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From: lienhart@fc.hp.com (Bob Lienhart)
Subject: Re: rlpdaemon
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:01:27 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

You cannot send the duplex option from a Berkeley-based spooler.
The BSD spooler has no concept of "user defined/modified options".
The BSD spooler only understands file types and there is no file
type for formatted-ASCII-with-Duplex.

There are things that you can do which may or not be appropriate
for your environment:

	You can set the printer to default to duplex operation by
	modifying the interface script for that printer (/usr/spool/
	lp/interface/<pritnername>).  The modification would be to 
	change the initialization of duplex from "" to "yes":
		duplex="" -> duplex="yes"

The problem with this is that there is no way to specify single-sided
output to override the new default.  To overcome this:

	You can define a single-sided option, say -os or -osingle.
	By editing the same interface script, and adding to the
	option-parsing case statement the two lines marked with "**"
	following the duplex option parsing:

        -d | d | -double | double)    # set up for automatic double sided copy
                duplex="yes";;
**      -s | s | -single | single)    # set up for automatic single sided copy
**              duplex="";;
	(Do not include the "**")

There are two problems with this, 1) The Berkeley system will only be able
to print double sided from now on and 2) HP-UX users will have to manually
specify single-sided (-os) when they want single-sided output.

As you can tell from this you cannot really have it both ways.

I hope this helps,

Bob Lienhart

From: ohdav@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (David OH)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:23:13 GMT
Subject: Re: X11perf results for HP 700 series needed
Organization: HP Singapore Notes-Server
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

>In comp.sys.hp, hblim@iti.gov.sg (Hock-Beng Lim) writes:
>
>
>    Hi !
>
>    I would like to have the full set of results of the x11perf (ver 1.3) 
>    benchmarks for the HP 700 series workstations (any of Models 720/730/etc).
>    If you have it, I'll be very grateful if you could send it to me by email.
>

You may want to get in touch with the local HP sales rep. I believe those
performance data should be available in print.

Yew Siang (HP Singapore PSO)

:-)My responses does not necessarily reflect HP's opinion.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: okuyama@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Darin Okuyama YR)
Subject: Problems with 'named'
Summary: named does not work on my 9000/730
Keywords: named gated network TCP/IP problem trouble red alert
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:44:06 GMT

I have an HP 9000/730 and I am running HP-UX 8.07.  I have
'named' installed but it doesn't work to well, here are
the symptoms:

  -- only the 'root' seems to be served by 'named',
     most things don't work for normal users (ftp,
     telnet, nslookup, etc.).  Here is the output
     from an 'nslookup' session:

*** Can't find address for server daxam: Non-existent domain
*** Warning - the local domain is not set.
*** Either hostname should be a domain name,
*** the domain should be specified in /etc/resolv.conf,
*** or the shell variable LOCALDOMAIN should be set.

  -- 'hostname' is returning a non-fully-qualified IP
     name.
  -- nobody (not even the root) can get the name server
     to resolve address outside the domain (arc.nasa.gov).

How do I fix this?

Darin Okuyama
NASA Ames Research Center

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rn_reader@mcil.comm.mot.com (Nathan Slonim)
Subject: Telnet to IBM (Knet ) from HP/UX 8.00 on a series 400 (correction)
Organization: Motorola Communications Israel Ltd., Tel Aviv
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 01:07:17 GMT
Keywords: knet telnet ibm

Dear netters,
We are having a problem using telnet to IBM from an HP 400
running HP/UX 8.00.  The IBM is running KNET 3.1 via a 
K200.

In insert mode misc. characters appear on the screen.  Setting
echo to off seems to stop the characters but we do not know
how to change the default echo value.

The problem did not exist with HP/UX 7.05 on 400 series. 

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Motorola Communications Israel       FAX:972 3 565 8778
UNIX Systems Administration          Internet: nathan@mcil.comm.mot.com


Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Subject: Re: Drift time for HP 720 clock ?
Followup-To: comp.protocols.time.ntp
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 01:41:02 GMT

hardy@golem.ps.uci.edu (Meinhard E. Mayer (Hardy)) writes:
: Why don't you use xntp to keep your clocks in check?
: --
: Hardy 
: -----

In article <Bz9JKC.3vC@iem.com> larry@iem.com (Larry Fenske) writes:
>How can I get xntp?

  It is available by anonymous ftp from louie.udel.edu which is the
offiical xntp3 archive site.

  NB: the version kept on iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu is NOT kept current
with the version on louie.

  The version on louie will compile/run absolutely fine on an HP if
you follow the supplied instructions for building it on an HP
platform.  The normal xtnp3 developer group includes an HP employee
who keeps the HPUX support up to date on his own time out of his own
goodwill (i.e. he's doing it because he is A Good Guy and not
officially as an HP employee).  As a result, the xntp3 on louie never
needs any porting work to get it installed/running on your HPUX
machine.

Followups belong in: comp.protocols.time.ntp


Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: holger@spider.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Holger Busse)
Subject: bus error problems, how to solve?
Organization: Free University of Berlin, Germany
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:09:44 GMT

Hello HPNetters,
does anybody have some information how to search for the origin of
bus errors, that occur when executing programs.

Thanx for help

Holger Busse

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: Need Ftp site for popper 1.8 work with HP/UX 8.07
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:35:56 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.191559.8954@truevision.com> Scott Stevens <scott@truevision.com> writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.162428.10791@hp9000.csc.cuhk.hk> Y. S. Lo,
>augustine-lo@cuhk.hk writes:
>>Hi, does anyone port the latest pop server (popper 1.8?) on HP/UX 8.07?
>>Is there any ftp site I could get this from?
>
>If you get an answer to this, I'd be interested in it too.

I have popper 1.831beta running on our 7x0 at 8.07; I think I put it
on the iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu node, but I will try to make sure before I
go for the holidays. The standard code needed only minor changes as I
recall (missing routines mainly, which you can get from my Porting
Tricks monthly posting). It works fine with Mac Eudora, allowing our
users to avoid UNIX mail completely; I gather a version for the PC is
in works.
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 *******   As usual, I speak only for me, myself and I; nobody else   *******
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From: chuck@edsi.plexus.COM (Chuck Tomasi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: When will HP supply PATCHES before they are Required?
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:51:03 GMT
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

franks@hpuamsa.neth.hp.com (Frank Slootweg CRC) writes:

:)  No offense, but "A situation like this exists with HP" followed by "I
:)forget the precise symptoms", is a little too thin for me and not fair
:)against HP (to put it mildly).

I'll give you a precise symptom and you tell me...

I have a tape drive on a 9000/375 which does backups every night.  I use
fbackup (with the PHCO_1130 patch from Feb 92) to backup various nodes
out on the net.  The directories to be backed up are NFS mounted to the
machine with the drive such that I first cd /nfs then backup the
directories accordingly using fbackup and a graph file.

In the graph file there are several directories listed.  No matter what
order the directories are in, they get alphabetically sorted prior to
being written to tape.  In our case we have over 225,000 files to be
backed up on seven systems.  After sorting, if your first directory
happens to be remote (note that some of the files to be backed up are
local as well) that entire directory/system will be skipped.

An example of the graph file.

charlie/users
charlie/design
delta/parts
adam/users
baker/libs

Where charlie:/users is NFS mounted to /nfs/charlie/users, and so on.
We'll say "baker" is our local machine with the device.

Yes, I have patched the kernels on the remote systems to avoid the
root-security problem.

In this case the directories are scanned by fbackup, then sorted
alphabetically.  "adam" will not be backed up!  I was missing over
50,000 files for nearly six months.  HP knew about the problem, did not
tell me, and is not going to fix it for HP-UX 8.0, however they did say
it was going to be fixed in 8.0.  There are two workarounds.  Either
backup a dir in /nfs called something "less than" adam or backup a local
directory first (this always works.)  I did both and created a real
directory "something like /nfs/aaa" and backed it up.  Now adam gets
backed up.  As long as it isn't the first remote machine to be done it
will work.

I'm slightly outraged, but only because I didn't get burned.  If I
hadn't found this problem three weeks ago I don't think I would have a
job as of yesterday.  Someone lost something off my "adam" machine and
fortuntately I have a few weeks of data backed up, but had I not been
evaluating other backup software I might not have found it at all.
-- 
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chuck@edsi.plexus.COM    |   They just branch to a new address
MiSTie #2356             |   
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From: stockel@taupo.oc.nps.navy.mil (Jim Stockel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: test
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:23:57 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School,Monterey CA


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From: jaenicke@emserver.ee.tu-berlin.de (Lutz Jaenicke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: HP VUE doesn't come up && named problems
Date: 15 Dec 1992 17:25:38 GMT
Organization: TU-Berlin, Institut fuer Elektrische Maschinen
NNTP-Posting-Host: emws1.ee.tu-berlin.de
Keywords: HP VUE configuration problem trouble

In article <1992Dec15.160714.3942@news.arc.nasa.gov> okuyama@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Darin Okuyama YR) writes:
>I have an HP9000/730 running HP-UX 8.07.  I also
>have instant ignition.  HP VUE worked the first
>time I brought up the machine, but subsequent
>reboots have been less successful.  It seems the
>OS is trying to start VUE but it fails, and after
>a while it gives up and I get the non-window
>environment.  For some reason the "root" user
>has a little more success than normal users but
>far from regular success.  I have gone through
>the "HP VUE Configuration Guide", and made the
>appropriate modifications to inittab but that
>doesn't fix the problem.

X (used by Vue) relies heavily on hostname resolution. If the 
hostname isn't resolved properly to an IP address and vice versa,
your machine will give you no end of trouble.

To set up the resolution properly, set up a file named "/etc/resolv.conf":
#
# resolv.conf fuer HP-UX Workstations
# Institut fuer Elektrische Maschinen
#
domain ee.tu-berlin.de
nameserver 130.149.50.135	# emserver.ee.tu-berlin.de (secondary, local subnet)
nameserver 130.149.4.10		# mailgzrz.tu-berlin.de (univ's primary)
nameserver 130.149.2.12		# wncs.zrz.tu-berlin.de

Since the information isn't secret, make it world readable (don't know
if it works when restricted, who cares). Set your hostname without
domain (for my local desktop "emws1"). The machine should start working
without problems immediatly, supposed it is listed in the official nameservers
databases (if not, have your net admin perform thist task IMMEDIATLY).

I hope I haven't forgotten anything, feel free to contact me with personal
mail.

	Lutz

PS. Since this question arises once per month, I decided to post rather
than mail.
-- 
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Institut fuer Elektrische Maschinen	jaenicke@emapollo.ee.tu-berlin.de
Technische Universitaet Berlin		Tel. (004930)314-24552
Einsteinufer 11, D-1000 Berlin 10 	Fax. (004930)314-21133 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: dsiebert@icaen.uiowa.edu (Doug Siebert)
Subject: HP-UX 8.07 bug causes crash (& related info on SO_LINGER)
Organization: Iowa Computer Aided Engineering Network, University of Iowa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:34:12 GMT


This may be a known problem....if not, could others confirm it so that it can
hopefully be corrected (and perhaps someone using 9.0 can check if this can
occur under that rev as well)

The problem occurred when I used the SO_LINGER option of setsockopt and set
the linger time to a positive value (9 in this case)  I had a few processes
later become stuck while attempting to close the socket, and attached 'xdb'
to them.  That worked fine, but when I attempted a traceback of the process
(this was as root, I don't know if this occurs as a normal user) using 'T'
the machine (an HP 9000/710) crashed and rebooted itself.  This happened twice
since I didn't make the connection the first time, because the power to the
system isn't 100% reliable, and silly fools are storing boxes of paper inches
from its power cord.

