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From: jblackwo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J P Blackwood)
Subject: Re: Why discard contact lens solution after 90 days?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:22:30 GMT

In article <markmc.712024893@sierra.com> markmc@sierra.com (Mark McWiggins) wri
tes:
>I wear gas permeable contact lenses and use Boston lens solution.
>I'd like to keep a bottle of solution at work for now-and-then use,
>but I wonder about the "discard after 90 days" warning.  Do I really
>have to trash a $6 bottle from which I've only used 3 drops?
>
There's a common eye infection that is spread through contact lens solution. 
Evidently, the saline is a real nice environment for its growth. The longer you
keep your saline, the more chances of contamination and the longer it has to 
multiply

-jp
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From: K.M.Mill@psychiatry.utas.edu.au (Kathryn Mill)
Subject: Turner's syndrome
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 05:25:22 GMT

I have recently commenced a PhD at the University of Tasmania, Hobart,
Australia, on the psycho-social aspects of Turner's syndrome.  I would be
interested to hear from anybody who also has an interest in Turner's syndrome, or 
or who knows anything about it.  Thanks.  

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From: green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein)
Subject: Re: FDA still at large
Organization: Strawman Incorporated
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:41:21 GMT

In article <15854@pitt.UUCP> geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
>In article <1992Jul27.150817.15333@fylz.wa.com> fyl@fylz.wa.com (Phil Hughes) writes:
>>
>>Note that I am not saying that you should use conventional methods if
>>you see fit for dealing with your particular physical problem.  It's
>>your choice.  But having a heart bypass operation every 5 years
>>doesn't, to me, seem like as good a method of dealing with my body as
>>eating a low-fat diet. 
>
>I suppose it was homeopaths and chiropractors that discovered the
>benefits of a low fat diet in heart disease?  But what do you do
>with people who have clogged arteries already and are about to
>die from them?  Too late for them to try the low fat diet.
>Just let them croak?

No it wasn't the homeopaths or the chiropractor's but the Chinese have
known about these benefits for centuries. The amount of nutritional
knowledge that the American medical establishment has could be written
on the head of a pin - in large type.
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From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Weight/appearance of professional models; Re: Obesity...
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:19:32 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Jul19.163655.2700@cs.tulane.edu> fs@cs.tulane.edu (Frank Silbermann) writes:

>
>To be fair, some men also make this mistake.
>Knowing that most women prefer a man who looks
>somewhat more muscular than the average man,
>some guys poison themselves with steroids
>pumping up their muscles to cartoonish proportions.
>

I agree.  Many teenagers start with the weights to get more
girlfriends, but then they get obsessed with size and
bodybuilding for its own sake, just like the very thin
model look is more attractive to women than men.
Bodybuilding has decidedly taken a pathological turn
in the past 10 years, I think.  If you look at the movie
"Pumping Iron" you don't see the males (and even females!)
who have eliminated the last ounce of body fat.  On ESPN I
saw a competition where the contestants had elimated so much
fat that every vein in their backs was visible as well as
unsightly subcutaneous nodules that are not usually visible
in people.  When people go to these extremes, the facial
fat is also lost and the faces on these guys (and girls) look
skeletal.  They look like someone who has AIDS.  How this 
has happened to people who started out wanting to be fit and
healthy is a mystery to me, but it is a type of pathologic
obsession, as far as I can tell.  I'm sure steroids is a
part of the pathology in most of them as well.

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From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: virus/retrovirus
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:14:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Jul26.191435.20550
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <14ukroINNd3f@cs.utexas.edu> turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes:
>
>A single strand of RNA would be pretty helpless in the cellular
>environment, which is designed to preserve and replicate from DNA,
>and in which RNA is a mediator, any one piece of which is not
>real important.  My understanding is that the RNA of a retrovirus
>
>Russell


I guess you never heard of picornaviruses, you know, the family that
contains the poliovirus, hepatitis A virus, and a slew of rhinoviruses
that cause the "common cold."  Yeah, can't say that the polioviral
RNA
is "real important," can you?

Ed
From: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: mail
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:57:05 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Pittsburgh

If you sent me mail expecting a response the last two weeks,
don't get ticked off. I am way behind in looking at mail,
but will respond.

