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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: TEACH CHAT AREA      
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 11:28:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Hi Ted,

You said:

-> On the other hand, your comment:
->
-> tw> Maybe we could start with the
-> tw> use of an unused channel and see how it flies.
->
-> was an excellent idea, certainly easier to sell than the idea of
-> opening TCH_CHAT up. :-)
->
-> Of course, I have no idea, or only a slim one, of how to go about
-> establishing and promoting such a thing.
->
-> I'd like to know how others feel about using K-12NET for dialogue
-> with parents.

I don't know how anyone else feels, but these are my thoughts:

1) I think it is fine for parents to read and post in K12_Teacher_Chat.

2) I know that if a second area were opened up (a K12_PTA area was
suggested once) I know I wouldn't have time to start reading a new area.
I wonder how many teachers would start reading that area? Or would all
the parents be in there alone by themselves?

Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                                                                                             

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From: Holly.Brady@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Holly Brady)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: teacher of the year
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 20:04:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

Hi, Bob. Nice to hear from you.
Regarding your question about the Teacher of the Year program, the
policy has been to accept project descriptions from teachers no matter
what platform they use--IBM, Apple or something else. We've always
looked for good teaching ideas regardless of hardware. The only time
that things become "IBM" is in awarding prizes: all prizes are donated
from IBM so they're all IBM machines.
By the way, the Call for Entries packet for this year's Teacher of the
Year program will be in our February issue. Watch for it, and talk it
up among your teacher friends. Best, Holly
  ORIGIN-Gahanna Lincoln H.S. Mane BBS (Gahanna, Ohio)



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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Greetings from Down Under
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 12:10:32 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

G'day Peter,

Tuesday December 08 1992 23:21, Peter Macinnis wrote to John Feltham:

 > You can win beers on the Lt/Capt bit, BTW

You can win beers on this one too, Peter. What nationality was the first person to circumnavigate the world? There has to be documentary proof.

Again, hold your reply for six weeks please....

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From: James.Bannan@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (James Bannan)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Cities at 45o Lat Nth
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:18:16 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

Do you live near the latitude of 45 degrees North???? I am interested in linking up people at similar latitudes North and South to join in the Global Environment watch.  Lius Turner works in a school in New Zealand at 45 degrees South.  The idea is compare your environment in the North with that in the South.  Have your students or yourself establish a link and compare what are similar and different about your environments.  Do you have simailar plants, bugs animals?  Are the seasons the same?  Do you have

 the same amount of sunlight?
Linus Turner is at Bayfield High School, Dunedin, New Zealand (3:770/505.11) and is just getting into K-12.
Come and join the Global Environment Watch in Channel 9 and tell me about your backyard.
Cheers   Jimbo Down Under
Merry Christmas


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From: Julie.Rosenoff@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Julie Rosenoff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Portland K12Net access
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 12:49:48 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

 
Eric ,
 
I read in your message the other day regarding
telecommunications and Portland:
 
EB> HI MARK. You don't have to use the
EB>internet. It's right here on  k12.
 
I am going to be doing a 1 hour presentation at the
NCCE (Northwest Council for Computer Education) 
conference coming up the end of January in Portland.  
I'll be talking about two networks I use, including
K12Net.  I was curious if you could give me specifc
information on how teachers in Portland can
access K12Net without having access to Internet.
(i.e., phone number and who runs the BBS and what
its name is....)
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Julie Rosenoff


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From: Robert.Hudson@f540.n226.z1.fidonet.org (Robert Hudson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Thank You
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 17:04:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:226/540 - The Tele-Forum Netw, Columbus OH

Dear Holly,
    Thanks so much for getting back to me on this.  I was sure that T&L
would consider any good programs, but others doubted this.  Our year has
been one of trying to make the best out of what we have acquired in the
past.  We lost our tech. administrator to an America 2000 project.  This
has left us in a state of "rebirth" as we manage to find replacements
for his many jobs.
    Everything else is going well.  I look forward to being reunited
with many members of Teachers International Exchange as we embark upon
the maiden voyage of TIEnet this winter.  We're all excited about the
possibilities.
    Thanks again for the reply.  Best wishes to you this holiday season.
                                       Sincerely,  Bob
  ORIGIN-Gahanna Lincoln H.S. Mane BBS (Gahanna, Ohio)



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From: Mike.Connealy@p0.f104.n305.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Connealy)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: New Mexico
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 14:16:16 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:305/104.0 - The Eclectic Compan, Las Cruces NM

> We now have to find you on a map and wonder what it is

> like living where you are.

------

  We're about forty miles north of El Paso and the Rio Grande border 

of the Mexican State of Chihuahua.  I first passed through this area 

over twenty years ago on my way back from a trip to Mexico City.  

The vision of the clear blue skies of New Mexico and the peculiar 

quality of the light drew me back here about seven years ago.  With 

a population of around 50,000, Las Cruces was also about as big a 

town as I felt I could tolerate.

  Our daughters got through the school system here in reasonably 

good shape; one just started attending New Mexico State University, 

and the other is about to go into her last semester at Rice in 

Houston and is considering a career in teaching.  I'm feeling like 

our timing was good as we are seeing mounting violence in the local 

schools including a couple of recent instances of middle school kids 

showing up for class with guns.  Still, I think we have quite a way 

to go before Las Cruces catches up with places like LA and NYC.

  The Rio Grande, which skirts the west side of town on its way to 

the Gulf of Mexico, nurtures some expansive pecan orchards near-by, 

as well as a world-famous crop of hot red and green chiles which 

Americans are now ingesting in record amounts.  Ten minutes by car 

from town you find yourself in arid high desert country where cows 

and creosote brush are the dominant life forms.  My wife and I 

venture out into that desert every weekend with our greyhounds to 

exercise the local jackrabbits.

  On yesterday's trip we rousted few rabbits, but I did stumble on 

as fine an arrowhead as I've ever found.  It was a long narrow one 

with finely serrated edges, a needle-like point and "ears" formed by 

the notches for the sinew attachment to the arrow shaft.  The 

projectile was probably launched at a mule deer by a member of a 

band of hunter-gatherers, though it could conceivably have been 

aimed at a Blue Coat by one of Geronimo's warriors given the area's 

history.



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From: Gunter.Kirchhoff@f128.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Gunter Kirchhoff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: new BBS
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 12:49:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/128 - Genesis BBS, Calgary Alta

Hi Teachers in the City of Calagary,

There is a new BBS here - it carries the K12 NEt and others...

          Gunter

   *-+=< Are rules REALLY ONLY for others? >=+-*


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From: Keith.Bobbitt@f40.n2310.z1.fidonet.org (Keith Bobbitt)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Concern about K12
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 07:36:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2310/40 - EVSC BBS, Evansville IN

Hello Robin,

Give me the names of your kids.  You'll get mail!

Keith


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From: Nancy.Freburg@p15.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Nancy Freburg)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: teacher
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:57:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.15 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Hi, again Richard.  I will be sending you a message every time the kids do a
message for one of your kids.  Eventually I hope to get the kids names entered
on the BBS so that I do not have to send them through me.  The message I am
sending today is entitled "penp15" and is for a female student from
Theresa in Highland Park Sixth Grade.  FRom here on out until the kids
get on the Board, I will send the messages under the subject of their
name.  The three kids who have sent messages -- Theresa, Ben, and one other
will be looking forward to a response after the Christmas break.  I wish
you a Merry Christmas.

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From: Peter.Macinnis@p0.f508.n711.z3.fidonet.org (Peter Macinnis)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: A CONTACT
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 20:39:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:711/508.0 - The Bay, Neutral Bay NSW

;rep:111,4220
LT>CANBERRA?

LT>I'd tell you a joke but I got told off for that last time...

But you just did.  In block letters, too!

     peter




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From: Jeff.Harrits@f921.n720.z6.fidonet.org (Jeff Harrits)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Bbs training
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 09:47:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 6:720/921 - World Data Exchange, Taipei Taiwan

 LK>I too am preparing a training workshop
 LK>to take to local schools this Spring. Is your stack
 LK>set up to simulate logging on and finding the K12 echos ?

At the moment I haven't included K12 echos, but that would be a good idea.
 I'll have to solicite some special messages from this conference and probably the elementary chat, news, and "MathMagic" project.  Hm...how to keep it simple.  Actually, I'm still trying to work out a couple of scripting bugs - I'm not the most proficient HyperTalk scripter yet.

 LK>How many teachers were involved at one time? Usually the demonstrations have included fifteen to twenty teachers and out of that usually two or three decide to follow up and experience BBSing.  The good news is that there are several teachers helping one another out, so even though it essentially becomes one-on-one tutoring, I don't have to do all the work.

BTW - I'll be giving a demonstration to the local Phi Delta Kappa chapter on January 16th and I'm hoping PDK members from around the world might send words of wisdom, especially in terms of BBSing to me in preparation for the presentation.

Yes, Spokane is a hop, skip, and a jump from Missoula.  My wife and I will pass through there this Saturday (just the airport) enroute from Seattle to MT.  Usually on the homewrd journey our minds are numb after the long flight, but sometime either in our summer wanderings we're bound to pass by.  It would be a delight to meet someone who I've only been communicating with via e-mail.


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From: Sharon.Napshin@p0.f126.n137.z1.fidonet.org (Sharon Napshin)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Keyboarding Software
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 21:54:58 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:137/126.0 - Global Vision, Sarasota FL

I am a Media Specialist and remember a program that was used on the IBM 
PCjrs several years ago.  It was called MICROTYPE or MICROPAWS.  I'm not 
sure who put it out and can't get to the information now, but you may 
want to try the title on a local ed software dealer.  Good luck!



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From: Jack.Dale@p0.f49.n134.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Dale)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Concern about K12
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:59:58 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:134/49.0 - The Student Exchang, Calgary Alta

 -=> Quoting Mike Connealy to Robin Bain <=-

 MC> I suspect that the pen-pal idea may be one of the weaker 
 MC> approaches to stimulating an interest in computer communications.  

 MC> So, on the one hand, I think we have to look for more imaginative 
 MC> ways to present the concept of telecommunications and , on the 
 MC> other, we need to accept that there are real limitations on what can 
 MC> be done within the school environment.  I doubt that your kids have 
 MC> been turned off for life about e-mail; they know what it is about 
 MC> thanks to your efforts and they'll make use of it when they find a 
 MC> real need for it.

I would like to add to this discussion.

I have been involved to two highly interactive, and successful, 
telecommunications projects.  One used FIDONet nodes here in Calgary;
There other used Datapac lines.  Both were simulations.  

In one my students role-played the part of Singapore in a Pacific Rim 
conference negotiating agreements on human rights, global warming and 
economic cooperation.  This simulation involved students in Toronto, 
Calgary, Winnipeg and Syracuse.  They were connected through a mainframe
at the University of Maryland.  UMD provided the the coordination for the 
project.  This was very successful and very expensive.  But it did allow
for real-time conferencing.

The second project was a federal-provincial conference among four classes in
Calgary.  We role-played the governments of Canada.  I moderated this 
conference.  This was run as a simulation-game.  We used 3 FIDONet nodes
here in town.  This simulation was free and also successful.  The only
problem was that real-time conferencing was not possible.

From these projects I learned some valuable lessons:

1) The project must be goal oriented.

2) The project requires very careful planning on the part of the teachers
and preparation on the part of the students.

3) The conference must be moderated to ensure that everyone stays on task.

4) The project should be integrated into the curriculum of core subjects.

5) The project requires some follow-up activities.

Perhaps the reason that pen-pal projects seem less than successful can
be linked to the reasons that the simulations were successful.  I have
seen other successful projects on K12.  They tend to have similar
characteristics.

Any comments, especially from those who have run successful pen-pal 
projects? 

Jack

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From: Soozi.Miller@f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Soozi Miller)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Mainstreaming/Inclusion Booklet
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 19:21:13 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

NEA Report on Best Practices for Inclusion of Special Needs
Students, NOW AVAILABLE!

     The National Education Association (NEA) has collected
recommendations from researchers, state and federal policy makers,
and from within its own ranks to produce proposed guidelines for
integrating students with special needs into the regular classroom.
     The 77-page report is called "Integration of Students with
Special Needs into Regular Classrooms: Policies and Practices That
Work."  This report is currently available for just the phone call
to NEA:  for more info contact Jeffrey Schneider, Senior Policy
Analyst and Program Consultant, National Education Association,
1201 16th St. N.W., Washington DC, 20036-3290; 1-202-822-7378.


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From: Chris.Rowan@f83.n3820.z1.fidonet.org (Chris Rowan)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Int'l Student Space Simulation
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 23:07:59 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3820/83 - Morningside K12 BBS, Brownsville TX

Hi everyone,

Has anyone heard about the International Student Space Simulation project created by Jerry Bernhardt in Conroe, Texas?  We at Morningside Elementary are going to participate in this year's Space Simulation and would like to establish contacts with other I.S.S.S. participants.
        
I'm not certain, but I _think_ we are the only elementary school in our area that is participating.  We will conduct a Saturday Academy that consists of 8 consecutive all-day Saturday sessions.  Initially, the students will be taken on a field trip to Space Center Houston to learn about space flight and the history of NASA.  The following Saturday and each Saturday thereafter, students will be placed in cooperative groups of four to engage in many hands-on, minds-on space-related activities.
        
We will build a Space Simulator Habitat in which four student astronauts will live and conduct experiments.  Communication between the habitat and Mission Control will be accomplished through the use of modem-equipped computers and video cameras.
        
Since this is Morningside's first "launch" of a simulator, we would sincerely appreciate any tips or guidelines you can offer that would contribute to the success of our mission.
        
                                                Best regards,
                                                Chris


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From: Shellye.Lindsay@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Shellye Lindsay)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: Concern about K12
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:38:30 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

SL>> I think I think, therefore I think I am.  I think.
This sounds vaguely familiar...like a Core 250 class from Whitworth College??

SL>>Driven by curricular demands, they may well turn to other things
SL>>and fail to see this form of communication as "life skill"
sort of like becoming a "whole person" in technological sense?
The defition of life skill and whole person in this  age changes...so 
what do we call those left behind?? black holes??

Shellye Lindsay--music specialist--Mead School District(Spokane,Wa)


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From: Elizabeth.Probert@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Elizabeth Probert)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: use of k12
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 20:21:04 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

Linus, I hope to make contact with you in 1993 when we have our modem installed. Please see my message to Robin Bain #116. I would like to start small so that the students get satisfaction fairly fast so thought of corresponding within NZ to start with. I run the library hence using St librarians but I could use some third formers (or any other level.) 
I will only have a very small space in the library workroom so numbers of those taking part have to be limited,.even so with some success I think this will catch on.
Have an excellent summer
Liz from Pakuranga College


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From: John.Elliott@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (John Elliott)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: ASSERTIVE DISCIPLINE IN USE
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 16:23:48 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Hi. Each semester I have my student teachers do a presentation on the 
Canters.  Could you give me some ordering (title, publisher, etc) info? Was 
your one reference a computer programme?

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From: Phil.Spooner@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Phil Spooner)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Missed Last Message!
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 10:16:51 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

Hi Ann!
 
You're right, I missed the last one. My apologies.  I don't have any 
software that automatically files stuff yet.  I hope to have some 
organized way to receive and send our accumulating E-mail by the start 
of the New Year.  Thanks for giving me another chance.
 
I have a third and fourth grade class in mind to send messages after 
the holidays.  With 6th grade writing projects and a 5th grade class 
sending messages all over the United States for some state reports, 
it has been really tough organizing some key pals for your group. 
 I will try before the end of Jan.  You can save them for your students 

in Feb.
 
We received your package.  Thanks so much!  The calendar is a great 
idea.  You could do some wonderful fund raising with that.  Was that 
the reason youfolks put it together?  I especially liked all the photos 
of the students on the calendar's centerfold!  I'm quite envious of 
the amount of publishing and book making you're able to do with your 
students.  I'll be sending off a package soon with some tid bits, 
including photos and a video (if I ever finish it!)  The video is 
of our community.  I'm going to let some fourth graders make a video 
about the school after the New Year.  I'll try and share that with 
you too!
 
Your excursions into the outdoors looked like a blast!  Is that a 
standard part of your teaching year?  We have an "Outdoor School" 
week that is taught to 6th graders (11-year-olds) each yearin the 
spring.  They trod off to a camp in the hills southwest of Gaston.
 
The petroglyths were created by the Chapokele band of the Atfalati, 
or Tualatin Indians.  They lived in Patton Valley until about the 
1850s when white settlement brought disease and eventually forced 
them onto a reservation south of here.  There are no surviving Tualatins 
to my knowledge.
 
The pictographs are one of three sets in the Willamette Basin.  Little 
is known of their origin.  They were apprently carved into the sandstone 
with sharp objects including the possibility of using antlers from 
an elk to make the eyes of the stick figures.  I have some photos 
that I will send to you.
 
There is little published about the Tualatin Indians, and there is 
nothing for younger students.  Seems like a crime to me that all this 
heritage should be ignored when we ask our students only to study 
the more popular Midwest Indian tribes.
 
Enough of my preaching.  I hope you and all your students have a 
wonderful holiday season, and a restful break from school!
 
peace,
--Phil



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