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From: oxenreid@chaos.cs.umn.edu ()
Subject: Re: Tandy Bashing
Organization: University of Minnesota
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 04:26:47 GMT

In <randall.725154521@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:

>oxenreid@chaos.cs.umn.edu writes:

>>Or get out of your Metro area, and make your self known to a 
>>Radio Shack _Dealer_.  This is a franchise person, and  he/she takes 
>>there money out of the till, and so they need work for their money.
>>Tread carefully though, Radio Shaft is shafting its dealers too.

>The quality of Radio Shack dealers (independently owned RS stores)
>is inconsistent.   I worked for one once, and it was a pretty shabby
>operation.   At least with store-owned outlets, you will
>get the same products for the same price.  (the manager can
But remember, dealer stores are mostly ma & pa operations, so

the quality will vary, though you are better able to cut a deal
with a dealer store than with any store owned by Tandy,
From: alanb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Alan Bloom)
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:12:00 GMT
Subject: Re: RE: writing out -- --- .-. ... . in order to pass your exam
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:

>Old Sammy Morse thought putting the dots and dashes down on paper and
>"reading" the code *was* the normal way. It's the way he invented it
>and did it. If it's good enough for old Sammy.....

But the dots and dashes were written down by a machine, not by hand.

AL N1AL
From: mikef@pacifier.rain.com (Mike Freeman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Online Repeater Directory?
Date: 23 Dec 92 17:39:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: pacifier.1992Dec23.173922.18314
Organization: Pacifier BBS

In article <1992Dec19.234033.26504@panix.com> oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl) writes:
>In <1992Dec19.162320.1790@netcom.com> stevew@netcom.com (Steven Wilson) writes:
>

[Much material deleted]

>Well, before we get out of hand ... realize that the ARRL repeater directory
>is less than perfect.  The NY/NJ/CT portion, for example, has not been
>updated lately.
>
>

Also realize that the directory is not available, to my knowledge,
in media accessible to the blind, e.g., Braille, cassette or
computer disk.
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From: a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: UPS gives up on 220? (was Re: 430mhz band under th)
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:26:56 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

The FCC changed the rules on these lotteries to avoid speculation. 
These days you have to show an intent to use the service applied for.

More details from the FCC.

73 de Kevin Purcell N7WIM/G8UDP (Seattle, WA)          a-kevinp@microsoft.com
Do your interests match mine? If so call me. I'd like to hear from you.
QRP, Packet, TCP/IP, Digital voice, Macintosh, Spread Spectrum, Homebrew,
Satellites, Antenna design, Propagation, VHF/UHF weak signal, Microwave, QEX
From: a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 72?
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:30:54 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

I thought I new all the stange abbreviations but one still puzzles me: 
72. I've had a few people append 72 (often with 73, like 72/73) at the 
end of notes. Most (all?) of these people are QRPers.

Can anyone tell me what this means and how it was derived?

73 de Kevin Purcell N7WIM/G8UDP (Seattle, WA)          a-kevinp@microsoft.com
Do your interests match mine? If so call me. I'd like to hear from you.
QRP, Packet, TCP/IP, Digital voice, Macintosh, Spread Spectrum, Homebrew,
Satellites, Antenna design, Propagation, VHF/UHF weak signal, Microwave, QEX

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From: ted@tedb.demon.co.uk (Edward Batts)
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 93 19:31:04 GMT

In article <1993Jan02.061920.7115@ssc.com>, tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
> In article <1992Dec30.114623.1@ttd.teradyne.com> rice@ttd.teradyne.com writes:
>>
>>That's not what I said. What I said was that any Ham has the right by law
>>to transmit on any frequency for which he is liscensed. Period. The repeater
                                                                   -----------
>>operator has the right to turn off the machine. Period. 
  ----------------------------------------------
>>
> 
> 
> Let me see if I have this straight (!).........     :)
> 
> I get my 440 MHz link set up, and get a coordinated frequency from
> the local coordination council.  Everything works fine, until one
> day YOU show up and start transmitting there.
> 
> And *I* have to turn off my gear??
> 
> I don't think so!
> 
Read what I wrote. You don't HAVE to DO anything. But if you don't want 
the station to be repeated, you have the right to not do so.

But if the frequency is not in use at the time you have no exclusive right
to say who can or cannot transmit on that frequency. And nothing in part
97 implies that you have that right.

