HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gsparaco@cardinal.sc107.wesleyan.edu
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: More Good News
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:25:43 GMT
Organization: Wesleyan University, Middletown, CT USA


  
	I have only five more weeks till I begin studing at the Gettysburg 
Lutheran Theological Seminary.  Till then, I will spend two weeks in 
Maryland with friends, and my fiancee will be coming back from Russia in 
three weeks.  
gerry sparaco
email via: dfarrell@eagle.wesleyan.edu
								*********
From: palmyra@cbmvax.commodore.com (Palmyra Pawlik)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: In a Democracy, it's called "Freedom of Speech"
Date: 29 Jul 92 16:12:38 GMT
Reply-To: palmyra@cbmvax.UUCP (Palmyra Pawlik)
Organization: Commodore Technology, West Chester, PA


After a couple of very stressful weeks at work, I finally had
a chance to sit down and peek at my favorite news groups,
desperately seeking something pleasant to take my mind off
of all the activity at work.  Finding that Richard had been
asked/persuaded/forced to quit posting his stories was NOT
the good news that I was looking for.

I do not wish to debate the issue of what *should* be *considered*
good news.  I WOULD like to know where he will be posting his
stories.  I enjoy reading them very much and pass them on to 
several friends of mine who do not have access to the net.  If 
someone could please tell me which other groups he posts to, I 
would appreciate it. 

In closing, I would like to make a couple of small but important points...

  1) We all have different definitions of "good news"
       - Richard's stories happened to fit into my definition.

  2) Everyone has the right to post to news and the responsibility
     not to infringe on the rights of others.  
       - I fail to see where Richard has crossed that line.  
         If anything, it seems that it was his rights that were
         violated.

And in the end, he has accomplished what he has always set out 
to do, cause controversy and stir up stagnant minds and emotions.

Just my opinions but personal opinions are what started all of
this in the first place.  That's something to think about.
 
_______________________________________________________________________________
       palmyra pawlik          | "Ascend above the restrictions and conventions 
palmyra@cbmvax.commodore.com   |  of the world, but not so high as to lose  
    Software Engineering       |  sight of them."                           
 insert standard disclaimer    |                      - Richard Garnett
_______________________________________________________________________________




  
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: In a Democracy, it's called "Freedom of Speech"
Followup-To: alt.config
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:28:48 GMT

note that several pieces of his work has recently appeared in alt.prose -
which is the appropriate forum for fictional or factual writing of this
type.  Now THAT's good news - folks who want to read the material have
a place to do so, folks who want to read good news in the good news group
don't have to.  I can't see what the fuss is all about - but CERTAINLY
discussing the fuss here is NOT good news - try alt.config or alt.censorship
for that.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: Peter Marko <pmarko@bnr.ca>
Subject: My Baby Wrote Me A Letter...
Organization: Northern Telecom Canada Ltd.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b3
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:13:26 GMT

Hey folks, guess what!

I am FLYING 'home' to be with my SOUL MATE a week from today!!  I haven't
seen her for the past two months!!!

Is this good news, or what?

:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
:) :) :) 
 :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
:) :) :) 
  :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
:) :) :)

Peter Marko
Telephone: (613)763-5344
Internet: pmarko@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser)
Subject: NOT banned on alt.prose!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:45:36 GMT


   I know there's at least one or two of you out there who are mildly
interested in reading my stories...they're all on alt.prose, which is my
main location of fiction posting, where I am not banned! Feel free to 
check out alt.prose for any stories which have been censored on alt.good.news.

-- 
Richard J. Rauser       "You have no idea what you're doing."
rauser@sfu.ca           "Oh, don't worry about that. We're professional 
WNI                        outlaws - we do this for a living."
--------
BANNED from alt.good.news! Censorship is alive and well on Usenet!
From: vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: New computer!
Date: 24 Jul 92 03:13:43 EDT

Yeah, I splurged and bought a 40MHz 386 DX :)

I feel like a real computer owner now :) :) :) :) ... Infinity

-Garrett
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: Re: No more short stories from rauser@sfu.ca
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:24:21 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization


In article <1992Jul29.122103.8154@ornl.gov> de5@ORNL.GOV (Dave Sill)
writes:
>
> If everyone followed this silly line of reasoning, we'd have a mess
> of ill-defined, incoherent newsgroups.  Why would we even need
> multiple newsgroups?  We could just have one big newsgroup, and
> everyone could skip what they didn't want to read.  The net would be
> less informative and useful for the great majority of participants.

No, it is a matter of convenience.

It is convenient for me, who happens to find Rauser's stories
interesting, to have them right here.

It is convenient for you to type ^K (or whatever is appropriate in your
newsreader) if you don't like them.  In fact, it's a Hell of a lot more
convenient than whining to his sysadmin.

It is not convenient to do this for all of USENET, because, while I
don't want to read what person X posts to alt.sex.bondage, I may want
to read what he posts to comp.unix.aix.

> Call me a net.cop if you want, but that's the way it is.

In your world, perhaps.

-- 
- Charles Hannum, mycroft@ai.mit.edu
  White atheist male (WAM) pride!
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: techno@zelator.in-berlin.de (Frank Dahncke)
Subject: Re: New computer!
Organization: Puplic-Access-Xenix-System
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 16:28:58 GMT

In <13077.2a6f7567@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> vancleef@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:

>Yeah, I splurged and bought a 40MHz 386 DX :)

>I feel like a real computer owner now :) :) :) :) ... Infinity

>-Garrett
Hey !, this is for *good* news only !

								 Techno

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Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: kuch@reed.edu (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Life, Oh Good News
Organization:  The Middle Ages House of Gruel--Home of Pitch Fried Rat Suprise
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:08:48 GMT

Hyeeenennghgh....  my eyeballs are swollen and red...  and I think my liver
is diseased...  But I will not see doctors....  not because I'm not 
superstitious enough to believe in them... but out of spite... spite for
whom you may ask?  Spite for myself...

Unnnggghhh....


-- 
Jerry Kuch (t-gerldk@microsoft.com) | "Sic Gorgianus Allos Subjectatus Nunc."
  "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
   Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet." - Montgomery Burns
From: phineas@brombeer.bofe.sub.org
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: Re: AIDS: What the Government Isn't Telling You
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:09:03 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: King Ralphs Palace , Munich

Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov> writes:

> I heard an interesting talk show this morning concerning a new book
> titled "What the Government Isn't Telling You About AIDS."  The author of
> the book, Dr. Lorraine Day of UC San Francisco, offered her findings on
> the air and fielded questions from listeners.  According to her, research
> has shown that the AIDS virus is not a fragile virus and that it may
> survive up to 7 days in a dry environment and up to 14 days in a moist
> one.  It follows from this that AIDS may be transmitted through all types
> of bodily fluids and not just through blood.  She mentions other
> interesting findings on AIDS which she says the government is
> intentionally hiding from the public.  Her findings are all based on
> clinincal documentation done around the world.  Her book may be ordered
> by phone at (800) 537-2437.  I hope people who have heard anything about
> Dr. Day or her book will post their thoughts to this newsgroup.


Hey, these AREN'T good news. I believe and I really hope this isn't
true.

Stephan.


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Stephan Freundorfer                     phineas@brombeer.bofe.sub.org
Munich/Germany
+49 89-7256359               "Vertrauen sie mir, ich weiss was ich tue"
From: Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: AIDS: What the Government Isn't Telling You
Date: 27 Jul 1992 20:19:23 GMT
Organization: LBL
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 131.243.64.95
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1

I heard an interesting talk show this morning concerning a new book
titled "What the Government Isn't Telling You About AIDS."  The author of
the book, Dr. Lorraine Day of UC San Francisco, offered her findings on
the air and fielded questions from listeners.  According to her, research
has shown that the AIDS virus is not a fragile virus and that it may
survive up to 7 days in a dry environment and up to 14 days in a moist
one.  It follows from this that AIDS may be transmitted through all types
of bodily fluids and not just through blood.  She mentions other
interesting findings on AIDS which she says the government is
intentionally hiding from the public.  Her findings are all based on
clinincal documentation done around the world.  Her book may be ordered
by phone at (800) 537-2437.  I hope people who have heard anything about
Dr. Day or her book will post their thoughts to this newsgroup.
From: shimkevi@buchmf.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: Re: AIDS: What the Government Isn't Telling You
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:12:30 GMT
Organization: Boston University Chemistry Department

In article <24946@dog.ee.lbl.gov> etjue@lbl.gov (Eric T. Jue) writes:

>I heard an interesting talk show this morning concerning a new book
>titled "What the Government Isn't Telling You About AIDS." 

