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From: jch@jch_sun.cs.adfa.oz.au (Jeff Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,aus.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Kiwi Cruising
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:11:51 GMT
Reply-To: j-howard@adfa.oz.au
Organization: Australian Defence Force Academy

In article <C1A0pK.ByC@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>, dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Flash) writes:
|> >In article 1@mrluv2.dsto.oz.au, pittam@mrluv2.dsto.oz.au () writes:
|> >>Has anybody got any hints and tips, prices, contacts etc.  What time of year is
|> >>best for riding in NZ?  
|> 
|> In the summer (northern hemisphere) of '90, my wife, Princess Bud, and my son,
|> Elvis Bud, Jr. and I went to New Zealand (winter in the southern hemisphere).

[Flash's cage tour description followed ...]

I have just come back from doing a 10 day tour of the South island at the
beginning of January, '93. Unfortunately I was also in a cage, but most of the
way round I was thinking what fun it would be to do it on a bike. What Flash had 
to say is still true of the South. Lots of twisty roads and little traffic except 
for the top going from Nelson to Christchurch. Not many m'bikes either, although
there were lots of peddlers with huge thighs ...

Super petrol was cheapest around Ch'Church at 1.03 and unleaded was a little 
cheaper in the high 90's. Prices only varied by about 6c at the worst. 
Accomodation was easily available all of the way. We  stayed in motels, but 
hostels were everywhere if that is your preference.

There is lots to see on the South Island if your into nature. Penguins, whales,
seals and of course the kiwi itself. There are also glaciers to climb, glow worm
grotto's to visit and if you are into walking, there is no end of tracks all
over the place. Te Anow and Milford Sounds were also very good, although when
we were there it was very wet and there were lots of waterfalls on the sounds
but not much visibility. Unfortunately Queenstown was completely washed out when
we were passing through but we did see the kiwi there in the nature park near
the gondola.

If your taking your money in travellers chq. always use a bank. Westpac (and
others ??) charge 5c a chq. for cashing them. The window operations at airports
and the big cities take out about $NZ30 in every 400 you are cashing. This is 
probably true the world over but I guess I am just a naive traveller as we got
caught out.

Well this posting has probably already strayed away from the group so I better
leave it there, but I think it would be a great trip on a bike.  Cheers.
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From: npet@bnr.ca (Neil Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: UK advice wanted: BMWs, insurance
Date: 22 Jan 93 15:45:31 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
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O Morgan (own@castle.ed.ac.uk) wrote:
: Hi.  I'm thinking of getting one of these ex-police BMW's.  I haven't
: been riding a bike for 10 years so I know next to nothing about the bike
: scene.  A few questions:

Make sure you familiarise yourself with biking again before taking to the
road, especially before any city riding.  Edinburgh is too hectic a place
to learn to ride on your own in.

: - Are BMW maintenance costs reasonable.  I'm expecting them to be higher
: than for Japanes bikes but need to know whether if they are outrageously
: high.

BMW maintenance costs are high and unreasonable.  Some parts are unbeleivably
unreasonably high.  You can save by joining a BMW owners club and getting used
parts.  BMWs are not economical bikes.  I have spent a fortune on my K100RS
and it's only an '86 model.

:  
: - Can someone recommend a good insurance company for bikes, particularly
: one where you can have 1 or 2 additional names for not much more.
: I'll probably rent out a lockup, so it would be nice to find a company
: that'll take that into account.

I use Norwich Union through the Avis broker chain.  Not very cheap but the
best.  They have always pain my claims.

: - Anyone know of any lockups available in Edinburgh? 

Sorry, no.  I'm just a filthy Sassenach.

: Ta,

: Olly Morgan

Think nothing of it.


Nick (the BMWd Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford


M'Lud.
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From: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk (Tony Kidson)
Subject: Re: Norton Commander 
Distribution: world
Organization: Not much.
Reply-To: tony@morgan.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.18)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:48:22 +0000


In article <C182ys.I5F@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> cstringe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu writes:

><TLT101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>| Got a question as to value, My friend told me a guy has a 1970 model,
>| think its a 750. he might be interested in selling it, Supposedly in
>| good shape.  What is a good price for one and how are they for riding??
>
>
>Not much of a machine, British and all that. Maybe worth a $100 or so.
>Tell you what, I need a large paperweight, I could give $110 for it.
>
>
>Chuck Stringer       DoD# 794      'If it can't be learned from TV, it isn't
>1967 BSA Spitfire                           worth knowing'  -Calvin
>Email- cstringe@ucs.indiana.edu.
>

If it's 1970, it's a Norton Commando. The Commander is a modern rotary 
                                   ^             ^^ 
engined jobbie.

Tony

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From: ewl@world.std.com (Erich W Lantz)
Subject: Warm Beer/Brit Bikes
Summary: Why do Brits drink warm beer?
Keywords: beer British Lucas
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:14:19 GMT

I ran across this little gem some months ago in a popular US moto-mag:

Q. Why do the English drink warm beer?
A. Because of Lucas Refrigerators.


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From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Backed into
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:49:03 GMT

85p8379@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>In article <1993Jan20.203212.28173@cheshire.oxy.edu>, pursell@cheshire.oxy.edu (William Robert Pursell) writes:
>>   Yesterday a guy backed into me.  My front
>> fender was mangled and the front tire was
>> flattened.  Anyway, I took the fender off
>> and the tire holds air OK, but the steering 
>> isn't quite straight (bars angles slightly
>> to the right when riding in a straight line)
>>   Any suggestions on straightening the steering
>> head, and more importantly what to look for in
>> terms of possible damage (i.e. might cause the
>> bike to be unsafe)?  
>> 
>>   The bike is an '83 GS650L. (Suz)
>> 
>> -Bill Pursell
>> no .sig, no .plan, no .nothin'
>> 
>Hey Bill,

>One time someone knocked over my GPX250R while it was parked with the steering
>lock engaged-  it fell in such a way that the forks turned and- you guessed it-
>the handle bars did not !!  Erm, the bike handled like shit thereafter and in
>my pissed-offness I phoned my mechanic to ask what could be done.  He siad grab
>the front wheel between your legs and reef the bars back to their original
>alignment, just like a bicycle, simple as that.  You know what ?  It worked ! 
>Now my baby cruises in the direction the bars are pointed, just like the maker
>intended.  Try this, you'll like it.  Good luck.

Might I suggest that loosening the pinch bolts on the triple clamps
and doing this will make it a bit easier. Then tighten them when
you're done... Also make sure that the fork tubes are straight.


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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: non Re: magnetic tankbags
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 22:38:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.151700.21116@rd.hydro.on.ca> jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>In article <mjs.727693802@zen.sys.uea.ac.uk> mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith) writes:

    [amusing tale of horn-blasting deleted]

>I didn't know that they made bikes where the horn worked with the ignition
>off.

But it will happen with an aftermarket horn installed with aftermarket wiring,
direct from the battery, to handle the incresed load.  I have the problem off
setting off the Fiamms when I'm lock-to-locking it while the loaded 24-liter
tankbag is aboard.  Not a good thing when you're walking the bike off the
apartment patio at 6am.

Typical Fiamms Loudness Story: I was buckling the straps of the bag one
morning and accidentally hit the horn button.  Now I know how the BDI cagers
feel -- the neighbor happened to look over as I did it and said I jumped about
a foot.

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|        Cliff Weston           DoD# 0598          '92 Seca II (Tem)       |
|                                                                          |
|           I'm beginning to like them llamas more and more...             |
|                         -- Curtis Jackson                                |
|                                                                          |
|           the damned gloves will completely overshadow                   |
|      stuffing your arms up to the elbows in the fuzzy fleece.            |
|                         -- Martin Golding                                |
|                                                                          |
|         A friend uses big custodial rubber gloves for this,              |
|                  apparently with great success.                          |
|                         -- Jeffrey Friedl                                |
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From: fist@iscp.bellcore.com (Richard Pierson)
Subject: Re: Motorcycle workstands
Organization: Bellcore
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 19:42:48 GMT

In article <C1Iqo2.9Gv@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>,
Russell.P.Hughes@dartmouth.edu (Russell P. Hughes) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan27.012212.3520@nevada.edu>
|> nhodge@nevada.edu (nhodge@nevada.edu (Neil Hodge)) writes:
|> 
|> > I am wondering if there is a way to use a regular floor jack to
|> lift my 
|> > motorcycle for certain maintenance.  If not, which motorcycle
|> workstands are
|> > good quality and do they lift up the rear wheel, front wheel, or
|> other part of
|> > the bike.
|> 
|> I use Cycle Jack, from an outfit in Nebraska.  Costs about $350 but
|> works well, is easy to maneuver, and it is great for putting the
|> bike
|> up for the winter *sigh*
|> 
|> Russ Hughes 

Hit up an auction where they are auctioning off tools from
gas stations and other auto/truck repairers. What you want is
a low slung transmission jack that has 4 wheels. Once you get
it have a shop make up a 24" x 5' frame and fit it to the jack.
Then use 2x6 and 1"plywood to make a platform on top of the
frame. Use 2 tie down straps (front and rear) once on the
platform you can wheel it anywhere you want to, including
up about 14" (depending on the jack size). You will also
have to make a ramp for it.
A neighbor of mine took a low slung creeper from MAC and
removed the padding and pillow and built a platform for it.
Now he just wheels his bike on to the platform and pushes
it around the cellar and out of the way, no more horsing
it around to line up with the door or move it out of the
way.

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From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Definitive HD TV/Vid Authorized Collec
Date: 28 Jan 1993 15:02:44 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 1977@pages.com, bigdog!jon (Jon Wright) writes:
>
>Nah, emotions change with the wind and fade with age.  The bike'll just remain  
>in it's present state and improve with age.

Women, red wines, and good friendships improve with age.

Motorcycles rust.

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 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: What metzeler recommends for tire pressures
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:39:40 GMT
Organization: UEA School of Information Systems, Norwich, UK.

space@bcarh2b1 (Scott Pace) writes:

>Anyone got a 1-800 number for Metzeler?


Noooo...but I do have the Metzeler leaflet with all the recommended
fittings and pressures...it is a very comprehensive list...ever heard
of a Donghai SM750? Neither have I, but it's on the list!!

If you want me to look anything up, mail me, mjs@uk.ac.uea.sys

Mike
From: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: CBR600F2 dethroned by '93 ZX-6. Whine.
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:29:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems (UK) Ltd
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: discovery.uk.sun.com

In article 9353@gdr.bath.ac.uk,  bsstrs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (T R Stickland) writes:
>>
>>OH MY GOD!  What will I do now?!?!  Some guy named Stickland in England
>>doesn't think much of us Americans because two of us don't ride fast
>>enough!  Oh Calamity!
>>
>>David.
>
>Well, you get the award for total miscomprehension of that post.
>
>Now, was I:
>

You were gratuitously insulting a whole continent without using a smiley.
It must be time to get a DoD number.

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From: pursell@cheshire.oxy.edu (William Robert Pursell)
Subject: Re: Backed into
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA.  USA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:45:37 GMT

>
>
>I learned riding in Japan, and had spent a couple of years riding dippy
>scooters before getting a motorcycle. In retrospect, this was a really
>lucky way to go, as it let me sort of ease into "nihonteki unten-dou"
>(``The Enlightened Way of the Japanese Driver'').
>
>To someone from The States, drivers in Japan appear to be *exceedingly*
>dangerous and rude. However, this is mostly because the American doesn't
>know "the rules"... what is and isn't common.  For example, it's common
>to drive at night with only parking brakes on. If you know this and pay
                                    ^^^^^^^^
I'm sure glad they don't use other brakes when they drive!


But seriously....this article has nothing to do with
the subject "backed into" or "re:backed into".  
I'm probably being overly sensitive, but I would
like to suggest that everyone start a new subject
line when they start up a new subject!

-Bill


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Subject: Re: alt.motorcycles.harley
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 09:11:54 GMT

In article <C1HEB5.Atp@cmptrc.lonestar.org> neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>In article <C1GnGB.IIM@fulcrum.co.uk> rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor) writes:
>>I note that the alt.motorcycles.harley group has gone terribly quiet.
>>Got bored talking to your fellow owners? Same old subjects - you know,
>>can't get it started, rust on the exhausts, where can I get a Harley
>>beer coaster, etc.
>>
>>Well, welcome back guys, we didn't miss you at all. :-)
>>Regards,
>
>Um, alt.motorcycles.harley has been pretty dead for a long time now, but
>REC.motorcycles.harley is alive and well. I receive from 10 to 30 new articles
>per day in that newsgroup.

Damn, every time I try and wind Harley owners up, I get it wrong.
Must be more careful.

	rec.motorcycle.harley 1
	DICK 0

Cheers,



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From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer)
Subject: Big Bore?
Organization: QUAD Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 05:46:45 GMT

To put to rest the 'ZX-11 vs CBR900RR, ..., (substitute your favority here)'
I point you to the latest issue of CYCLE NEWS, page 34. 

In vivid detail, Eric Vincent, describes the Formula 1 race at Willow Springs
raceway in Southern California (pretty much my favorite track). 

He describes how 3 riders dice for the lead around the high speed 
(average speed in excess of 100mph), 2.5 mile road course. Now Willow
Springs is a 9 turn high desert track with a twisty part (turns 3-6)
and a fast wide sweeper (turn 8) and front straight. It is considerably
faster than let's say Laguna Seca.

Two of the lead guys were riding GSXR1100 and the third, Nick Ienatsch,
was riding a - tada - TZ250.

I rest my case.


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From: willey@sumax.seattleu.edu (  steve willey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: choices
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:34:06 -0800
Organization: Seattle University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: sumax.seattleu.edu

choices, choices, choices.

what i'm looking for:
  - mid-sized four (?) 550-750 (i'm not a big person)
  - reliable for commuting and sport-touring
  
bikes that have caught my eye:
  - '84 Nighthawk S 700 - $1700 (for sale at a dealer)
  - '84(i think) V30 Magna - $2000 (also at a dealer)
  - '83 Nighthawk 650 - $900 (for sale by owner)

all of the bikes are in compirable condition, low rust, milage 10K + or - 2K.

questions: (proportional to cost)
  - is the magna that much nicer (consider + or smoothness and - maintenance)?
  - is the sportier riding position of the Nighthawk S any less comfortable on
long rides?
  - are there other nice bikes that fall into the same category as
these bikes that i should be looking out for?
  - is there life after the DoD?

any input would be appreciated,
steve



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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bigdog!jon (Jon Wright)
Subject: Re: really, really waterproof gloves?
Organization: Pages Software Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:50:02 GMT

Nick Pettefar writes
> For waterproof leather gloves, try Frank Thomas Aqua Gloves.  They are  
British,
> warm and waterproof.  I don't know if they are available over where you are
> though.  I have been using them for five years now and they are good.

From all the articles I've read in the Brit magazines, people either hate Frank  
Thomas stuff or really like it.  Those who oughta know include a bunch of  
dispatch riders interviewed in SuperBike.  There seemed to be a fairly good  
consensus on Frank Thomas stuff but enough questions about the durability to  
make it a chancey buy.  At any rate, nobody imports those goodies over on this  
side of the pond, which is a pity because if anybody knows anything about  
rainwear it should be the Brits, right?
From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: wanted:rd 250 info
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:37:10 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
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Jonothan Quist wrote:
Steven Van Dis (svdis31@ursa.calvin.edu) wrote:
: I just picked up a old Yam. RD250 for my winter project and I just wondered
: if anyone out there had any comments or info that could be of use. I think
: its a cool little bike and will be a lot of fun when done. Also has anyone
: ever done any mod's to an RD250? Thanks a lot for any help given.
:                                               Dis.
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Well,

 1) we used to skim the heads; 

 2) Put K&Ns on them and bigger main jets;

 3) Put Marzocchis on them;

 4) Put Oxford Handlebar fairings on them;

 5) Cut the back half of the baffles off;

 6) Put Spannies on them (Expansion pipes);

 7) Put a switch to turn the brake lights off when running from the Peelers;

 8) Stick a car-cassette-player in the now defunct air-box gap;

 9) Put racing plugs in;

10) Run them on Castrol 7R;

11) Keep them regularly de-coked;

12) Polish the piston tops;

13) Widen the exhaust ports;

14) Put low bars on them;

15) Put racing front tyres on them, Michelin usually;

16) Convert them to electronic-ignition;

17) Stick RD400 engines in them;

18) Put fibre-glass sporty front mudguards on them;

19) Accident damage the bar-lever ends;  This is compulsory for the RD image.

20) Put thicker fork-oil in;

21) Paint the fork-legs black;

22) Race everything in site and get banned a few times.


That's all I can remember from my^H^Hsomeone's misspent youth.


Jonathan E. Quist(Pseudo)	             Lachman Technology, Limited
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094	   Naperville, IL
 __	  There's nothing quite like the pitter-patter of little feet,
 \/		       followed by the words "Daddy!  What a bored bike!"
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