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From: herr@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Gabor Herr)
Subject: Re: AMD386 vs. Intel386 & external cache problems
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:33:58 GMT
Organization: TU Darmstadt
Keywords: AMD 386 Intel cache

In article <1992Aug13.130554.14600@crd.ge.com>, davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen) writes:
> In article <1992Aug12.153149.29972@news.th-darmstadt.de>, herr@hp11.iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Gabor Herr) writes:

...

>   My thought was a heat problem. I could rule out your case since it
> failed in your friend's machine (nice to have a friend who will swap a
> motherboard with you), but the second possibility is that you had the
> chip in a different place which got less cooling in both cases. I would
> have suggested cooling the CPU with a hair drier set on cold air
> setting, just to test the hypothesis. I would recommend heating the chip
> because of possible damage (although I might do it on my own system).
> 

I've forgot to mention, but I had this idea too. I cooled the CPU and the cache 
controller chip with a cooling fan (I hope this is the name for it :-) ),
because these two chips were the only ones getting hot. And there was another
cooling effect too: after I was tired of removing and installing the boards in my
case, I just let the machine run open on my desk without the case.
But nothing of this helped. The tests failed with or without cooling.


Gabor


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Gabor Herr			Email: herr@iti.informatik.th-darmstadt.de
Computer Science Department
Technical University of Darmstadt, Germany
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: Does Linux allow more than 8 partitions on a single drive?
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 04:25:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.023033.19640@nas.nasa.gov> chiu@wk211.nas.nasa.gov (Ing-Tsau Chiu) writes:
>I set up DOS, OS2 boot manager and Linux as primary partitions and an
>extended partition w/ 3 DOS/OS2 logical drives and 1 Linux logical
>partition.  I noticed that for scsi drive, Linux only has /dev/sda1 to
>/dev/sda8.  Wonder if it is OK to create /dev/sda9 with mknod to allow
>more than 8 partitions under Linux.

Yes - you can get 15 partitions on a SCSI drive,
with the first four being the "normal" real partitions,
the last 11 being extended partitions.

-- 
Microsoft is responsible for propogating the evils it calls DOS and Windows, 
IBM for AIX (appropriately called Aches by those having to administer it), but neither is as bad as AT&T.  Boycott AT&T, and let them know how you feel.
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Screen Capture
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:59:58 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <4866@sumax.seattleu.edu>, khamer@sumax.seattleu.edu (Little Kenny Hamer) writes:
| Does anyone out there know where I can find a utility to save data from
| GNU plot in, say, a .GIF or other common graphics form?  I'd really rather
| not write my own if I have a choice....Any suggestions would be appreciated.

  I have two suggestions, each uglier than the other.

  You can do the output to file in Postscript, get the ghostscript
program, do pstoppm, get ppm and do ppmtogif.

  You can add ppm as one of the supported output types of gnuplot and be
a benefactor of mankind.

  Naturally I wish you would do output to ppm, with the color stuff from
the vga/X code, so that we could have really nifty output, and to pbm
using the laserjet code, so we could see it on cheap X terminals.

-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Paid Linux coordinator? 
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 02:51:33 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

In article <1992Aug10.172855.29777@crd.ge.com> davidsen@crd.ge.com writes:

   In article <713112590snx@crynwr.com>, nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)    writes:
   | Is there any interest in paying someone to be a Linux coordinator?

     Arrrgh! Linux is a fine learning tool as it is, why try to make it
   something it's not? At some point maybe someone like Cygnus will grab a
   copy, stabilize it, and offer it for a few bucks, but for now if you
   slow it down the excitement will burn out and you will wind up with a
   lot less to coordinate!

Okay, call the person the "Linux secretary", then.  Someone to pick
up the slack that a volunteer doesn't feel like filling.  Here are
possible some lines for the coordinator's job description taken from
a previous posting of yours:

     I would like to see people put some effort into packaging the
   software, so I could, for instance, grab a 'ps' package and just compile
   it and run. I'm willing to compile for every new kernel, I'm less
   willing to grab headers from some other package, diddle a bunch of
   s_links which seem to change between versions, etc.

     True, although a directory of what files are where and what's really
   in them would be a big help. Just a list of what kernels work with what
   packages would be great. With a comment like "must ps -U to run" or
   "works, but must recompile with new kernel includes," or something like
   that. 

One of the things the coordinator could do is sell Linux floppy sets.
That would help fund the position...

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com>  I'm proud to be a humble Quaker!
Crynwr Software            Crynwr Software sells packet driver support.
11 Grant St.               315-268-1925 Voice
Potsdam, NY 13676          315-268-9201 FAX
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Linux Standards (was: Stabilizing Linux)
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria B.C. CANADA
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 23:49:35 GMT

In article <1992Aug16.221736.9732@athena.mit.edu> tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:
>
>   From: danielce@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (Daniel AMP Carosone)
>   Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 00:47:18 GMT
>
>   Even ignoring the factions and parties building releases, it is an
>   excellent idea to have a standards document to which releases must
>   conform rather than a release to which the standard must conform.  
>
>I disagree.  Most usuable standards in the world come about by adopting
>an already working implementation and declaring it to be a standard.
>Most unworkable standards in the world happen because they were designed
>by a committee, which typically consist of pompous people who just sit
>around a table, and who are not, generally, the people who would
>actually be doing the implementation.
>
>If you want an example of this, just look at the Internet --- the
>Internet "standards" were first done by having working implementations,
>which were then annointed as the standard.  In contrast, you have the
>OSI standards --- which were designed by committee without having any
>implementation experience --- and what you end up with is a disaster.


Oh yes, and don't forget X400.

...
>
>However, without this, you have to face the fact that you will have a
>non-trivial amount of people with relatively little Unix system
>experience that will be constantly spouting off and you either have to
>outright ignore them --- which doesn't tend to go over well if you want
>to at least have the pretense of democracy --- or you have to spend a
>lot of time and energy teaching them why they are broken.

I've got a great idea.  Lets develop a modified mailing list that is split
into 10 subgroups: linux-activists0 through linux-activists9.  Each person 
could subscribe to any *one* of them that they like, but here is the catch.
Each subscriber would be graded, between 0 and 9, after subscription, based
upon the amount they have contributed to the Linux effort.  And (Oh, I love 
this part), we could have a committee that would decide and revise that grade, 
ya.  Linus, I assume, would get an automatic 9.   But maybe the committee 
would decide that that was inappropriate. ;-)

Now, whatever level a user subscribed to, he would only receive postings from
users >= that grade.  ie. subscribing to linux-activists1, would automatically
filter out all the zero's (and are there ever a chestfull of them out there
to filter).  

>
>						- Ted

Peter.
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux CDROM (Was stabilizing Linux)
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:45:46 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Aug12.020246.22166@wimsey.bc.ca>, bhenning@wimsey.bc.ca (Bill Henning) writes:
| 3.75Gb/process would be great! I am not likely to need that ofcourse, nor will
| I likely have a swap partition much greater than 10-20Mb, but fewer limitations
| are allways welcome.
| 
| Now if the number of processes are also increased from 64 to say 1024 that would
| be great! (yes, I can see running out of 64 processes)

  I can see running out of 64 processes a lot faster than running out of
64MB address space. I certainly am not running that much memory and
swap. Actually, with 12MB I can compile the kernel while reading mail
and still not swap. I know, because I don't even have a swap area,
haven't run out of memory yet.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cole@concert.net (Derrick C. Cole)
Subject: problem compiling 0.97pl1.5 with gcc2.2.2d
Organization: MCNC Data Operations
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 16:46:25 GMT

Greetings!

Using the 96c bootimage, and after installing gcc2.2.2d and the 0.97 source
and patches, I am able to compile the kernel sans problem.

However, after the unix socket init, I get an unstoppable list of

[ ...lots of error stuff deleted... ]
kernel panic: no free inodes in mem
[ ...lots of error stuff deleted... ]

I haven't read of any other instance of this (is the elusive hd.c patch
related to this?)

Any and all help will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks,
Derrick

P.S.  I am compiling the entire kernel (SCSI, ext fs, msdos, everything.)

-- 
"Have you ever tried to clean bits of chow mein out of a keyboard?  It isn't
pretty."
                       -- unknown
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: nnhut@bnr.ca (Nhut Nguyen)
Subject: fdformat on 5.25 drives.
Keywords: format, floppy
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:00:27 GMT

Hello Linuxers,

I have a question regarding fdformat. For some reasons, I can not format
5.25 HD diskettes on my drive. 3.5 diskettes are formatted just fine. 
Any of you is experiencing this problem ?

I am using Linux version 0.97pl1 and root file system from the 
MCC-interim version.

I use 

fdformat /dev/fd1h1200    

for 5.25 HD diskettes on my drive, and get a bunch of errors during
the verification phase. (A lot of noise from the drive and
'sector not found' messages.) For 3.5 diskettes, there is no problem.
And I am able to access (read,write) 5.25 diskettes formatted by MS-LOSS.

Do I need to set the parameters before fomatting ? If so, where can
I get the setfdparm program and what are the values of
necessary parameters? Thanks in advance for any information.

Cheers,

Nhut.

P.S.
Millions of thanks to all of you who have brought together
a wonderful OS. I know this is repetition, but
just want to express my gratitude. :-)
--
+=============================================================================+
| Nhut Nguyen                  |    Internet:   nnhut@bnr.ca                  |
| BNR Ltd., Ottawa, Canada     |    "Oogawa oto wo tatezu..."                 |
+=============================================================================+
From: pdp@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Paul Douglas Page)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Getty security bug ?
Date: 15 Aug 92 06:40:25 GMT
Organization: University of Melbourne

without logging out correctly the session remains active so the next caller gets to coninue on with the previous callers session. It happens with both my internal and external modems so it's not a cable problem.
Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
From: jjsf@gmv.es (Julio Sanchez)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux Diskette Distribution
Keywords: distribution, money, muchos
Date: 12 Aug 92 10:34:53 GMT
Organization: Grupo de Mecanica del Vuelo, S.A. (GMV), Madrid, Spain

In article <1992Aug11.152247.5160@cs.wisc.edu> djansa@aphrodite.cs.wisc.edu (Dean Jansa) writes:
>
>Being a student, I know money is not that easy to come up with.  I would
>hate to see a student not be able to get linux because they can't come
>up with 60 bucks.  19 disks??  What on earth are you giving them?  I got
>the mcc release on 4!  5 more for X!!  I _know_ that doesn't cost
>$60 bucks.  Any student would be willing to pay for the disks, but 60 
>bucks??

What's the problem? You can get Linux for free, just find someone that
will give it to you. You know no one? Well, you have several options.
Find a nearby BBS and download it. Get a free-ride on your University
FTP or mail service to get it. Or pay a commercial service
to give you a link. Or pay someone to put it on disks for you. And
they can charge whatever they want for it just as anyone else. This
is not forbidden by the GPL. What is forbidden is to impose limits
on redistribution. Join a few friends and share the cost. I probably
will and save me the burden to go around umpteen mail servers
and save the company the cost for something that is outside their
interest. You can do that. You probably can get the free-ride but 
many people will find $60 cheap when compared to other options. Believe 
me. Phone connection time to a BBS does cost money. So does Internet
or electronic mail. Spare time does cost too, maybe not money, but it 
is very dear to me.

>Let's keep Linux alive and well, and FREE!!

The GPL is about freedom not price. These people are doing nothing
that hurts you. You are not going to have to pay because of these
people. No one is hurt by this. They make Linux available to more 
people. The price is not an issue, even if they make big money,
that I am not saying they will. I don't know if Linus foresaw this, 
but it is within the scope of the GPL. Most of the GNU software we
have around here came in paid-for CD-ROMs. It's cheaper for us. 
That's what this is all about. Let people get Linux the cheapest 
way they can. The floor price is $0.00 and no one has changed that. 
No one able to get it for free before is being denied that right now. 
People not able to get it before *at all* are getting a chance. Many 
are getting another option. This can only help to keep Linux "alive
and well".

Sorry if I sound harsh, that was not the intention.

Julio

-- 
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Ph. +34 1 807 21 85 | jsanchez@gmv.es                 | Traveller, there is no
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From: apm233m@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Installing tex without X11 ?
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:20:47 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

I am trying to install TeX but I am having trouble with MetaFont.
When I try to use the mf binary obtained from a linux site, it
dies complaining about not finding /bin/X11.1.1 (or something
like that). I don't intend to use X11 yet, but it seems that I
may be forced to install this file. Where can I get it? I can't
find it on the linux site.
-- 
---------------
Bill Metzenthen
Mathematics Department
Monash University
Australia
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: dsb@world.std.com (David Boyce)
Subject: Re: shared libs - can everyone be happy with this?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 16:36:16 GMT

Is the jump table stuff going back to FSF to become part of main-line GCC?
Or is there something linux-specific in the implementation?
-- 
David Boyce	dsb@world.std.com	617-576-1540
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.)
Subject: Re: bash & (literal) ESCape character
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 02:01:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.230512.132343@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jjk1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Konsultant Josh/fuzzy.happy.green.box) writes:
>(This could be solved when I actually pull some stuff off the .97 root
>disk as opposed to just using .97pl1+, but I would doubt it...)
>
>When using bash, theoretically pressing \ before an ESC should give
>you an escape character.  This is tremendously useful for things like
>the echo sequence that will change the title bar of an xterm.
>Unfortunately, I haven't been able to enter an ESCape without the
>shell interpreting it.  Does anyone have an easy solution, or is this
>a bash recompilation-type of thing?

Um, I don't know that the \ key normally does any sort of interactive
quoting like you describe - to enter a literal 'escape' at the command
line, use C-V ESC.  (Control-V, then ESC.)

You could redefine the \ key to be the quoted-insert key, but then
you'd have to type \ twice to get a real \ on the command line.
-- 
                                    +      Jim Winstead Jr. (CSci '95)
                                    |      Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
                                    |   jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
                                    + or jwinstea@fenris.Claremont.EDU
From: simonich@uservx.plk.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How do I get >14 characters in filename ?? (FAQ?)
Date: 20 Aug 92 20:29:54 GMT
Organization: Phillips Laboratory - Kirtland AFB

In article <1992Aug20.214219.27510@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, bjones@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (William A Jones) writes:
> I seem to remember a discussion about being able to get more than 14
> characters in a file name under the newer versions of linux.
> 
> I am running 0.97 patch level 1 with rootimage 0.97 utilities and shell
> and cannot get over 14 characters.  Am I misunderstanding something and
> this feature is not yet available?  Or is there something that I still
> have to do?
> 
> Thanks for the help
> 
> Bill
So far as I know you must be using the extented file system.
This allows file names on the order of 256 characters (even RMS doesn't
use names this long).

Get the efs mkefs and efsck from tsx-11.mit.edu ALPHA.

(BTW yes it can be used for a root system.  The kernel mounts
check for Minix magic numbers, if these fail it checks for efs)

If you have specific questions about efs, post again and hope one
of the experts reply.

thh n
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: steinber@machtnix.ert.rwth-aachen.de (Dirk Steinberg H tenhagen)
Subject: Re: Re: Lucid GNU Emacs 19.2 available
Organization: /home/e2/steinber/.organization
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:48:38

If there is demand for it, I can post the source diffs (rather than the entire source
code which can be gotten from labrea.stanford.edu), but that might take some time
since I'll be on vacation shortly and very busy next week. Also, note that I'm not
too happy with my current port because it's not shared (library) and I have trouble
with the shell mode (BTW: I use bash 1.12--tcsh works, but without job control).

I consider this a quick hack so my diffs would not qualify for merging back into the 
distribution and I don't have time to clean them up. Also I need to recompile with
the newest gcc (the one used was beta) and include Ross' tcpip network support
(for open-network-stream).

	Dirk
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wissner@perlis.mcs.gvsu.edu (Jim Wissner)
Subject: Re: Linux Logo
Organization: Grand Valley State University, Allendale MI
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:32:49 GMT

In article <Bsy0Hz.GIt@ais.org> lcd@ais.org (Leon Dent) writes:
>I liked the drop-L, though I think it might look better with Linux
>written in cursive letters (with a flowing cursive drop-L).  :-)

Yes, I was thinking the same thing.  

Jim.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu (Jim Winstead Jr.)
Subject: Re: reorganize linux ftp sites ???
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:29:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.193303.29138@nwnexus.WA.COM> vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:
>Might it be time to consider reorganizing the directory structure
>of the Linux ftp sites?  So many people are working on so much
>and being so successful that it's virtually impossible to figure
>out where to get what. Is it reasonable to expect people to read
>an upload announcement of 'freds utilities assortment' and understand
>that it's the exact thing they need ?
>
>I was thinking that maybe there needs to be an organization more
>along product lines so it's obvious where to grab stuff.  The
>current usr.bin doesn't do much for me.  If you don't know where
>it should go, you can't figure out where to grab it.

I agree with most of what you've said, and am working on a similar
project, but there's a couple of problems: time and diskspace.
Organizing such an effort is not exactly easy, and finding someplace
willing to house it almost as difficult - approaching this idea as a
'reorganization' of a current site would run into all sorts of other
problems, since you would almost need to clean house and start from
the ground up to 'do it right', which would temporarily put the site
out of service, effectively.

>	- maybe a whole branch for gnu ?

Just as a little side note, this is a mistake, IMHO.  GNU software
should not be treated as a single collective entity - their scope is
just too wide-ranging.  symlinking all the GNU stuff into one
hierarchy mught not be that bad of an idea, though.
-- 
                                    +      Jim Winstead Jr. (CSci '95)
                                    |      Harvey Mudd College, WIBSTR
                                    |   jwinstea@jarthur.Claremont.EDU
                                    + or jwinstea@fenris.Claremont.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: zhao@unixg.ubc.ca (Jiansheng Zhao)
Subject: X questions: how to run x-program on other machine?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:45:06 GMT

Hi, there,
I have X running, but still have some questions. 
1). I couldn't run any x-program (xrn, etc) on our university's mainframe
unix machine, which has all those wonderful x-program. There supposed to be
a xhost or something, or setenv DISPLAY xxx.xxx.ca:0, which I cann't figure
out. University Computing Centre cann't help much, they were suprised to
know I am running X on a PC under L-I-N-U-X. Is it possible to dial-in and 
run x-program from my linux-X machine?
2). In which subdirectory should I unpack those X-program sources to
compile? 
Thanks.

-- 
Jiansheng Zhao
Dept. Chem. Eng, Univ. of B. C., Canada. V6T 1Z4
zhao@unixg.ubc.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux