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From: gerry@skatter.usask.ca
Subject: Re: NHL News: 2 Referee system being tried out!
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:27:41 GMT

From article <1992Sep28.180224.4609@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, by romano@monolith.bellcore.com (Paul C. Romano):
> 	Saw a blurb in today's USA Today and thought I would throw it 
> out for discussion, especially since I haven't seen any mention of it 
> here. Seems that the NHL is quietly trying out a two-referee system. 
> They tried it last night during an pre-season game (Chicago/St.Louis???)
> with Don Koharski & another official. You still had two linesmen. They
> called 23 penalties, with the "back" referee calling two of them. They had
> one disagreement on a call, which the referee's quietly discussed. Things
> went so well that Supervisor of officials Bryan Lewis is recommending 
> another test of the system ASAP.
> 
> 	I for one am all for the two-referee system. It will eliminate
> alot of the cheap stuff that goes on behind the play, and help the 
> referee's maintain control on the ice. The game is so fast now, IMHO this
> is something that is really overdue in the NHL. What does the rest of the
> net land think??
> 

Your kidding right? No way the NHL has progressed that quickly. Will wonders
never cease? I just hope they keep it up. Only one problem I see. From what
you say it appears there are 2 refs AND 2 linesman, i.e. there's an extra body
out there. Given the size of the ice surface I don't think adding an extra
body to run into is such a hot idea. Especially since refs and linesman don't
seem to try to get out of the way as much as they used to. 

So if they now just get rid of one of the linesman and let the forward ref do
double duty everything should be hunky-dory.

> Paul
> romano@Monolith.bellcore.com
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From: gt1430a@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeff J McCoskey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Bruins/Lightening 10/3
Keywords: Canadian-Russian Rosters
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:10:21 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


	Anyone interested in the pre-season Bruins/Lightening game?
I have two lower level tickets but found out I cannot attend...We
might could negotiate something.  This game is Saturday in Atlanta.
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From: nhmas@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Mark Shneyder)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: CBC. What's up with that?
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:50:52 GMT
Organization: HMS

In article <1992Oct5.153850.7136@cs.rochester.edu> ferguson@cs.rochester.edu (George Ferguson) writes:
>
>It strikes me as kinda sad that CBC isn't showing any games on opening
>day. It's even sadder because ESPN is. What kind of national network
>doesn't cover the opening game of the national pastime? I guess the
>resident Canadians may finally understand what we're talking about
>when they have to go find bars that will show hockey off the
>satellite! At least they won't be competing with college football and
>those godawful sprint cars...
>

On this side of the border, the national pastme might be a factor on
how many people will actually watch the opening night game...
CBS is scheduled to televise Pirates-Braves from Atlanta at 8:35EDT which
will cut into and take some luster away from Flyers-Pens opener on ESPN
which gets 1 hour jump on baseball at 7:35pm. My point is that
eventhough ESPN's debut includes Stanley Cup champs and an upcoming
superstar,the potential audience in the States might be greatly reduced
by a truly boring game of baseball...

-PPV Mark
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From: etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson)
Subject: Re: Opinions, anyone?
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:45:13 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.192053.7018@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs902159@ariel.yorku.ca (DAVID A LISOGURSKI) writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.214633.28949@ncsu.edu> mcanders@eos.ncsu.edu  writes:
>>Isn't Kamensky too old to win the ROY? The age limit is 26.
>>
>>Matt
>
>I'm pretty sure Kamensky is younger at the beginning of this season than
>Belfour was when he was up for ROY.
>
According to the "Inside Hockey Yearbook '93", Valeri Kamensky is born
April 18 1966. This would make Kamensky 26 years old and he would therefor
not be eligible for the Calder trophy.

Ed Belfour is born April 21 1965. When was he up for ROY? 2 years ago, right?
If so, he would've been 25 then, i.e. eligible.

>I have been wrong before, though  
>(like when I pick Montreal to win the Cup every year.
> I'm wrong 1/3 of the time)
>
>--Dave

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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Opening Night!
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:31:40 GMT

In article <92280.152139RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>FROM THE USA TODAY : For the first time in their 26 year history, the
>Pittsburgh Penguins are favored to win the Stanley Cup.  Odds for all teams :
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Pittsburgh     5:1        Buffalo       30:1
>N.Y. Rangers   6:1        Los Angeles   50:1
>Chicago        7:1        Philadelphia  50:1
>Montreal       8:1        Winnipeg      50:1
>Detroit       10:1        Minnesota     50:1
>Boston        12:1        N.Y. Islanders75:1
>Vancouver     15:1        Quebec       100:1
>Edmonton    15:1        Toronto      200:1
>Washington    20:1        Hartford    1000:1
>New Jersey    25:1        San Jose     500,000:1
>St. Louis     25:1        Tampa Bay    750,000:1
>Calgary       30:1        Ottawa      1,000,000:1
>

Winnipeg and Quebec would be pretty good bets...   

