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From: bsinger@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Bayla Singer)
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Subject: Re: Grungy city
Date: 5 Nov 92 10:59:12 GMT
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ggs:
>>Nothing can equal driving into Philadelphia on I-95 from the south
>>and careening through all those tangles of old ironwork bridges,
>>speeding along on the worst interstate highway in the world.
tushar:
>And what is it like driving into Chicago, the pothole capital of the
>world, from the south? Jeez.

Ah, yess: riding Amtrak into Chicago from the east, as one rounds the 
southern tip of Lake Michigan and sees the magnificent skyline through
a mess of rusting steel mills -- or driving in from the airport, through
the decaying manufacturing district, toward that selfsame skyline.  

Gilbert, you just haven't been <where the grunge is>, even <skylinely
speaking>.  I must admit, though, the blue-painted Ben Franklin Bridge
is an <exhilarating> sight -- dammit, youse guys, I'm getting homesicker
by the minnit, for all the <big cities> I didn't realize I'd miss.

--bayla (it's too damn hot, here!)
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From:         "Don Moore (813) 974-4078 S/C 574-4078"
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Subject:      Apology to Ruth

*** Resending note of 11/09/92 15:12

That's an apology????????????

>Graham

Sleep on it some more.



Ruth, do you see the parallel drawn above?  That's exactly what you're
doing to us.  Obviously, I don't mean it - it was just an illustration,
and yes, I do apologise for hurting you when you believe that you are
a good and decent person.  I'll end this flamewar now even though there's
a lot that's been said that I'm itching to dispute.

Please give some thought to the real life consequences of your beliefs
on other people.  Christian bigotry is causing more concrete and lasting
harm than this exchange of words could do.

G
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: The Democrats and Me
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>
> This return to the discussion of Presidents and Presidents-elect reminds
> me of something I had meant to ask or look up.  I read that Clinton will
> be the 3rd youngest President  in U.S. history.  JFK was the youngest,
> wasn't he?  That's not the question.  I threw in the tag question because
> I never trust my memory anymore.  The question I wanted to ask is who was
> the other President younger than Clinton.
>    --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Wasn't it Theodore Roosevelt?
ndh (and no, I didn't vote for him, Tushar)
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 13:08:51 -0500
From:         "(Agnes Kruchio)" <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: One simple (?!) question
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              at Nov 10, 92 9:34 am

>
> >of your synapses just will not do. Do go away and come back when you
> >have grown up some. Take several lifetimes, if you need to, do.
> >A
>
> I don't know as if growing up would help, Agnes.  It apparently has had little
> or no effect on you.  How's about you go away for a while.  One lifetime would
> be sufficient.
>
> Chris
>
Gads, they now run in gangs now. How fitting.

A
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: Re: amendment 2
Date: 8 Nov 1992 06:59:39 GMT
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In a previous article, gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:

>:      Or more equivalent--if atheists ruled a state, would it be okay for them
>: to say that any county or city cannot ban discrimination against practicing
>: adherents of any sect (including Christians).
>:      Legislate unto others as you would have them legislate unto you.
>
>Yes, the Oregon and possibly Colorado measures are very like the way
>the communist Russian state banned christianity for 70 years and drove
>it underground...
>
And look how much good that did.<grin>  Religion in general in the Soviet
Union is coming back out of the closet with a vengeance.:-)  My point 
originally had nothing to do with the validity of legislating anything, but
concerned voting for something one could not in good conscience condone.
England had laws for years banning sodomy - one guess how much good those
laws did?  Sod all, from what I hear.  About as much good as speeding tickets
do here.:-)  

Legislation does not make it so......  I only wish it did.  But if it did,
who'd need the law in the first place?   Child pronography is illegal as all
get-out; does that stop it?  Discrimination based on race has been illegal
here for *how* long?  Has it stopped yet?  
-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
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From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: your mail
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On Mon, 9 Nov 1992 PBARFOOT@suvm.bitnet wrote:

> I got signed off words by the local netman this weekend. This
> morning I resubscribed. Does this mean I'm a newbie ?

No, it just means your system is managed by a fascist.

-abh
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From:         Evelyn <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: the truth about judith (try no. 2
              11 Nov 1992 15:18:08 EST from <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>

"ineffable":  indescribable  (Merriam-Webster)

"apostate" sounds too much like "apostle."  So people became confused.
Of course, that's just my opinion

Evelyn
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 16:52:51 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: The Japanese Plutonium Ship
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It left when I said, and a Greenpeace ship was following it so they could
report any incidents that might otherwise be hushed up.  I hadn't heard
about them being rammed, but that's entirely possible and expected.

Rammed, i hope, by an escort ship and not the one with the plutonium.

G
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From:         Entropy Warrior <AUSBROOK@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: On the whole, I'd rather be in

NOT

>Wasn't it Philadelphia that inspired David Lynch?
>
>Evelyn

With all due respect to Alec, Philadelphia is the most horrible city in
America.  Lynch merely said that it is the most sinister.

And the only view of the skyline that is worth anything is on 34th street, by
the zoo but up the street a little, just before a bridge that goes over some
tracks.  (Check it out, Alec.)

Fortunately the tracks and roads that lead into the city also lead out.

Apropos the bombing of MOVE by Mayor Goode (somehow the FBI could never quite
pin the order on him): Black Thursday.  Black mayor, black chief of police,
black fire commissioner.  Else the whole city had burned.  More the pity.

-K

-Mka
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From:         "(Rashmi)" <rashmi%Spl3.ECE.Drexel.EDU@COE.DREXEL.EDU>
Subject: Re: When gods fail
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OLD thread alert!!

Tushar writes re disorder in religion etc:

> I was going to say something just like this to Blomberg's letter about
> Orthodox services. In my opinion, whatever is called "Hinduism" allows
> much more freedom than some other religions.
 [...]
> My grandfather could and did always make ridiculous fun of all religious
> rituals and all gods. It's my fond theory that when he was young, the Konkan
> strip on the west coast of India had one of the highest atheist densities
> in the world. How else can I explain so many people from there, of his age,
> who are so irreverent, humorous, and flamey without being bitter?

Interesting, this reminds me of my grandfather's attitude towards religion.
Also, your theory probably holds for a fair bit of the country at the time.
I have come across many people of that age holding similar views - mostly
men, though, the women form almost the other extreme.  My grandma's a good
example - she reads all sorts of books, recites the appropriate prayers etc,
despite being married to a non-believer for 30 some years.  As a child, I
recall asking her how come her husband hadn't influenced her in the least.
Pat came her reply "I have to pray for him as well".  Should have expected
that, huh.

rashmi
From: TRAVEN@VMS.CIS.PITT.EDU (Blue eyes cryin' in the rain)
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Subject: Re: RI teen talk dictionary - Part II
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>From: Central Falls High School

>5-O                               police

	These kids still know 'Hawaii 5-0'?


>From: Hope High School, Providence

>my bad                            my fault

	Volleyball slang.

>duckets                           money

	I like this one.  Do you think they know it's really 'ducats'?

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From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: HELLO!
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>Cowher. It stirs up images of a fear-filled child in a corner. This is
>obviously not what I mean. This Cowher refers to head coach of the
>Pittsburgh Steelers, Bill Cowher. He has singlehandedly elevated the
>play of the team by reinstituting a non-discriminatory (refering to
>rookies) playing policy and two-a-day practices in training camp.
>Without spouting statistics, which I may do at a later date if
>requested, the Steelers are indeed headed for greatness.
Ah. Thank you...

>By the way, did the apes canonize you themselves or did they need a sign
>language interpreter?
It was Blomberg Cepeda who canonized me, as soon as he regained
consciousness...

As for the apes...they and I go back a looooong time together...

>Peace, Love, and Red M&Ms,
With or without peanuts?
S. J. of the A.
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Original-From: mhwpa!ktw (Kenneth T Wolman +1 201 564 2866)
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From:         ktw@MHWPA.ATT.COM
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>Ur, uh, Ken...  Shall I send Bernardykins up there to work on your
>system?
>
>> UUCP request att!D.att2872093 to mhwpa!D.att2872093
>> failed on system 'mhwpa'.
>> Reason for failure:
>> 	remote system can't create temp file
>> 	remote file system is low on free space
>>

Might as well.  We're talking major league dog here, anyway.

Sprint, anyone?...
From: ST403231@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (Frank)
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Date: 9 Nov 92 17:21:06 GMT
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>From:         samant@CS.UCHICAGO.EDU
>
>>               Velikij Okt'abr' (that's Great October, Akio)
>
>Why Akio?
>
>tushar

Just doing my part to keep Gleanings (tm) down to a managable size.

Frank
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 05:24:44 GMT
From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK>
Subject:      Re: Establishment (was legislating)
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: There are subtle distinctions. Saying floccinaucinihilipilification will
: make people wonder whether you think you are an Eton boy or Harrow, but
: saying supracalifragilisticexpialidocious will merely make them certain
: that you are an insufferable twit.

No.  Saying floccinaucinihilipilification too often will brand you as
a twit no matter what school people think you went to...

oops!

G
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Date:         Sun, 8 Nov 1992 19:56:02 -0600
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      religious flamewar
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I just have one thing to say to all of you:

>This program posts news to thousands of machines throughout the entire
>civilized world.  Your message will cost the net hundreds if not thousands of
>dollars to send everywhere.  Please be sure you know what you are doing.

-abh
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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Subject:      Seven Lean Years?

>    So what do you call what we're having these days, Steve?
>    Bonhomie?  Joie de vivre?

As I've noted before, George Bush has reduced the opportunities for
profiting from long positions in malaise.  I'm not mourning his
firing by any means, but I fail to see any reason for jubilation at
the election of a president whose advisers are well to the left of
the population and the election of several new senators whose
positions are well to the left of their constituents.  I'd actually
like to be proven wrong and see the government straighten itself out
and restore conditions for prosperity.  But I don't expect it, and I
suspect many voters who voted for Democrats yesterday will be quick
to fire them in two or four years if my expectation is correct.

>    "Malaise" sounds like a pretty good description of the national
>    hangover from the 12-year party that Ron and George threw for
>    their buddies.

One reason the bloodletting in the Republican Party may be severe in
the next couple of years is George Bush did not continue the Reagan
administration.  His pollsters responded to an attitude that the
Seven Fat Years were a period of excess, and toned down some of that
excess.  Well, now we have Democrats making like me-too Republicans,
talking about economic growth.  Betcha a further watering down of
Bush won't produce much growth either, and I expect those new
senators to give in to their basic instincts to spend, regulate, and
tax.

The good news is, we've already had two lean years.  Four more, and
people might be willing to consider anew the value of genuine tax
cuts and genuine deregulation.

Now, if the new administration and Congress prove me wrong, I may
actually vote to renew their contracts.

Steve Karlson

That giant sucking sound you hear is the tax machine starting up.
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*** Resending note of 11/05/92 17:36

>> I once shook LBJ's hand (before I knew better) and still can't get
>> hand clean :-)

> :-)  Don, that reminds me of my dad's taking the long way to work when
>his normal route to work was renamed LBJ Drive.  He refused to soil his
>tires on that road.
>Doris

Thanks Doris for a great laugh!!   Your father's OK!!!
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Date:         Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:32:59 CST
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Clinton's 'Mandate'
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If Republicanism is genetic, is it a dominant or recessive gene?  I'm
trying to figure out my own family's genes in that respect (based on
my memory of tenth-grade biology and ignoring the Mendelian complications
I read about recently in Newsweek).  If my parents have called themselves
Independents (but have voted Republican more often than Democrat), maybe
they're both Rd, if Republicanism is dominant.  By brother ended up RR.
How sad for his children.  I, on the other hand, ended up with the two
recessive genes and am dd.  Thank goodness for those recessive genes in
my parents!
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
From: jthomas@netsys.com (Jim Thomas)
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Date: 10 Nov 92 18:14:54 GMT
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Wow. A whole series of Oct 29 posts flooding in with some Nov 10 posts
mixed in between. Most of the Oct 29 posts seem to be duplicates that
have already appeared here. Anybody else having this?

Jim (suspecting bwp is behind it) Thomas
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: On the whole, I'd rather be in

Wasn't it Philadelphia that inspired David Lynch?

