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From: suffridge@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick Suffridge)
Subject: Re: Another All-Time team
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 14:12:21 GMT

hatch@gandalf.nosc.mil (Mark D. Hatch) writes:
: In article <1992Nov9.201449.6256@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> wingfiel@lonestar.utsa.edu (Kevin J. Wingfield) writes:
: >In article <Bx94J1.8Mz@news.cso.uiuc.edu> jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
: >>         Kentucky
: >>	G -- Frank Ramsey
: >>	G -- Jack Givens
: >>	F -- Cliff Hagan
: >>	F -- Kenny Walker
: >>	C -- Dan Issel
: 
: >        What about Pat Riley?  I am not sure of the yrs
: >        of the team he was on but I know they went
: >        to the finals and lost the West Texas College
: >        (now The Univ. of Texas - El Paso) the first
: >        all black team to become National Champions.
: >        Also on his team were a few other names that need
: >        to be considered but I can't remember them myself,,,ooops
: 
: Just a slight correction or two.  UTEP's name back in 1966 was Texas Western.
: Also, the team was not all black, though the starting five (and the only two
: reserves used in that game) were.  As someone who has read several articles
: on this game in the past, I too should be able to remember more of the 
: starting five for Kentucky, but Riley's name is the only one that pops into
: my mind right now.  Now if you want to know the names of some of the 
: starting five for the Miner's, that I can help you with.
: 
: 							Mark Hatch
:   

 The other player from the Runts that deserves consideration is former ABA
 great Louie Dampier.  The starters for that team were

 C - Thad Jaracz
 F - Pat Riley
 F - Larry Conley (a good player but lousy broadcaster IMHO)  
 G - Tommy Kron
 G - Louie Dampier
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Notre Dame's chances (Was: USENET Top 25 Poll versus AP)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 16:50:58 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.185614.390@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day) writes:
>In <75114@hydra.gatech.EDU>, jb118@prism.gatech.EDU (Jeffrey N. Burch) posts:
>
>>USENET (Hill) POLL
>>Also receiving votes:  
>>Arizona State 17, Missouri 17, Georgia 16, Notre Dame 13, Oregon State 13, 
>                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^  HUH!?!?!?!
>
>Notre Dame got 13 points?  I would LOVE to hear the reasoning behind
>giving them any points.  
>
>Unless else something happened in the off-season, these are the only
>redeeming features of ND's team this year:
>
>1) John McCloud is no Digger Phelps.
>
>2) Monty Williams is back for his senior year.
>
>3) Billy Taylor showed a lot of promise as a freshman last year.
>
>Other than that, I see it being a long, boring winter in South Bend :(

One redeeming feature is that apparently McCloud recruited well, but one
shouldn't rely on freshmen to turn the team around.  The schedule is 
somewhat easier than last year's, but last year's was such a killer schedule
that "somewhat easier" still translates to "very tough".  There was a revealing
comment in an article I read recently about the upcoming ND basketball
season.  The probable starting lineup for the Irish *combined* for an
average of about 6 points and 4 rebounds a game last year, and that's
assuming no freshmen start.  On most squads, a single player with those stats 
doesn't start.  I agree that any poll points for the Irish at all is 
overrating.  They might not be too bad next year, however.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: kitchel@manta.dpsi.com (Sidney W. Kitchel)
Subject: Re: IU Exhibition
Organization: Data Parallel Systems, Inc
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:21:24 GMT

peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:

>In article <1992Nov17.175454.6800@hubcap.clemson.edu> jwsteph@eng.clemson.edu writes:
>>
>>Can someone post the box score from Indiana's exhibition game on Monday night.

>	I heard that the score was 115-108 over Athletes in Action.  I
>	can just guess what BK will be working on in practice today
>	ahead of Murray State!

	And you'd probably be correct. Bobby didn't seem very pleased
with some of the defensive play. Although he caused some of the
problem by his own decisions. He platooned the team in bunches of 5.
Neither platoon looked like a starting lineup to me. The Bobby
intensity meter indicates that he is taking this season very
seriously.

>	Alan Henderson scored 27 points, Greg Graham 23, and Calbert
>	Cheaney 20...  Someone also tells me that Knight had Todd Leary
>	throw the ball straight to an AIA defender, who layed the ball
>	in to give AIA a one-point lead early in the second half.  Another
>	tidbit for the Legend of BK, or vicious rumor?

	Legend not rumor. Leary was bringing the ball up the court.
Knight called him over to the sideline and spoke to him for a few
seconds. An AIA defender was at the 10-second line ready to take up
guarding Leary. Suddenly, Todd just bounced the ball to the defender
and attempted to prevent a score, which he was not able to do. I think
either Knight was testing Leary or it was a sportsmanlike gift to the
AIA team. Knight had just been upset by a ref's call that went against
IU and Knight had yelled at the refs. for giving IU the benefit of a
lousy foul call.

	The other piece of news from the game is that Todd Lindemann
will be red-shirted. He had elbow surgery last summer to
correct a bad operation he had as a kid. Apparently the earlier
operation prevented full arm movement. Lindemann was not able to
achieve full summer conditioning because of the operation and will sit
out the year.

	Henderson and Cheaney played fairly well. But the guy that
looked in shape for the season was Greg Graham. He is super smooth on
offense and defense. Nover also looked to be playing better than last
year. 
							--Sid
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From: lowood@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Henry Lowood)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UCLA beats Melbourne
Date: 17 Nov 1992 16:19:08 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: lindy.stanford.edu
Keywords: Gaze Zidek O'Bannon

In article <matthew.722038602@base.cs.ucla.edu> matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher) writes:
>
>  Mike Lanier got some time.
That's probably good news for UCLA.  What did he do to get time and when is
he up for parole?

Henry
From: 2ftzlead@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Kansas dominated Marathon Oil
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:12:25 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services


The Kansas Jayhawks defeated Marathon Oil 121-54.  Both Eric Pauley and Richard
Scott got game-high 22 points. Junior transfer Darrin Hancock performed 7
slam dunks and 15 points.  All the stats will be shown after my classes are
over.

Kansas Liu

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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: Loyola Marymount
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 01:55:00 GMT

n8843528@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Chris M. Jacques) writes:


>	I hear LMU has a new coach (Olive) that was an assistant with Rollie
>Massimino at Villanova. Does that mean the Lions are scrapping their frenzy
>run-and-gun offense for a slower Big-East style that plays defense. 

	If this is true, the one guy I feel sorry for is UCLA transfer
	Zan Mason.  From it seemed like, he transferred to Loyola Marymount
	to get more playing time, and in the high-tempo offense, perhaps
	put up the big numbers that players such as Bo Kimble and Hank
	Gathers had put up.  It would have been a great chance for him
	to put up some big stats and perhaps get some national recognition.
	Now, he's stuck at the school, and if they killed the high-tempo
	offense, he's lost out on all counts.

	Jazzy J
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From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: UCLA beats Melbourne
Keywords: Gaze Zidek O'Bannon
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:16:42 GMT

UCLA beat Andrew Gaz and his Melbourne Tiger teammates yesterday 92-80.

High notes for UCLA:
  Shon Tarver had 27 points
  
  Jiri (George) Zidek played 22 minutes and had 14 points (6-7 from the field)
  This is *great* news -- Zidek is looking like he could play some quality time
  at Center (he's 7'2").  He's been to Pete Newell's Big Man camp and has
  everyone abuzz.  Comments from Coach Harrick:
      "He's surprising me."
      "After tonight, I think he's going to do a lot of playing."
  One negative implication of this is that Harrick has no idea how good his
  team is based on practice.  Either that, or he's just giving quotes.

  Ed O'Bannon had a poor first half, but scored a fair number of easy baskets
    in the second half.  He did have a few steals in the second half for easy
    layups as well

  Mike Lanier got some time.

  Kevin Dempsey had a terrible game.
--

Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU
Moo - Moo Moo  		UUCP:	...!{uunet|rutgers|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!matthew
               		This time, *with* the oys
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From: bsricker@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN SCOTT RICKER)
Subject: Pack drops Exhibition
Originator: bsricker@c00752-400wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: bsricker@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN SCOTT RICKER)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:26:57 GMT


N.C. State lost its first game last night, 86 - 82, to USA Vertech (The same
team that beat Ohio St last year).  In addition to losing,  N.C. State saw
its second highest returning scorer, Mark Davis, go down about 5 minutes into 
the game.  Davis was undercut while going a defensive rebound.  As a result, 
one of the opposing players landed on his wrist.  Davis sat the rest of the game
with an ice pack on his arm.  X-rays are expected to be taken this morning.  On
a brighter note, several State players put in a good effort.  Lakista McCuller
finished with 17 pts ( 5 three's ).  In addition, he had a reverse slam in the 
second half. In order not to let the sophmore class have all the glory, freshman
Charles Kornegay also went up for a reverse slam the next time up the court.
Another freshmen, Todd Fuller, also played extremely well.  He scored 14 points,
grabbed several rebounds, and blocked a couple of shots.  Overall, the team played
pretty well, in spite of the fact Kevin Thompson (2nd team All ACC center) was 
also on the bench due to an injury.

Cheers,
B
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Subject: Big 8 reports
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:13:45 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


Sorry folks, I'm behind in just about everything.  I'll
try to get the schedules out soon.  And try to get you preseason
reports, rosters, previews, reviews, etc
for a taste:
Nov 17
	Marathon Oil @ OSU
	Cuban Nats @ NU
Nov 18
	IndSt @ ISU(NIT) 92-77(?)
	FtHood AAU @ KSU  82-67(?)
Nov 19
	Marathon Oil @ KU
	Russian Nat Select Team @ CU
Nov 20
	FloSt vs ISU(NIT)
	Marathon Oil @ MU
Nov 21
	Gold Coast Rollers @ OU
Nov 23
	Marathon Oil @ ISU
	Cuban Nat  @ KSU
Nov 24
	marathon Oil @ CU
	Aust Nat Team @ OSU
Nov 25 
	ISU NIT finals
	Marathon Oil @ OU
Nov 27
	ISU NIT finals
	Aust Gold Coast @ KU
Nov 28
	Belorussia @ MU
	Marathon Oil @ NU
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From: scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn)
Subject: Re: Stanford women start off nice...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:31:48 GMT

  Adam Elman) writes:
>Stanford women 95,  Belgian national team 51.
>OK -- I actually only got to see the first half of this game, since we
>had some other stuff to do, and besides it was 51-19 at the half. :-)

     Oh my God! That's incredible! Stanford outscored the Belgians 76-0 in the 
second half! Unbelievable!
     (Yeah -- I know, I know... :-) )
     BTW, Adam, if you see Tara on campus somewhere, tell her the Buckeyes want
her back. OK, OK, we *need* her back... :-)

                                        Steve
///
-- 
    Steve Casburn (scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
    They gave me differential calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    So they gave me integral calculus, and I said "Hit me again"
    Now I have vector calculus, and...I'm starting to lose consciousness...
From: 185422285@ucis.vill.edu (Alec D. Plotkin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Nova' loses to the French Nat. Team
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:35:00 GMT
Organization: Villanova University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

Sorry I don't know the details.
<==============================================================================>
Disclaimer = I speak for myself and my views are my own. Villanova University
or its computing departments take no responsibility for what I say.
From: jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Iowa State Men's BB Schedule
Date: 21 Nov 92 19:14:08 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA

I've gotten several requests to post the Iowa State Men's BB schedule, so here
it is.

In the NIT tournament, Iowa State was destroyed by Florida State Friday night
109-86(?). ISU came out flat, couldn't get a rebound, and quickly fell behind
by 15-20 pts. The Cyclones were decent in the second half. One of the FSU
guards had a career night with 34pts.  I don't have stats. The winners can
post stats for this one.


1992-93 Iowa State Men's Basketball Schedule 
(dates and times subject to change - not respsosible for errors etc.)

Date    Opponent                                        Time(CST)
-----------------------------------------------------------------  
11/18   Indiana State (NIT)                             7:00pm
11/21   at Florida State                                8:30pm 
11/23   Portugal Basketball Club (exibition)            7:00pm
12/01   SUNY-Buffalo                                    7:00pm
12/03   at Creighton                                    7:00pm
12/06   at Northern Iowa                                6:10pm
12/12   at Iowa                                         2:00pm
12/18   Mercer                                          7:00pm
12/19   Michigan, at the Palace in Auburn Hills         6:30pm
12/22   Texas Southern                                  7:00pm
12/29   Minnesota                                       7:00pm                
12/31   Bethune-Cookman                                 7:00pm
01/05   Marathon Oil (exibition)                        7:00pm
01/09   at Kansas                                       1:00pm
01/14   Oklahoma State                                  8:30pm
01/16   at Missouri                                     7:30pm
01/20   Southern Utah State                             7:00pm
01/23   Oklahoma                                        1:00pm
01/27   Drake                                           7:00pm
01/30   at Oklahoma State                               3:00pm
02/03   Nebraska                                        7:00pm
02/06   Colorado                                        1:00pm
02/10   at Kansas State                                 7:30pm
02/13   at Oklahoma                                     3:00pm
02/17   Missouri                                        7:00pm
02/22   Kansas                                          8:30pm
02/24   Florida-Atlantic                                7:00pm
02/27   at Nebraska                                     3:00pm
03/03   at Colorado                                     8:00pm
03/06   Kansas State                                    3:00pm

Big 8 Tournament March 12-14

-- 
Joe Huber 
(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
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From: jfw1@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (james.f.whitehead)
Subject: Fair Haven Recreational Basketball, SHIRTS vs. SKINS: Game Report
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 00:02:19 GMT

Well, it's that time of year again. Fair Haven, NJ recreational basketball,
30+ division, has started up, and for you die-hards out there I have
details of the 1st SHIRTS vs. SKINS game. No box scores, I'm afraid,
but I'll summarize highlights and the performances of key players.

HIGHLIGHTS:

Once we got the janitor to move the dumpsters off the floor, we were
ready to roll. It only took us 20 minutes for 4 guys to make a foul shot
to make up the teams. The SKINS took off their shirts, blinding several
of the players (take some vacation and go to the beach, guys!). We decided
to play full court, since there was an extra guy to come in if somebody
collapsed with a side stitch.

"Fast" Freddie Gelbaugh started things off with a dazzling no-look pass
off the nose of Greg Miller, who picked up the ball and tossed in a 6-footer
after Steve Newton tripped and fell down to leave Greg open. Greg's never
looked better - the league better watch out for him this year! Could easily
make 2nd-team all league. Unless he blows out his heel blisters again.

Well, thats enough for highlights. On to player summaries. Gelbaugh
and Miller you've already heard about. As for the rest:

Pat Riordan - Still can't jump over a piece of paper. Still a foot shorter
than Bill Laimbeer, so it makes a difference. Still rebounds with his butt.
One of the better power forwards in the league.

Joe Dombrowski - Back after a year off to finish his basement. He's in much
better shape- actually gets back on defense, if the other team doesn't run.

Brian Hope - A new player, and an immediate contributor. Can drive to
his left without losing the ball. Rumor has it he's under 30, though, and
might be ineligible this year.


NOT PLAYING THIS YEAR:

Chris Lazslo - MVP last year, got disgusted and moved on to "a decent game."
Will not be missed.

Well, that wraps it up. Hope to have box scores next week.

Jim Whitehead

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From: kjordan@williams.edu
Subject: New England TV update Duke/Michigan
Reply-To: kimberly.a.jordan@williams.edu
Organization: Williams College Ctr for Computing
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:59:35 GMT

WSBK in Boston will be carrying Michigan at Duke on December 5. 
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From: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu (Jim Jungbauer)
Subject: 92-93 WSU Men's Schedule
Originator: jjungbau@yoda.eecs.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 07:46:33 GMT


1992-93 Washington State Men's Basketball Schedule


Date          Opponent                                   Time (PST)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
11/20/92      Canberra Cannons (Exhibition)              7:30pm
11/30/92      High Five America (Exhibition)             7:30pm

12/2/92       BYU - Hawaii                               7:00pm
12/4/92     @ Alabama                                    5:00pm
12/9/92     @ Idaho                                      7:05pm
12/12/92      Eastern Washington                         7:00pm
12/18/92    @ Texaco Star Classic (San Diego)            7:00/9:00pm
12/19/92      (vs. N. Florida in first round)
              (WSU, N. Florida, Azusa Pacific, SDSU)
12/29/92    @ Michigan State Tournament (East Lansing)   TBA  
12/30/92      (vs. Princeton in first round)
              (WSU, Princeton, New Hampshire, MSU)

1/4/93        Sacramento State                           7:00pm
1/9/93        Washington (Raycom)                        1:00pm
1/14/93     @ Arizona State                              6:00pm
1/16/93     @ Arizona                                    5:07pm
1/21/93       Oregon                                     7:00pm
1/23/93       Oregon State (Prime Network)               8:00pm
1/28/93     @ Stanford                                   7:30pm
1/30/93     @ California (Raycom)                        3:00pm

2/4/93        USC (ESPN)                                 9:00pm
2/6/93        UCLA (Raycom)                              3:00pm
2/11/93       Arizona                                    7:00pm
2/13/93       Arizona State                              7:00pm
2/18/93     @ Oregon State                               7:35pm
2/20/93     @ Oregon (Prime Network)                     7:30pm
2/25/93       California                                 7:00pm
2/27/93       Stanford                                   7:00pm

3/4/93      @ UCLA                                       7:30pm
3/6/93      @ USC                                        1:00pm
3/13/93     @ Washington                                 7:30pm


Television games indicated are live telecasts only.

Jim
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From: djryan@ri.cs.wm.edu (David J. Ryan)
Subject: FSU - Indiana
Organization: College of William & Mary, founded 1693
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:32:32 GMT

What was the score of this NIT game? I thought it was played
yesterday, but the paper here in Williamsburg didn't mention
it. Also, does anyone know if NIT games are counted as regular
games or as exhibitions?

My brain is leaking and I can't scoop it up.
From: dporter@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (D. L. 'Rusty' Porter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: 3 point line...
Date: 17 Nov 92 04:20:16 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

I suppose I should clarify that 3 point message...
that was in the ACC, daring (and stupid) as they
were then.

Doug
Seventeen feet?!? who thought that up?

-- 
Doug Porter                        |   "It had been necessary for him
Virginia Tech                      |    to swallow swords that he might
President, WiffleBall Football     |    have a better throat for
Association of Roswell             |    grapes" -- Stephen Crane
From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Darnell Robinson Commits
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:53:43 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

....to Arkansas, of all places! Guess he didn't want to share time with
Michael Stewart.
	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Don't worry about the missed free throw, Christian.  We all make mistakes."
--Richard Nixon to Christian Laettner, after he missed the front end of a 
one-and-one with one second left, playing Arizona
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