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From:         "kmorgan@wheatnma" <KMORGAN@WHEATNMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Cultural Bias or Cultural Diversity?

Here goes a real flame-elicitor:

        Speaking of tests with cultural bias--seems to me that if
folks applying for programs in this country, where the Ivory Tower
set is dominated by white middle class (or higher) men who speak
American English and eat at McDonald's occassionally, then those
folks OUGHT to learn the "language" that they are going to HAVE to
know to make it through the current academic system.  It's just
another language, like Esperanto, or Espanol, or assembly language,
fer cryin' out loud.  To live in South Central LA, you need to know
a particular language.  To navigate the New York mass transit
system, you need to know another.  And to get through academia, you
need to know a third.
        'Course, once you're there, you have the power to make the
changes from within to help those that are still on the outside get
inside.
        Ok, folks--I'm sittin' here with the first aid kit, waiting
for the rips and tears.
        --Kathy
        kmorgan@wheatnma.bitnet
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Subject: re: manic depression

Monika, I'm not sure what you are getting at here.

I have read a lot of Oliver Sacks.  It seems to me
that you are somewhat annoyed with what I had to say.

Jennifer in D.C>
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From:         "D.M. Lovell" <psd23@SEQ1.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject:      INTRODUCTION
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  Hi! I'm Debbie Lovell, and I'm studying for a PhD in Psychology at Keele
University, in England. I have just completed my first year, but have
only just heard of Psycgrad.
   I am studying cognitive factors and values associated with anorexia
and bulimia nervosa. I'm having difficulty recruiting enough patients
and recovered patients to participate. I'm also finding it hard to
settle back into work as I have just spent a month in El Salvador,
working at an orphanage for some of that time.
   I'd love to hear any comments, especially thoughts about eating
disorders. How prevalent are anorexia and bulimia in the States at the moment?
   Look forward to getting to know you,
     Debbie.
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Thanks for clarifying that, Monika!  Don't worry--I
don't think anyone's offended, and now that you've
brought up The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat, I
think I'm going to go read it again, because it's a
really interesting book.  If anyone hasn't read it,
read it when you get a chance!
Jennifer at USC
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Debbie at Keele (and all interested others),

For an excellent quick and dirty review of eating disorders, I suggest:
Jones, B., Duncan, C., Brouwers, P., & Mirsky, A. (1991).  Cognition
in Eating Disorders, 13(5), 711-728.  Journal of Clinical and Experimental
Neuropsychology.

(I forgot to mention, this was done at NIH (the U.S. National Institutes
of Health), and deals mainly with American populations)

Kenn in College Park
(Where I'm putting on my running shoes to take in all the sites at APA)
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From:         Gerri Oppedisano <gerri@WATSON.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Esperanto
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Please excuse my ignorance.. What's Esperanto anyway??

gerri
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Monika--
Which Jennifer were you writing to?  I read your message
and was about to say thanks for reminding me about that
story in The Man Who Mistook His Wife For A Hat--I had
read it a long time ago and forgotten it.  But now I
just read Jennifer in DC's answer to your post, and now
I'm confused.  Oh, why did all the parents in the 60's have
to go and name their kids Jennifer?
Jennifer at USC
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From:         Colombia Hernandez <CIDEIM@UJCCOL.BITNET>
Subject:      Children's Death Notion

Dear colleagues:
I am a Psychoanalyst psychologist from Universidad del Valle,
Cali, Colombia. My area of interest is with children. At the
moment I am carrying out a research about children's death
notion (NOCION DE MUERTE EN NINOS).
I have experience working with very sick children (Cancer,
Leukemia, Lynphoma). I have explored their beliefs, fears
and feelings about death. I want to compare the results that
I have gotten with those that other authors have gotten about
the same topic but without any success, basically because I
could not find any references in the scientific literature
with relation to this topic (Children's death notion).
I am interested to get in touch with Psychoanalysts and
Psycologysts that have experience in this field and I
would like to know any references related to the field of my
interst such as: Different psychological aspects of children
facing death ,  corporal deffects or disease; Psychological
aspects of pediatric patients facing death.

Thank you very much for your attention.

Please send your replies to "cideim@ujccol.bitnet"
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From:         Julie Marie Williams <jmw1@ST-ANDREWS.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Cultural Bias or Cultural Diversity?

Kathy-
That's all very well, but how many of us English- speakers would bother to
learn the native language of a non-English speaking country we went to study
in?  Whenever I've been abroad I've ALWAYS found that I can get by with very
minimal language skills, simply because the way of the world is that everyone
pampers to English-speakers.  The whole system perhaps needs a good shake- up
so that we could actually be competent in foreign languages when we go abroad.
Maybe Esperanto's not such a bad idea after all- it could rightfully take the
place of English, which seems to be the "universal language" at the moment!!

Julie
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From:         Julie Marie Williams <jmw1@ST-ANDREWS.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Psychometrics

I'm distressed to hear that "being friends with a professor" can be used as a
route to better grades.  Surely there are enough problems with exams (as we've
already discussed) without the fact that they may not be marked objectively?
This is a disgrace!
And I agree-aren't the papers supposed to be marked anonymously?

Julie
St Andrews
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From:         NANCY BRITON <BRITON@NUHUB.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: manic depression

I think many people stop psychotropic drugs because they can make them
feel less alert, less alive, sleepy, and "dopey."

If they have thought disorders they might question the efficacy of
taking pills.  I worked with one person who totally absorbed the
rhetoric about "just say no to drugs."  He didn't see the difference
between crack cocaine and Haldol.  And if the person has paranoid
feelings they might not like someone telling them what to do and
trying to control them with drugs.

nance
at northeastern
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Dan, it's a labrys.   Ellen


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Subject:      RE: GRE etc
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Hi! I am quite new to this dialogue and PSYCGRAD and someone may have
already discussed this angle but...what about those students who cheated
their ways through undergraduate courses? What does that do to the
predictions of success in grad school? Is it possible to cheat on the
GRE? (I have yet to take it, oh the math!)
Linda
Go Raiders!
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From:         Monika Trzcinska <054470@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject:      lithium...

I just dug out an article from my files at home.  It suggests that the reason
why lithium is effective in alleviating both mania and depression is that
unlike most drugs, it bypasses the usual route of affecting a neurotransmitter
receptor first, and goes directly into the second messenger system.  Depending
on the activity of the system it either acts as an inhibitor, or as a
stimulant...(in psychopharmacological language as an antagonist or as an
agonist).  As Jay Baraban of Johns Hopkins puts it: "It is like a traffic
cop who makes sure you're not going too fast or too slow."


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From:         NANCY BRITON <BRITON@NUHUB.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: cheating

MG,
I've heard of fraternity boys (I assume that is the "greek system" - my
Greek friend is not happy that fraternity boys call themselves "Greeks,"
so I try not to) who keep all old papers and exams on file, and use them to
cheat.

I tutored an athlete (football) who would come to sessions without having
read the material or gone to lecture, but with a copy of someone's lecture
notes, and a copy of the next quiz! (not even last year's, this years!).
But he obviously didn't study, and even with all this "help," he got a D
in the course.

I doubt that a student can cheat his way through all of college and get
good grades.  Does anyone know of someone who has done that?  If they can,
maybe they could cheat through grad school, too.  (just kidding, I know the
systems are different...)

nancy at northeastern
a gray rainy day in Boston
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Julie, Being the poor starving student that I am I started exploring ways
to supplement my financial needs. I was given information about "FEDIX"
on INTERNET and I have it quite interesting and encouraging to know that
there are possibilities out there!
The address on INTERNET is: "TELNET FEDIX.FIE.COM" the login is "FEDIX".
I hope this helps!!!
Linda
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From: amead@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Alan Mead)
Subject: Re: GRE debate
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Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 06:16:23 GMT

Julie Marie Williams <jmw1@ST-ANDREWS.AC.UK> writes:

>Also, on the subject of personal interviews: if it is not fair to base grad.
>school admission a on performance in a period of 3 hours (for the GREs) then is
>it fair to base it on an interview which lasts a lot less time than this?  What
>about the people who do not perform well in one-to-one situations like this?

I think testing proponents would argue that they have a lot more and a lot
better data in those three hours than the interviewer(s) do.  Also, their
data have generally been shown to be more reliable.  Also, our clinical
division does, I believe, use interviews as a part of the screening on the
grounds that you raise.  You don't want to admit someone that you can never
trust to work with clients.  (NOte that I am not in clinical nor am I privy
to their selection procedures, this is my opinion.)

>For what it's worth, my view is that exams of any sort are not really good
>measures of peoples' performance.  But what alternatives do we have?  Assessed
>coursework (which, by the way, is used far more widely in N. America than it is
> over here) is still open to unfair assessment, as we all know.  But this is not
>an ideal world, as we all know, so the systems we use are just meant to be the
>best of a bad bunch.  Does anyone have any better alternatives?

I think that converging sources is a good alternative to using any one
failble measure.  So GREs are not the sole critea anywhere that I know
of.  GPA is a big factor, it just doesn't explain a lot of variance
(at "good" schools) because it has such low variance.

Let me pose this:  Would you object to weighting students' GPA "scores"
on the basis of some rating of their schools' "goodness" or
"competitiveness"?

-alan
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From:         "D.M. Lovell" <psd23@SEQ1.KEELE.AC.UK>
Subject:      EATING DISORDERS
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  Hi, it's Debbie again. Many thanks to those of you who responded to my
message. (Mind you, I'm having problems with the e-mail system, and
can't delete any messages I receive, so now have well over a hundred
read in every time I try to check my mail!)
  Although I said that I was finding it difficult to recruit people with
anorexia and bulimia for my study, I do believe that there are a lot of
these people around. It's just finding them that's a problem, as the
disorders are surrounded in secrecy and shame. The psychiatrists etc
I've been in touch with have been rather reluctant about telling their
patients about my research. But the patients I have worked with have
been pleased to help and even found the study enjoyable or helpful to
them.
   I agree with Linda that media pressure to be thin plays a big part in
these conditions (they are not very prevalent in countries where this
pressure doesn't exist). But there are always a lot of other factors
involved too, eg. low self-esteem, feelings of lack of control, etc.
   On the topic of where males fit in - it has been interesting that
when I have tested male students to compare with my group of 'female
controls', I've found several males who do want to put on weight. One
did ask me if there was a condition the reverse of anorexia, because he
always feels inferior because he thinks he is too thin, and he wants to
gain weight. I wonder if this is an example of 'bigamerxia', Michael?
    Bye,
      Debbie
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My dad was a diagnosed manic depressive, and he said he stopped
taking the medication because it didn't just "stop" the mood swings--
it dampened all feelings.  I seem to recall Mark Vonnegut saying
something similar in The Eden Express.
--Kathy
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From:         Julie Marie Williams <jmw1@ST-ANDREWS.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Cultural Bias or Cultural Diversity?

That's my point exactly, Kathy-the universal language of academia is English.
But WHY should this be so even in countries where this is not their first
language?  Why should WE be able to go to other countries and not bother to
learn the language in which people there have done their research in?-Why
 shouldthey have to translate it all for us thickos so we can understand it??

Julie
St Andrews
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From:         "David M. Fresco" <FRESCO@UNC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: spss list

If NCSUVM is at NC State in Raleigh a mere ten miles from the SAS Inst
in Cary, NC. then I bet that an SPSS list is just short of blasphemy.  I
think that I know how to check. I'll let you know if I find anything out
David Fresco
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From:         "Philip Richins, Continuing Education, CWU,
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Subject:      Re: I beg to differ

To have a test with zero cultural bias would require a test with zero language.
Languagebeing, as my old Sociology 101 text said, the mirror and shaper of
culture.  Even use of Esperanto would be imposing a cultural image, which I am
sure that Stephanie understands.  I saw her comment as a finger pointing to the
challenge of culture.  I am conserned beyond culturally biased tests to the
question of culturally biased research.  The emperical method (OH NO NOT AGAIN!)
has its base in Western philosophical thought and European language and world
view.  I beleive that we should be taking the same care and caution in our
research as we wish the testers would take with us.

Philip
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Is anyone out there doing research (or happen to know a lot) on manic
depression?

The reason I ask is I've been close to a few people who have one family
member who is manic depressive, and the case always is that they get
better on medication but inevitably at some point they decide to stop
taking their medication and slip into a manic (or depressed) phase. What
I (and the ones related to these people) wonder is _why_ do they stop taking
their medication? Is it a physical thing (i.e.they become immune to the meds)
or is it a psychological thing (i.e.they are discouraged by the fact that
they will never be cured)?? Does anyone know or have any info for me? This
phenomenon is terribly upsetting to those people related to the manic-depessive
person.

Thanks a lot for any info..
gerri
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Thanks in advance for your opinion.

Juan Mario Micolta
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Subject:      Re: Subject headings

I would ask as well that the subject line be accurate viz cute. Thanx
Phil
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