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From: inde788@Rosie.UH.EDU (Ashish Parikh)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics,rec.sport.hockey.field
Subject: Field Hockey: Womens' Results
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:58:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: menudo.1992Jul28.035821.26185
Reply-To: inde788@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston

Australia	2	Canada	0
Germany	2	Spain	2
South Korea	5	New Zealand 0
Netherlands	2	Britain	1
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From: carson@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU 
Subject: Re: Barkley is a jerk...
Followup-To: alt.flame
Reply-To: carson@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU 
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:27:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.215338.27838@risky.ecs.umass.edu>,
bli@spock.ecs.umass.edu (Bo Li) writes:
|> I am not exactly a fan of Charles Barkley, but I would say most
|> likely Charles was just getting a little bit of emotional, like
|> he always is. It is not such a big deal except a very bad timing.
|> So I do not think he is a jerk for that matter.

	The problem is, when he gets emotional, he becomes
a jerk quickly. Bob Samuelson got emotional and cost his
team a win, and then the whole team got emotional and shaved
their heads, and that only made them look stupid.
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From: castillo@coco.cchs.su.oz.au
Subject: Re: Pelota?
Organization: Cumberland College of Health Sciences
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:49:44 GMT

In article <92194.135024MKK2@psuvm.psu.edu>, MKK2@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> Another post mentioned an Olympic Sport called Pelota.  What is it?

This sport is similar to Squash here in Australia.  It is normally plays
in an indoor setting...

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From: rsk@aspen.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Whitewater boating coverage?
Date: 30 Jul 92 11:46:55 GMT
Organization: Cardiothoracic Imaging Research Center

In article <1992Jul29.181732.57647@cc.usu.edu> slzm9@cc.usu.edu writes:
>   I only have access to NBC not PPV but would like to see all the whitewater
>boating I can. Will any whitewater canoeing or kayaking be on NBC?

Whitewater events are scheduled to be covered on NBC's broadcast this Saturday
night, with additional coverage in the Sunday morning and Sunday night slots.
Coverage is supposed to include K-1, K-1W, C-1, and C-2.

Having access to PPV wouldn't help: according to my local cable company,
there is no coverage of whitewater events in the PPV schedule.  Idiots!

---Rsk

"There is no such thing as an expert flatwater boater".
	---- William Nealy
From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage ...
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:53:54 GMT
Reply-To: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <1992Jul27.202411.7859@ecst.csuchico.edu> jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.154542.26682@javelin.sim.es.com> gfowler@javelin.sim.es.com (Gary Fowler) writes:
>>
>>Did anyone happen to catch the stupid comment made by one of the NBC announcers,during the parade of nations? It went something like this:  "The United States
>>will be coming up soon because they are using the French alphabet."  The last
>>time I checked, the French and English alphabets were pretty much the same.
>>The reason that the US followed Estonia was because they were going in alpha-
>>betical order according the French names.  United States = Etats Unies.  Pardon
>>the spelling, since I don't have a French-English dictionary with me.
>>
>
>One stupid comment?  I sat through an entire rendition of the New World Order
>according to George Bush as read by Bob Costas.  The neo-colonial world view
>was complete with lists of atrocities by each third world dictator (in lieu
>of actual sporting information about the marching atheletes) that has fallen
>out of favour with the state departement.  As expected, no mention of brutal
>dictatorships, such as Algeria, that have the blessings of the Order.
>Charles Barkeley's elbow is indeed very benign and innocent compared to this.
>
Too true. He just couldn't resist the obligatory digs at Cuba and
China, or tell us about domestic instability in some other country the
US happens not to like. Also, the little aside about how the Marines
had gone down to Grenada to "sort them out". And how "a major issue
with Vietnam was a full accounting of MIAs". Well, maybe it is, but 
wouldn't it have been rather more appropriate to tell us something
about their atheletes? 

If Costas had been consistent, he would have introduced the U.S. as
"the country that suffered deadly riots in one of its major cities a
few months ago".

As to the events themselves, my major complaints are (i) if an
American wins a medal, it's almost impossible to determine who
finished behind them; and (ii) there is little or no attempt to bring you
results from competitions that don't happen to be one of the very
small number that NBC are focusing on.

--
Colin Morris       Ingres, an ASK company       cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com

"And there'll be more football in a moment, but first we've got
 highlights of the Scottish League Cup Final" -- Gary Newbon
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From: alvstad@mari.acc.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad)
Subject: Just general...
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:20:38 GMT

Hi!!  Just some general thoughts about some comments made recently:

1)  First, I believe the John Williams music used by NBC was composed for the
1984 games, not the 1988 games (I played the piece in my band).

2)  I agree...Barkley is a jerk.  Also, concerning Petro, he picked up his 4th
foul early in the second half, was limited in his playing time, and was playing
really scared IMHO.  As for Kukoc, he WAS intimidated and it showed (his mates
didn't help much either).  Germany beats Angola by ONE POINT??!!??  And I don't
think that Australia over Puerto Rico is a very big upset, if it even is one.

3)  Story of the games so far--no contest:  Pablo Morales.  'Nuf said.

4)  The TV commentator for diving is WENDY LIAN WILLIAMS, not Michelle what's-
her name.  But I do agree, she does get really annoying, really fast.

5)  Since I don't get cable where I'm at, I'm not aware of the free Triplecast
coverage, but still, NBC really screwed itself over with it.  I think David
Letterman's last show before the Olympics really summed it all up.  Dave was 
selling the Triplecast door-to-door, giving discounts to anyone who could 
complete the phrase "Because of the Triplecast, NBC is going to lose a lot of
BLANK."

6)  I would appreciate anyone who knows the results of Greco-Roman wrestling
to post ASAP.  Some of my state's natives are battling for the gold (if my
memory serves me right, the local news said that Dennis Kozlowski (sp?) was one
win from the gold).  Thanx!!

Well, I guess that's all the info that I might know.  I've never posted before,
so if there are any mistakes in my posting, please give me an earfull!!

*******************************************  Joel Alvstad
                                             St. Olaf College
                              		     Northfield, MN
					     alvstad@stolaf.edu


going door-to-door to sell the Triplecast
From: rob@cwi.nl (Rob van Rooijen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: SOCCER: results group B
Date: 27 Jul 92 07:22:06 GMT
Organization: CWI, Amsterdam




# = number of matches played
W = won
D = draw
L = lost
P = points
F = goals for
A = goals against


Group B
=======

Ghana - Australia  3-1
12. Gargo 1-0
82. Ayew 2-0
89. Ayew 3-0
90. Vidmar 3-1

Denmark - Mexico  1-1
40. Rotlan 0-1 (pen.)
87. Thomson 1-1

                 # W D L  P   F A
                 ================
Ghana            1 1 0 0  2   3-1
Denmark          1 0 1 0  1   1-1
Mexico           1 0 1 0  1   1-1
Australia        1 0 0 1  0   1-3

remaining matches:

28-7   Mexico - Australia
28-7   Ghana - Denmark
30-7   Mexico - Ghana
30-7   Denmark - Australia



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Library CWI  ++  Amsterdam  ++  The Netherlands
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder 432-4219)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: PPV doesn't pay off
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:08:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Home Office in Barcelona

Are you getting the impression that the jokers behind the TC(cable's
version of Titanic) can't get out of their own way?

That's easy to conclude after one madcap marketing mis-step after
another,Wednsday's hastily announced fire sale - hold the presses -
another panic reduction late yesterday.

The newest sign of desperation was Cablevision/NBC's early-evening
press release announcing the $29.95 weekend special has been moved up
to 5pm TODAY(FRIDAY) through 5pm Sunday. Wouldn't be awful of me to
mention that NBC has 33.5 FREE hours today through Sunday?

Drum roll,maestro,there's more : Cablevision/NBC just announced a
$59.95 "Finale Package"(how fitting!) which will begin at 5am Monday
and cover the rest of the Olympics. Remember,also, that the daily
rate was slashed to $19.95 but varies regionally(it'll go around $14.95
in some Cablevision systems around Boston next week).

Remember,the original $170 pitch? We've come a long way,baby.
Now,again tonight from 6-10pm and 1-4am,CNBC will be carved four ways
(The Eyestrain Special) to induce you to buy. The TC occipies 3/4 qtrs,the
other has a logo and printed special rates and the audio is a hard-sell.
NBC's Don Gould pitching,"You won't have to listen to me anymore if you
only subscribe!"

-Mark
Still waiting for $10 daily special to be offered by the greedy and
stupid founders of this triology of trouble...
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From: dht@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Joyous Dave baby)
Subject: Codes for Countries
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 11:16:29 GMT

Can someone please post the codes for all (or most) of the countries?
Like, AUS is Australia, USA is USA, CHN is China, etc.... but there
are some codes which I don't understand, like HON, which is what?

Thanks.

-- 
"We attract anti-Japanese feeling when investment is high and we attract the
same feeling when investment is low,"  he says.  "This seems to be basic to
Australia-Japan relations."
                      -- Masami Sekine, Political Science, Keio University.
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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: TripleCast Update
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:20:43 GMT

In article 5089@wuecl.wustl.edu, van@seurat.wustl.edu (Van Vo) writes:
>stupid people who think they are following holy principles.  My
>suggestion:  if you don't want it, don't get it, but don't take away
>our option.
>
>Ah, I feel much better.  I guess I'll have to unsubscribe to this
>newsgroup :).
>
>Van Vo



Van, speaking of options, how come NBC didn't give us any options.  If I paid for 
all three channels, I can not possibly watch all three channels.  My beef with this triplecast crap is that I do not get a choice of what I am willing to pay for.  The
only choice I have is to either not get the triplecast or to pay a fairly steep price for a bunch of junk I don't want.  It seems to me that these advertising executives that you speak of don't have any respect for the intelligence of the average sports fanatic, because they seem to think that we are willing to blindly pay for whatever they set in front of us.  

I hope that this triplecast is an abysmal failure because maybe then the powers 
that be will take into account what people are willing to pay for.  I think they 
could have made a package where separate channels are made available for viewing in combination.  I am willing to pay for just the Blue channel, for instance, and that option should be available to me.  If someone only want two channels, then that 
should also be available.  The technology is already there, so that should not 
escalate the cost.  

Pete Wung
From: ileana@hardy.u.washington.edu (Ileana Blade)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: GYMNASTICS: results
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:30:51 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

rachele@cs.rice.edu (Rachele Harless) writes:

>compared with that of all the other competitors.  The top 36 gymnasts
>qualify (out of 96 competing).  However, only three gymnasts per
>country may advance to finals... when some have to be "removed" (this
>always happens to the top nations), the officials continue down the
>list ....

Is this what's going to happen so that Tatiana Gutsu can enter
the all-around individual final? It was so sad to see her fall
off the beam ...

ileana
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From: KARLIN@BNLCL6.BNL.GOV (07850_LS)
Subject: US team
Organization: BROOKHAVEN NATIONAL LABORATORY
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 16:23:04 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

Thanks to Rachele Harless for posting the complete schedule. Could somebody 
post a list of the US team members by sport?
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage ...
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:57:21 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Jul30.190806.27430@mercury.unt.edu> danny@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Danny Faught) writes:
>Is it just me or just Bob Costas have no facial expression whatsoever?
>Come on, man, show some emotion!

Hey, come on Danny!  Bob is a great guy, he's just been EASTERNIZED.

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From: killer@niksula.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa)
Subject: Re: USA/Japan Volleyball Dispute
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
	<KILLER.92Jul29173155@robocop.hut.fi>
	<1992Jul29.155914.22624@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:31:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.155914.22624@sunb10.cs.uiuc.edu> wang@ibma1.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric Wang) writes:

   NCAA).  Is it really part of the unspoken rules of soccer?  In any case,

Isn't that what sportmanship is?  A set of unspoken rules which most
participants adhere to.

But let us not forget the fact that if the FIVB really overturned a
judgement call, the US 'protest' is more understandable.
I think they should make a counter-protest conserning the late entry
of the Japanese protest.  That way the precedent would have to be set
aside.
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From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage ...
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:24:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.154542.26682@javelin.sim.es.com> gfowler@javelin.sim.es.com (Gary Fowler) writes:
>
>Did anyone happen to catch the stupid comment made by one of the NBC announcers,during the parade of nations? It went something like this:  "The United States
>will be coming up soon because they are using the French alphabet."  The last
>time I checked, the French and English alphabets were pretty much the same.
>The reason that the US followed Estonia was because they were going in alpha-
>betical order according the French names.  United States = Etats Unies.  Pardon
>the spelling, since I don't have a French-English dictionary with me.
>


One stupid comment?  I sat through an entire rendition of the New World Order
according to George Bush as read by Bob Costas.  The neo-colonial world view
was complete with lists of atrocities by each third world dictator (in lieu
of actual sporting information about the marching atheletes) that has fallen
out of favour with the state departement.  As expected, no mention of brutal
dictatorships, such as Algeria, that have the blessings of the Order.
Charles Barkeley's elbow is indeed very benign and innocent compared to this.

j n a
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From: mcohen@brtph127.BNR.CA (Matt Cohen P785)
Subject: Roller hockey, when?
Reply-To: mcohen@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, BNR-RTP 
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:13:47 GMT

	Can someone post the times for the roller hockey demonstration
games?  A lot of folks here are interested in seeing them.
From: pcannon@spotlight.Corp.Sun.COM (Phil Cannon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: ATHLETICS: M's SP Qualifying
Date: 31 Jul 1992 20:55:09 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: pcannon@spotlight.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: spotlight.corp.sun.com



  Men's SP Qualifying: Top 6 in each group advance to Finals
 
  GROUP 1
 
   1. WERNER GUNTHOR, SWITZERLAND	67 FEET, 3 1-4 INCHES. 
   2. LUCIANO ZERBINI, ITALY		66-5 1-4. 
   3. DRAGAN PERIC, YUGOSLAVIA		66-5. 
   4. VIATCHESLAV LYKHO, UNIFIED TEAM	66-5. 
   5. MIKE STULCE, USA			66-2 1-4. 
   6. RON BACKES, USA        		64-8. 
   7. GERT MICHEL WEIL WIESENBORN, CHILE	63-8 1-4. 
   8. PAUL EDWARDS, BRITAIN		62-5 1-4. 
   9. KENT LARSSON, SWEDEN		60-10 3-4 
   10. UDO BEYER, GERMANY		60-7 1-4. 
   11. VICTOR COSTELLO, IRELAND 	56-3 1-4. 
   12. ZLATAN SARACEVIK, BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA 	53-9. 
   KALMAN KONYA, GERMANY, DSQ.


  GROUP 2
 
   1. JAMES DOEHRING, USA		67-4 1-4. 
   2. ALEXANDER KLIMENKO, UNIFIED TEAM	66-1 3-4. 
   3. ALESSANDRO ANDREI, ITALY		66-1. 
   4. ULF TIMMERMANN, GERMANY		65-4 3-4. 
   5. KLAUS BODENMULLER, AUSTRIA	65-2. 
   6. SOREN TALLHEM, SWEDEN		64-5 3-4. 
   7. PETUR GUDMUNDSSON, ICELAND	62-10. 
   8. ANDREY NEMTCHNINOV, UNIFIED TEAM	62-3 1-4. 
   9. GHEORGHE GUSET, ROMANIA		62-2 1-4. 
   10. ANTERO PALJAKKA, FINLAND		60-5 1-4. 
   11. KHALID ALKHALIDI, SAUDI ARABIA 	58-1 3-4. 
   12. PAUL QUIRKE, IRELAND		55-9 3-4. 
   13. BILAL SAAD MUBARAK, QATAR	55-8 1-2. 
   14. PETER DAJIA, CANADA		55-2. 

