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From: khare@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Kathy Hare - DCS)
Subject: Sunday River
Keywords: anyone know about it
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:31:17 GMT

I was wondering if anyone could give me some info on a place a
called Sunday River in Maine. I saw a trail map in the new ski
canada magazine and it looks great.  Has anyone on the net been 
there and if so how is it? Specific things we would like to know 
are:
1. Are there any good mogal runs?
2. Are there lots of intermediate runs with no bumps?
3. Do the accomidations have kitchens and or is it expensive to eat there?
4. What kind of night life is there?
5. Basically is it worth the 9 hour drive I would be making to get there?
 
Any info would be greatly appreciated. 
We would also appreciate the same info on Sunshine Villiage in Banff.
Thanks in advance 
Kathy
From: shieh@austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: where's my ski magazine???
Date: 25 Aug 92 13:16:43 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin
Originator: shieh@racerx.austin.ibm.com


In article <1992Aug25.012251.14734@mercury.cair.du.edu>, rohilton@diana.cair.du.edu (RON HILTON ) writes:
> In article <1992Aug24.083234.1@ualr.edu> grspangler@ualr.edu writes:
> >what's this i hear about ski magazine being a quarterly now???  i found
> >powder, but when i asked about ski i was told to expect the first issue in
> >late september.  that doesn't sound right to me.
> >
> ^^I got mine 2 weeks ago.
> 
> 

Does anyone know where in Austin, TX I can get POWDER magazine?
I went to my local Bookstop and they gave me a puzzled look
and said, "duh".


			J. Shieh
			shieh@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com
-- 
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From: grubin@virga.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Huh ?? (was Re: Beginner's silly questions (!))
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:28:22 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Research Applications Program/NCAR, Boulder, CO



mike_r@nic.cerf.net (Mike Roberts) writes:
>Perhaps I missed something at my site .... Can someone explain how
>my original beginner's silly questions mutated into this ????

This is USENET.  Anything that doesn't begin as 'normal' and then
proceed to mutate is what you should be concerned about.

--
Rick Grubin     grubin@ncar.ucar.edu
From: ssh@snow.boulder.ibm.com (Steve Hultquist (347-3994))
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: long hot summer
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:16:17 GMT
	<1992Aug24.233348.20531@usho93.hou281.chevron.com>
	<1992Aug26.082026.1@ualr.edu>
Reply-To: <ssh@vnet.ibm.com>
Distribution: all
Organization: ISSC Boulder

In article <1992Aug26.082026.1@ualr.edu> grspangler@ualr.edu writes:

   (David Neal) writes:
   > The Good, the Rad and the Gnarly's not bad. Just fast forward
   > through all the parts of the geezer making funny faces
   > at the camera. 
   > 
   > 
   > In fact, all the Mike Stump movies I have seen were fine.

I think he means *Greg* Stump.

   > 
   > 
   > For that matter, so were the Warren Miller movies.

   does anyone know where i can rent some of these in little rock arkansas???

Little Rock?  Are there any skiers in Little Rock?  I suspect you might have to
actually *buy* them (they run about $20 if they're more than a year old).

I've heard good things about the RAP films, too (the Snow Zone series); has
anyone seen them?
--
Steve Hultquist                          Open systems and networking specialist
Steaming breath, glimpses of snow...                               ISSC Boulder
From: aab@progress.COM (Adam A. Backman)
Subject: Re: SNOWBOARDING: Burton
Organization: Progress Software Corp.
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:20:34 GMT

Gen.M.Kanai@dartmouth.edu (Gen M. Kanai) writes:

>Adam

>You wrote, "I currently ride an Asym Air with Plates
>and Raicle (sp) Snowboarders and I am happy but this WILL be my last
>Burton
>as I think their "new" boards are just another attempt to lock people
>into
>their stuff. "  

>How are those Raichle Boots?  I found myself a cool store who has
>backordered last year's bindings and so I got myself a pair, but I have
>yet to figure out what boot to get.  The Megaflex gets mixed reviews
>and I know the Top Rat is great, but I think I want a boot with a
>Vibram sole for Mountaineering or Randonee skiing and these boots might
>do doubletime.  I havent seen the new Nordica or Vendramini boots but
>they look good.  I think I might go with the Raichle or the Nordica
>because of their experience.  Please tell me what you think about your
>Raichles.
Gen -

The Raichle (thanks for the correct spelling) are great!  I looked at several
boots last year and these seemed to be the best.  I met a girl at Whistler
last year and she was sending away to europe for a pair because she could 
not get a pair locally.  They are comfortable and keep your feet warm so that
in itself is a good enough reason to buy them.  The Megaflex boots do not
fit me (their lasts don't match my feet) and lack a good tread for skating
and hiking.  Most of all try many types of boots (leave them on for a while
in the store) and select the one that is most comfortable.

-Adman

>arigato,
>Gen.kanai@Dartmouth.edu
From: pjinkila@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca (Paul Inkila)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Cross Country ski magazine recommendation for competative skiiers???
Keywords: cross country magazine
Date: 25 Aug 1992 17:28:13 GMT
Organization: Lakehead University; Thunder Bay, Ont


Does anyone have recommendations on a cross country skiing magazine
geared towards competative racing/touring?

Paul Inkila			pjinkila@flash.lakeheadu.ca
Lakehead University
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: gerber@solbourne.com (Andrew Gerber)
Subject: Re: Beginner's silly questions (!)
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:09:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.135231.13149@ncar.ucar.edu> chris@chinook.atd.ucar.edu writes:
>In the last 8 years
>Boulder has gone from a hip place to an overcrowded yuppieville.

well, it's probably not just the new people.  Hip people can
mutate into yuppies in less than 8 years.

People get older, have kids, and their values & priorities change.
-- 
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/ Andy Gerber		     / gerber@solbourne.com               /
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From: bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Sunday River
Date: 3 Sep 1992 12:49:21 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: grendle.think.com

In article <1992Sep2.213701.24772@news.media.mit.edu>, carltonj@media.mit.edu (Carlton J. Sparrell) writes:
|> st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
|> >bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz) writes:
|> >>
|> >>...I would reccomend Sugarloaf USA in Maine.  A few of the areas in 
|> >>Vermont are great too (not Killington)...
|> >>
|> >>Bob Schwartz
|> >
|> >NOT KILLINGTON???
|> >Granted there are other excellent ski areas in Vt., but How can you exclude
|> >Killington? 
|> >
|> > [Reasons deleted]
|> >
|> >There are areas that beat Killington in a few categories, but overall
|> >I've never seen anything that beats it.
|> >
|> >Even if it's not your absolute favorite, If you are an educated skier, it
|> >should be found somewhere  near the top of your list.
|> >
|> >							Todd S.
|> 
|> I guess with Killington, those who like it love it, those who don't
|> hate it.  I have been to most of the major (and minor) areas in ME,
|> NH, and Vermont, and would not put Killington anywhere near the top
|> of my list.  My feeling is that the mountain is unwieldy, making it
|> difficult to get from one part to another without using a series of
|> lifts, or crosscuts, or crowded trails.  While there are a large number of
|> trails at every ability level, none of the trails stuck in my mind as
|> being extra special like doc dempsey's or bubble-cuffer or the front
|> four at stowe.  I never found much of a lift line at Killington, but
|> often the congestion aon the trails made up for it.  All in all, I just
|> found the mountain too "industrial".
|> 
|> Unfortunately,  the trend in new england seems to be towards this type of
|> ski area.  Many of the recent changes at the loaf have destroyed some of
|> the personality of the mountain, and Sunday River has become a Killington
|> wannabe.  Almost all the eastern ski areas are increasing lift capacity
|> to the point where we wait in line on the slopes and not for the lift.
|> 
|> I look forward to trying Mad River Glen this year, from what I hear it
|> could be one of the last "corporate" mountains.
|> 
|> Cheers,
|> 
|> CJS

Ditto.
Ditto.
Ditto.

If you dont mind slow lifts (I dont, crowds are at the bottom instead of the top), like narrow, steep trails (I do), and dont mind rocks (part of the MRG experience - no snowmaking), you'll LOVE MRG!!  I highly recommend it.  The
lift ticket is the cheapest in NE and the skiing is the GREAT.  Lots of trees
and stuff to play in.

BTW dont you mean "non-corporate" mountains.

Bob Schwartz
Thinking Machines Corp.
Cambridge MA.
From: glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 21:40:21 GMT
Subject: Re: re: sunday river request
Organization: What, me? Organized?
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

In rec.skiing, cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd) writes:

> If I were thinking of driving 9 hours, though, I don't 
> think it would be to SR. 

 9 hours? Heck, jump on a plane, fly to Denver and drive on up to Vail!
 Not only will you get better skiing there but they'll welcome you with
 open arms.

 Ski vail.

 ..glen

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: dennisp@kpc.com (Dennis Preston)
Subject: Re: Beginner's silly questions (!)
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Inc, Santa Clara, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:03:48 GMT

If God had intended that Texans ski, BULLSH*T would be WHITE !!


>Regarding the first part above:  People get desperate on this group in the
>summer, don't they?
>
>   John Cooley
>   I have seen the snows of August, but it wuzn't enuf to ski on, despite
>   pictures in the Rocky.
Yea, It was, I did it.

Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: mzn@evolving.com (Marcia Neale)
Subject: Juggling balls -- where to get?
Summary:  need help finding them in Denver area
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:38:17 GMT
Distribution: co 
Organization: You're soaking in it.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Can anyone give me a lead on where to buy new juggling
balls in the Denver area?  My current set is starting
to fall apart.  

Thanks for any help,
Marcia

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303/969 3316                       hesitation without spirit.
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From: CDW10@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Juggling with PIN's
Date: 4 Sep 92 14:12:32 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

I can't resist replying to this one.

First of all, it's not a PIN number. It's a PIN.  Otherwise
you get  "Personal Identification Number number".  That has
a massive "cringe factor" for me, right up there along with
"LCD display".

Anyway, to more important matters.  Your CC number _cannot_
be juggled.   The "7" and the second "1" would have to land
at the same time,  so unless you're multiplexing, you can't
do it.  And in fact, it's the same for your PIN.  As a site
swap 0003 doesn't work, not least because the average isn't
an integer.

Finally, if you want to test a sequence to see if it can be
juggled, apply this simple test.  Add successive numbers to
the sequence,  then reduce the resulting numbers modulo the
length of the sequence.   If the result has all the numbers
exactly once, then the original can be juggled. For example

        0 0 0 3        5 2 5 1 5 0      5 2 5 1 4 1
        1 2 3 4        0 1 2 3 4 5      0 1 2 3 4 5
       ---------      -------------    -------------
        1 2 3 7        5 3 7 4 9 5      5 3 7 4 8 6
       ---------      -------------    -------------
        1 2 3 3        5 3 1 4 3 5      5 3 1 4 2 0
            ^ ^        ^ !     ! ^         Yes !!
          No.              No.

Note that this technique works whether you add 0, 1 etc, or
1, 2, etc, as illustrated here.
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: LEWBEL@BINAH.CC.BRANDEIS.EDU
Subject: kid's books about jug
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 09:51 EDT
X-Vms-To: IN%"juggling@moocow.cogsci.indiana.edu"

concerning request for kid's books about juggling:
my academic juggler column in JW about 1 1/2 years ago discusses:
"the clown of god" by Tomie de Paola (little kid's book)
"Haroun and the Sea of Stories" by Salmon Rushdie (suitable for teenagers, a
really fun quick book for anyone)
"Lord Valentine's castle" by Robert Silverberg (science fiction/fantasy).
Other books were discussed on the Net around that time also.

Arthur Lewbel    Lewbel@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: bday@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Billy Day)
Subject: Address Post for Juggling Capitol
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:47:31 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

     In response to the request for the address for the juggling store in  
Washington, D.C.'s Old Post Office, I thought I'd also say that it is a 
wonderful store.  I am only a three-ball juggler, but one of the owners 
was very helpful and courteous.  Check this one out if you're ever in town!!!

	The Pavilion of the Old Post Office
	1100 Pennsylvania Ave., N.W.
	Washington, D.C.
	                     20004

	Tel/Fax:  (202) 789-1799

	Enjoy, and blue skies!!!!!!!!!


Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: trebor@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Robert Harris)
Subject: Re: Hello hello hello hello hello!   :)
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 07:28:34 GMT

In article <9208310508.AA29415@lamar.ColoState.EDU> magic@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Tracy Baillie) writes:
>
>  YAHOO!  Network Newsgroup access for Juggling!
>
>  Well, I'm sure I'll be posting here frequently!  Happy trails my juggling
>friends from windy Colorado.
>
>       Travis Bear
>       Fort Collins Colorado
>       Magic@lamar.colostate.edu

Dear Mr. Bear (if that is your real name),

Please keep network traffic newsworthy, and noise to a minimum.
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From: tjones@moose.cs.indiana.edu (terry jones)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: jp23.exe is ok now
Date: 31 Aug 92 22:13:43 GMT
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington

In article <920831.140308.CDT.S092217@UMRVMA> S092217@UMRVMA.UMR.EDU writes:
>Terry has informed me that he has replaced the old jp23.exe with the
>one that doesn't require a co-processor (which I uploaded this morning).
>Look for it under pub/juggling/programs/ibm-pc/jugglepro-23.  Ach whata
>mouthful!

Actually it's in pub/juggling/programs/ibm-pc/jugglepro-2.3/jp23.exe
And also in the tar image and uuencoded in the ibm-pc-uuencoded directory.

Terry.
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Subject: Cartoon
Organization: IUPUI
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:13:57 GMT

The July 1992 issue of "Personal Systems" (p. 11) has a nice juggling
cartoon.  Two street vendors are standing around the corner from
each other:  one just juggling a shower, the other juggling a shower
of smaller people juggling a shower.
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Pure Passing
From: mathiega@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (G. A. Mathieson)
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:30:39 +1200
Distribution: world
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of Canterbury, New Zealand
Keywords: Correction 


Peter has corrected my error-packed description of 
3 person - 10 ball pure passing
***********************************************************
From mckenp2@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz Tue Sep  1 13:05:40 1992
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 13:05:33 NZS
From: mckenp2@cantua (Mckenzie Peter D O)
To: mathiega@elec
Subject: this and that
Content-Length: 2182

 Here is the message:
 The news article wasn't quite accurate as it stated that each
person passes to the other two. In reality we have only had success when:
   person A makes all his passes to person B,
   person B makes all his passes to person C,
   person C makes all his passes to person A.
   
   ie. the balls travel around the triangle in the same direction.
   
   The crucial thing that makes this pattern easy to learn is that the same
5 balls are always thrown by the right hands and the other five balls are
always thrown by the left hands.
   This means that you can easily practice half of the pattern. First put your
left hands behind your back. Persons A and B have 2 balls in their right
hands, person C has 1 ball. Person A makes a throw to person C,then person B
makes a throw to person A, then person C throws to person B. After that you 
just keep making throws! With any luck the balls will continue to flow from
A to C to B to A  etc.
   Once you can do 5 balls between the right hands then of course you can move
on to practicing just the left hands. Then its just (!?) a matter of putting
the two together.
   A noted earlier,all 10 balls travel in the same direction so you can choose
the easiest direction. Person A starts with 2 balls in each hand. Person B
has 2 in the left hand, 1 in the right. Person C has 2 in the right, 1 in the
left.
   A possible start is : throw 1 - Person A makes a right hand throw to person
                                   B's right hand.
                         throw 2 - Person B makes a left hand throw to person
			           C's left hand.
	                 throw 3 - Person C makes a right hand throw to person
			           A's right hand.
		         throw 4 - Person A makes a left hand throw to person
			           B's left hand.
	                 then just go with the flow ...
				   
 Hope this is of some use. Have fun, let me know how you get on.
                
		Cheers, Peter.
                 
			      
			      
			      


               

Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: yking@cs.ubc.ca (Yossarian Yggy King)
Subject: Re: 1234567
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 17:09:41 GMT

In article <920822.095130.CDT.S092217@UMRVMA> S092217@UMRVMA.UMR.EDU writes:
>I tried this siteswap some time ago and after about half an hour of
>frustration I gave up.  I did make some progress though..  it is NOT
>an impossible pattern to learn--it just takes a lot of practice.  I
>suggest getting really good at 12345 first.  This is a 3-ball pattern.
>
>I really like Yggy King's SiteSwap Scribe.

	thanks!

>			  I got it to print out some
>of my favorite siteswaps: 441, 45141, 534, 645, 756, 978, and 633.  It
>worked just fine.  The documentation does have some errors, however.
>The -p option is not only unnecessary but it doesn't work either.  I
>just leave it out entirely.  A 5-ball shower is not a 51.  That is a
>3-ball shower.   The 5-ball shower is 91.

The documentation was, I now realize, written in a fit of madness, and
I apologize for the errors in the pattern descriptions. As to the -p
option, it is unnecessary if there is just one pattern, but I'm a
little surprised to hear that it doesn't work ... it works for me!
	For example:
		% sss -p3 4 4 1 -p3 4 5 1 4 1 -out pattern.ps

does not one, but *two* of Ed'd favourite patterns! (3 repetitions
each) If anyone has problems, let me know what machine/printer you're
using and a description of the problem and I'll attempt to figure out
what might be going on.  (Or rather, consult the plentiful supply of
local gurus.)

>-Ed Carstens
>Creator of JugglePro

-Yggy King
Creator of Site Swap Scribe (tee hee)
-- 
Yggy King	| "Outside of a dog, a book is a person's best friend;	
UBC Comp Sci	|     inside of a dog, it's too dark to read."
B.C., Canada	|		    --Groucho Marx
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: "steven ragatz" <ragatzs@tope.cs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Come play with us!
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 08:46:53 -0500

**************************************************


Everyone is invited to attend the "Etc." studio warming
on Saturday, Sept. 11 in Bloomington IN!

If you can't come on this day, you may take a rain check
and stop by whenever you are through the area.

We have plenty of crash space and a nice NEW building
for juggling.  Call in advance and let me know when
you are coming.  (We have plenty of toys if you want 
to use any of our stuff.)

We will have general juggling stuff on all afternoon
on the 11th and "public visitation" between 2:00 and 4:00.

Stop by if you can!  We would love to see you!



***************************************************

That sounds a little too impressive... let me put it 
another way...

The Experimental Theater Circus (Etc.) has finally finished
building their studio.  It is a converted two story garage that
has been finished with a loft.  The clearance is about 17 feet
and the workspace is 26 feet by 24 feet.  Video and sound
equipment are available.  We also have rigging for a spotting
belt and single trap.  No mirrors yet, but we will be getting
mirrors and a dance bar as soon as some more $$ become available.  
We are going to use the facilities
to develop our work but we will not occupy the studio 24 hours
each day (23 tops).  It is a nice place to get away and focus
on performance work.  Fritz, Lisa and I would like to invite
anyone who wants to come visit and play in the new juggling
space.  The official "studio warming" is on the 11th.  Let
us know if you are going to be in the area!

-	Steve
RSVP
From: IQTI400@INDYCMS.IUPUI.EDU (macphil)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Re: Combining balancing with juggling?
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:41:36 GMT
Organization: IUPUI

In article <92239.184228NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
<NAYLORD@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
 
>I've been trying to learn to juggle while balancing
>a club on my chin and I haven't been having lot of success.
>(Although, I must admit that I haven't put very many hours
>into it, _yet_.) Does anyone out there have some helpful tips?
>
>Here's what I've been doing so far: First, I balance the club.
 
>I can juggle three clubs with my eyes closed and I
>can balance a club on my chin with almost no _apparent_
>effort. Why is this combination trick (with my eyes open)
>sooo %#?!ing difficult?
 
I can't speak as a doer, only as an observer.  When watching
Anthony juggle @ St. Louis last year I noticed the following
during the times he was bouncing a ball on his head & juggling:
no matter what happened, the ball was to continue bouncing.  It
seemed to have to be a constant.  Whether one or two balls dropped
and he switched to a lesser pattern or whether the pattern disintegrated
and he let everything fall, the ball had to continue bouncing.
 
I think it sounds ok that it takes no effort to balance the club, but
what about regardless of what else you are doing or what is going
on around you?  I sounds as though the balance works when you are
focusing on it but not when you have to divert any attention away
from it.