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From: andy@cs.caltech.edu (Andy Fyfe)
Subject: Re: g++ Installation problems
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:06:37 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.202714.18641@spool.cs.wisc.edu> kevinc@jomby.cs.wisc.edu (Kevin Chin) writes:
>1) Which one should I install ?
>	(version @osu in directory "csvax" or under "languages"
>	or the Installable version)?

The one in csvax is a recent copy from ftp.cs.caltech.edu.  Gcc is 1.40,
and g++ is 1.39.1.  The one in languages is an older version, with gcc
and g++ 1.39.  The installable version seems to be 1.37 (according to the
README file).

Gcc 2.1 is available on ftp.cs.caltech.edu.  It does not include a
binary for the C++ or Objective C compilers, but there are tar files
containing the objects.  Making cc1plus shouldn't be any harder than
	$ gnutar Zxf cc1plus.tar.Z
	$ gcc -o cc1plus *.o
(Why only .o files?  Because all of gcc 2.1 was cross-compiled on a Sparc
as far as the .o files.  It was easy to copy them to the anonymous ftp
directory.  However, making executables requires linking on a 3b1.  And
I haven't bothered to do it for anything but gcc itself.)

>2) I have installed gcc-gas.tar.Z, it works fine, but is there
>	a compatibility problem with g++?

I used the combination of gcc-gas and g++-bin to make groff 1.04, so it
does work.  It does *NOT*, however, include libg++.  The libg++.a archive
provided has only the necessary stubs to link g++ programs.

Making libg++ from the sources shouldn't be a problem.  I never tried
making it because groff didn't need it.

>3) I have tried using the IN installable versions of g++
>	but no luck getting it to work. (both g++ & g++lib)

The g++lib in the archives may not work with g++ 1.39.1 since it's an older
version (1.37).  Then again, it might.  If it doesn't work, then use the
corresponding g++.

If g++ generates code for the native assembler, and you have a version of
gcc that generates code for the gnu assembler, you're likely to have some
problems.  If you have gas installed as gcc-as, you can get g++ to use
/bin/as instead by adding -B/bin/ to the g++ command.  The -S and -v options
might be helpful here.

Andy Fyfe						andy@cs.caltech.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: forrie@morwyn.uucp (Forrie Aldrich)
Subject: 3b1 fan running high a lot
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:38:45 GMT
Organization: VISION GRAPHICS - Dover, NH - USA
X-Bytes: 648

I've been noticing, recently, that the fan on the 3b1 has been switching
to high speed frequently.  The weather up here in New Hampshire has been
cool... no heat waves (yet), so there's really no reason for this.  Does
this, in my assumption, mean it's time to replace this bugger with the
Radio Shack model?

-- 
           -----------        Forrest Aldrich         -----------
           -------     morwyn!forrie@unhtel.unh.edu       -------
           ----                                              ---- 
           --        VISION GRAPHICS -- Dover, NH - USA        --
           ------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: fargi@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (charles.f.fargis)
Subject: Diagnostic Eproms wanted
Keywords: Eproms,3b1,7300,diagnostic
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: att
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 23:21:00 GMT

Does anyone have a set of diagnostic eproms for the 7300?

RSVP
c_fargis@att.com
or
att!somerset!fargis
or
attmail!fargis
or
908-805-2335

Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: colinm@alfred.carleton.ca (Colin McFadyen)
Subject: VIDPAL again.
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:50:52 GMT

A couple of months ago, several people were supposed to get in
touch with Brian Botton to get the instructions to produce
VIDPAL kits for the unixpc.

Did anyone get these instructions???
Has anyone taken over VIDPAL production???

Thanks for listening.

Colin McFadyen.
From: bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,unix-pc.general
Subject: Re: IN/ix from Chicago
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:11:52 GMT
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario

In article <3258@hico2.UUCP> kak@hico2.UUCP (Kris A. Kugel) writes:
|Sounds like somebody's still aliasing unix-pc groups to
|comp.sys.3B1.  Somebody out there going to try to track
|this down?


	probably no-one else but you gives a damn  8^)


-- 
  ,u,	 Bruce Becker			Toronto, Ontario
a /i/	 Internet: bdb@becker.gts.org	Uucp: ...!lsuc!becker!bdb
 `\o\-e	 "James Brown, Mark Hosler, Al Jourgenson.
 _< /_	 			Coincidence or conspiracy?" - pashdown
From: tjt@cuuxb.ATT.COM (Netnews Administrator)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: 7300 for sale
Date: 13 Apr 92 14:50:11 GMT
Organization: AT&T - Computer Systems Technical Services, Lisle, IL


AT&T 7300 for sale:

	1/2 Meg Motherboard (upgradable to 2M if you're solder jockey)
	2 Meg ram expansion board (socketed and populated)
	Remote battery holder (housed in monitor bucket)
	3.51 core and development set 
	No Doc's

	$300 OBO

Tom Toeller
AT&T/NCR 3B2 Support
Lisle
From: dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com (Don Nichols (DoN.))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: is NIST converted to dst?
Date: 8 Apr 92 02:02:51 GMT
Organization: D and D Data, Vienna Virginia

In article <1992Apr7.164156.19677@colorado.edu> wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Arthur Wouk) writes:
>i am having DST problems with my 3b1. i am running 3.51m.
>
>every night at 4:00 am i call NIST (it is a local call) and set my
>clock to that reading. yesterday i noticed that i had not gone to
>daylight savings time. i reset the clock using the UA. everything was
>fine until this morning. when i first looked at the first line of my
>screen, i was back on standard time.
>
>is this a problem with NIST, or with the program which reads NIST time
>for the 3b1, or with the 3b1 software itself?

	Have you gotten a program from the archives called dstconvert, and
run it on all your date related utilities, and on the shared libs and
/lib/libc.a?  If not, your machine hasn't been told about, and doesn't
understand, the politics which moved the starting date of DST.  Your machine
was told a perfectly straightforward algorithm for determining it, and sees
no reason to change.

	You'll probably have to run dstconvert on the program which sets
your date/time from NIST, as well.  NIST is probably giving the time in GMT,
and your software is converting GMT to what it *knows* is right for the
locale. After you fix the shared libs, you'll probably need to reboot to
have it take effect, since your fix won't change the in-memory copy of the
shared libs.

	There is another problem which may be causing this if you have the
dstconvert already applied.  The program for setting from the NIST time may
not be bothering to set the hardware clock (which requires a special ioctl,
if I remember correctly).  I once fixed a version of a program which calls
the Naval Observatory to set the hardware clock as well, but I've lost the
source in a system crash.  (I know, make backups, like I tell others to do.
:-) I should have shipped the code off to the sources group while I still
had it.

	I would like to give credit for the source of the dstconvert
program, but I'm afraid that I'll remember wrong.  You'll see who wrote it
when you get it from the archives.  It is one of the eternal benefactors of
the group, to whom we all owe thanks (and a better memory for their names :-)

	Good Luck
		DoN.
-- 
Donald Nichols (DoN.)     | Voice (Days): (703) 704-2020 (Eves): (703) 938-4564
D&D Data                  |  Email: <dnichols@ceilidh.beartrack.com>
I said it - no one else   |         <dnichols@ceilidh.aes.com>
	--- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero ---
From: lied@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Bob Lied)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Managing Your Money on DOS-73
Keywords: MYM version 8, DOS-73
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:36:25 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Last week I posted a note saying that "Andrew Tobias'
Managing Your Money" wouldn't work for me on the DOS-73
card.  Over the weekend, MECA software sent me an upgrade
kit to upgrade from version 7 to version 8. I already had
version 8 (and not 7), but ran the upgrade anyway.  The
program now works.  Damn.  There goes my excuse to buy a new
system :-).

On my request for other DOS programs known to work or not
work, I'm still getting a trickle of responses, so I'll post
a summary next week.

	Bob Lied	att!ihlpl!lied

"A house, a wife, two kids ... what else can go wrong?"
From: ostroff@Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: 3b1 fan running high a lot
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:34:24 GMT
Reply-To: ostroff@oswego.Oswego.EDU (Boyd Ostroff)
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY

In article <kubk4bINNfks@skat.usc.edu> jlowrey@skat.usc.edu (John 'Fritz' Lowrey) writes:
>	You could also try opening up the case and clean out all of the dust
>from the ventilation slots.  Giving the fan assemblies a good dusting doesn't
>hurt either.

I used to have this problem every 6 months or so.  I would also open the
machine up and clean it.  Since then, though I think I've found a better
solution.

Once a week I take my household vacuum cleaner and give the 3B1 (and modem
and Mac) a good going-over.  I use the brush attachement to do the case,
screen and keyboard.  Then I put the long "snout" type attachment on the
Hoover and suck the dust out of every vent hole, fan port and floppy slot.

This has really made a world of difference.  In the past two years I can't
ever recall the fan kicking into high speed, and this is in a room which
routinely gets into the 80's during the summer.  It also makes a big
difference with the keyboard.  Before, the accumulation of dust made it really
shabby looking.  Perhaps someone else feels there some kind of hazard here,
but it seems to work great for me (4 year old 3B1 with all original equipment).

.............................................................................
....Boyd Ostroff / Technical Director / SUNY Oswego Department of Theatre....
...............Voice: (315) 341-2987 /  Fax: (315) 341-3394..................
..............ostroff@oswego.oswego.edu / ostroff@cboard.UUCP................
From: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca (Chris Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: Replacement /bin/login?
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:16:42 GMT
Organization: Elegant Communications Inc., Ottawa, Canada

In article <1992Apr3.195321.16952@thoth.rent.com> azog@thoth.rent.com (Billy D'Augustine) writes:
>Has anyone ever done a replacement for /bin/login? I would like to
>have one that disallows root logins over the tty[000-006] lines?
>(using mgr, when I first login to the machine as root, the tty is
>/dev/console, but within mgr the ttys are the pseudo ttys)

You can do this without a new /bin/login.  Try inserting something 
like this into /etc/profile.

Something like:
	id=`id | sed -e 's/^uid=//' -e 's/(.*//'`
	if [ "$id" = 0 ]
	then
	    tty=`tty`
	    case "$tty" in
		tty00[0-6])
		    echo "Sorry, can't root login from $tty"
		    exit
		    ;;
	    esac
	done

>Also a nice option would be to lose carrier after three login 
>attempts, or configurable.

That you need a new login for.
-- 
Chris Lewis; clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca; Phone: Canada 613 832-0541
Psroff 3.0 info: psroff-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
Ferret list: ferret-request@ferret.ocunix.on.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: frank@nwnexus.WA.COM (Frank Higgins (Courtesy Account (1/21/92)))
Subject: Part for 6085 hard drive ckt board needed
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 04:36:38 GMT

I need a peculiar jumper for the circuit board of a Miniscribe 6085 hard
drive.

Last year I bought a new drive from Source Electronics that I didn't test
within the warranty period. By swapping back and forth with a good hard
drive, I've found that the "bug" is simply a missing jumper on the circuit
board. On the opposite end from the card edge connectors, is a connector
with 11 pins. 9 pins are connected to a cable. 2 pins have a peculiar
jumper. Two short wires are soldered into the jumper, bent down at a 90
degree angle and connected to a small (3/16") white block. With the limited
test equipment I have, I can't determine what it is. Not a resistance, no
continuity. Not a transistor or "one way" element (no continuity). Could be
a VERY small capacitor. BUT, whatever it is, does anyone have a "junked"
6085 or circuit board therefor that the jumper could be scrounged from? I
need one. "For the want of a nail, the shoe was lost. ... "

Does anyone know where I can get one of those jumpers?

Thanks, Frank

Frank G. Higgins   frank@nwnexus.wa.com     Voice: 206-774-0956
22508 39th W., Mountlake Terrace, WA 98043
From: kevinc@jomby.cs.wisc.edu (Kevin Chin)
Subject: g++ Installation problems
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 20:27:14 GMT


I have some questions about g++:

1) Which one should I install ?
	(version @osu in directory "csvax" or under "languages"
	or the Installable version)?

2) I have installed gcc-gas.tar.Z, it works fine, but is there
	a compatibility problem with g++?

3) I have tried using the IN installable versions of g++
	but no luck getting it to work. (both g++ & g++lib)

4) I assume I need the shlib fix for things to work right?

5) Is there *any* info on how to install g++ from osu,
	without assuming you have X,Y, and Z installed already?
	ie what else do I need to install g++?
	(I have OS 3.51m, but not much else)

6) Am I the only on with problems installing g++?

any info will be appreciated.
thanks,
Kevin
kevinc@jomby.cs.wisc.edu
From: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Arthur Wouk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: is NIST converted to dst?
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:41:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: colorado.1992Apr7.164156.19677
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

i am having DST problems with my 3b1. i am running 3.51m.

every night at 4:00 am i call NIST (it is a local call) and set my
clock to that reading. yesterday i noticed that i had not gone to
daylight savings time. i reset the clock using the UA. everything was
fine until this morning. when i first looked at the first line of my
screen, i was back on standard time.

is this a problem with NIST, or with the program which reads NIST time
for the 3b1, or with the 3b1 software itself?
-- 
arthur wouk 
internet: wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: ab556@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert Michael Martel)
Subject: monitor cap replacement
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 17:44:45 GMT


	Greetings!
	In the past some wonderful instructions have been posted
on how to repair failed 7300 monitors.  I though I might need that
information one day so I copied it put it someplace where I wouldn't
loose it.  Thus I have lost it.

