From: decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Barry Goldwater
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:37:28 GMT
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Organization: AT&T

I see Suzanne still has that porphyria problem.

In article <1992Aug13.204241.20106@noao.edu> forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
> From article <1992Aug13.122456.5050@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>, by decay@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (dean.kaflowitz):
> > With such insightful analysis as this, I can see why Suzanne
> > has been hired by a political think-tank.  I just hope the
> > think-tank has a shallow end.
> > 
> > In article <1992Aug13.000256.27262@noao.edu> forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach) writes:
> >> From article by keegan@pan.crd.ge.com (James G Keegan Jr):
> >> > smgarvin@nyx.cs.du.edu (susan garvin) writes:
> >> > -> Goldwater's been pro-choice for a long time.  I'm glad that
> >> > -> he's speaking up about it, but I agree with Jim - it's too
> >> > -> late.
> >> > i'm glad that it is (too late). i think the choice issue is the
> >> > sigle-most important factor which will swing the election to the
> >> > democrats.
> >> BLAH HA HA HA HA!   You wish!   The ABORTION issue is the single-most
> >> important factor which will swing the election to the pro-lifers!
> > 
> > Unemployment running close to 8%, high numbers of business
> > closings, a huge federal deficit, home sales still dragging
> > like crazy.  These are what will throw the election to the
> > pro-choicers if anything does.  While the Democratic
> > and Replublican candidates have opposing views on the issue
> > of abortion, it is not the issue of abortion that will
> > decide this election.  Your bizarre notion that this election
> > will be about the abortion issue, implied in your statement
> > above, is myopic.  There are bigger issues for most Americans.
> Hey, I was simply addressing Jim Keegan's myopic statement that the
> entire election would swing on the "choice" issue.  First off, "choice"
> is not the issue.  "Killing Unborn Babies" is the issue.   Second off,
> there is NO BIGGER issue than this one for ALL future generations of
> Americans.    Since whether they live or die hinges on it.

You were agreeing with Keegan's myopic statement that the issue
of abortion would swing the election one way or another, which
is far from correct.  In the second place, your noise about
what is th eissue is just more emotional rhetoric without much
substance and not worth discussing any further than to point out
that the "It's a baby, it's a baby!" ranters do absolutely nothing
to promote their cause except to make themselves look like
stressed out lunatics.  And in the third place, I have to laugh
at utter morons like yourself when they make statements that whether
all future generations of Americans live or die hinges on the
abortion issue.  The position of pro-choice advocates is that
women should be allowed to decide for themselves whether or not
to terminate a pregnancy.  It is not that all women should have
abortions.  The vast majority of women opt to continue their
pregnancies to term.  Some percentage of women (roughly one
quarter at last count) opt to terminate their pregnancies.
I tried to read what you said more generously, but it still
comes out that you think if we allow abortion to remain, as it has
for the past twenty years, a legal option, all future generations
of Americans will be aborted.

> Dummy.

House.  Glass.  Stone.

Dean Kaflowitz
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