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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:49:16 EDT
From: The 8-bit Ruler <AKH104@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: 1050 upgrade?????????
 <1992Oct4.070207.18671@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
 <uj1g.2.0@ibm3090.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de>

 The speed for the 1050 should be 288 RPM... +/- 1rpm

           for the xf551 it should be 300rpm...
           this does not mean the xf551 reads any faster because of this...
           there is timing circuitry that makes the drive look like
           a 288rpm 1050.
Andrew
________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: kspeicht@kilcom1.ucis.dal.ca (Kevin F. Speichts)
Subject: Upgrading my 810 and ALT.Atari.8bit.Binarys
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:05:54 GMT


	I have a 810 drive.

	According to the FAQ I need a 190k diskette in order to transfer 
files from my Unix terminal to my 386 PC then onto a Mydos diskette.

	Since the 810 is a 88k disk drive, I think I have to modify it.  
Does anyone know of a hardware vendor who sells and upgrade kit for it?  
Or, should I just get a Indus GT drive.  If I need to purchase a better 
drive (ie Indus GT or something like it), who sells them.

	Also the FAQ said something about Mydos has hard drive support.  Who 
sells hard drives for the Atari?

	About the discussion about the binarys news group.  How about...

	Alt.atari.8bit.binarys.

	My Boss said he could create an Alt group in around 8 seconds, it 
would then take around a week to propagate around the internet.

	I assume this has been thought of already but dismissed because some 
sites don't allow alt groups.

	
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester)
Subject: Re: 1050 upgrade?????????
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 02:08:05 GMT

In article <7306@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> graham@hri.com writes:
>Could somone please tell me what I need to get to upgrade
>my 1050 to be able to read 180K disks.
>
>Thanx in advance, Edo.


You would probably be better off with an Atari XF551 drive.
If you can find one, that is.
This is just my own opinion.  If there is a reason that the 1050 would be
preferred over the XF551, I don't know of it.  Unless you really need a
drive with a "Happy Backup" upgrade.
I've owned two 1050's and they continually break down.  My XF551 has run
without a problem since 1988.  On a related but _unrelated_ note, my Atai
810 drive has been operating since 1982 without any breakdown or trouble
at all.  It's an MPI version.  Noisy, but extremely reliable.
Just my $.02 worth.

Uncle Fester

Oh, a US Doubler is what you need, or a Happy mod.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Mailing list instead of new group??
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 26 Sep 92 11:28:11 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <19lqa8INNbbf@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aa700@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Current) writes:
> We seem to have decided we don't have the numbers for a regular binaries
> group, but is there anything preventing us from an alt.binaries type group?
>  I understand that alt. groups are easier to create; the disadvantage would
> be that many Usenet sites don't carry the alt.* hierarchy.

     I suggested this a while ago, but maybe that message didn't get
out? I think an alt.binaries group would be a really good idea. I have
no idea on how to create a group though.

Later.......

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: jjmcwill@next2 (Jeffrey J. McWilliams)
Subject: Re: POKEing text to memory
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:10:34 GMT

In article <Jim_Johnson.09n4@abcd.Houghton.MI.US>  
Jim_Johnson@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Jim Johnson) writes:
> In a message dated Mon  5 Oct 92 12:28, Jeff Mcwilliams  
<jjmcwill@mtus5.bit
> wrote:
> 
> 
> You would also have to do something with the "soft" carriage returns at  
the
> end of each screen line, versus leaving the "hard" carriage returns at  
the
> end of paragraphs alone.  Otherwise you will have a beautiful, tiny 40
> column display on the XEP80.
> 
> -- Via DLG Pro v0.995
> 
> Jim Johnson-
> *** Remember, they're only tools - Not a way of life! ***


Hmm, Yeah, makes ya wonder why someone would want to display 40 columns
on the XEP80 in the first place.  Reality check!...

--
Jeff McWilliams
Leaves Turning, falling, withering
Wind blowing, rustling, chilling
candlelight will soon be flickering
from jack-o'-lantern faces grinning
From: thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester)
Subject: Re: 1050 upgrade?????????
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 05:20:59 GMT


Marek Tomczyk sez:
                  "Just my $.03 :-)"

I'll add another $.02 to my original to make a total of $.04.
In regards to your 1050 reading DD format disks:  Yes...but that's only
one side, right?  The XF551 is good for _both_ sides.
I'm sure there are _some_ good 1050's out there like yours, but with my
owning two of them with the repeated failures means I must have had some
really, really, really bad luck or someone "up there" doesn't like me.
I purchased them new, not used also.  Oh well.  Go figure.

Your turn to up the ante.  :-)

Uncle Fester

I wonder if the guy that started all this is getting anything out of all
this "nyah, nyah, nyah" talk?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: kiernasj@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Daedraug)
Subject: ZIP compression format... 8-bit version soon.
Summary: I am more than half way finished with an Atari 8bit ver. of PkZIP
Keywords: ZIP
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 17:10:32 GMT

I have been working on an Atari 8bit version of a ZIP compressor/uncompressor
over the summer and am more than half finished with it.

Hopefully, I'll have it done by December (in between school work and projects).

Just posting this to keep everyone updated on the situation.

Steve

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Stephen Kiernan                       

kiernasj@logic.camp.clarkson.edu
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From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Atari Classics magazine National BBS listing
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 17:54:55 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

I'll take it those are Atari Classic supporting BBSes... not ST only 
ones?  I have a few 8-bit Calif.BBSes to add:

AtariBase (Atari's BBS) Runs Forem not sure the max bps 408-745-2196
Key Systems (SLCC BBS) Runs Pro on the 8-bit, 2400bps   510-352-5528

Have fun!

PhBill: Bill Kendrick               |||  1200 Cyberden BBS (+1 415 472-5527)
Moon!Cyberden!PhBill@Well.SF.CA.US / | \ 2600 North of San Francisco California
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: printer
Keywords: atari 8bit
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 18:05:45 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

billt@NeoSoft.com (Bill Tart) writes:

> How can it be fixed so that a 130xe can send out a CR/LF much like

THere are a few ways.  If you're using BASIC.. change the program from 
doing this:

10 LPRINT "Hello"
or
10 PRINT #PRINTERIOCB;"Hello"

to this:

10 PRINT #PRINTERIOCB;"Hello^M^J";
The "PRINTERIOCB" would be whatever IOCB you have opened for the printer 
(with an OPEN #PRINTERIOCB,8,0,"P:") and the "^M^J" would be the 
[CONTROL]+[M] and [CONTROL]+[J] characters.

Or, if you are using something like a word processor...have it print to 
disk, rather than to printer ("P:").  Then run this little program:

10 OPEN #1,4,0,"DX:FILENAME.EXT"
20 OPEN #2,8,0,"P:"
30 TRAP 100:DIM A$(132)
40 INPUT #1,A$
50 PRINT #2,A$;"^M^J";
60 GOTO 40
100 CLOSE #1:CLOSE #2

Again, the "^M^J" is the two control characters.  

Your final choice is to wait for someone knowledgable with the 850 to 
tell you what to do! ;)

PhBill: Bill Kendrick               |||  1200 Cyberden BBS (+1 415 472-5527)
Moon!Cyberden!PhBill@Well.SF.CA.US / | \ 2600 North of San Francisco California

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: thester@nyx.cs.du.edu (Uncle Fester)
Subject: Re: 1050 upgrade?????????
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 07:02:07 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.052310.25523@zip.eecs.umich.edu> grover@emunix.emich
edu (Grover Thomas) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.020805.17289@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> thester@nyx.cs.du
edu (Uncle Fester) writes:
>
>>This is just my own opinion.  If there is a reason that the 1050 would 
e
>>preferred over the XF551, I don't know of it.
>
>I know one reason:  Because some of that darn copy-protected junk won't
>boot on a XF551  (they spin at different speeds).  I replaced my dead 10
0
>with an XF551, and while not terrible, I wish I had another 1050. 
>-- 
> __                                                                     
  __
>(__)  Grover Thomas                   InterNet:  grover@emunix.emich.edu
 (__
>(__) "We're going to have the best educated American people in the World
 (__)
>(__)                                                         --Dan Quayl
 (__)


You know you _can_ adjust the speed (rpm) on those things.

Uncle Fester

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: kspeicht@kilcom1.ucis.dal.ca (Kevin F. Speichts)
Subject: Re: Atari 8 bit for sale
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:08:15 GMT

In article <109@myst.UUCP> jbunch@myst.UUCP (John B. Bunch) writes:
>From: jbunch@myst.UUCP (John B. Bunch)
>Subject: Atari 8 bit for sale
>Date: 29 Sep 92 23:35:52 GMT

>I have an atari 800 xl for sale...  It has a 1050 drive and has 256k of ram. 
>Any takers?

>John

>---
>John Bunch

>{backbone}!crdgw1!sixhub!myst!jbunch <- Please use this till I register my site.


	Let me know the $$$ amount, as I'm interested.  Thanks.

	p.s.  Keep in mind shipping charges to Canada.  (i.e. the thermal 
blanket to wrap it in to keep nice and warm... :)  )  

	Thanks....
From: Tim.Gearin@f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Tim Gearin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: tech manual
Date: 28 Sep 92 07:35:02 GMT


     OK.  Im interested.  You almost talk about the thing like its a text file. 
Infact it sounds like it is.  I cannot use Net-mail since it dont work.  If it
is a text file, just post it as a regular message.

 * Origin: FlightLine BBS {MSP}MN USRdual 612-544-5118 (1:282/47.0)
From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Command line DOS
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 92 08:32:12 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

If I recall, one was a teacher, the other a student. I've always assumed
the partnership dissolved when someone went off to college. I think I saw
one of them as an author of an Mac or Amiga article a while back. => moved
on & don't look back, but still in the business. I think the game you're
thinking of was Snowplow or something like that.
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Send the binaries HERE!!!!
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:57:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: miavx1.1992Sep30.135737.13241
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <3L9TRB4w165w@cyberden.uucp>, moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us writes:
> I'm actually thinking of working on a better UUd/UUe program.  It 
> probably won't be as easy to use with SpartaDOS, but it might be a bit 
> more efficient (I notice that UUe'd files never use lowercase.  I'd fix 
> that (somehow!)).  If you rumage around some other binary groups (like 
> the CrappleII group, for instance) you'll see that the files aren't 
> uuencoded, but encoded in some other, more applish way.  It actually 
> might be BETTER.  If only I knew how to program on the IBM (or Unix..yeah 

     The Apple ][ groups use BINSCII, which is actually a lot nicer than
uuen/decoding. You can run each part of a binscii file through in
whatever order you choose and it can put the binary file back together.
I've thought about writing one for the 8-bits, but they are supposedly
working on BINSCII II  that is supposed to be better. I had a long
discussion with some of the Apple ][ groups and binscii sounds a lot
better than uuencoded.

Later.......

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From: Rick_Michael_Cortese@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: Quest for Refresh
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 18:42:10 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
 muohio.edu> <92270.164344JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>
  <66704@cup.portal.com><92272.202908JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>
  <66832@cup.portal.com> <92273.141031JJMCWILL@MTUS5.BITNET>

Well, I don't really know enough about the extra opcodes for the 816, but
I just assumed there would be stuff like STZ indexed with 16 bit registers.
Since about 1/2 the stuff programs do is just move memory around,
the routines could just be added to take care of string copy etc. I'll get
off my rear & UL a source file so you can see how easy it is to extend
the Action! language. I'll pass up to the equivalent of 16 bytes of
data that can be used as pointers etc. Since there's no syntax checking on
code blocks you can stick anything in them. Basically, if you can write
a USR() routine for Basic that can access the chip the way you want, you
can do the same thing in Action! For instance, you may want a routine
that will more more then 64k, you just write it in assembler then add the
code block with whatever name you want & presto! You can either have it
generic so you can relace the built in MoveBlock() or call it BigMove().
I'll go back to my lit & see if I have anything on the new codes (unlikely).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
From: jim@neb (Jim Hood)
Subject: Don't used atari.st for binaries!!
Organization: Nebula - Public Access Unix/bbs SLC Ut, USA
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1992 14:50:32 GMT

>>I would rather not use comp.binaries.atari.st for binaries that don't run
>>on the Atari ST.  The best approach is probably to create a new newsgroup
>>comp.binaries.atari.8bit (and probably comp.sources.atari.8bit as well.)
>>Presumably the folks at atari.archive would be willing to pick up whatever
>>went across the group.  I'm not sure what they do about comp.*.atari.st
>>at the moment.
>
>I will write to Steve again in e-mail explaining that we don't believe we have
>the numbers to create a comp.binaries.atari.8bit...
>
>(I will also point out he could post to c.s.a.8/IA8 through ucbvax.berkeley)

I don't think that using comp.binaries.atari.st is a good idea.  That group
by definition is for the ST.  The ST people will get pissed that there is
8-bit stuff in there (I would if I had an ST) and 8-bit people that miss
this discussion will not know to go there.  We should either have a 
binary group with the name atari.8-bit or not, but using someone else's
groups is just not a good idea.

I'm the one that origionally asked about starting an 8-bit binaries group,
and if it ends up in the ST binaries area, I doubt I will use it.

-jim
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From: pattons@CS.ColoState.EDU (samuel patton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: P:R: Connection Help
Date: 30 Sep 92 05:46:50 GMT


I recently pruchased a P:R: Connection second hand and have been having 
problems hooking it up...  Afew questions for anyone out there that can
provide me with some help...

1) Do you have to write an R: handler for each individual modem?  I thought
the connection had the Handler built into it.  I am trying to connect a
Codex 5212R modem which is ancient and I do not think that it is Hayes 
compatible.  Does anyone know if this can be done?  This modem is 1200baud
and has some major switches and such inside.  "Inherited" it from my uncle.

2) Concerning cables... Is it best to build your own or do standard IBM cables
for connecting RS232 devices work.  I bought a Male 25 pin to Male 9 pin to
hook up this beast but I am not sure that the pins are correct for the P:R:.

I guess I am asking ... Is the P:R: connection pinout config. match that of 
standard cables?

3) Are these 15 pin to centronics printer pinned cables still commercially
available or are they also a build only type item ( I haven't had a chance
to look into availability of these yet. )

4) What do you use the RS232.SYS file on the P:R: Connection disk for if the
hardware already has a built in driver??

Also, I may be needing a cheap 1200 or 2400 baud modem that IS Hayes compaati-
ble, so anyone with one.... Contact me I guess.

Thanks for any help that you can provide....

Sam Patton

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From: indy@IMMACC.PREPNET.COM (Dave Tartaglia)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Silicon Dreams
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:30:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: 'Immaculata College, PA '


About a year ago, I bought the Atari 8bit version of Silicon Dreams, by
Firebird software. I played the first of the triad until I couldn't see
straight anymore. I finally gave up when I could not figure out how to
get by the "waldroid" near "Jacob's Ladder."  

I recently gave it another shot, but I'm still stymied. Can anyone give me
a hint? Also, where are the "dark glasses" for welding?  
Email or post ...Thanks

Dave Tartaglia    indy@immacc.prepnet.com
From: moon!cyberden!phbill@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.8bit
Subject: Re: WANTED: 8-bit BBS numbers.
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 17:57:19 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

chase@electron.rutgers.edu (Kevin Chase) writes:

> Does anyone have a list of BBS's that still support the old
> Atari 8-bits.  I seem to remember a list being posted a long time
> ago, but I didn't save it.
> 

Hookey smokes, bullwinkle!  The AC BBS list for the entire country (if 
not more, I didn't check it out) was just posted!
D'oh! ;)

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