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From: EL406045@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Tony @ Brownvm)
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Subject: Re: Biblical thought for the day...
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:51:10 GMT
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Posted on 10 Nov 1992 at 18:14:18 by Bill Merrill

>The point is that people interpret the Bible in various ways,
>but unfortunately their interpretations sometimes are based on
>translations that do not reflect the clear, usually precise
>Greek of the original. Bill

So while we're on the Sermon on the Mount, what's the original
like for Matthew 5:17-19 ?

  Do not imagine that I have come to abolish the Law or the
  Prophets.  I have come not to abolish but to complete them.
  I say to you - until Heaven and earth pass not one dot,
  not one little stroke shall disappear from the Law until
  its purpose is achieved.  Therefore the man who infringes
  even one of the least of these commandments and teaches others
  to do the same will be considered the least in the Kingdom
  of Heaven.

Sounds as though every little word in the OT is to be obeyed
(for the next little while at least).

Tony H.
From: TA0SHK1%NIU.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815))
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Date: 12 Nov 92 01:52:00 GMT
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: neo-pagan business

As opposed to worshipping Wotan, Thor, and the other gods dwelling in
Valhalla?

Steve Karlson

Get a good start and sail on the lifted tack.
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: re: Judgement
Date: 9 Nov 1992 22:01:33 GMT
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All I can say is, Amen sister.  You said what I was trying to get at
all along.  The quote from Romans was Paul talking, not Christ though, unless 
it was Christ through Paul.   I'll take that.:-)  The only thing I'd really
like to add to what you said is First Corinthians 13, but I don't really
want to type all of that in.  It does refute a lot of the out-of-context
stuff Graham threw at me, too, come to think of it.  

When I originally posted a message stating the IMHO fundy reasons for 
voting for that law in Colorado, I never said they were mine, and most of
it wasn't.  Then someone else took offense, and we were off to the races.
Off to the Pepto, too, for that matter.:-)
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WHTMINYC update
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On Wed, 4 Nov 1992, (Jim Thomas) wrote:

> Anne, when you go out cruisin' it excites us all. Wouldn't missive it
> for the world.

Some more than others, and in the most <unexpected> ways. Who, for
example, could have predicted Tushar's launch into low orbit over my
little installments?

-abh
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From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 10 Nov 1992 22:34:58 GMT
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In a previous article, gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:

>: Note: I can take Ruth, I can take Graham
>
>*together*  Oh Blommie!  I never knew you cared!
>
He needs two experienced people for kitchen patrol! [or whatever the
British army calls KP]

>
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Date:         Wed, 4 Nov 1992 14:55:38 CST
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: WHTMINYC Part 6

>        Ah, G, you know de gustibus . . . and all that.  But how long do you
>        think it will be before she gets the point and begins to argue about
>        shifting meanings?
>
>        Michael E. Macmillan
>
>Either hell will freeze over, or she'll realise about the r in rural,
>before she ever notices.  Mark my words.  I'll probably get a snitty
>letter this evening asking me to explain :-)
>
>G

Sheesh, there is a limit to which one can take this kind of thing. For the
sake of one stupid joke, the Met is deemed to be in the same league as
everything Right-Wing and American. A joke is a joke only when it makes
some perverse sense. Otherwise it is just mean-minded swiping.

At the risk of freezing hell, I will now ask Anne Harwell to look up the
spelling of menstruation and the meaning of enormity. This should put an
end to all the emails coming from a diseased chappie-mentality.

Although I have to admit that Toal is absolutely right.

tushar

PS Have you looked up the meaning of callow? I have a hunch it might
   surprise you.
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WHTMINYC Part 6
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On Wed, 4 Nov 1992 tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU wrote:

> On second thoughts, I will. Callow means "inexperienced".

What I said.

-abh
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:57:40 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Prediction
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On Wed, 4 Nov 1992, (Rashmi) wrote:

> but Perot beat them both.  Also, Clinton needs to jog more - he's umm, chubby.

You just watch: flab will come into fashion, and excess girth around the
middle will be known as "a presidential figure."

-abh
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Date: 7 Nov 92 21:36:58 GMT
Organization: nope

In article <WORDS-L%92110715434340@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> xxuucp@ATT.ATT.COM writes:
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Looks like ken's system is on the fritz again.

--bayla
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Suggestion for the archive
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>  but what it does offer is arranged sensibly, with very
> helpful explanations given.

Poor Bernard.  He has worked so hard organizing the ftp files in what he
thought was a sensible way, writing descriptions in the index and linking
files when appropriate.  I hope he hasn't read abh's gopher posting.  If
he has, I'll probably find him feeling morose when I get home.  But I've
got some cornbread from the MSU cafeteria to give him tonight.  Maybe that
will help his spirits.  And maybe Frank will put in him charge of gopher.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         gilbertsmith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: HELLO!
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> > --ggs (still bored with most of what is going on.  Somebody
> > <stimulate> me, please)
>
> Ooof! <tickle, tickle>
> That's about all I can offer...
>
> -abh

Oooooo, thanks, annie.... that did the <trick>.
--ggs (<quicker> than gt....)
From: R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu (Evelyn)
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Subject: Re: Nosferatu
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:15:54 GMT
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Re:  Anne Rice
  I love Lestat; I wish I could be like him:  full of life and laughter.

Re:  Nosferatu
  Released 1921-1922, directed by F.W. Murnau in Germany, starred Max
Schreck as the vampire.  Bram Stoker's widow, who held the copyright for
the story Dracula, brought suit to have all copies of the movie destroyed.
She won, but due to movie pirates enough copies were kept hidden away
until the copyright had ended (1954) so that we can enjoy this film. I
wish more silents had been so lucky.

Evelyn Duncan
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Subject:      Men can get on the rag too

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
On Sat, 7 Nov 1992, Graham Toal wrote:

> postings quickly and skip them anyway on the grounds of being totally
> content-free.
>
> So don't worry about it.  You're not missing much.

Graham, dear, keep this up and you'll have *two* newsgroups asking for your
head on a platter.

-abh
+++++++++++++++++++++++++
Some of us will back him up, if only to be argumentative.

JAG
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From:         Rebecca S Altes <rsast11+@PITT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: First the phone booths, (was Re: Superman

    but, of course, dagwood ended up going back to work.
    i have to admit, i was worried for awhile there myself.


                 bekka(the pgh paper is on strike so i have to get my
                       comics mailed in) altes
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: religious flames (was: amendment 2
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Thanks, Bayla, for inserting a little wisdom into the situation.

-abh
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (67)
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28)	Light Crust Doughboys/Our Gal Sunday

The Light Crust Doughboys were a Western swing band put together as an
advertising gimmick for Burrus Mills in Fort Worth, Texas.  Burrus Mills
made Light Crust Flour, hence the name Light Crust Doughboys.  They were
on the radio in the late 1930s and 1940s, and came on daily at about noon.

_Our Gal Sunday_ was the soap opera which followed immediately after the
Light Crust Doughboys each weekday, which is why my grandmother had the
radio on at that time.  Sunday, the heroine of the soap, was a girl from a
poor mining town in Colorado...the story line dealt with whether or not
she could find happiness in her marriage to a rich and titled Englishman,
Lord Henry somebody-or-other.  From what I heard, it didn't seem too
likely...my grandmother cried a lot about Sunday and her tribulations.
ndh

-----Nancy Harwood-----------------------------------------------------------
Journalism Department				Telephone:  (713) 357-3254
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Choosing the appropriate insult...
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> If you're saying that on the strength of the OED's description which

I didn't look in the OED.

> On the other hand, if you're saying that on the strength of Websters,

I didn't look in Websters until I remembered online Websters and popped
up the definition to send to the list.

I looked in the American Heritage.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Men can get on the rag too
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On Sat, 7 Nov 1992, Graham Toal wrote:

> postings quickly and skip them anyway on the grounds of being totally
> content-free.
>
> So don't worry about it.  You're not missing much.

Graham, dear, keep this up and you'll have *two* newsgroups asking for your
head on a platter.

-abh
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 12:23:23 EST
From:         BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU
Subject:      Re: 16 Tons
              8 Nov 1992 12:13:08 EST from <BGRISSOM@UKCC.UKY.EDU>

I don't understand this.  Everything else of mine has failed to go through
yesterday and today, yet by replying to Bill's message I get an instantaneous
success.  I guess this will all be worked out tomorrow.

brad
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Date: 5 Nov 92 22:14:26 GMT
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In a previous article, Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM () says:

>     Penny for the guy, mister?
In for a penny, in for a pound!  Forget fireworks, borrow a howitzer.:-)

>     Now you've gone and done it, judith -- twirled the dial on my
>     mental radio station.  <bsquawk static hiss bweep>
<*ding*> <KDKA in Pittsburgh, PA!>

>        It was the third of December
>        That day I'll always remember
>        Cause that was the day
>        That my daddy died (yes it was)...
>        WOH WOH WOH PAPA WAS A ROLLIN STONE MY MY MY
>
>     Damn.  Now where was I...
Missing the rest of the chorus, of course.....

	Anywhere he'd hang his hat was his home,
	and when he died, all that he left us was alone....

or something like that...

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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 07:08:00 PST
From:         Emily Horning <ECZ5EJH%UCLAMVS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject: Re: Whoa baby

> > Pray tell, what are betties?   I thought it meant more than one of me.
>
> The good-looking girls who hang around surfers.  I'm not sure of
> the derivation - perhaps Betty from the Archie comics.

Actually, it comes from Betty of Flintstones fame.

> --karsten

Emily
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Date: 6 Nov 92 22:24:00 GMT
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>   I was born one mornin' in the drizzlin' rain;
>   Fightin' and trouble are my middle name.
>   I was raised in the [cane break] by an old [mama ?ine]
>   'Twas a high-toned woman made me walk the line.


Okay. Let's get this right:

I was born one day when the sun didn't shine
I remember my mama was a-gone at the time
The doctor looked up and he said "Oh My!"
"I wonder if he's gonna walk or fly!"

You load sixteen tons and whadda ya get
Bow legged britches and a bucket of sweat
Tennessee Ernie done wrote this song
But the pea-picker done sung the words all wrong

Chris "What can I say, this is how I learned it" Schmidt
From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Subject: Re: HELLO!
Date: 11 Nov 92 10:35:01 GMT

Welcome, Jim LLewellyn.  

I regret to inform you that your pleas wrt to the subject line will be 
ignored.  This is not as arbitrary as you may think: I for one, due to 
inexplicable vagaries of my newsreading program, cannot even *see* the
text following the colon of 'Subject:' -- and those who read by mail
are usually deprived the pleasure, as well.  

I must warn you: there are some on this list who will take it upon 
themselves to see to your initiation/hazing.  I hope your having read
through a couple K of messages will have prepared you.

Go to, and good luck.

--bayla (list crone)

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From:         Carol_Carmick@BEAV.INTERSOLV.COM
Subject:      Re[2]: Did prop. 9 fail in oregon?
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     The black eye is on Colorado, which has just banned laws to
     protect gay people against discrimination or hate crimes.

     Carol
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
 <DBFABAK%CFRVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Depressed

Rita, indeed your first Christmas as a new family is very special (I've
done it three times) and you can build memories to be cherished in
future years.  Hopefully, you and Nico will have more reflective years
than I have had.  Everytime we take one of our long travelling trips,
Joyce buys special ornaments from areas we visit.  So our tree is not
only a Christmas tree, but a travel tree and invokes memories of places
we have visited.

About oranges...don't think they are ready yet...I no longer have citrus
trees :-(.  Incredible, but Joyce has just about every tree imagainable,
including the Tallowtree she named our road after, pear trees, etc., but
no citrus!  Very un-Floridian.   Everybody here has citrus trees!  And
I had one (orange tree) grown from a seed that my son had planted as a
child...and despite not being budded, it produced an abundance of oranges
with very sweet juice (natives will tell you seed trees produce sour
fruit ....not always true!).

Don, not really a bah humbug person.

                            Peace,
                                  Don
From: AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU (Entropy Warrior)
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Date: 12 Nov 92 17:52:33 GMT
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>What happens if Clinton dies before his inauguration?  Is Gore inaugurated
>as President?  Is there a constitutional provision for such?
>
>Joan (jboor@cs.umb.edu)

>I remember reading that if the President-elect dies before inauguration,
>the Vice-President-elect is sworn in as VP and then is sworn in as the
>President  (both of these on Jan. 20).
>
>Evelyn

See U.S. Const. amend. XX, sec. 3 (1933):
     If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of President the
     President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become
     President.

Before 1933, it was essentially the same--except that under Article 2, sec. 6,
it would have been a case of the President not being able to dishcarge the
Powers and Duties of said Office.  The 20th amendment changes what happens
after the Vice President is knocked out of the box for some reason.  More
significantly, it moves the beginning of terms for President to January 20th
from March and of Congress<people> and Sentors (and Senatrices) to January 3rd.

-K

-Mka
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From:         LNCJB@WOMBAT.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Establishment (was legislating)
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>>"Antidisestablishmentarianism" refers to a doctrine supporting continued
>>establishment of an Official Church.  Such fights can be rather bloody,
>>which is why our Framers ruled out establishment almost from day one.
>>
>Now there's a word for a bunch of wordies!  Just dissecting the sucker should
>keep some of us out of trouble all week.:-)

Guess whose youthfulness is showing? :-)

Ruth, that was the favourite word of most of us before the advent of
'supercalifragilisticexpialodocious' - it used to be the longest word in
the English language and was learnt by all precocious primary school children
(in this country, anyway).

It was considered quite a feat to be able to use it appropriately in a
conversation and was a means of gaining instant adulation. :-)

Carolyn
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: California makes history!

>I didn't mean 'Oh look, the *Democrats* have been restored.'
>
>G

Oh--it looked awefully like you meant "Oh look, democracy has been restored
because the <Democrats> have been restored."

A bunch of fiscal fascists, actually.

From NUTS-L:  Clinton's new tax form:

How much did you make last year?  ______

Send it in.

-K

-Mka
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: i'm on the rag
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Yeah.  I wonder if Grateful Dead audiences are ever considered live?
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:29:00 -0500
From:         "(Agnes Kruchio)" <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject: Re: Professional Activities on Electronic Networks
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              10, 92 2:16 am

>
> Agnes, give the message ID, the date, and the forum - for us, the best
> would be 'bit.listserv.words-l' - that would allow anyone to find
> it on the CD roms.
>
> G
>
Thanks, Graham. Are you still up?...or are you another (fellow) insomniac?
Thanks for the suggestion, it's the first one I've seen for this problem.
Hope it's universally recognized. Now - isn't it time to hie yerself
to bed? ...

Agnes
who, since she has taken a more active role in her nephew's life, is acting
more and more unrecognizably like a <gulp> (incredulous whisper)<<<mother>>>...
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: God and Dowsing
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On Wed, 11 Nov 1992, (Jim Thomas) wrote:

> Hey, guys, I'm only reporting, not judging. If some think dowsing

I think that Dowsing works, but not for the reasons everybody thinks.

-abh
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