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From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 is kinda UGLY !!!
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Oct 92 19:19:20 EDT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

Hey, I think the Mac-in-boxes are UGLY!!!!!!!! And, I hate the feel of Mac
keyboards, and the size of the screens, and the inability to move the
monitor .....

Give me FUNCTIONALITY, not a box that looks like and seems designed for
bimbos......


-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

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From: mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas)
Subject: Re: Amiga for musicians (was Re: Falcon 030 vs. "next generation" Amiga)
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 01:31:34 GMT
Organization: StarNine Technologies, Inc.

In article <54174@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@snoopy.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>In article <1ab50gINNeuj@uwm.edu> gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block) writes:
>>Some of the great
>>stuff by Blue Ribbon SoftWorks (did they change their name to or from
>>that?) like Bars & Pipes Pro, well known stuff like Dr. T's stuff,
>>available editors, and some of the advanced SunRize boards are some of
>>the most powerful things available for ANY computer system.
>
>	Ummm... no way.  One of the Amiga's weakest areas is MIDI and
>music.  No Amiga MIDI package compares to the Mac's Performer or Vision.
>(B&P Pro is good only if you like the "pipes" metaphor.)  There are NO
>professional quality Amiga scoring/notation programs.  (Dr.  T's "Copyist
>Professional" is NOT pro quality, due to several terrible design flaws.)
>Digidesign has a several-year headstart over any Amiga company in digital
>audio processing.  Heck, the Mac already has several integrated MIDI +
>direct digital recording packages.
>
>	As you all know, I think the Amiga is a fabulous computer.  But as
>an electronic/computer musician for the past 13 years, I definitely believe
>that the Amiga suffers in comparison to other music platforms.  And it's a
>damn shame, too.
>
>                                                        Dan
>
> //////////////////////////////////////\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\
>| Dan Barrett -- Dept of Computer Science, Lederle Graduate Research Center |
>| University of Massachusetts, Amherst, MA  01003  --  barrett@cs.umass.edu |
> \\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\\/////////////////////////////////////

Ah-hah!  Sounds like Barrettism at work.  You DO have the gene, Dan.  OK,
you brought this on yourself..  lessee, this plug goes in here...
power to maximum... pour in the acid... set the e-mail address... NOW!

Oh No!

My copy of BLAZEMONGER won't attack it's author!  This isn't
fair!  I don't remember any notices about "daddy protection" on
the cover!

Maybe I need to read the manual... wait a minute, why is my monitor
looking at me that way???   it's flashing something... something...

    "ME NO LET YOU HURT CREATOR!"   (Ah, so Jeff Young's in on this)

...NO... STAY AWAY... A-A-A-R-R-G-G-H-H....

(Hours later, a bloody pulp is found steaming in front of an
Amiga 3000 displaying a cheery, spinning, bouncing checkered ball...)
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From: aces@mcode.amdahl.com (Jeffrey D. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.programmer,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Catching RBUTTON before Intuition
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:11:22 GMT
Reply-To: jds30@amail.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale Ca.

In article <1992Oct13.044619.29108@vlsi.polymtl.ca>, sevigny@vlsi.polymtl.ca (Benoit Sevigny) writes:
> I am trying to implement a Workbench-like selection box (those rotating dashed
> lines you see when you select a group of icons.
> 
> Using the following code, I get a deadlock if, during the selection, I hit the
> right button before I release the left button.  This is because Intuition
> seems to receive the event (and tries to draw the menus) before I receive
> it.  Is there any way to avoid that behaviour if I really want to cancel the
> selection (and hence to get out of the loop) if the user presses the right
> button?
Have you tried using RMBTRAP and MENUVERIFY in your IDCMP flags?
From: chrisg@cbmvax.commodore.com (Chris Green)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Why A3000 Owners Are Mad
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:18:22 GMT
Reply-To: chrisg@cbmvax.commodore.com (Chris Green)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Oct13.104357.11897@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU> trevore@vast.unsw.edu.au (Trevor Elbourne (Supr. Hell) BE) writes:
>  Don't even really need RTG, if you are prepared to rewrite graphics.library,
>  GVP have already done this much !!

