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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:22:05 -0700
From:         divide and conquer <LUCKE@CMCVX1.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      Looking for a good graphics package.

    I am writing to seek help in finding good graphics software for the
VAX. There are two different but related capabilities that we would like:

        1. An easy to use module that could be used from Pascal to write
        graphics programs in our first two CS classes.

        2. A stand alone application that would take data files and
        graph them.

        Both of these would be implemented on a workstation or x-windows
        terminal and we would prefer one package if it exists.

Thank you for your help.
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:56:41 -0400
From:         "John M. Beaubrun" <BEAUBRUN@BARRYU.BITNET>
Subject:      Computer purchase requirement for students

        Our university is considering ways to reduce the congestion in the
public computer labs, and I am aware that a number of other institutions have
requirements for students to own computers. We sell computers to students
through educational sales programs provided by IBM, Apple, Zenith and now
Digital, but students are not required to purchase. Before we consider making
it a requirement I would like find out how other institutions are handling this
problem. If anyone reading this note has any ideas on the subject our has a
student computer purchase requirement in place, I would really appreciate any
information that you have.

Thanks,

John Beaubrun
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Barry University                        FAX      : (305) 899-3607
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 05:09:00 PDT
From:         ORWELL@TRIUMFER.BITNET
Subject:      We're looking for a few good Jedi Knights

I have seen something on TV recently which I find quite chilling
in its implications; bear with me while I describe it [Caveats: I've seen this
twice in the last month or so on the Arts and Entertainment cable
channel; my description is almost certainly not correct in all details
but I believe it is faithful to the overall effect] and its relevance
to this list should be clear:

The piece opens as a scene from a big-budget sword and sorcery
movie on an apparently `infinite chessboard' of black and white squares,
the squares large enough to accommodate people on horseback as `chess pieces'.
There is a single knight in highly polished silver armour mounted
on a white horse; there are several evil knights in black armour on
foot, and perhaps one or more black knights on a black horse as well.
Off to one side is an evil wizard robed in black.
The good knight lays about with his sword, dispatching the
minions of the evil wizard, and they disappear in a flash
of blue light; the good knight wheels to confront the wizard
face to face (which may have been a witch initially, I can't be sure) --
the knight raises his broadsword -- which then metamorphoses into
a ceremonial "dress sword" -- the dress sword of
the U.S. Marines, in fact -- which is what the scene dissolves
to, a U.S. Marine in dress uniform holding up a sword.  This sword and
sorcery piece (high-quality, could have been done by Industrial Light
and Magic) -- invoking the classic metaphors of good versus evil --
is a recruiting ad for the U.S. Marines!!

Consider what this means.  Recruiting ads for the armed forces always
had a strong element of implicit fantasy ("Not just a job, an
adventure") but at least the scenes were shot in the real world
(tanks, ships, jet aircraft, rapelling down cliff faces, etc.).
Now, it seems, to a generation raised on the high-quality special
effects of the Hollywood dream factory, they can drop even the nominal
coupling with reality.  The quite effective emotional connotation
of this ad is that joining the Marines is akin to becoming a
Jedi Knight.

In a brilliant essay by the linguist George Lakoff (coauthor of
"Metaphors We Live By") which circulated on the computer networks just
before the bombing of Baghdad, Lakoff discussed how the arguments
presented for the Gulf War were based on a system of metaphorical
justification.  In particular, the portrayal of Saddam Hussein in
these metaphors corresponded to the position of the dragon in the
classic fairy tale -- the dragon is an evil which must be *defeated*,
but it cannot be *reasoned* with -- it can only be defeated by force.
Now, we have the same metaphor in pure visual form.
Application of this metaphor to cover the case of U.S. military intervention
in Somalia -- defeating the evil warlords -- is left as an exercise
for the reader.

Ron Balden
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Subject:      re: We're looking for a few good Jedi Knights

>In particular, the portrayal of Saddam Hussein in
>these metaphors corresponded to the position of the dragon in the
>classic fairy tale -- the dragon is an evil which must be *defeated*,
>but it cannot be *reasoned* with -- it can only be defeated by force.
>Now, we have the same metaphor in pure visual form.

The scary thing is, imagine the mentality of someone on whom an
advertisement like that would work!

Such an individual would indeed be something that cannot be *reasoned*
with, only manipulated by force.

I just saw the movie "A Few Good Men".  The part about them having to
wear camaflouged gear when driving along the fence so the Cubans would
not think there might be an officer worth shooting was patently absurd.
The LAST thing in the world the Cubans want to do is give Uncle Sam an
excuse to invade by shooting an American inside an American base.

If the movie's portrayal of Marine mentality was even remotely correct,
it's no wonder Dad hated Marines while in Korea.

By the way, what's the Marine code "Unit, Corps, God, Country" supposed
to mean anyway?  Is that the ordering of their loyalties?


Dave
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:17:00 EST
From:         CATHYF@EARLHAM.BITNET
Subject:      Peace Activists in Belgrade

>/* Written  9:19 pm  Dec 26, 1992 by jlynch@igc.apc.org in igc:yugo.antiwar */
>/* ---------- "Volunteer to Belgrade" ---------- */
>        * Forwarded from the COBWEB (Church of the Brethren) network on
>        the ECUNET system.
>
>COB COMMUNICATIONS Dec. 22, 1992 at 16:46 Eastern  (1906 characters)
>
>Brethren volunteer begins work in Belgrade, Serbia
>
>A Brethren Volunteer Service (BVS) worker has begun service at a peace
>center in Belgrade, Serbia.
>
>   Patrick Morgan, of Akron, Ind., is working at the Center for Anti-war
>Action. In his third year of BVS, Morgan entered Serbia in November last
>year, after taking mediation training in Germany.
>
>   The war between Croatia, Bosnia, and Serbia, is not taking place in the
>Belgrade area. Morgan's responsibility is to assist with the center's
>communications to the outside world, especially with other peace
>organizations. Part of the job consists of setting up electronic mail and a
>computer network.
>
>   ``People in the west need to be aware that the Serbians are human beings
>and are not the devils they are made out to be,'' said Morgan. ``It is
>difficult because no one knows what to do. Sanctions seem like the best
>thing, but they are a form of violence and are tearing the country apart,''
>he said.
>
>   Morgan, a Catholic, is a 1990 graduate of Manchester College, North
>Manchester, Ind., with a bachelors degree in communications. He worked for
>two years at the Interfaith Peace Center in Rome, Italy, prior to his
>assignment in Serbia.
>
>   The length of his stay depended on the outcome of the presidential
>elections, held December 20, and any additional sanctions placed on the
>country.
>
>   ``It is a time of anxiety and I'm getting mixed messages,'' said Morgan
>prior to the elections. ``For a foreigner it is very difficult because a
>lot of the propaganda from the president (Slobodan Milosevic) says that
>`foreigners are a big influence on the problems.' ''
>
>   The Center for Anti-war Action, a coalition of peace organizations and
>anti-war groups, was formed in July 1991 with the intention of being a
>peace presence in the former Yugoslavia.  --MESSENGER February 1993
>
>--Communication Team, Church of the Brethren General Board, Elgin, IL, USA
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From:         Jane Jerry <jjane@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Japanese agressive plutonium stockpilers, why?

Why are the Japanese agressively stockpiling plutonium?  Given
the fact that the plutonium they are purchasing necessarily must
travel by sea transport, (How 'bout that oil tanker breaking-up
near the Shetland Islands) isn't this a very dangerous situation
ecologically, and in the future, politically and militarily dangerous
as well?

G. J. Jerry
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From:         Howard Kaplan <HKAPLAN@UDCVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: We're looking for a few good Jedi Knights

Of course what the ads Should say is Sign Up , kill women and children and
maybe be killed, yourself.  Somehow, though, I doubt we'll see that.
                                Howard
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:25:00 EST
From:         CATHYF@EARLHAM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Peace Activists in Belgrade

Howard-- I think "Communication Team" is just the name for the
folks who deal with media-- i.e., send out press releases, which
this item apparently is. Church types often come up with creative
names for such things! "Church of the Brethren" is the name of a
Christian denomination-- one of the so-called "historic peace
churches", along with the Mennonites and Quakers (all three are
widely represented in my home state of Indiana). So they are especially
interested in mediating conflicts and training people for nonviolent
conflict resolution, as in this case. The "General Board" in Elgin,
Illinois that issued the press release represents many individual
churches of the denomination. However, the Brethren Volunteer Service
obviously also involves people who not members of that particular
denomination (the Brethren Volunteer mentioned is Catholic). Many
denominations have volunteer services like this, and it is common for
"non-members" to also participate.
            Peace, Cathy Flick
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From:         CATHYF@EARLHAM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: MIRacles No. 14 (Balkans)

I think it is inappropriate to refer to Joel's reports as "propaganda"
that will only "benefit the criminals". From his first-hand experiences
in various areas in conflict as well as knowledge of other history, he
has been working to increase understanding of the complexity of the
situation and realization that real human beings exist on all sides--
which also means that the Serbs have to be seen as human, also, and
treated accordingly.
   Humans are capable of terrible actions, making all sorts of excuses
for such things (generally claiming ultimately self-defense). A first
step toward changing such destructive behavior is to listen to the
offenders, to try to understand WHY they think what they are doing is
legitimate. Often people get entrapped in destructive behavior-- they
start for some reason (e.g., misdirected self-defense) and then feel
they must continue it in order to justify what they have done before. A
common feeling among such people is that "nobody is listening to MY
concerns"--sometimes listening to them can help break the pattern. This
is true both within the family and between nations.
   One important fact is that there are indeed Serbs who are very much
against the war. A good question to ask might be: How can such anti-war
Serbs be supported? How can we encourage an increase in their numbers? I
have no idea what the answers would be-- certainly in the US, foreign
opinion seems to have absolutely no effect in such matters and actually
can be counterproductive. Americans just don't seem to care what other
people think about American military actions and the effects on unarmed
civilians, and American peace activists are often falsely accused of
being "manipulated" by foreigners. This makes me suspect that the most
important actors in the drama of the Balkans are necessarily the people
who live there. The anti-war Serbs will have to tell us what kind of
support they actually need from anybody else, and they are not likely to
all have the same opinion in the matter.
   In general,  people honestly disagree concerning the best way
to help resolve the conflicts in the Balkans. It is not naive or
stupid to question the effectiveness of foreign military intervention
(especially led by the US, since there are indeed forces within the
Pentagon which are desperate to justify their own continued existence
and huge share of the federal budget--hardly a situation conducive to
good judgment). History has shown that such apparent "quick fixes"
tend to ultimately cause more suffering. The question of appropriate
international sanctions is also a very complicated one-- how to balance
suffering caused to noncombatants compared with any positive effect
on diminishing the ability to wage war. The answers are not at all
obvious in any situation.
                    Peace, Cathy Flick
dB]r
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:11:00 EST
From:         CATHYF@EARLHAM.BITNET
Subject:      Re: We're looking for a few good Jedi Knights

I saw that weird recruiting ad for the Marines also, but it ran
here (on Dayton, Ohio stations) sometime before the Gulf War. Usually
the Army and Navy ads emphasize educational benefits and development
of leadership abilities-- you would hardly know what their REAL
business was from watching the ads!
   It is not surprizing that the Marines turned to fantasy for
recruitment -- REAL wars are actually very bad for recruiting, at
least the type of non-defensive wars that tend to be fought today.
But then you wouldn't need to use manipulative advertizing to
get willing recruits for a truly DEFENSIVE war.
         Peace, Cathy Flick
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:57:06 EST
From:         Habib Benhamza <benhamza@STUDENT.MSU.EDU>
Subject:      Killing of Bosnia's deputy prime minister
              "CATHYF%EARLHAM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU" at Jan 10, 93 10:11 pm

>          Peace, Cathy Flick
>
I would like the peaceful Cathy Flick to comment about the killing of Bosnia's
deputy prime minister by Serbian criminals.  In a previous message, she did
not agree with me in calling the Serbian as criminals, and as I understand
it she is strong advocate for a "peaceful" resolution of the genocide
taking place, as I am writing this note, in Bosnia-Hercegovina.

Also, peacefully
Ben Hamza
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From:         Howard Kaplan <HKAPLAN@UDCVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      RE: Peace Activists in Belgrade

>Brethren volunteer begins work in Belgrade, Serbia
>
>A Brethren Volunteer Service (BVS) worker has begun service at a peace
>center in Belgrade, Serbia.
>
>   Patrick Morgan, of Akron, Ind., is working at the Center for Anti-war
>Action. In his third year of BVS, Morgan entered Serbia in November last
>year, after taking mediation training in Germany.
>
>   The war between Croatia, Bosnia, and Serbia, is not taking place in the
>Belgrade area. Morgan's responsibility is to assist with the center's
>communications to the outside world, especially with other peace
>organizations. Part of the job consists of setting up electronic mail and a
>computer network.
>
>   ``People in the west need to be aware that the Serbians are human beings
>and are not the devils they are made out to be,'' said Morgan. ``It is
>difficult because no one knows what to do. Sanctions seem like the best
>thing, but they are a form of violence and are tearing the country apart,''
>he said.
>
>   Morgan, a Catholic, is a 1990 graduate of Manchester College, North
>Manchester, Ind., with a bachelors degree in communications. He worked for
>two years at the Interfaith Peace Center in Rome, Italy, prior to his
>assignment in Serbia.
>
>   The length of his stay depended on the outcome of the presidential
>elections, held December 20, and any additional sanctions placed on the
>country.
>
>   ``It is a time of anxiety and I'm getting mixed messages,'' said Morgan
>prior to the elections. ``For a foreigner it is very difficult because a
>lot of the propaganda from the president (Slobodan Milosevic) says that
>`foreigners are a big influence on the problems.' ''
>
>   The Center for Anti-war Action, a coalition of peace organizations and
>anti-war groups, was formed in July 1991 with the intention of being a
>peace presence in the former Yugoslavia.  --MESSENGER February 1993
>
>--Communication Team, Church of the Brethren General Board, Elgin, IL, USA
Even though this message is attributed to a communication team, I'm
at a loss as to what is supposed to be communicated.  Can someone
enlighten me?
                                Howard Kaplan
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From:         "26637::BRZWICKY" <BRZWICKY%26637.decnet@ROCKWELL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Yourmony home budget program

