HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: c31002wb@jezebel.wustl.edu (William Burris)
Subject: University of North Carolina at Greensboro?
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:38:12 GMT


Hi all,

	I have a friend that attends the University of North Carolin at
Greensboro and I would like to be able to talk with him via e-mail.
He's not aware of any internet access at the University so I was wondering
if anyone else knew if there is access at UNCG.  If so, does anyone know
where the labs are (perhaps someone from UNCG)?

thanks,
-william

                           ||   Every four seconds a woman has a baby.       || William E. Burris          ||   Our problem is to find this woman and        || c31002wb@jezebel.wustl.edu ||   stop her.                                    || 
                           ||                                                ||  		      	   ||   Drawing on my fine command of the language,  ||                            ||         I said nothing.                        ||  
Washington University - St. Louis, Missouri (USA)
Department of Life
From: burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Charles Andrew Burchill)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: New version of Hytelnet for the Mac now avialable.
Summary: New version of Hytelnet for the Mac now available (v6.2)
Keywords: hytelnet telnet internet access
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:50:47 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


Notice of Upgrade to Hytelnet for the Macintosh.  version 6.2.0
 
This version will (should) work over a network, and will be able to use
the IBM PC data files.  The numbering system and directory structure are the
same as the PC version.
 
If you want a copy of this version of Hytelnet please send a note to
Charles Burchill <burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca>.
 
The complete set comes as a 560K binhex file so make sure that your
mail package will support mail of this size. It may be available from
access.usask.ca in the near future.
 
Hytelnet comes as a binhex'd self extracting archive: Hytelnet for the
Mac.  You will need about 1.2Mb free hard disk space, HyperCard 2.x.
The archive contains Hytelnet, a hypercard stack that reads the raw
data files from Peter Scotts Hytelnet.  It also contains a 'Hytelnet
data' folder containing many folders with the Hytelnet data files (700+).
 
Binhex'd files may be unarchived using binhex 4.0, Stuffit, Compactor Pro,
Tickler and many other common archiving programs.
 
version 6.2.0 - Many new and updated files, numbering scheme is now the same
as Peter Scott's.  Third digit will be used to represent minor updates
in the Macintosh version.
 
                   HYTELNET...... Program Description
 
HYTELNET is a utility that is designed to assist you in reaching all of the
INTERNET-accessible libraries, Freenets, CWISs,Library BBSs, & other
information sites by Telnet.  It is available for IBM PC, Unix, VMS and 
Macintosh computers.
-- 
Charles A. Burchill <burchil@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
    ,__o
  _-\_<,   Cyclist
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: technews@iitmax.iit.edu (Kevin Kadow)
Subject: Simple BBS type program wanted
Organization: Technology News, IIT, Chicago, IL
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 20:13:55 GMT

I run a couple information services here at IIT, (weather, text files, news
on campus) and would like to release them to the world, via a simple BBS thatg
can run under MACH (NeXT).

Any suggestions for a simple solution would be welcome, I don't need user
logs, access codes, or other extras, just a menu system, file display, and
connections via telnet to a pre-definied port.

-- 
  The only thing worse than dying young is dying young with money in the bank.

technews@iitmax.iit.edu                           kadokev@harpo.iit.edu
                         My Employer Disagrees.
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From: lfa1@cec1.wustl.edu (Lorrie Faith Ackerman)
Subject: Re: Whois servers
Keywords: Whois
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:56:15 GMT

As I've said before (and probably will say again)...there are a variety
of services on wugate.wustl.edu including directions for accessing
netfind.  Telnet to wugate and login as services.

Lorrie
From: tsf@CS.CMU.EDU (Timothy Freeman)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Funding archie (was Re: Paying for the net)
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:32:13 GMT
	<1992Jul22.231727.21546@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca>
Distribution: na
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: tsf@U.ERGO.CS.CMU.EDU

In article <1992Jul22.231727.21546@sifon.cc.mcgill.ca> peterd@bunyip.com (Peter Deutsch) writes:

   In article <BrGvxz.Iw0@acsu.buffalo.edu> xnswfft@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu  
   (WFFT Radio, Buffalo's Modern Rock Radio) writes:
   Actually, I have looked into the possibility of grants to keep
   archie alive, and it is not as easy as it sounds. 

