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From: jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras)
Subject: Gazza in trouble
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:19:35 GMT

Just heard this morning on BBC World Service that Paul Gascoigne was fined
20 million lire (approx $14,000) by Lazio for belching into a TV microphone. 
Apparently, after the Lazio-Juventus game last Sunday a TV camera approached
Gazza and the presenter asked him a question to which Gascoigne responded with
a "massive burp" (this was the term used by BBC World Service).

Needless to say I had a good laugh first thing in the morning.
The man is an absolute nutcase. I wonder if the pedantic Geordie now qualifies 
for the most expensive burp in history.

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From: reidkb@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Kenneth B Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: FANZines
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:50:20 GMT
Organization: Computing Sci, Glasgow Univ, Scotland

In article <C16wIt.5tn@eis.calstate.edu> sgilmou@eis.calstate.edu (Stephen Gilmour) writes:
>mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Does anyone out there read fanzines?
>
>Yes.
>
>> which ones? 
>
>The best one:  Follow, Follow The Rangers Fanzine.
>
>For a subscription write to:
>Follow, Follow
>P.O. Box 539,
>Glasgow,
>G11 7LT,
>Scotland.
>
>Stephen.
>


Cant agree with this, although I do buy Follow Follow. It was good in its 
early days, but lately it has got far too political- really boring discussions
on (e.g.) "How can Rangers' fans sing 'God Save The Queen' when everyone wants
her out/ Scotland to be independent. The cover price is too high also (1 quid).

The best Scottish fanzines are (IMHO):

Rangers- No1.
Celtic- Not the view. (even although they printed something of mine and didnt
	give me any credit for it).
General Scottish- The Absolute Game.
General British- When Saturday Comes.

Has anyone else out there noticed the similarity between Coronation Street's
Tracey Barlow and promising Rangers' midfielder Sandy Robertson?

The Boy Reid
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From: cjones@dbaccess.com (Carl Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Referee Fee Info Needed
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:56:35 GMT
Organization: Cross Access Corp., Santa Clara, CA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Our AYSO organization does not pay officials, although we have
discussed what compensation we might provide youth.  The adults
are volunteers.  We provide uniforms and training.

The CYSA (like USYSA?) league pays the referees, youth and adults,
but the fees are, I think, independent of the age group.  My 15
year old son referees for them, and gets $20 per game, whether
center, line, or two-man system.  He does mostly U12 and U14.
I do U16 and U19 CYSA and have been paid $25-$30.  The amounts vary
with the league; we have many.

He and I do an adult womens league, three man, pay is $18 center, $16 line.
I have refereed the local adult league, but forget the rate: somewhere
between $25 and $40.
I did High School last year, 2-man, about $28 for just Varsity, and $44
for varsity and jv combined.  I have been doing college games and they
pay $50-$65 (center gets 0-5 more than line).

Except for AYSO, uniforms, training, and certification expenses are
the responsibility of the referee.

hope this is useful.
carl jones
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From: andyj@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy James)
Subject: Re: Man Utd vs Brighton (FA Cup)
Summary: Re: Man Utd vs Brighton (FA Cup)
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 10:42:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.182250.26563@unislc.uucp>, ppj@unislc.uucp (Peter Jones) writes:
> When is this being played? Our local paper said that Aston Villa played
> Brighton and beat them is this correct ?
> 
> Peter jones

	Man Utd (who ?) play Brighton and Hove Albion in the fourth
round of the FA Cup on 23/01/92 at Old Trafford, (My prediction 2-1 to
the Albion). In a replay of the 1983 Cup Final, which United were lucky
to win after a replay. Your local paper probably meant to say Aston Villa beat
Bristol Rovers (3-1) in the third round.

	Andy James
 
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From: marco@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Marco Petroni)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Home cities for Italian teams.
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:50:20 GMT
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines, Montreal, Canada

In article <1993Jan25.183734.23615@ennews.eas.asu.edu> yhartojo@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Francis Hartojo) writes:
>
>     Hi soccer fans, I have a somewhat unusual question for you.  I've been
>following Italian league soccer quite closely in this newsgroup and whenever
>I can on TV, but I don't know some of the teams' home cities.  Of course,
>there are some very obvious ones like:  Milan, Inter, Torino, etc., but what
>about Juventus or Sampdoria?  I'd really like to know their home cities in
>case they're playing their town rival, if there's any.

Juventus' home city is Torino and Sampdoria's home city is Genoa...

Regards,

Marco...
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From: climiepd@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Delbert ( Peter Climie ))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: TUESDAY'S SCOTTISH RESULTS
Date: 28 Jan 93 11:28:11 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:



>here's last night's results from scotland if anyone is interested.....

>and tonight....it's partick thistle v dundee...

>Partick have leigh palin out through injury after their success over airdrie in
>the tennents sixes, dundee have dinnie and super simon out through suspension.
>If dundee win then we go above thistle on goal difference into 8th place.
>Partick have suffered really badly since the 0-7 v the sheepies, with only a
>handful of points since then. Dundee have won both their games so far this
>year. So it should be a good match. 

Before the match Thistle paraded the trophy that Liam Brady hoped would keep
him in ajob.

After a few early crunching Dundee tackles which the ref ignored, Thistle
settled down and started playing football again for the first match in ages.
Duffy (Thistle reject) seemed to forget that you could actually go in for 
tackles using only one leg. PK got Thistles first, vollying a lovely cross 
at a tight angle. The Jags (D Irons especially) created plenty of chances
and Dundee as usual this season could only watch.

Dundee had a man sent off in the 2nd half (about time) but managed to step
up a gear and make us look like we'd ten. Towards the end of the match Briton
made the points safe when he had just the keeper to beat. We could have scored
a few more and Dundee will have no complaints. Can't wait to make it 4in a row!

>oh yeah, and my prediction is 2-1 to dundee....
close!

Now we start our challenge on Rangers:-)
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From: dmg@st-andrews.ac.uk (David Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: ############# UK fans, PLEASE GO! ###############
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:28:04 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

In article <1993Jan26.115640.14311@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:
>
>>In article <1993Jan21.010042.6383@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, pampa@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (ruben.a.mazzulla) writes:
>
>>oh well. We in the UK will just piss off so you can get through the messages
>
>
>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>>John B at the DIT
>><e-mail : mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk.
>>FORZA MILAN!!!   FORZA DUNDEE!!!   FORZA SAO PAULO!!!
>>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>
>You still don't get it? English soccer is technically and tactically INFERIOR
>to European soccer. It's a lot of trouble first having to get through all 
>that only-important-to-you crap, so why don't you just create an own newsgroup?
>Or aren't there enough English soccer-fans to do that?
>
>Greetings from Europe!
>
>
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>-     in white and red!            \/        HOLLAND                           -

You still persist with this!
Yet Dutch football is useless! There is a massive difference in class between
the top 3 and the rest - yet even in the top 3 only one (Ajax) has a good
record.
Psv and Feyenoord are only average by European standards!
The football is predictable and boring to watch- thats why hardly anyone
watches it and most top Dutch players play abroad!

As for enough English or Scottish fans - how many Dutch fans are there?
Or is Dutch football so boring that they never bother to write?


ps - ok this is a stupid posting (apologies to all other Dutch fans out there)
but I dropped my mental age to that of the previous poster for a few
seconds.
and its in the spirit of the previous posting ; also theres probably more
truth in this one than Mischas!
From: root@skorpion.lt (Almantas Lauzadis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: ExSU Cup in Moscow
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 08:30:31 +0200
Distribution: world
Organization: SKORPIONAS Ltd, Panevezys, Lithuania
Reply-To: root@skorpion.lt

exSU Cup in Moscow 25-31.01.1993

25-27.01.1993
Group A
Skonto Riga - Neftchi Baku             1:0
Skonto Riga - Spartak Moscow           0:7
Neftchi Baku - Spartak Moscow          0:8

1. Spartak Moscow      2  2 0 0  15: 0  4   (Russia)
2. Skonto Riga         2  1 0 1   1: 7  2   (Latvia)
3. Neftchi Baku        2  0 0 2   0: 9  0   (Azerbajdzan)

Group B
Dinamo Tbilisi - Pahtakor Tashkent      5:2
Simbrul Kishinev - Kopet-Dag Ashhabad   0:7
Dinamo Tbilisi - Simbrul Kishinev       3:1
Pahtakor Taskent - Kopet-Dag Ashhabad   3:1
Dinamo Tbilisi - Kopet-Dag Ashhabad     2:2
Simbrul Kishinev - Pahtakor Taskent      :

1. Dinamo Tbilisi      3  2 1 0  10: 5  5   (Georgia)
2. Kopet-Dag Ashhabad  3  1 1 1   9: 6  3   (Turkmenistan)
3. Pahtakor Tashkent   2  1 0 1   5: 6  2   (Uzbekistan)
4. Simbrul Kishinev    2  0 0 2   2: 9  0   (Moldova)

Group C
Kairat Alma-Ata - Alga Bishkek          3:2
Ekranas Panevezys - Alga Bishkek        5:1
Ekranas Panevezys - Kairat Alma-Ata     0:0

1. Ekranas Panevezys   2  1 1 0   5: 1  3   (Lithuania)
2. Kairat Alma-Ata     2  1 1 0   3: 2  3   (Kazahstan)
3. Alga Bishkek        2  0 0 2   3: 8  0   (Kirgistan)

Group D
Belarus Minsk - Hometmen Erevan         2:0
Norma Tallinn - Regar Tursun-Zade       5:0
Belarus Minsk - Norma Tallinn           1:0
Hometmen Erevan - Regar Tursun-Zade     2:1
Belarus Minsk - Regar Tursun-Zade       6:2
Hometmen Erevan - Norma Tallinn          :

1. Belarus Minsk       3  3 0 0   9: 2  6   (Belarussia)
2. Norma Tallinn       2  1 0 1   5: 1  2   (Estonia)
3. Hometmen Erevan     2  1 0 1   2: 3  2   (Armenia)
4. Regar Tursun-Zade   3  0 0 3   3:13  0   (Tadjikistan)

29.01.1993 Semifinal
Spartak Moscow - Dinamo Tbilisi
Ekranas Panevezys - Belarus Minsk

31.01.1993 Final

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From: raj@phys.ksu.edu (S. Raj Chaudhury)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: United-Villa comparison
Date: 23 Jan 1993 23:51:55 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: bohr.phys.ksu.edu

>In <1993Jan22.111411.1810@hsr.no> trygve@hsr.no (Trygve Svendsen) writes:

>>Keywords: 



>>Well, after reading a lot of articles about United and Villa lately 
>>I have decided to make a evaluation of the two teams.
>>I think it is fair to say that one of these two will win the Premier League.
>>As far as I am concerned, only two other clubs have a remote chance of winning
>>it, Blackburn and Arsenal.(In that order).

>>Villa and United both play the 4-4-2 so it is easy to make a straight-forward
>>comparison between them. Well, here it goes:

>>Goalkeeper: 
>>           United: Peter Schmeichel.
>>           Villa : Nigel Spink.

>>Defence:
>>        United:Parker,Bruce,Pallister,Irwin.
>>        Villa :Barrett,Teale,McGrath,Staunton.


THe problem in the US is of course getting to watch only 1 game per week
and maybe some highlights. I have been able to watch both Villa and United
recently.  I am a Villa supporter - hence clearly biased. But United's
speed impressed me, though Giggs clearly hangs on to the ball too long...
I saw Blackburn-Oldham this morning and was not terribly impressed with
Rovers, though they did show some good stuff in the last 20 minutes...

Gooooo VILLA!!!

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From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: Liverpool bid for Scales
Organization: Wits University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 14:55:56 RSA

Wimbledon turned down a 2 million pound offer for Scales. When is this
Circus at Merseyslide going to end. Why dont Souness just buy the
Championship, it's much easier. ....and people think Man Utd were bad.
 
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From: dmg@st-andrews.ac.uk (David Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: ############# UK fans, PLEASE GO! ###############
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:43:55 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

In article <1993Jan27.162804.10187@st-andrews.ac.uk> dmg@st-andrews.ac.uk (David Gill) writes:
>In article <1993Jan26.115640.14311@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>>
>>You still don't get it? English soccer is technically and tactically INFERIOR
>>to European soccer. It's a lot of trouble first having to get through all 
>>that only-important-to-you crap, so why don't you just create an own newsgroup?
>>Or aren't there enough English soccer-fans to do that?
>>
>>Greetings from Europe!
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>-  Q: Why do I like white beans in /\  Mischa Bronstring (bronstri@fwi.uva.nl) -
>>-     tomatosauce?                 \/    Schoterbosstraat 15                   -
>>-  A: Because PSV Eindhoven plays  /\      2023 TR  Haarlem                    -
>>-     in white and red!            \/        HOLLAND                           -
>
>You still persist with this!
>Yet Dutch football is useless! There is a massive difference in class between
>the top 3 and the rest - yet even in the top 3 only one (Ajax) has a good
>record.
>Psv and Feyenoord are only average by European standards!
>The football is predictable and boring to watch- thats why hardly anyone
>watches it and most top Dutch players play abroad!
>
>As for enough English or Scottish fans - how many Dutch fans are there?
>Or is Dutch football so boring that they never bother to write?
>
>
>ps - ok this is a stupid posting (apologies to all other Dutch fans out there)
>but I dropped my mental age to that of the previous poster for a few
>seconds.
>and its in the spirit of the previous posting ; also theres probably more
>truth in this one than Mischas!


I'd just like to make it clear that I don't really think Dutch football
is crap! I just wanted to point out how stupid these type of postings are.
I think any real football fan enjoys watching any football - of course
they will prefer one league to another. 
example:                                 I enjoy British football much
more than the Itallian on Channel 4 - but if there isn't a British game
on I'll watch the Italian and still enjoy it! 

David

PS I'm also not saying British football is better than Italian :
just that I prefer it!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: JI.RCB@ISUMVS.IASTATE.EDU
Subject: Re: US Cup '93
Organization: Iowa State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:02:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.210841.21499@midway.uchicago.edu>,
fejd@ellis.uchicago.edu (Jim Drogos) writes:
>
>I don't know if this has been posted as of yet.
>
>The US will play Germany on June 13th, in Chicago (Soldier Field),
>as part of the '93 US CUP. I belive this leaves only the June 10th
>match between Brazil and Germany without a site to be chosen.
>
Ticketmaster started sales for this match last Monday.  I believe the
game time has not yet been announced.  Ticket costs are $15, $25 and
$35.
From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Celtic Re-sign Jinky Johnstone
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:28:58 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

There was a classic in yesterdays Sunday Mail from that great orator Liam
Brady which probably qualifies him for a seat on the board.

                       "Gazza For Celtic!" by Alex Gordon

English international superstar Paul Gasgoine could be playing at Parkhead
this year! But Celtic are not poised to make a sensational transfer bid for
the $5.5 million-rated attcking midfielder.

Liam Brady will fly to Rome today to have talks with Gazza's club Lazio in an
attempt to arrange a glamour friendly in Glasgow.

The Celtic manager told me last night: "Our fans deserve to see the best.
That's why I'll be trying to bring Lazio and Gazza to Parkhead. A club of
Celtic's standing must be seen to compete at this level. I'll also talk to my
old club Inter Milan. They, too, would be a good draw at Parkhead..."

Blah, blah, blah.....


In disecting this piece of certain parts stand out like sponsors on a Celtic
jersey:

1) "Glamour friendly" - with Rome's second team. Well OK, it is Glasgow's
third team after all.

2) "A club of Celtic's standing must be seen to compete at this level" - now
pardon me, but doesn't the UEFA Cup give Celtic such a platform and the
reason they aren't playing European opposition is that they couldn't compete!
Have they run out of back doors .... And what level perchance, that of Clyde
maybe, or the also-rans in the Premier League?

3) "a good draw at Parkhead" - well they wouldn't manage to beat them anyway!
Would the crowd be greater than the 16,000 that watched Clyde last week?

4) It'll probably be the only European teams visiting Parkhead this year
judging by the current league positions.

Enter stage left Paul and Chris.....

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From: antonio@arezzo.oas.olivetti.com (Antonio Maiuolo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Milan and high-priced players
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:50:59 GMT
Reply-To: antonio@arezzo.oas.olivetti.com (Antonio Maiuolo)
Organization: Olivetti Research California

In article <1993Jan22.133000.14253@fwi.uva.nl>, bronstri@fwi.uva.nl
(Mischa Bronstring) writes:
> mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:
> 
> >In article <2117@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, rlpst@cislabs.pitt.edu (Robert L
Pack) writes:
> >> 
> 
> >Some of Milan's best players this season didn't cost much, ie: Van
Basten was
> >only $3million, Gullit about $4.5million, not much compared to what is being
> >paid today. I admit $25million for Lentini is ridiculous.
> 
> 
> Some corrections:
> 
> Van Basten was about $0.5 million (those early days...),
> Gullit costed about $7 million (Hfl. 17 million)
> 
> I also admit $25 million for Lentini is ridiculous, taking his performance
> in consideration. I think he played much better when he was still playing

I think his performance has not been bad at all so far. after all he's always a
starter, and I don't think Capello just lets him play because of hist price ...

> for Torino. But the very high price of Roberto Baggio is not ridiculous,

					^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I think
it's ridicolous as well, and the Vialli price is ridicolous as well, for
the same
reasons you say lentini's price is ridicolous ... Look at what Juventus
paid for
both of 'em and look where Juventus is now in the standings...

> I believe. Such a good player, that always scores and almost never has
							^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Come on, sometimes
he doesn't even see the ball, and he's not a fighter for sure!

			         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Tell this to Signori (17 goals in 16 games)

> 'bad games', may cost a penny more. After all, look at the Sevilla-example

		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Looks like it's a scandal just when Milan puts
money on the table,
let's have a look on how other 'supposedly great' teams used the money
(Inter, Juventus, Roma, Lazio ...)

> with Maradona, spectacular transfers mean more season-tickets...

  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ I would let the Maradona business out of soccer, He
really sucked too much!!!

> 
> 
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> -     in white and red!            \/        HOLLAND                  
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