HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: davids@coos.dartmouth.edu (David S. Cohen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth - Getting the "dirty" version"
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:17:00 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu (Griffy) writes:

>In article <1992Jul28.154340.2032@athena.cs.uga.edu>, houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul28.143646.389@msc.cornell.edu> rob@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Rob Vaughn,302 Thurston Hall,50637,2730428) writes:
>>>
>>>Has anyone who bought the "non-dirty" version checked to see if the graphic
>>>is still there, but covered by the grey opaque CD tray?  You'd have to remove
>>>it to get to the back insert.

well, the station i work at was sent both copies (promotional, of course, so 
that does mean that things _could_ be different in retail) and the "non-dirty"
version did not have the picture behind the cd tray.



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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cradle@wam.umd.edu (Dave Eisner)
Subject: Re: Too Much F*cking Joy
Keywords: Too Much Joy
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:15:02 GMT

In article <berthiau.712429801@iros1> berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Andre Berthiaume) writes:
>Alright, I know this might have been asked some time ago, but since 
>it's been some time I figure I'd ask anyways! :)
>
>Does anyone have any idea what TMJ is up to lately? Are they recording?
>Are they still doing gigs in some areas?  Does anyone have some more
>
>
>Eva
>bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu or
>ec1t@nike.cheme.cmu.edu

I don't have much information, but I did see them perform at the
'HFStival (an outdoor festival sponsored by a local radio station, WHFS)
on July 10th.  They were pretty good.  


			--Dave Eisner
			  cradle@wam.umd.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: wcsvic@alfred.carleton.ca (Victor Kamutzki)
Subject: Re: Alternative??????
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:25:45 GMT

Vasilii.V.Petrenko@dartmouth.edu (Vasilii V. Petrenko) writes:

>I'm pretty fermilliar with the alternative bands but here's just a
>question.  How would you classify The Cure?

Top 40 alternateen pop.  I saw them on the Prayer Tour a few years
back, mostly because the Pixies and Love And Rockets opened for them.
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From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rap,alt.thrash
Subject: Re: Body Count: "Cop Killer" removed from album
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:13:08 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <1992Jul29.042153.3235@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick) writes:

>Death threats from police officers.

This isn't really true. Time-Warner and Ice-T cited anonymous death
threats as one reason for the decision. (source: NBC News, 7-28)

You might be able to speculate that police officers were involved but
there isn't any proof.

-Thumper
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From: troch@gandalf.Rutgers.EDU (Rod Troch)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: What song is this from and who sings it?
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:03:26 GMT
Organization: Right Coast HQ For Stupid Pub Tricks


A friend of mine sent me the following quote with the task of figuring
out what song it is from and who sings it.  I am not even sure if
it comes from an alternative band.  But I figured I will start here.

She is testing me.  I think she knows the answer.  I will give you
full credit if you help me answer.  Thanks.

Here is the quote:
"If you could see the you that I see when I see you seeing me you'd
see yourself so differently.  Believe me."
Thats it!

The first part makes me think of fIREHOSE.  A few of their songs
have a lot of double negatives and round about references.  But I
am pretty sure it is not fIREHOSE.

Help me out.

:-)
Rod
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From: bjr@oddjob.uchicago.edu (Bernie Rauscher)
Subject: Re: Re: Electric Ferrets? (was Oh No! It's MAINSTREAM!)
Organization: University of Chicago, Astronomy and Astrophysics
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:37:34 GMT

malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes):
> Oh wow, an Electic Ferrets fan?  Someone who's actually heard of the obscure
> Penn State garage/attic band of the early 80's who moved on to become a punk
> band in Los Angeles? Or are you talking about the other Electric Ferrets band
> I've heard of, from Australia or something?

Actually, I made it up. The "Raging" and "From Hell" came from a band I've
never actually heard, but with a memorable name: "The Raging Ayatollahs from
Hell". The "Electric Ferrets" part came from the Electic Ferrets from
Pennsylvania. I don't know anything about them other than they made one
7" single with a memorable name and a fairly catchy tune.
I put it all together to make "The Raging Electric Ferrets from Hell" to 
function as an obscure band name in a post that was actually about something
altoghter different.
From: Vasilii.V.Petrenko@dartmouth.edu (Vasilii V. Petrenko)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Alternative??????
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:13:19 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

I'm pretty fermilliar with the alternative bands but here's just a
question.  How would you classify The Cure?  Also, does anyone know if
Anything Box has more that one album?
                                -Karen Reed




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From: brian@mik.uky.edu (Brian hoffman)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: _Power, Corruption & Lies_
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:19:45 GMT
    <1992Jul30.191244.26693@cco.caltech.edu>
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

In <1992Jul30.191244.26693@cco.caltech.edu> rmm@colman.ipac.caltech.edu (Mike Melnyk) writes:

>>I've got New Order's _Power, Corruption & Lies_ on cassette from the 
>>Factory label...the one with all of the cryptic markings. I've figured 
>>out what the colored squares and rectangles along the edges mean, but I've
>>got no ideas about the colored circle or markings on the cassette itself.
>>Supposedly, they should mean something.  Can anyone help?

>Yes, I can help. The color wheel on the back is the encryption key to
>decoding the color squares and rectangles along the edges. Each slice of
>the color wheel represents and alphanumeric character - as I recall the
>slices run in order, i.e., A - Z, then 0 - 9. Using this key, the color
>squares on the outside spell of the record ID: "FAC ??" (I don't remember
>the number). The color squares on the sleeve inside spell out "NEW ORDER"
>and "POWER CORRUPTION AND LIES". Neat trick, huh?

>This color wheel can be used to decode the similar color squares on the
>12'' sleeve of "Blue Monday".
  Rolling Stone magazine had a special issue featuring the 100 best album
covers of all time, of which PC_L was one.  They explained the whole code
thing in the little article that went with it...you may want to dig that up
if you're really interested.
-Brian
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: homulka@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Thomas Homulka)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins next album?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:19:39 GMT

I don't think the Cocteau Twins have broken up.  However, I recall reading a
little tidbit in NME about a month or so ago that the Cocteau Twins have moved
(or are moving soon) to their new recording studio with (the thing that
puzzled me) their new label.  (So I think they're still together although they
may be moving from homebase 4AD).  I don't have the article here, but I'll
check the magazine and report back if anyone's interested.

Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: cottle@b11.b11.ingr.com (Tim Cottle)
Subject: Re: Songs that mention T-Rex
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:32:52 GMT


In article <1992Jul24.072935.175@midway.uchicago.edu>, lclayton@uhuru.uchicago.edu (Liz Clayton) writes:
> I can think of THREE songs offhand that mention the band "T-Rex".  They are:
> 
> Mott The Hoople, "All The Young Dudes"
> The Ramones, "Rock and Roll Radio"  (I think..can anyone confirm this?)
> The Who, "You Better You Bet"
> 

There's another one out there with the line "I need TV but all I've got's
T-Rex".  I can't remember the title or the group--it's been too long.




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From: sut@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Secure Unix Team KID01)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: the Inspiral Carpets
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:17:42 GMT
Organization: ICL Bracknell, UK

In article <1992Jul20.104340.7658@vax.oxford.ac.uk> operator@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Jul15.070723.19688@cco.caltech.edu>, jcc@cco.caltech.edu (Julian C. Chen) writes:
>> Howdy,
>> 
>> I'm a regular reader of this newsgroup, and I am a fan of the Inspiral Carpets.
>> I own both of their full length releases, and I'm wondering when their new
>> album will be coming out.
>> Also, if there are any other fans out there, I'd like to hear some reviews of
>> their albums and any other information that you might be able to provide.
>
>I saw them at Reading Festival 1990, headlining on the Saturday and they were
>awesome. Thousands of sweaty bodies leaping around singing "This is how it
>feels" in unison, a light show to rival the best, coming at nightfall at the end
>of a sweltering summer's day. You shoudda bin therr.
>

What about the dancing cow, and the marching band?! And the fireworks?

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From: houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Lollapalooza III Wish List
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:50:54 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

Here's my Lollapalooza III wish list:

Pavement
the Gories
Superchunk
Sebadoh
Kicking Giant
the Fall
Fugazi
My Bloody Valentine (requisite euro-dance)

Needless to say this'll never happen... :)

Note: no - I didn't include any rap bands. I don't like the idea of being
      patronizing, which is what the inclusion of Ice-T last year and Ice
      Cube this year basically was. Yes, I do like rap. No flames unless
      you're really thick-skulled...

BTW: It's entirely possible that I might be able to go to this year's show.
     For free. Should I go just to make fun of everybody? (Or at least to
     spread the indie gospel (satire, folks!) to everyone I can...?)

Joshua Houk
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From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: The Moles
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 01:33:04 GMT


there's also an EP from them called "Tendrils & Paracetamol" on Waterfront/Seaside
records.

I think they're still playing/together etc.  Fairly low profile at the moment 
though.....unless someone in Sydney can let us know otherwise (Andrew R?)

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
From: dap@portal.vpharm.com (David A. Pearlman)
Subject: Re: New Thread (was Re: Songs that mention other groups)
Organization: Vertex Pharmaceuticals, Inc.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 21:57:45 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.134852.2576@walter.cray.com> huot@cray.com (Tom Huot) 
writes:
>WILL THERE EVER BE AN END TO THESE INANE THREADS?
>

I have an idea: 

What are your top ten favorite threads in this newsgroup?

Here are mine to start:

10) Top ten songs that mention fruit in the title but are actually about
    fishing.

9) Top three songs by dead guys with four octive ranges.

8) Top five ways that Al Jorgensen of Ministry died before he recorded his
   new album.

7) Top six most bitchin' haircuts in heavy metal.

6) Top ten ways to get out of your obligation to a record club even after
   agreed to their terms because, well, you just don't like them much.

5) Top ten reasons that Geddy Lee doesn't want anyone to know he has a
   Ph.D. in astrophysics and so lies and says he didn't finish high school.

4) Top thirty guesses at what the lyrics are to Nirvana's "Smells Like Teen
   Spirit".

3) Top ten concerts that absolutely sucked because I didn't get tickets to
   them.

2) Top ten arrests on Axl Rose's rap sheet.

1) Top ten lists of top ten lists.



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From: M Maxwell
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Spacemen3, Spiritualized, etc.
Date: 24 Jul 1992 18:10:35 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: irpsws80.ucsd.edu

A couple of days ago (Tues, i think) someone posted asking for
information about Spacemen3 and Spiritualized, et. al.  I lost
your email address, so could you mail me, please.  Thanks.

(PS: i might be able to help you out.)
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mmaxwell@ucsd.edu

Hey you kids!  Don't touch that, it's ART! 

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From: Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rap,alt.thrash,alt.censorship
Subject: Re: Body Count: "Cop Killer" removed from album
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:15:15 GMT
 <1992Jul29.175435.21507@bradley.bradley.edu>  
 <1992Jul30.171415.19114@cs.tulane.edu>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Jul30.171415.19114@cs.tulane.edu>
hernande@cs.tulane.edu (Oliver Hernandez) writes:

>     Sorry, but I don't think this "Ice-T" stuff is appropiate to cross-post
> to alt.music.alternative.  Please edit your Newsgroups line and deleted alt.
> music.alternative from the others.  Thank you.
> 

Please DON'T edit out a.m.a.  And please don't be so critical, Mr.
Hernandez.  Body Count (as well as Ice-T) is about as far out of the
mainstream as any other popular alternative artist.  If you don't like
reading about it, kill the thread.  There's no justification for asking
for a thread's removal because some readers don't like it.  If there
were, DIDs and Lolla 3 would have been annihilated last week. 

 - nathan
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: hernande@cs.tulane.edu (Oliver Hernandez)
Subject: Re: Cocteau Twins info please...
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:12:37 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-29201]: okeanos

In article <1992Jul23.034609.26504@news.Hawaii.Edu> saiki@mpg.phys.hawaii.edu (Its just me..) writes:
>Someone had mentioned that most of the songs are instrumental.
>I found only Victorialand to be that way.  The rest of the albums
>are pretty lyrical.  + I may be wrong but I am pretty sure I about
>reading an article on Creem [with huge pics of the band] that
>interviews CT [Elizabeth].  There something written about all the
>lyrics being in some foreign language or random syllables...her
>reply to that was that she sings [all?] in English but stresses
>and separates words at odd or opposite [stress when there is no
>stress in spoken English..etc] times.
>
>This is just from memory...and it feels like a really distant one,
>like last Spring-ish.
>
>Correct me if I am wrong...
>
>Lauri
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    Well, you're not the only person who's posted about the Cocteau Twins
and mentioned that Elizabeth F. really does sing in English, but that she
pronounces the words wierd.  An example that someone gave was if we would
say "We go to McDonalds to eat," (something like that) Liz would sing it as
"Weg otomc don alds toeat."  Since I've read that post and have listened to
the CT, I can buy that that's what Liz sings.  When yoiu listen carefully,
you can make out some understandable words, and the lyrics don't really
sound like some randomly made up mumbo-jumbo.  This may be true for their
recordings, but I cannot say the same for their live performances.  I saw
the CT in concert last spring, and it was very obvious that Liz was just
mumbling and chanting words to sing, but her voice was still beautiful
(and so was She, I might add.  She came out as a very petite and feminine
woman, not overweight as I expected from their videos).  AAAANYWAY, just
thought that you or any other Cocteau Twins fans out there might be inte-
rested in my obervations.
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From: hamdan@iti.gov.sg (Outlander)
Subject: Help..[Pop Art]
Originator: hamdan@atlas.iti.gov.sg
Keywords: hardcore garage-rock
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, S'pore
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:46:35 GMT


Hi,

I'm new at this but I need info on the following. Appreciate very much if anyone
can help.

In 1985, I heard a mini LP by a US(Californian?) band called POP ART which played
60's influenced garage rock. The mini-LP is self titled and contained 5 tracks.
Local record shops that I have been to have not been able to find the album and
it is not listed in any CD/Record catalogues which I have seen. Does anybody out
there know whether the album is available and how I can obtain a copy?

I would also appreciate recommendations from fans of New York hardcore music for
some vital hardcore albums to lay my hands on.

Thanking all in advance.

Always.....me!
Outlander.
(hamdan@iti.gov.sg)

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From: page.Princeton.EDU!jcgoh (Justin C. Goh)
Subject: Re: Killing Joke
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 05:08:32 GMT

In article <14nuj3INN5se@agate.berkeley.edu> dim@soda.berkeley.edu (Dimitrios  
Gerasimatos) writes:
> Does anyone have a discography???
> 
> If not, what can you guys tell me about them... I like their style.
> 
> 
Killing Joke has gone through several different styles.  They've been
around a long time ya know.  They first began as a kind of post-punk
grunge band.  But that's not a real accurate description.  They've
always had a metalish guitar sound.  By metal, I mean it sounds very
high and grating, like you were scratching a sheet of metal with
metal claws.  They've also always had a slightly industrial bent to
their stuff.  I really like "Fire Dances" and "Nightime."  One of
their more popular songs was "Eighties" off of Nightime.  I kind of
hate that song (it was in Weird Science) but I thought y'all should
know.  Anyway, Jaz Coleman has a really interesting voice that I
like.  The rhythms are also real cool, and some of the stuff has
a dancy beat (But in a good way.  They are by NO means a dance band).
The only record I would pan is "Brighter Than a Thousand Suns."  It's
one of the few albums I would ever call "sell-out" (a general stupid,
overused term which happens to actually apply here.)  It's a lot softer
and actually deteriorates into pop shlock at times.  They have a 2 LP
spoken word album called "Courtault Talks" (I spelled that wrong, but
it's something like that.).  It's really strange in a bad way.  Just
kind of dumb and uninteresting.  Their last album "Extremities, Bites,
and Various Repressed Emotions" (Noise International) was a 
triumphant return to form.  Sonic Youth and Ministry could take 
lessons from this effort.  It has a very aggro sound with blaring 
guitars ala Ministry, Nine Inch Nails, etc.  However, Extremities 
has its own unique sound and relies more on guitars than the 
electronics other aggro bands use. Sadly, Killing Joke has disbanded.
Apparently, Jaz wanted the band to record a new album in Beirut of
all places.  He seems to have lost some of his mental faculties and
the rest of the band said to hell with that.  Martin Atkins is a fiend
of a drummer.  Check out the Ministry video "In Case You Didn't Feel
Like Showing Up (Live)" to see him at work.  He's also played with
Pigface and I think he's with Murder, Inc. nowadays, but I'm not
sure.  I don't know what Raven is up to, but I hope we hear from him
again because he's a phenomenal guitarist.  Killing Joke was and is
a very underrated band. I'll never know why.  I mean, they even have
the cool name.  So check out the three albums I recommend and then maybe
go on to their other stuff.  BTW, a lot of their releases may
be hard to find, and I think a lot of them are on import only. 
Happy trails.

- Justin Goh
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