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From: greg@godzilla.quotron.com (Greg "Maddog" Knauss)
Subject: Re: "True Color" (Was: Falcon)
Keywords: graphics, palettes
Organization: Quotron Systems, Inc
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 00:37:47 GMT

cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne) writes:
>The idea of having 16 million colours (24 bits worth), that are simply
>"chosen" rather than using a palette sounds neat, in SOME ways, but is
>it ultimately ALL that great?
>
>1) It means that if some of those colours never get used, whether in a
>particular application, or possibly EVER (who'd want THAT putrid shade
>of green?), then that part of the implied palette is wasted.  It might
>be a better use of resources to have a smaller palette that contains
>the colours that are actually USED.

But who decides what's a "good" color?  I'm particularly fond of THAT
putrid shade of green...

>2) I have often seen palette switching used to do animation/"editing"
>of pictures.  You change colour #1 from White to Black, which seems to
>be a pretty useful thing.  "True Color" seems to throw this sort of
>feature away.

The trouble with palette mapping on displays with huge amounts of
color is that it eats tons of memory.  Say you have a page of graphics
with 16 million "colors," each actually a logical color number,
essentially a key into a hash table of "real colors."  A 1 in the
display memory means go to the first entry in the hash table, pull out
the value there and use that on the monitor.  Between the video memory
and the hash table, you've just doubled the amount of memory the
picture takes up -- a not-insignificant amount with 24-bit color.
(Tangentially, you've also slowed things down a little...)  On the
8-bit Ataris this didn't cost anything -- four logical colors map to
four real colors.  Not a big deal.  On the Falcon (or whatever) it
is (or will be.)

>                          (We're ALL Americans, whether we live in
>Canada, Mexico, or the United States.  Of course, the "Americans" that
>live in Canada get better service from Atari, but that's another
>issue!)

Yeah, but you can also be called Canadians, and people from Mexico
can be called Mexicans.  Aside from "Americans" our next choice is
United Statesians, and that that just sounds really, really weenie.
-- 
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 Greg "Maddog" Knauss                      My boss doesn't know I'm doing this,
 greg@{duke|godzilla}.quotron.com                so I doubt he'd agree with me.
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From: georgew@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (George Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: question about game: "Baby Jo in: Going Home"
Date: 11 Apr 92 05:29:58 GMT
Reply-To: georgew@tekig1.pen.tek.com
Organization: Tektronix, Beaverton, Oregon, USA

I recently got Baby Jo (a public domain disk) from BRE Software for my kids.
They're unable to get past the duck that asks if Baby Jo wants a carrot.
Is there a trick to this, or is this in fact a demo/shareware game that BRE has
lost the doc file for?  The only text file on the disk is "txteng", which
contains the English version of the phrases spoken in "speech balloons".
In demo mode, the computer gets past the duck with no problems.

George S. Walker    {decvax,hplabs,uunet}!tektronix!tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM!georgew
*OR*  georgew@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM   *OR*   georgew%tekig1.tek.com@relay.cs.net
*OR*  tekig1!georgew.tektronix@Udel-Relay  Tektronix - Committed to Excellence
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: rickhall@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (Richard Scott Hall)
Subject: Languages for sale
Summary: GFA Basic 3.5 & Lattice C v.5
Keywords: GFA Basic, Lattice C
Organization: Universtiy of Coloardo, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:49:36 GMT

I have the following two items for sale:

	GFA Basic 3.5 (with registration card) - $75
	Lattice C v.5 (most current release)   - $100

If you are interested, make me an offer, more than likely the
best offer will get it.

-- 
            Richard Hall - University of Colorado at Boulder

                "Life's like holding water in your hands,
                 No grip is tight enough to keep it in." - me
From: Patrick_Dubbrow@ms.maus.de (Patrick Dubbrow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Overscan Mod
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:44:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.05/beta

davidd@cs.mcgill.ca wrote:

>        Is there any such product available for the (non-Mega) STe?  Last I
>heard, it only worked on non-e machines with TOS >=1.2.

What you've heard is right. There is no such product available for any STE.

Regards,
 Patrick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ljdickey@watmath.waterloo.edu (L. J. Dickey)
Subject: Re: GEMULATOR 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:56:52 GMT

The Gemulator from Branch Always Software was shown at the Toronto
Atari show this past weekend.  It is a program that runs on an IBM PC
and emulates an Atari ST.  Derek Michoka was there with a 33 MHz clone
runs the Gemulator at about 85% of the speed (my timings) of an 8 MHz
ST.  One surprise for me was that the Gemulator can run inside window
on the PC.  I won't be running out right away to buy the Gemulator,
because my Atari is still going fine.  When the day comes that I want to
double the speed of my ST programs, it may make more sense to get a 16
MHz Atari than a 70 MHz PC clone.  But, it is nice to know that there
is some insurance out there, because if (when?) Atari folds up, there
is a path in the PC clone line that would allow me to run some of my
favorite Atari software.  If someone is forced to move to a PC and they
still want to run their Atari programs, the Gemulator provides a way to
do it.

Lee Dickey


-- 
Leroy J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, U of Waterloo, Canada  N2L 3G1
Internet:      ljdickey@watmath.UWaterloo.ca
               ljdickey@watmath.waterloo.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: TOS 1.62 for sale
From: Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 01:47:37 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <7+pjs7q.ladasky@netcom.com> ladasky@netcom.com (John J. Ladasky II) writes:
> In article <1992Apr6.031730.14097@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aq115@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert C Glover) writes:
> >
> >I'm afraid your TOS 1.62 ROMs will NOT work in any ST.  They are
> >higher-capacity ROMs than the older 1.0, 1.2, and 1.4 versions.
> >The older ones are 192K total capacity, and TOS 1.62 is 256K.
> > 
> 	So, how does one go about determining which ST's will accomodate
> TOS 1.62 and which will not?  I have a 1040 with TOS 1.2.  Can I use the
> chips or not?
> John J. Ladasky II 					(ladasky@netcom.COM)
> 
> Netcom - Online Communication Services San Jose, CA


TOS 1.6 or 1.62 can only be used on a STE..




-- 
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***  Kapiti                        At least I don't Flicker,         ***
***  New Zealand..          *      not like a dying light globe      ***
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: chuj@horton.Colorado.EDU (CHU JEFFREY)
Subject: ST MAGAZINES
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:25:28 GMT

What magazines are available in the US for the ST?
I use to read STart, but they are not available anywhere here in Colorado.
email chuj@horton.colorado.edu
If you have a phone number to order these, please include it in the
replies.

						Thanks,
						Jeff



Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: ec333way@steam.uwaterloo.ca (Winter92 BEACON ec333 account)
Subject: CD ROM drives on the ST w/ Spectre
Originator: ec333way@steam.UWaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 04:56:26 GMT

I plan to get Spectre GCR VERY soon & most likely an SST as well (I have
to do some Mac work)..
My question is this: Can I hook a CD-ROM up to my ST that will AT LEAST
work with the mac? It doesn't necessarily have to do anything useful with
an ST, as long as it acts like a normal mac cd-rom..
Would I need a megatalk board for this or will my ICD adapter be good enough?
Also, I've heard that the Mac 1.44 meg disks are identical to IBM 1.44's..
Is this true? Could I, in theory, take a 1.44 meg Mac disk to my PC, read the
1.44 disk onto hard drive, re-write to an 800k and move to my ST? That would
be nice as well.. (I assume that copying files from the ST to a Spectre 
partition IS possible?)..


-- 
Mattias Hembruch
mghembruch@electrical.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
or ec333way@sail.uwaterloo.ca
From: moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: GEMULATOR vs ST w/ PC
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 17:16:33 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations


I still think that GEMulator is a waste. There is no pratical
use for it. Get an ST for $200 and be done with it... Why in god's
name would someone waste the time to find the ROMS, waste the diskspace
just to get something that's not even as fast as a $200 ST even with a 
386/40?

AND no MIDI interface? You've just lost 50% of your market... and 
SOUNDBLATER Midi interfaces are not too standard...

I'm confused...

<X>

__________________________________________________________________________
   |       /         |\
   | H E   \ Y B E R |/ E N       [ moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ljdickey@watmath.waterloo.edu (L. J. Dickey)
Subject: Re: Drivel and drool
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:10:02 GMT


I have noticed recently that a some folks are shooting their
mouths off without much consideration for the intelligence
of others.  There is something that one can do about it.

I find that when the quality of the postings gets to drivel and drool,
I can shift the signal to noise level upward somewhat by including a
another line in the KILL file.   I think that this may help.

	/bbs.actrix.gen.nz/h:j


-- 
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Internet:      ljdickey@watmath.UWaterloo.ca
               ljdickey@watmath.waterloo.edu
UUCP:          ljdickey@watmath.UUCP
From: mro@dcs.exeter.ac.uk (Marcus Roberts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: 50Hz Spectrum picture viewer wanted
Date: 7 Apr 92 08:58:57 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. - University of Exeter. UK

I have downloaded all the Spectrum picture viewers I can find on atari.archive
and have yet to get any to work properly.  When viewing a picture, the screen
starts to roll in the same manner as when 60Hz mode is selected.  I presume
that due to the special timings necessary, these programs are specifically for 
60Hz systems.  However, I am trying to view them on a TV set, which will only
run at 50Hz.

So, are these viewers dedicated to 60Hz pictures, and if so, are there any
50Hz viewers available?

Thanks

Marcus
From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: More info on GEMulator please!
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 00:02:28 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Apr10.174126.18488@microsoft.com>
  <petav.703269056@e20.physik.TU-Muenchen.DE>

Peter Averkamp writes about the Gemulator:
 
>I assume that this clumsy hardware solution is to prevent some
>jerk from the company get a lawyer and sue anybody for copyright 
>violation, right ? If you've got the ROM's you've bought a machine, Ha!

 
Yes indeed... just like the Spectre GCR is a "clumsy hardware
solution" that is "totally uncomfortable to install and use"

And the existing Macintosh emulator board which uses original Mac ROMs
in the PC...  that's probably clumsy and leads to incompatibilities too..?
 
What's your problem with this particular product..?
 
BobR
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ljdickey@watmath.waterloo.edu (L. J. Dickey)
Subject: Good software (Was: mega ste price
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:53:56 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.173956.7636@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aq115@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert C Glover) writes:
>
>There are some really fantastic programs avilable for the ST.  For
>example:  Avant Vector, DynaCAD, Pagestream, Calamus, Arabesque Professional,
>MegaPaint Professional, Didot Professional, NeoDesk, STalker 3.0, Flash
>II, Mega-Check, and many, many others.

I would add to this list:

	APL.68000, which is, in my opinion, the fastest APL
		available for any micro.
	J, which is the most exciting advance in APL in the last
		dozen years (it is free for Atari users).
	UNITERM, the finest terminal emulator program for any
		micro I have used, (and it is free).
	MAPLE, mathematically, the best symbolic algebra package
		available, (but sadly the latest release is not
		yet available fo the ST).
	GULAM, an ancient and trusted unix like shell, still my 
		favorite, after 7 years.

The best advice I ever got about picking a machine is to select the
software first, and then pick a machine that will run it.  I followed
that when I bought my Atari ST, and have been pleased with it since.


-- 
Leroy J. Dickey, Faculty of Mathematics, U of Waterloo, Canada  N2L 3G1
Internet:      ljdickey@watmath.UWaterloo.ca
               ljdickey@watmath.waterloo.edu
UUCP:          ljdickey@watmath.UUCP
From: bl692@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Ackerman II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ACE'92 show: Report
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:55:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr7.045538.1530
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


Dear Mr. Dhir,

	Question how in the He** are you supposed to run Spectre
without the Spectre Cartridge (or more appropriately the Mac
Roms it contains)?  Maybe run the pirate file versions of the Mac
Roms like Darryl Microsofts running a pirate version of TOS?

Bet Apple would really like to hear that.  Put my name on the list
of people that say good riddance to bad rubbish, glad to see you
leave the ST world, Darek.  

P.S.  I have to deal with an IBM enough at work why would I want
to drag one of the dam* things into my house.
From: bigham@acpub.duke.edu (Scott Bigham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Can't reach atari archives? - What happened?
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:44:56 GMT
Organization: n. Arrangement in an orderly or logical fashion.  See "miracle".

From the Holy Book of <ayqjz0g.ladasky@netcom.com>
  as spake by ladasky@netcom.com (John J. Ladasky II) :
>	                                          [...]  The machine known
>as atari.archives.umich.edu is listed as an 'unknown host,' [...]
                 ^

Try again without the 's'.  Failing that, use 141.211.164.8.

						-sbigham
-- 
Scott Bigham                   | The opinions expressed above are
bigham@hercules.acpub.duke.edu | (c) 1992 Hacker Ltd. and cannot be
                               | copied or distributed without a
                               | Darn Good Reason(tm).
From: MDORMAN1@UA1VM.UA.EDU (Mike Dorman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Test posting...
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:43:08 GMT

This is a test...

Mike.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ST Port of Keynote
From: fabrizio@deis64.cineca.it (Fabrizio Lugli)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 09:07:22 GMT
Keywords: Keynote

In article <3762@cod.NOSC.MIL>, healy@cod.NOSC.MIL (Mike Healy) writes:
|> 
|> If there are any Keynote users on this group, you may find the
|> following of interest:
|> 
|> 
|> ##### Forwarded from the Keynote mailing list (keynote@blink.att.com) #####
|> From: tjt (Tim Thompson)
|> Subject: Atari ST version of Keynote
|> 
|> The Atari ST version of Keynote 4.7c is in a somewhat usable state
|> (minor nits, but no known major problems).  This includes full graphic
|> support.  Many thanks to Mike Healy for his persistent and excellent
|> efforts on the port!  If you have access to the source/executable area of
|> the Keynote archive server (e.g. if you've purchased it), you can retrieve
|> this alpha/beta/whatever version by requesting the file "key47cst.cpio.Z",
|> which is a compressed cpio containing the binary and library files.
|> Might need a little work to set it up (moving things into their proper
|> places) - email me any questions.    ...Tim...tjt@blink.att.com...
|> 
|> 
|> Mike Healy
|> 
|> healy@cod.nosc.mil

What is Keynote ? some musical software ?
Send more detail please.

				Fabrizio Lugli
				fabrizio@deis64.cineca.it
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: : Kiwi attack on Atari/Falcon
From: Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:00:48 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <92104.102917ABADDON@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> ABADDON@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK writes:
> In article <1992Apr9.092527.786@actrix.gen.nz>, Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
> says:
> >Name what is week about the A5000...?? it eats the Falcon and the TT
> >for breakfast...!! ITS a 32 Bit RISC Machine...and Run Unix, were is
> >Unix for the Ataries..!!
> Well, the evaluation model we had (not an a5000, one of its big brothers) had
> some problems with its Unix. One that comes to mind was that it was possible
> to lock up the machine with the mouse whilst running X windows - you needed to
> powercyclye to get it going again - ouch. As for Atari Unix, its out, and has a
> apparently been with developors for a while now.

> Kev
> ------
> Kevin O'Donovan          | D'you wear a black armband when they shot the man
> kebab@uk.co.compulink.cix| who said 'Peace could last forever', and in my
> mebeb@uk.ac.liv.uxa      | first memories they shot Kennedy, I went numb
> abaddon@uk.ac.liv.ibm    | when I learned to see...
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Unix for the Atari is NOT OUT for the public, and Please still tell me
what is week about the A5000 I am still waiting..
-- 
***  Roger W. Sheppard      *      Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz  ***
***  85 Donovan Rd        *    *   GEnie.  R.SHEPPARD5               ***
***  Kapiti                        At least I don't Flicker,         ***
***  New Zealand..          *      not like a dying light globe      ***
Organisation: Westfaelische Wilhelms-Universitaet, Muenster, Germany
Date: Tuesday, 14 Apr 1992 12:31:24 MES
From: <ONM07@DMSWWU1A.BITNET>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: TOS 2.06 for the MegaSTe
 <1992Apr13.204641.352@imada.ou.dk>

In article <1992Apr13.204641.352@imada.ou.dk>, micro@imada.ou.dk (Klaus
Pedersen) says:
>
>Patrick_Dubbrow@ms.maus.de (Patrick Dubbrow) writes:
>>I found out that the VDI workstation bug is still present in TOS 2.06.
>
>That is funny, 'cause it's gone in FSM, and TOS 2.06 is newer than FSM, right?
>
>-Klaus

The 'workstation bug' Patrick is speaking of has nothing to do with
GEMDOS. It's a problem of the VDI screen driver in ROM.
From: adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: ACE'92 show: Report
Date: 9 Apr 92 02:06:25 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

Well the good thing about the Gemulator/Spectre whenever this combo 
becomes available is that not only will it emulate the ST and Mac,
but it will do so unobtrusively, meaning it will coreside happily with
OS/2 with full multitasking (unlike the other $1000 mac emulator which
takes over the PC) and will cost WELL under $1000...probably around
$500...since it does not have a 68000 chip on it...the chip is
emulated in software (amazing, isn't it?).  This also has the result
of allowing it to run faster and faster on newer Intel CPUs...so you
are not limited by the 8mhz speed of the 68000...  When you get a 586
upgrade for your 486, your mac emulator will quintiple in speed also,
along with the rest of your system.

I for one difinitely want the Gemulator...to run some of my better
ST stuff (believe it or not, but alot of our games will work on it),
but to run Mac stuff which I still find far superior to ST and (so far)
PC apps...

						- Al
.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: C for the ST
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:55:01 GMT

I think gnu-c is still available for the ST and possibly other PD c compilers.

Best commercial compiler?  All depends on who you talk to... Laser C, Mark Williams C,
and others have a good following.  Buy any of the current, modern compilers and you
can't go wrong.  You pays yer money and you takes yer choice.
From: pete@introl.introl.com (Pete Ikusz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Rumours about new releases....
Date: 13 Apr 92 23:54:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: introl.1992Apr13.235428.24701
Organization: Introl Corp.

In article <1992Apr13.232618.28991@cis.ohio-state.edu> tbrown@tortoise.cis.ohio-state.edu (Ted Brown) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.231555.30704@introl.introl.com> pete@introl.introl.com (Pete Ikusz) writes:
>>Ummm. 60? Maybe if it's running at 400 MHz. (assuming a 020 @ 20MHz is around
>>3ish MIPS) They should have it competeing with DEC's Alpha!
>
>Actually I don't think they are talking about the 680x0 line, but maybe a 
>RISC chip.  The 60 MIPS sounds like the MIPS R4000 or the Motorolla 88110.

Agreed!

>But Atari producing a RISC computer sounds about as weird as a 020 at 400 Mhz!
>How much do those chips cost apiece anyway?  I just don't see Atari producing
>a $5000 computer.  Well that's what *I* thought when I saw the 60 MIPS.

I did not even give that a consideration.
Atari has enough problems producing any product, not less a new RISC line.

>
In any case, it would be a serious technology jump from 6 MIPS to 60!
-Pete
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From: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: "True Color" (Was: Falcon)
Date: 14 Apr 92 08:49:50 GMT
Reply-To: piet@cs.ruu.nl (Piet van Oostrum)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Utrecht University, The Netherlands

>>>>> mc4c+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Choi) (MC) writes:

> BBR> Sigh... let's try it one more time...
> BBR>  
> BBR> "True Color" means that the human eye cannot tell the
> BBR> difference between a computer generated image and the "real"
> BBR> thing.

> With respect to the use of the term "true color" regarding the new Atari
> machines, these are the words of Leonard Tramiel:


> "BTW, true color does not mean 16 million colors. It means no palette."

> Source: ST Report #813.
> -- 
> Piet van Oostrum <piet@cs.ruu.nl>


MC> with respect to the comments of Mr. Tramiel. He is wrong.

If Mr. Tramiel is tells us that the Falcon will have true color and he
gives his definition of true color, then IMHO it means that whatever other
definition some people use for the term "true color", it does not
necessarily apply to the Falcon. And that is what the question was about.
-- 
Piet van Oostrum <piet@cs.ruu.nl>
From: eugen@hpbbi4.BBN.HP.COM (#Eugen Bauknecht)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 10:48:37 GMT
Subject: Re: need pd-btx-decoder
Organization: Hewlett-Packard GmbH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st

In comp.sys.atari.st, fs21@rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de (Thomas Walter Neser) writes:

    Hello,
    i search for a pd-btx-decoder dor atari st, has anyone seen such a beastie?
    Thanks
    --
    Thomas Neser


Hi Thomas,

TKR is offering a software called "MultiTerm-Mini" for ( I guess ) DM 8,-.
It is not a PD, although some other PDs has just the same price.

Works fine for that price.

Greetings,
Eugen Bauknecht

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
From: friedric@mdd.comm.mot.com (Bernd Friedrich)
Subject: TOS 2.06 Upgrade in ST, Easy??
Organization: Mobile Data Division, Motorola
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:34:59 GMT

Has anybody out there installed the TEC 2.06 upgrade in a circa '88 ST?

I'm considering the upgrade, and can handle a soldering iron, but would
like to stay away from desoldering any chips.

How difficult is the upgrade installation?

Are the instruction easy to follow?  What about the option to switch back
to older TOS? Is this an additional installation.

Any comments would be greatly appreciated.