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From: tirza@duteca.et.tudelft.nl (Tirza van Rijn)
Subject: Re: Robin of Sherwood
Organization: Delft University of Technology, Dept. of Electrical Engineering
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 20:17:15 GMT


In article <1992Nov16.092647.10587@cs.nott.ac.uk> rjt@cs.nott.ac.uk (Richard
Thomas) says:

> The first ever episode "Robin Hood and the sorceror" was broadcast as a single
> one hour-forty minute episode; "The swords of Wayland", "Herne's son" and "The
> Time of the Wolf" were broadcast as separate halves.

Maybe that's true for the UK, but I know that in the States both "Robin Hood and
the Sorceror" and "The Swords of Wayland" were broadcast as 2-hour episodes and
both "Herne's Son" and "The Time of the Wolf" in two 1-hour parts, while the
Dutch and German television did broadcast the four of them as two 1-hour parts.
Obviously this is largely dependent on the television station.

> Plus lots more I can't remember.

Here are some more:

Lillith                    - Gemma Craven
Baron Simon the Belleme    - Anthony Valentine
King Richard               - John Rhys-Davis
Sir Richard of Leaford     - George Baker
David, Earl of Huntingdon  - Michael Craig
Mark (= Henry of Skipton)  - Simon Dutton
Joshua de Talmont          - David De Keyser
Sarah de Talmont           - Katharine Levy
Esther de Talmont          - Amy Rosenthal
Samuel de Talmont          - Adam Rosenthal
Roger de Carnac            - Matt Frewer
Arthur of Britanny         - Reece Dinsdale
Old prisoner with rat      - Stuart Linden
Peter de Leon              - John Nettles

> Robin of Sherwood is without doubt the best television program that has ever
> been made.
 
I agree.

> If anyone wants to talk about the program, please email me, I could yack all 
> day about it. 

Well, you have my email address....

> In particular - is there a fan club?

Yes, there are:

Spirit of Sherwood
1276 West Marshall
Fernadale, Michigan 48220
USA

Friends of Robin of Sherwood
P.O. Box 237
West Upton, Massachusetts 01587
USA


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From: feldman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Todd J. Feldman)
Subject: "Yes Prime Minister"
Originator: feldman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:44:08 GMT


I am in desperate need of one "Yes Prime Minister" episode - the one 
titled "Power to the People."  If anyone has this on tape and wouldn't
mind making me a copy, I'd be extremely grateful.  I'll gladly return the
favor in any way I can and, of course, I'll pay for the tape and postage.

Thanks VERY much!

Todd
From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
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Subject: Re: Best TV prog ever (was Re: Robin of Sherwood
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:14:45 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

dave budd (zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk) wrote:
: So you never saw Chorlton And The Wheelies then?
: Their christmas special was x.l.ent
: 
: And of course that short tv film about the Spaniard who gets stuck in the 
: phonebox......

Bloody hell, someone with the same taste in TV as me!

Does anyone know if that Spanish thingy is on video or whatever, I kept
trying to explain it to my sister who *would not* believe me...

pete
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From: u0f98@seq1.keele.ac.uk (The Dominator)
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Subject: Re: Press Gang
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:13:20 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England

What a shame the gorgeous Gabrielle Anwar (Sam) left the show and they
left in that ugly one with the strange voice.
	Dominator

P.S. Did everyone see G.A. in Beverly Hills 90210 last week. 
	Luvly jubly
From: ccaaand@ucl.ac.uk (Andrew Dawson)
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Subject: Re: The Tomorrow People, today....as it were
Date: 22 Nov 92 00:34:54 GMT
Reply-To: ccaaand@ucl.ac.uk
Distribution: rec
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

bassler@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (bassler ryan p) writes:

>You don't know how I envy you.  I watched the Tomorrow People when I was
>growing up here in Illinois off Nickelodeon and loved it!  I have heard
>rumours lately that Nickelodeon was going to show these classic shows again...
>but, alas, no TP.  I hope the new show is wonderful and someday I can see it
>over here.

I read that the "new" Tomorrow People was going to be shown on Nickelodeon
in January. The show certainly has their logo at the end, so I'd be surprised
if they don't.
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Doctor Who - "The Daemons" in colour BBC2 tomorrow night
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.drwho
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:13:52 GMT


A reminder to all of you in the UK that a classic and recently 
restored Doctor Who story entitled "The Daemons" starts its run
tomorrow night in the UK. 
I'm in the US, and I'm reminding you to watch it.  Take that as a
measure of it's quality, which is extremely good.  Check the
Radio Times for the precise time or read some more postings as 
I'm sure someone will give it.

Steven.K.Manfred

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From: paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee)
Subject: Re: BBC Sports Coverage (was Re: Just laug
Reply-To: paull@plasma.co.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:56:38 GMT

In article 17322@sol.ctr.columbia.edu, Rab C. Nesbitt () writes:

>And BBC England? What I am looking at is how the BBC Britain treats British 
>sports. The input of BBC England to sports coverage by BBC Britain is way out
>of proportion and needs its balance redressed. If BBC England wants to put out
>sports programs with a predominantly English bias to England, that's fine, I
>have no objection. The same applies to BBC Wales, BBC Scotland and BBC Northern
>Ireland and their treatment of sports coverage. But when it comes to nationally
>produced programs by BBC Britain then all 4 should have *some* sort of input.
>I can't remember the last time I heard the football league results from
>Northern
>Ireland even being read out on Sportsnight. Don't they play football over
>there?

The fact is that the BBC has to follow the viewing figures. Now if you took
all those people who want to watch the English Premier league versus all those
who want to watch the Scottish Premier, the result must surely be for the English
Premier, simply because more people live here. This is also why BBC put masses of
Snooker on TV, rather than Curling, beacuse people watch it.

The BBC aren't going to put Scottish football because the viewing figures would
drop. I'm not interested in the Scottish Leagues in just the same way as I'm
not interested in the Italian league. If an additional "Scottish League" program
were shown, I would probably watch it sometimes, but not as often as "Match of the
Day".

For the same reason the BBC doesn't show programs on "How to get the most out of
your ZX Spectrum", there isn't the demand.

So the BBC puts out football that will captivate the biggest audience, and the
rest have to lump it. However the regional BBC stations can overide this decision.
Wales put's Rugby on. It seems evident that BBC Scotland doesn't think that Scottish
football is worthwhile.

Well you could always **GO** to the game.

TTFN

Hoppy

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From: Richard Thomas - STUCS204@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090
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Subject: Re : Rik Mayall, The New Statesman.
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:29:17 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom

Wasn't last nights episode of The New Statesman just the best thing you have ev
er seen.It was sick,perverted and contained the blackest humour I have ever see
n.*Marvellous*

     Richard Thomas

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From: sll28@cc.usu.edu (Lorna Payne)
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Subject: Re: Lovejoy
Date: 16 Nov 92 09:40:24 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

In article <1992Nov15.195833.6471@u.washington.edu>, rhiann@carson.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld) writes:
> Does anyone know which episode of Lovejoy Steven Pacey (Tarrent on
> Blake's 7) appeared in?  Which year?
> 
> Thanks--e-mail would be fine.

Steven Pacey appeared as one of the Aussie artists ("Gay Australians? there's
no such thing!") in the two-parter Death in Venice, which is adapted from
the Gash novel the Gondola Scam.  The novel is better.

> 
> Sandy
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From: imc@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Ian Collier)
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Subject: UK TV Reporting
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:08:27 GMT
Organization: Oxford University Computing Laboratory, UK
X-Local-Date: Thursday, 19th November 1992 at 7:08pm GMT
Originator: imc@msc5.comlab
X-Apologies: ... if you are in Oxford and reading my 4th consecutive article!

I have been asked whether I (or someone) could post on a regular basis
information about important programming that is likely to show up later on
US television services.  This article is to ask UK readers for volunteers,
and other readers what information would be desired.

So... How much interest is there in this project? What information would
readers like to see?  It has already been suggested that Clarissa and Prime
Suspect are among those programmes which would have been covered.  One
possible way to decide which programmes to post about in the future is to
see what appears in the features of newspapers and TV guides.
Alternatively, the most popular programmes (as dictated by the TV charts)
could be chosen.  What information about each show would you like to see?  A
classification (e.g drama or comedy), or a full review?

If there is enough interest, is anyone in the UK willing to post such
reports?

Please mail (to the address in the header or below) if you are interested
(or post a followup for a general discussion).

Ian Collier
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From: zzassgl@uts.mcc.ac.uk (Geoff Lane)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: SNL on BBC2
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:12:16 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre, Manchester, England, M13 9PL.

In article <1992Nov16.153223.13736@pixel.kodak.com> dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:
>The show runs 90 minutes, starting at 11:30 pm Saturday night (Eastern
>Time).  Sometimes it is rebroadcast in an edited version and then lasts
>only 60 minutes (incl, commercials, of course).  Say 70 minutes Beeb-time
>for the full version, 45 minutes for the edited version.  Of course, the
>Beeb version could be the best 60 minutes of the 70.....
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It's cut down to about 25 mins.  Looks like the Beeb is cutting out the
funny bits as being a bit too American (or possibly the export version is
hacked about to make it `marketable' by leaving in only the parts containing
internationally known artists.)

The format remaining is...

  Looong opening credits
  `Funny' monolog by presenter (who gets called backstage to be told off by
    the producer.)
  3 or 4 fake ads.
  Musical guest spot.
  Couple of sketches.
  Closing credits with everyone on stage.

The whole thing feels like a late 70's light entertainment show by someone
like Lulu rather than a hard edged comic/music show such as OTT or even the
Ch. 4 Saturday Night Live show of a couple of years ago. 





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From: STUCS205@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090
Subject: Re: Press Gang
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:44:35 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom

Press Gang is the best Childrens television program ever produced. For all you
devoted fans there is a feature length episode, which is supposed to be show so
metime around Easter (this came from the Going Live interview with Dexter Fletc
her (Spike)).
Arli Price (assistant to Sandra C.Hastie), will reply to letters that you send
to Press Gang at Richmond Films & Television Ltd (I will put the address on at
a later date). I also have the address of Gabrielle Anwar's agents who will sen
d you a signed Black & White photograph (again I will put the address up later)

 Does anybody known if there is an Official Press Gang Fan Club?
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                   stucs205@uk.ac.bham.ibm3090 - aka Mark
From: peterw@spider.co.uk (Peter Woodhouse)
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Subject: Re: BBC Sports Coverage
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:57:06 GMT
Organization: Spider Software, Edinburgh, Scotland

In article <19654.9211181859@thor.cf.ac.uk> scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker) writes:
>But surely "nationally produced programs" should cater for the majority
>- which unfortunately for you is the English. The BBC also knows that
>Scotland, Wales and N.I. can override what it wants (well, I'd guess they
>can, can't they?) if they have the resources to do so. How  they
As I understand it, they can override all programmes except the news.
Well if BBC Scotland can banish Wogan to 11pm on Friday night last year for
football they must be able to :-)

Peter
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From: nrp@csug3.cs.reading.ac.uk ("Traitorous bird climates" Neilski)
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Subject: Re: Robin of Sherwood
Date: 18 Nov 92 14:34:20 GMT
Reply-To: nrp@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: University of Reading

Andy.Taylor@brunel.ac.uk (Andy J Taylor) writes:

> Why go to Nottingham? Robin was made in Somerset (mostly) by HTV West
>(for the US citizens out there: Somerset is in the South West of
>England, Nottingham is in the North somewhere).

As a Nottingham boy in exile, I have to point out that Southerners say that
Nottingham is in the North, Northerners say it's in the South.  It's
actually in the East Midlands.  Note for Americans and other
underprivileged:  find where East Anglia bulges out from the right hand
side of the country, and go a bit inland from the top of there.  Then you
might find it if you look hard enough.

Oh yes - Nottingham Castle is horrible.  Probably anyone who's been there
will agree.  But the rest of the place is wonderful! :-)

-- neilski
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From: langbein@pilot.njin.net (John Langbein)
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Subject: Re: SNL on BBC2
Keywords: SNL,BBC2
Date: 16 Nov 92 19:51:51 GMT
Organization: Information Builders, Inc.
To: cs91eeb@brunel.ac.uk

In article <Bxt675.F10@brunel.ac.uk> cs91eeb@brunel.ac.uk (Erik Bussink) writes:

> So this weekend it was the second showing of Saturday Night Live on BBC2.
> Is the SNL shown by BBC2 a cut version (I'm sure of it), what is the lenght
> of the show in the States ?
> Is it just me, or does the jokes look so un-funny ? if this is the show shown
> in the states, I don't understand how it could be such a success, some jokes
> are even worse than Wayne's World.
> 
> (Note the show was the 2 show from season 18)

You Poor People!!!!!! Having to suffer season 18 is MORE than most
Humans can BARE!!!

Truth of the matter, Saturday Night Live, when it first came on in the
mid 1970's was FANTASTIC. It was definitely the glory days. After the
first 5 seasons, and the removal of the original cast, SNL began to
die. It had it's moments (Mr. Robinson's Neighborhood, for example),
but it just began to die. Each 'first new cast' was awful, and the
cast would be re-vamped totally, with only a couple hold overs. Many
people still watch the show out of some strange loyalty. I finally
gave it up for the most part after they dropped the second cast,
although I like Phil Hartman's character Gene. 

If you really want to see Great Saturday Night Live, You can try the
rental shop for a video from the first five seasons, featuring the
classic castincluding Dan Ackroyd, John Belushi, Chevy Chase, Jane
Curtain, Garret Morris, Bill Murray, Larrane Newman, and Gilda Radner.
I especially reccomend any episodde with guests Steve Martin (and
George Carlin, first episode, Real Classic), Buck Henry (You see the
Samarai in those usually), and pretty much any other episode. Also, if
Paul Simon appears, you can expect him in one of the funnier skits,
althogh I think he never appeard in the early episodes. 

Saturday Night Live is kind of like, say, "Are You Being Served",
great early on, but it just died. Lorne Michaels, the original
producer, seems to really be focusing the cutting edge humor in his
Canadian Series "The Kids in the Hall". He left SNL in the early 80's,
and came back later to save it, but I don't think he has the same
energy for the show like he use to, or like he has for Kids now.

				John Langbein

P.S. VH1 is showing the 1/2 hour syndicated version of the first cast
from Saturday Night Live at 6:00 PM ET Weekdays.
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From: mei172@cch.coventry.ac.uk (guru)
Subject: L7 on The Word
Organization: Coventry University
Distribution: uk
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:28:14 GMT

guru sez:
	for the first time in many moons I happened to be in on Friday and
	saw The Word for the first time in years.

	On the show they had the all-female grunge-rock band L7, the lead
	singer of which chose to remove her trousers at the end of the song,
	flashing her pubic hair for all to see.

	Later on, they had Olliver Reid, pissed out of his mind, and they
	took the mick non-stop.

	From these two clips, I can conclude that The Word is still the same
	uneasy mess of things which would normally have the plug pulled by
	high-ups, and things upon which the viewer would rather pull the plug.

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From: dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
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Subject: Re: Take your pick/Double your money
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:10:56 GMT
Organization: Vonnegut Tent Rentals, Inc.
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Paul W. Emery (pwe@slipknot.mit.edu) wrote:
> The other night just before falling asleep,for some unfathomable
> reason,I remembered these two 60's game shows,one "Take your pick"was
> hosted by Michael Miles and I remember something about keys and boxes.
> The second show "Double your money"was hosted by the obnoxious Hughie
> Green who later went on to "Opportunity Knocks" another godawful but
> faithfully watched programme.
>       While writing this I've just remembered another one "The Golden
> Shot" with Bob Monkhouse"this man made Hughie look good".Contestants

Such things are depressing because (a) they usually prove to be
derived from US originals (e.g. "Double Your Money" == "$64000 Question")
and (b) they lived long beyond the time when US TV went on to bigger and
blander things, thus demonstrating the ability of the British viewing public
to keep watching out of mindless habit.  But then "Terry and June" proved
that to everybody's satisfaction long ago.

Monkhouse should have stayed with being a collector, preserver and exhibitor
of classic silent movies.  As a compere he usually had his foot in his mouth,
and when he tried satire he made me want to put mine there too.  He got the
job after the original (Austrian?) compere was fired for not being English
enough.

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From: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)
Subject: BBC Sports Coverage 
Distribution: world
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 12:20:00 +0000


In article <1992Nov19.141113.479@meiko.com> paull@plasma.co.uk writes:

> The BBC has to follow the majority view, to get the biggest
> viewing figures.

Whether the BBC is getting the larger share of the viewing public is
debatable, indeed it is debatable whether they DESERVE the largest share. I
agree with your assertion that the BBC has to follow the majority but I
would argue that is does NOT rather it is still back in the days of 2LO
when it was an service for the elite and assumed elitist views. Their
attitude hasn't changed in the 75 years since they started broadcasting.

> Like what football team do you show to suit the whole nation.

That's easy the BBC NEVER shows football it only shows soccer. Football is
considered a minority interest and relegated to Channel 4.

> Bit tricky Eh???

Not really there IS only one football team...the 49ers! :-)

Regards, Trevor.

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From: deanc@ex.heurikon.com (Dean Cheney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: SNL on BBC2
Keywords: SNL,BBC2
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:14:30 GMT
Organization: Heurikon Corporation, Madison, WI



In article <1992Nov18.004854.3436@csd.uwe.ac.uk> vcs_teo@csd.uwe.ac.uk (VCS Teo) writes:
>In article <Bxt675.F10@brunel.ac.uk> cs91eeb@brunel.ac.uk (Erik Bussink) writes:
>>Is it just me, or does the jokes look so un-funny ?
> 



     Attention UK viewers;

       Don't bother watching the SNL that was broadcast on 14-NOV-92
     hosted by Michael Keaton. Although I don't mind Keaton and am an
     SNL fan myself, this episode was NOT funny. Morissey wasn't bad
     though.





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