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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Lupo the Butcher)
Subject: Real-life Dunwich horror
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:33:44 GMT
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Since some are discussing the real-life inspirations for innsmouth, I'll 
speak of an infinitely more interesting case. 
On the border of Mass/New-Hampshire there is a small tourist place called
"American Stonehenge". It is apparently the real-life inspiration for the
stone circles in the Dunwich Horror. There are several theories as to
who built the place. One is that a crazy farmer & his crazier son built it
out of sheer boredom (it is rather large for this IMHO). This has been 
discredited somewhat by carbon-dating of charcoal found in some of the
structures which dates much further back in time. The present owners
of the site (Pagan types) and the first man to take interest in the place
were strong on the theory that celtic monks came to america sometime rather
before Columbus & built the structure. Lastly the resident scientist is of
the opinion that it is the construction of an ancient native american 
culture, used for predicting the changes in season and as a ceremonial
center. Astronomical alignments apparently make it a decent predictor
of equinoxes & such events & the alignments are consistant with the dated
charcoal found in the structure.

In the museum gift shop, there were several books about the place, and one
small pamphlet about its inspiration for HPL's story. His trip to the
stone circles is apparently mentioned in some of his letters & memoirs, though
I do not know if these references were included in the Arkham house 
"Selected Letters". Though I read through the pamphlet (there may have been 
several, now that I think of it), I did not buy it... 8-(

I still have some tourist propaganda somewhere, if anyone is interested. I
recommend it; it is a fascinating place...

yrs under the elder sign...
-Scott
From: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Films....
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:44:17 GMT
Organization: Miskatonic U. Computer Operations & User Services

BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu (Brian Panulla, MooCow) writes:

>Other films include _The Call of Cthulhu_ (b&w) and the two _Reanimator_
>flicks.

A black-and-white film version of "Call of Cthulhu"?  I'm not familiar with
this one.  More details, please!

-- 
Yog-Sothoth Neblod Zin,

Chris Jarocha-Ernst			Rutgers University Computing Services
Internet: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu       BITnet: JAROCHAERNST@ZODIAC
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From: C521832@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu
Subject: Re: O
Organization: University of Missouri at Columbia, U.S.A.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:04:17 GMT
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As editor of TUO, I'll avoid propaganda..of the two addresses for us posted,
the second (403A N. 8th St.) is correct (we've moved since the older one).
 
TUO7, available in a week or so, is still B&W but now has a glossy cover.
Look for full-color glossy covers after GenCon '93.
 
The focus is CoC gaming, naturally. I haven't really heard from non-gamers
who like the magazine, but then I haven't really heard from non-gamers who
don't like it either, so I'm at a loss.
 
Suggestions, comments, and critiques are *always* welcome and appreciated.
 
I think TUO7 is a big step forward in quality of design and artwork...
 
thanks,
Rev
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From: john@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Mackin)
Subject: Binah and 333
Followup-To: alt.magick
Reply-To: John Mackin <john@civil.su.oz.au>
Organization: Department of Physiology, University of Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 12:32:57 GMT

[Oops.  I managed to misspell this group's name in the original attempted
crosspost.  Apologies to readers of both alt.horror.cthulhu and alt.magick,
who may see this twice.]

Someone (the articles have all expired) suggested some weeks ago that
there may have been a Qabalistic connection of some kind between
Binah and the number 333.  Of course, this is the number of Choronzon/
Shugal, who would traditionally be held to be in Daath rather than
Binah.  I asked for discussion in a followup to their article and
haven't seen any.

I have spent some time since then looking at gematria for 333, and
have not been able to come up with anything that is even vaguely
plausible to connect it with Binah.  Of course, there is the blindingly
obvious, and IMHO shallow and unsatisfactory, claim that since Binah is
the third Sephira, then we write "3" three times, but that is _so_
shallow that I can't take it seriously.  So, before I forget this
entirely, is there any further comment?  In particular, if the
original poster sees this (which is the reason for the crosspost
to alt.horror.cthulu; readers of that group, please note that
followups to this article are directed by default to alt.magick,
where frivolous posts are not all that generally appreciated -- thanks!)
I'd really like to know if you had something in mind.

If you post in response, perhaps you could mail me a copy as well
to make sure I see it.  Thanks.

-- 
John Mackin <john@civil.su.oz.au>
Knox's box is a 286.                 Fox in Socks does hacks and tricks
Knox's box is hard to fix.           To fix poor Knox's box for kicks.
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From: dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry)
Subject: Re: Unspeakable Oath Opinions
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 07:25:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

>      This is in response to a request for opions on TUO. My opinions, which 
>correspond precisely to the true nature and structure of metaphysical reality 
>(if you beleive this, I'd like to sell you some sea front property in North 
>Dakota) are as follows:

Sorry. I've already bought most of the seafront property here. You're all
welcome to visit. The weather's a bit rough, so there's no surfing, but
otherwise it's real fun.
-- 
David R. Henry - Rogue Fan Club - "I have a pullchain in my head." -- RIII
My mind is a jackal.--Richard Darwin // What was the question? --Kate Bush
"All you of Earth are IDIOTS!"-P9fOS // Thanks... for the memories.--Rogue
dhenry@plains.nodak.edu * ud137927@ndsuvm1.bitnet * ud137927@vm1.nodak.edu
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From: rpg@cs.tulane.edu (Robert Goldman)
Subject: Re: Unspeakable Oath Opinions
Reply-To: rpg@cs.tulane.edu (Robert Goldman)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Tulane University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:21:08 GMT
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How does one get hold of TUO?
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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Lupo the Butcher)
Subject: Re: Real-life Dunwich horror
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:51:28 GMT
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In article <1992Dec17.135114.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> holt_c@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.053344.556@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Lupo the Butcher) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Since some are discussing the real-life inspirations for innsmouth, I'll 
>> speak of an infinitely more interesting case. 
>> On the border of Mass/New-Hampshire there is a small tourist place called
>> "American Stonehenge". It is apparently the real-life inspiration for the
>> stone circles in the Dunwich Horror. There are several theories as to
>> who built the place. One is that a crazy farmer & his crazier son built it
>> out of sheer boredom (it is rather large for this IMHO). This has been 
>> discredited somewhat by carbon-dating of charcoal found in some of the
>> structures which dates much further back in time. The present owners
>> of the site (Pagan types) and the first man to take interest in the place
>> were strong on the theory that celtic monks came to america sometime rather
>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>There are quite a few pieces of evidence in southeast Colorado that indicate
>the Celtics may have been here very early, including several equinox indicators
>and many ogam writings, one of which is the largest example of ogam writing
>ever found.

Yah, and there was a white-skinned indian tribe in viginia or therabouts
that spoke a bastardized version of welsh on first contact with europeans. 
Go figure.

-Lupo
From: lizi@soda.berkeley.edu (Cosma Shalizi)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Real-life Dunwich horror
Date: 18 Dec 1992 00:20:16 GMT
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu (Berkeley Tentacle)
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In article <1992Dec17.053344.556@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Lupo the Butcher) writes:
>
>
>Since some are discussing the real-life inspirations for innsmouth, I'll 
>speak of an infinitely more interesting case. 
>On the border of Mass/New-Hampshire there is a small tourist place called
>"American Stonehenge". It is apparently the real-life inspiration for the
>stone circles in the Dunwich Horror. There are several theories as to
>who built the place...
	One is that it's actually a cider press or something of that ilk;
supposedly there are others in New England where this is definitely known to
be true. This is from my rather hazy memory of a book on the background of the
mythos in the library here... I may have chance to check the reference before
heading Back East, in which case I'll let you all know...
	Cosma Shalizi
	In Real Life: lizi@ocf.berkeley.edu
-- 
"I'd love to hold you/ I'd love to kiss you/ I ain't got time for that now."
-Talking Heads, "Life During Wartime"
"Death needs Time for what it kills to grow in."
-William S. Burroughs, "Ah Pook is Here"
From: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Lovecraftian research
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:41:10 GMT
Organization: Miskatonic U. Computer Operations & User Services

gunthar@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:

>H'lo.  I'm currently involved with research into the background of H.P.
>Lovecraft's works.

Hi, Guy!

> Some of you might recognize me as the guy who ran the short-lived Mythos
> Delvers Chronicles.  

Short-lived, but well-loved!

>What I need is sources of information on San Francisco during WWI (1914-1918).
>Book titles, names of popular newspapers of the era and area, etc. would be
>extremely helpful.

The San Francisco EXAMINER was, I believe, the local Hearst paper.

You've probably already thought of this, but anything about the San Francisco
earthquake of 1910 would give you *some* background info.  A bibliography for
such a work might even point to some more specific work for the time frame you
need.

>I am getting hopefully close to writing an article that will appear in the
>Unspeakable Oath.

Opinions on OATH, please.  (I know the editor is out there; your opinion
doesn't count! :-) ) Am I missing something along the lines of CRYPT OF CTHULHU
or DAGON, or is it pretty elementary Mythos stuff?
-- 
Yog-Sothoth Neblod Zin,

Chris Jarocha-Ernst			Rutgers University Computing Services
Internet: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu       BITnet: JAROCHAERNST@ZODIAC
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From: bcannard@hppcb36.mentorg.com (The Human Mi-Go)
Subject: Re: Unspeakable Oath Opinions
Originator: bcannard@hppcb36
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 14:32:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
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Organization: Yuggoth Ores and Quality Used Brains
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In article <RPG.92Dec15212108@clones.cs.tulane.edu>, rpg@cs.tulane.edu (Robert Goldman) writes:
|> How does one get hold of TUO?

Try a good games shop (best to ask, it's small and easy to miss and will
be out of stock most of the time) or contact the publishers:

		Pagan Publishing
		1409 Wilson Ave., Columbia, MO 65201, USA.

Ia Shub-Niggurath,

	Bob.

-- 
bob_cannard@mentorg.com			"More dynamite!" - Theron Marks
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From: s13989bc@UMASSD.EDU
Subject: Re: Real-life Dunwich Horror
Reply-To: s13989bc@UMASSD.EDU
Organization: UMASS DARTMOUTH, NO. DARTMOUTH, MA.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:11:26 GMT

in <1992Dec17.053344.556@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> the new England
Stonehenge is mentioned. Being a New Englander myself I would
like to put my two cents in. The sight bein discussed has been turned
into the most pathetically obvious tourist trap I've ever seen.
The property owner wrote up his "informational" paphlets with o
no help from any outside historians or anthroplologists. My
information on how his leaflets came to be is gathered from
my local newspaper _The Standard Times_ , which had some articles 
on the location during the Halloween season. ( As we all know the
Celtic Druids were nothing more than Satanists in disguise" said
the gentleman, sarcasm dripping from his lips.)
 Just wanted to give some regional information on the topic.
If my information or views do not concur with your own please feel free 
e-mail me your comments so I can correct my information if I am
wrong.
                Thank You.
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From: locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Lupo the Butcher)
Subject: Re: Real-life Dunwich horror
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 04:02:22 GMT
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In article <1gr5g0INNjce@agate.berkeley.edu> lizi@soda.berkeley.edu (Cosma Shalizi) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.053344.556@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Lupo the Butcher) writes:
>>
>>
>>Since some are discussing the real-life inspirations for innsmouth, I'll 
>>speak of an infinitely more interesting case. 
>>On the border of Mass/New-Hampshire there is a small tourist place called
>>"American Stonehenge". It is apparently the real-life inspiration for the
>>stone circles in the Dunwich Horror. There are several theories as to
>>who built the place...
>	One is that it's actually a cider press or something of that ilk;
>supposedly there are others in New England where this is definitely known to
>be true. 

What? Stone circle cider presses are known in New England or other places that
inspired Lovecraft.
As far as the place being a cider press, that is about the silliest theory I
have ever heard associated with the place (I suspect the discordians have
infiltrated the Berkeley tentacle 8-). It covers something like a square
mile & while there was a farm in the area, I do not think there were any
orchards (I could easily be wrong here). There is nothing "cider-press-like"
about the place. There are several dolmen-like setups placed in a geometrical
arrangement. The center of the place was a rather extensive arrangement of 
stone "shelters" (I suppose they could be root-cellars, but there are an awful
lot of them) with a large drainage system. There is an interesting "altar-like"
setup in an amphiatre. There is a subterranean passage under the altar-stone
with a trumpet-like arrangement where the preists allegedly could shout 
prophecies. This arrangement (which I tested) gives the convincing illusion of
subterranean "gods" speaking to the masses in the ampheatre

Read "Mysterious New England" for more info on these stone circles...

