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From: yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: About the pretty girl I posted
Summary: Let's have fresh air
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:31:20 GMT
Reply-To: yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <Bz36I6.5L4@ecf.toronto.edu> zeng@ecf.toronto.edu (ZENG 
Roger Wei Gang) writes:
>Hi all ...
>
>Thanx to all you guys (or maybe even gals?) who apprciated my previous
>posting of MISS.GIF. Some kind soul out there has pointed out to me that 
>her name is Noriko Sakai, Japanese Pop Idol Singer. However, ...
>

Dosn't matter, as long as she is pretty.

>The second point I want to clarify here is that I DO NOT think this kind
>of picture is not appropriate for this group. ...
>

In America you can hardly find something inappropriate as long as it's
legal.
 
>In a effort to initial a series of future discussions. I'll do the 
>following:
>1. I'll post one picture every several days, mainly of girls that I
>think is pretty, cute, beautiful, attractive or whatever you call it. 
>There could also be some scenic pictures if I feel there's a need.
>

Unfortunately, I can't enjoy it. Your nice girls seems to me are
nothing than a bunch of mysterious symbols, since I am a layman in
computer graphics.

>2. I'll try to adapt a ranking system for every picture I post, 
>reprensting how much I like the girl in the picture. This is to 
>encourage friendly discussion among our netter about the girl. The score 
>will be out of ten. For example, for Noriko in the MISS.GIF, my score for 
>her would be 9 out  of 10.
>

It seems to me this is sort of "beauty contest". The girl's picture is
going to be a big event in here. In order to be fair to these girls, 
and to netters, why don't you first post some instructions about how
to view the picture (don't assume any graphic experience, series
posters if necessary).
  
>3. I would like to start some discussion about Taiwanese, Hong Kong'ese,
>Chinese, maybe even Japanese singers, acters and actresses. This would 
>be different from the discussion in soc.culture.taiwan, hongkong, japan. 
>'Cos we're dicussing them for a mainlander's point of view, and wouldn't 
>that be interesting!
>

Goodd! After sometimes you will become an expert. If we follow you
consistently, no doubt we'll get job offer from some journals,
if not from Holywood.

>Above all, PLEASE PARTICIPATE the dicussion 'cos everybody wants to see 
>a more interesting, more readable, friendiler SCC, not just dumb politics 
>and stupid accusations. Let's have fun, fun, fun ...

Sometimes "dumb politics and stupid accusations" are also enjoyable.
Remember Bill Clinton's smiling face when Bush and Pero were accusing
each other.

>-- 
>					Roger Zeng
>					Engeering Science 9T5
>					University of Toronto
>					e-mail: zeng@ecf.toronto.edu

Guo-Xiang
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: kwee@us.oracle.com (Karl Wee)
Subject: test
Originator: kwee@dvlseq.us.oracle.com
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores, California
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:26:09 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

Sorry, just a test.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: dh5m@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Donghai  Huangfu)
Subject: Re: An Old Arithmatic Problem
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:30:41 GMT


>>5*(5-1/5)
>>
>>Good day!
>
>           Good.
>           Let's try something funny.
>           4 cards : 1  1  3  3

3*(1+1)^3
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: fengxi@prancer.eche.ualberta.ca (Fengxi Zhou)
Subject: Re: Culture or Politics?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:23:42 GMT

I happen to have a few indian office mates and i asked them about "soc.culture.
india". Well, it sounds that group is very much like this one. Some pakistani
also like to post offensive materials into that group and wage flame wars. All 
sounds very familiar.
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: The best solution to end this line. :-)Re: math problem
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:14:30 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <Bz9GLM.1v3@cs.psu.edu> echeng@phys.psu.edu (Eddie Cheng) writes:
>
>	Certainly!  And that guy (Dr. Jinyuan Wu) is a physicist!
>
>	All you mathematicians (professional or amateur ones) take note.
>
>:-)  :-)

This is because that modem mathematicians hardly bothered with problems
like integration, differential equation solving or root finding.  But a
physicist still do ;-)

