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From: aktan@mothra.syr.EDU (Andre Kian-An Tan)
Subject: Re: Idiotic Games I have Played
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:27:36 EST

In article <1992Dec12.113730.61985@cc.usu.edu> sl1t4@cc.usu.edu (CORKY) writes:
>> We used to end days with standoffs--this was purely up to those
>> who wanted to; very few people actually played it; it was fun to
>> watch.  The rules were very simple; two people, fixed amount of paint,
>> (usually 10 or 20 rds), about 50 feet apart, give or take 25 feet.
>> 
>> You both start shooting, and keep shooting until one or the other person
>> is out of paint, at which point you BOTH stop shooting.  The person
>> with the most amount of paint on them loses.  We played in an open
>> field.
>> 
>> I thought it was a blast.  It also cured me of flinching when I am
>> hit (an asset on those bouncers) and when under a hail-storm of
>> paint.  Not for the light-hearted, but simply standing through the
>> experience made me feel giddy.
>> 
>I've played this!!! We actually have a name for it.  SCAR FACE, except we
>didn't care howmany rounds people had, and who ever gave up first lost.  I'm so
>glad to hear some body say that they've played this game.  I thought I was the
>only nutsoid in the world!

Sheeesh... Were you the kids in grammar school who used to play "bloody 
knuckles" in the back of the bus???  Nice to see that masochism is alive and
well....  :}

 - Andre
-- 
Andre Tan ==== <aktan@rodan.acs.syr.edu>
    "A flute without holes is not a flute, and a donut without
		              a hole is a danish..." 
    "Any fool can make a rule..." - Henry David Thoreau
From: crm4@po.CWRU.Edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Phantom express for sale
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:47:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


I have a Component Concepts Phantom express that I want rid of.
It has a 14" smart parts barrel, custom bottom-line type stock
(bottom-line, meaning that you can actually sight right down the
barrel WITH your mask on!), bulk feeder, and a couple of silencers.
Also, I'll throw in my harness w/ guppies, and a pair of JT
thermal snappers.

				$300, or even better yet, make me
				an offer!
		
				Chuck Martin
p.s. reply via email, or call me at 216-428-2369 at home in Madison
Oh. Calling would probably be best, as vacation is starting.
By the way, the gun is in VERY GOOD shape.
From: billc@mpd.tandem.com (Bill Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Smart Parts Barrel??????
Summary: The Meaning of Life.
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:37:20 GMT
Reply-To: billc@zippy.UUCP (Bill Carter)
Organization: Tandem Computers, Austin TX

In article <1gje1eINNfe4@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> crm4@po.CWRU.Edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>You would be downright foolish to actually pay what they are getting
>for these barrels, unless, of course, you have no machine shop
>access, in which case it sucks to be you.

   Well, I've often suspected that it sucks to be me but now I know.
   And to think that machine shop access was the critical gating
   factor, what blinding simplicity!

   Revelations aside, if it's so cheap and quick to make 'em, how
   about whipping out a few for my Illustrator?  I'll want graduated
   inside diameters and barrel lengths, of course, so that I can
   be prepared for any conditions.

   Striving to be as cool as I can be,
   Bill Carter
From: tegray@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Thomas E. Gray)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: A New Paint
Date: 20 Dec 92 15:53:24 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <89364@bcsaic.boeing.com> tazumar@bcsaic.boeing.com (Ronald Tazuma) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.135554.18534@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> bru@chaucer.cc.bellcore.com writes:
>>
>>I was speaking to the folks at Air Gun Designs re barrel lengths
>>and discovered that they (or someone they are very closely
>>associated with) will be coming out with a new (revolutionary if
>>it does what they say) type of paintball.  It will be 99% round and
>>will NOT be affected by moisture.  They advertise it in the bottom
>>of a fish bowl.  
>
>When will this stuff be readily available?  I wouldn't mind paying extra

Yes! Please post ordering information or the names of places where you
have seen the ad when this comes out. I cannot imagine anyone who would
not want to switch to this product. 
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From: rotheroe@convex.com (Dave Rotheroe)
Subject: Re: SILENCERS?????
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:28:06 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1gr9uvINNlj9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> crm4@po.CWRU.Edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:


> 	Honestly, I think it is downright foolish for anyone to
>worry about the FFL's laws on paintball silencers. What are they 
>going to do? Send special agents after you and arrest you???
> [ much deleted ]

Ok, you obviously know better, so why am I even writing this?  Well maybe
someone else will read this and do what I did:  Fisrt, I looked up
Department of the Treasury in the phone book (try a major city).  Then I
looked for the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco & Firearms listing under that.
Then I called them.  What a concept!  If you're like me, you'll get shuffled
around a bit, but if you keep asking the right questions, you'll eventually
get to someone who both knows what they're talking about and is willing to
talk with you.  The information I received convinced me it was not worth
making one (and in general I'm a risk taker).  Yes, they admitted there was
a very slim chance of anything happening, but the law is quite specific and
the consequences quite severe.

