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From: pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic)
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
Subject: Re: What?  No McReceipt?
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:05:47 GMT
Reply-To: pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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>In article <1g8qqoINNs26@west.West.Sun.COM>, gene.saunders@West.Sun.COM (Gene Saunders [SW Area SE]) writes:
>> 
>> Has anyone ever noticed that all fast food places except McDonald's give receipts?  Why doesn't Our Favorite do likewise?
>> 
>> Can you ask for, and be granted, a receipt?  (I never asked ....)
>> 
 
Sure, they'll give you one if you ask. They usually have a printer under the
counter someplace that will print a receipt.

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Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: McPizza is one year old.
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:04:14 GMT

And it tastes like its one year old too....

The Ottawa Citizen ran an article today, ostensibly commemorating the
one year anniversary of McPizza's introduction in the Ottawa area.

They said wonderful things about what it's done to McD's image. They
said wonderful things about what it's done to McD's sales. They said
wonderful things about virtually everything about McPizza.

Except that it tastes like cardboard.

Other than that, I really like McD's. I wish we'd get double QPs
here....

Michael
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: eah@xenitec.on.ca (Ed Hew)
Subject: Re: Greatest
Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:57:52 GMT

In article <1gm1enINN762@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> dma3@po.CWRU.Edu (Dianne M. Angeloff) writes:
>BTW Ian, an alien from Toronto living in my city says that KFC is far
>better in Canada.  I ate some there and couldn't see any difference?

Since there's no kfc newsgroup....
KFC must be somewhat different in Cleveland; don't know.  The ones
in Dallas, various spots in California, Maryland, Atlanta ..., they
all serve the same as in Canada.

It's tasty, but you have to plan some downtime to allow the msg,
or whatever it is that puts me to sleep, to work it's way through.
--
  Ed. A. Hew,    <edhew@xenitec.on.ca>    ....!uunet.ca!xenitec!eah
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Advertising
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 01:11:24 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team

<TAM131@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

> Burger King does not focus ads to kids ...

Maybe not in your market, but they certainly do in mine.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: ltriplett@loyola.edu (Larry Triplett)
Subject: Receipts
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Dr. Who ...
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:39:00 GMT

We have to give out receipts for every order through the drive thru.
Althoug we refund food without them, it helps because of
This McGaurantee thing 



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Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: harrisot@cps.msu.edu (Timothy R Harrison)
Subject: Re: Greatest
Originator: harrisot@pacific.cps.msu.edu
Reply-To: harrisot@cps.msu.edu (Timothy R Harrison)
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, Michigan State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 23:37:16 GMT

In article <2587@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> kwp@ukc.ac.uk (K.W.Pang) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.093625.11664@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster) writes:
>>>> Fillet-o-fish (is it called that in the US too?!) is a load of cr*p, though.
>>>> 
>>>
>>>It sure is.  It too is not one of my favorites.
>>>
>>     I agree.
>
>
>
>I was wondering which of the menu items is the most healthiest.
>
>I always though it was the Fillet-O-Fish.
>
>
>Kam.
>
I hate to ask, but this is McDonalds food we're talking about,
right?

Tim
Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: eah@xenitec.on.ca (Ed Hew)
Subject: Re: McD's new all-vegetable burger
Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:08:08 GMT

In article <1g5d8gINNo7j@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> pab@po.CWRU.Edu (Pete Babic) writes:
>An article in the Cleveland paper said McD's will test a new all vegetable
>sandwich in the Netherlands.

I only caught the tail end of the news report on the car radio the
other night, [sitting at the Burger King drive thru :-) ].  They
did mention another European country for testing, perhaps Belgium?

They stated that the veggie burger (presumably they mean the
patty) is composed of some sort of potatoes, carrots, and peas
concotion.  They did sound serious; I didn't hear any laughter.

>Don't know if it will come to other parts of the world.

Only if it sells well in the test countries.
It certainly wouldn't be very high on my list of things
to order at the drive-thru.

		--ed
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Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: eah@xenitec.on.ca (Ed Hew)
Subject: Re: Double QP
Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
Distribution: alt
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:11:03 GMT

In article <ByzwGJ.2Lz@csugrad.cs.vt.edu> kkennedy@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Kevin F. Kennedy) writes:
>> My nearest McDonalds is the only one in Sweden that sells Double QP burgers.
>> Is this burger on the regular meny anywhere?
>
>We had the Double QP burgers a couple of months ago as a promotion.  It is
>not part of our regular menu,

I've never seen it on a regular menu.

>but I imagine that we would make one if one
>was requested.

Remember to allow them an extra 1/2 hour to figure out the math.
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Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: ltriplett@loyola.edu (Larry Triplett)
Subject: Price of QP
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Dr. Who ...
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:45:00 GMT

	Price of QP is 1.95 dollars plus tax
	Price of double QP is 2.99 plus tax.
	(Surely this is the better deal!!)




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Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: jusu@krk.fi (Juha Vehvil{inen)
Subject: How much do you pay for your QP?
Organization: Radio Club of Kauniainen (OH2NRG)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 17:56:42 GMT

        Just as the subject line says, here is a question for YOU (!)
        to answer:

        How much do you pay for your QP?

        Nevermind where you live, I want to know! Email to jusu@krk.fi
        or whereever.
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Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: eah@xenitec.on.ca (Ed Hew)
Subject: Re: Advertising
Organization: XeniTec Consulting, Kitchener, Ontario, CANADA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:36:10 GMT

In article <h4+r4hp@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
><U30633@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>
>>>> Burger King does not focus ads to kids ...
>>>
>>>Maybe not in your market, but they certainly do in mine.
>>
>>What McMarket are you in?
>
>Albuquerque, New Mexico.  And I seriously doubt that the Burger King Kids
>Club, which buys national advertising time during children's programming,
>is local to here.  It got quite a bit of media attention a couple of years
>back, because one of the animated "kid" mascots is in a wheelchair.

I always thought that those miniature indoor/outdoor McPlaygrounds
were a bit small for adults!  :-)

The kids seem to fit just fine though.
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Newsgroups: alt.mcdonalds
From: mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson)
Subject: Re: What? No McReceipt?
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:01:56 GMT

In <1992Dec11.115414.2991@bvc.edu> niceswangern@bvc.edu writes:


>	I can't see why you would need a receipt.  I doubt anyone will have 
>to return their food.  And even if you did, they'd probably replace it 
>without a receipt (unlike most department stores!) :)

The only reason I could see to need a receipt would be expense
accounts, where you need receipts in order to be reimbursed.

I like receipts since I got an accounting program and I write down
everthing I buy. Whenever I go to McD's, I always have to remember how
much it was so I can enter it under Expenses, Dining Out.
Xref: sparky alt.consciousness:790 talk.origins:15812 talk.religion.misc:24307
From: aquilanm@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Mark T Aquilano )
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness,talk.origins,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Next?
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:10:57 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

``

If you can imagine machines that will be able to match the cognitive capacity
of humans, which seems very possible in the not-too-distant future, do you
wonder if there is anything that can separate people from mechanical 
intelligence?  Or are WE only very sophisticated thinking machines?

Mark Aquilano
aquilanm@gas.uug.arizona.edu
From: bennett@deepthought.unm.edu (Paul Bennett)
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
Subject: Re: entropy
Keywords: entropy
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:10:46 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Math & Stat, University of New Mexico, Albuquerque


     There is a very good point here about entropy: Is it against our
focus and our discipline?

     There may not be an easy answer. I am presently reading (sort-of) a
text about the structure of the I-Ching. One of the ideas is that there
is constant change, but in a predictable way. Focus? Chaos? Discipline?
Entropy? I think these things balance. 

     (For the physicists: The above use of the word entropy is not a strict
use of the thermodynamic definition of entropy. Recently a reply to a post
of mine asked whether the definition of open and closed concided in
the thermodynamic sense. I think not, as I had not supposed that there was
a difference. Apparently there is. Could we have an elucidation of this
please?)

* Paul Bennett                   Is there always a greater truth?
* bennett@gauss.unm.edu          What is death anyway?
* Standard disclaimers here. These opinions are certainly mine and not dept's.
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
From: trp@gtech.com (Tom R. Peterson (consultant))
Subject: Re: entropy
Keywords: entropy
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:28:51 GMT

Could we say entropy is necessary for the development of our
conciousness just as gravity is for physical health?  

I have gotten the impression that alot of ashrams produce malifluent 
wimps, while sharecroppers and factory workers develop states 
of mind that have wonderfull tone and depth.  If true learning is 
an experience not unlike rape, and the human tendency is to create 
the softest possible life, could we say that without entropy we are lost?

Newsgroups: alt.consciousness,talk.origins,talk.religion.misc
From: m23364@mwunix (James Meritt)
Subject: Re: Next?
Followup-To: alt.flame
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean VA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:18:58 GMT

In article <BzGwEL.4Av@cs.uiuc.edu> mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
}In article <1992Dec18.133633.18565@linus.mitre.org>, m23364@mwunix (James Meritt) writes in part:
}|> I said nothing about the rest of the net, let alone giving homo sap's relative
}|> position.  You are objecting to assumptions that you, not I, made.
}No, I was commenting on your precise statement.    Please explain what 
}you were really saying if I got it wrong.
o
In your reply, you said:
>Humans are exactly as old as every other
>part of the planet.  Grasses, ants, and bacteria are just as well adapted
>and successful as humans (possibly more so).

I did not mention any organism branch except homo.  Your inclusion was
irrelevant, and the inclusion covered the question.

}|> }Thus, I see no progression.
}|> 
}|> I was giving sample points for what I was talking about, since the "definition"
}|> is so unsatisfactory as to what "consciousness" is.  Hence, if you are
}|> referring to something other than that which I spoke, you are objecting
}|> to an assumption that you, not I, made.
}No, I was referring precisely to what you said.  Perhaps you should
}explain what you meant if I misunderstood.

False. I gave a specific series of "less thans" which, by example, GIVE a progression.
I was not asking for, nor did I desire, any of your off-the-wall irrelevancies.
 
}|> Which was why I asked for talk.religion.misc.  Those who express the ideas
}|> do not concur that they have no objective reality.  Hence, let THEM answer.
}|> You are objecting to an assumption of reality that you, not I, made.
}...which I thought was what you asked.  Or are "THEY" the only one's
}qualified to have an opinion.

since you made an absolute statement ("Most of these concepts have no existance")
which you don't (by your admission) know, I would say that, within that context,
yes they are.  Or at the very least you are not.
 
}|> For fun, why not answer what was asked in the scenario asked instead of making
}|> your own (wrong) assumptions, then objecting to yourself?
}
}KMA, son.  For fun why don't you explain yourself clearly.  If my
}comments are based on a misunderstanding of what you intended then
}explain what you meant better.  Jsut because you can't express your
}ideas clearly is no excuse for insulting me.

Pearls before the swine.  I gave specific examples and you ran off into
a dark room with them and then complained about the dark.  Pointing out that
you are talking about 
1: Other than what the example specified
2: Don't know what you are talking about anyway (or at least that is your claim on
the religious topic)

is not an insult.  Well, maybe it is.  When I check the dictionary definition
of "insult" I get "to treat with insolence or contempt", and I do see you as worth
of contempt.


In any event, you have demonstrated that you have nothing along the lines of the
given question that you know, so ta-ta.


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From: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu (Robert McGrath)
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness,talk.origins,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Next?
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:07:30 GMT
Reply-To: mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept of Computer Science

In article <1992Dec17.133858.6071@linus.mitre.org>, m23364@mwunix (James Meritt) writes:
|> 
|> I have basically the same question, but it can be expressed three different ways slanted
|> to each of the newsgroups this is cross-posted to:
|> 
|> What is next?
|> 
|> talk.origins:  On the evolutionary side, homo sapiens is seen as merely the most recent
|> step in a series of rungs in a ladder.  What do you see as the "next rung"? 
I have big problems with this.  Humans are exactly as old as every other
part of the planet.  Grasses, ants, and bacteria are just as well adapted
and successful as humans (possibly more so).  I see no ladder.

|> alt.consciousness:  A corpse is less conscious than a sleeping person is less conscious
|> than an infant is less conscious than an adult.  Whatever "conscious" is, this seems
|> to be a reasonable comparison.  What do you see as the step after "adult" along the
|> same progression?
Hmm.  I never thought that the difference between sleeping and awake was
a matter of "amount of consciousness", as the sleeping individual
may be very active mentally and experience "a different consciousness".
Similarly, the conscious experience of a baby is probably incomparable
to an adult.

Thus, I see no progression.

|> talk.religion.misc: many religions appear to aspire towards some form of "elevation
|> to godhood", "enlightenment", "dietification",...  What are the characteristics
|> of these advanced (by whatever means) entities?

This question answers itself.  Various religions define such concepts,
consult the appropriate source for the alleged characteristics of such
alleged advanced alleged entities.  Most of these concepts have no
existance outside the religion in which they are defined.

-- 
  Robert E. McGrath
  Urbana Illinois
  mcgrath@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
From: micah@stein.u.washington.edu (Micah Anderson)
Subject: Re: Buddha-Mind-machine-India
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:32:57 GMT

Hi, could I get some info on the book, if it is still available
etc...

Micah

Newsgroups: alt.consciousness,talk.origins,talk.religion.misc
From: alpinist@eskimo.com (David Butler)
Subject: Re: Next?
Organization: =>ESKIMO NORTH (206) 367-3837 SEATTLE, WA.<=
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:34:54 GMT

In article <lj1i99INNflp@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh) writes:
>In article <1992Dec17.133858.6071@linus.mitre.org> m23364@mwunix (James Meritt) writes:
>>talk.origins:  On the evolutionary side, homo sapiens is seen as merely the most recent
>>step in a series of rungs in a ladder.  What do you see as the "next rung"? 

>Machine intelligence would be one possibility. 

>A form of intelligence that spans more than one physical brain. Possibly 
>machine moderated group intelligence. Another possibility is that 
>homo sapient (or another species) will evolve an ability to directly
>interact with the environment on a purely mental level; should this
>be a possibility then it indicates that "mind" is not simply a phenomen
>of the workings of the brain, which would in turn open the possibility
>of consciousness that is not rooted in physical existance.

Here you are making the assumption that because human beings appear to be
the most intelligent of species that greater intelligence is being selected
for.  But the problem with that assumption is that as a species we are not
breeding for greater intelligence.  The top ten percentile in intelligence
breed quite a bit less than the average population.  As a whole we are breeding
for average intelligence and are weeding out the highest intellects from the
population.
 
Because of the destruction of the environment and greater proliferation of
pollutants it seems likely that we will see an increase in obsessive
compulsive behavior types.  People who was their hands a lot, are very nit
picky about getting any dirt on them, who carefully wash and prepare the food
they eat - will have an evolutionary advantage.

Your speculation on machine intelligence is interesting though.  If parallel
processing takes off then machines may actually be able to develop thinking
abilities beyond that of human capacity.  It blew me away to read an Omni
article a few months back on a guy who got a group of people together, they
sat down and designed a parallel computer and with a new technology not even
developed their resulting product is now competing head to head with the most
powerful Crays.  And they are just using regular speed processors.  The
potentials of parallel processing are incredible.  Computers have just jumped
from the insect stage straight to the mammal stage.



-- 
Dave                                              alpinist@eskimo.com
When the gods wish to punish us they answer our prayers - Oscar Wilde
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From: emarsh@hernes-sun.Eng.Sun.COM (Eric Marsh)
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness,talk.origins,talk.religion.misc
Subject: Re: Next?
Date: 17 Dec 1992 18:38:33 GMT
Organization: Sun
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In article <1992Dec17.133858.6071@linus.mitre.org> m23364@mwunix (James Meritt) writes:

>I have basically the same question, but it can be expressed three different ways slanted
>to each of the newsgroups this is cross-posted to:

>What is next?

>talk.origins:  On the evolutionary side, homo sapiens is seen as merely the most recent
>step in a series of rungs in a ladder.  What do you see as the "next rung"? 

Machine intelligence would be one possibility. 

A form of intelligence that spans more than one physical brain. Possibly 
machine moderated group intelligence. Another possibility is that 
homo sapient (or another species) will evolve an ability to directly
interact with the environment on a purely mental level; should this
be a possibility then it indicates that "mind" is not simply a phenomen
of the workings of the brain, which would in turn open the possibility
of consciousness that is not rooted in physical existance.

>alt.consciousness:  A corpse is less conscious than a sleeping person is less conscious
>than an infant is less conscious than an adult.  Whatever "conscious" is, this seems
>to be a reasonable comparison.  What do you see as the step after "adult" along the
>same progression?

A form of consciousness that is greater than the consciousness of an
individual. Group consciousness as I described above is one possability.
As I mentioned above, there are two possible means of accomplishing this:
a physical interface to some sort of a computational machine, or some
sort of an innate connection with the basic fabric of the universe(s)
itself.

>talk.religion.misc: many religions appear to aspire towards some form of "elevation
>to godhood", "enlightenment", "dietification",...  What are the characteristics
>of these advanced (by whatever means) entities?

A greater connectiveness between themselves and the universe, similar
to that which I described in the previous sections. Of course the term
godhood has many meanings; in many ways, for example, with the added
capabilitys a modern person gains from technology that person could
be considered god like to a primitive.

>James W. Meritt:  m23364@mwunix.mitre.org - or - jmeritt@mitre.org

Interesting subject.

Eric
From: D_NIBBY@UNHH.UNH.EDU (Dana   Nibby)
Newsgroups: alt.consciousness
Subject: Buddha-Mind-machine-India
Date: 17 Dec 1992 15:38:48 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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I'm selling them for $10 postpaid in the U.S. only. To reserve
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I'll send you a table of contents and ordering info.

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