From: mooring@rikki.Eng.Sun.COM (Linda Mooring)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog & Protection
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:13:36 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rikki

In article <16052@mindlink.bc.ca> Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop) writes:
>> Chris Barnes writes:
>> Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop) writes:
>> >behaviour in people, and that's what cues them to be protective. A person
>> >coming into your yard to get a ball moves differently from a person intent
>> on
>> >sneaking in and robbing you and the dog will pick up on this right
>> >away...it's not surprsing since dog language consists so much of body
>> >language.
>>
>> You are both making the assumption that it is OK for a kid to come
>> into my yard for any reason.  If you want to make that assumption,
>> then you are welcome to.  But it's not OK for me.  That's why I have a
>> chain link fence (with a locked gate) around my yard (note that this
>> eliminates the "toddler" coming in my yard).  And if a kid big enough
>> to climb a fence is dumb enough to climb in anyway with my 2 dogs
>> barking their heads off at him, then HE DESERVES TO GET BIT!  PERIOD.
>
>
>Hmmm. I wasn't assuming anything about your yard, I was discussing dog
>behaviour, but since you mention it:  I agree that a secure yard is a
>necessity for a dog that will be left in it unsupervised, both for the safety
>of the dog and for a child that might otherwise wander in. I also agree that
>a kid who climbs such a fence is pretty dumb and that he has no right to be
>in the yard, but I don't think it follows that he DESERVES to 'get bit'. I
>think that's a rather harsh view of things...do you dislike people that much?
>It sure is a good thing that you've never made a dumb mistake in your life.
>
>I don't like people coming onto my property uninvited either, but from time
>to time, for one reason or another, in spite of whatever precautious you take
>these things happen. Certainly the person deserves to be barked at and warned
>away, frightened off maybe, but the idea that a person with no 'bad'
>intentions (and unfortunately also no common sense) deserves to be shredded
>is somewhat sickening.
>

Hey, hey, wait a minute.  When I read Chris's post, I saw the following:
High, almost impenetrable chain link fence.  Behind it: large dogs 
"barking their heads off."  I'm sorry, but I won't even stand close
to a fence with dogs barking like that behind it - LET ALONE CLIMB
THE FENCE INTO THE TURMOIL BELOW.  I agree with Chris, any child old
enough to scale a fence like that who does so in the face of dogs
barking like that does deserve to get bitten.  If his/her ball landed
behind the fence, he/she can wait until Chris gets home to retrieve
it!

Geez, when I was a kid I respected my neighbor's property.  
I'd NEVER climb into a neighbor's yard - dog or no!  I did have one
rebellious friend who scaled fences at a whim (I suppose I was a wimp
because I never followed).  She did, however have an incredible respect
for dogs, and stayed clear of any of those houses.  She's probably
out there stealing stereos today - from all the houses without
dogs!  ;-)

Linda
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