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Back in the mid-80's, I went to a movie in Holland with a (male)
friend. The theatre assigned seats. We were near the front of the queue - 
in fact there were just two girls in front of us.

We thus found ourselves in an almost empty auditorium (except for the
two girls) You can guess where the theatre had assigned us seats! It
was amusing and a bit embarrassing but we all had  a good laugh.

DC
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From: sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: The Weird List
Date: 7 Jan 93 02:11:35 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Distribution: rec
Organization: VPI&SU Computer Science Department, Blacksburg, VA


Hi Folks:

The list of weird, eccentric and original movies (more or less) has
swelled to more than a hundred.  If you know of any that belong there,
please post.  And also, if you have seen any of the movies in the list,
it would help if you could post a rating you think the picture
deserves (0-5).  I'll average things out and resend the list.... 

bye
Ahmed

1984 ... (2)
A Clockwork Orange ... (3)
Adjuster, The
Adventures of Baron Munchhausen, The ... (4)
After Hours
Alphaville
Android ... (2.5)
Apocalypse Now
Bad Seed (b&w), The
Bagdad Cafe ... (3.5)
Bambi Meets Godzilla
Barfly
Barton Fink
Basket Case I - III
Beetlejuice ... (2.5)
BigTop Pee-wee
Blade Runner
Blood Simple
Blue Velvet ... (4)
Brain Dead ... (3.5) 
Brain Donors
Brave New World
Brazil ... (4)
Chained for Life
Cockfighter 
Comfort and Joy
Company of Strangers, The
Cook, The Thief, His Wife and Her Lover, The ... (3.5)
Cry Baby 
Deadly Weapons 
Delicatessen
Down By Law
Dracula
Dune
Eating Raoul
Edward Scissorhands
El Topo
Eraserhead (b&w)
Fahrenheit 451 ... (4)
Female Trouble
Freaks  
Gothic
Grifters, The
Harold and Maude
Heathers
Holy Mountain
Hudson Hawk
Hush, Hush Sweet Charlotte (b&w)
Kafka
King of Hearts
Koyannisqatsi
LA Story
Leather Jacket
Leningrad Cowboys go America
Lost Boys, The
Mad Max  ... (3.5)
Magic Christian, The
Man Who Would Be King, The
Man who Fell to Earth, The
Mermaids
Miller's Crossing ... (1.5)
Miracle Mile
Mom and Dad Save the World
Mondo Cane
Naked Lunch
Nekromantik I and II
Night on Earth
O Lucky Man
Pee-wee's Big Adventure 
Phantom of the Paradise
Pink Flamingo
Poison 
Privilege
Promised Land
Raising Arizona
Re-animator ... (2)
Rear Window
Repo Man
Rocky Horror Picture Show, The
Rumble (sp??) Fish from Coppola...
Santa Sangre
Satan's Sadists 
Satyricon
Shakes the Clown
Shampoo
Slackers
Sleuth
Spaced Invaders
Speaking Parts
Spider Baby 
Stranger than Paradise
Streets of Fire
Stuntman, The
Supergirl
Swimming to Cambodia
Tampopo
The 5000 Fingers of Dr. T.
Time Bandits ... (2.5)
Torch Song Trilogy
Trouble In Mind
True Stories
Whatever Happened to Baby Jane? (b&w)
Wild At Heart ... (2)
Wise Blood 
Young Einstein ... (3)
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From: K.R.Catchpole3@lut.ac.uk
Subject: Re: Naked Lunch
Reply-To: K.R.Catchpole3@lut.ac.uk 
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 10:37:38 GMT

The most PERFECT movie I've ever seen:

Sex, 
Drugs,
Not much Rock n'Roll (but who cares ?)
Comedy
Satire 
Horror
Biographic
etc.....

A sort of cut up and fold in of every movie style you can think of.....

Read the book, you'll probably understand the film more. The book's also much
better (if you can read it all). BUT the book is *VERY* graphic.The 'monsters'
in the film were partly to portray visually what Burroughs wrote so as to get
past the censors.

"Corpses hang pants open on the road to Monterrey"

KRC


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From: mdriscol@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mollie M Driscol)
Subject: Re: The Crying Game ***SPOILERS***
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:26:02 GMT

In article <29254@oasys.dt.navy.mil> poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy) writes
>acts as he does with dil .   my question is if he is homosexual or
>not (not that it matters), but the movie never makes it very clear.
>they sleep together a couple of times, but you never get the indication
>that they do anything .  i get the idea fergus acts as he does in the
>end more out of kindness and regret over jodi's loss than anything else.
>please correct me if im wrong.

I think that part of the beauty of the film lies in its blurring
of boundaries.  Dil/Jaye blurs gender boundaries, as even after
we find out his sex, he still maintains mostly "feminine"
characteristics.  Fergus blurs sexual orientation boundaries
because although he does not consciously adopt a "gay" or "bisexual"
orientation, his behavior might place him in one of these
categories, regardless of his motive.  I think you're right when
you say that it doesn't matter, and I think that's part of the
beauty of the film.

mollie
mdriscol@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS!
Date: 9 Jan 93 18:54:24 GMT
Organization: Exile Government of Bramming

bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:

>I *love* when there are 4 or more trailers before a feature!

When you have seen the same bloody trailers 10 times in less than
2 weeks you feel like killing someone.
-- 
Jesper Lauridsen        | Je ne suis pas un voyou
rorschak@daimi.aau.dk   | Je suis Monsieur Hire 
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From: allan@microware.com (R. Allan Kirkhart)
Subject: Re: Coppola's DRACULA
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:25:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.032459.12219@Princeton.EDU> egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges) writes:
>
>In short, it's high time to put to rest any notion that the media elite
>in this country is "liberal."

Agreed!  Now if ever it becomes otherwise, maybe we can! ;)



-----------------
My opinions alone

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From: egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges)
Subject: Re: Coppola's DRACULA
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 02:20:56 GMT

Pray tell me, WHY is relating a movies to current events, of which the
movie makers are both consciously and unconsciously aware, especially
either "deconstructionist" or "drivel?"  It is true that I enjoy reading
film criticism that is at least aware of French theories; such criticism
is much better, to me, than the Trivial Pursuit of much American
criticism, concerned as it is with issues of mere entertainment and who
said what to whom.  It is certainly news to me that we must check our
brain at the door of the cinema, that indeed cinema is to be treated as
another drug.

Dracula DOES stalk Winona Ryder and his conduct is rewarded with her
love.  The parallels to Serbia ARE unavoidable; imagine making a movie
celebrating Czarist pogroms at THE SAME TIME Hitler's holocaust was in
full swing.

It is clear to me that Coppola "coulda been the champ" but his career
was short-circuited PRECISELY by the lack of a healthy film criticism in
this country, which would have forced the guy to look at his unexamined
will-to-power.  The guy made a great movie, Godfather I, and then
proceeded to turn out crap because all he had to read were his own press
releases.  He ends up, sadly, using self-referential stunts stolen from
better directors (like the incredibly tedious scenes in the early cinema
in which Dracula chases Ryder's character) without understanding how to
use them.

You may be so afraid of authority that ANY criticism is, to you,
"deconstructionist drivel", and I will once more note that the
neo-Stalinist anti-PC drive was part of the manufacture of consent to
the genocidal war against Iraq.  And Esquire magazine has reprinted
communiques from Coppola that show a psychotic fear of criticism and
willingness to retaliate.  But give me "deconstructionist drivel" over
Trivial Pursuit and the stink of fear any goddamn day of the week.
From: mas@calmasd.Prime.COM (Marisa SorBello)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Jurassic Park
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:39:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

Does anyone know when Jurassic Park is scheduled for release?
Even approximately?

-- Marisa
From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Siskel & Eberts Top 10 of 1992
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:31:57 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

>>"One False Move" is an independently made American film about a group of
>Yeah, I enjoyed it as well.  I really liked the performance by the main
>villian (I can't remember the actor's name).  He is the same guy who
>plays on the tv show "Hearts of Fire".  Talk about completely opposite
>characters.  

Do you mean Hearts Afire?

And do you mean John Ritter?

That's impossible.  John Ritter has never been in a good movie in
his LIFE.
.
.
.
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Movies In the Public Domain
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 18:22:01 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity von Uniland, College Park
Originator: clin@step.eng.umd.edu


In article <1993Jan8.152826.2641@b8.b8.ingr.com>, anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:
>In article <138330001@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com>, stachnik@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (George Stachnik) writes:
>|> I'm interested in movies that have passed into the public
>|> domain.  Does anybody have a list?  I was told recently that
>|> nobody owns the copyright to "It's a Wonderful Life", which
>|> I found hard to believe.  Can anyone confirm or deny?  Are
>|> there any other films of note that are in the public domain?
>
>I hope this won't be too long winded, but as I grew up I was a TOTAL movie-head,
>especially movies from the 30's and 40's. And I had never even HEARD of this film
>until it suddenly (in early `80s) started appearing on practically every TV
>channel around Christmas time. I read/saw somewhere (and I honestly think it was
>on Siskel&Ebert) that the company that owned "It's a Wonderful Life"'s copyright
>had let it run out and it was in the public domain, so therefore, every TV
>station could own a copy and show it at-will without paying for the rights.
>
>But this is all from memory and personal experience, so don't blame me if it's
>wrong.

   I believe this is correct.  I was listening to the radio, and there
was an interview with someone who did research on this movie.  In the
mid-seventies, the movie's copyright or whatever ran out, and they started
showing this movie on all the cable channels, etc. who wanted a movie they
didn't have to pay money for, and, like the Wizard of Oz, it's probably
more popular now than it was when it first came out.   I forget who
was interviewed, but I seem to recall that it was some actor in some old
tv show.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu

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From: wkm1@nestor.cc.bellcore.com (messer,wendy k)
Subject: what was it?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 18:07:46 GMT
Keywords: Parents

My friends and I rented Parents (Randy Quaid, Mary Beth Hurt, Sandy
Dennis) to watch over New Year's Day.

What the hell was -THAT- ??

It had been put in the comedy section of the video store...
Parents has to be the weirdest picture I have seen in a
very very long time...

Could some kind soul explain it to me?
We were so confused, that we actually started to watch the
film again the next day, sober....

WkM

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From: hypes@boi.hp.com (Gary Hypes)
Subject: Re: (Unsolicited) advice against Blockbuster
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:17:57 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

One note, at least, in defense of BBV.

When BBV opened its first outlet here in Boise, it easily had the
biggest selection -- and the most copies of first-run movies -- of any
place here in Boise.  The fact that it even had a section where you
could rent older "classic" movies was an absolute Godsend. BBV also had
the good graces to make available categories of videos of special interest to
the local communities, something no other video store has done.

I don't regularly rent from BBV because (a) they started getting a
little pricey, and (b) I now live about 12 miles from the closest one.
But BBV did wonders for opening up the whole video market in this area,
and there's now open and healthy competition for selection, prices, and
special services.

I say, God bless 'em and more power to them.

- Gary Hypes -
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From: wildcat@niwot.scd.ucar.edu (Wes Wildcat)
Subject: Re: Help needed on movie quotes
Organization: Scientific Computing Divison/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:30:15 GMT

In article <93008.182541MWALTER@ESOC.BITNET> <MWALTER@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
>1. Network
>
>2. On The Waterfront
>
>3.Mae West movie...Maybe My Little Chicadee(sp?)
	She Done Him Wrong
>
>4.Taxi Driver
From: eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com (Steve Eiswirth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: 2 movie questions
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:32:39 CDT
Organization: Management Graphics, Inc.

First question:

	Does anyone know what place T2 is in as far as top grossing '91 movies,
	as well as where it places on the all-time list?

Second question:

	Does anyone remember the name of a movie that came out a few years
	ago starring Ron Silver as this guy who's married to an immigrant
	as well as a fabulous redhead (Lena Olin, I think)?

