HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: kbrown@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (J. Keith Brown)
Subject: Longbow Question
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:33:45 GMT



This weekend my wife and her brother and sister were going through the
attic in their childhood home, removing old possessions prior to selling
the house.  As they were going through the accumulated "stuff" my wife
found a longbow that had belonged to her father.  Since the father died
when she and her siblings were very young none of them knew it existed.

Because of my interest in archery, they gave me the longbow.  It has no
markings of any type so I cannot say who made it or what it is made of.
My question is, since this bow has been in storage in an attic for at
least 35 years, should it just go on the wall as decoration, or can
it still be strung and shot?  Would the wood be too old and brittle
for the tension of a bowstring?  Obviously I do not want to risk breaking
the bow since it did belong to my wife's father.

If anyone can help me with this one I would appreciate it.  There are
no archery shops around here that can help me.

Thanks!

Keith

kbrown@uncecs.edu
From: mtopliff@pimacc.pima.edu
Newsgroups: alt.archery
Subject: Texas Bow Camp
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:27:53 GMT

The June 1992 issue of Field & Stream contains an article about the 
"Bow Camp" conducted by Jim Hamm and Ron Hardcastle near Azle, Texas.
It is a week-long camp where the students create a traditional bow
from a piece of osage orange wood.  Has anyone had any experience with
this camp?
Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: msg7038@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michalis  Syrimis)
Subject: Re: "Just Testing DONOT READ"
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 04:51:21 GMT

ins894r@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Aaron Wigley [Wigs]) writes:

>Just a query to the more experienced people out there,
>the local archery club (Monash Archery Club - I'm club secretary)
>has recently had problems with bows putting arrows through the target,
>and breaking chunks of paper backing and straw away. We figure the head
>is pushed through the target, and puts a strain on the paper backing 
>before puncturing it. The strain causes straw to break away. 

>We are currently shooting indoors, with ranges:
>	30 metres, 20 metres and 10 metres (for beginners).

>We are figuring imposing a poundage limit on each range:
>	up to 40 pounds on the 20 metre target,
>	up to 30 pounds on the 10 metre target,
>	and unrestricted poundages on the far target.

>Comments? Opinions? Flames? 

>We will also be using a double thickness target on the far range
>from now on, which brings me to another question:
>	How can two damaged targets be bonded together easily and
>securely ? The targets have cracks up the centre of each, and we
>figured we could get some more use out of them by getting two
>cracked targets, and overlapping the targets like so:

>         ||||    ====
>         |||||||| =======
>         ||||||||| || =======
>         ||||||||| |||||| =======
>         ||||||||| |||||||||| =======
>         ||||||||| |||||||||| =======
>         ||||||||| |||||||||| =======
>         ||||||||| |||||||||| =======
>         ||||||||| ||||||||||            <- crack
>         ||||||||| |||||||||| =======
>             ||||| |||||||||| =======
>                 | |||||||||| =======
>                  ^  |||||||| =======
>           Crack  |      ||||    ====


>Opinions? Suggestions?

>The Wigs of Oz,
>Aaron Wigley		Monash Archery Club

-- 
Michalis Syrimis
University of Illinois
Urbana-Champaign

Newsgroups: alt.archery
From: ins894r@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Aaron Wigley [Wigs])
Subject: Targets, poundages and ranges
Organization: Monash University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:35:33 GMT

Just a query to the more experienced people out there,
the local archery club (Monash Archery Club - I'm club secretary)
has recently had problems with bows putting arrows through the target,
and breaking chunks of paper backing and straw away. We figure the head
is pushed through the target, and puts a strain on the paper backing 
before puncturing it. The strain causes straw to break away. 

We are currently shooting indoors, with ranges:
	30 metres, 20 metres and 10 metres (for beginners).

We are figuring imposing a poundage limit on each range:
	up to 40 pounds on the 20 metre target,
	up to 30 pounds on the 10 metre target,
	and unrestricted poundages on the far target.

Comments? Opinions? Flames? 

We will also be using a double thickness target on the far range
from now on, which brings me to another question:
	How can two damaged targets be bonded together easily and
securely ? The targets have cracks up the centre of each, and we
figured we could get some more use out of them by getting two
cracked targets, and overlapping the targets like so:

         ||||    ====
         |||||||| =======
         ||||||||| || =======
         ||||||||| |||||| =======
         ||||||||| |||||||||| =======
         ||||||||| |||||||||| =======
         ||||||||| |||||||||| =======
         ||||||||| |||||||||| =======
         ||||||||| ||||||||||            <- crack
         ||||||||| |||||||||| =======
             ||||| |||||||||| =======
                 | |||||||||| =======
                  ^  |||||||| =======
           Crack  |      ||||    ====


Opinions? Suggestions?

The Wigs of Oz,
Aaron Wigley		Monash Archery Club
From: dawson@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: 1992 DCI videos are out/review
Date: 10 Oct 92 13:28:44 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall) writes:

> In article <1992Oct9.134106.17528@hubcap.clemson.edu> mlgreer@eng.clemson.edu
> >Keywords: Ok.  I'm new at this news reader thing, but there is something I w
> >  Does anyone know when and where I can try out for the Spirit of Atlanta.  
> >
> >mlgreer@eng.clemson.edu
> 
> Call up their office in downtown Atlanta.  If no one has the phone number off
> hand, look them up under "Youth Organizations" in the Yellow Pages (Atlanta
> obviously).  That's what I did.  They used to have auditions, but I don't
> if they still do, but they'll let you know.  Also take a serious look at
> Southwind in Birmingham, they won Div II last year, and they seem to be 
> giving Spirit a rum for their money in the best crops in the South.  Whatever
> you decide, let us know, or at least me personally.
> --David

I thought Southwind was in Montgomery...  but it is interesting to note that
many of the staff at Southwind this year have been on the staff for Spirit in
years past...

Spirit's phone number is +1 404 344-5616

> 
> -- 
>  Spirit '88      |"So get off your butt and ride."      |     _,-~o     |
>  ?????? '93      |"It's the motor that wins the races." |    _-\_<,     |
>                  |               E-mail ddm@wpi.wpi.edu |   (*)/'(*)    |


-- 
dawson@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
From: KPW104@psuvm.psu.edu (K-JAMZ)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: DRUM CORPS IS STUPID
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:55:36 GMT
 <1992Oct15.122218.28979@ncsu.edu> <1992Oct15.110125.16411@husc3.harvard.edu>
Organization: Penn State University

By the way I don't want a flame war either!  If you want to flame me, or
contribute to what I have said, please write to me via E-mail and don't
defile this great group anymore!

                                                         -K-Jamz
----
"Those who know, know!                                      Ken Wilcox
 Those who don't, will never know!"                       kpw104@psuvm
                                                  kpw104@psuvm.psu.edu
From: C_S01798@APPSTATE.EDU (*Patrick Todd Sloan)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: DRUM CORPS IS STUPID
Date: 15 Oct 92 21:41:08 GMT
Organization: APPALACHIAN STATE UNIVERSITY
NNTP-Posting-Host: alf.appstate.edu
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

In <1992Oct15.012226.7682@iscsvax.uni.edu> young7905@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>      I JUST WANTED TO SAY THAT I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THIS NEWSGROUP EVEN EXISTS.
> DRUM CORPS AND ANY OTHER TYPE OF MARCHING BAND ARE, IN MY OPINION, THE LOWEST
> FORM OF MUSICAL EXPRESSION THERE EVER HAS BEEN. I WOULD SOONER HAVE HANK
> WILLIAMS Jr. SING TO ME FOR HOURS THAN TO HERE ANOTHER DRUM CORPS PLAY A BAD
> TRANSCRIPTION OF NIGHT ON BALD MOUNTAIN EVER AGAIN.


