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From: Dale@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Dale Gee)
Subject: Re: obnoxious PUBLIC television
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:02:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec5.154339.18633@athena.cs.uga.edu> mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington) writes:
>Am I the only one who is strongly put off by the way Georgia Public TV
>tries to manipulate children in its pledge drives?
>
>This morning my 4-year-old is begging for a stuffed animal that I can't
>get unless I give $90 to GPTV.  
>
>In years past, children have been told -- by GPTV in the middle of children's
>programs -- to "go get mommy and daddy for something important" which
>turned out to be a pledge appeal.
>
>In my opinion, GPTV has sunk pretty low if it has to manipulate children
>in an attempt to extract money from their parents.  When commercial TV
>tries this kind of thing, it is roundly criticized as unethical.
>
>What, anyhow, is so "noncommercial" about a TV network that has to spend so
>much time begging the public for money, and trying to extract money by
>means that are neither straightforward nor tasteful, such as making 4-year-
>olds beg for stuffed animals?
>
>-- 
>:-  Michael A. Covington     internet mcovingt@uga.cc.uga.edu 
>:-  Artificial Intelligence Programs       phone 706 542-0358
>:-  The University of Georgia                fax 706 542-0349
>:-  Athens, Georgia 30602-7415 U.S.A.     amateur radio N4TMI

I don't let the kids watch PBS during begathon week.  What is really vile 
is not only them telling the kids to get mommy & daddy or sesame street 
is not comming back *what our pbs station did* is they are begging for
money to support years of showig the same reruns.  My son refuses to watch
Square One Tv anymore after showing the season three years in a row.

The other night was the lowest of low. They had been hyping this interview
with David Suchet the actor who plays Hercule Poirot.  The interviewer 
would beg for money, ask two questions, beg for money and then break back to
the local station for a beg break. This went on for 30 minutes. It was
worse than a farging commerical.  Sell commerical time. They say that 
this type of programing wouldn't make it in commerical. It's plain that
they never seen the A&E channel or the Discovery Channel on cable.

If they really was concerned about thier programing they wouldn't hold
the good stuff for the begathons.
 

Just sign me as "Watching A&E during begathons" 


                                                     

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From: lae@unislc.uucp (Leslie Evans)
Subject: Re: Question for the gals concerning hunks o' burnin' luv
Reply-To: lae@unislc.UUCP (Leslie Evans,B2C10,5383)
Organization: Unisys, Salt Lake City
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:07:06 GMT

     Well, I must admit I have had many crushes on TV actors in my 30 years,
some that go back to the ages of 3 & 4.  But The Great Love Of My Life,
celebrety wise, that is, has to have been Donny Osmond.  My best friend
in high school used to talk on the phone for hours about him and Paul 
Michael Glaser (Starsky and Hutch). 

     In recent years my heart has gone pity-pat for Ben Cross, Ken Olin
(Michael on thirtysomething) and the guy that plays "Joel" on NX.  I guess
I never lost my attraction for dark-haired men *sigh*.

Leslie Evans
Tape Goddess

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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:08:11 GMT

*Any even slightly sf show will change timeslots at the exact moment it begins
to develop a following.  It will continue to change timeslots until it ends
up on Fri or Sat night, where it will promptly die due to lack of ratings.

(as proven by Starman, the Flash, and we pray to TBEU not yet to QL)
-- 
Lady Johanna Constantine | "When you remove the pin, Mr Hand
tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu    |  Grenade is no longer your friend"
Founder of the Church of Our Lady of the Perpetually Clueless
Disclaimer: The U of I doesn't give a damn or blast WHAT I do
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From: louise@pravda.cc.gatech.edu (Louise Penberthy) 
Subject: Re: Question for the gals concerning hunks o' burnin' luv
Reply-To: louise@pravda.cc.gatech.edu (Louise Penberthy) 
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:38:14 GMT

In article <Bz9oL5.AGL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>>I can honestly say that it isn't driving me crazy.  Mainly because you women
>>have as much chance of ever actually *meeting* one of these hearthrobs as I
>>have of meeting Christy Brinkley.  Everybody gets to dream :-).
>
>Good luck with Christy.  I spent three hours talking with Michael Praed at
>a tea held by Kate and Morn at Visions 92, and worked all his photo sessions
>as a gopher.
>
>Did I mention the hugs?

