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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:34:09 EDT
From:         gaynet@GALLIFREY.KENT.EDU
Subject:      GayNet Digest Volume 6 Issue 4

In this issue:
                             sesquipedalian
                                  YMCA
                     GayNet Digest Volume 6 Issue 2
              Mark Rosenstein // sesquipedalian // family
                                 Bravos
                        Keep calling Pete Wilson
                       sesquipedalian and family
        Peaceful demonstration planned in SF re AB2601,3825,3019
             Sept 8th: "A Vigil for Lesbians and Gay Youth"
                       Do you wanna funk with me?

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From: chuckmc@kailand.kai.com (Chuck McCaffrey)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:50:04 CDT
Organization: Kuck and Associates, 1906 Fox Drive, Champaign IL USA 61820-7334,
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Subject: sesquipedalian

LAT <tate@siam.org> asks:

> Can someone with access to a half-decent dictionary provide
> me with a defintion of "sequipedalian"?  Perhaps even
> Gabriel himself can do this...

I think that Gabriel means "sesquipedalian," which means "fond of
using long words and phrases."  Henry James is certainly that.

-
             Chuck McCaffrey uunet!kailand!chuckmc chuckmc@kai.com
           For the lonesome-hearted lovers with too personal a tale,
          And for each unharmful, gentle soul misplaced inside a jail,
               And we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 14:52:35 EDT
From: dhinrich@cc.gettysburg.edu
Subject: YMCA

Hi!  Believe it or not, I have most of the words to YMCA.  When the song
came out I was fascinated by it and decided to find the words and use the
song in class.  Talk about yellow notes in my files.  At any rate, here are
most of the lyrics.  Some of it I could never get from listening to the
record.

There's no need to feel down, Young Man
Pick yourself off the ground, Young Man.
Cause you're in a new town
There's no need to be unhappy.
Young Man - There's a place you can go
When your short on your dough.
You can stay there and I'm sure you will find
Many ways to have a good time.

Its fun to stay at the YMCA.

They have everything for young men to enjoy
You can hang out with all the boys.
Its fun to stay at the YMCA.
You can get yourself clean
You can get a good meal
You can do whatever you feel.

Young man, are you listening to me?
Young man, what do you want to be?
You can make __________ your dreams
But you've got to know this one thing.
_______________________
Young man, put your pride on the shelf and just go there
to the YMCA
I'm sure they can help you today.

Young man, I was once in your shoes
I was down and out with the blues
I felt that no man cared if I were alive
I felt the whole world was so jive.
That's when someone came up to me,
Young man, take a walk up the street
Its a place there called the YMCA
They can start you back on your way.

Don Hinrichs

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Date: 02 Sep 1992 15:05:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: BOLDINGW@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU
Subject: Re: GayNet Digest Volume 6 Issue 2
Mime-Version: 1.0

  Hello, folks.  I am newly signed onto the net.  I was on previously but
  left the net two years ago when I moved from Virginia to New York.  Ane
  I am just now getting back to a basic level of computerization.  Anyway,
  Hello to any oldtimers.

  A couple of questions:
	1.  How can you bypass very long articles that people write.
	Can you delete only a part of the digest?

	2.  Do people always write in such bulk?  It makes it very difficult
	to read everything.

	3.  Can you printout the digests or is that an individual function
	of your terminal?  I am on a Mac SE.

  I would like to begin a network with others especially in the NYC area.
  I am an administrator in Housing at NYU.

	Thanks,       Bill Bolding  bitnet%"boldingw@nyuacf"

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Date:         Wed, 02 Sep 92 13:03:36 MST
From: "Gabriel (in New Mexico)" <G9348712@nmsuvm1.NMSU.Edu>
Subject:      Mark Rosenstein // sesquipedalian // family

Thanks, Mark, for all the work you've done in your tenure with Gaynet.
It must have been a hell of a lot, especially each time there was some awful
dead-letter loop!

"Sesquipedalian" is a word made up some decades back, just for the fun of it.
The ostensible etymology is:
           "sesqui" = one-and-a-half
           "pedal"  = having to do with feet
  "sesquipedalian"  = being a foot-and-a-half long (used of words, sentences,
                                                                      etc.)

Family:  I certainly did not mean to imply anything nasty about John or Sarah,
and I hope they take no insult.  What I want to stress is that Messrs. Bush and
Quayle (and their supporters) do not have any copyright to the idea of family.
Even the "traditional family" is far more open a concept than is currently
being touted:  prior to the 1950's, a traditional family consisted of a lot
more than 2 parents and their immediate offspring.  As I had occasion to see
when I went back to Philadelphia recently and attended my uncle's
eightysomethingth birthday, a family can be aunts, uncles, cousins, boyfriends,
girlfriends, the people down the street who drop by to check up on Mom, and a
lot of other possibilities.  In such families, people who don't marry still
belong; in fact, unlike the pseudo-traditional nuclear family of "Father Knows
Best" and "Beaver" and the like, a family doesn't throw out unacceptable
members.  The "families" who support B/Q are sometimes the same ones who drive
their gay kids out the door and into the street or to suicide.

Gabriel (in New Mexico)

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 15:28:57 -0400
From: Mark Rosenstein <mar@MIT.EDU>
Subject: Bravos

I'm still here.  There was a point in mid-summer when I thought I
might be switching jobs, which is what started the search for a new
maintainer.  As it turns out, I will be staying here, but now I'll
only recieve half-as-many email messages and have more time too.
After five years, I got pretty tired of running the list.  Many thanks
to John Perkins for taking over the list!

Now that I've got some time back, I may even go back to reading GayNet
regularly.
					-Mark

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Date: 2 Sep 92 12:35:18
From: CJones <CJones.MAILROOM@wylbur.kines.ucla.edu>
Subject: Keep calling Pete Wilson

                      Keep calling Pete Wilson
You should know by now that AB 2601, which would ban job discrimination in
California, is sitting on Pete Wilson's desk awaiting his signature.  AB 3825,
which incorporates several civil rights acts, is also awaiting his signature.
We don't know about his position on 2601, but he has always said that he would
veto 3825.  Call, write, or fax his office urging him to sign both bills.

A tally is taken and each day's results are forwarded to the Sacramento office.
 I just called the LA and SF offices and the San Francisco office told me that
the count is running about 50/50 sign/veto (LA wouldn't say).

Helpful hint:  If you call, they won't ask for your name or address (they've
never asked me), so you can call as often as you want, and you can call from
outside of California.  This is the tactic the fundies use, so why can't we?

Wanna know what to say?  Try this:  "I'd like to leave a message for the
Governor to sign AB 2601 and sign AB 3825."  Just like that, you've not only
added to the vote tally, but kept the call under one minute, therefore saving
your (or your employer's) money.

You can reach Governor Pete Wilson at:
State Capital
Sacramento, CA  95814

Sacramento office (916) 445-2841   (this line is usually busy)
San Francisco office (415) 703-2218   (these people are really nice)
Los Angeles office (213) 897-0322
Fax (916) 445-4633

 Chad Jones
 UCLA Department of Physiological Science
 cjones@kines.ucla.edu

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Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:58:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: John Medlin <jmedlin@u.washington.edu>
Subject: sesquipedalian and family
Mime-Version: 1.0

1.  Maybe Lori had trouble with the sesqui word because it was misspelled.
 According to my Webster's New World Dictionary, it means, among less
relevant things, "using, or characterized by the use of, long words."

Sesqui-etc. was never my problem with H.James; it was his interminable
sentences full of ambiguous pronoun references and his apparent inability
to get anything fully said.  Maybe I should try him again.  I remember
being slightly astonished at _Daisy Miller_ because I didn't have to read
any sentence twice or try to diagram it to find out what it meant.

2.  Gabriel, getagrip.  I was in my pseudoacademic role, discussing the
word 'family', its possibly changing meanings, and the general trend
towards weakening of words by applying/redefining them indiscriminately
(e.g. 'awesome', 'power').  I use the family-reference just as you do,
occasionally, (I prefer saying he/she is gay), and have no objection to it
as it doesn't seem to me to encroach on what I think "family" should mean.
 In any case, I don't know why you think anybody is telling you you can't
use it, or define it, as you wish, which is what your post seems to imply.
Why so irascible?

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Date: 	Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:00:31 -0700
Subject: Peaceful demonstration planned in SF re AB2601,3825,3019
From: Brad Allen <ulmo@armory.com>
Distribution: ca

[I typed much of this from a press release.  Typos are mostly mine. -Brad]

The Committee for Contemporary Family Values
Celebrating Diversity * Conquiring Igorance * Promoting Change

September 1, 1992

For immediate release

Media Contacts:	Gregory Adams or Bennett Carlson
		(415) 864-0454

		Joe van Es-Ballesteros
		Office of Supervisor Roberta Achtenberg
		(415) 554-5556

Coalition formed to peacefully address governor's anticipated veto of
civil rights legislation

	A broad coalition of leaders and organizations from San
Francisco's diverse multi-cultural communication calling themselves
The Committee for Contemporary Family Values is currently formulationg
plans for a non-violent rally and march to be held one day after
Governor WIlson's anticipated veto of AB 3825, the omnibus civil
rights bill sponsored by Assembly Speaker Willie Brown.  This
comprehensive piece of civil rights legislatioon is far-reaching in
the communities it affects as it would:  (1) prohibit discrimination
based on economic status; (2) award damages in cases of housing and
employment discrimination; (3) throw out "English-speaking only"
rules; (4) prohibit discrimination in employment and housing for
persons with physical handicaps; and (5) prohibit all arbitrary
discrimination by business establishments.

	Also at issue is the fate of other legislations impacting
civil rights, such as AB 2601, a bill that would prohibit
discrimination in employment on the basis of sexual orientation; AB
3019, a bill similar in scope abnd content to AB 101 (the lesbian/gay
rights bill vetoed by Govenor WIlson last year); and the proposed
statewide needle exchange program.  Additionally, the march and rally
will address the homophobia, divisiveness and gay-bashing that
permeated the recent Republican National Convention in Houston.
Organizers expect several prominent legislators and politicians to
send a message of solidarity to Governor Wilson by participating in
the event.

	The day following the veto of any one of the aforementioned
bills, participants will gather at 7 p.m. in Dolores Park at Church
and 20th Sts. (popularly known as "Queen's Beach") for a brief rally.
The march will begin at 7:30 p.m., and will follow Church St. north to
Market St., southwest on Market St. to Castro St., then south on
Castro St. to 18th St., where the rally will continue at the old
Hibernia Beach.  Organizers expect the event ot last for several
hours, and have given Castro area merchants advance notice of their
plans.

	The Committee, which was formed under the auspices of San
Francisco Supervisor Roberta Achtenberg over the past few days as an
attempt to create a vehicle through which to respond to WIlson's
anticipated veto, will actively take steps to encourage participants
to express their frustration and anger in a manner reminiscent of th
peaceful demonstrations led by Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.
and the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee (SNCC) during the
Civil Rights movement of the 1960s.  The Committee further plans to
work with local authorities and a team of trained safety and medical
volunteers to help provide for the personal safety of all participants
in the event.

	"Members of the lesbian and gay community are outraged that
yet again we are being treated like second-class citizens," said
Supervisor Acthenberg.  "The Governor is giving short shrift to the
civil rights of four million Californians.  Each and every time we are
ignored we will express our contempt and anger, both through peaceful,
non-violent means and in the voting booth."

	Supervisor Carole Migden also supports the efforts of The
Committee:  "I welcome the formation of The Committee for Contemporary
Family Values.  George Bush has created a vision of the morally
upstanding American that ignores the realitis of three fourths of our
nation.  Pete Wilson appears to want to perpetuate the hatred that
puts the lives of gay men and lesbians at risk.  I encourage
participation in the non-violent actions of The Committee to attempt
to restore civility in this country."

# # #

[Brad's note:

The emotion of Wilson lying to us on an election promise to sign the
likes of AB101 demanded the kind of large protests which we had for
that action.  Having Wilson veto any and/or all of these bills will no
longer be a surprise to us, since we pretty much know he will.  In
addition, many people are afraid of going to protests now that they
associate these with violence and mass arrests.  Finally, it appears
(evident from the above!) that certain political persons are seeking
credit for a nonviolent protest (this realization courtesy of G.T.),
when indeed this protest doesn't even seem nearly as important as
previous ones.

However, I feel that the elected officials should be held accountable
for their actions almost regardless of what we expect out of them.
Protests are a way to demand that accountability.  Although tainted by
personal political gain, this protest has a definite core pure purpose
of demanding human rights.  With this in mind, I think it is well
worth considering whether you are up to this protest or not.

I know one of the best ideas that got killed by Queer Nation
infighting was the one to do periodic protests at the Capitol until
the politicians did something about our rights.  This would have both
kept it a political issue that politicians couldn't get away from, and
keep up the moral, energy and attention of the protestors (in
theory!?).  These protests could even be thought of in that vein.

Finally, Jessy Greenman (of SF/BA GLAAD), as one of the three females
in a meeting of 20 people, kept making herself known, saying a few
things I'd be glad to repeat here; she said it would be a very good
idea to develop long term protest strategies (ala Queer Nation?!), so
that a sort of organized approach to this whole issue could be done.
Ah, duplicating efforts of history, and all that, but it sounds good.

I may see you there!

Brad Allen]

***
[Notes from:]
September 1, 1992
Ad Hoc Planning Meeting #3 [held at 1695 Market St 8pm]
phone 1+415-554-5556

Demonstration scheduled for [evening of day after] the Governor's
anticipated veto of civial rights legislation affecting lesbians and
gay men.

Kick-off:  Dolores Park at 7 PM.  Short program (30 minutes).

March:  Dolores Park to Market Street to Castro Street to 18th Street.

Rally:  Main Program at 18th and Castro.  Music.  Into the evening.

Medical, Media, Outreach, Sound/Stage, Police Issues, Legal
Observation logistics being planned.

Contingency plan set in case crowd heads downtown.

Still need to beef up Community Alert Team, Safety Team.


[my various notes follow:]

People with time grab voter registration forms and simply hand them
out (clipboards not needed) during protest.

"CUAV useless"  [shows how corrupt even gay SF City organizations can
be]

[Oct 11 Sunday is 1992s National Coming Out Day (NCOD), protest
planned for Sacramento Capitol]

If people gather night of any vetos, do whatever and also ask all
these people (with bullhorn & flyers?) to come back the next day.

Efforts are being made to get police cooperation on certain items;
such as asking them not to have motorcycle (trouble) cops, no batons
near crowd, etc.

For those of you who bring video cameras, please "video the law
enforcement, not the protesters", since often video footage can be
incriminating against protesters (not our purpose!)

"Every symbol of law enforcement will be draped in a force field
around the state buildings" ... "We can't get within 1000 feet of
buildings" ... says one person.  Also, Jessy suggests the idea of
people chaining themselves to the police barricades if it ever gets to
that.

If you know of good rally speakers (not the >extremely awfully boring<
ones for the AB101 protests according to many), then please call
554-5556 and tell them.

