HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Gun Shot
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:18:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.193111.1@wharton.upenn.edu> zhang48@wharton.upenn.edu writes:
>In article <92351.175731U21885@uicvm.uic.edu>, U21885@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
>> 
>> According to The World Journal (Chinese Newspaper) , Wednesday , Dec.16,
>> 
>> 1992 :
>>    On Dec 15,1992 at the state of Massachusetts,
>>    A hornor student from China shot two to dead and the other four
>> wounded , by using his semi-auto rifle which was just bought at the
>> same day. After the incident , he called the police department to
>> declare the incident.
>
>Can anyone please confirm this?

Yes! his name is Chinese name(in pingying). Psychitrist say his "failure"
causeed his rampage. He wore a T-shirst with: sick of it all, inprints.
It is not known what really behind the show.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.korean
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Re: questions of the Korean War
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:05:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.065537.4997@news.acns.nwu.edu> andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim) writes:
>I missed few days of posting due to newserver problem...
>Hope that I will not say something redundant.
>
>In article <Bz2u9I.3L6@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec10.175454.18371@husc3.harvard.edu> mkim@husc3.harvard.edu writes:
>>>In article <1992Dec9.162155.5449@cs.ucf.edu>, jinxiong@cs.ucf.edu (Chen Jinxiong) writes:
>>>> Andrew: [....]
>>
......
>>>
>>What I heard is that Stalin didn't give the ok to Kim. (Guess that
>>Stalin would rather have divided countries around) But Kim still started
>>the invasion. He might be encouraged by the success of Mao in China.
>>>Michael Kim
>>Tingli Pan  
>
>I tried to stay out of this subject, but I will try one more time
>to shed some light into this matter...  :)  
>
>Most of evidences support Stalin's prior knowledge of the invasion.
>I could site sources if you wish. Can you tell me your source which 
>supports your contention? No flames intended.
>
Yes, I didn't say that Stalin didn't know the intension of Kim to invade
South. But my guesing is that he just gave Kim an answer that you can
get any conclusion you want.  You know the politicians.   

>Andrew Sung Hyun Kim  (708) 491-5294(o) 570-0584(h) andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

Tingli Pan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: weimin@rice.edu (Weimin Yu)
Subject: Re: Is Chairman Mao God?
Originator: weimin@helma.cs.rice.edu
Reply-To: weimin@rice.edu (Weimin Yu)
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:45:52 GMT


In article <313.9212151719@subnode.bradford.ac.uk>, 90908648@bradford.ac.uk writes:
|> 
|> This is a serious qeustion, not a joke. Just imagine,
|> Chairman Mao was born on 26 December! One day after
|> Jesus was born! Was it merely coincidence? Doubtful.
|> Although both of them are dead, they always live in 
|> people's hearts! Everywhere we see their pictures! Read their
|> instructions! Lots of songs and peoms are devoted to them!
|> Both of them are revered! When a SCC get exited, s/he would say:
|> "I can swear before Chairman Mao!" Cab drivers in Beijing
|> hang a mini-portrait of Mao in front of them to deter evils.
|> I am seriously considering hanging one in my room.
|>  
Remember the time zones. It might well be Dec. 26 in China
at the time when Jesus was born. :-) 

Weimin
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: dwong@chopsuey.pico ( paganini's admirer )
Subject: Re: Is Chairman Mao God?
Reply-To: dwong@chopsuey.pico
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:31:17 GMT

In article 9212151719@subnode.bradford.ac.uk, 90908648@bradford.ac.uk () writes:
>
>This is a serious qeustion, not a joke. Just imagine,
>Chairman Mao was born on 26 December! One day after
>Jesus was born! Was it merely coincidence? Doubtful.

It can't be that serious considering plenty of Mao like dictators around the world!
Whether they were born closed to Dec. 25 or not.  

>Although both of them are dead, they always live in 
>people's hearts! Everywhere we see their pictures! Read their
>instructions!

Did Mao resurrect somewhere since 1976?  Have you heard anyone said
Long Live to Jesus?  

>Lots of songs and peoms are devoted to them!

For Mao, it was a by products from his Hitler like government.

>Both of them are revered! When a SCC get exited, s/he would say:
>"I can swear before Chairman Mao!" Cab drivers in Beijing
>hang a mini-portrait of Mao in front of them to deter evils.

Have you seen any evil more deadly than Mao's government?

>I am seriously considering hanging one in my room.
> 

Need to get more tips on interior design...Long Live Chairman Mao! :-)



David W.







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From: achen@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (positron)
Subject: Re: Question about being adopted by an American Family
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:39:27 GMT

In article <1gng22INNddh@apache.dtcc.edu> wang@apache.dtcc.edu (Wang Gang) writes:
>My friend wants to know what benefit he will have after being adopted by
>an American family.
>
>He is now a poor F-1 student fighting for survival.
>
>--wang


He has to be careful.  The way I see it, the only reason
that the American family wants to adopt him is so that
they can brainwash him into becoming a Christian.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiaohan@euler.Berkeley.EDU (Xiaohan Yun)
Subject: Re: puzzle?
Organization: University of California at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:20:05 GMT

In article <BzBro1.C6o@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>In article <BzBqxs.BqF@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>In article <9212152200.AA16705@euler.Berkeley.EDU> xiaohan@euler.Berkeley.EDU (Xiaohan Yun) writes:
>>>
>>> i heard this long time ago, after talked this puzzle to my
>>>officemates during coffe break, their comment was ' uhmmm...
>>>stooooooopid'; but we got a good laugh at it, so here we gooooo....
>>>
>>>let's say, there is an intellegent cow who is facing west,
>                                                ^^^^^^
>>>and here is an boring fellow counting number from 1 to 100;
>>>when the cow hears a number it'll turn accordingly:
>>>if the number is a multiple of 2 then the cow turns 90 degree clockwise;
>>>if the number is a multiple of 3 then the cow turns 90 dreee counter-
>>>clockwise;
>>>if the number is a muliple of both 2 and 3, then the cow turns 180 degree;
>>>all other numbers, the cow stands still.
>>>
>>>the question is: after the fellow finishes counting from 1 to 100,
>>>which direction is the cow's tail points at?
>                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>>>
>>>Xiaohan
>>>
>>
>>6s: 16 ---> no net change
>>other 2s: 50-16=34, is equivalent to 2 ---> a 180 degree turn
>>other 3s: 33-16=17, is equilavent to 1 ---> a 90 degree CCW turn 
>>
>>=====>a 90 degree CW turn ===>
>>
>>It is hitting the NORTH wall!
>
>Oh, godness, I almost get trapped.
>
>It is hitting the SOUTH wall!
>
>:-0

 hee, hee, hee, ...... i am still smiling, 
if i am annoying you, then let me know, i'll 
give you the answer. 

hern, hern, hern.......

Xiaohan
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: fun problem No.2
Date: 18 Dec 92 01:03:55 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Dec17.224946.5442@ee.rochester.edu> yao@ee.rochester.edu (Meng Yao) writes:
>You lost some information, so you get a smaller chance. My conditional
>probability goes like this:
>
>P(A2 | open 3 between 2 and 3)=P(A2, open 3 between 2 and 3)/P(open 3 between 2 and 3);

I hope I have read scc before reply your mail. Anyway, you are right
here, but let me state the problem more clearly.  I think the problem is
different.  I could miss have miss read ;-)

The customer choose door 1. Now he ask the host to identify one of the
remainning door which has goat.  (Host can only open a door with goat,
not clear before).  He can just choose the other one now.

Or in this case, the customer only need to identify one of the door
which has goat (the host will help to identify the other), so the
probability of identify one of the door which is goat is 2/3.

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Riddles, any takes?  Was: Puzzles & picutures
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 18:44:15 GMT

In article <PWU.92Dec20023621@portofino.ai.mit.edu> pwu@ai.mit.edu (Peng Wu) writes:
>    From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
>    
>    In article <PWU.92Dec18172621@vernazza.ai.mit.edu> pwu@ai.mit.edu (Peng Wu) writes:
>    ...
>    >What can run but can't walk?
>    
>    Time.
>    
>    >Why does a pencil seem heavy when you write with it for a long time?
>    
>    It becomes reluctant.
>    
>    >What time is the same when you spelled backwards?
>    
>    noon.
>    
>Hurrah!  You got this one right.
>
>    >Who was the first to have a mobile home?
>    
>    Her grandchild.
>    
>    >What helps keep your teeth together?
>    
>    A coffin.  :=(
>    
>    If this question had been "what can help ...", then the 
>    answer could have been: A gold box.
>    
>    >Why should you never tell secrets in a garden?
>    
>    Will anybody listen to me? (Who wants to follow Adam and Eve's 
>    step after they knew only one secret?)
>    
>    >    -- A childish poster
>    
>    PS: there are tons of answers for each, I guess.
>
>There are good answers and bad answers.  For instance, it would be awkward to
>say "time is running" (it would be fine to say "time is running out/short" but

Time RUNS fast!

>this expression does not connect with the question), and "reluctant" does not
>have an apparent connection with "heavy."  So, you are on the right track by
>need to try harder.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,talk.politics.china
From: y70q@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (LAM)
Subject: Re: Respose to Jian Chen's 8th article
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:52:11 GMT

In article <BzE4rz.15w@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.050909.21965@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> y70q@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (LAM) writes:
>>2. Who is the poorest people in China? The governers or the working class?
>     < 10% of China's population are catogorized as "poor" according to UN
>     standard(have problem with food). How much percentage of U.S. population
>     have problem with food? Africa 50%, india 30%.... 

You are comparing China with Africa and India. How about HK and USA? Can
you give me the figure also?
Note: I feel not too bad hearing that less than 10% people are poor.
      But there are always hopes for China to improve in economy, right?r

>>3. Whoever invent capitalistic blah blah blah, western people are using
>>   it. China is not using it. This is the fact.
>    China is using Market and free enterprises quite effectively!
>    Only 20% of goods's prices are "controled or guided" by states.
>    Central govenment's annual budget was less that 20% of total GNP, wich is 
>    smaller than that of U.S.(25%). 
>
But China also announced most of the contracts in HK would be voided
after 1997.
China is promoting a greater degree of free economy, but China can
also control the economy, eg. There are stock exchange is China 
(near Shum Chun?), but once the stock market is too good, China
suppressed it. Can you think of a reason why (beside China is
conservative)?


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wja@math.psu.edu (Jianan Wu)
Subject: Re: The best solution to end this line. :-)Re: math problem
Organization: Chinese Basketball Club, The Pennsylvania State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:07:16 GMT

In article <Bz9GLM.1v3@cs.psu.edu> echeng@phys.psu.edu (Eddie Cheng) writes:
>In article <Bz9F9F.KJq@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>
>|An guy at PSU(NOT me) had already given the best solution:
>|a=1/y**(n-1)+1/y**(n-2)+1/y**(n-3)+...+1/y
>|which decreases from +1/0 all the way down to +0/1, if y
>|increases from +0/1 to +1/0. Surely we have one and only
>|one root for this equation.
>|
>|This is the simplest solution, so is the best.
>
>	Certainly!  And that guy (Dr. Jinyuan Wu) is a physicist!
>
>	All you mathematicians (professional or amateur ones) take note.
>
>:-)  :-)
>
>
>	 Eddie

I am glad that my solution was honored as the best of the math problem. This
guy is Jianan Wu ( not Dr. Jinyuan Wu ).
By the way, I am not a  physicist either.
Have a noce day!

--Jianan
From: mth015@marshall.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Hotel room at AMS San Antonia,TX meetings
Date: 11 Dec 92 10:51:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: marshall.1992Dec11.155158.119640
Organization: Marshall University

Hi, fellows. I am going to join American Mathematical Society annual
meeting at San Antonia,TX.and reserved a very big room in hotel.
If any one like to share hotel room with me, please send me a e-mail
as soon as possible.
From: stlin@stevelin.Eng.Sun.COM (Steven Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: DATA: largest world economies
Date: 17 Dec 1992 23:28:07 GMT
Organization: Sun
NNTP-Posting-Host: stevelin
Summary: What TIers think

In article <105168@bu.edu> yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.000827.14982@cbnews.cb.att.com> (Heng-Hsin Liao) writes:
>>
>>First, I am going to tell you I hold Taiwan's passport.
>>Heng-Hsin
>
It looks to me this guy "was" fighting for history. All of the TI accusations
are no longer existed. If it is, that is the TIers wishing to build a new
kingdom menality is not died off.

>I've read most of your posters. I buy some of your points but I don't
>buy the above one. One important fact is that KMT government is
>elected government, namely, represent the majority of the Taiwan people.
>Look at what happens in US. Although a large propotion of American 
>don't like Clinton, he still will be their president. What they can do
>is do it better next time. This is real DEMOCRACY! People should
>respect each other political view. Whether Taiwan should be a
>independent country or not can only be decided by the whole Taiwan
>people. You can't impose your political view on Taiwanese just like I
>can't impose mine on you. So, my suggestion is: DO IT BETTER NEXT
>TIME.
>       -Guo-Xiang
>
> 
The TIers and pro-CCP people have the same mentality, they don't expect
their favor people to do job well. But, they make big deal on a small
issue as that a small fire has to be put off.

The current sistuation in Taiwan, TIers just want every single official
who performs well and stands strong of KMT member has to go. Second, the
TIers want every offcial of mainland origin step out of government office.
The last step for TIers will be easy, since the strong people are driven
out of government office, they can make a claim that KMT does not do well
so TIers have to take over. Isn't this a crazy idea, a mental illness?

Where ROC stand as hard as a rock, the TIer can only throwing eggs to 
mesh up streets, eggs against rock? Come on!
From: zzhang@soliton.rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: fun problem No.2
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:49:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

yao@ee.rochester.edu (Meng Yao) writes:

>This problem I saw in Reader's Digest of China.
>This happened in a show. There are three doors, behind two of them are two
>goats, and behind the remaining door is a car. Of course you want to land
>on the car. Now the host asks you which door you want to have open, let's
>say you choose door No.1. At this time, the host opens one of the other
>two doors, say door No.3 and shows you that it is a goat behind it.
>Question: To enhance your chances of winning the car, should you stick
>to door No.1 or switch to door No.2 or there is no diffrence between
>the two choices? 

>This is not as easy as some people think. Thousands of Ph.D's gave the 
>wrong answer.

>Have fun!

>Meng

Well, unless the original problem is DIFFERENT from what you have stated, 
it seems easy to me. In fact, it is so easy so that I suspect you
mis-stated the problem. 
If the problem is as you stated, then I would say it makes no difference
if you switch to door #2 or not. The situation is like this. Since we
know door 3 has a goat behind it, and the contestant will not choose door3,
door3 is out of the game, right? Now we have two doors, door1 and door2. 
Behind these two doors are a car and a goat. The probabilities of the car 
being behind door1 and door2 are the same, 0.5! Therefore it makes no 
difference to swithch to door2 from door1. 
Well, as I said, my answer applies only to YOUR stated problem.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: s9874203@titan.ucc.umass.edu (s9874203)
Subject: Re: A situation puzzle
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:24:50 GMT

In article <102781@netnews.upenn.edu> hxie@dps91a.cis.upenn.edu writes:
>A situation puzzle:
>
>A man lives on the twelfth floor of an apartment building.  Every morning 
>he takes the elevator down to the lobby and leaves the building.  In the 
>evening, he gets into the elevator, and, if there is someone else in the 
>elevator -- or if it was raining that day -- he goes back to his floor 
>directly.  However, if there is nobody else in the elevator and it hasn't 
>rained, he goes to the 10th floor and walks up two flights of stairs to 
>his room.  Explain why.
>

He is too short to reach the button.

