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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #299
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:50:36 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Thu, 17 Dec 92       Volume 10 : Issue 299

Today's Topics:

      [*] CarolStack.sit.hqx
      [*] Investment Tracker 1.0
      [*] Maelstrom 1.03 Update
      [*] risk-ii.hqx
      [*] Thunder7 1.5.2 Patch Kit
      [*] tidbits-131-to-140.hqx
      [*] tidbits-141-to-150.hqx
      (A) Star Trek / After Dark
      (Q) music editor wanted
      (Q) PB160 and Mirror Removable HD?
      Amiga to Mac file conversion
      AppleTalk version 58 (Q)
      A Question regarding Monitor Resolutions
      Buy pb180 now, or wait for Febuary pb's?
      coax card connection & SNAps 3270/3287
      Creators and Types
      decoding a QuickMail enclosed file
      DeskWriter v. StyleWriter (review)
      Driver for HP Deskjet 550 C (A)
      File Copying and Trash--What's the Connection?
      Graphics package
      History was made today...
      IGOR and curve fitting pKa
      IIvx vs. IIvi
      ImageWriter II and background printing???
      Mac Help Desk TV Commercial
      MacInTax at Price Club
      MacWrite 5.0
      More on DeskWriter v. StyleWriter
      MSDOS Equivalent Software
      Need info about ordering Lapis PDS30 series
      Noisy PB100 drive
      OmegaSANE ResEdit patch in 7.1...
      patching OmegaSANE routines into 7.1
      PPC Toolbox - What is it?
      PPP for the MAC
      program to do screen snapshot wanted
      Quadra 950 on Ethernet
      Quadra limitation ?
      Random-dot-stereoautograms [SIT! vs SITD]  (Q)
      Replacing mouse switches.
      SCSIspec
      season's greetings (A)
      SendPS and System 7.1 (Q)
      Speedometer 3.1 records
      SpeedyFinder and Labels (R)
      StuffIt Deluxe 3.0.3 Problems?
      StyleWriter v. DeskWriter (some [more] questions answered)
      Stylewriter vs. Deskwriter
      StyleWriter vs. DeskWriter (ad. infinitum)
      Subject- Mac IIsi and Sound
      Sys 7 Printing!!!
      The fifteen minute battery (A)
      The Logitech 3-button mouse for the Mac
      The Taxman Cometh
      Translation softwares (mac - Apple IIe, MS-DOS, Windows, SUN)
      Update for QuarkXPress 3.1
      Utilities
      Version Control: Revisionist - Voodoo
      Wanted: Ren & Stimpy sounds

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 01:07:40 -0800
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: [*] CarolStack.sit.hqx

Here is the traditional Christmas submission of the frivolous Carol Stack.
This stack has 13 songs and 17 sounds.  It also has all the needed externals
so that it works right.  I have added a button for recording a new sound
directly into the stack too.

This is low on interface and art, but high on obnoxious fun possibilities.
My personal favorite is Silent Night played with the Power Chord guitar
sound.  Annoy your neighbors!

This spawned the much more pleasant Christmas Carol stack that Murph
uploaded.

Jon

[Archived as /info-mac/card/carol.hqx; 320K]

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 13:33:18 EST
From: Larry Wink <FDMWINK@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: [*] Investment Tracker 1.0

This is the bug-fixed version of Investment Tracker and should replace the
original submission archived as /info-mac/card/investment-tracker-10.hqx.

"Investment Tracker" is a HyperCard 2.1 Stack that can be used to track
investments in stocks, mutual funds, or anything else that issues shares for
which a price quote is available.  The information for each investment is
stored on a single card of the stack which contains the buttons for entering
and manipulating data and calculating various interesting things about the
investment.  It is particularly valuable for tracking investments in which you
are making periodic investments (Dollar Cost Averaging, Dividend Reinvestment
Plans) or withdraws.

-- Features --
- Records date and dollar amount of transaction and price per share for
  purchases, dividends or sales (partial or total).  These records can be
  displayed and edited at any time.

- Calculates total shares held in each stock or mutual fund.

- Calculates total dollar amount invested in each stock or mutual fund.

- Calculates total worth of each stock or mutual fund.

- Calculates tax basis of each stock or mutual fund taking into  account
  dividends reinvested and partial sales.

- Calculates average price paid for each stock or mutual fund.

- Calculates (by iteration) the average annual yield for each stock or
  mutual fund.

--System Requirements--
HyperCard 2.1.  This stack was written under System 7 on my new Classic II.
I see no reason it won't work on any machine that is running HyperCard 2.1
or the new HyperCard Player.

--Shareware--
A US$5 registration fee is requested.

Compacted and BinHexed using Compact Pro 1.33.

--Larry Wink
  Internet: ljw@pro-magic.oau.org <or> fdmwink@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu

[Archived as /info-mac/card/investment-tracker-10.hqx; 64K]

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 10:11:05 CST
From: rjacks@austlcm.sps.mot.com (rodney jacks)
Subject: [*] Maelstrom 1.03 Update

Version 1.03 -- Released 12/92

 -- Fixed a typo in Maelstrom's error messages

 -- Fixed a cosmetic problem with the cheat mode on 12" monitors

 -- Fixed a problem that would cause the sound to stop playing on
    certain machines.  I believe that this is an Apple bug in the Sound
    Manager, but I've come up with a work-around.

 -- Added a sound volume control

 -- Fixed a bug that would cause Maelstrom to hang on the bonus/game
    over screens on certain machines with accelerator boards.  Again, I
    believe that this is an Apple bug in the Sound Manager, but I've come
    up with a work-around.

 -- Fixed a bug that would cause Maelstrom to not center Dialog Boxes
    properly if you were playing the game on a second monitor (ie not the
    main one).

[Archived as /info-mac/game/maelstrom-103-updater.hqx; 73K]

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 10:05:36 MST
From: wiromero@NMSU.Edu
Subject: [*] risk-ii.hqx

Dear Moderator,

This is a repost of a recent submission of the file Risk_II.sit.hqx.
Please submit this into your info-mac/game directory this last time.
This is a colorized version (modified using ResEdit) of the old
black/white Risk!  This makes excellent use of the 256-color
mode of any color Macintosh with a color display.  This has been
corrected of a minor flaw where the OK button in the victory
dialog window did not work.  It now works.  The color background
was modified slightly for better display on black/white Macs, as
well as the Risk! card backface.  This game still works on the old
black/white Macs, since the modifications are only resources, that
is, the actual game code is still original and unchanged in this
colorized version.  Therefore, this is not an unauthorized "hack".
It should be noted that though this game does not explicitly
announce anywhere within itself whether or not it is either share-
ware or freeware, one can assume freeware since it has been
available for downloading on ftp sites for quite some time now.
Hence all credit (c) rightfully belongs to the author of the game:

Antonie J. Engel
60 Pinewood Rd.
Bolton, MA 01740

Since this game now works for both black/white and color Macs,
it is certainly worth it to download.  Enjoy!


	 A note to the moderators:  I had a friend submit this game
	 on her own account about 4 days ago in the process of
	 showing her how to find the submissions addresses of
	 some of the sites, and how to submit the files for archiving,
	 but this time I am just doing it myself, so as not to involve
	 her a second time.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/risk-ii.hqx; 115K]

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:47:25 -0500
From: kkirksey@world.std.com (Ken B Kirksey)
Subject: [*] Thunder7 1.5.2 Patch Kit

This patch kit updates the Thunder7 CDEV and Thunder7 utility from version
1.5 or 1.5.1 to version 1.5.2.  It is recommended for ALL Thunder7 users.

