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From: Stan.Woodard@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Stan Woodard)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Film Proposal
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 12:46:44 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

* Original To  : Andrew Stoker (1:228/65)


Good to hear from you. We're at the grass roots stage as of now.
It's also very esoteric as you can imagine. The man is Del Shannon.
He was from this area in West Michigan. I'm from Muskegon on the
Lake Michigan shoreline.
I'm not a Director. I wrote the MP/Screen Treatment.
I'll tell you what I can do. You send your address to me with an SASE
and I'll give it to the Executive Producer up the road 40 miles, and
who is currently in the process of finalizing a film to be shot next
summer in this area. The financing for that one is complete.
Remember, on this one, we don't even have a 120 page screenplay yet,
but the story's been done and reworked for two years. It's making the
rounds in California and is with the Michigan Film Commission now. 
I wrote two Vietnam screenplays in the very early '80s, that went around
the world. No one would touch them because of the subject which happened
to be autobiographical. And then along came Oliver Stone and a guy from
Philadelphia. Results: Platoon and Good Morning Vietnam.
This time, without a screenplay, no one is saying no. The film will be
very on the edge and contemporary, and probably is two years, maybe three
from being in a theater near you.


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From: Andy.Vanduyne@p1.f75.n2608.z1.fidonet.org (Andy Vanduyne)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Correspondence
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 11:11:24 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2608/75.1 - Norkids BBS, Norwood NY

* Quoting  ...Joshua Kramer of 1:226/540
* Orig. To ...Jill Fodrocy
* Posted   ...Wed, Aug 19 92 at 14:47

JF>Lake Michigan. Run Cross Country; work at an ice cream shop to pay 

 JK> Do you REALLY think you'll pay it off by then? <g>  Who gave you the

This has left the realm of Performing Arts Education- please move the thread 
to the chat echoes- thanks.

Andy VanDuyne
K12 Performing Arts Ed. Moderator
1:2608/75


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From: Andrew.Stoker@f615.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Andrew Stoker)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: To stay in music education or not....
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 17:38:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/615

Dear Holli-
     I am going to be a freshman this fall, and I am a music ed 
major.  I have wanteed to do this since 8th grade!  Where do you go 
to college?  I will be attending the Crane school of Music at 
Potsdam.  I chose music ed, because I like working with younger 
people, showing the how to develop their skills.  No matter what, i 
think I would have been a teacher, but I specified music, because I 
learn and can understand musical concepts easily.  Why have you 
changed majors?
-andy

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From: Stan.Woodard@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Stan Woodard)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Film
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 09:58:36 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

If you are interested, wait a year, then send an inquiry to me with SASE,
stating intentions as to investment. Keep in mind, we're still at grass
roots level, and not asking for anything right now. If you're a college
student, you'll have time to think about this. Also, know that a film
like THE DOORS cost over 40 mill. This will probably be less,  but not
by much. This will be an interesting project. And it isn't easy.


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From: Stan.Woodard@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Stan Woodard)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: My address
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 18:51:48 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

* Original To  : Andrew Stoker (1:228/65)


Northern Lights Limited
c/o Woodard
The 701 Center
North Muskegon, Michigan 49445


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From: Andrew.Stoker@f615.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Andrew Stoker)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: HI
Date: Tue, 11 Aug 92 15:39:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/615

Hello Andy!
    How are you doing?  Well, there are about three weeks until I 
leave for Potsdam! I'm really getting excited and perhaps a little 
nervous since I haven't heard anything about my roomate!  As far as 
my music this summer, well there hasn't been a lot.  I've sort of 
ignored my sax a little, only practicing a couple times a week as 
opposed to my normal 10-12 hours.  I'm sure that I'll regret this in 
just a few weeks.  I was just at Potsdam three weeks ago for 
orientation.  That really psyched me up for the things to come.  I 
was surprised that only 8 or nine new saxes were selected to the 
freshman class.  I think there  were 5 altos and 3 or 4 tenors. 
Also I met a lot of great people.  One of whom was from Norwood!  I 
asked if she knew of you and se said yes.  I don't recall her name, 
but it's a small world!  My summer has been really busy but that is 
changing.  I've worked at my school painting some of the rooms and 
part of the outside so that has kept me busy, out of trouble and 
really tired, even though it's 7 and a half hours, 7am to 3pm. 
That's about all I've done.  I went on a short vacation after I went
to orientation, down to Old Forge, where my band director and his 
wife have a cabin.  We're really good freinds of their family. 
Well, I guess I should go.   If you leave your address and phone 
number, I'll be sure to look you up when I'm at Potsdam!
andy stoker

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From: Jill.Fodrocy@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Jill Fodrocy)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Correspondence
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 09:51:26 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

Would enjoy writing to students from outside the U.S. Am 13, an honor
student, no nerd, live outside of the city of Muskegon, MI. near
Lake Michigan. Run Cross Country; work at an ice cream shop to pay for
my red Fiero which sits patiently in a building waiting for me to turn
16, and I have a dog named Cody, age 1, who will probably not be attending
Oxford as a mature mongrel. Like country and rock music.


