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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: kling is a person!!!
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:05:23 EST
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

>NOW, MOVE THIS TO REC.ARTS.STARTREK.MISC IF YOU WISH TO CONTINUE THIS IDIOTIC
>THREAD!!!!!!!!!!  (Please?)

Well, only because you asked polite enough....

Now, for the second time, why whine about whining and still complain and
whine about this thread not being in misc?  If it's not in misc and you
want to move it are you THAT lazy that all you can do is make your point
across in the RUDEST way possible (IMHO) and then have the NERVE to
scream (you used capitals) at the public to move the thread to another
conference?  Come on, learn some netiquette.


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From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: New season start date
Date: 27 Jul 92 03:05:39 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <62780@cup.portal.com> ts@cup.portal.com (Tim W Smith) writes:
<> is currently playing, determine where that is in the original count of 26
<> episodes.  Just count forward on your favorite calendar.
<> 
<> Thinking produces wonders.
<
<This assumes that one knows all 26 episodes and the order they were in.
<I've missed some, and I also was out of town for a few weeks, and so
<my VCR wrapped on the tape, leaving everything confused.

You didn't track of when the season started?  You did!  The next computation
is easy.  You didn't?  OK, it may be a loss now.
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Subject: Re: Starfleet Doctors and the Academy (was Fascis
From: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot)
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:01:01 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <1992Jul24.134758.19350@yang.earlham.edu>, alexv@yang.earlham.edu writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.162933.3738@stsci.edu>, wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>>> 
>> In article <1992Jul20.124014.57351@cc.usu.edu> sll28@cc.usu.edu (LORNA_PAYNE) replies:
>>>[in all fairness it must be admitted that SFA seems to be much more than 
>>>a military university:  very few MD's in the Army are West Point graduates,
>>>but all Starfleet MD's seem to have attended the Acadamy.  Perhaps for a 
>>>year after med school?]
>> 
>> Why do you say that all Starfleet MD's seem to have attended the
>> Academy?
>>  
>> I can imagine *some* Starfleet MDs attended the academy, but the two
>> main doctors we have had "access" to don't seem to have attended, in
>> my opinion.
>> 
>   Quite the contrary, Bevery Crusher has demonstrated more than once that
> she is a starfleet grad.  She has shruged off Worf's protection more than
> once refering to starfleet training in using a phaser.  Also she has 
> demonstrated Starfleet training in the martial arts, as has been said that
> 'everyone' on board the enterprise either knows, or is learning (except in
> rare cases, such as children).  Even Troi, who is a civilian, has had
> basic training in use of a phaser, and self-defence.  Not SF training, but 
> basic(by Worf, which is probably better if not as good).  
> On top of that, I believe that Beverly has mentioned more than once the
> 'life she choose' by joining the academy.
> -Alex
> p.s. McCoy I hold no opinion on, I haven't seen old trek in ages...

Well, Bev, Bones, Troi and Pulaski have all been explicitly mentioned as being
*Lt. Cmdr.s*.  This is a comiisioned rank, and I assume that they would have
to go to the academy for that.

There has been nothing in either series that has shown comissioned officers
that have not gone to SFA, so until an episode says otherwise, I think we
have to assume that all of them went through the Academy.

(Also, as a side note, Troi seems the least likely of all of the above to
have attended SFA, because of her demeanor and general lack of militaryness.
But, remember, in "Disaster," she gets control of the bridge, as ranking
officer.  If her rank were some kind of "honorary" rank or something, I 
would assume that Ro would have been much more adamant in taking control
of the situation over letting Troi handle it.  Just MHO).

Later,
-- 
Sean C. Duncan, scd@einstein.bgsu.edu :: scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu    
"We're going to kill the California girls."  - Thurston Moore.
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From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Julie Bixby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Brent Spiner--short intervew
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:26:03 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

In the LA TIMES' TV Times for July 26-Aug 1, they have a feature article
on "First-rate Second Bananas".  One of those chosen was....Brent!
Here's his article in its entirety:

BRENT SPINER, who plays inquisitve android Data on "Star Trek: the Next
Generation," says he enjoyed the original "Star Trek," but "my interest
was much more in comedy."
     Especially the comedy of Lucille Ball. "If there is any reason that
I decided to become an actor it was the episode of 'I Love Lucy' when
she met William Holden at the Brown Derby," said Spiner, who appeared
on Broadway in the Tony-winning "Sunday in the Park with George" and
"Big River."
     "I watched the episode and I thought, 'I got to get out to Hollywood.'
...I thought, 'I have to do that. I have to hang out at the Beverly Hills
Hotel and meet Harpo Marx.'"
     Spiner, 43, believes Data is essentially a comedic character
situated in a dramatic series. He found it funny that Data lost his head
in this season's cliffhanger. "We didn't play it as if it were comical,
but there is something comical about discussing losing your head."
     Spiner doesn't know what will happen to "Star Trek" after next
season. There have been rumors of a possible feature film. "This is
our last contract year," he said. He doubts he will fall victim to
typecasting: "I don't think there are a lot of android parts out there."


-- 
Julie Bixby                        Internet: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu
Engage Romulan .sig cloaking device....
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From: fournes@belay (John Al Kendall, Head Navigator)
Subject: Star Trekking!
Organization: Belay Enterprises Inc. Calgary, Alberta, Canada
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 1992 01:28:35 GMT

... the song that everyone loves to hate. :-)

I heard a couple of times that there were verses of the song made
for most of the regulars who appeared in TOS.  Can anyone verify this
for me?  I mean besides Uhura, Spock, Bones, Kirk, and Scotty.

Greatly appreciated!

					--- Eugen Fournes
=============================================================================
path:   fournes%belay@uunet.uu.net
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From: hermit@dastari.uucp (Mark Buda)
Subject: Rob Bowman
Reply-To: hermit%dastari.uucp@devon.lns.pa.us
Organization: Avalon Computing
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:38:30 GMT

Is the Rob Bowman who directed a few TNG episodes the same Rob Bowman
who directed a recent Parker Lewis episode?
--
Mark Buda

I get my monkeys for nothing and my chimps for free.
From: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The new season start date is...
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:33:06 GMT
Reply-To: brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot)
Organization: Vidiot's Hangout

In article <1992Jul21.232347.23422@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
<
<The TENTATIVE season start date is the week of Sept. 21 - 27.  I know
<I posted this same message not that long ago.

What is tentative about it?  Do you know something that the rest of us don't
know, like when the end of the fifth season comes about that the next week
will not be the beginning of the new season?
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From: lasse@mits.mdata.fi (Lasse Reinikainen)
Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine?
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:01:17 GMT

>(Over here in germany, we're at the a** of the world, we're in the middle
>of 3rd saison ST:TNG ==:( ) 

Here in Finlad we are in the beginning of the 3rd season...   :(
From: whinna@med.unc.edu (Herb Whinna)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
Date: 24 Jul 92 02:18:14 GMT
Organization: UNC-CH School of Medicine

>uh uh - I agree that Crusher is the best looking of the women on now, but Vache
>(sp?) was far more attractive than minuet, even if she did have a really
>unfortunate name (in French, Vache is cow.....)
>

Vash wins hands down. Penetrating eyes, great smile, nice legs (for a
human), smart as hell and downright conniving!

Ro #1 of regular characters.  What can I say, I like strong-willed (read
stubborn) women. Just ask my wife, she's one though she's too stubborn
ever to admit it-:)
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From: mehr@oskar.uchicago.edu (David Mehringer)
Subject: Re: Shatner proposes idea for Star Trek VII
Organization: Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:38:23 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.043736.9132@r-node.gts.org> yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung) writes:
>In article <1992Jul18.045211.9659@midway.uchicago.edu> mehr@oskar.uchicago.edu (David Mehringer) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul17.191514.6126@r-node.gts.org> yung@r-node.gts.org (Amos Yung) writes:
>>>
[stuff delted]
>>>
>>>How can a bad movie be consider as entertainment? You seems to be suggesting
>>>that you would gladly swallow anything Paramount throws at you as long as
>>>there is a star trek logo stamped on it. 
>>
>>And you seem to be suggesting that ST VII (if there is one) will be 
>>anything but good.  Maybe we should wait and see.  Granted, there have
>>been some below average (IMO) ST films, namely I and V, and to a lesser
>>extent III, but II, IV, and VI were good.  I agree with Rick that if
>>you don't want to see ST VII, don't go to the theater if/when it comes
>>out.
>>
>
>You must have miss the original post.
>
>ST VII might not be bad but, continuing with this trend, eventually they
>WILL come up with a real drek like STV again. Do you want Star Trek to 
>end in such a miserable ending?
>
I really don't care if the last ST movie is a flop.  I enjoy ST a great 
deal, but on what sort of note it ultimately ends doesn't concern me.  


--
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee)
Subject: Re: Fascist State
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:28:51 GMT

In article <92202.154241GRV101@psuvm.psu.edu>, GRV101@psuvm.psu.edu (Callec Dradja) writes:
>>In article <92200.121338IA80024@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>, IA80024@MAINE.MAINE.EDU
>>(Nicholas C. Hester) writes:
>>
>>> What gets me is that you have to belong to StarFleet to operate ships
>>> that go faster than Warp 3.  I see no reason to control it like that.
>>> Remember, this is the society that honors freedom and tries to rely
>>> on self-discipline.
>
>Or it could be that the really fast ships cost a whole hell of a lot of
>money and no one but planetary government can afford them. You know,
>you need someone like scotty or Geordy (how do you speel that name
>anyway) just to keep a high warp ship running. A good question to ask
>is why is it that in America with all of its freedoms, only the military
>runs nuclear powered ships. Does is seem to you that the U.S. is a
>facist state?

they use nuclear power for duration so they can stay out at sea for however
many eons they need to without seen anyting even resembling land. there are
other ways (more economical and just as efficient) to get form one side of
the atlantic to the other. the difference is the industries have no need for
spending huge quantities of money for duration when refuling is more economical
(although some of the multi-billion dollar companies could). they are in business
to make money after all. now in the year umpteenjillion or whenever startrek
takes place (23rd cent.?) vast distances must be traveled. think about it wouldnt
these by now HUGE corporations find it invaluable to be able to get their products
to market before their competitors or for that matter do anyting faster than
their competitors. so you would think that warp 3+ engines would be an acceptible
expenditure for the big corporate guys wouldnt you?

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From: charlesk@fraser.sfu.ca (Charles Hak Kim)
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ? TROI!
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:04:08 GMT

ashum@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>How about the woman w/ the Irish accent in the episode in which all that
>livestock got brought abord the Enterprise?  What's her name?


The Babarooskie.  Or if she were president Babraham Lincoln.

:)

Regards, 
Charles H. Kim

charlesk@sfu.ca
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From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,mit.bboard,rec.arts.startrek,ne.wanted
Subject: Re: WANTED : ST:TNG tapes
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:17:34 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <TCB.92Jul20122358@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu> tcb@wombat.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Ted Beatie) writes:
>
>I'm looking for someonw preferably within 50 miles of Boston who has all of
>Star Trek : The Next Generation on tape.  I have all of the first season, I
>am now looking for 2-5.  I would be willing to drive to pick them up, and offer
>a small sum as gratitude.  People with clean copies, and clearly marked which
>episodes are what need only respond.  Thanks a bunch...
>

Try your local Tower Records. I'm sure they would be delighted to ** SELL **
you them, as opposed to publically requesting a bootleg source.

Neil


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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
Reply-To: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 23:42:13 GMT


In a previous article, mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz) says:

>[All sorts of fawning and drooling deleted.]
>
>With all the names of female characters flying across this subject, I have
>to wonder:  Are there any woman portrayed in TNG who *aren't* physically
>attractive to the masses?  Other than elderly matriarchs and the like?
>
>I am *NOT* trying to start a new thread on unattractive females in TNG
>(although, sad to say, someone no doubt will follow up on it anyway). 

I know I shouldn't, but I can't help myself.

1. Ensign Sonia Gomez  (Q Who, Samaritan Snare)
2. Dr. Pulaski (2nd season)
3. Soren (The Outcast)
4. Yarina (Code of Honor)
5. Ensign T'Su (The Arsenal of Freedom)
6. Keiko (O' Brien's wife)
7. Adriana (The Ensigns of Command)
8. Ensign Judd (The Game - she kissed Wesley)
9. Chief Engineer McDougal (The Naked Now)
10. Whoopi Goldberg (sad but true - however the best actress that will ever
                     grace her presence on the set).
From: neil@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Neil P.G.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Starfleet Doctors and the Academy (was Fascis
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:40:38 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In <GERLACH.92Jul27092620@greyrock.yuma.acns.colostate.edu> gerlach@yuma.acns.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach) writes:

>Now the way I understand this, this whole thread about Bones, Bev,
>Troi, etc. attending the Academy was started out of the fact that
>Bones obviously never took the Kobayashi Maru test.  My understanding
>form the novel _Kobayashi Maru_ is that only cadets in the "Command"
>areas were required to take this test.  Since all of the
>aforementioned crewmembers have specialties in the sciences, they
>probably didn't have to take such tests.  This would also explain why
>Spock (in ST:TWoK) told Kirk that _he_ never took the Kobayashi Maru
>test.  Anyone else care to speculate?

My problem with that is that Spock, whilst clearly part of the Science
area was clearly also part of the Command area - after all, he was
First Officer and tended to take charge of the Enterprise quite often
when Kirk rushed off headlong into Yet Another Dangerous Situation(TM).
--
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neil@ccl.umist.ac.uk	\/	 somewhere in between."
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From: val@news.ccutah.edu (Val Kartchner)
Subject: Re: Fizzbin: YES
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:14:21 GMT

Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher) writes:
: Shacha Scott!
: 
: Please post or send the rules to me! (A cute scene, isn't it?)

I think that there will be enough interest to justify just posting the rules.
Thanks in advance go to anyone who is willing to post the rules.

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From: becker@edwards-vax.af.mil
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Shatner proposes idea for Star Trek VII
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:08:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: edwards-.1992Jul28.090825.28875
Organization: IFAST - EDWARDS Air Force Base

From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)writes.....

 >>Just because I said Star Trek as we know it is centered around the 
 >>awesome threesome, doesn't mean that I don't think there are many
 >>other stories that could be told.  If another story is told that
 >>has its roots from Star Trek, I say great, but don't call it Star
 >>Trek.  The title has to change.

>i cannot believe that people think like this.  it's called "Star Trek",
>not "Star Trek: the adventures of Captain James T. Kirk".  
>a rose by any other name etc.

Come on.....thats like putting four other people in the I love Lucy 
series and calling it I love Lucy.....it wouldn't be the same!  

>obviously the two of us are going to have a hard time agreeing on anything.
>i suggest that we stop this thread where it lies.

Ahhhh....The spice of life!!!!! Disagreements!!!! :-)


>ok
>dpm
>-- 
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From:  (jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Ideas on how to cure the "Wesley Problem"
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:37:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: haphazard, at best

In article <1992Jul27.194144.10370@bnlux1.bnl.gov>, schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Jul27.154205.3315@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:
> >ludwigj@CS.ColoState.EDU (Vilkata (Joe Ludwig)) writes:
> >

> >I want to see Wesley get *dumped*.  That might give him some actual 
> >depth...
> 
> Wes _did_ acquire depth this season.  Or did you miss "The First Duty"?
> 

Weasel Crusher Depth Measurement Instructions:

1) Take glass of water
2) Spill on countertop
3) Measure depth

Depth of water = Depth of Wes Crusher

"We're in StarFleet, we don't lie"
The punk should be doing push-ups on the concrete at StarFleet  Minimum
Security Facility for gross negligence, conspiracy, and manslaughter.    
Now that would have depth.  "Next week, on an all new Episode of ST:TNG... 
Wesley Crusher tries to take a shower.  
(Show Picard talking through a force wall): 'Don't bend
over for the sonic cleaner, Wes.  Here's a pack of Marlboros. '"

Jon  jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
================================
"Grunt. Pant. Gasp. Squeal" - Wesley Crusher showing sexual arousal
 in "The Game"
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From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: *** Help me think up a good Star Trek license plate!
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:19:33 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: University of California, Davis

In article <92207.215905NAG101@psuvm.psu.edu>, NAG101@psuvm.psu.edu (Nick Giacobe) writes:
> 
> What about :
> 
> 10 FORWD
> PHTN TPDO
> ENGAGE
> DAMIT JIM
> GALILEO


Try HESDEDJIM
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Subject: "Royale" is a great episode.  NOT!!
Reply-To: bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 23:50:39 GMT


I never saw "Royale" before last night.  Now I'm sorry I did.
It is the worst Next Generation episode of all time.

Charles Gibbs
gibbsc@ac.grin.edu