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From:         M.E.Bennun@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: Loading the user dictionaries; selecting the main dictionary.
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              Dec23, 92 5:21 pm

GLDBRGJO@EARN.NYUACF wrote........
>
>
> I haven't played with the dictionaries that much, but does the overlay
> command that appears at the bottom of the dictionary selection menu not
> load a second personal dictionary while maintaining the first?
>
> Yechiel Goldberg
>

It's supposed to, Yechiel, but does not; and I note that someone has
commented in similar terms a few minutes ago. One seems to be forced
to use the comma - oh, I beg the Great Dragonfly's pardon - action
line.

'Tis a bother, as I'm working on several texts with a host of
different SA'n proper names and a wodge of Afrikaans.
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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 92 15:07:44 AST
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From:         GLB0000 <GLB@UNB.CA>
Subject:      Re: Random Thoughts
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> On 22 Dec J. P. Earls sent a message suggesting that Dorothy Day act as
> a clearing house for "discoveries." I was struck by a random thought (the only
> kind I get) at the end of the message when J. P. wrote "Are you listening,
> Dorothy?" When I was in the signal corps of the Canadian Army, on the radio
> we used to ask "How do you read me?" (I think that radio hams use the same
> jargon.) I find it interesting that when we were telecommunicating in auditory
> mode we talked about "reading." Now here we are sending text and talking
> about listening. Not a criticism. Just a random thought.

There is a theory group within social work (it has probably extended
to psychology now, but I'm pretty sure it began in social work) who
talk about "neurolinguistic programming".  Their basic point is that
humans relate to their environment primarily through one particular
sense (or something like this).  The idea is that you can identify
the dominant sensory mode of any particular individual by paying
attention to the type of language that they use; people who talk
about reading are visual, people who talk about listening are
primarily auditory, etc.  Thus, rather than the McLuhanesque
(is that a word?) explanation that you provide focusing upon
the primacy of the particlar media, these individuals would
make much different sense out of the same observation.

Gary Bowden
Sociology, UNB
glb@unb.ca
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 92 11:03:00 GMT
From:         JAE2@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: decoding nbcustom.set
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I had Dieter's problem.  Then I found out by chance that a printer disk (!)
was corrupt, and got a whole new set, dual media this time, copying all
the master disks asap.  AND THE PROBLEM WENT AWAY - for most defaults, at
least.
(Also whoever said press M at make changes permanent gave the right advice.)
I think the moving up point has to do with a redundant cr somewhere near
the top, knocking that out helps, but if there's something wrong with your
disk, only for a while.
I still have ONE nbcustom.set out of the 4 or so that doesn's work... .

All this happened to a couple of other people on the list, so it might be worth
 checking out.

However I look forward to Itamar's file as there are various settings I don't
understand, and oddities I've only just discovered that make it harder -
lacking the proper docs - to customize style sheets in NB4.

Judy Evans  Politics  York Univ  England  jae2@uk.ac.york
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From:         "J-P Takala, University of Helsinki,
              Sociology" <JTAKALA@FINUHA.BITNET>
Subject:      NB4 and 1-floppy notebook
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Has anyone been able to get NB4 (or a subset of it) running on a
one-floppy no-hard-disk notebook?  I've used a Toshiba TS1000 (?)
with one 1.44 floppy, 1 M memory and no hard disk, successfully with
3.1 to take notes.  Now I would like to use NB4 for the same purpose
but failed.  Does anyone know whether it is possible?

j-p takala
jtakala@cc.helsinki.fi
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 92 00:56:26 IST
From:         GLDBRGJO@NYUACF.BITNET
Subject:      Re: blodge
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Now that we have all acknowledged receiving a blodge of mysterious e-mail
I ask, is a blodge the younger cousin of a wodge, and does it only apply
to mysterious e-mail?
Yechiel Goldberg
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From:         "J. P. Earls, OSB" <JEARLS@TINY.COMPUTING.CSBSJU.EDU>
Subject:      Mervyn's wodges
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Rob Lavenda--

The following does not decide the size issue of wodges.  I wrote
Mervyn some time back in admiration of what I thought was a
fine neologism--erroneously remembering it as "glodges"--and he,
after explaining that it was a common word for an unwonted thickness
of ink on paper, associated with typesetting rather than penmanship,
went on to give the following.  I trust that, in the spirit of the
season, Mervyn won't object to my sending it along the line by way
of a gift to all.
---------------------

A few years ago the GUARDIAN (a national high-quality daily with a
strong appeal to university staff) had an April 1st feature; it ran
the front pages of all the UK's national dailies as they would have
dealt with the latest news from the Indian Ocean islands of San
Serrife... a republic which is drifting slowly around the globe due to
erosion on one side and sedimentation on the other. It was one of the
most brilliant sustained bits of humour I have ever encountered. The
geography of San Serriffe is based on typographical terms; the north
island is called Caissa Superiore (Upper Caisse) and the south island
is called... etc. The President (a character who was elected for life
and married Elizabeth Baskerville) is General Pica, the capital is
Bodoni, and there are geographical features called Cap Em, the M'Flong
coast, the towns of Garamondo and Erbar..... it was hysterically
funny. I kept the whole thing; and I'm looking at the review of
tourism as the Guardian itself might have featured it: "Although the
hinterland is still largely swamp, malaria has been almost eradicated,
and the Highway General Pica drives from the coast to the treacherous
Woj of Tipe.....)
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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
Phone: (+44) (0) 392 263 161
Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:19:48 -0600
From:         Kenneth Salzberg <ksalzber@HAMLINE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Running XPL programs
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I've got the NBIP= line in my nbcustom.set file, and it points to the
XPL sub-directory, and it works fine from the menu, and it _doesn't_
work from the action line.  I'm probably doing something wrong, but
since the solution of putting \nb4\xpl in my path is easy, and works
(even if it's not the elegant, making-nb4-work-as-it-should solution),
I'll do that, and wait for someone, or some update, to tell me how to
do it "right".

--Ken Salzberg
ksalzber@hamline.edu
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From:         "Mark A. Husbands" <husbands@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Orbis and its limitations
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Does anyone out there use Orbis with Qemm under Windows 3.1 successfully?

I have been using it for some time to do the occasional text-base
reference with no apparent difficulties. In writing my current paper,
however, I am having to re-boot about every third or fourth search,
making the relative merits of Orbis (in its present form)
somewhat less glorious than I had previously imagined.

If anyone has had similar difficulties and found a way out, kindly
pass on your words of wisdom.

If all of this is to be fixed or somehow improved in the actual,
full-fledged version of the program...does anyone have the "foggiest"
when that will be?

Just wondering! <8-(


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Mark Husbands                           Toronto School of Theology
Internet: husbands@epas.utoronto.ca     University of Toronto
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 92 20:00:42 IST
From:         Joseph Tzelgov <tzelgov@BGUMAIL.BGU.AC.IL>
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correction to may previous message: I am using the 3.1 version> but my
basic  question  still holds: why should I (or may be should I not) swith
to the 4.0 version. Yossi


Joseph Tzelgov
Department of Behavioral Sciences
Ben Gurion University of the Negev;  Phone 972-57-472078; Fax 972-57-232766
Beer Sheva ISRAEL 84105              E-mail: tzelgov@bgumail.bgu.ac.il.bitnet



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From:         "Mark D. Szuchman, History,
              Florida Int. Univ." <SZUCHMAN@SERVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re 2-M dashes in NB4
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Itamar responds that he is puzzled by my posting regarding the 2-m dashes on
an HP laserjet II-P or II.  He is able to do so on an HP-III.

I have not looked at the PRN of an HP-III, Itamar, so I can't compare it with
the II-P's contents.  However, it is clear to me that the dashes form part of
the larger picture of graphic lines that are missing in the II and II-P
drivers altogether.  In other words, although the keystrokes of Alt Gray Minus
or Plus provided the dashes on screen, they failed to print.  The same was tru
of all the single and double lines supposedly available.  Someone simply
forgot to include the substitution characters in the driver.  Undoubtedly,
they are aware of this and other shortcomings in the laserjet printer drivers
(try to print out with automatic leading as an example of a glitch), and will
be providing fixes.  It might well be that the individual(s) who worked on the
HP-III drivers was more thorough.
Happy New Year to all.

Mark D. Szuchman, History, FIU
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 92 01:45:22 EST
From:         Dorothy Day <DAY@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Those NBM# settings in NBCUSTOM.SET

I retract my profession of ignorance in my longer message regarding
the NBP1..NBP9 settings in NBCUSTOM.SET. Examining a more recent
version of that file, I find that the filenames entered in the Alt-F7
(or F1-File-Pick filepad) menu are the ones recorded in NBP1 etc. To
add a new name, you just select C (Change filepad name), or hit Enter
on a blank line, and the template for the list comes up for you to
edit. Next mystery?

Dorothy Day, Indiana University
Bitnet: DAY@IUBACS
Internet: day@ucs.indiana.edu
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Date:         Fri, 1 Jan 93 23:07:47 IST
From:         "Itamar Even-Zohar" <itiez@CCSG.TAU.AC.IL>
Subject:      Re: Re 2-M dashes in NB4
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I was referring to ALT+dash and ALT+dash+dash (ALT-, ALT--), not
to the gray minus/plus sign. Perhaps ALT+gray minus produces the
same sign as ALT+dash, but I have no recollection of such a
combination.

Itamar

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From:         "Mark D. Szuchman, History,
              Florida Int. Univ." <SZUCHMAN@SERVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re 2-M dashes in NB4
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Itamar is right in that ALT white- will provide dashes, both on screen and on
paper.  However, they suffer from two flaws.  First, they are not true
m-dashes, and second, they are shortened within certain range of proportional
point sizes to such an extent that they begin to look like specks instead of a
proportionately-sized elongated dash.  By contrast, laser jet drivers in NB3
did provide true m-dashes (they were accessed with CTL ALT gray-).  Two such
keystrokes in a row and a properly elongated dash was available in every fixed
and proportionate size.  I did two things:  (1) imported the relevant sections
of the NB3 printer driver into the NB4 driver, and (2) assigned the old
keystroke combination of CTL ALT gray minus to the NB4 keyboard.

As for automatic leading, I thank Tim Moore for his VL discovery.  Can you
specify what values you gave the setting in your HP-III driver?

Mark D. Szuchman, History, FIU
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From:         "Cora A. Diamond" <cad2m@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      Running XPL programs
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An answer to Mervyn's questions today.  You can get set up paths for
NB4 to find your data (text) files with this menu sequence: F1 S O F,
and then R.  For special files choose S instead of R.  The path you
should enter for XPL programs is on the bottom line of that screen.
However, I no longer believe that that does the trick for *running*
XPL programs, although it does for *calling* them as files.  J-P
Takala has pointed out to me that the running of XPL programs is
determined by the DOS path, not NB's private path; and I think he is
correct.  I have been successful, as I previously stated, in running
an XPL program from anywhere in NB4 just by the command 'run
<filename>', but that turns out to be because I load NB4 via a batch
file, that the opening line of that file is a new 'path=...' command
that I set up specially for NB4, and that that path includes
'C:/NB/PRGRM;'  The closing line of the batch file restores my normal
DOS path.

And, as far I know, there is nothing canonical about all those special
subdirectories that NB4 insisted on creating during installation.  For
example, I don't use the SPELL subdirectory, because I already have
all the .SPL files I want in my old NB3 subdirectory /NB/NB/, and I
continue to use them from there.
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From:         dave reimer f <dreimer4@MACH1.WLU.CA>
Subject:      Saving *.BAK / LB display
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Someone mentioned "asking for the moon" a while back. These questions
probably fit into that category....

1) I have long wanted to be able to have NB *automatically* store all
the *.BAK files in their own directory. I find having them in my ordinary
"working" directories a distracting clutter. At the same time, I don't
simply want to do away with them entirely! Any suggestions? I can't
find a "Set" menu in 4.0 that will take care of this.

2) This is even sillier, I fear. I would *very* much like to have
labels, as in <<LBtext...>>, display in a unique way. As it stands,
they display in the same mode as italics. I habitually use labels as
notes to myself, while italics are simply part of the text. The
difference, then, is that labels should stand out, while italics
should blend in. Again the plea goes out: any suggestions?

This is also an opportune moment to wish all my NOTABENE list-mates a
*peaceful* 1993.

David.
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David J. Reimer, Religion & Culture                  Fax: (519) 886-9351
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Subject:      Re: Dorothy Day's NBCUSTOM.SETATE1L0M1Q0V1X4&C1&D2 S7=60 S11=55
              S0=0
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I retrieved UUEXE515.ZIP from SIMTEL20 yesterday, removed the non-xxencoded
text from Dorothy's message and saved the plain xxencoded material under
a differenct name with an xxe extension, and proceded with a

        uudecode filename.xxe

POOF!  There was Dorothy's zip file ready for unzipping or reading with
Vernon D. Buerg's LIST.  Couldn't have been easier.  Thank you, Dorothy.

Paul Caron                              G9026163@SSCvax.CIS.McMaster.CA
McMaster University
Hamilton, Ont.
CANADA
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When I try to use UUDECODE on Dorothy Day's NBCUSTOM materia, I keep
getting a message that there is an unacceptable character in line 46.  That
line looks congenial enough to me, but then, I am often fond of
unacceptable characters.

:-)

Tim Moore
Department of Philosophy]
The University of Hong Kong
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From:         "M. Roy Harris" <mrh3b@FARADAY.CLAS.VIRGINIA.EDU>
Subject:      Lingua on EGA monitor
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I'm doing some work again with the Lingua NB.FNT file, the
repertory of screen fonts for EGA/VGA monitors. You know from my
discussions of VGA fonts and Lingua that NB.FNT has 57,344 bytes
on a VGA installation. Would someone who is using Lingua on an
EGA monitor be kind enough to look at your NB.FNT and tell me its
size? I suspect that it may have only 50,176 bytes, but need to
know for certain whether it is smaller or the same size as the
file for a VGA monitor.

Thanks,

Roy Harris - University of Virginia
mrh3b@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU, mrh3b@Virginia.Bitnet
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Subject:      Loading the user dictionaries; selecting the main dictionary.
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I've struggled long enough with this to be doubt that I am misreading
the documentation such as it is.

I use two user dictionaries normally: one a fairly stable one with
things like my name and other words which occur in many files; and the
other a highly "file-specific" one. I cannot use the f1-c-d...
options to load them both, whether with f10 or enter. I have made the
frequent-use dictionary the default, and it seems to appear as this in
nbcustom.set. The documentation says that it will be loaded when
needed.

I find that the only way I can get the two dictionaries loaded is by
using the command line, putting the file-specific one first so that
new words are added to it; and then loading the more general one
with the + command. Thereafter, things work ok. But it is impossible
using the menus.

Is this a reported problem? Have others encountered it also? Am I
missing something?

Further, when going back to spelling basics to sort this out, and
selecting the main language dictionary, I was told when I tried to
select British English and make it the default that ENGLISH.OV3 was
not found. I copied this from \nb3, and the attempt to make it the
default went ticketyboo in that the sense that there was no protest
when I repeated the process. I thought that I had installed NB with
this option, so I'm puzzled. But it did not solve the loading problem
for the user dictionaries.
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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
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Postal Address: Amory Building, Rennes Drive, Exeter EX4 4RJ, Devon, U.K.
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Subject:      Going narrow when loading custom.set
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Why does the text width become almost zero when using the command "load
nbcustom.set"?

Is it avoidable; or is it remediable by something less drastic than
quitting and reloading?
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Mervyn E. Bennun, Law Department, University of Exeter
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From: juhatsan@polaris.utu.fi (Juha2 Tapani Santala)
Subject: Re: OS/2
Organization: University of Turku, Computing Centre
Date: 22 Dec 92 10:32:52

In article <Pine.3.05.9212191010.B27604-8100000@ccsg.tau.ac.il> "Itamar Even-Zohar" <itiez@CCSG.TAU.AC.IL> writes:

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> Re: OS2

> There must be some list for OS2, where OS2 problems can be discussed.
> In addition, on JPSOFT there are discussions of 4OS2, the equivalent
> of 4DOS.

> Itamar

My friend informed me yesterday that he got infomation from JP Software
that there is a version of 4OS2 for OS/2 2.0. I am not sure is it ready, 
but it seems to be coming very soon. By the way, there is coming a version
of Stacker for OS/2.

Juha Santala
student secretary in Turku

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