From: swood@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Scott Wood - EVENSONG)
Subject: Re: Hunters Needed
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:14:39 GMT

jjohnson@convex.com (Jenifer L. Johnson) writes:



`Jeff Achenbach writes:

`> 
`>              HUNTERS and ANTI-ANIMAL RIGHTISTS
`>      The Fund For Animals invites YOU to the third Bi-Annual
`>              TEXAS CONFERENCE FOR THE ANIMALS
`> 
`>Perhaps your fondest dream:  Get Ingrid Newkirk and Wayne Pacelle in the
`>crosshairs for a debate!
`> 
`>The public is invited to this event.  However, as of this posting, no one has
`>stepped forward to take them on in public - _even_ after a comprehensive
`>search.  Furthermore, several hunting advocates have backed out of the debate
`>after first accepting the invitation.
`> 
`>>Don't they know Oct. 1 is opening day of bow season? Also small game? You
`>>really think hunters are going to go see these folks instead of going out
`>>in the woods?

`This event was scheduled to coincide with the Texas Parks & Wildlife Dept.'s
`Hunting Expo, also in Austin next weekend.

`Included in those 700 are Ted Nugent, self-proclaimed hunting advocate, George
`W. Bush, and Nolan Ryan.  The Morning News article said that Nugent will be
`performing a 30-minute mini-concert to attract attention to his anti-drug,
`pro-hunting message directed at kids, and quoted Nugent as saying, "The kids
`listen to me because I play rock n' roll, and I speak the truth with great
`passion.  It works like magic."

`If Nugent believes his message "works like magic," then why does he refuse to
`participate in the FoA debate?  It's certainly not because he's going to be
`busy bowhunting that day.

`So what`s the real reason we can't find even two hunters out of the bunch who
`are willing to test their views against two members of the opposition?  If the
`leaders of the AR movement are simply disseminators of misinformation,
`wouldn't this be a wonderful opportunity for those level-headed hunters to
`give us the facts?  Or are hunters afraid to test beliefs based largely on
`tradition and myth against the well-founded arguments of Ingrid and Wayne?

`I'll be in Austin for the Conference and for the debate, so I can post a
`followup as to whether any of those ~700 noble, level-headed hunters could
`muster the conviction and the courage to stand up to a bunch of gullible,
`Bambi-worshipping vegetarians.  My guess is that the hunters will prove
`themselves to be the cowards we AR folks suspect they are.

What is the purpose for the fee?  Just because a group decides to hold a
debate does not mean that the opposing side is going to want to show up.
Granted someone should, but I am sorry if I am bit skeptical about a group
that is debating something I am against and is charging admission.

If your debate truely needs equal sides to the arguement, and if in fact the
cost is just to cover the expenses of the event, get me a couple of
complimentary passes, and I will personally deliver them to Ted's offices
in Jackson, Michigan.  In fact, if you get one for me, I consider hoppin in my
little red truck and driving all the way to Austin to join the debate and
miss opening weekend of Archery bow in my home state of Michigan in the
name of truth.
But put money in the hands of the adversary and spend all that money and
time to go all the way to Austin to do so?  NOT!!!!


swood
-- 
Michigan Archery deer season opens October 1st!!!!!
 I will be sure to be out there, enjoying the sunrise and watching the
  critters roam about.  Whether or not I get a deer or not, the sunrise
   will still be there, and so will I.