Bug Fixes and Such:

+ Fix problem where PageMaker complains about import/export filters.

+ Fix problem with non-loading at startup time on SEs and Pluses.

+ Fix problem creating Ghostwriter files for windows that have titles > 31
characters.

+ Fix hang with Launcher Control Panel that comes with the Performa System
software (7.0.1P and 7.1P).

+ Recompile thesaurus code with THINK C 5.0.4.

+ Redraw progress dialog after prompts in some Selection Modules.

[Archived as /info-mac/cp/thunder7-15-to-152-updater.hqx; 220K]

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:23:46 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] tidbits-131-to-140.hqx

This archive contains 10 issues of TidBITS, numbers #131 through #140.
They are compresed in StuffIt 1.5.1 format for Unix-friendliness,
and are exactly the same as the individual issues with these numbers.
People who missed the originals can grab this archive to collect the
set... And as always, I recommend that you get Easy View to browse
through these and all other back issues of TidBITS.

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

[Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-131-to-140.hqx; 197K]

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Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:25:15 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] tidbits-141-to-150.hqx

This archive contains 10 issues of TidBITS, numbers #141 through #150.
They are compresed in StuffIt 1.5.1 format for Unix-friendliness,
and are exactly the same as the individual issues with these numbers.
People who missed the originals can grab this archive to collect the
set... And as always, I recommend that you get Easy View to browse
through these and all other back issues of TidBITS.

cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

[Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-141-to-150.hqx; 195K]

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 09:44:23 EST
From: Ephraim Vishniac <ephraim@Think.COM>
Subject: (A) Star Trek / After Dark

   How does the 'star trek' after dark module (the one at sumex...) work?
   I put it in the after dark folder but it does not show up in the
   menu....

If you mean /info-mac/art/star-trek-pics.hqx, it's not a module in itself,
it's a set of pictures for the PICS player module.

If you mean /info-mac/util/ad/star-trek.hqx, it's not a module in
itself, it's a picture for the Picture Frame module and settings for
MultiModule. Put the STAR TREK file into the MultiModule Settings
folder, and put the c. StarTrek file anywhere convenient.  (The Slide
Show Folder is a good place.) Choose the c. StarTrek file in the
Picture Frame module, then choose the STAR TREK settings in
MultiModule.

This package would certainly benefit from a Read Me!

BTW, why are After Dark modules archived under "util"? AD itself is a
Control Panel, and the modules (some of them, anyway) are art.

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 21:23:28 PST
From: "Mark K. Mellis" <lupine!mkm@uunet.UU.NET>
Subject: (Q) music editor wanted

Greetings

I'd like to buy a music editing application (a word processor for notes
:-) for my brother-in-law for Christmas, but I'm essentially ignorant
with respect to music :-) He writes complex liturgical music, and so I
expect that toy programs might not be appropriate. Anyone have a
suggestion?

 ...Mark (mkm@ncd.com)

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 02:24:05 -0800
From: <jiangwu@postgres.berkeley.edu>
Subject: (Q) PB160 and Mirror Removable HD?

I just got a HDI30 SCSI Adaptor today for my PB160.  So I tried to
connect my PB160 to a Mirror Removable 44 HD.  But my powerbook
always came up as a SCSI Disk instead of being a computer.  I tried
many different combinations with terminators such as:

PB160 <-> HDI30 <-> Terminator <-> SCSI cable <-> 44 Removable
PB160 <-> HDI30 <-> SCSI cable <-> Terminator <-> 44 Removable
PB160 <-> HDI30 <-> SCSI cable <-> 44 Removable
...
etc.

I checked the SCSI ids, there are no conflicts.  Has anyone
had this problem before?  What could be the problem?

When I daisy chain my PB160 and 44 Removable to my old SE, my PB160
does acts like a HD as it should.

Any help will be appreciated.

-- Jiang
   jiangwu@postgres.berkeley.edu

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:56:17 GMT
From: walker-john@yale.edu (John Walker)
Subject: Amiga to Mac file conversion

I hope this is how one posts to the digest...

I am trying to get some WordPerfect files from Amiga to Mac (and vice versa
if possible).  I know Amiga WordPerfect (the latest version) can save the
files in IBM WP 4.2 format, but I don't know what kind of disk format Amiga
uses.

Any suggestions?

 --------------------------
| John Walker             |
| Yale University         |
| walker-john@yale.edu    |
| (203) 436-0915          |
 --------------------------

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Date: 17 December 1992 12:50:11 CST
From: Richard.Wolf@UIC.EDU
Subject: AppleTalk version 58 (Q)

According to page 24 of this week's MacWeek, Apple is recommending that
all AppleTalk'ed Macs upgrade their AppleTalk version to 58 from 57.0.4.
The article also claims that the new Network Products Installer is on
AppleLink to which I do not yet have access.  The Network Products
Installer at ftp.apple.com doesn't seem to have this version of AppleTalk.
Is there any way in which I can do what Apple reccomends via FTP?
Am I, perhaps, just missing something obvious?

Richard K. Wolf
Small Systems Group/Computer Center
University of Illinois at Chicago
Richard.Wolf@uic.edu

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 21:39:35 -0500
From: gwerner@cc.brynmawr.edu
Subject: A Question regarding Monitor Resolutions

Dear Info-Mac....


I have a Macintosh IIcx with an apple 8 24GC Video Card, and a NEC
MultiSync 3FGx monitor.

Supposedly, this monitor can display images at different resolutions.
However, it did not come with any software to do so.  Is this not possible
with the Apple 8 24 GC video card?  Or will it only work if I buy a
third-party video card?

I am eager to find out...I could use the ability to change the monitor's
resoulutions.

Also, I've heard of something called the 8 24 GC video extension.  I do not
have this (I inherited this computer) and I was wondering if this made any
difference.

Thank you,

Gordon Werner                   gwerner@cc.brynmawr.edu
					 gwerner@haverford.edu

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:19:24 GMT
From: chh9@quads.uchicago.edu (Conrad Halling)
Subject: Buy pb180 now, or wait for Febuary pb's?

In article <1992Dec16.193321.751@dsd.es.com>
  edespain@es.com (Eric Despain) writes:

>I want to buy a pb180 to take to school with me in the spring to write my
>thesis.  I read an article in EE times today that implied apple would
announce
>a color power book in Febuary.  Also, the artice focused on a new low cost
>power book (<$1000) that apple will build in asia.
>    I don't really need color on the mac, especially if the quality of the
>monocrome display is superior to the color display for word processing.  But,
>I wonder if the pb180 prices will come down after the announcement, or if the
>new pbs will be in a new, smaller, package.

If you _really_ don't care about color and if most of your work will be word
processing, then you don't need a PowerBook 180 or even 160 -- a
black-and-white 145 will do.  If you want gray scale, then a 160 is nice
(I have one, and I love it) and only a few hundred $$ more than the 145.
The only advantages of the 180 over the 160 are the FPU (which you wouldn't
use for word processing) and the nicer, much more expensive screen.
Remember, you can buy a 160 and a 13" color monitor to plug it into for less
than the price of a 180.  And with a 160, you won't go through the agony of
stuck pixels.

