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From: oertelh@cs.tu-berlin.de (Helmut Oertel)
Subject: Re: how to do:x is element of ... in WordfW.?
Organization: Techn. University of Berlin, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:39:20 GMT


: ->: In article <16B508DE7.WKWINKEL@ibm.rz.uni-passau.de>, WKWINKEL@ibm.rz.uni-passau.de writes:
: ->: ->Dear Netters,
: ->: ->does anybody know how to get a sign like
: ->: ->x is an element of the group of real numbers
: ->: ->  (please excuse my weak mathematical english)
: ->: ->where the "group" of real numbers would be an R with a double
: ->: ->stroke on the left hand side, something looking like IR.
: ->: ->The equation editor offers the "element" sign, even the vertically
: ->: ->mirrored E (there is an x ...) and the A turned upside down (for all x..)
: ->: ->but no characaters for the different group of numbers. There is a seperate
: ->: ->vertical stroke available in the eq.editor, but this wouldn't work with
: ->: ->complex numbers (C).
: ->: ->Any help is wellcome
: ->: ->Olaf Winkelhake
: ->: ->University of Passau, Germany
: ->: ->Dept. of Economics

!!! Did you really get it  ?!?!

: 	Before passing a comment I suggest you try it out first. If you
: 	are a fan of using alt+number then try alt+0194 and make sure
: 	you choose the 'Symbol' font to get a 'Re' symbol. Next time

The character at position 194 in the symbol font is not the symbol
generally used for the set of real numbers, but an oldgerman (altdeutsch)
R used for a system of sets in the field of stochastic (sigma algebras) -
at least a fellow student told me they somtimes use it for this purpose.
The R most often used for the set of real numbers has a vertical line at its
left side, just as Olaf Winkelhake described it above (if you don't believe
me just open any mathematical textbook, they either use a bold R or the one
described above).
So again, what we are looking for is a font that includes such an R, a
corresponding C, N, Z and Q (guess you know what they stand for) as well as 
some other mathematical symbols not included in the symbol font file.

: 	try first before making a comment (I can't stop my friend from
: 	laughing). Rgards,

Think! before making a comment. You better read more carefully what people 
are trying to express [description of the R] (greetings to your friend).

: 	-Anis.

**
Helmut Oertel
Technical University of Berlin, Germany
oertelh@cs.tu-berlin.de
From: scmmlo@thor.cf.ac.uk (M L Otway 92)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: WFW Print odd and even pages separately?
Keywords: WinWord Odd Even Printing
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:42:13 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway


I found that the best way to print odd and even pages (i.e., double
sided) on an Deskjet 500 in W4W is to use a macro along these lines:

for i = start to end step 2
  print page i
DialogBox "Put paper back in..."
for i = start + 1 to end step 2
  print page i

Obviously, this requires putting the paper back into the paper tray
in reverse order, and some may think of this as slightly crude, but
it works for me. And it crashes a lot less often than my previous
solution, the duplex macro in the sharware package "Windows Office
Power Pack".
Please note (for the more pedantic among you) that the above code is
*not* WordBasic, but is merely pseudocode (I am a student, and we 
have a tendancy to use pseudocode....!).

What I'd like to know is why there isn't an option in the Print
dialog box of WFW (especially v2.0) with a check button for odd/
even pages. It's about the only feature which those nice chaps at
MS really should have foreseen a demand for.

MLO

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: peter@cad.ee.ntu.edu.tw (Peter R. Tattam)
Subject: Why Equation Editor in WFW 2.0 can't work
Organization: EE, NTU
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:36:27 GMT

Hello.
    My Equation Editor in WFW2.0 can't work correctly. Some symbo like sigma 
can't appear. And there is a message box saying that MT Extra font not 
installed correctly. But I reinstalled several times. It still can't work.
Please Give me a hint. THANKS !!!!

Chu W.H
EE, National Taiwan University, Taiwan
email address: r81132@cs.ee.ntu.edu.tw
From: mic@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Clarke)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:18:18 GMT
Subject: Re: Norton Anti-Virus for Windows Update Files ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Ft. Collins, CO
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps

Which versions of the NAV virus definitions are you running?
Symantec/Norton keeps the most current definition files available on
their forum on CompuServe.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: W4W
From: jonathon.twigg@oosight.status.gen.nz (Jonathon Twigg) 
Date: 11 Jan 93 08:38:00 GMT
Reply-To: jonathon.twigg@oosight.status.gen.nz (Jonathon Twigg) 
Distribution: world
Organization: OUT OF SIGHT BBS, Auckland, New Zealand, 64-9-298-3805

 I have nothing to do with this company appart that I use this program and 
like it.

Enveloper is part of the Word for Windows. Office POWER Pack. - WOPR - the 
world's 
largest WinWord add-on. WOPR consists of the following files:

TBEDIT.EXE - Toolbar Editor. Now WinWord has the best icons in the 
business ... in color ... 
and you can draw your own!

ENVR.DOC - Enveloper. The fanciest, easiest envelopes ever! Logos, bar 
codes, custom 
envelope sizes, notes, multiple addresses, all fonts. Works on any 
printer.

2X4.DOC - Two-by-Four. Print duplex (front and back), squished 
side-by-side, squished 
duplex for four pages on each sheet of paper. Print booklets, even or odd 
pages only, forward, 
backward, multi-section documents, macro listings, and much more.

FILENEW.DOC - FileNew. Manage your documents; don't let them manage you!  
Keep track 
of templates, using full descriptions. Stick documents in the right 
directory, first time, every time.

WOPRLIB.DOC - WOPR Library. The largest collection of Word for Windows 
macro 
subroutines anywhere. Dozens of routines to make it easier to build your 
own, custom macros - 
and a nice cookie jar, chock full of ideas, if you're just starting at 
writing your own macros.

CHARVIEW.DOC, the Character Viewer, tells you what codes lie behind 
your inscrutable characters. 

CLOSEALL.DOC, to Close All Files with one click. 

FILEDEL.DOC, 
the most reliable File Delete. 

FILELIST.DOC, which Lists Files in a snap. 

INSERTIT.DOC Inserts "Page X of Y", file names, much more. 

SUPERSUB.DOC puts Super and Subscripts at 
your fingertips. 

CLOCK.DOC, our classic WOPRClock - the most-often-used WinWord macro 
anywhere - takes a lickin' and keeps on tickin'. 

COUNT.DOC Counts Words and Characters. 

COMPOSE.DOC, Character Compose, uses simple two-letter abbreviations to 
create 
characters like . . . . . . . - and many more. 

WOPR is $49.95 plus $4.50 shipping and handling, $9.50 outside North 
America. Site licenses 
(more than ten users) are available at considerable savings.
You can register right now by calling 800-OK-WINWORD (800-659-4696), or 
314-965-5630. We 
take Mastercard or Visa, and try hard to ship within 24 hours. To register 
by mail, send a check 
(in U.S. dollars, please) to:
Pinecliffe International
Advanced Support Group
11900 Grant Place
Des Peres, Missouri USA 63131

Have a look at your local board it should it two files calles WOPRA and 
WOPRB.

  







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From: wkk@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (wesley.k.kaplow)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: DDE and PowerPoint
Keywords: DDE PowerPoint ACCESS
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:07:22 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

We were intending to use ACCESS and DDE to be able to get information
about PowerPoint 3.0 presentations into database tables.  However,
Microsoft has told us that PP 3.0 does not support DDE and that they
have no plans to incorporate DDE in the next few releases.  They did
however state that there is some DDE facilities in PP to support OLE
but that they this was for internal use only.  

Is there any way, other than lots of mouse clicking, to automate at least
the recovery of slide titles, outlines, and slide contents so that the
information can be incorporated into ACCESS or some other database.  I know
that NDW 2.0 will launch and print a PP file if it is dragged over the 
desktop printer icon.  Does this use DDE, or just command line arguments?

It seems strange that the newest release of PP does not support DDE,
a major element if you need to put together a system that is any more
sophisticated that the program's standard interface.  What about the
multi-media angle? Shouldn't every non-trivial program at least support
DDE to control menu operation?

Thanks for any information or hints,

Sincerely,

Wesley Kaplow
Bill Hery
AT&T Bell Laboratories
Whippany, NJ 07981


kaplow@att.com
hery@att.com
From: kaseko@atlas.its.uci.edu (Mohamed Kaseko)
Subject: HELP: MAC diskettes on the PC !
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Reply-To: kaseko@atlas.its.uci.edu (Mohamed Kaseko)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:26:45 GMT

I am looking for a good PC-based sotware that can enable me
to read MAC formated diskettes on my PC. I would like to be 
able to switch word and excel files between my PC at home 
and the MAC in the office.

Thanks

kaseko
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: rmair@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Mair)
Subject: Another question on postscipt viewers
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 14:46:54 GMT

I have a two-pronged question to ask here.

I am considering buying a graphics package, something along the lines
of Corel Draw/Harvard Graphics for general graphics presentations
with my work (drawings of equipment, expt set-up, etc) I want it
to run under windows, primarlily to allow compatability with WFW
and Excel, printing under the one driver, pasting to Word.
Are these packages the best options for such purpose?

The second part is:  I use a package on an SGI which generates
postscript (or HPGL) output files. The package itself makes annotation
of the files very difficult. Besides, as a PS file, one is reduced
to cutting/pasting/photocopying to incorporate the diagram anywhere
else.
Now, in an ideal world, I would like to be able to use the
package chosen above, to read in the postscript or HPGL diagram,
display it as a diagram on my PC, allow me to modify the diagram
further (ie add annotations, second axes, etc), save the new file
in windows (.BMP?) format, paste it to WordFW, print it out under
my windows driver on my non-postcript laser printer (Canon LBP-4).

No doubt I am asking too much here?? :-)
Are there any packages that will allow such an operation?
Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Ross

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From: booloo@framsparc.ocf.llnl.gov (Mark Boolootian)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.msdos.apps,comp.os.msdos.misc
Subject: Word/Word for Windows/WordPerfect:  Which is best?
Date: 5 Jan 93 22:33:06 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory

I'm about to buy a word processor for my new 486 system but don't have a
heck of a lot to go on.  We've had a Mac running Word for years and my
inclination is to go with MS Word (how similar is the user interface to
that of the Mac version?).  I've seen Word for Windows advertised but know
nothing about how it differs from Word.  What benefits do you derive from the
Windows version?  And how does Word compare with WordPerfect?  Is it possible
to import/export files between Word and WordPerfect (I think Word 5.0 on the
Mac could at least read WordPerfect files).

Any information is greatly appreciated.  Price isn't an issue.  Email is
preferred.

Advance thanks and best regards,
mb
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Disclaimer:  booloo speaks for booloo and no other.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.os.ms-windows.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.misc,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools,comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.win32
From: soubyran@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Soubyran Richard)
Subject: MS-Windows and Ms-Pascal...
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 04:08:04 GMT

Hello Windowers!

I am about to port many different applications writen in Pascal to
the Windows environment. Those programs work perfectly on a
VAX/VMS (VAX Pascal), on an IBM VM/CMS (Pascal/VS), on a Macintosh
(MPW Pascal), on a CYBER (don't remember the compiler) and finally
on a variety (sp?) of UN*X boxes.

On all the environment described earlier (except for the Mac), the
user is dealing with a dumb interface (line by line). I am
interested in porting the programs to the PC environment. Since the
code doesn't call any special functions, it very portable (except
for the Mac GUI, but the calculations part isn't touched).

At first, I will write a dumb interface. But after, I would like to
use the Windows GUI. Here are my questions.

Can MS-Pascal call Windows libraries?
Can MS-Pascal call other kind of windows (ie "a la" Turbo Pascal)?

In the case that you would be interested in knowing what those
programs are, is called "The R Package" developped at the
University of Montreal. It's a collection of programs doing
statistical computations (that's VERY roughly what it does!).

I thank you very much in advance.

Richard Soubyran
soubyran@alize.ere.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: kpwong@cs.cuhk.hk (WONG Kit-pui (609-7987))
Subject: Re: WinQvtNet  documentation
Organization: Engineering Faculty, The Chinese University of Hong Kong
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:34:49 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.210027.29372@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, sion@apache.ctr.columbia.edu (Boudi Sahyoun) writes:
> 
> Is there any place where I can get the documentation on how to setup
> qnet285? The product comes with basically no info on how to set it up.
> Does it work with 3Com TCP? 
> When I try to run it, it says something like: unable to initialize network
> 

I have got a copy from a BBS in Hong Kong, version is not in
mind now (ver 2.xx), but I can't make it work since
the documentation along with the package seems to be
insufficient. For example, I can't get the "Interrupt 
Vector" (Range 60-7F ????) of my EtherNet card.
Does any one know to make QvtNet work properly and the 
configuration file (xxx.rc) to be set up ?

I also want to know any other similar public domain 
software (TCP/IP terminal simulation) available.  

Pls give any advice to my internet address directly.

Thanks in advance !!!

Kit-pui Wong,  kpwong@se.cuhk.hk

D
configuration XXX.RC)

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: fjd@eskimo.com (Frederick Dickey)
Subject: Re: Windows-Based UNIX Email Reader
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 00:14:13 GMT

twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:

>We have several PCs running PC-NFS 4.0a to connect to our
>Unix box.  Unix Sendmail is reliable, but have a difficult
>to use interface (esp. for those who have no exposure to
>Unix at all).  We have also installed cc:Mail with a SMTP
>gateway, but it's been just too unreliable.  

>Can anyone recommend a Windows-based package that can get 
>the mail from the /usr/mail/spool file on Unix and allow 

There is a shareware program called the "Cinetic Mail Manager" that
is windows based. I have tried it out as an off-line mail reader, but
is is supposed to be able to get mail from a spool file. The interface
is quite easy to use with two exceptions:

o It will take a sysadmin to set it up so that a user can use it

o It requires that the user supply his/her own pager. It uses the 
Windows notepad as the default pager.

I have seen it on various archives.

Fred
From: akm@atlantix.cs.uoregon.edu (Anant Kartik Mithal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Word 4 Windows 2.0: how about UPC codes? & Envelopes and DJ500
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:47:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1993Jan6.064703.2749
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

In article <1993Jan6.021231.15169@mapsut.einstein.com> shmuel@mapsut.einstein.com writes:
>Is there any way of printing UPC codes from word for windows 2?
>I wish to print the postal zip codes on my mailing labels using the
>US post offices encoding.

I believe that the WOPR set of macros will do what you want. I say
believe because I know that they will do this for envelopes, but I'm
not so sure about mailing labels. They come with a UPC TrueType font.

On a related question, Does anyone have a definitive answer for
printing envelopes from anything in windows (e.g. the envelope icon in
WinWord, or various stand alone programs that print envelopes, or,
from what I've read, word perfect for windows)? 

I am beginning to believe that the problem lies in the new Deskjet
550c compatrible drivers. 

I seem to recall that about 6 months ago, when I used to use the ver
2.11 drivers for the 500C, I didn't have a problem. Subsequently, I
trashed my hard disk, and had to reinstall everything, and because I
was lazy, didn't install the intellifont driver for the deskjet, but
used the plain vanilla driver that comes with windows 3.1. I believe
that at that point also, I didn't have a problem with envelopes.

Now, I am using the 3.xx intellifont driver, which has support for the
DJ550c, and does greyscale and whatnot, but it has a miseralbe time
printing envelopes. I'm also having trouble printing Quicken Cheques.

Any suggestions?

Anyone from HP listening?? (Bob Taylor???)

cheers,

kartik
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Network Manager, Ph.D. Student			(503)346-3989
Comp. Science, U of Oregon, Eugene, OR 97403  	(503)346-5373 (fax)
From: sberger@sedona.intel.com (Scott Berger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Latest version of QVTnet?  Where or who?
Date: 11 Jan 1993 20:25:33 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp., Chandler AZ.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: alfalfa.intel.com
Originator: sberger@sedona


In article <1993Jan11.021508.15924@datamark.co.nz>, thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle) writes:
> In article <1993Jan10.145819.1@bb1t.monsanto.com> jbfraz@bb1t.monsanto.com writes:
> >You can register for WinQVT/NET Ver. 3.0 at:
> It should also be noted that in my experience they have been fairly
> lackadaisical when it comes to responding within a reasonable time.
> It's a damn fine package, but they possibly need to work on becoming a
> bit more professional.

	I'll second that one. Last year we tried to get terms for
licensing twenty copies, but they never responded to snailmail,
and their compuserve email box is always full. Their loss, we went
with someone else.
 
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From: jpd@discovery.cl.msu.edu (Joe P. DeCello)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: x-window emulators
Date: 6 Jan 93 23:25:19 GMT
Reply-To: jpd@discovery.cl.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: discovery.cl.msu.edu

We are using MicroX from Startnet.  Our setup allows us to run a CAD/CAM package from
a SS2, displaying it on a 386 or 486 running PC-NFS4.0a using Suns Openwindows3.0 XDM and olwm.

You could easily use X11R4 or X11R5 with twm, instead of Suns XDM and olwm.  I tried this.
You can use TCP/IP or SLIP, instead of PC-NFS.  I haven't tried this.

Our version runs in DOS, but they also have a Windows version.  I will be demoing this version in 3 weeks.

I personally found MicroX to be better (faster and more rubust) then PC-Xview.  This was when I
demoed them side-by-side 6 months ago.

StarNet Communications
Ph:  408-739-0881
Fax 408-739-0936
E-mail:  micro-x@starnet.com
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DISCLAIMER:  This is my personal opinion and your mileage may vary.
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Michigan State University                      ph:  (517) 353-3027 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: kng@pt.com (Ken Gravenstede)
Subject: Re: MS Word upgrade / bugs
Organization: Performance Technologies, Incorporated
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:42:15 GMT

Another bug that exists in V2.0 is in the install script.  Since it installs
MS Draw, etc. in the /WINDOWS directory it can blow up during the install
if there is not enough room on the drive where /WINDOWS is.  So if you
install /WINWORD on drive D: with plenty of space free and windows is
on C: with only a few meg free than the install blows up.

Ken
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315 Science Parkway, Rochester, New York 14620            uupsi!ptsys1!kng
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Subject: Re: Styles and W4W
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 03:52:19 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <1993Jan11.211922.18522@news.mentorg.com> mikelo@cecil.mentorg.com (Mike Lottridge) writes:
>I'd like to change a style definition and see ALL occurances of that
>style change in the document. Instead, only NEW entries with that 
>style show the new definition. If Ihave a paragraph selected with that
>style when I change the style, that paragraph gets updated. However, 
>all other occurances of the style are unchanged.

Well, it sounds as if you are doing something wrong.

Generally if I change a style it changes all the text in that style.

Have you somehow applied other character based formatting changes over
the top of the styles? That might 'lock' the current format.


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From: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Postscript/Lino Woes
Date: 12 Jan 1993 22:46:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa699@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Tony Thomas)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Has anyone had any problems with improper scaling of EPS and TIFF
files using the Windows Postscript Driver and a Lino L300?


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"True riches is not what you have - It's the kind of person you are"
From: ppierald@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Paul Pieralde)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Writing Custom Help Topics in Excel 4.0
Date: 5 Jan 93 23:40:42 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly State Univ,CSC Dept,San Luis Obispo,CA 93407

Hi,
    I need to write some very basic on-line help items for an Excel 4.0
spreadsheet I am working on. How is this done. What I do know is that the
Microsoft Help Compiler is required which I have. I also know that the compiler
uses RTF form. What I want to do is write the text of the help in Word For 
Windows and export it as a RTF file format what I don't know is what 
particular codes do what in the help format. 
    Please send any help, suggestions to:
    ppierald@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu

Thanks.