HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: HST & SUpra: which is faster?
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:05:57 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz (John Davis) writes:

>>   Name 2 currently supported native Amiga applications that utilize full-dup
>> communications...

>well for a start what about people intending to run SLIP? There the
>full-duplex capability _will_ be needed.

  Granted, SLIP and Dnet are two situations that can utilize full-duplex
connections, but outside of the UNIX world there is little use for them.

  I'm not trying to trivialize their utility, but I was looking for a more
mainstream use, like BIMODEM or HS/LINK for the PeeCee, neither of which is
currently available for the Amiga.

>we're only talking a 16% speed diff between v32bis and the HST protocol here)
>as always, you pays your money and you takes your choice..

  Using a percentile value is a bit misleading as that represents a 2400bps
increase in bit rate, add to that the additional boost of V.42(bis) and it
is not that trivial.

  -jack-
From: jma@reef.cis.ufl.edu (John 'Vlad' Adams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Tempest BBS for sale.
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:13:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.

Did qsnow@lonestar.utsa.edu really type:
> 
> Correcto! Tempest BBS is the best BBS software currently produced for the
> Amiga.  And the NEXT version of TEMPEST will support FIDO net, and XPR
> protocols .. So, then there will be absolutely no reason for anyone not
> to LOVE tempest!

It's the best, yet it doesn't currently have the features I've been 
enjoying in Amiga BBS software for the past three years?  You might
want to consider a job in politics...
-- 
John Adams - Sysop - Beachside BBS.  (Amiga/Cyber/Fido/UUCP)     _
Internet: jma@cis.ufl.edu      John_Adams%lamia.uucp@ufl.edu  _ // Amiga
Fidonet: 1:3612/57.0         UUCP: uflorida!lamia!John_Adams  \X/ Forever
Cybernet: 57:2163/57.0  AT&T: 1-904-492-2305 (Pensacola, FL)
From: hribnak@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Jim Hribnak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: C-NET
Date: 22 Aug 92 13:08:59 MST
Organization: The Nucleus 16 Lines 403-531-9353 -CNet Amiga-

Same here Eric.

I help Beta test CNet on a 10 line system, and havent really found too many
MAJOR bugs in it..  and from what I read inthe Beta 2.0 base on his bbs, some
people have had problems with it bewcause they dont know what they are doing
sometimes!  The new 2.26 version of CNet is great!  I have it at home and have
been testing it.. no problems from what I have seen.
Anyways thats my opinion.. I have been with CNet since 1985 and love the
software! it does what I want!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: danaf@aix.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Urgent Request...
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:33:44 GMT

That's the major problem.. i have no idea what this stupid box wants. Someone
suggested to me that it may be looking for a CTS signal, but JRComm will not do
CTS/RTS handshaking unless it gets a DSR signal, which the box does not gener-
ate. I'm going to have to ask someone with an Amiga, or someone at the RPI
Telecomm office. 

SIGH.

Why can't I have a normal computer like EVERYBODY ELSE?  9)

<<Just kidding... in the words of the Moose, "Amigas are better.">>

I am...
  -Frank Dana, known (718)-(212)-(516) over as Amiuser/Doc Ami!
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: V.Fast Transfer Rates
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:12:49 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

Fady_Kardoush@amusers.UUCP (Fady Kardoush) writes:

>Well, usually they do not consider that when a new item is in creation. :)
>BUT - With the new fiber-optic cables, heck! Who know how much you can
>pull!

  If and when I get fiber optic service I do hope that ISDN is also available.
If so, there will be little need for a modem ever again.

  But then again, it took 20 years for touchtone service to get installed
nationwide and some areas still don't have cable TV today.

  I'm not holding my breath.

  -jack-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Re: Kermit
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:16:29 GMT

MLO@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (LORETI, Maurizio) publicly declared:
>'Kermit' as a standalone program does not exist for the Amiga

Oh no!  I've got an imposter on my Amiga!  One of my first aquisitions
when I got my A500 was a program claiming to be Kermit.  At least, it
looked like Kermit and acted like Kermit...

Yes, Virginia, Kermit (the program) does exist on the Amiga.  Though
why anyone would ever want to use it is beyond me.  From the contents of
Fish Disk 026:

C-kermit        Port of the popular "kermit" program, a flexible
                virtual terminal and file transfer program from
                Columbia University.
                Author:  Unknown, ported to Amiga by Davide Cervone

-- 
-------------------------------------------------------+-----------------------
Only Irish coffee provides in a single glass all four  |      Steven King
essential food groups: alcohol, caffeine, sugar, and   |   Motorola Cellular
fat.                                    (Alex Levine)  |   king@rtsg.mot.com
From: kkrebs@amilink.UUCP (Ken Krebs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: SupraFax v.32bis modems
Date: 29 Aug 92 18:06:57 GMT
Reply-To: amilink!kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us (Ken Krebs)
Organization: Sacramento Amiga Computer Club - Sacramento, CA
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <12619.ANN@aldhfn.akron.oh.us> ciaran@aldhfn.akron.oh.us (Skip Watson) writes:
> In article <64848@cup.portal.com>,
> 	Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON) writes:
> -> Would some of you people with Supra Modems, capture your settings and
> -> post them here so those considering them, or having problems may be
> -> able to see what makes it tick right.
> 
> 
> 	Here's what I'm using and I have been able to connect to anything
> and everything.
> 
> AT&F2MW2S0=1S2=255
> 
> AT&F2  factory default setting
> M      speaker off
> W2     error corection result codes not reported and connect xxx reports
>        DCE speed
> S0=1   Auto answer on first ring
> S2=255 disable the +++ hangup string
> 
> 	I've connected to T1000s, T2500s, T3000s, WorldBlazers,
> SupraFaxModem V.32bis, Practical Peripherals something or other, HSTs, HST
> Dual Standards, and Emerson 2400s with no to little trouble. The most
> problems I've had are when the lines get noisy.
> 	I run DLG-PRO and DUUCP. It even works with JRComm .92 :-). The
> ROM I have now is 1.200C.
> 
> Hope this helps someone somewhere.
> 
> Skip


I use the following string:

AT&F2&D1%E1S11=50S95=47

AT&F2  Factory Default Settings
&D1    Switch to asynchronous command state upon ON-to-OFF transition of
       DTR (so your modem can stay connected when you have a guru)
%E1    Auto Retrain Enabled
S11=50 Speed up the s..l..o..w.. default dialing tones
S95=47 Enabled all extended connection strings. i.e.:

       CARRIER 14400

       PROTOCOL: LAP-M

       COMPRESSION: V.42BIS

       CONNECT 14400/ARQ


This string works great for me!

-- 
*********** NewOrderDepecheModeUltravoxViolentFemmesKillingJoke |Amiga 3000|
*Ken Krebs* SkinnyPuppyLaTourBauhausBookOfLoveModernEnglishB52s |25Mhz/6Meg|
*********** FishBoneBigCountryJoyDivisonSiouxsie&TheBansheesXTC |Multitask!|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
       UUCP: uunet!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!citrus!amilink!kkrebs
   InterNet: amilink!kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us or: kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:5939 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:14638
From: set@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Toaster Man)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: GVP Gforce 030 and serial problems.
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:47:19 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I just installed a gvp gforce 030/50mhz board on my 2000 with 2.0 roms.
I tried to d/l something from my unix account today and got a very slow cps
alot slower than when i ran at 68000 speed.  I have a supra 14.4 k modem and 
a 14.4 k connection to the net.  I ususally get about 1000 cps d/lin from the net ...... however when i tried to d/l today with my 030 board i got 300 cps and 
lots of d/l errors.??? any1 have a clue whats up?

i use jrcomm,2.0 roms,030,suprafax 14.4


Steve
From: Ivan_Pintori@mas.sublink.org (Ivan Pintori)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Help on accelerating an A2000 rev 4.x
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:43:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: mas.Ivan_Pintori.00um
Organization: MangaZone Advanced Services, Rome - ITALY

In a message dated Thu 20 Aug 92  4:51, Jc@crosfield.co.uk (jerry Cullingfo
wrote:

 JC> Hmm... I've been using a 33MHz GVP Combo in my 4.(1?) Amiga 2000 for
 JC> over a year now, with no problems.

