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From: bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: MODZap fiasco?
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:42:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-scat.jd44984
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.


GO FOR IT!!!!   I have noticed something Ian, the folks who bitch the
loudest tend to shut up when everybody notices them (some kinda juvenile
ego thingie I suppose).... maybe that will shut them up (course, could make
em louder, but everybody would know whose messages to edit out...)
From: tmike@cmptrc.lonestar.org (T. Mike Howeth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Dos 3.3 FST
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:48:15 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1992Oct9.235357.17755@javelin.sim.es.com> mmunson@animal.es.com (Mark Munson) writes:
|
|DOS 3.3 volumes don't have the capabilities that ProDOS volumes do.  As
|a result, file writing aren't available with the DOS 3.3 FST.  After
|all, what would you assign a file that had a FileType and AuxType ID
|when DOS 3.3 can only support 8 file types?
|
Sorry, but this is crap.
Since when is ProDOS the level at which GS/OS supports volumes?  HFS discs
and ProDOS discs have large discrepancies in file typing support, and Apple
kludged GS/OS (or these FSTS, rather) to deal with it.  You seem to be saying
that unless a file can be transported from one filesystem to another and then 
back again without losing information, then the less-capable filesystem does not
need to be supported.  Well, fact is, there is at least one filetype where this 
loss of information occurs between ProDOS and HFS right now.

|Formatting DOS 3.3 volumes requires that you have an Image of DOS 3.3
|to place on them (to make them bootable).  Leaving this feature saves
|quite a bit of memory.
I assume you mean, saves quite a bit of disc space.  SO WHAT?  Let ME decide
how much disc space my copy of the OS should take.

|You can copy files from either DOS 3.3 or Apple Pascal, since there 
|are file types defined under ProDOS for these files.  It would be 
|nice to be able to go both ways, but the programming effort would
|grow a lot if you tried to implement this.
See above.

|I wouldn't expect a write version of DOS 3.3 (or Apple Pascal)
|ever.  You are supposed to be using the much nicer ProDOS file
|system.  Bag the old DOS 3.3 stuff and convert to ProDOS :)

All that said, I agree with this.  But it's NOT because it's not feasable:
it's because Apple refuses to adequately staff the GS/OS dev teams.  They
simply don't have time to do everything that should have been done.

|Is it me, or are my right margins moving in as I type?
Absolutely!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jchappel@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeanne Chappell)
Subject: switch box to switch keyboard between 2 computers?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 13:48:34 GMT


I have an idea for a set up and was wondering if any hardware people
could help me:
 
I plan to hook 2 computers to share 1 hard disk (direct connect).  These
computers are Apple IIGSs with RamFast cards and ZipGS cards.  I have
already talked to CVTech on how to do this.
 
Here's the part on which I need help:
 
I will have computer 1 hooked to keyboard1/monitor1
and         computer 2 hooked to keyboard2/monitor2
 
What I would like to do is hook the keyboards/monitors to a switch box
such that I can flip a switch and keyboard1/monitor1 will then work with
computer 2 - flip the switch again and keyboard2/monitor2 will work with
computer 1 (be able to toggle back and forth between computer1/computer2)
and the same for keyboard2/monitor2.
 
I have looked at CompUSA and various catalogs and can find no such
switch box.  Is there such a box?  Could I use adapter plugs and use
a printer switch box?
 
I would appreciate any help/suggestions anyone can give me.
 
--
Jeanne Chappell
jchappel@nyx.cs.du.edu

--
    Jeanne Chappell        
    jchappel@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Looking for some VERY OLD Apple software!
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:30:31 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <BvoI50.uH@world.std.com> jeffb@world.std.com (Jeffrey T Berntsen) writes:
>I'm looking for copies of what Apple used to call their "Contributed
>Programs" volumes 1 to 5.  These are five diskette, in DOS 3.2 format
>that Apple dealers used to give copies of many years ago.

I have a couple of these.  The rest seem to be missing in action.

>If anyone knows of a current source for these, or better yet, would be
>willing to send me copies (preferably by email), I would be very thankful!

Since they were PD the disks can be shrunk and stuck on an archive.  Might
be nice to see them on tybalt.

>Jeff Berntsen
>jeffb@world.std.com

-- 
fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
[ Above opinions are mine, Amdahl has nothing to do with them, etc, etc. ]
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mxl@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (marc.a.levy)
Subject: Selling......
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 11:52:22 GMT



Selling:

   Apple //gs 'WOZ' with ROM 01 Upgrade
   Apple RGB Monitor
   Apple 3.5 drive
   2 Apple 5.25 drives
   Apple 1 MEG RAM card
   Apple Imagewriter II Color Printer.
   All Manuals and Boxes.  System has VERRY LITTLE use on it.



Also Selling:

    Apple //C system
    Apple external 5.25 drive
    Modem
    Serial-to-paralell converter
    Paralell Sekio printer
    Apple Tilt-screen monitor.


Spare Parts for apple II

    Novation Apple Cat 300/202 MODEM
    Apple 16Sector disk ][ controler card.
    Apple ][ Disk Drive
    Applied Engeneering Z-80 Card
    Assorted Paralell Printer cards.
    Star Micronics 9 pin dot matrix paralell printer.


If interested, E-Mail me!

Marc.
From: calvinc@hawking.berkeley.edu (Calvin Cheng)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Summary: Apple IIc Floppy Drives and C compilers
Date: 16 Oct 1992 23:08:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hawking.berkeley.edu

A couple of days ago, I posted an article on anon-FTP,
assemblers, C compilers, and floppy drives for the Apple IIc
Plus.  Thanks for those who replied.  Unfortunately, due to
some screw ups on my part, I lost track of some of the info
mailed to me or posted on the newsgroup, so here's a summary.

------

The only freeware/shareware C compiler available seems to
be Hyper C which is a Small-C implementation.  This kinda
sucks but I guess I can't expect too much unless I have
a IIGS.  As for assemblers, the only freeware/shareware one
is LISA.  I was given addresses like

	wuarchive.wustl.edu
	ccosun.caltech.edu

It seems that the latter has a more complete collection
at least for what I was looking.  LISA was only found in the
latter.

BTW, whatever happened to commerical releases like
Aztec C?  Or how about Merlin Pro or ORCA/M for the 8-bit
Apple IIs?

------

I asked about connecting Mac 800K 3.5" drives and Apple Disk ///s
to the IIc Plus.

The Mac 800K at issue, predates the Apple 3.5 and is NOT compatible
with the Apple IIc Plus.  The IIc Plus accepts Apple 3.5 but the
older IIc's (must have the newer 32K ROM) only accept the UniDisk 3.5.

One guy pointed to me that the Apple Disk /// has a different
analog board from the Apple II 5.25" drives.  But he wasn't able
to give a definite reply though.  Unfortunately, I've lost track of
the source of this info.

------

Nobody gave any specific place about acquiring memory expansion
boards for the IIc Plus.  So I would like to have an idea of how
much it costs?  Also, I wonder how well those no-slot-clocks work
on the IIc Plus?

------

Calvin Cheng
calvinc@mascot.berkeley.edu
From: mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Jog My Memory....
Date: 14 Oct 92 21:28:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: vela.1992Oct14.212853.26300
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.

In article <imcJsB2w165w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca> bjohnson@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Brian Johnson) writes:
>
>HELP JOG MY MEMORY...!
>------------------
>My question is.. Does anyone know if this card (QRAM-GS) can use 1 MEGx9 
>SIMMS? or is the design restricted to 1 MEGx8 SIMMS. I dunno, because the 
>card was sent to me with "0" documentation and further more, sent as a 
>One MEG card which since I have learned is in fact a 4 MEG card.

It is my understanding that the Q-RAM card should ignore the 9th bit
on the card.  This means that the Q-RAM SHOULD work with 1MEGx9 SIMMS,
but it is not necessarily guaranteed to do so.  I have assembled Q-RAM
cards at Quality Computers, and we have had the 9 chip SIMMS work, but
not all the time.  All I can say is, see if you can get the option to 
return the SIMMs if they don't work on your card, some places will give
a 30 guarantee without a restocking fee... shop around.

	Later,
		...Mike


-- 
Michael Heintz, Oakland University - Rochester, Michigan
InterNet:  mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu 
BITNET:    mkheintz@oakland.BITNET
From: marc@cxr_rs6000.med.ge.com (Marc Wolfgram)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:  BostonFest News?
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:12:56 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>So, didja sell a zillion dollars worth of Foundation, or did T2 steal all
your thunder?

Twilight II and Foundation have different markets at this time Joe, with
Foundation's being a subset of Twilight II's... T2 is a great success, but
I just want to point out that we let Jim Maricondo (DYA) share space in
our booth - frankly, it drew a crowd, and anyone will tell you that that
is a very good thing regardless of you market audience.  Foundation did
well at Boston with the release of 1.0.1 - Wait 'til later this year as
we start rolling out native editors for such things as Icons/Bundles, etc.

Marc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mccla_d@aethelbehrt.cs.odu.edu (dennis mcclain-furmanski)
Subject: RE: IMAGEWRITER TO A PC & IIGS?
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA
Distribution: comp.sys.apple2
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:03:48 GMT

dbehrens@miamiu.bitnet says:

> ... is there a way I can hook up my Imagewriter II to both my Apple IIgs
> and an IBM clone.

Both at the same time, you'll need a switch box. Here's the goodies on the
PC connection, from archives of old Fidonet messages. I tried to send these
in repsonse to another question of the same sort just a few days ago, but
the postnews was busted here.

=====
      To:  All                        Message #:  1729 
    From:  Jim Coffey                 Submitted:  18 Jan 91 17:34:00  
 Subject:  IW to IBM                     Status:  Public
Received:  No                             Group:  APPLE (24)

You can use an IW on an IBM - the IW is a standard RS-232 interface-
Connect the big 7 1-1 2-3 3-2 7-7 etc and you'll have the cable
you need.  can't do graphics, but it will do text just fine.


--- Opus-CBCS 1.14
 * Origin: BRIDGER, Ambridge Schools, Ambridge, PA (1:129/55.0)
=-=-=-=-=
      To:  Martin Henry               Message #:  1982     1812 .Thread
    From:  Barry Fox                  Submitted:  15 Jan 91 19:11:00  
 Subject:  Interfacing an Image Writ     Status:  Public
Received:  No                             Group:  APPLE (24)

RE: Interfacing an Image Writer II to a PC
SGID: 1:270/101.16 2793b738
In a message of <Jan 13 20:06>, Martin Henry (1:322/1) writes: 
 >I have recently made the conversion form MAC's to PC's and I have a 
 >lot of left over hardware.  Has anyone had experience in hooking up an 
 >Image Writer II printer to a PC?  What hardware/software required?
 >Thanks for your help.


Martin,
        You will need to connect the IW II via a com port.  You
can use the following commands in your autoexec.bat file to get it to work:

Mode Com1:96,n,8,1,p
Mode LPT1:=Com1

The first one sets up com1 to 9600 baud, 8N1 data word format and
tells MS-DOS that it should retry if the printer is busy.  The
second line redirects output from LPT1 to COM1.  If you are using
COM2 make the appropriate changes.  You can find drivers for most
software by either looking for an Imagewriter II driver
(Printshop and WordPerfect 5.1 have them) or use a driver for a
C.Itoh 8510 which is the equivalent for text and graphics for the
IW II.  Good luck, I have an IW II and a Laserjet III that is
shared by an MS-DOS clone and an Apple IIgs.
--------Barry Fox
 

--- msged 2.05
 * Origin: Fox's Point @ The Other BBS  (1:270/101.16)
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>%> Clinical Psychology             AOL: Dynasoar01@AOL.COM          <%<
>%> Old Dominion University         New Beginnings @ Serenity Lodge  <%<
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: ShrinkIt GS 1.1 (cont.)
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:43:54 GMT

David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>BINGO - GSHK11.SEA was 9 bytes too long.  It turns out that SSCII had
>rounded the file up to the nearest 16 byte boundary.  In effect, there
>was a partial header for an extra segment, which means the IIgs System
>Loader didn't like the file.

>This problem only applies to SSCII.  The archive was the correct length
>when extracted with GSCII+ (the NDA) or BINSCII (the ProDOS-8
>application).


>Derek Taubert, where are you?  Fix this problem in SSCII, please!!!
>I'm running version 2.3 - March 1992.

  SScii is correct.  It appears that the method Andy used to get the
file to comp.binaries.apple2 rounded the file up to the next block
size.  Binscii/SScii both correctly maintain a file's EOF.
  Ian Schmidt had this same problem (of the cba2 file being too long),
and he sciibin'd it on his Unix box.

-- 
 Jawaid Bazyar              |   Ask me about the GNO Multitasking Environment
 Procyon, Inc.              |   for the Apple IIgs!   
 bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu         |   P.O Box 620334
 --Apple II Forever!--      |   Littleton, CO 80162-0334   (303) 933-4649
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell)
Subject: >Brendan Hoar, OctoRAM
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date:  8 Oct 92 23:08:09 GMT

From GS+ (and my big file of addresses):
 
T. B. C. Consulting, Repair, and Resale
Octo-RAM (8 Meg, SIMM, IIGS RAM card)
PO Box 378
Cortland, IL  60112
(coincidence? Peter Baum in Cortland?)
(815)758-5040
 
 
Jay
 
Internet: jay.krell@cornell.edu
America Online: JayKrell
GEnie: J.Krell1

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage)
Subject: Re: apple bugs address
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 21:40:15 GMT
Organization: Developer Technical Support, Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2

In article <jmk3.718423711@crux1.cit.cornell.edu>,
jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay Krell) wrote:
> 
> Does anyone know the address at Apple that's meant for bug reports?
> I used to have it, something like apple.bugs@apple.com, but can't find and
> can't figure it out. I tried apple.bugs and bugs@apple.com

Try apple.bugs@applelink.apple.com.

============================================================================
Matt Deatherage, Developer Support Center, Apple Computer, Inc.
Personal mail only -- please POST technical questions, questions about
Apple and its policies, where to find documents and related inquiries.
The opinions I express don't represent Apple, which makes us both happy.
============================================================================
From: joko@WELL.SF.CA.US (Joe Kohn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re:  BostonFest News?
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:29:42 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Oh. I was mistaken. For some reason, I thought that maybe you were
publishing T2. I didn't realize you were just sharing booth space. You know
how the rumor mill works, and that it's usually inaccurate <g>. 
 
Joe
From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: MODZap fiasco?
Date: 8 Oct 92 03:37:08 GMT
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Oct8.021815.339@news.iastate.edu> irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:
>Heh, no, Amrit wasn't one of the people I was originally cheesed at, but he's
>certainly earned a place on that list now.  James Brookes and Mike Horwath and
>I are debating releasing MZ 0.85 with a splash page consisting of the email
>addresses of the culprits...

	Hmmm, some people might think of that as a reward...  If you
released a MZ v.85 before, chances are you wouldn't have put their
names on the splash screen.  I wouldn't be surprised if you got a few
letters now, because they WANT their names on the screen... :)

	Personally, I wouldn't do that... why don't you put the people
who thanked you in the docs or on the splash screen. (maybe a
scrollable list is more appropriate now... :))

>      Ian Schmidt: irsman@iastate.edu or aol.com, BITNET: twbv4@isuvax       

Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY 16/256/3200
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple IIGS.
America On_Line:  DWS Steve
Genie:  S.Chiang4              Apple IIGS Forever!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jchappel@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeanne Chappell)
Subject: connect 2 computers - 1 HD
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 19:54:24 GMT

 
I recently asked a question on the net in which I made the statement that
I am hooking TWO Apple IIGSs to use the same hard drive.  I have had
several E-Mail request about how to do this.  I thought I would place the
info on comp.sys.apple2 for anyone that is interested:
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
When two computers are connected to use the same hard drive you must have
your setup such that both computers DO NOT write to the same volume.  You
connect the two computers to the hard drive by directly connecting a SCSI
cable from each computer directly to one of the two connecters on the back
of the hard drive.  If you have RamFast SCSI cards in both computers you
must have RamFast ROM version 1 in one computer and RamFast ROM version 2
or 3 in the other computer.  The reason for this is:  RamFast ROM version
2 and 3 use the same place in memory to store the RamFast configuration -
version 1 uses a different location.
 
Example configuration:
 
                      SCSI card            VOLUME.1           VOLUME.2
     computer 1      RamFast v2 or 3       Read/Write         READ ONLY
     computer 2      RamFast v1            READ ONLY          Read/Write
 
 
The volumes that are READ ONLY should be write protected in the RamFast
configuration.  (Remember if you boot both computers into the Finder on
the same volume, the Finder constantly writes to disk so one of the
computers MUST have this volume write protected)

OK - this works great except for one problem:  If you update a file
(write) in volume.1 with computer 1 then turn around and read that file
with computer 2, the file read IS NOT UPDATED.  The reason for this is
that the RamFast card in computer 2 has stored in cache the directory
location of the old file (before updated) so that is what will be read
into memory.
 
I just hung up from talking to CVTech (again - talked to them a lot this
past week *:) ) and there is no way around this with RamFast cards in both
computers.  I need to be able to read the updated file so it was suggested
that I do it this way:  Use a RamFast SCSI card in computer 1 and an Apple
SCSI card in computer 2.  That is the next thing I am going to try.

   - Jeanne -

--
    Jeanne Chappell        
    jchappel@nyx.cs.du.edu 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: awillis@athena.mit.edu (Albert Willis)
Subject: Re: EXPO EAST-SPELLBINDER
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 03:45:02 GMT

Yeah, there were some kids at the show selling this game. They wrote it using
HyperStudio. I didn't see it myself, but I heard that it was pretty cool.

We are working on getting them at a future meeting of the Boston Computer
Society's Apple II user group. Stay tuned.

Albert Willis
Co-director,
BCS Apple II user group
From: JKG2@psuvm.psu.edu (Dr. John King Gamble Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: AppleWorks GS problems
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:36:00 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

Listen to this and tell me if it sounds familiar...
I am having trouble with AppleWorks GS. Just getting it to launch is an off-on
proposition. Double-clicking on the application icon gets me to a blank desktop
where 50% of the time it hangs, and of that 50%, it leaves a black square under
the cursor at the time it dies. When I do make it in, any page layout document
larger than a few pages will eventually crash, sometimes putting up a 'Not
enough memory to complete that operation' warning - while changing the border
color to another color.

I have reinstalled the system software, reinstalled Appleworks GS from two
different sets of originals, (one set mine, I know what your thinking),
verified the hard disk, ran the built in memory checker and the one w/AWGS.
Extras include Pointless, WriteIt and AutoMenus. Shift booting does'nt help.
I have a 4 meg CV-Tech RAM card and a 40 meg Sider (D4A?) ROM 1 GS.

Is AWGS that bad? Who out there uses AWGS with 12 page page-lauout docs and
has no problems? What is the secret? Aaaaaaaa!!! Clis, fix AWGS!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:16:42 EDT
From: <SAB121@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Finder Icon question
 <1992Oct7.045255.12717@unlinfo.unl.edu>

In article <1992Oct7.045255.12717@unlinfo.unl.edu>, aberigan@nde.unl.edu (A.
Berigan) says:
>
>slhood@bluemoon.rn.com (Stephen L. Hood) writes:
>>acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron Higgins) writes:
>
>>>I'm posting this for a friend.
>>>
>>>He wants to know if there is a way to name an icon something unrelated to
>>>the filename of the application on disk.
>>>
>>>ex. File on disk is called: /hard1/apps/util.system
>>>    He'd like the icon to appear with a name of "Copy II Plus"
>>>
>>>Is there a way to do this?
>
>Or, you could rename the file Copy.II.Plus and set up another icon so
>that it will properly iconify the application by that name (perhaps as
>well).  BC3.SYSTEM won't find it then, of course.
>
I seem to remember doing that at one point in time.  BC3.SYSTEM found it just
fine.  I really am not sure why it worked, and I don't really remember how
I did it (I think I changed the title, then used Icon.Edit or somethine
like that to change the icon to point to the new name...)

Anyways, I think this would work just fine. I believe that BC3 just exits back
to the Util segment no matter what the name.

>Hmm, can you set up aliasing on an HFS volume?  Can you set it to alias
>to a seperate volume?  (I just stumbled upon aliasing today on a Mac.)
>

Hmmmm... Don't think it would work.  I'm pretty sure that it only works with
system 7, and even if you set them up on the disk, then run System 6.x on it
you cannot use them.  Not sure though, I guess I'll have to dig out the manuals
at school and try it...

>
>--     o
>      /\_         (10/3)  1/      (11/3)
>  ---P\--~\_    WF      + /(10-WF)
>__P")=/-'_(`)__
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~aberigan@nde.unl.edu (Greg Berigan)
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