> Very recently someone mentioned a program called "yourmony.lzh" which
> was available on MRCserv.  I did not realize that MRCserv was not
> ftp'able and trying to find a file with one email a day is laborious to
> say the least.  Can anyone point out which directory this program is
> in?
> --
> Dan Roman  GEnie: D.ROMAN1  Internet: roman@tix.timeplex.com  //

Just get the index:

   get AMIGA-FILE-LIST.ZOO

in which you'll find:

   5-DEC-1989 12:22     132 [AMIGA.APPLICATIONS]YOURMONY.LZH;1

Yes, it'll still take another 2 days to get the program, and it'll
arrive uuencoded into little pieces (probably just 2 messages).


|\      / Bill Zwicky                       / I multitask!
|<      / Insight Industries, Inc.          / So does my Amiga!
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:21:20 -0400
From:         Marco Antonio Goncalves Lovato <lovato@INF.UFRGS.BR>
Subject: Re: GIF viewer

>       I am searching prog. which can show gif pictures.

        The program you're looking for if GIF2IFF ( there is also the IFF2GIF ).

        It is FTPable on plaza.aarnet.edu.au (I think). Use "archie -s gif2iff".


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| Marco Antonio Goncalves Lovato            |         __   |
| Email: lovato@inf.ufrgs.br                |        ///   |
+-------------------------------------------+   __  ///    |
| Add.: Cristiano Fischer Street, 99/1003   |   \\\///     |
| Porto Alegre - RS - Brazil - Zip 91410001 |    \Y//      |
+-------------------------------------------+              |
| Phone: (051)334-7648                      |    AMIGA     |
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From:         Tom Maes <tmaes@VNET3.VUB.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: Amiga rumours

>> Oh yes, of course this news should be taken with a grain of salt ;-)
>
>A grain ? More like a pound of salt.
>

Ah well, I should have expected flames for this mail :-(
Well, I just forwarded the text, so I could hear what the netters thought
of this.

One final note, though: never say a rumour is 0% true. I remember some
months ago all the wise guys were telling me the A4000 would never be
released ;-)

See ya, and thanx for the corrections about the so-called Motorola DSP.

-=  Tom Maes                      "Reality is no obstacle!"
-=  tmaes@vnet3.vub.ac.be
-=  Free University of Brussels
-=  Belgium - Europe
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:37:00 EDT
From:         "The Large Guy with Buckwheat's Hair." <LANDAS88@SNYPOTVA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: IBM <--> AMIGA JOYSTICK

For 9.95 a device is sold o do this chekc out hte latest AmigaWorld.

-Nyle
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Subject: Lottery Program
Date: 9 Jan 93 20:34:41 -0600
Organization: Southeastern Louisiana University


Where can I get a Lottery program for the Amiga ?
 PD or Shareware is fine.

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From:         Jerry McCollum <MCCOLLUM@WSUVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      NEED ADVICE

Amiga users -

I am new to this list. I need some advice. I have been asked to
purchase a good quality computer graphics for video system at
my new job which starts in June. I have experience with the Amiga
2500 (non-accelerated), early Vidtech genlock (crappy quality in
my opinion) and assorted software.  Money is not a problem.

What should I be looking for? I really do like Amiga and the video editing
system will either be a beefed up hi-8 with transcoding TBC or
U-matic SP with TBC. I'm not anticipating getting the Toaster since
it doesn't really do anything I'm interested in. All I really need
is a FAST machine for simple (but great looking) animation, frame-
grabbing, and the best genlock available.

IF 3-D construction/rendering software has gotten easier and faster
than Caligari, I'm interested. Also, maybe I should hear what's best
for Machine controllers. So, what's your semi-dream system?

Please send responses directly to me unless you feel they're appropriate
for the list.

Many thanks in advance,

Jerry McCollum, Dir.  Biomedical Communications
Washington State University, Pullman WA 99164-7013
mccollum@wsuvm1.csc.wsu.edu  509-335-2624
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