HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jimu@orthanc.cs.su.oz.au (James Uther)
Subject: Re: Acorn 610 as processor/coprocessor?
Reply-To: jimu@orthanc.cs.su.oz.au (James Uther)
Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:36:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.134146.631@wam.umd.edu>, rsrodger@wam.umd.edu (Yamanari) writes:
|> In article <BxL7t4.3tE@iat.holonet.net> bwilliam@iat.holonet.net (Bill Williams) writes:
|> >It has only 32000 transistors yet can magically support 4096 bytes of
|> >cache RAM in the 32000 transistors... hmmm lets see... lets pretend that
|> 	I was referring to the Byte magazine article some months 
|> 	back.  32k transistors, 4k cache and no FPU.   
|> 
|> 	Can anyone cite a claim from Acorn themselves??
 no, but
	from what I hear, the 610 is just a subcomponent, or module. The 32k
trannies represent the cpu, but an actual 610 uprocessor tends to be built 
with other things added. For example, the 610 for the newton started life 
by grabbing the 610 cpu module and sticking it in the corner of the silicon. 
Then a large object-based mmu with hardware garbage collection was designed 
and added. All in all far more than 32k trannies. The 610 is simply a core 
around which final uprocessors are designed.

	james
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: ornstein@refuge.Colorado.EDU (Ornstein Jason)
Subject: Different SIMMS
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:30:16 GMT

I was wondering if people could help me out.  I am trying to populate
some nexts's with ram but i'm not 100% sure what I need.  Below are
the machines and in the parens are my comments.  If people could tell
me if I am right or wrong, that would be great.  Email is preferred.
NextStation
 (I am pretty sure that this machine has 8 slots and can accept either
  1 or 4 meg simms.  As to the parity, i have heard that if you use
 all parity ram that you can tell the next to use it, but you can't mix
 parity and non parity ram in the same machine) 

NextStation Turbo
 (4 slots on this one that it takes a 32bit simms.  These simms come
 in 4 8 or 16 meg modules.  Any of these modules should work to
 populate the board.)

NextStation Turbo Color
 (Same as above, but I have heard that you can't but the 16meg modules
 in to the machine since they won't all fit.  I can't prove/disprove
 this but it came from someone at nextconnection)

Thanks for all the information in advance.  Also, if this happens to
be a faq, could someone tell me where it is.

-jason

-- 
Jason L. Ornstein                      internet: ornstein@Colorado.EDU
University of Colorado, Boulder        Unix Administration/Programming        
Unixops/Distributed Computing          (303) 492-6096
From: rcw@caspian.cc.vt.edu (R. Craig Woods)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: CD-ROM drives for NeXT - NEC InterSect 74
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:40:26 GMT
Reply-To: rcw@caspian.cc.vt.edu (R. Craig Woods)

Is there a list of CD-ROM drives that will work with the NeXT?  I searched  
the latest FAQ and did not see any listed.

Has anyone gotten the NEC InterSect CDR-74 CD-ROM drive to work or know
of reasons why it might or might not work?   I received NEC factsheet  
23766 from the NEC FastFacts FAX (800-366-0476) on the drive.  It  
indicates the drive supports High Sierra, ISO 9660, and Apple HFS, but I  
did not see RockRidge.   

Please respond directly and I will summarize.

---Craig Woods
Virginia Tech Computing Center
From: ricardo@lush (Ricardo Parada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: NeXTSTEP 486 Keyboard Question
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:39:57 GMT
Organization: Pencom Software

I'm just curious.  Does anybody know how NS 486 handle the PC keyboard.   
For instance, in the NeXT there is a Control, Alternate and Command.  On  
the PC there is a Control and Alt key.  So what does NS 486 use for  
Command?

Thanks

--
+ Ricardo J. Parada
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From: toad@toadstool.UUCP (Kevin Cheek)
Subject: Syquest on NeXT?
Organization: toadstool, Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 10:01:29 GMT

Does anyone use a Syquest drive (or equivalent) on their NeXT?

(I checked the FAQ's and NeXTanswers but I couldn't find references to Syquest)

I'm thinking of getting one but I want to know if there are problems using
them with NeXTs. I also want to know if I could easily use disks from other
platforms (Macs, for example) and visa versa. If anyone has any info,
suggestions (like I should be getting a tape drive or ??? instead), or
suggested sources for the drives, please let me know.

Please post or e-mail responses to me. I'll summarize e-mailed responses
if there's interest.

Thanks in advance for any advice anyone can give.

-- 
Kevin Cheek        --=NeXTMail OK!=--   |  Dawn, n.: The time when men
toad%toadstool@mudos.ann-arbor.mi.us    |         of reason go to bed.
toad%toadstool@plex-2.ann-arbor.mi.us   |           -- Ambrose Bierce,
toad@plex-1.ann-arbor.mi.us             |     "The Devil's Dictionary"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: NeXT CDROM on SGI Indigo?
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 23:10:18 GMT

In <Bxrv7x.M9E.2@cs.cmu.edu> rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes) writes:
| Well, the subject pretty much says it all.  Has anyone
| tried to use a NeXT CDROM drive with SGI's Iris Indigo
| series? If so, let me know how it turned out.

If you could tell us what brand and model it is, there might be
a bit better chance of telling.  Based on conversations with
a NeXT engineer, I doubt it would work for installing software on
anything except (maybe!) an r4k Indigo.  It might be usable
for ISO9660 disks once the system is up if it is a Sony or
Toshiba drive.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott)
Subject: Re: Should I buy a NeXT -> Thanks!
Reply-To: eps@cs.sfsu.edu
Organization: San Francisco State University
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:54:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.152314.27777@das.harvard.edu>
	charuhas@virtual4.harvard.edu (Thomas Charuhas) writes:
>I hate to do this, since I am a NeXT owner, but I would encourage
>you to look at the new Amiga 4000 if you are thinking about
>doing animation and video work. There is a plethora of
>solid modeling/ray tracing software available, as well as
>a whole assortment of video production software AND hardware.
>(If you see the Video Toaster you'll see what I mean).

I thought the Video Toaster "absolutely, positively" would NOT
work with the Amiga 4000--and that NewTek had *no* plans to
support the 4000.  Feel free to cite authoritative statements
to the contrary.

					-=EPS=-
-- 
We need the Amiga to "succeed" so we can keep making fun of it.
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From: nevin@dtint.dtint.com
Subject: Re: New SPARC Classic
Reply-To: nevin@dtint.dtint.com
Organization: Digital Technology, International
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:28:13 GMT

The head of engineering at our department just came back from Comdex.
He said Sun was showing their new SPARC Classic.
He said that THEY said (the Sun people) it required Solaris 2.X to run.

Another fellow here (a manager) was keeping his eyes open to software for  
Solaris 2.X.  He says none of the shrink-wrapped software that we are currently  
using on our Suns (Sybase, uShare, etc.) work under Solaris 2.X, nor are any  
working updates of that shrink-wrapped software expected for the near future  
(whatever 'near' means).

So, apparantly Sun has released a new machine for which there is no software.
Heh, heh, heh  :-)

BTW, I don't think our company will be getting any SPARC Classic's for awhile.

--
Nevin Pratt, Digital Technology, Int'l    Orem, Ut
NeXTmail preferred, but ONLY at my REAL email address: nevin@dtint.dtint.com

-- 
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500 W. 1200 South, Orem UT, 84057      FAX (801) 226-8438
From: neubert@cuphub.cup.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:51:41 GMT
Organization: California University of Pennsylvania, California, PA

In article <1992Nov05.200924.147058@lexmark.com>, songer@lexmark.com (Christopher Songer) writes:
> eboltz@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Eric Scott Boltz) writes:
>>This sucks for a few reasons:
> ...
>>3. The NRW will be AS FAST AS A HIGH-END CLONE.
> 
> Just as a passing question:
> 
> And how does the fastest machine in NeXT's lineup today compare with 
> a highend clone? (A: It's slower and more expensive.)
> 
> Next could do a heck of alot worse than commiting to Intel. Intel is
> doing a pretty good job keeping up with the Risc revolution. They seem
> to have about a year performance lag with the risc designs and this gap 
> has held for the past several years (unlike Moto who keeps falling
> further behind.) Plus: Intel has volume like no risc maker can hope to 
> achieve in the next several years. This makes for cheap silicon and
> that makes for cheaper machines.

I thought I'd heard somewhere that the microSPARC processor in the
new Sun Classics and LXs was much cheaper than even a 486 chip
(in quantity, of course).  Made by TI, which was an early believer
in the pricing curve, but then lost the memory/processor wars.

> 
> -Chris

John Neubert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gaia@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Subject: Has anyone bought Fujitsu drive from ClubMac?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:24:08 GMT


Has anyone any advice// comments on an external Fujitsu 520MB
SCSI drive from either ClubMac or APS for use with a Turbo?

Thanks

Robert de Lucca
Nextmail rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu
 




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From: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (Nathan F. Janette)
Subject: Re: Different SIMMS
Reply-To: nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University, Department of Computer Science, New Haven, CT
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:48:27 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.163016.26885@colorado.edu> ornstein@refuge.Colorado.EDU  
(Ornstein Jason) writes:
> I was wondering if people could help me out.  I am trying to populate
> some nexts's with ram but i'm not 100% sure what I need. 
> 
> Thanks for all the information in advance.  Also, if this happens to
> be a faq, could someone tell me where it is.

The FAQs are posted to comp.sys.next.announce.  The file you should
refer to is FAQ.memory...

--
Nathan Janette		"I'm a NeXTstep man,
Dept MB&B, Yale Univ	 I'm a NeXTcube guy"
New Haven, CT
nathan@laplace.biology.yale.edu (NeXT)

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From: jhg4b@boltzmann.mech.virginia.edu (Jay Grinstead)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT CD ROM on Macintosh?
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:28:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Nov16.152830.17866
Organization: University of Virginia

I know this question must have been asked before, but I don't know the  
answer. Are software drivers necessary? etc., etc.

thanks all,
jay
From: neubert@cuphub.cup.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: New RISC workstations / 88110 demise
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:47:48 GMT
Organization: California University of Pennsylvania, California, PA

In article <1992Nov5.070242.1983@cubetech.com>, andrew@cubetech.com writes:
> In article <1992Nov3.220241.12669@access.usask.ca> jake@skatter.usask.ca writes:
>>> I also haven't heard any word from NeXT that the NRW is dead.
>>> 
>>> Gordon
>>
>>Grand, but what could possibly be taking them so flamin' LONG to get the
>>thing, whatever it is, out the door?
> 
> NeXT is not known for trying to get the hottest box possible out the
> door before everyone else.  I think NeXT's goals are to have a really
> hot box running really hot software at a PC price (i.e. way less than
> a SPARCStation 10).  To do this you have to wait until stuff is cheap.

Way less than a SPARCstation Classic (i.e., $4K for color 50MIPs, 
200MB, 16MB, RISC)?  Would *love* to see it (in my lifetime), but...

> 
> 
> andrew
> -- 
> andrew@cubetech.com     | "Carpe Nocturn - I get more work done after
> Andrew Loewenstern      |  2 a.m. than most people do all day."
> Cube Technologies, Inc. |                          - Simson Garfinkle

John Neubert
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: gtoews@ugly.UVic.CA (Greg  Toews)
Subject: My Whites are Brighter and Whiter on the Left Side of the Screen
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 18:01:07 GMT
From: wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Hard drive doing strange things & OD question
Date: 19 Nov 1992 09:30:42 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca
Keywords: od optical hard disk drive

About the OD:  I've got one of those older cubes.  If your media starts to
spin-down every so often, you have a couple of options.  1) get a new drive.
2) get a refurbished drive  3) clean your drive.  I'm cheap.  Thus I do the
latter.  The quickie way is to get some compressed air and use the "straw" that
comes with the can of air.  Direct the air towards the lens of the OD, which
is located on the bottom half of the drive.  (Look at your media & how it goes
into the drive.  you can see where the lens is located.)

Don't forget to clean the media.

Usually, it seems that the drive itself is more often the problem.

You should by now have reversed the direction of the fan on the cube.  You want 
the air flow such that air enters via the back.  You also should have a OD
filter for your drive.  (It's kinda like the air filter for your gas furnace.)

Braver souls open up their cube periodically and blow the dust out.

 RWW.

Standard disclaimers apply.

-- 
Robert W. Wong Jr.
rwong@unixg.ubc.ca (ASCII only)
"I can't even remember all the things I've forgotten." - RWW.
From: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (Izumi Ohzawa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Hard drive doing strange things & OD question
Date: 19 Nov 1992 20:46:19 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
Reply-To: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: moica.berkeley.edu

In article <1efms2INNpme@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca>
 wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) writes:
>About the OD:  I've got one of those older cubes.  If your media starts to
>spin-down every so often, you have a couple of options.


If you have OD's/drives and would like to extend their lives as much as
possible.., stock up at least a few Optical Drive Filters (S3900) per
drive while they are still available. (I bought a dozen for a few of our
cubes with OD).  If you have not replaced the filter since you first
installed it with 68040 CPU upgrade, you should seriously consider
replacing it ASAP.  Open up the back, and see how black the filter has
become.  I would say, replace the filter at least once a year.

You would be asking for early death of OD drive if you keep using a
dirty air filter with resulting low air flow, and insufficient cooling.

Don't wait until you start to get spin-up spin-downs.  By then, it
would be too late and you would most likely be throwing the whole
thing out, data included.

I like the OD for what they are, and would be happy if they can last
a few more years.

--
Izumi Ohzawa             [ $@Bg_78^=;(J ]
USMail: University of California, 360 Minor Hall, Berkeley, CA 94720
Telephone: (510) 642-6440     Fax:  (510) 642-3323
Internet: izumi@pinoko.berkeley.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
From: alanlb@bethesda.cs.vt.edu (Alan L. Batongbacal)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Need 'sense' output for Fujitsu 2624FA
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:51:47 GMT
Reply-To: alanlb@csgrad.cs.vt.edu

Hi there!  I just installed one of these babies as my internal drive
(SCSI ID 1) and would like to format it to 1024 bytes/block.  I
attempted to Rory Bolt's formatter but apparently it doesn't work too
well if you use it to format your boot disk (I don't have an external
case).

What I'd like to do is use the 'format', 'sense' and 'select'
tools that come as part of the "scsitools" package found on the archives
to format my drive (I can boot from CD-ROM, you see, and can run these
from floppy).  So now I need some kind soul to e-mail me the output
of the 'sense' command, as in

	sense -t 1 -l 0 -p 63 >fujitsu-1024.sense

Said kind soul should, of course, already have an appropriately formatted
2624FA in his/her machine.

BTW, I sucked the "scsitools" package off of sonata.cc.purdue.edu.

Thanks!

-alan
From: edc@dna.bchs.uh.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: postscript printing
Date: 16 Nov 1992 21:27:50 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
NNTP-Posting-Host: dna.bchs.uh.edu


I have a postscript document which I want to print from my NeXT.

The problem is, font information is distributed with the file
as a postscript file created by the "fontloader" command on UNIX.

I get the wonderful error "undefined; Offending Command: serverdict"
when I try to use lpr < fontfile.ps to load the information into the
NeXT printer.

The man page only tells me "Use the normal NeXT font installation
procedures for NeXT 400 dpi printers." which is infinitely useless.
Any idea how to get the print looking reasonable from the NeXT?

Thanks, please mail answers to edc@evolution.bchs.uh.edu
<ESC>

--
..You either kiss the future or the past goodbye...
                          -- Ringo Starr (written by O'Deherty / Velez)
From: black@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (benjamin j black )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: ADB on a Turbo Cube
Date: 20 Nov 1992 02:58:51 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
Distribution: world
Reply-To: black@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (benjamin j black )
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu
Originator: black@studsys.mscs.mu.edu

Does anyone know if the new keyboard and mouse will work with a Turbo Cube?
(if you get the new ROM's?)

Thanks in advance,
SJ2
From: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: New Monitor for Old Colour Station
Date: 21 Nov 92 17:43:45 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU


I've currently got a 17" monitor with my colour station which has since  
the day I got it been "buggered"...unfortunately, NeXT was unable to fix  
it, and I've had to suffer with faulty equipment since I've owned my  
NeXT...but hearing people rant about how wonderful the new 21" Trinitrons  
are makes me consider getting one..

BUT

I have a NeXTstation Colour.  Notice the lack of speed enhancement and go  
faster stripes.  I don't think I can use ADB.

Is there a monitor that will work for me?

Thanks,
Scott
From: 2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu (Ryan K. Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Should I buy a NeXT -> Thanks!
Date: 19 Nov 1992 17:21:54 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Distribution: na
Reply-To: 2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

In article <1992Nov19.065446.3742@csus.edu>, eps@futon.SFSU.EDU (Eric P. Scott) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.152314.27777@das.harvard.edu>
>	charuhas@virtual4.harvard.edu (Thomas Charuhas) writes:
>>I hate to do this, since I am a NeXT owner, but I would encourage
>>you to look at the new Amiga 4000 if you are thinking about
>>doing animation and video work. There is a plethora of
>>solid modeling/ray tracing software available, as well as
>>a whole assortment of video production software AND hardware.
>>(If you see the Video Toaster you'll see what I mean).
>
>I thought the Video Toaster "absolutely, positively" would NOT
>work with the Amiga 4000--and that NewTek had *no* plans to
>support the 4000.  Feel free to cite authoritative statements
>to the contrary.
>
>					-=EPS=-
>-- 
>We need the Amiga to "succeed" so we can keep making fun of it.

Nope, I've used one with a A4000.  It will NOT work internally as
it does with the A2000, but there's nothing to prevent you from
using it externally with a third-party product, called Toaster-Cozy.
Followups to comp.sys.amiga.graphics.

 ----------------------------
 Ryan K. Brooks                        "You're never dead till you're        
 2575BrooksR@vms.csd.mu.edu                  out of quarters."     
 Marquette University EECE              
 NemeSys Corporation
 "Curtains for Windows" 
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From: rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi
Subject: NeXT CDROM on SGI Indigo?
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:23:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bxrv7x.M9E.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

Well, the subject pretty much says it all.  Has anyone
tried to use a NeXT CDROM drive with SGI's Iris Indigo
series? If so, let me know how it turned out.

Thanks,

Aaron
-- 
Aaron Hughes        DoD#0482   		The Freedom Junkie	
rane+@pulsar.fac.cs.cmu.edu		Bad cop. No donut.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware
From: jeremy john ahouse <ahouse@hydra.rose.brandeis.edu>
Subject: Mac CDRom on a NeXT?
X-Xxdate: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15: 14:30 GMT
Organization: Brandeis - Center for Complex Systems
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:11:59 GMT

How difficult is it to use a Mac CDRom Drive with a NeXT?

	- Jeremy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.sgi
From: olson@anchor.esd.sgi.com (Dave Olson)
Subject: Re: NeXT CDROM on SGI Indigo?
Organization:  Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 07:26:34 GMT

In <Bxsnu9.Bo2@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
| >In <Bxrv7x.M9E.2@cs.cmu.edu> rane+@cs.cmu.edu (Aaron Hughes) writes:
| >| Well, the subject pretty much says it all.  Has anyone
| >| tried to use a NeXT CDROM drive with SGI's Iris Indigo
| >| series? If so, let me know how it turned out.
| 
| >If you could tell us what brand and model it is, there might be
| >a bit better chance of telling.  Based on conversations with
| >a NeXT engineer, I doubt it would work for installing software on
| >anything except (maybe!) an r4k Indigo.  It might be usable
| >for ISO9660 disks once the system is up if it is a Sony or
| >Toshiba drive.
| 
| scsimodes reports it's a Sony CDU-541 in its cool black disguise.
| (Sorry, I don't have an Indigo to try one out on...)

There is a reasonably good chance that it will work with
the ISO 9660 code then, but no gaurantees.

It is unlikely to work for software installation.
--
Let no one tell me that silence gives consent,  |   Dave Olson
because whoever is silent dissents.             |   Silicon Graphics, Inc.
    Maria Isabel Barreno                        |   olson@sgi.com
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