From: dburnett@emunix.emich.edu (Don Burnett)
Subject: Re: A4000 graphics
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 15:01:41 GMT

In article <Bvy0GF.1BA@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>In article <54565@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct9.120923.24835@ifi.uio.no> nilsco@ifi.uio.no (Nils Liaaen Corneliusen) writes:
>>>I have followed the "Avoid the Amiga 4000" debate and would like to have the
>>>following questions answered:
>>>Fact: All old screenmodes will be shown with scanlines/flicker because the
>>>the A4000 has no flickerfixer.
>>
>>	Sorry, but you have not followed the discussion carefully
>>enough.  This is NOT a fact.  Old screenmodes automatically get promoted
>>to non-interlaced or scan-doubled modes.
>>
>>	The ONLY exceptions are programs that break the programming
>>rules and directly specify these screens.
>>
>>	And somebody just wrote a hack that even promotes these screens,
>>and mentioned it in comp.sys.amiga.misc.
>
>   It still does not work with all programs, particularly games.  And for that
>reason it still locks you into purchasing a monitor than can sync all the way
>down to the 15Khz modes.
>  
  Well, none of these games run in interlace mode any way and most people
  see them/remember them with scanlines anyway, is that a real detractor??

>   As I have said, the real fundamental problem with the A4000 is that it 
>does not give you the freedom to choose just the right monitor that you get
>with an A3000.  I looked through a Computer Shopper last night, going through
>all of the ads that list monitors and their specs.  I could only find one
>multisync monitor that could sync down to 15Khz.  One ad listed 38 monitors
>and only one could sync to 15Khz -- and that was an EGA monitor, which could
>only sync to 15Khz.  Another ad listed 20 multisync monitors, and none could
>sync to 15Khz.  I am not saying that no other multsync monitors exist that can 
>sync to 15Khz, as I am sure they do.  But you will have a very difficult
>time finding them.  By comparison, with the A3000 you have the freedom of
>being able to choose between about a hundred times as many monitors to find
>the one that is just right for you.
>  
  That is nice but that still doesn't make this a negative thing... Most 
  people buying the machine will buy the Commodore monitor, or smart 
  people will find used monitors from PC owners wanting a higher syncing
  display.. The fact is if you go down to 15Khz you stay "NTSC" video
  compatible.. This means that you can access a lot of things, like the
  A2300 genlock (which sends out a combined video/amiga screen onto 
  any 15Khz rgb monitor) which is great for multimedia purposes.. I don't
  see these PCs or monitors even taking this into consideration..


>   If Commodore or a third-party company or an independent hacker can come up
>with a software-only utility which will allow you to use a VGA monitor on an
>A4000 with as few problems as you get when you use a VGA monitor with an
>A3000, then I promise to formally withdraw all of my comments about the A4000
>needing a display enhancer.

 Who needs you to withdraw anything, you made a valid observation that many
 non-Amiga people will see as a product objection for not buying this 
 wonderful machine, unless they get a full explanation.. It's good to see
 this as early as it is in the marketing ballgame.. Maybe there will be a
 "OS FIX" that Commodore puts into future 3.0 release...

=DonB=

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