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From: trix@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (t.roger.kiang)
Subject: Re: Fischer-Spassky news conference
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:04:25 GMT

From - Dave Fry
>Here, without permission and at the risk of going to jail for longer
>than Bobby Fischer, is the AP report on this morning's news conference
>in Yugoslavia where Fischer spit on the Treasury Department letter and
>showed his anti-Semitism is no rumor.  I was too young when Fischer
>was at his greatest to care about chess, but I studied him avidly in
>my teens and desperately wanted him to return.  Now, however, he's
>quickly destroying whatever romantic images I had of him.

At least Mr. Fry openly admits that the "real" Fischer seems
to be at odds with his "romantic images" of him, but, then
again my images of King Arthur probably got very little
to do with the "real" person...  With every intent of offending
at least one person, I like to point out that Serbs are killing
the Muslims in Yugoslavia, so, does this make Fischer anti-Arab?

More likely Mr. Fischer is antisocial, and the only reason Chinese
and others haven't been mentioned by him is because his narrow
focus to the people who is critical of him now.  On the other
hand, he certainly form his "own" opionions without giving any
consideration for being "politically correct" which is more
than I can say for the lot of us.

Clearly, my opinions are strictly my own...

Roger Kiang
trix@garage.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: jmk@cbnews.cb.att.com (joseph.m.knapp)
Subject: K-K games rigged?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 19:20:06 GMT

In a New York Times article, it was mentioned that Spassky also believes
that the Karpov/Kasparov match was rigged. Does this lend credence to 
Fischer's claim? They did say that such allegations are common in
the "paranoid" world of high-level chess though.

---
Joe Knapp   jmk@cbvox.att.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: "Ken Rawlings" <krawling@banana.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Bobby still #2?!?!?!?
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:08:38 -0500


	I read in the local campus newspaper today that Fischer is still ranked
#2 even after all these years. Considering the source, I find this claim rather
dubious. Could someone with more background in these matters confirm or deny
this, and if it's true, give a little background as to why.

					Thanks, 
					  Ken Rawlings
-- 
: Ken Rawlings      | One Tool to rule them all, one Tool to find them,       
: Computer Science  | One Tool to bring them all and in the darkness bind them.
: Indiana University|           -J.R.R. Tolkien(referring to Emacs)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: muysvasovic@applelink.apple.com (Jean-Denis Muys-Vasovic)
Subject: FISCHER SPASSKY game 2
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:25:45 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Europe
Followup-To: rec.games.chess

It is 7:30 AM PST. The first few moves in the second game between Spassky 
(white) and Fischer (black) are:

01     d4          Nf6
02     c4          g6
03     Nc3         Bg7
04     e4          d6
05     f3

Note that this is the Saemisch variation of the East Indian Defense, one
of the most ambitious and one of Spassky's favorite weapon twenty
years ago.

05                 c5

Quite provocative. Usually, black plays o-o first. With this
move, GM Gheorghiu lost a game against... Spassky.

06     dxc5        dxc5
07     Qxd8+       Kd8
08     Be3         Nd7
09     Ne2         b6

Fischer already played this position in 1970 (drawn in 57 moves against
Gheorghiu).


[from the French Minitel 36-15 ROQUE]

Jean-Denis Muys-Vasovic
Apple Computer Europe
From: gm26@prism.gatech.EDU (MCMURRAY,GARY V)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Fischer/Spassky Game
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:05:11 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Here are all of the moves to Fischer's first victory!!