Thanks.
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From: pelton@ecf.toronto.edu (PELTON MATTHEW ALAN)
Subject: Re: Review:  TOUS LES MATINS DU MONDE (Minor SPOILERS)
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:46:34 GMT

In article <1isqq3INNgat@mizar.usc.edu> adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.154211.18669@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> 
>blake7@herahera.cc.bellcore.com (berardinelli,james) writes:
>> TU LES MATINS DU MONDE (All the Mornings of the World)
>
>Not quite.  A more literal translation of "Tu les matins du monde"
>is "Kill the Mornings of the World".
>
>Arne

  Yah, but he got the name wrong.

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From: sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu!dragel (Cheryl Dragel)
Subject: Re: Liam Neeson???
Originator: dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:05:36 GMT

Liam Neeson also played Diane Keaton's boyfriend in
"The Good Mother."

--cheryl
dragel@sqhilton.pc.cs.cmu.edu
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: x can't make money
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:38:57 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

TM>I repeat myself:
TM>I am not surprised "X" is not making money. I think that a large
TM>number of moviegoers heard the words "Malcolm X" and dismissed
TM>the movie as "preaching that white people are evil."

There's another reason why MALCOLM X isn't a blockbuster, and that
reason has nothing to do with racism:

The movie is three-and-a-quarter hours long, and this means the
theaters can only show it twice per day, or three times at the most.
Compare this with the FIVE or even SIX times per day a theater can
show a movie that's 90 minutes to two hours long - and sell tickets to
each show.  This is a very important reason why X has "only" made
about $40 million.

After spending months in the theaters last year, JFK (which is also
three hours long) "only" made about $70 million, and no one considered
it a flop.  If MALCOLM X does that good, then the studio will have
reason to break out the champagne once again.
---
  SLMR 2.1a  I am willing/I am ready/I believe. Lay your hands on me!
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA
From: tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Date: 8 Jan 1993 21:03:40 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: itchub21.cs.itc.hp.com


My spouse and I are so sick of many of the items that have been
mentioned here that we do not go to the movies except for really hot
movies. We wait for Pay-Per-View or HBO. Yes, we realize it's fun to go
to the theatre, but it usually ends up being a hassle.

Here's some of my favorites:

1. Very small theatres. I wish we had a few really big ones like the old
   days (I'm 36!)
 
2. Poor sound, unfocused projector.

3. 4-5 Preview movies.

4. Idiots who do not take others into consideration.  This could be 
   talking, throwing food, etc.. Most are teens or younger.

5. The price of the movie itself. When we do go, we go early for the
   $3.50 or $3.75 seats. $6.50 is just a bit much for a movie. I can
   watch it on HBO in 6-12 months for almost free, or catch it on
   pay-per-view for $2.99 or $3.99 in 3-6 months, and I can record it.

6. The fact that everyone wants to see the same movies as me so you end
   up going at weird times or it's sold out!!!!!!


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From: davely@microware.com (Dave Lyons)
Subject: Re: Movies In the Public Domain
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:21:41 GMT

In article <138330001@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com>, stachnik@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com (George Stachnik) writes:
|> I'm interested in movies that have passed into the public
|> domain.  Does anybody have a list?  I was told recently that
|> nobody owns the copyright to "It's a Wonderful Life", which
|> I found hard to believe.  Can anyone confirm or deny?  Are
|> there any other films of note that are in the public domain?
|> 

Paul Harvey talked about this during one of his "Rest of the Story" bits.  
It seems that "It's a Wonderful Life" wasn't well received when it first 
came out and was more or less forgotten about.  So when the time came to
renew the copyright, nobody bothered and it entered the public domain.  
Now, anyone who wants to can sell videos of it or show it on TV without
having to pay any royalties.  

