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From: rnarayan@uncc.edu (Ramanathan Narayanan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: looking for penpals from nea zealand
Date: 21 Nov 92 23:24:18 GMT
Reply-To: rnarayan@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

Hi anybody out there

who would like to get in touch
and become penpals

ram
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp (Doug Rinckes)
Subject: Push bikers / pedestrians / guns
Reply-To: drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp
Organization: Telecommunications Systems Support Centre, New Zealand
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:00:01 GMT

>mrichardson@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes: 
> kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I) writes:
> > Hands up if anyone here actually has a clue what a semi-automatic rifle is.
> 
> Ooh! Miss! Miss!  I know! I know!  And I don't think any reason in 
> support of them (e.g. more effective bunny killing) even comes close 
> to the myriad of reasons against them (e.g. more effective people 
> killing by the anti-social, easy conversion, in some cases, to fully 
> automatic and thus even easier people killing and so on.)

How about this for a reason:

rcpolloc@athena.mit.edu (Robert C Pollock) writes:

> Everybody around Boston says Boston drivers are bad... but coming from
> NZ I think they're downright courteous.  At least to pedestrians.  I
> still have to get used to cars actually stopping to let you cross the
> road.  When I went to Otago Uni, cars would ACCELERATE.


Semi-automatic?  Hell, only a full auto gives you the stopping power
necessary under these situations.

Doug Rinckes  drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp | My companys opinions are like
TSSC New Zealand    DoD#: 741            | my companys cars - they don't
1976 BMW R100S + 41mm Dell'Ortos         | like me using either of them.
Excuse my riding while I reload.....
From: ahogg@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: C-14 scholarship
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:28:59 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

 			THE UNIVERSITY OF WAIKATO
                           HAMILTON NEW ZEALAND

                  RADIOCARBON DATING RESEARCH SCHOLARSHIP

The University seeks applications for a Scholarship of $NZ6,000 (non-
taxable) tenable in the Radiocarbon Dating Laboratory of the Geochronology
Research Unit.  The appointee shall work towards a D.Phil degree on any
topic which makes significant use of carbon dating techniques.  Subject to
satisfactory progress, the Scholarship will be available for up to three
years.

The applicants should be eligible for a D.Phil degree, by holding a good
Honours or Masters degree. No specific experience of carbon dating is required,
as full training will be given.  The candidate's background should be in
science or archaeology, and experience in practical science would be advantage.

In addition to the Scholarship, the applicant will work as a technical
assistant for 10 hours a week in the Laboratory.  This position is
available for 3 years subject to progress.  The part-time technicians
position will carry a minimum salary of $NZ6,193.00 per annum, based on
Grade 1, step 5 of the Technicians' scale.

Enquiries of an academic nature may be made to Dr Alan G Hogg, Radiocarbon
Dating Laboratory, Geochronology Research Unit, telephone (064) 7 8384278.
Information on the method of application can be obtained from Academic
Staffing, Personnel, University of Waikato, Private Bag 3105, Hamilton, New
Zealand, telephone (064) 7 8562889, Fax (064) 7 8560135.  Applications
quoting reference number A92/77 should reach Academic Staffing, Personnel
by 18 December 1992.

Places for appointees' children may be available in the creche run by the
Campus Creche Society (Inc).  Equal Opportunity is University policy.
From: rikard@dc.luth.se (Rikard Stenberg)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Sportfishing videos from New Zealand wanted
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:51:04 GMT
Organization: University of Lulea, Sweden


Hi!

I wonder if  anyone can  help me. On  my last  visit to  New Zealand I
bought a  video called  "Jig Mania".  I liked  that one  very much and
would like to buy some more fishing videos from New Zealand.

Can somebody  please help  me to  find  a company  that could  sell NZ
fishing videos.  I would  also appreciate  suggestions on  titles with
*lot's* of action! :-)

Fax number would be just *perfect*!


I have tried to contact the firm called "Reel Action Video Production,
PO. Box 38-401 Howick, Auckland" without success....

