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From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: Pens weekend box scores/notes
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:03:46 GMT

Sorry this is so late.  I missed all but the last period of the Pens/Jets
game, so I had to wait until I could get hold of a newspaper for the box score.
I'll post a summary of the Pens/Flames game and last period summary of the
Pens/Jets game in a separate post.

NOTES: C. Martin Straka, RW. Mike Needham and D. Peter Ahola were all recalled
from Cleveland after being sent down for a day.  D. Bryan Fogarty remains in
Cleveland, where he is undergoing conditioning to get back into game shape.
Fogarty missed over a month due to pneumonia.

SAT. 1/9  PENS-3 FLAMES-2

FIRST PERIOD: SCORING: 1, PGH, Murphy (Straka, Tippett) :35.  2, PGH, Mullen
(McEachern, Murphy) 7:04.  3, CAL, Reichel (Fluery, Suter)14:41ppg.  PENALTIES:
Errey, PGH(holding)10:02.  Tocchet, PGH(high-sticking)14:14.  Makarov, CAL
(roughing)14:41.  PGH, bench penalty(too many men, served by Jagr)16:51.

SECOND PERIOD: SCORING: None.  PENALTIES: Nieuwendyk, CAL(holding)6:01.  
Makarov, CAL(tripping)9:01.  Musil, CAL(tripping)12:56.  Fluery, CAL(slashing)
14:11.  Stevens, PGH(hooking)15:15

THIRD PERIOD: SCORING: 4, CAL, Suter(Makarov)12:55.  5, PGH, Stevens(Tocchet,
Francis)15:27.  PENALTIES: None.

SHOTS ON GOAL:
Pittsburgh: 13-10-7=30
Calgary:      8-7-9=24

GOALIES: 
Barrasso (24 shots, 22 saves.  25-8-3)
Vernon (30 shots, 27 saves.)

Ref: Koharski  Linesmen: Collins, Pateman.

SUN. 1/10 PENS-2 JETS-3

FIRST PERIOD: SCORING: 1, PGH, Murphy(Francis, Tocchet)8:58ppg. 2, PGH, Mullen
(McEachern, U. Samuelsson)9:26ppg.  3, WIN, Selanne(Housley)13:02ppg. PENALTIES
Eagles, WIN, major-game misconduct(high-sticking)7:27.  Tocchet, PGH(roughing)
14:58.  Domi, WIN(roughing)14:58. King, WIN(roughing)14:58.  Stevens, PGH
(hooking)16:32.  Stevens, PGH(interference)18:49.

SECOND PERIOD: SCORING: 4, WIN, Tkachuk(Olausson, Housley)12:03ppg 5, WIN,
Housley(Selanne, Zhamnov)17:14.  PENALTIES: U. Samuelsson, PGH (holding)4:32. 
Murphy, PGH(hooking)11:45.  Numminen, WIN(interference)13:09.  Tocchet, PGH
double minor(roughing)17:22.  Shannon, WIN double minor(roughing)17:22.

THIRD PERIOD: SCORING: None.  PENALTIES: Steen, WIN(hooking)1:34.  Shannon,
WIN major-game misconduct(high-sticking)8:24.

SHOTS ON GOAL:
Pittsburgh: 10-11-9=30
Calgary:    10-16-3=29

GOALIES:
Wregget (29 shots, 26 saves 4-3-1)
Essensa (30 shots, 28 saves 15-13-4)

REF: Hoggarth  Linesmen: Knox, Sharrers

Lori
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From: wilson@cs.ucf.edu (tom wilson)
Subject: Mon/Har empty netter
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:29:59 GMT

Before my question...

For those who didn't see it, Hartford pulled the goalie on a delayed penalty
and shot the puck from behind the Montreal goal right down the center of
the ice to score in their own goal. If I heard on the news right, it made
the score 6-1 and the final was 7-5. So it was the game winner (using the
dumb def. of a game winner). Maybe someone who saw it can say more.

