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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 08:46:52 EDT
From:         "Sara Bradley, UNA" <76507.2174@COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      OPAC Printers
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To: >INTERNET:NOTIS-L@VM.TCS.TULANE.EDU

     We will soon be purchasing new printers to be used
in the public area.  We currently use IBM Pro-Printer
II's and III's.  We are constantly experiencing
problems with these printers (mostly paper jams).  We
are open for advise on some inexpensive printers for
OPAC!  We use 3164 terminals in the public area.

Sara Bradley, Tech1                  Notis  5.0.1
University of North Alabama          CICS  1.7
205-760-4637                         GTO 3.0
CompuServe 76507,2174
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:51:48 PDT
From:         "Kathleen Matthews" <LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Billings & recalls

UVIC has not tested this. As far as we know only our term loan/fixed due
date items are implicated.
On Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:48:37 EDT Lydia Pettis said:
>Cornell would be interested in knowing if the bill/fine problems
>reported (re:credits instead of charge, recall due date problems)
>that have been reported when using TERM due dates are also occurring
>with regular due dates in 5.0.2.
>
>
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KATHLEEN WEBSTER MATTHEWS (LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA)
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UNIVERSITY OF VICTORIA, VICTORIA, B.C., CANADA.
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:26:33 CDT
From:         Karen Roughton <JL.KGR@ISUMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      Training information request

Would anyone who has done a survey assessment of staff automation
training needs please send me a copy of the survey and background
information?

Thank you

Karen Roughton (jl.kgr@isumvs)
Automation Training Librarian
33 Parks Library
Iowa State University
Ames, Iowa  50011
(515)  294-4037
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 10:33:15 CDT
From:         Notis General ID <notis@TWAIN.NOTIS.COM>
Subject:      NUGM 1992 UPDATE

DUE TO TECHNICAL PROBLEMS THIS MESSAGE NEVER REACHED NOTIS-L.

ATTENTION:  NUGM PRESENTERS & MODERATORS

Keep in mind while making your travel plans, that a pre-NUGM warm-up session
intended to help you enhance your NUGM presentations will be offered on
Thursday morning, October 8, from 9-11:30.  Help make NUGM 1992 a success
through your participation in this optional session.  (Details will follow)

Also remember that all handouts are due July 27, 1992 and should be sent to:

        Events, inc.
        916 W. Belle Plaine
        Chicago, IL  60613
        Attention:  Marla Levitt
        Phone:  312-975-3515
        Fax:    312-975-5915

Thank you all in advance for your participation in NUGM 1992.

NOTIS Systems, Inc.
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:22:00 CDT
From:         LIBRDKM@OSUCC.BITNET
Subject:      Re: lgt300p changes

We implemented the LGT300P changes last night, and so far
GTO appears to be working properly.

Dan Marmion, LIB1
Head, Library Systems
Oklahoma State University
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:59:28 CDT
From:         "AMIGOS Bibliographic Council, Inc." <AMIGOS@UTDALLAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Job announcement
Comments: To: NOTIS-L@TCSVM.BITNET, PACS-L@UHUPVM1.BITNET,
              ACRLY-JOBS@NYUACF.BITNET

This announcement has been sent to PACS-L, NOTIS-L, and ACRLY-JOBS.  Please for
give repetition.

MISC JOBS

Marketing Representative:
AMIGOS has an immediate opening for a librarian with sales experience.  This
individual will be responsible for assuring that sales goals for AMIGOS product
s and services are met through appropriate and effective promotion and related
sales activities.

QUALIFICATIONS:
An ALA-accredited MLS, with undergraduate degree in business or marketing prefe
rred.  Two years of progressively responsible professional level experience
(sales experience preferred).   Bachelors degree in marketing, sales or related
speciality may be substituted for one year of experience.  Background to includ
e knowledge of and experience with one or more of the following:  OCLC systems
and products, Local library automation systems, Library bibliographic database
creation/maintenance.  Demonstrated oral and written communication skills; stro
ng interpersonal and presentation skills; ability to establish and maintain exc
ellent realtions with clients, members and AMIGOS staff members, and to work in
dependently as well as function as team player.  Must be able to travel.

MINIMUM FOR POSITION:
Low 30's dependion on experience and background.  Send letter of application an
d resume to:
AMIGOS Bibliographic Council, Inc., 12200 Park Central Drive, Suite 500, Dallas
, Texas 75251
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:41:58 PDT
From:         "Kathleen Matthews" <LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Chat: Enhancements

I vote for a year long moratorium for "repairs".....this would also give our
site a chance to stabilize our procedures in house.....Great idea! Brave man!
to Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:19:29 EDT James A. Cobbs said:
>    I almost thing a year long moritorium on 'enhancements' might be
>the best enhancement.  Let the elves at NSI catch up on what they have
>and fix all the enhancements they have already installed.
>
>Jim Cobbs - TECH1                           "Money is always
>Washington Research Library Consortium       there, but the
>4207 Forbes Blvd.   Bitnet: JAC@WRLCVM       pockets change."
>Lanham, MD 20706        (301) 731-1000         -Gertrude Stein

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KATHLEEN WEBSTER MATTHEWS (LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA)
Systems Librarian, McPherson Library
UNIVERSITY OF VICTORIA, VICTORIA, B.C., CANADA.
(604) 721-8219
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Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:29:30 EDT
From:         "Albert C. Liu" <ACL100F@ODUVM.BITNET>

I assume your library is very rich.  I suggest a backup on CD ROM
terminals.       albert Liu
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:43:04 PDT
From:         "Kathleen Matthews" <LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA>
Subject:      Re: Chat: Enhancements

Surely the maintenance fee we pay entitles us to a product that the
vendor has the competence to maintain no matter how complicated the code or
how sophisticated and interdependant the functionality.  Is NOTIS
prepared to admit that they are not sufficently competent to maintain their own
products?  Enhancements that we identify improve the marketablity of their
product and should not compromise functionality current clients depend upon.
  NOTIS has a good deal with all the users who, for no fee, help
NOTIS identify areas to improve functionality.  The least NOTIS can do in
return is maintain their products for their hard working, paying "partners".
Try to put a price tag on the research and design work the CIRC SIG is
doing ??????

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KATHLEEN WEBSTER MATTHEWS (LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA)
Systems Librarian, McPherson Library
UNIVERSITY OF VICTORIA, VICTORIA, B.C., CANADA.
(604) 721-8219
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:00:53 CST
From:         "Michael J. Stephens" <VB7R0007@SMUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Chat: Enhancements

What we are really faced with each time we get a new release, even a "fix-
it" release, is that each change from the previous release increases the
probability that a new bug is introduced.  Sometimes that new bug is a
result of incompleate analysis of the effects of introducing an enhancement.
That is, you change A to allow it to do X and you change B, C, and E to
acommodate the change in A.  All of a sudden you discover that D and F no
longer work right.  In another instance you try to fix B and suddenly A
doesn't do X anymore.  Such interdependancies surface with greater regularity
and devestation the more complex and "integrated" the system is.  For years
the answer to this problem was top down, structured design and programming,
such as what C is supposed to provide.  More recently, Object Oriented
Programming Systems (OOPS) have been introduced to help this (C++).  Any
system programmed in assembler is going to have a tough time of after several
generations of maintenance.  Oh darn, I've got to cut this short and go to
a meeting.  Some of you are sighing with relief, I'll bet


Michael J. Stephens, Tech1
Sr. Systems Analyst II           *  Phone:    (214) 692-3453
Computer & Information Services  *  FAX:      (214) 692-3449
Southern Methodist University    *  Bitnet:   vb7r0007@smuvm1
Dallas, Tx. 75275-0262           *  Internet: vb7r0007@vm.cis.smu.edu
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Date:         Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:16:00 EDT
From:         Carol Caro / Boston College <CAROC@BCVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Enhancement Process - Clarification Requested

I can only speak for the OPAC Sig...I have put the enhancement suggestions on
Notis-l for all to see.  I have also sent a paper ballot to the Lib 1 at each
site.  Only 1 ballot from each site is accepted.  Some sites do not have
access to either bitnet or internet so the reason for the paper ballot.

You should carefully read the instructions for ranking or voting from each SIG.
Our library gathered to vote on the Serial enhancements today...the ranking
method for this ballot was 10 was the most desired...not 1.  READ CAREFULLY.

Carol Caro
O'Neill Library            VOICE: 617-552-3155
Boston College             EMAIL: CAROC@BCVMS
Chestnut Hill, MA 02167    FAX: 617-552-8828
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 12:33:58 LCL
From:         Bob Jones <BJONES@UNF1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Resolved: NOTIS via INTERNET

Thanks for the responses!  I just received word from twain.notis.com
that my re-sent message has been delivered.

Apparently the twain.notis.com mail server is case sensitive, and the
notis userid MUST be in lower case.  I use RiceMail and use the CMS
NAMES file extensively.  I had to force the names file to leave the
userid in lower case.  So, update your records and tuck this tidbit
away: NOTIS, INC.  can be reached at

notis@twain.notis.com     -or-   notis@TWAIN.NOTIS.COM
The 'notis' userid must be in lower case.

Some of you also suggested that if your NAMES file gives you problems,
try addressing mail manually, varying the capitalization.
Thanks again for the helpful responses.

Bob Jones, UNF Library
Jacksonville, Florida
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Date:         Wed, 22 Jul 1992 10:17:51 PDT
From:         "Kathleen Matthews" <LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA>
Subject:      Re: usage stats for inhouse periodical use

Than you Judith for the description of your journal stats collection project.

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KATHLEEN WEBSTER MATTHEWS (LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA)
Systems Librarian, McPherson Library
UNIVERSITY OF VICTORIA, VICTORIA, B.C., CANADA.
(604) 721-8219
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:09:36 CDT
From:         Nancy John <U31452@UICVM.BITNET>
Subject:      call number printing and the NOTIS call number index

This is to all the sites which are able to successfully print NOTIS
call numbers AND like the way your call number index works.

After what seems like hundreds of days if not years, our spine
label printer is working from a technical (i.e. it prints labels
in the correct place on the tape) standpoint. Now we are
trying to conquer the part where the call number label looks
like what our users and staff are used to. The problem:
to get the class to print on a line by itself, to get decimals
to print properly,  and to keep the index in some semblance of correct order.
It seems like we'll have to edit every call number to get it       [B
right. Can this be so?

I'm hoping that there's an easy answer, one that Paige would tell me
about if she weren't on leave with her new baby.  Thanks for any help.

Temporarily the lib1 and having forgot all I know aobut NOTIS,
Nancy
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:07:22 EST
From:         Tom Norman <normant@GVSU.EDU>
Subject:      Global Heading Changes
Comments: To: notis-l@vm.tcs.tulane.edu

          In the hopes of saving someone hours of headaches (not to
          mention useless output) -- the UPSI switch settings for job
          LB890J (Global Change Processing) do NOT work as docuemnted.

          We tried running the job with the UPSI settings as
          '11100010'.  The job processed (with all condition codes
          equal to zero).  However, no records (bib or authority) were
          actually updated.

          After long session on the phone with NOTIS (and a 32 page
          fax) we found that the switches were not functioniong as
          documented.  Per NOTIS we processed the job with the
          settings equal to '11000000'.  The job went to good EOJ, and
          all records (bib and authority) were updated accordingly.

          Tom Norman
          Grand Valley State University
          Allendale, MI

          Internet:      normant@gvsu.edu
          Voice:         (616) 895-2289
          Fax:           (616) 895-3889
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Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:46:53 CDT
From:         Gary <GSTRAWN@NUACVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 4XX REFS. ARE FIXED!!!!

Oh my! Shall I have a bust in the National Cathedral, or a stained glass
window? ;-)

Gary L. Strawn
Authorities Librarian, etc., Northwestern University Libraries
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:15:05 CDT
From:         Barbara <BAUGHMAN@UTDALLAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: PPQ5555:no fix for recall fine problem
              27 Jul 1992 11:31:26 PDT from <LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA>

I would like someone from NSI to respond officially to the note from
Kathleen Matthews.  The 5.0.2 circulation module is full of things that
don't work any more.  I has been my impression also that NSI does not
intend to provide any support for the circulation module (or very
little support) because of the 5.2 rewrite.  I, too, am incredulous at
this stand.  Does NSI truly expect its customers to go from a working
circulation module to a non-working circulation module and stay there
for years until they can release a 'rewrite'?  And what new problems
will the rewrite introduce?

To make things worse, the things that are wrong with the circulation
module all seem to be high-profile mistakes that make our own customers
scream.  The due dates are sometimes wrong, the fines are not calculated
properly, overdue notices and bills are not sent out as advertised.  We
are pulling our hair out.  If NSI can't get us a working version of the
circulation module with 5.1 (or 5.1.1), then I don't want anything to
do with 5.2.

The cause of our problems is not the programming or system design staff.
It doesn't bother me at all that they make some mistakes.  Thats life in
computerland.  The problem is a policy that states that once a release is
out the door, there will be no fixes to that release unless NSI thinks it's
serious enough.  This is especially true of modules that are targetted for
a rewrite.  With this philosophy, NSI customers will NEVER have a release
that really works like it's supposed to.  It's always going to be in the next
release or the next rewrite.  In a way, I see their logic in holding to this
philosophy.  It isn't an arbitrary decision and was made with the sincere
belief that this policy would best serve their customers.  I just don't
agree with it.

So how about it NSI?  What's the official word on fixes for the circulation
module?

Barbara Baughman
TECH1
University of Texas at Dallas
(214) 690-2157
BAUGHMAN@UTDALLAS.BITNET
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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:32:17 CDT
From:         Notis General ID <notis@TWAIN.NOTIS.COM>
Subject:      OCLC IMPLEMENTATION OF US MARC UPDATE #4

THIS IS AN OFFICIAL NOTIS COMMUNICATION

The following changes need to be made to LGT300P to allow the NOTIS GTO
software to handle OCLC's implementation of the update 4 of the US MARC
format for bibliographic data.


Under the label BIBPTBL, after the 'DC  CL3'001',CL3'001',CL2' ',A(STDNUM)

insert the following 'DC  CL3'003',CL3'003',CL2' ',A'DELFLD' to handle
bibliographic records.  Make the same change under label AUTPTBL to handle
authority records.

If you have any questions or concerns please feel free to contact Customer
Support Services at 708-866-1100.

Cheryl Wallace
Support Center Administrator
Customer Support Services
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Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 09:54:23 EDT
From:         Lee Radigan <LIBLJR@SUVM.SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Archives in Sender Order

Irene -

Which archive were you searching?  I just did a search against the
Syracuse archive and my results were in reverse date order (newest
first).  You can sort any search result from the Syracuse archive
by entering SORT on the command line after you get the result, and
then following the instructions on the subsequent screens.

If you have any further questions, feel free to call.

Lee Radigan, LIB1            |
Syracuse University Library  |      "It is better to know some of
LIBLJR@SUVM                  |       the questions than all of the
libljr@suvm.acs.syr.edu      |       answers."
(315) 443-9507  (voice)      |
(315) 443-9510  (fax)        |                    --  James Thurber
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Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:29:24 CDT
From:         Barbara <BAUGHMAN@UTDALLAS.BITNET>
Subject:      Circ enhancement

I have made an 'enhancement' to one of the NOTIS circ programs to handle
the following 'situation'.

When the patron ID expiration date is before the due date and the RIDV
flag is set, the due date is reset to the patron ID expiration date.
However, the date for the first overdue notice is set based on the
original due date from the circulation policy instead of the date
that is overridden by the patron ID expiration date.  This causes
overdue notices and bills to be issued off-schedule.

I am not an assembler programmer, so I've been wading through 600 pages
of assembler code trying to figure out what to do and where to do it.
(For some strange reason, NSI doesn't want to do this).
The program first gets the due dates from the circulation policy (or
default circulation policy) and calculates a due date and date for the
overdue notice.  It then allows the due date to be overridden if it was
the default circ policy or if the patron ID expires before the due date.
However, it never recalculates the date for the overdue notice.  I know
where to put the recalculation for the patron ID expiration override,
but I still can't figure out where the code is that picks up the new
due date from the default circulation policy override. (This is what
eventually causes the ITEM NOT YET DUE error messages in LB610.)

If anyone is interested in the enhancement or would like to help me pick
up from where I got stuck on the override date (preferably someone who
knows assembler), please contact me.  Please note that adding such an
enhancement would cause you to lose NSI support for your program. ;-)

Barbara Baughman                       *********************************
TECH1                                  *                               *
University of Texas at Dallas          *   First right, then rewrite!  *
(214) 690-2157                         *                               *
BAUGHMAN@UTDALLAS.BITNET               *********************************
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Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:11:51 PDT
From:         "Kathleen Matthews" <LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA>
Subject:      Re: New Circ Notice Problem

Does this mean that the patrons are not blocked until the
overdue notice is produced?????

On Mon, 27 Jul 1992 09:50:46 EDT <PSAU@VM2.YORKU.CA> said:
>Yes, we have the exact same problem at York University and our tracking
>number is PPQ7472.
>
>>An item was charged on June 23 by a patron whose id expired oJune 26, so a due
>>date of June 26 was generated.  So far so good.  The first overdue notice was
>>generated on July 21 as if the patron had the full 14 day loan and then adding
>>the 14 days we normally wait before printing our first notice.  I think the
>>notice should have been generated 14 days after June 26.  Is this a problem?
>>Does any one else have this problem?  Is there a problem tracking number?
>>IRENE PELAK  TECH1  BERGEN COMMUNITY COLLEGE  201-447-9236
>
>Pak Sau
>Library Computing Services
>York University, Toronto, Canada
>Environment: MVS/XA, LMS 5.0.2, NOTISearch 1.0.1.
>             (LMS 5.1 and MDAS 1.3 in test region).

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KATHLEEN WEBSTER MATTHEWS (LSYS1@UVVM.UVIC.CA)
Systems Librarian, McPherson Library
UNIVERSITY OF VICTORIA, VICTORIA, B.C., CANADA.
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