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From: Jack.Still@p3.f211.n270.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Still)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: searching
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 13:54:33 -0800

In a message on <Jan 04 21:29>, Thomas Pellowski of 1:275/69 writes:

 TP> Well, it may help a littel if you knew her name...Regina Franchi.
 TP>         
 TP>                                         T. Pellowski

This is a few months old.  Hope it helps somewhat.


I just got it a couple of days ago (10-13-92).  It is as follows:
AMSAN Regina M. Franchi
VFA 125 Framp
NAS LeMoore
LeMoore, California 93426 
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From: Steve.Sharp@f207.n714.z3.fidonet.org (Steve Sharp)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: tv trivia
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 23:52:44 -0800

PV> Hi Steve:
PV> Hey I wondering if you would be interested in 
PV> trading patches with me..
PV> I never trading patches,with a firemen from  
PV> Sydney,Australia  before.
PV> And this would be the first for me,and it 
PV> would an honor. If I could do
PV> just that ,to have a patch from 
PV> Sydney,Australia included in my patch
PV> collection!!

Sure Paul, got some new shirts issued the other day, so can cut the
patches  
from the old ones, I'll stick a couple in the Post later next week
(around  
the 15th).

Where about's is Lanesboro in relation to Fall River? Fall River the
only  
place I've stayed in MA. (On a bloody great old battleship out in the
River  
underneath the bridge!) 

Cheers!

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From: Michael.Smith@f102.n2604.z1.fidonet.org (Michael Smith)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Info. On Dive Team
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 15:23:00 -0800

*Don Trout was talking about INFO. ON DIVE TEAM to All*
*on stardate 01-05-93  20:30*

 DT> To All Fire Departments & EMS Personnel,
 DT> Any organization that has a Underwater Search & Recovery Team
 DT> please contact myself or Tom Barry at the Keasbey Fire Dept.
 DT> We are interested in starting up a dive team and am looking for
 DT> information.
 DT> Contact us at FD 1-908-738-4343
 DT> Or the Cop Shop BBS sysop.


Oakland (Bergen County, NJ) has a dive team.  You can contact their
dive
Captain, Tony Smid, c/o Oakland Vol. FD, 25 Yawpo Ave, Oakland, NJ,
07436.  I'm sure Tony'd be glad to help you out.

Regards,
        Mike
-Oakland VFD, Company 2, working "The Hill."

... To err is human, to flip a car 6 times and kill someone, is DRUNK
___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12

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From: George.Vaisey@f330.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (George Vaisey)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Looking for Vendor of coffe mugs for Dept. 50th Anniversery
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 12:11:00 -0800

Scott,
        Galls Magazine Has mugs.  Their number is 1-800-477-7766.



                George Vaisey

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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 18:20:32 -0500
From:         AIRBORNE THE FIREMAN IS BACK <CDUNBAR@UNTVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Fire Extinguishers

With many of these smaller fire extinguishers on the market for home use,
buying a new extinguisher usually costs far less than recharging the old one.

By the way...  I had posted earlier that I had a Kidde extinguisher which had
leaked all of the propellant out, and that I had broken the top off and used
the agent by itself.  I don't really advise this because
1) The stem or valve might be clogged
2) The pressure indicator might be jammed or otherwise not functional
3) The agent might have solidified

In all cases, pressure could still be in the body of the extinguisher.  If you
were to break off the stem of the extinguisher with unknown pressure in the
extinguisher, the extinguisher could explode and become a projectile or a bomb,
either way, possibly causing injury or death.  So, DON'T BREAK OF THE NECK!
I was lucky there WAS NO pressure in the extinguisher, or I may not have
fingers to type with now.

If you have problems with your fire extinguishers, write to the company and get
a replacement or a refund.  Don't play it stupid like I did, you might get hurt.
Christophe
From: David.Stark@f322.n2613.z1.fidonet.org (David Stark)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: scanner's and a legal
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 18:57:00 -0800

 > Thanks for the additional info.. OBTW, do you know which Parts
contain these
 > restrictions now? Is it Part 1? And is the ECPA available online
 > anywhere?

