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From: jik@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan I. Kamens)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: mail servers and sendmail -- disk space vs. speed vs. file table trade-offs
Date: 7 Jan 1993 15:54:01 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: world
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In article <3584@aegis.or.jp>, davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:
|> Ralph Sims
|> <ralphs@halycyon.com> sent me a trick version of mini-inews that
|> didn't just send across the network to the real inews on the server,
|> but put the article to be posted in a 'printer queue' and then
|> returned to the user. The code is quite small (8K) and I could post
|> it here if you/anybody was interested.
|> 
|> Perhaps you could use something similar to queue the requests to 
|> sendmail.

When you've got users posting small numbers of messages from multiple client
hosts, this is fine.

However, all of the messages in this case are outbound messages from a single
host.  Sendmail already *has* the functionality you suggest, i.e., the queuing
delivery mode that I mentioned in my previous posting.  As I said before, I
can't really use that because if I do, a large number of requests in a short
period of time can fill the disks on my mail server.

I guess that if I wanted to *completely* parallel the news posting model you
suggest in my server, then I would have to set it up to refuse delivery of
incoming requests, at the sendmail level, when there aren't currently enough
resources to process the requests.  That's not really possible, because it's
not *possible* to know when there are going to be enough resources available to
process a request.  In the case of the request that caused me to notice this
problem in the first place, it was a single request that overwhelmed the
workstation, and I couldn't have known that the request would be
resource-consuming without parsing it and trying to deliver (since only then
would I have discovered the amount of data being transferred and possibly the
fact that the sender's SMTP server was very slow.

-- 
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Aktis, Inc.                                 Moderator, news.answers
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From: vulture@imperial.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Subject: Re: lp vs lpr
Reply-To: cmaae47@imperial.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 13:23:34 GMT

In article <1i89n4INN11s@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cq377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David C. Williss) writes:
- 
- I have a problem which I can't seem to make work.  I have a printer
- on one machine which is running SYSV (with lp for printing).  I
- also have a sun running BSD (lpr for printing).  My problem is that
- I can't seem to make the Sun talk to the SYSV system.  I think that
- the problem is on the SYSV end, because I _had_ the printer on an
- IBM RS6000 which also uses "lp".

Actually, no, AIX uses qprt, its own printing mechanism, with lp and lpr
access commands for compatibility.

lp, lpstat is what has been codified in th x/open (XPG3) standard, but 
it does not address printing across a network.

lpr, lpq, lpc, lpd, lprm are parts of the BSD printing system and address
networks, but have not been codified in a formal standard. IRIX
will only support lp interfaces for printers connected locally.

You could try to roll your own lpr package for IRIX, but for a solution
that works this Tuesday try the following on the Sun:

     rsh printiris -l lp lp -d myprinter < myfile

On IRIX there is a user lp (with no password by default). So the command 
above executes the lp command under the lp user on the Iris.
You may have to deal with such vagaries as PostScript text printing rather
then executing on the printer etc...

Once that works, you have some cleaning up to do, like creating a .rhosts
file for the user lp on the Iris, and disabling logins for that user, 
documenting the access, writing a wrapper that makes it look like lpr
on the Sun, ...

- Standards are great!  Everybody should have one of their own!

Yes, quite                          Thomas

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From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Login Name Administration & Conventions
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:21:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
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Erik Oliver (eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu) wrote:
: 	o mail is more easily sent since user names are standardized

This is what X500 or other directory implementations are supposed
to handle.  One of the troubles with standardized naming is that
at some point in a large population of users the naming convetnion
breaks down.  For example if you use last name with first and middle
initial concatenated then you find 3 people with the same combination
of name/initials.  It is basically the same problem you speak of
below.

: 	o in a _large_ setting with thousands of users, standardized
: 		names are easier to manage and remember.  Especially
: 		across different machines.  What if I was gonzo@ralph,
: 		but gonzo was already taken at the main machine...
: 		Then there might be confusion about mail sent
: 		to gonzo.

I used to manage over 12,000 user-ids on two machines (networked) and
we had very few troubles with duplicate names.  Few enough that it could
be handled easily on a case-by-case basis.

