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From: bdraschk@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Bernd Raschke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Blank keys on the A1200?
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 11:53:50 GMT
Organization: CSD., University of Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: faui00i.informatik.uni-erlangen.de
Keywords: Amiga 1200 blank keys

eamon@netcom.com (Charles E Taggart) writes:

>The left-shift key and the return keys are quite a bit smaller than those
>on the Amiga keyboard that I've been used to for the last six years.  I
>found that I was consistently missing those keys while typing (I'm pretty
>fast, and I had much more trouble with the left-shift than the return).

>The reason for this is the addition of two blank keys, same size as the
>letter keys.  I couldn't figure out what they're for, and as usual, the
>clueless salesmen at Creative didn't know either (at least they didn't try
>to make something up this time).

>What's the deal with these keys?  Do they serve some essential function? 
>And is the keyboard (which otherwise seems exactly the same) replaceable
>with a standard A500 replacement keyboard?
That's curious. Apparently this is a production error, or C= want's to save
money by building only ONE version of the keyboard for Germany and USA. These
two blank keys are needed for the German layout of the Keyboard. The left one
has > and <, i don't remember the letters for the right one. 
If your dealer has the Germann keyboard file installed, try prefs/input and
select the German keyboard, the two keys should work then.

Ciao,
	Arty
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From: stelmack@eggo.usf.edu (Gregory M. Stelmack)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: QUESTION: I have 2.04, now what???????????
Date: 7 Jan 93 06:22:43 GMT
Organization: University of South Florida, Department of Computer Science and Engineering

The next step I see for you is to get 2.1...

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From: crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Gremlins are munching my memory! (FastRam)
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:11:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: glia.crystal.726289898
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: glia.biostr.washington.edu

In <1993Jan5.235130.5582@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:

>crystal@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Crystal) writes:

>>"Avail flush" seems to work if I type it from the CLI...I just need to remember
>>to that, or create an ICON i can leave out, on the workbench to do it...
>>AHH!!  And I have just the ICON!!  A silly one, my very first, that I have never
>>found a use for!  Yep, that little blue fella now has a job to do... :>
>> 
>>So, will he be a tool or a project?  Just a CLI command...in the tool type
>>section?                        

>I used the loadwb -debug because my Workbench already looks lika a cartoon
>storyboard.  Can't wait for my 1200 to get in so I can use better video 
>modes than my poor ol' 500. 

>Anyway, about the "avail flush" as an icon.  A way I *know* will work is to 
>create a script file on the order of:

>avail <nil: >nil: flush   ;The nil's are optional - depends on whether
>endcli                    ;you want it to display the available mem or not.

>and give it's icon the default tool "iconx".  (Project icon, of course.)

>Hope this helps...
>-- 
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Hmmm....I changed the icon into a Project icon.
default tool  c:iconx
tool types:   avail flush      (no need to see the memory, it pops up on my
	      endcli            WB screen anyway, if I click the screen)

I set the Icon to executable

Clicking on it gets

EXECUTE: cannot open StrangeBird     (uh, the icon is a pterydactyl  *laugh*)
object not found


I took the executable toggle off, same problem...  clues?

I've not worked with a project icon before.  What differentiates it from a tool?

Thanks!

Crystal
  ;>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Printer.prefs
From: cox_m@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 5 Jan 1993 02:46:47 GMT
Reply-To: cox_m@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

I'm after a fairly simplistic and quick description of the format of
the "printer.prefs" file used by WB2.0 - the file it stores in 
ENV:Sys when you set the preferences :-). Could anyone either post, e-mail
(preferably), or point me in the direction of a book with said information?

Oh, and doesn't *anyone* know what was wrong with  Fountain?
 
(In abject despair beacuase no-one can help)..
Martin.
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From: I.A.Inman@newcastle.ac.uk (I.A. Inman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: WorkBench 2.1?
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:17:37 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU
Originator: n08dp@tuda


