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From: ddukhovn@nyx.cs.du.edu (The Great Harlequin)
Subject: Re: Kung Fu TV series
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	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 21:36:16 GMT

I have recently seen a movie that David Caradine(sp?) has starred in that
was actually rather good <cries of alarm, shock, and dismay>.  It was cal-
led _The_Iron_Circle_ and contained a lot of classical Chinese martial forms
and mysticism.  Plus, Dave gets to play a blind wise-man/teacher instead
of the student of one.  It is definitely a must-see.  

_The_Iron_Circle_ can easily be termed one of the best movies I've ever seen,
and THE best martial arts film I've ever enjoyed.

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From: jmw1@ra.msstate.edu (John Westerburg)
Subject: one to ten in korean
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 22:23:53 GMT

   If some kind soul out there could post or mail me the Korean 
words (with pronunciation) for the numbers one through ten, I would
be greatly appreciative.  Not to mention it being good karma.....

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From: stark@dwovax.enet.dec.com (Todd I. Stark)
Subject: Re: LER DRIT INFO REQUESTED
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 28 SEP 92 08:43:51    


x92messana@gw.wmich.edu writes...
> 
>	Hi.  It's me again, the one asking about Ler Drit...  I'm grateful for
>the information i've already recieved, however, my curiosity is more than ever
>keeping me awake in my classes.... I've been to the campus library here and
>I've checked through EVERYTHING they had on Thailand.... I'd be grateful if
>anyone out there could give me some titles of books to get a hold of. 
>Otherwise, any other information out there would be greatly appreciated.

I don't know what you've gotten on this subject so far, but the only place
I've seen it mentioned in print is in 'Fighting_Arts_Around_the_World,'
which is a (pictorial) overview of martial arts from a number of different
cultures.   I think Unique Publications puts it out.  What other information
have you gotten ?

							regards,

							todd
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: A few questions about T'ai Chi..
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:24:53 GMT

In article <1204@xlnt.COM> david@xlnt.com (David Johnson) writes:
>The two man form is something entirely different.  The two man form is
>just a two person form.

Actually, I saw _two_ two-man forms: One was, as you say, just a two
person form. The other looked very similar, but was much more free form
(like what you might imagine taiji sparing would be like.) Unfortunately,
I can't recall the name of either. (And, no, I'm not confusing push hands
as something else. That was definitely _not_ what I saw...)

                                               Frank Crary
                                               CU Boulder

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From: stark@dwovax.enet.dec.com (Todd I. Stark)
Subject: Re: Shorin-Ryu vs Shotokan
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 30 SEP 92 10:15:23    


I thought that Shorin was one of the components that originally went
into Funakoshi's art; Shorin kata and Shorei kata; and that Shorin-Ryu
was therefore a sister art technically greatly overlapping with
Shotokan.  

If this is true, then the answer as far as a match is concerned would
in theory be that the Shotokan fighter who could make the Shorei component
work would have the advantage, or the Shorin fighter who could take advantage
of weaknesses in the Shorei component in the Shotokan fighter.   My dim
recollection is that the Shorin component consists of light, quick movements
with rapid stance changes, and the Shorei of the slower, heavier power
movements and stances.  So it would be the 'dancer/slugger' vs. the 'dancer,'
and the victor in such a contest depends on whether the 'dancer'
can be drawn into a slugging contest, or whether they can out-maneuver
the dancer-slugger.   

Sorry if this makes no sense, it's based on what little understanding I had
of these styles a number of years ago.

							kind regards,

							todd
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From: jose@auvax1.adelphi.edu
Subject: Lookin for books on Goju
Organization: Adelphi University, Garden City NY
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:19:52 GMT

I am looking for any books that discuss either U.S.A. Goju or any other form of
Goju (Okinawan, Korean, etc.).  Please mail me this information.  
Thank you

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From: schan@birch.srg.af.mil (Stephen Chan x4485)
Subject: Re: Nike Style Tai Chi?
Organization: SRG, Arinc Research Corp., Annapolis, MD
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 18:31:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct06.132613.28429@srg.srg.af.mil> dpipes@spica.srg (Dave Pipes x4552) writes:
>     Now the question is this.  You are supposed to replace the re$servoir
>when it glows a faint green when placed in a dark spot.  But how do you
>safely dispose of a charged chi re$servoir?  I'd hate to see some kid find
>it.  One accidental discharge and the poor kid would be leaking chi from
>his meridians for years...

	Dave, you're just so knave.
	I realise that not everyone has the natural talent and blinding
intellect which I humbly possess, but I feel compelled to correct your moronic
error, since you're my friend.

	Qi (the correct japanese spelling) is not something which you throw
away - the hole idea is to collect as much of it as you can. The only place
where you want to store your qi is in your Dan Tien. Which is your personal
piggy bank for qi.

	I have come to realize something which I want to share with you - it
may disturb some of you, but after researching this subject in many magasines,
I have an explanation for why so many white folks dont believe in qi...
	Whenever I go dancing, I always marvel at how little rhythm white
people have...and every basketball player knows that white men can't jump.

	Well, another one of white men's shortcoming is that THEY HAVE NO QI!!
	It explains why so many white people scoff at the idea of qi, and
why those who do "believe" in qi have such fantastic, mystical ideas about it -
because they don't have any, and they just *think* they do.

	Black people have rhythm, yellow people have qi...and white people have
hmmmm....
	white people have dangerous high tech weapons and lots of $$$$$.

	This tends to counteract their lack of rhythm and qi.

	Chanster

--
	Stephen Chan
	uunet!srg!schan or uunet!srg!schan@uunet.uu.net
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From: anderson@fermi.phys.ualberta.ca (Warren G. Anderson)
Subject: Weak Ankles and Karate
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:41:13 GMT

I seem to have a little probelm. Five months ago I started training in (Wado 
Kai) karate. I've been quite active in sports throughout my life but many of
my sporting activities have been somewhat curtailed by the fact that I have 
particularly little lateral support in my ankles. I've tried to limit myself
to activities where there is a relatively low chance of turning my ankles in
recent years since I've caused enough ligament damage for orhtopods to start
mentioning surgery to me. 

Up until last night, karate seemed to be fitting the bill (and more). I 
definitely have been enjoying it. However, during kumite last night, while
I was back peddling away from a concentrated flurry from a brown belt, my
left ankle gave way. It is not the worse sprain I've had by a long shot, but
it's got me worried. Surely I won't have to give up karate because of weak 
ankles (will I? Please say it ain't so!).

So my question is "has anyone else had this problem? How can it be dealt with?"
If I eliminate kumite I should be OK, but our particular school does not allow
one to advance into the higher belts without kumite, and I really like this  
club. Suggestions, comments, criticism and questions welcome.

Thanks in advance for your help,

--
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From: paananen@tuxedo.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Katori Shinto-ryu
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:33:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: engage.1992Oct6.203441.25963
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


re: Article: 23203 (rec.martial-arts) eric.t.zmarzly.1@nd.edu (Eric Zmarzly)

>> I am looking for information on the Katori Shinto Ryu school, on style,
>> history, philosophy, and everything else.

Well Eric, I don't have much but maybe this might help... Historically Katori
Shinto Ryu started with the 'gungaku heiho' somewhere back around 650 A.D.
Tenshin Shoden Katori Shinto-ryu began with Izasa Choisai Ienao (1387). He
reportedly received a spiritual insight of 'Futsu nushi no mikoto' as a
result of a rather sudden death of a horse that he was washing while at the
Katori shrine. From this vision a series of volumes on heiho were produced by
him that outlined Katori Shinto-ryu. This very same strategy and techniques
have been passed on though the centuries unchanged up to today. The school
focuses primarily on iaijutsu but also deals in naginata, and bo. 

There are litterlaly thousands upon thousands of exceptional swordsmen that
have trained in the ryu and it would be impossible for me to even list a
fraction of them. But swordsmen like Kami-isumi Nobutsuna (founder of
Shinkage-ryu) recieved his training in Katori Shinto-ryu. And Shigeharu who
was Hideyoshi's teacher was of the Katori school. Ide Gumbei, trainer of the
Tokugawa Shogun also was of the Katori school. It is notable that Katori
Shinto Ryu does not teach any "do" arts. They are all "jutsu" forms which (to
my understanding) the Japanese goverment considers the teachers of to be
living treasures. 

To my meager knowledge there are no formal Katori schools outside of Japan,
however there may be an individual or two hiding under a rock, here or there.

- Ed P (Tether even a roasted chicken)
From: achou@plasma.icsl.ucla.edu (Albert Chou)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Model Mugging (long)
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:29:59 GMT
Organization: University of California at Los Angeles, EE Dept.

In article <1992Sep30.152829.15165@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> plc@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>Just another data point on random violence...
>Two days ago a couple was attacked walking on a path near Cornell at 9:30 pm.

[snip]

>Now, Ithaca is usually considered a relatively safe, secluded college town. 
>I've walked that path myself many times without worry (though not at night). 
>This incident has shocked the community deeply and made me a bit more 
>paranoid (careful?) about where I go. If things like this can happen 
>here...etc, etc.
>
>Pat Cleveland
>pc11@cornell.edu
>Dept. Pharmacology
>Cornell University

This kind of thing happened just about all four years I was at Cornell.  It
typically started some time in October (mid- or late-), scared the campus for
a month or two, then went away by the end of the semester.  Spring semester
rarely (I think never) saw such incidents, possibly because it's just too
damned nasty outside during Ithaca winters for would-be muggers to lurk
about, day or night.