I don't know how PowerBooks could be produced in a new, smaller package,
and still retain space for a full-size keyboard, a 640 x 400 screen, a
hard drive, and a floppy drive.

I doubt very much that PowerBook prices will come down anytime soon since
they're in extremely short supply.  I would advise that you buy today --
it might take until next February to get a PowerBook even if you order now.

--
Conrad Halling
c-halling@uchicago.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 09:44:36 EST
From: "Elvis (the REAL one)" <FDCAREY@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu>
Subject: coax card connection & SNAps 3270/3287

I'm about to be hardwired with a nubus card and a coax/twinax card.  I'll
be running SNA ps 3270 and SNA ps 3287 software on my IIsi with 5M RAM
and a tuned version of SYS7.

I'm on an IBM campus and the folks here don't know much about Macs.  The
person who will install my cards thinks that there will be a problem
running SNA ps with a IIsi under SYS7.  Is he correct?  If so, what are the
solutions?  SYS6.8? SYS 7.01?

Also any other tips concerning the use of this setup would be appreciated.
Thanks.  (Sorry if these are FAQs)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:24:00 +0000
From: "Bill (J.W.) Brine" <brine@bnr.ca>
Subject: Creators and Types

Is there a list of creators and types for various application
documents available anywhere? I work in a support group, and we
often get people coming to us with 'I pulled this file off the
net and none of my applications can read it.'  We have complied a
list of the major applications which we support, but the list is
far from comprehensive.  It would be helpful to be able to look
at the file creator and type and then tell them what application
they would need to read the file.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 23:35:51 EST
From: saper@oscar.biop.umich.edu (Mark A. Saper)
Subject: decoding a QuickMail enclosed file

I need to know how to decode a Mac file encoded in an e-mail message sent by
QuickMail.  I don't have QuickMail.  The file is in uudecode-apple-single
format.  I used UU-Lite and successfully converted it to a Mac file, but the
resultant file still needs to be further converted.  It currently has
creator type GCon and file type GIFf.  I know that it should eventually be
a MSWord 4.0 file.

Any suggestions?

Mark (saper@umich.edu)

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 9:06:52 +0000 (GMT)
From: Charlie Stross <charless@sco.COM>
Subject: DeskWriter v. StyleWriter (review)

I run a DeskWriter at home. I do quite a bit of serious work, but
not _quite_ enough to justify a laser. Before I bought my
printer, I compared the features and running costs of the HP product
and Apple's offering. What I found was this:

Speed:

	No contest, the DeskWriter is faster. It prints at
	2-4 ppm, compared to the 0.5-2 ppm of the StyleWriter.
	If you never print anything longer than 20 pages, this
	is probably not an issue for you. If you want to run
	an office, go figure.

Size:

	StyleWriter wins by a mile. The DeskWriter is not
	suited to life on the road, and if you need portability,
	you need the StyleWriter.

Quality:

	Depends on what kind of ink and paper you use. All
	ink-jet printers tend to bleed slightly when printing
	onto absorbent paper; ideally you need a shiny surface
	that will minimize capilliary flow. If you use blotting
	paper, expect blots. This, rather than the number of
	DPI the printer is rated at, seems to be the limiting
	factor on print quality; there's not a lot to choose
	between 360 dpi and 300 dpi if the paper blurs the dots
	together. Blurring is more pronounced in high-res modes
	for both printers; ordinary photocopier paper actually
	looks _worse_ when printed in high-quality mode, because
	the print contains enough ink to bleed badly.

	You might prefer a StyleWriter if you're going to do
	very fine graphics and use very high quality paper.
	Otherwise, the difference is virtually impossible to
	detect.

Duty cycle:

	DeskWriter wins, hands-down. Both printers are basically
	re-engineered versions of other print engines; the
	DeskWriter is a modified Deskjet series engine, while
	the StyleWriter is a modified Canon Bubblejet. (Yes, you can
	use BJ10 cartridges in a StyleWriter and Deskjet cartridges
	in a DeskWriter.) The BJ10 engine was designed for lightweight
	portable printers; I've seen the duty cycle for the
	StyleWriter quoted at anything from 3000 to 6000 pages
	before the printer is dead of old age. The DeskWriter,
	on the other hand, is good for at least 60,000 pages. My
	personal print cycle can hit 2000 pages/month of text;
	I'd kill a StyleWriter in six months, but the DeskWriter
	is good for years.

Consumables:

	For draft output, both printers run fine on copier paper;
	for correspondence it's necessary to use something better.
	Before getting an inkjet printer, check your paper costs
	and try to find a cheap source of good stuff.

	Print cartridges are usuriously expensive in this country
	(the UK); up to $30 (US) for 250 pages in top quality, or
	500 pages draft. Both machines are equal in this
	department. The commercial reinking kits are something of
	a rip-off. I use a DeskWriter for my Mac and a BJ10ex
	for my PC, and re-ink both; the DeskWriter runs on neat
	fountain pen ink, while the BJ10ex runs on 75% pen ink
	mixed with 25% isopropyl alcohol. In both cases, the
	cartridges tend to become streaky after about 2-5
	refills, but as cartridges are the biggest single running
	expense I would estimate that re-inking brings the cost of
	maintaining either of these machines down to the level of a
	dot-matrix. Otherwise, if you replace cartridges whenever
	they run dry, the running costs are approximately twice as
	high as for a laser (!)

Drivers:

	The HP print monitor is broadly equivalent to the Apple
	Print Monitor in function. Installing the DW driver isn't
	exactly difficult, and the machine will happily print
	TrueType fonts if you want it to. (The StyleWriter
	installation is rendered almost invisible by being part
	of the System 7 setup, if you get your printer at the
	same time as your Mac.)

	The HP printer can (I believe: I haven't tried this) be
	configured as an AppleTalk network printer, while the
	StyleWriter has no obvious option for this.

Noise:

	With my hearing, I can't tell the difference. The
	DeskWriter is probably a bit louder, but after years
	of putting up with dot-matrix printers (and then
	daisy-wheels and lasers with floor-shaking propensities)
	both of them are like heaven on earth.

Conclusion:

	For light home use with mixed graphics and text or
	some personal correspondence, or for use on the move,
	I'd recommend a StyleWriter. For serious home use --
	writing novels -- or for medium-duty business use,
	I'd go for the DeskWriter. In either case pay close
	attention to your paper quality and to re-inking those
	print cartridges; otherwise, when you see how much it's
	costing you, you'll wish you'd sprung the extra for a
	laser printer.

( Disclaimer: I have no connection with either Apple or
  Hewlett-Packard, other than as a satisfied customer. SCO
  isn't in the Mac business ;-)

--
Charlie Stross aka charless@scol.sco.com ..... UNIX oriented text mangler

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:07:45 +0000
From: R.W.Griffiths@open.ac.uk (Rob Griffiths)
Subject: Driver for HP Deskjet 550 C (A)

The following is an extract of an email I received back in september:

>'HPDJ 3.0b0' is a new version of the HP DeskJet printer driver
>'HPDJ 2.1' that was released in 1989.  It is the freeware solution
>when you have a DeskJet or a LaserJet handy and would like to connect
>it to your Macintosh.

>HPDJ will be archived at the Finnish University Network Archive
>'nic.funet.fi' alias 'ftp.funet.fi' alias 'FINFILES.BITNET'
>alias '128.214.6.100'.  The correct directory will probably be
>'pub/mac/printer".

>Olli Arnberg         Ari Mujunen
>s29749s@saha.hut.fi  Ari.Mujunen@hut.fi

>For correspondence, contact: hpdj-bugs@hut.fi

Rob Griffiths (R.W.Griffiths@open.ac.uk)

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:30:59 EST
From: refried@med.unc.edu (Howard M. Fried)
Subject: File Copying and Trash--What's the Connection?

I've been a Mac user for only about 6 months and reading info-mac
digest for just about as long.  I don't believe anyone has asked the following
question, so here goes...

	Under System 7, sometimes when I try to copy a file from the hard disk
to a floppy I get the message "There is not enough room on the disc ... to
copy ..., unless you empty the Trash.  Do you want to empty the Trash now?"

	We'll, as if I had a choice!  So I dutifully empty said waste
	receptacle
and copy my file.

	Would someone like to 'waste' some bandwidth and explain why copying a
file is sometimes dependent on the contents of the Trash?  It's not that I
mind
cleaning out the bin--I can usually reclaim something with Norton--but why
shoul
should I have to in the first place?

	Thanks.
	Howard Fried
	E-mail: refried@med.unc.edu

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 08:24:24 CST
From: "Joseph Clements"  <joec@saigon.mdh.umn.edu>
Subject: Graphics package

Can anyone recommend a statistical graphics package that will display
an univariate scatterplot which distinguishes frequencies of y without
hiding the multiple occurrences of y under one data point?

I would like to present the distribution of y's for each category of x
without hiding the multiple frequencies of y.

A few PC-based statistical packages (such as Epistat) for epidemiologic
analyses will do this.  Are there any Mac -based solutions?
I've tried SAS-JMP, DeltaGraph 1.5, and Cricket Graph none of which do
the trick.

-Joseph Clements
joec@saigon.mdh.umn.edu

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Date: 17 Dec 1992 02:04:40 GMT
From: hacker@access.digex.com (Dark Hacker)
Subject: History was made today...

History was made today.  IBM's stock price dropped to below its book
value of 55 today, to close at 51 points per share on news that Big
Blue would be shedding another 25,000 workers and cutting their
dividend.  On the very same day, Apple Computer stock closed at 55
points per share, 4 points higher than that of Big Blue.

When the Apple Macintosh was first introduced, IBM derided this computer
as "a toy" claiming that mice were too difficult for users to comprehend
and use.  They laughed at the little toaster of a machine:  "The business
world will never accept it."  "No one could use this for any serious
commercial development."

But who's laughing now?  IBM is on the skids and scrambling to stay
alive.  Apple Computer is experiencing record sales and revenues
thanks to their new Powerbook computers.

Innovation and attention to the customer in the form of ergonomic design
and well engineered products are what distinguish Apple's computers from
the utter crap being churned out by IBM and the PC clone manufacturers.
No longer able to rely on consistant sales of big mainframes to huge
institutions, IBM is suddenly finding it has to (gasp) compete and, if
it learns its lesson at all, will have learned it too late.

Ignore the market... and the market will ignore you...

- Dark Hacker
--
Dark Hacker @ Black Silicon, Fortress Of Computation
hacker@black-silicon.mclean.va.us

"Life itself is... COMPUTATION!"

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 10:02:33 EST
From: Igor List Maintainer <tcora@pica.army.mil>
Subject: IGOR and curve fitting pKa

James A. Connolly <CZRT@musica.mcgill.ca> writes:
>Does anyone know how to get "IGOR" and if it is good for curve fitting
>and subsequently taking derivatives of the curves?
>
>In particular, I'm looking for any Macintosh software capable of
>determining pKa values from a titration curve.

James: Igor is available from Wavemetrics, in Lake Oswego, OR 503-620-3001.

There is a demo version of the package (fully functional, I believe)
available via anon ftp from d31rz0.stanford.edu, directory /Igor. Check
it out.

		     Tom Coradeschi, Igor List Maintainer
			 <igor-request@pica.army.mil>

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:54 EST
From: E=MC^2 <ABRODY@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: IIvx vs. IIvi

To whomever it may concern: what is the difference between the IIvi and IIvx?
I don't believe I noticed both machines specs listed in the MacWorld.
Sincerely, ABRODY @ CLARKU

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 11:09:04 EST
From: "James A. Connolly" <CZRT@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA>
Subject: ImageWriter II and background printing???

A friend with an ImageWriter II (I think it has a II after the name)
is really tired of waiting for pages to print.  Is there a background
printing program capable of handling this printer?
			...James
CZRT@MusicA.McGill.CA

------------------------------

Date: 16 Dec 92 23:25:57 U
From: Evans-CIC-IS <evans-cic-is%micmac@redstone-emh2.army.mil>
Subject: Mac Help Desk TV Commercial

Have you seen it?  The Apple paid for Television commercial that shows a
computer help desk area with PC support guys going nuts while a Mac support
guy
reads the newspaper (Like the Maytag repair man).I have not, BUT so many
people
have told me about it.  I am not much into watching TV, but If I could talk
someone into capturing that commercial into quicktime and posting it here
(INFO-MAC) or at a location where I can FTP it, I would be most greatful.

Watch for it....
Thanx
Troy

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:51:21 -0800
From: Robert Lenoil <lenoil@catalogic.com>
Subject: MacInTax at Price Club

Did the MacInTax at the Price Club include a rebate offer (as it did in at
least one mail order catalog I saw)? If so, buying through Price Club would
have been cheaper than upgrading through Chipsoft, and I will complain to
Chipsoft.

-Robert Lenoil

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:15:32 PST
From: "Larry Frazier" <0084P@CC.NPS.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: MacWrite 5.0

Our little elementary school is running a very early MacWrite on 512K
Macs with two floppy drives, and Clariswas good enough to tell me that
MacWrite 5.0 will run on such a system and has a spell checker. They
said they don't have any more such disks in the warehouse, but I'm
welcome to copy it wherever I can find it. Anybody have it? Thanks for
your time!

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 08:13:59 CST
From: "Eric H. Durbrow" <C509393@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: More on DeskWriter v. StyleWriter

I asked the same question several months ago. The critical difference
between the two printers is not so much speed and print quality but main-
tenance and repair costs. The DW, I believe, has a four year warranty and
has an estimated life time four times as long as the StyleWriter. The Style-
Writer I was told, is extremely expensive to repair.

I have not brought either at the moment; I'm waiting for Apple to see if they
can make a better printer. I would appreciate any specs on the StyleWriter II
or any references, respond to info-mac if possible. Eric.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:05:49 -0500
From: "Tom Wilson" <wilsont@fedc04.fed.ornl.gov> (Tom Wilson)
Subject: MSDOS Equivalent Software

Can someone enlighten me regarding the MSDOS equivalents of Fetch,
TurboGopher and NSCA/BYU TelNet?

I'd also like to know the most popular decompression utilities for IBM
users.  It seems that most of the files I see are .zip, .zoo, or .arc.
I've either seen or used Mac software to extract these type file, but I
wouldn't know what to reccommend to a DOS user.

Tom Wilson
Oak Ridge National Laboratory
<wilsont@fedc04.fed.ornl.gov>

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 04:38:07 CST
From: r81185@cctwin.ee.ntu.edu.tw
Subject: Need info about ordering Lapis PDS30 series

Hi,

I want to buy a color monitor for my SE/30. After I read
`se30-monitor-options.t
xt' from sumex (thanks to John Thoo), I decide to use Lapis Colorserver
PDS30-17
 interface card. But unfortunately, I can't find any information about how to
 ma
il-order it. Does anyone know what should I do?

Thanks in advance.

Bow-Yaw Wang

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 December 1992 13:03:50 -0800
From: John Livesey <livesey@u.washington.edu>
Subject: Noisy PB100 drive

I'm enjoying my PB100 (perhaps a little too much... I can't imagine getting
along without it) and thus a recent development is rather disturbing.  I've
noticed over the last few weeks or so an increasing tendency for the hard
drive
[only 20 Mb :-( ] to sound like a B747 when starting up... (well, maybe a
piper
cub, but it's still noisy).  The noise starts about 10 seconds after waking
from
sleep or upon startup and lasts anywhere from 10 minutes to 20 minutes...
then,
if the machine is left on, it quiets down for the remainder of its time on.
It
did this only once in 10 startups at first, but in the last few weeks that has
gotten to be nearly every time.

So far, no performance difficulties, so I haven't had any reason to exercise
the
warranty (which has another 9 months or so).

With all the past issues with "stiction" in certain Apple-relabeled drives,
I'm
wondering if this noise is cause for concern.  A harbinger of failure to
come?
I haven't heard such sounds from any of the other 20 or so machines I've
(unofficially) managed over the last 4 years.  For the time being, I'm backing
up as often as practical (without a floppy drive, it's not as convenient as it
might be otherwise).

Thanks for any opinions or experiences you can provide.  If you send me
e-mail,
and I hear of other "me-too" responses, I'll summarize to the digest

John
(livesey@u.washington.edu)

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:32:45 -0500 (EST)
From: Scott Kaplan <sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu>
Subject: OmegaSANE ResEdit patch in 7.1...

Well, I got myself a copy of Speedometer from the archives, and I went back a
few issues to see exactly how to perform this patch in ResEdit.  My findings
were, ummm, interesting.  Hopefully someone can help me sort them out.

First thing, when doing the patch.  I have a IIci, ROM revision #124.
However,
the ROV# resource, well, I only had one, which was 1660.  So, i changed that
one anyway.  I then went and ran Speedometer with the old copy of 7.1 still
going (sans patch), and recorded my results.  I then ran speedometer after
restarting with the new patched system.  Well, lo and behold...My results were
THE SAME!  Wow.  I figured I had messed up the patch and wasn't getting any
results.  But wait...

I went and picked up the Speedometer report that was put together and posting
in the archives.  The sets of numbers I was getting for the math functions
were very close to those performed with the test IIci and 7.0.1!  The 7.1
results in the report were slower.

So, does this mean that somehow I never lost the OmegaSANE at all?  What's
going on around here?

Scott Kaplan
Amherst College
sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 11:12:40 -0700
From: parkj@bones.et.byu.edu (John R. Park)
Subject: patching OmegaSANE routines into 7.1

Following the directions of RTL@SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK
and thomsonj@dcs.gla.ac.uk I patched in the OmegaSANE
routines from System 7.01 into System 7.1 and the results
on my Mac were amazing!  I'll be happy to e-mail anyone a
copy of my Speedometer test file if they are interested.
The whole operation takes just a minute or two if you are
familiar with ResEdit.  I've run a half dozen programs since
the "transplant" and so far the operation has been successful.



--
John R Park                |  Dept of Mech. Engineering
parkj@bones.et.byu.edu     |  Brigham Young University
/\  /\  /\  /\  /\  /\_________________________________
  \/  \/  \/  \/  \/   Abortion stops a beating heart.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:25:13 EST
From: Matthew B Cravit <cravitma@student.msu.edu>
Subject: PPC Toolbox - What is it?

I was playing with a program called Info-Man (?) which displays a bunch of
information about the Mac it is running on.  It indicates that all of the
information it displays is obtained from calling Gestalt.  One thing it told
me
was that my PB100 (2/40, Sys7.1) had "PPC Toolbox present".  What is the PPC
toolbox, and what does it do?

/Matthew
cravitma@student.msu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 09:56:08 PST
From: hinden@Eng.Sun.COM (Bob Hinden)
Subject: PPP for the MAC

I am looking for a PPP (Point to Point Protocol) implementation for the
MAC.  If there are no products available, I would be very interested in
being participating in a beta test.  I have a Powerbook 170 and want to
dial into Sun's PPP servers.

Bob

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 18:53:12 ITA
From: maurizio lana <LANA%ITOCSIVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: program to do screen snapshot wanted

I'd like to find a program that allows me to take a snapshot of *selected*
port
ion of the screen. I know of a program called Capture, but in version 2.0 it
ha
ngs up, on my IIsi & System 7.0.
Anyone could help? I know of Archie, so I'd need only a name to search for.
Thanks to everyone. Maurizio

MAURIZIO LANA | E-MAIL: LANA@ITOCSIVM.BITNET  | phone & fax 39-11-837262
CISI - Universita' di Torino - V. S. Ottavio 20 - 10124 Torino Italy

------------------------------

Date: 16 Dec 92 17:59:42 EST
From: Jim Haupt <76436.2003@CompuServe.COM>
Subject: Quadra 950 on Ethernet

Are many of you using a Quadra as an Appleshare server on Ethernet?

I posted some of this information a month or so ago - and promised an update
>From your responses.  Here is a summary of what has happened, though no one
>From the net, Apple, or Computerland has been able to explain or solve this
problem.

I have tried using a Quadra 950, but have had a number of problems.  We were
using the latest of eveything (7.0.1, 57.0.4, AS 3.0, Tuneup 1.1.1 etc.)  The
problem is that the Quadra could barely transmit data on ethernet.  It could
receive a 2 meg file in about 23 seconds, but it took it 10 minutes to
transmit
the same file!

Well, I figured something must be wrong.  I reformatted and reinstalled the
hard drive, reloaded all the network software, etc.  Tested for a while,
problem came back though I had a period where I thought everything worked.
This is closed/locked test environment, no users running around mucking with
the system, users were defined on the server, but the passwords were changed
(for my testing purposes) so no one could have logged on accidentally.  I have
reproduced the problem several times.  So has computerland - at their site!

We figured it must be hardware, so we swapped out the logic board three times,
the hard drive 4 times, memory was changed once, tranciever was changed 4
times.  (I'm testing on a 10BaseT net, I believe computerland is using a
thinnet).

Figured it was the network, or network connection - had a professional come in
with sniffer to check out our network - everything checks out perfectly.
(Also, a Mac IICI with Sonic Systems nubus board does NOT have the problem
transmitting when hooked up to the same node).

Figured there must be a problem with Appleshare on a Q950.  Apple TCE says
probably not, they walked me through memory allocation, cache settings, etc.
Everything is fine.  They will escalate it.  I've not heard back since, in
spite of weekly followup calls.

OK - I must have installed the software wrong, or have bad diskettes.
Computerland loaded the software at their site, from their diskettes.  Problem
reoccurs after an hour or so of use EVERYTIME.

I have corresponded with a few users in other parts of the country who have
similar problems, with and without Appleshare.  I was beginning to think that
all Quadra's have a problem, but Apple says that everything works fine at
their
site, I have heard from Wade Williams that their Quadra worked OK on
ethernet.
(But I don't know if he had a chance to benchmark it's performance.  The
Quadra
will 'work' if you don't mind mind a slowdown of 20:1 transmitting across the
network. That is unacceptable for a file server).

What is left for me to try?  Maybe there was a run of bad logic boards at the
factory?  Or maybe some ROMS are bad?  (but wouldn't roms be replaced when the
logic board is replaced?)

I have no answer, Computerland has no answer, Apple TCE can give no answer,
and
Apple Service can give no answer.  I would greatly appreciate any input you
can
give me (lurkers included).  I really would like to understand WHAT the
problem
is with the Quadra/Appleshare, even if I have to switch to NFS or Novell
running on an Intel platform.

I will greatly appreciate any information that anyone can give me, and I'll be
happy to summarize information I receive.

I can be reached via compuserve, or Applelink.  My Applelink ID is
HAUPT.J.R@@AppleLink.Apple.COM.

Thanks - Jim Haupt

PS - There is a new version of Appleshare 3.01 that is supposedly shipping,
TCE
says that won't make any difference, nor will using the 1.3 network installer
that comes with appletalk 58.0.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:35:14 PST
From: "Phillip Broussard" <Broussard@anvil.nrl.navy.mil>
Subject: Quadra limitation ?

Can any of you netters out there tell me are the Quadra 700/900/950 restricted
to using only 1 and 4 MB simms?  What is the problem with using the 16 MB
simms.
This is an academic question, as I realized that the Quadra 700, while a very
powerful machine, is limited to 20 MB with the above proviso, while say the
Mac
IIci can go up to 128 MB.  Why would apple do this?

Post replies to me, and thanks for any info!

Phill Broussard

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:44:19 -0500
From: djt2@po.CWRU.Edu (Dennis J. Templeton)
Subject: Random-dot-stereoautograms [SIT! vs SITD]  (Q)

Has anyone used the random-dot-stereoautograms program out of Sumex-aim?
I pulled this out and after de-binhexing got a .sit file that Stuffit 1.5.1
doesn't recognize.  The file had a "SITD" code instead of the usual "SIT!"
but stuffit 1.5.1 couldn't handle it with either code attached.

Duuuh... is there a version of Stuffit that 1.5.1 can't handle that has
passed me in the night?  or is the posted version of this program a little
wacked?

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:23 CST
From: GUNDLACH@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU
Subject: Replacing mouse switches.

A few weeks ago someone suggested that the Cherry E61-10A switch looked like
it would replace the ones that tend to fail in the mouse.  They don't fit.
They are more than twice as large as the ones in the mouse.  If anyone finds
a source for a replacement.  Please post.
     jim gundlach

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 12:20:47 GMT
From: Mr Gordon S Byron <g.s.byron%stirling.ac.uk@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: SCSIspec

Is there a fix (hdware or sftwre), which can make the Mac standard
SCSI connection compatible with SCSI 2? I believe the quadra now
supports SCSI 2, but the other boxes IICI etc don't. If there is a faq
on this i would appreciate knowing wqhere it is? thanks
gordon

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 12:29:40 CST
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
Subject: season's greetings (A)

I don't know about a shareware or freeware program to create greetings
cards, but if short-term memory serves me well (a big if) Aldus has a
special price on Personal Press at the moment and that program comes
with lots of templates for greetings cards. I think they're bundling
T/Maker clip art with it as well.

I believe I read this in MacWeek and am not making it up. I think the
special price was under $100.

Graeme Forbes

------------------------------

Date: 17 Dec 1992 11:27:07 -0500 (EST)
From: mcguire@utkvx.utk.edu (Michael A. McGuire)
Subject: SendPS and System 7.1 (Q)

Dear Netters

  It seems that SendPS (version 2.0) does not work under System 7.1.
Does anyone know of a patch, new version, or work around?  It works
fine under 7.0 and 7.0.1 but under 7.1 on different Macs it flushes
the job.  Any help will be appreciated.  Please reply directly to me
and I will summarize for the net.  Thanks.

Michael A. McGuire, UTCC,  MCGUIRE@UTKVX.UTK.EDU
HO, HO, HO <:-}

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 10:51:21 +0100
From: E.VISSER@RIVO.AGRO.NL
Subject: Speedometer 3.1 records

I'm trying to collect for all the machine's a record from speedometer 3.1.

I already have a record for the SE, Classic, Mac portable, Classic II, LC II,
SE/30, IISI, IICX, IICI and  Powerbook 160.

I like to ask people to send speedometer 3.1 records directly to me

many thanks, I wish you all a happy christmas and a merry newyear.

eric visser
ericv@rivo.agro.nl

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 16:03:55 -0800
From: Jack Repenning <jackr@dblues.wpd.sgi.com>
Subject: SpeedyFinder and Labels (R)

In Volume 10, Number 298, Jeffrey C Jodoin writes:

	Label's do work ... just not when SpeedyFinder (1.5.4 and
	previous?) is running....  Maybe SpeedyFinder will have an
	update soon ... until then its not being used on my system.

While 1.5.4 is the latest unregistered version, _registered_ users are
several versions beyond that.  (As a med student, Victor hasn't had
enough time to put together a new shareware copy in a while.)  A
number of 7.1-specific conflicts have been fixed in the latest
version, although I can't remember whether that one was mentioned.

Maybe you should register your copy, Jeffrey.

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:02:55 GMT
From: wong@athena.mit.edu (David C. Wong)
Subject: StuffIt Deluxe 3.0.3 Problems?

Hi.  I recall hearing somewhere that SIT Deluxe 3.0.3 has some major flaws.
  Anybody know for sure?  Thanks.
--
	 Respectfully submitted by David Wong <wong@athena.mit.edu>

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:49:25 -0500
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: StyleWriter v. DeskWriter (some [more] questions answered)

E=MC^2 <ABRODY@vax.clarku.edu> writes:

 > * The Stylewriter comes free with a utility to print at the
 > same time you edit documents and run applications in the foreground.
 > This utility is called PrintMonitor. PrintMonitor may make
 > the Stylewriter slightly faster in the long run, by allowing
 > you to continue editing the document. However, I am uncertain
 > as to whether PrintMonitor works with the Deskwriter.

The DW 3.1 drivers come with HP PrintMonitor, which allows background
printing.  Note that background printing is actually SLOWER than foreground,
but it does allow you to do other things in the interim.



------------------------------

Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:50 EST
From: E=MC^2 <ABRODY@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: Stylewriter vs. Deskwriter

To whomever it may concern, message 1386 has had at least 3 responses about
the PrintMonitor for the Deskwriter.  Thank you.  What is this I here about
the 2 ppm Stylewriter II, any specs? Sincerely ABRODY @ CLARKU

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 07:23:02 PST
From: Brad E Sandman <Brad_E_Sandman@ccm.hf.intel.com>
Subject: StyleWriter vs. DeskWriter (ad. infinitum)

Just to add to the confusion, or hopefully clear things up...

The StyleWriter _is_ slower than the DeskWriter, but not as much as most
people claim.
The StyleWriter has 360dpi, DeskWriter 300dpi.
The StyleWriter is SMALLER.
The DeskWriter has a nicer paper tray (vs. the SW's sheet feeder).
The StyleWriter is less expensive than the DeskWriter.
Both can use TrueType fonts (no real performance difference here, except
for the normal disparity).

Remember, however, if onscreen DISPLAY time of TrueType fonts is an issue
and disk space is not as critical, INSTALL THE BITMAPS!  The nice thing
about TrueType is that it defers to bitmaps for SCREEN display at any point
sizes present on the system, and generates the display for any sizes not
installed.  TrueType is always used for printing when it's there.

Anyway, I bought the StyleWriter 'cause I got a good deal on it.  I was
able to play with both printers for a while, and decided that the slower
speed of the StyleWriter could easily be attributable to the extra
calculations (or composition) for the higher resolution.  If speed's a
concern, though, DON'T USE BACKGROUND PRINTING on the SW under Sys7.  If
you can sacrifice that feature, there's no real speed problem as the SW
prints about 1ppm (or so, please don't quote me here) with the TuneUp
driver (on my SE).

I upgraded from an ImageWriterII.  No complaints.

Hpoe this hepls,
Brad Sandman (brad_e_sandman@ccm.hf.intel.com)

-Intel doesn't care about Mac's, so don't blame them.
--Anybody need an ImagewriterII?

------------------------------

Date: 17 Dec 1992 09:52:58 -0500
From: "Scott Bresnahan" <scott_bresnahan@terc.edu>
Subject: Subject- Mac IIsi and Sound

    Subject: Mac IIsi and Sound Manager (Q)
    Date:    12/17/92

    What is the  problem with the Macintosh IIsi and the sound
manager or
    sound chip.  I cannot find a tech note on this problem.  The
symptom
    is: all sound just stops.  This usually occurs, (but not
always) when
    trying to play continuous sound.  All of a sudden, the sound
stops.
    In fact all sound stops, including the sysbeep.  The only
work around
    that I know of, is to open up the Sound control panel and
change the
    volume a few times until the sysbeep can be heard again.

    Is this a universal IIsi problem?  Or is only this specific
IIsi?
    What is the best work around out there?  If you know of a
toolbox
    sequence that can be coded to prevent or test for the
problem, that
    would be helpful too.

    Thanks.

    Scott Bresnahan
    TERC
    scott_bresnahan@terc.edu

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:15:39 -0600 (CST)
From: Mark Davisson <markd@zeta.saintjoe.EDU>
Subject: Sys 7 Printing!!!

I hope this is not a FAQ.   We have recently converted a few of our
"able" machines to Sys 7.0.  This has caused some problems printing
because we have other machines on the same network running Sys 6.x.
They can both print but they must load their respective printer drivers
into the LaserPrinter before they can print.  This disables printing for
every machine that is not the same system type.
Is it possible to use the same printer with Mac's that are running
different versions of the OS?  We have a 3Com network and they recently
supplied us with the software needed for Sys7 to work with it but,
again, the printing is the only problem we are having.  Any help would
be greatly appreciated.  Send responses directly to me please and I will
summarize if needed.  Thank you in advance!!!

Mark Davisson - SJC Student Administrator
markd@zeta.saintjoe.edu
How come it's always "a penny for your thoughts" and "put your two cents
in"....
Someone's making money on this.

------------------------------

Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:07:50 PST
From: wsanders@Eng.Sun.COM (Wiley Sanders)
Subject: The fifteen minute battery (A)

PB100 battery life also seems to be greatly curtailed at low temperatures.
I throw my PB100 in my backpack and ride a motorcycle about 5 miles to
work. When the Mac is chilled from the ride on cold days (< 50 deg F)
battery life is reduced from about 30 to 15 minutes.

Also, remember that the battery continues to drain while the Mac is
sleeping. When I let the PB100 sleep for a couple of nights without
using it or plugging it in I find it has less than 20 minutes of
charge left with the screen and disk on.

-wiley

------------------------------

Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:32:51 -0600
From: "Stan Kerr" <stankerr@uiuc.edu>
Subject: The Logitech 3-button mouse for the Mac

This is a short review of the Logitech 3-button mouse for the Macintosh. I
recently ordered it to evaluate its performance with MacX, and this review
helps fulfill that goal.

The mouse is produced in right-handed and left-handed versions; the button
surface is slanted towards the little finger to make it more comfortable. I
got the right-handed version. The mouse tail has a standard Apple Desktop
Bus (ADB) connector; the connector permits another ADB plug to be
piggy-backed onto it, so you can (as I do) still have the old mouse
connected (and it still works).

(Logitech also makes a trackball version of the mouse, called the Trackman.)

The mouse driver software is called MouseKey, and is placed in the System
Folder. Under System 7, it goes in the Control Panels subfolder. I am using
MouseKey version 1.1. (My system is a Mac IIcx running System 7.0.1 with
Tuneup 1.1.1.)

After the driver is installed and the system rebooted, the default behavior
of the mouse keys is:

     left button  :  simple click
     middle button:  double click
     right button :  command-w

This means that pressing and releasing the middle button is the same as
issuing a double click with the old mouse, and pressing and releasing the
right button is the same as typing command-w (which is commonly used to
close windows in Mac applications). This default behavior works nicely in
Eudora; I can point at a mail item and click the middle button to open it
and read it, then click the right button to close it when done.

The mouse keys can be reprogrammed with the MouseKey control panel; this
can be brought up from the Control Panels folder (or the Control Panel DA
in System 6), or through a special key sequence (default is
shift-option-return). Each key can be programmed to be equivalent to a
keystroke, or a keystroke combined with modifier keys, e.g.
shift-control-option-e, plus a few extra special options (double click,
triple click, click hold). This is the limit of programming, and the
greatest defect of the current driver software. When you press a mouse key,
its keyboard equivalent is entered; if you happen to have other keys
depressed at the time you press the mouse key, they are ignored. This
severely limits what you can do with the mouse keys, compared to what you
can imagine doing with them. (For instance, it would be nice if
double-clicking a mouse key could have an action different from
single-clicking it, or it would  be useful if pressing a mouse key could
cause a menu item to be selected, etc.; the combinations go far beyond the
simple click-this or click-that which they presently allow.) Some of this
defect, but not all of it, can be alleviated through macro packages such as
QuicKeys (which I use) or Tempo II (for example, with QuicKeys you can
program a key combination to perform a complex action, then use the
MouseKey control panel to program that key combination onto a mouse key).

In particular, with MacX, you can program the middle and right buttons to
behave correctly, EXCEPT in those situations where you need to use the META
key in combination with a mouse key. Some X applications require a modifier
key to be depressed at the same time a mouse key is depressed. For example,
in an xterm terminal window, it is common that depressing
META-middle-button causes a menu of special xterm options to appear. With
MacX, META is usually the Control key, so this implies having to depress
the Control key and simultaneously depress the middle mouse button; the
Logitech mouse, however, ignores the Control key, so you're stuck; you have
to use the MacX keyboard method, which is to depress
option-control-left-arrow. Not knowing the technology underlying the mouse,
I make the optimistic assumption that this defect can be corrected with a
better mouse driver, and that perhaps Logitech will produce one. For now,
however, the Logitech mouse can not be made into a fully functional X
Windows mouse.

One other feature that is nice is that the mouse keys can be differently
programmed for different applications. The MouseKey control panel has a
menu of application names, to which you can add applications at will; when
the control panel is activated from within an application, that application
is highlighted and its mouse key mappings are shown. Simply clicking on a
different name in the application menu allows you to reprogram the mouse
keys for any application at any time.

   Stan Kerr  stankerr@uiuc.edu
   Computing & Communications Office, University of Illinois at Urbana

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Date: Thu, 17 December 1992 12:33:14 -0800
From: John Livesey <livesey@u.washington.edu>
Subject: The Taxman Cometh

I hope this doesn't place me in the group of people who look on the "dark
side"
of life, but I'm thinking ahead to that wonderful day (several days after
Christmas) when the IRS sends out Forms 1040 et al.  I've used TurboTax for
about 4 years on a PeeCee and am familiar with that program, but now the
household has been Mac-ified.  I got a mailer recently from ChipSoft
(publishers
of TurboTax) who bought out MacInTax from another company offering what I
believe is the best price on that package... still, I'm wondering what else is
out there.  Also, I seem to remember that some folks last year who had
MacInTax
in the first year of ChipSoft ownership had some difficulties with the program
and complained rather loudly...

Thus my question:

Has anyone used (even preliminarily) an alternative to MacInTax?  Perusing the
MacConnection catalog, I see something from MECA called TaxCut, but don't know
any more than the (not very descriptive) blurb in the catalog provides.

Also, while I'm on the subject of personal finances, what are your opinions on
Managing Your Money (5.0) vs Quicken (?.?)

Thanks for any and all responses... (as usual) if there is interest, I'll
summerize.

John
(livesey@u.washington.edu)

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:45 EST
From: E=MC^2 <ABRODY@vax.clarku.edu>
Subject: Translation softwares (mac - Apple IIe, MS-DOS, Windows, SUN)

To all netters on info-mac:
There has been a surge in requests for translator softwares via Macintoshes to
other platforms.

Apple IIe
Macintosh
MS-DOS
Windows
Sun

Many still graphics image, word processor, database and spreadsheet
 formats may be translated among those platforms.   Also these formats retain
codes such as formulas, tabs, and type styles upon translation.
How?

DataViz's MacLink/PC.  Over 600 translations in possible from one program
 package.

And your Mac needn't have a superdrive.  - all it needs is a phone port as
serial RS 232C - Mac Phone port serial connection is provided.
Your DOS machine can be an 8086, 80486 or any machine in between.
It is also an excellent document translator for applications you may be
missing on your Mac.

It also comes with a free copy of Dayna's DosMounter.

As I can not copy the software to anybody else, this is only information and
no program included.  It is widely available at software stores across the
U.S.

Disclaimer:

No, I am not a salesman, nor am I affiliated with any of the above or below
companies - I just thought with all the requests for translators, this could
help many people.  I have never used Access-PC, Soft-PC, or Macintosh File
Exchange, all of whom may have equal or better abilities.  Also I have
heard about Argosy Software which may have good network translators, though
I have not used that software either.  Thus no implications should be drawn
about how "good" or "bad" any of these softwares are.  I would be more than
interested what additional utilities may be found from the above softwares.

- good luck

Sincerely,

ABRODY @ CLARKU

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:41:59 -0700 (MST)
From: "Russell J. Pagenkopf" <cs000rjp@selway.umt.edu>
Subject: Update for QuarkXPress 3.1

  This is an update for QuarkXPress v.3.1. It is a large file (1.1 MB) but
contains many new and useful items. It is also a bug-fix release. Finally
Quark has included a list of known programs that are incompatible with
QuarkXPress that cause QuarkXPress to "unexpectedly quit".
  For those concerned about the legality of this posting, I quote from the
letter included with the update we received. "We encourage you to freely
distribute this updater. Give it to your friends or post it on your local
bulletin board system. However we do ask that you include the 3.11 Read Me
file with any copy you distribute."
  This archive is a Binhex-Stuffit-Self Extracting archive. I apologize
for the multiple compaction routines but this was created directly from
the update disk and as such nothing has been changed and hopefully no
viruses have been introduced.

Enjoy!

Russ Pagenkopf                  cs000rjp@selway.umt.edu
Journalism Dept.                cs__rjp@lewis.umt.edu
University of Montana           (My opinions of course.)

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:51:45 +0200
From: mtrms01@techunix.technion.ac.il
Subject: Utilities

We have just purchased a whole bunch'o'macs and want to purchase a
utilities package....reading through the digest I come across problems with
particular packages (ie Norton vs. Autodoubler).  Has anyone done a
comparison of the packages (Norton, Public, MacTools....) either on the net
or in MacWorld/MacUser??  These are for computers that will be used by
faculty, grads, and undergrads.

Thanks for any information in advance....m  i  k  e
Dr. Michael Silverstein                                 Tel:  972-4-294-582
Materials Engineering, Technion                      Fax:  972-4-321-978

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 08:52:09 +0100
From: Christoph Reichenberger <chrei@soft.uni-linz.ac.at>
Subject: Version Control: Revisionist - Voodoo

Rick Jarvis wrote in one of the latest info-mac-digests that he downloaded
Revisionist 1.4, but found it cumbersome to use since each archive contains
only a single file and its deltas.

Oh, its a problem with Mac-Users. "real mac users don't need
documentation" - obviously they even discard ReadMe files before they
read them. (Maybe we should call the files TrashMe in the future  ;-) )
So let me post one paragraph of the ReadMe file of the Revisionist package.

<<<<
Revisionist was an intermediate result during the development of a full
version
control tool (Multi-File, Multi-User, Multi-Variants, tree browser for the
project structure, object locking, project history, ...). This tool (it is
called Voodoo) will be commercial and is under beta test mode now. It will be
available within 1. Qu. 1993. If you are interested in Voodoo, send me an
EMail
and you will get more information. If you are a registered user of Revisionist
you may get a free (full functional) demo version of Voodoo.
>>>>

Perhaps there will be a light verison of Voodoo on a shareware basis.

Christoph Reichenberger - the author of Revisionist and Voodoo


	       Christoph Reichenberger   Tel.:     +43-732-2468-447
       Johannes Kepler University Linz   Fax:      +43-732-2468-426
	 Institute of Computer Science   Internet: ChRei@soft.uni-linz.ac.at
		   Software Department             ChRei@edvz.uni-linz.ac.at
		    Altenbergerstr. 69   Bitnet:   K331670@ALIJKU11
		  A-4040 Linz, Austria

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 19:03:05 CDT
From: peterc@cubetech.com (Peter Creath)
Subject: Wanted: Ren & Stimpy sounds

Alas, by the time I discovered Ren & Stimpy, all the
"ren-stimpy-show-grp#.hqx"
(or whatever) files had expired.  Could somebody either put those
back up (now that sumex-aim has lots of space) or let me know where
I can get them (via mail, FTP, whatever)?

Adv(thanks)ance!

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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:30:53 -0600
From: Stan Kerr <kerr@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>

Newsgroups: uiuc.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.digest,comp.sys.mac.apps