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From: john@newave.mn.org (John A. Weeks III)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: St. Louis Arch Request
Date: 23 Jul 92 04:10:49 GMT
Organization: Newave Communications, Ltd, Lake Wobegon, MN

In article <1992Jul20.150017.6567@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> markn@ssd.comm.mot.com (Mark Nowak) writes:
> I'm planning on spending a day in St. Louis, and I'd really like
> to go up the famous Arch.  Can anyone tell me about how easy that
> is to do, how much it costs, how late in the day I can arrive and
> still make it to the top, how bad the lines are, how late it's open
> on a Saturday, etc.?  Any help would be very much appreciated.

The Arch is part of the waterfront area, which includes a bunch of
riverboats converted into eating places, a very large park, the Lewis &
Clark Museum, and the Arch.  The Arch entrance and Lewis & Clark museum
are under the arch, and are part of the National Park System.  You need
to pay for park admission, then pay extra for the trip up the arch, and
for the movie.  Do not pass up the movie--it is really good.  The arch
trip takes only a few minutes to go up, and you can stay up as long as
you wish.  I wasn't much interested in the artifacts in the museum, but
the photographs were spectacular.  They also have numerous quotes from
all sorts of western people--it took a long time to read everything, but
I found it rather interesting.  I visited the arch during the VP Air Fair.
Despite there being 75,000 people on the grounds, the wait to go up the
arch was less than 20 minutes.  The tickets give you a specific time, so
you can purchase them in advance.  I am real foggy on the prices, but I
think it was $3.50 for the arch, $1 for the museum, and $2.50 for the
movie.  Less than $10 per person all togather--and well worth it.  As I
recall, the arch closes fairly early.

BTW, there are a bunch of other things to see in St Louis.  There is a
great zoo--and its free to boot.  They also have a newly remodeled
science museum, an imax, the National Transportation museum, Cahokia
World Historical Site (on the Illinois side), McDonnel Douglas gift
shop, and the airport is even fun to visit (a nice mural that depicts
the history of flight and St Louis place in aviation history).

-john-

-- 
==============================================================================
John A. Weeks III		(612) 942-6969		    john@newave.mn.org
Newave Communications, Ltd.			    ..!uunet!tcnet!newave!john
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: hulet@ruf.rice.edu (Randall G. Hulet)
Subject: Northern Idaho
Keywords: Idaho
Organization: Rice University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:06:02 GMT


    My family and I will be vacationing in Northern Idaho 
in a couple of weeks.  We will be staying at a resort called
Elkins, on Priest Lake.  Can anybody recommend restaurants
and things to do and see in the area?  Also, we would be
interested in short hikes (<5 mi) in the area, and places
to mountain bike.

    Thanks for the help!

Randy Hulet
Physics Dept. 
Rice University
From: patrick@lisboa.ks.uiuc.edu (Patrick van der Smagt)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Westward Route: interesting way from IL to CO?
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:57:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bs3z3E.n3t
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In a few days a friend and I are driving west from Urbana/Champaign (130 mi south
of Chicago), in the direction of California.  Now, from Colorado to CA there's
lots to see, but we are still in disagreement where to go from Interesting Illinois.
Should we go Kentucky--Missouri--Arkansas--Oklahoma--Colorado/New Mexico, or
take a sort of northern route?

Suggestions for the rest of the west are very, very welcome, too.

							Patrick van der Smagt
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: cbraun@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Corinne Braun)
Subject: Traveling Companion wanted to Europe
Keywords: Europe, Travel, Companion
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:57:43 GMT

An aquaintance of mine is looking for a travel companion for a         
tour of Europe this Summer or Fall.  She is a personable 21
year old International Relations student who is fluent in German,
speaks some French and Spanish.  She is interested in traveling
to France, Germany, Austria, Switzerland and Spain with a rail
pass, and is most interested in finding someone from the Twin
Cities area (Mpls., St. Paul) to travel with.
      
Please respond to me with a phone number and I will forward them
to her.
Thanks,
Corinne
cbraun@gnu.ai.mit.edu
From: nev@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (nancy.e.ellard-vass)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Illinois
Keywords: house prices, areas
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:13:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

My may be transfering to a job in Evanston Illinois.

I have been to Illinois when I was about 10. To me it seemed like
New Jersey of the Mid-West (no flames please...) I have several 
questions regarding the areas of Evanston and Naperville.

What can I expect to pay for a 3/4 bedroom colonial, split level, etc...
in a good area.

What are some towns/areas I should stay away from.

Any other info would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Nancy
att!hoqax!nev
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: gwf@sapphire.bellcore.com (George W. Fleming)
Subject: New Zealand and Australia
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:28:24 GMT
Summary: I am thinking of going there...
Keywords: when, where, how much...

My wife and I are talking about going to New Zealand and Australia one of
these days...and we are trying to figure out just when we might go...

Naturally, some of our questions are...

	When is the best time to go?  
	How much time should be spend there?  (is 3 weeks reasonable?)
	How much driving/flying is needed?
	How much would it cost per day?  roughly...
        And of course, what are the sights to see...

I would appreciate very much for any info.

-- 
-------------------------
George W. Fleming
gwf@sapphire.bellcore.com
-------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: aaronson@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (David Aaronson)
Subject: St.Louis
Keywords: st.louis
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:46:39 GMT


I will be travelling to St. Louis on August 22 and 23 I would
appreciate any information on what to do/ where to go while I'm
there.   Also how late is union station open there?

				Thanks
				David Aaronson

-- 
| David Aaronson                    |   Faith is believing what you   |
| aaronson@casbah.acns.nwu.edu      |    know ain't so.               |
| aaronson@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu    |                                 |
| 72460.747@compuserve.com          |         ----  Mark Twain        |
From: rkmossm@pbhyb.PacBell.COM (Richard Mossman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Price of train from Gatwick to London?
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:34:12 GMT
Reply-To: rkmossm@PacBell.COM (Richard Mossman)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA

The BritRail pass does cover the trip from Gatwick to Victoria Station, but 
does not cover the underground while in London. I think it cost 80p to go
from Victoria to (argh! brain fade) the station where we caught our train 
North to York.

-- 
Richard K. Mossman  {att,bellcore,sun,ames,decwrl}!pacbell!rkmossm
510/823-0974
=========================================================================
"I need to put some distance between overkill and me!" -- E. John (1988)
From: ercolessi@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (furio ercolessi)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: photoshops in Singapore
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:31:29 GMT
Reply-To: ercolessi@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (furio ercolessi)
Distribution: rec.travel
Organization: MRL - UIUC

In article <AFORSTEN.92Jul28180238@aton.abo.fi>, aforsten@aton.abo.fi (Annika Forsten INF) writes:
|>My parents will stay one day in Singapore on their way to Australia. 
|>They would like to buy
|>a Canon camera. Any advice on which reliable shop(s) to try? How much
|>should they try to get the price down? Ie. what is the usual percentage
|>in Singapore?

There are kazillions of photo shops. There are no prices on the displays.
You ask for a quote, and the quote definitely depends on how you look like. 
My suggestion is: decide for a specific model BEFORE, including accessories 
and everything.  When you know exactly what you want, take a pen and a 
piece of paper and go around asking for prices.  Make sure that the guys 
of the shop see that you are writing down the price (and the shop location, 
otherwise you would never be able to find it again :-).
Show them that you are not in a hurry and tell them you are staying
there for a week ...

When you have decided for a shop, check accurately that they give you
an international warranty, and beware because they will attempt to 
sell you poor-quality filters, bags, non-original lenses and whatnot.

If you are in doubt about a shop ask about it to the local Canon office.

I bought a Nikon 801S there, paid with a Visa, and everything went fine.
I had a Singaporian accompanying me, though.
The price was _much_ lower than in Europe, but rather comparable
(perhaps just a bit lower) with mail order businesses in the US.
furio
--
Furio Ercolessi
Materials Research Laboratory           |   Intl School for Advanced Studies
Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign   |   Trieste, Italy
ercolessi@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu           |   furio@sissa.it
From: ost@barney.cs.utk.edu (George Ostrouchov)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Train travel prices Neuchatel,CH  to  Bielefeld, D
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:16:16 GMT
Reply-To: ost@barney.cs.utk.edu (George Ostrouchov)
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: barney.cs.utk.edu

Are there any readers of this newsgroup in Switzerland or Germany that
could easily find out the cost of a round trip train ticket between Neuchatel
and Bielefeld?  This is by far the longest trip I'll be taking over
a two week period this August and September and I am trying to decide
if I should get a Eurail pass.

Please e-mail directly to me.  Thanks.

George
ost@barney.cs.utk.edu
From: batten@kodak.kodak.com (James Batten)
Subject: thank you for cedar point info
Organization: Eastman Kodak Company
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 18:29:43 GMT

The subject line says it all. My thanks to all who replied both on the net and
by direct mail to my request for info on the Sandusky Ohio area. Unfortunately
we got completely rained out on our last day there (when of course we had  
planned to go out to the islands), but still had a great time.

Again, thanks to all who replied.

ciao -jim batten
.

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: zeke@meadow.uucp (Samuel Lee)
Subject: Re: Chicago,Boston,etc.,subways 
Summary: Toronto is still the good. 
Reply-To: zeke@meadow.UUCP (Samuel Lee)
Organization: Amdahl Canada Ltd., Software Development Center
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 19:34:30 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.133108.12009@linus.mitre.org> woodside@maestro.mitre.org (Jim Woodside) writes:
>	One always hears about the dangers and horrors of riding the NYC
>subway, I was wondering how other large cities' subways compare?


Toronto s subway system is still probably one of the best ones in
North America.  Even though it hasnt expanded in ten years, and
prices go up every year (this year single fares jumped from $1.30 to
$2.) it is still very clean and very safe, and is probably the best way 
to get downtown, with shopping malls at every major stop.  You dont
have to worry much about riding it alone at nights cuz now thez
have designated waiting areas at most stations which are monitored 
while you wait for the train.  I grew up riding it, and its still one
of the best systems around.        
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: EAGUADO@sdsu.edu (Ed Aguado)
Subject: Prince Edward Island
Organization: San Diego State University
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:40:12 GMT

The other day someone asked about good lodgings in PEI.  I can't find the 
original request, but here is my reply.

Three years ago my family was driving driving east of Charlottetown and saw 
a roadsign advertising Esther's Farm and Motel (a B&B).  It was off the 
Trans Canada Hwy, 24 km east of Charlottetown.  We followed the signs and 
ended up at one of the nicest B&Bs ever.  It is a beautiful old farmhouse 
with extremely gracious people (not that people in the Maritimes were cold 
or unfriendly, but they were not typically outgoing on the average either).  
IF you have kids this is a must stop.  In the morning Esther will take the 
kids to see the animals, let them take fresh eggs from the chicken coop, etc.

It is on Vernon RR3, Earnscliffe PEI C0A 2E0.  I have the phone number, but 
not with me at the moment.  I will provide it on request.

Reply to EAGUADO@SCIENCES.SDSU.EDU
From: woodruff@s34.es.llnl.gov (John Woodruff 422-4661)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: French culture for the linguistically challenged
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:15:38 GMT
Distribution: rec.travel
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Lab

We two will spend a week in Paris in September -- our first visit -- and
want to learn as much as we can about French culture and history while
enjoying The Whole Tourist Experience.  Particular interests are Roman
times; hundred-years-war; Revolution; fin-de-siecle.

Our problem is that we are barely able to mouth the polite "please"
"thank you" "good day" and "another glass of wine, please" so we
anticipate some difficulty  with museum placards and such.

Can someone advise us how to find English language enhancements to our
investigation: perhaps English cassette tapes keyed to displays, or Eng.
guidebooks for museum collections, or a special museum show with
bi-lingual captions, or whatever?
--
John Woodruff   (woodruff1@llnl.gov)   510-422-4661
Employed by, but not representing the policys of
Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Black Death?? Lake Tahoe??
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 21:29:42 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1992Jul28.232024.3906@ichips.intel.com> jreece@sousa.intel.com writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.214052.125541@cs.cmu.edu>, jennie+@cs.cmu.edu (Jennifer Kay) writes:
>> OK, I know this is a bit strange, but anyway. Some friends of mine
>> from abroad are coming to visit the US soon. One of them has heard
>> that there has been an outbreak of the "Black Death" at Lake Tahoe.
>
>Some ground squirrels and other rodents throughout California are
>reputed to carry fleas carrying the plague.  I've been hearing this
>for a decade or two.  
> [some deleted] 

>To put this in perspective, up to 6 tourists a year in Yosemite get swept over 
>waterfalls while wading, fall off the cliffs, or get struck by lightning.

