From: sadi@physics1 (Sadi Turgut)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: What kind of people are Turks?
Date: 18 Aug 1992 00:20:07 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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After reading this article written by Virrankoski, I got a clear opinion
about the state of mind of this particular person and how screwed up it is,
BUT I didn't generalize this to *all* people in Finland or *all* Russians, since
I know that one person cannot be representative of a whole population. So,
I won't sink to the level of this person and I will confine my small reply
to this particular person...

In article <VVIRRANK.92Aug17153358@klaava.Helsinki.FI> vvirrank@cc.Helsinki.FI (Ville Virrankoski) writes:
>
>After reading couple of articles written by H.B.Mutlu and also
>bunch of answers to them and again Mutlu's answers etc.
>I got a clear opinion what kind of people Turks are.

 Mutlu is not whole Turkey Mister. I suggest either change your way
of thinking or don't state them on USENET.

>
>They are:
>
>-LIERS, they present clear lies and when someone catch their lies,
>        they change subject.
>
>-FORGERS, they 'borrow' part of the articles and 'forget' another part
>        depending what is suitable for them, changing totally what
>        writer of the article said in the style:
>        Writing in the book: Armenians was killed by Turks.
>        Mutlu's quota:       Armenians killed Turks.
>        (This quotation came from my imagination, but You got the point)
>
>-RACIST they are full of racial and religious hatred toward Greeks and
>        Armenians.
>
>-REVISIONIST they want to change writing of history; not anymore based
>        with facts but nationalism and politics.
>
>-MISBEHAVING if someone presents facts that they are wrong, they start
>        insulting that one. If someone didn't agree with them, they
>        imagine there are some kind of plot against them and those
>        opposing them are liers, propagandists, terrorist, etc.
>
>-WITHOUT ANY SENSE OF HUMOR Anyone reading Tom Tedrick's article could
>        sense irony of history, but Turks couldn't...
>
>

 These are all nonsense. See above.

>If all Turks are like HBM, I strongly wish they will stay within their
>current borders. And I also hope they don't either travel like tourists
>anywhere. And that no-one should ever visit Turkey, because those traits
>may spread...

 First you state that Turks are like Mutlu, now you insert a little "if."
What is it Mister? you couldn't decide who is who yet?

>(Personally, I could some day visit ancient Constantinopolis but I hope
>as little contacts as possible with modern Istambul.)

 I hope you never go to Turkey Mister. First, it won't gain you anything with
your current level of thinking. Second, Turkey is still fairly clean of
pseudo-Europeans like you. So, keep it that way.

>Stop humiliating Turks, Hasan B. Mutlu!

 Stop attacking a whole people! I am slowly getting more and more angrier
to the stuff you people call "anti-Mutlu." I clearly understand you don't like
Mutlu and have a problem with him. But this in no way justifies calling a
whole people "liars," "racists," or anything like this.

 In the past I stayed silent, when people suggested deporting
all Turks. I stayed silent, when people justified Armenian terrorism and
suggested that they should have killed all the Turks. I stayed silent,
when people suggested a genocide to be perpetuated on Turks. But, for one
more time, I don't know if I still can keep silence. If such a stupid
person comes up in the future, Don't blame me if I show a strong reaction.
(Think about what can I do.)

 Stop being stupid. Mutlu is not the main problem. The problem is you. Who cares
if you agreed with Mutlu or not. Who cares if you believe him or not. Just
don't be a low life. If you have a problem with Mutlu, then you have a problem
with Mutlu, and nobody else. Either concentrate on him, or SHUT UP!!! You are
the ONES who are changing our image, and more importantly, our image of you!


>V.Virrankoski

 And, Mister, don't call me humor impaired, if that is what you intended
with this article. It does not look really "funny" on this side.


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