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From: kilborn4950@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: St. Petersburg, HELP !!!***!!!
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:04:37 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <dxper.715912184@dtek.chalmers.se>, dxper@dtek.chalmers.se (Per Anders Olausson) writes:
> muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky) writes:
> 
>>It also called "edinyi", but there are couple of various passes valid for
>>10 days, 15 days and 1 month. There are around for quite a while (couple
>>of years, at least). I'm not sure, but I think cost is linear with time.
> 
>   What about train travelling in Russia? Is it still possible to pay in
> rubles if you are a foreigner?
> 
>   If so, are there any plans to withdraw this possibility in the near future?
> 
> pao
> --
> -------------------------------Andrew Olausson--------------------------------
> --------------------------Unemployed Unix Specialist--------------------------
> ------------------------------pao@cd.chalmers.se------------------------------
> -------------------------------pa-ola@proxxi.se-------------------------------

        A month ago when I left Petersburg a train ticket on the elektrichka
from Kupchino (southern Petersburg station) to Pavlovsk (Paul's palace) cost
about 3 rubles 20 kopecks round trip.  Yes, it is very possible and quite
simple to purchase train tickets in rubles, especially on the smaller commuter
trains.  However, when we went to Moskow we tried to go through normal channels
at the main train ticket station (next to Kazanskij Sobor) and were completely
unable to buy anything, not because we were foreigners, but because tickets
sold out a week in advance.  If your Russian is good and you are not against
waiting in a huge line, even the longer train tickets are still available to
foreigners in rubles, although it is much more convenient to go through
Intourist (and you will probably get a better train.)

                                                        Kilborn
From: avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: "democratic" Estonia
Date: 14 Sep 1992 15:34:06 -0400
Organization: Berkeley Software Design
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In article <1992Sep14.134756.12496@jyu.fi> ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
>Bullshit [3 times]

The last argument of a mentally disadvantaged. Ya tashyus'.

--vadim
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe
From: qasama@banach.WPI.EDU (John Grossi)
Subject: Re: The least nationalistic nation
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:47:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.085143.15465@husc3.harvard.edu> zhelud@drfmc.ceng.cea.fr (Andrei Zheludev) writes:
>In article <1992Sep6.063228.24273@cco.caltech.edu> patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz) writes:
>
>>
>>We're not by any means attempting a "monumental" study to "unify" Russian
>>culture. We're describing things that people did to resist various forms
>>of intellectual oppression. Please don't assume we're projecting ourselves
>>as authorities or experts.
>>
>>We are just finding out a lot of interesting stories, and putting them
>>together for Americans to read.
>>
>>And so far, even people who really are experts like what we've done!
>>
>
>You can write as much books as you will. This will not help the americans
>understand russian culture. They will think it was _that_ bad to live in russia. They will think that KGB was our main concern. It wasn't! It was not bad at
>all! You get used to it as you get used to bad climate, to rainy weather.
>It's a horrible blizard, but you just sit there speaking with your friend
>about women. You will never be able to tell enough stories so that the americans
>would understand. UNDERSTAND means to know when a russian cries and when he
>laughs. There is a good test. Take a russian anecdote and tell it to a russian
>guy and then to an american. The first will laugh, the latter weep. (I'm not
>speaking of dirty jokes). You can write as much as you want, but to UNDERSTAND
>THE REALLY ESSENTIAL things , the things for which the emigrees from russia
>have nostalgia, the things which REALLY make the culture, the minor, everyday
>episodes- to UNDERSTAND you need to LIVE there.
>
Americans will never understand anyone but Americans. To understand Russia and
Russians you must be born one, you can not learn it except at an early age.
The social experience of a lifetime can not be learned except over a life time.


-- 
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Worcester Polytech /_ _V V  O  O   T   EEE  \__ Moderation is for monks.
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From: dleschin@FEDS66.PRIME.COM (Dmitri Leschiner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Shafarevich
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:21:38 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

>Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 09:05:51 GMT
>From: "Mikhail S. Verbitsky" <verbit@BRAUER.HARVARD.EDU>

>>>>If yes, were all "barely tolerated" people in such positions?

>>>	Sakharov was.

>>Sakharov was immediately fired not only from managerial position,
>>but even from his institution, as soon as he went out of favor (end of
>>60-ies). After several years, as everybody knows, he was even sent to exile.

>And this is bullshit! Sakharov was sent to exile in 1980, when
>he tried to criticize Afghan war. Before this time, he was
>held in FIAN by ac. V. L. Ginzburg as a fulltime worker, and
>was a head of a sector for several years in 70-ies.

This is obvious b**lshit. Sakharov was fired without preliminary notice
from his nuclear physics center, where he held high-level managerial
position, and then was taken refugee in FIAN by Ginsburg, on his own risk,
"as a fulltime worker".

D.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: polyakov@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Dimitri Polyakov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Russian poetry
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:55:56 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Don't take her (I mean,Patricia) so hard.I know her well,she seems
to be pretty girl.
From: covdy@shemesh.metaphor.com (Ivan Covdy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Russophob Belov
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:47:05 GMT

in article <1992Sep9.200804.8237@erg.sri.com>, vlad@erg.sri.com (vlad) says:
> 
> Look, you miss the six crucial points that all Russian patriots must be
> aware of:
[...]

I think you missed at least the following two:

7) A Jewish woman tried to kill our dear leader V.I.Lenin.
8) She missed, fuck her and all Jews!

[That was:  Za vsjo na evreja najdetsja sudja,
	    Za zhivost', za um, za sutolost', 
	    Za to, chto evrejka streljala v vozhdja,
	    Za to, chto ona promahnulas'.  ]

-- 
  Ivan Covdy, covdy@shemesh.metaphor.com, METAPHOR Inc.,  CA,  USA
 *** People are looking for a Mind somewhere in the Universe,      ***
 *** because on the Earth they've been finding only the Stupidity. ***
From: avyfdvg@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (David Gatenby)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Anekdot
Summary: Po-russki
Date: 12 Sep 92 10:12:04 GMT
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham

Russky i armyanin v kupe na poyezde.  Boltayut. 
Russky: ,,Menya zovut Ivan.  Po-armyanski, Dzhan".
Armyanin: ,,A menya zovut Akop. Po-russki, transhe". (Apologies for possible
misspelling of the final word of the _anekdot-.)  I shall give an explanation
of the joke on request. 
                                    
*David Gatenby, Dept of Slavonic Studies  *                           *
*University of Nottingham, University Park* "Rasslab'sya, otechestvo" *
*NOTTINGHAM, England NG7  2RD             *   (pun, not misspelling)  *
*                         avyfdvg@unicorn.nott.ac.uk                  *
From: AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Entropy Warrior)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Russian poetry
Date: 9 Sep 92 20:22:11 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

>4.
>And, I hope, net wisdom would be able to explain to stupid me,
>why people try to write about things they don't understand completely.

To give you your cherished opportunity to correct the world in
its muddleheaded misunderstanding of the deep dark secrets that
have been revealed to you--by God, one supposes.

-Mka
From: mmarkish@FEDS46.PRIME.COM (Mark Markish x2799)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re:  Tuk-tuk....
Date: 12 Sep 92 01:10:09 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

> From: didinsky garry
> ....
>
>     ps.  Reading Ms. Schwart's messages reminded me of a joke:
>
>     Armyanskomu radio pishet storoj Vasilii Ivanovich Zaitsev iz derevni
>     imeni Dvadtsatogo s'ezda Partii.  On prosit chto byi myi syigrali dlya
>     nego ego lyubimoe klasicheskoe proizvedenie, pervyi kontsert....(just
>     think of something very refined).
>
>     Armyanskoe radio otvechaet:  Vas'ka, ne *****.

No!! Wrong!! sovsem ne tak ono otvechaet!!!!!!!!!!

#include "stdS.C.S.ObjectionsRegularStrength.h"

Armianskoe radio otvechaet:  Vasilii Ivanovich, pozhaluista ne vy*******es'
                             i proslushaite "Kalinku".

[the most favorite song of the progressive America]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz)
Subject: Bulgakov
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 04:08:36 GMT

Is anyone out there interested in a discussion of Master and Margaret?

Also, I found an interesting book, "Manuscripts Don't Burn: Mikhail
Bulgakov, A Life in Letters abd Diaries" by J.A.E Curtis.

It contains, among other things, the diary that he kept from 1917 until
1924, which was seized by the Cheka (NKVD? OGPU?) in 1926 to be used as 
evidence in a trial against a friend of his. When the police returned 
the diary to him, he burned it and never kept another one.

BUT - copies were found in 1989 in the KGB archives. So, magically,
"rukopisi ne goriat" i ne sgoreli.

-patricia margaret schwarz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: leonid@thyme.uchicago.edu (Leonid Andreev)
Subject: Re: What's Rakhov like?
Organization: University of Chicago CILS
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:09:13 GMT

In article <9209072001.AA02321@feds66.Prime.COM> dleschin@FEDS66.PRIME.COM (Dmitri Leschiner) writes:

>   >From: Leonid Andreev <leonid@THYME.UCHICAGO.EDU>
>
>   >One of the places of
>   >interest they will definitely show you is the medieval
>   >castle in the town of Mukachevo, not so far from Rakhov
>
>   Yea, very nice place, not so close to Rakhov either, though.
>
>   D.

What the hell do you mean by `not so close'? In a scale of such
a huge empire, like USSR was, these two towns are as close to 
each other as the two corners of your bedroom! :)


--
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| Leonid S Andreev,    Center for Information and Language Studies,  |
|  (312) 955 5012        University of Chicago, Chicago IL, 60637.   |
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From: mmarkish@FEDS46.PRIME.COM (Mark Markish x2799)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Russian Culture, Mayakovsky
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:37:17 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

| > From Patricia M. Schwarz
| > .....hopefully we'll wind up
| > with something that is authentic and true, but at the same time
| > interesting and understandable to American readers.
|
| Somehow I doubt. I just read the book by Billy Bragg on the
| same subject :). Billy, from all Western "underground" artists
| is the one most involved in Russia (Mayakovsky etc., he even
| recorded an album "Speaking with a Taxman about a Poetry" :).
| No avail. A dumb book, where his major acievement is explaining
| who Mayakovsky was...

As a matter of fact, Mayakovsky spent quite some time in the USA,
and wrote a few poems here. This particular one, which is undoubtedly
an "underground" one, echoes an earlier masterpiece of his own.
It has been entitled `Vstrecha na Brighton Beach`
(A Brighton Beach Encounter) :

              Ia srazu skushal bliudo studnia,
              zapivshi vodkoi iz stakana;
              kak Vy nashli na karte budnia
              moi magazin u okeana?

              Stoiali, raskatavshi guby
              na cheshuiu koshernyx ryb...
              I ia, chtob ne kazat'sia grubym,
              igral noktiurn. A Vy smogli b?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: mashina <novost@halcyon.com>
Subject: Russian authors & books
Originator: novost@halcyon.com
Keywords: Solzhenitsin
Reply-To: novost@halcyon.com
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 00:24:34 GMT

  Does anyone know if A. Solzhenitsin's books have been published
in Russia?  In particular, has <A Day in the Life of Ivan
Denisovich> been published?  Also, does anyone know where one can
get a copy of this book in Russian.

  Incidently, I have read several of his books and had some trouble
getting through the <Gulag>, however, I thought that <A Day in the
Life of Ivan Denisovich> was an excellent book.  I my mind, it in
some small way is indicative of Russian culture or personality.
I mean, here is a guy going through extraordinary hardships, 
dwelling on everyevent that happens during the day to make sure he
makes the right decisions which will help his survial.  And then
at the end of the book, has the courage or sense of well being to
conclude that it was a pretty good day after all.  

  Any comments?

                   Jeff
From: avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Shafarevich
Date: 8 Sep 1992 22:48:37 -0400
Organization: Berkeley Software Design
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In article <88224@netnews.upenn.edu> sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin)

(Or was it
> zhelud@drfmc.ceng.cea.fr (Andrei Zheludev) ?
 People, keep attribution understandable!) writes:


>   I had an impression reading this news group for a while that there was
>   terrible antisemitism in Russia.

That's merely because the vast majority of contributors to s.c.s
are ex-Soviet Jews.

>   It was impossible for a Jew to get 
>   admitted into a decent University, to get a decent job there after.

Yep. Many people were happy to avoid "decent" job in "p.o. box"-es
(military-related research institutes and plants).

>   But now I hear that, nonetheless, the science in Russia is done by Jews.
>   I don't know what to beleive in, now (it's a cry from my soul)!!!  

Ha-ha. Take a grain of salt.

>   However, we also can see that _every_ nation was supressed by Russians
>    - just ask our Ukranians, Balts e.t.c.
>   BTW, what does it mean "always"? 

Aargh. Get a life. There always was enough idiots ready to believe
in anything if it provided a good reason to blame someone else.
  
>  Do you mean the combination of both (logical AND)? : Jews were smart AND
>  party bosses were stupid, that's why the latters supressed the formers.

Depends on what to consider "smart".

>  What does it have to do with the ethnicity then?

Yawn. It has NOTHING to do with ethnicity.

>Unless you mean that 
>  there are no smart people among other nations. 
>  This would be quite fascistic.

Ugu.

>  I am a Russian too. But what does it have to do with the right of speech?

Right of speech - that's what USENET is for. 

>  Were you a party boss, who had been oppressing Jewish scientists or you're
>  just a not smart russian, who doesn't know what he's saying?  

Dunno about your opponent but i personally became a notorious
antisemit by challenging some wide-spread (in the West) beliefs
about the realities of Soviet life. Never mind. Everybody got so
thin-skinned nowadays. I'd better go home before some feminists
sue me for sexual harrasment by means of politically incorrect
ASCII sequences.

--vadim
From: dleschin@FEDS66.PRIME.COM (Dmitri Leschiner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re:  What's Rakhov like?
Date: 7 Sep 92 05:01:12 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

>From: "Patricia M. Schwarz" <patricia@CCO.CALTECH.EDU>

>While I am in Russia, I'll be attending a physics conference in Rakhov,
>which (as of the printing date of my atlas) is near the Romanian
>border of Ukraine in the Carpathian mountains.

>Has anyone out there been to this place? What's it like?

Small town (20,000?), really nice. Quite a bit of beautiful buildings,
pre-soviet time. Small clean river, Tissa, in it. Nice mountain valley,
mountains around. Montpelier, Vermont's capital, is, I think, quite like
it, might be a little bit bigger.

>How about the train trip from Moscow to Rakhov - any warnings or
>suggestions? It sounds like a real adventure.

Was nothing special 15 years ago. Probably the same now. Beware of
robbers and thieves. Don't forget to get Ukrainian visas in advance
(they used to not accept Russian ones, not sure of now). Don't speak
in public at all, so people won't recognise you are a foreigner.
Buy return tickets together with direct ones - not that "round trip"
is cheaper, but usually they are not available readily. Hopefully,
you still can buy tickets Moscow-Kiev-Rakhov, being in Moscow, but
who knows, what's going now...

D.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy)
Subject: Re: Russophob Belov
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:35:42 GMT
Organization: Be. I am.

In article <2514@cronos.metaphor.com> covdy@shemesh.metaphor.com (Ivan Covdy) writes:
>Remember that:
>
>"I have not read the novel of Pasternak, but, as all Soviet people,
>I angrily denounce this antisoviet bastard!"
>
>It became classic, but looks not everybody know the classic.
>
>
>Yes, I did read Belov's "Vse vperedi". I think that it's russophobic.
>Judge for yourself:
>
>There was a Russian guy and a Jewish guy.
>
>The Russian guy was a bad guy: 
> - stupid; he destroyed his and his family life only because 
>   of SUSPISION that his wife might had seen strip-tease when 
>   she visited Paris;
> - not nice to his family: he divorced his wife and abondoned 
>   his kids;
> - alkohol-addicted: he drinked a lot and was fired several times
>   because of that;
> - he didn't fight (even passively) the Communist system.
>
>The Jewish guy was a good guy:
> - he didn't drink a lot of vodka;
> - he was a good father and husband: he married that woman, who didn't
>   see any respect from her former husband (the Russian guy) and
>   adopted the kids who were abondoned by their father;
> - he was a hard-working man;
> - he didn't like the Soviet system so he decided to emigrate.
>
>
>Hence, V.Belov and his "Vse vperedi!" is a russophobic novel.
>
>Hope it helps.
>
>-- 
>  Ivan Covdy, covdy@shemesh.metaphor.com, METAPHOR Inc.,  CA,  USA
> *** People are looking for a Mind somewhere in the Universe,      ***
> *** because on the Earth they've been finding only the Stupidity. ***


Yes, and the life of russian guy was destroyed because of jewish guy.
And you can feel author compassion for russian guy, not for
that jewish machine gun - sorry - guy.
And you can see how jewish guy virtually throw away russian guy from
the life.

As bad as it is, is it russophobic or antisemitic propaganda?
Should be evident.

Hope that may help.

	-igor
From: verbit@coolidge.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Shafarevich
Date: 5 Sep 92 09:29:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Sep5.052955.15389
Organization: Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv

In article <1992Sep4.215849.6432@cco.caltech.edu> patricia@cco.caltech.edu (Patricia M. Schwarz) writes:

>Same with feminism, Russian women in about five years will begin to
>seriously work with this concept, people will argue very bitterly
>but the tone of arguments will change, just as they did here, real
>progress will be made, and then there will also be some idiot-level
>fluctuations too.

Actually, Russia is a head above America with the attitude towards
women. Most things American feminists fight for Russian women
got in 1920-ies: the could (and even forced to) work, they
are supposed to be equal on household tasks. In Russia, women
understand ideas of feminism a lot better than in America,
thanks to Communists who spread them. The same with affirmative
actions: in Russia they are a lot more strict than anywhere in
America. Now, this politic is viewed by "liberal" and
"democratic" media as bad, and most of people who
consider themselves as democrats and anticommunists
in xSU are rabid antifeminists. As you have already
seen on *.soviet newsgroups :) Fortunate for Russia
not everybody yet is brainwashed by dissidents (as 
I was before I came here) or "democratic" press.

Misha.
From: dleschin@FEDS66.PRIME.COM (Dmitri Leschiner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: What's Rakhov like?
Date: 7 Sep 92 20:01:02 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

>Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 15:52:42 GMT
>From: Leonid Andreev <leonid@THYME.UCHICAGO.EDU>

>It was a part of Hungary before that; something like 50% of
>the population still are Hungarians. Another 50% is a terrific
>mix of, I suppose, all the European nations ever existed. The
>language they speak is something absolutely unbelievable: it's
>half-Russian and another half, again, contains the words
>borrowed from all over the world...

It was a part of Hungary (as well as Slovakia and Transilvania
were), when Hungary was a part of Austro-Hungarian Empire.
Between WWI and WWII it was part of Czechoslovakia, called
Podkarpatska Rus'. There is indeed large Hungarian minority,
living in Southwestern part of region, area near Hungarian
border (they even speak their own genuine dialect of Hungarian),
but they hardly constitute 50% of region's population - I believe,
there is no more than 30% of them. Some of other population are
'volochi' (Romanians), but most of people are Rusins, or Gutsuls
(as they are calling themselves at north of region). Their language
is most close to Ukrainian, and usually is considered the dialect
of the latter (though base of it is pretty ancient, and ascends to
the times of Duchy of Galicia, and to ancient speech of Polesie
region). So, in a sense, it's "half-Russian", though actually pretty
pure; in fact, the script they were using before Soviet occupation
(for official language of Podkarpatska Rus') was very much similar
to pre-revolutionary Russian one; much more than to common Ukrainian.

>One of the places of
>interest they will definitely show you is the medieval
>castle in the town of Mukachevo, not so far from Rakhov

Yea, very nice place, not so close to Rakhov either, though.
So I'm not sure they will show it. In fact, that is just another
corner of region (Rakhov is southeast, Mukachevo is southwest).
Mukachevo (unlike Rakhov) is (former) Hungarian city. Only railroad
connection between them is through Romanian territory, and now is
probably defunct. (Was operating in 60-ies, then was closed.) Bus
connection along border, I guess, still exists.


D.
From: dleschin@FEDS66.PRIME.COM (Dmitri Leschiner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Russian poetry
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:07:22 GMT
Reply-To: "soc.culture.soviet via ListServ" <SCS-L@indycms.iupui.edu>

>Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:08:47 GMT
>From: Ivan Covdy <covdy@SHEMESH.METAPHOR.COM>

>in article <1992Sep08.141151.24896@watson.ibm.com>,
> bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy) says:
>
>[izdevatel'skie repliki v adres Shvarz opushcheny]
>
>Igorek, zatrahal svojej sovkovoj agressivnost'ju!
>Che tak zol-to na amerikanok, a?
>Baba kakaja-to ne dala, chto li?


Kak zhe, dast, zhdi!! Ona zhe "gay survivor"!!!

D.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky)
Subject: Re: Russian poetry
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:38:19 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.11 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In  <Sep.10.18.55.56.1992.2196@ruhets.rutgers.edu>
polyakov@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Dimitri Polyakov) writes:
> Don't take her (I mean,Patricia) so hard.I know her well,she seems
> to be pretty girl.

Nu, vy i poshlyak, poruchik ! Ili ya ne pravil'no ponyal "take" ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet