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From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
Subject: Re: Great feature in 1200 (3.0?)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 02:28:39 GMT

In article <griffita.726704390@sfu.ca> griffita@fraser.sfu.ca (David Stuart Griffiths) writes:
>There's a great feature that I just discovered in my new A1200.  If
>you manage to guru the machine, it displays the flashing guru box on
>the screen as usual, but it REBOOTS after 8 seconds!!!!
>
>Wonderfull!  Great!!! Thank-you Commodore!!!  I've been waiting a LONG
>time for an Amiga which can recover from a guru error without anyone
>clicking the mouse!!!
>
>BBS Operators throughout the world thank you for this one!!!

   I know some other people who would be greatful for this: cable operators.
Amigas are uses to produce the Preview Guide that is carried by many local
cable systems, and I don't know how many times I have turned over to the
Preview Guide and seen the infamous GURU flashing.  Having the automatic
reboot from the GURU would make the Amiga a bit more acceptable for other kinds
of automated on-air uses.

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From: dmkasten@redorc.chi.il.us (Bowie Poag)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: ReOrg ever fatally messed up?
Date: 11 Jan 93 11:09:37 CST
Organization: Red Oracle Bbs/Network

In article <1ic17lINNdik@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>, cs_d604@ceres (David Scutt)
writes:
>shulick@cineret.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
>: 
>: Has anyone had ReOrg trash their HD?  I can't afford a decent backup
>: method for my HD, but it needs defragmenting.
>: 
>: -- 
>
>       I have used ReOrg on my nice 52MB HD, and had no problems.  It has a 
>NOWRITE option (type Reorg -NOWRITE DH0:), which allows you to go through the 
>scanning and re-ordering without actually writing anything back to the disk.  
>This is the option to use to see if it causes any errors.  
>
>       It should be safe to use, as long as you don't get a power cut, or 
>interrupt it half-way through....
>
>       As far as the Backup is concerned, what's wrong with AmigaDOS copy and
>a good file archiver????
>
>Dave Scutt - cs_d604@ceres.king.ac.uk




An early version of ReOrg that I used BADLY screwed over my HD.. this was about
7-8 months ago.. Went like 15% through the defragmenting process and just
decided it wanted to quit for some stupid reason.. botched every single file on
disk..



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From: mplumb@sciborg.uwaterloo.ca (Marc Plumb)
Subject: Re: Amiga software for visually-impaired users
Summary: BIG fonts under 2.0
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:25:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan2.200900.15441@urbana.mcd.mot.com> qbarnes@urbana.mcd.mot.com (Quentin Barnes) writes:
>What Amiga software programs and utilities are available for
>visually-impaired users?

Under 2.0 one can set the various workbench fonts to be nice and large,
and yellow on black text gives good contrast, also the icons (even the
default icons) can be made big enough, as can the mouse pointer. Most
visually impaired users do a lot better if the font is even twice as
large as it is on most computers, and on the Amiga this doesn't cause
too many problems most of the time. Some programs are still too stupid
to work with different font sizes, but a lot of them ar okay.

I would think that it shouldn't take too much more work to make
AmigaDOS handle large fonts more gracefully (e.g. multi-column menus
that don't fall off the right hand edge of the screen, scrolling menu
bars to better accommodate wider fonts, variable sized scroll bars and
gadgets).  However the applications currently aren't pulling their
weight when it comes to working with larger fonts (even the C= supplied
programs don't work right).  --
	-marc

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From: dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: Great feature in 1200 (3.0?)
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:53:02 GMT

In article <C0oAxF.JHE@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> graham@venus.iucf.indiana.edu writes:
>Yes, that's a wonderful feature.  
>
>Unfortunately, I suspect most bbs sysops, like myself, aren't using
>the 1200 because it doesn't have a darned clock!!!
>
>Any sysop knows how important a clock is for a bbs.
>

	Do you mean it doesn't have a battery backed clock? I assume that
any machine that uses synchronous timing must have a clock, at least in 
machine readable form.

	Maybe if it doesn't have a human-readable clock, one could be written 
in software, but it might be hard. Once every cycle it would have to send
out an update to the software clock.

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	 login: ANONYMOUS password: GUEST for unrestricted downloads
From: rfentima@ub.d.umn.edu (Robert Fentiman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: REVIEW: AmigaDOS version 2.1
Date: 12 Jan 1993 00:23:23 -0600
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu
Keywords: OS, system software, 2.1, Commodore, commercial

In article <58579@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
:In article <1itb14INNmkd@lynx.unm.edu> kbos@carina.unm.edu (K. Mitchell Bose) writes:
:>I'm running Workbench 2.0 (not 2.04) on an Amiga 3000.  Is it possible simply
:>to purchase the AmigaDOS 2.1 upgrade, or do I need new ROMs as well?
:
:	AmigaDOS 2.1 runs with the 2.04 ROM's.  There is NO 2.1 ROM upgrade.
:
:                                                        Dan

But the poster was asking a question closer to: "Is the 2.0 ROM the same
as the 2.04 ROM?"

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	Thanks
	Robert Fentiman

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From: newton@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Dale E Newton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: terminal program problems with DOS 2.1
Keywords: AmigaDOS 2.1, terminal program, communications
Date: 9 Jan 93 04:59:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN

I have had chronic difficulty running communications terminal programs
under my newly installed AmigaDOS 2.1 on an A2500/030.  I have tried
everything from replacing the devs:, libs: and l: directories from
2.04 to see if somewhere in the path there is a conflicting software
bug.  I have been able to run communications programs from a bootable
2.04 floppy with a modem0.device driver copied to devs: for my 2400
SupraModem.  The nature of my problem is that I can get the program to
boot (say a generic vt100, or BaudBandit) and dialup and logon to a
system for about a minute or so before the character flow completely
stops to the screen and the program locks up.  I remain connected but
cannot execute any further commands to the program.  I end up having
to reboot to disconnect or sometimes the program will crash the system
entirely although not always.  Anyone else experience similar
difficulties and/or bugs with 2.1 and terminal programs?

Please post and/or send email.

Thanks.
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From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: Gremlins are munching my memory! (FastRam)
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:21:19 GMT

 charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
>jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce) writes:
>>    The 'loadwb -debug' option is on pre-WB 2.04. For WB 2.04 use
>>   avail /flush as there is no loadwb -debug in Wb 2.04. DJ.
>
>Hogwash.  RTFM, page 8-83.  "The -DEBUG option makes a special developer menu,
>Debug, availible in the Workbench menu bar."  I also know this is true for
>2.04 since the first thing I did when I switched from 1.3 is to change the
>LoadWB to a LoadWB -debug.  :)
   
      Thats a new one on me ! I'll look in the manual; after I finish
   Spring Semster registration here at work. DJ.
   I do know the avail /flush command is in my WB 2.04 manual...

-- 
         Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science USM 
             jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
                   Video. Cher: Love and Understanding.
          'Rush Limbaugh is the 'Chia Pet' of TV talk shows !'
From: db562s445@sycom.mi.org (Dave Birdsong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Bad Fish Program?
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:07:00 GMT
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.975

I while back I saw a post about a bad program on a FISH disk that was 
recalled but the asmum (or what ever it is called ) CD-ROM disk still had the 
bad file!!
I have a freind with that CD-ROM and we need to know that disk number so we 
can avoid it!!!!
Dave Birdsong
please send  e-Mail to 
db562s445@sycom.MI.ORG
thanks
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From: shulick@cineret.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick)
Subject: Re: Computer Joke.
Organization: Vallen Software
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:22:00 GMT


Here's another stupid one. :)

"How many IBM junkies does it take to fix an IBM math co-processor?"

It's very vague, so pat yourself on the back if you figure it out. :)

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Subject: Re: AmigaOS Versions
From: alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith)
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:45:39 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: Muppet Labs

In article <C0J819.143@dcs.ed.ac.uk> dcc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Crooke) writes:
>Amid all of the confusion, I will now survey what I believe are the major versions of
>the OS and submit for correction by the wisdom of the net.....
>
>   1.0 - Was there one? Perhaps for early 1000's.
>   1.1 - On Kickstart disk for A1000 - the oldest version I have.
>   1.2 - First version to be found in ROM, in early 500's and 2000's - could be
>         crashed by moving a Workbench window offscreen.
>   1.3 - The first reasonably stable, and longest lived version (3 years).
>   1.3.2 - Disk only upgrade, released with later A500's.
>   1.4 - (Never happened - became 2.0)
>   2.01, 2.02 - Disk-only (SuperKickstart) for early A3000's. Unstable.
>   2.04 - The first major release of 2.0x, for 3000's and in ROM for A500+/2000.
>          ROM size increased to 512K. No more meditation. Lots of fixes. First
>          decent version of Workbench. ECS support.
>   2.05 - Upgrade to above with minor fixes and support for IDE HDs (A600). Supplied
>          with A1500 as software-only upgrade to 2.04 and in ROM in the 600.

I bought an A2000HD (about 6 months ago) with 2.05 in ROM; I assume all A2000s
now in production have it. BTW, the A1500 seems to be unique to the UK; from
what I've been able to pick up from British magazines, it seems that the
version sold as the "A1500" in the UK is the same machine everyone else knows
as the "A2000", and the British "B2000" is known as the "A2000HD" everywhere
else (B = British?). Anyone know why the differences?

>   2.10 - Current version for non-AGA machines. Locale.library, fixes, PostScript,
>          some other stuff. I don't know if this is official in the UK but it IS
>          available. Supplied with current A3000's.
>   3.0 - 2.10 with some extra bits, mainly to support the AGA (AA ?) chipset.
>         Supplied with A1200/A4000.
>
>Can people add to or correct this?

The Libraries RKM has a list of Kickstart and Workbench version numbers; it
only goes up to 2.04, of course.

   Library  Kickstart/Workbench
   version  version
   -------  ---------------------------------------
   30       1.0
   31       1.1 (NTSC version)
   32       1.1 (PAL version)
   33       1.2
   34       1.3 (standard version)
   35       1.3 (special version for A2024 monitor)
   36       2.0
   37       2.04

The 2.05 libraries also have 37.x version numbers. Library versions 38 and
39 seem to be 2.1 and 3.0 respectively.

--
...... Ross Smith (Wanganui, NZ) ...... alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz ......

"I blame you for the moonlit sky and the dream that died with the Eagle's flight
I blame you for the moonlit nights when I wonder why are the seas still dry
Don't blame me, sleeping satellite"                              (Tasmin Archer)

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From: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Commodity question
Summary: Docs not perfect
Keywords: manuals documentation 2.04
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:26:57 GMT
Reply-To: ross@cbmvax.commodore.com (Ross Hippely - Manuals)
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1993Jan7.222820.13563@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
>crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>
>[Someone 's name deleted here ... sorry]

[comments from Rick and Crystal on virtues/failings of _Using the System
Software_ manual deleted]

My responses to this are covered in a prior response, basically saying that
there indeed seem to have been some gaps in the _UtSS_ index.

>i.e. Someone who was not Crystal wrote:
>>I found Enforcer on my HD, and I *know* I didn't put it there, and I couldn't
>>find a reference in the 2.04 manual for it, so I got bugged enough to run a
>>VIRUS CHECKER on the mysterious thing.  It was clean...but *geez* if a program
>>is considered important enough to put in with the system software, at least
>>DOCUMENT it!
>
>It's for systems with MMU's (normally 68030's and up).  They shoudl have still
>supplied *some* sort of docs, though.

Similarly, my previous response indicated that in general, stuff that is 
undocumented should be left alone.  It's unlikely you'll get a virus on an
original disk from Commodore.

>The docs with 2.04 were *quite* good.  Made much more sense than a lot of 
>others I read.  

Thanks!

>                You want lousy docs take a look at previous Workbench 
>releases (1.2 / 1.3).  *Those* were lousy docs!

There seems to be general agreement on this :-)

[...]

>+ Rick __     + EMAIL:charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu +   //\          + /|\ It's +
>|      /aylor | IRC  : Tomalek / The Romulan     | \X/--\miga 500 |  J rainy |

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.misc:19531 comp.sys.amiga.audio:4583
From: ja51359@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (axelrod)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.audio
Subject: Re: SoundZAP
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:41:42 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana


what's this for?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: won@cs.columbia.edu (Won Y. Kim)
Subject: Re: Computer Joke.
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:25:50 GMT

In article <C0Huwp.EH5@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@cineret.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
>
>Here's another stupid one. :)
>
>"How many IBM junkies does it take to fix an IBM math co-processor?"
>
>It's very vague, so pat yourself on the back if you figure it out. :)

I didn't know that it could be fixed :)
-- 
#include <std_disclaimer.h>
Resident Hacker and AI Guru in training :)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid)
Subject: Re: ReOrg ever fatally messed up?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:42:07 GMT

clldomps@cs.ruu.nl (Louis van Dompselaar) writes:

>There's a shareware program called Blitz A Disc (B.A.D.), which
>hasn't many options you can choose of, besides optimizing for
>WB or Shell usage, but has never ever crashed on me (not on 1.3
>and not on 2.04). It works with both FFS and OFS.

B.A.D. is not shareware, it is a commercial program.
-- 
Jon Reid    j-reid@uiuc.edu    GEnie: THE.REIDS
"He is no fool who gives what he cannot keep to gain what he cannot lose."
From: Jayson_Hahn@hq-bbs.wisdom.bubble.org (Jayson Hahn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Bodega Bay
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:15:40 GMT
Organization: Headquarters BBS (Morristown, NJ)


   I am about to purchase a Bodega Bay for my 500 and I was wondering if
anyone else has one and if so what they think of it. Have you had any
combatibility problems of any kind or just generally like it or not like
it.

   Any information you could give me would be greatly appreciated!!!

 

-- Via DLG Pro v0.995

Jayson Hahn
Amiga Sysop Headquarters BBS
1-201-672-8944

Jayson_Hahn@hq-bbs.wisdom.bubble.org

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From: BKessler@cup.portal.com (Brett L Kessler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: WB 2.xx startup WITHOUT the window??
Date: Thu,  7 Jan 93 00:00:47 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na

I may be wrong about this, but try pressing Amiga-B to get the window
to be a BACKDROP window, then go to the WINDOW menu and select SNAPSHOT
WINDOW.  My Workbench always opens up as a backdrop window, but I'll be
darned if I remember how I got it that way (over a year ago, you
understand!  ;-)


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|     ///  BRETT L. KESSLER                    bkessler@cup.portal.com |
| \\\///     VAX Programmer-Analyst / A.C.T. Financial Systems / NYC   |
=  \XX/    What did Mickey Mouse get for his bday? A Dan Quayle watch! =
From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Gotta Love it!!  (Humor)  ;>
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:21:21 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: glia.biostr.washington.edu


For the last year or so, I have enjoyed FINGERing various computers around
the world when bored.  Most are pretty mundane, giving only userID's and
port connections, assuming the machine allows FINGER to access it at all.
And others, like one of our major ones here at the UW, are filled with
140+ non-imaginative people!

Well, in my travels, one machine stands out among all others.  It is the 
epitome of creativity and comraderie among its users.  They seem to like
to communicate with one another via the process names (and sometimes do
so unintentionally, as one did in this case), which led to a very humorous
sequence that I thought Amiga folks would enjoy).  This has got to be
the most enjoyable place to watch.  I wish I could tell you where it is,
but in asking the users mentioned in this post for permission to put this
up here, there was some balking about mentioning the machine, which I 
promised to respect. 

What I found was this sequence of process names in this precise order:

CB74     Why ask Why"         350ed SEND    VTA9518
II33     I_HATE_THIS_MAC      33cf8         VTA9521     
OTTO     GET_AN_AMIGA         32878 NEWS   *VTA9489
POPE     Smeghead !           2ea28 EDT     VTA9541
WYATT    Time4Change          3001e         VTA8909    


And a postscript to this is that one of them put up "Hi, Crystal!" in
response to all of this correspondence about my enjoyment of the pnames!

Crystal
  :>
From: Tony-Preston@cup.portal.com (ANTHONY FRANCIS PRESTON)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: To ALIAS, or not to ALIAS [ie: What's up?]
Date: Wed,  6 Jan 93 08:53:48 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

What you have to do is order the aliases so that the shortest ones
come first!  For example:
 
alias del delete
alias dele delete
alias delet delete

will work correctly, but if you reverse the order only the last one
will work.  What I did was put all my aliases in a file and sort it!
From: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: New program: CaveComm
Date: 12 Jan 93 02:31:51 GMT
Reply-To: barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett)
Organization: BLAZEMONGER INCORPORATED

>In article <C0oB4v.Jp6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> shulick@navajo.ucs.indiana.edu (Sam Hulick) writes:
>>Me release CaveComm, version one.  Ugh!  Send smelly smoke signals to
>>another person....  Best of all, CaveComm as portable as dragging wife by
>>hair.

In article <jeper.02sa@kentcomm.UUCP> jeper@kentcomm.UUCP (Jim Perkowski) writes:
>Is this message politically correct? NOT! :)

	YEAH... it discriminates against Neanderthals, Cro-Magnon Persons,
People of Fossilization, and the Prehistorically Challenged.  This should be
reported IMMEDIATELY to the Society Against Bashing Early Relatives'
Telecommunications Offensively Or Through Humor.  Ugh.

                                                        Dan

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From: hibrown@sarah.albany.edu (Herb Brown)
Subject: Structured clip art
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 12:51:43 GMT


My wife's piano students have a "performance day" and I'm using PageStream
to create the day's program. What I need are the two clefs (treble and
bass) in structured graphics form. Are such things available in the PD
via anonymous ftp?

Please respond by e-mail.

Thank you,

Herb


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