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From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: Pioneer CLD-S201 question
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:20:46 GMT

Hi all,

    I just got the latest Crutchfield catalog in the mail today, and their
description of the CLD-S201 says that it "holds last image on screen when
changing sides".

    Can anyone tell me how it does this?  The price is $399 and it says
nothing about field store (at that price?), so I'm understandably curious.

    Also, while I'm at it, I have a CLD-M80 purchased from a friend who
had broken the remote, so could some kind soul with one do me a favor and
tell me exactly what buttons are on it?  I just bought a Fox 800 remote
that controls the basic functions, but I'm thinking about still ordering
a replacement remote from Pioneer.

					Thanks,

--
    Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
One of the richest men in the world made his billions selling a toy "operating
system" that is more accurately described as a glorified bootstrap loader.
                                                  -- Phil Karn
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: fmaster@ravel.udel.edu (Fred A Masterson)
Subject: new line of panasonic svhs?
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:54:45 GMT

Panasonic has a relatively new line of consumer S-VHS machines, the
bottom of the line being the PV-S4266 (list price = $599 I think), the
middle being the PV-S4270, and the top of the line being the PV-S4280. 
Does anyone have any information &/or personal experience on/with any of
these units?  I am particularly interested in the "no frills" S4266. 

Thanks very much in advance for your email! 

     Fred Masterson                      fmaster@ravel.udel.edu
     University of Delaware
From: brooksj@terminus.umd.edu (Joanne Brooks)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Looking for Pioneer 2090
Keywords: in search of
Date: 30 Aug 92 20:00:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Maryland, Dept. of Good Guys and Cool Stuff


Are there any places (dealers or mail order) that still have CLD-2090's for
sale?  I called up several local places (Philadelphia), and they said they had
them on sale and in stock, but when I get there, they never had any....



later daze...
jojo

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Newsgroups: rec.video,misc.consumers
From: kaplanr@knish.shearson.com (Roger Kaplan)
Subject: Re: Video Tape Encoding Signal
Organization: Lehman Brothers
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 22:38:39 GMT

In article <1992Aug26.153919.14150@twisto.eng.hou.compaq.com> parikh@sirocco.eng.hou.compaq.com (Vijay Parikh) writes:
>The movie tapes that one generally rents from video stores have
>some kind of signal encoded on the tape so it can't be recorded
>perfectly.  One would always get video and audio loss on the
>tape recorded from the rented one.
>
>The above is totally understandable but why it does not happen
>when the same movie is recorded from TV broadcast programs
>(either from network channels or premium channels such as HBO/
>Cinemax/Showtime ,etc.).  One does not get any loss of either
>video/audio signals in the recorded tape using this approach.
>
>Do the TV channels play special tape w/o signal encoded?
>Does the signal not get transferred thru' air/cable?
>
>thanks,
>
>Vijay Parikh

The answer lies in resolution.  By resolution, I don't mean the
number of scan lines, or vertical resolution.  That's fixed by
the NTSC standard.  What I mean is horizontal resolution, or how
fast (and accurately) the electron stream can go from black to
white and back as it traces across the scan line, and therefore, how 
detailed the horizontal resolution is.

The resolution you see is limited by the weakest link in the chain.
If you have a 400-line s-vhs vcr, but your TV can only display 320
lines, you'll see 320 lines.  If you have a super-duper pro tv
which can handle 600 lines, and you're using EP mode of a lousy
VCR, which provides 220 lines, you'll see 220 lines.

Obviously, each generation copy will degrade in quality, if the
source medium is of the same or lesser resolution, as in
a VHS-VHS transfer.  Most broadcast signals have a much higher
resolution than VHS (whose resolution really sucks), so VHS copies 
from broadcast will look as good as a VHS tape can.

If you recorded from vhs to s-vhs, your copy would look as good
as the original.  ALthough you would not realize s-vhs's potential
resolution.



--
Roger Kaplan          | "There are two types of people in this world... 
Lehman Brothers       |  Those that think there are two types of people,
kaplanr@shearson.com  |  and those that know better."
 ..uunet!roses!kaplanr|    -- Tom Robbins, "Still Life with Woodpecker"
From: wowoc@acs.ucalgary.ca (Witold Owoc)
Subject: Re: Availability of movies
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 16:02:35 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, AB, Canada

<william@bcarh472.bnr.ca> (William Moss) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.144820.5567@ucunix.san.uc.edu>, raismana@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Neal A Raisman) writes:
>>> [....] French films starring Louis de Funes.
>I'm looking for these, too. I have an off-air copy of 'Les Aventures du Rabbi
>Jacob',
[...]
> tried 15 sources in Canada, to no avail.
Well I had more luck than you, about 3 months ago CBC (French branch)
had a festival of his movies, and I managed to record 12(?) of them.
Two ideas:
 - why not try in Quebec ? At least you will have a French version.
 - movies were shot widescreen and a lot of action is missing
   without letterboxing (at some points I had to explain things
   to my wife as I had seen them in theaters), and I am curious
   whether they are available on PAL LDs - preferably with
   English subtitles.

Witold Owoc <wowoc@acs.ucalgary.ca>
__
#disclaimer "my.private.views"
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: Coming out of the closet...
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 02:07:24 GMT
X-Posted-From: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Aug23.000459.2982@amgen.com> chriss@sam.amgen.com (Chris Silvester) writes:
>I'm sorry, but I've watched the comments about how LBX is far superior to PAN
>& SCAN too long to not venture my own opinion.  So, for me and anyone else out
>there like me, I'm going to say it...I DON'T LIKE THE LBX FORMAT!!!  Glad that's
>off my chest.
>
	You have to keep in mind -- if you haven't seen them side
by side you don't know what you are missing. Do you notice that
every scene in movies is a close-up of the person speaking?
Often, the person being spoken to isn't even visible.

	I have Star Wars on Video Tape P&S and Laserdisc LBX. I
can switch on my TV between inputs and I see just how much is
lost. Especially in an action movie like Star Wars, with
panoramic views and action coming from everywhere, you lose TONS.

	Also, some LBX is more than others because not all movies
are shot equally wide. Wayne's World, for example, uses most of
the screen because the original movie isn't as wide. Most
"action" or visual-oriented movies are wider.

	Yes, it is annoying only having some of the movie
removed. But I find it is worth it. Of course, I can get into the
movie enough to get over the missing image. If you can't, then
maybe for you P&S is better.
	-- Ethan


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From: exumfox@exu.ericsson.se (Mike Fox)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: splitting cable signal
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:02:28 GMT
Reply-To: exumfox@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems

You probably need a 10db amp available from any 
RadShak for less that $20.
From: killeen@spcvxb.spc.edu (Jeff Killeen)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: CamCorder Families
Date: 30 Aug 92 03:12:21 GMT
Organization: SPC Community Access System

In article <1010005@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com>, myron@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Myron Cox) writes:
> 
> Jeff:
> 
> You didn't specify which video format you were trying to group together.  

Good point - I tend only think in 8mm and forgot to flag that.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: JWEST@r3vm.dsd.trw.com (Judson West)
Subject: Random LD Reading Problem w/Pioneer 1070 LD Player
Organization: TRW Electronic Systems Group
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:32:53 GMT

Ocassionally, my Pioneer 1070 LD player refuses to properly play a LD.
Once the PLAY button is pressed, the door closes, the LD spins up to speed,
the display goes from PLAY to OPEN and spins down the LD. After about
30 seconds, the door opens. When it is in this mode, it will play CD's
fine. I will try to get several LD's to play with no effect. After letting
it sit a while, I can then get a LD to play. I don't believe that heat
is a problem (per se) because the player can sit for days and then produce
this error on the first try.
 
Any suggestions as to the cause would be helpful.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Judson West
From: wilson@mml.ncsl.nist.gov (Ron Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Help with Antenna
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:36:35 GMT
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology (NIST)

Hi Netters,

I need some advice.  Lately it seems that I have had a lot of interference 
in the TV reception.  Most UHF stations get fuzzy and drift off and now 
it's even happening to some network channels.  It's like the TV is trying 
to pickup two channels at the same time.  I live on the outskirts of 
Washington, DC and use a Channelmaster antenna with an amplifier.  The 
antenna feeds directly into the amp which is located in the attic.  This 
has worked fine for about six months.  I have heard or read that amps are 
great for picking up signals.  Is there a filter or something I can put 
in the line that will take out these stray signals?  Do I need to put in 
new cable?  

