HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: marti@granit.unice.fr (Marti Philippe)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: The attitude, get it. (WAS Re: Question..)
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:47:52 GMT
Organization: University of Nice - Sophia Antipolis
NNTP-Posting-Host: granit.unice.fr

In article <1992Dec14.094809.8606@ulrik.uio.no>, tokristo@thoasuio.no 
(Tore Kristoffersen) writes:
|> 
|>    I am from Norway so I don't think I'm quite updated
|> on the term you call Cyberpunk. 

I think that the word CP is exactly what is was aimed for: A really big mess

|> How can anyone call themselves
|> cyberpunks in our society?  In our low tech world I can't 
|> imagen that enyone can live up to  for instance Gibson's
|> society in Neuromancer.

I agree completely but...
Do you think that people described by Gibson 
can live up to Neuromancer's society ? 
I think they only survive...

|> I've got the impression that what we before
|> called hackers now are cyberpunks with an attitude. 

IMHO, I have the impression that hackers with an attitude are Wilsons.
(c.f. Count Zero)

|> Well I aint
|> quite updatede on the term so .....

It's not a bad thing, you know...
There is more interesting concepts to be updated to. ;)
I am not saying that for you. Your post is really interesting because it
could generates a lot of reflexions and remarks about the CP attitude.

I think that controlling his own destiny and future is a thing, but trying to get
a CP attitude just to have the feeling to live according to Gibson's books is a
behaviour of fans. Like most of the readers impressed by Neuromancer, I used to
be in the I_am_Case mood and I continue to wish that such a world will occur but
I want to live with my time instead of being a "wanna looks like a man of the
future".

I think we reach one of the big problem in our society: 
***************  WE PREFER TO LOOK THAN TO BE  *********************
IMHO, The sentence "Cyberpunk, the attitude, get it" that I read in Mondo 2000 is
an horrible mistake.
I would prefer to read:
"Cyberpunk, the way of life, be prepared to it"
or
"Cyberpunk, the attitude, reject it"

I think it's really easy to LOOK like a Cyberpunk but I don't wish my worst enemy
to BE a Cyberpunk.

Bien sincerement,
Philippe.
-- 
Xref: sparky alt.cyberpunk:6754 sci.electronics:21159
From: kucloak@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu (Bryan Kennedy Reed)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: Caller ID block?
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:08:48 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Dec17.163858.27423@lunatix.uucp>, chelf@lunatix.uucp (Chad Helfenberger) writes:
> 
> If Calling-#-ID is not ruled unconstitutional (which it IS), then there must 
> be some sort of protocol which will be followed by called parties and 
> calling parties.  WHY in the HELL would you want to give out your number to 
> anyone you called?  Why don't you Caller ID freaks put yourself on the other 
> end of the line for a minute.
> 
>
Are you saying that Caller ID is unconstitutional?  If so, then why,
praytell, do you think it is?  One is not forced to reveal one's phone
number; a touch of a couple buttons and the ID is blocked.  No one is
being forced to do anything.


> Chad Helfenberger
> (chelf@lunatix.uucp) 
-- 
		
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
  Invincibility depends on one's self;	   kucloak@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
  The enemy's vulnerability on him.	    bkreed@oread.cc.ukans.edu
 		  --Sun Tzu 		      Bryan Kennedy Reed
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: chelf@lunatix.uucp (Chad Helfenberger)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Caller ID block?
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:32:36 GMT
Organization: Lexington Public Access Unix. -KY- (606) 255-9121

In article <28696@oasys.dt.navy.mil> curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch) writes:
>In sci.electronics, chelf@lunatix.uucp (Chad Helfenberger) writes:
>>WHY in the HELL would you want to give out your number to
>>anyone you called?
>
>Lets try to cool down here.  This is turning into an abortion
>argument.  There is no right or wrong here.  Just like with the
>abortion issue, no amount of analogies will prove either postion to be
>right or wrong, and arguing your position is not likley to make someone
>change their stand on this issue.

No problem.  I'm on ice now.  I apologize for my childishness..

>Caller ID obviosly does two things.  When someone calls you, it gives
>you information you couldn't get before - This is good.  When you call
>someone else, the system gives out priviate information whether you
>want it to or not - this is bad.  There have been lots of intersting
>thoughts in this thread about the good and bad issues of this, but each
>of us will end up deciding for ourselfs if the good outweighs the bad.
>Obviously, the people that like Caller ID think it does, the people
>that don't like Caller ID think it doesn't.  Neither is right or
>wrong.

I agree.  Sometimes I'm an ass.  

>The Caller ID freaks obviosly have though about what happens when they
>And all you (me included) Caller ID freaks that are trying to convence
>people like Chad that Caller ID is "good" - give it up.  Just accept
>(and respect) the fact that he feels differently about the subject.
>

It's possible to convince me that Caller ID is good, but I have yet to hear 
an argument that will do so. 

-- 
Chad Helfenberger
(chelf@lunatix.uucp) 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: psrjd@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: Caller ID block...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Alaska, Anchorage
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:20:00 GMT

In article <1gqpnpINNgh9@agate.berkeley.edu>, c60b-3fw@e260-2b.berkeley.edu (Jason Swierk) writes...
>but as long as your phone is plugged in, you have agreed to be bothered by
>phone calls.
> 
>jason

Unfortunately, that is wrong.  See you local statutes about "Harrassment",
particularly prank calls.

As far as having my phone plugged in, I pay to be able to call out, and to have 
those who _I_ give my phone number to be able to call me.  No where is it
mentioned that I MUST answer my calls OR that I MUST tolerate some asshole
trying to sell me something.
From: egret@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: From CyberDen
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 05:52:14 PST
Organization: Indescribable Creations

This is from CyberDen

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N            [ egret@cyberden.uucp ]
From: peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter Merholz)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Anybody seen CYBER SEX mag?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 08:19:28 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

From the mindset that brought techno-philes MONDO 2000 now comes CYBER SEX,
a magazine about computers and sex that seems like it probably won't last
for long, 'cause there really ain't that much material out there...

Anyway, I just wanted to see what others felt about this new, Bay
Area-originated (of course) mag...

--Peter M.

-- 
*****************************************************************************
Peter Merholz			*   MY GOD  * "Good thing we were wearing our
Research Assistant/		*    WHAT   *  extra thick socks."
  Undergraduate F*ck-up		*   HAVE I  *  -Dangermouse, after falling 
UC Berkeley			*   DONE?!  *   off a cliff.
*****************************************************************************
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: bmyers@well.sf.ca.us (Bryan L. Myers)
Subject: WELL account
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:19:12 GMT


To obtain an account on the WELL, telnet well.sf.ca.us and type
"newuser" and it will work you thru the necessary details.
Unfortunately, it costs to have an account.  It's $14 per month
plus $2 per hour of useage.  In my opinion though it's worth it
as it has tons of info beyond that of USENET.  If any trouble
is encountered, e-mail me. Sincerely, TeknoThor (bmyers@well.sf.ca.us)
12.14.92
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: harter@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (HARTER  HOLLY ANN)
Subject: question about the Well
Keywords: question about the well
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 09:14:41 GMT

does any know how to get an account on the Well?
If so please respond or email me at:
slackb@ucsu.colorado.edu
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center
Date: Monday, 14 Dec 1992 14:01:07 EST
From: <DANGC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject:    Re: Caller ID block?

I seem to remember reading somewhere that when the telephone switching
system was put in place (replacing operators with computers) that one
of the major public policy issues is that you would no longer know who
was calling you (since "Mabel", the operator had to plug both of you
into the switchboard).

Funny how the more things change, the more they stay the same.

BTW, IMHO the right thing is to be identified.  Unlisted numbers
should all be posted!

ciao,
danny choriki
*****************************************************************8
dac@aquila.gc.cuny.edu
cuny graduate school
ny ny
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (man without a conscious)
Subject: Re: Correct use of terms..
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 03:03:04 GMT

Somewhere in Cyberspace, nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu said about 'Correct use of terms..':
|In article <1992Dec6.120920.5238@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, mfreund@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark W Freund) writes:
|> In article <VRDBVB1w165w@entropy.mcds.com> morpheus@entropy.mcds.com writes:
|>>I violently disagree that copying a piece of commercial software alone makes
|>>one a hacker or a cyberpunk.
|>>
|>>
|>>morpheus@entropy.mcds.com ("morph")   |   A name changes toys into tools..
|>>Obsolete diety for hire.  Cheap.      |          - Skinny Puppy
|> 
|> 
|> Pu-leeze, when refering to pirates use the tern Cracker, not hacker. There
|> is a big difference!
|> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
|> = mfreund@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu	Ozy+@osu.edu  =
|> - Do you want friends? Do you want a social life?     -
|> = Well, for the low cost of $99.99 you too can have   =
|> - people who pretend to be your friends!              -
|> = Join a frat today and we'll even throw in some beer!=
|> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
|
|Sounds like someone should dreadge up a old file dictionary of terms
|and define what a cracker, hacker, or a cyberpunk is..Someone is confused..

We all are...Noone is the landlord of the wisdom-corner in these
regards... 

It all depends how old you are, or what your attitude is, how long
you've been telecommunicating virtually, what books you've read, what
USEnet forums you read, etc.....

I could easily start a huge flame war by posting my definitions and
letting the net respond.....


--

    ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu	        FutureCulture:  In/f0rmation
    ahawks@mindvox.phantom.com		future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu

Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: gpeel@mta.ca
Subject: Re: getting a life
Reply-To: gpeel@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:03:42 GMT

In article <1gaug3INNotj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, an127@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
 (Korac MacArthur) writes:
>
>In a previous article, gpeel@mta.ca () says:
>
>> To all of the repressed nerds, I have carefully sifted through this trash 
>>and have come to the conclusion that all of you need serious psychological 
>>treatment or try getting ount in the real world. In short get a fucking life!
>>
>	I know,   William Shatner says this in an old Saturday Night
>Live!   Who says we need a fucking life, we have trivial pursuit (one and
>the same?)!
>
>	don't you worry about it peel old bean, the world will still
>turn tomorrow, even with us "repressed nerds" on board.   Stereotypes
>can be hazardous to your health.
>
>-- 
>Hey, George.....Nah na na na, NA NA NA NA,  HEEEY   HEYYY HEY,
>GOOOOOODDDDBYYYEEEE!!!!!!   (and good riddance)
>

	Well it's nice to see someone reply to my message. By the way
Korac (what kind of name is that anyway) my name is not George, I thought all
 of you Cyber-punks spent all of your time on your computer not watching T.V?
 
	But onto something new, I've had a look at this work called Agrippa and
 I have to admit it sucks shit, it's just a bunch of repetative trash! 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: hagbard@gagme.chi.il.us (Brian W. Dunn)
Subject: 2600 subscription rate
Originator: hagbard@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:14:05 GMT

So what is the subscription rate for a year of 2600?
I've heard $18 and $21...anybody know for sure?
-hagbard

-- 
If you did it and lived, then you probably did it right.
-hagbard@gagme.chi.il.us-
Xref: sparky alt.cyberpunk:6628 alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo:812 alt.cyberpunk.movement:394
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo,alt.cyberpunk.movement
Subject: Re: Gibsons "electronic book", 8th december = password?, URGENT
From: dnicol@cstp.umkc.edu
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:54:37 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: UM - Kansas City, Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax2.cstp.umkc.edu



I heard a bit about Agrippa on NPR's All Thing's Considered...  They said
that the thing is programmed to ERASE after it is read once.  And they
were interviewing Penn Gilette (of Penn and Teller -- the one who talks)
because he was to (or just had -- DK) read a copy of it out loud on stage.

They were theorizing that someone in the audience at such an event would
transcribe their secret tape recording of it back onto electronic media.

They also summarized it -- it is about going through family memoribilia in
an attic, the kind of real things that are so old they fall apart when you
turn the pages, and your personal life isn't well-enough endowed to take
them to a vacuum laboratory and have them laminated or something :-)  and
Mr Gibson's own hyper-sensitive suspicions about his great-grandfather planning
that he should be a writer or something.

Did anyone else hear that on All Things Considered?  Did anyone ...  go to
a reading with a cassette recorder?

Spreading what gossip I have,
Dave Nicol
Dnicol@vax1.umkc.edu
From: rand@smartstar.com (Rand McKinney)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Snow Crash
Summary: Review of Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:01:04 GMT
Organization: SmartStar Corp. / Signal Technolgy Inc.

"Snow Crash" by Neal Stephenson, (Bantam, June 1992) is a novel that
takes Cyberpunk in some new directions. While building on Gibson,
it is not totally derivative as many recent books have been.
Stephenson--unlike Gibson--apparently knows something about computers,
and in fact is a hacker.  While his writing is not as finely crafted as
Gibson's, and can sometimes seem slapdash, his characters and settings are
well-developed.  At times, the story can bog down in long explanations
and expositions on Sumerian mythology (quite pertinent to the story, actually),
there is plenty of shoot-em-up action, both in reality and in the Metaverse,
Stephenson's version of the Matrix/Net/Virtual Universe.
Stephenson's style is a cross between Gibson, Thomas Pynchon, and Harry
Harrison, with lots of cool future slang thrown in. 

The two main characters are Hiro Protagonist, katana swordfighter
and hacker extraordinaire and his partner, Y.T., a tough 15-year old female
skateboard "Kourier".  Stephenson's archaic future is one in which the US 
has been splintered into thousands of soverign "franchulates" such as Mr. Lee's 
Greater Hong Kong, Cosa Nostra Pizza (the Mafia), and Fedland (what's left
of the US government).  Everything is controlled by corporations, and the
line between governments and corporations has essentially disappeared.
Hiro makes a living collecting intelligence for the
Central Intelligence Corporation, and encounters a particularly nasty new
virus that is taking out the best and brightest hackers by the droves.
He discovers a vast, pervasive and rather unlikely conspiracy combining
religion, viruses (computer and biological), and the drug Snow Crash, 
that leads to a long chase/mystery-unravelling,
and the story's denoument almost simultaneously in reality and the Metaverse.

On the whole the book was entertaining and readable, if a bit hard to swallow
at times.  Stephenson relies a bit too much on deus-ex-machina (pardon the pun) to develop and resolve the story.  But if you can suspend disbelief of 
certain coincidences, the depiction of future techology (e.g. the Net) 
is excellent.  IMHO--A fine addition to the cyberpunk canon.

Anybody else read the book?  Other opinions?

-Rand
rand@smartstar.com

P.S. Sorry if this has already been discussed--haven't followed alt.cp 
in a while.
From: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Caller ID block?
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:06:01 GMT
Reply-To: curt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Curt Welch)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.cyberpunk, dmoye@bnr.ca (Herb Tucker P920) writes:
>Hey, I have an interesting question...  To all of you out there who have CID
>up and running, how does it (or does it) handle call-waiting?  Does the person
>you're talking to's number go away, and the new one appear, or do you not get
>any info on the waiting call, or what??  Any help would be appreciated.

I haven't tried it, but I'm sure you just don't get any info if you answer
the phone without hanging up.  If you hang up and let it ring after getting
the tone, I bet you do get the number of the second line.  I'll try it
and see what happens.

I also want to test this concept of getting voice on the line before picking
up.  I'll test that tonight also.

Curt
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: ikuz@cs.vu.nl (Kuz I)
Subject: Re: CyberTrendies - Mondo 2000, etc..
Keywords: What is Cyberpunk?
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 11:17:03 GMT

ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (your unconscious mind) writes:

>Somewhere in Cyberspace, ikuz@cs.vu.nl said about 'CyberTrendies -
>Mondo 2000, etc..': 

>|Well I suppose this doesn't have that much to do with Mondo 2000 or 
>|CyberTrendies - too bad. One more question: Is it actually possible to be a 
>|Cyberpunk now ( ie 1992/3) or does being a Cyberpunk just mean that you happen
>|to live in that kind of a society?

>What do *you* think? 

>|		Ihor.

>--

>    ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu	        FutureCulture:  In/f0rmation
>    ahawks@mindvox.phantom.com		future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu

Well for me Cyberpunk is a description of the future so it wouldn't
be possible for someone to be a Cyberpunk ( just a fan of Cyberpunk ).
I realise though that other people also consider Cyberpunk to be a sort 
of subculture and in that case if you're into that then you're a 
Cyberpunk.

	Ihor.
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: carlsoje@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Joel E. Carlson 1625773)
Subject: Re: Agrippa
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 09:49:43 GMT

In article <18474@mindlink.bc.ca> Clayten_Hamacher@mindlink.bc.ca (Clayten Hamacher) writes:
>>Correct me if I am wrong, but will not such self-erasing works become a
>>necessity on an electronic medium in order for artists to earn their daily
>>bread? Think about it: if information can be replicated and distributed at
>>zero cost, all knowledge loses its economic value as soon as it is released.
>>
>> Bob Hall
>
>If I buy a book I want to be able to read it over and over again through the
>years if it is good enough. A book isn't worth much if you can only read it
>once, especially if you need to keep on reading at a set pace.
>
>Sure, maybe SOMETHING needs to be done so artists can get paid but it's been
>like this with paper books for a long time... A scanner and OCR software and
>you can have an entire novel in electronic form as fast as you can shove the
>pages in. With the number of scanners now it's not availability that's
>stopping people, rather it's lack of desire, and that's something that will
>exist regardless of the media.
>
>

You have a valid economic objection but you have missed the point
entirely.  Agrippa is like a waterfall, the time you loose your
virginity, first time illegaly on another system; a storm, a fractal, an
internet worm.  The Agrippa is a piece of work that can only be lived
once, only read once.  That's the beauty of it all.  It's succient
lifetime is pure poetry.  You just can't put it in your pocket or on
your bookshelf.  You only get one life; you only allowed one read! 

+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
Joel Carlson				|  History, read it and weep!
carlsoje@cda.mrs.umn.edu        	| 
carlsoje@nxsci173a.mrs.umn.edu - NeXT   |
University of Minnesota, Morris         |  Kurt Vonnegut
+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
From: cardell@lysator.liu.se (Mikael Cardell)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: CyberTrendies - Mondo 2000, etc..
Date: 12 Dec 92 10:55:08 GMT
Organization: Lysator Computer Society, Link|ping University, Sweden

I do believe that there are a lot of people trying to earn some undeserved
monetarian units out of the concept cyberpunk, but that doesn't mean
that there isn't a Real Movement underneath. This movement is perhaps
just called cyberpunk by some while cyberpunk to others is just a
literature genre, but regardless what you call this movement it *is*
there. 

One can argue ad infinitum what the origins of this movement, or
culture, is and the only thing that is for sure is that there are
people out there considering themselves a part of this very culture.
I once considered myself a punk rocker, a member of the band Sperm
Sisters here in Sweden, but I don't know if that gives me any rights
to call myself a *cyber*punk just because I'm a lot into computers as
well. To be frank, I don't even care, but I do care about this
evolving culture and that I'm a part of it.
--
mikael cardell <cardell@lysator.liu.se>

          S P U N K  P R E S S
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: gpeel@mta.ca
Subject: Re: GET A LIFE; FREAKS; NEW IDEA
Reply-To: gpeel@mta.ca
Organization: Mount Allison U, Sackville, N.B. Canada 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:01:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.014231.1869@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (E) writes:
>Somewhere in Cyberspace, SMCMILLN@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU said about 'GET
>A LIFE; FREAKS; NEW IDEA': 
>|In article <1992Dec14.224512.103@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>
>|gpeel@mta.ca writes:
>| 
>|>
>|>        It's Mt.A not MAT butt-head.
>| 
>|Oh! Butt-head! It appears I've hurt the feeelings of a little neo-
>|nazi freak. So what was your toilet training like? How do you
>|feel about your mother?
>|                                        -- St. Morphine
>
>If you do not lower your defenses nothing can get accomplished.
>Please take your flames to email, you're wasting time and money.
>
>--
>
>    ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu	        FutureCulture:  In/f0rmation
>    ahawks@mindvox.phantom.com		future-request@nyx.cs.du.edu
>


		 may be wasting time, but my school covers the cost of the 
networking. 
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk
From: schuyler@acf9.nyu.edu (Gabriel M. Schuyler)
Subject: Re: Information America (Re: Caller ID block?)
Organization: New York University
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 09:23:56 GMT

BrianW@SoundS.WA.com (Brian Willoughby) writes:
>I read an article in Mondo 2000 describing this service.  Sounded a bit like  
>near-fiction (Mondo would never print anything but the exact truth, right? :-)

>But the real question is whether anyone knows how to access this service.  I'd  
>Let's get some real cyberpunk action: tell me how to access this database...

Phrack says it's on tymnet somewhere, and I think all the info's in
phrack-37, but don't quote me on that.

-Gabe
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk