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From: scott@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (scott evans)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: 6th season guest star (major SPOILER)
Date: 24 Jul 92 22:19:59 GMT
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy

In article <1682DB130.MISEWD1@kentvm.kent.edu> MISEWD1@kentvm.kent.edu writes:
>I think the original poster of this message meant Scotty would be
>the same age as he appeared in STVI; not any older. 
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Right. It will be Scotty, as he appeared shortly after STVI:TUC. It will
not be his son, either! Any more speculations, anyone?

Scott Evans
UCLA Astronomy
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From: rmbandy@athena.mit.edu (Reba M Bandyopadhyay)
Subject: Shatner and Nimoy in Boston--a request
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:33:27 GMT

Hello all.  I went to the 25th anniversary tour of William Shatner and 
Leonard Nimoy here in Boston on the 17th.  Unfortunately, I did not bring a
camera, although I noticed plenty of people at the event did!  So I have a 
request:  if anyone out there reading this went to the Boston appearance and
took photos, would you be willing to make me a few copies of any good shots
of Nimoy and Shatner?  I would of course pay for the cost of the copies, and
for whatever postage it might cost to mail the photos to me if it isn't 
convenient to drop them off at MIT.  Any response would be greatly
appreciated!  Please write me via email, as it is often hard to keep up with
the volume of posts on these groups.  Thanks very much in advance!


-- 

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From: kostj@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jason E. Kost)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: Are any Star Trek cast members ST fans?
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:06:01 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico

In article <1992Jul22.165235.57441@cc.usu.edu> sll28@cc.usu.edu (LORNA_PAYNE) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.160716.9548@maths.tcd.ie>, pmoloney@maths.tcd.ie (Paul Moloney) writes:
>Cast members that I know are also fans:  Nichelle Nichols, George Takei, 
>Whoopi Goldberg, and Leonard Nimoy.  Nichols and Takei have been especially
>active in promoting Star Trek and the ideals it presents.  Goldberg got
>the job as Guinan because she begged Roddenberry for it;  she just wanted
>to be a part of the mythos, even for a one-shot guest role.  Nimoy had a
>bad time for a while (remember "I am not Spock"?) but now that he's known
>as a top director and a respected actor as well as Spock, seems much 
>happier about being active in Star Trek.
>
>One thing to remember:  these people are busy *producing* the show.  They
>don't have time to read the net, collect stuff, or write fanfic.  Their 
>perspective on Star Trek is very different from ours.
>
>Lorna
>-- 
Jonathan Frakes is also a fan of ST.  He tried out for the part because of his
interest.

Just another addition to the list,
--Jason
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From: hinson@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (Jason W. Hinson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: 6th season guest star (major SPOILER)
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:20:05 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Physics Department

In article <1992Jul31.081533.24040@wixer.cactus.org> raistlin@wixer.cactus.org (Eli Boaz) writes:
:In article <5829@ucru2.ucr.edu> judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:
:>In article <1992Jul30.191741.14333@husc3.harvard.edu> rivera@scws9.harvard.edu  
:>(Francisco Rivera) writes:
:>> they may not be in communication range for some reason.  Well, if their
:>> warp system were to fail and they would not be able to repair it, they
:>> would be forced to return on impluse power.  Since impulse power does not
:>> warp space and follows normal Einsteinian principles, since they would
:>> be going near the speed of light, they would not age as fast as we would
:>
:>What you say is true, according to Einstein.  And has been proven true
:>even on Earth, placing two different clocks on two different airplanes
:>going different speeds, etc.  (read it if your interested).  However,
:>the Star Trek show does not take this into account.  If they did, then
:>time would be so distorted for everybody.  Traveling at near light speed
:>for even an hour slows down the relative clock by 60 years.  And the 
:>Enterprise, A-D does a tremendous amount of traveling at warp 6, 7, etc.
:>Thus, at speeds well over light, even a minute would last several years
:>on Earth.  Thus, Star Trek can not possibly take into account the
:>realtivity of time.  And therefore, your theory, though correct
:>technically (although only with our knowledge) is incorrect as the show
: concerned.
:
:Well, actually, it's my belief that they never exceed the speed of
:light...  Okay (here comes rationalization...) a) the drive is called
:_warp_ drive.  That implies that they are `warping' something, in this
:case, the space-time continuum.  What i think they are doing is
:warping space, and then proceeding to move at normal speeds...
:(if anyone wants me to post a diagram then reply!  I'm posting this
:under the assumption that everyone here can think... =) )
:
:ttyl,
:Eli


I just commented on Michael Judson's above message, and I wanted to add
something:
 
According to the Technical manual, impulse drive IS effected by normal
relativity factors; however, in this Sci Fi universe, warp drive is not
effected (for various sci fi reasons).  Therefore it allows faster than
light travel.
 
-Jay
From: Michael_Weber@k.maus.de (Michael Weber)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: irish
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 13:41:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Hallo David,

l>in "up the long ladder"  who is the actress who wanted riker to wash her feet
starting from the head and working the way down?

She is Rosalyn Landor, "Brenna O'Dell", the daughter of "Danilo O'Dell".
                                                        (Barrie Ingham)

Gruss, MIKE
Germany
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From: nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn)
Subject: Re: Nimoy takes over for Gene....
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:47:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.195759.6674@jyu.fi> mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano) writes:
>In article <1992Jul19.032700.520@pro-freedom.cts.com> pip@pro-freedom.cts.com (David Pipgras) writes:
>>
>>It seems that Leonard Nimoy (Spock) is becoming more and more involved with
>>Star Trek, from a behind-the-scenes aspect, and some people feel that he
>>may be in-line to "take over" or at least continue where Gene Roddenberry
>>left off, with being able to develop *BETTER* stories...
>>
>>Dave
>
>  I don't know about the rest of you netters, but I feel damn good about
>  this!  I have a feeling, that Nimoy is the right person to take over
>  Gene's work.  I hope these rumors are correct.
>	
>	- Mika

Here, here!  Wow, I hope so.  He's an absolutely gifted director.


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From: tiverson@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Thor Iverson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: 6th season guest star (major SPOILER)
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:24:45 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, Boston, MA. 02115, USA

In article <weRAZI_00Vok02SJkz@andrew.cmu.edu> rt16+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert Edward Timlin) writes:
>     Hmm, well add that to the list of bonus transporter malfunction features:
>
>              -> Switch transportees between mirror universes
>              -> Split transportees into good and evil halves
>              -> Throw transportees 70+ years into the future

Don't forget:

    	       -> Returning transportees to their age at last transport

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From: rws3n@astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU (Robert W. Spiker)
Subject: Re: 6th season guest star (major SPOILER)
Reply-To: rws3n@astsun.astro.Virginia.EDU (Robert W. Spiker)
Organization: Department of Astronomy, Univ. of Virginia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:08:14 GMT


wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.112333.8196@mic.ucla.edu>
scott@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (scott evans) writes:

>>
>>Jimmy Doohan will appear as Scotty on the 4th or 5th (or so) episode of
>>6th season, TNG. According to Ron Moore, he will not be a holodeck
>>image, will not be old (like the "admiral" in EatF), and will not be the
>>result of time travel. The idea Ron has come up with is quite good...I
>>guess that's why he's on staff and we'er not!!!
>
>Well, the only option left is that somehow Scotty gets into a situation
>where he does not age for 80 or so years.  Maybe he was frozen or 
>something.  The interesting question is how and why.
>
In article <14kcq7INNcsr@agate.berkeley.edu> (on r.a.s.i)
bill@tv.tek.com (William K. McFadden) forwarded this information from
Marty Steinberg (martys@microsoft.com) on the Seattle convention
report, which contains this information on DS9:


    The speaker [who was not named] also said that there will be a
    guest character on Deep Space 9 with a 23rd century engineering
    background and a scottish accent...


I put two and two together, and figured Scotty comes jumping out of the
wormhole.

Followups to this article ought to go somewhere.  I can't figure out
where, though :-/


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From: steve@sep.Stanford.EDU (Steve Cole)
Subject: Re: 6th season guest star (major SPOILER)
Organization: Stanford Exploration Project
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:11:04 GMT

In article <92209.191443NAG101@psuvm.psu.edu>, NAG101@psuvm.psu.edu (Nick Giacobe) writes:
|> Why can't Scotty come back as a Holodeck creation?  Maybe Geordi is trying to
|> figure out some early inter-stellar travel stuff and calls up Scotty the way he
|> did Lea Brahms (did I spell that right?)

Geordi: "Computer, simulate Chief Engineer Scott of the U.S.S
	 Enterprise."
Computer: "Do you want the young, slender Chief Engineer Scott
	   or the old, heavy Chief Engineer Scott? Please specify."
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From: wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez)
Subject: Re: 6th season guest star (major SPOILER)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 19:15:50 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Engineering
Originator: wombat@coke.eng.umd.edu

In article <1992Jul22.112333.8196@mic.ucla.edu> scott@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (scott evans) writes:

>
>Jimmy Doohan will appear as Scotty on the 4th or 5th (or so) episode of
>6th season, TNG. According to Ron Moore, he will not be a holodeck
>image, will not be old (like the "admiral" in EatF), and will not be the
>result of time travel. The idea Ron has come up with is quite good...I
>guess that's why he's on staff and we'er not!!!

Well, the only option left is that somehow Scotty gets into a situation
where he does not age for 80 or so years.  Maybe he was frozen or 
something.  The interesting question is how and why.  (I do hope he's
not a semi-regualar as has been suggested.  With all these TOS people
showing up on TNG, the suspention of disbelief is shooting to sky-high 
levels.)


-- 
Jose Gonzalez
                       Spock- "In your own way, you are as stubborn as another
                               captain of the Enterprise I once knew."
                       Picard-"Then I'm in good company, sir."  
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From: bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP (Austin Phelps)
Subject: Re: 6th season guest star (major SPOILER)
Reply-To: bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:17:14 GMT

umlippen@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Rick Lippens) writes:

> This is impossible as when the Captain of the time travelling vessel was
> asked what StarDate it was by Picard, he replied with 2200-something.  This
> stardate occurred during the first/second year of Enterprise's 5 year mission
> to "boldly go where no man has gone before".  Thus Scotty would have been on 
> Enterprise.  
> 
> Perhaps Scotty has a brother?  Evil twin??  Cousin?

When Picard stated that this is the Enterprise I was suprised there was 
NO reaction by the other captain. It seems that captain doesn't know his 
captain. If I remember right JTK was the youngest captain <I will allow 
to be corrected :)>

Austin C. Phelps                bbs-aphelps@jwt.UUCP

"Let History Never Forget the Name Enterprise" Yesterday Enterprise
From: Scott Gorcey <scottgor@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: Fanzine Legality?
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 18:39:07 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

ramsey@netcon.cua.edu (Betsy Ramsey) writes:

> In article <1992Jul14.153052.11741@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu>,
> scduncan@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Sean C. Duncan, Idiot) writes:
> 
> >I'm considering starting a fanzine. [...]
> 
> >I'm curious as to if there are any basic guidlines that one must have to
> >follow, according to Paramount's decree, in order that I avoid Tartikoff's
> >wrath if I decide to do this...
> 
> I think the main concern is $$$.  I suspect that if you don't make a
> profit on your zine, and can show that you didn't make a profit on it,
> you don't have much to worry about.
> 

     Whatever you do, don't ask Paramount for "permission" or 
     write a "Is this okay for us to do?" letter.  The official
     position of Paramount on fanzines is that they are an
     infringement of their rights as copyright holders of the
     Star Trek franchise.  
     And, technically, they are just that.  However, another
     legal point of view holds that fanzines are FREE PROMOTION
     of the product for Paramount, and therefore, permissable:
     if and only if said "free promotion" isn't making any money
     DIRECTLY from the technically illegal use of Paramount's
     copyright.
     This doesn't mean you can't charge for your fanzine.  It
     doesn't even mean you can't charge more than just the xerox
     cost - it just means you have to keep the word "FAN" emblazoned
     in your mind when creating the 'zine.
     
     It wouldn't be Tartikoff's wrath coming down on you, incidentally,
     it would be the Paramount licencing and legal departments in
     tandem - arguably closer to the warth of God than Tartikoff 
     ever could be.
     However, no - I repeat, NO - Star Trek fan clubs or fan club
     publications have EVER been charged with any form of copyright
     infringement.  And NO Star Trek fan club or fan club publication
     has ever been "pressured" into ceasing production by Paramount.
     So, don't worry about it: have fun.

     -Scott Gorcey (soon to be back at v075q5fr@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu)

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From: cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16)
Subject: Re: 6th season guest star (major SPOILER)
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore Campus, Academic Computing Services
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:31:29 GMT

>Jimmy Doohan will appear as Scotty on the 4th or 5th (or so) episode of
>6th season, TNG. According to Ron Moore, he will not be a holodeck
>image, will not be old (like the "admiral" in EatF), and will not be the
>result of time travel. The idea Ron has come up with is quite good...I
>guess that's why he's on staff and we'er not!!!

When you say he will not be old like the "admiral" at Enounter at Farpoint
that implies the physical sense if I am not mistaken? Perhaps some sort of
fountain of youth? Some sort of freezing process? A million possibilities!

In any event I honestly hope he makes Geordi look stupid or else shows them
all something only an old timer would have been creative enough to do!
From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (LORNA_PAYNE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: Are any Star Trek cast members ST fans?
Date: 25 Jul 92 17:57:04 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Jul23.163745.1376@iplmail.orl.mmc.com>, 
   billr@iplmail.orl.mmc.com (Bill Richmond) writes:
 
> 	Well, let's not forget Patrick Stewart...He used to watch Star Trek
> as an afternoon diversion while in between Shakespearean performances.
> He's an incredibly charismatic, witty, & charming person BTW...If you have a 
> chance to see him, I would highly reccommend it...
 
But watching the show does not make a fan.  Stewart has also said that he 
was completely unaware of the "mystique" of the show, and unprepared for
the intensity of attention he would receive as part of it.  

Lorna 
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From: buggy@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Jeff C. Green)
Subject: Re: o'brien's rank (again)
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 06:43:35 GMT

According to Ronald D. Moore, STTNG writer, at a recent Creation Con held
here in Portland, Miles Edward O'Brien holds the rank of Chief Petty Officer.

--
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       "The more things change, the more they stay the same."
				   - Spinal Tap
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Jeff C. Green                                  buggy@qiclab.scn.rain.com
	"The less things change, the more they stay the same."
				      - Spinal Tap
From: david@xlnt.com (David Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Are any Star Trek cast members ST fans?
Date: 20 Jul 92 19:18:38 GMT
Organization: XLNT Designs, Inc (XDI)

I saw an interview with Whoopi Goldberg about 2 years ago and she said
she does TNG because she admired TOS's breaking new ground in TV and
addressing social issues.  She also said she did TNG because she wanted
to be a part of history.  I believe her since she was already an established
star and did not need to do TNG.

BTW, Nichelle Nichols said she was going to resign from TOS after the
first year but Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. told her that her role was the
first that portrayed a black person in a respectable way.

Anyway, sometimes I wonder what the cast really thinks of the show and its
fans.  Sometimes I think they do not really like the show and think
ST fans are just a bunch of geeks and are very uncomfortable going to
conventions.  Ms. Goldberg is not like that but I wonder about the others.
-- 
David Johnson
XLNT Designs, Inc. (XDI)
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From: umlippen@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Rick Lippens)
Subject: Re: 6th season guest star (major SPOILER)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:25:53 GMT

In <1992Jul26.002803.1590@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16) writes:

>> Depending on how one defines "Time Travel", Scotty could have been on the
>> Soyuz-class ship that was caught in the time loop this season.  The one
>> where Kelsey Grammer (sp?) played the laid-back captain with an attitude
>> right out of the ST VII time frame - just like he should have.

>This is the first decent idea I have seen...I don't remember the exact number
>of years, but I think they were probably about right for the gap from the
>movie to ST:TNG. 

This is impossible as when the Captain of the time travelling vessel was
asked what StarDate it was by Picard, he replied with 2200-something.  This
stardate occurred during the first/second year of Enterprise's 5 year mission
to "boldly go where no man has gone before".  Thus Scotty would have been on the
Enterprise.  

Perhaps Scotty has a brother?  Evil twin??  Cousin?

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From: linda@cbnews.cb.att.com (linda.f.desmond)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: ST episode #70 and 73 wanted
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:58:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

I have complete collection of the old ST TV series on video, but am missing
episodes #70 - Let that be your last battlefield
          #73- The Lights of Zatar
Have been watching for these in re-run, but they have not been shown for
the past couple of years in the Boston/Southern NH area to the best of my
knowledge.

I would be willing to trade episodes for these or pay reasonable fee for
these episodes.

Can anyone help me out?


Linda Desmond
mvuxi!linda
908-960-5794



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From: markb@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Julie Bixby)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Trek Exhibit at Smithsonian Extended
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:52:06 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

In article <1992Jul30.194752.9870@cvgs.schools.virginia.edu> tbrown@cvgs.schools.virginia.edu (Travis Brown) writes:
>
>Could someone please (via E-mail so as not to bug anyone else)
>give me CURRENT info on the Smithsonian ST exhibit (i.e. when
>it's over, how to get tickets, when's best to go, etc.)

The exhibit's original run was through September. However, due to popular
demand, it has been extended until January 31, 1993. For info, call
(202) 786-2122.

-- 
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