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From: davec@Autodesk.COM (Dave Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Parakeet Questions
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:45:12 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA

afong@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Krell Kraver) writes:
> 
> But, keep in mind that a pair (or more) of budgies are much more
> difficult to tame.  A single budge will bond to you since you are
> the only other "bird" he knows.  If he has a buddy, he has no reason
> to make new friends!

My two male English Budgies have both bonded to me and are completely
tame. One allows me to handle him like bigger parrots --- I can pick
him up with my hands and lay him on his back in my open palms. Both
allow me to groom their heads. Both are incredibly tame. Both fly free
in my house. I think the secret is how young you get them --- I raised
both while they were nestlings --- hand feeding them.

> Hey Dave... do you feed your budgies pellets or have you stuck to a
> seed diet.  My guys currently eat seeds and a few greens (spinach,
> broccoli, kale).

I feed them normal "parakeet" seed (high vitamin). I ALWAYS give them
something green during the day ---- beet greens, chard, carrot tops,
lettuce, peas, spinach. They hate carrot tops, but adore peas and lettuce.
The latter is nutritionally weak, so I try to vary the greens. Sometimes
I give them green seeding grass (after carefully washing it). They also
like to nibble on dry Eucalypt leaves, sometimes green live ones.

I also allow them to eat at the table with me sometimes (they NEVER
poop on the table or my head! ??? Don't ask how or why!). They get their 
own plate, and if I am eating greens, rice, or potatoes, they love that! 
They also like chicken and meat. But they hate mayonnaise, citric drinks, 
or anything with vinegar.

I like them to eat rice and potatoes --- especially in the winter. They
got real fat this winter, and they were able to sustain the cooler
weather better.

I was giving them vitamins in their water, but they got too excitable
and sexual, so I only give it to them occasionally.

DAVE
From: judy <judy@nepac.ucsd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Birds alone during the day?
Date: 6 Jan 1993 17:09:30 GMT
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I've had my cockatiel alone at home during the day for many
years and she's just fine - I do close the cage when I'm gone for
her safety, but she whistles when she hears the car drive up (you
can hear her outside the house) and is at her door waiting to be
let out and lavished with attention when I come into "her" room.
No problem whatsoever, as long as she's confined to her cage.
  I do, however, leave her by a window or two so she can see 
out and watch the neighborhood birds/action!
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From: ubhjp@sun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (H.-J. Pfeffer)
Subject: Parrots right or left, summary III
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:52:46 GMT


Handedness (Footedness!) in parrots.  Part III, dictionary            01/12/93
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Remarks :   This list is in order of the scientifc names. Subspecies are
            mentioned only when clearly stated by the contributor.
            Sometimes the spelling of the common names may vary.
            e.g. english books say "Parrakeet", american books "Parakeet"
            (I'm working on a COMPLETE list of parrots, but that's another
            story ...)

Scientific names                        | Common names
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Amazona aestiva aestiva			| Blue-fronted amazon
Amazona aestiva xanthopteryx		| Yellow-winged amazon
					| Bolivian blue-fronted amazon
Amazona amazonica			| Orange-winged amazon
Amazona autumnalis			| Red-lored amazon
Amazona ochrocephala auropalliata	| Yellow-naped amazon
Amazona ochrocephala oratrix		| Double yellow-fronted amazon
                                        | Mexican yellow-headed amazon
Ara ararauna				| Blue and gold macaw
                                        | Yellow-breasted macaw
                                        | Blue and yellow macaw
Ara militaris				| Military macaw
Ara nobilis                             | Hahn's macaw
                                        | Noble macaw 
Ara severa				| Chestnut-fronted macaw
   	                                | Severe macaw
Aratinga auricapilla			| Golden-capped conure
Aratinga mitrata			| Mitred conure
Aratinga solstitialis			| Sun conure
Brotogeris versicolorus	versicolorus	| Yellow-winged parakeet
Brotogeris versicolorus chiriri		| Canary-winged parakeet
Cacatua alba				| Umbrella cockatoo
					| White-crested cockatoo
Cacatua galerita triton			| Triton cockatoo
Cacatua goffini				| Goffin's cockatoo
Cacatua moluccensis			| Moluccan cockatoo
					| Salmon-crested cockatoo
Cacatua sulphurea citrinocristata	| Citron-crested cockatoo
Eclectus roratus			| Eclectus parrot
Myiopsitta monachus			| Quaker parakeet
					| Monk parakeet
Nandayus nenday				| Nanday conure
Nymphicus hollandicus			| Cockatiel
					| Quarrion
Poicephalus rufiventris			| Red-bellied parrot
Poicephalus senegalus			| Senegal parrot
Psittacula alexandri			| Moustached parakeet 
Psittacus erithacus erithacus		| African grey parrot
					| Congo grey parrot
Psittacus erithacus timneh		| Timneh grey parrot
Pyrrhura molinae			| Green-cheeked conure
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From: prkenne@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP)
Subject: Re: Favorite snacks?
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Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  8 Jan 1993 11:40 EST  

In article <1ik0bdINN5lq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn) writes...
> 
>Are small quantities of people food harmful for parrots? I hope not,
>because my yellow-naped Amazon has a couple of favorites. "Polly
>wanna cracker" to Zack means "Give me a darn tortilla chip, NOW!"
>But that's only his second-favorite. Pizza crust sends him into
>ecstasy. I only give him a little bit <she says with a touch of
>guilt, hoping she is not harming her li'l green pal>. I guess that's not so
>weird. I once had a cat that was wild about avocado!
> 
>Does anyone else's bird have favorite snacks? 
>-- 

My cockatiel goes ballistic as soon as a pizza box enters the house.  As 
soon as the aroma hits she screeches and does a routine we call her "let me 
out circle" in fast forward.  We've been giving in (hah! more like mommy 
brought pizza for the pretty baby) for two years and she hasn't come down 
with pizze hut syndrome or any other illness :-)

            " Learn from the mistakes of others
             you can never live long enough to
             make them all yourself"

                                *Carol*

			
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From: grant@tiamat.ucs.sfu.ca (Grant Dimock)
Subject: Re: 'Tiel Nostril Problem
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:54:09 GMT

In article <1irtlfINNsku@function.mps.ohio-state.edu>  
sylanov@math.ohio-state.edu (Christine V Sylanov) writes:
> 	
> 	My 7-year old 'tiel has never been sick (as far as I
> 	know), so this sort of thing is new to me.  On Saturday,
> 	one of her nostrils appeared to be "closed up"-i.e.,
> 	there is some sort of stuff covering it.  It isn't
> 	swollen or discolored, that I can see anyway.
> 	She seems to be as perky as usual, and she's eating
> 	alright.
> 
> 	Should I make a bee-line for the vet's?

I have seen three different nostril problems in my 'tiels.
1) A seed hull stuck in the nostril.  they will eventually clean it out  
themselves.
2) Fluff, down, feather parts.  Same as #1
3) If it appears to be plugged and or running like a runny nose of a cold, best  
to get it to the vet.  This is probably the rarest of the three, but it is a  
good idea to keep an eye on her.  Ours had a cold but she was still perky.  It  
didn't hurt her, but we got some stuff for her anyway.
From: mtt@hila.hut.fi (Merja Tornikoski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Lovebird / Rosella info needed
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:43:04 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland


Hi folks,

I'm posting this for a friend of mine. Any info via this newsgroup
or e-mail will be appreciated.

My friend is interested in buying a pet bird, or a pair of them,
and she has been offered a pair of Lovebirds and a pair of Rosellas
for what she consideres a reasonable price. She would now like to
know more about these two species.

- What are the main advantages / disadvantages of the two species?
  She is mainly interested in their pet quality; how tame or lovable
  are they, how noisy etc. for example compared to budgies or
  cockatiels.
- How easily can the birds be tamed if not handfed (ages about 6 months)?
  (It's very difficult to find handfed baby birds here in Finland.)
- How important is it to purchase a pair instead of a single bird?
  I've been told that Lovebirds really need a mate, is this true for
  Rosellas as well?
- Anything else one should know about them before making the decision?

Thanks in advance,

     merja

    *    Merja Tornikoski                              *
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From: cjb@canopus.Stanford.EDU (Cecil Bloch)
Subject: Angus, garlic, etc.
Reply-To: cjb@vega.stanford.edu
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 18:10:10 GMT

Like Angus, our yellow-collared entropy maximizer, Coco, also loves garlic  
and finds it necessary, upon snarfing down a chunk, to shower us with  
kisses. I can't help but think she knows what she's doing. However, as I  
love garlic too I don't really mind (there's a great garlic restaurant in  
San Francisco called "The Stinking Rose"; I wanted to take Coco to dinner  
there but they didn't have a high chair high enough).

Unlike Angus, Coco doesn't do much in the way of home decoration though  
she does assist me in making her toys (I have a large box of all the  
necessary components, beads, cotton rope, etc. bought cheaply at bird  
shows and craft shops), largely by ripping things out of my hand and  
running under the bed with them.  She loves pens in particular and will  
put up a terrific battle for one, squealing and yelping as she tries to  
dislodge it from my fingers.  Just giving her an old one isn't any good;  
its the one she can't have that she wants (in this case a $150  
Pelikan)....

But she does like to help clean up the area around her cage.  When one is  
on hands and knees sweeping up food debris, shredded toys, etc. she  
delights in hanging upside down from her cage door and  pulling furiously  
at one's hair.

Its never a dull moment.
From: billg@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Bill Gingras)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:22:12 GMT
Subject: Scary 'Tiel Behavior
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds


Early this morning (it was still dark), my 'tiel suddently started
flapping violently in his cage.  I jumped up and quickly flipped on the
light but he just wouldn't stop.  I stuck my hand in the cage to try and
grab him but his flapping was so violent that it took me awhile to
finally get him out of the cage.  Even after I finally pulled him out of
the cage, I put him on the floor and he continued to flap for several
seconds more before he came to his senses.  I'd say the whole episode
took about 30-45 seconds.  It was really scary.  I'm convinced that even
if he were to have broken a wing, he wouldn't have been in control of
himself enough to have stopped.

Has anyone else's 'tiel ever done this?  Was this one of those infamous
'tiel panic attacks?

- Bill G

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From: twallace@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Todd Wallace)
Subject: Re: Speaking of crows...
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:00:02 GMT

Crows are considered very intelligent. They are my favorite bird
to watch, and because we have so many in the Washington DC area,
there is always a lot going on.

Crows live in groups with an alpha male and an alpha female,
much like wolves.  The females do what the alpha female tells
them to, and the males do what the alpha male tell thems them
to.  I often like to feed the squirrels peanuts down at the
Vietnam Memorial (they will jump on to your lap, climb up your
leg, and generally freak out the tourists).  I have seen crows
watching where the squirrels bury their extra peanuts, wait for
the squirrel to come back to me, then jump down and dig up the
peanut!
 
Personally I think it would be cruel to take a crow away from
its fellows, but I guess if you found an injured one ...
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From: hibanez@wam.umd.edu (guzman)
Subject: chicken eggs
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:20:45 GMT

hello..

I posted the inquiry re: incubating chicken eggs and I want to thank
everyone who responded.  Now, my new question is: where can
I find/buy/get viable chicken eggs?  (or any viable eggs
for that matter like duck, goose, turkey..?)  I live in the
Washington D.C. Metro area if that matters...


thanks. 

Lars
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From: ammg2052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Aaron M. Moy)
Subject: RE: Rosellas and lovebirds
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:09:09 GMT


Both lovebirds and rosellas are known for their excellent color.  The rosellas
however have more vibrant colors and patterns on the body than lovebirds.
It is practically impossible to tame a mean lovebird, but you can certainly
try if it's young.  I haven't tried to tame my rosellas, but I think they
couldn't be any worse than lovebirds for taming.  The lovebirds have chirps
and squeaks, whereas the rosellas have calls and whistles.  Neither can be
expected to "talk."  If the rosella really gets into making noise, then he
is slightly loouder than a cockatiel.  The noise, though, is not harsh like
screaming conures or amazons.  If the bird receives regular personal human 
contact, then I don't think a mate is required.  If the birds don't accept
human companionship, then a mate would be in the birds best interest.

Aaron Moy
ammg2052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu			Was that the phone...
"The Baby's Nest" Hand-Fed Birds		or the bird???
Urbana, Illinois
(217) 328-1838

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From: ammg2052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Aaron M. Moy)
Subject: RE: Bargain Untame Tiel
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:03:30 GMT


In response to Anurag Mehta's post:

	I would resist the temptation for buying the untamed cockatiel.  It
	would take much effort and patience to tame him down, and odds are
	he'd still be far from the adorability of a hand-fed.  I don't know
	about your area, but my hand-fed grey tiels sell in the $40 range, 
	so $25 for an unloving tiel is no bargain.  Try searching the
	classifieds or contact the American Cockatiel Society for breeders 
	in your area.

Aaron Moy
ammg2052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu                      Was that the phone...
"The Baby's Nest" Hand-Fed Birds               or the bird???
Urbana, Illinois
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From: rxb@vax (Rachel Banko)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Birds reaction to noises
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:39:48 GMT
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Whenever I handle plastic supermarket bags or rip open a bag
of junk food my Scotch Fancy canary goes crazy craning her
neck in every which direction. Unlike more intelligent birds
she is not associating the noise with a treat. I think it
sounds like the crackling of fire.
From: curt@nereus.East.Sun.COM (Curt Harpold-Sun-Vienna VA-Systems Engineer)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: New African Grey!!
Date: 5 Jan 1993 18:35:28 -0500
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In article <1993Jan5.200339.9079@news2.cis.umn.edu> rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin) writes:
>|> > I could also use some help on naming him.  
>|> I've always wanted to get a grey and name him "Earl" (Gray).
>
>Hmmm... :-)  There's always options like "Matt(e)" too, but I like Earl.  :-)

So did I, but there were at least two other greys around named "Earl", so
I named mine "Dorian".

Curt Harpold			curt.harpold@east.sun.com

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From: hawk@hawk.sps.mot.com (George Hawkins)
Subject: Re: 'Tiel Nostril Problem
Organization: Motorola Inc. MMTG Oakhill Austin Texas
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:14:34 GMT

	one of her nostrils appeared to be "closed up"-i.e....

Christine:

My birds sometimes get food in their nostrils. PIGGY EATERS!


regards,
George Hawkins KI5X [DXCC mobile 175]
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From: bamford@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (harold.e.bamford)
Subject: Re: New African Grey!!
Organization: AT&T
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 23:40:55 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.200339.9079@news2.cis.umn.edu> rjg@umnstat.stat.umn.edu (Robert J. Granvin) writes:
>|> > I could also use some help on naming him.  

Depends on the personality.  For a crafty type of bird, how about
"Morgan LeFeather?"

-- Harold
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From: andrus@cs.uwp.edu (Bonnie Andrus)
Subject: Blue and Gold macaw
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
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From: roberts@studguppy.lanl.gov (Doug Roberts)
Subject: Re: New African Grey!!
Organization: Technology Modeling and Analysis, LANL-A7
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:02:51 GMT


In article <6149@rosie.NeXT.COM> bavenell@next.com (Bette Avenell) writes:

> I could also use some help on naming him.  

Congratulations!

I've always wanted to get a grey and name him "Earl" (Gray).

--Doug
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From: judy <judy@nepac.ucsd.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Birds reaction to noises
Date: 4 Jan 1993 17:30:33 GMT
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My 6-yr-old cockatiel goes nuts when I open any kind of plastic bag - I
assume
from the fact that CORN CHIPS (one of her favorite junk foods) come in
that kind
of bag.  She also knows the sound of my car - my roommates used to laugh
because
she'd start whistling and singing the moment she heard it, but not other
cars!
Any other good noises for birds???
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From: ubhjp@sun.rz.tu-clausthal.de (H.-J. Pfeffer)
Subject: Parrots right or left, summary II
Organization: Techn. Univ. Clausthal
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 11:51:37 GMT


Handedness (Footedness!) in parrots.  Part II, list of birds         01/12/93
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Remarks :   This list is in order of the scientifc names. Subspecies are
            mentioned only when clearly stated by the contributor.
            For a reference list scientific/common names see part III.
            S = sex (m=male, f=female, u=unknown)
            L = left orientated (using left foot mostly)
            R = right orientated (using right foot mostly)

                                        | S | L | R |  birds/genus
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
** Cacatua moluccensis/Cacatua alba     | m | 1 |   | ____ 1
Amazona aestiva aestiva			| f |   | 1 |
Amazona aestiva aestiva			| m | 1 | 1 |
Amazona aestiva aestiva			| u | 1 |   |
Amazona aestiva xanthopteryx		| m | 1 |   |
Amazona aestiva xanthopteryx		| u |   | 1 |
Amazona amazonica			| f | 2 |   |
Amazona amazonica			| m |   | 1 |
Amazona autumnalis			| u | 1 |   |
Amazona ochrocephala auropalliata	| u |   | 1 |
Amazona ochrocephala oratrix		| f | 1 |   |
Amazona ochrocephala oratrix		| m | 3 | 1 | ____ 16
Ara ararauna				| u | 1 | 1 |
Ara militaris				| u | 1 |   |
Ara nobilis                             | u | 2 |   | 
Ara severa				| u |   | 1 | ____ 6 
Aratinga auricapilla			| u | 1 |   |
Aratinga mitrata			| m | 1 |   |
Aratinga solstitialis			| f | 1 |   |
Aratinga solstitialis			| m | 2 |   |
Aratinga solstitialis 			| u | 1 |   | ____ 6 
Brotogeris versicolorus			| u |   | 1 |
Brotogeris versicolorus chiriri		| u | 1 | 1 | ____ 3 
Cacatua galerita triton			| f | 1 |   |
Cacatua goffini				| m | 2 |   |
Cacatua moluccensis			| f |   | 1 |
Cacatua moluccensis			| m | 1 |   |
Cacatua moluccensis			| u | 1 |   |
Cacatua sulphurea citrinocristata	| u | 1 |   | ____ 7 
Myiopsitta monachus			| f |   | 1 | ____ 1
Nandayus nenday				| u | 1 |   | ____ 1
Nymphicus hollandicus			| f | 2 | 1 |
Nymphicus hollandicus			| m | 4 |   | ____ 7
Poicephalus rufiventris			| f | 1 |   |
Poicephalus senegalus			| f | 1 |   |
Poicephalus senegalus			| m | 2 |   | ____ 4
Psittacula alexandri			| m |   | 1 | ____ 1
Psittacus erithacus erithacus		| u | 3 | 3 |
Psittacus erithacus timneh		| f | 1 | 1 |
Psittacus erithacus timneh		| m | 1 | 1 |
Psittacus erithacus timneh		| u |   | 2 | ____ 12
Pyrrhura molinae			| u | 1 |   | ____ 1
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From: afong@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Krell Kraver)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Parakeet Questions
Date: 9 Jan 93 19:59:50 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <18339@autodesk.COM> davec@Autodesk.COM (Dave Cooper) writes:
>Jackie,
>
>First of all, having a single Budgie is, in my opinion, a very
>sad and cruel thing. Budgiregars are flocking birds that live
>in vast flocks. They interact intensely with their fellow flock
>members.

But, keep in mind that a pair (or more) of budgies are much more
difficult to tame.  A single budge will bond to you since you are
the only other "bird" he knows.  If he has a buddy, he has no reason
to make new friends!

Hey Dave... do you feed your budgies pellets or have you stuck to a
seed diet.  My guys currently eat seeds and a few greens (spinach,
broccoli, kale).


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