TW>

On Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:47:11 +0800 . said:
>Does anyone know any English dictionary on windows system?
>

We have the American Heritage Dictionary for Windows. It's made by
WordStar (believe it or not) and it's a hot program. Very quick,
very efficient, and very flexible.

Nice thing about it, too, is that they included macros for a couple of
other programs (like WPWin) so you can call the dictionary
from within the program (like from a button on the button bar in WPWin).

Splendid example of programs working together.

There is a version for DOS, and I've heard that there will be (or
already is) one for the mac.

hth

Harry Yeatts (HYEATTS)                INTERNET: VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
Virginia Tech                         BITNET: VTVM1
Blacksburg, Virginia                  PHONE: 703-231-5141
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 10:23:10 DNT
From:         "Hans D. Jensen" <DFMHDJ@VM.UNI-C.DK>
Subject:      Re: DLL for TDW

The super VGA driver package for Turbo Debugger for Windows that I
have uploaded to CICA in /pub/pc/win3/uploads/svga.zip is originally
from the Borland C++/WIN forum libraries on CompuServe (GO BCPPWIN).
SVGA.DLL is a generic super VGA driver; there is a large .ZIP (>500k)
with board specific drivers in the same place.

Hans D. Jensen
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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 13:26:56 EST
From:         "Joseph T. Malloy" <jmalloy@ITSMAIL1.HAMILTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Virus?? HELP
              Haakonsen" at Dec 16, 92 4:35 pm

> I have just installed Windows 3.1 on my machine (a PC), and it starts
> just allright, but the light for the hard drive keeps blinking all the
> time, and it is VERY slow. It takes over a minute to load windows,
> and almost as much to load word. I have a 386 with 16 megahertz.
> Have I got a virus? Is there a virus remover for windows?
>
If you have, say, only 1MB RAM, this could easily happen.  You're seeing
a lot of hard disk activity as Windows uses a permanent or temporary
swap file (virtual memory) on the hard disk.

If you have 4 MB or more of RAM, then this should happen only when
you've opened up more than a few apps.  It's normal, in that case, and
if your hard drive is slow, well, there's not much you can do about it
except for trying to add more RAM.

If you've got plenty of RAM and it's still happening, try starting
Windows in standard mode (win /s) and see how things are.  I believe
standard mode windows won't use virtual memory...

I doubt it's a virus, but it doesn't hurt to check for a virus using any
one of the available PD, shareware, or commercial virus checkers out
there.

Good luck!

Joe
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