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From: carndt@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chris Arndt)
Subject: Re: 2-m repeaters
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 23:40:46 GMT

levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin) said:

If you want something with the ability to get repeaters sorted by
frequencey or call, i.e. database queries, have you asked ARRL about
availability of their database for use by a server somewhere?


I doubt the ARRL info is in any kind of a database file on disk.
There are too many duplications in the California info. The
way they have the info from the coordinators listed, our area
(central CA) shows up in both southern CA and Northern CA listings.
Seems like a waste of space and paper. I'd love to see it in machine
readable form. I've thought of doing CA myself, but lack the time.

Chris   KD6DSI



Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: jmiller@afit.af.mil (Jeffrey C Miller)
Subject: Re: Field Day and 2 Meters (was: Field Day Rules)
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 13:59:08 GMT

In article <32920098@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> paulz@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Paul Zander) writes:
>During Field Day in W6 land, there are always some activity on 2 meter
>simplex.  Some clubs have a 2 meter station for the entire contest
>period.  Most of the others use that band as an alternate when the HF
>ops need a break, or the equipment needs attention.  At times, the pile
>ups can sound like more like 20 meters!

Trey Garlough, WN4KKN, asked why FD groups in sparsely populated Sections
are at a disadvantage compared to groups in more heavily populated areas.
Unfortunately, his article expired before I could reply...anyway, the
comment above is part of the reason I proposed the idea.  The full
reasoning goes as follows:

1.  Assume the percentage of hams among the general population is uniform
throughout North America and that the percentage of hams participating in
Field Day is similarly uniform.

2.  Then it follows that FD groups in more densely populated areas have 
more of an opportunity to participate in short-range VHF and HF (when the
bands go south) than those groups in more remote locations.  After all, if
all same-mode QSO's count the same number of points, why bother to dig out
the weak ones?

3.  You'd think, though, that by Sunday morning most groups would have
worked all the locals and would be looking for distant stations.  My
experience in KH6 doesn't tend to prove this out, however.

Of course, all this begs the question of the real purpose of FD, as I
stated earlier...

73

-- 
Jeffrey C. Miller,  NH6ZW/N8,  AFA8JM         |  The Air Force is
AFIT School of Engineering     ^^^^^^         |  paying me to be a
Wright-Patterson AFB, OH     soon to be       |  student, not write this
jmiller@afit.af.mil            AFA1?? again   |  or any other opinion!
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: calinski@calspan.com (Peter Calinski)
Subject: Help for a damaged VHF antenna
Organization: Calspan Advanced Technology Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:26:13 GMT

My VHF marine radio was stolen recently.  In the process they ripped the lead
wire out of the antenna base.  I worked my way into the wire opening and
found that it seems the leadin was connected to a pair of coax wires.  It seems
that this pair of coax have the two center connectors soldered together and 
the two shields soldered together.  I gather the leadin had it's center 
conductor tied to the antenna center conductors and the leadin shield tied to 
the antenna coax shields.  I have three questions.

	1. Am I right on the connection on the leadin to the antenna?

	2. What type of coax was the leadin? 50 ohm or 75 etc?

	3. Should I use any special type of coax for this marine environment?

The unit operated from 156.05 MHz to 157.425 Mhz at 25 watts.

Thanks in advance

Pete

calinski@calspan.com
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: PVC pipe outdoors
Keywords: antenna pipe PVC
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:16:56 GMT
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group

In article <Jul.23.19.54.15.1992.14340@andromeda.rutgers.edu> chhibber@andromeda.rutgers.edu (The Purple Cow) writes:
>Hi!  Just as the smmary says:  Is regular PVC pipe good enough to use
>for an antenna mast?  The antenna will be a small 2m ant.  Probably 
>a Lazy-J or a 5/8 whip with radials.
>
>a)  Is PVC durable?  Will it live thru a few seasons?

PVC is durable as long as it is not exposed to sunlight. UV exposure weakens
the chemical bonds.

>b)  How long a length of PVC pipe will stand straight by itself?  What about
>    wind?  (This will be mounted off my roof, somehow).

This depends on diameter and wall thickness. Longer lengths of larger
diameter pipe will freestand while shorter lengths of small diameter 
pipe will. There are standard civil engineering formulas that will show
you what diameter and wall thickness is required for a given height to
be code compliant. Similarly, wind loading is a function of cross sectional
area and length. Larger pipes are stiffer than smaller pipes. Four inch
PVC will selfsupport for any reasonable VHF vertical. If the pipe is
less than four feet long, half inch pipe is suitable. Longer than that,
it whips unacceptably in the wind.

>c)  If PVC cannot take the "elements", will painting or protecting it help?

Yes. Painting will reduce the amount of UV striking the material. A high
titanium oxide containing white paint is best.

>d)  Will it affect antenna performance?  I don't think so, but.......

Metallic base paints can affect antenna performance. Such paints include
"aluminum" paint and metal "flake" paints. Radome paint is a very good
choice since it's formulated to work with antennas. For high power work,
PVC itself is a RF absorber and can melt. But that's unlikely at modest
amateur power levels.

>What about PVC for Quads?

By operating strictly under compression, smaller pipe can be used for a 
quad than for free standing structures. Again, protection from UV exposure
is a must. Fiberglass tubing offers much better strength to weight ratios
for this application.

PVC *can* be used outside, but there are better materials. Fiberglass
tubing is better. Plumber's delight all metal construction is better.
Even bamboo is better. PVC pipe has the advantage of being cheap and
widely available. All metal construction, such as the popular J-pole
made from copper plumbing pipe, is an excellent antenna solution. It
not only has good strength, but it also offers a direct ground connection
for lightning protection. This is usually missing from designs that
depend on insulating materials for structural support.

Gary KE4ZV
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: vail@tegra.COM (Johnathan Vail)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: mobile 146/440 antenna recommendations
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:47:59 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Tegra, Inc., Billerica, MA
In-reply-to: kwmc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com's message of 28 Jul 92 19:37:26 GMT


In article <1992Jul28.193726.3939@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> kwmc@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ken.cochran) writes:

   I'm looking to put a dualband antenna on my car, and wonder what
   people would recommend given the following constraints ...

	   Must handle > 45 W  transmit
	   good efficient radiator at or near the horizon
	   not glass mounted
	   as much gain as possible
	   the shorter the better
	   low cost
	   black anodized finish preferred

I have used an Austin 500C with great results for several years.  It
meets all your requirements (except it isn't anodized, it is still
black).

In simple A/B comparison with a Larsen 2/70 about twice its physical
size I found it a tad weak in 2m performance and much better in 440.

Physically it looks like the cellular antennas with the thick part
below the piggly-wiggly except the top part on the 500c is straight.
I think he was the one who designed those cell phone antennas in the
first place so the design is similar.

jv


"Don't try this at home kids"
 _____
|     | Johnathan Vail     vail@tegra.com     (508) 663-7435
|Tegra| jv@n1dxg.ampr.org    N1DXG@448.625-(WorldNet)
 -----  MEMBER: League for Programming Freedom (league@prep.ai.mit.edu)
From: dbp@ecl.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 92 Camry Mobile
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:45:11 EDT
Organization: Engineering Computer Lab, Pennsylvania State University

In article <9207281349.AA08197@ucsd.edu>, CELLIS%BROCKVMA.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu writes:
>>I AM HAVING TROUBLE GETTING INFO FROM TOYOTA ABOUT INSTALLING
>                      5555555555555555555555555
>    My local Toyota service manager confirmed what other posters
> to this net have said and Toyota re-iterates - DON'T do it.
> 
>>146 MHZ AND 440 MHZ RIGS IN A 92 CAMRY.  ALL THEY SAY IS "DON'T
>>DO IT".  THE OWNERS MANUAL STATES AT THE FRONT OF THE BOOK TO NOT
>>INSTALL TWO-WAY RADIOS AND IT REPEATS THE STATEMENT IN THE SECTION
>>ON AIR BAGS.  CERTAINLY, I DON'T WANT TO KEY THE RIG AND HAVE THE
>>AIR BAG DEPLOY...:-)
>  55555555555555
> Don't worry about that.  The Car won't run!!!

Will this affect 1986 and 1991 Camrys as well, or just the 1992??
(I own the 1986 one and my parents one the second)

-----------------------------------------------------------
David Perrussel  -  Penn State University
dbp@ecl.psu.edu     bg656@cleveland.freenet.edu    dbp@eclu.psu.edu
Those who can but do not think for themselves 
are undue burdens on society. -DBP 1991
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel)
Subject: Need 6-pin plug for Kenwood TR-7800
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 03:36:29 GMT
Organization: DAFCO: OS/2 Software Support & Consulting

I need a source for 6-pin plugs for Kenwood TR-7800 xcvr; I'm
trying to get onto packet and I think I'll have to make my own
plug - I could also use a wiring diagram since I don't currently have
the manual for this radio. Thanks.

-- 
Dave Feustel N9MYI <feustel@netcom.com>
---
What's the different between a Salem Witch Hunter and a modern day
Drug Warrior? - 3 centuries.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: agterkam@fwi.uva.nl (Dirk-Jan Agterkamp (I89))
Subject: Silly talk, music on the radio
Summary: Silly talk, Music on the radio
Keywords: Music, Radio
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 08:15:18 GMT

	RTTY, Telex, Morse, FAX etc, are part of my favorite music,
	so I wouldn't be allowed to make any transmission because my 
	definition of music is absolute wide, even noise can be nice
	music, so 

		WHAT A SILLY SUGGESTION FOOKS.

	You may transmit anything you like, ore nothing at all, depending
	on your own definition of music. 
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: chuck@eng.umd.edu (Chuck Harris - WA3UQV)
Subject: Re: Field Day Bulletin needed
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 17:13:35 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Department of Electrical Engineering
Distribution: na

In article <1992Jul24.071118.19961@ee.gatech.edu> tucker@eedsp.gatech.edu (Jeff Tucker) writes:
>Well, through my own blunder, I managed to lose the field day
>bulletin.  And here it is time to send in the logs.  If anyone
>has a copy of the bulletin that they could send me, I'd really
>appreciate it.  Looks live we've bettered our score this year,
>and I hate to lose the points.

Me too!  Only, I didn't receive the bulletin the first time, but sure would
like the extra points :-)

>Thanks and 73
>Jeff N9HZQ
>-- 

Chuck Harris - WA3UQV		| Did Field Day but not submitting logs.
chuck@eng.umd.edu		|
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: amateurs in history
From: isoper@matrix.cs.wright.edu
Date: 21 Jul 92 09:45:30 EDT
Organization: Wright State University College of Engineering and Computer Science
Nntp-Posting-User: isoper

In article <76203@ut-emx.uucp>, oo7@ut-emx.uucp (Derek Wills) writes:
> kludge@grissom.larc.nasa.gov (Scott Dorsey) asks:
>>Does anyone else know of similar historical (or biblical) figures?
> 
> Isn't there some guy in the Bible called Ham?
> 
> 
> Derek Wills (AA5BT, G3NMX)
> Department of Astronomy, University of Texas, 
> Austin TX 78712.  (512-471-1392)
> oo7@astro.as.utexas.edu 
> oo7@emx.utexas.edu

There was a famous PRIMATE Astronaut named HAM, I believed he worked
on 80 meters during his brief flight in space with a trailing wire 
antenna from his Mercury capsule on CW.

--- WB8CEH Wes  WPAFB/WRL/WSU
From: FBCABAC%CFRVM.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Digitized Music OK?
Date: 29 Jul 1992 04:55:45 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Some have suggested that if music is digitized first, then it is OK
to transmit (packet, RTTY, SSTV of sheet music, etc.).  I've even
seen Wayne Green advocate this in "73 Amateur Radio".  This would probably
be within the "spirit of the law" - that is, not the type of music we
hear on the FM broadcast band.  Extending this logic further could lead
to trouble, though.  For example, could I transmit business communications
if they were digitally encoded (perhaps in CW) first?  Perhaps music
should be defined more explicitly in the next rewrite of the rules.

     Ross N4OJU      FBCABAC@CFRVM.CFR.USF.EDU
From: russell@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (russell.w.keating)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HR2610, need freq expansion mod
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:40:09 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

I am posting this for a friend.  I am not familiar with the HR2610.

I am looking for mods for the Uniden HR2610.  In particular, a mod to
expand the operating frequency range.  I have looked at 
garfield.catt.ncsu.edu, but did not see any mods for this radio there.

Thanks,
-- 
Russell Keating, N9LIL ------------> Send email to: russell1@ihlpb.ATT.COM
Xref: sparky rec.radio.amateur.misc:13009 sci.electronics:13668
From: ehare@arrl.org (Ed Hare KA1CV)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: ARRL 'RFI' Products Resource List - part 2 of 10
Date: 29 Jul 92 11:51:00 EDT
Organization: American Radio Relay League

The American Radio Relay League Technical Department is compiling a
directory of products that would be useful to an amateur experiencing
an interference problem. I am looking for additions to the companies
and products described in the attached list.

Please email any additions or corrections to ehare@arrl.org. Our news
feed has been a bit spotty of late and I don't want to miss any
information. 73, Ed

-----
Ed Hare, KA1CV                  ehare@arrl.org
or postal mail to ARRL HQ
-----

High-pass filters

Note: High-pass filters are usually available from the local electronics 
distributor that sells parts to your local electronics service businesses. 
Consult the Yellow Pages under "Electronic components - wholesale and 
manufacturer."

   Channel Master              Models: Several
   Industrial Park Dr
   Smithfield NC 27577
   919-934-9711

   Cornell Dublier Electronics
   1605 E Rodney French Blvd
   New Bedford MA 02741
   617-996-8561

   Industrial Communications Engineers Model: 430 series high-pass
   POB 18495
   Indianapolis IN 46218-0495
   317-545-5412

   N6YHY TVI Filters           Model: Yak Plus TVI Filter
   928 Yellow Brick Rd
   Modesto CA 95351
   (209) 531-1236

   Radio Shack                 Catalog: 15-579 75-ohm
                               Catalog: 15-582 300-ohm
                               Catalog: 15-581 300-ohm

   Ten Tec                     Model: 5060
   1185 Dolly Parton Parkway   
   Sevierville TN 37862
   615-453-7172

   Winegard                    Model: HP-2700
   3000 Kirkwood St
   Burlington IA 52601-1007

-----
Ed Hare, KA1CV                  ehare@arrl.org
American Radio Relay League
225 Main St.
Newington, CT  06111            There is no limit to what you can 
(203) 666-1541 - voice          accomplish if you don't care who
ARRL Laboratory Supervisor      gets the credit. - Harry S Truman
RFI, xmtr and rcvr testing  
-----
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gws
Subject: Propagation Forecast Bulletin 30  ARLP030
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 03:01:09 GMT


============================================================== 
| 	Automatic relayed from packet radio via              | 
| N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-895-2553                              |
==============================================================

ZCZC AP38
QST de W1AW
Propagation Forecast Bulletin 30  ARLP030
>From Tad Cook, KT7H, Seattle, WA
July 25, 1992
Relayed by KB8NW/OBS & BARF-80 BBS
To All Radio Amateurs

SB PROP ARL ARLP030
ARLP030 Propagation de KT7H

The solar flux dropped about 50 points this past week.  This is a
return to the suddenly lower levels that we have observed over the
past few months.  Activity dropped so fast recently that many
observers expect a rise in average levels of solar activity,
probably peaking around September with solar flux around 160.  This
is because the drop was sp sudden that it doesn't track with models
based upon past solar cycles.

This rise should be only temporary, as Solar Cycle 22, now in its
70th month, continues its decline.  A year from now the projected
flux should be about 126, and at the same time in 1994, about 106,
followed by 83 a year after that, and reaching a minimun aroud 75
in early 1997.  This would place the next solar cycle peak around or
just after the turn of the century.

As this was being written on Thursday night, the solar flux has
dropped below 100 and geomagnetic conditions are unsettled.  The
stormiest days this week were the 16th and 22nd, with disturbances
from flares and coronal holes.  In the next month there is a chance
of more disturbances around August 9 based upon activity in the
last solar rotation.  Around that date the solar flux should peak
for the month near 170.

Sunspot numbers from July 16 through 22 were 195, 192, 161, 132,
110, 84 and 90, with a mean of 137.7.  10.7 CM solar flux for the
same period was 156.6, 135.9, 126.1, 118.5, 123.5, 108 and 104, with
a mean of 124.7.
NNNN
From: woods@glas.rtsg.mot.COM (Simon Woodworth)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ARRL Bulletin 68 ARLB068 / Name Change
Date: 21 Jul 1992 09:27:23 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

>
>In article <lzcm!ph.stevew@netcom.com>,
>stevew@netcom.com (Steven Wilson) writes:
>
>> ... [ARRL is] considering changing the name to something like
>> "American Amateur Radio League" or AARL.  So What da ya all think?
>

Does this mean that all members will become known as AARLvarks?
Simon Woodworth.

