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From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Re: Any information on Yanni
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 15:41:10 GMT

Yanni is originally Greek and played in many bands before going solo.
He lives in Seattle and his girl friend is Linda Evans.
For more details on  Yanni check out the excellent interview
that Keyboard magazine did last year (he is on the cover I think).
It provides many insights into the way he composes.
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage,rec.music.misc
From: pedroza@austin.ibm.com (sam pedroza)
Subject: Re: Any information on Yanni
Originator: pedroza@holodeck4.austin.ibm.com
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:32:29 GMT
Organization: IBM Austin


In article <1992Dec22.154110.6044@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally) writes:
> Yanni is originally Greek and played in many bands before going solo.
> He lives in Seattle and his girl friend is Linda Evans.
> For more details on  Yanni check out the excellent interview
> that Keyboard magazine did last year (he is on the cover I think).
> It provides many insights into the way he composes.


  Thanks for your reply Shiv!

  How can I get a hold of past issues of Keyboard magazine?  
-- 
This is a test

Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith)
Subject: Re: "new age" label
Originator: irilyth@fenris
Organization: Evil Geniuses For A Better Tomorrow
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:53:00 GMT

W. Chris Graham (grahamw@cpsc.ucalgary.ca) writes:

> [I'm posting this for Chris at his request; he sent me e-mail saying that he
>  had no posting access and asking me to post this for him.]

Actually, I wrote that; Pnews ate my Originator line, replacing it with the
fairly uninformative "irilyth@fenris". Just wanted to make it clear who that
"I" in the previous comment referred to.

W. Chris Graham really did write:

> All labeling of just about any worthwhile music is inherently imperfect and
> somewhat arbitrary. [snip]

Good examples, and I agree; this is true for any sort of classification
scheme with fuzzy borders. Is "The Difference Engine" cyberpunk or alternate
history? Or both? Back to music, I wouldn't describe Clannad as either "new
age" or "contemporary instrumental", personally; their early work seems
definitively "folk" to me, and their newer efforts fit into something I
usually describe as "rock with a heavy traditional influence".

But back to the original point, the futility of classification. It's often
more useful to answer "What kind of music does Thusandso play?" by comparing
them to groups the questioner has heard of--for example, I can say that
Clannad is similar to Enya, but with a little more mainstream-rock sound,
and if the questioner has heard of Enya, they'll maybe have an idea what I'm
talking about. If I can't come up with any groups to compare Thusandso to,
the best thing to do is probably to hand the person an album to borrow, and
pick up a new fan for the band... (grin)

> I call music "music", and would love record stores to be purely
> alphabetized from front to back.

That would actually be kind of cool. It would sure make it a hell of a lot
easier to find things. How often do you think people go into record stores
and pick a random artist they've never heard of based on what section they
find the album in? Not very often, I'd guess; I don't think record stores
would lose much by breaking down their classification scheme.

Exceptions might be: (a) Classical, which is a pretty distinctly defined
subset, and differs from other music in that you often want to choose a
particular performance in addition to a particular composer; (b) movie and
play soundtracks, which could sometimes be sorted by artist but might better
be sorted by title, and thus sorted separately from the artist listings
(perhaps artists well known for making soundtracks (TD, Morricone, Elfman,
Williams, etc) could have a tag in their sections saying "<artist> has also
done soundtracks for Blah, Blah II, and Return of Blah in 3-D"); (c) multi-
artist compilations, which already generally live in a separate section
anyway.

So, anyone want to start A Better Record Store? (grin)
-- 
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Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA     ::  consult(std-disclaimer.pl).
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From: irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith)
Subject: Re: New Age: NOT! Contemporary Instrumental: YES! + E-music
Originator: irilyth@fenris
Organization: Evil Geniuses For A Better Tomorrow
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 09:41:24 GMT

Elana Beach (elana@agora.rain.com) writes:

> The conclusion?  A new name, a quite definitive name: Contemporary
> Instrumental or "CI".  

The main problem I have with "CI" as a term is the C: I dislike using
temporal terms to describe a genre. In the sixties, calling a major
speculative fiction movement "New Wave" may have seemed like a good idea at
the time, but the wave is hardly new any more--yet the label sticks, to a
large extent. The label "New Age" suffers from is problem as well--it's no
longer really new _now_, and will be much less so twenty years from now. So,
what we think of as "Contemporary Instrumental" music may be contemporary
now, but what happens when it begins to be replaced by something
sufficiently different to need a new classification? Do we pick up something
ridiculous like "Post-Contemporary Instrumental"?

Unfortunately, I don't have any better suggestions at the moment. Despite
the fact that many cyberpunk writers hate the label, calling cyberpunk "the
Movement" would have been ridiculous--as if there would be no more movements
in science fiction? As if there had been none before? No, this is _the_
Movement, not just a Movement, but the big one. Maybe you'd like to think so
if you're a part of it, but "cyberpunk", while vaguely childish and often
not altogether accurate, is at least something most everyone understands,
and which will not seem more appropriate for some other genre a few decades
from now. When some other sort of instrumental music has taken center stage,
we will all wonder why we call the instrumental music of the 60's - 90's (or
whenver) "Contemporary", when it clearly no longer is.

I don't like "new age" either, and wouldn't use it to describe any of the
bands I listen to. I usually go with just "instrumental", or perhaps
"instrumental rock" (in the case of Tangerine Dream in particular); neither
of these is really satisfying either, though. I wish I had a better
suggestion; perhaps we should call it "cybermusic". (grin)
-- 
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Harvey Mudd College, Claremont CA     ::  consult(std-disclaimer.pl).
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Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: George Paap <george_paap@email.sps.mot.com>
Subject: Re: 'Newage' music
X-Xxdate: Wed, 30 Dec 92 13:38:33 GMT
Organization: Motorola RISC
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:54:26 GMT



In article <BETSYS.92Dec29130607@ra.cs.umb.edu> Elizabeth Schwartz,
betsys@cs.umb.edu writes:
>I've heard that Santa Fe has the highest incidence of crystal and
>alternative healers but I bet Cambridge could win on sheer VARIETY of
>"alternative" religions and therapies. Seen recently:

Long list of eccletic groups.

I think Austin, would give Cambridge a 
close race.  And don't forget Berkeley.

George Paap

I am my opinions.
(which almost certainly are not those of my employer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: dfo@csi.compuserve.com (Duane Ott)
Subject: Re: Mark Shreeve, Legion, on CD, sortof
Organization: CompuServe Incorporated
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:50:06 GMT

In article <75992@apple.apple.COM> erekose@Apple.COM (Erik Scheelke) writes:
>Every so often, someone asks if Mark Shreeve has released "Legion" on CD...
>
>Well this may be old news, but it is already out under the name of
>"Oracle".  This CD contains contain renamed and remixed versions of all
>the tracks on "Legion".
>
>Also, there are 3 versions of each song:  The full length track, a 59 second
>track, and a 29 second track.
>
>If anyone finds a US distributor, please let me know.  My brother got his
>CD on a trip to England.

The reason for the multiple edits of each track is because this is a "library"
disc, intended for radio & TV stations to use for commercials and other
background music. (In fact, I've recently heard some Shreeve on such things as
HBO's "Inside the NFL" and an ESPN fitness competition.)

Shreeve has done 4 library CDs. The others are "Riding the Edge", "Power
House", and "Energy Fountain". (SYNTHESIS had a good article on them a few
issues ago.)
They're not supposed to be available to the general public, so finding a
reliable distributor is unlikely. Ranjit Padmanabhan had one set several
months ago, but they went before I could get them.
From: jnc@cs.arizona.edu (John N. Calley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: HOS playlist
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:14:52 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona, CS Dept, Tucson


   I've heard that the playlist for music from the hearts of space is available on the Well.
Is it also available somewhere on the internet?

Thanks,
   John
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: deano@cgl.citri.edu.au (Dean McRobie)
Subject: Re: Volkswagon and Enya/Clannad
Organization: Collaborative Information Technology Research Institute
Date: 30 Dec 92 06:45:50 GMT

gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis) writes:

>No the title of the music is "Theme From Harry's Game" I believe and it
>was done by Clannad.  It can be found on their album Past-Present as well
>as the soundtrack to the film "Patroit Games".  It may also be available
>on another Clannad album to (I think their latest one that was released in
>the U.S.).

I don't know what the last album released in the states was but it is on
"Magical Ring" by Clannad on RCA released in 1983.  I haven't seen the add so
can't comment on whether or not it is the Theme from Harrys game.

deano

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From: steve@oceania.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Any information on Yanni
Date: 24 Dec 92 01:42:17 GMT
Reply-To: steve@oceania.com
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems

sam pedroza writes

>   How can I get a hold of past issues of Keyboard magazine?  

library.

=Steve
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: "new age" label
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:38:55 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <C031CM.23B@agora.rain.com> elana@agora.rain.com (Elana Beach) writes:
>In article <1992Dec27.233918.28287@muddcs.claremont.edu> grahamw@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (W. Chris Graham) writes:
|>
|    >Contemporary Instrumental?  What about the vocals?  
|    >
|Keep CI as CI.  If there's vocals, do what many singers are doing already
|to avoid the dreaded New Age pigeonhole: put it under Adult Alternative.
|There's a place for both.

I've also heard the term "adult contempory" used.  It includes newage and
"jazz" like Grusin, Kenny G, Sanborn, et. al.

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| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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From: tk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Tommy Kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Volkswagon Commercial Music - Final Answers
Date: 31 Dec 92 11:22:36 GMT
Reply-To: tk@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Tommy Kelly)
Organization: Laboratory for the Foundations of Computer Science, Edinburgh U

In article <bmaple.0g1y@burner.com> bmaple@burner.com (Bob Maple) writes:

>This music is from the group Clannad, and I believe you are hearing Maire
>Brennan's voice.  The Clannad CD 'Anam' contains this very song,
>"Harry's Game" from the movie 'Patriot Games', which is the said music in the
>VW commercials.

"Patriot Games" has borrowed the song.
It was originally used as the theme to a British TV series called - 
believe it or not - "Harry's Game".

tk
From: agwing@picasso.ocis.temple.edu (Andrew Wing)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Definition please?
Date: 25 Dec 92 02:20:42 GMT
Organization: Temple University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Tommy Kelly (tk@dcs.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
: I know it can be difficult to define any particular classification
: of music, but could someone have a try at defining new-age music?

	You might want to ftp the archives at cs.uwp.edu to take a looksee at
the initial debate about Emusic that took place before the emdreams list went
on line.  Some good food for thought.

		Andy Wing
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From: apollo@buengc.bu.edu (Doug A. Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: New Age Radio programs in Boston Area
Date: 22 Dec 92 06:27:24 GMT
Reply-To: apollo@buengc.bu.edu (Doug A. Chan)
Followup-To: rec.music.newage
Distribution: ne
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <BzFEEG.2H4@world.std.com> reuber@world.std.com (kent b reuber) writes:
>Does anyone know any radio programs/stations featuring new age in the
>Boston area? Is "Hearts of Space" broadcast by anyone?
>
>The only program I know of is WUMB (U. Mass. Boston) who does an "Acoustic
>Sunrise" program on Sunday mornings 'til 12:00 noon.
>
>Thanks.
>
>reuber@world.std.com

Kent-
   I'll have to add that to my list but here are a few which you might
want to check out:

Saturday:
  90.3FM  8am-1pm : generally "spacey" newage type music with one or two
                    interview segments.