    ECPA is not an FCC regulation.  It is Public Law 97-259 and can be
found under Title 18 of the United States Code, Sections 2510 through
2520. Discussions of ECPA and other scanner related issues are welcome
in the Fidonet SCANRADIO echo.  It is available from the backbone.

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From: Warren.Chou@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Warren Chou)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: False alarms
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 03:22:00 -0800

-> Here at West Virginia University, they have installed invisible,
inde
->  alarm boxes in some of the more false alarm prone residence halls &
->  Usually when a false comes in late at night, the Resident Directors
->  students to enter only through certain doors, checking each of them
->  hand held black light scanner. The ink will show on the person who
p
->  alarm, & is distributed well enough that it is next to impossible
to
->  spray. (It'll get on their clothing, hands, under fingernails, etc)
->  caught several people this way, and each levied a decent fine of
$10
->  so. It has also proven to cut our false alarms by a good amount.
Ano
->  tactic we use is to bring in police dogs, with the intent to search
->  building for victims. These dogs are also well known for their drug
->  capabilities. This also has seemed to work decently well.
->
Gee.  How expensive is the program?
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From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: tv trivia
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 07:32:00 -0800

On <31 Dec, 09:49>, Steve Sharp wrote to Warren Chou :

SS> WC> -> Code 3 isn't here (yet), however I saw an
SS> WC> -> interview with Code 3's
SS> WC> -> producer/director when he was out here and
SS> WC> -> he implied that some Austr
SS> WC> -> footage would be used in upcoming episodes.
SS> WC>
SS> WC> This past Saturday I saw Code 3 with some
SS> WC> footage from Australia.  I
SS> WC> don't remember the city, but they were
SS> WC> featuring the high angle rescue
SS> WC> team rescuing two men from a broken
SS> WC> scaffolding 30 stories in the air.
SS>
SS> G'Day Warren, that footage happened in Melbourne, Victoria about 12
SS> months back I guess.
SS>
SS> The Melbourne Fire Brigades Rescue Unit carried out the job - not a
bad
SS> effort at all!
SS>
Hi Steve:
Hey I wondering if you would be interested in trading patches with me..
I never trading patches,with a firemen from  Sydney,Australia  before.
And this would be the first for me,and it would an honor. If I could do
just that ,to have a patch from Sydney,Australia included in my patch
collection!!

Here's my Self Address:
Paul Vallone
P.o. Box 249
Lanesboro,Ma
01237..
                   Later Mate!

                        Paul Vallone
                        Lanesboro Vol Fire Dept
                        Lanesboro,Mass  
 
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From: Ed.McCormick@f150.n2600.z1.fidonet.org (Ed McCormick)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: Fallen brother
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 11:16:22 -0800

 -=> Quoting Paul Rehman Jr. to All <=-

 PRJ> After treatment on the scene by Liverpool Township's EMTs and
 PRJ> Paramedics from Medina Life Support Team, Chief Schumacher was
 PRJ> transported to Medina General Hospital, where he was pronounced
dead
 PRJ> at 0710. 
 PRJ> It saddens me to post this to the echo as I have worked in the
past
 PRJ> with Chief Schumacher on mutual aid calls here in Medina County. 
He
 PRJ> LIVERPOOL TOWNSHIP FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT
 PRJ> P.O. BOX 318
 PRJ> VALLEY CITY, OHIO  44280


        The Fire service of the State of Delaware offers its sympathy
        to the family, Officers and Members of the Liverpool Township
        Fire and Rescue Department.

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From: Chuck.Sanders@f16.n128.z1.fidonet.org (Chuck Sanders)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Firefighter Needs Help
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 10:59:18 -0800

   Have no problem with your request.  The one thing I do have a problem
with is getting business cards, get well card and etc. so that some one
can get intoa record book.

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From: Jack.Still@p3.f211.n270.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Still)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Fire Expo
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 21:06:50 -0800

Mark these dates on your calendar

Mark these dates on your calendar

The 1990 Fire EXPO that was held in Lancaster PA and in years past will
be held in the Pennsylvania Farm Show Complex this year again, May 14,
Friday from 10:00 a.m. to 6 p.m., May 15, Saturday from 10:00 a.m. to 6
p.m. and Saturday the 16th from 10:00 a.m. to 4 p.m., 1993.  The gates
will close one hour prior to closing time.  Admission, adults $5.00,
children 6-12 $1.50 and children 5 and under free.  Advanced tickets
available through May 7, 1993 by sending check or money order and SASE
to EXPO 93, 940 Village Road, Lancaster, PA 17602.   The PA Farm Show
Complex is just off of I-81 on Cameron Street in Harrisburg, PA.  The
EXPO is hosted by the Lancaster County, County Firemen's Association. 
Over 350 exhibitors Displaying in 600 booths and spaces and over 100
emergency vehicles will be on hand to provide for your needs and
services.  Write to Fire EXPO 93, 940 Village Road, Lancaster, PA 17602,
Phone 717-464-3291.  For information about motels and eating places
contact the Harrisburg Tourist & Convention Bureau, P. O. Box 969,
Harrisburg, PA 17108.  Phone 717-232-4121.
Mark these dates on your calendar.

	Subscribe to The Pennsylvania Fireman.  Published monthly.  P.O. Box
685, Lancaster, PA  17603.  1 year $5.75  3 years $15.50.

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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:14:00 -0800
From:         SYSMGR@CBOS.UC.EDU
Subject:      Recipient mailbox is full. Returning message to sender

In article <traurig-070193165644@skydvr.sanders.lockheed.com>
traurig@ncavax.decnet.lockheed.com (Scott Traurig) writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.145334.17101@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, rdale@nyx.cs.du.edu
>(Robert P Dale) wrote:

>>It seems that helicopters in Canada "do not have
>> altimeters, devices which tell the pilot how high he is off
>> of the ground" and would enable the helicopter to "land on runways
>> even if weather conditions prevented the pilot from seeing the
>> ground."  Wow.  Those are some altimeters...
[deleted]
>     Of course, none of this explains why the Canadian helo didn't land.

Is it possible that the situation was that there was considerable loose
snow in the area and the helo pilot was concerned with "white-out"?
From: Thomas.Pellowski@f69.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Thomas Pellowski)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: searching
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 21:25:00 -0800

i am trying to find a friend of mine...last time I heard from hear she
was finnishing up her EMT-P up in Mass. She used to work for Cambride,
Mass Fire/Rescue.
If anyone knows her or has heard of what she is doing it would be much
appreciated.
                                        Thanks in Advance
                                          T. Pellowski
                                      Captain, EMT-P
                                       Oceana Crash/Fire/Rescue

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From: Tracy.Neal@f459.n107.z1.fidonet.org (Tracy Neal)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: 911 SOP'S HELP!!!!
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 1993 17:07:02 -0800

I am looking for any help or information on 911 sop's...or maybe a copy
of a current sop.. Our County is in the process of going 911 and I have
been left with the responsibility (burden) of writing to sop's. Any
help
would be apprec.  My address is :  P.O.Box 716
                                   Wrens,Georgia  30833-0716
thanks in advance


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From: Paul.Vallone@f233.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Vallone)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Re: tv trivia
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 13:32:00 -0800

SS> PV> Hi Steve:
SS> PV> Hey I wondering if you would be interested in
SS> PV> trading patches with me..
SS> PV> I never trading patches,with a firemen from
SS> PV> Sydney,Australia  before.
SS> PV> And this would be the first for me,and it
SS> PV> would an honor. If I could do
SS> PV> just that ,to have a patch from
SS> PV> Sydney,Australia included in my patch
SS> PV> collection!!
SS>
SS> Sure Paul, got some new shirts issued the other day, so can cut the
SS> patches from the old ones, I'll stick a couple in the Post later
next
SS> week (around the 15th).
SS>
SS> Where about's is Lanesboro in relation to Fall River? Fall River the
only
SS> place I've stayed in MA. (On a bloody great old battleship out in
the
SS> River underneath the bridge!)
SS>
SS> Cheers!
Hi Steve:
Yah Lanesboro is located in Berkshire County. By the way Steve ,could
you
give me your self address,in your next reply.. Speaking of replies!
Here's mind!

Self Address:
Paul Vallone
P.o. Box 249
Lanesboro,Ma 01237

                            Thanks
                             Paul..  
 
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From: Mark.Caravasos@f24.n277.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Caravasos)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: f350 7L diesel performance 
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:49:00 -0800

TS>The type is pre-determined :-( as a Wheel Coach on a Ford F350
TS>with the 7.
TS>climb
TS>experience
TS>with this chassis and engine? and can you relate your
TS>experience?
Ted,
    One service I work for has several of these units (Ford w/ 7.3
Diesel)
they run ok, but are dogs on long haul hills. The FD I work for has a
Ford 350
 Pierce Mini Pumper with the 7.3, but we added an aftermarket Banks
 turbocharger unit to it.  The turbo makes all the difference in the
world. They
 aren't cheap, around $2000 or so, but the power difference is unreal.
Right now
 the truck weighs in about 6 1/2 tons (loaded), & it'll pull most of our
4 lane
 hills at 65+. Side streets it'll do 30 or better, depending on the run
you get
 for it.  It's too bad you can't get the 460 ci. gas motors anymore, but
it's my
 understanding that all the epa regs caused it's demise. (:-(

Mark Caravasos  Morgantown FD, Morgantown, WV


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From: Paul.Rehman.Jr.@f2.n157.z1.fidonet.org (Paul Rehman Jr.)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Fallen brother
Date: Sat, 02 Jan 1993 20:38:00 -0800

***********************************************************************
NEWS RELEASE    NEWS RELEASE   NEWS RELEASE  NEWS RELEASE  NEWS RELEASE
***********************************************************************
December 31,1992

Liverpool Township Fire and Rescue

At Approximately 0336 on December 31, 1992, Liverpool Township Fire and
Rescue Department personnel responded to a call on Grafton Road, west of
Station Road, in northwest Liverpool Township.  A passerby had reported
to 911 that a car was submerged in the creek at that location.

Upon arrival, the Fire Department, which has a certified dive-rescue
team, put a diver into the high water to check for victims.  While
searching, one of the divers, Assistant Chief Art Schumacher became
entrapped under the car and in the bridge culvert.  It took the two
other divers about 30 minutes to rescue Chief Schumacher.

After treatment on the scene by Liverpool Township's EMTs and Paramedics
from Medina Life Support Team, Chief Schumacher was transported to
Medina General Hospital, where he was pronounced dead at 0710.

*************************************************************************** ***************************************************************************

It saddens me to post this to the echo as I have worked in the past with
Chief Schumacher on mutual aid calls here in Medina County.  He was a
dedicated member of his department as well as a well loved individual. 
Services will be held on Sunday, January 3, 1993.  Notes and cards
should be forwarded to the:

                 LIVERPOOL TOWNSHIP FIRE AND RESCUE DEPARTMENT
                                  P.O. BOX 318
                            VALLEY CITY, OHIO  44280
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From: Mark.Caravasos@f24.n277.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Caravasos)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Physical Agility Test
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:27:01 -0800

MS>One of the tests that I have to pass is a physical agility test.
MS>Can
MS>anyone elaborate on what that might entail?

Michael,
    Our Dept's physical agility test includes the following:

Run 1.5 miles in under 12 minutes.
Carry a 50 lb. weight 100 ft.
Walk 50 ft. on a 4" beam, turn around, and return. (While carrying 2
sections
 of 1 1/2" hose)
25 sit ups
15 overhand chinups
A bending drill.(Hard to explain, You bend at the waist while picking up
&
 moving objects, you cannot move your feet, tests flexibility)
Stress test
Body fat measurement
climbing the aerial ladder to a height of 85'

Mark Caravasos, Morgantown FD, Morgantown, WV


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From: georgeb@ur.msstate.edu
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: re: Private messages and flames
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:50:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.1993Jan4.175043.23301
Reply-To: georgeb@ur.msstate.edu
Organization: Mississippi State University

One problem with copious personal messages to the group is that readers who
get the group through commercial services such as CompuServe pay for each
and every message received.
From: Warren.Chou@f17.n275.z1.fidonet.org (Warren Chou)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: Philadelphia fire films
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 1993 03:23:00 -0800

-> Philadelphia Fire Films has always strived in promoting the
Philadelp
-> Fire Department through our filming, and now with CODE 3, it will be
-> done nationally.
-> As is our motto, "Promoting the Fire Service through Photography".

Is there any relation between you and the Philadelphia Fire Dept.? 
I.E.
are you a part of the investigation team and use your photographs and
such as promotions?
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From: Mark.Caravasos@f24.n277.z1.fidonet.org (Mark Caravasos)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: False alarms
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 23:03:01 -0800

JS>Interesting constitutional issues here.  I'm not sure about
JS>having dogs
JS>sniff dorm rooms at a University (without a warrant), or

Jeff,
    The dogs don't do any actual detection. They are brought in on the
premise
 that they would be used to search for victims. The dogs never enter
the
 building, nor do they even get out of the officers vehicle. Just the
sight of
 them causes those that have something to hide to think twice keeping
something
 they don't want found in the dorms. They don't know if the dogs are
going to
 engage in a search or not. Just a touch of a FD "Drug awareness"
program. Of
 course it's illegal to conduct a search & seizure without a warrant,
but it's
 not illegal for the FD to search rooms of a building where an alarm is
 sounding, on the pretense of victim removal, or in the search for the
alarm
 cause. Anything seen while a search is taking place could be relayed to
a
 police officer, who could then aquire a search warrant for that
particular
 room or occupant, depending on what might be found. If a dorm room was
opened,
 & illegal items were within plain view from outside the door in the
hallway,
 the officer then has the right to enter said room & seize the illegal
item.
 Arrest warrants could also then be issued for the occupant(s), for
possession.
 All this & no dogs needed.

Mark Caravasos Morgantown FD, Morgantown, WV


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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: bparrish@rose.hp.com (Bill Parrish)
Subject: Re: Index finger BP cuffs
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:35:15 GMT
Organization: HP - Systems Technology Division
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

I use one of these... and you can get wildly varying readings depending on
the HEIGHT at which it is held.  What I did for myself, was got a nurse
to do my bp with a mercury manometer, and then adjusted the height I used
(sitting down) to measure my blood pressure.  (For me, my arm needs to be at
just about a 90% angle to my body for the reading to be right).  The higher
up you hold the thing, the lower the bp reads.  At a particular position,
I found the readings to be much more constant.  The instructions tell you
to hold it "at heart level" , but at that level, the results I get are
lower (by 10 points or so) than I get at a 90% angle (which I guess is
more like stomach level on me... but then again I've never had anantomy
to really know where all those gooey things are  :-).  

Bill Parrish
KM6KV
From: Rick.Rexroat@f701.n130.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Rexroat)
Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
Subject: AAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 1993 10:52:17 -0800

     Just want to vent my frustrations at the Texas Department of
Health!!!
I took my ParaMedic state test on December 15, 1992 and still don't have
my results!  Austin says the computer is down.
     When I took my state test for TCLEOSE, they put my test through the
scantron in Dallas and told me I passed in less than 1 hour!  Why the
difference, for Pete's sake (and mine)?

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Newsgroups: misc.emerg-services
From: jung@base.bellcore.com (Eric Jung)
Subject: Re:      EMS Software
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 17:19:51 GMT

earler,  Howard Berkis - CC28 <CC28@IONA.BITNET> writes:
|> My VAC is finally deciding to automate.
|> 
|> We are getting a computer to maintain records and what not.

I'm in the process of doing the same.  We'd like to keep treasury info,
membership info, and some donor info in a database.  Possibly, we'll
track patient name and address, but not the whole call sheet.  It's 
hard enough to get our volunteers to fill out a proper call sheet, let
alone type it into a computer.  (We're a vol. first aid squad with
about 80 members and 2500 calls/year).

I've started by getting JEMS magazine and writing to all the computer
system advertisers.  I don't know if any will meet our needs, but it
seemed like a good place to start.  As treasurer, I'm considering 
using Quicken for our money.  We may end up home-brewing the other
databases we need because they're not too complicated.

Anyone who has hints, I'd like to hear them too.

Good luck!
-- 
Eric C. Jung                    Bellcore Advanced Software Environment
(908) 699-4684                  444 Hoes Lane  RRC 1S-222
jung@base.bellcore.com          Piscataway, NJ  08854