You can email me at wilson@mml.ncsl.nist.gov or post to the net.  

Thank you very much.

Ron Wilson
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        Beta tapes for $1 each. Mostly sony & tdk
        Must sell now. 50 tapes  e-mail or call 408 225 0923


Newsgroups: rec.video
From: t90534am@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Akira Mito)
Subject: Re: S-VHS vs regular video output
Organization: Faculity of Environmental Information,Keio University Shonan
	Fujisawa Campus(SFC),Japan.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 10:13:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.014715.17596@mprgate.mpr.ca>
ng@mprgate.mpr.ca (Steve Ng) writes:

 |Did I do the right comparison? or any types of output from a laser disc player
 |give pretty much the same quality? Can someone explain to me why I didn't
 |get a better image quality from a S-VHS output? (well, I assume my laser disc
 |player and my TV are working properly.

 Yes, you did right comparison. The result shows that Y/C signal
separater in your LDP and display have same ability.

------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Akira Mito(E-Mail:t90534am@sfc.keio.ac.jp)
  Junior@SFC(Keio Univ. Shownan Fujisawa Campus) 
  Department: Environmental Information (It's so COOL,isn't it?)
  Director of the SFC Hi-Vision Club, and member of SFC TiME, C-music.
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Subject: Re: Pioneer LD player. comments?
Organization: Columbia U., New York City
Reply-To: es1@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Ethan Solomita)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 14:29:28 GMT
X-Posted-From: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Aug31.133059.17865@citib.com> flongo@seles (Frank Longo) writes:
>I'm considering the purchase of Pioneer's LD 501 for $739.00.
>Any comments on the price or the unit would be helpful and
>appreciated. Thanks.
>
>Frank Longo
>flongo@bank.citib.com
>

	$739??? Eek. Call a mail order place. I'm sure you'll get
several mentions here, I got my 701 from New West for the same
price as they are quoting the 501. The 501 is $550 or so.
	-- Ethan


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Newsgroups: rec.video
From: anil@quiver.enet.dec.com (agr)
Subject: Re: Sony F501 and FX510 Camcorders
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:05:28 GMT


In article <1992Sep1.182640.21753@cliff.se.hou.compaq.com>, gandhi@cliff.se.hou.compaq.com (Deepak Gandhi) writes...
>My only major concern is the focusing system.  The 510 has TTL focusing
>while 501 has IR focusing.  I remember reading on the net long time ago
>that TTL focusing on Sony camcorders didn't work properly.  Has things
>changed now?  Will TTL focusing be a problem?
>...

    A friend recently bought a 510 and I got a chance to try it out.. it
    focuses quickly and accurately.

    agr
From: gt6363a@prism.gatech.EDU (John Hoang)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: splitting cable signal
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:58:30 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Aug28.014315.10244@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> ccw@prefect.uucp (26554-wood) writes:
>Hmmm.  I bought a similar box from Radio Shack to do the same job, and
>it put all sorts of noise and interference on the line.  Made the
>picture annoying to watch.  So we put in a passive splitter, which
>worked OK.
>
>>Tim Russell
>
>Chris
>
>
>Chris Wood     Bellcore     ...!bellcore!prefect!ccw
>                         or ccw@prefect.cc.bellcore.com

Typical of RS products.  My RS cable amplifier had the same problem. 
I also bought their "super-duper video processor" to improve dubbings,
but it just adds a lot of hum to the audio and the video showed no
improvement (I returned the damned thing an hour later.)  
The bottom line is, all RS audio and video products (among others unknown)
suck.
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: splitting cable signal
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Keywords: 

In article <1992Aug28.014315.10244@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> ccw@prefect.uucp (26554-wood) writes:
>Hmmm.  I bought a similar box from Radio Shack to do the same job, and
>it put all sorts of noise and interference on the line.  Made the
>picture annoying to watch.  So we put in a passive splitter, which
>worked OK.
>
>>Tim Russell
>
>Chris
>
>
>Chris Wood     Bellcore     ...!bellcore!prefect!ccw
>                         or ccw@prefect.cc.bellcore.com

Typical of RS products.  My RS cable amplifier had the same problem. 
I also bought their "super-duper video processor" to improve dubbings,
but it just adds a lot of hum to the audio and the video showed no
improvement (I returned the damned thing an hour later.)  
The bottom line is, all RS audio and video products (among others unknown)
suck.
Subject: Re: splitting cable signal
Summary: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Keywords: 

-- 
gt6363a@prism.gatech.edu
From: asmith@acorn.co.uk (Andy Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Arial design and installation
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:02:04 GMT
Organization: Acorn Computers Ltd, Cambridge, England

Can someone explain to me exactly how arials work (mainly UHF as used in the
UK), as I an having problems with mine. In particular, how does the dipole
work and on large (18 bay) arials why are the leaves at different spacings,
also how does the reflector keep the signals in phase?

If I point my arial directly at the transmitter, I get a worse signal, than
if I point to one side by about 30 deg? Does this have anything to do with
the fact I cut the front two bays off the arial to fit it into the loft
(its was an 18 bay 6ft arial)?

Any other hints and tips on arial design and installation, such as types of
down cable to use and use of amps, would be much appreciated.

Thanks 

Andy
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: pjd@cs.brown.edu (Peter J. DiCamillo)
Subject: Where to buy a video tuner?
Organization: Brown University Computing and Info. Services
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 03:17:01 GMT

Can anyone tell me where I can purchase a video tuner?  I don't need
anything fancy, just a basic tuner which I can use to convert the
channel 3 output from a cable converter to baseband video and audio.
I've looked around quite a bit, and apparently tuners are not a
general consumer item.  Thanks for any help you can provide.

Peter DiCamillo
Peter_DiCamillo@brown.edu
From: bennett@adobe.com (Bennett Leeds)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Black Line Disease Lives!
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:19:57 GMT
Reply-To: bennett@adobe.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated


From what I can tell, this doesn't seem to be widely known:

Pioneer's CLD-D701 LD player has what appears to me to be almost the same 
black-line problem as a "fixed" CLD-3090 player. I've got a disk (a copy of 
Edward Scissorhands) that has a sequence where 3090 and D701 players show 
numerous horizontal black bands and lines, while other players I've tried 
(CLD-D501, CLD-S201, and Elite CLD-95) do not show any. I've seen black lines 
with other disks on my D701 as well. The 3090 "fix" I'm referring to is the 
capacitor change in circuit C649, BTW.

The manifestation of the problem is horizontal black bands, several scanlines 
thick that pop on and off. There seems to be a correlation between dropouts and 
the black bands. Before the 3090 "fix" the bands were even thicker - after the 
fix the bands are thinner, but the area below the band that was opaque black is 
now just darker than the rest of the image. Exchanging for a new copy of the
same disk is one solution to the problem.

Some other artifacts on other disks I own, such as a couple cases of scrolling 
white lines, that appeared on my "fixed" 3090 do not appear on my D701, so 
perhaps there has been some improvement in defect handling between the two 
players.  The D701 is also quieter, and has a couple new features. But, it is 
annoying that this problem, well known to rec.video regulars, was not addressed 
for the new line of players.  
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: alan@ernest.dseg.ti.com (Alan Edmonds)
Subject: Re: Looking at LD players
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc. - Plano, Tx
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 18:22:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.062704.27857@sactoh0.sac.ca.us> dcm@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (D. Chris Miller) writes:
> 
>Right now, I'm looking at either the Pioneer CLD-D501 or the CLD-D701. 
>Could anyone mention the pros and cons with these two players?  Are they
>mentioned in the text-files by ?Bob? Niland (sorry if I didn't get that
>name right)?

Yhe major difference is the 701 has digital memory and can do 
"special effects" (pause, scan, reverse, etc) with no mess ups
in the video.  Put a CLV disk in the 501 and use the shuttle dial to fast
forward.  Pretty annoying.  Put the same disk in the 701 and do
the same thing.  Amazing.

Good luck in your purchase,
-- 
Alan Edmonds                                     Texas Instruments, Inc.
I don't speak for TI; TI doesn't speak for me    M/S 8513
Work phone: (214)575-6427                        6620 Chase Oaks Blvd.
Email: alan@ernest.dseg.ti.com                   Plano, Texas  75023
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: Re: Getting the Best Deal from Columbia LD
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:08:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.042454.4159@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:

>I've been an CH memember for about 18 months.   Depending on
>what you buy you will find prices can be lower than discount or
>higher.  You have to be careful when figuring out what you
>want, and beware of the "buy one at regular and take a 2nd the
>same or less for $19.95".  You can screw yourself badly if you
>don't take some time with a calculator.
>
>HOWEVER - there are some real bargains in this months list,
>which came today.
>RED TAG SALE is what it is called. It says "Buy Any Laserdisk
>from this magazine and you can take any number of specially
>reduced red tag laserdisk or VHS videos."
>What is surprising are the "red tag" items.
>
>They include "Aliens" Specail LBX edition, $69.95, Golden Age
>of Looney Tunes, Vols I & II for $69.95.  The Al Jolson
>collection (list of $149.95) for $99.95..
>There are probably about 50 disks like that in there.   Hunt
>for Red October is $19.95, as is the letterbox Terminator,
>Star Trek V for $14.95.

Cost, including shipping (and tax for CHLDC) was about a $1 more
for each of the Looney Tunes sets for me vs. the S&S summer sale
price, but CHLDC lets these count towards "dividend dollars" so
I deemed it worthwhile.

Some of those $19.95 and $14.95 prices may be in error.  I ordered
SILENCE OF THE LAMBS for $19.95 (page five of red tag sale catalog)
and was told it was in the computer at $29.95 - however if I called
back on the customer service number they would honor the price error
(the regular order clerk could not change the price in the computer).
I did and they did.  A bit of a hassle - they process it at full price
and then issue a credit.  Best thing is this one $19.95 purchase was
my ticket to the red tag sale!

The biggest problem with CHLDC is that they are appealing to naive and
new LD customers.  If you know your discs and prices you can get 
incredible bargains.  But you have to be careful.  It would help a
 LOT if they just listed standard disc catalog numbers in addition to
their own.

ORDERING TIDBIT:  If you call before 8 PM Eastern Time they use their
regular computer.  After that till Midnight they use what they call
a "night shift" program.  For some reason, that program inserts a
1.5 day delay for an order to be processed by the regular program.

-- 
                 "So many windows, So little time"

Bill Cruce, N.E. Ohio Univ. Coll. of Medicine, Box 95, Rootstown, OH 44272
VOICE: 216-325-2511,  FAX: 216-325-0522,  INTERNET: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu
From: brucer@gold.gvg.tek.com (Bruce Rayner)
Newsgroups: rec.video
Subject: Re: Buying a CamCorder in Japan
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:24:52 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1992Aug27.171437.9202@bnr.ca> zhao@bcarh12d.BNR.CA (Jeffrey Zhao) writes:
>Could anybody tell me if a CamCorder bought in Japan can be used
>here in North America?  I know Japan uses NTSC, but what about
>the audio frequency (sound carrier)?  I phoned a few local stores,



First, it probably be more expensive that mailorder here.  No technical
problems with sound or video.  The manuals and camera markings will be
in Japanese.  Service under warranty here could be a problem.

BR
Newsgroups: rec.video
From: yasin@laser.dev.cdx.mot.com (Yasin)
Subject: Thankyou all who helped for Multi System Info
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:52:04 GMT
Keywords: Converter


Thanks to everybody for the input on Multi System Questions.
The result for all your feedback was a purchase of AG-W1
converter, works real fine but the converted picture is not
very stable (a jitter is there), this shaking was quite
visible in the demo of Aiwa machine. The third choice was
from the Florida company, which I dropped due to the
inability of running various speeds.

Things to watch when going for purchase of devices like
converters:

	Does it convert various speeds (SP LP etc.)
	I think only AG-W1 was able to provide that.

	Does it have a Tuner for all systems
	AG-W1 does not have for NTSC.

	A Hi-fi stereo sound makes a good impression.

	I have heard that a Multi System TV does not 
	produce as good a picture with local system as a
	TV made for the local system. i.e. if the local
	transmission is PAL then a PAL TV will produce
	a better picture then a multi system TV.

	Multiple outputs are very handy as you can make
	watch while making a tape also, most of the time.

	And last but not the least look at the support
	for that product call them up for trial basis.
	


Regards,