HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION high-speed modem users!
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:27:19 GMT

t_captain@bluemoon.use.com (Tc Wilson) writes:
>mdavis@crash.cts.com (Morgan Davis) writes:
>> This may be because the IIGS firmware uses the CTS transition interrupt
>> rather than polling the CTS signal as do many programs that go right
>> to the metal in dealing with the 8530 directly.

>Yes, but you have to remember that the firmware cannot handle anthing 
>above 19200 (38400 or 57600 for the newer modems), and even then, at 
>19200, the firmware's throughput is very low (more like 11000 baud).

  Gee, aren't _we_ just being snotty?  There are lots and lots of BBS's
in the world that run at 2400bps.  Most of them, in fact.  High speed
modems are still out of most people's leagues, _especially_ since
2400 baud modems can be had for $80 now.  2400 is here to stay (as much as
I want a super fast modem, not everyone is going to need one, nor
will they be able to afford one).

  And to be quite honest, TelCom uses the firmware and achieves 38400
baud easily.  At 57600 you might as well forget doing anything but 
processing serial interrupts.

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From: herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Herbert Fung)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Apple Video Overlay Card... Can I adjust it?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 19:32:25 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Lately the video on my VOC has slided over to the left. What I need to 
know is if I can adjust those little knobs on the card and which one to 
re-center the video. Recently I bought a VCR so I can now watch TV, but 
since the video is off center, so is the picture. I didn't mind that the 
GS video was a little off because there is still a little room left for 
the boarder.

--
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Edmonton Remote Systems         |   Miracles just make hard work!"
Edmonton, Alberta, Canada       |       The Herbster! 1988

Herbert Fung              herbertf@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: GEnie gateway (was Re: Applelink gateway)
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:17:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.uerics.721855054

I think that GEnie's charging money for the Internet mail is insane!  It's
_free_ on America Online.  Some way to compete, GEnie.  Way to go.

A friend of mine had been on GEnie only because he'd expected the Internet
mail to be included in the basic services.  When he heard otherwise, he
cancelled his account and uses AOL instead.

- Eric S.

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AOL:      Sheppy                   | doubt, rewrite from scratch."
From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Help With ShrinkIt GS 1.1
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:13:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: mcl.uerics.721854800

SEA files are type S16.

BTW: You can open an SEA file from within ShrinkIt GS v1.1, so you don't
_have_ to launch them to extract the files.

- Eric S.

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From: ST2975@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: HyperC and opsys16x
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:22:40 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I've put hyperc16.bsq in the incoming subdirectory of the hyperc
anonymous ftp site.  This is a beta version, especially regarding
IIgs users.  This is a HYPERC specific application.  Those without
ftp access can send me a request via email and I'll send you a
copy.  It runs on 65802/816 Apple computers or compatibles.
The hyperc anonymous ftp site is calvin.sfasu.edu.

Previous versions of opsys16 used the 8 bit machine stack in page $1.
This version uses a 16 bit machine stack directly.

Opsys16x and opsys16 contain a true 16 bit cp-interpreter.  Opsys contains
an 8 bit cp-interpreter that emulates a 16 bit machine.  Opsys, opsys16
and opsys16x all run HyperC C programs compiled using the cc script.  This
includes the language tools pp, ppf, hyperc, asm65 asmcp and lnk as well as
the lib and sym utilities.

Caveats:

I suggest that anyone with a hard drive, especially IIgs users, should
use a disk version to test it initially, with the hard drive disconnected.
This version disables interrupts on entry and on the shell 'bye' command
restores the processor status register and any interrupts previously
enabled.  A later version will include 16 bit interrupt support.

ccn compiled programs will put the opsys16x and opsys16 cp-interpreter
in a state it cannot recover from.  *** BEWARE ***.

Send comments, bug reports etc. to me at:

st2975@siucvmb.siu.edu

Andy W.
From: Pauley@vnet.ibm.com (Paul Benson)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 09:26:10 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Source for playing sounds
Organization: IBM Personal Computer Co. - PS/1 Development
Disclaimer: This posting represents my views, not necessarily IBM's.
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <1992Nov22.081747.17112@cs.uow.edu.au> Shane Kelvin Richards writes:
>   I am looking for source which loads a sound into the doc ram, and/or
>plays a sound.
>Does anyone have such
>source they are willing to share with me?

A long time ago I posted some CDAs to c.b.a2.  One allowed the user to
create a custom sound for the system beep.  It's nice because it also works
in P8.  Anyway, I also included the full source, so look in the dusty section
of wuarchive and see if it is still there.

