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From: fgn@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (frank.g.neves)
Subject: Re: "Pluck the Magic Twanger, Froggie"
Summary: Andy Devine
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:42:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.223510.24248@oracle.us.oracle.com>, gjackson@us.oracle.com (Gregg Jackson) writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.105046.28664@cbfsb.cb.att.com> fgn@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (frank.g.neves) writes:
> >In article <92202.094254BROSE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>, BROSE@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU writes:
> >> Does anyone out there remember the show that featured
> >> "the Frog" and the cat "Midnight" - a feature called Tim Tyler's Luck
> >> "Spider Web" was also featured.  I would like to
> >> know the name of the show if you can help.  It was
> >> televised in the early 50's (maybe late 40's).
> >> 
> >> BRose
> >
> >I don't know if anyone's responded yet, but the show was "Andy's Gang", and
> >starred Andy Devine.  Other features in the show included the serial, "Ramar
> >of the Jungle".
> >
> >Froggy's famous saying, "Hiya kids, hiya, hiya, hiya!"
> >
> >Frank
> >-- 
> I remember Andy's Gang too. The sponsor was Buster Brown Shoes - "I'm Buster
> Brown, I live in a shoe. Here's my dog Tige(sp?), he lives there too."
> 
> Andy Devine also played Wild Bill Hickcock's sidekick in a show called, I
> think, "Wild Bill Hickcock", where his line was "Hey Wild Bill, wait for 
> me."
> 
> Gregg W. Jackson, Oracle Corporation 
> 
That's correct...his character's name was Jingles.  Those were the days!

Frank
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From: dhua@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Hua)
Subject: XXV Olympiad Opening Ceremonies
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 19:31:12 GMT


	What did you all think of the opening ceremonies and the
coverage by NBC?  I myself thought Costas talked way too much at
the beginning, when he was talking mainly about Spain's history.
The whole thing was also pretty long, an extended 4 hours here in
L.A. with a few news updates in between.
	The mythic show was somewhat impressive.  The six opera
singers were also somewhat impressive.  The archer was, to me, the
highlight of the show.  What if he had missed the torch?  I also
noticed that Magic Johnson got soooo much coverage by NBC.  I like
Magic, but what about the other Olympians?

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From: rocko@ireland
Subject: Re: G/L Character SHIT !!!! 
Reply-To: Rocko 
Organization: 8-Track Museum of Technology
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:48:34 GMT


Hey all you gay guys and gals,

We need to talk. Do I really have to take the time to delete these specialized

articles making reference to gay characters (not to mention gay 

rights/events/crap) I have had it with this g/l character junk! 

This is rec.art.tv!  



Stop !  I can see you now as you reach for your mauve scratch pad from under

it's scratch pad cozie, to take notes for your "Flame the Flame Flamer" post.



This is not nessecary.  I wouldn't care if it was WASP's that wanted to endlessly

recall power tools used by 60's tv characters; if they posted 69 out of 100

articles to a very general group I'd be addressing "WASP power tool crap!"

you need your own news.group

might i suggest : rec.tv.gay.characters.do.you.remember.list.compiling.for
		  .god.knows.why.but.we.NEED.to.document.this.for.some.reason.
                  so.please.post.to.this.new.group.so.we.can.have.a.list.of.
                  all.the.gay.les.tv.characters.that.anyone.has.ever.seen......


"GET A GRIP or GET A GROUP"

love and kisses

	Rocko

From: hares@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Steve Hares)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:15:35 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Olympic coverage etc..
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv


> And on a lighter note, I nominate table tennis as the worst olympic sport,
> over synchronised swimming.  What are the sports you despise?

I have no problem with table tennis, but I despise basketball (does anyone else
hope the American team gets creamed by Angola ?), boxing and tennis.  It's not
the sport so much as the incessant coverage they get.  Like I don't get the
chance to see basketball or tennis on TV every weekend during their respective
seasons.  Sheesh !!



Steve

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From: mr@rat.cica.indiana.edu (Michael Regoli)
Subject: Re: John Tesh's Gymnastics Coverage: Insipid
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:09:11 GMT

Wow!  I've been waiting for someone to bring this Tesh thing up.
I was afaid to start something, but I'm glad that it's now made public.

My main complaint is about John Tesh's QUALIFICATIONS as a gymnastics
commentator.  I guess serving as the lovable goof side-anchor to a
Hollywood gossip show ("Entertainment Tonite") makes him qualified?  I'd
rather see [hear] Dan Dierdorf call the shots (as he's probably *as*
qualified as Tesh) than to listen to Tesh's cliches and platitudes.

At least NBC has spared us--I notice that these commentators get ZERO
camera time. 

Thankfully.

And, you had to love the female springboard diving commentator last
nite:  "That dive was absolutely perfect!  He went *RIGHT* in the
water!" 

No shit.  Did you want to see him springboard out to the parking lot?

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From: jblackwo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J P Blackwood)
Subject: Re: Mork from Milwaukee?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:23:27 GMT



However, ther were no plans to make a Mork series at that time.


-J.P.
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From: jgreen@modcomp.uucp (Joe Green)
Subject: Re: Kolchak episode guide?
Organization: MODCOMP, an AEG company
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:07:53 GMT

lsmith@cs.umn.edu (Lance "Not Here" Smith) writes:
>"The Night Strangler" came before the series and after the original movie.
>I don't recall any of the regulars of the series being involved with 
>"Strangler". (It's possible the editor was the same.)

Yes, Vincenzo (Simon Oakland?) was in "The Night Strangler".  Probably
the only one who'll put up with Kolchak :-).

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From: tosca@csadfa.cs.adfa.oz.au (Crispin Russell)
Subject: Re: Olympic coverage in Australia
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy, Canberra, Australia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 01:35:08 GMT

From article <1992Jul15.030105.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, by rswiftrw@cc.curtin.edu.au (Rod Swift):
> In article <malcolm.711133394@portia>, malcolm@portia.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Hugh Malcolm) writes

(** Lots deleted ***)
> 
> Or how about the classic line asked by most "pseudo-journos" to all gold
> medallists...
> 
> 		"How do you feel?"
> 
> What a bloody stupid question! :v>
> 
> Rod
> -- 

I get the same feeling when the sobbing mother of a kidnapped child appears
outside her home and some idiot journalist sticks a microphone in her mouth
and says:
	"how do you feel at a time like this?"
or worse
	"and what would you like to say to the kidnappers if you could talk
	to them right now...?"

Tosca

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From: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Gayspace (was Re: Do You
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:20:00 GMT
Reply-To: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco)
Organization: SataLink Info Systems - Huntingdon Valley, PA - 215-364-3324

A >Last night I had dinner at my (West Hollywood) neighborhood
A >hangout.  It's a large, noisy, cruisy, gay Mexican restaurant
A >whose food is mediocre, but whose margaritas are *faaabulous*. 

A >Is there some
A >connection -- I feel there must be -- between my puzzlement over,
A >and irritation at, these 4 straight women and their reaction to
A >gay men being themselves in gayspace, and the ways in which gay
A >characters appear in TV programs?

Adolphson, first let me compliment your writing style.  Enjoyably 
humorous, not to mention the lack of spelling and grammatical errors 
(a rarity in this venue), while being coherent and informative.  
OK, so, now to your question: to begin with, I'm surprised that you 
describe your reaction to the women as "irritated".  The way I read 
it, you were puzzled and entertained.  Maybe I missed something.  
Is there a connection between you puzzlement and the portrayal of 
Gays on TV?  I'm sure there is.  Now that Hollywood feels pretty 
sure it won't cost sponsors, they're gonna exploit this "new" plot 
device for all it's worth.    I'm sure they see an opportunity to 
present the average viewer with the chance to "satisfy their 
curiosity", never mind about accuracy.  Since when has accuracy 
ever had anything to do with TV, anyway?
However, I'm curious:  how do *YOU* see gays portrayed?  I mean, 
how would you describe the portrayals?  Are there any accurate, 
partially accurate, or somewhat accurate ones?  Are there any that 
both Gays and Straights would find humorous without being offensive? 
Would you be surprised to learn that even I (a "straight" guy - 
whatever that is!) find some portrayals offensive.  If you saw them, 
what is your opinion of Billy Crystal's character, Jody, on "Soap"?  
Or the character, Miles, on "Anything But Love" - does the network 
offend the gay community  (or successfully avoid offending it) 
simply by avoiding any reference to Miles' sexual preference? 
(we're assuming, of course that the character is, indeed, gay.  I 
realize a case could be made to the contrary.  
Finally, are these questions offensive in any way?  If so, please 
feel free to excercise your right to ignore them completely.
Thanx for listening and thanx, again, for the post.
L8r.