	So if any kind soul can provide me with the information
I would be ever so grateful (for what ever that is worth :^))

	I know I need a 4.7 uf 50v cap (I think) beyond that
I am not sure.  I remember a point being made about
electrlytic caps but don't recall what the point was.

	Thanks for the help!
	-Bob
-- 
Robert M. Martel                  | He who made kittens
bob2@cua3.csuohio.edu             |   Put snakes in the grass
R1004@vmcms.csuohio.edu           | He is a lover of life
ab556@cwns2.ins.cwru.edu          |   But a player of pawns
From: floyd@hayes.ims.alaska.edu (Floyd Davidson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: sprint screenprint fix.
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:29:54 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska Institute of Marine Science

In article <1008@pb2esac.UUCP> jeapeda@pb2esac.UUCP (J. E. Apedaile) writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.204641.26134@raven.alaska.edu> floyd@hayes.ims.alaska.edu (Floyd Davidson) writes:
>>In article <324@beyonet.UUCP> beyo@beyonet.UUCP (Steve Urich) writes:
>
>stuff deleted
>
>>
>>It looks like pure luck that it works when everything is on one
>>file system.  No such luck if /usr/spool is a mounted file system.
>>Lp sets itself up to run in the background and returns, which then
>>allows sprint to unlink the data file.  If it gets unlinked before
>>lp has accessed it...
>
>This is the normal lp(1) behavior.  lp tries to create a link from the
>file to be printed to its spool directory.  If it fails (can't link
>across partitions) it will use the orignal file name.  In this case you
>must use the lp -c option if the file is to be removed before printing is
>done.  The screen print program works fine in the standard single partition
>filesystem since the link to the spool directory will succeed and the
>unlink of the original name  will leave the file in the spool directory.

Yup.  That is what is happening.  The error message from "cat" is
coming when lpsched runs the interface script for the given printer.

>Your fix to hack the temporary filename into the /usr/spool/lp directory
>is probably the best you can do without the source.

The command line given to the system function call in sprint can be
patched too:  where it now has "-ascreenprint" it can be "-c -ascreen  "
and it will then work.  I kinda like this the best.

The other patch that I was playing with (the sleep function call) will
bomb if there is a print job queued that takes longer than the sleep
lasts.  Not good enough...

Floyd
Xref: sparky comp.sys.3b1:1932 comp.unix.admin:2735
From: tonia@cairo.asd.sgi.com (Tonia Cantrell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1,comp.unix.admin
Subject: help with 3b2 and starlan
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:29:08 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

I am taking care of a 3b2 with recently bit the
dust with some hardware problems.  Since it has
come back the starlan no longer works.  While I
have alot of experience with unix I know nothing
about starlan or much about the strange version
on unix that runs on these beasts.  Can anyone
give me some helpful hints on what to do or
look for?  How do you get manuals or man pages
in general?  

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: staffan@ca.serum.kodak.com (Kenneth Staffan (x37507))
Subject: 3b1 hard disk?? troubleshooting...
Reply-To:  staffan@serum.kodak.com
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:41:08 GMT

Symptoms:

	During system boot-up, the machine hangs at the 

			Version 3.51
			Real memory =
			   .
			   .
			   .

	screen (Passes "searching Floppy Drive" and "searching hard drive"
	screens).  It sounds like the hard drive is just seeking back
	and forth in a cycle (or doing something periodically - it 
	repeats the "brzzz" noise that I would normally hear just once
	during a reboot).  I tried the Floppy diagnostic disk, and it
	complains about the hard drive.  I tried the Floppy boot disk
	and tried to "shift-<delete>" to a # prompt, but that didn't work.

Help!  Suggestions, advice?  Does this sound like a hosed hard drive?
(I'm a software guy, not a hardware guy.) Is there anything that I should
try before ordering a new drive and trying it?  Could it be something
else?  Is my data lost?  (I backed up only about a week ago, but that's
a week's worth of thesis work I'd rather not lose! :-).

Any and all help appreciated!

Thanks,

Ken

---
staffan@serum.kodak.com  -or-  kes7613@cs.rit.edu
From: kak@hico2.UUCP (Kris A. Kugel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: IN/ix from Chicago
Date: 13 Apr 92 03:59:45 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: High Country Software

Sounds like somebody's still aliasing unix-pc groups to
comp.sys.3B1.  Somebody out there going to try to track
this down?
From: dave@das13.snide.com (Dave Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
Subject: Re: is NIST converted to dst?
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:47:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: das13.1645
Organization: Snide Inc. - Folcroft, PA

In article <1992Apr7.164156.19677@colorado.edu>, wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Arthur Wouk) writes:
> i am having DST problems with my 3b1. i am running 3.51m.
> 
> every night at 4:00 am i call NIST (it is a local call) and set my
> clock to that reading. yesterday i noticed that i had not gone to
> daylight savings time. i reset the clock using the UA. everything was
> fine until this morning. when i first looked at the first line of my
> screen, i was back on standard time.
> 
> is this a problem with NIST, or with the program which reads NIST time
> for the 3b1, or with the 3b1 software itself?

This is what was posted to this group 3 years ago... hope it helps.


Here --------- Snip Here --------- Snip Here --------- Snip Here --------- Snip
For those who want to change the day that Daylight Savings time begins
in the UNIX-PC and have the means to do so, the following information
is provided:

1.	Be advised you are on your on!  Any errors in patching object
	code may result in a reload of UNIX from floppy disk.

2.	You must have a way to patch object files, (sdb, adb or other).

3.	Extract ctime.o from /lib/libc.a.

4.	Find the address of this sequence of hex bytes:

	0x76 0x77 0x28 0x3c 0x00 0x00 0x01 0x2f
	 v    w    (    <    .    .    .    /

	0x77 or 119 decimal is the earliest day of the year of the last
	Sunday in April and 0x012f or 303 decimal is the earliest day
	of the last Sunday in October.

5.	Change the 0x77 to 0x60.

	0x60 or 96 decimal is the earliest day of the year of the first
	Sunday in April.

6.	Replace the patched ctime.o in the libc.a archive.

7.	Patch /lib/shlib using steps 4 and 5 above.

8.	After a reboot, all programs that use the shared libraries
	will have the DST fix.

9.	However, there are several program which used libc.a and
	have to be patched using steps 4 and 5.

	    /etc/ph
	    /etc/smgr
	    /lib/shlib-old
	    /lib/libp/libc.a
	    /lib/libp/libc.a-old
	    /usr/bin/layers
	    /usr/bin/mailx
Here --------- Snip Here --------- Snip Here --------- Snip Here --------- Snip

DAS
-- 
David A. Snyder @ Snide Inc. - Folcroft, PA                    Current Release
                                                               is db4glgen-3.4
UUCP:  ..!uunet!das13!dave   INTERNET:  dave.snyder@snide.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1
From: feb@cbnews.cb.att.com (franco.e.barber)
Subject: Big 1/2 height hard drives for 7300
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:47:07 GMT

In article <169@fbits.ttank.com> Mariusz@fbits.ttank.com (Mariusz Stanczak) writes:
>I'm running its "smaller" brother, the CDC 94355-100 (ST1100-100) which
>formats to 75MB (9648 tracks).  It's a great drive.  The only difference
>between it and the -150 is bpi density (14,019 vs. 21,030) hence with
>the controller in the 3b1 it will format to the same capacity as the -100.
>If you can get it cheap (~$300, or the same price as the -100) get it,
>but it's not worth it for you to pay premium for it.
>
>-Mariusz
>-- 
>INET: Mariusz@fbits.ttank.com
>UUCP: ..!uunet!longbow!ttank!fbits!Mariusz


I am looking for a Seagate ST-1100 to put in a 7300.
I need a "half height" drive, and I want as big a drive as I can get.
I was not aware that there were two models of the ST-1100.
If I had to guess, I'd guess that the -150 model is spec'ed for RLL.

The only place I could find in Computer Shopper that listed the
ST-1100 (didn't specify -100 or -150) wanted $580 for it.

Where can I get a better deal?

Franco
--
-- 
Franco Barber
att!cblph!feb
Newsgroups: comp.sys.3b1