To put it even more into perspective,  bubonic plague never actually went
away.  The first two times it hit Europe (17th century) many people died,  
since then the descendants of the survivors have a certain amount of 
immunity and it is no longer the mass killer of the past.  These days 
someone actually dying of the plague is the exception rather than the rule.  

There are antibiotics etc. around now so I wouldn't worry to much.

Derek Tearne


-- 
Derek Tearne  derek@icl.co.nz or derek@fivegl.co.nz --Fujitsu SDC,Auckland,NZ

My 'self aware' .signature file failed his Turing test.  
It turns out he was just a chess playing midget in a decorative box.
Xref: sparky rec.travel:10723 rec.travel.air:3526
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air
Subject: Need info for Amtrak travel
From: <LANDERSO@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
Date: Monday, 27 Jul 1992 13:31:23 CDT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computer Network

Howdy folks.  I would appeciate any info, stories (good or bad), and ideas of
what to expect on my upcoming vacation.  I will be traveling on Amtrak to
Little Rock, Omaha, and Indianapolis.  A few questions in paticular:

1. How easy is it to sleep with the rail noise and frequent stops without being
   in a sleeper car?

2. What are meal prices like?  How good is the food?

3. On each leg of the trip, I switch trains in Chicago, and have layovers of
   varying lengths.  For the longer than 2 hr layovers, is the station close to
   someplace that I shouldn't miss seeing while I have the opportunity?

And for all the flames that may fly my direction from the rec.travel.air sub, I
will gladly accept info in E-mail to not clutter the sub.  I just figured that
some of the folks there might have ridden the friendly rails.

BTW--- I will be departing Grand Forks, ND on August 3rd.  Any info prior to
that date would be greatly appreciated.

                                      Lee
From: aydin@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: TICO TIMES SUBSCRIPTION
Keywords: Costa Rica, Tico Times
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:12:10 GMT
Reply-To: aydin@cruzio.santa-cruz.ca.us


A recent question regarding subscribing to Tico Times.  I'm just back and have
the latest issue in hand.  In the US, a 6 month sub is $26.50 and 12 months is
$45.00.  You can also get a trial 3 month (13 issues) sub. for $16.50.  Send a
check to Tico Times, Dept 717, P.O. Box 025216, Miami, FL 33102.  The ad says
to expect delivery in 3-4 weeks.  All amounts above in US$.  Enjoy.  But don't
just read about it, go.
From: frisbee@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Tyler Brown)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Mission Bay, San Diego
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:27:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)

We (2 adults, 2 young kids) are going to Mission bay for a mid-week vacation
next month. We are staying in a hotel on Mission Beach. Need opinions on
restaurants/sights/good beach zones for the family.

		frisbee@devvax.jpl.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.food.restaurants
From: dianat@redsun.pps.rain.com (Diana Thompson)
Subject: >>>>> HALF-PRICE TIMESHARE <<<<<
Organization: Portland Public Schools, Portland Or.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 16:46:42 GMT

		PUERTO VALLARTA TIMESHARE FOR SALE

	One week, one bedroom condo in Puerto Vallarta.  Week is #50
(December) and the resort is next to the beach with pools, restaurants, 
parties, lots of other activities, and not far from the city and airport.
It is possible to exchange this week for prime time at other resorts 
worldwide.  Price includes 2 bonus weeks.  Resort is Villa del Mar and
it is run by UVC.  This price is about 1/2 of the original cost -- change
in circumstances prompts sale.

			$4800 or offer
		      Diana Thompson (503) 699-5028
	
-- 
***********************************************************************
Diana Thompson				     dianat@redsun.pps.rain.com
Portland Public Schools				(usual disclaimer here)
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From: bsmorgan@sdrc.COM (Brian Morgan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Vacation in Mazatlan, Mexico?
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:09:07 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SDRC

Hi -
   I am considering a vacation next year in Mazatlan with my family, and am
looking for some scoop -
We would be going around Easter, staying in a condo complex.  The family
includes my wife and I, a 7 year old girl, 12 year old girl, and 14 year old
boy.  These kids LOVE the beach!
Anyway, would there be enough to keep the kids occupied for a week?  What
kind of weather should I expect around Easter?  Are there any other things
I should be concerned about?
    Thanks for the help!
      Brian
        bsmorgan@sdrc.com
From: henry@ilx057 (David Henry)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: indonesia
Date: 26 Jul 92 05:52:19 GMT
Organization: Intel
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Re: Travel to Indonesia

Bali is highly recommended, We spent a great 2 weeks there. We stayed mainly
in Ubud which is the 'cultural centre' of the island. One of the main
attractions is nightly entertainment with dancers and Gamalan orchestras.

Bali is small enough to stay in one town and make daily trips to different
spots around the island. The roads are narrow and overcrowded and full of
buses and trucks belching diesel smoke. Jeeps and motorbikes can be easily
rented and are quite cheap. It is common practice to rent privately from the
owner and then go and buy insurance.

Accomodation is plentiful and cheap. We rented a brand new bungalow in a
beautifully kept garden with breakfast, cost $12 for 2 people! And that was
expensive!

The main drawback of Bali is street hustlers. Learn to ignore them.
--
David Henry, Intel Corporation, Haifa, ISRAEL
henry@iil.intel.com phone +972 435 5019 fax +972 435 5674
From: rayman@lookout.uswest.com (Raymond Goure)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Trip to Tortola, BVI any ideas?
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:33:22 GMT
Organization: US WEST Communications

I will be spending the week of 8/9/92 on the island and am hoping to 
get as many ideas as possible from this posting. If you have been to
the island and know of some must-do things to-do then please mail 
at the above e-mail. This is our honeymoon so some of the agend is already
complete.

thanks

rayman
.
From: ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Canadian Taxes-Refund
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:42:13 GMT
Organization: UC Davis Dept of Applied Science at LLNL

In article <douglasc.711967552@sfu.ca> douglasc@fraser.sfu.ca (Douglas Ming Chong) writes:

>The other method of getting a refund is to visit a Canadian Duty-Free
>store with your receipts.  With proof of residency in the U.S. you
>can fill out the form at the Duty-Free Store and instantly receive
>your GST refund from that store.

Not necessarily.  When I was in Montreal last August, the people at
the Duty Free store at Dorval Airport told me that they were no
longer accepting the tax refund form -- that all refund requests had
to be submitted by mail.  This was despite the fact that the form
had a list of Duty Free stores, including the one at Dorval, that 
supposedly accepted the forms.

Ed
ed@wente.llnl.gov

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Passport needed for visa?
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:36:45 GMT

davelett@athena.mit.edu (Richard Sun) wrote: 
->Most embassies in NYC will also grant instant visas.  

this is pretty fabulous.

obligatory good news about the australian consulate in new york: i
flew down from boston to hand in my passport and temporary resident
visa application, and they turned it around that afternoon so i could
get a flight back to boston that evening.  usually they want a few
weeks so they can talk to  your sponsors, etc.

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
From: kozato@canon.co.uk (Yasuo Kozato)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: New Malaria Cases in Kenya
Date: 24 Jul 92 08:31:50 GMT
Organization: Canon Research Centre Europe Ltd

Hi,

I've read a recent newspaper saying cases of a new kind of malaria
appeared in Kenya and the risk is getting higher. It says a brother of
a British MP died of the disease, and existing tablets are useless. I
wonder how higher the risk is, as I'm planning to go there this
autumn.

If anyone else have heard this sort of information, please let me
know. 

Thanks.
-- 
Yasuo Kozato                      kozato@canon.co.uk
Canon Research Centre Europe
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: DEANRE@bscf.uga.edu (ROBIN DEAN)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: info wanted for whale watching in Boston area
Date: 30 Jul 92 15:46:03 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, USA
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

I am going to be in Boston this next week and wanted to try and
go on a whale watching trip.  Does anyone know of any in the Boston
area?  Is this a good time to go?  Any information would be appreciated.

                           Thanks in advance
                           Rob
From: skaamjm@ucl.ac.uk (Matthew Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Price of train from Gatwick to London?
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:04:36 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

rkmossm@pbhyb.PacBell.COM (Richard Mossman) writes:

>The BritRail pass does cover the trip from Gatwick to Victoria Station, but 
>does not cover the underground while in London. I think it cost 80p to go
>from Victoria to (argh! brain fade) the station where we caught our train 
>North to York.

Shouldnt have cost you 80p.

You can buy a normal ticket from Gatwick to York, which allows you to use the
tube. (Or Any other traverse of London).
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