HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: History of family name
Date: 26 Jul 92 13:54:58 GMT
Organization: Software Programming, Inc., Dallas, Texas USA

kingw@fraser.sfu.ca (King Rio Wong) writes:

>>I received something interesting in mail today.  A publishing company offers
>>to sell me a book called, "The World book of Lams," which is not yet
>>published.

>Seems that I am not the only one who receive such an offer.  Are they
>publishing books for other family names other than the "Lams"? (I thought they
>were sending letters to everybody using a computer to change the title "The
>World Book of ?????" to the person's lastname... ;-)  I don't see anything 
>interesting with the book anyways.  Just a bunch of names and addresses, a
>few pieces of article, and a picture of your family's "coat of arm".  When
>have the Chinese families started to have their coat of arms, anyways???

I am not sure about the city you are staying but in Texas
there are a few of these "Computerized Family Origin" services in 
shopping malls. The service will output your entire family's histiry base 
on your last name.  The history is printed on a specially make paper
to make it look real professional and "old" so you can frame it 
up and put it in the living room, I suppose.  I think the same
company wants to investigate the possibility of doing similar 
thing for the Asian market and the "Book of Lam" is their first testbed.

P.S. After the new Census in 1990, the Asian American has became a
	very hot market to marketers.  AT&T, MCI and United
	Airlines, etc. are spending big bucks to advertize in the
	Asian market.
-- 
John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)           - No news is bad news.
From: cheung@mathcs.emory.edu (Shun Yan Cheung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Warning (was: Re: Ooh La La)
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:45:46 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

In article <l7c23iINN1ka@spim.mips.com> yhmok@hornet.mips.com 
(Yeuk-Hai -Shark- Mok) writes:
'In article <5183@transfer.stratus.com>, 
'cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas D. Cheung) writes:
'|> If you have X-window, run the following program.  I promise it is not
'|> a obscene picture.
'|> 
'|> ------ Cut Here --------
'[...... deleted]
'
'Cannot run this!  can you post the source or put it in some ftp site?
'
'	Shark at SGI

Never try to run a binary program on an arbitrary system. It's stupid and
dangerous. You never know what the `instructions' will do - as you may
know, machines X and Y's instruction codes are incompatible. Also, you
are risking introducing a virus into your system and that is dangerous.
So NEVER EVER run any BINARY program off the net. Insist on getting the
source and compile it locally.
-- 
Shun Yan Cheung     |  cheung@mathcs.emory.edu      | Office: (404) 727-3823
Emory University    |  cheung@emory.bitnet          | Fax:    (404) 727-5611
Dept of Math and CS |  "Life deals you different suits. It's up to you how
Atlanta, GA 30322   |   to play them".
From: YOUNG@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (Charles Young)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Fortune cookies, sushis, eggrolls etc.
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:17:54 GMT
 <1992Jul24.133833.22878@cs.rochester.edu>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <1992Jul24.133833.22878@cs.rochester.edu>, luk@cs.rochester.edu
(Steve Luk) says:
>
>In article <19521@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou)
>writes:
>>Hi guys,
>>
>>   I just thought of a very interesting question, at least to me...
>>   Where in the world did FORTUNE COOKIES come from??????????
>>
>As far as I can tell, FC came from some Chinese restaurants in San
>Francisco, CA. Why? I don't know! Seems to me that this brilliant
>person merged the famous Chinese Food with one of our traditional
>fortune telling techniques to make this.
>BTW, I have heard that FC comes with different flavors now. Do they
>have strawberry flavor? B-)
>
>>
>>   I am also wondering why the people here define "sushi" as raw
>>   fish?  I've had so many sushis in my life and never once did
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>   I see any sign of fish in my sushis!  (well, maybe dried fish
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Perhaps because fresh fish is difficult to come by in Arizona?
 :-)

