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Subject: Re: MRT in K.L
From: chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC)
Date: 17 Apr 92 22:30:39 +1200
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering Department, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.

In article <1992Apr17.012943.11203@husc3.harvard.edu> tloh@husc8.harvard.edu (Teck Loh) writes:

>Did anybody know any country practically implemented the superconducting
>linear electric motors? As far as I know, a trial rail has been built
>in Tokyo and it has been experimented and research has been carried out
>for more than ten years. 

I belief there may be a trial in Germany, but I may be wrong.

>It seems that it still has some problems in
>commercialize the system. Does anyone know what are the reasons?

One of the problems is to cool the superconducting material.  Most 
of the research in the superconducting business is concerned with
producing superconducting materials which will go into the
superconducting mode at higher temperatures.

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Dennis Chuah, BE (Elec)    | "One Country,  | Supporting the Malaysian 
Te Whare Wananga O Waitaha | One People." - | Hockey team for gold in 
Aotearoa.                  | Maori proverb. | Barcelona.
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"Pencangkul Matahari" email: chuah@stargate.elec.canterbury.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: chong@juliet.caltech.edu (Chong, Francis F. S.)
Subject: Zam sinks to new depths
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.40    
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:33:00 GMT

>Eat shit you self-appointed wannabe know-nothing ass-licking
>dick-breath  cocksucking net-cop motherfucker...
> 
>p/s: Sorry for those who are offended by some statements in this
>article.  The posting by the anonymous person above is invariably
>bellicose, hate-spreading, and above all, blatantly false. National
>Enquirer probably carries more truth than this person's posting.
> 
>===------ 
>NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
>The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
>promised to take our land and they took it.
>                                                        Red Cloud

	My, my....I see that NorAazizam MohdAasif has sunk to new depths 
in his never-ending struggle to dig a deeper hole to fall into. What an
impressive vocabulary you have! Of course, we are no strangers to each 
other....zam and I have exchanged pleasantries in the past. He was usually
inaccurate and racist, but never was he so obsessed with obscenities. What
wonders a college education is doing for him, eh?
	Your postscript, ironically, is an accurate description of yourself.
I suppose you ought to be congratulated on being accurate in this. It's,
after all, such a rare occasion that you are even remotely accurate. Sigh...
very well, Congratulations!
	More to the point, why do you type such obscenities on the screen,
and then apologize thereafter? Are you unable to carry out a reasoned 
debate without resorting to all sorts of obscenities, that, after all, 
merely reflect your abysmal lack of refinement. Perhaps it is too much to 
hope for, that you'd improve with the years.
	I must say, though, that you have certainly become more tenacious!
Your arguments still degenerate to wild tangents and irrelevancies, but I 
have not yet seen you slink off with your tail between your legs as you
used to do after being bested. Ah, those were the days, no? Or, perhaps, you
choose not to remember? It was quite entertaining.
	Who was the sage who advised : One should keep one's words sweet;
one might have to eat them someday.
	Your little gems might come back to haunt you someday. Given the 
number of people you have alienated, they probably will. Poor zam, sunk
even before leaving port. Poor, poor NorAazizam MohdAasif....

Francis Chong
Caltech
From: paul@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Indo. Army Busy -( Was : Re: East Timor Communist?????)
Date: 12 Apr 92 07:28:09 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

> You really think that the Indonesian government is on some kind of crusade?

Besides East Timor there are also Indonesian military operations
against local political movements in Aceh and Irian Jaya. The
political movements in Aceh, Timor, and Irian Jaya have no political
similarities.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif)
Subject: Re: The French in the Pacific
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:05:12 GMT

In article <s4f9vINN105@stanley.cis.Brown.EDU> ST101019@brownvm.brown.edu writes:
>Dennis said...
>
>From: chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC)
>
>Me thinks ALL mass destruction weapons should be banned.  Three
>cheers to the French for suspending nuclear tests in the Pacific.
>
> But Dennis, remember that the French are the ones who persistently
>continued their nuclear testing program despite years and years
>of opposition from every single country in the region. They are the ones
>who sent secret agents to blow up the Rainbow Warrior (and hence killing
>an innocent Portuguese photographer) and who were NOT sorry about it at
>all! This is classic colonial mentality - we want nukes to bolster our
>own security but they are nasty so we'll test them on half-naked
>Polynesian natives on the other side of the world so *they* can get
>cancer and leukemia and screwed up genetics! I think this is really nasty ;
>at least the US tests nukes in it's OWN territory. (Although this doesn't
>make it any nicer for people who live in New Mexico, still, it's their
>country.) If France has stopped doing it, all very well and good.


	France, despite being a signatory to the Non-Proliferation
Treaty, had exported their nuclear technology to at least two
countries in this world: Israel and Iraq.  So much for applauding
their current effort...

	If you want to see the Scum of all Scums, France actually
qualifies as one.

===------ 
NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
promised to take our land and they took it.
                                                        Red Cloud
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Negaraku
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:21:20 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Apr13.020445.6747@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, mrm3u@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Mohamed Rozani Mohamedosman) writes:
> Dear s.c.a. readers,

[a lot of stuff been deleted]

> 	If only everyone would realise that Malaysia is a multi-racial,
> multi-cultural and multi-religious nation whose citizens (most of them
> anyway) sincerely want to live in peace and harmony with their neighbours
> regardless of race or religion.  One only has to look at children who play
> with all their peers without prejudice.  It only through the biased views
> of adults that some of these future leaders of our country grow to be
> inconsiderate and prejudiced.  
> 
 	[stuff deleted]
> 
> 	Call me idealist, but I live for the day when my fellow countrymen
> (and women) would consider themselves Malaysians first rather than Malay,
> Chinese, Indian or one of the many other ethnic groups that OUR country
> is fortunate to have.

	If you pay close attention to the exchanges, you will notice that
only one clown is making all the noises so it makes him an easy target.
	I agree with you that we should all have an open mind and tolerate
each other regardless of race.  For example, I am very glad to see that
a lot of the educated Malays are begin to question the corruptions in
the Government.   When the opposition criticize the government, I hope 
a lot of people can see that they are not against the Malay but rather
for a good Malaysia.  Unfortunately, you will always find some politicans
who like to paint a scenario in terms of WE vs THEM.

Jack Teh 
> 
> And please, bear in mind that the fifth line of Rukunegara goes like this:
> 	             KESOPANAN DAN KESUSILAAN
> 	
> 
> 						ever longing for satay,
> 
> 						       Rozani
> 
> ************************************************************************
> Mohamed Rozani Osman		* Ignorance is the night of mind.	
> mrm3u@fulton.seas.virginia.edu  * 	   - Efe Pygmies of Zaire
> rozz@virginia.edu		*
> ************************************************************************
> 
> p.s. thanks LL!
From: zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif)
Subject: Re: East Timor Communist?????
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:12:03 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.173827.24853@eng.umd.edu> eduardo@eng.umd.edu (Eduardo H. Guiraud) writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.053519.22366@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> aman@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Amril Aman) writes:
>>
>>Dennis, could you give a 'credible' source that documented the
>>GENOCIDE of chinese people by Indonesian Government ??????
>>Be specific, please !!  Please give us the name of books, newspapers,
>>journal etc. that you used as your source.  ... No TABLOID, OK.... 
>>Also, you might give some information where did the GENOCIDE happen
>>(the name of the place), when did it happen, and how many chinese
>>became the victims ??  I spent most of my life in Indonesia, and
>>you are the first person who told me about the incident (if it really
>>occurs).
>>Personally, I don't believe with your posting.  Nevertheless lets give
>>you a chance for an explanation before concluding that your posting 
>>merely a TRASH.  
>>Thank you.
>>
>>Amril Aman
>>aman@ecn.purdue.edu

>I assume that you were born after G30S-PKI; otherwise, you know what
>happened the days after G30S.  Chinese people were chased and killed
>because they were thought as PKI members, which were just excuse for
>the "natives and some govt" to kill Chinese.

>If you are Chinese, why don't you ask your parents what had happened
>to Chinese at that time.

	
	I hate to nitpick but the official name given to the October
event is G.30.S/PKI, and not G30S-PKI...   :-)

===------ 
NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
promised to take our land and they took it.
                                                        Red Cloud
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: tabk2@isuvax.iastate.edu
Subject: Re: A paradox?
Reply-To: tabk2@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 19:41:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.202638.18875@athena.mit.edu>, zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes:

>	Of course not.  Only a demented person would adhere to the
>Hitler's causes...


Then why did you use him as an example? 

Perhaps you do look towards him as a personal hero, eh? 
Please, cut it out, you goofed. you used a wrong/poor example,
now you're in a hole, and you can't get out. 

Or maybe you do adhere to what
he's doing after all, since you refuse to admit that you goofed.



>===------ 
>NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
>                                                        Red Cloud
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: ygoh@fraser.sfu.ca (Kelvin Goh)
Subject: Re: bored beyond belief II
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:20:20 GMT

fajack@cc.usu.edu writes:

>> Let's talk bolasepak !!!! So...anyone knows when the season starts ?





>of this net either do not have the news about sports back home or do not
>give a damm about them.
>	I want to know what is happening with Selangor (the LIVERPOOL of
>Malaysia, well sort of) ? Are they back to their old form after a 
>couples of very bad years ?  I used to have access to New Straits Times
>in my previous college, but after moving here, the news about Malaysia
>sports has been totally cut off.  The 'latest' news (which is more than
>a year old) I know was that Kedah was relegated to second division after
>winning the Malaysia cup the previous year !! (sound like what is
>may be happening to Spurs now).


>Jack Teh
>	
I get the New Straits Times here but its usually a month old. I was
hoping anyone who has access to more recent news to contribute. I've 
not been reading the papers lately but I'll fill you in when I get
my hands on them.
When's the Commonwealth Games ? Is it next year or the year after next ?
Victoria (the hosting city is not far from here) and I'll be able to give
you up-to-date news ! I've never seen the M'sian athletes in action in
real life before so it would be exciting.
I wish students in the U's in Malaysia could sent in bits of news from
home. Hmmm....anyone knows any students there ?
Still waiting for news about hockey... I read in the NST that the hockey
team is busy preparing for the Olympics. They lost to the Aussies but
played a good match. 
Anyone with up-to-date news please contribute ?...... :-)
 

>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Usman Awang's 'Balada Terbunuhnya Beringin Tua ..
From: chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC)
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:54:14 +1200
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering Department, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.

In article <Mdv7Iai00iUx44KI0_@andrew.cmu.edu> as5h+@andrew.cmu.edu (Azleena Salleh) writes:

Here is the attempt of my $0.20 (inflation lah) worth of translation.
Pardon my mistakes, English is my second language :-).

>BALADA TERBUNUHNYA BERINGIN TUA
>DI PINGGIR SEBUAH BANADARAYA

The ballad of the murdered Beringin tree in the suburbs of a city

>Beringin tua di pinggir jalan raya

An old Beringin stands in the side of the road

>di sebuah ibu kota yang setengah muda

in a half young (??) capital city

>ratusan tahun usianya berdiri

It has been standing there for hundreds of years

>menadah matari memayungi bumi

Shading the Sun, sheltering (literally - "umbrellaing") the Earth

>burung-burung berterbangan menyanyi

The birds fly and sing

>di sini rumah mereka, di sini keluarga bahagia

Here is their house, here is their happy home

>kupu-kupu berkejaran dalam senda guraunya

Buterflies chase each other wothin its realms

>anak-anak bermain di keteduhan perdunya.

The children playing in its shade


>Tiba-tiba pagi yang hitam itu datang

Suddenly, that black morning arrived

>gergasi teknologi menyerangnya 

A technological monster attacks it

>dengan kejam membenamkan gigi-gigi besi

with cruelty, bites it with steelen teeth

>sehingga terdengarlah jeritan ngeri

until a scary scream was heard

>suara Beringin rebah ke bumi.

the voice of the Beringin falls to Earth.

>Sampai sekarang, tiap senjakala lembayung petang

Till today, every dusk

>dengarlah suara Beringin mengucapkan pesan:

we hear the Beringin address

>    Selamat tinggal, selamat tinggal wahai awan

Good bye, good bye the clouds

>    Selamat tinggal matari selamat tinggal bulan

Good bye the Sun, good bye the moon

>    Selamat tinggal kupu-kupu sayang

Good bye beloved buterflies

>    Selamat tinggal wahai burung-burung bersarang

Good bye the nesting birds

>    Selamat tinggal anak-anak bermain riang

Good bye the children playing noisily

>Namaku Beringin pohon tua yang terbuang

I am Beringin, an old tree thrown away

>dimusuhi oleh rancangan bernama Pembangunan.

the development plans my enemy.

note:
I know it does make the poem lose its effect in English but I think
fellow readers of s.c.a. who does not understand our National Language
deserves to know the literal meaning of such a beautiful poem.

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Dennis Chuah, BE (Elec)    | "One Country,  | Supporting the Malaysian 
Te Whare Wananga O Waitaha | One People." - | Hockey team for gold in 
Aotearoa.                  | Maori proverb. | Barcelona.
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"Pencangkul Matahari" email: chuah@stargate.elec.canterbury.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: The ecosystem and the malays
From: chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC)
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:21:55 +1200
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering Department, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.

In article <1992Apr15.033612.9124@leland.Stanford.EDU> azran@leland.Stanford.EDU (Azran Osman Rani) writes:

>Fines will not induce action. The enforcement of these fines will!
>We already have the $500 fines, but it is rarely enforced.

Fines are a short term solution.  Education should be the key in 
stopping the litter bug.  

>Your are probably referring to diesel exhaust. It looks the
>nastiest because you can actually see the carbon pollutants
>(the ugly black smog!) But looks can be deceiving. I would think that
>regular gosoline exhaust fumes is worse, although it is relatively "clear".
>Doesn't it have a higher Sulphur Dioxide and Nitrogen Dioxide content?
>That would make it even more lethal than diesel exhaust fumes.

>Nobody  has, because Malaysia does not have strict "smog" laws like they
>do here in the States. Although implementing and enforcing these laws
>will help ease the situation, I think more long term solutions need to
>be found. Better public transportation could be one, especially for
>big cities like Kuala Lumpur. Whatever happened to the Mass Rapid Transit
>plans? Still tangled up in the bureaucracy? Figures. Didn't they
>start organizing car pools in KL this year? This should be applauded.

A short term solution might be to introduce laws which limit the
ammount a car or bus is allowed to emit.  This would force 
automobile manufacturers to design engines which polute less.
Catalytic (sp?) converters can also reduce the amount of pollutant.

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Dennis Chuah, BE (Elec)    | "One Country,  | Supporting the Malaysian 
Te Whare Wananga O Waitaha | One People." - | Hockey team for gold in 
Aotearoa.                  | Maori proverb. | Barcelona.
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"Pencangkul Matahari" email: chuah@stargate.elec.canterbury.ac.nz
From: fajack@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: The privileges of the Sultans
Date: 13 Apr 92 11:38:33 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

> 
>>	Of course, there is a difference between the Monarchy in
>>England and Malaysia.  England does not accept that many Chinese as
>>her citizens; therefore, dimishing any kinds of problems that will be
>>created from a multi-racial society.  Malaysia, in her kindness to the
>>new immigrants, accepted a lot of Chinese, changing the whole scope of
>>the Malaysian power-play.  Do you see a lot of immigrants objecting to
>>having the Queen in England?  No, because they know they are lucky to
>>be in England and know their fate.  But hey, gratitude is not
>>something that you see in Malaysia...
>>
> 
> 	Man, what the hell is wrong with you?  Someone is talking about the
> 	differences in the monarchy system, and wham! comes this guy with the   	reply which includes racists hints at immigrants, the Chinese in 
> 	particular.  The original article did not even refer to the communities
> 	making up the two countries.  God only knows what you are learning at 
> 	MIT.  Is your daily routine that of leaving your apartment daily for the
> 	campus for classes and back again when done for the day?  Do you ever
> 	interact with the various no. of communities that make up the 
> 	institution, that add a spice to the college setting?  Is your mind 
> 	a one track mind that only adheres to calling people nice when their
> 	views agree with yours?  Use the summer to explore Cambridge or
> 	Boston properly...  Don't go back to Malaysia with a negative and close-	minded attitude.   

	
	We always fault Zam for not stepping out Ivory Tower of MIT to
broaden his horizon.  Well, maybe he did go out but went SOUTH instead, and 
found friends in the KKK !!!

Jack Teh




> 
> 
> ===============================================================================
> Rajan T Thampi --> Internet: rtt1@cec1.wustl.edu | Ngap Sayot! Land of the 
> Lycoming College (Physics), Williamsport, PA.    | 	Hornbills.  
> Washington University in St. Louis (EE),         | Liverpool F.C   
> School of Engineering & Applied Science.         |   - the mighty reds forever!
> N A M A S K A R A M  T O  O N E  A N D  A L L !  | Missing Bharat... :-(   
> ===============================================================================   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: cylee@pieman (Chang Yong Lee)
Subject: Tsk Tsk Zam !
Organization: University of Tasmania 
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:49:13 GMT


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You're not qualify to be a true Malaysian !
From: v134rrxt@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Wei-Tiong Cham)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Important:PLEASE read.
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:02:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.1992Apr13.230323.5882
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr12.181145.15150@athena.mit.edu>, zam@athena.mit.edu (Nor Aazizam Mohd Aasif) writes...
>In article <1992Apr11.200258.54398@cc.usu.edu> fajack@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>In article <73635@netnews.upenn.edu>, choo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (TOM HOO CHUIN HOONG) writes:
>>> Dear fellow Malaysians,
>>
>> [some stuff deleted]
>>
>>> 
>>> 	We should stop replying to people like Zam because he does not seem to
>>> understand the basic manners of discussion in the network. Because of their
>>> behavior, much  unnecessary enery and anger have been unleashed among members
>>> of the network when all these energy should have been channeled into discussing
>>> all sides of the issues.
>>> 
>>> 	I love Malaysia and I am not deterred by words that say I am loyal
>>> to other countries like SIngapore, China.Of course I will be hurt when someone
>>> calls me unpatriotic, or that I should leave Malaysia, or that I should give my
>>> mum, sister to someone else....BUT WHAT IS THE POINT OF TALKING TO SENSELESS
>>> PEOPLE WHO HAVE PROVEN AGAIN AND AGAIN THAT THEY ARE INSENSITIVE TO OTHER PEOPLE' FEELINGS AND HAVE NO RESPECT FOR THEM?
>>> 
>>> 	Please, Boycott people like Zam. They will only create trouble when
>>> there is none. These people are flame-starters that will jeopardize the 
>>> relationship among races. We should work together to solve the problems among
>>> us, not insult each other's identity.
>>> 
>>> 	BOYCOTT THEM NOW!
>>> TOM
>>
>>	I share your sentiment about the boycott.  But on the other hand,
>>Zam is the only one who is providing most of the "entertainment" in this net.
>>Let face it, you will think species like that will be spending its time
>>rolling in the mud with other swine instead of attending MIT. (I wonder
>>should the admission officer be sued for neglience ?)
> 
>	This poor, snivelling geek, yammering out his
>brain-damage-induced hatred for five lines, absolutely convinced that
>his words were so important that everyone (anyone) would read them --
>what a pathetic sight.  We've gone well beyond the "get a life" stage
>here.  It's time for euthanasia.
> 
>	Get lost, you geeky chink
> 
>===------ 
>NorAazizam MohdAAsif	 
>The white man made many promises to us but they never kept but one; they
>promised to take our land and they took it.
>                                                        Red Cloud


	Saudara NorZamMohAs, thumb up for your use of words.
Though you made yourself looked more like a geeky chink, 
(did i say chink?), i like it !!

	Keep up the silly posting !

Ps: Wouldn't it sound more attractive if your could use some
    B.M. foul language like 'p@kim* lu' ?