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From: kmosher@kmosher.acd.ucar.edu (Kathleen G. Mosher)
Subject: New to group - introduction
Organization: Ntl Center for Atmospheric Research, Atmospheric Chemistry
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:48:57 GMT

Hi!  I am new to this group - but have asked a few questions recently
while trying to acquire a new dog.  Well, we now have a new dog, and
if you are interested, I thought I would update everyone. (I am dying
to tell everyone about our wonderful dog!)

First, about my family.  We are a family of three - me, my husband, and
an eight year old boy.  My husband and I both work full time - usual
8 - 5 hours.  My husband and I have both owned dogs before, but this is
my son's first.  Somehow, my son got it into his head that he wanted a
German Shepherd, and I have always wanted a German Shepherd, so we were
going to buy a purebred.  But, because we have no interest in breeding,
or showing, we decided to 'hang out' at the local shelter until we fell
in love.

We found Doogie at the local shelter.  He is around 10 months old, and
looks like a purebred shepherd (he is beautiful - black and a goldish tan,
with a smidgeon of white on his chest).  His ears are still to big for him,
and his paws are still big and clunky looking.  He weighed 50 pounds when
we got him (3 weeks ago), and now he weighs approx. 65 pounds!  He weighs
more than my son!  BTW, we are feeding him IAMS or Science Diet - whichever
we have on hand at the time: is there any truth to the statement that this
food is better for your dogs?  

Doogie immedietely became a member of our family.  He is very smart - he
catches onto things very quickly!  He is very gentle, and listens very well.
And he loves my son to death - always has to know exactly where Matthew is!
I can't imagine our lives without him now, we all are very attached.  And, 
Doogie is so attached to us that he behaves (almost) perfectly, except when
we leave.  Then he tears things up.  So, we have dog proofed the garage, and
we leave him there while we are away.  This is working out very nicely.

Of course, with any new puppie, all is not heaven.  There are some things that
Doogie needs to learn.  So we enrolled him in an obedience class, which he is 
doing fine in.  But he still has a tendency to only obey when he wants to, although
it is obvious that he fully understands what it is that you want of him.
A couple of problems we are currently trying to solve are jumping on people - 
particularly my son who is not strong enough or mature enough for the authority in the
voice to disuade Doogie from jumping.  And, Doogie does not bark or show any sign of
interest at all when someone knocks or rings the front door.  How do you teach a dog
to bark when someone knocks on the door?

Well, I hope this wasn't too long, but thanks for the opportunity to brag!  From
some of what I have read in this group - YES you can get an excellent dog from
the local shelter!

Kathy
From: kjt34420@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Kristin J. Thommes)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: seizures
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:53:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BxvDLs.4Fx
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I have a question for you all.  I have a dog who has "seizures" about
once a week or so.  I am a vet student and have worked in animal hospitals
for awhile, and we have done all kinds of blood work on him and everything is
normal except that he is making antibodies to his own T3 (a thyroid hormone).
He hasn't gone hypothyroid yet, but he will someday, so we are doing a couple
of one-month trials on some different meds to see if they might stop the
seizuring.  (Although it is unlikely that the thyroid is causing seizures, it 
is worth a shot anyways).  If the medicine doesnt work to stop the seizures
(and so far it seems to make no difference), we are going to go ahead and put
him on phenobarb and hopefully that will do the trick.

Well, I guess the question that I wanted to ask was if anyone has ever had a
dog that seizures like he does.  It is not a "typical" epileptic seizure.
What happens is first, he starts acting kind of strange-he walks up to me
or stays very very close by (I think maybe because he is scared).  Then what
happens is a sort of generalized hind limb weakness?  where he starts shaking
and he arches his back a little and his hind legs bend under him just like when
a dog does a really slow sit-down.  He usually ends up sitting at this point.
Then he will start to have the same sort of thing happen to his front legs and
he will lie down.  This whole time he is conscious BTW and he will try to get
up and follow me if I try to leave him.  Then once he is lying down, he will
start to bob his head from side to side and his pupils will dilate (and are 
unresponsive to a flashlight).  He goes through a sort of stiff period also
where he will usually curl up his front legs as if he has an itch on his
face that he is trying to scratch.  Once he goes through that, he just seems
to gradually improve until he is OK.  When the "seizure" is over, he acts
perfectly normal so there is no way for me to know if he does this when I am
not at home.  Sometimes he will drool during these episodes and he seems to
have difficulty swallowing.  The entire seizure usually lasts about 4-5 minutes
when I time it from the time he start to go wek in the back to when I can get
him to stand and walk normally.

I'm just curious to see if anyone else has heard of this kind of seizure before.
It's callled a "Jacksonian" type seizure because it begins in one area and 
marches progressively to the next.  Oh another thing, I just got him this 
summer fomr an animal shelter, so I dont know about his past.  Also, he is 
about 4 years old, castrated, eats purina dog chow (he is allergic to
chicken and eggs) and is some sort of collie mix.

Any input would be appreciated.


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/ hpcss01:rec.pets.dogs / Alex@camp.wpic.pitt.edu (Alex Ferguson ) / 10:17 am  Nov 20, 1992 /

>

Hi,
.>
	I remember briefly reading something awhile back about a list that 
y>
ou can mail away for which gives information about vacation-type places 
which allow pets.  I can't find the address & I was wondering if anybody had 
it handy & could send it to me.

	What would be ideal is a condo type place, relitively secluded on 
the shore (East Coast).  I know that Holiday Inn's allow pets, but I'm not 
really looking to rent a cell for my time off. 

						Thanks,
							Alex

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-I have had good luck when I specifically ask about being able to bring a dog.  We are going to Sedona, AZ for new years, and found a nice country club resort that allows dogs.  When I inquired, they asked "how big ARE your dogs?"  I replied that when people ask that, they're usually assuming that a Saint Bernard will do more "damage per hour" than a dachsund.... and then I explain about how we 
crate our dogs, how they do therapy work in hospitals, how we have obedience trained them, etc.  -- and the attitude on the other end improves greatly.
-ii

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From: dwatson1@metz.une.edu.au (David Watson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: best food for dog on diet
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:40:36 GMT
Organization: University of New England, Armidale, Australia

In article <1992Nov13.223427.18052@linus.mitre.org> pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith) writes:
>my siberian was neutered in april 1992 and has developed a fierce appetite for
>dog food.  He has also been found eating cat food and scolded.  His weight
>has gone from a suitable 53 pounds to 76 pounds since the summer.   Some of
>the problem was that he was on steriods for allergies and that does increase
>his appetite.  He is also a bit more confined due to his insistance on breaking
>out of a fenced in yard.  He now has a smaller fenced area under our deck and
>also has access to the deck but he is not running as he once was.  When he
>dug out of our yard he presumably ran miles.  So considering he is more 
>contained, what can we do to get his figure back? He is 5 1/2 years old and
>eats 4 cups of dry food a day.  The dog food bag says to feed more but he
>has always done fine with 4 cups/day.  What kind of diet food is recommended 
>and in what quantity?  Thanks in advance. 

3 things. REplace 1/2 the food with cooked carrot, cabbage, and brown rice.
	  Suppliment the food with Amino Acid suppliment (over here it is
	  called AFTZ - Skin Tonic) as it will take care of the allergy problem
	  in some cases. I've gotten a dog off steriods with it.
	  Walk the dog at least a mile a day.

I reckon in 2-3 weeks you'll see the change.

I'm sure the post will add to my list...

David Watson
Yascott Kennels			Breeding Better Brindles - Scottish Terriers
Armidale, NSW 
Australia				(Pups in 10 Days!)
From: mfriley@pacman.WPI.EDU (Margaret F Riley)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: UPDATE: Gaseous GSD...
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:39:04 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <BxtIAH.3LF@news.cso.uiuc.edu> schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu () writes:
>
>
>Well folks, as I was going to the vet Saturday with Dante, the jester-cat,
>anyway, I decided to ask him about little Siegfried and his gas and gulping
>problem. I don't know why I couldn't put two and two together myself, 
>but hey, that's what vets are for, right!? :)
>
>I asked him what we could do to slow down Siegfried and his inhaling food
>(that's about what he does, hardly chews at all). He asked what we were
>feeding, that was okay, how often, yes 3x day was right, was he getting enough,
>yes, food was left in the bowl. Was he bothered by the other animals, no, not
>that often. So, He gave me the impression that there really wasn't anything
>to stop him from inhaling his food and that, if wewere lucky, he'd just
>out grow it. So, then I asked about his gas problem. The vet said that most
>likely was a product of his gulping down food. (now why didn't *I* think
>of that??) As he most likely was inhaling quite a bit of air with all that
>snarfing! He said a change in food MIGHT help, but probably not.

I would have to disagree here.  I was feeding MY Siegfried Royal Canine for
puppy food and he had *terrible* gas.   When he reached 16 months, we began
to switch him over to adult BilJac because RC was difficult to get.  At
18 months, when he went completely to BJ, his gas problems are practically
nil.   (Sometimes he makes funny little noises when out walking and Mommy
knows to head him towards the bushes. :-))

Margaret
From: fu@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Fu Dain)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:10:01 GMT
Subject: A Chines Shar-pei dog for adoption
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Clara, CA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

   A  about 3 1/2 years pure breed and spayed Chinese Shar-Pei female
dog is free for a good home. She is house broken and friendly. If you 
have a good home, please call 265-7399 (evening).

                             Fu
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From: julieann@cmhcsys.cmhcsys.com (Julieann Fitchwell)
Subject: Pedigree Dog Stuff
Organization: CMHC Systems
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:16:24 GMT

Some of you were looking for pet supply catalogs a little while ago. Here's the
address and number of one of my favorites - Pedigrees. It's not as snobby as it
sounds, and it has some cat stuff too.

I've ordered some shirts with Boston Terriers embroidered on them, and a few
small things.  I've been very happy with the quality, although some of the
stuff that can be found at local stores (like Pet Food SuperMart) can be picked
up at less cost.

They do have quite a few unique dog lover things. It's definitely worth the 
call!

JulieAnn
                          Pedigrees - The Pet Catalog
                          1989 Transit Way
                          Box 905
                          Brockport, NY 14420-0905 
                          (716) 637-1431
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From: kirsten@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Kirsten Starcher)
Subject: Re: Dog had kidney failure, is better but won't eat!
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: jadpc2
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:27:08 GMT

In article <9211151200.AA2066@f723.n202.z1.fidonet.org> ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org writes:
>  Sorry but it really sounds like your dog has lost it's will to live.
> She just had a total renal shutdown!  this dog know it is seriously
>ill.  Did you think if you had her on IV for a couple of days, her
>kidneys would suddenly be well?  I'm afraid all you can do at this
>point is run up a vet bill, and end up with a dead dog anyway.  Your
>dog doesn't Want to live.  Nothing you do can instill a desire to
>live.

Thank you for your kind and encouraging reply.

That HAS occurred to me.  But in every other way, the dog seems quite happy.
It's not as if she's "lying down to die" -- she comes up to us and sooks for
attention, when we take her out she seems to sniff about with some interest, if
people come to the door she greets them happily -- it's not as if she's shut
everything out entirely.  She's herself, but she won't eat.

As for being "suddenly well" after an IV, jeez, no, I don't expect her to be
perfectly herself.  But dogs can have serious kidney failures and live.  And
dogs can be on IV for a long time and still live.

Don't think I'm denying the possibility that my dog may die.  But I was looking
for *suggestions* on how to bring her back to health, not someone telling me I
don't have a hope in hell.

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From: ml31157@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michael Latash )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Deafness and Dalmatians
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:02:25 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

There has been some talk about deafness being associated with white colora-
tion.  This is simply not so.  The genes are not linked.  If you want some
examples, think about whether dogs like Great Pyrenees or white Great Danes
are reported to be more deaf than other dogs.  In my opinion and experience,
there is no real correlation between deafness and white color OR deafness and
the Dalmatian breed.  Dalmatians ARE more prone than most to a urological
syndrome that causes the urea in urine to crystallize.  This has traditional-
ly been a genetic problem with this breed until one enterprising and astute
breeder whose name escapes me now decided to bring in Pointer blood into the
breed.  The urological problem is due to two recessive alleles (for those of
you who know a little genetics), and within a few generations, this breeder was
able to get rid of this trait.  After that, he began the long and arduous task
of "cleaning" out the Pointer blood from his dogs, and, after many years, was
finally able to put his dogs back into the stud books.  He got rid of the
genetic defect.

Dr. Mike DVM
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Second request: Is there no help for howling pup upstairs?
Date: 23 Nov 92 05:27:26 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

My landlords have a year-old cocker spaniel which howls for HOURS
every morning when they leave. I received only one response to my
earlier plea, a suggestion about legal action. Well, it's a nice dog,
and my landlords are nice people, so I don't really see any reason to
get formal. It just makes me unhappy to hear the poor dog.
  Is this dog really as unhappy as it sounds, or is it just a tantrum?
Also, will a year-old-exactly pup grow out of this behaviour? 
The dog is left alone about 35 hours a week over six days, which
doesn't seem excessive. 
  thanks for any suggestions on how to make the dog happier!
thanks, Betsy
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From: feldman@cs.tulane.edu (Damon Feldman)
Subject: Re: Old Shoes = Nutrition??
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-25292]: diana
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:49:17 GMT



>believe their product is really made from sirloin, tenderloin, rounds, rib
>roasts and chops, etc.!  Can anyone =seriously= believe they are getting this

Sirloin is good people food, but meat alone is not adequate for dogs.
They get many nutrients from meat by products "in the wild".

>Here is a "desirable" analysis for a canned dog food:
>Crude protein......10%
>Crude fat..........6.5%
>Crude fiber........2.4%
>Ash................4.3%
>Moisture...........68%

>Here are ingredient that =could be= used to make a product which will conform
>to the analysis:

>4 pairs old work shoes, leather
>1 gallon crankcase oil, used
[etc.]

This is from the Science Diet propaganda dept.  It is possible to
include non-digestable proteins etc. in food and get high protein
numbers, but how many companies actually do that?  Many competitive
trainers/breeders use "premium" foods other than S.D. Iams, and
Eukanuba (cheaper ones, that is), so I assume that some of them are
good.

Damon
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From: emm@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ellen.m.mcsorley)
Subject: re: retrieving the news paper
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 13:47:38 GMT

Yeah, I tried this with my two Newfs.  Sophie would
just spit it out when I put it in her mouth.  I tried
Arnie with it ONCE!  "Here Arnie, take it.  GOOD boy!
Now, IN the house!"  at which point he ran to the middle
of the front yard and ripped the paper into two pieces,
looking DREADFULLY proud of himself!!

"Uh, LOOK, hon!  Look what the stupid paper boy did to
your newspaper!  Gee, he must have, uh, (let's see...)
OH, thrown it on a rose bush!  Yeah, that's right!  Some
of those thorns....."
From: thuyan@ravel.udel.edu (Thuy-An Hartman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: TATOOING DOGS
Date: 19 Nov 92 00:35:34 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <64640004@hpcss01.cup.hp.com> bassett@hpcss01.cup.hp.com (Diane Bassett) writes:
>/ hpcss01:rec.pets.dogs / 275s@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Wendy Bortnick) /  9:18 am  Nov 12, 1992 /
>Hi,
>
>Has anyone had their dog tatooed.  I was wondering whether it is painful
>and how long does it take.
>
>Wendy



Sheba was tatooed yesterday.  (after all the discussion, I thought $20
was nothing to protect my best friend)

It did not hurt her.  She almost slept through it.  She was not sore
afterwards.  

I think she was more upset about lying on the table, spread eagle, than
she was the tatoo!
:)

My advice is go ahead.  How else can you protect your friend if he or
she runs away?

Thuy-An
From: rhh@alice.att.com (r hardin)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: behavior modification or dog training
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:41:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: alice.24223
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill NJ



Marla Belzowski writes:
>Why, because she has a different learning style and different
>temperment.  Some dogs thrive on a very dominant and commanding
>trainer and some dogs deteriorate given the same atmosphere.

[just to mark the article -]

I've been trying to say, Koehler doesn't dominate, and make that point
as strongly as I can.

I think every dog deteriorates if you dominate him, which is one
of the points I keep making.

The learning style is going to depend a lot on what you're teaching.
If you teach what Koehler does, the way he does, it always works.

What he teaches is character, which is almost unintelligible in this
age of the Victim.
From: sbishop@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Bullmastiffs
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:19:31 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

In article <17437@mindlink.bc.ca>, Dave_Allen@mindlink.bc.ca (Dave Allen) writes:
> We have recently published a book on Bullmastiffs (by Bill Walkey) and have
> tried to contact all the Clubs in N.A. but may have missed a few. DO
> Bullmastiff Fanciers frequent this are of Usennet?
> 

Well, if I ever decide to get another dog, I am very partial to either
Bullmastiffs or English Mastiffs.

Sue

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From: shaw@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Shaw Moldauer)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:31:01 GMT
Subject: Re: dog house heat
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs

In rec.pets.dogs, suew@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Sue Wood) writes:

> Has anyone out there found a good way to heat a freestanding dog
> house?
> 
> Thanks,
> Sue W.

	Put a light bulb in a wide mouth quart mason jar. Wire it up,
plug it in, turn it on. Hang a carpet scrap over the entrance. 100W
for a large doghouse, 75,60, or 40 Watts for smaller. 

					-Shaw

p.s. A doghouse sized to the dog allows the dog to heat the house.
a single coated dog or very small dog may need more help, like the
light bulb.
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From: bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown)
Subject: Re: Can dogs eat large amounts of beta carotine?
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 04:57:20 GMT

tara@starburst.umd.edu (Tara McDermott) writes:

>For personal reasons, I don't want to get my 6 month old (52 pound)
>dog rawhide treats.  Is there a problem with him chewing to bits and
>eating sweet potatoes (the red/orange kind), carrots and other sticky
>hard crunchy vegetables (haven't fed him anything yet other than the
>first two)???  He's being fed Science Diet Puppy food for right now,
>since I'm not going to jeopardise his health by feeding him adult
>vegetarian dog food, quite yet anyway.  

If you wanted a vegetarian pet, why didn't you get a herbivorous
animal like a rabbit?

>I'd prefer a response in e-mail if possible, as I don't usually read
>this group.  Thank you for any serious replies...

>--
>Tara McDermott                                  tara@starburst.umd.edu

>Sweet and sweet is their poisoned note, the little snakes' of silver throat,
>in mossy skulls that nest and lie, ever singing "die, oh! die."

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