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From: brett@Apple.COM (Brett Halle)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Install A/UX 3.0 (GM) on a LPS240Q
Date: 16 Apr 92 23:58:12 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

rkou@skat.usc.edu (Roger H. Kou) writes:

>hey there!

>I tried to install A/UX 3.0 golden master on a Quadra 700 w/20 meg RAM
>LPS 240 Quautum(sp?) HD. but failed. the problem could be there is no
>entry for this HD in a/ux's installer disk table. I dunno exaclty.

>anyone? installation was sucessful on a ci, haven't tried to install
>it on that LPS 240 w/another machine besides the HD's owner(the Quadra
>700). tried formatted it into a/ux partitions w/silverlining, but a/us 
>still won't install. 

>any reply would be appreciated!!

>-RK

You indicate that the installation failed...can you possibly give more
details? Did you get an error dialog? Did it crash? What happened?
A/UX 3.0 should handle most third party disks.

Please provide more details.

--Brett R. Halle,
  A/UX Objectician.
From: alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: named from A/UX 2.01
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:07:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

pst@cisco.com (Paul S. Traina) writes:
>No, the resolver code is working fine, I'm just getting really strange
>problems with named, and I can't seem to reproduce them unless I start
>named from inittab.  Basicly, I'm getting spurious responses from the
>select/accept code with the error message "Socket operation on
>non-socket".  When I start up my new named from the shell (/bin/sh,
>compat flags 0x403), it works just fine.

Between this and the crap that John and I have observed with inetd vs. telnetd,
when inetd is run from inittab, it's becoming quite obvious that init is doing
something horribly sick.

I thought I'd be able to hack through a port of telnetd, with some struggle,
but John did it first (and fast!). I suspect that trying to replace init is
rather beyond my abilities (or anyone's, outside of Apple).

In the meantime, I've been testing a poor-man's init (a cron job that runs
every few minutes and looks through a "ps -u root" for things like inetd and
named), and it seems to work reasonably well, comparatively speaking.

But this is NOT ACCEPTABLE as a solution. If this stuff isn't fixed soon I'm
just going to give up. I just realized that I've spent all my hacking time
in the last month or two dealing with bugs instead of writing new code. (There
are only so many weird shell scripts you can write to work around low-level
bugs before your sanity goes. :-)

BTW, I have a question about how init works. How does it know when a "respawn"
process dies? I mean, what's the code? Don't such processes detach themselves
from the process group of init, most of the time? (If they didn't I could
see just waiting for sigchld or whatever it's called.) Does it actually brute-
force it, searching the list of actuve processes every few seconds? (I don't
believe that could be- it's too fast.)

---
Alexis Rosen
Owner/Sysadmin, PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC.
alexis@panix.com
{cmcl2,apple}!panix!alexis
From: pdills@seaotter.micro.umn.edu (Peter in Amiland)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Inormation about the A/UX 3.0 Upgrade (actual)
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:15:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Apr16.161524.6735
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.

Hello again,

I have a rather easy question:

To those of you fortunate enough to have the new 3.0 upgrade already,
I am wondering how it works (actually).

Being that it's on CD-ROM, how is the upgrade installed? It is the same
technique as on the 2.0/2.01 CD-ROMs? If so, how do they dicern between those
who purchased the prior version, and those who are just trying to get 3.0
cheap?

Does the upgrade look on my system to see if I have 2.0/2.01 installed
already?

Someone told me that you just need to show that you have a manual or so
from the 2.0/2.01 set. Anyhow, I still have the manuals and the reciept
from the 2.0 purchase, so I should be fine.

If anyone has completed the upgrade successfully, please let me know
how it worked, in relation to the previous versions, and if I we will
be able to make "usable" copies (without a running kernal) of it, for
backup.

One of the worst problems with the prior installation technique is the
problem with always having to reinstall off of CD-ROM. I for one would
love to be able to make a usable back-up of the files as well as the
usuable system! 

