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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: IRIS login problem (HELP)
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:51:33 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Oct8.155813.56166@qut.edu.au> chan@qut.edu.au writes:


| 	We are installing an IRIS with IRIX 4.0.5 and ran into some problem
| and the local distributor does not seem to be able to help.
| 	The problem is that when we set the users to use C shell, the system
| is ok with the wsh and the lot. But when we change the shell to ksh or sh
| when a user logs in, he only sees the toolchest without the icon of console.
| Worse he cannot start a new shell with the shell tool. We have to use ksh
| because the system is using NIS with the server being on another type of
| system (HPUX 8.07). 

Hmm.  Perhaps DISPLAY isn't being set correct for the other shells?
You might want to check /usr/adm/SYSLOG and/or /usr/lib/X11/xdm-errors.

| 	Problem two, when we tried to log on from the network, with csh and
| sh it works fine. But with ksh, the system works fine if the user had its
| directory local to the IRIS. But when the directory is on NFS, the /etc/profile
| started but stoped right before the ~/.profile. I am not sure if the login is
| reading the .profile and hang or it is actually not able to get the NFS
| direcotory.

This is the ksh locking of the history file (since a single history
file is shared for all current sessions by the same user).  Locking
is problematical at best over NFS.  There is a ksh environment
variable to specify where the history file goes, so you can override
this.

| 	Problem three, any body know how to stop the concole window start up
| in icon mode. I could not find any description in all my manuals.

You can change /usr/sbin/startconsole, or better yet, specify the
xwsh or xterm console window directly in your ~/.xsession file (start
by copying /usr/lib/X11/xdm/Xsession if you don't have one, and make
the fairly obvious changes.
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Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
From: peterb@perturb.esd.sgi.com (Peter Birch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Stereo glasses connector on Indigo
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:05:00 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


In article <1992Oct8.034638.12148@imax.imax.com>, dave@imax.imax.com writes:
> Is the "stereo glasses" connector on the back of an Indigo (Elan graphics)
> documented anywhere?  I haven't found anything so far.

The pinout for the stereo connector on the back of the XS/Elan board is:

                         --------
                        /        \         1: 9V
                       /    3     \        2: GND
                      |            |       3: left active
                       \  2 [] 1  /          
                        \        /           
                         --------                   
                    Female (board side)                    
                                            

When the left active pin is asserted, then the left eye (top half of the screen)
is being displayed.

peter

......Peter Birch.....peterb@perturb.esd.sgi.com.....MTS, Graphics Hardware.....
.......Silicon Graphics, Inc.....Mountain View, CA 94039.....(415)390-1512......
From: lombardo@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: changing size of a gl Motif widget
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:45:47 GMT
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

Hi,
  How does one change the size of a glMDraw widget after
the widget has been created.  I have tried to set the XtNwidth
and XtNheight values to no avail.  According to the GlxMDraw man
page, XtNwidth and XtNheight should be settable using XtSetValues.

  Anybody?


Thanks in advance,
Chuck

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From: fredv@abba.acs.uci.edu (Fred Velijanian)
Subject: problem with dvhtool and sash
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 14 Oct 92 23:02:46 GMT

Using: Indigo R4000, Irix 4.0.5F

Recently I duplicated a system disk using dump/restore and booted
from this new disk. The only problem was that sash was not in the 
volume header, so I used CDROM's sash for booting. Then using
"dvhtool" I copied the /stand/sash to the header. (using the 
"vd" command and the "c /stand sash".)

However booting from the sash on disk now gives me a "execute format
error". What am I doing wrong?

Thanks

Fred Velijanian
University of California, Irvine
fredv@uci.edu
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From: creon@nas.nasa.gov (M. Creon Levit)
Subject: C++ interpreters
Organization: Applied Research Office, NASA Ames Research Center
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:42:10
Reply-To: creon@nas.nasa.gov
Distribution: comp.sys.sgi


The Objectcenter product (forerly called Sabre C++) is a c++
interpreter/debugger/incremental compiler that is a really big hit amongst
its users on Suns.  The developers of this product, (Centerline Software in
Cambridge) are not planning an SGI port anytime soon.

I have a few questions/requests.

1. If you want and would buy an SGI version of this product, contact
Cenerline Software at (617)-498-3000

2. Do you know of any equivalent products?  (I will summarize to the net).

3. Will CDV ever have a full-blown C++ interpreter and incremental
compiler? 

Thanks,

Creon Levit

Mail Stop T045-1
NASA Ames Research Center
Moffett Field, California 94035-1000
USA

(415)-604-4403      (phone)
(415)-604-3957      (FAX)
creon@nas.nasa.gov  (Internet)
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Creon Levit

Mail Stop T045-1
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Moffett Field, California 94035-1000
USA

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From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Indigo/r4k -- better machine, crummier monitor
Date: 8 Oct 92 01:04:01 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <jam.718461246@jeol> jam@jeol.com (John Malcolmson) writes:

| We just got two new r4k indigos with 19'' monitors made by mitsubishi.
| The quality compared to the previous VGX/elan 19'' monitor seems to be very
| poor.  The convergence on both is poor and the focus is not much better.
| We would rate the overall quality of these monitors much worse!  Were these
| new monitors supposed to be better, or just cheaper?  Can we still get the
| previous monitors?  The 19'' monitor that was on the PI's was not so great,
| in fuzziness they seem about equal to these new mitsubishi's however the
| contrast of the new monitors is better.  Any comments? 

The Mitsubishi monitors I've seen were all pretty clean.  The 16"
ones even use trinitron tubes (purchased from Sony, at least initially,
as I recall).  I don't remember what the story is on the 19" monitors,
but certainly the eval units I saw were all pretty crisp and clean
(certainly *far* better than the low quality Hitachi monitors we were
shipping for a while).

The thing to do if you aren't happy with it is to complain to the
support organization.  That is what drives changes in suppliers.
(It is also possible that a bad batch is being shipped; in general
we only spot check things like monitors, most of them are shipped
to customers as packed from the vendor's factory.)

Note: the above are my opinions, and manufacturing and support
might not agree with them ;)
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Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: andreas@awstar.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Andreas Wierse)
Subject: more than 32MB RAM in 4D/25 ?
Organization: Visualization Group Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:35:20 GMT

Hello,

we have a 4D/25 with 16MB (16 1MB modules) that we want to upgrade.
We have the money for 48 MB, so we would like to put that much in.
This would involve to put 12 4MB modules in instead of the 16 1MB modules.
Now we have heard that the 4D/25 only supports 32 MB maximum. Putting more
than 32 MB in would result in having the additional memory ignored. Is
that true?

Thanks in Advance

Andreas

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From: jamison@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Jamie Gulden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Bug in SGI's malloc?
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:21:13 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523


Hopefully my last message got canceled.

I don't mean to harp on this (well, maybe I do) but I do not
agree with the default sgi malloc implementation.  However, I
do agree with the guy who asks for a way to control it on a
per process basis.  If I am going to ship software to someone
I would like to be able to do something when I compile it so
that it behaves as I want it to.  It could either be a command
line option, a different library to link, or a function call
at the beginning of my program that sets up the proper behavior.

Even looking through the man pages gives no indication of the
default behavior compared to what most people expect.

MALLOC(3C): malloc returns a pointer to a block of at least size bytes
     suitably aligned for any use.
...  malloc, realloc and calloc return a NULL pointer if
     there is no available memory or if the arena has been
     detectably corrupted by storing outside the bounds of a block.
MALLOC(3X): malloc returns a pointer to a block of at least size bytes.
...  malloc, realloc and calloc return a NULL pointer if there is not
     enough available memory.

Does libmalloc act differently than the standard malloc in this area?

Thanks, J
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: SCANF CRASHES PI (was: HELP: PI hangs on callobj)
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:50:37 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

In <1992Oct15.002122.27855@leland.Stanford.EDU> ledwards@leland.Stanford.EDU (Laurence James Edwards) writes:

| In article <1992Oct12.074443.26150@leland.Stanford.EDU>, ledwards@leland.Stanford.EDU (Laurence James Edwards) writes:
| |> My PI 25TG (IRIX 4.0.1, 16MB mem, GR1.2) keeps crashing when
| |> I try to draw 16 display list objects with the following number of
| |> faces, vertices and edges:
| |> [.....]
| |> When I say "crash" I mean the cursor freezes, I get no response from
| |> keyboard or mouse buttons and I can't log in remotely. I get no panic
| |> messages or anything ... its just completely frozen.
| |> [......]
| 
| Turns out that the problem was caused by scanf. I was using %d when I should
| have been using %f. I thought this kind of thing wasn't supposed to happen on
| a workstation with memory protection!?

It shouldn't.  I don't remember any similar bugs being filed/fixed
either.  If the program is small, please post it here, and we will
see if the bug is fixed in the current releases, otherwise someone
will put it on the buglist (or just call the TAC, if you prefer).

I'm assuming the problem was reproducible, at least to some degree.
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because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: jam@jeol.com (John Malcolmson)
Subject: Re: Indigo/r4k -- better machine, crummier monitor
Organization: JEOL USA, Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:34:06 GMT

We just got two new r4k indigos with 19'' monitors made by mitsubishi.
The quality compared to the previous VGX/elan 19'' monitor seems to be very
poor.  The convergence on both is poor and the focus is not much better.
We would rate the overall quality of these monitors much worse!  Were these
new monitors supposed to be better, or just cheaper?  Can we still get the
previous monitors?  The 19'' monitor that was on the PI's was not so great,
in fuzziness they seem about equal to these new mitsubishi's however the
contrast of the new monitors is better.  Any comments? 
-- 

                John Malcolmson      
                (malcolmson@jeol.com)
                        
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: jmc@crow.eel.ufl.edu (Jim Callahan)
Subject: Indigo/R4k - Max Memory
Organization: University of Florida
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 02:18:03 GMT

I recall reading that the Indigo/R4k could hold up to 96MB memory. Is this maximum based on the current SIMM size (which will increase in the future) or is the limitation due to some other cause?  If the former is true, does this mean that larger memory sizes will be possible in the future?

Also, could someone post the specs for native SGI memory as a guideline to third party memory compatability?  I have been following the discussion of third party memory but it would be helpful to have that discussion summarized and condensed into something digestable by the masses.

Thanks...

						-Jim Callahan
From: schuman@eacces.wpd.sgi.com (Aaron Schuman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Pizza-box R4000?
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:16:17 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics 415-390-1901
NNTP-Posting-Host: eacces.wpd.sgi.com

Senseman> If the "pizza-box R4000" has been officially announced as has
Senseman> been suggested on this newsgroup, could someone post what
Senseman> is known about this offering?

Olson>  I don't think there is any SGI product under development
Olson>  that I would characterize as a "pizza box" style case.

Dave Olson just doesn't know what kind of pizza they eat in San Antonio!
From: joel@jellotrees.esd.sgi.com (Joel Tesler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: changing size of a gl Motif widget
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:59:11 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA


Resizing the GlxMDraw widget is no different from any other widget.
Keep in mind that sometimes the widget won't resize because the parent
widget is ignoring the resize request.  Also, you might try using
XtResizeWidget instead and see if that works better.

Joel Tesler
joel@sgi.com
415-390-3048
From: karron@karron.med.nyu.edu (Dan Karron (karron@nyu.edu))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Tops -I and -eps
Date: 12 Oct 92 06:06:35 GMT


I can't see any difference between 
tops Filename.rgb > Filename.ps
and
tops Filename.rgb -I > Filename.ps

The man pages says:

     The -I option will generate an Encapsulated PostScript image with a
     preview bitmap, but only a low resolution version of the input image is
     saved.  This file can then be included into a document for position only.
     Later the low resolution image can be replaced with high resolution image
     data.

but the headers in the ps look the same, and include a showpage at the bottom!

Is there a fix to be found ? Or am I missing something quite obvious!

Cheers!

Dan.
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From: andreas@awstar.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Andreas Wierse)
Subject: Re: Need Help in Showcase III - about inserting EPS files
Organization: Visualization Group Comp.Center (RUS) U of Stuttgart, FRG
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:33:46 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.160924.3261@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> cychong@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Chi Yin R Chong) writes:
>Hi, every comp.sys.sgi subscriber,
>
>     First I would like to say thanks to those who helped me to fix
>the problems I had in using Showcase.
>
>     Now I found another problem.
>     Is there anyone familiar with PS and EPS stuffs? The question I have is
>that I have some EPS files which I can both see on xpsview and print on Mac
>LaserPrinter (I just used lpr) but I CANNOT insert them into showcase.
>Showcase just gave me a blank block with the EPS file names printed in the
>middle of the block.

Do You mean, You don't see the EPS picture on the screen or You cannot see
it if You print out the whole showcase file to the printer?

If it's just that You cannot see it on the screen the explanation is
quite simple: to have the included EPS file displayed on the screen
showcase must be able to understand PostScript, this means to interpret
PostScript code. I don't think that this possibility is built into
showcase, since it is a rather complicated task. So instead of investing
man months in writing a PostScript interpreter for showcase the showcase
developers decided to invest the money in different areas and paint a
blank box with the file name instead.

If You finally print out the document, the EPS file is simply sent to
the printer who prints the picture You actually want.

If You are only interested in having the picture displayed in showcase
(no print out on printer) You could display the file using xpsview, do
a snapshot or imgsnap of the part You want to have in showcase and then
include that rgb image file into Your showcase document. Unfortunately
the quality of the printed rgb image is worse than that of the printed
EPS file.


>     (Enclosed you can find an EPS file which has that kind of problem.)
>     Does anyone know why this happen?
>
>     Thanks in advance.
>

Hope this helps

Andreas
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                             | Dep. Computersimulation and Visualization
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From: sgi.com!pdi!shoshana@BRL.MIL (Shoshana Abrass)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Gotcha - 3.10 compilers, inst, and 4.0.x
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:02:46 GMT


  I've been installing 4.0.5 on several new machines lately, and
  I think I've discovered a "gotcha".

  If you install the 3.10 compilers before installing a maintenance
  disk/tape - for example, 4.0.5 (A or F in my case) - the maintenance
  will overwrite the new compilers with the old 2.1.4? compilers,
  EVEN IF "setneweroverride" is OFF.  (These version numbers are for
  C and C++, but looking at the contents of the CD's I believe 
  Fortran and Pascal would also be affected.)

  Presumably this is because inst looks at the modification dates
  of the files, and at least some of the 4.0.x releases were rebuilt 
  more recently than the 3.10 compiler release.

  If anyone has an alternate explanation for this behavior or can
  confirm my suspicions, I'd be interested in hearing about it.

  -shoshana
   shoshana@pdi.com
   Shoshana Abrass
   Pacific Data Images, Sunnyvale, CA
From: scotth@hoshi.corp.sgi.com (Scott Henry)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Configuring slip
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:47:23 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc, Mountain View, CA


>>>>> In article <1992Oct15.132309.29581@vela.acs.oakland.edu>, bbesler@ouchem.chem.oakland.edu (Brent H. Besler) writes:

bbesler> I have two sgi's linked by a slip connection runing Irix 4.04.

bbesler> One which only has the modem link end is
bbesler> wizard.chem.wayne.edu(IP 141.217.26.105).  The other is
bbesler> mobashery.chem.wayne.edu(IP 141.217.26.104) which has an
bbesler> internet link and the other end of the modem link(through
bbesler> which slip runs).  I can telnet, ftp, ping etc. between the
bbesler> two machines, but can't access wizard from any other internet
bbesler> host and can only telnet from wizard to mobashery.  WHich
bbesler> route commands or what do I need to do to advertise the link
bbesler> to the rest of the internet?  The IP address of the gateway
bbesler> which link the chemistry ethernet of which mobashery, but
bbesler> wizard is not a part is 141.217.26.1.  Again wizard is
bbesler> connected only through a slip link to mobashery.

On wizard, I would recommend `chkconfig network off` (since you are
not using the ethernet), and `route add net default mobashery` to say
that all routes go out the SLIP link. You might as well `chkconfig
routed off` as well.

If 141.217.26.104 is mobashery's ethernet address (rather than one
specially assigned to the SLIP port), then you need to have mobashery
ARP for wizard's IP address: "arp -s wizard `netstat -ia | grep :`
pub" works nicely (put it before the "exec slip ..." in
/usr/etc/remoteslip on mobashery). Otherwise, when the SLIP link comes
up, routed on mobashery will automatically advertise a host route to
wizard.

=-=-=
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: "alan kennedy" <alan.kennedy@canrem.com>
Subject: purchase recommend
Reply-To: "alan kennedy" <alan.kennedy@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:48:07 EST

I have come to the conclusion that insted of upgrading our existing
platforms (4D70, 4D60 and 4D20), that it would be better to invest in a
new system altogether.

We are an animation company running Wavefront Advanced Visualizer.

I need the following;

         - Must have a life of 5 or more years
         - At least 80 mips.
         - at least 48 MB
         - 32 bit colour

I am leaning towards a Crimson. It has all I need and is more open than
an Indigo. I want to be able to upgrade and add as needed.

I'd like to hear from anyone who is in the animation biz, (or from
anyone who has an opinion for that matter).

Also, has anyone heard anything about a "black box" or "black star"
Indigo? I heard somone mention something the other day, but I'm not sure
what they were referring to.

Thanks for any info or suggestions!
Alan Kennedy
Senior Animator
The Image Group
- alan.kennedy@canrem.com -
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From: lsr-vax!art@uunet.uu.net (Art Hays - PSTAFF)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Indigo/R4k - Max Memory
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:26:41 GMT

I would like to relate an experience we just had with relation to this
quote that was in a recent posting in a message by Dave Olson:

> To quote Steve Valin (one of the hardware engineeers) from several
> months ago:
> 
> | 72 pin SIMMs.  Same as PS/2 and HP Vectra.  Any 80ns, 72 pin, 36bit wide
> | SIMMs should work (especially ones with Toshiba DRAM, the model used to
> | design the DRAM controller).  Of course, only SIMMs bought thru SGI are
> | guaranteed to work %^>

We tried Kingston memory for the HP Vectra 486 (KTH-8000/486) and it does work
in the Indigo/R4k.  However, the reverse isnt true.  The SIMMs that Kingston
sells specifically for the R4k (KSG-32/R40) didn't work in our Vectra 486s.
I'm glad the Indigo is not as picky as the Vectra.

Art Hays, Nat. Eye Institute,			uunet!lsr-vax!art
Nat. Institutes of Health, Bethesda, MD		(301) 496-7143
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sgi
From: nhuang@cs.ulowell.edu (Bat Man?)
Subject: FAQ needed
Organization: U. Mass. at Lowell
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 05:03:43 GMT

is there any FAQ in this newsgroup? thank you for pointing out where
can i get it!

							-bill


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