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From: cook@shaman.nexagen.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Grimjack
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:43:08 -0700
Organization: NeXagen.com
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lecuyer@wam.umd.edu (Catherine L. LeCuyer) writes:


>In article <1993Jan23.044357.119786@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> ryk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (RAJAN YASH KHANNA) writes:
>>
>>        Does anyone else out there share my fanaticism about Grimjack or even
>>        like him ? And does anyone know if anything might reappear ? Recently
>>
>I read all the Grimjacks with John Gaunt, but about the time he died I needed
>to cut back on my buying so that title went. I really liked the title though.
>The whole idea of what Cynosure was and the varying realties was facinating
>and lots of fun. The Possibilities Are Endless. (no not THOSE Endless)
>Does anyone know if they ever came up with a RPG for this world(s).

Actually, there was going to be a Grimjack RPG. When I worked in the offices of
Iron Crown Enterprises (an RPG company for those non-gamers), they had 
contacted us about publishing the game. I was even going to be the editor. But
alas, when First died, so did the Grimjack game.

I was majorly bummed, since I was a big fan. It gave me a great excuse to read
through the whole series (which I'm lucy enogh to have) again, though. I still
work for ICE as a freelancer, and if ever the chance comes along again to do 
the game, I hope that I can help write/edit it!

Monte Cook cook@shaman.nexagen.com

>>"No Tourbot's Allowed" - Munden's Bar        RYK,  your friendly Cynosure
>>                                                   Tour Guide

>Have the "Munden's Bar" stories ever been collected? They should be.
>Anyone out there listening? Who do we write?

>Cathy the .sigless

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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 15:07:36 -0500 
From: Eric Thomas Pronko <punisher+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: comic gifs requested

good suggestion...and if it does happen please mention it here because
i no longer read a.b.p.* and most of the likely audience would be here
anyway...

thanks
eric

"hey, i didn't order any tax!"  -me
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Sandman -- Brief Lives 7
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 19:45:50 GMT

In article <IfN89P600UzxE8h9pP@andrew.cmu.edu>, "Pamela J. Bernhardt" <pb2i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> 
> 1) Didn't Dream kill off destruction in A Dolls House?  He unmade the
> guy!

You meant "The Corinthian" up there, didn't you?

> And even if he remade him, I don't think that he'd be fool enough
> to make him that horrible. 

What I recall is that Dream was dissapointed because the Corinthian
wasn't "bad" enough.  If anything, he'll make him *worse* this time.

> 2) Why didn't Delirium go and ask Orpheus?  She is his aunt, and it
> would have saved Dream from doing it.  

I don't think she could collect her wits for that long.
And besides, what makes you think that Orpheus would help her?
No, it would have to be Dream, so Orpheus could ask his boon.

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From: frosty@world.std.com (Robert J Nunez)
Subject: Lone Wolf & Cub fate
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:58:16 GMT

I am a fan of LW&C and am sad that no futher issues have been released. 
Does anyone know if another company might pick up where First Publishing
left off? 
Does anyone know if any movies or TV series based on LW&C can be obtain
for home video or otherwise (and how to obtain them)?

Robert Nunez
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From: silbrmnd@acf3.nyu.edu (Darkmage)
Subject: Re: Hellblazer #63
Organization: New York University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:57:31 GMT

blr3r@Virginia.EDU (Brian L. Rust) writes:


>	While I agree that Ennis is inserting his own political
>views into the series, I took the Thatcher reference to be just a
>nod to her "Demon Yuppie" supporters, from all the way back in
>issue #4 (I think...it might have been 3 or 5).  That's where
>"Hellblazer" began to have a distinct political slant, and I
>dont think Ennis is doing much more than continuing the
>tradition.


>	Anyways, (minute spoiler)
















>that one panel with     "Mr S. Thing
>			 The Swamp"
>made me laugh harder than I have in weeks...

Yeah, I thought it was cool, too.  (But why the spoiler alert?  *8-)

		-Darkmage
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From: mgq@inel.gov (Michael G McKellar)
Subject: Re: Cages: Information Please
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 15:17:07 GMT

In article <C1HwuK.5y2@news2.cis.umn.edu> lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>In article <C1HpB0.3ow@news2.cis.umn.edu> bert@snowman.med.umn.edu (Albert Nakano  CBN) writes:
>>Could someone please post a brief synopsis of what Cages is about?  Who is the
>>writer, how many issues is scheduled, from which publisher, etc would be very
>>appreciated.  Thanks in advance.
>
>Cages is a 10 part series written and illustrated by Dave McKean. It is being 
>published by Tundra. So far six issues have been released. I try to 
>recommend it whenever possible. 
>
>What's it about? I think I've tried to answer this three or four times in
>this group and I've never been happy with my answer. In a lot of ways, it's
>about artistic creation and the self-doubt some artists and writers go 
>through. It's also about cats. It has some really strange characters and
>events, but it also captures the feel of a night's worth of conversation.
>
>Could someone help me out here? It's just very hard to categorize and just
>summing up what has happened so far almost makes the story sound trivial.
Lance, you hit it right on the head.  Cages is just something you have
to read.  It's hard to tell if it is going to have a slight supernatural
bent.  The mystery about the downstairs author and his relationship with
the mystery men is intriguing.  I recommend it highly.  What I find 
interesting is I hated McKean's artwork for the Death Aids awareness
insert, but the same type of art in Cages is very effective.  (Don't
ask me why I like it in one book but not in another, I'm not sure
why I feel that way).  This is one book where the reader has to spend 
time on the art in each panel as well as read the words.


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From: silbrmnd@acf3.nyu.edu (Darkmage)
Subject: Re: Sandman -- Brief Lives 7 (possible spoilers)
Organization: New York University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:07:04 GMT

apn207s@fermat.maths.monash.edu.au (Mr A Dempster) writes:

>In article <1jumr1INNgmr@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr) writes:
>|> In article <1993Jan24.052940.29838@midway.uchicago.edu> lf7z@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>|> 
>|> -- 
>|> "1. One Mind there is; but under it two principles contend.       
>|>  2. The Mind lets in the light, then the dark, in interaction; so time is gen-
>|>  erated.  At the end Mind awards victory to the light; time ceases and the Mind
>|>  is complete."        - from _Tractates: Cryptica Scriptura_


>WOW! You mean I'm not the only person on the planet that's read VALIS?

>
Of course you're not!!!  
BTW what do you call a pkd fan?  A Dickian?  A Dickhead?  *8-)

			-Darkmage, pkd's #1 fan.   :)

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>In order to remember your dreams, you must think of them as if they were 
>little kittens. When you wake up in the morning, before you get out of bed,
>Sit up and say, 
>"Here, kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty.
>Here, kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty.
>Here, kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty.
>Here, kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty.
>Here, kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty kitty."
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From: daq@fc.hp.com (Doug Quarnstrom)
Subject: Re: Squadron Supreme
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:25:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPUGE
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

: > I suspect you mean plagiarism.
: > 
: > doug
: 
: Before everyone gets too mad at DC for copying Squadron Supreme,
: or at Marvel for SS copying the original JLA, let me remind you
: of an as yet unstated fact.
: 
: Way back when, DC and Marvel decided that they would give a wink
: to the other company and create characters modeled after each
: others super-team.  That's how SS came to be.  DC had a similar
: JLA story at the time.  This is were the Silver Sorceress and Blue
: Jay and all the other superheroes from the Extremest's world came
: from.  So neither company is ripping off or plagarizing the other.

Perhaps not in the legal sense.


doug

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From: hfelsher@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harry D Felsher)
Subject: Regarding Future Imperfect
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:54:36 GMT

I'm new to this newsgroup thing.  What is this Future Imperfect that I keep 
reading about ?

               Harry
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From: jholstei@scott.skidmore.edu (jeremy holstein)
Subject: Re: GAIMAN'S/SANDMAN'S FUTURE
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:38:33 GMT

<SRH123@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> I've been hearing a lot of conflicting rumors about Neil Gaiman's stay on
> Sandman.  On one hand, I hear he's writing until issue 60 before spinning off
> an Endless mini, perhaps a Lady Johanna Constantine one-shot.  On the other
> hand, I heard he's writing until issue 80.  Then again, I hear he's going to
> quit at a certain issue number, take a break, then restart the series with a
> "Volume 2, No. 1" issue.

> Does ANYBODY know what the scoop is???

He writes until the storyline ends.  We know only that after Brief
lives there's going to be a series of shorts (including Arabian
Knights), and then a long series entitled "The Kindly Ones", a novella
called "The Wake", and then the final issue wrapping up the Shakespear
story dealing with "The Tempest."  Last I head, Mike Mignolia will be
drawing the Kidley Ones, and Charles Vess will be drawing the Tempest.

  Yes, Neil is thinking of doing a series of Endless mini-series.  I
don't think he's planning on Sandman Vol. 2 (or at least, this is the
first I've heard mention of it....)
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From: lecuyer@wam.umd.edu (Catherine L. LeCuyer)
Subject: favorite artists
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:41:10 GMT

Back when people were talking about favorite artists and I
was still lurking I made up MY list but could remeber the name
of one particulr person. So help me out if you can.
He was drawing Dr.Strange about 1985-86. I think it was 
something very mundane like "Paul Smith". His artwork was
BEAUTIFUL but because it was real detailed work and he used
pointalism for shading it took him FOREVER and he couldn't 
keep up with deadlines. At least that is what I heard or assumed.

Does anyone remember him? Does anyone even read DR.S? Anyone 
know where he is now? (The artist,not the magician)
Thanks
Cathy, insert cute catchy quote of your choice here ____________.
From: ntprlr@eskimo.com (NightProwler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Tank Girl 2
Date: 25 Jan 93 05:29:20 GMT
Organization: Ghost in the Shell
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Attention Tank Girl fans:

Dark Horse is preparing to release Tank Girl 2 sometime in the near future
(late June?).

The editor of the book would like to get some feed back from hard-core Tank
Girl fans on the new book, and to that end he's willing to send out a black
and white photocopy of the first issue to the first twenty (20) people who
can send a post card to him at Dark Horse.

So, the first twenty people who can scrawl a return address on a post card
and send it to the following address will receive an advance copy of the first
installment of Tank Girl 2.  

Send your card/letter to:

		Edward Martin III
		c/o Dark Horse Comics, Inc.
		10956 SE Main Street
		Milwaukie, OR 97222
		U.S.A.

The catch?  There is none.  The editor would really like it, however, if the
recipients of the advance issue could write a letter suitable for publishing
on the letters page of the first issue of Tank Girl 2.

e-mail questions to me...Edward (and Dark Horse) doesn't have Internet
access...yet.  <g>
		
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From: maguire@zappa.jpl.nasa.gov (Kevin Maguire)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: favorite artists
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:48:22 GMT
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In article <1993Jan28.184110.28552@wam.umd.edu>, lecuyer@wam.umd.edu
(Catherine L. LeCuyer) wrote:
> 
> He was drawing Dr.Strange about 1985-86. I think it was 
> something very mundane like "Paul Smith". His artwork was
> BEAUTIFUL but because it was real detailed work and he used

His name was Paul Smith.  Before working on Dr. Strange he was the artist
on X-Men, where he drew the original Brood Saga.  Since his tenure on Dr.
Strange I can't remember having noticed his work anywhere else (this does
not mean he hasn't done anything - only that I haven't seen it).

He was responsible for my favorite Dr. Strange story, the one where the
Tibetan monks come looking for the reincarnation of their Lama and it's
a suburban pizza-delivery boy.

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From: cavers@menudo.uh.edu (Chris M. Cavers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Sword And Sorcery List and Related Stuff
Date: 21 Jan 1993 03:10:33 -0600
Organization: University of Houston
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I am trying to generate a list of fantasy/swrod and sorcery titles.

Reply by email please.

Below is a list of what I think are fantasy/sword and sorcery titles.
The ones that I am definitely sure of are categorized.
The uncategorized ones are PROBABALLY sword and sworcery.
Categories are:
	Tarzan and Tarzan spinoffs
	Medieval
	Cave Men

Adventurers 
Adventurers-Book II 
Adventurers-Book III 
Arak-Son of Thunder 			
Arik Khan 
Barbarians-featuring ironjaw 
Balder The Brave 
Beowulf 
Camelot 3000 				Medievel - king arthur???
Chilling Adventures in Sorcery 
Claw the unconquered 
Conan 					
Conan Saga
Conan The Barbarian-Movie Special 
Conan The Destroyer-Movie Special 
Dark Crystal 
Dragonforce 
Dragonlance 
Dragonring 
Dragonslayer 
Elf Warrior 
Elric - The Vanishing Tower 
Falonz 
Forgotten Realms 
Hercules 
Hercules Unbound 
John Carter Warlord of Mars 		Tarzan
Kamandi 				Tarzan
Kazar 					Tarzan
Kazar the Savage 			Tarzan
King Conan 
Kong the untamed 			Cave Men
Korak-Son of Tarzan 			Tarzan
Korg 70,000 B.C. 			Cave Men
Kull the Conqueror/destroyer 
Kull the Conqueror 
Kull the Conqueror 
Man from Atlantis 
Outlaws 				Robin Hood
Red Sonja 
Rima 					Tarzan
Robin Hood 				Robin Hood
Savage Sword of Conan
Savage Tales
Sectaurs 
Shadow of the Torturer 
Shanna-the she devil 			Tarzan
Skull the slayer 
Spellbinders 
Spelljammer 
Sword of Solomon Kane 
Sword of Sorcery 
Syphons 
Tarzan 					Tarzan
Tarzan - DC 100 page super Spectactular Tarzan
Thor 
Tor 					Cave Men ????
Totem:sign of the wardog 
Tragg and the Sky Gods 			Cave Men
Warlord 
Warlord 
Wulf the Brbarian 


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From: wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com (Christopher M. Conway)
Subject: Re: MISC: Missed Deadlines
Reply-To: wombat@nfinit.enet.dec.com
Organization: Prickly Wombat Enterprises
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:04:16 GMT


In article <C1FuHA.x6@cs.uiuc.edu>, wesselak@suna0.cs.uiuc.edu (Erik Wesselak) writes:
- 
- I think a fair scale for this sort of tardiness is not how late a comic is,
- but the product of how late it is and how many people are waiting for it (in
- other words, how much anxiety it is generating :) ...so something like
- 
- 	Absolute Distress  =  (#months comic is late  *  #people waiting)
- 
- Of course, there is no way to accurately quantify this here, but I'd venture
- to say that the forerunners of AD are Big Numbers and Miracleman.
- 
Actually, the number of people waiting is *not* time-invariant, so it
should actually be the definite integral of the number of people waiting
for it from the time it was due until now:

                     now
                     _
                    |
Absolute Distress = | people_waiting(t) dt
                   _|
	        due date

Which, if you could find out *exactly* when each individual person started
and/or stopped waiting, could of course be evaluated as a simple summation.

Bear in mind that someone does not start being anxious about a comic's being
late until they realize that it *is* late, so that the wait start time is
*not necessarily* equal to the due date for each person... unless they were
sitting and watching their shop owner unpack his shipment...

You'd also need to add a function, which would also be time-variant,
determining just exactly how anxious the reader is to get the comic, and
how much he expects to get it in right now.

For instance, my anxiety about _Big Numbers_ being late is quite low at
this point, as I don't *expect* it to be out anytime soon...

B^{)>

( Hey, I've got to trot out my math nerdiness every once in a while. )

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From: khale@camilla.Eng.Sun.COM (Abhijit Khale)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: McReviews: JLA #72
Date: 24 Jan 1993 04:10:26 GMT
Organization: Sun
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In article <1993Jan23.164600.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Elmo the Stunt Elk) writes:
....
>	Oh, please, do *some* modicum of research before spouting off like
>this.
>	Squadron Supreme first appeared in Avengers 89, in the *late 60s*,
>and was deliberately the first JLA/Avengers crossover.  

Yes. As side note, the Squadron Sinister appeared even earlier, in a 
game the Grandmaster played with the Avengers and Kang. It was fairly obvious
even then that they were JLA clones. 

>JLA 89 featured a
>thinly disguised version of the Avengers, who also made recent
>reappearances in JLE.

JLA #87, actually. JLA # 89 is the story with the Harlan Ellison clone who
falls in love with the Black Canary. 

Incidentally, the Avengers clones originally came from a planet called Angor :
this was later retconned into a parallel dimension in early Giffen JL. 

The members of the team and their clones were : 
Wandjina : 		Thor 
Silver Sorceress : 	Scarlet Witch
Blue Jay	 :  	Yellow Jacket/Ant Man. 

Now it gets slightly hazy : 

The original  story had someone called Jack B. Quick, but later stories have
referred to someone called Captain Speed. Either way, this is Quicksilver.

JLIQ #3 has a whole bunch of characters, some of whom were never named : 

An unnamed Archer : Hawkeye (even makes a comment about "Black Widow" women,
			an obvious joke reference to Natasha)
Tin Man : Iron Man 

An unnamed Giant : probably Goliath. [ Of course, in Avengers history Goliath
				was Hank Pym and then Hawkeye, but theres
				nothing to indicate that this is BlueJay in
				another guise]

A woman wearing a rather skimpy costume, with wings and called only T.A. :
The expansion is obvious, and the woman is probably an analogue to Wasp. 

The team was  referred to variously as the Justifiers and as the Assembl-
ers. They had a butler who looked like a mix of Alfred and Jarvis. 
				
JLIQ # 3 was mostly played for laughs and had a bunch of other characters,
including someone who looked and talked like Wolverine, another Iron Man
look-alike, a Klaw look-alike, a Spider man look-alike (in a panel with
a joke variation of the standard Spidey line about power and responsibility).

Mitch Wacky is an obvious Walt Disney clone.

Also, for the extremists, the following are the correspondences : 

Lord Havok : Dr. Doom
Dr. Diehard : Magneto
Gorgon : Dr. Octopus
Tracer : Sabertooth (or Wolverine, but he looked more like Sabertooth)
Dreamslayer : Dormammu.

Everyone except DreamSlayer, Silver Sorceress, Blue Jay, Wandjina, Mitch
Wacky died when the Extremists nuked the planet, or died of radiation poison-
ing later. Wandjina died fighting Captain Atom in JL. Mitch, Silver Sorceress
and Dreamslayer bought it in "Breakdowns". Blue Jay is thus the only surviv-
or. 

Abhijit