HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: asente@adobe.com (A Usenet Pal)
Subject: Re: crabs
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 05:01:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.201842.7252@athena.mit.edu> read@athena.mit.edu (Read Weaver) writes:
>While there aren't many other choices for scabies, the pyrethrin-based
>pharmaceutical insecticides (like A-200, Rid, etc.) are much less nasty,
>and are more than adequate for crabs.  If your doctor gives you Kwell for
>crabs (as the doctors at my student health clinic always did) I strongly
>suggest giving it back.

It is my understanding that Rid is not recommended for people with ragweed
sensitivity, which is a large chunk of the population.

I'm elated to hear all these success stories of people ridding themselves
of crabs with one application.  It took me *weeks* of using Kwell and
boiling my sheets to get rid of the nasty suckers.  At one point they
were all over me--in my pubic hair, my chest hair, my armpit hair, and
even the short hair on the back of my head.  Ugh.

      -paul asente
	   asente@adobe.com   ...decwrl!adobe!asente   moo-bear@cs.stanford.edu

At luncheon, which was alfresco, Lady Celia announced they were invited to
the Gilberts for the weekend.
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Doogie Howser - Doogie does good
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:05:29 GMT
Followup-To: soc.motss
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1993Jan8.181935.671@athena.mit.edu>, tcarlin@athena.mit.edu
(Thomas B Carlin) wrote:

> Vinny comes off as a schmuck, although well on the road to
> enlightenment, Vanilla as a real positive role model
> (but, like I said, he is such this bare-foot-boy-with-cheek-of-tan
> suburbanite boy scout that even my grandmother would have liked him!).

Well, heaven forbid they should use someone like Dolphie.  We'd all
be at the bottom of a pit the next day...

*X*
From: aberson@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Celia Cruz (Was Re: Changing standards of female beauty)
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:15:46 GMT
Organization: NIST

>As I've
>written here more than once, I think the most beautiful woman
>alive today is Celia Cruz.  She's knows she's beautiful, fashion
>be damned, and she's not shy about letting you know how much
>pleasure she takes in being herself and being alive.

As an aside, she just held what she billed as the first AIDS awareness
fundraiser for the Hispanic community in Little Havana a few weeks ago.
It was a resounding success and she may do the same in other communities.
This is an issue she has become passionately involved with in the last
couple of years.

Sim Aberson   Ft. Lauderdale, FL   aberson@ocean.dnet.nasa.gov
"Home is where your roof landed" - t-shirt seen in Miami
"We Will Rebuild (tm)" - majority community response to Andrew
"We Will Redecorate" - gay community response to Andrew
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From: ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark)
Subject: Re: All Over
Organization: UNIX System Laboratories, Summit, NJ
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:21:37 GMT


Jack,

I love you.
I love you in your
burning words of blood and steel,
and white hot laughter, dancing
past the pits of hell to kiss the sunrise.
I love you in your
twisted roots that dig past blighted soil
to yesterday's strengths and stand
strong against the freezing rains and
darkened skies.
I love you in your
stories of rubber balls and chains
as you stand at ground zero.

Be Jack Forever.

Ry
ry@usl.com
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From: lof@pepper.waisman.wisc.edu
Subject: L'GASP
Organization: Waisman Center, University of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 4 JAN 93 16:42:39 CST

Lesbian/Gay/Bi Audiologists and Speech/Language Pathologists
is an official organization within the American Speech/Language
Association (ASHA).  If you are in the speech & hearing fields
or know of someone who is and is interested in joining L'GASP,
please contact me.   Thanks

Gregg Lof
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From: mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas)
Subject: Re: Wil Wheaton at MacWorld!!!!!
Organization: Gordian; Costa Mesa, CA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:38:42 GMT

In article <NFitch-130193110504@clinical-mac76-106.ucsd.edu>, NFitch@UCSD.edu (Nick Fitch) writes:
> Personally I'd rather spend the night with Wil Wheaton, an economy pack of
> condoms and a bucket of warm Jell-o than with Arnie, Dolph and Jean-Claude
> put together.|

  Oh dear. Arne has been doubly jilted here, I see. How will he get
over it?
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From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Out to parents in relationships (was Re: long-term relationships..
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 11:08:36 GMT

dyarman@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Donald L Yarman) writes:

>Mom and I danced around for nearly two years, me wondering
>if this would be the weekend I'd tell her, her wondering if this
>would be the weekend she'd ask.

>Everything's wonderful now.  The whole family bends over

GASP!

>backwards

Oh...

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From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: And Coors said....(was Re: Colorado Replies)
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff and Nonsense Division
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 21:48:43 GMT

In article <103879@netnews.upenn.edu> sfsmith@mail.sas.upenn.edu (Sandy F. Smith, Jr.) writes:

>What did the folks at Coors tell you?
>
>Did they express sympathy?  Did they say something about the money they've
>tossed at various gay organizations in an effort to buy back the allegiance
>of gay/lesbian beer-drinkers?

Buy it "back?"  Did they ever have it in the first place?  I don't
believe I've met a self-respecting queen or dyke who'd bother with
that swill, gay-friendliness or no.

-- 
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Subject: Re: long-term relationships...success stories, please...
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:20:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.213901.15407@osf.org> coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren) writes:
>And I'll bet your conversation and behavior in the
>company of your Mom and Dad are different in some significant
>respects from the way you talk and act around John and me.

I would hope so!

-- 
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From: allemang@lia.di.epfl.ch (Dean Allemang)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: some thoughts of mine. It might not be very interesting to you.
Date: 5 Jan 93 09:38:58 GMT
Organization: DI-LIA -- Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
In-reply-to: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl's message of 4 Jan 93 17:07:43 GMT



FJ!!,
 
You might (or might not) have noticed that I slipped this message into
the last email I sent you, but please indulge me the opportunity to
say it with (how many?) thousands of eyes listening:

I love you!

\end{self-indulgence}

Dino
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 10:39:34 GMT

In article <thaaang.726305390@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu
(John Dorrance) writes:

>Do they honestly truck around perfume in tank trucks?

Diluents might be handled in such a manner, since mostly
they are highly volatile and large quantities are involved.
The essential oils, some of them very rare substances
indeed, are usually stocked in bottles varying in size from
a gallon (or imperial gallon) to two ounces.  Some essential
oils are almost unbelievably costly.  The ones you see in
places like Crabtree and Evelyn are just the most common
ones, and most of them are a couple bucks (under $5) per
dram.

-- 
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From: kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: penis size
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:15:27 GMT
	    <1993Jan1.002343.8212@macc.wisc.edu>
	    <C08A7z.152@agora.rain.com>
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <C08A7z.152@agora.rain.com>
bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps) anonymously printed my correspondence:

>Letter 2 -------------------------------------------------------------------
>: I totally identify with you...totally. It's very discouraging sometimes!

Well, I decided to "come out of the closet" myself, since seeing myself
quoted anonymously made me realize that I too was succumbing to a sense
of shame by keeping my thoughts private.

The experience is not to be trivialized, but at the same time I know in
my heart that it's not really that important. Now that I've been in a
relationship for almost four years, my partner has succeeded in assuring
me that people do indeed enjoy my company with the presence of clothing.

[He wouldn't have it any other way!  :^)]

To keep it in proper perspective, I remember my own past, when I used to
flaunt it, and the several fondly remembered, if not shallow, events which
would follow. I think some of my sense of guilt had been conflated with
lingering homophobic internalizations---you know, that I wasn't appreciated
for my brains, just my looks---falling into several stereotype traps
with which some folks still categorize gay men. I think really that perhaps I
shouldn't have been so cynical after all, since I myself find an occasional
voyeuristic interest, and I would be setting myself up for hypocrisy if I
discounted myself from what I consider something basically human---appreciation
for the naked human body and all its various and sundry (sun-dried?)
appendages.

I don't think size-queens should be embarrassed in the least. However, if
some of them persist in ignoring the mental faculties of their objects of
desire, they are only cheating themselves. After all, unless they're having
sex constantly, there are an awful lot of hours in the day to fill up with
stuff other than dick-worship.

So in summary, I think my own self-healing advice is that we shouldn't be
ashamed of our own bodies nor our prurient interests, nor so disparaging
of others---as long as everything is kept in proper perspective. What a
waste to show off your body if you don't have a cultured mind with which
to give and receive love.

Brian
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From: stephena@netcom.com (Stephen Arrants)
Subject: Re: Credit Styles
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:33:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.203520.22036@thinkage.on.ca> kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes) writes:
>In article <thaaang.726177904@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
>>fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!) writes:
>>
>>>thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance) writes:
>>>>glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson) writes:
>>>>Greggie dear, is there *any* way you could get me a credit card? It
>>not to use it, wouldn't it? Okay, you've convinced me. I'll be
>>expecting the card shortly, Greggie dear.
>>
>>>And I promise I will never call you 'Greggie dear' to get it.
>>
>>Oh, come now! Calling someone Greggie dear is on a level with
>>calling them Stud-o-Matic, in my book.
>
>o-Matic? hummm, i could've sworn he was "manually" operated... :-)
>
Tsk...tsk......it's hand started, yes. But haven't you upgraded to the four 
piston model yet?  

...waiting for the stroke and bore puns.....
From: kolt@quads.uchicago.edu (Matt K/Gonzo)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: A bad coming out story?
Summary: Employer/friend/coworker
Keywords: help!
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:09:20 GMT
Reply-To: kolt@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago

I have a friend who works for the same company I do. Her son goes to the
same high school I went to. She made it clear that the son is having
trouble with a teacher whom I had. One thing leads to another and I offer 
to tutor the son. I meet him (he is 15; I'm 19). We get along quite well,
and I think the tutoring will go well. When I talk to his mother after 
we're done, I come out to her, by way of some anecdotes about how hard it 
can be to live with a roommate (another story completely). It was sorta
awkward.

Anyway, she and I had lunch today and she said to me, after an hour's 
worth of other conversation, "Don't discuss lifestyles with Jay." I 
quickly respond, "Oh no. We've got way too much work to do." And she 
follows with "Good. Because he's still innocent. And I'd like to keep 
it that way."

This is from a really liberal person who I'm sure doesn't consider 
herself phobic at all. I'm sure she doesn't see her p-o-v as being
the same hoping-to-sweeep-it-under-the-carpet thing that so many liberal
type people are guilty of.

Can anyone recommend howI should handle the situation?

Later,
Matt
 
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From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Year of the Queer
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:01:56 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <1993Jan12.071513.26102@netcom.com> cjlee@netcom.com (Caroline Jean Lee) writes:
>rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) writes (on pride day):
>>EVERY CITY IN THE WORLD should observe it on the last Sunday of June.
>
>I'm not sure if I seeing America-centrism, Western-centrism, or just
>plain the-world-revolves-around-NYC-centrism in terms of GLB history,
>but I sure am seeing some.
>
>Then again, I could be missing some smilies.

Nope.

If the first active rebellion against governmental oppression of queer
folk in our modern history had occurred in Thailand, or the United Kingdom,
I would advocate celebrating *that* date.  The modern, public gay rights
and queer liberation movements around the world mark their "coming out"
at Stonewall.
-- 
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                                                                   -- J. Foster
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From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: race based fetishes
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 03:49:29 GMT

In article <thaaang.726635080@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu
(John Dorrance), trying hard to have serious discussion
about important matters, writes:

>Is that any worse than liking blondes with big boobs?

Well, Jojo *is* very popular, for good reasons.

-- 
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From: wells@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Wells)
Subject: Re: kommotion about Krystal and Krispy Kreme (was Re: Bar etiquette)
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:55:07 GMT


Ahah ! My Momma thrived on Krispy Kreme's while I was _in utero._
Perhaps there some truth to the "my momma made me this way" after all.

Scott "Hot and Fresh" Wells
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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Year of the Queer
Date: 11 Jan 93 22:53:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan11.225353.17442
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <KMEYER.93Jan11141657@solarium.aero.org> kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer) writes:
>I also don't understand the argument that "it's OK to move the
>anniversary celebration 3 or 4 days to a weekend but it's not OK to
>move it a couple weeks."

That's the Conservative view, as opposed to the Reform.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Please, Guys, What do those Codes Mean!!!
Date: 9 Jan 1993 11:06:35 -0500
Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, NJ, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp

In article <1993Jan8.165958.12857@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> ry@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (ryerson.schwark) writes:
>Poor Greggie, There isn't anything quite enticing as someone
>saying. "Oh my god, I hope you're a bottom, its so big I couldn't
>possibly take it, no really, I couldn't, it would kill me, I uh,
>oh *DON'T*, no, uhhh.  OOOOHH! You're killing me, <thrashing head and
>grasping hands> Oh my good you're all the way in, I can't believe
>you're all the way in, oh god you're fucking me with that big dick,
>etc. etc."

In the "Guide To The Baths" there's something about "Don't claim
this is your first time at the baths, it takes a lot of practice
to learn to deep throat like that!"

Tom

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/ mouth to mount resusitation / I just lay down beside him / and idolize.
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From: manz@ee.ualberta.ca (Brett {Druid Queen} Manz)
Subject: Re: Matters of Attraction
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 07:39:20 GMT

In <mattm-040193154021@mcmelmon.apple.com> mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:

>Much has been made over being wanted for physical, as opposed
>to non-physical (ok, ok - *intellectual*) attributes.  I, however,
>do not subscribe to the notion that 'physical' attributes are
>somehow 'lesser' than intellectual ones.  So far as I am concerned,
>being wanted because one is a bubble-butted beach blond is 
>'equal' to being wanted because one knows how Isadora Duncan 
>died. 

>*X*

Well, Matthew, here's my position - whether you want it or not.

Good conversation skills and an interesting personality can make 
up for a lot in lacking physical beauty.  The reverse is seldom 
true.

Of course, if you don't *care what he has to say in the morning
then the former case is rather irrelevant. :-)
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From: strong@apple.com (Bob Strong)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Capitalization (dubious MOTSS content)
Date: 5 Jan 93 04:36:19 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

In article <1993Jan02.021704.4635@iisat.alt.ns.ca> ,
crombie@iisat.alt.ns.ca writes:
>It's the bible. I sleep with under my pillow.
>
>I have to. I work there.

Hmmm, you work there under your pillow?

>:->
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From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: George...
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 12:13:19 GMT

Pots and kettles, pots and kettles...

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From: an4851@anon.penet.fi
Subject: police/fire-science portrayal of gays
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.motss
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 01:43:06 GMT


** W A R N I N G **  This post contains some info on the movie
_The Crying Game_.  So please skip this message if you don't want
anything revealed about the movie (although it's not that much of
a surprise in the movie anyway).

I just finished reading a few books about police type work
(a book about a 20-year New York Vice cop, Daryl Gates autobiography,
and a book about Leavenworth).  What was wierd was that in each book
there was a reference to homosexuality that could be paraphrased as
saying something like being assigned to a detail dealing with gays
was the most disgusting and dreaded assignment a cop could have.
Specifically in the Daryl Gates book, one of his partners was quoted
as saying that when he was staking out a restroom for gays to engage
in public sex, he could never actually look at them engaging in the 
act because it was much too gross.  There were a lot of other
references to homosexuality along these lines that just spoke of it
matter-of-factly as being incredibly perverted.

I know that all these references were in the context of criminal
homosexual activity.  But I got the feeling that in police work it is
almost a given that gays are sickos.  I know this is not anything new.
But I was wondering if anyone currently in the field could comment if
this super negative perception of gays is still true.

Along a similar line, I attended a firefighting academy 5 years ago.
And I was really taken aback when the Captain in charge of our curriculum
was giving a lecture on arson.  And in the process of discussing several
cases he had been involved in that involved lesbian love triangles and
gay men who had committed some burgleries and then arson, he basically
told us to watch out for these people (homosexuals).  They are
extremely vindictive and will go to great lengths to get revenge (in the
case of the two men, one ended up murdering the other and chopping up
his body).  This was all spoken of as if it was obvousthat gays are
evil people.

In all these instances, straights were reacting to any gay activity
with total disgust.  Like when that guy barfs in _The Crying Game_
because he finds out the person that is turning him on is a man.
I don't get this reaction.  If I look at heterosexual porno, I just
feel neutral or limp.  Or I look at the guy involved.  I have no
interest in straight sex, but it definitely does not *gross* me out.
What is this all about?

e-mail to hvosti@nike.calpoly.edu  (not this mail-service)

(sorry about the run-on sentences, I'm in a rush)
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