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From: grubin@virga.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Subject: Re: O'Bannon du Jour & New kid on the block...
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: Research Applications Program/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:57:03 GMT



matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>Now for the "It's almost basketball season, where's my newbie gun?" report...

>keithp@octel.com (Keith Perrin) wrote:
>[ about J. "Dr. Butthead to you" O. III, no less ]

>> Another east coast BUTTHEAD (Not to say that you all are).

>To which Rick Grubin wrote:
>> Hey, until you post something intelligent and related to either basketball
>> or the humour many here find in posting about it, shut the fuck up.  Get it?

>The very next posting is a followup of Trent Lange's masterful exposition
>on the reason UCLA chose not to participate in the final 3 PAC-10 tourneys
>by Keith Perrin...

>Trent wrote: 
>> UCLA, of course, won the first one.  And after having demonstrated that
>> they could dominate the Pac-10 tournament at will, just like any other
>> tournament, they decided it wasn't worth bothering with, concentrating
>> on academics instead...

>And Perrin wrote:

>> So its true. UCLA does conduct LSD experimentation on its students.

>Rick, does this qualified as humor?  I can't really answer it, since
>I just dropped some acid and I have to admit that my standards of 
>judgement are somewhat clouded.

Now how fair a question is this?  Like somebody from a state apparently
full of closet bigots and homophobes (at least Boulder isn't so bad) is
going to know what is funny and what is not.

Clearly, LSD experiments on the student body are not limited to UCLA.
Have you ever seen CU students, or better (worse?) yet, been one?  Nah,
in reality I should not have gotten worked up about the posting, but I
was 'shrooming and took leave of something or other.  The order of the
postings was apparently some cosmic stream of consciousness drug thing.

Now I think you know, Matthew, that I find much humour in the postings
from you and Trent (miss that Scott Turner!), and of course gArY, especially
when he attempts to be funny.  But I'll agree that Mr Perrin's reply to
Trent was funny.  Credit where credit is due, and all that.

>I'll shut up now.  I'm going off to play on my Helen Reddy CD backwards
>and listen for secret feminist messages.
>!raor em reaH  .namoW ma I

Hey, listen to your Aussie recording backwards while tripping and let us
all know if they are saying "yo yo yo", ok?

--
Rick Grubin     grubin@ncar.ucar.edu
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Student seating
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:31:33 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.201450.20587@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G  
G ZIPFEL) writes:
> 	I wonder if the Duke alumns would trade the extra wins for
> 	better seats? I doubt it...

Nope.  I'm happy to be upstairs.  If somebody is paying more each
year than tuition, then maybe they can quarrel :), and there are
no bad seats in Cameron.

> "I didn't lose, the Team lost..." - Coach

	"...and then I got fired."

--
************** "Frank, shut up and push the button" **************
Orin Day, Code 664.1                    oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov
Hughes STX/NASA       GSFC Laboratory for High Energy Astrophysics
*******"Think that this is NASA's opinion?   NO, NO, NO!!!" ******
From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Polls, polls, polls
Date: 10 Nov 92 13:10:18
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
	<1992Nov10.185045.4462@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: cork.cs.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: wingfiel@lonestar.utsa.edu's message of Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:50:45 GMT

>>>>> "Kevin" == Kevin J. Wingfield <wingfiel@lonestar.utsa.edu> writes:
>	If you think Georgetown is ranked too high, you haven't heard
>about our new recruits, especially Othella Harrington.  He's the next
>Dikembe, Mourning, and Ewing.	Look out Big East!!
>
>	--D. Mix
  Kevin>                 But Harrington is in his first yr
  Kevin>                 the three you listed were not an
  Kevin>                 impact in their first yr's
  Kevin>                 so how do you figure this guy will.
  Kevin>                 Ewing had the most impact of the
  Kevin>                 three as a freshman...so don't expect

I don't know. Throwing James Worthy's shit into the 3rd row during the NCAA
finals sounds like a pretty big impact to me.
--
xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU  	Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez

They can't come on and play me in prime time, 	    | Free Millipede coin op
Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine.	    | and House music at my
I get on the mix late in the night... -Public Enemy | place! Drop by sometime.
From: godschmf@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Kentucky TV schedule anyone?
Date: 7 Nov 92 17:26:10 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

Hi!
Does anyone have the TV schedule for Kentucky?  I'd really appreciate it!
Also, has anyone read Pitino's book?  I'm thinking of buying it for my brother,
any recommendations?
Thanks, 
mary
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From: costley@solo.eng.hou.compaq.com (Brett Costley)
Subject: Re: A Look Ahead at the ACC: UNC
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:03:26 GMT

In article <Bx94B1.8Hu@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:
>
>>In article <Bx7DHI.LoA@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>>>TRIVIA QUESTION: Name the four UNC players who went pro early.
>>>	Here's my shot:  Michael Jordan, James Worthy, JR Reid, and Bob McAdoo.
>
>>Right on target.  Now I'll REALLY be impressed if you can name all of the other
>>ACC players who left school early to go pro.  Hint: there are 13 more, 5 of
>>whom are the Maryland players that I mentioned in an earlier post.
>
>	OK... let's see... I can think of a few:
>	(mostly fairly recent)
>
>	Wake Forest:  Kenny Green
>	NC State: Chris Washburn, Charles Shackleford

Georgia Tech: Dennis Scott (Jr) and Kenny Anderson (So)
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From: ddn@cbnews.cb.att.com (david.d.nason)
Subject: Big10 Preseason
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:06:03 GMT

For those who are anxious for Big10 woofing data, the preseason
is about to start.  This year, the Big-10 will whip up on
an Attorney, the Christians, a Gas Station, a host of National teams,
and others that I can't even identify.  Schedule info reprinted
from the NCAA Preview Guide - Big 10 Issue.

It might be interesting for folks to post the scores of these games.

david

Russian National Team
=====================
11/16 - Illinois
11/17 - Wisconsin
11/18 - Michigan State
11/19 - Michigan
11/22 - Purdue
11/24 - Ohio State
11/25 - Penn State

Athletes in Action
==================
11/20 - Michigan State
11/21 - Ninnesota

Marathon Oil
============
11/16 - Iowa
11/21 - Northwestern
11/22 - Iowa *and* Wisconsin (quite a feat, eh?)

The Layfayette Hustlers (whoever the hell they are)
=======================
11/16 - Purdue
11/17 - Ohio State

Cuban National Team
===================
11/18 - Iowa
11/30 - Indiana

Ragnon Attorney AAU
===================
11/23 - Michigan

Finland National Team
=====================
11/18 - Northwestern

Ukraine National Team
=====================
11/25 - Minnesota
Xref: sparky rec.sport.basketball.college:16460 alt.licker.store:40
From: franklir@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Ryan J Franklin )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,alt.licker.store
Subject: Re: Polls, polls, polls
Summary: This summary is self-referential.  But that one wasn't.
Keywords: basketball, lemurs, lorises, duct tape, Spam, Kib*, and blood
Date: 10 Nov 92 07:10:44 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Nov10.064808.15290@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley ) writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.023936.25211@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>>And Rob and I know the only basketball "poll" you can trust is Coach K.
>
>Coach K?????? He must mean Leader Kibo!
>
>Leader Kibo (19??-14??), DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM!ist philosopher,
[list of Kibo's scintillating accomplishments deleted, including some
weird subliminal stuff about gerbils and duct tape]

Kibo's not coaching this year, it cuts into his gambling.  Something about
a rulebook, I think.

>At least you got a DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM!ist into your post
>this time.  You're learning how to post here!

For the last time, WILL YOU **SHUT UP** about "DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM!"!!
Sheesh!  It's not even a DYING thread, it's already fossilized!  

(See, you're even getting ME to use capital letters and exclamation points.
What a revolting development.  Sort of like Sun City, I guess.)

>	See you at the licker store!
>	Jason
>	Vice-President, There Is No Point To This Newsgroup Foundation

....and that would make the President....who?  Not The Special K himself,
I trust.  He's got enough problems, what with the moldy Twinkies(tm) and
Spam...er....moldy Spam and Twinkies(tm) arriving by the truckload.  Did 
you know he has to shake each and every can individually to see if it
makes the proper noise?

	-- Ryan Franklin
	   franklir@gas.uug.arizona.edu

ObCollegeBasketball:  Um...er...I heard the U of A was ranked 10th in its
division, or something like that.  <shrug>  
This is a lame line added to move the cursor to the right
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From: bsricker@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN SCOTT RICKER)
Subject: Re: Recruiting
Originator: bsricker@c00081-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: bsricker@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN SCOTT RICKER)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:43:02 GMT


Just a quick note ...

   The Raleigh News and Destroyer mentioned that Jason Sutton is reconsidering 
his oral commitment to ECU.  Evidently both Wake Forest and N.C. State (after
losing out on some major recruits) have entered back into the picture.

Cheers,
B
From: wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: ACC Recruiting
Date: 5 Nov 1992 08:24:28 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: im4u.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1db4qtINNsqv@rave.larc.nasa.gov> cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell) writes:
|
|The Cavaliers are only carrying 14 players on it's roster this season.

How many players is a team allowed to carry?  The team that I am most
familiar with is Villanova and I have never known them to have more than
12 players on the team.  This year I don't think that they will have more
than *9* scholorship players, they will have to get some walk-ons to
practice!  Luckily, they need guards and walk-on guards are a lot easier
to find than walk-on centers or forwards.  I sure wish Rollie had left
the program I little more intact when he left...

BTW, can anyone from Villanova post the team roster?  Here are the players
that I can think of:

Lance Miller     (SG)
James Bryson     (C)
Anthony Pelle    (C)
anon. big soph.  (?)
Aaron Bain       (SF)
Calvin Byrd      (SF)

Yeah, they have some holes to fill.  Rollie took the highly recruited
freshman PG with him to UNLV :(.  I know that two freshmen are coming
to 'Nova this year, not sure if they got a third(or fourth, or fifth).
It's too bad, this is a good core of players.

Rick
From: gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UNC, Duke, and ACC Trivia
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:30:47 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

In article <1992Nov5.170642.19923@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>
>Another UNC trivia question:
>
>What were the three years in ACC History in which the 'Heels failed
>to post a winning record in conference?  (Which year brought an 
>overall losing record?)

	Hmmm.  1961, '62, '63, with '61 being on the bottom?  I think those
were Dean-o's first three years after the point-shaving scandal.

>
>And a Duke question:
>
>How many years did it take Duke to sink to last place in the ACC
>after its inception?  (How many times did Duke finish 8th, or tied
>for 7th?  Who was Duke's coach that year?)

	I think the only three years Duke finished last were '75, '76, '77.
Since the ACC started in '54, that's 21 years.  I don't know who was coach
the first year (a former assistant to Bucky Waters who only coached one year,
I think) but it was Bill Foster in '76 and '77.  In '78 they won the con-
ference and went to the FF.

>
>And a Bonus question:
>
>What is the ACC's Final Four National Championship Winning Percentage
>(i.e., # of ACC NC's / # of ACC trips to Final Four)?  (It might be
>interesting to see the number for other conferences...) 

	That is a toughie...there are 6 NCs (two each for UNC, NCState and
Duke).  Duke has been to the FF 10 times.  Ga. Tech went once, in '90.
I think NCState only went the two times they won.  UVa twice, in '81 and
'85.  Clemson, never.  South Carolina, I don't think while in the conference
(or indeed ever).  Wake Forest, I think went once in the early '60s.  I 
think the same for Maryland.  Florida State went in '72, but that was before
they were in the conference, so it doesn't count.  UNC...I believe went 11
times, but I could be wrong.  That makes 6/28, or about 21%.  Just a touch
below average.

>Orin Day, Code 664.1                    oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov
--
gharris@jade.tufts.edu          
George W. Harris              	"He'd kill us if he had the chance."  
Dept. of Mathematics            
Tufts University              			The Conversation  
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From: timlin@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Timlin)
Subject: Re: Student seating
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 21:56:55 GMT

piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (G G ZIPFEL) writes:

>	Read: The University of Illinois at Champaign Urbana.
>	The crummy side of the floor (with the press boxes between
>	the B and A sections) is given to the students, while
>	the "Fat Cats" sit on their derrieres on the good side.

>	The alumns (including myself) complain about the lack
>	of a real home court advantage, but the truth is, the
>	students are put in a section where the game seems about
>	as close as a 10 inch tv seems big.

>	The only goos thing at Illinois is the Orange Crush section 
>	which is really a few disjointed sections of floor seats. In
>	order to get these seats, one must "try out" and promise to
>	attend every game.

>	I wonder if the Duke alumns would trade the extra wins for
>	better seats? I doubt it...

Actually, some students do get seats on the floor.  In my 2nd year of
grad school, I got tickets with 2 other grad students and we had the 
max number of points (year in school + # of past season tickets etc.)
When we heard that we managed seats on the floor, we thought it would
be great, but the fourth row with no risers is no place to watch a 
game.  From our seats we could only see the heads of the players on our
side of the court.  AND worst of all we weren't allowed to stand unless
the people in front of us stood! (then we couldn't even see the rims)

Mike Timlin
timlin@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,talk.bizarre,alt.licker.store
From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Brush With Greatness, Act II
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 21:34:11 GMT


Warning: This, and the following set of posts, is intended for the less
sensitive readers of the net.  If you are easily offended, press "n" now.

Act II: The Chase

Dean was lucky the first time, as I pursued him, hair tussled
from Lobster-Hat once removed, down the smoke-filled hallways of
Cameron.  But the feisty Monty Hall individual eluded me, and a
security guard turned me into a newt just for following the Dean.
I got better though.  So I figured, wait 'til next year, and heard
"you don't want that asshole to sign your shirt".  But I knew better
and had seen better and would make better on my mission.

Cut to Denver, at a shadowy hotel without a name.  The Royal Blue
school had advanced to the Final Four, and had made its annual
asshole commute to the mountains, where 3.2 beer was available to
us youngsters, in stark contrast to the dark gothic prohibition
previously only seen in remakes of Batman and Mr. Smith Goes To
New Orleans (--> w/team w/o Curtis).  Standing in the lobby, non
drinking our non-mint non-Juleps, we spotted the MAN, appearing
in a cloud of smoke, which was emanating from a chain smoking
Larry Stogner.  This was my big chance, but the shirt was far
away.  Little did I know the reign of terror it would led to -
unmatched except by the reign of terror propagated by Cardinal
Ximinez of Spain that make for a smashing film.  But I digress.
The only choice was to contact the man in his room, and the
security would be tight.  Reviewing old episodes of the Patty
Astin (nee Royal and Blue) Show on my official Chem-Study Royal
and Blue University issued wrist Color Watchman with built in 8mm
Exabyte/Video tape drive, compact disc player, and 35 MHz RISC
DECStation, I figured that going  into the old man's room under a
room service cart as Patty and her identical, missing, presumed dead,
cousin did to see Elvis naked just wouldn't work.  As Dean might be
naked.  So I left a note at the desk instead (Truly).

					March 29, 1990

	Dear Coach Smith,

	Welcome to Denver!  I hope you had a pleasant flight.

	I am a [Royal and Blue] University student who is a big
	fan of yours, and would like to obtain your autograph on
	a shirt I have had signed by many ACC and NCAA Coaches.

	Please call me at Room 218 if you have any free time,
	and could meet me at some point this week-end.

			Sincerely,

			Orin Day


But I was spurned by Dean, as he never returned my note, instead
choosing to have his Cadillac hit by a Royal and Blue University
Bus.  My work was cut out for me if I was to get it.  Future
attempts at Indoor Stadium passes proved pointless, and even the
discovery of the net (where I was pulled in by the posts of a strange
man with a tic on the caps-lock key) so the next chapter started soon
thereafter.

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From: hsong%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Hwal Song)
Subject: Re: UM - MSU - Big 10
Date: 13 Nov 92 15:47:41 MST
Organization: University of Utah CS Dept
Distribution: usa

Can anyone post Michigan State basketball schedule?
Thank you.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: jlindqui@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (A Professional Tom Wopat Impersonator)
Subject: Re: Worst ACC Refs: You damn rooks - by Curtis Hill
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:21:34 GMT

oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:


>Note: This item is posted on behalf of Curtis Hill, who is currently
>	without the ability to post.


>I'm so glad that many of my ACC brethren can pick on the obvious targets
>of Wirtz and Paparo when singling out bad refereeing.


>How about you guys listing some of the guys who really aren't that great.
>I'm no huge fan of Paparo and Wirtz, but they are fair (mostly) and
>consistent (surprisingly).

>Wirtz annoys me with his calls, but they are consistent.  Sort of like
>an umpire with a bad, but consistent strike zone.  The T on Calipari
>during the East Regional was out of line, though.

I dunno, but from my experience coaches are set off more by inconsistency
than bad calls.  If that strike zone is crappy but consistent, it can be
worked with.  If a ref's going to call pitty-pat touch fouls, then if it's
consistently called against both teams, you _can_ live with it.  For physical
teams, it's a pain in the ass, but it can be done...

-- 
Jason A. Lindquist		University of Illinois at Champaign-Urbana				"You could return to the Academy, take another degree,	  linky@uiuc.edu	 brush up on your Latin,"
			"And be Wesley Crusher's roommate."
			  --Deanna Troi, Young Jean-Luc Picard, "Rascals",
			    Season Six
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: No NCAA sanctions against UM
Organization: American Math. Society
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:20:31 GMT


The NCAA has ruled that the activities Michigan players engaged in are
against NCAA rules, but that since so many other universities also
misinterpreted the same rules, no sanctions will be levied.

Yes!!  Bring on Dook!



-Alan Harder
 
These opinions are mine.  You can't have them.  Stop, thief!

Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: will@ogre.cica.indiana.edu (William Sadler)
Subject: Re: Who is the worst ref?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:36:51 GMT

In <Nov10.221602.47329@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> guest@ulysses.atmos.colostate.edu (Guest) writes:

>>> I vote for the retired Jim Bain of the Big Ten.
>>
>>	Make that two votes for blind Baines.

>I whole-heartedly concur:  JIM BAIN is the biggest piece o' 'hit to step on a
>court. I remember a screw job that he performed on Iowa about 10 years ago.
>This was only one of many........Bains should be elected to the all-time hall
>of officiating shame.

And I'll add another vote.  At least he's gone now.

Will 
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From: arminius@soc2.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Ode to the Mighty Jayhawks
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:47:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.6711
Reply-To: arminius@soc2.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter)


In article <92309.193900AMK114@psuvm.psu.edu>, AMK114@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

|> Who would ever doubt the ability of the MIGHTY JAYHAWKS?  With Roy Williams
|> at control, and a bench that lasts a country mile.  Watch out Michigan and DUKE
|> here come the JAYHAWKS.  Just listen to the "GREAT ONE", Dick "Boom boom,
|> Astronomical" Vitale.  For those of you that are not up to date on Mr. Vitale's
|> picks:  He's got KANSAS ALL THE WAY BABY!
|> ROCK, CHALK, JAYHAWKS
|> 
|> Cortesy of BUCK and KROTT
|> 
|> PS. Beware of the Phoggy confines of the Allen Field House!
|> 
 He also had Indiana all the way last year, and UNLV the year before. He seems
mainly to be good at picking who Duke will beat in the Final Four. After last
year's collapse against the Miners(UTEP!!!), I wonder if they have the sort
of mental edge to overcome the traditional 'fade down the stretch of the Big
Blue system'. On the other hand, at least good Kansas teams mean we don't
have to see Billy Tubbs.
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