Gerald
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From: wu@mdd.comm.mot.com (Philip Wu)
Subject: Re: NHL waiver draft
Keywords: hockey, men's professional
Organization: Motorola - Mobile Data Division; Richmond, BC
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:37:56 GMT

In <1992Oct5.181019.16089@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:

>In article <chrism.718306882@sfu.ca> chrism@fraser.sfu.ca (Chris J. McKee) writes:
>>
>>The sharks would have to put together an unbelievable offer to get Igor
>>to even think about comming back...He's under a 3 year contract to a 
>>team in Switzerland.  They are paying him about $700000/year...and the
>>season in less than half the number of games (I think around 35 games).
>>Oh, did I mention that the $700000 is completely tax free?!?
>>

>But Igor still might want to play "real" hockey at the most competitive
>level...the Canucks let him go because they didn't want to pay the
>necessary transfer fees necessary to resign Larionov...it was not
>because he didn't want to play in the NHL.

>Of the older Soviets...he probably was the one to wanted to play in the
>NHL the most.

Yeah.  I remember him saying that his last remaining goal was to win the
Stanley cup.  He's got Olympic gold medals, World championships, Junior
Championships, etc.  

Not too much of a chance of winning the cup in San Jose within the next
2 or 3 years though.

Phil
From: tourf00@DMI.USherb.CA (Francis Tourillon <Tourfman>)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Shayne Corson
Date: 1 Oct 92 05:26:53 GMT
Organization: U de Sherbrooke -- LIIT adicts - ANS - Ascot Boyz -

In article <BvEp3u.5IH@DMI.USherb.CA> paien00@DMI.USherb.CA (NICOLAS-MAXIME PAIEMENT) writes:
>In article <92272.160147JER108@psuvm.psu.edu> JER108@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>
>>   Where in the depth chart did Corson play last year and who with? Does any
>>one remember his stats?
>
>I know that he played with Montreal but for the stats... do not remember!
>
	Yes, Shane Corson played for the Montreal Canadiens for a couple of
years (i think since the beginnig of his carreer).  I don't know exactly
but he didn't played very well last year.  He scored maybe 20-30 goals.

	The major problem with him is that he is a trouble maker in bars.
In montreal, he's well known for his many fights late at night.

	I think he was hurt and did not played all games last year.

Tourf"not a Corson fan"man

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From: assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: ESPN schedule
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:56:32 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Irvine

In article <Sep29.044710.91649@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU(Michael Burger) writes:

>ESPN has not divulged their full schedule (according to sources, they have
>only determined 11 games so far).  The only notes from the schedule I know
>are that the Flyers are on 3 times in the first ten games and that L.A. has
>been removed from the schedule.


Excuse me for venting here, but I am making an assumption that "L.A. has
been removed from the schedule" most likely because Wayne Gretzky is injured.
I guess ESPN thinks that no one in North America might want to see the Kings
play regardless of whether Wayne is on the team.  Well, I just want to say
that I have been a Kings fan for many, many years (long before Gretzky 
was added to the team) and I will continue to want to watch the Kings
play long after Gretzky is gone.  

And then again, maybe I am being paranoid about their reasoning for
removing L.A. from the schedule . . . Michael, or anyone else, have  
you heard what prompted ESPN to do this?

Kris
kris@fs2.assist.uci.edu

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From: jdh@math.psu.edu (Jeremy D Hall)
Subject: Sick of Pens Argument (was Re: First Female in Hockey)
Organization: Penn State Department of Mathematics
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 01:14:13 GMT

Look, "people":

If you're going to waste precious bandwidth, at least CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE,
or take this to private e-mail.  Those of us who have been following the 
Manon Rheaume thread (much more interesting than Mario Le-Moo  :^) are (I'm
pretty sure) sick of expecting intelligent debate on women in hockey, and 
finding stuff about Lemieux.

Jeremy Hall
Penn State University
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From: farenebt@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Droopy)
Subject: Adirondack hires Joe Patterson
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 21:04:18 GMT

The Adirondack Red Wings announced that they hired former bruiser
Joe Patterson to be the team's assistant coach. Patterson will
replace the position vacated by Glenn Merkosky, who became head
coach of the Sudbury Wolves. Patterson will assist head coach Newell
Brown who took over the team about a month ago.
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From: bo@econ.uoguelph.ca (Bo Wandschneider)
Subject: Stats
Organization: Department of Economics
Keywords: goals, assists, statistics, points
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:10:50 GMT
X-Posted-From: bo.econ.uoguelph.ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

Does anyone know where to download stats during the season (preferably 
somewhere that does not charge)

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From: s5170748@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (THAN LEE)
Subject: Bruins mailing list?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:20:00 GMT

Who's in charge of the Bruins mailing list?  I'd appreciate it if
someone could let me know how to get in touch with them.

Thanks,
Nathaniel Lee
From: mbeadle@gacvx2.gac.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: gretzky retiring?
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:59:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: gacvx2.1992Sep29.155953.1812
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota

I've been reading the posts about "Wayne's back" for about a week
and I would like to ask how many many of you have actually played
with a chronic back injury?  It is not easy to keep playing at all.  
I have not been fond of Gretzky since he left Edmonton, but I will
have a new respect for him if he keeps playing.

Gretzky is not the only one with injuries, as has been pointed out,
and anybody who plays with one should be thanked by teammates 
fans. 

And to the question are back injuries common, I think so.  It seems
to be in the nature of the game.  The way you stand and position you
are in when you get hit just make you prime  for injury.


Mike at Gustavus Adolphus

ps- not all Pens fans are from the east coast, I live in Wisconsin
    (Please no cheese-head comments)
From: cstila@uta.fi (Timo Laitinen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Jarmo Myllys
Date: 5 Oct 92 10:24:54 GMT
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In article <6865@kielouta.fi> cspamy@uta.fi (Pasi Myllym{ki) writes:
>Why super-goalie Jarmo Myllys is nowadays here in Finland (team:KooKoo).
>In my opinion he didn't get change to show how super he is.
>
>Am I absolutely wrong ?
>
>
You are right!!!!! NHL coaches and managers prefer their own goalkeepers
(Canadian or USA). That's why for example Petr Briza, Jaromir Sindel
and Oldrich Svoboda are in SM-LIIGA, Finland - Not in money circus in NHL.

Am I absolutely right?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:04:53 EDT
From: <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: gretzky/hart/ross
Distribution: rec

that's ross and hart trophies - sorry - I made a mistake.

-Rob
From: uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: Olympic Gymnastics Tour
Date: 26 Sep 92 20:50:25 GMT

In <1992Sep24.173727.8964@jcnpc.cmhnet.org> gc3@jcnpc.cmhnet.org (George Cifrancis) writes:


>Kim Z will be in the Gymnastics Spectacular Tour but is not in the Olympic
>tour.  I am going to the Gym Spect. in Indianapolis on Oct 10th.

Could someone please post when these two tours will be in Southern California?
Thanks.


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Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 28 Sep 1992 13:48:34 EDT
From: Charlie Slavin <SLAVIN@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: J. Joyner-Kersee request

Okay folks, another autograph address request.  I'm trying to get an
autograph from this, perhaps the greatest ever, heptathlete.  Does
anyone know how I might go about this?  My step-daughter is an
aspiring sprinter and jumper and her birthday is at the end of the
month.  I'd really like to surprise her with an autograph from
Jackie J-K.  Any ideas, suggestions would be appreciated.

Please email me at Slavin@Maine (Bitnet) or Slavin@Maine.Maine.Edu (internet)

Thanks in advance, Charlie
From: ROCKY@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu (Rocky Essex - University of Florida)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: 1996 Olympic Information -- Atlanta
Date: 30 Sep 92 07:47:50 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, NERDC

Someone asked about getting tickets to the '96 Olympics in Atlanta.
 
Tickets won't go on sale until early 1995.  Until then you
can write for a brochure about the Atlanta games at:
 
 
     Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games
     Box 1996
     Atlanta, GA  30301
 
Atlanta Committee For the Olympic Games:
250 Williams Street NW, Atlanta.....................(404)224-1996
Merchandising.......................................(404)224-1980
General Info........................................(404)224-1816
Retail Store........................................(404)658-1996
 
I have not verified these numbers so good luck.
 
