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From: drwho@realsoon.WPI.EDU (Eric Ant Von Laudermann)
Subject: Re: "Reservoir Dogs" review. (DO NOT) See this film!
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:11:03 GMT

In article <jjonsson.143@alexandria.lib.utah.edu> jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu writes:

>BOYCOTT RESERVOIR DOGS! Do not see this film unless you appreciate 
>unbelievable amounts of ultra-graphic violence, unrelenting racism, and have 
>a tolerance for deep seated sociopathy. 

Ah.  Realism.

>Jeff Jonsson
>Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.

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From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Date: 11 Sep 1992 17:30:41 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
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I just wanted to let you people in rec.arts.movies know that recreational
nudity is not related to sex.  Would you please remove rec.nude from the
Newsgroups line when posting on this subject.  We are quite prudish and
conservative in rec.nude and it is forbidden to discuss sex.  In fact,
most of us don't know what sex is and we plan on keeping it that way as
the major goal of all nudists is to die a virgin.  Of course, this does
have the side effect of us being unable to propogate our species.  So, we
have to rely on getting people from other newsgroups to join us.

Thus, you are all invited to read rec.nude but please don't crosspost about
sex.  Sex has nothing to do with nudity and nudity has nothing to do with sex. 

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From: mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Sky Pirates and Walker
Date: 9 Sep 92 00:54:03 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

In article <Bu6LID.1Mo@research.canon.oz.au> simon@research.canon.oz.au (Simon Walmsley) writes:
>
>Most embarressing movie? Without a doubt it would be:
>
>	"Sky Pirates"
>
 	[stuff deleted]

How about anything that Golan-Globus produces?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: edd151s@nella1.cc.monash.edu.au (Mr I.P. Rayner)
Subject: Re: Stanley Kubrick
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 10:50:43 GMT

revpk@cellar.org (Brian 'Rev P-K' Siano) writes:
>        The big question is; does anyone have any good, substantial 
>information as to what Stanley Kubrick is up to these days? I know he's been 
>supervising the transfers of his films to laser (and apparently having 
>trouble with 'Dr. Strangelove,' as no original negative exists), but what 
>about any new movies of his? Any word at all?

I read a while ago (in some magazine targetted at 15 yr old girls) that he was
working on some movie about a Polish woman during the 2nd world war.  It was
rumoured that Julia Roberts was to play the part.

Apart from this one paragraph I read a few months ago, I have heard nothing.

Ivan Rayner
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: movie with 'blows' in the title?
From: john@spss.com (John Przyborowski)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:30:31 GMT
Organization: SPSS Inc.

brian@mtl.mit.edu (brian foley) writes:


>This is for a puzzle I'm doing...

>The puzzle requires me to find out the number in a movie title
>with the word 'blows' in it. (ie. 'seven blows' or something
>like that).

>any takers?

>thanks'
>Brian

"The 400 Blows"

Great, great movie.

john
SPSS
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: jefft@athena.mit.edu (Jeff Tang)
Subject: Re: Highlander III.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
	<1992Sep8.014101.28079@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:53:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.014101.28079@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox) writes:

   You're gonna love this

   I heard that in Highlander III a band of immortals who escaped the carnage
   in Highlander I are woken up.  Turns out that they were accidentally
   buried by a landslide/avalanche and have been sleeping all this time.  Well
   they get lose and thus is spawned more hack, slash and general maiming
   action

   Sad isn't it

Well, it already sounds better than highlander 2.
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Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Date: Wed,  9 Sep 1992 13:49:47 -0400 
From: Benjamin Rudd Schoenberg <bs26+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Does anyone know the name of this Japanese movie?

That would be "Tampopo".  I think the director is Juzo Itami, and the
star is his wife, whose name I forget.  Also see "A Taxing Woman" and "A
Taxing Woman's Return" by Itami which are quite clever and funny,
although a bit more gritty.
-Ben
numbers juggler
Xref: sparky rec.arts.movies:27087 alt.censorship:7383
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.censorship
Subject: The personal alternative to bad public labeling and censorship
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:32:08 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

I hate official labeling for "offensiveness". (I hate the movie rating
system.)  I think it facilitates censorship. But what is the
alternative to official public labeling?  I think the answer is
unofficial private "labeling". An article in The Sunday, Sept. 6, 1992
Syracuse (N.Y.) Herald-American give an example of what I would like
to see more of:

The article is about Sharon Kissack's "Reel Review" service. People
who are interested and who value Ms. Kissack's opinion just call
1-900-903-1117 and get a "practicle rundown on sex, violence, obscene
language, adault content, and potentially objectional situtations in
current movies." It is 90 cents a minute (typical length of call is
1 or 2 minutes per movie).

She also has a $10 per year monthly newsletter and a telephone service
that doesn't use a 1-900 number. For more information write
  P.O. Box 566
  Homeoye Falls, NY 14472

(I have no connection to the service.)

I think this is great. I wish Tipper had started a service like this
rather than working to compel the record companies to add "official"
labels.

- Carl


ANNOTATED REFERENCES

(All these documents are available on-line. Access information follows.)

=================
library/labeling.ala
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"Statement on Labeling"

An interpretation by the American Library Association of the "Library
Bill of Rights"

It gives three reasons why labeling is bad. The first is that
"[l]abeling is an attempt to prejudice attitudes and as such, it is a
censor's tool."

=================
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These document(s) are available by anonymous ftp (the preferred
method) and by email. To get the file(s) via ftp, do an anonymous ftp
to ftp.eff.org (192.88.144.4), and get file(s):

  pub/academic/library/labeling.ala

To get the file(s) by email, send email to archive-server@eff.org.
Include the line(s) (be sure to include the space before the file
name):

send acad-freedom/library labeling.ala






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Xref: sparky rec.arts.movies:27069 alt.cult-movies:7592
From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: TRIVIA:  Potemkin quotations
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:14:05 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1992Sep8.000141.26600@news2.cis.umn.edu>, nichols@math.umn.edu (Preston Nichols) writes:
> I have been for some years been accumulating a list a movies which quote or  
> pastiche (part of) the very famous "Odessa steps" sequence from Eisenstein's
> masterpiece "The Battleship Potemkin". (To jog memories:  soldiers descending  
> the steps abreast, firing into the crowd as they go; a man with glasses shot in  
> the eye; the baby carriage rolling down the steps)
> 
> The Untouchables (Brain de Palma)
> Brazil (Terry Gilliam)
> The Monitors (U.S., about 1970, director unknown to me)
> 
> I have this feeling that I used to know of another one, but have forgotten.
> 
> Can anyone add to this list?

Bananas (Woody Allen)

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From: ft@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Frances Teagle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: bob roberts
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:06:17 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <1992Sep7.182543.6165@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:

>Do you suppose this is the reason for the tremendous economic success of
>Europe as compared to the US -- this single-minded uniformity of opinion
>that all Europeans apparently have?
>
>GMS

There's no smiley.  You are joking, aren't you?

One of them weirdo Europeans.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: conrad@ravel.udel.edu (Jon Conrad)
Subject: Re: howard's end...GYUCK!
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:42:15 GMT

In article <JWA.92Sep15020747@vipunen.hut.fi> jwa@vipunen.hut.fi (Jyrki J Wahlstedt) writes:

>  the first thing I did not understand was
>  the beginning, the first act, so to say. The incident between Helen
>  and Paul is insignificant to the whole story. In the movie it creates
>  the relationship between the two families, but that had begun already
>  earlier (in Germany). 

But from this little incident we get to know what all the characters are
like:  Helen's impulsiveness and quickness to reverse herself, Aunt
Juley's obviousness to common sense, Margaret's ability to see more than
one side to questions....  Also this episode then gives more color to
the friendship of Margaret and Mrs. Wilcox, an awkwardness that has to
be resolved.

>  I could follow the series of events easily enough, except the moment
>  when Meg accepted the proposal of Mr. Wilcox, perhaps even too easily.

Yes, that's a big surprise.  Gives us something to think about.

>  Now as I think it (in the middle of the night) what bothered me, was
>  something similar that I experienced with the novels of Dickens: the
>  characters are types, not persons developing, growing better or worse
>  (just think Uriah Heep and Micawbers (?) in "David Copperfield",
>  there are a lot of events, but they are basically the same persons
>  from beginning to end).

First of all:  this means that Dickens is a bad writer?  I could not
agree.

Second, as to Howards End itself, I think you are dead wrong.  All the
characters grow and change throughout.  Margaret is one of the more
fascinating, manysided characters in fiction -- she keeps developing and
growing all the way through.  So does Helen, so does Henry.  Even Mrs.
Wilcox, hidebound as she is, makes a real effort to understand other
ways.  It really puzzles me that you could say this.

>  This is what I think and feel. And I really cannot claim that I understand
>  the Edwardian society. I could ask, however, who does understand? The
>  person, who has read all Mr. Forster's novels? Hardly. Rather someone,
>  who has outlived the era and can analyze the experiences. Moreover
>  it depends on what is meant by understanding.

It does indeed.  You are trying to make the issue go away by
interpreting understanding to mean "know it 100% as someone who lived
then."  But that's not the common usage of the word.  It's not that hard
to understand enough of the society to be comfortable with the book.
Many of us have managed it without special intensive study.

>  One more thing: I want to say once more that slow motion upsets me
>  nearly always. 

Fine.  We all have these little quirks.  I myself can't stand clowns
(really).  They spoil any movie I see them in, and I don't like
encountering them in life either.  Possibly a good therapist could help
both of us, but it's a small enough oddity in both cases that we can
just live with it.

Jon Alan Conrad
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: tony@chemeng.Stanford.EDU (Tony Evans)
Subject: Re: Holden's Eyes (Blade Runner)
Organization: Department of Chemical Engineering, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 20:17:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.193559.1927@u.washington.edu> mcclaine@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Casey) writes:
>
>	I think it would be reasonable to say that the VOID/COMP test
>	(I think the machine name is an acronym, at least in the book)
>
>					Rob
 
Am I losing my mind?  I thought the test was called a Voight-Kampff
test in the book.

Tonman
From: yonatan@turing.toronto.edu (Jonathan Hanna)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Colorization- How? (was Re: Why I Like Colorization)
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:50:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto

In article <1992Sep8.174931.5484@tandon.com> tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.172827.22285@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> yonatan@turing.toronto.edu (Jonathan Hanna) writes:
>>I would be surprised if there is any serious automation competing with
>>the artist sweatshops, it seems like too tough an AI problem, even
>>tracing aides like edge detectors may be fooled too often.
>
>Actually, I think that the computer *does* do most of the
>work.  The artists are there to get the coloring off to a good
>start by painting a frame, but then the computer takes over to
>do most of the work.  The artists is still there and can
>examine the computer colored frame to do touch-ups.  You can

Any idea how?  Tinteretto (a Toronto company) used a room full of grunts
to paint frames.  No fancy image analysis.  The computer just put frames on the
screen and the grunts coloured (I hesitate to use "painted" as the "artists"
did not have to worry about tint or shade).
Most of the work consisted of staying within the borders, using the right
palette colour, and noticing when a new object became visible.
I don't know what the state of the art is now but I would consider anything
that requires the computer to "understand" a natural image pretty impressive.
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: amanda@cam.compserv.utas.edu.au
Subject: Re Far and Away character names
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 06:37:43 GMT

In answer to your question about character names for "Far and Away", 

Tom Cruise:  Joseph Donnelly

Nicole Kidman: Shannon(en?) Christie


I think this is right!

There is a book out I saw here in Australia recently that gives the story of
the production.  Is quite an interesting read.


Amanda
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: movie ratings report
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:10:25 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA
Originator: gharris@jade.tufts.edu

In article <1992Sep9.1489.28575@channel1> "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
>CM>z    Subject: Movie Ratings Report
>CM> *    .....21211       7   7.7  Unforgiven, The
>
>     Let's straighten out one little problem:  the name of the movie is
>     simply "Unforgiven."  "The Unforgiven" is an entirely different movie,
>     from 1960 and having more to do with rival families and Indian battles
>     than one old gunfighter's return from retirement.

	The thing is, there is a movie titled The Unforgiven from about 1960.
I assumed that's what the line was for, and so didn't vote for it as I haven't
seen it.  However, I can see where the confusion could occur.  Perhaps 
including the year in movies whose titles are so similar, not just identical,
would be advisable.

> ~ SLMR 2.1a ~ Spaceballs the Tagline!
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From: mlh@eddy.austin.ibm.com (Mike Haskell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most Embarassing Movie
Keywords: n
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:44:03 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

In article <Sep.5.16.58.20.1992.23711@romulus.rutgers.edu> moakler@romulus.rutgers.edu (bam!) writes:
>I actually went to see 'Yor, the Hunter from the Future' in the
>theaters during my wayward youth. The movie contains one of the
>stupidest sequences ever filmed, namely, when Yor kills a pterodactyl
>and uses it as a hang glider.
>
>Red Sonja with Brigitte Nielsen, the world's most wooden actress, was
>horrible, too
>

Oh my.  I forgot that particular stoopid movie, Red Sonya.  I think I
seriously blocked it from my memory.  If you want to see Arnold
Schwarznegger look like an Oscar winner (I am deadly serious)
go see that film.  Everyone else IS acting that badly.  I have a
question though.  Did he state his "I'll be back" line in this
celluloid landfill of a movie?  I'm curious, but not so much that 
I would EVER see that film again...
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Leon Redbone?
Date: 7 Sep 92 03:25:30 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Sep5.224838.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, 
rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:

>> Leon Redbone (the guy in the white suit in the GEO commercials singing 
>> "getting to know you ...") was once in a movie...

> I don't remember this movie but he did serve as singing narrator in a 
> wonderful episode of Life Goes On...

And he lives near Philadelphia...very reclusive.  Ever hear his 
"Frosty the Snowman" with Dr. John?!?  Great stuff!!!

Greg Bole                                    "The ants in the grass, they
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  were just doing their thing."
                                            Matt Dillon in _Drugstore Cowboy_
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: wallis@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Mindy Wallis)
Subject: Re: great voices
Organization: Institute for the Learning Sciences
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 20:13:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.223658.29560@umbc3.umbc.edu>, maher@umbc4.umbc.edu
(Dr. Michael Maher; ACS (GUEST)) writes:
> 
> I have only followed this thread intermittently, but
> seem to notice a predominance of men's voices.  I certainly
> endorse Sir Ralph Richardson's name recently  entered, and
> would add Paul Scofield, whom I recently heard on stage in
> London.

Yes, I concur.
> 
> However, there is a certain well bred, almost musical voice
> one used to hear in movies, and I'm sure on stage in the 
> 30's, which would be hard to imagine today.  Think of the
> voice of the good witch Gwendolyn? in Wizard of Oz.  Also 
> the wife of the chief psychiatrist in Harvey, which ran 
> recently on television.  Can anyone remember other such
> actresses.  Perfect diction and a gentle lilting tone.

The actress you're thinking of (who played Glinda the Good Witch, not
Gwendolyn) is Billie Burke (who was, incidentally, married to Florenz
Ziegfeld of Ziegfeld Follies fame.)

For great women's voices I would also add Jean Arthur (noted for screwball
comedies of the 30s and 40s: You Can't Take It With You, Mr. Smith Goes to
Washington, The More the Merrier, etc.)

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Northwestern University
From: bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: sex in movies
Keywords: and violence, and kids
Date: 4 Sep 92 21:54:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ohio University School of Art. Athens

In article <1992Aug31.182856.16958@tandon.com> tdbear@tandon.com (Tom Barrett) writes:

>well-informed parent can then decide if they want to expose
>their children to the movie.

I agree, but the problem seems to be more one of inconsiderate parents
exposing everyone else to their kids. How much will a child enjoy a 
movie like 'Unforgiven'. If they're bored to death within ten minutes
they'll have nothing to do but make noise. Since thier parents have already
shown themselves to be brain dead morons who have learned to tune the kids
out they won't mind but the rest of us have to put up with the noise from the
kids and the parents saying 'Shut up' for two hours.


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From: otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Suspense in Aliens (Re: Alien 3 - A Real Good Movie)
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 01:41:54 EDT
Organization: Jyvaskyla Electronic Mailbox

wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes) writes:

> In article <1992Sep04.145239.41790@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks
> >What??  You mean you thought you went to to go see the sequel, in which you
> >knew before hand that it should be about the Alien creatures, and you 
> >thought the first time that something else was going to happen??? Like, mayb
> >Daffy Duck had killed everyone???
> 
> Actually, my vote was for Elmer Fudd...

Nooo... he's the one who killed the missing replicant in Blade Runner.

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