Plus, a person didn't post does not mean that he/she didn't know :-)

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
From: jamesou@liverbug.hsc.usc.edu (James Ou)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Project Hope and DXP (was Re: How many Schools can...)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 16:46:39 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: liverbug.hsc.usc.edu


In <1992Dec12.001701.3375@nntp.hut.fi>, ldong@hila.hut.fi (Liyun Dong)
writes:

>Mr DXP is also an ordinary person with family life and grand childrens.
>It not always so easy for a person to throw 5000 yuans out of his pocket.
>His action could also encourage others (officials or ordinary people) to
>follow his suits.
>We should respect such action. If DXP can send 5000 yuan, why cannot we
>send 100 yuan instead of only making comments on it?

Yes, you are absolutely right, we should take action instead of
making comments. After all, our ancient sage taught us, "Zhuo4
er2 yan2, bu4 ru2 qi3 er2 xing2 [sit to talk is not as good as
stand up to do it]." :-) Let's both donate to Lix's SOS Education 
Fund. :-)

Frankly, if DXP is indeed an ordinary person, I will respect him
highly for his donation to the Project Hope. But, no, I disagree
with you, DXP is not an ordinary person. His name can make
fortunes for his family members, his words can make CCP party
secretary and PRC prime minister to rise and to fall, and his words
can also cause education to reach every school-age child in PRC.

I used to respect DXP at least as much as you do. He was a
courageous person. He was humiliated during Cultural Revolution
and his son was paralyzed by the Red Guards, but, yet, he was
able to rise to become the leader of China again. In 1978,
Americans were angry about Jimmy Carter's plan to visit China,
because, since Nixon visited China, no Chinese leader had visited
the U.S. yet. DXP, without much hesitation, made a trip to visit
the U.S. first. He wore a cowboy hat when he was visiting
Texas, and he clapped his hands to respond to the applause of the
American people who were greeting him. I was so moved when I saw
him on the American T.V. at that time. DXP was so popular in the
U.S. that he got elected as "The Man of the Year" by the Time
magazine. He indeed deserved that honor. After he returned to
China, the door of China was opened. Tens of thousands of Chinese
students and scholars appeared in the U.S. The image of Chinese
in the eyes of Americans was totally changed. Charlie Chan and Fu
Manchu were no longer used to portray Chinese. DXP created a new
era. I had high hope for DXP who I thought would be the savior of
Chinese people. Well, my hope was shattered on the night of
6.4.89. I was so depressed when I saw the handwriting of DXP on
People's Daily calling the murderers died in the TAM square "the
national guards of our fatherland [Zu3 Guo2 Wei4 Shi4]". My
hope for DXP was gone forever. The image that DXP smiled and
wore a cowboy hat and clapped hands to the American people turned
into painful memories for me.


***"I will support Comrade Hua4 Guo2 Feng1 all the way to the 21 century."

			--DXP in 1977 after the fall of Gang of Four.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: utingli@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: Another Math question
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:14:22 GMT

Here is another Math problem:
Using three 2's to represent all the nature numbers.

Tingli Pan   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: myhui@bnr.ca (Michael Hui)
Subject: Re: DATA: largest world economies
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 23:24:19 GMT

In article <105168@bu.edu> yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu) writes:
>Look at what happens in US. Although a large propotion of American 
>don't like Clinton, he still will be their president. What they can do
>is do it better next time.

They couldn't have done any better this time. Clinton was the best choice.
Next time? Who knows? Worry about it when the time comes.

>This is real DEMOCRACY! People should
>respect each other political view.

I totally agree.

>Whether Taiwan should be a
>independent country or not can only be decided by the whole Taiwan
>people.

Not so simple. I thought the CCP have, for the longest time, maintained
that they simply haven't bothered to "conquer" Taiwan, but in their mind,
the whole nation is theirs after they took over the capitol; and "nation"
does include Taiwan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: dwong@chopsuey.pico ( paganini's admirer )
Subject: laughable encounter in Beijing airport
Reply-To: dwong@chopsuey.pico
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:34:20 GMT

Last time in Beijing airport I asked the guy at the information desk where the
washroom (xi2 xio3 jen1 (sp?)) was.  His unhappy reply was: "xi2xio3 jen1" is in
the toilet (che4 so3)!".  :-)   Well naturally I asked him again where the toilet
was and got the proper direction.



David W.




Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wang@ps.ic.ac.uk (Haushan Wang)
Subject: Culture or Politics?
Originator: wang@
Organization: Imperial College, Process Simulation IRC
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:13:52 GMT

Hi,

I have attempted to READ this group several times but have failed so far
to cut through the crab of all these "political arguments" about China, Taiwan
and Hongkong.  I thought this was meant to be a cultural forum, but it sounds
more like a swearing contest.  So can someone tell me if I am missing something
about this group, or perhaps I just have to bear with all the verbal skirmish
in order to get something of interests?  Maybe these articles should put
"political rubbish" as Subject so I can skip over them painlessly?


Yours disgusted


HW
From: yao@ee.rochester.edu (Meng Yao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: a fun problem #2
Date: 18 Dec 92 18:42:21 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <1gru37INN8hb@physics.usc.edu> adamli@physics.usc.edu (Adam Li) writes:
>
>
>I think the solution is wrong.
>
>If I have, say, 1000 doors. Only 1 car behind 1 of them. 
>Then I take one door. Before I open it, the host open 998 other doors,
>and nothing behind those 998 doors.
>Then according to your opinion, the car will be 999/1000 chance behind
>the other door kept unopened. and only 1/1000 behind the door I choose.
>
>I think the way to explain it is:
>1. When I got the right door. The host has 999 ways to select which
>   door he left.
>2. When I got the wrong door. The host has only 1 way to select which
>   door he left.
>So, the possibility for stick and win
>   P(stick)= 1/1000*999*1 + 999/1000*0=999/1000
>    the possibility for change and win
>   P(change)= 999/1000*1 + 1/1000*999*0 =999/1000
>Those two possibility are EQUAL.
>
>Li 

I did not finish reading your posting, because you misunderstand the question.
After you choose one door, to enhance you chance of winning, the host will
open only one of the doors that have a goat behind it, not 998 as you assume.

Meng
From: xic@utkvx2.utk.edu (Chen, Xi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 1 dime + 1 quarter = 35 cents
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:19:00 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Dec.14.18.18.17.1992.3094@soliton.rutgers.edu>, zzhang@soliton.rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang) writes...
>Ok, two coins, a dime and a quarter make up 35 cent, right? Now, can you 
>make up 35 cents from two coins when one of them is not a quarter?
>ZZZ

It all depends upon how do you interpret "make up".  I have  two half dollar
coins, and I go to a shop buy a can of coke which costs 65 cents.  I have
35 cents left.  Do not buy it on vending machine, since it does not eat
big coin.  Just for fun.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: carl_@nwu.edu 
Subject: Re: How Turkic are the "Uygurs" (Was Re: Russian in Xinjiang)
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 22:52:35 GMT

In article <92Dec14.161558est.114@orasis.vis.toronto.edu> liuyh@vis.toronto.edu  
(Yuanhui Liu) writes:
> hmmm, I don't know.  when early Manchurians took over Northern China
> from Song Dynasty and founded the Jin, their written language was
> very close to written Chinese, although the meaning of the words
> are lost today, and very few expert can figure out a couple of characters.
> 
> then again, same thing happened to the Tibetan-related Western Xia Kingdom
> during that period.   To modern day Chinese, words from those two 
> lost written language looks exactly like Chinese, but they are just
> not recognizable.   

I think Western Xia kingdom is a Khitan kingdom and Khitan is more Mongolian  
than Tibetan.