Ah, yes, the Government...

>According to her, research
>has shown that the AIDS virus is not a fragile virus and that it may
>survive up to 7 days in a dry environment and up to 14 days in a moist
>one.

What research did she cite? 
  
>It follows from this that AIDS may be transmitted through all types
>of bodily fluids and not just through blood. 

Of course the virus is present in all types of bodily fluids, this is common
knowledge, unless your exclusive source of information are those one-page
booklets. The concentration of the virus in these fluids (like saliva) is very
low as compared to blood, so the actual chances of getting infected are very
low (one or even one hundred viruses won't infect you).

>She mentions other
>interesting findings on AIDS which she says the government is
>intentionally hiding from the public. 

If the government is hiding these findings, how did she find out? There is a
lot of info on AIDS, but, of course, you have to spend some time in the
library. It is so easy to blame the government and not your own laziness and
ignorance. 

As far as the book is concerned, raising panic and making money off it is
simply disgusting.

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// Ryan: What is it to you, demon?       //// Sergei Shimkevich             //
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Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: plkp@wam.umd.edu (Kathleen F. Powers)
Subject: Re: In a Democracy, it's called "Freedom of Speech"
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:51:05 GMT


 I read with interest the recent discussion on the short story
controversy.  One point, however, was not mentioned and I'd like
to raise it.  Richard's stories really weren't my cup of tea in
that I'd never check a book of them out of the library.  But
any literate person could see that his stories were cohesive,
cogent and well-written.  I do applaud the fact that someone could
--and did--write something worth publishing.  Maybe the real good
news in all of this is that he can produce something worthwhile
when the rest of us couldn't.  Richard--keep up the writing and I,
for one, wish you the best of luck and a more appreciative forum
in the future.
-*-Kathleen-*-
Springfield, VA
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: Re: AIDS: What the Government Isn't Telling You
Summary: It's good news, all right.
Date: 31 Jul 1992 14:24:07 GMT
Organization: Rice University

In article <sHaqoB1w165w@brombeer.bofe.sub.org> phineas@brombeer.bofe.sub.org writes:
>Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov> writes:
>
>> I heard an interesting talk show this morning concerning a new book
>> titled "What the Government Isn't Telling You About AIDS."  The author of
>> the book, Dr. Lorraine Day of UC San Francisco, offered her findings on
>> the air and fielded questions from listeners.  According to her, research
>> has shown that the AIDS virus is not a fragile virus and that it may
>> survive up to 7 days in a dry environment and up to 14 days in a moist
>> one.  It follows from this that AIDS may be transmitted through all types
>> of bodily fluids and not just through blood.  She mentions other
>> interesting findings on AIDS which she says the government is
>> intentionally hiding from the public.  Her findings are all based on
>> clinincal documentation done around the world.  Her book may be ordered
>> by phone at (800) 537-2437.  I hope people who have heard anything about
>> Dr. Day or her book will post their thoughts to this newsgroup.
>
>
>Hey, these AREN'T good news. I believe and I really hope this isn't
>true.

That's the good news -- "Doctor" Day is peddling a lie.  (If she was
anywhere near being right, we'd have on the order of 50 million AIDS cases
in *this country* right now.)


-- 
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     +1 713 528-3626 at Rice. 776-1541 at home. 667-6554 at Palace Lanes. 

              Hit this .sig and win a free trip to Dewalt, Texas!
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: danoc@earlybird.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan O'Connell [CONTRACTOR])
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: Re: No more short stories from rauser@sfu.ca
Date: 28 Jul 92 22:36:23 GMT
Organization: Spoilsport Hunters
NNTP-Posting-Host: earlybird

(Dave Sill) writes:

>I got tired of the short stories being posted to this group by Richard Rauser
>(rauser@sfu.ca) so I decided to do something about it.

 [ first he asked him ]

>Then I appealed to the administration of Simon Fraser University's network. 
>They contacted him, and he said he'd stop.  In the interests of fairness, I'll
>include a portion of Mr. Rauser's response to them:

Well Gee, you sure are a wet blanket. I suppose using your "k" 
key was just to much work for you, huh? You must be pretty
pleased with yourself. Guess things are kind of slow in support
over there.

Dano
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: joycel@bnr.ca (Joyce Leung)
Subject: Re: Its my birthday!
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:22:33 GMT

In article <13865@borg.cs.unc.edu> gilgenba@cs.unc.edu (Emma Gilgenbach) writes:
>Yeah! its my birthday today! And even though I've smostly spent it working, I got
>to at least work at home this morning, and when I did come in, I found some
>lovely messages waiting for me on the e-mail.
>PS I'm 32 years old today. Haven't reached my peak yet!
>
>Emma

Congrats!!!! Happy Birthday.
From: rone@nunki.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: Re: Free clue!
Date: 31 Jul 1992 02:00:23 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nunki.usc.edu
Keywords: Please take one.

In article <1992Jul30.092847.28330@cco.caltech.edu> matthew@cco.caltech.edu (Matthew John Derer) writes:
>Don't be a Fascist!!  Newgroup alt.fan.rick-rauser!!

You clearly have no clue (but we knew that, since you're giving them out free)
about the alt.fan hierarchy.  You probably meant alt.fan.dave-sill

5150
alt.fan.matt-derer doesn't have that ring to it
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: kuch@reed.edu (Jerry Kuch)
Subject: Re: No more short stories from rauser@sfu.ca
Organization: The Medieval House of DOS
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:08:43 GMT

In article <l7biv7INNd0@appserv.Eng.Sun.COM> danoc@earlybird.Eng.Sun.COM (Dan O'Connell [CONTRACTOR]) writes:
>(Dave Sill) writes:
>
>>I got tired of the short stories being posted to this group by Richard Rauser
>>(rauser@sfu.ca) so I decided to do something about it.
>
> [ first he asked him ]
>
>>Then I appealed to the administration of Simon Fraser University's network. 
>>They contacted him, and he said he'd stop.  In the interests of fairness, I'll
>>include a portion of Mr. Rauser's response to them:
>
>Well Gee, you sure are a wet blanket. I suppose using your "k" 
>key was just to much work for you, huh? You must be pretty
>pleased with yourself. Guess things are kind of slow in support
>over there.
>
>Dano

The funny thing is that I've seen some people post to this group that they
actually enjoyed Rauser's stories.  It disturbs me that the administration
at SFU would be so pinheaded as to crack down on him for his stories.  It's
not like he was riddling USENET with commercial announcements or hate prop-
aganda or something.

Don't like it, don't read it.  Kill files were made for a reason.

-- 
Jerry Kuch (t-gerldk@microsoft.com) | "Sic Gorgianus Allos Subjectatus Nunc."
  "I was wrong to play God.  Life is precious, not a thing to be toyed with.
   Now take out that brain and flush it down the toilet." - Montgomery Burns
From: rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
Subject: Re: No more short stories from rauser@sfu.ca
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:56:20 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada


   Congratulations, Dave! You must be very proud of this accomplishment...
especially how you're bragging about it to everyone on the group. 
Now tell me something...are you going to lodge a complaint about _this_
posting as well?

 
 
Xref: sparky alt.good.news:724 alt.censorship:6528 alt.prose.d:152
From: lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard)
Newsgroups: alt.good.news,alt.censorship,alt.prose.d
Subject: Re: No more short stories from rauser@sfu.ca
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:16:00 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <l7i011INNg5j@nunki.usc.edu>, rone@nunki.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri) writes...
>In article <1992Jul29.122103.8154@ornl.gov> de5@ORNL.GOV (Dave Sill) writes:
>>That's like saying a thief isn't murderer.  So what?  Was what he was doing
>>right?  Is a story a about a girl getting raped by two drunk guys, poisoning
>>one of them, and being killed by cops good news?  Is a story about a prisoner
>>being tortured and executed good news?
> 
>I think so.  It's good news that society is out there, and someone cares enough
>to write good literature on it.  And i think the rest of the readers agree. At
>least, they haven't disagreed.

This is absurd.  Opposing censorship is one thing; approving of everything
that is written is quite another.  (The New Republic's recent editorial on
Ice-T's "Cop Killer" addresses this point rather well.)

Jim Lippard              Lippard@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
Dept. of Philosophy      Lippard@ARIZVMS.BITNET
University of Arizona
Tucson, AZ 85721
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: crawford@church.mitre.org (Randy Crawford)
Subject: Re: NOT banned on alt.prose!
Keywords: quite right
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:52:24 GMT

In article <rauser.712460736@sfu.ca>, rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
> 
>    I know there's at least one or two of you out there who are mildly
> interested in reading my stories...they're all on alt.prose, which is my
> main location of fiction posting, where I am not banned! Feel free to 
> check out alt.prose for any stories which have been censored on alt.good.news.
 
This is precisely the issue.  All along, Mr. Rauser has cross-posted his stories
to alt.prose.  Persons wanting to read stories (especially those which contain a 
substantial amount of bad.news) should have looked there in the first place.  No 
one has been injured nor had his/her rights violated by Rauser's admonition.  His
stories will remain available in alt.prose, where they have always been.  

In the end, Mr. Rauser was censured for not respecting the feelings of others who
were disturbed by his stories, and for disobeying the unwritten law of the Usenet: 
"use the news in the manner that was intended so that everyone may enjoy it."
-- 

| Randy Crawford        crawford@mitre.org
|
| N=1 -> P=NP           703 883-7940
Newsgroups: alt.good.news,alt.censorship,alt.prose.d
From: aultj@rpi.edu (Jim Ault)
Subject: Re: No more short stories from rauser@sfu.ca
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
	<1992Jul29.122103.8154@ornl.gov> <l7i011INNg5j@nunki.usc.edu>
	<31JUL199206163250@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu>
Distribution: world,local
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:11:57 GMT

In article <31JUL199206163250@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu> lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard) writes:

   This is absurd.  Opposing censorship is one thing; approving of everything
   that is written is quite another.  (The New Republic's recent editorial on
   Ice-T's "Cop Killer" addresses this point rather well.)

I agree.  I am glad to see people expressing this point of view.

It is strange that many people complain about material that is not
suitable for a particular newsgroup (such as cascades, or flame-fests,
or crossposts from unrelated newsgroups), and take direct action to
prevent that kind of material from going into that group, and no one
complains about censorship.

And yet, when someone complains about posts that are inappropriate for
alt.good.news, and they are already being posted to alt.prose, still
the anti-censorship people come out with guns a-blazing.  Go figure.

Jim Ault, ITS Systems Programmer, aultj@rpi.edu    <><
Newsgroups: alt.good.news
From: crawford@church.mitre.org (Randy Crawford)
Subject: Re: AIDS: What the Government Isn't Telling You
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:01:01 GMT

In article <24946@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov> writes:
> I heard an interesting talk show this morning concerning a new book
> titled "What the Government Isn't Telling You About AIDS."  The author of
> ...
> I hope people who have heard anything about
> Dr. Day or her book will post their thoughts to this newsgroup.

I have a better idea.  Post followup thoughts to alt.conspiracy.  Post _good_
news to this newsgroup.

Gee.  alt.good.news full of only good news...  No conspiracies, no pitiable
tales of grue, no short stories...

That really would be good news.

Ob. good news: after getting my car stuck in a swollen creek (which crossed
the road on which I was travelling), I learned to avoid similar situations
in the future, and no lasting damage was done (except to my Sunday afternoon).
-- 

| Randy Crawford        crawford@mitre.org
|
| N=1 -> P=NP           703 883-7940
Newsgroups: alt.good.news