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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:25:57 TUR
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From:         SAYIN@TRMETU.BITNET

Request for STUDENT INFORMATION SYSTEMS

We are looking for Student Information System Applications to benefit in the
design of our University's new SIS. Our administrative departments are equipped
with Apple's connected via AppleShare.The system contains many peripherals like
CD's, Scanners, Tape Back-Up's etc. Registrar's Office's interfaces with the
Library, Medical Center, Dormitories, Sports and Cultural Affairs should be
within to-be-established SIS.  Student ID-cards should serve as ID card for any
purpose carrying a chip of 2 MB on it.  We may think to add a miniframe for
background support and A/IX or UNIX.  On the campus we have a modern fiberoptic
network linking all departments and academic advisors together.  But info
related with students is kept in a out-of-date UNISYS(Burroughs A5)occupying
approx. 500 MB disk space for the time being. ATM-like machines should serve
students to issue transcripts etc.  Registration via telephone should be
possible.  Turkish tel-lines are appropriate for this purpose.
Our University, Middle East Technical University in Ankara/TURKEY, is one of
the best universities in the country, teaching in english, having 18.000
students in 35 departments.
If you mail your responses to me, we will benefit from your experience. In case
we may visit your university.
Assoc.Prof.Dr.Erol SAYIN
Vice-Secretary General/Middle East Technical University
06531 Ankara/TURKEY
e-mail: sayin@trmetu
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Date:         Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:33:42 EDT
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From:         JOHN GOODEN <U32E5@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      DOCTORAL PROGRAMS

We are doing an informal survey of faculty invovlement in doctoral      ram
program activities.  We would like to know how your department handles  .
the following.

   Do you have a formula  for accounting for doctoral loads?    Do you  eceive
receive compentation or load reductions for chairing and serving on
doctoral committees? Is the compensation or load reduction pro-rated
on the basis of the amount of chairing and serving committees?  Any
information will be helpful.  Thanks.  John
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 00:19:25 EDT
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From:         Blitz <BSMJJ@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Plus (+) and Minus (-) Grading

Irv:

1. "We" use 'em at John Jay College, CUNY.  (That is, we plus 'em and we
    minus 'em along with their A's B's & C's)
2.  "'em" (above) refers to students, but also to ourselves and to the works.
3.  We also give something (or should I say "they" since I just plain refuse)
    called the D+.  Now just what sort of message do you think a D+ is?


4.  As for your substantive question....what do I think of such a +/-
    system (someone will no doubt say it has its plusses and minuses...oops,
    I said it), I guess I try NOT to think about it.  Seems to me that the
    more grading variants we use, the closer we come to numerical grading--
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From:         Christopher Bolton <CBOLTON@OREGON.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Plus (+) and Minus (-) Grading

We've been using it for a couple of years now.  I don't care alot about it -
seems it's just another manifestation of grade inflation.  Computing GPAs
becomes a headache too.

Chris Bolton CBOLTON@OREGON
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From:         Damon Riley <RILEYD@GUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Plus (+) and Minus (-) Grading

My doctoral program doesn't use +/- grading, but grade inflation seems to have
eliminated meaning to our grading system.  As a student, I have only received
two grades--A's or B's.  But the difference between a low B and a low A is
large.  In fact, I have never heard of anyone in the program ever getting less
than a B.  If you are passing the course, you get a B.  Anyone doing less than
passing work either takes an incomplete or withdraws.  I haven't concluded
that a +/- system is better or worse, but I do know that B's for anyone doing
work between F and Aquality makes a B a less meaningful grade than if A, B, C,
 D, and F were all used.  Who is (or what is) responsible for grade inflation?
Damon Riley
Doctoral candidate at U. of Maryland
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 19:45:40 EDT
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From:         Theo Leverenz <LEVERENZ@UKCC.UKY.EDU>
Subject:      Facts about Firsts

This is admittedly perhaps an unsual request, but does anyone know of a
reference source devoted to "First" in higher education?  Something ranging
from the probably more important (e.g. first to admit women, first to
implement extention education programs) to the probably less important if not
trivial (e.g. first institution to award an honorary degree).  Theses firsts
could the national, regional, or state firsts, BIG UNIVERSITY FIRSTS OR small
college firsts.   I'm familiar with various sources of
information concerning notable dates (e.g. foundings, etc.), but I'm really
looking for a collection of "firsts".  Any help out there?

Thanks!