Carl
From: hchen@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Hong Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: puzzle?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 13:46:53 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu
From: hchen@mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu (Hong Chen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 24 points or no 24 points
Date: 17 Dec 1992 17:28:08 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu

how about make a 24 from each of the 5, 7, 10 and (1, 2,...,10) combinations?
i made up this series myself long time ago and found out that one, but only
one of them is impossible. i would be delighted to see anyone be able to solve all
all of them. prefer only simple arithmatics, though. it is kind of fun because
each asks a slightly different calculation.
From: stacc0@quantum.fiu.edu (Ye)
Subject: Re: How do you say "Will you marry me" in Chinese?
Organization: Florida International University, Miami
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:46:17 GMT


Answer:

Gu3Ren2 Yue4:  Nan2 Da4 Dang1Huen1, Nv3 Da4 Dang1Jia4  (followed by a lot of goo-goo eyes)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: jinxiong@cs.ucf.edu (Chen Jinxiong)
Subject: Zhou En-Lai !!!
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:55:06 GMT


Yesterday on *Jeopardy* there was a question:

	Li Peng was the adopted son of the first priminister of China.
What is his name ? 

Nobody got the correct answer. One contestant answered *Mao*.

- Chen Jinxiong

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: lix@crsa.bu.edu (Xiaowen Li)
Subject: Re: The donation and CCP's hope engineering
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 01:31:32 GMT

Got too busy, can't rlogin to follow SCC. But friends forwarded the
subject article of Steve Lin to me, as an encouraging to SOS.

Steve got notable improvement recently, I must say. He said:

>It is a general philosphy that the donators don't want anybody
>knows. To do one good thing per day, is not to let people know.

Apparently, Steve read "YanZi JiaXun" not long ago. "San Yu Ren Zhi,
not Zheng San," (If you want others to know you did something good,
it is then not real-good." Steve, congratualation, you are learning!!!

Nevertheless, Steve, as I called him, a man who carries national flag
(of KMT), has donated $100 for education in China (mainland). Now, let's
see how much our P-fighters donate. Well, D-fighters also.

Well, Fighters (D or P) usually say, my money does not matter, if I am
the preseident of China, I will budget 100000000000000000000 billions
for education. But after 150 years of fighting, I'd like to trust small
contribution, rather than big promise :-(
From: nlu@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Is Hong Kong people Chinese? (Was: Re: Is Taiwanese CHinese?)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:19:13 GMT

In article <1gtkoqINNa8h@agate.berkeley.edu> vchan@haas.berkeley.edu (Vincent Chan) writes:

>	Let me add some more :
>
>	If they don't think they are Chinese, get rid of their Chinese
>	last name and don't use Chinese characters !!
>

Sorry, but this just don't hold water.  Anglo-origin Americans certainly don't
view themselves as English.  Should they get rid of their English last names
and not use English as their language?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:08:57 EST
From: <XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: An Old Arithmatic Problem
 <1992Dec16.194437.14870@risky.ecs.umass.edu> <BzDGI5.D8C@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
 <BzDKI4.EoF@acsu.buffalo.edu>

From: dtwei@acsu.buffalo.edu (Danielle T Wei)
Subject: Re: An Old Arithmatic Problem
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:13:15 GMT

In article <BzDGI5.D8C@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> b4k@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ming Luo)
writes:
>       If you take one spoon full of juice from the right bucket, add it
>to the water in the left bucket. Stir it till uniform. Then take the same
>spoon full of the mixed solution from the left bucket, add it back to the
>right bucket. Now the two buckets have the same original volumes.
>       Question:
>
>       Did you put more juice into water, or more water into juice?

I assume since the volume did not change, you must've put the same amount
of juice into the water as you put the water into the juice.

Well lets see. Suppose you have 10 gallons of water and 10 gallons of juice
and the spoon is a 1-gallon spoon.
After you put the juice into the water, you have: 9 gallons of juice in one,
1 gallon of juice + 10 gallons of water in the other.
If you take 1 gallon of this solution, you'll have to take:
1/11 gallons of juice and 10/11 gallons of water, leaving behind:
10/11 gallons of juice, and 9+1/11 gallons of water
the net flow here is: +10/11 juice
when you dump the solution in the spoon into the other bucket,
you'll have in the other bucket: 9+1/11 gallons of juice and 10//11 of water
the net flow is: +10/11 water

Am I right??

