HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Re: Need your help!
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:22:57 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.160305.28784@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.140620.21044@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> 
>mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes:
>>
>>
>>I am planning to travel to Hamburg/Germany within next month. 
>
>Does this mean we will have a complete news blackout? :-)


 I am just taking one month vacation. I need it bad? 
 
 I shall return after one month. However, I will have access to Internet,
 hopefully I will continue postings the related news about our country(Iran)
 from there.

 Best regard
 Amir

 P.S. BTW I would like to thank all those people who have sent me mails for
      their support. Just to let you know I have had E_mails from just about
      every Internet sites around the World, except our dear country. 
      Hopefully, they will be connected soon and enjoy this great feature.
From: sean@renfield.uucp (Sean Namazi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Parsi Language (was Re: Amojoon's VAjeh-nAmeh)
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:08:50 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Seattle Silicon Corporation, Bellevue, WA

Here is a classic.  See if you can top this one.


Expression		Literal Translation      	Real Meaning
--------------------------------------------------------------------
Taklifamo-             Light-up my homework             ?what should
roshan kon                                               I do??    		




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From: amehdi@src.honeywell.com (Hossien Amehdi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: IRANIAN REVOLUTION DATE!
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:38:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: src.1992Apr16.203811.2818
Distribution: usa
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center

In article <1992Apr15.230206.20439@acsu.buffalo.edu> sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.185117.6774@src.honeywell.com> amehdi@src.honeywell.com (Hossien Amehdi) writes:
>>>>>I remember after the revolution back in 1977 in Iran the most brutal and
>
>>>>Was the another revolution in 1977 in Iran that I am not aware of?!!!
>>>Yup! EnghelAbeh Sefid!!!! Remember we had to memorize the original 12 "asl"
>>>in school and then 12 "asl" became some 17 or 18 asls. EnghelAbeh s
>>
>>The so called "white revolution" was proclaimed by the Shah in early
>>60s, probably in 1963, but definitely not 1977!
>>
>>What is the 12 "asl" that your are referring to in your article?
>
>Folks , Folks , Folks 
>
>    I    A  M    S  O  R  R  Y       !!!!!!!!
>
>It was a simple mistake .... let's save the bandwidth ...   ok ?
                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ...   ^^ ?
			      You too !                      OK ?
>
>1977=1979  .....   1977 = (not) 1969    
>
>Regards 


Mr. Ramin S., next time you decide to report a horrible massacre such
as the one you described (remember mob of fanatic Muslims burning a whole 
neighborhood in Shiraz), please try to at least get the date right.
Usually atrocities of this magnitude if not reported in the media, are
spread around (faster than the speed of light in Iran !!!) by the word of
mouth. Therefore, I was wondering how could I have missed hearing that
news!!! I talked to a number of people and your claim was news to them
also!

You first report something with a wrong date and when I try to find out
exactly what date you intended to write, you are telling us to save the 
bandwidth! In a sense you are saying we have been waisting the bandwidth!

If you are really concerned about saving the bandwith please refrain from 
posting rumors,otherwise you'll be asked by people like me to backup your
claims with some evidence, and at the minimum you'll be asked to explain
when exactly the alleged event took place! 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad)
Subject: Re: PERSIAN MEN
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 19:14:30 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

In article <92106.200516U33720@uicvm.uic.edu> P.             <U33720@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Dear lida,
>I am a twenty six year old woman , who has been going out with a persian
>man for five  years. And I am persian also. May be I am more experienced
>than you are!!!! since I am older, so let me give you some advise.
>I have been in USA for 7 years and I have had two persion boyfriends.
>Let me tell you this, that one of them was total jurk and this one is
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>total sweetheart. It is so hard to generalize them(persian men), as old
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Since we're all into generalization here, we can add that all women
think the guys they used to date were jerks, and the guy they're with
is prince charming. Of course as soon as he becomes an ex-boyfriend,
he becomes a jerk too. Doesn't sound too good does it. Ladies please
don't generalize, you all sound like Betty "the bitch" Mahmoody here. 
What's next? A book called "Not without my set of clean underware that
I keep at your place, just in case".

>fashion or open minded. But by the granma's law!, dont get friendy with
>them unless you know them well. Because "be ghole maroof agar beheshon
>roo bedy, shalwar ham mikhan." By the way I don't want to insult one but

Don't mean to be molla loghati but isn't it roo bedy, astar ham
mikhan. Shalvar ke jaye khod dare.

>unfortunately it is true. By the way I like to "vaght ra ghanimat beshmaram"
>appreciate the very open minded and educated Iranian in this network..


Thank you for your kind words. I feel all good about myself now.



