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From:         "Aaron Dickey, The Happy Spore"
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Subject:      Bitnet or Internet Words-L?

Adam told me tonight that it would be better if I subscribed to WORDS-L
through Internet rather than Bitnet.  So I sent in a SUB request to
uga.cc.uga.edu, sat back, and waited.  Now, as expected, I am getting two
copies of each message, but the Internet copies are arriving at least
two hours after the Bitnet ones.  Anyone out there know if this is just a
temporary thing?  Is it better to subscribe through Internet rather than
Bitnet?  It's more important to me to get the posts as quickly as
possible; I can live with an occasional Bitnet link failure.  (Well,
it's not IMPORTANT, but that's my personal choice.)

--Aaron
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita%EFF.ORG@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Jones
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              92 6:09 pm

>      Wait a minute, it still may be.  I am Scottish, Irish, and Welsh.
> Quick, what are the heredities of the rest of the BWP's.  Is BWP'ing
> an 'ethnic' thing?

	Hmm.  Greek, Irish, Romanian, Italian, Austrian, and French.
As far as we know.

Rita
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From:         Carol Goodson <CGOODSON%UGA.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Degree-dropping (was: Re: A Modest Proposal)

regarding dbfabak (?)'s note about making the bad coffee for the officers...
That's called PASSIVE AGGRESSION, and I brought it to high art when I was in
the convent.   I hear you, brother (or sister)
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From:         Janet Teuber <C0229%UNIVSCVM.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Conversation Stoppers

On Thu, 9 Apr 1992 12:32:41 -0400 Rita said:

>        Are you kidding?  Not a single person in this office -- including
>our sys admins -- has a degree in computer science.  English degrees are
>the most popular (3), with business degrees being second in line (2).  We
>also
>have a librarian, and our new office manager has her degreein Art History.
>
>Czarina

Rita,
   When I first went to work as a programmer everybody I worked with had
come to programming by way of some other discipline.  I really enjoyed that
about my job.  Fortunately a lot of those people are still around, but more
and more we're hiring people with a two-year degree in data processing and
no prior study.  Not to knock the two-year degree, but I prefer the folks who
were ABD in some other field of study and THEN got the two-year DP degree, or
didn't "study" DP at all.  'Course those ABD people seem to fall in one of two
camps - either they're thankful to have a job, or bitter that it's not in
academia.  I'm not ABD, but I am thankful to have a job.  And though it's not
"in academia", it's at least on campus.

Janet
From: gtoal@castle.ed.ac.uk (Graham Toal)
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Subject: Re: Reflections on the matter of language change
Date: 17 Apr 92 00:46:11 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <WORDS-L%92041522303789@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU> FDOLEZAL%UGA.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Fredric) writes:
:On Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:28:37 CDT Natalie Maynor said:
:>> but the point is about whether something called 'culture' can effect change;
:>> if not, then the argument in previous posts are nullified; if so, you cannot
:>> claim innocence and INTENTION.  Either the'culture' intended to change in a
:>
:>Why not?   Some language changes are intentional; most are not.  I don't
:>see how the either-or can apply to changes as a whole.
:
:Hmmm. I guess I jumped in when y'all was jawing bout cultural change directing
:linguistic change.....I must have misunderstood your global point.
:>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)


You seem to have misunderstood quite a lot, such as the friendly cameraderie
of this group for example.  Do you always try to wind people up when
you first meet them?  Is this your standard psychological ploy for getting
people to notice you when you arrive in a new group?  Rather childish
I'd say.  Probably gets you beaten up a lot if you try it in bars...
"hey - you geeks think you can play pool?  What the hell do you know
about pool?  I'm a professional pool player - I'll tell you all about
pool and no mistake!" <thump>.

G
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              16 Apr 1992 17:09:24 CDT from <tushar@ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU>

On Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:09:24 CDT Tushar Samant said:
>
>WHY you are bringing it up over here ?
>
bahut bahut ooops
>
>Use dialect right. Are you forgetting happy days in Bombay ?
>
Mujee ganja kahaa maleegii?  How could we forget?  We would watch
the ships come in and smoke bidhii in tropical lassitude....I can still
smell the sweet aroma of cloves as you made good talk.
>
>PS What is this King Lear yara ? When was he ruling ? Was he telling
>things in drunken and incoherent way ? Don't give me scholar-wolar
>things, dost.
Tushji, man, you always could see through my smoke rings. Jiiha!
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From:         BGRISSOM%UKCC.UKY.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU
Subject:      Smileyship
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The Wall Street Journal had a nifty idea for today's Technology section:
get a dozen heavyweights (including Rita's boss, Mitch Kapor) together on
The Well for a two-week electronic discussion of the risks of computer
technology.  Mr. Kapor leads off by saying

  Risks, what risks?  Computers are here to benefit all
  personkind. :-)

Three days later he feels he has to explain.

  It might be a bit late to be adding this, but I fear there may be some
  residual misunderstanding having been created by my original remark
  way back about 20 responses ago.

  The typographic glyph :-) which I included at the end of my comment is
  the on-line equivalent of an ironic or sarcastic tone of voice.  It is
  intended to convey that the writer really means the opposite of the
  literal meaning of what preceeded [_sic_].

  So, in fact, what I was saying was that there are risks in computers.
  This digital medium of computer conferencing lacks expressiveness.
  I apologize if my use of an insider's jargon to overcome this went by
  some people.

  Actually, this episode reveals a risk, that the medium tends to
  divide society into camps of insiders and outsiders....

Very interesting piece.  Rita, is the full electronic log -- instead of the
edited transcript -- available?

brad

I mean dr. brad
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From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell%PANAM1.PANAM.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Something Meaningful and Profound
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>response to her came in hours ago...this came in sometime between 11:15
>and 11:30 p.m.  Another mystery

I'm not a computer expert but I play one on TV...

another TENET glommer. I'm not on TENET yet, maybe I'll learn why this happens
after I get on.

-abh
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 12:44:53 CDT
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From:         Frank Peters <fwp%CC.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: electronic media
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In article <9204162222.AA12227@zaphod.uchicago.edu> Tushar Samant
 <tushar%ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU> says:
>
>1) How many people in all do computer networks  reach and influence ?

I have heard estimates ranging from 3 to 5 million.  Since most
sites don't seem to keep formal usage statistics of that sort I
don't think it is possible to be more accurate than that.

The interesting aspect is how rapidly it is growing...especially
among people in fields not directly related to computers (poets
and shop keepers and carpenters and the like).

>2) What do desk-top publishing and word-processing have to do with
>   the spread of "language" ?

I assume you have a bulletin board (the physical, rather than
electronic, kind) in front of your post office or student union or
wherever.  Look at it sometime.  I'm fairly young and I can remember a
time when you saw simple, hand written notes on such boards.  Now you
see flashy graphics and neato type. I'd expect some study to show a
difference in the language used between the two.

>My original question was about a statement which said that computer
>networks will have a profound impact on the language (or maybe a bit
>less strong than that.) It sounds like an amazing overestimation to me.

MTV was young once.  I'm sure predictions of its potential influence
on music and film seemed 'amazing overestimations' at the time.  Yet,
if anything, those predictions were underestimations.

I don't know whether networks will have a similar impact on language
and communication.  But it doesn't seem ridiculous to suppose that
it might.

>The Ronin says something about "Populace changing its language structure
>to match what travels on the nets." This, to my mind, is another good
>example of something which passes the internet nerd test.

Perhaps.  Natalie says that people learn their language from those
around them rather than from incoming influences like TV and Radio.

So I guess the question is whether the network is more like TV or
more like a way of talking to friends.

--
Frank Peters  -  UNIX Systems Programmer  -  Mississippi State University
Internet: fwp@CC.MsState.Edu  -  Phone: (601)325-7030  -  FAX: (601)325-8921
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From:         Evelyn Duncan <R3EJD%AKRONVM.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (39)

I used to watch MTV during its first 5 years, but when it got so that
there was one video that I wanted to watch for every 4 that I didn't,
I turned it off.  It seems to me that MTV was more adventurous in its
early days, not stuck in the heavy metal/rap rut it is now.  Now I
watch VH1.

Evelyn
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CALLING ALL STUDENTS OF RUSSIAN

Sayeth        Lobstrosities Unite <CHRISS@CWU.BITNET>

>                           But they both are rare redundancies and would not
> ever apply to words incorporated into English today.

     Be careful how you use 'rare'.  Do you mean 'rare', as in few of
the 600,000 (or whatever number the current 'correct' one) words of
English, or do you mean 'rare', as in seldom used.  Stop and think
about verbs, especially.  There may not be that many irregular verbs
in English, but they make up a lot of the usage within the language.
Consider the conjugations of 'to be' as a starting point.  These are
hold-overs from previous 'editions' of the language that your stated
need for 'ruliness' seems to have overlooked.  They didn't change
because of their wide spread use.  It wasn't economic to make that
drastic a change to the language, so those parts were allowed to
survive over the years.  And it still isn't economic to do that
massive of a change.

The Ronin
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 06:46:51 CDT
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From:         Anne Harwell <aharwell%PANAM1.PANAM.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Reflections on the matter of language change
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>You'll find what it has to say under "slang" most edifying.  BTW, dont be
>such a cantankerous shit.


I think someone just signed up for my tag team. Graham, where are your pants?

-Anne "Hulk" Harwell
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:35:15 CDT
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: Re: Interdead

> Well, I think the Internet link is screwed again.  Consider this a
> test message.

It is.  Or rather it's almost certainly the UGA nameserver, not a link
in the sense of the phone lines.  I've given up on seeing it fixed
until the head guru returns to UGA next Monday.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Subject:      RE: Gleanings (38)

14) Corva Coleman/Korva Koleman (Stu)
    Another female PBS broadcaster (like Susan Stamberg, Nina Totenberg,
etal discussed in recent weeks) -- I do not know the correct spelling of her
name but would never have come up with the second choice Stu presents and I
don't know why.  From her voice I'd say she's black (I've only heard her on
the radio) and would have come up with the first choice Stu presents.
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:52:00 MDT
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From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: HEEEEEEERE'S JOHNNY!

Sayeth        "JOHN WHAT'S-THE-M-FOR? WILLIAMS" <WILLIAMS@MC.BITNET>

> Carpeth the Roninmeister:

> > Stateth       "815 Stephen H. Karlson 753-6980" <TA0SHK1@NIU.BITNET>

> > > Quippeth the Ronin:

> You should feel honored, Ro!  You started something that was subsequently
> picked up by this august and auspicious assembly.  ("And if elected...")

     In the past I have defended my trademark against Adam and
Portigalicity,  so I felt duty bound to attempt to continue
protecting this Roninism.  I figured one of you would ignore my
attacks one of these days, and it has been one of those days.

> Were dangerous dan from potatoland here he'd agree that initiation is the
> sincerest form of philately....

     Are you trying to say he would give it his stamp of approval?

The Ronin
From: gtoal@castle.ed.ac.uk (Graham Toal)
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Subject: Re: asterix
Date: 8 Apr 92 00:57:52 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <01GIJL30BUY8AXDWV5@ACFcluster.NYU.EDU> AXD7104%NYUACF.bitnet@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Aaron Dickey, Jupiter University) writes:
:Actually, I got that bit about having to translate the puns from an article
:that appeared a few months ago in the _Sunday Times of London_.  What they do
:is (laboriously) remove the vast majority of the French puns (very very few of
:them are actually translatable, according to the article), and come up with
:entirely new ones in English that will work in the context of the artwork that
:already exists.  In other words, the "legion" joke probably doesn't exist in
:the French version of that story.
:
:--Aaron


They do it really well - I've read the German, Dutch & French versions -
all very funny but as you say quite different.

G
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE%IDBSU.IDBSU.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: roll call
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              8 Apr 1992 07:40:41 -0400 from <droby@NOVA.TCS.TUFTS.EDU>

On Wed, 8 Apr 1992 07:40:41 -0400 <droby@NOVA.TCS.TUFTS.EDU> said:
>Saith The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>:
>>
>>     Surely you aren't suggesting that pointers be relegated to the heap?
>>

I always use the room marked pointers, but prefer setters, myself.

dan
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From:         Tony Harminc <TONY%VM1.MCGILL.CA@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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On Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:37:00 MDT The Ronin said:

>     My source was a discussion with someone who had read _A Man
>Called Intrepid_.  I went to the campus library to check up on the
>story, and I found that it was neither checked out nor available, a
>common situation with books there.  Maybe someday this campus will get
>a real library.

Sufficient doubts have been raised about much of the "Intrepid" story as
told by Stevenson the author (or is Stephenson the author and Stevenson
the subject?) that I don't think his pronouncements on Enigma are worth
much.  Stevenson also wrote an "instant book" on the raid at Entebbe,
and various others.

Tony H.
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From:         Tushar Samant <tushar%ZAPHOD.UCHICAGO.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: English geeks (was Re: in-jokes and such

Combining Englit and Computer Science is crossing sides of the brain ? How's
that ? What's the difference between THEM ?

tushar
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From:         Rashmi Murthy <rashmi%CBIS.ECE.DREXEL.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
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              at Apr 7, 92 10:29 am

>
>   You've been misled by a particular story. Asterix and Obelix are
> Gauls, and the basic story line is that they live in the one village
> in France that has not been occupied by the Romans (thanks to the
> magical potion brewed by the druid Miraculix).
>
Who's Getafix, then?  Thought that was the druid.  Well, its been
over five years since I read Asterix last ... This mention of the
books makes me want to read one, now.  They did have some priceless
puns.  Anyone have an Asterix book I can borrow?

rashmi
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Subject:      Re: CALLING ALL STUDENTS OF RUSSIAN
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              13 Apr 92 21:35:46 +0000. <9204141249.AA27572@sics.se>

>OK, remind me.  What *was* the Church-Turing thesis about?

  Reminder: Church's thesis, or if you like the Church-Turing thesis,
states that every algorithmically computable function from (say) the
natural numbers to the natural numbers is computable by a Turing
machine, or equivalently - by various arguments that are now routine
but were not so when they were first made by Kleene, Church, Turing -
computable in the lambda calculus, computable by a Markov algorithm,
etc.  Here the concept of "algorithmically computable function", or
if you like "mechanically computable function", is not one that is
formally or mathematically defined, so there can be no proof in the
mathematical sense of Church's thesis. It is never formally necessary
to use Church's thesis in a proof, but Church's thesis is what
supports the interpretation of proofs of recursive undecidability
(i.e. proofs that a certain function is not Turing computable) as
showing that there simply is no algorithm of any kind that solves a
certain class of prpoblems.
From: maynor%RA.MSSTATE.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Natalie Maynor)
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> >Sayeth        "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
> >
> >     I should be around and somewhat polite.
> >
> >> Subject:      Guinea Pigs, Be On Alert
> >
> >     I thought you were trying to warn Lisa of RI about something
> >when I first saw this. :-).
> Oh my!  Those are fighting words.  Jus' 'cause I'm Italian you tink I can't be
> clean.  Well, in that case I'll have my cusin Antony beat the shit outta ya.

I SAID NONE OF THE ABOVE!!
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:55:58 EDT
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From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita%EFF.ORG@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Conversation Stoppers
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              92 6:46 pm

	Yeesh.  I knew I did some cool stuff, but really!  I forgot
to mention that the DC office will also be doing some hiring.  They're
looking for a part-time librarian to come in and get them organized
and will need a new office administrator at the end of the month.
They ain't as cool as us, but they're still EFF :-).


Czarina
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From:         Adam M Hartfield <AHARTFIE%DREW.DREW.EDU@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: TV
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Commenteth The Ronin:
       ^^^
	justified when talking about him

>
>Stateth       Carol Goodson <CGOODSON@UGA.BITNET>
>
>> Ah, wonderful... another pencil hater....what IS it about writing on nice
>> white paper with beautiful black pens... like Faber Castell, my favorite in
>> the "right price range" department....
>
>     A UniBall micro, I hope.  My favorite, also, regardless of price
>range.  Have tried their Onyx line, but the ink smears too easily.
>

My favorite cheapo pen is also the UniBall micro.  I like the blue
best, followed by green, black, and red.   I must admit a fondness
for plain old PaperMate blue medium-point throwaways, and I really
like their fine-point blue Office Products disposable pen.  I detest
regular wooden pencils, but love mechanical pencils.

Someday I hope to get a Watermark;  Mont Blancs don't really thrill
me, as the barrel is too wide.  Now that I type all of my papers, the
only thing I write regularly are notes in class--so when I write a
letter I like to use my nice Cross ballpoint on Crane stationery.

Side note:  How many of us wordslers have terrible penmanship?
Mine's legible, but barely.

...Adam (ahartfie@{drew, drunivac}{.bitnet, .drew.edu})
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: Hello???
Organization: Independent scholar
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:32:10 GMT

Curioser and Curioser -- on my node, I can use either of two newsreading
programs, 'nn' or 'rn'.  I usually prefer nn, but recently I've been
getting messages like 'nnmaster has not updated the databases in <multiple
tens of> hours' -- so I go to rn, and lo and behold, *hundreds* of
postings.

Times like this, I remember I'm still very much a novice around the net,
and likely to remain so.

--bayla
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