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From: jizhu@sunrel.Eng.Sun.COM (Ji Zhu)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Drive Across Country
Date: 2 Sep 1992 23:48:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jizhu@sunrel.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: sunrel

Hi Netters,

A few friends and I want to drive across US continent sometime 
next year.  What we would like to do is to drive from SF bay area 
to Boston, then take a one way flight back.  Does anyone know if
there is a car rental company in the bay area who will allow us to 
drop its car at Boston?  If not, is there another way to do this?  
We don't want to drive back because it will take too long.  Any 
information will be appreciated.

Ji



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From: akg@iscp.bellcore.com (Anjan Ghosal)
Subject:  Information on travel in Italy
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 14:06:42 GMT


Hi,

  We are planning a trip to Italy around Nov 20-29
this year and are looking for some suggestions as to

  1. Places to Visit - (we are flying into Rome and 
        flying out of Milan)

  2. Info on traveling within Italy - Rome->Florence->Venice->Milan

  3. Climate/Nightlife/Eating Places


  Since we are hard pressed for time we will have to 
greatly optimize our trip. So any suggestions will be
welcome.

Thanks in advance,
Anjan
From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Narrowest street in Paris?
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:41:01 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <p03h570@fido.asd.sgi.com> leej@sgi.com (Lee Jones) writes:
>In article <SIMONS.92Aug24163404@tuntu.think.com> simons@tuntu.think.com (Joshua Simons) writes:
>
>>"it's rue de la chat qui peche on the left bank off the quai between st.
>>michel and jussieu."
>
>I recall from the Pariswalks book that the name was changed from/to (not sure)
>"Rue de la chat qui rit" in an effort to cleanse the name of the street.

Huh? What's "dirty" about "Street of the Fishing Cat"?
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From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: HELP! PARIS INFO NEEDED!
Date: 23 Aug 92 21:36:17 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

In article <92225.170115RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET> RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET writes:

>However having read the original posting I fail to see why the overall concern.
>Do European cities receive such bad 'press' in American media ?
>R A Flood

It's more accurate to say that European cities don't receive much
attention from American media at all! I just got back from a month in
Europe, trainpass/backpack style, and some folks I talked to acted as
though I was going on a wilderness trek through the rain-forest. 
  My impression is that Europeans are more "civilized" than Americans,
as far as friendliness, street crime, etc go. More people on the
street, more people talking to each other, more small stores and
cafes, less air-conditioning (which makes people hole up inside their
own rooms) and less dangerous cities. I did see some junkies in
Amsterdam and in Bern, and some neo-nazi graffiti in Switzerland, but
the cities were amazingly clean compared to the US. More people using
the streets and almost no garbage. 
  I live in Boston but grew up in New York and Chicago. American
cities seem to have a layer of trash several inches thick in every
gutter and alley (I hear that it's cleaner out West, but I haven't
seen it.) All I saw on the streets of Europe (London, Paris, various
places in Italy, Germany, Switzerland, Belgium, and Amsterdam) were
cigarette butts. Lots of those. No junk-food wrappers. I felt MUCH
safer in Paris and Rome than I do in Boston! I wouldn't wander the
waterfront in ANY city after midnight, of course. 
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From: fowler@esmlsun.gatech.edu (c b fowler)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Atlanta at Lasta
Summary: Mid-October visit
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:56:02 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

In article <l9nj2bINN3fe@phad.hsc.usc.edu> libman@phad.hsc.usc.edu (Marlena Libman) writes:

>After connecting at Hartfield airport no less than 3 times, I get to
>actually spend some time *in* Atlanta at last.  If you are familiar
>with that city, please e-mail me info on sightseeing, restaurants not
>to miss, and weather conditions around mid-October.  Thanksalot.

An absolute must...the Cyclorama, which is co-located with the Atlanta Zoo
(which is not a must)

The Cyclorama is a multi-media, 360-degree ("in the round") depiction of the 
Battle of Atlanta in 1864.  

There are, of course, many other attractions, but this is one thing that is 
Atlanta, and only Atlanta.

Mid-October in Atlanta is tops.  It can be hot, but usually it's quite 
pleasant.  If there has been some cold weather in early October, the leaf 
season is underway.


c. b. fowler  gtri/esml
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From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Bicycles and London (UK) tube system
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:59:28 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

rjames@sunsage.biotstats.uwo.ca (Rob James) wrote:
> I will be arriving at Heathrow airport in the next few weeks with my
> bicycle.  Can I take it on the tube?  Are there time-restrictions for
> having the bike on the tube?

No, it's a lot weirder than that.  The regulations actually say that you
can take a bike anywhere at any time on exactly those lines which at some
point emerge to the surface (this rules out the entirely-underground Circle
Line, but lets you use the lines that extend to the outer parts of London).
Since the line to Heathrow is above ground for a long way, you can take
your bike on that.

I'll repeat that, as experience with trying to get logical subtleties
across on Usenet shows that somebody's certain to misunderstand the above:
if a line of the London Underground is not completely underground, you can
take a bike between *any* stations on it, including underground ones.  If
a line *is* completely underground you can't take a bike on it at all.

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From: stevee@ivy.isc.com (Steve Ellingson)
Subject: Things to Do in Quebec City, Montreal, and Ottawa
Followup-To: rec.travel
Originator: stevee@enchant.ivy.isc.com
Organization: Interactive Systems Corp., Calabasas, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:07:15 GMT

As the title says, I'd like to hear suggestions about things to
do in Quebec City, Montreal, and Ottawa. I'll be flying in to
Quebec City, but I'll have a car.

Thanks!


				Steve


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From: steenl@sequent.com (Steen Larsen)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Portland Maine recommendations?
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:19:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Aug25.221943.16175
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

Does anyone have any recommendations for a good place to stay in
an interesting part of downtown Portland Maine?
Portland and Boston areas also appreciated.
Please e-mail responses to greg@kentrox.com before 8/28, Thanks.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 13:14:09 EDT
From: <HRL@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: PHILADELPHIA -> SFO AIR TICKET.

CONTACT ME FOR THE TICKET.  IT'S GOOD FOR A MALE PERSON, EARLY SEP 92.
TELEPHONE: 814 238 3545 OR E-MAIL... THANKS. HOWARD
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From: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Raley)
Subject: Re: Weather in Canadian Rocky in Sept.
Reply-To: lianne@bcarh17e.BNR.CA (Lianne Raley)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 12:29:53 GMT

|>In article <1992Sep1.154522.4783@sj.nec.com>,
hisashi@neclpd.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Hisashi Naganuma) writes:
|>> 
|>> We are planning to go Jasper, Canada from Sept 26. to Oct. 3.
|>> Please let me have information about the weather there.
|>> Is it cold? Can we expect much rain or snow there?
|>> 
|>> If there is any other information for sightseeing, please post.
|>> 
|>> Thanks in advance.
|>> 
|>	Weather in Jasper is unpredictable at the best of times.  I would
|>	suggest you bring your parkas as well as fall clothes.  It is generally
|>	cooler in Jasper but the senary is fantastic.  Make sure to take a day
|>	trip to the Columbia ice fields.
|>
|>> Hisashi Naganuma
|>> hisashi@lpd.sj.nec.com

I've just returned from two weeks in the Rockies (last 2 weeks of August).
It snowed. Heavily. Very unusual for this time of year, but believe me,
the weather in the mountains is definitely unpredictable! Naturally the
higher the altitude, the colder. You can lose 2-3 degrees for each
1000 feet.

We didn't make it to Jasper - right at the Columbia Icefields it started
snowing like crazy. I think it was about -2 degrees (Celcius). We had to
turn around as we had planned to camp along the way and didn't want to 
drive straight there. So I can't suggest any sightseeing in that area,
although Yoho Park is quite beautiful (Takakkaw Falls...there's a 1/2 day
hike in the area that's spectacular).

Bring lots of warm clothes, and jackets, and you'll be fine. The cold
weather is actually better if you plan to do any hiking, since you'll
want to stay warm!

  - Lianne -

                    
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From: nimmo@scb3.larc.nasa.gov (Nancy A. Nimmo)
Subject: Last minute West Virginia trip
Originator: nimmo@scb3.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:07:31 GMT


	My husband and I have decided at the last minute to go to W.VA
for the 3 day weekend.  I have been to the Seneca Rocks and Spruce Knob
area several times and love the area, but would like to go somewhere else.
Can anyone recommend anyplace south of that area-we will be tent camping,
want to do some hiking/biking/canoeing/rafting...whatever we find! Any
suggestions would be much appreciated.  If you're reading this after
today (9/4) please disregard as we will have already left!)
	Thanks a million,  Nancy
From: jdnicoll@watyew.uwaterloo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: Loud irritating obtrusive American tourists.
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 15:05:51 GMT

	What training do volunteer 'diplomats' get in US service? I ask
because, while going through my mother's effects last month, I discovered
the guide book the Canadian gov't used in CESO in the 1970s for people
going to Brazil; I will eventually scan it in over on sccanada, as it is
unintentially funny (or offensively patronising, take your pick).

	ObUSA: In the 1950s, did one have to be licensed to drive to own
a car? I discovered the registration for my folks car in 1954 and noticed it
was in my mother name. This is odd as she did not learn to drive until the
mid-1960s.

	They lived in California at the time, if it makes a difference.

								James Nicoll
From: jerry@siesoft.co.uk (Jerry Webb)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Bicycles and London (UK) tube system
Date: 3 Sep 92 12:00:36 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hmmmm, I would suggest as an alternative that you follow the cycle route
out of Heathrow airport onto the A4, then pedal the two miles to West
Drayton, where you can catch a British Rail train to Paddington with your
bike without a problem. Trains run about every 20 minutes, the ticket
costs about four pounds for a one day Capital Card, and Paddington is 
a good place for rail or bus connections.

The underground used to be fairly bike friendly ten years or so ago - I
once travelled from Tottenham Court Road to the suburbs, a journey that
involved negotiating a 160' long escalator on a fully loaded touring bike
with skis attached!! Now, however, the automatic ticket barriers make it
very difficult to get a bike off the tube in central London. These
ticket barriers are not so common at the outskirts, which is possibly why
the Picadilly line (did I read that post right?) is ok at the Heathrow
end.

N.B. - If you put your bike in a bag after removing the front wheel
and making it compact you will be able to take it on the tube or busses,
although for busses the driver usually can turf you off if he or she is
having a bad day.

Jerry
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From: ederveen@athena.research.ptt.nl (Ederveen D.)
Subject: Public transport in South-West Canada
Keywords: banff, vancouver, bus, train
Reply-To: D.N.M.Ederveen@research.ptt.nl
Organization: PTT Research
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:46:17 GMT


I'll be visiting Banff 12-16 october, and I'm planning to make a trip
to Vancouver and Victoria, visiting for example Banff National Park, Jasper
and Kamloops on the way. I already found out it's very expensive to hire a
car in Calgary or Banff and leave it in Vancouver. So, I'm wondering if
it's possible to do the trip by bus and/or train. Any information on
timetable, frequencies and prices would be *very* welcome. And of course,
any tips on what to do or see, and what *not* to do or see are very
interesting.

Please reply by e-mail, if there's interest I'll post a summary.
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From: sriram@cremona.Eng.Sun.COM (Sriram Ramachandran)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Europe - Strategies for dealing with exchange rates, money etc.
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:39:33 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: cremona

I'm looking for hints on dealing with currency exchange on a prolonged 
trip to Europe. A few that I've gathered so far:

* Banks usually have better exchange rates.
* Credit Cards: 
  There seem to two schools of thought on using credit cards. One that says 
  that credit card companies usually give you a more favourable exchange 
  rate. The other claim is that places that accept credit cards charge 
  higher prices in the first place (to offset the fee they pay to the credit 
  card companies) and this offsets the exchange gain.
  Any opinions ?
* Convert all coins into paper currency before leaving one country. 
* Carrying currency in local currency (francs, marks etc) from the US 
  to lock in current exchange rates. Ofcourse with the rates being the 
  way they are, I'm not sure if this will help a whole lot unless ofcourse 
  the dollar continues to spiral downwards. 


sriram/.
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From: spindler@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
Subject: Re: Florida
Reply-To: spindler@rcf.rsmas.miami.edu
Organization: RSMAS
Distribution: us
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 20:39:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.030833.12046@panix.com>, 
pkap@panix.com (Peter Kapner) writes:
>
>I'm surprised that I haven't seen any discussion about hurricane
>Andrew's effect on Fla. on the net in these newsgroups.
>

Hello world!  We've just had our power restored, and our computers turned on,
so this is the first time I've been able to communicate with the network since
Sunday night.  Miami is a terrible mess, and it will be a long while before we
can rebuild it.

First of all, if anyone is expecting to visit Miami or the Keys in the near
future, forget it.  The last time I checked the police and National Guard were
restricting movement south of Miami and into the Keys to residents only. 
They've set up roadblocks on all of the major roads leading to the Keys and
South Dade, and they are stopping every vehicle.

While the Keys were not hit by the storm, they did lose power, and their water
supply may be as suspect as ours (they get it from up here).  All of Dade
County is on a mandatory boil-water rule until further notice.  The city has
been under a curfew as well for the entire week.

I live in the Coconut Grove, and we have no power.  Coral Gables, South Miami,
Kendall, and points south are without power.  FPL is continuing efforts to
restore power, with all of Broward County back on line, and much of North Dade
and North Miami as well.  The hardest-hit sections of the city and points south
will take a lot longer to rewire, though.

Many many residents in the affected areas are without food, water, or shelter,
and the Red Cross and other relief groups are asking for donations of food,
supplies, and money to help the stricken areas.  If you know of any donation
drives in your area, PLEASE HELP!

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From: chucker@bnr.ca (Ron Mcewen)
Subject: Re: Reg. India, Nepal, Kashmir Travel Suggestions
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:25:50 GMT

In article <29495@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU> smezias@wissel.GBA.NYU.EDU (Stephen J. Mezias) writes:
>A few observations based on a 5 week trip to India in 1986 and a 3
>week trip to Nepal in 1987:
>
				...
>(4) On treks in Nepal it is worthwhile to make arrangements that
>include providing food for you.  While the food in Pokhara and
>Kathmandu is excellent, the food available along the Annapurna trek
>was fairly repulsive.  Luckily for me, I have a cast iron stomach and
>did not become ill; however, to call the conditions along the way
>unsanitary would be generous.  Also, the rest houses tend to fill with
>smoke as the villagers light unventilated fires in their homes; if you
>are sensitive to smoke, arranging for a trip with tents might be
>worthwhile.  Make all such arrangements after you arrive in Nepal if
>you are on a tight budget; the savings over booking in the US will be
>very large.
>

I had no problems at all with the food along the Annapurna circuit, in
fact I (and my fellow trekkers) liked it alot. The less travelled eastern
part has less fancy food (the western section had Burritos, Pizza, etc)
but it was all very good. The Nepalese staple, Dal Bot (sp), is basic but
exactly what you need when hiking all day - some vegetables, a curry type
sauce (dal) and lots of (generally unlimited) rice. Occasionally some places
were smokey, but I never found it a problem. I, however, did
meet other people with organized expeditions (paying $3000 for 3 weeks, yow!)
who were sleeping in tents and said, especially at the higher atlitudes,
that they'd rather be inside - the sun sets real early, it gets cold
very quickly, and there's nowhere to go but a cramped tent.

In general, the whole Nepalese hiking experience is just fantastic. Have
fun.
-- 
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From: barrett@terminus.gatech.edu (James Barrett)
Subject: Transportation from Phoenix <--> Cottonwood
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:12:21 GMT

I just lost the possibility of a ride tomorrow (9/4) night 
from the airport in Phoenix to Cottonwood (~15 miles from
Sedona) after I fly into Phoenix.  I've tried *all* the 
car rental agencies and even U-Haul, but can't find any way
to make that trip at 8:30pm tomorrow (damn Labor Day!).  
Anyone have *any* ideas?

The last bus is at 6:20pm.



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From: leonglaw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Lawrence LEONG)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:20:23 GMT
Subject: Re: **CHINA** (Nanjing, Xian, Bejing) INFO wanted !!!
Organization: HP Singapore
Newsgroups: rec.travel

In rec.travel, root@igahpse.epfl.ch writes:

|We leave next week to China. All hints appreciated (places to visit,
|shopping, money). Is there anything reasonable to do at Singapore
|airport during few hours ?
|
|Thankx !
|
|-- 
|***  Andrzej KULIK, Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne,
|*** Institut de Genie Atomique, CH-1015 LAUSANNE, SWITZERLAND.
|*** Phone: (21)693'33'59, Fax: (21)693'44'70, e-mail: root@igahp1.epfl.ch

Take a city tour - enquire at the info desk, also take the chance to do some
shopping.  Or you could eat, lotsa eating places there.  

lawrence
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From: josh@Happy-Man.com (Joshua_Putnam)
Subject: Re: How to see Seattle cheap?
Reply-To: Joshua_Putnam@happy-man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:57:32 GMT

In <1992Sep1.024619.466@gossip.urich.edu> helen@nomad.urich.edu (Helen C. O'Boyle) writes:

>In article <26680006@hpspkla.spk.hp.com> cicarell@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Collen Cicarell) writes:
>>Hi there,
>>I don't know where the Youth
>>Hostel is, but you can walk all around town.  Some highlights that I recommend
>>are Pike Place Market,

>Actually, I think the Youth Hostel is right around Pike Place Market (like
>within a block or so), and very convenient to public transportation to just
>about everywhere in Seattle.  Decent neighborhood, and stuff to do nearby.

The hostel is very convenient to the market, and the
hostel staff will do a quick city orientation for you that
should get you just about anywhere.  BUT, this is a very
popular hostel these days, and many days there is no room
left by afternoon, so you can either get a hotel room or
go to some other hostel in a less convenient location.
This is not all bad -- quite a few travelers get a perfect
excuse for a ferry ride to rural King County, since one
overflow option is the Vashon Island Youth Hostel.  To get
there from the downtown hostel you walk a few blocks to
the downtown ferry terminal and take a passenger-only
ferry to Vashon.  If the bus is still running when you get
to Vashon it will take you most of the way to the hostel,
otherwise you should easily be able to hitch a ride.  I
think the hostel may also have a shuttle car sometimes,
but I don't know the details.
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