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From: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Subject: Re: Devils 4, Rangers 2
Keywords: hockey, men's professional, broadcast
Reply-To: gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare)
Organization: The Bates Motel
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 01:28:34 GMT

clarinews@clarinet.com (UPI) writes in clari.sports.hockey:
>
>	EAST RUTHERFORD, N.J. (UPI) -- Bobby Holik recorded his first
>career hat trick Saturday night to carry the New Jersey Devils to a
>4-2 victory over the New York Rangers.
>...

I was able to listen to SportsChannel New York's audio for this game
last night (too bad that they didn't do their usual free preview for
the opening weekend this year), with ESPN's Gary Thorne working for
his second paycheque here. (-; The MSG and WABC radio announcers were
also jumping up and down as much as Thorne and Peter MacNab were, so 
from that and the game highlights, it was one hell of a game ... it
looks like John McMullen's dreams have come true, Devils-Rangers are
a hot ticket!

>	It marked the first hat trick for a New Jersey player since
>Peter Stastny had three goals on Dec. 29, 1991. Holik has four goals
>in three games, three of them coming on the power play. Last season
>with Hartford, Hartford had one power-play tally in 76 games.

Would it be rude of me to comment that someone in Hartford might be
feeling very stupid about they way that the Whalers have used Holik
in the last 2-3 years?  I mean, he was buried on their third line...

>	Craig Billington made 29 saves and stopped Brian Leetch from 
>close range in the final 30 seconds before Randy McKay sealed the
>victory with an empty-net tally with just over four seconds left.

You could actually feel everyone in the Meadowlands rink jump up when
that play happened; Thorne's engineers were moving the levels down as
Gary was in spasms at that point, MacNab going "Whoa!  Whoa! Whoa!"
in the background ...

>	Joe Kocur staked the Rangers to a 1-0 lead with a power-play
>goal at 1:49 of the opening period.

Well, it looks like the Rangers have learned a few lessons from last
year and are doing a little line-juggling ... (-;

>	Billington improved to 3-0 lifetime against the Rangers.
>	Vanbiesbrouck stopped 20 shots.

The Sunday Times' Sports has a good article on Devils' goaltending
coach Warren Strelow.  Apparently, Herb Brookes has been using him
since his days at U. of Minnesota, and he lets Strelow determine 
the starting goaltender for that night.

gld
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From: mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok)
Subject: Re: Borschevsky (wasRe: NHL STATS FOR OCTOBER 7th)
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:43:52 GMT

What is the age cutoff?  I have been meaning to find that out.
what about the other restrictions?

Thanks
Matt
From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: games on SCA
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:57:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: hsdndev.1982
Organization: HMS

In article <16880D314.GRET@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU> GRET@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU writes:
>
> 
>   Since ESPN has friday night hockey games this year will SCA still
>be showing games other than my home teams (the hawks) road games??
>   If they will be showing any others does anybody have a schedule??
> 
>      thanks
>             Bob

SCA will only televise games of its local franchises in their own markets.
The BlackHawks have a deal with SportsChannel Chicago and that's where
you'll find all BlackHawks games.

ESPN has bought the rights from NHL to televise selected games nationally.
Therefore,SCA affiliates CAN'T feed their regional broadcasts into its sister
system markets. If that would happen, ESPN would sue SCA's ass and win.

Here's the SC-5 which own local hockey rights in their respective NHL
markets :

Hartford - SportsChannel NE
NJ Devils/NY Islanders - SportsChannel NY
Chicago                - SportsChannel Chicago
Philadelphia           - PRISM
San Jose               - SportsChannel

-PPV Mark
From: DMB144@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: street hockey league info
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:47:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92281.144754DMB144
Organization: Penn State University


     I play street hockey in Hershey on Sunday afternoons with a bunch of guys.
  We were wondering if there were any street hockey leagues starting up soon.
We played in one in York, PA during last spring and one in Lancaster the two su
mmers before that.  Right now we are searching for someplace to play.  E-mail m
e, phone me, or write me.

                          Thanks,
                          Doug Banks

 Doug Banks                                          (717)737-3826
 29 South 24th Street
 Camp Hill, PA 17011
From: tiok_jk@tac.fi (Juha Koivisto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: SM liiga - Karpat?
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:57:53 +0300
Organization: City of Tampere

In article <gmarven.718572782@sanjuan>, gmarven@sanjuan.UVic.CA (Grant Marven) writes:
> Can anyone give me any information about the finnish team 
> from Oulu, Karpat?  I thought they were to be contenders for 
> SM liiga.  Have they lost again?

Yes, there were qualifying games for the league places.
The 11th of the league (Tappara from Tampere) played against
the 2nd of 1st division (Karpat from Oulu) and the 12th of the league
played against the winner of 1st division (K-Espoo from Espoo).
These games were played in the best of five method.

Here are the results of the games between Karpat and Tappara:

3/19/92  Tappara - Karpat  7-3  (1-3, 2-0, 4-0)
3/22/92  Karpat - Tappara  8-4  (1-1, 3-2, 4-1) 
3/26/92  Tappara - Karpat 12-3  (7-1, 2-0, 3-2)
3/29/92  Karpat - Tappara  0-5  (0-1, 0-2, 0-2)

So Tappara is now playing in the SM-LIIGA and Karpat is still
in the Finnish first division.

FINNISH I DIVISION STANDINGS after October 8th 1992

Team   (Town)              G  W T L  GF-GA   P
==============================================
KooKoo (Kouvola)           9  5 3 1  61-22  13
Karpat (Oulu)             10  5 3 2  49-30  13
TuTo (Turku)               9  6 1 2  37-24  13
----------------------------------------------
JoKP (Joensuu)            10  5 3 2  45-35  13
Kiekko-67 (Turku)          9  5 1 3  34-25  11
FoPS (Forssa)              9  5 0 4  44-36  10
Vantaa HT (Vantaa)         8  4 1 3  36-26   9
Junkkarit (Kalajoki)       9  4 1 4  37-52   9
SaiPa (Lappeenranta)       9  4 0 5  30-38   8
K-Kissat (Helsinki)        8  2 1 5  25-43   5
Centers IFK (Pietarsaari)  7  0 0 7  23-50   0
----------------------------------------------
HJK (Helsinki)             7  0 0 7  17-57   0
==============================================

> Thanks.  Andi.
> respond to gmarven@sanjuan.uvic.ca

-- 
Juha Koivisto   *  Department of Information Technology
tiok_jk@tac.fi  *  City of Tampere, Finland
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 11:15:15 -0400 
From: Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Pacifiers in honor of Lindros


Jim Murawski writes:

>I understand that at tonight's Flyers/Nordiques game in Le Colisee, Quebec
>City radio station CHIK will be handing out pacifiers to the first 3000 fans
>who think Eric is a big baby.

This is the tackiest thing I ever heard.  

I guess for once it will be the fans, not the players and officials,
who suck.

Mom.

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From: mjmelvil@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (mark)
Subject: Quebec's fast start...
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:30:18 GMT

whats up with the NO-dicks? a 4-0 record?????
suddenly they have grown the additional male appendage...

Mark
mjmelville@descartes.uwaterloo.ca
University of Waterloo class of 94

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From: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Daryl Turner)
Subject: Re: Who is this man ? ;-)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:55:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.132704.1715@tac.fi> tiot_kk@tac.fi (Kimmo Kauranen) writes:
>In article <1992Oct15.161423.11161@cbnewsi.cb.att.com>, bks2@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (bryan.k.strouse) writes:
>> 
>> Edmonton Oilers  (0-4-1)   1   2   0   -   3
>> Winnipeg Jets    (2-3-0)   3   2   2   -   7
>> 	    WIN, Selanne 3 - (Housley, Olausson) (pp) 9:07
>> 	    WIN, Selanne 4 - 16:46
>> 	    WIN, Selanne 5 - (Olausson, Housley) (pp) 13:48
>
>	    Who is this man and where is he coming from ? ..... ;-)
>
>-- 
>-------------------------------------------------------
>Kimmo Kauranen  *  Department of Information Technology
>                *  City of Tampere, FINLAND

Gosh, Kimmo, I don't know, but whoever he is, and wherever he's from,
I darn well like him.  <even bigger grin>  (And you forgot to show his
assist in that game too.  He's 5+4=9 in only 5 games.)  How does my
.sig look?  (Basic idea BLATANTLY stolen from Nelson Lu.)


Daryl Turner : r.s.h contact for the Winnipeg Jets 
Internet: umturne4@ccu.umanitoba.ca -or- daryl.turner@mailbox.bison.mb.ca 
FidoNET: 1:348/701 -or- 1:348/4  (please route through 348/700)
Tkachuk over to Zhamnov, up to Selanne, he shoots, he scores! 
The Jets win the Cup!  The Jets win the Cup!
Essensa for Vezina!  Housley for Norris!  Selanne for Calder!
From: costa@masg1.epfl.ch (Daniel Costa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: HELP! NHL schedule for the 91-92 season required
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:22:01 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

Hi folks !

Does anyone of you have the original NHL schedule for the 1991-92 season ?
By original, I mean the schedule that was established before the strike
occured at the end of the season. In fact I already have the modified
schedule for the 91-92 season. I would like to know how was the calendar
of the NHL between April 1 and April 5, 1992 in the old version of the 
schedule (before the strike).

I need the original schedule in order to compare it with the one produced
by an algorithm I have developed.

Other possibility : Does somebody knows a newspaper reporting hockey news
where I could apply in order to get the information I am interested in ? 
If this is the case, do you have the address (or fax number) of the
editorial offices of such a journal ? It is very difficult to get this
information in Europe. I have heard about a weekly journal the name of
which is "Hockey News". Who knows it ?

I thank your very much for your help.

Cheers,

Daniel

My address is : Daniel Costa
                Departement de Mathematiques
                Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne
                1015 Lausanne (Switzerland)
                e_mail : costa@masg21.epfl.ch
                fax : +41 21 693 43 03
From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Subject: Opening Night Hockey
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Reply-To: kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:34:13 GMT
Distribution: na
 

IT'S HOCKEY SEASON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Excuse me, while I try
to control myself).  I caught the first ESPN game last night and I
must say that the announcers could not be more bland or less  
enthusiastic if they tried.  Although they did refrain from making
alot of idiotic comments that seem to abound with commentators
of the local team's television station (in our area = Prime Ticket).
What did other people think of the ESPN commentators?

Even though I thought Philadelphia played a bit below par against
Pittsburgh, their goalie Dominic Roussel is phenomenal (watch out
Barrasso!).  If he can keep up that level of goaltending, this
young player has a profitable future ahead of him.

And yes, I must mention the Kings who with a grit and determination 
not shown AT ALL last year managed to pull themselves together
and beat the Calgary Flames in overtime with a score of 5 - 4.
(Give Barry Melrose a raise for finally motivating this team!!)

Since I am probably boring the net readers to death, I will sign off . . .  

Kris
kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu

GO KINGS!!

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Subject: Pens/Canucks tickets for sale
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 13:08:18 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

For sale - pens/canucks tickets tuesday night - tickets discounted $10.00 -
Regular price - 2 tickets for 76.00 - yours for just $66.00 - see two of
the top teams in the league - the undefeated, untied 3-0-0 vancouver canucks
vs. the undefeated Penguins 2-0-2.  first come, first serve.  Hurry - tickets
will go fast!  please e-mail your address and phone number and I will get the
tickets to you a.s.a.p.
-rob
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From: cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI)
Subject: Re: Your expert opinions??
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 04:55:23 GMT


I noticed that everyone is skipping over Rick Tocchet in this 'pool'.
I was checking out the stats of various players who had been traded, and
this is what their projected totals would have been had they played the
entire season ONLY with their second team (or had they not been injured):

1. Pat Lafontaine.....131    (93 in 57 games)
2. Rick Tocchet.......126    (30 in 19 games & great playoff)
3. Craig Janney.......115    (36 in 25 games)
4. Joe Sakic..........109    (94 in 69 games)
5. Doug Gilmour........98    (49 in 40 games)

Pierre Turgeon, Mark Recchi, Adam Oates were all at approx the same level.

Oh, yeah:  If Mario Lemieux would have played all 80 games last year,
he would have had 164 points.  Not bad, but not even close to Gretzky's 215.

BTW, I think if Mario plays close to 84 games this year, he probably will
beat the scoring record.   (My demented opinion)

--Dave
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Subject: Capitals
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:24:39 MDT
 <1992Oct6.233140.16844@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> <1992Oct7.135418.2763@mtroyal.ab.ca> <arbogastw.24.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu>
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <arbogastw.24.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu>, arbogastw@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu (Warren Arbogast) writes:

> If they had a star capable of taking them to the next level, if Rod Langway 
> was a few years younger, and if Kevin Hatcher and Mike Pivonka had a 200:1 
> chance of being anything close to leaders, I MIGHT be tempted to play the 
> Caps too.
> 
> Even though I haven't and don't gamble, I've "played" this team for years.
> You're right, they came close last year.  And at 20:1 last year's team would 
> have been a good "bet."  But don't be fooled, this year's team is not last 
> year's team.
> 
> Bob Carpenter, Don Beaupre, and the ever-aging Rod Langway are not 
> Chanmpionship material.  You may want to "play" the Caps, but unless Dave 
> Poile makes a major move - something he has failed to do since the Langway 
> deal TEN years ago - you're tossing your bucks away.

But the Caps really haven't changed much from last year. With the exception of
trading Ciccarelli for Miller (which I think they won), and Druce for Elynuik,
(which I think they won), it's the same team. Langway was old and slow last
year, too. 

I really DON'T think the Caps are going to win the Cup, since they have to get
past Pittsburgh first and I don't think they can. But at 20:1 odds, that's
not a half bad gamble.

							Alan
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:06:32 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Pens/Canadiens post game

On Sat. night, the Pens did the usual - and that is NOT WIN in the Montreal
Forum - where the only have 4 wins in 50-something tries.  The biggest
disappointment was when the Pens once again blew their 3-1 lead and settled
for a 3-3 tie.  Also, the Penguins failed to capitalize on a major penalty
with 2:00 minutes left in regulation that also lasted 3:00 into the overtime.
Hopefully, these missed opportunities for points won't be costly come April.
    On a bright note though, the Penguins penalty killing continued to shine.
The Penguins killed off two 2-man advantages.  Tippet and Stapleton played very
well.  'Til Tuesday.................
-Rob
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Subject: Re: Borschevsky (wasRe: NHL STATS FOR OCTOBER 7th)
From: caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca
Date: 10 Oct 92 01:14:39 MDT
Organization: Mount Royal College, Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Oct8.184352.21505@scott.skidmore.edu>, mmilitzo@scott.skidmore.edu (matthew militzok) writes:
> What is the age cutoff?  I have been meaning to find that out.
> what about the other restrictions?
> 
> Thanks
> Matt

To be eligible for the Calder Trophy, a player "cannot have played more than 25
games in any single preceeding season, nor in six or games in each of any two
preceeding seasons in any major professional league. To be eligible for this
award, a player must not have attained his 26th birthday by September 15th of
the season in which he is eligible."

I wonder, do they count the Finnish and Swedish leagues as "major professioanl
leagues"? If they do, then a guy like Selanne would not be eligible. They never
counted the Russian league as one, though. Witness Sergei Makarov and Pavel
Bure...

								Alan
From: IO11330@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (the DM)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Ruzicka HURT??? Reply A.S.A.P... :-)
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:36:34 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

As of Monday Ruzicka wasn't he had a Hat Trick against Ottawa.....
From: rwinkel@acsu.buffalo.edu (Robert Winkel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Bob Sweeny becomes a Sabre
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:23:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB

In article <1970@hsdndev.UUCP> nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder) writes:
>		...some stuff deleted...

>He was scratched out for last night's win against the Whalers and today
>he was placed on waivers. Buffalo Sabres picked him up for some unknown
>reasons.


Well all I can say is...Thank You very much Boston for GIVING him to the
Sabres!!! In 2 games he has 3 goals and 4 or 5 assists. Not bad for a
"waste product" huh?  I think he fits in very nicely as the Sabres third
line center. With production like that, who can argue. I'll bet Meehan and
Muckler are smiling from ear to ear by now and Boston maybe, just maybe,
kicking themselves in the ass. I can't wait to see what Sweeney does when
the Sabres play Boston. Sweeney used to kill the Sabres, I guess it's time
he returns the favor to Boston. :) :)

>			...more stuff deleted...
>-PPV Mark

Thanks again Boston!!!

Robb
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From: "allan canney" <allan.canney@canrem.com>
Subject: best line?
Reply-To: "allan canney" <allan.canney@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 9 Oct 92 16:32:21 EST

-> In article <1apnfkINNa3q@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
-> ab870@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eri > Which line in hockey do you think
-> would be the best this year? >
-> > Stevens-Lemieux-Tocchett
-> >
-> > or
-> >
-> > Brind'amour-Lindros-Recchi
-> >
-> > or even...
-> >
-> > Whoever plays on the left-Yzerman-Ciccerelli
->
-> I thought the lines were:
->
-> Stevens-Lemieux-Jagr
-> Fedyk-Lindros-Recchi (Fedyk replaces the injured Eklund)
-> Gallant-Yzerman-Ciccarelli (Gallant gets another chance with Stevie)
-> I could be wrong on some of these, but if they're correct I'd take a
-> line with Mario Lemieux, Kevin Stevens, and Jaromir Jagr any day.

What about

        Shanahan-Janney-Hull

Slick Playmaker with High scoring winger and a grinder
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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Bri Farenell ("Droopy"))
Subject: Re: American Born
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:49:11 GMT

mjmelvil@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (mark) writes:

>In article <1992Oct12.125652.27641@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>, tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Tim Connors ) writes:
>> 
>> My friends and I never agree on one thing: Who's the best American born
>> hockey player. There are a number of strong possibilities, but I think
>> that its a tossup between Jeremy Roenick and Pat Lafontaine. Different
>> styles, but both very effective. There are strong arguments for Jimmy
>> Carson, Brian Leetch and Phil Housley as well. Leetch is without
>> question the best defenceman ever produced by the U.S. , if not by
>> anywhere, but as far as forwards go, I'll stick with Pat and Jeremy.
>> I also think that Richter is the best goalie.
>>          tconnors@morgan.ucs.mun.ca
>>               Tim Connors
>> P.S. For the record, Brett Hull was born in Canada.
>> 

>Ahhhh, Excuse me but Bobby Orr was without question the best ever defenseman
>*anywhere* and possibly even the best overall, or at least in the top 5..

Yeah, so? The psoter was talking about American-born players. I
believe Orr was born in Ontario.
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From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: NHL (Cleveland) Trivia Question
Summary: They were, all right...
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:20:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Rice University

In article <1992Oct13.134823.11941@cbnews.cb.att.com> chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller) writes:
>
>	A freind of mine and I are in a HEATED DISCUSSION, and maybe a few
>of the more knowledgable fans out there can help clarify our disagreement.
>
>	In the 1975-1976 and 1976-1977 seasons Cleveland had a profesional 
>Hockey team of some sorts.
>
>	I feel it was the (NHL) Cleveland Barons, that eventually folded
>and joined forces or became the NOW Minnesota North Stars.
>
>	My freind feels that the Cleveland Barons were NEVER an (NHL) team
>and the Cleveland Barons were no more than an (AHL) or (IHL) team. And that
>the Minnesota North Stars were formed sometime in the 1960's.
>
>	Which is the correct answer, or are neither of us correct!

You're both wrong *and* right.  The Stars started play in 1967, as one of
the six expansion teams that season.  Another one of the six 1967 entries,
the California Golden Seals, pulled up stakes and moved to Cleveland for the
'76-'77 season, and played two seasons there as the Cleveland Barons.  The
Barons were merged with the Stars in the off-season in 1978, and the
resulting team played in Minnesota.
(Cleveland had pro hockey before the Barons, though -- the Crusaders played
four seasons in the WHA, before they moved to Minnesota in '76...)

--PLH, still a Houston Aeros fan after all these years

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