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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Road Warrior - undubbed original language
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:49:59 GMT
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jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:

> The $10 question is: Will there ever be an undubbed, letterboxed release
> of Mad Max?  

Like the guy you responded to said -- it's out undubbed & letterboxed in the
UK.  No sign of an official US release, though I'm sure that the usual "rare
video" (read: bootleg) houses have dubs of the UK version as we speak.

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From: scottg@amiganet.chi.il.us (Scott Gittlitz)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: THE ABYSS collector's set
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:28:05 GMT
Organization: Amiga Network Information Systems

In article <Bw13tp.77H@foobar.dab.ge.com>, vita@gloucester.dab.ge.com (Mark
Vita) writes:
>I called Sight & Sound the other day to inquire about some upcoming
>releases, and discussion soon turned to the upcoming CAV collector's set of
>THE ABYSS.  The person on the phone stated the opinion that the "extra
>footage" being added for this edition is footage that Cameron had
>originally cut because he felt it "didn't work".  I was surprised to hear
>this, since I had naturally assumed that, like ALIENS, one of the primary
>motivations for doing the collector's set was to restore footage that
>Cameron felt *artistically* should have been included in the film, but had
>to leave out due to time constraints.  I asked, does this mean that this
>release is a "collector's set" but not a "director's cut", and the S&S
>person responded affirmatively.
>
>Can anyone confirm or deny this?  (Jim Millick, perhaps?)
>

  The person who told you that was wrong, the movie was cut to please the
studio.  The original version was 3 hrs long and studio heads wanted to fit in
an additional show (I worked at a movie theater at the time).  I remember when
the film came out Cameron was upset because the footage that was delete
clearified the entire story, actually it would have been a different story than
the one that made it to the theaters - the "Underwater Aliens" = Storm(s) above
and why they rescued Bud(Ed Harris).

  I just placed an order for it the other day, and I can't wait to see it.  I
was happy to hear from the person at Sight & Sound that the disc has been moved
up from its Dec. 14? date to I believe late November.
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From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Subject: Re: New Star Wars transfer?
Organization: NASA GSFC
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 14:09:42 GMT

In article <BvpL20.DJB@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
> 
> 
> In article <BvGAny.Drq@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com> bengt@fires1.uucp (Bengt A. Palsson) writes:
> >
> >users" or something along those lines. Also while watching [Star Wars] there
> >seemed to be additional scenes in there that I don't remeber seeing in the
> >movie before.
> 
> What happened in these scenes?
> 
> 

Oh man, I hope there are the scenes I remember seeing (yet that many hardcore
SW fans insist never existed.)  One with Luke looking through binoculars
and seeing the Imperial ship chasing Princess Lea's at the beginning of the
film and saying "xxxxx" (don't remember).  Luke visiting his brother Biggs
in town before he (Biggs) went off to join the Rebels.  And Luke racing
through town (to talk to Biggs) and almost running down an old lady who was
crossing the street.

I think what happened is that I saw an original release in limited release
and then shortly afterward, when it was found that the film was a mega-hit,
it was cut to get it down to almost exactly 2 hours (so that more showings
could be fit into a theaters day.)

Steve
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From: mce@tc.fluke.COM (Brian McElhinney)
Subject: Re: THE ABYSS collector's set
Organization: Software of the Mist
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 23:36:04 GMT

wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce) writes:

>What you apparently got was one person's opinion.  Below is the text
>from Sight & Sound's newly released October catalog:
>
>"This special edition restores 37 minutes of footage not shown in
>theaters, the bulk of which is dramatic footage of gargantuan tidal
>waves threatening various cities.  The new digitally mastered transfer
>was supervised by James Cameron.  Includes an interview with Cameron,
>behind-the-scenes footage, production art work, original special
>effects storyboards, rare production photographs, screenplay exerpts, an
>annotated history of the production, and original advertising materials.
>Delux boxed set comes with a full-color brochure including program
>notes, chapter listing and a viewer's guide to additional scenes.
>closed captioned, surround, 177 minutes in CAV format.   $99.95 list.
>(20% off if ordered by Dec 31).

You might also be interested in Cameron's recent interview The Perfect
Vision (sorry, my issue is at home so I can't quote chapter and
verse).

Cameron compared the director's cut of ALIENS with the upcoming cut of
THE ABYSS, saying changes in ALIENS were small and got smaller as the
movie went on, and didn't really change the movie in any fundamental
way.

But the director's cut of THE ABYSS, changes don't really appear until
the second half of the movie, and they get larger and more significant
as it goes.  To the point he felt it would "upset" some people, and
that it was really a "different movie".
 
As someone who feels the present ending is a serious flaw an otherwise
excellent move, I'm VERY excited.  (Please, no flames; I'm well aware
that some people love the movie as is; sounds like Cameron is too.)

 
Brian McElhinney
mce@tc.fluke.com
From: synth@deepthought.unm.edu (Synth F. Oberheim)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: THE ABYSS collector's set
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:34:17 GMT
Organization: SynthMedia Productions Ltd -- Now Appearing Nightly With DON HO


scottg@amiganet.chi.il.us (Scott Gittlitz) writes:

Scott> I was happy to hear from the person at Sight & Sound that the disc
Scott> has been moved up from its Dec. 14? date to I believe late November.

You might want to call again.  Sight & Sound has informed me that it's
been delayed until next February.


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From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: It's official: MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL on LD (Criterion, late Nov.)
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:31:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: NASA GSFC

In article <1992Oct14.164139.23409@nas.nasa.gov>, fineberg@win31.nas.nasa.gov (Samuel A. Fineberg) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Oct14.000938.4432@njitgw.njit.edu>, meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman) writes:
> |> According to Voyager, 'Grail' will now be pressed in CLV with the
> |> goodies for $49.99. Yes, it'll be widescreen (You would think they'd do
> |> it any other way?) and the commentaries will still be on there.
> |> 
> |> ===========================================================================
> |> Most popular items at Star Trek Conventions:  |		 Mike
> |> 	3% - Autographs, 97% - Spock Ears     |	  meg5184@hertz.njit.edu
> |> ===========================================================================
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> |> ================================AOL: Graphix@AOL.COM=======================
> Any idea when this will be released?
> 
> Sam
> 

Tewksbury Audio/Video told me that the latest reported release date is at
the end of November.

Steve
>
From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: It's official: MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL on LD (Criterion, late Nov.)
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:09:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

According to Voyager, 'Grail' will now be pressed in CLV with the
goodies for $49.99. Yes, it'll be widescreen (You would think they'd do
it any other way?) and the commentaries will still be on there.

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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: LD version of BLADE RUNNER director cut (was: List your laserdiscs)
Followup-To: rec.video.releases
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:53:53 GMT

In <1992Oct13.223809.15338@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov> jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke) writes:

>This obsoletion can even occur now -- take Blade Runner.  In my opinion the
>Directors Cut is so superior to the original version that my Criterion CAV
>version of the movie itself will be obsolete when a good letterboxed version
>of the Director's Cut is released (I hope Voyager plans to do this), EXCEPT
>that it has some very interesting extras that not only made me enjoy the
>Criterion disc more, but the Directors Cut more as well.

I stronly suspect that the first letterboxed LD edition of the Director's cut
of BLADERUNNER will be available from Warner Video.  They have released the
prints of the D.C. version, and the box office receipts are certainly
clueing them into the number of people who are going to see this.
(Considering the amount of bombs/direct to video programs they release on
laserdisc, I can't imagine this film not getting a letterboxed transfer to
LD.) 

                           "Be good -- go to church. Be good -- go to church.
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: It's official: MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL on LD (Criterion, late Nov.)
Date: 15 Oct 92 11:48:28 GMT
	<1992Oct13.212802.14462@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov>
	<1992Oct15.001500.26065@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com's message of 15 Oct 92 00:15:00 GMT

>>>>> On 15 Oct 92 00:15:00 GMT, conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach) said:

> I suspect it's one of those films where letterboxing would make very
> little difference. 

conty> I decided to re-check MP&THG in A&E earlier this week, to see
conty> if claim #2 was true.

conty> IT IS NOT!!

conty> There are many places in this film (especially the animation)
conty> where things were cut off.  Characters pointing to someone else
conty> who was cut off the scene to the right, chopped-off text, the
conty> works.  If Criterion doesn't release this film letterboxed, I'm
conty> not going to buy it.  

I agree. One prime example is after God talks to the cast, "Quest for
the Holy Grail" appears on the screen in animation. The word Grail is
cut off half way through the G.
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From: jonke@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Stephen Jonke)
Subject: Re: apect ratio for Prospero's Books
Organization: NASA GSFC
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 14:12:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.190817.15201@news.media.mit.edu>, wave@waits.media.mit.edu (Michael B. Johnson) writes:
> 
> Well, I have some friends who did effects on it, and they did it in HiVision,
> which is Japan's currently available HDTV system.  The aspect ratio for that
> system is 16:9, so I assume that's what the feature is at.
> 

The big question is not what the "physical" aspect ratio was, but what was
the framed (artistic) aspect ratio?  Just because HDTV was used, does not
mean that they did not use a Super 35 type approach and framed it for a wider
aspect ratio (and used a mask).

Steve
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From: dylan@cs.washington.edu (Dylan McNamee)
Subject: Alien box set mini-review
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 04:59:11 GMT


I just got my copy of the new Alien special edition box set.  It is
three CAV disks, with a 3-fold cardboard insert.  The insert is essentially
content-free.  Summary of my impressions:  "wowza."

The transfer, from what I saw of it (3 sides) is excellent.  The only
flaws I noticed were some fluctuations in constant-shade backgrounds.
The print it was made from has a few flaws though.  Some of the space
scenes are flecked with white spots, hairs, scratches, etc.  I'm being
really nit-picky here, though, because overall, it is very very good.

The extras disk is pretty neat.  Two sides CAV, with notes on the 
development of the story/script, background of the film, production notes,
drawings and photos.  The neatest parts (for me) are the film clips,
including a few excluded scenes, including the famed "cocoon" scene.
My only complaint here is that _all_ the clips are in chapter 17, with
stills describing the clip, and a "press play to view clip" notice at
the bottom.  That, and the fact that the clips aren't described in the
gatefold.

Anyway, it's very good, it's a great movie, they give you enough extras
to not feel silly paying the big bucks for it, as long as you like the
movie...

dylan
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From: mj4@prism.gatech.EDU (JONES,MICHAEL D.)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Golden Age Of Looney Toons Vol III -- Released yet???
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:17:13 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


Has anyone heard when the Golden Age Of Looney Toons Vol III is supposed
to be released?  In a previous post, someone stated that this would be the
last one.  Is this true?  Surely there are more than 210 MGM cartoons prior
to 1948.

Michael

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From: meg5184@hertz.njit.edu (Starman)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: THE ABYSS collector's set (on HOLD!!!)
Date: 14 Oct 92 00:07:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

According to Image's latest fax to my local video store, 'The Abyss'
laser disc is on indefinite hold and will NOT be out on Dec. 19th. This
is a fax from Image themselves so don't be so sceptical. They are still
working on it...it'll just be a bit late, that's all.

=============================== Mike Gaines ============================
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= WHAT is your quest?.............................I seek the Holy Grail=
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Alien SE LD
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:25:18 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu


Well I finally got the Alien SE LD in the mail yesterday, and watched
the supplement disc last night. It was exellent. It was really
intresting to see what the early script version were like, compared to
the final movie, and also to see the little bits of film that were
cut, in order the give the alien a more mysterious, non-human like
image. Also one thing that I was really happy to see was a painting of
the derelick ship. All the shots in the movie are vague, and you can't
really see the entire shape of the ship. But in the supplement, there
is a top view painting in scale of it, so you can see exactly what the
shape of the entire ship is. One thing that was a little bit of a let
down was the famed "cocoon-scene". It wasn't as spectacular as my
anticipation had made it out to be. It was good, but after all the
hype, I was expecting something more. Overall the supplements are
outstanding, which make this set a must have for Alien fans.


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From: hofbauer@csri.toronto.edu (John Hofbauer)
Subject: Re: Warner Laser Disc Pressing Flaws?
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:30:36 GMT

>  William R. Cruce wrote:
>> I recently looked at a couple of new Warner (WEA) pressings of laser
>
>  I haven't yet had the "pleasure" of watching any WEA discs.

I, too, have studiously avoided WEA discs and plan to continue to do so
until they get the bugs out.  My first uncomfortable exception to this
rule will be the upcoming Looney Tunes discs.  I hope these will be O.K.
Surely after almost one year they've managed to debug the plant.  Or
maybe I should say "delouse it"?
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From: stuam@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr O A Machado)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: Road Warrior - undubbed original language
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:54:24 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
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In article <1992Oct10.005942.17873@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:
>Now unless I have my versions mixed, Road Warrior has always
>been on video in the US in a version with "American" voices
>dubbed over the 'foreign' Australian original.  Always had the
>dis-embodied un-natural sound, and some strang lip-syscing at
>times.

I think you're thinking of the first Mad Max film. This was originally 
dubbed over with American voices, but has now been released here in the 
UK on video with the original Australian soundtrack. It's letterboxed as
well BTW.
Mad Max II (The Road Warrior) has always (at least in the UK, and I think
in the US as well) had the Austrailian voices.


Orlando
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.video.releases
Subject: Re: It's official: MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL on LD (Criterion, late Nov.)
Keywords: Python LD
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:51:12 GMT
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/

In <1992Oct2.173058.18980@eecs.nwu.edu> kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:

>Don't get too worked up. According to the guys at Laser Craze, this will not 
>be out until late next year.

Ken Crane's is advertising it as coming out late in November of this year.

                           "As we were walking around in the store, Marilyn
                            and I were just really impressed by all of the
                            novelties and the different types of little things
                            that you could get for Christmas.  And all the
                            people that would help you, they were dressed up
                            in things that said, ``I believe in Santa
                            Claus.''  And the only thing that I could think
                            is that I believe in George Bush."
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From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Road Warrior - undubbed original language
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:58:22 GMT

In article <1be9t0INNe4d@lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk> stuam@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr O A Machado) writes:

>In article <1992Oct10.005942.17873@bilver.uucp> bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion) writes:

>>Now unless I have my versions mixed, Road Warrior has always
>>been on video in the US in a version with "American" voices
>>dubbed over the 'foreign' Australian original.  Always had the
>>dis-embodied un-natural sound, and some strang lip-syscing at
>>times.

>I think you're thinking of the first Mad Max film. This was originally 
>dubbed over with American voices, but has now been released here in the 
>UK on video with the original Australian soundtrack. It's letterboxed as

As I have also informed by mail, yes I did have my versions mixed up.
Boy do I feel terminally stupid - but that's not all that unusual for
me.

And now there is hope we can get an undubbed LBX in the states if it's
out over there.

Thanks.


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From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: Warner Laser Disc Pressing Flaws?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:44:33 GMT
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
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William R. Cruce (wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu) wrote:
> I recently looked at a couple of new Warner (WEA) pressings of laser

I haven't yet had the "pleasure" of watching any WEA discs.

> Both disc jackets proudly proclaim "digitally processed."  Could
> this be some artifact of digital processing (perhaps badly done)

"Digitally Processed" is Warnerspeak for "Digital Sound".

> or is it a marginal pressing defect, related to the problems 
> that have been reported on pressings from the new Warner plant.

Most likely.

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From: wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu (William R. Cruce)
Subject: New Problem with Laserdisc Mint Marks
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:20:13 GMT

The latest issue of LaserScene magazine (October 1992) reports a new
problem in the use of mint marks to determine pressing plant for
laser discs (see page 1 of issue).  It seems that at least two recent
releases, THE FLASH and ERIC CLAPTON UNPLUGGED had their glass masters
cut at the Sony DADC plant, thus they have the usual Sony mint marks.
However Warner says the actual discs were replicated by WEA (as indicated
on the jacket covers).
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