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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:07:11 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Shirt.gif
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I like all of abh's color suggestions.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 17:31:46 EST
From:         Elaine M Brennan <ELAINE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Don't laugh, but
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Joe P said:
>
>Re: Don't laugh, but
>
>    -abh said:  "What is an ampallang?  Karsten..."
>
>    Elaine said:  "It's a piercing....an exotic piercing. If you want
>      more info, you know where to find me."
>
>    E-layyyiinne, where are you?
>
>    How about about another hint?
>
>    Joe P.(not knowing whether to flinch and say <ouch> at this point.)

I'd flinch (and say <ouch> very loudly) if I were you ...

Elaine
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:35:48 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Round 4
              24 Jan 1993 01:18:17 EST from
              <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>

>My original question wasn't clear - Do you play until *all* the cards are
>exhausted?  Is there another way for a person to be forced out?
>
>-rashmi

  As I understand it, the first player to garner all six categories,
  roll back to the center, and answer a final question (category to be
  determined by consensus of the other players) is the winner.

  I haven't paid close attention to the board, but I think Susan and/or
  Nancy are within sight of the prize in this very round.  I don't know
  how Carolyn plans to get the electronic consensus for final category,
  but she'll be back online in a few hours to explain.

  brad
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:51:43 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      RE: The Rankings
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> I vote 31 points for a pig roast in Edinburg--with the full three days in the

Although I ranked Edinburg fairly low on my original vote, the more I think
about it, the more I realize that it might be a pretty good site -- with
telnet access, of course.  Edinburg... where the swimming is eaassyyy...
fish are jumpin... and the cotton is highhhhh... Edinburg.....
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 11:37:09 EST
From:         blomberg cepeda <ST402747@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: inauguration
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Responds Traven the Political Medicine Maven:

>> I just wish it had been Guido Sarducci instead of Billy Graham.
>
>        Not likely.  Fr. Guido's sister-in-law is the outgoing Surgeon-General.
But you forget that the Padre was himself a California delegate to the National
 Convention, albeit for Jerry Brown, of course.

b.c.
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Graham's Entertainment Question
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:On Fri, 22 Jan 1993, Ruth M. Hanschka wrote:

:> >make idle threats.  Anyway, I've *no idea* where fizzy could get a gif
:> >of a 3" John Thomas to post...
:> >
:> Maybe he's got a waterproof instamatic?  If not, he has/had full Usenet
:> access, didn't he?

:ALL RIGHT, who blabbed!

:-abh

Errr... Anne... 3" means three inches, not three feet...

G
(I suspect the SUVM poster is the only person here who can conveniently
get a photograph of the now infamous 3" John Thomas...)
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 14:44:59 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Shark
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From: Karen Kay <ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU>

> Posted on 22 Jan 1993 at 18:58:48 by Peter Montgomery
> >Some words don't have origins, you know. Like the universe, they are
> >just suddenly there, with a bang or a whimper.
>
> This is bullshit.  I hope this isn't what you teach your students, Peter.
> Karen

Some call it bullshit; some call it ironic tone; some call it
tongue in cheek (but that's a cliche). I might throw out the
odd probe like that from time to time to see who's awake and
what mode their minds are in. Usually I get a laugh from my
students when I do it. Obviously WORDS-L is in a different mode.

In fact, if you look in the OED you will discover that the first
recorded use of 'shark' was in the late 15 hundreds, by a ship's
captain who brought one home with him. No one knows where he got
the word, although it does resemble the Austrian (ie German dialect)
word for 'sturgeon', namely *schirk*. So if the word didn't just
suddenly appear from nowhere, you tell me where it came from.

Peter
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:47:28 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (76
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              at Jan 26, 93 1:48 pm

Blomberg slyly fesses up:
> Incidentally, Graham, wwcem114@sivm belongs to a very nice woman named Peggy
> Noonan, who was lending me her account until I got one of my own. (Kudos to
> Rashmi and Evelyn!)
             ^^^^^^^   Joan

HA!  It was very shrewd of you to post just that one message, leaving behind
hardly any clues.  Yeeaah!  Joan and I now have a 100% track record.

As a words-l icon once said, "women *know* these things".

-rashmi
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From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: signoff
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 15:10:12 GMT

In article <01GTU436RTV6001B2Q@camins.Camosun.BC.CA> Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA> writes:

>Interesting what does and does not get a response from participants.

	Indeed.  Netiquette is a subtle thing to understand, and
varies from electronic community to electronic community.




-- 
Net.Personality for hire.                       Will Post for Food.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:55:46 EST
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question for Torkel
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>>Reference: A book of lectures by Einar Haugen, published 10 or 15
>
>Einar Haugen is a wonderful linguist!  But I thought he was dead.
>
>Karen

If so, that would certainly explain why he didn't answer Trygg's
letter...

love, judith
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:01:46 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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              "ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU" at Jan 27, 93 7:57 am

> Besides, while NC is East Coast, it's hardly a day's drive from Boston/NYC/
> Philadelphia.  I think the East Coast advantage is diminished by going so
> far south.
> Karen

It takes 8-9 hours to drive from Philly to the Outer Banks.  Add another
7-8 hours for those driving from the Boston/Providence region.  I agree
with Joan about NC being too humid in the summer.

-rashmi, who's trying to weasel out of visiting Houston in August
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 08:26:00 PST
From:         CHRIS SCHMIDT <CHRISS%CWU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Bye for now

>Has he gone chopin?  (And didn't we do this on the liszt recently?)
>
>-rashmi

Yeah, I think  you've got a handel on it now. But these things are always fun
so I wouldn't get too straussed about it.

Chris
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:00:16 -0600
From:         Bandwidth Pig <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Ben doesn't know I'm doing this....
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I always had a feeling I would find the perfect child to adopt someday...

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:53:06 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Maya's poem
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On Thu, 21 Jan 1993 BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU wrote:

> while Doris, Entropy, and abh render it identically as
>
> What's going on here?

I copied Entropy's version into the .plan file; that's my excuse.

-abh
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Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:13:14 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: My Birthday is in April

>In case others would like to know, my birthday is approximately April 15.
>Surely Tushar is going to note that in his calendar...

Most certainly. But tell me, why April 15? I mean, is it as if some
advertisement appeared in the papers on April 15? I have often thought
about this April 15 business. The other question which has bugged me
often in the past is, what is a "feist"? I mean, can "half beagle, half
feist" have any meaning at all?

tushar
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Date:         Sun, 24 Jan 1993 01:18:17 EST
From:         Rashmi <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Round 4
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              Harwell" at Jan 23, 93 10:00 pm

> > can go on forever if you wish.)  It's been an age since I last played TP and
> > I've forgotten how it ends.
>
> Murder/suicide, Rashmi. Never fails.

In that case, is it sufficient for one person to be done in?  or does it
go on until everyone succumbs?
My original question wasn't clear - Do you play until *all* the cards are
exhausted?  Is there another way for a person to be forced out?

-rashmi
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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:07:13 -0800
From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
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From: "Ruth M. Hanschka" <ap290@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>

> >> >Speaking of Greeks: What did Zeus say to Narcissus?
> >> Is this another Flowers joke?
> >No, it's genuinely mythological.
> >
> In that case, you have me.  My Greek mythology is a bit rusty....

Q: What did Zeus say to Narcissus?
A: Watch yourself!

Peter
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: WORDS-L TP: Ruth's Entertainment Question
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>>"Who starred in the movie'The War of the Worlds'?"
>
>In other words, you're looking for a miracle.:-)  I'm going to say
>Gregory Peck, for no particular reason....  I know who *read* it on
>radio [Orson Welles] and who wrote it [H.G. Wells, I think - if not him
>Verne, but it reads like Wells] but not who made a movie out of it.
>Has anyone here seen the movie?  I think I did once, but that was
>worlds ago and far away. [maybe we should get a Time Machine and go
>back and find out when?]:)

As Brad said it was Gene Barry.

Carolyn
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:53:00 PST
From:         "Emily J. Horning" <IBJQEJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: An offer you can't refuse

> LAS VEGAS!!!!!

Vegas? In July? You must be joking. Be sure to bring your SPF 1000 sunblock.

A houseboat party, OTOH, would be *fun*....

> -abh

Emily
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In a previous article, samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU () says:

>Keep this revolting kid away from me.
>
Why?  Afraid he'll use your keyboard fetish as the basis for a Great
Garden State Novel?

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Date:         Sat, 23 Jan 1993 12:57:39 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Oops
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I screwed up the message ID.  I'm out of town and using the laptop.
I don't have the canned format on the laptop disk ready to edit and
upload.  I see what I did wrong w/ message id, of course.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Yes
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        >Somehow, I think Words-L just crossed a line we shouldn't have...

        Sort of the line crossed when someone subbed the CHRISTIA list to
        VAMPYRES?

        Evelyn

Wow! - there's an idea I never considered - you can subscribe whole
lists to other lists???  What possibilities!

G
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Testing...
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> In that case it's because you don't have a .login or a .cshrc and are
> getting the raw unix conventions.
> On the other hand, I have this in /etc/csh.login (the global login file):
> stty intr '^c' erase '^?'

Maybe I'll ftp my .login, .cshrc, and .mailrc from ra to pizzabox.  Wonder
what weird things I have in those files that might upset pizzabox.  I sure
would feel bad if I caused pb to explode or something.  I never worry about
causing ra or isis to explode because when I asked FWP when we first got
them (or first got ra) whether I needed to worry about wandering into
restricted areas or messing things up, he told me I didn't know enough to
do any serious damage and that there was nothing I could break that he
couldn't fix.  I've been wandering happily ever since.  For a while it
was my goal to find some place he had failed to set permissions on properly.
Finally I gave up on that.  And that made me feel pretty good.  I like
being on a machine that keeps firm locks on the appropriate doors -- like
on the door to ~maynor.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject: Re:      Re: Inauguration
Originator: rita@eff.org
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:55:42 GMT

In article <9301192052.AA14356@pizzabox.demon.co.uk> G <g@PIZZABOX.DEMON.CO.UK> writes:

>With so many people swooning over this marvellous poem, I wonder if
>I should confidently predict it's going to turn out to be the usual
>sicklingly cloying American mawkish sentimental trash?

	Although I wouldn't consider this poem among her best work, it
does have some marvelous moments.  I'm sorry I didn't get to see her
read, as she is absolutely amazing when she performs her poetry.

Rita

Contemplating force-feeding Graham Anne Sexton and Sylvia Plath until
he says "uncle."




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From:         Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Spring is here
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> >You've been hitting the delete key again, abh.
> >doris
>
> Why, what did she say?
>
> tushar
You've been hitting the delete key again, tushar. ;-)
doris
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:19:59 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Maya's poem

>> "Arizona Repulsive" and the AP version IT had didn't mention Eskimeaux.
>                                                               ^^^^^^^^^
>Esquimeaux, if you are going to use that romanization.

She's lying. It's Esquimaux.

tushar
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Date: 26 Jan 93 00:01:15 GMT

>easily and naturally use the word "American" for their nationality. When
>detail is required, they will specify the US, but no one has problems
>with using and comprehending "American".
>tushar

When I 'went away to college' and people asked me where I was from, I
would reply "New York" -- they'd say, "I know that, but -where- in New
York?" "The Bronx" I'd reply, and comprehension dawned: "Oh," they
realized, "You mean New York -City-!"  (The college in question was 
also in New York State, but we "New Yorkers" really didn't grok that 
concept.)

--bayla
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From:         JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS
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Subject:      Re: Gleanings (76)

JMW, that paragon of virtue and embodiment of all that is fair and good, asked:
>                                                           (BTW, does anyone
>remember what the catch-phrase in "Smokey Stover" was?  I've either forgotten
>it completely, or I'm having a worse than usual case of brain-lock today...)
"Head fer the hills, the dam done bust!"

                Notary Sojac!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It just came to me in traffic driving back from lunch.
The mind is truly a dark forest.

John "I used to know what the M was for...hmmmmmmmmmmmm..." W.
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From:         Bill Merrill <ST401601@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Figures of Speech and Their Names
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>I am posting this in the hopes that some erudite net.people can help
>construct a fuller list, and I am including only a few of the known
>figure-of-speech names in this posting because it is possible that
>someone might point me to an existing list,

I'm not too erudite, Ralph, but there is a good list of rhetorical
and grammatical figures from anaccoluthon to zeugma in _Greek Grammar_
by H.W. Smyth, Cambridge, 1956.

Bill
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From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland
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> One vote from me for Portland. And, Natalie, where's my .gif for Shirt v.1.1?
> -abh

Huh?  I thought you were against the Portland choice.

I have no scanner and thus can make no gifs.  You'll have the necessary gif
data within a week.  If needed sooner, you'll have to use the very low-quality
gif that we've discussed.  Have you tried it to see how bad it is?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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In a previous article, karsten@netcom.com (karsten) says:

>> Anyone for singing 69 Tubes of KY on the Wall?
>
>What are they doing there?  I assumed they were in your Hope Chest.
>
Nahhhh - by the time I get a chance to use the stuff [or need it for
that matter] it will be way past the expiration date on even the hardiest
tube.... Besides, I don't have a hope chest.  Chest yes [44D] but hope?
Gave that up for New Years in 1984....
>
>(And I thought *I* didn't know how to decorate)
>
S'OK, we won't mention your pastel mock leather collection, or the Elvis
shrine in the bathroom....
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: New Attorney General

>Who should Clinton pick as the new Attorney General?
>
>Evelyn

Me.

-K

-Mka
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From:         Peter Montgomery <MONTGOMERY@CAMINS.CAMOSUN.BC.CA>
Subject:      Re: signoff
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From: Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>

>         Indeed.  Netiquette is a subtle thing to understand, and
> varies from electronic community to electronic community.

Not always subtle. Try putting out a quote for scripture, or
challenging certain language usage.

If netiquette (neat neologism) varies from list to list, so does
the lack thereof.

Peter
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:24:12 EST
From:         Tony Harminc <EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Salmonbake bitching
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Posted on 26 Jan 1993 at 16:51:41 by G

>As long as its near one of the airports that do cheap int'l flights,
>like NY, Boston, or... er... that's it.

Toronto ?

Tony H.
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Date:         Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:09:14 CST
From:         Natalie Maynor <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Question for Torkel
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Thanks for the reply!  More later on this subject...  I'm racing through
mail right now...  Miles to go...  No time to stop and watch these woods
fill up with snow...
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:04:45 CST
From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Cloudy skies over Portland

>> Natalie, when you see "Yes", "No" and "NC" in the same email, just
>> what kind of logic do you apply to deduce that "NC" is the same as
>> "No"?
>
>C is more than half of O.

You are the person who put up a most enormous fuss when I erased less
than half of "Bernard". I don't mind it, but I am reminded of it.

tushar
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