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From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Mann & Machine: Second Episode *SPOILER*
Date: 13 Apr 1992 16:29:54 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: telecaster.think.com

In article <92104.005214SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> <SML108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Well I didn't catch the pilot because I was out of town, but I have to admit
>I liked the interaction between the two main characters in the show in this
>episode.  

Yes, it works very well.  Mann's fatherly interest in Eve works very well.
I liked the scene with the zipper.

There's also usually one really good line by Eve in the episode.  Last
night it was something like, "Who am I to argue with a machine?".

Spoiler after this...

I also liked the variation on the cliche plotline.  I was all ready to
believe that the technician was the killer; in TV-land, frustrated nerds
frequently turn psychotic.  I'm glad they didn't let it go at that.
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

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From: cole@lea.csc.ncsu.edu (Robert Cole)
Subject: Re: ABC Axes Indy!
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 02:04:16 GMT

In article <1992Mar28.082809.16115@menudo.uh.edu> cosc15xo@Elroy.UH.EDU writes:
>>>ABC has canned THE YOUNG INDIANA JONES CHRONICLES.  The last episode
>>>will be a 2 parter airing April 1 and 8.  No word on whether the remaining
>>>episode will be shown or not.  Write ABC folks, and quick.

After tonight's episode, there was a voice-over saying that the show
would return later this year with all new episodes.

Robert G. Cole
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From: 21329KAD@MSU (Kim Dyer)
Subject: Re: QL: Famous people
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: 7 Apr 1992 18:31:00 EDT

>I've been wondering how many famous people Sam runs
>into these days.  Certainly less than Young Indy!  I've only seen four:
>   Stephen King
>   Rudy Valle (someone told me this one)
>   Donald Trump
>   another I can't remember.

I don't recall either Trump or Rudy Valle ... although I recall
characters obviously based HEAVILY on them.
From: legacy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (wayne.m.simpson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Space 1999 anyone ??????
Summary: her name was Zenia Merton
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:48:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <schumach.702405650@convex.convex.com> schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher) writes:
>>Take my word for it, you're much better off not remembering
>>any more.
>
>Aww, the theme music was kinda good. 
>
>BTW: who played the petite brunette vixen that worked in the command
>center?

   The character of Sandra Benes (pronounced "Benish") was played
by Zenia Merton. I may have the first name spelled wrong, but that's
how you pronounce it. And yes, she was cute as I remember her...


-Wayne
From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown Matt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Mann & Machine
Date: 7 Apr 92 10:11:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <1992Apr4.052608.9327@helios.physics.utoronto.ca> neufeld@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Christopher Neufeld) writes:
}   Am I the only person who thinks this sounds a lot like an old police
}show called "Holmes and Yoyo"? It was a long time ago, about thirteen

	Unfortunately, this will be the thing I always think of first whenever
I see John Schuck in a role.. (Maybe partially because his last name seemed
odd when I was a little kid)
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From: neilw@informix.com (Neil Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Mann & Machine
Date: 17 Apr 92 02:54:07 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Apr8.193644.20883@mlb.semi.harris.com> cbh@opus.mlb.semi.harris.com (Cherie R. Slasor) writes:
>In article <1937@ra.nrl.navy.mil> ghost@ra.nrl.navy.mil (G. Host) writes:
>>> Article <1992Apr7.074533.14289@zia.aoc.nrao.edu> From: jogle@nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
>>> >keep watching it, though. Any deficiencies in last night's ep were redeemed
>>> >for me by that line about "Drs. Scott, Deckard, Ford, and Hauer", though! :-)
>>> !!! I missed that (but sound quality on tv is pretty bad around here)....
>>I got the line
>>  Scott == Montgomery Scott, Chief Engineer of the Enterprise,
>>  Deckard == Bladerunner,
>>  Ford == Harrison Ford/Bladerunner (or Ford motor company :-) )
>>  but who is Hauer?
>
>Hauer = Rutger Hauer/the android from Bladerunner

How about Scott == Ridley Scott, the director of Bladerunner, since
they're on a Bladerunner kick?

--Neil
From: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: New SF shows for next season
Date: 10 Apr 92 15:29:53 GMT
Reply-To: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: 3WA, Boston Office. Or Nu Meta Chi. Take your pick.
In-reply-to: hardcle@elof.iit.edu's message of 10 Apr 92 06:49:58 GMT
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>>>>> On 10 Apr 92 06:49:58 GMT, hardcle@elof.iit.edu (Cleveland Hardin) said:

hardcle> What follows are brief descriptions of upcoming TV shows with a
hardcle> sci-fi theme.  I got this info from Thursday's Chicago Tribune

hardcle> "Deadly Games" an action show about video-game villains who escape
hardcle> into the real world. From ABC next fall.

If they do it anything like Automan, thpppt. Depends on who's fighting the
villains. Could be the reverse of _Tron_, which might be interesting.

[...]

hardcle> "Knightrider 2010" All about a futuristic detective-for-hire who
hardcle> rides in a supercar.  Based on the original NBC series. Due next
hardcle> season.

Oh, jheeeze, not again.

hardcle> "Star Trek:Deep Space Nine" I think we've all heard about this.

This may actually get me interested in Star Trek again. Maybe.

hardcle> "The Doors" a sci-fi adventure about a doctor and a young woman
hardcle> who travel through "doors" to parallel universes.  From ABC for
hardcle> next season.

Starring Jim Morrison :-) (Sorry, couldn't resist).

hardcle> "Running Delilah" Starring Kim Cattrall as a half-woman,
hardcle> half-android secret agent.  From ABC for next season

At least this cyborg will probably have a human brain, and *know* the
difference between literal and figurative. Not to mention slang. And
propriety. And...

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From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: SFA Network News Part 4
Date: 12 Apr 92 10:20:18 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <01GINEK4M44OEBOTJC@TNTECH.BITNET> THC8650@TNTECH.BITNET ("Troy H. Cheek  The /|tari Cowboy") writes:
>

	Have you heard of Distrbution ?????

	This is abviously a USA/North American only story and is of little/
no interest to the world wide community. Your several messages have taken up
a lot of bandwidth. Some people, not myself personally, pay for Usenet access.

	Next time use the distrubution huh !


	Regards,

	Neil
From: jogle@nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Mann & Machine
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:37:15 GMT
Reply-To: jogle@nrao.edu
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory

There's a lot that could be done with this show, but they probably won't....
Oh well.  I thought it was 'merely acceptable'.  Despite a couple of throwaway
comments and (of course) the androids, the show really didn't feel like a
near-future setting; it felt like 1992 LA with a little glitz thrown on to make
it seem 'futuristic'.

The movie on after M&M, "Steel Justice", did a better job conveying the
feel of a futuristic setting, even if it did steal HEAVILY from Blade Runner
to do so....

---
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, Torg guru)
jogle@nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."
From: eabu202@orion.oac.uci.edu (Virany Margaret Kreng)
Subject: Re: Nightmare Cafe
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:08:56 GMT

I'm new to this newsgroup, but I had to pop in and say how much I'll miss 
Nightmare Cafe.  Granted, the last few episodes weren't as good as the first
two, but it was still a cool show... something different.  If it hadn't been
up against 20/20 it would probably have done a heckuva lot better.

Oh well.  I'll miss Lindsay Frost, though.  She's been one of my favorite
actresses since the mid eighties and it's certainly fun to watch her jump
from one TV show and TV movie to another.  

Virany Margaret Kreng
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From: epang@fraser.sfu.ca (Eugene Pang)
Subject: Re: Mann and Machine extra episode
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 07:31:49 GMT

barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin) writes:
>At the end of last night's "Mann and Machine" there were promos for a
>special episode being shown this Tuesday night at 8pm (before "Law and
>Order", which, by the way, shares a creator with M&M).  This was apparently
>scheduled after TV Guide went to press, since my Guide says that "In the
>Heat of the Night" will be shown then.

By now, everyone (interested) knows that this was a repeat of the first
episode.  That makes twice I missed the first 45 minutes.  *sigh*

I also noticed that the slow-mo effect was used (a lot) during the shoot out
sequences on the ship, and IMHO, overused.  This post-production effect was
put to much better use for the swimming pool scene, in the second episode.
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From: gjschmid@lambert.waterloo.edu (Greg Schmidt)
Subject: Re: Marine Boy complaint
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:01:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.234255.20961@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> daw5g@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Michael's brother) writes:
>  Why the heck is it that every time I offer to trade a Marine
>Boy tape with someone they always stop e-mailing me with no
>explanation?
>
>				Just another complaint from Dave
>--

Whoops.  I hadn't realized that we were being that obvious about it.
Oh well.  I guess you're next.  Please do not leave your house.  A
team will be sent to pick you up within the next 24 hours.
From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Geoff Bronner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Mann & Machine -- YAR (Review)
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:00:56 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Organization: Amos Tuck School

In <1992Apr8.173151.15829@spool.cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@cabrales.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:

>These two points make me think of the Six Million Dollar Man.  Think we'll
>see Mann and Eve fighting other (evil) robots in the future?  If the show
>lasts long enough, I'd be willing to lay money on it.  And I bet we'll see
>it more than once.

I would really get tired of evil-robot plots. This reminds me of all the
super cars they built for Knight Rider.

Ah well. We can hpe for better.

-Geoff
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From: campbell3789@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: STAR WARS SPECIAL
Date: 16 Apr 92 17:30:52 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

DOES ANYBODY REMEMBER A SHOW ABOUT STAR WARS IN THE LATE 70s?  I BELIEVE IT
TOOK PLACE ON THE HOME PLANET OF CHEWBACCA.  I AM ONLY 18 YEARS OLD SO I ONLY
REMEMBER A VAGUE IMAGE.  IF ANYBODY KNOWS ANYTHING ABOUT THIS I WOULD
APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION.

KRIS

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From: MDuPree@world.std.com (Micky DuPree)
Subject: >Re: Victor Buono
Keywords: Victor Buono 
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:08:46 GMT


Forgive the lack of attribution.  I don't have the original article.
But somebody asked:
>Now I wonder what other roles other than King Tut people can remember
>of [Victor Buono's] career.

He played a character called (I think) Count Giuseppe in "The Wild Wild
West."  I think this was a recurring role.  I think he also played a
Chinese villain in the debut episode of WWW, "The Night of the Inferno."

This is all that stands out in my mind, but his guest roles were legion.
Possible appearances in "Voyage to the Bottom of the Sea," "Lost in
Space," "Time Tunnel," "I Spy," and "Man from UNCLE" suggest themselves
to me.

-Micky
From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Mann & Machine
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:16:43 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


I expected to see some comments on the actual show by now, but I'll jump
in with a short opinion:  I thought it was typical TV schlock treatment
of "science fiction".  TV writers just don't know how to write science
fiction, so they take their standard detective show script and scribble
in a few minor "sci fi" changes.  There was just nothing in the story other
than minor little prop or dialog changes that couldn't have been an episode
of a hundred other, normal cop shows.

No one connected with the show knows anything at all about computers.  Wow,
she can "download" her brain directly into the computer.  And while she's
doing so, we watch it go by on the screen!  Over a line that says "ASCII file",
even though what's going by looked more like hex to me!

Then they him my pet peeve about androids on TV:  They are always portrayed
as being totally ignorant about slang or idioms.  As if it's our slang that
makes us human.  These androids always have huge memories, and have been fed
the entire reference section of the library, but never a simple dictionary
of slang or even "The Dictionary of Cultural Literacy".

For anyone who cares, even though the opening of the show indicates that it's
some unspecified time in the future, it's 1997.  The scene in his kitchen
showed a calendar in the background, with January 1st on a Wednesday.  Yes,
I know that in real life that was just a 1992 calendar, but the next year
that looks like that is 1997, so clearly that's when the producers intended
the show to be set (yeah, and monkeys fly out my butt).

--James Preston
From: poa@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Peter O. Adeleke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: The Fifth Corner
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:36:07 GMT
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service


I've been seeing previews for an espionage show like ABC's tale about a
husband and wife team who work for the "Agency" or was it "Company."

However, this one seems to be based heavily on a Jason Bourne premise of
amnesia.  I hope its good. and not just a lets-make-love-in-the-bathtub,
shower, or anywhere-our-lives-are-in-danger type of serial.

I expect James Coburn was well cast.

Does anyone have any additional information about the show?  It will air
on NBC.
From: winicur@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Zev Winicur)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Mann & Machine
Date: 7 Apr 92 02:59:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: beagle.winicur.702615544
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

I wasn't sure what to expect from the show.  I figure it would be either really
cool or really stupid.  Well, I think it was somewhere in between.

It seems to take a lot of ideas from both "Alien Nation" and "ST:TNG".  Eve evenmentions going to a nursery school, just like Data's daughter Lal.
I also thought they overdid the theme music and cinematography, trying to 
make it overly melodramatic at times.  For example, there was no need for all
the slo mo near the end.
 
On the other hand, the writing wasn't bad.  The show keeps the banter at a 
steady pace without getting silly.  It is definitely a show for the nineties
(e.g. the black woman police captain).  I get the feeling that show is done
by committee.  They should keep the writers and get rid of the film editors.

Oh, yeah.  I had no problem watching an hour of Yancy Butler.



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Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 00:52:14 EDT
From: <SML108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Mann & Machine: Second Episode
 <1992Apr8.193644.20883@mlb.semi.harris.com> <1992Apr12.062531.20214@uwm.edu>

Well I didn't catch the pilot because I was out of town, but I have to admit
I liked the interaction between the two main characters in the show in this
episode.  Also, The Abelard Dating Service was a great joke if you know a
little history and also kind of gave away the killer immediately.  Peter
Abelard was a French theologian who couldn't control his urges for a certain
woman, but he couldn't marry her either or he would be defrocked.  He treated
her shabbily until one day he was castrated by her relatives in the night and
she was ultimately sent to a convent.  This was one seriously screwed up guy
who rants on and on in his writings about his higher calling being inhibited
by his earthly urges.  I can't hate a show that brings an obscure reference
like this into it as a clue.
  Overall, it's a mix of Alien Nation, Max Headroom and the interaction from
Something is out There.  I agree the whole premise is ludicrous, but I also
can't hate those cheeseboard shots of Yancy Butler's nipples.  Good grief,
I haven't seen anything like that on TV since the opening of Fast Times at
Ridgemont High.  That line about shiatsu was pretty good too.  Even better
than when Picard swears in French.
  Has anyone noted that Isaac Asimov died the day after this show first aired?
What a way to go...

Scott
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: SFA Network News Part 4
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:23:00 GMT


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From: sally@romana.Tymnet.COM (Sally 'Lucky Bitch' Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Quantum Leap / USA Today
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:56:06 GMT
Organization: None

In article <9204151523.AA17579@rutgers.edu> IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU ("Slow-Children@Play") writes:
>USA Today; Wednesday, April 15, 1992:

(article deleted)

Y'know, putting a SPOILER on this might have been nice -- a lot of
people might not have wanted to know that.

Sally


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From: v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Tomorrow People, Who was their leader?
Keywords: Tomorrow People
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:23:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.tv
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr13.032916.7468@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, tmw4r@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Thomas Munroe Walsh) writes...
>I watched "Tomorrow People" back when it was aired on Nickelodeon and a
>question about it popped into my head recently that maybe someone here can
>answer.  Who played the leader of the Tomorrow People, and is it the same
>actor who played Robin Culcourt (Rebecca Howe's "rich boyfriend") on "Cheers?"

     I don't remember the actor who played Jon at the moment but he
     is definitely not the actor who played Robin Colcort.  



          ^Scott Gorcey, v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu^
From: cehagen@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu (Christopher E. Hagen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Enterprise go *BOOM* (was: Re: star trek-ng)
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:33:17 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

mvp@hsv3.uucp (Mike Van Pelt) writes:

>Re: the time loop episode.

>Why are their explosions so crappy these days?  The first time
>they showed a starship exploding (the Yamato's demise from
>catching an alien computer virus) was great -- flash, gas
>shell, shock wave, identifiable parts spinning off in various
>directions.  Unfortunately, every explosion since then has been
>cheezy "Space 1999" black powder pyrotechnics.

   Simple.  $$$
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