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From: jackie8@dasher.cc.bellcore.com ()
Subject: HF: Letter to ABC (long)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 18:30:21 GMT

Kim asked in an earlier post for someone to post
the letter that they wrote to ABC.  So following
is the letter I wrote.  Feel free to copy, ignore,
or destroy :-) any information in this letter. Yeah,
it's a little corny but what the heck.  Can't hurt
anything.  Here's a stopper if you don't want to read
this letter and wanna bail out now:



(My apologies if this doesn't format right or something.
I tried to edit out spaces and stuff and still try and
keep it looking like a letter....)

  December 21, 1992


  Mr. Robert Iger       Lorimar Television
  ABC-TV                10202 W. Washington Blvd.
  77 West 66th Street	Culver City, CA 90232
  New York, NY	10023


  Mr. Iger:
  Executives at	Lorimar:

  Recently it was announced that Homefront was being put on hiatus.
  Which, as we viewers know, means that	it is very likely that the
  show will be canceled.

  Last year, TV	Guide included Homefront in the	Save Our Shows
  item that they ran.  All the Homefront viewers who wished to have
  their	show continue on were thrilled when it was announced that
  Homefront was	indeed renewed for the coming year.  Imagine our
  surprise when, instead of the	original timeslot where	it garnered
  the most ratings and following, it was put into the 9:00 PM
  (eastern/pacific) slot on Thursdays facing --- of all	things ---
  Cheers.  This	is only	another	example	of how ABC promises to
  renew	shows due to audience reaction,	when yet ABC wishes to only
  kill it in a slow death by shuffling it around to different
  timeslots and	showing	it off and on throughout the season.
  Homefront was	put into a pattern this	season of appearing once
  every	other week, with a new show on almost every two	weeks, the
  rest coming in reruns	or preemptions.

  When Homefront was renewed last season, it was due to	audience
  following. Homefront has a faithful audience.	 We follow it
  week-to-week,	and look forward to the	next show.   It	would be to
  ABC's	advantage to give Homefront one	more chance. A decent
  chance this time.   By that I	mean move Homefront back to its
  original timeslot (Tuesdays 10:00 PM eastern/pacific), show it on
  a regular schedule (no reruns	more than any of your other shows),
  cut down on the every	other week preemptions,	and leave it in
  that timeslot	so that	the audience has a chance to build.  Your
  advertisers would be more than happy to garner more and more
  viewers for their products should Homefront be renewed.

  Please reconsider the	canceling of Homefront.

  Keep the Homefires Burning,



  J. M.	Brady
  1130E	Easton Avenue
  Somerset, NJ	08873
From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Subject: AMC:  Tad Lotto - Wednesday's Mail
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 23 Dec 92 21:34:27 GMT

Thanks to Michelle Holley.  I received your card in the mail today.

Also, thanks to Sharada Mani for letting me know she was the sender
of the "mystery" envelope.

Hope you all are having a great week.

Linda Lou
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Save SSH Letter - part 1
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:00:30 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:

>In the years to follow the character of Julie was recast and Susan Seaforth
>Hayes played the part.  

Where did you get this information?  I saw the first episode of
DOOL at the Museum of Broadcasting in New York and Julie was played
by Susan Seaforth, who later married co-star Bill Hayes, becoming
Susan Seaforth Hayes.  (The met on the show)

-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
From: llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald)
Subject: Re: AMC: Update WED 12/16
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:47:55 GMT

In article <191630052@hpcvra.cv.hp.com> daveo@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (Dave Ochs) writes:
>>/ hpcvra:rec.arts.tv.soaps / llmacdon@orion.oac.uci.edu (Linda Macdonald) / 11:00 am  Dec 20, 1992 /
>>In article <1992Dec18.234203.28845@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> ajs@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (AJ Schricker) writes:
>
>>>I keep thinking that eventually Gloria is going to come forward and
>>>testify that Adam is just as bad as dixie and how he had propositioned
>>>her in the boat house.....
>>
>>I thought this very same thing.  In fact, I was hoping Gloria might come
>>forward and say that Adam was "forcing" his affections on her.  This is
>>a slight bending of the truth, but it should save Jr. from Adam and it
>>might get Adam to leave Gloria alone.  As for Gloria and Stewart, I think
>
>This is a great idea ... it could be made to sound really bad, since Gloria
>is ENGAGED to his brother!  But, as I've said before, IT DOESN'T MATTER. 
>There has been too much forshadowing ... Adam is going to get custody.

Dave, I agree that Adam will get custody, especially after today's
episode.  I am so glad TAD is back, but I am having a very hard time
with this custody hearing.  I had to change the channel while Dixie
was testifying.  It is bringing back too many memories of when my
parents fought for custody of my brother and me.  We even had to 
"testify" to a court appointed psychologist as part of the hearing.
Personally, I wish TAD would get his memory back and come beat the
<insert any and every bad word you know here> out of Adam.  I still
wish both Gloria and Haley would testify against Adam.  Of course,
there is still Palmer's idea of having Adam killed.  I still laugh
when I think of that scene and wish he would follow through with
hiring a hit man.  (Can you tell this whole storyline is upsetting
me?)

Linda Lou
>
>Dave Ochs            "Even if I did hit her it wouldn't have done any good
>daveo@cv.hp.com      ... [sigh] should'a used a pail of water, that was it!"
>Corvallis, OR                    - Edmund to Dr Tolan, about "Broom" Helga


Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: diane@greenland.island.COM ()
Subject: DOOL
Originator: diane@greenland
Organization: Island Graphics, Marin County, California
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:20:40 GMT

 I usually only read, and not post, but the recent campaign to save SSH
 has prompted me to respond.  

 Let me tell you how guys (not a sexist term - just means humans) in 
 management look at these things.

 "Look at all this mail we are getting about cutting Susan.  Boy these FANS
 of OUR series, surely have strong opinions."

 This is followed by a warm pat on the back, as they believe the ole publicity
 is cool, as long as they spell your name correctly......

 If you REALLY want to make a difference STOP WATCHING THE SHOW.  Keep anyone
 who is a Neilson family from watching the show.  Keep up with any storyline
 that might have "hooked" you in the Saturday/Sunday/Soap Opera Digest updates.

 But if you continue watching the show, THEY learn nothing.

 By the way Rose, I thought your letter was great - just as is.  I thought 
 that your description of the impact that a soap has on a teenage life is
 VERY accurate.  I am MUCH older than you - and was as highly influenced by
 Another World's storyline with Steve/Alice/Rachel, when Alice repeatedly 
 refused to marry the love of her life.  It had actually never occured to 
 me that a girl could turn down a rich, incredibly good-looking, man who was
 crazy about her, just because she wasn't ready.  Wow!!!  What a concept.  I
 thought you were supposed to say YES and live out of gratitude the rest of
 your DAYS.....

 But as long as it is controversial, they will do nothing.  

 Just stop watching.  

 CBS has a HOT thing going in Guiding light

 If you want a soap.  Or you could dedicate the hour to sleeping, which I
 was doing through most of DAYS lately anyway.......

 Oh And Happy Happy Happy New Year to all of us dedicated, intelligent,
 goodlooking (you don't have a terminal that shows you the poster do you?) RATS.

 Here's to better Days at CBS.......


-- 
Diane Ascher						sun!island!diane
SoapBox Radio Program - KSRO - 1350 AM - Santa Rosa, CA - Sat 1:00pm PST
"More time is spent watching soaps than sports" -- me
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: ALI00ERW@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU
Subject: Re: AMC: Another Soap Trial. Yay.
Organization: UNC Charlotte
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:35:08 GMT

In article <105265@bu.edu>
mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes) writes:
 
>
>OK folks, here's a question people all over the world
>have wanted me to ask:  What's wrong with me??
>
>The reason I ask is that I have been watching AMC for
>nearly my entire life.  I *know* that the trial scene
>is a long and revered tradition in soaps.  BUT...
>
>I hate them.  They bore me to tears.
>
>I mean, they keep putting trial scenes in storylines
>for a reason, right?  Like most watchers must really
>get into them, right?  So why does it have the opposite
>effect on me??
>
>Am I the only one???
>
>
>--
>========================================================================
>Mike Holmes       mjmh@crsa.bu.edu           "Happiness Will Prevail!"
>Boston University Department of Geography (a truly GREAT place to work!)
>========================================================================
 
As long as they DON'T have another kidnapping!!! Especially of Natalie!
Or Erica (she's been kidnapped how many times now?)! I agreed with Mona
when she said something like, "oh, Erica can handle this, she's been
through worse things," upon being told that Edmund had kidnapped her.
 
Erin
 
(semi-lurker extraordinaire)
From: susanm@an.hp.com (Susan Margulies)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Favorite lines
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:31:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpscit.1hq5h4INNjlu
Reply-To: susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com
Organization: Hewlett Packard Santa Clara Site
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpanvi.an.hp.com
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

Trish Jamieson (trish@wisdom.bubble.org) wrote:
: I just had to share this (for those of you that missed it)....
: 
: Nola: What have you been doing?
: 
: "Ted": Nothing much.  I did get a TAD restless on Christmas eve <pause,
:        funny look>
: 

YUP!!!!  I cracked up!!!  That was a great look MEK gave
the camera!

Now do we have a TAD LOTTO set up for how many minutes/hours/days/weeks
Ted will be in PV Hospital before he is recognized???  ARGH!  While many
of the spoilers people have been posting have mentioned Nola's will and
some attorney questioning if Ted is really her son, we have not been
given an exact date when Ted will come face to face with someone who
knows him as Tad!

Maybe this will be the one week of the year where we get to see that PV
Hospital has doctors besides Dr. Joe and Nurses besides Ruth?
Of course, it just wouldn't be a crisis if you didn't have Dr. Joe
breaking the news to the victim's family!

At any rate, I think it will happen on Thursday, or at least I hope it
will since that is my update day!

Susan

--
Susan E. Margulies       |  "Isn't revenge enough?"
HP Imaging Systems       |     -- Erica Kane  
susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com  |  
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Subject: Re: DOOL: Save SSH Letter - part 1
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:54:59 GMT
Organization: Boo!  

In <1992Dec21.235859.10762@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak) writes:

>In article <Dec.21.17.00.30.1992.10053@gandalf.rutgers.edu> shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan) writes:
>>IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:
>>
>>>In the years to follow the character of Julie was recast and Susan Seaforth
>>>Hayes played the part.  
>>
>>Where did you get this information?  I saw the first episode of
>>DOOL at the Museum of Broadcasting in New York and Julie was played
>>by Susan Seaforth, who later married co-star Bill Hayes, becoming
>>Susan Seaforth Hayes.  (The met on the show)


>Either what you saw wasn't really the first episode, or Susan Seaforth
>was Julie, replaced and then brought back again [like Christie Clark.]
>There was definitely another Julie in the early years, though I couldn't
>tell you her name.

There were 3 before SSH.  Carla Doherty was the first, and she was followed
by Catherine Dunn and Catherine Ferrar.  Of course, SSH has played the
role for far longer than anyone else.

Quickie Quiz: What MASH star was one of the actors who played the role
of Julie's first husband?

Greg
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Update 12/24
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:44:05 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET writes:

Someone refresh my memory...

>the missing loved ones?'  Alice asks Tom if they're all there.  He says
>"there's Tommy, Addie, Marie, Sandy, and Jessica."  Bill says "there's

Who are Sandy and Jessica?

>Mike, Jeremy, and Laura."  Micky says "there's Stephen."  Maggie says

Who is Stephen?

-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
From: sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: Carly got run over by a reindeer
Date: 29 Dec 92 06:01:43 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu

DAMNIT Bill that was unfair...you had me rolling...after not
getting the Xmas ep. I figured we would have a continuation ep.
with at least a scene of J&J celebrating the day with Abby, Jack
trying to put the toys together, Jack with Jo, Julie starting on
the hous. NADA...just more of that no talent &%$@#^&@...well other
than a scene with John and Marlena I did not watch the damn show.
I think I am with BosieB, I will give the show the rest of this
month, then January, and the return of Hope but if it continues
to be Crystal's show, and Hope's return is not a return for 
Kristian but yet another GD vehicle to give Cameldung another
ad infinitum airtime then I am through, addios amigos/as...
to much has been promised and then not followed through, too
many decent acters/tresses have lost their jobs for this
piece of crap known as DOCL......


BUT on a happier note, hey Bill!!! What about those 'Niners...
and tonight Joe RETURNED, and for not playing for almost 2 yrs.
did one damn good job, 2 TD, +100 yards in 2 quarters...he
looked DAMN good tooo..

So watch out...and thanks Nelson for the ornament...the
'Niners all the way...kick butt time...


Spudnix---
-- 
Sally A. Wilson
Spudnix Peel
sally@mica.berkley.edu
From: rose@cecily.UUCP (Rose M. Delckum)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Night-time episode this year?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:58:26 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The New Alaska Riviera
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <1992Dec22.010717.16449@panix.com>, Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira writes:

> 
> Some news:
> 
> Despite what I said earlier, it appears that tptb decided not to
> age Kim's kids after all.  They show up tomorrow unaged in what may
> be Patsy's last show.

     Yay!  No more 5 year olds in college ala Sara (who was annoying
enough to be Carly's kid!)
> 
> Soap Opera Now! reports (all those who are faint of heart leave now)
> that the writers plan on giving Marlena a 2nd personality, one that
> will go after John (while the other one stays with Roman).  I myself
> will not comment.

     There's that famous Spira sense of humor folks!  Just gets me
every time!  I'm rolling on the ground laughing.  What an incredibly
horrendous awful nauseating idea...it's so bad TPTB couldn't come up
with it.  Way to go Gregster!  What a funny guy!  (Um.  Greg?  This *is*
your famous sense of humor isn't it?  *weak grin*  Isn't it?)
> 
> And some spollers
> 
> 
> Marlena and John continue to connect.  Feeling guilty, Marlena goes to bed
> with Roman.

     What an idea!  Someone actually going to bed with their own
husband!  Stop the presses and inform the rags!
> 
> Carly and Larry spend a week discussing what/how to tell Nikki the truth.

     Barforooni!  *More* of these two?  I know I'd certainly spend
a lot of time with the man who raped my best friend.  What a tacky selfish
bitch.  I hope Jenn decks her as Jack looks on and applauds.
> 
> Vivian begs for Voctor's help.
 
     Sigh.  These two are getting so sappy.
> 
> Carrie executes her plan to keep Austin from fighting.
     Darn!  And I was hoping he'd get killed in the ring and
Billie'd be so upset she's get stoned and die of an OD.
> 
> Jack pursues the Spectator.

     But does he catch it? :-)
> 
> Sorry I still can't bring a full report; I'm still mostly bedridden.

     Hope you're feeling better!  Happy holidays!
> 
> Greg 

     Roserooni
> 
> 
> >Crystal Chappell and Michael Sabatino will not get a primetime television
> >show next season--taking over "Cheers" old spot.
> 
> No, of course not.  NBC will need a full 2 hour movie for Carly all all
> by herself each week.  (Actually, Seinfeld will get Cheers' spot next year)

     I thought Dorkday was gonna buy her her own network :-)
> 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: brandtch@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Chris Brandt)
Subject: AMC: a REALLY stupid question
Keywords: Duh
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:24:44 GMT

OK.  Here's a stupid question:

With the actress that played Natalie now
gone, does that mean there will be a new
actress playing JaNut too?  Will JaNut
also be blind?  The mind boggles doesn't
it! :-)

Maybe now JaNut will take on a new illness
besides her obvious mental incapacities:
Horribly Bad Acting Syndrome!!

Join the DUMP NEWNAT SOCIETY before we're
stuck with her!

Chris Brandt         brandtch@sage.cc.purdue.edu
From: spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Next On
Date: 29 Dec 92 19:23:42 GMT
Organization: Boo!

Next week appears to be a very light Carly & Larry week, believe it or not.
A lot of Jack, and a lot of Carrie/Austin.



Carrie changes her mind and decides to let Austin fight.  Austin changes
his mind and decides not to throw the fight.  Austin and Carrie plan to
make love, but Billie reminds Austin that he said they'd leave town. And
goons interrupt a serious talk between Carrie and Austin.