Like I've said before, it is a philosophical question for me.  I think
that whenever possible the computer systems should be made to fit
the user not the users fit the system.  In this sense enforcing naming
conventions establishes the wrong mindset.  I view system administration
as a service and as such it should *not* make any unnecessary restrictions
on the end user.  That is just bad service.
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From: dave@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Dave Pottinger)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Bulkloader??
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:44:07 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona

I am faced with the task of added 400+ users within the next day or two
to our Ultrix system.  Recently coming from VMS, I was mildly surprised
not to immediately find a program (we call ours a bulkloader) that would
add a bunch of accts non-interactively via a list of some sort.  Does
this exist anywhere in Unixland and might someone point me in the right
direction??  Thanks in advance.  If this is a FAQ, I apologize, but I
couldn't find it (does one exist for this group?).

dave
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From: dejesus@saturn.nwc.navy.mil (Francisco X DeJesus)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: passwd
Date: 8 Jan 93 20:38:30 GMT
Organization: Science Applications International Corp.

In article <1ikbatINNgl8@matt.ksu.ksu.edu> holland@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Rich Holland) writes:
>Does anyone know how to make passwd behave non-interactively?  We've tried
>(echo newpass ; echo newpass ) | passwd, but it wants the passwords to be
>typed in from the keyboard.  I need to do this in a script, to set up new
>account passwords...
>

If you have "tcl"/"expect" installed, you can use a short "expect" script
like:

spawn passwd username
expect "*New Password:"
send "newpass\r"
expect "*Re-type new password:"
send "newpass\r"

...or something like that.

Check archie for where to find tcl and expect, and you can read more about
them in comp.lang.tcl. Other options are discussed in the comp.unix.questions
FAQ (q# 3.9, last time I checked).
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From: vincent@cad.gatech.edu (Vincent Fox)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: yppasswdd daemon - Why can't I change my password?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 12:44:49 -0500
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology, CAE/CAD Lab
NNTP-Posting-Host: cae.cad.gatech.edu
Keywords: password passwd SUNOS daemon

In <1993Jan5.015559.3324@netcom.com> dsra@netcom.com (DRSA) writes:

>I just ran into an interesting problem the other day.
>After upgrading to SUN OS 4.1.2 on a SparcStation, my users were not
>able to change their passwords, and root was not able to change their
>passwords either.  It reported "no such user".  This problem will occur
>if you are using NIS (or YP).  The solution is that you need to start
>a yp password daemon in your rc.local file on the NIS server.  This is
>detailed in the man page on yppasswdd, near the bottom.

Also, yppasswdd was *still* not fixed right on 4.1.2. A number of
bugs in it and the whole C2 package existed. The one that burned me:
If any passwords have the character ":" you get a meaningless error
message and are unable to change the password for those accounts.
You can work around this on the server as root using
passwd -F /var/yp/src/passwd (or wherever you keep it) and doing make.

Preferably you can get the Sun patched version of rpc.yppasswdd.
100564-05 seemed to fix my problems. Should be available at
ftp.uu.net:/systems/sun/sun-dist/100564-05.tar.Z
From: st1y2@elroy.uh.edu (Gray, William W.)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Training users
Date: 5 Jan 1993 00:48 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1993Jan4.230449.3269@pacdata.uucp>, jimh@pacdata.com (Jim Harkins) writes...
>My boss wants me to give a 2-3 hour training session on using Unix more
>effectively.  I was wondering if any of you had already done such a thing and
>had some notes you could email me?  My user's have been using Unix for about
>1 year, half of them have workstations on their desks and the others use telnet.
>Most of them don't seem to be willing to teach themselves, several still can't
>seem to grasp the man command.  It's truly amazing how someone can ask me
>a question, then watch as I type 'man foo', put my finger on the screen, and
>read off the answer!  Yet these people will be back in a day or two with

hehehehehehe, and have you ever been beeped on a Sunday afternoon becasue the President of your company can not seem to get his `personal` printer
working? Only to find out that he (as he calls himself a SUPERUSER)
forgot to plug the fraggen thing into a socket!

Or even better yet, users that can not seem to remember that 
rm -r *
is not a good thing to do to their files?


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From: herb@iiasa.ac.at (Herb HASLER)
Subject: Network Problems
Organization: IIASA, Laxenburg, Austria
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 12:48:02 GMT

I am looking for some advice or possible leads with a network problem we
are experiencing at our site.  We have about 8 sparcs, 1 dec 5000/200,
1 rs6000, 1 hp710 and 2 data general avions.  The problem is that I can
not get the decstation and the rs6000 to communicate (all machines are
on the same subnet) yet they can communicate (using ping) with every other 
machine and every other machine can communicate with them.

Any ideas on what the problem could be would be greatly appreciated.
(routing tables seem fine).

Herb Hasler
herb@iiasa.ac.at
International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis

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From: pjw@wacher.oz.au (Peter Williams)
Subject: Backing up a system over a TCP/IP network 
Organization: Wachers Pty Ltd
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:39:08 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

G'Day,

Has anyone out there have a shell script or some suggestions to how I can
backup my SCO UNIX machine to a tape drive on another SCO machine using a
TCP/IP network.

I have thought about the problem but any suggetions or code would be 
great help.

Thanks in advance.
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From: nedwall@panix.com (Ned Wall)
Subject: Hardware maintenance for 486 running SCO UNIX
Keywords: maintenance
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:29:24 GMT

The company I work for has purchased an AST Premium SE 4/50
running SCO UNIX. My level of UNIX understanding would best
be described as beginner (but willing to learn). Should I be
looking for a hardware maintenance vendor with a UNIX back-
ground or would a vendor from the PC/Novell world be OK?

Our hardware consists of the AST with duplexed disk drives,
tape backup, 2 16 port DigiBoards, 17 terminals and 3 PCs.

Thank you.

Ned Wall     nedwall@panix.com

Xref: sparky comp.unix.admin:7044 comp.sys.sun.admin:10236 comp.sys.sun.hardware:6814
From: mkatyal@mcl.bdm.com (Manju Dolly Katyal)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Extracting Security off of CD-ROM
Date: 12 Jan 1993 14:28:25 GMT
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: apollo.mcl.bdm.com

I has Sun OS 4.1.3 installed on a Sun Sparc 2. I would like to install
the C2 Security features without reinstalling the operating system. 
Is this possible?  

Also, I need the OS to prevent users from logging on, if they fail
to successfully logon after x number of attempts.  Is this feature
available with Sun's C2 Security? If not, any ideas on how to 
implement it?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.unix.solaris
Subject: Extracting Security off of CD-ROM
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: BDM International, Inc.
Keywords: 

I has Sun OS 4.1.3 installed on a Sun Sparc 2. I would like to install
the C2 Security features without reinstalling the operating system. 
Is this possible?  

Also, I need the OS to prevent users from logging on, if they fail
to successfully logon after x number of attempts.  Is this feature
available with Sun's C2 Security? If not, any ideas on how to 
implement it?
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: vulture@imperial.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Subject: Re: Login Name Administration & Conventions
Reply-To: cmaae47@imperial.ac.uk
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 14:33:16 GMT

In article <TNJWBXJ8@cc.swarthmore.edu>, eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver) writes:
- Well, in principle I agree that letting people call themselves what ever
- they want is nice, there is a usefullness in making account names
- meaningful:
- 	o mail is more easily sent since user names are standardized
- 	o you avoid needing to create policies about what sorts
- 	  of names are acceptable.
- 	o in a _large_ setting with thousands of users, standardized
- 	  names are easier to manage and remember.  Especially
- 	  across different machines.  What if I was gonzo@ralph,
- 	  but gonzo was already taken at the main machine...
- 	  Then there might be confusion about mail sent to gonzo.
- 
- Some solutions include having a mail routing host which allows any
- names you want and then forwards it to real names.

Yes, we do all that here, and in fact any scheme is easy to administrate
if it starts up with with a central administartion resolving overlaps
as they arise. It only gets difficult if there are several administration
centres that have grown in their own space to consolidate, if there are
migrations to systems with additional restrictions, or if people try to
solve other conflicts by being bone-headed on this particular issue. (We
had a lot of that). 

Thus I kept my regular name from a previous age (cmaae47), which was still
within the format parameters of our current one - five user chosen letters,
initials recommended, plus two system supplied digits if it is necessary to
resolve conflicts. My name is not even useable as a mail name because of 
spaces either side of the dash. The third name you find in this posting 
(vulture) is like that because it had to be outside the general scheme 
and fitted well with the machine name - a second hand computer.

It is often good to defuse any slanging matches by reminding people that
the question for the login name does not ask: "Who are you ?", but: 
"Under which account would you like this computer usage to be charged ?"

                                  Thomas

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From: st1y2@elroy.uh.edu (Gray, William W.)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Bulkloader??
Date: 6 Jan 1993 01:02 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1993Jan5.174407.18757@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, dave@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu (Dave Pottinger) writes...
>I am faced with the task of added 400+ users within the next day or two
>to our Ultrix system.  Recently coming from VMS, I was mildly surprised
>not to immediately find a program (we call ours a bulkloader) that would
>add a bunch of accts non-interactively via a list of some sort.  Does
>this exist anywhere in Unixland and might someone point me in the right
>direction??  Thanks in advance.  If this is a FAQ, I apologize, but I
>couldn't find it (does one exist for this group?).

Well, in the past I have written a script file that adds the
users, and that seems to work well. You might want to look into
that option


Z
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Is it safe to mount /usr/spool/mail?
Date: 5 Jan 1993 09:25:11 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.think.com

In article <1993Jan5.023200.23383@fcom.cc.utah.edu> efros@leopard.east-slc.edu (Alyosha Efros) writes:
>Before doing anything drastic I was wondering if it is safe to mount
>/usr/spool/mail from one machine to the others so all mail will be in one
>place. We are running Ultrix.

It's pretty safe if you only use this mount for *reading* mail.  You should
do delivery by having all the mailers forward to one host (probably the
host on which the /usr/spool/mail file system actually resides) rather than
deliver directly into /usr/spool/mail.  Otherwise you will likely run into
problems when multiple hosts try to deliver to a mail file simultaneously,
as many locking schemes don't work well across NFS.
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

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From: barryl@mongoose.tansu.com.au (Barry Lightbody)
Subject: Batch processing in Unix
Reply-To: barryl@mongoose.tansu.com.au
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:53:24 GMT

Does anyone know of a decent batch processing software.

I need to submit a variety of batch jobs in a variety of queues. Quite often 
inexcess of 200 jobs will be submitted into a single queue at a time.

Submitting then as background jobs will just cause unix to execute then one after
another. killing unix and the database server. In addition the order that they are
completed and printed at can not be guaranteed.

I can submit then under the at/batch commands. However batch appears to only allow
for a single queue and I need several. At can allow for a number of queue's but the
earlest it can start executing a job is now+1 minute, whereas if I submit a job to 
a queue and the queue is empty then it must start executing straight away.

Is there any way I can get at/batch to work the way I need, or can anyone suggest
some third party software?

With thanks
barryl



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From:  "Vladislav Akhmedov" <avg@gsrcc.msk.su>
Subject: NE2000 multicard driver. HELP!
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:02:38 GMT
Reply-To: avg@gsrcc.msk.su
Organization: unknown


Hi folks,

I have got a small problem with my ISC UNIX System V r.3.2 version 3.0.
I try to set UNIX LAN with UNIX NFS server and several DOS NFS (PCNFS)
workstations. Some of this wks are connected to one NE2000 of the UNIX
server and other ones to second NE2000 on the UNIX server. OK! I have got
UNIX server with two NE2000 cards. But UNIX have not multipcard driver for 
this adapter (only NE0 driver, no one NE1 or NE2 as Western Digital cards).
And file /etc/conf/pack.d/ne0/space.c has not structure declaration 
struct neparam neparams[NNE] = {
	...
	}
I have got some ideas about files /usr/include/sys/ne2k*.h, but i'm not 
sure, am i right or not.
If somebody knows anything of it, please tell me.
							Thanks in advance.
Vladislav Akhmedov, Russia, Moscov.
E-mail: avg@gsrcc.msk.su
	smm@gsrcc.msk.su
From: carl@asi.com (Carl Ellis)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Call back software
Date: 5 Jan 93 19:05:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: asi.1993Jan5.190531.19356
Organization: Adaptive Solutions, Inc.,  Beaverton Oregon


Does anyone know of any modem call back software for SunOS 4.1.x
as pertains to dialup logins. 

PD or commercial is OK.

Please respond via email

- Carl -
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From: john@synapse.bms.com (John Turner)
Subject: Exabyte 8500, trouble writing previous 8200 tapes
Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb PRI
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:59:45 GMT

I'm having trouble using 8mm tapes on an Exabyte 8500 tape drive that were
previously written to with an Exabyte 8200 tape drive on a Sun SPARC.
Essentially, all previously written tapes are only capable of being written
to in low density (~2.5GB), while brand new tapes can be written to in
high density (~5.0GB).  The SPARC is running SunOS 4.1.1.  The device is
/dev/nrst8.  The command is dump.  I also made changes to /usr/sys/sundev/
streg.h as recommended by Exabyte.

Any help would be appreciated.  I'd hate to buy all new tapes :-).

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From: douglas@rush.emc.trw.com (Douglas McHugh)
Subject: Establishing direct net acess.
Organization: TRW Space & Defense, Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:53:03 GMT

In short, I will be going to Kuwait and I would like to continue
using this net.  Do you know what steps are needed to establish
net acess or could you lead me in the right direction to seek help?

thank you


-- 
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douglas@tesla.emc.trw.com
TRW Inc. S-2470                (213) 812-4679
One Space Park, S-2470, Redondo Beach, California 90278   USA
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