BTW, you can find many interesting riddles in Martin Gardner's 'Aha,
Insight!', where the above one is from, I think. 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: An Old Arithmatic Problem
Reply-To: xi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:08:42 GMT

In article <15DEC199202400198@utkvx2.utk.edu>, xic@utkvx2.utk.edu (Chen, Xi) writes:
>Well, the following is an old arithmatic problem, not mathematic problem.
>
>Do you know a poker game called 24 points?  If you know it, you know the 
>rule.  There are four cards, 5, 5, 5 and 1.  Find an arithmatic expression
>using all the number once and only once to get 24.
>
>Rule:  for the people who do not know the game, the following is the rule:
>The arithmatic operations are limited to add, substract, multiplication 
>and division in decimal system.  There is no binary operations, no power,
>no abstract algebra.  I do not have a big math vocabulary, but the criterion
>for the correct answer is that your answer should be able to convince others
>that the student in the third grade of elementary school should know how
>to calculate it.
>
>I hope to see some correct answer.  If there is no correct answer posted,
>I will post the answer to the net tomorrow.
>
>Have fun.  
 I am sorry for the previous posting which gives 25, ok here it goes:

    5 * ( 5 - 1/5) = 5*4.8 = 24
From: This reminds me of my childhood
Subject: Re: a fun problem
Organization: School of Physics, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:05:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.235211.7349@ee.rochester.edu> yao@ee.rochester.edu (Meng Yao) writes:
>Now let's have something more advanced. Given 13 balls that look exactly the
>same but one of the 13 balls differs in weight from the others, can you 
>find out this ball by using a balance(tian1 ping2) only three times?
>Meng

			         13
                             /    |   \
                            /     |    \
                           /      |     \
                          4---|---4      5
                       /  |  \         /  |  \
                      /   |   \       /   |   \
                     /    |    \      1   |    \
                   2--|---2     0        2---|---2
                        / | \
                      /   |   \
                    /     |     \
                  1 --|-- 1      0
                 		|
				|
				|
				|
		_________________________________

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From: yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Is Taiwanese CHinese?
Date: 21 Dec 92 01:37:04 GMT
Reply-To: yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Heng Hsin Liao argued:
||>   	Taiwanese is NOT Chinese.

Guo-Xiang replied:
	......
|>	From the GNP data, Taiwanese made big fortune in the 80's. 
|>	Now Science and technology is so developed that doctor can 
|>	change a male into a female as long as you have money to pay 
|>	the bill. If somebody don't think himself to be Chinese while 
|>	he has nothing to distinguish himself from a typical Chinese, 
|>	why don't he spend a bit of his fortune to change something in 
|>	his body so that tomorrow morning when people see him on the 
|>	street, everybody think that, oh this is a Taiwanese, not Chinese.

Chien-Chung Chen wrote:
>
> 	I don't think Mr. Liao denies himself the Chinese descent. 
>	He just doesn't want to be a citizen of China. 

I am not sure about that. Ask himself.

>	Please argue with him in a logical way. Bringing up a 
>	surgeon doesn't make sense in the argument.
>

Just a sense of humor. Nobody will think it in logical way. The point
is you can't deny your Chinese blood whether you admit it or not. If 
you don't like it, I'll use direct argument later. 

>If you still have doubt, let me give you an example: Ask George Bush
>if he is a Britain. Of course he would say he is not. He'd say he is
>an American. Now would you tell him to change something in his body
>so that tomorrow morning when he shows up in White House, everybody 
>will be happy to know the President is American, not Britain?
>
>-- Chien-Chung Chen
>
 
Wrong comparison! 
USA and Canada are no doubt independent countries. But Taiwan is 
still called Republic of China, please pay attention to word "China". 
Then why you are not Chinese? The key point Heng-Hsin made is that 
ROC is already dead. He don't acknowledge ROC. 

As I already said in the previous posters, ROC government is an 
elected government. This is the choice made by the majority of 
Taiwan people. They still want the word "China" to be in their 
country name. It is not the right way to deny a  government when 
you lost an election. I understand that Taiwan authority  was not 
democratic several year ago. There may be some reason to deny it 
then, but there is no reason to deny an elected government no matter 
how you don't like it. The only way to succeed your course is win 
election in a democratic society.

Guo-Xiang



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