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Organization: K.U.Leuven - Academic Computing Center
Date: Tuesday, 22 Dec 1992 12:10:56 +01
From: Joseph A. Selling <FAAAA11@cc1.kuleuven.ac.be>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.wpcorp-l
Subject: Re: more footnotes

Reading the articles Re: Footnotes, I get the impression that most of the
attempts described are making macros at the keyboard rather than using the
macro editor. There are considerable advantages to the latter. But first...
   To edit notes, there is no reason to REMOVE them from the original document.
With the original in doc 1, use the Footnote edit function, copy the text,
place it in doc 2, return to doc 1 and repeat. With the original notes still
in the original document, you have a spare, just in case something goes wrong.
   When time comes to replace the edited notes, same procedure, with original
document in doc 1, use the edit function, exit the note, backspace to eliminate
the note, got to doc 2, get the edited version, put it back in doc 1 as a
footnote (the cursur will be in the same position).
   If you have alot of notes, this can be along procedure. Long running macros
worry me because I don't know if things are proceeding normally. Therefore, I
make a counter for myself (I will use = for the tilde here):
at the beginning of the macro   : {ASSIGN}0=1=
after the first execution       : {PROMPT}{VAR0} operations performed=
use message positioning to put
the prompt anywhere you want it
otherwise it will be on the message line
immediately after increase value: {ASSIGN}0={VAR0}+1=
go back to the beginning of the loop
   If you use {ON NOT FOUND} command at the beginning, the macro can
terminate however you like. You can also use the increasing value of
the {ASSIGN} command to number the notes in doc 2. So...
   If someone wants the whole process written out, you can ask, but I
will not be on line until after the new year.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:17:07 EST
From: <RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.wpcorp-l
Subject: Re: Need WP BBS Phone Number

In article <92357.233759RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>, <RFM@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>... I need to get in contact to download a
>printer driver for Epson AP3250 ....
>Would apreciate someone posting BBS phone number, also
>comm settings, download protocol.
>Thanks, BobM
I called the WP after-hours phone number (801-222-9010) & got BBS
phone number & spec: 801-225-4414; 8N1, ZMODEM works fine.

I downloaded the Epson printer driver in a self-extracting mode, so
I have it, but now am not sure what to do next. I *dimly* recall
trying this once before a couple of years ago & had problems, but
don't remember details. As I do rmember, the WP51 INSTALL program
looks for printer drivers on a floppy, not on hard drive.
Anybody out there have any suggestions on how to make INSTALL recognize
a printer driver in WP51 subdirectory?

Thanks & Happy Holidays!

Bob Munzenrider, PSU-Harrisburg
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From: hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell)
Subject: macros
Organization: National University of Singapore
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 13:39:57 GMT


A short snappy question:	
	Is there any way of eliminating that irritating question about the
description of the macro you are about to set up once you have named it?
 I never use the damn thing and I often forget it's there which means that
I type the macro into the description, and then I lose my temper and hit
the keys too hard and tehn I get lines of xxs of 55s or whatever and  . .	
OK it wasn't a short snappy question, and I HOPE there isn't a short
snappy answer, but I rather fear . .  .

Happy Christmas, New Year, Saturnalia, Hanukah, rebirth of the unbeaten sun

Richard Pennell, History NUS
From: cfdwe@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dave Ebdon)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.wpcorp-l
Subject: Printer Drivers for WP 5.0 via FTP?
Date: 21 Dec 92 17:49:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Educational Computing Network

A friend of mine has had his hard drive crash.  He has reverted to WP
5.0 for the time being since it will work on a dual floppy system.  His
problem is that he needs a 5.0 printer driver for his current printer.
Is there an FTP site where he can find 5.0 printer drivers?
I am sure this must be a FAQ.  Sorry.  Thanks for any help.
From: CXIR@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXIR)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.wpcorp-l
Subject: font editing
Date: 2 Jan 93 19:00:48 GMT
Organization: McGill University

Does anyone know the address and phone number of a company called
"Altsys" which produces a programme for editing font characters for
special languages, one can use in conjunction with Wordperfect. ?
Please post to me at my email address: CXIR@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
Thanks, Ian Ritchie.
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 12:22:28 EST
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From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: File translation

Try word for word i think if i remember properly that it can do
chiwriter.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:54:12 MEZ
From:         Ralf Kaminski <UPK002@DBNRHRZ1.BITNET>
Comments: To: c+health@iubvm.BITNET, health-l@irlearn.BITNET,
          healthco@rpiecs.BITNET, medforum@arizvm1.BITNET, medstu-l@unmvm.BITNET

We are a group of three fifth year medical students from the University of
Aachen, Germany. Last summer we passed our first examination. We are very
interested in foreign systems of health care and therefore we are applying
for a practical training period (free of charge) in February and March 1993.
We have already done several months of similar clinical attachments in
Germany. If it is possible to begin a practical training period with you
please send the necessary information for application.

