HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gwu@nujoizey.tcs.com (George Wu)
Subject: Re: Yosemite in November
Keywords: Yosemite hiking skiing
Organization: Teknekron Communications Systems Inc.
Distribution: ca
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 03:54:02 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.180406.23811@projtech.com>, sanjiv@projtech.com (Sanjiv Gossain) writes:
> I have a friend coming over to the Bay Area in late November
> and we were thinking of going over to Yosemite over the
> long Thanksgiving day weekend. Now as  I have never been
> there before I was hoping that some kind soul out there could
> recommend 
> 	(i) some place to stay (not too expensive - is $35 per night
> 	    in a twin bed room reasonable?). I heard that the
> 	    best place to stay is the Yosemite Lodge?

     I did this last year, somewhat on the spur of the moment.  We
managed to find lodging in Mariposa quite easily.  I'm not sure I
would even bother looking in the park itself; it was very crowded.
I don't recall the cost, as price wasn't an object.  The best place
to stay, IMHO, is the Awahnee Lodge (sp.), but you've got a better
chance of winning Lotto than getting a reservation less than 365 days
in advance of Thanksgiving.  Drop in for a brunch one morning.  If
you're lucky (as we were :-), you'll get a table by the window.  The
windows are huge, panoramic views of Bridal Veil falls in the distance
and grazing deer in the foreground.

> 	(ii) some decent hiking routes (or a book where I can find 
> 	     such info.),

     Drop by any good bookstore or an outdoors store like REI.  There
are several books and maps on Yosemite.  I recommend staying off the
most popular tourist hikes; they were packed.

> 	(iii) alternatives to hiking around there (skiing perhaps ??),

     It's not likely there will be enough snow.  I'm not sure what
else there is to do.  If you're really gung-ho and in shape, maybe
bicycling those hills.  (I do mean really, really gung-ho, and in
Greg Lamond shape.)

> 	(iv) General info. on experiences., weather around then, etc.

     As Eugene already mentioned, carry chains and drive carefully.
When we were there, there were ice patches on the road in the early
mornings (dawn).

     Standard outdoors advice applies: wear layers of clothes.  Last
year it was cold much of the day, with good winds in the valleys
and on ridge tops.  However, hillsides were warm and calm.

							George

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Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
Subject: Re: buying a home that is not up to code
From: wallich@NCD.COM (Kenneth Wallich)
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:04:44 GMT
Distribution: ba
Keywords: santa cruz county

steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse) writes:


>What are the consequences in Santa Cruz county of buying a home that
>has had some work done without a permit?  

The house I own in the mountains had a garage remodeled into a room
that was very much not to code, and can't be made that way (the
ceiling is only 6' 5" high). 

I was told by both the inspectors and appraisers that as long as the
work isn't totally slapshod (and this is close, in some cases), there
won't be a problem, unless, as you mentioned, you later want to get
a permit.

It came through inspection just fine.  The only problem I've had is that
some appraisers won't count it as part of the house (for me, that's an
additional 750 square feet of living space).  Some appraisers will count
it (especially if they are in bed with the financing organization that
wants your business ;-).

So, just keep the county inspectors away from your house, or at least
away from the area that was worked on, and you should be just fine.
Worst case is that they could require you tear out the work, but I've
been told by everyone I've talked to that it is very rare for this to
happen, and it can usually be appealed and eventually overturned
anyway, especially if you weren't the owner when the work was done. 

Hope this helps

Ken Wallich
wallich@ncd.com
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk,ca.general,ba.general
From: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Subject: Re: Yosemite in November
Reply-To: rob@xyzoom.info.com (Rob Lingelbach)
Organization: Altruistic Intentions, Hollywood CA
Distribution: ca
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 21:57:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.155323.20946@nas.nasa.gov> eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya) writes:

>Activities very smoky.

I thought our activities as Californians were tending toward more
healthful (Eugene, what do you mean by this?!).



-- 
Rob Lingelbach KB6CUN | 2660 Hollyridge Dr LA CA 90068 213 464 6266 (voice) 
rob@xyzoom.info.com   | "I care not much for a man's religion whose dog or 
robl@netcom.com       |  cat are not the better for it."  --Abraham Lincoln
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk,ca.general,ba.general
From: sanjiv@projtech.com (Sanjiv Gossain)
Subject: Yosemite in November
Summary: Need recommendations about visiting Yosemite in Nov.
Keywords: Yosemite hiking skiing
Organization: Project Technology, Inc., Berkeley, CA
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:04:06 GMT

I have a friend coming over to the Bay Area in late November
and we were thinking of going over to Yosemite over the
long Thanksgiving day weekend. Now as  I have never been
there before I was hoping that some kind soul out there could
recommend 
	(i) some place to stay (not too expensive - is $35 per night
	    in a twin bed room reasonable?). I heard that the
	    best place to stay is the Yosemite Lodge?
	(ii) some decent hiking routes (or a book where I can find 
	     such info.),
	(iii) alternatives to hiking around there (skiing perhaps ??), 
	(iv) General info. on experiences., weather around then, etc.

