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From: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: WC Group 3 Spain vs. Latvia
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:57:49 GMT
Reply-To: spain@galvia.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

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In article <1992Dec17.143121.17117@emr1.emr.ca>, halchuk@seismo.emr.ca (Steve 
|>I have yet to see any first hand accounts of this match from across the
|>pond so I'll post what I know from a static-ridden BBC shortwave broadcast
|>
|>SPAIN 5 LATVIA 0
|>
|>Spain exploded for all 5 goals in the second half. If this is the correct
|>score the current standings are:
|>
|>GROUP 3
|>                    Played  Won  Drew  Lost   For  Against  Points
|> SPAIN                5      2     3     0      8      0       7  
|> IRELAND              4      2     2     0      6      0       6     
|> DENMARK              4      1     3     0      1      0       5 
|> LITHUANIA            5      1     3     1      5      5       5
|> NORTHERN IRELAND     4      1     2     1      5      3       4  
|> LATVIA               7      0     4     3      3     13       4   
|> ALBANIA              5      1     1     3      2      9       3

Yes, a good win for a Spanish side that showed 7 changes from the team that drew 0-0 with Ireland in Seville.  All 5 goals were scored in the second half with 
3 coming in the final 10 minutes.  The scorers were Bakero, Guardiola,
Perez and Berguiristain 2.

The standings are correct and Spain are likely to go 3 points clear in February
when they entertain Lithuania.  I still feel Ireland are in pole position
and at this early stage look likely group winners.  There's a lot of football
to be played yet.

Next games
17/2 Albania v NI
24/2 Spain v Lithuania
31/3 ROI v NI
31/3 Denmark v Spain

The Northern Ireland game is of vital importance to us.  We must win but it
will be very very difficult.  Games between neighbouring countries are
almost tense but this is of added signifigance.  NI are effectively out
of contention but they would obviously love to get a result in Dublin.
Hopefully the sellout crowd (could sell it out 10 times over) will roar
the Republic on to victory but it will be very difficult and very tense.  A
lucky 1-0 win would do us fine.  Where are you now George Dunlop?  :-)


       Gary Spain, DEC, Galway, Ireland   - spain@galvia.enet.dec.com

  On being a football fan: "I am aware of the downside to this wonderful 
  facility that men have: they become repressed, they fail in their 
  relationships with women,their conversation is trivial and boorish, they 
  find themselves unable to express their emotional needs, they cannot relate
  to their children, and die lonely and miserable. But you know, what the hell?"
								   Nick Hornby
From: lamfpn@uts.uni-c.dk (Per Nielsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: RULE CHANGES
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:43:44 GMT
Organization: UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education

In <1992Dec14.054305.52647@gmuvax.gmu.edu> 2005bj@gmuvax.gmu.edu writes:

>SOCCER IS UNDOUBTEDLY THE MOST EXCITING, AND MOST ENTERTAINING SPORT IN 
>THE WORLD.  THE NEW RULES IMPOSED BY FIFA IN THE PAST YEAR HAVE GREATLY
>CONTRIBUTED TO THE GAME OF SOCCER.

I agree!

>I THINK, THOUGH, THAT THERE ARE STILL
>SOME CHANGES IN THE RULES THAT MUST BE CONSIDERED.  THE GAME CLOCK 
>SHOULD BE STOPPED WHENEVER THERE IS AN INJURY, OR WHEN THE BALL GOES OUT
>OF BOUNDS. THIS WOULD PREVENT PLAYERS FROM KILLING TIME OFF THE CLOCK
>ON PURPOSE. ALSO, THERE SHOULD BE A GREATER NUMBER OF SUBSTITUTIONS 
>ALLOWED.  WHAT DO YOU THINK?  SEND ME YOUR RESPONSES!

Actually, ACCORDING TO THE LAW the clock SHALL be stopped when there is
an injury or if the referee thinks that a player is trying to kill time
by taking his time with a free-kick, goal-kick etc. The problem here
seems to be that the referees not always keep to this rule.

>MARCOS DE SOUZA   (TODO MUNDO TENTA, MAS SO O MENGAO E' QUE E' PENTA!)
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Subject: Spanish Div.2 League
From: zxnoueih@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (...VALENCIA...)
Date: 14 Dec 92 11:53:06 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

Here we go!:




Lugo          - Real Madrid B: 1 - 2
Bilbao Atl    - Majorca      : 3 - 0
Valladolid    - Sestao       : 1 - 1
Palamos       - Compostela   : 1 - 0
Barcelona B   - Badajoz      : 1 - 2
Vila-real     - Castellon    : 1 - 1
Melida        - Sabadel      : 1 - 0
Lleida        - Figueras     : 1 - 1
Eibar         - Marbella     : 0 - 1
Betis         - Santander    : 1 - 0



Table:

    TEAM            POINTS
    ----            ------
1.  Lleida           22      
2.  Majorca          19  
    Santander        19
4.  Marbella         17
5.  Barcelona B.     16
    Valladolid       16 *****
    Real Madrid B    16
    Betis            16
9.  Castellon        15
10. Figueras         13
    Bilbao Atl.      13
    Melida           13
    Badajoz          13
    Palamos          13
15. Sestao           11
    Vila-real        11
17. Sabadel          10
18. Compostela        9 *****
19. Lugo              8
    Eibar             8


*****: less one game.

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From: SYSMAINT%BRUFBA.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Luiz Alberto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Brasil - Germany
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:00:38 GMT
Organization: Universidade Federal da Bahia - Brasil
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X-Unparseable-Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:47:00 BRA

Dec. 16
-------
 Place - Beira Rio (Rio Grande do Sul - Brazil)
 Referee - Juan Francisco Escobar (Paraguay)

 Brazil          3-1   Germany
 Luis Henrique 38(1)   Sammer 39(2)
 Bebeto 42(1)
 Jorginho 47(2)

 Line-ups

 Brazil:Taffarel;Jorginho,Paulao,Celio Silva and Branco;
        Mauro Silva,Luis Henrique(Junior-53),Silas(Luizinho-88) and
        Zinho;Bebeto(Renato Gaucho-67) and Careca(Romario-67).
        Coach- Carlos Alberto Parreira.

Germany:Illgner;Buchwald,Worns and Kohler;Wolter(Zorc-58),Effenberg,
        Matthaeus,Hassler(Sammer-80) and Wagner(Reinhardt-45);
        Klinsmann and Thom(Doll-67)
        Coach- Berti Vogts

Yellow Cards - Effenberg(G),Silas(B) and Thom(G).
From: denis@khafji.Stanford.EDU (Denis Schiozer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: top ten CLUB sides
Date: 16 Dec 1992 00:09:25 GMT
Organization: Stanford Univ. Earth Sciences
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>> 
>>anyone for the top ten CLUB sides in the world????
>Those are mine:
>
>1. Barcelona
>2. Milan
>3. Olympique Marseille
>4. PSV
>5. Ajax
>6. Torino
>7. Fiorentina
>8. Borussia Dortmund
>9. Paris Saint-Germain
>10.Anderlecht
>
>(Is it a coincidence they're all European?)
>

Sorry but it looks like you are far out of the reality.

Where is Sao Paulo? Sao Paulo beated Barcelona twice this year
(4x1 in Spain) and (2x1 in Tokyo).

Where is Cruzeiro? Cruzeiro just won the South America Cup of the
winners of Libertadores.

I am sure that many other teams can listed before Torino, Fiorentina
etc.

Denis Schiozer
denis@pangea.satanford.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From:  (Jacopo Andreose)
Subject: Re: Marco Van Basten
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 12:38:37 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.084227.29326@ghost.dsi.unimi.it>,
massari@ghost.dsi.unimi.it (Gianmario Massari) wrote:
 
> Informal News from `France Football`:
> 
> 
> 	MARCO VAN BASTEN IS NEW BEST PLAYER IN EUROPE.
> 	HE WON HER 3rd GOLD .                     
>         ^^^

O.K. some people might say that he is not the toughest forward around, some
say he is down to the ground before defenders actually touch him, some say
he is a pussy, but isn't that "HER" a wee excessive for world's number one?
 
> Bye.
> 
> 			Gianmario
> 
> 
> 	You can't beat red-black army.

You bet you can't!

Jacopo

Jacopo Andreose | jacopo@pons.uio.no | +47-2-851252 | Forza Milan! 
Inst of Neurophysiology, University of Oslo, Norway | Forza Venezia!
From: abrantes@cs.pitt.edu (Jorge Abrantes)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Brazil 3 X 1 Germany
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:33:15 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

Brazil still as the best soccer team of the world. The question is
that its best players are playing in Europe and they don't have 
much time to practice together. Recently the Sao Paulo team beat
Barcelona (2-1) in Tokyo and is the new world champion team.  This
week, the Brazilian team won the Germany team (3-1), the brazilian
team was formes by the players which are playing in Europe.

Jorge.
From: nmuller@ems.cdc.com (Nelson Muller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: top ten CLUB sides
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:14:20 GMT
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <1992Dec9.140511.2337@dct.ac.uk>, mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:
|> 
|>  
|> anyone for the top ten CLUB sides in the world????
|> 
|> mine are as follows....
|> 
|> 1. Milan

1. Sao Paulo

It just won the Toyota Cup.  It deserves the first place award!

|> 2. Juventus
|> 3. Barca
|> 4. Nacional
|> 5. Sao Paolo
|> 6. Real madrid
|> 7. Internazionale
|> 8. River Plate
|> 9. Marselles
|> 10.Bayern Munich
|> 
|> those are mine anyway
|> 
|> ps. no Man United 'cos they are crap and the above 10 would completely murder
|> them. No other english or scottish sides for the same reason
|> 
|> pps. Anyone who says Man United are the biggest club in the world is talking
|> rubbish. Fiorentina have won more and are regarded as one of the smaller clubs
|> in italy
|> 
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From: gwreich@athena.mit.edu (Greg Reich)
Subject: Re: Montreal got a new concession in the APSL
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:09:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.130446.9894@st-andrews.ac.uk>, dmg@st-andrews.ac.uk (David Gill) writes:
|> In article <Bz0qnL.K8A@DMI.USherb.CA> bedaj00@DMI.USherb.CA (JOEL BEDARD) writes:
|> >
|> >Today, in "Le journal de Montreal" made an article about that.
|> >This news will be official tomorrow.
|> >
|> >The announce will be made by Bill Sage at the Sheraton center.
|> >
|> >The APSL got now 6 team:
|> >
|> >   -> Montreal
|> >   -> Vancouver
|> >   -> Los Angeles
|> >   -> Miami/Fort Lauderdales
|> >   -> Tampa Bay
|> >   -> Colorado
|> >
|> >Good news for soccer fan in Montreal and the rest of North America!
|> >
|> >     Joel
|> >
|> >-- 
|> >Joel Bedard       E-Mail :  bedaj00@dmi.usherb.ca
|> >
|> >Universite de Sherbrooke, Quebec, Canada
|> 
|> 
|> A lot of articles mention the APSL but no one ever describes it. Does anyone
|> know anything about it?
|> 
|> What sort of interest is there in the league : are the teams well known in
|> their home towns? Do they get decent write ups in local or national newspapers?
|> What sort of attendances to the matches get? Are any matches on TV?
|> 
|> Also about the actual league itself: does anyone watch any of the games?
|> What standard is the football thats played?
|> 
|> Which is the most succesful team? and have any APSL teams played friendlies 
|> against foreign teams, and if so how have they done?
|> 
|> As someone who doesn't know anything about football in the US I'd like to
|> know how popular the current league is.
|> 
|> Thanks,
|> David.


Well, answer to some of your questions:

No.   No.   No.  No.  Some.  Sort of.

The Colorado Foxes won both the league and the "Professional Cup", 
which I'm not quite sure about, but they did play the 86's and maybe
a team from Mexico.  Not totally clear.  The Foxes are well followed 
by the vast amounts of youth teams in the area, but they don't get a
lot of press by anyone.  They play in one of the smaller high school
stadiums in Denver, but did attract in excess of 3,000 for the
championship game against the Rowdies.  BTW, the winning goal was
scored by Chad Ashton, from Denver (Iplayed against him in high school).

Laters.

Greg R.
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Subject: RE: FA Cup 3rd Round : Help Required
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:52:05 +0000







In <92350.082939P85014@BARILVM.BITNET> glenn@hpman010.uksr.hp.com
(Glenn Mackie) wrote:

>Anthony Waller (P85014@BARILVM.BITNET) wrote:
>:   The 3rd round of the English FA Cup is on Sat Jan 2.
>:
>:   Does anyone know when the replays will be played?
>:
>:   I'm especially interested in a possible Leeds United - Charlton
>: Athletic replay.  Since the tie on Jan 2 is at Leeds I presume the
>: replay would be at "The Valley."
>:
>:   I'm interested in any other midweek (Jan 3 - Jan 7) games in
>: London or near London.  Are any of the Saturday ties in London
>: likely to be played on Sunday or Monday?
>:

>        Believe it or not the replays are normally played, weather and other
>        fixtures permitting, the following Tuesday or Wednesday nights. So
>        if Charlton do manage a draw at Elland Road you'll be able to see
>        Leeds get beat at "The Valley".

>        Glenn Mackie

I'm afraid this isn't the case. As from last season, due to recommendations
from the police. All FA cup replays take place at least one and a half
weeks  AFTER  the first attempt at the tie. The police felt they didn't have
enough time to organise themselves for replays when they were on the
following Tuesday or Wednesday.

Tom.
From: cbar40@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: The best defender - DEFINITIVE.
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:06:37 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Dec15.152518.10812@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, mingos@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
> In article <Bz957M.Bxw@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, csi095@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Dibble) writes:
>> In article <Staalebj-141292112121@pc203.dhhalden.no> Staalebj@dhhalden.no (Mr. Bjerkeng) writes:
>>The best defender in the world is without a doubt RUNE BRATSETH
>> Cobblers............Des Walker is without doubt the best.
>> Dibble
>> 
> 
> Des is good but definitely the best. For example, Franco Baresi or Paul
> McGrath are better.
> 
> mike

And on and on and on.

The best defender in the world has got to be Gus Caeser of Airdrieonians.


Can we now consider this matter closed?

Dan
CBAR40@VAXA.STRATH.AC.UK
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From: bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring)
Subject: Re: The World's Best Football Players
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:35:05 GMT

mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:

>In article <1992Dec15.120555.27092@fwi.uva.nl>, bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>> mcsdc1jpb@dct.ac.uk (john bell) writes:
>> 
>>>In article <1992Dec10.150815.1126@gssec.bt.co.uk>, gmcfall@gssec.bt.co.uk (Graeme McFall) writes:
>>>> I am new to this newsgroup and apologise if this has been
>>>> done recently, but I would like to find out people's
>>>> opinion on the players they would pick to form a World's 
>>>> Best XI.
>> 
>>>ok then...here goes.....
>> 
>> And here it goes again:
>> 
>> Goal:         Hans van Breukelen (PSV, Holland)
>> Defense:  R:  Rijkaard (AC Milan, Holland) 
>>           C:  Adri van Tiggelen (PSV, Holland)
>>           C:  Ronald Koeman (Barcelona, Holland)
>>           L:  Maldini (AC Milan, Italy)
>> Midfield: R:  Goicoxea (Barcelona, Spain)
>>           C:  Baggio (Juventus, Italy)
>>           C:  Wouters (Bayern Munchen, Holland)
>>           L:  Lentini (AC Milan, Italy)
>> Attack:   C:  Voller (Olympique Marseille, Germany)
>>           C:  Romario (PSV, Brazil)

>                no Van Basten??!!

No. Though I think he's a very good player, he doesn't perform well every 
game. Especially when he plays for the Dutch national team, he isn't that
good as we know him. 
My choice for Romario is evident: he always scores goals, no matter if the
opponent is Zalgiris Vilnius or AC Milan. Then my choice for Voller: this
player has brilliant technique and is mentally very good for a team,        
especially when he plays with types of players like Romario, e.g. a pure
technical player. I tried to really make a best TEAM, not eleven names with
the 11 best players in the world. That explains my choice of Jan Wouters as
well. You need a man like him on the midfield, to recapture the ball. The  
other three midfielders are all pure technical players, so you just need a
little character in the team. 

>> 
>> Subs:     Marchegianni (goal, Torino, Italy)
>>           Popescu (defense, PSV, Rumania)

>            who??

Don't you know him? Georghe Popescu? He's the libero of PSV and of the Rumanian
national team. He's very big and strong, can shoot a ball just as easy with
his left or his right leg, is a magnificent header-specialist and also has
attacking capabilities. A very good all-round player he is. Strange that you
don't know him: he played a very good WC in '90 for Rumania!


>>           Moeller (midfield, Juventus, Germany)
>>           Bergkamp (attack, Ajax, Holland)
>>           Papin (attack, AC Milan, France)
>> 
>> Coach:    Johan Cruyff (Barcelona, Dutch)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> With this team, you'll win every game. I'm sure!
>> 

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From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Coventry 5 Liverpool 1
Date: 20 Dec 92 17:51:42 GMT
Organization: Wits University

The score says it all. Liverpool were thrashed by Coventry 5-1.
Mickey Quinn got a brace for Coventry. Redknapp scored a consolation
for Liverpool. Redknapp sent off in second half after 2nd bookable
offence.
 
Graeme Souness, we love you.
 
Hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee, hee.
From: lokes@selway.umt.edu (Lokeswara Rao)
Subject: Re: RULE CHANGES
Organization: University of Montana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:57:42 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.105241.10380@abo.fi> MLINDROOS@FINABO.ABO.FI (Marcus Lindroos INF) writes:
>In <1992Dec14.054305.52647@gmuvax.gmu.edu> 2005bj@gmuvax.gmu.edu writes:
>
>> SOCCER IS UNDOUBTEDLY THE MOST EXCITING, AND MOST ENTERTAINING SPORT IN 
>> THE WORLD.  THE NEW RULES IMPOSED BY FIFA IN THE PAST YEAR HAVE GREATLY
>> SHOULD BE STOPPED WHENEVER THERE IS AN INJURY, OR WHEN THE BALL GOES OUT
>> OF BOUNDS. THIS WOULD PREVENT PLAYERS FROM KILLING TIME OFF THE CLOCK
>---
>Hm, perhaps a "hybrid" system would work best? The effective clock could be
>stopped every time the goalie holds the ball in his hands, in case of injuries
>etc. and the game is over once this clock reaches 60 minutes. They could
>display both the standard 90min. time and the effective clock on the
>scoreboard, thus satisfying the traditionalists.
> 
>MARCU$ 
>

I hope soccer does not evolve into the present baseball which is sometimes
3 hours long.....   It will bore me as much as baseball does now....

Lokes
From: ta@smith.Aus.Sun.COM (Tim Addison)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Lineker   Vrs Van Basten
Date: 14 Dec 1992 07:32:23 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
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In article 7830@kielo.uta.fi, csfraw@raate.uta.fi (Elvis is still living) writes:
>
>
>So what is a "club international"............

I thought it was a porno mag :-)


> i think i`ve seen that mentioned
>many a times in the papers. Eg Ac Milan Vrs Liverpool is a club internatioanl
>and that does not make Liverpool an independent country. Maybe i should have
>added the club in the original posting




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From: MOORES@BNR.CA (Richard Moores)
Subject: Re: Rivals (or, who do ya hate?)
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:52:36 GMT

For Reds supporters, the most hated team MUST be Man United. During the
80's Man U  consistently were able to "put one over" the 'pool in spite of
our success in  the league. Incidents such as Whiteside breaking King
Kenny's cheek bone in the Jan '86 match at Anfield only added to the bitter
rivalry (and I am sure Man Utd fans can add incidents involving McMahon as
examples of why Man Utd fans seem to hate L'Pool).

It is strange really, because although Everton are our obvious main rivals
I think most LFC fans don't HATE Evertonians (So long as we continue to win
;-)) like they do Man Utd. I would also have to say that due to their
success in recent years, (Not to mention that they are cockney B*****ds ;-)
), Arsenal are certainly not well liked at Anfield either (The '87
Littlewoods cup final and THAT night in April '89. being among the primary
sources of the "hatred")

...Ian Rush

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