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From: brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis)
Subject: Re: Sydney's SF Film Fest
Reply-To: brent@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Distribution: aus
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:53:00 GMT

(Sean Volke) writes:

 >Well, it's Tuesday now does anyone know if they've been printed yet ?
 >The question is will they be printed in time ? If at all ?

Just go there and pay. They'll send the tickets out. They weren't there
on Sunday, btw. :-)

              Brent.

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Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: matty@cs.su.oz.au (James Matthew Farrow)
Subject: Season three...
Organization: Basser Department of Computer Science
Distribution: aus
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:04:07 GMT
Keywords: Beverly ST:TNG evolution Nanites

Hey!  Notice the stardate last night 43125.8!
                                      ^

Season three at last.  Does anyone have opinions on the new title sequence
and music?  Does anyone have any comments on the story?  I quite liked
it.  I thought they dealt well with Bev coming back after a separation from
her son and concerned how things were going.

					Matty.
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matty@cs.su.OZ.AU                       | of my existence.  My world fell dark
Basser Department of Computer Science   | and my life became a shallow dream.
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Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: timkin@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tim Wilkin)
Subject: Re: Wesley (was: Re: Season three...)
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:23:37 GMT

Remek Lipinski (remek@mamura.ee.mu.oz.au) wrote:
: I do not understand why everyone hates Wesely so much.

cause he's such a dork of a character!

 Perhaps it is because
: deep down most people (tng fans) would do anything to be in his place?

Well, speaking for myself (and probably alot of 'Trekkies' as well!) I'd
give up almost anything to be an officer on a Galaxy Class Cruiser like
the Enterprise...BUT...since the aint been built yet that's going to be
a bit hard.

 Or
: maybe he remids us of all the things we aspired to and never achieved?

Now, considering my last comment, how the hell could anyone aspire to be
like Wesley and achieve it...it isn't the 24th 1/2 century and I don't
think any of us will be around to see that New Years Party!!!


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From: ibacon@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (Ian Bacon)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: STTNG: Evolution
Date: 19 Nov 1992 09:25:37 +0800
Organization: The University of Western Australia
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Isolated in the cultural abyss of Perth where TNG is shown weeks after
it is broadcast in the east I have just seen "Evolution". Good show, but
I suggest to Capt. Picard that he have Wes's science teacher keep a
closer eye on Wes's experiments. What will happen in future episodes?

I seem to remember an episode where Wesley has an experiment containing
anti-matter. Is this not a little dangerous even for the 24th C? "Damm,
did I recharge the batteries for the containment device"?


Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: richard@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (richard hagen)
Subject: Re: The Avengers, 18/11
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 04:10:41 GMT

hughm@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Hugh McGuinness) writes:

>(what _was_ his name? my TV decided to go blurry at that
>point in the credits).

Don't know - but I did notice the name ``Penelope Keith'' listed as one of
hte nannies.

richard
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Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: jgh@plasma.apana.org.au (John Gerald Howell)
Subject: Re: Wesley (was: Re: Season three...)
Organization: APANA site, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 02:49:45 GMT
Distribution: aus

remek@mamura.ee.mu.oz.au (Remek Lipinski) writes:

>I do not understand why everyone hates Wesley so much. Perhaps it is because
>deep down most people (tng fans) would do anything to be in his place? Or
>maybe he reminds us of all the things we aspired to and never achieved?



I have to agree, Wesley Crusher is a great character; intelligent,
witty, sophisticated, charming, talented, he has all the qualities I so
admire in a Star Fleet officer. Who wouldn't trade places with
someone so obviously in tune with other peoples feelings and needs?
I've always dreamt of being aboard the Starship Enterprise, hurtling
through space, a young ensign, bound for greatness. A young ensign who
could solve any problem, handle any situation, just by being present in
the same room, just by focusing his mind for an instant. In my youth,
after watching an episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation,
I remember turning to my brother and saying:

'I want to be just like Wesley.'

My brother, of course, agreed totally. He too had dreamt of being like
Wesley; out there in the far reaches of the galaxy, in command,
unstoppable. He too had come to respect such an awesome figure,
such a mystical, magical boy. Over the years Wesley has become an
idol to me in every way, a symbol of all that is honest and true,
a beacon to guide me home, a source of inspiration, knowledge, hope.
Who could forget such incisive dialogue? All those tender
moments as he grew towards manhood? The loyal protection he gave
Captain Picard when he was suffering heart trouble? The anguish he
felt when he discovered his girl friend was a shape shifting metamorph?
It disgusts me to think that anyone could find flaws in such a
flawless creation. The character who has inspired and profoundly moved
so many fans deserves all the praise he can get. Three cheers for
Wesley Crusher, in all the known universe, there is no-one I admire
more.
  


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John Howell Melbourne Australia
(jgh@plasma.apana.org.au)
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Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: djk@bby.com.au (David Keegel)
Subject: Re: Evolution
Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge & Young Ltd., Melbourne, Australia
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:26:00 GMT

u2104805@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

] One thing which I did notice in last nights episode, was that all of
] a sudden it was over.
] I think that happened in the last 5-8 minutes of the episode.

Isn't this true of *all* the (recent) ST:TNG episodes?

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Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Aus.sf Dinnner (Melbourne) 3rd Posting.
From: jem@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Joan McGalliard)
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:42:30 GMT
Organization: Australian Computing and Communications Institute

Voting seems to have stopped, so here is a summary.  
I will post next week with full details after I
have booked the restaurant.

Date 3rd of December.
Place Kimchi house.

If you would like to come and haven't contacted me yet, can
you do so ASAP, so I can book for roughly the correct
numbers.

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Summary of voting:

I have received replies from:

andrew@daneel.rdt.monash.edu.au (Andrew Moore)
s900387@minyos.xx.rmit.OZ.AU (Craig Macbride)
Gregory Bond <gnb@bby.com.au>
Neil Murray  (R&D Dept)  vk3unx    Email:  neil@wcc.oz.au
Joe Zolin <jzolin@neumann.une.edu.au>
Kevin Burfitt <zaph@torps.apana.org.au>
mwp@muse.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Michael Paddon)
Add also Chris Chittleborough (1 S.U.)
sietsma@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Jocelyn Sietsma Penington)
andrea@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Andrea)
pears@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Arnold N Pears)
ggr@nareen.acci.com.au (Greg Rose)

Dates:  3 votes for 2/12, 4 for 3/12.

For the venues: as many people named more than one restaurant,
I recorded 1st/2nd/3rd preferences.  This made Kimchi House
a clear winner, with Tiffany's pizza the backup.

Restaurant	First	Second	Third
Sukho-Thai 		1
Alasya 			1	1
Tiffany's Pizza 2	2	2
Kimchi House 	6
Afghan Gallery  1	1

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From: s914311@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Kasra)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Season three...
Date: 17 Nov 1992 06:11:52 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
Distribution: aus
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

Ian_Price@itd0.dsto.gov.au writes:

>In article <1992Nov12.230407.17857@cs.su.oz.au> matty@cs.su.oz.au (James
>Matthew Farrow) writes:
>>Hey!  Notice the stardate last night 43125.8!
>>                                      ^
>>
>>Season three at last.  Does anyone have opinions on the new title sequence
>>and music?  Does anyone have any comments on the story?  I quite liked
>>it.  I thought they dealt well with Bev coming back after a separation from
>>her son and concerned how things were going.

	I like the new title.  Dont recall any difference in the music,
but I wasnt listening to it. 
	The story was alright, but I am REALLY getting annoyed with Wesley.
The little shit should be thrown into deep space.  Maybe that will be
the beginning of some REALLY good shows!  :-)

>Then I saw the
>uniforms and thought it must have been a very early episode as they were so
>baggy (I much prefer the 'skintight' uniforms...Comments anyone?).  

	I thought, and still do, that the uniforms are SHIT.  They don't
look professional at all.  Imagine being a crew member of the
Enterprise and having to wear baggy uniforms.  Come on!!

>Ian


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Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: soh@tmp_ip_003.trl.OZ.AU (Soh Kam Hung)
Subject: Re: Season three...
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:43:01 GMT

Ian_Price@itd0.dsto.gov.au writes:

>I noticed the different start and wondered what was going on.  Then I saw the
>uniforms and thought it must have been a very early episode as they were so
>baggy (I much prefer the 'skintight' uniforms...Comments anyone?).

Having collars and straight shoulders makes the Starfleet uniforms more
military.  However the shoulder padding looks awkward for the actor who
plays Riker; he's a big man and the padding makes him look stiff.  Dr.
Crusher's costume is more casual and in line with a consulting doctor
outfit.

>There were other slight differences too....like Troi's lipstick was
>much thinner ( much prefered the other fuller outline).

Why does Cnr. Troi have so much lip gloss compared to Dr. Crusher?  Is
there something about being a Betazoid?

Brent Spiner's (Data) makeup is less severe than before; I didn't
realise the difference until I watched the flashback scenes in ``Shades
of Grey'' (yeah, I was bored).  Data now looks more human (though he
always has perfect hair styling).

Regards,

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Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: tjm@ecr.mu.oz.au (Trefor_John MORGAN)
Subject: Re: Evolution
Organization: Dept. Engineering Computer Resources, Melbourne Uni.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:51:00 GMT

> One thing which I did notice in last nights episode, was that all of
> a sudden it was over.
> I think that happened in the last 5-8 minutes of the episode.
>
>Isn't this true of *all* the (recent) ST:TNG episodes?
>
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  I thought the abrupt end to Evolution was justified.  I think they were
trying to highlight the fact that evn though the Neutron Star experiment was
a success, it paled to insignificance to Wesley creating (causing) a new life
form.  

	Does this make Wesley the Nanorobot's God??? 
	I think the Nanorobots would make a good ally against the Borg. I
wonder if they are evr used in an offensive manner.


Trefor John Morgan.
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: TNG book: Q-In-Law
From: s334147@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:09:45 GMT

In article <11028@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, rhys@cs.uq.oz.au (Rhys Weatherley) writes:
> It's great to see season 3!!  Thanks Channel 9.  Just keep those ratings up
> everyone, and hopefully we'll get to see the lot eventually. :-)
> 
> OK ... the point of this article:
> 
> Normally, you understand, I just look at the TNG books in the stores and don't
> buy them, because I know that if I buy one and read it, I won't be able to
> stop until I've read them all, at great cost to my wallet.  A definite
> character flaw. :)
> 
> Anyway, yesterday I noticed the latest one in the store.  And lo and behold,
> Q was on the cover!  So, against my better judgement, and the above-mentioned
> policy, I just had to have it and payed out the money.
> 
> Well, what can I say?  "Q-In-Law" by Peter David is a riot!  I was laughing
> my head off all the way through.  4 hours after purchasing the book, I turned
> the last page very impressed (I'm a speed reader - another character flaw :) .
> 
> Basically the plot of the story is "Q meets Lwaxana Troi".  Need I say more? :)
> In the background is a wedding linking two alien factions, which Q manages
> to stuff up (of course).  The climax is particularly hilarious.  But, I'll
> shut up now or I'll ruin it for you. :)
> 
> Buy or borrow this book if you are a Q fan - I'm sure you'll love it as I did.
> 
> Now all I have to do is restrain myself from buying all the rest of the books
> in the next 2 weeks.  Maybe if I limit myself to 1 a week?  Yeah, that's the
> ticket - 1 a week. :)
> 
> Has anyone else read any of the other TNG books?  If so, post your impressions
> here.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Rhys.
> --
> Rhys Weatherley, University of Queensland, Australia.
> rhys@cs.uq.oz.au  "I'm a FAQ nut - what's your problem?"

I've read all of TNG books - Q-In-Law is definitely the best.
I would recommend any of the Peter David books - expecially IMZADI, which 
is brilliant.  But it is only out in hardback at the moment.
Jean Lorrah (sp?) is also brilliant - read Survivors if you are a Tasha fan.
I also recommend "A Rock and a Hard Place".  Most of the latest TNG books
aren't that good - you may be better off buying a few here and there.
I've fallen into the trap of buying every TNG book that comes out - it is 
rather expensive!

Katharine Shade.

Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: "colin mcgregor" <colin.mcgregor@canrem.com>
Subject: fen sources
Reply-To: "colin mcgregor" <colin.mcgregor@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: aus
Date: 20 Nov 92 09:14:26 EST

I love how some conferences carry listings of where find the good stuff,
the items that you will not normally run across. This is my first
attempt at a list like that, where to find the odd items fen want. I
have had good to excellent dealings with all of the firms listed below,
BUT be warned I have not dealt with some for several years. If you know
why any of these firms should not be listed, or know of a firm that
MUST be listed in a list like this, let me know.

Books - New/Used:

   Bakka, 282 Queen Street West, Toronto, Ontario, M5V 2A1 (416)
   596-8161

Canada's largest/oldest SF bookstore. They do have a mail order
service.

Buttons - Parts/Equipment:

   Badge A Minit, 348 North 30th Road, Box 800, LaSalle, IL, 61301,
   U.S.A. (800) 223-4103, (815) 224-2090

They seem to be the largest button maker. They only support 2.25" buttons.
Machines start at about $30 and go up. They also sell button parts, paper
cutters, and other button making accessories.

   Mr. Button Products Inc., 5739 W. 85th St., P.O. Box 68355, Indianapolis,
   IN, 46268-0355, U.S.A., (317) 872-7000

Support for over 10 different button sizes. Their machines cost more than
B-a-M, but parts are less than B-a-M. Unlike B-a-M, Mr. Button parts do NOT
have advertising on them! The Mr. Button 2 3/8" parts will fit Badge-A-
Minit machines.

Buttons, pre-made:

   Nancy Lebovitz, 400 Wollaston Ave., C6, Newark, DE, 19711, U.S.A.

Nancy Lebovitz has put together the largest collection of cute/clever/
etc. button saying that I've seen. It's a delight just to sit and read
her catalog. She does custom work.

Convention listings:

   The SF Con Register, Box 3343, Fairfax, VA, 22038, U.S.A. (703) 273-3297

Assembled by Erwin S. ("Filthy Piere") Strauss this is THE convention
listing, EVERYTHING gets listed. Indexed by guest, place, name and date.
Cost: $10 (U.S.)/yr. (4 issues) in N. America, $12/yr. overseas. $2+
S.A.S.E. for a sample issue.

Toys:

   Isher Artifacts, 530 W. Walnut Street, Kalamazoo, MI, 49007, U.S.A.

"Expensive but worth it" could be this firms motto. Isher makes a range
of ray guns, sonic screwdrivers, Dr. Who scarves and other SF toys. Most
are beautify machined out of acrylic and/or aluminum. They offer ray guns
that contain a low power laser. They do custom work. Catalog $1.00 (U.S.).
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From: Scott_Le_Brun@guru.apana.org.au (Scott Le Brun)
Newsgroups: aus.sf
Subject: Re: Wesley (was: Re: Season three...)
Distribution: world
Date: 21 Nov 92 23:05:59 +1100
Organization: Guru Meditation BBS

In a message dated Thu 19 Nov 92  8:32, Remek@mamura.ee.mu.oz.au (remek Lip
wrote:

 RL> I do not understand why everyone hates Wesely so much. Perhaps it is
 RL> because
 RL> deep down most people (tng fans) would do anything to be in his
 RL> place? Or
 RL> maybe he remids us of all the things we aspired to and never
 RL> achieved?
 RL> ======================================================================
 RL> =========
 RL> ** Remek Lipinski   :  remek@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU                     
 RL>         **
 RL> **                                              "I'll be back!"  -
 RL> T800      **
 RL> ======================================================================
 RL> =========

The reason is simple....nobody likes a smartarse. Those big doe eyes saying
"Did i do that?"

Aaargh!  Die wesley die!


-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: steve@fulcrum.oz.au (Steve Taylor)
Subject: Re: Wesley (was: Re: Season three...)
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:30:28 GMT

remek@mamura.ee.mu.oz.au (Remek Lipinski) writes:

>I do not understand why everyone hates Wesely so much. Perhaps it is because
>deep down most people (tng fans) would do anything to be in his place? Or
>maybe he remids us of all the things we aspired to and never achieved?

Reminds us of what dorks we were when we were teenagers, I'd say.



							Steve
Newsgroups: aus.sf
From: "colin mcgregor" <colin.mcgregor@canrem.com>
Subject: science fiction hams
Reply-To: "colin mcgregor" <colin.mcgregor@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: aus
Date: 18 Nov 92 11:04:36 EST

This message is aimed at ham radio operators who plan (hope?) to be
at next year's World Science Fiction Convention in San Francisco
(ConFrancisco).

First a bit of history. At the 1991 convention Avery Davis WB4RTP
started a collection of amateur callsigns. Then shortly before this
years convention he sent out a letter to all of the hams he had met
in 1991, attempting to (sort of) organize the hams he encountered.
The result was quite pleasant, having several people at the con
with whom the discussion could switch easily between my two
favourite topics, science fiction and ham radio. Now, I am looking
to help expand on what Avery Davis did last year. I have been in
touch with the hams that I met at the 1992 convention, at least the
ones I have e-mail address(es) for. If I have not been in touch with
you, and you plan to be at ConFrancisco please send me your name,
e-mail address, and callsign.

It looks like we will have a panel on ham radio at ConFrancisco.
What I would foresee for this panel is an introduction to ham
radio, attempting to get people interested in ham radio. This is
something I want to help with but it is not something I can do
alone. I'm not even sure if I ought to be taking the lead in this
one. I know the Canadian rules/regs, but I'm not very familiar with
the U.S. rules/regs let alone how the U.S. V.E. system works (and
I am clueless re: Australian rules/regs). I'm just getting my
T.N.C. for packet operation up and running, and I don't (yet) have
a HF station up and running. In other words, I don't know enough
(yet) to hope to do a successful panel alone. So, who would like 
to be a part of (run?) a ham radio panel?

I have been making enquiries about getting my call sign/e-mail
address put in small print under my "regular" name for my
ConFrancisco name badge. It can be arranged, and anyone else who
would like it done on their name badge should contact:
72377.3623@compuserve.com <Kevin Standlee> or ConFrancisco, Attn:
Registrar, 712 Bancroft Road, Suite 1993, Walnut Creek, CA, 94598,
U.S.A..

Also, I'm interested in putting on a ham radio party in San
Francisco for science fiction hams and ham want-a-bees. How many
people would be interested?

Finally I have been in touch with a ham who lives in the San
Francisco area who says he MAY (and at this point I will put some
emphasis on the word MAY) be able to get access for ConFrancisco
hams on a San Francisco area 2 metre repeater.

VE3ZAA
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