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From: fs@cs.tulane.edu (Frank Silbermann)
Subject: Re: one-set Nautilus?  Home gyms?
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 22:47:56 GMT
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>+In article <BryFM5.ABv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, phc65823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter H. Chou) writes:
>+> 'The Nautilus Book' recommended that you do only one set to failure
>+> on each machine, and get outta there as fast as you can,
>+> so your workout only lasts 15-25 minutes or something like that.

>In article <1992Jul25.204901.8880@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>+ The trick is not to rest.  I didn't find that I could bulk up nearly
>+ as well as if I did low reps and rested between.  But then, that's
>+ the key to aerobic exercise.  ... Any activity in which you are working
>+ all muscles and working near maximum capacity is a good workout.

In article <1992Jul26.162710.6395@intelhf.hf.intel.com> hutch@hutch (Stephen Hutchison) writes:
> Jones' theory is inadequate for anything more than maintaining
> moderate conditioning and size.  This has been proven experimentally
> by Jones' own institute.  One-set-to-failure simply does not provide
> adequate muscle fiber recruitment to stimulate sustained growth.

I agree.  When I used the one-set-to-failure Nautilus method,
my gains peaked after about a nine months.  I was satisfied,
because I didn't have time to fool around yet it gave me:
1) moderate bulk (that's not too bad, since I'm quite an ectomorph)
2) protection against injuries when playing other sports.

Now I don't have time even to go to a Nautilus club.
I want a fast safe solitary workout (no spotters),
and I'm more interested in avoiding tennis injuries
and middle-age spread than building unusual size.
Also, my wife wants to use it as a slimming device.
Would this make me the ideal candidate for a home gym?

I have no spotter, little time, and my wife won't have weights
cluttering up the apartment, so free weights are out.
We won't have cables and weight stacks around our toddlers.
I've ruled out rubber-band machines after reading this group
and thinking about the unlikelyhood of matching rubberband
stretch characteristics to a muscle's strength curve.

Isodynamic machines (Trimax, Nordic Flex Plus) lack negative
resistance (you cannot benefit from slowly lowering the weight),
but you can press with full strength throughout the motion
(like trying to swim in quicksand -- the next fitness fad??) :-)
So, unless I change my mind in the next day or two,
I expect to bite the bullet and shell out $1k+ for Trimax machine.

I would _really_ welcome hearing from people who have used one
(or Nordic Flex Gold, which is probably its nearest competitor).
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Frank Silbermann	fs@cs.tulane.edu
Tulane University	New Orleans, Louisiana  USA
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: one-set on Nautilus?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 20:49:01 GMT

In article <BryFM5.ABv@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, phc65823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peter H. Chou) writes:
> 
> 
> I was reading this book called 'The Nautilus Book' and inside
> it recommended that you do only one set to failure on each machine,
> and get outta there as fast as you can, so your workout only
> lasts 15-25 minutes or something like that.  Is that better,
> like the book says, or is it better to do three sets or something
> like that?

Actually, if you really do what Jones is saying here, you will
build bulk and get a fairly decent cardiovascular workout.  The
trick is not to rest.  I didn't find that I could bulk up nearly
as well as if I did low reps and rested between.  But then, that's
the key to aerobic exercise.  I'm not convinced that Nautilus, or
any other workout like this (any exercises without resting) will
bulk up any better than any other exercise.  It's just that any
activity in which you are working all muscles and working near
maximum capacity is a good workout.

It's all a tradeoff.  A great cardiovascular workout is jogging/
running for a long period of time, since it uses large muscles that
need a lot of oxygen.  But then, you don't work your arms.  Working
your arms, will help, but then you could run out of gas before
your legs would otherwise.

I suspect (although I can't say, because my personal experience is
obviously only one data point, and others' experience is kind of
hearsay) that the different Nautilus effort curve results in a
different size muscle belly.  How the thickness of the muscle
at various points relates to oxygen requirements and how that
varies with an individual's genetics is tough to determine.  I
do know that case studies, such as Casey Viator (the "Some City"
experiment), dealt with an individual with pre-existing muscle
size, and a known easy-gainer.

Bottom line, in general, if you're working near maximum, it's a
good workout.  And if nothing else, Nautilus machines are built
ruggedly.

GMS
From: dhar@Kevan4.uoregon.edu (Sanjay Dhar)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: re: fat metabolism
Date: 29 Jul 92 19:13:59 GMT
Organization: Materials Science Institute

From: Phusiology of exercise (3rd ed) by Herbert A. deVries, page 344

Metabolic Aftereffects of Exercise. The increase in metabolic rate incurred 
during physical activity is the main cause of energy loss. As long ago as 
1933, the work of Margaria, Edwards, and Dill(22) mentioned an increased 
resting metabolic rate that lasted for several hours after completion of 
exercise and could not be attributed to repayment of oxygen debt.
	This increased metabolic rate was further investigated in the author'
s lab(8). In a controlled expt. it was found that the resting metabolic rate 
was from 7.5% to 28% higher four hours after a vigorous workout than it was 
at the same time of day on nonexercise days. This higher metabolic rate was 
shown to persist for atleast six hours after exercise, and this effect of 
exercise--over and above the energy cost of the exercise itself-would have 
resulted in a weight loss of four or five pounds per year if the individuals
tested had exercised daily.
From: uunet.edu!csfb1!dwarren@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: New Triathlon
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:17:00 GMT
Organization: First Boston Corporation
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I think I've invented a new triathlon I'd like to try.  In New York's 
Central Park, one circuit around the park is around 10K.

  30K on bicycle
  20K on rollerblades
  10K running

I'd shoot (aggressively) for under three hours.

Anyone tried something similar?
Or interested in trying this?

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From: kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: *
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:39:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul27.153946.50121
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: kji@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU

>From: SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU!kji+@overmind.mind.org
>Subject: Re:LOOK at what Art Wittman did...
>Date: 23 Jul 92 02:01:00 GMT
>Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
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You're easily threatened.
From: wittmann@engr.wisc.edu (art wittmann)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Ugh... pendulum effect.
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:55:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: doug.1992Jul21.085509.14208
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Originator: wittmann@muskie.engr.wisc.edu


In article <Brpy5w.Avo@cs.dal.ca>, gauthier@ug.cs.dal.ca (Paul Gauthier) writes:
|> 
|> Well, I dropped to 170 pounds, definately the lowest I've ever been. 

Wow, I feel sorry for your mother!  170+ at birth, amazing!

Art
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: TAC@ysub.ysu.edu (Troy Allen Cross)
Subject: Re: MUSCLE MEMORY!!!!!
Organization: Youngstown State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 11:59:16 GMT

In article <14562@umd5.umd.edu>
silver@woodstock.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
 
>
>My bench press has skyrocketted in the past 3 weeks since I started to go
>heavy.  Tonight I did...
>
>Flat bench:
>
>Barx12, 135x10, 225x10, 275x5, 315x1, 275x4
>
>Incline bench:
>
>135x10, 185x10, 225x5, 245x2, 225x4
>
>Flat dumbbell presses:
>
>85x10, 85x10, 85x7
>
Adam, it looks like you pyramid your weights on the first two exercises.
Doesn't doing reps in the 1-5 rep range play havoc with your joints?
Do they really help much to increase your weights?
 
As for myself, anything below 6 reps just doesn't feel like it is working
the muscle (just the joint).  And, after a few weeks of doing 4 straight sets
of 6 reps my joints just need a break.  Of course, I believe that you are in
your lower twenties?  That might explain it.  Because, back when I was in
my lower twenties I do not remember having any problems with joint soreness
and I was doing mostly 4-5 sets of 6 reps. (F.Y.I.  I am 30, almost 31 now.)
 
I am wondering how others have changed their workout as they get older and
more experienced ;-) at lifting weights.
 
For myself, I try to keep my sets in the 3-5 range, my reps in the 12-8 rep
range, the amount of weight the same for each set (after warmup), and usually
on the reps decrease (slightly) as the sets increase.
 
Example:  Flat Bench Press - 125x12 (warmup), 175x12 (warmup), 245-10,
245x9, 245x8.
 
Troy
From: SSDC2@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU (J Green)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Ugh... pendulum effect.
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:15:17 GMT

>From: gauthier@ug.cs.dal.ca (Paul Gauthier)
>Then I got food poisoning. Either that or a really fast virus. I got
>really sick out of the blue one evening, puked the hell out of myself...

something like this (virus/puking) means you probably lost alot of water.

>Well, I dropped to 170 pounds, definately the lowest I've ever been. Now,
>_only_ 4 days later I'm experiencing the pendulum effect. I have actually
>put a bunch of my spare tire back on and am up to 172 or so.

i'm not sure i'd call this a pendulum effect!
what you lost when you dropped to 170 was *water*, not fat. water lost
from virus/puking is gained back once you drink fluids.

>Worst of all
>my weight training has seen a setback. My workout yesterday was way down,
>and today I paid attention and noticed about a 5-10# drop in my bench press
>set weight. Urgh. Hopefully it's only a lagging bit of the virus or illness
>that was apon me and won't last.

probably just the virus not totally gone.

>Perhaps I am just oversensitive, but I have been paying very close attention
>to my fat level, and it really does seem like I had a setback.

now you have an idea of what we females go thru *every* month! ;-)
can be hell, no wonder we get bitchy sometimes, eh?! ;-)

Janice :-)

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Organization: Sophomore, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 13:40:04 -0400 
From: "Laurence D. Silverman" <ls3c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Mid-workout tiredness...

Hiya.  I'm new to the group and I've got a couple of questions:

My workouts usually last about two hours.  The first hour, my energy
level is fine, but into the second, I begin to get fatigued, I slow down,
take too much time between sets, lose initiative, etc.  I understand this
is due to my drained glycogen stores.  My question is, what's the best thing
to eat/drink while working out in order to keep energy levels high (in
addition to plenty of water)?

Also, I've been taught to eat carbs about an hour before a workout.  Who else
subscribes to this regimen and what do you eat?
Thanks,


Lar
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman)
Subject: WBF Folds!
Organization: UCLA, Mathematics Department
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 02:02:32 GMT

My buddy Ron just got back from Golds @ Venice. The
word is that the WBF has folded. Their magazine is dead too.
McMahaon will keep a few of the best guys on contract to
advertize supplements in his WWF mags.

So, bid farewell to the WBF----couldn't be too soon, based
on their last show. They only sold 1000 pay per view subscriptions
to that show, too.

PS: Ron benched 545 today. His bench contest is in two weeks. But,
he probably wont go over 555 in this show, due to a forearm injury last 
week.

--
Barry Merriman
UCLA Dept. of Math
UCLA Inst. for Fusion and Plasma Research
barry@math.ucla.edu (Internet; NeXTMail is welcome)
From: dcox@relay.nswc.navy.mil (David Cox)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: relaxation exercises?
Date: 31 Jul 92 20:12:17 GMT
Followup-To: misc.fitness
Organization: NSWC

In article <92212.082648EWN1@psuvm.psu.edu>, EWN1@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
> 
> Can anyone recommend good relaxation techniques (perhaps even a book that
> talks about relaxation techniques and stress reduction)?  I know
> vigorous exercise can help relieve stress, but I've been sidelined for a
> while because of some injuries.  I have problems relaxing at bed time -- I
> tend to get nauseated at night when I try to sleep.  Any suggestions?
> Thanks in advance.

The book "Somatics" by Thomas Hannah explains in detail relaxation
techniques
that have helped me to learn to relax, to understand how stress manifests
itself
physically. A godsend. 
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: baker@westsd.dco.dec.com (Art Baker)
Subject: Re: FAQ: Vitamin advice?
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:21:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.123911.239@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu> loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>
>Ken,  Vitamin E is NOT SAFE at high levels[...]

 I'm curious as to the kinds of symptoms you're observing with high
dosages of vitamin E.  I've been mega-dosing with E for well over a
decade, and so far there's no evidence of any problems, immunological 
or otherwise. Could you elaborate a bit ?

