From: GEORGE@UMBC.BITNET (YORGOS M. MALTAS)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.hellas
Subject: Ivdiavoi kai PFK
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:41:00 GMT
Reply-To: "YORGOS M. MALTAS" <GEORGE@UMBC.BITNET>
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Eivai katapiesmevoi oi Ivdiavoi, vai n' ou?

H apavtnsn mou 0a avafer0ei stnv ugeia, paideia, oikovomikn
avaptu3n kai egklnmatikotnta twv American-Indians...
Prepei va snmeiw0ei oti n bibliografia gia tous American-Indians
eivai elaxistn (kai auto deixvei polla)...

1. Ygeia: To 1831 to Avwtato Dikastnrio twv HPA diekurn3e oti (Cherokee
          Nation vs. Georgia) oi diafores omades Ivdiavwv eprepe va xaraktnri-
          stouv sav "domestic dependent nations"  kai n sxesn tous me tnv
          Amerikavikn kubervnsn "resembles that of a ward to his guardian."
          To Kogkresso (pou eivai aln0eia oti exei dia0esei orismeva snmavtika
          posa), ta states kai oi apofaseis apo federal dikastnria APOFASIZAN
          se poious American-Indians 0a divovtav ugeiovomikes paroxes, poios
          0a tis plnrwve klp.
          Opws eipame to Kogkresso die0ese kapoia lefta, alla ta dikastnria
          0ewrousav auto to etnsio eisodnma sav voluntary (kai koita3te ta
          dikngorika le3ika sas gia va deite pws metafrazetai n le3n) gia to
          Kogkresso. Voluntary, kuries/oi, snmaivei oti ta lefta auta mporousav
          va kopouv opoiadnpote stigmn (pou snmaivei oti oi apofaseis tou
          Kogkressou e3upnretousav politikes skopimotntes).
          TO ZOYMI: (a) Ta lefta pou divovtav gia ugeiovomikes paroxes (ka0ws
          kai gia paideia klp) se mn takta xrovika diastnmata ntav giati oi
          Ivdiavoi dev eixav (n' dev ekavav) arketa lefta gia va e3upnretnsouv
          tis avgkes tous...
                    (b) Oi ugeiovomikes paroxes dev apotelousav kai dev apote-
          louv, akoma kai snmera, dikaiwma...
          SHMEIWSH: eivai gegovos oti exei beltiw0ei arketa n katastasn, alla
          oi statistikes gia tous 0avatous veogvwv, gia ta infectious diseases
          eivai akoma asuvn0ista megales. Episns ta pososta autoktovias eivai
          kai auta asuvn0ista megala (pou snmaivei oti avtimetwpizouv $uxolo-
          gika problnmata). Oi arxngoi tous mas leve oti auta ta "afusika"
          faivomeva proerxovtai apo tnv epafn tous me "dutikes" suvn0eies.
          Emeis twv koivwikwv epistnmwv sumfwvoume...

2. Paideia: Dustuxws to Amerikaviko sustnma Paideias stnrizetai, opws allwste
            kai polla alla, se u$nlous ba0mous, "$nla" standards, tests kai
            stulizarismeva gevika programmata pou prooorizovtai, kat' apoklei-
            stikotnta, se aspra paidakia (pou snmaivei oti to sustnma auto dev
            perilambavei diafores avamesa se individuals kai groups). Poios
            milnse gia sebasmo mias koultouras?...
            TO ZOYMI: H douleia dev givetai giati: 1)ta reservations briskovtai
          se a0lia oikovomikn katastasn pou snmaivei oti n paideia erxetai
          PANTA deutern ($wmi kuries/oi), 2)poios 0a paei va dida3ei ekei ama
          dev plnrwvetai, ama dev uparxouv ta mesa?
          Omws oi ma0ntes pou briskovtai e3w apo reservations pngaivouv polu
          kalutera apo tous ma0ntes twv reservations (ma pws givetai loipov
          kai oi mev va eivai pio e3upvoi apo tous de - kai oi duo idia `ratsa'
          dev eivai?).

3. Oikovomikn): Eivai gegovos oti dev uparxei kammia oikovomikn avaptu3n mesa
   Avaptu3n  )  sta reservations. Prepei va snmeiw0ei oti exei epel0ei mia
                allagn omws, ALLA as mnv 3exvame oti n opoiadnpote bon0eia
          apo to Kogkresso eivai opws eipame voluntary kai erxetai MONON otav
          e3upnretouvtai politika sumferovta...

4. Egklnmatikotnta: Oi ereuves twv koivwvikwv epistnmwv eivai polu liges.
          OMWS gvwrizoume oti: uparxouv megala problnmata alkoolismou.
          Giati? Ama diabasete ta parapavw 0a katalabete...

Telos, av n episke$n tou PFK stous Navajo ntav opws autn me tous astegous
sto Washington DC (pou mas dnlwse tote oti autoi oi av0rwpoi dev upoferouv
giati tous frovtizei n kubervnsn) tote 0a suvistousa n' va diabasei kava
biblio parapavw (apo keiva twv e3tremistwv koivoviologwv kai av0rwpologwv)
n' va rwtnsei kava sxetiko me to zntnma n' va pa va znsei mazi tous gia va
tous apavtn0ouv ta "e kai loipov?" tou...

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