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From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Joan-Rhymes (was Re: Sean)
Date: 10 Oct 1992 10:21:43 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <1992Oct10.141721.21911@macc.wisc.edu> 
anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
| In article <1992Oct10.131951.9195@tc.cornell.edu>
| shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:
| >In article <1992Oct10.023217.24844@netcom.com>
| >jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
|
| >>I don't know about Jess, but I can't, and typically don't see a need to.
| >>"Pin" vs. "pen" is more problematic. 
|
| >I don't recall, exactly, but might you be from Tennessee?
|
| Kentucky, I thought, but no difference on the point (of the
| pin/pen).

Yes, Jack is from Kentucky.  Even though I've lived in California
since I was 1.5 years old, I picked up some of my parents'
Iowa accent.  Pin/pen is a problem for me.  Rid/red is a *big*
problem for me, but in the other direction.  So if I'm tired and
not paying attention, I'll write with a "pin", but I'll want to
"get red" of something I no longer want to have arou  Is As I've
mentioned before, I am incredibly thankful I don't, as my
parents do, "warsh up" or plan to visit "Warshington".  (By the
way, to bring up a thread from several months ago, my mother is
from Iowa and my father is from Ioway.)

Arne
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: M A D O N N A
Date: 13 Oct 92 15:35:08 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <1992Oct13.140923.29275@spdcc.com>
rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:

>mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:

>>Both Bush and Clinton are *pretending* to be Madonna - or
>>like her.

>At the moment I can't recall something as stupid compressed
>into something less than 80 characters.

Well, I think it's the most nearly correct thing he's ever
said.  You forget that he's illiterate.  What he means is
that Pres and Pres-to-be would like to market themselves to
a gullible public as successfully as Madonna does.  

Content is irrelevant, form is everything.  Though it's a
pitiful fact, Madonna more content than either candidate
does.

However, I will admit that the idea of Bush cavorting around
the debate platform in a cone-tit bustiere *is* hilarious.
Might as well give Clinton a nose job and dye/perm his hair
and let 'im be the Michael Jackson clone.  This could be the
seed of a good political cartoon.

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From: stephena@netcom.com (Stephen Arrants)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:06:32 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <BvrJyz.MBM@scd.hp.com> mdrayton@sr.hp.com (Mike Drayton) writes:
>Jess Anderson (anderson@macc.wisc.edu) wrote:
>> 
>> I have a decent regard for Madonna, who's nobody's dummy,
>> but a person of the cultural stature of Dietrich she's not
>> very likely ever to be, nor even of the stature of Janis
>> Joplin, to pick someone in the music field.
>> 
>> -- 
>Who's Janis Joplin?

Marlene Dietrich's illegitimate daughter by Mary Pickford, of course. Meryl 
Streep is her third cousin, by the way.
From: markm@ogicse.ogi.edu (Mark Morrissey)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: By popular demand..
Date: 16 Oct 92 07:02:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.44193
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute (formerly OGC), Beaverton, OR

In article <67809@cup.portal.com> Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison) writes:
>
>Then you'll never experience the warm glow that only the UVE can
>produce in two (or more) individuals.
>
>[UVE - Ursine Velcro Effect]

But George, one of the couple can shave and you can still have UVE.
However, you run the risk of getting arrested if you have UVE in
public, then.

Sigh, this might be the second year in a row and only the third
winter since 1978 that I don't sport a beard.  However, the world
probably doesn't need another bright red beard from hell (it's true,
it is so curly and unmanageable that it shouldn't be facial hair!).

--mark
--
Mark Morrissey           One Hatred to rule them all.  One Hatred to find them.
markm@cse.ogi.edu        One Hatred to bring them all and in the darkness bind
                         them.  In the land of Bigotry where the Shadows lie.
From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Why you people alienate so many...
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:53:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Oct15.095339.27138
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <1992Oct14.204346.25894@tc.cornell.edu> shore@dinah.tc.cornell.edu (Melinda Shore) writes:
>In article <ldoui0INNqp9@spim.mti.sgi.com> dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
>> Melinda is siding with the Cabal (as 
>>per usual) without reading what he is saying.
>
>Of course I'm not reading what he's saying.  He's been in
>my kill file for quite some time now.  You'll find, as a
>result, that I'm not responding to what he's saying.  What
>I am responding to is your Celebration of Stupidity.  Why
>on earth anyone could possibly consider anti-
>intellectualism to be a good thing completely escapes me.
>
>Dan Quayle is a lousy role model, Jeff.
>--
>       Melinda Shore - Cornell Theory Center - shore@tc.cornell.edu


Does anyone see a pattern here?

Bil Snodgrass III
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: By popular demand..
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:27:03 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <1992Oct14.154620.12061@infonode.ingr.com>
norris@infonode.ingr.com (Jeff Norris) writes:

>-jeff, who took the opportunity to browse through a few
>other pics and has discovered that Jess Anderson is
>one!fine!looking!man!

Not easily swayed by such blandishments, I must say I
sit up and take notice at four-bangers.  Throw another
hog on the fire, I'll be down shortly.

Anent almost nothing, forced as I am into tonsorial idleness
by my as yet unremedied sacro-iliitis, but having
nonetheless been required by circumstance to put in an
appearance at the office yesterday for a meeting scheduled
to last 1.5 hours and in fact lasting (with a lunch break)
6.5 hours, thereby undoing considerable healing according to
the present testimony of my drugged senses, I shaved.  But
only my neck and a few thin spots.  If I keep it, there
could be a bearded moi on an archive site near (or far) one
day.  As one of those richly oversupplied with testosterone
(but shirley you knew that), it takes about two weeks to get
a beard (not on the GDM scale, of course) on these, um,
cheeks.  We shall see.  Well, more properly, I shall see, and
maybe you will too.

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From: ST402341@brownvm.brown.edu (Gary Byma)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The Rainbow Flag
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:07:35 EDT
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

In article <1992Oct7.195006.1729@oracle.us.oracle.com>, schiles@us.oracle.com
(Suzanne Chiles) said:
>
>By a 6-to-1 vote, the commisssion resolution declared that the display of
>the multicolored striped flag was an expression of civic "government
>free speech" and a recognition that "branch libraries belong to the
>communities they serve," said library Commissioner Dale Carlson.
>
>A fundamentalist group calling itself the San Francisco Christian Coalition
>had argued that flying the rainbow flag on a flagpole amounted to "special
>treatment" for lesbians and gays and a "promotion of the gay lifestyle."
>
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I'm sure someone will) but I had understood
that the rainbow flag represented the rainbow coalition which includes
persons of all races, and that the lavender strip on the flag was for
gays/lesbians. When did it become for queers only?

Gary Byma
From: black@sybase.com (Christina Black)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Surnames (was: TERMS OF ENDEARMENT)
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:46:29 GMT

In article <1as4j9INNgg9@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, his@the-temple.East.Sun.COM (Howard Solomon - SunExpress Support Engineer) writes:
 
|> Ours is easy.  Solomon and Weber := Sober.  Appropriate for me the 
|> vast majority of the time.  For those of you who know Mark, it is perfect.

It sure is!

Ok, folks, what do you do with "Black" and "Wedel" (pronounced like
"wheedle")?  "Wack"?  "Bledel"?

(Note to those in the know -- Obviously, we're not a couple in the 
usual sense, but the notion of kids has occasionally arisen.)

-- Chris
black@sybase.com
From: cjr10@cccvm.ccc.amdahl.com (Chris Russell)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: WARNING: Stealth African Marauding soc.motss
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:38:31 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corp.

