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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:56:00 GMT
From:         Peter Halls <PJH1@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK>
Subject:      ARC/INFO 6.1 ... THIN and GRIDLINE ...

ARC/INFO 6.1 ... please just chuck this if you don't use it! Thanks.

As item 144.1243 in 'known problems', there is documented a problem reported
regarding the memory requirements of the ARC GRIDLINE command whilst running
on a SUN.  Briefly, on a SUN with 24 mb memory GRIDLINE consumed 50 mb swap
space, although the documented minimal swap space requirements are only 45mb.

I have just begun to look at this area for our array of Silicon Graphics
machines.  Here, the 'minimal' swap space declared by ESRI is 40mb;  IRIX
grabs a little over half of this.  I cannot run THIN or GRIDLINE on my 24 mb
IRIS Indigo 'cos it runs out of swap space in attempting to load (Thin?).

I have been able to run GRIDLINE on our SGI Powerserver - which has 96 mb of
main memory.  In this case processing a 'trivial' grid consumed 60 mb of
memory for the THIN process (a lot less later on ...)

Has anyone any feel (yet) for the real requirements of THIN & GRIDLINE?  What
will happen were I to throw a 'real' grid at it?  Should these processes be
'written off' as workstation tasks and confined to the very big machines?
(And what, in this case, should those without such a luxury do?) Does
anyone have any feel as to whether this is an intrinsic problem or one that
will get resolved in a future release - or can someone restore hope by
being able to claim 'no such problem' on some platform other than a SUN or
SGI?

Whilst I *could* increase the swap space for the workstation, the implications
are that one needs a large swap DISK, rather than partition, in order to use
these GRID functions - I know disks are (relatively) cheap, but it don't half
add up if you have to upgrade a whole classroom of workstations just to run
a couple of functions for one package!

Peter Halls
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:04:23 CST
From:         Ann Janda <ajanda@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
Subject:      Northwestern's GIS Survey - 2nd message - a reminder

Please be sure to reply directly to Herb Somers (SOMERS@NUACVM.BITNET) in
response to the Northwestern GIS Survey and not to me (I merely forwarded
the survey to GIS-L).  Thanks....
===================================================================
Ann Janda    (Data Services)              E-mail:  a-janda@nwu.edu
Government Publications & Map Dept.       Phone:  708/491-4090
Northwestern University Library           Fax:  708/491-8306
Evanston, IL 60208-2300
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 08:08:49 -0500
From:         Jay Morgan <E7G4MOR@TOWSONVX.BITNET>
Subject:      Academic Course Guidebook

I have conducted four surveys of academic GIS courses.  To date, two have
been published:

   Morgan, J. M. III, and G. R. Bennett. 1990. Directory of Academic  De-
     partments Offering GIS Courses.  Bethesda, Maryland: ASPRS and AAG.

   Morgan, J. M. III, and B. B. Fleury. 1992. Academic GIS Directory: GIS
     in Higher Education. GeoInfoSystems 2(5): 51-73.

The ASPRS/AAG listing is out of date.  Unfortunately, GeoInfoSystems  cut
a lot of data from the directory (including department software holdings)
in order to save space.

Although I have not looked through the latest directory, I don't remember
anyone ever listing information about a postgraduate GIS course.  The on-
postgraduate course that I have heard of is one that  was  recently  con-
ducted in Finland for geophysicists.

I am editing a special issue of GeoInfoSystems on  education  issues.  As
part of my work I am updating and expanding the 1992 directory,  which  I
hope Aster Publishing Co. will issue as a separate document.  If you want
to update, add, delete, or otherwise change information in the directory,
please let me know.

Jay Morgan
Department of Geography and Environmental Planning
Towson State University
Baltimore, Maryland 21204-7097
(410) 830-2964
(410) 830-3482 (FAX)
E7G4MOR@TOWSONVX
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:44:33 -0800
From:         XWHAYDEN@FULLERTON.EDU
Subject:      Re: Idrisi

Don't know although I'd certainly be interested in such.  If you didn't have
 their Email address, I think its idrisi@clarku.edu, they may know of any kind
 of
discussion lists...
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From: Eric Lease Morgan <eric_morgn@ncsu.edu>
Subject: GIS, a section of the Gopher at the NCSU Libraries
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After reading the FAQ yesterday, I brought up a GIS section on my
Gopher. Here is a link file to the that section:

  Name=Geographic Information Systems (GIS)
  Type=1
  Port=70
  Path=1/library/disciplines/library/gis
  Host=dewey.lib.ncsu.edu
  
I have included a few things from the GIS FAQ, but y'all should note
that some of the Internet resources listed there are incorrect.

Eric Lease Morgan
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:39:36 PST
From:         Robert Hall <rhall@SPARC1.R09.EPA.GOV>

Could you please add me to your mailing list.
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:22:00 GMT+0200
From:         YOUSIF ALI HUSSIN <HUSSIN@ITC.NL>
Subject:      Re: guide to postgrad courses in GIS

To
John A. Scott
California State University/Geography

I agree with your recommendation, but GIS courses is not in the geography
departments only. You find these courses in Forestry, Natural Resources,
Vegetation, Agriculture sciences, Survey etc. in the American and
Canadain universities. Some times you find in some universities that Geography
dept has no any courses in GIS but in other dept (e.g. natural resources etc).
If you see the ASPRS GIS guide you will see that Geography depts make 1/3
or even less than the other depts that offer such courses.

Yousif Ali Hussin
ITC, Netherlands
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From: sprent@sol.surv.utas.edu.au (Tony Sprent)
Subject: WANTED - Cartography program
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:06:58 GMT

Can anyone tell me if there is a public domain program available for producing 
world and country maps on various user defined projections. Any assistance here
would be greatly appreciated.

Many thanks

Tony Sprent.

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Subject: Distance/Bearing Calculations; MicroCAM updates?
Supersedes: <93007.201708ICKGV@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 7 Jan 1993 20:23:15 MST
From: Karl Voss <ICKGV@ASUACAD.BITNET>

Hello Netland!

This may sound like a simple question, but I am just getting started
in the world of displaying data on maps.  I am trying to display a
selected portion of a database of transmitters and receivers on a
large scale "map" that I can overlay on a 7.5 min USGS map.  I have
questions that I hope are simple? ones for someone who does this in
the "real world", ie. not the "world" of television that I am familiar
with. (I work for a PBS TV station)

1. Does anyone have the formula to calculate Distance\Bearing between
   2 points given 2 Latitudes and Longitudes?  I *assume* that it is
   a simple matter of trig to calculate the dist/bearings, but have no
   idea on how to calculate the distance between the 2 lats and the
   2 longs. This is used to extract a subset of data for later "map"
   generation.

2. Does anyone have any suggestions on software packages that will allow
   me to display my data.  In the "perfect" world, the software would meet
   these requirements:
       a. Public Domain/Shareware (this is a _volunteer_ job, ie NO BUDGET)
       b. run on a PC based computer (286, 386 w/ VGA)
       c. be able to plot points based on a database of Lat/Longs, and
          draw a line between the points.
       d. identify the line with some symbol such that I can cross reference
          the transmitter/receiver line with a printed report, but the
          program doesn't have to generate the report (dBase _can_ do that)
       e. generate output to a laser printer/plotter so that I can overlay
          the "map" on a USGS 7.5 min or 1:100,000 scale map.

3. Finally, I have tried a program called "MicroCAM", a PC implementation
   of a CIA CAM program.  This will do _almost_ everything I need to do,
   but is more set up for small scale maps.  The version I have (3.0) is
   2 years old, and I am having problems with it generating large scale
   maps. Does anyone know if an updated version of the program is on
   "the net"?Or maybe a better program to use?

Thanks in advance for any help you may have....

Karl Voss                     Internet: ickgv@asuvm.inre.asu.edu
KAET-TV                       Bitnet:   ickgv@asuacad.bitnet
Arizona State University      Phone:    (602) 965-3506
Tempe,  AZ   85287-1405       Fax:      (602) 965-1000

Chairman, Arizona Frequency Coordination Committee (Broadcast Auxilliary)
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:47:16 EST
From:         Alan McPherron <mcph@ARCHEO.ANTHRO.PITT.EDU>
Subject:      ORSTOM

Does anyone know an email address for the ORSTOM organization in Paris--either
the headquarters or someone connected with it?
                       A l a n    M c p h e r r o n

                G I S  Lab              | Tel: 412/648-7513
                Anthropology Dept       | Telefax /648-5911
                Univ of Pittsburgh      | mcph@archeo.anthro.pitt.edu
                PITTSBURGH PA 15260 USA |   or  MCPH@PITTUNIX.BITNET
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:52:55 EST
From:         Sebastian Francis Sherman Heath/81920 <sfsh@IKAROS.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject:      MapInfo on a powerbook

Will Mapinfo run comfortably on a Powerbook 180 with 8 meg ram and
an 80 meg HD?
I expect to be collecting data on some 2000 polygons with about 25-30
numeric fields associated with each polygon.

Thank you,
Sebastian Heath.
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:20:05 PST
From:         spalladi@PIXIE.NCGIA.UCSB.EDU
Subject:      NCGIA GIS Educational Video Report

Before Christmas someone expressed interest in a list of GIS Videos.
Here is the information on a recent NCGIA Technical Report that covers
this subject:

---------
GIS videos:  An annotated bibliography
compiled by Amy Ruggles, NCGIA, Santa Barbara

This report describes over 120 educational videos on GIS and related
subjets.  Including videos from government agencies, software and
hardware vendors and independent video companies, each entry in
the bibliography presents summary information about a particular
video, including a non-critical description of its contents and details
on its price and availablity.  The entries are organized by subject
matter and indexed according to NCGIA Core Curriculum topics to
help instructors and others determine which videos best meet their
own curricular needs.

This report has been developed in cooperation with the ASPRS and
is available as NCGIA Technical Report 92-9.  It costs $22 US.
Contact:
NCGIA Publications Office                       Phone: (805)893-8224
Department of Geography                           FAX: (805)893-8617
University of California             E-mail: ncgiapub@ncgia.ucsb.edu
Santa Barbara, CA 93106-4060
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I hope this information is helpful.  STEVE

Mr. Steve Palladino
Education Projects Manager
National Center for Geographic Information and Analysis
University of California, Santa Barbara
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 15:28:04 PST
From:         "T. Y. Chu" <tychu@CERF.NET>
Subject:      Information on IDRISI

I have noticed the name IDRISI mentioned several times recently. I gather it is
 a GIS software. Could somebody tell me where I can get any information on this
 program? Thanks.

T Y Chu
tychu@cerf.net
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:47:30 EST
From:         David Wong <DWONG@UCONNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: NO SUBJECT

On Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:26:07 -0500 <PLH01@ALBNYDH2> said:
>I am looking for mapping software which runs on a PC either in Windows or
>straight DOS that can be used to do geocoding. I have been looking at
>literature about Tactitian, MapInfo, Atlas GIS and some others but these all
>do alot more than I need. Is there anything available which does the geocoding
>without all the analysis. Also I've noticed quite a price difference in the

If the GIS developers bothered to invest time and capital to create the
geocoding procedure, it is rational to add a few more functions to increase
the marketability of the package. I don't think you can get much business by
selling a package ONLY doing geocoding/address matching.

>files that are needed to do the coding and I'm not quite sure why. I am only

Some software companies generate a big chunk of their revenue from selling
data sets, which may be created in their own format or the enhanced versions
of public-domain database.

>interested in doing this for addresses in New York State. An help or advice
>would be appreciated! Thanks.

Which state is not really an issue. If the study area(s) is/are in urban or
metropolitan areas, you may consider TIGER files, which provide only 30%
successful matching without any pre or pos-processing (in fact, should be
correction) in one of my study.
If you have rural addresses, the original TIGER will not help.
Some software vendors or database sellers (e.g. GDT in New Hampshire) may
sell you enhanced TIGER, but I have no idea how you can verify how good they
are??

>===============================================================
>=====   Patty Hunt PLH01@ALBNYDH2.BITNET

David Wong
U. Connecticut
From: keane@eng.umd.edu (Christopher Matthews Keane)
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Subject: Establishment of JEI-L
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:00:33 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park


This is an annoucement that may be of interest to some *.gis readers.
The JEI-L mailing list is now operating - it concentrates on the use
of science and technology in the K-12 classroom, especially the use of
scientfic CD-ROM based data sets from USGS, NOAA, and NASA.  If you
are interested in K12 education or in CD-ROM based data sets, feel
free to subscribe to JEI-L at listserv@umdd.umd.edu.

Cheers
Christopher Keane
keane@earthsun.umd.edu
From: bthoen@teal.csn.org (Bill Thoen)
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Subject: Digital Terrain Maps Available
Date: 8 Jan 93 23:50:13 GMT
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
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I just added a great-looking digital map to my ftp site that y'all can
check out. FTP to csn.org and in the COGS directory get ctm_readme.txt and
idaho.gif.  (Remember to set transfer mode to 'binary' for the GIF file).

