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From: bdraschk@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Bernd Raschke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Amiga 4000 Rebooting Troubles
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:01:03 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00a.informatik.uni-erlangen.de

lgibb@burner.com (Lance Gibb) writes:

>On Tue 15-Dec-1992  9:46p, D.C. Richardson wrote:
>DR>   Whenever I reboot using the C-A-A method, it appears that the hard drive
>DR> gets a jolt - it stops spinning for a sec (like it loses power), then it
>DR> does a re-spin, almost like a cold start.
>DR>   Now, this drive seems fine to be.. no errors or anything.. but I'm
>DR> worried
>DR> that all this spin-up/spin-down will kill it over time.  It also increases
>DR> boot time dramatically.

>All the 4000s do this, nothing wrong with your particular machine.  I don't
>know exactly why the drives gets this jolt, but I have seen it on each
>of the machines I have used.
Mine does not. No-guarantee-no-warranty-solution:
 Look for the red cable of the HD-connector (pin 1) and cut it. It's
 RESET and apparently supposed to be not connected (my manual says so).
 Cutting this line was the _very_ first thing i did to my new A4000 and
 so far i haven't regretted it.


>I have problems with my 1960 and DCTV.  With DCTv hooked up, I get verticle
>lines through my picture.  Not severe, but irritating.  I also notice
>those lines without DCTV, but I have to really look for them.
I also have these lines on my Nec 3D, quite visible :-(

Ciao,
	Arty
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: dueker@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (The Code Slinger)
Subject: Re: Minimum Room Temperature for an Amiga
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Computer Sciences Corp
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:28:00 GMT

In article <15DEC199210234739@xenon.arc.nasa.gov>, dueker@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (The Code Slinger) writes...
>I had a Chemistry/Physics instructor back (way back!) in high school that
>gave a different (and interesting) conversion:
> 
>  F = (C + 40) / 1.8 - 40
>  C = (F + 40) * 1.8 - 40
> 
>The only diff between the two conversions is either multiplying or dividing
>the 1.8.
> 
>Chris

Silly me!  Should'a checked the formula before posting!  The corrected
formulas follow (just swapped the * and / between the two):

  F = (C + 40) * 1.8 - 40
  C = (F + 40) / 1.8 - 40

Humble apologies.
  Chris
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From: joeles@cup.portal.com (Joel Edward Swan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Snapshot (was Re: ENHANCEMENTS: C= Please consider this)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:48:33 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec14.155025.1357@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>

>In article <Bz9rHw.8Ls@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu
>(Sam Hulick) writes:
>>
>> 1) Snapshotting.  It would be much better if the DOS would remember
>> where you put things, like the rest of the icon-based DOS's do.
>
>In your pull-down menus, you'll find a Snapshot command.  Use it to your

...r you can use Left Amiga-S.

>heart's content.

DUH.  :-) That's the whole point.  You shouldn't need to "snapshot" an icon.
If you move it, the new position should be remembered automatically.  I
never move icons without wanting them to stay there.  So why force you to
crap....  er, I mean snapshot?

>As for the "rest of the icon-based" systems, I can say that I *much* prefer th
e
>Amiga's snapshotting method over the Mac's (I have a Mac sitting on my desk at
>work).  I realize this is personal preference - my preference is that icons
>shouldn't snap unless I tell them to, just like file edits aren't written to
>disk unless I select a Save command.  The Mac's method doesn't allow you to
>undo your new view.  If you accidently clean up a window or select view-by-nam
e
>instead of icon, you're sunk since there is no Undo for this operation.

If there's a wide divergence in what people would like, perha[s a prefs
setting for auto-save or snapshot.

>--
>
>Ed Wilts, BC Systems Corp., 4000 Seymour Place, Victoria, B.C., Canada, V8X 4S
8
>EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA     Office:  (604) 389-3430    Fax: (604) 389-3412
>



-Joel
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From: jamiller@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: How about ARexx ports for Workbench and other system prgs. Re: ENHANCEM
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:54:05 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I'm wondering how many other people would like to see AREXX ports for
all system programs (including preference editors) and Workbench.
I've often thought that this would have only been 'common-sense'
considering the degree to which ARexx support is available in
Applications. 
--
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James Miller

_chicchai .sig no ho ga ichiban iin janai ka..._
             Enlightenment Happens?
From: jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: WBench 3 Advantages ?
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:29:44 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

jim@cs.curtin.edu.au (Jim McGrady) writes:

>Hi All

>A simple question : is there any advantage in using Workbench 3 on pre AGA
>machines ?

Yes.  Layers.library is significantly faster (so much so that it makes you
wonder what they were doing wrong before) as are disk operations, plus it
takes a lot less memory than running 2.04, NickPrefs, BellPrefs, etcetera,
etcetera, ad nauseum.

>For that matter, will WB 3 work on pre AGA machines ?!

It certainly will - after the release of the new machines with 3.0, I got
a demo of it on a developer friend's machine (An A3000).  It works fine,
and my expectation is that A500 owners will want to upgrade from 2.04 for
the speedups.  The problem is that CBM hasn't released it yet (which is
extremely frustrating and annoying, since it's already out on AGA systems -
my only guesses as to why they haven't released it yet to the rest of us
(or at least those who don't happen to have AGA systems with kickfiles to
copy ;) ): 1) They don't want it to get out that not all of the AGA speedups
are in hardware (An 8 color screen in 3 seems to move windows faster than a
4 color (2 bitplane) screen under 2), and 2) They aren't quite through with
it yet and want to wait until 3.1 is complete before releasing it.  Either
way, it's very annoying to those of us who want to start using and especially
coding 3.  They'll probably pull the same fiasco with the RKMs they did with
2.04 and we'll all spend months trying to get the new ones and all the same
hassle they put us through before.

>Jim
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: matija@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Matija Milostnik)
Subject: Re: TypeSMITH announcement
Organization: Informatik Club d. Universitaet, Zuerich
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:42:16 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.220017.12378@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> rcj2@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (ray.c.jender) writes:
>In article <20054@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> soft-logik@cup.portal.com writes:
>>
>>-- PRESS RELEASE ---                            December 4, 1992
>>TYPESMITH - The Professional Amiga Outline Font Editor
>> .......
>>allows you to open PostScript Type 1, Compugraphic Intellifont and
>>Soft-Logik DMF Outline fonts. 
>>.....
>	What about FC II format? Would be REAL nice to be able to
>	convert the above to the format that FC uses.....

What about FC II using the standard CG Font format?

bye
  Matija

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From: uccxmcl@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Wanted: Driver for PJ-1080A
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:47:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.1992Dec11.194752.1
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center

I don't know if this post went the way of the dodo
before, but it dindn't show up on our local news
server, so I thought I'd repost.  What I am searching
for is a printer driver for a Canon PJ-1080A for
workbench 2.X.  I lost my driver for it when I upgraded
OS.  Any ideas?


-Matthew Link		uccxmcl@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
 
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:18721 comp.sys.amiga.emulations:5556
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:21:12 EST
From: <ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: HELP!!! validating HD
 <1992Dec14.142211.7855@unibi.hrz.uni-bielefeld.de>
 <92352.145900TPATTERS@ESTEC.BITNET>

>How about Disk Doctor?
You definitely DON'T want to use disk doctor on a hard drive.  Next time I
mess up some validation bits I will try DiskFix.  Although it seems to be
similar to disk doctor, I am hoping that it will do what I want, which is to
rewrite certain a certain key bit without trying to recover every file I
ever put on the drive. It might or might not work, I hope I don't get to test
it for a while.
  There sure would be alot of demand for a pd program to fix up an unvalidated
hard drive. (mega-hint)
  Anthony Beecher
From: pdietz@cse.unl.edu (Phil Dietz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Registered for LhA; never got a reply!
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:52:56 GMT
Organization: NCEMRSoft
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cse.unl.edu

jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid) writes:

>"Stefan Berg" <sgberg@blueberry.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>I can confirm that Stefan _Bo_berg is sending out registered versions
>(funny about the similarity of your names...)  A fellow on GEnie says he
>just got his, but that it took *2 months* for the mail to get from Sweden
>to the U.S.  It seems Stefan is sending things by sea mail (it's much
>cheaper).

Please....sea mail!!!?

It costs a lousy US buck to mail from here to Germany.  I'm sure he has received
plenty of ten's and twenty's to offset this dollar expense.

This cheapness has allways annoyed me.  For the record: an update ==
.35 cent disk (MEI), a mailer (25 for 1.25), and a trip to the post office
(stamp price ranging from .30 to 1.35)....for a total of 1.40 to mail an
oversea air-mail disk.  .70 for a US/Canada mailing.....

Updates are cheap.

Phil

* I mail free updates for every new version to every person....
   and I'm still way ahead.

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              one on TV!                          University Of Nebraska
From: Prolific@cup.portal.com (Jeff R Lindstrom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Postscript drivers.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 01:21:04 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

  A Postscript driver is included in AmigaDOS V2.1.  Other than that, I have
only seen a PostScript interpreter (POST17B.LZH) and commercial files such
as the one that comes with PageStream.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: bevis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Bevis)
Subject: Re: Snapshot (was Re: ENHANCEMENTS: C= Please consider this)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 05:09:17 GMT

In article <hebrais.0yb6@mirkwood.CAM.ORG> hebrais@mirkwood.CAM.ORG (Philippe Hebrais) writes:
>I have only two gripes about the amiga's icons and windows.  Like
>many other Amiga users, I dislike the Macs handling of icons.  I like

No kidding!  Have you ever used the Mac's "clean up" option to rearrange
icons in a window.  I liken this option to a "devastate window" function.
I've never seen it bring order to a window.  In fact, it usually takes
a window full of non-overlapping objects and causes them to overlap in 
an erratic, confusing and displeasing way.  It's so good at it, too.
Neat.  :-)

-bevis

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From: Bish@xanodria.UUCP (Doug Bischoff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: A4000 upgrade from A3000?
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Dec 92 20:45:37 EST
Organization: Xanodria

    I've heard several people mention "upgrading my A3000 to an A4000."
What does one have to do to do this?  How much does it cost?  What about all
that stuff I've got on my HD?  Who do I contact (presumably CBM)?

    Please EMail answers 'cause I don't get this newsgroup regularly.
    Thanks!

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From: rdixon@pentagon-gw.army.mil (Roger Dixon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: No Amiga in New Media Multimedia Tool Guide
Summary: NEW Media use to cover Amiga
Date: 9 Dec 92 11:44:14 GMT
Organization: U.S. Army Artificial Intelligence Center, The Pentagon

In article <1992Dec4.141130.2598@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> kickstart@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
>> Perhaps NEW MEDIA is not aware just how many Multimedia users own
>> and respect Amiga product for their diverse uses?  And . . . perhaps it
>> would be beneficial for NEW MEDIA to have our users tell them about
>> Amiga and its Multimedia capabilities.
>
>[deleted]
>
>> Read all administrative posts before putting your post up.  Mailing
>> list: announce-request@cs.ucdavis.edu.  Comments to zerkle@cs.ucdavis.edu.
>> MAIL ALL COMP.SYS.AMIGA.ANNOUNCE ANNOUNCEMENTS TO announce@cs.ucdavis.edu.
>
>No offense, but why the heck should Amiga users do the job that Commodore
>marketing isn't???
>


If you look at the early issues of NEW MEDIA, they use to cover the Amiga in
great detail in each issue.  Haven`t seen much coverage recently though.


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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re:   Disk validating in 2.0 ??
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Dec 92 04:31:40 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <Bz0yoE.Gz2@NeoSoft.com> peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <root.035r@rkamiga.UUCP> root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>> >Also, how do I find how many bad sectors my SCSI drive has invisibly fixed
>> >for me?
>
>> There are 2 bad sector lists on a SCSI disk.  One is the Factory Defect List,
>> which the SCSI format command uses by default, and the other is the Grown
>> Defect List, which is bad sectors that have been removed during operation.
>
>> A simple SCSI command can return a structure that contains either of the
>> lists.
>
>And what is the standard utility shipped with the system that lets me look
>at these lists?
>
>I know, it's a cheap shot, and I didn't get one for UNIX from Intel either,
>and it hosed me there too, but the Amiga really needs to provide these tools
>more than UNIX does: if you're depending on a bunch of UNIX systems you usually
>have a tame wizard to get you out of jams like this.

Since accessing SCSI drive defect lists isn't well defined by the ANSI SCSI
spec, the best you can expect is that the data will be accessible from the
same MODESELECT page across all SCSI drives, but the MODESELECT page bytes 
will be different. :-(

So you get a manual for the drive and hack.


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		think!unixland!rmkhome!rkamiga!root
From: bubblz@ecst.csuchico.edu (Boy Wonder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Dismounting a Device?
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:14:25 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: bolger.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <1gicdnINNijs@rs1.rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE> ad010@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Wilhelm Stiefelhagen) writes:
>
>I do not remeber 1.3, but with 2.04 you can use assign:
>example assign mo0: dismount
>will dismount my Magnetooptical drive. 
>(Ask with assign ?, if the 1.3 assign allows that.)
>The manual tells something like: Do not use it, unless you are a 
>programmer and knowing what you are doing.
>So I used it only a few times (but without problems) when testing
>a new edited mountlist without willing to reboot after every correction.
>
Yup.  That seems to be the general consensus, only under 1.3 the syntax is:
assign <device>: remove
I can't see any reason to not use it.  You'd have to be REAL stupid to mess
anything up by re-assigning a device.  Maybe something like:
assign SYS: NULL: :-)

Well, thanks for the input everyone.  (even the people who told me I 
was insane for using messydos, and should use multidos instead)

-Jason
From: petter@pnilsen.adsp.sub.org (Petter Nilsen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: What's the story on CPUBlit & 3.0?
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:14:57 GMT
Reply-To: cbmehq!cbmnor!pnilsen!petter@cbmvax.commodore.com
Organization: Ultima Thule Software
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <OD.6BadNetOA92-901-231p0_55427da8@piraya.bad.se> Mike_Noreen@anet.bbs.bad.se (Mike Noreen) writes:
> Does anybody know if there is a AmigaDOS 3.0 version of CPUBlit? It doesn't
> seem to do its thing under 3.0...

'cpublit -b' will do the trick..

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From: cs_e445@ceres (Vlod Kalicun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: MAC2Amiga / Amiga2MAC
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:49:36 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ceres.kingston.ac.uk
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

khm@powell.cs.jt.dk (Kurt Hangaard Marcussen) writes:
: alex@lamarck.lif.icnet.uk (Alex Whittaker <alex@biu.icnet.uk>) writes:
: 
: 
: >  This probably lies on a FAQ sheet somewhere, but can anyone tell me where I can
: > get a MAC utility to write data to Amiga format disks, or get an Amiga program
: > (less preferable) to read MAC format disks..
: 
: >  thanks in advance.
: 
: >  ..alex
: 
: > Direct e-mail prefered
: 
: Hi Alex
: 
: I would advise you to use MS-DOS format as the xfer format. There
: is a utility for the Mac that reads/writes MS-DOS disks - I think
: it comes with the installation package. On the Amiga you can use

The program you are refering to is I think called 'Apple File Exchange'
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin Black)
Subject: Re: WB 2.1 problems...
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:27:39 GMT

tcampbel@unlinfo.unl.edu (thomas campbell) writes:

>I just upgraded from WB 2.0 to 2.1, and I ran into a few problems:
> 
>When I boot, several lines are printed on the CLI window:
> 
>EXECUTE: Can't open T:M
>object not found
> 
>Also, I use VirusZ and an overscan screen.  When booting, the system 
>doesn't get a chance to change from a 'normal' to an overscan screen 
>before the user-startup is executed.  I've tried moving the location 
>of the user-startup execution within startup-sequence, and I've tried 
>putting waits before VirusZ is executed.  Is there a solution?  I'd 
>like to be able to run VirusZ automagically instead of having to do it
>manually.

Well make sure you put on every command executed in your startup-seq and
user-startup a >nil: so nothing gets displayed.
Something new is in the 2.1, that makes it so if there is never any
output to your first screen, ie intro screen, then the screen won't
show up, instead the workbench screens is the first and only window
that opens.

Martin


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: dcr3567@ultb.isc.rit.edu (D.C. Richardson)
Subject: Programming PC/Amiga serial ports
Originator: dcr3567@ultb
Reply-To: dcr3567@ultb.rit.edu ()
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:17:44 GMT


Howdy Net_Folk,

I'm currently working on a project that will connect an IBM PS/2 mod 80 
to a Unimate PUMA robot controller.  This project consists of replacing
the controllers' aging floppy disk drive with the mass storage of the PC.

For it to work, the controller sends out data at 2400,n,8,1 to the disk
drive.  I.E: To write, the controller sends an 01 W 04, the floppy responds
with a Ctrl-p, the controller sends a 01 <filename> 04, floppy sends ctrl-p,
then the controller sends data, in 256 byte blocks, with a checksum, to the
floppy.

Easy, eh?  It's all quite well documnted, too.

The problem comes in here: I can't seem to find a reference for the PC that
will explain in more than 6 lines how to access the COM1: port.  I have
only been successful in opening the port, trapping I/O, and telling
the user at the PC that data is incoming.  I have not been able to 
read or print that data.

I think what is happening is that the PC is expecting a CR/LF, which the 
controller isn't sending (never does).

I'm currently working in QBasic (it's easiest), but have at my disposal
Micorsoft C 6.0, QuickC for Windows, ProComm For windows & UltraCom[?]
(For their inherent Serial & scripting abilities), as well as my own 
Amiga 4000 (for Arexx and/or VLT use).

This is for an independent study robotics course I'm taking. Let it be
known that its been a few years since I've delved into Turbo Pascal, 
know miniscule C, and hate PC's I/O functions...

               - - - - H E L P ! ! ! - - - -
Thanks,
Daniel Richardson
RIT - Robotics/Mechanical Engineering

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc