HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Commodore Offers Special Pricing on A3000T-040
Date: 21 Dec 92 12:56:24 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB
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sue@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com (Sue West - CATS) writes:
: Commodore Announces Special Pricing on A3000T-040
: 
: (West Chester, PA --- December 17, 1992) --- Commodore's A3000T-040
: with a 200 MB hard disk and 5 MB of RAM is being offered at the
: special price of $2875.00. (U.S.)

Well, it beats the previously announced price of $5,995...

: All Amiga 3000T and Amiga 3000T-040 CPUs currently shipping in the
: U.S. are configured to accept the MC68040 processor.

How about a really good price on 68040 cards to us developers (and
others) that already have an A3000T-030?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: sjchmura@kimbark.uchicago.edu (steven joseph chmura)
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Reply-To: sjchmura@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 06:40:25 GMT

In article <C03vrC.79J@NeoSoft.com> peter@NeoSoft.com (Peter da Silva) writes:
>In article <1992Dec29.221442.7137@pro-freedom.cts.com> eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown) writes:
>> > But as for CD-ROM being THE future, that's bologna.
>
>> Why does this remind me of the comments made by a past president of I.B.M.?
>
>Read-write mini-CDs hit the market this year. They're going to destroy
>casettes.
Well, yeah, since the price of the players is sooooo cheap :)

>
>Read-write full-size CDs will show up pretty soon. They will be compatible with
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
They do exist in labs in Chicago :)
>read-only CDs (the players will play conventional CDs, but the read-write
>CDs probably won't play in conventional players).
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
With the estimated cost of these things in the thousands, the incompatibility
of the recorded CD's, and the price of the medium, don't you think that
future is far off?  For the masses, are they really going to here a difference
between cheap DCC/MiniDiscs and expensive (not to mention huge)
recordable 5.25" CD's?
>
>Say bye-bye to your steam-powered horseless carriage. CD-ROM is a transition
>technology.

Well, then so is chemotherapy.  But it is the best we have at a price
we can afford :(

>-- 
>Peter da Silva.  <peter@sugar.neosoft.com>.
> `-_-'   Oletko halannut suttasi tnn?
>  'U`    
>Tarjoilija, tm ateria el viel.


-- 
________________________________________________________________________________Steven Chmura				University of Chicago Medical School(M1)
  "Given enough time, the impossible becomes probable, and the probable
	inevitable.."  -George Wald, "On the Origins of Life"
From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Pictures to present
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 15:33:54 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>          Hello, sorry if this is not the right place...
>
>          I am preparing a multimedia slide show about weather using
>          my 2000 at a local school.  Great way to show off Amiga
>          capabilities as well!  I need some computer pictures to use.
>          I received some help from wx-talk people but I need more.  I
>          need iff or gif or pcx pictures.  I plan to use AmigaVision
>          in hi-res interlace 640x400.  I need a picuture that if a
>          child looks at it and I ask what season is this, he/she will
>          say FALL.  I need same for SPRING.  I need pictures, can be
>          scenery, wildlife etc tgat have nice puffy cumulus clouds,
>          wispy cirrus (mares tails). and layerd clouds.  A dark rain
>          clould or thunder head would be great!
>
>          Thats all I need to complete my collection.  Any else you
>          have I'd like to see.  I can send you disks, or if the
>          pictures can be FTPed, we can do that too.
>
>          Thanks in advance for any help!
>
>          -Ira

Do you have or have access to a CDTV or a CD ROM drive? If so, 
you might consider buying Walnut Creek CDROM's "GIFs Galore" CD.
It's $24.95. It has over 6000 GIFs of *all* description on it including
many landscapes and "travel" and nature pictures, mostly
640x480x256 colors. An absolute cornucopia of pics which you can
use in zillions of ways. 

If interested, contact them at 1-800-786-9907 or 1-510-947-5996.
And/or see my article about this CD in the latest issue of AVID 
magazine. 

I'm not affiliated in any way with Walnut Creek CD ROM.

Harv
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Date: 1 Jan 93 07:54:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1993Jan1.005452.7213
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

> Say bye-bye to your steam-powered horseless carriage. CD-ROM is a
> transition technology.

Now this is a BIG laugh!  Can you name *anything* that is NOT a "transition
technology"?  No, I didn't think so.



        -=- Ed

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: hens@prl.philips.nl (Patrick Hens 44223)
Subject: .zom extension
Organization: none
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 07:32:41 GMT

What kind of file has a .zom extension?

Thanks in advance.

Patrick Hens.
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Date: 29 Dec 92 06:14:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Dec28.231433.7099
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


> One interesting point that comes from an article in the January '93 Amiga
> Format:
> 
> "Commodore have already pointed out to us that, to them, the cost of
putting
> a CD drive in a machine would be roughly equivalent to putting a floppy
> drive in."


If they'd said "hard drive" instead of "floppy drive", I'd be tempted to
believe them.  As stated, however, it looks pretty silly.  Check out the
prices in computer shopper for Hard drives, CDROM drives, and floppy
drives.  CDROM drives are at least 6x more expensive than floppy drives and
similarly priced to smaller but much faster HDs.  Sure, CBM can buy in bulk
but so what?  Floppy drives bought in bulk would be pretty cheap too, so
the relative cost should stay the same... at least 6x more expensive than a
floppy drive.


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From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
Subject: Re: photo cd routines now on
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: comp
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 21:40:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec26.4247.24427@dosgate> "grant robinson" <grant.robinson@canrem.com> writes:
>-> Loathe as I am to agree with him, and puzzled as I am
>-> that he keeps slipping through my kill file, Mr. Barrett
>-> is right for the second time in his life.
>
>C= is going to come out with CD-Rom so the whole point is really moot.

   Is it?  Commodore has been very quiet on the isuue of **AMIGA** (not CDTV)
CD-ROM.  When I posted my "CDTV is dead" article, a hundred Commodore engineers
came out of the woodwork to attempt to correct me.  The same thing happened
when I posted my "Is AmigaVision dead?" article.  But hardly anything has been
from people at Commodore on the issue of **AMIGA** (not CDTV) CD-ROM.

   What I want from Commodore is an Amiga desktop computer system as much like
the Tandy Sensation as possible, minus the modem.  CDTV CD-ROM technology will
not be acceptable, because it would be geared toward the low-end, and the
Sensation is a high-end product.

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From: Aric.Caley@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: IDEA->Macro prog w/j
Date: 26 Dec 92 13:11:02 GMT
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992

> Organization: Flying Cat, Inc.
> From: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
> Message-ID: <38139@cbmvax.commodore.com>
> Reply-To: andy@cbmvax.commodore.com (Andy Finkel)
> Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
>
> Actually, as long as you are running the background program 'conclip',
> which is supplied with 2.04 and is started by default in the startup-
> sequence,
> the shell copy/paste uses the Amiga system clipboard.  Other programs
> that can use the clipboard (VLT, MicroEmacs, Baby!, etc) can get and
> put the text you clipped.

BTW, why is Conclip a separate program?  And the same goes for IPrefs?  Why
weren't they integrated into the Shell/Workbench?

>              andy
>
> --
> andy finkel           andy@cbmvax.commodore.com
>
> "Unix is the Operating System of the future, and always will be."
>
> Any expressed opinions are mine; but feel free to share.
> I disclaim all responsibilities, all shapes, all sizes, all colors.

 -Dances With Coyotes - World's slowest programer-Given that God is infinate-
 -AKA Dances V2.0, Coyote, Critter, Magnet, Major-and  that  the universe is-
 -- Former Net-Lurker - YES, an AMIGA godammit! --also  infinate,  would you-
 --- Still limping along with AmigaOS 1.3  :(  ---like a toasted  tea  cake?-


--- Maximus 2.01wb
From: clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Need 15Khz monitor? HELP!!!!!
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 17:10:18 EST
Distribution: world 
Organization: Private UUCP "Twig" Node
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00

In article <C06y0C.DuD@agora.rain.com>, Joe Bob writes:

> In article <1992Dec28.091128.1@oread.cc.ukans.edu> dseaman@oread.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> >In a month or two I plan to get an a1200 or a4000. I know that VERY
> >few non-commodore monitors support the 15Khz screen modes. 
> 
> 
>   Actually, quite a few non-Commodore monitors do.
> 

        Yes, but many are out of production now.  The NEC 3FG (last to do
15kHz) is gone, the Sony CPD-1302 is gone, the TTX is gone ad infinitum. 
My friend has been looking and there aren't any options as far as we can
find short of getting a hold of an out of production monitor.  BTW, I'm
talking MULTISYNC here, not just any old CGA monitor.

--
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 clemon@lemsys.UUCP clemon%lemsys@xenitec.on.ca  | 1B Electrical Engineering
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From: hellerS@moravian.edu (sjh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Need EPSON LQ-860 driver
Keywords: Printer Driver Epson LQ-860
Date: 30 Dec 92 01:53:05 GMT

I need the Epson LQ860 driver, or any other which is equivalent to work in
B&W and COLOR with the Panasonic KX-P2124 printer w/color option. 

If anyone has this driver, or a reasonable facsimilily, PLEASE tell me how I
can obtain it! UUencoded is fine (via email), or ftp'd to any Internet site
is acceptable as well (with proper destination directory, of course). 

Email appreciated on this issue if you have something to suggest @
	hellerS@moravian.edu
		or
	music@moravian.edu

	Many advanaced thanks, and Happy New Year!!!

Steve Heller
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD
Date:  3 Jan 93  7:32:30 GMT 
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

> It wouldn't cost much more to make a CD-ROM interface than it would to
make
> a  Floppy  disk  interface.

Isn't this the same interface that CBM decided not to make available on the
A4000, preferring instead to offer the cheap IDE system?  Personally, I
can't wait to see which is offered with the A4000T.  ;-)


> The *drives* may cost more for CD-ROM than for
> Floppy  disk;  although  when buying them in large quantities the price
may
> come very close.

I can see where this might be the case someday but it seems a ways off yet.
Yes, audio CDROM can be made and sold pretty cheap but so far, computer
CDROM seems considerably more expensive.  At their cheapest, I've seen the
slow Mitsumi CDROM drives selling for $189 and the 1.44 meg floppy drives
going for $50.  Floppy interfaces for a PC cost $9.  Can't say what the
Amiga floppy interface sells for as it is not a separately available part
but I suspect that it costs more than this.  We still have almost a 4:1
cost ratio between the cheapest available drives, CDROM:floppy.  While this
is better than 6 or 8:1, it is still nowhere near a point that CBM would
find attractive.  Remember that CBM tends not to think of single units but
in multiples of 1,000,000 units... save $1/unit and you've got an extra
million dollars you didn't have before.  This is the mentality that gave us
IDE instead of SCSI, even though most of us recognize the inherent
superiority of SCSI when compared to IDE.  IDE has basically *1* primary
benefit... it's CHEAP.  Now, looking at this situation, do you still
contend that CDROM drives and floppy drives are similar in cost?  Sorry. I
just can't see it... at least at this time.  In 5 years, who knows.


Regards,


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: val@news.ccutah.edu (Val Kartchner)
Subject: Re: Minimum Room Temperature for an Amiga
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 20:35:21 GMT

cobra@coyote.datalog.com (Ken Thompson) writes:
: kroener@cs.uni-sb.de (Thomas Kroener) writes:
: 
: > One question: What is the minimum room temperature for an Amiga-User 
: > to work :-) ???                                                 ^^^^
: 
:  
: Gee, is this while using an Amiga (which the answer is now known to be 
: 5C), or while doing something else?  :-D

What is the minum room temperature in which an Amiga can reliably be stored?
I've had an Amiga in a cold room recently not be able to read any disks.
What temperature should the room be to keep this from happening?  Anyone
from Commodore know the answer to this one?
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From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Snapshot (was Re: ENHANCEMENTS: C= Please consider this)
Date: 21 Dec 92 14:36:09 GMT
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology

In article <1992Dec19.050917.22137@en.ecn.purdue.edu> bevis@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Jeff Bevis) writes:
>In article <hebrais.0yb6@mirkwood.CAM.ORG> hebrais@mirkwood.CAM.ORG (Philippe Hebrais) writes:
>>I have only two gripes about the amiga's icons and windows.  Like
>>many other Amiga users, I dislike the Macs handling of icons.  I like
>
>No kidding!  Have you ever used the Mac's "clean up" option to rearrange
>icons in a window.  I liken this option to a "devastate window" function.
>I've never seen it bring order to a window.  In fact, it usually takes
>a window full of non-overlapping objects and causes them to overlap in 
>an erratic, confusing and displeasing way.  It's so good at it, too.
>Neat.  :-)
>
>-bevis

  I like the Amiga "Snapshot" option because it "child-proofs"
  my Workbench.  My two-year-old can drag and drop icons everywhere
  but since he doesn't know enough to go and "Snapshot-All", I
  get everything back.  He also doesn't know how to go to the
  menu-bar and "Empty Trash", so even if something gets dragged
  into the Trash-Can, it's not deleted.

  I believe on a Mac, he'd really devastate the windows.

  Clare
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz (John Davis)
Subject: Re: Viruschecker current version?
Reply-To: davis@chem.canterbury.ac.nz
Organization: Chem Dept, Uni of Canty, Chch, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:30:18 GMT

Christopher L. Davis (cld@wucs1.wustl.edu) wrote:
> Hello.  What is the current version of Viruschecker?   I thought I saw mention
> 	of a 6.20 somewhere, but the latest version I can find is 6.15.  I
> 	checked wuarchive, hubcap etc and can't seem to find anything.  

I put 6.20 (the current release from john veldthuis) on amiga.physik.unizh.ch
early last week, and sites such as wuarchive _should_ have mirrored it by
now. If all else fails, head for unizh

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject:  ARexx Cookbook
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 14:49:43 GMT


  Hi, I'm thinking of getting more into ARexx and
  was wondering how good the ARexx Cookbook by
  Merrill Calloway is.  Is it worth it?  Are
  the disks worth it, or can you just type in the
  stuff from the book?

  Any comments appreciated...

  Thanks, Clare
  clare@nynexst.com
From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: TurboText Version Number
Date: 3 Jan 93 07:05:00 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

I was curious, I pulled out my TurboText original Disk and manual the other
day to re-install it(trashed my boot drive.. ugh)  And my version is 1.0a, I
was wondering if there have been any new releases since then, and if so, how
do i go about upgrading.

Thanks..

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Subject: Re: Byte A4000/A3000T-040 Review
Date: 30 Dec 92  5:05:33 GMT 
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


> With a dealer nearby you could collect all your expansion boards and have 
> them put in in one shot.  Most dealers would probably charge $30 or so to 
> do it.


Sounds good on paper.  Unfortunately, most of us add boards slowly, over
time... and don't have a big pile of boards to install all at once.



        -=- Ed


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From: nudd@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Nai Ying Kwok)
Subject: Wanted: File Recovery Prog
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 02:52:52 GMT

Hey dudes,

Can someone gimme an ftp site where I can get a file recovery proggy?
The only one I can find at the moment is RecoverII.  Is that the best
one to use?  Remember, I have a WB1.3 machine...

I accidentally wiped darkseed off my HD and I DON'T want to have to
reinstall it all over again...

Nudd
From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: QUESTION: Do I wait for 3.1 or get 2.04??????????
Distribution: world
Date: 2 Jan 93 19:03:32 EDT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

"can I run 3.0 off floppy?  
  Guess what I'n running my 1200 off.  However -- the 3.0 Amiga Operating
System floppy diskette is in a format which a 1.3 machine cannot read. 
Before I hooked up my old 1010 to the 1200 so that I could write with the
machine (the internal drive grundging any diskette it attempted to write
to......), I tried to use the 500 to copy the new disk - and the 500 didn't
recognize the disk as being an Amiga dik.  3.0 can format diskettes in
several different ways:  the OFS old file system used by 1.3, the NFS new
file system used by 2.0 and 2.1, a cached disk format recognized only by
system 3 machines, and an international format which I'd have to look up in
the Workbench manual (I want an AmigaDOS manual!  Why oh why did Commodore
make the inane decision to NOT include an AmigaDOS manual, ARexx manual,
and hard drive install support with ALL 1200s!  It's an example of the sort
of thing that inspires people to buy their computers from some other
company.....) as to whether it works only with operating system 3 machines,
or with machines running version 3.x as well.


-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD
Date: 1 Jan 93 08:11:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1993Jan1.011144.7213
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)

> Perhaps  they meant in terms of the cost of implementing the design and
> the interface?   That  is,  it  wouldn't  cost  much more to implement a
> CD-ROM interface than it would a floppy interface.

I haven't got the faintest clue as to what this means.  Could you rethink
it and resend.  Thanks.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
Subject: Re: Reasons for Amiga CD-ROM
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 05:11:56 GMT

In article <1hqcs4INN4tb@pith.uoregon.edu> ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles) writes:
>   In the near-term, CD-ROM will be a solution to ever-increasing game sizes.
>Productivity software will never lead the way in making CD-ROM widely
>accepted - they simply don't use that much storage (example: Willy Beamish
>CD-ROM used approximately 150MB of storage space). 
>   But as for CD-ROM being THE future, that's bologna. Sheer marketing hype.
>CD-ROM is nothing more than a short-term solution to a long-term problem.
>CD-ROM is expensive, both in terms of development (ie: burners)

   CD-ROM disks don't cost much more to manufacture than audio CDs.  And audio
CDs cost next to nothing to manufacture.  For example, a recent issue of an
audio magazine includes two audio CDs "free", for the $3.95 cover price of the
magazine. 

> and also to
>the consumer (ie: $400-500 just to hear a game talk to them).

   CD-ROM drives are slowly coming down in price.  I have seen Mac CD-ROM 
drives advertized for $400, and Mac hardware is always a bit overpriced.  The
fact that Tandy and Commodore are able to put CD-ROM drives into their VIS and
CDTV products and still sell them for less than $700 shows that the CD-ROM
drives must have already come down in price quite a bit.

> It is not the
>answer to all of our problems. It is a current solution to those who are
>willing to pay for it, but take over the world it will not.

   I don't pay much attention to hype, contrary to what people believe.  I
just don't think 1.3 Gigabytes of potential inexpensive storage can be 
dismissed very easily.  Yes, I said 1.3 Gigabytes.  There is no particular 
reason why CD-ROM discs cannot be double-sided.  They are single-sided now
because the extra storage is not needed.

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