Have you considered selling it as a database on CompuServe or some
analogous for-profit data provider?  If you could provide both the
database and an anonymous-ftp server, lots of people who are limited
to CompuServe would be very interested in it.

You'd probably have to make a split in the Archie software: one version
for profit, and one version used for free.  If improvements to the
for-profit side found their way into the free version, you'd be
destroying your own market.
--
Tim Freeman <tsf@cs.cmu.edu>
When they took the fourth amendment, I was silent because I don't deal drugs.
When they took the sixth amendment, I kept quiet because I know I'm innocent.
When they took the second amendment, I said nothing because I don't own a gun.
Now they've come for the first amendment, and I can't say anything at all.
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From: njoddson@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Nick Oddson)
Subject: How do I go about making....
Keywords: SIG
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:05:29 GMT

How do I go about creating a .sig for news, etc...  It just doesn't seem to
work for me...  (probably a real stupid question)

Thanks - Nick
--
"This sentence no verb" -- Jargon File 2.90, July/92

(Oh yeah, that was a macro :)
From: bpwing@phoenix.princeton.edu (Ben Wing)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:06:37 GMT
Subject: Re: Mail to non-internet domain ?
Organization: Princeton University
X-Subliminal-Message: You can quit reading news anytime you want.

In article <BrtDpu.6Et@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> skfhung@napier.uwaterloo.ca () writes:
|
|
|Does anyone know that SEARS.com is a valid domain ?
|I tried netfind on the bruno.cs.colorado.edu 
|and they said that this domain is not directly connected to internet.
|Is there anyway that I can send mail to people in this company ?
|
|Any solutions ?
|
|

Well, I did "whois sears.com" and got:

Sears Technology Services, Inc. (SEARS-DOM)
   231 North Martingale Road
         Schaumburg, IL 60173-2254

   Domain Name: SEARS.COM

   Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Zone Contact:
      Burton, Robert  (RB16)  [No mailbox]
      (708) 240-3013

   Record last updated on 19-Feb-92.

   Domain servers in listed order:

   NIS.ANS.NET                  147.225.1.2
   MERIT.EDU                    35.1.1.42


Then I did "host -l sears.com" and got:


sears.com NS nis.ans.net
nis.ans.net has address 147.225.1.2
sears.com NS merit.edu
merit.edu has address 35.1.1.42
r090.sears.com has address 192.148.105.2
loopback.sears.com has address 127.0.0.1


"r090" looks to be some sort of router.


Doesn't look like what you're looking for ...



ben
--

Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty.
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Webster Servers
From: chbaumga@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Chris Baumgartner)
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:16:03 EST

Does anyone know if there are any webster servers around? I found info
listing two of them but am unable to connect to them. Thanks.


 Chris Baumgartner                | Why I'm in Computer Science & Engineering,  
 chbaumga@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu | Reason #5: I thought C.S.E. stood for 
 cse0135@uoft02.utoledo.edu       | "College of Sex Education".             
 **************  MEMBER: League For Programming Freedom  *********************
From: csc@coast.ucsd.edu (Charles Coughran)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: grateful med/medline
Date: 24 Jul 1992 18:34:23 GMT
Organization: U.C. San Diego - SIO
Reply-To: csc@coast.UCSD.EDU (Charles Coughran)
NNTP-Posting-Host: coast.ucsd.edu


In article <1992Jul24.175246.2508@cs.tulane.edu> Jeff E Mandel <mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu> writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.152525.18182@julian.uwo.ca> zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance
>R. Bailey) writes:
>>
>>i have some pc users here who use the grateful med package to dial
>>out and use medline. is this service possible via the Internet?
>>
>
>I've enquired about this in the past, and been told it was a low priority. Of
>course, if more people started asking, who knows.
>

Medline is available thru several of the library systems connected to
the internet including library.ucsd.edu (login name library).


