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In rec.motorcycles, chrisp@tatanka.wr.tek.com (Chris Perez) writes:


>"What's that sound, dad?"                    	 Christopher "Groucho" Perez
>"Ducatis running wide open in my mind..."        chrisp@amadeus.WR.TEK.COM
>"Dad, you're weird!"
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Chris, I love it.  I've always thought my son telling me I was weird was
the greatest compliment I could ever get from him.  And then there
was the time he brought a friend over to watch me do something, turned
to his friend and said, "see, I told you he was weird!"  Nirvana!

Scott Turner  scott@hpisla.LVLD.HP.COM
HP VXI Systems Division
From: mfstorer@rudy.rutgers.edu (Michael Storer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Honda Pacific Coast??
Keywords: Honda, Should I?
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:10:10 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



Last night I was visiting the local Honda dealership pricing out the 
replacement components for the recently digested valve train of my 85
VF700 Interceptor, when I noticed that they had a few 90 Pacific Coast
leftovers lying around.  They informed me that Honda was selling them for
$5,500, with a 3 year warranty.  I have been considering the purchase of
a commuting/touring machine for a while, and was wondering if anyone has
had any experience with this particular model.  If anyone out there does
own one, how much did you pay?  How does it rate?  

Thanks in advance,

mike
From: chrisp@tatanka.wr.tek.com (Chris Perez)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: motorcycle from "Black Rain"
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:40:38 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc

In article <1992Apr15.153442.28471@cs.dal.ca> candrlic@ug.cs.dal.ca (Trevor Matthew Candrlic) writes:
>In article <1992Apr14.001457.26171@ccsd.uts.EDU.AU> eugene@uts.EDU.AU (R Rosen) writes:
>>What bike does Michael Douglas ride in "Black Rain" ?

>I think it's a H-D 883 Sportster. Could be wrong.

Yup.  The bike was a HD XLCR.

Christopher "Groucho" Perez - Proprietor of Groucho's Desmodrome & Club House
                  Motorcycling:  Still just for Ducatis
From: kens@hplsla.hp.com (Ken Snyder)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 17:20:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Kill a Biker, Go to Jail. NOT!!!
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

ashaw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (andrew.shaw) writes:
> From article <1992Apr3.003313.6485@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu>, by dabowsky@uokmax.ecn.uoknor.edu (Kamron):
> [unfortunate story of biker friend killed when car pulled out in front]
> >    Anyway, the driver claimed the same lame story as everyone else,
> >    "It was an accident, I didn't see her.."
> 
> Why is it a lame story?  Do you think the driver deliberately tried
> to kill her?  Accidents *do* happen.  For this reason motorcycles are
> known to be dangerous.
> 
    It is a lame story because in some countries excuses "I didn't
see them" and "Hey I was drunk" are allowable excuses for killing
someone.  An "accident" is something that happens even after all
reasonable precautions are taken.  I read a study several years ago that
tried to determine why car/bike accidents were more frequent in some
countries (particularely the US) than others (Germany/Italy mainly).
What the study boiled down to was that in countries where "I didn't see
them" was a perfectly valid excuse for killing someone, the drivers
didn't look for motorcyclists because there was no consequence.  In
other countries where if you kill you go to jail/lose your driving
priveleges the rate was much lower.  The study also took into
consideration things like higher numbers of bikes making people more
aware etc.  The conclusion was that the US should improve driver
training to make drivers more alert and disallow the use of "I didn't
see them" as an excuse in the legal system.  You all know how well the
study results were adopted.

    To me, "I didn't see the motorcycle" has exactly the same validity
as "I was drunk so I'm not responsible."  These statements are just
another manifestation of the shitty "I'm not responsible" attitude that
prevails in the US.

Oops, I'm calm, I'm calm...

Ken `2 wheels good' Snyder (responsible for my own actions)
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From: karish@mindcraft.com (Chuck Karish)
Subject: Re: Some Simple Questions
Summary: ignition
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:43:47 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.151903.20823@ohrd.uucp> ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu
(Jody Levine) writes:
>
>Timing adjustments take care of when the spark fires in the cycle. This is
>handled by a distributor. Points take care of the charging/discharging
>of the coil, or how to get the power to the plugs.

Nope.  Points control when the coil is discharged to cause
a spark.  Points dwell also controls how long the coil can
recharge.  This is all done by switching the low-tension
circuit of the coil.  The abrupt collapse of the magnetic
field in the low-tension circuit as the points close (or
open, depending on the design) causes a pulse on the
high-tension side of the coil.

On engines that use one single-output coil for several
cylinders, the distributor rotor controls which plug the
spark goes to.  The rotor does not control timing.

	Chuck Karish		karish@mindcraft.com
	Mindcraft, Inc.		(415) 323-9000
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From: tbb@sumac02.cray.com (Todd Blachowiak)
Subject: Re: Electronic countermeasures
Originator: tbb@sumac02
Keywords: help
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:33:33 CDT


In article (William E. Johns) writes:
> I like my Solo radar detector, I really do.  My Solo, which I have named
> _The Ear of God_, has given me good service and has picked up signals
> around corners and curves and over hills and such--I am delighted.
> I just really dislike the ear-plug to use it.  I like riding bikes
>
>  ....deleted electronic solution...
>

 I ran across a guy who used fish aquarium tubing to carry the sound from his
 radar detector to his helmet. He had a quick connect attached to his tank bag.
 He claimed it worked really well. The tube carried the sound right up to his
 helmet. Looked very clean and with clear tubing it was hard to see. If anyone
 tries this post the results, please. I don't speed, so I don't need a radar
 detector:-)


-- 
Take care,
Todd Blachowiak
"Anybody who does things with a motorcycle that I don't do is a SQUID,
anybody who doesn't do the things I do is inexperienced"
From: ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: DoD number
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:45:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.4dt92o_00WBK45llMD
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

O, great Kot[Look, you can't kill me now.  Please?], thank you for my
DoD number.  It is the roundest of all round numbers, it is the roundest
number I have ever had.  I was going to have it tatooed over my heart
but then realized that it was so so wonderfully, uniquely ovate that I
had an obligation to share it with the world.  So, I have had the first
two digits permenantly penned on my left check and the last two on my
right.  Now, when I drop trow to show respect to you and the world at
large, it is there for all to see.


                               10 0 00

Thank you again for bestowing your shinging benificence upon me.

Peter
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From: alastair@Cadence.COM (Alastair Young)
Subject: Re: RE: WHAT TO CALL A HA
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:56:26 GMT

In article <3263.89.uupcb@chaos.lrk.ar.us> dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams)  writes:
>->      Rotax is alive and well.  Are they American?
>
> Jeez, I dunno.  Old CanAm and Penton dirt bikes used Rotax engines.
>I don't remember if the Rotax engines were Canadian or German.  Anyone
>go back that far?
>                                            

Rotax are Austrian. They are alive and well. Their 500cc motorcycle 
engine has appeared in Armstrong, Jawa and Matchless machines and most 
recently in an MZ. They make loadsa other engines too for lawnmowers 
etc etc.


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Subject: cmsg cancel <1992Apr10.204338.1731@nic.csu.net>
From: rbp@sutro (Robert B. Pasker)
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:48:14 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: San Francisco State University

This message was cancelled from within rn.
-- 
- bob pasker
  San Francisco State University
  Department of History
  rbp@sutro.sfsu.edu
From: tjc@uniplex.co.uk (Tim Clarke)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What do we call Harleys?
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:54:48 GMT
Reply-To: tjc@uniplex.UUCP (Tim Clarke)
Organization: Uniplex Limited, Redwood House, Hemel Hempstead


Harly Davidson  -> Hardly Driveable
From: mikel@berlioz.nsc.com (Michael G. Lohmeyer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Honda CB550 info?
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:01:50 GMT
Organization: National Semiconductor Corporation

In article <1992Apr8.190300.5518@mindcraft.com> karish@mindcraft.com (Chuck Karish) writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.141226.17259@Firewall.Nielsen.Com>
>ccullen@ops-2.Naitc.Com (Carolyn Cullen) writes:
>>Any info on the Honda CB550K? (i know there is a K, F, and just
>>550, but dont know the difference)
>
>I think the F and the K are identical except for cosmetic
>parts (tank, pipes, seat).  I don't think there's a third type.
>This model was a 500 for the first two years it was sold.

     As far as I have seen the K or F signifies different model years
too.  Or at least, my '73 CB500 is a CB500K2, and the '72 CB500 is not 
a K model or it is a 500K only, for example.  When I go to get parts for
my bike, I use to always tell them a 73 CB500 and the looked it up in a
book they have that told them the specific mode.

>>Specifically a '77, as in,
>>availability of parts, how easy to work on, any model-specific
>>quirks, etc?
>
>They're pretty easy to work on and pretty reliable.
>Reasonably light weight and easy to ride, too.
>Gutless at low RPM and pretty good when the engine
>is really spinning.  Just like many modern sport bikes.

     If the CB500 is anything like the CB550 (which I think they are since
my service manual is for both, '72 to '77 or '78), then I am glad you 
said this.  This is exactly how my bikes engine reacts.  I thought it was
just because it is really old.

     I have done several things to my CB500 over the last couple months
(it didn't run 5 months ago), including disassemble and clean all four
carbs, new tires, electrical probems, clean up the front brake, tune up,
etc.  It has all been easy.  The hard part is buying some of the parts if
you need very many.  So far I have been doing good on parts, though.

>Some examples of the early models had a problem with the
>rocker shafts.  I think this was fixed for the 1977 or 1978
>model year.  If the valve cover has four nuts on top next
>to each of the four rocker shafts, you're looking at the
>fixed version.  The symptom I had to deal with on my '75
>was that the valves would go out of adjustment in 100
>miles.  The fix cost $100 and took me about two hours:
>remove gas tank, remove old valve cover, move rocker arms
>to new valve cover, install new valve cover, adjust
>valves.

     Where did you hear about this?  I would be interested in getting more
details about it.

Mike
-------------
Mike Lohmeyer				mikel@berlioz.nsc.com
National Semiconductor Corporation	Santa Clara, CA
(408) 721-8075
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From: pdh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Phillip D. Heaven)
Subject: Re: LICENSES
Reply-To: pdh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Phillip D. Heaven)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 10:01:12 GMT


In a previous article, cnap01@vaxa.strath.ac.uk () says:

>
>What is the best (easiest, cheapest) state to get a motorbike licence in?

Okay, I understand wanting to know about the cheapest licence, but the
EASIEST?!  Doesn't that kind of defeat the purpose of testing skills.
If you can't ride well enough to pass any and every test, IMHO, you
shouldn't be licenced at all! In fact, I'm in favor of a nationally
standardized rider test, and tiered licencing. The reason we have 
licencing tests is to keep unskilled (read "dangerous"), wanna-be
cyclists off the road, so I don't feel someone should be able to sneak
their way onto the road by finding an easier test.

-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------
Phil Heaven                          '82 Suzuki GS450L
Sigma Alpha Mu                        DoD#533
CaseWesternReserveUniversity          "Captain Hormone"
From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Info on Yamaha Vision?
Date: 16 Apr 92 08:30:40 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1992Apr15.172109.9092@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, pdh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Phillip D. Heaven) writes:
> 
> Looking at a 1982 Yamaha Vision 550, 12K miles, excellent
> condition, new battery, new tires, new pro. tuneup, $1,800.
> Sound like a good deal?
> 
> How long did Yamaha make the Vision? (or is it still in 
> production?) Are parts easy to get? How about maintenance?
> It's a shafty, if they all weren't. Also how comfortable is
> it on a 300+ mile day?
> 
> Would be buying it from a salesman, who never rode it, therefor
> can't get these answers there.
> 
> Any knowledge on this bike is greatly appreciated. 
> Thanks!


I loved my Vision, but the price you quote is way too high.  Brand new 
Visions (non-current models) went for around $1200 in 1985.  This was one 
of the all-time great buys in motorcycle history, at least in my book. 
My guess on the blue book value is $600-700, but go check it out 
at a bank for yourself.
................................Dr. Doom
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From: sybok@m4-035-2.MIT.EDU (The Terminator)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,rec.sport.basketball.college,talk.politics.guns,soc.motss
Subject: Re: FREE MAGAZINE OFFER FROM A NY COMPANY.
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:48:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr15.214825.19627
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <1992Apr15.205118.16580@ichips.intel.com> mfisch@ichips.intel.com writes:
>In article <1992Apr15.175534.6775@tellab5.tellabs.com>, rgarg@tellabs.com (Rajesh Garg) writes:
>|> 
>|> 
>|> This does not belong in this group & should not be posted.
>|> 
>
>  Don't you read Cycle World or Motorcyclist ????

Nope.  Just "American Rifleman," "Guns & Ammo," "Handgunner," "Guns," and
"Damn you to Hell, HCI."
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: risks of motorcycling vs experience
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:37:11 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 22738@cs.ucla.edu, coleman@rocky.cs.ucla.edu (Mike Coleman) writes:
>trouble, and that most riders don't get much practice in crashing which might
>help them to do it more safely.

Let's keep it that way!  (BTW - neither do cagers)

>For an experienced rider, it seems like (1) could drop down near a comparable
>figure for motorists, but (2) will always be much higher.

I would think (1) should drop WAY below that for cages, given the
superior handling and acceleration, and just general squeeze-by-ability
of the motorcycle.

---
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  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
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Subject: Re: FJ's and GS's are still neck & neck!
From: rbp@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Bob Pasker)
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:59:58 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: San Francisco State U. -- Dept. of History

In article <1992Apr15.125319.1769@nic.csu.net> rbp@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Bob Pasker) writes:
>GS
>-----------------------------------------------
17.David Mischel        dm@genie.gene.com

i'll never get used to these brain dead programs that ignore the last
line in the file if it does not have a <cr> after it :-(  and people 
actually *like* this????

-- 
-- bob pasker 
-- rbp@sutro.sfsu.edu 
-- not speaking for: San Francisco State -- Dept. of History
From: jearls@luke.eecs.wsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: O.K., HOW ABOUT DOD MOUSE
Date: 16 Apr 92 19:31:36 GMT
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Apr16.175329.20280@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> ttmech@convx1.lerc.nasa.gov (Paul Mech) writes:
>In article <1992Apr16.160902.7043@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>>
>>True, Real Men (tm) use trackballs.
>
>No, Real Men (tm) use the arrow keys.  None of these sissy interfaces!
>

  ARROW KEYS, we don' neeed no steenkeen arrow keys!
  
  True Real Men (tm) use H, J, K, and L to move the cursor around the 
  screen.  Only a real wuss would use anything other than vi.



-- 
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|Jeff Earls  jearls@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu | DoD #0530  KotTG  WMTC #0002  SF3.17 |  
|'89 FJ1200 - Millennium Falcon ------+ "Hit the button Chewie!"... Han Solo |
|'86 VF500F - Anti-Christ             |                                      |
From: tavares@earl.ctron.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Cross US trip (NH to CO/UT)
Date: 16 Apr 92 18:26:46 GMT
Reply-To: tavares@earl.ctron.com ()
Distribution: na
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.
Originator: tavares@earl


My wife and I were thinking of taking a cross country trip this summer.

We were thinking of going from New Hampshire to The Rockies.
We would like to visit Colorado, Utah, Wyoming, Montana, Arizona.

I want to see UTAH and COLORADO area with an eye to possible relocation.
My wife wants to see Wyoming and Montana, also with an eye toward relocation.
(I'll talk her into UTAH yet!.)

We would both like to see the crand canyon, The rockies, Cross the rockies
in 1 of the passes (Donner, LOVELAND)


I have several questions.

1. We got a recommended route from AAA which take us through PA on Highway
80 ( or is it 84). Anyway, i remember a VERY LONG AND TERRIBLE PEICE of this
highway going through PA. A friend drove his car from Denver to NH and took
84(80?) as far as Illinois and then went North to Chicago and took
Rt 90 east by Buffalo and through New York. He said the reason that he went
this way was because people told him the this was a much better road.

Any Comments?

2. We were going to pack our sleeping bags and our little 3man tent and camp
whenever weather permits. We obviously cant take alot of gear as well as 
clothing. We cant take a stove and utensils, so we were looking for net
wisdom on stuff we absolutely should take and stuff that we should take
if we have room. We figured on taking 3 or 4 changes of clothing max and 
hitting the local laundromat when necessary.

3. Could anyone offer suggestions of things to see/do in CO UT WY AZ MO(ntana)

We would be going in July/August timeframe.

I also would like the number and any other info you might have on 
Motorcycle clubs. I have a BMW 83 R80ST and i heard something about a BMW
motorcycle club. I have also seen reference to AMA.

Could someone send me info on membership fees and services and a contact 
number for any clubs that they know about


Thankx

Jack Tavares
tavares@ctron.com

83 R80ST	my pride and joy bike
87 Savage	my wife's pride and joy bike
79 KZ400 LTD    my for sale and joy bike
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Jack Tavares     tavares@ctron.com
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From: cookson@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (Dean Cookson)
Subject: Master link clips
X-Post-Machine: victoria.scl.cwru.edu
Organization: Smith Undergrad Lab, CWRU, Cleve. OH
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 22:58:50 GMT


Well, the master link clip on my new chain has flown off into the ether.
When this subject went 'round a month or so ago, someone had a trick
for keeping the clips in place, but I can't remember what it was.  Can
someone refresh my memory?

Thanks,
Dean

ps. 2 days in the 60's?  must be spring...

--
| Dean Cookson / DoD #207        / "You don't make beer, you get everything  |
| Case Western Reserve University   / together as best you can, and let the  |
| Dept. of Computer E. and Science     / beer make itself"  -- Fritz Maytag  |
| Cleveland, Oh. 44106 / (216) 754-1834   / '81 CB750C / '88 Bianchi Limited |
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Subject: Re: Caught my eye...
From: rbp@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Robert B. Pasker)
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:32:00 PDT
Distribution: na
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <1992Apr13.132910.23674@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>===========================
>CHANG JAING '41 Chinese war
>bike w/sidecar, BMW, many
>extras.  Exc.  COnd.  $5500.
>      708-246-8588.
>===========================

the guy who imports these lives here in the BA.  i met him at a swap
meeet. the bikes are r60s with cast iron engines, (i believe) mfg'ed
in china.  they look really shoddy.  i dont know how they ride.  here,
they're $5500 new.

-- 
- bob pasker   rbp@sutro.sfsu.edu
  San Francisco State University -- Department of History - I speak for me.
From: jbaum@baumer.East.Sun.COM (Jeff Baum - SSE Sun Washington, DC.)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Liberty Radar Detector
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:06:32 GMT
Reply-To: jbaum@baumer.East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: baumer.east.sun.com

I'm in the market for a radar detector and May's issue of cycle world has an ad for the liberty mc radar detector. Supposedly this thing is being discounted by the manufacturer from $329 to $99. Does any have any experience with this product good or bad.



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From: jet@karazm.math.uh.edu (J Eric Townsend)
Subject: phil stone or laurie abbott -- send me email
Organization: /home/karazm/jet/.organization
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:52:08 GMT


Sorry to broadband like this.

I've lost both of your email addresses and I'd like to bug you with
some questions about commuting in the bay area.
thanks...

--
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