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From: roth@csoadm.enet.dec.com (Lee Roth)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Sept Harpers - Bush - OWG
Date: 29 Aug 92 07:02:26 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Anybody else known anything about this? Just caught a blurb on a radio talk
show... based on what I *think* I heard the caller say: 

   The Sept. issue of Harpers magazine (?) has an article on Bush's long-term
   goals for one-world government... of which he will be head. Supposedly
   article details how the downfall of the US economy will be key in all of
   this...

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Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,phl.misc,pa.general,talk.politics.misc
From: dean@vexcel.com (Dean Myerson)
Subject: Re: Rely on science not on purposeful environmental hysteria
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder, CO
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:59:26 GMT

In article <mqa4PB1w164w@cellar.org> techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon) writes:
>part 3 of 4 parts Carbon dioxide Emissions
>   Environmentalists Claim: Rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere 
>arecreating a "greenhouse effect" which is causing global warnming. 
>Thiscondition results from man's increased use of fossil fuels(coal,gas,and 
>oil), a use which must be curtailed.
>   Scientists respond: Yes, there is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere we 
>breathe. And yes, itscontributes to what can be termend a "greenhouse 
>effect". But no, it has not caused the earth to warm (see above). More carbon 
>dioxide in the air is not a problem. Rather,it has been shown by a team of 
>Arizona Scientists led by Dr. Sherwood Idsoto be tremondously beneficial. 
>Afte a five year test, these agricultural scientists demonstrated that 
>controlled increases in carbon dioxide have nearly tripled the growth of 
>experimental orange trees, increased their fruit production tenfold, and 
>vastly increased their water use efficiency compared to their counterparts 
>grown side-by-side in ambient air. Even a great deal more carbon dioxide in 
>the air we breathe would have no adverse effect on humans.
>Sources:1) Sherwood B Idso, PhD, Carbon Dioxide and global change, IBR Press 
>Tempe, Arizona 1989
>2) Access to Energy newsletter, Petr Beckman, PhD Boulder Colorado
>
>------
>techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon)
>The Cellar BBS - (215) 654-9184

So now a group of scientists in Arizona have proved the climatological
community wrong.  What a revelation!  Mr. Bacon didn't respond to the
rebuttals to his silly ozone depletion post, so I don't imagine he will
here either.  The scientific community is well aware of the possible
benefits to agriculture from CO2 fertilization.  It only helps some
plants and noone is convinced that taller orange trees will make up for
a variety of other possible impacts.  While there is great uncertainty
on many issues relating to global warming, the above statment does not
represent the current state of knowledge.  As with my response to the
ozone post, I will be glad to e-mail a list of technical references to
anyone who wants it.
-- 

		dingo in boulder	(dean@vexcel.com)
From: ltf@ncmicro.lonestar.org (Lance Franklin)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: I DID IT
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:24:03 GMT
Organization: NC Microproducts, Inc.

In article <v9=n76+.richh@netcom.com> richh@netcom.com (richh) writes:
}
}Honest, it was me.
}
}RICHH

Stop lying, Richh...we all KNOW who you're protecting with this transparent
confession.

Are those Walnuts I smell on your breath?



Lance
-- 
Lance T. Franklin            +----------------------------------------------+
(ltf@ncmicro.lonestar.org)   | "You want I should bop you with this here    |
NC Microproducts, Inc.       |    Lollipop?!?"                 The Fat Fury |
Richardson, Texas            +----------------------------------------------+
From: Christic Institute <christic@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Date: 02 Sep 92 17:51 PDT
Subject: Re: Pat Buchannan Convention Speech
Nf-ID: #R:1992Sep1.133342.1@vax1.umkc.edu:-718815976:cdp:1299600063:000:183
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!christic    Sep  2 17:51:00 1992


The quote was more like:  "The Russians have got rid of their
left-wingers.  Why can't we get rid of our left-wingers?"  And
it was Pat Roberson's speech, not Buchanan's.

Andy Lang


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From: jimj@cleanplate.EBay.Sun.COM (James D. Jones)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,rec.autos
Subject: Re: UAW uses strike to lash out at Saturns!
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:48:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: male.l9spmqINNgme
Distribution: na
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cleanplate.ebay.sun.com

In article <1992Aug28.171523.22388@news.eng.convex.com> tford@convex.com (Tom Ford) writes:
>Since I bought my SL2 in march I've gotten a few letters from the president of
>Saturn that include surveys, etc.  I thought it was strange that the letters 
>were signed by the president and the UAW representative (I forgot his title).
>It made it look like UAW was a partner in the company.  I guess they
>are in some repect, but it turned me off.

Excerpted from today's story on the strike in the San Jose Mercury News:

"The innovative labor "partnership" between GM's Saturn subsidiary
and the UAW prohibits layoffs, even as a result of a UAW strike elsewhere.
So while Saturn's 6,000 workers in Tennessee won't work what was to be an 
overtime schedule today, they will report to work Monday whether they
are building cars are not.

"The assembly line won't crank up again until the Lordstown strike ends,
official said."
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.alien.visitors,talk.politics.guns
From: bjcg2405@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (gn0tt)
Subject: Re: Pat Buchannan Convention Speech
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:03:55 GMT

hcollings@vax1.umkc.edu writes:

>In reference to Mr. Pat Buchannan's (sp?) speech at the National Republican
>convention, though I did not see the complete speech there was a blurb on CNN
>where he stated that "we have finally gotten rid of the left wingers in Russia
>and now it is time to do the same here"  (not exact quote).  Anyone know what
>this means or the method he might employ to accomplish this?  Is this the new
>"World Order"?  Where will all the us leftists go?  Can we seek asylumn (sp?)
>somewhere, say Tahiti or some other southsea island?

I believe summary execution is the plan.  Got a problem with that?
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From: lstowell@pyrnova.mis.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,rec.autos
Subject: Re: UAW uses strike to lash out at Saturns!
Date: 28 Aug 92 19:30:59 GMT
Reply-To: lstowell@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Lon Stowell)
Distribution: na
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp., Mountain View, CA
Originator: daemon@sword.eng.pyramid.com

In article <1992Aug28.035657.4524@cs.wayne.edu> jdc@isis.cs.wayne.edu (Jon Cardwell) writes:
>[I *really* do hope I stepped on toes here! :-)]
>
>The solutions may be easier said than done:
>
>1) Give the UAW people what they want: More money and "job security".
>(IE; grub-steaks)
>
>2) Move the stamping operation(s) into each of the respective
>plants that use the parts (hmmm..., then what next will they target?!).
>
    It wouldn't surprise me....and then just now many of those same
    UAW crybabies would you expect to see on the evening news
    complaining that yet MORE American jobs just got exported???

    And worse yet, they wouldn't even see the connection!!!


From: lea00@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Larry Akers)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:57:30 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: INSLAW (Very strange case)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy

In alt.conspiracy, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes:

    In article <1t7m-bn.feustel@netcom.com> feustel@netcom.com (David Feustel) writes:
    
    >>case was that when the case was appealed to the SC by the government
    >>after its latest loss, the SC said the case had been pursued *through
    >>the wrong court system* and the whole thing presumably has to start
    >>again all over at the bottom rung of the legal system.

    >But it had gone through the wrong court system.  Do you really want
    >bankruptcy courts making judgments on fraud and tort claims
    >without Congressional authorization?  
    -- 
                 ......................................................
                 ted frank | thf2@midway.uchicago.edu | std disclaimers
                 the university of chicago law skool, chicago, illinois
                 you can't throw me to the lions -- i'm charlton hesto


Not really I guess but it sure would be nice if they would have told
them this before it had gone so far.  And I wonder if they would have
ever said anything had they won the case...
  It's like a case I saw on Peoples Court, this guy watched his ex-wife
present her case to the Judge.  She had all of her evidence together
and she looked like the sure winner.  All the time her husband just sat
there smiling and every now and then he would openly laugh but never 
saying anything.  After she had presented her well documented case the
Judge asked if he had anything to say, The husband responded that Judge
Wapner and his court had no jurisdiction in this case since it had already
been decided in a higher level court.  I thought, what a smug bast*rd
to knowingly waste everyones time.  He could have saved lots of time 
and money by speaking up earlier.  Does this give you an indication of 
the wy I view the Governments response in this case.  But hey it wasn;t
ay I view the Governments response in this case.  But hey it wasn't 
their money that was being wasted it was ours.  And it was well spent
since it bought them so much more time right...  :>)

LA...  LA...  LA...  LA...  LA...  LA...  Later,,,  Larry Akers...

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From: qralston@cislabs.pitt.edu (James Ralston Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,pa.general,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: rely on science not on purposeful environmental hysteria
Date: 31 Aug 92 23:53:09 GMT
Reply-To: qralston@cislabs.pitt.edu
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Organization: University of Pittsburgh [CIS]


	Even though I'm aware the Mr. Bacon has the right to say what
he pleases, few things would give me greater pleasure than to stuff a
sock in his mouth.  His short, heavily biased, intermittent emissions
of mostly to not complete bullshit have long since worn thin.

-- 
James Ralston Crawford \ Advanced Graphics Lab                     The
qralston@cislabs.pitt.edu \ qralston@pittvms.bitnet                 Phantom
"Pitiful creature of darkness \ What kind of life have you known"  - of the
"God gave me courage to show you \ You are not alone"                 Opera
From: bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou ~{E7OHIz~})
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Masons
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:55:03 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Aug27.023312.7036@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU> dabbott@augean.eleceng.adelaide.edu.AU (Derek Abbott) writes:
>In article <1715@grivel.une.edu.au> cmunday@neumann.une.edu.au (Craig Munday) writes:
>>Could anyone tell me about the Freemasons?  It seems like a massive
>>orginisation, yet it is almost never spoken about.  I have heard that
>>Jack the Ripper was actualy a Mason(this is doubtful though).
>>
>>Any information would be appriceated....
>>
>>(Please do NOT reply through e-mail)
>
>Read Stephen Knight's book "The Brotherhood."

Here's are some books, don't ask me where to get them, I have no idea...
Maybe "American Opinion" bookstores...?

Revolution And Freemasonry, by Bernard Fay.
A Bridge to Light, by Rex R. Hutchens
An Encyclopaedia of Freemasonry, by Albert G. Mackey
Behind the Lodge Door, by Paul A. Fisher
Conspiracy Against God and Man, by Rev. Clarence Kelly
The Deadly Deception, by Jim Shaw
Freemasonry Exposed, by Capt. William Morgan
Introduction to Freemasonry, by Carl H. Claudy
The Lost Keys of Freemasonry, by Manly P. Hall
The Meaning of Masonry, by W.L. Wilmshurst
Morals and Dogma, by Albert Pike
The Royal Masonic Cyclopaedia, by Kenneth Mackenzie
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: A Real-Life conspiracy...
Keywords: conspiracy, Fabrikant, Concordia, science
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:08:16 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <cburke.715365402@yorku.ca> cburke@nexus.yorku.ca (Carolyn Burke) writes:
>Read the releases of Dr. Fabrikant as posted by Dov Bai during the past
>week.  The Doctor has documented, fictionally or not, the evidenciary
>accounting of unversity and research fraud that lead him to last weeks
>multi-murders.  Fascinating reading!

It's also a good lesson in how the paranoid mind works.



-- 
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From: techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,phl.misc,pa.general,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Rely on science not on purposeful environmental hysteria
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:16:45 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

part 3 of 4 parts Carbon dioxide Emissions
   Environmentalists Claim: Rising levels of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere 
arecreating a "greenhouse effect" which is causing global warnming. 
Thiscondition results from man's increased use of fossil fuels(coal,gas,and 
oil), a use which must be curtailed.
   Scientists respond: Yes, there is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere we 
breathe. And yes, itscontributes to what can be termend a "greenhouse 
effect". But no, it has not caused the earth to warm (see above). More carbon 
dioxide in the air is not a problem. Rather,it has been shown by a team of 
Arizona Scientists led by Dr. Sherwood Idsoto be tremondously beneficial. 
Afte a five year test, these agricultural scientists demonstrated that 
controlled increases in carbon dioxide have nearly tripled the growth of 
experimental orange trees, increased their fruit production tenfold, and 
vastly increased their water use efficiency compared to their counterparts 
grown side-by-side in ambient air. Even a great deal more carbon dioxide in 
the air we breathe would have no adverse effect on humans.
Sources:1) Sherwood B Idso, PhD, Carbon Dioxide and global change, IBR Press 
Tempe, Arizona 1989
2) Access to Energy newsletter, Petr Beckman, PhD Boulder Colorado

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techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon)
The Cellar BBS - (215) 654-9184
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From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.bush,alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: LIBERAL INTOLERANCE
Date: 29 Aug 92 23:15:05 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign

In article <1992Aug29.164406.11510@ncsu.edu> dsh@odin.ece.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
>> 
>> Republicans HAVE to loose this election
>> for two reasons: we need to rebuild the country, they(republicans) need to
>> rebuild the republican party. 
>
>Democrats HAVE to loose this election for two reasons: we need to rebuild
>the country, and the Democrats need to rebuild their party. 

Wow, what an incredibly clever response!  How long did it take you to think
of it?
-- 
   And thither came Conan, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, to tread the jeweled 
   thrones of the Earth beneath his sandaled feet.  --THE NEMEDIAN CHRONICLES 
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu             _V_a_l_h_a_l_l_a BBS, 217-352-3682, WWIV4.21, 14.4k
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
From: budnick@cc.utah.edu
Subject: Re: Masons
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:01:33 MDT

In article <1992Aug27.131724.2047@wkuvx1.bitnet>, kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos) writes:
> In article <1715@grivel.une.edu.au>, cmunday@neumann.une.edu.au (Craig Munday) writes:
>> Could anyone tell me about the Freemasons?  It seems like a massive
>> orginisation, yet it is almost never spoken about.  
> 
> I'll tell you what I know about it, and then follow into some
> speculations I've encountered.
> 
> It is a rather large group, with various secret oaths and signals
> (some of which have brought religious condemnation down upon them,
> especially where some oaths say that they will allow their throat to
> se slit from ear to ear if they reveal any secrets of Masonry).  Such

Interesting.  Many of the Mormon Church's secret temple rituals are 
rumored to be adopted from the Mason's.  Joseph Smith and Brigham Young
(reportedly) were Masons.  Brigham Young instituted the Danites (I think
that's what they were called), who had the authority and duty to put a 
"smile from ear to ear" (cutting the throat from ear to ear) on people 
who spoke badly of the church.  That was a long time ago...

> [.......lots deleted..........]
> 
> Hope this helps.  I'm sure someone can fill in any holes I left.
> -- 
> Mark Kinney [KINNEMA@WKUVX1.(BITNET)(WKU.EDU)] | Don't just eat a hamburger,
> PhoneNet: (502)745-4246	  (Bowling Green, KY)  | eat the HELL out of it!
> It's a custom community of personalized guns.  | No other possibility.
> Quote of the week: "I'm a drummer. I know nothing about music."
> 			-- Overheard at the Fine Arts Center, WKU
From: ph111-bx@violet.berkeley.edu (;;;;7202)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: TELEVISION: The Ultimate Weapon of Mass Enslavement
Date: 29 Aug 1992 05:34:30 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.berkeley.edu
Keywords: television, mass hypnosis, mass hysteria, mass enslavement

I think you watch too much TV.
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From: techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy,alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,phl.misc,pa.general
Subject: rely on science.
Date: 23 Aug 92 21:41:51 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

Rely on science part 2 of 4 parts Ozone depeletion
  ENVIRONMENTALISTS CLAIM: The ozone layer inthe upper atmosphere shield the 
earth from harmful ultraviolet rays that can cause skin cancer.Health 
threating holes inthe ozone layer are being crated by chemicals released by 
unaring humans.
SCIENTISTS RESPOND: Ozone is only one part of the natural atmospheric 
shield.Plentiful,normal oxygen molecules shield the earth from the most 
dangerous shortwave ultraviolet radiation. Inthe process,ozone is created 
(i.e. ozone is the RESULT of the protective process). Ozone then shields 
against the less dangerous middle range UV radiation Numerous naturally 
occuring physical (like volcanoes) and chemical factors cause variations in 
the ozone layer. For example,depletions of ozone are common at the south pole 
where less sunlight (for example during the winter) hits the earth. Thre is 
no evidence that human activity has had any effect onthe amount of ozone 
intheupper atmosphere. In fact, UV radiation impacting the earth's surface in 
the midlatitudes has declined during this century.
sources
1) Dr. Dixy Lee Ray, Trashing the planet, Regnery Gateway, Washington D.C. 
1990.
2) National Oceanic and atmospheric Adminstration scientist Shaw liu

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techie@cellar.org (William A Bacon)
The Cellar BBS - (215) 654-9184
From: dxc4@po.CWRU.Edu (David Condon)
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy
Subject: Re: Malcolm X and the KKK
Date: 4 Sep 1992 14:56:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: dxc4@po.CWRU.Edu (David Condon)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, rburns@key.COM (Randy Burns) says:

>
>The other day I was browsing in a bookstore and noticed a book
>on the FBI file of Malcolm X to which Spike Lee wrote an introduction.
>
>In the book, there was a several small snips referring to a meeting between
>representatives of the Nation of Islam and the KKK in which Malcolm X 
>represented the NOI. Although NOI didn't get all they wanted from these
>meetings, apparently, they _did_ get the KKK to agree to cease interfering in
>NOI organizing activities in the South(the NOI had hoped for a bit more
>active support around the idea that American blacks should have their own
>separate sovereign nation and wanted help obtaining land to facilitate this).
>Now, what I also think is significant is that within certain constraints,
>the KKK got the FBI to leave their organization along and even got the FBI
>to use the KKK for certain kinds of operations. I wonder the extent to 
>which the NOI developed a similar mutually beneficial relationship with the
>FBI. NOTE: Malcolm X later said he was "ashamed" to have participated in
>negotiations with the KKK.
>
Possibly interesting parallel: In James Ridgeway's book _Blood in the
face_, he reports that Aryan Nations honcho Tom Metzger claimed to
have had some amicable discussions with Rev. Louis Farrakhan about their
common interests in racial separatism, etc. -- Metzger said that this
was in the late 1970s ...
-- 
          "In universities, it is forbidden to teach nonsense. 
          But the _history_ of nonsense -- that's scholarship!"

                                            -- Saul Lieberman
Newsgroups: alt.conspiracy.jfk
From: schuck@fraser.sfu.ca (Bruce Jonathan Schuck)
Subject: Re: Teen Agent, Can you Hear Me? Teen Agent, Can You See Me? (was: Clay Shaw is Clay Bertrand, Oswald *was* a Teen Agent
Reply-To: Bruce_Schuck@sfu.ca
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 16:51:48 GMT



Bruce Schuck (me) >> & >>>>

>>>>Sure Mitchell. It happens all the time. The medical records of the
>>>>Marine Corps are littered with Marines who caught VD 'in the line of
>>>>duty'. [Really heavy sarcasm]

I'm still waiting for some proof that 'regular' Marines are allowed to
claim they 'caught VD in the line of duty'.

Since you now claim to have a close personal relative who flew
spyplanes, maybe you have a close personal relative who caught VD in
the "line of duty' too? [Snicker]