HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: stanley@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers and broken software
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:59:29 GMT
Organization: Coastal Imaging Lab, College of Oceanography
NNTP-Posting-Host: ruby.oce.orst.edu

In article <et6YrAjBBh108h@meteor.brisnet.org.au> rhys%meteor@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au writes:
>.  Through-out the
>whole episode I got the impression that Carlos _wanted_ to find a solution
>but was constrained by his service provider.

The fix is called getting a good copy of Waffle and setting the nodename
properly. That he could have done by himself.

>users, not sitting on my high horse and preaching at those who have
>systems I know nothing about.

It is called Waffle. You don't know anything about it?

>A note to Carlos: John is a professional net.agitator, so don't expect

At least YOU aren't calling me a racist.

>him to cool down anytime soon.  He's a great proponent of the theory
>that those who aren't as good as him shouldn't be on the net. :-(

Who was it who was complaining about putting words in mouths?

I am a great proponent of network connectivity, and I will continue to
point out sites that don't make the effort to follow the RFC's. "As good
as" never enters the picture. "Deliberately ignoring the problem" does.

>So, could we please give the "Carlos has a broken STATIC file" thread a
>rest now, and get back to the business of discussing Waffle?

You mean that system you don't know anything about?

Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: jfrost@crash.cts.com (Julian Frost)
Subject: bad headers
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 24 Jan 93 19:54:37 PST

I'm having real problems getting the newsgroups from my local feed. I
can upload and download regular email to/from the unix site, but all I
get is "bad header (+hex numbers)" errors when the newsgroups are sent
to me.

The unix host is sending me everything the same way as he does another
local waffle board, 16 bit compression (yes, I've put in the 16 bit
compression module) and they don't have any problems... so, it seems
to be something in my configuration.

I am not providing a feed to any other sites.  What might cause these
"bad header" errors?

Please help, it's truly driving me up the wall!!

Please reply either here or to jfrost@crash.cts.com
Thanks, Julian
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: violence
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 11:16:25 GMT
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.98

August.Abolins%f115.n514.z17@visavis.cam.org (August Abolins) writes:
> I am often surprised to to hear *unix people respect and uphold the
> virtues of Vi even though it is over 25years old and outdated compared
> to modern editors for *nix.

Vi is fast and compact.  It runs well even across a slow serial connection. 
It's available in some form or other for just about every computer system out
there.  The editing commands behave orthogonally, so there are much fewer to
remember than with other editors.  You don't have to move your hands from
the proper touch-typing position to use it.  You don't have to stress your
fingers with Alt, Meta, Control and Shift operations.

The problem with vi is that when you first run it, it looks horrible and
behaves incomprehensibly.  This is partly because it defaults to being in
expert mode, accepting commands with no on-screen prompts.


mathew
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: scheduled events that take phone off-hook?
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:57:15 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, Ontario, CANADA
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

hho@phakt.usc.edu (** N.T.K.C.D. ***) writes:

> Instead of taking the phone off the hook during news/batch etc.
> Is it possible to run something TSR and answer the phone. It will
> print out a message "System is busy, please call back in a few minutes.."
> ?

> I used to run a BBS with a ZOOM modem with its hardware message.
> I can program the modem to automatically connect and print out
> a message then disconnect :-)))

Boy, long distance callers would sure love you, eh??!  Not recommended.

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From: nonsenso@utopia.hacktic.nl (Felipe Rodriquez)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Mail encryption programm for WAFFLE?
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 04:00:24 GMT
Organization: Hack-Tic Network Foundation
NewsSoftware: Rnf 0.73b

>One thing I've been thinking of is having a PGP key server available
>under Waffle.  I know, it's not a absolutely secure arrangement, but
>it would help serve a purpose.  Has anyone built one?


I have a PGP key-server running here for about 6 months, it works pretty
sraight-forward. You can send in your keys, you get my keyring back in
return. I only sign your key if i have voice validation.



                      PGP-SERVER POLICIES


You can send your PGP public-keys to pgp-keys@utopia.hacktic.nl.