The following paragraph is a excerpt from the ctm_readme.txt file:

"CTM/Zia Maps offers elevation-tinted, shaded relief format digital base maps
for presentation and analysis work.  These maps are created from USGS and
NGDC topographic data using CTM/Zia's proprietary software, EdWare, on a
Silicon Graphics Iris workstation.  Both 3-dimensional perspective views and
georeferenced planviews are available.  These base maps are raster-format
images available as 24-bit compressed TIFF or 8-bit GIF files.  They are
distributed on 1.44M 3.5" diskette in either DOS or MacIntosh format."


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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:29:03 -0500
From:         hoffmann@URZDFN.KARTOGRAPHIE.TU-DRESDEN.DBP.DE
Subject:      Glossary of GIS terms...

Does anybody have info about reachability of DATA West Research Agency
(FederalWay, WA 98063-3916)  ^^^^^^^^^^^^    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
by email...?
   ^^^^^
They have announced a 460 pp. reference book with about 5500 GIS definitions
to be edited 1993!

Frank Hoffmann, TUD
From: westk@ava.bcc.orst.edu (Ken West)
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Subject: experiences with digitizers??
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:08:41 GMT
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Can anyone comment on the relative merits of or your experiences with Altek,
Calcomp, or Kurta digitizers with GRASS?  We are considering one of the above
in the 36"x48" size with backlighting.  We intend to hang it off a 486-50
running PCTCP and PCXview.  Please email.  thanks in advance.

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From: spf@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Steve Frysinger of Blue Feather Farm)
Subject: Re:      Re: Idrisi
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:42:17 GMT

From article <009664CC.3D76CBE0.31906@ubeclu.unibe.ch>, by         Duester Horst <DUESTER@GIUB.UNIBE.CH>:
> The address of the Idrisi discussionlist:
> 
> 
> IDRISI-L@TOWSONVX.BITNET

What's the protocol for this?  Is there a subscription sequence?

Steve
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From:         E7G4KIN@TOWSONVX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Intergraph to Arc/Info

I may be able to help you with the Intergraph to arc/info translation....
I do a lot of this kinfd of work...please leave me a note with a little bit more
    detail or a way I can get a copy of one of your files...thanks...Ken Kinsey
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:08:24 GMT
From:         Mr Liang Rao <JCDR01@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: running INFO from menu interface

On Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:50:38 -0500 WEIHE GUAN
(GLLGUAN%UBVMS.BITNET@edu.buffalo.cc.UBVM) said:

>>>>  "&sys xterm -e arc" is not able to bring up a new window running arc
>>
>>I know that sometimes this method won't find arc correctly.  Try this:
>>
>>  &sys xterm -e $ARCHOME/programs/arc \&r aml_file
>>
>>or substitute the value of the environment variable ARCHOME.  The same
>>thing will work with INFO:
>>
>>  &sys xterm -e $ARCHOME/programs/info \&r aml_file
>>
>>I hope this helps.  I am still a little confused about what you want
>>to do.  You can call me if you'd like a fresh ear.
>>
>>Michael Fitzgibbon
>>ESRI - Olympia
>>(206) 754-4727

As I know, the above opening of another session of ARC will

1) take another ARC registrated licence;
2) stay in background. Is there anywhere in aml to kill it when
   the session is over?

Liang Rao
RAOL@UXB.LIV.AC.UK
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The address of the Idrisi discussionlist:


IDRISI-L@TOWSONVX.BITNET
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From:         Mutahar Hickey <mhick@BSU-CS.BSU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: GIS SOFTWARES FOR SUPERCOMPUTER

M:Our university decided to purchasing supercomputer, is anyone out there
M:can suuest some GIS softwares which can operate on it. Also, any
M:suggestion are welcome, thanks in advance.
M:
IF your supercomputer is like the Cray I worked with last year, then most
UNIX based C programs for which you have the source code can run on the
machine.  However, you will not necessarily get a marked speedup unless
the source code has been modified explicitly for the supercomputer you are
using.  Usually there is a speedup just due to the fact that the
supercomputer runs at a much higher effective clock speed and also is
organized to use its multiple processors.
        Some supercomputers (I have heard) are much more ticklish, so it
seems that it is important to know what supercomputer you are using.


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