That is the old Combo version.

 JC> Somewhere or other I've got some mail from Dave Haynie describing the
 JC> differences between the 4.X versions. I

Just about a couple of resistor packs over a couple of chips, a resistor by
the 68000 and some other thing.... actually the problem is the bus noise,
that's what's really killing the 4.x!  Anyhow I still haven't done the
upgrading yet.... I'll wait for september first.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

|  ARPA InterNet Mail --> Ivan_Pintori@mas.sublink.org                  |
|  Fidonet Matrix ------> FidoNet:  Ivan Pintori 2:335/330@fidonet.org  |
|  Amiganet Matrix -----> AmigaNet: Ivan Pintori 39:102/3@amiganet.ftn  |
From: James_Mcormond@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James Mcormond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: USR Dual
Distribution: world
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:57:26 EST

I'm selling my current V32bis/V42bis HST 14.4k Dual "Square LED" modem. 
Its still a new modem (less than a year old), and in great condition.  Full
manual and origional packaging still here (manual and Quick reference
card).  I've never had a problem connecting to various V32bis & HST modems.
I've enjoyed this modem quite alot in the last 11 months, but its time for
me to get something different.

Asking $600cdn plus shipping (in NorthAmerica preferably).


-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

James A McOrmond - Ottawa, Ontario - V32bis HighSpeed Modem!
Fidonet#1:163/109.3
UUCP: Jam@Jammys.OCUnix.On.Ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: deeken@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Hans-Christoph Deeken)
Subject: Re: HST & SUpra: which is faster?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:17:10 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt

In article <3630@faatcrl.UUCP>, jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan) writes:
>   Granted, SLIP and Dnet are two situations that can utilize full-duplex
> connections, but outside of the UNIX world there is little use for them.
> 
>   I'm not trying to trivialize their utility, but I was looking for a more
> mainstream use, like BIMODEM or HS/LINK for the PeeCee, neither of which is
> currently available for the Amiga.

Well, what about UUCP-g protocol? 


>   -jack-

Hannes
-- 
Hans-Christoph Deeken                                        (Glenlivet on IRC)
Inst. fuer theoret. Informatik		(deeken@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de)
TH Darmstadt, Germany          (I don't speak for THD, they don't speak for me)
        "Whisky ist fluessiges Sonnenlicht --- George Bernard Shaw"
From: jprad@faatcrl.UUCP (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: HST & SUpra: which is faster?
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:11:44 GMT
Organization: FAA Technical Center, Atlantic City NJ

kehlet@kehlet.adsp.sub.org (Jesper Kehlet) writes:

>The HST standard uses a backtalk channel at only 450 bps, when
>Supra/TwinCom etc.  uses a full-blown backtalk on 14,400 bps, so consider
>HST the slowest...

  Name 2 currently supported native Amiga applications that utilize full-duplex
communications...

  V.32bis is nice, standardized and getting cheaper all the time.

  It don't save on phone costs like a 16.8k HST though.

  -jack-
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Term 2.3 - which file is which?>
Date: 29 Aug 92 16:12:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.715104775
Organization: University of Washington

I noticed a 300K file and a 700K file for term 2.3

Which one do I need to download to get a working version?  I don't need
source code and don't want to spend a lot of time downloading at 1200 baud
(our machine suffers a lot of lag when the programmers are compiling and 
long downloads OFTEN have to be redone several times - late night is not an
option - these guys are on 24 hours a day, I swear they must sleep under
their desks!)