>>   or something like that)
>>
>Strange! Most of the sushi's I've seen and eaten are made up of fishs (eel,
>tuna, yellowtail, etc), shrimps, crab meat, octopus or squid.
>Though there some egg, beef sushi's, I like the seafood sushi's
>better. B-P
>
>>   Brandon
>>--
>>Brandon S. Ou               Computer Science
>>University of Arizona       Tucson, Arizona
>>Internet:  bsou@caslon.cs.arizona.edu
>>" It's up to YOU... "  - Kevin Costner as Jim Garrison, "JFK"
>>
>
>Steve
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: mak@hercules.cs.uregina.ca (.... Bugs Bunny .....)
Subject: Amy Hui
Reply-To: mak@hercules.uregina.ca (.... Bugs Bunny .....)
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Saskatchewan
Distribution: World
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:32:46 GMT

Hi there,

    One of my friends told me that Amy Hui was commit suicide.  Is there
    anyone out there can give me more information? 'cause that Amy Hui was
    one of my friends in high school.

Allan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re:  HKer's opinion on U.S. election
From: raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu (Raymond Man)
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:58:09 MST
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson

leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung):
>cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas D. Cheung) writes:
>|> ...
>|> I wouldn't attempt to write the original line in Chinese.  It is even harder to
                                    ^^^^^^^^
>|> understand when it comes to ancient language.  What a pity.
>
>Why not? I think it's pretty easy:
>    Shou Sheng[,] Chia Ka[,] Ji Kwok[,] Ping Tin Ha.

I think Douglas mean to come across in English. Few could have
understood what you wrote even if you lost that accent. :-)

>    Cultivate oneself, manage the family, adminster the country, and
>    rule/bring_peace_to the world.

Of course this literal translation helps a lot, but this is not the original,
but a condensed line anyway.

>Right?
>
>Steven

The original text just for that much is 32 characters long. With my
ability in phonetics, not to say accent, I shall not even attempt to
put it here.

HKU has published a translation by James Legge:
"	The ancients who wished to illustrate illustrious virtue
throughout the kingdom, first ordered well their own States. Wishing
to order well their States, they first regulated their families. Wish-
ing to regulate their families, they first cultivated their persons."

This passage continues to Gart Mud (differentiate things) and then goes
backward to return to Ming Tak (illustrate virtue). This is sort of the
Alpha-Omega of the Way, the Great Learning, and so became the motto of HKU.
By the same token, Alpha-Beta is the motto of another higher instititue.
I believe the choosing of the motto had been carefully thought out.

-- 
Just call me `Man'. 
"And why take ye thought for "    --   Matt. 6:28
raymond@jupiter.ame.arizona.edu
Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:9161 soc.culture.china:20818
From: stacc0@quantum.fiu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Fundamental problem of China (Was Re: after 1997...)
Date: 23 Jul 92 13:57:29 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.hongkong
Organization: Florida International University, Miami


In article <1992Jul21.031938.28689@oracle.us.oracle.com> kwee@oracle.uucp (Karl
|Wee) writes:
|Private citizens and groups tend to own "end user" types of products and
|services

Yes, and I also tend to think the demand side always get the short end
of the stick. But it seems most of times it's the one who controls the
market or even creates the demand that makes big money. One reason may
be that utility companies's workers still have to buy the end product
and services. Any netter cares to give more convincing arguments?
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Help ! N Y Giants fan looking for "air" time in HK !
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:57:24 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

alaw@oracle.com (Alvin W. Law) writes:

>You can try your luck by taping CNN early Tuesday morning.  Also you
>can purchase USA Today for about $7 a copy.  Get the Tuesday copy for
                                  ^^^

HK$7 ~ us$1.  (just want to clarify that--so we wont scare our friend
away).

>complete coverage and Sunday NFL action.

Yours Sincerely,
Kelvin
e-mail:abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Repost FAQ of this group?
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:47:19 GMT
Organization: Software Programming, Inc., Dallas, Texas USA

u2116318@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>as the subject say can some one repost 
>the FAQ file for this newsgroup?

