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From: rg@kunikpok.UUCP (R.G. Keen)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Filters for 55 G - Suggestions?
Date: 4 Jan 93 04:10:59 GMT
Organization: Kunikpok Kennels and Komputers (Pet Project)

I'm going to acquire and set up a 55 in the next couple of months or so, 
now that I have my 29 running on a fairly even keel. I have consulted - 
well, pestered - everyone I know and read everything I could get my hands 
on, and I think that a reasonable setup is with UG driven by two 
powerheads, airstone aeration, and a cannister, possibly an Eheim or 
Fluval, running in tandem. The idea is that with two filter systems 
running, I have some additional capacity and a different mechanism if 
something should go nonlinear with one of them. Two questions - 
(a) does this make sense?
(b) any suggestions on alternates or hints and tips in this kind of 
setup?

There is a third question. I saw a book entitled "Tank Busters" in my 
local book emporium, the focus being LARGE tanks to keep specimens of 
LARGE or unusual/gruesome species. The book made much of a filter they 
called a "rapid sand filter" which consisted of a second tank, comparable 
to the main tank's size or slightly smaller, that had a series of 
compartments driven by succeeding overflows; first wool media, then 
coarse sand, and successively finer sand in each compartment. As usual, 
grandiose claims for effectiveness. Is this thing  - ahem - all wet?

R.G.
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: maz@Turing.ORG (Michael A. Zang)
Subject: Re: Advice about adding a Black Ghost
Organization: The Turing Project, Public Access Internet Host
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:39:32 GMT


	Ghosts are fine in community tanks but will eat the neons. They
won't eat any good sized molly or tetra. You do need a lot of cover, they
are nocturnal. If you keep the stress down in the tank you can keep a ghost
for years, mine's over 6 years old now. 
	Just a personal oppinion, get rid of the mollies before they get 
ick or some similar disease.

						Mike
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From: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Subject: Re: Recommendation on cold water fish
Reply-To: jessop@ljohub.enet.dec.com (Class Dinosauria)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 22:16:00 GMT


>A couple pairs of White Clouds are excellent choice for a 2.5 gallon tank. 
>The other good candidates are a pair of Fundulopanchax Gardneri, or
>a pair of Cynolebias Whitei, both are very hardy killifish.

Why are white clouds an "excellent" choice?

Yes, I overlooked killifish, one or two killis would also be a decent
choice...

Mike
From: dbp0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DENNIS B. PRICE)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Macquarium \*
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:09:18 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


 First, I must credit the appropriate sources....

      The Original Macquarium was designed by Andy Inhatko (of MacUser column
      fame), although I had the same idea at about the same time as he... I
      simply don't have a column that forced the realization of it...
      Anyway, his Macquarium treatise was very funny, and many of the
      suggestions helped with *my* version, so kudos to Andy.

      For those of you who do *not* know what I am talking about, and might be
      so inclined to make a useful abode for our fishy friends from a
      discarded Mac Plus shell, contact Andy on the Internet at
      andy@world.std.com or ZiffNet/Mac as 72511,204 or America Online as
      andyi.  The instructions are free (but copyrighted).

 My aquarium turned out to hold 2.3 gallons (plus rocks).  I use a small
 Penn-Plax cartridge filter, and one small air stone.  I have three White
 Clouds and had  :-(  a Khuli Loach - actually two, the original, and a
 replacement, both died.  I took a small teraium heater (external) and places
 it a few inches below the tank (there's an air space) to keep it 70-75
 degrees F when the building is closed (nights/weekends) ,and don't use the
 heater during working hours when teh heats cranked up to 75 anyway.
 This seems ok, but I'm afraid the temp fluctuates too muc hfor the Khuli
 loach who is a bottom feeder.

 Q - does anyone know of a good *small* (and I mean s-m-a-l-l) aquarium
 heater?  the smallest I've seen is the test-tube looking kind, and is 6" long
 and sticks up out of the tank.  Two problems:  I have NO clearance above the
 tank (the Mac shell) and not much room in the water for that matter.  What I
 would have to have is a self-contained tube-type no more than 3-4" long and
 ideally about a half-inch in diameter... with thermostat, of course.

 Thanks.

 Brad Price
From: cowan@cerianthus.pinetree.org (Darin Cowan)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: High nitrates [M][FILTRATION]
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 16:35:09 GMT
Organization: The Aquarium, Ottawa, Ontario

dominick@protocol.zycad.com (Dom Paniscotti) writes:

> |> First, change as much of the water as you can.  Changing 20% only reduces 
> |> nitrate by 20%.  Change 99% if you can.
> |> 
> I hope you're kidding about the 99% change.  I wouldn't go any further than
> 50% (and that's if you're really in trouble).  Changing 25% every other day
> for about a week will drop your nitrates significantly given that the water 
> you're adding has 0 ppm nitates. Once you're nitrates drop, 10% changes 
> weekly should keep it down. 
> 
> I just didn't want any novices doing 99% water changes, and then wondering wh
> all their fish/inverts were dead within a week do their biological filter
> bed going south :-).

I changed 90+% of the water in my established tank without a problem.  I made
the assumption that the person's high nitrates were in an established tank.
I suppose that assumption may not have been valid.

In any case that's what the dealer said, that's what I did, and it worked fine.



Darin Cowan - cowan@cerianthus.pinetree.org 

Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: jkell@utkvx3.utk.edu (Kell, Jeffrey R)
Subject: (F)(M) Filter questions
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:09:00 GMT

(1) I have an AquaClear 150 that came with a used 20-gallon tank (yard sale)
which I discovered was missing the pin in the motor assembly upon which the
magnet/impeller spins.  In the parts breakdown for the AquaClear series of
filters, this pin is not a separate part, but part of the "drive motor".
The motor is the same on the Mini on up (except the 500) and only differ in
the impeller.  Is there any way to fix this cheaply, or should I just junk
it? (New 150's are < $20 mail order).

(2) Does anyone know where to get parts for old Sacem cannister filters?
I have one on a 55G that has a broken clip and an occasionally leaky 
impeller seal.

(3) Anyone have opinions on Ginger filter media (ie, is theirs really better
than the filter manufacturer's media?)  Their AquaClear-compatible ones are
certainly cheaper than the AquaClear cartridges.

/Jeff/   jkell@utkvx.utk.edu
From: pst@cisco.com (Paul Traina)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: [M] RUGF filtration: how much is too much?
Date: 3 Jan 1993 20:14:39 GMT
Organization: cisco Systems, Menlo Park, California, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cider.cisco.com
Summary: should I use penguin 660's or 1140's on my 30 gal tank?
Keywords: rugf, penguin, undergravel, filtration

I'm converting my 30 gal (tall) marine tank from a UGF + Aquaclear 200
+ protine skimmer to a RUGF + a magnum 402 for surface agitation +
a piccolo protine skimmer system.

I have two lift tubes, and I believe the surface area at the bottom of
the tank is equivelant to a 20L (30"X12").  I'm about to place the
order for two reverse-flow power heads, and I am contemplating two
Penguin 660R's (175gph) or two Penguin 1140 (300gph) powerheads.

I believe that the 660's should be more than adequate, and I'm
concerned that if I bought the 1140's, the noise and current flow, and
back pressure would be obnoxious (I have visions of coral levitating).

Comments?
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: jimh@ultra.com (Jim Hurley)
Subject: Re: Book review : Zupanc's Fish and Their Behavior
Keywords: zupanc, book review, fish, behaviour
Organization: Ultra Network Technologies
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 21:57:33 GMT

In <C0349K.4FG@newsflash.concordia.ca> rclark@alcor.concordia.ca (Richard Clark) writes:

[review deleted]

-->  I highly recommend this book.

-->-- 
-->rick clark (rclark@alcor.concordia.ca) | My signature graduated  
-->           (CIS 70272,3270)            | before me.

This is a great book, it really helps us understand fish behavior
and gives us an inkling of why WE may behave the way we do - that
is, since we evolved from the ocean, perhaps some of that old
behaviorisms still remain in us.

I recommend it as well.
-- 
Jim Hurley --> jimh@ultra.com  ...!ames!ultra!jimh  (408) 922-0100
Ultra Network Technologies / 101 Daggett Drive / San Jose CA 95134
From: mdkj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: Pleco food
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:26:31 EST
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <31309@nntp_server.ems.cdc.com>,
ghart@ems.cdc.com (Geoffrey Hart) writes: 
> I've fed mine cooked zuchini, frozen peas and tabimin, and the plecos like
> the zuchini the best (I'd slice it up, freeze it, then nuke about three
> slices twice a week).  Currently, I'm trying canned spinach (Popeye brand
> :-).  My whiptails seem to like it, but I haven't seen my other plecos
> really go after it (my bristle nose is mostly active at night, and my
> chinese butterflies seem to stay on the glass exclusively).  Also, my
> chinese algae eaters like it, and my bronze corys *love* it (that
> surprised me :-). I'm going to try the daily spinach, with a tabimin,
> and maybe a weekly zuchini supplement (the spinach is much easier to deal
> with, just open a can, put it in a resealable container in the frige, and
> put in a good size pinch daily.  It sinks to where my corys and whiptails
> can find it.  Snails like it too).
> 
> I also want to try some new "algae wafers" (something like that) I heard
> about at the pet shop the other day.

Why do you cook/zap the zuchini?  I have been feeding my two panaque plecos
fresh zuchini every day for over a year, and they are doing great.  In fact,
it's even easier than canned spinach: cut off a slice, put on the lead weight,
drop it in... remove after 24 hours, that's it :-)
This pleco dinner discussion is interesting, I'm going to try some of those
foods on mine too (some variety in the diet can't hurt).  I like the sinking
string beans idea.  However, I'm not convinced by the cucumber.  I tried it
once (after all it looks like zuchini...), but it spoils quickly once in the
water. 

John Opsomer
From: dbp0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DENNIS B. PRICE)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Macquarium \* P.S.
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:19:27 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


 I may have posted Andy Inhatko's internet address.
 The correct address is   andyi@world.std.com

 Sorry.
 Brad
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From: rbennet1@neumann.une.edu.au (Robert Bennetts.)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: [M] Some Reef questions...
Date: 30 Dec 92 06:47:44 GMT
Followup-To: poster


	 Hi all...

	I have two questions for all you fishy experts out there...

1:
	Has any one got any DIY Wavemaker/Tidal surge simulator type of thing plans, for making a timed powerhead/pump switching mechanism.
	I will be using 240v, but I'm sure I could get the general idea from a 110v machine.
	Any plans or ideas would be greatfully received...

2:
	What size pump is generally suggested for wet/dry filter systems?
	Is there a genral rule such as a certain number of tankfuls per hour, or something like that.
	I currently have a 3 foot aqaurium and am hoping maybe to get something larger later (maybe 6 foot) should I buy a larger pump now to accomodate my later wants, or is too much water flow not good (I can't see why it might be)?

	Thanks for any help with either of these questions...


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From: pete@introl.com (Pete Ikusz)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Re: [F] a few questions...
Date: 21 Dec 92 15:53:29 GMT
Organization: Introl Corp.
NNTP-Posting-Host: introl.introl.com

In article <1gvlioINN499@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> jwjohn@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jerry W. Johnson) writes:
>
>(2) Also, I've a Fluval 403 running the RUGF in a 30 gallon FW, (yes, 
>sometimes I too wonder how the gravel stays in the tank, I got a good
>deal on a used one explains the overkill). Anyway, I've no experience
>with a cannister. I've got ceramic "noodles" in the bottom, the foam block
>in the top, and a combination of carbon, ammonia & de-nitrate in the middle 
>chamber. The middle chamber is what concerns me. Am I using a sound
>combination, and just how full/packed should the middle chamber be? 

People in the aquarium maintenance business that I know and have spoken
with recommend setting up the canister filter in the following method:

Sponge / floss at the bottom
sponge in the middle
ceramic rings at the top

The first two stages are purely for mechanical filtration. Sponges
get rotated, and one gets cleaned at a time. This is to keep the junk
out of the bio filter stage. The bio stage never gets touched.

They also have said that there is rarely a need for using chemical
filtration in a tank. I have seen the tanks that they have kept
and all were in exceptional shape.

They also contend that the noodles were put at the lowest level to act as a
coarse mechanical filtering stage. However, they act more as a bio filtering stage.
And that bio filtering should be done after mechanical filtering has been
done. (IE: there is no reason to put them there. It only makes cleaning
more difficult.)

If I go by what I see, then their methodology looks 100% correct, at least all
their fish seem happy. (I have seen 10 out of the 60 different tanks that they
care for.)

Any netters have different or similar opinions?

-Pete
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From: bmoss@ejv.com (Brian Moss)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Dead Pleco!!!
Date: 28 Dec 92 16:15:15 GMT
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To all experienced fishkeepers.

I have a dead Pleco and i am deeply saddened and concerned.  Why did he die?

I have 20 gal FW tank with 6 neon tetras and 2 blue danios.  The Ammonia levels were near zero and the PH was 6.8. I have had the tank for about 4 mo and the Pleco for about 2 mo.  The tank has cycled, and i perform 20 % water changes every other week.  I have never had a Pleco die i thought that they were the heartiest fish around.  Whats wrong???

Was the PH to low???

Help,

Brian "bmoss@ejv.com"
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Steve Pierce)
Subject: FAQ posts
Organization: We don't need no stinkin' batches!
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 14:38:26 GMT

The FAQ is posted once again.  I request that rec.nuders review it for
incorrect or missing information (I seem to be down to correcting spelling and
adding new BBS info).  The FAQ is for the readers, news AND old, so please
help.

Yours naturally,
   Steve

PS The road to Playalinda is now scheduled to be completed in May -- nearly
   3 years from the start of re-construction!!

PSS  HAPPY NUDE YEAR TO ONE AND ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: ab016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Front male nudity in movies (my $.02)
Date: 27 Dec 1992 12:41:57 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ab016@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu




I was watching the video tape of Porkys a few years back, and paused it to
go get something to eat (No pun).  We have a 4-head VCR, and when I paused
it, you could see as plain as day, a male penis on the screen.  It was the
sceen where they were running from the house, after the big guy with the
axe came out (Then Pee Wee went running nude down the street).  You have to
have a very fast eye to catch it running at normal speed, but they really
*were* nude in the movie, and it shows.

Also, in Porkys III, the older KKK men at the end, (after the have been
shaved) that are walking around nude at he pep-rally are showing frontal
nudity, I dont know if it is real or not, but there is *something* dangling
there.  Personaly, I dont think that it was real, (NO FLAMES PLEASE!!)
because the men playing the parts, appeared to be in their fifties.  I just
couldnt imagine 50 year old men, letting it all hang out for a teeny bopper
movie.


Just my $.02

Scotty
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From: williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: thinking about sex (was Re: nudity & sex, young and old)
Date: 30 Dec 1992 18:24:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Reply-To: williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums)
NNTP-Posting-Host: athena

In article <1hnno0INNlvf@network.ucsd.edu> middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:
>Try spending the Solstice Holidays with my sisters.  I can guarantee you
>you`ll go for a whole week thinking of nothing but escaping, sex will 
>never enter your mind.  And if you see my sisters naked you'll stop
>thinking about sex for a LONG time.  That would most certainly end the
>nudity=sex argument.
---
	Now maybe we are getting somewhere in the sex<!|=>=nudity debate!  It
appears there is now evidence of familial influence during formative
years!?  

	Maybe it is a nature vs. nurture topic, with nature going one way,
and nurture the other?  

-wat-
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and the world will follow our lead into the future.
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From: bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Date: 22 Dec 92 08:26:52 GMT
Subject: Re: Nudist TV segment
Organization: Princeton University
X-Subliminal-Message: You can quit reading news anytime you want.

In article <1992Dec22.015544.23540@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> barlow@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Rebel) writes:
|In <ll44502@pro-harold.cts.com> leed@pro-harold.cts.com (Lee Dronick) writes:
|>ever seen is rear views. Cable stations such as HBO have shown frontal male
|>nudity.
|
|Wow....now I am curious...what movie did they show that has frontal male
|nudity? Personally I have never seen this on HBO or in the movies that I can
|remember. I think I would remember if I can see it because I am always the one
|after a movie who complains that the woman was in umpteen trillon full frontal
|nude shots but that the men NEVER are...which seems to me to be very sexist,
|not to mention what it says about the acceptability of the male body. I
|personally don't understand the prohibition against male nudity....it seems to
|me that either you're against nudity all together or that you are for it all
|together...what's with the double standard? *perhaps I am naive :-)*
|
|Jen
|

back in the days I used to watch TV, I remember that late at night all the
cable movie channels (Showtime, Cinemax, HBO, &c) would often show "sex"
movies, soft-core porn-ish things, and I'm sure male nudity must havei
come up many times in the process.

ben


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From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Nudist TV segment
Date: 28 Dec 1992 20:56:13 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu

In article <ljkmd8INNa5l@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> falk@peregrine.Sun.COM (Ed Falk) writes:
>I saw Deer Hunter uncut on commercial broadcast TV about ten years
>ago.  I should have written to the station and congratulated them on
>their bravery.

I'll second this idea.  What T.V. executives are willing to show is based
on what they think the market will handle.  You can be assured that when
they show the slightest hint of nudity they will get complaints from the
offended few.  They need to also get congratulations from the rest of us
so as to offset the complaints.  Furthermore, I think we should complain
when nudity is a natural part of a broadcast but they hide it with those
computerized fuzzy squares or they cut it from a film.  Remember, they are
just guessing as to what people want, it is our letters and phone calls that
let them know whether they guessed right or wrong.

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From: hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Nudist TV segment
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:32:09
Organization: Computing and Telecommunications Services, UCSC
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In-reply-to: leed@pro-harold.cts.com's message of 22 Dec 92 18:19:26 GMT

In article <lm37205@pro-harold.cts.com>, leed@pro-harold.cts.com (Lee Dronick) writes:
) In the biagraphy of Jim Morrison, "The Doors", there was frontal male
	 biography
) nudity showing the penis several times, although they were brief shots.

Well, what I heard was that the actor who played Jim (I forget who it
was at the moment) wouldn't do nude scenes or sex scenes, so they used
a body double.  It was very cleverly done, but you notice they avoid
showing the face during those scenes!

Apparently the actor is a fundamentalist Christian and refused on
religious ("moral") grounds.  Why he would even play the part of Jim
Morrison, if he believes that way, is beyond me..  I guess money
talks.
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From: rford@pro-harold.cts.com (Richard Ford)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Nudist TV segment
Date: 22 Dec 92 04:41:45 GMT
Organization: The Harold Network -- An Alliance For Creative Communication

The amazing and ironic part of this is that although American television
does not allow the display of breasts and genitals for standard programs,
it does not stop the National Geographic from showing them.  At least the
National Geographic gets fair treatment, now we have to work on getting it
for everything else.
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