From: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: china(was more than 50% s
Reply-To: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:10:36 EST

In Article: <C0AIrG.3p6@ulowell.ulowell.edu>
   Subject: China(was More than 50% support TI)
      From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:

>Harvest fluctuation resulted from climate change or war. China had one
>of oldest written language, those famine were recorded. Other parts of
>world , did not have rich and welthy managed land, did not support so
>many population, when bad time came, famine did not hit as much at it
>did in China.

FYI, there are many regions in the world which have less arable land
than China, less natural resources than China and higher population
density than China, yet they did much better than China in the past.

To defend the CG in your way can only prolong the CCP enforced ignorence
endured by Chinese in the recent history. It is not helping Chinese
neither China.


>>   People(Westeners, and their Chinese-converts) tend to demean
>>China's ancient violence, or diseas, or famine.

To follow your logic, since you are defending the CCP, you must be
working for the CCP... This that make sense? Old habit is so difficult
to change eh?  :-)

Then let's talk about recent violence such as 6.4 Massacre, such as the
death by starvation of more than 20 million Chinese from 1958-1961,
in 1991, without the generous donation from HongKong and Taiwan, without
the international pressure to put those corrupted CCP cadres into close
scrutiny, a serious famine was dangerously close to become reality for
those millions of Chinese flood victims!

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>  It was a bless in ancient times that Chinese can be killed by War
>during short period of chaos comparing other parts of the world, where
>most people could not live long enough to join the battle.

Would you like to be *blessed* by your own definition of "good fortune" ?
:-)

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>According to West, 1 million people got killed by Khmer Rouge, during
>period of 1975-1978. At the time it has total populatin of 5 million,
>means 20% got killed. I wonder why still so many Canbodians in rural
>still support Khmer Rouge (according to West media). Is it anyother case
>of West propaganda or at least exaggeration?

Lets take a look the words from the Foreign Minister of Khmer Rouge:

(following copied from the Guinness Multimedia Disc of Records without
 permission.)

Cambodia
As a percentage of a nation's total population the worst genocide
appears to have been that in Cambodia (formerly Kampuchea).

According to the *Khmer Rouge Foreign Minister, Teng Sary*,
more than a third of the 8 million Khmers were killed between 17 April
1975 and January 1979.

The highest 'class' ideals induced indifference to individual suffering
to the point of serving as a warrant for massacre. Under the rule of
Saloth Sar, alias Pol Pot, a founding member of the CPK (Communist Party
of Kampuchea, formed in September 1960), towns, money and property were
abolished and economical execution by bayonet and club introduced for
such offenses as falling asleep during the day, asking too many
questions, playing noncommunist music, being old and feeble, being the
offspring of an 'undesirable' or being too well educated. Deaths at the
Tuol Sleng interrogation center reached 582 in a day.
end of quote....
(Copyright (c) 1992 by Compton's NewMedia)

Your words of:
"According to West, 1 million people got killed by Khmer Rouge, during
period of 1975-1978. At the time it has total populatin of 5 million,"

You are twisting the fact by more than 1 million lives, your mention of
the total population of 5 million is the surviving population after the
number of the murdered been deducted.

>U.S. kill one million Vietnamese during the War, Used brutal method like
>the one in Phenixe Project: CIA extablished South Vietnamese
>organization, their method was simple behead teh captured, took the
>heads to get payed in dollar for superior. Most of those got killed were
>not viet com, just ordinary people.
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Maybe you would like to explain, after the North Vietnamese wan the war
and liberated the South Vietnam, why all those tens of thousands of
"liberated" ordinary Vietnames, risked their lives to the high seas
and the cruel pillages the pirates, to escape Vietnam and seek home in
the free world?

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