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Is anyone aware of any HO scale products lettered for the Colorado
Midland?  I was told by a local hobby shop that Roundhouse released a
few car kits earlier this year, but he said they went quickly.

I am primarily interested in rolling stock, but would like to hear of
any other products (engines, structures) as well.  Alternatively, is
there a source of decals for the CM, so I could roll my own?
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From: johnh@borland.com (John Haskey)
Subject: Shape Memory Wire / Turnout Control
Originator: johnh@genghis.borland.com
Organization: Borland International
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 06:18:17 GMT


Re: Using memory wire for turnout control

I'm kind of late responding to the original poster but hopefully you'll all
find this interesting.

About three months ago I ran across a switch-machine in my local hobby shop 
that used "Shape Memory Wire" to control a model railroad turnout.  The device
was made by EJA Microsystems of Thousand Oaks, CA.  They advertise the machine
for use in HO and N scales.  I assume the short throw of the memory wire would
limit its use in larger scales.  The instructions that come with it cover one
side of an 11 by 14 inch sheet of paper.  If anyone wants more info, please
contact me via e-mail or post here....

								---john.

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From: fredm@progress.COM (Fred Mikkelsen)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Re: Past posts on building a helix?
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:03:08 GMT
Organization: Progress Software Corp.

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Impressive ascization! I like it!

Regarding the helix talk, I was the instigator of a lot of it. I didn't
save the articles, but I have a memory of what was said.

Basically, you need to reconcile a few problems with helix:
1. grade (with corner friction, grade becomes more of a limitation.)
2. footprint (a 4' x 4' chunk of the layout is consumed, minimally.)
3. length of time out of view. (can get boring waiting for a train
	     you can't see.)
4. maintenance. (it's harder to fix track buried in a helix.)

There were a few different designs ranging from heavy construction with
plywood to 1/4" plywood with stiffeners to the sides of the tracks so
clearance is not a problem. My recommendation is to keep the same standard
of strength that is used everywhere else.

Also, dos and don'ts, like, switches in a helix == BAD Idea. Spiral rather
than true helix == possible idea which may make better use of materials.
From: res@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Rich Strebendt)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Re: B&O Historical Society
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:47:28 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Nov17.175141.6410@gw.wmich.edu>, 737ochs@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> In article <1992Nov17.133941.26028@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>, wmcfadde@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (William McFadden) writes:
> > Can someone provide me with information on how to contact the B&O Historical
> > Society, if such a thing exists?
> 
> I'm not a member though, so I don't know what a membership does for you,
> or what kind of information they have available.

As a long-time member (since 1979, according to my membership card)
perhaps I can list out a few of the things that I have gotten from the
Society in return for my modest dues payments:

	The Sentinal - periodic magazine of current and historical
	information.  Includes a Question/Answer column will lots of
	interesting topics covered.  The articles on various cars and
	engines are worth the price of membership in themselves.

	Aperiodic packets of information (reprints of plans,
	schedules, rosters, other B&O RR documents of historical and
	modelling interest).  It is like Christmas to me when one of
	these arrives in my mailbox!

	Discount offers on books covering the B&O.  Usually the books
	are offered in advance of the publication dates, long before
	they appear in any other advertising.

	Discount offers on HO models on which the model manufacturers
	consulted the Society for accuracy.  I have purchased the
	following engines in this way:
		Stuart EMD F-units (both powered and dummy A and B
		  units were offered in F-3's and F-7's)
		Life-Like Alco FA/FB's (including dummy FA's and
		  powered FB's)

	The hope that a unique and interesting (if not always solvent)
	railroad will not be forgotten, at least for a while.

I would also urge any others who are interested in a particular
prototype railroad to look into joining the Historical Society for
that railroad.  In return for your modest dues (which help that
Society stay alive and able to do its work) you connect up with a
tremendous supply of information about that railroad.  Check the
magazine rack at your favorite hobby shop for one of the smaller
circulation, high quality modelling magazines (I want to say it is
the Prototype Modeller Magazine, but I may be mistaken) which has
an entire page listing Railroad Historical Societies with their
mailing addresses.

					Rich Strebendt
					...!att!ihlpb!res
					r.strebendt@att.com
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From: smb@ulysses.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: rec.models.railroad Fortnightly FAQ
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:10:50 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <rec-models-rail_721942081@tahiti.cs.brown.edu>, rjm@cs.brown.edu (Ralph Johnson Marshall) writes:
> 	The stuff above will make the minimum starter set, for about
> 	$100, depending on the engine and cars purchased.  If you want
> 	to go for something slightly more advanced consider adding
> 	some of the following items:
> 
> 	- 2 or so Atlas #4 unpowered turnouts (track switches), about
> 	  $8 each.  Get both left and right handed. 

I'm not sure I agree with this.  For starter layouts, their snap switches
might be a better idea; they match the 18" curvature of the sectional
track, which makes life easier if you're not using flex track.  Also,
if you get unpowered turnouts, especially Atlas, I'd recommend a ground
throw or *something* to provide extra spring pressure.

> 	- Some building kits.  The Atlas passenger station kit is a
> 	  classic kit which is well manufactured and can be built into
> 	  a nice looking kit with a little time.  Probably not too
> 	  good for a young child since it has lots of parts.  Kits run
> 	  $5-15 for simpler ones, much more in some cases.

Include some Testor's liquid glue (also not great around young children;
for that matter, it give me a headache sometimes) and an X-Acto knife.
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From: bwmohle@PacBell.COM (Bruce W. Mohler)
Subject: Re: Bruce Chubb, UCI
Organization: Pacific Bell, San Diego, CA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:15:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.164751.22159@rose.com> paul.ribeiro@rose.com (paul ribeiro) writes:
>
>Date Entered: 11-21-92 11:43
>
>Has anyone here done any programming for Bruce Chubb's
>Universal Computer Interface? I just got the book and
>am interested in what may have already been written
>for use on ibm compatables.
>thanks,
>/Paul
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Paul,

What is the name and ISBN of the book?  Thanks, in advance!

Bruce

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From: nahser@cathv1.im-cathnet.uiowa.edu
Subject: Lionel "O" Gauge engines
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:57:01 GMT
Reply-To: nahser@cathv1.im-cathnet.uiowa.edu
Organization: Cath Lab, U of Iowa, Iowa City, IA

I am just a beginner in railroad collecting and would like some info on the Lionel "O" gauge engines- both the Traditional and Collector's lines.  Many of theTraditional line loco's have a "can" motor that some "experts" say runs well andis long lasting.  The more expensive Collector's line loco's (the new Pennsy GG-1, the Dash-8's and others) have 1-2 Pullmor motors.  Which is the better/stronger/longer lasting motors?  Thanks
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From: andre@king.slc.mentorg.com (Andre' Hut)
Subject: Re: rec.models.railroad Fortnightly FAQ
Followup-To: rec.models.railroad
Organization: /net/king/usr1/andre/.organization
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:18:15

In article <rec-models-rail_721942081@tahiti.cs.brown.edu> rjm@cs.brown.edu (Ralph Johnson Marshall) writes:

   >Train sets
   >----------

   >Q. What should I buy as a gift for somebody who is new to the hobby?

   >(This answer is tailored to HO, since that's what I know about) 

   >	   - Athearn diesel locomotive with "superpower" drive. They make
   >	     a wide range of locomotives, so pick whatever looks good.
   >	     The "superpower" drive means it has flywheels and a heavy 
   >	     weight, both of which make it run better, and it only runs
   >	     about $5 more than the base models.  $25-40

   >	   - Several Athearn car kits.  They make both freight and
   >	     passenger, so pick whetever interests you (or the
   >	     recipient).  Freight cars are about $4-5, passenger $7-10. 

Athearn is probably the best value for the money, but If I had it all over
to do again, I wish I would have bought high quality locomotives, like
Atlas, Stewart, KATO, Life-Like "Proto" etc.   Some Athearn detail
is excellent (GP40,GP50,SW1000,SW1500), but most look like
toys compared to the high quality names.

Athearn cars are good, but I like MDC (Model Die Cast, also known as
Roundhouse) better.  They make more of the modern equipment than
does Athearn.

Perhaps the question should be rephrased as :

	What should someone buy who is new to the hobby?

As a gift, spending close to $100 for a locomotive might be rather
expensive.  

----------

To the FAQ, you should add:

What kind of couplers are best, and for what situtations?

If it's for a trainset that kids will enjoy, I would suggest leaving
the horn-hook couplers on.

Serious model railroaders will use KD's.    Not only do they look
prototypical, but they work better than horn-hooks.  

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From: TSOS@uni-duesseldorf.de (Detlef Lannert)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Re: Marklin
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:09:19 GMT
Organization: Universitaetsrechenzentrum, Heinrich-Heine-Universitaet, Duesseldorf
NNTP-Posting-Host: lannert.rz.uni-duesseldorf.de

In article <1992Nov16.144124.18951@neptune.inf.ethz.ch> rys@apelc8.inf.ethz.ch (Michael Rys) writes:

>In article <56931@olivea.atc.olivetti.com>, pesce@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Leo Pesce) writes:
>|> In article <Bxnwp7.7vp@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, rcsteele@mobius07.math.uwaterloo.ca (Robert C Steele) writes:
>|> > 
>|> > Hi.  Has anyone had any experience with TRIX trains.  They are a Marklin
>
>|> The following companies make Marklin compatible engines:
>|> 
>|> 	Fleischmann
>|> 	Roco
>|> 	Lima (you should see this year production, wow!)
>|> 	Liliput (which was bought by Herpa late last year)
        ^^^^^^^
        doesn't exist any more (Herpa stopped model railways production)
>
>And:
>        HAG (specialized in Swiss trains)
>        Brawa (at least Maerklin's Koef loco is made by Brawa)
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From: 737ochs@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Re: B&O Historical Society
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:51:41 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <1992Nov17.133941.26028@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>, wmcfadde@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (William McFadden) writes:
> Can someone provide me with information on how to contact the B&O Historical
> Society, if such a thing exists?

Here's an address I got out of the book _The Chessie Era_ as of 1990:

B&O Historical Society, P.O. Box 13578, Baltimore, MD 21203

I'm not a member though, so I don't know what a membership does for you,
or what kind of information they have available.

Fred
From: ar134@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Edward Spitzbarth)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Date for new Walthers/Athearn Containers?
Date: 22 Nov 1992 23:32:21 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Has anyone seen or heard of a date of release of the new
Walthers 20 and 53' containers?  

Also, anyone heard a date for more paint schemes for Athearn's
containsers (besides APL and SP for the 53's and ITEL and 
Maersk in 40')?

Thanks,

Ed 
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From: Prime Mover Software Development <U93_PTUPACZE@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU>
Subject: Re: Stewart Hobbies
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Stewart Hobbies first appeared about 6 years ago. They started making 
relatively cheap plastic models, starting with a somewhat crude version of the 
RS-3 (all major phases) and the Baldwin AS-616. They soon started making the 
more popular models, like the U25B and their now-famous line of F-units. These 
are particularly good because of their superb detail and their excellent 
running Kato underframes (the same ones under Atlas engines). The F-units are 
particularly good because they weigh a ton! I suggest anyone get a B-unit to 
go along with the rest of their A's... it's worth it.

    - Paul Tupaczewski
      Stevens Tech
      Hoboken, NJ
      u93_ptupacze@vaxa.stevens-tech.edu

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From: walls@convex.com (Fred Walls)
Subject: Re: B&O Historical Society
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:45:39 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Keywords: B&O Historical Society
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Baltimore & Ohio Railroad Historical Society
P. O. Box 13578
Baltimore, Md. 21203-3578

The February 1992 issue of Model Railroder has a listing of many historical
societies starting on page 172.

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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 19 Nov 1992 15:53:46 EST
From: <CJOHNSON@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject:    Train Collecting-MARX

We collect MarX toy trains, and would like to hear from other collectors.
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
From: johnh@borland.com (John Haskey)
Subject: Re: The Best N-Scale Mail Order
Originator: johnh@genghis.borland.com
Organization: Borland International
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:41:52 GMT

I'll add these two to the list:

The Freight Yard, Huntington Beach, CA
Perry's Hobbies, Morgan, MN

Both advertise in the major mags.  I've had good luck from both of them.

								---john.

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From: tarumph@uncc.edu (Timothy Allen Rumph)
Subject: Re: ? ON N-SCALE F40'S, MODEL POWER OR BACHMAN?
Reply-To: tarumph@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:28:39 GMT

I have an F40PH that I;m very happy with. I used the Model Power shell and put it on 
a Kata GP38-2 mechaninism. I did this by glueing blocks inside the shell, and running
screws up from the bottom through the mechanism into the blocks. The fuel tank also must be modified. The Model Power chasis may be good for something (flat car load?)

I have not used the Bachmann or seen it run.

Tim Rumph


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From: yves@speedy.dev.cdx.mot.com (Yves Vidal)
Subject: Re: Wanted: HO Shay Locomotive Info
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:56:00 GMT
Keywords: HO, Shay, locomotive

In article <1992Nov19.191526.2771@sei.cmu.edu> wmc@sei.cmu.edu (Michael Caldwell) writes:
>
>Can anyone provide a source for obtaining an HO Shay locomotive. I am looking
>for something display quality (no cheap plastic) and preferably not a kit. 
>

Buy brass Man, buy brass !!