1. e4	e5
2. Nf3	Nc6
3. Bb5	a6
4. Ba4	Nf6
5. 0-0	Be7
6. Re1	b5
7. Bb3	0-0
8. c3	d6
9. h3	Nb8
10.d4	Nbd7
11.Nbd2	Bb7
12.Bc2	Re8
13.Nf1	Bf8
14.Ng3	g6
15.Bg5	h6
16.Bd2	Bg7
17.a4	c5
18.d5	c4
19.b4	Nh7?!
20.Be3	h5
21.Qd2	Rf8
22.Ra3	Ndf6
23.Rea1	Qd7
24.R1a2 Rfc8
25.Qc1	Bf8
26.Qa1	Qe8
27.Nf1	Be7
28.N1d2	Kg7
29.Nb1	Ne4!?
30.Be4	f5
31.Bc2	Bd5
32.ab5	ab5	
33.Ra7	Kf6!?
34.Nbd2	Ra7
35.Ra7	Ra8
36.g4	hg4
37.hg4	Ra7
38.Qa7	f4
39.Bf4!	ef4
40.Nh4!	Bf7
41.Qd4	Ke6
42.Nf5	Bf8
43.Qf4	Kd7
44.Nd4	Qe1
45.Kg2	Bd5
46.Be4	Be4
47.Ne4	Be7
48.Nb5	Nf8
49.Nbd6	Ne6
50.Qe5	1-0

After the game, Fischer said (according to Prodigy) that he had had a good
opening and that it was a pretty good game.  Spassky said that Fischer
had a good plan and just killed him!!!

So, Fischer is off to a great start!!
 	

-- 
MCMURRAY,GARY V
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: baljeual@uther.calvin.edu (Alan Baljeu)
Subject: coverage
Summary: who has it?
Keywords: fischer fisher spassky 
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:29:28 GMT

OK, who is covering the match?  I heard rumors about someone on ICS transmitting
live from Prodigy, is it true?  Is there any other way to watch it?
When is it also?
(Eastern Standard Time, please)

	Alan Baljeu
PS I don't believe that my watching or observing of this event will 
affect the war in Yugoslavia in any way.
	(unless quantum physics is valid on a global scale :)
From: os9ug@gkcl.ists.ca (OS-9 User Group)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: computers that intentionally slip up (was Re: chinook)
Keywords: update
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:40:33 GMT
Reply-To: sizone!justin@ee.ryerson.ca (Justin)
Organization: y

In article <1992Aug28.133636.26497@cis.uab.edu> hyatt@cis.uab.edu (Robert Hyatt) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.064606.22271@ists.ists.ca> sizone!justin@ee.ryerson.ca (Justin) writes:
>>However, something still bothers me about the whole idea of this.  I
>>would rather play my best possible game, and lose; than make a move I
>>know is wrong and win.  I get no satisfaction out of such "victories".
>>
>This is why we haven't done anything about this in the past.  But,
>thinking about it, what would YOU have done in that game.  Sac'ing the
>queen led to a sure loss (it was a queen sac'ed for a knight as I recall).

If I were put in a position where I had a choice between a sure loss
(mate in 11), and a dreadful board position (down a queen) I would 
consider two steps:

(1) What is the possibility of getting a stalemate?
(2) There's no stalemate possible?  Ok, I resign.

>I would probably evaluate a queen down and mated as the same.....)

I would be inclined to do the same.  In both cases a resignation is
called for.  Unless of course a stalemate is possible -- in which
case I'd much rather be a queen down.

Justin
sizone!justin@ee.ryerson.ca (Justin Wells)
From: hau4@ellis.uchicago.edu (sven  hauptfeld)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fischer Spits!
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:46:10 GMT
Reply-To: hau4@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Sep02.042646.27418@vpnet.chi.il.us> mox@vpnet.chi.il.us (William Moxley) writes:
>In article <benwood.715369504@milton> benwood@milton.u.washington.edu (Ben Henwood) writes:
>>
>>So far, I haven't seen any mention of "the girl" who is there with 
>>Fischer.  The Seattle Times reporter her yesterday, 31 Aug, as a
>>19-year-old Hungarian Chess prodigy (they had her name, but I didn't
>>bring in the article).  I heard that Inside Chess had some information
>>on her, too.
>
>Her rating is in the 2100-2200 range.  What else do you need to know.
>:-)
>
>		William Moxley
>		mox@vpnet.chi.il.us
>
I'd like to know how someone 19 years old with a 2100-2200 rating can be
called a 'prodigy'.

Sven
From: sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com (Steven J. Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fischer/Spassky Moves so far
Date: 2 Sep 92 22:18:23 GMT
Reply-To: sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com
Organization: Bull HN, Worldwide Information Systems, Billerica, Mass., USA

In article <67499@hydra.gatech.EDU> gm26@prism.gatech.EDU (MCMURRAY,GARY V) writes:
[moves from Fischer/Spasski game one in columnar format]

From the SAN Kit, here are the moves and the current position in a
slightly more compact format:

[White: Fischer]
[Black: Spasski]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 O-O 8.
c3 d6 9. h3 Nb8 10. d4 Nbd7 11. Nbd2 Bb7 12. Bc2 Re8 13. Nf1 Bf8 14. Ng3 g6
15. Bg5 h6 16. Bd2 Bg7 17. a4 c5 18. d5 c4 19. b4 Nh7 20. Be3 h5 21. Qd2 Rf8
22. Ra3 Ndf6 23. Rea1 Qd7 24. R1a2 Rfc8

bR::bR::  ::bK::
::bB::bQ::bPbBbN
bP::  bP  bNbP::
::bP::wPbP  ::bP
wPwPbP::wP::  ::
wR  wP  wBwNwNwP
wR::wBwQ  wPwP::
::  ::  ::  wK  

Note that there are no captures as of yet.

 [The above opinions expressed are my own; not necessarily held by others.]
      == Steven J. Edwards           Bull HN Information Systems Inc. ==
      == (508) 294-3484              300 Concord Road         MS 820A ==
      == sje@xylos.ma30.bull.com     Billerica, MA 01821          USA ==
"That Government which Governs the Least, Governs Best." -- Thomas Jefferson
From: schiller@tira.uchicago.edu (Eric Schiller)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: fischer match coverage
Date: 1 Sep 92 20:54:39 GMT
	<1992Aug31.170502.19559@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
	<1992Aug31.221540.16594@osf.org>
Organization: Center for Information and Language Studies / University of
	Chicago

I wonder: did you boycott the 1986 Dubai Olympiad, when the Israeli team
was excluded? Have you never purchased the games in any form, annotated
or unannotated?

Did you divert your eyes from any coverage of the 1980 or 84 olympics?

Will you ask chess magazines reporting on the event not to send you
those copies, or will you have someone remove the offending pages?

I am not going to Yugoslavia to watch the match, and the Serbs
will make no money off of me. I don't call the chess 900 number
ever, not because I wish to deny messrs. Hamilton and Dlugy and
others money, but rather because I can get the info for free
by other means.

But this talk of "boycotting" the match be refusing to follow the
games and the results strikes me as childish and non-productive.
You certainly aren't denying the Serbs any money. Your "boycott"
will have no affect on anything or anyone.

Eric Schiller
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Fuzzy Rules/PA State Championship Controversy
From: barryp@otago.ac.nz
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:30:49 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

In article <wecgC=j0BwxKMuhF89@transarc.com>, Ron_Kownacki@transarc.com writes:
> The Pennsylvania State Championship this weekend was marred by a major
> controversy that arose from the sudden-death format.  The facts illustrate
> a desperate need for competently-written, simple and stable USCF rules
> covering such events.
> 
> * The facts:
> 
> Late into a long and well-played round 1 game, an A-player had achieved an
> elementary winning endgame against a master: B + 4 P's vs. B.  Although the
> bishops were opposite-colored, the win was really quite simple, and the
> 
> position (reduced now to K+B+P vs. K, however).  However, the B capture did
> not count due to the time claim, and the position left on the board was
> K+B+P vs. K+B.
> 
>   Eventually, someone (not the TD) found a new,
> obscure USCF rule, listed in a recent rating supplement, that said that
> the game was a win only if a mate-in-1 situation could be constructed
> starting from that position.  Not a mate, but a mate-in-1.
> 
Surely the situation as detailed is quite clear.  If the rule as stated above
is correct then it should have been adjudged a win to the master.  The 
problem, if there is one, is with the unfairness of the time control system.
In a tournament with time control each player has to play the clock as well
as the opponent.  In this case the A player lost because he ran out of time.

Time control is instigated for the convenience of the TD not the players.

Barry Phease
>
From: gm26@prism.gatech.EDU (MCMURRAY,GARY V)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Fischer/Spassky Moves so far
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:53:04 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Here are the moves as of 2:40 from Prodigy

1. e4	e5
2. Nf3	Nc6
3. Bb5	a6
4. Ba4	Nf6
5. 0-0	Be7
6. Re1	b5
7. Bb3	0-0
8. c3	d6
9. h3	Nb8
10.d4	Nbd7
11.Nbd2	Bb7
12.Bc2	Re8
13.Nf1	Bf8
14.Ng3	g6
15.Bg5	h6
16.Bd2	Bg7
17.a4	c5
18.d5	c4
19.b4	Nh7?! (Prodigy)
20.Be3	h5
21.Qd2	Rf8
22.Ra3	Ndf6
23.Rea1	Qd7
24.R1a2	Rfc8

That's all so far!!! 
-- 
MCMURRAY,GARY V
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
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From: pals@ipact.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: What's the current assessment of the Marshall Attack?
Date: 29 Aug 92 14:07:30 GMT
Organization: IPACT, Valparaiso IN

In article <21188@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, rcs@cs.arizona.edu 
(Richard Schroeppel) writes:
> What's the current of the Marshall Attack (in the Ruy Lopez,
> e4 e5, Nf3 Nc6, Bb5 a6, Ba4 Nf6, O-O Be7, Re1 b5, Bb3 O-O, c3 d5!?).
> The last time I played seriously, twenty years ago, White seemed
> to have the edge.  Lately, I've seen it used by good players with
> Black.  Is it rehabilitated?  Is 3 Bb5 refuted? :-)

A friend/occasional teacher of mine who is a senior master told me the
other day that current opinion is that the Marshall is fully sound for
Black, and that is one reason you are seeing more of 2.Bc4, 3.Bc4, 3.d4,
etc. lately.

-- 
Randy Pals                |pals@ipact.com
IPACT, Inc.               |
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: palane@iastate.edu (Paul A. Lane)
Subject: Re: Chinook-Tinsley results as of Saturday
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:19:18 GMT

In <1992Aug27.211948.27227@seas.smu.edu> pedersen@seas.smu.edu (Ted Pedersen) writes:

>Now I understand why Apple Computer products are all so ridiculously 
>overpriced and underpowered...at least one loyal employee seems to be spending
>too much time grousing about checkers rather than putting out 
>quality products at competitive prices...

>So the next time you see an overpriced Mac (sort of a redundancy there)
>- ask yourself how much of that price is going to subsidize employee
>playtime at Apple...

>Too much is the answer! Get to work! 

>Ted Pedersen

Certainly the most original argument I've heard against buying a Mac. I 
think I'll go buy a PowerBook and a Quadra just to support such folks.

Paul Lane
Xref: sparky rec.games.chess:6481 rec.games.go:1710 rec.games.board:8239
From: kring@efes.physik.uni-kl.de (Thomas Kettenring)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess,rec.games.go,rec.games.board
Subject: Crossposting instead of rec.games.strategic
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:55:02 GMT
Organization: FB Physik, Universitaet Kaiserslautern, Germany

Would you please all watch your Newsgroups: line of the message you reply to
before you reply?
If your subject belongs only in one of the newsgroups, standard practice is:
  - Keep the old Newsgroups: line
  - Set Followup-To: the newsgroup you want to post to
  - Mention that in your text (nobody looks at the Followup: line)

-- 
thomas kettenring, 2 dan, kaiserslautern, germany
Definition:  Idiot-proof  -  you are idiot-proof when you NEVER flame anybody.
From: alopez-o@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Alex Lopez-Ortiz)
Subject: Re: K-K games rigged?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:41:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.192006.4078@cbnews.cb.att.com>, jmk@cbnews.cb.att.com (joseph.m.knapp) writes:
> In a New York Times article, it was mentioned that Spassky also believes
> that the Karpov/Kasparov match was rigged. Does this lend credence to 
> Fischer's claim? They did say that such allegations are common in
> the "paranoid" world of high-level chess though.
> 

They specifically talk about the 19th game (of which match?).
Does naybody has a copy of such K-K game?


Alex

> ---
> Joe Knapp   jmk@cbvox.att.com

-- 
Alex Lopez-Ortiz                              alopez-o@maytag.UWaterloo.ca
Deparment of Computer Science                       University of Waterloo
Waterloo, Ontario                                                   Canada
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: os9ug@gkcl.ists.ca (OS-9 User Group)
Subject: Re: Stalemate (was Re: handicap in chess)
Reply-To: sizone!justin@ee.ryerson.ca (Justin)
Organization: y
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 19:09:49 GMT

In article <23576@alice.att.com> ark@alice.UUCP () writes:
>In article <64789@cup.portal.com> ts@cup.portal.com (Tim W Smith) writes:
>
>> Is there any good reason for the game ending on checkmate rather than the
>> actual capture of the King?
>
>Is there any good reason for playing chess rather than some other game?
>
>Changing the rules would change the game, sometimes considerably.
>For example, stalemate is an important element in analyzing many
>endgames, particularly simple ones.  Why should pepople who play chess
>be willing to play this different game instead?

Fortunately, throughout all of history, people who play chess have been
willing to consider questions like this.  As a result they have changed
the game, and made it better.  Would you rather be playing chess as it
was 600 years ago?  

The reason people who play chess should be willing to *consider* playing
this variant of chess instead is that perhaps it is a better game.

(What they should consider is: IS it?  And then act accordingly).


Justin
sizone!justin@ee.ryerson.ca (Justin Wells)

?
From: U55342@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Re : Lasker at odds
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:40:11 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

In article <14508@mindlink.bc.ca>, Bruce_Harper@mindlink.bc.ca (Bruce Harper)
says:
>
>I believe the actual story involves removal of the Queen's Knight, with Lasker
>telling the confused club champion that the tempo saved for bringing the
>Queen's Rook into the attack was clearly more important than the Knight.  It's
>hard to see how even Lasker could convince someone that a Queen was a
>disadvantage (other than the Bishop-Queen problem, of course...)

Actually this is supposed to be the case if you are playing the Muzio gambit
of the King's Gambit Accepted. I think many theoreticians consider the Muzio
to be a draw in non-odds play, but a win if white gives queen's knight odds
because this allows white to bring the queen's rook into play one tempo
earlier than usual. (I haven't looked at this line of the King's Gambit
in many years, but my best guess of the move order is 1.e4 e5 2.f4 ef 3.Nf3 d6
4.d4 g5 5.Bc4 g4 6.00.)


Does anyone out there in chess-net land know about the Muzio?

                                                       See Ya!
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Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: jhc@ivan.uucp (James H. Coombs)
Subject: Computer Chess Reports, new issue
Reply-To: jhc@iris.brown.edu.uucp (James H. Coombs)
Organization: IRIS - Brown University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:00:53 GMT

I just received Computer Chess Reports, Vol 3, No 1.  24 pages.  $10.99
a year, 2 issues.

I am not going to attempt a complete review.  I will be posting news to
recent threads.  I highly recommend CCR, which you can order from
I.C.D. (800-645-4710).

Contents:

	First Half 1992 Review
	1992 Aegon Tournament
	1992 Harvard Cup
	CRA and WBCA tests at Chicago Int'l
	Excalibur Electronics [ex Fidelity]
	Fidelity Review [loses $3 mill; likely to become Mephisto sales only]
	Mephisto Review [new master-level machine for about $500, etc.]
	Novag Review
	Saitek Review
	Rating the Commercial Chess Computers
	CCR Mid-1992 Ratings List
	PC Program Ratings
	PC Software
	The Capstone Story
	MChess vs. Zarkov [Z is closing the gap; KnightStalker falls behind]
	How Does MChess Do It [very interesting discussion]
	Why Go Pro? [MChess Pro coming for 386 and lots of RAM]
	Bits & Pieces
	The Pawn Shop
	Rate Your Computer (problems)
	Games
	Now It Can Be Told [Fidelity sued I.C.D. in 1985; I.C.D. just won]
	Computer Go Reports
	Who Is Larry? [IM Larry Kaufman]
From: roy@gambit.East.Sun.COM (Roy Brunjes {Systems Eng} Sun Rochester)
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
Subject: Re: Unsound sacrifice?
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:23:21 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Billerica, MA.
NNTP-Posting-Host: gambit.east.sun.com

Charles Blair posted the following:

+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     I had black in an unrated,
| r |///|   |///|   | r | k |///|     but somewhat serious,
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     game.  I played 18...Nxf2,
| p | Q |///|   |///|   | p | p |     as much in desperation
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     as anything else.  The
|   |///|   |///| q |///|   |///|     game ended 19 Kxf2 Rab8
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     20 Qxa7 Rb2+ 21 Kf3 Qg6 0-1.
|///|   |///| p |///| p |///|   |     Was this a sound sacrifice?
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     My computer found the
|   |///|   | P | n |///|   | P |     variation 21 Be2 f4 22 Qa3 fxe3+
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     23 Ke1 Rxe2+ 24 Kxe2 Qg4+,
|///|   |///| B | P |   |///|   |     but it thinks black is
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     losing after 20 Qa6. 
| P |///|   |///|   | P | P |///|     If the sacrifice is unsound,
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     was there a good alternative?
| R |   |///|   | K |   |///| R |     
+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+---+     

My response:

Well, here's what I found using a Mephisto Vancouver 32 bit computer:

18.  ...  f4  Score: -0.54    This was Vancouver's suggested move here.
                              The score indicates that Vancouver "thinks" that
                              Black is losing by about half a pawn.  Not too
                              bad, but hardly winning outright!

After your move: 18 ... Nxf2,

Vancouver comes up with the following line:

19. Kxf2  Score: 2.03    Rab8  Score: -2.27
20. Qa6   Score: 1.90

Note: 20. Qxa7 is not as strong, the protection of the B on e2 is needed;
analysis omitted due to lazy computer operator last night; hey, it was late ...

20. ...                  Rb2+  Score: -2.24
21. Kf3   Score: 1.96    Qf7   Score: -1.87


So, it looks to Vancouver that your sacrifice was not winning, though I can't
say that with certainty that it was "unsound".  The machine is only about 2375
USCF at 40 moves per 2 hours.  You could be a better player and have seen
what the machine might not see for days.  I'm only a 1600 or so player, so
I value the machine's "opinion".

The real blunder by White in your game as played was 21. Kf3.
20. Qxa7 wasn't as good as Qa6 would have been, but 21. Kf3 was much worse
than 21. Be2 (which Vancouver shows as holding for white):

22. Rh3 (better than Qa3, which I believe (going by memory) *did* lose material).
22. ...   Qg4
23. Re1   fe
24. Kg1   Rxe2
25. Rxe2  Qxe2
26. Kh2   Qh5  Score: -0.36 for Black.

Roy

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             those of my employer.

Roy Brunjes                  roy.brunjes@East.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: rec.games.chess
From: Mark Ginsburg <mginsbur@rnd.stern.nyu.edu>
Subject: New Chess Chow!
Organization: Chessnews list (chessnews-request@tssi.com)
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 23:18:14 GMT


It's out, the OLYMPIAD ISSUE!  Purple, controversial; a beautiful
Larry Christiansen photo graces the cover.

If anyone wants a sample, beg John MacArthur at 212 580 0343.

Thanks, 

Mark