HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: dboyd@informix.com (Diana Boyd)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Minimalist biking (was: Re: Dead Sidestand switch
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:29:54 GMT
Reply-To: dboyd@informix.com
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <154dacINNh6@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green -  
Pixel Cruncher) writes:
> 
> I know you're being sarcastic, but there is a complete school of
> thought among motorcyclists that believes exactly that (with the
> possible exception of the turn lights).  They would also remove the
> tach, and the netural indicator, probably the speedometer/odometer if
> legal.
> 

I really like this style. I have a tach on the KL but not on the sportster and  
don't miss it at all. I rode it for months without turn signals (till Chuck  
noticed a hole in my flasher). I got used to it and am now having a hard time  
remembering to hold in that stupid button.

Not a good idea for me to go without the speedometer seeing as how I'm so close  
to losing my license. :-) 

Or the odometer since I only have that 2.2 gal tank.

I only use the horn to beep "goodbye" so I wouldn't miss that.

I *would* miss the throttle locks, but they don't take up much room or take  
away from the styling.

Not much else on my sportster to take off.

Diana

DIANA BOYD	"Walking with the spirit, talking with the spine
EVO Woman	 Mama sing, open up yourself when worlds align."
KLR Woman                                            -C. Whitley
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: macro@cup.hp.com (Patrick MacRoberts)
Subject: Re: Deer Claims Another; Thoughts
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 19:19:19 GMT
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA

% In article <9900936@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) writes:
% [ story of a motorcyclist colliding with a deer and some useful
%    thoughts on emergency equipment ]
%
%    On a different scale, this lady's choice to (a) not wear a
%    helmet and (b) to ride at dusk/dark in deer territory, severely
%    traumatized about 12 people who came to her aid. These
%    individual strangers contributed time, material and emotional
%    energy on her behalf, all because they felt it to be right.
%    (and that the law requires rendering assistance.......)
%
%    When you reject the "cost to society" argument, please remember
%    that you are also spitting in the face of suddenly involved
%    strangers who will be inconvenienced by your decision. They
%    cannot spit back at you as you lie unconscious and bleeding on
%    (or off) the road.
% 
% What kind of TV land do you live in that your priorities are so askew?

What kind of TV land do you live in that you cannot understand what
he's saying?

% How can you say that you are inconvenienced by someone dying that
% requires your help?

Easy: "I'm inconvenienced by someone dying around me and needing my
       help."

Having people die around me is DAMNED inconvenient.  It takes up time
I'd otherwise use doing something less stressful, and probably more
enjoyable.  THINK about it.

% There are not too many things more important than life.  Next time
% your mother/wife/child needs to be rushed to the hospital and you are
% not around you better hope that others don't think like you or at
% least don't spend an hour wondering what the law requires them to do.

Oh, piss off.  Did Ron stop?  Yes.  Did he stay there until the
authorities arrived and gave the injured motorist aid?  Yes.  Did he
have to (by law)?  Only if he's got an emergency vehicle sticker on
his car.

Ron gave the people aid, he didn't "wonder about it."  My guess is
that he did it, not because he was required to by law, but because it
was the RIGHT thing to do.  That doesn't make it ANY less
inconvenient.

Thank you, Ron, for doing the RIGHT(tm) thing.

% Man talk about cold.

Man.  Talk about reading comprehension.

-Patrick
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: Get your feet on the GD pegs.
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 04:32:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.132451.13179@hemlock.cray.com> frankb@willow41.cray.com (Frank Barriuso) writes:
>
>  Someone once told me that the cops have an easy time deciding whether or
>not a motorcycle has come to a complete stop at a stop sign. If the rider
>had to put their feet down to keep from falling over then they did, if not
>then they didn't.  Is there any validity to this?

According to my ERC instructors:

a) There is no validity to this.  They teach a no-touch full stop at ERC.

b) The cops think it's valid, so don't make such a stop when they're looking.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: New Bike Financing Advice Sought.
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:51:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

>noah@astro.as.utexas.edu (Noah Smith) writes:
>: 	ANY COMMENTS AND/OR ADVICE WELCOME (e-mail or Usenet).


Try your local credit union.  The UVA credit union thinks that
bikes are just cars.  Consequently, they finance them just like
cars and at the same rates.  Two weeks ago I was offered 6.99%
for a 24 month note and 8.2% on a 48 month note to purchase a
new Harley.