In article <1992Oct13.152323.2753@wam.umd.edu>
lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat) writes:
 
>Let's all just love one another, right?  Besides, I didn't PERSONALLY bring you
>over here on infested slave ships, right?  Let's just forget about the past and
>forge a new future together as one, right?  WRONG!  Wake up!
 
You're right Donald, every group should hate every other group. Every
minority group that has been stomped on by a majority group should
hold that bitter memory for the rest of eternity and make them offer
retribution. After all, as long as we remember it we can never be
really equal, can we?
 
Problem is, just about everyone, gay/straight, white/black, etc. can
lay claim to injustices done to them by some other group, somewhere
in history.
 
Chris Russell
From: jns@elea.umd.edu (J. N. Shaumeyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Ah, Fashion.
Date: 8 Oct 92 06:42:52 GMT
Organization: Militant Homosexual Lobby, Gay Lifestyles, Inc.


Bob Donahue (rdonahue@spdcc.com), in whom I
am disappointed because I went to Sears and
found not a single $10 flannel shirt, and
was then disappointed to discover that at
Penny's, where one can find large *and* tall,
the same situation obtained, wrote:
 
> ...  I would probably make the
> mental note "Oh, he's wearing a suit", ....

I pause merely to point out that when it's
"Oh, oh my, he's wearing a suit and he's
bringing me *flowers*", the feeling is 
qualitatively different.  I still have
a tendancy to walk slightly above ground
level.

[Sorry to be such a tease, but I tend also
 to get vaguely superstitious at times like
 this.]

--jeff
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton)
Subject: Re: WARNING: Stealth African Marauding soc.motss
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 07:44:37 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.000827.22450@wam.umd.edu> lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald 
Andrew Agarrat) writes:
>
>This newsgroup supposedly promotes a society of people who love members of the  
>same sex.

Who says? 

>I propose that if soc.motss is, in the eternal words of James Brown  
>(almost), A White Man's World, another newsgroup should exist that recognizes  
>ALL gay people - NOT just the more intellectual, NOT just the (supposedly) more  
>articulate, and definitely NOT just focusing on the desires of ONE race of  
>people.  A newsgroup that allows people to say something stupid once in a while  
>without being relentlessly clobbered into never posting anything ever again.

Put together a Request For Discussion and Call For Votes if you think
another newsgroup is called for.  If you write a sensible proposal, it will
almost certainly pass.  

You may, however, have a hard time facilitating conversations between
people who are not articulate. 

>I see the kids who will be you in 8-10 years.  They are ignorant, but when  
>approached with the proper information, they become "tolerant" because they  
>feel like it's the fashionable thing to do.  Meanwhile, their views don't  
>change; my views just become "tolerable" to them.

I believe in cognitive dissonance; change their behaviors and their beliefs
will follow. 

>My rage continues to grow astronomically, because I  
>know that race relations in this country are either going nowhere or getting  
>worse.

You think you're improving that state of affairs? 

>Last night, I beat up a white boy with a baseball bat because he said  
>to me, "Hey Black Boy, suck my dick!"

I've said before that I thought the White Night riots in San Francisco were
a good thing.  Other people on soc.motss participated in the demonstrations
in Los Angeles after Pete Wilson's veto of AB 101.  I can't say that I
disapprove of violence in the face of injustice.  It's a bad situation the
only way to get attention is through violence, but sometimes it happens.
It's better when the violence is directed at property instead of people. 

-- 

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From: jf@threel.co.uk (John Fisher)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: WARNING: Stealth African Marauding soc.motss
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:40:29 GMT
Organization: 3L Ltd, 86/92 Causewayside, Edinburgh EH9 1PY, UK

In article <67551@cup.portal.com>,
Minotaur@cup.portal.com (Frank - Swilling) writes:

> [something]

That was pretty foul.  Cruel, and ruthless.

Not impressed, Frank.  Not impressed at all.

--John
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: How Long Yours Is or Are (was Re: WARNING)
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:50:55 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison


In article <thaaang.719140355@cwis> thaaang@cwis.unomaha.edu
(John Dorrance) writes:

>Darling, I hate to do this, but there's *still* *too* *many*. Cute
>very nearly gets cut in the above. You'll just have to cut back
>further. (Use my length (!!) as a guideline. An Ideal. I know everyone
>else does...)

Since I know you pay close attention to my every syllable, a
condition I've fostered by sowing lust among them, doing my
best to kept your length as it were up, allow me to sing the
praises of the 60-character line, which since reading speed
counts for all of us is *much* easier to read than anything
longer, and economizes in other ways contrasted to anything
shorter.  As an added benefit, it's a length that I fancy
approximates yours (you said to use it as a guideline) in
16pt monospaced fonts commonly found in the cyberworld.

petit moi [caress elder join sane]

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From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: By popular demand..
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:18:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Oct16.161824.14592
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <44193@ogicse.ogi.edu> markm@ogicse.ogi.edu (Mark Morrissey) writes:
>Sigh, this might be the second year in a row and only the third
>winter since 1978 that I don't sport a beard.

Why?

>However, the world
>probably doesn't need another bright red beard from hell

WE'll be the judge of that (what a silly thought.)

>(it's true,
>it is so curly and unmanageable that it shouldn't be facial hair!).

OK, Mark, it might be fun to torment George Madison with such musings,
but I draw the line when they start to affect me!

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: cbe@unlinfo.unl.edu (cbe)
Subject: Nureyev Ill
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 21:22:08 GMT

The following was issued by AP (reproduced sans permission):

PARIS(AP) - A frail and gaunt Rudolf Nureyev blinked back tears as the
audience at the Paris Opera surrounded him with flowers and leapt to 
its feet for a 10-minute ovation at the premiere of his choreography 
of "La Bayadere."  His thin frame wrapped in a red cape, his head held
high, the ailing 54-year-old dancer walked slowly onto the stage, 
supported by lead dancers Isabelle Guerin and Laurent Hilaire.  Within
seconds, the stage was covered by dozens of bouquets thrown by 
entusiastic fans witnessing what might be Nureyev's final creative 
effort.

...sigh.....almost sadder for what it doesn't say than what it does

Colburn Eigen                               H|u> = E|u>
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald Andrew Agarrat)
Subject: Re: WARNING: Stealth African Marauding soc.motss
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:42:31 GMT

In article <1bf0vkINN150@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> his@the-temple.East.Sun.COM  
(Howard Solomon - SunExpress Support Engineer) writes:
} Another rhetorical question I would like to ask is why the black and Jewish
} communities have such problems getting along.  From what I understand, they
} used to be strong allies.  I am not sure if anyone has the answer or if it is
} relevant to motss, but it has concerned me for a long time.

Where are Jews on the whole now?  Are there proportionally as many Blacks  
sending their children off to school as there are Jews?  I don't think so!   
Yeah, we used to be such strong allies.  Maybe that was before Jews start  
sending their children to American universities where they quickly learn what  
it is to be White.  Maybe that's when they started seeing Blacks through White  
eyes, with the same disgust and disrespect ...

Donald - Nigger Stompin' African!
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Subject: Re: M A D O N N A
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:54:42 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: soc.motss

In article <1992Oct7.230304.27513@wam.umd.edu>, lovegod@wam.umd.edu (Donald
Andrew Agarrat) wrote:
> 
> Just the fact that Madonna is being discussed so thouroughly here should tell you something ...

More than that, that Adolphson is talking to *me* about Madonna here
should tell you something.  Shameless Cabal baiting, I admit it...
 
> By the way, has anybody seen the "Erotic" video?  I saw a clip and Madonna  
> reminded me of Annie Lennox 10 years ago in the video for "Sweet Dreams (Are  
> Made Of This)" ...

So the hair question has been answered?  Short carrot top?  Or was that
a poste Sweet Dreams Lennox?

Melmothra, ACC
From: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu (William Hsu)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Restaurants in SF
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:32:38 GMT
Reply-To: hsu@walnut.sfsu.edu

In article <ldbbk4INNdph@spim.mti.sgi.com>  writes:
> 
> Though I am loath to give away the names of restaurants I like (I hate
> crowds) I will give some highlights of restaurants I really like in SF.

I'll add one, since it's usually not crowded (unlike the Anchor Oyster
Bar, did you *really* have to tell everyone, Jeff? :-)). 

The Indian Oven on Fillmore, close to Haight. Large menu with mix of 
North and South Indian dishes. Some of the best Indian cooking I've
had. Unfortunately it's a bit expensive, and the service is inconsistent.
If the food wasn't so good I wouldn't be going back regularly. (They're
also considerate enough to turn down the music if you want to try out
their piano.)

Oh, in case anyone cares who didn't know already, I've finally moved to
San Francisco.

Bill Hsu
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: bcapps@atlastele.com (Brent Capps)
Subject: Re: OCA==Scum sucking nazi shitheads
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:04:21 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.192700.2774@reed.edu> nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
>In article <BvnoGn.Fw9@world.std.com> entropy@world.std.com (The Entropic one) writes:
>>According to Clarinet Mabon is trying to blame "radical gay rights groups"
>>for the flyiers supporting the nazis in Salem Oregon.
>Actually, I'd guess Lon Mabon is more or less right on this one.  It
>was probably made by queers. However, I doubt whoever made it
>seriously thought they could discredit the OCA - it was probably more
>of a spoof. I also doubt that a "radical gay rights group" (he
>probably means Queer nation) was behind it - it was probably just a
>couple of people.
>
>This has been done in the past, several times - people spoofing the
>OCA hate via satire.

A *SPOOF*????!!!  The horrible painful deaths of two innocent persons
is no subject for satire or a political prank at the OCA's expense.
These fliers were probably distributed by Skinheads who would be only
too happy to bash *your* wide head open with a baseball bat and leave you to
die alone in some dark alley if they get half a chance.

I can't imagine *any* gay person doing this.  It is beyond comprehension.
I suppose the break-ins at the MCC and at St. Matthews where they
spraypainted "Kill faggots" all over the rectory were also done by
"radical gay rights groups" trying to discredit the OCA?  Diabolically
clever, these abnormal perverts, faking their own persecution like that...

-- 
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bcapps@atlastele.com   | for the views
bcapps@agora.rain.com  | of my employer.
From: tachyon@cats.ucsc.edu (Tane' Tachyon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Wash 'n Fold (was Re: Out in a snap (was Re: Ah, Fashion.))
Date: 11 Oct 1992 19:19:12 GMT
Organization: Tachyon Labs
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


Before I got a washer I used to go to the laundromat and either read
or run errands.  Or save money and hauling time by washing things in
the sink or bathtub instead of going to the laundromat.
 
I had one roommate, though, who had kind of a Sunday laundry women's
support group going with some of her friends.  They'd meet at the
laundromat every Sunday to talk while doing their laundry, and SO's,
roommates, etc. who were not part of the group were not allowed to go
along.

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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Subject: Re: Plants rights!
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 14:10:02 GMT


In article <1992Oct9.223248.847@calmasd.prime.com>
jhb@calmasd.prime.com (Jim Bishop) writes:

>In article <1992Oct5.182548.22322@spdcc.com>, 
>rdonahue@spdcc.com (Bob Donahue) writes:

>> ObJoke: What'sd the last thing that goes thru a bug's mind when it hits
>> 	your whindsheield?

>> It's asshole

>Do you think if the bug had twice the guts it would slam into the
>windshield again?

Whoop!  Why Jim, you're maybe the only person who would
respond to that at *any* length! :-)

<> Our families *have* values, but our government doesn't.
<> -- Bill Clinton at the Democratic National Convention, 1992
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