-- 
         Practice Random Kindness And Senseless Acts of Beauty.
ccoughran@ucsd.edu (Internet) ...!ucsd!ccoughran (UUCP) CCOUGHRA@UCSD (BITNET)
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From: c31002wb@jezebel.wustl.edu (William Burris)
Subject: Forcast script
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 15:42:41 GMT


someone posted a script for getting state and city forcasts recently.
I saved it to 'forcast' as the poster suggested and then typed 'forcast'
from the same directory and got the message 'Permission Denied.'

Did I do something wrong?

-william

                           ||   Every four seconds a woman has a baby.       || William E. Burris          ||   Our problem is to find this woman and        || c31002wb@jezebel.wustl.edu ||   stop her.                                    || 
                           ||                                                ||  		      	   ||   Drawing on my fine command of the language,  ||                            ||         I said nothing.                        ||  
Washington University - St. Louis, Missouri (USA)
Department of Life
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: larsoe@rs6216.ecs.rpi.edu (Eric Dennis Larson)
Subject: Maps (Atlas?)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:46:08 GMT

This "discussion" about weather maps got me wondering if there are any other
types of maps available. I'd like maps (gifs or any other format) of countries,
kind of like an atlas of some sort. Does anyone know of anything like this?
Somthing like the atlas programs that are on the PC's would be really cool.
                                                                 ______
      ___                                                (__)   /      \
     (__   _   ` _        Eric Larson                    (oo)  (  Moo?  )
     (____/ )_/ (__       (518)273-6431	          /-------\/ --'\______/
     ______________       larsoe@rpi.edu         / |     ||
    (______________)    			*  ||----||
                                                   ^^    ^^
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Gak! too much at once!
From: tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:03:57 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

Ok, here goes nothing. These are all problably on a faq somewhere, and if so
just sending it to me is fine. My story:
For two or three days now, I have been absorbing knowledge on ftp, and
downloading. I have even tried to get stuff, and in some cases, I have. But,
what I downloaded (binhex4 and dehqx) through kermit arent working quite right.
I get the BinHex icon (yeah, this is a mac, adn using WK), and I got dehqx as a
document. When I tried to open/convert dehqx with binhex, I get a document
taht is larger then the 1st dehqx, and still will not run as a program.
What am I doing wrong?
2) Off NCSAtelnet for the mac, I have not been able to get a file from my unix
acct to my hd. How is this done???
3) When I get a text file, how do I look at it on my mac?
4) Why is this all so confusing? A very helpful net person has suggested I grab
a local expert to teach me all this stuff. The problem? I don't know any! Is
there *ANY* kind of help file or book or anything? I need to learn how to do
this efficiently for my job, and am feeling very cornered.

Thanks to all who have helped in the past or will help in the future...
the frightened wide-eyed netkid,
tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu
From: joe@decoy.uoregon.edu (Joe St Sauver)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: Webster Servers
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:01:44 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services

In article <1992Jul30.082029.41998@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>  
cromwell@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
> In article <1992Jul29.141604.9034@uoft02.utoledo.edu>,  
chbaumga@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (Chris Baumgartner) writes:
> > Does anyone know if there are any webster servers around? I found info
> > listing two of them but am unable to connect to them. Thanks.
> 
> 
> telnet decoy.cc.uoregon.edu  login:help

Wrongo. There is NO general public access to the websterd on my machine
anymore, and telneting to my machine and trying to logon will get you 
nowhere. I do offer some locally written TeX and VMS documentation via 
anonymous FTP, but that's about the extent of it.

More importantly....

You really shouldn't post something like this less you take the time
to make SURE your information is correct -- and this sure isn't. 
Trying to be of help is nice, but not when it results in a lot of 
people wasting their time and not when it generates a lot of confusion.

A comparable thing to do would be to say, "Hey, if you want to send
FREE FAXES from within electronic mail, send a PostScript copy of the
document you need sent via e-mail to cromwell@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu"

Now, the only question is whether or not Rick's FREE FAX service joins
Craig Shergold in net imortality.

