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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:13:10 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
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>Fiorello LaGuardia was mayor of New York City sometime when I was little:

I have heard that people could tell which of his three (or four?) languages
La Guardia was speaking in only by looking at his gestures.

Just a kind of tidbit which sticks in the mind.

tushar
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU>
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On Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:21:10 CDT <tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU> said:
>In what situations can one open the trunk from the inside of a car
>and not need to get out of the car?
>
In the example cited which inspired this sub-thread....and when
you are getting your car from a parking lot, say, and then letting
the serving-person (grocery carryout person, etc) put the packages in
the trunk for you, etc.  Also could be for bellpersons, and so forth.

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On Mon, 5 Oct 1992 HELP%Help%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU wrote:

> Traci is that you?  You never did answer my ? on meaningless sex?
>
>
> 					NITEMAN

Nitey, old pal, this is a self-answering question. BTW, did that
neurotransmitter shipment ever get in from Sri Lanka?

-abh
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Thanks Natalie,  We love you.

                   Country
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> list-stable, he or she would reduce the volume considerably.  Offhand, I
> would guess the traffic would dwindle to roughly 15-20 messages a day--
> most of them signed by ggs, Tushar, and me.
>
> Marty

That'll be the day -- when Tushar and ggs, two notable Hogs, restrained
themselves to posting 15-20 messages a day between them.  Heck, it'd be
worth giving up posting entirely to see if it could be achieved.

rashmi
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From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Santa

Sorry to say that the topic was closed, I have to reply to this.

>You certainly managed to stump abh and Natalie,

I wonder now whether it takes anything to stump them at all.


>                    And though I remember the Santa letter of long ago, I
>don't recall you being identified as the culprit back then.

Neither do I. I generally remember such things.


>Of course, a lot of people might say who cares, they're probably right.

Ever since I started getting named for FAKING letters, I started caring.


>Also, one of the Aelfchen letters was pure Harwell.  It's deleted now, so I
>can't quote it, but it was good.

Here:

=Tush, babes, come here for a minute.  You seem to be getting a little uptight
=about this. Chill, baby, chill. Catch the cold bus and take it easy. Periods
=between paragraphs?  Aping ain't easy? You slay me, bigboy, you really do.  And
=you're not even close. You're driftin' like a log on a lake.  Well slap me with
=butter and call me slippery.
=
=I remain not-so-faithfully yours,
=
=
=Aelfchen

All done with no intention to imitate anyone at all, you know.

tushar
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----------------------------Original message----------------------------
JAG did a really inefficient job of responding to one of my earlier
posts.  I'm trying to parse it to make sense of it.  Early on I think
he's asking if I meant "free enterprise" when I wrote "free people."
To a naive view, yes.  But I prefer the construction "free people"
--this po lil' 'inefficient' naive democrat begs your emminence's
  indulgence by requesting explication of the concept "free people".


because the "free people" provide the "enterprise."

Further down, he notes,

"private education is not noted by (sic) its efficiency"
-- ah jes love this siccative wit!

Would you elaborate on this, jag?  Last time I checked, Northwestern,
Harvard, and the University of Chicago were private; Catholic high
schools offered education rather than imprisonment to inner city

--kARLSON (sic): 'Private' educational institutions are expensive and,
in addition, are heavily supported and subsidized by the government: direct
subsidy through grants, contracts, etc. and indirect subsidy through the
tax code.  That they educate a minute portion of the 'underclasses' is
irrelevant, they are basically designed to serve the elite.


kids, and a lot of urban politicians and their wealthy allies sent
their kids to private schools.  What am I missing in your response?

> %oil co% agreements and collusion with other 'entrepreneurs'

Any evidence?
--sure, but you'll reject it.  There have been numerous prosecutions for
collusive arrangements among oil companies (the most well know recent ones
occurred as a result of the 70's "Energy Crisis" but the have occurred both
before and since.  Oil companies bid on government 'exploration leases'
and tie up large sections of 'probably productive land'; they get these leases
cheaply and use 'arrangements' with individuals to circumvent the
public lottery and bid procedures.  You got your head in the sand?


Steve Karlson

"The world has suffered more tyranny and poverty than need have been
because it has clutched ... bad economics."
--                          ---------------
                            economic theories or
                            economists?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
parse away dear boy.

JAG
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In a previous article, dorisann@TENET.EDU (Doris Smith) says:

>Is Borders a regional chain bookstore - of the upscale type?  I've not
>seen nor heard of them in this part of the country.
>
Me neither - we have B. Dalton <ecch>, Waldenbooks <gag>, Encore Books <double
gag>, and Doubleday <not so gaggish>.  There are some fairly good independant
stores in the state, but you have to know where to dig.  

>
-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
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From:         "(Natalie Maynor)" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject: Re: more Santa explanation
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I thought Santa was Galmin.  Re birthdays -- here's one happy thought, Chris:
You'll feel much better ten years from now.  I sank into despair over reaching
30 but felt fine about 40.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         "Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980 (815)"
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"Do you do model trains, Steve?  If so, you might be interested in the one
on p. 57 of the Neiman-Marcus xmas catalogue.  It's pretty basic -- no
fancy tunnels or switches or anything like that.  But it's kind of cute."

