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From: v120qldp@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (PATRICK FERREL)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: NO! NO! NO!!!
Date: 29 Aug 92 14:11:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Dammit!  For the LAST time!  We are talking about the SIX PEOPLE WHO KNOW THAT
THE PRESIDENT OF THE GALAXY DOES NOT HAVE ANY POWER!

Five of these six people are Yooden Vranx, Zarniwoop, Roosta, Zaphod's
great-grandad, and Zaphod himself.

It wasn't Ford because he remarked when Zaphod told him that Yooden told him
the secret.

It certainly wasn't Slartibartfast because he was asleep when all this went on!

It can't be the man who rules the Universe because he is clueless.

I can't imagine who the sixth person is.

Patrick A. Ferrel - Scholar. Helpless romantic. Modem geek.  | Disaster Area
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From: gibbs2@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Alex R. Gibbs)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: 6 times 9
Date: 26 Aug 92 00:30:14 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: U of A Optical Sciences

In article <1992Aug24.174833.2308@ida.liu.se>, johri@odalix.ida.liu.se (Johan Ringstrom) writes:
> This is not at all what happened! Arthur is a representative of
> the last generation of Earth's computer matrix, and his brainwave
> pattern therefore reflects the question as calculated after
> 10 million years. 
> 
> The result has been fucked up because the cavemen was replaced by
> the Golgafrinchans.

I agree.  My interpretation is that Arthur was pulling the letters from
the bag to introduce a random element that could be controlled subconciously
and allow the Question printed in HIS brain waves (as the mice and Marvin
said) to come out.  The Question in his brain waves was from the time
when the calculations were nearly complete but had already been messed up
by the Golgafrinchans.  Arthur didn't even need to be on Earth to do this.
I also think that 6 * 9 = 42 in base 13 is just a nifty coincidence or a sign
that the universe really IS laughing behind your back.

Alex Gibbs
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From: bjornts@ii.uib.no (Bjoern Tore Sund)
Subject: Re: 6*9=42(13)
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Bergen
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 14:53:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.005450.4488@news.unomaha.edu>, torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair) writes:
|> > You can't speak in letters or digits.  The great computer Deep Thought
|> > SAID `42' or `forty-two' which you can interpret any way you like.  Ford
|> > and Arthur might have seen FORTY TWO written on the scrabble board but
|> > that's only because there are no digits in a scrabble set (the medium
|> > available was used).
|> > 
|> > Besides, it's the meaning that counts not the way you write or speak it.
|> > 
|> > >
|> > >    42 base 13 is >not< `forty-two'.
|> > 
|> > Is `six' times `nine' = `forty-two' (base `thirteen')?
|> > Of course it is.
|> > 
|> > Futilely,
|> > Phil.
|> 
|> What was spoken by the mice was a translation of what Deep Thought said in 
|> their native language.  What do foreign editions of the trilogy say, and has
|> anybody analyzed them?

What foreign translations say is not interresting. The ORIGINAL language of
the thrilogy is English, any translations will by default be less precise
than the English version.

Bjoern Tore Sund
Department of Informatics
University of Bergen, Norway
bjornts@ii.uib.no
From: sprave@gonzo.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Joachim Sprave)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: 6*9=42(13)
Date: 27 Aug 1992 11:33:57 GMT
Organization: CS Department, Dortmund University, Germany
Distribution: world
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In article <17fl0qINNpnu@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, hermit@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Ron
O'Dell) writes:
|> 
|> Gordon Bennett, here we go again.
|> 
|>    The fact that 6 x 9 = 42 base 13 means nothing with regard to
|>    this series, because the Answer is written and spoken `forty-two'.
|> 
|>     42 base 13 is >not< `forty-two'.
|> 
|> Bloody hell!
|> 
Rememeber that Deep Thought was *saying* the answer. So all
we know about has been translated by Arthur's fish when he was
watching the tape. 