===================================================
Simon Woodworth.         |  woods@glas.rtsg.mot.com
Motorola (Ireland) Ltd., | Don't blame my employers
Cork, Ireland.           | for anything I say!  :-)
---------------------------------------------------
Real men don't set stun! - Star Trek bumper sticker
===================================================
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Electronic Ignition & 2M Transmit
From: f_riskph@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Date: 28 Jul 92 02:20:02 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

I'm interested in mounting a 45W 2-meter rig in a 1991 Oldsmobile 98.
Am I likely to have trouble with the electronic ignition or other
computer controlled bells and whistles on the car when I transmit?

Any suggestions would be welcome.

Paul Risk, N1DJD, Nacogdoches, TX
f_riskph@ccsvax.sfasu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: johnl@avs.com (John W. Langner)
Subject: Re: AARL vs ARRL
Organization: Advanced Visual Systems Inc.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:02:47 GMT
X-Posted-From: phobos.avs.com
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul23.024702.6349@cs.yale.edu> ewing-martin@CS.YALE.EDU (Martin Ewing) writes:
>There is some precedent for keeping a slightly antique name like the
>American Radio Relay League.  The main professional association for
>computer science is the Association for Computing Machinery.  The ACM
>periodically has to deal with suggestions for a more "modern" name,
>perhaps one that emphasizes software or systems.  (Most computer
>scientists know little about "machinery" these days.  They are
>appliance operators like a lot of hams; the emphasis is on software,
>algorithms, protocols, etc.)
>
>ARRL and ACM, as names, point to the tradition, origin, and history
>of the organizations.  I think that's worth keeping.  Arguments about
>the cost of new letterheads, etc. seem rather unimportant by comparison.
>
>Martin
>AA6E
>

This is a true story:

A long time ago, one of my college professors had an ACM membership
card with the name "Roy's HP".  (I'm not sure about the capitalization
and apostrophe.)

Roy explained that he would have joined the ACM if it was named the
Association for Computing Machinists.  Since it was an association for
				----
computing machinery, his HP calculator joined the organization.
		---

So, if you don't like the name American Radio Relay League, don't join.
Enroll your radio relay instead!

John WB2OSZ

-- 
John Langner					johnl@avs.com
Advanced Visual Systems Inc.			
300 Fifth Ave.					(617) 890 4300 x2122
Waltham, MA 02154  U.S.A.			(617) 890 8287	(fax)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: johan@ece.orst.edu (Johan. K. Reinalda)
Subject: Radio shack 49mc W/T schematic wanted
Organization: Oregon State University, Corvallis
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:05:04 GMT

Hi all,
i have been looking for the schematic of the el-cheapo $25 RS 49Mc
walky-talky. The local store says they are on backorder, and they
have no idea when they might be available.
I want to check out wether it is feasible to do some 9600bd on 50mc
with those things, before i dig in and buy a few...
If anyone has it and would be willing to send me a copy,
i'd be much obliged !

Thanks,
73
Johan, WG7J

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gordon@westford.ccur.com (Gordon Weast)
Subject: Re: 2M Glass Mt. Losses?
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp. Westford MA.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:02:49 GMT

My experience with an Avanti glass mount was quite good.  You MUST remember
to ground the coax to the car at the coupler box.  The Avanti comes (came?)
with a clip and a short piece of braid.  I was able to find a screw near
the mount point that made a good connection to the body.  In this
configuration the antenna works better than a quarter wave and similar to a
5/8 wave.  Not as good as the 1/2 wave J that I had on the bumper for a
while.

Another friend installed one of these and didn't ground it and found that
performance was very bad.

The downside with these antennas is that it will pop off very easily if you
hit an obstruction like a low garage door.  I stopped using it when I started
keeping the car in the garage.

Gordon Weast
wa9wtk
Opinions?  Who me?
From: jseboldt@pnet51.orb.mn.org (John Seboldt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Inexpensive, simple 12V SSB rig suggestions?
Date: 26 Jul 92 22:40:12 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

Simple? Try the Ten Tec Argosy -- if you can find one.  That's my only rig.
You can get one with a digital readout -- not as accurate as a TS950, but
decent.  You can actually work on the thing.  Mine is a "camper" rig as well
as a home rig -- kind of a beater.

: John Seboldt...Minneapolis, MN...As a ham, K0JD...as a human,       :
: right-brained yet right-handed...as a musician, techie yet creative :
:   UUCP: {crash, kksys, petrus, quest}!orbit!pnet51!jseboldt         :
:   ARPA: crash!orbit!pnet51!jseboldt@nosc.mil                        :
:   INET: jseboldt@pnet51.orb.mn.org                                  :