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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: Re: Full GP and Superbike Schedule
From: taylor_c@qis.dofasco.ca
Date: 28 Dec 92 12:07:00 GMT
Organization: Dofasco Inc, Hamilton, Ont. Can.
Nntp-Posting-User: taylor_c


World Superbike for 1993 according to Cycle News mailed Dec 15.

	4/11	Donnington Park, England
	5/9	Hockenheim, Germany
	5/30	Albacete, Spain
	6/13	Estoril, Portugal
	6/27	TBA, San Marino
	7/11	Oesterreichring, Austria
	7/18	Brno, Czechoslovakia
	8/8	Anderstorp, Sweden
	8/22	Johor, Malaysia
	8/29	Sugo, Japan
	9/12	Le Mans, France
	9/26	Monza, Italy
	10/24	Phillip Island, Australia
	10/31	Mansfield, New Zealand
	11/14	Mexico City, Mexico
                     
Grand Prix for 1993 according to Cycle News mailed Dec 15.

	3/28	Eastern Creek, Australia
	4/4	Shah Alam, Malaysia
	4/18	Suzuka, Japan
	5/2	Jerez, Spain
	5/16	Salzburgring, Austria
	5/30	Spa-Francorchamps, Belgium
	6/20	Hockenheim, Germany
	6/27	Catalunya, Spain/Europe
	7/18	Paul Ricard, France
	8/1	Donington Park, England
	9/5	Misano, Italy
	9/12	Laguna Seca, United States
	10/3	Kyalami, South Africa

	???? The GP race on 9/12 in Montreal Canada is not listed in the 12/15
	     issue of Cycle News.   I have not yet received the previous issue,
	     can anyone comment on the Montreal, Canada.  

		Cheers

			Chris Taylor
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Tobacco and Racing (was Re: '93 French GP Cancelled)
	<moseley.137.724713687@u.washington.edu>
	<1992Dec20.195248.3115@sequent.com>
	<1992Dec21.141245.22150@eng.umd.edu>
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:26:17

"green" == Michael Green <green@eng.umd.edu> writes:
green> I'm confused as to why the French GP has been cancelled. Isn't

I thought whats-his-name that runs the GP wants a million up front and
all the signage on the track. If that's the case, then what might have
happened is that the track can't get enough sponsors/money together to
come up with the million....

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
              '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWMOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
                                "HotHead Rules!"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
From: green@eng.umd.edu (Michael Green)
Subject: Re: Tobacco and Racing (was Re: '93 French GP Cancelled)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 14:12:45 GMT
Organization: Dept. Anesthesiology, UM at Baltimore
Keywords: n

I'm confused as to why the French GP has been cancelled. Isn't cigarette
advertising already banned in several countries that continue to hold
GP's. Germany for one, maybe the UK also? The teams remove the lettering
from their livery and simply go with the cigarette logo's. A quick
examination of Motocourse will tell you which countries have banned
cigarette advertising simply by looking at the bikes and team uniforms.
There must be more to this.

On the subject of RJR aka Camel. A year or so ago a series of articles
was published in the JAMA (Journal of the American Medical Association)
regarding a study on kids and how they identified various logos. The
popular press published it as "more kids recognise Old Joe Camel than
Mickey Mouse". I took the trouble to read the atricles and of course
they weren't quite as simple as that. The basic conclusion however is
that the only people taking up smoking are kids. Old Joe is aimed at
kids and therefore RJR is persuading kids to take up Camel's. (See
today's Doonesbury). 
The official line of RJR is twofold. 1) Advertising is not aimed at
persuading people to take up smoking. 2) Advertising is meant to keep
current Camel smokers loyal and to persuade smokers of other brands to
switch to Camels.
Camel is also dramatically reducing their support of motorcycle racing
inthe US. The road racing series support went years ago. The support of
Commonwealth is fairly limited. They have now cut back on the dirt track
support and may well pull out of that also. As long as the likes of Sen.
Jessie Helms are in power I can't see cigarette advertising being banned
at sporting events in the US.

Anyway, so what is the full story behind the French GP?


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
From: roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer)
Subject: Full GP and Superbike Schedule
Organization: QUAD Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 00:40:59 GMT

Could someone post a complete schedule for the 1993 GP and World Superbike
season? Or is there a FAQ with that info?

-- 

Roland Besserer
QUAD Systems
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From: jew@venus.sunquest.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: Re: Survey
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:10:59 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Sunquest Information Systems


I started racing last year after riding on the street for about 17 years.

I am now officially the SASBA 50cc Modified Champion.  :-)
--
jew@sunquest.com

The shortage will be divided among the poor. -- Russian proverb
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
From: erika@znext.cts.com (erik astrup)
Subject: Re: Survey
Organization: pnet
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:42:13 GMT

tnhe6@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
: 
: 	Hello everyone,
: 
: 	I was just wondering how long each of you rode motorcycles before
: 	you tried racing. I have recently purchased a motorcycle and was
: 	curious how long it might take before I get the "bug".

	Well...I rode for 6 years before I tried racing. I never had the
bug until I started going to a friends races. I thought, "Hmmmmm, wow! A
closed course where I can go fast with no cops! Cool!" I had a new 90 CBR
600 and didn't want to race it. My buddy fueled the fire by loaning me his
old RZ-350 to take race school and one race. I passed the class, and the
RZ siezed on me going into turn 4 at Sears Pt. An eye opening experience
to say the least. That had me really freaked out and I said "screw
racing", no thanks. Well I changed my mind and put the 600 on the track. A
big difference. I don't race anymore, but had fun the few times I went.
It's intense as hell (IMHO) and really gets the adrenalin pump going. Give
it a try if you can, it's something to experience, at least once. 
My ex girlfriend got into racing just one year after she started riding, just
to give it a try. Had a blast doing it too. 
 
: 	Also, are there any places in the midwest USA I can go to watch
: 	racing, either professional or club racing. I'm currently smack-dab
: 	in the middle of Iowa, which so far seems to be about as far away
: 	from roadracing as you can get and still be breathing oxygen.
: 
	Hmmmm...Iowa huh? "Is this heaven?" "No, it's HELL, there are no
race tracks in Iowa." None that I know of at least. Geeeze...I don't know
man...sorry, can't help ya there.  


  : 	1984 VF500F Interceptor	(under repair)

	Hmmmm...sounds like the perfect entry level race bike! 


 ==============================================================================
  Erik Astrup                   DOD #683                            AFM #422

  1993 CBR 900RR  *  1990 CBR 600  *  1990 Concours *  1980 GL1100 Interstate

      "This one goes to eleven" - Nigel Tufnel, lead guitar, Spinal Tap
 ==============================================================================



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
From: ae219rh@prism.gatech.EDU (Ray Hixon)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: WSB in USA?
Date: 22 Dec 92 19:25:33 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Will there be a round of World Superbike in the
USA?  Are they running SoS as an additional class?
(suddenly my interest in the topic is explained)


------------------------------------------------
Ray Hixon WERA #623 Expert
a Single-minded guy
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Subject: Dutch GP on - Canadian GP off
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 09:11:04 GMT

The local UK rag, Motorcycle News, claims the Canadian GP (probably?) won't go
ahead since it's going to be frozen over for the next 3-4 months, and thus
cannot be scrutinised for safety, etc. Is that right? Tough place to bike,
Canada.

On the other hand the Dutch GP is back on (last week in June, I think,
26th??). Some you win...

Regards,
============================================================================
Richard Taylor                  DoD #981                 (rct@fulcrum.co.uk)
              HELP, I've fallen and I can't reach my beer.
============================================================================
Fulcrum Communications Ltd., Fordrough Lane, Birmingham, B9 5LD, ENGLAND.


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: FZR engine transplant
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 18:53:34 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <BONG-281292082012@kfp-slac-mac.slac.stanford.edu>, BONG@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Eric Bong) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec23.020806.23090@rchland.ibm.com>,
|> essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) wrote:
|> > 
|> > In article <BONG-221292143211@kfp-slac-mac.slac.stanford.edu>, BONG@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Eric Bong) writes:
|> 
|> > |> > |> (Alexander Essbaum) writes:

|> > |>  I question your motivations for modifying a perfectly good motorcycle.
|> > 
|> > only if it's cheaper to get a used 1000 than to rebuild the 750 (it's
|> > currently got (at least) a spun bearing.

|>   A spun bearing may mean damaged crank journals. You may have to replace
|> or recondition the crank. The Yamaha manual says replace the crank if the
|> journals are damaged. Yamaha does not sell oversize bearings. So
|> reconditioning the crank would be dificult. You would have to find a
|> place that would weld up the journals and grind them back down to size.
|> It gives you a good excuse to purchase an after-market billet-crank and
|> after-market rods.

yes.  what bothers me is that supposedly this motor was rebuilt with new
rods, pistons, and crank (all aftermarket performance parts) last summer.
i used it for ~3500 miles and now it's toast.  the purchase price of the
bike reflected a "new" motor that would be up to racing/abuse.  i really
don't want to pay this money again to get the bike right.

the motor is currently being disassembled and inspected by someone with
a good clue.  haven't gotten the diagnosis yet (next week probably).

|> rebuid your 750 motor. You own a rare machine. The collector value is
|> severely diminished if you don't have the origional motor in the frame.

heh.  :)  yeah, i thought about this some when i got it.  i came to the
conclusion that i don't really care too much about collectability.  i
pretty much ride it to have fun now, and if a different motor = more
fun at the expense of resale value, then so be it.  i'm more concerned
about losing the gearbox and not being able to race at brainerd, etc.

|> You could put in a 1000 motor, then re-build the 750 at your leisure.
|> I strongly suggest making up a spreadsheet and pricing out all your
|> options before you start to rebuild your motor. You can then plan a
|> financial strategy to accomplish your performance goals.
|> 
|> Have fun,
|> 
|> Eric Bong   DoD # 0270
|> 1986 FZ 750
|> 1987 FZR 750 RT (not exactly stock)
|> --------------------------------------------------------------
|> Disclaimer:
|> The opinions expressed in this posting are my own, and
|> not necessarily those of the Stanford Linear Accelerator 
|> Center, Stanford University, or the US Department of Energy.

axel
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
From: BONG@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu (Eric Bong)
Subject: Re: Please Update Canadian GP
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles.racing
Organization: SLAC
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:34:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.174053.1841@znext.cts.com>, erika@znext.cts.com (erik
astrup) wrote:
> 
> Dave_Damon@NeXT.COM (Dave Damon) writes:
> : 
> : The Sept 10 - 12 race will be held in California, at Laguna Seca.
> : I will be there as I have been for every GP since I can remember.
> : No need for you to go.  It's no fun.

 Every GP since you can remember? Are you refering to races held prior
to the track update in 1988? All I had been to before that were AMA races.

> 	No shit. I will be there too as I have been for the 88,89,90 and
> 91 races. Again we will attend with a 30' RV, home brewed beer, good tunes
> and food. We'll be there as usual a week before the race in the same spot
> as usual. 

  And this year we have plenty of time to brew.

> : Mr. GP, "The King of Burnout" Dave
> 
> 	"Mr GP"?...hah.....rookie. 

  King of Burnout? You're just spinning your wheels. That was the guy
who blew-up his bike in '90.

Eric Bong   DoD #0270
1986 FZ 750
1987 FZR 750 RT

Raise your can of beer on high                "Golden Age"
and seal your fate forever.                 Blue Oyster Cult
Our best years have past us by
The golden age of leather.

--------------------------------------------------------------
Disclaimer:
The opinions expressed in this posting are my own, and
not necessarily those of the Stanford Linear Accelerator 
Center, Stanford University, or the US Department of Energy.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth)
Subject: Re: Call me Stupid...
Organization: University of Colorado Boulder, Pizza Disposal Group
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:17:40 GMT

In article <22988@drutx.ATT.COM> kpm@druhi.ATT.COM (Kevin Malloy (DoD #106)) writes:
>in article <1992Dec23.194808.17196@colorado.edu>, laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) says:
>> 
>> i went down hard in very hot weather in full leathers without a
>> scratch. of course you can have some comfort now but (possibly)
>> later you will be on hurting puppy
>
>hey laz,
>
>Wuddya mean, with out a scratch!  

yeah without a scratch!

i didn't say without a bruise tho...........

>And get a bike.  You too, Ed.

i have a bike or 2 just not running ones. and don't lump me in
with ed its been over a year for him. i haven't even come up
on 6 months yet (soon tho).

laz
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Strangers on your bike (was: Protection for your bike)
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Date: 30 Dec 1992 08:34 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Dec29.201726.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu>,
mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu wrote:
> I've been riding for 15 years and never once, to the best of my
> knowledge, has a stranger sat on my bike.  Frankly the possibility
> never entered my mind, but from reading some of the "protection for
> your bike" posts such behavior is not unusual in some parts of the
> world.  If I ever came out of restaurant to find someone sitting on
> my bike I'd probably get quite upset and would almost definitely get
> highly verbal with the person (if not physical).  My question is this:
> Are there any people out there who have had this happen to them on
> more than one occasion, and if so what is your reaction?  Polite, "Please
> get of my motorcycle." or an angry, "what the fuck do you think you're
> doing?"

	I don't recall anyone sitting on my bike (a few people have tried to
steal them tho'...  one succeeded).  It almost happened the other night.  I'd
parked next to a large concrete planter outside the local Co-op while I bought
the daily supplies, and came out to find two teenagers on the other side of
the planter, calling out to a few more over the other side of the road.  As
I moved closer, the taller of the two came around to the bike and was obviously
being egged on by the others to get on (I may not know Swiss, but I do know
teenagers :-).  I just walked up, put the helmet on the tank and the whisky on
the ground, never saying a word.  He was quickly on the other side of the road.

	Later, I realised that the DoD keyrings had arrived that day; I should
have pulled one out, called out "Hoi! Froehe Weihnachten!" and chucked it
across to him.  That'd guarantee the local yokels never came near me again :-).

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: welch@nervous.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arun Welch)
Subject: Re: Senseless, Childish Brazier Auction
Originator: welch@nervous.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: OSU-LAIR
	<1992Dec28.224751.19993@colorado.edu>
	<1992Dec30.041528.20856@grebyn.com>
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 14:45:40 GMT

 OK, I'm deeply confused. What the hell is being auctioned here, and
for what cause?  I've been gone for a while and the original message
has expired off my machine.

 ...arun
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Arun Welch
Lisp Systems Programmer, Lab for AI Research, Ohio State University
welch@cis.ohio-state.edu
DoD# 1108
From: arturo@informix.com (Arturo Vega)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Locking the rear wheel. (oh no!)
Keywords: pain, confusion, dismay, koala, dung.
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:10:32 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

FRAHM@UCSU.COLORADO.EDU (Joel A. Frahm) writes:

>	I wonder if it would be possible to do a survey of moto saftey
>comparing the DoD folks to the rest of the world.  I would be interested
>in the DoD safety record.  Seems like enthusiasts might suffer more injuries,
>but less deaths. Comments?

Well, I'm  not a DoD, so I guess I fall under "rest of the world".
For what it's worth, i've suffered many more "injuries" than I have
"deaths".

Anyone else?

>Joel.  87 FZ700;  86 KTM 350 MXC;  83 XR500R;  someday I'll write a .sig file
>(and who knows, maybe it'll be amusing).

Later,

Art "Still kicking (just barely)"
arturo@informix.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: testing... please ignore
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 31 Dec 92 13:21:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> also i'm having a New Years Eve party at 1523 6th St. Boulder
-> Colorado 90210 home of coach Mac and soon to be legalized
-> discrimintation against gays, lesbians, bi-sexuals, women, blacks,
-> hispanics, orientals, and dogs (unless your on a football team).

 Good thing they didn't think to include motorcyclists, eh?
                    
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: BMW Flintstone Model,  Was Re: Dealer won't budge on '91 ST1100
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 15:55:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec31.214106.19978@colorado.edu> laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:
>In article <1992Dec31.143147.29543@elektro.cmhnet.org> charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:
>>
>>
>>Ectually, what you have discovered is the new BMW "Flintstone" model.
>
>actuall, the flintstone model is the R75/5 the first and only bmw
>with more power then brakes. sometimes i wonder about all the jap
>crap*, hog shit*, and spagetti pee* riders that complain about there
>brakes being too weak.....you guys should try stopping a 500 pound
>bike going DoD nominal with drum brakes. 
>
>
>laz
>(* you are excused from the above flame if your bike does not have
>disk brakes)

Heck, that at least had twin leading shoes. Try a 7 or 8" single leading shoe
(older Triumphs and BSAs) or a Norton Commando (even with a front disc) for 
some real excitement.

Jeff Achenbach
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:42683 rec.motorcycles.harley:1730
From: hartzler@cbmvax.commodore.com (Jerry Hartzler - CATS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Cobra Link Chains- Worthwhile?
Date: 28 Dec 92 23:07:27 GMT
Reply-To: hartzler@cbmvax.commodore.com (Jerry Hartzler - CATS)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <1992Dec23.013730.8385@twg.com> oldera@twg.com (Ed Alcoff -  Prod Mtg) writes:
>
>I also have a "locked" cover and a fork lock. Now,

What's a "locked" cover?

>the bike I own is in great demand by the unwashed
>and unscrupulous, so is it secure?  How good are the
>Cobra links?

I'm under the impression that if someone wants your
bike bad enough, he'll find a way to get it!  Having it
"out of sight, out of mind" seems to be the best solution.
A cover helps, but have you checked out any storage sheds?
I live in an Apartment complex and this Spring I plan to
put mine in a rental storage shed.  Better yet find some
trustworthy bikers in your area or work who want to do the
same and split the cost.

I heard of a guy who bought an old panel van to use as
his bike shack.  He removed the distributer cap, taped the
windows and put steel bars across the doors.  He would
just drive the bike in or out of the back via a ramp and
lock it up tight as a drum at night.

- Jerry
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet Laws
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:10:17 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 92Dec21144850@gradient.cis.upenn.edu, farid@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Hany Farid) writes:
>
>>Here's an interesting question (at least I think it is):  Why is the federal
>>goverernment in the U.S. so intent on implementing helmet laws?  The federal
>>government in the US certainly doesn't pay for the health care of most
>>bike riders, so there goes that excuse.  They don't force seatbelt laws down
>>people's throats, as far as I know,  
>.... [stuff delete]
>
>I was under the impression that the federal government currently
>threatens to reduce federal funding for highway repair and such if
>states do not enact a mandatory seat-belt law.

Mandatory seat belts
Mandatory motorcycle helmets
Mandatory minimum 21-year-old drinking age
Mandatory maximum 65 mph speed limit, and only in "rural" areas

ALL of the above are the jurisdiction of the STATE government.  The
feds just yank on purse strings.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...