Evelyn
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>
>: There is one thing, lucky you, that I do have a very high tolerance for.
>: Pain.:-( Developed over many years of getting dragged over the coals.  I've
 got
>: the emotional scars to prove it , not to mention a bit of emotional nerve
>
>Don't look for sympathy here.  If you've found a lot of people being

I'm not; sympathy's worse than the pain was to begin with.:-)  I know a lot
of this hurts, but I wasn't the one who started it.  You asked for an honest
reply, expecting either nothing or a paper tiger.  This cat has fangs, and
claws - even if she is a bit beat up.

>hurtful because of your selfish and bigoted views, then perhaps you
>should look inward and reevaluate them.  Anyway, it's good for your
>soul.

<sigh> And still with the name calling?  That statement above is very close
kin to that famous question "Have you stopped beating your wife yet, yes or
no".  No matter what I say, it's the wrong answer.  So I'm not answering.
Instead I'm asking you to take your own advice and reevaluate your own views.
Then take it up with the Father; that's what I did.

>Matt 10:21-22.  "And brother shall deliver brother
>up to death, and the father the child; and the children shall rise
>up against their parents, and cause them to be put to death, and
>ye shall be hated of all men for my name's sake..."
>
Thanks for looking it up for me.  This is one of Christ's prophesies about
the End Times.  Sounds like the late 20th Century, doesn't it?  Parents
murdering children, children murdering parents and siblings.  People hating
each other in general.  I don't know about you, but this sounds like
my home state to me, and in spades.


--
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Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:07:46 GMT

In article <WORDS-L%92111019521086@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> ll23%nemomus@ACADEMIC.NEMOSTATE.EDU writes:
>Posted on 10 Nov 1992 at 17:38:19 by (Jim Thomas)
>>Jim (kennel's are just k-9 jails) Thomas
>      ^^^^^^^^
>You're not *from* Kirksville, are you Jim?  We were just talking last
>night about how local plurals are formed w/ apostrophes.  (The example
>give was "Egg's on sale"
>
>Karen


Nope--I's just a product of the publics edu system.

Jim (who's favorite key is the "any" key not the apostrophe's) Thoma's
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 9 Nov 1992 20:55:44 GMT
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In a previous article, gtoal@RACHEL.IBMPCUG.CO.UK (Graham Toal) says:

>: >Bible. Ruth professes tolerance and advocates that others treat her
>: >tolerantly. Yet, she supports legislation that allows (and in Oregon
>: >would have required) discrimination against those she finds "evil."
>: The first part is correct; the second is pure crap.  I won't bother to say
>: anythiing more; it's not worth the frustration.
>
>I think the Catholics call it 'a sin of omission'.  Standing back and
>allowing others to enact a law enforcing bigotry is
>direct complicity.  An abstention is half a vote for.  This is the crucial

Maybe, but it's also half a vote against.  I don't think such a law would do
any real good.  It might actually stir up the behavior it was enacted to
prevent..  I've seen, eye witnessed mind, similar reactions to other laws.

>issue here - this is the subject that started this flamewar.  As Anne H
>said earlier, knowing how people voted on this issue will affect ones
>judgement of those people for a long time.
>
Ahhhh, but Connecticut passed Gay Rights legislation this year.  I live
here., not in Colorado or Oregon.  Idiots who hate people for being who they
are really started this.  Some are supposed to be my fellow Christians, but
I'll believe it when I see it.

>to quote Jim, "You still don't get it, do you".
>
Actually, Graham, that was Jim quoting me.:-)

>
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	:-) cd /docs/words-l
	:-) ls
	Archives/       Gifs/           Misc/           Writing/
	Clambake92/     Linguistics/    Net-Stuff/      index
	Funnies/        List-Stuff/     Salmonbake93/
	:-) cd Salmonbake93
	:-) ls    [If I weren't in Salmonbake93 here, ls would have produced
	            the same list produced in the parent directory above.]

Two questions.
   Who owns the directories
  Who is CDing to them

G
(try ls -lag)
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>> I am delighted to find out that I am not the only Rice-hater!!!
>> Karen
>> who is Alone No More (in her disinterest in Rice)
>
>Count me in as another who's indifferent to Rice - don't understand her
>appeal at all.

This is the most unconscionable RICE-BASHING I have ever . . . . It's
unspeakable.

-K

-Mka
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