HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rlm7337@tamsun.tamu.edu (Richard L. Mcmahon)
Subject: Re: And in this corner...uh, where's the corner?
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 00:53:11 GMT

In article <1992Sep22.064835.10928@nntp.uoregon.edu> JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason)) writes:
>In article <1992Sep21.171144.16726@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, aaron@helios
>(Aaron Humphrey) writes:
>> 
>> Richard L. Mcmahon (rlm7337@tamsun.tamu.edu) wrote:
>> : Once again the rear wall of Callahan's disappears to permit the entrance
>> : of the man known as John Carney...
>> : Here ya' go, folks!
>> : 
>> : Birth Date: September 27, 1972
>> 
>> "Is it just me, or have other people noticed this tendency of people to appear,
>> or lurkers to reappear, a few days before their birthday?  I really don't think
>> this is coincidence.  We could probably plot a graph..."
>> 
>> --
>> ---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)
>
(appologies to Jason...I missed the first post)
I don't know about the norm around here, but I didn't show up for my b-day...
this is co-inky-dink...I wasn't even going to post the bio til I saw others do
it.

John Carney (Incarnadine)
Castle BBS
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: aaron@loki (Aaron Humphrey)
Subject: Re: schools re: Old Coots Test
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:02:05 GMT

JIM PIERCE (JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU) wrote:
: 
:    Well, I have attended schools: Elementary was 1-6, junior high was
: 7-9 { with a graduation from 9th }, and 10-12 was high school. There
: was one school I went to that elementary was 1-7, jr. was 8 and 9th,
: and 10-12 was high school.

"With me, in Alberta, it was 1-6, 7-9, and 10-12 too.  We did have some
grade 9 classes at the high school, and some K-8 schools, but by and large that
was the pattern.

"One time I was talking to some American kids(from Arizona and California area,
I believe).  I was 12 at the time, and had just finished grade 9.  This
impressed them, also being 12 but only being in grade 7.  One of them said,
'Gee, you're already a freshman?'

"This was the first time I'd heard of the freshman/sophomore/junior/senior
pattern applied to high school, since it had always been a 3-year thing where I
lived.  And nobody up here refers to them as freshmen etc. until university,
and even then not much."

--
---Alfvaen(Canadian SF Quasi-Activist)
"And when the thunder breaks, it breaks for you and me."
   ---This Mortal Coil
Current Album--Michael Breen
Current Read--Damon Runyon:The Bloodhounds of Broadway
From: regan1016@bestsd.sdsu.edu (T. ELIZABETH HARVEY)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Holding on to the light
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:32:00 GMT
Organization: San Diego State University - Dept. of Redundancy Dept.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <BvD7ss.HJ3@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinsk writes...
>susan:
> 
>>>>
>>>>I am sorry if the following post is not completely coherent.  I am 
>>>>trying to put many conflicting feelings into words.
>>>>
>>>>   [deleted]
>>>>
>>>>I try to hang on to the light, but I feel the darkness closing in and
>>>>I am just so tired. 
>aahz has a WONDERFUL idea...
> 
>>>Group hug!  Group hug!
>>>-- 
> 
>>The Didi-Sprite looks up and calls out:  "Count me in!"
> 
> 

Elizabeth walks in and sees the group hug commencing.  She pauses, unsure 
of whether to leave or to join in ..

She hears a voice, 'You must.'
She counters, 'But I don't know her ... she may not want me to ...'
The voice counters back, 'No matter.  You cannot ignore the pain of others. 
 So many have reached out to help ease your pain.  You must do the same for 
others, consistently.  Fear of rejection can no longer be a factor.'

>kitten quits drooling at grant and joins the group hug!

Elizabeth quietly walks over to Susan, Aahz, the Didi-Sprite, and kitten, 
and gives them all a warm, yet somewhat shy, hug.

