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From: gt4601b@prism.gatech.EDU (CARLISLE,ANDREW GUY)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: GD name origin and tape trading
Date: 30 Jul 92 02:19:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Hey Now! 

I have a question about the origin of the Grateful Dead name.  I have heard
two different stories about how the name came about.  The first and most 
common story is that it is a quote from some Egyptian text that goes as
follows:

We now return our souls to the creator, as we stand on the edge of eternal
darkness
Let our chants fill the void in order that others may know.
In the land of the night
the ship of the sun is drawn by the GRATEFUL DEAD


The other story is an old folk tale, and goes like this:

A poor man dies, and there is no money to pay for his burial.  A stranger 
pays for the burial.  Later, when he is walking down a road a man comes
up to him and gives him some gold coins.  It turns out in the story that 
the man was the ghost of the dead man.  i.e. the grateful dead

Does anyone know which story is right, if either of them is right?

By the way, does anyone want to do some trading?  I have about 140 hours
of Grateful Dead.  Leave me e-mail and I'll send you my list.

			Later,

			Andrew Carlisle(gt4601b@prism.gatech.edu)

"I can tell the queen of diamonds by the way she shines."
-- 
CARLISLE,ANDREW GUY
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:     ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!gt4601b
Internet: gt4601b@prism.gatech.edu
From: pc@slipknot.eng.pyramid.com (pc)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: in it for the money
Keywords: Money, Money , Money!
Date: 23 Jul 92 19:43:49 GMT
Organization: Pyramid Technology

In article <3306@unisql.UUCP> wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.202039.7998@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson) writes:
>>Since when are dead tickets cheaper than other rock 'n roll tickets??
>
>	Excuse me, but how many of those shows were in large stadiums
>with an opening act (even it was steve miller) ?  The people I stayed
>with told me that U2 tickets were 35, and the Springsteen tickets were
>higher.

So they are even more overpriced.  I just picked up some tickets yesterday
for the Allman Bros. show at Shoreline tomorrow night.  I got 2 lawn tix
for $25.  When I buy Dead tix for Shoreline this Sunday, two lawn tickets
will run about $45.  Dead shows are not cheap.

pc
-- 
      -m---------    Patrick Connor           Pyramid Technology   
    ---mmm-------    (408) 428-8819           3860 North 1st St.
  -----mmmmm-----    pc@pyramid.com -or-      San Jose, CA           
-------mmmmmmm---    uunet!pyramid!pc         95134              
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Cherie Del Carlo <cherie_del_carlo@irl.com>
Subject: JGB tickets
Reply-To: cherie_del_carlo@irl.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 19:16:13 GMT

                       Subject:                               Time:10:58 AM
  OFFICE MEMO          JGB tickets                            Date:7/27/92
Hey Now,  To whom it may interest (in No. California, most likely):

I have a pair of tickets to JGB at Ventura Cty. Fairgrounds, and at Irvine
Meadows (reserved seats).  I am intersted in either of two things:

1)  Finding a ride/sharing a ride to southern California (from San
Francisco/San Jose area).

-or-

2)  Selling my tickets.  

Now, I'd like to see how number one could work out, meaning I would like to
hold off on number two for as long as possible.  But in any case, please do let
me know if you're interested in buying, riding, or what.  Peace.

You can e-mail at: Cherie_Del_Carlo@irl.com, or phone me at:  (415) 496-7948.


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Mike Metzler <METZ@vtvm2.bitnet>
Subject: Looking for Dan Tepper
Reply-To: METZ@vtvm2.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:48:10 GMT

I am trying to reach Dan Tepper via the net.  If Dan reads this, please
reply.  If anyone knows his e-mail address, please pass it along.
Thanks.
From: davidh@cascade.ens.tek.com (David Hatcher)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Do all dead shows sell out?
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:47:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.


  Since I put out the orginal posting in this thread, and because someone 
has requested that I summarize my replies to the net, and because I am going 
to be away on vacation all of next week, would everyone who responds to this 
thread also send me a copy?

    Thanks

 	David Hatcher
        Network Services
        davidh@cascade.ens.tek.com
        (503) 627-2167

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: SCHUBERT%MIDD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Subject: Re: exactly perfect
Reply-To: SCHUBERT%MIDD.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:02:08 GMT

 >steve writes: [quote from 6/7/77 deleted]
 >IS THIS THE KIND OF DANGEROUS, POWERFUL THINGS THAT GRATEFUL DEAD
 >MIGHT SAY TO THEIR AUDIENCE THAT GARCIA WAS REFERRING TO IN THE
 >TRICYCLE INTERVIEW?

No, steve, I think they meant more like:

 >steve, again:
 >Under your system, I have the right to come into your house with my
 >.44 magnum, take what tapes I want, fuck your ol' lady while you watch
 >and then blow your miniscule brains out. Think about it. Before your
 >rights are revoked.

Sorry, couldn't resist. :-) :-) :-)         Think of Bobby stepping to
the mike and saying that in the 'highly charged atmosphere'. On the
 East Coast of course! :-) Never happen out there, I know. And yeah, the
East Coast really sucks, and cactus doesn't grow out here either,
so whatever you do, stay away from this yuccchy place! (we are sick, tho.)
[It's so easy to slip. It's so easy to fall. Let your memory trip]
[    and do NOTHING at all.  _l.g.?_]
From: stein-c@acsu.buffalo.edu (Craig Steinberger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: First and LAST visit to a Grateful Dead Concert.  Yuk!
Keywords: Dead-Heads, filthy, moronic, drugs, deplorable
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:07:06 GMT
Organization: SUNY at Buffalo CFD Lab

In article <1992Jul21.055744.9160@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack) writes:
>
>FIRST AND LAST EXPERIENCE AT A "DEAD-HEAD" CONCERT
>--------------------------------------------------
>
>A few years ago some friends of mine decided to take me to a dead-head concert.
>I had never been to one and knew little about the Grateful Dead.  They bought
>a ticket for me so how could I refuse?  I asked them what songs the Dead wrote
>that made it to top-40, but the ones they mentioned were unfamiliar to me.  I
>drove my car to Park West, Utah were I met the others.
>

You know, this sounds familiar.

[stuff deleted]

>
>Further along the walk we came across a dilapidated yellow-school bus and
>several oxidized VW-vans with pandemonium painted on the sides.  In front of
>these were people, who can only be described as freaks, selling buttons,
>bumper-stickers, a miscellaneous assortment of dead-head memorabilia which
>primary constituent was junk, and tuna-fish sandwiches that were slowly
                                   ^^^^^^^^^
Naw, it couldn't be.

[more drivel seleted]

>
>Then a very frightening thing happened.  One of the group of us had a cup of
>punch and offered me a drink and I drank some.  Half an hour later I began
>to feel strange and a slight euphoria was present.  I then realized that the
>punch probably contained LSD-25 and I was instantly filled with rage to think
>someone would be so crude as to "dose" someone else without their knowledge.
>A small argument ensued and I was accused of being naive about punch at
>dead-head concerts.  I asked how long I could expect this to last and was told
>12-hours.  I had never taken a hallucinogenic but I knew enough to know that
>a person having a bad time would have A REALLY BAD time if they imbibed it.
>This only compounded this unendurable situation.  I never have and never will
>forgive the person who so irresponsibly gave me the drug.
>

It must be. It HAS to be!

[More deja vu gone]

>
>"What kind of man would bring a Porsche to a dead-head concert?"
>

IT IS! Dale, the Porsche Guy is back!!!!!!!!!! Flame Bait from the past,
returned to entertain us some more! 


Seriously, why are you reposting someone else's flame bait without 
including a header explanation or something. Trying to stir up trouble,
eh? <For those who don't have a clue to what I'm blabbering about, read
the section of Dale the Porsche Guy in the FAQ. >

-Craig

-- 
Craig Steinberger                               stein-c@eng.buffalo.edu
              SUNY at Buffalo, Computational Fluid Dynamics Lab
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: SPINNERS
From: jlovkay@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 24 Jul 92 14:58:45 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <1992Jul24.151308.10348@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>, Larry Price <lprice@ultrix.ramapo.edu> writes:
> Does anybody out there have any information on what the SPINNERS
> are about?
> I've been going to shows for quite a while, and have seen them for a few
> years now. They seem to be growing, and I'm curious as to their deal.
> Thanks.
> LP
-- 

It is a decent head rush to spin and spin, and cheap too :) Ask my 2 year old !

Jim
From: scott@ictv.com (Scott Watters)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Please Help!! Need Oregon Tix
Date: 28 Jul 92 19:16:35 GMT
Organization: ICTV, Santa Clara, CA (408) 562-9200

Hello All!

My good friend got a late start trying to get Oregon Tix. If you have
one extra for either or both nights she would just love to buy them
from you. I'm sure good karma would be rushing your way if you help
her out.

Call Amacker Bullwinkle (aka Rocket J. Squirrel on KFJC)

Pager # is (415)354-6969
Home  # is (415)424-1442


Amacker lives in Palo Alto and works in Santa Clara......


Thanks

Scott



-- 
Scott R. Watters      |  aka  scott@ictv.com  |                 1993 CBR900RR
ICTV  280 Martin Ave. |                       |                        #00132
Santa Clara, CA       |  go big or stay home  |
(408)562-9200         |                       |              Bridgestone MB-1
Organization: Junior, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:57:38 -0400 
From: Jason Ari Goldstein <jg3o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Tipper Update!
	<1992Jul21.061421.17546@ddsw1.mcs.com>


In reading some of the posts on this thread there have been comments
about how she has purchased Dead CD's.  These are not the CD's that I am
worried about.  I like a lot of hard core thrash and punk.  These are
the CD's that I am worried about going away.  I like this music.  I have
never killed anyone, made sacrifices, committed crimes, etc. and neither
have the other people that I hang with.

You see first it sarts, with CD's and next its books and then
newspapers, etc.  This is why we can't have the government interfering
in Free Speech.  If the industry itself wants to regulate their stuff
that is their choice, but as soon as the government get involved we are
in trouble.

To top it off, its bad enough that album cover art has been squashed to
the size of a jewel box but when part of it was covered with label that
was printed on I get a little ticked.  Besides, the warning doesn't even
apply to me because I am not a minor.  If I had the time, I would start
a campaign to get record companies that do use label to place a sticker
on the outside of the shrink rap and not incorporate it into the cover. 
BTW, I just go the last Red Hot Chili Peppers CD and the cover had a
label printed on it.  Just to show you that mainstream albums get hit
too.

Finally, have any of you heard about the studfy that was done that
proved that teenagers pay little to no attention to the lyrics in the
songs they listen to.  Kinda interesting, huh?

Later...

Jason A. Goldstein
___________________________________________
I'm a peripheral visionary...
I can see the future but only off to the sides.

Over, Finished, Gone, Done, Out.  (Finally)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jannette Pazer <ibmsupt!ibmpa!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.uu.net>
Subject: Re: Kids at Dead Shows -- Costs
Reply-To: ibmsupt!ibmpa!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.uu.net
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:07:44 GMT

A friend of mine has been regularly getting in his son, who walks, in for 
free at dead shows.  Just to be safe, he buys a ticket for him ahead of
time, finds someone who needs a ticket to hang out by him in line, and 
if his kid gets in free, he miracles the new friend.  He said there was 
only one venue who wouldn't let his son in, so I guess it depends on 
who's taking the tickets and how picky the venue is.

Jannette

-- 
Jannette Wing Pazer 		* 	IBM Kingston - "tangled up in Blue"
		No direct internet access, only uunet. 
uunet:
   uunet!panews.awdpa.ibm.com!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette
internet:
   panews.awdpa.ibm.com!jannette.aix.kingston.ibm.com!jannette@uunet.UU.NET
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: dsle@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (david.s.lerner)
Subject: Re: Cal Expo JGB wire
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:22:29 GMT
Summary: Fake Trampoline - BT/Phish

In article <8mjm5v=.andyrose@netcom.com>, andyrose@netcom.com (San Francisco Fractal Factory) writes:
> --
> Anyone see Phish concert with Blues Trav where Popper broke one
> of the trampolines?  This was supposed to be v. funny.
> 


A friend was backstage at the GS Arts center this night and he said that this
broken trampline was a fake (made of paper). Popper and Phish set this up
before the show and made it appear that Popper was upset when he broke it.
It was not real. He left the stage sad but smiled backstage.


Dave
From: burnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Gary Burnett)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: First and LAST visit to a Grateful Dead Concert.  Yuk!
Keywords: Dead-Heads, filthy, moronic, drugs, deplorable
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:53:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I propose a new name for Dale.  No longer is he simply "Dale, the
Porsche Guy," but he's "Dale, the only *true* Diamondback"!

--Gary B.
-- 
Gary Burnett                             burnett@gandalf.rutgers.edu 
130 Columbia Street                      gburnett@zodiac.rutgers.edu   
Highland Park, NJ  08904                          jera@well.sf.ca.us

"Things then did not delay in turning curious."  --Thomas Pynchon
From: gpotts@hebb.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: latest Field Trip hotline information
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:21:41 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services

In article <1992Jul24.210752.10509@sequent.com> mjs@sequent.com (Mike Spitzer)
writes:
>Veneta Field Trip hotline information as of 7/24/92:
>
> Tickets are available at G.I. Joes Ticketmaster and Fred Meyer
>  FASTTIX starting tomorrow (in Oregon only?).  Tickets go
>  on sale at 8:00 AM.
> $30 each, limit 6 per person
> 40,000 tickets available each day (including whatever was sold by GDTS)
> GDTS Mail order is officially over for this event
> Camping begins Friday at 5pm.
> Shuttle busses from Eugene leave from Autzen stadium.
>
>:-) :-) :-).
>
>                Mike
>

As of Saturday evening, FASTTIX said the Saturday show was sold out. There
were still Sunday tickets then -- don't know about now.

--geoff
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: libeke@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Erika K. Edgar)
Subject: BRAD SPIERMAN - where are you?
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 11:13:26 GMT

brad,


please email...cant seem to get in touch with you.


marc
libeke@gsusgi2.gsu.edu
From: wwilliam@dvorak.amd.com (Wade Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Very Little Dead content, cops harrass youths.
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:39:26 GMT
Organization: Austin, Texas

In article <1992Jul23.131206.26967@pool.info.sunyit.edu> uajg@pool.sunyit.edu (Andrew Germaine) writes:
>
>comes in with his lights a shinin and calls us over to the car,
>off the bikes, and hands on the hood.. frisk.. attitude... rudeness..
>the usual. then he tells us. "3 guys fitting your description just 
>shot out some car windows with a b.b. gun".. we told him the other

>lots of questions they take the mans statement and arrest my friend cause
>he fit the description. no gun, no other witnesses besides this man,
>no skateboard (which he said my other friend had) and no motive..
>wel hes out now eithe ron bail or with a ticket, i dot know which...
>and it seems, unfairly, that he will simply pay for a broken window
>rather than pay court fees and lawyer fees to prove his innocence..
>

What?  "They can't do that, stand up for your rights!" - Dreamer, nothin
but a dreamer....

>moral of the story?

Welcome to the 90's, welcome to reality.

>So much for the "innocent until proven guilty" theme of our legal system...

That's been gone for years, you, like the rest of our country, just never
took notice till it directly impacted you.  It will be slow but soon everyone
will be in jail and the country will be a much safer place for the police.

>and so much for feeling safe in your own neighborhood...

Wow, when was that possible?
>
>hows that for injustice?

Injustice???  That's what the majority have requested through their 
actions and voting patterns.  This is the justice the people want, you
unfortuantely fall into the "undesireable" category.  Who cares if you
are innocent, I'm sure you've done illegal activities in the past (the
pipe) and your arrest now is justified even if you didn't commit this
particular crime.   That's how a lot of the public views this...ask around
and find our yourself.


Wade
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Bill Sloan <WS3X@cornellc.bitnet>
Subject: Piccaso Moon Lyrics
Reply-To: WS3X@cornellc.bitnet
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:39:40 GMT

I think he's crazy but my keyboard player wants to learn this song so...
Does any one have or know where I can get the lyrics to this song.
Also, how do I access the info in FAQ?

Thanks, Bill Sloan ws3x@cornellC.cit.cornell.edu
From: laurae@cisco.com (Laurae Pearson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Jerry sighting.
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:10:40 GMT
Reply-To: laurae@cisco.com
Organization: The Internet

In the People section of the SF Chronicle today, they had a 
People Personality Profile quiz.  One of the questions on it was..

	Which Jerry speaks to you?

It then had a picture of Jerry Brown and Jerry Garcia.
From: Frederick.A.Ringwald@dartmouth.edu (Frederick A. Ringwald)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Alligator?
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:08:20 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

OK, I'll bite - when was the last time Alligator was played?

Another curious question courtesy of
fred.ringwald@dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: wam@athena.mit.edu (William A Mayer)
Subject: Re: East Coast
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:07:52 GMT

Het, I don't necessarily think the east coast is skittles and cream, but look
around, jack, there are smack fiends all over this country - and there are heads
who rank pretty low in the human category as well.  i lived on both coasts, the
differences are there, but c'mon, you aren't going to change anything living out
an escapist dream - get with it or get out of it, but don't bitch, you might be
paintin' yourself with the same prejudices you espouse to be above.

Bill
From: andyrose@netcom.com (San Francisco Fractal Factory)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: East Coast Motivation- (War Story)
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:30:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

As for cities and cops and stuff, come to San Francisco.
We have it great here.  Lots of water, lots of grass if you
have bux or a job.  The Warfield, sunshine, Haight, 
Golden Gate park.  

Speaking of running in a crowd of unattached babes, we
got that too.

There is also a strident and effective grassroots 
current (flow) here.  We have diversity and good
buses and subways.  Food costs a lot and so does
having a good time, but with TV and the right women
you're spending a lot of time at home anyway right?

Believe me (IKYD), whether you are in the Rockies
or on the Coast, your rights are licensed and you can
be found.

License? Free Speach? How about a fishing license, hunting
license, driving license, building permit, license
to do business, TAX ID #, SSN #, and that good damn tattoo
they put on my grandfather's lip.

You got it, eagle, pray you keep it.

BTW, Wankan Tanka is the same word 6,000 miles away.

And your only right is to spiritual freedom so you
better try and keep it-> American Friends Service Committee,
Friends Committee on National Legislation, religious
society of friends (quakers) -> got spiritual
advisors in Northern CA prisons for native
american prisoners.

Reminds me of hanging out Bear Butte c. Rapid, SC c.
Rosebud with Dave Lakota Chief and some braves talking
about how the Forest ranger wouldn't let us havev
an open pit fire (tough to have a sweat without fire,
hard to burn sage to).  Reminds me of the Art Agnos taking
personal to Food Not Bombs feeding poor folk outside
his office in SF and sending the cops, the health inspectors
, the press, the business interests, and subversives
into and around our organization taking our pots
and pans, dumping soup in the street, beating us up,
arresting a kid for throwing a bagle (assault), for
holding a ladle (intent to distribute), and how Art 
Agnos is out of a job now and an ex-police
chief Frank Jordan hasn't touched us ONCE.  I even
served food in front of the Bank of America 
yesterday and the state police rolled by (no problem).

We will not win, we will not lose, we will consense,
we will cooperate.
We will not fight, we will not die.  We will live.

Best of luck, see you in OR.  Look for three
Outposts (Eureka, Binghamton NY) red/green and
black/grey with about 6 babies running around.

-AnR



-- 

Andrew Rose
andyrose@netcom.com
FAX 4155537756
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: mtaranto@sura.net (Michael Taranto)
Subject: Re: Train Lyrics
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:24:39 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.181014.21937@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> df@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Dave) writes:
>In article <1992Jul24.174339.21041@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> 7039P@navpgs.bitnet writes:
>> First thing I remember knowin' was that lonesome whistle blowin'...
>>                        DRIVE YOUR TRAIN!!!
>>  Blow your whistle freight train, take me far on down the track...
>>          The monkey's got the locomotive under control!
>>         Like a steam locomotive, rollin' down the track...
>>               CAUTION - DO NOT STOP ON THE TRACKS
>>             Thought I heard that K.C. whistle blow
>
>Wish I was a headlight on a northbound train (cover tunes ok?)
>Driving that train, high on cocaine
>Terrapin: At a Siding (if you can use Caution, this counts too ;-))
>Tons of Steel (is this a truck or a train, it's been a long time
>since I've heard it)

They Love Each Other
It's nothing, they explain, it's like a diesel train
you better not be there when it runs over,
and when that train rolls in, you wonder where it's been,
ya gotta try and see a little further.


Michael 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: loose@quake.sylmar.ca.us (loose_connection)
Subject: Need Veneta Tix!!!
Organization: Quake Public Access
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:45:33 GMT

Well I never thought shows with 40,000 tix could possibly sell out.
Any kind soul out there with xtra's for sale, please contact me

home 818 308 3494
work 818 306 6103
msg  818 355 9896

or email

p.s. new sticker enroute:

        My Child Was
    DEADHEAD of the CLASS
        Weir High '92

also

        I'm A Friend of Bob W.


also considering

One Dead Show At A Time

but anyway,
please let me know if you can help out with tickets

muchas garcias

joe
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead