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From: bear@nuc.anu.edu.au (Bernhard Fabricius)
Subject: Apple LaserWriter IIg on Ethernet with DECprint and LanWORKS ?
Keywords: LaserWriter IIg, Ethernet, DECprint, LanWORKS
Reply-To: BEAR@NUC.ANU.EDU.AU
Organization: Nuclear Physics, ANU
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 06:24:12 GMT


Hi there,

	does anyone have any experience (good or otherwise) with using
	an Ethernet (EtherTalk) connected Apple LaserWriter IIg from
	DEC CPS (DECprint Printing Services for VMS/whatever it is
	called these days) ?

	Situation:
	----------
	VAXcluster running VMS V5.0
	LanWORKS (MSA) for Macintosh V1.0 (soon to be upgraded to 1.1)
	DECprint Printing Services V4.0

	We want to be able to use the xxxx-to-PS translators in DECprint,
	so a simple MSA queue is just not good enough.
	For the sake of speed, I'd rather have the LaserWriter on the
	EtherNet.
	Does one have to do hideous things to modules in the CPS device
	control library (like removing references to non-existing
	multiple LN0xR input trays) ?
	Will it work ?

Thanks in advance

Bernhard
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From: moeller@gwdgv1.dnet.gwdg.de ("GWDGV1::MOELLER")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: re: IDRC actual performance
Date: 24 Jul 92 09:13:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Robert Venard (no return address, no .sig) asks:
> Is there anyone out there who uses 3480-type cartridge tape backup systems
> which implement the IDRC compression algorithm? If so, do you have any
> information on how much increased storage capacity you are seeing with the
> IDRC vs the same backups without IDRC enabled?
>[...]

Some time ago I converted our 9000/210's image backups to use
/compaction (IDRC), so I could estimate the effect of IDRC.

Without IDRC, I've seen 2.1 Mbyte of disk data (derived from DISK QUOTA)
backup up upon 11 TA90 cartridges, amounting to about 190 MByte/TA90 net.
With IDRC (and some weeks later), the same disks (still holding 2.1 Mbytes)
took 7 cartridges, amounting to about 300 Mbyte/TA90.
On another volume set with similar usage, I've seen 2
MByte backed up w/IDRC upon 6 TA90's, resulting in about 340 MByte/TA90.
These are "user disks", i.e. no really big files.
BACKUP's block size was 32256 throughout.
Tape usage has not varied much since then, so I assume that
the compression factor of about 1.8 is a good estimate for
general BACKUPs.

BTW, I've seen /compacted tapes holding more than 340 MBytes;
as an extreme case, once I tried out HSC (physical) backup on
a *new* RA90 disk (all blocks zeroed out) and indeed, it would
all fit on a single cartridge!

Wolfgang J. Moeller, GWDG, D-3400 Goettingen, F.R.Germany | Disclaimer ...
PSI%(0262)45050352008::MOELLER      Phone: +49 551 201516 | No claim intended!
Internet: moeller@gwdgv1.dnet.gwdg.de   | This space intentionally left blank.
From: MCMAHON@AC.GRIN.EDU ("McMahon,Brian D")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: wanted: help w/ EDIT
Date: 28 Jul 92 15:24:22 GMT
Organization: The Internet

>There's a user of my system who'd like to be able to use the NUMERIC
>KEYPAD MODE to key in data.  I pointed out that she could use the
>INSERT mode to accomplish this, but that's not what she wants.  She
>wants to be able to see all 80 characters on the screen at one time
>and not have the data lines wrap.

How about this:

* SET NOKEYPAD
* CHANGE

This gets you full-screen NOKEYPAD mode.  After an "I" insert command, you
can use the numeric keypad to your heart's content.  Arrow keys will not
work, but the Nokeypad subcommands are all there.

I suppose you could use EVE, but where's the fun in that?  8-)

Brian McMahon (BDM13)    <MCMAHON@GRIN1.BITNET>    <MCMAHON@AC.GRIN.EDU>
Postmaster / Acad. Software Support   Grinnell College Computer Services
Grinnell, Iowa 50112 USA   Voice: +1 515 269 4901   Fax: +1 515 269 4936
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Subject: Re: Am I in SYLOGIN?
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:08:07 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.113259.1@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu>, ccdk001@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu writes:
>Anyone know of a simple, fairly fullproof way to determine if an image
>is being run from SYLOGIN.COM or some other known place (step) during
>process creation?
>
>I have an installed privileged application that I want executed during the
>login process, but I don't want users to be able to execute it directly.
>It does "things" based on an assumed state of that process/environment at
>that time particular time.  Allowing users to change their environment
>(logical names, devices, etc.) and then rerunning this image could be
>a problem in some instances.
>
>Grabing the procedure depth/name from the clidata doesn't seem fullproof
>enough.

Certainly not, unless you have stuff in SYS$SYLOGIN: that is guaranteed to put
the process back in the known state before the image is run.

>Checking the imagecount in the process header could work, but
>I dunno..  Patching loginout (again!) is also too messy.    I'd appreciate
>any ideas/strategies.

How about having the image check for a known executive-mode logical name in the
job table?  If it finds the logical name, it assumes it's already been run and
exits.  If it doesn't find it, it creates it, does whatever it's supposed to
do, and exits.  For this to be effective, you'd have to set the DISCTLY flag in
the UAF for all the accounts, and have SYS$SYLOGIN set NOCONTROL=Y after
running the image.
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Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Convert VMS condition value to errno code.
From: rolff@scotty.eurokom.ie (Anders Rolff)
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:07:21 CET
Reply-To: rolff@scotty.eurokom.ie
Distribution: world
Organization: EuroKom conferencing services
Nntp-Posting-User: rolff


Hello!

Is there a function in the VAXC-library that converts a VMS condition
value the corresponding errno value?

Thanks,

Anders.
From: CZIWKGA@VMSFE.ULCC.AC.UK ("Kevin Ashley, Systems Development, ULCC")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: How to use Micro Tech 8500 Exabytes drives in 8200 mode ?
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:15:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

We have two Exabyte drives on our systems here bought through Micro Technology.
The older one is on a Microvax II, and can write up to 2.2GB per tape - I
think this is referred to as an 8200 by some suppliers. The other drive
is on a Microvax 3600 and supports writing tapes at higher density,
giving about 4.5GB per tape. I think this is also known as an 8500.

We have established that the new drive can happily read low density (i.e.
2.2GB) tapes written in the other drive. However, Micro Technology have
assured us that it can also write tapes at low density. This would be
useful for us for moving data back to the Microvax II. However, we can't
find out how to do this. Any attempt to write/initialize a tape always
ends up with it being high density.

It may be useful to know that SHOW DEVICE reports the tape as being
a TU81. That is, Micro Technology's interface makes it look like a standard
drive, so there is no special driver involved.

Responses to me as usual if you have them, and I will summarise to the list.
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From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Subject: Re: Q: VAX/VMS optimized BLAS routines?
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:42:04 GMT


In article <DA.92Jul22132819@xor.cis.Brown.EDU>,
da@xor.cis.Brown.EDU (David Ascher) writes:
|>
|>I'm looking for fast BLAS routines to use on a VAX 6000 w/ vector
|>processor.  I thought that they'd be in the math library, but i can't
|>seem to find anything about BLAS routines in the master index.
|>
|>Pointers anyone?  Should I just use sciport and compile as optimized
|>as I can?  Seems like there should be a vax-specific version
|>somewhere..

The BLAS routines are ducomented in the "RTL Mathematics (MTH$) Manual.
The edition of that manual that I have (June 1990, for VMS V5.4) has the
BLAS routines listed.

--PSW
From: coar@Nephi.Enet.DEC.Com (Rodent of Unusual Size)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: LMF not starting on bootup
Summary: Welcome to single-user mode!
Keywords: VMS, bootstrap, startup
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:28:37 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp.
Organisation: Employed by (*NOT* speaker for) DEC, Boxborough, MA, U.S.A.


In article <1992Jul21.175556.29456@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, terryf@argus.lpl.arizona.edu (Terry Forrester) writes...
>
>I have encoutered a strange problem ocurring on system startup, that I
>hope someone can shed some light on. After upgrading TGV Multinet from 
>version 3.0 to 3.1, my system (a MicroVax II, running VMS 5.4-3) was 
>rebooted, and fairly early in the boot process, the following messages 
>appear:
> 
>   %LICENSE-I-NOT_STARTED, License management facility is not started
>   %LOGIN-S-LOGOPRCON, login allowed from console
> 
>followed by a DCL prompt.

    This generally indicates that the startup file is set to OPA0: rather than
    SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP.COM.  To verify, use SYSBOOT (by booting
    conversationally) or SYSGEN (once the system is up) to

     SYSBOOT>  SHOW /STARTUP

    I'm pretty sure it will say something like

       Startup command file = OPA0:

    To change this, use SYSGEN or SYSBOOT again to

     SYSBOOT>  SET /STARTUP SYS$SYSTEM:STARTUP.COM

    If you use SYSGEN, bracket this with USE CURRENT and WRITE CURRENT
    commands.

    I have no idea how this could have happened if some sentient didn't type
    the commands; certainly, no LP installation should have done this..

>/* Terry Forrester                   terryf@arizona.edu    */

    #ken    :-)}	Jeratol the Chaotic

Coar@Nephi.Enet.DEC.Com	 | All opinions herein contained, stated or implied,
Coar@DECUS.Org		 | are solely those of the author.  And he's fullovem.
Coar@Eisner.DECUS.Org	 | `... it was mine art, ... that made gape the pine 
Massachusetts, USA       | and let thee out.'  - Prospero (_The Tempest_)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: uucm000@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan)
Subject: DEC SNR RJE output problem
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:00:14 GMT


I've Dec SNA RJE installed in our system. The output of the RJE job
supposed to be written on the directory userdisk:[snarje]. The trouble
is that when ever the job comes out, the error message is diskquota
exceeded. I checked the directory is owned by [SYSTEM] which has quota
in the userdisk. The only way I can make it work is to disable the disk
quota, which is impossble. I need suggestion and advise in it.

Thanks in advance.

Tingli Pan                           Bitnet:   uucm000@ecnuxa.bitnet
Academic Computing Services          Internet: uucm000@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
Northeastern Illinois University
From: karin@zach.fit.edu (Karin Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Help needed with LAT$STARTUP and SYSMAN
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:03:25 GMT
Followup-To: karin@zach.fit.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

Howdy fellow netters,

I decided to be daring and finally give SYSMAN STARTUP a try and
have had a weird problem with LAT starting up.  For some reason,
when LAT starts up, the Service Name for the node shows up as
FULL.  Needless to say, this is not the actual name of the node.
I checked the comfile and see where p1 would be used as an
optional Service Name, if supplied, but all paramaters in the
invocation of LAT$STARTUP.COM are <def>.  I could get around the
problem by specifying the actual node name as p1, but that is not
quite how I'd like to deal with this situation.

Some specifics:  VMS v5.5 in an NI cluster (note: this happens
on every node in the cluster).  BTW, LAT$STARTUP.COM is Enabled
on all nodes.

Any ideas and/or pointers would be highly appreciated.  Thanks
in advance for any help.

 
-- 

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|  |-..-.|/.-.|-..-.|*|/   < karin@zach.fit.edu >   Academic Computing Services
`-'| |`-'|\`-'| |`-'|||\    \------------------/    Florida Tech
From: RFORSTER@VENUS.GOV.BC.CA ("Russell M. Forster")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Previous Note(s)!!
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:33:27 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

To all involved,

	Please dis-regard my previous note(s)! I am testing addresses for
	a new gateway and a test note got away from me.  There is no
	message body and the subject was garbled.  Please ignore the note
	and accept my apologies that it got out in the first place.

	/Russ
-----
Russ Forster (postmaster)			B.C. Systems Corporation
Senior Systems Analyst				4000 Seymour Place
						Victoria, B.C. V8X 4S8
RForster@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA			(604) 389-3186


Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: jburian@andy.bgsu.edu (John M. Burian)
Subject: Trouble debugging 'Access violation'
Organization: Bowling Green State University B.G., Oh.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 20:32:28 GMT

I'm working on a project involving Wollengong TCP software - my
project sits in between the Wollengong master server and the
Wollengong daemons (rlogind, tftpd, etc.) The master server
starts up my project instead of the daemon, then my project
starts the daemon. My project makes the connection so the daemon
can communicate.

I have an echo daemon that was written and compiled locally. It
works fine when running off the master server alone, and works
also with my project in between. So, the project works, to an extent;
with regard to the echo daemon, the connection is made, no problem.

The problem: when my project starts a Wollengong daemon, the daemon
exits immediately, with what I believe is an Access Violation error.
The daemon is being started with sys$creprc, and I provide a mailbox
to write to after the process terminates. Reading the mailbox with
sys$qiow, I get the accounting message from the daemons termination,
and the final status field is (hex) 1000000C. Since the C (dec 12)
is listed as an Access Violation, I assume that's the error, but
that 1 way over there makes me wonder, and I don't find any error
codes that large.

I don't have access to the source for the daemon, and the daemon 
works fine without my project in there. I guess the question is
what are causes for Access Violation errors? I understand that 
they are actually fairly generic. Why does it work with our local
echo daemon (which works with the master server alone, without 
my project), and not work with Wollengong daemons? Anyone have 
experience with this?

					Thanks,

					John M. Burian
					jburian@andy.bgsu.edu
From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: How to drive printer on X.25 PAD
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:20:42 -0700
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Jul20.133049.14034@slcs.slb.com>, brydon@asl.slb.com (Harvey Brydon (713)274-8281) writes:
> In article <1992Jul16.155113.4335@verifone.com>, jimmy_t@verifone.com writes:
>>We are using the VAX PSI X.25 software.  We will have one site that has
>>a leased line public network X.25 connection and a printer attached to
>>an RS-232 PAD port.
>> 
>>Is there some way to set up a VMS print symbiont so that it will
>>place a switched X.25 call whenever a print job is queued, and
>>disconnect when the job has finished printing?
> 
> There is a DEC Assets package that does this.  I don't remember the name
> but it is referred to as the X25 printer symbiont.
> 
> Disclaimer: I don't use it but I use PSI and X.25 and have thought about
> using it...

We use it to drive some 200+ print queues over our internal X.25 network - some
of the development for the symbiont was done on our site. The bottom line is
that it does the job.  You can't ask for more than that!

-- 

Ed Wilts, BC Systems Corp., 4000 Seymour Place, Victoria, B.C., Canada, V8X 4S8
EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA   |   Ed.Wilts@BCSystems.Gov.BC.CA   |   (604) 389-3430
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: waelder@navaho.uucp (25612-waelder)
Subject: Re: VMS/Un*x media exchange compatibilities
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 13:19:54 GMT

In article <9207250305.AA18103@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, MARZEC@GUNBRF.BITNET writes:
> 
> Fellow VMS/Un*x users,
> 
> We are interested in methods of data exchange between VMS and other systems
> such as Un*x via magnetic tape media preferably DAT. 
>
> Chris Marzec
> MARZEC@GUNBRF.bitnet
> 
When I needed to exchange files between a VMS system and a SUN
workstation network, I used 1/2" tape. I found that I had to
mount the tape on the VAX using the /NOHDR3 qualifier. DEC
adds additional file header information to the tape and the
SunOS choked on them. Otherwise my approach is the same as
yours. Reading and writing tapes on the Sun worked with the dd
command.
From: dragon@NSCVAX.PRINCETON.EDU (Mighty Firebreather)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Vax to Ultrix delay over decnet
Date: 21 Jul 92 14:11:15 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	Mark Randall <mrandall@av8r.uucp> writes:
>
>	It seems like I've picked everyone's brains for terminals, so
>now let's give DECnet a try...
>
>	We have a 3800 (vax/vms 5.5-1) and a 5400 (risc/ultrix 4.2A)
>connected via Thickwire E-net through a DELNI. We've got DECnet set
>up, although I'm a real beginner to networks and NCP (where's that
>manual...?). Everything seems ok but for one problem.
>	When we dlogin from ultrix to vms, all works well. Going the
>other way, vms to ultrix (via SET HOST), we experience really long
>delays when text is printed to the screen. Once logged in, I can type
>normally and text will be displayed until it just STOPS for no
>apparent reason! The pause occurs on average for 7-9 seconds, and then
>the text resumes printing, as if nothing had happened. There is no
>such pause going the other way.
>	This one's really got me baffled, folks. Anyone have an idea?
>I don't even know which system has the problem, but it looks like a
>quota is set too low somewhere...
>
>				Mark
>

	I've observed this same phenomenon here at Princeton.  Many systems
and terminal servers have exhibited the problem.  I'm reasonably certain
that the problem is due to network loading, and specifically to stations
using DEC protocols.  I've seen the problem behind a LANBridge 100 so that
I suspect broadcast and/or multicast packets as the culprits.

	Some time ago, I helped set up a small network consisting of a VAX 
Station 3100, three VT1200s and a VT1300.  It worked well using DECnet and 
LAT.  After it was connected to the University-wide network it still worked
well internally. We were able to use TCP/IP to communicate with the world
at large.  DECnet and LAT, however, did not work.  We could not see or be
seen by any other DECnet node on campus.  I consulted the University
networking people who informed me that they had been filtering DEC
protocols in that particular segment of the network.  They turned the DEC
protocols on and I could suddenly reach the rest of the campus. 
Performance went down the sewer!! 

*************************************************************************
*                                                                       *
*                        Here, there be dragons!                        *
*                      dragon@nscvax.princeton.edu                      *
*                                                                       *
*                                                Richard B. Gilbert     *
*************************************************************************
From: leichter@lrw.com (JERRY LEICHTER)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: re: Problem with ANALYZE/DISK/REPAIR
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:41:15 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	Im running V5.3-1 and for a while now when I run ANALYZE/DISK/REPAIR I
	get the message:

	%VERIFY-E-SORTERROR, error sorting multiply allocated block list
	-RMS-E-WLCK, device currently write locked

	I said something to DEC as an aside but didn't really get an answer.
	Is this a problem?  Any ideas how to fix or why it exists?

This is an old, known bug.  What happens is that VERIFY uses SORT to sort
its multiply allocated block list, and SORT in turn tries to open work
files on SYS$SCRATCH.  If SYS$SCRATCH points to the disk being verified,
then VERIFY will have write locked it.

The easiest solution is to point SYS$SCRATCH to some other disk.  If you
only have one disk, just let VERIFY continue - it won't do as complete a
job, but it's the best you can do.  (I think, but am not certain, that it
will still catch all multiply-allocated blocks; it's just that it will tell
you about them multiple times.)

I think this was fixed in VMS V5.4-something (by using an in-core sort).

							-- Jerry
From: DCOSTA@DREW.DREW.EDU (dave)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Printing last page of file
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:27:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Tried to send this direct, but it bounced.
------------

Addressee: j_rusterholz@eis_john.nijmeg.ingr.com

>	On several occasions I need to print out the last page of a
>	very large report. To date I use the EDT+ editor to move to
>	the last page (pf1+4) and select the lines I want to a temporary
>	file. Then the file is submitted to the printer queue.
> 
>	This works fine, but I'm almost sure that there is a more
>	sophisticated way of getting the last page printed!

The PRINT command has a /PAGES qualifier.  For instance,
PRINT/PAGES=(3) would print the first three pages, while 
PRINT/PAGES=(3,6) would print pages 3 through 6, and 
PRINT/PAGES=(3,"") would print from page 3 up to the end.
So all you have to do is figure out how large a page is on your 
printer and from this estimate which page you want to start at.  
Also, try something like PRINT/PAGES=(""-1,"") -- that's just a guess, 
but it might work.

---

dave costa
dcosta@drunivac.drew.edu
dcosta@drunivac.bitnet


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