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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:02:28 CST
From:         user for becarios <txmkb@TXM.ERICSSON.SE>
Subject:      La Tarea

Hi all!       <------Another boring comment From Arex------>

    This is to all of you, mexican film fans out there. I'am glad to
inform you that the movie called "La Tarea" (the homework), a Jorge
Humberto Hermosillo film, has been released. From my point of
view, I think is an exelent movie. It's part of the new era
of mexican cinema. So don't miss it. It's a great comedy. It has
been a while since I laugh so loud in a mexican film in these
days, with the exception of the film "La Risa en Vacaciones"  <---
---- as a comment, this film is not really a movie, is like
hidden camera, makeing "actors" of real people.

Bye, till the next one. ADIOS!

Manuel Fernandez (Arex)
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 07:48:00 EDT
From:         Peter.Giordano@WILLIAMS.EDU
Subject:      John Badham
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John Badham, the director, is in town (I guess because he is on the board
of the Williamstown Theater Festival) - I met him at the local newstand (the
one place in town where one can buy a Sunday New York Times) - Isn't he
slated to direct the amercian version of LA FEMME NIKITA? (I was too polite
to ask him)
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:31:00 EDT
From:         CHARLES BENSON <BENSONCH@HUGSE2.BITNET>
Subject:      new subscriber

new subscriber "Charles J. Benson, II" -- BENSONCH
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:17:22 PDT
From:         Jennifer Porro <BL.JMP@RLG.BITNET>
Subject:      Woody Allen in the news

REPLY TO 08/14/92 04:02 FROM CINEMA-L@AUVM.BITNET "Discussions on all forms of
Cinema": Woody Allen in the news

Well, Diane Keaton's career could use a good shot in the arm -- maybe
Woody should look her up (I'm half serious, half kidding).  Jennifer

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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:21:29 -0500
From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Movies + a "political spoiler" at the end

Hmm. _Thelma & Louise_ and misogyny?  Before I elaborate on what I've thought
about the film (part of which could be inferred from this question), Anjani,
could you clarify how you find them related?

Jeff Calrk
James Madison Univ.
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From:         Jennifer Porro <BL.JMP@RLG.BITNET>
Subject:      incest in movies

REPLY TO 08/19/92 05:41 FROM CINEMA-L@AUVM.BITNET "Discussions on all forms of
Cinema": Grifters, etc.

What about Louis Malle's MURMUR OF THE HEART.  Also, Jill Clayburgh
was in some movie in the early 1980s about incest (directed by an
Italian director?).  Jennifer

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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:31:10 CDT
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From:         "A.J. Wright" <MEDS002@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: We mustn't say Potato Head...

I thought the movie that was _withdrawn_ from release to tv after the JFK
assasination was the film _Suddenly_, in which F. Sinatra plays a presiden-
tial assasin...great film, by the way; shows up regularly on AMC
---A.J. Wright/meds002@uabdpo
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Yes, it's true.  Manchurian Candidate was also held-up for release because
it painted a dark portrait of the government.  Sinatra called Kennedy, a
friend of his, Kennedy called the studio head and informed him how much
he enjoyed the book and looked forward to seeing the film.  It was released
several months later.
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From: smith@panther.adelphi.edu (Jim Smith)
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch <yum-yum>
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Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:42:36 GMT

In article <CINEMA-L%92081115522151@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET writes:

>Sorry if I missed this discussion during the theater run (I've
>only been a list member for a couple of months now).

>I rented out _Naked Lunch_ and was able to figure out the
>basics, but felt I was missing much (partly due to the fact
>that I was unable to watch it straight through in one sitting)
>I don't have any specific questions, but was just looking for
>some reactions to it.

>And how about this for a double feature: _Naked Lunch_
>and _Barton Fink_ (you could throw in _Eraserhead_ for good
>measure).

>Sincerely from the home state of William Munny (sp?) and Josey Wales,

>Joe Daus  U of MO-Columbia
>C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET

I saw it recently too.  How about them Mugwumps for disgusting slime!  

I liked NL better than BF.  I'm no beatnik. I knew the odd stuff happening 
in NL was from the drugs Bill was doing.  What was BF's excuse?  It's hard 
to believe, in this time of "say 'no' to drugs," that a heavy doper could 
write such great stuff while in the zone!

I went to the library and gathered up a bunch of Burroughs' books.  The film 
appears to be from _Naked Lunch_, _Exterminator!_, _Interzone_, and probably 
others.  Burroughs _Letters to Alen Ginsberg_ were insightful into his 
personal doubts and fears.

My all time fav. double bill: _Green Berets_ and _Yellow Submarine_

Jim "film from literature" Smith
smith1.franklin@panther.adelphi.edu
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:30:42 EDT
From:         "Kenneth R. Jackson" <PUPAPKJ@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Hot Shots

Possible spoilers but I am not sure...........


















There are a few paradies in this movie from other movies. Only two come to
mind  Top Gun and 9 1/2 weeks. Were there any other paradies in this movie?
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:16:00 EDT
From:         FISHERKJ@SNYONEVA.BITNET
Subject:      SOTL insomnia

3am, and I just watched Silence of the Lambs for the first time.

Sleep? Not a chance. I'd probably dream of liver. But I take
comfort in one thought...

                        (SPOILER AHEAD...)


























...I'm cheered by the image of that schmuck doctor's innards
winding up in Lecter's salad plate. And we thought D. Cavett was an...


kjf-
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:05:00 EDT
From:         Peter.Giordano@WILLIAMS.EDU
Subject:      Re: Woody's woody, & the cabana boy
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Gerald says that Woody Allen's actions are "inescapably the moral
equivalent of incest ... he was essentially her father since she
was 9 or 10" - If Allen was "essentially her father" perhaps Gerald
would be right, but do we know this? He was dating Mia; they never
lived together - was the child on the scene or was she under the care
of nannies, prep schools, etc. - If I were dating Mia Farrow I doubt that
I would bring my kids along  - This whole issue depresses me for a bunch
of reasons including: 1) the media reporting every rumour as if it were
a fact, 2) the strange relationship between the films and life (imagine
a date with Tim Burton), 3) the destruction of what was a very fruitful
movie collaborative team.  If the allegations of child abuse are true and
if we are indeed hearing reports of what is "the moral equivalent of
incest" I will really be depressed and mortified - Meanwhile I wish there
was a good movie to talk about.
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:35:32 -0400
From:         K_REAGAN@UNHH.UNH.EDU
Subject:      RE: Not quite Hamlet...
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Yes,  It was brilliant... Dinner With Andre meets Shakespeare.  It was based, by
 the way, on a 1967 (?) play by Tom Stoppard. And Rosencrantz, or was it
 Guildenstern? was of course Oswald from JFK.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 13:08:49 PDT
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From:         Joan Crenshaw <3714P@NAVPGS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Movies + a "political spoiler" at the end

Thank you, Peter, you saved me the trouble of saying the same thing!
                            Joan

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
Scott says "Get this crap off Cinema-L" - What crap is he talking about?
Seems to me that most of what goes on at Cinema-l is conversational so
people talking about their political views seems pretty normal to me -
The common interest in movies extends to other stuff too I guess.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:06:00 EDT
From:         "Peter J. Schledorn" <UNCPJS@UNC.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Woody Allen

> Kjf....
> I find myself agreeing with you more and more with each posting.  The thing
> that surprises me and really shouldn't is the attention that this "Woody
> Allen-thing" is getting.  It was the second item on network news yesterday and
> CNN has been running this tabloid trash every hour on the hour.  The GOP
> convention and  Woody Allen scandal all at once, I think I'll rent a movie
> tonight!

That's what my wife and I did.  In honor of Pat Buchanan's incessant
Hillary-bashing, we watched Thelma & Louise.

By all reports, it was far superior to Phil Gramm's elocution homework.
:-).

Best,
Peter

> Mike
> MSU.
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:28:00 EST
From:         AMBLY@CLUST1.CLEMSON.EDU
Subject:      Re: wild at heart
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Lauri B: From the first time I saw the movie (I've only seen it three times),
I always thought of Lula as Dorothy and Sailor as the Tin Man setting off on
the Yellow Brick Road to Oz.  Their Oz being a place where they could be
free to love without interference from Lula's momma, better known as the
Wicked Witch of the West.  Her henchmen instead of the flying monkeys.
were people like Bobby Peru and the Cajuns.  Those are the most obvious
impressions I got.

Adrian
Clemson
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 13:56:00 CDT
From:         Jan Levine Thal / JHR / 262-4867 <THAL@MACC.WISC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: We mustn't say Potato Head...

In the press release for the theatrical re-release of MC, the distributor said
 all of
the considerations were legal and financial and that the stuff about the Kennedy
assassination wasn't true.  But who believes distributors?
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:22:57 CDT
From:         Carol Slingo <slingo@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
Subject:      when Mexican movies are on the air
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Do Univision and Telemundo programs appear at the same time in every city?
My Telemundo station has a lot of local programming which would I assume go
on instead of the regular program at that time, unless these local times
were available across the network.