Since the MDC offering does not inerest you (it is a kit), you should 
consider spending a few hundreds dollars on a brass engine. I was in 
Miami, a couple of months ago, at Orange Blossom Hobbies (see add in 
MR) and they do carry an impressive choice of rare brass models. I saw 
many Shays, although I do not remember the prices exactly. You should 
expect something in the range $300-$500 unpainted.
Give them a call. The models were gorgeous !

Hope this help.
Yves
From: d2fred@dtek.chalmers.se (Fredrik Br{utigam)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Re: Marklin
Date: 23 Nov 92 16:01:58 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg Sweden

karayan@rigelrigel.cc.bellcore.com (karayannopoulos,george) writes:

>In article <d2fred.722118045@dtek.chalmers.se> I wrote:
>>
>>                                 When it comes to quality, Trix is just
>>as good as -- or even better than -- any other German make. (Excellent,
>>that is.) It is also worth mentioning that Trix also produce a lot of
>>2-rail models. 

>How would you compare Trix to AUSTRIAN makes?  In particular ROCO?
>I've seen Trix engines in their catalog and they look rather
>toy-ish.  Details appear out of scale, etc.  Roco on the other
>hand makes much better looking models (IMHO), for much less money.
>Any thoughts?

Not very many, but you may be right in that the most inexpensive
Trix models may not be very detailed. However, these models often
date some years back. The recent releases are just as good as any
others. Of course, prices often rise with increasing detail level.
Please note: often, not always. Not in the Roco case, for example.
This Austrian firm sure knows how to combine excellent quality with
moderate prices.

>George Karayannopoulos              N2OWO

	/Fredrik Brautigam

Please note that the opinions above are mine, and mine only...
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From: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Athearn DD40s - when
Date: 23 Nov 1992 19:21:07 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: world
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Keywords: they're coming

I just got news directly from Athearn:
"The DD40 model will be produced again in 1993. 
Wait for the announcement.  There are *no* plans
for any design changes in the DD40."

So that's it.

-Bill

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From: nef@mace.cc.purdue.edu (paulhicks)
Subject: RR Tracks and Race Cars
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 23:39:27 GMT

Dear Netters,
	A number of years ago TYCO sold a train set which 
included both trains and race cars.  In this set there was
a section of track which included a car level crossing.  Is
such a section of track still available?  And where might
one get it? Indeed does anyone still make a train set like
the one described?

Thanks, Paul

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From: frits@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Frits Kuijlman)
Subject: Great Model Railroads '92 seen?
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:20:10 GMT

In the latest Model Railroader I saw an add for the latest issue of
the annual Great Model Railroader mag. Has somebody already seen it in
a bookstore? I can't seem to find it here in holland.
Thanks,
    Frits
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From: 737ochs@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Re: Bachmann+ F7, Spectrum Pass car quality?
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:28:16 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

In article <92326.093853GRW104@psuvm.psu.edu>, <GRW104@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> Does anyone have experience with or opinions of the
> Bachmann Plus F7's, and/or the Bachmann Spectrum
> heavyweight passenger cars?  How do the F7's compare
> with Athearn (slightly cheaper) and Stewart (more expensive)?
> I'd appreciate hearing from you.  Thanks.
> 
> G. Weaver
> Penn State University
Well, I haven't seen the F7's, but a friend of mine bought one of their B23-7's
in Conrail, and it runs pretty good. It was a little noisy, but a lot of new
engines (including Athearn) are that way until broken it. If I remember right,
I would say it rivals Athearn, but not as good as say, Stewert or Kato.

Fred
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From: billg@bony1.bony.com (Bill Gripp)
Subject: Re: All about Diesels (LONG!)
Organization: LA&W RR
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 14:39:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.025415.6438@gw.wmich.edu> 737ochs@gw.wmich.edu writes:

>EMD's first main model was the FT which I'm sure stood for freight

FT was for FourTeen hundred horsepower.
The original E, the EA was for EighTeen hundred.
The original EMC switchers were
SC - Six hundred horses Cast frame
SW - Six hundred horses Welded frame
NC - Nine hundred horses Cast frame
NW - Nine hundred horses Welded frame


>It had 1350 HP(horse power) They were designed to be semi-permanently
>coupled and sold usually as sets. They came in both A and B.

There was also a stand alone FTA which some roads bought to use in ABA
sets.


>here is a list of GP style engines:
>GP15 1500 HP

More precisely, GP15-1


From: wbrill@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Warren Brill)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:38:09 GMT
Subject: Re: All about Diesels
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA