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From: kjordan@williams.edu
Subject: Michigan at Duke : which network?
Reply-To: kimberly.jordan@williams.edu
Organization: Williams College Ctr for Computing
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:12:43 GMT

If I recall correctly from the ACC tv schedule, the Michigan/Duke game will not
be televised nationally. If I am wrong, please enlighten me! If not, would
someone in Raycom-land be willing to tape the game for me? I'll send a blank
tape and a post-paid envelope, and be willing to return the favor if I can
(SportsChannel up here is starting to advertise UMASS games....).

Kim Jordan
Williams College - Academic Computing 
Williamstown MA 
kimberly.jordan@williams.edu
From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: FAB FIVE is back in Ann Arbor
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:30:54 GMT
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Organization: American Math. Society

In article <Bxu7L5.GxJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jlindqui@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (A Professional Tom Wopat Impersonator) writes:

  >Mech E?  How does he afford the time!  I'm double-E at Illinois and had to
  >forgo continuing my high school stats job into college because my class
  >schedule just wouldn't afford the time.  It'd take me six-seven years to get
  >out of here.  I'd like to know how Voskuil manages it.

  >Or is Engineering another way that Illinois blows out Michigan?

Actually, M's engineering program is top ten.  What do you mean
"another"?  How does Illinois blow out Michigan?  Do you have any
examples?

  >(Football being an exception.  The definition of "miracle" in Champaign is
  >now "nine fumbles"... >:-)  )

Make that 11 fumbles.





-Alan Harder
 
These opinions are mine.  You can't have them.  Stop, thief!
From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UofL Info.
Date: 21 Nov 1992 19:33:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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UofL's point guard was injured when UNC defector Cliff Rozier stepped on
his ankle.  He has a sprained ankle and should play against the Russians
Monday.  When LeGree left the game, Louisville's offense lost its crispness

and it seems likely he is the most important player on the team.

Crum was impressed by the interior passing of Rozier and Troy Smith.
Troy Smith led with 31pts/12reb (13-21 from field) aand may be a starter.
Greg Minor hit 3-6 3ptrs, and he an Rozier each had 28pts (Rozier also had
15 rebs). Brian Hopgood had 21pts/9rebs.
Box:
Smith 31, Brewer 15, Minor 28, Webb 10, Hopgood 21, Case 5, Wine 0,
Rozier 28, Rogers 9, Kiser 12, LeGree 14, Morton 18, Calhoun 8, King 0

Crum has not settled on starters yet.  Surely Rozier and Morton are the
locks; Mner, LeGree (Assuming he recovers quickly from injury), Brewer, Smith
also could start.  Hopgood will probably be off the bench again, unless he's
picked up some Defense over the summer.

NOTE: To those who have seen my outrageous UK posts in the past, I'm not a
UK scout!  I love both teams. ;)

Mike
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From: creps@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Steve Creps)
Subject: Hoosiers mailing list
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:15:09 GMT


			HOOSIERS

	The Hoosiers mailing list is intended for those "expatriate"
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rumors), as are any other IU fans, friends, and family out in Netland.

	Topics of discussion will probably include mostly IU football and
basketball.  Other discussion of Indiana University traditions (such as
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"Who do you think was the all-time best IU x-ball player?", etc. are not
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From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: Stanford women start off nice...
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: rec
Date: 23 Nov 92 06:56:01 GMT

gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:

>aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:
>>WE LOVE TARA
>>TARA IS GREAT
>>YEA TARA

>Adam, the correct phrase is WORSHIP TARA NOW.

Ah -- I didn't want to plagiarize.  Honor code and all... :-) But
since you asked, I'll use that instead. :-)

>And I'm surprised you didn't mention that Stanford was without
>Molly Goodenbour in their exhibition game against the Belgians.
>(She was visiting her father, who is hospitalized). They started
>Kate Paye instead, and she had 10 assists, 2 turnovers, 3 rebounds
>and 1 point.

Kate looked so good out there, it completely slipped my mind. :-)
Seriously -- I hope Molly's back for the Texas Tech game, but more
importantly I hope her dad's all right...

Besides -- the game was so lopsided, it really didn't have much to do
with anything...

>TRIPLE PLAY trivia:  Which brother-sister combination played
>quarterback in a bowl game and point guard in the NCAA basketball
>finals for the same school?  Well, you saw the hint.

Got me, but I know it's not Stanford -- at least not in the last three
years.

Adam

>--Gidi
From: tunal@mizar.usc.edu (Tamer Unal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Kareem Follows Walton On Road To Infamy
Date: 15 Nov 1992 22:28:52 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
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gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:

>I read that Kareem Abdul-Jabbar signed with ESPN to do color
>on a dozen or so games this season.  He will be teamed with
>West Coast jack-of-all-trades Steve Physioc. 

Good thing I'm in Australia, I won't have to see this...

>Why can't I have at least one idol remain unshattered?

Have you considered adopting Bird as an idol? I don't
think he's going to be on TV? But  you are a Laker fan,
so that's out. Worthy, perhaps? But you may object to the
Houston 'event'. Hmm, that's a tough one...

>--Gidi

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From: markts@mcl.ucsb.edu (mark.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: fsu vs. indiana!!!
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:02:03 GMT


 woah nellie! 

 the seminoles vs. the hoosiers!

 its a big one honey.

 i gotta take fsu by 4.

 they look much more together than
 indiana. and indiana is a late season
 team.

 but its gonna be great.

 god, i love college hoop!

 mark.
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From: suffridge@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick Suffridge)
Subject: Re: Indiana basketball
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:00:31 GMT

jayj@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Jay J. Park) writes:
: Hi folks, I'm posting this message for a friend who doesn't
: know how to post.
: 
: > 
: > Calbert Cheaney showed flashes of his brillance but he is still
: > content to let the game come to him.  He doesn't force anything.
: > A first time viewer would be surprised to find that he is IU's
: > go to guy.  
: > 

 I wonder if he will be the up-and-down player he was last year or 
 return to the All-American form of his soph. year.

: > The pleasent surprise was Chris Reynolds.  The guy has really
: > improved.  I spoke with  him the other day and he feels 
: > confident about the upcoming year.  I see why.  He hit two
: > or three open 3-pointers and did a wonderful job of floor
: > leadership.  As a matter of fact in the second half, Knight
: > put Reynolds on the floor with all Sophomores and Freshmen and
: > they played the "veteran" " team even.  I think he was 
: > responsible for 30 second half points either through scoring
: > or assisting.  The veteran team looked adrift without Reynolds.
: > 

 This is interesting.  Last year I thought one of IU's biggest weaknesses
 was a total lack of offense from their point guards.  In some games I
 saw the opposing team essentially played 5-on-4 defense and ignored
 the PG (Reynolds or Meeks).  If Reynolds has developed an offensive
 game that alone would make them a much better team than last year.

: > The best part of the game was when Bob Knight took over the 
: > color commentary from the bench.  It was very enlightening to 
: > listen to is analyss of the game.  

 Hmm .... could it be that Bobby is auditioning for a spot on TV
 with V and V after he retires ??

: > 
: > All in all IU is in decent shape.  There is that donut sized 
: > hole in themiddle which will cause problems on defense when
: > they run into the Glen Robinson's and the Chris Webber's of the
: > Big 10.  But, if any team knows how to play without a true center,
: > it's IU.  We haven'thad one in years. 

 That was another big weakness last year.  Guys like Mashburn and Webber
 feasted on IU last year and unless Lindemann is not the major stiff
 he seems to be it doesn't look like IU has done anything to improve
 their inside defense.

 All in all, IU is definitely worthy of their top 5 ranking since they
 have most everyone back along with Pat Graham (who gives them a real
 3-pt shooting threat).  If they can get some offense at the point,
 get Cheaney to step up and be "the man", and find some way to defend
 the paint better they should end up in the FF again (much to my dismay
 as a Purdue grad and UK fan). 
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From: sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Lafayette Hustlers vs Purdue
Date: 17 Nov 1992 20:33:11 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University
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In-reply-to: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu's message of 17 Nov 92 13:19:33 CST

}} In article <1992Nov17.131934.28479@doug.cae.wisc.edu> saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes:
}} 
}} In article <1992Nov17.141103.28541@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>
}} ehlerswm@hackney.ecn.purdue.edu (William Mark Ehlers) writes:
}} 
}} > The real surprise of the game was that McNary looked impressive.  Was
}} > perfect from the floor and line and was the second leading scorer for a
}} > very balanced Boiler team.
}} 
}} Any comments, Corny fans? :^)

I am awestruck.  Unfortunately, I couldn't be at the game (I had to be
at childbirthing class, preparing for Baby Boilerweenie, due just
before the IU game at Mackey).

Perhaps McNary will finally live up to the promise he showed as a
freshman.

}} Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
   Brake your bike before the wall, or you'll break your bike upon the wall!

             "Home is the place where, when you have to go there,
                          They have to take you in."
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: UNC all-time greats
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:33:46 GMT

rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>>	Bonus points -- just who are the people I named above instead
>>	of all-time Carolina greats?  I'll be really impressed if someone
>>	can name them all...

>Worth a shot.

>Eddie is Michaels older brotherm the one Mike claims taught him everything
>he knows about hoops.

	Actually, Michael's older brother is named Larry.  He's 5'9",
	played for NC A&T in the late 70's-early 80's.  The vertical must
	be in the family.  I saw an old videotape of Larry doing 360
	dunks -- at 5'9"!!!

	Eddie Jordan was a former player for Rutgers, who later went on
	to play for the Lakers in the NBA (along w/ some other teams).
	I'm not sure about this, but I believe he was on that Final 4
	team in the 70's that also included future pro James Bailey.

>Steve Worthy played for Rutgers.

	Actually, the Steve Worthy I was thinking of played for Arkansas
	Little Rock in the mid 80's (I thought this one would stump
	anybody).  He was on the UALR team that upset Notre Dame in the
	'86 tourney, and then went on to lose in overtime to NC State.
	That team also featured future pro, and Jordan's practice whipping
	boy, Pete Myers.

	Jazzy J
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: crs@stein.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: Cougars defeat Canberra
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:06:10 GMT

jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
>rns@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Robert Noel STURROCK) writes:
>>jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer) writes:
>>
>>
>>>The Washington State Men's basketball team opened its season tonight
>>>with an 86-68 win over the Canberra Cannons in an exhibition game at
>>>Friel Court in Pullman.  I don't have many stats, so the following is
>>>from memory.
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>Yes, but who played for Canberra?
>
>No idea.  They didn't provide us with rosters or anything.
>I do know that they're playing pretty poorly though... they
>were blown out by Gonzaga University (Spokane, WA) the next
>night.  I think it was 89-65.

They were blown out here in Seattle a few nights before their trip to 
Pullman, 93-47.  Mark Pope had 29 points for the Huskies.  I do not
have stats for the game handy, nor do I recall who played for Canberra.

They were also blown out in Oregon the night before they got here by about
25 points or so.

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From: dwest@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dan West)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Recruiting class rankings
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:20:37 GMT

(Lawrence P. Colucci) writes:
>>
>>What about Ohio State?  I've read in several places that they had
>>one of the top 10 classes, and usually in the top 5.  Greg Simpson
>>and Charles "Killer" Macon will both probably start as freshmen this
>>year... but no one gives them any credit because they're in the same
>>division as Michigan and Indiana
>
>And there coach sucks. Flame Intended...When OSwho quits dodging
>UC they will gain my respect....

Just what we want, your respect.
Get a life.


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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: UK-Texas Western (was: Another All-Time team
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:35:33 GMT

fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis) writes:
>The funny thing about the team was that they ran 2 plays: a weave out 
>front and a back door kind of play. And they ran at every opportunity. 
>The weave worked for 1 reason: Dampier. As his name implied, Louie was
>a Damn-pure shooter. The story goes that when Rupp made his scouting trip 
>on Louie as a high school senior that Rupp only stayed for the first half: 
>Dampier had gone something like 10-11. Had the 3 pt shot been in place, 
>Dampier would have averaged about 30 pts a night. 

	Dampier was a legendary long-range shooter, from what I recall in
	his old ABA days.  He hit something like 37% -- from ABA 3-pt
	range, which was something like 27 feet, so that pretty much shows
	U the range he had on his jumper.  

>As a query, what were the heights of the Walt Hazzard-Gail Goodrich
>champs for UCLA. If I remember right, they weren't very tall either.

	I remember hearing John Wooden saying that on that team, he didn't
	have a regular player over 6'5".  Who says U need height to win
	ballgames?  The Fighting Illini in 88-89 didn't play anyone above
	6'7"...

	Jazzy J
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From: mfrwq@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Robert W. Quesal)
Subject: Re: Who is the worst ref?
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:15:06 GMT

This thread reminds me of the infamous "Jim Bain Controversy" at the U.
of Iowa about, what, 10 years ago?  At that time, my office mate and I
composed "The Iowa Cry Song" which I will now share:

[To the tune of "The Iowa Fight Song:]

"The word is cry, cry, cry for Iowa
Let ev'ry Hawk fan be in tears
The word is cry, cry, cry for Iowa
For all the bad calls o'er the years.
We're gonna jeer, jeer, jeer at the referees
For all the games they've called that Iowa hasn't won
We're gonna cry, cry, cry for Iowa
Until Jim Bain is hung!"

I've never seen Lute so upset....   ;-)>>

BQ
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Western Ill. U.                   mfrwq@ecnuxa.bitnet
                                  R-Quesal@bgu.edu
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UNC all-time greats
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:42:14 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <56995@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
>Carl Perkins is the old guy on Mutual of Omahas Wild Kingdom show who
>always hid behind the "protective screen" while his lowly assistants
>tagged the cheetah.
>

Just to clarify, yes I know it was Marlon Perkins, but I did not have
a clue who Carl Perkins was so I just fudged a bit .

Maybe you meant Carl Pickens a rookie receiver with the Bengals (-:.




Russ Smith
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From: gt6390a@prism.gatech.EDU (BERNSTEIN,AVRON P)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Poll
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:55:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: hydra.75102
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Sorry if this is an old thread, I haven't been reading this group that much,
but did anyone notice the preseason poll that came out?  I think the top
looked like this:	1) Michigan (36)
			2) Kansas (19)
			3) Duke (14)
			4) Indiana (4)
Something like that.  The # of 1st place votes might be wrong, but I think that
is the correct order for the top 4.  Personally, I was pleasantly surprised to
find Tech at #14.  I figured if we'd even be ranked it would be from 20-25.
The ACC had 4 teams in the poll: Duke(3), UNC(7), FSU(11?), and Tech(14).
I can't remember FSU and UNC's exact rankings, but they were both higher than
Tech's and one of them was #7.  The Big 10 also had MSU and I think Iowa.
I didn't really check the other conferences.
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Lafayette Hustlers vs Purdue
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Distribution: na
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:24:06 CST

In article <Bxv950.GK6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> rcbaker@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Bob Baker) writes:
>
>Hmmm.  Maybe the rest of the team is balanced, but I'm not sure you
>can call one guy scoring 30+ and everyone else getting single digits a 
>"very balanced team."  While I'm sure Robinson looked impressive, this
>game just goes to show what might be true of the Boilers this year:
>they're not bad, but shut down Robinson (or get him in foul trouble),
>and they may have trouble beating anybody.
>
>By the way, this isn't a flame against Purdue.  I'm always happy to
>see them doing well.  I just wanted to point out a flaw in what I see
>as a potentially good Boilermaker squad.  Thanks for posting the
>results of the game...I was curious to see how it turned out, and, as
>you can imagine, we just don't get a lot of Boiler news down here in
>Hoosierland.  

Not taken as a flame - rather as an observation of something that the rest
of the Boiler faithful here are probably concerned about.  However, these
games with AAU and touring teams tend to be a bit more wide-open than
usual, and I wouldn't base a lot on what happens within those games.  Wait
until Connecticut to get an idea of how things will be this year.
-- 

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Organization: Masters student, Industrial Administration, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA