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Reply-To:     "D. Glen McPherson" <mcphers@HILBERT.MATHS.UTAS.EDU.AU>
From:         "D. Glen McPherson" <mcphers@HILBERT.MATHS.UTAS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      re: array declarations - thanks for help

To those many sas-l subscribers who offered help with my problem with the
declaration of character arrays, my sincere thanks. I attempted to contact
each of you individually, but had some problems with return addresses in a
significant number of cases. As many of you guessed, the problem was historical
rather than in the current program. I originally made the mistake of assigning
the symbol  .  for missing values instead of  ' '. The result of this mistake
was that the array was automatically treated as a numeric array and the
variables constructed assumed numeric. Even though a subsequent run of the
program included the character declaration of the array, SAS maintained the
numeric status of the variables and hence treated the assigned character
values as errors.

As noted by several people, there is value in explicitly declaring variable
type rather than allowing SAS to infer the type.

Again my thanks to all who offered help.

Glen.

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Reply-To:     Simon Dunkley <sdd@LEICESTER.AC.UK>
From:         Simon Dunkley <sdd@LEICESTER.AC.UK>
Subject:      Syntax-Sensitive Editing for SAS Programs
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SUMMARY:  Mark Riggle's (original OBSERVATION's article)  very nice
          SAS mode for emacs....here are some useful emacs functions
          to go with it.

    Well, we have emacs on our SG mainframe, running IRIX 4.1, here.
Don't think we have the SAS mode for it, though.  Could someone tell
me where I can get a copy, please?

    TIA,

    Simon

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From:         "P. Oldenkamp 5-4481" <oldenkmp@ESPRESSO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      FLOWOVER problem with comma delimited data
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CONTENT:  PROBLEM
REL/PLTF: 6.07/MVS
E-ADDR:   oldenkmp@ESPRESSO.boeing.com
NAME:     Paul OldenKamp
PHONE:    206-865-4481
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Ok, this has got to be simple but I must be having a bad day and am
RTFMing cross eyed.

The user has comma delimited data where some of the data may wrap-around
to the next line.  Here is a simplified example:

data test01;
 length v1-v4 $ 11;
 infile cards delimiter=',' flowover;
 input v1 v2 v3  v4 @@ ;
 cards;
one one,two two,three three,four four,
one one,two two,three three,four
 four,one one,two two,three three,four four,
one one,two two,three three,four four,
;;
run;

proc print;
run;

This produces the following output:

                                 The SAS System    13:18 Monday, August 31, 1992
                                                                               7

        OBS    V1             V2             V3             V4

         1     one one        two two        three three    four four
         2                    one one        two two        three three
         3     four           four           one one        two two
         4     three three    four four                     one one
         5     two two        three three    four four

instead of the desired:
                                 The SAS System    13:18 Monday, August 31, 1992
                                                                               8

             OBS      V1         V2           V3            V4

              1     one one    two two    three three    four four
              2     one one    two two    three three    four four
              3     one one    two two    three three    four four
              4     one one    two two    three three    four four

What am I doing wrong?  How can I read such a file?

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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:45:33 EST
Reply-To:     Anne Liang <GOVE036@TWNMOE10.BITNET>
From:         Anne Liang <GOVE036@TWNMOE10.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: repeat error-checking

Hi, Linda

Thank you for the suggestion.  However, "ace" might be mistyped as "aca"
as possible as "acc". Besides, I am assuming the data is not sorted yet.
What are the possible solutions?

Thanks a lot.

Anne
From: tamara@glia.biostr.washington.edu (tiny t)
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Subject: Re: print dup records
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:00:28 GMT
Organization: Dept Biological Structure-University of Washington

I used PROC COMPARE to find duplicates, and report them. It just
takes a little bit of data processing. Let me know if you want 
more details.

Tamara
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From: shoe@world.std.com (Jack N Shoemaker)
Subject: Re: Syntax-Sensitive Editing for SAS Programming
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:57:18 GMT

Kevin asks:

Can you link the EMACS editor into SAS ... so it fires off emacs instead of DM?

Why use DM?  Use EMACS to edit your SAS programs and batch 'em up.  If you have an editor that you like, then DM buys you practically nil.
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Real Decisions Corporation    Voice: 203-656-1500
Darien, CT  06820          InterNet: shoe@world.std.com

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Reply-To:     "Patrick Brooks" <AZPAB@ASUACVAX.BITNET>
From:         "Patrick Brooks" <AZPAB@ASUACVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Thanks

To  SAS-L folks,

I just want to thank the people that responded to my SAS/PC Assist
problem.  I am sorry that I have been late with this note.

With my job and the other persons, we have have not had a chance to
try out the suggestions.  I am hoping we will get a chance soon.

Thanks again.

Pat Brooks

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 14:16:52 EDT
Reply-To:     Walter Davis <WDAVIS@UNCVM1.BITNET>
From:         Walter Davis <WDAVIS@UNCVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      GAUSS workshop / not SAS-related
Comments: To: "Statistics Discussion List" <STAT-L@MCGILL1.BITNET>

hi all,

apologies for the cross-posting.

I am scheduled to teach a short 2-3 hour introduction to the matrix
programming package GAUSS.  I am wondering if anyone has an outline
for such a course which they would like to share.

thanks in advance,
walt

Walter Davis <WDAVIS@UNCVM1>
Department of Sociology
Institute for Research in Social Science
UNC - Chapel Hill

p.s.  this is not a homework project. :-)
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:40:00 EDT
Reply-To:     G Cary White <CWHITE@UNC.BITNET>
From:         G Cary White <CWHITE@UNC.BITNET>
Subject:      SAS in IBM Clists

Our shop executes SAS in the background using IBM CLISTS.  We allocate
SASLIST and SASLOG to datasets using ALLOC statements in the CLIST.
This method has worked well for us until 6.07.  After the installation
of 6.07,SASLIST output has been appearing on the SASLOG dataset and
SASLIST dataset has been empty.
   Has anyone else had this problem?
   --- Thanks ---
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 23:32:00 CST
From:         JOHNSTONJM@MEMSTVX1.BITNET
Subject:      HARE Query

        I need some help.  I need to be able to use the HARE procedure but
I don't know exactly how it works.  Using the information in the problem
below will someone please provide a clear explanation?  I will really
appreciate the help.
        Here is the specific type of problem I need to be able to solve.
Using the information below can anyone explain how the HARE
 system is used to calculate the winner?

Problem:
        The Department of Law contains 8 faculty members.   Three
faculty members, Professors Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe are
running in an election for Department Chair.  Each faculty member
votes by rank ordering their choice 1 - 3.  The votes are presented
below.
        Explain how the HARE procedure is used to determine the
winner of this election.

                        DEWEY     CHEATHAM       HOWE

Faculty A               1                 2                   3

Faculty B               2                  1                   3

Faculty C               3                   2                  1

Faculty D               1                   2                   3

Faculty E               1                   2                    3

Faculty F               3                   1                    2

Faculty G               2                    3                   1

Faculty H               3                    1                   2

        Again, I would appreciate the help.
                                        John M. Johnston
                                        JohnstonJM@MEMSTVX1
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:52:00 CDT
From:         Bob Kessler <RKESSLER@VAX2.CSTP.UMKC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Information Technology for Teaching and Learning
Comments: To: ERL-L%TCSVM.bitnet@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu

Sandy, I primarily work with ITS's in high schools.  However, I am
familiar with some of the ITS use in higher education.  Mostly ITS's
have been developed for cognitive science research purposes and the
subject matter they deal with is in the areas of math, science and
programming languages.  The people at Carnegie-Mellon University in
Pittsburgh have used tutor's for Lisp, geometry, algebra and pascal,
some in high schools and some at the university level.  If you want
addional information let me know.

Bob Kessler
rkessler@vax2.cstp.umkc.edu
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:11:00 PDT
From:         "National Center for Research in Vocational Edu"
              <NCRVE@UCBCMSA.BITNET>
Subject:      New NCRVE Document

Career Magnets: Interviews with Students and Staff
R.L. Crain, A.L. Heebner, D.R. Kiefer, Y.P. Si
  This document reports on a large ethnographic study of students and
  staff in career magnet schools.  Interviews were focused on finding
  the cause of the success of career magnet schools.  Results show that
  students in the career magnet programs develop a more optimistic
  orientation toward their future as a reult of receiving career
  training.  This document is a companion piece to MDS-173, The
  Effectiveness of New York City's Career Magnet Schools: An Evaluation
  of Ninth Grade Performance Using and Experimental Design.
  MDS-386                                     $6.00

To order:

Send request and/or purchase order to:
   NCRVE Materials Distribution Service
   Western Illinois University
   Horrabin Hall 46
   Macomb, IL  61455

For telephone orders call:  800-637-7652
                            FAX 309-298-2222
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 12:04:00 EST
From:         "ANN FARRELL,
              DEPT.OF MATH & STAT,
              WRIGHT STATE UNIV________________________________________DAYTON,
              OHIO 45435, PH: 513-873-2785" <AFARRELL@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Computer literacy requirments in the United States and Canada
Comments: To: ERL-L%TCSVM.BITNET@OHSTVMA.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU

Wright State University in Ohio requires all students seeking certification in
 elementary or secondary education to take a three-quarter hour course entitled
"Classroom Applications of Technology".  Students are introduced to computer
applications (word processing, data base and spreadsheets), computer courseware
(including selecting and integrating it into lessons), and CD-ROM technology
(we have CD-ROMs for newspapers, science curricula developed with NSF funds, and
 soon we hope to have a CD-ROM of mathematics curricula develped through NSF
projects).

[I hope this arrives in time to add to your survey of computer requirements
for education majors.]

-Ann Farrell
 Dept. of Math. and Stats.
 Wright State University
 Dayton, Ohio  45435
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:41:30 EDT
From:         Sandy Grant <ABSG%MUSICA@TSCC.MACARTHUR.UWS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Information Technology for Teaching and Learning
Comments: To: erl-l@vm.tcs.tulane.edu

I am currently looking at ways in which computers can/are being used in
higher education (teaching,learning,research,administration) with
particular emphasis on computer-assisted learning and expert systems,
computer-enhanced learning, the computer as a productivity tool,
computer-mediated communications. Also, the possible implications of
computer use for, inter alia, curriculum design, teaching methods, the
quality of student learning, institutional management.  This will
provide the basis for a one semester course for academics.

Any information/ideas greatly appreciated. Please do not feel
constrained by this list.

Sandy Grant,University of Western Sydney, Macarthur,Australia
S.Grant@UWS.EDU.AU
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:54:16 CDT
From:         EN01000 <EN01@SIUEMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      reading in German primary schools

I'm looking for contacts in Germany who know about how German
children learn to be literate--what do kindergartens and primary
grade teachers generaly generally do, and what happens in state-of-
the art primary schools?  Are there any lab schools or demonstration
schools I could visit?  Is there such a thing as a whole language
first grade?  How much does early literacy education vary by
state?  What universities are concerned with early literacy
Unterrichtspraxis?
Please respond to me personally--not on the neet.nt NET.
Carolyn Andrews-Beck   en)1
EN01@SIUEMUS.BITNET
Thank you!
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 05:14:00 EST
Reply-To:     "TRACY LOGAN, LAFAYETTE COLLEGE,
              EASTON PA" <LOGANT@LAFAYETT.BITNET>
From:         "TRACY LOGAN, LAFAYETTE COLLEGE,
              EASTON PA" <LOGANT@LAFAYETT.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: EcoFridge (letter from Germany)

I thot this info, from a letter written Monday, would be of interest, as it is
surely current:
>
>Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 12:06:00 +0200
>From: Klaus Thielking <k.thielking@link-njd.nbg.sub.org>
>
>  Here is a very positive message: in Germany, there were about 65.000
>  orders of the machine during the weeks of promotion.
>
>  The dkk Scharfenstein won't be shut down. This is the result of
>  the promotion that Greenpeace made for this new machine. The
>  Treuhandanstalt, which is governmental owner of all the ex-GDR-firms
>  decided *not* to close it before end of 1993 - until that date new
>  investors should be found - and some new have already announced their
>  interest. I believe, this sounds very good for the
>  future of the Greenfreezer.

Anyone know anything about this barrier?
>  The dkk is trying to get the permission for trading this machine into the
>  US. But at first, they have to fulfill the US-technical-laws, which are
>  different from the german.

I was impressed to see how well-informed and -connected Klaus
was, with respect to sources in the US or available here.  Bodes
well for progress towards eco-sanity:

>   There are already some interesting english-
>   languaged conferences, where you can find some information, too,
>   e.g. the EcoNet-Conference en.climate or (but i am not sure) the
>   UseNet-conference sci.environment. When you have no access to EcoNet,
>   you can contact support@igc.org (if this doesn't work, please contact
>   Lelani Arris (larris@igc.org) for information).

                  -- tracy
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From: baron@cattell.psych.upenn.edu (Jonathan Baron)
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Subject: Re: Industrial Society, Objectives of Society
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:36:41 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Terence Sommerville makes some interesting points about the
uselessness of much of "the economy" in meeting important human
needs.  I have often though that what we have arrived at (in
"developed" societies) is a situation in which a great frenzy of
economic activity produces luxury automobiles, lawn-care
services, expensive perfumes, fashions (as distinct from
clothing), etc., but, as a BI-PRODUCT, ALSO insures that
relatively few people are starving or homeless, that good and
nutritious food is widely available, that literacy is widespread,
and that medical care has advanced to the point at which people
EXPECT their children to survive to adulthood.  One wonders
whether there is a way to generate the benefits without all the
junk, which does, as noted, have plenty of negative environmental
side-effects.

Economics has largely given up on this problem because of its
assumption of consumer sovereignty: that what people are willing
to pay for is what constitutes their good.  Largely, but not
entirely.  Some economists (Scitovsky, for example, and others I
have read but cannot find the names of now) have asked seriously
how we can measure human good so that we can have a guide for
making tradeoffs of the sort that will have to be made even in
Utopia.  For example, I have seen discussions of the idea of
correcting GNP for environmental losses and for purchases that
are required because of prior adjustments to scarcity.  But this
still doesn't take the problem of true vs. false values into
account.

Although I agree with Somerville that (in essence) poetry is
better than pushpin, I think that what we need is a way of
justifying this judgment to those who prefer pushpin (despite its
negative effects on the environment), or perhaps even getting
them to reflect and change their judgment.  What worries me is
the prospect of a war of values in which each side simply asserts
that its values are better than those of the other side, without
providing sufficient reason for the other side to consider
changing.  I know that there is a lot of writing that purports to
address questions like this (e.g., Sagoff, "The economy of the
earth"), but I have not found anything really helpful yet.  I
would appreciate suggestions.

But perhaps wholesale changes in values are not required to solve
the major environmental problems, because the major effects of
global warming, ozone depletion, deforestation, and erosion of
farmland (for example) threaten everyone, regardless of their
values.  If any change in thinking is needed, it might have less
to do with giving up materialism than with being willing to
cooperate on measures that will help (the Montreal Protocol being
the most promising example to date).

Jon Baron
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list short
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Subject:      BIOSPH-L

     Please send me information on BIOSPH-L group
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