Jack is really mad at Jennifer for interfering, and says he can't take
any more from his family.  Jack gets a lucrative job offer from Saudi
Arabia.  He goes to the barn to think things over, and it's the same
barn where Billie has stashed lots of cash.

Vic and Viv have an explosive reunion.

Marlena tries to get Kim's hearing delayed.  Kim hears voices.  The judge
wants Kim to go to the sanitarium.  Marlena tries to change his mind.

Greg
From: holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (LAURA HOLST)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: OLTL:  SOD Awards
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:36:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Change in pace here, reading Soap Opera *Digest* ;)
Came across an article listing nominees for the
"Soap Opera Digest Awards", to air 26FEB on NBC (no
time is listed).  OLTL didn't fare to well, but got
ONE nomination, anyway:

Outstanding Social Issue Storyline:  Homophobia in Llanview

Other nominations in this category:
B.J.'s Sexual Abuse (SB)
Margo's Rape (ATWT)

Never heard of these awards, but might be fun :)

--Laura Holst
Internet:  holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov  Decnet:  XEN::HOLST
Snail Mail:  NASA/Ames Research Center  MS 219-1
             Moffett Field, CA  94035-1000
Live:        (415) 604-6588
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Update 12/24
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:45:10 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Were Mike and Margo's ornament's on the tree?


-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Subject: SB: Trivia Pursuit
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 15:27:40 GMT
Keywords: mini-conference


The SB Trivia Pursuit game is coming along. I couldn't find different
colored index cards so I used only white index cards. I wrote the questions
and answers with different colored pencils in order to obtain the desired
color code. I didn't use yellow because it was not visible enough,
therefore, I used black for yellow. I hope you can read my writing! Maybe,
I should do all the reading since I know all the answers. But, believe
me, it really doesn't matter. A lot of the questions are so hard (before
my familiarity with SB) and real trivia. I had to include some ridiculously
easy ones so we can get some correct answers. I'm having a problem with
the blue topic, favorite quotes. I don't have too many questions. I know
there were a lot of quotes written on the net, some by me, but I don't 
remember them nor have a copy of the quotes. If anybody remembers them, please
email me the quotes and who said them.

I want to thank the following for sending me questions: Pat, Jim, Nancy, Jean,
Leila, Curt, Suzanne, and Linda. Jim Armstrong sent me 53 outstanding
questions, he rally knows SB.

It's not too late to send me more questions. We really don't have enough
and the more questions, the better the game. If you want, bring them with
you to Pittsburgh.

I'm really getting excited about this conference,
John


-- 


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From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Godzilla Speaks Quasi-Update 930103
Date: 4 Jan 93 03:46:14 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <C0AJ99.6Cn@ddsw1.mcs.com>, starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders) writes:
> 
>>Subject: RE: AMC: VARIOUS MUSINGS
>>Date: 31 Dec 92 22:34:27 EST
>>From: ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu
>>Message-ID: <1992Dec31.223427.14269@umiami.ir.miami.edu>
>>
>>
>>And while I'm here...[Ricky Ricardo voice ON] Can somebody 'splain me 
>>something:  how in the WORLD can a house seller accept *TWO* offers on the 
>>same house????!!!  We have bought and sold houses and I have never heard of 
>>this. (Re. the undercover real estate sting w/Brooke, Edmund, Livia, Lucas, 
>>etc. etc.) 
> 
>    Ann, you forgot to turn your Voice OFF.
>    Bet your husband is climbing the walls by now... :)


Ay, mi vida!  Remember, I live in Miami...home of Spanglish.  Y'know "pass me
el remote control" and "vaya left at Poinciana Drive y luego follow it to the
next light".  Besides, at this point (7 year anniversary is Monday) I think
mostly to him I sound like an adult in those old Charlie Brown specials.  
Remember the grownups never have real dialogue, they just kind of go 
"bwap bwap bwap".  I suspect that's about what he hears by now :).

Yo "babalu" Helmers


         **********'Canes Are STILL #1 in My Heart**********