The readme files were no help.  They state simply "International disk 1"
and "International disk 2"  ????  What does this mean?

Thanks in advance!
Crystal
  ;>
From: rkushner@sycom.mi.org (Ronald Kushner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: HST & SUpra: which is faster?
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:49:05 GMT
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.95f

In an article, tommyi@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Tommy The King) writes:

>(Jesper Kehlet) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug21.013325.8441@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> coup@crs.cl.msu.edu
>(Chris Klaus) writes:
>> > I am getting a SupraFax 14.4K baud modem. But I use to have an
>> > HST.  From one source, Ive heard that HST was faster than
>> > SupraFax's protocal.  Like SupraFax would get only 1600 cps
>> > transfering the same file as HST at 1800 cps.  Is there any validity
>> > to that statement?  
>> > Which is faster?  I would think they were the same.
>> 
>> The HST standard uses a backtalk channel at only 450 bps, when
>> Supra/TwinCom etc.  uses a full-blown backtalk on 14,400 bps, so consider
>> HST the slowest...
>> 
>...ehh...are all of you just stupid or what? the latest hsts run in 16800
>baud and v.32bis runs in 14400 baud.. end of discussion...
>

...ehh... Try using bimodem or any kind of full duplex protocol on the 
HST(like some games, or maybe inter-bbs communications)...
 
The HST will choke on anything that requires full duplex. This makes it 
worthless(IMHO).

UUCP won't even run faster than 300 baud on my HST, and it will run on my HALF 
DUPLEX T1000. Does this make my 9600 baud T1000 faster than a 16.8 HST? As far 
as I can tell the 9600 baud Telebit outpaces 16.8..

The only thing that works great on the HST is Y-ModemG and Z-Modem, if you 
ever plan on using it for more interactive protocols I wouldn't suggest buying 
even a 28.8 HST...

End of discussion.


(P.S. They treat Sysops like shit. My friend has been waiting 6 months for 
delivery under their "sysop discount". I'd hate to depend on them for service 
in the future)
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:6037 comp.sys.amiga.misc:13358
From: kkrebs@amilink.UUCP (Ken Krebs)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: The cause for Term problems? (was Re: Term 2.3 still has problems...)
Date: 2 Sep 92 03:43:57 GMT
Reply-To: amilink!kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us (Ken Krebs)
Organization: Sacramento Amiga Computer Club - Sacramento, CA
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Aug30.181414.27830@polari> dwdyer@polari.online.com writes:
> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
> 
> >Okay...  I give up.  Nobody else seems to be having problems, so...
> 
> I just got a copy of Term 2.3 and it dies more often than not.  It's the
> guru 8000 0003, every time.  So, you're not alone.  
> 
> >Are any of these programs known problem-causers?  I didn't think so,
> >but maybe you folk would know better.
> 
> [most of list deleted]
> >   19 Toolmanager        0   12:44:33    0:00:03.620   0.3%   4096    254
> 
> This is the only one we have in common that is of the suspicious type.  I've
> had problems with Toolmanager before, and I'm about to check it out and see
> if it is the troublemaker.  If it is, I'm going back to SteveX's ToolsX
> i
>            -Wayne-
> -- 
>                  Wayne Dyer --- dwdyer@polari.online.com  
Most problems with ToolManager stem from the fact that no one changes the
Stack setting.  Try changing the stack for the "problem" program to
something higher than 20000.

-- 
*********** NewOrderDepecheModeUltravoxViolentFemmesKillingJoke |Amiga 3000|
*Ken Krebs* SkinnyPuppyLaTourBauhausBookOfLoveModernEnglishB52s |25Mhz/6Meg|
*********** FishBoneBigCountryJoyDivisonSiouxsie&TheBansheesXTC |Multitask!|
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
       UUCP: uunet!csusac.ecs.csus.edu!citrus!amilink!kkrebs
   InterNet: amilink!kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us or: kkrebs@citrus.sac.ca.us
From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: C-NET
Date: 3 Sep 92 10:41:46 PST
Organization: BBS

Have you done any work on SDBackup since that one fish disk version nine
zillion years ago?  If you've pretty much abandoned it, can I have the source?

(I did send you a shareware fee for it, long ago...)
From: sacke@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Elizabeth E Sack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Term 2.3 still has problems...
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:16:42 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <17k8e1INN3hq@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> jbgoldsm@cats.ucsc.edu (Joshua B Goldsmith) writes:
>
>I do not have that problem on my A3000 using the "term 2.3 '030" version.
>At least it hasn't crashed on me yet while doing that...
>
>Josh

I run the 030 version too, and I have yet (in any release after the 030 versions
were made available) to experience any of these problems.

Jeff
From: drew@cgou11.enet.dec.com (Steve Drew)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: C-NET
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:42:46 GMT
Reply-To: drew@cgou11.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment. Calgary, Canada.



Well, I kinda missed most of this thread, but if someone did use my
aux-handler in commercial program, I'm disappointed that I was not consulted
for permission. A professional company would ensure that they had seeked
permission without using such approach. (The binary  and source did have
copyright).
Heck, I could of provided much newer versions that support protocols and 
other features...if only they had asked.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Steve Drew: drew@cgou11.enet.dec.com or drew@bootrom.mtroyal.ab.ca
Phone     : 403-295-HELP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: jdp@caleb.UUCP (Jim Pritchett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: BFJ Enterprises
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:11:18 GMT
Organization: is sometimes desirable

In article <66572@hydra.gatech.EDU>, Michael David Alberghini writes:

[...]

> to their retail outlet.  The store was closed and locked with a sign
> on it saying "Closed for 2 weeks for remodeling".  There were also

[...]

"Closed for remodeling" is a euphemism for "we ran out of money" in many cases.
I don't know if this applies to the specific company above, but I have seen
similar signs in several stores that never reopened.


                                                Jim Pritchett


UUCP:  rwsys.lonestar.org!caleb!jdp
 or    utacfd.uta.edu!rwsys!caleb!jdp
From: jc@crosfield.co.uk (jerry cullingford)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: C-NET
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:14:39 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <tdietz.04u7@tcedge.mi.org> tdietz@tcedge.mi.org (Tom Dietz) writes:
>PD code is still Copywritten.  Copywritten code is protected for the basic 
>principle of someone else cannot sell it.  People that produce PD code are a 
>good asset to the Amiga community, they share there knowledge openly with 
>others, this code is STILL copywritten..

I think you're confusing public domain and freely redistributable.

(At first, I thought it was a fairly minor point, but then I thought a bit
more and realised it could make quite a big difference, so here goes..)

"Public domain" means that you can do _whatever you like_ with it. Modify it,
give it away, or even sell it for vast sums of money to anyone prepared to
pay you for it. Specifically, there's nothing wrong in including public
doamin stuff in your code, although acknowledging the author would be the
nice/moral/ethical thing to do if it forms a significant part :-) :-)
 
"freely redistributable" is what you appear to mean - copyright (that's
right as in "the right to make copies" not write as in written, BTW;
there's no such animal as 'copywritten' :-) ) material which the author
has permitted to be freely redistributed under certain explicit conditions.

Those conditions may allow people to include the material in other works,
commercial or otherwise, or they may not. Depends on what the author said
when he released it.

Not being a lawyer :-) and in a different country anyway :-) I don't know
what the status of something put (by the author) on a fish disk,
bulletin board, or ftp site, that doesn't contain explicit conditions,
would be.

I would _guess_ that it could well be considered as placing it in the public
domain, since you're obviously encouraging people to copy it, and haven't
put any restrictions on what they can then do with it...

and I suspect that merely putting a copyright notice on makes no difference,
_unless_ the notice restricts what you are allowed to do. (Since the author
owned the copyright anyway, whether or not he put a notice on).

The moral? be careful when you release something, I guess :-) :-) unless
you really do want it to be public domain.


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