Payandeh Baad Iran
Alireza
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: arash@sunee.waterloo.edu (Arash Jahangir)
Subject: Re: Iraq combats Iranian sorties, violates peace treaty
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:28:33 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.184801.1091@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>[...Response to the Iraqi Ba'thy deleted]
>
>There is no need for this crapola on the net. There should be some level of
>civility.
>
>zafar

Exactly which of my comments are you refering to Zafar?  For the most parts I
only pointed out that Iran could not have caused what Iraqies did not want and
proceeded to ensure this guy that I can read him the history of Iraqi Ba'th
party which would prove a real embaracement.  Anybody who makes fighter logo
at the bottom of his post and writes Al Hossein across the page in this news-
group is defenitly asking for it.  Still I think I can logically justify any-
thing I said in that post.  Believe me, if I really wanted to insult him I 
would have read him pieces of his history that would burn him so bad he would
not be able to sleep for a few nights.  In fact I you do not find a single one
of my sentences that tells him directly to go ... (as much as I was tempted to)
The few rough ones that you saw were really as an attempt to help him under-
stand Mr. Taqwaa and his position better :-)  You know that I would never
knowingly cross the boundries of civility O:-)

Cheers,
 Arash
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Re: Terrorist Khomeini regime attacks an NLA Base
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:47:39 GMT

In article <saied.702538216@odin> saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>
>
>According to the Mojahedin, the terrorist
>Khomeini regime attacked one of the NLA bases
>this morning. One NLA combatant was martyred.
>Some buildings and military equipment were
>damaged. One of the attacking planes was
>downed and the pilot and co-pilot captured.
>
>The supporters of the Iranian resistance
>in New York, Ottawa, and 16 other European
>countries have attacked the terrorist nests
>of the regime, setting the place afire, or
>destroying regime's belongings.
>
>A demonstration is planned for Tuesday.
>
>The Leader of the Iranian Resistance has
>sent telegrams to the UN Sec. General, 
>members of the UN Security Council, and 
>other UN bodies, condmening the attack.
>
>More details later.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

 Dear Mr(s.?) Saied*

 It seems to me that you have a great deal of information about MKO. 
 Please give us 'More details' information on how/why/when MKO attacked
 innocent Iranian villagers who live close to Iran/Iraq border. I read
 something about that on Headlines News but it was not given on 'details'.

 Thanks in advance
 Amir Taghavi*


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi)
Subject: Re: Protesters face charges in seizing of city's Iranian mission
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:05:35 GMT

In article <saied.702783462@odin> saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*) writes:
>mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes:
>
>
>>	NEW YORK (UPI) -- Five Iranian sympathizers who seized and wrecked the
>>offices of the Iranian mission to the United Nations and held three men
>> [stuff deleted]
>
>The young men are scheduled to be freed today or tomorrow.
>

	Thanks for the info. Perhaps you should call UPI and give them
	the good news, so they will reflect it in World News.

	Again I thank you for the info.

	Amir Taghavi*
From: g9011935@cc.uow.edu.au (iraj hoshyari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: test
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:15:35 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong


This is just for test. Please ignore it.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi)
Subject: Re: Iraq combats Iranian sorties, violates peace treaty
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 12:52:40 GMT

In article <2505@keele.keele.ac.uk> phd21@seq1.kl.ac.uk (A. Jaber) writes:

>	You are absolutely right, but I am afraid the Khomeini Gang that
>	runs Iran from Qum is not going to have any mercy on the Iranian

Actually, Iran is run from Tehran, not Qum!

>	people. The Khomeinist have learned a good lesson from their
>	ally the Buthcer of Hama Hafez-Al-Assad of Syria how to wipe out
>	a whole city like what he did in Hama where he killed 40,000
>	people to stop the revolution toppling him. 

Very evil deed, indeed!

>       I could visualize 
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	this happening in Iran when the Iranian people had enough of
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	this mess to see the Fanatic gangs wiping out whole cities.

Good visualization exercise!

>	The Khomeinist gangs are out for a fight thinking that Iraq 
>	is weakened, they started this business of sabotage just after
>	the Gulf War Iraq-USA, by sending 80,000 Iranians and some 
>	Iraqis from the Criminal Hakeem Gangs into Basra to help the 
>	USA to cover up the crimes committed in the attack on the Iraqi 
>	people. The Khomeinists never learned from 8-year war. 

For your info, the MKO has been condcucting raids into Iran from Iraq.
Iran has said that while it completely respects the sovereignity and
territorial integrity of Iraq, it feels itself justified in striking
at the MKO.  MKO is a military group in Iraq with the stated goal of
lanuching an offensive against Iran and they have attacked Iran 
repeatedly.   Common sense says that neither the peace-loving Mr. 
Saddam Hussain nor the innocent Mr. Rajavi (head of the MKO) are 
in a position to complain about Iran's attack on the MKO.