Joe St Sauver
Assistant Director, Academic User Services
University of Oregon Computing Center

P.S. For those of you who haven't had your coffee yet, Rick's free e-mail
fax service mentioned above does NOT exist. Really.
From: fzjaffe@othello.ucdavis.edu (Rory Jaffe)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Re: grateful med/medline
Date: 25 Jul 92 04:33:51 GMT
Organization: University of California, Davis

The new version supports internet access. You must have a compatible
version of TCP/IP on your machine.  The package has the details.  It's
cheap, so it's worth buying just to check if you're set up
appropriately.
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: how to find out the machine name?
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:48:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.003422.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>Hey, does anyone know the internet format for Bryn Mawr or however it is
>spelled, I want to find out if I can get to the directory for my sister who
>goes there, like I am eagle.wesleyan.edu what is their machine name?
>thanks,
>tvanes@eagle.wesleyan.edu

You can get this kind of information (usually) by using Netfind.
Telnet to bruno.cs.colorado.edu and type "netfind" when it asks for
login.  What this service allows you to do is to look up someone by
their last name and keywords from the actual name of their
institution.

From the Netfind seed database:

%H cc.brynmawr.edu
%O bryn mawr college, bryn mawr, pa

%H brynmawr.edu
%O bryn mawr college, bryn mawr, pa

So I suggest you try brynmawr.edu, or perhaps cc.brynmawr.edu.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
From: v053qpcj@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (MARK T. ZABALDO)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Weather Radar
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:59:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Does anyone know if it is possible to call up the National Weather Service
radar?
If so, what are the codes for Buffalo, NY and Erie, Pa?

Please post the response here.
MTZ
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: jsc@athena.mit.edu (Jin S. Choi)
Subject: Books In Print, anyone?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 11:00:36 GMT


Would there be an online version of Books In Print anywhere?
--
Jin Choi
jsc@athena.mit.edu

Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: Jeff E Mandel <mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: grateful med/medline
Organization: Tulane University School of Medicine
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:52:46 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-1346]: mandel.anes.tulane.edu

In article <1992Jul24.152525.18182@julian.uwo.ca> zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance
R. Bailey) writes:
>
>i have some pc users here who use the grateful med package to dial
>out and use medline. is this service possible via the Internet?
>

I've enquired about this in the past, and been told it was a low priority. Of
course, if more people started asking, who knows.

Jeff E Mandel MD MS
Associate Professor of Anesthesiology
Tulane University School of Medicine
New Orleans, LA

mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu
From: fetzer@sdphu1.ucsd.edu (Michael E Fetzer)
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
Subject: Interpreting those map gifs?
Date: 27 Jul 92 03:00:28 GMT
Organization: /u2/grads/fetzer/.organization
NNTP-Posting-Host: sdphu1.ucsd.edu

hardly the appropriate group for this, but then, here's where I got
the scripts. The GIFs are amazing! But... could someone explain the symbols?

  90
    o----
  60  250 \\

something like that... the t.l. is dayly high, b.l. is low.

Is bottom right rainfall? If so, units? 

I assume the straight lighes from the circle are wind direction?
The number of ticks inthe tail velocity?

How about the shading of the circle? Anywhere from solid black to sild white?

Mike
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: decemj@sage4b.its.rpi.edu (John Arthur December)
Subject: Internet Resources Classification Idea <- request for comments
Summary:  Please comment on a classification scheme I'm thinking about.
Keywords: internet, resources, communication, information, services, classification
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:24:26 GMT

CLASSIFICATION OF INTERNET RESOURCES -- DRAFT
------------------------------------

This is a rough draft of a classification of Internet Resources that 
I'm putting together for a paper I'm writing.  Let me know what you think.
(I'm not even sure it is possible (or desirable) to make such a 
classification, but I'll give it a try!)

I'm particularly interested in listing some more instances of the 
general classes (instances preceded by a "-"; Classes by a roman 
numeral, subclasses by a "o").

------------------------------------------------------------------------
INTERNET RESOURCES 
========================================================================
(DEFINITION: Internet Resources:   The collective wealth of the network 
of networks known as the Internet, including its means of communication,
stock of information, and services.)

Abbreviations used are defined at the bottom of the chart.

I.  COMMUNICATION 
    (DEFINITION:  resources to achieve discourse among humans)
    o EM
       - UCB mail (or variants) (1 person <-> 1 person) 
       - mailing lists (1 person <-> many persons)
           - LISTSERV
           - Comserve 
    o BBS
       - Usenet
       - Cleveland Freenet
    o CC
       - UNIX talk (1 person <-> 1 person)
       - IRC (group comm.)