K9IJ
From: asqp-nbf@zama-emh1.army.mil (ASQP-NBF)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Merry Christmas
Date: 23 Dec 92 09:01:19 GMT
Organization: ucsd usenet gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Merry Christmas to all of you wherever you are in the world.
73 de Roland 7J1AKI
From: a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 900 MHz is shared with all kinds of stuff
Date: 30 Dec 92 22:08:58 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

One problem with using Part 15 spreadspectrum devices in the Amateur 
service is that we are allowed only very limited spreading schemes (its 
all in part 97). Part 15 devices are limited to low power (less than 1 
watt, 30dBm) but have minimal limitations on the spreading sequences 
(just enough to make sure they are SS!). So you can't just put a power 
amp on one of these devices and then use it in the amateur service.

This is a shame and will soon start to restrict amateur 
experimentation, especially as we share three bands with these devices 
(900, 2400 and 5300Mhz). The amateur SS rules will need to be changed 
in the future to accomadate these devices.

73 de Kevin Purcell N7WIM/G8UDP (Seattle, WA)          a-kevinp@microsoft.com
Do your interests match mine? If so call me. I'd like to hear from you.
QRP, Packet, TCP/IP, Digital voice, Macintosh, Spread Spectrum, Homebrew,
Satellites, Antenna design, Propagation, VHF/UHF weak signal, Microwave, QEX
From: 76703.3035@CompuServe.COM (Steve Silverwood [CA])
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Info-Hams Digest V92 #13
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:58:56 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

  >I was the dude that started this thread.  Idea being that everyone
  >thought that the ARRL directory wasn't as useful as it could be and
  >therefore I considered scanning in what they had and then taking
  >modifications from you.
 
  >Watch for software within the next several months which will contain
  >all the data from the ARRL and then allow you to map routes, get
  >local listings, and many other useful things!  What platform would
  >you guys prefer (NT, windows, dos)?
 
John:  Have you considered possible copyright issues?  If you scan the
data direct from the ARRL Repeater Directory, won't there be the
possibility that they could sue for copyright violation?  (Just playing
devil's advocate here....)
 
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Date: Sunday, 27 Dec 1992 16:29:47 EST
From: <SUSEEA@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help w/National NCX-5 Transceiver

Looking for NCX-A 115/230 volt power supply for the NCX-5
transceiver.  Or suitable substitute.  A national 12 volt
supply for this rig would be accepted as well.  If you know
of one, have one working or not please contact me.  Would
really like to get this rig running.
From: clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Request INFO: Alinco DJ-560T DTMF deviation adjustment (?)
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 10:16:19 EST
Keywords: Alinco DJ-560T DTMF deviation
Summary: What internal pot adjusts DTMF deviation?
Distribution: world
Organization: Private UUCP "Twig" Node
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00

        Here in Kitchener, we have a repeater based around an ACC RC-85
controller.  One of its problems, among other things, is that it seems to
only accept '*' entries from about 40% of the repeater users.  This makes
it AWEFULLY hard to make autopatch calls, including 911.  At first I
thought it was just me, but I have found out differently in the mean time. 
I have also performed tests on repeaters all over southern Ontario and the
northern US (during inversions) and EVERY repeater except this one works
flawlessly.  Anyone would conclude that there is something wrong with our
repeater...except the person delegated to maintain it.  He feels that
everyone's radio is wrong.  

        Anyways, down to the point.  At our next club meeting (Jan 4), we
all have the chance to test our DTMF deviation with an IFR.  As anyone who
has purchased the 560 knows, no schematic is supplied unless you purchase a
service manual.  I am interested in finding out what pot internally adjusts
the DTMF deviation from someone who owns such a service manual.  I have not
yet decided whether I will actually do anything to my rig as all evidence
shows that our repeater has the problem, not my radio, but the information
would be apprecaited.  E-mail or post.  (E-mail preferred for speed).

Thanks in advance and Happy new Year,



--
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 clemon@lemsys.UUCP clemon%lemsys@xenitec.on.ca  | 1B Electrical Engineering
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From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Date: 1 Jan 93 14:52:05 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems

In article <C04rwM.u1@NeoSoft.com> jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.234200.11309@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec30.062020.24365@ssc.com> tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook) writes:
>>>
>>>     (e) Ancillary functions of a repeater that are available to
>>>users on the input channel are not considered remotely controlled
>>>functions of the station.  LIMITING THE USE OF A REPEATER TO ONLY
>>>CERTAIN USER STATIONS IS PERMISSIBLE.
>>> 
>>>(CAPITALIZED EMPHASIS IS MINE)
>>
>>Second, section (e) refers to
>>*ancillary* functions of repeaters and the ability to limit access to
>>those *ancillary* functions to certain user stations. This doesn't
>>address closed repeaters where the *primary* function of the repeater
>>is restricted.
>
>I don't think you're correct.  If you read what it says, it says two things:
>
>1.  Ancillary functions of a repeater that are available to users on the input
>channel are not considered remotely controlled functions of the station.
>
>...and 2.  Limiting the use of a repeater to only certain user stations is
>permissable.
>
>The intent here was to specifically define the legality of restricted access
>repeater stations.

I think if that's what they meant, then they would have divided the two
unrelated things into two different subparts like they do in other sections
of the rules. IE they would have had your two unrelated sections in a
97.205(e)(1) and a separate 97.205(e)(2), or used a totally separate
subpart (g) since they already saw fit to use subparts (a) thru (f)
in this section on repeater operations. They even divide (f) into a (1) 
and a (2). No, I believe they are referring to the primary (e) operation, 
that is control of ancillary functions. They're saying it's ok not to give 
out the touchtone codes for various things like autopatches to non-members.

Gary
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From: kb7uv@panix.com (Andy Funk)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Why "Y" on repeater ID's?
Date: 28 Dec 92 20:55:53 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <7689@dove.nist.gov> furuta@cs.umd.edu (Richard Furuta) writes:

>Well, my CW skills aren't quite up to speed yet, but I *think* that
>when some of of the local repeaters id they prepend a "Y" onto the
>front of the call, for example "YKC3K/R" for the KC3K repeater.  I
>also think I'm hearing this for the local shuttle rebroadcasts
>"YWA3NAN" for "WA3NAN".  Am I really hearing this?  What's the
>significance?

>Thanks.

>					--Rick
>					  N3JGF
>					  furuta@cs.umd.edu


Are you sure you're not hearing "DE" (Dah-di-dit Dit), meaning "this is" ???

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From: tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:22:08 GMT
Subject: Seeking Weathercube mods QST article
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc

Last night I picked up a Radio Shack "weathercube" receiver.  I
recall that there was an article in QST some years ago that mentioned
how to modify it to give some 2 meter coverage.  Can anyone point me
to that article or similar mods?  

73, Tom -- K7ITM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Format of Code Exams?
From: clmorgan@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu
Date: 31 Dec 92 07:40:02 EST

In article <1992Dec30.171649.19454@wam.umd.edu>, ham@wam.umd.edu (Scott Richard Rosenfeld) writes:
> In article <C02yu3.GIF@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> jahern@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu writes:
>>I'm studying up for my Extra code exam, and got to wondering: Is the
>>exam multiple-choice or fill-in-the-blank? The FCC Rule Book says
>>the format is up to the VEs, but what is the norm? Does it depend
>>on whether the VE group is ARRL or W5YI, etc.? I'd think the 
>>multiple choice would be MUCH easier, no? Naturally, I plan to be
>>at the point where it won't make any difference, but it is helpful
>>to know what to expect when going into an exam.
>>
>>Finally, is 7 correct out of 10 passing or not? I thought it was, but
>>my SuperMorse program said I failed when I got 7 out of 10. [Yes,
>>I know the program is not the final judge, but I would have guessed
>>their criteria would be the same as "real exams".]
> 
>>
> 
> I have never seen a code exam given as multiple choice.  I have heard of it,
> but never actually been there to see it done.  I have done around 70 exams
> under W5YI (that I have been the contact for), and I have NEVER given a
> multiple choice code exam.  I have also done a few exams with the Laurel (MD)
> VEC, and all of theirs have been fill-in-the-blank.
> 
> My guess is that nearly every exam you go to will have a fill-in-the-blank
> code test.  7 out of 10 IS a passing score.
> 
> Scott  Good Luck  NF3I
> 


Both multiple-choice and fill-in-the-blank are sanctioned by W5YI and ARRL VECs.

The choice is left up to the administering VEs ... Which is more desirable makes
for an excellentaacademic discussion ... both are legal.

	73 >< Happy New Year
	   Carl <> K8NHE
From: phantom@pro-haven.cts.com (Tiffany Keller)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: License delays
Date: 21 Dec 1992 17:28:50 -0600
Organization: ProLine [pro-haven] - Pariahs' Haven BBS, 409/846-3177, 9600-300
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Look here.....

        I would *love* it if it only took two months to get my upgrade!!! 
As it is now, it has been almost three months, so you can keep your "back
when I got my upgrade.." stories!  I only Wish it took 2 months!  Sheesh!

        T. Keller
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From: jreese@NeoSoft.com (Jim Reese)
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 12:23:45 GMT

In article <1992Dec28.124128.24582@n8emr.cmhnet.org> gws@n8emr.cmhnet.org (Gary Sanders) writes:

>And if that was a public lake I would be pissed as well. I dont mind
>paying to rent the boat, but being to to stay clear of the lake
>is a little silly.

That's actually a perfect analogy.  Nobody can keep you from using the
public lake, but they can ask you not to use their boat.

>While I do see a reason to encourage user to pay for a system I do have
>problem with closed systems. If you do want a closed system dont
>put it up as a high profile system and take the freq for a majority of
>a state or region.

I've seen this arguement before.  The thing that bothers me is the assumption
that ALL closed systems are low usage systems and therefore not "worthy" of
a frequency.  This is simply not true.  While there are closed systems that
are low usage, there are others that stay keyed all the time.  If you dial
across the UHF band in Houston during the day, you'll usually hear activity
on only a couple of the many repeaters that are active.  My radio is closed,
but frequently is the only one talking.  I've got one of the most active
440 systems in town.  There are only one or two open systems that even 
approach the level of activity on my closed system.  I don't believe that
my system is "wasting" a frequency.

>Locally we are pretty lucky. Most sites are open systems,  open autopatches 
>and have good hand held coverage. They also have a reasonable number
>of paying members. New users and travlers are welcomed on almost all 
>the systems. While in SoCA I attempted to chat with folks on several 
>repeaters and was cold sholdered big time. There seems to be a lot 
>of repeater freq space used up but lille in actual use.

I think you'll find that that is the norm in most of the US.  There are a
few exceptions.  I don't try to "run off" any transient user who is travelling
through the area.  I will ask some questions, however, to determine if that
person is familiar with the radio system.  Most of the closed systems I am
familiar with don't get too upset if a traveler shows up on their system.

I find that hams are hams, no matter where you are.  Usually anyone who checks
in on my system has heard something interesting and wanted to put his 2 cents
in...I have no problem with that.


-- 
     Jim Reese, WD5IYT            | "Real Texans never refer to trouble
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From: RON@NSULA.EDU (Ron Wright - NSU Computer Center)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Looking for Alinco DJ-162 Mods
Date: 2 Jan 93 02:05:54 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

I've checked around and have been unable to find the extended rx and tx
mods for the Alinco DJ-162 HT.  If anyone can help it will be appreciated.

Thanks

Ron - KA5LUG

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From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 05:48:52 GMT

In article <1hm407INNqjn@network.ucsd.edu>, brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
> There have been repeaters in Southern California since before the ARRL
> even heard of them, so there's some long history here.  Traditionally, the
> 440 band is where the private systems exist, with the 10m, 6m, 2m, 220, and
> 1296 MHz bands tending more towards open systems.  It's not a lot
> different in other parts of the country.
> 
> The simple way to avoid being angered by this is to not buy a 440 radio
> until you're invited on one of the private systems.

Excuse Me ? "Invited" to use the spectrum. Where does the FCC say that ANY
Amateur has to be INVITED to transmit on a frequency? This kind of attitude
is a good part of What's wrong with ham radio today. Some people think they
have a god given right to a portion of the spectrum. It's theirs - they 
paid for it - an no one's going to take it away from them. Pure unadulterated
BULLSHIT.

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From: harp@bnr.ca (Alan Harp)
Subject: Re: P5
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Research Triangle Park, NC
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:56:34 GMT

In article <milewski-231292083607@fp2-st-affairs-3.uoregon.edu> milewski@oregon.uoregon.edu (Steve Milewski) writes:
>So far I've had no luck with Romeo's operation from P5 but DO have P51AA.
>Does anyone have any more information about the legitimacy of this
>operation? Also, is there a published address for the manager HA5BBE, if
>this IS a good operation?

>Thanks, 
>Steve/AA7FL
Everyone I have talked to says P51AA is not legit.  Sorry.  

Keep trying for P5RS7.  It's been real tough so far.  Only a couple
of the locals here have worked it.  Good luck.

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