From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
Subject: The Pagels Phenomenon? Part 1
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 05:42:27 GMT


Sarfatti responds to:
I prefer not to get into these flames but these people refuse to moderate
themselves. Boswell conveniently forgot to mention that my "threat" to call
in the police and the Feds was in response to his explicit threat to have
me killed!

I have never initiated flames or threats but only responded to those
initiated against me.  Oh what the hell - here we go again!

From:  (Brett McInnes)
Subject: Re: Professionalism
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:39:08 GMT


Well, you see, Jack, I was just reading one of your posts when I got a
telephone call with this hard-metallic voice claiming to be a computer
called SPECTRE. I then--as you put it--"seemed compelled" to cross-post it
to sci.physics. By the way, SPECTRE seemed really pissed that you were
apparently afraid that these revelations might sully your reputation as a
serious physicist. I assured it, of course, that this thought had never
entered your mind.

You were right about that Brett!  I do the Will of SAR!  I am merely an
instrument, a channel, a scribe!

SPECTRA (not SPECTRE) is the term used by Andrija Puharich in URI for the
alleged AI intelligence from a space-ship. "The Nine" is also used and it
played a significant role in the shennangans at Esalen with the Soviets in
late 70's.  I have never claimed that what happened to me in 1952 was what
it said it was. But I have truthfully described the facts of the
experience.

From:  (Brad Kepley)
Subject: Re: Scientific Truth Is Not Found in Threats
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 23:50:31 GMT
Bravo!  Sarfatti's threats were the most incredible thing I have ever seen.
I thought it was a joke!

Yes, kepley it was a joke and the joke is on you Goofy!  If you did not
exist, I would have had to invent you! Sarfatti.

You have a Nazi mentality Mr. Sarfatti.

It's HERR DOKTOR SARFATTI to you toots!
How can I have a Nazi mentality when I am a direct descendent of Solomon
ha-Zarfati a.k.a. Rashi de Troyes (1040-1105). Ask David Padwa of Agri-
Genetics in Santa Fe or Albuquerque NM if you don't believe me - he's the
one who told me.  My relative, Margherita Sarfatti trained Benito Mussolini
as a youth not Adolph Hitler. Don't you know the difference between a North
German Nazi and a good Italian-Jewish Fascist?  It was FDR's cousin, Putzi
Sedgwick-Hanfstaengl who was Adolph's piano player and court jester. Get
your facts straight keply!

Add me to the list of those you intend to sue I guess!

Sue? No way. I'm sending my boys Vito and Dominic to you with a free ticket
to a fat farm in Bosnia run by the Chetniks!

If anyone requires legal aid to protect themselves against legal action

"legal action" who needs it - I got "quantum action" at a distance from the
future, from the elsewhere- and you can't defend against it. What are you
going to do go to the coppers and tell them you're a victim of voodoo?
It's all cargo cult pseudo-science - it's not real you see!   Pagels
assured us of that in Cosmic Code - never mind that he fell off the
mountain after dreaming about it and recording his dream at the end of
Cosmic Code.  I hope you're luckier than Pagels.

Have you seen Q on Star Trek - The Next Generation? I'm sort of like that.

from anyone on the Net, I hope we can all pitch in to help them.

Help them? I'm the one who needs help!  Send me money!

I think we need to start a news group concerned with providing aid to
anyone sued by one of these fascists.

You gotta admit they had nice looking uniforms and good marching music -
and that goose-stepping is good exercise and it's getting popular again.
"It's spring time for Hitler in Germany ..." (Mel Brooks) Say who was the
sour kraut who posted the joke about the uniforms in sci.physics?
He's a good addition to this mad crew!

<cooling down now>

Here Goofy - take some valium!

Is this a joke? (Sarfatti)

Correction to the song:

"Oh crucify me on the lone prarie
with the blood drippin down my side,
Then I can say that I died in the way that
Christ Our Savior died!

Oh don't throw sticks
and don't throw stones
For they're against the rules,
Just hang me up on a wooden cross
with the stakes stick'n through my shoes.
For I want fame and I want my name
On the lips of a billion fools!"
by the late Robert Bashlow written for me in 1952

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