HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gary@isis.cgd.ucar.edu (Gary Strand)
Subject: Championship predictions
Organization: Climate and Global Dynamics Division/NCAR, Boulder, CO
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:18:34 GMT


  NFC Championship:            AFC Championship
  SAN FRANCISCO       21       MIAMI              17
  Dallas              24       Buffalo            27

  Super Bowl:
  Dallas              24
  Buffalo             35

--
Gary Strand                      Opinions stated herein are mine alone and are
strandwg@ncar.ucar.edu            not representative of NCAR, UCAR, or the NSF
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: scott@ne3005.reston.ingr.com (Scott Gentry)
Subject: Re: NFL Merchandise
Organization: Intergraph Corp., Reston, VA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 18:16:28 GMT

dggok@pbhyg.PacBell.COM (4E150M) writes:

>(No other teams listed in article.)

>You can contact NFL properties on (212) 838-0660.  No 800 number
>was given.

Additionally, one might want to contact:

Athletic Supply of Dallas, Inc.
10812 Alder Circle
Dallas, TX 75238

Catalog costs $2.00 

1-800-635-4438

Probably the most complete catalog of authentic NFL merchandise.
For Christmas, I received a Cowboys Apex Parka and it's great --
same thing the coaches wear on the sidelines.  I've also ordered
a number of other items from them.  They're prompt and courteous
but during the holidays they were out of stock on many items.  
Wanna helmet?  They got 'em, too -- in two flavors, the real thing
and a less expensive version.

I have no connection with Athletic Supply of Dallas, Inc.  I'm 
just a satisfied customer.  

-- 
***************************************************************************
* W. Scott Gentry       | scott@brnded.reston.ingr.com         |    Go    *
* Intergraph Corporation| AOL: AFL Scott or aflscott@aol.com   | Cowboys! *
***************************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: The Best of Teams, the Worst of Teams
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:19:45 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.152102.12531@asl.dl.nec.com> nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix) writes:
>Go figure the Bills!  Having the biggest comeback in NFL history is a feather
>in their cap, but it also means they were getting destroyed by Houston.  Will
>the real Bills please stand up!  Outscored 63 to 6 for six quarters then going
>on a 38-3 tear for 2+ quarters.  Buffalo just had one of the worst halfs in
>NFL playoff history, followed by one of the best halfs in NFL history.
>
>The Bills, whom I though were history in the playoffs without Kelley and with
>Thomas banged up, have now advanced and have added a factor in their favor:
>they are unpredictable and dangerous.  Don't expect any future Buffalo opponents
>sit on a lead.
>
>Nix
>

EXACTLY!  Some netters were furious when the Niners "ran up the score"
against the Broncos in their last SB! Yeah right. NEVER let up in big 
time games! Go for the kill and then back up and run over them again is my
credo. This is the NFL and there is always the chance the "losing"
team can come back. I think next years games will result in
more blowouts and none of this, let's back off, we are ahead
35-3 stuff. The BILLS are to be commended for their resurrection!
-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Re: WHAT A GAME!!!! (Bills-Oilers)
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:01:45 GMT

In article <56840004@hpindda.cup.hp.com> pankaj@hpindda.cup.hp.com (Pankaj Shukla) writes:
>What a Game!!!!!
>
>I have been a Bills fan for over twenty years and this was probably the most
>memorable Bills game I have ever seen. (Maybe, if we had won the superbowl
>the past two years I would've like Bills-Giants game better.)
>
>That was the most incredible football game I have ever seen. Well after a
>game like that I think Buffalo has the momentum to beat the Steelers in
>Pittsburgh. 
>
>Prediction:
>Buffalo - 28
>Pittsburgh - 14
>
>Sincerely,
>
>Pankaj Shukla
>
My opinion is that the Bills COULD HAVE played their BEST game
this past weekend (Oilers-Bills Wild-Card game).  Which means, 
come next game, they might not be ready for it.  To play such
an intense, super-charged game and then come back the following
week is probably asking too much, too soon. Just MHO.

-- 
 ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
"To be absolutely certain about something, one must know
everything or nothing about it."   Olin Miller
From: schnell@pyramid.unr.edu (Dan Schnell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: If and When
Summary: playoff game time problems
Keywords: more like when the chargers, bills win
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:44:54 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Nevada Reno


Okay, let's just s'ppose here.

Chargers beat Fish.
Bills beat Steelers.

Niners beat Redskins.
Dallas/Philly whatever.

The pairings for next week would be:
Buffalo at San Diego
San Francisco hosts game.

Now, both games would be on sunday, and both games would be on the west
coast.  Which game would be the "early game", starting at 10AM pacific
time?  I can tell you right now, the Chargers would get screwed, and have
to play the early game, fate is cruel to the Chargers in Afc championship
history.  San Francisco would "pull rank" and demand the prime start time.
 Or what does youse think?

GO CHARGERS

Dan Schnell
schnell@unr.cs.edu
From: tehyang@aludra.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: GIBBS 2-6 vs 49ERS
Date: 6 Jan 1993 17:29:00 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <27000202@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison) writes:
>Cowboys expected to beat Eagles which should feature Cowboys at 49ers
>in NFC Title game at 'stick. Just imagine, a rematch featuring all new
>players (except for Montana) from the same teams exactly 11 years later
>if 49ers and Cowboys win this weekend. 49ers are sick and tired of
>hearing about how wonderful the Cowboys are. 

It's funny to hear how everyone is hyping about the great Cowboys v.s. 49ers
matchup that is to come. It ain't going to happen. The Eagles will be the ones
at Candlestick for the rematch and to avenge that 20-14 loss.

-Teh Kao
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Still say Montana shouldn't replace Humpheries in SD?
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:33:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.171656.19089@pony.Ingres.COM>, daveb@Ingres.COM (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418) writes:
> Earlier I nominated SD as a team that could use Montana's services
> next year.  This was pooh-poohed by those saying Humperies was it for SD.


That would include me.

> 
> The evidence is in.  This Stan is not The Man.  

What evidence? One game? Does that wipe out all the good things he has
done in the whole season? Remember that this is Humphries' first full 
season as a starter in the NFL. Remember that he came into SD just before 
the season started. He didn't start the 1st game. From then on he has been
solid. He is young, he is tough guy, and has a strong arm. I can only see
him getting better.


> If I were the SD management, I'd look and see a passing game that
> can't work w/o an established run, making it impossible to mount any
> kind of comeback, or get involved in a shootout.  I'd see a 5th year
> QB who has been injured and can't carry the team, and a mediocre at
> best backup.  Still looks like the weak spot in the team to me.


A lot of sweeping judgements about a QB. How many times did you see him
play this year?


> Maybe Humperies can come around.  He might learn a lot watching Joe
> direct the offense for a while.  Heck, it worked for Steve Young.


OK, he will be a good influence on Humphries. But at what cost Joe Montana?
SF will probably ask for some ridiculous price based on reputation. No way
is SD going to trade major players/picks and ruin the team a la Minnesota
[for Walker].

_______________________________________________________
| Prashanth                    |                      |
| U. of California @ San Diego | prash@raman.ucsd.edu |
#######################################################
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Ditka fired!
Date: 6 Jan 93 00:22:47 GMT
Distribution: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Hey Bears fan,

As the recipient of one really unwanted coaching change (Parcells goes and
Handley comes in), let me offer you the sincerest condolences!  Rumour has
it that next in line for the coaching job in Chicago is Vince Tobin, the
Bears defensive coordinator, due to his close ties with management. Now, if
memory serves me correct, the weakest link in the Bears team this year has
been their porous defense!  I sincerely hope that this ugly rumour does not
come to light... no fan should have to go through what we GIANTS fans had
to for the last two seasons.  I also hope you folks get a coach who can keep
up the consistency that Ditka had maintained over the last decade... say a Dan
Reeves, Bill Parcells, type!

'Tis a sorry day indeed when a good coach is forced out after a bad season!

satish nair
ray is gone! (and, unfortunately, so is mike)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius)
Subject: Re: Cowboys KILL Eagles
Organization: University of Central Florida
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:37:30 GMT

rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K) writes:

>In article <schnitzi.726858334@eola.cs.ucf.edu> schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius) writes:
>>
>>I've posted maybe five or six letters here, all within the past month
>>or so.  I really think you have me confused with my brother, who posts
>>here frequently.  And he didn't woof, either.  In any case you're full
>>of shit.

>And you're a typical Eagles fan, your team loses and you
>resort to name calling, real mature.  

Oh, really?  And what name did I call you?

You posted a trash-talking article, and closed it by putting down trash-
talkers.  That makes you a hypocrite -- strike one.

You called me a woofer, and thoroughly failed to support this claim,
because it is untrue.  This makes you a liar.  Strike two.

Now you claim that *I* was the one who resorted to name-calling.  What
color is the sky in your little world?  You are out of touch with
reality.  Strike three.

>I posted an article
>about the game and my opinion about the Eagles' strategy.
>I had something insightful to say, and I said it.

I urge everyone to go back to the first article of this thread and reread
Ray's "insightful" opinion about Eagle's strategy.

Ray, you take cluelessness to new heights.


Mark Schnitzius
schnitzi@eola.cs.ucf.edu
University of Central Florida
From: smm@rodan.UU.NET (Steve Mansfield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers/Redskins
Date: 7 Jan 1993 08:46:28 -0500
Organization: UUNET Technologies Inc, Falls Church, VA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net

In article <1993Jan6.194438.21583@netcom.com> mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:
>>Things are already looking better for the Skins!  Maybe another
>>mud-bowl?
>
>Almost certainly a mud bowl.  I don't know whether it's better for the 
>Skins or not, though.  Last night, some of the more informed SF sports
>commentators (Wayne Walker for one) were speculating that foul weather
>might work against the Skins, who are a smaller, more speed-oriented
>team than the Hawgs made famous.  According to Wayne, the Skins need

Maybe smaller than the original hawgs, but by no means a *small* team.
The vikings learned that last Saturday.  The Redskins are still very much
a size-oriented team.  Defensively they're more speed oriented than
before, but offensively? No.

>a dry, fast surface to get the offense going.

In all the past wet games I've watched in the past, the SKins have
basically had a field day (pardon the uninteltional pun 8-) with other
teams.  Look at the aforementioned mud-bowl against Atlanta.  A complete
slaughter.


Steve Mansfield                   Junior AlterNet Engineer 
smm@uunet.uu.net                  uunet!smm
From: steffen8546@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: ELWAY AUTOGRAPH CARD FOR SALE
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:46:02 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I have a John Elway Collectors Edge autograph card.  Don't remember the serial
number right off hand, but I can get it.  I will take best offer for it.  Vax
me with bid or if you want more info.

Starting bid: $125

Jason Steffen

steffen8546@iscsvax.uni.edu
From: scsd1055@altair.selu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Saints humor, & Rush Limbaugh (UGH!)
Date: 5 Jan 93 23:21:05 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University

	In today's edition of the Times-Picayune, in the editorial
section, there is a cartoon that made me roll.

	A picture of a large Saints player carrying a monkey on his back.
The monkey has a bag over his head.  Two Saints fans with 'CHANG CHING' &
'WHO DAT' shirts comment -- "Man, things are really getting bad...even
the monkey's wearing a bag on his head..."

	I thought it was rather humorous.

	On another note...not very humourous.  Did anyone see Rush "the fat
ass" Limbaugh's tribute to the Houston Oilers?  He had a prepped segment
showing all the 2nd half touchdowns scored by the Bills on the Oillers
while playing the Oilers fight song at warped speeds (fast, then slow, then
fast, then pitifully slow until the song finally ground down to nothing).
I thought it was, as is par for Mr. Limbaugh, rather tacky and assinine!
But, if you're a Bills fan I guess you loved it (which I'm not).

Bill Plunkett,
- Geaux Saints (I typed that slowly and painfully)
- Hey, we Saints fans can still have a sense of humor.
From: rhan@messier.berkeley.edu (Richard Han)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Cold and Windy Candlestick
Date: 8 Jan 1993 18:26:30 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: messier.berkeley.edu

If Candlestick is cold and windy AND rainy on Saturday, does the weather
necessarily favor the Niners?  On one hand, the Niners are used to
Candlestick's often inclement conditions.  On the other hand, the 'Skins
have to play in wide-open RFK and should be used to horrendous weather.
Weather is supposed to be a great equalizer in terms of negating a stronger
team's (Niners) advantage on the field.  Yet, John Madden said that he
thinks weather in fact favors the offense, because it knows beforehand where
it's going.  And earlier this year, the Niners played well against the
Dolphins (I think) in the rain at Candlestick.  This prior experience can
only help the Niners.  

Forecast for the game is intermittent rain Saturday, highs in the mid-50's.

Rick
Organization: Senior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Date: Tue,  5 Jan 1993 18:07:13 -0500 
From: Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Playoff thoughts....
	<5181@equinox.unr.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.football.pro: 5-Jan-93 Re: Playoff
thoughts.... Dan Schnell@pyramid.unr. (343)

> In article <0fG_Ena00WDKM36X4z@andrew.cmu.edu> vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu
> (Vernon H Harmon) writes:
> >Here's a thought:
> >My guess is that SD will avenge their loss in the "greatest game ever
> >played"(tm)

> >--Vernon.

> Whaoa!  San Diego won that game.  41-38.  Went on to lose in Cincinatti.
> But Sandy Haygo is going to win Sunday, too...

> GO CHARGERS


gulp! Mea Culpa. I got my years mixed up! That was the year Cincy lost
to SF in the 'Bowl, not the year Miami lost to Washington. I got my
years mixed up, and I (ashamed as I am to admit it) have never actually
seen the game in question. :(

--Vernon.
whether SD goes this year or not, next year they *will* win it all......
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: LIST OF FRUSTRATIONS.
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:53:39 GMT

In article <C0GB3L.5A9@ns1.nodak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (S. Hariharan ) writes:
>Here is a Category-wise list of Team of Frustrations. Corrections
>are welcome from fans of other teams and I will post a revised list.
>
>D) HAVE NEVER BEEN TO A PLAYOFF GAME
>---------------------------------------------------
>1) Tampa Bay
    ^^^^^^^^^ NOT!!!
>2) Sea-Hawks
>

The Buccaneers have a lifetime playoff record of 1 - 3.  Our team
made the playoffs on three occasions:  after the 1979,  1981, and
1982 seasons. The Buccaneers won the first playoff game they were
involved in, 24 - 17, over the Philadelphia Eagles  (who made the
playoffs again the next season and went on to lose to the Oakland
Raiders in Super Bowl XV).  They then lost  the NFC  Championship
game (which was played in Tampa Stadium) 9 - 0 to the Los Angeles
Rams (who went on to fall to the Steelers in Super Bowl XIV). The
Bucs were bounced in the first round of their next two,  and only
other, playoff appearances to date: 38 - 0 to the Cowboys in 1981
(who went on to lose to the 49'ers on "The Catch") and 21 - 17 to
the Cowboys in the abbreviated strike season of 1982.

PS, The Seahawks have been to the playoffs in the past also,  but
    I'll let their fans fill you in on the details.
--
+---------------------+-----------------------+-----------------------+
|Leopold E. James     | "A heart, a soul, AND | AT&T Paradyne         |
|ph: (813) 530-8425   |  a mind are terrible  | P.O. Box 2826, LG-132,|
|lej@pdn.paradyne.com |  things to waste."    | Largo, FL 34649 (USA) |
From: jorgand@sumax.seattleu.edu (Dave Jorgan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Seattle took Philly to OT?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 19:23:34 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

In article <1ifou7INNe36@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> bih@mowgli.East.Sun.COM writes:
>
>This is great! You make such a big deal about Philly having to go to OT to beat
>the Seahawks but you just blow off the Cowboys' loss to the Rams as if it were
>insignificant! Maybe the Rams game was a "requisite blown game"; you can
>just as easily call the Seahawks game a "blown game" that the Eagles still won.
>Actually the Eagles dominated the game but 190 yards in penalties will make 
>any win look ugly.

	10 sacks given up, plus an interception and a lost fumble also make
a win look ugly. Watching that game, at no time did I ever get the impression
the Eagles were dominating (offensively.) They moved the ball, but seemed to
fall short outside of FG range. True, Seattle was throttled by the Eagle
defense, but just about every defense Seattle faced throttled them, Seattle
had a middle-tier USFL offense at best.

	In support of the Eagles, they did beat Seattle in Seattle, and the
Dallas win was made even worse when Seattle had changed QB's three times.
They had just lost Stouffer in San Diego, so McGwire was making his 1st start
of his career and only his 2nd overall. Then, McGwire was knocked down during
the game and Gelbaugh took over. None of the QB's had more than a few months
experience in the new offensive system under Flores, so the many changes
made Seattle's offense even less "effective" than usual (read: turnovers
added to the usual offensive impotetence.) By the Eagle game Seattle had pretty
much settled on Gelbaugh at QB, the best of a bad lot.



Dave Jorgan

>
>As for the Eagles losses, let's see who they were to:
>
>Kansas City (9-7?), Washington (9-7), Dallas (13-3), Green Bay (9-7) and San 
>Francisco (14-2). You may notice each of these teams has a winning record
>and they were all on the road. That is certainly nothing to be ashamed of. 
>So unlike the Cowboys, no blown games here!
>
>Seriously, Dallas has had a great year but only a fool would discount the Eagles
>have a chance at pulling off the upset. Should be a great game and to the victor
>go the spoils (and woofs I guess).
>
>-Bennet
>
>
>
From: buds@hpubvwa.nsr.hp.com (Bud Sloan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bledsoe to enter the draft
Date: 7 Jan 1993 23:15:27 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Bellevue Sales Office
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpubvwa.nsr.hp.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.1]

G G ZIPFEL (piz@cbnewsl.cb.att.com) wrote:
: 	                                                         As for
: 	Bledsoe, I would hope that the Cardinals look at him, or maybe
: 	the Saints? Denver? 
:

He'll be LONG GONE before any of them get a shot.  He'll either be a
Patriot or a Seahawk next year (unless someone trades up).
From: pdietz@cse.unl.edu (Phil Dietz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: What Pittsburg needs to win in '93.
Date: 12 Jan 1993 22:51:44 GMT
Organization: NCEMRSoft
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cse.unl.edu


It's disappointing to see the Stellers go so far and choke so bad.  However
I soon got happy knowing that the draft will be up soon to fix Pitts. problems.
 
Here are the areas I feel Pitt. needs most:
 
1) Decent wide receivers.  Sure Graham and Stone are fairly good, however 
   in the last 8 games they've been dropping balls like crazy.  Mills came
   around and looks like he is decent as well.  What Pitt. needs is one or even
   two "top-flight" pass receivers.  So when we play Buffalo, we won't be seeing
   3 guys covering Mills...2 guys covering Cooper.
 
   ps. It would also help if they'd throw more long balls!  Jeesh...the longest
   pass against Buffalo was <20 yards (even when they were down by 21!)

2) Offensive lineman.  True, Dawson and what's-his-name are pro-bowlers, 
   however Pitt. gets sacked to damn much (look at the last few weeks at
   Cincinatti, Buffalo, Chicago, even Chicago.
 
3) Not to be rude, but a younger faster Line backer.  Williams and Lloyd are
   mean mothers, however they had very few sacks this year.  The majority
   came in one game (Cincinatti).  If Pittsburgh were to get a Eric Curry or
   whatever for the aging David Little...things may turn around.
 
4) Should probably invest in another RB just in case Foster's negotiations
   faulter.  One benefit is that is Foster leaves Pitt., Pitt. will be able 
   to sign another Free agent.
 
5) This should probably be higher but the Defensive secondary has been very
   problematic this year (23rd passing D(?))  Sure they are mean as hell too
   (ie strip and hit) but they are covering their men to well.  Just look at
   Walker vs. Beebe in Buffalo.  Walker would stand 10-15 yards back.  This 
   pretty much guarentees a short-out pass.  Perhaps Pitt. should be looking
   for a new defensive coordinator over a new secondary.  Someone that will
   say "cover your man this time."

To summarize the draft should empahsize:

Wide Receivers: 40%
Offensive Line: 20%
Defensive Line: 15%
Running Back:   10%
Secondary:       5%
QB's:            5%
Tight Ends:      3%
Other:           2%


Feel free to offer your opinions/college player picks.

--
Phil Dietz    pdietz@cse.unl.edu    University of Nebraska CS    Go Amiga!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro