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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:40:13 EST
Reply-To:     Laura Milera <DOCWOMAN@PACEVM.BITNET>
From:         Laura Milera <DOCWOMAN@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      TAN: Books of Interest (Freelance)

Hi All:

Among today's junk mail, I received glossies from the Graphic Artist's
Book Club.  Among the book ads concerning type, design, dtp tips, etc.,
three books in particular caught my eye, and may be of interest to you
freelancers out there.  They are:

*1*
The Designer's Commonsense Business Book (by Barbara Ganim)
"At last - what they never taught you in art or design school!  Barbara
Ganim gives you all the crucial stuff you need to run a business, without
all the jargon - everything from starting your own shop to coping with
too much success."

*2*
The Professional Designer's Guide to Marketing Your Work (by Mary Yeung)
"Ten up-and-coming designers and illustrators show you their bag of
tricks for earning big jobs, including strong, competitive portfolios
and persuasive presentations."

*3 & 4*
A) Getting Started as a Freelance Illustrator or Designer -and-
B) The Graphic Artist's Guide to Marketing & Self-Promotion (by Sally Prince
   Davis)
"Get the most from your efforts and talent!  Firsthand experiences of other
designers and illustrators show you exactly what to do and what to avoid."

*************************************************************************
Most should be available at bookstores or call Graphic Artist's Book Club
and ask for a brochure: 1-800-937-0963.

Laura
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:05:36 -0700
Reply-To:     "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
From:         "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      TAN: PC and Macs, FELIX!@#$

Felix! I knew you couldn't resist that little, eensy-weensy jab at the end of
my message about the superiority of PCs. I mention in the FAQ that this is an
often hash-out topic, but never guessed I would start it. But I was beginning
to miss the arguments, grow tired of all this talk about scanning and
Pagemaker! ;)  In fact, I am still staggering and short of breath from your
posting that I do not even have enough strength to respond!

Well, for once, I hope that nobody replies to my message!

Geof.
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:23:00 EST
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From:         "SO MUCH E-MAIL, SO LITTLE TIME" <STONEC@IUBACS.BITNET>
Subject: RE: catalog paging...

Someone said:

Regarding making a booklet where you turn the page sideways so that it
is in landscape orientation, and then have basically "two pages"
on one physical page, and simply stack up the sheets and staple
them in the middle, as far as I know, Pagemaker has no ability to
do this automatically.


-----------------
WRONG -- PageMaker DOES do automatic booklet pagination and layout, so that 1
and 16 are together, 2 and 15 etc.  Look under the options menu, select Aldus
additions and then select Make Booklet.   What?  No Aldus Additions?  No Make
Booklet?  Then you must not be using a macintosh..........

Buy a mac and get PM 4.2, or keep waiting and hoping for this feature on the PC
version of PM in 5.0, whenever it appears!

Cindy
(reason # 2008 why is switched from PC PM to Mac PM)
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From:         "SO MUCH E-MAIL, SO LITTLE TIME" <STONEC@IUBACS.BITNET>
Subject: RE: the $1300 PeeCee's...

Andrew Chiang:

Exactly where can I get a 486/33mhz with a 200 meg Hard drive, 4 meg of ram,
and both 3.5 and 5.25 High Density drives, and a color monitor keyboard and
mouse for a mere $1300?

If this is true, I've got my visa and a full tank of gas and I'm on my way to
California from Indiana....

Cindy Stone

P.S.  I've priced machines in both platforms extensively and that's an
unbelieveable deal!!!
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 07:59:38 EST
Reply-To:     Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
From:         Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Better Graphic's

Is there a way in PM that I can get my light solid fills to print
smooth instead of with lines? I did this once, but I can't seem to
remember how I did it!#@! I am printing to a LaserJet 4 in PS, using
a PC.



Jim Charles
Computer Data Systems Inc.
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Crane, Indiana
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:18:53 -0500
Reply-To:     E-MAIL JUNKIE <00SNDAVIS@BSUVAX1.BITNET>
From:         00sndavis@BSUVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Idea: FreeHand FAQ

I know many times FreeHand has cropped up on this list in discussion.
What about a net effort to create a FreeHand FAQ? I'd like to help
or get the ball rolling. Things that could be included in the FAQ
can also be PM related, like how to export, etc.
what does everyone thing? Let me know at:
00sndavis@bsuvax1   or 00sndavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Scott Davis, Ball State University, Muncie Indiana.
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:24:00 -0700
Reply-To:     "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
From:         "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Idea: FreeHand FAQ

> I know many times FreeHand has cropped up on this list in discussion.
> What about a net effort to create a FreeHand FAQ? I'd like to help
> or get the ball rolling. Things that could be included in the FAQ
> can also be PM related, like how to export, etc.
> what does everyone thing? Let me know at:
> 00sndavis@bsuvax1   or 00sndavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
> Scott Davis, Ball State University, Muncie Indiana.

There are those who may want to keep the list purely Pagemaker, but I
say without a doubt, WONDERFUL! I think its a great idea. I would be more
than willing to include it in the other documents that the list has set
open on WUARCHIVE -- I think it would make an excellent addition. You
have my vote!

Geof.
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:15:13 EST
Reply-To:     Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
From:         Jim Charles <JIM@SAFETY.NWSCC.SEA06.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Autoflow

How can I make my paragraphs "FLOW" as 1 document? I tried to cut and
then paste, but they come back in seperate again!


Jim Charles
Computer Data Systems Inc.
Naval Surface Warfare Center
Crane, Indiana
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 11:18:54 -0500
Reply-To:     "Things that make you go DUH!" <00SNDAVIS@BSUVAX1.BITNET>
From:         00sndavis@BSUVAX1.BITNET
Subject:      Tip for PageMaker FAQ, also FreeHand FAQ.

1. HEre's a tip for the PageMaker FAQ:
don't have a high density drive or MacLink Plus, but still want to transfer
a PC PM file to the Mac, here's what we did:
First, we made the PM file small as possible using "Save As"
Second, we uploaded it into our Vax using binary form.
Third, we donwloaded it to the Mac.
Finally, since the file appeared as document, we had to set the creator
and type for the file. A Macintosh file has a specific signature which
allows programs to recognize their own document types. In PageMaker 4,
the type is ALB4. The creator is ALD4. We used Central Point FileFix
(from MacTools Deluxe) to change it. ResEdit and Disktop can also be used.
A hsareware program called FielTyper will do the same thing. It can be
ftp'd at the wuarchive site in the directory mirrors/info-mac/util.
opps, that should be FileTyper.
Once we changed the document, it opened right up. We exeprienced a
problem when printing however. The file had a graphic (triangle) done
by a PC paint package. We got a "unsupported image" error. Anyways, we
deleated it and created a new one in FreeHand.

2. Please send you FAQs, tips and hints about Aldus FreeHand to me.
I am, going to attempt a FreeHand FAQ. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
My address:
Internet: 00sndavis@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
  Bitnet: 00sndavis@bsuvax1

-- Scott Davis, Ball State University, Muncie, Ind.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:56:00 CST
Reply-To:     Kerry Miller <ASTINGSH@KSUVM.BITNET>
From:         Kerry Miller <ASTINGSH@KSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Catalog paging

Josh Clark asked:
>     I am making a catalog for somebody. what I queation is how
>     do I get the page numbers to come out right? I am making
>     the catalog so that it can be stapled

There's no automatic numbering gimmick to do this, since it
depends on the number of pages altogether. Lay out the back
cover (say p. 12) on the left, the front cover (p. 1) on the
right of the first sheet; the thing to remember to switch
alternate pages (I assume you're intending to print double-
sided); i.e the inside front (p 2) is on the left,  inside back
on the right.
   Its probably easier to setup and print to half-page
dimensions, and manually paste the appropriate pages together
when you're done.


|{hm           kerry miller   <ASTINGSH@KSUVM.KSU.EDU>
From: acs_bev@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
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Subject: Driver for HP Laserjet 4M
Date: 22 Jan 93 08:38:05 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

Does anyone know if Aldus has a driver for PageMaker 4.2 for the new
HP printer - Laserjet 4M? 
 
_______________________________________________________________________________

Beverly Shepherd                            Internet: Beverly.Shepherd@uwrf.edu
Academic Computing Center
University of Wisconsin-River Falls
River Falls, WI 54022
715-425-3583
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Reply-To:     Alan Smith <ZA9RA12@SA.CS.MMU.AC.UK>
From:         Alan Smith <ZA9RA12@SA.CS.MMU.AC.UK>
Subject:      How do I obtain FAQ file?

(From Alan Smith   )

Hello,

I am new to this list. Geof Peters mentioned a FAQ file that had been
produced by some of the members of this list. I think that this would
be useful to me. How can I obtain the FAQ file?

Thanks.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 08:46:57 CDT
Reply-To:     Jeff Bone <JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU>
From:         Jeff Bone <JBONE@DOPIG.UAB.EDU>
Subject:      TAN: PhotoShop support of scanners

Geof writes...

> With all the talk about scanning packages, I have a quick question --
> does anyone know if Adobe Photoshop supports the Logitech *hand* scanners?
> I know for a fact that both Ofoto and Aldus' Photostyler do not support
> the hand scanners. Or does anyone know Adobe's number so that I can
> contact them?

Adobe doesn't support any scanners directly through PhotoShop, but instead
does it through their PSAPI (commonly known as the PhotoShop Plug-in).  This
leaves the ball in the court of the scanner maker.  The scanner maker writes
a custom acquire module for their scanner based on this spec and PhotoShop
supports it.  Some scanner makers who bundle PhotoShop go ahead and put their
plug-in in the PS box and make it install with all the other PS plug-ins.

My guess is that Logitech has written a plug-in for PhotoShop since the spec
is so widely used (other software now uses the PSAPI spec too:  Fractal
Paint, ColorStudio, et.al.).  First contact them and see, if that doesn't
work call Adobe, (415) 961-0911, and maybe they can help.




----------------------------------------------------------------
** Jeff Bone                                <jbone@dopig.uab.edu>
** Electronic Imaging Coordinator            AppleLink: jbone
** Photography and Instructional Graphics    205.934.4396 voice
** University of Alabama at Birmingham       205.934.3749 fax
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 01:25:00 EST
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Subject:      TAN: Public Access to Federal Jobs

Subject:      FEDJOBS


FEDJOBS is managed by LISTSERV@DARTCMS1 and has two components:
  1)  A set of files downloaded from varous Federal agencies.  An AFD
subscription mails these to you when they are updated.  An FUI subscription
mails you notification of their update so you can get them by FTP.
Add an AFD subscription by the command:
   AFD ADD FEDJOBS PACKAGE F=MAIL
end it with:
   AFD DEL FEDJOBS PACKAGE
FUI has a similiar syntax:
   FUI ADD FEDJOBS PACKAGE
   FUI DEL FEDJOBS PACKAGE

  2)  Subscription to the FEDJOBS mailing list.  This is a moderated, digested
list.  Once a day, subscribers get a mailing of all postings for the day.
The postings are "one off" job announcements from several sources of interest
to federal employees.   The jobs are both in government and the private
sector but are jobs likely to interest Federal employees.  The command is:
   SUB FEDJOBS "your name"

All commands should be sent to LISTSERV@DARTCMS1.DARTMOUTH.EDU or
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From: tims@bvc.edu
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Subject: Re: Driver for HP Laserjet 4M
Date: 23 Jan 93 19:28:00 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <1993Jan22.083805.667@rivers>, acs_bev@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
> Does anyone know if Aldus has a driver for PageMaker 4.2 for the new
> HP printer - Laserjet 4M? 
>  
> _____________________________________________________________________________
> 
> Beverly Shepherd                          Internet: Beverly.Shepherd@uwrf.edu

-----

Beverly: Aldus doesn't, but HP does.  You can get it by giving them a call 
and asking for the Aldus printer drivers for the LaserJet 4M.  The number 
for HP Custormer Support is 208-323-2551.

HTH ->

T.
....................................................................
Tim Seydel / Buena Vista College / Storm Lake Iowa / tims@bvc.edu
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:26:38 GMT
Reply-To:     Aidan Dillon <aidan@S3DUB.IE>
From:         Aidan Dillon <aidan@S3DUB.IE>
Subject:      TAN: Credit shows in Pagemaker, Windows...

The hidden credit lists for windows (and macs, amigas etc.. ) can be found in
     /pub/pc/win3/misc/secrets.zip at ftp.cica.indiana.edu

But are you supposed to be be working ? ;-)

Aidan Dillon

aidan@s3dub.ie
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:47:19 PST
Reply-To:     "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
From:         "Monte B. Olsen" <olsenm@CCMAIL.ORST.EDU>
Subject: Re: Clip-art for PageMaker anyone?

There is loads of clipart on the Sumex archives at Stanford.

actual address is:
sumex-aim.stanford.edu

It's in the
"info-mac/art"
directory for Mac folks.

There is also an enormous library of PC cli part available. I will find the
address and post it here today or tomorrow.

Monte
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:26:40 -0700
Reply-To:     "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
From:         "Geof Peters (TRUTH)" <TRUTH@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      Bunch of news...

Hello Everyone!

Just a few notes:

   I) I did it again! I made a reference to the location of the Pagemaker
      directory in the FAQ that is incorrect. The files are in the
      /doc/misc/pagemakr directory on WUARCHIVE.WUSTL.EDU and *not*
      /misc/doc/pagemakr. I apologize!

  II) Happy Birthday to the list! We are now 3 years old this January and
      have nearly 400 direct subscribers and a great deal many more
      indirectly through distribution centers and Usenet. Thank you to
      everyone to make this list a success!

 III) The archives on WUARCHIVE now sport a few new additions. Henry
      Budgett's Accounting and Cashbook files are now there for public
      downloading. Thanks Henry! I have added a few more things yet again
      to the FAQs (little tips, typo corrections, and subliminal messages
      as to the superiority of the PC :)

      Plus, the Mac version of the archives will be updated very soon
      to correspond with the PC version.

  IV) Henry Budgett also made this suggestion for handling corrupted
      unrecoverable Pagemaker files (excerpted from the revised FAQ):

+   Finally, one last suggestion comes from Henry Budgett: for those of
+   you who are working on a Macintosh, you can try a program called
+   "CanOpener" -- it's supposed to be good at recovering files from
+   within files. In the old days of version 1 and 2 (on the Mac) there
+   was a program called The Ripper which brough your data back from the
+   dead! (PM crashed a LOT in those days!)

   V) James Dacey who posted to the entire list his desire to subscribe:
      the email address you gave does not exist and my mail reader
      truncates the origin of your message when it comes through the
      list. Do you (or anyone else on the list) have your full e-mail
      address so that we can get you subscribed?


Geof.
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Reply-To:     Amaury Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
From:         Amaury Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
Subject:      Several topics

1: I'd like to thank you all who have replied my desperate message for
   some information on the resolution upgrade laser boards. Also valuable
   was the explanation on some of the technical aspects. I had already
   received some E_Mail from Monte Olsen in which he had told me to be
   aware of the fact the some boards don't provide "true" 600 or 800
   dpi output but only simulate this effect by using a techinique I didn't
   understand very well from his explanation. Sorry Monte. Is the improving
   effect of these "false" 600 dpi boards the same as the famous "Resolution
   Enhancement" provided by the HP series?

2: A couple of years ago there was a list named LASER-L. Does anybody know
   whether or not it is still active? (and where?).


3: At last I got some time to download and read (with great pleasure) the
   complete Pagemaker FAQ and its associated files. I couldn't make out how
   important were the presences of Monte and Jeff Bone to all of us, sub-
   scribers of PAGEMAKR-L. The Scanner tips is a real professional piece,
   very well written and usefull. Congratulations.


4: Finally I found very funny a tiny mistake which was made about my
   nickname which I came across when reading the WHO'S WHO document:
   Yes, I understand my nickname will sound a female nick to an english
   speaking conscience; but it really sounds a male one to a latin ear
   (maybe because you'll probably put the stress in the first syllab
   making it sound like "Maureen", "Mary" or other english female name,
   The correct pronounce stresses the last part of the word: "Mau-ree"
   So, I'm really a guy, not a gal.


   ===============

   Amaury Bentes

   Rio de Janeiro

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Reply-To:     Amaury Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
From:         Amaury Bentes <PUR01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
Subject:      A bit of a tip

Hi, everybody!

  I don't send frequent postings to this list, due in part to the fact
that my english is not very good (I always get mixed up with those damn
english prepositions!!!) and in part because I don't have much time. But
here goes a humble contribution, I don't know if it deserves to be includ
ded into the FAQ tips because it is, in my opinion, completely useless.

  Some companies like to ship their products with a few undocumented
commands. Microsoft, for instance, has a sequence of undocumented  key-
strokes that lead to an "animation show" on the Excel screen showing
its logo beating and defeating the Lotus 123 logo. (that would be
probably prohibited here in Brazil, but it looks funny to me). I've
been told that there is also an unknown keystroke sequence in Windows
3.1 which shows the names of the software developers as well. By the
way, if you know such sequence, please, let me know.

 I like to play with my keyboard keys, trying some weird combinations
to find new things. When I read on the PM FAQ tips document that one
could see a relation of the current filters by pressing CNTRL + about
Pm, I wondered what would happen if I also pressed the SHIFT key.

...and that's how I found this completely undocumented feature of PM.
It brings to an animation show with the names of Aldus Page Maker
developers. Unusefull, but I think those guys, who have provided us
a nice program like this should deserve the kindness of a documented
feature.


 ==============

 Amaury Bentes

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Reply-To:     Richard elGurutm Howland-Bolton <reh1@CORNELL.EDU>
From:         Richard elGurutm Howland-Bolton <reh1@CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Quick tip on switching views...

>To: Felix Sung <fsung@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
>From: reh1@cornell.edu (Richard elGuru(tm) Howland-Bolton)
>Subject: Re: Quick tip on switching views...
>Cc:
>Bcc:
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>
>>                                               . . . in which Aldus
>>said they were releasing the PC version first to alpha test it on PC
>>users because they figured PC users would buy the "That's not a bug,
>>it's a feature" argument.
>
>Of course that implies that we poor Macites have been alpha testing all the
>other releases. I want my money back!!
>
>RH-B
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