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From: st1pj@rosie.uh.edu (Saucedo, Delfino B.)
Subject: Re: Olympic Gymnastics Tour
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 18:31:00 GMT

In article <19l6o7INN78i@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, doreen@parrot.WPI.EDU (Doreen Judith Burrell) writes...
>Well, I know that they will be at the Centrum in Worcester, MA. on Sept. 27th
>starting at 2:00pm...I work there,but I haven't heard if Kim Zmeskal will be
>there....I too will be disappointed if she is not there. I think she got
>shafted in the olympics as far as interviewing after her fall. 
>Anyways, I don't see her name on anything,but it says therewill be guest appearances..including Kurt Thomas,etc.  SO Cross your fingers!
> 
>WEll, that's all
>:)
> 
>Doreen
> 
I've heard Shannon Miller will be in San Antonio sometime in Oct. too.
Is this a part of a tour - if so do you know who else will be there?

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From: bcperry@eos.ncsu.edu (BRENT COLE PERRY)
Subject: Wrestling
Originator: bcperry@c00519-118rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: bcperry@eos.ncsu.edu (BRENT COLE PERRY)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:27:00 GMT


The only newsgroup devoted to wrestling is rec.sport.pro-wrestling, and I 
don't think that they could answer my question, so I decided this would be 
the next best thing.  I had heard that the 1992-'93 NCAA wrestling 
championships were going to be at the Dean E. Smith Center in Chapel Hill,
NC.  If anyone knows for a fact, please e-mail me.

Thanks in advance,
--Brent

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From: ROCKY@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu (Rocky Essex - University of Florida)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Re: atlanta games 1996
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:42:57 GMT
Organization: University of Florida, NERDC

In article <ButAMo.MFw@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen) writes:
 
>eabg011@orion.oac.uci.edu (Rene Franz Chun) writes:
>
>>Does anyone have the address to the Atlanta Olympic Games
>>Organizing Committee?
>
>>I was planning to inquire if they have a catalog for 1996
>>Games memorabilia (buttons, pennant, stickers, t-shirts, etc...)
>
>I don't have the address but if you attain this information, could
>you post it please?
Someone asked about getting tickets to the '96 Olympics in Atlanta.
From the San Jose Mercury News:
 
Tickets won't go on sale until early 1995.  Until then you
can write for a brochure about the Atlanta games at:
 
     Atlanta Committee for the Olympic Games
     Box 1996
     Atlanta, GA  30301
 
 
douge@antares.tymnet.com
From: ABANKS1@ua1vm.ua.edu (Al Banks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: fencing
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:00:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: ua1vm.16872EF25.ABANKS1
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa


 On the fencing group,
    I think that it should be rec.sport.fencing (mainly to keep fencing in
 the name).  I have read several postings, both here and in
 rec.sport.martial-art about fencing, so I think the traffic would be
 enough............just my $0.02......Al
 
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From: desjarly@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Desjardins Lyne)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: Table Tennis : Results
Date: 26 Sep 92 15:09:53 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hello !

Here are the results for the 1992 World University Championships (TABLE TENNIS)
Lyon, France (Sept 14-20)

Men's Team
----------
1. France
2. Korea

Women's Team
------------
1. Unified Team
2. Romania

Men's Singles
-------------
1. Damien Eloi (France)
2. Patrick Chila (France)
3-4. Nicolas Chatelain (France) & Matthew Syed (Great Britain)

Women's Singles
---------------
1. Ciosu (Romania)
2. Palina (Unified Team)
3-4. Melnik (UT) & Yquel (France)

Men's Doubles
-------------
1. Chila/Chatelain (France)
2. Lee/Cho (Korea)

Women's Doubles
---------------
1. Melnik/Palina (UT)
2. Ciosu/Nastase (Romania)

---------------------------------------------------

In Karlsruhe, Germany, Jan-Ove Waldner, the Olympic champion, won the
1st tournament of the year ($32 000.00 US). Here are the results:

1. Jan-Ove Waldner
2. Jean-Michel Saive
3-4. Lindh & Persson
5-8. Chenxinhua, Appelgren, Grubba & Primorac.

That's it for now !

Bye !

Lyne

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From: ea47916@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Eric Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.misc
Subject: How far away to stand playing darts?
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:43:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvF0K9.5n4
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I'm sure this is a major sized FAQ but I'm sitting here and need to know how
far away from the dartboard to stand "officially".  

Thanx in advance,

Eric 

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