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From: merlyn@iWarp.intel.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: [login] Recording failed attempts
Reply-To: merlyn@iWarp.intel.com (Randal L. Schwartz)
Organization: Stonehenge; netaccess via Intel, Beaverton, Oregon, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:49:59 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.123714.8449@newstand.syr.edu>, jstewart@rodan (Ace Stewart) writes:
|   Is there anyway to configure /bin/login so that it records _every_
| failed attempt at login? This is for a workstation with only a few
| accounts anyhow, so the overhead isn't high -- I would like the
| records.
| 
|   Anyway to record all failed attempts?

If you set something like this up, remember to record only the two following
things:

(1) valid account "xxx" gave an invalid password
(2) an invalid account name was given

If you record the attempted password, or the attempted login name,
you're looking for trouble, as this would be a ripe source for a
cracker who wanted to break in to your system (or an insider that
wanted to expand his/her powers).

I was going to leave it to the creative people to see the problem, but
security through obscurity is stupid in this case.

Sometimes, when logging in, you get out of sync with the machine, and
give a valid password when it is expecting a login, or one character
off on the password (like you mistype it slightly).  This would show
up on the log of a poorly designed system, thus giving the cracker a
very very valuable piece of information.  I can't believe how many
systems out there log such an attempt on some *hardcopy* in the 'puter
room.  Wow.

Just another security hacker,
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From: tarsa@elijah.mv.com (Greg Tarsa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Internal vs. External termination
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:34:56 GMT
Reply-To: tarsa@elijah.mv.com (Greg Tarsa)
Followup-To: tarsa@abyss.enet.dec.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Contract Software Services, Inc.


Do I have to do anything special to use external SCSI termination?  That is,
is there more than simply making sure that none of the devices has internal
termination and then plugging in the external terminator?

Thanks,
Greg

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From: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Can GNU C be used as a replacement for /bin/cc in SunOS 4.1.2?
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:59:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: zia.1992Apr9.225931.4233
Reply-To: rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Ruth Milner)
Distribution: usa
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM

In article <1992Apr8.120735.29049@trantor.harris-atd.com> ccarpent@dw3f.ess.harris.com (Craig Carpenter) writes:
>--
>>I think there's a misconception here though.
>>As far as I can tell, there is a /bin/cc in SunOS 4.1.2.
>
>SunOS 4.1.2 is also Solaris 1.0.1. The Sun C compiler is not bundled
>with that version of OS and 
>must be purchased separately. I am now to familiar with that as we just
>purchased an SS2 with 
>that rev and had to also by Sun C1.0 for it.

The Sun *ANSI* C compiler isn't bundled, but the old one is. Here's my
workstation, running 4.1.2:

<337>% ls -l /bin/cc
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root           14 Jan 31 11:30 /bin/cc -> ../lib/compile
<338>% ls -l /usr/lib/compile
-rwxr-xr-x  1 bin         98304 Oct 23 11:28 /usr/lib/compile*

Sure looks to me like it's there. "strings /usr/lib/compile" lists all sorts
of library directories, libraries, etc. etc.

ccom, cpp, inline, iropt, etc. etc. are all there too. While I do have Sun C
1.1 installed on this system, all of its files reside under /usr/lang, and
have different sizes and dates. 

If what you needed was an ANSI C compiler, then yes, you needed to buy Sun C
or get gcc. If all you needed was a plain C compiler, you spent more money
than you needed to. If you can't find cc on your system, you must have missed 
something in the installation, because it's definitely on the CD.

The reason it's still bundled with 4.1.2 (aka Solaris 1.0.1, and yes, I
installed off the CD-ROM) is because you still have to build the kernel with
a C compiler. That's not true at SunOS 5.0, which is why they can get away
with leaving it out.
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Computing Division Head      rmilner@zia.aoc.nrao.edu
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Request for Info, re: SUN + SGI network
Date: 14 Apr 92 07:22:21 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Apr13.220844.26252@cfa203.harvard.edu> nassio@cfa.harvard.edu (George Nassiopoulos) writes:
| Can anyone offer me any information/advice as
| to what I would have to look forward to if we
| wanted to add a couple of SGI's to this network?
| Is anyone currently managing such a mixture?

Yes, in reverse.  We have several thousand SGI systems,
and a few dozen Suns :)

| How well would NFS work mounting the SUN filesystem
| on the SGI and vice versa?

Works just fine both ways.

| Is there any problem accessing the SUN NIS master
| databases from the SGI's? Would SUN's NIS work on
| the SGI's?

No problem either direction.  You will probably want
to add some of the SGI specific services to the services
map though, if you use a Sun as the server.

| Does SGI have an automounter program, or would i
| have to obtain amd off the network? Does amd work
| on the SGI's?

Yes, we have the automounter, and yes, we have customers
using amd.

| Are there any problems with performing file system
| dumps from the SGI's remotely to the SUN's?

None that I know of (either direction).  Note that dump
doesn't exist on SGI systems prior to IRIX 4.0, but rdump
to a 3.3 IRIX system should work (I haven't personally tested
it).
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because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: ft1wf@ft1sparc (Werner Fleck)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Nameserver
Date: 15 Apr 92 09:28:15 GMT
Reply-To: fleck@tu-harburg.dbp.de

claude@bauv106.informatik.unibw-muenchen.de (Claude Frantz (RZ)) writes:
: Hello !
: 
: is it possible to run a nameserver or to use an external nameserver
: without having NIS running ?
: 
: Thanx in advance
: Claude

In the german magazine ix, 9/91, pp 123-127, is an article "Name Dropping -
Resolver-Library fuer SunOS ab 4.1". There one can find how to set up a
name server with and without NIS.
Werner

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mcdonley@possum.den.mmc.com (Alan Patrick Mcdonley)
Subject: Re: summary: ls -l replies "Arguments too long."
Organization: Martin Marietta Astronautics, Denver
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:27:01 GMT


we have seen this problem with csh on HP9000/700s.
one solution was use ksh.  That won't be avail to you 
on Sun very easily.  

Since our problem was with make as well as ls *.C, we have
to build these hellacious object archives (150MB) for our
10MB executable. (our directory has 450 files of 30 character
file names)

Good Luck
Alan McDonley
mcdonley@pogo.den.mmc.com
From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Looking for "tip" HELP!
Keywords: tip unix utility
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:55:07 GMT
Organization: cic

bobf@verdix.com (Bob Foery) writes:

>We are using the tip utility to download s-record files to several VMEbus
>cards.  Often, the s-record download will fail due to a problem on the
>target board.

You missed to include a description of the commands you are using,
so I have to guess. You are probably using either ~t[ake] or
~<.

These commands wait for an end-of-file character. Your transfer is hung
at the end because it is waiting for this character, which is one of
the set specified in the ie capability in /etc/remote.

>The problem is that tip is still in the "copy mode", and the seemingly only way
>to exit is to use ~^Z.  After doing this, subsequent tries to tip to the serial
>port (/dev/ttya) fail with the message "all ports busy".

This (secondary) problems stems from the fact that ~^Z does *not* exit
tip. It just suspends it. Either you exit with ~. or ~^D, or you kill
the two processes that you can find in the output of ps, both named tip.

>If we attempt to delete the lock file (/var/spool/locks/LCK..ttya), subsequent
>tip attempts fail with "link down".

A good error message, isn't it? It means "something failed, but I don't
know what or why."

>At present, the only solution we know of is to reboot the workstation.  Does
>anyone know of a better, less painful solution?

See above.

>BTW, we are running SunOS4.1.1 on SPARCstation IPCs.

This is standard tip behaviour.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: andy@mks.com (Andy Toy)
Subject: Re: CDROM on a Sun 4/280?
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 04:31:59 GMT
Organization: Mortice Kern Systems, Inc., Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA

I just noticed an advertisement in SunWorld by Hitachi for a SPARC
CD-ROM drive.  I called Hitachi Canada and they said that it is the
model 1750SS (note the two S's).  The 1750S can be upgraded to the
1750SS by a ROM upgrade.  Unfortunately the 1750SS won't work on
machines that the 1750S worked on.  They said that they would have a
model out later in the year that is switchable between 1750S and 1750SS
mode.  i.e. it'll work on SPARCs, PCs, et cetera...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: ken@startek.com (Ken Descoteaux)
Subject: Re: 4.1.2 cron and daylight savings time
Organization: Star-Tek, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:47:54 GMT

In article <1992Apr5.201702@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov> karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov (Karl A. Anderson) writes:
>In article <1992Apr5.201017.14981@cs.tulane.edu>, mb@cs.tulane.edu (Mark
>Benard) writes:
>|> Cron jobs on a Sun 670MP stopped running after the time change this
>|> morning. It looks like cron just forgot the crontab entries, because
>|> as soon as I editted the entries, cron starting running the jobs as
>|> specified. This happened with user news.  I am not sure about root,
>|> because there were no root jobs scheduled.
>|> 
>|> Did this happen elsewhere?  With SunOS 4.1.1?
>
>It happened to me also - 4.1.2.  My nightly network backup didn't go -
>seems like cron just "forgot".
>--
>Karl A. Anderson		| Internet: karl@thuja.gsfc.nasa.gov
>NASA/GSFC code 920.2 (STX)	| voice: (301) 286-3815
>Greenbelt, MD 20771		| #include "std_disclaimer"

This happened at our site as well. I'm a little curious to find out
where/how the switch to Daylight Savings Time occurred. I can find no
reference to it anywhere and it happened entirely automatically. 

I have a theory as to why cron became brain-dead. I believe that cron
has a certain minimum granularity as to when it performs the jobs in
the crontab. So it would seem that cron "sleeps" in some fashion. If
it does this by sleeping until time X:YZ and that time never occurs
(because its been skipped over during the switch to DST) then perhaps
that explains why it just zones out.. it goes to sleep forever. And,
at least at our site, it doesn't recover 24 hours later.. probably the
date is encoded in its 'sleep target'.  I don't recall what happened
when the time is set back to standard time in the fall.  I would guess 
that if my theory is correct, then crontab entries that fall within
the extra hour don't get run twice because crontab sleeps for that
whole extra hour. 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: per@erix.ericsson.se (Per Hedeland)
Subject: Re: Loop back file system questions.
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 11:39:16 GMT

In article <299@romana.Tymnet.COM> jms@romana.Tymnet.COM (Joe Smith) writes:
>  if (! -d $HOME/usr/bin) mount -t lo -r /usr $HOME/usr

Be warned though that -r doesn't work right with loopback filesystems
for some (any?) versions of SunOS - I tested it right now on 4.1.1, and
it prevents *creation* of files, but not modification or removal
(weird...). There might be a patch...

On the original subject, another use I've been putting loopback mounts
to is moving e.g. /tmp and /var out of the root partition, while still
not on partitions of their own - symlinks would do it too, but then the
directories don't exist until the other filesystem(s) are mounted, e.g.
in single-user. Works great for our Sparc clients, which have root on the
server, but /tmp and /var (and swap of course:-) on the local disk.

--Per Hedeland
per@erix.ericsson.se  or
per%erix.ericsson.se@sunic.sunet.se  or
...uunet!erix.ericsson.se!per
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: mt -f /dev/nrst0 retension does not work for Exabyte
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:53:38 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>Excuse me, but what does the -t option do?  The man page has a -f listed and
>that is all.

"-t" is an alias for "-f"; it's been that way since at least 4.3BSD.  I
guess they're "tape" and "file", respectively; dunno why Berkeley gives
official sanction only to "-f".  (Vendors such as Sun are presumably
just following in their footsteps.)
From: peter@aucs.acadiau.ca (Peter Steele)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: OW3.0 installation is not funny (nor is 4.1
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:14:44 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

>We also received no documents on how to install 4.1.2 or OpenWin 3.0
>just CD's.  We were definatly not happy about it.

I received manuals for both and both installed without incident....
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Acadia University, Wolfville, NS   Tel: 902-542-2201   Fax: 902-542-4364
From: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: SCSI drives for Sun 3/60
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:24:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: ftms.155
Reply-To: brown@ftms.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Other Hangout

In article <1992Apr8.071116.1628@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu> jel8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Jason E Levine) writes:
<A question related to my one about SunOS 4.1.1 -- I have a SCSI drive in
<that machine right now (it's somewhere between 100 and 120 Mb, although
<I can't really say exactly where... I believe it is 117).  I think that
<I will need to get a new drive to expand the capacity on that machine.
<In this vein, I need to ask a few things:
<
<1) Am I right in thinking that I can just `daisy-chain' another SCSI drive
<   off of the one currently in the machine?  (There is a SCSI out port on
<   the back of the shoebox; I am somewhat familiar with PC SCSI drives, but
<   I am not sure if the same theories hold true.)

I currently have four SCSI hard drives and one QIC-150 tape drive on my
Sun 3/60.  I am running 4.1.

You will be able to jumper from one shoebox to the next.  But, if there isn't
an external load on your current shoebox, then you will have to open it up
and remove the terminators from the drive.  Whatever you have for your last
SCSI device will need the terminators.  One of the drives is even wired into
the SCSI buss precariously(?).  But it works great.  But it will not if the
termination is missing or incorrect.

<2) Would anyone out there like to recommend a SCSI drive?  I think that my
<   goal capacity on that computer will be about 225-300 Mb.  Thus, any 
<   drive from about 100 Mb to 200 Mb would be about right.

I am currently running the following on my system:

        0. sd0 at si0 slave 0
           sd0: <CDC Wren VI 94191-766 cyl 1624 alt 2 hd 15 sec 53>
        1. sd2 at si0 slave 8
           sd2: <ST41200N cyl 1929 alt 2 hd 15 sec 70>
        2. sd4 at si0 slave 16
           sd4: <CDC Wren IV 94171-376 cyl 1547 alt 2 hd 9 sec 45>
        3. sd6 at si0 slave 24
           sd6: <CDC Wren IV 94171-376 cyl 1547 alt 2 hd 9 sec 45>

<3) What are the prices on these drives?  I have never had to buy hardware
<   for Suns; if you remember my post yesterday about the position I'm in
<   with this Sun, you'd realize why.  What are ballpark prices for drives
<   in general?

The drives are in the $2k ballpark.  I do not suggest getting a small drive.
You will find that the space will vanish real fast otherwise.  A good drive
would be the 3.5" ST1480N, a 424 MB drive that is < $2k.  We use them for
SPARCstation add-ons.
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From: leif@ifm.liu.se (Leif Hedstrom)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Backup to Exabyte tape
Keywords: Backup, Exabyte, Several Filesystems
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:07:13 GMT
Organization: Dept of Physics, University of Linkoping

(Hi, I'm pretty sure this is a FAQ, but I'll send it anyway! ;-)

We have several filesystem that we want to do incremental backups off.
The question is: How can I dump (or gnutar) several savesets on the
same tape? Using "mt -f /dev/rst2 asf #" before writing to the tape
don't work for me. Am I doing something wrong? Its seems a bit silly only
to use a fragment of the tapes storage capacity...

-- Leif
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.admin:2535 comp.sys.sun.hardware:1714 comp.sys.sun.wanted:668
From: brogers@Auspex.COM (Bob Rogers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.wanted
Subject: Sun Discounts
Keywords: Sun, Discounts
Date: 16 Apr 92 01:03:18 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Sun network managers, and Sun users receiving new 6XX server equipment or in 
the process of ordering new 6XX server equipment if you have not received a
70% discount from Sun please email me.

Email only please, I will summarize the responses.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jpd@pc.usl.edu (Dugal James P.)
Subject: Re: Why do clients hang when server reboots
Keywords: login
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern La., Lafayette
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:19:48 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.181855.19266@protocol.com> kenw@protocol.com (Ken West) writes:
>...The problem is that login hangs
>on the client machines whenever the server reboots.  Furthermore,
>rsh and rlogin from the server also hangs although ping does work.

I think this is the problem adressed by patch 100342-02, related to NIS
and ypbind.  I felt that the patch was too draconian (they warned about
broadcast storms, if I recall correctly) so I didn't install it.

Regards,
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Can GNU C be used as a replacement for /bin/cc in SunOS 4.1.2?
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 1992 23:27:16 GMT

The compiler is *NOT* unbundled in 4.1.2.  I should know, the machine
I'm posting this from has a perfectly capable copy of the compiler on
it, right off the 4.1.2 CD-ROM.  5.0, on the other hand, will have an
unbundled compiler.

[This stated up front to prevent any panic.]

Now, assuming he really means 5.0...

 Philip> == Philip Anglin <pjangli@afterlife.ncsc.mil> 

 Philip> Now that the compiler is unbundled in 4.1.2, I am considering not
 Philip> paying for it and using GNU instead. Can this be done?

Cygnus Support is working on this.  For $2K (the current price of the
Sun unbundled compiler) they will work on a port, support it for you for
a year, etc.  (You can get it free without paying the $2K, of course,
since it's GNUware, but if you support the port, they'll support you.)

 Philip> Does GNU include everything that Sun will leave out?

Cygnus says they'll do their best on this, and refund your money if needed.

 Philip> Do I need any libraries or tools (e.g. make,sccs)?

Again, they will supply everything they can.

 Philip> What, if anything, does Sun leave out besides /bin/cc?

We don't know yet.

 Philip> How can I obtain GNU source?
 Philip> (ftp is not an option. Unless things have changed, the
 Philip> security boys here are so paranoid of viruses, trojan
 Philip> horses, etc that we aren't allowed to take stuff off
 Philip> this machine and put it on the machines we work on.)

It will be put on the Catalyst "demo" CD-ROM once Cygnus finishes, and
they can also send you a copy on tape if you sign up to support the port.

For more details on the port, mail info@cygnus.com.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: ameres@sol.ral.rpi.edu (Eric Ameres)
Subject: Swap space
Followup-To: Need Help! Swap Space
Summary: Solved swap space thanks
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 19:04:28 GMT

Thanks to everyone who sent suggestions on my problem.
xy0b was indeed the swap partition, xy1b was a partition that
was just hanging out unused so I grabbed it for swap space.

Thanks again
Eric

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