From: EFS6ET1@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU
Subject: Re: DOOL: Spudnix blasphemies -- NOT!
Reply-To: ecz5mxr@mvs.oac.ucla.edu
Date: 28 Dec 92 15:28:29 PST

In article <1hibbkINNco1@agate.berkeley.edu>, on 26 Dec 1992 19:21:24 GMT,
sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson) writes:

Ciao Spud!

<good points deleted for brevity!>

>for this reason, I have come to the point that Laurence
>is my most disliked male character. He is DULL, there is
>no charm to him, constantly moaning about Carly, and Nikki,
>no more evil deeds, no more seductive evil charm, no more
>character.....I could have taken a redemnption, but there
>was none. No process at all....he found out he was a father
>and BANG he is "Father Knows Best, Ward Cleever, and all the
>rest of the 50s sitcome dads rolled into one. Even Jack is

YES!!!!!  I could not agree with you more.  I used to love to watch
the villainous manipulative slimy evil Lizardo.  Now he is Ward Cleaver,
but a whiney, wimpy Ward.  And I absolutely HATE the way both Larry
and Carpy suddenly adored the child.  Yeegads!  Those discussions of
Nikki's great genes smack of the Nazi's ubermensch.  Can you say "master
race," boys and girls?
And, yes, the only male character with any integrity (in terms of
character continuity) is Jack and that's because, as we all know, Matt
continually fights for Jack.  I think it's obvious the writers are not
interested in protecting their characters.

>still his neurotic, semi-slimy self. If this continues I
>just hope Sabatino JUST LEAVES--and then maybe he will
>take Crystal with him. As it is I can't watch him. This

I can't believe it, but I'm agreeing again.  A few months ago I would
have been angry to see Michael go, now I just want him to leave and
PUHLEEEZE take Carpetstain with him.

>past week it was the same repeat dialogue. Wed. and
>Thursday (which should have be a Horton and then John
>Marlena, Carrie episode) was only a repeat of Wed. concerning

I know.  It was disgusting!  I am sick to death of Carly and Larry
and the fruit of their looms.  Nikki was far better off with Viv.

>Carly and Laurence. Supposedly Jack and Jenn were to discuss
>their past Xmases, the Santa Jack, the hope chest, but that
>was cut...and what for, those stupid scenes with Carly and

Good for you, Spud.  The scriptwriter was furious.  (I know this
because it was SSH's mom, Elizabeth).  That opening scene when Jack
asked Jenn if she still believed in Santa?  What followed in her
original script was a discussion of the Jack as Santa, the Xmas
proposal and the hope chest and how it had all eventually come true,
worked out, etc.  The only thing left of this was the first line and
the last about it being the best Xmas yet.  Apparently great chunks
of Horton Xmas were cut out to make room for even more Carpy/Larry stuff
that was added AFTER the scriptwriter turned in the script.

>Laurence going through Nikki's photo album....why couldn't
>we have had more scenes of ABBY'S first Xmas, more scenes
>with Julie, Bill, and Mickey and Maggie with Tom and Alice,
>and more scenes with John and Marlena and Carrie. We could
>have done without Carly and Laurence since they had the
>Friday episode, and the Wednesday one too.

YES! YES! YES!  I wanted to see more Hortons!  I have watched the
Horton family Xmas for years and that is what I want and expect.
But, I forgot, this is DOCL...

>Anyway, since Jack lost the story, there now won't be
>a big mystery for him. No way will Crystal allow Kristian
>to interlope on her, so Kristian will not be Hope. We
>are losing SHH. The Hortons are not the centeral family
>anymore. ALL the past Horton traditions, those things

Exactly!  Where did the Hortons go?  And with Kristian coming back,
wouldn't it be perfect to have Doug and Julie in Salem to greet her?

>which made the show, are being ignored for a NEW generation.
>So FUCK them all....things looked so good a while back. However,
>I think that the few scenes with Marcus, the scenes with Julie,
>Jack/Jack, and Jo during sweeps were just a rouse to get the
>old time viewers to watch, and then once the sweeps were over
>they go back to the Carly show. Will with each passing week

I know.  It is so weird.  Everyone kept talking about the returning
focus on the Hortons.  Even SOD gave DOCL the nod because of the
supposed return to the core family.  What core family?  Jenn is the
only Horton who gets even nominal airtime.

>this old time viewer is getting more and more disgusted, and
>it appears that soon it will be time to de-program the VCR.
>
>Spudnix--

I may be right behind you, Spud.  And I've watched since I was a kid,
so I can't believe I'm saying this.  But all I do is ff through almost
everything anyway.  Sigh...  I'm holding out until Doug and Julie get
their one-day reunion.  But after that...
**Razzie 
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