Your key will be added to our public keyring. In order to certify your
key, so that other people know that the key is actually yours, make sure
it is signed by other people before sending it in. It is advisable to
have your key signed by as many people as possible, before sending your
key to our key-server. Make sure that the people that sign your key are
100% sure of the fact that the key is yours.

Keys will only be signed by me if i'm 100% sure about the sender of the
key. This requires a voice validation of your ASCII-key armor. I will
NOT sign ANY keys that i don't trust 100%. E-Mail is subject to many
types of forgery and is not a secure channel for verification.
Verification can only be done by you reading to me some indicated
characters in your keys ASCII armor, either over the phone, or by
visiting me personally.

For a pgp-server to work, it is absolutely crucial to keep the above
stated points in mind. Security is your responsability, if you want
other persons to trust your key, see to it that it is signed by a lot of
people that are competent in key-managment.

If you don't want your key to be signed then that's your responsibility.
You'd make it easy for any attacker to forge a key that is supposed to
be yours.


Felipe Rodriquez -- key-manager@utopia.hacktic.nl
                    nonsenso@utopia.hacktic.nl


_______________________________________________________________
     Felipe Rodriquez             Hacktic Network Foundation
 nonsenso@utopia.hacktic.nl       Networking for the masses !
From: dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "BUG FIX" for Waffle for DOS
Date: 26 Jan 93 00:46:21 GMT
Organization: I mistook my BBS for a hat

>functions are doing (this is my experience). Anyways, for those of you who
>have purchase the source for Waffle, you can fix this VERY EASILY.
>
>Load up DOS.H, and look for:
>
>#define VSPRINT
>#define CONIO
>
>...comment out the  #define CONIO and recompile. When you do so, two things
>will happen:
>1) The screen will now go properly to the bottom of a 50 line display.
>2) The reverse video will stop working.
>
>(Tom, every consider fixing this?)

That isn't a bug, I specifically put the CONIO define there in the event
anyone wanted to do what you were doing. The reason it isn't in the final
build is that it's noticeably (and annoyingly) slower than the 1.65 build.
Even on a monochrome monitor.

There are many, many ramifications to making that change.
--Tom

dell@vox.darkside.com / Thomas E Dell
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: FINGER command ?!
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 02:16:40 GMT

In article <omBuXB1w165w@acelab.re.open.de> ace@acelab.re.open.de (Andreas Fatum) writes:
|Although I put "finger_ok : 3" in my static-file, every user,
|even the -1/0 guest account can still finger all other users.

This appears to be a bug.  Waffle doesn't check the value of finger_ok
anywhere, so the only workaround would be to write an extern to provide
the information that you're interested in, which you can then control
access to, and 'disable: finger'.

  Bill
From: chorn@eastwind.mcds.com (Christopher Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: ncsu dup checker/HellDiver problems
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 07:35:29 EST
Organization: The East Wind  +1 201 875 7063

ka6etb@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (KA6ETB Steve Harding) writes:

> Ncsu apparently does some strange thing to the news directories.  After
> saving off my join file (when I have finished reading news), and then
> reopening helldiver, all read articles reappear.

If you use the -hf optiopn or whatever, it leaves the ctl files in the
spool directories to speed up processing. Helldiver doesn't expect them
there, and doesn't know how to handle them, and thus the problem. Not
sure who you want to blame for the problem, I shouldn't have left them
there but Helldiver shouldn't try reading non-news articles.

Switch to just -h (or -s if a single feed site...)

I've learned a LOT of C since then, and hope to rewrite NSCU in the near
future implementing linked lists and possibly a more efficient approach.
Any kind of past record files, like the ctl files, will be done quit
differently and not left in the spool dirs. But first, on with uubatch...


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: peterson@choctaw.csc.ti.com (Bob Peterson)
Subject: Re: Why we use Waffle
Reply-To: peterson@csc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:45:07 GMT

  I operate Waffle as a door accessable from my Wildcat!-based BBS. 
Waffle provides my users access to a limited number of newsgroups, plus
email.  Less than 10% of my 800 users ever try Waffle, and less then 5%
use it regularly.

  I also feed news or email to five other sites.  Three of the sites I
feed run Waffle, one runs Unix, and the third runs MKS uucp for email
only.

