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From: wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL (Will Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re:  Are major broadcasters using SSB?
Date: 7 Oct 1992 08:44:49 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I have always disliked the concept of SWBC moving to SSB.  Not only does
such a development require replacing vast numbers of receivers now out
there worldwide, many of them used by people who cannot afford a new radio
(many of whom have enough problems getting enough to eat, much less
spending resources to replace a perfectly-good existing device!), but it
also destroys the continuity of radio. 

Think about it -- a radio built in 1922, say, if still in good shape or
if carefully restored, will pick up intelligible broadcasts now in 1992,
70 years later. The very earliest radios ever built can still be used
if their components still function. There is a continuity of function
and operation that spans several generations. (Think of it as parallel
to books, which, if you know the language, can still be read hundreds of
years after they were printed.)

Moving to a new format of broadcasting, whether it be SSB or digital, 
destroys that continuity. Sure, there are ham rigs from the '30s on that
tune SSB, but that isn't the point. There is a sharp cutoff introduced
which says that there is an abupt change as of this point, and
everything is different afterwards. This is what I object to. We should
strive to maintain this historical continuity, not destroy it. A radio
broadcaster should take pride in the fact that he fits in an historical
context, and that his output is being received on devices that span a
time period longer than most human lifetimes.

Of course, one might say that this would mean being opposed to
television being introduced, because it "obsoleted" existing radios.
That isn't true, because it was a new development, and a new separate
and parallel technology, which could coexist with radio. (Some radio
manufacturers had "television adapters" for their radios, mainly to use
the radio as the audio part of the TV system, but that was an abberation
that only existed for a brief period. And I'm ignoring the effect that
TV *programming* had on radio *programming*, which is a separate issue
from the technology aspects.) I suppose digital satellite-based
radio broadcasting could be considered the same sort of step to a
totally new and different technology, allowing existing HF SWBC to
continue as-is,so that is why I'm not as opposed to it as I am to changing
the existing SWBC to SSB modes within the existing HF range.

Regards, Will
wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil OR wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil
From: meister@LSNCSC.ENET.DEC.COM (Soda Stereo!)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Yaesu FRG-100
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:30:24 GMT
Reply-To: Soda Stereo! <meister@LSNCSC.ENET.DEC.COM>
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Hi

In a recent article, Tom Sundstrom wrote about the WRTH's equipment review
publication, that should contain a review of the 'new YAESU FRG 100' Does
anybody has some information about this radio? Is it a receive-only FT 1000?
I would be glad, if anybody could give us some first impressions...

Thanks, Andreas

================================================================================
 Andreas Meister, Switzerland
meister@lsncsc.enet.dec.com
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: barryb@bilver.uucp (Barry Bond)
Subject: Re: SW Receivers with RS232 interface?
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 11:06:11 GMT
Keywords: OS9/68000 SHORTWAVE RECEIVERS SERIAL RS232 COMMUNICATIONS

Dave:

     Thank you for replying!  The ability to control more than one receiver
on the same port and with the same software is rather interesting, and
something of which I hadn't even thought yet.  My current scanners are
old enough to not give much hope for control that way.  However, if I
ever get new scanners, I'll be looking for the same ability!  Knowing
someone is controlling both with the same software is nice!

     I've had more than one good word regarding the JRC radios, too.

     All in all, just EXACTLY what I wanted:  advice and opinions!

     Thanks!

     Barry
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date:         Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:11:00 EST
Reply-To:     PERAINO@GMUVAX.BITNET
From:         PERAINO@GMUVAX.BITNET
Subject:      Question regarding space shuttle procedures

     On the last space shuttle mission, I was listening to the
announcer on WA3NAN, and he was saying that in preparation for reentry
the following morning, the crew was drinking as much water as they could hold.
Since this was just a passing comment, he never elaborated  as to why.
Anyone know?

peraino@gmuvax.gmu.edu
peraino@gmuvax
From: wells@athena.cs.uga.edu (Scott Wells)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Number transmissions... ?
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:50:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Oct16.122204.2899@linus.mitre.org> m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White) writes:
>I'm hearing those funny number transmissions again. At around
>8 Mhz, 

What time ?  Where are you (geographically) ?

-- 
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Full-Name: David L. Wilson
Mailer: Elm [revision: 66.25]
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:01:25 EDT
Reply-To:     "David L. Wilson" <dwilson@S850.MWC.EDU>
From:         "David L. Wilson" <dwilson@S850.MWC.EDU>
Subject:      Senate Law Passed

The new Senate anti-scanner law has passed and George Bush almost
certainly will sign it.  Source:  CNN Thur. night.
--
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Department of Mathematics       Amateur: AC4IU (ex-KD4ASW/KO4EQ)
Mary Washington College         Home Phone:    (703)898-1084
Fredericksburg, VA  22401       Office Phone:  (703)899-4744
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:55:45 -0400
Reply-To:     STUWILKR@EKU.BITNET
From:         STUWILKR@EKU.BITNET
Subject:      radio habana

Has anyone sent anything to Radio Habana through the net? I sent them some
e mail last week and I haven't received a reply. Are they e mail capable?
Anyhow, I am interested in knowing if any of the other shortwave broadcasters
have e mail addresses, especially Radio Moscow, BBC, and Deutsche Well.
                                               Thanks,
                                              Mark Wilkerson
                                             Eastern Kentucky University

           Bitnet: STUWILKR@EKU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: acourt@ncc.uky.edu (Allan Courtney)
Subject: Re: FTP sites for SW program listings?
Reply-To: acourt@ncc.uky.edu
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:15:54 GMT

bz649@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kenneth V Zichi) writes:

: 
: On a similar vein -- what about somplace on the net that has 
: Freeware or Shareware of use for radio hobbyiests?
:  

There is tons of stuff out there. Try Simtel20, wuarchive, nic.funet.fi,
ucsd.edu.

If you can access an archie server, do a search on swl, dx, or hamradio to
find other sources.

If you cannot use archie, read the ftp site and file faqs in news.answers,
and search through them for similar keywords.

: Thanks!  

You're most welcome!

--
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     <><> GEnie SWL/DXing Real Time Conference <> Sundays at 2100 ET <><>
From: "paul noskiewicz" <paul.noskiewicz@canrem.com>
Subject: sw-55 info needed
Reply-To: "paul noskiewicz" <paul.noskiewicz@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:55:10 EST

I too am looking at buying a SW-55 for general shortwave listening.
I noticed that no one answered you thread, but I was curious if you have
bought your 55 and if so if you have any comments on the unit?

I have not been able to find a price of 299 as you say you have.
Was that through a mail order outfit?

Look forward to your response.
--
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From: lancelot@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Question regarding 2010 antenna connections, reception & FETs.
Summary: Test for Pre-Amp Burnout on the SONY 2010
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 19:02:53 PDT
Reply-To: lancelot@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us




To test the SONY 2010 for RF burnout (Courtesy of "Bob's Tips of the Month",
pg. 107 MONITORING TIMES, January 1992):

at MT, they, with the whip fully extended, tune thru the 11.6-11.9 MHz
spectrum during the day, making sure that at least some signals make the 
bar illuminate most of its segments...
Jim Campbell of Ann Arbor, Michigan, came up with another simple test...
set the radio to 1620.0 khz with the whip shortened completely and note 
the noise level; tune slightly higher ---there should be a pronounced
drop in background noise....
-- 

Brett Breitwieser / KC6UPU @ N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA / grid CM86XX
lancelot@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us   (...netcom!cruzio!lancelot)
425 Ninth Ave., Santa Cruz, CA. 95062-3915 / (408)475-9156 voice
genie: A.BREITWIESE  / fido: 1:216/509 / SETI: the Ultimate DX
From: bz649@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kenneth V Zichi)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: WEWN
Date: 10 Oct 1992 05:33:03 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Michael --
  Do you have any idea when WEWN will be testing?  What freqs
should we be checking?  Thanks!
-- 
73  //kv zichi  bz649@Cleveland.FreeNet.edu
From: af957@yfn.ysu.edu (Wally Blume)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Passport to World Band-->NOT!
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:37:50 GMT
Reply-To: af957@yfn.ysu.edu (Wally Blume)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH


In a previous article, schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster) says:

>The technical quality of Larry Magne's receiver reviews really took a
>nosedive when he left the WRTH editorial staff to do his own thing.
>He concentrates too much on minor details about design and appearance,
>and less on PERFORMANCE the way he used to. Jonathan Marks' reviews on
>Radio Nederland and in the WRTH are much more useful to me.
>
>-- 
  I tend to agree selectivity, sensitivity and audio are much more important
factors in radio design than where the 0 key is on the key pad. WRTH's reviews
are superior if there were only more of them...
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp)
Subject: 5005.18KHz/ interesting foreign broadcast
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:04:19 GMT

Tom Roach has pointed out to me that between 1300 and 1400GMT that
there is an interesting SW station on 5005.18KHz. It sounds like
Islamic prayer type broadcasting, but I cannot pick it up well
enough to make a positive ID. I consulted the WRTH and found that
Malaysia has a 10KW transmitter in Sarawak on that frequency. It
also indicates that Nepal has one that is 100Kwatts on the same 
frequency.

On a hunch I looked to see if there are any English language broadcasts
from Malaysia at the same time on a frequency close to 5005, and
found that on 4950 there is an English language broadcast also
at 10KW. Well today I listened and found two or three stations
piled up on 4950. 

So I really can't say for sure that there was an English language 
broadcast on 4950 between 1300 and 1400gmt.

I was wondering if anyone out there knows for sure what the source
of the 5005.18KHz broadcast is? It really sounds like Islamic 
prayer chants to me, so it makes me think it is not Nepal (since
Islam isn't a strong factor in Nepal). Also 1300GMT is 10PM in
Japan and I wouldn't think that the time would more than two
hours difference between Malaysia and Japan. I am not overly
familiar with all of the Islamic customs, but I wonder if they
have an evening prayer so late? Perhaps someone can enlighten me?

-- 
Richard Crisp       Cupertino, Ca.          crisp@netcom.com
(415) 903-3832 wk  "Get rid of the bums!"   (408) 253 4541 fax
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,alt.radio.scanner
From: rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (ICOM IC-R70)
Subject: CA3189 FM Demodulator Chip Provides AM Synchronous Detection
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:44:34 GMT
Followup-To: rec.radio.shortwave,alt.radio.scanner


Electronics World + Wireless World, Oct 1992, p. 854

Product Detector for AM

A CA3189 FM IF chip makes a good AM synchronous demodulator. The circuit
shown provides AGC, an S-meter output and synchronous detection and only
needs the RF input. Alternate half cycles of the input to pin nine are
inverted by the switching waveform generated in the chip, so that
unidirectional half-cycles of the modulated carrier appear at pin six and
simply need a filter to remove the high frequencies to leave the 
demodulated AM. Potentiometer RV1 sets AGC to suit the RF stages used
and RV2 adjusts the input to avoid overload. To start with, adjust
the DC at pin six to 3V on the strongest signal.

R. Gough
Shenstone Stafforshire
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: (no subject given)
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:05:00 GMT
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set swl-l mail
From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Radio Malaysia confirmed (English bdcst)
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:08:22 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

I am finding Radio Malaysia (Sarawak) with a pretty readable signal
this morning (10.10.92) here in Cupertino California (near SF). I
flipped on the NRD535 at 1330GMT tuned to 4950 and even as I type 
now (1500gmt) they are still very readable.