Okay.  From now on the SCHK will be reposted on the second and
fourth week of the month.  
-- 
John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)           - No news is bad news.
From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Hong Kong New Airport Info required
Date: 30 Jul 92 01:42:23 GMT
Organization: Software Programming, Inc., Dallas, Texas USA

ctsang@bmdhh315.bnr.ca (Chi Tsang) writes:

>Hello,

>I want some information regarding the impact of HK New Airport
>on HK properties market. Is there any HK government office in UK
>from which I can obtain those information ?

Check with the Hong Kong Trade Development Counil in London.
Their number is  828-1661 or 828-9976.
-- 
John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)           - No news is bad news.
From: poon@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Ka-Cheong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Information on UW-Madison
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:52:06 GMT
Reply-To: poon@schaefer.UUCP (Ka-Cheong)
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

In article <1992Jul24.205000.7594@unixg.ubc.ca> wlee@unixg.ubc.ca (Wendy Lee) writes:
>   I had studied 1st year Engineering in UW-Madison for 1 year(90-91).
>In my opinion, this university is generally a good university while
>the tuition fees is not expensive, compared with other universities in
>the states. But the weather in Madison is really very cold in winter
>time. So if one decides to go to UW-Madison, one should consult with

I think the weather is better than Minnesota (:

>students there for more details about what should bring from HK. Also,
>Madison is a university-town. So it is quite boring to study there as not
>many activites can be done under such cold weather. It is undoubtedly that

Do you have time to do things other than studying (:  Well, people usually 
leave Madison in term breaks.

>UW-Madison is a beautiful and quiet place for one to concentrate on the
>studies.

Have fun!!!

								Poon.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Ooh La La II
From: clooi@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:48:27 CDT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

In article <5188@transfer.stratus.com>, cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas D. Cheung) writes:
> My apologies for the first post of Ooh La La.  I sent it
> in binary form which did not go through in email.  I have
> use uuencode to encode the executable file.
> 
> Some one also mentioned that I should not post executable
> file on the net because people work on different hardware
> platform.  Well, I am going to try this for the last time
> since I screw up the first time.  I guess it kind of makes
> sense not to send 700+ lines of not so important stuff
> all over the country.
> 
> If you are interested, save it and then uudecode the file.
> 
> The executable file name is big
> 
> Sorry for the first screw-up.  
> 

I did try to use uudecode, but when I type "big",  I got the
following message.
  big: Non-ASCII shell script (may be cross-compiler object).

Anyone get the same error message?  Does anyone know what did 
I do wrong.  Thank you.

Fu
From: yhmok@hornet.mips.com (Yeuk-Hai -Shark- Mok)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Ooh La La
Date: 29 Jul 1992 02:54:42 GMT
Organization: MIPS Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hornet.mips.com

In article <5183@transfer.stratus.com>, cheung@strider.hw.stratus.com (Douglas D. Cheung) writes:
|> If you have X-window, run the following program.  I promise it is not
|> a obscene picture.
|> 
|> For those don't know how to save and run a program, 
|> 1) Type [s] to save.
|> 2) Answer [n] to the question of ... mbox format...
|> 3) After leaving news, emacs Soc.culture.hongkong in your /News directory
|> 4) Delete all the lines above and including "Cut Here".
|> 5) Save the file in your favorite boyfriend/girlfriend's name, ex. Amazon.
|> 6) Change attribute to executable file.
|> 7) Type your favorite boyfriend/girlfriend's name.
|> 
|> Enjoy.
|> ------ Cut Here --------
[...... deleted]

Cannot run this!  can you post the source or put it in some ftp site?

	Shark at SGI
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: The name of book about China culture
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:26:51 GMT

tcheung@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tak Cheung) writes:
|> A minor note, Sun Lung Kei was a Ph.D. student at Stanford.
|> 
|> Interesting personality, he and I were at Stanford about the same period.
|> 
|> Unclear his current whereabout.
|> 
|> He wrote a number of books about differences in western and Chinese
|> culture, and a bit controversial.
|> 
|> Does anyone know where he is now ??

This is from Sonford's original posting:
> The author is called Sun Lung Kei who is believed in Hamilton, Western
> Ontario, Canada now.

Steven
------
328. Seek opportunity, not security. ...
        - Life's Little Instruction Book by H. J. Brown, Jr.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,rec.arts.sf.movies
From: yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung)
Subject: Re: Are there any Hong Kong SF movies?
Organization: R-Node Public Access UNIX System (416-249-5366) - 24 hrs
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:54:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.200229.4763@cs.brown.edu> gcl@cs.brown.edu (George Lo) writes:
>In article <1992Jul19.161824.18095@r-node.gts.org>, yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung) writes:
>|> 
>|> There are two reasons for the lack of sci-fi movie in HK: 1) They don't
>|> have the budget for the FX. HK's movie budget are small even when 
>|> compare to US's TV standard. 2) HK's movie audience enjoy mindless
>|> action drible. Common sense are not welcome, let alone science.
>
>No matter how big the budget the US TV has, I still found them
>very very boring.  Actors' skill is so low and the plot is
>always about polygonal love.
>

Everybody is entitle to their opinion. Personally, I will be jumping with
joy if HK's movie ever reach a tenth of US's TV quality. As for acting
quality, I have yet to see anybody in HK anywhere close to a decent level.

>I personally like the movie by Andy Lau very much, it is called
>1992 Shen Diu ...  One needs very good imagination to watch
>the movie.  The plot is not related to any time frame.  The
>martial art in the movie is pretty good, obviously not as good
>as those by Li Lin Jie but Andy Lau really did a very good job.
>The special effect is very interesting and the whole movie moved
>very fast.
>I suppose a lot of people who loved love story have to disagree
>with me but this is just due to different personal taste.
>
>On the contrary, I found US movie to be seriously violent and
>sex-related.  The plot is always very similar.  Take an ex,
>the martial art skill by van Damme can't be compared with Li
>Lin Jie.  Those movies just full of explosions.  It is very 
>true that the budget is very high, but I really doubt that if
>more explosion and cheap and gross fighting scenes really help
>make better movies.
>

Well, if all you watch is Van Damme then it is your lost. Try Boys in the
Hood, Amadeus, Killing Fields, Abyss, The last tempatation of Christ, Last
Emperor, Jungle Fever, ......


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Amos Yung          | Macintosh Jr.: The power to crush the other kid.
yung@r-node.gts.org| 
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From: w246375@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Help from a helpless!
Date: 21 Jul 92 10:31:25 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Special request!!!
Could anyone out there, especially in Hong Kong, tell me the weather
forecast for July 21 & 22 (h.k.Time), please?
You may e-mail me personnally and any effort is appreciated!!
Thanks in advance!

Winny
:<

Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:9121 rec.arts.sf.movies:5916
From: poon@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Ka-Cheong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Are there any Hong Kong SF movies?
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:11:24 GMT
Reply-To: poon@schaefer.UUCP (Ka-Cheong)
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin Dept. of Mathematics

In article <1992Jul19.210636.6199@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> thomason@quebec.egr.msu.edu (Faran Thomason) writes:

[Deleted]
>I Love Maria (aka Roboforce) is a Scifi/Robot movie starring Tsui Hark(the 
>directior of (Zu Warriors and various other films). 

Is it really good?  I didn't see it.  But I heard some film critics said that
it was just a HK edition of Robocop.

>How do you define sci-fi ?

If you think it is a SF, it is a SF (:

Have fun!!!

								Poon.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: s90500km@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Kentarou Masuda)
Subject: E-mail at C.U. hk
Organization: Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus.
Distribution: soc
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 09:02:04 GMT

Hi everyone 

I am a studento of KEIO Univ. SFC in Japan 

I go to H.K. and Chinese Univ. 24th July.

  Stay ChunChi collage 2month till 31 Aug!

 Please tell me how to use e-mail in C.U.!!


Masuda Kentaro  Psycology Bldg ChunChi collage C.U, H.K. 

                 Shatin HONGKONG
From: shlam@eng.ie.cuhk.hk (Alan S H Lam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Our new governor Chris Patten will visit our U. tomorrow
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:21:47 GMT
Organization: Faculty of Engineering, The Chinese U. of Hong Kong


Our new governor Chris Patten will visit our U. tomorrow.
He may read this news group.
Would you like to say something to him?


--
Alan S. H. Lam
Department of Information Engineering, CUHK, Hong Kong
E-mail: shlam@eng.ie.cuhk.hk 
Tel: (852) 609 7975 Fax: (852) 603 5032
Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:9300 soc.culture.asian.american:7207
From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Re: A hot market (was: History of family name)
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:29:42 GMT
Organization: Software Programming, Inc., Dallas, Texas USA

hiebeler@think.com (Dave Hiebeler) writes:

>In article <1992Jul26.135458.9673@jho.com> john@jho.com (John Ho) writes:

>>    P.S. After the new Census in 1990, the Asian American has became a
>> 	   very hot market to marketers.  AT&T, MCI and United
>> 	   Airlines, etc. are spending big bucks to advertize in the
>> 	   Asian market.

>  Why is it suddenly a hot market?  Didn't anyone know how many AA's
>there were before the 1990 census?

Exactly.  Before the 1990 Census, most marketers are not aware of the 
actual population of the Asian market and we are basically ignored.
The new statistics figures changes all that, however.  The marketers
are now aware of the concentration of Asian American and most 
importantly, their buying power - it is a lot higher than average 
American.  For example, look at those Karoke machine and laser discs (it is
$700 for the machine and $60-$120 per disc, how many American
family will be able to afford such an expensive home entertainment?
This machine is a pretty popular equipment in the HK family in Texas.)
-- 
John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)           - No news is bad news.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: macross@wam.umd.edu (Steve Ji-Chang Hong)
Subject: Help! Information Needed
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:22:41 GMT


Hi!
	A friend of mine needs some information about University Wisconsin/
Madison and Texas A&M University.  Could anyone who knows anyting about these
two unversities post his/her opnion.
	Thanks

-Steve
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: akwy@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Alan Kin Wah YIM)
Subject: Re: ltong{01,02}.gif - Name confirmation request
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 11:21:49 GMT

Hi netters,

There's one more picture: wgchan01.gif to be confirmed. The current name
supplied by the contributor is Chan Wing-Gee. Would anyone confirm the
spelling from magazines? Anyone knows her English name as well?

It was posted earlier in this month. I've already uploaded it to
nok.lcs.mit.edu in directory /pub/incoming. It'll be available in
/pub/hongkong/gif/popstars/guess in a day or two.

Thanks for your help in advance.
Alan of HKPGCS.
-- 
|||||||||||||| H O   O A I   ---   Another word for SPECIAL |||||||||||||||
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From: stephen@lsil.com (Stephen Lee 8941)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Racial Problems?
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:39:02 GMT
Reply-To: stephen@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Microprocessor Group

In article 5010@transfer.stratus.com, cheung@boromir.hw.stratus.com () writes:
>
[some arguments from another netter deleted]
>
>Little thought from a little mind.
>
>Big wonder from a frog in the well.  
>Big fart from the blind man who thinks he has seen the whole elephant.
>
>It is time for you to take a look at yourself in the mirror.  This
>is the only way for you to avoid furthur embarrassment.
>
>All in all, full of bullshit from a braindead (racist+sexist)^100.

Is this the way to counter some other people's argument ?
If you disgree with the orginal poster, show us some facts that
support your own thinking. 
Make me wonder how your poor communication skills can get you a job.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: dtam@fraser.sfu.ca (Dominic Pok Man Tam)
Subject: Re: Email to CityPoly?????
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 05:11:49 GMT

Please try

	StudentNo@CPHKVX.BITNET

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong