HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jag@decvax.DEC.COM (John A. Gallant UEG)
Subject: Re: SCSI/CAM problems
Reply-To: jag@zk3.dec.com
Organization: OSF Engineering, Digital Equipment Corp.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:12:48 GMT

In article <Bu862I.Dq@ie.utoronto.ca>, andy@ie.utoronto.ca (Andy Sun) writes:
>john@iastate.edu (John Hascall) writes:

>>What happens is we start getting *tons* of:
>>   XPT Packet Pool HIGH Water Mark Reached.
>>   cam_logger: CAM_ERROR packet
>>   cam_logger: No associated bus target lun
>>messages on the console and also (in the two times I have seen it happen)
>>the dreaded "cant get mbufs" message also appears.  It seems to be somehow
>>related to uptime (memory leak?) and load (so, of course, today, with a
>>machine which hung last night and being the Friday before a long weekend,
>>we had neither and I couldn't reproduce it for DEC *sigh*).
>
>I am afraid that the same thing happens to us (a DECsystem 5000/200
>recently upgraded to 4.2a with SCSI/CAM). Similar messages appear in the
>error log (viewed through uerf). ......................................

    How similar ?, are they High / Low or both water marks ?  Please try
the /usr/etc/cam_report program.  The uerf utility is not able to decode
all of the CAM error log information.  We had to provide a second log
decoder that provides more than a person could dream of.

>................................ Even more horrible, our machine hung up
>on us twice so far (i.e. no response, not even from console). I attempted
>a core trace without any luck. It seems to be related to our USENET news
>activities, when there were lots of read/write to an RZ58 partition.

     Try increasing the pool size ?   What does the vmstat -K on the 
cores look like ?  A large buffer cache in the file system code can 
result in a big "spike" in disk I/O when a flush occurs.

>>I was told that backing out of SCSI/CAM was NOT as simple as
>>just "setld -d ..."  If we can't get a fix by next week we are
>>resigned to going backwards to 4.2a.
>
>OH MY GOD!! (fainted...)

    No No No (waving ammonia salts ...), only for the CAMBASE* subset is
there a problem.  For the kernel, a delete and a rebuild is all that is
needed.

-- 
John A. Gallant                                jag@zk3.dec.com
Software Engineer - OSF Engineering Group
Digital Equipment Corp. (603) 881-2472

        In the common people there is no wisdom, no penetration, no
        power of judgment.
    Marcus Cicero
From: sowa@amdew.llnl.gov (Erik C. Sowa)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: ds5000 cache parity error
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:16:52 GMT
Organization: LLNL Chemistry and Materials Science


Shortly after upgrading from ultrix 4.2 to 4.2c (via a and b), my
decstation 5000/200 started logging the following "informational" error
message rather frequently. What's going on? Should I be worried?


----- EVENT INFORMATION -----

EVENT CLASS                             OPERATIONAL EVENT 
OS EVENT TYPE                  250.     ASCII MSG 
SEQUENCE NUMBER                 36.
OPERATING SYSTEM                        ULTRIX 32 
OCCURRED/LOGGED ON                      Fri Sep 11 13:51:28 1992 PDT
OCCURRED ON SYSTEM                      amdew.llnl.g 
SYSTEM ID                 x82020220     HW REV: x20
                                        FW REV: x2
                                        CPU TYPE: R2000A/R3000 
PROCESSOR TYPE                          KN02/R3000 
MESSAGE                                 Cache parity error count for cpu 0 is 
                                         _57 

============
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: schuster@isa.de (Thilo Schuster)
Subject: Problems with DecNet Phase V on Ultrix 4.2
Organization: ISA GmbH, Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:22:09 GMT



Hello Netlanders,

I've got some trouble with the DecNet/Ultrix package on a DEC Station
5000/133 running Ultrix 4.2a.

