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Subject: Re: Throwing Muses was Re: Acoustical Guitar?
From: winer@husc8.harvard.edu (Adam Winer)
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:21:41 GMT

tsai@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Joe Tsai) writes:

>In article <kbennett.717867919@milton> kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess) writes:
>>Re EARLY Throwing Musess:
>>
>>reasons all of them.  I like a band that can change and grow and have something
>>worthwhile in all of their different work.  But the person who said that
>>the 4AD album helps you understand the depth of their 'emotional side' was
>>right.  I put "Delicate Cutters" on a lot of my most intense mix tapes.
>>
>>Someone offered to make me a tape of "Chains Changed" so that I could see
>>what TM was up to even before the 4AD album, which I'd love to hear, but
>>I never got a tape or heard from him again.  
>>
>>Lena
>--------------------

>Wait wait wait wait wait!  What is "Chains Changed"?  You said that it was 
>even before the 4AD one?  Must be quite a piece of work.  In one interview I
>read with Kristin Hersch, she said that they had been playing for about 5 
>years before they ever recorded the first, self-titled album.  I suppose that's
>why it's the one that's most emotional and powerful.  I wonder if anyone can
>tell me anything about "Chains Changed", though, like what it's like or, more
>importantly, how I can get it.  I imagine that it's not too easy, as the first
>album is only available on import and is still hard to find, despite their
>current rise in popularity.

Chains Changed was a 4 song ep they put out on 4AD AFTER the first album.
It's really good;  it includes a Beatles song that I think they just put
out on another single; I'm sure it's a different version.
On that topic: the song Backroad on Red Heaven was released as "Matter
of Degrees" on the soundtrack to the movie of the same name.  It's a
different version;  for one thing, this version includes Tanya Donelly.

Adam
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From: kudla@acm.rpi.edu (Robert Kudla)
Subject: Re: Faith No More Antics
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:44:10 GMT

In <BvoLpy.n1x@acsu.buffalo.edu> camvkkas@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Todd Schlesinger) writes:

>	Apparently, Mike Patton, at a private party for 97Rock a local 
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>buffalo station exposed himself and performed lewd acts with the 
>microphone and with the guitar neck of one band member. This according

>My opinion, this act was uncalled for and disgusting.


In my opinion, if it took place at a "private party", radio station or
not, then it's none of anyone else's business *what* he did with
himself.  Childish, perhaps, but musical geniuses are allowed to be
childish, thank you. 

Rob
From: mole@cellar.org (Jim Hostetter)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: URGE OVER KILL??????????
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:58:36 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

winer@husc8.harvard.edu (Adam Winer) writes:

> In article <qgeZRB2w164w@cellar.org> mole@cellar.org (Jim Hostetter) writes:
> >I think "Now That's the Barclords" is about as close to perfection as one
>                  ^^^^^^^^^
> Where's this song? I've got the Americruiser/Jesus Urge Superstar CD
> and the Supersonic Storybook tape.  If it's their best song, wow!

"Barclords" was originally released as a SubPop Singles Club single last
year, with "What is this Generation Coming to?" on the B-side.  Both of
these songs are also on their latest release, _Stull_.

Jim


________________________________________________________

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      Philadelphia, PA   Cellar BBS:  215 336 9503
From: jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Smiths "Charming Man" out in US yet?
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:05:55 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <BvEAA6.C2L@acsu.buffalo.edu> v115p8d6@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I have a cunning plan...) writes:

>Yes, they have been released in the U.S. The major record store here
>(in Buffalo) carries multiple copies of both cd singles in the import 
>section. 

>there is also a cd single containing tracks not on the Best of...
>does it seem like the record company is trying to make money?
>:-(

A record company making money? Geee, where'd ya get that idea from....
:)

Jack
jis@panix.com

PS: I'm a Smiths fan, but I personally find this whole new "revival"
(Meaning, reissues of old stuff)  to be a blatant money making scheme.  I
mean, how many of the "new" rereleases are worth getting?  (Unless you are
a fanboyish perfectionist)
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From: bt@bailey.u.washington.edu (bt garner)
Subject: Re: Pop Will Eat Itself's New CD?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:30:15 GMT

In the yet unpublished autobiography titled <ibhan.718038667@husc8>,
ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan) writes:
>v114mdun@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT) writes:
>>	Does anyone know if The Poppies have a new album out yet?  Heard a 
>>song from them that sounded new, but I'm not sure if it is.  It's called 
>>Happy or something like that.  Info greatly appreciated.  Please E-mail or 
>>post to this group. Thanks.
>
>The new album, called "The Looks or the Lifestyle" should be out soon.

Soon == October 27 (if you live in the US).

-bt
bt@cpac.washington.edu


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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 20:04:03 EDT
From: David B. Kramer <DK4984A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Cure bootleg info needed

Hi there...

I was at a record show recently and I picked up a copy of _Never Enough_, a
Cure 2-CD bootleg, and all it says is that it was recorded "during the summer
festival tour 1990"... Does anyone know a specific date/ location for this
disc?

David Kramer
dk4984a@american.edu
From: d91-jal@dront.nada.kth.se (Johan Almen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: PEARL JAM TABLOID TYPE CRAP.
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:51:31 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

>In article gunnarh@dhhalden.no (GUNNAR HORRIGMO) writes:

>Or they can't deal with eachother. According to some friends of mine, PJ 
>started fighting eachother on stage at the Roskilde festival in Danmark, and 
>had to leave half-way in the show. The consert the da after in Oslo was 
>canselled on grounds of illness. *hah*

Not true. Eddie Vedder got into some sort of trouble with a person in
the audience, and had a go with the guy. When he wanted to get back up
on the stage, the security personnel didn4t recognize him, and didn't
let him back up onto the stage until Dave Krusen told them who he was.



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From: eshneken@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Edward A Shnekendorf)
Subject: Copper Blue
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:04:33 GMT

Thanks to every one who recommended Copper Blue.  I went out and got it
and as you all said it is excellent.  Thanks again.

Ed.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Cure: I Wish...
From: ibhan@husc8.harvard.edu (Ishir Bhan)
Date: 30 Sep 92 22:43:21 GMT

>"Rape me like a child... christened in blood... painted like an unknown saint... 
>the only choice is left... your voice is dead and old and always empty..."
>vs.
>"Monday Tuesday Wednesday blahblahblah..."

>Even Lovesong was great IMOFOSPO because it took convention and turned it on
>its head... "Whenever I'm alone with you/You make me feel like I am free again"
>                                                                        
>So let's just lay it on the line... once the Cure made some good music... as
>recently as 1989 by my count, but the best was 1980-1982. So I'm not a "real
>fan" for no longer adoring them? Oh no! Certainly not like those high school
>kids with their _Wish_ t-shirts!! 
>> 
>> it's funny to see all these trendy boppy types wearing cure shirts these 
>> days. (morrissey shirts too). i have even had people tell me about "this 
>> new band called the cure". i sit and laugh at them and show them some of 
>> my cure material dated 1978. they just sit there and look stupid. i'll 
>> always love the cure, no matter how they sound. so long as they are 
>> making music to please themselves and not the world then they're okay by 
>> me.

>Yeah I must say I can't hate the Cure for making a trashy album. But I'll be
>damned if I'll listen to anyone try and say that they're "alternative" these
>days or that the new stuff is good and I should adore them. Respect for an
>individual should be separate from respect for their art. And people shouldn't
>be so blind as to love anything a favorite group makes.

I agree, but I see far to much of Wish=Friday I'm In Love.  That song was
really the main reason Wish got so much attention (as compared to
Disintegration).  It was really the only true "Top 40" song on the album. 
I thought it was pretty stupid, but the rest of the album is pretty good. 
In fact, I thought some songs were a lot more like their older stuff than
the previous two (Kiss Me X 3 and Disintegration) were.  I liked "High" a
lot (one of my all time Cure favorites, and I've been a fan for a while),
"From The Edge Of The Deep Green Sea", "A Letter To Elise", "To Wish
Impossible Things", "Trust", and even "Doing The Unstuck" was a nice
diversion.

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From: blc@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Bradford Lee Chamberlain)
Subject: Re: NIN does Adam Ant
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 06:21:08 GMT

In addition to the two songs hidden back at tracks 98 and 99, 
there seemed to be a blip of noise about at track 50.

What other CD's do people know of with technology tricks?

I guess some copies of Nevermind had a hidden track after 10 
minutes of silence after the last track.

I think TMBG's Apollo has a bunch of 10-second blurbs which
is supposed to be making listening to the album on scramble
more fun (sortof like musical commercials...)

Camoflauge's first album had the sounds of a record starting
up before the first song, which took a minute to register in
my mind as being weird.  Then they start laughing at you...

-Brad
blc@xenon.stanford.edu
From: diverson@phys.ksu.edu (David Iverson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Yo La Tengo
Date: 3 Oct 1992 03:41:54 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: bohr.phys.ksu.edu


All I know is that Georgia gets my vote for totally cute!


(and i'd say the VU stuff isn't as far off as one might think.)

-diversion

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From: hall@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Michael Hall)
Subject: Cocteau Twins - boxed CD set
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:39:59 GMT

I've been eyeing the Cocteau Twins' boxed CD set for a while now,
but the box doesn't give much of a clue about what's in there.
I saw the word "single" on there, which makes me think it's just
a bunch of CD singles.  Not even the four song EP's?  No albums?
What *is* in there?  Is it worth $70?

Also, I once saw a Japanese pressing of this boxed set, for nearly
double the price.  Is it worth ~$130?  What's the difference?

Incidentally, I have all the records up until the last couple of CD's,
when I switched to CD's.

-- 
Michael Hall            \"Your blackjack bankroll behaves much like a portfolio
NASA Ames Research Center\ of stocks.  A mathematician would describe it as
hall@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov \following a random walk with an upward drift." -Wong
From: wheeler8161@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: sonic youth in concert
Date: 3 Oct 92 16:32:00 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

i attended the sonic youth concert in davenport, ia. on october 1 after waiting
practically forever (this being iowa).  anyway, after waiting so long i was
really disappointed.  they only played for a little over an hour (including the
encore) and played almost entirely new stuff.  they played most of dirty, kool
thing and dirty boots, expressway to your skull, and maybe one more.  i was
really kind of pissed.  i realize that no one wants sonic youth to be the beach
boys and play the same songs for twenty five years but they could have
acknowledged the fact that they do have fans that have been around for more
than the last album.  even more, though, was the length of the show.  i thought
that a group that has maintained integrity for that long would show a little of
it in concert.  what they did play though was performed very well.

anyway, i was wondering of other people got screwed the same way or if sonic
youth just didn't give a shit since they were playing in iowa.

xian

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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Dream Academy : 1st ALBUM
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:42:40 GMT
Organization: Mr. Lazlo's Temple Of The Mighty Rude-Boy Skank

schrey@prc.unisys.com writes:

>   Could you please get the serial/disk no. or whatever off the CD?
>   I'm going to try to order this as an import and would really like
>   the disc number.

The US catalog number for _Dream Academy_ is Warner 25265-2; the UK/German
number is Reprise 925 265-2.  Great album.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

"maybe I didn't love you"
From: Nathan.H.Saunders@dartmouth.edu (Nathan H. Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: CD tricks (Re: NIN does Adam Ant)
Date: 3 Oct 92 14:45:53 GMT
 <1992Sep26.003152.7587@mixcom.com>  
 <1992Oct3.062108.22751@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
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In article <1992Oct3.062108.22751@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>
blc@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Bradford Lee Chamberlain) writes:

> I guess some copies of Nevermind had a hidden track after 10 
> minutes of silence after the last track.
> 

This is an idea they ripped of from Front 242 (_Tyranny for You_), who
ripped it off from Negativland (_Escape from Noise_), who ripped it off
from the Beatles ("Her majesty" on _Abbey Road_).  Probably there are
others, too.

There was a recent alternative-type CD on which the final track was
spread out over a few dozen tracks...  After the introduction, it
started counting up tracks at about one second per track.  Of course I
can't remember the band or title.

Rollins Band's _Turned on_ and Skinny Puppy's _Ain't it Dead Yet_ are
both mastered as one track.  They're both complete live sets, meant to
be listened to as a whole without skipping around.  This is more an
annoyance than a trick, in my opinion.
From: v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Beautiful South/Housemartins QUESTION
Keywords: Lead singer
Date: 3 Oct 92 21:21:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	A quick question:  Is the lead singer for the 'Beautiful South' also
the former lead singer of the 'Housemartins'??  I think he is, but I'm not
sure.  Thanks.

Jonny B.
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From: mtl2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Gretchen M)
Subject: morrissey live
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: bgsu
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:29:36 GMT

	Morrissey....live in Cleveland...9-25-92.
 I must say it was sooooo much exciting than the Cure...the teeny boppers
were'nt around every corner wearing their Wish shirts, but needless to say,
there were many annoying people who chose to be assholes to Morrissey. I
couldn't believe all of the people who were trying to tear his clothes
off......please...let the man sing! The show lasted about 70 minutes, very
short, but all worth it. I was disappointed that Morrissey excluded many of
his older songs, but oh well Suedehead is my favorite and as long as he
played that one, I'm  satisfied. I do wish that the Smiths never broke up
though......sob sob....I just hope that Morrissey doesn't let all of this
stardom crap, shirt pulling, tambourine throwing stuff go to his head. The
fact he was on Hangin with MTV disappointed me enough..I couldn't bear to
see this man's face all over teeny bopper's shirts when he tours again. One
more question: why must people instantly put on concert shirts the minute
they by them? How freaking annoying!!!!!!!!!! Oh well, Gretchen.
From: jjwright@remus.rutgers.edu (   Jay)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: too much joy/red hot chili peppers
Date: 28 Sep 92 17:24:46 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


does anyone have any ideas about what too much joy is doing about
touring?  are they touring?  are they alone?  are they opening for
someone?  should i look for them with someone big at an arena or will
they be visiting my local joes tavern bar and postoffice hole in the
wall?  this mail is coming from new jersey, but tell me any any any
dates any any any where..  :)

on an aside, does anyone have the chili peppers best of cd?  or know
whats on it.  just curious.  anything new??

jay

jjwright@remus.rutgers.edu
From: john@csufres.CSUFresno.EDU (John)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: important MORRISSEY question
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:30:30 GMT
Organization: California State University, Fresno

In article <92270.105958N88BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <N88BC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>Can there truely be an important question about Morrissey? The Smiths were good
> in their time, but hell, you have to grow up some day.

From simple curiousity (I've no axe to grind), is Morrissey calling
himself celibate, heterosexual, or homosexual these days?  I heard he
had a song on a promo CD from The Advocate, along with a song from
K.D. Lang and other open homosexuals. 

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From: websterm@uproar.enet.dec.com (Mike Webster)
Subject: Re: new order/happy monda
Reply-To: Mike.Webster@ime.mts.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Distribution: alt
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 13:26:44 GMT



 I've seen New Order at the same gig as the Mondays, they are both 
 Factory bands. The gig in question was a Factory gig, years
 ago in London. By the way it was one of the best New Order gigs
 I've attended, I lost count after 10 or so in 1985. NO came on, 
 announced themselves a Joy Division, and did Blue Monday as an
 encore.

 Mike London UK.
From: eftv03@castle.ed.ac.uk (L R Watt)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ebeneezer Goode...
Date: 29 Sep 92 09:40:47 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University, UK

In article <1992Sep29.002752.7910@tamsun.tamu.edu> 
                  cqn1676@tamsun.tamu.edu (Dr. Strangelove) writes:
>I heard the other day that the song Ebeneezer Goode is about the drug
>ecstasy (sp?).  Isn't this kinda strange since Wil Sin died drowning after
>taking a large hit of x?  Also, what was he in the band?  Or was he just a
>producer?

   He was the bass player.  Although traces of something were
found in his bloodstream, I'm not sure how much this had to
do with his death.  As for the song, Colin Angus maintains it's
just about some shady character he once met, but bloody hell!
We're not that stupid!  Techno songs are notoriously unambiguous
about drugs, and this would seem to be no exception.

Lindsay.
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From: mdw@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Matt Welsh)
Subject: Re: Give me a bomb!  A malatov! <-artist?
Organization: Cornell Theory Center
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 00:12:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.180339.10203@uoft02.utoledo.edu> steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason "Think!" steiner) writes:
>i don't know what group it is, but the coup detat is "The sudden,
>violent overthrow of a government". molotov cocktails are just bottles
>filled with gasoline & hurled at whatever establishment types you'd
>like to roast... 
>
>i think we can rule out TMBG. :^)
>

Sounds like Debbie Gibson to me. Maybe her new album has changed styles a bit.


mdw
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Systems Programmer, Cornell Theory Center
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From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf))
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Ebeneezer Goode...
Date: 30 Sep 1992 04:26:16 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <djd.717774861@reading> djd@csg.cs.reading.ac.uk (David J Dawkins) writes:
>chris@Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE (Christian Bartholdsson) writes:
>
>>The chorus goes "E's are good!  E's are good!", so it's pretty obvious it's
>>about ecstacy.  But the boys say that they made the song only to ridicule all
>>E-taking idiots they've met at raves.  But at the same time (just like the Orb,
>>who seem to be constantly stoned) they seem very pro-drugs when they're being interviewed.  It's all a bit confusing.

I think it's fucking brilliant.  Make a song that's absolutely pro-E, no
questions asked, and then tell the press it was all done in the name of
sarcasm and it's anti-E.  That way you can preach to the converted on _both_
ends of the spectrum!!!!

Now if only the song itself had merit...

	Brian

p.s. - Was X found to be the cause in Will's death?
From: steiner@jupiter.cse.utoledo.edu (jason "Think!" steiner)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: broken NIN?
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:54:06 GMT

kim@i5160e.nrl.navy.mil (Ellis Kim) writes:
> do i have a broken "broken"? or is my "broken" okay?
> help me out, please. 

pinion starts out really quiet, so it should be ok. check the back
of your CD. if it's not scratched don't worry. that's about the only
way your CD could have been hurt. ("Oh yeah?! what about when i run
over it with my chainsaw, pour acid on it, dump it in a blender & 
use it to make Orange Julius?") seriously, as long as it's in one
piece & has no scratches everything is cool.

jason

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