==================================================================8--<
Dave Rotheroe                rotheroe@convex.com              DoD#0045
CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, TX 75083-3851, (214) 497-4512
Death is a reward for being responsible.
From: sjm3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (SALEM JON MAZZAWY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: CA PROBLEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:22:33 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I've got a problem.   I have a Cal Ordnance Mercenary with a back bottle set
up.   When I first got it, I just used a micro-ca.   I did buy a bottle and
when I went to thread it in, I found that the when the threads ended on the
tank side of the valve, there was too much metal left (higher than the low
part on the threads)   This extra brass binds with the threads on the gun so I
can't get the bottle all the way on.   I bought the bottle about a half year
before I got to play with it so I don't know if I can return it.   Any ideas?

it look sort of like this:       ________   -top
                                /        \
                               /          \
                               \          /
                threads-        \        /
                                /        \
                               /          \
                               \          /
this part is too wide-          l        l     -bottom by bottle

Thanks for any help-   Salem
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From: petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch (Peter John Kunz)
Subject: Re: Field Guide
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:14:32 GMT

In article <BzCvzt.ErL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ROGERS@UIMRL3.MRL.UIUC.EDU (Brian L. Rogers) writes:
>
>You really know how to throw me a curve, dont ya.

no isult intended

>	Data structure altered to include 2 character wide 
>data field for country (using standard abreviations for 
>country names).

great

tnx
-pete



-- 
Peter J. Kunz	Vogesenstr. 60	4106 Therwil	Switzerland
petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch	pkunz@amiga.physik.unizh.ch
From: gt1158@terapin.com (Guillermo Talamantes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: USI.....NOT!!!
Date: 15 Dec 92 08:24:26 GMT
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Dec10.211213.19436@netcom.com>, albertw@netcom.com (The Email
Otaku) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.131039.1@woods.ulowell.edu> lombardif@woods.ulowell.edu

albertw@netcom.com writes:

>
>Ah, you play this thing too, eh?  The Danger Zone, in Milpitas(?)/Newark,
>CA has such a game.  It's aptly called "Insane No Brain".  Basically a free
>for all, you can't die, just shoot till you run out.  And 10 cent/ball,
>only the insane people would play that.  I stood on the back wall, waiting
>for the game to end...I'm that that rich.  Amazingly, a lot of the people
>actually "played" this game. ^_^;


Yeah, I've played the Danger Zone in Newark, Ca. (milpitas is just accross the
overpass, stupid huh?) And they're too millitary! All along the walls in the 
visitors/break area, they have BIG pictures/paintings of these guys in Urban
Camo, crouched down with what appears to be gas masks, a paintball gun, and an
obvious *KNIFE* in a sheath tied to their legs!!!! IF they have this kind of
propaganda on their walls, and play "Insane No Brain" games (we call it playing
*EMPTY*), then they give the sport of paintball a BAD name. Especially since
they're located in one of the biggest malls in Northern California. With this
much publicity, and with their apparent exccesive (in my view) military aspects
of the game, then the public (in my neighborhood) will have an even HARDER time
accepting the fact that Paintballers are after all, NOT paranoid Republicans,
war-mongers, war-lovers, etc...

Well, That's it for the Danger-Zone. Think I'll try Battle-Zone, Fair-Game is
cool also, but I think I'll stick with Paintball Hill and Prime-Time. Later...



        KEEP
              THOSE
                     BALLS
                            FLYING!!!



LONG LIVE THE PRO/AM!!!!!
From: scholtes@rhrk.uni-kl.de (Joerg Scholtes [Physik])
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: PMI III-Problems !
Date: 16 Dec 92 08:53:28 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: University of Kaiserslautern, Germany

Friends of mine bought PMI III's recently and now they have the usual problems
with them: They're leaking in cold weather (and it's very cold here right now).
Can somebody please give me some information how they can get their guns
to work again as good as in summer? I don't know if it's possible as we don't
get all the paintball-equipment here in Germany (at reasonable prices).

Moreover I have a problem of my own. It's called Razorback III and isn't
working at all in winter (also leaking, but more than the PMI's) . If somebody
could give me some advice, I would think about not throwing it away immediatly.

I'm sorry if these were FAQ's, but I don't look at the newsgroups so often- 
so I don't know if they were already answered several times.

