Newsgroups: rec.boats.paddle
From: hweingra@.com (Howard Weingram)
Subject: Re: Kayaking vs. Rowing
Reply-To: hweingra@oracle.UUCP (Howard Weingram)
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Belmont, CA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 23:04:44 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

In article <85832@netnews.upenn.edu> rsk@aspen.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec) writes:
>In article <l8eb91INN2ie@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> tut@cairo.Eng.Sun.COM (Bill "Bill" Tuthill) writes:
>>Did anybody save the Olympic standings?  I was wondering if the
>>flatwater K2s and K4s were slower or faster than the rowing sculls.
>>You'd think kayaks would have the advantage because a paddle blade
>>is almost always in the water, plus kayakers face forward and don't
>>have to carry that extra person (the coxswain?).
>>
>>My next-door neighbor rowed crew at Yale, and says they did 1 Km
>>(of course he said 1000 meters) in about 6 minutes.  I saw the K2
>>race on TV, which the Germans won by a huge margin, and it seemed
>>a lot shorter than 6 minutes.
>
>Here are the times:
>
>Canoe/Kayak:
>
>Men's Doubles Canoe 1000 meters 3:37:42
>Men's Doubles Kayak 1000 meters 3:16:10
>Men's Quads Kayak 1000 meters 2:54:18
>Men's Singles Canoe 1000 meters 4:05:92  
>Men's Singles Kayak 1000 meters 3:37:26
>Women's Quads Kayak 500 meters 1:38:32
>Men's Doubles Canoe 500 meters 1:41:54
>Men's Doubles Kayak 500 meters 1:28:27
>Women's Doubles Kayak 500 meters 1:40:29
>Men's Singles Canoe 500 meters 1:51:15
>Women's Singles Kayak 500 meters 1:51:60
>Men's Singles Kayak 500 meters 1:40:34
>
>Rowing:
>
>Men's Eight 2000 meters 5:29.53
>Women's Eight 2000 meters 6:02.62
>Men's coxed Quadruple Scull 2000m 5:59.37
>Women's uncoxed Quadruple Scull 2000m 6:30.85
>Men's uncoxed Quadruple Scull 2000m 5:55.04
>Women's Quadruple Scull 2000m 6:20.18
>Men's Quadruple: 5:45.17
>Men's coxed Double 6:49.83
>Women's uncoxed Double 7:06.22
>Men's uncoxed Double 6:27.72
>Men's Double 6:17.32
>Women's Double 6:49.00
>Men's Single 6:51.40
>Women's Single 7:25.54

UH -- WHAT'S THE DEAL HERE? YOU APPARENTLY HAVE 4'S MIXED
UP WITH QUADS. AND PAIRS WITH DOUBLES. 

THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT 4'S AND PAIRS ARE SWEEP BOATS; EACH ROWER
HAS ONE OAR. THE DOUBLES AND QUADS ARE SCULLING BOATS; EACH ROWER
HAS *TWO* OARS. THERE ARE NO LONGER ANY COXED SCULLING BOATS IN
THE OLYMPICS, SO THERE IS NO COXED/STRAIGHT DESIGNATION.

SCULLING EVENTS ARE DESIGNATED WITH AN 'X' -- 1X,2X,4X.
SWEEP BOATS ARE DESIGNATED WITH A '+' IF THEY ARE COXED
AND A '-' IF THEY ARE UNCOXED ('STRAIGHT').

THe (hey, the shift unfroze!) 

The results should read (and pardon me for abbreviating):

M 8+ 2000 meters 5:29.5
W 8+ 2000m 6:02.62
M 4+ 2000m 5:59.62 "men's 4 with coxswain"
W 4- 2km 6:30.85 "women's 4 without"
M 4- 2km 5:55.04      etc
W 4x 2km 6:20.19
M 4x 2km 5:45.17
M 2+ 2km 6:49.83
W 2- 2km 7:06.22
M 2- 2km 6:27.72
M 2x 2km 6:17.32
W 2x 2km 6:49.00
M 1x 2km 6:51.40
W 1x 2km 7:25.54

you can't just divide by 2 or 4, either; 5-7 minutes is significantly
longer than 1-3.5 minutes. For about 2 minutes, you can go completely
anaerobic. For a 5-7 minute race you are relying for the middle 1000m
on aerobic sources of energy (mostly) and only utilizing anaerobic
sources in the first and last 500m. 

So if a rowing race is 1000m instead of the standard 2000 (The
Lake Merritt Sprints in Oakland and Masters' nationals in Camden,
NJ are examples of 1000m races) your strategy and pacing is very
different from that of a 2000m race.

			hal 
+ 

                  ___o                        Howard Weingram
                  \   \                       ORACLE Network Products
                   \/\ |                      415/506-2885 hweingra@oracle.com
 "5,4,3,2,1 ARE YOU \ READY? (F#CK YES!) ROW!"
Newsgroups: rec.boats.paddle