-- 
|Dave Lyons - uunet!mcrware!davely    | Trying to get out                  |
|-------------------------------------|     of being in                    |
| I'm not even sure if I agree with   |          has left me inside out    |
|          my opinions                |               77's                 |
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Review:  SCENT OF A WOMAN
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:27:12 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1iv2vhINNah2@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, fugitt@tempus.Corp.Sun.COM 
(Lem Fugitt - Nihon Sun US Office) writes:

>>> SCENT OF A WOMAN

> The ending was somewhat dumb - but my pet peeve was that the
> trailers for this movie (along with the trailers for many
> others) gave the whole story away. The scenes from the end of the
> movie that were included in the TV promotional commercials
> made it obvious how things would turn out before the movie
> even started.

You mean you couldn't tell what was going to happen at the end of this
movie???  I mean the man got everything but his sight back!  (And I was
half expecting that too)

Sorry, I just have to stress again that I hated _Scent of a Woman_ because
of the ending.  You have been warned.

Greg Bole                                  "A twelve-gague, double-barreled, 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                  grenade-launcher of LOVE!"
                                           Steve Martin in _Leap of Faith_
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Subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS for WEIRD MOVIES - Embellished
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:28:13 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <1iscllINN2vu@ope001.iao.ford.com> Chad Childers <chad@quality.ta.ford.com> writes:
>I haven't seen this one, but Eat the Rich definitely made cannibalism
>entertaining, as did World Gone Wild (which may qualify for this list...
>certainly a more wierd version of the Mad Max genre) and Silence of the
>Lambs.  Come on, weren't you rooting for Hannibal?

Hey, look everybody, I found someone that actually *liked* Eat the Rich!


Please excuse the sarcasm, but I found Eat the Rich to be a terrible
disappointment. Nosher Powell (? - the Brit politician) was mildly
amusing but really only enough for a short skit on a comedy program.

I thought the rest of it was boring and pretty well lacking in humour.

When it comes to eating people, how about the subplot in Eating Raoul?
-- 
    Thomas Beagle | thomas@datamark.co.nz           Work: 64 4 233 8186
Datamark Intl Ltd | thomas@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz     Home: 64 4 499 3832
 Technical Writer | Yes, I do have long ears, a black nose, and a tail.
From: v067rcyf@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (AARDVARK)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: LOOKING FOR ORIGINAL VIDEOS !!!!!!!!!
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:18:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Please crosspost if there is a more appropriate group...

                            We're seeking local video artists
                            (Buffalo area, perhaps)
                            to volunteer their work on VHS
                            format to show in our gallery.

can reply to FROM line

v067rcyf@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu 

or can call
Buffalo State College
Visual Arts Board at
(716) 878-6833

ask for christine...                             thanks    :)


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From: jdooley@maemaster.eng.uci.edu (John R. Dooley)
Subject: Re: Montreals critics TOP TEN OF 92 (lots of foreign movies)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:34:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.085752.12919@vlsi.polymtl.ca> d40937@aiken (Jean Yves Desbiens) writes:
>
> List of Montreal critics top ten of 92 deleted.
>

>
>Tous les matins du monde, seams a shoe in for best foreign film at the
>oscars and Howards End will be close (maybe not winner) to an oscar.
>

I wouldn't call it a "shoe-in".  It's possible that it won't get a
nomination.  The French film "Indochine" is also extremely good.
And, in the US, it has been getting (I would say) generally better
reviews that Tous Les Matins du Monde. 

Then, if it gets the nomination, other foreign-language films may
offer tough competition.  "The Best Intentions" (Sweden) is as
likely a winner.  And, although a long shot, I wouldn't dismiss
"Toto le Hero" (Belgium).

John D.

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From: feathers@serss0 (Michael Feathers)
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:01:25 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.114209.29004@cbnewse.cb.att.com> anton@cbnewse.cb.att.com (anton.j.panagos) writes:
>In article <3977@creatures.cs.vt.edu>, sahle@csgrad.cs.vt.edu (Eskinder Sahle) writes:
>> 
>> Hi all:
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks guys for the suggestions on weird movies: the list I've 
>> compiled so far is below--please add if you can think of any other.
>> 

That could not possible be a list of weird movies if it left out the weirdest
movie of all time:  Eraserhead.