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From: v070n53b@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (MARK PRZYBYSZEWSKI)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC - Kate Collins and Dondre Whitfield (news)
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:24:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Aug11.220850.13778@umiami.ir.miami.edu>, ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes...
>In article <1992Aug7.225955.19642@news.miami.edu>, vicki@kelso.rsmas.miami.edu (vicki halliwell) writes:
> 
>Well, first of all:  FINALLY, SOMEBODY ELSE FROM U. MIAMI POSTED!!!  Hurray--
>Vicki is out at the marine science campus, which has a fabulous sea view from
>their cafeteria (hey, Vicki, I'm coming over next month...should I look 
>you up?  :)
> 
>> In a larger sense, though, the problem is:  what does one DO with a
>> REFORMED vilan/villanness?  
>> 
>> 	If a character is 'evil' (for want of a better word), the the 
>> writers have two choices for character development:  they can make a
>> character who is evil MORE evil or make them into a GOOD persom.  That
>> is what happened to Nat - she was a rare fine vixen in the beginning, then
>> they went and 'reformed' her.
> 
>Yep, as somebody else pointed out, the latest angelic transformation is Gloria. 
>I am heartily sick of the saintly new nurse Gloria.  I mean, gimme a break: she
>is all whispery sweetness, wide-open baby blues, demure smiles...barf-o-rama! 
>But alas, I agree with Vicki, there isn't much else to do with somebody bad if
>they are going to stay around.  

Yeah, I'd been wishing for more of the fire she showed early on lately, and
it did show up on Thursday.  Seeing her hatch that scheme against Adam had
cheered me up; if only I could see her like that more often, I'd be happy.

I'M BACK!!!!!!  Had a great time in Atlanta, except for the rainout Braves
game 8-{(.  Finished 16-11 with a -147 cumulative score, which would put
me in the top 50; could've won prize money if I'd won my last two games,
but it didn't happen.  Wish I'd met Sandra B. while I was down there 8-{(.
But I got interviewed by the Atlanta Constitution 8-{).  Got my name spelled
right, too.  8-{))))))))))))))))))

Met lurker Joel H. from Florida, and we actually watched Tuesday's show
during lunch (I'm glad I wasn't able to update that show; it was BORING!).
He finished 13-13-1 (he had a tie game), which is the halfway point as far
as standings go.

Well, got a lot to catch up on; talk to you soon.

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+ Mark Przybyszewski   v070n53b@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu  v070n53b@ubvms.bitnet +
+ 				GO BILLS IN '92!	              	    +
+		GO BLUE JAYS!				GO EXPOS!           +
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+ I hope we've touched you with a little bit of our evilness.   Crow, MST3K +
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+ It's hard to be religious when certain people are never incinerated       +
+ by bolts of lightning.			Calvin, Calvin & Hobbes     +
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From: sandra@felix.filenet.com (Sandra Cole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Lucas and Livia
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:07:26 GMT
Reply-To: sandra@fritz.filenet.com (Sandra Cole)
Organization: FileNet Corp., Costa Mesa, CA

#zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria) writes:

In article <19271@fritz.filenet.com> sandra@fritz.filenet.com (Sandra Cole) writes:
>
>was trying to convince Livia that he wanted her back...[Spike Lee
>baby, baby, Please, b-a-b-y, Please...[Spike Lee voice off]:-).  

#I agree Sandra! I was really tired of him saying "I want you back baby"...
#It was GOOD to meet you (in the yearbook :-))

It was good to meet you and many of the other netters in the yearbook(we
really are a goodlooking bunch of guys and dolls :-)  I used my very
best Erica-esque pose for the yearbook :-)


Sandra Cole
sandra@filenet.com
From: bartosch@felix.filenet.com (Diane M. Bartosch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: Announcement
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:54:59 GMT
Reply-To: bartosch@fritz.filenet.com (Diane M. Bartosch)
Organization: FileNet Corp., Costa Mesa, CA

In article <51071@seismo.CSS.GOV> minett@seismo.CSS.GOV (Debbie Minett) writes:
>Hi everybody!  First I'd like to say CONGRATULATIONS to
>Diane Bartosch on the upcoming addition to her family!
>I also wanted to let everyone know that Diane isn't the only
>one |-)!!!!  Boy, is it gonna be a looonnnnggggg winter!
>
>Thanks to Yo Mama Helmers for coming up with the baby's
>"name" (with a little modification!)!

Thanks!  When is your little one due??

--Diane
bartosch@fritz.filenet.com
From: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com (n.j.spera)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL -- HOT OFF THE PRESSES!!!!!
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:02:28 GMT
Reply-To: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron Oil Field Research Company, La Habra, CA

In article <92232.144801NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>, NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
|> In article <6078@lhdsy1.lahabra.chevron.com>, njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com
|> (n.j.spera) says:
|> >
|> >In article <92228.185851NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET>, NMBCU@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
|> >>
|> >> Now I have a question for the Tangy one...
|> >>
|> >> "games"? what games?
|> >>                                                              Nelson
|> >
|> >You mean you have to ask - in that case - sounds like you need more vacation -
|> >just put on your thinking cap -
|> 
|> They don't allow you to have one of those at Bayview, the guards like to
|> think its to their advantage. But would you care to give a hint anyway?
|> Also, should we take this to e-mail at this point? :)
|> 
|>                                                                  Cor-ky
|>                                                                    aka
|>                                                                  Nelson
|> 

Gee i duuno - what do the rest of the Peels and Cores think? 
il'' have to ponder that one.

NJ Tangy
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  YEAH | Nancy J. Spera, Geophysics Division       njs@chevron.com      |  GO
  PENS | Chevron Oil Field Research Co.                                 | BUCS
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From: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Subject: Re: AMC: Why ask Why?
Reply-To: patstew@oz.plymouth.edu (Pat Steward)
Organization: Plymouth State College - Plymouth, N.H.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 13:14:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.050413.15091@Princeton.EDU> carol@ivy.Princeton.EDU (Carol Agans) writes:
>Before you read this post, put your best Andy Rooney whining voice on:
>
>1.  WHY does Gloria have to bug her eyes out of her head when she talks?

And, conversely, why does Galen have to squinch her eyes up into
teeny-weeny little slits when she's portraying pain and anguish?
Huh?  Huh?

>3.  WHY does Dr. Blue Jeans get to work on every patient who comes into the
>    hospital?  He seems to specialize in everything.  All the doctors
>    I know will only look at certain parts of my body and refer all other
>    body parts to other doctors.  I wonder if Dr. Blue Jeans would be able
>    to fix the chronic finger pain I'm having from fast-forwarding through
>    all his agonizingly-dull scenes with damsel-in-distress Galen.

You got that right.  These two people have NO CHEMISTRY.  It's
impossible to forget that they're acting.
-- 
Pat Martin Steward                          patstew@oz.plymouth.edu
I myself have never been able to find out precisely what feminism is;
I only know that people call me a feminist whenever I express senti-
ments that differentiate me from a doormat.       Rebecca West, 1913
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From: mjheal@bnr.ca (MJ Heal)
Subject: DOOL: Salem? (was Re: DOOL: Spoilers For Next Week)
Keywords: Where is it?
Reply-To: mjheal@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Ottawa, ON, Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 17:21:39 GMT

In article <1561@sousa.ltn.dec.com>, gio@sousa.ltn.dec.com (Giovanni Della-Libera) writes:
|> 
|> By the way, Where is Salem, anyways?  I always had assumed that it was on the
|> east coast, and thus assumed it was in Mass., but there is no way that they 
|> could be in Mass without at least one New England/Boston accent.

	I think Salem is supposed to be somewhere in the mid-west.  They have
	mentioned on numerous occasions going to Chicago and have made the
	trip sound reasonable short (ie.  Tanner and the Prof went to see a
	BlackHawks game and were back that night after the game and they
	didn't mention flying).

	Of course, when the show originally started I think Salem was in
	New England.

|> Gio

	MJ LImer

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MJ Heal        *        BNR,Ottawa,ON,Canada        *        mjheal@bnr.ca
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From: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com (n.j.spera)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: GH: Where's Monica ?
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:54:17 GMT
Reply-To: njs@mrtoad.lahabra.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron Oil Field Research Company, La Habra, CA

In article <12AUG199211344703@mrl.arc.nasa.gov>, holst@mrl.arc.nasa.gov (Laura Holst) writes:
|> I was watching yesterday's (Tuesday's) show and Alan (or someone) said
|> that Monica is out of the country ?  Did I miss something ?  Where did
|> she go ?
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> 
|> --- Laura Holst

The day after Jason returned home - Monica had left on a trip to China for
a conference - ie it's vacation time for Leslie.

Nancy
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From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AW: New Jenna
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:16:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewsh.1992Aug14.141632.7422
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

Jenna showed human qualities on yesterday's show. She reminded me of the old
Jenna that we used to know. She acted very civilized towards Lorna. She told
her not to leave. If she did leave, she was shutting herself out and it 
wasn't Jenna that was pushing her away. Keeping Jenna away from Dean does
wonders. Where is Dean anyway? Why isn't he with her during the death of
her father? Jenna also saw that Lorna is not invincible - she wears glasses,
can't drive very well and really is a softie deep down inside. I thought
that Jenna was going to completely reject Lorna. This was a pleasant,
unexpected surprise.

I like Lorna with Jake. I think that they would make a hot couple.


John 


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From: comjudi@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Judi Geistlinger)
Subject: AMC Chez Dillon
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 18:58:26 GMT

I noticed for the first time yesterday, that the Dillon home looks an awful
lot like the old Hubbard home, which had been located next to the Martin's.
Does anyone else remember this house, or was it just my overactive imagination?

-- 


Judi Geistlinger
j-geistlinger@uiuc.edu
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From: dias@milton.u.washington.edu (Vivian Dias)
Subject: Re: SB: Connor McCabe
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:13:45 GMT

In article <BsvGFE.34H@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> jereese@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (jean reese) writes:
>
>
>Just wanted to say hi to the SBers. This is my first time posting, but
>I've been reading for a couple of months. I've been watching SB for
>a long time, I think I started back when Cruz and Eden started getting
>together.

  Hi, and welcome.
>
>I agree about Conner McCabe. I didn't like yesterday's show at all
>as it was a really maddening situation.

  Oh, oh, am I going to be in the minority here?  
>
>Didn't we already run this story though? Wasn't another character
>up for a murder charge or something and didn't someone come to town
>making everyone mad? Was it Ethan? Just asking.

  Yup, when Warren was on trail they brought in people to replace Julia
  and Cruz because they were too close to Warren.  That was CC's doing,
  though, this time it's mitigated by the fact that a police officer
  died outside of his juridiction and there were kidnapping charges to
  boot.
>
>
>Jean

  Keep posting, Jean.

  Vivian
>
>


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From: shellys@cbnewse.cb.att.com (michelle.sulski)
Subject: AMC: HELLga & FloRA {WAS:} AMC: Angel's Father
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 04:17:57 GMT

In article debbiek@rruxc.uucp (25670s-Deb Kennedy) writes:
 
>I've been wondering about the relationship between
>Helga and Flora (Ed's Mom).  Maybe Helga resented her
>because Hugo liked her better than Hellcat?

Here's one...HELLga is Flora's sister!  Nepotism was Flora's
"shoe-in" for a position at Wildwind.  But for some reason
HELLga could also be Flora's mother, so if she's Flora's 
mother she'd be Edmund's Grandmother.  Whew...perfectly a
believable scenario in soap opera land.

?~~? ShockWaved Shelly

Wonder Why(s):  I still haven't heard the country duo of
		Randy Travis and Bill Clinton.
From: er1r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Gerard Raymont)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: SB: Tuesday comments
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:50:38 GMT
	<1992Aug11.180155.26578@u.washington.edu>
Organization: Junior, Metallurgy and Materials Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I, as others, believe that it was BJ who shot Frank, but what gets me is
that it wasn't until the forensics officer, or the coroner, or whomever
it was determined that he had been shot, and not beaten to death!  To
the best of my knowledge, the gun was about 3 inches from his face! 
Where was he shot(on his body, I mean) and, if the trigger WAS pulled,
when?  Obviouslky it didn't happen  when the camera switched scenes, or
he wouldn't have had a face to look beaten!  Has there been a break in
communications at SBHQ or what?

Holly
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From: debbiek@rruxc.uucp (25670s-kennedy)
Subject: Re: AMC - Kate Collins and Dondre Whitfield (news)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 20:10:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.163815.27298@webo.dg.com>, sjohnson@dg-webo.rtp.dg.com (Sharon Johnson - IMG - Oracle Port Group) writes:
> In article <l8fp7lINN3jp@male.EBay.Sun.COM> girl@slavery.EBay.Sun.COM (Mary Smith) writes:
> >In article <1992Aug10.192136.13772@umiami.ir.miami.edu> ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
> >>In article <tqxmswp.sasse@netcom.com>, sasse@netcom.com (Ellen J. Sasse) writes:
> >
> >>well, I haven't been impressed with Kate Collins.  For one thing 
> >>(flame alert here) she has put on
> >> enough weight that she has been looking rather matronly. 
>                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> Just one question:  "WHAT THE HELL WAS SHE WEARING ON TUESDAY'S SHOW???!!!"
> Sharon J.

I was thinking, Gee I wouldn't be caught Dead in That (or in a fire;-)
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From: sasse@netcom.com (Ellen Sasse)
Subject: Re: AMC:  Questions and observations
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 15:55:32 GMT
Organization: Not
Distribution: na

karinc@SSD.intel.com (Karin Coffee) writes: 

> Carter is a sleaze.  When is he going to shave? 

When they give him a personality transplant a la Gloria [ or 
Natalie or Erica or ... ] and make him "good". 

I can't decide what I think of Carter. I really hated
John Wesley Shipp in Flash; and I really hate him now but
I think that is probably just good acting (hating him on AMC that is).
I hated watching him when he was getting away with everything, but now
I just loved watching the female-wish-fulfillment-scenes today
with Trevor and Jeremy giving him a taste of his own medicine.
It was like equally matched opposite forces or something, but it
was interesting (I tend to get uninterested if an actor I think stinks
gets matched with an actor/actors I either think stink or are given
more-than-usually-repeated dialogue or more-than-usually-onesided roles).

Ellen "no kneecaps for me, just give me a good storyline" Sasse
From: slowther@ducvax.auburn.edu (Sam Lowther)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: ATWT: Rosehand "C"
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:37:00 GMT
Organization: Auburn University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Alright, now...yesterday we learned that Rosehand called her father in
Michigan...hmmm...Michigan...Detroit...cars...

Despite my original thought that the "C" stood for "Cantilever," maybe her last
name is...hmmm...oh, I don't know...could it be..."CABOT?"

I can see it now.  Another full-blown family enters Y'dale.  Turns out that
Conrail, not GEven is the illegitimate Cabot.  And that the Cabots are 
somehow blood relatives of the 'Dredges.  And that the relationship between
Scooter and Conrail is taboo.  And GEven pushes Conrail out of Walsh, since
she isn't a true Walsh.

Oh, sorry...I was raving there for a minute.  Here comes the trolley.

--Sam

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Auburn University |BITNET:  slowther@auducvax          | I play one on r.a.t.s."
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From: lam5368@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Laura A. Maynard)
Subject: Re: DOOL: Lizard
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 13 Aug 1992 12:34 EST  

In article <16cs42INN117@agate.berkeley.edu>, sally@anableps.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson) writes...
> 
>Okay,
> 
> 
>If we forget about the rape for one moment, was not Lizard
>involved in other nefarious deeds. Jack never killed anyone.
>Lizard killed Steve--okay, you say Sally, but Kay is gone,
>and Jack is rarely on, and then Jo, well she has not been
>seen in months, thus there is no one to remember he killed
>Steve. But what about the stuff at Casa Alamain: he tried
>to kill Kay, Bo, Shane, Jack, Jennifer, Julie, and Alice...
>And as dear sister Peach told me over the phone, we can forget
>everything but trying to kill poor Alice, bringing about her
>heart attack, and forcing her to need a pace-maker.....
>oh yeah, he tried to kill Carlips, and MM--I will forgive him
>for f**k-up here and not getting the job done (there would be
>a smilely face but remember my creedo "smilely faces are for
>wimps").  Thus, I think that the character of Lizard has more
>sins to overcome than Jack ever had....
> 
>And, Jack was a good person in the beginning than he became
>warped....now Michael Sabatino does a great job of making
>Lizard evil, yet likeable....I feel guilty that I am drawn
>to the character...he is so seductive, yet so evil...and this
>is what for me makes the character appealing...to make him
>redemned would ruin everything....Now, this is Sabatino's
>opinion too..and I think he knows best about his character.
> 
> 
>Little Miss Crystal Chappell just seems like a whiner....
>She is on more than anyone else, she has scenes....so
>I cannot see why she needs a triangle storyline too. I
>am pissed that TPTB are ruining Lisanne, she was a great
>character, but they are making her foolish, so as to
>promote Crystal's Coitus even further.....Lynn Herring
>is a actress, not a mediocre one like Crystal....Everyone
>should have a storyline and airtime....And I think Crystal
>does not seem sensitive to this....
> 
>Sally
>P
>unhumble opinon as always.
>d
>-- 
>There's the progress we have found                ||  Sally A. Wilson
>A way to talk around the problem                  ||  Potato "Spud" Peel
>Building towered foresight isn't anything at all  || sally@mica.berkeley.edu
>Buy the sky and sell the sky and bleed the sky and tell the sky--R.E.M.

I don't normally post, and would not have except I felt the need to point out
one thing that may make everyone less outraged.  If they expect us to forget
all the bad deeds of Lawrence, they can forget it, however if they plan on
pairing Carly with Lawrence, we should be thrilled.  It will give everyone
a chance to complain even more about her (i.e.  more fuel to the fire) and
maybe we can get rid of her.  This may help in improving the character of
Bo.  Just my opinion.  Oh well, back to lurking.

					Grinch



Vivian:  Don't compare yourself to me my dear, you're nowhere near my league.
Danielle:  I doubt anyone is, outside of hell.
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From: dias@milton.u.washington.edu (Vivian Dias)
Subject: SB - Stuff
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:54:38 GMT


  Rick, I'm with you, I like Agent McCabe!  In addition to playing an
  arrogant ass really well he's not hard on the eyes.  But McCabe with
  Kelly, I'd rather see him go up against the Big A, Angela.  Now sparks
  could fly with those two.

  What's going to happen with Micah and Jodie, do you suppose?  Will
  Micah remember what it was like to be unjustly accused of murder
  and help Sawyer try to get away or will Sawyer and Aurora start
  running and Micah and Jodie go after them, Micah to bring them back,
  Jodie to help them hide?  Interesting pairing - Micah and Jodie.

  Mason and Julia on opposites sides of the courtroom.  Yes!  I'm
  looking forward to this one.

  Is it just me or is CC turning into a bit of wimp?  Come on CC let's
  see some coniving, underhanded, dirty-dealing (this stuff with Ken
  and Sophia doesn't count 'cuz it's boring).

  Frank being shot under the arm is one more clue pointing to BJ, I
  think.  If it had been Reese or Jodie they would have aimed at a
  different part of the anatomy, wouldn't they?  BJ probably isn't
  that expert with a gun so when she fired the bullet went askew.
  Or maybe not.  Maybe something or someone from Frank's past caught
  up with him on the desert.  Was it ever explained why he left
  Florida?  Was it just to hook up with BJ again or were there darker
  reasons?

  I like these new previews with the one person talking.  Are the other
  NBC soaps doing this or is this a SB exclusive?

  Just the miscellaneous ramblings of an addicted SB fan...

  Vivian
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