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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 92 14:04:00 PST
From:         "A. Mahendra Rajah,
              System Manager" <MAHENDRA@MEENA.CC.UREGINA.CA>
Subject:      PMDF.CNF for a 2node hetero cluster.
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From:   MEENA::MAHENDRA     "A. Mahendra Rajah, System Manager"  5-APR-1992 15:2
   4:36.62
To:     IN%"SERVICE@YMIR.CLAREMONT.EDU"
CC:     MAHENDRA
Subj:   PMDF.CNF for a 2node hetero cluster.

Hello:

   We now have the licenses to run PMDF on two nodes (say A and B) of our
   cluster. Since the SYSUAF and VMSMAIL_PROFILE_DATA files reside in
   each node's Sys$specific directory, these are heterogeneous clusters,
   right?? Node A runs Jnet and has Mail$Batch executing in it. Node B
   is not licensed for Jnet. Both nodes are on Internet running
   MultiNet.

   Now, I want to

   (1)  run just one copy of PMDF, and
   (2)  allow user's on node B to use the IN% contruct to send and
        receive Internet/Bitnet mail,

   Should I be using TWO different PMDF.CNF files, one for each node, so
   that I can specify the right name for the local host on the L
   channel?? Is there a better way - must be - but my finicky brain
   cannot see it through. Please help.

   Thanks.

   -- mahendra (A. Mahendra Rajah :: Mahendra @ Meena.CC.URegina.CA)
      System Manager, Dept of Computing Services, University of Regina,
      Regina, Sask., Canada.
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 92 09:01:00 PST
From:         Gerson H Cohen <GHC@NIHKLMB>
Subject:      Open file quota problem
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I have just been informed about a problem relating to the open file
quota which has been occuring recently on this machine.  A user was
doing a repl/edit/extr on a 100 line mail message and tried to spawn
out of the editor (TPU) to go into mail a second time in order to
examine a second message.  He was unable to select a folder or do
anything useful in mail, getting an acp quota error which appears to
be related to the fact that he was left with a quota of only 5.  We
start with 20 and by the time mail is up and going, replying to an
internet message, we are usually left with 5 to 7 as a file limit.
I checked the open files (show dev/fi) on the drives most likely to
be involved and the quota reported is pretty close to what I would
calculate from the investigation.  Some 3 to 5 files relate to
shareable images which pmdf is pulling in, some are data files and I
can accept that. The question is what do others find as an
acceptable limit on the open files.  As a temporary measure I have
raised the limit to 30, but I am only shooting in the dark.  BTW -
we are using a subprocess quota of 2, pmdf 4.0 and vms 5.3-1.

Gerson Cohen
ghc@vger.niddk.nih.gov
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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 92 11:09:00 PST
From:         "Kevin V. Carosso" <KVC@INNOSOFT.COM>
Subject:      Error 114 in ERR_MTCP_LOCAL_SLAVE.LOG
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> One site is sending me the same message over and over each each
> half hour. My host is not returning any mail that would
> perpetuate this loop. The SMTP log (bottom) seems OK to me. For
> each occurrence an ERR_MTCP_LOCAL_SLAVE.LOG files is generated
> containing:
>
> RCVD will 114 (reply)
> SENT dont 114 (reply)
> os_smtp_read: Returning with nothing.
>
> It seems the sending site is not removing it's queue entry
> but I would appreciate further details of the above messages.

The "RCVD will 114" and "SENT dont 114" are the PMDF SMTP server logging the
fact the TELNET options negotiation (specifically SUPPRESS-GO-AHEAD) was
received by the client and responded to by the PMDF SMTP server.  While
unusual, it doesn't indicate an error.  I'm a little surprised that the
other end generated such a thing, I suspect that this ERR_TCP_LOCAL_SLAVE.LOG
may be from an SMTP server created in response to a TELNET into your port
25.  I do that myself when debugging SMTP problems.  The "Returning with
nothing" is likely due to the other end hanging up -- again consistent with
a human TELNET to your SMTP port.

> Contents of MTCP_LOCAL_SLAVE.LOG
> ===========================================================================
> Sending    : "220 GW.AGR.CA -- Server SMTP (PMDF#12190 V4.0)".
> Received   : "Helo HPB.HWC.CA".
> Sending    : "250 GW.AGR.CA".
> Received   : "MAIL FROM:<JSTALKER@HPB.HWC.CA>".
> Sending    : "250 Address OK.".
> Received   : "RCPT TO:<WILDER@NSRSKE.AGR.CA>".
> Sending    : "250 WILDER@NSRSKE.AGR.CA OK.".
> Received   : "DATA".
> Sending    : "354 Enter mail, end with a single ".".".
> Received      : ... 19 lines message body...
> Sending    : "250 Ok.".

This log indicates that the PMDF SMTP server accepted the message, the other
side should have deleted it from its queue.  I don't know why it is
continuing to send the same message to you.  I determined that HPB.HWC.CA
is running the TGV MultiNet SMTP server, so I've cc'ed the MultiNet
folks on this response in hopes that they can comment on what their
client might be doing.

Are you sure that the ERR_MTCP_LOCAL_SLAVE.LOG is being created for each of
these SMTP dialogs?  It does seem unusual, but perhaps the MultiNet SMTP
client always sends TELNET options?  Strange, but (other than logging them)
the PMDF server should not do anything unusual when it sees them.

        /Kevin Carosso
         Innosoft
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 92 13:55:00 PST
From:         Robin Goldstone <robin_goldstone@MACGATE.CSUCHICO.EDU>
Subject:      sendhead keyword (again)
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.pmdf-l

I just installed PMDF 4.0 and I cannot get the 'sendhead' keyword to work.
Someone else posted this problem a few months ago but I never saw a resolution.
 Sendhead should cause the copy of returned mail sent to Postmaster to not
contain the original message body.  But it does not work.  I (postmaster) still
get the whole message.

I have sendhead on the local channel and also my ctcp channel.  Here is the
relevant part of pmdf.cnf:

l 822 bidirectional logging headeromit sendhead notices 1 2
oavax.csuchico.edu

ctcp_local single_sys smtp mx logging sendhead notices 1 2
CTCP-DAEMON

Does anyone know what my problem might be?

Robin Goldstone, CSU Chico
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 92 15:03:00 PST
From:         "Ned Freed, Postmaster" <NED@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: sendhead keyword (again)
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sendhead only works when messages are returned because they have been sitting
in the queue too long. It does not apply to postmaster copies generated by
SMTP delivery failures and other such stuff.

I hope to relax this restriction in a future release of PMDF, but that's the
way it is for now.

                                Ned
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 92 11:29:00 PST
From:         "Daniel C. Newman" <DAN@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: How do you throw away mail messages.
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> I know this was discussed a couple months back so I tried to look at the
> archieved listings but it seems they are not available.
> What is the preferred way to divert an incoming piece of mail to the
> "bit bucket".  That is, I want to throw away all mail messages from a specific
> user@node. I am running vms v5.4-2 and pmdf v4.0-11.

Just set up a forwarding address to the bitbucket channel for that user.
To add a bitbucket channel to your PMDF.CNF file, just make a domain
name for the channel recognized; e.g.,

   bitbucket                       $u@bitbucket.ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
   bitbucket.ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu  $u@bitbucket.ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu

and then add the channel itself to then end of the PMDF.CNF file:


   <blank line>
   bitbucket
   bitbucket.ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu

Dan
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 92 05:04:00 PST
From:         "Ned Freed, Postmaster" <NED@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: PMDF 3.2 and TWG TCP?IP don't like each other.
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> I brought up Win TCP/IP version 5.2 and tried to compile the PMDF 3.2
> Wollongong drivers which failed.  I brought over the old libraries from 5.1
> but they won't compile either.

You might try running the original programs. Since they are not linked against
any shareable image there should be no real problem running them.

I don't understand why the old libraries would not work. They worked before;
something must have changed.

> I changed the command procedure to use the TWGLIB library instead of LIBNET
> and LIBNETACC but that produced a tiff with some incompatible symbols which
> I hacked by declaring RES and H_ERROR noshare and by changing the function
> call DN_SKIP to DN_SKIPNAME.  Now it compiles but it crashes somewhere in
> gethostbyname().

The arguments to DN_SKIP and DN_SKIPNAME are not the same. I hope you paid
attention to this detail.

A crash in gethostbyname sounds a lot like an old Wollongong bug. I have not
seen it in V5.2; it sounds like you're running with old and buggy libraries
if this is happening.

> Where have I gone wrong?  Will this ever compile or should I quit now?  I
> don't think the boss will be too impressed if I tell him I want a cool
> thousand dollars for PMDF 4.0.

We don't support PMDF V3.2 except to upgrade; the advice I've offered above
is just friendly advice and nothing more. We went to some trouble in PMDF V4.0
to make it compatible with Wollongong V5.2; the changes in the TCP support
were fairly substantial overall.

I cannot speak to your price issues in this forum, but I think you might want
to send mail to sales@innosoft.com before quoting numbers.

                                Ned
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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 92 00:17:00 PST
From:         "Ned Freed, Postmaster" <NED@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Word Perfect/All-in-1 sending PMDF messages
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> We have All-in-1 and now Word Perfect for All-in-1. We installed the Message
> Router software for Word Perfect (to do conversions) but it does not do them
> for PMDF messages. Thus we get postmaster failures on Word Perfect documents
> sent from All-in-1 to PMDF-MR.

Unless Word Perfect did something egregiously wrong I don't see any
reason for you to get postmaster messages out of all this. PMDF-MR is
capable of dealing with any legal Message Router message. There are no
exceptions; it is a closed set of things to deal with. You may end up
with a lot of encoded gabble in your messages when PMDF runs into
something it does not know how to convert, but there should never ever
be any failures unless the address on the message is just plain wrong
(and this applies regardless of whether or not you use Word Perfect).

My understanding is that Word Perfect provides some sort of Message
Router mailbox that converts the body parts that are in Word Perfect
format into ASCII for you. Thus, in order to get the conversion, you'd
use an address like this:

    user@internet-host@pmdf@wpconverter

instead of the usual:

    user@internet-host@pmdf

You could of course do something clever like change the name of the PMDF
mailbox and use MRMAN to make the old name translate to a route that
passes through the converter automatically.

We'd also like to support calling the converter directly, but in order
to do that we would have to know how Word Perfect puts its material in a
Message Router bodypart and how to take that stuff and put it in a file
a converter could use. We don't have this information at present. If you
or Word Perfect could provide it I'd be happy to see what I can do to
make the conversion more automatic. Some sample messages and the
corresponding Word Perfect documents might be enough to figure it out,
although I have looked at a couple of Word Perfect encoded objects and I
was not able to make much sense out of them. This may have been more the
fault of the examples I had available than anything else, but there's no
way to be sure without looking at a few more.

> Is there a cure? Did we configure something wrong? Is there another piece of
> software we need to buy?

It sounds to me like you're addressing things wrong. That's the only
thing I can think of that would cause an error message to be sent to the
postmaster. If this is not what's happening then there must be a big bug
somewhere, and I doubt if it is in PMDF-MR.

                                        Ned
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 92 10:31:00 PST
From:         "Mike Sullenberger (415) 926-2294" <mls@SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Open file quota problem
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>The question is what do others find as an
>acceptable limit on the open files.  As a temporary measure I have
>raised the limit to 30, but I am only shooting in the dark.  BTW -
>we are using a subprocess quota of 2, pmdf 4.0 and vms 5.3-1.

I don't know your situation, but here where we use X-windows alot we have
increased FILLM to 100.

Mike Sullenberger
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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 92 18:53:00 EST
From:         MIKE WILDER <MWILDER@FRMNVAX1>
Subject:      SET FORW for Deliver
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I know this is probably a very simple question to answer and I'm probably
overlooking the solution, but...

In setting up a user for DELIVER, the manual for PMDF 4.0 says to

                SET FORWARD IN%"~username"

and mail will then be processed by DELIVER according to the rules defined by
SYS$LOGIN:MAIL.DELIVERY.  Well I've got MAIL.DELIVERY set up the way I want it
but I can't seem to get the FORWARD set correctly.  Everytime I try to address
mail to the user, I get the message that IN%~username is an invalid address.
I've tried various combinations of single and double quotes to no avail.

What am I doing wrong?  Your help is most appreciated.


____________________________________________________________________________
Mike Wilder
Postmaster, TechRep
Furman University Computer Center
Greenville, SC
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From:         "J.Lance Wilkinson, (814) 865-1818" <JLW@PSULIAS>
Subject:      PMDF v4.1 Schedule
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I've noticed a lot of "4.1 will do that" comments the past couple of weeks, but
I haven't seen any notice of the progress of v4.1 testing and its schedule for
general release.  Would somebody care to shed some light on it?  Thanks in
advance.
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From:         PETER@EMBL-HAMBURG.DE
Subject:      signoff formula for the list (sigh)
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Vern Cole tells us:
  > I appear to have forgotton or misplaced the formula for signing off from
  > this mailing list.

I thought it was RPMDF @    ymir.bitnet .OR. ymir.claremont.edu

but I have requested a change of address to the second version _three_ times
  now without any change.
  (I'm now trying to turn off my X400 which only carries its own admin traffic!)

How about a PMDF_COMMENTS line just for the IPMDF mail headers giving the
  registration address? The facility might be good for other newsletter lists,
  too. I can think of a couple here in house.
  (Would also be useful for System Managers fielding "gone-away" users mail.)

regards
Peter Bendall
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 92 14:37:00 PST
From:         "Daniel C. Newman" <DAN@HMCVAX.CLAREMONT.EDU>
Subject:      RE: PMDF 4.0 install
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> I want to install PMDF 4.0 in parallel to my existing installation of PMDF 3.2
   .
>  According to the PMDF 4.0 documentation, section 1.4.1, I need to shut down m
   y
> existing PMDF and preferrably my entire TCP/IP network prior to installing 4.0
   .
>  Is this still necessary if I am doing a parallel installation?  If I tell the
> install procedure to not run PMDF_STARTUP.COM after the installation, shouldn'
   t
> I be able to do the install 4.0 on my running system without disrupting
> anything?

Yes, if you just install it and do not let it run PMDF_STARTUP.COM then
everything should be okay.  Things to watch out for are:

  (1) The install will overwrite your existing sys$startup:pmdf_startup.com
      file.  So, you'll want to somehow protect your 3.2 startup file from
      getting lost in the process.

  (2) Be sure that you tell the install procedure the correct UIC for your
      PMDF account (should it ask).  By correct, I mean the same UIC that
      your 3.2 PMDF account uses.  (Unfortunately, the installation procedure
      cannot determine this on its own owing to limitations in the VMSINSTAL
      environment.)

  (3) When you decide to cut over to 4.0, you're probably best off rebooting.
      There is well-known problem with VMS INSTALL that causes problems when
      you replace an installed image with another image that lives in a
      different directory tree.  You can get around this by either (a)
      rebooting, or (b) INSTALL DELETEing the 3.2 PMDF images before
      INSTALLing the 4.0 PMDF images.

> Also, how do I get MAILSERV?  I was told that it is an install-time option.
> Where in the installation process do I specify that I want MAILSERV?

Ask for the optional, unsupported utilities (e.g., CMDF, MFTU,...).  The
MAILSERV stuff will end up in the directory PMDF_ROOT:[SRC.MAILSERV].

Dan
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 92 07:00:00 PST
From:         "Zvonko Orsolic, University of Belgrade" <ZVONKO@YUBGEF51>
Subject:      TGV address?
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I am searching for e-mail address and fax number of TGV Incorporated.
If TGV doesn't exist any more, I need the same information for the
current manufacturer of "Multinet".

According to the papers I have, Multinet info and orderings should be
maintained by <service@tgv.com>. Unfortunately, the only answer from
that address is

> 550 Host 'tgv.com' Unknown

What happened to TGV?

Regards

Zvonko Orsolic
University of Belgrade
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 92 12:27:00 PST
From:         "Daniel C. Newman" <DAN@INNOSOFT.COM>
Subject:      RE: PMDF.CNF for a 2node hetero cluster.
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>
>   We now have the license to run PMDF on two nodes (say A and B) of our
>   cluster. Since the SYSUAF and VMSMAIL_PROFILE_DATA files reside in
>   each node's Sys$specific directory, these are heterogeneous clusters,
>   right?? Node A runs Jnet and has Mail$Batch executing in it. Node B
>   is not licensed for Jnet. Both nodes are on Internet running
>   MultiNet.
>
>   I want to
>
>   (1)  run just one copy of PMDF, and

Sorry, this just won't work for you.

>   (2)  allow user's on node B to use the IN% contruct to send and
>        receive Internet/Bitnet mail,
>
>   Should I be using TWO different PMDF.CNF files, one for each node, so
>   that I can specify the right name for the local host on the L
>   channel?? Is there a better way - must be - but my finicky brain
>   cannot see it through. Please help.

Well, you have to treat these two systems as though they are entirely separate
systems and use entirely different PMDF directory trees, with separate
MAIL$BATCH queues on each system.  All of this difficulty is caused by your
specific SYSUAF's and VMSMAIL_PROFILE_DATAs which cause you to require a
distinct local channel (and PMDF_ROOT:[QUEUE.L] directories) for each system.

Install PMDF separately on each system.  On the system not running Jnet, do
not configure it to use BITNET but instead use the files

     pmdf_root:[table]gateway.rules
     pmdf_root:[table]bgateway.rules

produced by executing pmdf_root:[table]bitnet_domains_driver.com on the Jnet
system.  Copy these files to pmdf_root:[table] on the non Jnet system and
include them in the rewrite rules section of pmdf_root:[table]pmdf.cnf:

    <pmdf_root:[table]gateway.rules
    <pmdf_root:[table]bgateway.rules

You can use your TCP/IP network to route mail between the two systems.

Dan
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