Another big question is whether I will have any problem there
given that it will probably be Thurs-Sun of the Thanksgiving weekend.
Will the place be full/empty/?? 

All info. welcome.

Sanjiv Gossain

-- 

	Sanjiv Gossain		|  510-845-1484 
	sgossain@projtech.com	|  510-845-1075 (Fax)
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk,ca.general,ba.general
From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: Yosemite in November
Keywords: Yosemite hiking skiing
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:53:59 GMT

>|> 	(i) some place to stay (not too expensive - is $35 per night
>|> 	    in a twin bed room reasonable?). I heard that the
>|> 	    best place to stay is the Yosemite Lodge?
>
>You can get a "tent cabin" (a tent with beds) for about that much.  The lodge
>is probably twice as much and the hotel may be 4 times as much.  Most people
>camp, with sites going for $10 to $12 per night.

When you rent a tent cabin you get metal cots with tolerable
matresses, and sheets and blankets.  The tents are coated
nylon wall tents.  You get privacy but no windows, and
they're fairly damp inside from condensation.  Tent cabin
users have access to showers down the (often muddy) road.

--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@forel.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: ba.mountain-folk
From: kaufman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: buying a home that is not up to code
Keywords: santa cruz county
Reply-To: kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: ba
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:02:25 GMT

ciotti@wk42.nas.nasa.gov (Robert B. Ciotti) writes:

>In article <wallich.711853484@lupine> wallich@NCD.COM (Kenneth Wallich) writes:
->steve@presto.ig.com (Steve Barnhouse) writes:

->>What are the consequences in Santa Cruz county of buying a home that
->>has had some work done without a permit?  

> A friend that I worked with was actually able to buy a complete house
>that was built without permits (un-knowingly) in the SC Mountains. This 
>was a nice house and somehow slipped through the cracks - only temporarly. 
>He was going to add a bedroom and called the county in to get permits. At 
>*this* point they found out that there were no permits for the house at all. 
>After penalities and all (which they did add in) the bill was about 
>$20,000.00, yup 20 grand! He appealed in court - lost once and went again. 
>Never heard the outcome of the second try since we both moved on to different 
>jobs. Talk about a the *shaft*!

The seller was obligated to inform the buyer that there were no permits
for the house.  The $20,000 can and should be collected from the original
seller.  On the other hand, if the buyer KNEW there were no permits, he
would be up a creek.
-- 
Marc Kaufman (kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU)
From: root@pyramid.pyramid.com (Admin)
Newsgroups: ba.news.stats
Subject: Bay Area Statistics SUMMARY 92/07/29
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:30:29 GMT
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Subject: Weekly USENET Report for Zorch
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Newsgroups: ba.news.stats
Subject: Bay Area Statistics SUMMARY 92/07/22
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:16:29 GMT
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From: rick@rgbsys (Rick Davis)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Double 99 changed
Date: 29 Jul 92 04:00:34 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: RGB Spectrum

They also picked up Mimi Chen from KRQR and spent about three hours
playing "The End of the World as we know it" Saturday afternoon.



-- 
                                              <uunet,usenix>!rgbsys!rick
                    R  G  B  Spectrum         rick@rgb.com
               950 Marina Village Parkway
                   Alameda, California
From: ebm@corvair.almaden.ibm.com (Eli Messinger)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: Where can I hear Bob Larson?
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:21:04 GMT
Organization: Jay Maynard Fan Club

Bill Sheppard...

> Is Bob Larson, the amusing evangelist, on the air in the Bay Area?  I think he
> may be on 770 in Sacramento, but I haven't heard him here.  Is he on, and
> when? Quite an amusing show, especially if you tend not to be a fundy.

Larson is back on KPLA-AM (770 KHz) out of Riverbank, CA.  This is near
Sacramento.  Their signal is pretty easy to pick up anywhere in the Bay Area
during the day.  (At night they drop their power, and you can often pick up
KKOB-AM, Albuquerque, in its place.)

At the beginning of this year KPLA dumped their bartered-time format and went
to newstalk.  Most of the programs that had previously bought time on KPLA
were dumped in favor of locally produced news and talk.  That died a quick
death (with an interim period in which KPLA was using sattelite feed talk
programming), and most of the previous programs have been restored.

Larson is on M-F from 1-3pm.  His program originates out of Denver.

Other programs of interest on KPLA:

	Saturday afternoon (12-4?): Radio Tradio.  Hours and hours of
		people calling up to sell things.  The two women who host
		the show make it surprisingly interesting.

	Sunday afternoon (2-4? 3-5?): "One Man's View of Americanism" with
		John Birch Society member, John Katz.  Paranoia on a par
		with the esteemed Dave Emory.  Excellent bumper music
		selections.
--
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Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: j4jbail@srv.PacBell.COM (Jack Bailey)
Subject: Re: Double 99 changed
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:47:15 GMT

In article <z0mm66#.cyclone@netcom.com> (Bill Sheppard) writes:
>For those of you who may care, 98.9/99.1 has changed from "Classic Rock"
>to "Album Oriented Rock", with distinctive DJ's, including a new morning
>team and M. Dung (yuch) midday.

Perhaps the fact that the station is dead last in the ratings
has something to do with the change.

-- 
J.J.Bailey	j4jbail@srv.pacbell.com
Contractor	510.823.6453
From: jordan@IMSI.COM (Jordan Hayes)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: news move from 11 to 10
Date: 24 Jul 92 13:34:14 GMT
Organization: Investment Management Services Inc., NYC

Henry Mensch <henry@ADS.COM> writes:

	who watches the evening news?  "big events happening overseas,
	but first ... is your pet psychic?  we'll find out ... "

Or the other one (is this ba.peeve ;-?) "Berlin wall comes down; for
the East Bay angle, we go live now to Richmond and a woman who was
actually at the wall some years ago ..."

/jordan

ps: my pet is psychic ...
From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (tuu)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: KQED apparently *HAS ALREADY* taken one of KTEH's programs
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:18:30 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


        I guess KQED really is using their "power" to get the shows that
KTEH has cool-ly shown for years..

        KQED starts Red Dwarf in the middle of August sometime.  I'm glad
because of the better reception of KQED (I may actually succeed in getting
a whole tape of them full before I forget an episode), but they're still
being big bullies.
-- 
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Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: ergo@netcom.com (Isaac Rabinovitch)
Subject: Re: radio to listen to in bay area
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 16:27:12 GMT
Organization: UESPA
Distribution: ba

In <1992Jul19.053109.4109@pony.Ingres.COM> jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger) writes:

>(about his favorite radio shows, mostly talking head/spoken word
stuff on KQED-FM)

If you like that stuff, check out KALW, 91.7 FM.  That's *all* they
do, and they have a mind-boggling variety.  *And* their announcers are
much less irritating than Brand Q's (albeit somewhat clumsy at times).

KALW can be a pain to get in the south bay, 'cause KKUP is on almost
the same frequency.  But it's worth the trouble.  If you don't live in
Los Gatos (or some other place with a hill that blocks KKUP's signal),
try:  fiddling with your anntena (you'll need one of those little
dipole thingees at the very least); connecting to an outdoor antenna
(TV ant. works fine); turning off auto-stereo.  If you have a digital
receiver, try setting it to 91.8.  They're on cable in some areas --
ask your cable company for the frequency and for a signal splitter.
-- 

	ergo@netcom.com 			Isaac Rabinovitch
        {apple,amdahl,claris}!netcom!ergo	Santa Cruz, CA
	
	You will be assimilated.  Resistance is futile.
From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
Subject: Re: news move from 11 to 10
Date: 26 Jul 92 23:02:05 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: QueerNet

In article <1992Jul23.193108.22517@pony.Ingres.COM> bonobo@Ingres.COM (David Victor) writes:
>One thing that I can't stand on KRON is that they have this major talent in
>Gary Radnich, yet they squeeze him on the very last few seconds of the news.
>He's always racing through things, without much time for his commentary, which
>I usually find interesting.  At least on KPIX, they give their sports guy a
>good portion of time to get a little more in-depth.

...So five minutes of sports out of twenty-two minutes of news seems
appropriate to you, eh?  Sports is a quarter of what's important in
the world?

Hmmmph.

Newscast time is too precious to waste on anything more than a score
crawl.
-- 
ROGER B.A. KLORESE                                              +1 415 ALL-ARFF
rogerk@unpc.QueerNet.ORG                 {ames,decwrl,pyramid}!mips!unpc!rogerk
"Normal is not something to aspire to, it's something to get away from."
                                                                   -- J. Foster
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Subject: Re: KQED apparently *HAS ALREADY* taken one of KTEH's programs
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 18:04:15 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez
Distribution: ca

In article <Bs06tD.IsM@well.sf.ca.us> owl@well.sf.ca.us (Eric L. Dauster) writes:
>
>KQED has promised not to block any programs that KTEH currently airs. Red
>Dwarf will stay on KTEH as long as KTEH wants to have it.
>
>KQED is being made out as the bullie here. KTEH would exercise the same
>right of first refusal if the tables were turned, I assure you. I've worked
>at both stations (and currently work at KQED).

No doubt.  Nevertheless, why should *either* station have any
prerogatives over the other?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Babbage's Birthday Bargain Bash -- December 26th, 1992
Newsgroups: ba.broadcast
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: news move from 11 to 10
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:08:33 GMT

mcclell@convex.com (Alan McClellan) wrote: 
->Now that the major network affiliates have switched
->from 11:00 to 10:00 news, who is the winner?

who watches the evening news?  "big events happening overseas, but
first ... is your pet psychic?  we'll find out ... "

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
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