Thankx in advance for any info,

Peter

pdills@ux.acs.umn.edu (internet, immer/always) Walter 9 Computer Center Mngr.
pdills@mermaid.micro.umn.edu (Internet, immer/always) Consultant EE/CSCI
From: covert@cactus.org (Richard Covert)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Using a Sony SMOP witgh A/UX
Keywords: a/ux,mac
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:20:01 GMT
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx

I have a sony SMO read/write optical  drive that I am moving from
an Atari ST computer to my new Mac Quadra 700. It has a standard
SCSI interface. I need to know how to get it recognized by A/UX.

I would like to be able to at least format/partition it so that it
can be used as a mac partition. But I would ideally like to be able to
use it as an A/UX partition also. It uses the removable 5.25" read/write
optical cartridges. With almost 300 per side it would make a nice media for
my A/UX.

1) who makes mac software to format/partition it? I heard that SilerLining
   5.33 will work.

2) Who makes an A/UX driver for the drive? Or would just formatting it
   allow it to work with A/UX?

I need to remove the Atari interface to get to the SCSI interface in the
drive cabinet. So, I haven't tried to use it on my Mac yet. FYI, the Atari St
doesn't have a standard SCSI interface, so an ICD adapter board modifies the
Atari interface to to SCSI interface obn the Sony SMO drive.

Thanks for your help!!

P.S. I ccan be reached at (512) 251-9892 if email bounces.

-- 
Richard E. Covert                 covert@cactus.org
CACTUS                  ..!cs.utexas.edu!cactus.org!covert
From: jprovo@Gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Wandering Pedestal of Angst)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: various thots & queries....
Summary: dinosuar a/ux, slip, fun w/porting.
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:28:55 GMT
Organization: Russell Street UN*X Consultations
X-Lyric: ``Let the rain fall down and fill the castle-keep...''

Ok, this will be a neat one... I grabbed the FAQ and breezed over it -
I didn't see any of the issues addressed, and probably with good reason.

I'm an ex-VaTech [seems aeons ago now] student from '88; so I have the vintage
mac II w/A/UX 1.0 [tho I had thought we had the 1.1 upgrade distributed, I do
not recall patching it in in the 88-9 year].  Now (well, in the intervening
time) that apple has become much -ahem- tighter, how much of a bite would they
hit me with for trying to get an upgrade to the 2.N level?  Or might I still be
under the auspices of the VaTech lic? [doubt it]

Anyway, regardless of upgrades, I'm curious where I could lay my hands on SLIP
for the architecture. I'm planning on using the mac tied to a pair of Convegent
technologies [sheesh!  maybe I should call it Russell Street UN*X TarPit;
beware of dinosaurs!] Miniframes; these babies are MC68010-based, So I'll be
porting whatever SLIP source I get to them, and to a few other MC680x0 machines
that are in the hands of friends. Pointers, please; uu-interface between the
three machines LOSES bigtime.

Finally, under this *archaic* setup, will I be leaping thru hoops if I decide
to dedicate a significant chunk of my new, 120 meg HD to the AUX side?

Get as technical as you like, I been hacking various and sundry unicies since
88 and make the bread and butter that way now...

-but email is preferred, as I rarely get the time to read as much news as I
like these days...

joe provo
-- 
Disclaimer: "I'm the only one foolish enough to claim these opinions as mine."
jprovo@gnu.ai.mit.edu   --UN*X and Networking Solutions--   jzp@gene.ummed.edu
Joe @ 90.5 FM in Worcester, MA  Rev. Dkr. Nick LaRG0, ASC  BBI Havoc     SPOO!
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: cmenser@isis.cs.du.edu (Charles Menser)
Subject: MacMach (CMU) cost, etc...
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 02:12:26 GMT


What does MacMach (from CMU) cost? Is there an educational discount?
Is it currently available? Who should I contact to purchase it?

Please reply by email to: cmenser@vyonous.kennesaw.edu.

Thanks,
Charles

--
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Charles D. Menser               !  "... and even if you choose not to decide,
cmenser@vyonous.kennesaw.edu    !           you still have made a choice."
From: reuven@athena.mit.edu (Reuven M. Lerner)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Installing Emacs 18.57
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:50:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: pit-mana.REUVEN.92Apr15165053
Reply-To: reuven@athena.mit.edu
Distribution: comp.unix.aux
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

People on this newsgroup were so helpful when I last had a problem
(trying to download files using ZTerm; using 'file' and 'fcnvt' did
the trick), that I've decided to come to you with another one:

I'm trying to install GNU Emacs 18.57 (and other GNU programs, but
we'll stick with Emacs for now) on my IIfx with 20 MB RAM running A/UX
2.0.1. We have two 80 MB hard drives, one of which is the root
partition, and another which is split between /usr and a development
partition.

I'm able to download, convert, uncompress, and un-tar the Emacs files
without any problems. But when I use 'make' to try to create the Emacs
binaries, 'make' tells me that it can't find X source and header
files. So my first question is: What if I don't want to run Emacs
under X? What if I just want to use it inside of a terminal window?
Must I download the X library to run Emacs?

I've installed Emacs before (albeit on systems with X libraries), so
this isn't completely foreign. On the other hand, it would be really
convenient if someone were to post the Emacs binaries that I could
simply uncompress, un-tar, and run.

Thanks for any and all help...

Reuven
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: FAQ and 3.0
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 10:16:57 GMT

Now that 3.0 is "officially" shipping, I can _really_ start to modify the FAQ
for 3.0. I hope to be getting my "official" copy soon...

Anyway, I would request that all Beta testers send me their comments and
"discoveries" but _only_ after checking them with 3.0 Golden to make sure they
are still valid.

I still expect to hold the FAQ posting frequency to every 2 weeks even with
the modifications being done.
-- 
==============================================================================
#include <std/disclaimer.h>

                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 711.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

       "If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?"
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: AUX print driver
Keywords: System 7
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:30:48 GMT

beser@aplcomm.JHUAPL.EDU (Nick Beser) writes:

>jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:

>>Actually, it _is_ in the FAQ :)

>>You _can_ use System7 printer drivers under A/UX 2.0.1... just copy the
>>correct files over (LaserWriter and LaserPrep)...

>>Simple.

>Jim,
>	I looked at the FAQ again. Number 19 mentioned a laser Prep file. Its
>my understanding (supported by looking at the System Folders on both System 7
>disks and System 6 disk that have the System 7 capatible print driver) that
>Laser Prep is no longer used in System 7 (Its not even on the disk). I will 
>try to copy the latest print monitor and LaserWriter file over the the System 
>Folder on the A/UX system. If this works, I will let you know, and you should
>revise #19.

It's true that LaserPrep is no longer needed under System7, however, when
System7 (7.0) first came out, to use the System7 drivers under System6, you
needed to install a "revised" LaserPrep file (this was included I think in
the 7.0 distribution and definately in the Group Upgrade Kit). In fact, I
think if you look at the System 6.0.8 disks, you'll find LaserPrep.

It's possible that LaserPrep is no longer needed for LaserWriter 7.1 or 7.1.1
to run under System6 (LaserPrep is given as version 7.0). It's also
possible that you don't need it under A/UX. I'm running LW 7.1.1 and I'll
delete LaserPrep and see what happens...
-- 
==============================================================================
#include <std/disclaimer.h>

                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 711.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

       "If we took the bones out, it wouldn't be crunchy now would it?"
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: lee@wang.com (Lee Story)
Subject: Re: The PowerBook 140-170 and A/UX 2.+ discussion ...
Organization: Wang Laboratories, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:34:25
	<1992Apr3.235719.29945@nic.umass.edu>

In article <1992Apr3.235719.29945@nic.umass.edu> a0s5101@titan.ucc.umass.edu (in use) writes:
   >I find it both interesting and most unpleasent that A/UX won't run on the
   >PowerBook machines. The fact of the matter is that I would consider buying
   >a PB simply because of its size and Mac App-ability, but am now turning
   >in the direction of a 386-sx notebook.
   >(Afterall, you can always run Mac-emulation SW on it 'grin')
   >
   >Just think about it, UNIX on a notebook. What a concept, eh? 

   As I recall, Sony had such a beast, complete with significantly better
   than 640x480 graphics.

   >Since Apple has obviously put much time into the development of the A/UX
   >product, why create a machine, notebook-style or not, that can't run the
   >software? I mean, they're expensive enough! :-}

Definitely SCO Unix (and probably Intel V.4) runs just fine on the
Toshiba '386 portables with 80M or more of disk.  A fellow I work with
here used one for a year or more.  So it looks like Apple has been so
busy patenting and suing that they've slipped at least a year of two
behind the PC (which ALSO means "politically correct in business
offices") folk.

C'mon, Apple.  Fire your lawyers, get in bed with Stallman, and give us
the hardware and software you're capable of!!  (This is from a relatively
satisfied IIci owner.)
--

------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Lee Story (lee@wang.com) Wang Laboratories, Inc.
     (Boston and New Hampshire AMC, and Merrimack Valley Paddlers)
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From: barry@reed.edu (Barry Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: A/UX Terminal Server for MacOS/AppleTalk Clients?
Summary: Does such exist?
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:16:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Apr12.201654.15827
Distribution: na
Organization: Blue Sky Research, Portland OR

We are a MacOS shop installing an A/UX system for mail access (mostly).
So far, we're only AppleTalk connected; no Ethernet at all.
(This will change, but not soon enough.)

We would like to use our Macs and AppleTalk network to access our A/UX
system, but "usually reliable sources" tell me that terminal access/servers
don't work over AppleTalk, only over Ethernet.

If this is NOT true, and AppleTalk access IS available (free or commercial),
I would appreciate pointers to specific software/suppliers.  Thanks!

Barry Smith, Blue Sky Research
barry@reed.edu
From: beser@aplcomm.JHUAPL.EDU (Nick Beser)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: AUX print driver
Summary: Is there a new print driver that is system 7 compatible?
Keywords: System 7
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:42:24 GMT
Organization: JHU/APL, Laurel, MD

This is probably a good question for the FAQ. My A/UX version 2.0.1 system
is on a network with macs running System 7. In order to prevent the printers
from complaining about mixing system 7 and system 6 versions on the same
net, we use the System 7 compatible print driver. Is there a print driver
for A/UX that will do the same thing? Do I just copy the System 6 print driver
to the System folder on the A/UX system?

Nick Beser
beser@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: gmarzot@mitre.org (G. S. Marzot(Joe))
Subject: trivial question
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 2 Apr 1992 14:19:49 GMT

Sorry to waste time with a trivial question but.... does anyone know what 
information is necessary to upgrade A/UX 1.0 to 3.0.  Is there a liscence 
# to include with a purchase req. or some other proof of ownership. Thank 
you, please reply by email.
-GSM

routine disclaimer
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: sukes@eng.umd.edu (Tasuki Hirata)
Subject: Re: named from A/UX 2.01
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 15:02:49 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Engineering
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Apr2.111120.24916@panix.com> alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen) writes:
>pst@cisco.com (Paul S. Traina) writes:
>>I hacked bind and the resolver code from the NET/2 distribution to run
>>under A/UX, but am now noticing some problems.  Unfortunately, I blew
>>away my distribution copy of named.  Would someone be willing to
>>uuencode and email me a copy of the 2.01 distribution binary?  (check
>>with me first, no need to have several people send it to me).  Once I
>>disassemble part of the initialization code in the distribution
>>version and figure out what I did wrong, I'll release my diffs to the
>>new bind and resolver library.
>
>I was just going to post about named, actually- I was wondering if anyone
>had redone it for A/UX, since the 2.0.1 named likes to die for no good reason
>several times a week (and of course, for some reason you can't mark it as

I re-did my resolver lib with bind 4.8.3 and am not seeing any problems.
Of course I don't run named on the machine, but my machine does
use alot of HESIOD call.

Xref: sparky comp.unix.aux:1817 comp.unix.internals:1109 comp.unix.questions:6183
From: urlichs@smurf.sub.org (Matthias Urlichs)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,comp.unix.internals,comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: accessing system proc struct
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:53:45 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: smurf.smurf.sub.org

In comp.unix.aux, article <1992Apr10.063511.23179@m.cs.uiuc.edu>,
  coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
< 
< There are two programs in the shar archive attached to this post. The
< first, proctest.c, is my simple mini-ps program. It fetches the number
< of processes available on the machine, finds the address of proc in
< /dev/kmem, and then runs through proc looking at processes and printing
< out info. To find the arguments, it looks up the u area and prints out
< the psargs variable.
< 
Unfortunately, the psargs variable is just 40 characters, which apears to be
hand-tailored so that "ps -f" will print nicely on an Apple 13" console
screen. Given a nice 80/132/infinite_column "ps" on many other systems,
hiding a minimal copy in the u.area strikes me as a suboptimal solution.

Any chance to get at the "real" argument vector?

To do this, you'd probably have to hunt through /dev/(k)mem or /dev/swap.
Ugly, but doable (hopefully). I also know that the program is free to modify
that vector, but this is exactly what I want to do anyway.  ;-)
-- 
Matthias Urlichs  --  urlichs@smurf.sub.org -- urlichs@smurf.ira.uka.de   /(o\
Humboldtstrasse 7 -- 7500 Karlsruhe 1 -- Germany  --  +49-721-9612521     \o)/
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,comp.unix.internals,comp.unix.questions
From: palermo@woody.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Bob Palermo)
Subject: accessing system proc struct
Organization: Command Control Automation Project, JPL
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 19:09:15 GMT

I need to know how to access the system process structures from C
under A/UX.

This is trivial under SunOS, they provide kvm_open, kvm_getproc, 
kvm_nextproc,...
These routines apparently do not exist under A/UX.

I looked at the source code for the generic bsd version of the ps command. 
It accesses the table using kvm_* calls similar to those of the Sun.  
This leads me to believe that this is a System V / BSD discrepancy.

From a C program, I want to be able to search through process list to 
determine if a given process is running.

Please e-mail me with any help at:

	palermo@woody.jpl.nasa.gov

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu (John Coolidge)
Subject: Re: A/UX and the PowerBooks
Reply-To: coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 04:15:17 GMT

bbg@aber.ac.uk (Bo Gervang) writes:
>In article <625@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov> jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:
>>   1. The RAM and Internal Disk limitations of the PB.
>>      The current Max Ram in a PB is 8MB (I think) and I've only seen
>>      up to 80MB (internal) available for the PB's. This seems inadequate
>>      to run A/UX. Of course you could add another hard disk and that would
>>      get around that limitation (8MB RAM should be Okay :) but then you
>>      loose that "portable feel" of the PB (If you want to run A/UX on it
>>      while on the road, you need to also pack along the external disk and
>>      you'll _need_ to be next to an outlet... Ouch!)
>I think we all would agree that an external HD would spoil the
>portability of the PBs - will we see an internal disk of at least
>120MB in the VERY near future?

I believe MicroTech has a 120M drive for the PowerBook now. If not, it's
imminent. Also, Liberty has a 200M drive (external) that runs on 3 hour
batteries.

However, memory is a problem, and I agree that sleep is bad. If the
PowerBook could reliably keep running for at least a minute without a
battery pack (internal battery, perhaps), then it wouldn't be so bad:
you'd just have to change batteries on demand or have /etc/shutdown run,
like it or don't. But my 140 can't even survive in sleep while I switch
batteries. Annoyingly, the 140 I played with in a store could :-(. Oh
well. Maybe mine is defective (the one my officemate got has the same
problem, though, so probably not).

Anyway, the PowerBook is great, even if there's no A/UX.

--John

        It must be really nice to not let knowledge get in your way.
                -- Anne Archer, _Narrow_Margin_

+++John L. Coolidge++til May:coolidge@cs.uiuc.edu++May:coolidge@apple.com++
I speak for myself, not the UofI or Apple. Copyright 1992 John L. Coolidge.
Copying allowed only if attributed and if all copies may be further copied.
From: yaosenko@acsu.buffalo.edu (Yaosen Ko)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Looking for video card to drive 16"/17" monitor
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:03:47 GMT
Organization: UB

Hello everybody,

We are looking for NuBus video card which should be able to:

1. Drive 16"/17" monitor (Nanao T560i)
2. Display 24-bit color
3. 100% compatible with A/UX running on Mac IIfx

Can anybody give me a hint on which way to go?

Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux,comp.unix.internals,comp.unix.questions
From: chgarnett@amherst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: 3.0 appears on the price lists! Yes!
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:12:33 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.

Yes! It's out!

I *just* placed the order for 3.0, as it appeared on today's HEPP II
price list. $162 for the CD update. Hell, the Administration manual
set cost more than that...$204.

Rock and roll!
-Craig
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux