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From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Linux Documentation Project
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 03:09:05 GMT

I'm sending this out to the newsgroup as well, to snag anyone who's 
interested and not already on the mailing-list. 

The following is a summary of the status of the Documentation work being
done on the DOC channel of the linux-activists@niksula.hut.fi mailing list.
See the FAQ for instructions on how to join the list. :)

The Linux Documentation Project is currently underway. We are working in
concert to produce the "standard"/"official" set of Linux documentation
as per Lars Wirzenius' outline for the project, discussed on the DOC
channel of linux-activists. 

The documentation will basically consist of a set of "Books" or individual
documents, each covering a different topic. The main documents in the series
that this point are the Installation and Setup Guide, the User's Manual,
and the System Administrator's Guide. Other documents, such as the Kernel
Hacker's Guide and a yet-to-be-written Programmer's Guide, will also be
incorporated into the project.

The DOC channel of linux-activists serves as the discussion group for this
project. We will all work together to write, edit, and review the documentation
associated with this project. Moreover, Lars Wirzenius 
(wirzenius@cc.helsinki.fi)has been "appointed" as the main "coordinator" of 
this project, and will help to mae sure that the individual efforts are in 
synch and that everyone's happy. 

In addition, each individual document in the series has its own coordinator.
The coordinator for the User's Guide is currently Larry Greenfield 
(greenfie@guass.rutgers.edu) and the coordinator for the Installation and
Getting Started Guide is myself (mdw@tc.cornell.edu). Other documents have
their own respective coordinators as well, but they will all be released 
through one effort, with Lars overseeing. This organization is in an effort
to bring together and coordinate a standard, reliable, and up-to-date set of
Linux documentation.

The documentation I'm referring to here aren't man pages and other on-line
docs; that's a different ballgame altogether. However, we're hoping that the
docs produced through the Doc Project will be converted to online format
(the standard format will be LaTeX, which filters are being written for to
convert to other formats if needed).

Basically, anyone who wants to help write or work with this project in
any way is welcome to join the DOC channel of linux-activists. If you'd
like to contribute to a particular document, mail that document's coordinator.
We're always looking for more help, so don't be shy. :) It's a very open
project.

Lars should be sending out a summary copy of his Doc Project Outline, along 
with the coordinators for the various sections, sometime soon (right, Lasu? :)).

Please feel free to ask any questions or make comments on the above. That's
just a summary of what's going on now.

Thanks,
mdw

mdw@tc.cornell.edu
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From: zxmsu01@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (Joost Schuur)
Subject: Problems starting X 
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:58:54 GMT

Well.. I got myself the S3 chipset version of X386 1.1 from 
ftp.robots.ox.ac.uk, and set up all the right dirs, however when I
run X, I seem to be getting just the default (at least I hope its
default) blue 'desktop' background. I'm running 800x600 mode and
do have both Xconfig and .xinitrc in my home dir and I did setup
the DISPLAY variable and paths et al. Like I said, I get this nice
screen with no mouse and no further disk activity, except about 30
seconds later, my hard disk does get active one last time (paging?)
Nothing works, not even Ctrl-Alt-Backspace, and I have to perform
a hard reset. When I start Linux, by the way, my Genius serial mouse
at COM1 is not recognized. Should I use the Microsoft setting in the
mouse entry of Xconfig (they are supposed to be compatible)? I even 
tried 'startx > err', but after a reboot, the err file is empty.

That brings me to a second question. What if my systems locks up, and 
I have to reboot. I can't sync, so is it possible that I may lose 
some disk data that hasn't been flushed yet?

Thanks in advance,

 -Joost Schuur (jschuur@studserv.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de)
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From: lien@lysator.liu.se (Jan Lien)
Subject: v0.98pl3 ls stops working
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 23:53:18 GMT


I have for some time been running linux 0.98, that compiled with no
problems, and have been running with no problems.  Recently I got
version 0.98 pl 3.  This compiles with no problems, boots ok, and I
can login.  But then the problems starts.  (BTW I always run as root,
so I do not understand how this should be a protection problem).

- ls reports nothing, just a new prompt.  ls redirected to a file
  just gives a blank file.    dir the same.  ls -l  reports total 0.
  But the files are still there.  I can run programs, I can read
  and write files, change directory, and so on, AS LONG as I remember
  the exact file name.  
- When running mtools I get "shell-init: getwd: cannot access parent
  directories".  But mtools still works.
  I get the same message if I log in as non-root user.
- df is ok, but reports the two non-\ partitions three times.
  du always reports 1, for any directory.
- If I boot v 0.98 pl 0 everything is ok again, and ls reports as
  always before.

Any hints on what I should do?  Not unix guru.

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith)
Subject: Re: SLS available for 9600 baud dload 1-508-793-9568
Organization: Keith's Computer, Hope Mills, NC
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 05:26:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.231210.27325@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard) writes:
>I'm finally done setting up the download section, and have extended the
>time allowed on so that someone can download the SLS release in one session
>(at 9600 baud).
>You can also order SLS and/or the current kernel sources on disk (inside the
>US).
>
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I also have the SLS distribution available for anon uucp:

919-423-4216

login: nuucp

No password

uucp ksmith!/u/ar/linux/ls-lR.Z ...
for a list of the archive

Shell accounts are available if you so desire to download by hand with
sz/rz kermit or sealink.
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From: tfoley@r-node.gts.org (Tim Foley)
Subject: Empire Progress?
Keywords: empire, linux
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:18:52 GMT

  How goes the battle with porting EMPIRE to Linux?  I haven't seen much
in a while...
 
  Now that I no longer have QWK mail access and use trn now, I can see why 
you guys want a split...without an offline mail reader...this is nearly
impossible to keep up with!
 
  Is there a way to produce QWK compatible packets on a Unix system?   
So I can go back to using good ol' ATP.... :)
 
								Tim
 


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From: lcd@ais.org (Leon Dent)
Subject: Re: How to set up Minicom to respond to Non-Root users
Organization: UMCC
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:52:16 GMT

Do you have a minicom.users file in the same directory with minicom.dfl?
An example users file may/should be included in the minicom distribution.

Leon Dent
lcd@ais.org
From: ludwig@wefunk.rent.com (Mitchel F. Ludwig)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: MicroEmacs - strange under 0.98.3
Date: 7 Nov 92 20:26:51 GMT
Organization: WEFUNK, the Mothership Connection. East Brunswick, NJ

Out of curiosity...  (Aint I a pain :-)

I'm getting errors compiling mg on a .98pl1 system.  When linking, mg
complains that there are unresolved externals in tty.o.  Anyone else
having a problem?

Mitch

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From: ins217t@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Possible cause of keyboard lockups in XFree
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 06:25:51 GMT

Erm, I've found a possilbe cause of keyboard lockups in Xfree86...

I got the new admutils and new poeigl and compiled...

It linked /dev/tty1 to /dev/console (which was prev. linked to tty0)

When I started X this afternoon, the keyboard wouldn't respond...

Changing the link back did the trick...

<Just in case any of you out there in netland are having sim. probs>

BTW, the new login didn't work when i compiled it
- i had to delve for the emergency boot disk to put the old one back...
(and it was 80K compared to 5K for the old one !!!)

Enjoy !
Cos !
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From: SF00@music.mus.polymtl.ca (Roger A. Blais)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS INSTALL : Cannot find libraray ???
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:25:13 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal

I installed Linux on my system and it worked properly except
that when I try to boot it, I get an error saying it can't
find a requested library (something like gcc.so.4).

Any idea what this could be.

Thanks for your help.
From: dingbat@diku.dk (Niels Skov Olsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: xsetroot and color with S3 server???
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:00:54 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, U of Copenhagen

Hi, 

I can't make xsetroot color my root window. I have tried the
-fg <color> -bg <color> but to no avail.

I think my xsetroot is from the pre-release of Xfree86 1.1...

Any clues?

Niels
From: ctne_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Chris Newbold)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Anybody have syslogd working?
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:48:16 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Has anyone had any luck getting the syslogd package from sunsite
working? I had to make some pretty ogly hacks in the source to get it
to compile and received many warnings about pointers. The resulting
syslogd executable just dumps core...

Any suggestions? Thanx!

-Chris

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From: ins217t@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Andrew J. Cosgriff !)
Subject: Color XTerm...
Keywords: xterm color X11 R5
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:09:45 GMT

Anyone happen to have ported Color XTerm to XFree86 and wanna put it on
sunsite or tsx-11 ?

I just pulled the source off an export.lcs mirror and it's full of problems
- I noticed sunsite has it in its INDEX for X11/xutils
but it's not there anymore 8-(

Argh !

Cos !

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From: waltje@kzdoos.hacktic.nl (Fred van Kempen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: BSD Talk/Talkd working ! (and more..)
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 04:50:14 GMT
Organization: HIN / BBS Koos z'n Doos

Dear All,
 
I just saw a message from someone who was having some
problems "porting" BSD Talk to LINUX....
 
Well, I have BSD talk(1), talkd(8), fftpd(8),
dig(1), host(1), and ftp(1) up and running now. The
next thing to do will probably routed(8)...
 
For anyone who is using E-mail: my U-MAIL 4.01 runs
in "Sendmail" background mode, too.... :-)
 
However, I cannot post news right now.  If anyone in
Holland can give me a pointer to a site where I can
upload the stuff- great!
 
Fred N. van Kempen <waltje@uwalt.nl.mugnet.org>
 
PS: do more people experience problems with bare TCP
    in the 98.3 kernel?  Mine gets stuck when doing
    FTP transfers larger than 1Kbyte, while 98.1 runs
    fine... :-(


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: ib09@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas Koenig)
Subject: Re: Linux on EISA? Yes!
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:46:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.114728.11235@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>, I wrote:
> Is there a version of Linux which runs on EISA - bus machines?

Apparently, it already runs on an EISA - machines, it just does not
take advantage of special EISA features.

Thanks to johnsonm@stolaf.edu and randall@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu for pointing
this out.

HOWEVER, I believe the FAQ from Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:58:25 GMT is a bit
misleading when it claims that

>QUESTION: Does it run on my computer?

>ANSWER: Linux has been written on a clone-386, with IDE drives and a
>VGA screen. It should work on most similar setups. The harddisk should
>be AT-standard, and the system must be ISA.  A high density floppy
>drive -- either 5".25 or 3".5

-- 
Thomas Koenig, ib09@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de, ui0t@dkauni2.bitnet
The joy of engineering is to find a straight line on a double logarithmic
diagram.
From: stud2@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de (Norbert Kuck)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: XENIX filesystem supported ?
Keywords: XENIX
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:13:37 GMT
Organization: AIFB, University of Karlsruhe (Baden / Germany)

A few days ago I posted the following questions:

>Can I mount a XENIX filesystem under Linux ?
>Do XENIX binaries run under Linux ?

Thanks to everybody for the speedy replies. The answer seems to
be as follows (summarized):

There is a XENIX filesystem patch available in 
tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/patches/xenixfs.patch
I had no time yet to try it, but it says it can handle existing
XENIX-partitions (created by XENIX mkfs, divvy ...), which is 
exactly what I was looking for. Great job ! 

Due to the different system calls (what about X/Open, POSIX, SysV..?)
XENIX executables do NOT run under Linux. However, there is an ALPHA 
release of a XENIX emulator in tsx-11:/pub/linux/ALPHA/xenix, but it 
says that it isn't all too stable yet.

Well, that's it, I think. Let me say again that I am very impressed
by the efficiency, friendliness and speed of the distributed development
and support in the internet community. 

Best regards

Norbert Kuck
stud2@aifb.uni-karlsruhe.de
From: glenw@remus.rutgers.edu (Glenn Wasserman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: emacs under X
Date: 9 Nov 92 07:28:30 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

This is probably a real easy question, but does anyone know how to make emacs
work under X? It seems to want to stay under the Xterm window.

-Glenn

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From: smadhur@charm.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Nivas Madhur)
Subject: Re: What is 'proc'?
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Urbana Design Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 16:55:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.194356.5661@muddcs.claremont.edu>, jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov3.051046.29607@cs.tulane.edu> butler@cs.tulane.edu (Larry Butler) writes:
...
|> 
|> 	cwd@   exe@   fd/    lib/   mem    root@
|> 
|> descriptors of the process, lib is the libraries being used, and mem
|> is analagous to /dev/mem.
|> 
|> That's the general idea, at least - someone with more knowledge of the
|> proc filesystem code may want to correct me in a few spots.

Can somebody explain how debugger breakpointing is handled with this
interface? Or does debuggers use /proc interface at all?

thanks,

nivas
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From: st1mb@elroy.uh.edu (Supernaw-Issen, Daniel A.)
Subject: X and Kermit
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 02:13:00 GMT

Something very strange I've found:
When running kermit under X386mono (I don't know about X386 - I've got a 
lowly 256kParadise card right now) I loose control of the mouse.  It either
becomes locked (that is, it doesn't move dispite my best whining) or it
disappears altogether (Xeyes stares right at me).  I found this problem with
both l0.98pl3 and l0.98pl4.  Any Ideas? Oh, I'm using the SLS distribution,
but I grabbed my X stuff elsewhere (i forget where) so as to have the shared
lib compiled version.  Any help appreciated. 

Daniel
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Possible 0.98.3 bug (in fs mounting)
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:56:49 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In article <AJB.92Nov8175930@dlsi.dl.ac.uk> A.J.Bleasby@daresbury.ac.uk (Alan Bleasby) writes:
>Dan,
>
>This is a known major bug with 0.98pl3. You'll find a patch for it both posted
>by Linus to c.o.l. and also available on sunsite

Actually, even that patch wasn't enough to get rid of the problem
totally: the real fix will be to get 0.98-pl4 - out in a couple of hours
after I have gotten the new fd_set code checked a bit more (I finally
decided that NR_OPEN should be more than 32, which results in some major
edits with respect to select() and the fd_set handling routines..)

		Linus
From: bartjan@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Bartjan Wattel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: 0.98 SLS Mounting problem
Date: 5 Nov 92 11:45:14 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Hi,

I tried to install Linux last weekend, but when Linux began mounting my hard-
disk partition (# 3) to /mnt, it seemed that /mnt was mounted to /dev/fd0 !!

Did I do something wrong  ??

I strictly followed the installation instructions. 

There was however, something very strange: when I did 'mkfs' and looked on
the disk, on the specified partition, it contained only zeros. Is this correct
or not ??

Please respond to me by e-mail, or use the Linux-newsgroup..


Bartjan Wattel at Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands
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From: ktompkin@pilot.njin.net (Ken Tompkins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Font Problems in Xconfig
Keywords: Xconfig Fonts
Date: 5 Nov 92 12:17:46 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I am still having problems with Xwindows though I finally
did get it working at 800x600. However, I had to comment
out the Font lines in the Xconfig. If I uncomment one or
both (one refers to Type1 on the system; the other doesn't)
Xwindows comes up and then the screen goes black and I
have to reboot.

I realize the fonts have to be compressed; I assume that
they are.

I am using SLS from tsx-11 with a 386DX clone and a
Trident 8900 chip.

Suggestions.....please.

Ken Tompkins
Stockton State College
ken@odin.stockton.edu
From: 890025d@dragon.acadiau.ca (Andy DeWolfe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: SLS0.98p1/X/ATI Vantage help needed
Keywords: X/ATI
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:51:59 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

I am just starting to try and run X-windows that came with
the SLS package.  I have an ATI Vantage and have really no
idea what I need to do to get X to work.  I have the
X8514new.T.Z file, but the README files only seem to apply
to a specific version of X, not the X386 that comes with SLS.
Can anybody please help me or tell me where I can find some better
documentation or examples.
Andy

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From: doug@owl (Doug Murray)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: An unfortunate test
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 1992 22:08:06 -0500

Hopefully this message will have stayed on my system and not gone out the 
to the newsgroup.  If this made it out in the newsgroup, sorry about that.

Doug! 
 * Origin: VE2URA (1:163/506.3)
From: ludwig@wefunk.rent.com (Mitchel F. Ludwig)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Shoelace...
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:26:33 GMT
Organization: WEFUNK, the Mothership Connection. East Brunswick, NJ

OK...  I'm getting crazy here...

Finally got .98p1 up and running.  It's way keen...  I'm trying to
set the bad boy up to boot from my hard drive.  I'm using shoelace.
What I do is.....

My config file looks like :

   boot		/vmlinux

it's in /etc/config

I run
   laceup /dev/hda1 wini

and then
   laceup -w 1 /dev/hda

Then I sync and reboot.  The WINIboot menu comes up, I press 1 to
boot partition 1, and the machine hangs.  My /vmlinux is the same
bootimage.98 that I use to boot from floppy, and I've changed 508/509
to reflect the hard drive being the place to look for root.

What's going wrong?

If no-one has any clue, what are you all using?

Mitch


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From: lecom@slhp1.epfl.ch (Claude Lecommandeur)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: HP-UX like Window Manager
Date: 13 Nov 92 11:22:07 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <1689E6D59.PETM@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de>, PETM@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de writes:
|> Hello there,
|> I know that this question has already been mentioned in this newsgroup, but
|> I can't remember the answer to the following question:
|> Is there a HP-UX-like Window manager ? (Maybe with adequate File Manager)
|> Disk space and Memory are not a problem (360MB, 16MB)
|>  
|> Thanks,
|>       Thomas Mueller (petm@ibm.rz.tu-clausthal.de)

    ctwm is what you need. The sources are at export.lcs.mit.edu.
I have not compiled the latest version for linux, but it should compile
easily. If i remember well, the only problem was with bison used instead
of yacc.

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