From: camh@ed.ecn.purdue.edu (Hasan Cam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Frequently Asked Questions
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:55:28 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Jul22.140034.11278@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, ahmet@eecg.toronto.edu (Ahmet Parlakbilek) writes:
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> 12) Is there any electronic mail list for discussions related to Turkish
> people/culture etc.?
> 
> Yes, there are plenty. One that's very famous is TEL, Turkish Electronic
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> List. The language used in communication is mostly Turkish and there is
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I believe that the net TSAA-L is at least as famous as TEL, if not
more famous. Why?!!! Don't you remember that some subcribers of ICTS-L
(the old name of TSAA-L) have been advertised(!) in daily newspapers
such as Cumhuriyet(!) 2 years ago?  Don't you remember that a
congressman from SHP asked the Ministry of  Education (or government)
what the subscribers of ICTS-L had done?

> no restriction about the topics discussed. To subscribe, one should send
> a mail with the body "sub tel your_name your_family_name" to 
> tel@uscvm.bitnet. Other lists can be summarized (not complete) as follows:
> 
> list name   topics discussed    mail address          command for subscription
> ---------   -----------------   ----------------      ------------------------
> tel         everything          listserv@uscvm.bitnet  sub tel name last_name
> ptt-l       everything-u      listserv@liverpool.ac.uk sun ptt-l name last_name
> trknws-l    news                listserv@uscvm.bitnet  sub trknws-l name l_name
> yunus       turkish tex users   listserv@trmetu.bitnet sub yunus name last_name
> tsaa-l      religion, everyth. listserv@purccvm.bitnet sub tsaa-l name l_name
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is a BIASED description for TSAA-L. Although many of
the subscribers of TSAA-L do discuss Islamic religion, it
doesn't give right anybody to say that the net has dedicated
particularly to the religious topics. The bottomline is that
any subscriber of TSAA-L can post any message on it.

Hasan Cam
List owner of TSAA-L

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TSAA-L stands for Turkish Students Assistance Association List
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   To join in the TSAA-L send an E-mail message to:

         LISTSERV@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU    (or LISTSERV@PURCCVM.BITNET)

   with this line in the message body:

                        SUB TSAA-L your name

   Note that "your name" means your proper name with two words and 
not your userid.  LISTSERV@VM.CC.PURDUE.EDU will extract your userid 
from the message header.

   If you are unfamiliar with lists and LISTSERV send the following to
   receive an index of help information:

                        INDEX HELPINFO

   You may cancel your subscription to TSAA-L at any time by sending:

                        SIGNOFF TSAA-L

   Note that commands are sent to LISTSERV and not TSAA-L.  If you
   send them to the list you will have the pleasure of knowing everyone
   subscribed to the net is reading them.

   Owner is:     camh@ecn.purdue.edu 


Hasan Cam
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                   GENEL ACIKLAMALAR


  TSAA-L'ye "uyelik" ve "uyelikten cikmak" herkese aciktir.
Yani, herhangi bir sahis istedigi zaman uye olabilir ve uyelikten
cikabilir. Uye olan sahis istedigi mesaji tsaa-l'ye gonderebilir.
TSAA-L'in editoru yoktur. Dolayisiyla, tsaa-l'ye gonderilen mesaj 
sadece ve sadece bu mesaji gonderen sahsin gorusunu yansitmaktadir.

   Bazen mesajlarin dagitim sebekesindeki ve/veya bazi uyelerin kendi 
sistemlerindeki arizalarindan dolayi mesajlar bana geri donmektedir. 
Bu hata mesajlarinin olusma sebebinin uyenin kendi hatasi oldugunu tesbit 
ettigimde (yani gateway veya uyenin bulundugu sistemin hatasi degilse), 
LISTSERV'deki trafigi azaltmak ve benim mailbox'in dolmasini onlemek 
gayesiyle hata masajina sebeb olan uyeyi gecici olarak  tsaa-l'den 
cikariyorum. Benim tarafimdan tsaa-l'den  cikarildiginizi gosteren   
bir mesaji LISTSERV'den aldiginiz takdirde, lutfen tsaa'ye tekrar uye 
olunuz. (Eger hata mesajlarina kendiniz sebeb olmussaniz, lutfen bu 
hatayi giderecek tedbirleri bir an once aliniz.)

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1)  TSAA-L'e uye olabilmek icin  LISTSERV'in asagidaki iki adresinden 
    birisine

      i)   listserv@purccvm.bitnet
      ii)  listserv@vm.cc.purdue.edu

    su komutu gonderiniz:

        sub tsaa-l <adiniz soyadiniz>

   <adiniz soyadiniz> 'in oldugu yere kendi isim ve soyadinizi 
   veya isim ve soyadi olarak kullanmak istediginiz en az 
   iki tane kelime yaziniz.


2)  TSAA-L'in uyeliginden cikmak istediginizde, LISTSERV'in yukaridaki iki
    adresinden birisine asagidaki komutu gonderiniz:

       signoff tsaa-l

3) Eger hem tsaa'ye uye olarak devam etmek hem de
   tsaa-l'nin listserv'inin size herhangi bir mesaj gondermesini
   istemiyorsaniz (mesela, bir yere tatile gittigizde mailbox'iniza
   herhangi bir mesajin gelmemesinin cesitli faydalari olabilir),
   yukaridaki listserv adreslerinden birisine asagidaki komutu 
   gonderiniz:

      set tsaa-l nomail

   Tekrar tsaa-l'den mail alabilmek icin yukaridaki listserv 
   adreslerinden birisine asagidaki komutu gonderiniz:

      set tsaa-l mail


4) Eger TSAA'ye uye oldugunuzun baska birisi tarafindan bilinmesini
   istemiyorsaniz, yukaridaki listserv adreslerinden birisine
   asagidaki komutu gonderiniz.


      set  tsaa-l conceal


5) Eger TSAA  uyelerinin isim ve adres listesini elde etmek istiyorsaniz,
   yukaridaki listserv adreslerinden birisine  asagidaki komutu
   gonderiniz. (Bu isim ve adres listesini alabilmek icin TSAA'ye uye
   olmaniz gerekmiyor).

      rev tsaa-l


6)  TSAA-L'ye yazi  gonderebilmek  icin asagidaki iki adresten 
    birisini kullaniniz.

     i)  tsaa-l@purccvm.bitnet
     ii) tsaa-l@vm.cc.purdue.edu

    
7)  TSAA-L'ye yazi gonderirken kullandiginiz sistemin
   adresi tsaa'ye uye oldugunuz adres ile ayni olmalidir. Aksi
   takdirde, LISTSERV sizi tsaa-l uyesi olarak gormeyecek
   ve mesajinizi reddecektir.


    TSAA ile ilgili karsilastiginiz herhangi bir zorlugu
bana bildirmenizden memnunluk duyacagimi ve elimden gelen yardimi
gostermeye hazir oldugumu vurgulamak istiyorum.


Saygi ve sevgilerimle
Hasan Cam
(List owner of TSAA)
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