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From: lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller)
Subject: Re: MUSCLE MEMORY!!!!!
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Tucson Az.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:15:53 GMT

In article <14584@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>...
>I am 21.  I had been lifting for only 15 months when I maxed 340 (with a
>pause) at a weight of 162.
>
>                                                        -Adam

Adam,

What weight were you doing on bench when you started lifting? (After, say,
about a month?) Also, how much are you squatting [deep squats]?

Luther
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: arm wrestling/Adam Silver
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:11:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbnewse.1992Jul24.161127.28661
Organization: AT&T

In article <14639@umd5.umd.edu>, silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
> In article <1992Jul23.164753.249991@cs.cmu.edu> kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico) writes:
> >You've had two men pulling on your arm, and they lost.  Hmmm...
> >
> >So it would make it more fun for me, don't you think...(unless you think
> >you're too much of a he-man to wrestle a woman...Huh?)  What about it?
> >C'mon!  What are ya, a sissy?
> >
> >(My elbow's on the table)
> 
> Sorry for the confusion.  I meant that one man using 2 arms couldn't beat me.
> I can't do that with just anyone, of course, but those guys were pretty strong.
> I don't mind armwrestling women (and other things).  :-)  Ha!

How the heck would anyone get any leverage armwrestling with two arms?
I mean, how would you grip?  How would you sit?  How would you look
with both elbows on the table?  Like a pretzel, and an unbalanced one
at that?

GMS
From: kji+@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU (Kathi Iannamico)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: whoops
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:44:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Jul27.154424.54701
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Originator: kji@SPEECH1.CS.CMU.EDU

that last post of mine "*" got totally screwed up.  Half of it was meant
for another bboard...sorry....
From: clong@remus.rutgers.edu (Chris Long)
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: Kirelin and HGHMr Long has made a couple of accusations against the Russian
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:51:59 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <92213.120342JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET>, JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET writes:

>      Kirelin is a genetic marvel, a man with incredible size who has
> trained himself into peak condition.  Give the man some credit.

I'd like to, but I can't believe that someone who is so far above
the other Greco-Roman supers both technically (has never lost an
international match, 100+ straight wins) and physically (the only
person able to do a reverse lift, fantastic physique) is not a
drug-user.  Neither can the other supers, either, based on what
they call him.
-- 
Chris Long, 265 Old York Rd., Bridgewater, NJ  08807-2618

"In a study of schoolboys, an educator discovered a correlation between size
 of feet and quality of handwriting.  The boys with the larger feet were,
 on the average, older."        Wallis & Roberts, _The Nature of Statistics_
From: berra.cs.rpi.edu!cecchinr@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
Subject: Re: LOOK at what Art Wittmann did to my Powerlifting Sig
Date: 23 Jul 92 00:04:00 GMT
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
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In article <14613@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>In article <f=sxaqb@rpi.edu> cecchinr@berra.cs.rpi.edu (Ron Cecchini) 
writes:
>>
>>Will you 2 girly-men give it a rest!
>>
>>We all know I could kick both your asses!
>>
>>Ron
>
>Prove it, you wimp!  :-)
>
>Do you want to armwrestle me too?  We should have a bench/squat/armwrestling
>competition.  :-)
>
>       -Adam
>
>-- 
>     **********************************************************************
>     *               Adam Silver    Powerlifter/Armwrestler               *
>     *           silver@umd5.umd.edu    University of Maryland            *
>     **********************************************************************

Ah,  I don't have to prove nothin' !

But now that you mention it, Poo tells me that you
are going to be visiting our part of the world soon -
so maybe we'll see soon enough *just* how good you are (and then
I'll get to post a really good critique on the net!)

Ron
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: dss@styx.desktalk.com (David S. Spencer)
Subject: Arms not same size - what to do?
Organization: DeskTalk Systems Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:30:06 GMT

Even my Mom's noticed what I've always suspected..."Gee David, one arm
looks bigger than the other."  

This morning I extended my "cold" arms and measured my unflexed biceps - my 
right bicep was 14 1/4 and my left 13 1/4.  FYI, I'm left handed (though
not a full lefty as I kick and bat "right").

Normally I lift on a 4 days a week split system but am doing more of a
random varity of things this summer...but this fall I'll be back on the
4x/week.

How can I get my arms to be the same size?  Don't curl as much w/ my
right arm?  I have been treating them equally in the sense of attempting
to lift the same amount, but of course the right ends up being able
to curl more.

	Thanks...

		-- Dave

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From: frank@owlnet.rice.edu (Franklin Tae-Sung Kang)
Subject: Re: Triceps
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:56:15 GMT

In article <14653@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.171105.1030@cbnewse.cb.att.com> gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul24.145031.21742@nrao.edu>, lmiller@heineken.tuc.nrao.edu (Luther Miller) writes:
>>> 	nosebreakers -- (anyone know the official name?)
>>> 		using a curling bar, hands in the inner position
>>> 		70 - 10  Its important to keep you elbows in as much as
>>Now, I've always done an exercise that was referred to in the books
>>I read as "French Presses" or "Lying French Triceps Presses" or some
>
>I've also heard them called SKULL CRUSHERS.

That's the name I like to use.  It give me a little more motivation
to not give up on that last rep -  100 lbs on the forehead would
hurt slightly.  Now if I could only think of an exercise with such
consequences for bicep curls and lat pulldowns...

Frank
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: Reg Foulkes
Subject: Re: LOOK at what Art Wittmann did to my Powerlifting Sig
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:10:52 GMT

In article <14613@umd5.umd.edu> silver@macbeth.umd.edu (Adam Silver) writes:

>
>Do you want to armwrestle me too?  We should have a bench/squat/armwrestling
>competition.  :-)
>
>							-Adam

 How about bench/squat/armwrestling/legwrestling competition. I'll win the 
two that Adam looses.

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Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: poo@athena.mit.edu (Claude Poux)
Subject: Re: Dymetadrine 25 (Mike)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:55:37 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.121130.189@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu> loszewski_im@sage.hnrc.tufts.edu writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.181536.4769@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, ah532@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Gleba) writes:
>> Does anybody have any info/experience with this stuff? Side effects? 
>> or anything? All info would be greatly appreciated. Send mail if
>> possible.
>> 
>> -MIke
>> 
>> -- 
>> Bodybuilders and Volleyball Players Will Rule The World
>
>Hi Mike,

>Dymetadrine 25 is nothing but pure ephedrine hydrochloride which is a mild
>central nervous system stimulator.  It encourages the production of norepi-
>nephrine.  This in turn acts as a mild bronchodilator.
>To make a long story short, it psychs you up for one hell of a workout.  You
>can lift more weight and get cut as well.
>Again, DO NOT ABUSE THIS DRUG!!  Everything I'm telling you I have researched
>and tried.  If you feel that you need to take more, then back off on it for
>a while and give your body a rest from it.
>If you have anymore questions about it, feel free to email me.
>
>Rob
>Loszewski_im@hnrc.tufts.edu

rob, also bear in mind that dym 25 is not fda approved.

poobear
Newsgroups: misc.fitness
From: mvm@vader.harris-atd.com (Matt Mahoney)
Subject: Re: Coenzyme Q10 Confiscations
Reply-To: mvm@epg.harris.com (Matt Mahoney)
Organization: CAE Design Center, Harris Corp., Melbourne, Fl.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:53:31 GMT

mistik@grex.ann-arbor.mi.us (Mustafa Soysal) writes:
>adishian@dorm.rutgers.edu (Aram Adishian) writes:
>>
>>From what I have been told, the FDA has been confiscating Coenzyme Q10
>>nationwide as an "unapproved food additive."
>
>What is this enzyme for?

It's a fraud.  It's an ingredient in a product (E-Caps, I think) endorsed
by highly paid triathletes that is supposed to give you endurance.  The
idea is that it is one of the enzymes involved in metabolism.

Unfortunately, an enzyme is just protein, so it gets broken down into
amino acids in the stomach.  (This is how they get away with selling it
without FDA approval; protein is a food, not a drug.)  Triathlon Today
did a product review (they also advertise it) and cited a study that
found it no more effective than a placebo.

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