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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 20:41:39 EDT
From:         "Cathy Brandt" <CBRAN00@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      thanks and more

Well, well, have received more greetings and am grateful.  Always glad to have
additional ones if there are others who wish to send a hello.  I've received
greetings from three countries other than the USA.  The kids will just be
amazed.  I can hardly wait!

The KIDS will be responding to each of the greetings.  So, to those who have
written - we will write back.  It will take us some time.  But, we *will*
respond.  This is all new to the kids.  Today our guest reader read us a story
called, "Special Delivery."  It was about how mail traveled from pigeons to
modern day mail service.  (The kids love the Pony Express part)  The story even
included email!  So, they were thrilled to know they would soon be participat -
ing in that.  Our guest reader and the other visitor have access to email.  So,
they told the kids they would write to them.

The excitement is building!  Just wait until next week when we read all of the
greetings, flag them on the map - AND find out we can communicate with each of
you to send a Thanks!

My genius (the one who is smarter than me) is already too excited because I
have him and another advanced student involved in a Weather project via KIDSNET
He's alreay working harder on his grammar so he can send "good messages people
will understand."

Isn't this great!!!!!!!!  O.K.  Sorry, I'll try to NOT bore you with many
teacher stories now that school has begun.  But, they are just tooooo fun.

So, thanks again!  And by the way, Bryce, I don't think I posted you or
mentioned it here - but I have really appreciated and enjoyed your last few
posts.

Sincerely,
Cathy Brandt
cbran00@ukcc.uky.edu

Teacher of children who are about to embark upon a whole new world!
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:55:16 EDT
From:         -- <sipb7@ATHENA.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: clueless?
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              29 Aug 92 21:49:37 +0700. <9208291853.AA04249@Athena.MIT.EDU>

	 Seth and others bemoan and ridicule hearing people who, when
    conversing with a deaf person, focus their interest and questions on her
    deafness and mode of communication.

I should add that there are some cases where this might be
appropriate; for instance, if I suddenly became deaf and went to an
audiologist to find out what was going on, every question the doctor
asks *should* be related to my deafness; my health insurance company
isn't paying this guy to make small talk with me.

	 I don't have the messages in front of me, but I think Seth said
    something to the effect that it's an ignorant and inconsiderate thing for
    hearing people to do (which I suppose is what he means by "clueless hearing
    people").

Well, there is a difference between being inconsiderate and being
ignorant/clueless.  Although persistant rudeness and persistant
cluelessness seem to correlate well....

--
::: A fundamentalist preacher who can't read Hebrew deserves as much  :::
::: attention as a heart surgeon who has never handled a stethoscope. :::
seth gordon  <sipb7@athena.mit.edu>   . . . these opinions for rent
the learning center for deaf children . . . associate teacher-counselor
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Date:         Sat, 29 Aug 1992 21:49:37 IST
From:         Lew Golan <LEW@TAUNIVM.BITNET>
Subject:      clueless?

     Food for thought:
     Depending on your point of view, this is either a case of wanting to
have your cake and eat it, too...or what's sauce for the goose is sauce for
the gander.

     Seth and others bemoan and ridicule hearing people who, when
conversing with a deaf person, focus their interest and questions on her
deafness and mode of communication.
     I don't have the messages in front of me, but I think Seth said
something to the effect that it's an ignorant and inconsiderate thing for
hearing people to do (which I suppose is what he means by "clueless hearing
people").

     What, then, of deaf people who make their deafness and communication
mode the most important parts of their identity?
     Is it okay for deaf people to focus attention on their deafness and
way of communicating (Deaf pride, Deaf culture, ASL, whatever), but not for
hearing people to do so?
     Aren't such deaf people, intentionally or not, encouraging hearing
people to view them as deaf signers rather than as ordinary human beings?

Lew Golan, Tel-Aviv University <lew@vm.tau.ac.il>
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From:         Alan Goldschen <ajg@SEAS.GWU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: definition of a vowel
              Sep 3, 92 7:02 pm

>
> Bryce, and everyone else:
>
>
> vowel n 1 any one of the human speech sounds
>    in which the breath is let out without any
>    stop or any closing of the air passage in
>    the mouth or throat that can be heard: The
>    simple vowel sounds of British English are
>    represented in this dictionary by {/i:,{ I,
>    { e,{ $,{ A:,{ Q,{ C:,{ U,{ u:,{ V,{ G:,{
>    E/ 2 infml a letter used for representing
>    any of these: The vowels in the English
>    alphabet are a, e, i, o, u, and, sometimes,
>     y -compare CONSONANT, DIPHTHONG
> (c) Longman
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Bosco.
>
> John Bosco Keown,
> IBM UK Laboratories, Ltd., Hursley Park, Winchester, England.,
> Internet: keown@winvmc.vnet.ibm.com
> BITNET  : KEOWN at VNET
>

Let's not forget that it is important between a phone/phoneme and alphabet
letter of a vowel.  Make sure that the context is clear, one is for writing
and other is for sound.

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Alan Goldschen                       e-mail: ajg@seas.gwu.edu
Department of EE and CS              Graduate Student
George Washington University
801 22nd Street N.W.
Washington, D.C. 20052
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 22:35:28 EDT
From:         "Dave Windley, Data Comm Specialist X799" <AADW@CATCC.BITNET>
Subject:      Patience at work

>
Seth sez:

> I am the only hearing person on TLC's weekday residential staff.  Last
> fall, I sat through a number of department meetings (and one--ugh--
> camping trip) conducted entirely in ASL, with no voice interpreter.
> It was not fun.
>
> (Go on, admit it.  You're glad the tables are turned.  :-)
>
> My ASL is improving, but I still can't participate in group
> discussions very well; it's like there's a "pipeline" in my brain, so
> by the time I understand someone's comment, or realize that I *don't*
> understand something, it's too late for me to say anything, the topic
> has drifted.  (Or I say to myself: "My God!  I understand what they're
> saying!" and distract myself, and lose the thread of the conversation
> again.  :-)  I try to deal with this by asking a co-worker, 1:1, what
> happened at a given meeting.

      Seth:

      Why not try picking up some bits and pieces of the
      conversations.  Eventually, you will get the general idea of
      what is going on.  Soon, you will be able to understand more
      and more.  Deaf people will notice your sincerity, and
      encourage you and help to explain.

      It worked for me, so why not give it a try?
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   Dave Windley,                       Catonsville Community College
      Data Communications Specialist          800 South Rolling Road
      Sign Interpreter                     CATONSVILLE MD 21228-9987
      GLBO Co-Founder                          Voice: (410) 455-4799
      ITR Club Vice President                             AADW@CATCC
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:23:18 EDT
From:         "Tilak Ratnanather" <tratnana@EUREKA-GOLD.WBME.JHU.EDU>
Subject:      re: tongue shape
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Martin:

I echo Henry's recommendation that you get hold of "Experiments in Hearing".
May I add another book that is used as in introductory courses: An introduction
to the physiology of hearing by James O Pickles. It is a well written book and
before I came to Hopkins, I found that the first five chapters made great
 reading
while commuting on the London Underground!

Tilak
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Date:         Wed, 26 Aug 1992 11:31:01 BST
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From:         amt5man@SUN.LEEDS.AC.UK
Subject:      1897

I sent this message on 7th August 1992.  I left town.  It bounced.  I came
back.  I repost it.


I don't have the 1898 rules to hand, so I'm not too sure how the rule's have
been changed, but here are some comments on the proposals for an 1897
variant.

(1) STARTING POSITIONS

(a) It has long been recognised that one of the major problems with the
    regular board is the Ven/Tri problem.  Many variants have been designed
    which attempt to eliminate this problem by redrawing that part of the
    map.  (Abstraction, Milan, Croatia, Davis et al).

    If anything the problem will be worse in 1897, you have to go for as
    many centers as possible in this variant to get as good a position as
    possible in 1899 and you can't afford to lose any of your centers.
    A 1898 stab by either Austria/Italy on the other will be devestating.

    The solution is simple.  The starting positions need to be such that
    Austria and Italy do not start with adjacent supply centers.

(b) The distribution of non-supply centers is going to create an
    imbalence in the game.  It's far better to start *near* a huge chunk
    of centers.

    We can go some way towards eliminating this problem by giving some powers
    a choice of initial supply center.

    I suggest that England, France, Germany,
    and Italy be allowed to chose their initial
    supply center.  (Any of their normal 1901 centers)

    Russia should be allowed to chose any initial center accept St.P.

    Austria and Turkey present something of a problem.  I'm not too happy
    with the prospect of Turkey starting in Con, but I'll let it pass for
    the moment.  (Perhaps Smy would create a more ballenced opening position?)
    I would be tempted to restrict Austria to owning either Tri or Vie
    (but most definitely not *Ser*).

    You will notice that means that a player could chose to start in a
     non-coastal province.  I think that this gives the players more options
    and creates more scope for Diplomacy.  In my version the game would
    start with a period of Diplomacy before Winter 1898 builds.  After this
    Diplomacy the game would start with players chosing their initial
    supply centers.  The game would then proceed as per the 1897 rules.

    (I shall be away for ten days starting Monday so there will be a delay
     before I respond to any feed-back.  Please be patient!)

   Mark.


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signon dipl-l ewn@cornella.cit.cornell.edu
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From:         amt5man@SUN.LEEDS.AC.UK
Subject:      Two Five Player Variants

Due to ever increasing old-age I can't remember if I have posted these
two five-player variants before...

===========================================================================
                        FIVE-MAN DIPLOMACY rf01/05
                         BY ALAN CALHAMER

A. The 5-Man Diplomacy Game as given in the 1961 Rulebook.

   1.  Bul, Rum, and *all* of Russia and Turjey are omitted from the
       playing board.  Finland is *not* considered part of Russia.
       Black Sea and Aegen are *directly* connected.  (Black Sea has no
       use other than as a Retreat space for a dislodged (AEG).)

   2.  There are 25 remaining Supply Centers.

   3.  First player to own 13 Supply Centers at the end of a Fall move is
       the winner.
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Comment by Fred C.Davis Jnr in Bushwacker 199 (July 1988).

   Suggested optional rule.  Give Finland a north coast touching
Barents Sea.  This makes that province more useful.  Finland did have a
n.c until 1940 when Russia took it back.

Retyped for email distribution by Mark Nelson
<amt5man@sun.ecusun.leeds.ac.uk> on 23rd July 1992
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===========================================================================
                        FIVE-MAN DIPLOMACY REVISED rf04/05
                         BY ALAN CALHAMER and FRED C.DAVIS JNR

A. The 5-Man Diplomacy Game as given in the 1961 Rulebook.

   1.  Moscow, Sev, Ukraine, Rumania and all of Turkey are impassable.
       Finland, Livonia and St. Pete are passable, but St. Pete is *not*
       a Supply Center.  Warsaw is passable and a *neutral* SC, i.e.,
       Poland.  Black Sea and Aegean are *directly* connected.
       (Bulgaria has a Black Sea coast).

   2.  There are 27 remaining Supply Centers.

   3.  First player to own 14 Supply Centers at the end of a Fall move is
       the winner.
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The game Diplomacy sounds interesting.  Could you send me some more info on
it.  Thanks

Pieter Bickford
PBICKFO1@ITH
PBICKFO1@ITHACA (scratch the above userid)
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:19:00 CDT
From:         Ray Hamel <RHAMEL@MACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      Summary of Law and Order films

In the spirit of preventing multiple postings of film titles
of this subject, here is a list of titles posted so far:

Accused, The
Act of Murder, An
Adam's Rib
All That Money Can Buy
Anatomy of a Murder
And Justice For All
Bonfire of the Vanities
Breaker Morant
Caine Mutiny, The
Class Action
Court Martial of Billy Mitchell, The
Criminal Law
Dance With A Stranger
Fish Called Wanda, A
Flight of the Navigator
From The Hip
I Want To Live
Inherit the Wind
Jagged Edge
Jesus of Nazareth
JFK
Judgment at Nuremburg
Kramer vs. Kramer
L'Aveu
Legal Eagles
Let Him Have It
Madame X
Miracle on 34th Street
Music Box, The
My Cousin Vinny
Nuts
Oklahoma!
Paths of Glory
Presumed Innocent
Reversal of Fortune
Section Speciale
Star Chamber, The
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Stir Crazy
Suspect
To Kill A Mockingbird
Twelve Angry Men
Untouchables, The
Verdict, The
Witness for the Prosecution

Ray Hamel
University of Wisconsin
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From: MKERBEL@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Michael)
Subject: Re: INVASION OF B. SNATCHERS (Scope?)
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Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 09:25:36 EDT

In article <01GOCSL4S2NC8WXHY1@VAX1.ACS.JMU.EDU>
FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET writes:
 
>
>Thanks for the clarification, Michael, about Voyager's incorrect 'scope
>example on _Body Snatchers_.  Now one further point to pick:  Am  I mis-
>understanding that the "anamorphic" widescreen process does _not_ involve
>masking the 35mm frame, but instead a lens that compresses the image into
>that frame, then later (a comparable lens?) expands it for playback?
>'Cause that's what I thought it was...  Jeff Clark
 
 - You are exactly right.  The Anamorphic widescreen process (Cinemascope,etc)
involves using an anamorphic lens to squeeze a wide image onto a 35mm (or
16mm or even 70mm) frame, then using an anamorphic lens to unsqueeze it for
projection.  The point I was trying to make about INVASION OF THE BODY
SNATCHERS (and I probably didn't explain it too well) is that the film was
not photographed with an Anamorphic lens.  It was filmed normally.  Then, in
order to make the so-called Superscope prints, they masked top and bottom,
creating the scope ratio, then reprinted it onto a normal frame using an
Anamorphic squeeze, thereby creating a Scope print.  Is this a little clearer?
(Actually, they didn't create the scope ratio -- Superscope was something like
2:1, whereas Cinemascope was something like 2.35:1.)
The one thing I don't understand is why Criterion-Voyager would go through the
trouble to create a fake example, especially when there are so many genuine
examples of Cinemascope films ruined by panning and scanning (REBEL WITHOUT A
CAUSE, EAST OF EDEN, JULES AND JIM, NASHVILLE, CHINATOWN, etc. etc.)
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From:         Anjani Chandra <QAI@NIHCU.BITNET>
Subject:      Barton Fink

Any opinions on Barton Fink?  I watched it last night.
I thought it was pretty amusing for the most part, but
I still can't decide what to make of the ending.

--Anjani
From: eeijsh@EEIUC.ERICSSON.SE (John Smyth)
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Subject: BOYZ 'N THE HOOD
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:02:43 GMT
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>I just saw BOYZ N' THE HOOD on video and I'm convinced that this
>film has more of an impact at home on one's TV than in the theater -
>I think it's a great film - Terrific acting and the direction couldn't
>be beat - Really quite amazing - Does anybody remember a quote from Steven
>Speilberg who said something like "It's nice that somebody made a little
>film like BOYZ N' THE HOOD, but what America needs is a film like HOOK"
>Anyway - if you haven't seen it do so -

>Peter.Giordano@WILLIAMS.EDU

I  agree completely, Peter (except with S. Speilberg) - it's a
great movie. I saw the movie (only on video) a couple of days before
seeing Jungle Fever (dir.Spike Lee). I thought that Lee's movie
preached too much at the audience. In addition, the drug addict brother
of the main character was a caricature. Compared to BOYZ 'N THE HOOD,
and also Mario Van Peebles' NEW JACK CITY, the handling of drug addiction
in JUNGLE FEVER was very poor.
                             In fact, both NEW JACK CITY and BOYZ 'N THE HOOD
handled serious issues, conveying genuine hope, despair,love and hate without
ramming facts down the audiences' throats. In contrast, I felt that JUNGLE FEVER
was just a thinly disguised lecture on Lee's views on inter-racial relationships
rather than a well-balanced tale.
                          As an aside, it's interesting to contrast the
 depiction
of the drug trade in NEW JACK CITY with Schrader's LIGHT SLEEPER, in terms of
 the
violence associated with trafficking and the effect of drug-dealing on both the
producer and the consumer. Any comments ?
                                            John Smyth
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From: MKERBEL@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Michael)
Subject: Re: Fritz Lang-Cinemascope (was Cocteau)
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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 15:26:55 EDT

In article <01GO8FKFIEZO8WWMUK@SNYONEVA.BITNET>
FISHERKJ@SNYONEVA.BITNET writes:
>
>>As for WHILE THE CITY SLEEPS, I think that was made in Superscope.  This
>>was a process (used mostly by RKO), in which a film was shot in the normal
>>aspect ratio, then masked at top and bottom, so that they could make
>>Cinemascope prints.
>
>Wasn't this also the principle of VistaVision?
>
>kjf-
 
 Vistavision was something different.  As I understand it, the frame was
arranged differently on the strip of film than normally: that is, instead of
being perpendicular to the strip, it was arranged parallel to the strip.
Therefore, the image could be wider than the 35mm film would normally
accommodate. (I wish I could draw a picture -I'm not very good in explaining
technical matters.)  Anyway, unlike Cinemascope or Superscope, Vistavision
did not require an Anamorphic lens for projection.  Vistavision was not as wide
as Cinemascope or Superscope, but it did have a greater clarity of image.
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From:         the Freshman Scott Huddle <huddle@VTTCF.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Black Adder
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"Wireless" the mail order catalog somehow related to Public Radio
has had tapes of the series for their last few issues.

-scott
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From:         "FINTAN AYLWARD EXT.1231" <eei.eeifad@MEMO.ERICSSON.SE>
Subject:      Truly Madly D
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Sorry folks the title of the memo should be TRULY MADLY D
not COEN BROTHERS as orginally sent.

Actually made before Ghost Truly Madly.. was seem as the Britsh
version of Ghost. The film ifself should be rename Truly Bloody
Crap. It is over sentimental and totally miscast. Juillet
Stevennson or Stevens (i'm not sure) is whining idiot and is
not a character you could get to like. Alan Rickmann is
completely out of character and should stick to playing villans.
You wish about half way through the film  he would die again
which thank God he does at the end. For a film that was suppose
to be a comedy it raises about three laughs throughout the film.
Even though the film is made before Ghost it comes across as a
cheep immataion and merely illusrates the decline in Britsh, films
especially comedy, in recent years. What began as an orginal
idea, it ends up a terrible screenplay, with poor direction
and totally miscast actors. The film itself was so brutal that
it ended up been shown on TV within the same year as it's
Britsh cinima release.

                                 Regards
                                    Fintan
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Subject:      Re: Films about Frontiers

Subj:   RE: Films about Frontiers

>        Now, I was otherwise confused in that message when I nominated
>        THE DEEP. I was actually thinking of another underwater adventure
>        which title also eludes me. Ed Harris and Michael Biehn wer both
>

It's called THE ABYSS.
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 11:53:00 CDT
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Subject:      Re: Joe's good news

What network is Mystery Science Theater 3000 on?

mbmcd
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