I don't know if this had something to do with the SO_LINGER option, or just
the fact the process was stuck in kernel code when I attached to it.  For
obvious reasons I haven't tested this in depth -- this system receives a lot
of use and I can't go randomly crashing it to test my assertions.  Obviously
the workaround I've found to this problem is "don't do a traceback on a
running process stuck in kernel code" :-)


[BTW, this is unrelated, but SO_LINGER doesn't work as the man pages claim it
does (but then neither does the BSD networking code on which HP-UX's is based)
Setting SO_LINGER with any non-zero linger time causes the process to get
stuck indefinitely (I know, I've had 3 of these on my system for the past few
days) but setting it to 0 does cause the proper behavior of closing the socket
immediately even with bytes in the send queue, keeping all sockets that are
"CLOSING" or "CLOSED" from your netstat list, freeing up the buffers they
would otherwise be wasting.]
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: kbhartle@dal.mobil.com (K. B. Hartley [Kevin])
Subject: X11r5 MIT clients provided under HP-UX 8.07/9.0
Followup-To: kbhartle@dal.mobil.com
Keywords: MIT, clients, 9.0
Organization: Mobil Exploration & Producing Technical Center(MEPTEC), Dallas. 
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:37:55 GMT

I have seen a few other msgs on this so I'll add mine too.

I have a pre-release version of 9.0 on a 720.  The production version will have some differences but I doubt the MIT clients will change.

The O'Reilly X Window System Admin book mentions the MIT clients fsinfo, fslsfonts, and fstobdf.  Those aren't in 9.0.  How do we troubleshoot fs without them?

bitmap and xdpyinfo are in 9.0 but are found under /usr/contrib/bin/X11; these are found in the O'Reilly X11r4 User Guide and also in export.lcs.mit.edu under a clients and not a contrib area, so should they be under /usr/bin/X11 instead?

This inconsistency in the paths as compared to standard practice makes system admin difficult in a heterogeneous environment.

Some r4 clients missing are xkill, appres, editres, listres, and xedit.  These were also in the export.lcs.mit.edu clients area and not contrib, and so I suppose	they are part of the actual MIT distribution and not contrib.

To be fair, I notice AIX 3.2 is missing some of these too, and Sun also I presume (haven't inventoried).

The question is not where to find these pieces via anon ftp or whatever but why not have a complete and standard MIT setup on each vendor's systems.  If a major company has to try compiling and distributing these things for each operating system version things get expensive and complicated in a hurry.
From: gene@coral.bear.com (Gene Cohler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: interface script for HP LJ4M
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:24:52 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

hpux 8.07 (hopefully soon to be 9.0) on 7xxx boxes.

Does anyone have something nice for /usr/spool/lp/model that
handles LJ4M ?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: a722756@roper.mc.ti.com (W. Donald Rolph)
Subject: ANSI X3.64 emulation form HP 9000/730
Originator: a722756@roper.mc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments / Attleboro Mass / USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:26:09 GMT


I have been working at getting fully ANSI X3.64 (VT100) emulation out of my HP
9000/730.  I need to cross work with suns, VMS, r/s6000, DECStations etc, and
they are expecting a full keypad implememtnation.  I have found that the
following seems to do the trick.  Comments/critiques etc appreciated!


Subject: hp 9000/7xx compatibiliyt with ansi x3.64 (vt100) environment
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 12:11:28 EST
From: a722756@pan.mc.ti.com

I have been working to get our HP 9000s compatible with the ANSI X3.64
(VT100) environment.  The HPterm wont work,  and the default 46021A
keyboard is not very usable.  I have found the following provides near
perfect emulation:
 
     1)  Order the C1429A (PS/2 style) keyboard
     2)  Install the xterm application from X11R5
            (the R4 xterm wont pass the escape sequences properly)
     3)  You will now need to map the keyboard correctly, I use the following
           shell script:
 
xmodmap -e "keysym System = KP_F1"
xmodmap -e "keysym KP_Divide = KP_F2"
xmodmap -e "keysym KP_Multiply = KP_F3"
xmodmap -e "keysym KP_Subtract = KP_F4"
xmodmap -e "keysym KP_Add = KP_Subtract KP_Separator"
xmodmap -e "keysym DeleteChar = Delete"

which should probably be added to the sys.x11startup script.

NOte that the DEC delete key will be the delete key among the 6 page
operators to the right of the main keyboard.  The backspace key still
sends backspace.  We could probably map <shft> backspace to delete if people prefer.
 
Regards.
 
Don Rolph a722756@pan.mc.ti.com WD3 MS10-13 (508)-699-1263

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Regards.
 
Don Rolph  a722756@pan.mc.ti.com WD3 MS10-13 (508)-699-1263
From: xm9@sdcc12.ucsd.edu (richard g. adair)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: clusters
Summary: Clusters
Keywords: cluster
Date: 18 Dec 92 06:09:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <BzFsCM.H5u@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> werner@dirac.physics.uq.oz.au writes:
>We are investigating buying several HP7?? snakes and have heard about
>something called a cluster environment for HP workstations.
>Has anybody used this system , what is the implementation (i.e RPC calls?),
>what are the capabilities, what are the management problems, what are the
>limitations, do all the machines have to be identical?

Clusters work great under HP-UX.  The machines don't have to be
identical, but using the same series is best.  You should set up
your computers with a small local swap disk (although net swapping
works ;-).  The HPs also support local file systems.  The actual
method is HP proprietary, but it works just the same.  Very
reliable.  I just wish that the 700s would loop retry start-up after a
crash.  After a short time out, reboot quits and you have to hike to
the console to restart the client-boot selection process...
Essentially you save about 100MB disk per machine, since a single
copy of the OS is shared between the cluster members.

Of course, if the server crashes, everything crashes! :-)

Tony Burzio
Arete Associates
San Diego, CA
From: mandell@bach.helios.nd.edu (Dan Mandell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: standard error redirect
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:01:08 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

We would like to clean up a junk
directory and this is a daily chore.  I'm trying syntax like the following in
some preliminary tests, and finding that it doesn't work.  If I can get it
working I'll enter it in cronfile.

       rm -f /usr/junk/* 2> /dev/null

What am I doing wrong?

Dan Mandell (mandell@bach.helios.nd.edu)
Saint Mary's College, Computer Services 
Notre Dame, Indiana 46556  -  Phone: (219) 284-4610
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: achter@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Sven Achter)
Subject: problems with setjmp(3C),longjmp(3C)
Originator: achter@hpschlichter8.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 13:15:23 GMT


Hi,

I'm trying to port a distributed system to a HP9000/710 running
HP-UX 8.07. This system uses setjmp and longjmp for task switching.
I need to access stackpointer and framepointer through the jmp_buf
structure but nowhere in the HP documentation and also not in
/usr/include/setjmp.h there is information on the position in 
jmp_buf where the contents of the dumped registers are stored.

In the porting notes of the system is also read: 
"It is not possible to use setjmp or longjmp on some systems
 either because they contain bugs and fail to restore state
 properly, or because they check that longjmp only returns to
 a previously encountered stack frame, i.e setjmp was previously
 executed on the current stack."

So my questions are:
- What registers are stored in what order in jmp_buf ?
- Do the HP-UX 8.07 implemetations of setjmp and longjmp conform
  to the mentioned criteria?
  - If not how would assembly routines look like that could be 
    used instead ?

Thanks in advance

Sven Achter

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: justin@nx30.mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan)
Subject: Problem with ill-behaved disks
Keywords: corrupted fsck
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Path: nx30.mik.uky.edu!justin
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:15:28 GMT

Why, in heaven's name, are my two disks not as they should be?
After a major crash last week, I booted from CD-ROM and rebuilt both
disks (1.5GB each, / and /users) through the install program that pops up
when you boot from the HP-UX Install CD-ROM. I did run mediainit on both
disks and it didn't show ANY problems with either disk..

Reinstalled the system, restored the /users backup tape, and everything
works fine - or so it would seem. When I run fsck on the root disk,
it gives problems. fsck -p gives all kinds of problems and ends with
a REBOOT IMMEDIATELY-type message (reboot -n), which I've done a few times
now, but the problems don't go away. fsck and fsck -p on the /users disk
brings up minor problems, but there shouldn't be any.

How can I fix this PERMANENTLY? Nothing is damaged and everything seems
to be in perfect working order (system/software-wise), but this is starting
to worry me..