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From: shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin)
Subject: Re: Some Stupid Questions for Japanes.
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:15:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.002149.12660@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>In article <83703@ut-emx.uucp> btlee@emx.cc.utexas.edu (Mr. Byungtae Lee)
>writes:
>>(1)
>>What's the ture reason that Japan failed to convince its former victim 
>>countries? Your national pride bounded by your unique culture? or
>>you did not want to do that because the key role is very costly. 
>
>This too is groundless.
>
>It is S. Korea that has failed to convince Japan of its good intentions.
>S. Korea has banned Japanese language programming (musicals, drama, etc.)
>from radio, TV, the theatres, etc.
>
>Further, S. Korea has yet to convince the world, given its authoritarian-like
>"democracy" and huge barriers to trade, that it deserves to be recognized as
>a team player among the finest nations in the world.  Curtailing
>free speech and jacking the price of the Honda Accord to $48,000 does
>not make for a team player in the same class as either Japan or the USA.

Again, what is correlation between pre-1945 events with Korea's ban on
Japanese language programming according to Dwight Joe, and alleged price
of Honda Accord?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Why is this question even being asked? (Re: What about Korean, Taiwanese in Internment?)
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:19:24 GMT

In article <2108@hsdndev.UUCP> rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275) writes:
>In article <1992Nov12.044917.7268@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>>
>>What is strange is that the microscope under which America is viewed
>>by the Japanese has several times the magnifying power of the microscope
>>under which Japan is viewed by the Japanese.  Whenever I point out, for
>>example, that Japanese textbooks mention little about the atrocities
>>committed by the imperial army in Nanking, the only comment that they
>>seem to have is, "Well... The gov't wants 'it' that way, so shikata ga nai."
>>
>   What? Are you too sensitive? 
>   Why I would like to know about it is just that I don't know it.
>And from the fact that many Korean and Taiwanese were called as Japanese
>soldiers into Japanese Army, but they have not been compensated as retired
>soldiers, I thought some Korean and Taiwanese might be interned. 

NHK has recently reported that a former soldier in the Imperial Army who is
Korean has sued the Japanese government for his pension. It is expected that
several hundred similar lawsuits will be filed. I am unclear on your statement
above, Mr Watanabe. If your question is "Were any Americans of Taiwanese or 
Korean descent interred as enemies in the US during WWII?", the answer is no.
If the question is "Were such people interred in Japan?", the answer is
yes.

In any event, the compensation issue promises to be at least as nasty as the
recent "comfort women" issue. 

Mike
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From: jwb@capek.rdt.monash.edu.au (Jim Breen)
Subject: Re: HOKKAIDO'S ONLY AIRLINE IS USUALLY JUST WINGING IT
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:43:15 GMT

coganman@soda.berkeley.edu (Andrei Cogan) writes:
>In article <1e6s8pINN2rm@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>>Shiku officials told him his expensive mining equipment was unsuitable for
>>the regular Sapporo-Tokyo service and he would have to charter a whole
>>plane.
>>The businessman duly shelled out the $6,500 requested for a 20-year-old
>>Soviet-built tiwn-prop Antonov-26, and gathered his goods at the airport.
>> [blah blah blah]

>From the San Francisco Chronicle, 15 November 1992, pg. B9
>	MIAT officials told him his expensive mining equipment was
>unsuitable for the regular Ulan Bator-Beijing service and he would have to
>charter a whole plane.
>	The businessman duly shelled out the $6,5000 requested for a
>20-year-old Soviet-built twin-prop ANtonov-26, and gathered his goods at the
>airport.
>[rest of article deleted]

>Notice any similarities, people?

Gosh! Gee! Do you mean ......?

I am reminded of some similar episodes with library photographs
in newspapers. One photograph of an asiatic-looking person was 
captioned "Starving Chinese peasant crossing the border into Hong Kong"
and [in another paper] "Viet Cong guerilla moving to attack US forces."

I also remember a photo which appeared after the 1962 "Bay of Pigs"
debacle captioned "Anxious Cubans survey casualty lists" returning
about three years later with the caption "Miami residents examine
hurricane damage"

As good old Tom Lehrer used to sing: " ..... damn-your-eyes, plagiarize."

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From: ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura)
Subject: Re: Fingerprinting Gaijin
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 18:51:57 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Nov20.200619.5575@src.dec.com> jerian@src.dec.com (Chuck Jerian) writes:
>California takes a thumbprint for a California drivers license or identity card.
>Everyone is fingerprinted.

	So does Colorado.

					Tetsuya Nishimura
From: djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Let's take a poll (increasing S/N ratio)
Date: 15 Nov 92 21:28:34 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego

>This individual is exhibiting at this point the same attitude that took
>the life of Yoshihiro.

Hmm, do you even know what a "global kill button" or a "kill file" is?
It has *nothing* to do with violence.  Or hate.  Or repression.
It is just a way to avoid having to read through all the articles
in a newsgroup.  This is very useful if you can't spend all day
reading news.

This extremist reaction of yours to what is probably a misunderstanding
is a perfect example of why people are annoyed by you.  
-- 
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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Train from Osaka to Tokyo
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:02:01 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia

Next year, on my back from the US (to Australia) I plan on making a two
day stop in Tokyo. However, the only reasonable airfare I can get goes
via Osaka, not Tokyo (I'd like to fly JAL, but they're $500 more
expensive)...

So, what I'm wondering is, how easy is it for a minorly fluent (oh
heck, I guess I'm smart enough NOT to get myself lost completely)
student of the japanese language to get from Osaka airport to Tokyo
(via Shinkanzen would be easiest/fastest, I assume).

How much money would be involved in return train tickets to Tokyo?

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From: rick@rahul.net (John D'Elia)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Survey on Jodo Shinshu
Keywords: Jodo Shinshu Buddhism Amida
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:15:52 GMT
Organization: a2i network

Sorry to waste the bandwidth on this group, but its the only semi-relevant
place I know of to post this message.  I am doing a paper on Jodo Shinshu
(Japanese Pure Land Buddhism) and I'd like to conduct a simple survey of
members of this school.  Any participation in my short survey would be
appreciated.

Questions:

1.  How long have you been practicing Jodo Shinshu?
2.  Why did you join?
3.  Are any other family members a part of your congregation?  Best friends?

4.  What do you like best about your congregation?
5.  What do you like least?
6.  What has been your most positive experience with your group?  Negative?

Please email your replies to me..  Once again, I appreciate your participation.

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From: twt@mindlink.bc.ca (Tom W. Tomlinson)
Subject: Sample Shift-JIS text?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:16:29 GMT

Hi.  I have just downloaded the programme KV2 (KanjiView 2) which
allows me to read mixed ASCII and Shift-JIS text.  Could anyone
E-mail samples of such text, ideally mixing English, Kana, and
Kanji?

Thanks,
Tom
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From: harkcom@spinach.pa.yokogawa.co.jp (Alton Harkcom)
Subject: Re: please no holy romanization wars
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:12:25 GMT
	<1eeffgINN9vg@agate.berkeley.edu>
Organization: Yokogawa Electric Corporation, Tokyo, Japan

In article <1eeffgINN9vg@agate.berkeley.edu> lindaa@sooth.Berkeley.EDU
   (Linda Absher) writes:

 =}I wonder if other "gaijin" (no flame intended) have reached a point where 
 =}reading/writing in hiragana and katakana is a whole lot easier than trying
 =}to read in romaji.  Any comments?

   For some of us, the kana were easier to read from the beginning...
(skipped romanization...)
Organization: Junior, Design, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:30:21 -0500 
From: Kenichiro Tanaka <kt12+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: How bad are Japanese drivers?

On 20-Nov-92 in How bad are Japanese drivers?
user Charles M Richmond@world writes:
>I guess that I'm not the only one to feel this way...
> 
> 
> 
>	TOKYO (UPI) -- Japanese driving instructors are ten times more likely
>to suffer from mental illness than security guards, according to a
>survey on stress in the workplace published Friday.

>[stuff deleted]

I don't think this is due to the drivers being bad but from the fact
that licenses are sooooo much harder to get in Japan than in the US. 
The stress comes from having to put up with people who cannot pass the
tests (because the tests are so hard).  You really _have_ to be a good
driver to drive in Japan because the streets are so crowded and small. 
And many times, just getting your car into the garage is an acrobatic
feat--some cars have folding side mirrors to allow room when parking. 
That's how tight the garages are.


Ken
From: tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Sumo -- Day 8 Highlights
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:28:12 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: UBS Phillips & Drew Int'l Ltd., Tokyo

In article <MAGNUS.92Nov16002054@is19e0s00.jaist-east.ac.jp> magnus@jaist-east.ac.jp (Magnus Halldorsson) writes:

[]Kotonishiki beat Kushimaumi with a neat foot sweep after some pulling.
[]Koto gets my vote as the best technician of the crowd.