But for dish-people, here are the usual schedules of movies in Chicago

on Telemundo:

weekdays

8-10 AM Central Daylight Time 1 hour before Eastern Daylight Time
noon-2 PM
8-10 PM

Weekends have various movies.  I think one Saturday afternoon and a lot of
movies late-night.  On a recent weekend there were 4 Mexican films on
Channel 44 starting at around 9 PM. So if you set your recorder to catch
everything from 9 PM Sat. all night you would probably pick up something. Might
be a surprise! As I said before they show a lot of Pastor, Alcoriza,
Hermosillo's MATINEE has been on twice lately... the films are cut and
there is a lot of advertising but a 90 minute movie in a 2 hour slot is
going to have some remains!

Univision used to have a film every night but no longer in Chicago anyway.

Galavision is offered only as a pay channel on my cable so I don't get it.
TV guide lists _all_ the movies in Chicago on all 3 networks.  It took them
years to get it right, but now it is pretty accurate (of course the
population served is huge--they'd better!).

Hope this helps.

Carol Slingo
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:26:34 +0000
From:         the Freshman Scott Huddle <huddle@VTTCF.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Woody Allen
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In the Life imitating Art category...

Allen's latest film, due out this fall, is called _Husbands and Wives_.

-scott

Perhaps a sequel, _Husbands and Wives and Daughters_.  Anybody seen
a picture of Soon Yi?  Any mention of acting ability (as if it matters
to Allen) or other artistic bent?  Doesn't Allen star all of his
romantic interests eventually?
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:37:00 EDT
From:         Navin Ganeshan <NGANESHA@UDCVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: 3 Amigos

>From: MANUEL FERNANDEZ <txm.txmkb@MEMO.ERICSSON.SE>
>
>Hi all, hola amigos.
>
>Some one gave credits to A.Arau for his apperance in the movie
>Three Amigos, With Chevy Chase,Steve Martin and Martin Short. He
>played "El Guapo". But did U know that the movie never got to
>any theater in Mexico? They said the movie was offensive to our
>people. (well that's what the critics said)  8).
>
>See ya later, bye
>Manuel Fernandez (Arex)

   IMHO, you didn't miss much.  It was the only Steve Martin movie that
   I've have had to fast forward through. Chase, Martin and Short -
   individually great performers - were a disasterous combination in this
   movie.

   [I was away for a while, but came back to a renewed discussion of the
    merits of Hudson Hawk(e?).  It's always nice to come home...:-)     ]
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Date: 14 Aug 92 18:53:00 GMT
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>Ellison got pissed (as is
>his tendency)

A friend who worked for years in an upscale art-framing store
in LA had generally positive things to say about most of the
celebs he did business with.

The one exception: Harlan Ellison. My friend says
Ellison behaved like Dick Cavett.

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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:42:00 EST
From:         MCINTYRE@MSUPA.BITNET
Subject:      turkey alert: "Are You Lonesome Tonight?"

Wasted my time with a bad video last night and hope to spare others the
tedium.  The first clue is the title really has nothing to do with the
film and the song is never used.  Why make a movie with a title taken
from a song and then not use the song?

The opening scene was a nice economical set-up: a woman overhears her
husband engaging in phone sex but hangs up the extension just before
he gets a call which implies he is involved in some shady business
practices.  (First movie I remember where call waiting is an important
plot element.)  But it's downhill from there.  Too many red herrings,
and the mystery is solved off camera with the results being told to
the protagonist just so she can know the person she is confronting is
really the killer - even though there has been no evidence presented to
suggest the killer's identity; heck, the movie has been strewing evidence
that hubby is still alive.  There is the stench of multiple rewrites by
different scriptwriters hanging about this one; one person couldn't
muddle up a script this badly.

Sample scene from early on: hubby is late coming home, so the woman searches
his home office.  As she opens the door, *all* the lights are on - not just
the overhead light, but the little accent lamps in the corner as well.  We
saw him leave in the early morning sunshine.  Did he work late and just
forget to turn all the lamps off?  Or is everything on a timer circuit?
Or is the script just out to lunch?  And the office has four safes built
into the walls.  With glass front panels and interior lighting so the
contents can be easily viewed!?!  Isn't that the way you would design a
safe?  With a glass front so wifey can easily smash it in and examine
the incriminating contents you've so carefully spotlit?

No brains, no sex, no violence.  The cast is easy on the eyes, but insomnia
would be the only justification for watching this one.

John McIntyre
Physics - Astronomy Dept
Michigan State University
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:57:38 -0400
From:         J-HILL@UMINN1.BITNET
Subject:      Sheltering Sky

 I too saw The Sheltering Sky over the weekend.  What a waste of all the talent
 involved.  After I turned it off--I did make it through--I kept wondering what
 was the point?  If anybody else has seen this film, please let me know if there
  was a point.