 -km
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Coping with Episiotomy complications: Advice
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:06:45 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

My wife had a fourth-degree episiotomy for our first
baby. Was advised rest and prescribed antibiotics and
stool softener, with the advice to stop either on
adverse reactions from the baby (breast-fed.) Over-reacting
to the baby's bowel movements in the first 3 days, she
stopped both, resulting in a sequence of events leading
to breakdown of the entire region (vagina/rectum).

A second OB-GYN (we belong to an HMO) after claiming
that a 6-8 week wait would be needed before repair,
decided to go ahead and attempt to repair anyway.
This was on the 8th day after delivery. Halfway thro'
the procedure, she found that the (first layer?) of
stitches were not holding. She went ahead anf finished
anyway.

Now, after another 3 days, there are signs of breakdown
again - stool coming thro' the vagina.

Questions:

1. How common is this occurrence? My wife talked
to a friend who went thro' an identical sequence
of events (except that she had no repair after 8 days-
but some infra-red procedure? not clear? was attempted.)
My wife is quite upset with herself and everything else
at the way the events have turned out. Any advice?

2. We have an appointment with the second OB-GYN 
tomorrow. I don't know what she is going to say,
but would like some feedback from any net experience.

3. About the antibiotics: the dosage was reduced
from 500 mg (4/day) to 250 mg after the first week
and she is getting chills from time to time.
Any comments? (The advice nurse asked us to wait till
tomorrow: it may be a viral infection.)

4. How will antibiotics for an extended period of
time affect breast-feeding prospects? Of course,
we will be asking these questions of the Pediatrician
and the OB as well.

5. Lastly, how do I help her cope with this?

Thanks very much for reading this far.

Sthan.

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From: caf@omen.UUCP (Chuck Forsberg WA7KGX)
Subject: Re: Fenfluramine and Fluoxetine
Organization: Omen Technology INC, Portland Rain Forest
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 10:29:25 GMT
Keywords: Fenfluramine and Fluoxetine

In article <1992Jul21.030425.23431@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.202750.25448@doug.cae.wisc.edu> kolstad@cae.wisc.edu (Joel Kolstad) writes:
>>Everywthing besides the first and last sentences seem reasonable.  But come on!
>>How in the world do they purpose weight gain occurs if not by eating more 
>>calories than one expends!?  Are there fat cells in the air that come whizzing 
>>through the universe, hit my gut, and stick to me when I'm taking a shower?  
>
>Listen, even *I* am prepared to accept that conjecture. :-)
>
>>I have to believe the doctors when they say that obesity is caused when energy
>>in is greater than energy out. [...]
>>But I firmly believe that if I ate considerably less than I currently do, I'd
>>weigh less.  Period.  End of story.
>
>Well, my weight is no mystery to me either.  I've never seen my appetite
>as gluttonous, but I tend to have very bad eating habits, PLUS I have a "fat
>tooth".  On the other hand, I think this kind of research is referring
>to defects in dietary-induced thermogenesis and tendencies to "lay on"
>fat more quickly than a person of normal weight.  And it's undoubtedly
>the case that all this feeds back into the control of appetite as well.
>So, when people make such conjectures, they're not really talking about
>denying the law of thermodynamics. :-)

Obesity researchers more and more are talking about a defect in
the partitioning of nutrients between lean tissue, fat tissue,
and energy.  Meier's paper on bromocriptine in the Mar 15 1992
Experentia has perhaps the most elegant description of the
model, but I'm afraid by the time the reader had the background
to appreciate it one wouldn't have to ask.
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From: bx574@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Betty J. Page)
Subject: tennis elbow
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 13:03:21 GMT


What exactly is tennis elbow?  What are the symptoms and what
are some treatments?
Perhaps someone can relate their experience with tennis elbow?
Thanks.

Betty
From: km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Questions for MDs
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:07:51 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Pittsburgh

In article <55178@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
>In article <15823@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
>
>>Hmm. Are you going to hire two doctors to do the above workload and
>>pay them each half what I was paid? The above was a typical Saturday
>>day tour for me, in 1985, at $32 per hour. And that included 
>>*NO* benefits of any kind. Today the same hospital pays about $45
>>an hour.
>
>If we did not have the current restrictions on the production of
>physicians, we could increase the supply without reducing quality.
>ER medicine is not the bulk of the medical cost.  And I see absolutely
>no reason to use the present torture systems in the training of interns
>and residents, which I believe cannot but be a part of the unwillingness
>of physicians to discuss, communicate, and think.  
>

Training is a side issue. I have no objection to cutting down on
intern and resident hours, if the number of years of training is
increased to make up for it. You can't learn the same amount
working 40 hour weeks as working 80 hour weeks.

The above ER work was not part of training, but was moonlighting,
done to make money. You missed my point: I was willing to work
12 hour shifts with the abovework load for $32 an hour, taking
up every Saturday daylight for three years. I would NOT have been
willing to work the same hours with half the workload for $16
an hour, which is what would have happened if they hired two
physicians per shift.

>There are quite a few competent foreign physicians who would like to
>immigrate.  If we cannot produce enough in this country, by all means
>let them come in!  And raise our standards, NOT courses, attendance,
>and time spent, in the process.

There are already thousands of foreign physicians who do immigrate
here, never to return to the countries which paid for their
medical training in the first place. I know you will not believe it,
but there is NO physician shortage in this country, although there
are some regional shortages in coverage. Believe me, I am in the
process of trying to change jobs myself. I will very likely have
to move to the boonies to set up a practice.

But to get back to the original point, NO, I don't like being
compared to a shoe salesman.

 -km
From: mchadwick@galaxy.gov.bc.ca
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: re : Haloperidol and Valproic acid
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:19:39 -0700
Organization: BC Systems Corporation



In article <1992Jul27.232221.15799@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, al037@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dave Polewka) writes:
> 
> In a previous article, esr@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) says:
> 
>>Ah.  In that case, it is both correct and predictive to observe that statists
>>are addicted to government.  Political-force junkies, unable to imagine any
>>solution beyond the next fix.  Poor bastards.
> 
> Yeah, but we ALL suffer, because, like the other addictions,
> it's a family disease.  And there's a hell of a lot of 
> codependency, too.  Just like the alcoholic and his family, few
> can see the connection between the use and the troubling consequences.
> The typical behavior is to play the blame game.  But when
> everyone is pointing the finger at everyone else, the end
> result is NO CHANGE.  Of course, the REAL solution is less
> government.  When you can't do activity X without getting into
> trouble, then the common sense answer is to cut down on 
> activity X.  Playing the blame game is NEVER a solution.
> -- 
> =======================
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> =======================
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Withholding information; was: Re: Questions for MDs
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:03:26 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.


I don't know any doctors, except on TV, that tell patients how
long they have to live.  Doing so is incredibly stupid.
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From: nadel@attatash.aero.org (Miriam Nadel)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Red Hot Chili Peppers...(was: Colonic irrigations)
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:24:49 GMT
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization

In article <1690011@hpmwga7.sr.hp.com> markg@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Mark Goldsworthy) writes:
>
>I heard that the reason why equatorial cultures have hot spicy food is too
>cover up the taste of rancid meat and vegetables. Vegetables, and especially
>meat, turn rancid quite quickly in tropical climates without refrigeration.
>Only by highly spicing the food was it palatable to eat two or three day old
>meat. Northern cultures tended to have blander food because the meat was not
>spoiled as quickly in the cooler weather.

This theory, which was widely propagated by the British in the age of
colonialism, is generally disbelieved among food anthropologists these days.
The reason it doesn't make any sense is that rotted foods are widely prized
in many cultures, including many of those which make widespread use of
spices.  It seems unreasonable to believe that people would be covering
up the taste of aged beef (considered a delicacy in some parts - the classic
"hung" beef of England) and then go ahead and gobble down quarts of fish
sauce.

The more popular current theories about the use of hot foods in hot climates
is:
1) The spices grow there to begin with.  People tend to use the ingredients
at hand.
2) Appetite tends to be diminished in extreme heat and spiciness is needed to
stimulate the appetite.
3) Eating hot foods directs the blood flow in such a way that skin cooling is
more efficient.  (I have to admit to not knowing if this makes any sense.  Do
people flush when they eat chilis?)