So, my question: Gosselin was at the bench and skated back toward the goal
nowhere near saving the puck. What if he had saved it? Obviously it could be a
too-many-men-on-the-ice penalty. But is it just a 2-minute minor? It's a nice
trade: no goal and 4v4 since both teams get a penalty. Does this fall under
the penalty shot rule?

Tom
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From: wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk)
Subject: Re: SATELLITE TV: Has anyone seen Bruin feeds?
Reply-To: wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 15:47:25 GMT

  Has anyone seen any of the WSBK road feeds on satellite? The last one I
found was for the Jets game. It was on Ku band on Anik E1. I was extremely
disappointed not to find the Pens-Bruins feed last Tuesday.

Boris Volk
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From: pp21+@andrew.cmu.edu (Paul Andrew Platosh)
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Subject: Re: The (quasi) official Board Of Gov's ruling for '93 draft...
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:25:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.4fIq5kO00Uh747E3cR
Organization: Sophomore, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

>Hartford must be ticked, too.

Yes, Hartford is ticked, to put it mildly.  It just isn't fair.  When
the WHA merged into the NHL, it didn't have Blockbuster, or Disney to
support them financially.  WHA teams got screwed hard because they got
no special consideration.  Now, this expansion is going to be spoonfed. 
Hartford just doesn't have the cash to put on a show, and we struggle to
stay alive.  Now we get a shitty draft pick, in our worst season in the
NHL (in my opinion).  And to top things off, GM Brian Burke was
threatened with fines from the Board of Directors if he tried to
complain about the draft. Miami needs to have a bed of roses, you see.

In classic Whaler Fan fashion, all I can do is bite my tongue, shake my
fist, and wait till next year.

--Paul PLatosh
"World's Only Whaler Fan"
From: rmutton@alfred.carleton.ca (Ross Mutton)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Kozlov (was WJHC: Scoring Stats)
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:38:16 GMT
Organization: Carleton University

In <9301051749.AA03134@booth.usask.ca> glc39@booth.usask.ca (Glenn Chin) writes:

>>From: etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson)
>>Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 15:47:51 GMT

>> All Point Scorers for each Team:
>> ================================
>>
>> RUSSIA
>> ------              Goals   Assists  Points
>>
>> Igor Alexandrov	3	4	7
>>	:
>> Victor Kozlov		1	0	1

>Kozlov's only point in Russia's seven games came during the 16-0 win over
>Japan on Dec. 26.  However, he supposedly had an excellent game
>against Finland on Jan. 1 after teaming with Alexei Yashin.  Kozlov is
>expected to be taken first or second overall in the 1993 NHL entry
>draft.  Dave Hodge, now host of a talk show on TSN, predicted that the
>Senators will take Kozlov over Alexandre Daigle to keep fellow Russian Yashin
>company.  Another thing to bear in mind is that John Ferguson may have a bias
>toward big strong players because of his own style when he played.  Kozlov is
>about 40 pounds heavier than Daigle.  Hmm...do we have another case of Doug
>Wickenheiser and Denis Savard brewing? :-)

>With the new agreement between the NHL and the Russian hockey
>federation, does the team that draft Kozlov have to wait until the 1997-98
>season to get his services?  I think masochistic(:-) Ottawa fans can wait until
>1997 for a potential superstar.  Can Bay Area, Anaheim, or Miami fans wait that
>long?  It's conceivable that if Ottawa takes Daigle, San Jose will draft Kozlov
>and trade his rights for immediate help.  Personally, I feel the
>Senators will take Daigle because of his marketing potential in the
>largely bilingual city of Ottawa (unless the Nordiques do something
>foolish).

>Glenn

The press here in Ottawa is also putting forth the theory that Ottawa
will draft Daigle and then work a deal with the Nordiques who look to
make him a jewel in their plan to build a new arena with luxury boxes.
With the Anaheim and Miami teams getting first draft picks in '94 and
the new teams getting a better draft deal in '93 than that achieved by
Ottawa and Tampa Bay in '92, Ottawa may not be able to turn down an
attractive offer from Quebec rumoured to include Forsberg.
Speculation abounds, especially when Marcel Aubut is involved.

Ross Mutton
Carleton University
rmutton@ccs.carleton.ca
613-788-3814   FAX 613-788-3928
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From: kmews@minnie.imd.nrc.ca
Subject: Re: leafs (PLAYOFFS and EXPANSION DRAFT)
Organization: NRC-Institute for Marine Dynamics
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:15:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.152959.3030@mtroyal.ab.ca>, caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
> 
> Although the choice between Fuhr and Potvin may be tough, I don't think it's
> that hard at all. The Leafs can keep both of them by protecting Potvin and
> exposing Fuhr. I doubt that the expansion teams would take Fuhr, a 31 year
> old goalie with maybe four more years left in him, who makes $1.6 million 
> dollars a year. His age and the fact that he is overpaid will keep them away.

But these expansion teams have a lot more money than Tampa Bay and Ottawa.

KM
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From: dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (D. Chhabra)
Subject: Red Army vs. Habs 31 Dec 1975
Reply-To: dchhabra@stpl.UUCP (D. Chhabra)
Organization: Solar Terresterial Physics Laboratory, ISTS
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 19:56:12 GMT

Does anyone know how I could obtain a tape of this game?  My brother was in
Montreal recently and I asked him to check out the Forum gift shop, but it
was closed when he was there, so I still don't know if it's available.  Any
help would be greatly appreciated.

dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca
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Subject: Mario Lemieux
From: rx84335@mcvax4.d48.lilly.com (BENVENGA MARK J)
Date: 7 Jan 1993 08:23 EST  
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Lilly Research Laboratories
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    Lines: 5

I just heard that Mario will be out 2-3 weeks.
Can someone confirm this?

Mark
From: vstem@cobra.calgary.chevron.com (D. Stewart McLeod)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: San Jose Tickets
Keywords: San Jose tickets
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:18:56 GMT
Organization: chevron

A friend from work is going down to San Jose for a CISCO router course
and is interested in playing a little golf while he is down there.

Can someone please send me email (vstem@calgary.chevron.com) about the
availability of tickets for the San Jose Sharks. How much are tickets
are they readily available?

Thanks in advance.

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CPTC					          Tel: (403) 234-5810
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From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: leafs (PLAYOFFS and EXPANSION DRAFT)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:13:47 GMT

In article <19484@mindlink.bc.ca> John_Carson@mindlink.bc.ca (John Carson) writes:
>Toronto has three goaltenders..I thought 1yr players were excempt from the
>expansion draft. So Then they protect only Fuhr and Potvin is not available
>at all.
>
>That leaves Wamsley the only extra.

Actually, no.  The key is that it's first year "pros" and not first year
"NHL players."  Potvin, who played in the AHL last season, would thus be
available if not protected.

===============================================================================
GO CALGARY FLAMES!  Mike Vernon for Vezina!  Gary Roberts for Hart and Selke!
GO EDMONTON OILERS!  Go for playoffs!  Dave Manson for Norris!
GO WINNIPEG JETS!  Teemu Selanne for Calder!  Mike Eagles for Selke!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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Subject: Re: BARRY MELROSE SHOULD BE AXED
From: jmarold@netlink.cts.com (Jeff Marold)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 23:15:58 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

epritcha@s.psych.uiuc.edu (EVAN pritchard) writes:
> What did you think of Melrose when the Kings had their fabulous (and
> surprising) start?  If anyone had told LA that they would be 5 (4?)
During the "Fabulous (and surprising) start " BM was quoted as saying he 
didnt care that the team was giving up so many shots and so many goals - 
"as long as they were winning". Well, no they're giving up MORE goals and 
MORE shots and NOT winning. Mike Murphy might as well be coaching. 

As far as goaltending goals, "ye reap what ye shall sow" - count the 
number of times a Kings defenseman stands up an offensive player at the 
blue line.

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From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL Skills Competition: Iafrate Breaks 100 Barrier
Date: 9 Jan 93 19:20:45 -0700
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1993Jan9.012350.3020@mtroyal.ab.ca>, caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
> In article <1993Jan7.053603.18065@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>, golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>> 
>> The last time that Iafrate was at the All-star game, he won the hardest
>> shot competition and beat Al MacInnis.  I think Heavy Metal Al also
>> won the speed-skating competition that year also.
> 
> Are you certain of that? I can't remember anybody ever beating MacInnis in the
> All-Star game hardest shot competition. It's only been held for three years...
> 
I don't remember the year, except that it was the first year of the
skills competition.  Somebody beat MacInnis in the hardest shot competition,
I don't remember whether it was Iafrate or somone else (I think Iafrate
won fastest skater the same year).  Iafrate was with the Leafs at the time.

The reason (or excuse) was that the player's were told they could only 
take two steps up to the puck before shooting.  MacInnis was one of
the first to shoot, and obeyed this rule, while later shooters took longer
skate-ups.

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Lorne Epp                                               epp@mala.bc.ca

P.S.  Canucks beat Islanders 5-4 after spotting them the first 3 goals.
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From: calexan1@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER  ALEXANDER)
Subject: Re: Hawks News 1-4
Originator: calexan1@c00517-118rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: calexan1@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER  ALEXANDER)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:00:21 GMT


In article <1993Jan4.155119.1910@news.acns.nwu.edu>, scholvin@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (John Scholvin) writes:
|>Saturday, after my 36 hour hangover cleared up (I'm getting too old
|>for this), I dragged myself out of bed to watch the Hawks take on
|>the red-hot Capitals. The Hawks and Caps skated to a 2-2 tie. The
|>game matched two of the best team defenses in the league, and the
|>results were what you might expect: not too many fantastic scoring
|>opportunities. In fact, the Hawks limited the Caps to only five
|>shots on goal in the entire third period, and one in the overtime
|>period. There were odd moments throughout the broadcast where the
|>fans would cheer for no apparent reason, and it turns out that many
|>had brought TV's and radios to check out the Redskins whipping on
|>the Vikings (yes!).

I was at this game (yeah, I drove 5 hours from Raleigh NC to watch a tie,
but it was a blast anyway!) - the Cap Centre was putting up game 
news on the scoreboards during the game (i.e. Redskins ball on Vik 20 
yard line, etc.), and that would cause the crowd to go nuts. It was 
every bit as hilarious to the players, who appeared a bit
confused sometimes as to the mysterious cheers during breaks for
penalties, face-offs, even the commercial breaks. They also put up the ABC
broadcast on the big screens during the intermissions (I think they should
have had that picture-in-picture thing, and show both of 'em).

And I can die happy now that I've seen The Eagle in goal for a game.

(P.S. If anyone else was at this game and saw some short guy with long
hair and a Raleigh IceCaps jersey, that was me)

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Chris Alexander       |"We need, in love, to practice only this:
calexan1@eos.ncsu.edu | letting each other go."
                      |                     -Rainer Maria Rilke
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Go IceCaps    |                  My spotlight goalie:
   Blackhawks |                 the IceCaps' Jim Mill 
   Hornets    | Jim is the backup to Smokey Reddick, and is every bit as good
   Wolfpack   | in a different way. He uses his size and speed to great
                advantage, and is currently on a hot streak with the 'Caps.
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From: lucchesi@wam.umd.edu (Rob Lucchesi)
Subject: Brian Leetch
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:01:18 GMT


Is Brian Leetch hurt?  I haven't heard anything about it (but I've not
been reading closely).

Rob
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Nordiques: Team of the mid-90's
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 07:03:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.073131.28539@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (KIRK MULLER or LARRY WALKER) writes:
>
>Being a die-hard Hab fan, this is very difficult for me to say, but...
>
>I think the Nordiques will be to the 90's what the Oilers were to the 80's.
>I realize Pittsburgh is a very talented team, and will probably give Quebec
>a lot of trouble, but consider the Quebec roster:
>
>1. Joe Sakic ('nuff said)
>2. Owen Nolan (35 goals or so can help win games)
>3. Mike Ricci (gritty player who can score too)
>4. Valeri Kamensky (has yet to prove worth, but could be a star)
>5. Ron Hextall (great goalie for many years to come)
>6. Mats Sundin (look at his point totals)
>7. Peter Forsburg (leading scorer at World Juniors; 10 points vs Japan!!)
>8. Todd Warriner (could be another good player)
>9. Steve Duchesne (look at his point totals)
>10. When the Flyers miss the playoffs, Quebec will get a very good draft pick
>11. The good players *already* making up the supporting cast
>
>
>I think a lot of people are overlooking #7 when analyzing the Lindros trade.
>Looks to me like that trade alone is worth 1 or 2 cups.
>

I don't disagree with what you say, but politics will likely make #7 an
Ottawa Senator...so #7 is as likely to be Daigle as Forsberg.
The Nordiques could also use a franchise-type defenseman,
or an least a couple really solid defensive-type defensmen with enough
skills to play with the forwards.

I think the Nordiques made a mistake in not getting Kevin Lowe...
not that he is a better defenseman than most of the bodies they
have back there right now, but his experience and leadership, I think,
would have helped a lot in the playoffs in the first couple of years.
Craig Patrick did go out and get Trottier and Mullen for the Penguins...
you know.  Both the Islanders and the Oilers did have some embarassing
playoff losses in the early years of their teams, I think, in part,
because they did not have a Trottier or a Lowe.  The Nordiques might
have had to give up a slightly better prospect in lieu of the money
involved in the Ranger deal, but I think that it was a move they
should have made.

Gerald
From: rkd@usday32.Dayton.NCR.COM (Ron Dabrowski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Yuri Khmylev
Date: 7 Jan 93 14:22:24 GMT
Reply-To: rkd@usday32.UUCP (Ron Dabrowski)
Distribution: world
Organization: Dayton Unix Tower Support Center

In article <1ig1lnINNa69@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson) writes:

>Is Khmylev still taking a regular turn on the first line with Lafontaine and
>Mogilny, or has the status quo (i.e., Andreychuk) been restored?  Any feel as
>to the permenence of Khmylev on *the* line, based upon his performances to date
>with said pair?  
>

	The status quo has not been restored. Brad May is on the Left Wing, 
since Muckler felt that Mogilny and LaFontaine were not getting enough protect-
ion.    

>Brad

Ron
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From: smith@phobos.cira.colostate.edu
Subject: Sakic and Sundin injury status??
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 21:08:09 GMT
Reply-To: smith%sol.dnet@sirius.cira.colostate.edu
Organization: Colorado State Univ, CIRA

Has anyone heard the details of the injuries to Sakic and Sundin?

Smitty
smith%phobos.dnet@sirius.cira.colostate.edu
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Don Cherry's Coach's Corner summary - Jan. 2
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 09:08:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.075559.23688@hubcap.clemson.edu> jwodzia@dino.eng.clemson.edu (john wodziak) writes:
>
>"Sorry about this but its soapbox time"
>*Mike Gartner is THE most underrated unrespected player of all time.
>*Just think of the company that he has and will pass this season.
>*do YOU realize that he has scored/will score as many goals as 
>*Guy "The Flower" LaFleur? Think about that before flaming me.
>"I'm off the soapbox for now....but the %^%$^$% Rangers still suck"
>

Mike Gartner has scored the most unproductive 600 goals in the history
of hockey.  He is a nice guy and all...but basically useless in the
crunch.  I concede that he is an extremely nice guy...but he is walking,
breathing proof that nice guys finish last!

In every playoff series between the Washington Capitals and the New
York Rangers, Mike Gartner has been on the losing side.  When Mike
Gartner was traded from Minnesota to the Rangers, the Capitals and
their fans knew at that moment that they wouldn't be losing in the
playoffs to the Rangers.

Gerald
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