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From: adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay)
Subject: Re: openwin and DISPLAY
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:25:30 GMT

andys@flatline.sbi.com (Andy Sherman) writes:
">>>>> On 4 Sep 92 11:32:58 GMT, adh@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) said:
"
"adh> but openwin is damaged -- it won't [easily] run anywhere but the
"adh> console.  i tried setting DISPLAY to the machine:0 form, and ow just
"adh> barked and died (a clean death -- i don't think it suffered much).
"
"Why would you want to do this????.

because i have an x terminal on my desk.

"                                    Display 0 *is* the console.  It
"makes no sense to run the ow server (as opposed to clients) from
"somewhere else.

it does if the console is on your labserver, in your lab.

i don't know *which* of the openwin tools is refusing to run remotely;
i just tried /usr/openwin/bin/openwin -- *that's* what i referred to
above.

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From: alan@metadigm.co.uk (Alan McRae)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Lotus 123 Sun v1.1 using X-Terminals
Date: 8 Sep 1992 16:35:31 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


We have Lotus 123 (Sun version v1.1) on an SS2.  This runs OK under OW2
on the console screen.

When we attempt to run it setting the DISPLAY to a PC running an
X-server it falls over with an X protocol error. This refers to (51)
X_SetFontPath. If we attempt to run specifying a specfic (existing)
font on the command line it fails to run with no error message (it
just exits).

The PC is a 4-bit deep VGA screen running PC-XView.  I have installed
the lotus supplied bdf fonts on the PC server and can use them with
xfd. All the Sun desktop utilities and olwm run fine on the PC
X-Terminal.

Has anyone had any success running 123 using X11R4 on any X-Terminal?

Please reply via Email.


Alan McRae                                     | Phone: +44 223 871577
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Re: How bad is WordPerfect 5.1
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 13:44:28 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.123654.25300@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk> g.barker%nmr.ion.bpmf.ac.uk@mail-a.bcc.ac.uk writes:
>A Sparc binary of 5.1 is on the CDOffice cd thats just been distributed ot
>(some) Sun sites.  Motif interface, WYSIWYG, lots of (too many) popups, help
>windows etc.  Fairly SLOW, but just about usable.  Screen fonts looked nasty at
>100% magnification, not too bad at 150%.  Looks nothing like WP5.0 for Suns,
>or WP5.0/5.1 for MSDOS.

I also just found out that WP51 doesn't understand BSD groups.  There's
a nifty feature that allows you to restrict access to users that belong
to particular groups.  You can also, say, make everyone in group "staff"'s
print jobs print at a higher priority.  Unfortunately it's next to useless
unless you train all of your users to use the 'newgrp' command before
running xwp.  Duh.

--Dave
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From: lupe@ukw.uucp (Lupe Christoph)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: openwin and DISPLAY
Date: 6 Sep 92 12:31:29 GMT
Organization: cic

wolf@mt.att.com (Thomas Wolf) writes:

>This is probably a FAQ: Why does the openwin script overwrite the DISPLAY
>variable with its own ":0"?  An application I'm running under OW3.0 needs
>to have at least "unix" or a hostname in that variable.  What's the simplest
>solution to retaining the variable?

From "man openwin":

     DISPLAY
          By default this is ":0" meaning this  xnews  server  is
          the first (zero based) one running on this machine.  If
          you need to  run  more  than  one  server  on  a  given
          machine, use the "-display" option.

The man pages are a bit fuzzy on this. But you *can* use the -display
option with openwin just like that used by the clients.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: skip@eco.twg.com (Skip Koppenhaver)
Subject: Re: My Sun calendar man. went flaky - why?
Organization: The Wollongong Group (East Coast Operations)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 11:55:07 GMT

In <1992Sep9.222549.29805@athena.cs.uga.edu> weinri@athena.cs.uga.edu (Kevin Weinrich) writes:

>Any of you folks ever have weird things going on with your Sun
>Calendar Manager?  Sometime recently mine started to go flaky
>on me -- when I double-click on a day, it brings up the *previous*
>day.  If I set an appointment, it schedules it for a different time
>(this last time, I set it for 6 p.m., it showed up at 1 p.m.).
>I assume it's always off by this much now.  Oh, yeah, standing
>appointments that I had set up months ago were moved a set amount
>of time, too.

The same thing happened to me several months ago. I'm using SunOs
4.1.1, X11R5 patchlevel 17, and cm from OW3. I tried restarting
rpc.cmsd, running it without any X resources defined, and several
other scenarios with no luck. I finally gave up. If you find the
answer please post it.

-- 
Skip Koppenhaver
skip@eco.twg.com
From: nrp@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk ("Eminent glove lips" Neilski)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: PC-NFS and subnetting
Date: 11 Sep 92 09:46:53 GMT
Reply-To: nrp@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: University of Reading

Well, I've found a solution to the problems I was having a few weeks ago
with PC-NFS.  It's nothing to do with the boards (as far as I can tell).

Quick summary: we have a mixture of Dell and Packard-Bell 386's which we're
trying to network using PC-NFS 4.0, using a Sun 3/50 as the server.  A few
weeks ago I asked why my PC appeared to ping hosts before the
memory-resident part of PC-NFS was installed.  In fact, the ping was
"successful" even if the PC had no ethernet cable connected.

The problem is subnetting.  In the CS department here we have a number of
subnets and we would like to network our PC lab on one of these subnets.
But it doesn't work - the PC doesn't get any traffic.  We've put the PCs on
the backbone for now which isn't a very elegant solution, especially since
my office is still on the subnet which makes the PCs difficult to
administer.

Has anyone out there successfully networked PCs with PC-NFS on a subnet?
Did you get the same problems that I did?  How did you get it working?

Cheers,

-- neilski

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: how to connect a modem to a Sun SPARCstation?
From: marcello@deis21.cineca.it (Marcello Dalpasso)
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:34:43 +0100
Distribution: world
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Computer Science & Systems, Univ. of Bologna, Italy


Hi netters,

I'm wondering about connecting a modem to my Sun SPARCstation 1+ (SunOS 4.1.1)
via its serial port.

In particular, I would get the following situation:

1) At home, call the Sun from my PC via kermit and my modem.
2) The modem connected to the Sun replies (it has the auto-answer facility)
3) The Sun offers the login prompt
4) I login into my Sun account
5) I start a program (or a shell-script) such that:
 a) I can hang up at home
 b) In a few seconds, the Sun dials my home phone number
 c) My PC replies to the incoming call and gets a login prompt by the Sun.

Is this procedure possible?
I think so, but I cannot figure out which setup to perform on my Sun and which
software (Public Domain...) I must use.

Any solution is welcome, even partial.
Please reply by e-mail, and I will post a summary.

Thanks in advance.

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	D.E.I.S. - Department of Electronics, Computer Science and Systems
	Viale Risorgimento 2, I-40136 Bologna, Italy			
	Phone: +39-51-644-3015 (fax: +39-51-644-3073)
From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Mathematica on SPARC?
Date: 6 Sep 92 15:11:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC

In article <1992Sep4.194843.4427@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz) writes:

>I am sure that Mathematica is available for SPARCs, but is
>it the best manipulator for this platform? On the NeXT Mathematica
>uses a 'notebook' interface which is quite nice, but I do not
>believe this is available on Sun's machines.
>
>Is there a better manipulator (such as Maple, MathCAD etc) for 
>Open Windows 3 or Solaris?                             

Eric,

  MathCAD has a slightly better than command line interface, but
significantly fewer functions and less capability.  Both Maple and
Mathematica only have command-line interfaces on generic UNIX machines
(SPARC, PA-RISC, whatever).  

  However, you can use the Mathematica "Notebook" front end of a NeXT
or Macintosh and the more powerful backend Mathematica "compute engine"
running on a SPARC/PA-RISC/etc system over a network as if it were a
single system.  I plan to do this myself.  Wolfram Research fully
supports (and designed in) support for this mode of operation.

Ran
atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil


Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: djc@aps.anl.gov (Dan Ciarlette, Diagnostics)
Subject: Re: My Sun calendar man. went flaky - why?
Reply-To: djc@aps.anl.gov
Organization: Argonne National Lab -- APS
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:10:53 GMT

We had a similar problem here when I tried to use calendar manager under the VUE
(Motif like) environment.  It turned out to be a time zone problem.

Dan.
From: gamin@ireq-robot.hydro.qc.ca (Martin Boyer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: My Sun calendar man. went flaky - why?
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:24:50 GMT
Organization: Le laboratoire de robotique de l'Institut de recherche
	d'Hydro-Quebec

>>>>> Kevin Weinrich writes:

>when I double-click on a day, it brings up the *previous*
>day.  If I set an appointment, it schedules it for a different time
>(this last time, I set it for 6 p.m., it showed up at 1 p.m.).

That's a bug in cm.  Here's an excerpt from a message I saved a while
ago:

>From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
>Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
>Subject: Re: SUN Calendar Manager
>Date: 22 Apr 92 23:59:53 GMT
>Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara
>
>>after all, it no longer
>>stupidly requires the kernel's notion of the time zone to be set, as of
>>OW 3.0, as far as I know.)
>
>	To have made it depend on the kernel's notion of the time zone
>	in one release is a misfortune; to have done it in two releases
>	seems more like carelessness.
>
>			-- not Lady Bracknell (with apologies to Oscar
>			   Wilde)
>
>Well, I guess I was wrong.  Somebody in "comp.sys.sun.apps" said that
>the OW 3.0 CM didn't work right until they ran "tzsetup".  I tried it
>out by running a small program to set the kernel's notion of the current
>time zone to a GMT offset of 0, and a DST type of DST_NONE, *without*
>changing the *system's* notion of the current time zone (i.e.,
>"/usr/share/lib/zoneinfo" still pointed to
>"/usr/share/lib/zoneinfo/US/Pacific"), and fired up the OW 3.0 "cm"
>(which then fired up "rpc.cmsd", which wasn't running prior to that).
>
>Surprise surprise, it was massively confused, but when I killed 'em both
>off, ran "tzsetup", and re-started "cm", it was happier.

The problem, then, is that cm uses antiquated function calls.
The work-around is to run tzsetup to tell your kernel to support those
function calls.

On a broader scale, the problem is with Sun's software quality
assurance.

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From: atkinson@itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: My Sun calendar man. went flaky - why?
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:14:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Naval Research Laboratory, DC

In article <14568@auspex-gw.auspex.com> guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris) writes:
>
>In particular, it's Sun's Calendar Manager that has the broken time zone
>stuff; it uses the crufty old obsolete kernel time zone stuff rather
>than correctly using routines such as "timelocal()" or "mktime()".

Guy is right, of course.  What is absolutely pitiful is that SUN has been
told about this problem and been told how to do it correctly and SUN just
hasn't implemented the fix yet.  (Yes, I'm in a grumpy mood -- trying to
port software to a new UNIX box with a horrid kernel and lots of missing
pieces and parts will do that to me; vendor omitted to protect the very
guilty).
From: jpd@discovery.msu.edu (Joe P. DeCello)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Problems with WP 5.0!! WP 5.1 how much bett
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:59:33 GMT
Reply-To: jpd@discovery.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University

In Word Perfect 5.1 You can indeed cut and paste between Your WP
Doc and text in a Shelltool.  I just did it Wednesday.  This, of
course didn`t work in 5.1.
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From: matthew@sunpix.East.Sun.COM (Matthew Stier - Sun NC Development Center)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Backup Copilot tape library screws up
Date: 15 Sep 1992 14:53:22 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Research Triangle Park, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: rccola.east.sun.com
Keywords: backup copilot tape library sun


This is a problem even I have complained to "the powers that be" about.
(Backup Copilot needs a time option to go with the -n option)

My work around?  This simple script. I have cron mail me the output, study
that output, and put in the tape that I think it will want at backup time.

#! /bin/sh
# Get hostname from command-line, default to `/usr/bin/hostname`.
hostname=${1-`/usr/bin/hostname`}
# Specify dumpex's command-line
dumpex="/usr/etc/dumpex -n ${hostname}"
# Specify dumptm's command-line
dumptm="/usr/etc/dumptm -C ${hostname} -l "
# Specify sort's command-line (sort by year(6), month(3), day(4), time(5))
sort="/usr/bin/sort +6 +3M +4 -5"
# Specify echo's command-line
echo="/usr/bin/echo"
# Run dumpex, scroll a line, run dumptm and sort the result.
${dumpex}; ${echo}; ${dumptm} | ${sort} 


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: jdell@zenobia.mit.edu (John Ellithorpe)
Subject: Re: Help me tar kermit.tar.z !
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:57:03 GMT

On 12 Sep 92 16:07:00 GMT, sunjay@draco.rutgers.edu said:
> I thank everyone who responded to my question on where to find Kermit for SUN
> I successfully downloaded the files from various sources but having problem 
> when i try to run tar.
>
> Question ?   What does the z stand for in kermit.tar.z ?
> 	     What parameters do I use with tar to extract this file ?  
>
> [..deleted..]

The .Z usually means that the file, in this case kermit.tar, has been
compressed.  So you must uncompress the file before you can extract the
contents of the tar file:

	% uncompress kermit.tar.Z

which then give you the file, kermit.tar.  Now you can extract the contents
of the tar file.

	% tar xvf kermit.tar

and away you go, into the world of kermit.  Hope this helps,

John
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: bryant@ced.utah.edu (Bryant Eastham,MEB 3116,581-5353)
Subject: Re: My Sun calendar man. went flaky - why?
Keywords: cm
Reply-To: bryant@ced.utah.edu
Organization: Center for Engineering Design
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 14:50:57 GMT

The same thing has happened to me a number of times - but I know why.
The problem has to do with the call "tzsetup" in the boot file
rc.local. It seems to me that it needs a file in /usr, which may not
be mounted at the time the command is run. The command then fails
and the time zone does not get set right.

For some reason if you run cm with the timezone set wrong, it graciously
rewrites your callog.<user> file with "correct" information, introducing
an offset to all appointment times. This also messes up one of the
internal routines to cm, making it select the wrong day when you click
on a date in the month view. The whole problem is the call to tzsetup.

Since I am the administrator at my site, I know that when our calendar host
machine reboots that I need to *log in as root* and run the command
tzsetup. Unfortunately I forgot this last Saturday when I rebooted and
now my calendar thinks I live in England. Maybe I should just move. :^(

I with that Sun would get the message on this one. I (and others here) have
resigned ourselves to making DAILY backups of our calendar log files to
our home partitions to make retrieving them easy. I am currently working on
a program called cm_shift, which "shifts" all appointments by a given
amount - fixing the problem after the damage is done.

If anyone knows more about this problem, please post. Wouldn't it just be
*great* if Sun would put out a partial release just to fix calendar manager
and the other braindead stuff that comes with it (cm_insert, cm_lookup, etc.)?

Until then,
Bryant Eastham
System Manager/Programmer
Center for Engineering Design
University of Utah
bryant@ced.utah.edu
Date:  7 Sep 92 03:20:40 GMT
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Re: Pageview overlays pages of some postscript files
Organization: Computer Sciences of Australia
Reply-To: daves@assip.csasyd.oz.au
From: daves@assip.csasyd.oz.au (David Smart)

In <8372@sirius.ucs.adelaide.edu.au> dclunie@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (David Clunie) writes:

> I use pageview on a sparcstation and have found that many postscript files,
> particularly those that originate from PC or Mac worlds (esp WordPerfect
> I think) display without error, but all the pages are piled on top of
> each other as one signal very black page !

> I had hoped that this behaviour would have disappeared moving from OW2
> to OW3 but sadly it persists ....

> Now I am sure that Sun will say that the postscript files that are a 
> problem are non-standard or something .... that's all very well but
> they print out ok on an Apple LaserWriter.

> I am sure others have come up with this problem ... is there a simple
> filter to get around it ? I perused the code of a "good" and a "bad"
> example and quickly discovered that everything is buried in a morass
> of macros that seems impossible for a non-Postscript-speaking person
> like myself to unravel.

> Does anyone have a simple answer ?

The problem is that PageView uses the %%page command to determine where pages
end.  If there aren't any, it doesn't stop.  This is the wrong behaviour, as the
%%page is specifically a comment (called a "body comment" in the "red book").

The red book indicates that an application that "operates on the structure of a
PostScript page description (to extract page subsets, reverse the order of 
pages, etc.) must pay attention to these boundaries".  IMHO, PageView is
emulating a printer, not an application that extracts page subsets, etc.

It's easy to see why they did it - it makes provision of next/previous
facilities very easy - but it makes the program incompatible with very correct
PostScript.

As for a filter - probably too difficult to create a general filter to do this
(it would have to execute the PostScipt, looking for the page throws, and try
to insert %%page commands in the correct places).  However, it's much easier to
create filters for your favourite PostScript producers - simply get them to
shove %%page commands in after the calls to the appropriate page-throw macros.

Dave

> -- 
> David Clunie (dclunie@itd.adelaide.edu.au)
-- 
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Net: daves@assip.csasyd.oz.au
From: pkn@cs.utexas.edu (Kay Nettle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: word processors
Date: 10 Sep 1992 10:20:37 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: deepthought.cs.utexas.edu

Hi,

	We are currently using Word Perfect on our Suns for the
secretary types to get letters, etc. out.  I was wondering what
everyone else is using?  Is there something better out there?  

Our current setup is that WP is installed on our one sparcstation and
all the people that use WP log into it and have it display on their
3/60s.  Would your favorite word processor kill put a hurt on the
sparcstation if say 4 or 5 people were running it while someone else
was running Wingz on it and some one was working on the console?

I'm trying to come up with really good reasons to get some other
sparcstation in here.

If possible, please reply by mail.

Thanks,
Kay

pkn@tac.harc.edu
From: d3a9jv8@shoes.BELL-ATL.COM (Patel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Using lp for duplex printing!!
Date: 8 Sep 92 17:33:15 GMT
Organization: Bell Atlantic NSI

Has anybody modified lp driver to include duplex printing on laser
printer using -O on the command line. Is there a generic standard
driver or documentation available from printer manufacturers.

I would like to see if something like that is out there!!

Keyur Patel
(215)-466-1144
BELL ATLANTIC
From: sunjay@draco.rutgers.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
Subject: Where to find Kermit for SUN ?
Date: 11 Sep 92 04:39:01 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University RUCS-Newark

Could someone out there help me find Kermit for SparcStation ?  Please e-mail
replies to sunjay@draco.rutgers.edu


sanjay.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.apps
From: wtm@uhura.neoucom.edu (Bill Mayhew)
Subject: Re: Help me tar kermit.tar.z !
Organization: Northeastern Ohio Universities College of Medicine
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:00:34 GMT


Careful about the .z and .Z extensions.

Use, "uncompress kermit.tar," if the file is kermit.tar.Z.

Use, "unpack kermit.tar," if the file is kermit.tar.z.

The compression algorithm is similar, but there are technical
implementation differes slightly.  I believe one  is berkeley
flavor while the other has systemVish roots.


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