Hey, What's wrong with Hank William's Jr??????

and why would he be singing "Night on Bald Mountain"?

oh yeah... the next time i catch you whistling Pachabel, tell
me again that youre only the SECOND lowest form of musical 
expression!


ptSLOAN 

- dolittle - 

(keeping his fingers "cross"ed even after hearing that there probably wont be
any Mellophone openings in his favorite corps)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: jvbutera@grad04.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re: Prodigy News
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 12:18:56 GMT

In article <a7HNsB4w165w@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us> dawson@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us writes:
*I remember seeing references some short time ago of a soon-to-be 
*implemented Internet gateway to Prodigy.. is this email only?  How would 
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^
YES.  At present, Prodigy is "giving in" to demands to have a link for
EMAIL purposes.  However, with the nature of Prodigy, there will (probably)
be no News linking to their Bulletin Boards.  

*Prodigy conferences by routinely "echoed" on this or other Usenet groups? 
*It might be possible for an Internet host to gate a Prodigy mailing-list 
*into our newsgroup; this would require zero new software, assuming that 
*their conference might be accessible as an Internet mailing list....

Yes, it would be possible to assemble a mailing list and send ALL articles
to people on the list...

*dawson@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson)
*Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814


-- 
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Math Graduate Student
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jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: jie9328@zeus.tamu.edu (JOEL ISAAC EHRLICH)
Subject: Re: UNI's dome
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 17:40:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.113250.7503@iscsvax.uni.edu>, phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu writes...
>> 
>> In article <1992Oct7.101522.7371@iscsvax.uni.edu> phelps1230@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>>I march with the UNI band here and most of the time we battle time problems
>>>from the horrible echo in there. 
>> 
>> Excuse me, but why does the University of Nothern Iowa have a domed
>> stadium?  I mean, I can only think of one school that uses a
>> domed stadium (Minnesota) and that's not even theirs.
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> --
>>               ________   ________         gt1293c@cad.gatech.edu
>>        |   | (___  |__)   | \  /      Box 24860 Georgia Tech Station 
>>        |_|_|_____) |  \___|__\/__         Atlanta, GA 30332-1001
>> -------------------------------------------------------------------> 

The University of Houston plays in the AstroDome, and Syracuse plays in the
CarrierDome (their own stadium).  I think that Tulane may play in the SuperDome
from time to time also.

- Joel
From: bfhalls@vela.acs.oakland.edu (HALLS BRADLEY F)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Guess that lick! (was Re: Percussion notation system)
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:41:16 GMT
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

In article <1992Oct14.150822.3504@hubcap.clemson.edu> rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry) writes:

(Tasty lick deleted)
You've got me on the first one, Bob. 

>and here's another one from that same year ...
>
>|5 >  >   >   >   >>   >>   | >  >   >   >   -3- > |
>|4 .::. ::.: :.:: ..:: ..:: | .::. ::.: :.:: ... ^ |
>   ff                                        RRR L

HMM...definately 27th Lancers. My guess is 1982. Am I close?
 
--Brad.

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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry)
Subject: Re: 27th
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 20:07:37 GMT

pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:

>Two-seven last put out a drum corps in 1985. After being as high as 2nd,
>they drifted down through the pack in the 80s. They wound up in 13th place
>in both 1984 and 1985.

Close, they were 11th in 1984 (they made finals on the strength of an
*exceptional* drum line) and they placed 13th in 1985 and 1986.
(Personally, I think their 1986 placement ranks high on the list of
"the greated screwings in DCI history".)

IMHO, a large part of their decline came upon Zingali's departure to
work with Garfield.

>The Lancers put out a color guard for two or three seasons in the late 80s.
>They were neat guards -- small in number and a lot of body work in a very
>physical show. It was a joy to have them as finalists at WGI. The color
>guards are also no more.

Ah, that would be 1988 and 1989.  I personally liked them better in 1988.
(I had a running joke with my brother that they were getting too big too
fast in 1989 -- they went from 8 members to 9 or 10 if I remember
correctly.)

If you ever get a chance, check out the 1988 rifle feature.  It lasted
about 132 counts and was just incredible.

>You can hear the closer to 27th's 1983 performance during the closing credits
>to this year's multi-camera Championship tapes. I assume it was broadcast
>during the PBS show, too. That was a sweet little show; the last year that
>they made finals.

Nope.  (See above.)  However, I did get chills hearing "Danny Boy" once
again.  I dragged out the old tapes, and watched them in their peak
again.

Later,
Bob

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From: ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Prodigy news
Date: 13 Oct 1992 15:19:21 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <Oct13.050203.7039@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> gordons@CS.ColoState.EDU (vahl scott gordon) writes:
>Two PRODIGY tidbits to report:
>
>1)  Don Pesceone has just acquired an account, and is contributing
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>    frequently to the bulletin board.  He is also fending off pointed
>    questions from other subscribers.  Want to get in your best shot
>    at Don?  Subscribe to Prodigy.  Note that Steve Rondinaro, George
>    Hopkins, and Bill Cook are also frequent contributors.

Who is Don Pesceone?  Maybe I could a good shot in :). 

>                                                    Scott
--David


-- 
 Spirit '88      |"So get off your butt and ride."      |     _,-~o     |
 ?????? '93      |"It's the motor that wins the races." |    _-\_<,     |
                 |               E-mail ddm@wpi.wpi.edu |   (*)/'(*)    |
From: mlgreer@eng.clemson.edu (matthew greer)
Subject: Re: 1992 DCI videos are out/review
Summary: COOL
Reply-To: mlgreer@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:41:06 GMT

Keywords: Ok.  I'm new at this news reader thing, but there is something I want to know
  Does anyone know when and where I can try out for the Spirit of Atlanta.  I play quints specifically and I think I have what it takes to march DCI.

mlgreer@eng.clemson.edu



Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: st923012@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: hi
Reply-To: st923012@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:02:59 GMT

Hi, it is me again, st923012@pip.cc.brandeis.edu, for those that
asked I have a Name.  JENN.   I have figured this system out a little
better.  Does anyone know how much Santa Clara is?  And could you tell
me the price of the cheapest open-class corps? thanks

          JENN
From: jdonsbac@cvbnet.prime.com (Jeff Donsbach x4365 5-2)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: 27th
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:47:04 GMT
Organization: Computervision, Bedford MA

>  I received a newsletter a short while ago explaining that there will be
> a 27 alumni reunion, I think in Nov, somewhere in Cape Cod.

Too late, Rick. You missed it. It was last Saturday, the 12th.

-Jeff

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From: st923012@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: hi
Reply-To: st923012@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:45:37 GMT

Hi, this is me again. I hope this works.  This is my first time on this
system, so sorry if I screw up. I am in the Buccaneers (IN MA). 
I want to 
I want to join a bigger drum corps, so I am considering the Crusaders.
Do you think this is a good idea? Are they any Crusaders 
out there?
Also, if you are in corps how do you afford it?
If you could answer this, I might be able to join the corps of my 
dreams, SANTA CLARA VANGUARD!!!
BYE< please contact me at st923012@pip.cc.brandeis.edu
From: ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: 1992 DCI videos are out/review
Date: 11 Oct 1992 23:44:12 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <LmkFsB5w165w@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us> dawson@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us writes:
>ddm@wpi.WPI.EDU (David D Marshall) writes:
>
>
>I thought Southwind was in Montgomery...  but it is interesting to note that
>many of the staff at Southwind this year have been on the staff for Spirit in
>years past...
>
>Spirit's phone number is +1 404 344-5616
>

I remember that one of Spirit's bass instructors (Red Griffin) was going
over to Southwind or some new corps.  From what I hear, which isn't much :),
Southwind is taking a lot of the talent from Spirit also.  I guess everyone
is sick of Freddy |^] (Martin that is).

>-- 
>dawson@willard.waffle.atl.ga.us (Willard Dawson)
>Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814


-- 
 Spirit '88      |"So get off your butt and ride."      |     _,-~o     |
 ?????? '93      |"It's the motor that wins the races." |    _-\_<,     |
                 |               E-mail ddm@wpi.wpi.edu |   (*)/'(*)    |
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: 27th
From: fath1@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Fath)
Date: 10 Oct 92 14:23:43 EDT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <BvvxJG.B3p@csn.org> pae@teal.csn.org (Phil Earnhardt) writes:
>
>You can hear the closer to 27th's 1983 performance during the closing credits
>to this year's multi-camera Championship tapes. I assume it was broadcast
>during the PBS show, too. That was a sweet little show; the last year that
>they made finals.
>
>--phil
>pae@blackcat.stortek.com

Wait a minute  :-)
I marched against 27th in 1984 and they did make Finals.  From memory it was:

7. Suncoast
8. us (cavaliers)
9. Freelancers
10. Crossmen
11. 27th   <---------
12. Velvet Knights

Can anyone confirm this?  If not, I'll do it later when I have the info in hand.


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Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: dci@cs.washington.edu (Donald Chinn)
Subject: Re: Drum Solo Solutions
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 20:40:27 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.201349.2325@hubcap.clemson.edu> rwberry@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robert W Berry) writes:
>R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes:
>
>>If you have the transcription, please send it to me (R.Vincent.Lamb@
>>um.cc.umich.edu) along with a key to understand the notation (I didn't
>>read the newsgroup for 2 weeks and the relevant posting must have expired
>>before I read it).  I'll copy it off and send it to the North Star Alumni
>>Newsletter to see if the drummers recognize it.
>
>I second this.  Maybe a key for this notation belongs in the FAQ (Donald,
>are you out there?)
>

I think this would a good thing to have in the FAQ.  I haven't been following
the thread too closely, but I figured that the notation was going through a
little evolutionary phase, so I didn't save the original article(s).

If someone could post the percussion notation (or just mail it to
me), I'll save it.

-- Donald
From: jvbutera@grad01.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
Subject: Re: Finals Sites
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:33:09 GMT
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.

In article <1992Oct12.164634.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> streuer_d@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
* 
*So how many did you get to see when you were in Rhode Island?  The
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Perhaps one a year - the Cabelloros (bad spelling here).  They hosted
a show and that was about it.  Other than that, we had local EMASS shows,
but no DCI open class corps at all.  The best we did is Crusader's home
show each year, Blue Devils or Santa Clara always showed, but I never
got to see both together :(

*concentration I speak of takes in DCA and the Division I and II size corps.
*There's just more access.  In western NY state you could go over to Canada
*and see their shows and there was always Pennsylvania shows too.  
*
*I'd say that Preview of Champions they hold in the southern part of the 
*country (Nashville?) has a pretty impressive list of participants, better than
*DATR and you get at least more than ONE show.  I love drum corps but I'm not
*about to drive to California to see other shows!

In the same spirit, I love DCI, but I'm not about to drive 6+ hours to go to 
Nashville (or wherever next year) for the POC.



-- 
Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.
Math Graduate Student
N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls
Newsgroups: alt.drumcorps
From: xklh@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Krista Lyn Haggert)
Subject: Re: Star of Indiana 1993 repetoire
Followup-To: Star's music
Reply-To: xklh@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:18:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.191354.19451@menudo.uh.edu> HMUSAMWS@admin.uh.edu (SUMBERA, MICHEAL W.) writes:
>In <1992Oct5.173946.4329@beaver.cs.washington.edu> dci@cs.washington.edu writes:
>> 
>> Aren't we being a little harsh here?  Or is this an attempt to start
>> another Star flame war?

>
>(My initial comments apply to myself as well as others.)
>
I agree with your initial comments.