From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: sci.environment
Subject: Sheep, FED, Alaska.
Date: 25 Dec 92 00:27:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: acad3.1992Dec24.162756.1
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

In article <58002@dime.cs.umass.edu>, yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu (victor yodaiken) writes:
> In article <JMC.92Dec23184831@SAIL.Stanford.EDU> jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU writes:
>>Victor Yodaiken's Massachusetts is in much better shape than Alaska in
>>that almost all of the land in Massachusetts is in private hands.  It
> 
> This is such typical right-wing "my eyes are closed so you can't see me"
> nonsense that it boggles the mind.  There is essentially no wilderness left
> in Massachusetts, but there is an extensive state park system which
> preserves much of what we have left. Of course the Feds have done a terrible
> job managing our national parks, but it is foolish to draw from this the
> lesson that private ownership is more likely to preserve wilderness and 
> open space than public ownership.
> 
Well instead od condeming my chances for even the chance for land, why not turn
the whole state of Massachusetts into a park. If you so much want land for
parks, why not create your own, closer to where people can actually use themm..
Most people can't even get to the so called parks unless you like flying (which
is not a cheap thing) or snow machine in which is not fun, unless you live near
the park.. Im not sayin gpruvate ownership will save the wilderness, what I am
trying to say is much of these so called park lands can only be seen by wealthy
people. Such as congressmembers.. 

> 
>>is unfortunate that so much land in the West is in the hands of the
>>Federal Government.  The Federal Government should auction off 3/4
>>of its land in the Western states including Alaska.
> 
> To what end? Instead the government should start acting to preserve the
> property of the general public, instead of allowing it to be degraded for
> the profit of a few well connected welfare ranchers, miners,
> loggers, and tourist concessionaires.
> 
Im not to excited about tourism people, but atleast they are making money for
soething, instead of living off the State University System (hum)..


>>Alaskans should get their Congrressmen to introduce a bill to do that.
>>Even if it doesn't pass the first time, it will be fun to hear the
>>statists like Yodaiken howl.
> 
> Statist? Your logical deductions are not truth preserving.
> 
> -- 
> 
> 
> yodaiken@chelm.cs.umass.edu


Victor quick question? Who do you work for, and where did you grow up at?
Just getting a mental picture of you..

I grew up in Idaho (family homesteaded there in the 1840's.. Raised partially
in Oregon (mothers family has been there since c.1900.. Raised mostly in
Juneau, Anchorage, and somewhat in Petersburg. I have been/lived in Prudhoe,
Nome. Visited Fairbanks, Bethel, St. Michaels (village), Elim. I probably have
seen much more than any lower 48 person has seen of this State, which if you
don't know is of a different scale on most maps of the US for a reason..
I love my state. I have seen Mount McKinley more than 100 times (on a clear
day you can see it from Anchorage), Seen more Bald Eagles than most anyone
who never has been here has seen..