I agree with Mary that Cornell, as a typical large university in a small town,
wasn't a particularly safe place to walk at night.  While it doesn't hold a
candle to USC or Penn or any school in NYC, it's certainly not the idyllic
pacifist's paradise many think it is.  There are plenty of places to hide
along just about any path you take, aside from right down the middle of the
quad.

Al
From: rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Is There A Korean Kempo?
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:53:26 GMT
Organization: Banzai Institute

Is there such a thing as Korean Kempo? This is a question that came my
way recently. I must confess I've never given it any consideration
before (having mostly associated the term kenpo/kempo with Chinese
and Okinawan styles - I should add Japanese styles to that as well).

Anyone have any information on such a critter (either for or against
its existence)? If it does exist, what are its distinguishing features
etc.?

Thankee kindly,

Richard Travsky
Division of Information Technology     RTRAVSKY @ CORRAL.UWYO.EDU
University of Wyoming                  (307) 766 - 3663 / 3668
                       Watch Out For The Fnords
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From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: (what should I carry ?)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 04:20:51 GMT

In article <3778@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>>Numchucks and tonfas will also go stright through airport security

>	I'm sorry, but I simply can't agree with this.  I'm sure you might
>be able to sneak them through once in a while, but I don't believe you
>can get them past that easily.  I'd be afraid to even try, since it's a
>Federal bust to bring weapons onto an airplane.

Well, a friend habitually puts a pair in his carry on bag, when he flys.
A purely-wood weapon apparently doesn't show up well in an x-ray machine.
(I'm not suggesting that this is _legal_, simply that it is very
possible...)

                                                   Frank Crary
                                                   CU Boulder

Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: akif@sequent.com (Aki Fleshler)
Subject: Re: Akido -vs- Akijitsu
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 17:03:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.023206.28735@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> esot@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Eric Sotnak) writes:
>In article <1992Oct3.031722.22270@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> psun@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Peter C. Sun) writes:
>>
>>	Can someone please explain to me the difference between Akido 
>>	and Akijitsu? A local school teaches Akijitsu which i'm
>>	completely unfamiliar with... what are the differences?
>
>  And while someone's at it, what about the difference between Akido,
>Akijitsu and AkiFletcher?
>
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From: mh4e@frc.ri.cmu.edu (Michael Heiler)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Akido -vs- Akijitsu
Date: 3 Oct 92 16:37:26 GMT
Reply-To: mh4e@frc.ri.cmu.edu
Organization: Field Robotics Center, CMU


In article 22270@gn.ecn.purdue.edu, psun@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Peter C. Sun) writes:
> 
> 	Can someone please explain to me the difference between Akido 
> 	and Akijitsu? A local school teaches Akijitsu which i'm
> 	completely unfamiliar with... what are the differences?


The are very similar and yet very different (how about that for a straight 
answer). Aikido comes from AikiJujutsu. They both use the "aiki" principle
in their techniques, and most of the techniques look very similar. Generally,
Aikido stresses personal enlightenment (Aikido is described by many of its
practitioners as a way of life and not just a martial art) whereas AikiJu-
jutsu is more combat oriented. Watching the two, aikijujutsu is a little 
harder on both Uki and Tori.

- Mike
From: acharya@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Taseki Publications
Date: 29 Sep 92 19:11:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Sep29.191136.1295
Reply-To: acharya@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology


the address is:

Mr. Fredrick J. Lovret
Taseki Publishing Co.
P.O. Box 33305
San Diego, CA 92103

-mukund
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
From: SMM125@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: physical benefits of MA
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:51:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92273.175119SMM125
 <1992Sep27.030952.25471@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>
Organization: Penn State University

Howdy, folks, I'm doing a presentation on the physical
benefits of practicing MA (aerobic, anaerobic conditioning,
weight loss/gain, etc. . .) and I was wondering if there
have ever been any scientific studies done in this area.
Any leads and/or data would be greatly appreciated (if
giving data, please cite source).



many thanks,
Sean
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From: fcrary@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Frank Crary)
Subject: Re: info on bogua please
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:14:09 GMT

In article <lc9druINNr88@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> tmhoff@oogoody.Corp.Sun.COM writes:
>If I spelled bogua wrong no offense intended.

None taken, but I've only seen it as ba gua, bagua or pa kua...

>1. Does anyone have any experience with bogua? Could you
>   tell me a bit about it?

In general, it is very similar to taiji or hsing'i (what is the "right"
spelling of this, anyway?), but it is built around circular motion.
The forms involve walking in a circle, facing the center, and (usually)
eight "palm changes". That is, a form that eventually leaves the
person walking the circle in the opposite direction, after a number of
techniques mixed with various turns, spins, twists, etc...
(I'm afraid that isn't a very good general description... I'd probably do 
better answering specific quentions...)

>2. Are there any teachers in the Bay area?

Several (the Bay area seems to have more than its share...) in Montery,
Oakland, Berkeley, San Francisco and somewhere further north (where a
friend used to practice, though I forget the details, including the
instructor's last name...)

                                                  Frank Crary
                                                  CU Boudler



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From: afsar@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Dave N. Afsar)
Subject: Karate training in Bay Area
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: ba 
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 15:37:32 GMT


If you are interested in working out JKA/Shotokan karate then come to the
following address for training.

		Jordan Middle School Dance Studio
		950 N. California Street, Palo Alto.
		Training times: Monday and Wedsday: 7:00 to 8:30 PM.

Member of the JKA (Japan Karate Association) and ISKF (International Shotokan 
Karate Federation).  Chief Instructor: Hajime Yokota

For more info send email: "afsar@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com" or reply to this
email.
Tel: (408) 743-2078

				This is a map:

                                |      |
				|      |
       --------------------------       ----------------------------
	  California Ave.                           750 California
       --------------------------       ----------------------------
				|       |                 Jordan High
				|       |                  *********
	-------------------------       -------------------

	Oregon express road. 
	-------------------------       -------------------
				|       |                 
				|Middle |
				|field  |
				|road   |
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From: pierson@mpsg.mps.mlo.dec.com (dan pierson)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Katanas and other Blades
Date: 4 Oct 92 21:03:35 GMT
Distribution: rec.martial-arts
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

The Craft of the Japanese Sword
Leon and Hiroko Kapp and Yoshindo Yoshihara
Kodansha International, 1987
ISBN 0-87011-798-X
--
Dan L. Pierson          Digital Equipment Corporation
pierson@crl.dec.com     Massively Parallel Systems Group
From: roberts@pogo.wv.tek.com (Robert Stroud)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: Katanas, help!
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:47:45 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.

In article <1992Oct1.180324.2882@wkuvx1.bitnet> paschjc@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>
>I have tried and tried to find a book or manual on traditional 
>Japanese sword fighting.  I have failed miserably.  If anyone
 
  Try Japanese Swordsmanship by Donn Draeger.


-- 
Robert Stroud
Obukan Kendo Club
Portland Oregon USA
roberts@pogo.wv.tek.com
From: judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)
Newsgroups: rec.misc
Subject: U2 Tickets for sale
Date: 1 Oct 92 20:55:59 GMT

I have 4 tickets for the U2 concert on October 30.  They are excellent
seats: center stage field.  I am asking $95 for each, or B.O.  If you are
interested, please E-mail me.


--
"I drank what?" -- Socrates

judson@watserv.ucr.edu
From: carhart@netcom.com (Raymond E. Carhart)
Newsgroups: rec.misc
Subject: outdials
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:34:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I have no Idea where to post this, which is why I'm posting it here.
how would I get my hands on an extensive list of telnettable outdials? ?
From: davisson@ab.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.misc
Subject: need help on anu.
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:09:22 GMT
Organization: Alderson-Broaddus College

How can I get into Rec.comics.X-books if I don't see it in the list on the anu.
Newsgroups: rec.hunting
From: clochmul@nrambr.chem.duke.edu (C. H. Lochmuller)
Subject: Hunter training verification
Date: 28 Sep 92 08:43:41 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

Don't know about NY or MAryland but we maintain a complete computer
file of all successful Hunter Training Course grads. Way back in the
'50's when I took Hunter TRaining in NY there were forms filled out
and such. Have the Md. and NY questioners contacted the local Wildlife
officers?

Charles.

NC WRC Certifeied Hunter Training Instructor


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From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: use six shot
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: 29 Sep 92 06:46:37 CDT
Originator: hunting@osnome.che.wisc.edu

In article <1992Sep28.084316.20252@doug.cae.wisc.edu>
mikef@bvc.edu writes:
 
>
>If you are hunting pheasant and come across ducks you are probably close
>enough where six shot will suffice.
 
Since I've never had the opportunity to hunt pheasants, I'll give
way to your authority on this one.  Perhaps you could take me hunting
sometime and let me see first hand  ?    ;-)
 
 
>four shot will prevent to a great
>degree the winging of both pheasant and duck, but six shot will give a
>greater spread.
 
 
Huh?  The *only* advantage 6's will have will be a greater pattern
density.  I am not a ballistics expert, but I would find it very
difficult to believe that a smaller (and lighter) shot will have
greater speed (compensating for it's lack of mass ??).  Keep in mind,
that we're talking about STEEL shot here.
 
 
>I enjoy six, because I come across quail and grouse more
>frequently than ducks.  Have you ever seen what four shot does to small
>game birds?
 
Yep.  I have been know to get some of my shot-shells mixed up on
occastion, and have killed a few doves with #4's!  The results
were obvious.
 
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