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In rec.motorcycles, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:

> jld@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Deeney) writes:
> >  2.  Having successfully passed the first screen, have the candidate
> >    complete the following survey.  
> ...
> >      Marital Status:   <married with 8 children is desirable :->
> 
> Jeff, who do you think you are, Woody Allen?

No, I suppose not.  Having direct responsiblity for my off-spring rules me
out.  Speaking of which, I'd like to announce the arrival of the final
teenie Deeney (DoD 0498.3).  A spec sheet is attached.  He was kind of a
surprise, but a pleasant one at that.  Remember, be careful in there :-) 

--------------

                            1992 Colton James

Date of manufacture............September 25, 1992  7:55am

Engine type....................Biological, air cooled.  

Displacement...................Bigger than mom would have liked

Bore...........................Approx 4.4 inches

Carburetion....................Tongue, throat, and dual nostrils

Fuel capacity..................To be determined (possibly endless)

Gearing........................Single speed, optional upgrades available 

Spark arrester.................none

EPA-legal......................doubtful

Running weight w/no fuel.......8 pounds, 8.5 ounces

Wheelbase......................20.75 inches 

Rake/trail.....................Definitely

Ground clearance...............Variable from 0 to 5 ft, depending on 
                                  who's holding him.

Seat Height....................Yes

Tire size and type: 
    Front......................10 fingers
    Rear.......................10 toes

Suspension.....................Dangling monoshock with remote reservoir 

Country of origin..............United States 

Suggested retail price.........If you have to ask, you can't afford one. 

Distributor/manufacturer.......Jeff & Laura Deeney

------------------

-Jeff Deeney-  KotD #0000  DoD#0498    NCTR    '88 XR600-Shamu   
jld@hpfcpe.fc.hp.com       AMA#540813  COHVCO  '81 CB750F-Llamaha 
We don't stop riding because we get old, we get old because we stop riding.
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:37:55 -0400 
From: Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: FZ600 and Motul

Howdy,

Two questions.

First, has anybody got experience with Motul 4 stroke 15W50 Synthetic?
I think the motul # was 2100...

Secondly, I may be getting an FZ600.  It's got something like 20,000
miles, burns a little oil, and needs some work (front disc(s) are
warped, clutch cable and clutch need to be replaced, choke cable needs
to be replaced, and it only has the upper, not the side panels or the
lowers).  How much is such a bike worth?  I'm working at a shop, and
would need to spend ~$1200 to get the bike at mint appearence and to
make it run better than stock (ie, engine rebuild with different cams,
pistons, porting, etc plus some fairing pieces).

I've ridden the bike the way it is now, and the power seems to be
pretty tame below about 6000-7000 rpm, then coming on satifactorily.
I found the bike comfortable, with the pegs and bars at reasonable
places, though I'm worried that the seat may suck on longer trips.

Anyone got experience with this bike they'd like to share?

Thanks,

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
| ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |
From: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: full face DoD?
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:06:45 GMT
Reply-To: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Organization: QPSX Communications
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stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:
: 
: 	OK.  Do _all_ DoDers wear full-face helmets?
: 	All the ones I've seen do.
Yup
--
"There's something stirring in my loins and it isn't the spirit of Jesus"
                - Helen Razor, JJJ announcer, 1992.

Email: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Snail: QPSX Communications, Private Bag 24, West Perth 6005, Australia. 
Numbers:(ph) +61 9 324 1641, (fx) +61 9 321 2984 (dod) 0604
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: To: J. Levine - bounced mail
Date: 6 Oct 1992 16:49:41 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 1055@pico.qpsx.oz.au, conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au (Conrad Drake) writes:
>[ : >
>[ : >To over simplify, lean the bike - not yourself.  And use your
>[ : >knees/thighs to do it.  (This all applies to slow (<25mph) stuff).
>[ : 
>[ : This is a joke, right?
>[ : 
>[     No. (maybe the .sig is/was inappropriate) It seems that the dreaded
>[ icecream cone theorists are correct at low speed at least.  I have to
>[ admit that all the bikes that I have been playing with of late are
>[ mid-weight 500s (cb/4, sr) but they've both responded well to "steer
>[ with your knees" at low speeds.

1. Ice cream cone theorys have nothing to do with steering.  Camber
thrust describes how a semi-rigid cylindrical body in a cone shape will
not roll straight, but will induce a turn.  Motorcycle wheels only
become cones after they are leaned over.  Steering is the process of
leaning the bike.

2. Pushing your knees/thighs against the gas tank does nothing to steer
the bike.  To the extent that you shift your body weight or weight one
peg more than the other, the weight shift will induce a lean, which
will induce a turn.  To the extent that you unconsciously provide
corresponding input to the handlebars along with twisting/pushing your
lower body, that is called countersteering and it will incuce a lean,
which will induce a turn.

3. For maximum effect (rapid swerve), you are correct that you should
"lean the bike - not yourself."  The most effective, efficient, and
controllable method to accomplish this is through a process called
countersteering, ie, focus your input on the handlebars.  Squeeze
*both* knees against the tank, for better control of your seating
position.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: Leaning into it
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:59:13 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <8elA1mm00VpQA1oP1S@andrew.cmu.edu>, Mark Joseph Andy <ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
|> Howdy,
|> 
|> essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:
|> > In article <X4TFRB1w165w@vector0.UUCP>, jon%vector0.UUCP@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US (Dazed N. Confused) writes:
|> > [jon is afraid of falling in turns because he fell 1.5 years ago]
|> > |>      Someone reason with me, please.
|> > 
|> Yeah, Axel was scared for about 1.9 seconds, until some guy in a vette
|> passed him and they raced around on the freeway at like 120 mph.  Of
|> course Axel's brakes didn't work hardly at all, but at least he didn't
|> have to lean TOO much...

hey! the brakes worked ok for a little while if you pumped 'em up a lot...
besides, i wasn't planning on braking.  and there was very little traffic.

|> Anyway, to the guy who's afraid to lean the bike, I've got a few
|> suggestions.  1st, buy yourself some awesome protective gear.  Leather
|> will make you more comfortable with the thought of falling and
|> sliding.  Second, put on that awesome protective gear and then go to a

oops, forgot to mention that.  i get very paranoid riding without lots of
protective gear.  i'm a lot more comfortable leaning hard if i'm pretty sure
i'll be ok in a crash.

|> Mark
|> 
|> | Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		AMA #700560	|
|> | ma1w+@cmu.edu			KotR			DoD #813	|
|> | Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
|> | '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '87 KDX200 (the humbler)	|
|> | I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, SS lines, etc... |

axel
From: djm@morpheus.wustl.edu (David Maconochie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD is a bad influence
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:40:11 GMT
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: morpheus.wustl.edu

daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) writes:

>You are all a bad influence on me , could you please step up the 
>number of postings on full leather riding apparel to make ammends for the
>corruption of my soul.

How about some postings supporting the compulsory wearing of helmets?


-- 
--

David Maconochie
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: shoun@netcom.com (Lissa Shoun)
Subject: Re: First Blue haired lady of the day.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 23:20:57 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa

jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
> ...
> I had no choice. I had to unleash the full power of the stebels.
> Which sent said "lovely hair color" careening back into "her" lane.
> ...
> Why god chose me, I really don't know.

Are you wondering why god bestowed upon you a pair of enormous
hooters? You're just lucky, I guess.

-- 
Lissa
shoun@netcom.com     (408) 926-0812
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Subject: Re: Double  minus 5
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:59:26 GMT

In article <25621@oasys.dt.navy.mil> cervi@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Mark Cervi) writes:
>Watch out in West Virginia.  They really are serious about the suggested
>speeds.  If it says 35, you might be in the ditch if you try for 40.

Just ask Jonathan "HoJo" Polito about the suggested speed
markings in North Carolina ;-)

Steve



-- 
 Steve Andersen  DoD #0239                               andersen@me.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 1992 Ducati 907 I.E.                                      1987 Yamaha SRX250
 "Life is simply a consequence of the complexities of carbon chemistry..."
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: fuel/engine efficiency
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:05:55 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

bob pasker (bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us) wrote:
: > We don't have hydrogen powered motorcycles because they aren't currently
: > practical as replacements for gasoline engined equivilents.
: 
: do you know this for a fact?  or is it just what you've been told?

Do *you* know for a fact that the oil companies have bought up some marvelous
patented technology to keep it off the market.  Can you give me a patent number
to check?  Patents, after all are public documents.  Does the wonderous
invention you know about actually *work*?  There are lots of patents for
things that don't really live up to their inventors' dreams.

--

*******************************************************************************
* Bill Ranck     DoD #496  ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu                            *
*******************************************************************************
From: 734keon@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Manual sources
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:41:39 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University



Can someone please recommend a source for outdated motorcycle owners manuals
(specifically for a 1975 Suzuki 550GT), if such a place exists?

Thanks--

D. Keon
734keon@gw.wmich.edu


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: How far do you commute/Cereal for Breakfast
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 1992 10:53:17 GMT

:P.S. Does anyone eat Cereal for Breakfast besides me??

Well folks, for breakfast I usually have muesli,
and usually that muesli is Alpen.  That's A-L-P-E-N folks, Alpen!

(Really crap/good ad from ITV)  Lots of smiling cowboys 'n' girls with a wild 
west scene, a guitar and a packet of muesli.   Great!  (I'm out of my skull!)

After a bowl of muesli, (in the large bowl, I use the FILO queueing system)
I find that I don't get so much trouble from my cable operated crutch.  It must
be the fibre causing my plates to open.  A good commute afterwards is highly 
recommended, distance is relatively unimportant but to the nearest .01 of a 
mile it's well worth recording it for posteriority's sake.


Nick (The Not so Funny Today Biker)    MAG 73516    DoD 1069    Concise Oxford


M'Lud.

Sidecar>  Another wonderful ad from the egg people used the slogan: "go to work
          on an egg".  Perhaps they meant the Egli Kawasaki Turbo.  That would
          certainly wake one's self up in the morning.  180MPH down the fast 
          lane of the motorway with the NO2 button still to press.....
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Stealing bikes
Date: 28 Sep 1992 16:43:05 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 92Sep27133615@starbird.WPI.EDU, rtaraz@starbird.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
>
>How do bike thieves steal bikes?

Regularly.

> Do they actually start it up and
>drive it or do they roll it up a truck and take it away.

Yes.

>How easy is to break the stearing lock?

Too.

>And finally, is locking a bike to something helpfull? (using one of
>those locks that are make of individual strands rather that a chain)

Everything helps, but it won't stop a slime that wants your bike.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: wrs@wslack.UUCP (Bill Slack)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re:  Almost got killed - want tougher helmet law!
Date: 3 Oct 92 13:59:28 GMT
Organization: W. R. Slack


Erik v B. sez:
>Actually, the next iteration likely to come from the moronic
>bleeding-heart liberals is:
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

As has been previously noted in this newsgroup, liberals have no exclusivity
on these idiotic regulations. Most of the recent helmet laws have come from
conservative politicians. Stupidity in government knows no party boundaries.

>
>"Helmets, gloves, steel-toed boots, and a diapers will be donned by
>all people prior to getting out of bed."
>
>-- 
>Erik van Bronkhorst KC6UUT DoD#4342585443 AMA#[classified]
>"Truth is false and logic lost, now the fourth dimension is crossed..."

Bill

__
wrs@gozer.mv.com (Bill Slack)
But her tears were shed in vain and her every word was lost
In the rumble of his engine and the smoke from his exhaust! Oo..o&o
From: ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan - Mick)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: We are sick and tired!!
Date: 2 Oct 1992 19:09:01 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: maxine.wpi.edu

In a previous article, jjb@dtc.hp.com (Jim Brewer) said:
:- ravi@maxine.wpi.edu (Ravi Narayan ) writes:
:- >	pasker buys those no-shift-key keyboards from me! 
:-                                                      ^
:-                                    So where does this character come from?
:- 
:- > i can safely claim the title of keeper of the lowercase! ;)
:-                                                             ^
:-                                                      And this one?

	hey! i sold em all to pasker! ;)

:-   (I'm just trying to emphasize the original topic of this thread)

	this one is OHT (over head transmission).

	happy riding to you,

	- ravi


-- 
'''---```---^^^^^^-----#-----~~~~~----'''------~~~~-----````~~~---------$$-----
sig (n): a piece of mail with a fool at one : Ravi Narayan - ravi@cs.wpi.edu
          end and flames at the other. (C).  :       Suzuki GS500E
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What would you buy for $2000?
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:01:44 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Sep28.160744.16425@wam.umd.edu> delilah@next16pg2.wam.umd.edu (Romeo DeVerona) writes:
|In article <26280@castle.ed.ac.uk> cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)  
|writes:

|> For any given parameter of motorcycle performance, a Harley achieves
|> that performance by means of more motorcycle than any other
|> manufacturer. Size counts, as they say.

|man, it's really starting to bug me to see people putting joke postings  
|like this just to start flame wars. come on, if you can't start a war over  
|something you can actually convince people that you believe, don't bother  
|trying!

I find it very difficult to understand this retort, since

	1. What I said about Harleys is in general uncontroversial and 
	accepted.

	2. I believe it.

	3. I can't imagine why anyone should suppose I don't believe it.

-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Fatal horse accident
Date: 28 Sep 1992 16:38:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
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NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 9901018@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM, ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) writes:
>
> (d) You don't have to feed a motorcycle even when not riding it
> (e) Motorcycles don't attract flies
> (f) Motorcycles won't wander away thru open gates

OTOH, 
(a) Mothers actually *enjoy* it when you show their kids your horsey
(b) When you're tired/drunk, the horse knows the way home
(c) The horse won't leave you stranded if you forget a feeding

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Almost got killed - want tougher helmet law!
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:45:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.210230.418@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>fester@island (Mike Fester) writes:
>>Roar.Larsen@termo.unit.no (Roar Larsen) writes:
>
>>>I am obviously not capable of properly taking care of myself, so I have
>>>immediately started lobbying for an extension of our current helmet
>>>law, namely that "Helmets must be worn by all persons venturing
>>>closer than 10 feet to a motorcycle". Please support my efforts.
>>
>>This type of nonsense cannot go unchallenged. It is YOUR responsibilty to 
>>put in softer handlebars, not the government's job to make you wear your 
>>helmet! And next time, don't buy a bike with such a tight sprocket! 
>
>Wrong!  It's the manufacturers responsibility to put softer handlebars
>on the bike.  Or at least a warning label that says:

>              "Warning: Do not bang head here"

>This sounds like a perfect product liability case worth millions!!  

*Sigh* Simple-minded solutions for simple minded people. Don't you see that the
label can become MORE dangerous?! What if, through extensive wear, the words
"Do not" were no longer legible? Clearly, such garage mechanics would start
deliberately banging their heads right there! That would CLEARLY necessitate
wearing a helmet in order to avoid injury while FOLLOWING THE RULES (a noble
goal, indeed).

Boy, next time think these things through!

Mike
-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do. 
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:33707 ba.motorcycles:387
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From: rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers)
Subject: Re: DoD weenies
Organization: Memes-R-Us
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:00:54 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:

>Y'know, sometimes people like you really tick me off.  I am the DoD,
>as are most of the people here.  We are under NO obligation to tell you
>*anything*, let alone information for which we have made it very clear 
>is not to be asked about here.

This kind of an attitude can cut both ways.

-- richard

-- 
=====
-- richard childers		rchilder@us.oracle.com		1 415 506 2411
         oracle data center  --  unix systems & network administration
                    Klein flask for rent. Inquire within.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Stealing bikes
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:50:44 GMT

In article <RTARAZ.92Sep27133615@starbird.WPI.EDU> rtaraz@starbird.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes:
|
|How do bike thieves steal bikes? Do they actually start it up and
|drive it or do they roll it up a truck and take it away.
|How easy is to break the stearing lock?

I once had a ratbike that decided it would ignore the key, and I tried
like the dikens to break the fork lock and hotwire the bike, with no
luck whatsoever.  I am not a small guy, and I could not for the life
of me break that fork lock.  And the wiring harness was buried well
inside the bike.  I would think that a thief would be much more
likely just to throw the bike into the back of a truck and be off.
(I and one other fairly large guy once did exactly that with a
KZ550.  I was amazed at how easily it went up there.)

|And finally, is locking a bike to something helpfull? (using one of
|those locks that are make of individual strands rather that a chain)

Well, locking the bike *to* something would prevent the "throw it in
the truck" theives.  Carrying around enough tools to zap through a
hefty Krypto-cable would be dubious at best.

With a little forsight, it is quite possible to discourage a determined
thief.

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Feeling poorly)           |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Being bored)         |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
"It's like deja-vu, all over again."        |