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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: tlai@csri.toronto.edu (Tony Fu-Keung Lai)
Subject: Re: HK political groups
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 17 Oct 92 00:18:56 GMT

In article <1bnk0sINN3d7@agate.berkeley.edu> vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan) writes:
>In article <1992Oct16.142302.15917@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> tlai@csri.toronto.edu (Tony Fu-Keung Lai) writes:
>>>2) Here, I have a question to your question. What is "full democracy"?
>        
>	What I mean here is something like the democracy in the US or
>        other western countries. There is no semi-democracy. But, remember
>	CCP has their own definition of democracy. Agree ?
>
>>>
>>>In your question, are you supposing that the Communists are more mature in
>>>handling HK (local) matter? If the answer is not, I don't see why we are
>>>not mature enough in taking up democracy.
>>>
>
>	I am NOT supposing that ! HK people are in fact more mature than
>	people in mainland China to take up democracy and not that
>	mature when compared with some other countries such as US. 
>

Exactly!

Tony
From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: MADLY IN LOVE WITH HER!!!!
Date: 9 Oct 1992 17:44:13 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <ldbeuiINNf2n@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> 
MLT wrote:
>dear crazy boy,
>"girl is like a shadow. if you chase it, it will runway
> if you leave it alone, then it will chase after you"
Sorry, I left her alone, and she left me alone, and now,
we're both alone! :)
I don't think leaving her alone will accomplish much, unless
you've already gotten her interested in you (then, that's a
different story...perhaps guys should play hard to get :)
-- 
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Billy H. Chan 	<bhchan@ocf.berkeley.edu>   "Life: a strange new
Just Babbling   <bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu>   state of confusion"
Disclaimer 1:   I'm actually a really nice person. (sorta) :) ;)
From: john@jho.com (John Ho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: how can i apply a internet address in hk?
Date: 10 Oct 92 13:30:45 GMT
Organization: Software Programming, Inc., Dallas, Texas USA

u2116318@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>anyone know how can i apply a internet address 
>in HK?

You can get a e-mail account thru AT&T/Hutchison connection very easy
but a full blown Internet connection is a different story; it will not 
be easy unless you get big bucks (running cost is approx. HK$45,000 
a month) and you have to have some in-house experts.  Hong Kong 
Computer Society is trying very hard to work with the 
Universities and Polytechnics Computing Centre (UPCC) to get a 
connection but it is going no where right now.  They are 
considering to route mesages thru the AT&T mail and gateway 
it into all the Fido sites in HK.  Good luck to these guys.
-- 
John Ho from Dallas, Texas USA. (john@jho.com)           - No news is bad news.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: ezez@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Eric E. Zhang)
Subject: TEST
Keywords: IT IS A TEST
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:49:41 GMT
From: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HK political groups
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:46:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Oct14.224606.12990
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

tlai@csri.toronto.edu (Tony Fu-Keung Lai) writes:

>Hi,

>I want to start a discussion on Hong Kong political issues (hope
>it won't bore anyone), since most of us are from Hong Kong and 
>this is particularly important to those who stay in Hong Kong 
>even after 1997.

>Right now, Hong Kong has many political groups being set up in 
>these years. My first question is: which political group do you 
>support? What do you think about the altitudes of each of them?
>What do you expect to "see" in the Hong Kong politics' future?

[...]
>Indeed, Chris Patten's recent report is a little bit "over".

>Comments?

Would you mind listing the parties and explaining them (regarding their
goals, ideologies, etc.) in details?  I don't go home often--and was shocked
to see so many political parties formed in Hong Kong.  I Would like to
learn more about them before commenting.