Magnus, I appreciate your comments that fill the void when I cannot post.
However, I disagree on the above point. On Sumo Digest (every night at
11:15 pm on Telebi Asahi (Ch.10 in Tokyo), 11:00 on week-ends) on Sunday,
there was an interesting section on techniques. They tried, among others, to
point out which rikishi used most or least techniques. The winner was
I thing Kyokudozan, with something like 23 techniques over 6 basho. Kotonishiki
was among the bottom three with 9! I agree that his leg sweep was
remarkable (subari?), and he admitted often using it during keiko (practice),
and at that point, it just happened (tsui ni kimashita... in his words).
Note that Koto used to do judo, and he has learned a lot there. I remember
a fantastic nichonage (double leg throw, equivalent to a judo's ogoshi)
on Daishoyama a few months ago. Terao, Kyoku and Mainoumi are better
technicians. The Wolf and Asahifuji, as well as Kirishima were great in
their time.
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From: kenji@rcac.astem.or.jp (Kenji Rikitake)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Train from Osaka to Tokyo
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:38:58 GMT
	<1992Nov19.123922.28327@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> <3242@aegis.or.jp>
	<1992Nov22.145432.21769@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>
Organization: RCAC Project, ASTEM RI, Kyoto, Japan
In-reply-to: gior@eecg.toronto.edu's message of 22 Nov 92 19:54:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.145432.21769@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> gior@eecg.toronto.edu (GIOR Kevin Kyu-Sik) writes:
>   davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane) writes:

>   >I didn't know the JR had a station at Osaka International. What's
>   >it's name? 

>   I'm not so sure, but I think there was one, (correct me if I'm wrong :) )

The closest train station to Osaka International Airport is
Hotaruga-ike station of Hankyu Takarazuka line. I dunno ANY JR
stations closer - I would rather recommend to take a taxi from
Senri-Chuo station on Kita-Osaka Express, or to go to JR Osaka station
from JR Shin-Osaka station, walk to Hankyu Umeda station, and get
Takarazuka line to Hotaruga-ike.

// Kenji, getting across Hotaruga-ike every working days
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: guohsu@mercury.cs.uregina.ca (Allen Guo-Ching Hsu)
Subject: Re: Lawyer wanted! Immediately! 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:40:28 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, SK, Canada

In article <SMITTIE.92Nov13104437@tui.csulb.edu> smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie) writes:
>
>You gotta give this jerk credit, he's quite a showman.
>
>[where the hell did I leave that .kill file article?]
>
>smittie
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: ikeda@vxcrna.cern.ch (IKEDA,M./EP)
Subject: Re: Fingerprinting Gaijin
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: European Organization for Nuclear Research, CERN
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 08:37:00 GMT

In article <ricko.722237555@ee.uts.EDU.AU>, ricko@ee.uts.edu.au (Rick Jelliffe) writes...
>ikeda@vxcrna.cern.ch (IKEDA,M./EP) writes:
> 
>>Discussions on fingerprinting has gone through scj before, but I am still
>>a bit mystified by Ms. Morikawa (and other Americans) who think that
>>fingerprinting is so horrible.  In fact it seems incredibly hypocritical.
> 
>I don't think my country requires fingerprinting of working holiday visa
>people. So I can complain without any hypocrisy. It is stupid and 
>insulting. The print is so bad it often could be an elbow-print.

Complain all you want dude.  I have yet to go through any immigration
procedure that is decent (US, Switzerland, France, Germany, included).
I figure if the paperwork and the queues are minimised, then that country
can have as many of my fingerprints as they want.

>And also insulting is the way that you have had to give your fingerprint 
>if you sell anything second hand (if you don't have a stamp). What's wrong
>with a signature? It serves  little purpose, and is just makes Japan look
>like a police state.

I think you can easily get a hanko if you want one.  And considering how
smudged the fingerprints are (those orange pads were not meant for finger-
printing), do you really think it matters?  Call it one of those weird
traditions that exists in every country.

-- Makoto
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: davidg@aegis.or.jp (Dave McLane)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Train from Osaka to Tokyo
Date: 19 Nov 92 11:45:05 GMT

michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte) writes:

>Next year, on my back from the US (to Australia) I plan on making a two
>day stop in Tokyo. However, the only reasonable airfare I can get goes
>via Osaka, not Tokyo (I'd like to fly JAL, but they're $500 more
>expensive)...

>So, what I'm wondering is, how easy is it for a minorly fluent (oh
>heck, I guess I'm smart enough NOT to get myself lost completely)
>student of the japanese language to get from Osaka airport to Tokyo
>(via Shinkanzen would be easiest/fastest, I assume). 

I would say it wouldn't be difficult without any knowledge of
Japanese as all the signs are in English and Japanese. I'm not sure
what's the easiest way to get to Shin Osaka (the Shinkansen station)
but you could ride the airport bus to Kyoto and it will let off
right in front of Kyoto station. 

>How much money would be involved in return train tickets to Tokyo?

Something on the order of 25,000 yen, I would say. I myself would go
to one of the small shops selling discount tickets and the price
would be a bit lower but they're not so easy to find unless you know
where to look.... 

Hope that helps a bit,

Dave

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 11:33:04 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Germany vs. the poor Vietmanese

Friends,

                I think that I could be shock after seeing a young child
be accidentality shot in the face with a sawed-off shotgun but I was.
Shocked is an understatement, pissed-off is more like it. Of all the
thing that you don't know about me, you do know this: I have a fond,
unparalleled, attraction for the Vietnamese and their land and their
culture. We and in a Loving Relationship, they and I. Infatuation,
definately. The Germans have nearly declined to the worthless scum that
they were when they were at the height of their ethnic cleanzing tour,
oh sorry, right race wrong culture; Ethnic Purification. You should have
seen it freinds. It was horrible! A group of adult German men braoded up
this apartment building that the my people, the Vietnamese, were living
and they began to fire bomb the building while they were inside. They
wanted these people to burn alive. Luckly, a camera crew were in the
apartment
and the sight of the children screaming and the adults trying to pry the
broads off of the windows brought tears to my eyes. It was truely
horrible. I felt deep anger as the scene changed to the outside where
there were mods of little stupid
wanted-to-be nazis. And, in fact they were extremely stupid because no
one died.

                        A more distrubing fact is was that the Police
came and left. Would you believe that the protectors of the society let
these nuckleheads
beat them. I don't either. They left because they felt the same way;
against the
Vietnamese. Now, I know that there are some *ssholes that will say,
"What does this have to do with social culture Nippon?" The organizor of
this public crematorium stated when asked why were they doing this, "We
don't need Asians
or Africans" and, "They are not less than us but they should not be before us".
I would never take an opportunity from a D*ckhead to hate the lot of
them. And, since Our, Great and Almight God, the Lord Jesus Christ, was
Merciful in that  no one died ; I also will be merciful and suggest that
Japanese should not buy any Germany product until they can control their
frustrations. Those little young want-to-be nazi basters even hit their
own president with eggs and bottles. Are their young that in control. If
so, Mr. khol should declare a state of emergency. Now, to the little
nazi freshman in CIT here at CMU. I saw your post a couple of months
ago. You know the "Race Traitor" post(on soc.cul.U.S.A.). I know that
your  friends will tell you about this. I was looking for you! You scum!
I couldn't find your stupid young *ss. But I told a few of the Brothers
and the Jewish students about you and what you wrote: "The Negroiods
should be shot" and "There were no cremtoriums" I forgot your name
 but Mike fingered you. And, I ma get it off of him. I hope that I find
you soon. Sorry for the tangent, folks but I thought that this was a
good opportunity to get this off my chest. Excuse me for the
inconvience. Let's BOYCOTT Germany!  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: The military is slowly getting in deeper!
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:20:31 GMT



	TOKYO (UPI) -- United Nations officials have asked Japan to help
transport U.N. peacekeeping troops in Cambodia with Japanese military
aircraft, the Kyodo News Service reported Wednesday.
	Foreign Ministry sources told Kyodo that officials of the U.N.
Transitional Authority in Cambodia -- the body overseeing the shaky peace
in the war-torn country -- spoke with Japanese officials in Phnom Penh a
month ago on the possibility of using Japan's C-130 Hercules transport
aircraft to move U.N. troops and supplies between Thailand and Cambodia.
	Japan flies supplies once a week from Bangkok to Phnom Penh, but it
has never transported non-Japanese U.N. peacekeepers. The move would
require the approval of Japan's Cabinet.
	In June, Parliament passed a controversial law sanctioning the
dispatch of Japanese soldiers overseas for the first time since World
War II. Japan can send its own troops to participate in U.N.
peacekeeping missions, but the law has no provision for the transport of
other countries' peacekeepers. Any change in the law requires Cabinet
approval and an announcement to Parliament.
	U.N. officials hope to use empty space on the plane's return trip to
Bangkok, a government official said, but a request from the organization
has not yet been officially made.
	``We haven't received an official request from the U.N. yet,'' the
official said. ``We first need to confirm what exactly their request is.
''
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