In article <1993Jan6.105856.15185@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, rigby@pyramid.unr.edu (Wayne Rigby) writes:
> 
> Nope, AmigaDOS (R) Release 2.1 is an official release to the general public,
> at least here in the US.  It was released/announced at the World of Commodore
> in Pasadena, California last summer, along with the 4000, AGA, AmigaDOS 3.0,
> and AmigaVision Pro.  Effectively they released 2.1 as the 3.0 for non-AGA
> machines with 3.0 only having support for the AGA chipset and a couple other
> things that 2.1 does not have.
> 
> The official release notice that I have from WOC - Pasadena states (this
> has been posted a few bizillion times since WOC - Pasadena, but here's a
> rehash..) that it has 
> 
> o Dynamic Localization of Programs to Different Languages and Locales
> o Includes CrossDOS for easy transfer of MS-DOS (R) and Amiga (R) files.
> o Includes PostScript (R) Printer Driver
> o Professional look, three-dimensional, point-and-click user interface
> o Updated Printer Drivers for most popular printers
> o New Preferences Editing
> o Supports Multiple Serial and Parallel Printer Preferences
> o Includes Installer and Screen Mode Requester
> 
> and lots more...
> 
> Ordering info:
> 
> AS215 AmigaDOS Release 2.1 Software Upgrade includes
>       o 6 disks
>       o 3 manual set
> 
> AS216 AmigaDOS Release 2.1 ROM and Software Upgrade includes
>       o 2.0X ROM
>       o 6 disks
>       o 3 manual set
> 
> (I think that they dropped down to 5 disks in the actual release..)
> 
> The addresses given are for the US and Canadian divisions.
> 
> So, did they release 3.0 for non-AGA machines in the UK, or what?  Still
> only have 2.04 for non-AGA?  Just kind of curious...
> 
> Wayne Rigby
> rigby@cs.unr.edu
> 
> Note:  Above blurbs taken directly from the release flyers without permission,
> not that I think Commodore minds free advertising...  :)

Haven't seen anything of WB2.1 over in Britain, obvoiusly ain't been released
here.

Sounds a hec of a lot better than the crappy WB2.04/2.05.   Just a couple of
questions:

1) Any chance of Commodore releasing WB2.1 in Britain, or do we have to wait for
   WB3.1?
2) Are there any British importers?
3) If not, any good American suppliers (provided it will work on British
machines)?

...and while I'm here:

4) Is it true you Americans have a cut down version of the A600, I think called
the A300 - there's half a hint of this in the A600 manuals?
5) If 3.1 is to be released, will this mean AGA being included in the A600 and
A3000, and if so, will current users be able to upgrade
(A500/A600/A2000/A2500/A3000)?
From: c92caren@IDA.LiU.SE (Dingbats)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: AmigaOS Versions
Date: 9 Jan 93 23:36:52 GMT
Organization: CIS Dept, University of Linkoping, Sweden

In article <C0J819.143@dcs.ed.ac.uk> dcc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (David Crooke) writes:

>      1.0 - Was there one? Perhaps for early 1000's.
>      1.1 - On Kickstart disk for A1000 - the oldest version I have.
>      1.2 - First version to be found in ROM, in early 500's and 2000's - could be
>	    crashed by moving a Workbench window offscreen.
>      1.3 - The first reasonably stable, and longest lived version (3 years).
>      1.3.2 - Disk only upgrade, released with later A500's.
       1.3.3 - Disk only (i think...) released with even later A500's
	       (the '92 releases anyway...)

>      1.4 - (Never happened - became 2.0)
Wasn't 1.4 a specia| version of 1.3 with support for the 2024 (or
whatever it's called) greyscale hires monitor?

>      2.01, 2.02 - Disk-only (SuperKickstart) for early A3000's. Unstable.
>      2.04 - The first major release of 2.0x, for 3000's and in ROM for A500+/2000.
>	     ROM size increased to 512K. No more meditation. Lots of fixes. First
>	     decent version of Workbench. ECS support.
>      2.05 - Upgrade to above with minor fixes and support for IDE HDs (A600). Supplied
>	     with A1500 as software-only upgrade to 2.04 and in ROM in the 600.
>      2.10 - Current version for non-AGA machines. Locale.library, fixes, PostScript,
>	     some other stuff. I don't know if this is official in the UK but it IS
>	     available. Supplied with current A3000's.
>      3.0 - 2.10 with some extra bits, mainly to support the AGA (AA ?) chipset.
>	    Supplied with A1200/A4000.
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From: Harv@cup.portal.com (Harv R Laser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM at CES/Vegas quickie report
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:47:27 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>>One new thing being shown, altho very quietly, as in no
>>signs and no press release is MPEG on a card inside a 4000
>>running full motion full screen video streams in a sizeable
>>window. Jeff Porter of CBM Engineering (a real nice guy btw) 
>>told me this is a new Amiga product in development. Release date/price 
>>to be announced later. It looked damn good to me. 
>
>Wow. Did he provide any additional details?

Nope.. if he had I wouldda said so. He just grinned a lot. 

>
>Also - was there are mention of why DMI failed to make an appearance?

Sorry, didn't even ask. I was rather more interested in why
the next-generation CDTV wasn't there, and couldn't find that out
either. 

Harv
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.applications
From: kurt@tc.fluke.COM (Kurt Guntheroth)
Subject: Re: Notebook
Reply-To: kurt@tc.fluke.COM (Kurt Guntheroth)
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:07:52 GMT

clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu) writes:
>
>Anyone heard of a program called Notebook and/or have anything
>to say about it?  It's a utility where you can record notes,
>and organize them.  I think it's by Black Belt.  My husband
>is looking for a birthday present for me.  I know...  Too
>close to Christmas, and he hasn't even paid the Mastercard
>yet!  :-)

I have black belt's Notebook.  It is a program that is almost sooooo cool...

The idea of Notebook is a little tool to replace an engineer's notebook or
some such thing.  You can type text into it, and draw pictures.  You can
make bookmarks and go rapidly to the bookmark, like a section in the book.
And it's all got a cool wysiwyg interface.

Well, it has some problems.  First, black belt went way too far with the
notebook metaphor.  They have ruled lines and a left margin line onto the
pages.  This isn't too bad because you can make them go away, but the text
editor gets confused when you delete characters and so it sometimes draws to
the left of the vertical rule, and sometimes doesn't.  And I could never get
the hang of when it did what.

Because of the left margin, you waste some space on the screen.  And it
creates its own whole screen, which is another minor annoyance.  Then
there's a tool pad placed vertically on the right edge so you waste some
more screen.  To compensate they use a very small, somewhat difficult-to-read
font, but it still doesn't amount to more than about 55-60 columns if you
convert it to ASCII and show it with type or more.  So you don't get too
much info on a screen.

It prints the page as a bit image.  I guess this is because of the graphics,
but it still really irritated me.  It's slow and looks ugly.  I don't know
what I expected they'd do, but I was dissappointed.

The picture drawing tools are really nice.  You can draw lines, boxes,
circles, and some other stuff, and then reshape them.  In other words, it is
a drawing program, not a paint program.  You can move or delete a specific
object in a drawing.  It was so nice that it made the other problems seem
even worse because I wanted to work with it so badly.  I wish the lines had
an option to have arrows automatically drawn on one or both ends, and I wish
there was a way to enclose text in a rectangle and have the thing move as a
unit.  Still, I really liked the graphics.

I stopped using Notebook after a week and never picked it back up.  I really
wanted to work with this tool, but it was just too hard.  Now I'll have to
build the same tool over again and try to overcome its weaknesses.  What a
hassle.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: easton@zds-oem.zds.com (Jeff Easton)
Subject: Re: anybody used their PCMCIA port yet?
Organization: Zenith Data Systems, OEM Systems Engineering
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 18:29:07 GMT

In article <JET.93Jan5171629@boxer.nas.nasa.gov> jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes:
>
>
>I was just glancing at Open Systems Today, and they had a reasonably
>interesting article about the "standardization" of PCMCIA cards.  It
>looked prettty cool, an ethernet card for $400 or so, wireless cards,
>PCMCIA<->you_name_it I/O adapters, PCMCIA ram expansion, etc etc.
>
>So, have you found a PCMCIA card for your Amiga yet?  Perhaps it's the
>perfect place to put one of those game-cracker doodads?

  I got to borrow a 256K SRAM PCMCIA card for a day to use on my
A1200.  It worked pretty much as advertised.  I tried it as a card disk
and as regular system ram.

  3.0 provides the drivers to use a RAM PCMCIA card.  It looks like
your on your own for drivers when it comes to IO cards.

>J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311 (DoD# 0378)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
Subject: Re: Great feature in 1200 (3.0?)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:07:10 GMT

In article <43302@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> jfriesne@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Jeremy Friesner!) writes:
>>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>>"No, I just think that a computer grafted on top of another computer
>>is a kludge.  It has nothing to do with the AGA chipset." -- me
>
>
>Unless they ever get an AGA plug-in board out, I can't think
>of any Amiga that this applies to... perhaps you refer to
>the BridgeBoard?

   No.  Internally, the AGA Lisa chip remains software-compatible with the
ECS Denise chip in a fashion very similar to the way the 80286 and 80386 
remain software-compatible with the 8086.  The AGA Lisa chip even has a
"game compatibility mode" that basically turns the chip into an ECS Denise,
and this is very similar to the 8086-compatibility mode of the 80386.
Some have called this method of grafting old computers on top of new 
computers a kludge, but of course they mean nothing about the Intel or 
AGA chips when they say this...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Subject: Latest fish as complete disks available anywhere?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:53:53 GMT



Does anyone know of a site that has the latest bunch of Fish disks available
as one archive?  (ie.  FF781.lha)  Email or post.

    Daryl Turner
    <umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca>


Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: justin@hybris.UUCP (Justin Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: QUESTION: I have 2.04, now what???????????
Distribution: world
Date: 31 Dec 92 13:37:06 CST
Organization: FEC Software Programmers, INC.

In article <1hqhrtINN2cq@uwm.edu> jdblake@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (John David Blake) writes:
>Howdy! I thought I'd tell you all that I just ordered the 2.04 ROM from Safe
>Harbor, here in Milwaukee, WI.  Thanks for all of your responses!  You helped
>out a lot in my decision making.  The chip should arrive Thursday.  So, now,
>my questions are:
>
>                    What really cool stuff can 2.04 do?
>
>                      Any cool tips or suggestions?
>
>              Any memory saving techniques for a 1 meg 500?
>
>  Does anyone suggest the hardware hack to make the 1 meg all chip mem?
>
>  What are the best games/utils for 2.04 (please tell location, ftp...)
>
>
>Thanks a lot! Please respond via e-mail.
>
>jdblake@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

--
The one meg chip ram mod. is really only good for a person, if they have
more fast ram..  You don't want just chip ram on your computer, some
programs require fast ram, and others simply work better with fast
ram.  I made the one meg mod. to my A500, and I also have 2 megs of fast
ram in my Supradrive 500xp.  I have noticed no problems with the hack, but
wouldn't recomend it without having extra fast ram!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: keith@actrix.gen.nz (Keith Stewart)
Subject: Re: Virtual Reality Laboratories Newsletters: Anyone getting them?
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:53:51 GMT

In article <C0Bo8z.290@rahul.net> mike@rahul.net (Mike Smithwick) writes:
> In article <C070vy.Bru@uceng.uc.edu> skellner@uceng.uc.edu (Sean Kellner) writes:
> >In article <1993Jan1.103522.27424@actrix.gen.nz> keith@actrix.gen.nz (Keith Stewart) writes:
> >>Being a VistaPro and Distant Suns owner I use to get newsletters from VRLI
> >>on a regular basis but I have not received one for at least 6 months. Anyone
> > One of the programmers for VistaPro is active in the local user group as well
> >as some of the boards, real nice guy.  Anyway, I can ask about the newsletter,
> >>
> >>They are one good company. I hope they stay in the Amiga market.
> >>
> >>
> >>Keith
> >  Sean

> The next Amiga newsletter is due to come out this month. With 3 platforms
> supported it is becoming difficult publish 3 different newsletters.
> 
> mike


Say Mike I have seen the ad for Distant Suns for Windows in Astronomy mag
Hope its selling OK. Any chance of an AGA version so we can see those
NASA pics in HAM8 or 256 colours. 


> 
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> *** Mike Smithwick - mike@rahul.net 
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OK I'll bite What is a HAPPY FUN BALL ?

PS Are u on your todd now

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.programmer
From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: Help me identify Guru Meditation #
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:04:26 GMT

WALLY@UKCC.UKY.EDU writes:

>In article <1993Jan5.171800.8765@athena.mit.edu>
>farhi@athena.mit.edu (Bill Hoston) writes:
> 
>>Can someone please tell me what Guru 8(1|0)000 0005 is?
>>
>Half of my GURU's (which tend to be frequent since I went to 2.1 (From 1.3),
>which makes me *real* happy, are this same number.

Are the other half 80000003?  68000 based machines seem to have problems 
with this.

> 
>81000005 is     EXEC.LIBRARY : Corrupt memory list detected in FreeMem
>80000005 is     Division by zero
> 
>Get alert.  It's a rather nice programme..  It's what guru was for 1.3.
> 
>(In the back of my mind I remember reading how much more STABLE 2.1 was
>and how it hardly gurued...  Oh well..  Prolly broken software..)
> 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Accelerators/FAST RAM for A1200s?
Date: 04 Jan 93 05:25:42 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

I just got a new A1200. Wonderful machine!

however, it is lacking in both memory and raw speed for some
if the stuff I was used to doing on my 6 MB A3000. So, does anyone
out there know of memory/accelerator upgrades available or available RSN
for the A1200?

Ian.
-- 
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toward his inheritance. Not actually knowing how to create wealth himself,
he guards what he has with hysterical fervor." - John Perry Barlow
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: CBM at CES/Vegas quickie report
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:35:59 GMT

In <C0Izus.L12@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>this product to the market.  Of course, I hope this also means that Commodore
>is getting serious about developing Amiga (not CDTV) CD-ROM systems, since
>MPEG and CD-ROM go hand-in-hand.

So do CDTV and MPEG and CD-I and MPEG.

You'll never learn it.

Regards,
-- 
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