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From: cython@ais.org (Tim Devlin)
Subject: Re: Considering switching to IBM
Organization: UMCC
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 06:58:31 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.035238.25148@seas.gwu.edu> gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington) writes:
>ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>>gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington) writes:
>>> Of course I read the whole post.  Of course a 486 system is cheaper than an
>>> equivalent A3000.  If you cannot afford an A3000, then don't buy one.  If you
>>> do not like the Amiga, then ignore it.  Simple.
>>> 
>>	Why is the A3000 so expensive though?  I wanted to upgrade to it from
>>  my A500 but the 486 was just to good of a deal.  Commodore has the low end
>>  priced very well, why isn't the high end a better deal?  
>
>Yes, that is a good question.  It is one I cannot answer without using some
>less than complementary remarks about Commodore's management.  I would love
>to able to afford an A3000 with 28MHz 040, 24-bit graphics, and a 16-bit
>audio board.  I cannot, so I may well get a 50MHz 486.  Intel PC prices are
>dropping too fast to resist.  Too bad, though; I want an Amiga.
>
>-- Gerald

you guys are kidding right?  You really don't know why an A3000 cost more
then 3rd party 486 cloans??  sigh.....

1: It cost CBM *ALOT* more to produce the A3000 then it does your run of the
mill cloan company to produce a 486 cloan.  The hardware that goes into a 48
cost less then that in an A3000, as the cloan market is VAST and thus prices
are lower on componet parts.

2: Commodore is the *ONLY* company making the A3000, thus they have no
compition from other companies making A3000 cloans, and can thus charge
whatever they like for an A3000.

3: CBM is a Major computer manufacturer, not some fly by night cloan
company.  Don't you also think the OTHER major players in the business are
also priceing their computers too high?  for example, do you think Apple
makes the Mac cheep? or does IBM make its 486 based PS/2's a real ease to
afford??  Hell no!!! REAL IBM 486 boxes and Apple Macs cost ALOT of money,
even more then the A3000.

There are other reasons as well, but I think you get the gist of the
problem, as long as there is massive compition in the IBM PC market, you are
ALWAYS going to get cheeper computers then you would get if IBM were the
only ones making an 040 based PC.
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM is a game machine company
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn V1.29 4/10/92 (Beta) by Mike Schwartz
Date: 14 Apr 92 08:51:02 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <-5BL-?D@ais.org> cython@ais.org (Tim Devlin) writes:
>In article <46465@dime.cs.umass.edu> barrett@astro.cs.umass.edu (Daniel Barrett) writes:
>>In article <mykes.2549@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG> mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz) writes:
>>
>>	Actually, it has the same number of slots as the A3000.  But it
>>does have more internal expansion space for 3.5" and 5.25" devices,
>>and that's what made it attractive to me.
>
>What??? same number of slots as the A3000??  The spec. sheet I saw said and
>in fact showed a picture, of the A3000T with 5 Zerro III slots, and 4 AT
>slots.  The A3000 only has 4 Zorro III slots and 2 AT slots.
>

The A3000 has 4 slots, 2 of which are AT compatible.  All 4 are Zorro III.
Sounds like the 3000T has 9 slots and the 3000 has 6...


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: Guesses at the new chip set (was Re: MB Interview)
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:21:41 GMT

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
:    If your company is putting off introducing systems based on new chip sets
: because the memories required are too expensive, then your company needs to
: find a different excuse.
: ---
: | Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
: --------------------------------------------------
:        <Insert your favorite one-liner here>
: 

MM-hmm.  And now we've subscribed to the "Ram costs as much as Paper
Clips" school of thought...  That is expensive...  comparatively.

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From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip 'AdaX' Sauls)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Mac OS just sucks -- "ease of use" = "lack of freedom"
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:51:34 GMT
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science

In article <1992Apr8.130954.10847@ms.uky.edu> justin@mik.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan) writes:
>Rob Healey writes
>> 	Hmm, Publish & Subscript is message passing... The thing with
>> 	AREXX is that one or more apps can CONTROL one or more other
>> 	apps through the ports in addition to passing data, messages,
>> 	pointer, etc.
>
>Are you blind? Publish & Subscribe is data transfer.. AppleEvents is  
>application/system/process control.. The two work in perfect harmony, 
>they just go by two different names.

Why is there a need for two different names?  I thought that the Macintosh
philosophy was to make the operation of a computer less complex...

>> 	Both of these are the fault of the application, not the scaling
>> 	technology in AmigaDOS. It could also be said that the Amiga
>> 	doesn't need the Mac's outline support because the Amiga gets
>> 	along just fine with IT'S support.
>
>So what if it does? It's still nonstandard and can cause headaches and  
>surprises when it goes to a PostScript printer.

Could you be more specific?  I have had no problem at all going to PostScript
and non-PostScript printers, but you seem to be aware of problems that I have
not yet encountered.  But then again, I have only been using Amigas since 
1986, so I obviously have no idea what I am talking about.

>> 	By the way, I can scale type 1, Speedo and other scalable font
>> 	technologys under X11R5 on my Amiga. Be careful that you say
>> 	AmigaDOS when you make sweeping statements like this. The X11R5
>> 	contrib area has code that lets any X capable system do font
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   
>> 	scaling with the standard X11R5 font scaler.
>
>So what does this have to do with Amiga? I can do it on a Sun, on an RS/6000,
>on an SGI, on a 3090-600J, and many other machines we have here running X11R5.
>What makes the Amiga unique?

Why don't you try reading what the paragraph says?  Never once is anything 
said about the Amiga being unique in its ability to run X11R5.

BTW, how is your perverted little psychology experiment going?

Skip Sauls                     //    Graduate Student & Instructor
skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu    \X/     CS Department, University of Mississippi
From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Intel HW
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn V1.29 4/10/92 (Beta) by Mike Schwartz
Date: 17 Apr 92 11:55:50 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <30379@cbmvax.commodore.com> daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
>In article <1992Apr11.060632.14773@ux.acs.umn.edu> har@ux.acs.umn.edu (--SeebS--) writes:
>
>>Perhaps Mr. Haynie can help us out here... What *is* the maximum airspeed
>>of an unladen A3000?
>
>African or European?

Depends on whether CBM sells more Amigas in Africa than the US...


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From: Mike_Whalen@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Mike Whalen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: New .advocacy groups
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:11:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: agwbbs.Mike_Whalen.0bwo
Organization: The Amiga GateWay BBS * New Orleans, La.

In a message dated Mon 13 Apr 92 22:34, Borres@aix.rpi.edu (steven D. Borre
wrote:

 BDB> Folks, c.s.a.advocacy is no longer alone. The Next people have just
 BDB> voted
 BDB> in favor of a comp.sys.next.advocacy (among other groups). In
 BDB> addition, 
 BDB> there is talk about an os2.advocacy group. 

  Alright! Let's do like the IBM and Mac users do here and go bash NeXTs on
their advocacy group. Why? Because it doesn't make sense.. that's why!


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From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Re: Considering switching to IBM
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 04:47:08 GMT

w8ts@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (M Crevatin AMIGA #1) writes:
>Gerald, I will agree with you on being able to add the enhanced chipset at
>any time in a 2000 or 500 but it's not as simple as popping out a chip and
>then replacing it with the new one...the architecture is different also...

True.  It is almost that simple, but not quite.

>Second, the 040 for the 2000 is not cheap, to make any 040 accelorator
>upgrade worthwhile you *MUST* have the memory and the Hard-Drive on the
>same board, [...]
>Owning a 2000 myself I have looked into these things and I think what I
>said makes sense...but if it doesn't I'm sure someone will *flame* me and
>point it out :^)

I am looking into these things, too.  I am fairly certain that I will be
getting a 50MHz 486, but I still want a more powerful Amiga.  The A3000
is out of my range, so I've been considering the A2000/040 setups.  The
system has the power I need, so the issue is still price.  Anyway, it is
good to have some useful feedback; who cares if people flame?

-- Gerald
From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: AppleEvents, how to they work?
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:57:29 GMT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

re article by Espen H. Koht: Commodore has a product that when Commodore
gets it the rest of the way out the door, seems to do pretty much what
QuickTime does but with more pixel and faster animation, called CDXT.  As
for digitizing, QuickTime doesn't digitize, it operates on images given to
it to play with......  separate hardware and software is necessary for
digitizing, the same is true with CDXL.   [should be CDXL above, not CDXT].
// :Like I've said, I saw QuickTime operating on a Mac IIsi and wasn't all
that impressed, except that Apple hyped it and put into words of two
syllables or less how th ordinary Mac-oid might use it.......    


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From: 871579l@aucs.acadiau.ca (Todd Lowe)
Subject: Re: Beer (was Re: New Amigas Announced!!!!)
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 02:48:34 GMT

kdarling@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Kevin Darling) writes:

>Gentlemen... please at least change the subject heading if you're going
>to discuss just beer all weekend long.   Especially when that current
>"New Amigas" header is bound to draw unsuspecting readers in :-)

Good idea.  Beer doesn't fit in this group, but since *SO MANY* other
subjects don't either, I'm not gonna complain. 

As for my favorite it's a local Maritime Canadian Ale called Keith's.
Great beer.  I also drink Moosehead, another local brand, but I beleive
that some other countries carry it.  I know a friend who worked in Sarnia
Ontario once told me he had to go to Michigan to buy it since in Canada it
is only available in the Maritimes (Atlantic provinces for that fella that
posted from Newfoundland :-)  Kind of funny having to go to the States from
Canada to buy a Canadian beer.

Anyway, enough bandwidth use by me . . .

Cheers,

Todd

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From: bleys@tronsbox.UUCP (Bill Cavanaugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Considering switching to IBM
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:49:23 GMT
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.

In article <dano.703116039@srl06.cacs.usl.edu> dano@usl.edu (Dan Stephenson) writes:
>bleys@tronsbox.UUCP (Bill Cavanaugh) writes:
>
>>In article <dano.702926807@nasa08.cacs.usl.edu> dano@usl.edu (Dan Stephenson) writes:
>>>
>>>And, I think it is encouraging that it is assumed OS/2 2.0 will run ifne
>>>with a 386SX CPU. BUt I am not sure what Mhz the PS/1 runs at.
>>>
>>>_Dan
>
>>OS/2 1.<whatever> runs fine on a six-year-old PS-70 with four megs.
>
>SO? What in the hell does that have to do with PS/1's??
>Note: you posted not understanding the original conversation.
> 
>-Dan

Nope, I understood perfectly.  The new PS/1 machines are faster than
the old PS-70.  The old machine is an six-year-old '386 that runs at
15 Mhz on a good day with a tail wind.  The new machine is a '386SX
that runs at 16 Mhz, and that's got more than a half-decade of
debugging behind it.

THAT'S "what in the hell" that has to do with PS/1's.

bill
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From: bleys@tronsbox.UUCP (Bill Cavanaugh)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Considering switching to IBM
Date: 11 Apr 92 01:21:38 GMT
Organization: Xanadu Enterprises Inc.

In article <dano.702926807@nasa08.cacs.usl.edu> dano@usl.edu (Dan Stephenson) writes:
>
>And, I think it is encouraging that it is assumed OS/2 2.0 will run ifne
>with a 386SX CPU. BUt I am not sure what Mhz the PS/1 runs at.
>
>_Dan

OS/2 1.<whatever> runs fine on a six-year-old PS-70 with four megs.


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From: bruce@zuhause.MN.ORG (Bruce Albrecht)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  Mac OS just sucks -- "ease of use" = "lack of freedom"
Distribution: world
Date: 6 Apr 92 07:36:01 CST
Organization: Society to Stamp Out Bogus Organizations

In article <471@kas.helios.mn.org> rhealey@kas.helios.mn.org (Rob Healey) writes:
>In article <bmccnnll.702056014@unix1.tcd.ie>, bmccnnll@unix1.tcd.ie (Barry McConnell) writes:
>|>>Mac OS does not have a RexxMaster to support interprocess communication. 
>|> Amiga OS does not have System 7's Publish & Subscribe, which is a different
>|> way of transferring messages and data between applications.
>|> 
>	Hmm, Publish & Subscript is message passing... The thing with
>	AREXX is that one or more apps can CONTROL one or more other
>	apps through the ports in addition to passing data, messages,
>	pointer, etc.

Actually, with Soft-Logik's Hotlinks, you've got the equivalent of Publish &
Subscribe, albeit with fewer applications supporting it.  I don't know how many
apps support P&S yet, but it's probably still under 20.
>
>|>>Mac OS does not support  AGFA-Compugraphic Bullet Font technology.
>|> It does not need to; it has its own Outline Font support, which appears to
>|> work a lot better than on the Amiga... (No mucking around in Fountain to get
>|> the size you want, and then re-load the application which needs it so it
>|> recognises the new font.)
>|> 

This is because the font-scaling is a new feature, and most apps were developed
before it was released.  Some updated apps are aware of the outline font features
and don't require Fountain to build the font.
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From: jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel)
Subject: Re: Jarkko "knows" 040's faster than 486.
Organization: Molecular Simulations, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:41:22 GMT

lindblad@cc.helsinki.fi writes:
>>
>> Wrong, Peter.  Read the benchmarks that appeared here a while ago.  The
>> 25MHz 486 is slightly *faster* than the 25MHz 68040 in integer performance,
>> but significantly slower in FP, although not 3-5 times.  Please look it
>> up; maybe it'll make you stop posting bullsh*t with such arrogant conviction.
>
>Wrong Jerry.
>Do not belive in benchmarks so blindly. Benchmarks are too dependent on other
>things (compilers, external caches etc.).
>

Oh, and I suppose you know better.  All that benchmarking stuff people do
is just a waste of time, right?  Jarkko knows buest, I guess.

>
>Why don't we look at some other things:
>
>68040 instrucions are in average perhaps 30-50% faster than equivalent 486
>instrcutions while instruction set on both is comparable.
>

Let's see proof for this.  BTW, the instruction sets are *not* comparable.

>
>68040 has 8 general purpouse registers and 7 general purpouse data registers
>(all 32 bit). Didn't 486 have 2 *general purpouse* registers and several
>others? That means more register shuffle on 486.
>

It doesn't mean "more register shuffle".  It means a wholly different
approach to using the registers.  Some frequently-used instructions,
for example, may change the values of three different registers; on a
Moto, this would require extra instructions.

>
>68040 has copyback mode on it's data cache.
>

This *is* a valid point.

>
>68040 can perform both floating point and integer instrcutions at the same
>time. Can 486 do the same (I don't know)?
>

Yes.

>
>68040 has separate data & instruction cache, both are 4k. 80486 only one
>unified cache of 8k.
>

Allright.  I want to see some real examples where this results in a noticeable
difference.

>
>FMUL on 486 takes 16 clocks, on 68040 it takes 5 clocks. FADD takes 10 on 486,
>3 on 68040, DIV takes 73 on 486, 37 on 68040. To me it seems that floating
>points seem to go 3 times faster. Also to much hated MFLOPS: Intel claims it's
>486@25 to have 1 MFLOPS while Morotola claims 3.5 MFLOPS @ 25 MHz. And floating
>point instructions are quite similar on both floating point units.
>

Floating point *is* better on the Moto.  No question.

>
>Jarkko Lindblad
>
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From: jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH)
Subject: Re: UNIX for the Amiga
Keywords: Amiga, UNIX, BSD
Organization: McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:22:09 GMT

In article <cseric.703105329@knuth> cseric@knuth.mtsu.edu (Mr. Eric Buckner) writes:
>
>After reading several of the other comp.sys.COMPUTER I have noticed a
>strong influx of BSD versions of UNIX for those platforms.  So what I
>want to know is who is working on one for the Amiga.  If the reply is

Matt Dillon (dillon@overload.berkeley.ca.us, unless it's changed...maybe he's
reading, but if not someone else around here surely has a solid address for
him) was reported to be working on a full port of BSD to the Amiga.  I don't
know what kind of release date is expected, although I'm looking forward to
seeing it.  Word is that it will be total freeware.

>no one, then shame on us.  UNIX is where it is at and it is where the
>Amiga needs to be.  If anyone knows where I can get a complete source

Well, UNIX would be a nice thing to have, and UNIX is a useful thing, but
we shouldn't confuse it with "great googeley moogeley super duper zippy
way cool things".  That's the category that Lisp belongs to. :-)  Actually
speaking of these topics there was a recent posting by Harold Abelson of the
MIT AI lab looking for applicants to a position working on the development
of the Scheme Lisp dialect.  A qualification was "extensive experience 
programming in the UNIX environment, hopefully with enough good taste not
to think of this in itself as a great achievement."  A funny quote, please
no pro-UNIX flames against me...I really don't mind it, and will agree
that it's powerful, widely available, and quite functional, although in 
places a little gross.

>listing of the BSD stuff I will happily work with someone on porting 
>it to the Amiga.  Of course I don't want to do it alone, I would be
>insane to want to to that.  If you have any information then please

Yes, you would be insane. :-)  If you know somebody with a copy of DICE, or
can get ahold of it, it will almost surely contain the info needed to find
him at present.  I think he's on Regal Road in Berkeley, but I can't give
you any more resolution than that.

>E-Mail it to meand I will summarize when it comes in.
>
>Thanks
>Eric Buckner
>Senior Programmer/Analyst
>Ingram Periodicals, INC.
>
>knuth!cseric   or cseric@knuth


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: aissmith@kraken.itc.gu.edu.au (Doug Smith)
Subject: Re: The TRUE Amiga d00d!
Organization: ITC, Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:17:53 GMT

Mike_Whalen@agwbbs.new-orleans.LA.US (Mike Whalen) writes:

>  SO remember, if you like the Amiga good. But do it for a reason.

What I would like to know is "How come comp.sys.amiga.a is FULL of IBM
nerds????  Whats wrong with the comp.sys.ibm.* areas?  Too dead, like
their machines and OS's?"

>Huh?

What?


See ya,
Smithy.

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From: nradov@jarthur.claremont.edu (Slippery Jim)
Subject: Re: EISA vs. ZorroIII
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:48:06 GMT

In article <Paula_Lieberman.04oi@amicol.UUCP> Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman) writes:
>There's another way to get an EISA or MicroChannel machine with high speed
>32 bit bus -- use a third party product which has its own bus, like Data
>Translations' DT-Connect.......
>

Some clone makers are now starting to support the Localbus standard with a
slot or two on their motherboards.  This should give a lot faster graphics
performance, and I imagine you could stick other stuff on it as well.
-Nick Radov (nradov@jarthur.claremont.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: mhw42412@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Hwa Wu)
Subject: Re: EISA vs. ZorroIII
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:28:28 GMT

Hi,
	If I'm not mistaken, EISA runs at about 8 Mhz.  MCA (IBM's 32 bit
architecture) runs at about 1/2 the speed of the cpu.  So a 33 Mhz 486
would have 16.5 Mhz slots ( I could be completely and utterly wrong ).
	So the only way a PC could get 33 Mhz, 32-bit wide busses is to
get an actual IBM PS/2 with a 66 Mhz processor.
.