	The problem with the "re-write graphics.library approach" is that the version
they cloned is out of date. For instance, in order to get any of the Workbench 3.0
stuff to run (MultiView, amigaguide, datatypes, colorwheel, backdrop, etc.)
they will have to add the 3.0 functions to their graphics.library clone. With
RTG, not only would they have less work to do in the first place, but they wouldn't
have to keep playing catch-up with the "real" graphics.library.
	Not that their interim solution isn't a pretty amazing accomplishment.
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From: pss1@kepler.unh.edu (Paul S Secinaro)
Subject: Re: A4000, A Marketable Machine?
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 11:36:14 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.190617.21780@rmece49.upr.clu.edu> raist@rmece02.upr.clu.edu (Ricardo Hernandez | 802-36-4453) writes:
>
>    As for you, G. Greene, consider that that "nice" (ok, is nice, I admit it)
>ATI ultra local bus card CAN'T ANIMATE IN 256k colors OUT OF 16.6 million (24
>bit) which is exactly what the A4000 can do.

Actually, it can animate in 16.6 million colors out of 16.6 million
(well, okay that's the ATI Ultra+, but it costs the same as the older
Ultra, I believe).  At least, it should be able to in theory.

Paul
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pss1@kepler.unh.edu
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UNH Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering
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From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: The return of the 040 vs 486 thread..Re: My next machine: Amiga or PC Clone? Help me out.
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:56:17 GMT
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Stephenson Daniel A (das9674@usl.edu) wrote:
: 
: An EE friend read it somewhere, and told me, and someone posted here pointing
: this out.  You're the only one who has disputed it so far.  Several
: people have talked aobut this before.
: 

I've also seen Motorola boasting "50MHz internal operation" in a magazine
advertisement.
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From: thom@crayfish.ucsd.edu (Thom Cleland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Its a sad sad day...
Date: 8 Oct 1992 16:30:39 GMT
Organization: Tenuous at best
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In article <1992Sep28.042221.9288@disk.uucp> sparks@disk.uucp (John Sparks) writes:
>
>Here is what I think CBM should do (should have done a long time ago):
>The special chips (graphics and sound) should be like they did with the
>CPU on the A4000, be on a modular system. a separate board. Then when
>CBM comes out with improved systems, CPU's, graphics, sound, whatever,..
>old customers can improve their machines to the latest and greatest without
>having to trash their whole investment.
>
>Why couldn't CBM do this? WHY? Even Dave Haynie said this was what he 
>wants in a machine (totally modular). If they can put the CPU on a separate
>board, why not the graphics chips? why not the sound chip?
>PC's do it, Macs do it. CBM should have done it with the A2000 forward.
>
Indeed, that's exactly what they did in the A4000!  The AGA graphics
subsystem is on its own separate board, which happens to be horizontal
within the machine.  The CPU subsystem is on a separate board which 
happens to be vertical within the machine.  To the best of my knowledge,
you can pop out your CPU card etc., replace the "motherboard" with a 
new "motherboard", pop the CPU into the new motherboard and go--such
"motherboards" containing some new VAGA graphics subsystem  (Very A.G.A).
Sure, you've got the CIAs and some port-controlling logic on board as
well, but I don't think  (though neither do I know)  that that's the 
expensive part of a new board.  Just think of it as an expansion board
that happens to be flat on the bottom of the computer.  

I don't think, given the level of integration and the speed that the
new systems portend, that putting the different AGA chips on different
expansion cards is a good--or even feasible?--idea.  I think theyr'e
much too dependent upon each other... like one chip in three  (or more)
bodies.  Plus there's the simple matter of space within the box, and
extra cost for the system.  

The A4000 didn't blow my socks off, but then it's not quite really done
yet in my view.  Almost.  What I do like, a lot, is the modular design
philosophy and the course planned for the future  (at least as was stated
by VP Eggebrecht at the WOCA).  Looking forward to the two-chip set; that'll
be the start of the true renaissance for me.  

Thom

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Subject: Re: A4000 Flaws?
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:56:42 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

In article <jayson.03vf@tbag.tscs.com>, jayson@tbag.tscs.com (Jayson Phillips) writes:
> 
>>What the hell flaw does the A4000 have?
> 
>In general:
>    - a new graphic standard with no smooth upgrade for current Amiga owners
>    - too little too late
> 
All I hear on the net is people w/ 3000's complaing that their machine is 
better and that there is no "smooth" upgrade path.  Does IBM offer a "smooth"
upgrade path? Does Apple? no.  Of the two other major comptitors only apple
offers "motherboard swaps" and for 80% the cost of the new unit at that.  I
think that all the unhappy 3000 owners out there should just wait a bit to
see what comes from 3rd part development before jumping up and down complaining
about how CBM didn't do somthing that they aren't expected to do anyhow.

Jim 
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From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: 2MEG CHIP RAM (a problem?)
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:06:35 GMT
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Simon Cope (copes@cs.curtin.edu.au) wrote:
:
: :-).  Then I copy the includes to ram:, make lattice resident and still have
: mucho ram left to work in.  Windows really is a pig....
: 

Add virtual memory, DIG, and DOS emulation to AmigaOS, and then tell me how
slim it is.

:
: copes@cs.curtin.edu.au
: 
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From: soh@tmp_ip_003.trl.OZ.AU (Soh Kam Hung)
Subject: Re: Deep Thoughts 
Organization: Telecom Research Labs, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:23:21 GMT

tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:

>[BLAZEMONGER on a] Wristwatch? Now that would be truly innovative.

>According to Dan Ling, Microsoft's senior advanced technology researcher,
>by the year 2000, wallet-sized computers will be more powerful than today's
>desktop machines. Of course, it could be embarassing trying to find room for
>the mouse. Not to mention the monitor.

Visualise this cartoon I once saw:

A group of computer designers were huddled about their new product.

One says: ``Damn it, we've reduced the size of the keyboard, made a 4
inch flatscreen, and shrunk the CPU.  And it's still too big for
Marketing!''

Another one turns to the office dweeb who is about to rest his elbows
on a large box on the desk and shouts: ``Hey!  Don't lean on the
mouse!''

Regards,

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From: ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: The A600 uses PCMCIA, here's why...
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:47:29 GMT
Organization: Bugend BBS

easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton) writes:

> >Here in Sweden a small company called Hotline have developed a 
> >fax-modem that fits in entirely in the PCMCIA. Not bad, eh?
> 
>   Intel has announced the same thing.  They are a not-so-small company
> in the US. :-)

But the Intel modem is not *entirely* inside the PCMCIA, right?
It has a box with the line interface sitting outside.
And is Intels modem a faxmodem?

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From: peter@cbmvax.commodore.com (Peter Cherna)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy,comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.programmer,comp.sys.mac.advocacy
Subject: Re: Catching RBUTTON before Intuition
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:58:32 GMT
Reply-To: peter@cbmvax.commodore.com (Peter Cherna)
Organization: Commodore-Amiga, Inc.  West Chester, PA.

In article <1992Oct13.044619.29108@vlsi.polymtl.ca> sevigny@vlsi.polymtl.ca (Benoit Sevigny) writes:
>I am trying to implement a Workbench-like selection box (those rotating dashed
>lines you see when you select a group of icons.
>
>Using the following code, I get a deadlock if, during the selection, I hit the
>right button before I release the left button.

If you lock layers, then Intuition will have to wait for you if it
wants to bring up menus or open a window.  Thus, to avoid deadlocks,
the simple rule is never to wait for Intuition while you have layers
locked.  Also, you must restrict your actions to simple rendering
(like no calls to RefreshGList(), for example).

Now your application IS waiting for Intuition with layers locked.
You're waiting for MOUSEMOVE and MOUSEBUTTONS events, for example.

Since there are many potential sources of deadlock, it's not
sufficient to (say) simply trap menus with RMBTRAP.  The only safe way
to handle deadlock avoidance is with a "timeout daemon".  Your main
task waits simultaneously for Intuition events and for an "emergency
signal" from this daemon task.  The daemon task is a separate
free-running task that your main task signals every INTUITICK.  Its
job is to listen for these signals.  If the signals ever stop (say .5
second passes with no signal), then the daemon assumes the system has
entered a deadlock situation, and sends an "emergency signal" to the
main task.  The main task responds to the emergency signal by aborting
its operation, and unlocking the layers.

This is how Workbench solves the problem of locking the screen while
drawing the "marquee" or dragging icons.  You can see it in action by causing
a window to open while the marquee is up.  To see this, open a shell,
and type:

	wait 10 secs
	newshell

Then, during the ten seconds you have, grab an icon or drag the marquee.
When the "newshell" command wants to open the window, the system will
freeze for a second or less, before the icon-drag or marquee drag is
aborted, and the new shell opens.  If your program can't pass the same
test, it's not deadlock safe.

You may wish to ALSO use RMBTRAP if you need to hear right-mouse-button events,
but that's not enough.

>\XX/  Benoit W Sevigny, software engineering student, sevigny@info.polymtl.ca

     Peter
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From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Re: COMMODORE - HERE'S A CLUE
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date:  8 Oct 92 18:20:57 GMT

bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block) writes:

>In article <3wpzkjb@rpi.edu> danaf@rpi.edu writes:
>>Nahhhh... not for a $40 chip! (We finally got a real price...) ...and, of
>>course, a little retooling of the motherboard. 

>Is that Motorola's price, mass quantity?  You can't look into a
>magazine and get the price from Mahatma's Discount Chips, you know.  ;)

  I think I've posted this before:

  From Microprocessor Report, Vol 5 #21, November 20 1991:

"It is still much more expensive than the 68030, however, which
sells for a remarkable $40 in thousands for the 25MHz version.
Compare this to the 25MHz 386, which provides somewhat
less power for $156"

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From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: The A4000 little-review
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 01:38:10 GMT

In article <35760@cbmvax.commodore.com> grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins) writes:
>In article <1992Oct10.175812.7661@sol.cs.wmich.edu> 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin E. Black) writes:
>> david@ariane.cam.org (David Lebel) writes:
>> 
>> >In article <1992Oct2.152549.1342@msus1.msus.edu> martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU writes:
>> 
>> My only complaint is it limits your choices in monitors
>
>Huh?  It would deinterlace *everything* that the de-interlacer in the 
>A3000 does.

So I can keep my SVGA monitor that I'm using with my A3000?  I've become
fond of the steady display and don't want to use interlace for anything.

Before any of the MB type bozos and whiners  reply, I'll also state that 
any software that doesn't obey the rules will be thrown out.  If I want
to play games, I'll get a real game machine like a PC clone. 

>If you think we would build in a full 24-bit x super hi-res super 
>de-interlacer that would use ~6 times as much RAM ($$$$$) and bump the 
>retail price into another range, you're not being very realistic dude.

And I'd hope that you guys wouldn't waste your time, effort, and limited
R&D money on such a thing.  Besides, if you did de-interlace Super HiRes,
how many monitors would be able to handle such a thing?  And the aspect
ratio of that mode is even more screwed-up than regular HiRes, making it
useless for many applications.

Note:  I think that the mode will be great for looking at pictures, for
NTSC applications, and that sort of thing.  But the Workbench and most
other applications look rather stupid at that resolution.

>>Nor would it fit since it is a singular 32bit rom.
>
>Where did you get this gem of an idea?  The ROM is still 2 each 16-bit chips
>in 40 pin DIP packages.

Will the ROM work in an A3000?  I've heard that several people are using
3.0 on A3000s, some developers, some pirates.  I was under the impression
that they were using a 3.0 KickStart, but am not sure.

Do the A4000s come with a ROM based KickStart?  I'm going to be buying one
soon and would like to know for sure.  So far, both Amigas that I've owned,
an A1000 and A3000, have not had a ROM and I rather like the ability to 
easily and quickly upgrade the OS with a floppy.

>George Robbins - now working for,     work:   to be avoided at all costs...
>but no way officially representing:   uucp:   {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!grr
>Commodore, Engineering Department     domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com

Skip Sauls
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From: ecarroll@maths.tcd.ie (Eddy Carroll)
Subject: Re: Atari BLiTTER
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 17:18:54 GMT

In article <doiron.0fc3@starpt.UUCP> doiron@starpt.UUCP (Glenn Doiron) writes:
>ecarroll@maths.tcd.ie (Eddy Carroll) writes:
>> Things that I would like to see:
>
>Almost *all* this stuff you want is already there in the TI340x0 GSP's.

No kidding :-)  It's in just about every modern graphics accelerator chipset.

The difference is that the 34020 doesn't like bitplanes (you can sort of fake
them with the PMASK register, but it's not very efficient), and the 34020
is also a lot more expensive than this hypothetical improved blitter would
hopefully be.

Eddy
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