From: pgheit01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.vw
Subject: Re: Timing without timing marks??
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:28:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: ulkyvx.1992Oct5.152805.1
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Oct5.170026.17709@noao.edu>, lytle@noao.edu (Dyer Lytle  CCS) writes:
> 
> 
> Greetings,
> 
> These discussions about how to time your VW with an 009 distributor have got
> me wondering whether I've got my 72 campmobile timed right.  It has an 009.
> It also has good compression but not much power. (I bought it very USED.)
> 
> There are all sorts of grooves, paint marks, dings etc. around the perimeter
> of my fan/pully where the timing mark is supposed to be and the only mark
> that looks like an 'official' timing mark is quite a distance away from
> the timing scale when the #1 sparkplug fires (like 40 degrees).
> 
> Is there a way to estimate the timing without using the timing marks?
> If I have the engine running and rotate the distributor I can get the idle
> to increase dramatically from where it is currently timed.  Does the
> idle speed indicate anything about timing?  I guess I could just try
> setting the timing at different places and road test the vehicle each
> time, anybody know if this would cause problems??
> 
> Thankyou for any information!
> 
>  -Dyer
> 
> 
> -- 
> Dyer Lytle, National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, 602-323-4136
> Internet: lytle@noao.edu        SPAN: NOAO::LYTLE (NOAO=5355) 

On the type IV engines in the '72 and up bus, there should be a small white
quarter circle around the upper left part of the pulley.  If you look in the
Haynes or Bentley manuals, you will see what I'm talking about.  Unfortunately
for me, my '77 bus had oily dirt all over the ring.  When I went to wipe it
off, all the paint came with it.  So I timed it by ear for a while.  

Later I took the ring off.  When I looked at it at the right angle in good
light, I could just barely make out the hash marks.  The numbers were fuzzy,
but I saw a couple and noticed that they were in 4 degree increments.  That
made it easy.  I just swiped my little brother's model paints and put the
numbers back on.  That will hold me for a while.  Maybe you could do something
like that.  I did notice that the numbers in the manuals were for something
other than my 2.0 liter motor.  

I also have a 1700 motor from a 914 Porsche.  It has notches in the pulley
which line up with a line up with a notch in the fan shroud.  These notches are
visible by removing a plastic cap above the pulley.

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From: jayj@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Jay Johannes)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:25:07 GMT
Subject: Re: Oil pressure warning system - 84 GTI
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO