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From: grimaldo@tokyo.seri.philips.nl (Emilio Grimaldo)
Subject: Re: Eurail pass 
Organization: Philips Semiconductors, The Netherlands 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 07:07:50 GMT

Eh, I must say that the Benelux pass does NOT exist anymore, the German Rail
Pass has also disappeared. These passes are now replaced by what the call
Eurodomino, available for most countries in Europe. The prices are different
for high and low seasons, 1st or 2nd class. It requires no supplements and it
is valid for unlimited travel any 5 days in a period of 21 days.


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Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us (Louis Koziarz)
Subject: Hurricane effects on Bahamas?
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 16:06:26 GMT

I'm planning a trip to the Bahamas sometime this fall, and I'm curious as
to how much damage they suffered from hurricane Andrew.  Specifically I'm
interested in hearing about Grand Bahama I. and the Abacos I.  Does anyone
have any info, or perhaps been there in the last few days?  
Thanks in advance...


-- 

                 ___________________________________________
                  Louis Koziarz
                  koziarz@chinet.chi.il.us
Xref: sparky rec.travel:13203 soc.culture.usa:7287
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.usa
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive ignorant foreigners
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:12:07 EST
Followup-To: dev/null
 <1992Sep9.011205.14237@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> <9097@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM>
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <9097@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM>, mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:
> In <1992Sep9.011205.14237@olymp.informatik.uni-bonn.de> volker@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Volker A. Brandt ) writes:
> 
>>In article <1992Aug31.134741.13471@sinix.UUCP> ian@sinix.UUCP (Ian Malone) writes:
> IM:more Americans travel
> 
> VB:I can't stop laughing.  What utter nonsense.  How long since you went back
> VB:home?  Care to check out some statistics?  Number of trips abroad per capita?
> VB:I think you'll find that Germans, for instance, travel 4 to 5 times (no exact
> VB:numbers in my brain today :-) more than the average US consumer.  Abroad, that
> VB:is.
> 
> Please check your reading comprehension, it  may be due for an overhaul.
> 
> Ian specifically said travel, not travel abroad.  There is a very big
> difference.  Here in the States you can easily travel 2000 to 3000 miles
> (3000 to 5000 km (?)) and still not have travelled abroad.  How many
> Europeans can say that.  Some of those countries are so small you need a
> tourist visa to fall down.

	Hey, I like that!  "Tourist visa to fall down" :D

> BTW if you think that by travelling within the US we are not exposed to
> different cultures, you have probably been watching too much of our
> television.

	Hey, don't you know:  Rude New Yorkers in the east, farmboys all the
way until you get to that western cowboy area.
	That's all there is.

> VB:Apparently, you don't open your eyes to see.  Sure it's nice to go out and 
> VB:buy two sixpacks, a video tape and a canary from the big supermarket next door
> VB:at three in the morning.  But think of the black single mother who has to 
> VB:stand at the register all night, for minimum wages ... two sides to every coin.

	Ahhh, America.  Where people can work when they want, where they want,
whenever they want.
	Oh, just as a reality check, last time I went into to buy groceries,
the checkout person was a white male and the manager was a black female.
	(Oooo, those evil stereotypes!)

> BTW, I suppose you believe staying at home on welfare is better than working
> at a less than desirable job.

	That, or that everyone should be paid exactly the same, no matter what
job it is.

Brett                                                      
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Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: YOSEMITE LODGE PHONE NUMBER?
From: T.D.Sadlier@massey.ac.nz (T.D. Sadlier)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 00:32:07 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c

Does anyone have a phone number for Yosemite Lodge?  I have a
friend (Jack Peters) who drives tourists around the Park and who
lives there and I'll be in San Francisco from 17-19 September (next
week and would like to give him a call.  Any help would be
appreciated.  Thanks

Tanya Sadlier
Xref: sparky rec.travel:13248 soc.culture.german:6593
From: wido@isgtec.com (Wido Menhardt)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.german
Subject: Re: car rental in Deutschland
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:31:21 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Fred Rump from home (fr@compu.com) wrote:
: Can anybody offer advice as to rentals out of Frankfurt? What's the going rate 
: over there - being the dollar is now worth only one or two tires instead of 
: four?
: 
: Is it best to arrange rentals here with US companies? Any experience either 
: way? I need a vehicle for two weeks. Do I need to get an international 
: license?


I recently used Europcar (out of HH, but that makes no difference). I had
my travel agent here make the arrangements (it was called Euro-Tarif or
something like that). I paid 27 Marks per day for a category A car (Opel
Corsa), which they did not have, so I actually got a Polo. You understand
that size and speed was not a criterion for me. My Visa covered the CDW,
so I think that's a pretty good deal. It had unlimited milage, and I
dropped it in another city (Berlin) without a penalty. I didn't need an
international license.
:
From: neve@nlm.nih.gov (Leif Neve)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Where to buy Danish videos?
Keywords: Danish, videos
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:31:06 GMT
Reply-To: neve@nlm.nih.gov
Organization: National Library of Medicine

Anyone know of a mail-order place in the US for getting Danish videos?

BTW - We're talking "non-porn" here,  OK? I don't find that type to be
particularly good at helping one brush up on one's Danish....

Leif Neve
From: dfw@thumper..bellcore.com (Doris Woods)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Info on Duck NC needed
Summary: Bonfires?
Keywords: Asheville
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:14:28 GMT
Reply-To: dfw@thumper.UUCP (Doris Woods)
Organization: Bellcore MRE


    We rented a house on the beach in Duck NC around the end of 
sept.  3 questions:

 1) Is the weather and the water still warm enough to swim around this
    time. (In NJ it starts getting a bit to cool to swim)

 2) Any good places to eat that are a must?
 
 3) Can you make a fire on the beach. We would like to have a 
    clambake and thought it might be fun on the beach. In NJ
    beachfires are illeagal.

     Thanks
      Doris
Xref: sparky rec.travel:13239 rec.food.restaurants:2007
From: aperrin1@cc.swarthmore.edu (Andrew J. Perrin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.food.restaurants
Subject: Re: Need info on Boston, Cape Cod, Newport, RI, and Providence
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:18:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Swarthmore College

In article <kiran.716537725@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>,
kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:

> In Providence, the place to be is Al Forno (or Lucky's.)  The grilled
> pizza at Al Forno is exquisite, worth the drive from TN (or IN or anyplace else
> within 1000 miles or so.  They also have desserts made to order, which
> must be ordered with the meal.  I hope to get back there for a full meal
> sometime.  Not cheap but worth it I think.
I disagree; I found the food at Al Forno's very nice but not exquisite, the
wait absurd (ca. 2 hours) and the atmosphere stuffy.  Not to mention
higher-than-average prices.  The Boston area has better to offer, and if
you must do Providence I'd stick with Indian food, which the Brown Univ.
area has plenty of.


> Cape Cod is a place to avoid at all costs.  Unless of course you like
> traffic jams, crowds, silly touron attractions, and bad food.  
Oy!  The Cape is gorgeous, especially once the tourists are gone.  If you
make it all the way out to Provincetown, and it's still open (I don't know
if it's seasonal or not) try Sal's Place for terrific Italian/seafood.
From: rsk@aspen.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Asheville, NC info wanted
Keywords: Asheville
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:06:34 GMT
Organization: Cardiothoracic Imaging Research Center

In article <1992Sep8.145551.1715@b11.b11.ingr.com> lhughes@b11.b11.ingr.com (Lawrence Hughes) writes:
>Another neat place is Natahala Outdoor Center, with good whitewater sports,
>fine "counterculture" restaurant, etc. About 30 miles west of Cherokee on
>US 74/19 (avoid as much US 19 as you can). There are "rustic" logdings in
>the area, if you want to "go native".

The Nantahala Outdoor Center, also known as "NOC", is THE whitewater
paddling school.  As Oxford is to academics, NOC is to whitewater.
Their instructors' list reads like a who's who of whitewater paddling
champions, and their techniques are as advanced as you will find.
To top it off, they are friendly people who enjoy sharing what they
know, and who can teach paddlers at any level.

If you're going to be in the Asheville area, and you think you might
want to learn to kayak or canoe, call them at (704) 488-6737.

---Rsk

[ I'm not affiliated with NOC. ]
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: akg@iscp.bellcore.com (Anjan Ghosal)
Subject: Info needed on Greece in Winter
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 18:27:04 GMT


I had some specific questions about travel/lodging in Greece 
in the month of November

1. Anyone heard about a travel agency out of Washington DC
   called Oddessy (sp) Travel that caters to tourists to 
   Greece. They told me that they would require payment in
   check for making hotel reservations. Is that a normal 
   practice as against VISA payments?

2. Is the European hotel chain Sophital (sp) in Greece ?

3. Is accomodation available at this time of the year at 
   Santorini ? I was told that only Crete and Rhodes have
   accomodation that time of the year.

4. Are ferry boats a good way to travel to the islands that
   time or is flying a better option.


Thanks
Anjan Ghosal
From: edgarrd@castle.ed.ac.uk (Dominguez)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Eurocheque cards
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:42:50 GMT
Distribution: eunet
Organization: Edinburgh University


Hello there,

I will be traveling around the continent from the last week of september
and I would like to hear of experiences using an eurocheque book and
card to pay in the places I go, or to cash money in foreigner banks. I will
be most of the time in western europe but I will go to Hungary and 
Checoslovaquia for some days as well. The topics points I would like to hear
about are (any comments are welcome after all):

1. Is it more convenient than bringing just traveler cheques in pounds
or even in marks ?

2. How well accepted is it in western Europe and the main cities of
Hungary and Checoslovaquia

The card I will get is from the Nat West Bank.


Thanks a lot,

Edgar.

Internet edgarrd@castle.ed.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: giand@opencon.com (Deepak S. Gianchandani)
Subject: Re: TWA - The  Worst Airline
Followup-To: giand@opencon.com
Summary: I don't think so
Organization: OpenCon Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 23:41:18 GMT

In article <31AUG199215303917@rigel.tamu.edu> jzh2485@rigel.tamu.edu (HINTON, JOHNNY ZANE) writes:
>	Well, I thought that I should warn the world that I finally
>	figured out what TWA stands for while traveling on their 
>	airlines from Dallas, Tx to New York City  ------- The
>	Worst Airline.  Keywords:  Flight cancelled and airline
>	staff rude and surly.
>
>			John Z.  -  jzh2485@rigel.tamu.edu

	John, I have traveled on all the major airlines, at one time
	or another every airline due to some reasons cancels a flight.
	I will agree with you that the TWA staff had no right to be
	rude.  Did you get a chance to call the airline before you
	arrived at the airport to find out if the fight was to be
	delayed or cancelled -- in addition, you don't also mention if
	they accomodated you on the next flight or did they leave you
	on your own??? TWA from my experiance has been a good airline
	and has a good frequent flyer plan.


	Deepak

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: cheese3@ioc.unibe.ch (Daniel Hirschi)
Subject: Damage to Kauai???
Organization: Institute of Organic Chemistry
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 09:53:14 GMT
X-Posted-From: cheese3.unibe.ch
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Hello everybody!

My wife and I had planned a trip to Kauai starting Oct. 9th., to go hiking, 
scuba diving and enjoying ourselves. Now, because of that Hurricane, should 
we cancel, should we go? How bad are the damages? It is very difficult to 
judge from the info we get from the newspapers in Switzerland. 

Thank you!

Daniel Hirschi
Inst. for organic Chemistry
University of Bern
Switzerland

E-Mail: Hirschi@ioc.unibe.ch
From: moir@cs.umd.edu (Mark Moir)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Travel to New Zealand
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:30:32 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <5712@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> ramanath+@pitt.edu (Jayaram Ramanathan) writes:
>I'm planning on visiting New Zealand for about 2 weeks this December, and
>would like to obtain some information that would be useful for this trip:
>

>2. Deals on accomodation and travel in New Zealand - I plan on
>   being in and around Auckland.
>3. Tips on things not to be missed, and general info on weather

I have a tip about things not to be missed.  The rest of the country!  There
is absolutely no point in spending several thousand dollars, and 24 hours on
a plane (not to mention 12 more in airports) just to see Auckland.  I 
wouldn't consider it worth a two hour drive unless something special was
happening.  I'm sure others will give some detailed suggestions about
other places to visit and things to do in our wonderful country.  Have fun!

Cheers

Mark

PS.  Take me with you!
From: tjensen@unlinfo.unl.edu (theresa jensen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Costa Rica
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:25:06 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln

In my last posting for information on Costa Rica I specified only the 
Nebraska, Iowa area.  Actually I would like to hear from anyone who 
has information on Costa Rica.  My friend seemed to think that a 
number of people from this area had been to this country, thats the 
only reason I  specified it.  I have heard from one person already.  
Anybody else out there?
Thanks in advance
tjensen@unl.edu
Theresa
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: frank2@underdog.ee.wits.ac.za (FRANK D N)
Subject: Re: Eurail Pass and Supplements.
Organization: Wits Electrical Engineering (Undergrads).
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 12:02:08 GMT

In article <10060038@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> del@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (David Larson) writes:

>I have traveled through much of Europe on the Eurail pass.  Supplements are
>not normally paid when using the pass.

>There are two exceptions:
>        1. Seat reservation fees are paid by you.  These are generally
>           a couple of dollars.  Reservations are optional on most trains
>           but are required on the TGV and a few other individual trains.
>        2. Special accomodations, such as sleepers or couchette, are not
>           covered by the pass and must be paid by you.  The cost varies
>           a lot depending on the accomodation and the distance.


When I Eurailed at the beginning of last year, it seemed as if there were 
some special trains that required a supplemental payment just to travel on 
them; seat or couchette booking cost still extra. These trains are indicated 
by means of the initials "IC" (I think) on timetables and station notice 
boards.

I found that it wasn't necessary to pay this supplement. On most occasions, 
the conductors didn't ask for it. When they did, they seemed convinced 
when I told them that the station booking office had said a supplement was
not needed for that train on a Eurail pass  ;-)


David




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University of the Witwatersrand   {}  but had rejected it, because he didn't
Johannesburg                      {}  want to give up power" Arther C. Clarke
From: root@netdev.comsys.com (Operator)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Suggestions ? Planning trip from Dallas to San Diego
Date: 7 Sep 92 06:24:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Communication Systems Research


 I'm planning a driving trip from Dallas TX to San Diego, then up to
San Jose, and on to Seattle. The trip will last about 2 weeks.

 I want to camp along the way. The planned route ( so far ), is to
stop in Santa Fe, then on to Flagstaff and the GCanyon NP, ( south rim )
then Sendona ( verona? ), then where ? So far, it is just guess work.

 Any comments on camping along the way is much appreciated. ( Hoteling 
it at reasonable place, or other interesting stops you might suggest
is appreciated too. ) 

 I've never driven the route, so any suggestions on what to avoid, and
what not to miss would be great too.

 Thanks in advance.

 -Alex

-- 
Alex Huppenthal			Communication Systems Research
alex@netdev.comsys.com		Dallas, Texas 75252
texsun!netdev!alex
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: arussell@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (ANNE RUSSELL)
Subject: greek tours
Reply-To: arussell@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 14:49:28 GMT

We'll be in Athens and Crete a few days each and would like to take some day
tours. Should we try to book them in the states or go to a travel agency 
when we get there? If we should wait til we get there, any recommendations
on good agencies or are they all about the same? 

(We'll be taking a ferry from Santorini to Crete and flying into Athens.)

thanks

Anne Russell
From: petersonk@skcla.monsanto.com (Karen, x7445)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Outdoor vacation in Montana/Wyoming
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:11:37 GMT

I'm going to be in Bozeman, Montana next June for a meeting, and I thought 
this would be the perfect area to spend an extra week or two on vacation.
I'm wondering if anyone can offer suggestions on either outfitters or
maybe even a ranch in Montana or Wyoming.  I love the outdoors and was
considering a horseback camping trip through Yellowstone.  Any insight or
suggestions are most welcome.

Thanks

Karen Peterson

Petersonk@clstr.monsanto.com
From: hjb@otter.hpl.hp.com (Harry Barman)
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:24:46 GMT
Subject: Re: Cambridge
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.travel

As the previous poster says - the best thing is to walk around the town
centre.  You should be able to get a map from the Tourist Information office
in the centre of town.  The main things to see are the colleges, most the
the scenic ones are alongside the river Cam, so you can usually work out some
kind of tour that takes in most of the major ones.

The tourist office can tell you about all the major sights.

Cheers,

Harry
From: jms@informix.com (Jack Stephens)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: mendecino B&B ??
Date: 14 Sep 92 22:14:05 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

It's been decided that we need to get out of town, and I ( the me part of
we !) wold like to find a nice place (either a B&B or a cottage rental) on 
the Mendecino coast for a long weekend in early October.

Any recommendations ?

Thanks much!

Jack
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| Performance Analysis  "And the wind sang a song of longing and need     |
| Informix Software                    as the road rolled out before me." |
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: pruss@helix.nih.gov (dmitry pruss)
Subject: Re: For visitors to Moscow - offer (Some summary)
Organization: National Institutes of Health, Bethesda
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:43:12 GMT

In article <ABMemhgiV7@smena.russia.msk.su> SV@smena.russia.msk.su writes:
(unfortunately, he ommits any quotes/refs.)
>
>One advise for Nancy and Julie: try to extend your knowledge of the world,
>not limiting yourself in the borders of your own country only.
>
>Your remarks are so  far from any understanding of economical situation
>in Russia...  For $5 per night here you may find a room in a flat of your
>closest friend only.

:) :) Hey, free-economy-man, there're people to argue over the net. It's
not like putting an ad to a newspaper ;-)

So just 2c of my personal experience:

I'm currently putting my Moscow 2 BR flat for rent, asking for the best
offer. Offers are actually around $20/mo, unless a potential tenant looks
dangerous and unreliable ;-)

An appartment rental isn't the same business as hotel lodging; but I
wouldexpect fairly possible to find a $5-lodging there. Just dunno.

	D
Newsgroups: rec.travel,soc.culture.german
From: davely@microware.com (Dave Lyons)
Subject: Re: car rental in Deutschland
Keywords: money cost
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:23:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.020918.26608@compu.com>, fr@compu.com (Fred Rump from home) writes:
|> Can anybody offer advice as to rentals out of Frankfurt? What's the going rate 
|> over there - being the dollar is now worth only one or two tires instead of 
|> four?
|> 
|> Is it best to arrange rentals here with US companies? Any experience either 
|> way? I need a vehicle for two weeks. Do I need to get an international 
|> license?
|> 
|> Fred
|> -- 
|> W. Fred Rump 	office:	   fred@COMPU.COM     'mans feet have grown/so big 
|> 26 Warren St.   home: fred@icdi10.compu.com  that he/forgets his littleness'
|> Beverly, NJ. 08010                          		Don Marquis 
|> 609-386-6846    bang:uunet!cdin-1!icdi10!fr   

I arranged a car with Hertz through my travel agent.  I can't remember the exact
figure but it was around $250.00 for 8 days with unlimited mileage.  This was 
back in May when the dollar was going for about DM 1.56.  I picked the car up
at the Frankfurt airport and dropped it off at Paris Orly but didn't have to
pay a drop fee because the car I got was a French one.  Neither Hertz nor 
Interent, whom I've also rented from, required an international license so I 
assume you can get by with just your U.S. one.  Have fun on the Autobahn 8^)

-- 
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|          my opinions                |               77's                 |
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jennie@cs.cmu.edu (Jennifer Kay)
Subject: Re: Hurricane effects on Bahamas?
Organization: CMU Vision and Autonomous Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:23:20 GMT

 I just got back from a trip to the Bahamas -- we stayed in Freeport and Lucaya on 
Grand Bahama Island. Everything was absolutely fine. We arrived two days after the
hurricane passed through the area, and the locals said they had some high winds,
but not really anything too unusual. Nothing at all looked bad.

Now some of the other islands in the Bahamas (notably Eluthra) were hit very badly,
but I can't tell you much about that.

-- Jennie
Newsgroups: rec.travel