HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Rail to Rail...
Date: 28 Sep 1992 07:02:27 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: aragorn.cm.deakin.oz.au

In article <1992Sep28.000111.24350@cc.uow.edu.au> g9024557@cc.uow.edu.au (James Phillip ANDREW) writes:
>
>You don't have to come off the foam to get your speed back although it is
>cool if you can. I love those inside waves at Winkipop that wall up: one 
>can drive to the split second shoulder for a qick cutty/slash, spin back again
>on the tail and be off to full speed by the next bottom turn, ready to line up
>another such manoeuvre. I am sure that Lud can attest to such form at Winki.

Sure can, there's nothing like those clean straight swell's that wrap
in there, it's almost like playing california games, it's so
predictable, though it's usually a bit too fast to come back off the
foam at Winki.
The "straightness" and perfection of some of those classic swells has
to be seen to be believed, though I guess every break gets them at
some time or other.

>I remember one wave at Winki during the Easter Surfari where I managed to 
>string together 5 such moves in a row. I was stoked but my legs felt like 
>jelly:

It's good to hear someone else suffers from jelly legs after a long
ride :-), on sunday we had some nice head high waves at high tide
Rincon (Bells), that would take you right onto the sand, from way out
the back, probably a 45 second plus ride.
It required a bit of pumping to get enough speed to make that inside
section, and by the time I stepped off the board onto the sand , the
jelly legs syndrome was bad enough to make me think that I need some
sort of leg excercise regime to handle those long rides.

>The wave was longer than my ride but I fell trying to do a cutty 
>onto the foam: I had too much rail in and not enough speed to get around 
>onto the faom properly - don't you hate that !

Yeh, why does it always happen when you're trying to show off :-).

>Jim

Cheer's, keep surfing,
Lud.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: smith_bob_e@tandem.com (Robert Emery Smith)
Subject: Re: Dreamin about those classic sessions
Followup-To: alt.surfing
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1992 15:30:07 GMT

In article <1992Sep22.105822.9975@gdr.bath.ac.uk>, mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C
D Burdorf) wrote:
> 
> In the referenced article, cord@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Cord Phelps) writes:
> >
> >> Reminds me of perhaps my favorite session ever... a classic day at Black's
> >
> >
> >Reminds me of perhaps my favorite session ever... a classic day at Scripps
> 

Reminds me of my favorite session ever: last Saturday at Pleasure
Point in Santa Cruz.  The swell was around two feet, and there were
about 60 people in the water.  I saw a nice one coming through the
kelp bed, and heard Richard say, "It's yours, Bob.  Paddle hard!"

I paddled hard, felt the lift and acceleration, stood, and realized
several seconds later that the shore was getting close, and that
I was still cutting across the face of the wave, and that I had just
surfed a wave standing up for the first time in my life.  STOKE!  :-)

Can't wait to go back for more!

                                     Bob
From: brooks@gidday.enet.dec.com (Niguel Brooks)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: re : Surfin OZ
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:06:52 GMT
Reply-To: brooks@gidday.enet.dec.com (Niguel Brooks)
Followup-To: 2422 surfin OZ
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Rhodes Australia

Good Surfing beaches on the EAST COAST of OZ, Where do I start;


        There are hundreds of good spots, any place in particular??

                - Sydney  (narrabeen, Dee Why, Whale Beach, Cronulla)
                - South Coast  (Ulladulla way??, Green Island, Golf Course
reef)
                - Central Coast (Avoca,Forresters Beach)

        As I said Australia has so many good surfing breaks on the east coast to
mention
        I could suggest sending him a book written by Mark Warren (ex pro
surfer) called
        Mark Warrens's ATLAS of AUSTRALIAN SURFING (Angus & Robertson are the
        publishers)

        Hope this helps.

        From a AVID Sydney Surfer  :^)
        Nige
From: g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Fatal Shark attack in NE Australia
Date: 2 Oct 92 09:04:21 +0800
Organization: University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: fennel.cc.uwa.edu.au

Ive just heard on the Radio that there was a Shark attack in Queensland
Australia which resulted in a fatality of a surfer.

The report was that two surfers were out on a reef break when the shark
attacked. It was a 4-5 meter Tiger shark which attacked one of the surfers
without warning. The other surfer paddled to shore and then realised his
mate was getting attacked. So he tried to paddle back out but the crew on the 
beach restrained him. The shark 'played' with his pray for 15 minutes while
the people on the beach just stood there and watched helpless.

I think people who say Shark hunters like Vic Hislop who hunt Great Whites
every year, are killers, should go and have a chat with that poor surfers
family. Sharks may be natural hunters but the ones which interfere with humans
should be hunted out and destroyed.

A day which a fellow surfer dies from a shark attack is a very sad day.

Bundy.
From: Danny.Clark@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Danny Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Sept alt.surfing stats
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:25:23 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

We are now the 1218th most popular group on USENET' (we were 
979 in Aug).  We were even behind alt.butt.harp. 

I guess this can be explained by good surf,  (no time to post or read)
and the warped minds of everybody else on Usenet.

Danny


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From: g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: (love that VEGEMITE!)
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:36:41 +0800
Organization: University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: fennel.cc.uwa.edu.au

In article <19nsknINN2b4@fido.asd.sgi.com>, airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey) writes:
> 
> In article <2891@news.cerf.net>, mike_r@nic.cerf.net writes:
>> 
>> BTW, Everyone knows what Marmite is ?? It is this sort of disgusting
>> brown stuff that British people spread on toast. Sort of like a more
>> refined Vegemite.
>> 
>> Mike
>> "A Brit in Yank Land"
> 
>    I have british parents. On the trip my brother and I took to Baja,
>    we had marmite on that norwegian flatbread every other morning while
>    checking out the deserted chest high right point break that we surfed
>    for many days.  Had tea too.
> 
>    One guy asked us if we were austrAYlian; he must have figured we
>    couldn't get hold of Vegemite.
> 
>    So dude, you know who to surfari with next time. The marmite brothers.

I wouldnt even touch Maramite with my 6'5 squaretail even if it was forming
a gnarly 5-7 foot hell tube. 

VEGEMITE is the one and only "disgusting brown stuff" that I would spread on my 
toast and that is from a 5th generation true blue Aussie from the West.

Bundy.
From: airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Good northwest swell. S.C.
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:09:50 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: woof.asd.sgi.com


    At this particular second, I'm surfed out. Last two days have
    been pretty good. Lowish tide, solid northwest swell, water still
    warm. I guess that's why everybody likes the fall so much.

    Smallest wave I rode was probably about head high. Largest was
    a big wave in a big set. Easy double overhead. When they get 
    big like that, they aren't as hollow at the particular break
    I was surfing, so they are pretty easy to ride, if a little
    harder to catch. The head high ones are hollower.

    I did two big round house cutbacks on that one big wave. They
    weren't slashing cutbacks like I would have liked to do, 
    just pairs of hard carved 180 degree turns. 
    This is only the second or third time I've nabbed such a large wave, 
    so I'm satisfied, but I know I let myself get projected off the
    bottom turn too far along the wave to the nice round safe 
    shoulder before I cut back. One step at a time.

    I also had a head high wave that was jewel-like. Fast fringing
    wall. I got slotted, and just hung there, dragging a finger in
    the wave face. About as close to a tube as you can get at
    that break. Held up for a long time. Saw a guy watching
    with a big goofy grin, so I guess the wave looked as good
    from his perspective as it did from mine.

    Maybe Santa Barbara will get a little of this swell, if it's
    not too northerly. Anybody down there getting it?
From: crp5754@erfsys06.ca.boeing.com (chris payne)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surfer Sizes
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:01:57 GMT
Organization: Boeing Electromagnetics & RF Systems, Seattle, WA, USA

In article <1992Oct03.082931.14770@microsoft.com> johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.070339.1828@paradise.pegasus.com> bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson) writes:
>>side/offshore for over a week now. I use feet because I know how to
>>calculate wave height and hate the 1/1.5/double/triple overhead
>>convention that most alt.surfers use. 
>
>No not really.  Ya see we are all just really short!  Every surfer north 
>of Big Sur in Calif. is a midget.  So we are just giving you what is our
>perspective.  I know in the Pacific Northwest we shrink because it rains 
>so much (for you Aussies, the Pacific Northwest is known as a very wet 
>place, especially Washington where rains for 23.9 hours every day 365 days
>a year).  But in California I think it's because of the smog that covers 
>the whole state.  How 'bout it Airey or Leif, am I correct.  Hey Airey,
>I heard a rumor that you grew to 3'4" because of El Nino, is it true?  Well
>if you did remember to adjust your wave sizes when you post.  I'm personally
>only 2'8" tall so the waves look really big all the time to me.  Even Chrispy
>Chris who recently moved here from Hawaii (where it's REALLY BIG) has shrunk
>at least 2 1/2 feet since he took that job with Boeing (the airplane company)
>here in Seattle (I heard a rumor that in Seattle it actually rains 24 hours 
>a day 365 days a year, but that the tourism board was trying to keep it a 
>secret as not to scare away people from other states).  
>

Actually, I had some of that height removed, surgically, before I left Oahu, 
to avoid the weight gain commonly associated with shrinkage.  I haven't even
missed the portion of my intestinal tract that they removed.  I just wonder
how they're going to put it back when I move back.

At the risk of fanning the flames here... I *like* the overhead-relative 
measurements.  If I say the surf was chest-high, most people can get a 
fairly good idea of how high it is, whether I'm talking to John up here
in Latteland, Nigel downunder, or Ken Bradshaw at Sunset.  Sure, its an
approximation, since these folks don't know how tall I am.  But its closer
than having to say it was 3' Hawaiian and not know if the listener has ever
even been to Hawai'i.  And after all, folks, we're just talking story,
yeah?   
                          
              > >         Aloha,
         >      > >         Chris P. crp5754@erfsys01.boeing.com
     >        >   >>        
>             >    >      "Tired and worn, I woke up this morn,
               >           and found that I was confused.
                  >        Spun right around and found that I'd lost
                       >   the things that I couldn't lose."
From: p-kun@blacklabel.Japan.Sun.COM (Kevin Parrington - Nihon Sun Logistics)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Quick thanks..
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:20:01 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: blacklabel.japan.sun.com


	I forgot to tag the end of my Bali posting, a tad on the
	late side but, my thanks to J. Oakes and Tony Locke for
	their helpful info on Bali.


kp
From: none@nowhere (Ted Cox)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Buying a longboard
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:29:29 GMT
Organization: none
NNTP-Posting-Host: b50b-2wksg25.lbl.gov
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
X-XXDate: Mon, 5 Oct 92 16:28:47 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.182018.25474@samba.oit.unc.edu> Danny Clark,
Danny.Clark@bbs.oit.unc.edu writes:
>  It is a late 60's Gordon&Smith 10 ft board.
>I have not seen it yet, but he says it's in
>fairly good condition (no serious dings)
>He wants $50 for it.  He purchased it new
>in Santa Barbara.
>  I would not use it for any serious surfing,
>just goofing around when the surf was to 
>small to bodyboard.  
>  So, is this a good buy for a goof around board?
>Is there any collectors value in a board like this?
>Or should I save some more money and get
>one of the newer "fun shaped" boards?

Santa Cruz and God knows where else is experiencing a longboard
revolution:
the prices are premium for the 10 footers. Used boards are hard to find
and
vintage boards like the G&S your friend has hang on display with "Not for
Sale" signs posted.  I will give your friend $100 for it. Don't think you
won't
have fun on it, either. You can catch small waves and go for long rides.
They
are sweet and nice for teaching your friends how to surf. 

=B-0  Go for it!!!
P.S. I would really like to buy that board if you don't!
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa)
Subject: Re: Surf .gif Files
Organization: HP,NADO Santa Clara, CA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:57:43 GMT

In article <1ant82INNh6o@sol.deakin.OZ.AU> ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen) writes:
> In article <1992Oct03.072430.10016@microsoft.com> johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake) writes:
 
> >Can you post those to alt.binaries.pictures.misc so we all can have some
> >good surf pics for our screen savers.  If ya could that would be really
> >cool and nice of you.
 
> All I can do is Email them, (or ftp ?) so drop me a line if you want
> them.

Screw it all! Post 'em here. As long as this doesn't become alt.surfing.gifs, 
I would think a few posted here would be fine. Too, maybe someone would keep
an archive for us. Email them out on request... 

btw, I wouln't mind recieving a few of these in email. Thanks.

daniel.




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From: Danny.Clark@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Danny Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf Report for Hueneme
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:22:41 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

Surf Report for Hueneme Beach (2 miles south of Oxnard)
Hueneme (pronounced Why-nee-mee) is a long beach
break that is south facing. I (height 6'2") went out Saturday
morning with a friend (5'11") and his two sons (5'4" and 4'6").

There was a slight off-shore wind,  with the face of the waves
just before they broke in the 1.5 overhead range for me to triple
overhead for my friend's youngest son.  We had a stretch of about
100 yds of beach all to ourselves.

Being a beach break, the peaks were quite shifty, making timing
and luck the main ingredients in getting a good ride.  I had a couple
of "wet" tube rides (i.e. I'm in the tube, then get spit out forward
under the curtain as the wave closes out).  My friend was on light
weight long board and having a hard time sticking a bottom turn
before the lip hit him. (I offered him a bodyboard, but he declined)
He had some great wipeouts.  His oldest son was ripping it up on a 
6' thruster, getting some great air on the pullouts.

Danny

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From: ludwig@cm.deakin.OZ.AU (Ludwig Omachen)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surf .gif Files
Date: 7 Oct 1992 03:28:43 GMT
Organization: Deakin University, Geelong, Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: aragorn.cm.deakin.oz.au

In article <Bvnwo7.GFt@scd.hp.com> hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa) writes:

Stuff about surf gif files deleted....

>
>Screw it all! Post 'em here. As long as this doesn't become alt.surfing.gifs, 
>I would think a few posted here would be fine. Too, maybe someone would keep
>an archive for us. Email them out on request... 
>

I did post some gifs a long while ago, and was told it was not a good
idea to post gifs to non-picture groups, as a lot of people read the
news groups via modems, and get a bit pissed off by huge gif files
slowing things down.

Is this still a problem for this group ?

Speak now or forever be inundated with surf gifs :-).

>btw, I wouln't mind recieving a few of these in email. Thanks.

Done, well, soon to be done.

>daniel.

Cheer's, keep surfing,
Lud.
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Cut Japan a braek...
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:52:03 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia

p-kun@blacklabel.Japan.Sun.COM (Kevin Parrington - Nihon Sun Logistics) writes:

>>    I've recently been informed that waves only break in hawaii, so be
>>    careful.

I read an article in Tracks about a surf adventure with carrol,curren, slater,
and Sarge taking photo's.
It was pretty darn awesome.Some of the waves were easily 15 foot.
They compared the size and power strongly with the waves in Hawaii.
Tom Carrol ought to know he's surfed enough Hawaiin waves....I've got some 
gnarly photo's of the waves this guy surf's.


>	These locations are not know for their big wave...Inamura

I'll look that article up and put in the locations for you Kev.
Maybe you could check them out sometime...?
(Contract Work ?)

Bye ALL.
Nigel.
PS I've had a week of holidays with a mixed bag of surf....max six only
four feet from the back.... 1.4 head high.
Can't wait for some double to triple over-head surf to try out my new board.
-- 
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From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: .gif Files
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:12:35 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

I recieved a .gif of a guy doing a bottom turn at pipeline. If anyone
is interested, I'll try to make it available.  More..more...more...I
want more.


   O                                     There are two kinds of people:
   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833       The people who know alot, and
   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil         the people who want you to
  /     David Taylor Model Basin         think they know alot. The hard
   \___________________________          part is discerning the difference
			     \\          between the two.
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake)
Subject: Re: Hurricane Update From Las Isles'
Date: 03 Oct 92 08:29:31 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Oct1.070339.1828@paradise.pegasus.com> bud@paradise.pegasus.com (Bud Carlson) writes:
>side/offshore for over a week now. I use feet because I know how to
>calculate wave height and hate the 1/1.5/double/triple overhead
>convention that most alt.surfers use. BTW according to the National
>Weather Service the average annual surf in Hawaii is 5 feet and more
>waves break on Hawaiian shores than anywhere else in the world. So with
>that info I would like to know how so may people who post here find so
>many double and triple overhead waves to ride anyway. Huuum !! Make you
>wonder doesn't it ??
>


No not really.  Ya see we are all just really short!  Every surfer north 
of Big Sur in Calif. is a midget.  So we are just giving you what is our
perspective.  I know in the Pacific Northwest we shrink because it rains 
so much (for you Aussies, the Pacific Northwest is known as a very wet 
place, especially Washington where rains for 23.9 hours every day 365 days
a year).  But in California I think it's because of the smog that covers 
the whole state.  How 'bout it Airey or Leif, am I correct.  Hey Airey,
I heard a rumor that you grew to 3'4" because of El Nino, is it true?  Well
if you did remember to adjust your wave sizes when you post.  I'm personally
only 2'8" tall so the waves look really big all the time to me.  Even Chrispy
Chris who recently moved here from Hawaii (where it's REALLY BIG) has shrunk
at least 2 1/2 feet since he took that job with Boeing (the airplane company)
here in Seattle (I heard a rumor that in Seattle it actually rains 24 hours 
a day 365 days a year, but that the tourism board was trying to keep it a 
secret as not to scare away people from other states).  

well that's how we get all this Double and Triple Overhead surf all the 
time. So I will remember to tell my friend in Northern Oregon that just
because he lived on the point at Waimaie (sp?) and surfed the Bay whenever
it broke or lived in Bali for 5 months, was 5 minutes walk from Ulu Watu 
and surfed it alone at a solid 16 feet (Hawaiian Measurement) he doesn't 
know what a Double or Triple Overhead wave really is.  So I will tell my
friend Dan to adjust accordingly when he is telling me what the surf is 
like down there.




SORRY..........just having fun with the ALL-KNOWING............



                          NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Oh yeah, it is really raining outside right now............



AND I LOVE IT.




clean lines to all (not the white kind Nigel)


John H. Lake



Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: Re: suggestion for dealing with Oxnard locals.
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:49:02 GMT

airey@woof.asd.sgi.com (John Airey) writes:

[shit deleted]

>> >  The drawback to this quaint custom is that tradition 
>> >  dictates that you should leave quickly after delivering your 
>> >  trinkets, and I typically want to stay and surf. 
>> 
>> Dare I say it but....Only in America ? ( Does seem to fit well)
>> Why wait for the your problems to dissappear, when the solution
>> may be at hand ?
>> Buy a gun today...we have many specials to offer....
>> I saw that in an American magazine advert for guns.
>> It made me feel sick.
>> 
>> Nigel.
>> -- 
>> Life goes on...and on....

>  sick it is. But ask the Australian Aborigines if they think it is 
>  (or *was*, I guess, now that they are basically toast) "only in America".

That's something I blame on the British..... :-(

Yeah,shit happens ... everywhere !!!

>  Don't forget Nigel, you share genes with people who have erased 
>  many races and species from earth. Fact is, you are just a 
>  good upbringing away from being a very virulent version of human.
>  So don't get all high and holy with us savages, ok?

Me,high and holy....never.
Low and sneaky......always.

I suppose I have to concede to you that we could easily be in 
opposite situations,regarding gun-laws etc.
One thing I've always wondered is why Americans speak the way they do ????
Any taker's to answer my question ????


It's just the usual "aussies versus yanks" pay-out!!!
Don't take it to heart .... nothing personal....
Bye,
Keep surfing all,
Nigel.
-- 
Life goes on...and on....
From: dehaller@eldpa.epfl.ch
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Fatal Shark attack in NE Australia
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:49:25 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <1992Oct2.090421.1@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au>, g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au writes:
> Ive just heard on the Radio that there was a Shark attack in Queensland
> Australia which resulted in a fatality of a surfer.
> 
> Bundy.

Well,
on the island of La Reunion, in July or August, a body border lost his leg
and died soon after from haemorrhage. That is fatality, sharks remain a 
constant danger for watermen and surfers or body borders will always be
a possible pray for sharks.

And what about this gismo from South Africa known as shark repellent?
Everybody has heard about it?

Emmanuel.