Gosh, Natalie, you mean I've been spending all my time converting
measurements on drawings, sawing little bits of wood to the right
length, drilling and tapping, inserting small pins with tweezers,
airbrushing and decaling, when all I had to do was send Neiman some
money and open up the box :-) :-)

I trust you're using a different sense of "cute" in different posts?

Steve Karlson
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              at Sep 29, 92 11:15 am

>
> This one's a little too easy, tushies.  Who received compliments?  You and
> anne, mostly.  Who trumpets their own horn most on this list? You.  Who has a
> history of posting fake messages. You.
>
> Nice try, anyway.  We lowlies with only bitnet access (but maybe not much
> longer.  Internet may be on its way!!!) perhaps can't do the fancy stuff, but
> we sure as heck can spot those who can. Try playing an elf next time.
						^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Which kind? That may be even easier.
>
> Chris
>

Agnes
of the "Bright Eyes"
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>If I have to guess, I'd say this was abh.  But I could be wrong. :)
>
>Evelyn

You know, after all the harping I did at Tushar yesterday, I got to thinking
about Anne.  So I sent her a message.  She pointed me in the right direction.
I was correct after all.

Chris
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Greetings, Brad,

There was no category for "best taste in music."  Had there been, you'd
have swept it for your keen advocacy of Elvis Presley.  Which reminds
me, I think I have a tape of yours (but you can keep Joshua Judges Ruth).

Marty
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*** Resending note of 10/06/92 14:25

>arbitrary point, she declared that I had lost. I suggested another game.

Of chess?
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Subject:      Re: WFF: An astounding finding!

>nice job, *ts*, but it won't make up for the fact that you scored
>*22* on the <penetrating insight> test out of a possible 128.
>These statistics, however, are fairly accurate, though thrown off
>a little by what I did not explain before:  that some wordslers
>named more than one person in some categories and all named were
>recorded

That means there are some people who even voted for more than one
person in "most unpleasant". G Toal and me, I'll bet. We might even
become friends one day; passed through the furnace, both of us, and
I am even now thinking what a great guy Graham is ...

>                                                  An overwhelming
>number of wslrs voted for *themselves* for both nice and nasty
>races.

Very cute.

>After this experience, I have to conclude that *I* (-ggs) have
>by far the smallest <ego> of the bunch.

My ego is the smallest.

>--ggs (fondly and devotedly yours and wondering why not a *single*
>person has wondered who got the prize for <dumbest questions>...?)

Because asking would be ... er.

It WAS interesting, though, to see that only one category had to have
suppressed names in order to preserve decorum.

Besides, given the extremely short term memory on the basis of which
a lot of people seem to have posted, it's easy to guess the first place.

tushar
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  Evelyn says:

  >>Of chess?
  >Hope not.

  Alas, the situation was fraught with complications! There was a third
person involved. It was all very idiotic. Now, in my dotage, I am happily
unencumbered by such things.

  Actually, only a few years before the chess episode, my love life was
just as uncomplicated as it is now, although in a different key. Allow
me to entertain you (I hope) with this the first in my chronological series
of "Romantic Sonnets", reflecting on 1969:


          No less in love for being rather drunk
          I put it to her that her beauty was
          a thing of wonder. Maybe it was bunk,
          but I believed it, and my sense of loss
          was truly awful as I (having slipped
          somehow, and landed on the disco floor)
          perceived her being snatched away and gripped
          lasciviously by some dismal bore
          who stole a march on me by standing up.
          The whole thing seemed to me distinctly grim,
          but even as I drained this bitter cup
          I had to smile, untangling limb from limb:
          Who else, I thought, could touch my drunken heart,
          or cause my cunning schemes to fall apart?
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>> Standard unsubstantiated and false accusation, Harwell! Please,
>>
>> tushar!
>
>Yeah, well the *next* contest is going to be a Sword Drill, and
>then we'll see if *ts* is a <Sunday School Teacher>.
>...(Uncle Harry's Not A Missionary Now...)
>--ggs (quoting Noel C.)

This is what I call clueless newbieness. Although to be fair, it might
just be a lapse of memory.

tushar
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> Sometimes, but not always true.  There are plenty of people who do not
> fall within that category, just like there are plenty of us pagans who do
> not call themselves Wiccan, thank you very much.  And unless you know the
> person in question, you have no bloody idea whether s/he has any
> historical basis for what s/he is doing.  So bugger off.
                                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> -----Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik-------------------------------*<:-)------------

Well I never.  Where did you learn to talk like this, young lady.
You can be sure that this will be reported <posthaste> to your
mother, who would not approve of this kind of language.
--ggs (that's *Uncle* ggs to you...)
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Roninocity Revoked

     As of 8:30 a.m. MDT, October 5, 1992, I will cease to have ronin
status.  Since I will no longer be ronin, and since there no longer is
a second Bob posting, I will return to signing my postings Bob.  Quiet
down, Graham.  Consider the others on the list.  Besides, I am not
changing my subscription names.  Yet.

