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From: kleinbock-dmitry@math.yale.edu (Dmitry Kleinbock)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Moskovskie zametki
Date: 9 Nov 1992 12:27:52 -0500
Organization: Yale University Mathematics Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2155
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In article <1992Nov6.204906.1@acad3.alaska.edu> ftsam@acad3.alaska.edu
(Sergei Maurits) writes:

>In article <1df4ohINN4lq@FERMAT.MATH.YALE.EDU>, kleinbock-dmitry@math.yale.edu
> (Dmitry Kleinbock) writes:
>> 
>>        [the letter deleted]
>>
>> P.P.S. To Patricia: this posting doesn't mean that I, as some of scs
>> readers, dislike the texts you write. Keep posting, it was interesting
>> to find out how life in Moscow can be seen from a point of view of a
>> good-hearted, though a bit self-absorbed, American woman. Would be
>> happy if this letter could help you to widen your outlook. 
>
>   Dmitry, thank you for the post FOA, and secondly why do you think the 
>   letter contradicts to Patricia's impression? I found them pretty much
>   coherent. 
 
   Well, I just meant that the person who wrote the letter wasn't very
hilarious about some features of the post-Sovok life. However I think
that being asked the question "Coming Doom?", which Patricia had spent
so much pathos on, he would give the same negative answer. But there
is some difference between "I can see light at the end of tunnel" and
"Life is going better and better" (luchshe i veselee :-).

>   Serega, AK

   Sincerely, DK




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From: mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: <None>
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:25:57 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton
From: pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Mudlu IS a program! What shall we do?
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:23:38 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I must warn that the article I post includes some rude expressions. 
If you feel that you may be offended, do not read (though to me the
stuff I wrote seems mild enough)...


















My congratulations to Kaplunovsky - not only did his well-argumented
article reveal the true nature of the postings of Mudlu and co., but
the very responce to this article proved that all his guesses about
the artificial stupidity system are absolutely correct. To get even
more confident of the text-search approach of the MUDLO system I post
this article, where neither the name of MUDLO, nor the name of
obS****R ARJ'ICK are not spelled correctly in order to avoid triggering
of the MUDILO system answer.

The question I have to you all netters is: what shall we do with the
bugfuck guys who created the MUDILISTCHE. Certainly, their activity
must be considered as full of disrespect to all the non-automated
users. It is not even a good practical joke - the database they use
obviously shows that the creators neither had sense of humor nor ever
heard of such a sense. I think that Hujdar Hujgic or who(huj)ever
may be sued for slander or for, hmm, network harrasment. Of course, the
killfile option is easier to implement, but they constantly change their
aliases. And what upsets me more, the shitflooders feel themselves 
completely safe! Another option would be to write a very polite letter
to the AT&T with the description of what its employees do during their
working time. Don't know if it works. The third variant would be to come
to obSERA.piZdUMA in persona, smash the machine and kick some shit out
of the owner, but it involves physical violence and may be legally
punishable (mistreatment of animals etc).

Sure the wimp (or wimps) standing behind the MUDLOPIZDILISTCHE deserve
some electroshock therapy or at least a frontal, backal and sideal
lobotomy. But how to deliver the cure to those who need it so much?

Any suggestions?

-- 
Thus spake Kalmoth the Vile, Slayer of the Seven Pigs of the North.
From: mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Hookers taking vouchers?
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:02:58 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <84600057@glas.apc.org>, margaret@glas.apc.org (Patricia Schwartz) writes:
> 
> Rumor currently all over Moscow:
> 
> Prostitutes have begun to accept privatization vouchers in payment
> for their sexual services.
> 
> This is not a joke - I heard it from several different sources.


Several years ago there was a rumor in Moscow about the coming end of the world
(I heard it from several different people; so, maybe it also wasn't a joke???).


Michael.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Hands on Patricia!!!
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:47:43 GMT


  See now, that's hIIIlarious!!!



                                                                    adam
Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:9819 rec.arts.books:19843
From: verbit@cauchy.mit.edu (Mikahil Verbitski)
Subject: Re: Andrei Rublov (film)
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 19:39:50 GMT

 ftsam@acad3.alaska.edu (Sergei Maurits) writes:

>In article <1992Nov7.174915.9575@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>,
> buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E) writes:

>> We saw the Tartovsky film 'Andrei Rublov' last night at CU. Some earlier
>> postings criticized the translations, but perhaps these have been changed.
>> Anyway, Natalia said they were pretty good as these things go.

>> It's a very rewarding movie; I especially enjoyed the final sequence, the
>> casting of a bell. I did not understand the first scene in the film, in
>> which a balloon is launched. Could someone shed some light on this? 
>> Timothy. 

 [ Interesting story by Sergei Maurits about Soviet censorship deleted ]

	The first part of film, which is actually a prologue, has
	a symbolic meaning. It depicts a semi-folklore story
	about Russian monk who invented a zeppelin (circa 1580).

	The story is, at it was later proven, not true. Anyway,
	it was very important for Tarkovsky, who felt that it is
	explaining how Russians could produce a beautiful things
	like Rublev's painting in Dark Ages (which are indeed
	dark, in Tarkovsky interpretation).

	This scene is parallel to Tarkovsky's prologue to
	Zerkalo (Mirror) movie, where a hypnotyzed (misspell)
	youth is cured from stuttering.

	The most interesting of all is that there is a strong
	(and unknown for most people) link with the present.
	The actor who played the flying monk was not an professional `
	actor, but a poet Nikolay Glazkov. He is not well known,
	but in the circle of Tarkovsky's peers Glazkov was
	famous as a grass-root poet who was not broken by
	Stalinist regime (he was writing a poetry bordering
	avant-garde and folklore), but instead could *fly*
	over the bloodstained country and remain its part
	in blood and flesh. For me, this completely clears
	up the episode.

	Misha.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com (Alex Goykhman)
Subject: Re: Reply to S. Borodin (was: Antisemitism and Verbitsky)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:05:42 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <BxBECr.HIu@max.physics.sunysb.edu> gene@max.physics.sunysb.edu (Eugene Tyurin) writes:
...
>1) The scarciest exam (at least at the Physics dept. of MGU) is written
>   mathematics. This gives the maximum amount of failing grades.
>2) Now, applicant proved (after written exam) that he knows something.
>   At an oral exam, examinator has to test both graduates of specialized
>schools and people from "Ust'-Pizduisk" -- so they get different kinds of
>problems. And I think it is reasonable, because specialized school graduates
are noticeable among other students only in the 1st year -- they were taught
the 1st year material at school; after that they get leveled.

    Similar admission policies were practiced in Byelorussia where village 
    boys were given preference over those who lived in the cities. Of course,
    the formers happened to be predominantly Byelorussian...and most of them
    never fully caught up with us urbanites (btw, "urbanites" does not mean
    "Jews", admitting the Jews was against my alma mater's policies:).





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Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: goykhman_a@apollo.hp.com (Alex Goykhman)
Subject: Re: joke
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:18:11 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA

In article <LJawTB1w165w@bwalk.dm.com> mlv@bwalk.dm.com (Marina Vulis) writes:
>How does a Soviet emigre commit suicide?
>Lowers his head & sniffs his armpit.
>---

    Dmitry, is it you again?


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From: viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: tak, treplyus'...
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:50:06 EST

In article <92308.142739VABHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, <VABHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
> Inogda tak i hochetsya chego-nibud' trepanut', v smysle vyaknut'.
> Vot segodnya moj drug reshil pozvonit' svoej zhene, kotoraja, kak voditsya,
> za okeanom, a ta emu i govorit, chto de shizdets nastupil, uhozhu, govorit
> k inomu muzhchine, vot i vse, polnyj de mol nastal kaput. Dazhe ne stol'ko
> v inye ob'yatija ee potyanulo, skol'ko, govorit, prosto pora uhodit', idti
> vo t'mu nevest' kuda.
>      A ya vot ischu-svischu pisaku veseluyu ili cheloveka kakogo neobreme-
> nennogo stuporoznost'yu daby provodit neumestnye besedy i pisat' nekchemnye
> zapiski, no vse nikak ne nahozhu. Poroj vstrechayutsya golubchiki v etoj
> gruppe, da oni cherez chur umny, hotya, zhal', konechno, a to by pobalyakali.
>            Sprashivaetsya chego radi vlezayu v SOVIET CULTURE, koli nikakogo
> interesa netu k evrejskomu voprosu? A potomu i prus', chto evreev mnogo, a
> arbuzov deshevyh tam v Rossii net, a evrei tut i ne pri chem, sami najdut
> sebe temu dlya govoreniya. A posemu davajte, vse vmeste, pocheshem yazyki, a?
> 
>                                                          Ku-ku, priem.
> 

  Mozhet byt' lut'she otpraznuem godovschinu of Great October Revolution, eh ?
Pod'ezjai na ogoniok, popizdim...

  Pope zdelali botinki,
  Na vysokom kabluke,
  Popa khodit po izbe,
  Lupit mamu Popi zdelali botinki
             Na vysokom kabluke,
             Popa khodit po izbe,
             Lupit mamu Popi zdelali botinki
                        Na vysokom kabluke,
                        Popa khodit po izbe,
                        Lupit mamu Popi zdelali botinki
                                   Na vysokom kabluke,
                                   Popa khodit po izbe,
                                   Lupit mamu Popi zdelali botinki
                                              Na vysokom kabluke,
                                              Popa khodit po izbe,
                                              Lupit mamu Popi zdelali botinki
                                                         Na vysokom kabluke,
                                                         Popa khodit po izbe,
                                                         Lupit mamu Popi zdelali botinki
                                                                    Na vysokom kabluke,
                                                                    Popa khodit po izbe,
From: viznyuk@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Reply to S. Borodin (was: Antisemitism and Verbitsky)
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:46:20 EST

In article <1d6vjcINNcp4@rodan.UU.NET>, avg@rodan.UU.NET (Vadim Antonov) writes:
> In article <Bx43wK.42A@news.cso.uiuc.edu> didinsky@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (didinsky garry) writes:
>>  1. Do you think there was anti-semitism in Russia?  And, how did it
>>  expressed itself, if it did exist?
> 
> Antisemitism as well as other ethnical phobies did and do and will
> exist anywhere in the world. Russia is not an exception, though
> the antisemitism never was even remotely as intensive as, say,
> anti-Azerbaijanizm. The best explanation is Vysotsky's "Vy tozhe
> postradavshie, i, znachit, obrusevshie" -- and he was quite close
> to the "russian soul". The system was repressive to anybody --
> Jews and Russians got equal shares. The thing called "state antisemitism"
> never existed, unlike repressions against small Caucasus nations.
> I still continue to wonder how people can be so self-centered
> and never realize that others were sufferning as well and nobody
> cared about hurting them personally.

  You're wasting your time, Vadim. Russia et other x-Soviet
"countries" were, are, and would be "antisemitic" and "rotten" places,
until the standards of living there rise to more or less decent
levels. Never heard a magic word "economy" ?
  I'm amased to see how you, Serega Borodin, and Yuri Mukharsky
were dragged into this endless chewing of the very same food
which was already not once swallowed and digested here on SCS.
As Mr.Verbitsky once put it, the discussions on SCS are going on
circles. My own observations give the period ~9 months.
  In order to help those folks to cope with their obsession
with their origins, I would propose to do the following:
  First, we need to step forward and solemnly and loudly
acknowledge that all Russians are antisemits, that Russia
is antisemitic country, and that the nest of antisemitism
is located at MechMath MGU with branches at Mathematical
Division of Academy of Sciences, and in Comrade Shavarevich's
bathroom. This would save us time for more creative work, and
spare our opponents the efforts to invent horror stories about
MGU entrance exams. 
  Second, we need to express out sincere hopes that neither
of our Jewish friends would suffer significant physical
damage, does the next anti-Jewish pogrom happen not in NYC,
as usual, but at their place[s]. Otherwise their complains
would not be understood: this is not antisemitic country...

Serega & Co
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com (Igor Belchinskiy)
Subject: Re: What are talking about?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:08:41 GMT
Organization: Be. I am.

In <97190@netnews.upenn.edu> burshtey@eniac.seas.upenn.edu writes:

> In article <BxJ2JC.2rw@max.physics.sunysb.edu> LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg) writes:
> >In <1992Nov10.161147.34508@watson.ibm.com> bil@burka..aix.kingston.ibm.com writes:
> >> Really valuable persons accept Visa, MC or Amex. :-)
> >>
> >> 	-igor
> >
> >Really valuable people do not accept AmEx :-)
> >
> >Greg
>                                                                           
> Here is your typical example of a deep intellectual discussion
> in the soc.vulture.soviet.                                                 

I wanna discuss
lemme to discuss
Till the morning in stars
Till the vampire in clouds
Discussion, discussion, lemme to discuss it!

> Need I say anything else?                                                   

Yep. Explain, please, what part of this discussion was deep,
where is intellectual content, what was (or wasn't) coherent to
your sovkism, etc. 

Do you think that knowledge
of credit cards subtleties is outside of modern Russian culture scope?
Are you trying to say that Russia would never grow up to 
accepting monthly MC or Visa bills as contemporary symbolical
equivalent of Overcoat?

> No further comments.                                                      

Only wider, pls.

> Alex Burshteyn                                                            

Let's discuss!

	-igor

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: tampon flame, very sad story
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 07:06:22 GMT
	<1992Nov2.201445.18636@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>

  In article <1992Nov2.201445.18636@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>,
  frants@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Leonid Frants) writes:

>In article <1992Nov2.043641.2615@zooid.guild.org> Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>>  In article <Bwypp4.L30@cs.columbia.edu>,
>>  ratner@cs.columbia.edu (Michael Ratner) writes:
>>
>>>In article <1992Oct29.211615.17408@zooid.guild.org> Adam Lawrence Salter <adam@zooid.guild.org> writes:
>>>>  In article <84600037@glas.apc.org>,
>>>>  Patricia Schwartz <margaret@glas.apc.org> writes:
>>>>>Well, to be honest, I almost actually did, because I
>>>>>happened to be having a miscarriage and did not realize it.
>>>>>
>>>>>I lost two liters of blood.
>>>>>
>>>>>Are you happy, you nice guy out there?
>>>>>
>>>>>m., still very weak but alive, but without baby now
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  Hmm, interesting. Pardon me for interfering and annoying you but I hope you
>>>>won't attempt to have a baby again.
>>>>
>>>>                                                              adam
>>>
>>>This is so outrageous that I can't believe my eyes.  I sincerely hope
>>>that this is some sort of mistake.  A human being just couldn't say
>>>that.  If you meant what you said sir, you are the most disgusting
>>>slime that I ever encountered on Internet.   I cannot even suggest
>>>that you should apologize because a remark like yours is beyond
>>>apology.  
>>>
>>>Patricia, on behalf of all the readers of this group - I am sorry !
>>>
>>>						-- Mike Ratner
>>>-- 
>
>
>>  Settle down now. It was no error and it was not that nasty. It is advice
>>better than the previously offered advice that she should get pregnant, I
>>think. Are you religious?
>>
>
>
>Adam, while I may not like everything Patricia posts here, I am sure
>this world would have been a better place if it was your mother that
>had a miscarriage instead. 
>
>Leonid Frants.
>
>
>

  Hmm. Perhaps. Or an abortion :->.

  You "may" not like "everything" she posts? Come now, that's rather weak.

  
                                                            adam

  Truthfully, you mean to say you don't know?
From: golosov@ruhets.rutgers.edu (Denis Golosov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Jewish Autonomous Oblast
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:08:02 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof) writes:


>I'm looking here at a National Geographic map of the Soviet Union (1990).

>Way over in the east (bounded by China, Amur and Khabarovsk) is the small
>region labeled "Jewish A.O. (Autonomous Oblast)".  I would appreciate it
>if anyway could enlighten me on the history and current status of this
>small area of the Soviet Union.

>Thank!
>Jeff Bytof
>rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu

The Jewish Autonomous region was formed in 1938; at first, the Red government
provided kind of economic, financial and "administrative" stimuli to make the 
Jews move there. But at that time, this campaign was not that comprehensive.
In 1940, many Jews from Baltic region and Western Ukraine moved
(or, probably, were more or less forced to move) to the Jewish A.O.
It is commonly believed (I've heard it from old people, and also
I've read it in a couple of books) that the Doctors' Case was supposed to
be followed by the deportation of Jews from Moscow (and, perhaps, from
some other cities); the Jewish A.O. was to become their destination.
(I've heard, that at the beginning of 1953 even the construction of
barracks for these Jews has been started - both in the Jewish AO and in
Vostryakovo near Moscow; the latter was supposed to become a kind of
transit (peresyl'ny) camp). But, fortunately, on March 5, 1953, Josef
Stalin presented his most valuable gift to the mankind...
   So the relative population of Jews in the Jewish AO remained within ~10%.
   As far as I know, Yiddish (definitely not Hebrew!) is, along with 
Russian, an official language there. They publish (or at least published)
a newspaper ("The way") and a magazine ("The star of Birobidzhan") in 
Yiddish, etc.
                                          Denis Golosov.
From: vadik@cs.umd.edu (Vadim Maslov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: How to map russian character set to a transliterated one ?
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:02:51 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <1992Nov10.150241.28457@watson.ibm.com> oleg@watson.ibm.com (Oleg Vishnepolsky) writes:
>The following is a sample from relcom.humor:
>
>In <AELqX-g4M3@alg.sbor.spb.su>  vnf@alg.sbor.spb.su (Nick Vecher) writes:
>>           dOBRENXKIJ WSEM DENE^EK!
>>  tUT PROSKAKIWALI W relcom.humor WOENNYE SOOBRAVENIQ
>>OB USTROJSTWE LOPATY. mYSLI, WNE WSQKOGO SOMNENIQ, CENNYE
>>I POLEZNYE. ~ESTNO GOWORQ, DO \TOGO MNE ONI BYLI I
>>NEIZWESTNY. nO WOT WOENNO-MORSKIE WOZZRENIQ NA USTROJSTWO
>>LOVKI SUPOWOJ IZWESTNY MNE DOPODLINNO, A IMENNO:
>>        LOVKA SUPOWAQ SOSTOIT IZ TREH ^ASTEJ:
>>             1. HLEBALO;
>>             2. DERVALO;
>>             3. SOEDINITELXNAQ PLANKA.
>
>Does anyone have a complete mapping of the character set used in the above
>article to the transliterated one (used in this group) ?

I have one. Look, how nice it converts the above stuff to beautiful s.c.s 
coding. It was run as "rtol c"

>>           Dobren'kii vsem denechek!
>>  Tut proskakivali v RELCOM.HUMOR voennye soobrazheniya
>>ob ustroistve lopaty. Mysli, vne vsyakogo somneniya, cennye
>>i poleznye. CHestno govorya, do etogo mne oni byli i
>>neizvestny. No vot voenno-morskie vozzreniya na ustroistvo
>>lozhki supovoi izvestny mne dopodlinno, a imenno:
>>        lozhka supovaya sostoit iz treh chastei:
>>             1. hlebalo;
>>             2. derzhalo;
>>             3. soedinitel'naya planka.
>

Here is the text of the program:

#include <stdio.h>

/*
 * Russian (KOI-8) to English (ASCII) translator.
 * Acts as a filter.
 * If started `rtol c' translates KOI-8 with 8th bit cut.
 */

char *rtol[] = {
"yu", "a",  "b", "c",  "d", "e",   "f",  "g",
"h",  "i",  "i", "k",  "l", "m",   "n",  "o",
"p",  "ya", "r", "s",  "t", "u",   "zh", "v",
"'",  "y",  "z", "sh", "e", "sch", "ch", "`"
};

char *RtoL[] = {
"YU", "A",  "B", "C",  "D", "E",   "F",  "G",
"H",  "I",  "I", "K",  "L", "M",   "N",  "O",
"P",  "YA", "R", "S",  "T", "U",   "ZH", "V",
"'",  "Y",  "Z", "SH", "E", "SCH", "CH", "`"
};

main(argc, argv) int argc; char *argv[]; {
  int c;
  int conv = (argc>=1 && argv[1][0]=='c' ? 1 : 0);
  while((c=getchar())!=EOF) {
    if(c>=0x80+'@' && c<=0x80+'_') {
      printf(rtol[c-0x80-'@']);
    } else if(c>=0x80+'`' && c<=0x80+0x7f) {
      printf(RtoL[c-0x80-'`']);
    } else if(conv && c>='@' && c<='_') {
      printf(rtol[c-'@']);
    } else if(conv && c>='`' && c<=0x7f) {
      printf(RtoL[c-'`']);
    } else {
      putchar(c);
    }
  }
}


--
Vadim Maslov.