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From: lhoei@fwi.uva.nl (Liang Hwie Oei (I90))
Subject: Buku lagu-lagu Indonesia kecil
Followup-To: idem dito
Summary: A small Indonesian songbook
Keywords: songs
	      
	Si dia      : (genit) ... eh, aku rasanya kita              
				      sudah bertemu?
	      
	Sahaya      : (kaku)  ... ini pertama kali 
				      kita bertemu.
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Distribution: alt.culture.indonesia
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:43:54 GMT
Expires: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 23:00:00 GMT

	Si dia      : Kalau begitu ...apakah namamu Doc?

	Sahaya      : (marah) ... Kok bisa namaku Doc.
				      Namaku KO. Kodok! 

		      (merah) ... hai cium dong, 
				      hingga aku jadi pangeran.


	========================================================

		    HAI CIUM DONG



	Cowok:      Hai cium dong

	Cewek:            Aku tak mau

	Cowok:      Hai peluk dong

	Cewek:            Aku tak mau

	Cowok:      Pacaran yang lama 
		    Mau dicium
		    E tidak mau

	Cewek:            Kalau sudah dicium
			  Tidak jadi
			  Bagaimana

	Cowok:      Aku bersumpah
		    Ooooooooooooh 
		    Aku bersumpah

		    Tidak akan aku sakiti hatimu
		    Hanya kau pilihan cinta
		    Sampai ku mati

	Cewek:            Sudah biasa 
			  Ooooooooooh
			  Sudah biasa
			  
			  Kata indah tersusun rapih
			  Tapi nanti sudah temu
			  Aku kau tinggal pergi
			  
	===================================================

	      gimmy a kiss


	guy:  gimmy a kiss
	gal:  don't wanna
	guy:  gimmy a hug
	gal:  don't wanna

	guy:  being steady for so long
	      want to kiss you
	      you refuse?

	gal:  if your kisses
	      don't work out
	      then what?

	guy:  i swear o i swear
	      i won't ever hurt you
	      you're the one i've chosen
	      for my love untill i die

	gal:  always the same o always the same
	      neatly arranged words will
	      leave me alone after we have truly met


	original lyrics taken from:

	STREET MUSIC OF JAVA * R.D.1 * BOX 190 * LASHER
	ROAD * TIVOLI * NY * 12583 * USA (compact disc)
From: g9k079@cfi.waseda.ac.jp ("Pitoyo HARTONO")
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: RE:Himbauan buat Rekan rekan
Date: 16 Nov 92 01:11:22 GMT
Organization: Centre for Informatics, WASEDA University
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: aqua21.cfi.waseda.ac.jp

In article <1992Nov14.192726.44789@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> andri@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Selamat Datang ke Dunia Sastera Indonesia.
>Pramudya Ananta Toer boleh jadi penulis Indonesia yang terbaik saat
>ini.
>Sayang buku buku karangannya lebih mudah dijumpai disini ketimbang di
>Indonesia.
>Kalau saya tak salah ada enam buku yang ditulisnya setelah bebas dari
>TP Pulau BURU. Seluruhnya sudah diterbitkan dalam Bahasa
>Inggeris(Penguin). Karya karyanya sebelum ditahan tidak ISTIMEWA. Saya
>sudah baca "Diah : SiManis Bergigi Emas". Biasa saja.
>

Saya setuju dengan anda, rasanya Pramudya adalah penulis Indonesia yang terbaik saat ini.Saya sudah baca 'Bumi Manusia' dalam bahasa Jepang.Saya nggak ngerti bagian mana dari buku itu yang menyebabkannya dilarang beredar.'Rumah Kaca' & 'Anak Semua Bangsa' juga sudah beredar dalam bahasa Jepang.
Senang sekali kalau ternyata karyanya juga sudah diterjemahkan dalam bahasa Inggris, mungkin orang - orang asing lebih bisa menghargai karya - karyanya daripadaorang Indonesia sendiri.

-- 
			Pitoyo HARTONO
			g9k079@cfi.waseda.ac.jp
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From: donsw@cs.cornell.edu (Donald Wihardja)
Subject: Re: Bahasa Indonesia yang baik dan benar ?
Keywords: bahasa indonesia
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:11:14 GMT


>Rasanya sih interpreter tidak bisa disebut "perakit", sebab walaupun fungsi-
>nya adalah 'merubah' suatu HLL, proses merubahnya tidak dilakukan sekaligus
>seperti compiler maupun assembler, melainkan per baris dan kemudian langsung
>dijalankan (di-execute).

