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From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: 4000: Is it so great?
Date: 26 Sep 92 14:28:23 GMT
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada

In article <1992Sep25.184419.12964@microsoft.com> iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:
>In article <1992Sep24.173919.8255@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep24.032135.20021@microsoft.com> iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy) writes:
>>>/* IanK@Microsoft.com				*/
>>
>>Ian, how many copies of OS/2 will have to be sold before Microsoft
>>realizes how much money they're losing by not entering the game?
>
>We will enter the game. On our own terms with an OS written by a small
>closely knit group studmuffin developers. Not some monstrosity
>coded by a commitee of 400 suit wearing
>dorks fighting inter-departmental turf wars at a company nobody
>trusts. IBMs top heavy 1960s heavy handed management beaurocracy was
>one of the reasons the IBM-MS thing fell apart.
>
>The OS war is just beginning. When NeXT STEP enters the race it
>will really get intresting.
>
>Ian.
>
>P.S. It wasn't Microsoft that lost BILLIONS of dollars last fiscal year.
>Now who's loosing money? It's not Microsoft that has to GIVE AWAY their
>OS in order to get people to use it.

It's also interesting to note that by last summer's financial statement, 
MS could pay all of their expenses (salaries, benefits, facilities, etc.)
for an entire year out of the cash on hand and short term investments pile,
and not sell a single piece of software or hardware, and that the company
would still have a couple of hundred million dollars left in the petty cash
zone at the end of that year.

I bet MS employees are a lot less worried about their jobs than a lot of IBM
employees, given that IBM is announcing layoffs bigger than all of Microsoft.

>-- 
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>/* Waiting for what comes after the A4000! 	*/
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>/* '486 box...					*/


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Re: To all Amigans!!! And NATO !!! But "Swedes" Mostly !!!
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:03:18 GMT

In article <OA92-901-306p1_AE3773D7@piraya.bad.se> Hans_Bergengren@p1.thulos.bbs.bad.se (Hans Bergengren) writes:
>
> JG> But the Swedes was the worst, a bunch of neutral f*cking cowards !!!
>
>HEY! I heard that! You seem to have a real attitude problem if you meant that.
>We of the younger generations can't be blamed of what the older generation did
>(or rather: DIDN'T do) in WWII, so just *Shut Up*, before I become real
>angry... All "Swedes" (Hm!) didn't agree with the government during the war,
>but that's irrelevant in this newsgroup.

Hmmm ... you sound pretty angry already ;)

(this is c.s.a.a. you know and the subject is, as you say, pretty
 irrelevant ... email _is_ invented you know.)

If you read the posting closely you'll notice that it's directed at your 
cowardly ancestors ... (he he)

> JG> -Jorn (served in Norwegian Infantry in 1991 - 1992 ;)
>
>Nice for you. What did you learn there, apart from a hatred toward us poor
>"Swedes"? :)

Since you asked : I learned to hate everything _about_ the infantry
                  and the military in general ;-) A complete waste
                  of precious time ...

It's funny, though, that I only got 'hate' replies from swedes and not
from any bashed danes. But I suppose that's because we love to hate
eachother ;)

PS! Why do you write "Swedes" all the time ?
*JORN* (email : jorngh@sofus.dhhalden.no)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: marnold@cwis.unomaha.edu (Matthew Eldon Arnold)
Subject: Amiga 4000... when
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:52:55 GMT

I've heard enough wonderful things about the Amiga4000 to determine that
I want one.  Now how do I get one.  Are they available in the United States.
No.  Safe Harbor has a price posted, but they're just taking pre orders
right?  Does anyone know when the A4000 will be available in the US.
I asked my dealer.  I know more than he does.  My dealer doesn't even have
an A600 yet.

We've talked about Commodore's lousy marketing in the past.  What would be
the point of advertising.  The hardware is too difficult to acquire even for
those who are in the know.

I sure would like to know when an A4000 will be availalbe to the masses (as
well as a powerup program.)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com>
Subject: a4000
Reply-To: "robert buonincontro" <robert.buonincontro@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:01:36 EST

SS>Why?  Does anyone really believe that other companies treat their
SS>customers any better?  At least C= has been nice enough to offer
SS>PowerUp deals to owners of any Amiga.  If I'd have bought a Mac Plus
SS>instead of an A1000 back in 1986, I'd have been stuck with the damn
SS>thing with no hope for an upgrade.  With C=, I got a great deal on
SS>an A3000 and got to keep my A1000, the only loss being a manual cover.

SS>C= may offer another PowerUp deal on the A4000, and I'd bet that the
SS>money save would easily pay for the SCSI-II card.  I mean, surely no
SS>one expects the A4000 to be usable with an IDE drive.  Everone knows
SS>that all of those PCs with IDE drives are really not doing anything
SS>because the IDE drives are absolutely useless.  Oh, and I forgot that
SS>C= had also better get that DSP card ready real quick or else people
SS>will go deaf listening to the A4000's audio.

 I upgraded from an A500 to an A3000 over a year ago and have had no regrets. 
The A3000 has served me well and was and still is worth the money. The most 
frustrating thing is not knowing if I should should sell the A3000 off and 
get an A4000 or if I should keep the A3000 and buy a 3rd party graphics card.

          robert.buonincontro&canrem.com
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From: gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Commodore and Babylon-5
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:19:32 GMT
Organization: Homebrew Virtual Reality Labs
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


 (summ50@cse.unl.edu) wrote:
:
:    Again, those GEnie users interested in Babylon 5, come over to the
:    Science Fiction Round Table... there is a HUGE conference frequented
:    my Mr. Straczynski himself.

Mr. Straczynski also frequents the science fiction forum on CompuServe
as well.  just type GO SCI-FI at a prompt on CIS.

George Cifrancis
gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: FACTS? (was: Re: REAL FALCON 030 SPECS)
Keywords: n
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:36:35 GMT

In article <35589@cbmvax.commodore.com>, daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
|> In article <fqgzxng@rpi.edu> danaf@rpi.edu writes:
|> >In article <35376@cbmvax.commodore.com>, daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
|> 
|> >|> ...  And we're talking about GNU Emacs, resident compilers, "Assign 
|> >|> INCLUDE: RAM:INCLUDE", megadiskbuffers, multiple Pro-Pages, Pro-Draws, 
|> >|> and PageStreams, POST, etc.  
|> 
|> Like I said before, I've had PageStream, Pro-Draw, a couple of rlogins, etc. up
|> on a Moniterm driven system (eg, big screens) and still had over 1MB of Chip
|> RAM left over.  I think the question shouldn't be what special stuff I have,
|> but instead what you're doing to waste all that Chip RAM.  Just how many custom
|> screens do you really need?  Does that recoverable RAMDisk live in Chip RAM? 
|> Do you really need three screens with nude Samantha Fox on them going all the 
|> time?  I suppose anyone running 1.3 may already have their answer...

1> Wouldn't a "Moniterm-driven system" imply that everything is in black-and-
white? Or 4 colors or something? I'm not certain... but that would significantly
cut down on the chip RAM usage.

2> I only need <<3>> custom screens. One for my workbench, which can also carry
the ADPro control panel, one for the ADPro output screen, and one for ProPage
and ProDraw, living together happily. Unfortunately, as my life is not a
simple paradise, this is not possible. ADPro insists on opening its own custom
screen (albeit small, at 4 colors and lores...) and ProPage and ProDraw each
insist on opening their own custom screen, thus doubling the chip RAM usage
unnecessarily. I'll complain to Gold Disk and ASDG, sure, but if I had more
chip RAM this wouldn't bug me, so I'll also complain to Commodore.

|> >(Rumor time: Dave's got 4 megs CHIIIP RAAAM. Dave's got 4 megs CHIIIIP RAAAAAM.)
|> 
|> NOT!

Well, it was worth a shot....

|> -- 
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|>  "The Crew That Never Rests"  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh   BIX: hazy
|>               "I got a pocket full of kryptonite" -Spin Doctors

SPIN DOCTORS!?!?!?!? Next he'll be quoting Spiny Norman or something...

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From: freire2a@serss0 (Angel Freire)
Subject: Re: Open Letter to Dave Haynie!
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:03:25 GMT

hi dave. i have a question which i'd like for you to answer if you     
could.

with all that has been said here in advocacy concerning the 4000, AGA,
and the other two chipsets being worked on, i'd like to know the 
'definitive' answer to the following question. 

will it be possible to use these future chipsets in the 4000 or will one
require a '5000' to use them? i.e. has the 4000's graphics architecture
laid the foundation for future enhancements or is AGA the extent of 
that architecture? thanx for replying.

Angel Freire 
Florida International University 
freire2a@serss0.fiu.edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 20:34:57 EDT
From: <DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 at WOC

In article <1aaqj0INNd2m@uwm.edu>, gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
says:

>gerrymon@eng.umd.edu (Gerry Mon) writes:
>: I disagree.  The Atari BLiTTER is most definitely DMA.  A DMA device
>: basically transfers memory from one location to another without the
>: intervention of the CPU and the BLiTTER does exactly this.

>I'm sorry, I had things pictured differently.  Under that context,
>probably the best context to use, yes, it is DMA.  However, it appears
>to do its own stuff, as if it itself was the DMA controller, and
>that's why I didn't count it as USING DMA, because it appears that it
>is doing the fetching itself.

A boring matter of semantics... FYI the Amiga "DMA controller" for the chip
bus is Agnus (Alice for AGA) which coincidentally contains the Amiga
blitter. Too bad Alice isn't an improvement.
From: kontos@clipper.ingr.com (Thorne Kontos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Best arguments of the week in .advocacy
Keywords: Falcon Specs, 262,144 vs. 256,000, My posts in general
Date: 3 Oct 92 15:56:44 GMT
Organization: Intergraph Advanced Processor Division - Palo Alto, CA

Welcome to my Saturday morning nightmare...(A 6 day work week)
So lets jump right in with a few healthy jolts of reality...
(Much like the surprise of sitting on a cold toilet seat in the morning)

1) Atari's Falcon - who really cares? Amigans...No!
                                      Mac Users...No!
                                      PC Users...No!

   Do you honestly think if the Atari name brand actually had any
   clout whatsoever, we would have seen comp.sys.atari.blah.blah.blah
   a long time ago? So start your own newsgroup and extol its virtues
   there. You don't see my name attached to posts dumping on Mac's and
   PC's in their newsgroups. So why should I have to look at yours here?
   
2) The number of colors in the AGA chip set. This is the stupidest
   waste of bandwidth, far worse than the trash I spew here to see if I
   can get a response out of someone at C=. Thanks GRR, for your 
   info on the AGA stuff, but I still think you need to publish the specs.
   You'll make more profit off another hardware manual, rather then making 
   nothing if a hacker cracks the chipset first. By the way, the ECS register
   locations are documented in appendix C in the Hardware manual.
   Unless there are a few more undocumented features you are not telling us
   about? Hmmmmmm.

3) It is amazing how I can constantly spew low-grade trash (Marc Barrett
   style) into this group, and then watch people begin to follow-up.
   MY POSTS ARE NOT WORTH FOLLOWING UP. My posts consist mainly of
   echoing and amplifying the signal to noise ratio already present here.
   HOWEVER, I MUST OBJECT TO THE WORM WHO (rather than using E-mail)
   ASKS WHO AM I TO CRITICIZE THE ALMIGHTY COMMODORE NAME...
   I WILL TELL YOU, YOU SNIVELING DOG OF A COWARDLY CAT...

                    I AM A LOYAL CUSTOMER.

4) My new idea for A4000 promotion. (Great news for developers)
   Bundle the latest Hardware/Rom Kernal stuff right along with
   the A4000. Just think how this will speed product development.
   Include the AGA specs. I want some 262,144? 256,000? color
   demos that will turn heads!
From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: REAL FALCON 030 SPECS
Date: 4 Oct 1992 06:47:51 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33

In article <1992Oct2.181629.27733@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ccb8m@palm.cs.Virginia.EDU (Charles C. Bundy) writes:
>> 640x400 frame at 8bitpl = 256K memory x 24fps = 6.15 Meg/sec

>Granted I don't know anything specific about the Falcon except it's
>claim of a DSP.  With a DSP the motion picture demo could have been
>running through the DSP set up as an MPEG decoder/encoder filter.

It isn't really necessary.  Delta compression and RLE encoding could
be more than enough to obtain that kind of speed.

And since it's possible to be continuously reading the animation off
of hard disk, it could be done.

After all, if an Amiga 2000 and DCTV can do it, a Falcon should be
able to.

Greg
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From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Articfox (was: aga chipset for amiga)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 07:39:03 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Sep16.011938.6166@nntp.uoregon.edu>
  <1992Sep16.034140.16378@ra.msstate.edu>
  <1992Sep17.020946.23569@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au>
  <1992Sep24.140056.8469@ariel.ec.usf.edu>

I still have my artic fox!  The original disk is a demo to show people
what the inside of a disk looks like, but I have my backup copies.  I
also would vote for a new improved ArticFox, after all, those aliens
might just come back and try again since I blew them away!  I have
not seen either Stellar 7 or Nova 9, I will have to go looking for them.
Will they run on an 030?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: leikvoll@hsr.no (Morten Leikvoll)
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000 but NO AUDIO
Organization: Rogaland University Centre
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:59:18 GMT

In article <0ekpbzq00WBL44RlR1@andrew.cmu.edu>, bc2y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Brian T Cheek) writes:
>.....
> PC: You need more than 8 characters to name a song.  I don't want an
>.....
> ATARI ST: no thanks I like an operating system that doesn't crash on 8
>......
> Sooo that leaves the Atari Falcon.  Strong MIDI base (supports ST MIDI
> software) only I don't trust their OS (or them for staying in business
> for that matter)
>........................
> -Brian :)  (Flame me personally, keep this board clean)

I thought the falcon also used the 8 character + 3 index for filenames....

-Morten Leikvoll (Is it short enough?)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: s64453@rmece49.upr.clu.edu (hernandez machado ricardo)
Subject: Re: AGA hidden registers - C= is giving me an attitude
Organization: RUM-Mayaguez, Puerto Rico--UNIX Lab
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 07:27:18 GMT


   I agree that C= does this.  My concern comes, however, for a company
like Psygnosis.  Excellent games, that have to by pass the OS.  What is
my suggestion?  Allow the OS to report the location of specific registers.

   For example:  query the os on the new register locations, copper list adresses,
 sprite addresses, etc.
   
   This will not allow the total up-to-date sophistication of going directly,
but surely helps for Game developers that really want to take advantage of the
machine. 

   If even game developers have to stick with the OS all the way, then the games
between the PC and the Amiga won't have any real difference (consider dual-playfields
for example).

- Raist
From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: REAL FALCON 030 SPECS
Date: 29 Sep 1992 00:46:48 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

mario@mbunix.adsp.sub.org (Mario Bayer) writes:
: >		Overscan (?)		Fully customizable overscan
: 
: The FALCON/030 does overscan up to 720x480...

And it's not nearly as versatile as the Amiga's overscan.  The falcon
method of overscan insures that.

:  Memory:        1 MB                    2MB Chip-, 4MB Fast-Memory
:  ROM:           512KB                   512KB
: >OS:		(?) MultiTOS		AmigaDOS 3.0(TM)

Also, it won't be shipping with MultiTOS, from what I've been told by
Atari fanatics...

Greg

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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: REAL FALCON 030 SPECS
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:14:52 GMT

In <u894776.717808655@bruny> u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull) writes:
>Lets face it - some people bought STs merely because lots of software
>ran better on an ST than an Amiga.  Better - as in faster and more usable.
>Compare a minimum configuration A500, versus an ST or Archimedes, or even
>an old 8 bit machine like the BBC Microcomputer.  Which machine is the least
>usable - which machine has the slowest [perceived] disk accesses, which machine
>has the most awkward and ugly GUI?

The least usuable is probably the BBC Microcomputer. The slowest disk
access is probably the A500 (unless running AmigaOS2.0) and the ugliest
GUI is probably on the ST. The ST might look more clean but the _slowliness_
of any window operation make it the worst (and I don't like menus popping
up and not popping down when you just move the mouse....).

Regards,
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From: torban@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Torban Bennett)
Subject: Re: Dave's Sig/Music Taste
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 28 Sep 92 07:27:22 GMT

chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch) writes:
>daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>>-- 
>>Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Cool Advanced High-End Systems You Can't See Yet)
>> "The Crew That Never Rests"  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh   BIX: hazy
>>             "You lie so much you believe yourself" -Metallica

>Heh.. Looks like daves choice in music has strayed from the B-52's to
>Metallica.. and from REM to... ???  

>Are we going to see "Enter Sandman" imprinted on the motherboard of the 4000?
>;) 

I hope so ! @;-)  But that reminds me of the ol' 1000.  Remember the tune it
played when you switched it on?  What happened to this feature?
I want my new Amigas to do this !!  (And preferebly a new tune)

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From: u894776@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (James McCoull)
Subject: Re: REAL FALCON 030 SPECS
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:29:25 GMT

gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:

>Well, actually, GODS is 32-colors by the Bitmap Brothers, ported TO
>the ST, not from...

Wrong.  Gods was written by an ex 6809/Dragon programmer.  All development
tools - map editor and so forth were written on the Atari ST.  The graphics
most certainly are 16 colour - with colour 0 being changed on a copper list.

How do I know?  I saw parts of the development system during the development
phase.  Furthermore, when I saw the graphics, I could not believe they were
16 colour - I have since then disassembled the game and verified that they
are 16 colours.  Now if only I could find a graphics artist that economical
with colour.

Please when you say things like "ported TO the ST" try to stick to the facts.
A little truth goes a long way - ring the author or the publishing company.
Frankly I don't have time for amiga-liars.
From: slbfn@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Articfox (was: aga chipset for amiga)
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:58:08 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <66831@cup.portal.com>, Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON) writes:
> I still have my artic fox!  The original disk is a demo to show people
> what the inside of a disk looks like, but I have my backup copies.  I
> also would vote for a new improved ArticFox, after all, those aliens
> might just come back and try again since I blew them away!  I have
> not seen either Stellar 7 or Nova 9, I will have to go looking for them.
> Will they run on an 030?

 Stellar 7 runs great on my A3000, installs on the HD, and has no copypro
 at all!  Graphics are poor, but not that bad.  Looks like EGA.

 I hear Nova 9 is quite supperior on graphics support, but have never seen it.

 By the way, has anybody gotten Marble Madness! to work on the '030 without
 having to load in Kickstart 1.2?

Greetings,

	Travis Carter
	slbfn@cc.usu.edu
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