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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Connection to Pathworks file service without using windows file mgr
From: MARK@OJC.COLORADO.EDU
Date: 25 Jan 1993 11:27:06 -0700
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        Hi Everyone,
 
        Does anyone know if there is a way thru Microsoft windows to connect
        to a network file or disk service without having to use the file
        manager?  What we'd like to be able to do is create a windows batch
        file that would make the connection to a service, run the application,
        and disconnect from the service as soon as they exit.
 
        We're demo/testing a shareware package called winbatch, but the nearest
        thing I can come to using it is to have a macro that opens the file
        manager, makes the connection, closes (or minimizes) the file manager
        depending on whether it was already open or not, and then runs the
        application.  It seems like this is a lot of extra stuff to go thru...
 
        If I need to, I could probably write a program thru Visual Basic - if
        there are functions to connect to network services...
 
        What we're doing is converting from a DOS-based menuing system that
        uses batch files to MS Windows...  We have batch files that look like
        the following:
 
                USE H: \\node\application
                WP/NT...
                USE H:/D
 
        Ideally, we'd like to use the same batch files, but since you can't
        issue the use command in the batch file, we need to find a way to
        make the connection, and disconnect from windows before we execute
        the DOS application.
 
 
        Any one have any ideas or suggestions?  Any help would be greatly
        appreciated...
 
        ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        ~       Mark Allen              | Internet: MARK@OJC.COLORADO.EDU ~
        ~       Computer Programmer C   | DECNET:   OJC::MARK             ~
        ~                               ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
        ~       Otero Junior College                                      ~
        ~       La Junta, CO 81050              Curiosity killed the cat, ~
        ~       (719) 384-6830                  but for a while there I   ~
        ~                                       was the suspect.          ~
        ~                                               - Steven Wright   ~
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Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: houseman@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (Carl Houseman)
Subject: Microsoft mail -> SMTP gateway -> Pathworks Mail
Organization: UVA. FREE Public Access UNIX! 
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:35:15 GMT

WE have some people using Microsoft Mail on a Novell network.  The plan is
to install the Microsoft SMTP gateway on a PC and send messages to Pathworks
PCs via SMTP to the VMS server.  Amazingly, MS-Mail's SMTP gateway software
notices binary attachments and automatically uuencodes them into the message
(according to the documentation).  Pathworks also uses uuencode for binary
attachments, but it can't automatically recognize a uuencode section without
the "^B^B^B$$$ BINARY ATTACHMENT" line just prior to it.

Does anyone know if MS-Mail follows the same convention for flagging the
uuencoded part of its SMTP messages?  Our SMTP gateway software is still on
order to I can't test this yet.

thanks!


Carl Houseman
houseman@hopper.acs.virginia.edu
GENICOM Engineering
703-949-1323
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Remote PC/Mac Upgrades
From: Maria Rosa Drake <MARIA@SERVAX.FIU.EDU>
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:08:53 -0500
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Hi,
 
I just read in 'Digital News and Review' about the upcomming Pathworks
versions and I came up with several questions about upgrading:
 
        1.- How do you upgrade local boot clients to new versions
            of Pathworks without actually going out and working on the
            microcomputer? How do you do it for DOS, Windows and
            Macintosh clients?
 
        2.- How do you upgrade remote boot clients?
 
        3.- How do you handle software upgrades, ie WordPerfect,
            Lotus, when settings/preference file formats change and
            current setting files cannot be used?
 
        4.- How do you handle setting up users for new applications
            or utilities? Assume you have 200 users and you have
            just installed Paradox, WP Presentations and 4 more
            applications for use by those 100 users. Keep in
            mind that you have a large variety of hardware to support:
 
                - 8088, 80286, 80386 and 80486 based systems.
                - CGA, MDA, Hercules, EGA, MCGA, VGA, SVGA, XGA, 8514, ...
                video boards and monitors.
                - Large variety of printers: dot matrix, inkJet, laser,
                color; PCL based and PostScript based.
 
Ideally, I would like to do all this work from my desk!!!
 
Thanks for your suggestions,
 
Maria Rosa Drake
Florida International University
Miami, FL
Bitnet:         Maria@SERVAX.BITNET
Internet:       Maria@SERVAX.FIU.EDU
From: karin@zach.fit.edu (Karin Nicholson)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: LaserWriter identity crisis
Date: 26 Jan 93 21:43:09 GMT
Followup-To: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

Howdy fellow netters,

I have been having a problem with a LaserWriter IIg on an Localtalk and
Ethertalk network which users in my VAXcluster environment are printing
to through Pathworks.

Background:
VAXstation 4000 VLC running VMS v5.5-1 and Pathworks, with the following:

        Management client software version:        MSA V1.1
        Management agent software version:         MSA V1.1
        Print spooler software version:            MSAP V1.1
        LaserWriter symbiont software version:     MSAP V1.1
        AppleTalk protocol stack software version: ATK V3.0-1

The LaserWriter is configured with the name "Parisa 1" in both network
interfaces.

Problem:
Whenever the VAXstation is rebooted, whether intentional or not, the
users are unable to print to that printer.  The following messages show
up on the opcom:

%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   9-JAN-1993 16:08:52.39  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user NICHOLSON on IGUANA
%MSAP-E-SJCERR, error sending job to queue "LASER_PRINT"
-RMS-E-RNF, record not found

On further investigation, it turns out that the LaserWriter shows up as
having the name "Parisa 11" on the EtherTalk menu.  On LocalTalk it is
still known as "Parisa 1".  The folks on the Mac-side seem to feel that
Pathworks on the VAXstation is `renaming' the printer.

My questions:
Is this possible?  What, if anything, can I do to fix this?  Any and all
ideas and suggestions will be greatly appreciated.  Thanks in advance!
 
-- 

 .-.|     |    |     | |    /------------------\   Karin Nicholson
 |  |-..-.|/.-.|-..-.|*|/  < karin@zach.fit.edu >  VAX Sys Mgr @ Florida Tech 
 `-'| |`-'|\`-'| |`-'|||\   \------------------/   Florida Space Coast LUG Chair
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: ULTRIX, X-Windows and PATHWORKS for DOS (TCP/IP)
From: SYSMGR@IPG.PH.KCL.AC.UK
Date: 27 Jan 1993 18:25:05 -0300 (BST)
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Via: uk.ac.kcl.ph.ipg; Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:34:46 +0000
Originally-to: CBS%UK.AC.NSFNET-RELAY::EDU.MUOHIO.ACS.MIAMIU::LANWORKS
Originally-from: SYSMGR "Nigel"
Mailer: Janet_Mailshr V3.4 (23-May-1989)

>   - Is X-Windows support only available via DECNET, or missed I some=
>     thing to install (may be on the ULTRIX side) ?
 
No, it works with TCP/IP  (at least to a VAX running UCX). The main gotcha with
that is that Pathworks has to know what the VAX's prompt string is going to
be. The default is "$ ", can change with DWCONFIG. Another gotcha is that if
you have ANYTHING in your VAX LOGIN.COM or in SYS$SYLOGIN that does a read
from the terminal when you log in, then DWDOS over TCPIP won't work.
 
>  - What's wrong with the DECNET transport and a NE2000 card ?
>    (NDIS driver works with TCP/IP, but not with DECNET ?!?)
 
Have never tried a real NE2000 but various clones were COMPLETE failures:
wouldn't run DECNET, wouldn't run IP. If its true that NE2000's can't change
their MAC address, then DECNET becomes an impossibility (and presumably so
does the claimed NDIS driver).
 
        Yours,
                Nigel Arnot
 
                NRA%ipg.ph.kcl.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk   (internet)
                NRA%uk.ac.kcl.ph.ipg@ukacrl.bitnet        (bitnet)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: CANCEL SUBSCRIPTION
From: "Gene Holcombe - Sr. LIMS PS" <GHOLCOMBE@SNARD.PE-NELSON.COM>
Date: 24 Jan 1993 12:10:11 -0800
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Please remove my subscription from this Listserver.  I have tried all the
commands to no avail. The account to be removed is:
 
gene.holcombe@snard.pe-nelson.com
or
gholcombe@snard.pe-nelson.com
 
 
Thanks!
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: lamhof@thijssen.nl (Lambert Hofstra)
Subject: Pathworks and Novell on the same VAX, possible??
Summary: Pathworks and Novell on the same VAX, possible??
Keywords: pcsa pathworks vms novell netware
Organization: Thijssen BV, Veenendaal, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:41:41 GMT

Hello Netters,

Well, the title says it all: is it possible to run Pathworks and Netware
on the same VMS system concurrently? Does someone have this  working?/
Experiences? Will DEC add Novell server to Pathworks for VMS, just like
they added Netware coexistance to the PC-side?

Thanks in advance,
Lambert Hofstra
lamhof@thijssen.nl
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Problems with NET ATTRIB
From: "Gvran Lvwkrantz IM Program AB +46 8-6507525 (0)" <glz@KALLE.IMPAB.SE>
Date: 26 Jan 1993 10:02:39 +0100
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I wrote:
>>Hello there!
>>
>> We have a problem with allowing access to a selected file on an application
>> file service setup as a read-only service to registered users. I want to give
>> write access to ONE file for ONE user.
>  ..
>  ..
>  ..
>
>> As a test I did an 'EDIT/ACL' on the VMS side and added 'EXECUTE+DELETE' to
 th
   e
>> ACL and rebooted the PC, but no change. I have also tested changing the
>> protections for the directory tree, but still no change.
 
And Carlos wrote:
>
>Do you have a APPLICATION file service or a COMMON file service?
>
>According to the Server Administration Guide in the chapter for "Managing
>File Services" (ver. 4.1) it says that in COMMON file services you control
>access to individuals files as well as to the file service, but in APPLICATION
>file services you only control the access to the file service.  Individual
>files within the APPLICATION file services are the same as the service.
 
>Carlos.
 
>Carlos J. Sainz
>Academic Services Manager
>----------------------
>BITNET   : CSAINZ@UMIAMI                PHONE  : (305) 284-3565
>INTERNET : csainz@umiami.ir.miami.edu
 
And as usual, it was an APPLICATION file service and the behavior was as
expected. Just that it was such a long time since I read the manual.
 
Thanx.
        /Goran.
 
  Goran Lowkrantz           Email    : glz@impab.se Tel: Nat    08-6507525
  IM Program AB             CompuServ: 100030,347        Int +46 8 6507525
  Fleminggatan 56                                   Fax: Nat    08-6502870
S-112 45 Stockholm,  Sweden                              Int +46 8 6502870
From: arv7823@GGR.CO.UK
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Use Command under windows
Date: 27 Jan 93 13:20:00 GMT
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    Our experience is that connections made in Windows DOS box *do* work
    provided the only network transport loaded is DECnet.  Having
    LANSESS/LAST loaded, even if not used, results in problems if you try
    connecting in a DOS box and then switching tasks.  I can't comment on
    TCP/IP as we have not used it.
 
        Alan Vos
        Desktop Support Group
        Glaxo Group Research
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: VT320 versus lk250 keyboard
From: Maria Hiles <hiles@GENRAD.COM>
Date: 28 Jan 1993 05:24:35 -0500
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I haven't been able to fully solve the problems with these keyboards, but have
a solution which may help.  The following should give a workable solution for
most things.
 
LK250s
 
In VT320 setup save the following settings
 
keypad mode - application
cursor keys - application
keypad type - LK250
 
Make sure that Numlock light is ON (PF2 toggles this)
Make sure special light is ON (ALT+F17 toggles this)
 
- then most thing should work as expected.  The HELP and DO keys don't seem to
work however. For PF2 use ALT+PF1
 
LK450s
 
Setup as above
Make sure (in this order) the following lights are on
 
NUM LOCK (the 2nd light)                PF1 toggles this
DEC (the 4th light)                     ALT+F17 toggles this
 
The latest LK450s we have work great but we have a couple at an earlier
revision that don't.
 
For these the keypad should work as expected - the 'Help', 'Do' and cursor
keys DON'T.  It is however, possible to use the cursor functions on the keypad
with SHIFT+8 for up arrow etc, and if you need PF2 use ALT+PF1.
 
I've tried these out with the TPU editor (my version has keypad set to EDT!)
and it seems workable.  I'm not an expert in A1 but what I tried in that
worked.
 
If anyone has done better or knows of the existance of an LK450 driver for
Windows, let me know.  Hope this helps.
 
Maria Hiles
GenRad Manchester
HILES@GENRAD.COM
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: Problem with Mac LC and DECnet for Macintosh
From: "Sherrie M. Kroll" <KROLL@VICVX1.VIC.UH.EDU>
Date: 22 Jan 1993 08:44:11 -0600
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>
>> then ran NCP, defined the node, set the DECnet state to be ON at startup, and
>> defined the node that I wanted to connect to.  When I rebooted, the system
>> hung during the DECnet initialization.  Subsequent reboots had the same
>> results.
>
>Sherrie,
>
>I hope you won't feel insulted by a dumb question, but did you check for
>other DECnet nodes with the same node name as your Mac?
>
>--Phil
>
>// Phil Rand                                   prand@paul.spu.edu
>// Computer & Information Systems                  (206) 281-2428
>// Seattle Pacific University, 3307 3rd Ave W, Seattle, WA  98119
 
Never hurts to cover all the bases, but I did assign a unique node name
and address.  Thanks for the reply.
 
Sherrie Kroll
University of Houston-Victoria
kroll@VicVX1.Vic.UH.EDU
From: yingling@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Macintosh Broadcasts
Date: 26 Jan 93 08:58:17 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

We've all seen the recent discussions concerning the lack of broadcast 
utilities for the Macintosh portion of Pathworks clients.

We tried something the other day that is rather exciting and thought that 
some of you may benefit.  We loaded DECnet on a Macintosh client, and a 
"ResEdited" Pathworks Listener (we edited it so just the SUBJECT line of a 
mail message would be received instead of USER on NODE received a message 
from ANOTHER USER, Subj: " ... ").

We started up Mail for Macintosh on another client (mine) and sent a mail 
message to a "dummy" VMS account with the DECnet node name of the recently 
configured client (above) as part of the TO: line 

	PCSA%"NODE.pd$dummyaccount"

and the subject line was received at the specified client.  Now all we need 
to do is periodically delete mail messages from the dummy account and 
create a distribution list of these nodes to simplify matters.  We did not 
even completely configure the client DECnet database (did not add node 
names in there, but did make sure the ethernet was the selected line and 
that DECnet was started at boot time).  This client did already have an 
entry in the VAX NCP database.

Why did we try this?  Somehow, we need an immediate notification to all of 
our clients when something is happening (shutdowns, classroom reservations, 
etc.).  We have a ready supply of configurable, DOS-based receivers but 
there does seem to be a dearth of MAC-based receivers.  We also could not seem 
to be able to get some of the more "interesting" Mac utilities (Broadcast) to 
just receive messages without also being able to generate broadcast messages 
- we certainly would not our users in an open computer lab environment 
enabled to send broadcast messages to instructors and their buddies 
elsewhere in the lab!  This also helps to keep us within the realm of 
Pathworks (instead of more and more 3rd party products).  

Hope that this might help generate some creative pursuits with respect to the 
PATHWORKS Listener.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Ralph N. Yingling, Director	  yingling@hcob.wmich.edu  (Internet)
College Computing Services
Haworth College of Business   --  Western Michigan University
Kalamazoo, MI 49008		  (616) 387-5356
                                  YES, There really IS a Kalamazoo!
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: karcher@jevex.waisman.wisc.edu
Subject: RE: VMS WP key map for SETHOST or KERMIT?
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 26 JAN 93 21:44:46 CST

In a previous article, I asked: 
> Does anyone have a keyboard mapping file for SETHOST or MS-DOS KERMIT to 
> map VMS wordperfect V5.1 keys to the same locations as PC Wordperfect? 

In addition to key definition files sent by a few of you (thanks) I also found
one that's supplied with VMS WP V5.1 at:

	WPCORP$ENVDIR:WPCORP_ENV_KERMIT_ENG.KEY_MAP

In the same directory (if WP 5.1 is installed at your site) is a PC program to
make NUM LOCK function as PF1. See the comments in above file to use it. The
only problem I've found so far is that it doesn't work when Kermit's terminal
type (for MSkermit V3.11 or V3.12 and VMS WP 5.1-1) is set to VT320. If the
terminal type is VT220 it works fine.


Carl Karcher                          Internet: KARCHER@WAISMAN.WISC.EDU
Waisman Center                        Bitnet:   KARCHER@WISCMACC
University of Wisconsin-Madison       PSTnet:   (608) 263-5896
From: bats@utrtsc.enet.dec.com (utrtsc::bats)
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: LAD16, either CSC or CompuServe
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:02:19 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
X-Posted-Via: NEWS-NOTES gateway (a hack!)



	I believe the inclusion of the 16 drive version was an
	error on creating the patch kit.
	It shouldn't been in there.
	But maybe you coudl persuade your local CSC people the supply
	the rest. 
	Or take a look on Compuserve (GO DECPCI). 
	
	Pjotrr Batzz
	DeskTop Expertise Centre
	Digital Netherlands
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
From: zcookbruc@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Help needed with TCP/IP and pathworks.
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:12:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.153019.569@lrc.edu>, david@lrc.edu writes:
> We have some software that uses TCP/IP to connect to a computer 
> over the internet.  I know that PathWorks can use TCP/IP, but I need 
> to know how.
> 
> VAX-info:
> VMS 5.5-1
> Pathworks 4.1
> We don't have the TCP/IP software for Pathworks.  We are using DECNET.
> 
> My question is where can I get a packet driver for our DEPCA (The old
> ethernet cards) and the DE-100 (Newer ones)?  I have heard of some sites on
> the internet that have them, but I can't seem to find them.  Can anyone
> help or is this a lost cause?  Thanks for your help. 
>

If you ask Microsoft real nice, they might send you a copy of their NDIS
driver for the DEPCA from their Windows for Workgroups.

If you have the server kit (Pathworks for VMS), you will find an
NDIS driver for the DEPCA in the PATHWORKS directory on your server
/LMDOS/DRIVERS/DEPCA. I don't know how compatible DECs NIDS driver is
with others, I've had problems using their DEPCA driver with other peoples
PROTMAN, but that might be the other vendors fault. I have used other NDIS
drivers with Pathworks.

...BRU
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: NETSETUP automation
From: "G. Pentecost" <PENTECOST@BROOK.BITNET>
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:11:25 -0400
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A long while back, I asked if anyone had succeeded using the undocumented
NETSETUP macro feature.  A colleague of mine recently figured it out, so
here it is:
 
        NETSETUP/RECORD places all keystrokes in NETSETUP.KBR
 
        NETSETUP/PLAYBACK will replay the keystrokes
 
 
Gregg.
 
PENTECOST@BROOK.EDU
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: Windows for Workgroups!!!!!!!
From: "Themistoklis I. Pentakalos" <MIS5000@UMBCADMN.BITNET>
Date: 22 Jan 1993 09:05:00 -0500 (EST)
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Everyone,
 
        There is a Windows for Workgroups list. Please forward your
related questions and comments to that list:
 
        WFW-L @ UMDD
 
        Thank you.
 
        Themos
Newsgroups: vmsnet.networks.desktop.pathworks
Subject: RE: DWDOS386 & DECW$SESSION.EXE
From: David Woodall <DVWOODALL@TAYLORU.BITNET>
Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:12:00 -0500 (EST)
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    Regarding using the End Session from DECW$SESSION....
 
>The only problem is, well, when you tell the session manager to end the session
>it causes the PC to reboot.  This is consistent with the session manager and
>a VXT 2000 terminal, also.
 
    You can exit (and end your session) by pressing CTRL/ALT-F10.  This
    returns you to DOS fairly quickly.  Of course, this is not a clean as a
    menu selection from the user's point of view.
 
 
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David Woodall                      BITNET: DVWOODAL@TAYLORU
Systems & Development Leader
Taylor University
Upland, IN
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