HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tom@genie.slhs.udel.edu (tom)
Subject: Re: 48 Hours... let the cascade begin
Organization: The Lab Rats
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:58:31 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.062047.1435@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson) writes:
}In article <1993Jan7.123415.9113@linus.mitre.org> lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis) writes:
}[...]
}>One psychiatrist they interviewed stated that 3% of all users suffer a
}>"psychotic break."  I seriously doubt this.  How many people in the US have
}>tried LSD?  10%?  That would mean at least 0.3% of the population has gone
}>nuts at one time or another.   I think LSD use is much more likely to be
}>reported if it causes something notable like this, so the stats are off.

}Didn't Sidney Cohen do a similar study where he found a statistic more like
}1 out of 1000, and concluded that this 1 out 1000 had a history of 
}alcoholism/schizophrenia or something like that?  I believe this was
}mentioned in Lawrence, _The Case for Legalizing Drugs_.

according to something i xeroxed from a NIDA report published in 1982,
they estimated that 16 (+/-2) million people in the US had used LSD.
of course a lot has happened since then (for example the Grateful Dead
became the most popular band in the country around '86) and i would not
be surprised if the number has doubled or even tripled. i need to go
look it up again one of these days.
-- 
tom@udel.edu                                        ...!{gateway}!udel!tom
tom@genie.slhs.udel.edu           UDel: School of Life and Health Sciences

"Themes were useless; Destiny was here, and the foot pedals were bleeding."
From: bengay@deeptht.armory.com (Ben Gay)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Drug Testy
Date: 23 Jan 93 06:09:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Armory

Last week a FOAFOAFOAF of my cat Sam smoke some pot.  He's smoked said 
vegetation only 3 times in his life and doesn't intend to increase the 
frequencey of such events - unless of course it's free.  But that's not the
point.  Two days after his latest experience he received a job offer.  A
lovely in-dire-need-of excellent paying job offer, the only problem with 
which is that they require you to pass a drug test before being hired. 
Now I know this has been talked about in deptht but you tend not to notice
such things when they don't pertain to you.  So please please if anybody 
knows of a way to fix the test or if there's a FAQ on such matter, could you
send it my way?  My FOAFOAFetc would be most grateful.

oh, pertinent info:  test will be a urine analysis approx. 2 - 3 weeks after
having smoked 2 - 3 hits.  how long does this stuff stick with you?

annnnd, are the test results shared only by tester and testy or is this in 
someway publicly accessable?
From: loweaa@o231-23.Rose-Hulman.Edu. (Anthony A Lowe)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Caffine Depressant?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 06:46:47 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
NNTP-Posting-Host: o231-23.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In alt.drugs article <kfKms4qSMUE4RnKkJn@transarc.com> you wrote:
> I used to only drink one cup of coffee a day with the occasional social  
cup
> after dinner, like maybe once a month.  Then I started working in  
industry
> and going to work by 8:00 a.m., and I've taken to having a second cup of
> coffee sometime in the afternoon.  I probably have two cups two out of  
three
> days.
> 
> Okay, here's the question.  I'm pretty sure that disregarding other
> variables, 1/3 to 1/2 the time the second cup of coffee puts me right to
> sleep.  I mean literally, I have to take a nap in my office for about 30
> minutes.  Does anyone know of any study backing these observations?  Of
>



	Well now I can see where the problem is. It has nothing to do with  
the caffeine at all. It is actually a let down from the caffeine. You get  
an artificial high from caffeine so after the caffeine is used there is  
nothing left to energize you so you get tired. It works the same way with  
sugar. The both are defiantly stimulants.

Any Questions?

loweaa@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: Robitussin
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:33:54 GMT

In article <C1Bpn5.Do8@news.cso.uiuc.edu> domnatr@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kane) writes:
>From what I hear, the DMB (I'll settle for calling it that
>for now) acts as a substrate, collecting on the surface of
>the brain (much like alcohol does, now that I think about
>it) and subtly altering the pathways of synaptic transmissions

Yup, you got a lot of brain-oriented words in there.  I don't
know how dextromethorphan works either, but I don't try to
explain it on the net.

>As an aside, I've also heard that lysergic acid diethylamine
>works in much the same way, but is caustic (read:  poisonous
>and/or corrosive) to the cells involved,

I heard that acid contains high levels of plutonium-666, because
it's extracted from mushrooms that are fertilized with plutonium
fertilizer, because it makes them grow two meters high and glow so
they're easier to find.  The plutonium-666 collects in neurons and,
when it reaches critical mass, makes them explode.  But that is by
no means officially documentable information... just something to
think about.

>Kane
>domnatr@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: domnatr@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kane)
Subject: Robitussin
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 20:16:16 GMT

I have a lot of friends who take this (in 4 to 6 oz doses)
And I have compiled this data from them --

1>  The 'trip' combines some of the mellow feelings from MJ
    and a lot of the physical disorientation of alcohol

2>  It typically lasts about 8 or 9 hrs (not surprising
    considering the time a normal dose keeps you well)

3>  Physical motion (of any sort) is really drawn out and
    enjoyable [all the users I've talked to agree on this]

4>  There is only a slight physical weariness associated
    the next day, a little less severe than that occurring
    after a trip.

I haven't tried this myself as I'm pretty sure it would
taste awful... however I've seen it enough now to attest
to its effectiveness.  Everybody here calls it 'robin'
as in, "It's only Robin', man", and, if it's any good, 
I would dare say it's a pretty economical alternative...

The Robitussin has to be the DM variety however...
(dimethyl...bromine is the active ingredient... just look
on the back of the bottle) 

From what I hear, the DMB (I'll settle for calling it that
for now) acts as a substrate, collecting on the surface of
the brain (much like alcohol does, now that I think about
it) and subtly altering the pathways of synaptic transmissions
going across the affected area(s), which often include
optical and audial perceptory centers and motion-control
functions.  

As an aside, I've also heard that lysergic acid diethylamine
works in much the same way, but is caustic (read:  poisonous
and/or corrosive) to the cells involved, and that after a
good many uses (I dunno, maybe 50 or 100) you will begin to
lose the pertinent brain functions at an exponential rate as
the number of afflicted cells (unable to receive transmissions)
grows steadily, thus altering more transmissions.  But that is
by no means officially documentable information... just
something to think about.

But this Robitussin DM thing bears some discussion.
And for $3 a trip, how can you lose?

_________________

Comments welcome via email or post --

Kane
domnatr@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

_________________





Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.tasteless,alt.conspiracy,rec.pyrotechnics
From: etlanar@yogi.ericsson.se (Chops)
Subject: Re: The Anarchist Cookbook
Organization: Ericsson Cellular Division
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:53:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.051025.21440@bongo.tele.com> julian@bongo.tele.com (Julian Macassey) writes:
>
>ObTasteless: Any meal eaten in Glasgow.
>
>

Hoi! Whats tasteless about meat eaten in Glasgow??!!


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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: Dr. Seuss <joey@leland.stanford.edu>
Subject: SEX DRUGS ROCK AND ROLL
Organization: Bearers of Truth
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.0
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 03:44:32 GMT


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: 48 hours show on LSD, important que
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:21:16 GMT

In article <2B5B2838.12123@ics.uci.edu> honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig) writes:
>Another source of error is that people notice changes more after taking
>drugs.  One notices the debris in the jelly in one's eyes (floaters), one
>notices more how memory and association work, etc.

I ran across a case report of someone who after some LSD use
reported that she was persistently disturbed by the transparent
noses on either side of the binocular visual field.  This sort of
thing, like noticing floaters, appears to take place at a high
level, after visual processing has been done.  "Post-hallucinogen
visual disorder" seems a misnomer; "Post-hallucinogen worrying"
seems more accurate.  I don't mean to unduly belittle this problem,
but it doesn't sound as if it's the "visual disorder" that "experts"
describe it as.

>David Honig

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: braindl@uhura.aston.ac.uk (David Brain)
Subject: Re: Marijuana and Vitamin C synergy?
Organization: Aston University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL241235]
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:13:21 GMT

/dev/high (an2531@anon.penet.fi) wrote:
: cklausme@jarthur.claremont.edu (Chris Klausmeier) asks about hemp
: and ephedrine.
: 
What is the status of ephedrine in Britain...just curious.

===============================================================================
|David Brain at Aston University (Comp. Sci.)     Braindl@uk.ac.aston.uhura   |
|     "The only trick I can remember now is turning butterflys into worms"    |
============================The Triffids=======================================
From: cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Anyone else watch the Simpsons?
Date: 22 Jan 93 23:29:28 GMT
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
Organization: SGI TechPubs


In article <93021.193239U21187@uicvm.uic.edu>, U21187@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
|What I want to know is ...
|Where do I get some of that boat-ride water!

I was hoping for a parody Space Mountain... woof!
Excellent show.

---
C J Silverio	cj@sgi.com	ceej@well.sf.ca.us
``Is it really true that strychnine typically contains small traces 
of LSD?  I want to poison somebody but I wouldn't want them to die
tripping.'' -- John C. Baez
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: Codeine and 222's
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:57:52 GMT

cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black) writes:

>In article <19835@mindlink.bc.ca> Dave_Watson@mindlink.bc.ca (Dave Watson) writes:
>>
>>Is there any simple way of extracting the 8mg of codeine out of over the
>>counter (In Canada) 222's, which also contain 15 mg caffeine and around 325
>>mg of either ASA or Acetaminophen?   If it's of chemical importance (or means

cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black) writes:
>    Nope.

Well, it is rather difficult to cleanly separate the codeine from the caffeine
in your kitchen.   However, separating the caffeine and codeine from the aspirin
(ASA to those of you living in countries that still respect Bayer's trademark).
Aspirin is practically insoluble in cold water.  Codeine phosphate and caffeine are
both quite soluble.  Simply dissolve the tablets in boiling water and allow to
cool very slowly (over night).  The aspirin will crystalize out forming nice
long needles leaving the codeine and caffeine behind in solution.  

While having twice as much caffeine as codeine may be a problem, think of it as 
a built-in protection against addiction.  There is no way to increase the dose of
codeine beyond a certain point without risking serious xanthine toxicity.
Tolerance to opiates develops much more cleanly than to xanthines.  

Keep in mind that what I said applies only to ACC tables containing aspirin.
Do not attempt this with tablets containing acetaminophen!  Acetaminophen is 
quite a bit more soluble in water than aspirin.  Eating large quantities of 
acetaminophen daily can cause *serious* renal and hepatic complications!  

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From: aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: YOU FUCKERS
Date: 28 Jan 1993 08:11:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aoo@po.CWRU.Edu (Akinwale O. Olugbile)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc12.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, nwoodard@dante.nmsu.edu (WOODARD) says:

>I am getting sick of hearing all you druggies encouring kids to use
>drugs. Its bad enough that you are using crack and heroin, cousting us
>honest taxpayers billions in crime and medicine. But you want to ruin
>the future of our kids as well!
>
>There is obviously one solution to you drug f**kups. We need to throw
>anyone caught using drugs out of the country. Revoke all citizenship,
>and forbid one step back into this country. If you do return, punish
>by death. (Lethal injection - how appropriate)
>
>This country is going to hell. And it is all you f**kers fault!
>
>
>
>Drug Free and PROUD of it.
>
uuhh I feel a flame coming on......
You mister Woodward, with no dick, who dares to insult this usenet  group who
are legally supporting their beliefs. You sir, and I use that term loosly,
should keep his stupid mouth shut. You must have had many problems in your
life so some of us will forgive your ignorant ravings about taking citizenship, 
and shooting people up with drugs. In other words Mr. Woodward you are a fucker 
for wishing anything so insane upon your fellow human beings. And as Lao Tzu
said: 	One who knows does not speak;
	One who speaks does not know.
-- 
One can only truly appereciate moderation until they have experinced excess!
Death to the weakling! Wealth to the strong!
disclaimer:===> This is all a lie and I don't believe a word of it......!!!
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.tv.simpsons
From: saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure)
Subject: LSD reference in the Simpsons
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Reply-To: saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:00:49 GMT


Anybody catched the LSD reference in the Simpsons yesterday (was yesterday
for me here in Canada anyway, I dunno in the states when it played?).

Lisa drank some 'beer' in the amusement park tunnel, and sees tracers, 
hallucinations, proclaims to be 'The Lizard Queen'...

Funny what they can get away with in cartoons these days.

-- 

 Signed,                 "You must never sleep, never daydream,    
   Roch Saumure.             never be without a vital thought and     
                                never have an open mind, then you shall  
                                   be protected from the forces of Magic."   


DISCLAIMER: All opinions expressed are my own.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: eesnyder@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Eric E. Snyder)
Subject: Re: morphine/heroin question
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:50:29 GMT

civl097@csc.canterbury.ac.nz writes:

>Heroin is  derived from morphine. It is di-acetyl morphine and was first
>synthesized in the 1870's and marketed by Bauer in the 1890's.

That would be Bayer.  ...one must give credit when credit is due :-).

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From: 891034d@axe.acadiau.ca (PETER DEARMAN)
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:10:22 GMT



My faves.

Of course Floyd.  But I'm pretty into noise bands.  I've had my mind blown 
before by Husker Du's album, Zen Arcade.  Other albums that reallyt did it 
for me are Sonic Youth (most anything but especially Daydream Nation, and 
the Ciccone Youth Whitey Album), Butthole Surfers (anything), Big Black (
Songs About Fucking).

There is also lots of techno that is so complicated that it is impossible to 
not be overwhelmed by.  I don't like techno that much normally though.  Al 
Jorgenson is in several techno bands that do the trick.

But of course Floyd.

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ktupper@fraser.sfu.ca (Kenneth William Tupper)
Subject: Exotic Places . . .
Keywords: India
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:11:48 GMT

	This past autumn I spent about a month and a half in northern
India, where _cannabis_indica_ grows wild.  I went first to Kashmir
where the war between the Kashmiri militant separatists and the Indian
government has evidently not harmed production of _charras_.  The buds
of the plants are not much good for smoking by themselves, but they
give a nice flavour when mixed with _charras_.  Funnily enough, most
of the Europeans I met there seemed to prefer a _charras_/tobacco mix;
even those who weren't nicotine addicts.  A _tolla_ (the local unit of
measurement, originally used by the Chinese for opium I was
told--about ten grams) of _charas_ cost between 120 and 250 rupees, or
4 to 9 US dollars.  A word of warning, though: it is very easy to get
carried away when hash is that cheap.  I smoked entirely too much
there.  Smoking anything in excess is harmful to one's lungs.

	The best stuff in India, however, is found in the Kulu valley
of the state Himachal Pradesh.  The whole town of Manali seems geared
toward catering to Western tourists there to smoke.  If you go in 
September you can roll your own _charras_ for free.  The prices are a
bit lower than those I mentioned above. 

        Both Kashmir and the Kulu valley are beautiful places in their own
right (regardless of the easy availability of the dope).  And cheap!
In Srinigar I stayed on a super-deluxe houseboat--I'm talking crystal
chandeliers, silk persian carpets, beautiful hand-carved wood
furniture, spacious living room and dining room, and butler-served
meals--for the all-inclusive price of 3 US dollars a night per person.
Of course, one has to put up with the nearby gunfire in the evenings,
but just smoke another chillum and all your worries are gone . . .

                                  --K.T.

   






Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: andersom@spot.Colorado.EDU (Marc Anderson)
Subject: Re: Marijuana/asthma
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:31:51 GMT

In article <panissec.727573939@bag_end> panissec@nms.otca.oz.au (Colin Panisset) writes:
>hp@floor.uucp.risc.net (High Priest) writes:
>
>}I have heard and read in this newsgroup that marijuana can cause some 
>}relief to asthma sufferers. I mentioned this to someone else, and he flat 
>}out called it false, and pretty much said I don't know what I'm talking 
>}about.
>}I realize there are many other better drugs to deal with asthma, but my 
>}question is not about them, so I would appreciate not being told about 
>}them.
>}Can smoking marijuana help asthma sufferers, and if so, how?
>
>Marijuana is a bronchial dilator. This means that the tubes in the lungs are
>enlarged when the smoke comes into contact with them. 
>
>Asthma is a bronchial contractor (as most people know). It would therefore
>seem evident that marijuana would have a benficial counteractive effect on
>asthma sufferers. However, you've got to take into account the factor that
>smoke of most kinds can trigger asthma attacks in sufferers, and that if
>the attack is severe, nothing short of specific medication can overcome it.
>
>As a result, I'd say that *possibly*, for sufferers of *mild* asthma, with a
>history of only *mild* or almost non-existent attacks, then marijuana smoke
>may help. Filtering and cooling the smoke through a bong (water pipe)
>would help, of course, but as always: Caveat Smoker.

to avoid the nasties of smoke, you can always also eat it (brownies or 
something).  of course, eating takes quite a bit longer for the THC to get
into your bloodstream.  

-marc 
andersom@spot.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: tdodson@hotcity.COM (Tim Dodson)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Date: 26 Jan 93 07:20:20 GMT
Organization: BBS

In article <1993Jan21.000434.34049@ux1.cts.eiu.edu>, cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
(Howard Black) writes:
>In article <1993Jan19.235944.46536@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
epasls@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
> writes:
>>
>>What are you talking about.  Why dont you try putting a sheet of acid in 
>>contact with your skin, then go to a concert and sweat a little for an 
>>hour.  If youd just do that then there would be one less person on the
>>internet(in the world) that I disagree with.
>
>    Right.  It is certainly possible that some LSD would be absorbed, but
>enough to make me "one less person on the internet"?  Please.
>-- 
>   ******************************************************************
>     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
>     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ. 
A sheet, meaning 100 doses even, would probably not kill him. I have heard that
Jim Morisson Once had a sheet of a hundred hits before a concert, (I wouldn't
doubt it's the truth) and he survived it, fucked him up bad, but he survived
it. Also theres the potentcyt involved, you can do ONE hit of weak shit and
hardly have a trip, you can do ONE hit of VERY POWERFULL acid and have it equal
to TEN hits of weak shit.