From: rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers)
Newsgroups: news.admin
Subject: Re: Spin doctor strikes again
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:12:48 GMT
Organization: Memes-R-Us
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shibumi@turbo.bio.net writes:

>>How many engineers did you have under you, Kenton ... ?

>I guess this is a case of 'if you've seen one tree you've seen them all'.  
>Your knowledge of the Well as it is today, or was two years ago, are both 
>inaccurate.

Dear boy, this was eight years ago. Maybe seven.

How many engineers did you have under you, Kenton ?

>You might have noticed that the article you are quoting from was canceled.

Didn't notice. Does that mean you withdraw your comments ?

>I'll cut to the chase here: I'd heard alot of nasty things about you.

Saves me the trouble of convincing you.		(-:

I'd still like to know which well-known newspaper writer wrote about bandy's
antics on the Well. Obviously, I'm not the first to find his antics abusive.

And I'd still like this list of well-known Net personalities to come forth
and testify in bandy's favor. I suspect he neglected to fill them in on all
the details. I wonder why.

>However, I now have to say that your behavior and statements make it quite 
>clear that the 'hearsay' is correct -- you are both extremely childish and 
>factually inaccurate.  You accuse Andy of having some sort of 'vendetta' 
>against you -- in fact, you accuse many people of having vendettas against 
>you -- and argue that you are just revealing him for the true person that he 
>is.  The only person you seem to have revealed anything about here is yourself. 
Ho, hum. More character assassination. I'm a character, my mom's been tell-
-ing me that for decades. Nothing new. I'm no conformist, that's for sure.

>I think that you set these situations up, so that you can have an opportunity
>to express the anger you have bottled up at others who are 'persecuting' you.
>I hope that you have gotten whatever it was you were looking for here.

Right ... I coaxed bandy@catnip.berkeley.ca.us into violating the trust that
network access and netnews expertise imply and forcing his will down every-
-one's throats, did I. May I suggest a quick splash of RealityCheck(tm) ?

I'm satisfied that Andrew Scott Beals did everything I said he did years ago,
yes. I'm also satisfied that this is well enough established that nobody else
will ever have to undergo the abuse I did from indifferent individuals whom
accepted his statements at face value, and judged me on that basis alone.

In my perspective, a person who has lied consistently is pathological. Your
mileage may differ. You may consort with whom you please. But you shouldn't
try to intimidate or shame me into not sharing my experience with everyone
else who's been abused, as they will need to know what's going on if they're
going to respond intelligently to the complex, but essentially abusive, prac-
-tices which bandy represents.

'Nuff said.


-- richard

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