Theo Leverenz
Institutional Research & Planning
Georgetown College
Georgetown, KY
502-(862)8226
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:00:00 +0100
Reply-To:     Frank Poppe <POPPE@SWOV.NL>
From:         Frank Poppe <POPPE@SWOV.NL>
Subject:      Re: Randomly subsetting datasets

SAS-L-'s

I've been following the discussion on randomly subsetting a dataset.

I have two observations.

1. Nobody seems to have mentioned the difference between sampling with or
without replications. Most solutions trying to subset a *specific* number of
observations implicitly allow replications of the observations. The solutions
that make just one pass through the data using a random number to decide whether

or not select the observations are sampling without replication.

2. I did not see the efficient solution using the random function in the
where-options:

TITLE 'small run on random sample' ;
PROC whatever
   DATA=my.bigset ( WHERE = ( UNIFORM ( 0 ) < &myfraction )
                    /* other dataset-options */
                   )
   /* other proc-options */
/* other proc-statements */
RUN ;

It works for SAS 6.07, but I don't think older versions allow the use of
SAS-functions in the WHERE-option.

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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:41:05 -0400
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From:         RIKARD@VCUMVS.BITNET
Subject:      missing rows/columns

Content: Response
Summary: Filling in the missing cases
Release and platform: any
Name:    Pete Rikard
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Real Addresses:Virginia Commonwealth University, Computer Center
               110 S. 7th Street, 4th Floor, Richmond, VA 23219
               Phone (804) 786-4828    FAX: (804) 371-8464
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>This is a problem that may have no solution within SAS (or maybe it's
>obvious and I will look like a fool), but here's hoping.  In our work,
>we often have to prepare tables containing data which will later be
>entered (manually or electronically) into another computer database.
>The problem is that SAS, for obvious reasons, will not print values for
>a variable that have no cases.  To pick a very simple example, if we are
>using PROC FREQ, say to produce a frequency distribution of the students
>at our university by home state, and we have no students from NM, that
>line simply does not appear in the report; we just have the NJ line
>followed by the NV line.  This creates manifold problems for data
>re-entry.  (Please don't ask why we are re-entering data.)
*****************************************************************

 Nothing foolish here, but I don't know of any program that can
 look at data and determine if all subsets of the dataset are
 there or what to create to fill in the blanks. Some person
 has to define the "complete set" and then use that information
 to compare with the given sample.

You need to build that "complete" dataset and merge that with working
dataset.
  data total;
       infile whatever;  * a dataset containing one obs for each;
       input state;      * class variable, in this case state. ;
  data routine;
       infile whichever;
       input state .... and bunches of other things ;
  data final;
       merge total(in=inroot) routine(in=innew);
       by state;
       if inroot & not innew then missing='yep';
       * a just for fun variable to note the "missing" status ;
       * of this observation.;
  proc freq;
       tables state*something / missing;
 *********************************************************************;
 Many procedures will handle the missing cases in some fashion or other.
 The defaults in SAS are generally to not include missing data, so
 you need to look at the procedures you use and determine if there
 is a way to handle missing data and what effect it has on your
 results.

 You can probably build your complete dataset from the files being
 used in your database. I often use a similar process to make complete
 tables. The missing variable becomes my flag that something may
 need attention; where did the data go? who didn't send in their
 report? what data didn't pass the validity checks... In your case
 you can produce a line for the state without other data values.
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From: lbertoli@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Lawrence E Bertolini)
Subject: Re: 2400 ft 9 track 6250 bpi tapes
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:00:42 GMT

In article <9210090124.AA23203@biostat.mc.duke.edu> "(Lawrence H. Muhlbaier)" <
lhm@BIOSTAT.MC.DUKE.EDU> writes:
>>
>> * FROM: AMNON IGRA
>> Does anyone know how many megabytes of data in one large flat file can be
>> stored on a 2400 ft 6250 BPI 9 track tape? I have a PC SAS user who has a
>> large reel to reel tape drive attached to his PC and who would like to know
>> how much data he can store on a single tape of this size. Thank you.
>>
>
From "System 370 Job Control Language", by Gary DeWard Brown (a great book!):

length_in_feet = (records*((BLKSIZE/density)+k)) / (12*blocking_factor)
  where
  length_in_feet = length of tape, in feet, required to store the records
  records = #records in the dataset
  BLKSIZE = length of the block in bytes
  density = bits per inch: 200, 556, 800, 1600, 6250
  k = interblock gap in inches: 0.75 for 7-track, 0.6 for 800/1600 bpi 9-track,
      0.3 for 6250 bpi 9-track
  blocking_factor = number of records per block (BLKSIZE/LRECL)