I saw Michael Praed in a wondeful, campy version of "Pirates of
Penzance" in London in the spring of 1982.  He was a cutie, but I
drool far more over Tim Curry.  <pant pant>

I also lust strongly after John de Lancie (the recurring
character Q on ST:TNG).  Balding, yes, getting paunchy, yes, but
what a voice and so sexy!! 

Speaking of voices, James Earl Jones has an incredible voice.
Almost enough to vibrate you to ..... well ..... ;-)

Gotta hose myself down now .....

-- Louise Penberthy

Louise Penberthy                |  "A lot of people think 'a capella'
Dept of CSIS, Kennesaw State    |   means 'without clothes.'"
College, Marietta GA  30061     |        
louise@pravda.cc.gatech.edu     |        -- Barry Carl, bass, Rockapella
From: jfrench@cs.utexas.edu (Jason French)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Black Adder Christmas Special
Date: 20 Dec 1992 11:40:24 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lovelady.cs.utexas.edu

I missed Comedy Central's showing of the Black Adder Christmas Special and I
remember that when the date and time was posted that there were two dates, but
like a fool, I only wrote down the first.  Can someone get back to me on the
second broadcast date of this?  Thanks in advance.

+-------------------------------Jason French-------------------------------+
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! "Is life just a game where we make up the rules,                         !
!  While we're searching for something to say,                             !
!  Or are we just simply spiralling coils,                                 !
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From: morrison@eng.auburn.edu (Kelly Morrison)
Subject: Flying Blind: explain something, please...
Reply-To: morrison@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:51:58 GMT


OK, one of the jokes flew right over my head -- can someone explain
it? It's been bugging me for a long time!

In the episode where the Hochmann Fudge Girl (sp?) was after Neil,
Alicia made the remark "if she'd been leaning over any further, she'd
have produced yogurt." Now what's that supposed to mean?

And please be nice -- it's been a looooooooooooong quarter! :(
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From: rck1@ellis.uchicago.edu (roberta chi-woon kwong)
Subject: Re: Question for the gals concerning hunks o' burnin' luv
Reply-To: rck1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:53:23 GMT

In article <tal691.724582637@huxley> tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes:
>Even though I'm a guy, (and a fairly unattractive one; that's why I spend
>all my night in front of a computer) I think I know what makes girls 
>attracted to some men (what a fatous comment.)
>
>How about Ty Miller (Wild Bill Hickok, _The Young Riders_)?  That guy
>looks too damned good looking.

As a former YR addict, I'm stepping in here...

Ty Miller's character was The Kid; Josh Brolin (ooh, thread tie-in!
:-) played Wild Bill Hickok. But I'll support your theory by
saying, did I drool over them? Oh, yes. Gregg Rainwater too.

Oh, heck, I've started; may as well finish...

John Schneider on "The Dukes of Hazzard" (heck, I was 8 at the
time).

Mike Nesmith, Davy Jones, and Peter Tork of "The Monkees."

William Shatner in ST:TOS. (So sue me.)

Dirk Benedict on "The A-Team."

Michael J. Fox on "Family Ties" (oddly enough, I'd been watching
this show since '83 and never noticed him until "Back to the
Future").

And currently, QL's Scott Bakula and Dean Stockwell. Big surprise
there :-) (Strangely enough, I've never before drooled over two men
simultaneously until this show.)

Uh, that's enough for me. I hear final exams calling...ugh.