 Jeff
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 11:14:00 CDT
From:         C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Raising Cain

>>From: C444307 <C444307@MIZZOU1.BITNET>
>>
>>Saw this one and it was (ho-hum) o.k.  Make sure to check
>>it out as a matinee, or better yet wait till it comes out
>>on video.  (No nifty special effects, awesome scenery, or
>>anything else that requires the BIG SCREEN.)  Lithgow is
>>very good, everybody else is pretty much like soggy cornflakes.
>
>Just a thought:  Surely if a movie is worth seeing at all, it is
>worth seeing on the big screen.  Just because it doesn't "require"
>the large screen, that doesn't mean that it will be equally good
>on the small screen.
>
>Personally, I'd rather see any film on the big screen, as it was
>meant to be seen (and heard).
>
>Of course, it's not always possible to see every movie you want to
>see, and video is a convenient way of catching up.  However, it
>really doesn't compare.
>			  Liam.
>			  ====-
With the cost of going to the movies today????  Are you serious?
>     KERR AVON    |   Work: ICL,   *"A misprint?"
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>  All e-mail to:- | Home: Glasgow, *"Eel escolope?!?"
>lcc@win.icl.co.uk |    Scotland    *      --  Basil Fawlty & a guest
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From:         DU013@OASIS.CALPOLY.EDU
Subject:      Re: Star Trek VI film/video diff
              14 Aug 1992 08:46:00 EDT from "Mike.Simmons"
              <20676MES@MSU.BITNET>

From:  Mary Shaffer


Mike... I seem to recall several references in Next Generation two years ago
to a conspiracy within StarFleet. Some mucky muck confided in Picard about it.
It seemed to continue through several episodes but in the background only --
nothing was ever resolved or at least I don't remember if it was. Sorry I
can't be more specific. Does this ring a bell with anyone? I'll ask my
better half tonight. Hopefully his memory is better than mine!

Thanks,
Mary
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From:         "Kenneth R. Jackson" <PUPAPKJ@PACEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: John Ritter
              14 Aug 1992 09:45:17 EDT from <THOMPSON_O@RSO.DNET .GE.COM>

On Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:45:17 EDT Orlanda Thompson --- Rm M1310 Bldg. 100 --- Ext
>I'm would like to check out the new one by John Ritter this weekend; can
>someone
>tell me the name of the movie?  The previews look hilarious; especially him
>doing a impression of Prince.  Has anyone seen any sneak previews?
>

The name of the movie is Stay Tuned. It stars John Ritter and Pam Dawber
(Mindy form Mork and Mindy). Pam was on the Arsenio Hall show last night
and talked about the film. She shows some trailers but IMHO, it's a movie
I'll wait for video before seeing it. There was a good message behind the
movie she adds is people are sitting home watching too much television and
not paying enough time with their family, especially the kids. I am not sure
if this message is directed at the husbands or not.
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From:         ed.j.hahr@UWRF.EDU
Subject:      Re: AFTER THE CREDITS ROLL...
X-To:         Discussions on all forms of Cinema <CINEMA-L@american.edu>
              12 Aug 92 14:43:49 EST."
              <9208121848.AA05496@enterprise.acc.uwrf.edu>

I guess the premiere showings of Star Trek VI has a 10 to 15 minute
montage of footage from the TV shows and movies after the credits.
At least that was what I was told by people who saw the movie a day
or two before it came out. I waited on the release date and the footage
wasn't there.

ED
ed.j.hahr@uwrf.edu
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Subject: Re: John Ritter
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:48:06 GMT
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Bon jour,
 The the film is titled "Stay Tuned"
 Very interesting I think how it satires and puns everday television and how
couch people we may become@@
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 09:21:35 -0500
From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Film adaptations and remakes

Rick, in terms of books in your library, could you give some idea (if there
aren't too many) of what you've found, so those could be eliminated?
Jeff Clark
James Madison Univ.
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:41:54 -0500
From:         FAC_JCLARK@JMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Not quite Hamlet...

If I remember correctly,  it wasn't only based on Stoppard's play, but he
directed it too.  Haven't seen it yet.  --JC at JMU
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 14:41:09 PDT
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Subject: Re: Woody Allen
              18 Aug 1992 15:02:00 EDT from Penny Ward <UNCPEW@UNC.BITNET>

From:  Mary Shaffer


I heard the CNN report, also, but I think they reported Allen's age as 56!

Thanks,
Mary
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