HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: UseNet account wanted...
Date: 22 Dec 92 11:31:44 GMT
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

Hello...  A friend of mine in the city (near Western and Chicago) is about to
be given a computer for the holiday season...

Now, what I'm wondering is:  Is there a public site out there that would be
willing to give her an account to read the net (particularly
alt.sexual.abuse.recovery, and perhaps a couple others)?  I'd refer her to one
of the places where you pay for an account (I'd be buying the account for her,
it's amazing how little one can afford when one tries to live, and raise a 5
year old kid on public aid!  Hence the reason she doesn't just call my system
for an account - can't afford the calls to the burbs!)

Any help would be appreciated!  And thanks in advance!

<><><><>
Krikket (a.k.a. Doug Krick)  ---  krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us
#include<std.disclaimers>    ---  an294@anon.penet.fi
anon-1214@twwells.com        ---  anon.77@pax.tpa.com.au

 "And the Germans killed the Jews.  And the Jews killed the Arabs.
  And the Arabs killed the hostages.  And that is the news."
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: New SF Shows
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 22:46:30 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

Anyone have any information about the broadcast times/dates for the new SF
series that are going to air in January?  The ones I know exist, but don't
know when, are:

    Deep Space 9    (ch  9)
    Babylon 5       (ch 50)
    TimeTrax        (ch 50)

Are there any others?  I don't tend to watch a lot of TV, so I might have
missed an announcement here and there.

I don't suppose any Chicago-area cable networks are looking seriously at the
Sci-Fi Channel?  Jones Intercable in particular?  No, didn't think so...
(Yes, I've already phoned and mailed them.)

--
Steven King, Proprietor of the PShrink Wrap BBS        veck@pshrink.chi.il.us
Data Communications for the Psychology Professional    data: +1 708 540 6772
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: wdp@gagme.chi.il.us (Bill Pfeiffer)
Subject: Re: UseNet account wanted...
Originator: wdp@gagme
Organization: Gagme Public Access UNIX, Chicago, Illinois.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 05:20:09 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.223004.20413@gagme.chi.il.us> pv@gagme.chi.il.us (Paul Vader) writes:
>krikket@meltdown.chi.il.us (D. 'krikket' Krick) writes:
>>Now, what I'm wondering is:  Is there a public site out there that would be
>>willing to give her an account to read the net (particularly

>Both gagme
>and ddsw1 are in Chicago proper, and gagme only costs 50 bucks per year.
>If you're on a budget and don't mind waiting a few days for messages to
>arrive (or, if you don't like your company's weird attitute towards news
>access), then a public access system is a great bargain. PV
>
>P.S. Gagme can be reached on (312) 282-860[6-9]

I second Paul's recomendation.  I have had no complaints here at gagme.  
Greg, the sysadmin, is a very helpful fellow and that is important
for someone starting out.  As Paul said, $50 a year aint bad and Greg is always
upgrading and improving.  He also offers a month free trial on Usenet, and
has uucp, e-mail (fast e-mail) FTPmail and loads of other stuff.

Just dial in to 312-282-8606 and have at it.

Later
William

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling)
Subject: Re: UseNet account wanted...
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 15:37:37 GMT
Organization: ddsw1.MCS.COM Contributor, Chicago, IL

Gagme and ddsw1 are both run by great guys and I would offer the challenge
of leadership to whichever gets the newsfeed back on line first.  All this
talk about Christmas slows is a bunch of smoke.  There has been just about
zero inputs for days.  

I usually wate a few days before complaining when the feed dies because
I presume the sysop is aware of it ubt occassionally he is not.  In this
case, as gagme has the problem also, I presume it is a larger problem that
they both need to fix.

I read a wide enough range of newsgroups that it is pretty obvious when the
feed dies and not just a slow day.

I used to maintian two accounts but when it was obvious that they both are
somehow interconnected for the news, it didn't seem to be worth the cost.

js

Newsgroups: chi.general
From: tonydv@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Antonio DiVenere)
Subject: Re: Cordless soldering iron -- where?
Summary: Correction on earlier response
Keywords: Cordless Soldering Iron
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:22:29 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.022208.18918@news.acns.nwu.edu> tonydv@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Antonio DiVenere) writes:
>Try Newark Electronics.  They have several offices in the Chicagoland area.
>According to a two year old catalog, they have both propane and battery
>rechargeble versions.  The phone number for their Avondale Ave. office in
>Chicago is 312-792-8233. 
>

Sorry, what I intended to type was "butane" and not "propane".  Must have been
day-dreaming of summer and outdoor barbecues :-)

-- 
Antonio DiVenere                  |
Dept. of Physics and Astronomy    |          " He's a Goodfellow "
Northwestern University           |
Evanston, Il 60208                |         tonydv@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: randy@chinet.chi.il.us (Randy Suess)
Subject: Re: UseNet account wanted...
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:50:40 GMT

In article <Bzz7Eq.6BB@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>Gagme and ddsw1 are both run by great guys and I would offer the challenge
>of leadership to whichever gets the newsfeed back on line first.  All this
>talk about Christmas slows is a bunch of smoke.  There has been just about
>zero inputs for days.  
>

	Chinet's satellite news feed has dropped from about 65 megabytes
	per day to about 40-50 megs during the Christmas holidays.


-randy (a not-so-great-guy)

-- 
	I am created Shiva the Destroyer; Death, the shatterer of worlds!
	Who is this dog meat who stands before me now?
	That's the biz, sweetheart.
Randy Suess					 randy@chinet.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.general,chi.ai
From: mitchell@cs.uchicago.edu (Mitchell Marks)
Subject: Re: chi Newsgroups FAQ [last mod: 11/6/92]
Reply-To: mitchell@cs.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computer Science
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 02:44:06 GMT

>>>>> "UA" == Usenet Admin <usenet@chg.mcd.mot.com> writes:

  UA> This posting describes the Chicagoland regional newsgroups
  UA> (chi).  It is meant to be an adjunct to the postings describing
  UA> the net-wide newsgroups. 

[...]

  UA> In addition, there seem to be two or three sites that think that
  UA> a group named "chi.ai" exists.  Our best guess is that this is a
  UA> typo, and that the intended group name is actually something
  UA> like "uchi.ai".

No, these were intended to be distinct:

   uchi.cs.ai  Internal to uchicago, used by the AI group (in the CS
               Dept) at the Univ. of Chicago

   chi.ai      Intended for chi-regional communication on AI topics
               and related matters.

So far as I recall, chi.ai was set up in reasonably regulation manner.
I don't mean to be making any urgings about who should or shouldn't be
carrying it, but may I suggest that you can now resolve the "best
guess" from the passage quoted above.  

Certainly within the last year we've found it useful that chi.ai is
(or at least was) received at Northwestern.  I hope it still is.  Are
you sure it wouldn't be of interest to AI folks at Motorola?  It's
pretty low-traffic, which I suppose could be a plus or a minus.

-- Mitch Marks

P.S. Could someone at Northwestern post a confirmation if you got this
over chi.ai?  Thanks.
--
Mitch Marks    mitchell@cs.uchicago.edu
Personal affections and aesthetic enjoyments include {\it all} the
greatest and {\it by far} the greatest goods we can imagine.
                                                        -- G. E. Moore
From: lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: Connections to clout
Date: 3 Jan 93 15:44:58 GMT
Followup-To: chi.mail
Distribution: chi
Organization: Vpnet Public Access

In article <9301023942@drktowr.chi.il.us> magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto) writes:
>
>I tried 5 minutes later and it worked.  Then I tried 5 minutes after
>that and it didn't work.
>
>Can maybe postmaster(.of-the-month)@clout shed some light on this?
>And maybe some other sysadmins check their logs to see if their
>systems have had any of the same problems?

    Because of the holidays, it's been difficult to get any of the
    University staff to work on this problem.  If the public will
    indulge us one more day, I'm sure it'll all be taken care of.

    By the way, another problem has been that clout occasionally isn't
    available through the tip server.  Possibly there is a connection
    between the two problems because believe it or not, clout has been
    sitting at the University humming away just fine all through this.

    Gerry Swetsky,  System Administrator,  The Clout Project.
    Follow-ups set to chi.mail.

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From: greg@serveme.chi.il.us (Gregory Gulik)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: UseNet account wanted...
Date: 28 Dec 92 21:47:35 GMT
Organization: Gagme Public Access Unix, Chicago, Illinois

In article <Bzz7Eq.6BB@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) writes:
>Gagme and ddsw1 are both run by great guys and I would offer the challenge
>of leadership to whichever gets the newsfeed back on line first.  All this
>talk about Christmas slows is a bunch of smoke.  There has been just about
>zero inputs for days.  

News is running on Gagme.
I try to keep a backup newsfeed ready in case ddsw1 loses it's
feed.

>I usually wate a few days before complaining when the feed dies because
>I presume the sysop is aware of it ubt occassionally he is not.  In this
>case, as gagme has the problem also, I presume it is a larger problem that
>they both need to fix.

It's definitely upstream from both sites.

-greg

-- 
Gregory A. Gulik                                 Call Gagme, a public access
       greg@serveme.chi.il.us                    UNIX system at 312-282-8606
   ||  gulik@rtsg.mot.com                        For information, drop a note
                                                 to info@gagme.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.general,gagme.general
From: marc@marcal.uucp (Marc Veeneman)
Subject: Re: Usenet
Organization: Marcal Systems Corporation
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:29:40 GMT

pv@gagme.chi.il.us (Paul Vader) writes:

>News has been incredibly sparse the last couple weeks (300 messages total in my
>groups for five days). It seemed the huge drop-off coincided with the Christmas
>break. Is everyone seeing this lack of traffic, or is it a local problem with
>my site? PV
>-- 
>Paul Vader            systems analyst, hell's cavenewt, rollerblader,
>pv@gagme.chi.il.us    FOAF, smartass liberal democrat

Students with free access went home for Christmas.  Things heat up
again in January.
-- 
Marc Veeneman
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Monday, 21 Dec 1992 06:03:13 CST
From: <U16028@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: chi.general,uic.computer
Subject: Looking for share-ware


A friend just bought a used 286 machine and is now looking for cheap
software to run on it.  Are there any stores in the Chicago area that
carry share-ware?

Terry
U16028@uicvm.uic.edu
Newsgroups: chi.general
From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Subject: Re: New SF Shows
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:32:43 GMT

veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King) writes:
>Anyone have any information about the broadcast times/dates ...

>    Deep Space 9    (ch  9)

As reported by rec.arts.startrek.info:

 Market          Chan    2hr -Debut      Repeat          Regular
 ----------      ------  -----------     ----------      -------
 Chicago, IL     WGN- 9  Jan 3 @ 7pm     ***             Sun @  7:00p (2)

>    Babylon 5       (ch 50)
>    TimeTrax        (ch 50)

These two are being advertised pretty heavily on channel 50, so you
might want to keep an ear out for specific times.  (I haven't cared
enough to pay attention.)

--                    __
Ellen Keyne Seebacher \/             elle@midway.uchicago.edu
From: akcs.lyfe@vpnet.chi.il.us (Steve Dembo)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: An entrance to Internet
Date: 24 Dec 92 16:55:02 CST

Hey, I'm home from school for about a month, and I need a portal into 
Internet.  Does ANYONE have the number for one?  Basically any true
entrance will do, preferably within the 708 area code, but 312 will do. 
Somebody please help me out!
From: lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky)
Newsgroups: chi.general
Subject: Re: UseNet account wanted...
Date: 29 Dec 92 04:23:15 GMT
Organization: Vpnet Public Access

In article <Bzz7Eq.6BB@ddsw1.mcs.com> arf@ddsw1.mcs.com (Jack Schmidling) pens:

>I usually wate a few days before complaining when the feed dies because
>I presume the sysop is aware of it ubt occassionally he is not.  In this
>case, as gagme has the problem also, I presume it is a larger problem that
>they both need to fix.

    Excuse me Jack, but you're wrong, wrong, wrong.  Greg has switched
    to vpnet for a newsfeed while nucsrl recovers from whatever is
    ailing it over the holidays.  Gagme is getting everything we're
    getting and judging from past experience, this is a normal holiday
    slump.

    No one at vpnet is complaining.  I suggest you ride it out.

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Newsgroups: chi.test
From: jason@oaknet.chi.il.us (Jason Vanick)
Subject: test
Organization: OAKNET - Public Access Unix
Distribution: oaknet
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 17:36:07 GMT

test

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Newsgroups: chi.test
From: jason@oaknet.chi.il.us (Jason Vanick)
Subject: Re: test
Organization: OAKNET - Public Access Unix
Distribution: oaknet
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 17:38:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.173607.21258@oaknet.chi.il.us> jason@oaknet.chi.il.us (Jason Vanick) writes:
>test
test worked
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Newsgroups: chi.test
From: dennis@fnbc.com
Subject: test
Organization: First National Bank Of Chicago, Chicago IL, USA
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 20:54:51 GMT

Jul qvq gur puvpxra pebff gur ebnq?

Orpnhfr gur Jrfgrea Rhebpragevp Znyr qbzvangrq uhzna-enpr ragrerq vgf
jbeyq, erzbirq vgf phygher naq eryvtngrq vg gb n yvsr bs qbzrfgvp 
fhofreivrapr va juvpu vg jnf sbeprq gb cresbez fhpu gnfxf nf pebffvat gur
ebnq (juvpu vf flzobyvp bs uhznavgl'f encr bs gur angheny jbeyq) sbe gur 
fbyr checbfr bs ragregnvavat vg'f bccerffbef.  Ubjrire, gur sbjy jbhyq
ab ybatre fgnaq sbe fhpu vawhfgvpr, naq ershfvat gur qrebtngbel gvgyr bs
"puvpxra", vf eroryyvat ntnvafg n flfgrz gung unf sbeprq vg gb gnxr cneg
va fhpu guvatf nf pbagrzcyngvat jurgure vg cerprqrq vgf bja puvyq, gur  
rtt.
Nf fhpu vg arrqrq gb pneel vg'f zrffntr gb bgure fhssrevat sbjy, jub nyy
unccrarq gb or ba gur bgure fvqr bs gur ebnq.

--
Dennis D. Box          	|   (312) 732-6329 	| "Its FUN to have fun,
My own opinions, not 	| dennis@fnbc.com      	| but you have to know 
my employers. Your 	| ddb@vpnet.chi.il.us	| how!"   -T. Geisel
reactions may vary. 	|  Kill Your Television.
From: dick@smith.CHI.IL.US (Dick Smith)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Testing smith->machine posting link
Date: 31 Dec 92 08:09:40 GMT
Reply-To: dick@smith.CHI.IL.US (Dick Smith)
Distribution: chi
Organization: R. H. E. Smith Corp., Wheeling, IL

Testing smith->machine posting link... I will edit the batch files so
that this message only goes out that way, and we'll see if it gets to
the office tomorrow.

--dick smith				dick@smith.chi.il.us
From: mikebo@i88.isc.com (Michael Borowiec)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: testosterooney
Date: 1 Jan 93 20:30:35 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

Hopefully this won't pass through timesink to machine
Newsgroups: chi.test
From: laser@vpnet.chi.il.us (Paul Lamb)
Subject: CALLING MORGAN
Organization: Vpnet Public Access
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:48:39 GMT

Let me know if your get this Morgs.
From: veck@pshrink.chi.il.us (Steve King)
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: No matter where you go...
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 20:45:20 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

"What's that watermelon doing there?"

--
Steven King, Proprietor of the PShrink Wrap BBS        veck@pshrink.chi.il.us
Data Communications for the Psychology Professional    data: +1 708 540 6772
From: Joe User <juser@pshrink.chi.il.us>
Newsgroups: chi.test
Subject: Test?
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 92 09:42:43 CDT
Distribution: world               
Organization: PShrink Wrap BBS, Lake Zurich IL  +1 708 540 6772

This is only a test.  If this had been an actual emergency, the
attention signal would have been followed by explicit directions
regarding which tables you should hide under to protect yourself from
the nuclear blast.

Newsgroups: chi.test
From: jason@oaknet.chi.il.us (Jason Vanick)
Subject: test
Organization: OAKNET - Public Access Unix
Distribution: oaknet
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 17:31:42 GMT

test
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From: electric@meltdown.chi.il.us (Rick Martinez)
Newsgroups: chi.mail
Subject: Software used/etc.
Date: 26 Dec 92 15:28:09 CST
Organization: The Meltdown - A Team Star BBS

To add a system to the clout project, exactly what type of software/hardware
preferences do you recommend.

As a couple clout members know, I am interested in this project.  Let me know
and I'll see what I can do.  I also might be able to get a shitty little
college (Harper Community College) into this as I know the computer dept.
heads.

Rich

|Animals eat animals     |ADDR1: rmartine@harper.UUCP          *preferred*  |
|Creation eats the winner|ADDR2: electric@meltdown.chi.il.us   *preferred*  |
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|and start back up again |           Commit random acts of Kindness         |
From: magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto)
Newsgroups: chi.mail
Subject: Re: Interest in Clout.
Date: 24 Dec 92 13:14:00 GMT
Organization: DarkTower Software
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Russell Rezaian (rrezaian@austral.chi.il.us) wrote:
: If anyone knows where we can find more drive space for one of the current
: clout nodes, it would be appreciated!  We have been running VERY tight on
: space for some months now.  Fortunatly we have been quite lucky and have
: not had our spool space get swamped all that often, but even once was too
: much, and it has happened more than once.

What type of drive do you need? SCSI? MFM? I have a 40meg MFM I can put
on indefinite loan if it's useful.  Not much, but it might help.

: As I mentioned above, we appreciate your interest, and would welcome your
: support; but right now we need software development a lot more than new
: nodes.  If you are interested in that aspect of the project feel free to
: drop me a note via E-mail!

Er, for general interest, what type of development is going on right
now, and what areas are you looking for help in?

: starting a different train of thought?  Sorry, I haven't had quite as much
: sleep these past few months as I would have liked :-)

None of us have.  Especially after taking the Subject GRE in CompSci.
It was a theoretical nightmare.  I thought I was taking the wrong test
when I got halfway through it.  Language theory isn't my high point :(

"Given the preorder and postorder criteria below, what is the best
language implementation of this operator in EBNF?"  Then a bunch
of hieroglyphics that look like the description for Lisp on acid. Borland
is rolling over in his grave right now: "what damnation have I wrought
eternal on humanity?"

<sigh>

-Louis

"These dots are making me insane hahahahahahah!"
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Newsgroups: chi.mail
From: rrezaian@austral.chi.il.us (Russell Rezaian)
Subject: Re: Interest in Clout.
Organization: D.O.C. Data Processing Systems
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 08:39:10 GMT

In article <9212235030@drktowr.chi.il.us> magus@drktowr.chi.il.us (Louis Giliberto) writes:
>Russell Rezaian (rrezaian@austral.chi.il.us) wrote:
>: If anyone knows where we can find more drive space for one of the current
>: clout nodes, it would be appreciated!  We have been running VERY tight on
>: space for some months now.  Fortunatly we have been quite lucky and have
>: not had our spool space get swamped all that often, but even once was too
>: much, and it has happened more than once.
>
>What type of drive do you need? SCSI? MFM? I have a 40meg MFM I can put
>on indefinite loan if it's useful.  Not much, but it might help.

SCSI.  We might be able to make use of an MFM drive, but that would require
the use of something like an Adaptec ACB-4000 board, and those are
somewhat awkward...

The particular clout machine currently most desperatly in need of space is
a Sun workstation (without a VME bus, just SCSI) running on the ragged
edge of drive space so SCSI is our only real option for space.  We will
also need some more space to get the development project underway, we can't
possibly do it on the current machine, not only is there simply mot enough
space, but we can't afford to risk the disruption that would result.

>Er, for general interest, what type of development is going on right
>now, and what areas are you looking for help in?

Right now we are about to launch into the design of the next generation of
our software.  Mostly we are looking for people with experience in
databases, mail, and distributed systems.  Of course this sounds a LOT
more impressive and complicated than it actually is, but then I have a
slight tendency to hyperbole...  :-)
--
Russell Rezaian			|  rrezaian@austral.chi.il.us
Newsgroups: chi.mail
From: matt@severian.chi.il.us (Matt Crawford)
Subject: Re: Connections to clout
Organization: The Chrome Plated Megaphone of Destiny
Distribution: chi
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 22:00:46 GMT

I don't believe the recent problems have been due to any equipment
other than clout itself (or the ethernet segment clout is connected
to).  I access clout by using SLIP to my workplace, then
UUCP-over-TCP.  I have had UUCP sessions time out and intermittent
ping failures.  I've also telnetted to clout and gotten a connection
but no login prompt.  The problem is not on the modem pool or the
gandalf, I'm sure.

__________________________________________________________
Matt Crawford       matt@severian.chi.il.us       Java Man