Well well, many thanks in advance!

/Rikard
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Rikard Stenberg
Macintosh expert, consultancy and training
University of Lulee
Sweden
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From: hamish@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Car rental in NZ
Date: 17 Nov 92 14:29:35 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <RCBC.92Nov16163945@seth.cs.cornell.edu>, rcbc@seth.cs.cornell.edu (Robert Cooper) writes:
> I'm travelling around NZ this Christmas and rental cars seem kind of
> expensive. I've been quoted $US230/week and 16c/km from Budget and
> $US278/week with unlimited mileage from Thrifty. This is a one-way rental
> from Palmerston North to Auckland Airport. I also need a car for 2 days in
> Auckland when I arrive. 
> 
> From my experience last time it was even more expensive to rent a car once
> in NZ. Is this still true, or am I better off renting something when I get
> there. Are there some local companies that are cheaper?
>

Try getting hold of a crowd called rent-a-dent. They hire out older cars,
rather than something thats brand new and in mint condition (NOt to say theirs
aren't any good, they just aren't factory new like Avis Hertz Budget cars tend
to be, and so the prices are of course lower.

Sorry I don't have a fax or phone for them Perhaps somebody in Auk could be
kind enough to look in the phone book.
 
> Thanks -- Robert Cooper rcbc@cs.cornell.edu
> --
> -- 
-- 
Hamish Marson, SCMS, University of Waikato             |
hamish@waikato.ac.nz.  Fax +64 7 8384066               | Computers are only 
Disclaimer: Remember. You heard it here first!         |   Human.....
		  
Good intentions always randomize behavior.
                                        -- Marion J. Levy, Jr.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Mistakes in scnz faq (unofficial)
From: rabbi@kiwi.gen.nz (Rabbi Bajzheet)
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:04:20 GMT
Organization: Household UNIX, Auckland, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

wakelins@fri.cri.nz writes:
: 
: There are two mistakes in the faq.
: 
: The first has been pointed out by several readers - namely, the fact that
: Buzzy Bees are still being made (albeit in a factory outside Shanghai).
: 
: The second mistake is reprinted below:
: 
:   > '...and don't go to Dannevirke, you'll hate it'.
: 
: This should be capitalised.  
: 
: Steve W. (...L&t bli dra &t skagen Dannevirke, du jag skall inte tycka dem).

Thanks, Steve (and everyone else who followed up/replied). You can expect an
update in about, ooh, maybe six months.

Rabbi

(Funny, thing, I've had absolutely no flames at all. Perhaps my disclaimers
worked *too* well. I'll leave them out next time.)

Some people are born useless, some aspire to uselessness and some have
uselessness thrust upon them. 

.s
aaaaargh

Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: bill@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Beware the push bikers
Date: 20 Nov 92 09:43:15 +1300
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1efb0vINNmob@cs.ubc.ca>, ajackson@cs.ubc.ca (Ann Jackson) writes:
> In article <1992Nov19.143643.12320@waikato.ac.nz>, bill@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> |> In article <1eekpiINNmv3@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, bennett_w@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (William Francis Bennett) writes:
> |> > In article <1992Nov19.115737.12309@waikato.ac.nz>, bill@waikato.ac.nz writes:
> 
> |> > I conjecture that it takes almost as long when driving in a new
> |> >>country or city to get used to the road patterns. And it'll take
> |> >>quite a bit longer before you feel comfortable with it. 
> |> > 
> |> > Fair comment - but I've been here nearly six years.
> |> 
> |> I would have said it would take 20 years at least.
> |> 
> |> Bill Teahan
> |> - Who's travelled 115,000 km's on back-country New Zealand roads in the
> |>   last four years, and the car looks it.
> 
> Oh c'mon Bill, does it take 20 years to get comfortable driving in the first
> place? I've only been a licensed driver for about 16 years myself but I felt
> pretty comfortable after about a month driving around the South Island a couple
> of years ago. By your criterion I shouldn't even be comfortable driving in
> Vancouver, where I have resided almost continuously since getting a license.
> 
> Ann Jackson
> Another Kiwi in Canada


No. I meant that it takes 20 years to get used to driving in New Zealand.
We are all a bunch of mad, crazy drivers, myself included. I never said that
we weren't. Just took exception to people trying to compare our driving
habits with those overseas on the basis of subjective opinion or a few
road statistics taken in isolation.

Bill Teahan
"I have never been lost but I will admit to being confused for several weeks."
-- Daniel Boone
From: bestor@cs.wisc.edu (Gareth S. Bestor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: US Gun Lobbyist Visits
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:49:39 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin Madison - Computer Sciences

In article <1992Nov20.093304.12336@waikato.ac.nz> maj@waikato.ac.nz  
writes:
> Has anyone any reactions to the US gun lobby's efforts to 
> link up with their local counterparts to turn Australia and 
> New Zealand into places where handguns and semi-automatic
> weapons may be freely obtained?

Yeah. They ought to be lined up and shot!

(for the humour impaired :^)
------------------------------------------------------------
                      Gareth S. Bestor
Computer Sciences Dept.        Inst. for Research on Poverty
U. of Wisconsin-Madison        U. of Wisconsin-Madison
1210 West Dayton Street        1180 Observatory Drive
Madison, WI 53706              Madison, WI 53706
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:32:47 -0500 
From: Michael Witbrock <mjw+@cs.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: NZ news to 14 Nov


This is great. does it mean I have to stop hating the national party and
everything it stands for, whatever that is?



Excerpts from netnews.soc.culture.new-zealand: 16-Nov-92 NZ news to 14
Nov Alan C. Operations@csc.c (8779)

> Bid to outlaw sexual barrier
> A move to ban discrimination on grounds of sexual orientation 
> will be sponsored by an Associate Minister of Health, Mrs 
> O'Regan, and include a no-escape clause for the police. The 
> move confirms speculation that the Government caucus was not 
> prepared to include these grounds in its pending human rights 
> legislation. Instead, it has sectioned off the controversial 
> issues into a private member's initiative. Mrs O'Regan's move, 
> which will succeed, fail, or be amended on a conscience vote in 
> Parliament, has the support of the Minister of Health, Mr 
> Upton, the Associate Minister of Health, Mr Williamson and the 
> Minister of Women's Affairs, Mrs Shipley. Mrs O'Regan will be 
> basing her argument on health grounds.
> "The fear of discrimination in employment and housing has 
> stopped some homosexual and bisexual men from seeking medical 
> advice and tests that can determine their health status," she 
> said. "In doing so they put themselves and others at risk."
> Her proposal, which will not exempt the police or armed 
> forces, which have both opposed allowing homosexuals in their 
> ranks, is likely to be among the most sharply contested in 
> Parliament. The Minister of Police, Mr Banks, has been a 
> vociferous critic of change.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
From: balistik@big-brother.nevada.edu (Shawn Hicks)
Subject: Re: Car rental in NZ
Organization: Not yet, but we're working on it...
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:27:32 GMT

Instead of renting a car at $49US a day, it might be cheaper
to *buy* an old car.  (I'll be there for three weeks...)


Shawn
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Beware the push bikers
From: kilroy@acme.gen.nz (earthbound misfit, I)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 12:32:38 GMT
 <1992Nov21.183630.20051@athena.mit.edu> <1992Nov22.193014.45450@datamark.co.nz> <1eq2dqINNcde@golem.wcc.govt.nz>
Organization: ACME BBS - Public Access Usenet, Palmerston North, New Zealand

bennett_w@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:

> Last weekend I nearly got creamed twice while driving through green traffic
> lights. It seems that many drivers now deem stopping at Red to be purely
> optional. 
> 
> The second time I was almost hit the jerk (who had gone through a red light)
> had the nerve to scream at me! 

You need to do what I do: drive a large, decaying, rust-infested '74
Valiant. I'm not one of the "big cars will survive any accident" crowd, but
if I get hit by another car in city driving (a) the other car's going to
come off much worse (unless it's another Valiant) and (b) another dent? So
what?

> BTW: how do I post my text file of accident stats here? Any ideas?

What was your address again? BENNET_W@kosmos.... well, you could always pay
some non-zero amount of money for your usenet access instead of sponging
off the city council.

						- k
-- 
Craig Harding            kilroy@acme.gen.nz             ACME BBS +64 6 3551342
"Jub'er lbh pnyyvat n obmb?"
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand,alt.alien.visitors
From: david@datamark.co.nz (David Rowland)
Subject: Re: NZ UFO reports in mainstream press, 1989?
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:02:24 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <1992Nov16.022727.11619@nwnexus.WA.COM> markmc@halcyon.com (Mark McWiggins) writes:
>An acquaintance mentioned something about a bizarre series of UFO
>reports coming out of New Zealand in 1989, allegedly including guys
>wearing "USAF" jumpsuits getting out of a crash-landed craft.
>
>Does this ring a bell for anyone? If so, could you post a summary and/or
>pointers to the relevant press accounts?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>-- 
>Mark McWiggins        Hermes & Associates		+1 206 632 1905 (voice)
>markmc@halcyon.com    Box 31356, Seattle WA 98103-1356  +1 206 632 1738 (fax)


If this is what I think it is, there was some pictures filmed from an
aircraft of undefined lights supposedly travelling huge distances at
enormous speeds.  This was latter discovered to be Venus.  

-- 
| David Rowland       | The British are using New Zealanders.  They must |
| Datamark Intl Ltd   | really mean business !                           |
| Wellington          |      -  General Rommel During Northern African   |
| NEW ZEALAND         |         Campaign WWII.                           |
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Beware the push bikers
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:53:32 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <1ed003INNgj8@golem.wcc.govt.nz> bennett_w@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>All this talk of cycle helmets reminds me of a pet groan: the general level of
>driving skills in New Zealand. Frankly, Kiwi drivers are worse than Italians or
>even the French.
>
>Now before I'm flamed to medium rare let's qualify my statement.
>
>About six months after arriving in New Zealand, I got into a heated debate on
>this subject with a bunch of journalists one night after work in the pub. They
>had a number of excuses to hand (a bit too quickly to hand too if you ask me).

After 6 months driving in South Africa I vowed never to complain about 
Kiwi driving again.  Two weeks after getting back I started complaining 
about Kiwi drivers.  It's the unpredictability that gets me.  

In South Africa they dirve really badly but completely consistently.  You
know exactly what they are about to do (wrong).  

In london there is a kind of coutreous aggression.  If you don't push your
nose into the flow no one will let you in,  assert yourself a tiny bit and 
they will politely give way.  Dent someone and they will swap pleasantaries
as well as addresses.

In Spain driving is a kind of manic ballet,  similar in France.

In New Zealand it is almost impossible to predict what someone is going to 
do next.  Coupled with the fact that some of the people will be driving at
below the speed limit dawdling and assuming they don't need to indicate 'coz
they are going so slowly and safely,  the other half of the population are 
going far to fast and assume they don't need to indicate because you won't 
have time to react anyway.

Have an accident and they will swap punches as well as details.
Do something someone doesn't like and they are likely to follow you home 
and beat you up with baseball bat.

Yep just love those Kiwi drivers.

>Now, after five years in New Zealand I know the reasons. Put an average Kiwi
>behind the wheel of the car and something like the special effects scene in Dr
>Jekyll and Mr Hyde takes place. Mild mannered people become demons. Kiwi
>drivers aren't just rude, they are positively suicidal. Even close friends have
>scared me to death giving me a lift across town.

Have you noticed though that you yourself are becoming a little demonic behind
the wheel, overtaking on the inside without a thought and swearing a little 
more.  It's called acclimatisation.  It works for me.

>**** HOLD THE FRONT PAGE **** EX-PAT POM JOURNO IN KIWI LOVE NEST SAGA **** 

Pictures at 11.

GIF! GIF! GIF! GIF!


-- 
Derek Tearne.   --   derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz   --    Fujitsu New Zealand   -- 
Some of the more aware dinosaurs were worried about the environmental
consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.  
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.
From: zhoub@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Information needed
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:48:16 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

 I plan on travaling at Auckland and Williton with my family during Christms.
  
 If short  term accomodation is available (about 2 weeks)?  If so, what does 
it cost?(two bedroom or one bedroom), how I can find such accomodation? If it
is advetised on newspaper(every day? which newspaper?), 
or I have to rent from agencies?
 
what does it cost to rent a car for two or one week. If it is possible use
Queensland driving license in NZ or I have to apply international driving
license?

 Any help information would be graetly appreciate.

Bingyang

e-mail: zhoub@qut.edu.au  OR  bingyang@fitmail.qut.edu.au
From: bennett_w@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (William Francis Bennett)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: Re: Beware the push bikers
Date: 21 Nov 1992 08:14:59 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: bennett_w@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz


In article <1992Nov19.143643.12320@waikato.ac.nz>, bill@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>In article <1eekpiINNmv3@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, bennett_w@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (William Francis Bennett) writes:
>> In article <1992Nov19.115737.12309@waikato.ac.nz>, bill@waikato.ac.nz writes:
>> 
>
>Show me them. Ones that compare _all_ factors and not just a few.
>Published in a scientific journal. A dissertation. Whatever.
>Then I'll believe it. You can argue about my "standard excuses"
>but I can argue just the same about your "statistics".
>

As it happens someone emailed me with some statisitics that back up my initial
statements rather nicely. Right now I haven't figured how to post something
with I got as email. Give me a day and I'll post 'em. I was slightly wrong on
the numbers, but my point IS validated by the facts.
>
>15 minutes is amazingly short. Did you have problems when crossing a road
>as a pedestrian looking the right way? Were you comfortable turning at
>an intersection? 

No problem. Unlike most NZ drivers I indulge in the quaint practice of looking
first before turning. :-)
**** HOLD THE FRONT PAGE **** EX-PAT POM JOURNO IN KIWI LOVE NEST SAGA **** 
                                                                              
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BENNETT_W@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz             | Thank God!, The British Journalist
PO Box 2613, Wellington, New Zealand     | But seeing what that man will do
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Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.new-zealand
Subject: NZ
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 11:07:31 EST
From: John Mount <John_Mount@TINMAN.OZ.CS.CMU.EDU>



Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 11:03:03 +1300
From: Alex Heatley <Alex.Heatley@vuw.ac.nz>
Subject: Risks of DYI Home movies 

	Recently in Auckland, Aotearoa (New Zealand) the police were involved
in an unusual case.  It seems that several people burgled a house and among the
items taken was a set of videotapes. The tapes contained home-made pornographic
movies involving the inhabitants of the burgled house.  The burglars then
attempted to use their possession of the tapes to blackmail the "actors" into
paying for the return of the tapes.  Unfortunately when the burglars arrived at
the payment drop off point they were met by the NZ Police, who seized them and
the tapes.
	Any sighs of relief that the "actors" might have had were short-lived.
The burglars counter-charged that the tapes contained scenes of child
pornography and bestiality which made them indecent under NZ Law.  The result
was that several police "had" to view 40 hours of video recordings to verify
whether these claims were or were not correct (it turned out that the
recordings did not contain any child pornography or bestiality).
	The tapes were returned to the, by now, extremely embarrassed "actors".
With the increase in home computers capable of using frame grabbing software to
create digitised pictures and the almost insatiable desire of the networks to
spread any and all such pictures, the "actors" involved in this case were very
lucky that their images didn't end up adding to the network traffic statistics
for alt.sex.pictures.erotic.
	Of course, if the original tapes had been encrypted, this embarrassment
would never have occurred... or would it?

Alex Heatley Computing Services Centre, Victoria University of Wellington, P.O
Box 600, New Zealand.  Alex.Heatley@vuw.ac.nz
                                              [The proof is done.  KiWiD.  PGN]

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