>mythos in the library here... I may have chance to check the reference before
>heading Back East, in which case I'll let you all know...

You are heading east? Not to New England?

-Scott
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From: bcannard@hppcb36.mentorg.com (The Human Mi-Go)
Subject: Re: Films....
Originator: bcannard@hppcb36
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 04:41:43 GMT
Reply-To: bob_cannard@mentorg.com
Organization: Best Buy Byakhees Inc.
Keywords: 
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In article <1992Dec10.154751.20311@nmsu.edu>, jgoodric@dante.nmsu.edu (GOODRICH) writes:
|> 
|> 
|> 	Y'know what really gets up my nose, these 
|> idiot directors think that a short story translates
|> well into a movie...

... miscellaneous well-aimed ranting deleted ...

|> Anything with the same name as a Edgar Allan Poe
|> 	story.
|> 
|> 	D'you get my drift?

Yes. And more...

	Anything by Edgar Allan Poe that was written by H. P. Lovecraft.

Dammit Jim, I can't remember the name of the film! The one I'm
thinking of starred Vincent Price, and was pretty good in its way
(i.e. Vincent Price's way, not H. P. Lovecraft's). Right now I can't
remember a blasted thing about it other than it was a HPL story but
the credits claimed it was by EAP. Anyone out there know what in R'lyeh
I'm talking about? Please post or email details.

	dSAN/dt << 0	(2nd Law of Cthulhudynamics)
-- 
bob_cannard@mentorg.com			"More dynamite!" - Theron Marks
From: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: The Descent of Man and HPL
Date: 15 Dec 92 17:05:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Miskatonic U. Computer Operations & User Services

pound@ruf.rice.edu (Christopher Brian Pound) writes:

>I've been looking for my damn notes on this for two days now, but I think the
>cruel empire (5000 years in the future) is mentioned twice in the collected
>works

"The cruel empire of Tsan Chan" is mentioned first in "Beyond the Walls of
Sleep", and much later in "The Shadow out of Time".

-- 
Yog-Sothoth Neblod Zin,

Chris Jarocha-Ernst			Rutgers University Computing Services
Internet: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu       BITnet: JAROCHAERNST@ZODIAC
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From: mlabossi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael C LaBossiere)
Subject: Unspeakable Oath Opinions
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:25:02 GMT

      This is in response to a request for opions on TUO. My opinions, which 
correspond precisely to the true nature and structure of metaphysical reality 
(if you beleive this, I'd like to sell you some sea front property in North 
Dakota) are as follows:
Art: Generally good, but some is not so good.
Physical: Cover is non-glossy paper and the whole thing is stapled together. 
The structure is a bit "rough" and is about as good as the old TSR Greyhawk and
Blackmoor.
Content: Very good. Everything is well written and, in contrast to many slicker
mags, very useful ( no "ecology of pus-rats" or long winded articles on the 
heraldry of England).
Organization: Well organized.
Tone: Professional, very professional.
Recommendations: Subscribe to this magazine if you play CoC or even if you are 
a HPL fan. Sell your pets as lab animals or your soul to Nyarlathotep if you 
don't have the $. Remember: the more $ TUO brings in, the better it will get.
Disclaimer: No, I'm not the editor or even an employee of Pagan Press. They are
not holding any of my family hostage, either.
From: corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley )
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Scariest CoC Pic.
Date: 16 Dec 92 05:54:31 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson

I picked up a bunch of used CoC books at a Bookman's here
in Tucson (Bookmans is a great place to ask for things
like the Necronomicon and De Vermiis Mysteriis, by the
way.) and I was looking at the pictures.

One of them, the cover to _Fatal Experiments_, freaked
me out big time after I looked at it awhile.  On the
surface, it depicts a clawed, scaly beast pulling on
rubber gloves...but there's something in the background
that scared the sh*t out of me when I made it out.

Scariest Mythos picture I have ever seen.  Closest thing
to R. Upton Pickman as you can get, as far as I'm concerned.

	Yours,
	Jason
	Of The Elder .Sig
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From: ehenness@willamette.edu (Ethan D. Hennessey)
Subject: Re: Real-life Dunwich horror
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:37:04 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.135114.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> holt_c@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.053344.556@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Lupo the Butcher) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Since some are discussing the real-life inspirations for innsmouth, I'll 
>> speak of an infinitely more interesting case. 
>> On the border of Mass/New-Hampshire there is a small tourist place called
>> "American Stonehenge". It is apparently the real-life inspiration for the
>> stone circles in the Dunwich Horror. There are several theories as to
>> who built the place. One is that a crazy farmer & his crazier son built it
>> out of sheer boredom (it is rather large for this IMHO). This has been 
>> discredited somewhat by carbon-dating of charcoal found in some of the
>> structures which dates much further back in time. The present owners
>> of the site (Pagan types) and the first man to take interest in the place
>> were strong on the theory that celtic monks came to america sometime rather
>                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>There are quite a few pieces of evidence in southeast Colorado that indicate
>the Celtics may have been here very early, including several equinox indicators
>and many ogam writings, one of which is the largest example of ogam writing
>ever found.


   Well, I don't know if they came over, but Robert Bloch (author of
Psycho, acquaintace of HPL) wwrote a mythos story called "Notebook Found
in a Deserted House" that depicts the Celts living secretly underground in
New England forests, worshipping Shub-niggurath.  It can be found in
_Tales_of_the_Cthulhu_Mythos_ published by Arkham House.
From: tpa10@css.amdahl.com (Thomas P. Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Lovecraftian research
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:29:04 GMT

In article <Dec.15.13.41.09.1992.10711@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt) writes:
|> gunthar@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
|> 
|> >H'lo.  I'm currently involved with research into the background of H.P.
|> >Lovecraft's works.
|> 
|> Hi, Guy!
|> 
|> > Some of you might recognize me as the guy who ran the short-lived Mythos
|> > Delvers Chronicles.  
|> 
|> Short-lived, but well-loved!
|> 
|> >What I need is sources of information on San Francisco during WWI (1914-1918).
|> >Book titles, names of popular newspapers of the era and area, etc. would be
|> >extremely helpful.
|> 
|> The San Francisco EXAMINER was, I believe, the local Hearst paper.
   /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ 
I am not sure of their history, but you might also look for some papers called
"The San Francisco NEWS" and the "The San Francisco CALL BULLETIN".  I DO know
that they, at some point merged into the "News Call Bulletin", which was 
itself eaten alive by the EXAMINER in the early 60s.
|> -- 
|> Yog-Sothoth Neblod Zin,
|> 
|> Chris Jarocha-Ernst			Rutgers University Computing Services
|> Internet: cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu       BITnet: JAROCHAERNST@ZODIAC

-- 

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Compatibility Software Products |     e tenebras ad luce!
tpa10@css.amdahl.com  x63115    |  - someone famous, i'm sure!
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From: holt_c@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Real-life Dunwich horror
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:51:14 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.053344.556@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Lupo the Butcher) writes:
> 
> 
> Since some are discussing the real-life inspirations for innsmouth, I'll 
> speak of an infinitely more interesting case. 
> On the border of Mass/New-Hampshire there is a small tourist place called
> "American Stonehenge". It is apparently the real-life inspiration for the
> stone circles in the Dunwich Horror. There are several theories as to
> who built the place. One is that a crazy farmer & his crazier son built it
> out of sheer boredom (it is rather large for this IMHO). This has been 
> discredited somewhat by carbon-dating of charcoal found in some of the
> structures which dates much further back in time. The present owners
> of the site (Pagan types) and the first man to take interest in the place
> were strong on the theory that celtic monks came to america sometime rather
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
There are quite a few pieces of evidence in southeast Colorado that indicate
the Celtics may have been here very early, including several equinox indicators
and many ogam writings, one of which is the largest example of ogam writing
ever found.
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