HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tsl@eng.umd.edu (Tom Livingston)
Subject: Re: all these flames
Organization: Institute for Systems Research, UofM
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:35:18 GMT

	Oh, here we go again.  Here's some panzy from bitnet that's trying
to play high-and-mighty net.cop to the rest of us.  What if we still flame
badly, buddy?  Whatcha going to do about it?  Whine that you don't even
have a kill function because you read it through a LISTSERV?  A LISTSERV!
Get out of MVS and get into the real world...

But here goes with his drivel, just so that you boys and girls know what
not to post again:

In article <1992Aug27.194846.6952@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> METZ@vtvm2.bitnet writes:
>I agree 100% with WRAT@UNIS.  If you *must* flame, try to do it with a
	(WRAT@UNIS.  Hahaha, thinking in BITNET again).  Now here's his
problem, displayed for the whole world to see.  He's agreeing with 
original thoughts that (best I can determine) came from the mind of a fuzzy
mammal that couldn't be more than 6 inches tall.  I know he's from bitnet,
but really...  Isn't there some PSUVM'er that you could have traded .gif's
with instead?  And the damn rat can't even spell his name right.

>little creativity and intelligence.  The all-to-crass "You're an
	He talks about displaying creativity and intelligence, and yet
all he's doing is reposting something else in his own words.  Atleast
he can spell.  BTW, I had an alltocrass once, but I traded it in on a 
guitar....  I'm much happier now.

>asshole...No, *you're* an asshole" approach isn't much fun to do or
	Now he's telling us what's fun for ourselves.  Who elected this
guy god, anyway?  Sir, you truly are, an asshole.

>read over the net.  Eventually, the reason for the difference in
>opinions gets lost in the misplaced emotions, and it becomes way too
	Misplaced emotions?  You're saying that I don't really
think you're an asshole?  Well, guess again buddy.  Different opinions
are fine, just don't post them.  Don't you know what the net's for, buddy?
Go read a few FAQ's and you'll discover that the sole purpose of
USENET is to convert the unwashed many to the opinions of a few, in
the know, USENET-Lifers.  It's all in there... didn't read .newusers
enough, did you?  Haha, no one ever does.  (however, we have all given up
on BITNETers)

>personal.  Then, for the rest of us, it sounds like the "couple next
>door"
	Pervert.  Do you listen to them often?  Have .gif's?

>song (insert your favorite one here). (Stuart -- The Dead Milkmen)
>   Flame if you must, but try to be more like a surgical laser than
>a Molotov Cocktail!
	Don't you know anything?  Jesus Christ, now this really pisses
me off.  It's a FLAMETHROWER.  A Goddamn FLAMETHROWER. What is this
Molotov Cocktail crap?  How long you been around here, anyway?  Oh,
I forgot.  BITNET.  Kinda explains everything, eh?

>BTW, Bill (WTR@MITRE.ORG) -- "Not even close"
	I'll be waiting for my rating on the 10 point scale.

(PS - Yeah, I had a really stressful week at work.  BTW, for the humor
impaired, :-)


Tom Livingston					h: 301 434 9066
US Postal Service, PCD				w: 301 925 1058
9200 Basil Ct.
Landover, MD 20785-5390				tsl@alumni.src


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From: Ed Craig <CRAIG@mitvma.mit.edu>
Subject: Tie-dyes
Reply-To: CRAIG@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 13:58:28 GMT

    Walking around MIT the other day, spied a pastel tie-dye, remarkably
clear spiral, so not faded. Looked closer, never had seen one before
where the the pattern on the sleeves didn't match up with the pattern
on the torso, and for that matter the pattern across every seam was
out of alignment....
    Closer examination showed a lack of that bleeding effect, it was
a print, not a dye at all, nor even a batik.
    First time I can recall noticing such obviously mass-produced junk
in a tye-dye pattern. Guess it is in fashion (or maybe it's already
passe?)
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
Edward Craig            CRAIG@MITVMA.MIT.EDU
My opinions and M.I.T.'s occasionally coincide. Occasionally they don't.
    Neither of us worries about it.
"You know I've been a soldier in the armies of the night...."
                                    Mydland/Barlow
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From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: What do the Dead Represent? (was Re: Deadheads)
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:36:42 GMT
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA

In article <1992Aug26.210717.26616@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> sjeck@isi.com writes:
>
>I see the Grateful Dead as a competent Rock 'N' Roll band which does
>some small degree of improvisational music.  I have never considered
>them as representing any political system (well, except maybe capitalism)
>or moral values.
>


>Am I the only one who thinks they are a rock 'n' roll band and 
>NOT a religion of some kind?  Remember the parodies I wrote about
>the religious rituals at Dead shows last summer?  They were parodies.
>

No, your not the only one! They are just musicians practicing their
choosen trade, to a high degree of popularity. But they also represent
for some a symbolic link to either fond memories of youthful days now
past, and for others a link to an almost mythical time they may have not
been able to participate in.

Just a rock 'n' roll band!   

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>|<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< 
>TODD|-ODD-|:-)                   |         Nothing Left To Do But  <
>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
>dtodd@well.sf.ca.us            / | \                               <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>V<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
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From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Re: 2-9-73
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:38:53 GMT

John Trucillo sez:

|I see that a lot of people have 2-9-73 on the tape list listed with 3 sets?? 
|I checked the setlists on gd ftp site and it only looks like 2 sets???  I have 
|this tape and only have 2 sets... Is the 3rd set GD or new riders or what???

No third set for 2-9-73. Could be that people are saying 3 *tapes* on their
lists as the complete show will not fit on 2 tapes (takes about 2 & 1/2).

ODBC: Get a DeadBase! 

-Jeff Lester
From: farbrent!ajr3@ms.uky.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: DAT Decks W/ Variable Speed
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:26:53 GMT
Reply-To: farbrent!ajr3@ms.uky.edu
Organization: The Internet

Somebody asked if any DAT decks were capable of variable speed  
playback. The Sony PCM 7000 series can vary playback within a 

+/- 12.5% range in 0.1% steps.
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From: ECO08528@APPSTATE.EDU (JASON SIGMON)
Subject: GD HOUR
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
Distribution: WORLD
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:54:27 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23


A GRATEFUL HELLO TO ALL THE HEADS HERE ON THE NET BUS.
   THIS JUST A QUICK QUESTION:  I'M HERE IN BOONE, NC AT THE ONE AND ONLY APP.
STATE UNIV...  IF ANYONE HAS INFO ABOUT THE DEAD HOUR, MR. GANS SPACE MOVEMENT
ON THE RADIO WAVES, PLEASE E-MAIL OR POST WHEN AND WHAT STATION I CAN PICK IT
UP ON FROM CHARLOTTE...  

   GOING DOWN THE ROAD FEELIN' BAD... PLEASE HELP
                                JASON  ' FURTHUR ' SIGMON

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From: russellg@tramp.Colorado.EDU (Glenn Russell)
Subject: Re: From the vaults
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 17:17:05 GMT


George Lambert writes:

>Can't help you on any OFTV info, but my candidate would be the Denver
run
>from December 1990.

Hubba, hubba!  I'll have what he's having!   :-)

Here's hopin' for that Denver run in December 1992!  With a side order
of Tempe to go.  :-)

Regarding future vault release:
The Dead have released live material from the following years.  

 1966- Vintage, Historic
 1968- TFTV
 1969- Live Dead
 1970- Bears Choice
 1971- Skullfuck  
 1972- Europe  
 1974- Steal Yer
 1975- OFTV
 1980- Reckoning, Dead Set
 1988- Dylan
 1990- Without Annette

As much as I enjoy high quality rarities from the "old" days, it would be 
nice to have a live release that would fill the gaps between 1975-1980
and 1980-1988.

How about 6/9/77 or Englishtown?   Or something from the 1983 
Red Rocks-Sante Fe run, which, IMHO, was a pinnacle of performance.  

   glenn
 

-- 
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|  Glenn Russell                   "Some rise, some fall, some climb...     |
|  russellg@tramp.colorado.edu      To get to Weekapaug!"  :-)  :-)  :-)    | 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: "Robert K. Toutkoushian" <TOUTKOUS@vx.cis.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Six reasons it ain't '68 (sorry, forgot the subject :-))
Reply-To: TOUTKOUS@vx.cis.umn.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 18:36:35 GMT

Hey Now!

Christian J. Ullsperger <ullsperg@enz.berk.edu> writes:

|And let me add my vote to Mark's definition of "classic" dead, not
|because I think the convention is useful (it's complete bullsh#t, but
|because I think it brings up interesting ideas and represents a diversion
|from the relentless creaming over the band which some deadheads do
|unceasingly. To those few who argued saying that there were 1990 shows
|meriting this description: nothing less than five years old is classic.
|Classic implies having withstood a test of time. Hence, there are no
|"classic" versions of "Brother Esau". Some are great (Mark would argue me
|on this point) but none are "classic". 


	Better get thee to a Deadbase, Christian! The boyz have been 
playing "Brother Esau" since the early 1980's. Guess this makes it a 
classic after all :-) Brother Esau fans, unite!! We can't allow such 
slander to pollute our net waves...

Rob "Esau" Toutkoushian
University of Minnesota
INTERNET: toutkous@vx.cis.umn.edu
From: cpalmer@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: goofy lettering on GD I
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:30:46 EDT

If this is the album I am thinking of, look at it in a mirror-
it says "UGLY RUMORS"  I noticed it one night with the use of THC and 
luck...
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: S0SKAG01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu
Subject: Lithuanian Shirts
Reply-To: S0SKAG01@ulkyvm.louisville.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:23:51 GMT



OK, that wasn't so bad was it? Ask a simple question and sometimes you
get a gratifying answer. $10 to the Lithus sounds pretty good to me.
I ordered my shirt today.

Now, if we can just fathom why the 'official' stuff at concerts is so high...

S.S.

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: "Doug Budzak" <DBUDZAK@IVY>
Subject: don't trust anyone...
Reply-To: DBUDZAK@IVY
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:17:12 GMT

With all this talk of "don't trust anyone under 30" or "under 40",
isn't there anyone who remembers that the ORIGINAL phrase was "don't
trust anyone OVER 30"? I do believe that came from the movie "Wild In
The Streets", although it's a been a long strange trip since then.....
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay)
Subject: Re: "great" '92 shows
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:17:02 GMT

I hope four shows mean that I have a qualified opinion.  I thought Thursday,
June 25 at Chicago was a great show with the highlight being the encore, 
"Gloria" where Bob cracks up because of the humorous guitar effects
by Jerry and Steve Miller.  Best drumspace I've ever seen/heard as well.
Plus tasty stuff by James Cotton.  My favorite Dead show ever though I feel
as if they normally don't play well or frequently in the Mid-west.

dudasj@rs6407.ecs.rpi.edu (Joel Schostok Dudas) writes:

>I have seen 7 shows this year, and have yet to see a good
>one.  I hope that this is just bad luck for me catching
>up with the remarkable Dead show luck I had in '91 for
>good shows.

>Can anyone tell me what they think the best shows of the year
>have been?  I'd like to get boards of the hottest shows this
>year, to see if I am either really unlucky lately or if the Dead
>aren't as good.  I am especially interested in Vegas reviews,
>as I heard that these were decent shows.  Please respond only if you have
>seen a good number of shows this year, so you can compare.
>Thanks,
>Joe D.
>dudasj@rpi.edu

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From: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Subject: Re: 5/24/92 tapetree and a few words
Reply-To: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:23:32 GMT

Arthur writes some good, clear-visioned words of the state
of rec.music.gdead.  Yes, like the band said, it's become a
teenage wasteland.  Except for the few and far between brilliant
postings, there is a lot of garbage bandwidth.  Reminds me of
the state of mother earth - let's burn more rainforest or waste more
bandwidth - it's all the same...

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: wtr@mitre.org (Bill Ralston)
Subject: Re: all these flames
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 02:04:00 GMT

in article <3541@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:

>        What bothers me the most about all these flames is that they're
>such *pathetic* flames.  I mean, really, call someone a few dirty names
>and sign off with a cute signature...  A real flame is not only entertaining
>to the reader but says something more substantial about why you're flaming
>than "Your mother wears army boots, shithead".
>
>        Reckon it's a lost art, like 360 assembly or rollin' fat joints...

Well, OK, with such a blatent advertisement to be flamed, you've got it...

Have you ever considered why rolling 360 fat joints is a lost art... you 
roll all those joints, then you smoke 'em, and after that there ain't any brain cells left and there's lot's of lost arts. Or did I misread something there... :)

Bill
---------------
wtr@mitre.org
** Opinions are mine only, and not my employer's (no kidding :-/)**
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans)
Subject: Grateful Dead Hour #207
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:53:07 GMT


Grateful Dead Hour no. 207
Week of September 7, 1992


Part 1  27:35
                  In cue: <music>
     :00     :45  Opening
     :45   12:20  Grateful Dead 8/27/72 Veneta OR
                  BIRD SONG
   13:05    2:38  Robert Hunter, Tiger Rose
                  OVER THE HILLS
   15:43   11:29  Jerry Garcia Band (1991 live album)
                  THAT LUCKY OLD SUN
   27:12     :23  ID
                  Out cue: ...when the Grateful Dead Hour continues.

   27:35    1:00  Music bed for local announcements
   28:35     :05  Pause

Part 2  23:53
                  In cue: And now, here are some scenes from next week's...
   28:40     :44  Introduction
   29:24   22:50  Grateful Dead 6/20/92 RFK Stadium, Washington DC
                  JAM->
                  CASEY JONES->
                  THROWING STONES->
                  ONE MORE SATURDAY NIGHT
   52:14     :19  Outro
                  Out cue: and I'll meet you back here next week.

-- 

	David Gans	tnf@well.sf.ca.us
			{apple,pacbell,hplabs,ucbvax}!well!tnf

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From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Subject: Re: TDK is like Chevrolet <- sp
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:04:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.193005.29487@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>,
caherty@wizard.nrl.navy.mil (Frank Caherty) writes:
>(D. Eric Nay) :
>"I'd rather push my Chevy than drive a Ford"
>
>(Todd Brown) :
>
>Had to be the other way around, you know :
>"Found On Road Dead" or "Fix Or Repair Daily".
>
>Econoline Humptruck
>"KELVINATOR".
>Regards, >Frank.

good story!!  recently saw an imported hatchback that said:
DODGEMOUTH on the left and HORIZOMNI on the right!  not quite as
creative as KELVINATOR, but worth mentioning.

did i hear that bobby was getting the nodes removed from his vocal
chords?

lara
From: v087jsfu@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (DANNY)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Uncle John's Band/Jesus
Date: 31 Aug 92 18:14:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I was wondering if anyone else thought that Uncle John's
Band had symbolism to Christianity in it?  Please don't
rag on me if this is old..
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern)
Subject: Re: DEAD PHISH:')
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:35:22 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

> >|>PS Phish is better than the dead...
> >|Maybe, if they practice for 25yrs. They might get close.
> >
> >I sure am glad there's a band like Phish around now that's as good as the
> >Dead were in the mid '70's. 
> 
> When I read this I had to laugh!  It's amazing how opinions differ.  
> And in IMHO, Phish wouldn't be qualified to tune the guitars of the Dead
> in the mid '70's.

What the hell does "better" mean??  The Dead and Phish play such totally
different styles of music that a comparison is ridiculous.

Phish's music is way more musically complicated than the Dead's, so I
don't think the Dead could even cover many Phish tunes.  Phish could
cover many Dead tunes, but why?  And that still doesn't really prove
anything.  The Dead are what they are, and Phish is what they are.

FWIW, I much prefer Phish.  Much more interesting to my ears.  But I 
still like the Dead.

Richard Stern
rstern@col.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: Neil tonight!!! [private email PLEASE READ THIS POST]
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:17:30 GMT


Bill wrote me some email that I can't help share with the group.
It is my hope that when you hear of his transgressions, that you
will join me in giving him the support he needs to change his ways.

Bill writes:

|	steve:  While I won't be inside the arena where Neil is playing
|tonight, I will be ouside cooking up and hopefuly selling fruit crepes,
|pate', filet mignon burgers and other assorted upscale culinary delights.
|I will also have white zinfandel, shrimp cocktails, and small tins of
|cut-rate caviar.  I'll be bringing my portable satelite dish and renting
|out the use of my uplink for emergency stock and bond transactions.  My
|sister is coming up from White Plains to work the valet parking concession.
|I look forward to a fine evening of capitalism in action.  Later, fellow
|DiamondBack, I'm off to The Show!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 saddens me to hear that you are one of the ticketless hordes
hanging out in the parking lot just to make a buck off of Neil!

worse yet, you have succeeded in corrupting your sister into this
life of bad kharma and cut-rate caviar.

Steve,
a recovering Deadhead and grateful Diamondback
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: warto@src.dec.com (Joe Warto)
Subject: Re: Go Ahead
Organization: DEC Systems Research Center
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 21:33:44 GMT

>>Alex Ligertwood on guitar and vocals.
>Anything of his past endeavors?

Before he started singing with Carlos around 1978, he was the lead singer
for a group called Brian Auger's Oblivion Express (early to mid 70's).
For anyone interested, I would suggest checking out their live albums
"at the Whiskey A Go Go" vol. 1 & 2 (vol. 2 is a double LP, Vol. 1 is the
best). Their studio albums are good as well. Unfortuately, I have not yet 
seen any of their releases on CD :-(.


Peace,
Joe
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: ADAMS@uncg.bitnet
Subject: Barlow to speak in Greensboro
Reply-To: ADAMS@uncg.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 15:56:59 GMT

John Barlow will be speaking at the University of North Carolina at
Greensboro on the topic of virtual reality on the evening of October 22.
The address is free to the public.  I think it will be held in Bryan
Auditorium, which is on Spring Garden Street.  Please pass this information
on the computer types who happen to live in North Carolina or even
the southern part of Virginia.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Best Tapes
Organization: NY home for wayward dats
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:07:10 GMT

In article <1607@anagld.analytics.com> bsspeie@anagld.analytics.com
(Brad S. Speierman) writes:

>Solution:  Buy a DAT and scrap the analogs!  Almost all of the tapes
>on the market are hight quality (of course $6-8 they should be!)  You
>don't have to worry about Dolby because they don't use noise reduction.
>Of course some of the decks have something called emphasis but I don't
>have that on my deck and from what I hear it's pretty worthless.

Your decks do have emphasis; they probably don't record with it, but
they can definitely play back with de-emphasis.  Otherwise, any tapes
copied digitally from pcm (figure most of the ones you have that are
at 44.1 kHz) will sound really weird.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: Henry_Burdett_Messenger@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Deadicated II - suggestions
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 13:55:38 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
 2427@nic.umass.edu> <MAX.92Aug26135055@frabjous.washington.edu>

Now this is an interesting topic! 

I'm probably going to get flamed for these choices, but so what.

Kate Bush		- "Box of Rain"
Who else could give this one the treatment it deserves?

Brian Eno		- "Althea"
This would *work*. Trust me.

King Crimson		- "Space -> The Other One"
I gotta see Bob Fripp play Jerry Garcia...

Julee Cruise, Angelo
Badalamenti and David
Lynch			- "Victim or the Crime"
Too wierd for words...

Negativland		- "Truckin'"
hahahahahahahaha!

But then I think the Dead need to do "The Big Sky" (without the
vocal), "Empty Frame" and "Larks Tongues' in Aspic part II"...

Henry B. Messenger (KD6EFY)		"I just know that something
henry_burdett_messenger@cup.portal.com   good is gonna happen."
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Neither One
Subject: FTP Sites
Organization: AT&T BCSy S&PD FS/SI Dev MPS
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 17:13:18 GMT

Hello! Hello? Does this thing work? HELLO??

Could someone please send me (or post) the
ftp address(es) for terrapin-station and any other
sites with Gdead material.

I PROMISE I WILL NOT LOOK AT THE LYRICS AND CHORDS.

I don't own a musical instrument but will go purchase
4 or 5 songbooks anyway.

Ideologically Yours,
rbalko@attmail.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Althoff <jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Music, not Religion...
Reply-To: jeff@max.physics.sunysb.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:58:20 GMT

Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com> sez
| 
| Am I the only one who thinks they are a rock 'n' roll band and 
| NOT a religion of some kind? 
 
   No, you are not. I for one dislike being stereotyped just because I
   like the GD. 

   IMHO the whole thing is about music, and in particular the
   live performance of music, and the possibilities inherent in a
   not-completely-worked-out-beforehand performance. 

   Why do people automatically assume that because someone likes the GD
   they dress, act, think, live, etc. a certain way? This is as much 
   a stereotype as assuming that because someone is from a particular
   ethnic, religious, racial, etc. group that they are <fill in the
   blank>. If anything, I'd hoped that deadheads were at least generally
   speaking open-minded. This is apparently not a safe generalization.

   I'm resisting a diatribe on some of the completely unrighteous
   behavior I've seen perpetrated by some of the "kind" deadheads
   and tourheads. I'd hate to burst the bubble.

   It's only music. And I mean "only" in the sense of exclusiveness, not
   in a demeaning sense. I love it, but all this other baggage is not 
   part of the deal. I may or may not feel the same way about all these
   "what is a deadhead" requirements -- as far as I can tell, the ONLY
   thing we all have in common is a love of (at least some part) of the 
   music.

   Remember the message from the band when the camping/vending scene was 
   getting out of hand? One of the main thrusts was "this is about music,
   all this other stuff has got to go..."... 

   Grouchy,
   Jeff A.


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