HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 02:29:15 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Keywords: MWCBBS

In article <1992Oct8.090203.16160@netcom.com> teddybur@netcom.com (John Sanger) writes:
>In article <9210071155.30@rmkhome.UUCP> rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct6.230348.28336@glv.uucp> rcc%frog@glv writes:
>>>--
>>>rcc%frog@glv.com                 
>>     ^^^^
>>The sysadmin of this machine should consider changing the name.
>>
>>The system frog.UUCP has been on the net since 1985, and is registered
>>in the UUCP maps.  And it is located in Massachusetts.
>>
>>rmk@frog.UUCP
>     ^^^^
>Sorry to see that you are having an EGO problem but the two (2) email
>addresses are entirely different and should pose no problem with any of the
>smart mailers that exist on the net as the routers for email.

It has nothing to do with ego.

There is only one frog in the UUCP maps.  I looked before I posted.  There
was a system called frog.UUCP in Minnesota or somewhere, and all their mail
was coming to frog.UUCP here in Massachusetts.  And of course, the mail all
bounced back to the senders.  They have since changed their name at the 
request of the UUCP map coordinators.

The FROM: on the article said rcc@frog.

The only connection I have with frog in Mass is to keep an eye on it as a
favor for it's administrator.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Access to MWCBBS
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:55:23 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Keywords: MWCBBS

In article <1992Oct6.230348.28336@glv.uucp> rcc%frog@glv writes:
>Is there any way to access the files on MWCBBS via anonymous ftp?
>
>--
>Chris Carpenter                  |     	"We learn from history
>rcc%frog@glv.com                 |       that we don't learn 
     ^^^^

The sysadmin of this machine should consider changing the name.

The system frog.UUCP has been on the net since 1985, and is registered
in the UUCP maps.  And it is located in Massachusetts.

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: rjt@softin.lonestar.org (Richard Threlkeld)
Newsgroups: comp.os.coherent
Subject: Re: Sorting largefiles, need advice
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 23:09:01 CST
Organization: Software Innovation, Arlington, Tx

kestas@lith.UUCP (Kestutis Sliupas) writes:

> Hi:
> 	I have to sort several 5.5M ASCII files, and sort
> keeps bombing with the message "sort: Out of memory". I have
> tried to use the -T option (pointing to a partition w/30 Mb
> free) and this does not work. Any advice is welcome.

A kludge that may work would involve using the split command 
to break it up into smaller chunks, sort them, then use the 
"sort -m" option to merge the sorted pieces (it does this
from disk to disk I believe).

Otherwise, for a straight sort, steal the code for quickersort
with disk buffering from one of the algorithm books.

I use optsort in MS-DOS to sort 30M ASCII files and it does it 
many times more quickly than the Unix sort command I have.
I don't know if they sell a version for Unix, however.
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: kraus@rtsg.mot.com (David Kraus)
Subject: Re: Where can I find DVX stuff??
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Division
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:15:32 GMT

In article <BvrtLD.CMD@news.udel.edu>, brad@bach.udel.edu (Brad Cain) writes:

> I have looked around to find shareware/public domain desqview X programs,
> but have only found a couple of things at wuarchive (simtel-mirror).
>    
> Can anyone suggest another FTP site that would have DVX stuff???

Well, there were 3 more programs through the FidoNet DVNET system last
week.  2 games, and the Quarterdeck White Papers in DVX help format.

xconquer is pretty good, but unfortunately didn't include the custom fonts.
Some strange behavior, but since I don't know the game, I can't say if it's
a bug or a feature...  The tank battle game seg faults for me, and I
haven't really played with it since....

They're starting to come along - it's only been a few weeks since the djgpp
libraries have been released, for crying out loud....

--
Dave Kraus                                         Internet: kraus@rtsg.mot.com
Motorola Cellular Infrastructure Group             FidoNet : 1:115/439.8
Disclaimer: My employer's views and my views may necessarily differ.
OBQuote: "Chicago is civilization?" - Me
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: nickw@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Nick Watkins)
Subject: Re: Non-X applications in a DVX dos window
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:57:38 GMT

From article <1992Oct14.202153.1251@qdeck.com>, by garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich):
> In article <1992Oct12.151129@IASTATE.EDU> dickw@IASTATE.EDU (Richard Wallingford) writes:
>>What causes some non X-windows DOS graphics applications to run inside
>>the DOS X-window and others to run outside (after blanking
>>the screen)?   Do the graphics go to the X-window if they are created 
>>by calls to the BIOS, and to the overall PC screen if they use 
>>the VGA registers directly?
> 
> Um, no.  No DOS graphics app will run in an X window.  Only X graphics and
> WinX graphics work.  A program can use all the ANSI colors and box
> drawing chars without going into graphics mode.  That is almost certainly
> what you are seeing.
>>
I'm not so sure. Consider learn.com - Microsofts tutorial for Quick C.
Start this and it goes full screen and then decides that a small window
is OK, but shows what look to me like VGA graphics - pseudoanimated.

Try running it from another X machine in a DOS window however and 
the "this program is about to go into graphics mode" message appears 
and prog won't run except on DOS screen.

Is it not a partial stub of the original claim to be able to run DOS
graphical programs in small X windows - a la DV ? This has largely (but
not completely) disappeared from the manuals.

Inquiring minds want to know

Nick



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From: nickw@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Nick Watkins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: DV/X + DR DOS + PC/TCP ???
Date: 14 Oct 92 16:19:53 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex

From article <bill.718673602@chaos.cs.umn.edu>, by bill@chaos.cs.umn.edu ( Hari Seldon     psychohistorian ):
> In <1992Oct6.155117.16165@syma.sussex.ac.uk> nickw@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Nick Watkins) writes:
> 
>>From article <1992Oct2.002223.10827@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, by bodoh@xraylith.wisc.edu (Daniel J. Bodoh):
> 
>>>      DR DOS works great with DESQview, except for the history feature.
> 
> no comment (havent tried it)
4DOS does work however so I use  DV/X + DR DOS + PC/TCP + 4DOS ...

Rather like the "1000 loose rivets flying in close formation that
the RAF Shackleton was one described as ... :-)


>>DV/X + PC/TCP + DR DOS 6 is supported or not, because otherwise people
> 
> not supported and doesn't work are not nessisarily the same. (fyi)
> we use this combo and have had pretty good luck (it gets better as i tune:-)
> 
Indeed so do we. My only observations so far are that hidos=on is not v useful
and it creates umbs that things like superstor will try to use. Easier
to put DV/X high and switch hidos=off. Can use device=hidos.sys option
to hiload the DOS kernel other than in HMA EVEN IF HIDOS=OFF !!! Will load
kernel into first UMB > 37k it can find.

Woth upgrading tom superstor 2 as whole superstor driver loads high then
 ( ~60k on my machine though so decide if you can spare driver space before
using it ...)

Also wd8003.sys and ipcust.sys don't seem to like being loaded high.

What are your tuning tips ... ?

Just got ftp 2.1, also working v nicely under DR DOS, DV/X.

Nick
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: baloo@mik.uky.edu (kevin s coupal)
Subject: config.sys
Keywords: cofig.sys
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: baloo
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:26:23 GMT

Can someone please post their config.sys ?  I have been having trouble with mine
I can't get anything to load high, I'm wondering if maybe i have some sort
of memory viris.  I can't even do shadow ram switch for qemm.  Ihave a 486/33
with 8 meg ram and am running desqiew 2.42. 
Thanks 
Kevin Coupal

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: Andrew McCallum <andrewm@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Disapearing Cursor
X-To: ALL
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:27:00 GMT

    I use OLX under DESQview.

    When I reply, OLX loads up Qedit to edit my reply file.  Sometimes while
it does that, I switch to another window to take a look at what's happening.
When I come back, I can still edit everything ok, but my underscore cursor
is sitting in one place.  This is annoying becuase I can't see where I'm
editing a line from within the line.

    This is the only place that I can put a finger on.  It's happened a
couple of times in DOS also.

    Is there a way to stop this from happening?

                                                Andrew
        _    _     _     _   _  _    _  _ _ _  _   _  _     _   _   _
      .    .     .     .   .   .    .  .  . .   .   .  .      .  .    .
    +    +     +     +    +   +    +  +   +  +   +   +   +      +   +    +
 *     *     *     *    *   *    *   *    *   *   *    *   *      *    *    *
T    h    e      C    h    a    l    k    b    o    a    r    d      B    B    S
                               884-4289 1200baud
                    No Files, No Messages, No online games
             but... aaaaaaah.... we do have a modem that answers!

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: barry@coyote.datalog.com (Barry Mishkind)
Subject: DV causes lockups?
Organization: Datalog Consulting, Tucson, AZ
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 02:05:01 GMT

HI. I'm new to this group, so if the answer has been answered as an FAQ, 
forgive me. I just started by trying to install DV on my 486-33. After 
running Xtree for a couple of minutes, I end up with a frozen system. 
Sometimes there are a couple of one character wide vertical lines on the 
screen. The only solution is to reboot.

Sound familiar?

Any ideas welcome....

thanks

---
Barry Mishkind
barry@coyote.datalog.com                  FidoNet 1:300/11.3
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: "quarterdeck canada" <quarterdeck.canada@canrem.com>
Subject: minor keyboard proble
Reply-To: "quarterdeck canada" <quarterdeck.canada@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:08:36 EST

RB>Does anyone know of a way I can make the backspace key send a Del?  I would
RB>prefer to keep the Ctrl-h mapped to Ctrl-h (help in emacs) but when I log
RB>onto a remote system my backspace key doesn't work properly any more.  This
RB>is not a big thing but it is annoying to have to use backspace in DOS and
RB>the delete key when logged into Unix/VMS.  Oh, this is under DV/X.

On the Sun machines, you would put

stty erase ^h

in your .login script, or in the section of your .cshrc file that refers
to interactive shells.  There are equivalents on other Unix boxes.

Regards,

Michael Bolton
Tech Support
Quarterdeck Canada  (416) 360-5758  quarterdeck.canada@canrem.com
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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Subject: Re: Non-X applications in a DVX dos window
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:21:53 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.151129@IASTATE.EDU> dickw@IASTATE.EDU (Richard Wallingford) writes:
>What causes some non X-windows DOS graphics applications to run inside
>the DOS X-window and others to run outside (after blanking
>the screen)?   Do the graphics go to the X-window if they are created 
>by calls to the BIOS, and to the overall PC screen if they use 
>the VGA registers directly?

Um, no.  No DOS graphics app will run in an X window.  Only X graphics and
WinX graphics work.  A program can use all the ANSI colors and box
drawing chars without going into graphics mode.  That is almost certainly
what you are seeing.
>
>Also, I'm using a MS-windows program (image processing) which *requires* 
>the MS windows driver for my Orchid Prodesigner II VGA card.  When I 
>run WINX, the image processing software gets confused because of the 
>desqview driver.  It doesn't seem to realize that there are enough
>bits per pixel.  

There probably are not enough bits per pixel.  Keep in mind that WinX
is a 16 color version of Windows, at least in the current release.

Gary Rich	<support@qdeck.com>
From: jka@cyclone.larc.nasa.gov (J. Keith Alston)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: starting remote progs. under DVX...NOT
Date: 15 Oct 1992 20:23:51 GMT
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cyclone.larc.nasa.gov

Hi,
   I've set up DVX so that it should start a remote application(and display it
locally) when DVX starts up. However, the remote application never does start
up. If I wait until DVX is up and then do the exact same rsh command in a
DOS window it starts with no problem. Anyone have any idea what the problem
might be?