            You might assume the volume of a spoon
            is zero (flat one).
            See what you get.
            And also assume the volume of a spoon
            is same  as the bucket volume ( big spoon little bucket).
            Then see what you get.
            And try to figure out more juice or
            water exchanged.
            BTW can you get 2 gallon juice+water by
            mixing 1 gallon juice and 1 gallon water?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:36:51 EST
From: <B7D@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: a fun problem
 <1992Dec16.175720.9520@ee.rochester.edu> <850@blue.cis.pitt.edu>
 <BzDMFr.Ayy@news.iastate.edu>

I have not seen any response to Ivan's challenge. It might be that the smartest
 guys always know how to avoid 'risky':-). Anyway, I will try and see whether
 we can defeat anyone whose name is not like Chinese:-)-:).

      Divide the 12 balls into 3 groups of each 4 balls and measure either 2
      of 3 groups against each other.

      1. If the two groups balance, the abnormal one is in the last group.

          a. Divide the last group of 4 balls into 2 gropus of each 2 balls
             and weigh one of the 2 ball groups against the two normal balls
             so we can decide which one of the 2 ball groups contains the
             abnormal ball.
          b. Select one of the two balls from the abnormal group and weigh it
             against the normal one so we can decide which one of the two balls
             in the abnormal group is abnormal (but we may not know whether it
             is heavier or lighter).

      2. If the 2 groups of 4 balls do not balance we get more trouble:-).
         I will use H, L, or N to denote a ball from one of heavier,
         lighter, or normal ball groups.

         Then select 2L+3H against 4N+1H.

          a. If the left side is heavier, then the abnormal ball is heavier and
             must one of 3H. Select either 2H of 3H and measure one of them
             against the other. We can decide which one of 3H is heavier.
          b. If the left side lighter, the abnormal ball must be one of 2L on
             the left side. Then measuring one of them against the other will
             tell us which one of them lighter.
          c. If the two sides balance, the abnormal ball must be lighter and
             must be one of those 2L that are not yet measured. Then weighing
             one of them against the other will tell us which one is lighter.

        We could select 2H+3L agaist 4N+1L but reasoning may be a little bit
        different.

 Question: Has anyone solved 13 ball problem yet?

   Duane

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.asian.american
From: yu@physun.physics.mcmaster.ca (Fan Yu)
Subject: Re: Which box will you take?
Organization: Dept. of Physics & Astronomy, McMaster University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:15:10 GMT

In article <Dec.17.15.09.03.1992.11153@soliton.rutgers.edu> zzhang@soliton.rutgers.edu (ZhiZhong Zhang) writes:
>
>The recent series of games is much more interesting than flaming wars. Here
>is my little contribution. It is a puzzle of porbability.
>
>There are two boxes. One box contains twice as much money as the other box.
>That's all you know. Suppose you open a box, it contains $200. You have the
>choice to take the $200 or take the other box. Will you take the $200 or
>will you take the other box?   Well, you would say, it doesn't matter.

[thoughts on why human always want new stuff deleted]

>zzhang@physics.rutgers.edu

well, my comment says it all. How many times have you seen a person settling
for a smaller prize, neglecting the car/train/plane that the game-show host
is waving in front of his/her eyes? This is not simple physics or math, you
have to investigate the effect of excessive adrenalin level on human brain
function, due to the cheering of the contender's wife/son/daughter/grandma-in-
law/whatsoever, and countless other factors. And there's this sayign that
foreign moon is always bigger and neighbour's wife is always prettier.

Humans!(sigh) God I wish I understand them!

FY

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: Is Chairman Mao God?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:52:45 GMT

He was.
From: huangz@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chinese Running Dog
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:03:56 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

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