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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 08:20:09 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: khotel@bnr.ca (Kraig Hotelling P055)
Subject: What happened to Browns? Spielman?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:45:36 GMT




     I wasn't able to see the game down here, so I'm asking for a quick
analysis of why the Browns lost to sorry old Detroit.  The only highlight
of the game was Ware throwing a TD to Perriman.


     I'd also like to know how Spielman did yesterday.

    


  Thanks.

   



************************************
Kraig Hotelling
Buckeye fan stuck in North Cackolacky

Kemp '96
From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:34:07 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Dec12.233013.12716@Princeton.EDU> hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan) writes:
>In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:

hey, ramesh will you please go to some one who knows how to post on the 
net and take some lessons....
get a life will you.......


-Rajeev
A Scrambling Eagle Fan..
hey, vintage 1990 randall is back...
GO EAGLES....
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From: rfedkiw@sepulveda.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: Rank...
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 10:46:34 GMT

These reflect teams ability to make it to Super Bowl.
Not records.... only post season expectations....

AFC: (1) Buffalo - never lost in Rich Stadium
                 - been to last two Super Bowls
                 - has home field advantage
     (2) K.C. - Can and has beat quality playoff teams this year
              - when this team gels it's unstoppable 
              - unfortunately their inconsistant
                (need first round bye to go, can't win 3 in a row
                 at playoff level)
     (3) San Diego - hot
                   - momentum
                   - defense
     (4) Pitt - unproven 
              - no quarterback
              - if opposition needs a win, they win (Bills, Bears)
              - will probably lose in first game they play
     (5) Miami - season is falling apart       
               - will be hard to win even once
     (6) Houston - Struggling
                 - lose first game
     (7) Denver - dead without Elway 
                - with Elway they might win one, maybe

NFC: (1) San Fran - good leaders
                  - lot of playoff expience
                  - good offense
     (2) Dallas - Achyman will choke or get hurt
                - young players, not enough expierience
     (3) N.O. - Defense
     (4) Washington - they just showed that some of last years team
                      is still there by beating Dallas
                    - win one game
     (5) Philly - can't win in post season
                - never have, never will
     (6) G.B. - the surge can't take them to winning any playoff games
              - they'll be lucky to get there
     (7) Minn - it's tough to win a playoff game when you can't beat
                a team with a winning record
              - they'll be lucky to get there     


--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)

The meek shall inherit the Earth. The rest of us are going to the stars.
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From: martens@laurel.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: Comments on the Packer/Oiler game (was Packer questions)
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:06:22 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.012941.10883@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pboxrud@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Paul D Boxrud) writes:

>2.  No one has commented on the horrible field position the Pack kept the 
>Oilers in.  I don't think they started a drive closer than their own 25.  I 
>guess this isn't a question is it? :-)  Oh well

Green Bay special teams and defense played well.

One play I'd like to comment on was Cecil's missed tackle on
White's TD run.  First of all, that was pretty nice piece of
running by White.  But Cecil should've had him:  Cecil ducked his
head and White jumped over him.  If Cecil'd kept his head up,
he'd've tripped White up pretty easily.

WRs other than Sharpe were productive, and Thompson did a pretty
good job receiving out of the backfield--both of these were
encouraging.

Finally, although Carlson overall had a pretty good day, I think
if Moon had been the Oiler QB, the score would've looked a little
different.  Take away Carlson's fumble or one of his
interceptions, and the Oilers could've easily won the game.
-- 
      "C'mon, what's the big hold up?!  Let's go, up there!
		  Bring on the snow!"  -- Calvin

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Jimmy Johnson: Love em or hate em, he's a winner (and a whiner)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 17:44:05 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
Distribution: usa
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In article <BzD3oH.2n7@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
 >I agree Jim Johnson is quite the whinner.
 >He has won some games, but As I said earlier if a coach
 >cannot show that he has confidence then the team will go downhill.
 >I have a notion that the Cowboys will get beat by the 49er's.
 >But before I get a barage from BOY's fans.  Congrats to the Cowboys
 >on having a winning season.  Johnson has turned the team around,
 >but sometimes the intangibles that it takes to win the big games
 >are hard to come by.  

Okay, so what is a coach that gets screwed by the ref's and sits there
on his hands ? (not in reference to the wash game)

As a player, I would rather have a coach that screams bloody murder
when we get hosed by the zebras not one that just bends over and takes it.

Side note: So far EVERY time JJ has taken a complaint to the NFL office
           they have agreed with his complaints. 

So there !
tim
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:00:07 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M)
Subject: Re: Jimmy Johnson: Love em or hate em, he's a winner (and a whiner)
Reply-To: dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:09:39 GMT

In article <1gqi49INN8q3@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.164528.8789@pbhyg.PacBell.COM> dggok@PacBell.COM (David G. Gok) writes:
>
> >Also, for Dallas Cowboys fans, which team would you rather face in the
> >first round?  (You have the same choices as the 49ers plus Minnesota.)
> >
> >Fans from other teams, feel free to express your thought as well.
> >
>
>
>Cowboys point of view:
>
>First round would have been Eagles, but now it's, the pleasure of kicking the
>Redskins out of the playoffs.  I bet the Skins are "really" looking forward
>to comming to Dallas for this one......
>
>Next:
>No question, 9ers

As a 49er fan I agree.  We want the Cowboys as well!  There would be
no question as to which team should represent the NFC in SB 27 (except
perhaps from the other playoff teams ;-)).  I would guess, however, that
your expectation of the game's outcome differs from mine.

>This reminds me of last year, Redskins 11-0, "unbeatable" team.
>"We shook up the world !"
>
>We WANT the niners, it's payback time !!!!
>
>Time running out , Aikmans back, rolling out.......Jay Novacek TOUCHDOWN !!!! 
>                                             DALLAS WINS !!!
 
Yep.  I guess we differ.

>
>Your worst nightmare 9ers.......ya we want the 9ers, no doubt !

See you the same place that we played 11 years ago (we hope).
Of course, the Vikings, Saints, Eagles, Redskins and Packers might
have something to say about this.
>
>And of course a gameball to John P.
>
>Go Cowboys !!!!!
>tim


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From: lor@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (edward.lor)
Subject: Re: Jimmy Johnson: Love em or hate em, he's a winner (and a whiner)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:07:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.144653.15272@bnr.ca> reams@bnr.ca writes:
>Sure, why not. Any call that could go either way, that costs as
>much as that one. Something should be said. 
Yes, but look at Gibbs/Reeves. They were victims of calls that could go
only one way (the league/officials ADMITTED the mistakes), yet they didn't
think that "something should be said", i.e. they said nothing.

How's this approach as compared to JJ's two-day whining?

>Well, if Jimmy does not live up to your standards, maybe you
>ought to fire him.
>
>A measure of one's class goes beyond single instances - or even
>single facets of a person's character.  Besides, its not exactly
>a pre-requisite for a head coaching job in the NFL
>	(Glanville, G. Allen, B. Ryan, Ditka, Halas, 
>	and others I'm either forgetting or not old enough to 
>	remember)
>
>I won't make an argument for JJ's quality of character, I have'nt 
>been. All I've been pointing out is that we do not have the 
>whole picture. Never will. And what's displayed for the public
>can have any number of causes.
>
>In the event that JJ happens to be a class-less jerk that I 
>wouldn't want to have as a personal friend, so be it. Bottom 
>line is wins, not grace. (Although grace might be a nice thing
>to fall back on from time to time.)
Winning has nothing to do with it, we are talking about a game already LOST. 

I have no problem with a big-mouth coach.  As a matter of fact, I like 
Buddy Ryan/Jimmy Johnson (the supposedly classless coaches) more than phonies 
like Bill Parcells/Lou Holtz, but I also like Gibbs'/Reeves' approach than 
JJ's on bad calls:

   "Hey, so what if we get a bad break? breaks are part of the game. Let's
    just leave it right there ...."

is more gutsy than sobbing in front of TV:

   "you want something real bad, and people take it away from you ..."


-- 
                                          Edward Lor
                                          lor@cbnewsk.att.com
                                          
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:19:31 EST
From: Robbie Po <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: A BIG SORRY ..... It was a system error.

Then why don't you cancel them?  It's not that hard to do.  It should only
take you a few minutes.  This way, you can unclog the system.
--Rob
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Subject: NFL_1992 Scoreboard: Playoff Forecasts
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:58:08 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

The computer program's playoff projections are slightly changed from last
week's.  Looks like Cowher Power is somewhat of a steroid creation.

AFC Championship: San Diego vs. Buffalo
NFC Championship: San Francisco vs. Dallas

Super Bowl: San Francisco vs. Buffalo

Super Bowl Champion: SAN FRANCISCO 49ERS
-- 
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f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu   sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact
Keep circulating the tapes.      on history." -- Dan Quayle, on Malcolm X

"Father yes son, I want to kill you.  Mother, I want to----WUAAAAAAAAAAARGH!"
	-- Jim Morrison, waxing poetic on family values
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From: hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan)
Subject: Re: `Redskins Repeat !!!
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: To all non-Redskin fans, after the Redskins beat up on the Cowboys this 
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 09:40:11 GMT

In article <XaR=Y4-@engin.umich.edu> sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan) writes:
>In article <Bz43LI.Cuv@andy.bgsu.edu> dlingle@orchestra.bgsu.edu (Donald Lingle) writes:
>>Sunday, Beware Of The Super Bowl Champs!
>>    I will agree that the Skins are having an up and down season thus far.  But 
>>if we beat the Cowboys this Sunday, you must agree that the Redskins will look 
>>pretty good for repeating as Super Bowl Champs.
>>    The skins have had a bunch of injuries, combined with the late pre-season 
>>start of Mark Rypien.  Some of our players are now returning, (Darrell Green,
>>Jim Lachey), and Rypien's coming out of his slump.
>>    I'm happy to see the Cowboys and Redskins games now mean something.  Before
>>last year, Cowboy fans would hide the week before a Redskin vs. Cowboys game. 
>>As for the 49ers, Vikings, Eagles, Packers, & Saints, I know you would love to 
>>go get a easy Super Bowl victory against an AFC team, but you'll have to wait 
>>for Joe Gibbs to retire or better yet, coach your team.
>>    Well, good luck to all NFL fans.  I am just "touring" the user group.  This
>>id actually belongs to a Pittsburgh Steeler's Fan.
>
>
>Well, I too hope the 'Skins thrash the Cowpokes. Personally, I don't care for/
>hate either. All I'm concerned about is the 49ers - more specifically Montana.
>I'm one of those weirdos who has never seen Montana in action - here's hoping
>the 49ers secure home field advantage before their last game so that I can have
>the pleasure of watching Joe for the first time.
>

Joe who ?

:-) 
-- 
**************************************************************************
Ramesh Hariharan , Chem Engg. Dept., Princeton Univ. 
Research topic : Stabilization of Colloids using diblock copolymers.
Research baap : Bill Russel (no ! not the Celtic legend)
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From: follick@jemez.eece.unm.edu (Jeremy Follick)
Subject: Re: Kickers doing double duty as punters
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:55:26 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Dec10.005142.48615@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN) writes:
>In article <1992Dec9.142539.7580@ncar.ucar.edu>, gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary St
>rand) writes:
>>
>>  Brad Daluiso of Denver punted during the game after Mike Horan went out with
>>  an injury. I suspect most kickers and punters are adequate at the other job.
>>--
>>Gary Strand                      Opinions stated herein are mine alone and are
>>strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu            not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF
>>
>
>I was just watching one of those ESPN shows.  You know the ones, with all of
>the old clips and such.  Anyway, there was this defensive player, I think his
>name was Youngblood.  He was really great, and they had Dan Dierdorf, who
>played against him make some comments on how good.  On this same show, and I
>believe it was Youngblood, but I could be wrong, they showed a guy sub in as a
>place kicker and kick a game winning field goal.  A defensive player kicking
>the game winner!  It was a really great show.  It was just on a few days ago,
>can anyone back me up?  (Or tell me how wrong I am and who it really was!)

I'm not familiar with this specific incident, but surely you must know
that back in the distant past (pre-60's) kickers played regular
positions too. For example, Lou "The Toe" Groza is in the hall of fame
as an Offensive Tackle/Kicker.


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From: sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (The Purple Bleeder )
Subject: Packers closing the gap.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:53:39 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

Green Bay Packers lead the Oilers...... 16-14 with 1.55
to go in the game.


S.H
From: cscdc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dan Carpenter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: PAck can have the Central
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:02:19 GMT
Organization: Educational Computing Network

In article <1992Dec14.040744.3088@zip.eecs.umich.edu> sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Eric Sybesma) writes:
>
>
>Looks like the possibility of a Central Division show-down
>is more probable.  If the Vikes keep playing offense like they
>did today.... I say the PAck deserves to go to the play-offs
>and the Vikes can learn some lessons.
>
>But I still will hope for the best..  Who's the 3rd stri g
>QB anyway?   :-)
>
>-- 
>Eric Sybesma                                    sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"Harbaugh back to throw, screen to Anderson, and it's PICKED off by
> Todd Scott at the 30..25..20..10.  TOUCHDOWN VIKINGS!!!"

Eric,

I realize that the Vikes would have to lose one more game for  the
setup, but.....................


 In Week 16 the biggest game in Football, TV or not, that week would have to be

	Green Bay Packers
	
	       vs.

	Minnesota Vikings

for the Divisional Championship.


GO PACKERS!

Dan
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:10:18 -0500 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Playoff teams (Question about ranking)

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.football.pro: 9-Dec-92 Playoff teams
(Question abo.. Kenneth Persson@eua.eric (827)

> Let's assume the won/lost record for all playoff team
> look like this when all games are played.
> Pitt	13-3
> Miami	11-5
> KC	11-5
> Houston	11-5
> Buffalo 10-6
> SD	10-6

> Miami and Kansas have the same record and they have not played
> each other during the season, have they? It seems real important
> since the second team have a free weekend and home field. Not
> as important but still interesting is the same situation as above
> for the teams Buffalo and San Diego.

well, I personally think that if either SD or KC wins the division
outright (that is, by virtue of record only), it will be SD, but going
by what you have here, the Miami and KC thing might be decided Monday
night if the Raiders win. And I believe SD would lose the decision to
Buffalo by: strength of schedule and common opponents (Buffalo beat
Pittsburgh, SD lost to Pittsburgh)......

--Vernon.
From: lang@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John J. Lang)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:41:51 GMT
Subject: Re: Why do the 49ers get to play by different rules???!!!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

In rec.sport.football.pro, jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
> OK, take the 49ers possession right at the start of the 2nd quarter... the 
> Vikes come up with a huge sack on Steve Young, they're going to stop them
> from getting a TD after they were inside the 20, and they've even pushed them
> possibly out of FG range, right?  Wrong... enter the zebras... a mysterious
> personal foul which no one saw, including the announcers, (and we get no
> replay of course) which gives the 49ers a first down near the 10, leading to
> a TD.  This play could have changed the whole game around.  The Vikes were
> up 7-3 and had just come up with a *huge* defensive play, but no, this is the
> 49ers, and we can't have them falling behind for too long, so the officials
> bail them out.  Where was the penalty???

According to ESPN, one of the Viking players took a swing at a 49er
player (sorry, I don't remember which ones).  This was just off
camera.

John Lang
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