HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nlatif@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Nor Azlisya Abdul Latif)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malcom X
Date: 22 Nov 92 02:17:59 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <92325.165831C4B@psuvm.psu.edu> C4B@psuvm.psu.edu (*Eat Me*) writes:

>Hmmm, both are from U. Penn. It's a good school isn't it ? How come you guys
>still write like a kid ? Quote from David Letterman ? Malcom XXX ?  NYC  ?

Hey dude! where is your sense of humour??  Dont you know that it was meant
to be a joke??  And why is it wrong by quoting (sp?) from someone who is
funny??  Get a life!!!  And yeah...Penn IS a good school, and we r proud of
it!! 

And to you guys out there...please...Penn IS NOT Pen State!!!  Chao.

Azli.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Re: CHECK THIS OUT, OTHMAN
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 05:57:11 GMT

In article <92325.165532C4B@psuvm.psu.edu> C4B@psuvm.psu.edu (*Eat Me*) w
ites:
>In article <1992Nov20.071017.5486@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mmohamme@nyx.cs.
u.edu
>(mokta mohammed) says:
>
>>This message is for Othman
>
>>You low life idiot, get a life.
>
>
>>U have been annoying a whole lot of people not to mention
>>wasting a lot of bandwidth with all your stupid crap!!!!
>>You f*$#ing idiot, put your hormone to better use (if u have any)
>>than flaming and igniting racial tension among your country men.
>>Any flame for me should be posted in this newsgroup. Othman, I
>>dare you!!!
>>happy thanx giving.
>
>>cheers
>>mok, the main man
>
>Yo brother, get a life you little piece of shit !  Ahaaaa, posting from 
our
>free Unix account in NYX eh ? Come on, grow up dude !
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
------
>Ps - moi ? flame ? ...... naaaaaah
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
------


  So What with it. ?????????
  What grown up got to do with nyx .
  
  Sofjan Mustopoh
  Muskie
  Smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: kshan@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Anwar Ibrahim's Qualifications.
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:34:52 GMT


  In the article, on 12, nov, 1992. eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) 
wrote :

> kshan@kean.ucs.mun.ca wrote:
> When he was education minister, he tried kto destroy all the Chinese 
primarly schools. That is why Mr. Othman is so happy. Look at Mr."racist"

>> did he ? I thought it was a question of promoting not-nucessarily 
Chinese speaking chinese as head master in all schools, not only Chinese 
Schools? What finally happened ? Isn't the final decision more important 
than the attempts.

Mr. Othman please uses your educated-brain, will you? How do you expect the 
head master and the students to communicate, if the head master doesn't 
know mandarin nor Chinese cultures ? Would you be happy, if I send a 
Chinese or Indian head master who didn't know Bahasa Malaysia to a Malay 
school. Do you really think it is that simple ? Well, it certainly sounded 
nice; sent non-Chinese speaking head master to Chinese schools to obtain 
social integration. What is the final goal then ? I tell you what his fianl 
intention was that to convert all the Chinese and Indian schools in 
Malaysia to "sekolar kebangsaan."

Wake up, Mr. Othman, we are talking the character of a future PM ! If he 
used to have the vicious intention to change the unique property of 
Chinese and Indian schools in Malaysia which would cause a lot of 
pandemoniums in country, how could you think he is qualified to be a PM, 
whose duty is to make sure that the country is stable, not breed out more 
violent and suspicion among the people in Malaysia.

> Othman now, he is praising him incessantly. Talking about how excellent 
Anwar is !! Get a life Othman !

>> Now, who is a liar and a racist ?

I thought it was you ? Didn't you bring up Anwar's qualification to be PM 
and his some sort of "Malay studies" to show all the Chinese netters ? Didn't you 
praise him for getting an honour degree in "Malay Studies", while he was put 
into jail ? 

       Now, who is a liar and a racist ?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: nor@hekla.pnge.psu.edu (Nor-Azlan Nordin)
Subject: Re: Pay TV in Malaysia
Organization: PSU Earth and Mineral Sciences
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:43:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.140250.13561@csd.uwe.ac.uk> vcs_teo@csd.uwe.ac.uk (VCS Teo) writes:

>I'm quite sure its not satelite tv as satelite dishes are banned anyway.
>Could it be cable tv or something ?
>
>What are the programmes that you get. MTV perhaps ?
>
>If any of you know about this pleeeeeeaseeeeeeeeee .... send a posting
>at least it keeps the newsgroup from being overcrowded with all those
>racial stuff which everyone already knows.
>
>===victor===

I heard (two years ago) that Malaysia is going to have another TV channel
(Channel 4).  What happen to the plan?  Anybody knows? 

-Azlan-


Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: idicula@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (John Idicula)
Subject: Re: Somebody please get Othman Ahmad off the newsgroup!
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:38:11 GMT

I feel optimistic about the future of Malaysia, after
reading the articles by A.F. Shaarani and E.A. Jaffar. 

Way to go!!!

John

--
John Idicula
GINTIC, NTU
Singapore
-- 
John Idicula                              Internet: idicula@ntu.ac.sg       
GINTIC Institute of CIM, Singapore        Bitnet: gjidi@ntuvax.bitnet 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: c9110499@cc.newcastle.edu.au (You want to barter my soul? You mean it's worth something? Here, take it...)
Subject: Re: Discrimination??!?
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:40:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.081948.22896@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:
> Kwang-Ming Ng (c60a-sv@danube.Berkeley.EDU) wrote:
> : the bumis/malays has always been regarded by me as an act of 
> : suppression of the other races...Heck! There are so many poor and
> : Unfortunate indians and chinese in M'sia too...but do they get these
> : 'special' privy...Nooo, nope, zip, nada....Ok, Ok...lets see...
> : When the "Rodney King-Riots" broke out in the States...here in Berkeley
> : and San Francisco, it wasn't as bad as LA...was the result of years of
> : racial supression...hmm, wonder how would it be like if this tension
> : broke out in M'sia...
> 
> Now you admit it finally. Maybe if the Malaysian police start beating
> chinese and Indians right in front of TV, maybe but it is the other way
> round. Not only the Muslims were beaten, they were massacred right on
> VIDEO, and yet the chinese still claim that they were discriminated.
> 	Incidentally, those who did the massacres are non-muslim policemen.
> As far as I know, nothing is done to them.

I see what you mean, this guy really *does* misquote, and is only able to see
what he wants to see!!  He missed the point of what was said entirely (no
surprises there!) and began rambling off in a different direction...

Quite frankly though, he has lost his touch I think.  No more "supply them
with missiles", "mass murder" or stuff like that.

Now just blind self-righteous drivel.

Fal.
From: on@husc10.harvard.edu (Ahmad On)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: The "success" of NEP
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:30:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Nov18.153053.17578
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


I'd just like to throw out a few facts on the effect that the NEP
has had on the Malaysian economy in the past 20 years or so.

1. $30 billion was spent on poverty eradication.  But, the government
   admits that only $12 billion of this reached the target groups, with
   the rest going to administration and infrastructure costs.
   Unfortunately, it is unlikely that even this $12 billion reached the
   groups targeted for poverty eradication since some of the recipients
   obviously did not deserve it (i.e. rich Bumiputras).

2. The quota system at local universities has had preverse effects on
   economics development in two ways:
	a. It has resulted in greater non-Malay student enrollment
           abroad, causing massive loss of foreign exchange.
	b. It has encouraged emigration among non-Malays who are
	   disillusioned with the status quo, causing a brain-drain
	   for the Malaysian economy.
   Also, government sponsorship for Malay students abroad has resulted
   in less financing for local universities, causing declining student-
   faculty ratios and reducing public regard for domestic tertiary
   education.

3. Although 45 percent of all eligible Bumiputras participate in the
   Amanah Saham Nasional (ASN) unit trust scheme, only 1.3 percent
   of all eligible Bumiputras owned 75 percent of ASN shares in the late
   1980s, despite the $50,000 ceiling imposed on individual ownership.

4. The various consequences of ethnic streaming and double standards
   in tertiary education have undermined and continue to undermine
   Bumiputra self-esteem and confidence as well as public perception
   of ethnic relations.  

(Figures taken from "Pacific Affairs".  I can't remember the exact
issue but if you're interested, I'll be glad to look it up for you.
It is, IMO, a very interesting overview on NEP in the past 20 years.)
-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
Ahmad Z. Che On                |        'I have the simplest of tastes...  
Harvard College '95            |         I am always satisfied with the best' 
on@husc.harvard.edu            |                                    Oscar Wilde
From: akb01@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Damian Nocon)
Subject: Re: Do Pana Babilasa (Re: Komputery po polsku)
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 13:05:42 GMT

(....)
>Brawo, bije Pan wlasne rekordy chamstwa.
>Przy okazji, drobne wyjasnienie: ja nie wysylam wiadomosci
>sportowych dla wlasnej przyjemnosci, ale dla bardzo wielu
>czytelnikow, wsrod ktorych moje artykuly o pilce wzbudzaja
>duze zainteresowanie.  Osobiscie rozgrywki polskiej ligi
(...)

>*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*
>  Michal~ Szleper                        e-mail: michals@na47sun05.cern.ch
>  CERN - PPE Division                                                     
>  CH-1211 Geneve 23 ; Bat.892                "All you need is love, love, 
>  tel. (22) 767-64-01                         Love is all you need..."       
>*-------------------------------------------------------------------------*

Hi Michal,
tylko spokojnie. Wysylaj Ty dalej Twoje wiadomosci sportowe, bo tak
prawde mowiac, naleza one "niestety" do ciekawszych Msgs w soc.culture.polish.


Ciaooo, Damian

Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: A44211DB@vm.univie.ac.at
Subject: Re: Please, all Polish speakers, help out!
Organization: University of Vienna
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:11:36 GMT

I think the best translation will be 'Studia nad Rosja i Europa
S`rodkowo-Wschodnia.', but I have not a polish text editor.
'a' is a 'a' with a dash below
'S`' is a 'S' with a dash above
                                     Agnieszka
------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: fitch@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Don't blame me- I voted for Bill and Opus)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Please, all Polish speakers, help out!
Date: 8 Nov 92 02:59:19 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523


	The Russian and East Central European Studies Program at Colorado
State University is designing a t-shirt, and we need your help and
assistance. This is a fundraiser and it will assist us to provide
programs, as we receive no funding from the university.  What is needed
is this: can you translate the phrase "RUSSIAN AND EAST CENTRAL EUROPEAN
STUDIES" into Polish or any other local language?

	Youwould really be helping us out.  Thank you for your time and
	patience.

	Please respond directly to: fitch@lamar.colostate.edu

	Sincerely,
	Chris Fitch
	R.E.C.E.S. Program, CSU

Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Marek Osinski)
Subject: Re: Inkwizycja po polsku
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 04:22:26 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Nov14.234858.17825@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> Leszek Borkowski
<lbs@tkm.physik.uni-karlsruhe.de> writes:
>In article <akgq4c_@lynx.unm.edu> osinski@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Marek Osinski) writes:
>>Na marginesie tej dyskusji nasuwa mi sie taka mysl: Ilu z Was, ktorzy 
>>teraz staja w obronie Benettona, zareagowalo by w taki sam sposob
>>gdyby plakat o identycznej tresci (ksiadz calujacy zakonnice) byl
>>propagowany przez komune przed rokiem 1989? Czy nie uznalibyscie
>>wowczas, ze jest to brutalny atak na Kosciol i nie stanelibyscie
>>po stronie Kosciola?
>
> Podany przez ciebie przyklad zawiera luke informacyjna:
>
>Czy chodzi tobie o wykorzystanie takiego plakatu przez komunistow
>w celu wylacznie ideologicznym czy w celu sprzedazy jakichs towarow? 
>Moze bylyby to kondomy :-)
>
>>Marek Osinski
>
> Lech Borkowski

Obawiam sie, Leszku, ze moja odpowiedz nie zaspokoi w pelni Twej luki
informacyjnej, a to dlatego, ze tak wlasnie jest w zyciu. To, jaki
komu przyswieca cel jest tylko temu komus znane, my mozemy tylko
spekulowac na podstawie jego akcji. A zatem, jesli nawet w podanym
przeze mnie przykladzie ow komunistyczny plakat mialby reklamowac
jakis towar, skad wiedzialbys, ze nie mial on rownoczesnie spelniac roli
ideologicznej?

Pytanie, jakie postawilem, nadal pozostaje zatem otwarte.

Marek Osinski


Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: tmpchw@eua.ericsson.se (Chudoba Wojtek)
Subject: Zonaci ksieza (was: Plakat Benettona a sprawa polska)
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 14:22:29 GMT

henryk@infopol.com (henryk) writes:

> W Katolickim kosciele w Szwecji sa ksieza ktorzy maja dzieci a nawet
> zony. Trudno aby ksiadz nie calowal swojej zony - chyba nie mial by tez
> dzieci.
> Gdy pastor z kosciola protestanckiego przechodzi na katolicyzm
> przyjmuje sie jego z otwartymi ramionami i moze on byc wtedy ksiedzem
> katolickim.

> Z braku kadr dopuszca sie takie wyjatki . Nie wymaga sie oczywiscie
> aby taki ksiadz sie rozwiodl ze swoja zona( rozwodow nie ma)
> ani tez przeszedl na celibat.

W ciagu powojennej historii Kosciola Katolickiego w Szwecji (kosciol katolicki
zostal zalegalizowany dopiero po wojnie, nie pamietam kiedy, ale nie wczesniej 
niz w latach piecdziesiatych) zdarzyly sie chyba dwa takie przypadki.

Nie kazdy kto przechodzi na katolicyzm musi od razu pelnic posluge kaplanska,
nawet jesli w kosciele protestanckim byl pastorem. Nawet jezeli obie 
strony bardzo tego pragna. W kazdym przypadku wymagana jest indywidualna zgoda 
papieza, na ktora mozna czekac do kilku lat.

Z kolei faktem jest, ze przez Szwecje przewinely sie wszystkie plakaty
Benettona, rowniez te zakazane-wycofane w poszczegolnych krajach i zaden
z nich nie wywyolal wiekszych emocji.

> Henryk Maltborg

	Wojtek Chudoba
From: pkukulka@amiganet.chi.il.us (Paul Kukulka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Cytaty z brukowca (Re: O ksiazce Szczesniaka)
Date: 17 Nov 92 03:57:34 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

Czejsc mam na imie Pawel Kukulka , jestem nowy na USE-NET i jezeli nie masz nic
przeciwko temu to mam kilka pytan, czy ta wiadomosc jest naprawde z POLSKI
, jak dlugo idzie wiadomosc z Chicago do Warszawy. Ja tez mieszkalem w
Warszawie. Prosze zostawic mi E-mail, to by byla bardzo dobra do kontaktu z
Warszawa. Prosze o szybki kontakt i z gory dziekuje.

                                              Czesc!!!!!!!!!!!


                                                CHICAGO   11-16-92
    
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: henryk@infopol.com (henryk)
Subject: Analizator sieci-Ethernet
Organization: Infopol, Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:50:00 GMT

Poszukuje taniego urzadzenia do testowania sieci - Ethernet
Moze istnieja nowe rozwiazania oparte o karty PC.
Tradycyjne analizatory sieci sa bardzo drogie.
Dziekuje za rady

Henryk Maltborg
henryk@infopol.com

Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: matthew@.cs.mu.oz (Maciek Blasikiewicz)
Subject: Re: O ksiazce Szczesniaka
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 13:18:42 GMT

kkniaz@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Krzysztof W. Kniaz) writes:

>Po pierwsze - czerwoni byli w sejmie PRL z kontraktu , a zatem nie
>mieli zadnego autorytetu i sily politycznej, po wyborach do

2/3 sie nie liczy?  Pamietam jak czerwoni sie bawili w chowanego (nie
przyciskali guzikow w glosowaniach aby nie bylo kworum) w Sejmie.  Jak
dlugo blokowali praktycznie wszystko? Przed wyborami Sejm byl
praktycznie sparalizowany.

>Teza o "zmowie przy okraglym stole" to w zasadzie teoria konspiracji
>a'la polonaise 92'. Teorie konspiracji jak wiadomo, maja to do siebie
>,ze brak dowodow na ich poparcie jest dowodem na sukces konspiracji.

No i co z tego, ze to teoria konspiracji? Czy to znaczy, ze gloszenie
takich wnioskow powinno byc zakazane w nowej, swiatlej, demokratycznej,
i wolnej Polsce?

>Scenariusze spiskowe swietnie wychodza w kinie (jak np JFK) , ale
>nauczanie ich w szkole moze miec tragiczne nastepstwa.

Nauczanie prowadzenia samochodu tez moze miec "tragiczne nastepstwa".

Nikt nikogo nie zmusza do uzywania tego podrecznika. Niech UD napisze
swoj podrecznik, zawierajacy jedynie sluszne interpretcje wydarzen, i
niech ten konkuruje z podrecznikiem Szczesniaka.

>Podreczniki powinny przedstawiac fakty , uczen w dyskusji z nauczycielem
>moze wyciagac opinie. Gdzie tu fakty?

Nie tylko fakty. Interpretacje i wnioski sa bardzo wazna czescia nauki
historii. Fakty sa takie, ze rzad Mazowieckiego i czerwoni mieli sie
razem bardzo dobrze, zbyt dobrze w moich oczach.  Jeden z mozliwych
wnioskow jest taki jak Szczesniak wysunal.

>Jezus z Nazaretu glosil, ze bogaci powinni oddac swe skarby biednym
>i myslec o zbawieniu wiecznym, Jozef Stalin zabieral skarby bogatym,
>w imie dobra spoleczenstwa. CZyz obaj nie wyznawali z grubsza tego
>samego?

Wazne sa czyny, nie slowa (Stalin tylko mowil o dobrze spoleczenstwa),
i wazny jest caloksztalt postepowania, jezeli sie chce porownywac.

MB

PS: Nie bylo mnie przy komputerze przez tydzien, dlatego zwloka w
odpowiedzi.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: michal@vsnmc1.cern.ch (Michal Szleper)
Subject: Re: Komputery po polsku
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, Geneva
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:36:33 GMT

Marek Swierkosz napisal:

>Chodzi mi o ogolny ton artykulu, o to pouczanie 'ex cathedra'. Tego raczej
>uczestnicy s.c.p. nie potrzebuja. W zalozeniu jest to chyba miejsce do dyskusji
>a nie do wyglaszania oczywistosci tonem 'porad dla maluczkich'.
>
>Mysle, ze autorce poprzedniego artykulu, pani Marii Swietorzecki, wcale nie
>przydala sie twoja 'dobra rada'.

Drogi kolego,
Gdybym mial zamiar pouczac kogos ex cathedra to zrobilbym to przez e-mail.
W szczegolnosci nikomu na tej sieci niczego nie wytykalem, ani nikogo nie
traktowalem jak maluczkiego, a juz bron Boze takiego olbrzyma jak Ty.
Faktem jest natomiast, ze Polacy przewaznie slabo znaja jezyki obce i
do tego chcialem sie odniesc.  Czy nie wolno mi bylo tego robic tylko
dlatego ze zbyt krotko przebywalem za granica (a zreszta skad u ciebie
ta pewnosc, jak dobrze znasz moj zyciorys?)?

>Jak zareagowalbys kolego gdybym na sieci umiescil elaborat w podobnym do Twojego tonie, zachecajac np. do mycia zebow ?
>
>'Rada na to jest tylko jedna - myjmy zeby. Choc trudno sie z tym pogodzic,
>jest to niezbedne dla unikniecia wizyt u dentysty i zachowania swiezego oddechu. Moze wiec warto zadac sobie troche trudu i zaczac myc zeby podobnie jak to robi *caly* cywilizowany swiat.'

Masz calkowita racje.

>Mam nadzieje, ze ten elaborat trafi do twojego przekonania i wreszcie
                                        ^^^^^^^
>zaczniesz :)
 ^^^^^^^^^
Ja niczego nie sugerowalem *tobie*.  I na tym polega roznica.

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  Michal~ Szleper                            e-mail: michal@vsnmc1.cern.ch
  CERN - PPE Division                                                     
  CH-1211 Geneve 23 ; Bat.892                "All you need is love, love, 
  tel. (22) 767-64-01                         Love is all you need..."       
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish


[ Based on very interesting stories in the special edition of Newsweek ]


A. Clinton's team won because they followed these principles (not in any
particular order, and not always consciously):
-----

1. it's not over until it's over.

2. everyone else is in trouble too - you just have to fight smarter than
they do.

3. you must have goals and convitions - fluff won't cut through...

4. learn (quickly!) from your mistakes.

5. know your enemy - but don't focus on just killing them; focus on
attaining your goals.


B. Bush's team lost because they did NOT follow these:
-----

1. know what you want to do; if you're not sure - don't even try...

2. be decisive.

3. avoid arrogance of power.

4. don't deny trouble - face it.

5. have clear lines of communication and authority.

	-----

deduced by
jsw.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
From: A44211DB@vm.univie.ac.at
Subject: Re:Please, all Polish speakers
Organization: University of Vienna
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:50:18 GMT

I think the best translation will be 'Studia nad Rosja i Europa
S`rodkowo-Wschodnia.', where
'a' should be replaced by a 'a' with a dash below   and
'S`' should be replaced by a 'S' with a dash above.
I have not a polish text-editor there.
                                           Agnieszka
From: marek@masg1.epfl.ch (Marek Swierkosz (Numerical Simulator))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.polish
Subject: Re: Komputery po polsku
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:42:09 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <1992Nov19.134329.2596@dxcern.cern.ch>, michals@na47sun27.cern.ch (Michal Szleper) writes:
|> Maria Swietorzecki pisze:
|> 
|> >Ja spotkalam sie z szerokim gronem emigrantow polskich chetnych poznania
|> >nowych technik, ludzi  mlodszych i starszych, ktorzy chcieli by wiedziec
|> >jak to "jesc" ale trudno im "ugrzyzc" bo z jezykiem na bakier, a w szkole
|> >podstaw sie nie nauczyli.
|> >
|> >Chocby, korzystanie ze zwyklej poczty elektronicznej czy readnews.
|> >Czy widzial ktos dobre polskie instrukcje z tej dziedziny?
|> >
|> >Pozdrowienia...Maryla
|> 
|> Rada jest na to tylko jedna - uczmy sie jezykow.  Jakkolwiek trudno sie
|> z tym pogodzic, to jezyk polski nie jest obecnie jezykiem swiatowym
|> i nie sadze zeby reszta swiata miala zamiar przestawic sie raptem
|> na polski, po to zebysmy akurat my mogli ich lepiej zrozumiec.
|> Moze wiec warto zadac sobie troche trudu i nauczyc sie tych jezykow
|> ktorymi mowi *caly* cywilizowany swiat.
|> 
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|>   Michal~ Szleper                        e-mail: michals@na47sun05.cern.ch
|>   CERN - PPE Division                                                     
|>   CH-1211 Geneve 23 ; Bat.892                "All you need is love, love, 
|>   tel. (22) 767-64-01                         Love is all you need..."       
|> *-------------------------------------------------------------------------*

Ach, dziekujemy, dziekujemy laskawco za wspaniala porade.
Mysle ze pani Maria Swietorzecki - skoro mieszka w USA - duzo lepiej zna
angielski niz udzielajacy tak wspanialych rad pan Michal Szleper.
Rownie 'protekcyjny' i pewny siebie ton swiadczy glownie o jego wspanialym
samopoczuciu. Gratuluje.

Marek Swierkosz

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