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From: jpt@telecaster.think.com (James P. Taylor)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: gay-positive soap opera character
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:42:55
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
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In-reply-to: kfj@hpuerca.atl.hp.com's message of Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:27:14 GMT

In article <C01CpE.ILJ@hpuerca.atl.hp.com> kfj@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kirk Johanning) writes:

[lots of stuff deleted.]

   Well, IMHO, the only real way to watch a soap is to tape it during the
   week and then on the weekend breeze through all 5 hour-long episodes
   in about 3 1/2 hours.


   >It's "One Life to Live."  I'm pretty impressed too.  They did a


   I remember seeing an interview of Ryan Phillippe (Billy Douglas) on
   Entertainment Tonight a while back, right as he was telling the local
   priest that he was gay, in which he claimed to have had some internal
   struggle about portraying a gay character but that he had basically
   come to terms with it and it would be ok to do this.

   That interview basically got me interested in "One Life to Life".
   The fact that they were going to do a gay-positive story of a teen and
   that this teen was absolutley CUTE has made me set my VCR to tape the
   show every day since then.

You could do a favor and sell a condensed tape of just Mr. Phillippe. :-)

   I do hope that the writers have a little romance planned for Billy.
   The other character in the above mentioned conversation, Rick Mitchell,
   is also pretty cute.  The way that he was looking at Billy makes me
   hopeful that this is just what they are planning on doing ;-)

jim
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From: emcmanus@gr.osf.org (Eamonn McManus)
Subject: Ablatives
Organization: Open Software Foundation Research Institute, Grenoble
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:00:43 GMT

adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>Ablative, accusative.  Who can keep them straight?

Nobody, of course.  They are oblique.

,
Eamonn, also oblique
From: klotz@lclark.edu (Gretchen Klotz)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Homos in the bible
Keywords: bible
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:13:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Dec29.221354.25859
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <Bzzqx8.CH@exnet.co.uk> s0xjg@exnet.co.uk (Xavier Gallagher) writes:
>
>Jesus was, ofcourse, gay.  Afterall what would *you* do with 12 men
>of your own choice in a desert for three years?

Here's some additional evidence, paraphrased from Carol Steinel's
soon-to-be hit song "Biblical Schizophrenia:"

Jesus wore dresses and had long hair.

He washed his disciples feet.

He was meek and never married or had children.

"GET A CLUE!!!"

We were musing on xmas day: what would Jesus think of cars?  Not to
mention the Catholic Church.  And exactly when *is* his birthday anyway? 
Was he an Aries or a Pisces?  Was the Star of Bethlehem a UFO or a
supernova?  What's for dessert?  How 'bout them Blazers? 

- Gretchen (not xian, not a student of LGBO history, just a music fan... ;-)
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From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Why not cure homosexuality?
Date: 31 Dec 92 14:21:38 GMT
Organization: (getting there)



<MEH124@psuvm.psu.edu> wrote: 
  >->Regarding a previous post that got a good deal of response about
  >->the thought of curing homosexuality, most people on the net seem
  >->strongly opposed to whole idea of a cure.
henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
 >why *should* there be a cure?

What, exactly, is to be cured? 

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From: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Michael Quercio, one of Clinton's "Faces of Hope" at the Inaugural
Date: 30 Dec 1992 16:49:49 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
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One of the "Faces of Hope" at next year's Inauguration will be Michael Quercio,  
a local AIDS activist/educator.  If you catch him on TV, listen.  He's an  
outstanding speaker.  Michael has AIDS and teaches a mandatory AIDS prevention  
course at Worcester Academy, a private school.  Local boy makes good!
Three cheers for diversity! 

*  In Germany they first came for the Communists, and I didn't speak *
*  because I wasn't a Communist.  Then they came for the Jews, and I *
*  didn't speak because I wasn't a Jew. Then they came for the trade *
* unionists, and I didn't speak because I wasn't a trade unionist... *
*Then they came for me--and by that time no one was left to speak up.*
*  Rev. Martin Niemoeller     [Why to March on Washington in April]  *
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From: albrigh@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (thomas g albright)
Subject: Re: The word 'homophobia'
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 20:52:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.075716.18901@reed.edu>, nelson@reed.edu (Nelson
Minar) wrote:

>> There is at least one case where "homophobia", as in "fear of
>> homosexuals", is exactly right: to describe people who recognize their
>> own homosexual tendencies (even mild tendencies) but are afraid of
>> them, and so they take out their fear or prove their straightness by
>> harassing/hurting queers. This response is motivated by fear, fear of
>> their own sexuality.

According to the Kinsey Institute Thesaurus of Sexual Nomenclature, this
phenomenon is called "homosexual panic," not "homophobia."  Feelings
besides fear may give rise to this condition.

-Tom Albright

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From: jhansen@convex.com (James Hansen)
Subject: Re: "cures" for homosexuality
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:19:45 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Dec22.170637.15042@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> mudge@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (MUDGE BRIAN WAYNE) writes:

>  From THE GAY BOOK OF LISTS, 11 Alleged Cures for Homosexuality, 

>7.) Physical Therapy, according to one theory, prostate massage kills 
>    "homosexual cells" and replaces them with "healthy heterosexual cells".

I bet the patient couldn't wait for the weekly therapy session to roll
around either.  :-)

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From: d000dlphi@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (David Speakman)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Goodbye for now.
Date: 2 Jan 93 23:18:13 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

Well, break is over for me.

I might not be posting again for about 4 months.

(work is such a bitch!)

Anyway, I'll see (read) all of you wonderful people in May!
              
David Speakman   

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From: pauli@uniblab.asd.sgi.com (Paul Isaacs)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Fun with Anagrams
Date: 29 Dec 1992 21:24:10 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
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Pat Robertson = Stop Boner Art!


pauli

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From: rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Denver Post: "Amendment 2 boycott spurs backlash"
Date: 4 Jan 93 02:09:48 GMT
Organization: insert anything here

gerber@boulder.parcplace.com (Andrew Gerber) writes:
>
>From today's Denver Post; Sunday, January 3, 1992
>Amendment 2 boycot spurs backlash:
>
>A new Denver Post/News 4 Poll shows there's a backlash in Colorado to
>the growing national boycott of the state over Amendment 2, the
>citizen intiative that barred laws protecting gays.
>People are more angry than ahamed, and they don't think a repeal
>effort would succeed.
>

	[stats deleted]

>Boycotting Colorado is not likely to change the opinions of
>individuals.  A Colorado resident is not likely to be effected by the
>boycott directly; we are in the midst of an economoic upturn which
>might be slowed, but not stopped by a boycott.  The people affected
>most directly are the politicians, and many of the politicians in this
>state have been firmly behind No on 2.

	So?

	I'll say it again, so?

	What should we do then, *reward* their stubbornness by sending them
our $$$ and our business?  Of COURSE there's a backlash, we still have
to get over the heterosexist priv hump first.  See, we're impinging on their
way of life, nasty us.  We're demanding equality and they want us silent.
They don't like what we're doing because it upsets their idyllic 
homosexual-free existence.  The numbers in the stats say that *in principle*
most people don't have a problem with equality, but IN PRACTICE they
aren't too sure about it.

	Keep pushing --- eventually it will break.  Giving up now, 
pretty much is the same as going back into the closet.  You
can expect me to believe that the CFV is about to stop with THIS win
do you?  Even inside of COlorado?  They're sitting back and waiting
to launch phase 2.

	Notice that "home rule" doesn't seem to matter much when it
comes to queer rights.  IF they were to put it in for everyone, I'll
bet there would be quite the uproar.

	As I see it about 40% of the people in CO are probably our friends.
That's much higher than it would have been 5 years ago.  We just
need to keep pushing, keep being resolute, and keep being out and
visible.

BBC
From: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Motss pix
Date: 28 Dec 92 04:39:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Dec28.043924.11654
Reply-To: nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar)
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR

In article <1992Dec27.123529.6995@fuug.fi> an3360@anon.penet.fi writes:
>Is this newsgroup monopolised by ex-groupies for the Grateful Dead?

Wouldn't that be nice?

Swoon.
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From: jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Soc.Motss.*
Date: 24 Dec 92 22:34:46 GMT
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto

In article <1992Dec23.230036.174564@zeus.calpoly.edu> jkusters@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chrome Jester) writes:
>How would "soc.motss.support" do?  Unless people are obsessing on jock
>straps, I think it would be pretty clear just what the group would be for,
>expressing support for each other or calls for such support.

Sounds to me like a support group for people who can't find the time to
keep up with the n! threads and backlog of articles.  That's probably not
what you had in mind.

Brian
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From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: Private antidiscrimination policies in CO (was Re:
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 01:39:58 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <1i02veINNftp@hp-col.col.hp.com> smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
>My personal experiences tell me that it isn't as bad as 
>I read people here saying it is.  Others say it is.  I
>am looking to reconcile in my own mind the reality of 
>the situation.   

Do you have personal experience on the potential receiving end
of homophobia-based discrimination?
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From: rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese)
Subject: Re: Private antidiscrimination policies in CO
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 02:26:40 GMT
Organization: QueerNet

In article <1i07ulINNi1s@hp-col.col.hp.com> smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:
>I've never seen 
>anyone beaten for being gay, although i've occasionally 
>seen it in the news.  I don;t think gay-bashing is a majority 
>sport, that is what I'm saying.  

I have been beaten for being gay.

My boyfriend has been beaten for being gay.

Most of my friends have been beaten for being gay.

"Majority sport" or not, you're off-base.
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From: jclander@symphony.mitre.org (Julian C. Lander)
Subject: Re: Gay/Lesbian band at Inaugural: Musings and Details
Reply-To: jclander@mitre.org (Julian C. Lander)
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, Va
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 14:22:57 GMT

In article <=k12wy#@rpi.edu>, buckmr@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:
|> I think I read somewhere that the glb marching band is going to be somehere
|> at the head of the procession, is that true?
|>

Not quite.  The Lesbian and Gay Bands of America are providing a band to
entertain along Pennsylvania Avenue between 9th and 10th Streets, NW, 
before and after the inauguration itself.  We are not marching in 
the actual parade.

Although this is a lesser honor, it makes sense for non-lgb reasons.  
We're not a precision marching band by any means, and we won't have
time to get together a routine.  We also don't have uniforms. (The
individual bands have uniforms of different types; there is not
national uniform.)  I suspect that our performance is better
suited to standing still than marching. 

There has been a great deal of press interest in this.  The 
Washington Post reported on it as part of their coverage of
the inaugural festivities.  It seems as though our presence in 
the official events is remarkable enough--that we're not marching
is very much a secondary issue.

Julian C. Lander
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From: todd@toolz.uucp (Todd Merriman)
Subject: Re: Cramer is our problem too.
Organization: Software Toolz, Inc.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 02:01:05 GMT

Clayton Cramer is an effective fag-baiter.  He has sent me into
a tizzy more than once!  But, if you remain calm, you'll see how
pathetic his arguments are:  no substance, and nothing but
provocation.  It is not debate he engages in, it is arrogant
put-downs. He thrives on your anger, and your wasted energy 
makes him feel empowered.   

The only one he should be debating with is a psycho-therapist.

Save your wits for someone who really wants to hear your side of
the story.

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From: kgdykes@thinkage.on.ca (Ken Dykes)
Subject: Devil DJ's
Organization: Thinkage Ltd.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:36:17 GMT

In article <72120@cup.portal.com> Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>a flying squirrel scrivens on e-acorns:
>Of course, I imagine that being exposed to something like Little
>Caesar in a dance club would cause some people to simply expire

i wouldnt mind exposing myself to Little Ceasar.. oh, ummm...

>on the spot.

if anyone expires on my followspot i will kill them! :-)

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From: thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Dorrance)
Subject: Re: Origin of the term "faggot"
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 07:55:29 GMT

pauli@sgi.com (Paul Isaacs) writes:

>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>>adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson) writes:
>>
>>>foucault@netcom.com (Howard Arthur Faye) writes:
>>
>>>> aa704@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jennifer Engel) quotes:
>>>> >				Guisseppe Verdi
>>>> 				^^^^^^^^^
>>
>>>> Sacrilege!  Impiety! Desecration! PERFIDIA!!!
>>
>>>Maledizione!  Maledizione!  Maledizione!  Maledizione!
>>
>>Morte, morte.  Addio (ancora)!

>Il piangere non vale.

O cessate di piagarmi.

--
thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu * John Dorrance * Disco Diva y Flamenco Chico

      You're like one of those... 'Cabbage Patch' creatures...
From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Small grooming question
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 01:27:00 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Dec28.210354.26186@netcom.com> <1hojorINNs7s@im4u.cs.utexas.edu>

John H. Osborn writes:
>For me, at least, voluntary baldness almost always looks erotic and
>frequently sexy which pretty much makes it the antithesis of those
>insecure types who get absurd haircuts to mask their baldspot (ick).
>Self-confidence vs. insecurity - I think more men would show their
>buttocks in public than their scalp.  Anybody else out their find
>bald men a serious turn-on?

I don't tend to go in for shaven *anything*.  A man who is naturally
bald[ing] and isn't insecure over it is certainly no less attractive
to me generally than someone with a full head of hair -- and on the
right "type," I can find it a definite "additive" to his attractiveness.

[Note that I wouldn't tend to include as a "shaven" person a man
who had "naturally" lost most of his hair, and just shaved the bit
he had left because it was less work to deal with. A matter of
degree and personal taste, obviously.]

 
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Private antidiscrimination policies in CO (was Re: Attention...)
Organization: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 16:25:16 GMT

In article <1i05s9INNhap@hp-col.col.hp.com> smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes:

)Since I've never seen anything *closely* resembling that level 
)of hatred, I doubt it is as extensive as some here seem to think. 

I've never seen anything *closely* resembling the level of 
hatred expressed by the Nazis against the Jews.  But I have no 
doubt at all that it existed, and was far more extensive than 
the limited amount I've read on the subject.

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From: bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps)
Subject: Re: penis size (was Re: Muffin on Parade)
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 00:35:54 GMT

dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
>Again, why do you care?  Is there anything you can do about the size of your
>penis?  No?  Then why expend energy worrying about it?

Or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love Being Treated as a Sex Object.
I think there are more than a few feminists who would find it pretty easy 
to shoot your argument full of holes.

I don't give a flying fuck about people who are only interested in my
dick.  I already have a husband.  I posted this to educate and maybe, 
just maybe, to change a few people's attitudes.  E-mail suggests that 
I succeeded.  Enough said.
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From: Jim-Guy@cup.portal.com (James Lawrence Blastic)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: "Civil Rights"?  or was that Special Rights?
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 00:47:04 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>In article <BzIDDD.40E@fc.hp.com>, jackies@fc.hp.com (Jackie Sheddy X6958) writes:
>>       Apparently,  CFV (we all know who THAT  means)
>
>    Cretins Fornicating Vigorously?
>    Can't Find Vulva?
>    Claptrap For Volk?
>    Criminals For Viciousness?
>    Cranium Found Vactated?

Hmmmm... I think I like the last one the best!
(still searching dictionary for a definition of Vactated)

How about Cheap Fundamentalist Vomit?

-----JimGuy
From: tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett)
Subject: Vegisexuals!
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 18:34:20 GMT

According to Berkeley Breathed in today's Outland News, Bill Clinton
will soon be signing an executive order which allows vegisexuals in to
the comics!

Now, we all know that vegisexuals are already in the comics, have
always been in the comics, and will most likely be in the comics in
the future... but is America really ready to *openly* accept
vegisexuals in to its most precious instatution: The Comics?

Special tabloid alert:  Bill the Cat has been outed as being a
supposed vegisexual!  He was last seen pawing over the latest issue of
Vegi-Boy and wearing the "tell tale navel ring!"

Jeez... is anyone safe?

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