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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 10:38:18 CDT
From: Jeff Calusinski <U54346@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: MCA Upgrade


Hello all OS/2 lovers:

	 I have an AOX Micro Master processor upgrade card for any 50
or 60 series of PS/2 computers. For those of you who are
unfamiliar with Aox , they make a line of processor upgrade
cards for micro channel machines to allow them to increase their
performance. This particular card is a 386DX 25Mhz with no
memory. It is the 16 bit version, that is why it only works in
the 50's or 60's series of PS/2 or compatibles. It will allow
you to put to 8Megs of 32 bit memory while still accessing the
motherboard memory. The only reason I am posting this is because
it is ideal for anyone who is interested in running OS/2 2.0 on
a 286 Machine with out having to buy a new one.

	I just got the card yesterday, but have to sell it because it
will not work in my model 80 I am willing to sell it for $700.00
or best offer. Email me if you are interested.

I hope I have not affended anyone by posting this note but I
figured for those people who love OS/2 and would like to be able
to run 2.0 on a 286 machine inexpensively this is ideal. Why not
let others get in on all of the fun. Everyone here knows I hate
windows, and why make others suffer also.



Thanks Jeff



Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: pundsack@vlsi.waterloo.edu (Mark Pundsack)
Subject: Re: ATM
Keywords: ATM, fonts, small green things from mars
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:26:15 GMT

So ATM will print out nice stuff on your printer.  I've been told that
WinOS2 makes use of the built-in ATM.  However, I have a problem.  I have a
Canon BJ 10ex.  It does 360 dpi, but I only have a Windows 3.0 driver.  It
also emulates an Epson LQ 510 which is 180 dpi.  I can probably use the
Epson driver under OS/2.  That means that I can use ATM at 180 dpi.
However, I want to use ATM (from OS/2) at 360 dpi under Windows using the
Windows driver for the BJ.  Is this possible?  to use a Windows printer
driver and OS/2's ATM?  It would be OK if the 360 dpi driver was limited
to Windows software.

Mark Pundsack

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: altman@sbpmt.cs.sunysb.edu (Jeff Altman)
Subject: Re: Borland C++ for OS/2 v.2.0
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:18:02 GMT

In article <204946@unix.cis.pitt.edu> unixlan+@pitt.edu (Wei-ming (William) Lin) writes:
>Sid,
>
>All I want to say is get the compiler out AS SOON AS POSSIBLE, and make
>it VERY VERY CHEAP for BC++ 3.0 users(like me, of course ;) to upgrade.
>I can not tell you how terrible I feel every night when I think of those
>Windows apps, utils and sharewares coming out minutes after minutes and
>there is a drought in OS/2 apps.  I am writing a small Windows database
>program now.  It started before OS/2 V2 gathered enough momentum toward
>its destined success.  If I want to port it to OS/2 V2 today, it will be
>almost impossible because 1) I can not afford to buy IBM's C Set/2; 2)
>IBM will not even discount the price for me because I am not like those
>heavy weight developers such as Borland who can promise to roll out a
>complete product in certain time frame; 3) no descent class libraries
>available for OS/2 V2.  Well, I am not whining here.  Just throw out a
>high quality and fair priced PM-specific C++ compiler, and I will AGAIN
>throw back my pocket money to you.  How about that?

Well, if you want to be able to develop 32-bit OS/2 programs today at
a reasonable cost, take a look at WatCom C 9.0.  It provides DOS and 
OS/2 versions of a 32-bit compiler with libraries for DOS, Windows, OS/2 2.0.
The educational cost (available with school letterhead, or through a campus
computer store) is $250.00.

>William Lin
>
>"UNIX(tm), X & LAN --- The Promise of the Future!!"
>"And OS/2 V2.0!!"
>
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>"And OS/2 > V2.0, IF IT COMES OUT BEFORE APRIL!!"


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From: tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: I give up!
Date: 8 Apr 92 07:15:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr8.071538.21968
Organization: University of Hawaii

Bert Moshier writes:

>>   From: bgates@microsoft.com ($2e9 man)
>
>Just wondering .... Has anyone tried using the address and seeing if
>"microsoft.com" bounces it.  Maybe it is a valid address?

The 'finger' command responds with "In real life:  ???", so microsoft.com
doesn't know who user bgates is.  Seems like a well done hoax.
From: rcain@netcom.com (Robert Cain)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Comparative programming OS/2 / Win (was Re: sexy guis?)
Date: 8 Apr 92 22:30:58 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I think these apps are catching the iconify message (whatever it is called)
and changing the window to something that looks and acts different rather
than letting it fall through to the default window proc and letting it
put up the bitmapped icon.  It's still an icon though I guess even though
it isn't.
-- 
Bob Cain    rcain@netcom.com   408-358-2007

"There are some strings.  They're just not attached."
                                                    Victoria Roberts
From: teverett@jarthur.claremont.edu (Toby Everett)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Key equivalents
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:57:29 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711

In article <1992Apr13.013603.16275@cco.caltech.edu> josephc@cco.caltech.edu (Joseph Chiu) writes:
>liggio@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Vincent J. Liggio) writes:
>What I really miss on non-Macintosh GUI's are the (almost) standard use
>of Command (Squiggle Key) +  Z, X, C, and V for Undo, Cut, Copy, and Insert...  
>By fortune of coincidence, those keys are perfectly placed for a quick
>one-handed operation...  And the key labeling makes intuitive sense, too!
>
>Look at the keyboard...  They are nicely located in an easy-to-reach cluster!
>Drag-and-highlight with the mouse in the right hand, cut and paste with the
>keys on the left...   
	I completely agree with you.  One of the things I did under Win 3.x
was Autostart Recorder with Alt-x,c, and v assigned to Shift/Ctrl-
Insert/Delete.  I haven't been able to find a similar applet under OS/2.  
Am I missing something?

        --Toby Everett
        --teverett@jarthur.claremont.edu
        --"I'm rooting for Boca.  How about you?"
From: nevries@accucx.cc.ruu.nl (Nico de Vries.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 version DR DOS
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:57:42 GMT
Organization: Academic Computer Centre Utrecht

In <6APR199216591638@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY) writes:

>In article <1992Apr6.091007.14873@news.Hawaii.Edu>, 
>tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) writes...
>>Most of the discussion in this newsgroup has been about how OS/2 will fare
>>compared to Windows.  Having just received a brochure in the mail pushing
>>DR DOS version 6.0, I can't help but wonder whether OS/2 will kill off DR DOS.
>> 
>>Interesting:  the brochure was sent by an American firm to a United States
>>address advertising an American firm's product, but the picture of the DR DOS
>>box showed labeling in German!

>While I am probably wrong, I am still hanging on to my personal theory that 
>the "long term" direction of things is for 4 distinct operating systems to 
>emerge (make that standalone operating systems) for the PC world:

>1.	UNIX
Agreed.

>2.	OS/2
Agreed.

>3.	A "Windows" based complete operating system from Microsoft (not NT-	
>	see below)
Agreed.

>4.	DR-DOS
Not agreed. Althought many OS/2 fans do HOPE this is true actually Microsoft
is far from studit. MS-DOS makes lots of money for MS and they want to keep
it that way (they didn't give DR a hard time in Windows 3.1 for nothing)/


>(5 if Quarterdeck's pet project ever materializes)
DesqView/X is already shipping for a short while. It seems great, I haven't
received it yet so I can't realy comment yet.


>I see Microsoft transitioning away from DOS (which they're about 50% 
>complete in doing) and eventually abandoning DOS for the next generation 
>Windows system, which NT may prove to be a prototype for.  If there are any 
Then they would make the same mistake as with OS/2 1.0 again. I don't think
anyone has the guts anymore to abandon MS-DOS. Probably the HyperTron 3000
will still be capable of running EDLIN.

>remaining DOS users at that point in time, DR-DOS will pick them up.
>While I do not think that OS/2 will "kill off" DR-DOS, I do think that the 
>average DR-DOS user is more apt to go to OS/2 than the average MS-DOS user, 
>primarily due to a higher level of technical competence of the DR-DOS user 
>(DR DOS users generally demand more from their systems, including OS, than 
>MS DOS users)
I don't agree. Most technical experienced I know of use MS-DOS. I used DR
for a while but am back to MS+QEMM+Stacker now. I think the most important
reason for the success of DR is its price (including all those tools etc).

>Just an opinion.
And yet another opinion.

>JD

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith)
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 "Buglet" Report
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 01:14:25 GMT

tanith@csd4.csd.uwm.edu writes:
>
>> (7)  Possible floppy disk problems.  I have not been able to er. 
>
>This is documented in the readme file included with OS/2.  On systems
>with one 3 1/2 drive and one 5 1/4 drive, the 5 1/4 will format disks 
>as 720K disks (previously formatted 1.2MB disks read fine).  No fix
>was mentioned in the readme file besides 'we are aware of the problem & etc.'

What??!!  Tell me it's not true!  I read through the rest of this 
thread and no one even commented on this.  Does this mean that I
can't format 1.2 MB disks in my 5 1/4 drive just because I have a
5 1/4 drive and a 3 1/2 drive?  Is this what you are saying?  :-(
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: swartzjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeff H. Swartz)
Subject: Trident Drivers
Reply-To: swartzjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeff H. Swartz)
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 14:13:14 GMT


	I am not really sure if I have a Trident 8900/9000.  When I boot  
my machine it says 

	Trident TVGA Bios C2.1
	1024K VGA Mode

The manual that came with it only calls it a PVGA card, and makes no  
reference whatsoever to being called a 8900 or 9000.  Could anyone out  
there who has a Trident card or any information send me whatever they can  
tell me.  Or if anyone has Tridents phone number that would work too.  I  
tried to install one of the drivers and it didn't work, although I could  
have done it wrong.  I figured it would be better to ask this VERY  
KNOWLEDGEABLE group for help before I piss away my entire weekend trying  
to get the Trident SVGA drivers to work.


			Thank You,
			Jeff Swartz

			A FORMER Windows/DOS user
			  ------
From: rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: HPFS and Memory
Date: 11 Apr 92 21:10:23 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

swyatt@bach.udel.edu (Stephen L Wyatt) writes:

>Just to note-- all of you 386 users out there that have only 4 megs in a 
>machine that can handle 8 (like me), I've seen prices for 1megX9 SIMM memory
>for $49... thats less than $200 for another 4 megs, which is very good if you
>are seriously considering using OS/2 2.0.

Check the back of PC Week.  You should be able to mail order these
for more like $32 - $35 per 1 MB SIMM....

Robert
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cooper@cedar.cis.ohio-state.edu (frank michael cooper)
Subject: Re: Microsoft wins
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 12:36:48 GMT

In article <6APR199200454278@venus.tamu.edu> tcf9033@venus.tamu.edu (FREY, TONY C) writes:
>
> Anyone hear about Microsoft signing -> 85 <- PC manufactures to bundle
>Windoze 3.1 with their machines?  Includes 8 of the ten top sellers too,
>(i.e. Dell, Gateway, Zeos, etc.).  This sounds like another one of those
>"I wish we would have thought of that" sayings from IBM.  I felt this
>way when I owned my Amiga, kinda like you're doomed by fate to fail.. Come
>on IBM - GET WITH IT!!!!! 

I work for an OEM.  I convinced them to get a hold of IBM and start making
an OS/2 bundle available.  Apparently they were given the cold shoulder by
IBM, BUT if they were to send several thousand dollars worth of machines
down to Boca (I think 6 of every model which they produce if I remember
correctly), they would make the list of compatible machines.  NOT EVEN be
certified as an OEM.

So, the question is why is IBM turning down such an opportunity to really
make OS/2 move and shake in the computer industry.  They're holding all of
the marbles, and being rather stingy and tenative with them....

	-Mike




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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sridhar@cs.scarolina.edu (M. A. Sridhar)
Subject: Re: Setting the path
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 15 Apr 92 13:39:36 GMT

mcover@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark Coverdill) writes:

>Being a novice to OS/2, having very little documentation and little
>time to wade through the help system I thought I would ask some of those
>new user FAQ's :-).

>I realize the path gets setup in the autoexec.os2 file but how I can I get
>more than the paltry 137 characters?

I don't know the answer to this one, but I'd sure like to know!

>And while thinking about this question I have discovered that I cannot
>run any programs in a DOS window.  All I get is SYS0005: Access is denied.

I had the same problem. I ended up booting DOS and creating a tar file
containing ALL of my DOS executables. Then I booted OS/2 and untar-ed
them. (Luckily tar worked under OS/2.) It seems as if OS/2 required
that the executable files be created under OS/2 and not pre-existing.
On one occasion I had success with copying the files (under DOS) to a
floppy, and then copying them back after booting OS/2. Good luck!

>Mark
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>Internet: markc+@osu.edu                              Columbus, Ohio


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From: djl1@ra.msstate.edu (Daniel J Leduc)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Getting OS/2 (corporate style)
Keywords: OS2, OS/2, purchase orders
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:45:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.1992Apr9.214544.28381
Organization: Mississippi State University

After seeing the press release yesterday (I don't read news everyday), 
I tried to get a copy of OS/2.  I realize that for most of us it is
not yet shipping, but I wanted to get my order in so that I would get
it shortly after it does ship.  First of all I called 1-800-3-IBM-OS2.
The pleasant lady on the other end of the line would have been pleased
to take my order with my credit card, but couldn't do anything with a 
purchase order.  She suggested that I call the National Support Center
at 1-800-426-7763.  There they suggested that I could call 800-426-9292
to get the names of local dealers.  I did this and came up with two dealers
one of which could possibly order the full price version but really didn't
think he could sell an upgrade for $49 (Window's upgrade price).  Finally
I called Egghead software since I knew that they take my PO's.  My 
representative there siad that he could order the full price version now,
but that they didn't have it in stock and that he knew nothing about the 
upgrade deals.  All of this leads up to one simple question.  Is there
anywhere that I can place an order for OS/2 version 2.0 using a purchase order
from the US government and still get the $49 Windows upgrade price?  I
would really like to just buy it from IBM if that is possible, but I have
yet to figure out how to place this order.

Dan Leduc
US Forest Service
djl1@Ra.MsState.Edu
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 20:13:15 EDT
From: <WDH2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Is this really Seamless?

I contacted my IBM area marketing manager about what they meant about
"seamless" windows.  Not was he very excited to answer many of my questions, bu
t he said he'd come over to my office and demo the GA code he installed on his
IBM protable.  On Monday at 9:00am (much too early for a grad student ;) ) He m
et me and then proceeded to fire it up on his "confuser"  I could not comment o
n the color scheme -- he has a plasma screen, but it looked very nice.  (I did'
nt inqure about wallpaper)  There sitting directly on the desktop was the Word
for Windows v2.0.  I clicked the mouse and viola, WORD WITHOUT WINDOWS (program
 manager) was up and running full screen.  Yes I could also run it in a window.

No Program Manager needed.

A word to you IBM folks,  I have been working closely with the AIX folks for th
e past year and now I'm turning to you regarding OS/2.  I want to say thanks fo
r the help and support.  You folks have been outstanding in terms of customer s
upport and courtesey.  The AIX sales, CE's and SE's have been great, and for th
e senior area marketing rep to personally give me a test drive of OS/2 in advan
ce of the Penn State OS/2 kickoff simply amazed me.  Thanks and keep up the goo
d work.

Louie Reynaldo
Penn State - Department of Chemistry
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: smbrush@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Andy Brush @Sverdrup)
Subject: Re: os2 and dos both single tasking?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 13 Apr 1992 17:21 EST  

In article <em15iB1w164w@student.business.uwo.ca>, mark@student.business.uwo.ca (Mark Bramwell, Computer Staff) writes...
>I have been a beta tester for os/2 v2.  I have also been an user of
>windows 3.0 / 3.1.
> 
>I ask both IBM and the net 'why do you think "os/2" is multi-tasking?'
[deleted]
>With dos, I boot up a single tasking text-mode environment.
>With os/2, I boot up a single tasking text-mode environment.

WRONG-O, ACE!  OS/2 is multitasking by itself.  Look up the *text-mode* commands 
"START" and "DETACH" in the on line help of the system you "beta-tested".
> 
>With unix, I can  'ps' to see processes, even in single-user mode.  It 
>has swapper/scheduler processes.  Can I see this in os/2 if PM is not 
>running?

Did you ever try typing "PSTAT" at the text-mode command prompt?  This 
shows the processes running.  I have not yet found how to switch processes 
without the PM running (I'm not interested in doing so).

>I would like put forth the comment that dos/windows is the same as 
>os/2&pm.

AARRGGHHH!
> 
>If os/2 is truly multi-tasking, why can't I start two text mode apps and 
>hot key between them?

You can, but the handling of the hotkey is apparently handled by the PM.  
This is actually only evidence of being able to task-switch.  To see the 
difference between DOS+Windows and OS/2+PM, do this:

1) Start a long download using your modem.
2) Start formatting a diskette in a floppy drive
3) Start up any DOS or OS/2 word processor or editor, load a large file, 
and see how your response time is, before the diskette is finished 
formatting.

Let us all know how both systems did.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Subject: No kidding, an IBM comercial on TV !!!
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 16:09:53 GMT


Last night around 10:45pm est, I saw a commercial for IBM on
the Arts and Entertainment cable network.

There was no mention of any products, hardware or software, 
but I was pretty stunned to see it anyway.  It seemed aimed towards
business, and how IBM could make things work.  It featured 
some highly produced cuts of attractive young executives getting
the job done.  What jobs?  They never said.  They never really
said what IBM would do either.  But then, television has always
tended to be more of an emotional media rather than an informative one.  

I was also disappointed because a lot of microcomputer monitors could 
be seen in the  back ground, and none obviously had OS/2 2.0 running on 
them.  How hard would it have been to put the WPS on a comple of those
computers? 

Douglas Bell-


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