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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 12:08:10 EDT
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From:         Bill Kuntz <BILL@LIBRARY.HEALTH.UFL.EDU>
Subject:      Accounting info from the bindery
X-To:         novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu

Hello netters...

We run a student lab with approx. 4000 login names and use the Novell
accounting to limit them to X hours per month.  People are always
asking how much time they have left.  We are familiar with using
Syscon, but that takes a while to load with 4000 users.

Does anyone know of a program that will check to see how much money
is left in an individual account, preferrably able to be run by a
user without supervisor privlidges.

Thanks, Bill


Bill Kuntz             Internet: Bill@library.health.ufl.edu
                       Phone: (904)392-3854
Systems Assistant-
University of Florida Health Science Center Library
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 09:15:55 PDT
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From:         Francis Yeung <Francis.Yeung@ENG.SUN.COM>
Subject:      public domain ipx source
X-To:         NOVELL%SUVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu

Is there a public domain ipx source code available ? I like to build a freeware
to route ipx packet amony various media e.g. ethernet, arcnet, token ring
, localtalk and serial interface for remote login (similiar to PPP).


	fyeung@eng.sun.com
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 09:35:23 +1000
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From:         Stuart Kemp <stuart@CORAL.CS.JCU.EDU.AU>
Subject:      capture problem: FormFeed in separate job
X-To:         novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu

Novell 3.11 (100 User), latest pserver

Problems with 'capture' (ti=6, byte stream, adding formfeed)

We are using 'capture' with Lotus123, and are explicitly adding a form-feed
(coz 123 does not do this). All is okay if there are only a few users
printing, but not so good when many print jobs are generated.

Looking at the print queue, it shows the 123 print job, but it appears that
a *separate* job is generated for the appended FormFeed (well, actually
there are 19 bytes in the file; haven't looked at 'em yet).  When many users
print there is no guarantee that this FormFeed job is immediately in the
queue after the 'main' job, so it is possible to get things printed in (say)
the following order:

    User1_Job, User2_Job, User3_Job, User1_FF, User2_FF, User3_FF

This totally defeats the object of appending a FormFeed in the first place!
Even better is you print banner pages ... you get one for your FF job.
What a bargain!!

Why is a separate job generated for the FF alone, instead of simply
appending it to the 'main' job? I consider this to be a bug!! What do you
think? Anyone got a solution to this?

-SRK
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:01:38 BST
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From:         OBSchou <O.B.Schou@LUT.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Reselling old software

> >According to the Novell Network Products Software License:
>
>         {Legal stuff}
>
> >Transfer of License.  You may transfer this License to another person or
> >entity if You obtain the prior written consent of Novell.  If Novell approves
> >the transfer of License, You agree to transfer all copies of the Software
> >and Documentation, including any copies or adaptation you have made."
>
> Wow. Thats what I get for not reading the envelopes that software comes in. Is
> this true? You can not re-sell a copy with out Novell's approval? Well you
> could sell the sofware just not the license to use it. Digital did this for a
> long time on their software (VMS). You could sell a machine but then the new
> owner would have to purchase a new copy of VMS for the machine. They then said
> that the copy of VMS (if the machine had one) could be relicensed (for free).
> Is Novell really interested in making us purchase software and then never be
> able to get rid of it if we change our minds? Or is it that if we just ask
 they
> will transfer the license?


Its the legal eagles that put all that in.

The original question was about selling (e.g) Netware  that had been
upgraded.  The key is the word UPGRADE.

Suppose yopu upgraded your car to have spoilers, additional headlamps:
You cannot practical;ly sell the redundent parts.

When you bought Netware (with Educational discount?) and then upgraded
it, you may end up replaceing all the software, but you have not bought
another copy of Netware.

One question I do have for Janet - What can we do with Netware, bought
with educational discount, which may or may not have been upgraded, but
which is now redundant (eg Netware V2.15A)?  We do have "commercial"
arms of the University (eg doing research contracts, for real money)
who want to use Netware, and we have the "surplus", but can we pass it
on?

Bertil.
From: relee@acpub.duke.edu (Robert Lee)
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Subject: Re: NETWARE 3.11 & BROADBAND CARDS
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:46:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.2290
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <26MAR92.11681640.0012.MUSIC@NMUMUS> Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET> writes:
>We are attemping to utilize some older full length broadband cards in
>a network running Novell 3.11.  We are able to start the server and
>load the module for the ISA disk.  We can load install, partition the
>disk, create and mount the volume SYS and load the system and public
>files.  Then we have problems.  The manual indicates that the Netware
>supports the broadband cards with the LAN drivers PCN2 and PCN2/A.
>When we try to load the LAN driver we get a message...
>
>"Unable to find load file PCN2.LAN"
>
>The PCN2/A driver would indicate that it is for an IBM micro-channel
>machine which we don't have.  If fact, after searching the disks for
>the LAN drivers, we found only one which has a similar name. This
>file is PCN2L.LAN and when loaded indicates that it is for the
>baseband LAN card not the broadband cards we have.
>
>
>Is there a current (3.11) driver for these cards?  Where can we get
>it?  Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Curtis Jay, STCJ@NMUMUS.BITNET
>Microcomputer Maintenance
>Northern Michigan University

Unfortunately your older broadband card IS NOT an IBM PCN II. The older
cards (IBM PCNs) were made for IBM by Sytek. My Sytek documentation
calls them model 6110. Sytek also made a model 6120 and 6130. When IBM
started making PS/2s, they switched manufacturers for their broadband
cards, and thus the PCN II and PCN II/A were born. Novell's 3.X drivers
work only with the PCN II series. Sytek does sell a 3.X driver kit for
the 6100-series cards, but I'm not sure it will support a 6110 in the
server. The Sytek and Novell 3.X drivers use different frame types, so
you can't mix and match new and old cards in your network. Since you
don't seem to have any PCN II cards, this would not be a problem. If you
do, email me and I'll suggest some possible fixes. [If anyone else has
questions, I'll post to this group.]

Sytek was purchased by Hughes Electronics and is now called Hughes Lan
Systems. Their phone number is (415) 966-7300 in Mountain View, CA.
There are two products that you would be interested in:

	1)	LINC/PC		-This provides the workstation ipx

	2)	HLS Drivers	-This provides the NW 3.X drivers.

Each is available as a site license for under $100.

Robert Lee 	relee@acpub.duke.edu
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:23:58 MST
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From:         "Flint Waters" <FLINTW@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      IPX/SPX for SCO
X-To:         NOVELL%SUVM.BITNET@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

Does anyone know of a company or product that will allow Open Desktop
to run IPX/SPX and allow the DOS emulator to access Novell servers
as a client?
We would like to export an X-client that would allow our Decstation
users to access the packages on our Novell network.




Flint Waters         aka:  flintw@corral.uwyo.edu
Systems Programmer,  University of Wyoming
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:37:45 EST
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Comments:     Originally-From: "Matthew Lessins" <MLESSIN@WAYNEST1.BITNET>
From:         VILLIELM@SNYNEWVM.BITNET
Subject:      heavy-duty printers

Matt Lessins wrote:
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Hi.  We're thinking of getting some HP RuggedWriters for our
student access labs here on campus.  Is anyone using them out there
and would like to share their opinions with me?  Thanks...
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

We tried an HP Rugged Writer 480 as a lab/classroom LAN printer.
The output quality and speed were very good, but we found the
cover hinge mechanism to be flimsy (it broke within 6 months),
and there were several paper jams per month.  The tractor guides
didn't actually "lock down" like they do on most printers, which
I think contributed to this.  On the other hand, when we moved that
printer from a moderate/heavy use LAN to a light use mainframe,
its performance was excellent.

For our heavy dot matrix printing, we went with TI 8900s.  They've been
in use here for two years, rarely jam, have decent ribbon life, and
decent speed & quality.  These are 9-pins, where the HP was a 24 pin.
All our dot matrix printers run off Intel Netports, which were a bit
quirky at first but seem much better since I did the 2.10 flash
update (available from Intel's BBS, 503-645-6275).

For our heavy laser printing, well, we just evaluated our first IIIsi
in our 24-PC journalism lab.  Compared the the old DEC LN03 we used
to have there, this printer has been a godsend!  (you know it's good
when an agnostic gets stirred up enough to use words like godsend..)
We're ordering one for each of our large labs, even as I write this.

Bob Villielm, Programmer/Analyst
SUNY College at New Paltz
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 11:06:56 -0400
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From:         J_PASSEN@UNHH.UNH.EDU
Subject:      File server won't boot
X-To:         novell%suvm.bitnet@pucc.princeton.edu

Hi all,

I just tried to add an appletalk (Ethertalk) network to my Novell file
server.  It seems my server does not have enough memory to load all the
MAC support it needs.  My server will no longer boot...it just freezes and
says: ATALK ERROR: readzonefile - No memory for zone list entry.  and then
freezes.  I have to reboot the server, but it keeps freezing at the same
point.  How do I get my server to come back up (with or without the
appletalk...I don't care)

thanks, Jeff
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:42:10 CDT
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From:         "Kenneth D. Ray CRC OCIS" <XRAY@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Metering (forward)
              1 Apr 1992 09:18:00 LCL from <DKEARNS.TCC@KLAVEN.T CI.COM>

On Wed, 1 Apr 1992 09:18:00 LCL Dave Kearns said:
>> There are some rumors that future versions of Netware will provide
>>built-in metering services. Wouldn't that be nice.
>
>Novell is currently investigating built in metering, in co-ordination
>with Mr. McCann. If you are interested in seeing this functionality built
>in, it would be best to let Novell know of your interest.

Great, I'd love to see it...
Let me get in my $0.019999.
What discurages me most about the metering software that I've seen
is the lack of a good Report generator.  (Sitelock will only list
all log in and outs, for instance, and Saber, although it does have the
great idea of saving its data in a DBASE file, it does not report
anything valuable.)  What the boss wants to know is things like
Peak use(number of users) per software per unit time,
average number of users per day
total hours the program was used (for those of us that have users that
like to explore, and log 1 minute on each software)
Number of denials,
(basically things that would be helpful for the boss to deturmine
if more software or for that matter if the correct amount of software
has been purchased.)

I realize this is a lot to ask of Novell, and is only a suggestion,
I would like to see them take the route of Saber and not Sitelock, by
giving the administrator access to the raw data.
(any body out there willing to write a DBASE widget that will
do the above accounting?)

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 09:14:51 -0700
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From:         AHONDA@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      Mac Classic and Ethernet
X-To:         novell%suvm.bitnet@pucc.princeton.edu

Hello Netters.
	As anyone hook up a Mac Classic to a Ethernet network?  We have a
Novell 3.11 with twisted pair.  What cards did you try?  And how is the
Classic working on the network.

Thank you in advance.

Alan Honda

CSUDH
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 13:45:41 EDT
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From:         Larry.H.Bradley@NRC.CA
Subject:      Re: Running Windows 3.0 over ODI
              14 Apr 1992 12:40:00 BST from <CENCTG@VAXB.HERIOT-WATT.AC.UK>

RUN, do not walk, to your nearest purveyor of Windows, and get the
3.1 upgrade. Do not bother to install 3.0. Win 3.1 and Netware
actually seem to work rather well together.

Win 3.1 comes with new ODI stuff for Novell ... use it.

I HATE Windows, but at least 3.1 is usable. I didn't think 3.0 was.


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Comments:     Resent-From: Colin St Rose <CSRCC@CUNYVM>
Comments:     Originally-From: Bill Chapman <billc@HOUSING.MSSTATE.EDU>
From:         Colin St Rose <CSRCC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Paradox 3.5 on Novell.

Bill
    Like programing there are many solutions, try this one on for size.
Take a note of the node address (unique NIC address) ie. 0122c322e.....
then in the system Login script add the following statements.

if P_STATION = "0122c322e..." then map root c:= f:userprivatearea1
I hope you get the idea. If you don't I will elaborate. e-mail me.


 /Colin St Rose   "Networks are my life, I live everywhere!"
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
I have been using drive C:\NET as the User's private directory.  Now we have
two stations without hard drives.

How do I set it up so each user has a private directory on the network drive?


--
Bill Chapman <BillC@Housing.MSState.edu>   (601) 325-2042
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Dept. of Housing & Residence Life          Mississippi State, MS  39762
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:52:46 EDT
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From:         "Robert H. Lafond" <LAFOND@PUCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Using SMC (WD) Elite 16 cards with tcp and ipx

On Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:32:00 MDT Joe Doupnik said:
>>The problem is that I want to do the same thing for the PC's with the SMC
>>cards.  I got the packet driver from SMC, and PDIPX from clarkson.
>>PDIPX totals ignores the packet driver and complains.  If I skip
>>the ipx part and just try to access the packet driver with kermit,
>>it too fails to find thew driver.   Is there anyone out there that
>>is actually using a packet driver and shared ipx driver with the
>>SMC 8013 elite 16 card?  If so, could you please send me a copy
>>of the packet driver and ipx driver and any config files needed?
>>Brian Utterback
>>utterbac@husc.harvard.edu
>-----------------
>Brian and others in this fix,
>        The problem is a simple one: the SMC supplied PD (as shown above)
>is BROKEN. I mentioned this a month or two ago on the net. It works fine
>with IPX and with only FTP Inc's stack, but it refuses to work with more
>common IP packet TYPEs needed today. I spent time on this testing the thing,
>and discovered the too narrow range of applicability their contractor did for
>them. It should be discarded and pass the message back to SMC to fix it.
>Instead use the regular Crynwr Packet Driver. I'll skip the jokes and say
>that WD80x3's are about The most popular Ethernet boards out there, and folks
>use Packet Drivers by the hundreds of K's. Anon ftp to wsmr-simtel20.army.mil,
>or mirror at wuarchive.wustl.edu, or even to netlab2.usu.edu, and grab the
>Crynwr Collection driver.
>        Joe D.


      Today, I learned how to use the SMC packet driver 8003pkdr.exe
      with ipx and netx.  The key is to generate an SMC specific ipx
      with SMC's latest driver 4.0 (and not to use the BYU ipx). Run this
      ipx *before* 8003pkdr, which then senses the ipx and hooks into it
      allowing multiple stacks.  This solves a problem we have had
      lately: the Clarkson WD packet driver *not* working with SMC/WD
      boards.

Robert H. Lafond                        lafond@pucc.princeton.EDU
Computing and Information Technology    609-258-2526
Princeton University
Princeton, New Jersey 08544
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:50:41 CDT
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From:         "Kenneth D. Ray CRC OCIS" <XRAY@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Backups
              7 Apr 1992 09:11:17 EST from <bill@PICASSO.OCIS.TE MPLE.EDU>

On Tue, 7 Apr 1992 09:11:17 EST Bill Swartz said:
>  Instead of TAR-ing them from the PC side, why not do it from the MAC side.
>  There are PD TAR programs from the MAC -- and the interface is nicer. Just
>  my .02 worth.
>--

would you mind suggesting some and how one would mount an IBM
as9000 mainframe to one for quick file transfer...

 -Kenneth Ray  Xray @ ricevm1
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From:         dave <TCHODGD@VCCSCENT.BITNET>
Subject:      Help with a new server

Trying (unsuccessfully) to bring up a N-386 3.11 server. The details:

Server - 486 33 EISA (WIN) 8mb. ram.
Drive - Segate 676mb SCSI (Netware ready)
Controller - Adaptec 1740 (Standard mode)
NIC - NE 3200 IRQ 5 (level triggered interrupt)
BIOS 486 Modular Bios 4.01 (Award)

Error message:

Abend: General Protection Processor Exception (Error code 00140000)
Running Process: Initialization Process.

I'm concerned. When the machine arrived there was no ECU file.  When
the ECU file came and was run it automatically selected to setup under
Phoenix BIOS?

All suggestions appreciated

Dave Hodge               <tchodgd@vccscent.bitnet)
Systems Librarian
Tidewater CC
VA Beach, VA
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From:         Raymond Everly <REVERLY@UCS01.CFR.USF.EDU>
Subject:      Where is the Internet mirror site for Netwire?

I thought I heard about a place that had all the Novell contributed
stuff on Netwire.
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:38:00 EST
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From:         Gregory Jewett <JEWETTGS@SNYPOTVX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Mac Classic and Ethernet

Date sent: 16-APR-1992
>
>Hello Netters.
>       As anyone hook up a Mac Classic to a Ethernet network?  We have a
>Novell 3.11 with twisted pair.  What cards did you try?  And how is the
>Classic working on the network.
>

You can not hook the Mac Class ic up to the Ethernet with an interface card,
becuase no slot is available.  You must use a SCSI Ethernet interface.

Look into Asante, or Fallon products.    ..Greg

**  Gregory Jewett  -  Consultant/Programmer  -  Bitnet: jewettgs@snypotvx  **
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 18:16:00 LCL
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From:         Dave Kearns <DKEARNS.TCC@KLAVEN.TCI.COM>
Subject: Re: Gateway 486 as Server(Procomp eisa dcb)
X-To:         NOVELL <NOVELL@suvm.acs.syr.edu>

>Currently using a Procomp MDCB SCSI adapter -- a Procomp EISA card is
>on order (should be here in 2 weeks).

Mine were due in two weeks ago. So far, all I have is excuses.
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