  Of course I use Waffle myself, although I also have Usenet/Internet
access where I work.

    Bob

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From: raoul@fangio.wa.com (Jeff Benedict)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Login works locally, not on dialin
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 18:26:13 PST
Organization: J. Benedict Computing, Port Townsend, WA. USA

Hello-

I'm getting my Waffle iron back up and it's just about ready to go but 
there is a problem- I can't login remotely.

Here's the situation:

1. I can login from the console- that's what I'm doing now.

2. I dialin from my other line with another computer and the modem 
answers.   I get the result codes, messages locally but not remotely.

3. I get nothing remotely- banner, login or NEW: or anything.  All of 
these are available locally.

I've scoured the docs and the FAQ and can't find any reference to this 
problem. 

BTW- I have no problems with any other aspect of the UUCP.  Polling 
works- (duhh!! How are you reading this!), news reading works, etc.

Can anyone help me?

Jeff

P.S.: fangio is on a 386 now instead of a XT- I'm getting 1100-1300cps 
from the same feed I couldn't get more than 400cps with the same setup.
The 386 did the trick!

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From: root@cibbs.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: "BUG FIX" for Waffle for DOS
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 13:31:42 EST
Organization: DataSoft Consulting (Toronto, Ont. Canada)

dell@Apple.COM (Thomas E. Dell) writes:

> That isn't a bug, I specifically put the CONIO define there in the event
> anyone wanted to do what you were doing. The reason it isn't in the final
> build is that it's noticeably (and annoyingly) slower than the 1.65 build.
> Even on a monochrome monitor.
> 
> There are many, many ramifications to making that change.

I have noticed no difference in performance on any of my machines I run this
on. However, 50 lines now works 99% properly on my VGA monitors. THe CGA also
works without any noticeable speed decrease, high speed modem or not, and I run
all 286's.

As for "many, many ramifications", what are these? I am interested on hearing
about this from your point of view. Email me if you wish. I am sure you have
done you've homework on this.

Mark

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From: jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Help!  Two not-so-minor problems with Waffle.
Keywords: dos waffle 165
Date: 23 Jan 93 06:13:46 GMT
Organization: The little node that could...

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:

> time, Waffle won't hang up the darn phone after a caller types "BYE".
> They have to hang up their own modem to break the connection!  I am
> using the X00 v1.49a Fossil, the modem is a Practical Peripherals
> 9600SA.  I don't know if it is the new chip, or a problem with the
> COM2 port, Waffle's fault, or the Fossil's fault -- but I must say
> that this problem does *not* occur in Telix, Kermit, YTERM, nor any
> of the other communication programs I use.
     This is because waffle sometimes "forgets" to flush the buffer. I've
seen a BBS or two (HI ANDY!!!!) add about 4 lines of text to the end of
the "BYE BYE" message (I forget what it's called) to give waffle
something to flush the fossil driver and the comm. buffer with.

                                   --Jeff

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From: magus@brewhau.bison.mb.ca (James Copland)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: MODEM barf
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 15:24:26 CST
Distribution: na
Organization: Organium Brainbending & Low Level CodeWorks of Winnipeg, Manitoba.

shimizu@unix.SRI.COM (Dan Shimizu) writes:

> I just upgraded from a ZOOM 2400bps to a Twincomm v.32bis internal. I'm
> having problems, when the Twincomm answers the phone and reports the
> baud rate. The line is answered fine (RING and all), a connection is
> made, but then the Twincomm sends "CARRIER 14400", and I think WAFFLE
> expects "CONNECT". Not seeing connect, WAFFLE reports MODEM barfed, and
> cycles. It seems that the only option I have is to set the twincomm using
> ATXO, so it will only report "CONNECT". However, then WAFFLE thinks that
> the connection is made a 300 baud. I know it's actually going at 14400,
> but I want the WAFFLE % variable set to the correct baud rate, so I can
> pass it to externals...
>
> Any solutions?
>
> DOS 5.0, BNU 1.70, WAFFLE 1.65, Twincomm 144DFI
>
> Thanks,
> DAN
> shimizu@unix.sri.com
>

Salut!

RTFM locked: in STATIC.DOC also grep for "fossil".

Regards,
Magus.

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From: revc@Garg.Campbell.CA.US (Bob Van Cleef)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Helldiver feature set...
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 22:33:29 -0800
Organization: The Land of Garg

Hi;

An enhancement request and a bug report.

Enhancement:

    Add a "comment" field to the address book

Bug report:

    You cannot read "local" groups. They always show as 0/0 no matter
    what is there. I now revert to reading them in Waffle...

Bob

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From: rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Schedule dies...
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 09:24:40 EST
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

tom@tatertot.com (Tom Lemos) writes:

> Anyone got any reason why waffle's not reading my schedule file?
> it worked fine up until now.. and I haven't changed a thing?
> did it get fed up with me?

If your're running DOS, check waffle/system/stamp's timestamp
- and your system date/time.  If your clock went back to 1980
or the timestamp file got dated some time in the future cron would
quit doing its thing.

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From: dawson@willard.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: command 'me' in waffle 1.64
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 07:24:45 EST
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke) writes:

> xyzzy@jaflrn.UUCP (daniel drucker) writes:
> 
> > When I type 'me' in waffle 1.64, I get:
> > Coreleft: 240744
> > Display mode: 3
> > Columns: 80
> > Active page: 0
> > Video Adapter: [insert linenoise type garbage here]
> > 
> > Any ideas ?
> 
>  MEmory available. (Free Memory)

Another careless reader!!


>  
> 
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: How to set up smail3.1.27 with Unix waffle (was A Waffle question)
Keywords: Unix version (Xenix SysV), Smail-3.1.27, Waf165
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 22:06:06 GMT

>it's not right now since wafalias assumes that people with the same username
>in the shell and in waffle are the same person...

>maybe the 'add a shell user' script needs to add a corresponding waffle user
>and the 'waffle newuser signup' needs to add a corresponding shell account
>(obviously with only one of them able to be logged into).

>there are other waffle sites out there under unix...
>what do YOU folks do ???

I confine the userids to their respective systems.  Waffle users have
theirs and shell users have theirs.  If the shell user wants to use
Waffle for mail (and that's not as uncommon as one might think), then
I alias them like:

shelluser  "| /waffle/bin/mailin shelluser"

cron takes care of:

cd /waffle/admin
.../bin/wafalias >aliases.now
sort -u aliases.now >aliases.out
cat aliases.1 aliases.out >/etc/aliases
newaliases

aliases.1 is a list of the 'fixed' aliases.  Kludgy, but it works.

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From: root@cibbs.UUCP (Mark Buckaway)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: "BUG FIX" for Waffle for DOS
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 22:23:43 EST
Organization: DataSoft Consulting (Toronto, Ont. Canada)

I have seen some complaints about Waffle doing screwy things to the screen
when you are in 43 or 50 line mode. After some fiddling with Turbo Debugger, I
have figured it out. If this has been done already, ignore this message and I
apologize for the wasted bandwitdh, however...

Tom is doing something I consider a no-no. Using CONIO and STDIO functions
BOTH for video in ONE program. This does not work properly in most
circumstances as the CONIO functions don't always know what the STDIO
functions are doing (this is my experience). Anyways, for those of you who
have purchase the source for Waffle, you can fix this VERY EASILY.

Load up DOS.H, and look for:

#define VSPRINT
#define CONIO

...comment out the  #define CONIO and recompile. When you do so, two things
will happen:
1) The screen will now go properly to the bottom of a 50 line display.
2) The reverse video will stop working.

(Tom, every consider fixing this?)

The reverse video stops working because Tom uses the Borland textattr function
to change the screen attribute on some cases, and without CONIO defined, the
textattr functions are redirected to no where.

If I may inject my personal opinion, some of the code for the DOS portion of
Waffle is rather shakey. I am surprised some of it works. Oh, unless I am
brain dead, no where in the docs does it say, add #define MSDOS to the
version.h header file to compile under DOS.

I'll be glad to finally switch to UNIX in the coming months....
Mark

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