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From: afsar@lmsc.lockheed.com (Haji Firoz)
Subject: Re: kheet culture! [sci-anon-poster]
Organization: LMSC
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 20:52:29 GMT

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From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Hello [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 16 Dec 1992 01:12:38 GMT
Organization: Notgheh MajjAni, Inc.
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To: sci-anon-poster 



Hello SCI.

 
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From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: To fans of babak
Date: 12 Dec 1992 23:54:35 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mountain View, CA  USA
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In article <92347.172743RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> writes:

>   I beg to differ with your last point. Thanks to people like you, most
>   netters have the fantastic facility of being able to post anonymously.
>   So, any time they "feel" their so called "first amendment" right is in
>   jeopaerdy, they can still say what's on their mind.

good point and thanks for the plug (assuming no sarcasm was implied :) ).
[light bulb goes on]: i'll take your point and offer babak or
anyone else to take the anon-poster scripts and set them up on another
'trusted' host as well - maybe somewhere in iowa or st luis.  this
way those whod like to state their points of view without the fear of
being politically incorrect, can do so freely too...

>  I think so, too. Every one needs to loosen up a bit if you asked me.

yeah, theres enuf tension at work.  we need to slow down sci's 
blood pressure...
 
>>>P.S. who loves you baby?!
>>                    ^^^^
>>is that baby or bAby?
>>who loves bAby, as in bAbakeh khodemoon?  we all do!
>>
>   I meant it like as in dear, but it's also a suitable short name for bAbak.
>   I wonder if he actually uses "bAby"?

i was only kidding... i dont know if he uses bAby for short,
but mahin does!  i think she uses bAby baby...

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: 00h0maleki@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: help
Keywords: E-Mail with Iran
Date: 19 Dec 92 04:02:32 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's


  
    I would like to know how to communicate with users in Iran through
electronic mail.  Thanks.  Saber Haghihati Maleki
From: hasan@cs.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Subject: Re: Muslims - First Line Of Action
Keywords: Hope many other Indians come out of the closet....
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 04:10:54 GMT

My dear Deepak Bose,

You still have not answered my question regarding the "Peshabiness" in
Hinduism, beginning with your Indian Prime Minister, whose confession
brought out the dark side of India and Hinduism in general.

Also, you continue to transliterate Hindi in English alphabet, and I can
only conclude from that either you are out of India as a refugee out of the
black hole, known to us as Calcutta, and so improvished that you never got
the benefit of good manners and breeding, were you fortunate like most of
us.

Therefore, I shall not pursue my question further. By the nature of your
response, you have given enough hints towards people to draw their own
conclusions.

Bye, Bye,

and try to have a happy new year !

Shams Hasan

ps. try not to imbibe on yellow colored liquids, instead try coca cola
with ice, it will taste much better, believe me!
From: Vida Tigrani <veeduh@leland.stanford.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Language
Date: 12 Dec 1992 04:07:57 GMT
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: world
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X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.0

In order to learn Persian, I have been studying from the books that
Iranian grade school students use.  They have books for 1st through 6th
(at least).  The format is very good:  Each chapter consists of a story
followed by a list of vocabulary and some questions on grammar and
comprehension.  It's a very good exercise and helps to build vocabulary.  

Contact:

Ketab Corp.
6742 Van Nuys Blvd., 1st floor									
Van Nuys, CA 91405
tel: 818/908-0808
fax: 818/908-1457

1387 Westwood Boulevard
Los Angeles, CA 90024
tel: 310/477-7477
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: satan666 <satan-@halcyon.com>
Subject: Re: Women's pos. & Ben Mahjoor
Originator: bbs@halcyon.com
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:16:33 GMT

mkarimna@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mellissa Namazi) writes:

> In article <sehari.724573447@class1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Se
> ri) writes:
> >In <8kewVB1w165w@halcyon.com> satan <satan666@halcyon.com> writes:
> >
> >>javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad) writes:
> >
> >> Hey lejan! How's SCI's biggest namard hanging? So you thought you could
> >>get rid of me. Huh? Punk? Telling by this little piece of khak that got
> >>your mom to write it's still evident that your a traitor to Iranians all
> >>over the world. I was reading how you and the rest of your jendahs,
> >
> >>especially the little taki Paki, conspire to ETC ETC ETC
> 
> >>Satan.
> >
> >We should all do our best, that people like Javad never get to power.
> >If these people get to power, people lose all their freedom.  For example,
> >as you observed in your own case, they fail you just because you expressed
> >your opinion.  What is next?  They get your wife for their leader, if you
> >express yourself and tell them that they full of it?  No wonder they call
> >them hypocrite.
> >
> >                      With highest regards,
> >                           Babak   Sehari.
> >--
> 
> Babak Agha,
> 
> I can't believe you responded SERIOUSLY to this guy:)
> 
> Mellissa


 Thanks Babak! It's good to know that at least one person reconizes 
Khanem Javad for the punk he is.

P.S.

 Melissa, shut the fuck up! How would you feel if some koskesh took away 
your First Admendment rights?

Satan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: pdm@pour.b15.ingr.com (mohawk)
Subject: where to get LaTex to use ArabTex
Reply-To: pdm@pour.b17d.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, Alabama
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:53:09 GMT


	Dear Freinds:

	I downloaded the arabtex yesterday and then I realized that one must have
        a product called LaTex to use ArabTex as an extended product.  So I have
        no idea where to get LaTex and how to use it on unix or pc.

	I would appreciate anybody out there to give me some hints.  I also tried
        to get INTEXT the persian version and the ftp site's password "mark" didn't
        work.  If you have any ideas about that also, I would be happy to use it.

						Thanks a bunch guys
						Chaker
						Mohammad H. Rahmatipour
						

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: J10B000 <J10B@UNB.CA>
Subject: Re: Woman's pos and Pesar Ammos Questions
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:45:36 GMT

Hi, Behnam. Here are some issues that came to me after reading your post
1) Prostitution during Shah's regime was quite under protection of the
government. So many police cruises were there just for protecting the
INDUSTRY. A big city like that couldn't be there by itself. Shah's regim
could shut its doors but instead they protected.

2) Please let all the post readers know about the source of your first
mail about sigheh. You know that we can't simply accept every news with-
out knowing the source  and a news without a credited source is ROUMOR.

3) Like you I don't agree with unlimited investment of foreign cos. But
for your info. Canada's foreign debt started in 1982 and right now is
more than 470 billion dollars. ( read TIMES, recent issue.) So Iran's
14 billion debt ( IF this figure is correct!) is not a world record.

4) You accused Iranian women's of being inactive and not stugglling for
their rights and now you say that they are doing that. People don't
change like that! The only explanation that could clarify this controver
-sy in your posts is that they've been active and they are but simply
not in the way you're showing it but in the way of chalanging fot thier
country's independence and well being. Pesar Amoo
P.S. I'm glad that you've not been offended and could pursue the discu-
     ssion.

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From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re; Forbidden Poems II [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 14 Dec 1992 01:46:30 GMT
Organization: Notgheh MajjAni, Inc.
Distribution: world
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To: sci-anon-poster 



>>Some time ago, I posted the following but it did not apear in our site.
>>Here is another try.

>did we leave some dashes starting in column 1 by any chance?  the msg
>body (original) may still be in my /tmp, if youd like i can go check.

I think the original article got posted.  I saw a response to it. But thanks
anyway.

>actually, i did see your original post on exodus at sun (and enjoyed
>it very much!  hAdi is a national treasure.  to me hes like the
>johny carson of iran).

Yes I agree. I miss reading his poems.  Someone  forghani@condor.ccrit.doc.ca
said that he publishes a paper.  I hope Mr. Behdad Forghani posts some of
Mr. Khorsandi's poems.

Morad

P.S.  You were correct about the dashes.  I'll be more careful next time.

 
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From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Golden Opportunity (Re: Women's position and Pesar Amoo)
Organization: Special Events
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:55:22 GMT

In article <21Yc02Cj2fl401@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> bxm50@pars.amdahl.com 
(Ben Mahjoor) writes:

ghAsem chetori!  Nice to hear from you.  I tried to send email but somehow
my message didn't make it.

>the worst criminal act of this government. The naive act of reduction
>in the personnel, execution of thousands of unreplaceable Generals and 
>experienced officers, was considered as an "invitation" to the worst 
>wolfe among the pack to attack. Iraq, as we all witnessed, never missed
>this golden opportunity.
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ben, with the rate you are going, I am afraid you will soon be joining the
rest of us to 'bahrehmand' from the "Golden Opportunity" in the form of a
"pas gardani" [(c) Seyyed, 92] at Mehrabad Airport.  Do not forget your
pijAmeh either!  :-)

Sorry, I couldn't help it.  This was all folks!

Regards,
hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 322-8056
From: bxm50@pars.amdahl.com (Ben Mahjoor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Mojahedins and Army (Saied's response)
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:24:23 GMT
Organization: Amdahl corp.

>>
>>And our dear Mojahedin, when they were Khomeini's dear children, 
>>kept on insisting that:
>
>>	 "The most urgent work we have to do is to destroy [ EnhelAl ]
>>	  the armed forces. The first step of a Revolutionary change,
>>	  in our opinion, must start with the Army. Otherwise do not  
>>	  speak of the Revolution, specially an Islamic Revolution". 
>>	
>>	  [ Speech of Masood Rajavi, Tehran, 5 Esfand 1357 ].
>
>
>For the record (and for the benefit of people such as Mr.
>Mahjoor), the rationale for statements such as the above
>was that an army that openly fires on people and kills as
>many as 7,000 in one place (Jaleh Sq.) cannot be trusted.
>You must continue your discussion with the complementary
>statements by Mr. Rajavi. 
>The Mojahedin continously insisted that the Shah's army must be disintegrated 
>   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>and  a new army be re-struactured by the revolution forces so
>       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>that it can trusted.
>

That's precisely my point. And of course these intelligent "amateur"
politicians thought that Iraq, with a trained army, will just sit around
and wait for Iran's army to be re-constructed by "revolution forces".

			- Behnam
A prayer for Iran:
Oh God ! Please protect me from my "friends". I know how to deal with my
enemies myself !
From: bxm50@pars.amdahl.com (Ben Mahjoor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Woman's pos and Pesar Ammos Questions
Date: 11 Dec 92 23:23:32 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corp.

> 
> Re: Women's position in IRAN.
> I've got some questions for Behnam Jan.
> 1) Recalling Shahre Now and its equivalents in other big cities in Iran
> during Shah's regime tell me who was pioneer in PROSTITUTION INDUSTRY?
> 
> 2) How much Amdahl's partners in IRAN lost after Shah's fall? Does all
> your crying have something to do with this losses? Did those partners
> 
> 3) What's happened that the Iranian women who never struggled for their
> rights ( I believe they did during Shah's regime ) once have awakened
> and started doing it?
> P.S. Don't be offended. Just answer the questions!  Take Care
> Pessar Amoo. Canada
> 

Pessar Ammo jan (for the lack of a better name):
I try to answer your questions. All answers are IMHO, of 
course.

1). Prostituion during Pahlavi's regime existed, just like in any other big 
cities in this world. But in no other places in the world it is "legal" and 
"legitimized" and "encouraged" by regilion leaders and the government itself, 
except in Iran.  This treatment of Iranian women as "sex object" is encouraged 
by the government. You maye call it "sighe", but any where else it is called
"prostitution". 

2). I have been employed by Amdahl for the last 5 years. I have no idea 
what they gained or lost in Iran. And I am not in a position to find out
so I cannot answer this particular question of yours.
But I can provide you with the following
observation as far as foreign investment in Iran, past and present, is
concerned. During the Shah's regime, 51% of the stocks of a foreign
corporation HAD TO BE owned by Iranian investors. This way, a foreign 
corporation could not shut its doors any time it wanted to, and Iranians were
part of the decision making process (actually what they said had to go
because they owned the majority of the stocks). Now, our generous
mollas in Iran have passed a law that gives 100% of the stocks to 
foreign investors. Basically, they are in such a desperate foreign
investors that they beg them to come and invest and hire cheap Iranians
labor. It is interesting that, because of 15 billion dollar debt that
Iran has acquired in just 14 years (a record time in the world), World Bank
still considers investment in Iran as highly risky. And recently, the 
government of Iran has offered the whole state of Kerman, to be leased 
to a group of British and French investors. The lease includes full use
of Kerman's natural resources for whatever use they [ the investors [ fit.

3). What happened ? They became "sighe", "sex object", treated as bunch
of zombies that must be told to what to wear, what to see, where to go
and so on. I think this kind of treatment is reason enough.

I hope I have answered your questions. 

                         - Behnam

p.s. I am not offened at all by you
questions. 
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From: bashir@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Noushin Bashir)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Shab-e Yaldaa
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:32:54 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Originator: bashir@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU

Hello All,

The night of Dec. 21 is Shab-e Yaldaa (so I've heard). Isn't there any
light one can shed on this tradition? Like its history, customs, and
etc? I wonder if the subject was already discussed on SCI, in which
case, I would appreciate it if you know of any related articles and their
whereabouts. 

Also, would you know what exactly the Sal-e No's Tahvil time is? Anyone
with a 73 calendar?

					Thanks,
					Noushin :)
-- 
A human being's first responsibility is to shake hands with himself.
						- Henry Winkler
From: smortaz (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: question [sci-poster]
Date: 16 Dec 1992 01:20:14 GMT
Organization: SCI Friends & Family, Inc.
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does anyone know whether the series 'adventures of young indiana jones'
got cancelled or not?  i hope not... it was one of few shows worth
watching.  what this to do with sci i have no idea...

 
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From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Wakeup Call
Date: 14 Dec 92 02:58:43 GMT
Organization: Let the dead bury the dead

In article <linpihINNdl1@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> >>>>>> Anonymous writes:

[This is AghA morAd-e gol - HFN]

>This reminds me of some of the communists in Iran.  They believed
>that the Soviet Union was the paradise.  Very few of them had ever
>visited the Soviet Union.  They were ready to justify any of the
>Soviet's wrongdoing.

How true!  At AMUT, we used to ask them the same questions.  'afsoos' of
all those tea cups we drank together at 'chAy-khAneh' and they still
wouldn't want to even consider the possibility that the system of the then
USSR was an already bankcrupt one waiting to be falling apart at its right
time.

>.  .   .  He would not buy my argument that when he was in Iran,
>people were scared of talking to him (I would have been scared,
>with his thick black

>I do not know what It would take to wake up such a person.

AghA morAd, I am your nokar.  Please let them stay in their dream.  These
people 'bidAr nashodeh mAro dAghoon kardan,' Alas the day they wake up
too!  :-)  :-)

Regards,
Hooshyar F. Naraghi
bavafa@netcom.com
(415) 322-8056
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From: mkarimna@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mellissa Namazi)
Subject: Re: AIDS in Iran
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:12:13 GMT

In article <sehari.724370078@class1.iastate.edu> you write:
>In <1992Dec14.184650.10664@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha
Javad) writes:
>
>   Agha Javad's article deleted

>Maybe, one of the best ways to control this problem from entering Iran
>is to test everyone, who enters Iran.  If one found to be positive,
>she/he should be sent to quarantine, in case he/she is Iranian, otherwise
>deny entery to him/her.  Other measure could be mandatory Aids testing
>of all the people on the yearly bases, and infected people should be send
>to quarantine.  I know it is expensive, but it is effective.
>
     Babak, what do you imagine these "quarantine" centers would be like?
Do you really believe that those people placed in quarantine would have
a decent standard of living?


>Finally, maybe a High tax (some where around %90 of income) on all the
>un-married people over 21 could force our people to lower their expectations
>and get married.

Don't you think that one should have relatively high expectations when
considering the choice of a mate?  ie.  Theorehtically, you will spend
the rest of your life with this person.


>This money should be returned to them if they get married
>within 3 years.  Off course, this might lead to high divorce rate.  Therefor,
>the marriages that last less than 10 years, should return all the previous
>years tax reduction and repay signal tax rate (%90) for all those years.
>Also, other social privileges of a signal person might be subject to
>suspension, such as drivers license, ..., if this does not reduce the
>signal rate over 21 by  %90.  I guess, someone should become bad again,
>to save our society.
>

     Fianlly, do you really believe that marriage=monogomy?  What is there
to prevent these men and women from engaging in sexual intercourse with
partners other than their mates?  How will increasing the "marriage ratio"
prevent the spread of aids?

     I think you should give a bit more thought to some of the solutions
you propose for society.  Ideas are fine if they can be potentially
effective.  Think also about the fact that you are proposing active
discriminatory policies against many people (single people as well as
those with aids).


>                        With highest regards,
>                             Babak   Sehari.
>--


Regards,

Mellissa Namazi
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