From: rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz)
Newsgroups: alt.cyberpunk,alt.industrial,alt.sex,alt.sex.bondage
Subject: Re: Perhaps we have forgotten the teachings of Jesus
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:48:58 GMT
Organization: The Armory

In article <1992Nov10.045641.17141@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> gallen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Allen) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.184120.26637@panix.com> rpowers@panix.com (Richard Powers) writes:
>>In <1992Nov9.044003.25837@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> sgreever@nyx.cs.du.edu (Steven Greever) writes:
>>
>>>The more I look at people's postings about the problems of the world in our
>>>Industrial Society, I keep thinking, perhaps we have forgotten the
>>>techings of Jesus.  We must recognize Jesus as our true savior as always
>>>to lead us into the divine light of revelation.  Yet what do you people 
>>>practice: Ugliness, Deviance, Delinquency.  Jesus can show you all your
>>>true path in life, and then maybe you can all co-operate and be friendly
>>>with each other in industry.
>>
>>>If we each followed the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you would have
>>>them do unto you", there would be no problems in society.
>>>-Sgreever
>>>E-mail me at sgreever@nyx.cs.du.edu
>>
>>If *YOU* followed the golden rule, *YOU* would not have posted this
>>anywhere besides a religious newsgroup.  I'm sure you would not have liked
>>it if someone had posted a message on a religious newsgroup saying that
>>you people would be less uptight if you... (read cyberpunk novels;listened
>>to industrial music; got laid; got tied up and laid), now would you?!
>>
>>Doesn't the golden rule include abiding by guidelines.  Like the USENET
>>guidelines which specifically mention this type of [expletive deleted]!
>>
>>You complete F@#$ing hypocrite!
>>-- 
>>rpowers@panix.com                .sig file...             ...just a .sig file.
>
>Chill out, man - just because someone expresses a view, you jump all over him.
>He posted (I think) to these newsgroups because he feels "we" in
>alt.cyberpunk, alt.industrial, and alt.sex.bondage have lifestyles quite
>contrary to the teachings of Jesus.  So he's not a hypocrite - he's
>probably quite serious in his convictions.
>
>However, I feel that Mr. Greever is dead wrong.  First of all, who really
>knows what the "teachings of Jesus" really were?  Jesus did not write the
>Bible.  The Bible was written by a couple of mortals like you and me who a
>lot of people respected, but had their stereotypes just like you and me -
>they interpreted everything under their own  temporal conditions.
>
>And that's just if you believe in the religion.  Quite relevant to
>medieval society, but our paradigms have changed.  We're becoming more
>scientific and more observant and more independent of societal clutches.
>Why not at least choose a more relevant religion to modern times, like 
>Crowleyism or something:) I mean - "do what thou wilt" - now that has
>potential!!!!!!
>-Geoff Allen
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I really think that people who say stuff like "I think we have
forgotten the teachings of Jesus" have actually only forgotten to take
their lithium carbonate and other meds. If this isn't true, then I
guess we'll have to shoot 'em.
- Steve

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