Sunday:
*106.7FM  8am-10am : Mix of newage and jazz.
  96.9FM  6/7pm-8pm: "Conversations" with Russ Davis
                     Music & interview program, generally jazz related but
                     sometimes newage (recently, interviews with Enya, Suzanne
                     Ciani, Mannheim Steamroller...)
  96.9FM  8pm-10pm : "Smooth Sounds"  A good mix of newage music.
  96.9FM  10pm-12am: "Musical Starstreams"  Nationally syndicated program.
 *90.9FM  10pm-12am: "Hearts of Space"

*-I haven't listened to these programs for quite a while so you'll have to
  verify if they're still around.

Now, is "Echoes" carried by any station in the Boston area?

-Doug
apollo@buengc.bu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: "Dan Thompson" <p00166@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Volkswagon and Enya/Clannad
Organization: Vibrant Graphics
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:06:35 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink-DOS (3.3)

I'd like to thank everyone for the info.  It is titled "Harry's Game" 
and is indeed by Clannad.

Thanks again.

Dan Thompson
p00166@psilink.com



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Subject: Re: New single from Tubular Bells II? - catalogue nos?
From: s342024@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:06:19 GMT

In article <724597859.7720@minster.york.ac.uk>, spj-b@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
> In article <oivindi.81.724442433@dhhalden.no> oivindi@dhhalden.no (OIVIND IDSO) writes:
>>
>>A friend of mine has heard rumours about a new single being released from 
>>Mike Oldfield's TB II.
>>
>>Does anyone have some info on this (track-listing, eventual remix(es), etc.)?
>>
> As regards MO here in the UK. He has released Tatoo (the bagpipe section) as a
> single. On the CD single there is also a previously unreleased version of 
> SiIIent Night (as spelt on the cover) and a live version of sentinal (from the
> Edinburgh Concert.
> 
> IMHO silent night is very good (nice guitar solo towards the end). Tatoo is just
> an edit from the album, and Sentinal is not a lot different, it's just that the
> mixing is a little raw.
> 
	Does anyone have the catalogue numbers for these two new CDs?  They
don't seem to be available at the usual outlets here in Oz, so I may have to
resort to ordering from O/S.

	Please post replies - no email.

Thanks in advance, Paul

> 
> Simon
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Toys and Enya
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:57:35 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <BzoG7p.5q4@oceania.com> steve@oceania.com writes:
>Shiv Naimpally writes
|> 
|> I went and saw the movie Toys the other day and the movie itself
|> is very good but the music is also excellent. ... The opening song is
|> a very nice 'world beat' type of song. An OST album is available
|> according to the credits.
|
|Yes, there is a sound track out on CD and (you won't believe this) I saw it  
|in the used bin last weekend at my local CD store!  I don't think the movie  
|has been out for more than a week.  I find it somewhat alarming that someone  
|already purchased the soundtrack, listened to it, didn't like it and traded  
|it in.  That's a fast turn around time.  

More likely it was sent to someone at a radio station as a promo item and
the album didn't match their playlist so they had no use for it.  It's 
amazing the number of good new release items can be found in used stores
because of something like this.

-- 
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| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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From: jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: WBUR discontinues HOS
Date: 28 Dec 92 14:19:34 GMT
Organization: USDA HNRC at Tufts University

Last night, WBUR announced that they were discontinuing Music from the Hearts
of Space, effective immediately.  Does anyone know of any other outlets in
the North Shore (of Massachusetts) area that carry it?  I'm living in Andover,
so at night I have a good shot at picking up New Hampshire and Maine public
radio.  (I'm assuming that it's just BUR and not that HOS has run its course
because Stephen Hill said nothing about the termination of the show.  It was
WBUR's announcement.)
From: jdschnitzer@mv.com (Jeff Schnitzer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: Do'a or Do'ah
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 13:50:30 EST
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In article <1992Dec31.065533.14543@leland.Stanford.EDU> (rec.music.newage), jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey) writes:
  >  	Anyone else out there familiar with Do'a/Do'ah?  (They've changed
  >  the spelling of their name.)  Anyone know what they're up to these days?
  >  Have they released anything since _World Dance_?  Do they still do gigs?
  >  Are they still together?
  >  
  >  	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
  >  

I'm afraid they broke up about a year / year-and-a-half ago.
I think Randy and Ken put together another group with more of a
jazz / world music bent.  I can't recall the name exactly (something
like "Uno Mondo") and I don't know whether it worked out.  

I understand that Ken has been playing regularly at a local Milford NH
coffee house lately.

The four Do'a CDs are:
   Do'a: The Early Years                   (Rounder CD-11539)
   Ancient Beauty                          (Rounder / Philo CD-9004)
   Companions of the Crimson Coloured Ark  (Rounder / Philo CD-9009)
   World Dance  [name now Do'ah]           (Global Pacific / CBS ZK-40734) 

All four are worth owning.  My favorite is Crimson Coloured Ark.

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From: lxfogel@srv.PacBell.COM (Lee Fogel)
Subject: Re: "new age" label
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:15:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.235300.28597@muddcs.claremont.edu> irilyth@fenris.claremont.edu (Josh Smith) writes:
> How often do you think people go into record stores
>and pick a random artist they've never heard of based on what section they
>find the album in? Not very often, I'd guess; I don't think record stores
>would lose much by breaking down their classification scheme.

I completely disagree with you.  Back before the 'new age' label
existed, I discovered Tangerine Dream, Jarre, Vangelis and Tomita
because Sam Goody's had this tiny little section called
'electronic music'.  I often buy CDs based on the section the're in,
the types of instruments used, the producer, label etc.  I discovered
Patrick O'Hearn, Yanni, Giles Reaves and some others this way.  Of
course I also ended up with quite a few dogs.  If anything, I'd
like to see more categories like: Rythmic Electronic, Rock Without
Vocals, Electronic Ambient, Electronic Symphonic, Harmonic Vocals
Without Words, etc.

-- 
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____________________________________________________________________________
From: elana@agora.rain.com (Elana Beach)
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
Subject: Re: "new age" label
Date: 30 Dec 92 17:17:09 GMT
Organization: Open Communications Forum

In article <1992Dec27.233918.28287@muddcs.claremont.edu> grahamw@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (W. Chris Graham) writes:
>
    >Contemporary Instrumental?  What about the vocals?  
    >
Keep CI as CI.  If there's vocals, do what many singers are doing already
to avoid the dreaded New Age pigeonhole: put it under Adult Alternative.
There's a place for both.

E.
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: steve@oceania.com
Subject: Re: Toys and Enya
Reply-To: steve@oceania.com
Organization: Oceania Health Care Systems
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:14:11 GMT

Shiv Naimpally writes
> 
> I went and saw the movie Toys the other day and the movie itself
> is very good but the music is also excellent. ... The opening song is
> a very nice 'world beat' type of song. An OST album is available
> according to the credits.

Yes, there is a sound track out on CD and (you won't believe this) I saw it  
in the used bin last weekend at my local CD store!  I don't think the movie  
has been out for more than a week.  I find it somewhat alarming that someone  
already purchased the soundtrack, listened to it, didn't like it and traded  
it in.  That's a fast turn around time.  Anyhow, if anyone wants me to pick  
it up for them used (I think it's around $9), lemme know.

I looked at the credits on the back and only saw one song by Enya: I'm almost  
positive it was "Edudae" from "Shepherd Moons."

=Steve
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 Palo Alto, CA  (415) 322-0127  |  What the Kenyan Tribesman is *really*
 steve@oceania.com (NeXT mail)  |    saying in that Nike ad.
Newsgroups: rec.music.newage
From: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Subject: Strunz & Farah
Reply-To: shiv@bnr.ca (Shiv Naimpally)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 15:59:55 GMT


Strunz and Farah are two flamenco guitarists - one South American,
the other Middle Eastern. Together they have several albums out.
They are incredible to listen to ! Can anyone tell me more about
them (Strunz was in a fusion band prior to teaming up with Farah) ?
Also, does anyone have any reccomendations for other good flamenco
guitar ? I have the McLaughlin, DeLucia, DiMeola albums. I have
2 of Ottmar Leibert's as well but don't care for them too much.
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