===================

An enlightening (well, funny) article from Los Angeles Times, page B3,
date unknown, titled "Gays Press for Signing of Rights Bill" ...
I want to quote a part here (the beginning):

  It was all a bit confusing.  Hissing activists waving water pistols
  protested a news conference about the protests planned for the
  expected veto of a state gay rights bill -- while non-hissing
  activists urged Gov. Pete Wilson to sign the bill and make the
  protests unnecessary.

... and later ...

  But more militant activists have other ideas.  Variously dressed in
  drag and Middle Eastern terrorist garb, several of them crashed
  Monday's press conference, arguing with speakers and vowing violence
  if Wilson rejects the new bill.

  "You are not our leaders," they yelled, identifying themselves as
  "independent activists," members of Queer Nation and ACT UP/LA.  "No
  candelight marches, torches."  "The Los Angeles riots will continue."
  [Brad's comment:  please keep riots away from ourselves; instead bring
  them to the culprit.  I.e. go to the area of the discriminators, not
  the victims, to riot!]  "I'm going to die anyway.  You think I'm going
  to sit back with a candle?" snapped one man who said he had AIDS.

***
[from green flyer, outdate by above:]

Peaceful Demonstration

There are currently three measures up for review by governor Wilson.
They are:

* AB 2601 - Intended to protect lesbians and gay men from
discriminiation in employment and housing.

* AB 3825 - an omnibus civil rights bill

* AB 3019 - very similar to AB 101

* NEEDLE EXCHANGE (Statewide Program)

The lesbian/gay/bisexual community is expecting Gov. Wilson to veto
these measures and are preparing for it.  Supervisors Robert
Achtenberg is planning a peaceful protest.  To help become involved
with the planning of this protest, go to a meeting on:

Tuesday, September 1st
8:00 p.m. at
1695 Market Street
(Project Inform)

Or, for more information, contact someone at LYRIC at (415) 703-6150

- ------------------------------------------------

[Please note that the Peaceful Demonstration contact # is 554-5556,
office of Sup. Roberta Achtenberg]

- Brad

P.S. In a companion message is a smaller announcement of another event
regarding health framework to be held on the 8th, 8pm, @ the new state
building.

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Subject: Sept 8th: "A Vigil for Lesbians and Gay Youth"
Date: 	Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:00:31 -0700
From: Brad Allen <ulmo@armory.com>
Distribution: ca

"A Vigil for Lesbians and Gay Youth"

A vigil in support of lesbian, gay, and bisexual inclusion in the
Public School Health Textbooks:

September 8th
8:00 p.m.
the New State Building
(Van Ness & McAllister Streets)

for more information, call LYRIC at (415) 703-6150

[Recently, the very old and politically "Right" members of the State
Board of Education basically asked for reversal of progress made for
the textbook content including lesbians, gays, and bisexuals, for the
next seven to ten years.]

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Date: 2 Sep 92 19:28:00 EST
From: "GEOFFREY SCHRAMM" <gschramm@gmuvax.gmu.edu>
Subject: Do you wanna funk with me?

I am still waiting for responses concerning CUNY info. Does anybody out there
have contact points for me? Puhleaze!!!!

Also, Ron... okay, I do see your point about pointing the finger so easily...
but when you see fire.... (maybe flames, in this case...:-).

Oh... I am doing an indepedent study on Sandra Bernhard and her movie
_Without You I'm Nothing_. I feel that this movie was taken too lightly
by the press and media, and that academia should pick up where these hasty
piranhas left off (i.e. racial representation, identification). Do any of
you know any good articles that would represent or discuss the different issues
in this film (only this film)? I've read her book _Portrait of a Pretty Lady_
and find that a lot of her monologues come from here.

I did see her _Giving Til It Hurts_ production in Philly last October (at the
Schubert... what a great place). Granted, it was only work in progress, but it
was still fantastic. Does anyone know if she plans to come back to the US and
do another tour (I know she is over in UK now)?

thanks....
                            geoffrey

"the funk fights fascism, racism, sexism and homophobia... YOU CANNOT FIGHT THE
FUNK." Sandra Bernhard

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