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From: harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris)
Subject: Re: Season's premier, loud musical score?
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Date: 29 Sep 92 10:55:16 GMT

spice@convex.csd.uwm.edu (James G Spice) writes:

>In article <1992Sep29.060211.16041@onion.rain.com> jeff@onion.rain.com (Jeff Beadles) writes:
>>
>>Is it just me, or was the premier this evening's musical score VERY loud?
>>
>>It almost seemed like a different show, but still good none the less.
>>

>If you ask me, which you didn't, but I'll give my opinion anyway, the
>closing song was totally out of character from the quality fare I've 
>come acccustomed to hearing.  The song I am referring to is the
>Happy Birthday ditty which smacked just a bit too much of that Mickey
>Mouse Happy Birthday version (Happy Birthday, Happy Birthday, Happy
>Happy Birthday to you ... repeat ad nauseum).  In short, it sucked.

Oh, dear, watch out for flames! It's a Stevie Wonder tune, I believe
it's part of a tribute to Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.  (It's much better
if you hear it in its' entirety).

 ........posted for the missus (Beverly H.)

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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: "Season Premiere"
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:44:07 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Sep29.142846.26464@news.acns.nwu.edu>, 
velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener) writes:
 
> Forgot to mention that Steve, the one lover who never appeared on the show,
> had been struck by lightning while working on an oil rig.  So the curse
> started long before Maggie reached Cicely.  :)

Did you think those were really ghosts, or maybe, just maybe, it was a 
product of Maggie's fever-induced mind?

It sorta seemed to me that that scene was created in Maggie's head as a 
way for her to deal with all of her insecurities.  In this case "Steve"
may be alive and well...but Maggie's delusion created a freak death for him
due to her worring about it.

So don't add his name to the dead boy-friend list yet...not unless she checks
and finds out it really happend next episode.

Greg Bole                              "I haven't seen this many sideburns
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  since West Side Story."
                                       Nicholas Cage in _Honeymoon in Vegas_
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From: cc0001@medtronic.COM (Christopher Carriero)
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam Beer
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:29:31 GMT

>
>Don't forget that the interior scenes for The Brick are actually
>filmed in a tavern in Redmond, WA, so it's not surprising to see all
>those northwest beer neons on the wall.  Microbreweries are very
>popular in this part of the country and there are *many* taverns
>around here that look like "The Brick" in this regard.
>

Does anyone know the name of the actual tavern in Redmond?  It
does look a little familiar (from when I used to live there).

--Chris


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From: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu)
Subject: ED!
Reply-To: st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:44:59 GMT

Hi Andie! Alleluia--another Ed fanatic. Only question I can answer is that
someone else on this newsgroup said he's 18. But since he's a municipal
employee, I'd guess he's a little older--say, 20? 21? Darren Burrows is
something like 26. Sigh. And yeh, he did DJ at KBHR but I can't for the life
of me remember what he played. Anyone have it on tape? Ed fans unite!
					Rosaleen

"Who are you?"
"I'm Ed."
		meeting of Joel and Ed, first episode
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:45:10 EDT
From: <MMB3@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: characters amiss

I agree, I thought that a number of people were off.
  And it is not just misunderstanding depth of characterization with
inconsistency.  The characters have been on a developmental trajectory
and some of them were behaving as if they hadn't grown as much as we
have seen them.
   I thought Joel got awfully offended at Marilyn, just because she said
he would make her nervous.  They seem to have been coming to an understanding
of each other, and this is the sort of thing he would have done before he
became a member of the tribe.  He seemed more brittle and abrupt than he has
been in awhile.
   I don't think Ruthanne would have broken the tape recorder.  She is too
mature.  Her character, as the wise one, would have had a number of behavioral
choices, some devious and biting, that did not involve destroying another
person's property.  She doesn't have much patience for Maurice in general,
it just seemed that the writers got lazy and had her break it, because
it is what everyone was probably thinking of doing.  She just doesn't strike
me as someone who would do that.
   Maggie was right on.                       Melissa Brown
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From: jps4800@tamsun.tamu.edu (John Parrish Schweers)
Subject: Re: premiere
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:16:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.144426.15498@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov> puckett@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Jim Puckett) writes:
>st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu) writes:
>
>>			And am I the only one who was oh-so-glad not to see
>>Arthur the Bear among the ranks of the dead?
>>			Rosaleen Dhu
>
>-uh - maybe I'm out of line here (as I was mispelling P(i)rsig - thanks,
>everybody 8) but -
>
>	wouldn't Maggie have to _sleep_ with Arthur for him to wind up
>dead?
>

The show never even implied Maggie slept with Arthur, so he didn't belong
 at the picnic.  Somebody asked if Chris had slept with Maggie in the
 episode where he lost his voice.  He did ask her, and she said yes, but they
 never did.   They acted like they did because the whole town was keeping 
 vigil outside of Maggie's house.

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From: pbd@runyon.cim.cdc.com (Paul Dokas)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Where is the Town of Cicely in Alaska?
Date: 25 Sep 92 13:38:08 GMT
Organization: ICEM Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep24.203432.1588@news.nd.edu>, jwalpe@bashful.helios.nd.edu (Court Walpe) writes:
|> Yes, there is such a place as Sleetmute.  If I remember correctly,
|> it is west northwest of Anchorage.  I have no idea how far from Anchorage
|> though.  I also seem to remember Maurice saying something about the province
|> or county that Cicely was in.  Anyone else remember this?

Unless my memory is failing me (and it very well could be ;-) I believe that
it is "Arrowhead County".  This is stated in the "Screaming Trees" episode.
I believe that it's mentioned several times:  Maurice mentions it during his
tirade about the local newspaper.  Chris mentions it at the end of the episode
when he's on the air.

Anyone with a better memory than mine remember?

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From: hmc6442@ultb.isc.rit.edu (H.M. Chau)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Found it!(was Re: One more time- Who did Toy Cows?)
Summary: Found info on Toy Cows
Keywords: cows, toy
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:53:29 GMT
Followup-To: AAron@sun.soe.clarkson.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Originator: hmc6442@ultb

I found it!!!
Though I didn't find the cure for cancer as some thought I might :(
You may not believe this but...

I subscribed to the Cle Elum Tribune (Roslyn's local newspaper),
I called Roslyn Town Hall to find the number of a specific person I saw
in the paper,
I called that person who gave me the number of Pipeline Productions,
I called Pipeline Productions who gave me the number of they LA office,
I called their LA office who told me

The name of the song is....
      "Toy Cows In Africa"   Not very helpful since everyone looked
that up and could not find it.

The name of the group is...
      _Chance_

The song...
      Is not on any released album...

They gave me the number of the group and said that I could probably get
the song for a price...
I called that number and left a message on an answering machine, and
have not heard back from them yet.

I will write more when I hear from them.

AAron@sun.soe.clarkson.edu
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This was posted for AAron@sun.soe.clarkson.edu who doesn't have access
to this newsgroup, but really wants it!!!
He does follow these discussions when he can.
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: A question about bears...
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:39:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>Of course, Maggie has connections in the bear community.

So, jynx has been shattered...  The bear is still alive, or it
would have been in there with the other boyfriends :-)
-- 
Darin Johnson
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From: jwest@andersen.uucp (Jeffrey A. West)
Subject: "Cicely" sighting
Organization: Andersen Consulting
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:21:55 GMT


I just saw Brooklyn Bridge this weekend, and the
actress that played Cicely, played Alan's girlfriend's
sister.  I forget the names.  Anyway, it looks like
it might be a recurring character.

Jeff
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From: barb@ufycorp.Unify.Com (Barbara Kane)
Subject: Re: Maurice/Tulsa???
Keywords: ummm
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 18:30:04 GMT

>
>Actually, I don't think Barry Corbin is from Knoxville, but I know that
>John Cullum is.  When I was growing up there, the newspaper (and presumably
>the community) was bursting with pride every time he got a paycheck.  I
>had no idea he was a good actor (given the hoopla over other untalented
>Knoxvillians) until NX.

How can John Cullum be from Knoxville, TN?  He's got a thick British 
accent!  Ever see "the Day After"?  His character is from Kansas, but 
he does the introduction in his natural voice, as John Cullum.

Barbara Kane                                             Unify Corporation
* He befriended a lump of wood and took it everywhere with him.  He used *
* to throw dogs for it to fetch and could never understand why it didn't *
* retreive them.      - Jeremy Pascall                                   *
From: eric@npri6.npri.com (Eric Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Canoe last night
Summary: how about her paddling?
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:39:48 GMT
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

In article <BvC6sy.JI0.2@cs.cmu.edu>, br@cs.cmu.edu (Bill Ross) writes:
> 
>     Perhaps I'm being picky, but the canoe on last night's show
>     was just a little too much.  It was a brand-shiny-new
>     plastic Old Town and they made real sure that you saw that
>     name on it.

I didn't have a problem with this (Ed doesn't own a canoe--he borrowed
Maurice's new one), but can anyone comment on Maggie's paddling 
technique? I'm not a canoeist, but even to this couch-explorer she
seemed a little unsure on the river. Think JT learned just for this
episode?

-------- eric@npri.com ---------- or ---------- ...uunet!uupsi!npri6!eric -----
                    The stupider you get, the better I look.                    
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From: mbn@intelhf.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam)
Subject: Re: Season Premiere
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro  OR
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 22:47:17 GMT

In article <CMM.0.90.4.717769968.wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> William R Thompson <wthomps@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> writes:
>
>
>Overall, I thought this was a great episode.  The music, however,
>was terrible compared to what is normal for the show.  I just
>have one question:  Did this episode have a new writer?  A few of the
>characters seemed WAY out of character.  Joel wasn't his usual hyper,
>insecure, and defensive self, while I found it very, very hard to believe
>that Marilyn would want to learn how to drive.  Also, the scene where
>Ruth-Ann smashes Maurice's recorder didn't seem like typical Ruth-Ann
>behavior.  It was a great way to begin the season (I'm starting to 
>see Mag's independent side again, which I missed terribly), but something
>was amiss with a few of the characters.  What gives?
>Long live Northern Exposure, the best damn TV show ever....

I'm wondering if the season premiere was the first episode *filmed*
this year, in which case it might be understandable that Joel didn't
come across in his usual manner.  After all, he was 'on strike' for a
while and didn't report to the set until after filming had already
started.  Maybe he wasn't "into character" yet.

-- 
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From: harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris)
Subject: Re: Chris-in-the-morning
Organization: NASA/MSFC
Distribution: default
Date:  6 Oct 92 03:56:43 GMT

ertle@kira.uvm.edu The Sneaky Devil writes:

>In <1992Sep29.222926.29424@oct17.dfe.dec.com> hensley@melkor.enet.dec.com (Irene Hensley) writes:

>   There has been a little said about Chris's past - there was one
>episode in which they are holding elections and Chris can't vote
>because he had been convicted of a felony.

I thought your right to vote was taken anyway while you were in prison
(and possibly on parole), but was returned to you when your time had
been served....any legal types who know for sure out there?

...........posted for the missus (Beverly H.)

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From: pd@sics.se (Per Danielsson)
Subject: Maggie's plane (was Re: NX Premiere "Northwest Passages")
Organization: Swedish Institute of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:06:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.211540.4213@netnews.synoptics.com> franks@synoptics.com (Frank Stutzman) writes:

>Now if I can only figure out what kinda plane Maggie flys.  Looks like a 
>Cessna 140, but thats a pretty wimpy bush plane.

Looks like a Cessna 170 to me.
--
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From: velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener)
Subject: Re: The opener
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:49:44 GMT

In article <91033@netnews.upenn.edu> egedi@ahwenasa.cis.upenn.edu (Dania M. Egedi) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.151901.20358@news.acns.nwu.edu>, velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener) writes:
>|> In article <1992Sep30.080813@zohar.gsfc.nasa.gov> z8tah@calvin.gsfc.nasa.gov  writes:
>|> >> had to date:  Maggie.  I'm gonna unzip your pants and pull them down.
>|> >> Now don't go getting yourself all excited.
>|> >Interesting but I thought he said ..." I'll try not to get excited." 
>|> >What did other people hear?
>|> 
>|> "Try not to get turned on."
>
>Try not to get too excited.

Oops, i goofed again.  I think this one was the right line.

michelle
(shift key is being very temperamental...)
From: lenh@access.isc-br.com (Len Humbird)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Season Premiere
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:58:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Technical Publications, ISC-Bunker Ramo

In article <1992Sep29.140050.25946@news.acns.nwu.edu>, velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener) writes:
> 
> 
> And someone asked who Steve was (among the men in Maggie's life).  Maggie
> looked perplexed and asked him herself, and he said they had dated once (but I
> don't remember what the date was) in high school or something, and she asked,
> "Did we... uh..." and he said, "Uh-huh."  So it was some sort of one-nighter,
> maybe.  Correct me if I'm wrong...

That sort of puts the nail in the coffin as to why the producers wouldn't let
Joel sleep with Maggie last season. To stay consistent with Maggies other bo's,
Joel would have had to die, and the show cancelled. 

I agree with you Michelle, about this kiss compared with the last. Much more
tastefully done.
From: gaylin@bacall.ipac.caltech.edu (Gaylin Laughlin)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Maurice/Tulsa???
Keywords: ummm
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:09:24 GMT
Organization: Caltech
NNTP-Posting-Host: bacall.ipac.caltech.edu

>In article <1992Sep30.013614.19767@netcom.com> dslee@netcom.com (Donna S. Lee) writes:
>>ckile@andy.bgsu.edu (crystal kile) writes:
>>
>>>everybody with his memoirs?  Or is it just that Barry Corbin is (in real
>>>life) from Knoxville?  God, I hope that I'm wrong, that we aren't going to
>>>start seeing such gross continuity problems.
>>
>>No, I think it's Chris that is from Tennesee.
>>-- 
>
>Barry Corbin is a native Texan.
>





Yeah, and it's a well-known fact that Chris is from Wheeling West Virginia,
not Knoxville Tennessee.  He tells us about it in practically every episode.



Just thought you'd like to know.  I'm not flaming anyone here.

I loved the opener too, and didn't think it was out of character for 
Ruth-Anne to smash the tape recorder.  Soon as I saw the hammer in her
hand, I thought about it myself.  And, she is a sensible gal.

Gaylin Laughlin
gaylin@ipac.caltech.edu
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From: velour@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Michelle Wiener)
Subject: Sex and Death
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 01:36:19 GMT

As I slap my PretentiousEnglishMajorGoddess mask on, here's a completely
bizarre, yet possibly relevent idea I thought of while I should have been
studying for the GRE (11 days --AAAAAAAAAAUUUUGHHHHH!):

I'm currently taking a class on the novels of Virginia Woolf (not very
pertinent), with a feminist theory slant (note: feminist theory does not mean
interpreting the text to show that all men are horrible beings.. *grin*).  A
few days ago we were discussing the fact that in many novels written by women,
the female protagonist dies shortly after marriage or other form of sexual
initiation (The woolf novel is _The Voyage Out_... I highly recommend it!). 
Other than Woolf's novel, there's Catherine Linton from _Wuthering Heights_,
Maggie Tulliver in _Mill on the Floss_... Hetty Sorrel in _Adam Bede_...
anyway.  I won't go into the psychoanalytical reasons behind this, other than
the loss of virginity is seen as a highly traumatic event for a young woman
(in victorian society)... and after marriage, a young woman can go no further;
as a wife and mother she has fulfilled her destiny, and there's nothing left
for her to do BUT die.  These are not necessarily my beliefs, just some of the
theories involved in interpreting women's novels...

It suddenly struck me that in Maggie's love life, the genders are
reversed:  the MEN die after sleeping with Maggie.  I'm not sure what this
might mean, and I doubt that it's even intended to be an inversion of this
Victorian theme... although I'm convinced that at least one of the writers for
this show was an English major. :)  One line of thought that may follow is
that, while Victorian women couldn't survive in a masculine society where
their ambitions and desires are suppressed and restricted to being a wife and
mother, the men in Maggie's life couldn't survive in Maggie's world, where she
does what she wants and fulfills her own desires, while they take second
place.  Maybe, maybe not.. I'm just rambling and letting my mind wander.

and if this gets flamed, then you're taking me WAY too seriously.

Michelle
From: dslee@netcom.com (Donna S. Lee)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Season Premiere
Date: 3 Oct 92 02:16:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

frist@ccu.umanitoba.ca () writes:

>I think that if the writers are clever enough (of which there is no doubt),
>Joel can "uh- do it" with Maggie and live to tell about it. In fact, once
>the deed is done, they should be able to milk the question of Joel's
>potential doom for suspense for several episodes. The question can finally
>be resolved in the following scenario:
 (lots of cool speculation follows)

I meant to post this much earlier, but perhaps better late than
never (the post above just made me think of it since it falls
into the same category):

Thank-you very much to everyone (I think there have now been
three) who contributed their own NorEx stories (or storylines) to
this group! I'm always afraid that non-professionals' fiction
will be emabarrassingly bad, but none of it has been bad at
all--in fact, it's been great! I truly enjoyed each of your
works, and I like to think I'm a very picky reader, especially
when it comes to subject I love. You guys (gals?) are brave and
talented. I wish you the best in your future work, and look
forward to seeing more of it here.
-- 
 Donna S. Lee // EC Technology // dslee@netcom.com
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From: toten@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (Derek Toten)
Subject: Re: John Collum
Organization: E.E. Dept., Tulane University, New Orleans, LA
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:07:57 GMT
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In article <1992Oct1.164018.15396@colorado.edu> iovine@columbine.cs.colorado.edu (Francesca Iovine) writes:
>
>
>On the subject of Collum's past performances: didn't
>he also play a psychiatrist w/ barbra streisand as his
>patient in 'On A Clear Day You Can See Forever' which
>played on broadway (then was made into a movie)?
>
>Maybe in some upcoming espisode his character will belt 
>out a show-tune...

	John Cullum is a VERY respected Broadway actor.  He is the recipient
of TWO Tony award for Best Actor in a Musical!  One for 1975's "Shenandoah"
and another for the 1978 "On the Twentieth Century."  He's fairly new
to television... definitely a loss to musical theatre

				Derek
!
Derek Toten
From: thompson@forsyth.wsnc.org
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: A question about bears...
Date: 30 Sep 92 00:37:13 GMT
Organization: Forsyth County, Winston-Salem  NC

In article <harris.717764458@drvax3>, harris@drvax3.msfc.nasa.gov (Mitch Harris) writes:
> The season premier was pretty good, but now I have a question. When
> Maggie went camping, I noticed she didn't even have a gun with her.
> Aren't there alot of bears roaming around Alaska (or am I victim of a
> stereotype)?
> Granted, I am a coward, I admit it, but I would be petrified to see in
> the Alaskan wilderness without a gun! 
> 
-- 
I thought exactly the same thing, but then I decided she probably had a Model
29 Smith .44 Mag stuffed in her backpack.  
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