Robin C. Kwong ("er)
					quantum leaping (n.) def.--
					 Literally, a *flash*back.
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From: ied1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ingrid de Beus)
Subject: Re: Slight time goof in QL:  Promised Land (no real spoilers)
Reply-To: ied1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:06:40 GMT

some spoilers follow for "Promised Land"


In article <BzG4Bu.2vG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cad28526@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Chuck Douglas) writes:
>Overall, I liked the episode.  I did like how they gave an unhappy ending
>to the elder brother (not that I am mean spirited or anything :-).  I
>felt that this should that Sam, while helping out some people, can't
>help but unintionally hurt others by changing time.  Sort of a cosmic
>checks and balances system.
>
>-- 
>Chuckers -- a computer operator/programmer/benthic sorter/emaciated aryan.
>cad28526@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu	          |"You know I'll give you everything
>Novanet:  douglas/o/nova douglas/cerl/nova|I've got for a little peace of mind!"
>douglas-cerl OR douglas-o@nova.novanet.org|--"I'm So Tired" by The Beatles

I was discussing the ep with a friend of mine, and we were also pleased
with the bittersweet fate lined up for Neil, the eldest brother.  I
especially liked the fact that Sam was entirely responsible for it.
After all, if he had followed Al and Ziggy's original suggestion and
surrendered, Neil would never have shot Carl, and would never have
gone to prison for aggravated assault, and who knows? maybe would never
have died in New Orleans, six years later.

On a happier note, I rate the almost-high-five in this episode as one
of the best moments in QL.  anyone agree?

ingrid-
-- 
	Ingrid Elvire Maria de Beus a.k.a. ied1@midway.uchicago.edu
	My old .sig was quite pessimistic, so here's an improvement:
	 a Blake's 7 quote that works as a Quantum Leap reference!
      "We've come at the worst possible time -- of course."  (Kerr Avon)
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From: bmr@gonzo.b15.ingr.com (Bruce Reagan)
Subject: Heat Miser
Reply-To: reagan@fedsrus.b15.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Federal Systems
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:54:20 GMT

	Can anyone out there tell me what the name of the Christmas show with Heat Miser and Snow Miser is?  Everyone I've talked to knows
what I'm talking about, but can't tell me the name of the show.  I'd also be interested in knowing if it has been released as a video or
if any of the networks/big cable stations are planning on showing it.  If there is a better group to post this to, I'd appreciate any help
there as well.  Thank you.


-- 
Bruce Reagan
reagan@fedsrus.b15.ingr.com
bmr@gonzo.b15.ingr.com
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From: tovah@panix.com (Tovah Hollander)
Subject: Re: Eight is Enough question
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:05:22 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

> Diana Hyland did die of cancer sometime during the 1st season. I remember
>the family dealing with it even after Tom met and started dating Abby. The
>other notable incident is that she was dating John Travolta when she died.

I remember reading a semi-funny, semi-poignant article from around the
time of the second season about the *real* mother of the clan (her name
was also Joan), continuing to watch the show with her family but having
to put up with this stranger named Abby now married to her "husband" --
she found it quite distressing and kind of wished that they had just
re-cast "Joan" when Hyland died.

*NOT* that I would dream of admitting that I watched this show with
*ANY* sort of regularity or interest or anything, but I'm curious:  Does
anyone else remember the acrostic mnemonic which Nicholas used to remember
all of their names?  (Hint: It begins "Dumb Martians...")

-- 
Tovah Hollander
tovah@panix.com -or- tovah@onion.salad.mssm.edu
From: mab@buphy.bu.edu (Michael Burstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Moonlighting query
Date: 10 Dec 92 17:40:50 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1g4vbuINNjoo@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> vxv4@po.CWRU.Edu (Virgilio Velasco) writes:
>	Whatever happened to Maddie's child?

Maddie had a miscarriage. They had an entire episode called "A Womb with
a View," in which Bruce Willis played Baby Addison (confirming for the
viewers, if not for the characters, that the child was David's and not
the other guy's). During this episode an angel tells Baby Addison all
about his parents and life in the outside world, and then discovers that
the baby is being re-assigned to some other womb. They go off singing
"On the Sunny Side of the Street." Then we're back in the outside world,
Maddie stumbles, and has a miscarraige.

Or were you referring to another child of Maddie's? I seem to remember
that she got married and possibly pregnant later on.

-- 
Michael A. Burstein
Physics Department, Boston University         mab@buphy.bu.edu
590 Commonwealth Ave.                         (617) 353-9437 (o)
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From: gypsy@world.std.com (Meredith Lesly)
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 01:35:15 GMT

In article <00964EFA.DAD54980@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>No one on TV ever has to look up a phone number.
>
>When two guys are fighting, the woman is somehow rooted to her spot
>and can never pick up anything to help the good guy.
>
>Mary H.


Not necessarily. But when the woman is able to pick something up she always
manages to *hit* the good guy.. (See Moonlighting pilot for example.)

==============================================================================
I'm not employed so this is definitely my opinion...


"Is that ethical? That can't be ethical!"
"No, it's television."
  Al, Moments to Live
==============================================================================
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From: jclark@plains.NoDak.edu (The Dreaded Editor)
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:10:03 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <Dec.15.15.58.49.1992.23270@gandalf.rutgers.edu> volaski@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jami Volaski) writes:
>- Any security system can be overridden with whatever materials you happen
>  to have on you at the time.

That's MacGyver's Law, isn't it.  :-)

----------
Justin J. Clark (jclark@plains.nodak.edu)
Traveller through time and space, stranded in a world gone mad!
From: jreece@sousa.intel.com (John Reece)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Cheers/Frazier
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:01:53 GMT
Reply-To: jreece@sousa.intel.com
Organization: Intel - Information Technologies

In article <41284@unix.SRI.COM>, cole@unix.SRI.COM (Susan Cole) writes:

> Besides, I hated to see Lilith go.  I was also sorry to see Robin Colcord
> leave the show.

There wasn't any reason to explicitly write Lilith out.   With the series
ending this year they simply could have had her not turn up for the 
remaining episodes.

-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman
From: ecohn@indyvax.iupui.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Enough of the QL stuff
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:22:50 GMT
Organization: Purdue University, Indianapolis

In article <Bz9Mqx.CqI@naz.edu>, manaud@naz.edu (Michael A. Naud) writes:
> How come everytime I look at this news group, over 90 percent 
> of the traffic is related to Quantum Leap.  I thought that a
> new news group was created for that, like alt.tv.quantum.leap
> or something.  There are other television programs to watch.
> 
> Remember, the above is just MHO, and all flames will be ignored.

This is NOT a flame, but no new news group has been created for the discussion
of Quantum Leap.   What _has_ been created is alt.CREATIVE.ql, which is for
posting original fiction relating to QL; it is definitely not for discussing th
e show.

HOWEVER, I have noticed that most of the QL discussion seems to be posted to
rec.arts.sf.tv, and only a little to r.a.tv.  Perhaps we could put all the QL
discussion on r.a.sf.tv  - keep it all in one place? 

As Michael said, just MHO.

Ellen - the crime doctor
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From: ied1@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ingrid de Beus)
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Reply-To: ied1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:37:34 GMT

In article <1g7oeaINNrg3@chnews.intel.com> sramirez@milos.intel.com (Steve Ramirez) writes:
>>
>>> > This sounds like an interesting topic ... anyone else have any others?
>>> > What valuable lessons do we learn from watching TV?
>>> > 
>>> 
>>> Any woman in a TV program (most usually a drama or cop show) will NEVER
>>> carry a purse.  (I wanna know where they keep their wallets!)
>>> 
>>
>>Police always find parking spots right in front of buildings.
>>
>>Everyone had a maid/cook in the 50's
>
>- Pretty, pouty rich girls deserve to be happy, even though no one *really*
>  understands them.
>
>- Every teen heartthrob has a dorky friend, if he's a nice guy.
>
>- If your backing away from something in a dark hall, as soon as you turn 
>  around something/one will be waiting for you.
>

One axiom that I picked up from tv: The first accused is never the 
guilty party.  Corollary? Jessica Fletcher's relatives are *always*
innocent.  


-- 
	Ingrid Elvire Maria de Beus a.k.a. ied1@midway.uchicago.edu
	My old .sig was quite pessimistic, so here's an improvement:
	 a Blake's 7 quote that works as a Quantum Leap reference!
      "We've come at the worst possible time -- of course."  (Kerr Avon)
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From: rck1@ellis.uchicago.edu (roberta chi-woon kwong)
Subject: "Tour of Duty" question
Reply-To: rck1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:25:33 GMT

QuestionS, actually, but they're minor ones:

When did "Tour of Duty" first air? And who starred/stars in it?

Thanks!


Robin C. Kwong ("er)
					swiss-cheesing (n.) def.--
						Leap-lag.
From: "tom betz" <tom.betz@execnet.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: jackie thomas show (tom a
Date: 11 Dec 92 07:39:14 EST
Reply-To: "tom betz" <tom.betz@execnet.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Executive Networks Information

Quoth Unknown regarding JACKIE THOMAS SHOW (TOM A on 12-10-92:

U >Oh yeah.. Who is the woman who he was getting along the best with, and
U >else has she been in?

Alison LaPlaca, supporting player in "Duet", and lead player in the 
spinoff, the name of which I forget.

I always did like her.

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From: mins@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (timothy.j.mizerak)
Subject: Re: Eight is Enough question
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:32:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.231335.628@schbbs.mot.com> AVRK90@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Kevin Cox) writes:
>I know this is WAY old, but I've been watching the reruns of Eight is
>Enough lately and have a question.  In the first episodes Joan Bradford
>(the actual wife/mother) was on the show, then all of a sudden she's
>gone.  In later episodes they mention that she died.  I don't remember
>an episode that dealt with her death.  Anyone know what she died of?
>Was she just written out of the show or what??

I can't believe I used to watch that show, and that I remember this, 
but....    The actress that played Joan died after the first season.
I believe she was murdered.   So, the show sent her away on an African
safari or something like that.  Of course, we didn't see this farewell,
it was talked about in retrospect.   A few episodes later the Bradfords
learn of her unfortunate death and they all have to deal with it.  Tommy,
I recall, took it the hardest as he seemed to have a hard time expressing
his feelings.  I remember him finding a Christmas present from his mom
in the kitchen cupboards, something she had bought and wrapped early and
hid away.   

Sorry if my memory has distorted any facts, but I think that was pretty
much what went down.  

>Thanks for the help!
>Kevin   


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From: cab@col.hp.com (Chris Best)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:46:09 GMT
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Organization: your service
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> No matter what time of the day or night, you can hail a cab on the first
> No matter what time of the day or night, you can hail a cab on the first
> try.  

----------

Well, maybe the second try...
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From: chevron@access.digex.com (chevron)
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Subject: Re: Question for the gals concerning hunks o' burnin' luv
Date: 18 Dec 1992 03:30:22 GMT
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <Bz9osn.AK6@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>mary@uicsl.csl.uiuc.edu (Mary E. Allison) writes:
>
>>(Personally, I'll turn into a puddle of goo over most British
>>accents.)
>
>Ditto.  Dark haired, anglo/irish men strike me as most attractive.
>

Ditto Ditto!!  I can't believe in all these posts that no one has
yet mentioned Paul Darrow, who, of course, played the mysterious
and dangerous sometimes-panther, sometimes-pussycat Kerr Avon
on the Brit series, Blake's 7 in the late '70's, early '80's.
Absolutely stunning eyes, marvelous velvet voice and sheer grace
in motion.  _Exceptionally_ cute buns.  And that deadly smile.
Women still drool over him at sf cons.

And what about Gareth Thomas, who played the rebel leader Roj Blake
himself?  Not a graceful beauty like Darrow, but a definite
rough and ready, strong and rugged appeal and charm.  I was just
at Visions in Chicago over Thanksgiving, and there was some serious
drooling going on for Gareth as well.

Just my 2 cents worth . . .

BTW . . .  I also very much liked these characters for their
_minds_ as well.  Remember, Avon was a brilliant computer
scientist, and Blake an engineer and great leader.

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