She takes Susan's hand gently.
"I can sympathize with the darkness you face ... many of us face our own 
brand of darkness.  But I do not claim to know your darkness, or know how 
to vanquish it.
 One of my own personal mottoes, which I have learned to live by is, 
'embrace the darkness'.  Acknowledge it, stare at it, display it proudly.  
But take it as your own so that you know that you can gain control and find 
the light.
 And don't hesitate to draw strength from your friends ... let them hold 
you up for a little while, even, until you can hold on and receive the 
light."
"I'm not saying this is exactly what you should do.  We all have our own 
paths.  But you seem strong ... a fighter.  I don't think you'd regret 
keeping up the fight .."

Elizabeth turns and walks to the door, heading for the sunlight, wears she 
continues to contemplate recent events ..

---<--<-{@ | "I believe that before all else, I am a reasonable human being,
Elizabeth  | just as you are -- or, at all events, that I must try and 
	   | become one." _A Doll's House_, Henrik Ibsen
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: c188-cr@po.berkeley.edu (Huggie Bear)
Subject: Re: Holding on to the light
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:02:17 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.114914.1326@bmerh85.bnr.ca> sjane@bmers248.bnr.ca (sjs) writes:
>In article <OLSON.92Sep29224952@husc8.harvard.edu> olson@husc8.harvard.edu (Chip Olson@somewhere.out.there) writes:
>>In article <BvD7ss.HJ3@news.cso.uiuc.edu> trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski) writes:
>>
>>>susan:
>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I am sorry if the following post is not completely coherent.  I am 
>>>>>>trying to put many conflicting feelings into words.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>   [deleted]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I try to hang on to the light, but I feel the darkness closing in and
>>>>>>I am just so tired.
>>>
>>>aahz has a WONDERFUL idea...
>>>
>>>>>Group hug!  Group hug!
>>>>>-- 
>>>
>>>>The Didi-Sprite looks up and calls out:  "Count me in!"
>>>
>>>
>>>kitten quits drooling at grant and joins the group hug!
>>
>>Castellan wasn't drooling at Grant, but he joins the group hug anyway.
>>
>Me too!
>--
>It's not irrelevant; it's a hippopotamus.   sjane@BNR.CA

Kitten or Didi-Sprite taught me this...

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C
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	Life is what happens to you when you're busy making other plans.
							- John Lennon

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: Old Coots Test (was A grinning Nightstalker)
Organization: Murdoch University
Date:  2 Oct 92 06:56:13 GMT

dgil@IPSAINT.IPSA.REUTER.COM (Gillett, David) writes:

>     As has been reported, the structure of school grades has varied widely,
>by both place and time.
>     So, it seems to me that the best construction we can put on the original
>question is something like:  Do you remember when there were -- wherever you
>grew up -- only Primary (variously called Elementary or Public) Schools and
>Secondary (or High) Schools?  Anybody who attended "Junior High", or "Senior
>Elementary", or some analogous system, must probably answer "No."
>     Naturally, this unfairly favours those whose local Boards of Education
>where backwards about such matters.

>                                      Mentor the Sage

Heh-heh!  Despite all the posts I sent talking about different systems, my kids
are currently going through exactly such a system: Grades 1-7 at primary
(elementary), and Grades 8-12 at secondary (high).  _Within_ the high school
system they have arbitrarily split it into junior and senior high, but it's all
the same school.

Splash!

--
***************************** Michael van Keulen *************************** 
* Snail: School of BES - Biology         e-mail: keulen@murdoch.edu.au     *
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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer)
Subject: Re: colorfully descriptive phrases
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 22:50:54 GMT

In article <BvEE15.3E8@agora.rain.com> feath@agora.rain.com (Feather) writes:
>Feather flutters to a nearby table and orders a small slice of pizza.  When
>it arrives, she starts in on it.  Unfortunately, while in mid-bite, she
>thinks about the phrase "three fries short of a Happy Meal" as posted by
>a fellow Callahaner, and proceeds to almost choke on her food from laughing
>so hard...
>
>Gasping and grinning, the small avain recovers.  "I'm all right,  I'm all
>right, don't worry!"  Then inspiriation strikes.  Feather remotely grabs a
>piece of chalk and pauses to speak before writing:
>
>"Hey you guys, how many others can come up with colorfully descriptive
>phrases like that?  Let me start off by writing that Happy Meal phrase
>here on the chalkboard..."
>
>She does so.
>
>"...and then add my own."
>
>And then proceeds to write:
>-  As welcome as a hyperactive puppy at a housecat convention.

