From: sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu (M. Sundaramoorthy)
Subject: Re: Tastelessness or shear hypocracy
Newsgroups: soc.culture.tamil
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:27:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.232059.10916@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:
>In article <6923@stan.xx.swin.oz.au> sri@stan.xx.swin.oz.au (SRITHARAN K) writes:
>>In <1992Aug28.142052.24534@engage.pko.dec.com> thiyagarajan@mims.enet.dec.com (RT) writes:
>>
>>>I agree with most of the things you said. I think that the spread of
>>>gun-culture in otherwise peaceful TN is because of sl-tamil-terrorists and its
>>>sympathizers. If anyone wants to have proof on this, check the old newspapers
>>>from Madras and from Trichy
>>
>>>RT
>>
>>
>>It wouldn't have happened if you people and your goverments haven't
>>supported in the first place for their own benifits.
>>
>>We are not "Weanda Penndati".  Because of your lack of foresight (govt's)
>>we are going through all the miseries now.
>>
>>To change colour we are not patchontikal.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Sri
>
>I agree that India did a big blunder in the form of IPKF. But 
>the above statement from Sri is really irritating. You wanted 
>Indian Govt and Indian people support right from the beginning 
>of the problem. Did'nt the tamils in SL and the LTTE kept on
>requesting Indian tamils (with all dialogues like please help
>your brothers and sisters  etc... which was not said before that
>and it was always said by the people in SL that they have nothing to 
>do with Indian tamils) to help them and support them ? How many
>strikes and processions the Indian tamil students would have conducted
>against the Indian govt. to support you ?? Think about that too.
>Now you say that its because of Indian tamils that SL tamils are
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>suffering now. Think before posting. I agree that what Indian 
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>govt. did in the form of IPKF cannot be forgotton and cannot be
>pardoned. But what did the Indian tamils do to you people till
>IPKF problem. Did not we support whole heartedly. Did not we
>allow suffering SL tamils inside Tamil Nadu. Did not you enjoy our
>support to LTTE and SL tamils??? Why did not you people raise voice
>against the Indian tamils when they were blindly supporting for
>the cause of SL tamils before the IPKF intervention ?? Did not 
>the Indian tamils raise voice against IPKF when it was committing 
>crimes in SL against the SL tamil friends.?? I agree that Indian
>politicians like Rajiv, Indira, Karunanithi and MGR used the 
>problem for their own benefits. But how dare you say that Indian
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>tamils used in for their benefits ?? Hmmmm...... What benefit did
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>the Indian tamils get from supporting SL tamils ? Could you site
>any one example?  Leave the stupid politicians. The benefits that
>Indian tamils got are :
>
>1. Thousands of SL tamil refugees in TN 
>2. Several daring murders in TN (example : Padmanaba)
>3. Presence of gun culture in TN
>4. Killing of Rajiv Gandhi
>5. Popularity(??!!!) of tamil all over the world not because of its
>   strong culture, but because of gun culture.
>
>I agree that the above benefits were provided by the Indian Govt.
>and the SL govt. But I am not sure what you mean by if you people !!!!
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>I did take part in lot of processions in support of the cause of
>the SL tamils. Did I do it for my own benefits ?? What benefit did 
>I achieve by doing so ? Did I win any election ?? I took part and
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>supported them only because of THAMIZH. 
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>So, do not pour your words. I would have agreed with you if you had
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>mentioned Indian Govt. and Sri  Lankan Govt. for this problem. But
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>you have mentioned about Indian tamils which is unacceptable. You
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>did not mention anything about your great Sri Lankan Govt. Who was
>the root cause for all these problems ? Indian govt. or Sri Lankan
>Govt? I understand that you will not be against the Sri Lankan govt. 
>because, afterall you are also a Sri Lankan, which cannot be changed
>by force. Ippoe sandaip pottukkuveengae, piraku kattikkuveengal. Its
>logical. 
>
>India should never had intervened in the problem of SL. Indian
>politicians utilised the support of Indian tamils and SL tamils.
>So, the blame should be on all of us for the problems. This is a very
>good lesson for India and its people. I wish and hope that India should
>never intervene in the internal affairs of any country.
>
>Naadu thanayyaa mudhallae mukkiyam. Appuram thaan thamizhan,
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>anna, akka, thangachchi paasam ellaam.

	

AnnE anganga udhaikkudhE!!

	
	But I am not sure what you mean by if you people !!!!
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	Now you say that its because of Indian tamils that SL tamils are
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	suffering now. Think before posting.
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	But how dare you say that Indian
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 	tamils used in for their benefits	
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	But you have mentioned about Indian tamils which is unacceptable
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	Naadu thanayyaa mudhallae mukkiyam. Appuram thaan thamizhan,
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	I took part and supported them only because of THAMIZH.
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	So, do not pour your words
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avaru naalu vaarththai thaanE connaaru. adhukku edhukku ivLo vaarththagaL.


>
>"Thavaru enbathu thavarich cheivathu
> thappu enbathu therinthu seivathu
>
> Thavaru seithavan thirunthap paarkanum
> thappu seithavan varunthi yaaganum"
>
	
	yaarukkannE indha upadhEcam?. namakka? avungaLukka?

>
>Anbudan,

	edhukku anbai ippadi anaavaciyamaa waste paNNanum?

	neenga connadhaiyE thiruppi thiruppi niRaiya pEru collittaanga. 
	pudhusaa Edhaachchum collungaLEn.

>V R Kumar
> 
>-- 
> V.R.Kumar (Ramkumar Venkatachalam)                                 
> CSIRO, Division of Information Technology                         
> P.O.Box:1599, Macquarie Centre, North Ryde, NSW 2113, AUSTRALIA  
>

M. Sundaramoorthy
sundar@indigo1.hsis.uci.edu 
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