-- 
Richard Crisp       Cupertino, Ca.          crisp@netcom.com
(415) 903-3832 wk  "Get rid of the bums!"   (408) 253 4541 fax
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: gerry@bluemoon.rn.com (Gerard M. Foley)
Subject: Re: SW Receivers with RS232 interface?
Keywords: OS9/68000 SHORTWAVE RECEIVERS SERIAL RS232 COMMUNICATIONS
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 11:35:09 EDT

crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp) writes:

> In article <1992Oct8.181253.26493@rsd0.rsd.dl.nec.com> dave@rsd.dl.nec.com (D
> >require an external adapter.  NRD receivers have the RS232 interface
> >
> >Right now I would buy the NRD-525 from Grove for $899. 
> >
> 
> Note that the NRD525 requires the addition of an OPTIONAL RS232 interface, wh
> the NRD535D includes the interface as standard equipment. The interface runs
> about $90 from folks like Universal etc.
> 
> -- 
> Richard Crisp       Cupertino, Ca.          crisp@netcom.com
> (415) 903-3832 wk  "Get rid of the bums!"   (408) 253 4541 fax

I think the Yaesu and Icom radios that accept computer control require
simple level conversion from RS-232 to TTL.  The chip is either the 
1188 or 1189 if my memory for numbers is correct.

gerry@bluemoon.rn  My amateur radio callsign is K8EF, and my
packet radio address is K8EF@W8CQK.OH.USA.NA
From: rovero@attu.oc.nps.navy.mil (Josh Rovero)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: SW Receivers with RS232 interface?
Keywords: OS9/68000 SHORTWAVE RECEIVERS SERIAL RS232 COMMUNICATIONS
Date: 10 Oct 92 06:07:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School,Monterey CA

The JRC NRD-525 and NRD-535, Drake R-8, and Racal 6790 can all be
controlled/monitored with RS-232.

I believe it is also an option for the Kenwood R-5000 and Icom R9000.

-- 
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From: kwp@wag.caltech.edu (Kevin W. Plaxco)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: BBC Worldwide
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:48:30 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: sgi1.wag.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct15.205534.447@hnrc.tufts.edu> jerry@hnrc.tufts.edu (Jerry Dallal) writes:
>        wanted." 
>
>            BBC Worldwide is slick and fat with lots of articles.  But 
>        I  just want to know what's on the air!   I  don't need a  100 
>        page glossy magazine,  at $40/year with articles like "Top ten 
>        places to make love"  (I'm not making this up.   See page 97.) 

So, for those of us who don't subscribe, where are they?

-- 

-Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: Cohena@mdc.com (Andy Cohen)
Subject: Re:  Passport 1993
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 19:29:58 GMT
Organization: MDGAC
Followup-To: rec.radio.shortwave

In article <9210081318.AA13107@cs.utexas.edu>, wmartin@STL-06SIMA.ARMY.MIL
(Will Martin) wrote:
> 

> A good example is the fact that you won't find one of the best, most
> informative, and long-running DX programs recommended or described:
> Glenn Hauser's "World of Radio".  

Sorry for the stupid question but......what freq and when????  I've never
caught it and I'm discusted with the BBC's SW program.
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
From: M14494@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: SW-55 info needed
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:54:23 GMT

I'm thinking of buying a Sony SW-55 receiver for
general SWL-ing.  I would appreciate any comments
pro or con, experiences, and advice on where to
buy one a the lowest cost.  The lowest price I've
found so far is $299.85.  Thanks for any advice.
From: dcschwind@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: VLF
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:01:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: miavx1.1992Oct15.140128.13612
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <ad6fea48@Kralizec.fido.zeta.org.au>, brian.westlake@f605.n713.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Brian Westlake) writes:
> Hi,
>    Just a quick query. I wondered if it is possible to decode the VLF
                                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> transmissions on 19Khz.  I understand that most of the VLF and ELF
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	Not a chance.  These transmissions are SEVERELY ENCRYPTED.  I worked 
with airborne LF/VLF radios in the Air Force, and unless you have an atomic 
clock and crypto gear your out of luck.
> 
> --- Opus-CBCS 1.73a
>  * Origin: SHORTWAVE POSSUMS: Why CHESS & SWL anyway?! (3:713/605.0)

********************************************************************************
  Dennis C. Schwind                  DCSCHWIND@MIAVX1.ACS.MUOHIO.EDU
	The reason there are so few female politicians is that it is to much 
trouble to put makeup on two faces.
                                                     Maureen Murphy
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From: "ray chow" <ray.chow@canrem.com>
Subject: (no subject given)
Reply-To: "ray chow" <ray.chow@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:09:26 EST

to: Bruce_Caldwell@IC.UALBERTA.CA

BC>subcribe swl-l#cuvma <Bruce_Caldwell@ic.ualberta.ca>

Bruce:

You should have sent this to LISTSERV@CUVMA.BITNET.  The format of the 
subscribe command isn't quite right; it should be

subscribe swl-l Bruce Caldwell

This puts your name in the "To:" line of the mail messages you receive 
from the list.  Only the list name (not the Bitnet address) is required 
for the command.  Finally, LISTSERV expects your real name instead of your 
address in the SUBSCRIBE command.

rc   <ray.chow@canrem.com>

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From: A.Cotroneo@IT12.BULL.IT ((Alfredo Cotroneo))
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Air band converter for SONY SW77
Date: 14 Oct 92 10:44:49 GMT
Reply-To: "(Alfredo Cotroneo)" <A.Cotroneo@IT12.BULL.IT>
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Received-Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 12:13:18 +0100
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I just bought a new SONY SW77 during my latest trip to the USA (new
model 900 000+ series with long antenna and gold Sony sticker), and
I wonder if someone knows how to receive the AIR Band with this receiver.

More specifically: Is there a small converter or simple circuit
one can build to receive the 120MHz air band with the Sony SW77?

Has somebody thought of a modification of the SW77 already?

Thanks.

- Alfredo -
(Milano, Italy)


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:04:44 EDT
Reply-To:     "andrew m. boardman" <amb@CS.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was amb@SHADOW.CS.COLUMBIA.EDU
From:         "andrew m. boardman" <amb@CS.COLUMBIA.EDU>
Subject:      Radio Yugoslavia?

I'm trying to listen to the aforementioned station, not for news of the
conflicts there (the BBC does really well with that) but of the chess
match.  They seem to not be where I've heard them previously (location is
Eastern North America (New York)) -- have they been on the air anywhere?

andrew
Xref: sparky rec.radio.shortwave:7389 alt.radio.scanner:2101
From: patrik@cup.portal.com (Patrick M Crumhorn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave,alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Idiots in Congress
Date: Fri,  9 Oct 92 16:32:20 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

     Someone needs to post a list of the senators and representatives
who voted for this travesty.  Not a one of those suckers should be
dog catcher, much less "representatives".
  
				Patrick Crumhorn
				patrik@cup.portal.com
 
				"When euphoria is outlawed,
				only outlaws will be euphoric"
From: tlc20700@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thomas L. Carney)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.shortwave
Subject: Re: Are major broadcasters using SSB?
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:10:17 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

hanavin@huey.udel.edu (Chuck Hanavin) writes:

                       [1st paragraph deleted]


>On the recieving end, Beat frequency ocillators do not cost a lot of money.
>a bfo can be added to any radio externaly. An oscillator at the either the
>received frequency or the I. F. (+- 1khz) can be used to beat aqainst the
>incoming signal and demodulate the SSB signal. Granted this is not the
>best method, but it wont cost alot.

BUT the part you're leaving out is that to receive SSB with copyable
fidelity one needs a very stable local oscillator and very good tuning
resolution which the cheapies CAN'T DO!!!  The greater stability requirement
is what drives up the cost to the point where people with a lower cost of 
living simply can't afford it!!  Try putting a BFO on a cheap radio and
see how many stations you get without retuning every minute or less.

>If all the major sw broadcasters switch over ssb, there will be lots of
>cheap bfo's on the market, as well as, cheap japanese sw sets with the
>added bfo.

The cheap sets simply don't have the stability to cut it.

Tom 
wb9rxj@uiuc.edu
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