From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: About Dating Outside One's Group....
Organization: AT&T
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Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:42:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.104358.12959@wetware.com> drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux) writes:
>jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>] In article <lk168jINN42f@news.bbn.com> pdsmith@bbn.com (Peter D. Smith) writes:
>] >
>] >Shelley -- keep up the search!  Compromise is possible on so many things,
>] >but not on (deeply felt) religious principles.  Dating someone outside of
>] >one's faith goes well for a while, but how can you respect someone whose
>] >entire religious beeing is based on error?
>] 
>] Which pretty well encapsulates anyone with religious beliefs.
>
>James,
>
>prudence dictates that you back off on this one.
 
Full speed ahead. Prepare for ramming speed. Damn the torpedoes. Rig for
depth charges.
 
>
>I will skip past my usual posting method and point
>out that there is a lot of unintended irony in your
>kivetch about 'religion.' You might take the time to
>pause and check that you have not gored any of your
>own sacred cows.
 
As a full fledged member in bad standing of the "Once an altar boy always an
altar boy" yachting club I must say A gored cow(and many altar boys) is a happy
cow.
 
>
>When it comes to Core Values, it is prudent NOT to
>go wandering a field in pursuit of 'romance.'
 
I must say ol chum. I don't have a problem with an orthodox jew looking for
an orthodox jew for a relationship. In fact I went out with a jewish lass
for 4 years. Visited her this summer. She called this xmas. She requested
a child. This offspring thing is getting out of hand.
Course she wasn't an "Orthodox" jew.
 
>
>That someone else may have come to a position that they
>hold a set of core values very distinct from your own
>is no reason to go deriding them for advancing that
>they have those core values, and that they are looking
>for those core values in someone they wish to be most
>deeply and intimately involved with.
>
 
Actually my post was in response to Peters line:
>] >  Dating someone outside of
>] >one's faith goes well for a while, but how can you respect someone whose
>] >entire religious beeing is based on error?
>] 
 
>I may chide my lady friend from time to time, in private
>and on the net, about her failure to understand some
>specific point from my "well just EVERYONE knows" list
>of details. But I would feel safe to say, that when we
>get down to real core values, rather than implementation
>specific details, we do NOT compromise. [1]
 
I'm with ya.
 
>
>May you be so fortunate, that you are able to come to
>understand YOUR OWN core values, as well as to be able
>to share them with someone special in your life.
>
>ciao
 
Well I like to think I have a lot of people that are special to me.
 
Core values are rather simple:
Treat others as you would like to be treated.
Have fun or leave.
Attack the pompous and feel free to feel superior to them.
An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth.
Give with no strings attached.
Work to live not live to work.
Defend/support your friends.
Screw your enemies.
Skepticism is not a bad thing.
Have disdain for people who feel the need to inflict their morality upon
my life and dream of shoving my morality down their's.
I may be shallow but if I don't love myself who else will.
And the big one---> Count on yourself.
Etc, etc.

>drieux
>
>[1] I will leave to my lady friend her 'bragging rights' as
>to why I consider her within my core value group. Suffice it[
>to say that when we all went off to her mother's birthday
>party, and her brother showed up in Black BSU's with
>the sniper patch on the shoulder.... I knew I was home.

They do sound special.
 
 
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