HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: alt.fishing

Thanks to all that took the time to either post here or email me.
Maybe I'm just trying too hard to join electronics and fishing 
hobbies. Yup, I am going to try to get the schematic/service
manual for whatever she might get me. It may be "modifiable",    
heh, heh....

Here is some data I've encountered while looking for a fishfinder.
The table is from a SKIPPER catalog. I didn't do the math and I  
haven't checked it. Surely, if something is incorrect, SOMEBODY
will inform me and the whole world of any mistakes! Magic fingers  
here spaced the table apart enough so you can cut out your column
and stick it on your pinger. Then you won't be casting out 30'
beyond the fish.

From Dan (whose IBM addr bounces in my HP computer, understandable
I guess :-) ) and others, it seems that there are: the <$500.00 LCD,
the $5-1k CRT, the $1k-3k CRT and paper chart, and the stuff WE buy
for the Navy subs.

After you discard the most expensive and cheapest in the range, you decide
which real features, not advertising hype, you want and go from there.

The cone angle and normal depths that you usually fish seem to be at
least as important as the pixel count to me. A hit on a target is
just that, a hit. You can't tell much about its real size unless
you spent some BIG bucks. For now, I'll settle for being able to
see little fishes swimming across the display five feet from my face.
When I get the 70' boat, then I'll get the super pinger and go play
games with the subs. ;-) 

Hope the chart regeneration below helps some of ya.


DEPTH               TRANSDUCER CONE ANGLE in DEGREES     
  in
 FEET       8     11     16     20     32     43     50     60
 ----     ----   ----   ----   ----   ----   ----   ----   ----
   10      1.4    1.7    2.8    3.3    5.7    7.9    8.7   10.0
   15      2.0    2.5    4.2    5.0    8.6   11.8   13.0   15.0
   20      2.8    3.3    5.6    6.3   11.5   15.8   17.3   20.0
   30      4.2    5.0    8.4   10.0   17.2   23.6   26.0   30.0
   40      5.6    6.7   11.2   13.3   22.9   31.5   34.7   40.0
   50      6.7    8.3   14.0   16.7   28.7   39.4   43.3   50.0
   60      8.4   10.0   16.9   20.0   34.4   47.3   52.0   60.0
   70      9.8   11.7   19.7   23.3   40.1   55.1   60.7   70.0
   80     11.1   13.3   22.5   26.7   45.9   63.0   69.3   80.0
   90     12.6   15.0   25.3   30.0   51.6   70.9   78.0   90.0
  100     14.0   16.7   28.1   35.0   57.4   78.8   86.7  100.0
  150     21.0   25.0   42.0   53.0   85.8  113.0  130.0  150.0
  200     28.0   33.3   56.2   71.0  114.7  157.6  173.3  200.0


Ping..........Ping..........Ping..........Ping..BOING!!!  Uh-oh???


Any questions? Maybe I've already found the answers.
Any more suggestions or enlightenment?

Bill
From: s31759m@taltta.hut.fi (Harri Ilmari Huuskonen)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: SONAR, was: Fish-finders.
Date: 18 Dec 1992 18:47:27 GMT
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: taltta.hut.fi

Couldn't agree more with you, Pat !!!

The only thing I think different, though is that I
do "love to just sit there, using the stealth approach..:", occasionally.

<- if I get to a lake, or any place, I only have a small rowing-boat
   and the rod and some worms... this is exactly what I do...
   I love to fish and would do it even a hook wouldn't been invented :-)


*  Harri Huuskonen   Email:  hhuuskon@otax.tky.hut.fi                  *
*  A member of POKA (Finnish Univ. of Technology Angling Association)  *
*     ...111 days of fishing during 1992 and still counting...         *
From: kleng@terapin.com (Keith Leung)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: sf
Date: 12 Dec 92 00:10:10 PST
Organization: BBS

 /a
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: an2424@anon.penet.fi
Subject: re: Your legs are green!
X-Anonymously-To: alt.fashion
Organization: Anonymous contact service
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 16:58:00 GMT

X-Anon-To: alt.fashion


In a message dated 7 Dec 92, an1742@anon.penet.fi writes:

>      The "latest thing" (at least around here) seems to be
> wearing shorts or a short skirt and black pantyhose.

I'm 26 and I've always worn short shorts and skirts with pantyhose
regardless of what was the "in" fashion at the time.  While
miniskirts and pantyhose are old hat, I have noticed that wearing
pantyhose with shorts is only recently gaining popularity (here in
the USA and Canada, at least).  The trend seems to have started
when numerous famous fashion designers came out with "skorts" that
were so short they really were shorts.  This is all in the last
couple of years.

>      What is really amazing is that only a few years ago the only
> place you saw this was T.V. hookers.  Then about three years ago,
> they appeared out of nowhere.  The first time I remember seeing
> it done, the woman in question was promptly accused of
> turning into a Smurf by the other women in the class (she picked
> blue pantyhose).

Yes, I've noticed this too.  For instance, I frequently wear shorts
with sheer black pantyhose.  Five years ago, this was unusual,
and many of my friends thought I'd lost my marbles.  Now I see more
and more of my friends wearing pantyhose with shorts, and I also
don't get as many strange stares in public.  So I guess it must be
catching on.

>      Being a science type, I have to wonder why the sudden rise
> in the popularity in this outfit, especially given its past
> negative implications.

I think it is yet another case of previously "daring" fashions
becoming more respectable as more women start wearing them.  I now
have quite a collection of tweed, wool and polyster "business" shorts
which I wear at the office with pantyhose.  Most of them are quite
short but they no longer cause a stir since the style is catching on.

As for different colors and styles of pantyhose, I can't say I have
any green ones!  I general stick to black, white, or beige and they
are usually a spandex kind, and they are always sheer.  I rarely
wear opaque tights.

It could also be a "revenge of the 60's" baby boomer thing, so many
of the old styles from the 60's and 70's are coming back.  I see now
body suits touted as the latest fashion "essential".  A couple years
ago you had to go to an obsucre lingerie shop to find body stockings.
Now you can get them in department stores.  Times are a'changin'.

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From: dmiller@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Dick and Jill Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Re:Designers' Names (was Re: GREEN LEGS)
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:45:43 GMT
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT

>BTW, since we're on the general topic of stockings:  What do you all think 
>of the Absolut Vodka stockings in December's _Mirabella_?  (For those who 
>haven't seen them, it's Absolut's new ad, which consists of a real pair of 
>stockings with the words "Absolut Vodka" on them in a crossword puzzle 
>design.) I have some, but haven't worn them yet.  Still trying to decide if 
>they're cute or a shameless, tacky marketing plug.  What do you think?  
>Would you actually wear these?
>
>Thanks,
>Annie

Well, I don't like to wear anyone's name on my bod.  It can be interpreted 
that you're too insecure to do your own fashion thing and so you have to 
take on the aura of the designer. ("I can afford to wear stuff by this 
incredibly expensive designer"?)

That said, it may be just the right color and fit, etc...  Rules are meant 
to be broken. ;')

But under normal circumstances I prefer plain, unsigned clothing, tho. 
Thank you.

--Jill

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From: wales@ringss.enet.dec.com (David Wales)
Subject: Re: spray-ons?
Keywords: spray ons
Reply-To: wales@ringss.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. Sydney Australia.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 23:45:39 GMT


In article <1992Dec14.200823.12387@infodev.cam.ac.uk>,
kme10@cl.cam.ac.uk (K.M. Ewald) writes:

>recently when I was wearing a pair of lycra leggings, someone asked me 
>whether they were spray-ons. I doubt he was serious, but in any case 
>that got me interested.
>
>I don't think I've ever seen spray-ons at all - I gather from the word
>that you make them yourself from some special purpose spray.
>But
>- what kind of material are they? They would have to be elastic I
>  suppose?
>- how is it applied? How do you prepare the skin (apply lotion, cover
>  in saran wrap)? What about body hair?
>- What colours are available? How opaque is the resulting material?
>- How durable are they? Are they just wear-once or can they be washed?
>and finally
>- where do you get that spray?

	The term spray on is more metaphorical than real.  Basically if someone
is wearing leggings/tights/jeans that fit so tight it would seem that the only
way that they would get them on would be to 'spray' them on when in fact they
have just put them on as any other pair of pants.

	It does raise an intersting concept though.  There is no real reason
why real spray-on attire could not be worn.  Using normal paint etc would be
otu of the question due to likely toxic effects but maybe theatrical makeup
paint could be sprayed on to a person to look like clothing.  This should be
fine for a short term as the skin generally cannot breathe through that type of
stuff.

David.

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Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: rissa@world.std.com (Patricia O Tuama)
Subject: Re: GREEN LEGS
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 06:22:55 GMT

In article <1gbj1aINNnl1@agate.berkeley.edu> annie@garnet.berkeley.edu (Anne Jessop) writes:
>BTW, since we're on the general topic of stockings:  What do you all think
>of the Absolut Vodka stockings in December's _Mirabella_?  
>I have some, but haven't worn them yet.  Still trying to decide if they're
>cute or a shameless, tacky marketing plug.  What do you think?  Would you
>actually wear these?

I think they're a cute, shameless, tacky marketing plug that
won't catch on, ie, people won't wear them.  Personally, I'd 
rather they had given us another one of those cards that plays 
Christmas carols like they did in 1988.
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
From: kme10@cl.cam.ac.uk (K.M. Ewald)
Subject: spray-ons?
Keywords: spray ons
Reply-To: KME10@phx.cam.ac.uk
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:08:23 GMT

Hello,

(sorry about the cross-posting - I just thought I might reach a larger
 audience in alt.sex.)

recently when I was wearing a pair of lycra leggings, someone asked me 
whether they were spray-ons. I doubt he was serious, but in any case 
that got me interested.

I don't think I've ever seen spray-ons at all - I gather from the word
that you make them yourself from some special purpose spray.
But
- what kind of material are they? They would have to be elastic I
  suppose?
- how is it applied? How do you prepare the skin (apply lotion, cover
  in saran wrap)? What about body hair?
- What colours are available? How opaque is the resulting material?
- How durable are they? Are they just wear-once or can they be washed?
and finally
- where do you get that spray?

...just curious!

Sorry, I'm completely clueless about this - but as they say, ask or
you won't learn anything!
(Also I'm not a native English speaker so sorry about typos!)
--
Karl Ewald - 3rd year CompSci undergraduate - kme10@phx.cam.ac.uk 
Newsgroups: alt.fashion,alt.sex
From: wc8754@writer.yorku.ca (John Slonimsky)
Subject: Re: spray-ons?
Keywords: spray ons
Organization: Computer Assisted Writing Centre, York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:11:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.234539.760@funlwb.enet.dec.com> wales@ringss.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>In article <1992Dec14.200823.12387@infodev.cam.ac.uk>,
kme10@cl.cam.ac.uk (K.M. Ewald) asks about spray on clothing.writes:
>
Wales@rings replies...

>	The term spray on is more metaphorical than real.  Basically if someone
>is wearing leggings/tights/jeans that fit so tight it would seem that the only
>way that they would get them on would be to 'spray' them on when in fact they
>have just put them on as any other pair of pants.
>	It does raise an intersting concept though.  There is no real reason
>why real spray-on attire could not be worn.  Using normal paint etc would be
>otu of the question due to likely toxic effects but maybe theatrical makeup
>paint could be sprayed on to a person to look like clothing.  This should be
>fine for a short term as the skin generally cannot breathe through
that type of stuff.
>|David Wales (VK2KWD) Sydney, Australia |Internet: wales@ringss.enet.dec.

Well, i don't know if you get Vanity Fair magazine in England or in
Australia, but a while back one of the issues showed Demi Moore naked,
but for a painted-on suit.  i think that is as close to 'spray on' as
you can get.  I am pretty sure that they used body paint for the
purpose, and I must tell you, the effect was stunning.  When i first
looked at the cover i didn't even notice she was naked, it just looked
as though she had on a really, really, REALLY tight fitting suite.
Only upon closer inspection was i able to tell that she actually
was not _wearing_ anything at all.

my .02 cents worth.
From: annie@garnet.berkeley.edu (Anne Jessop)
Newsgroups: alt.fashion
Subject: Re: GREEN LEGS
Date: 12 Dec 1992 02:33:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu
Originator: annie@garnet.berkeley.edu


Let me be the umpteenth person to assert here that "ordinary" nylons (ahw
my grandmother (and mother, before she converted) called "pantyhose" are
U-G-L-Y!!!!! If I'm gonna go for that "suntanned barelegged look", I'll
damn well go bare legged!  By the way, here's _my_ recommendation for the
best opaque stockings: DKNY silky opaques (or some such).  They're way
better than cotton tights because they are nice and smooth and don't have
that yukky cotton-tight texture, kind of knobbly and rough and thicker in
some places than others.  Maybe it's the quality of cottons I used to buy.
 But the DKNY's are great.  They also withstand my bunny, who likes to
come over and try to climb up my leg (usually when I'm wearing something
she'll ruin that way...) She has yet to snag a pair of these stockings.

BTW, since we're on the general topic of stockings:  What do you all think
of the Absolut Vodka stockings in December's _Mirabella_?  (For those who
haven't seen them, it's Absolut's new ad, which consists of a real pair of
stockings with the words "Absolut Vodka" on them in a crossword puzzle
design.)
I have some, but haven't worn them yet.  Still trying to decide if they're
cute or a shameless, tacky marketing plug.  What do you think?  Would you
actually wear these?

Thanks,
Annie
From: ak331@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jerry A. Jelinek)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Twelve days of Bowling
Date: 19 Dec 1992 21:26:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


       The Twelve Days of Christmas (thru the eyes of a bowling fan)
            .........sung to the song of the same name
 
On the first day of Christmas my true love sent to me,
a Pro Rhino in a new bag.
 
On the second day of Christmas my true love sent to me,
two Dexter shoes, and a Pro Rhino in a new bag.
 
On the third day of Christmas my true love sent to me,
three pro-am entries, two Dexter shoes, and a Pro Rhino in a new bag.
 
On the fourth day of Christmas my true love sent to me,
four perfect teammates, three pro-am entries, two Dexter shoes, 
and a Pro Rhino in a new bag.
 
On the fifth day of Christmas my true love sent to me,
five PBA victories!, four perfect teammates, three pro-am entries, 
two Dexter shoes, and a Pro Rhino in a new bag.
 
On the sixth day of Christmas my true love sent to me,
six tenpins falling, five PBA victories!, four perfect teammates, 
three pro-am entries, two Dexter shoes, and a Pro Rhino in a new bag.
 
On the seventh day of Christmas my true love sent to me,
seven Roth's a crank'n, six tenpins falling, five PBA victories!, 
four perfect teammates, three pro-am entries, two Dexter shoes, 
and a Pro Rhino in a new bag.
 
On the eighth day of Christmas my true love sent to me,
eight four pins tripping, seven Roth's a crank'n, six tenpins falling, 
five PBA victories!, four perfect teammates, three pro-am entries, 
two Dexter shoes, and a Pro Rhino in a new bag.
 
On the ninth day of Christmas my true love sent to me,
nine jackpot winnings, eight four pins tripping, seven Roth's a crank'n, 
six tenpins falling, five PBA victories!, four perfect teammates, 
three pro-am entries, two Dexter shoes, and a Pro Rhino in a new bag.
 
On the tenth day of Christmas my true love sent to me,
ten Earl's a strike'n, nine jackpot winnings, eight four pins tripping, 
seven Roth's a crank'n, six tenpins falling, five PBA victories!, 
four perfect teammates, three pro-am entries, two Dexter shoes, 
and a Pro Rhino in a new bag.
 
On the eleventh day of Christmas my true love sent to me,
eleven brand new hammers, ten Earl's a strike'n, nine jackpot winnings, 
eight four pins tripping, seven Roth's a crank'n, six tenpins falling, 
five PBA victories!, four perfect teammates, three pro-am entries, 
 
On the twelvth day of Christmas my true love sent to me,
twelve perfect strikes, eleven brand new hammers, ten Earl's a strike'n, 
nine jackpot winnings, eight four pins tripping, seven Roth's a crank'n, 
six tenpins falling, five PBA victories!, four perfect teammates, 
three pro-am entries, two Dexter shoes, and a Pro Rhino in a new bag.
 
 
Have a happy and joyous Holiday Season......
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: L621035@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Ooohhh!  Pretty! (was PH X vs. Dry backs)
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:54:03 GMT

***************************************************************************
"Hey, Aki!  How's it goin?  Hey I got a quick question to ask you.  What
do you think of the Purple RhinoPro?"
"Well...it's a real consistant ball, especially if you keep it polished
up.
I wouldn't put much positive weight on it though because...."
"NO NO NO...I mean what do you think of it's COLOR?  Pretty cool huh?
Think I'll get one with GREEN inserts!"
***********************************************************************
-Aki
***********************************************************************
  What's your point?  Why else would someone buy a ball?  If it doesn't
match your bowling shoes, then how can you bowl good????  :-)))
Ms.Fitts
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 09:34:54 EST
From: Mark K. Miller <MAX@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: Which Hall? Fame or Shame?
Distribution: alt

In article <MGG.92Dec18002105@corgie.ece.cmu.edu>, mgg@ece.cmu.cmu.edu (Martin
Greenberg) says:
>
>certain Hall of Fame material, but I still don't feel right about it.
>
>Here's the line:
>
>    0/  X   X   X   X   X   X   X   X  9-
>    20  50  80 110 140 170 200 229 248 257
>
>Yes, that's right. First ball in the channel. Convert the spare. 8 in
>a row (personal best). Hit light, leave the 7, and miss it.

So you had a few flaws and you didn't throw a perfect 300, big deal!  You
wouldn't want to deal with the medical complications anyway.  You've
included the key words: "personal best."  Was that your most strikes in a
row and/or is this really your high game?  If this is not your high game,
some might send you to the hall of shame; not me!  Congratulations!!!

>PS The other two games were 178 and 205. I believe it is my first
>   sanctioned 600 series (640).

We know which hall to send this to; congratulations again!
From: uunet!theory.pppl.gov!kvoss (Keith Voss)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: dry vs. oily lanes
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 15:07:24 EST

Well, I've finally got my average above 160 and I now need the aid of the
collective knowledge of the net...

If I hit the pocket well with one ball on oily conditions, what should I do
when I face a dry lane? Do I keep the same ball and drastically adjust my
shot, or should I get another ball for those days? 

And what about my wrist brace? Is it too much of a crutch? I have a high
backswing and it seems to help at the top of the swing right now.

I eagerly await your answers...

Keith
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: Turbo X Prices
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A757ECF3C3022631@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
X-Xxdate: Fri, 18 Dec 92 02:02:43 GMT
Organization: The World Bank
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 02:05:15 GMT

In article <1992Dec19.000309.8365@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> Mark Fujimoto,
c9a-az@po.berkeley.edu writes:
>Hmmm...I heard that the new Ebonite Crush and Crush-R are supposed 
>to be the new high-end balls, replacing the Nitro line.  I'd guess 
>that these might be in that price range.
>

hmmm..no news on these two new balls...heard anything about them
yet?  All I got was junk mail on them..no real "meat" (so what 	ELSE
is new?). 



-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
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"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
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From: MAX@psuvm.psu.edu (Mark K. Miller)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: A Perfect Game, Not So Perfect Ending ...
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:20:41 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Dec17.202308.28560@europa.asd.contel.com>,
ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley) says:
>
>When I saw this in today's paper, I had to post for the benefit of the
>group.
>
>
>SOURCE: The Washington Post, 17 December 1992 (Sports Section)
>        Bob Bittner bowled for 31 years before rolling his first perfect
>        game.  Within minutes, he suffered a heart attack and died.

The same story was pointed out to me in our local paper on Thursday
afternoon.  Upon arriving to bowl Thursday night, I told two buddies
about it.  I had also told these two guys about the 11 strikes and heart
attack story reported here several weeks ago.  Each of these two friends
had recently thrown the first 9.

A little later last night, the father of one of these guys threw a 300 (not
his first one) for his third game.  Last I heard, Dan Diebert was still
alive!

P.S.  During the course of that 300 game I gave Dan money for a ball I'm
buying from him.  Hmmm... I think that has to be a real *GOOD* thaaang.
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