HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
Subject: software for reading netnews offline
Reply-To: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 04:32:33 GMT


is there a shareware/pd software for reading netnews offline ?

I save news articles into one huge files and download it. currently
I just use a word processor to read it.

is there a program that will enable me to read it like reading it
using rn (or whatever newsreader).

the file I download is more like the info-mac digest files format..
that is, news articles (messages) , including all the header info,
are included in the file.

please email response if possible.

thanks in advance.

jerry

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Jeffrey L. Needleman <JNeedleman@MCIMail.com>
Subject: Re: SLIP for MAC
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 07:43:10 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
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X-Xxdate: Fri, 4 Sep 92 07:46:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.173621.16133@NOC.Vitalink.COM> Walter Lopez,
wlopez@vitalink.com writes:
>I am trying to located a copy of MacSLIP by Rick Watson too. How
>does this package compare? I hear it is MacTCP compatible..

You can get MacSLIP for $49.95 plus $4.00 shipping from TriSoft
800-531-5170; FAX 512-473-2122.  I ordered my copy by e-mail to
info@hydepark.com giving a charge card number.

I'm using it with the MacTCP version of TCP/Connect II and can verify
that it works fine with that and with all other MacTCP software that I've
tried.  The scripting language is simple but has all that I've needed so
far--the sample scripts included are easily modifiable even without
reading the manual. (I'm a Mac user--what's a manual?)
It took me only 10 minutes to set things up when I got it.

Jeff
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: hshubs@eff.org (Howard Shubs)
Subject: Re: Higher modem speeds?
Originator: hshubs@eff.org
Organization: The Electronic Frontier Foundation
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 03:23:33 GMT

west@ntmtv.UUCP (Andrew West) writes:

>Now that we've got cheap v.32bis (14.4K bps uncompressed) modems, I
>have to expect CCITT to come up with another standard for an even
>higher speed (e.g. 19.2K bps uncompressed).  Has anybody heard
>anything about any new higher speed CCITT standards under development?

I've heard of something called V.fast, which is supposed to REALLY SCREAM!
However, I don't know much about it, or what its vapor factor is.  Does
anyone else?
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.wanted
From: ajd@DIALix.oz.au (Anthony Doig)
Subject: WANTED : Appletalk email products
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 04:32:40 GMT
Keywords: appletalk email

We have a small network of Macs connected thru an AppleTalk network.
Is there an E-Mail product (PD or commercial) available for this type
of setup.  We have looked at Eudora, but this only works on serial or
MacTCP network, not on AppleTalk - or have I got this all wrong.

Any info/hints/help/suggestions/products etc would be greatfully accepted.
(E-Mail is better).

Thanks heaps in advance,

Anthony Doig			| E-mail : ajd@Dialix.oz.au
Corporate Systems Development	| Voice  : +61 9 321 2442
Perth, Western Australia	| Fax    : +61 9 474 2553
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: add@is.rice.edu (Arthur Darren Dunham)
Subject: Re: Source for Quadra to Thicknet Ethernet Transceiver Cable
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 07:30:37 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.153527.6220@qualcomm.com> sdorner@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner) writes:
>Apple chose to call their 15-pin network interface AUI (Apple Universal
>Interface, I think the acronymn is), even thought the 15 pin "AUI"
>thicknet connector has been around for more than a decade, and Apple's
>"AUI" is entirely different.

Actually, I think it's AAUI (Apple (Adapter Unit Interface)?)

>Steve Dorner, Qualcomm, Inc.



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: johnsone@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Erik A. Johnson)
Subject: Hardware Handshaking cable for Mac<-->Modem
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:08:50 GMT

How difficult is it to make a Hardware Handshaking cable to connect a Mac
(SE/30) and an external modem (USR Sportster 14.4)?  Any specs on how to
do this?

Thanks much!


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From: B437807@vmtecqro.qro.itesm.mx (Huh?)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Are there any Internet Macintosh BBS's around???
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:29:04 GMT
Organization: Instituto Tecnologico de Monterrey, Campus Queretaro

Hello there, just asking, i use NCSA telnet here, and wanted to know is are the
re any Internet BBS's for macintosh i could log into, i really want to know thi
s, any information will be apprecciated, thanks in advance...On
From: xmpcwsh@dp7up.com (Bill Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Z-Modem Difficulties
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:03:51 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Dr Pepper Company/The Seven-Up Company, Dallas

In article <1992Sep2.004957.21259@csus.edu> vpcsc11@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (student) writes:
>My coworker and I are having a hard time using
>Z-term to download a program from the Internet.
>We are trying to use the zmodem protocol. 
>At the unix prompt, we type: sz filename and 
>press enter.  The "Z-modem receive" window
>from Z-term pops on the screen for a few seconds, 
>it is followed by a beep, and then it disappears.  We
>have diddled with all of the zmodem parameters that
>we can access in zterm, but to no avail.

Are you dialing into a terminal server?  If so, have you set the binary
flag so that 8 bit characters are passed through unmolested?  That's what
it sounds like.  Also, check and see if your using flow-control.

Bill
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From: tague@omphalos.bug.co.jp (Tague)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: return receipt (medium booring)
Date: 28 Aug 92 05:01:06 GMT
Organization: BUG, Inc.   Sapporo, Japan

In article <1992Aug26.152841.18915@sfn.ORG>, cliff@sfn.ORG (R. Cliff Young) writes:
> How about including the following bit o' magic text in the body of the
> message?
> 	Please reply to acknowledge that you have read and understood
> 	this message.
> That's probably the surest way to get a read receipt, and will work
> with most MUAs.  ;)

Sanity!  It seems like most of the discusion in this thread revolves around 
making a MUA force the user to do something that in the good ole days :-) was
considered common courtsey.  Don't question your MUA, look at the people you 
hire or do business with.  It's seems to be more of a human relation problem,
than a mail problem.
					As was pointed out, I can generally assume that my sent mail reached it's
destination if I don't recieve a bounce message.  Return receipts might have a
valid function in a situation such as BUG's, where our mail is collected by 
kdd and then downloaded by dial-in.  If(When) our mail server goes down,
mail since the mail is recieved by kdd there is no bounce message.  But if
a MUA makes that a user selectable option, then it has lost all its value.  If
I don't receive a receipt then I'm left wondering was the mail lost or did the
user just choose not to send a receipt.
					Furthermore, when I send you a piece of mail, I don't need to spend 100
yen to download some string from MailAgent X indicating that you opened the 
mail at 10:00pm PST.  I need to know what YOU, the *person* I sent the mail to, are 
going to do in response.  That requires a reply, a good old human reply, by
mail, fax, phone, postcard, whatever but not some automated string.  It's just
as easy for the user to hit the reply button as it is for some dialog box to
pop up asking to send a receipt.
					Optional/automated return receipts offer no practical functionallity to
the end user, except for a few exceptional cases - and most of them require 
custom software anyway.  'Nuff said.
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From: lmn@z.amu.se (Lars Magnusson - teacher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: return receipt
Date: 26 Aug 92 08:04:21 MET
Organization: AMU Jamtland, Sweden



In article <1992Aug25.183236.11956@news.eng.convex.com> tchrist@convex.COM (Tom Christiansen) writes:
>From the keyboard of sdorner@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner):
.....
>It's none of anyone's business when I've looked at their mail.
>
>--tom

Well,

If it's private mail your right, but you have a lot of organisations looking 
at email as an alternative to PO-mail/fax. An there you have to have some 
confirmation that the reciver has "done" something with your mail.

In MEMO-net, a rather large scandinavian emailnet, you can even "press"
the reciver to open you letter, by some form of urgency-notification. 
It's not to invade the privacy of the user, but to be able to send out 
important business messages. There have been some missuse, but threat of 
beeing removed from the net in such situations, seems to have stopped the
abusers.




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From: craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: return receipt
Date: 26 Aug 92 01:33:00 GMT
Organization: University of Western Australia

Andy.Linton@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Linton) writes:

>There are many mail gateways providing services for people who pay for the
>privilege of recieving incoming mail so forcing them to pay for possibly two
>more messages sending the return-receipts may be adding unfairly to their bills
>especially if the original message is junk mail.

The messages that get sent back are by and large relatively small.  The
example I know of for mail return was charging a small amount anyway.  It
was charged by the kilobyte sent and for an acknowledgement, this could
hardly reach 1K.

Also, you can just accept it as part of the service.  You will probably be
able to configure your mail reader not to send acknowledgements and there
is always the possibility that incoming mail reciepts will be generated at
no cost by your mail system.

I now just worry what happens when some systems get confused and all start
acknowlegding acknowledgements.  Someone's network is going to look very
silly due to a small configuration error one day :-)

Craig
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: arie@eecs.umich.edu (Arie Covrigaru)
Subject: Tefax RA-2125 Scanner-Fax combination
Reply-To: arie@eecs.umich.edu
Organization: AI Lab, The University of Michigan
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 21:01:15 GMT

Does anyone have experience with a unit called Tefax RA-2125?
It is advertised in the MacWAREHOUSE catalog as a combination
of regular Fax, a scanner, a printer and can be also connected to a Mac
for send/receive Faxes. The software that accompanies it is called
AutoFAX. I would like to know if indeed it is as good as it sounds
and would also like to hear from people with hands on experience.

Thanks,
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From: MacUserLabs@cup.portal.com (Stephan - Somogyi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Higher modem speeds?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 09:49:14 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa
  <1992Aug26.131334.12562@qualcomm.com>

sdorner@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner) writes:

>Qualcomm has (had?) a pair of Motorola V.fast modems. I'm told they were
>indeed quite fast. (I think the base rate is 28.8.) However, the standard
>isn't officially set, so anyone who bought one of these might wind up with
>a proprietary modem instead of a standard one, should the standards
>process make a left turn.

Motorola (Codex , actually) pulled the modems from the market shortly after
intro (they are not, I believe, currently shipping) because the draft
changed again.

However, when I talked to the Codex folks just before they released it,
they promised that anyone who bought one of these units would get a free
upgrade to "real" v.fast once the standard was ratified (they were talking
about the September 93 CCITT meeting).

Unless the v.fast spec changes very drastically (e.g. going back to
multi-carrier or something equally unlikely and earthshattering), they
stand a good chance of pulling it off, since that unit is dsp-based like
the higher-end Telebits rather than dedicated-chip-set-based.

Followups to comp.dcom.modems, please.

__________________________________________________________________________
Stephan Somogyi            puzzle-piece together-putter            MacUser
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: ddl683@csc.albany.edu (Dreaming)
Subject: Re: NewsWatcher Woes
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Hall of Holy Holdsworth, Albany, NY
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 17:22:22 GMT

In article <BtnDz7.DxL@hpbs654.boi.hp.com>, kmarko@hpbs654.boi.hp.com (Kurt
Marko) wrote:

> In article csc.albany.edu (Dreaming) writes:
> >I have a sneaking suspicion that going to MacTCP 1.1 would correct the
> >problem.  I have no evidence to back up this claim, tho'.
 
> Don't count on it...I'm running 1.1 (along with System 7, Tune-Up
> 1.1.1) and still have the problem.  Note also that the Domain Name
> Server address lookup works fine for all applications in my setup, so
> it's not an address resolution problem.

Well, on my Sys7 Mac IIci with MacTCP 1.1, I have no such problems and have
never experienced any real bugs with NewsWatcher at all.  The errors have
only occured on my collegue's Mac IIci, w/6.0.7+MacTCP 1.0.1.  All other IP
programs work normally on his machine; we both connect to the same news
server, and both Macs are on the authorized list and in the name tables. 
Reading news is no problem in either case -- but his NewsWatcher can't get
a .newsrc.

						Derek L.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.mail.misc
Subject: Re: return receipt
From: Andy.Linton@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Andy Linton)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:23:32 GMT
 <1992Aug25.175619.22425@ntg.com> <1992Aug25.212140.23286@qualcomm.com>
Organization: Dept of Comp Science, Victoria Uni, Wellington, NEW ZEALAND


In article <1992Aug25.212140.23286@qualcomm.com>, sdorner@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Steve Dorner) writes:
|> dplatt@ntg.com (Dave Platt) writes:
|> >The advantages to the sendmail approach are
|> >[1] It's difficult for the recipient to subvert the
|> >    receipt process (i.e. prevent the receipt from being returned to
|> >     the sender).
|> >[2] If the recipient later claims that the mail was never
|> >    received, the sender can point to the fact that it _was_ delivered
|> 
|> Ah, now I understand.  Good points, both.
|> 
|> >What I
|> >might do, is implement both - uupc would send back a "delivery receipt"
|> >when the message is delivered locally, and Fernmail would pop up an
|> >"auto-reply" window when the user read the message.
|> 
|> I *like* this plan.  I *like* it a lot.

I was pleased to read that Steve intends to make the MUA return receipt optional
and Dave's message implies the same. I hope that in both cases there can be a
configuration option which allows the user to switch this off if they want to.
It might also be nice to have a list of people that you're prepared to send
these sort of receipts to. That means you can control things a little more
flexibly.

There are many mail gateways providing services for people who pay for the
privilege of recieving incoming mail so forcing them to pay for possibly two
more messages sending the return-receipts may be adding unfairly to their bills
especially if the original message is junk mail.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: sigmond@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Sigmond)
Subject: Re: KanjiTalk / NIFTY-Serve question
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 16:37:21 GMT

In article <OGAWA.92Aug28181020@actor.sm.sony.co.jp> ogawa@sm.sony.co.jp (Masato Ogawa) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.002237.13903@leland.Stanford.EDU> sigmond@leland.Stanford.EDU (Steve Sigmond) writes:
>>    1. When I run NinjaTerm in 8 bit, no parity mode with a generic 2400
>>    modem, I can usually* get the modem to echo correct Kanji. For example, if
>>    I type "ryo", convert to kanji, and hit return, the terminal window
>>    echoes the correct character. However, this does not work for all
>>    characters. 
>>    If I type "a", and then hit return, the character echoed back is not the
>>    hiragana for "a". The errors seem sensitive to settings such as number of
>>    stop bits, local echo, etc. I am using Shift-JIS mode in both NinjaTerm
>>    and the KanjiTalk control panel (I think!)
>
>completely out of my imagination... But give us the information about
>to what, do you connect this NinajTerm&Macintosh? The echoed
>characters are sent "BACK" by the "HOST", not your Macintosh. So the
>problem often resides on the HOST setting. From my experiences, such
>phenomena are caused by the "parity" setting of somewhere in the
>communication path.  As you said, your Mac & NinjaTerm must be OK. How
>about your "HOST"? It must be set as 7bit even parity ? (in the case of
>accidentally matches a parity bit for lower 7 bit of a character in
>SJIS and MSB of that character, you get the right echo back. Unlacky
>case causes bargabe echo back for a character, as you see). You should
>have the HOST set as 8-N-1, too.
>

I was referring to the interaction between the modem and the computer
acting strangely. Before I was able to connect to NIFTY, I tried entering
some Japanese characters and then sending them out the serial port while
offline. What appeared in the NinjaTerm window did not always match what
I sent out. But this isn't too surprising. When connected to NIFTY
via CIS (8 bit no parity, as suggested), everything seems to work.

Thanks for the help...


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: magarret@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (COMPUTER DUDETTE)
Subject: White Knight
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 02:57:35 GMT

I need help!  Ever since I got this new modem, I have nothing but trouble!
Here's the stats:  I have a Mac Classic II, running System 7, and I was using 
ZTerm just fine with my previous modem; I bought a Zoom V.42bis with MNP data 
compression, 2400 bps.  Zterm wouldn't work with it, so I was told I could only
use Smartcomm II for the mac. That works fine, but there are some things I like
about ZTerm, and recently a friend gave me White Knight to try.
What's strange is that sometimes White Knight will work and other times it will
not.  It will dial fine, and then when I try to enter anything from my 
keyboard, it will hang up on me.  I don't have call waiting or anything like 
that.
Someone told me it could be that I don't have a hardware handshaking cable, but
I specifically ordered one and I think it is one; how can you tell?
ZTerm won't work at all although someone assures me it should; it does the same
thing; dials and then hangs up on me.  What do I need to do?
At this point, I am totally confused!
Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can give; if this has been covered 
before, I am sorry; I don't read the newsgroups much.
Marti Garrett
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: gurman@umbra.gsfc.nasa.gov (Joseph B. Gurman)
Subject: Re: Does anyboy have a powerbook running macTCP??
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:04:22 GMT

dewey@centerline.com (Devan F. Dewey) writes:

>In article <NICK.92Sep3133704@vaila.ed.ac.uk>, nick@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Nick
>Rothwell) wrote:
>> 
>> In article <1992Sep2.194126.1258@tolten.puc.cl> atreyus@lascar.puc.cl (Marcelo Vasquez) writes:
>> 
>>    Hi : I tried to set up a powerbook 170 with MacTCP over an
>>    appletalk that is connected to a falshcard to the ethernet. Well, it
>>    just doesn't work. I have no problems with the other macs (all with
>>    system 7) but this only powerbook is not working. I am using manual
>>    addressing and telnet 2.4
>> 
>> I have a PowerBook 140 running MacTCP 1.1 into a Kinetics Fastpath, with
>> NCSA Telnet 2.5 and so on. No problemo. (I'm on SUMEX right at this moment.)
>> 


>All our PowerBooks run MacTCP 1.1 and Telnet 2.4.02 and 2.5 through
>GatorBoxes with no problem.

    And we have a PB170 with MacTCP 1.1 and NCSA Telnet 2.5 running
through a DaynaPort E/Z, no problem.

						Joe Gurman
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