                                  Christine

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From: bbs-mike@jwt.UUCP (Mike Danseglio)
Subject: Re: Florida fields?
Reply-To: bbs-mike@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 11:50:37 GMT

> In article <1992Dec16.123146.14674@samba.oit.unc.edu> Rich.Rubel@launchpad.un
> >
> >My turn to ask...  I'll be in Orlando, fl. over Christmas, and was
> >wondering where the local fields are.  I know Enterprise 1701 sells

Enterprise 1701 doesn't carry ANY paintball supplies any more.  They
were repeatedly robbed, and the theives were only taking paintball
equipment, so they got out of the business.

Haven't been to Hurricane yet, but I enjoy Pursuit Paintball field.
Give them a call at 407-843-3456.  They can give you the schedule for
that weekend, any special events, directions, etc.  They're actually
on Disney property.  And their field charge is only $5 per day, plus
$12 per box of paint.

Mike
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: ROGERS@UIMRL3.MRL.UIUC.EDU (Brian L. Rogers)
Subject: Re: Field Guide
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24
Organization: MATERIALS RESEARCH LAB - UNIVERSITY OF ILLINOIS
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:23:52 GMT

In <1992Dec16.122022.9124@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch writes:

> In article <1glmt2INNp3o@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> rogers@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu writes:
> >Ok, work has begun on the paintball field database.
> 
> great!
> 
> >The listing will, I hope, be broken down into state with,
> >again I hope, fields which carry insurance listed first.
> >
> >I would, at least for the first couple postings, like to keep the
> >number of states down to only those that people are interested in.
> >
> what aboiut other countries?
> a) lotsa non us netters
> b) who knows, maybe someone will travel wand want to play....
> 
> 

You really know how to throw me a curve, dont ya.

	Data structure altered to include 2 character wide 
data field for country (using standard abreviations for 
country names).

> 
> 
> cu
> -pete
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Peter J. Kunz	Vogesenstr. 60	4106 Therwil	Switzerland
> petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch	pkunz@amiga.physik.unizh.ch
> 

Me, on a different account

blur@uiuc.edu
Brian L. Rogers
From: brian@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Brian Louis Rogers  (BLuR))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Laws of Paintball
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:18:45 GMT
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In article <1992Dec19.014108.18011@eng.ufl.edu>, bjs@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian
J. Smith) writes:
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|>From: bjs@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Brian J. Smith)
|>Subject: Laws of Paintball
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|>First Law of Ball Breakage in Paintball
|>
|>If you carry a squiggy on the field, a ball will not break.
|>
|>If you forget your squiggy, the first ball out of the barrel
|>will break, regardless of where you are.


I AGREE!  At least feels that way.



|>Bjs
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From: sl1t4@cc.usu.edu (CORKY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Idiotic Games I have Played
Date: 12 Dec 92 11:37:30 MDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Utah State University

> We used to end days with standoffs--this was purely up to those
> who wanted to; very few people actually played it; it was fun to
> watch.  The rules were very simple; two people, fixed amount of paint,
> (usually 10 or 20 rds), about 50 feet apart, give or take 25 feet.
> 
> You both start shooting, and keep shooting until one or the other person
> is out of paint, at which point you BOTH stop shooting.  The person
> with the most amount of paint on them loses.  We played in an open
> field.
> 
> I thought it was a blast.  It also cured me of flinching when I am
> hit (an asset on those bouncers) and when under a hail-storm of
> paint.  Not for the light-hearted, but simply standing through the
> experience made me feel giddy.
> 
I've played this!!! We actually have a name for it.  SCAR FACE, except we
didn't care howmany rounds people had, and who ever gave up first lost.  I'm so
glad to hear some body say that they've played this game.  I thought I was the
only nutsoid in the world!

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Hear me you Lords and Lady preachers. I decend upon your earth from the skies.
I command your very souls you unbelievers! Now, afford me what is mine.
		And I'll take you to the Seven Seas of Rhye.

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From: jimfost@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jim Foster)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball,alt.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Field Guide
Date: 16 Dec 1992 11:12:42 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
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Keywords: fields

petekunz@iiic.ethz.ch (Peter John Kunz) writes:

>In article <1glmt2INNp3o@roundup.crhc.uiuc.edu> rogers@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu writes:
>what aboiut other countries?
>a) lotsa non us netters
>b) who knows, maybe someone will travel wand want to play....

For that matter, I'd be interested in field prices/regualtions/whatnot from non-
US nations. Some of us would like to travel and play outside the US!


-- 
Jim Foster                [ "I am a meticulous man; when I portray baboons I  ]
jimfost@matt.ksu.ksu.edu  [  leave no stern untoned."                         ]
Kansas State University   [                        -- Ogden Nash              ]
From: d1temp@dtek.chalmers.se (Michael Tempsch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: HEAT STALKER
Date: 15 Dec 92 07:22:47 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

I saw an ad about this device in the last number of Paintball Magazine
It's supposed to detect the bodyheat of camoflaged players before you 
can see them with your unaided eyes...

So... Anyone outthere that has seen or used this device?
If so: does it work? only in relatively cold surroundings? not among sunheated
rocks? what's the price? is it worth it?



--
|   BTW, all electronic components            |   d1temp@dtek.chalmers.se    |
|   run on smoke. If you let the smoke out,   |   In real life               |
|   they won't work anymore.                  |   Michael Tempsch            |
From: gt1158@terapin.com (Guillermo Talamantes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Teams in the Bay Area
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:53:54 PST
Organization: BBS


     I'd like some information on teams in the S.F. Bay area, preferably the
East Bay (Oakland). I've been playing P-B for about three years and have my own
equiptment and have been a field ref for about three months. I wish to join a
RECREATIONAL P-B Team, either a forming one or one that is accepting new
members. Any info will be greatly appreciated. Thanks...



        KEEP
              THOSE
                     BALLS
                            FLYING!!!



LONG LIVE THE PRO/AM!!!!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
From: haldin@cc.helsinki.fi
Subject: RE: Excessive ball breakage
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:51:57 GMT

In article <3090@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, billc@mpd.tandem.com (Bill Carter) writes:
> In article <88513@bcsaic.boeing.com> tazumar@bcsaic.boeing.com (Ronald Tazuma) writes:
>>
>>I recently played in semi-cold weather ~40F.  I as well as other folks
>>were using new nelson PB's in a Illustrator were experiencing the
>>breakage problems.  There were others using the Automag as well were 
>>experiencing it also.  For some strange reason the balls were breaking 
>>at an unusual rate ( shoot 2 break the next 3, clean, over and over
>>again) it was very frustrating.  I chrono'd down to 260 fps but it
>>still didn't seem to help.  The only thing that would be more forgiving
>>was to not shoot so fast ~1/second instead of 2-3/ second.  Does any
>>-one know how to get around this problem?  Does another brand of paint
>>work better in cold weather?   In my opinion, the balls would fracture
>>inside the barrel ~2-3 inches after the bolt. 

The Finnish winter ends in June and starts in August (some say), so we
play a lot in 'cold' weather -10 to 10C. When playing in below freezing
point temperatures we had the same problem. And we drew the same
conclusions (barrel / ball size). 
However, after a few seasons I'm almost certain that this is not a major
factor in that much ball breakage. Instead its probably the amount of
moisture in the air (relative humidity) that wrecks havoc with
paintball-playing. If the relative humidity is sufficiently high many
brands of PB's both swell (surprisingly fast) and get clammy on the
outside. This combination, especially the clammy, gluey outside of the
ball increases the friction and rips the ball apart inside the barrel.
Our worst experience was with Calif. Magnum Black Beaties, which after
about 10-15 minutes after opening the sealed box swelled so much that
they wouldn't go into barrel at all (even from the 'outside' using
force).
If the humidity is this high, you have to pack the balls at home and
only put as much into the feeder that you will need during the next
minutes of play.

It would be interesting to know if anybody in warm/high humidity
surroundings (Florida?) have the same problem.

Michael Haldin
HALDIN@cc.helsinki.fi
From: exucad@exu.ericsson.se (Charles Dobbins)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.paintball
Subject: Re: Smart Parts Barrel??????
Summary: The Meaning of Life.
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:23:06 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
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>   Well, I've often suspected that it sucks to be me but now I know.
>   And to think that machine shop access was the critical gating
>   factor, what blinding simplicity!

>   Revelations aside, if it's so cheap and quick to make 'em, how
>   about whipping out a few for my Illustrator?  I'll want graduated
>   inside diameters and barrel lengths, of course, so that I can
>   be prepared for any conditions.

>   Striving to be as cool as I can be,
>   Bill Carter

Well Bill, now I believe me and Bob tried to tell you this many time and you 
never seemed to be this receptive. I guess it was a Viper Landshark problem, 
but hey as long as you understand thats all that matters. (I'm really 
kidding) What's new Bill, I saw a post from you a while back and I replied 
but I didn't hear from you. I guess from your post you must still play, 
where and who do you play with? Let me know I haven't messed with it in a 
while and was curious where everybody plays. Leave me a post or call me
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Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:42:36 EST
Subject: Paintball Guns?

Does anyone know where paintball can be purchased fairly easily in the
Burlington area?  I am looking for one and am wondering..
         -Preston
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