II. INFORMATION 
    (DEFINITION:  stock of knowledge, data, facts, intelligence, or 
      messages; ACCESS: ftp, telnet, mail; TYPE: Text, Graphics, Sound)
    o FTP sites/archives
    o Telnet services information
      - weather, library catalogs, etc.
    o Discussions 
      - LISTSERV 
      - Usenet
    o Databases

III.  SERVICE
    (DEFINITION:  applications which supply, gather, search, or transform 
     INFORMATION)
    o Searchers
    - Archie
    - Gopher
    - Wais
    o Computing
      - Supercomputer access

IV.  NETWORK
    (DEFINITION:  resources to achieve communication among computers)
    o TCP/IP protocol suite

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Abbreviations 
------------------------------------------------------------------------
EM = Electronic Mail (or Electronic Messaging)
LISTSERV = List Server (Mailing Lists)
CC = Computer Conferencing 
BBS = Bulletin Board System
IRC = Internet Relay Chat

Copyright (c) 1992 by John December (decemj@rpi.edu).
You can use this (cite me!), but don't steal it.
-- 
John December/decemj@rpi.edu/Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute/Troy, New York
PhD Student/Department of Language, Literature, and Communication 
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: bobf@verdix.com (Bob Foery)
Subject: Re: Weather Maps--help
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:00:59 GMT

>I'm sure there are more elegant ways to do this, but this script works for me!

After thinking about this, one can eliminate the first ftp by using the Unix
date command.  I'd hate to waste network bandwidth!!

============================================================================
#! /bin/csh -f
#
set my_pass  = "bobf@verdix.com"
set work_dir = "/ac/bobf/weather"
set gif_cmd  = "/ac/bobf/X11/bin/xv -display sequoia:0.0 -root -maxpect -quit "
#set ftp_cmd  = "ftp -n 128.174.5.98"
#
# use for debugging...
#set ftp_cmd = "ftp -n -v -d 128.174.5.98" 
#
pushd $work_dir > /dev/null
#
# get most recent filename from Unix date command
#
set weather_file = `date -u +SA%m%d%H.GIF`
#
# retrieve this GIF file
#
echo "user anonymous " $my_pass  > ftp.get
echo "cd wx"                    >> ftp.get
echo "bin"                      >> ftp.get
echo "get " $weather_file       >> ftp.get
echo "bye"                      >> ftp.get
#
$ftp_cmd < ftp.get
#
# check to see if GIF was retrieved...
set log_date = `date`
#
if (-e $weather_file) then
  $gif_cmd $weather_file
  echo $log_date "==> GIF:" $weather_file >> GIF.log
else
  echo $log_date "==> GIF:" $weather_file " ERROR" >> GIF.log
endif
#
# cleanup
#
rm -f ftp.get
rm -f SA*
popd > /dev/null
============================================================================

-- 
Bob Foery                               | "We draw our own designs but
Verdix Corporation, Herndon, Virginia   |  fortune has to make that frame."
bobf@verdix.com                         |       - Peart
Newsgroups: alt.internet.services
From: hread@miata.ece.cmu.edu (Howard C Read)
Subject: Re: from COMPUSERVE to Australia ?
Originator: hread@miata.ece.cmu.edu
Reply-To: hread@miata.ece.cmu.edu (Howard C Read)
Organization: Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:48:31 GMT



Just to clear things up a bit, the syntax of a normal internet 
address is NOT the issue here - my friend sends me mail
from CompuServe to MY internet address all the time. 
It is the ACTUAL address which causes the problems - specifically
it's in Australia and I don't think the site is directly
connected to the Internet.

My thanks go to everyone pointing out MY  error (not hers)
in the formatting of a normal CompuServe address for
the internet.  Obviously, it should be:

>Internet:<address>@site.etc.etc.

I don't know EXACT error she's getting, but
the CompuServe support crew guru's are working
on it as we speak, so I'll post when
I do find out the answer.

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ECE Department    THEORY:  All electronic devices run on smoke.        
Carnegie Mellon	  PROOF:   If you let the smoke out, they stop working.
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