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Date: Thu,  7 Jan 1993 02:14:58 -0500 
From: Robert Edward Timlin <rt16+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: ST V

collofel@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (Upsilon Pi Epsilon) writes:

>  For all those who have been knocking on STV, keep in mind that the
>bulk of the movie is a dream that was dreamt while they were in
>Yosemite.  Obviously, one can not say that it is definately a
>dream; but, one can not say it definately isn't either.

     Actually, this was all made clear in a scene that was left on the
cutting room floor. It comes right before the final scene where everybody
sings "Row, row, row your boat":

     Kirk, in his sleeping bag in Yosemite, awakens as sunlight falls across
his face. He blinks several times, still appears bleary eyed, then puts his
hand to his head and groans loudly as he sits up.

McCoy: (In a strained voice, obviously in pain) "Not so loud, Jim! I've got a
       hangover bigger than Half Dome over there."

Spock: "Unnnnnhh!"

Kirk: "Bones, if you EVER put any more of that secret ingredient into dinner
       again, I will KILL you." (holds head with both hands, rolls eyes) "You
       wouldn't believe the nightmare I had last night."
McCoy: "I dunno, I had a really stupid dream myself... Ohhh!"

Spock: (Still lying down, eyes closed, grimacing just a little) "It is not
       logical that one's head should hurt this severely."

McCoy: (getting up slowly, reaching for the coffee pot) "Scotty must have been
       into my liquor cabinet again, drank all my supply and substitued some
       of that phaser coolant he brews down in engineering." (looks at hand in
       front of his face, making sure his eyes still work) "Blasted stuff'll
       blind him one of these days. Wouldn't that be a sight? A blind chief
       engineer!"
Spock: (Now sitting up very slowly) "The substance's effects are more akin to
       those of a psychedelic hallucinogenic than alcohol, I would say. I
       actually dreamed I had a half-brother. Most illogical."

Kirk: (Snorting at that last remark) "And how. Bones, get that coffee going.
      I'm going to go stick my head into the stream. With any luck, I'll drown
      so I won't have to deal with this hangover." (gets to his feet slowly)

Spock: (also slowly rising) "I believe I shall accompany you."

McCoy: (lighting a fire to heat the coffee) "Well, don't get lost, I'll have
       this ready in a few minutes." (drops a cup, all wince at the loud noise)

Kirk: "Bones, please keep it down! Bad enough all these birds are shrieking at
      the top of their lungs..." (the sedate chirping of forest birds is heard)

Spock: (Holding head) "One would hope we will be recovered by evening. I would
       not wish to miss another opportunity to roast marsh melons and sing
       around the camp fire..."

Kirk gives Spock a dirty look as they tromp off into the woods, and the scene
fades into the final campfire scene.

     One hopes that they will add this footage back in, kind of what they did
with ST VI, or just put out a "Special Longer Version" like with ST:TMP. IMHO,
they really shouldn't have cut it in the first place. Gives completely the
wrong impression of the film.

:-)

                                              -Robb Timlin
                                               rt16@andrew.cmu.edu
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