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From: xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Scott R Violet)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Question about cells
Date: 31 Dec 1992 18:59:27 GMT
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Originator: xepo@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


HI all,
	I recently aquired a couple of very nice cels and had a few
questions about them.  First of which is: how exactly are cels used in
the animation process?  What I mean is once they have the cel done,
how do they use it to get it on film?  Is a picture of it made or
what?  Am I to assume that once you buy a cel it is yours?  By this I
mean since it is original artwork and you are buying it is it legal to
make posters from it and sell them?  Any comments about this would be
greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
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From: umsitho0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Dennis Hai Choon Sithoo)
Subject: SAZAN EYES CD s
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 21:24:14 GMT

  Happy Holidays everyone! 

  I have decided to look into getting the Sazan Eyes music CD's. I realize
that there are 3 sets. One of these three being a 2 disc set (music & drama).
Could anyone recommend the best choice of the three sets? Thanks!
From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Seiyuu graffitti
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 07:50:48 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <3130249@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> okamoto@hpcc01.corp.hp.com writes:
 > > A couple of questions about the Voice Actor Graffiti CD (which I just
 > > got).
 >  
 > > Does anyone know which anime (if any) Megumi Hayashibara's HI*MI*KO is
 > > from?
 >  
 > Probably not from any.  I know that two of the pieces are from actual anime
 > (Hidaka Noriko and Sakuma Rei from Gunbuster and Kawamura Maria from Megazone
 > 23), but I think the rest are original pieces.

Actually, there are two pieces from MZ23. Maybe not from the anime
itself, but two of the tracks can be found on the MZ Vocal Collection
CD. It's mainly image songs, I think.

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From: n9282081@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Rob Ketcherside)
Subject: Re: Ranma noodles!
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:13:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.170426.23340@news.columbia.edu> krim@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Karl Rim) writes:
>>00gdwessel@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>>
>>> Wanna write to whoever makes them, and ask that they chenage the name from
>>> ramen noodles into Ranma noodles???
>>> 
>>> After all, they change when they are put in hot water!
>>
>
>No No No, that's only one part, they have to change *back* when
>they are put in cold water!
>
>Hmmm, if they did accomplish that feat...
>Wow, talk about indigestion...
>
>But seriously (yeah right) I'm suprised no one has marketed this idea
>in Japan yet.  Think about it, an anime endorssed food product,
>I bet all the kids (and grownup Otakus's :-) would want it!
>
>Why not, Ranma is marketed in everything else, why not food?
>Namely Ramen noodles....
>
>-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Still procrastinating - stuck in a rut and working on Chapter 4...

=)  Actually, they already have anime-supported food.. one of many is two
new Dragonball products.. one is cheese puffs and the other is some weird
chips with a bit of spice on them.. they're pretty good, but you get cuwl
cardboard tokens in every package!! =)
 
 
Robert Ketcherside
AKA HunterD
 
   "Anime isn't just a hobby, it's a personal problem"
          -"Mister Ray" Irish
 
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From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: AA'93, AX'93, and Flame Wars
Date: 24 Dec 92 01:01:25 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
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In article <40c0VB1w165w@lunacity.com> fafhrd@lunacity.com 
(David Medinnus) writes:
>> "Quality" is a subjective term.  There are some who are big fans of GoH X,
>> but don't know GoH Y.  Hence GoH X has more "quality" than GoH Y.  Besides,
>> 'twas Mr. Green who started counting guests.  I think the score was 14 to 9
>> or something like that.
>
>And your comment on quantity vs quality is well-taken; I thought that it 
>was pretty rude/pointless/futile to begin a "we have" vs. "they have" 
>arguement thread on either the "we have more than they do" or the "we 
>have fewer guests, but of higher quality" positions. Which was precisely 
>my point. George sounded stupid when he did the "14 vs 4" comment, and 
>you and James Brooks sounded petty and defensive with the "quality vs. 

Check my post Dave, all I did was to correct his facts.  He said 
"Anime America has 14 GoHs" (paraphased) and I mentioned that Guests
are different from Guests of Honor.  Nothing more.  If you wish to consider
that petty then by all means do so, but at least quote me so that others
reading your post can make that judgement for themselves.

>quantity" riposte. Both cons have good, professional, relevant anime 
>industry guests, and lets leave it at that.

Please, lets.
>David Medinnus -> (fafhrd@lunacity.com)
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Subject: Legend of the Over Fiend ...
From: raa@wndrsvr.la.ca.us (Raa Zepol)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 08:09:27 GMT
Organization: Wonder Server - Public Access for SoCal

I've seen it ... and I LOVE 'em! I have some TGA's from it ... and Man ...
I wanna get them on LD ... I Like them!

Urotsuki Doji! YAY! :)

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From: geirj@hsr.no (Geir Friestad)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Anime UK #5 (may contain spoilers)
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:05:39 GMT
Organization: Rogaland University Centre

Since it apparently exists a demand for early reviews of anime stuff from
Europe (both magazines and PAL releases), here's a short rundown of issue 5 of
Anime UK Magazine:

NEWSLINE
   Three pages this time, with lots of short but interesting notices. One of
   them is NOT a good one - MANGA VIDEO has apparently NO releases scheduled
   for January 93. This means "3x3 Eyes" has been delayed *AGAIN!*  (sigh)

MOBILE SUIT GODDAMN....ehh, sorry... GUNDAM Century
   This is a 12-page article about the Gundam universe, and the article is
   part one of three.  I hate mecha, so I haven't read this one yet.  It LOOKS
   like it's well written, though.

THE HUNT FOR RED NIPPON
   Nice article about the "Chinmoku-no-Kantai" (The Silent Service) manga.

THE SECRET OF BLUE WATER
   Introductory article about the Nadia (Blue Water?) anime. I haven't seen
   anything of this anime yet, but this article made me want to get it! :D

MODEL CLUB SPECIAL
   Short article (more pictures than text) about to British model makers.
   Pictures of some of their models. OK stuff (the article - the models were
   great).

AN INTERVIEW WITH GO NAGAI
   The interview that Peter Evans conducted during the Hamacon. Interesting.

ANIME A-Z
   The letters D and E. ('Nuff said!)

UROTSUKIDOJI
   Review of the Manga Video (IWC) release. It's reviewed by the magazine's
   editor, Helen McCarthy, and it's very, very good (much better than the
   review I posted on the net). It's also the first anime to be stomped on by
   Anime UK (the anime itself receives a good review. The script and dubbing
   on the other hand......)

BASTARD!
   Review of the anime "Bastard!" by Peter Evans. As always, Evans' sence of
   humor is great. The anime looked somewhat interesting.

EYECATCH
   A bit of readers' art.

ANIMAIL
   The readers' letters of course. Skip this page folks, pleeeeeeeaaaaseee! :)

OUTZONE
   A new food recipe. This time it's Porco Rosso that gets its a culinary
   treatment, with "Porco Pasta". Looks delicious - think I'll try it out in
   the very *near* future! :D

And....that's all! Oh, and did I mention Wil Overton has as usual delivered a
truly magnificent cover (Nadia)?  And there's also a free giveaway with this
issue.

RECOMMENDED READING!!! :) :) :)

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From: dhiga@aludra.usc.edu (Darold Higa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: A Christmas Thought
Date: 24 Dec 1992 13:36:32 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
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OK.  On to something far less controversial than con talk (although for some
equally painful).  I had a long afternoon with two Japanese girls and the 
topic of conversation drifted to Christmas and Valentines Day.  Commenting on 
the crowd at Disneyland, one of the Japanese girls commented that Christmas
was a "lover's holiday" in Japan, not a family one.  Apparently the three big
"lover's holidays" are:

-Valentines Day
(The girl gives Chocolates and gifts to a boy)

-I forgot the name, please help (in March)
(The boy returns the favor with expensive gifts--I heard Tiffany's far too 
often here for MY comfort...)

-Christmas
(time for couples to take time out with each other...sigh)

This should explain much to all you diehard otakus who dust out their favorite
Christmas episodes to watch instead of "It's A Wonderful Life", like KOR
"Triple Christmas".

Well, enough of this.  I wish everyone on the net peace and tranquility this
holiday season, be it with your family, lover, or con staff.
To all the friends I've made here, on RAA, IRC and at CalAnimage (you too PC),

MERRY CHRISTMAS!

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From: genef@netcom.com (Gene Fornario)
Subject: Re: r.a.a. widely known?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 10:12:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.070819.7127@netcom.com> albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku) writes:
>-- 

How would you rate r.a.a. as compared to other anime forums on your other
online services?

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From: gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan)
Subject: Re: In favor of Anime Expo
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 19:37:53 GMT



I haven't seen any anti-AX'93 articles,  just what are you talking 
about?  The only bitter-type articles have been people on BOTH sides 
posting their respective perspectives (take THAT , Jesse Jackson 8-) on 
what the negotiations over the past months have been.

The only negative post from a individual against Ax93 seems to have 
been from Mr. George Greene.  Though it primarily seemed to stand from a
fan perspective rather than a competitor perspective. (A Clarification on 
his original post: AnimeCON91 had the problems with last minute guest 
cancellations, with Toshio Okada and Leiji Matsumoto, mainly.  MAtsumoto-senseihad to take on additional duties in a production while a friend was ill, but
what was Okoda-san's cancellation about?.  Not a flame, I'm just curious
why the OtaKing himself was unable to show, just working on OnV?, and also
Mr. Otomo also cancelled, but that was a little bit before the con I 
believe)  Even though all cons have and have had cancellations, it is the
last-minute "unavoidable" ones that stick in people's minds.

Regarding my report about the Westin, that is FACT!!!  The AA93 reservations
WERE cancelled by the Westin, but it is unclear yet as to the who,what,where
as to who falsely represented himself to the WEstin to do this.

Ryan Gavigan
gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu


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From: trebor@foretune.co.jp (Robert J Woodhead)
Subject: Re: ANIMEIGO: NEW YEAR'S LICENSING ANNOUNCEMENT
Keywords: animeigo ad police gal force license
Organization: Foretune Co., Ltd.
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 02:07:24 GMT

jly33321@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (John L.Yoon ) writes:

>However, one question:
>are the segments showing the voice actresses singing at end of both
>Scramble Wars and Ten Little Gal Force going to be included on the 
>AnimEigo release?

I don't see any reason why not...

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From: sazan@hounix.org (Kevin Winkler)
Subject: Anime Seiya addenem
 Summary: 
Organization: Houston UNIX Users Group (HOUNIX), Houston, TX
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:08:32 GMT

     Well, I've come across some other stuff that can be added to the Anime
Seiya(?) list.  Of course, most of these are from, ofcourse, Devil Hunter 
Yohko(Mamono Hunter Yohko)

Doi, Mika
  Mamono Hunter Yohko
   Principle

Honda Chieko
  Mamono Hunter Yohko
   Chigako Ogawa

 Matsui, Naoko(Maoko in our translation) 
  Mamono Hunter Yohko
   Reiko

Mitsuya Yuuji
  Mamono Hunter Yohko
   Madoka Mano
     (Yes, Tofue Sensei does a woman's part)

Yamaguchi, Kappei
  Mamono Hunter Yohko
   Osamu

    Kevin Winkler
    A.D. Vision Rep
From: whong@musubi.pubnet.com (Dream Hunter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: American Seiyuu List?
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 01:50:52 HST
Organization: Studio Musubi, Honolulu HI

m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins) writes:

>    Does an American Anime Seiyuu list exist?  If not, I'd be willing
> to maintain one.  I've seen nearly all the dubs available on video.
> Let me know if you'd be interested in this kind of thing, and I'll
> put one together.  I'm aware that many Streamline voice actors have
> used pseudonyms, so I'll include those.

Sure, it should be good for at least a few laughs.  ;^)

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From: starfish@stein.u.washington.edu (Sarah Skovronsky)
Subject: r.a.a mailing list?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 21:37:48 GMT

Is there an anime mailing list (perhaps one that contains the messages from
rec.arts.anime) out there?  I know someone who is just starting to explor
anime, and has an Internet account but can't read news.

Please email...

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From: ken@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Primer)
Subject: Rumiko Takahashi
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 02:13:03 GMT


    Hmmmm....wasn't there an announcement that Takahashi was "considering"
attending an American anime convention? And weren't we supposed to send her mail to persuade her which con to attend?

   Well folks it can't hurt to try! the address again is:
     Rumiko Takahashi, C/O Shogakukan, 2-3-1 Hitotsubashi, Chiyoda-ku, Tokyo
101 Japan.

  I "voted" for Project Akon 4.   Why? It's not in California, that's why! 
It would give the fans in the midwest and south a chance to meet a major
force in anime/manga. maybe it would also avoid pumping the already inflated
egos of the two competing west coast cons.

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From: rpaw@ocf.berkeley.edu (Richard Tse-Woon Paw)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: New round of Dirty Tricks against AA?
Date: 24 Dec 1992 09:27:15 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
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In article <1992Dec22.005321.20909@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan) writes:
>ANyway, notw to the really strange news that smells of dirty tricks.
>
>A friend of mine, called the Westin, wanting info after not receiving yet
>written confirmation of reservations.  Anyway, the person at the Westin
>claimed that "someone" talked to them on Friday (the 18th) and said
>AA'93 was cancelled.  Thus all the reservations were therefore cancelled.
>Considering the latest AA'93 update is dated the 19th, I smell something
>rotten in Denmark.
>
Find out who told them that the con was cancelled.  No hotel will cancel
reservations for a convention based on an anonymous tip.  There's too much
money involved.  After all we're talking about tens of thousands if not
hundreds of thousands of dollars for the hotel.  Most businesses wouldn't be
very quick to throw that much money away without good reason and a lot of 
paper work.  The word usually has to come from someone claiming to be
fairly high up in the convention in question or an official contact.  Also,
verbal notifacation usually isn'y enough since so much of the hotel's
resources are involved.  Unless the person on duty at the hotel is a complete
and total idiot he wouldn't cancel all the reservations based on "someone"
telling them the con was cancelled.  I think we'd all be interested to know
who told them that and if they had anything written notifacation.
>
>Ryan Gavigan
>gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu
>
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From: thmartin@romulus.rutgers.edu (Miss Animerica)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: KOR: Of Akane, idol-worship, and unusual relationships...
Date: 22 Dec 92 00:07:58 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Anime

conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei) writes:
> 	He says that Akane, contrary to American otaku opinion,
> 	is NOT a lesbian.  He also added that the kind of "idol
> 	crush" that Akane feels towards Madoka is not as unusual
> 	in Asian countries as it is here in the US.

> Any evidence to support his point?  Any evidence to refute it?

In the manga, there are several scenes where it is clear that Akane is
sexually attracted to Madoka.  The most obvious example is in
"Kiken-na Futari", hardcover volume 7 page 156.  Another good example
is in "Mokugekisha Akane", volume 5 page 72.  Funny how both times she
wakes up to find Kyousuke next to her.

There is a story where she spurns another girl, though.  In "Koi no
Bus Stop!", starting on volume 8 page 69, Akane pretends Kyousuke is
her boyfriend to lose a female admirer because she wants only Madoka.
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From: spiff@netcom.com (Mark Schumann)
Subject: Dragonar model kits wanted
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 17:17:49 GMT

Im looking for 1/144 or 1/100 Dragonar (Japanese Mecha Animation) model
kits - unassembled or assembled.  I will pay cash or trade any of the
following fo them:

Anime Stuff
Mospeada Anime Comic #1	.Collector's item- rare		
Zeta Gundam Anime Comic #2				

Model Graphix
	5/87            L-Gaim special feature, D-1, Hellminer, Gundam Mk. 5
	4/86            Dijeh, Quebeley, Qwadan, Methuss, Z Gundam, Gall Force
	2/86            Death Demons, Gaza D, Gallus J, Gall Force
	5/89            Starship Troopers, 0080 Zugock, Gundam Sentinel, Gunhed
	7/86		Death Demons, Corsair, Gaza-D, Gallus-J, Gall Force	

Hobby Japan
	2/87		Galient: Iron Emblem, Blassty, The-O, Zaku II

B-Club
	30		Starship Troopers, Dunbine OVA, Patlabor, BGC,
			Dogs of War
	40		Gundam 0080, Patlabor, Starship Troopers, Dangaio
	28		Apple Seed, Dragon's Heaven, Dogs of War, Char's 
			Counteratack, Dragonar

Hobby Japan: "All That Figure" - How to do figure models.  

B-Club Aura battlers: Aura Fhantasm Special. 

Gaming

Traveller: 2300.  By GDW.  
2300: Starcruiser.  Ship design & combat for 2300.  
2300: Ships of the French Arm.  
Traveller (original edition).  
	Books: 
	5: High Guard 
	Supplements:
	3: The Spinward Marches


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From: ramberg@futon.SFSU.EDU (James Ramberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: KOR: Of Akane, idol-worship, and unusual rela
Date: 24 Dec 92 07:37:05 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <BzqL7M.Ir3@jrd.dec.com> doi@jrd.dec.com (Hitoshi Doi) writes:
>In article <Dec.22.14.40.51.1992.9455@romulus.rutgers.edu>, thmartin@romulus.rutgers.edu (Miss Animerica) writes:
 [ Saving bandwidth]

># I write:
># In both those scenes, Akane wants to get physical.
># While there are non-sexual "S"
># friendships in anime and manga, like Noriko and Kasumi, Akane's
># feelings for Madoka include lesbianism.  Surely you don't discount
># Kyousuke's lust, why should Akane's be any different?
>
>The image that I get of Akane is that she wants Madoka
>as an object, not as a boy or girl.  I get the feeling that
>Akane wants to cuddle Madoka like a teddy bear or something
>at that level.  This is just the image of Akane that I get
>from reading the manga stories that involve her.  She is not
>ready, or not looking for, a sexual relationship yet.
>--

I agree with Hitoshi. It would not be in keeping to KOR's very sensitive
approach to sexuality to do something so brash as bringing in a lesbian.
Freud had a very good saying " Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar." 
T-san: I ask you  to consider wether or not the idea meshes with the
way that the relationships were tackled. It seems to me it doesn't. Thinking
about it in terms of a girl just wanting to fit in and have friends does.
Recall the OAV ( who's name escapes me.. KOR-Kami help :-)) where Kyokuse
poses as Akane's boyfriend to help her make piece with some girl friends of\
hers who were calling her a lesbian ( tpyical junior high stuff there)
[ I won't spoil the ending for those of you who haven't seen it..it's
extremely poignant]

 I would offer of a parallel between Akane's interest in Madoka and 
B-ko's interest in C-ko .. [ Would you consider B-ko a lesbian as well??]


Cheers and Happy holidays to all !!  

 
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