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From: pfeiffer@nmsu.edu (Joe Pfeiffer)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: OMNI NECRONOMICON
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:46:26 GMT
	<1992Oct14.013215.12340@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>
Organization: NMSU Computer Science

In article <1992Oct14.013215.12340@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu () writes:

   In article <1992Oct13.154413.23195@julian.uwo.ca> jv@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Jeffrey Verhagen) writes:

   Its the same one. Published by the same people (SIMON)
   on a more depressing note, several film students on a nearby campus are 
   making a tv miniseries/pilot episode called necronomicon.

   The premise is a combination of ghostbusters and beverly hills 90120 that
   takes place at Miskatonic University at Arkham. This should bring the
   cthulhu mythos to an alltime low (I've read script exerpts; its as bad as
   it sounds)

   Luckily it borrows most from the el-Fako avon necronomicon, rather than HPL's
   mythos, presumably due to copyright laws 8)

This sounds like it could be hilarious!

-Joe.
From: garcia@husc10.harvard.edu (Javier Garcia-Torres)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: heavy metal
Date: 13 Oct 92 22:29:22 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center


	And if you spell Nyarlathotep backwards, it's Petohtalrayn.


Knock on wood.
From: d9bertil@dtek.chalmers.se (Bertil Jonell)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Cthulhu Sightings (was Re: Stephen King
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:26:35 GMT
Organization: Chalmers Tekniska Lekskola, G|teborg, G|taland

In article <1992Oct13.131505.3124@wkuvx1.bitnet> kinnema@wkuvx1.bitnet (Mark Kinney, Attorney at Chaos) writes:
>2) In an old issue (1979 I think) of _National Lampoon_ featuring a
>sneak preview of _Heavy Metal_.  One of the stories has a panel where
>someone is chanting "ULUHTC!" (Read it backwards).

  That must have been from Richard Corbens 'DEN 1'.

  [Corben is a comic artist (ok, comics like in Enki Bilal and the Hernandezes,
not comics like in Peanuts or X-men:) and several of his horror stories have
signs of HPL influence.]

>Mark Kinney [KINNEMA@WKUVX1.(BITNET)(WKU.EDU)] | Give me Slack OR KILL ME!

-bertil-
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From: fred_s@earwax.pei.com (Fred Scott)
Subject: Re: The New Twilight zone
Organization: Nerds On Parade
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 23:47:51 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.230550.24317@ichips.intel.com> smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~) writes:
>
>Did anyone else ever get a chance to see the episode with the mythos in it,
>about the grandmother, who was a spawn?

So what happened?  Did she get taken by a sbishop?

Fred
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From: torben@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Random Tox)
Subject: Re: misc
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:50:10 GMT

In article <1992Oct16.154242.9121@julian.uwo.ca> jv@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Jeffrey Verhagen) writes:
>Hi,
> i have some questions:
>
>   - did you know that H.P. Lovecraft was definitly racist (i read
>     it in two biographies about him....)?
>
>Unenlightened would probably be a better word. Lovecraft was not a
>very outgoing person (to say the least), and had trouble trusting
>and dealing with people of his own race - let alone those of another.
>He also had a penchant for formulating and propagating opinions in
>his letters, some of these being about things he knew nothing about.
>I don't excuse his ethnocentrism; but his stories aren't a platform
>for these opinions anyway, so I have no problems with enjoying them
>and respecting the imagination of the person behind them.

	He called his cat "Niggerman". He was indeed a racist, but I think
we can forgive him for it more or less, as he lived in the 20's and 30's
and was a recluse who learned from books with almost no social interaction.



-- 
(C) 1992 by Random Tox and The Durex Blender Corporation
All Rights Available at the Door, No Reservations.

	"If this is the place for you, then herd."
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From: wardw@CS.ColoState.EDU (william bradley ward)
Subject: Re: What's the deal?
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:03:52 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University

In article <1992Oct9.210952.15538@javelin.sim.es.com> KHATCH@130.187.170.178 (kh) writes:
>
>    What's the deal with these paperback novels that have Lovecraft's name on 
>them but on closer inspection are written by August Derleth?


I thought that August Derleth was just the person who owns the rights to 
Lovecrafts stuff.  I've got most of the paparbacks that you are refering to
and don't know that any of the stories are actually written or re-written
by this person.  Anyone know any differently?

Brad
From: blchapma@eos.ncsu.edu (BEKKI LYN)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Necrnomicon
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:50:52 GMT
Reply-To: blchapma@eos.ncsu.edu (BEKKI LYN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: blchapma@c00009-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu


In article <1992Oct14.213247.23730@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Rosaleen Dhu) writes:
|> oops! misspelt that. Anyways, I have a paperback copy of the Necronomicon.
|> Is this the thing that you guys always say is a fake? I mean, it looks like
|> crap to me--I read it as fiction. It was given to me by a then-boyfriend
|> when he found out I was turning Wiccan--the stupidjerk didn't bother to
|> find out the difference between Wicca and the stuff Lovecraft was into. I
|> would've thrown it back in his face, but I didn't want to give him the
|> satisfaction. 

I also have this book.  When I bought it (yes, I bought it), I was
browsing around the occult section of the bookstore.  (The bookstores
actually used the word "occult" way back when -- now it's all
called New Age).  I was trying to find out what kind of "strange and
unusual" books I might find other than a whole book dedicated to
Omar's Capricorn horoscopes or some such. 

I bought it out of curiosity really.  But then, I couldn't figure
out who wrote the darn thing, except for some dude editor Simon.
Alas, it was pretty neat though.  The correspondance tables between
Lovecraft, Sumerian, and Crowley was also interesting.

Gee, now how the Sumerians knew about Crowley back then I can't 
imagine.

I figured it was something that should have really been filed in
the Science Fiction section although I would sometimes tell unwary
friends that I had a copy of the Necronomicon.  Oh how astonished
they were to hear that I was also unafraid to show it to them.
I suppose they figured I was lying (heh heh).  Great joke.

After I discovered the Pagan religions, I grew very suspicious that
a Pagan had put it out for some reason.  We love to make up our own
rituals and all that after all.  There was something in the
acknowledgements or introduction or something that led me to
believe this.

I wasn't surprised to read about Omni's ad for another Necronomicon.
I expect more will be popping up periodically.

Oh well, back to more wasting of time....
-- 

Bekki Lyn

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 But I'm still chasing time through increasing disillusion
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From: jv@irus.rri.uwo.ca (Jeffrey Verhagen)
Subject: FROM BEYOND
Organization: none
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:44:13 GMT

I just saw a video adaptation of Lovecraft's story 
From Beyond, apparently made by the same folks that 
made Re-Animator. Both shows have a wonderful black
humour undercurrent which makes them fun to watch, 
and which - I believe - approximates the spirit in 
which Lovecraft wrote many of his stories.

It was slightly gorier than Re-Animator, more risque
(check out the dominatrix outfit!), and tied up the 
plot more effectively. I should mention that - to its
credit - Re-Animator has some very ingenious scenes 
as well (like the scene with the cat in the basement)
They both firmly fall into the "Good/Fun Viewing" 
Category....

-------

On the subject of the Necronomicon: a while back
(about 8 yrs ago) Omni magazine was offering a book 
for approx. $100.00 It was leather bound and contained 
real gold leaf lettering on its cover. The cover 
contained three symbols similiar to the one found on 
the Avon Necronomicon Paperback. The ad also contained
statements from people who tried various formulae 
contained on various pages in the book, attesting to 
the success of the techniques contained therein.

I'm just wondering if anyone else has heard of this
particular Necronomicon, and knows anything more about
it.

Jeff...
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From: jgoodric@dante.nmsu.edu (GOODRICH)
Subject: Re: Stephen King (was Re: What's the deal?)
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM
	Unfortunately, King has some trouble with specific 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:49:57 GMT

	The Laughing Priest!

"Laugh-a while you can, monkey-boy!"  -Lord John Whorfin
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From: DLODG00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Corwin, Prince of Amber)
Subject: Re: Ia!
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 20:07:48 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.233106.4741@news.mentorg.com>
bcannard@hppcb36.mentorg.com (Bob Cannard @ PCB x5565) writes:
<stuff deleted...>
>
>Okay, but the postage is gonna cost.
>Do you want normal delivery (should arrive within a few years),
>or Shantak Express?
>--
>bob_cannard@mentorg.com            The fun guy from Yuggoth
 
As Shantak Express is an option, that is naturally my choice.
Looking forward to my new toys,
- Corwin
 
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From: sbradley@scic.intel.com (Seth Bradley)
Subject: Re: H.P. Lovecraft -- 60s band
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 23:48:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.172915.25673@cs.chalmers.se> andrew@cs.chalmers.se (Andrew Moran) writes:
>Anyone out heard of the sixties band called "H.P. Lovecraft"?  They have
>lots of songs based on the mythos.  I know of two albums, called "Sailing on
>the White Ship" and "H.P. Lovecraft II" containing songs like "Sailing on
>the White Ship", "The Keeper of the Keys", and "The Mountains of Madness".
>Great stuff; really creepy.

I have a copy of Lovecraft II, have never seen a copy of "Sailing on the
White Ship".  The drummer of H.P. Lovecraft later went on to form a
(one album) band called Lovecraft.  The music was completely unlike
HPL, pretty much bland pap.  For some reason, the music I'll always
associate with HPL's works was by an obscure mid-seventies band called
Captain Beyond.  No blatant associations with the mythos, but the lyrics
and music seem to remind me of his writings.

Speaking of Lovecraftian movies (and thanks for the new leads, all :-) )
I recently saw in a rental place a poster for a film called "Cthulhu
Mansion".  I didn't get around to renting it before the place went under.
Anyone seen it?  Is it worth tracking down?
-- 
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Internet: sbradley@scic.intel.com   UUCP: uunet!scic.intel.com!sbradley
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From: DLODG00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Corwin)
Subject: Re: Ia!
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 06:24:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.224259.12051@news.yale.edu>
Jonathan_B_Bellack@YCCATSMTP.YCC.Yale.edu (Jonathan Bellack) writes:
 
>In article <1687C190D.DLODG00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, DLODG00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Corwin) writes:
>>
>> In article <1992Oct09.195339.687@news.mentorg.com>
>> bcannard@hppcb36.mentorg.com (Bob Cannard @ PCB x5565) writes:
>>
>> >
>> >I have the following items up for sale:
>> >
>> <descriptions deleted for brevity's sake>
>> >
>> >All offers considered, please reply soon because the white ship's
>> >waiting to go.
>> >--
>> >bob_cannard@mentorg.com            The fun guy from Yuggoth
>>
>> I'll take them all if you can have them shipped to my cabin on the
>> Plateau of Leng, beyond the Mountains of Madness.
>>
>> - Corwin
>>
>
>Is that UPS or Air Mail? 8)
>
>
>                   --JonB
>
>Ph-nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.  Or so I'm told.
 
UPS.
 
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From: landon@Apple.COM (Landon Dyer)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: Cthulhu Sightings
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:27:22 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <Bw393p.AJv@ns1.nodak.edu>, dhenry@plains.NoDak.edu (David Henry) writes:
> >2) In an old issue (1979 I think) of _National Lampoon_ featuring a
> >sneak preview of _Heavy Metal_.  One of the stories has a panel where
> >someone is chanting "ULUHTC!" (Read it backwards).
> 
> There is also a N.Lampoon which has a homecoming week schedule ...

Phil Foglio's "What's New?" cartoon strip, which appeared in the
early 80's in _The Dragon_ magazine, once featured a mock review
of several mini role-playing games.  You know, the games in which
you start evolving from primordial ooze and wind up emperor of a
galactic empire in twenty minutes or so.

	".. but our favorite has got to be _Escape From Cthulhu_.
	 To play, you you simply open the box, read aloud the
	 enclosed incantation ..."

[The next frame of the cartoon is a full-page color drawing of
 (presumably) Chulthu, rising up over the player with a full
 array of reaching tentacles, talons and fangs.  Even with no
 eyes, he looks pissed.  Or maybe just hungry.]

	"... and escape!"

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From: leifmk@Lise.Unit.NO (Leif Magnar Kj|nn|y)
Subject: Re: H.P. Lovecraft -- 60s band
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 16:49:12 GMT

In article <Bw6sBr.EHy@rice.edu>, pound@ruf.rice.edu (Christopher Brian Pound) writes:
 > If you're building a list of Lovecraftian references in music ...
 > 
 > H.P. Lovecraft -- 60's band [as you pointed out]
 > Blind Idiot God -- Would they count as a "Thrash Power Trio"? :)
 > Rudimentary Peni -- had a concept album devoted to Lovecraft
 > Metallica -- "The Call of Ktulu" [long instrumentral song you've probably heard]
 > 
 > That's all I can think of ...
 > 
 > -- 
 > Christopher Pound	+	I am human by my hands and my feet, my guts,
 > Anthro Grad Student	+	my meat heart, my stomach whose knots fasten
 > pound@ruf.rice.edu	+	me to the rot of life.	   -- Antonin Artaud

Metallica also did "The Thing That Should Not Be"--track # 3 on Master of Puppets.
A Mythos song for sure--even paraphrasing the Famous Couplet.

Leif Kj|nn|y
leifmk@lise.unit.no
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From: nancy@genie.slhs.udel.edu (Nancy Lebovitz)
Subject: Re: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Organization: UDel, School of Life & Health Sciences
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:43:24 GMT

In article <Oct.13.17.03.53.1992.10543@gandalf.rutgers.edu> cje@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Cthulhu's Jersey Epopt) writes:
>>> First off, how in Chthulu do you pronounce that word?
>
>>I'm not sure, but I prefer to pronounce the 'C' and the 'th' at the very same
>>time. 
>
>That would give you "K'thoo-loo", whereas the corrupt pronunciation given by
>HPL (in such places as "The Mound" and "Medusa's Coil") is "Tulu", not "Thulu".
>And it's supposed to sound gutteral.
>
>Try "K'too-loo".  

I've heard that you should pronounce it way in the back of your throat to
give it a bit of a non-human gurgling sound. I find that if I pronounce
it as far back as I can, I don't get an actual final "oo", but something
unspellable that sounds very odd. [Insert obligatory joke about
being carried off by something eldritc.....]


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From: macgyver@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (MacGyver)
Subject: Re: Recommendations...
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:32:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.223359.25377@pellns.alleg.edu> twiddyd@carn15.alleg.edu (David Twiddy) writes:
>	Finally, I am overjoyed to finally see alt.horror.cthulhu., in  
>time for All Hallows, no less.  Now if we could just get a CoC MUD-type  
>thing going...

You'd have to run away a lot in that mud. "You see Cthulhu, you die." :)
From: vchang@cory.Berkeley.EDU (V. Chang)
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: The New Twilight zone
Date: 13 Oct 1992 09:26:38 GMT
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cory.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct12.230550.24317@ichips.intel.com> smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~) writes:
>
>Did anyone else ever get a chance to see the episode with the mythos in it, about
>the grandmother, who was a spawn?
>Stephen


sorry I didn't see that one, but didja see the Night Gallery episode where
they did Lovecraft's short story "Pickman's Model" (is that the right 
title?). It's the story about the strange artist whose disturbing paintings
were awfully realistic.
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From: bellaire@cs.tulane.edu (TV's Steve)
Subject: Re: OMNI NECRONOMICON
Organization: Gizmonic Institute
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:41:13 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-22850]: venus


In article <1992Oct14.013215.12340@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, locklin@titan.ucc.umass.edu () writes:
> >On the subject of the Necronomicon: a while back
> >(about 8 yrs ago) Omni magazine was offering a book 
> >for approx. $100.00 It was leather bound and contained 
> >real gold leaf lettering on its cover. The cover 
> >contained three symbols similiar to the one found on 
> >the Avon Necronomicon Paperback. The ad also contained
{stuff deleted}
> 
> Its the same one. Published by the same people (SIMON)
> 
> yrs under the elder sign...
> -Scott
> 
> 

Well, I saw this book in the special collections of Boston U in late 1983.  It 
was leather bound with gold on the cover.  The introduction was by Fritz Lieber
if I recall correctly, and therest of the book was in some (faux?) arabic 
script.  The intro had the usual stuff about the translators diappearing from 
locked rooms or imploding in public.  I have seen a paperback Necromicon and 
it was nothing like this book.  I knew to look for it after seeing the ad in 
Omni, so I assume it was the same one.  The librarian said it was in the 
special collection because of the price, but she could have been brainwashed.

-- 
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				--Tom Waits    |   bellaire@cs.tulane.edu
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From: winston@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: Anyone remember...
Organization: SSRL, Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Lab
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:39:10 -0800

You guys have been talking about "Imprisoned with the Pharaohs," the story
Lovecraft ghosted for Harry Houdini.  

In the Scholastic Book Services Lovecraft anthology, "The Shadow Over
Innsmouth and Other Stories of Horror," the introduction to the story
reads as follows:

         "Would you believe that this ghostly tale was really
         ghost-written?  The great magician Harry Houdini dreamed
         up the plot and told it to the owner of Weird Tales, a
         magazine that specialized in stories of the uncanny. 
         But telling a plot and turning it into a story are two
         different things, so Howard Lovecraft was hired to
         fashion Houdini's idea into fiction.  It took him only a
         month to write the story (which was published under
         Houdini's name), and he seems to have enjoyed doing it. 
         He wrote in a letter to a friend:

              "I went the limit in descriptive realism in
              the first part.  Then, when I buckled down to
              the under-the-pyramid stuff, I let myself
              loose and coughed up some of the most
              nameless, slithering, unmentionable HORROR
              that ever stalked cloven-hooved through the
              abysses of elder night.""

I think that says it all.

--Alan

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From: rtsumn01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Necrnomicon
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:32:18 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Oct15.140322.19391@pellns.alleg.edu>, twiddyd@quig12.alleg.edu (David Twiddy) writes:
> 	
> 	In the HPL biography there's a cool story concerning the Nec.  One  
> of Lovecraft's friend entered this really small, dusty used book store in  
> NYC that was run by an old crone.  For a joke, he asked "Do you have a  
> copy of the Necronomicon?"  "Why, yes," she croaked,"right here!"  It  
> turns out that she had heard him wrong.  Sorta anticlimatic.  It would  
> have been better if she had said "I had it, but I sold it to a nice man  
> from the Church of the Starry Twilight in Boston two months ago!"

Oh David,

Thou hast omitted a most crucial piece of information, which you must share
with us or suffer the undying wrath of the Old Ones. Prithee, what book was it
in truth that the old woman produced?

Clearly, she was in truth a servant of the unwholesome beasts, shapeshifted
into human form, that she might amuse herself with mortal toys.

--Semhaza
From: spice@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.horror.cthulhu
Subject: Re: What's the deal?
Date: 11 Oct 92 16:53:24 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

Those of you who like Lovecraftian type stories might want to read
the book Necrom, by Mick Farren.

                           Scott Corley

spice@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu

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From: DLODG00@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU (Corwin, Prince of Amber)
Subject: Re: Campus Crusade for Cthulhu
Organization: Rice University  
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 00:05:25 GMT

In article <yzpp5aj@lynx.unm.edu>
rkelly@pioneer.unm.edu (Bob Kelly) writes:
 
<various slogans deleted>
>        And the best I have seen:
>        A picture of Cthulhu rising over the Crucifixion (JC's eyes
>        bugging out) scene, saying:
>                "I just love hors d'euvres!"
 
Could anyone tell me where I could get a copy of this?  Perhaps even a
gif?
 
Yours till Cthulhu awakes,
- Corwin
 
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