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From: skb@hrojr.ATT.COM (Shawn Boyce)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: HST DUAL wanted.. or USRs phone #
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:41:15 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: AT&T BL
Originator: news@cbnewsf.cb.att.com

>yea its time to upgrade to a faster modem.  I need USR phone #.  Does any
>1 know if they still do that business deal?  Does the HST do fax?  how
>reliable is the fax on the HST ?

USRobotics 
1-800-DIAL-USR

As for FAX capability, the Courier/Sportster only supports Class 1 fax
commands.  Currently, no Amiga Fax software supports this.
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From: blitter@spuddy.uucp (Tony Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Usenet reader (offline)???
Date: 31 Dec 92 20:02:41 GMT
Organization: Spuddy's Public Usenet Domain


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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: VLT and capture buffer filter?
Date: 31 Dec 92 02:46:12 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: glia.biostr.washington.edu

In <C03orI.HIE@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU> wglp09@scsa1.slac.stanford.edu (W.G.J. Langeveld) writes:

>In article <crystal.725611416@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
>> Has anyone found a way to filter out all the weird control characters that
>> VLT prints to the capture buffer files?  

>Why don't you use the review buffer? Its window comes up on the VLT screen, and
>it has scroll bars. Also, it has its own menus, and allows you highlight things 
>and save them to the clipboard and/or a file. You can set its size  to be as
>big as you have memory for...

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Try using the review buffer with TALK... things get overwritten in the buffer
whenever the cursor jumps back to the top of the screen.  The conversation
ends up out of order if you try to save the review buffer before someone hiti
the top of the screen again.

The same thing occurs when editing files on the host computer (glia). If I 
scroll UP while in vi on glia, the review buffer overwritten.  (Same with
insert mode.  Review buffer looks REALLY screwy...)

But the capture file has everything in the proper order, just filled with
control characters.  I would like to eliminate the capture of these characters.
If the review buffer can filter them out, why not the capture file section?

Seems like such a filter should be available for BOTH parts.

Crystal
  ;>
From: rbharding@yuggoth.org (Ron Harding)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Modem Terminology is Confusing
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:02:07 EST
Organization: The Leningrad Carrot Conspiracy

In article <OAHVENLA.92Dec23181716@lk-hp-4.hut.fi> oahvenla@snakemail.hut.fi (Osma Ahvenlampi)

Osma corrected me on a few issues about V.32, HST, etc.  I bow to a superior
authority.

> Most current high speed modems offer V.21, Bell 103, V.22, Bell 212A, V.22bis,
> V.32 and V.32bis besides fax compatibility, MNP2-4, MNP5, V.42 and V.42bis.
> Some (such as USR HST and ZyXEL) offer also a proprietary 16800 bps protocol.
> Hayes Optima 144 may be a fine modem, and probably is, but it definitely is
> not alone. And it definitely does NOT support "everything there is except HST".

Indeed not.  It does support all those I listed (except HST).  I suspect the
USR HST modems come closer to supporting "everything there is."

> >TIES    : "Time-independant Escape Sequence"  Used by Hayes-pseudo-compatible
> >          modems.  The sequence consists of the five characters: "+++AT", 
> >          that is, the Hayes sequence, but without the guard times, followed
> >          by the "AT" characters that must preceed any Hayes-compatible
> >          command sequence.
> 
> Bull. I have not seen a single modem that would react to "+++AT", every one
> of them have used the "delay, three characters, delay" escape sequence. In all
> of the cases the delay lenght and escape code have also been user definable, 
> usually with S registers 12 and 2, respectively.
> This is of course with modems using AT command set, extended or otherwise.

Such modems do exist.  They are made by people who don't want to pay the
licence fees for the Hayes sequence.  There are at this very moment legal
proceedings between Hayes and some other modem makers (the name of the
central player eludes me) who use the TIES sequence I described.  The other
makers have Hayes in court over what they claim is misleading advertising by
Hayes about the pitfalls of the TIES sequence.  My personal belief is that
the Hayes ads are not misleading, just over-reacting.

I think the majority of modem-makers have licence agreements with Hayes
and use the Hayes sequence.

> Even if it might seem so at points, this post is not intended as a flame. I
> felt it was necessary to correct especially the escape sequence part, and gave
> some comments about other parts, while on the subject.

No flame felt.  But there _are_ TIES modems out there.

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From: dac@prolix.apana.org.au (Andrew Clayton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Binaries/Sources
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 05:12:26 GMT
Organization: More like Dis~, really.
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00

In article <1hd7m1INNrmv@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, Marc Tooley writes:

> Hmm.. I just visited the binaries/sources sections for Amiga, and neither
> have anything in them. Perhaps the mail reader here is faulty? Or is no one
> posting anything?

Nobody is posting anything, and nobody is collecting anything.
Hasn't been for nearly a year now, which is only a little bit of
a shame.

Anyone with FTP access just goes to a amiga.physik mirror site,
and gets files from there.  FTPMail also works, especially to
mrcserv@janus.mtroyal.ab.ca.  Send a mail message to that site
with 'HELP' as the subject, and you should get back a detailed
enough picture of how to use the service.

Direct FTP is much hoopier though. :-)

Dac
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: mike@sarah.albany.edu (Michael Ciarfello)
Subject: Re: slip for amiga??
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 23:31:41 GMT

In article <1hpk3sINN4fp@phoenix.apana.org.au> hunter@phoenix.apana.org.au (James Gardiner) writes:
>
>I was just wondering if there is anyone out there running slip
>on there amiga over modems to a unix system?
>And if so, what software are you using?
>

[stuff deleted]

>
>Is anyone using AmigaNOS, Has anyone got it going like I mention
>above?  If so, could I have a example of your set up.  AmigaNOS
>comes with no instructions.  Is it possible to ftp and telnet at the
>same time with amigaNOS?  I had a quick play with it. It did not
>look very good.
>

I got AmigaNOS to work over a modem.

1.  It is kind of slow.
2.  The VT100 support is not very good.
3.  You can telnet/FTP at the same time.

FTPing a file with my SupraFax V.32bis modem is a lot slower then sending the 
file with, say Z-Modem.

Get AmigaNOS29j and Akit from Wuarchive.  I believe it is in the "incoming" 
directory.  AmigaNos29i didn't work for me.  If the program won't come up,
put the workbench screen in >200 line mode (interlace, if applies)

Akit has everyting set up for you.  Just execute the script file from the
"AmigaNOS/s" directory and away you are.

Alt-T (I believe) will bring you back to the Session Manager so you can
open another session.  If it's not ALT-T, it's an Alt key close to the T key.


If anyone knows where I can get the source for AmigaNOS29j, let me know where
and what directory.

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From: boutwell@beta.tricity.wsu.edu (Scott Boutwell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Binaries/Sources
Date: 26 Dec 92 04:13:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Dec26.041320.22827
Organization: Washington State University Tri-Cities, Richland

In article <1hd7m1INNrmv@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bj371@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Marc Tooley) writes:
>
> Hmm.. I just visited the binaries/sources sections for Amiga, and neither
>have anything in them. Perhaps the mail reader here is faulty? Or is no one
>posting anything?
>
>Marc


Acutally I think it is that the person in charge of posting them has layed
back for some time...  I have not seen anything in sources/binaries for a
long time.  Ever since AB20 went down and someone said they would take
over the duties.  Someone has been sleep me thinks....
From: wglp09@scsa1.slac.stanford.edu (W.G.J. Langeveld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: VLT and capture buffer filter?
Date: 31 Dec 92 01:42:54 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
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In article <crystal.725611416@glia> crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:
> Has anyone found a way to filter out all the weird control characters that
> VLT prints to the capture buffer files?  

Why don't you use the review buffer? Its window comes up on the VLT screen, and
it has scroll bars. Also, it has its own menus, and allows you highlight things 
and save them to the clipboard and/or a file. You can set its size  to be as
big as you have memory for...

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:8336 comp.dcom.modems:18440 bit.listserv.i-amiga:9937
From: johnv@tower.actrix.gen.nz (John Veldthuis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.dcom.modems,bit.listserv.i-amiga
Subject: Re: Supra problems wanted
    <1992Dec19.123231.1959@sbcs.sunysb.edu>
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.dcom.modems,bit.listserv.i-amiga
Distribution: World
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:54:06 +1200
Organization: Amiga Virus Extermination Services, TAUG

Quoted from <1992Dec19.123231.1959@sbcs.sunysb.edu> by dtiberio@engws10.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio):
> 
> 	&T8 - this is the internal line quality test option. It always 
> 	returns "Your modem is working fine, but you have lots of line noise"
> 	even though you never see any line noise, and none of your other 
> 	modmes have any of the problems listed above.

You don't have to hear line noise for it to effect a modem. Try using a
Telebit T2500 at PEP speeds at what appears to be a perfect line. Not a
whisper of noise. Then after the call has finished read an S register and
see what channels where mapped out. Gee there are quite a few that are not
used. Can't be noise because I can't hear it.

Some modems handle noise better than others. This has to do with signal
strength.
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Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:8443 comp.sys.amiga.programmer:17988
From: too@laphroaig.cs.hut.fi (Tomi Ollila)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
Subject: SANA-II specs are available - how about API specs.
Date: 31 Dec 92 13:37:33 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: /u/users10/too/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: laphroaig.cs.hut.fi


Commore has published SANA-II standard for network board vendors and is
itself doing network support for AmigaOS 3.1. However, no application
program interface standards are published. As networking is one of the most
important part of the future of amiga, good finished or at least well
planned applications should be available when networking software is
released.

I have heard that Gfxbase had some kind of shared library (socket.library)
w/ their X server but they are not using it anymore - they are using
commodore's API instead (?!?).

So, what is the current state of development of the Application Programmer
Interface?. Any information is appreciated.

Tomi

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: willw@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (William Waring)
Subject: Re: DNET, UUCP - HELP!   [please read]
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 04:59:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.111016.3492@mercury.unt.edu> jbw@ponder.csci.unt.edu (WEST JASON BRUCE) writes:
>    I have been using VLT and doing everything off my Unix system - but my
>Unix system really sucks.  I would like to have clients and software on
>my Amiga side.  I have a 14.4k modem - but only a 2400 baud dial-up and an
>A3000 with 2.4.
>
>* What is DNet?  What do I need to use it?  How much does it cost?  What are
>  it's advantages?
>
>* What is UUCP?  What do I need to use it? How much does it cost?  What are
>  it's advantages?

Put simply, DNet is a primitive semi-network that can be setup over a
modem link amiga -> unix or amiga->amiga. It allows you to use one
connection (The modem) to establish multiple links to the other machine.
Put even more simply, you can have upto 64 shells running at the same
time, all doing their jobs, instead of having one going over a normal
terminal. Each terminal is in it's own window on workbench. For example, I
can have one terminal open downloading FTP stuff, one on IRC, and the
other reading news and the other posting email... I've done that on many
occasions. The other good thing is that Dnet uses a client/server
relationship. You can add clients and servers to dnet to add
functionality. IE, If you add the sintlink client to unix, you can use
AmigaIRC which is a BRILLIANT fully intuitionalised IRC chat program which
can be used with Dnet. Using another client/server, youj can transfer
files invisably in the backround while you still use dnet.,. That is handy..

	The only minus for using Dnet is that you have a 2400 connection,
and it would be quite slow over that sort of link due to the multiple
connection overhead.. I'd look for at least 9600 (What I use - is very
acceptable) before using it.

	As for UUCP, it stands for Unix to Unix Communications protocol
and is basically a way of shuffling filex arround the net - usually net
mail or other things.


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: colindse@nmsu.EDU (LINDSEY)
Subject: AmigaNOS, How to use???
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
Distribution: comp.sys.amiga.datacom
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:13:10 GMT

Is there any documentation on using, setting up, etc a SLIP connection?  I
resently downloaded AmigaNOS 2.9i and it runs (i guess) but I'm not sure
what to do next.  I can call my slip site (if thats what it is called) but
cant ftp, rlogin, anything to any remote sites.  Please can someone tell me how
to use AmigaNOS?

Thanks,
Coy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: k9qx@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (Troy Morehouse CFES)
Subject: Using DNet with AUX:
Keywords: DNet AUX FTerm
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 01:46:08 GMT

Hello!

  Does anyone know if it is possible to open DNet's FTerm on an AUX:
rather than in a window?  I would like to set up a dumb terminal
(connected via a multi serial card) that could be used to open a Unix
shell via DNet to the universities Sun Server.

Thanks in advance.

Troy 

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From: bmaple@burner.com (Bob Maple)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: What Is this BBS all ABOUT..Pirates maybe
Date: 2 Jan 93 03:44:15 MST
Organization: The Back Burner BBS (via C-Net Amiga)

On Sat  2-Jan-1993  3:44a, Mark Foren wrote:

MF> PS..what can you do about Pirate Boards...??

Don't call them.

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From: pegasus@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Patricia Snyder-Rayl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Advertise your BBS in CONNECT
Date: 29 Dec 92 00:17:16 GMT
Organization: GREX Public Access Unix +1 313 761 3000



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: ja51359@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (axelrod)
Subject: Modem Terminology is Confusing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:37:14 GMT

Could someone please explain in a followup message what the various protocols
mean?  i.e. what is v.42/v.32, what do the various MNP levels mean?  Is a
14.4K bps modem really 14.4K on purely random data?  What are the capabilities
of each protocol when sending data both directions at the same time?

Thanks,
Jeff
From: jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: slip for amiga??
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:03:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: fripp.1992Dec30.150329.23087
Reply-To: jh@cadre.com
Organization: Cadre Technologies, Inc.

In article 1hpk3sINN4fp@phoenix.apana.org.au, hunter@phoenix.apana.org.au (James Gardiner) writes:
>
>I was just wondering if there is anyone out there running slip
>on there amiga over modems to a unix system?
>And if so, what software are you using?
>
>I have amiga TCP/IP to talk to my UNIX system through the Ethernet
>board.  I was just wondering if anyone has made a slip driver for this
>software.  Would make it very simple and all the utils.
>telnet, rlogin, etc are already there.
>
>Has anyone seen a new version of amiga TCP/IP over version 1.0?

I'm using SLIP with C='s AS225 TCP/IP product, including the Beta compressed 
SLIP software.  It works pretty well for me dialing into a Sun running Morning
Star Technology's PPP product (which supports C-SLIP).  If you've already got
the AS225 stuff, you should probably be able to get an upgrade to the version
that has CSLIP.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: Supra problems wanted
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 01:39:14 GMT

Ray_Hines@dream.uucp (Ray Hines) writes:

>In a message dated Wed 30 Dec 92 13:24, Bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (gregory R B
>wrote:

> BRB> People:  It's simple.  DO NOT MAKE THE MISTAKE OF BUYING SUPRA
> BRB> PRODUCTS.  Problems exist across their entire line of products,
> BRB> they're well known for it.  From modems to hardcards, hardware to
> BRB> software, they've always been buggy.

Tell that to my 500XP hard drive and Supramodem 2400.  They won't believe 
you. ;-)

>     I'm quite baffled about this.  I've always used Supra products for
>years and never had any problems with them except for the high speed
>modem's speaker burning out (which has since been replaced with a new modem
>w/better positioned speaker).  I've used the SupraRAM 8 meg card, still use
>the Supra WordSync Hardcard (w/ Quantum), had a Supra 2400 external modem,
>still use both an external v.32bis modem and an internal 2400 SupraZI
>modem.  ALL without ONE glitch or bug.  Perhaps I'm extremely fortunate. 
>Then again, I've got friends who use Supra products happily after ever and
>I still recommend Supra to my friends. 

That makes two of us who are "extremely fortunate".

DISCLAIMER:  I'm just a satisfied customer.
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