From: ma@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: What About Tibet?
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:38:37 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Aug26.114859.16841@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov>, fstawit@icomp01.lerc.nasa.gov (Tawit Chitsomboon) writes:
> 
> Hi Friends,
> 
> about Tibet was because I would like to see China being regarded
> by the world community as 'civilized', as she has always been for
> thousands of years. China deserves nothing less than that.
> 
China has been civilized for thousands of year. But the so-called world doesn't
regard it is. How can you know it (the "world") will only by handling the Tibet
problem their way?

> various netters. I just don't feel that it'll lead us to any
> fruitful conclusion. 
>
I agree. There is not , and will not be any.
 
> The response from netters that moved me most was:
> "Please leave us alone, we just want happiness" (or something like that).
> I'm sure that the Tibetans use this sentence more often than
> anybody on earth. If the CCP will only listen.....
> 
Maintaining Tibet a part of China is CCP's duty, as other Chinese governments'.
It will get into BIG trouble if it doesn't do that job well.

> Even from the point of view of economic prosperity alone, without
> any consideration for morality, I think it'll be better for China
> to let Tibet goes. What could you derive from such a barren land
> like Tibet? 

It has nothing to do with the economy. It IS a morality issue. In Chinese
morality, no matter how ugly, how sick your mother is, the sons and dauthers
suppose to take good care of her. (Otherwise, it is considered immoral). 
But in some civilized places, they just push the old man, or old into the
parking lot. 
> 
> In reality, most Hans will never and can never live in the harsh, barren,
> , cold, high-altitude land of Tibet.

REALLY, didn't some TI information agency say that Han Chinese is the majority
there?

> lower altitude part of it, they have suffered tremendously from
> high-altitude sicknesses. They were there because of incentives
> from CCP to swamp the population with Hans to justify their territory
> acquisition based on number of population.

How did you get that idea? Has such thing happened somewhere?
I guess that indeed happened somewhere. But you don't need that in Tibet. The
history shows.

> Moreover, Tibet will be a natural buffer zone for Indo-Chinese conflicts;

You suggest to use our brothers' flesh as a shield. That is cheating! Chinese
morality doesn't allow that.
> 
> All thing considered, I think it'll be better off for China to let
> Tibet goes. Of course, a  lone, part-time hatred-instigator like me 
> can only suggest, the decision is up to the peace-loving Chinese populace.
> 
Yes, you can only suggest. In my opinion, you suggestion is no good, especially
immoral. The Chinese (Han, Tibetan, etc.) are peace-loving. They don't
artificailly create conflicts in the world, and watch the killings for fun.

> Assuming that I am successful in brainwashing most of netters (and
> hopefully some CCP officials, too), may I suggest further that, at

You can assume. You can suggest.
                                                   
> 
> Meanwhile, the PLA deployed in Tibet could send further goodwills to
> the Tibetan people by stoping all forms of cruelty and help restore
> all the temples and other infrastructures that were destroyed during
> the occupation. 
      ^^^^^^^^^^
May I ask you why you use the word "occupation"? From which Chinese gov the
occupation occured? Or you just assume?

>The gov should stop sending Han masses to swamp Tibet
> by stopping  the incentive program.

If it has been swamped for 40 years. I guess there isn't any room left.

> When the Dalai Lama and the Tibetans 
> in exile go back home, they will thus be rejoice and be thankful to the 
> Chinese, which means a good beginning of a new prosperous friendship of the
> two nations. 
>
Dalai Lama has to be hurry. Otherwise, his followers may get some dificulties
to look the next living god if he is still out side of the country. Remember,
when finding him, they looked all over China. Eventurally he was found in
Qinghai. This time, his followers may have to go to the Chinese Embassy in
India to ask the CCP to find one for them.
 
> BTW, don't forget to remove the slave's skin from the Potala Palace 
> before leaving Lhasa :-)
> 
It is a part of the culture. Please don't suggest to destroy it.
> 
> Praise be to those who are righteous.
> -Tawit
> 
Sorry for some deletes.
Ma
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> Please don't have high self-esteem; we have enough sufferings already.