HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: roberts@triton.unm.edu (Robert Smathers)
Subject: Re: HTS available
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 03:58:40 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Jul21.163927.1@happy.colorado.edu> jjlamastra@happy.colorado.edu writes:
>Can anyone tell me if Home Team Sports(out of the Washington D.C. area) is
>available with a satellite dish? If it is, is it available all over the country
>or just on the east coast.
>

Yes, it is available to the home dish owner, but at two costs:

1)  it must be purchased (it is encrypted).  I think it may be in Satellite
sports network's packages, but I am probably wrong.

2)  It is subject to the major league baseball territorial restrictions,
so you may or may not be able to get the O's.

Robert

Robert Smathers   (roberts@triton.unm.edu)   Albuquerque, NM

[This space for rent]. Email this poor, starving student for rates!


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From: hughes@gary.enet.dec.com (Gary Hughes - VMS Development)
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:13:52 GMT


In article <D2150040.9o6njk@phunt.MV.COM>, phil@phunt.MV.COM (Phil Hunt) writes...
> 
>In article <9207281311.AA29495@relay1.UU.NET> (rec.video.satellite), Ron Gomes <rrg@PROLOGIC.COM> writes:
>] Vidiot (uunet!vidiot!brown) writes about the NBC Olympic coverage:
>] 
>] 	Transponder time was purchased on five transponders, using two
>] 	satellites.
>] 
>The red, white and blue channels are on F3(F1)-6,-4,-23
> 
The original comment and question was about the backhauls from Europe. Those
are the '5 transponders' referred to in the TvT article.

>CVS (Cable video store) seems off the air, although listed in ORBIT, right
>now.  Unscrambled, alternating between CNBC and AMC movies.  Guess they don't
>want to show PPV movies in the clear!!
> 
I thought I saw that CVS had moved to another tr on F4R (tr 10 I think). The
messing around with CNBC is not too surprising; NBC own most or all of it. I
don't know why AMC is involved (unless they own that too). Clearly they would
want their PPV feeds on major cable birds to encourage caco's to carry them,

gary
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From: kaufman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Marc T. Kaufman)
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage
Reply-To: kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 31 Jul 92 19:29:41 GMT

jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup) writes:

>kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU writes:
>>I got my own question answered... NBC is not doing the triplecast.

>	So who _do_ you call to complain? (phone #)  Actually, I want to
>complain about the lack of any coverage of about 1/3-1/2 the sports in the
>olympics (not even the gold-medal rounds).

The official VP in charge of complaints is:
	Steve Blake   (212) 664-2813

(don't tell them I gave you the number :-)
-- 
Marc Kaufman (kaufman@CS.Stanford.EDU)

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From: david.hoisve@XANADU.CC.UTAH.EDU
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage
Organization: University of Utah
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:56:04 GMT

Somewhat related followup...

Our local cable system (TCI) has usurped the CNBC channel for the 
Triplecast.  Fortunatly, CNBC on G5 has been unscrambled for the last few 
days.

Is this common with other cable systems?  Is it due to the NBC/triplecast/
CNBC relationship, or something else?

== Dave.
From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Usenet feed via satellite?
Date: 26 Jul 92 01:07:38 GMT
Organization: Muth Valley Seismic Control District, San Diego, CA / Node 2

Dana.Sandefur@iphase.UUCP (Dana Sandefur) writes:

> A couple of months ago I ran across a message about a firm starting up a Usen
> 
> They were looking for folks with a computer, modem, and satellite dish, plus 
> 
> It intrigued me, but I failed to save it and have been searching around for i
> Unfortunately, I don't even remember what newsgroup I saw it in, but I figure

Although I don't have the info either, I have some interest in
the operation.  I recall someone was inquiring of the company,
about being able to use parts of their current system to save on
the (I think $1800) costs of the hardware.  I don't recall seeing
any responses to that follow-up.  Anyone able to bring me up to
speed?

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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:45:00 MESZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      Re: European Card Swaps
              92 3:02 pm

Mike Willis writes:
>
> And for all those other Europeans reading, please don't identify the British
> with their government. We really are not that bad, just a minority. It is
> getting embarassing admitting you are British when abroard, especially in my
> job.
>
...and please don't identify Germans with their gouvernment either.
We are even worse...hahaha, just kidding.

Anyway, I can only hope that 1993 brings us new rules for european
copyrights, and that - as terrestrial borders disappear - those in
the sky don't get higher and higher.

Working for NDR TV, which airs N3 also via ASTRA, I know what a
constant battle it is to get the license to feed contributions
to ASTRA as well at to the terrestrial transmitters. Sometimes it
is not just a matter of money (although some license providers
ask for up to double fees for sat inclusion), but a simple "NO",
like for all BBC productions avoid it. This HAS to go away. When
we started broadcasting via ASTRA too, most of the contracts had
been signed for terrestrial only, so we got stuck and viewers
outside of Northern Germany had to live with a slide saying we are
sorry for up to 25% of the broadcasting time. This definately has
changed. The rate of "no ASTRA feed" is down to 3%, because of better
new contracts. Except for some commercial movies which just require
TOO much extra rental fee or the producer just says no, for what
reason so ever.

Wolfgang


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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:12:06 EDT
From:         Gary Bourgois <flash@LOPEZ.MARQUETTE.MI.US>
Subject:      Re: PAL and NTSC
X-To:         dish <HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU>

>Anyone know why the material from BBC and other British sources
>on Western Hemisphere Satellites, like the BBC Morning News at
>3am EDT on G2/02, are in NTSC when they may be intended finally
>for Australia that uses PAL?

One theory I have is that this is done so that engineers along the way can
monitor the signal for quality.  And possibly to allow other USA
organizations to use some of the material (It does show up on CNN from time
to time, whether legally I am not sure)...

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From: gerry@bluemoon.rn.com (Gerard M. Foley)
Subject: PAL and NTSC
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 11:51:49 EDT

Anyone know why the material from BBC and other British sources
on Western Hemisphere Satellites, like the BBC Morning News at
3am EDT on G2/02, are in NTSC when they may be intended finally
for Australia that uses PAL?

 This is from
     gerry@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have his (or her) own obnoxious signature yet
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From: juergenb@ecs.comm.mot.com (Juergen Bartels)
Subject: Re: Naughty Dutch Channel
Organization: eng
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:38:39 GMT

In article <92210.082952RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET> <RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
>Is it the channel that's naughty or the Dutch ??

Well, it's probably not that naughty for the Dutch, but probably extremly
naughty for the Brits (or at least some of them)? <grin>

On Supertext IN ORBIT they mentioned yesterday that decoders are already
available but RHD changed the scrambling again so that "official decoders
will be cheaper than illegal ones"

Jurgen


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From: harry@cs.tu-berlin.de (Harald Brinkmann)
Subject: Re: NBC feedback TO Europe
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:44:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.102855.11595@daimi.aau.dk> hkp@daimi.aau.dk (Hans K|hling Pedersen) writes:

> How strong is the signal? Is it worth tracking (from Denmark) on a 1.5m dish?

Yes, definitely. I have seen it on my 50cm dish, but with a lot of
noise (of course), but watchable. It is on the Italian beam and should
be about as strong as the FinInvest info and test card on
10.9-something GHz vertical.

  Harald
From: iinqp@VNET.IBM.COM
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Naughty Dutch Channel
Date: 24 Jul 92 08:58:17 GMT
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Alan Crowder at Oxford asked about a naughty dutch channel starting this
weekend on Astra. Unfortunately, Alan it is on Eutelsat II F2 on the interSTAR
transponder so you will need to have a moveable dish or move your fixed dish
slightly to pick it up. It is 6 degrees west of Astra and a little higher in
the sky. The frequency is 11.617 gHz and it is vertically polarised. It
is scheduled to transmit from about 11:00pm until 2:00am.

Happy viewing
From: stretch@EMUNIX.EMICH.EDU (Brian Stretch)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Need help in selecting satellite dish
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:50:01 GMT

I'm looking to get a satellite dish system to replace our current $30/month
excuse for cable service.  There are several dealers in my area, but I have
no idea what to get.  (Computers I know, satellites I'd like to work on). 

I'd like to share the dish between two TVs.. can I do that?  (I assume they'd
have to be looking at the same satellite). 

The Satscan guide shows 4 Detroit stations as using OAK scrablers.  What
will it take to view them?  (Antenna reception is rather poor here). 

A few must-have premium channels: HBO, CNN, CNN Headline News, CNBC, C-Span.
How expensive will it be for me to get them?  (Another reason to get the
dish: our cheapskate cable company sends their satellite channels in mono. 
Bleah).  Are most common cable-delivered channels scrambled on satellite? 

Are there any particular brands I should look for/avoid?  I've seen ads for
dishes by Drake, Channel Master, and Toshiba locally (haven't made a serious
search yet).  I'll probably finance the dish in payments close to what I'm
paying for cable now ($40/month no-money-down is a common ad; probably
that much with a hefty down payment for what I'll want), so I'm willing to 
pay for a high-performence system (just as long as I can say "But it's not
much more than we're paying for cable.."). 

Many thanks for any help..
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From: exumfox@exu.ericsson.se (Mike Fox,xt-df,x0693)
Subject: Re: Well, it's blown (lightning)
Followup-To: Lightning 
Reply-To: exumfox@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:51:45 GMT

I know of at least a half-dozen people who lost equipment like yours
after storms in just one summer ...  Especially to TVs and Receivers 
with remote controls as they are effectively always live. A surge 
protector is a good start, but a surge protector with drop-out 
protection would be best. (When voltage falls out of tolerance, a 
'internal breaker' is tripped so no voltage is fed thru the box 
until it is reset manually).

They are kind of tough to find, but I bought a few for computers with 
hard-disks. Each drop-out box had 4 AC outlets and were obtained from 
a mail order house called MISCO at $100 a unit.  Maybe your insurance
company will spring for one of these as well.
From: ianj@ijpc.UUCP (Ian Justman)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: File listing available
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 03:05:07 PDT
Organization: Ian Justman's pitiful excuse for an AT clone

I have put together a listing of files available on my file
server specifically for readers of this group.  You can receive
one by sending a request to the following address:

satfiles@ijpc.UUCP

or try:

ijpc!satfiles@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US

No need to include a body of a message, but the request needs to
be able to leave your machine.

As of now, I have only a few files online, but I'll be adding
more.  If you have any suggestions on what I can ad, or if you
just have questions or comments, please drop me a line.  Same
addressing schemes can be used above, but replace the "satfiles"
with "ianj".
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 08:25:33 MESZ
From:         "Wolfgang R. Schulz" <wrs@MCSHH.HANSE.DE>
Subject:      Re: sightings of 16 degr east
              92 3:02 pm

Mike Willis writes:
> as strong in PAL. I also got CNN on the Intelsat at 27.5W but not very well.
> Maybe I will upgrade to 45cm if I can find a suitable dish.
>
Mike:

Don't invest into viewing CNN on Intelsat 27.5 West. Although many
doubt it, CNN announced to discontinue the transatlantic feed in the
Ku band as of or after september. The feed for european relais will
be only on C band.
Wolfgang


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From: hoffman@cs.pitt.edu (Bob Hoffman)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Ku-band services on Anik E2
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:39:07 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <9207152206.AB25133@relay1.UU.NET>, rrg@PROLOGIC.COM (Ron Gomes) writes:
|> Bob Hoffman (hoffman@cs.pitt.edu) lists the east-beam Ku-band services
|> on Anik E2.  A couple of minor corrections to that list: Tr. 19 is
|> actually Canal Famille (not Super Ecran), Tr. 23 has nothing, and Super
|> Ecran is on Tr. 27.

I was working from memory and mistakenly listed Canal Famille as Tr. 23.
It is actually on Tr. 27, not 19.  Tr. 19, at 11,791 GHz, is most
definitely Super Ecran.  It is often in fixed-key mode for previews
and the Super Ecran logo is in the lower right corner.  I verified all
of these last night.

Also, according to the Westsat listing, transponders 19 and 20 are
"national beam".  This would appear to be the case since they are
noticeably weaker on a 3-foot dish.

With these further corrections the list becomes:

Tr#     Name                                    Language        Scrambled?

19	Super Ecran				French		VCII
20	Musique Plus				French		no
21	Radio Quebec				French		no
22	Television Quatre Saisons		French		no
24	Reseau des Sports			French		VCII
25	TV Ontario/La Chaine Francaise		French		no
26	TV Ontario				English		no
27	Canal Famille				French		VCII
28	Ontario Legislature			Fr+Eng		no
29	YTV					English		no
30	Family Channel				English		VCII
32	Atlantic Satellite Network		English		no

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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 11:07:09 PDT
From:         "Vijay Vaidyanathan" <zycad!yoda!vijay@SUN.COM>
Subject:      Scrounger Stuff, IRD and Stereo Processor for sale
X-To:         HOMESAT@VM1.NoDak.EDU

Took a beating in the Stock Market, need to pacify irate spouse.

For Sale:
0.1 Not really working Sun Hi Res Monitor		$Free

0.2 Damaged (I think I ran it past the limits)		$Free
    24 inch mammoth actuator arm

0.3 Tons and Tons of old Sat TV weeks			$Free

0.4 Tons and Tons of old PC Mags			$Free

and now for the Real Stuff

1. Echostar 4000 IRD, good condition,			$275
   I still use it. Features IR remote, VNR,
   Auto Polarity Peaking/Positioning and other
   good stuff. No module, you get to buy that
   if you want.

2. Tracker IV Sat Positioner. Oldie but Goldie		$85
   with UHF Remote. I love this unit!

3. Prosat Receiver. Another Oldie but Goldie.		$75
   70 Meg Loop, can also receive Ku since it has
   a Video Invert and the tuning is one of those
   continuously tunable knobs.

4. The Famous Janiel Stereo Processor. Paid a lot	$40
   for it a while ago :-( I'm not real keen to sell
   this, but I guess I should. Priced above what
   SAH used to sell it for, but at what its worth
   to me!

Items 2,3 and 4 were my whole Sat TV system until a few months
ago!

Pl. Call me at (415) 688 7423 (days) if you have any questions. If
you live in the SF Bay Area, you can come by and I could hook it
up to my system to show you it still works, and for a beer, I may
be persuaded to hook it up to your system. I live in Fremont.

- Vijay
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or
vijay@zycad.com
From: SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: Status of Houston Tracker
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:33:20 GMT
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering

In article <Brwn1H.Hv4@cs.psu.edu>
bill@math.psu.edu (Bill Conn) writes:
 
>
>A check with directory assistance for Houston Tracker Systems in
>Houston, TX and an old phone number (713-784-8953) lead nowhere.
>
>A friend tells me he thinks they have folded.  He also thought General
>Instruments was doing their repair work.
>
>Can anyone confirm this or tell me how I can get a remote control for
>a Tracker VIII repaired?
>
>Thanks.
>
>    -Bill
>
>bill@math.psu.edu
 
Houston Tracker Systems is now located in Englewood (Denver), Colorado.
Their phone number is (303) 790-4445.
From: "mike frisch" <mike.frisch@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: sub $300 sat system
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:15:02 EST
Reply-To: "mike frisch" <mike.frisch@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems


     Could somebody post the address of a dealer that carries this
sub-$300 satellite dish system that has been talked about in this
newsgroup?  I figure for something this cheap, I have nothing to lose.

Thanks.

Mike.

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From: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Well, it's blown (lightning)
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:33:24 GMT
Reply-To: jesup@cbmvax.commodore.com (Randell Jesup)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA


	I got the report back on my Sierra III: toast.  As is the VCRS, and
most probably the LNB and the cable connecting them.  Estimate was $2060
not including the cable for replacement.  There may be a usable RG-6 (meant 
for KU), but even if it's usable I won't be able to upgrade later to KU.
Should I hit up the insurance company to run a new cable to the house?  (It's
underground, about 30 feet to the house).

	It looks like the prime candidates for replacing the receiver are
the Chapparel Monterey 90, the Tracker 10+, the Toshiba 2200, and maybe the
GI 2770(?).  BTW, the local dealer prices are about $300 more than the one
catalog I have (SkyVision), and I seem to remember that SkyVision was somewhat
more expensive than (yech) Satellite City or maybe other mail-order places.
I don't have any numbers for anyone but SkyVision, though - could someone
post them (especially Jim Bass' number)?  Stuff like this should probably
go in the FAQ, since if you don't have a dish or if it gets knocked out you
can't get it off their ads on satellite (catch-22).

	I'm certainly going to add a pretty serious surge-protector to the
new system...

	Thanks to all those who have already sent me info.

-- 
"Rev on the redline, you're on your own; seems like a lifetime, but soon it's
 gone..."  Foreigner
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Disclaimer: Nothing I say is anything other than my personal opinion.
From: wegrzyn@nic.cerf.net (Chuck Wegrzyn)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Cost of components...
Keywords: Dish cost receiver setup
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:21:58 GMT
Organization: CERFnet;  La Jolla, CA

I am trying to decide if I want to put together a satellite
system. A dealer -- actually Radio Shack -- is trying to sell
me a 9ft. C band dish for $1295.00, with an additional setup
cost of $495.00. Is this a good deal? Does anyone out there
know where to get a dish and other components at close to
wholesale prices?

By the way, other than a dish and a receiver, what else should
I have or look out for?

Many thanks for your time and expert opinions...

Humbly, Chuck Wegrzyn....
From: philip@vogon.cetia.fr (Philip Peake)
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite
Subject: Re: European Card Swaps
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:41:48 GMT
Reply-To: philip@vogon.cetia.fr (Philip Peake)
Organization: CETIA, France

In article <ees1mw.19@ee.surrey.ac.uk>, ees1mw@ee.surrey.ac.uk (Mike Willis) writes:
|> In article <HOMESAT%92072005471593@VM1.NODAK.EDU> iinqp@VNET.IBM.COM writes:
|> 
|> 
|> >  Has anybody suggested using this newsgroup to arrange legitimate swaps
|> >of decoder cards. I know groups like Euroswap exist but they seem to be
|> 
|> Are ligitimate swaps possible ? However I like the idea, but not swaps. I 
|> can't see many Europeans wanting Sky in exchange for Filmnet for example. 
|> Rubbish in exchange for a good film channel. Why would anyone want sky 
|> movies when they have filmnet/premiere ? Why sky sports when there is 
|> Screensport and Eurosport ?

Remember that Filmnet is not available to "Europeans", of which you
are one. But only to a small number of countries.

There are also many British people who may prefer Sky ... even some
non-British who might want the convenience of two channels rather than one ...

Some non-British might just be interested in the football on Sky Sports too.

As to "legality" remember that the only legal restrictions are ones imposed
by governments who have sucumbed to pressure to protect their native
encrypted services - having the decoders/cards available over all of
europe just means that the film distributors (etc) will want more money,
since they sold the rights for "limited distribution" - well, that is
about to dissapear, the EEC having told the distributors that rights
are european - or not at all, and to sort out their act by the end of the year.

The same logic must apply to sports channels - Sky will NOT be able to refuse
to provide its services to ANY EEC member - in fact, the treaty of Rome
specifically forbids them from doing so.

they are currently getting away with it only because the EEC wants to allow
a "transition" time, before becoming heavy handed and FORCING them to
comply or close down - same will apply to all the other "national"
encrypted services.

So, go ahead and swap - I seriously doubt that anyone will want to test
the current restrictions in court.

Philip
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