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From: perryh@marie.uucp (Perry Hutchison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: "Unrecongized Vendor" message at boot
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:08:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: marie.1992Dec17.030807.9650
Organization: St Mary's Academy, Portland Oregon

In <15811@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:

>>Anyone know how I make Toshiba a "recongized" vendor? :-)  Thanks.

>Get a source release of SunOS, and modify the table of "recongized"
>vendors.  (And, while you're at it, fix the spelling of "unrecognized".
>:-))

>Unfortunately, there's no "sr_conf.c" file, so you need source to the
>CD-ROM driver.

An alternative is to apply adb to sr_conf.o (or directly to /vmunix)
and change a same-length vendor name that you don't use to the one
that you do use.  In this case, the name Hitachi can be overlaid
with Toshiba (in two places, one is all upper case) and all should
be well (assuming you don't also have an Hitachi CD-ROM on the same
machine :-).  You could also patch Unrecongized while you're at it,
though there's probably no point in doing so.
From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Sun vs. Solbourne console speed
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:30:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara
Originator: news@auspex-gw.Auspex.COM

>This explain *how* Sun made the console driver slow, but not *why*.

OK.  The *why* is that, as I understand it, they fucked up and forgot to
make the interpreter cacheable.

One can, of course, then ask why they forgot to make the interpreter
cacheable, but I'm sure most of the computer weenies in the audience are
familiar with the terms "infinite loop" and "infinite recursion", so I'm
sure most of them will realize that, at some point, asking "why?" isn't
going to get them anywhere....
From: robear@access.digex.com (Robear)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Turnkey-like startup for Suns
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Date: 17 Dec 1992 23:26:11 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

Hmmm....Looks like the last post might have been garbled.  What I am
looking for is a way to start up a Sun Sparcstation 2 under 4.1.x in
an application, without the bother of a login.  I have played with
ttytab and the rc scripts, and only discovered strange ways to hang
the console.  Any ideas?  I do not have source...

	David Pipes
robear@digex.com

Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: jmg@stdavids.picker.com (Jeff Granito)
Subject: QBlazer Modems
Reply-To: jmg@stdavids.picker.com
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:18:19 GMT

	We currently have 2 QBlazer modems connected to SPARC 2 workstations.  Users 
can dial in and out with no problems.  One problem we are seeing is when long files
are catted out over the modem, about halfway though the cat the file starts losing
characters.  It appears that every other character is making over the line.  Once the
prompt is back, things act normal again.  XON/XOFF works allowing the transmission to
stop, and the display of the file is not corrupted.

  In trying different options, I have fixed the speed between the SPARC and QBlazer to
9600 baud, and am using both hardware and software flow control.  Has anybody else
seen this problem, and if so is there a fix for it?

Thanks for your help.

Jeff

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From: link@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Link)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Problems with Name service
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:03:23 GMT
Reply-To: link@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Richard Link)
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

>In comp.sys.sun.admin, jh26@prism.gatech.EDU (Jay Harrell) writes:
>>I'm setting up my Sun (I'm trying to at least) to use a name server.
>>When I run nslookup, I get the name and address of my default server
>>and I can query it to my heart's delight.  When I run (ping/telnet/ftp/whateve
>>with a host that is not in my local host file, I get "unknown host"  My
>>resolv.conf file looks like this.......
>

> link@oasys.dt.navy.mil responded with--
>I have a similar problem on my machine running DNS without NIS.  In order to
>fix this problem you must modify and rebuild the resolver library....

Several people sent me e-mail suggesting the use of the resolv+ package which
allows any combination of DNS, etc/hosts and NIS to be used in any order
desired.

Thanks to those who responded.  You know who you are.
----

Rick Link                     Internet: link@fracture.dt.navy.mil
David Taylor Research Center  Ma Bell:  (301)267-4335            
Annapolis, MD 21402-5067      Autovon:  281-4335
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David Taylor Research Center  Ma Bell:  (301)267-4335            
Annapolis, MD 21402-5067      Autovon:  281-4335
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: eric@homebase.vistachrome.com (Eric Brunson)
Subject: Creating a shared object lib from a .a ?
Organization: Vista-Chrome Incorporated
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:49:02 GMT

O.K. Forgive my ignorance, but I don't know enough to know it this is 
possible or not.  I want to create a .so of my libXext.a lib.  I
extracted the .o with ar but ld -assert pure-text failed on all the
files.  Is there somthing simple that can be done about this or should I
just break down and build X11R5 ( I'm running R4 ) from the sources?

I'm running SunOS 4.1.3 on a sun4c architecture.

Any help is appreciated, email and I'll summarize to the net if anyone
is interested.

Thanks...

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|o|    I hate Kansas.  I hate  |     eric@vistachrome.com
| |    the farm.  I hate you.  |     brunson@math.fsu.edu
| |    I'm leaving.            |
| |               Dorothy      |
|o| P.S.                       |
| |   Took the dog.            |
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From: peram@cs.tamu.edu (Suresh B Peram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: How do you view postscript under Motif running X11R5?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:49:50 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ai0.cs.tamu.edu


Try compiling ghostview or ghostscript.
ghostview is a front-end (?) for ghostscript
and both will let you view a postscript file.
They are available in the public domain

Suresh
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: mfraioli@grebyn.com (Marc Fraioli)
Subject: Can a Sun NIS server which is not a DNS server access DNS?
Organization: Grebyn Timesharing
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:36:43 GMT

Concerning running NIS and DNS on Suns:

I am aware that Sun tightly integrates NIS and DNS, and that to access
DNS, the NIS host map must be made with the YP_INTERDOMAIN token
etc..(via the B=-b in the YP makefile).  My question is: does the NIS
master have to be the DNS primary server as well?  Can an NIS master use
it's resolv.conf to access another Sun inside or outside of it's NIS
domain for name resolution via DNS?  I've tried splitting the duties up,
and making an NIS master a forwarding DNS server, all to no avail.
Please don't tell me we'll have to replace our gethostbyname etc..
routines, that would be a MAJOR pain in the butt!

 Thanks.

P.S. The configuration is very straightforward-- a bunch of SPARC2s
running SunOS 4.1.3.


-- 
Marc Fraioli
mfraioli@grebyn.com	        	(So I'm a minimalist...)
From: streeter@osgood.sanders.lockheed.com (Ken Streeter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: fast-find and automounter
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:47:42 GMT
Organization: Lockheed Sanders, Inc.



Currently, our site uses the fast-find feature by running
/usr/lib/find/updatedb every night out of cron on our primary
fileserver.  Recently, we have switched from having most of our disks
mounted explicitly (in /etc/fstab) to having most of our disks moutned
using automount.  This has been done because not all of our disks
reside on our fileserver -- typically two or three disks hang off of
all our machines, with a dozen off our fileserver

Now, however, the fast-find database built by updatedb no longer
builds its indexes for files which are automounted on our fileserver,
but only for the disks which are explicitly mounted (via /etc/fstab)
on the fileserver.

Does anybody have any solutions for this problem?  Essentially, I
would like for the fast-find to build its database on all the
automounted disks.

--Ken Streeter
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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Type 4 vs. Type 5 Keyboard
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:27:48 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>I don't know of any undocumented call, but there is an ioctl KIOCTYPE
>documented in kb(4m).

...which returns KB_SUN4 on a Type 5 keyboard; there is no KB_SUN5 code
for the Type 5.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.admin:9435 comp.unix.admin:6641
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: libc.so.* and libc.sa.*: kernel arch dependent?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 03:59:31 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gandalf.think.com

In article <1992Dec16.224530.21853@rigel.econ.uga.edu> glenn@rigel.econ.uga.edu (Glenn F. Leavell) writes:
>While rebuilding /usr/lib/libc.so.* and /usr/lib/libc.sa.*, an interesting
>question has come up.  These libraries are, of course, application architecture
>dependent, but are they kernel architecture dependent?

No.  If they were, they'd be in /usr/kvm rather than /usr/lib (there would
be links in /usr/lib, of course).

Consider: the shared libraries are compiled from the same sources and
headers as the static libraries, and programs linked statically with the
latter are portable between different kernel architectures.

In general, programs are only kernel-dependent if they access /dev/mem or
/dev/kmem, and such programs have to be setuid.  Since libraries can't be
setuid, they shouldn't try to access them.  (Strictly speaking, this rule
could be violated for those system functions that are documented as being
restricted to the superuser, since a user-mode implementation might work by
accessing /dev/mem -- however, this isn't how any Unix system calls are
implemented.)
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: /bin/passwd modifications
From: oleg@gd.cs.csufresno.edu
Date: 12 Dec 92 06:51:23 PST
Organization: Computer Science Departement of California State University in Fresno

In article <1992Dec11.211903.3741@eecs.nwu.edu> phil@pex.eecs.nwu.edu (William LeFebvre) writes:
>
>Be aware: any user who does not have a shell listed in /etc/shells
>will not be able to do an FTP login.  That is, they will not be
>able to connect to the machine's FTP server and use it with their
>username and password.  This will not be a problem if everyone is
>forced to use the shell that is the only one listed in /etc/shells.
>
>By the way, I personally see nothing wrong with letting users change
>their login shells, as long as it is one of the shells listed in
>/etc/shells.  My /etc/shells contains sh, csh, tcsh, and bash....
>

I would actually have chsh allow you to set login shell to anything while adding
option to login that gives you /bin/sh -f if you messed up (like: login: mike -f).
Of course, than you need some way to block this option for special accounts like
sync.

Oleg



Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.admin:9436 comp.sys.sun.misc:5840
From: jh26@prism.gatech.EDU (Jay Harrell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Problems with Name service
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:22:54 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.admin
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I'm setting up my Sun (I'm trying to at least) to use a name server.
When I run nslookup, I get the name and address of my default server
and I can query it to my heart's delight.  When I run (ping/telnet/ftp/whatever)
with a host that is not in my local host file, I get "unknown host"  My
resolv.conf file looks like this:

	janis% cat /etc/resolv.conf
	domain gtri.gatech.edu
	nameserver 128.61.1.251
	nameserver 128.61.1.1
	janis% 

I have rebooted my machine since I set this up, but still it doesn't work.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

jay

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Internet : jh26@prism.gatech.edu 	Telephone: (404) 894-4266	
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.admin
From: "mark d'cunha" <mark.d'cunha@canrem.com>
Subject: test
Reply-To: "mark d'cunha" <mark.d'cunha@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: comp
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:24:04 EST

TO:mark.dcunha@canrem.com

This is a test.
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From: rfadler@uswnvg.com (Rick Fadler (206) 450-8575)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
Subject: psuedo-ttys on OSx 5.1a
Keywords: pty ioctl
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:28:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U S WEST NewVector Group, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

I have recently inherited some code that, unfortunately was not completed 
before the original author left. As a result I have come across some 
interesting system calls that appear to be undocumented.

The calls are, open_controlling_pty and open_slave_pty. They are both found
in the library /usr/.ucblib/libpyr.a.

What is unusual is that when I run the application with a regular user id
they work fine, but when executed as root the function
"open_controlling_pty" causes a coredump.  I have traced the dump using dbx
and it points to open_controlling_pty.

This doesn't make sense to me and so far I have found no manual pages or
other documentation on this function. Unfortunately the programmer who wrote
the code is no longer here to explain it all to me.

My second question is once I get the master pty open (which works when run
as a regular user) I try to send data to the master pty. Unfortunately local
echo of NL "ECHONL" is enabled on the pty which causes any new line that
is sent to the pty to be echoed back to the application.  This is causing a
whole lot of problems. I have tried to use ioctl to turn off ECHONL but even
though the ioctl succeeds, when I check the setting ECHONL is still turned
on.  One collegue suggested that perhaps only a subset of the requests are
valid when you are dealing with a master pty. Does anyone know of any
documentation concerning ioctl and ptys?

Any advice, comments, jokes, etc. would be appriciated.

Rick Fadler
Newsgroups: comp.sys.pyramid
From: davidm@sni.ca (David Macklem)
Subject: screwed up /etc/utmp file
Summary: can anyone provide hints n this problem?
Keywords: who /etc/utmp login
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf, Sietec Open Systems, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 13:13:40 GMT

Every so often on our Nixdorf Targon 35, running TOS 3.3.04, a user,
running att, attempting to login gets the following message:

'No "utmp" entry. You must exec login from the lowest level shell.'

This problem is not limited to a specific user, terminal or port, and
usually, if a login is attempted again, this problem goes away. However,
sometimes, it has necessitated a reboot, as no one can login.

Further investigation has found that the /etc/.attutmp file has gotten
corrupted, somehow.  There is no boot information and the 'who' command
(among others reading the utmp file) no longer works.

Has anyone else seen this particular problem?  If so, how did you fix
it?

Thanks.
-- 
David Macklem                     Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.
davidm@sni.ca                     2235 Sheppard Avenue East, Toronto, Ontario
uunet!uunet-ca!snitor!davidm      Canada M3C 3L8       (416-496-8510)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: hdev@dutiak.tudelft.nl (Hans de Vreught)
Subject: 2MB PCMCIA
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 14:21:32 GMT


My new 2MB cards of Logical Connection work fine in my HP 95LX.
I've also tried them in a ZEOS pocket computer: it works fine in that machine
as well (someone had complained a couple of months ago that the card didn't
work; guess he had a bad ZEOS or a bad card).
--
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hdev@dutiba.twi.tudelft.nl               | Young man, in mathematics
Delft University of Technology (TWI-ThI) | you don't understand things,
The Netherlands                          | you just get used to them.
From: ebodin@pearl.tufts.edu (Ethan Bodin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: TSR info-manager for Zeos Pocket?
Date: 15 Dec 92 02:31:12 GMT
Organization: Tufts University - Medford, MA

I just got a Zeos Pocket PC, and I really like it.  I'm using it mostly for
word-processing, but would also like to get more into keeping addresses,
appointments, etc on it.

Sad to say, the RacePen application that comes with the Zeos is not TSR.  This
means that alarms do not go off when I'm using Works (which I leave on most of
the time; it's where I do my work.), and any names I enter are not available
unless I exit Works...

Is there a good, small (I want it to fit on the built-in ram-disk, which is
300-something K) TSR program out there that does what I want, reliably?

thanks,

Ethan Bodin
From: george@ucs.ubc.ca (George Chow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Psion3 battery life
Followup-To: comp.sys.palmtops
Date: 13 Dec 1992 04:54:15 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services, UBC, Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: swiss.ucs.ubc.ca

In article <1992Dec11.132458.2957@city.cs> lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun) writes:
>In article <1992Dec8.174348.3035@zellweger.ch> bisc@zellweger.CH (Thomas K. Bischoff) writes:
>>For batteries I recommend LitEon. They last the longest. Mine several month
>>now. They are more expensive than the alkaline types, but they also last
>>more longer.
>
>I have never heard of these. Are they lithium? 

Yeah, LithEon batteries are lithium. Around here, I can get Energizer or
Duracell AA for about $0.65 each; the LithEon AA are about $3.50 each.

> I thought alkaline
>types were the most expensive. So how much more expensiive are 
>these LitEons and how much longer do they last than alkaline?

Yeah, if the person above who uses the LithEon could comment on the
improvement, that would be great. I.e., how much longer does the LithEon
last compared to conventional alkaline. I've been reluctant to drop $7 for 
a set to try out.

>>P.S. followup to comp.sys.palmtops, because the 'net' says handhels is
>>for calculators.

But don't some calculators also use AA?

George

From: rrd@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ray Depew)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:18:42 GMT
Subject: HP95:  Not a bug. =__________
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

Okay, so I'm in the MEMO application and I want to underline a line.  Normally
I use the [-] key, but this time for fun I decide to use the [=] key to 
double-underline the item.

I press and hold the [=] key, and I get a line that looks like this:

=______________________

So what's going on?

I'm running a (fairly) clean machine.  I back it up often, I keep the A: and
C: drives empty of old/useless files.  I'm running 95BUDDY and WEEKABK.  Is
this little extra brought to us c/o 95BUDDY, or c/o HP?

If I missed something obvious, then chastisement and references to specific 
manual page numbers are welcome.

If I didn't miss something obvious, then don't give it the B-word just yet.  
This could be useful somehow.


Regards
Ray Depew
Integrated Circuits Business Division
Hewlett Packard Co, Fort Collins, Colorado
rrd@hpfiqa.fc.hp.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: jad@nsa.hp.com (John Dilley)
Subject: 95lx pbk data conversion
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:54:11 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Networked Systems Architecture


	I want to convert an address list on UNIX to/from 95LX format.
Does anyone have code that does this?  (I know about the connectivity
pak, but I'm running on UNIX not on a PC).  Has anyone got a
functionally equivalent version for UNIX or must I write one myself?
Which brings up the question, what is the specific format?  I looked on
eddie.mit.edu but did not see a file that described the specific format.
Information would be much appreciated, please email to me and I will
summarize.  Thanks,

                         --       jad       --
From: anthony@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Anthony J Stieber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
Subject: Re: Help needed to find LXfile or similar
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:26:35 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4
Keywords: HP95LX  DATABASE

In article <BzDLH1.7Iy@cantua.canterbury.ac.nz> burn@geog.canterbury.ac.nz (Burn Hockey) writes:
[text reformatted to fit in 80 columns]
>Could some kind soul please help me find LXfile or some other small
>database for the HP95LX.   I`m looking for something cheap and simple.

LXfile is only on Compuserve at the moment.  In the meantime the
Phonebook application and Lotus 123 have some database functionality.
123 has sort, search, and report generation, but is limited to what it
can hold in system RAM.  Just about any database manager you can fit on
the 95 will work, try an old version of PC-File.  Peronsally I use
multiple flat text files in freyja, although this has limitations.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops
From: Etan@world.std.com (Etan Rozin)
Subject: Sharp Wizard OZ8200 for sale
Summary: Sharp Wizard OZ 8200 for sale
Keywords: Sharp Wizard OZ8200
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:12:19 GMT

For sale. 
Sharp Wizard OZ 8200 128k (sells for $299.00)
+ Spreadsheet software card (sells for $159.00)
+ Macintosh interface cable and software (sells for $89.00)

Selling all the above for $350 !! + shipping
All in perfect condition, except this:
% Small scratch on outer shell of Wizard
% DonUt have manuals for interface and spreadsheet (left them somewhere)

Would like to sell all the above together.

Contact me here or by voice 617-277-0523

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From: eugene@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Gene Dick)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:23:37 GMT
Subject: Re: HP95: Does anyone have a REV C HOPPER in their unit?
Organization: HP Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.palmtops

>In comp.sys.palmtops, ewv@craycos.com (Eric Varsanyi) writes:
>
> ...
>
>    This bug is supposed to be fixed in the Rev C hopper chip, even though
>    I upgraded to a 1 MB unit I still have the old buggy hopper (you
>    can tell by going into _sys, running debug, and doing an 'i 3fe'. If
>    it returns 0 you have an old one, 0xb0 means you have a new one.
>
>    Does anyone have a Rev C in their unit? Did HP even release the Rev C?
>    The docs I have talk about its release in the past tense and I got those
>    docs in May 91.
>


I just ran your test and I seem to have the Rev C chip.  I just had my
95LX upgraded to 1Mb in the lest 2 weeks.

Gene Dick
HP Fort Collins

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