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From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Appeal to Arindam
Date: 20 Aug 92 18:20:27 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com

mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh) writes:

>When the Sanatan Dharma gets encased in debris a manifestation of God appears
>to rescue them from debris. The last most prominent one in Hnduism was
>Caitanya Mahaprabhu: who showed that the devotional service is the surest

How do you know he was a manifestation of God? How do you know there is God?

>in this case. He cannot be a slave to anybody except the Lord. The Graduate
>School is nothing but slavery to your advisor.

Why "except the Lord"? What is so special about the "Lord"? Why can't you
be a buddy of "Lord"?

>*Well the only rule a Bahai has to follow is the wish of Bahaullah. BTW

So, you are now becoming a slave of Bahaullah. Or is he equivalent of
"Lord" who was going to be your only master.

>Bahaullah told me what I am supposed to do other than teaching the children
           ^^^^
Exactly how did he "tell" you? Using sound waves or some indirect way?
Please elaborate. 

>I have been selected by Bahaullah to bring back some of the select gems
>of Sanatan Dharma to the rest of the world

Exactly how did he "select" you? Was anyone else competing for the job?

Besides, couldn't you settle for being an "ordinary" bahai, doing your
worldly duties as well, instead of getting "selected" for some exalted
global mission. 

IMHO, you are running away from a job (graduate studies) you undertook,
leaving it unfinished. No matter what you decide to do in future, you can
always get out of it midway by claiming that that job is "slavery" to XYZ.
I hope I am wrong.

Sumitro
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: obaidr@ecf.toronto.edu (OBAID ARIF)
Subject: Movies
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:23:20 GMT

	Can someone recommend a few good Indian movies. Thanks.

Arif.
From: patrinr@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: News-Clarificaton Please
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:07:23 GMT
Reply-To: self
Organization: Memphis State University

Just read in the India Digest News that 11 Indian actors face a possible
death sentence for allegedly insulting Islam in the United Arab Emirates
(UAE). Could anyone confirm or deny this news? Who are these unfortunate
people? Like to hear more about it.

Patri Rao
From: srik@cs.arizona.edu (Srikanth Raghavan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: WHAT IS LOVE?
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:58:56 GMT

When you try to log into your loved ones account by guessing her password,
				^^^^(i know i ought not to be using the word
					love in defining love, but tis a joke)
thinking it to be a anagram of ur name and suppose the guy has a motto like
"NEVER GIVE IN", we end up with a lovely death!

Actually this becomes height of boredom, when the person whose a/c u r trying 
to break into is not loved by u!
From: towfiq@nighthawk.clearpoint.com (Mark Towfiq)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Appeal to Arindam
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:10:49 GMT
Organization: Clearpoint Research Corporation

>>>>> On 20 Aug 92 15:41:56 GMT, trivedi@yukawa.uchicago.edu (Anil
>>>>> Trivedi) said:

[Talking to Arindam about the Baha'i approach to social change ...]

at> But I plead with you to recognize the *possibility* that your
at> understanding of your new religion just might be shallower than
at> you fancy. [...]  As for the Down-Top, you are dead wrong. It is
at> this unthinking behavior on your part that worries me.

  Anil, it seems as though you would paint yourself as knowing more
than Arindam about the Baha'i Faith.  Yet while claiming to know more
about the Baha'i teachings than Arindam, you mistakenly refer to the
religion of Baha'u'llah as "Bahaism".  Could you please clarify what
exactly you do know about the Baha'i approach to social and economic
development?

at> Why is there almost no Bahai presence in American ghettos and
at> slums, say like Christian missionaries?

  On what do you base this statement?  I just saw a videotape last
night about Baha'i news around the world, which included a segment on
the Los Angeles Baha'i center, which was in the riots (the buildings
around it were burned to the ground), and which served as a
distribution point for food and clothing, and in which Baha'is offered
counseling for the children to help them deal with what they went
through.

  With only 110,000 Baha'is in the US, there is no doubt that we could
serve to expand our programs to as many places as possible.  But that
can only come with an increased membership, which is happening daily
(the Baha'i Faith is one of the fastest-growing religions).

at> Why big beautiful Houses of Worship in Wilmette or Delhi, instead
at> of many little ones dotting the poor comunities?

  There are many many Baha'i centers around the world, and the
communities which do not have them hold their functions in the homes
of Baha'is or in public or rented spaces, like here, in Boston.

  But a Baha'i House of Worship is not the same thing as a Baha'i
center; while in the future, there will certainly be a Baha'i House of
Worship in every town in the world, right now there are only 7; in
Western Samoa, Panama, Uganda, the United States, India, Germany, and
Australia.  All Baha'i Houses of Worship are open to everyone in the
world, regardless of race, creed, religion, economic status, or
gender.

   I hope this answers your question.
--
Mark Towfiq, towfiq@Clearpoint.COM			      H:+1 617 488 2818

When we warn you how angry the Negro is becoming, you, instead of thanking us
for giving you a little warning, try to accuse us of stirring up the Negro.
Don't you know that if your house is on fire and I come to warn you that your
house is burning, you shouldn't accuse me of setting the fire!  Thank me rather
for letting you know what's happening, or what's going to happen, before it's
too late.
		-- Malcolm X
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma)
Subject: Re: A Reply to Kamran's Post on Scientific Religion
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:23:29 GMT

Mark writes:

> ...When considering the four criteria which Kamran has put forth
> as the standard to judge whether something is true, namely:

> 1) senses,
> 2) reason,
> 3) scripture,
> 4) inspiration

>   I think the fundamental point to consider here is that all of these
> methods, when used alone, are faulty.  For with the sense, we can
> "see" a mirage; we can reason things that are not true, and only
> discover it later; since scripture depends on our faculty of reason,
> we can mis-interpret it; and our gut feeling can often be predicated
> on selfish motives, not a search for the truth.

>   I think once this basic fact is accepted about these methods of
> finding truth, we realize that any of them can be in conflict,
> including the example you called into question, namely, when one's
> reason contradicts an explicit text.


	Whenever there is a contradiction, among 1, 2, 3, and 4 above,
	on a particular matter, it seems [to me] that that matter can't
	be taken as the truth.
	
	As was pointed out, "all of these methods when used alone are
	faulty." This would imply that the truth has to be "percieved"
	by the "totality" and not by the "parts."
	
	Also 1-4, and everything, depend upon "I" first. Finding out
	what this "I" really is would be the first step in finding
	out "The Truth."
	
	What if the "I" is false [inherently]? If false, all that
	depends upon the false "I" would be false.
	
	
>   This is where the notion of CHANGE comes in.  For, when you find a
> contradiction between any of these four methods, it is then that the
> real work begins, as you must go back and re-question the steps which
> led to the contradictory conclusions.  In your example, you must both
> re-examine your reasoning as well as re-examine the scriptures, and
> then proceed to examine your gut feeling and what you perceive, in the
> hopes of breaking the deadlock.


	All [things including 1-4 above] changes. Isn't it?
	

> O SON OF MAN!
> Bestow My wealth upon My poor,
> that in heaven thou mayest draw
> from stores of unfading splendour and treasures of imperishable glory.
> But by My life!
> To offer up thy soul is a more glorious thing couldst thou but see
> with Mine eye.

 		-- Baha'u'llah, Arabic Hidden Words, #57


	This implies giving up of the "I"
	     and then "The Glory" of "The Truth" is there
	     as It Always Is.
	
	
---raj


	[P.S. Keep posting from Arabic Hidden Words, please.]
From: srinivs@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Srinath Srinivas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Test
Date: 22 Aug 92 20:05:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Cincinnati

This is a test.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma)
Subject: Re: Appeal to Arindam
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 15:07:52 GMT

Sumitro writes:

> How do you know he was a manifestation of God?
> How do you know there is God?


	 How do you know he was "not" a manifestation of God?
	 How do you know there is "no" God?


> Why "except the Lord"?
> What is so special about the "Lord"?
> Why can't you be a buddy of "Lord"?


	Why "not" "except the Lord"?
	What is so special about the "Lord"?  The whole universe!
	Why can't you be a buddy of "Lord"?   Indeed why not?
	

> Exactly how did he "tell" you?
> Using sound waves or some indirect way?


	Exactly how did he "tell" you?   The same way she tells you;
	                                 [but, you don't listen].
	
	Using sound waves or some indirect way?  Aha, why should this
						 secret be told to you?
						
> Exactly how did he "select" you?
> Was anyone else competing for the job?


	Exactly how did he "select" you?  Why should you be told?
	Was anyone else competing for the job?  Why are you so interested?
	
	
> I hope I am wrong.


	No, you are not wrong;
	    you are not interested [at this time]
	    in "seeing" all of you, for you, by you.
	
	
---raj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: J.Ainikkal@massey.ac.nz (J. Ainikkal)
Subject: Re: Mera Bharat Mahan
Summary: Tiny island across the ditch
Keywords: Tiny island across the ditch
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
X-Reader: NETNEWS/PC Version 2c
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 03:02:11 GMT

Soc.culture.india does not provide news. 
It has been specifically instated to debate all sorts of
irrerlevant/weird topics. For news I would advice U to check
'misc.news.southasia'.

You could also subscride to India-D

Their email is -

add@andy.bgsu.edu

You might have to send a message along which states-

add india-d & (INN)
YOUR EMAIL Address.

Could someone verify the above? As I am not 100% sure as to the
procedure.

I do not do favours for people from that tiny island across the
ditch but in your case I am making an exception.

John Ainikkal
'Aotearoa' - Land of the long white cloud
From: s9263@bunny.gte.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Accomodation available in Manhattan (aug-18 to sep-18)
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:06:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GTE Laboratories
Originator: s9263@harvey.gte.com

Furnished university accomodation is available in Manhattan, New York
City, from Aug-18 to Sep-18 or alternatively from Aug-28 to Sep-18th.
Dates can be adjusted if needed. Send mail at the above address if
interested.
From: vemuri@informix.com (Sudhakar Vemuri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: address for Index Computing, Bangalore
Date: 19 Aug 92 22:24:55 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.


Hi friends,

I need to contact Mr D.V.Subrahmanyam working in Index Computing, Bangalore.

Can any of you give me his e-mail address or Index's e-mail address


Thanks a lot.


Sudhakar Vemuri
From: thrapp@nosc.mil (Gary R. Thrapp)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indian temple ceremonies
Date: 19 Aug 92 16:45:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: nosc.1992Aug19.164522.20607
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA


I am considering sponsoring some ceremonies at a temple in India.
I have many questions I would like to ask of the knowledgeable
readers of this newsgroup.  If you would be willing to help a novice
with some basic questions could you please email to me directly.
Thank you very much.

-------------------------------------------------------------

Gary R. Thrapp
thrapp@nosc.mil
From: chemsn@emory.edu (Sreehari Nimmala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Stop posting :Re: Telugu Culture Net Digest 41
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:59:39 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

mahesh@evb.com (B.G. Mahesh) writes:
: 
: PLEASE stop posting Telugu Digests on s.c.i. There is a
: separate (group) for telugu. I am paying for something
: which I don't read. 
: 
: Mahesh
: mahesh@evb.com
: -- 
: 
: B.G. Mahesh
: mahesh@evb.com

Don't read if you choose to do so. Almost every article
in SCI is a kind of junk to some extent. As you may skip
many articles, do the same with Telugu Digests.

---Sree
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: ambati@ubunix.buffalo.edu
Subject: Madurai Kumbhabhishekam
Originator: mmdh@cbnewsf.cb.att.com
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:16:21 GMT


This is posted for a friend.

  Could someone please tell me when the next Madurai Meenakshi Amman Temple
Kumbhabhishekam will be held?

  Please post responses to the net or E-mail to ambati@ubunix.buffalo.edu.

Thank you


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rkannan@diana.cair.du.edu (Rajgopal Kannan)
Subject: Re: Going to a Wedding
Organization: University of Denver, Denver, Colorado
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 07:02:56 GMT

In article <75880004@hpldsla.sid.hp.com> jdansky@hpldsla.sid.hp.com (Jeri Dansky) writes:
>I'm (hopefully) about to go to a wedding in India, and I'm hoping the
>readers of this newsgroup can answer a few questions for me.
>
>The wedding invitation says it's the wedding of Sow. Meera with
>Chi. Sriram.  What do "Sow." and "Chi." mean?

Chi is a euphemism for disgusting and Sow is a reminder of the traditional
belief that women are cattle :-)

>Thanks for any help,
>
>Jeri Dansky
>jeri@spd.hp.com


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Re: Where Programmers are...
Keywords: Programmers, Statistics
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 21:45:22 GMT


In article <10455@wrgate.wr.tek.com> nagesh@loowit.wr.tek.com (Nagesh
Rao) writes:
>
>Software Developers and their Managers by country in 1990
>---------------------------------------------------------
>
>Country			Programmers	Managers 	Total
>-------			-----------	--------	-----
>USA			1,693,200	253,980		1,947,180
>USSR			1,445,000	216,750		1,661,750
>India			1,252,500	187,875		1,440,375
>China			  990,000	148,500		1,138,500
>Japan			  850,000	127,500		  977,500


Maybe this is explaned with the size of population.
I would like to see a similar list listed as percent
from the total population of country.

I think (guess) India is far at bottom with China.

Where was Finland? Augh.  :-)


Juhana Kouhia
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gulati@access.digex.com (Raj K. Gulati)
Subject: looking for ways to meet opp sex
Reply-To: gulati@access.digex.com
Organization: Express Access -- Greenbelt, Maryland  USA
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 07:43:06 GMT

Hi,
  A few of my friends including myself, are wondering about what
  is the best way to meet indian guys and gals (ie opposite sex)
  here in the U.S. Some of us would want to pursue just a rela-
  tionship, others are inclined towards immediate (or arranged)
  marriages. Any suggestions?

  Please send replies to gulati@access.digex.com.

Thanks,
- Rajesh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh)
Subject: Re: Soc.culture.Indian or Islam or Hinduism??
Reply-To: mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:40:13 GMT


>Just try to understand Hinduism, the culture and its religions (Its not *A*
>religion as you make it out to be) and you will find the answers to the
>problems you are seeking in Bahai'ism.
>
>Good Luck.
>
>
>---raj
>
>

Bahai faith is HInduism, Buddhism, Islam , Christianity , Buddhism etc.
Reflect on it.
Unfortunately to attain this solution which you dream about a
messanger has to come as said in the Quaran and Bible.
There has to be a RETURN OF CHRIST.
Now think about the Bahai faith: may be you will discover something.
Arindam

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: snoopy@unlv.edu (Ramesh Viswanathan)
Subject: Re:  Multi System VCRs ?
Organization: UNLV
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 17:43:32 GMT

Check out the Panasonic AG-W1 Multi-system commercial quality VHS VCR
system.  It replays a tape recorded in any format and displays to a
TV/Monitor in any format.  It will also replay tapes recorded in HiFi
or linear stereo mode in any format and reproduce HiFi or stereo sound
(or Monoaural, if so desired) via the Audio outputs.

The last time I checked the system retailed for ~ $1700 + S/H (B&H
Photo, a NY mail-order firm).

--rv
From: un107375@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: New airline
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:57:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <Aug.13.12.00.08.1992.7624@remus.rutgers.edu>, basu@remus.rutgers.edu (sid-darth vader) writes:
> 
> It was in the papers today that United Airlines will
> start operating To New Delhi starting in February. It
> is also introducing a round-the-world air ticket since
> so far only the Indian subcontinent was outside its
> global link.
> 

Was it not Continental which offered the round-the-world air ticket ?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.portuguese
From: raghu@nairobi.eecs.umich.edu (Raghu Mani)
Subject: Re: Origin of the word 'caste' (was Re: Fair and lovely: Remember that face cream ?)
Keywords: color skin
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:08:22 GMT


|> In article <4791@balrog.ctron.com> raja@ctron.com writes:
|> >
|> >To be safe I repost the copyright statement:
|> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> >-
|> >                   Copyright 1992 Newspaper Publishing PLC
|> >                                The Independent
|> >
|> >                             August  2, 1992, Sunday
|> >
|> >Notebook: Michael Jackson: beyond the pale
|> >
|> >By FIAMMETTA ROCCO
|> >
|> >--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> >
|> >	High-caste Indians
|> >	whisper that the low-born have irregular, coarse and fleshy faces. 
|> >	And the very word caste comes from the Portuguese for ''pure stock''. 
|> >	It is linked, etymologically, to the Latin for ''chaste''.
|> >
|> >When did we decide to use the etmylogical analysis based on Portuguese and
|> >Latin for words of Indian-origin ? Use Sanskrit, if needed.
|> >Another one of those careless western distortion with-out regard for a
|> >proper understanding.
|> 
|> >| Raja Seth : raja@balrog.ctron.com

By the way, the Sanskrit word for caste is "varna" which means "color". Apartheid
by another name ..... ? The Sanskrit word certainly suggests it and many 
historians - both Western and Indian - hold that view. The Portugese word "casta"
which according to my dictionary means something like "pure race" comes quite 
close to that interpretation. In this case, at least, the westerners weren't 
all that wrong after all !!

Raghu
From: brajago@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LOOKING FOR A PERSON AT WICHITA
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:37:09 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

	Hi !
		I'm looking for a person( Senthilnathan Thiyagarajan ) 
  at Wichita State univ.,Kansas. He's supposed to be at Wichita now. If
you have any idea about this person do inform me.

Thanks in advance,

Baskar Rajagopalan.    

e-mail add:  brajago@uoft02.utoledo.edu 
Home ph# (419)-292-1501. 
		

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: religious talks
Keywords: n
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:42:58 GMT

>As for my personal choice, 
>1. I have no desire to deal with the 98%.

1] I presume you allude to your classification of mankind.

   You make the mistake of doing what you have been accusing men of doing:
   Judging people on the basis of their sex.

   If men were to judge all women based on the stereotypical few,
   women would turn out to be materialistic, self-seeking, 
   incapable of devotion to work, concerned only for themselves,
   frigid, superficial, interested only in shopping and looking good,
   or honest, loving, altruistic, devoted, brilliant, courageous,
   strong, intelligent and kind,
   depending opon what kind of women one comes into contact with.

   Your bitterness has begun to cloud your judgement, madam.
   People are individuals acting as individuals, men or women later.
   Stop seeing them in terms of their sexes.

   Your outbursts have begun to sound tired and bitter.

[......]

>4. I wouldn't in my SEXIST opinion raise kids in an
>environment that portrays male children as a symbol
>of gift and females as a burden to parents.

2] I can assure you, there are families that have escaped this 
   terrible predicament, with women who think no less of themselves
   than any men, in India. The family has got more to do with 
   a persons sense of self-esteem than anything anybody else says
   or does. 

>
>p.s. For those people who have deduced that I am a
>"NAZI FEMINIST"/"ANTI_RELIGIOUS SCIENTIST" etc. etc.'
>please continue to add to that list.  In doing so
>I am more and more convinced that I made the right
>choice.  At least here, you don't total to be 98%

3] Madam, to be taken seriously as a feminist you have to show some
   understanding of the problems facing women and some understanding 
   of how these problems can be solved. Your chronic complaining 
   and bitterness only makes you appear as a maladjusted individual.
   You have done nothing other than trash men so far.
   It takes more to be a feminist. Nazi or otherwise.


>savithri

4] Stay Cool.
   Hoping to see more constructive posts from you.
From: vemuri@informix.com (Sudhakar Vemuri)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Passport renewal
Keywords: Passport
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:10:15 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.


I applied for renewal of my passport at Indian Consulate at San Fransisco.
They renewd it for an year, while I thought that they would do it for 5
years as in India. They said that since I was holding a B1 visa, this is
the procedure.

Now, my employer is going to process my H1 visa for a period of 3 years.
Will my passport expiry (within a year) cause any problems for H1 visa
processing ?

Please reply me ---> vemuri@informix.com

Thanks

Sudhakar Vemuri
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: atri@eecs.umich.edu (Atri Indiresan)
Subject: Ram Lak^Han: The sequel (was Re: SIMPLY TESTNG)
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 16:03:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.093322.21754@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> paulchem@tramp.Colorado.EDU (PARANCHUTTY U. LICHEMMANATHIL) writes:

And Ram Lak^Han rides again! But, this time, the Icarus doesn't hide
his tracks well enough -- apparently, he didn't even try.

Atri

>   I AM JUST ARRIVVING FROM KERALA, THE SOUTH STATE OF INDIA !! I AM
>LIKING TO MEET MANY OTHERS FROM OURHOME COUNTRY.  AM NOT SEEING MUCH
>OF AMERICA YET, BUT THE PEOPLES ARE WEARING MANY VERY SMALL CLOTHES
>AND ARE VERY OPEN AND ATRACCTIVE LOOKING.  AMERICA IS MUCH LIKE THE
>FILM EZZAN KADDALINDE KARRE. THEY ARE ALL SAYING HI OR ASKING HOW IT
>IS GOING ON FIRST MEETING.  IS THIS SIGN OF FRIENDSHIP OR JUST SIMPLY
>POLITEESS ???!!!?? I HAVE SOME WARRATHE KHAYAS AND OTHER SWEET FRUITS
>FROM KERALA, SORRY I CANN
>
>
>
>
>
>
>   RE WITH YOU PEOPLES.  WAITING FOR REPLIES VERY SOON FOR YOUR KIND VIEWS ON SUCH THINGS.      :OO  PARANCHU,
>
>
>   :wq:wq :WQ
>   quiexit
>   :ZZ
>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.caribbean