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From: ender@triryche.UU.NET (Pete "Ender" Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: DT question
Date: 28 Jan 1993 11:15:51 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
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In article <ano.728136093@reading>, ano@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Adrian Ogden) writes:
|> >In article <1993Jan26.022858.4202@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd) writes:
|> 
|> >|> Well, I can *almost* answer your question.  Yes, they are saying
|> >|> something...something from Hamlet.  From info given to me by a couple
|> >|> friends that are true fanatics, Pull Me Under is not only about suicide,
|> >|> but based on Hamlet.  The last lines are from the play.  "All life is
|> >|> good..."  Sorry, but I forgot the rest.  Maybe Ender will see this and
|> >|> remind us all :)
|> 
|> Are you sure it's about suicide? I saw it more as merely the acceptance
|> of the inevitability of death, not actually taking deliberate steps to
|> hasten it.

I dunno...  my roommate says that John Petrucci told him it was about
suicide...  I talked to Mike and he said it was based on Hamlet (which I
think I've proven the validity of).  Hamlet deals with many forms of death,
including but not limited to suicide.  Hell...  Hamlet's father was
poisoned by his (Hamlet's) uncle, Ophelia (Hamlet's fiance) commits suicide
after Hamlet kills her father, and on and on and on right up to the grand
finale involving a poisoned sword, poisoned wine, and deaths galore...
A rather gruesome play...

|> Many thanks to Ender for those Hamlet references! I'd never have
|> spotted them; I don't usually read Shakespeare if I can avoid it.

No worries... I am an English major after all... and I *LIKE* Shakespeare...
=)

|> <<  Adrian Ogden -- "Sic Biscuitus Disintegrat" -- ano@csres.cs.rdg.ac.uk  >>

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Pete "Ender" Walsh, AlterNet Junior Engineer   | Internet: ender@uunet.uu.net
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    "When someone says `My heart needs lifting.' don't ask `How come?',
     ask `How high?'" - "Don't Look Past Me" by Dream Theater (unreleased)
From: ender@triryche.UU.NET (Pete "Ender" Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: DT question
Date: 26 Jan 1993 11:17:18 GMT
Organization: UUNET Communications
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In article <1993Jan26.022858.4202@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd) writes:

|> Well, I can *almost* answer your question.  Yes, they are saying
|> something...something from Hamlet.  From info given to me by a couple
|> friends that are true fanatics, Pull Me Under is not only about suicide,

Who are you calling fanatics??? =)

|> but based on Hamlet.  The last lines are from the play.  "All life is
|> good..."  Sorry, but I forgot the rest.  Maybe Ender will see this and
|> remind us all :)

I honestly don't know what the exact words are...  All Mike (Portnoy... not
Shepherd or Weintraub =) ) told me was that it was from Hamlet and he couldn't
remember exactly what they were.  He suggested I ask Kevin (Moore, who wrote
the lyrics for "Pull Me Under") but I didn't get a chance... sorry folks...
if they come back to Hammerjacks in February (they might) I'll be sure to ask.

Since I've failed you all there I figured I would share these little tidbits,
gleaned from Hamlet while Steve and I were scanning the text looking for those
elusive lines:

Hamlet - "there's a special providence in the fall of a sparrow."
PMU - "Watch the sparrow falling, Gives new meaning to it all."

Hamlet - "If thou didst ever thy dear father love--"
PMU - "And then my only father's son, As sure as I did ever love him"

Hamlet - "Not so, my lord; I am too much i' the sun"
PMU - "Living my life too much in the sun"

Hamlet - "The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune, Or to take arms against
          a sea of troubles,"
PMU - "Arrows fly, Seas increase and then fall again"

Kinda cool, eh?

|> Dream on,
|> Mike
|> -- 
|> Michael Shepherd ++ mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu ++ shepherd.wbst129@xerox.com
|> * From the pain come the dream, From the dream come the vision, From the *
|> * vision come the people, And from the people come the power, From this  *
|> * power come the change.  - P. Gabriel                                   *

Ender
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: borella@toadflax.UCDavis.EDU (Mike Borella)
Subject:  DREAM THEATER!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: UC Davis, EECS Division of Computer Science
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:24:11 GMT
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Just kidding.


Actually, if you like DT, check out Deux Ex Machina.  
Brilliant rhthym section (irrhythm section is more like
it) best vocalist I've heard in years, very heavy
guitars, keyboards and electric violin.  

I won't much else, and I especially won't say that
they're better than Dream Theater because, lord 
knows, I'm not one to step on sacred cows.

-Mike



Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis)
Subject: Re: Dream Theatre?!?
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:33:06 GMT

In article <1k0brcINNk3i@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de> thbon@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Thomas Bonk) writes:
>Is this a newsgroup specially for Dream Theatre fans, or what? Thought it is
>for all progressive metal-bands.

Yes, this is for all prog-metal. It's just that DT got new album out and 
they're touring in the US (hope they'll come to Europe soon), so there seems
to be a lot of reasons to babble about them. 
And I guess most of Queensryche fans are subscribed to the Screaming in
digital-digest, so they don't necessarily subscribe to this group.

But here's something non-DT-related stuff:
I just bought my first album by Crimson Glory (I guess they are counted
as a progressive band), 'Strange And Beautiful'. I can't say I like it
very much, at least not yet. What other albums they've done, and how do they
relate to SAB. 

Oh my God, it's full of stars...


Matti K. Varis m38853v@saha.hut.fi Helsinki University Of Technology

Frozen world outside, Made by Foolish pride 
(Armored Saint/Aftermath)
From: ender@rodan.UU.NET (Pete "Ender" Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Hammerjacks on Feb 27?? (was Re: Dream Theater in Baltimore!)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 14:27:23 -0500
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In article <1k919iINN3nv@lynx.unm.edu> pdaugher@mcl.bdm.com (Pat Daugherty) writes:
>I heard on 103.1 last night that DT is coming to Hammerjacks on
>February 27, so for those in the area it should be rockin!!!!!
>
>
>--
>*	pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com                     *
>*	PAT DAUGHERTY   REDSKINS, wait till next year      *
>*	"Hey Man I Am Cool, I Am The Breeze"               *

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm....  I was so psyched about this I called Hammerjacks
and guess what...  they know nothing about this...  I've been trying to
call 103.1, but I live in Northern VA and can't remember the friggin'
call letters, so I can't get the number from information.  Can someone 
in the know:

A) Post/mail me the call letters of 103.1 in Baltimore

B) Post/mail me the phone number for 103.1 (concert line would be
   nice, but it's probably a recording...  would like to speak to
   a live person if the recording gives no info.)

-OR-

C) Call 103.1 and get details, corrections, whatever and summarize
   for the rest of us?

If I manage to find anything out I'll post details...

Ender
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson)
Subject: Re: Western U.S. tour dates...??  Please?
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 20:49:52 GMT

In article <21JAN199323364233@vesper> x_jennings@vesper (Afterimage) writes:
>I need some help....!  I've been patiently waiting for Dream Theater to come
>anywhere within a 600-mile radius of Billings, Montana... but no luck so
>far!  If anybody has any western U.S. tour dates for Dream Theater, please
>let me know!  Please please please!  Or if you have a phone number for DT's
>management, so I can call and find some dates, drop me a line in e-mail!
>
>Some of the cities that I am willing to drive to (which might be big enough
>to draw DT) are:  Bismarck, ND ... Sioux Falls, SD ... Spokane, WA ... 
>Boise, ID ... Casper, WY ... any city in Montana ... Regina, Saskatchewan 
>and even Salt Lake City, UT or Calgary, Alberta if I'm really desparate.
>
>I already heard about Denver on the 11th of February, but I have two exams 
>that day!  I'm going to try to convince the teachers to let me take them 
>early, but not likely...!  Please help a DT fan in need!
>
>--Don
>

Hey, I heard on the radio the other day that DT is in Denver on Feb. 7th,
not the 11th like I said earlier...
 
Makes sense, I think this is a Sunday. and the 11th is Thursday...  Who
the hell plays on Thursday?
 
Sorry, but maybe you can go now, huh?
 


To: x_jennings@vesper
Subject: Re: Western U.S. tour dates...??  Please?
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
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Hey, I heard on the radio the other day that DT is in Denver on Feb. 7th,
not the 11th like I said earlier...
 
Makes sense, I think this is a Sunday. and the 11th is Thursday...  Who
the hell plays on Thursday?
 
Sorry, but maybe you can go now, huh?
 

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson)
Subject: DT question
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 10:34:04 GMT

I know all you DT nuts out there are just dying to answer my question. ok,
at the end of pull me under (the album mix)...where it repeats that little
keyboard ditty and then ends abrubtly.  when they start singing, are they
singing anything?  i can't tell if there are words there or not. if so, what
are they.

i'm sure somebody'll know!

thanks,

rich.



-- 
"For I am a Bear of Very Little Brain,
     and big words Bother me."
	-Winnie-the-Pooh
From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Western U.S. tour dates...??  Please?
Date: 24 Jan 1993 22:28:08 -0500
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In article <1993Jan24.204952.9509@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> khiggins@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ken Higginson) writes:
>Hey, I heard on the radio the other day that DT is in Denver on Feb. 7th,
>not the 11th like I said earlier...
> 
>Makes sense, I think this is a Sunday. and the 11th is Thursday...  Who
>the hell plays on Thursday?
> 
>Sorry, but maybe you can go now, huh?

I have no clue about the date, but I've seen them six times now, once on a
Tuesday, once on a Thursday, a Friday, and 3 Saturdays.  Basically, to
answer your "question," Dream Theater does! 8-)

Steve Mansfield                   Junior AlterNet Engineer 
smm@uunet.uu.net                  uunet!smm
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: robyn@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (robyn williamson)
Subject: Re: Western U.S. tour dates...??  Please?
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-13997]: rs1.tcs.tulane.edu
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Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:01:14 GMT

In article <21JAN199323364233@vesper> x_jennings@vesper (Afterimage) writes:
>
>
>far!  If anybody has any western U.S. tour dates for Dream Theater, please
>let me know!  Please please please!  Or if you have a phone number for DT's
>

Does anyone know if they plan to head south?  New Orleans?
From: ender@rodan.UU.NET (Pete "Ender" Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Dream Theater at Hammerjacks on February 27th!!! (it's official!)
Date: 28 Jan 1993 22:28:14 -0500
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In the words of my roomie Steve who just called Hammerjacks AGAIN since we
had BOTH called 103.1 and been told that their info was from "an official
source."...  "SSSSCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRREEEEEEEE!!!!!!"

IT'S OFFICIAL GUYZ AND GALZ!!

Dream Theater will be appearing at Hammerjacks in Baltimore on Saturday
February 27th!   Doors will open at 8pm.  No ticket price available yet.
(like we CARE how much it's going to cost us... we're fanatics... =) )

As soon as I find out prices and any more details I'll post 'em!

Ender

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    "When someone says `My heart needs lifting.' don't ask `How come?',
     ask `How high?'" - "Don't Look Past Me" by Dream Theater (unreleased)
From: gjr@st-andrews.ac.uk (Graham James Reilly)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: DT's drummer
Date: 21 Jan 93 16:31:24 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

> 
>BTW:  What is the "Spirit Of Rush" they give thanks to?
> 

Spirit of Rush is this totally excellent Rush fanzine run by a guy called Mick
( last name escapes me ) in London.  It has been going for about 5 years now - a lot longer than A Show of Fans ( a sort of sister American produced thing ).  If anybody wants the address then email me.  Its also in the alt.fan.rush FAQ.


Dylan

( just sittin' here watchin those crazy mushrooms grow )
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.D. Shepherd)
Subject: Re: DT question
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 02:28:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.103404.19548@leland.Stanford.EDU> tullfan@leland.Stanford.EDU (Richard Thompson) writes:
>I know all you DT nuts out there are just dying to answer my question. ok,
>at the end of pull me under (the album mix)...where it repeats that little
>keyboard ditty and then ends abrubtly.  when they start singing, are they
>singing anything?  i can't tell if there are words there or not. if so, what
>are they.
>
>i'm sure somebody'll know!

Well, I can *almost* answer your question.  Yes, they are saying
something...something from Hamlet.  From info given to me by a couple
friends that are true fanatics, Pull Me Under is not only about suicide,
but based on Hamlet.  The last lines are from the play.  "All life is
good..."  Sorry, but I forgot the rest.  Maybe Ender will see this and
remind us all :)

Dream on,
Mike
-- 
Michael Shepherd ++ mds5142@ultb.isc.rit.edu ++ shepherd.wbst129@xerox.com
* From the pain come the dream, From the dream come the vision, From the *
* vision come the people, And from the people come the power, From this  *
* power come the change.  - P. Gabriel                                   *
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From: ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater vs Veni Domine
Reply-To: ars1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Sinn Santos)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:07:42 GMT


Who?

  OOOOO  OO  OOOO   OOOO     sinn santos, computer music, columbia university.
 /OO/// /OO /OO//O /OO//O     "They can take the record, and they can SHOVE
 //  OO /OO /OO /O /OO /O     IT RIGHT DOWN THEIR THROATS!"   "Money talks,
  OOOOO /OO /OO /O /OO /O      and bullshit walks..."  "Every song's a hit!"
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From: n8846069@henson.cc.wwu.edu (BarryB)
Subject: Re: Dream Theater vs Veni Domine
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 07:09:36 GMT

Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell) writes:

>Those of you that have heard both groups (Dream Theater and Veni Domine),
>which do you find to be heavier? I think VD because of the keyboards.. the
>keys in VD are much less pronounced than in DT, whose keyboardist gives
>the band a cool jazzy feel whereas VD's keyboardist adds to the gothic
>dimension of the band..

I don't find either to be obviously heavier overall.  Dream Theater
has the heavier moments, combined with an upbeat feel.  While Veni Domine
has a much darker gothic feeling, similar to old Queensryche.  Both bands
keyboardists help define the music, rather than just being simple ordiments.

-BarryB
From: ender@rodan.UU.NET (Pete "Ender" Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Dream Theater in Baltimore!
Date: 28 Jan 1993 13:32:58 -0500
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In article <1k919iINN3nv@lynx.unm.edu> pdaugher@mcl.bdm.com (Pat Daugherty) writes:
>I heard on 103.1 last night that DT is coming to Hammerjacks on
>February 27, so for those in the area it should be rockin!!!!!
>
>
>--
>*	pdaugher@bdmserver.mcl.bdm.com                     *
>*	PAT DAUGHERTY   REDSKINS, wait till next year      *
>*	"Hey Man I Am Cool, I Am The Breeze"               *

All I can say is....

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!

Get to see them *AGAIN!*  Number 6!!!

Happy happy joy joy!!

For those who care, I just checked the calendar and the 27th is a
Saturday...

Ender

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Subject: Re: DT question
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To all DT fans,

Ender, is that a dare?  I guess I'll have to Interview Mr. Moore
next time around, eh????

Awaiting a thread on what Metropolis I is about, so I can QUOTE PETRUCCI
from my interview about it!!! PUAHAHAHAHAHHAHAH...

Ok, enough outta me, Dream on...

Mike (Weintraub, *not* Portnoy)  :)
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From: pdaugher@mcl.bdm.com (Pat Daugherty)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Dream Theater in Baltimore!
Date: 28 Jan 1993 16:23:14 GMT
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I heard on 103.1 last night that DT is coming to Hammerjacks on
February 27, so for those in the area it should be rockin!!!!!


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*	PAT DAUGHERTY   REDSKINS, wait till next year      *
*	"Hey Man I Am Cool, I Am The Breeze"               *
From: ender@triryche.UU.NET (Pete "Ender" Walsh)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Dream Theatre?!?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 11:24:20 GMT
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In article <1993Jan26.083306.13074@nntp.hut.fi>, m38853v@saha.hut.fi (Matti Varis) writes:
|> In article <1k0brcINNk3i@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de> thbon@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Thomas Bonk) writes:
|> >Is this a newsgroup specially for Dream Theatre fans, or what? Thought it is
|> >for all progressive metal-bands.
|> 
|> Yes, this is for all prog-metal. It's just that DT got new album out and 
|> they're touring in the US (hope they'll come to Europe soon), so there seems

Yep...  DT will be starting their European tour in March.

|> to be a lot of reasons to babble about them. 
|> And I guess most of Queensryche fans are subscribed to the Screaming in
|> digital-digest, so they don't necessarily subscribe to this group.

Some of us read both... =)

|> But here's something non-DT-related stuff:
|> I just bought my first album by Crimson Glory (I guess they are counted
|> as a progressive band), 'Strange And Beautiful'. I can't say I like it
|> very much, at least not yet. What other albums they've done, and how do they
|> relate to SAB. 

I liked their first album, "Crimson Glory", best.  Their second album,
"Transcendence" was also very good (in my opinion, of course).  I like
"Strange and Beautiful" but it's not really representative of their other
work.  Their early stuff is MUCH more progressive and less Zeppelin-esque.

|> Oh my God, it's full of stars...

And it doesn't lift samples from movies either... although the cover for
"Transcendence" is from OMNI magazine... =)

|> Matti K. Varis m38853v@saha.hut.fi Helsinki University Of Technology
|> 
|> Frozen world outside, Made by Foolish pride 
|> (Armored Saint/Aftermath)

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Pete "Ender" Walsh, AlterNet Junior Engineer   | Internet: ender@uunet.uu.net
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  "If you can keep your head while all those about you are losing theirs,
   then perhaps you have misunderstood the situation." - _The_Long_Run_
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: hines@left.fishkill.ibm.com (Charles K. Hines)
Subject: Fates Warning info????
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 15:32:52 GMT
Reply-To: chuck_hines@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Poughkeepsie, NY


Anybody have any info on Fates Warning such as a new album date or 
tour information?  They are one of my favorite bands, and I've been 
following their albums for many years now, but I don't often hear 
much about them...any info/gossip would be appreciated.

Chuck

ps - if anyone out there hasn't heard of them, I suggest tracking down
a copy of "Perfect Symmetry" or "Parallels" and listening to it...
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Dream Theater vs Veni Domine
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 04:06:33 GMT


Gotta start some controversy on this newsgroup! I just gotta! :-)

Those of you that have heard both groups (Dream Theater and Veni Domine),
which do you find to be heavier? I think VD because of the keyboards.. the
keys in VD are much less pronounced than in DT, whose keyboardist gives
the band a cool jazzy feel whereas VD's keyboardist adds to the gothic
dimension of the band..

Which do you agree with?

Phil

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