HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dwilliam@wookie.ess.harris.com (David Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
Subject: Re: Did someone say servos?
Keywords: TW again
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:47:11 GMT
Organization: Harris Information Systems Division, Melbourne, FL

In <1992Aug13.173937.23404@trantor.harris-atd.com> dwilliam@wookie.ess.harris.com (David Williams) writes:

[Article and *2* sigs deleted]

   Jeez.  Just when I was ready to jump back in the water, I fumble
the post.  Sorry about the extra sig.

-- 
      Dave Williams                                              My 
        dwilliam@jabba.ess.harris.com                         opinions	 
           "Huh?  What?  Could you repeat the question?"        only.  
Xref: sparky alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo:516 alt.books.technical:221 alt.prose:1125 alt.callahans:10529
From: Eric_J_Applegate@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo,alt.books.technical,alt.prose,alt.callahans
Subject: Submissions needed
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:14:33 GMT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)


                !!! Request for Help !!!

   We are in the process of creating an email-based document
repository and retrieval system.  We would like to offer
documents and texts not found on existing servers and anonymous
ftp sites.  We are looking for contributions.

   Think of all the places you look for new and interesting
information.  Browsing in a favorite bookstore or library,
reading your way through a well stocked magazine rack, glancing
at newspaper headlines, searching for information that you don't
already posses.  Most people already do this online as well.  But the
need for information sources is always growing.

    Please send us any public domain documents that you'd like to
share.  This can include technical documentation, short stories,
poetry, political commentary or any other general information.
We are open to your ideas.  Send us your "gems" that you've saved
away; information that you've come across and thought important
enough to keep.  But please, only public domain documents, or
those clearly marked for public distribution.  While this will
not be a "pay-for-read" system, copyrights must always be
respected.

   Send your submissions to submits@edm.com.

    To retrieve information, the server can be reached by sending
an email message to server@edm.com.  Include in your message
"help" to receive information on how to use the server.

   Thanks in advance !!!

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Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
From: dlwood@mothra.cns.syr.edu (David L Wood)
Subject: Surprised myself
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 21:31:34 EDT

- scrawlings of a wild-eyed author, left on a book in the chat one day:


Whilst writing part two of insanity, I made a split second decision to create
another character.  I wrote about three lines about him and then scratched the
idea and killed that text.  What surprised me was that later on, I was thinking
about that character.  He seemed to take form in my mind with a meager three
lines of text.  I did a double-take, and had the weirdest feeling.  I can't
describe it; has anyone else had a similar experience?

Another interesting item I noticed while writing:  It takes a bit of thought to
put down a grammatically correct sentence, one with meaning and a purpose to
the story.  The length of time it takes to write a sentence compared to the
time it takes to read it is astonishing.  Maybe I'm too much of a perfectionist
but it always seems weird to re-read the paragraph you just wrote seconds ago,
and then realize how quickly you read it.  I think this is because you have so
many thoughts churning while you're putting the sentences together in the
paragraph, so much so that you make some mental connections that aren't visible
in the text.  I find that I have to really thresh out my ideas in each
paragraph so that I don't forget something vital.  

Am I, like the title of the story I'm currently working on, insane? Or do other
writers out there have similar feelings when writing?

I will mail a zillion copies of netiquette to anyone who starts a serious 
(serious being the essential word) story with: "It was a dark and stormy 
night."  :-)

See ya in the chat.

- end of scrawlings of that wild-eyed writer guy.  Just who was he?
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| dlwood@mailbox.syr.edu      | Gigs and gigs of NiCad memory, bummer.. |
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From: langjj@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Jericha J. Lang)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
Subject: Mitochondria Problem!
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:32:15 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

Sorry, guys, I'm having trouble with this darn thing. If you'd like a copy just e-mail me for it, kay?
 
Love,
JJ
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
From: pcellik@axion.bt.co.uk (Peter SPHINX Cellik)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
Subject: just read the interfacing
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:02:10 GMT
Reply-To: pcellik@axion.bt.co.uk (Peter SPHINX Cellik)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs



I saved away the post of the story 'The Interfacing'.
Today I finally got around to reading it, it was written
and posted by Chris Beauregard I think on the 9 of Aug.
I enjoyed reading it, it had a special erie mood, a 
strange story to place, a mix of new and old hardware.

I never saw any feed back on it (I might have just skipped
over the postings if there were)?  Has anyone else read
it?

   SPHINX

====================================================
=== Kill others only if you wish to be killed.   ===
===                                       SPHINX ===   
====================================================
From: peterc@cubetech.com (Peter Creath)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
Subject: searching for piece of UN Patrol
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:21:24 CDT
Organization: Cube Technologies
Reply-To: peterc@cubetech.com
Distribution: world
            

Well, I've been trying to keep a running file on the UN Patrol and
I (distressingly) found I was missing a message or two.  Here's where
it's missing:

"As with most things in this world, what machines believe is what people
believe. I would have thought you would not be taken in so easily by silicon
illusions. My real name is lost somewhere in the Containment Zone, and is going
to stay there. Neither you nor some jumped up AI is going to get that from me,
even with your technology!"

Without looking round he then said, "Oh, and we have a tail by the way."

"I know. And its just like him to turn up at a time like this." Crane replied.


=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=
<missing story, deduced from the quoted text directly below>
=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=?=


>"Thats true enough," muttered Crane before delivering instructions into her
>phone. She clipped it back onto her belt as a Mitshubishi Nightsky rounded the
>corner and stopped in front of them. The doors hummed open.

Jack Mills sat damply on the back seat next to Boswell, as Crane
took the front.  The doors shut, and the locks clicked ominously.
Not that he was planning on leaving anytime soon.  Plan?  Not
much of one; it currently consisted of (a) sticking to Jenna
Crane like glue, and (b) finding out what he could about the
aliens.  Since part A was acheived well enough by sharing the
same transportation, time to turn his attention to part B.  That
would depend on his concentration, and how well shielded the others
were.  Surface thoughts were easiest, and also least likely to
hold pertinant information - unless, of course, someone asked
the right questions...


Please mail me a copy of any messages in that gap, if you have a copy.
Thank you.

(Yeah, it's me, the guy who bugged everyone to start posting...  Why
haven't I posted?  12 hours of work/day can do that.  Maybe when school
starts back up...)

(p.s.  Hey, Tim, when're you gonna post that last issue of the Unity.*
saga we were working on?)

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Peter Creath                 "When I was a boy I was told that anybody could
peterc@cubetech.com           become president; I'm beginning to believe it."
                                                           -- Clarence Darrow
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo
From: u921470@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Anthony Chan)
Subject: present  state of technology
Organization: Uni of Tas
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 03:39:30 GMT

Hi

I would just like to know how far the world really is with virtual 
technology.
How far have we come with this technoloy in 1992 as far as concerns
 data-suits, power and speeds of reality engines, resolution in polygons, etc.
Also, where are trends in this industry going as far as the future is 
concerned. 
If anyone can provide some info or sources of info, could you also please 
include your own ideas as to where this technology is going.
I would be most grateful.

Regards,
Anthony .
From: Jeremiah.Blatz@dartmouth.edu (Jeremiah Blatz)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Rights in cyberspace
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:46:42 GMT
 <=!2ml8d.tmaddox@netcom.com> 
 <1992Aug13.013045.15676@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au> 
 <=h7m5k_.tmaddox@netcom.com>  
 <1992Aug18.062941.28051@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Aug18.062941.28051@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au>
pete@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Peter Alexander Merel) writes:

> If the farmer gives away his last bushel he cannot grow more. Otherwise he can.
> Neither case implies that corn is not a commodity.
> 
> >	But if I tell you that you can ftp a copy of _Moby-Dick_ from 
> >Project gutenberg, I have lost nothing.  
> 
> If you give away the last copy of Moby Dick (even if we have to
> brainscrape you to make sure) then you cannot make more, and have lost
> something. My point is that there is no qualitative difference between
> a physical object and a virtual object - both require an investment of
> finite resources, and _control_ over either is saleable.

If somebody calls up a BBS and downloads an e-copy of _Moby Dick_ there
is simply one more e-copy of _Moby Dick_ floating around. Unless the
sysop of said BBS deletes his copy, they will never not have it. A
farmer, on the other hand, cannot give someone corn without having
less, he they grow more. The farmer *can* grow more corn, but it will
cost him money to do so.

Jeremiah
From: eliason@pine.circa.ufl.edu (ELIASON)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Rosetta
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:23:54 GMT
Reply-To: eliason@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: University of Florida  (ufl.edu)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4

Rosetta is not necessarily associated with either Mondo or ...of the jungle.
Their address is:
  P.O. Box 4611
  Berkeley, CA 94704
Write to them for information on such subjects as natural highs.
Have fun.

Donald Eliason 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: petesk@microsoft.com (Pete Skelly)
Subject: Re: NC/Invitatiuon for Psychoanalysys.
Date: 11 Aug 92 17:47:39 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <B9NBPB1w165w@fennec.sccsi.com> merlin@fennec.sccsi.com (Lorne Naff) writes:
>as I did, fairly well off socially.  I have no real idea why I'm doing 
>this, I have not become any happier, gotten richer, had sex more often, 
>or experienced much change at all.  None of the usual motivations is 
>there for me, but i wouldn't dream of becoming a `stiff' again.  I enjoy 
>_something_ about the entire thing, but I don't know what.  I have 
>weathered unnecesary trouble for my choices [read haircut, but what 
>frightens me is the fact that I got none of it from normal sources.  
>Family, friends who are religious, love it...  Hmmm..], but continue to 
>plow ahead undaunted.  Why?   I DON'T KNOW!!!   Actually, I was hopping 
>for a little quantity in help.  Psychoanalysis is a neferiously 
>innacurtae suject, but due to the sheer volume of readers, one of you may 
>hit onto why I am the way I am....
>    /// & ///
>--
>Mail to Chuck@Karova.com
>--

May I posit that you are gaining a feeling of independence, of identity by
stepping away from the crowd.  Everyone needs to know who they are.  Some
choose to find out by contrasting with the crowd.

petesk@microsoft.com
My Opinions.



Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: knappenp@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Trent)
Subject: Re: 'Sneakers'...
Organization: Followers of the Jigging Cat
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 01:26:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.200756.21299@athena.cs.uga.edu> fore@athena.cs.uga.edu (Howard Fore) writes:
>In article <1992Aug12.154547.1937@cis.umassd.edu> acsbk@UMASSD.EDU writes:
>>
>>	There is a movie comming out soon called 'sneakers' that seems
>>to involve the NSA, codebreaking, cracking and 'The Ultimate Code'
>>of some sort. It is due out soon. Anybody seen the trailer?
>>	It seems to be set in 1992/3.
>>
>>	Bret.
>
>
>Yeah, though I don't remember exactly who is in it. It seems to be some deal

Dan Akroyd, for one, is in it.  I don't remember who else.

>where a group of "Private Security Consultants" (read real snoopy high tech
>PI's) get caught up working for the NSA because they get blackmailed into.
>Either they do the cracking the NSA/Govt. wants or the NSA will expose all
>the improprieties/slightly/very illegal things the group has done in the
>past and, until now, have gotten away with.
>
They are the kind of people who are hired to test out other people's
security systems ... semi-legalized breaking-and-entering.  (Like 
Silver Sable's team in Marvel comics...)

>There is some fairly decent work on the credits. All the text appears first as
>real words, but they don't make much sense strung together. Then, seconds
>later, the letters scramble and form the real text. I thought it was highly
>appropriate given the context of the movie.
>
These are an old form of code, (read code = secret message type) which I
forget the name of...but I agree, it's cool.  It takes the letters
of each word and scrambles them into different words...
for instance, Dan Akroyd has been scrambled into Kandy Road.  (same letters,
different order...)

>Howard Fore   fore@athena.cs.uga.edu
>"Check your conscience and your wallet at the door"
>		 - "High and Mighty Living", Caroline Aiken


Have a nice day.

-PaulK-

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* Not that Lifeguards ever get in trouble for publishing...*
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From: Loring Wirbel <lwirbel@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Date: 15 Aug 92 14:31 PDT
Subject: Re: Mondo 2000: R. U. Sirius
Nf-ID: #R:1992Aug13.014008.11037@uvm.edu:-2097125328:cdp:1300100008:000:439
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!lwirbel    Aug 15 14:31:00 1992


Another vote for larry spence.  Most of M2k seems decidedly UN- (or even
ANTI-) revolutionary.  It reminds me of what the Situationists thought
"Spectacular Culture" would be like.  I realize that (some of) the people
at M2k try hard, but there are publications around, such as "Boing Boing" (title?)
that accomplish a hell of a lot more, with less consumerism, and a hell of
a lot less production money.
Loring Wirbel
lwirbel@igc.apc.org
From: 4grodner_t@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: c-punk and etc.
Date: 16 Aug 92 16:53:07 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Aug16.735.3731@channel1>, eliot.gelwan@channel1.com (eliot gelwan) writes:
> 
> Uh, for those of us who might buy Cyberpunk Cereal for breakfast,
> what does an anarchy logo look like, please?
> 
> 
> ...eliot                                         |
> Internet: eliot.gelwan@channel1.com             -*-
>     RIME: ->CHANNEL [R/O okay]                   |
> 

    it's an A in a circle.... sorry don't have time to produce acctual
    ASCII graph representation...

    l8r'

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From: bliss32@terapin.com (Geoff Schmidt)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Non-conformity/Cyberpunk
Date: 19 Aug 92 10:54:51 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <77728@ut-emx.uucp>, cblandy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chris Blandy)
writes:
>In article <1992Aug11.063120.27808@microsoft.com> petesk@microsoft.com (Pete
Ske
>lly) writes:
>>What's wrong with wearing T-shirts and Jeans.  I mean really, it's
>>not what you wear, but why.  I wear T-shirts and Jeans 'cause they
>>are inexpensive and comfortable, not to mention versitile.
>
>Really...clothes can be an expression of social/political beliefs, but
>their real purpose is to shield us from our environment (And our
>self-conscience..)
>
>[...]
>
>>Fashion is a method of expression.  If you say that you are expressing
>>yourself to rebel agains society, this may be true.  But is that the
>>base reason.  Or are you rebelling against societ to gain the approval
>>of a group of people (those pretentious people who wear "black").
>>Be honest about it, but don't tell me, 'cause I don't care if you're
>>rebelling or not.  Only why.
>>
>>petesk@microsoft.com
>>My Opinions...
>
>Exactly...express yourself in a more constructive way.  Wearing all black
>or whatever to distance yourself from society only ruins your chances of
>sharing your own ideas about life/society/etc with society.  Keep your
>free mind but let go of your fashion-rebellion.
>
>cblandy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
You consider people wearing black as anti-society?  Well, why this could be
true it is also a completely narrow statement and one I believe probably a lot
of people feel this way which came to all of the ideas about "Rebellious
Dressing", I dont believe there is any kind of rebelious dressing simply
because I dont think there is any real kind of society here, mainly just large
groups of small cliques.  It is true that its hard to change (or add to)
society when you are not considered a part of it, but I have seen very few
people who can ever influence outside their cliques (assemblyes and congresses
just being one large cliques who happen to be able to force their ideas on
everyone else)

 bliss
From: helix@inferno.uoregon.edu (Robert Armstrong)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: a book (w0w)
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:02:44 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

The author is .....
	Oh, damn, my copy is at home.  Olum is the last name I believe.  The book appeared on the stands this past spring and should still be floating around in new book stores.  This is the first of this genre by this author also his first under his real name.

	A good read and not to contrived.  Give it 3.5 stars out of 5.
	It kept my attention, and my girlfriends as well.  

	Robert A.
	helix@inferno.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: tmaddox@netcom.com (Tom Maddox)
Subject: Re: Halo 
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 08:36:54 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <0PHiPB2w165w@angus.mi.org> thx1138@angus.mi.org writes:

>   Someone wrote "why don't the bookstores around my area stock your
>   book".  I've looked for it too, to no avail.  You might want to 
>   remind your publishers that if people don't get exposed to the book
>   then no one
>   no one is going to buy it!  There's at least two here on the net (me
>   and that other guy).  Who knows how many others?!?

	It's not the publisher who's clogging distribution in the cases you're
talking about; it's the bookstore.  The publisher won't force copies of _Halo_
on them; the bookstores have to *ask* and then *pay* (some % of $18.95).

	First novel hardbound sf?  Go see how many of them you find in your
bookstore.

	Special order it (or call Cody's Books, Black Oak Books, or Dark
Carnival in Berkeley, all of whom had it last I looked).

	Or wait for the paperback--sometime in October. (I can't believe I 
said that.)



-- 
				Tom Maddox
		    	    tmaddox@netcom.com
		   "I swear I never heard the first shot"
                Wm. Gibson, "Agrippa:  a book of the dead"
From: 4grodner_t@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: NeuroMovie
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:31:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Aug10.173455.14982@uwm.edu>, aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Strider) writes:
> 
> How does the MeSsy-DOS version of _Neuromancer_ play?  I never saw the other
> platform's versions of the game but I heard at least the graphics were
> fairly well done ... is the PC version any better/different?
> 
> 
> 
> Steve J. White
> aragorn@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
> skeptic@large@9600bps

  it may not be WING COM.'s graphics b ut the concept is worth at least
   2 evenings worth of play. especcially the part when you do acctual
   net-runs... (just my IMHO)

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From: stigmata@athena.mit.edu (???)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: CP Music
Keywords: Music Rap
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:45:30 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug15.223942.29987@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines) writes:
>okay. i am a 19 year old sophomore at ohio state university. i am going into 
>....
>what does this make me?
>
>i don't call myself anything, i am just happy the way i am.
>
>sines
>-- 
>    respond>>
>    **todd sines----email at: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu---digitally.**
>    **384 E.17th/Columbus, OH 43201 tel614.299.9529---the rest of the world**

i think this makes todd semi-weird, at least compared to the
"normal" person that society expects to go to ohio state, like
me.  NOT!

andy
From: mattb@ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: C-punk and etc. (Anarchy!)
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:31:48 GMT
Reply-To: mattb@olympus.ctron.com (Matt Brown)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

(Robert Reay) writes:
>acsbk@UMASSD.EDU writes:
>>	Yes, I think the idea of having read _Neuromancer_ 10 times and
>>putting anarchy sigils on personal items is silly, 
>     I saw (in a store called Utopia) a black t-shirt printed with about
>a 20 5" anarchy logos.  Is it just me or does a preprinted (even well ordered)
>anarchy shirt seem a little silly.


The only way anarchy will succeed is if we get organized!


Matt
Hey! Wait! Don't leave. I've still got some "United for Anarchy" t-shirts!
From: drennan@acfcluster.nyu.edu (XIXAX)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Latest Mondo 2000
Date: 15 Aug 92 15:33:45 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: New York University

Hmm...I don't know about the illustrious part...

Interestingly enough, the original article written gave much more credit to the
reader as far as knowing something about tech; it had to be "dumbed down" a bit
for an editor who didn't get what i was going on about.

I tried to stress that the learning curve involved was not
insurmountable...hence the street tech for beginners "flavor".

I have been told by the powers that be that much more hand on stuff is planned
for upcoming issues; hopefully that will mean less of the left coast gaga tech
worship - slash - new age cyber fashion show. 
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