Thank you!

Erik Skobel,
Ralf Kaminski,
Thorsten Reffelmann

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Date:         Sun, 3 Jan 1993 14:32:52 EST
Reply-To:     Tim Freeman <tsf@CS.CMU.EDU>
From:         Timothy_Freeman@U.ERGO.CS.CMU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Extra Low Magnetic Fields
Comments: To: Health effects of computer use
          <C+HEALTH%IUBVM.BITNET@PSUVM.PSU.EDU>

"R. Allen Gardner" <gardner@EQUINOX.UNR.EDU> says:
>It is also clear from the reporting that representatives of industry and
>government rarely represent the interests of citizens.

Keep in mind that the reporters don't represent the interests of the
citizens either.  They have to write stories that sell magazines
without offending advertizers.  Their incentives tell them to say
something interesting whether or not it is accurate.

>Stiff new standards for power lines mandated in Swedent [sic] in fall 1992
>should make it clear that responsible governments outside of the US can
>find evidence in existing studies.

Non-sequitur.  From the new Swedish standards we know that the people
who influence Swedish politicians believe the fields are harmful.  We
don't know who those people are, or that they have rational grounds
for their beliefs.  For instance, they may have read Currents of Death
without reading any of the studies that CofD cites.

Has anyone read any primary literature that gives reason to believe
that ELF's are harmful to humans at a dose somewhere near what is
encountered in real life?  If so, I would really appreciate it if you
post:

   The citation for the study.
   The words "I read the study", or something synonymous.
   A brief summary of the results.  (Two lines would be sufficient.)

In particular, don't post citations for studies that you haven't read;
I already have a large collection of those.

Tim Freeman <tsf@cs.cmu.edu>    CompuServe ID 71045,2267 checked occasionally.
When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.
When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.
When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.
Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all.
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 21:57:00 +0000
From:         "R. Allen Gardner" <gardner@EQUINOX.UNR.EDU>
Subject:      Extra Low Magnetic Fields
Comments: To: c+health@iubvm.bitnet

The Dec 7  issue of New Yorker magazine has an article on the hazzards of
~60 cycle magnetic fields that should interest many members of this list.

It is also clear from the reporting that representatives of industry and
government rarely represent the interests of citizens.

Stiff new standards for power lines mandated in Swedent in fall 1992
should make it clear that responsible governments outside of the US can
find evidence in existing studies.

Allen Gardner
University of Nevada
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From: rbkc@cix.compulink.co.uk (Ian Pleasance)
Subject: VTAM Front End
Reply-To: rbkc@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:45:00 +0000

Does anyone have, or know of, the source code to a VTAM session front
end ? I am looking for something that will allow our users to get a
menu of applications when they turn their terminal on.

Thanks in advance, Ian

(I know that there are many commercial solutions, but we dont
 have the budget :-(
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 09:25:27 CST
From:         Bill Hunter <BHUNTER@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: VTAM Front End

On Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:53:19 -0600 <SOMITCW@VCCSCENT> said:
> On Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:45:00 GMT, rbkc@CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK wrote:
>>Does anyone have, or know of, the source code to a VTAM session front
>>end ? I am looking for something that will allow our users to get a
>>menu of applications when they turn their terminal on.
>
>    We have one called NETSOL that came from the CBT tape, have run
> it for several years with our mods in MVS.  It also will run in VM.
> Now the problems:     (...) stuff deleted
>

Regarding "NETSOL", is there any reason why this guy should not be
put on a LISTSERV somewhere?  I have a working version of guy I use
on VM/XA (VTAM V3.3 and V3.4), VM/ESA (VM/VTAM V3.4, the 31 bit guy)
and MVS/ESA that I would be happy to put on LISTSERV@UA1VM.

The question "Is there a PD VTAM session front end ...?" is asked so
frequently that it should be in a FAQ file somewhere...

Bill Hunter, The U. of Alabama
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:15:52 CST
From:         Bill Harvey <HARVEY@WUVMD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: VTAM Front End

On Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:45:00 GMT, Ian Pleasance <rbkc@CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK>
said:
>Does anyone have, or know of, the source code to a VTAM session front
>end ? I am looking for something that will allow our users to get a
>menu of applications when they turn their terminal on.

We do something like that with USSMSG 10 (That's the startup screen that
VTAM presents to the terminal.  Or something like that.).  It puts up a
screen that looks like a menu.  Something like:

             A) Appl 1
             B) Appl 2
             etc...

