HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cluther@morticia.cnns.unt.edu (Clay Luther)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: BMW Flashbacks
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:05:45 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas

Since static software systems rarely generate spontaneous errors, would someone
send me the headers from the next batch of "repeated" messages?

The non-sequitor there implies that I am looking for a faulty system out there
in WonderNetLand.

-- 
Clay Luther
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From: Rick Jones <albert@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu>
Subject: Re: The Explosive Death of Selina
X-Gated-By: The Black Marble Wombat@morticia.cnns.unt.edu
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:00:09 GMT

> *Nice* use of a martyr.  Sounds like your players pulled this one off
> really well.  Considering that casting on the fly probably would have
> done more damage than the explosion, this worked out really nicely.
> Was it all the player's idea, or did you help out some, Rick?

	Well, he said, "I want to take out the FBW's."  So I told him
"Um, how about..." He said "sure," and she went up like a 4th of July Fireworks
show.

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From: smooge@jupiter.nmt.edu (Stephen Smoogen)
Subject: TORGmush
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:07:37 GMT


Hi I was booted from the list when the definate date of TORGmush being online
was posted... could someone give me the address to it... with Godnet down
and my work computer in the shop.. I am kind of bored <<snif..snif>> :)

the Smooge
(aka Soren the Heretic Hellion Mage)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: Rick Jones <albert@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu>
Subject: Re:  The Explosive Death of Selina
X-Gated-By: The Black Marble Wombat@morticia.cnns.unt.edu
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:57:34 GMT

> Well, sounds like things worked well enough I won't point out that you
> can't trade Subplot cards, you either activate them or trade them in
> for a PP when you draw them....

	Well, I'm pretty loose when it comes to card play.  I 
don't make you play all the cards for your critical act, either,
nor do I make players 'role-play' card exchange.

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From: cl314407@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: TORG online....
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:51:23 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville



	Hey folks!  Wouldst any of you lordlings know of any TORG activity
live-wise??  Say BBS or on any of the major services?

				Tom (CL314407@ulkyvx.louisville.edu)
From: usenet@transfer.stratus.com (Mr. Network News)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re: Creatures of Tharkold
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:16:56 GMT
Reply-To: Dave_Wetzel@vos.stratus.com
Organization: Dave_Wetzel

In article <gatemail1.0b232113537131@morticia> jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (Ks. 
Jim) writes:
> Anyone else contribute?

I actually wrote up three.  First was Alph Wolf, probably least orginal; 
could almost be C.E.  Second: Fledgling AI, a hacker's net-search program 
gone bad.  Third: Neuraxon Leech, a leech that feeds off pain.

I'll also post them to the list if they don't get accepted.

--------------
Dave_Wetzel@vos.stratus.com
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: alix@solwarra.gbrmpa.gov.au (Alix Walker )
Subject: Re: Stationary or wandering?
X-Gated-By: The Black Marble Wombat@morticia.cnns.unt.edu
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Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 13:58:10 GMT

> My players are finally going to be sitting down and coming up with a plan
> for what they want to do instead of having me lead them around by the
> nosehairs and one of the things they are looking at is (finally)
> setting up a base of operations.  I was wondering how many other Torg
> groups have an established base of operations and how many just wander
> around the world like my players used to do.
> 
I'm in two games, one where we go all over the world, the other played
exclusively in the Nile. In the all over the world we've never had too
many problems about transport cause one of the players is a Megacorp
CEO (1 billion yen starting equip!!!). When we realized Operation
Central Fire was bigger than anything we could effect (not until after
a moral arguement lasting over 1 1/2 hours) the CEO even hired us a
Space Shuttle for a Moonraker style marine raid on the Firmament. After
that little stunt though he's pretty much strapped for cash, and dodging
assasination attempts left right and center. Plus business has been going
REALLY bad. Since the player has had another character for quite some
time, and the GM uses the CEO like an NPC I think we've seen the last
of our meal ticket.
I thought the advantage of going all over the world was interacting
under all the different world laws, but the disadvantage is that you
never make a lasting difference in the area, you never really pick
up friends, just "connections" or "campaign romances".
 In the other game we've just got ourselves a "secret base". Its at
an airfield run by two men shamelessly borrowed from the two guys
in Rocketeer. They form the backup or auxilary section of our group
called "Stormfront". It was great fun forming our base, we went back
to these two cause we'd met them in an earlier game after our weird
science helicopter ran out of fuel, and although our CE Soldier of
Fortune could fly it, he had no idea what it was powered by! They
we're quite impressed that we were "Stormfront", and after a
rousing speech (turned into a charm and persuasion rolls) they
threw in their lot with us. Now we operate out of the airfield
and its excellent to have some NPC's who you can really care about.

Anyway, to answer your original question, let the players do what
ever they want. If someone suggests a base there's enthusiasm, then
let it ride. I'm a GM too, and I pretty much let the players do
whatever they want, cause I play the game for them.

Winston (in a box with his own humble opinions)

Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: gt7219a@prism.gatech.edu (Christopher Michael Lawyer)
Subject: this is just a test
X-Gated-By: The Black Marble Wombat@morticia.cnns.unt.edu
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Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 23:16:29 GMT

This is my first post to this mailing list.  Please do not reality
storm me if it goes hideously wrong.

"We thank you for your support"
Bartles and James
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: michael@stb.info.com (Michael Gersten)
Subject: TORG online....
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Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 22:24:00 GMT

Begin forwarded message:

> 	Hey folks!  Wouldst any of you lordlings know of any TORG activity
> live-wise??  Say BBS or on any of the major services?

	There's at least one Torg play-by-email game, but I don't
know if the GM wants more vict-, I mean players.
---
Actually, I don't mind more players if you don't mind slow speed. This is  
my first PBeM game, and so far we've covered one scene, and about 1/2  
to 2/3 of one day.

(plus I've got one player who refuses to follow the script at all, and  
another one who'se making things a little harder. What was supposed to  
be a three (PC) on one (NPC) turned into two sets of continuing NPC's  
that I now have to flush out. Grr)
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From: oakes@jupiter.nmt.edu (David Oakes)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re:  Hints from Wu Han's Jounral
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:34:35 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas
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[atomic reality bomb deleted]

good idea, and yes, the atomic decay could provide enough energy
to transform all it encountered (a la the genesis device...)
but look at it from the other side as well:

the atomic bomb goes off, and the subsequent eternium explosion
allows all of that destructive force to be focused on the basic
building blocks of REALITY, as well as matter.
the axioms themeselves are torn to shreds, and all that is left is ... nothing.

sounds just like a DDs (ie - the nameless one) goal, doesnt it...

dave "be the first one on your block to own one!" oakes
From: albert@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Rick Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re: The Explosive Death of Selina
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:00:09 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas
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> *Nice* use of a martyr.  Sounds like your players pulled this one off
> really well.  Considering that casting on the fly probably would have
> done more damage than the explosion, this worked out really nicely.
> Was it all the player's idea, or did you help out some, Rick?

	Well, he said, "I want to take out the FBW's."  So I told him
"Um, how about..." He said "sure," and she went up like a 4th of July Fireworks
show.

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From: gt7219a@prism.gatech.edu (Christopher Michael Lawyer)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Magic question
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:06:27 GMT
Organization: University of North Texas
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I've played Torg since its creation and I'm just now starting to 
*run* it.  (Man o man is this an expensive game to run! 8)  Anyways,
I never played a mage (in Torg) so I'm trying to figure a few things 
out.  Let me preface the question by saying that I have the Torg
Rulebook and the Ayslish Sourcebook but not Pixaud's Practical
Grimoir.  

Now that I've gotten all of those nasty disclaimers out of the way...

Why do some spells like Bullet and Lightning have to beat the 
target's dodge and others like Altered Fireball and Weakness
do not?  Is there some part of the spell creation from the Aylish
SB that discribes this that I'm overlooking?  Do I need Pixaud's
to understand it?  Or maybe I've just disconnected or need to spend
a possibility or something.  8)

chris lawyer
"He disagreed with something that ate him."
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: "Colin J. Wynne"  <WYNNE.C@fs.sciences.WLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BMW flashbacks
X-Gated-By: The Black Marble Wombat@morticia.cnns.unt.edu
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Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 20:33:20 GMT

oakes@jupiter.nmt.edu (David Oakes) writes:

> is everybody else getting bulk repost blips,
> or is it just my (shoddy) system (again).

Yup.

CJW

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oakes@jupiter.nmt.edu (David Oakes) writes:

> is everybody else getting bulk repost blips,
> or is it just my (shoddy) system (again).

Yup.

CJW

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From: "Colin J. Wynne"  <WYNNE.C@fs.sciences.WLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Creatures of Tharkold
X-Gated-By: The Black Marble Wombat@morticia.cnns.unt.edu
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Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:51:00 GMT

Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim) <jogle@aoc.nrao.edu> writes:

> Maybe for the next creatures book (whatever it may be) we should
> get everyone to send something in and they can call it Creatures of
> the Mailing List....  8-)

Does that mean that everyone who buys it
will get three copies of it ?  |)

CJW

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From: gdavis@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Grant R. Davis)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re: Down Under Quests
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:21:36 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Aug11.213144.23887@gbrmpa.gov.au> alix@gbrmpa.gov.au (Alix Walker ) writes:

>1. How can an eternity shard be recharged with PPs, cause my SK's
>just keep on tapping them?

I let them do that once. BIG mistake. Don't let them recharge it themselves.
However, I made up an adventure where the Possibility Chalice had been drained,
so it had been put on display in a museum in London. As people came to see it
and hear about what it had done, it slowly refilled with possibilities. Of 
course, some techno-demons tried to steal it, and the adventure went from 
there. Thratchen was trying to take over CE's computers, but the players 
cast a miracle with an effect value way over 100 so that all Earth's computers
had 'virus protection' from the Techno-demons.

Grant Davis
gdavis@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

"This is good[beer]. Remind me to take this world."-Lost Destiny


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From: "James H. Kiley" <jkiley@andy.bgsu.edu>
Subject: Re: TORGmush
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:44:35 GMT



On Mon, 17 Aug 1992, Stephen Smoogen wrote:

> 
> Hi I was booted from the list when the definate date of TORGmush being online
> was posted... could someone give me the address to it... with Godnet down
> and my work computer in the shop.. I am kind of bored <<snif..snif>> :)
> 

The address is still pretty hush-hush for now, the wizzes are taking a short
break from it with this being the end of summer and all, and some other 
weirdnesses are happening (GenCon will take four of us for a week, for 
instance...)
Once the semester starts (Middle of next week) for most of us things'll 
get rolling, and then notices'll go out to builders et cetera.
And I do apologize for the delay...

> the Smooge
> (aka Soren the Heretic Hellion Mage)

  JimBo
  aka The.Gaunt.Man
From: alix@solwarra.gbrmpa.gov.au (Alix Walker )
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
Subject: Re: The Explosive Death of Selina
Date: 20 Aug 92 12:16:25 GMT
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> Well, sounds like things worked well enough I won't point out that you
> can't trade Subplot cards, you either activate them or trade them in
> for a PP when you draw them....
> 
> Kansas Jim (jogle@aoc.nrao.edu)
> 
why can't you trade them? I often have players pick up a subplot which
I can't use in the story right now (ie before the end of the act where
if they did play it now they would reap PP for now roleplaying) so I
tell them 'you can trade it in now or keep it for late. Thus it
sits in their hand and is tradeable later. Or is this just a rules
update in an Infin which I didn't see. Please let me know.

Winston (in a box)
Newsgroups: alt.games.torg
From: Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim) <jogle@aoc.nrao.edu>
Subject: Ignore this - just a test!
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 06:51:50 GMT

Changed computers today so I just want to make sure that the mail gets sent
to the correct machine.  (I also missed everything from Wednesday - anything
interesting get posted?)

Kansas Jim (jogle@aoc.nrao.edu)
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From: tnev2@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Re: The Ultimate Reality Storm!
Reply-To: tnev2@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:42:58 GMT

In article <gatemail1.0b22611564416111@morticia>, "Colin J. Wynne"  <WYNNE.C@fs.sciences.WLU.EDU> writes:
>bpostow@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Brian Postow) writes:

>  would suggest it anyway.  One problem I *can* imagine is somebody
>  wanting to be a Dodge prodigy.  That would take some *really* good
>  explanation on the player's part.

Well, you see, my character was abused as a child by an evil nanny who liked 
to throw things at him and.....

			-CJB (not W)

>
>IMHO, YMMV, GVMADWU
>            ^^^^^^^
>          (Gefahr von maechtliche Abkuerzungen das Welt ueberzunehmen)
>
>
>CJW  <-- Ee gads!  Another abbreviation!
>
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From: Clay Luther <cluther@morticia.cnns.unt.edu>
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``I studied neurology under Professor Fingerbottom in Vienna...and he
knew every nerve in your body.  Magnificent old thing...Came to a
sticky end....His falling piles blew out the Duc de Ventre's
Hispano-Suiza and wrapped around the rear wheel.  He was completely
gutted, leaving an empty shell sitting there on the giraffe-skin
upholstery....  Even the eyes and the brain went with a horrible
shlupping sound.  The Duc de Ventre says he will carry that ghastly
shlup to his mausoleum.''

-- 
Clay Luther
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From: "Colin J. Wynne"  <WYNNE.C@fs.sciences.WLU.EDU>
Subject:      The Ultimate Reality Storm!
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:24:06 GMT

In this corner:
    Core Earth Reality Prodigy, with a Reality skill of 19!

And in this corner:
    Nile Hero, tag skill Reality, with Spirit 16, and Super Skill
    (Reality), and a total value of 22!

Fighting in front of the Delphi Council building in Houston, Texas!

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Might be a good way to lose the Delphi council, having two 22 reality
scores going head to head outside, hmm?

CJW

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From: Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim) <jogle@aoc.nrao.edu>
Subject: Re:  Cyberpapal mages versus a Juggernaut..
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:14:17 GMT

Smooge writes:

> After Soren had put up the reality bubble to use his laser sword and had
> dispatched WOD (1st ed.) with the godsfire... the juggernaut arrives... and
> tries to use one of his impressed fireballs...
> 
> "Damn, this is a first... can you lower a reality bubble?"

Hmmm...I don't see why you couldn't make a reality bubble go away.  If
it is possible to voluntarily disconnect it should be possible to
terminate a bubble early.

And in the rulesbook section on reality bubbles they mention that you
can create contradictions in a reality bubble - of course, it says
that they'll all be four-case contradictions (page 102).  I had been
assuming that you couldn't create contradictions ala being in a pure
zone but that isn't the case (good thing I reread that section
recently).  So he could have cast his impressed spells but it would
have required a contradiction check.

(And just while I'm on the subject, a reality bubble won't help you
with a long-range contradiction, but the fireball wouldn't have
counted as such anyway.)

Kansas Jim (jogle@aoc.nrao.edu)