From: ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: The liar has nothing else to say
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:32:40 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) writes:

><BtLx9M.Mqw@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
>ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis )

>>>They used Istanbul Patriarch 
>>>Grigorios in 1822 to instigate the Morea rebellion that resulted in 
>>>the massacres of the Muslim people. Again, the Orthodox Patriarch 
>>>Constantine V invited the Russian Czar Nicholas II to invade the 
>>>Ottoman Empire 'in the name of Jesus,' and save his flock from Ottoman 
>>>rule. 

>> Your logic(?) says that Greeks should just ask the Turks:
>> Greeks: Excuse me guys, could you please let me leave free?
>> Turks: Sorry guys, but you are free.  Ottomans are protecting you.

>'Palikaryas' and 'tamtams' just sit there. Even kicking doesn't 
>always help. The basic document regulating Turkish-Greek relations 
>is the Peace Treaty of Lausanne (1923), which is still in force. In
>the 'balance among equals' provided by this international treaty, 
>three areas are most noteworthy: Western Thrace, the Aegean Sea and 
>Cyprus.

 It is very interesting to see how the Master Untrue Totally Lying Unit(s)
 is(are) changing subject. When he(they) sees(see) that he(they) does (do) not 
 have other arguments to support his(their) position(s), he(they) simply
 change subject.

 Note here, that the initial discussion was about wolf's (oops, Turkey)
 saliva (oops, claims) against the militirazation of some Greek islands!!!

 I'm repeating the question for the Master Untrue Totally Lying Unit(s):
 What is the Turkish military next to the Greek islands?
 It seems, that the Master Untrue Totally Lying Unit(s) has(have) swallowed
 his(their) tongue!!

>Western Thrace is a piece of land in Greece between the Evros
>(or Meric) River in the west and the Nastos (or Karasu) River
>in the east. The Muslim Turkish minority, which totaled 129,120
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>in 1923 and owned 84 percent of the land, was given every 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
      Can please someone verify these numbers?

>kind of minority rights to maintain its national culture by the
>Lausanne Treaty.

 You are forgeting that simillar rights were given to the Greek minority
 in Turkey.  Now, pathetic liar, answer the following questions:

 (i): How many Greeks were living in Turkey in 1923?
 (ii): How many Greeks live in Turkey now?
 (iii): How many Greeks were allowed to sell their properties when
	they left Turkey?
 (iv): How many Turks have studied at Greek universities with money
       paid from the Greek state?
 (v): How many Greeks have studied at Turkish universities with money
      paid from the Turkish state?
 (iv): How many Greeks have taken loans for their bussinesses in Turkey?
 (iv): How many Turks have taken loans for their bussinesses in Greece?

 So, Master Untrue Totally Lying Unit(s), answer the above questions, or
 close your mouth.  We don't need your saliva in this newsgroup.

>The Republic of Cyprus cannot be looked upon as a 
>'Greek state' ignoring virtually all Turkish rights
>in the Constitutions.

 Typical of the Master Untrue Totally Lying Unit(s). He changes the subject
 again, to avoid humiliation.

>Hasan B-) MUTLU (Master Untrue Totally Lying Unit(s))


-- 
---> Panos Tamamidis
     University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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