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From: dsnhv@dsnsun.ericsson.se (Henk Vriens)
Subject: Avian behavior (was Re: Help needed--crying amazon)
Keywords: behavior
Reply-To: dsnhv@ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:39:55 GMT

jim@coral.aiss.uiuc.edu (jim crouse) writes:

> Read some of the work done on behavior by Christine Davis.
> She has some great techniques in avian behavior modification.

I have a female salmon crested cockatoo who's sometimes plucking
her feathers.  She's in a large cage together with a male salmon
crested and a pair of goffins in the cage next to her.  Although
I'm giving her as much as attention as I can, she keeps plucking.

I would like to read some of the work mentioned above, and try to
correct my bird's behaviour.  Can someone post more information,
like title(s), publisher and/or ISBN numbers so I can (try to)
order them here in the Netherlands.
From: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu (mark r rauschkolb)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Bird Bathing
Date: 13 Sep 92 20:10:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.1992Sep13.201031.14495
Reply-To: mrr1@Ra.MsState.Edu
Organization: Mississippi State University


     I have a Quaker who has decided he (it?) likes to take showers with
me (mainly sits on my head - I like it hotter than he does)   
He gets quite wet sometimes and I was wondering if I had to worry about 
the bird equivalent to "catching a cold".

Do I need to worry about how dry he is before he goes to the rest of the
air conditioned house?

Thanks
Mark
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: roberts@studguppy.lanl.gov (Doug Roberts)
Subject: Re: 'Tiel likes catfood?
Organization: Technology Modeling and Analysis, LANL-A7
	<1992Sep8.181338.57@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:19:36 GMT


In article <1992Sep8.181338.57@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> jlevy@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (janet.s.levy) writes:

> In article <2A9E5DE4.4220@intercon.com> ooblick@intercon.com (Mikki Barry) writes:
> >> Purina nuggets into the cavern ;-}).
> >
> >Ravens and other wild birds that are primarily ground feeders have no problem 
> >processing the types of bacteria inherrent in mammal food.  Psittacines do 
> >not have the same kind of resistance.  
> >
> >You will find that very few opinions are universal among avian vets, but you 
> >will also find that many avian vets are not up on the latest research and 
> >findings.  For example, high level of protein found in cat and dog food are 
> >very bad for most types of psittacines with the exception of possibly African 
> >Greys.  The fat and ash in cat food is also very very bad for them.
> >
> >I don't understand why anyone would want to take those kinds of chances when 
> >the pelleted food on the market is, depending on the brand, far superior for 
> >the digestive and nutritive needs of psittacines.
> >
> >
> I agree with this - several years ago, I started feeding my budgies
> the corn/bean/rice/dogfood diet touted by most of the vets I saw.
> One time I took a sick bird in to be cultured and the vet mentioned
> that dogfood has bacteria that can affect birds.  That was enough for
> me - I switched the fourth ingredient to a good avian pellet and have
> been very satisfied with this diet (I mix with some seed also).  Why
> take the risk?

I also (now) agree with this. About 2 1/2 years ago there weren't as
many good choices for parrot food, and so back then I did occasionally
suppliment my Amazon's food with Purana dog chow. These days, however,
all 7 of my birds get Harrison pellets suplemented with lots of fruit
and veggies (and the occasional slice of Domino's pizza). 

--Doug
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From: chajek@qa1.WichitaKS.NCR.COM (chajek)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: BIRD CLUBS IN WICHITA, KANSAS
Keywords: BIRD CLUBS
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:58:44 GMT
Reply-To: chajek@qa1.WichitaKS.NCR.COM ()
Distribution: usa
Organization: NCR Corporation, Wichita KS

To Wally German who wanted to know of any bird clubs in Wichita, Kansas.

I have seen some advertised in the Wichita newspaper but can't remember
the details.

Call Wall Seed Company (pet shop and bird supplies) at (316) 263-0850
and I'll bet they can refer you to several bird clubs, depending on
what you are looking for - canary club, cockatiel club or large parrot
or hookbill society.

They are at 737 S. Washington and are a very reputable store for good
clean birds and supplies.  Their birds are healthy.
From: sylanov@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Christine V Sylanov)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Columbus, Ohio
Date: 5 Sep 1992 15:12:58 -0400
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: oh
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu



	I'm looking for other bird owners in Columbus.
I have a cockatiel.  Are there any good bird-based pet
stores in town?  Can anyone suggest a vet?  Would anyone
be interested in bird-sitting when I am out of town?
I already know that I'll be away for a few days in October,
and for while in December.

	I'm a grad student in Math, I just moved here from
Santa Barbara, California, a place where birds are _much_
more popular than they are here!

	Hope to hear from someone!

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	Christine Sylanov  sylanov@function.mps.ohio-state.edu
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From: lecampbell@OCTAVO
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: SEXING COCKATIELS
Date: 15 Sep 92 14:50:14 GMT
Reply-To: lecampbell@OCTAVO

I have a number of lutino cockatiels and no females has ever shown any grey on the tail feathers.  They will be barred with yellow, however, while the male's tail will be solid colored.  (Babies are barred too.  The tail feather pulling method works here too.)  The amount of yellow on a lutino can vary greatly, from just a little, to an almost canary-looking color.  I have one male who is not very yellow, EXCEPT where he should have been white had he been a normal grey.

If you are planning to breed lutinos, watch out for bald birds.  Many lutinos, and some pieds have little or no feathering behind their crests.  The bird is worth more without this "fault."  Sorry I have no extra females at this time; maybe come early spring.
Laura
LECAMPBELL@octavo.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: derich@netcom.com (Scott A. Steinbrink)
Subject: My first time -- and last time (Budgies info)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 12:42:07 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

 I have 4 parakeets, carrying budgie membership cards, or at least that's
 what their bands say....

 For the first time last night, I forgot to call all 4 birds back to their
 cage for the night... (They usually fly free all day -- perch on the 
 cage across the room -- great view of outdoors, etc.) I was too tired 
 that time, so this morning after picking up the paper, I was going to
 do my usual habit -- uncovering the cage, and opening the cage top,
 and greet my birds with a good morning -- only to discover the bird cage
 was already open, and I realized I had forgotten to call the birds back..

 I found 1 female -- on top of the birdhouse -- right above the cage.

 1 down, 3 to go.

 Aha, found the male-female couple perched on top of my kitchen blind...
 right above the wastebaskets... What an appropriate location! :) -
 They picked the right spot, too.  There are two spots available --
 1 right above the sink, with pots and pans filled with water --
 and the other right above the stove, burning gas hidden away --
 They were wise enough to pick the third spot. I shooed them back to
 the living room.

 3 down, one to go... now where's that male?

 Aha... he was found sleeping right behind a blind -- opened it, and he     
 gleefully rejoined his group...

 Never again....

- Scotyt

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Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: mstrange@alfred.carleton.ca (N E N Strangelove)
Subject: rabbits and shedding
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:10:43 GMT

Hi folks,

Barley has begun to shed like a mad bunny...I thought that shedding
season was in spring. Are rabbits different from other animals!??

Natalie

PS\ We are looking for a baby brother for Barley [preferably under one
year]. If anyone hears of anything, please let me know. Sorry it has
to be within the Ottawa, Canada area [Michael, I'd email you directly,
but I've lost your id.]. Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: chris@unislc.uucp (Chris DelPrete)
Subject: Re: Mouse eye problem
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:22:10 GMT

PXF3@psuvm.psu.edu wrote:
: My mouse Hickory has a raw sore on her lower eyelid.  Her ears also seem
: like they have a sort of rash, and she itches often.  

Sorry to hear it  :*(

: possibility?  If so, how would one treat the aquarium to get rid of them
: without dosing the mouse with lethal chemicals?

Vets use Nolvasan to disinfect.  I would think that you could fill the aquarium
with a strong solution of Nolvasan and water and that would disinfect it.  You
of course want to rinse it out thoroughly, but the Nolvasan will most likely
not hurt the mice.  When my cockatiels are being dosed with an antibiotic that
could start a yeast infection in their crops, I give them a couple drops of a
weak solution of Nolvasan and water.  The vet recommended it and said it would
not hurt my birds.  I can't imagine that it would hurt mice either.

A long reply to your letter, but .... there it is.

Good luck.


: 
: Pertinent facts: Hickory is a silky mouse and is 1.5 years old.
: 
: If you want to bond with your mouse, try putting ointment in her eye three
: times a day!
: 
: Thanks for any help,
: 
: Paula
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From: jsweet@ics.uci.edu (Jerry N. Sweet)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: pissed-off 'possum in my yard
Date: 8 Sep 92 00:08:21 GMT
Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS


Rec.pets seemed the least inappropriate group I could find for this
query.  Perhaps someone here has some advice about what, if anything,
I should do about a pissed-off opossum in my sub-postage-stamp yard.

I live in Irvine, California, in the middle of an urban sprawl with
scattered patches of semi-wild land.  Over time, I've had a relatively
peaceable non-relationship with the 'possums that venture into my yard
every night to snack on the snails and god knows what else.

Well, that'd be fine, but my glass door sometimes has to be open at
night to let air in.  The 'possums don't seem to care, and the screen
door keeps out snails and possums both.  So I sometimes hear clumsy
footsteps and bizarre crunching noises as the 'possums make their
rounds.  No big deal.

But recently it appears that one decided to take up residence
underneath the wooden deck right outside my bedroom's sliding glass
door.  This 'possum appears to be pissed off about something, because
it growls---sort of asthmatically, from the sound of it---and snarls,
at what I don't know.  This wakes up me and my next-door neighbors at
all hours of the night.  It sounds vaguely like a one-sided cat fight,
except it goes on and on.  It's too obnoxious.

I don't know a whole lot about 'possums, except that (a) they're
nocturnal marsupials, (b) they're thought to be carriers of a nasty
rickettsial disease called murine typhus, and (c) they've got lots of
pointy teeth and bad dispositions.

Here are the options I've considered:
	- Squirt some ammonia at it to see if it goes away.
	- Capture it (somehow) and release it far away.
	- Call the local animal control office to get other suggestions.

Anyone here have some ideas?
From: nathan@charles.ucdavis.edu (Nathan Rollins)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Snake Shedding
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:34:49 GMT
Organization: Bohemian Inebriation Association


 Phil, there's a great newsgroup devoted entirely to reptiles and
other herps... rec.pets.herp ... I reccomend it heartily.
 
as for the snake, how long has it been since its eyes turned blue?
Mine goes blue, stays that way for about 3 days, is clear for about 2-3 days,
then sheds. Too moist can be bad, but so can too dry: Pythons should
have a container of water big enough to soak in... this seems to
help Lorelei, at any rate.

If it's been 2 weeks, you might want to consider a vet... that seems
like a long time to me.

-otter
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: jensen@rtsg.mot.com (James D. Jensen)
Subject: Chinchilla Breeding
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:08:01 GMT

Is anyone out there into Chinchilla Breeding.  I currently have 7 chins
of a variety of colors that I breed as pets for a hobby.  I am always 
interested in hearing from other breeders about there experiences, especially
dealing with color mutations.  I also occasionally have questions of my own.

I would also be interested in knowing if there are any newsletters that
deal with chinchillas as pets, and not for pelts.  I have read several
books on chinchillas, but never feel I know enough.  I have also found out 
that most pet stores know very little about these animals.  Unfortunately, 
some of them carry the chins just to have an 'exotic' animal, and don't take 
very good care of them.


From: ruska@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Dave Ruska)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:30:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Ball Pythons (Python Regius)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.pets

In rec.pets, philipm@papillon.ucsd.edu (The Philster) writes:

> ....
>
> First, the lighting...Right now I am using a heating pad under my 10-gallon
> glass (versus acrylic) vivarium. During the day I use a 50 watt "grow" bulb
> suspended from the top of the vivarium cover. This is located on the right
> side of the vivarium, so the light and heat is focused in one main area.  
> I do have a problem, however, because the temperature can climb up to 95 
> degrees. Yet the heating pad, alone, cannot provide the desired 80-85
> temperature. What should I do?
> I tried using a regular 40 watt bulb, but this is a little bigger
> (and hence, my snake can injure himself) and still reaches temperatures of
>  around 90-95. Plus, it is too bright.  I read somewhere about using red
>  bulbs? What would be the best system?

"40" or "50" watts in a ten gallon tank is a *LOT* of heat. Having acquired
a pair of snakes with heat burns from a 40 watt bulb I certainly don't
recommend light bulbs inside the tank.  I'd put the light source outside
the tank to start with. On my 10 gallon tanks I use a 4 watt mini
florescent light above the tank which seems to give plenty of *day* light
for a snake.

If your problem is getting your tank warm enough and you are already
providing under tank heat then consider insulating the back and one or
two of the sides of the tank. If the top is screened you can cover up
a good portion to reduce the heat loss out the top (leave two openings
to provide for air flow). Make sure you still have a tempurature differential
in the tank. I'd really suggest building a *bigger* vivarium. A ten gallon tank
is a bit small to accomodate a hot spot, a hide box, a water dish, AND a
snake. Build an enclosure out of wood and you'll have much better luck
controlling the tempurature.

> 
> Thanks (Monty will thank you too),

Gee, My daugther named our Ball "Monty" too. Then we had it sexed
and found out it's a female. So now it's "Monty Ann Python". Then my wife
named our baby Columbian Boa "Columbo". Then we had it sexed and found out
it also is a female. So now it's "Miss Columbo." 

> Philip Misiowiec
> UCSD student
> La Jolla, CA

Regards,
Dave      (daver@hpgrrd.gr.hp.com)

Newsgroups: rec.pets
From:  sandy@firsof.ice.msk.su (Alexander V. Komarov)
Subject: Potential sponsors and experts: at the first time in Russia a show-exhibition of dogs breed Mastino - "MASTINO-92"
Keywords: dog
Reply-To: sandy@firsof.ice.msk.su
Organization: Brokerage Firm 261 Firsoff
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 14:52:42 +0400 

                         Dear Sir and Madam:
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

     A firm "Mastino Ltd., Inc." together with companies "UNAS" and "Krona",
organizes 3-4 october 1992, at the first time in Russia, a show-exhibition
of dogs breed Mastino - "Mastino-92". We invite to the cooperation all
people concirned.

     Potential sponsors and experts are kindly wellcome to contact as.

     An expert will be provided with a two-ways air-tickets, lodging at one
of the best Moscow hotels, meals and social program.

     Please, send your proposals to the organizing Committee of the
Exhibition.

         All The Best.

         Irina M. Malashenko
         General director of firm "Mastino"
         Tel: (095) 436-58-28; fax: (095) 436-58-29
___________________________________________

Address: Irina M. Malashenko
         Akademia Narodnogo Hozjaystva Rossii,
         Prospekt Vernadskogo 82, Moscow,
         Russia.
___________________________________________
From: bdm@druwa.ATT.COM (Brian Millham)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Ferrets and Wind
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:36:54 GMT
Distribution: usa

in article <1992Sep3.173220.4231@pixel.kodak.com>, rhuls@liebnitz.ssd.kodak.com (Robbin Huls) says:

> attack it.  She grabbed the end of the hose and her face got sucked into
> it.  I was afraid that it would suck her eyes out of her head!  It never
> did, even thought she kept doing it whenever she got the chance; she
> really seemed to enjoy it.  Weird indeed!

All 3 of my ferrets attack the vacuum cleaner.  Ferrah has also had her
head sucked up, and didn't seem to mind either.  What do you expect from
a creature that likes being thrown across the room onto the couch?
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AT&T Bell Labs    |Ferrah     |Buddy  |Space Ace     |Sinistar |High Speed
Denver, Co.       |Dr. Pepper |       |              |         |
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From: rdmiller@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Ruth D Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: ALERT - Rabies in NC (Durham County)
Date: 9 Sep 1992 15:34:13 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

In article <1992Sep9.042133.11434@serval.net.wsu.edu> jeffp@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (Jeff Parke;S10000) writes:
>In article <1992Sep5.021927.17555@wolves.uucp> wolfe@wolves.uucp (G. Wolfe Woodbury) writes:
>>According to reports in the Raleigh NC "News and Observer", a rabid fox
>>was found in northern Durham County on Thursday of this week.
>>
>>This is the first case of quadruped rabies in central NC since 1945!
>>
>
>This sent me to my maps of indigenous rabies because I found it so surprising.
>Lo and behold, raccoon rabies is rampant in S. Carolina and southwards, as
>well as Virginia and northwards.  Skunk rabies has been reported in
>Tennessee up to the Smokies, and in Virginia and S. Carolina.   Rabid
>dogs and cats have been reported in the three surrounding states.
>
>How has N. Carolina been so lucky in avoiding terrestrial animal rabies
>this long?
>
This doesn't quite answer your question, but it is well-known that the
rabies epidemic in raccoons in Virginia and Penna. is due to a few animals
being brought north from Georgia or SC and released, whether intentionally
or not I've no idea.  I'm also unsure of how long ago this occurred, but
my guess is it's only a matter of time before rabies is epidemic in NC
raccoons too.

For those interested, there's work being done now on oral rabies vaccines
to be administered to wild animals thru bait.  A successful program in
Europe has nearly eradicted rabies from the fox population.  Unfortunately
an effective bait for raccoons and skunks hasn't been developed yet. (Data
from article in last American Scientist.)

Ruth

Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: megm@sco.COM (Meg McRoberts)
Subject: Re: Dog Food
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:48:08 GMT
Keywords: comparison


In article <1992Sep6.153325.14259@polari> wolflovr@polari.online.com writes:
==> .I am looking for a comparison of the different dog foods.  Every
==> time I find one it is printed by the company.  Any ideas...
==> Consumer Reports does not seem to have done one or I missed it.
==> The brands I would like compared are IAMS, Purina, Sci Diet.
==> BTW I have a Rottweiler.
==> 
Dog Fancy is running a series on dog foods.  i haven't read it
yet, but it might be a place to start.  not quite Consumer Reports,
but a start.  of course, each of the brands you mention have several
formulas available, and choosing the proper formula is probably
more important than the brand.  you might want to ask your vet for
some general guidelines about what your dog needs.  for example,
i have a small housedog, and keeping the protein content of the
diet low is advised.  a large working dog would need much more
protein.
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: v923106@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
Subject: Hermit Crabs
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:15:40 GMT

Are there any people out there that own hermit crabs for pets? If so, please
give me a holler.
From: pruett@CS.ColoState.EDU (J. L. Pruett)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Moose goes to old house
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:57:34 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

Regarding Moose and his new house, thanks to whoever told me it could take 
a month for him to understand where 'home' is.  Anyone else with
helpful info on how to acclimate him, I'd be glad to hear it (so would my
friends).

For those who wish to quote me the law, which I am familiar with, and
principles of humane treatment, which I know quite well and practice
vehemently,  keep your lecture to yourself. (You should have seen the
scathing retort I had prepared for you yesterday, but which, in all manners
and good taste, I decided not to post.) 

Jenny
Newsgroups: rec.pets
From: Herman Hillebrand <hermanh@bio.vu.nl>
Subject: walking sticks (Phasmidae)
Organization: Fac. Biology Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b2
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:03:45 GMT

I am looking for information (books etc.) on walking sticks
and leaves (Phasmidae), especially on tropical species.
How can I identify species, which are extensely cultivated,
suggestions on breeding and feeding.
hermanh@bio.vu.nl
From: fap@crosfield.co.uk (felix power)
Newsgroups: rec.pets
Subject: Re: Boy does this mouse stink!
Date: 8 Sep 92 12:54:37 GMT
Organization: Crosfield Electronics, Hemel Hempstead, United Kingdom.

In article <distef.715896209@milton> distef@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Distefano) writes:
>jbyrd@chpc.utexas.edu (Jan Byrd) writes:
>
>>    - is it commonly known that mice smell so much worse than all these 
>>      other little critters (if so, the pet department of WalMart cer-
>>      tainly didn't impart that to us)?  

I never had a mouse that smelt that bad in an hour!

Male mice tend to mark their territory with smells unpleasant to
the human nose so if you were buying a new mouse a female one would
be a good idea on the smell front.

It's possible that when he's settled down a bit he may feel less of
a need to mark his territory.

Good luck!

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