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From: zaichunl@cs.tamu.edu (Zaichun Li)
Subject: Re: Table Tennis Predictions
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:51:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.222741.21560@cc.umontreal.ca> desjarly@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Desjardins Lyne) writes:
>
>Hi people !!
>
>Here are predictions (about Table Tennis) I received :
>
>Women's Sigles:
>	Deng Yaping (CHN)
>	Jun Gao (CHN)
>	Some Chinese player
>	Chinese all the way (!)

Agree.

>Women's Doubles:
>	No name; only a country : CHINA !!

No.., not this one. A Korean pair(sorry, no names) should be there.

>Lyne
>
>-- 
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zack



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From: ca-mc580@andy.bgsu.edu ([Alvaro C. Calabia})
Subject: Spain 101-Brazil 100
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:55:48 GMT

Spain beat Brazil 101-100.


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From: chiaki10@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Kwan Y Mok)
Subject: NBC's Coverage of Men's Gymnastics Team final was BOGUS!!
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:02:59 GMT

What's this? America's Funniest Men Gymnast Video?! I just finished watching
NBC July 29th Olympic coverage (or lack of) of the Men's Gymnastics team final.
They showed one United Team gymnast, and then a whole bunch of bloopers and
mishaps from US gymnasts. While seeing American gymnasts slip and fall from
Prommel horse or high bar was amusing at times, I was wondering, WHERE THE HELL
ARE THE HIGHLIGHTS SHOWING GYMNASTS THAT FINISHED 2ND AND 3RD (China, Japan)?
Gone. Disappeared. Vaporized. Denied.

It is perfectly acceptable to show more American athletes no matter how much
they sucked, after all, this is the US, but NOT totally ignoring the others,
especially when they are top 3 finishers!

First of all, NBC showed nothing from China and Japan. Secondly, only one
Russian gymnast was shown. Thirdly, today's segment on Men's Gymnastics was
way too SHORT!! Just because US team was expected to win the bronze but ended
up finishing sixth doesn't mean that the whole thing had to be cut down in
half or more. NBC was probably kicking themselves for scheduling Men's
Gymnastics in today's program. It is against their principle to show an event
where Americans did not medal, you know. They probably said, "Well, since it's
already in the schedule, let's cut it up, put some crazy, irrelevant rock music
in the background, make it more like a music video and get it over with."
Which brings me to my final point. What's this music business?!! Why didn't
they show it as is, like what they did for Women's gymnastics? We are not here
to see some music videos! This is probably NBC's way of getting back at those
audiences too cheap to order Triplecast. "See, if you have ordered the Olympics
triplecast like I told you to, you would have seen this in its entirety!"
Sorry NBC, we have strayed. We should have ordered triplecast.
NOT!!!

Was it CBS who showed the 88 Olympics? I think the air time given to gymnasts
was more evenly distributed among the top finishers then, wasn't it?

							-- KM the Terrified
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From: svec5@menudo.uh.edu (T.C. Zhao)
Subject: Re: NBC Olympic coverage ...
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 18:49:25 GMT

In article <92212.110554TXK9@psuvm.psu.edu> <TXK9@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>Talking about NBC coverage some of the comentary for diving was realy
>amusing almost stupid. At one point the comentator suggested that the
>silver medal winner in 3m diving for men the diver from China was
>westernized because he smiles. What does she mean, the easterners
>do not smile? The American gymnastic team after some unfortunate
>falls were so down and serious that there was no smile in their face.
>Does that make them eastern.  I think NBC should give a more educated
>comments. After all audience inside USA itself comes from all nations
>you can think of.

Yeah, the female commentator for the diving event iritates the hell
out of me. She must've worked for Home Shopping Club for too long,
and she speaks way too much and too pitchy and worse, most of what
she says is offensive.
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