Pauley
GEnie: P.Benson1
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	id <kh22572@pro-scat.cts.com>; Tue, 17 Nov 92 06: 16 EST
From: bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Subject: Re: Hard Drives for Apple IIGS
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 05:52:30 EST


I dunno.... I have 252 megs... and need more..... loads of sound & graphics
stuff.... and not enuff space...
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Are flopticals compatible with those mini cd's?
Date: 22 Nov 92 10:49:03 PST
Organization: BBS

Todd,

From your recent post it seems to say the Insite flopticals tracks optically
for precision, but still writes data magnetically, eh?

So that means strong magnetic field will affect data integrity of floptical
disk?

frank m. lin
fmlin@terapin.com
From: foegelle@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Foegelle)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Fast modems and the SSC
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:21:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Nov16.074456.13677@actrix.gen.nz> David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>Regarding the Super Serial Card, which uses a 6551:
>
>The 6551 has two very nasty features with its flow control inputs.  If
>the CTS input goes inactive, the transmit data signal is IMMEDIATELY
>cut off.
>
    >Stuff about DCD and DSR deleted<
>
>The CMOS 6551 (65C51) is somewhat better: CTS cuts off the transmitter
>after the current byte has been completely transmitted.  It has the
>same behaviour for DCD.
>Its other advantage is that disabling receive interrupts also disables
>the DCD and DSR change of state interrupt.  This cannot be disabled on
>the original 6551, which is why a IIe will usually hang if you unplug
>the modem from the SSC while you aren't in a comms program.
>
Be careful with your descriptions.  The 65C51A works as you describe, but the
65C51 works identically to the 6551 in terms of CTS.  At least that's the way
the GE/Harris/RCA version works.  I believe there's also a 6551A available 
which may solve the problem as well.

>BUT, I don't think you can simply replace a 6551 with a 65C51.  We
>tried this in one of the products my company produces, and it didn't
>work reliably, because the two chips expect different types of crystals.
>-- 
I'm using a 65C51A in my SSC with my 14.4Kbaud Supra with no problems.  It 
also solved the problem that the 6551 had with RTS low forcing CTS low 
internally (a problem mentioned several months back).

For about six bucks from a mail order electronics house, it's a pretty easy
fix.

>David Empson
>
>Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
>Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand


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From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: Re: SyQuest and HFS FST
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 16 Nov 92 18:35:17 GMT

>From: Bob Hayosh <hayosh@engin.umich.edu>
>Subject: SyQuest and HFS FST

>Has any one used a SyQuest with both a Mac and a IIGS?

Bob,
  I've mentioned this a few times already. Try making a copy of Advanced Disk Utilities, renaming it GenericMacSCSI, and copying it to your System:Drivers folder. Then try formatting the cart for HFS. I got a Syquest cart working on a IIGS and a Mac with a slightly more convoluted procedure, but this should work. Please let me know if it does. Also, you _should_ be able to format the cart on a Mac, but the Mac formatter I tried didn't work.
  I think Apple II hard drive vendors should supply GenericMacSCSI drivers with their drives. The file is documented in the Advanced Disk Util ERS. I wonder if TMS, Quality, etc. even know about it.

  -Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu

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From: cs422oliv@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (WOODFILL)
Subject: Wanted : Platinum Apple 5.25 drive
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:35:00 GMT

Hi all.

I am looking for a platinum 5.25 Apple drive.  The Unidisk beige and Disk
II drives are not acceptable.  If anyone is willing to part with theirs,
please drop me a line at aulbo@acvax.inre.asu.edu.

Thanks in advance,
Brad Oliver
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	id <kf41505@pro-harold.cts.com>; Sun, 15 Nov 92 11: 31 PST
	id <kf42340@pro-scat.cts.com>; Sun, 15 Nov 92 11: 45 EST
From: jackm@pro-scat.cts.com (Jack Maher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Imladris
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:38:50 GMT
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.


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From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: Future of the II line (???)
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:23:49 GMT

: > and isn't subject to 2000 clones messing up protocal, I highly doubt that
: > Apple would give up the II line.
: 
:   Too late.. they already did. Blame it on that Pepsi dude..
: 
: 
Not, The Apple II is still produced and is selling millions..

: >> If Apple does kill the II line, how will the licensing of software go?
: >> will Apple be selling the II line to an outside company? a Spinoff? How
: >> does this go? If Apple will be giving the II the ax, what can we do?
: 
:   They did.. about 2-3 years ago. 
: 
: 

--
Nope, the II is still alive at Apple, but barely..

=====================================
dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu #1@#31
=====================================

Roy Barrett... Yep, that's my name...

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: Matt Ackeret <unknown@apple.com>
Subject: Re: Lots of questions
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:22:30 GMT
X-Xxdate: Wed, 18 Nov 92 10:24:04 GMT
Organization: Apple

In article <01GRA166FL4W8Y7VE2@ALBION.BITNET> , AKARPENKO@ALBION.BITNET
writes:
>Question #2:
>I am planning to buy a hard drive in about a month and am looking for a
few
>suggestions.  I have a Woz ROM 01 GS and am thinking about getting a
100+MB
>hard drive with a RAMfast card.  I was looking through the recent
MacWorld
>and found a Quantum 110MB ELS for about $340 and a Maxtor 120MB for $400
both
>external anyone have any experience using these drives and what
conversion
>is necessary to convert these drives from Mac to IIGS?

No conversion at all.  Those are SCSI drives, and you won't have to do
any such 'conversion'.
Just get them external with a case and power supply (yes I know you
stated those were
external, I'm just being thorough), and you can hook 'em up to a SCSI
card and awaaaay
you go.

You might want to look into "compact" cases. A lot of the different mail
order companies
in Mac magazines sell them, and at least for some of them, there's no
extra charge. You
can get the drive in an external case that's smaller than a disk ][
drive, not much
bigger (width and height) than an Apple 3.5" drive, only a little longer.

Last year, the best combination I could find of size of hard drive and
price and smallness
of case was from APS. Maybe there are better deals this year...
Apparently there are, since I paid $450 for a 105meg drive.

>Question #4:
>When I am done modifying my IIGS I plan to have a Prometheus Promodem
2400a

Look around at v.32 (9600) and v.32bis (14400) modems. They're getting
cheaper all the 
time. Unless you're dead set on getting an internal modem, 9600 and
faster modems 
are so inexpensive nowadays it's hard to justify getting a slower one.

I speak for myself, not Apple.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: damin@ackerman.cba.csuohio.edu (Greg Boehnlein)
Subject: GSH question / bug?
Organization: Cleveland State University, Cleveland, Ohio
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:09:05 GMT

Hi...I'll make this short and sweet...

Under the 1.0 realease of GNO, my GSH interprets...

$MAIL  and $MAILPATH as one and the same..

Does GSH only only scan the first 4 bytes of the variable or what?

Using this...

set mail='31/usr/spool/mail/damin'
set mailpath='31/usr/spool/mail'

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Switch-It! & MultiLaunch (Re: Multiple Applications on IIGS)
Keywords: IIGS multifinder
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:33:42 GMT

uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes:

>Remember the rumors that WestCode was working on a "MultiFinder" for the
>IIGS?  Then remember hearing that it was cancelled?  Well, Alan Bird
>posted the prototype version on AOL recently and _it works!_

  There are many people who couldn't get it to work at all, including
myself.  I finally removed all DA's and Inits and it then at least didn't
hang on launching programs.  Its implementation as a CDEV makes it
difficult to use programs that it is not compatible with (do you shift
boot to keep the CDEV from loading?  You lose all your DAs and inits
and other CDEVS! Go through and turn them all off with Get Info?
Back to square one).
  I ran through some of the Switch-It! bug reports under MultiLaunch,
and sure enough, most of them were in ML.  Conflicts in font manager
usage between word processor apps, illegal methods of tool patching,
and all manner of evils are present in MultiLaunch.

>I've already tried it, and had the Finder, Teach, and AppleWorks GS all
>going at once (NOT multitasking, but instantly switchable).  It puts a
>menu in the upper-right corner of the menu bar, which allows you to look
>at memory stats for each application, launch applications, and add
>applications to the menu for future use.

  So does Switch-It!; so what's the difference? Switch-It! is a tested,
completed, commercial product.

  The GEnie sysops refused to post MultiLaunch after their dissection of
it; this staff includes Matt Deatherage and Jim Murphy, two highly 
respected individuals in the realm of IIgs debugging and evils-testing.

  Of course, Switch-It! isn't free; MultiLaunch is. But will you 
trust your data to a program that may/may not crash at any particular time?
There's a point where MultiLaunch stops being 'neat' and wants to be
useful, but it's got too many problems.

  I respect Alan Bird (he's beaten us to a number of projects :-), 
but ML is nothing to rave about.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: platkus@roby.ecn.purdue.edu (Shawn W Platkus)
Subject: Re: Wanted: good word processor for ][e
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:38:42 GMT

mdc@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Mark D. Crimmins) writes:

>Hi all,

>Trying to get another few months of use out of my trusty Apple (//c,
>actually, with 1meg of memory a la Applied Engineering Z-ram),
>I'm wondering if there is software available that I don't know about.
>In particular, I need a word processor that does footnotes, and
>basically is flexible enough to prepare manuscripts for journal
>articles that involve no fancy stuff like equations or diagrams.  The
>printer will be either a Deskjet or Bubblejet.  I have an old version
>of Appleworks, and to my recollection it does not do footnotes.

>Any advice would be very much appreciated.

>Thanks,
>Mark Crimmins
>mdc@crux1.cit.cornell.edu



Sounds like you need WordPerfect.  There is a ][e/c version.  I don't know
where you could get it at, but I'm sure its available somewhere.  Anyone know?

-Shawn

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From: jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: Re: Out of This World - Out of My Mind
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 19 Nov 92 22:36:16 GMT



>From: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
>Subject: Re: Out of This World - Out of My Mind

>>Joe Kohn writes:
>>
>>When I first started playing, Burger Bill told me to keep rememberiong that
>>it's a port from a Nintendo game. Keep that in mind. It means, there's not
>>really any randomness to it.

>Not to pick nits, but it was originally a computer game.  It was
>released for the Amiga and PC before any game systems (actually, it
>still hasn't been released for any game systems yet).  There's
>definitely that Nintendo "one way to win" influence, though.

(picking nits further) It depends how you define port. The game might have
been written for some other computer originally, but the IIGS version
is a nearly direct port from the Nintendo code, which
Bill wrote.

Adding my 2 cents: It is a great game. I got a bad disk so haven't
seen the IIGS version yet, but the IBM VGA version is nice, if
a bit lacking in sound. The IBM version has a very annoying
codewheel protection (must look stuff up twice) and the IIGS
has none. :)

 -Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: larry@lablues.UUCP (Lawrance A. Schneider)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: About my survey
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:36:08 EST
Organization: L/A Blues BBS - Auburn ME (207) 777-3465 & 7782

When I posted my survey about Apple and its computers, a number of
people (MANY) asked that I give them the results.  DONE SO HERE BY!


Should Apple Computer Inc. have done to the Apple II what Apple
Computer Inc. did to the Apple II?

Great title?  What does it mean?  In the 9 Mar 92 issue of InfoWorld,
on page 127, Chris Espinosa of Apple Computer Inc. was quoted as
follows: "We're not going to do to the Macintosh what we did to the
Apple II..."  The Article in which the quote occurred was titled
"Apple says to industry: 'The Mac is not dead.'"  In the same issue
were other stories of dealers and customers complaining of poor
support for the Mac from Apple Computer Inc..

What is meant by Mr. Espinosa's statement?  As an Apple II user, I
know exactly what is meant.  Apple Computer Inc. has a history of
abandoning their computer systems and thus, the users having bought
those systems.  This is documented in many books and experiences of
Apple Computer Inc. equipment users.  I'll go through a very short
history of exactly what I mean; there is no need to go through all of
the products of Apple Computer Inc. from the Apple I to the latest and
greatest Mac or whatever.



A short history about the II, III and Lisa goes in here.  I talk about
abandoning the III and Lisa.  I also talk about how R&D went into the
III, Lisa and the Mac and the II being left to fend on its own.  I
talk about how the old IIe ROMs make the old II & II+ software
unusable.  All of you know the story; if you want to refresh your
memory, read the history by Steve Weyhrich or any of Lancaster's frequent
tirades.  I also point out that to use the latest OS, the stock GS is
unsuffecient and contrast this with the treatment of Mac owners.  I
also quote many stories in the computer press about Mac owners and
dealers feeling that Apple does not support the Mac.




The above is what is meant by "doing to the Apple II."  I personally
do not like Apple Computer Inc. because of what they have done to the
Apple II.  I've heard many others including Apple Computer Inc.
employees voice their dislike of what Apple Computer Inc. has done to
the Apple II.  Please do not misunderstand: I have great respect for
the Apple II and the dedicated employees who worked on (and those few
who continue to work on) the Apple II.  I just dislike Apple Computer
Inc.!  I dislike Apple Computer Inc. so strongly, that I will never
buy another new piece of equipment made by Apple Computer Inc.!  When
asked, I can easily become lost in a tirade about same.

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