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From: ee154fbk@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (MC)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music,alt.rave,alt.rap
Subject: Samplecell, DJ70 or Emax II, AkaiS1000 - which one !?!?!?!?!
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:48:39 GMT
Followup-To: poster

Hi everyone,
I have narrowed down my option for a sampler and would like to hear
from people's experiences and maybe even take some enlightening
advice from some tech-guru out there in netland.  I already have a
MacIIcx w/ MIDI interface, Mastertracks Pro and a MIDI keyboard.
Here are my options:

1/	Audiomedia II + Samplecell - Good to get an integrated
package with a kick-ass editor, Soundesigner II, and
direct-to-harddisk recording with digital outs for DAT backups.  The
only minus I have found with this setup is the few voices in
Samplecell, 16 and also no filters for those thick strings. I would
also have to get a CD-ROM drive to use the supplied disk that comes
with Samplecell.

2/	Roland DJ70 - Seems good to have all-in-one-box but only a
max of four megs RAM, no individual outs, no SCSI interface.  Seems
more like a toy at a high price and that scratch wheel is pretty
useless since it is sooooo slow, won't be doing any good scratches
with that thing.....

3/	Emax II, Akai S1000 - A decent rackmount would also do but
memory upgrades are expensive(I think!?!?!?).  I have Alchemy which
support these machines so editing wouldn't really be a problem.

BTW, I will mostly do beat oriented production such as hip-hop,
techno and house.  Any comments, suggestions or whatever would be
very appreciated...

Thanks,


ee154fbk@sdcc15.ucsd.edu
From: ivo@pyramid.unr.edu (Ian (Ivo) Veach)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: info on Midisoft Studio or other MIDI software???
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:43:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science

Hello.  I was wondering if anybody could give me feedback on Midisoft
Studio (for Windows), as I am currently thinking of purchasing it.  In
particular, I wanted something not neccessarily technical yet fully
functional (I want my cake and I'm gonna eat it too).  I want to be able
to use MIDI input, but also by mouse (putting a graphical note on a staff),
and preferably, to output that musical notation to a printer (laser or other).
Anyway, they don't have a demo, so I wondered if anybody could give me info
about Studio.

Any recommendations on Midisoft Studio or another MIDI interface package 
(within the budget of a mortal man) would be helpful.  Thanks!


Ivo                 :: "If Cyrano De Bergerac Fell pray to the blades of fifty
ivo@pyramid.unr.edu ::  men, With a heart and sword he'd drive them back
                    ::  Perchance to see Roxanne's eyes light up the sky again"
                    ::		- Blues Traveler (Sweet Pain)
From: mikelle@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Eddie Mikell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: WANTED Mirage or TX-7
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:38:34 GMT
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia

Greetings:

I'm looking to buy a Mirage or a Tx-7.

If you've got one in good condition, send me a note!

Thanks

Eddie Mikell
mikelle@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: davet@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Dave Tutelman)
Subject: Re: MIDI Songs.....
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs - Lincroft, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 23:43:13 GMT

In article <0105009A.fgq669@david.roth-music.com> david@roth-music.com (David A. Roth) writes:
>
>In article <1992Oct4.135833.29844@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> (rec.music.synth), davet@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Dave Tutelman) writes:
>> 
>> No harm, no foul!  In this case,
>>  - You did it first, so they can't sue you.
>
>This statement if very wrong.  You can sue anyone for anything!  You
>don't need a reason to file a law suit.  You will get your chance
>in court to argue but simply saying that someone "can't sue you" is
>a myth. 

	Whoops!  You're absolutely right.  I meant to say, they can't
	WIN a suit against you.  And before you point it out, yes they
	can if your lawyer is incompetent, their lawyer is super-clever
	sleaze, the judge/jury have something against you, etc.  But,
	all other things being reasonable, they won't win.  And I'll
	still stand on the rest of my statement about what the law says
	about the situation.

	Thanks for the correction.

Dave
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: krothman@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ken Rothman)
Subject: for sale: moog and guitar stuff
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:21:03 GMT


F O R  S A L E:

Music Stuff:

moog Prodigy.
yes, this is a real moog and it makes neat-o moogy noises.
astound your friends by playing the cool keyboard part from "tom sawyer."

$125 obo


Fender Gemini III
Acoustic Guitar
This is your basic dreadnought size guitar with gig bag.
And guess what... its BLACK.  That means it looks very cool.

$100 obo


Marshall Drivemaster
Good distortion pedal
I have a Marshall amp, so i have no real use for this anymore.

$80 obo


I feel these are reasonable prices, but make an offer.

Ken


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From: aedwards@JUPITER.CSD.UNB.CA (Alan Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Mac Audio
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:16:48 GMT
Comments: Gated by NETNEWS@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

This may not be the place to ask this, but I am sure that someone here
can give me a quick answer.

I want to send some music to a filmmaker who is on the net and has a
Mac. I have a mac IIci available here, and was wondering if there is
an easy way to get stereo sound from a cassette into a mac file. It
does not have to be great quality, 22KHz will do for now. It is just
for us to pass ideas back and forth.
He has sent me Sound Edit files and a player, and it seems to work
fine. I just need to know what people recommend I get for the ci.

Thanks

Alan

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  UNB Physics                              internet:    aedwards@unb.ca
    Canada
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From: kimple@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers,alt.emusic
Subject: Re: Copyrights
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:33:44 -0600
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <12OCT199208305832@flute.ccit.arizona.edu>, doug@flute.ccit.arizona.edu (Doug Wellington) writes:
> OK, since it got brought up, how does ASCAP/BMI determine how
> to pay each of its artists?  In other words, if I write one little
> song and have it registered with BMI, does that mean that I get
> a certain fee each year, whether or not anyone plays my song on
> a radio or in a bar?  To extrapolate, say I write 50 little songs
> and register them - do I get 50 times that fee?
> 
> Seems like I could make a lot of money from that situation, albeit
> a little unscrupulous...
> 
> Enquiring minds want to know...
> -Doug


BMI determines royalties by periodically having stations fill out music logs 
for sample periods fo time - kinda llike the TV ratings thing they have you
fill out at home. Also, they keep an eye on what is being reported to Radio
& Records, College Music Jounal, Billboard, etc. So, just 'cause a song is
registered, you won't get any royalties unless it is actually played on the
air.

Our station does not do much with ASCAP, so I do not know how they determine
royalties.

I don't know how theyh distribute royalties from bars/clubs, but i do know that
the clubs are required to register with one of the two, and pay a certain
yearly fee. 

jd
From: eirikur@ranger.enet.dec.com (Eirikur Hallgrimsson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Opinions on Crumar Roadrunner/2 electric piano?
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:12:33 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <48579@shamash.cdc.com>, ats@udev.cdc.com (alex t stagg x4718) writes...
>All I remember back in the seventies was ... maybe an organ? No,
>this isn't that. It says Roadrunner/2 and it has four voice
>switches (piano 1-3 and bass) on the panel to the left of the
>five octave keyboard (F to F!). Gee, maybe this thing is historic
>or something. It seems to be built to survive a war so maybe

These were made in Italy, and sold by Crumar, Univox, and probably others
(Sound City in the UK, I think).

It is a simple non-velocity keyboard.  It is just a divider-architecture organ
(my Univox had the Mostek 5024(?) top-octave chip), with a simple
capacitor/diode (I forget, there may have been a transistor) envelope/gate
system.  The sound is simply the square waves off the dividers, filtered by the
board with the switches on it.  You've got a deluxe model there, with the
chorus.  It actually sounded pretty nice as I recall, but I like analog piano
sounds.

Hacks for these units: You can make it an organ by making a bus that is
connected to each gate electrolytic capacitor by a diode.  If you connect this
bus to the power supply, you get an organ envelope instead.  If you disconnect
it, you go back to piano.

A much easier and more worthwhile hack is "fake reverb."  The sustain pedal
input expects a simple switch, but if you plug in a potentiometer instead (I
built  it in) you can get a sustain control for the envelopes.  This works
great.


Eirikur Hallgrimsson   |    "Rhodes?  Where we're going, we don't need Rhodes!"
eh@ranger.enet.dec.com |
PATHWORKS for Macintosh|
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: mpdavis@unccsun.uncc.edu (Michael Parker Davis)
Subject: unfortunately I must ask this!
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:14:06 GMT

Is there anybody out there?  A simple yes would do nicely.

No, I am not smashing TV's, I think our postnews is gloriously full featured
again.   Well, is it?
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: tonim@mits.mdata.fi (Toni Miettinen)
Subject: Re: ARP INFORMATION NEEDED
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:21:46 GMT

In article <gP17RB1w165w@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca> markp@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Mark A. Pitcher) writes:
>
>	I have the opportunity to purchase an ARP ODYSSEY (pre 1980), but
>can't find any information about it. 
>
>	How much would this be worth?
>	
>	What features does it have? # of oscillators, etc.
>
>	CV?
>
>	What does it sound like? Is if "fat" enough for basslines?
>
>	How controllable is it?
>
>	I know absolutely nothing about this synth, and can't
>find anything on it. I don't even know what it looks like. Any
>info on it would be appreciated.
>
>
>	Thanks.....

 The following text was taken from "The Whole Synthesizer Guide":

 "The Odyssey synthesizer features a 3-octave monophonic keyboard.
  Left-hand controls are ARP's PPC (proportional pitch control) system,
  pressure-sensitive pads that bend pitch positively or negatively, and
  introduce vibrato. Two VCOs, an LFO, and a VC low-pass filter are
  supplied. A high-pass filter is included to remove low harmonics
  from sounds. The filter can controlled from an ADSR envelope generator,
  and the VCA is controlled from an AR envelope generator. Sample & hold,
  a ring modulator, and a noise generator are provided.
  First released in 1972. No longer manufactured. Last list price:
  1.700 USD."

 Hopefully this helps you.
--
 Toni Miettinen - tonim@mits.mdata.fi
From: JROSSI@EAGLE.AAMRL.WPAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Ensoniq DP/4 questions
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:44:00 GMT


Would somebody who owns one and uses it in a studio please tell me how quiet
is the quiet of a DP/4.  It seems like the perfect thing to hang off a
K2000r (and everywhere else in a studio).  I refuse to buy another effects
processor which is noisier than the quiescent output of all my synths at
0 dB.  I have had a hard time telling exactly how noisy a DP/4 is by
listening to one at Ace.  Judging bu the effects in my EPS-16+, I would have
to assume that the effects themselves are at least very good.  Noise is the
only thing I have a problem with.

John
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: mayer@hplnpm1.hpl.hp.com (Niels P. Mayer)
Subject: Re: SY99 song record MIDI transmissions
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:49:16 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Labs, Media Technology Lab, Palo Alto, CA.

>    I was wondering if anyone out there with a SY99 could give me a hand.  I
> have a sampler on which i set up lets say 16 different keyboards (voices) on,
> each one receiving on a different (1-16) MIDI channels.  Now, in song play
> mode, I have each track transmiting to a different MIDI channel as well, but
> that only seems to apply in song play mode, not record. What I have done is
> turned my Master Control selection to 0 and then when I want to Song Record on a
> specific MIDI channel, I press down shift+MIDIchannel# switching me to the
> desired voice on the sampler.  Is there any easier way of doing this?  I'm sure
> there is, but I am having a hell of a time doing so.  Of course (he says with a
> sheepish grin) I am relatively new to this.......

I'm not necessarily sure I understand your description correctly,  but if
it's what I think it is, you might try the following:

(1) assume: 16 patches on 16 difft MIDI channels on the sampler.
(1.5) Sampler set up in multi-receive mode s.t. ea. patch corresponds to a
	MIDI channel.
(2) assume: SY99 similar to SY77 (which is what i have).
(3) assume: my memory is working correctly, since I don't currently have this
	    setup to test with. (I did last weekend).
(4) On SY99 do
	Utility-->MIDI-->ChannelSet-->Enter :: "Kbd Transmit Channel" == <XXX>
	Set <XXX> to the desired chnl to record on.
	Put it into Song-->Record mode, select track (btns 1-16), where
		such that <XXX>==<selected track>
	Hit play
	<play keyboard>
	...

And if I misinterpreted what you meant, then "never mind"...

--
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                     Collaborative Multimedia Project
		       Hewlett-Packard Laboratories
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Original_To:  BITNET%"SYNTH-L@AUVM.BITNET"
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:40:00 CDT
From:         Z3CBN@TTACS.BITNET
Subject:      *** JEFF HOUSE *** OTHERS SKIP PLEASE

My Name is Cliff Nelson
I am a student at Texas Tech University in Lubbock Texas.
I am very interested in your Roland.
could you please send more info
(hrs of use, repairs or upgrades etc.)
to E-mail addr. of fax to
806-791-4350

I hope we can strike a deal!!!
Cliff
From: saloranta@ncsott01.tele.nokia.fi (Jari Saloranta)
Subject: Re: Source for effects patches (se-50, dsp128, generic)?
Summary: Where?
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 12:20:13 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.190903.8150@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> summeral@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SUMMERALL  ELMINA LANIER) writes:
>From: summeral@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SUMMERALL  ELMINA LANIER)
>Subject: Source for effects patches (se-50, dsp128, generic)?
>Summary: Where?
>Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:09:03 GMT
>There seem to be a lot of synth patches around, but what about favorite effects
>patches?  I'm specifically interested in vocal and guitar patches for a Boss
>SE-50 or a digitech dsp-128, but it seems like so many processors have similar
>parameters for similar programs that even generic patches would do.  Is there
>an ftp site that had any of these, or a BBS?
>
>Thanks in advance,
>
>Thomas Summerall

Me and my A3 (KORG) would like to have some new patches too.

Jari Saloranta
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From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: anyone familiar with Dick Hyman Moog albums?
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:50:20 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <2AD3579E.26877@news.service.uci.edu> dan@cafws2.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes:
>In article <1507@bbx.basis.com> scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) writes:
>>In article <41050178@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> brooksp@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Peter Brooks) writes:
>>>I believe there was an earlier one, called simply enough, "Moog".
>>>
>>>A couple of track names:
>>>
>>>  The Topless Dancers of Corfu.
>>>  Tap-dance through the memory banks.
>>   The Minotaur
>>   The Legend of Johnny Pot
>>   ...and that pleasant last track whose name I don't recall
>	Didn't he also do a track called "The Moog and Me", that's in the
>soundtrack of "Mask"?

Yes.  It had a whistle as its main lead.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
From: arman@frog.CRDS.COM (bedrock)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Wavestation klutz appeals for help!
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:37:04 GMT
Organization: Charles River Data Systems

In article <100760033@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com> dan@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Dan Bennett) writes:
>Hi Wavers,
>
>I wuz playin' my WS-1 with my brain switched off yesterday evening, and I
>pushed a couple of buttons that I shouldn't have, and succeeded in overwriting
>ALL the info in RAM1 with the contents of ROM. Oops.
>
 Your not the first. I've been looking for a system (including my dealer)
 who hasn't written over un-protected RAMx for a few weeks. No luck yet.

>So question 1:
>
>  Is there a magic hold-this-button-down-while-switching-on operation which
>  restores the factory presets? There is on some kit I've heard of. I don't
>  fancy a trial & error approach in case I hit one which wipes the lot!
>
 
 I have a WAVE/AD and there is a special menu you can get to , but it 
 doesn't reset factory defaults. 

>And question 2:
>
>  Or can anyone provide me a sysex dump of the factory-preset contents of
>  RAM1? I suppose a uuencoded version via email would be what I want, or
>  an Atari-format disk (though I've got no software for squirting it out,
>  as far as I know).
>

 If I had them I would be happy to. If I get them I will. If you get them
 can you ? Actually if some kind Wavestation owner could post or send me
 RAM1 - RAM3 I would be happy to make them available to anyone who has the
 same misfortune.



>Dan Bennett.


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Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: valaris@swifty.dap.CSIRO.AU (Andrew Valaris)
Subject: Re: Need cheap master kybd: Roland A-30 good?
Organization: CSIRO, Division of Applied Physics, Sydney
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 05:59:06 GMT

In article <=j7-Af_@engin.umich.edu> David Cortright <davidc@engin.umich.edu> writes:
>I've heard great things about the Yamaha KX-88.  You can get a used one
>for fairly cheap.
>
>And though I haven't tried out many of the newer keyboards, my favorite
>was always the Kurzweil MIDIBoard.  It had the BEST feel IMO.  It listed
>for about $2500 if I remeber correctly.

As I recall the midiboard had a very bouncy feel to it - did they fix this
in later updates ( I think they were updated ), correct me if I'm wrong, but
it was nothing like a piano.

Now that I think of it, maybe its the best compromise between the piano action
and the light synth type keyboard, now where is that broschure.........



Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: brooke@noao.edu (Brooke Gregory)
Subject: Synth for improvising/composing?
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:51:38 GMT


I am looking for advise on the purchase of a synth. Let me describe my needs
and ask if anyone has recommendations or comments on whether something which
might meet might those needs exists.

I am a so-so, classically trained, pianist/hacker. I have a midi sequencer on
a PC and would like to get a midi synth which would permit me to practise
improvising and also "compose" music. I figure the minimum I need (and price
is a consideration) is something which has the following features:

	-multitimbral
	-velocity  sensitive keyboard (and midi control of volume, independent
for each channel, at least)
	-basic instrument sounds (I'm less interested in the synthesis of
new sounds than in using the synth as a improvising, composing tool).
	-a number of channels, voices, polyphony that would enable me
to emulate at least a piano trio or jazz quartet with drums.

Unfortunately, I live outside the US and far from access to a well stocked
midi-hardware storeroom. I know I should shop by trying things out but
that may be a luxury I will have to forgo. 

You may respond directly by e-mail if you prefer.

Thanks,

Brooke Gregory
bgregory@noao.edu
From: system@cyberden.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: QUESTION: Sound Tools DATa backup-Has anyone...
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 23:06:44 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Has any 3rd party made a program that will back up normal data through
the Sound Accellerator card to your DAT machine? I mean, hell, you can
back up sound files and all, and DATa write header stripes, why can't you
write any file?

It seems that all the workings of a HD backup system is there for all data,
yet no one has written anything yet.

...or have they?

<X>orcist

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From: gints@prophet.esd.sgi.com (Gints Klimanis)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: This is my last message to r.m.s.
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:00:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: odin.1992Oct16.200047.18541
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

How were his net priveleges revoked?  How does this happen?

I Neeed to know.

Gints