M Johnson


--
      Michael L. Johnson
      mlj8e@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tale@ten.uu.net (David C Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Katana oil filter -- how special is the tool?
Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc.
	<l795pdINNntp@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
	<l7bfo6INNad9@thunderbird.cs.utexas.edu>
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:36:13 GMT

In <l7bfo6INNad9@thunderbird.cs.utexas.edu> brad@cs.utexas.edu
(Brad Blumenthal) writes:
> By the time I got to 1.75 turns, I was exerting a fair amount
> of body weight against a large socket wrench attached to the Suzuki
> filter wrench.  This was, again IMVHO, nuts.  I don't know what the 
> deal is with the Suzuki manual, but I would not go for 2 full turns.

In nearly 30 000 miles and six oil changes I have always gone the full
two turns on my Katana 1100.  Yeah, it sure is a bitch to do.  It
doesn't appear to break it, though.  It appears that you all are
reporting no problems with just basic tight rather than megatight, so
I'll try that route next time around.  My biggest complaint about the
procedure, aside from needing to do it roughly every two to three
months (yes, six oil changes in about 16 months of ownership), is
getting the damn cap wrench off the old filter.

By the way, my speedometer cable apparently broke at the Right Coast
Ride.  Any other Katana owners have a problem like this?
From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:46:19 GMT
Subject: Re: FJ vs. ZX engine mods
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

Hopefully, for the 1993 model year, the new top-of-the-line Triumph sport
bike which is a 170-mph version of the Triumph Trophy 1200 Inline 4 might
provide some competition for FJ1200 and ZX-11 owners. According to a mole
at the Triumph factory that 1200 produced 156bhp, but engine is too peaky
so they're refining it. Nonetheless, Motorcyclist/Sept has it that those
new Triumphs reportedly will commence distribution in U.S. for 1993 altho
I don't know whether that's for this fall or after Xmas. On that basis,
it would be interesting to see how those Triumphs compare as stockers and
in terms of potential vs the current ZX-11s, etc. Right now the best that
we can do is speculate and that's not quite good enough! ;-)  

Graeme Harrison, DoD#0649
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Subject: ERC class Aug 8 Boston
Summary: class slots open
Keywords: ERC
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:37:20 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

If anyone out there is interested there will be an ERC class held
at Hanscom field in Bedford Mass on Aug 8 1992. The class is 
conducted by Riverside Safety school.

2 spots are open in the class. You can reserve a spot by calling 
TREVA at 617-623-7433.

Ignore the answering machine message, they are screening calls,
just announce you want a spot in the Aug 8 ERC class and they will 
pick up the phone or call you back.

The cost is 35.00

Thanks to Jerry Lotto for providing me with this information.

Dave

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: boardman@cancer.unm.edu (Bob Boardman)
Subject: Re: Get your feet on the GD pegs.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:26:28 GMT
Organization: UNM Cancer Center
Reply-To: boardman@cancer.unm.edu

In article <1992Jul24.141734.21605@access.digex.com>,
 jimb@access.digex.com (Jim Brooking) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.013116.29265@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
  hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) writes:
>>
>>	I have noticed so many riders leaving intersections, parking lots
>>	etc. with their feet dangling down 1" above the road.  Where
>>	does one learn this?  Is this stupid and unecessary(sp?), or is
>>	it just me?  
>>
>Actually, it IS a curious habit... Dragging feet...  Never did
>it, myself.  I s'pose if you applied a li'l too much right
>wrist and the rear wheel went out, you could use your dangling
>feet for outriggers.  Hmm.
>
	I've always let my feet dangle momentarily when starting up from a
  stop for just this reason.  If you're a little too eager on the throttle
  or if the accumulated spooge at the intersection makes traction marginal,
  and the back end breaks loose and starts to pass, a little dab with the
  foot puts everything right back in line.  I'm sure there are other ways
  to deal with the situation, but this has always worked for me.

  -Bob

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rich@gtsi.com (Richard Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Cages suck (women cagers)
Organization: Government Technology Services, Inc.
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 14:14:27 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.214524.217@halfdome.sf.ca.us> laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
>In article <l6ml34INNrb6@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM (elaine 'BEANO' leffler) writes:
>> i can see where the stereotypes come from (not to say i condone them).
>> someone suggested that if more women rode motorcycles, they'd be more 
>> conscious of other riders - i think there's *some* truth in that.
>
>inside they don't like and see as a good chance to rid society of 1)
>the big bad biker dudes habitually portrayed in our society as rapers
>and pillagers, and sometimes not without cause and 2) the neon biker
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

My, my. This from the woman who is arguing against stereotypes.

>trash who seem to be constantly swarming underfoot on 101 at something
>near red shift and begging you to dent their plastic. five lanes and
>he wants to drive in all of them simultaneously at twice the speed of
>traffic.
>

Which is worse, Laurie - the guys pounding on their chests here or you
debating the relative merits of attempted homicide?
-- 
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 HEY YOU! Are you going to the East Coast DoD thing or not? Read rec.moto!
From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: New $$$=New bike?
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:34:29 GMT
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <1992Jul27.105413.2509@bnr.uk> datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild) writes:
>
>It's nice to hjave a bike industry again!  How come we have twice as many bike
>companies as you, in the US?  What ever happened to Indian?  My grandfather
>used to have a 1200-4, itlooked really nice and was quite fast too.
>
   The British killed Indian.  Indian lost a lot of money on fixed-price
contracts in WWII, and borrowed money after the war from Associated
Motor Cycles.  The money was used to design and tool up to make a line
of vertical twins and singles, on the then-modern Brit model.  The
machines were rushed into production, and suffered from many design and
manufacturing flaws.  They flopped bigtime.  In 1949 AMC's US reps took
over and divided up Indian into a sales company and a manufacturing
company.  Indian dealers then were required to sell Matchless,
Velocette, and Royal Enfields next to Indian Chiefs, which continued to
be manufactured until 1953.
   After that, Indians were actually Royal Enfields with "Indian"
painted on the tank.  This condition continued until 1968, when AMC went
belly up, with the only survivor being Norton-Villiers.  After that, the
name was painted on the tank of a variety of mini-bikes, mostly of
Taiwanese or Czech construction.

Indian riders don't wave at Harleys!

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| davet@loowit.WR.TEK.COM         | MRA #151    |   an Indian Scout,        |
| '88 K75S  '48 Indian Chief      | AHRMA #751  |  Or its brother the Chief.|
| '75 R90S(#151) '68 CB450(#751)  | AMA #524737 |  They're built like rocks |
| '65 R50/2/Velorex  '57 NSU Max  |             |   to take the knocks,     |
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| My employer has no idea.        |   Joiner)   |   give you grief."        |
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From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: brand-new seca knocked over by ruffians
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:13:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

In article <root.711993701@zen> root@ESD.3Com.COM (Andy Chan) writes:
>
>This sucks, I wish motorcycles had some kind of springy things
>on the sides, so that when the tip over, they absorb most, if not,
>all of the shock.  Just think of the money you could save.

They are called "Crashbar-Protector-Covers" on the PC800 :^)

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
From: TKPOWELL@bluemoon.profs.tek.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cop Flashlights
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:50:38 GMT


 jearls@tekig6.PEN.TEK.COM (Jeffrey David Earls) writes
-I actually saw a cop use his flashlight as a flashlight once.

-I was running down to the Bay Area for the most recent 4th of July on I5
-in the middle of the night.  Don't ask, I needed to make time.  It turn out
-that the cop to 'normal' folks ratio in Medford, OR at 1:30a.m. is prety
-darn close to 1:1.  After seeing 3-4 troopers on entrance ramps in lessthan
-a mile, I realized that it might be a good idea to pay attention to the
-posted limit.

-So here I am, cruising through at 50mph (in a 55) when I see a trooper n the
-shoulder ahead with a stopped car.  I drift to the left lane to give thm
-clearance and the trooper starts walking out into the slow lane with hi
-flashlight beaming directly through my faceshield into my skull.  He din't
-motion to me so I guess he was just checking to see if there was actualy
-a human head inside my helmet.  I knew better than to flip the (insert our
-favorite euphemism here) off but I was certainly muttering for the
-next 50 miles or so.

-Side note: I didn't see another cop for nearly 300 miles.


Donut shop strike south of Medford that weekend.

--Terry
From: sai@formula1.Corp.Sun.COM (S.Fielding-Isaacs [WWFO Pubs Project Lead])
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Please wear a helmet
Date: 29 Jul 1992 18:20:54 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: formula1.corp.sun.com

In article <1992Jul28.202602.21241@ttinews.tti.com> paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein) writes:
>In article <LOTTO.92Jul27123257@laura.harvard.edu> lotto@laura.harvard.edu (Jerry Lotto) writes:
>+I strive to NOT take a position on helmet laws, but I do follow the
>+arguments both for and against as time permits.  The last word I had
>+regarding studies on the effectiveness of helmet laws was the GAO
>+report - which concluded that helmet LAWS are reasonably effective in
>+both increasing helmet use AND reducing head injury. 
>
>Hmmmmm.  I read the GAO report also.  However, I seem to notice something
>that you didn't.  The report said that each of the 22 studies involved
>was flawed to some extent.  However, they decided that helmet usage
>must be a good thing since all 22 said that.




 I heard on the news last night that the CHP reported that fatalities
 from motorcycle accidents were down 43% since the introduction of
 the helment law here in CA. Take it for what you will. An unqualified
 assertion.


 Stefan
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From: gaijin@ale.Japan.Sun.COM (John Little - Nihon Sun Repair Depot)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Help! Elec prob w/Shadow
Date: 29 Jul 92 10:58:35 GMT
Organization: Nihon Sun Microsystems - Atsugi Technical Centre - JAPAN.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ale.japan.sun.com
Summary: Nah!
Keywords: Frog, Deep-Fried, In, Pastry, Yum!

In article <7719@lee.SEAS.UCLA.EDU> mitch@seashell.seas.ucla.edu \
(Robert R. Mitchell (SEAS admin)) writes:
%  
%  HELP! My 87 Honda 700 Shadow died; some sort of electrical problem.
%  
%  I've described the symptoms to two service managers at different
%  shops, and the instant I mentioned the wildly swinging tach needle,
%  they said "sparkbox" (meaning the CDI spark unit). 
%

   From your  description of  the  initial problem  I would  discount  the
   electronic ignition  unit.   It sounds  as though  you have  a  genuine
   heavy-duty short somewhere that's taking  out -all- of your  electrics.
   The PCB inside the  electronic ignition unit  isn't capable of  sinking
   the whole  output  of your  battery  + alternator  without  going  into
   -major- smoke mode (unless it's radically different from the ones  that
   I've dismantled).

   Pull your tank off  (and any pieces of  plastic which come off  easily)
   and have a really good look for chafed or pinched cables.

   Your battery itself could  have been the cause  of the problem.   Check
   out the  connections  and  your  "new"  battery  again.    The  current
   non-starting problem sounds like a red herring.

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Vespas in here?
From: jbrodsky@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (cool flowin gotta keep goin...)
Date: 31 JUL 92 02:15:44    
Reply-To: jbrodsky@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu
Distribution: world,local
Organization: UofA Hardware And Computing Knowledge Society
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-a4  



    Is anyone in here interested in classic Vespa restoration?  Is this even
the right group for this?  Is there a rec.moto.scoot  or some such thing?
Please let me know.



    -Joel Brodsky                

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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: andersen@me.udel.edu (Stephen Andersen)
Subject: Re: Smoke 'em if you got 'em
Organization: Department of Mechanical Engineering/University of Delaware
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:15:47 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.142408.20361@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (james.bessette) writes:
>In article <5279@transfer.stratus.com> cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com writes:
>>Will ABS interfere with hole-shots ?
>>
>>Can the back tire be spun with the front locked ?
>>Tire smoke after a few sec, and the bike remained stationary. 
>>Are there any BMW ABS owners out there that have tried this ?  
>
>If you spin the rear whilst the front is stationary, you will throw off
>the ABS and ABS will not function (supposedly).  This is what the manual
>says.  I have not tried it.
>


If I remember the recent articles in the moto-rags
about the ABS bikes (ST, FJ, and K) correctly, they mentioned
that the system "cuts out" below a certain speed, say 5 mph
to allow you to complete a stop.  Since most bikes have the 
speedo drive hooked up to the front wheel, then while doing a 
burnout the ABS 'puter thinks the bike is not moving, and 
hence it will not operate...


Steve


-- 
 Steve Andersen  DoD #0239                               andersen@me.udel.edu
 (302) 324-0888                                     andersen@zr1.ccm.udel.edu
 1992 Ducati 907 I.E.                                      1987 Yamaha SRX250
 "Life is simply a consequence of the complexities of carbon chemistry..."
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Insurance Bullshit
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:55:55 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
: In Utah, all denominations seem equally popular. BTW, you forgot 65. Or
: don't the eastern states get to go that fast?

Oh, yeah.  We have 65 now on I-81 almost border-to-border in Va.
That's 300 miles of nice blacktop through the Shenandoah Valley and
into the Smokey Mountains.  As Interstates go, this is one of the
nicest.

Bill Ranck
(still haven't figured out how to get a .sig on this @#$%! machine)
From: dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Advice on Ninja
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:03:39 GMT
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California

In article <l6jspcINNlhu@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh) writes:
>In article <1992Jul19.212149.20594@ncsu.edu> jrwaters@eos.ncsu.edu (JACK ROGERS WATERS) writes:
>>I saw a 1985 Ninja (600cc) for sale.  Color:Cranberry
>>About 8100 miles.  A few nicks and scratches.  Doesn't
>>look like it has been dropped.  Comes with bike cover,
>>noting else.  Needs tune-up and oil change.  Rode
>>very smoothly.  I rode on the back and he was up to
>>100 mph before I knew what happened.
>
>>He was asking 3000.  His lowest price was $2500.  Is this
>>a good deal?
>
>Sounds kinka high to me. I'd suggest that you check out your local
>paper to see what equivelent bikes are going for.
>


Yeah, $3000 is way too much for a dated, heavy, relatively slow and
poorly handling machine like a 1985 Ninja 600. Heck, you could probably
find Hurricane for less.


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