Miriam Nadel
From: John.Willis@p123.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (John Willis)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Colonic irrigations
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 09:23:00 -0500

In response to
 > article <Brp1A5.DEy@hpbs654.boi.hp.com>
 > kmarko@hpbs654.boi.hp.com (Kurt Marko) writes:
 >>It comes as no surprise that `conventional' medicine considers this
 >>quackery,

Someone stated:

 > Of course it does.  It's a therapy which preys on the
 > gullibility of
 > naive individuals who are ignorant of the biology of
 > digestion, and
 > takes advantage of the almost-univeral taboo around
 > the topic of
 > excretion.  It's tailor-made for a crackpot and his
 > followers.  That
 > is, it's a quack therapy designed by individuals with
 > shit-for-brains
   ^^^^

Inflammatory language and mindset of those with chronic rectal encephalitis.

 > for individuals with shit-on-the-brain.
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Subject: Vicodin, over the counter substitutes
From: Robin.Salmansohn@f20.n273.z1.fidonet.org (Robin Salmansohn)
Date: 10 Jul 92 14:04:24 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:273/20 - Metro Hub One, Hatboro PA


 RS> Has anyone ever used botulismotoxin for pain relief in RSD? 
 RS> How about tetanus toxin? (Injecting small 
 RS> doses into affected centers)
 RS> (Don't laugh. It has been used or suggested to treat dystonia).

 WH> Botulinum toxin injection _is painful_.
 WH> Have you tried capsaicin (zostrix)?  Some people say it helps in RSD.
 WH> It is an over-the-counter herbal remedy (from jalepeno peppers).
 
I can't say that I have tried capsaicin (Zostrix) for anything. I do not
have RSD or Dystonia, but thank you anyway. I am a medical researcher.
About the closest that to capsaicin (which inhibits substance p) is when
I eat Mexican or Chinese foods (or Put hot peppers on my cheese steak).
I am working with an intervention that might help people with various problems 
with pain (it is in clinical trials).
I can't be specific about it right now, but I can say that I am working with 
an intervention that another Doctor is testing for use in pain
control.


 
 

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From: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Feedback about norplant needed
Date: 30 Jul 92 17:00:52 GMT
Reply-To: collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <r3nm7_c.damon@netcom.com> damon@netcom.com (Damon Skaggs) writes:
>
>I would appreciate anyone with firsthand experience with Norplant
>giving some feedback about it.  I am interested in how they like it,
>....
>pills have a large effect on drive in some women.  I would appreciate
>any information anyone can give me.
>
>Damon Scaggs

I tried to "reply"  a response to you, but it bounced.  Seems host
mork isn't recognized by netcomsv.

If you will send your email address(send to cs.utexas.edu!unisql!collene)
I will send you the response.

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From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: HAND NUMBNESS AFTER EXTEN
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:27:14 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Jul28.175154.5785@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> jschwarz@lonestar.utsa.edu (Jan A. Schwarz) writes:
>
>   My Mother (age 73) has just recently been experiencing numbness and
>   pain in her thumb and first two fingers.  The pain extends up along
>   her arm.  I work with a person that has carpel tunnel syndrome and
>   my Mother's symptoms are somewhat the same but not really.  She says
>   that the skin actually hurts.  In fact, it is more of a surface thing
>   than inside.  The doctor has put her in a brace, but the brace hurts
>   her skin so much that she can hardly wear it.  My Mother is not a
>   complainer either, so I know it is really hurting her.  I told her
>   that she needs to go to a hand specialist.
>
She'd be better off with a neurologist first.  This could be lots
of things, from carpal tunnel, reflex sympathetic distrophy, 
post-herpetic neuralgia, cervical root impingement, to thalamic stroke.  
The neurologist can usually
localize the problem and if it turns out to look like she has
an orthopedic problem with her hand, she can then be referred to
a hand surgeon (which are the only hand specialists I know of).


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From: km@speedy.cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Reasons not to disclose fully
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:49:30 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., University of Pittsburgh

In article <16829DCB7.M20614@mwvm.mitre.org> M20614@mwvm.mitre.org (Hugh Pritchard) writes:
> 
>So, what I don't appreciate in physicians and nurses is refusing to tell me
>exactly what they're giving me if I ask.
> 

The content of this thread has changed considerably since the first
postings. Your posting documents some very rude, demeaning behavior
on the part of some very paternalistic physicians which should be
condemend. This is very different from what I was originally talking
about, namely withholding of information which I felt would be
damaging to the patient's condition or not in his/her best interests.
This difference appears clear to me - however, I must admit that
the situation must appear different to others, as I have had several
responses which indicate that the responder believes I said it was
okay to lie to patients.

 -km



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