>	If you compare Iraq-92 with Iraq-80 you will find the present
>	Iraq much stronger than that of 1980 regardless of the losses in
>	the war with the USA.

Don't worry; there  isn't going to be another war between the two 
countries.

>	If the Khomeini Gang is not supporting the Criminal Hakeem
>	who is now based in Both Riyadh and Tehran Iraq will never 
>	host Mujahidee Khalq. It is up to the Iranian people to choose
>	one more Million or peace.

For your info, it was the Iraqi government who at the beginning of the
Iran-Iraq war expelled over 100,000 Iraqi Shias to Iran; their only
sin was that somebody among their ancestors was from Iran.  Now you
are complaining that Iran is hosting these people who are hostile 
to Iraq!!  This is a problem that Mr. Saddam Hussain created for himself.
If he doesn't like these people to be hosted in Iran, why did he 
expel them to Iran in the first place?

Behnam Sadeghi

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: Terrorist Khomeini regime attacks an NLA Base
Originator: sehari@vincent1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:41:01 GMT

In <javad.702597293@nsisrv> javad@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov (Javad Boroumand;NSIUSO) writes:

>mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes:


>> Dear Mr(s.?) Saied*

>> It seems to me that you have a great deal of information about MKO. 
>> Please give us 'More details' information on how/why/when MKO attacked
>> innocent Iranian villagers who live close to Iran/Iraq border. I read
>> something about that on Headlines News but it was not given on 'details'.

>Headline News mentioned the regime's news agency as the source for the
>villages attack. It has not been independently confirmed.  The regime's

Nevertheless, it make sense. If MKO wants to use force from Iraq, the only
way to do it is to attack from somewhere, then kind of "capture" Iran.
Though, it sounds stupid strategy.  However, their ways are very much like
Khamar Rozhe.  One might wonder, how many other kids should die, because of 
their stupid strategy?!  Then there is a question that if such incompetent
strategists, to say the least, could be trusted with the future of Iran?!

>attack against NLA has been acknowledged by the regime.  The NLA has
>denied the alleged village attacks.  The regime should ask the UN to
>visit the villages to comfirm its claim.  That's how it is
>usually done in such cases.  Last year when the regime attacked NLA
>bases after the Gulf War, NLA asked the UN to visit the area.  
>Besids, you can not prove a negative.

I wonder, if these bases are not for such future attacks, then what are
they for?  Movie studios?! -:)  One should be very ignorant, not to see such a
big sign of "armed preparation", and do not conclude that these bases would
be used sooner or later for attacks to Iran's boarder.

I never understood why Mojaheadine sided with Iraq's regime in the Iran
Iraq war?!  I never understood, why Mojaheadine help saddam to defeat
Kurds?!  I never understood why they are defending the Iraq's boarders
against Iranian army?!  I never understood why  they are supporting the
Saddam's regime, and defending him ?!  I never understood why they have
provided intelligence information to almost all of Iran's enemies? Then
again, I never understood why Khamar Rozhe still have a loyal army in
Cambodia?!

I never understood how one could support MKO?!  The only answers that
I am seeing in the net is because some people hate the current regime
so much that they are blinded with their own hate and do not see the
deeper well.

My feeling toward them is sorrow for mis-guided people, who their
ambition to gain total power, and  create "protaria dictatorship" plus
an Islamic State, cost all of us, Iranians, a lot.  May god guide us all
to the right path.  May be this is a reason, that all the Moslems should
pray to the god and ask for guidance from the god 10 times a day, reading
the Hamd Sora.

                      With highest regards,
                           Babak   Sehari.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi)
Subject: Re: Reply to  Bahaies  gang
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 14:48:49 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.193027.15780@athena.mit.edu> nsohrabi@athena.mit.edu (Naghmeh Sohrabi) writes:

>anyway, just to make a controversial statement, don't you think if seeghe is
>"legalized" temporary prostitution, most (I said most) marriages are "legalized"
>permanent prostitution also? (just a thought...)

Sounds like you're somewhat influenced by Haeri's book.  

To pose an even more controversial question:  Do you think Iranian women
associate the hair on their head with pubic hair?  This view is held
by S. Ha'eri in her book.  

Behnam Sadeghi

P.S.   An interesting point is that the author claims it to be HER OWN
discovery that Iranian women associate the hair on their head with  
pubic hair.  This a case of plagiarism because I had already read the
same discovery in another book and the book is cited in Haeri's
bibliography.

P.P.S.  The author cites no evidence for this interesting and 
controversial finding.  (Typical of the rest of her book).

P.P.P.S  Those of you who think I am joking or making this 
stuff up:  I am dead serious.
From: sean@renfield.uucp (Sean Namazi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not :-)?)
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:00:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: renfield.1992Apr15.160040.22366
Organization: Seattle Silicon Corporation, Bellevue, WA



Are poems by Iraj Mirza allowed here?


BTW, I got tons of responses in regards to "MoAfi" (just too many), and I am not
going to share it with anyone.

Rooz-Khosh.



-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Re: Protesters face charges in seizing of city's Iranian mission
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:37:42 GMT

mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes:


>	NEW YORK (UPI) -- Five Iranian sympathizers who seized and wrecked the
>offices of the Iranian mission to the United Nations and held three men
> [stuff deleted]

The young men are scheduled to be freed today or tomorrow.
From: ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Ali ("Dorood bar oo bAd")
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:02:50 GMT
Organization: British Telecom

In article <1992Apr6.190939.12348@rdg.dec.com> hakim@bigq.enet.dec.com (Kamran Hakim) writes:

> >In article <1992Mar30.212927.16922@engage.pko.dec.com> hakim@bigq.enet.dec.com (Kamran Hakim) writes:

> KH> 2- Another reason for the usage of the lunar calendar in Islam is that 
> KH>    Jewish Faith, Christianity and Islam are sister religions, and
> KH>    their PROPHECIES are intertwined, and related to one-another, and
> KH>    predict the same final event........... If Islam was to use a solar 
> KH>    calendar, the prophecies of these religions could not have converged.

> In article <1992Apr3.123436.912@fmg.bt.co.uk>, ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein 
> Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani) you write:

> HBR>Oops! I thought we are engaged in a "serious" discussion here.  

> This strange. I thought so too. :-)

> HBR>You should do better than this to propogate your religion among a group with
> HBR>the level of intelligence as those on the net.

> :-) :-) Mr. Rafsanjani, my religion will be propagated and established, 
> not by me, or through my efforts, but, by the actions of those who are 
> so hateful towards it! Let us ascend above puny name calling and reading 
> into what other people write here, and return to the topic of discussion 
> which is: "Why Islam uses a lunar calendar?" 

I am sorry if I sounded offensive.  I have nothing against Baha'is or other
"maz'habi"s.  I however, have certain ideas about religions in general and some
religions in particular.  You must have read my postings about these subjects
(and inparticular, Islam) in the past.  I was just astonished to find myself
facing such a reasoning.  That's all!

> It is perfectly reasonable to supply a theological answer to a theo-
> logical question. 

But wait a moment.  The question "Why Islam uses a lunar calendar?" is not
theological, is it?  Islam is a religion.  It has its theological concepts and
it also has its social, cultural, political etc. aspects.  Not everything about
Islam is theological.  The question of calendar is to do with the physical
world (the Sun, the Moon, the Earth and their relative positions, movements
etc).  Now, if you want to turn it into a theological question, just becuase it
is convenient then to be used for some other theological claim (the year 1260
etc), then I am afraid I will not be able to call it "serious" any more (to
put it politely :-)).

> I have no doubt about the intelligence of those on 
> the net, this is why I treated the subject in a serious manner. I 
> have offered two possible reasons for the usage of the lunar calendar, 
> and you appear to offer a good reason as well. Let us leave accusation 
> and focus on the discussion.

Again, no accusation or offence was intended.  Sorry for the pun.

> Warm regards,

> Kamran Hakim

Regards,

-hossein
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.german,rec.travel.air
From: aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb)
Subject: Re: Need your help!
Organization: SedA va SimAyeh SCI 
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:51:40 GMT


In article <1992Apr10.162257.24182@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> 
mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes:

>>>I am planning to travel to Hamburg/Germany within next month.
>>
>>Does this mean we will have a complete news blackout? :-)
>
> I am just taking one month vacation. I need it bad.
>
> I shall return after one month. However, I will have access to Internet,
> hopefully I will continue postings the related news about our country(Iran)
> from there.

You know, I have a suggestion. Sometimes, when I take vacation, I take
my work with me. By definition, that would defeat the whole purpose of
vacationing. So then I not only end up still tired and worn out, but I
have lost all my money as well. 

As you say, you seem to need vacation real bad. Why don't you take the
month off and enjoy your stay in Hamburg. You can maybe visit the former
East Germany and bring us accounts of the events and activities there.  You
can also go to Berlin and visit Jamshid KhAn. 

In your absence we will try to connect to a news service and get all the 
news out, including the latest IBM and Microsoft battle. 

Make sure you bring some soghAti for everyone. I want a piece of the
Berlin wall, if there is any left.


Aref :-)



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