     I will be working for a group called Information Foundation.  I
spend the next two weeks in orientation/training, then a week or two
here doing something, then I move out to Northern Virginia (i.e.
southern D.C.).  I have been told that there is UUCP connectivity
available, but I am uncertain as to exact access privs at this time.
I will let you know more when I do.

     Although it initially looked like I would have to interrupt my
schooling, it now appears that I will be able to finish off a degree
at Metro while living in Virginia.  All I have to do is finish my
current course via e-mail, successfully challenge one English course
so that I can transfer in credit in a second English course, and
change majors (again) to remove the requirement for my remaining
computer course.  Piece of cake.  If all goes well, I still graduate
'on time' (May '93).  If not, I would have to take a course in
Virginia and transfer it back to Metro, then graduate.  The time spent
the last couple of days setting this up has been an education in
itself.

     I also will have two weeks vacation by the time of the goat
roast, so I make it better than a 50-50 shot that I will make the
WORDS-L Summer Party.  :-).  :-).  :-).  :-).

     This also puts me not too far (2-3 hours, I think) from my sister
in Maryland.

     All in all, a <good thing>.

Bob
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>Er, Ruth, not tryong to be <prescriptivist> or anything, but balls-up is
>*good*. Tits-up is bad.
>
>-abh
>OOf! I just uncovered more sexist language
>Think I'll get a <love note> from Phyllis Schlafly?

My RHD says Ball-up: slang. a state of confusion; mixup.  Also, *esp*
Brit., Balls-up. [n. use of v. phrase ball up].

Maybe you'll get some Shoefly pie . . .

No, but seriously folks, sexist language . . .  You ever heard of the guy
in Princeton who hands out the government euphemism of the year award?  It
must have been about five years ago.  Clue to this: the army, in various
manuals, decided no longer to kill the enemy.  Instead, now they . . .
SERVICE THE TARGET.  (We know who wears the pants in the world.)

Now, if you will excuse me, I am off for a drive, top off the newly welded
914, to Hindustan in the gloriou October afternoon the gods have provided.
When I get back . . . Gleanings.  I got gleaned THREE TIMES.  I'm not
proud.

-K

-Mka
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              29 Sep 1992 14:21:55 -0400 from <crosen@ANDY.BGSU.EDU>

>Lisa, if you call this "good company" you are corrupted beyond redemption!

>>>                 natalie/*ts*/karen/lisa/gt/don/brad

  That's it for me.  First the humiliation of getting just one vote
  in the whole damned Family Feud thing, and now this Marty character,
  whose musical tastes run to ersatz rockabilly, charges me with
  corrupting young women.  I am unsubbing immediately.

  brad

  BTW, Santa Claus is Frank W. Peters.
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Well, I made it to Austin safe and sound, but that damn detector I bought
yesterday did nothing but notify me of every trucker who was broadcasting
on the CB. I saw one cop, a state trooper in the Pursuit Z-20 Camaro, and
he was packing radar and laser weaponry. The damn detector didn't register
a thing--I saw his lights and rolled off the throttle (erp, that's m/c
talk again). Mr. Walton is going to see my cheery face as soon as I get
back home when I return this piece of crap.

-abh
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On Sat, 3 Oct 1992 ktw@mhwpa.att.com wrote:

> On Saturdays in the summer, we'd pool our money, get a keg of beer and
> some bottles of Four Roses.  Someone would set up a phonograph

Oh, these *are* classy people...

> with them.  A sow bit a kid.  A dog killed another dog while its
> owner, one of the new people, stood by and watched.  The new people

But I thought Bernard and Muffy got along better! And a **sow** biting a
kid? Oh please. I've nursed so many newbies to life around here that it
makes Romulus' and Remus' wolf look like a piker.

-abh
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              Sep 28, 92 10:37 pm

So, when are you going to post the results to <your little> poll?
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 22 Robert the Bruce - was a king of Scotland during the 14th century and
was instrumental in freeing Scotland from English rule.  Legend has it
that one day when he was despondent and thinking of giving up, he noticed
a spider spinning its web.  The web would be ruined in one way or another,
but the spider would spin another, only to have it damaged then would spin
another.  Watching the perseverance of the spider gave RtB the incentive
to keep trying, and he finally succeeded - at Bannockburn, I think.
Graham, the Scotsman, or some of the historians on the list can probably
relate this tale more accurately than I, as it has been many a year since
I read of it.

doris smith (dorisann@tenet.edu)
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Subject:      Re: Andrew's wake (fwd)

> Seeing that so many on this list are in hurricane-prone areas...
> Agnes

And that so many on this list grasp the idea that "technology" is
not a dirty word.  Thanks.

Steve Karlson
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