Thanks,
Kelvin Leung
e-mail: abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: dteng@cmcvx1.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: The fifth tin wong
Organization: Claremont McKenna College
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:37:41 PST

In article <1992Oct14.121756.11259@athena.mit.edu>, pckyip@athena.mit.edu (Patrick C Yip) writes:
> In article <1992Oct13.222029.1@cmcvx1.claremont.edu> dteng@cmcvx1.claremont.edu writes:
>>In article <1992Oct9.083535.7743@usage.csd.unsw.OZ.AU>, u1040448@keystone.arch.unsw.edu.au (C Ma) writes:
>>> I think Jimmy (Lam Chi Wing) can sing better than Aaron Kwok.
>>> 
>>> Chibi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>You/He can kiss my rear end anytime you/he want/wants!
>>						BusterR
> 
> If only your rear end can sing as good as Jimmy Lam! Ha ha ha!
> 
> What I am sure is that your mouth is as filthy as your rear end! Nyah Nyah Nyah!
> 
> Patrick  
	You're absolutely, right, my rear end can sing exactly like Jimmy (waht
a CUTE name, oh!) and yes, it is really filthy also!!
	BTW, I think the only noise that my rear end can make is FART!!
	So, THERE! You smarty!
						BusterR!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: dteng@cmcvx1.claremont.edu
Subject: Re: Exotic Cars
Organization: Claremont McKenna College
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:49:37 PST

>>>>What do you post this news for???  Are you going to "SHINE" your CRX, mate???
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>Samuel
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> Dear Samuel, 
>>> 	Thank you for asking me the question.  I am going to give you very
>>> complete answers.  First of all, the only reason why I post it is to augment  
>>> your ability in rhetorical analysis to an article.  If you understood English, 
>>> please read the first sentence.  It says "let's start a topic about exotic  
>>> cars."  This sentence doesn't mean it is a piece of "news", as you mention! 
>>> It is simply a request! 
>>> 	To your second question, I don't mean to "brag", the word you really 
>>> wanted to use, about my car.  If you had a Ferrari, why would you protest 
>>> a person "shining" a car like CRX HF.  Hence, I infer that you are either an 
>>> owner of a piece of junk, OR you are a narrow-minded nitwit! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Remark:If you think I am rude, read yours first and up yours! 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 	Tony Chan cosc180f@jetson.uh.edu 
>> I just wanna give Tony a big high five!! In case you don't understand what a
>>"high-five" is, Samuel, it is just a action which two people hit each other's
>>hand. We do this in occasions when we think a certain individual has done a
>>good job on something, in this case, i gave Tony a hi-5 'cos I think he did a
>>good job writing that 'message' to you! So there!!
>>'nuff said, BusterR
> 
> 	Thank you very much!  Here comes my 'Hi-5'!
> 
> 
> 	Tony Chan cosc180f@jetson.uh.edu

		Where's our dear little Samuel friend?? Doesn't he have
anything to say anymore? 	
						BusterR!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: tychan@unccsun.uncc.edu (Tik Yuen Chan)
Subject: Re: Internal Conference?! (Concerning the future of 3LHA)
Summary: Name change for soc.culture.hongkong???????
Organization: R.S.P.C.A. (Dogs please come here, and have a nice death!!!)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:18:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.170002.3355@uxmail.ust.hk> bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk (HoiFung JACK @>-`) writes:
>**************Internal Conference of 3LHA***********************
>Return-Path: <bi_kin>
>Received: from ustsu2.ust.hk by uxmail.ust.hk (4.1/SMI-4.1)
>	id AA03323; Mon, 12 Oct 92 00:54:52 HKT
>Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 00:54:52 HKT
>From: bi_kin (HoiFung JACK @>-`)
>Message-Id: <9210111654.AA03323@uxmail.ust.hk>
>To: bhchan@ocf.berkeley.edu, bi_kin@uxmail.ust.hk,
>        mkwan@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au, shsieh@esk.compserv.utas.edu.au,
>        stu_wclau@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
>Subject: Compromise?!
>Cc: bi_kin
>Status: R
>
>
>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>		Three Lonely Hearts Arcade  @>-`-,-
>#############################################################################
>First of all, let me introduce myself to all you, my name is Ugly Dog.  
>Everyone can call me Dr. Dog (or Lonely Dog or Wandering Dog) here HKUST.
>____________________________________________________________________________
>
>As an originator of "Three Lonely Hearts Arcade" ( 3LHA ),
>I, Dr.Dog, feel there is a need to make a compromise here.
>There is already one Dr. Billy called himself being one of these 3LHs:
>
[STUFFS DELETED]
>Dr. Dog's last comment:
>No "NO WAY", "TRY TO SEE"!
>           __
>          /  \
>         / ..|\		No Matter you are white dog or black dog,
>        (_\  |_)
>        /  \@'			Those in this Arcade are VERY DOG!!! 
>       /     \
>  _   /  `   |				--- Dr. Dog 
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>   \   /_ || \\_
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Dr. Dog (bi_kin),
	Maybe the name of soc.culture.hongkong should be changed to
soc.culnui.3lonehts or misc.lonehts.hongkong
	Maybe there is a new newsgroup called alt.lonely.hearts coming up
for an infinity number of doctors (Dr.Dragon, Dr.Tiger, Dr.Puma, Dr.Snake,
Dr.Cat, ...., and finally you Dr.DOG).
	No offense. Have a nice day! Bye.

R.S.P.C.A. worldwide representative,
Dr. Wandering Dog Catcher.

P.S. If are invited as an VIP guest to our dog killing centre.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: vli@mpr.ca (Vincent Li)
Subject: Re: On Equality Between Genders
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 16:33:04 GMT

In article <1apvluINNk9m@roche.csl.sri.com> dchan@cisco.com (Derek Chan) writes:
>In article <23213@optima.cs.arizona.edu>, leoso@cs.arizona.edu (Leo WaiChung So) writes:
>|> 
>|>   One of my female friends recently have a discussion with me on
>|>   Gender Equality. She said that both "woman" and "female" are 
>|>   terms derived from "man" and "male" respectively. So she said
>|>   that western culture is male-dorminated culture from its very
>|>   beginning.
>|> 
>|>   Then I told her that in Chinese we have no such derivation: We
>|>   have "Nam Yan" and "Lui (Nui?) Yan", "Nam Sing" and "Lui Sing"
>|>   only. So she infered that Chinese culture does better than Western
>|>   in treating the two genders equally...
This is only an illusion because the European system of writing is different
from the Chinese. The Chinese character "Nam" is "field" + "strength", ie
field hand. The men did the ploughing and managing of the fields to feed his
family. "Lui" is a pictogram of a person kneeling in submissionn and obedience.

>
>Now. What  about  the word rape- "Lui Lui Lui". May be that the first rape
>case in the chinese history had no male involved. |8-O 
No, I think "Gan" with 3 "woman" is better translated as "evil". 3 women
together couldn't be up to anything good, you see. Consider the other form
of writing this character also: "Lui" + "Gon" (do) = "Gan" also.

Face it, the Chinese writing system is just as chauvinistic, if not more so.

-- Vince

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Graphic transfer tool.
From: johnny@futon.SFSU.EDU ()
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:30:59 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: San Francisco State University

Could anybody tell me the site of where I can download a software
for  transferring  .tif  graphics  into .gif graphics.  Thank you
very much.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William Lo)
Subject: Re: What should I do???
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI 
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:05:13 GMT

In article <1bfup1INNnaj@agate.berkeley.edu> bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan) writes:
>In article <1992Oct14.004055.29438@mprgate.mpr.ca> 
>ds3dl2@mprgate.mpr.ca  writes:
>>How do you know that you really love a girl or you just want to find a companion?

	Your age might tell: so, before 40(IMNSHO), it's love, after 
	40, it could be still love...but.. but...of some other nature.
	I.e. Your parents are putting tons of pressure on you, and
	you're getting pretty tired of being ridiculed around by
	people... 

	IMNSHO, it'd be wiser of ya getting married before 40 :-)

>>I have big trouble in analyzing my psychological intention when I feel like a girl.  What can I do???

	Don't ask me.   

>>Thanks in advance.

	** The actual followup to this was posted by Dr Silly-B
	  (a.k.a. Dr Low B) :-)

>Hey, mail this to the International Lonely Hearts Club! :)
>But, just so I say something meaningful in this post, I don't think
>you can really know.  Just pick one point of view, go with it for
>a while, see what happens.  If everything turns out ok, try the other
>point of view and go with that.  Which ever point of view works better,
>well, there's your answer.
>I've found out one thing though: Don't spend too much time thinking/
>brooding over the subject, being inactive.  Go do stuff with her, etc.
>and let your feelings find you instead of try ever so hard to find your
>feelings.  How's this for something I heard in Church the other day:
>	"I went to buy [something at some store] and said to 
>	the clerk, 'I'm looking for something, but I'm not sure
>	if it exists.'  
>	The clerk answers, 'Aren't we all?'"

	** Next time, please ring up the sales person :-)

>So, don't go about looking for something that might or might not exist,
>just go with the flow, and when that something does exists, you'll probably
>be the first (or second) one to know (but I'm sure you'll know when the
>time comes).  Hope that helps.  (now, to see if I can find that ILHC sig)
>
	That helps....me get more bemused I'm afraid... 

---Ciao,
	Bill
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From: v050qh6y@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: How to translate "bone air" into English?
Date: 11 Oct 92 22:44:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

i think ' bone air ' should be has pride and guts.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: jfong@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (John Fong)
Subject: graphic converter
Summary: convert Print Shops Graphics to other popular format
Originator: jfong@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
Keywords: graphic,convert
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 07:52:19 GMT

Hi, I am asking this for my brother.  My brother wants to know that is there
a program which can convert Print Shop's graphics to other popular format
(such as PCX or TIF) so he can use them in Desktop Publishing.  If so, where
I can find it?  Any help will be appreciate.  Thanks.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: vli@mpr.ca (Vincent Li)
Subject: Re: Search a way to give birth to a son?
Keywords: method, son
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 22:46:23 GMT

In article <1bfiu4INN1u7@roche.csl.sri.com> dchan@cisco.com (Derek Chan) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.203807.23270@amd.com>, henry@angelo.amd.com (Henry Choy) writes:
>|> In article <2328@cix.cict.fr> wu@uranus.cerfacs.fr (Wangnan Wu) writes:
>|> >Hi,
>|> >I'm just thirty-two years old and I had five daughters. I am
>|> >eager for method to give birth to a son! Do you know any method?
>|> >
>
>I think the only way to get a son is keep trying. The more daughters  you
>have the less chance you have for the next one to be a girl.
I don't think so. How many sons & daughters one has is destined in ones life.
If you are not to have a son, you never will, no matter how hard you try.
And, is it really that good to have one in the end? He might be the one who
squanders all your fortune and die in destitute. Just go with the flow.
>
>The chance of getting a girl is 50%.
Acutally a wee bit less in normal cases.
>
>The chance of getting a first girl and a second girl is 50% * 50% = 25%
No. The probability, for sake of argument, is still 50%! Actually, come to
think of it, human physiology is not as random as a coin toss. So, in fact,
may be your female sperms are dominant over your male sperms, ergo, your
chance of getting a second girl after the first girl might in fact be higher!
Just speculation.

-- Vince

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vli@mprgate.mpr.ca        |-) It works well under pressure: Another thing
                          |-] you can say about your pillow. -- Mr Boffo
Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:12685 soc.culture.taiwan:14486 soc.culture.china:28086
From: ecuzq@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr B H Y Tseng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: ooOO dOG AND GOd OOoo
Keywords: dog god
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:30:53 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1992Oct14.052741.17668@cucs5.cs.cuhk.hk> ctyau@cucs11.cs.cuhk.hk (Yau Chor Tung) writes:

>Then I would like to ask : Can God create such a stone while not making
>himself not omnipotent?  Your answer in fact cannot show that God is
>all-powerful.

You must ask yourself what kind of stone it is. Is it too heavy that
God couldn't lift it? The stone described in the question just said
it is a stone that God couldn't lift. So the question is really asking
God to do something that he cannot do. The problem is, There exists no
such stone. Can God create something which cannot possibly exist? No!
Can God create something which is A and not A at the same time? No!
But so what? God can do whatever He wills and won't act against His own
will.

>Can God draw a 2-D circle such that pi is not equal to 3.14159....,  maybe
>equal to 3? that is more convenient if we can use integer.

Same as asking God to draw a squared circle. A "circle" which pi does not
equal to 3.14159 is not a circle.

Maybe He could draw it, but we can't see it or we don't understand. :)
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From: wkau+@cs.cmu.edu (Wing Keung F Au)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Acts of love
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:37:36 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Oct13.012202.27390@cc.uow.edu.au> tcheung@cc.uow.edu.au (teresa cheung) writes:
> [tons of stuff about going after girls deleted]
>
>This sounds like waiting in line in a department store
>to buy some goods for sale.  Have you guys never experience
>a relationship where there is mutual attraction, mutual love
>and mutual friendship.  When you have found it, trust me, there
>is NO STRUGGLE to win that girl or guy.  Because, that LOVE
>is natural for both of you!

have you gals ever experienced a relationship in which there is 
mutual attraction, mutual love and mutual friendship.  when you
haven't found it, trust me, there is STRUGGLE to see whether that
LOVE is natural for both of you.  in the "jungle" out there, it is
only natural to STRUGGLE in order to survive.

"if you didn't inhale, how can you know that marijuana is no good
for you."  same for relationship.  keep trying...

gee, i hate shopping in a heterogeneous environment.  bring me the
good old days of communism when the almight comrade from above can
tell me who i am going to be with when i was born.  there are more
than 1 dept store, and more than 1 counter at each of them (hee heee)

think about it this way, there is so much similarity between finding
your mate (note, i have not assumed anything about your sexual 
preference) and finding a job...there are companies that you don't
want to work for, and even within one company, there might be only
1 dept that you are truly interested in...

8-)
PS: back to my regular programming...

-- 

				    FRed W. Au
				    ...!cmu.edu!au+, au+@cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
From: yang@milton.cs.uiuc.edu (Der-Shung Yang)
Subject: Re: Weekly Love Story -- No. 1
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:33:10 GMT

ericlaw@vax.muskingum.edu (Eric Law, Geology Department) writes:

>In article <1992Oct15.203746.14534@m.cs.uiuc.edu>, yang@dante.cs.uiuc.edu (Der-Shung Yang) writes:
>> 
>>>	** #A and #B are in deep love or are married.
>>>	   #B is satisfied (at least for that moment)
>>>	   #A obvious is not or not quite or not as #B is.
>> 
>>>	   This is one of the difference between a man and a woman.
>> 
>> Do you mean that a man is usually not as satisfied with a marriage as 
>> a woman is?  That sounds quite an outdated idea (even in modern Chinese
>> societies, not mention the Western societies).  

>	** Yes.

>	   I mean marriage is not as important to a man as that to a 
>	   woman.

I'm wondering what century you are in:-) Just FYI, a recent news from Beijing 
said most divorces in China were initiated by women, not by men.

>	   This should not be the fault of man. But this will tell
>	   a man how to treat his woman.
--
DerShung Yang    
yang@cs.uiuc.edu 
Beckman Institute
Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
From: vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: HK political groups
Date: 16 Oct 1992 23:42:20 GMT
Organization: Haas School of Business, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: haas.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct16.142302.15917@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> tlai@csri.toronto.edu (Tony Fu-Keung Lai) writes:
>>2) Here, I have a question to your question. What is "full democracy"?
        
	What I mean here is something like the democracy in the US or
        other western countries. There is no semi-democracy. But, remember
	CCP has their own definition of democracy. Agree ?

>>
>>In your question, are you supposing that the Communists are more mature in
>>handling HK (local) matter? If the answer is not, I don't see why we are
>>not mature enough in taking up democracy.
>>

	I am NOT supposing that ! HK people are in fact more mature than
	people in mainland China to take up democracy and not that
	mature when compared with some other countries such as US.