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From: nazir@sw.stratus.com (Meer Nazir)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Asian models, a friendly disagreement and some extra :-)'s
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:49:36 GMT
Reply-To: nazir@jets.sw.stratus.com
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc.

In article <14OCT199208565339@vxcrna.cern.ch>, mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP) writes:
> 
> 	You are right for the first few years of Islam. Obviously extraordinary
> 	character of Mohammad(SAW) produced a lot of attraction to it. But
> 	then,..Let us see, why not take example of India. Well what happened
> 	.. I think it was Mohammad bin Qasim who first wanted to kiss
> 	indians and then the arabs kept kissing Multan for few hubdred
> 	years until they were defeated by their "RAQEEB-e-RUSIAH" from
> 	afghnistan (Also muslims)?.

Mirza Sahib do not try to change history. If you do not know anything about
it... Let me remind you that in 780 A.D.(year might be a little wrong), when
Mohammad Bin Qasim attacked India. INDIA was not a country as it is today it
was ruled by many RAJAS. I know Arun and other Indian net readers will 
disagree with my point which I am writing. 

Raja Dahir of Sindh was known about his SEA PIRATE activities in What we called
today Arabian Sea. Muslim traders and before them Hindu traders were using 
this sea route before even Prophet MOHAMMED(SAW) started preaching Islam. 
Anyway so Raja Dahir was known about his dacoits activities. Compare this with
hijacking of US plane today and you will see what US will do. Remember by that
time Muslims were a Super Power and you do not do such dumb things. 
I will not justify Hajaj Bin Yousuf character but remember he was the Governor
of IRAQ. In order to send a mission he has to Finance the mission. It may be
looting in your opinion but in todays context Germany after second world war
paid war crimes attrocities in form of Money. Same case with IRAQ today
after Gulf War.
 
> 	atleast two or three times before arabs tried through Iran to attack 
> 	india but were defeated by the Blochees. It is also very interesting
> 	that during the attack to india Hajaj bin yousef died and 
> 	Mohammad bin Qasim was taken back rolled in a "suf" and 
> 	smoked as punishment since the new Governer hated his uncle.

From since when you have started blaming the whole nation for ones political
actions. There is always Black sheeps in any society. Anyway I have seen
this problem with most of your postings. Seems to be a conceptual problem.
I know Jawad will agree with me here.

> 	Ok let us come back to love affairs. Then I think it was
> 	Mohamood Ghaznavi who came in and kissed indian once and had so
> 	much fun that had to repeat it 16 more times. Well from then it was

I donot have much time to spend on this posting. But I will certainly like
to give you a good answer for this. May be next time.

> 
> 	   Jinab HAJI Molah Bakhs .. entering to the party of Quid-e-Awam, 
> 	   Mojahid-i-Islam, Fakhr-e-Pakistan.....
> 	   along with his 5000 followers.....

So what is wrong in joining one political party.

> 
> 	We all know our culture and history a bit dont we?

Yes we do. But I dont think so you...

MEER NAZIR
From: 894waqas@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Jesus: MightyProphet NotSonOfGod
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:45:44 EST
Reply-To: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Oct7.154024.23208@tamsun.tamu.edu>, gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:
> In article <1992Oct7.100009.5666@gw.wmich.edu> x91waqas@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>>ASalam-O-Alaikum,
>>
>>		I would like to inform you about a latest research going on in
>>the field of biology called CLONNING.  What is Clonning?  Well, it a process by
>>which a baby is born without any male intervention.  How?  What they do is:
>>
>>	1.	Take OVA out of FEMALE body.
>>	2.	Take CELL out of FEMALE body.
>>	3.	Take the NUCLEIUS out of the CELL.
>>	4.	TURN ON all the GENES and place it on the OVA.
>>	5.	It starts dividing into cells.
>>	6.	Ultimately develops into a FETUS.
>>
>>	This research is done by Americans (Christians) and not Muslims.  Now
>>the Christian beleive that respected Jesus (peace be on him) is son of God 
>>because he (pboh) did not had any human father and God must be his father.  The
> 
> I can already see future Newspapers screaming 
> "Evidence of clonning found in Jesuit era. Hallaloueyaaa...". 
> 
> ;-) 
> 
> regards,
> --   
> E-mail - gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu       |   /   All Std. Disclaimers apply.

Dear Brother Gagrawal,

	It is not clear what you want to say.  If you have any doubt about this
science (CLONNING), please, check it at you campus library, and if I
misinformed you, please, correct me, even though I have thoroughly studied this
science in my college courses.  It is not my intention to mislead/misinform
you.

Your's Brother,


Akhtar Waqas.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Subject: Re: Asian models, a friendly disagreement and some extra :-)'s
Reply-To: jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:20:05 GMT

In article <Bw7yy3.GKn@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj
Bhatnagar) writes:
> In article <1992Oct15.102805.28001@panix.com> imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar)
writes:
> >
> >Bullshit!  If Islam was being spread, especially in India, at the 
> >point of a sword how come the Hindus remained a MAJORITY or for that
> >matter they even stayed ALIVE or survived as a race.  Must have
> >9 lives or something.
> >
> 
> On reading history one sees that throughout their stay in India
> the Invaders were constantly engaged in war with the Indians, trying
> to consolidate their political rule. Even Shahjahan, considered
> one of the less involved in expansion of the kingdom, was CONSTANTLY
> engaged in battles either at this or that front of his kingdom. So,
> there was resistance to the invaders in sufficient amount till the
> fading of the supremacy of the Turco/Persian/etc. invaders in 18th/19th
> century. 
> 
> There NEVER was a peaceful era during the rules of any of these invaders.



Don't lose track of the correct perspective.
Sure those weren't peaceful times but the same is true for Indian
kings too. There were frequent wars between Indian kings too, right ?

"Muslim" kings didn't have a monopoly on wars.


> 
> SO, you can see that the invaders were never able to subdue the resistance
> despite almost 1000 years in India. that is the reason Islam remained
> confined to small pockets and the overwhelming resistance by the Hindus
> kept the Hinduism alive.



Well I guess every one has his/her own view of history which by itself is
not wrong. The problem arises when we insist on closing our minds to butter
our perspectives.




> 
> Only those who were weak, bowed to the pressures of the invaders and
                      ^^^^  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> converted, and the rest continued to resist the forced conversions. 





Lot of statements being made without evidence.




> 
> >Imran Anwar
> 
> ---raj
> 
> 


--Javed.
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From: baligh@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu (Muhammad Baligh-ur-Rehman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.religion.islam
Subject: Annual function of Temple MSA.
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:25:06 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.pakistan
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



     


                   M  S  A
                      of
              TEMPLE UNIVERSITY

  is having its annual function on Oct 15.

          Annual elections & Dinner


for more info. contact Faisal Ch. Ph# 215-765-6204
                    or Omar Saeed V5163U@TEMPLE.VM.EDU


P.S. I am posting it for a friend please do not respond to this account.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: WhyIsSwineProhibited? Answer.
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 23:49:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.165044.5739@gw.wmich.edu> x91waqas@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>	THE PROHIBITION OF SWINE IN ISLAM, JUDAISM, AND  CHRISTIANITY
>
>through its system, is absorved, and comes back as part of its flesh.  If that
>same pig is killed three hours after it has had its meal of trash and other
>impurites, and a dish of pork , or whatever other type, is prepared, then you
>would actually have a dish of trash.  There might also be a number of germs,
>bacteria, and parasites which infest the pig and live in its flesh.
>
>	Thus, it may be concluded without doubt that the swine or pig is
>definitely an impious and unsanitary animal.  It is important to establish this

This reasoning is not only too simplistic but also fallacious. 

1) Times have changed and almost all pork eaten in western countries 
are raised on farms that are fed nothing but the best stuff (far more 
hygenic than the chemical contaminated grasses that Asian cows/goats eat).
If I read your definition of trash right, then the modern swines have never 
tasted trash. 

2) Biologically speaking, the trash that the pigs eat would remain only
in the intestines. Infact the food that all other animals consumes also 
turns into trash by the time it half way down the intestines.  The intestines
are responsible for absorbing only the useful nutrients (even trash can have 
some nutritional value). The actual non-digestible stuff is simply passed 
down. Thus there is no possibility of traces of trash (shit) being found 
in swines blood or in its non-intestinal meat. 

[I do not eat swine]

regards,
--   
   ______ ______ ______ ______ __  |\/\/\/|
    ____/  __  /  __  /  __  /  /  |  \  /|   LIFE'S COMPLEX - IT HAS 
   / __   /   /  /   /  /   /  /   | (o)(o)   REAL & IMAGINARY PARTS  
  /   /  /   /   ___/  __  /  /    C      _) 
_____/ _____/ __/   __/ __/ ______/ | \___|  
E-mail - gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu       |   /   All Std. Disclaimers apply.
From: baigr@reis56.alleg.edu (Raza Baig)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: raza ali baig says hi.
Date: 17 Oct 92 01:34:49 GMT
Organization: Allegheny College


hello. this is raza ali baig from k.g.s. now at allegheny saying hello to  
all his friends.
From: zabdi@bucknell.edu (Zakir Abdi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Need info about Omer Sherif Show in N.J.
Keywords: Hydrocarbons
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:42:06 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
NNTP-Posting-Host: vega.cs.bucknell.edu


	Hi Guys..

	Can anyone post some info about that show in N.J. this week.

	Thanks in advance

	Zakir Abdi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: WhyIsSwineProhibited? Answer.
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 19:59:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.133157.5749@gw.wmich.edu> x91waqas@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.234954.23589@tamsun.tamu.edu>, gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:

AW:
>>>	THE PROHIBITION OF SWINE IN ISLAM, JUDAISM, AND  CHRISTIANITY
>>>
>>>	Thus, it may be concluded without doubt that the swine or pig is
>>>definitely an impious and unsanitary animal.  
                 ^^^^^^^
----------
GA:
>> 1) Times have changed and almost all pork eaten in western countries 
>> are raised on farms that are fed nothing but the best stuff (far more 
>> hygenic than the chemical contaminated grasses that Asian cows/goats eat).
>> If I read your definition of trash right, then the modern swines have never 
>> tasted trash. 
>
---------
AW:
>	You are right when you talk about the pigs fed and grown at different
>forms (not wild pigs) for business purposes in the Western Countries.  But 
>Western countries  does not make the whole world. What I stated was in general 
>and not for Western countries (pigs grown in forms) only.           ^^^^^^^^^
>
>Akhtar Waqas.
>
---------
GA:
Yes, western countries do not make the whole world.   But would you agree 
that eating pigs in western countries is not an impious thing to do since
they are not contaminated ? Since you say that your statement was `in general',
does this `general' cover all the countries ?     

As for the 3rd world countries, I think labelling a pig as `impious' is 
appropriate since the common man cannot understand the word `unsanitary'
but he understands `impious' (I hope this reverses some day). 

regards,
--   
   ______ ______ ______ ______ __  |\/\/\/|
    ____/  __  /  __  /  __  /  /  |  \  /|   LIFE'S COMPLEX - IT HAS 
   / __   /   /  /   /  /   /  /   | (o)(o)   REAL & IMAGINARY PARTS  
  /   /  /   /   ___/  __  /  /    C      _) 
_____/ _____/ __/   __/ __/ ______/ | \___|  
E-mail - gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu       |   /   All Std. Disclaimers apply.
From: rk@nms.hls.com (S Ramakrishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: SILAT MAN IS BACK!
Date: 9 Oct 92 04:09:48 GMT
Organization: Hughes LAN Systems Inc., Mountain View, Ca
Originator: ramakris@csgrad.cs.vt.edu

In <1992Oct7.120155.655@hls.com> silatman@hls.com (Khalid H Khan) writes:

   >This is to inform all my friends that by the Grace of Allah
   >subhana talla' I am doing just fine, and I have moved to a new
   >company. 

In your unending quest for Long Legged Blondes, I bet ? We have too 
many long legged blondes in Hughes, doncha think ?

   >All my friends are urged to send me email so that

All Long Legged Blondes are urged too.

   >New article on "Soul is House of Knowledge" is coming up.

No wonder you've been lately missing from alt.personals. You're busy
with this soul stuff. When's your next personals ad coming up ?

---
S Ramakrishnan, Hughes LAN Systems Inc., Mountain View, Ca
From: silatman@hls.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: The effect of set of belief
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:05:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: hls.1992Oct12.120551.687



       While Naveed Sherwani's article on adopting a consistent
and just set of moral philosophy sits correct, we must not
adopt any set of rules that are outside Shariah. Thus, there
are somethings that are CLEARLY FORBIDDEN in the Quran and
the Sunnah, and some things that are makruh, and yet others
on which there is no opinion, the best in which is to abstain
or try to recognize the spirit of that thing, whether it is
from Shyatan and is to be shunned, etc.

       The so-called modern science, mathematics, development,
etc. is building built on just a few logics only. This is not
to put down the efforts of scientists and developers who
have worked to improve the human condition and provided many
facilities, but those scientists and developers are not
above Islam. If something was prohibited over a thousand years
ago by Allah swt, you cannot deny that prohibition and 
"update Islam", even if by using "modern logic" denying the prohibition
starts to make sense, because this life is actually a test
provided by Allah swt to see who will be obedient and who
will not. You cannot disregard the test, and marry your
Islam to the world!

       All of this illusion before us will be blown 
away when the Angel recites on Judgment Day, and then
all that will remain will be "Who was obedient to
the commands of Allah swt and who was not??"

       When you approach Islam with a clean heart
you will see many wisdoms. Modern education is based
on a foundation which denies the Test presented by
Allah swt, makes everything ongoing and Uncertain,
and so those who are under the influence of this
"modern" education become Uncertain themselves,
and deep inside they starts denying, also.

                    was salam,
                                Khalid Habib Khan


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: Belal Khalid <belal@caen.engin.umich.edu>
Subject: job.doc
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 23:35:31 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan
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X-Xxdate: Sun, 11 Oct 92 04:46:33 GMT

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ENGINEERS

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engaged in research and development in the fields of power electronics
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There are a few jobs available for persons holding bachelors and master
degrees in computer sciences and computer engineering. The jobs involve
designing of control software, microcontroller based systems, assembly
language and C language software, database applications and networking
etc.

Interested candidates are encouraged to send there resumes to the
following address by mail or by fax.

Hipo Electronics pvt ltd
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Off Multan Rd Lahore.

Tel:	92-42-5221750
	92-42-5220748
	92-42-5220382
Fax:	92-42-5220060
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: bholu@nyx.cs.du.edu (  Bholu)
Subject: Re: spelling problems..... ;-)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 22:36:47 GMT

>Hey motee, how'bout coming over to see us amreekaanoz?.... 

"Humor" or yet another display of exquisite taste from the self-proclaimed
amreeki kid?

--
kavva chala hans ki chaal...

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: alam@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (ALAM AFSHAN)
Subject: Re: spelling problems..... ;-)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:42:46 GMT

anajam@athena.mit.edu (ADIL NAJAM) writes:

>If an S and an I and an O and a U
>With an X at the end spell Su;
>And an E and a Y and an E spell I,
>Pray what is a speller to do?
>Then, if also an S and an I and a G
>And an HED spell side,
>There's nothing much left for a speller to do
>But to go commit siouxeyesighed.
>                -- Charles Follen Adams, "An Orthographic Lament"
hey those r not spelling problems those r pronunciation nightmares ;)

>with special regards to SCP's resident spelling scholar, Afshaan Alam ;-)
ack'd ;)

>ADIL [I hope when I am dead
>      then it shall be said
>      yes, his sins were scarlet
>      but his posts were read] NAJAM
dunno ab those posts. ab those scarlet sins tho ... the less said the better;)

AfshaaN. was red riding hd the original scarlet woman(TM)?
From: minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Afghan flood assistance : Koor -e-Khud ,Bena-e-Mardum
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:07:04 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

>In article <92290.100707SAYED@auvm.american.edu> <SAYED@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>

>Cheers!!
>Haji King Shaikh Meer Dr. Sayed Abdul Wasi Al-Hussaini
>...I am only in charge of the Camels!!..
>
>
al-haj navab changez shah zafar-ullah tasleem minhas khan-zadah
bus zafar hee to theek hai!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan)
Subject: Re: spelling problems..... ;-)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 18:31:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.105029.20296@crc.ac.uk>, fkhurshi@crc.ac.uk (Ms F. Khurshid) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct9.184158.21305@athena.mit.edu>, anajam@athena.mit.edu (ADIL NAJAM) writes:
|> > 
|> > 
|> > Hello you amreekaanoz.......do you all have the same promlems with US/British
|>             ^^^^^^^^^^^
|> OK OK I know this newsgroup is dominated by 'americano's' but us European's
|> deserve a look in too :-)
|> 
|> > spellings that I do.....you know, humor is not really humour?  If so, you might
|>                                     ^^^^
|>                        ...yeah i agree esp. when it's American humour ;-)
|> 
|> >(deleted portion)
|> 
|> YOu say t'am'ay'to i say Tomato
|> ........potatoe i say potato  :-)
|>              **
|> 
|> 

Ms. Khurshid,

We just off the boat amreekan's,  have our own spelling system. Not anywhere
close to angraiz or amreekan.
But remeber if you speak with an accent and shake your head a number of times
they might mistake you for south indian.

sahibzada rafay khan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP)
Subject: Re: Asian models, a friendly disagreement and some extra :-)'s
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 07:56:00 GMT

In article <13OCT199218070917@iago.caltech.edu>, mughal@iago.caltech.edu (ASIM M MUGHAL) writes...
>In article <13OCT199216333497@juliet.caltech.edu>, azeem@juliet.caltech.edu (Azeem, Mohammad) writes...
>>In article <13OCT199208420774@vxcrna.cern.ch>, mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP) writes...
>> 
> 
>>     	the history of Islam, it was spread with the help of the
>>     	sword. Ashamed to be a part of an unjust system.
> 
>     No, Islam was not spread with the help of the sword. Let's
>     not fall in the clinch of western propaganda.
> 
>> 
>>Mohammad Azeem
>> 
> 
>     Asim Mughal
>     [Standard Disclaimer]

	You are right for the first few years of Islam. Obviously extraordinary
	character of Mohammad produced a lot of attraction to it. But
	then,..Let us see, why not take example of India. Well what happened
	.. I think it was Mohammad bin Qasim who first wanted to kiss
	indians and then the arabs kept kissing Multan for few hubdred
	years until they were defeated by their "RAQEEB-e-RUSIAH" from
	afghnistan (Also muslims)?.
	[ It is important to note that Hajaj bin Yousif was allowed
	to attack india by the Caleph in Baghdad only when he promised
	that he will produce twice as much in gold as it will cost. This
	fact is barely mentioned in our school books. We prefer to mention
	this Haj story. Also the fact that
	atleast two or three times before arabs tried through Iran to attack 
	india but were defeated by the Blochees. It is also very interesting
	that during the attack to india Hajaj bin yousef died and 
	Mohammad bin Qasim was taken back rolled in a "suf" and 
	smoked as punishment since the new Governer hated his uncle.
	An interesting arab character we should never forget while studing
	these facts.]
	Ok let us come back to love affairs. Then I think it was
	Mohamood Ghaznavi who came in and kissed indian once and had so
	much fun that had to repeat it 16 more times. Well from then it was
	all obvious and there is a long list of love and kisses....
	Please save Moghal King AKBAR from this list. The only
	extraordinary king we had (its our tragedy we had only one
	of him). And the indian muslims... well there are always
	people who feel it safe to play with the rulers whoever they are.
	[beside many attacker who setteled in India]
	Even now whenever we have a change in governament in Pakistan
	every day you get news like this

	   Jinab HAJI Molah Bakhs .. entering to the party of Quid-e-Awam, 
	   Mojahid-i-Islam, Fakhr-e-Pakistan.....
	   along with his 5000 followers.....

	We all know our culture and history a bit dont we?

Mirza Ilyas
	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: ahasan@cae.wisc.edu (Ali Hasan)
Subject: Re: Jesus: MightyProphet NotSonOfGod
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:07:48 CDT

In article <1992Oct9.124002.5725@gw.wmich.edu> x91waqas@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>
>Dear Brother Ali,
>
>	The article in itself is quite clear, I don't understand why you have
>problem understanding it.  Further more, you have your own view of the world
>and religion.  There is an explanation to every phenomena, but one must strive
>to seek it.  It's good to have opinions but one must update his perception of
>the world with knowledge to come closer to the reality. 
>
>	Peace.
>
>Your Brother,
>
>Akhtar Waqas.

	I did not have any problems understanding the article, but I did
have problems with what your conclusion. Something on the lines of

	* Roses are red
	* Toasters work of electricity

	Thus we can infer that I am a great man!

If I "update" my opinions, I have trouble believing in religion. What is
reality? Is my reality the same as yours? Do blondes really have more fun?
Am I finally out of my mind?

						--ali.


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