How about "penterjemah"? 

Donald
-- 
CS Department, Cornell University
Ithaca, New York.
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:32:36 -0500 
From: Carlos Bispo <cb8t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Post not in English/Indonesian
	<1992Nov15.021205.14098@oz.plymouth.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.alt.culture.indonesia: 15-Nov-92 Re: Post not in
English/Ind.. Michael Le Houllier@oz.p (2529)

> In article <gf0yTvK00iV402r=YM@andrew.cmu.edu> Carlos Bispo
> <cb8t+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> ...(text delected)
> >I fully agree with you that the languages used in a.c.i. should be
> >restricted to English and Indonesian. I think that Mr. Borbinha's
> >reaction has to do however with the fact that some Indonesians have been
> >using their own language just to say whatever they want about Portuguese
> >which is also not polite from my point of view.
> >
> >But going back to the languages to be used, since East Timor is
> >considered by most of the Indonesians on this net as a part of mother
> >land and since in East Timor the used language is Portuguese it does not
> >seem so inapropriate to use a "local dialect" don't you think so? :-)

> Indonesian is the national language, but it bears little resemblance
> to the varied other languages in the country.  The reason a single
> language was adopted for the whole country was to facilitate
> communication and nationhood.  I don't feel, for example, that
> Javanese should be used because, although it is the native language of
> more Indonesians that any other, many Indonesians don't understand it.
> For the same reason, Portuguese shouldn't be used just because it is a
> language spoken in Timor.  Bahasa Indonesia is the language of
> Indonesia, not Portuguese, not even Javanese.
> >


> >JUST TRYING TO GIVE SOME FRESH AIR TO THIS GROUP WHERE THE SENSE OF
> >HUMOUR HAS BEEN ABSENT ALMOST SINCE IT STARTED.
> >
> >Carlos
> >
> God bless,

I'm fully aware of the cultural variety in Indonesia and the reasons to
use a "lingua franca".
You seem to have some difficulty in interpreting an ironic statement.

Carlos
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From: ramid@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rudy Amid)
Subject: Re: Indonesian pop music
Keywords: Indonesian pop
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Distribution: alt
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 04:37:44 GMT

6500hiro@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Hiroaki Kitano) writes:

>I am an Indonesian music fan, especially pop music. In Japan, there has
>been a growing interest in Indonesian music, like Kroncong, 
>Dang-dut, Pop Indonesia, Pop Sunda, etc. Most famous singers in Japan
>are; Hetty Koes Endang, Elvi Sukaesih, Roma Irama, Itje Trisnawati,
      ^^^^^                             ^^^^
      Tatiek                            Rhoma
>Detty Kurnia (a Pop Sunda singer).
[...]

   Dang-dut?? SPARE ME!!  That stuff, btw, is not original Indonesian.
It was imported from India.  I can recall when I was young in the 70's,
the TV kept broadcasting Indian movies.  If you've seen one, then you'll
know what I mean.

   The only original type of music from your list is probably Keroncong.
I'm not too thrilled with the music there though but I appreciate the
diversity.

>			Hiroaki Kitano    11/20/1992

--
!Rudy Amid              ///
a434amid@cdf.toronto.edu//
amid@r-node.gts.org   ///
Netrek/IRC: Radix  \\X//
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From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Subject: Re: Multiculture 
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:48:01 GMT


...
Rui:
> Sorry, but you missed the point! The problem is that LOCAL LANGUAGES ARE NOT
> TAUGHT. This, I believe (correct me, if I'm wrong), implies that local 
> culture is depreciated in favor of a "unite", but alien culture. 

Correction, local languages are taught in elementary and junior high school.
There, satisfied ?

|> Yes, but not all (most) parts of the world. Here in Canada (or even in the 
|> US if you're familiar with that country) there's people from different culture. 
|> (You name it, they got it). ...
|> Ever heard of Quebec ?  (If you ask most Quebecois, they
|> preffer to separate from Canada).

> Excellent example for East Timor!

> Yes, they have a different culture from the anglo-saxons. 
> England recognized that,

What's England got to do with this ?

> and allowed them to have a say in their local affairs.They use french in their
> schools. Their culture (obviously related to France) has been respected and 
> there
> has been no massacres to force the integration of Quebec inside the Canadian
> federation!

Yet, some people want to separate from Canada, and yet no referendum is called.
The tention is high in some areas.

> If the quebecois vote for independence I believe no-one will stop them. 

Well, not really. Some people still want to be part of Canada.
The Government is trying very hard to keep the country united.
Oh, btw, the Natives have decided to make their own self government,
yet the Canadian Government still is not recognizing them.
(You said no-one will stop them ? :-)

> Because
> THEY ARE FREE TO STAY INSIDE OR BECOME INDEPENDENT, Human Rights are several
> orders of magnitude better there compared to East Timor under the indonesian
> occupation. And, despite the troubles you refer, Canada has remained united
> without the need of bloodshed.

Ah, you haven't heard of the problem with the Native people.
There was a clash between the Natives and people in Quebec, it was
not pretty. Yet, human rights activists said nothing.

> The relationship between the Quebec and the other parts of Canada (mainly the
> anglo-saxons regions) is many times smoother than the relationship between 
> ET and Indonesia. 

Heh heh heh, I guess you don't know that some of them hate each other guts.
In some area in Quebec, signs must be in French only. You can't put signs
in English. Deal with that ...

> If Indonesia builds a similar agreement to East Timor she might get
> the same results there!

Well, Quebec is just one province, similar to the other provinces.
It's exactly like East Timor, just one province of Indonesia.

One point we are all agree, that bloodshed must be avoided. Right ?

regards,
-- budi
-- 
Budi Rahardjo <Budi_Rahardjo@UManitoba.Ca>
Unix Support - Computer Services - University of Manitoba
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia,soc.culture.portuguese
From: J4S0000 <J4S0@UNB.CA>
Subject: Re: about ET: to indonesians (others also welcome)
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:02:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.104921.2537@inesc.pt> rgc@eagle.inesc.pt (Rui Gustavo Crespo) writes:

>If that's the case, Indonesia will have no problems to integrate ET smoothly.
>If not (and I suspect so, concerning what the indonesian army has done in the
>last 17 years), only by military occupation and massacres Indonesia will
>integrate ET. That also means the integration will only be smooth after killing
>every timeorease.
>
>---------------------
>All the best...
>
>---Crespo
                                                                             ||
               Ummm.., ohhh, how about an idea that the integration          ||
               might become even smoother if all the Portugees' are     ugal ||
               massacred as well? Ups.. , no I am joking, it would           ||
               turn out to make the rest of the world to stand against  =======
               Indonesia.

               Wisnu Hendradjit

>.

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From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Subject: Re: Bahasa Indonesia yang baik dan benar ?
Keywords: bahasa indonesia
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:44:21 GMT

okidz@ccs.northeastern.edu (Oki D Zakaria) writes:

>In article <Bxw4y2.G0M@ccu.umanitoba.ca> rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo) writes:
>>
>>Mas Bambang punya istilah yang saya rasa lebih tepat : 
>>compile = rakit  
>>meng"compile" program = merakit program
>>compilation = (proses) perakitan  
>>

>Bagaimana dengan assembler? 

Bagaimana kalau perakit bahasa Assembly ?

>Assembly language?

Kalau ini mestinya menjadi bahasa Assembly, karena Assembly merupakan 
nama bahasa. Sama halnya dengan bahasa BASIC, FORTRAN, LISP, 
dll (dan lain lain).

>Kalau di automotif, car assembling biasanya disebut perakitan kendaraan
>bermotor.

Betul.

-- budi
-- 
Budi Rahardjo <Budi_Rahardjo@UManitoba.Ca>
Unix Support - Computer Services - University of Manitoba
From: p91083sw@tom.ai.kyutech.ac.jp (Wahyo Sindhu)
Subject: Re: nyari  temen ilang
Organization: Kyushu Institute of Technology, Iizuka, JAPAN.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 08:24:07 GMT


Sdr Nur yg anda cari apakah berasal dr madura?
Beliau sekarang melanjutkan di Kyushu University, di Fukuoka.
maaf, saya nggak tahu email addressnya.
Bila ada pesan, mungkin saya bisa membantu.


sekian, 
sindhu(p91083sw@post.isci.kyutech.ac.jp)
ph 0948-28-8568
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: web@hbar.rice.edu (Karen E. Aiani)
Subject: Re: <croons>
Reply-To: web@hbar.rice.edu (Karen E. Aiani)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:55:03 GMT

In article <1ea6roINNab@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, sgj@po.CWRU.Edu (Sri G.
Junus) writes:
|> 
|> burung kakatuaaaa...
|> hinggap di jendelaaa...
|> nenek sudah tuaaa...
|> giginya tinggal duaaa....
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> Sometimes songs like "Burung Kakaktua," "Bintang Kejora," "Bintang Kecil,"
                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Wow! What great memories this brings back for me!!
This was one of the very first things I learned to say(sing)
in Indonesian when I was an exchange student there.
I really miss it...

Can't wait to go back sometime soon!

Karen  Aiani Stevens



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From: okidz@ccs.northeastern.edu (Oki D Zakaria)
Subject: Re: Bahasa Indonesia yang baik dan benar ?
Keywords: bahasa indonesia
Organization: Northeastern University, CCS Dept.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:13:02 GMT

In article <Bxz7E0.K5r@knot.ccs.queensu.ca> prastowo@qucis.queensu.ca (Bambang Nurcahyo Prastowo) writes:
>
>Tidak! "Interpreter" langsung melaksanakan program. Saya sudah pernah
>baca kalimat "Dia bekerja sebagai interpreter di Kedutaan Perancis".
>Karena ucapan dan tulisan sudah memenuhi kaidah, kita bisa langsung
>pakai saja.
>
Kalau begitu sih boleh saja. Saya pikir interpreter tak sulit diucapkan
oleh lidah Indonesia.

>Salam, Bambang

Salam kembali,
Okidz



Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
From: okidz@ccs.northeastern.edu (Oki D Zakaria)
Subject: Re: Majulah Timor-Timur (a little question)
Organization: Northeastern University, CCS Dept.
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:51:54 GMT


	An East Timor lawmaker, Salvador Ximenes Soares, said the arrest
	of Gusmao Friday was a major blow to anti-integration East
	Timorese as well as to Fretilin supporters abroad.
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Is there any Portugal-based ones?


Oki
okidz@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu


Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:17:16 -0500 
From: Irianto Sukaton <is08+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Multiculture

Excerpts from netnews.alt.culture.indonesia: 16-Nov-92 Re: Multiculture
by Rui Gustavo Crespo@eagle 
> Similarity ends there!
> Unlike Quebec, there is an occupation army in East Timor! Human Rights
are not
> respected in East Timor. Those who advocate independence in East Timor are
> severely repressed (should I say killed?), unlike in Quebec. And I
have not hear
> d
> any massacres in Canada.
>  

What do the Indians say about this, or are you discounting them because
they're not CAUCASIAN?

Rouli

Rouli
is08@andrew.cmu.edu

Standard Discalimer: The views and opinions stated above are mine only
		     and do not reflect the views of CMU.
From: 2hujrabbi@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Top 10 signs noone likes you
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:51:16 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

	I know that this is not the right place to post this, but it's
just so funny that I would like to share them with you. I got this
from alt.fan.letterman. This is the top ten list from November 12. If
many of you in the States do not watch "Late Night with David
Letterman" you miss something big.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
                         TOP TEN SIGNS THAT NOONE LIKES YOU
   10. Every time someone gives you their phone number it begins
       "555..."
    9. No echo when you yell from edge of Grand Canyon
    8. Every New Year's Party you go to breaks up around 10:30
    7. When playing touch football, you always seem to be "going
       long."
    6. National Council of Churches agrees that God listens to all
       prayers except yours.
    5. Your parents introduce you as "an acquiantance."
    4. You missed easy grounder to lose 6th game of the 1986
       World Series
    3. Your name is Richard Burk, you're from Long Island and
       you're sitting in the studio audience right now
    2. M.C.I. operator laughs hysterically when you ask about
       the "Friends & Family Plan"
    1. Three words : Soup for One 

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>>   into an android body...I do not know if, having once been human,        <<
>>   a person could adapt.                                                   <<
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Young Skywalker

2hujrabbi@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu

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From: ozakaria@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (Oki Zakaria)
Subject: Re: Bahasa Indonesia yang baik dan benar ?
Keywords: bahasa indonesia
Organization: Northeastern University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:00:32 GMT

In article <BxxHx7.44w@knot.ccs.queensu.ca>, prastowo@qucis.queensu.ca (Bambang Nurcahyo Prastowo) writes:
> In article <Bxw5Fn.G6B@ccu.umanitoba.ca> rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo) writes:
> >Sebagai tambahan pekerjaan rumah :
> >
	[...]
> 
> >carriage return =
> Untuk ini harus mengarang sendiri berdasar pengertiannya atau bunyinya
> karena, lagi-lagi, tulisannya susah diindonesiakan. Bagaimana
> kalau "pulang" atau "riten"?
>
"Riten" mungkin bisa sebagai pengganti "return". 
 
	[...]

> >editor = 
> ini bunyi dan tulisan sudah enak... tatp saja editor
> kita sudah lama memakai "editor majalah" ... eh.. tapi ini
> orangnya ya? Bukan alatnya.
>
Saya tak melihat bedanya "-or" atau "-er" sebagai "alat" maupun "orang".
Sepertinya itu selalu sebagai "yang me..."

	[...]

> >hacker = pakar? setan?

Kalau pakar, rasanya kurang enak. Dalam pikiran saya, pakar itu ahli
dalam bidang yang lebih luas daripada hacker.

> setan komputer saya kira pas betul dengan computer hacker
>
Ini nampaknya lebih singkat.
  
> >home directory =
> Ini istilah khusus untuk sistem dos atau unix.
> Kita coba directory dulu.
> Dari artinya: directory = daftar isi. 
> Home directory = daftar isi utama.
>
Kalau melihat file-system-nya unix, rasanya "daftar isi utama" lebih
baik digunakan sebagai padanan "root directory", soalnya yang namanya
"root" itu memang yang paling utama. Dalam urutan "daftar isi", dia
terletak paling 'atas' ("/"). Sedangkan "home directory" tidak selalu
berada di "root". Misalnya saja, seorang pemakai bisa memiliki home
directory di /usr/cosy/u4, yang lain di /usr/cosy/u5.

Kalau sistem operasi yang digunakan adalah dos, ya memang, home
directory adalah yang utama bagi sang pemakai (karena dos bukan
sistem operasi multi-pemakai (multiuser)).
  
> Coba baca keterangan berikut; periksa apakah mudah dimengerti
> oleh pemula.

	[...]

Nampaknya OK juga.



Oki
okidz@dworkin.ccs.northeastern.edu
From: iwan@cs.utexas.edu (Himawan Prajogo)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.indonesia
Subject: Re: Sport fans: Where are you?
Date: 21 Nov 1992 01:20:10 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cash.cs.utexas.edu
Summary: College football

> 
> Where are other basketball fans? Let's heat up the topic. 
> Stop discussing the ET problem. Let our leaders do their
> job. That is what we are paying the tax for. 
> I invite all basket ball fans to join this discussion. I don't
> plan to have only one on one discussion with Rony. I can talk
> to him here at Iowa State. I would like to hear other's opinion..
> So, join in and let's rock'n'roll
> 

Ok.. I agree this has ceased to be a fun newsgroup from day one...
Now, I agree that the Bulls are gonna go all the way again, that Jordan
will win his 100th scoring title, and that he will find a cure for AIDS and
end hunger in this world.. :)) seriously, the guy has no peer (yet)
Too bad Magic and Bird has to go.. the NBA will never be the same..

So who do you think will replace them ?Mourning ? Shaquille ? Larry Johnson ?
I especially like Tim Hardaway. Man, if only God blesses me with a crossover,
between-the-legs, spinning dribble like that... I would still be a basketball
moron, cos I can't score anyway :)

Oh yeah, let's also talk about COLLEGE FOOTBALL !! ANY INDONESIAN AGGIES 
OUT THERE ? YOU RIPPED UP OUR FIELD !! (I'm from UT, and we hate TEXAS A&M)
YA GONNA PAY !! Who's really no 1 folks ? Michigan, Alabama, Miami or 
(gasp) Texas A&M ? Whaddaya think ? 

Sigh.. I'm gonna miss this when I go home to Indo... nothing replaces
Mie Gajah Mada tho.. :)

-- 
  "It's a bird ! It's a plane ! It's.... time for lunch.." -Plucky, TTA
 iwan@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu				iwan@cs.utexas.edu

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