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From: dxs@Unify.Com (Dale R. Shaver)
Subject: Re: XXV Olympiad Opening Ceremonies
Organization: unify
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 21:26:25 GMT

In article <cchapman.93.712269911@matd.gatech.edu> cchapman@matd.gatech.edu (Charles H. Chapman) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.042031.16060@cs.tulane.edu> toten@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (Derek Toten) writes:
>.From: toten@bourbon.ee.tulane.edu (Derek Toten)
>.Subject: Re: XXV Olympiad Opening Ceremonies
>.Date: 27 Jul 92 04:20:31 GMT
>
>.In article <1992Jul26.233449.453@u.washington.edu> bunky@milton.u.
>washington.edu (Mike) writes:
>..In article <1992Jul26.193112.10136@muddcs.
>claremont.edu> dhua@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Hua) writes:
>...
>...      The mythic show was somewhat impressive.  The six opera
>...singers were also somewhat impressive.  The archer was, to me, the
>...highlight of the show.  What if he had missed the torch?  I also
>..
>..
>..With the huge audience I don't think they would risk the torch not 
>..lighting. I suspect the torch was set up to automatically light as
>..the arrow passed over it, flaming or not. 
>..
>.        Actually, considering the ceremony and mystique that surrounds the
>.Olympic flame, I sincerely doubt there was any clandestine skullduggeryBi
>.involved in lighting the torch.  The flame is lit in Greece and carefullyA
>.transported to the host site (several "backup flames" are kept in reserve,
>.also).  It would be an ENOURMOUS embarassment for Spain if it were ever
>.discovered that the flame presiding over Olympia (as the site is called for 
>the
>.duration of the Games) was NOT the actual Olympic Flame.  And considering
>.the sort of apparatus that would be required to ignite the flame remotely,
>.I doubt if could have been installed in secret (SOMEONE would know).

I read, in one of the in-flight mags on a plane, that if the archer
missed, the gas company would throw a switch and light the flame.

So much for tradition....

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From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Subject: LAW AND ORDER 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:39:53 GMT
Distribution: na 



Recently, one of my favorite shows, LAW AND ORDER, disappeared from
its normal timeslot on Tuesday nights at 9:00PM and I have not been
able to find it.  Did it get taken off the air or did it just move
to another timeslot?  Anyone in the Southern California area who 
might know of its whereabouts, please post or e-mail me at
kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu.

Thanks -- Kris

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From: pjb4288@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Pete - Toonatic - Boulay)
Subject: Leno on 7/24/92
Originator: pjb4288@ultb
Keywords: Howard Stern, idiot
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 22:50:12 GMT

Did anyone see Leno last night (Friday Night)???

Does anyone agree that Howard Stern got out of hand by mauling Lyle Lovett
for about half of the show???

I saw absolutely no humor in it except for what the other guest was saying
(woman from "In the Heat of the Night")

I'm sorry...this was a lame one. Forget Howard, Jay... 


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From: acw@sbmsg1.UUCP (Alvin White)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: rec.arts.tv.60's-70's.nos
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:47:18 GMT
Reply-To: acw@sbmsg1.UUCP (Alvin White)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Southern Bell - MSG  Atlanta, Ga

>> KN>"Lost in space":Didn't the saucer the Robinsons fly around
>> KN> in have a name?
>> 
>> Yes. <G>
>> 
>That's cruel, Vince.  Some people lose sleep over stuff like this.  The
>Robinsons' ship was the "Jupiter II".
>
                                                  
Wasn't that the "Jupiter Also"?
From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Linda Hamilton
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:18:02 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

Anyone out there have any gifs or sound bites of Linda Hamilton?
Please e-mail.
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From: sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Leno's political humor
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:04:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul25.190435.19609
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <eq6fgvs@Unify.Com> barb@ufycorp.Unify.Com (Barbara Kane) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.191058.28540@ichips.intel.com> jreece@sousa.intel.com writes:
>>Is it my imagination, or is the political content of Leno's 
>>Tonight show monologue a lot higher than either his or Johnny's used to be?  
>>The current formula seems to be:
>>
>>       60%  jokes about Bush & Quayle
>>       30%  jokes about Clinton, Gore, Brown, & Ted Kennedy 
>>       10%  jokes about other celebrities & general American culture 
>>
>
>This could be the fact that we are coming close to a major election?
>
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There is FAR less political humor going around now than there was
a few decades ago, and Leno is one of the few major comics who
includes political humor on a regular basis (please don't mention
the rather stiff efforts of Mark Russell).  Jay seems to be putting
more political humor into his monologues lately.  It could be
because of both the impending elections and the fact that
his political jokes almost always get the biggest laughs.

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Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 08:46:07 -0400 
From: "Carol A. Buckner" <cb30+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: ROBOTECH

Anybody out there remember this cartoon?  I used to watch it with my
brother when we were younger.  It always reminded us of a cartoon
version of Battle Star Galactica because a whole civilization saved
itself by taking off from their doomed home planet in search of a new
place to live.  I don't remember who the nemesis was that chased the
robotech gang???  We haven't gotten it here in Pittsburgh for a good
while.  Does it still come on anywhere?  Just curious.
 
Carol Buckner
Carnegie Mellon University 
            
Trivia is so unimportant, but if we had none what would we talk about?

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From: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Morrow's deadline is
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:46:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SataLink Info Systems - Huntingdon Valley, PA - 215-364-3324
Reply-To: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco) 

SR>>with that delightful kid from the Encyclopedia Britannica 
SR>commercials.
SR>GHOD, I HATE THAT KID!!! I can't believe he got paid for that 
SR>commercial!! Do you think his daddy owns Encyclopedia Brittanica??

I sorta thought he looks and even sounds like Stan Freburg, the other 
voice in that commercial.  Anybody remember the records he used to do 
in the '50's and '60's?  Well, he's been doing commercials for years 
and it's definitely him talking to the kid.  Whattya think?


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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: Bosom Buddies
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 01:44:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.150253.18887@walter.bellcore.com> rspw@backyard.bellcore.com (Bob Warznak) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.111521.10459@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
>|> tbromley.bbs@cybernet.cse.fau.edu writes:
>|>  >I've been watching some of the reruns on USA this summer, and am 
>|>  >wondering why they replaced the cover versions on Billy Joel's My Life 
>|>  >with a wretched new generic sitcom theme song.  Probably to save a few 
>|>  >bucks in royalties, I guess.
>|> 
>|> Ugh... That was an OUTRAGE!!  
>|> 
>|> The original theme song was FANTASTIC.  USA replaced one of the all 
>|> time best TV themes with something totally disgusting.  Sick!!
>|> 
>|> -{ DA }-
>
>USA did not replace the theme.  I know that they had the same wretched theme 
>when the show ran in normal syndicated reruns a few years back.  I'm certain 
>that the Billy Joel theme was NEVER used, even when the show originally 
>appeared on ABC.

Fortunately that is not correct.  Less than a month before Bosom Buddies
started playing on USA an independant station out here in L.A. was running
the shows *INTACT* with the normal excellent theme song...

-{ DA }-

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From: "J3SF000 (The Marshalls)" <J3SF@UNB.CA>
Subject: Rob Morrow on Leno tomorrow night
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 05:41:20 GMT

Hi,

Just like the subject line says, apparently Rob Morrow will be on
The Tonight Show tomorrow night (Thursday).

Does anyone know what song Gang Starr did on tonight's episode of
Leno (Wednesday)?  If it was "Jazz Thing" from the MO' BETTER BLUES
soundtrack, I'll kick myself.

Scott Marshall
Red Eyed and Sniffling

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From: staggers@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: Miller ratings
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:09:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.075213.15910@u.washington.edu> janhsu@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi) writes:
>
>
>After reading some posts regarding Miller and his show, I have decided to post
>my opinions. I thought the show was a refresher and one of the best attempts
>against the higher rated shows on NBC and FOX, especially considering the 
>horrible ABC attempts. In my opinion, Miller is more humorous and intellectually
>funny then the others. However, I fealt that his co-host and band was a total
>disaster. But I doubt anyone can match the integration of Letterman's band and
>sidekick into a late night show. It is sort of sad in a way to see such a 
>talented comedian headed back into earlier careers. I hope Miller will 
>seek opportunities elsewhere, or perhaps ABC will grab him? In any case, I'm
>all for supporting his continuing existance in today's late night forum of
>shows.

actually, you could have seen this coming a mile away.  When your production
company (Tribune) owns a number of stations, including a superstation in
a major market (WGN) and they put you on (originally) at 1am...you know
there's not much confidence in their own product.

he wasnt bad, and certainly arsenio should go next.

--Ken
>
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From: pyango@guvax.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: KNIGHT RIDER 2000
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:04:45 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <osHmoB18w165w@bluemoon.rn.com>, djredick@bluemoon.rn.com (Darrin J. Redick) writes:
> The next Knight Rider film will be 'Knight Rider 2010', and no, David will
> not reprise his role.  All I know is that KITT gets a sex change and the
> new driver falls in love with 'her'.  The car is different too.  Reminded
> me of the Batmobile.
> 
You can't be serious. Please tell me you are being sarcastic. The idea 
of another Knightrider is unbearable.

-Pete Y.
From: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Bosom Buddies
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:46:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SataLink Info Systems - Huntingdon Valley, PA - 215-364-3324
Reply-To: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco) 

DA>Fortunately that is not correct.  Less than a month before Bosom 
DA>Buddies
DA>started playing on USA an independant station out here in L.A. was 
DA>running
DA>the shows *INTACT* with the normal excellent theme song...

Which was *NOT* being sung by Billy Joel.  Trust me, it was a 
re-recording by a "sound-alike" singer.  Paying Billy Joel
for both the rights to the song and his performance would have been 
cost-prohibitive.  It's done all the time.


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