HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: umalexa9@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Edward W. Alexander)
Subject: Proposal: alt.supermodels or alt.pictures.binaries.supermodels
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:47:43 GMT

There has been alot of discussion in alt.great.ass.paulina about creating a
new newsgroup that encompasses all supermodels not just Paulina.
 
As you can tell by the title alt.great.ass.paulina is very limited in it's
actual subject matter, while alt.supermodels would allow for total discussion.
 
But as we all know the supermodels newsgroup would get alot of messages like:
"Who is so-and-so..." OR "What does so-and-so look like?".  This happens alot
in a.g.a.p (alt.great.ass.paulina).  These type of messages result in requests
for binaries; these can be posted to alt.binaries.pictures.misc I suppose, but
every-now-and-again some will get posted to alt.supermodels (if it is created),
which will cause all the bandwidth protestors to attack the group....
 
This is why I also propose alt.binaries.pictures.supermodels newsgroup.  There
are alot of binary groups that should be able to cover for this option however
alt.binaries.pictures alt.binaries.pictures.misc alt.binaries.pictures.erotica
etc.  a.b.p.s (alt.binaries.pictures.supermodels) would also require a .d group
to acompany it.
 
This is why I stress one group if accepted... alt.supermodels

So... what do you think?
Eddy
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From: bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:26:53 GMT
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.visa.us
Organization: Princeton University
X-Subliminal-Message: You can quit reading news anytime you want.

In article <1992Jul22.224913.7998@ennews.eas.asu.edu> sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman) writes:
|bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing) writes on alt.config:
|
|)sridhar@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman) writes:
|)|[Followups to alt.config please]
|)|
|)|Name:   alt.visa.us
|)|
|)|Status: Unmoderated
|)|
|)|Charter:   
|
|  [...]
|
|)|
|)|Sridhar.
|)
|)Hmm, this looks legit enough that maybe you want to get a "real" group?
|
|I don't think it is worth the trouble. If it becomes very popular, I
|volunteer to put it into one of the main hierarchies. 
|
|)Perhaps talk.politics.visa or something? (you probably don't have to make
|)a special distinction for US visas)
|
|At present "us" visas seem to be the main focus of the visa postings. 
|
|)                                    Also, since it's presumably for people
|)in other countries trying to get US (and other) visas, you surely wouldn't
|)want to restrict it to USA only.
|
|Ok. 
|
|)ben
|
|Sridhar.

Now hold one minute -- you just went ahead and sent the newgroup message out,
less than a day after posting about it to alt.config!

You got precisely one comment (from me), which raised questions about the
name!  Is this "enough discussion time"?

I don't think "alt.visa.us" is a good name for two reasons:

1) Do we need separate groups for different sorts of visas?  I don't think
   there is enough traffic -- so you don't need the ".us" extension.

2) There's no need for a "visa" hierarchy (and it might get confused with
   credit cards, anyway).  If you want to put the group in alt, put it
   under alt.politics, i.e. call the group "alt.politics.visa".


ben
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Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: amartell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Alex Martelli)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.fan.raw
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 08:34:13 GMT

twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:

>In article <1992Jul27.180612.13344@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> amartell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Alex Martelli) writes:

>>I'm sure I'm not the only fan of Robert Anton Wilson on the altnet.  Why
>>don't we set up a newsgroup to discuss his works and ideas?  "raw" would

>Sounds like a nice idea, except there's already alt.slack.  I haven't
>yet met a Wilson fan who isn't also a devotee of BOB's.

Well I am one right here.  I don't even know, or particularly care, about
BOB and slack...
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:52:30 EDT
From: <KPS1@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.culture.kerala
Distribution: usa
 <1992Jul23.195948.22605@athena.cs.uga.edu>

I too am in favor of the formation of alt.culture.kerala since I see this as an
opportunity for keralites residing outside kerala to come together and share t
heir experiences and thoughts rather than squabble over the diversity of differ
ent cultures on SCI. Hope it comes through.