My configuration:

Computer 1: 	    	    	Computer 2:

Dec Station 5000/133 	    	VMS Vax
Decnet Phase V Node 	    	Phase IV Node (no, without Extension)
DNS Server, DTS clerk	    	
proxys disabled

It is possible, to connect from the DEC Station to the VMS Vax, but
on the Vax (after an SET HOST), following Error appears:
network partner exited

So I tried the loopback application on the Phase V node. Following
syslog-entry was created by the system:

Sep 15 16:29:32 localhost: 1628 cml: loopback: connect to mirror failed:
Timed out

Furthermore, for each connection attemp, this process is started and
hangs in the system:

 1630 ?  S      0:00 /usr/etc/dnascd -fsyncdb
                                     ^^^^^^^^
                                     What does this option mean ?


Anybody out there, who could help me ?

Thx in advance, 

greets,

    	    	Thilo
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Subject: Re: video board for DECstation
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 02:08:52 GMT

|> I'm looking for info on what video boards are available for DECstations.
|> know of any?

DEC sells a TX/PIP board that allows you to display video (e.g., from a
VCR, video camera, or laser disk player) on a portion of you screen.
The X Window System server that comes with the TX/PIP fully supports
putting this video in an X window, including dragging it around and
clipping it.

The XMedia layered product includes a full development environment for
programming the TX board and audio hardware.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: ian@uws.EDU.AU (Ian Walsh)
Subject: Anyone using lprps on Ultrix 4.2 with banner printing?
Summary: I am trying to get lprps working with banner printing.
Keywords: lprps banner
Organization: University of Western Sydney
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 02:05:55 GMT

I have been trying to get lprps to work successfully with banner
printing. At present if I try to get the banner page to work
I get the banner page of a lot of jobs and some job bodies but
not many.

When I don't use banner printing we are having problems as well.
Accounting seems OK.

Is anyone using lprps under Ultrix 4.2 successfully?

Thanks

Ian Walsh (I.Walsh@st.nepean.uws.edu.au)
From: hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: rlogin from Ultrix to Sparc/SunOs hangs?
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:23:37 GMT
Organization: Information Services, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA

I wrote:
> When I try /usr/ucb/rlogin from an Ultrix machine to any Sparc, rlogin just
> hangs.

I got lots of replies via email.  Thanks to all who replied.  To summarize,
it's a known bug.  The solution is to get a patch from DEC for rlogin, or
install the BSD4.3 rlogin.

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From: jsw@umiacs.umd.edu (Jeff Webber)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: Ultrix 4.2 rlogin somewhat broken
Date: 14 Sep 92 01:54:38 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

In article <1992Sep12.070314.23900@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu (Chris Siebenmann) writes:
>! $ stty all
>! new tty, speed 9600 baud , 32 rows, 83 columns; tabs
>[...]
>! $ /usr/ucb/rlogin `hostname`
>[..login chatter deleted deleted..]
>! : hawkwind.utcs ; stty all
>! new tty, speed 9600 baud , 0 rows, 0 columns; tabs
>[...]
>
> So much for window size information being propagated around.

I have been investigating this problem.  Its related to the bug
that causes rlogin to hang when going from an Ultrix machine
to a fast sparc.  Its due to a kernel bug in the OOB handling
stuff in the socket code (soreceive()).

The problem of rlogin hanging is caused by Ultrix sending
rlogin a SIGURG and then not delivering the OOB packet.  The
rlogin program just eats everything coming across the connection
waiting for a MSG_OOB packet that never arrives.

The problem is intermittant (race condition or some such) and
is less severe under 4.2a then 4.2.  It however still occurs
even under 4.2a.

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Xref: sparky comp.unix.ultrix:6808 comp.windows.x:16443
From: ward@math.psu.edu (Brian Ward)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: help - DEC.5000 / twm / .X11Startup
Date: 10 Sep 92 04:35:17 GMT
Organization: The Bill and Ted Society of Computer Science

nagrwb@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
|On logging in to a DECStation5000/200 I have sitting at my desk at
|the moment I would like to automatically:
|  kill the DecWindow Manager
|  use twm
|  set a few friendly X clients
|  start-up epoch (which resides on another host) in an iconified state
|  have the DEC Session Manager and DECterm console window iconified

hahaha. Here's how i got around it:

1. I set my window manager for sm to /bin/true.
2. I got rid of the initial DECterm.
3. I put everything in my .X11Startup file, almost like a .Xsession
   file, including the window manager.
4. I put StartIconified { "sm" } in my .twmrc. This will cause some problems
   when you have windows that have names starting with "sm" in some cases.

Anyway, here are the relevant X resources (in my .Xdefaults file. ugh)

*terminalEmulatorName:	/bin/true
sm.windowManagerName:	/bin/true

also 

sm.display_pattern:	none

but i'm not sure if that is the right way to do that or not.

and my .X11Startup looks like this:

xset fp+ (our X11R5 fonts - it's big)
xset fp rehash
xmodmap $HOME/.Xmodmap-dec
vtwm &
xv -quit -root -rmode 5 $HOME/iff/bill+ted.gif &

which I admit, is kind of hokey. you could possibly end with

twm
kill `some ugly thing to get the sm pid`

to quit with twm.
From: hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: kernel configuration recommendations?
Date: 14 Sep 92 15:33:10 GMT
Organization: Information Services, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA

rick@qucdnee.ee.queensu.ca writes:
> if there's any general advice to be had i'd appreciate it a lot.

I've heard some folks say that enabling cache_bufcache in
/usr/sys/conf/mips/param.c is an easy win:

> int     cache_bufcache = 1;

I've had this kernel running on our DEC 5000/200, Ultrix 4.2a systems for a
month now.  However, don't blame me if this crashes your system. :-)

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From: kenh@leps5.phys.psu.edu (Ken Hornstein)
Subject: Re: help - DEC.5000 / twm / .X11Startup
Organization: Penn State, Laboratory for Elementary Particle Science
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:32:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.100340.4652@fys.ruu.nl> hooft@fys.ruu.nl (Rob Hooft) writes:
>
>Is there any way to avoid starting the session manager at all? I
>recently installed the Motif package on our cluster, and on 16Mb
>stations the combination of xconsole and xsession is a real memory
>problem. By using vtwm instead of mwm, xclock instead of dxclock, and
>xcalc instead of dxcalc, and by killing the xconsole at startup the
>system is workable, but I would really like to get rid of the session
>manager too (It eats about 1600kB).

You can always set the :0 entry in /etc/ttys to "off", turn the getty
for the console on, and have your users login and run "xinit" from the console
in glass mode (too bad the console is a line terminal only ... way to go DEC).
Or, you could run xdm instead of that bizarre DECWindows login prompter.

--Ken
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: lloyd@jeeves.engr.mun.ca (Lloyd Little)
Subject: Re: Problems with printing over lat
Keywords: printing, lat
Reply-To: lloyd@jeeves.engr.mun.ca
Organization: C-CAE, Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:23:27 GMT

rob@mother.bates.edu (Rob Spellman) writes:

>I have been trying to setup a print service over lat.  I can print
>fine for a while, and then I get errors in /usr/adm/lpd3-err.  The error is:

>/usr/lib/lpd: test: cannot open /dev/tty17: Can't assign requested address

># @(#)printcap	4.1 (ULTRIX) 7/2/90
>lp3|3|test:\
>	:af=/usr/adm/lp3acct:\
>	:ct=lat:\
>	:lf=/usr/adm/lpd3-err:\
>	:lp=/dev/tty17:\
>	:of=/usr/lib/lpdfilters/ds400-ascii:\
>	:op=PORT_40:\
>	:os=:\
>	:pl#24:\
>	:pw#80:\
>	:sd=/usr/spool/lpd3:\
>	:ts=ELG_EQUINOX:

>and the entry from rc.local:

>[ -f /usr/etc/lcp ] && {
>	/usr/etc/lcp -s \
>		-h /dev/tty17 \
>		& echo -n ' LAT'			>/dev/console
>}
>-- 
>Rob Spellman

I had problems with LAT printing as well. Assigning the port to the server at
LAT startup time fixed the problem. In your case, the rc.local should contain

/usr/etc/lcp -s -h /dev/tty17:ELG_EQUINOX:PORT_40

and remove the op,os,ts,ct entries from printcap.
Hope this works! (it did for me.... :-)
Lloyd 
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From: blk@physik.tu-chemnitz.de (Peter Blaudeck)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Printing via Terminal-Server does not work.
Keywords: printer
Date: 7 Sep 92 14:09:01 GMT
Organization: University of Technology Chemnitz, FRG


I have installed a Printer at  "Port_2"  of the server "server2".

The printcap entry is

lp4|4:\
	:af=/usr/adm/lp4acct:\
	:br#9600:\
	:ct=lat:\
	:fc#0177777:\
	:fs#03:\
	:if=/usr/lib/lpdfilters/lj250of:\
	:lf=/usr/adm/lp4err:\
	:lp=/dev/tty10:\
	:mc#20:\
	:mx#0:\
	:op=Port_2:\
	:os=lj250:\
	:pl#66:\
	:pw#80:\
	:rw:\
	:sd=/usr/spool/lpd4:\
	:sh:\
	:ts=server2:\
	:uv=4.0:\
	:xc#0177777:\
	:xf=/usr/lib/lpdfilters/xf:\
	:xs#044000:

the line in the ttys file

tty10	"/etc/getty std.9600" vt100	off nomodem	# lat

the hosts entry with the correct IP-address exists.
I have executed "/etc/lcp -s -h /dev/tty10:server2:Port_2"
but if I try "lpr -Plp4 filename"
I get in /usr/adm/lp4err:

/usr/lib/lpd: lp4: cannot open /dev/tty10: Can't assign requested address

What is wrong ?  Many thanks in advance.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: se@IKP.Uni-Koeln.DE (Stefan Esser)
Subject: Re: Ultrix 4.2 rlogin somewhat broken
Organization: Institute of Nuclear Physics, University of Cologne, Germany
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 20:33:54 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.072449.21372@alcatel.ch>, vannes@srzts304.alcatel.ch (Tom van Nes) writes:
|> Why recompile the kernel? get BSD rlogin source. I managed to
|> port rlogin. The rlogin works fine if you are root, but if you
|> are a normal user you get the message:
|>    socket: permission denied
|> After a days work i finally opened a call to DEC to see what
|> they're gonna say..

I'd expect them to tell you, that rlogin needs to be suid root ...

STefan
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From: rsj@seuss.aa.ox.com (Rick Jaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: color and monochrome in the same system
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:43:12 GMT
Organization: OTA Limited Partnership -- Ann Arbor, MI
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: seuss.aa.ox.com


Older DEC literature says that we cannot mix color and monochrome in
the same multiple-headed DECstation.  

We've recently heard differently, that a DECstation with two HX cards
can simultaneously run a greyscale and a color monitor.

If it's possible to mix color and monochrome in the same DECstation,
what are the supported configurations?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: leb@Hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov (Lee E. Brotzman)
Subject: Need a printcap file for HPIII w/ Postscript cartridge
Keywords: printcap, Hewlett Packard III, postscript
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:19:33 GMT

Howdy,

I have a new DECstation running Ultrix 4.2A and I'm having trouble getting my
printer to work.  I have a Hewlett Packard Laserjet III with the HP Laserjet 
Postscript cartridge which was previously connected to my IBM PC.  

I need a suitable printcap entry for connecting this puppy up to the
DECstation.  If I use the "default" postscript specifications as given in
Volume I of the documentation, and print a file, the front panel on the printer
flashes the message "PROCESSING DATA" for a few minutes and then it says
"POSTSCRIPT READY" without printing anything.  This symptom usually indicates
that the printer is not getting postscript input, but rather straight text.

The current printcat settings I'm using are:

lp|lp0|0|lp:\
	:af=/usr/adm/lpacct:\
	:br#9600:\
	:ct=dev:\
	:lf=/usr/adm/lperr:\
	:lp=/dev/tty00:\
	:sd=/usr/spool/lpd:\
	:Da=postscript:\
	:Dl=/usr/lib/lpdfilters/lps_v3.a:\
	:Lf=/usr/lib/lpdfilters/layup:\
	:Or=portrait:\
	:Xf=xlator_call:

Any help would be appreciated, by E-mail preferably.  Thanks.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: mwm problems
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:23:20 GMT

rouilj@dl5000.bc.edu (John P. Rouillard) writes:


>Just make sure that your users don't click IN any DECterm. I woudl
>guess that this goes for any DEC X application as well, athough I am
>not sure.

>This same problem occurs with twm, and tvtwm. The DECterm application
>is set up to grab focus by themselves if the window is clicked in (I
>am not sure exactly how they do it), and the upshot of it is that they
>grab the focus out from under the window manager leaving the window
>manager quite confused.

>The window manager really thinks that it is changing the focus to
>follow its policy, but it isn't really As you noted clicking in the
>new window (or using f.unfocus in twm*) will cause the focus to become
>normal (follow pointer) again. This is really annoying, I keep trying
>to get my users to use xterms that don't have this "feature".

>-- John


I am running many "dx" applications and do not have this problem with any
of them... using 4.2a and Motif 1.1.3.


Perhaps you have a resource problem.


Charlie
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai)
Subject: rlogin from Ultrix to Sparc/SunOs hangs?
Organization: Information Services, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:15:59 GMT

DEC 5000/200 running Ultrix 4.2A.
Sun ELC, IPC, Sparcstation II, all running SunOS 4.1.2.

This was asked before on comp.unix.ultrix but I forgot to save the
articles.  I apologize.

When I try /usr/ucb/rlogin from an Ultrix machine to any Sparc, rlogin just
hangs.  However, I have no problems going from Sparc to Ultrix, Ultrix to
Ultrix, nor any problems going from Ultrix to a Sun-3 running SunOS 4.1.1_U1
and vice versa.

What am I doing wrong?  Is there a fix (other than using telnet)?

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From: rohit@NeoSoft.com (Rohit Mehrotra)
Subject: Re: CRISP for ULTRIX
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:21:28 GMT

In article <4917@daily-planet.concordia.ca> david@donald.concordia.ca (David Gaudine) writes:
>
>Does anyone have the CRISP editor working on ULTRIX?  We've had problems
>implementing it (version 2.2e).  The current problem is that it won't
>accept input from the keyboard.

This problem is a known bug and will never be fixed in the shareware version
as CRISP is now a commercial product with a multitude of new features, 
bug-fixes and a full blown X implementation. 

>We're trying to find a UNIX editor that's as convenient to use as BRIEF
>(a PC editor).  One of the problems with EMACS is that one can't
>conveniently cycle through a lot of files.

The answer to this question is ironically still CRISP. IMHO the new CRISP
has left BRIEF way and far behind in terms of features as well as user
interface. I am not sure if there is anything out there which even comes
close.

Additional information in reference to CRISP can be obtained from:

		owner-crisp-list@uunet.uu.net
		or
		owner-xcrisp-list@uunet.uu.net
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From: rouilj@dl5000.bc.edu (John P. Rouillard)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
Subject: Re: mwm problems
Date: 7 Sep 92 20:24:50 GMT
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College


Just make sure that your users don't click IN any DECterm. I woudl
guess that this goes for any DEC X application as well, athough I am
not sure.

This same problem occurs with twm, and tvtwm. The DECterm application
is set up to grab focus by themselves if the window is clicked in (I
am not sure exactly how they do it), and the upshot of it is that they
grab the focus out from under the window manager leaving the window
manager quite confused.

The window manager really thinks that it is changing the focus to
follow its policy, but it isn't really As you noted clicking in the
new window (or using f.unfocus in twm*) will cause the focus to become
normal (follow pointer) again. This is really annoying, I keep trying
to get my users to use xterms that don't have this "feature".

-- John
Newsgroups: comp.unix.ultrix
From: hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai)
Subject: Re: nfs mount options
Organization: Information Services, Swarthmore College, Swarthmore, PA, USA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 17:34:07 GMT

chan@holo.iitsg.nrc.ca (Les Chan) writes:
> Some questions on the NFS mount (Ultrix 4.1) which are not
> in the man pages.

Hmm, my man page has it, when I do "man 8nfs mount".

> What are the default option values for things such as timeo,
> retrans, etc.

From the man page:

>     -o options  Specifies options as a sequence of words, separated by com-
>                 mas, from the list that follows. The default options are as
>                 follows:
>
>                 rw,hard,intr,retry=10,000,timeo=11,retrans=4, \
>                 port=NFS_PORT,pgthresh=64
>                 Defaults for rsize and wsize are set by the kernel.

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