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From: leon@bass.bu.edu (Leonid Charny)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Automatic application installer program
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:22:45 GMT
Reply-To: leon@bass.bu.edu (Leonid Charny)
Organization: Boston University


	Could anyone suggest a utility that would allow one to install an
application with its icon and command line into a specified group window.
In effect this will be a batch mode for a task that is performed via
the FILE/New menu.

	Thanks a lot.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: JUERGEN@hugo.rz.fh-ulm.de (Juergen Mueller)
Subject: TDW and 8514
Keywords: TDW, 8514
Organization: Transferzentrum ESD
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:05:33 GMT

Is there anybody running the Borland TDW with an ATI Vantage Graphics Card?

When I start TDW, Windows 3.1 hangs up completely. I've already tested the 
suggestions coming with the README from BC3.1, but it didn't work. Only if I 
run Windows in Standard-VGA mode TDW will function correctly.

Thanks for your help,

Juergen

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From: axs9017@hertz.njit.edu (Alexander Shinkar)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Using C, in OWL
Summary: Using C Library in OWL
Date: 11 Jan 93 14:02:42 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

Hello All,
Im hoping that some one out there in net land, would be able to
help me.
I am tryying to use, some C librarys from KENSMEN (sp) corporation,
to develop some C++ Windows programs.
I am using Borland C++, and OWL.
Im wondering if any one has tried either this package, or something like it.

I seem to have problems creating the status window.
The manual says that I should use a call to CreateWindow, to accomplich
this, but I have no idea at what point I should be doing this...
If anyone has a clue, or a hint of what I should be doing, please email
me directly
Thanks very much.
Alex
axs9017@hertz.njit.edu
From: rkeel@fnugget.intel.com (William R Keel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: PowerBuilder: Any GOOD Experiences?
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:13:37 GMT
Organization: INTEL.FOLSOM

In article <C0pqr1.BGJ@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umlamott@ccu.umanitoba.ca writes:
>All of the replies dealt with poor experience with this product; has
>anyone out there had a GOOD PowerBuilder experience? And if not, which
>development tool do you use instead?

We have chosen powerbuilder as our current windows application programming
language.  We chose the product because of its ability to connect to SQL
server.  At the time, Visual Basic didn't have any SQL links.  We has problems
with support from Gupta which was the only other development package that 
supported SQL.  PB is fairly powerful...it gets the job done.  The main
flaw we've come across is its report writing capabilities.  The speed of
the product is directly related to our SQL server - people in my group
have developed usable programs with PB.

However, I was slated for a PB class...until we received Access.  I'm just
starting 2 project and I am using Access(to better evaluate the program).
Access appears to have as much functionality - for us - than PB.  Less
or no coding from Access to get a prototype database.  Again, I think
our speed is relative to the SQL server, but Access matches PB in data
access times.
Once you get to complicated things, programming is probably very similar
between products.

The complicated part is this...Powerbuilder HAS a run time...that is,
you can make stand alone apps.  The PB license is kinda expensive, but
you can put your app anywhere(I think) at no extra charge.  Access
does NOT have a run time yet.  The slated release (I've heard) was Summer
1993.  Assuming there is no run time...by a bunch @ $99 so everyone can
get to my db...or wait & find out the run time is expensive...or have
NO run time, buy everyone access software @ $375 a pop.

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From: alan@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Alan Phillips)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: programming editors for windows?
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:50:50 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <1993Jan9.052139.26358@netcom.com> dosbears@netcom.com (David R. Preston) writes:
>I'm looking for a good editor to use under windows for programming
>in Microsoft C/C++ 7.0, both for windows programs and non-windows
>programs. Currently we're using Brief 2.1 for Dos, which kind of 
>makes sense since Mc/c++7.0 isn't a windows app either :-), but the
>boss wants me to look at windows editors. I've ordered Codewright 2.0
>and a demo copy of ED for Windows. What else should I look at?  Is
>EditPro any good? It's certainly cheap....


Have a look at my Programmer's File Editor, which is so cheap it's free!
It's on ftp.cica.indiana.edu, but you may need to hunt a bit for it as they've
got a huge backlog. Try in /pub/pc/win3/programr, and then in
/pub/pc/win3/uploads/NOV92. You want pfe00402.zip. It's also on
wsmr-simtel20.army.mil in pd:<msdos.windows3>

The current release is 0.04.002; there should be another one with more
goodies in it before the end of this month

Alan
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: maley@micro.cs.umn.edu (Michael P Maley)
Subject: want opinions on zApp
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 06:20:10 GMT

Can anyone send me their opinion of zApp. I am doing alot in OWL,
but lately have had some problems with it and I think I need
a better AF. The zApp ad reads and looks nice. And I read a brief
review of it in the latest Computer Language, but the author of
the article didn't say much and oddly enough did include it in
the comparisons he made. I like the cross-platform support of
zApp. And I hope in the near future to jump on the NT bandwagon.
Any help anyone can give would be greatly appreciated.

Please send email unless you think your summary would help
everyone.

Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks. Thanks.

Mike Maley
maley@cs.umn.edu

p.s. I am tired of pulling my hair out trying to figure out how to
get the Find commdlg to work in the OWL context. I think it might
be impossible.

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: Ian_Upright@mindlink.bc.ca (Ian Upright)
Subject: Re: programming editors for windows?
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:05:58 GMT

> David R. Preston writes:
>
> I'm looking for a good editor to use under windows for programming
> in Microsoft C/C++ 7.0, both for windows programs and non-windows
> programs. Currently we're using Brief 2.1 for Dos, which kind of
> makes sense since Mc/c++7.0 isn't a windows app either :-), but the
> boss wants me to look at windows editors. I've ordered Codewright 2.0
> and a demo copy of ED for Windows. What else should I look at?  Is
> EditPro any good? It's certainly cheap....


I would definitely look into EW! for Windows (EW100.ZIP), suppose you can
do an Archie for it.. I don't know if it's on any FTP sites..  It's fairly
high quality for a shareware product.. Well worth looking into..

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From: oylonen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi (Otso Yl|nen (OSY))
Subject: Re: Choreographer
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 11:51:37 GMT

In article <9212311600.AA02477@turtle.cis.ohio-state.edu>, ramesh@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (Tharuvai S Ramesh) writes:
> Has anybody used this product? Any opinions?

Yes,   I've   used   it   for  almost  two  years.  I'm  working  at  Nokia
Telecommunications  in  Finland  where we are using Choreographer to design
highly  graphical user interfaces for telephone operators. We're developing
on OS/2, which is also our target OS.

The  Choreographer  language and the OO-concept in it is very much the same
as  in  Smalltalk/V PM (the biggest exeption is that Choreographer provides
multiple  inheritance).  The system includes several tools for OOP. Most of
them  are  similar to the ones in Smalltalk/V PM and Object/1 but there are
also  more: an editor for graphical objects, a bitmap editor, an editor for
making Presentation Manager windows and dialogs etc.

Choreographer  appeared  to be the most advanced way to go when we selected
the  development  tool  two years ago - I think it still is. It has all the
benefits  of  an  object  oriented  environment  and  it still enables good
connectivity  to  outside world. All standard features of OS/2 PM are avai-
lable  through Choreographer. It's strengths are in making garphical inter-
faces,  however  it's  possible  to  implement the entire application using
nothing  but  Choreographer.  Due to the overhead of an interpretative sys-
tem, any number crunching is better off done in a DLL.

The  biggest disadvantage is the price: about US$7500! Not a tool for every
boy and girl ;(

The  current  version  is  Choreographer  1.3  for  OS/2  (1.x and 2.x) and
Choreographer  2.x for Windows 3.0. Inspite of the smaller number, the OS/2
version  has  got  more  functionality. There will be a major update during
the  spring  (Choreographer 3.0). This is expected to include a full 32-bit
and  WPS support for OS/2. This version also combines the now separate OS/2
and Windows versions. A version for the NT should be out later this year.


To get more information, please contact

        GUIdance Technologies, Inc.
        800 Vinial Str.
        Pittsburgh PA 15212
        voice/fax (412) 231 1300

GUIdance is represented in Europe by ICL.

Yours,
         
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From: j_pan@ranger.enet.dec.com (Joanna Pan)
Subject: Creating status bar
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:18:59 GMT

Is there any good tool to generate code for status bar ? QuickC for Windows,
which is the tool I am using, does not have this capability. 
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From: yfwu@Uz.nthu.edu.tw (EE U780935)
Subject: Re: VB 2.0 - using the clipboard?
Organization: National Tsing Hua University (HsinChu)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 06:10:10 GMT

The data you put in the Windows clipboard is only the hDC of pictures.
The MDI child in your picturebox is not owned by the picturebox.

If you want to put picturebox and the MDI icons into clipboard, get the
Desktop hWnd, then copy the area of your picture box on your screen to
clipboard....

Here are some API call needed here...
   GetDesktopWindow
   GetDC, ReleaseDC, CreateCompatibleDC ,.... etc (I forget)
   BitBlt
   
   The clipboard instuction in VB are not allowed here. So you must use 
clipboard API function.

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From: hartman@ulogic.UUCP (Richard M. Hartman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: Protogen/ Owl directories
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:29:20 GMT
Organization: negligable

In article <86238@ut-emx.uucp> jamshid@emx.utexas.edu writes:
:Crossposted and followups redirected to a newsgroup devoted to
:programming tools for Windows.
:
:In article <1993Jan6.060043.28516@umr.edu> chrisg@cs.umr.edu (Chris Gorsuch) writes:
:>I have recently purchased the Borland C++ 3.1 compiler.
:>It came with the ProtoGen windows creator included with it.
:>The problem is that Protogen is Looking for /borlandc/owl/owl.h
:>and it causes an error when it realizes that I have no owl directory
:
:ObjectWindows Library is Borland's class library for Windows.  OWL
:comes with BC++ *with* Application Frameworks or with the Windows-only
:Turbo C++ for Windows.  I highly recommend using OWL or some other
:class library when programming for Windows (the C API is a nightmare).
:I believe BC++ w/ AF is about $200 at an educ. discount and TC++4W is
:<=$100.  Ask customer-support@borland.com (no tech support!) for more
:info.  Btw, Protogen can probably output code which doesn't use OWL --
:read the docs.

Even if you didn't get the "with App Frameworks" edition, you should
have the OWL include files & libraries.  Did you install them?  (The
Borland install program gives you options to leave out just about
everything...)

:>Question 2 is what header file should I give protogen...
:>ie how do I hook MY code into the individual menus I have set up.
:>It would appear from the little pamphlet that I do all of the protogen
:>work first and THEN create my code and hook it into it.
:>but without being able to get by the owl problem I can't begin to tackle
:>the second problem

Protogen works w/ OWL.  One of the setup options in Pgen is whether
you are doing straight C, C++ or C, C++ w/ OWL.  You are correct you 
can't solve this second problem until you solve the first.

Note: I don't use Protogen, I use Object/Designer.

		-Richard Hartman
		hartman@ulogic.COM

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From: jeff@emily10.Berkeley.EDU (Jeffrey C. Ely)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Weird linker error
Date: 8 Jan 1993 03:24:50 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Statistics, U. C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: emily10.berkeley.edu

I am using Turbo C++ to compile a simple .prj containin a single .cpp, a
single .h and a .def file.  I get linker errors which say, e.g. WinMain(..)
in module ../../blah blah is duplicated in ../../blah blah.

The weird thing is that "blah blah" and "blah blah" are the same file!
What's going on?  Is it looking at the file more than once? or what?
any ideas appreciated.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: a722756@roper.mc.ti.com (W. Donald Rolph)
Subject: quickC for windows upgrade
Originator: a722756@roper.mc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments / Attleboro Mass / USA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:42:52 GMT


Anyone know if microsoft is planning an upgrade for quickC for windows.  I can
only seem to get as hold of the version 1.0
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Regards.
 
Don Rolph  a722756@pan.mc.ti.com WD3 MS10-13 (508)-699-1263
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From: shah@cherry.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Shahrin Abdullah)
Subject: Large Memory Model - Opinion wanted
Keywords: Large memory model
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 04:18:05 GMT

Hi there!

I need to declare several large structure array which might exceed the 64KB
data segments. Therefore I need to use the large memory model but according
to some books large model are not recommended for windows program. But on Internet somebody mentioned that "there is no reason not to use large memory model - not anymore". Could somebody help to explain this? And if I used large
memory model, is there anything which I need to be cautious of. 

I am using a 486 system with Windows ver 3.1 and MS 7.0. Thanks.

Shahrin
Email shah@iss.nus.sg

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From: shah@cherry.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Shahrin Abdullah)
Subject: Re: MS C/C++ 7.0 - No Windows Editor... Why???
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:43:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.185845.11979@news.duc.auburn.edu>, swhall@eng.auburn.edu (Steven Wayne Hall) writes:
|> 
|> ---
|> I have been a user of Microsoft compilers for several years.  I like their products and have been avoiding using Borland for a while.  Now, if you want to really do Windows programming in Windows, with a real Windows IDE, you almost have to use Borland.  |> Why is this???  Microsoft created Windows and supposedly they have released the Windows development environment, but no Windows editor.  This really makes no sense at all to me.  PWB is not even a Windows app.  So what if you can access the menu item




WIndows with a mouse.  Where is the Windows editor and where is a source level debugger in the Windows environment???  Why should I have to purchase a program like Multiscope to debug my code and have to use someone elses editor??  Where is a Windows Cla|> ss Browser??  Are there others who feel the same as me??
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Well I also share the same feeling as U. I normally used my favourite window editor when editing my program but used PWB to compile it. After 
making some changes(due to error) to my program in PWB, I switched back to my
favourite window editor( to continue editing) and find the original indentation 
of the program being changed drastically. This is horrendous, man. Could anybody tell me the problem here? Many thanks!

Shahrin Abdullah

PS . MS should provide a Window editor for MS C7. Just like QuickC.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
From: mcdonald@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (J. D. McDonald)
Subject: Re: Peek and Poke in Visual Basic 1.0 ???
Organization: UIUC SCS
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 00:23:37 GMT

In article <aXcXwB1w165w@salzo.Cary.NC.US> charvel@salzo.Cary.NC.US (Jeff Cogswell) writes:

>galenr@hpgrla.gr.hp.com (Galen Raben) writes:

>> In comp.windows.ms.programmer, harti@mikro.ee.tu-berlin.de (Stefan Hartmann (
>> 
>> >I have just bought Visual Basic 1.0 standard edition and wanted
>> >to program a special hardware board inside the PC with it....
>> >  **stuff deleted **
>> 
>> Stefan,
>> It is possible, but not for the faint-of-heart.  On CompuServe (and probably
>> a good number of ftp sites as well) in the MSBASIC forum VB library the file 
>> is called "inout.zip".  The reason MS doesn't include this functionality in
>> VB 1.0 or 2.0 is that it is EXCEPTIONALLY EASY to corrupt the Windows 
>> environment by directly writing to hardware - definitely not for the average
>> software hacker (therefore MS limited their liability).

>Always be careful when using peek & poke; [they remap locations in
protected mode]

Yes, but is what he wants "peek and poke" or "in and out". In and out
do NOT change locations in protected mode. I use them all the time;
no problem. (But not using vbasic).

Doug McDonald
From: pluto@cs.ucsd.edu (Mark Plutowksi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: Borland TDW & Graphics Accelerators (S3)
Date: 5 Jan 93 17:18:00 GMT

pluto@cs.ucsd.edu (Mark Plutowksi) writes:

>dale@odetics.com (Dale Pischke) writes:

>>Hello, just tried Borland's TDW with my new Diamond SpeedStar 24X board,
>>and TDW totally mangles the video in Windows. I assume it is because
>>TDW is not 'S3 aware'.

>If this isn't an FAQ it should be. Where do I find the FAQ for 
>this group anyway??? I'm not at my PC right now so I can't repost
>the solution  that I posted some while back, and since I don't know
>where the F'ing FAQ is I can't tell you whether it's in there..
>If you can wait half a day I can repost it when I get home,
>in the mean time maybe somebody else will respond.


First, get the new s3.dll, from Borland's bbs, either their own,
or the one on Compuserve (it may be elsewhere also.)

Put this in your borlandc\bin directory.  Find also a tdw.dll there.
Edit your tdw.ini like follows:

[TurboDebugger]
VideoDLL=c:\borlandc\bin\s3.dll
DebuggerDLL=C:\BORLANDC\BIN\tdwin.dll
[VideoOptions]
DebugFile=c:\borlandc\bin\tdw.log
SaveWholeScreen=no
Int2FAssist=no
IgnoreMode=no


The important lines are the VideoDLL, DebuggerDLL, and DebugFile lines.

And, lastly, make sure that the tdw.ini is in your windows directory,
along with your other *.ini files.

Works for me,  good luck to you,

= Mark
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From: dwightm@microsoft.com (Dwight Matheny)
Subject: Re: Wanted: DDK!
Date: 07 Jan 93 19:02:05 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.

Both the Win 3.1 DDK and the Windows NT Pre DDK are available
in Germany. Just give MS Germany a call. The 3.1 DDK may also
be available retail like it is here in the US, but I don't 
know for sure.

-Dwight (MS)
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From: dosbears@netcom.com (David R. Preston)
Subject: programming editors for windows?
Organization: DosBears at Netcom
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 05:21:39 GMT

I'm looking for a good editor to use under windows for programming
in Microsoft C/C++ 7.0, both for windows programs and non-windows
programs. Currently we're using Brief 2.1 for Dos, which kind of 
makes sense since Mc/c++7.0 isn't a windows app either :-), but the
boss wants me to look at windows editors. I've ordered Codewright 2.0
and a demo copy of ED for Windows. What else should I look at?  Is
EditPro any good? It's certainly cheap....

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From: pluto@cs.ucsd.edu (Mark Plutowksi)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.programmer.tools
Subject: Re: Borland TDW & Graphics Accelerators (S3)
Date: 5 Jan 93 03:38:01 GMT

dale@odetics.com (Dale Pischke) writes:

>Hello, just tried Borland's TDW with my new Diamond SpeedStar 24X board,
>and TDW totally mangles the video in Windows. I assume it is because
>TDW is not 'S3 aware'.

If this isn't an FAQ it should be. Where do I find the FAQ for 
this group anyway??? I'm not at my PC right now so I can't repost
the solution  that I posted some while back, and since I don't know
where the F'ing FAQ is I can't tell you whether it's in there..
If you can wait half a day I can repost it when I get home,
in the mean time maybe somebody else will respond.