    And I'll add. . .
>-  Playing bridge with a euchre deck
>-  "That glimmer of intelligence is actually the spark of a short circuit"
>-  "If he had half a brain, he'd be dangerous.  Come to think of it, he's VERY
>dangerous. . . -
>-
>
>-Feather
>"...just a small gray bird of an unknown specie."
>

                                                       John
-- 
"Love is cool; I mean, like, really cool.  Like, the coolest thing in
the universe, where, like, people open up inside and show the world how
they feel, and they ain't afraid someone's gonna laugh because they, like,
love themselves already!"  --Personality 42, a generic 60's philosopher 
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jay Brandt (Jason))
Subject: Dragon's Inn?
Organization: The Polyhedron Group
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 06:35:39 GMT

Just a quick question. Several of you have mentioned visiting the Dragon's
Inn (alt.dragons-inn). I checked it out, posted a brief hello there, and
all I found was an empty newsgroup and two lurkers who replied by e-mail.
They were as much in the dark about the place as I am. Can someone please
explain that place, and why it appears to be inactive?

I invited the two lurkers to come here. It's much more fun than an empty
room.

Jason
From: seawasp@vm2.cis.pitt.edu (Sea Wasp)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Yet Another Periodic Return...
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:01:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: seawasp@pmax1.cis.pitt.edu

In article <1abqaaINNgaq@gap.caltech.edu> lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>In article <29SEP199221194711@cl2.cl.uh.edu>, byers@cl2.cl.uh.edu (Unbeliever) writes:
>>Unbeliever starts to shake violently, like a rabbit staring into the eyes of
>>a Doberman Pincher.

>StM points out that that that SHOULD be "pinscher."


	Well, it is possible that he has a strange fetish, StM, but 
you're probably right.

	Welcome back, Unbeliever!

  StM is also, at this
>point, shaking violently.  His serum glucose level is 63 mg/dL.  For a
>description of what this means, either ask Kitten or wait for part 3 of StM's
>series titled "The Razor's Edge."

	I will, but I'll also note that judging from the remainder of your
post, StM, it means that you are sick, cranky, and possibly reduced in
your judgement of what to commit to the net's unforgiving public display
system.

>>the first time in 6 years, I had no access to Usenet.  My accounts had expired.
>>My white gold ring no longer sufficed to get me to Callahan's!"
>
>StM is *DISGUSTED* by the Covenent series, but figures everyone ought to have
>his change, no matter how disgustin his presentatin might be.

	[Delete remainder of post, mostly a somewhat disjointed and rather
insulting ad-personaiem (against the persona) attack, very uncharacteristic
of Speaker-to-Minerals, who seems to have noticed none of the humor and
lost all sense of perspective]

	StM, I'm going to assume this vitriol stems from your present 
health difficulties; I have heard that certain conditions that a diabetic
can undergo can have nasty effects on the mind. But remember, PWI (Posting
While Impaired) is a bad idea.

	Laying into a person because of their chosen persona is not only
silly, it's insulting. Judging what the REAL LIFE person is by the Persona
they adopt... that's stupid. If I posted here under some of my other
personas, you'd  see an entirely different person.

	This particular attack of yours also touches me on a personal
level, since not only do I find the Covenant series to be one of my very
favorite sequences, but I have also been known as Ur-Lord Thomas Covenant,
Ringthane and White Gold Wielder, Unbeliever and Savior of the Land. I
used that handle for four years straight. But I wouldn't want people to
think of me as BEING Thomas Covenant. I'm utterly different from him.
And to judge me on the basis of a handle... well, I guess  it's a good
thing my handle isn't Sauron, eh?

                                 Sea Wasp
                                   /^\
                                   ;;;
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Reminicing about alt.callahans past
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 20:46:20 GMT

about callahan memories...

>and, the RL(tm) contacts i have made to go along with the friends and
>love i find in callahans...i have talked to didi and nick and yue-shun
>and SEA and others on the telephone...i have met MANY callahanians in
>RL(tm) at kateri's infamous parties....and THE gave me a birthday
>party in RL...i have tasted john palmer's chili (eaten it for
>breakfast, in fact.  and made friends with nick chopper's little
>girl...and been RL hugged by archteryx...met up with the lucky bitch
>and eion and meta and others at world con..."

forgot to mention lamplighter and aurora's wedding....a truly great
experience.. 

we ARE family!



--
***************************************************************************
conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"perhaps _any_ universe becomes real in proportion 
to the number of people who believe in it and spend time there." s. robinson

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu (Jimmy Malcolm Pierce)
Subject: Re: More old coots tests
Organization: University of Southern Mississippi
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:44:57 GMT

In article <8414.11128@stratus.SWDC.Stratus.COM> jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman) writes:
>Jilara looks nostalgic.  "Ah yes, Bob Clampett.  That man had
>a wicked sense of humor that I only really began to appreciate
>when I watched some of his stuff as an adult.  Rather the way
>you can't full appreciate Rocky and Bullwinkle when you're a
>kid, either.  (Who remember's Jay Ward's first show, "Crusader
>Rabbit?")

     "Yes, I remember 'Crusader Rabbit !" DJ.



-- 
 Jim Pierce Bach. of Sci. in Applied Computer Science
 jmpierce@whale.st.usm.edu  Disclaimer: Standard.
  "Gad, I dislike beta-testing, it makes me fell all irky inside." me :-)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
Subject: Re: Cultural Exchange (was Re: Schooling)
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:42:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.062507.3135@ucc.su.OZ.AU> mar@physics.su.OZ.AU (David Mar) writes:
>>[The Bellman:] From what I have seen of gridiron (which is not much)
>>Australian [rugby] players could run you off your feet, assuming that we
>>could pass the ball backwards as often as we liked.

Hmmm... thing is that there *is* the penalty of possibly turning the ball
over if any of the backwards passes are missed, i.e. if the ball is
dropped, the other team could pick it up and go the other way with it.
And the simple fact that a tackle *ends* any play might mess with a rugby
player's style.

I don't think that rugby players could beat uhm... 'gridiron' players at
their own game.  Just as I seriously doubt that 'gridiron' players could
beat rugby players at rugby.  The teams for each of the sports are formed
for the particular needs of their game.  The skills needed for American
football are far more than just running the ball.

>[ Danger Mouse ] Still, I
>think a decent rugby team could run circles around any NFL team, provided
>they don't have to wear all that damned armour."

Liralen chuckles.  "But would they want to be speared by a helmet *without*
having their own padding?  In the NFL the 'armor' that is used becomes a
weapon as well.  Even in the helter skelter of Australian rules football, I
don't see hits like the hits I see in the NFL.  There *is* only so much an
unprotected human body can take."

She shrugs, "Don't know... I've played both rugby (grin... on an
all-women's rugby team, it was *insane* but *really* fun, too, and I've
*never* seen a group of women hassel men like these women did...) and
American football (at Caltech) and the games are enough different that I
still think that the thing I said above applies.  Each team would reign
supreme in their own sport..."

------
Liralen Li
li@inigo.Data-IO.com
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: c188-cr@po.berkeley.edu (Huggie Bear)
Subject: C offers apologies
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:36:05 GMT

C ambles up to the jukebox, digs a quarter out from his overalls,
and pumps it into the coin slot. He presses an 8 number combination,
and Patsy Klein's _Crazy_ begins to play. 

"Ah....", C sighs, a glass of soda in his ... hand???

After 2 minutes and 15 seconds, the song concludes. C looks around
the bar.
"My apologies to certain members of the bar, especially those who
have sent me mail to welcome me back. I inadvertently deleted a 
bunch of email, and lost a lot of these well-wishes.

"I'll be more careful in future. Mike, a round for us all!!!"

< THUNK THUNK THUNK >

( Damn. Missed again.... )

C
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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: li@Data-IO.COM (Phyllis Rostykus)
Subject: Cultural Exchange (was Re: Schooling)
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:47:02 GMT


"O.K." Liralen says in responce to Splash!'s question.  "'Sophmore: (Gk
sophos - wise + moros - foolish): a student in his second year at college
or secondary school.' I always liked that definition, someone that's wise
enough after the first year to actually start getting somewhere, but still
a fool.  We Americans use the designations, freshman-first year,
sophmore-second year, junior-third year, and senior-fourth year for almost
any four year school, high school or college."

"I grew up in a multitude of systems. K-5, 6-8, 9-12; K-6, 7-9, 10-12; K-6,
7-12; and K-6, 7-8, 9-12.  So none of them really surprise me.  I rather
like the German system, which is completely different, as well, where
college basically means that one gets the equivalent of a Master's degree,
and high school for those that fail the entrance exams is more vocationally
oriented than academic."

She grins, "Does that help answer your question any?" 

"Now..." Liralen grins a slightly wicked grin, "I have one for the
Austrailians.  It deals with the insane game of Austrailan Rules Football
(o.k. I'll admit, US Football probably seems pretty insane to you guys, or
even boring for that matter).  WHAT is the difference in the tackles that
result in the referee bouncing the ball and those that result in the
referee tossing the ball in the air?  That was the one thing that we had
absolutely *no* clue how to differentiate when we were watching the Grande
Final."

---
Liralen Li  -  li@inigo.Data-IO.com
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: College advice for John
Date: 29 Sep 1992 04:06:40 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Sep28.010947.26827@tamsun.tamu.edu>, rlm7337@tamsun.tamu.edu (Richard L. Mcmahon) writes:
>I'm begining to get the picture here...Although it won't be easy.  I don't
>qualify for Federal Aid.   

You know, it's just occurred to me.  One person suggested going to the campus
placement office to look for an on-campus job.  Someone else suggested the
financial aid office.  Has anybody ever considered going to the campus
employment office?  You know, the place where they hire people for jobs at the
college?  True, they're likely to be looking mostly for full-time people, and
for a job in the field you're majoring in, they'll usually be looking for
someone with at least a B.S., but it's worth checking to see if they're listing
any part-time jobs in your field.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Reminicing about alt.callahans past
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 19:16:00 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <717582054snx@redunser.demon.co.uk> mtemplar@redunser.demon.co.uk (Alan Ralph) writes:
>
>"At about the time I showed up, the Place was in the middle of a Coming Out
>Party hosted by one Laughing Cat (where is she now?). 

She's in Oregon, and hasn't managed to find her way back to the Net yet.
I'm not in contact with her, sorry.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Trying to be happy is like trying to build a machine for which the only
specification is that it should run noiselessly.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: Jack.Smoke@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jack Smoke)
Subject: Re: Colorful Phrases
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:53:11 GMT

One of the things my father used to say, as he made his rounds
(My father was one of the last doctors to make house calls):
"I'm off like a herd of Turtles."

Things we used to say in the Navy (Usually about the guy who
wrote the roster board, calling for Speargun 111 to be on SAR
guard all night):
"He's a few kids short of a schoolbus."
"He's a few ants short of a picnic."
"Wat a fuckhead!"
(Okay, that last one isn't picturesque, but we did say it a lot!)

	
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