FYI, for 3480 type cartridge, density is 38800 bpi, interblock gap is 0.08in.,
tape length=505 ft.
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+---------------------------+----------------------------------------------+
| Larry Bertolini           |     "220, 221, whatever it takes." - Mr. Mom |
+ Ohio State University ----+----------------------------------------------+
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:58:00 EDT
Reply-To:     "A. Barrios" <UABC@UNC.BITNET>
From:         "A. Barrios" <UABC@UNC.BITNET>
Subject:      Moving graphics betwen applications

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CONTENT:  Ftp.sas.com
SUMMARY:  New TS documents,  Graphips under MS Word and Harvard
          Graphics.
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NAME:     Arturo Barrios
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Hi Sas-lers,

Now you can ftp sas to ftp.sas.com to download two new documents the
TS 252B,  that explain how to move graphics from sas to MS Word with
True Type fonts, and the TS 252A, that is a more detail document than
TS 252 to move graphics to the Harvard Graphics software.  Peter Rusza
from SAS is preparing another TS about CorelDraw.

Enjoy,

Arturo
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Date:         Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:13:08 +0100
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From:         Zonderman Paul <LAAAA30@BLEKUL11.BITNET>
Subject:      NPM information

Hallo,
A person of our system group wants to make a report about NPM information
 (Network Performance Monitor) , can it be done with SAS ?
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From: mucm000@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Fred Seaton)
Subject: bootstrapping
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:38:47 GMT

Hi,

I'm posting this request for a faculty in our accounting department.  As
we're not regular readers of this list, please respond directly to me or
to his email address ( espabodh@ccmail.wiu.bgu.edu ).

thanks ...
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I would like to know if there is a procedure in SPSS, BMDP, or SAS
(or any other package) that allows bootstrapping with logistic
regression?  To be more specific, I like to select repeated random
sub-samples of my original sample, run a logistic regression on
each of those sub-samples, and use the coefficients of each
logistic regression to predict the outcome for the cases not
included in that particular regression (or sub-sample); my
objective is to get an estimate of the overall error rate in
predicting the outcome.  Please advise me of any possibilities.

                                             Sincerely,

                                             Hassan Espahbodi

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From: mford@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Mark Ford)
Subject: Problem with CONCUR engine for VMS
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:35:00 GMT


I am working on a SAS/AF program entry using SAS 6.07 on the Vax.
It is for a multi-user application so I am using the CONCUR engine type.
  
There seems to be a problem with the append command when several users are
reading and writing and appending to this CONCUR data set at the same time.

The problem is that the append command sometimes returns control to the SCL
code before actually appending to the CONCUR data set.  This causes the
program to continue processing on the assumption that the append has taken
place, when maybe it has, maybe it hasn't.  Shouldn't the append command
wait to return control to the SCL code until the new observation is actually
added to the data set?  I use the following statement:

if append(dsid) ne 0 then goto error;

The append does eventually occur, usually after the SCL code has finished
its iteration and is waiting for user input.

If this behavior is normal then I will have to write a loop that checks
to see if the new observation is really there before continuing.

Any comments are appreciated.  Thank you.
 
Mark.
mford@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu


 
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:25:15 PDT
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From:         TWB2%RatesRDS%FAR@CTS27.CS.PGE.COM
Subject:      ANSI.SYS and X Command

I found that the command "X COMMAND.COM" would run under DOS 5 without
ANSI.SYS.  I am not sure whether it found COMMAND.COM from COMSPEC in the
environment or just through dumb luck.  At any rate, it let me shell out to
DOS, execute DOS commands, and return using the EXIT command.

This does not answer your .SYS question, but it may solve your problem.
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:03:59 EDT
Reply-To:     Philip Tejera <TEJERA@BARUCH.BITNET>
From:         Philip Tejera <TEJERA@BARUCH.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: WHERE clause error message

On Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:23:00 EDT <JWJ@NCCIBM1> said:
>MEMO to users of WHERE clauses
>
>Here's a tip:
>
>SAS does not check for the proper number of closing parentheses
>in a WHERE clause.  Instead, you get a cryptic error message.  BEWARE.
>
>If you code:
> PROC FREQ DATA=X (WHERE=(A=1);
>
>You get the error message.
> ERROR: No data set open to look up variables.

BeWARE yourself, oh crier of doom !    :-)

NoWHERE do you say what version of SAS you are using or what platform
you are running on. But this is an old bug you are talking about - I
tried your syntax on SAS 6.07 TS 301 running under VM/CMS with ESA,
and I got an error message pointing out the missing parenthesis.

I think that more likely what is to be learned is to get off that old
6.06 or whatever you are running, and get going with 6.07. On most
IBM mainframe platforms, 6.07 is the official production version.
A second possibility is that you need a zap (fix) applied. Better check
with your local computer center staff.
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From:         "(P. Oldenkamp 5-4481)" <oldenkmp@ESPRESSO.BOEING.COM>
Subject:      Re: The NESUG 92 Experience -- ZOWIE!!
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Hal German (hhg1@gte.com) commented:

> I'd like to thank Craig Dickstein and Marge Scerbo for putting together the
> best NESUG conference ever. Highlights included:
>    -- A Jim Goodnight Keynote on what is on his HP computer. To see tentative
>       but actual release dates for 6.08 (VMS) and 6.09 (UNIX) was refreshing.

So what are the latest publicly announced release dates for 6.08 and 6.09?
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:36:16 CST
Reply-To:     Judi Reine <REINE@CMSUVMA.BITNET>
From:         Judi Reine <REINE@CMSUVMA.BITNET>
Subject:      T-test problem answered

Thanks to Joe St. Sauver, Kernon Gibes, Susan Hilsenbeck, Phil Wood, and
Beth Noble for helping me with my problem so quickly.  Proc Univariate
is the thing to use since as Susan pointed out, substracting a constant
does not change the variance.  Thank you all.

Judi D. Reine
Academic Computer Consultant
Humphreys 221
Central Missouri State University
Warrensburg, MO  64093
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From: TEJERA@BARUCH.BITNET (Philip Tejera)
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Subject: Re: Documented (?) use of SUBSTR?
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:48:08 GMT
Reply-To: Philip Tejera <TEJERA@BARUCH.BITNET>
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On Thu, 15 Oct 1992 10:37:00 EDT Philip Gallagher,(919)966-1065 said:
>
> I have never before seen the SUBSTR fcn in SAS used except to return
> a character value to be used in an assignment stmnt or a comparison,
> etc.  I would never have guessed that it could be used to write
> over the portion of the first argument (NAME) described by the
> second and third arguments with the character string on the right
> hand side of the = sign.  (If I remember correctly, PL/1 does this,
> so I shouldn't be surprised that SAS can, too.)  Anyway, I've looked
> in my manuals, and I still can't find this documented.  I was amazed
> that there was no syntax error, so I tried a little program (appended),
> and found that there was still something new for me to learn about
> SAS.  :-)  Comments?

This use of the SUBSTR function, under both Version 5 and Version 6, is
known as using SUBSTR on the left side of an equal sign, or using SUBSTR
as a pseudo-variable function, and is clearly documented in the FM under
the SUBSTR function. See for instance SAS User's Guide: Basics, Version 5
Edition, p. 274-275.

You are correct in that this capability also exists in PL/I, where it is
known as a "pseudovariable" function.

For those who use SPSS, this use of SUBSTR is also possible.
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Subject: INTERPRETING TYPE III SS IN PROC GLM
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:35:00 GMT
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Is it correct to divide type III SS by corrected total SS to get the
proportion of variability in the response variable accounted for by the
explanatory var?  or do I use Type I ss values?  I thought Type I values are
additive and not appropriate.

Thanks in advance.

Brian Day
btd@niords1.em.cdc.gov
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:37:00 CDT
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From:         BOKERSON@MEMSTVX1.BITNET
Subject:      proc sql

Running SAS 6.07 with VAX/VMS 5.5

Is Proc SQL available on the PC version of SAS?  I have a user who has SAS/PC
(remote location) and has a problem that would be solved easiest with SQL, but
I am not sure that it is available on that platform...

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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 04:23:00 EDT
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From:         JWJ@NCCIBM1.BITNET
Subject:      WHERE clause error message

MEMO to users of WHERE clauses

Here's a tip:

SAS does not check for the proper number of closing parentheses
in a WHERE clause.  Instead, you get a cryptic error message.  BEWARE.

If you code:
 PROC FREQ DATA=X (WHERE=(A=1);

You get the error message.
 ERROR: No data set open to look up variables.