                                                    sandeep
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From: jdr@starflight.Corp.Sun.COM (Jon Roland)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.alien.visitors,alt.paranormal
Subject: Re: RFD: Split, rename alt.alien.visitors
Followup-To: alt.config
Date: 27 Jul 1992 04:34:36 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jdr@starflight.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: starflight.corp.sun.com

In article l6uu9rINN8qf@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM, jdr@starflight.Corp.Sun.COM (Jon Roland) writes:
>That leaves one other possibility, using two 2nd-level names:
>
>alt.alien.coverups	- official coverups, disinformation, harrassments
>alt.alien.meetings	- close encounters of 3rd and 4th kinds, abductions
>alt.anomaly.circles	- crop circles, unidentified ground markings
>alt.anomaly.mutilations	- strange mutilations
>alt.anomaly.ufos	- aerial sightings, close encounters of 1st and 2nd kind

Since this posting responses suggest that it would be less disruptive without
much loss of meaning if we left alt.alien.meetings named alt.alien.visitors.
There is merit to this suggestion and I am prepared to accept it.

It also occurred to me that these third-level names are not exclusive, so that
there should be a "misc" catchall for each. Thus, we would have

alt.alien.coverups	- official coverups, disinformation, harrassments
alt.alien.visitors	- close encounters of 3rd and 4th kinds, abductions
alt.alien.misc		- subjects not included in above
alt.anomaly.circles	- crop circles, unidentified ground markings
alt.anomaly.mutilations	- strange mutilations
alt.anomaly.ufos	- aerial sightings, close encounters of 1st and 2nd kind
alt.anomaly.misc	- subjects not included in above

It was suggested that "paranormal" be used in place of "anomaly" in the above,
but that group has become dominated by new-age types.

If someone were of a mind to break out alt.paranormal, however, I would suggest

alt.paranormal.esp	- telepathy, clairvoyance, precognition, telekinesis
alt.paranormal.dead	- contact with the dead, ghosts, reincarnation
alt.paranormal.creature	- strange creatures, such as bigfoot, yeti
alt.paranormal.missing	- strange disappearances
alt.paranormal.reveal	- revealed wisdom, impending momentous events
alt.paranormal.injury	- strange injuries, such as spontaneous combustion
alt.paranormal.misc	- subjects not included in above

---

jdr@starflight.corp.sun.com, starflt@uunet.uu.net
Jon Roland
Starflight Corporation, 1755 E Bayshore Rd #9A,
Redwood City, CA 94063-4142, 415/361-8141
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: alt.culture.kerala
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:07:30 GMT
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

1] After going through the responses to the rfd and finding
   strong support for the formation and no objections we are 
   proceeding to the creation of the group alt.culture.kerala.

2] Stay Cool.

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From: gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.rock-n-roll.hard,alt.rock-n-roll.heavy
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:14:47 GMT
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof


>WHY CREATE ANOTHER NEWSGROUP??
>There are already enough metal ones as it is.
>Please rethink your idea.

To be honest, I had rethought it a few times, and I never could
decide how good an idea it it/was...But it seems to have gotten
some favorable response, and no matter what, my sysadmin has
done the deed already.  Ah well.


>Read cblanc's article 'having read this shit' for his opinions.

I did.  I agreed 100% with him.  One of the reasons the new 
group was created, I think, was people like me are sick of
seeing progressive metal called "glam" or "poser" by some
of the folks on the current metal newsgroups.  Unfortunately
people there seem to be _extremely_ closed-minded, and would
rather flame away, spouting off their own opinions about groups
they've probably hardly listened to.

So there's a new newsgroup.  Sorry, I'd rather it was all on 
one myself, too, but it doesn't look like that's going to work.
Sigh.


scott
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: amartell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Alex Martelli)
Subject: Proposal: alt.fan.raw
Summary: a group on Robert Anton Wilson
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:06:12 GMT

I'm sure I'm not the only fan of Robert Anton Wilson on the altnet.  Why
don't we set up a newsgroup to discuss his works and ideas?  "raw" would
seem a nice acronym (some way is surely needed to tell this group apart
from potential others on other Wilson's) and wordplay.  [BTW *is* he on
the net yet?  In Cosmic Trigger 2 he claims some paranoia about getting a
modem...].
I don't think I can set up an alt group from here, anyway I welcome
discussion & feedback (I hear mail to nyx gets lost occasionally, you may
prefer to mail me at alex@am.sublink.org, slower but more reliable).

--
Alex Martelli - preferred email alex@am.sublink.org
From: lkumar@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: RFD: alt.culture.kerala 
Date: 23 Jul 92 20:23:40 EDT
Followup-To: alt.config
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <1992Jul23.060542.19316@colorado.edu>, paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
> Name: alt.culture.kerala
>    
> Status: Unmoderated
> 
> Charter:
> 
> 1] 	To discuss the culture of the Keralite people including
>     the language malayalam, politics, religion, films, music,
>     literature and  news about the Keralite community 
>     across the world.
> 
> 2]  There is no forum at present on the usenet that serves
>     the purpose, despite the large number of people of 
>     Keralite origin in America and the rest of the world.
>     The general nature of soc.culture.indian and the 
>     high traffic associated with it, does not allow
>     free discussion of topics mentioned in 1], which

	I agree with the general nature of soc.culture.indian group.
        Also, considering the high volume of traffic in the
	news group, the proposed newsgroup can better serve the
	intended purpose.

	I agree with the proposal.
	
>     interest only a section of the total readership of sci.
> 
> 3]  As the target audience is not limited to u.s.a we 
>     propose to set distribution world wide.
> 
> 
> 	- Paul Chemmanoor,
>       Manu Komanamana.
> 
> 
> 

-- Laxman N. Kumar
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: gsh7w@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Hennessy)
Subject: alt.fan.dale-bass
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:28:49 GMT


Due to the bandwith consumed by Dale Bass in sci.physics, sci.energy,
sci.american, and the resulting flame wars, the net would be best
served by alt.fan.dale-bass.

I hereby issue a Call For Discussion.


Greg Hennessy
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Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.religion.kibology
From: bmarcum@world.std.com (Bill Marcum)
Subject: Re: All those darn *.kibo groups: what they're for.
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:20:23 GMT

And now, just when you thought it was safe to read news (if you ever did),
someone's gone and created:

alt.imploding.kibo!

Bill Marcum  bmarcum@world.std.com  GEnie:B.MARCUM

Newsgroups: alt.config,rec.arts.books
From: amartell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Alex Martelli)
Subject: Robert Anton Wilson
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 08:39:03 GMT

pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:

>>In article <1992Jul27.180612.13344@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> amartell@nyx.cs.du.edu (Alex Martelli) writes:
>>>I'm sure I'm not the only fan of Robert Anton Wilson on the altnet.  Why
>>>don't we set up a newsgroup to discuss his works and ideas?  "raw" would
	...
>Personally, I'd suggest starting a thread in rec.arts.books:  you might
>be surprised at the response.

I am taking Pete's suggestion and crossposting to r.a.b.  So, any interest

in Robert Anton Wilson, and about starting a newsgroup (probably in alt.)
about him and his works?
--
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: CFD: rmgroup alt.wolves
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:04:56 GMT


This group is completely invalid and follows no sense of hierarchy.  It wasn't
discussed before being created and contains traffic of about one message a
day.  This waste of space is of several magnitudes greater stupidity than
alt.music.enya ever was.  Why can't this topic be pushed under rec.pets if it
is so popular?  If not, why not just throw it into the alt.save.the.earth
catch-all?
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: Alt.fan.tolkien
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 19:07:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.145628.20590@news.columbia.edu> dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis) writes:
>In article <1992Jul23.041307.12954@leela.cs.orst.edu> kruegek@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Kirby Krueger) writes:
>>How does the net feel about creating a newsgroup for discussing the works
>>of J.R.R. Tolkien?  
>
>    The most remakable thing about a Tolkien group is that it has been 
>suggested so many times, and has still escaped creation. Usually wispering
>the name of a group _near_ a terminal is all that is needed to prompt 
>someone to create it.
>   I take this to mean two things. One is that those who would create a
>Tolkien group are mature enough to let the idea die when there is oposition
>to it, and that there is opposition to it.
>
>  I am a major Tolkien fan, but I don't really see the need for a Tolkien
>group. Not unless the various book groups are filled with Tolkien Talk.
>


	I don't know if I agree with your characterization of the reason
for the lack of a tolkien group.  I've never seen it brought up before,
although I've personally thought about it many times.  Personally, I think
that it has more to do with the fact that, for whatever reason, Tolkien fans
just don't think a Tolkien newsgroup would be that worthwhile, rather than
their "maturity" in letting the idea die whenever someone voices opposition
to it.  (If people drop their plans to form news groups every time someone
voiced opposition to it, no new alt. groups would ever be created.)
	I am both a fan and a scholar of Tolkien, Lewis, and the other
Inklings, but I personally don't feel that creating a Tolkien group would
provide for particularly interesting discussions.  But, maybe that's just  me
being a little snobbish.  
	
	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
From: dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Alt.fan.tolkien
Date: 24 Jul 92 19:50:53 GMT
Organization: Columbia University, Dept. of Biological Sciences.

In article <3667@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
>
>I would certainly carry a group for the "followers" of tolkien.  Newgroup
>alt.fan.tolkien if it interests you.
>
   But I think this is exactly what we don't want: people newgrouping 
because the group is of interest to them. We want groups that are of interest
to many people. The existence of many joke.groups is not evidence of anything.
   When people send out newgroups without discussion, we get poorly named
groups, or worse, groups that already exists in the rec hierarchy, or
something.

   I am just encouraging people to behave responsibly.

DanZ

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Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution:  world
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 01:36:29 GMT

jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU  writes:
> 	I heartily support Scott's suggestion that this group be called
> alt.music.progressive.metal rather than alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive!


Waaaaah.  I agree.  But the alt.r-n-r.metal.progressive one has been
created.  There's arguments for both sides, but it's kind of meaningless
now.  Damn.  Ah well.


s
damn damn damn
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.lycra
Followup-To: alt.config
Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:12:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.154610.1637@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> porsupah@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul26.170656.1619@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>, fenthe@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>
>>  Purpose: To discuss lycra in it's varying forms and uses; where to
>> get it, what to do with it, or just plain drool over people wearing
>> it..  <grin>
>
> A hearty nod of agreement from this corner. I look forward to seeing
>alt.lycra appear shortly.
>
I'm in favor, too.  (I hope it is understood that the charter of this 
newsgroup will include all forms of spandex and similar fiber blends
regardless of trademark names.)

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Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.rock-n-roll.metal,alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll.hard
From: jchokey@leland.Stanford.EDU (James Alexander Chokey)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 00:56:00 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.233618.11871@cs.unca.edu> mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner) writes:
>Shouldn't this be
>
>alt.music.progressive.metal ? 
>
>Seems like there should be a heirarchy, so people can find it!
>

	Well, if it were called alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive, it
would be part of the alt.r-n-r. hierarchy, but I think you do have a good
point.  Namely that if it were alt.music.progressive.metal instead of
alt.r-n-r.metal.progressive, it would emphasize that the group was
part of a progressive music hierarchy rather than part of the r-n-r.metal
hierarchy--  and I think that's a good idea.  
	I think that would help to clarify some of the ambiguities and
questions of overlap that people have been raising about this group--  it
would identify it as being about a metallic branch of progressive music,
rather than about a progressive branch of heavy metal.  (It's a subtle
distinction, but I do think it makes a difference.)  

	
	I heartily support Scott's suggestion that this group be called
alt.music.progressive.metal rather than alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive!

	--  Jim C. <jchokey@leland.stanford.edu>
From: mrl28033@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael R Linksvayer)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.fan.raw
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:28:28 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

There is a listserv that is also available as a newsgroup,
bit.listserv.fnord-l which I think is dedicated to RAW and
Leary although I tend not to read it because of the rants
which get old fast.

-- 
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From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Alt.fan.tolkien
Date: 25 Jul 92 07:45:06 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Jul24.195053.25430@news.columbia.edu>, dan@cubmol.bio.columbia.edu (Daniel Zabetakis) writes:
>    When people send out newgroups without discussion, we get poorly named
> groups, or worse, groups that already exists in the rec hierarchy, or
> something.

I'm sorry!  I didn't mean to cut this out of my previous followup.

I would like to point out that I don't believe that Tolkein proposal is
without discussion or is poorly named or duplicated elsewhere.

Terry
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