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From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Comments on "Fortune Cookie Prize"
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:45:58 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <92274.154315MDJ102@psuvm.psu.edu> MDJ102@psuvm.psu.edu (Mike Jung) writes:
>I just bought "Fortune Cookie Prize," the tribute album to Beat Happening on
>the Simple Machines label.  A few comments and questions follow:
>
>- Which song sounds closest to Beat Happening?  (No, I've never heard BH
>  before, I bought the disc for Velocity Girl.)

Well, the song truest to the original (IMO) is Whorl's take on "The This
Many Boyfriends Club" - but that's not typical BH.... I'm sorry I can't
give you a good answer, 'cause my turntable's been broken for over
a month... :(

>- The Velocity Girl track is excellent.

Yup. :)

>- I've never heard a lot of Sonic Youth before either, except for one song
>  on MTV.  Is "Kim, Thurston & Epic" usually that brutal?

Actually - the song is "Black Candy". Kim and Thurston are from Sonic
Youth. Epic Soundtracks (whose name Epic/Sony stole for their movie
recording label :) ) was in the sweller than swell Swell Maps. No.

>- The Superchunk track is good, too.

Actually, consensus says that that track is godawful. However, I would
not pay any attention to the consenus - 'cause I agree - it's really
good!

>- Should I feel guilty for paying $12 for this disc?

No - 80% of the proceeds go to a local DC charity (whose name, I'm
afraid escapes me at the moment...). If you feel guilty about that... :)

>Cool liner notes on how to get CDs made...

Yeah - the LP comes with info on how to get vinyl pressed. Very well
thought out and done. All praise Jenny Toomey and Kristin Thompson!

>Question not related:  Which band is on the flexi-disc of the either September
>or October issue of Alternative Press (the one with LoveChild/Tsunami/Velocity
>Girl on it)?

Unfortunately - neither. It's the Screaming Trees. Blah. Bummer.

-- 
Joshua Houk | houk@athena.cs.uga.edu | email for Indie-List info!
"Women deprived of the company of men pine;
 men deprived of the company of women become stupid."
     - Anton Chekov
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From: gewong@mtholyoke.edu (G.e.R.m.a.I.N)
Subject: Re: ERASURE: Are they coming to Cleveland?
Organization: Mount Holyoke College
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:39:51 GMT

In article <1a5b61INN3bc@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> rjr6@po.CWRU.Edu (Robert J. Reinhardt) writes:
>
>Does anyone know if Erasure's current tour (or the one that's about to
>start up) is coming to Cleveland?
>-- 

I've noticed many postings asking about their tour (I posted one 
too asking about Massachusetts dates) but it seems that no one 
has any info.  (Or did people get tired of answering?)

A friend of mine in CA just told me that he spent hours in line
at the ticket-counter and still only managed to get bad seats.
(They started selling tickets at 10am today for the Bay-area
show and he started lining up at 7:30)...   Looks like it's 
going to be a sell-out..


-g
From: genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: ok
Date: 30 Sep 92 19:45:52 GMT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

i will.

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From: joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM (no jocks need apply)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: About moshing......
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:53:24 GMT
Reply-To: joneil@heretix.East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: heretix.east.sun.com

THIS GUY IS 100% RIGHT.... i remember the old days when if some slammed me to hard,
the next time i came upon him, he would  smile sorry. and i would do the same.

now you got drunk jocks with their champoin sweatshirts overthere trying to prove to 
their girlfriends how tough they are.  I heard this the other night,  "derr, did ya see me,
slam that little dink, i crushed him, ha ha"  WHAT A ASSHOLE

if you know someone in the pit that doesn't belong there, tell him to get out!!

john
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From v079ql9q@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I got a Catholic Block.....)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: About moshing......
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:58:00 GMT

I don't know about you guys- but now that 'alternative' is cool,
slamming/moshing is now cool.

At Buffalo, we have a Spring and Fallfest, and they involve alot of bands that
one would consider 'alternative'.  Since they come and play, people come and
slam.  Which brings me to my point:

There just seem to be alot of jock assholes out there saying 'Cool!  We can go
beat up people and not get into trouble.  Lets go!'  It really pisses me off. 
When I go see a band in a club, if there is a pit and someone gets knocked
down, they get picked right up.  At the Fests and LollaII, you would get
trampled.

I just hate it when people get in a pit and start throwing fists, elbows, etc. 
It's a pit, your gonna get knocked into, so just go with it, don't hit back.

I dunno, it just really pisses me off when people say 'yeah, when you beat up
10000 other people and get away with it'.  Clubs near my house outlawed
slamming, and I don't want to see it outlawed everywhere.  So to that certain
person who posted earlier about Lollapalooza II:  COOL OFF.

Thanx for putting up with me, just had to get it off of my chest.  8^)

Later-

Shane
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:33:53 EDT
From: Christopher H. Prokop <CP8219A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Joy Div trivia

Ok, everyone knows NO was originally JD
Some know that JD was previously called Warsaw.
Who knows what they were called before that (and more interestingly-
    WHY??)
          answer coming soon...........


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: jdrage@napier.uwaterloo.ca (don't call me "Jim")
Subject: Re: New BEL CANTO disc is out for those who like 4AD Style
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:23:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.185156.1899@news.uit.no> torem@stud.cs.uit.no (Tore Mallaug) writes:
>Their new (last) CD is more "easier" and popish than the two first, so it
>don't sound so much 4AD. Even some discotheques plays Bel Canto here in Norway.

I've been looking for it everywhere, but I haven't had any luck.  Does anyone
know the release date for _Shimmering..._ in Canada?

>And, I have heard that Geir Jenssen (ex. Bel Kanto member) is going the realize a CD in England.
>Maybe he becomes the first real "house" artist hiting the british indie lists ?

When did Geir Jenssen leave the band?  The only Bel Canto disc I have is
_White_Out_Conditions_, and I can't remember if it was released before _Birds_
Of_Passage_ or after.

      _/                  I reduced my signature just for Mark Tompsett.
     _/                   But I'm still in the pocket, just like Randy T.
_/_/_/  A  M  E  S
From: u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Cure: I Wish...
Date: 1 Oct 92 01:17:43 GMT
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.

kzimmerman@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>>> 
>BAD POINT. That makes no sense. So they can start churning out Tiffany-style
>music and I should still adore them?

>"Rape me like a child... christened in blood... painted like an unknown saint... 
>the only choice is left... your voice is dead and old and always empty..."
>vs.
>"Monday Tuesday Wednesday blahblahblah..."

>Even Lovesong was great IMOFOSPO because it took convention and turned it on
>its head... "Whenever I'm alone with you/You make me feel like I am free again"
>                                                                        
>So let's just lay it on the line... once the Cure made some good music... as
>recently as 1989 by my count, but the best was 1980-1982. So I'm not a "real
>fan" for no longer adoring them? Oh no! Certainly not like those high school
>kids with their _Wish_ t-shirts!! 

>Yeah I must say I can't hate the Cure for making a trashy album. But I'll be
>damned if I'll listen to anyone try and say that they're "alternative" these
>days or that the new stuff is good and I should adore them. Respect for an
>individual should be separate from respect for their art. And people shouldn't
>be so blind as to love anything a favorite group makes.

Hear, hear!  This is the most accurate description of the way things stand
with the Cure I hace read.  The best track record in the world does not even
slightly excuse the lame shite on _Wish_...I just don't really care what
they do any more.  I wish they'd split up after _Disintegration_, because
that would have been the ultimate epitaph.

			Matt.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music,misc
From: emp1@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Ernest M. Paik)
Subject: Re: Question on Pixies
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:22:39 GMT

Personally, I think "Surfer Rosa" (their 1st full-length album) is their best.
Everything hits hard on this album, with grating guitars, and throbbing bass lines and drums...

Here's how I rank them:
	1>  Surfer Rosa
	2>  Doolittle
	3>  Trompe Le Monde
	4>  Bossanova

their first EP, "Come On Pilgrim", is much on the lines of "Surfer Rosa" and is highly recommended...

I can't understand why they put out "Bossanova"...too many throwaways...some songs that just aren't interesting ("Dig For Fire", "All Over the World")...

"This ain't no holiday!  But it always turns out this way!"

Elektra, like other major record companies, decided to be stingy and re-released "Surfer Rosa" and "Come On Pilgrim" seperately...previously, they were released on one CD by Rough Trade (a great bargain!)...
I was lucky to find a spanking new copy of the Rough Trade release for a mere $5...this was becos RT went under and wanted to get rid of their stuff.
From: griestk@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Sarcastic Man)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Mighty Mighty Bosstones
Keywords: JOKE BAD XINE ENOUGH SAID
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:47:03 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

In article <1aq2b9INN4e6@bigboote.WPI.EDU> griestk@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Sarcastic Man) writes:
>In article <1apt7dINNsv6@bigboote.WPI.EDU> xine@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (a poor excuse for a red m+m) writes:
>>	Hey everybody, what's the difference between the bosstones and
>>	a moose?
>
>	Okay, okay. A moose has horns in the front and an asshole in the
>back, and the BossTones have the horns in the back and an asshole in the
>front. :)
>
>	[sorry xine... i had to.]

	Well, tomster came in and said "A moose has horns in the fron and a
dickie in the back, and the BossTones have horns in the back and Dickie in
the front." Ha ha. I think we get the point there, Tom.

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From: kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Kevin Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Automatic for the People
Date: 7 Oct 92 03:54:08 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Oct6.233734.21114@tc.cornell.edu> rob@vger.cheme.cornell.edu writes:
>In article <BvoLEA.FDI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf) writes:
>>Ok, what's the verdict on Automatic For the People (REM)?  I heard it was
>>a lot morte acoustic and more like the old REM.

>>Ed.


>As most have said, AFTP is definately more accoustic than OOT.  I have only
>listened to it a few times, but it seems to bring them back to pre-Document
>music.  I think that John Paul Jones did an excellent job arranging the
>stings, giving REM's music an added dimension.

I think you are right here.  Although I think that rem's musical talent has
diminished with Scott Litt, the album is a welcomed change.  I wouldn't
go so far as to say it goes way past Document, but it definetly reminds
me of that very album.

kcw
From: akd91@ecs.soton.ac.uk (AK Doney)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Joy Division, New Order, Electronic, Revenge, The Other Two.
Keywords: Joy Division, New Order, Electronic, Revenge, The Other Two
Date: 5 Oct 92 11:25:45 GMT

In reference to NO rarities I have a copy of Lets Go with vocals on
it. It appears on the Salvation soundtrack as an instrumental .

I do not know how rare this is. Others probably know more about it




Durns.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc,rec.audio,alt.rock-n-roll
From: moskowit@panix.com (Len Moskowitz)
Subject: Re: The Art of Making a Live Tape - please help me!
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:26:41 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

Shiv Naimpally writes:

>A company in Portland OR makes some interesting 'stealth' microphones.
>They are small buds that are slipped onto the frame of your glasses.
>The wires go behind your ears and with long enough hair (that rules me
>out !) they would be virtually unnoticeable. They are around $250-$300
>I think and have incredible specs. The testmonials from various engineers
>indicate they are suppossed to be superb sound quality and have an
>excellent reputation among the Grateful Dead 'taper' section.

I second the recommendation of the WM-D6C, or the D-3 if you have a
tighter budget.  The D6 goes for $325 or so here near NYC.

If you can afford a DAT machine, the Denon DTR-80 and the Casio
look-alike are the machines of choice these days.  The Sony TCD-D3
seems to be widely unavailable at the moment.

I make a set of microphones which are similar to but superior to the
set that you cite; they also cost less.  I'll be happy to send
information about them, some user comments, and a comparison with the
set you mention to anyone who sends me a request.

-- 
Len Moskowitz
moskowit@panix.com
From: genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: important MORRISSEY question
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:47:21 GMT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

john@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (John) writes:

> In article <92270.105958N88BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <N88BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
> >Can there truely be an important question about Morrissey? The Smiths were g
> > in their time, but hell, you have to grow up some day.
> 
> From simple curiousity (I've no axe to grind), is Morrissey calling
> himself celibate, heterosexual, or homosexual these days?  I heard he
> had a song on a promo CD from The Advocate, along with a song from
> K.D. Lang and other open homosexuals. 
> 
> --
> +----------------------------+   ||| | || |   
> | -John  (The Generic John)  |   ||| | || |   
> | john@csufres.csufresno.edu |   ||| | || |   
> +-----------"Moo"------------+   666 1 13 0   

morrissey, as said in a radio interview, is celibate. listen to songs 
like "end of the family line" and "i will never marry" this would lean 
over to the homosexual side. he has no brothers so i would assume he is 
telling us, in these two albums, that he is gay. anyhow, he has never 
actually stated or, i have never known him to have actually stated where 
he stands. i would leave it all up to speculation.

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From: genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Those d*mn commercials (name that tune!)
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:03:52 GMT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

> Here's one:
> 
> Anybody see the Jenny Craig weight-loss centers' commercial with the
> black-and-white
> footage in it? The backing track was Devo's "Post Post-Modern Man"...how
> about that!
> 
> :D
> 
> --Vernon.

but why did jenny pick devo? :)

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genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)   27-Sep-92 at 3:04p
From: rfritz@eis.calstate.edu (Ryan Fritz)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth: The Next Madonna
Date: 30 Sep 92 08:28:20 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

I just got Sonic Youth's "Dirty" CD the other day.  I've been listening to
it over and over.  I like it alot.  I had heard many of the songs on it
already, though, from the local college radio (they play mainly
alternative music).

I also picked up Peter Murphey's "Deep" which I think is pretty cool, but
it's a little hard to listen to after Sonic Youth because it's pretty
mellow.

---
Ryan Fritz
rfritz@eis.calstate.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: hamrick@milton.u.washington.edu (Mike Hamrick)
Subject: Re: NEGATIVELAND & NIRVANA?
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:59:26 GMT

Joshua John Buergel <jbbb+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>Oh please.  If you're going to dismiss the entire newsgroup based on an
>argument between about five people, AND be an elitist pig, at least
>spell the name of 'one of your favorite groups' right (Negativland lacks
>an 'e' after the 'v').

Thank you, saved me the effort.  David, where's my cigarettes?

>... Their first LP, _Myth Of Rock_, was considerably noisier than much
>of their later work (and closer to deserving the 'industrial' moniker),
>while their last album, _Friendly Fascism_ was alot closer to just
>straight up rap.

I'm not all that fond of Consolidated.  I do think _Josephene_The_Singer_
and _College_Radio_ off _Myth_Of_Rock_ and _Friendly_Fascism_ respectively
are great songs.  Have you heard _Youth_Against_Fascism_ off Sonic Youth's
new LP _Dirty_?  I think this song extremely funny if you take it as a
Consolidated parody.

> Anybody who hasn't given Public Enemy a good listen needs to get
> _It Takes A Nation Of Millions To Hold Us Back_, pronto.

I agree.  I like _Yo_Bum_Rush_The_Show_ better however.  Probably because
this was the record that first turned me on to rap music, back in 1987.

mikeh -- "He fills his head with culture, he gives himself an ulcer."
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: tempted@milton.u.washington.edu (Robert Dawson)
Subject: Re: New Order releases
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:57:37 GMT




Everyone seems to be forgetting the recent release, by the BBC, of NOs live
performance at some place in England (i don't remember where).  And their
first album, Movement, I found on disk here in Seattle.  I only had to
look for about one day and i found it.  The latest i have heard regarding
their forthcoming album is that it still needs to be mixed or something.
From: crunch@camelot.bradley.edu (Randy Bloom)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Singles.... A must see
Date: 27 Sep 92 19:02:48 GMT
Organization: Rare.

randy@rdr.com (Randy Tidd) writes:

[>woodwick9526@iscsvax.uni.edu writes

[>I know this isn't the place to talk about movies, but I'll keep this  
[>directed towards music.

As will I.

[>       But it seemed like they threw in bits of the Seattle music  
[>"scene" just because they were supposed to.

Au contraire.  If you've heard anything on the making of the movie, you'll
know that the idea for it came about, as it was finished, when Andy Wood 
died.  They didn't "just throw in" the Seattle sound, it was created around 
Seattle itself, and the single lifestyle there and everywhere.  Crowe 
(writer/director) knew a lot of the Seattle musicians well before they had
been noticed by the rest of the world, and wanted their music in the movie.

[rest deleted, 'cause it had no bearing on music; the movie wasn't 
 really _about_ music, it was about single people--hence the title]

[>Randy

Oh, great.  How am I supposed to sign this?
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From: fhw2n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Ted Watkins)
Subject: Re: TMC/16 days
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:58:35 GMT

It's not on the 87' anthology previously mentioned. 
The original modern english version may be available on CD.
The Drugs/Come Here My Love 10" is excellent, but very
difficult to find. I own the only copy that I (personally) have
ever seen. Come Here My Love is on one of their full length CDs.
--
"The most merciful thing in the world, I think,
is the inability of the human mind to 
correlate all its contents" HPL
From: genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Cure: Wish
Date: 26 Sep 92 17:32:03 GMT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

carl@bain3.bain.oz.au (Carl Sandland) writes:

> 	SHUT UP, 'Wish' is a fantastic album that 'grows' on you, sure it may
> not be immediately grabbing, and some songs may SUCK, but songs like 'Trust'
> and 'Green sea" are so fabulous. The cure have always changed, if you don't
> like a band changing their output, why?????
> 
> 	How many "Faith"'s is in one band......

amen! :) i love "green sea" the album does take time, but so did all of 
them. i think its a great disc.


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genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)   26-Sep-92 at 10:32a
From: ajb@praxis.co.uk (Andrew Bond)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: House of Love
Date: 28 Sep 92 08:16:04 GMT
Organization: Praxis Systems, Bath, England


In article <1992Sep25.031208.2960@wam.umd.edu> barmiyan@wam.umd.edu (Amy Rebecca Ewing) writes:

   Has anyone heard their newest album? I would be interested in hearing
   any news about it since I have (and like) all their other albums.

The new album is called Babe Rainbow. It's much better than their last
(which suffered from the worst production ever) and is as good as the
first. 

There have been 3 singles so far - The Girl with the Loniest Eyes,
Feel, and You Don't Understand. The most outstanding track (IMHO) on
the album is Cruel which you'll recognise if you've seen them live
over the past 12-18 months. A new single, Crush Me, is about to be
released. 

I saw them recently and they were better than I've ever seen them.

Andrew
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From: rcj@engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson)
Subject: Re: The evils of Pearl Jam Yeah right
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 15:55:56 EDT
Organization: Lost Tribes of Gazebo

In article <1992Sep21.151100.17033@Csli.Stanford.EDU> glad@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Clayton Glad) writes:
>rcj@engin.umich.edu (R o d Johnson) writes:

>>The late, great musicologist Cliff Burton (he had a Ph.D.)  [...]

>Yeah, yeah, sure, sure.  Next you'll be telling us that *you* have one.

Geez, Clay, give me *some* credit for knowing how far to take a joke.
If I had a Ph.D., would I be wasting my time posting to Usenet?

Sheesh.

-- 
       Rod Johnson  *  rcj@caen.engin.umich.edu  *  (313) 764-3103
    
                "What I do doesn't happen in a warehouse"
                                          --Jim Dickinson