-- 
************************      Don't just do it!     ***********************
Lockheed Eng. and Sci. Co./Nasa Larc|J. Keith Alston jka@windshear.larc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: aml@world.std.com (Andrew M Langmead)
Subject: Re: Old DESQVIEW on AT 286
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:47:06 GMT

echeva@dit.upm.es (Fernando J. Echevarrieta Fernandez) writes:

>	HI. Does anyone know if Desqview 2.3 (not Desview X) running
>	on an AT 286 would use a second Mb of memmory? (extended).
>	Thanx all.
>	:)
DESQview will only use the first 64K of extended memory (the HMA or High
Memory Area) and only if DOS (or someone else) is not using it already.
DESQview on a 286 will make use of any expanded memory that adheres to
the EMS 4.0 or EEMS hardware specification. On a '286 with extended memory
probably the best thing you can do is to make a RAM disk out of the
exteded memory and give DESQview a quick disk to swap to.
-- 
|Andrew Langmead - A frustrated Mac/Unix programmer stuck in an MS-DOS job    |
|Usenet=aml@world.std.com      |S. O'Conner "We Live in a dangerous Age       |
|bix=a.langmead CI$=72411,1560 | To say how you feel is to lay your own grave"|
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: maynor@Ra.MsState.Edu (Natalie Maynor)
Subject: Re: Quarterdeck refuses to answer my E-mail!!!!!!
Keywords: QEMM, customer support
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:34:28 GMT

Three different people from Quarterdeck responded to a question I asked  
right here.  I was impressed.  I'm also happy to report that the program
for getting rid of the mouse cursor mark works fine.  No more mouse debris
on my screen.
--
   Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: aml@world.std.com (Andrew M Langmead)
Subject: Re: DESQview semaphores?
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:57:13 GMT

>I have heard reference to DESQview semaphores for programming within a DV
>environment, but 2.4's manual does not list it as part of the API.  Is there a
>standard method for passing info to other programs running in DV to keep them
>them from bumping into each other?
 
[example deleted] 
 
>Can anyone shed any light on the
>subject and perhaps where I can find the necessary 
>documentation to implement?
 
DESQview has a form of interprocess communication called mailboxes. Each
task that is started gets one window object, one mailbox object, one keyboard
object, and one object queue (a place to look for which object has input
waiting for them.) The task can then create new window (which can be running
another task,) keyboard, or mailbox objects as well as the optional timer and
pointer objects. Two tasks (either in the same process, or in different
processes) can communicate between themselves. A mailbox is first created,
then it is opened, optionaly named, and then can be writen to by any task
or read from by the owner (the task that opened it.)
 
These mailboxes can also be used as semaphores. One task can lock on a 
mailbox and any other task that tries to lock will be suspended until
the first task unlocks the mailbox. Multilple locks on the same mailbox 
must be matched by an equal number of unlocks. Unlike Unix, you can't get
a negative lock count by unlocking more than locking.
 
You can find out about DESQview's API from:
 

1) Ralf Brown's Interrupt list (INTER32[ABC])
2) The DESQview specific extract of Ralf Brown's Interrupt list (DVINT32)
3) Ralf Brown's DESQview API bindings for Turbo C (DVGLU101).
 
All of these can be retrieved by FTP at
cs.cmu.edu:/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/ralf/pub
wsmr-simtel20.army.mil:PD1:<MSDOS.INFO>
and simtel mirrors.
 
4) Quarterdeck's API Reference Manual (price recently reduced to $25)
5) Quarterdeck's API C Library. (Don't know the current price.)
 
Can be ordered from Quarterdeck or development oriented software retailers.
 
Everything I've done in DESQview, I've used Quartedeck's libraries. I have
know experience using the info in the interrupt list directly, or the
DVGLUE package. No real reason, its just that it was supplied with the
job and I haven't had reason to use anything else.

-- 
|Andrew Langmead - A frustrated Mac/Unix programmer stuck in an MS-DOS job    |
|Usenet=aml@world.std.com      |S. O'Conner "We Live in a dangerous Age       |
|bix=a.langmead CI$=72411,1560 | To say how you feel is to lay your own grave"|
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 1992 19:40:50 -0400 
From: Matthew Edward Patton <mp52+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: BDF2SNF  - X fonts

Well, back to the old recurring topic, but isn't there a bdf to snf
converter for dv/X?  I looked at wuarchive.wustl (simtel mirror) but
didn't find it.  Can someone indicate a download location or even better
uuencode it and mail it my way?  I kinda need as soon as possible. 
Thanks for helping
From: geoff@pinoko.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Quarterdeck refuses to answer my E-mail!!!!!!
Keywords: QEMM, customer support
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:56:34 GMT
Reply-To: geoff@pinoko.berkeley.edu

I have sent several desperate messages to support@qdeck.com almost two  
weeks ago and have still not received any responses.  I have severe  
problems (machine lockup and file corruption) with QEMM. All the obvious  
troubleshooting procedures (e.g. NO everything flags) do not work.

As anyone ever gotten a response after E-mailing to QuarterDeck?

Should I just give up trying to get QEMM to work?  (It is totally useless  
in its current form.)

Or should I give up on Quarterdeck in general?

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Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: support@qdeck.com (Technical Support)
Subject: Re: Latest version of QEMM386
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:28:10 GMT
Keywords: QEMM386 Updates

In article <1992Oct9.151727.88@dcatlas.dot.gov> joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott) writes:
>D.Burns@massey.ac.nz (David Burns) writes:
>
>>What is the latest version of QEMM386?  As a registered of user of several
>>versions of QEMM, I'm displeased that I don't receive update notices.  Is
>>this lack of notification common?
>
>I've never gotten an update notice from Qdeck either!
>
>-JTT
>

As a general rule, we notify all registered users of major upgrades. Minor
upgrades (ie. 6.00 to 6.01 or somesuch) are generally compatability upgrades.
They add no new features, and if you are not experiencing a problem are
completely unnecessary. (If you still want it, call our customer service
at (800) 354-3222, and you can get it for a nominal charge, but really,
you almost certainly don't need it...)

Mr. Burns, I'm surprised you didn't recieve a notice when we released
version 6.0 of QEMM. I suspect something happened between here and
New Zealand. I'll let the powers that be know...

Mr. Trott, I'm not surprised you didn't recieve a notice. We don't have
you registered. (We have a James, Jane, and Jeff, but no Joe). Did you
send in your registration card? We can't notify you if we don't know
where you are...

-- 
Tom Bortels - Quarterdeck Office Systems - Internet Support 
    For questions or Technical Support, write to support@qdeck.com

Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
From: bodoh@cae.wisc.edu (Daniel Bohoh)
Subject: Re: Postscript viewers
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:16:28 CDT
Keywords: ps & dvx

In article <1bi8d0INN94p@rave.larc.nasa.gov> dave@monitor.larc.nasa.gov (Dave A. Hinde) writes:
> need a good postscript "viewer" that is compatible with DV/X.  It doesn't have
> run on the PC, only display the output there.  The files I will be viewing are
> anyone "ported" such a program, and if so is it available?  If not does anyone
>have any reccomendations?  

Yes, I have ported Ghostscript to run under DVX as an X client.  However
I have not yet released it because it is still buggy.  You can get
ghostscript for the PC from SIMTEL, but it won't be an X app.
From: garyrich@qdeck.com (Gary Rich)
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview
Subject: Re: Displaying Bitmaps as Backgrounds in DV/X
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:32:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Quarterdeck Office Systems, Santa Monica CA

In article <1992Oct8.161243.29177@inmet.camb.inmet.com> gjs@corsica.camb.inmet.com (George Snyder) writes:
>| 1)    The BACKDROP program that comes with DVX supports XPM and BMP
>|	files.  There is a version of BACKDROP available on our bbs that
>|	supports GIF.
>|
>| 2)    XV (also on the bbs and "all the usual places") can put a GIF or
>|	a JPEG file into the root window.
>
>I couldn't find XV in my "usual places", i.e. the desqview and dv-x
>directories at the wuarchive and oakland FTP sites (listed in the FAQ).
>I couldn't find either in the list of files on the QuarterDeck BBS.
>Could you be more specific about file, directory, and conference names?
>

I just looked myself, and you're right.  They aren't there.  They should be 
there.  They will be there.  Also, due to some political stuff that I don't
understand these files have been delayed in their journey to our bbs.
Untill this can be figured out and corrected please feel free to send a
request to support@qdeck.com and poor overworked Tom & I will mail you
uuencoded versions of the apps.  This should be very temporary.

Gary Rich		<support@qdeck.com> 
Newsgroups: comp.os.msdos.desqview