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From: Barbara.Mathews@f8.n300.z1.fidonet.org (Barbara Mathews)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: Penpal
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 00:00:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:300/8 - Edge of Forever, Tucson Az

Hi Ian,

IB>Bass Clef
IB>Tenor Clef
IB>Alto Clef
IB>Soprano Clef
IB>Treble Clef (Concert Pitch, Bb Transposing, French "F" horn)

IB>It pays to be versatile   :-)

Looks like you're very versatile! I read bass clef, and am in the midst
of learning alto. I've been doing so much bass clef that I really have
to stop and think about soprano when I have t-bone in grubby paws. How
do you manage to do the last one? That's a new one on me. Didn't know
you could transpose F horn music for bone. Or can you only do it with a
bass horn or a trigger horn???

The main conductor of my band, Howard Beaver, of Beaver's Tucson Concert
Band, is going to be down there in October. He's talking about another
band tour "down under" in a year or two. Don't know whether I'll get to
go on this one. Rather doubt it, the $$$ being what it is.

Can you think of anyone he should talk to (names and addresses)?

What are you, psychic or something? I'd just written a line of this
message asking whether my address ever got to you, as yours didn't
arrive here, and the very next message in the packet was your address!
I've already called it in to Tom Ervin's message phone. And I'm goin
to put it in my computer address file so it doesn't get lost.

Tom called back and acknowledged receipt of your address. Care package
from him should be going out shortly.

Just had a lesson with Tom Saturday. I need to give more time to
practicing! There's no such thing as enough, or too much!  How much do
you practice? Per day? Per week. How much time do you devote to high
range stuff? Etudes?  I guess what I'm asking is what's your practice
routine like?

I did one thing though that I hope I shall never do again... . I hadn't
practiced as much as I thought I should through the last two weeks, so I
kind of crammed on Thursday night for an hour and again on Friday night,
doing a lot of high range stuff all at once. Saturday, after the lesson,
my chops felt very, very tired, like the last time I played a four-hour
dance job. I didn't really feel right until Sunday.  I hadn't realized
you could actually strain your facial muscles.

Anyway, this message is allegedly private. Don't know who sees it
besides bbs sysops.
Here goes then:

Barbara Mathews
4535 E.30th St.
Tucson, AZ 85711 USA

By the way, *what* do you folks see in vegemite and marmite? I tried
the stuff when I was there and it just tastes like bitter goo. Maybe
it's an acquired taste that you have to grow up with?

TTYL. It's animal feeding and practice time.
Barbara
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From: Richard.Martin@f430.n110.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Martin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.music
Subject: RE: To stay in music education or not....
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 13:58:02 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:110/430 - CURRENTS, Dayton OH

Suggest you contact the Musical Educators National Conference (Check with any
mus ed teacher for the address).  Also, many many schools throughout the US
are cutting back on their extra programs because of lack of funds.  It seems a 
pity to spend all the time and money to acquire a music ed degree and not be
able to get a decent paying job in the school systems.  Additionally, you will 
find that if you are associated with the professional musician union, that
most musicians are part-time professional musicians and their bread and
butter are with some other type of job not in music.  I would suggest that if
you are truely interested in making a career in music, be it teaching or
performacne, that you acquire as much diversified knowlege and skill in the
world of music.  This will enable you to fall back on other musical skills
beside teaching (e.g., knowledge of sound engineering, experience in
performance with some ensemble, knowledge of the business side of music, etc.) 
Talk to the pros and others involved with teaching in and out of the school
systems.  Talk to those in any of the schools systems you are interested in
teaching in.  Additionally, try to acquire some skill and knowedge in a field
outside of music that you can fall back on when you cannot get a job in music. 
 However, the bottom line is that if you are truely dedicated to the idea of
maying your living with music, then by all means set your sights on music. 
However, keep in mind that the more divirsified you are in the field of music
the more saleable you become.


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From: Karen.Canales@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Canales)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: Questions
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 01:32:36 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

   Hello Jim,
    How are you tonight?I'm fine.I'm glad you answered my letter:>
  There have been others,but they tell me to call this place fifty million miles away and I think my phone bill will run sky high.
  I was wondering how you download.I have never done that in my life,so I could use some help there.
 I was wondering what exactly do you do here?That's my main question.
 Thank you for writting and I hope to write to you in the near future:>

   Karen Canales


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From: Terry.Bowden@f628.n712.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Bowden)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: Parenting Skills
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 13:16:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:712/628 - Education Database, Sydney University

There hasn't been much said in this message area. For a while there 
I was thinking that there must be a break in the link. Just a tiny
trickle. Why is that? Is the title too off-putting?  Life Skills.

It's too many years to count since I went to school, too long since I
was a University student. But one thing I do remember - the whole
education system failed to prepare me for a very important aspect
of my life. A few years after I started work, I got married, and
then over the next 12 years my wife and I had 6 children.
 
I feel sorry for my first child. She had to break me in to what 
being a father meant. And this was while I was trying to break 
her in to what I thought being a baby meant. The worst aspect of
it all was, that despite my university degree in mathematics and
languages, nobody had bothered to teach me anything at all about
parenthood. In my day, there was no such subject as Life Skills.

Now that was something I got quite vocal about. How much of my life
is spent earning money in my job - for which the system prepared
me well, and how much was spent being a father? Which is more 
important? I figure I can answer those questions. What I can't
figure out, is how the education system could have overlooked the
importance of parenthood in the curriculum. I also wonder if both
teachers and students realise the importance of this subject today.


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From: Karen.Canales@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Canales)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: QUESTIONS
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 01:28:18 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

   Hello Ed,
    Thank you for responding not most people would take the time:>
    I'd like to ask you a few questions.Are you the Ed on Underground Speech?And if you are have you talked to the Sysop?If you have could you please tell me his name?
  If I'm wrong I'm sorry and I hope I don't make the mistake again.

    Karen A.S. Canales




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From: Karen.Canales@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Canales)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject:  Quastions
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 23:34:36 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

     Hello,
       You proable don't know who I am and I sure don't know who you are,but I was looking through the listings and found your name and the last date you were here and I found out it was recently and I wanted to ask questions to a person who would proable be on tomorrrow or in a few days.
  Well,let me get to the point.I'm writting to ask you a few questions about this baord.my first one is,what are you supposed to do on this thing??????????
I get the feeling that not alot of other people don't get on this thing,personaly I love getting to know all sorts of diffrent people.I get on american online when ever I can and the sierra network board.
  I'm getting off the subject again,sorry.
  I was wondering what "tagging" ment.When I get in the mail room "tag" appears.
  You're proable wondering why I'm bugging you {and if I am bugging you I'm extemly sorry},well my father is busy all the time and I need to ask somebody to see if I can use this stuff in the future.
    Well,I'll take no more of your time{and mine}.

                      Sincerly,
                         Karen Canales


                 P.S.I hope you get this message soon:>



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From: Karen.Canales@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Canales)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: QUESTIONS
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 19:22:20 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

     DOES ANYBODY READ THE MESSAGES ON THIS BOARD?????????????
  IF MY OTHER MESSAGE WENT THROUGH AND PEOPLE ACTULLY READ IT,THEN YOU KNOW I'M CRYING OUT FOR HELP:>
  IF ANYBODY CAN HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO ON THIS THING THEN SPEAK UP{OR WRITE UP}.
 TIL TOMORROW,BYE.


    KAREN CANALES
























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From: Jim.Harned@f2051.n147.z1.fidonet.org (Jim Harned)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: Questions
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 14:23:04 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:147/2051 - The O.U. BBS, Norman OK

Karen... I was just scanning the mail on the system and ran into your
notes.  I am new to the k12net also but will be happy to help you
figure it out if you will help me too.  I am a college teacher at the
University of Oklahoma.  That doesn't mean much when it comes to
knowing how to use k12net though.  Let me know if you get this message
and what questions you might have.  I imagine that is the best way to
start.
 Jim


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From: Terry.Bowden@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Bowden)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject:  Quastions
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 10:21:50 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Karen,
SInce you seem to be floundering around a bit, I thought I'd
jump in and try to help.
 KC> I found out it was recently and I wanted to ask 
 KC> questions to a person who would proable be on tomorrrow 
 KC> or in a few days.
 KC>   Well,let me get to the point.I'm writting to ask you 
This is my second message to you. Does that count?
 KC> a few questions about this baord.my first one is,what 
 KC> are you supposed to do on this thing??????????
The message area that you are using is for talking about such things
as "Life Skills" - such as home economics, careers, and so on.
Questions that are relevant to this message area would be along the
lines of : "I'm thinking of getting a job as a Public Relations person,
but I'm not sure what subjects I should be studying. What attributes
do I need to get into PR work?" 

You also asked about "TAGS" in your message. Well, this term crops up
in 3 different contexts in relation to bulletin boards. One meaning
of a TAG, is the unique short name of a bulletin board message area.
Examples might be K12_JR_CHAT for a message area tag that defines a topic
where Junior School students can chat.
A second meaning for TAG, is the smart little one-line message that
people often put at the end of theor message.  I'll put one at the
end of this one, to give you an example.

The third meaning of TAG, is in an abbreviation for Talented And Gifted.
There is a message are in these K12 areas called TAG, which is for those
students who are exceptionally talented. It is also there to allow educators
to discuss issues related to teaching the more gifted students.

I hope one of those three definitions fits your case in your quest
to find out what TAG is!

Well, it's a sunny morning here in Auckland New Zealand, after a few
stormy days, so I must get out and enjoy it.  Bye!

TAG LINE:  If at first you don't succeed, why be stubborn, just give up!



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From: Terry.Bowden@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Bowden)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: QUESTIONS
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 10:57:52 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

 KC>      DOES ANYBODY READ THE MESSAGES ON THIS BOARD?????????????
 KC>   IF MY OTHER MESSAGE WENT THROUGH AND PEOPLE ACTULLY 
 KC> READ IT,THEN YOU KNOW I'M CRYING OUT FOR HELP:>
 KC>   IF ANYBODY CAN HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE 
It's hard to know what to say in reply to that message.
The topic to be discussed is Home Economics, Life Skills, etc.
What specifically do you want to know on that topic?



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From: Edward.Dunagin@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Dunagin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: QUESTIONS
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 07:33:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

Hi Karen, you said.........................

KC>    I'd like to ask you a few questions.Are you the Ed on Underground
KC>Speech?And if you are have you talked to the Sysop?If you have could you
KC>please tell me his name?

Sorry, that's not me, so I guess I can't be of help<g>.

Peace...................................Ed

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From: Edward.Dunagin@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Edward Dunagin)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: QUESTIONS
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 11:19:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

Hi Karen. You said.....................

KC>I'M CRYING OUT FOR HELP:>
KC>  IF ANYBODY CAN HELP ME FIGURE OUT WHAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO DO ON THIS THING
KC>THEN SPEAK UP{OR WRITE UP}.
KC> TIL TOMORROW,BYE.

First, please don't shout. It hurts my eyes<g>. But anyway, here is a
response to you from Columbus, Ohio. I hope your ready for all the answers!

Peace......................Ed

 * SLMR 2.0 #1852 * "Deja Boo!" (Son of Casper?)



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From: Lynn.Redekopp@p10.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Lynn Redekopp)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.life-skills
Subject: QUESTIONS
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 14:32:00 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.10 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Karen, I am new at this also but might be of some assistance. I still haven't figured out how to do things easily but do know that it is pretty fun.  I have bveen able to read and reply to several statemnts, but have found that (as you can see) you cannot make corrections as you go.  So whatever gets on the screen stays her...there!  If you have specific questions ask and I'll see if I know anything about it.  Vince Long is also a user and mgiht be able to help out

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From: Tony.Suba@p0.f120.n231.z1.fidonet.org (Tony Suba)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: New Ideas
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 12:13:01 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:231/120.0 - Someplace BBS, Indianapolis IN

Joe maybe my class can work with yours on a project??? I'm trying 
for approval of in-house BBS at our school. Not sure how soon it may 
be in effect.. what do you think-our students will be 10, 11, and 
12 th grade-maybe a tutor  program or class project idea??/

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From: Gretchen.Harrell@f31.n343.z1.fidonet.org (Gretchen Harrell)
Newsgroups: k12.ed.tech
Subject: ESL Lep Telecom Ideas
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 18:03:55 PST
Organization: FidoNet node 1:343/31 - SEA/MAC, Seattle WA

Who has AWARD WINNING ideas for developing English language skills for K-12 ESL/LEP students using telecommunications?  Please keep messages public and use this subject label.  Thanks from a DESPERATE Lesley College student.                                                                 /s


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