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From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: CBM Discusses Future Amigas
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:02:52 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <1992Sep14.104106.784@nntp.hut.fi>, jpelkone@vipunen.hut.fi (Janne R M Pelkonen) writes:
> In article <1992Sep14.180411.90091@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>>
>>        I have only 1 thing to say re: Amiga + RISC.
>>
>>        Please, please, please, please, please, please, ALPHA!
>>        (although MC88x00 is the more obvious option).
>
>       Alpha is a bit expensive, atleast currently. It costs more
>       than $10,000 even in large quantities.

        The University where I work as a Computer Operator is (I am
told) the largest *educational* VAX site in the Southern Hemisphere.
The price I heard for *evaluation* copies of Alpha was nowhere near
$10K each. Approx $3K was the price I heard.


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From: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com (Ed Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Here are the 4000 specs.. from C=
Date: 13 Sep 92 07:20:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Sep13.002031.647
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 > Gee, how many of these are we going to have clogg our news feeds?
 > Enough already, we've seen at least 4 or 5 already.


Considering the incredible amount of pure BULLS**T that already clogs the
net, these few items that really DO pertain to the Amiga in general and the
newest Amiga in particular are most welcome news to many of us.  Yes, there
is some overlap but most of the messages seem to convey a few different
facts.  If the strain is too much, can I suggest that setting up a KILL
file for anything containing the term "A4000" could be used to eliminate
posts in which you have no interest.

Regards,



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From: slbfn@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Problem with No New Copper in A4000
Date: 15 Sep 92 02:57:52 MDT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Sep15.023838.16397@news.iastate.edu>, barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
> 
>    There is one thing about the AGA chipset that I've forgotten to mention. 
> This is the drawbacks to the lack of improvements to the copper.  In the
> ECS, the copper requires 2 scanlines to update the palette registers between
> pull-down screens.  The AGA Lisa chip now has many more palette registers,
> but the copper has not been updates accordingly.  The result is bigger
> blank space between pull-down screens on the AGA chipset.  A total of 11
> scanlines of space, in fact.  Thus, you can write off enhanced equivelents
> to the Dynamic HiRes or SHAM modes for the AGA chipset.
> 
> ---
> | Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
> --------------------------------------------------

 Tell me, why the hell would you need Dynamic modes when you have HAM8 in
 all resolutions?

 Sure, HAM results in artifacts, but at higher resolutions these would be
 almost undetectable.

 Greetings,

	Travis Carter
	slbfn@cc.usu.edu
From: pk-asdg@cup.portal.com (Perry S Kivolowitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: AADPro
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 19:46:49 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world


David Corn says:

>Details!  Details!  What does ADPRO give with an A4000 machine?  What
>modes does an A4000 HAVE when used with ADPRO?  

Well, Super Hi Res and VGA rendering modes auotmatically show up as
possible screen configurations. And when you select more than 32
colors for rendering (64, 128, 256), these are displayed in the
requested screen mode. Also, HAM8 renders directly to the screen
even in super hi res giving results so close to 24 bit, very few people
will be able to tell the difference.

And, things like FRED show their iconified views in 256 colors, instead
of 16, etc.

pk
From: Sam_-_Malone@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Imagine mailing list
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 20:05:51 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Paul Griswold writes:
>For some reason I was dropped off the Imagine mailing list.Can someone pleas
>tell me who to write to so that I can be put back on it?  

Sorry Paul. I dropped the account since all mail to Miami started
bouncing for days after the hurricane. I will put you back on the
List immediately. Glad to see you are still up and running.  :-)

For anyone else interested in the Imagine Mailing List,
as Don Hirschfeld says, it is indeed alive and well.

To receive it, free, steaming hot and fresh in your mailbox,
write to:

Imagine-request@email.sp.unisys.com

and in your subject line, have the word "subscribe". If you are
interested in the Imagine Mailing List Contest and don't happen
to have the full file that was posted here a week or so ago,
mention to me in the subscription request that you'd like a 
copy of the Contest file. I will be happy to send one along.

Dave Wickard  (612) 456-2783   FAMOUS LAST WORDS:
dave@flip.sp.unisys.com        "Hey, the sushi sounds good!"
Sam_Malone@cup.portal.com      -President George Bush
From: tope@enea.se (Tommy Petersson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: Problem with No New Copper in A4000
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:04:24 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
-    There is one thing about the AGA chipset that I've forgotten to mention. 
- This is the drawbacks to the lack of improvements to the copper.  In the
- ECS, the copper requires 2 scanlines to update the palette registers between
- pull-down screens.  The AGA Lisa chip now has many more palette registers,
- but the copper has not been updates accordingly.  The result is bigger
- blank space between pull-down screens on the AGA chipset.  A total of 11
- scanlines of space, in fact.  Thus, you can write off enhanced equivelents
- to the Dynamic HiRes or SHAM modes for the AGA chipset.
- 
- ---
- | Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
- --------------------------------------------------

I'll bet that not many are crying for not having Dynamic HiRes or SHAM on
their 4000's. The HAM8 mode is NOT restricted to 100x200 resolution :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: gunnbr@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Brian R Gunn)
Subject: Re: Viewing Non-Standard JPG's
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:29:36 GMT


In article <9209082318.AA01736@curly.cs.uwlax.edu> manhart@CS.UWLAX.EDU  
(Greg Manhart) writes:
> Hello!
> Does anyone know of a program to convert the non-standard jpeg created  
by 
> Image Alchemy for the i*m, to a format I can view.  I have tried rend24  
and
> djpeg but can get neither to work.
> Thanks

Try HamLab Plus (on amiga.physik.unizh.ch)  It converts jpegs that other  
programs say are faulty...

Brian
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From: bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: No AGA for current users!?! *Excuse Me?*
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:37:03 +1000
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <Holt-140992195441@128.95.214.231>, Holt@cheme.washington.edu (Brad Holt) writes:
> In article <1628@lysator.liu.se>, boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg)
>> bdnee@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Bandes Dessinee) writes:

[Complaints about current Amigas not being able to use the AA chips deleted]


>>   Commodore has been much better than most other computer manufacturers
>> in this respect. Just look at the Mac for instance - none of the early
>> models are upgradable to a Quadra.
>>
>
>    Not true.  The Mac IIcx is upgradable to the Mac IIci which is
> upgradable
> to the Quadra 700.

        Upgrading a factory shipped IIci to the equivelent a Quadra, and
upgrading a factory shipped IIcx to the equivelent of a IIci, then upgrading
that to the equivelent of a Quadra are *NOT* the same things.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Animated GIFS
From: cwhi2@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Craig Dean          Whitmore       )
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:31:48 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept. University of Auckland

I have a number of animated gifs which i show on the macintosh but i want to
know if it is possible to see these on the amiga with ADPro or any other
program and if there is a program with i can use to make these animated GIFS
on any machine (MAC,AMIGA,IBM etc).  Any help would be greatfull.

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From: david@ariane.uucp (David Lebel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: latest HAMLAB demo ?
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:46:21 GMT
Organization: SilverBox Development Group
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn 1.16c (6/22/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <20096@plains.NoDak.edu> kruger@plains.NoDak.edu (Donovan Kruger) writes:
>Where and What is the latest release of HAMLAB demo?

   You can probably get HAMLAB from 130.60.80.80 (in Zurich) with FTP.

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From: bdnee@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Bandes Dessinee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: No AGA for current users!?! *Excuse Me?*
Date: 13 Sep 92 19:53:48 GMT
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science

You know, I love my amigas, particularly my a3000, but Commodore's REALLY starting to piss me off here.  
This AGA chipset incompatibility thing wouldn't piss me off nearly so much if 
they had introduced DIG/RTG/whatever the hell they choose to call it FIRST.
Commodore would be nowhere without the existing userbase, couldn't they have the
decency to look out for us first, before introducing something that makes our
machines obsolete?
I have faith that some brilliant third party developer will find a way to 
incorporate the new chips, I remember people telling me that my a1000 could
never be upgraded, that the 2000 was dead when the 3000 appeared.  And you know,
they were wrong.  This new development just isn't going to get me to buy an 
a4000, unless Commodore offers a REAL upgrade deal, something that isn't going 
to cost me my life savings.  
What I don't understand in all of this is howcome there can't be some sort of
motherboard replacement?  I'm no engineer, so there's probably a very simple
reason that i just don't get, but couldn't it be done?
And with all those slots, you'd think they could mount the chips and a new
bandwidth thingy and make it all work.
And more to the point, there just HAS to be a way they could have developed a 
gizmo that would plug into the RGB port like a DCTV, HAME, Colorburst, Opalvision?
That would have served the same graphics purposes.  I mean let's face it, if
all these different third party people can do it, it can obviously be done.
So much for Gold Service, eh? 
Time to stop buying Commodore products, i think, unless they get their act
together and start treating their userbase decently.
	 			Charley
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: spi@netcom.com (RP2)
Subject: Re: Kodak PhotoCD
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 05:14:45 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <65758@cup.portal.com> DonD@cup.portal.com (Don Robert DeCosta) writes:
>>I heard that they bought the rights to Black Belt Systems HAM-E and not
>>DCTV.  I also heard that they *might* try to incorporate DCTV psudo 24-bit
>>technology into any new versions of the CDTV... rumors, rumors...
>>
>>|Edward E. Brown II               | Internet: eeb@pro-freedom.cts.com  |
>
>I just saw Kodak's PhotoCD and I was very impressed!! DCTV in CDTV is
>mandatory if CBM really expects to get CDTV into this market!
>
>Don DeCosta           |The nice thing about sanity is|  VM/Nomad2
>DonD@cup.portal.com   |you can lose it more than once|  Amiga/Imagine

Ok - I was at the show in Pasadena and this is what one of the Digital
Creations' Techs told me when the conversation turned to CDTV/DCTV...

Commodore and Digital Creations decided it would be best for both
companies if they did their DCTV in CDTV deal this way..........

Digital Creations has a product (right now) that plugs into one of CDTV's
slots - The device is basically DCTV in a very compact plug in card form.
The card is only available for commercial use right now but may be 
available to consumers if enough interest is shown. Or in other words
--- ALL YOU CDTV OWNERS OUT THERE MAKE A RUCKUS AND MAYBE YOU'LL 
--- BE ABLE TO HAVE A MUTIMEDIA PLAYER THAT CAN COMPETE W/CDI'S
--- GRAPHICS (although - what I have seen of CDI's nifty looking
---           tv quality graphics were tres slow...)

spi

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: gerald@seas.gwu.edu (Gerald G. Washington)
Subject: Re: 4000
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 04:41:51 GMT

diskount@micromed.com (don hirschfeld) writes:
>Just a slight correction. I have the Diamond Speedstar 24X. There is only 
>a $20 difference between that and the Speedstar. I wouldn't use the term 
>high end inplying more expensive. Anyway, it displays 16.7 million colors 
>only at 640x480. At 800x600, it displays 32k colors. Still the best card 
>for the money. I use it to display my Imagine renderings in 24bit at 
>640x480. The stock Amiga can't do that!

The AGA chips do provide 800x600 with 256K colors.  This is in a stock
A4000 before adding any graphics card.

-- Gerald
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: boberg@lysator.liu.se (Stefan Boberg)
Subject: Re: No AGA for current users!?! *Excuse Me?*
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:09:34 GMT

bdnee@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Bandes Dessinee) writes:

>This AGA chipset incompatibility thing wouldn't piss me off nearly so much if 
>they had introduced DIG/RTG/whatever the hell they choose to call it FIRST.
>Commodore would be nowhere without the existing userbase, couldn't they have 
>the decency to look out for us first, before introducing something that 
>makes our machines obsolete?

  Obsolete, adj. : no longer used ; out of date ; old-fashioned

  Has Commodore's release of the A4000 in some way affected your A3000 so
that you can no longer use it? How is your A3000 different today from what
it was four days ago (when no A4000 officially existed)? You can still use
it, but if you want better graphics you have to buy a new computer. So
what? If a car manufacturer brings out a new model with a better engine
you have to sell your current car and buy a new one - do you get pissed
off at the manufacturer? Probably not.

  Commodore has been much better than most other computer manufacturers
in this respect. Just look at the Mac for instance - none of the early
models are upgradable to a Quadra.

>I have faith that some brilliant third party developer will find a way to 
>incorporate the new chips, I remember people telling me that my a1000 could
>never be upgraded, that the 2000 was dead when the 3000 appeared. And you 
>know, they were wrong.  This new development just isn't going to get me to 
>buy an a4000, unless Commodore offers a REAL upgrade deal, something that 
>isn't going to cost me my life savings.

  Don't count on it. The difference between A3000 <-> A4000 is so much
bigger than A1000<->A2000 or A3000<->A2000, the A3000 was basically an
A2000 with 68030, flickerfixer and built-in HD interface. The A2000 was
only an A1000 with Zorro II slots. The A4000 has an entirely new graphics
chipset that cannot be used in old machines. You would need an entirely
new motherboard, and then you could just as well buy an A4000.
  
>Time to stop buying Commodore products, i think, unless they get their act
>together and start treating their userbase decently.

  Yeah do that, see CBM go bankrupt, and find that other computer 
manufacturers care even less about existing users. Grow up.
--
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 Author of LhA, ArjA and LhArcA. Co-author of Alien Breed, Project X, Full
  Contact and Miami Chase.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: quandt@mcs213i.cs.umr.edu (Brian Quandt)
Subject: product in development (animation)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 05:14:05 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla


>
> Thought this newsgroup might be able to help me out
>

I am part of a company that is developing software for people
involved in animation, i.e., professional animators (computer based)
and amateurs.  Without saying too much, the product will be a companion 
product to products like (found on the amiga computer) dpaint (anim files)
lightwave, real3d, etc.  Simply put, the pruduct will greatly improve
the problem associated with single frame recording animation to tape.

The product that we are developing has a rough pricing of $1000 US.  Our 
preferred target market is the professional animator, however, at a $1000
it's possible that amateurs may also be interested.

What we need is information about people that we intend to market
to.  Any information would be helpful, especially references to magazines, 
and articles that can back up particular claims.

Here's a brief list of the kind of information we are looking for:
(the purpose of all this is the development of business plan)
	- How big is the market, i.e., how many people do animation?
	- How many are professional and how many amateurs?  Are there
		any other ways to seperate the different markets?
	- What platforms are people using to develop animations? 
		Unix (which hardware, I bet Sun), amiga, PC, etc.
	- What kind of budgets do professional animators have?  
	- What is the total US budget for animators?
	- What can be said of the capital acquisition for animation
		studios?  What is it like?
	- What methods of advertisment are most effective towards
		animators?
	- What magazines are read by animators?  That is where should
		magazine advertisment dollars be spent?
	- What generally could be said about animation studios?  Are
		they grey suit or blue jean type companies? 
	- What resources contains information that can answer many 
		of the above questions?  Any professional research
		firms anyone recommends?
	- How big of problem is it to single frame record animation
		to tape?
	- What file formats should the product be compartible with, in the
		amiga world the follwogin jumps to mind: anim5, iff24.


				Brian Quandt
				quandt@cs.umr.edu
From: amiga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: interlacing the pointer
Date: 8 Sep 92 23:47:49 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

Yes there is it's called LacePointer. I think wuarchive has it.

paul
amiga@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

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From: lionel@cs.city.ac.uk (Lionel Tun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: AADPro
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:24:43 GMT
Organization: City University, London

In article <65769@cup.portal.com> pk-asdg@cup.portal.com (Perry S Kivolowitz) writes:
>Well, I can finally announce that the shipping ADPro (for about a year now)
>has fully supported the AA machines (including the new A4000). We simply
>couldn't tell anyone. 
>
>If you run ADPro 2XX on such a machine, a bunch of new display modes 
>automatically become enabled. 
>
>AA is wonderful. And we at ASDG are glad to have played a small role 
>in bringing it to life (ADPro was used to help debug the chip set). 
>
>pk

Wow! I take my hat off to you guys. I work in an image processing lab
with high end stuff, but at home I use an Amiga. What ADPro can do on
a plain 68000 Amiga is simply astonishing. The built-in upwards
compatability is even more impressive.

--
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Vision Group, City University, London, EC1V 0HB. 071-477 8000 x 3889
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: rknop@cco.caltech.edu (Robert Andrew Knop)
Subject: 24 bit IFF specs
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:51:32 GMT

Can anyone tell me where I might find specs on the 24 bit IFF format?

-Rob Knop
rknop@cco.caltech.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics
From: summ50@cse.unl.edu ()
Subject: Re: Amiga+Toaster used to create "Babylon 5" TV show
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 22:19:02 GMT

flash@vsbbs.UUCP (Christopher Tarnas) writes:

>I think it will be aired on November 27.  Check your local listings as it will be syndicated.  Look's killer to me, I can't wait.  (The Toaster 2.0 demo tape has a brief clip from it.)


Babylon 5 will not air until February 1993...  the Nov. 27 date was an
error from the studio...  For all you GEnie users, there is a topic in
the SFRT on B5 that has been going on for a long time, and one of the 
major posters is none other than the creator/writer/producer of Babylon 5,
so I know that the air date is in February...   :)



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