(Perhaps there was a transmission error ??? 
FOURTY-TWO instead of TEE-FOR-TWO ?? No, forget it.)




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From: esa@acpub.duke.edu (EMILY ANGERER)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: 6 times 9
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:52:44 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Michael Bushnell sent me this by email, asking me to post it as his news
reader is not allowing him to post:


From: mjb@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Michael John Bushnell)

The information I wished to impart is not to do with  the 6 times 9 debate,
but is the meaning of life itself.

The number 42 is the ascii code for multiply (*) which is the true meaning of
life. It doesn't seem that anyone has managed to decode it yet, from what I
have seen on this group. 

(Obviously there must be a bit more to it than that, because the universe
hasn't disappeared and been replaced by something even more bizarre and 
inexplicable yet, but I think we're on the right track!)

Mike.
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From: daniel@csgi62.dcs.leeds.ac.uk (D N Crow)
Subject: Re: 6*9=42(13)
Organization: School of Computer Studies, University of Leeds
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 18:10:04 GMT
X-Posted-From: csgi62.leeds.ac.uk
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Aug30.171140.29445@athena.cs.uga.edu>, shimkus@athena.cs.uga.edu (Peter Gambit) writes:
> 
> Sorry, this is slightly off-subject, but I cant resist.  I came in this morning and logged on to my acct to read my news.  As i scaned down the list of groups
> I was amused to notice that there were 42 unread messages in alt.fan.douglas-adams!
> 
> Peter Gambit

I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but it is exactly 42 minutes
since anyone posted about this. Spooky, huh?

Slightly off-subject, you may not know this, but 6*9 really is 42, if you
use base 13!!! Spooky, huh?

Also, I've heard that Douglas Adams (he's an author, you know), is writing
another book. Its in his Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy series. You may
have heard of it. I think it is going to be the 42nd. book in the series.
Perhaps we could have a discussion about this? Did you know that this is the
only trilogy with 42 books in it? And that books 5-41 were never actually
written? Spooky, huh?

-- 
Dan Crow
daniel@scs.leeds.ac.uk
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From: bpostow@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Brian Postow)
Subject: Re: NO! NO! NO!!!
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:31:44 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

excuse me, but what makes you think that those 5 people knew what was
going on? ok, Zarniwoop might have, but he died. What makes anyone
think that this isn't just a piece of generic sillyness put into the
book for it's pure humor value???? and ROOSTA???? why the bleem would
HE know anything? all he did was get Zaphod to leave via the window,
and introduce him to his towel. Zaphod MAY know what is going on, but
if he does, it is in the locked up part of his brain so it doesn't
matter.  the rest are all just random people whom we haven't met yet.

of course this is all IMO
--
Brian Postow :: The Pasta Knight - that noodle head in shiny armour

Didn't your parents tell you not to talk to strangers?
	And I'm STAAANGER than you are!
From: markw@cltr.uq.oz.au (Mark White)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: New Book by Adams?
Keywords: adams new hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:08:18 GMT
Organization: Centre for Language Teaching and Research, Uni of Queensland, AUSTRALIA.

Apologies if this is OLD news, but I'm not a regular reader....

I just saw a posting in rec.arts.books to the effect the DA had written
yet another HHGTTG book (a trilogy in _five_ parts :) called "Mostly
Harmless", and it's due out in October.

Is this common knowledge, or has it been known for some time?  I had
no idea a further book was in the wind.....
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From: bgarfink@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (beth diane garfinkel)
Subject: Re: 6*9=42(13)
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 14:33:54 GMT

In <1992Aug28.093616.7173@daimi.aau.dk> protonen@daimi.aau.dk (Lars J|dal) 
writes:
 
(quoted from _The Restaurant at the End of the Universe:)
>	`Why does he keep banging on the rock?' said Arthur.
>	`I think he probably wants you to Scrabble with him again,'
>	said Ford, `he's pointing at the letters.'
>	`Probably spelt crzjgrdwldiwdc again, poor bastard. I keep
>	on telling him there's only on g in crzgrdwldiwdc.'

I've always been curious: what does the word crzgrdwldiwdc mean?  I
assume it's Welsh.  If any one knows, please e-mail me the defninition.
Thanks.
								Beth
-- 
"Hold stick near center of its length.  Moisten pointed end in mouth.
Insert in tooth space, blunt end next to gum. Use gentle in-out motion."
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From: ctalbott@mksol.dseg.ti.com (christopher j talbott)
Subject: Re: 42
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:06:27 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.163104.1249@alf.uib.no>, bjornts@ii.uib.no (Bjoern Tore Sund) writes:
|> In article <BtwKJ5.A5J@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v125p7c5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Michael Lamanna) writes:
|> |> 	Does anyone out there think that perhaps Douglas Adam's picked
|> |> the number for no other reason than it just came to him in the spur of 
|> |> the moment (no maybe you wouldn't).  The fact that he decided to make it 
|> |> 'what do you get when you multiply 6 times 9' may have some relevance, 
|> |> since he maybe wanted to make the point that there is something terribly 
|> |> wrong with the earth.  
|> |> 	The whole trilogy is full of things that point out the fact that 
|> |> there is something wrong with the earth.  This could just be another 
|> |> example.  
|> 
|> The thought has occured to me, and probably to everyone else, but why bring
|> up suich unrelevant matters in the middle of an interresting debate?
|> 
|> Seriously though, probability has it that you're right. This is especially
|> underlined by Arthur's comment in the TV series when 6*9 ha just turned up;
|> "Oh. I always knew there was something fundamentally wrong with the 
|> Universe." And 42 was either just something that came to DA in the spur of
|> the moment, or he could have picked it up from for instance "Alice in
|> Wonderland", where rule 42 states that "all persons more than a mile high
|> mus leave the courtroom immediately." There are all kinds of possibilities.
|> But, so what? The 42 debate is still quite interresting, and if anyone is
|> NOT interrested, skip it!
|> 
|> Bjoern Tore Sund
|> Department of Informatics
|> University of Bergen, Norway
|> bjornts@ii.uib.no
|> 

INTERESTING? IN-TER-EST-ING???  Give me a break...I've been following this
newsgroup since May (you know...the SLOW season) and I've heard every silly
theory about 6x9=42 that there is!!  It's gone past interesting, it's to
point of inanity (the state or quality of being inane).  Unfortunately, I
think all the "current" readers (who've been here more than a week) already
know that we've beaten this subject to death 100 times...it's the ones who
"discover" that 6 (base 13) multiplied by 9 (base 13) yields 42 (base 13)
and then feel the need to ask (as if to verify their own cleverness), "has
anyone else discovered this?"

There is something fundamentally wrong with the Universe...and it may be me.

NOT!

Sorry about the tirade folks, but we're whipping the fossils of a long deceased
horse with this 6x9=42 thing.

-Chris
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From: loon@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (LOON M J)
Subject: Re: Us load of useless bloody loonies.
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Undergrads).
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:03:26 GMT

In article <pgvpbsgp@csv.warwick.ac.uk> maudl@warwick.ac.uk (Mark Graham) 
writes:

>Why not have a new news group called alt."fan".douglas-adams.analyze.to.
death>so that those of us who just wanna hear about the new book or 
interesting>relevent information about Hitch-Hikers or Dirk Gently related 
stuff don't>have to wade through your mind-bogglingly boring waffle?

>Van the signatureless.


HEY! VAN the MAN, 
***************************************************
   I'm the only useless bloody LOONy around here.
***************************************************

And I'll excuse *your* useless and erroneous cry. Although oxymorons are 
allowed in this World, please note they don't make sense: how can something 
be mind-boggling and boring at the same time????? And anyway, I love 
waffles. 

Kind Regards,
--
Marc Loon <loon@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za>
Student No: 8807871/X (just thought you'd want to know)
University of the Witwatersrand
Johannesburg

Conversation: a voice competition between two people
in which the one taking a breath is called the listener.
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From: kyraan@bach.udel.edu (Stephen Ch Litterst)
Subject: Re: 42
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:37:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.130627.1276@mksol.dseg.ti.com> ctalbott@mksol.dseg.ti.com (christopher j talbott) writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.163104.1249@alf.uib.no>, bjornts@ii.uib.no (Bjoern Tore Sund) writes:
>|> In article <BtwKJ5.A5J@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v125p7c5@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Michael Lamanna) writes:
>think all the "current" readers (who've been here more than a week) already
>know that we've beaten this subject to death 100 times...it's the ones who
>"discover" that 6 (base 13) multiplied by 9 (base 13) yields 42 (base 13)
>and then feel the need to ask (as if to verify their own cleverness), "has
>anyone else discovered this?"
>
I would just like to point out that the entire 6x9=42 (base whatever) is in
the FAQL because it was beaten to death before I got into this group which was
sometime in February.  If you think you've got a revolutionary new idea about
anything, check the FAQL because it may have already been done to death.

						-Steve L
						-kyraan@bach.udel.edu
From: thanatos@korova.uucp (Thanatos)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: Young Zaphod
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 22:27:06 CDT
Organization: VHF void tube of the mind (713) 492-2783

Virginia.A.Reed@dartmouth.edu (Virginia A. Reed) writes:

> >Actually, if I'm not wrong, there are only six:  Zaphod, Zaphod's
> >great-grandfather, Yooden Vranx, Zarniwoop, Roosta and someone whom I can't
> >remember.
> 
> I belive that the seventh is Slartibartfast.

 
OR.. It could be Wonko thw sane..
And i believe you forgot poor Fenchurch.. no.. wait.. she knew something 
was terribly wrong with the Earth..sorry..

Thanatos

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From: v089l3s3@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Jeremy B Horwitz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: New Adams book (fiction)?
Date: 2 Sep 92 01:55:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

If anyone knows anything about a new fiction Adams book, PLEASE tell me! Use
the mail function, please -- I'm quite desperate!

Thanks!
0-> J
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From: bjornts@ii.uib.no (Bjoern Tore Sund)
Subject: Re: New Book by Adams?
Keywords: adams new hitchhikers guide to the galaxy
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Bergen
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 15:42:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.220818.27591@cltr.uq.OZ.AU>, markw@cltr.uq.oz.au (Mark White) writes:
|> Apologies if this is OLD news, but I'm not a regular reader....
|> 
|> I just saw a posting in rec.arts.books to the effect the DA had written
|> yet another HHGTTG book (a trilogy in _five_ parts :) called "Mostly
|> Harmless", and it's due out in October.
|> 
|> Is this common knowledge, or has it been known for some time?  I had
|> no idea a further book was in the wind....

Well, there`s been rumours that there was a book no. 6 (not 5!) coming for about
18 months. This is however the first time I hear a date for it. 

Can anyone confirm that it is book 6, not book 5 that is coming, the reason being,
according to what I have heard, that DA wasn`t quite happy about no. 4, so he 
wanted to distance himself from it a bit...?

Bjoern Tore Sund
Department of Informatics
University of Bergen, Norway
bjornts@ii.uib.no
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From: torsten@cwis.unomaha.edu (Torsten Wesley Adair)
Subject: Re: 6*9=42(13)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 00:58:26 GMT

paf4@po.CWRU.Edu  writes:
> 
> Hey, here's an idea... He said 6 * 9 = 42 just to incorporate not only 42
> but to bring up the whole issue of simultaneous oral sex! 69!
> Maybe Arthur does fuck!
> Maybe this IS the answer to our problems! 69!
> 
> ;)
> 
> D.G. tms
> -- 
> -Pete Fortman
> "Non Ego Vecors Sum Sed Dumtaxat Male Sanus"
>         ^      ^       |     ^       ^

1) Arthur and Fenchurch have sex in the air, and I think that they qualify
for the Mile High Club, even though they did not do it inside an airplane.

2) According to advance publicity for Mostly Harmless (due November 1992), 
A & F have a daughter named Random, who I assume is the main character of the
novel.
From: David_Woodsworth@mindlink.bc.ca (David Woodsworth)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.douglas-adams
Subject: Re: 6 times 9
Date: 27 Aug 92 06:41:31 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> EMILY ANGERER writes:
> 
> The program may have been botched up, as you say, but if you read the
> novels, "Life, the Universe, and Everything" suggests that the Golgafrinchans
> were not necessarily Arthur's ancestors.  The conversation is:
> 
> "'What happened to the Golgafrinchans?' asked Ford.
> "Arthur shrugged.
> "'A lot of them didn't make it through the winter three years ago,' he
> said, 'and the few who remained in the spring said they needed a holiday
> and set off on raft.  History says that they must have survived....'"
> 
> So possibly, they didn't make it -- most likely they drowned or starved
> on the way, and there was no official word on the survival of the
> cavepeople.  Further, the fact that the caveman was able to come up with
> "Forty-two" in scrabble letters implies that Earth wasn't giving up on
> these guys yet, either.

"History says that they must have survived..."

I take that as being a reference to Noahs Ark ... which, without bringing any
theological arguments into this, is said to be the basis for mankind today.
So, the cavemen DID die, and were replaced by the Golgafrinchans on their raft.

My $1.50 (after taxes)

David Woodsworth

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From: tagg@hg.uleth.ca (Nathaniel Tagg)
Subject: Re: 6*9=42(13)
Reply-To: tagg@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 05:43:28 GMT

In article <domalley.715346355@unix1.tcd.ie>, domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley)) writes:
>In <1992Aug30.213539.12431@newstand.syr.edu> jdeddy@rodan.acs.syr.edu (The Really Confused One) writes:
>
>>In article <715060051snx@klaatu.demon.co.uk> Steve@klaatu.demon.co.uk (Steve Loft) writes:
>>>I don't suppose anyone really wanted to hear this, but it's not actually
>>>possible to make the sentence 'what do you get if you multiply six by
>>>nine' from a standard scrabble set.  But then maybe Arthur's 'home made'
>>>set wasn't standard....
>
>>	I hate to sound stupid, but what letter is the offending one?
>>	I mean, i just checked and the only letters which i would think
>>	would cause a prob would be I and Y, but i'd like to think that
>>	there are at least 4 I's and Y's in a scrabble set...
> 
>'Fraid not. There are only 2 Y's in a standard scrabble set.
>
>(But of course Arthur's set was not a conventional one, so we can
>explain away this small anomaly. Thank goodness.)
>
>Daniel.

   Actually, we can do even better than this.  The pattern of letters was
shaped by Arthur's subconcious, right?  So, in reality, his subconcious also
formed the plan days or weeks before it became clear to his concious mind. 
Thus, his subconsious tricked him into making the scrabble set have _just_ the
right combination of letters.
   Problem: in the radio series, he says, while abord the Black ship.   "I've
got a pocket scrabble set."  Thus, the set would have to have been with him for
all that time, and is likely to be the one used on the planet, in contradiction
to the TV series.
   Solution: the subconsious mind of every human on earth was, in some way,
linked to the mega-computer known as Earth.  Earth was apparently destroyed
five minutes from readout.  Thus, the Earth must have manipulated itself, in
some subtle ways, such that the Question would be evident to all onlookers. 
Thus, I propose, the 'critical moment of readout' would take every available
media form at that instant: Billboards, patterns of blackouts across the
continents, geologic uprisings, radio transmissions, newspaper headlines,
masses of people forming together.. everything would have the Question
reflected in it, a grand pronouncement to the rest of the paranoid universe. 
This media blitz would have to incorporate... you guessed it.. scrabble sets.

    What do you folks think of this brainstorming?

---- Nat
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