Then we define USSCMDs A, B, etc so that they LOGON to that application
when they enter the relevant command.  Pretty primitive.  But, you get
what you pay for.

If it were important enough to someone, I guess I could come up with
an example.        :-)

Bill
>Thanks in advance, Ian
>(I know that there are many commercial solutions, but we dont
> have the budget :-(
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Date:         Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:53:19 -0600
From:         SOMITCW@VCCSCENT.BITNET
Subject:      VTAM Front End

 On Mon, 21 Dec 1992 09:45:00 GMT, rbkc@CIX.COMPULINK.CO.UK wrote:
>Does anyone have, or know of, the source code to a VTAM session front
>end ? I am looking for something that will allow our users to get a
>menu of applications when they turn their terminal on.

    We have one called NETSOL that came from the CBT tape, have run
 it for several years with our mods in MVS.  It also will run in VM.
 Now the problems:

    1. We don't use it, we switched to a commercial multi-session
 package.

    2. It's large ( almost 10,000 lines ).  If you need a smaller one
 and less complicated one, contact CCJO@MCGILLVS for TCPHEAD.
 TCPHEAD was written to be an MVS TCP/IP front-end but can be adapted.

    3. I'm on vacation and cannot send you NETSOL this year.

    4. We don't have good access to the INTERNET yet so I would
 have to send the source in a note or notes.  If you have a BITNET
 address, that would make life easier for me.
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:49:00 MDT
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From:         ADAVIS@CUDENVER.BITNET
Subject:      TQM List

Could someone remind me how to subscribe to the list dealing with
Total Quality Management in higher education?

Alan Davis
University of Colorado at Denver
ADAVIS@CUDNVR.DENVER.COLORADO.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:06:00 EST
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From:         DKELLEY@SUNRISE.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Assessment in Higher Ed

Barbara:  From what I can gather the mandate was an internal order from
the chancellor.  The purpose is supposed to be the improvement of
undergraduate teaching and learning.  The audience is the State since an annual
report must be forwarded to SUNY.    The college, faculty and administrattion
are supposed to beneift
from the process.  From my experiences though, the
faculty has not bought in to the process.  One reason is simply that the
assessment project has been an added responsibility with no added $.  The
colleges' responses have been what I would call "strategic compliance>"
Dan Kelley
Onondaga Community College
Syracuse, N.Y. 13090
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 10:29:31 EST
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From:         Moe Methot <AP201027@BROWNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Faculty Position Posting

Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 92 09:47:09 EST
From:         Moe Methot <AP201027@BROWNVM>
Subject:      Faculty Position Announcement
To:           music-research@prg.oxford.ac.uk
========================================================================
The Department of Music at Brown University announces a tenure-track position a
t the level of assistant professor.  The term of appointment begins in July 199
3.  We seek a composer or theorist with expertise in computer music.  Qualified
 candidates should hold the PhD and be prepared to teach a broad range of cours
es for both majors and non-majors in our theory-composition program, including
courses in computer music applications.  Preferences will be given to candidate
s who will contribute to our graduate programs as well.  The deadline for submi
ssion of applications and all supporting materials is February 1, 1993.  Applic
ants should send a letter describing their experience and interests together wi
th a curriculum vitae, graduate school transcripts, three letters of recommenda
tion, and up to three examples of compositions and/or scholarly research.  Each
 recorded example should be submitted on a seperate cassette tape.  Although al
l possible care will be taken in handling submitted materials, we cannot be res
ponsible for loss or damage to these items.  Send applications to:  Gerald M.
Shapiro, Search Committee Chair, Department of Music-Brown University, One Youn
g Orchard Avenue, Providence, RI 02912-1924
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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:04:24 MST
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From:         Gene Glass <ATGVG@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: TQM List

On Wed, 23 Dec 1992 12:49:00 MDT <ADAVIS@CUDENVER> said:
>Could someone remind me how to subscribe to the list dealing with
>Total Quality Management in higher education?
>Alan Davis

   Permit me to make this reply to Alan public since others may have similar
 questions. The TQM-L list resides at the Univ of Kansas. So you can send an
 email letter to LISTSERV@UKANVM and make the sole contents of the letter
 the single line    SUB TQM-L <your name>  , e.g., SUB TQM-L Alan Davis.

   There are currently a few thousand LISTs operating on the BITNET system
 throughout the world. You needn't be in the BITNET system to subscribe,
 though LISTSERVs themselves only run at BITNET nodes. To get a listing
 of all of these Lists, you can send a leter to any node that runs the
 BITNET program (your own, perhaps, or ASUACAD.BITNET) and insert the
 sinlge line LIST GLOBAL
   You'll get the whole list of lists within minutes. Explore it for some
 wondrous treasures. I recently took a trip to California on business and
 had an extra day for bird watching. I wrote to the BIRDCHAT list, asking
 for suggestions on where to look and I got a marvelous reply the same day
 that led me to an ecological reserve--little known and hard to find--
 that had soem of the best birding I had ever seen. If BIRDCHAT is too
 exciting for you, try any of the other three thousand lists :-)

_______________________________________________________________________

GENE V GLASS                                    ATGVG AT ASUACAD.BITNET
COLLEGE OF EDUCATION                            ATGVG AT ASUACVAX.BITNET
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY                        INTERNET ADDRESS:
Tempe, AZ 85287-2411                            ATGVG@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
602-965-2692
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:05:14 MST
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From:         Gene Glass <ATGVG@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Call for Papers

      CALL FOR PAPERS FOR A NEW ELECTRONIC JOURNAL

     A few colleagues and I are launching an electronic journal,
which will be called the EDUCATION POLICY ANALYSIS ARCHIVES. It
will be a peer-reviewed journal of papers on all topics connected
with education policy. We wish to invite submissions to be
considered for publication.

     Papers will be published via a LISTSERV to which any person
can subscribe. It will be announced soon. The existing LISTSERV
known as EDPOLYAN which resides at ASUACAD.BITNET will serve as a
companion list for discussion.

     If you or a colleague has a paper that might fit this new
venture, please send a copy to me, Gene Glass, at
ATGVG@ASUACAD.BITNET. Potential contributions should be between 500
and 1,500 lines of text and should follow style guidelines in the
American Psychological Association Publication Manual. Electronic
text should not be greater than 65 characters in width and should,
of course, be in ASCII or TEXT format. Tables should be used
sparingly, and figures should be avoided.

_______________________________________________________________________

GENE V GLASS                                    ATGVG AT ASUACAD.BITNET
COLLEGE OF EDUCATION                            ATGVG AT ASUACVAX.BITNET
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY                        INTERNET ADDRESS:
Tempe, AZ 85287-2411                            ATGVG@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
602-965-2692
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Date:         Sat, 2 Jan 1993 20:04:57 PST
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From:         Lucy Bernholz <lucy.bernholz@STANFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Pay for Performance

REPLY TO 12/23/92 09:14 FROM EDPOLYAN@ASUACAD.BITNET "Professionals and
Students Discussing Education Policy Analysis": Pay for Performance

remove kp.pew@stanford

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Date:         Tue, 29 Dec 1992 10:25:21 MST
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From:         Gene Glass <ATGVG@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Job Opening

    The Univ of Utah is seeking to hire "a highly talented person to fill
 a tenure-track position in the areas of qualitative research methods, organ-
 izational studies, leadership theory or related areas at the assistant
 or associate rank, but experience as a published scholar, dissertation
 advisor and instructor is preferred."

    For information, write to
                 Dr. David J. Sperry
                 339 Milton Bennion Hall
                 Univ of Utah
                 Salt Lake City, Utah  84112
                  801-581-6627

_______________________________________________________________________

GENE V GLASS                                    ATGVG AT ASUACAD.BITNET
COLLEGE OF EDUCATION                            ATGVG AT ASUACVAX.BITNET
ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY                        INTERNET ADDRESS:
Tempe, AZ 85287-2411                            ATGVG@ASUVM.INRE.ASU.EDU
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:55:00 EST
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From:         DKELLEY@SUNRISE.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Assessment in Higher Ed

I agree with Alan Davis that we need to use what we already have for
assessment in higher ed., rather than add an evaluation that might "drive"
the curriculum.  In response to assessment some institutions have added
exit exams or capstone courses.  While there is some merit to each of
these, there are also problems associated with them.  In a communitycollege
many of our programs are already heavily burdened with required courses that
are taken at the expense of electives.  A capstone course would have to be
added at the expense of another course most likely an elective.  Many of our
students complain about the narrowing of the curriculum.  Exit exams are
suggested by outside agencies.  I worry how these exams would affect our
mission.
Michael Knight of Kean College, N.J. sugggests a departmental response to
assessment.  At Kean, each program develops a profile of what a graduate of
the program should look like.  When a student hands in work,  an exam or a
paper, the instructor can make a copy and send it to the department
assessment committee, without name, to be held up against the graduate profile.

When multiple examples are used the program can construct a scattergram to
see how their students are doig.  The program can use this information to make
needed changes.
This seems to be a more useful and appropriate form of assessment.  Does anyone
know of other assessment plans?

Dan Kelley
Onondaga Community College
Syracuse, N.Y. 13090
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