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From: mol@jyu.fi (Mika O. Latokartano)
Subject: Re: Speaking of Ridley Scott...
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:11:05 GMT

In article <truesdel-200892000604@cobler.ics.uci.edu> truesdel@ics.uci.edu (R. Scott Truesdell) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.143558.22354@midway.uchicago.edu>,
>ttak@ellis.uchicago.edu (toki  takeuchi) wrote:
>
>> Also, how's Blade Runner?  I'm interested in seeing it.
>
>Blade Runner? You ask alt.cult-movies "how's Blade Runner?"?!
>I think I can safely say, for the group, without too much fear of
>contradiction, "good."
>
>I think Rutger Hauer's character is so good and so well cast. Ridley Scott
>basically single-handedly defined a whole unique look for the future that
>has been copied and built upon by dozens of directors after.
>
>Lot's of subtlety and depth and detail. The movie really stands up to
>repeated intense scrutiny. And did I forget to mention Rutger Hauer's
>lines?
>

  Just read from "Image" (published during the summer, can't remember the
  date - oh, and the mag is Finnish, although published in English as
  well) and interview of Ridley Scott.  He talked about lots of topics,
  but just to mention a couple of more interesting points:

 	Philip K. Dick had the chance to see Blade Runner before he
  died.  Although there are some differences between the book and the
  movie, PKD said about RS's Blade Runner "It is beyond my wildest
  dreams!" (paraphrased).  BR is apparently just what PKD wanted it to be.

	Ridley Scott will start filming a sf-movie after the Columbus-
  production is over.  He also said, he'd love to work with Vangelis
  again.  Scott mentioned being surprised that no-one has used the
  idea he has for the film before.

	- Mika




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From: donnell@squid.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: suspiria [was Re: Wim Wenders filmography request]
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:21:39 GMT
Organization: none

In article <BtBA71.FuE.1@cs.cmu.edu> spot@CS.CMU.EDU (Scott Draves) writes:
>
>i recently saw _suspiria_, so i thought i'd comment.
>
>i think it works just fine on a video screen.  i don't think it's a
>great film.  certainly on a higher plane than standard stupid horror,
>but not top-notch either.  with one exception: the sound track.  wow.
>is it available?  who did it?  have they done other music/movies?
>-- 
>			consume
>Scott Draves		be silent
>spot@cs.cmu.edu		die

The soundtrack to Suspiria is by Goblin. It is available as a Japanese import
CD, and they were at least 2 different packagings of it on album,in the 70's.
They have done several other Argento films, and several other italian horror   
films. They also wrote <with Argento> the soundtrack to "Dawn Of The Dead", 
and that is easily obtained domestically. Most of their soundtracks are
available from Japan on CD, even "Deep Red".

				--Judex--
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: sotoa@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Alexander "Mystic" Soto)
Subject: Martial arts
Summary: FTP site of martial art movie information ?
Keywords: martial arts, kung fu
Organization: Clarkson University
Distribution: nworld
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:43:19 GMT

Hi,
	I'm new to this group, so forgive me if this is a faq, but I'd like
to know if any one knows of places where I can order martial art type movies.
I have looked all around and haven't found a place yet, except for every now
and then getting lucky at Ames.  Does anyone know of a mail order place?  I
even tried chinatown (in Boston), but only found movies without english
dubbing or subtitles.  Please respond to me thru e-mail.  I would appreciate
anybody's help!
	Thanks.
		Mystic

(sotoa@craft.camp.clarkson.edu)

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: JODIE FOSTER NAKED
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:48:35 GMT

donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:

>As I recall, Roman Polanski had to flee the country to avoid prosecution
>for Contributing to the delinquency of Minors <or whatever the crime would
>be, having sex with a succession of underage girls>. This was right around
>the time that "Tess" was released, and I thought that Kinski was one of the    
>females that he was in trouble for. I'll have to look it up to be sure.
>They have both admitted to their illicit romance in various interviews...

Polanski's scandal in the US was with a 13 or 14 year old girl, who he claims
got tipsy on champagne and quaaludes of her own accord and then "seduced"
him, then when she got home she and her mother got upset over it and they
pressed charges of statuatory rape. He left the US and I don't think he's 
come back since. He talks about this in his autobiography, _ROMAN_. Polanski's
latest wife is 20-30 years younger than him... in his latest film she stars
in it an plays a woman who gets raped beaten and abused. Anyway, Polanski's
problems were not with a string of underage girls and it had nothing to
due with Tess, which I think came a few years later. I don't think Kinski
was underage at the time.  

Woody Allen's going through some weird charges of molesting one of his 7 year
old adoptive daughters, and meanwhile he has professed his love for a 21
year old adopted daughter of his.  

BTW, I want to apologize for my personally directed remarks earlier on this
thread - I didn't mean to direct it so specifically as an acustation that 
the poster I was replying to was "wristing off", I meant to question the more
general motives behind why people are interested or even obsessed by looking
at naked little girls.   

- malcolm 
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: dasher@well.sf.ca.us (D Anton Sherwood)
Subject:  nudity, Tess, Polanski
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 19:37:38 GMT

In article <sbarnhar-210892095709@morril6t-4.micro.umn.edu> sbarnhar@mailbox.mail.umn.edu (Dr. Barnhart) writes:
>
>Poor Roman Polanski.  Chased out of the country for (statutory) rape, had
>his pregnant wife Sharon Tate sliced 'n' diced by the Manson family...

(I'm going to feel stupid -- I thought her husband was Jerzy Kosinski.)

Thanks for clearing up Nastassia Kinski's age at the time of Tess.  I was
sure TESS came after CAT PEOPLE, in which she sure didn't look underage (the
nude scene is the best part of that movie).
-- 
D Anton Sherwood *\\* dasher@well.sf.ca.us *\\* +1 415 664 2229
Libertarian candidate for California Assembly, 12th district
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: caruso@socrates.umd.edu (John Caruso)
Subject: Re: Tetsuo (_The Iron Man_)/Caligari
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:58:56 GMT

In article <168465E6E.DOBENSON@ua1vm.ua.edu> DOBENSON@ua1vm (Joe Demon) writes:
>donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>>I saw the <obscure and hard to find>
>>Japanese film "Tetsuo" <The Iron Man>. Obviously influenced by Lynch, with
>>a bit of Cronenberg, and Raimi, mixed in. Black and Whit again enhances
>>the films mood, and <much like Eraserhead> the film is non-synopsizable.
>>Check it out if you get the chance. A must-see!
>>
>Any idea what the old man and the soon-to-be-Ironman (near the end of
>the movie) are saying?

     I recently saw Tetsuo and I'd definitely recommend it to anyone
who knows what they're getting into.  It's a relentless, hyperkinetic
film, and you'll emerge from the theater feeling like you've been 
beaten into submission.  This is not the feel-good hit of the <your
season here>!  It's brutal and bloody and ugly, but powerful as well.

     I completely concur with the Eraserhead comparison--I've used
that as a reference when I've tried to describe Tetsuo to friends.
They carry the same visceral, disorienting effect.  But Eraserhead
is different in one major way:  it's excruciatingly boring.  During
some of the scenes I just sat there thinking, can this really be
happening?  Ok, Eraserhead sits on his bed--but for FIVE MINUTES!?!
ARRGH!  Non-linear is great, weirdness is fine, but stultifying 
boredom doesn't do it for me.

     So basically I tell friends that Tetsuo is like Eraserhead
on speed.  

- John

P.S. - The version I saw was dubbed, and yes, at the end they're
       talking about turning the entire world into metal...but
       the scene between Metal Fetishist and the old man was 
       pretty undecipherable.  Sorry!
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: smcneil@metro (Shannon McNeil)
Subject: Re: The Wall
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 04:44:39 GMT

From article <18AUG199222550745@apsicc.aps.edu>, by larson_s@apsicc.aps.edu (Shawn Larson):
> In article <Bt6yp8.63A@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tjz20735@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Tom Zych) writes...
>>schweitz@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Schweitzer (W86)) writes:
>> 
>>>Can anyone explain the ending of the movie "The Wall" (Bob Geldof) to me?
>>>As far as I understood it, Bob is trying to break through the wall that is
>>>surrounding him. At the end of the trial, the judge orders to 'tear down the
>>>wall'. Does this mean Bob's objective is archieved? I hardly think so, 
>>>"The Wall" isn't a movie to have a happy ending...


>> 
>>>Who does understand this movie?
>> 
>>I suspect that anyone who claims to fully understand "The Wall" either:
>> 
>>a) is lying, or
>> 
>>b) needs to be locked up in a comfortable rubber room.
>> 
>>Tom Zych   tjz20735@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>> 
> 
>  I've personally figured out most of it, but the part that I have absolutely
> no idea about is the part where he becomes a fascist leader.  Anybody have
> a clue on that one?

I always thought that was just part of his 'wall' which he is surrounded
by.  The wall wasn't only put there by his mother/wife/teachers etc., he
is hiding behind it.  Being a fascist, he can surpress all his human feelings
....or something like that.  

Listening to the words of The Trial (2nd last track I think)
may clear this up. 

Then again it probably won't.

> 
> 
> Shawn
> 
> 
> 

Shannon
From: wejohnso@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Wes Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Crispin Glover
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:36:53 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
 [speaking of Crispin Glover]

>Also, are you sure about WILD AT HEART? He was in WHERE THE HEART IS. Maybe
>both? 

In WILD AT HEART, Crispin played the cousin(?) of the Laura Dern Character.
He was only in a flashback. He was the guy that liked to walk around with
cockroaches in his underwear. Sick, Sick, Sick, but very cool.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: sbarnhar@mailbox.mail.umn.edu (Dr. Barnhart)
Subject: Kafka
Followup-To: alt.cult-movies
Organization: U of Mn Propoganda Ministry
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:57:50 GMT

Did anyone get a chance to see Steven Soderbergh's "Kafka"?  It's release
in Minneapolis was a little on the strange side.  I saw the previews for it
at the local art house, but the film actually ran for about three weeks at
a suburban multiplex, more known for showing a more pedestrian genre of
film.

I liked it a lot.  It seemed to be a real departure from "sex, lies &
videotape".  A little tough to pidegonhole Soderbergh based on those two
films.  The only real problem I had with it came at the end, when Irons'
Kafka character is in the castle.  Those scenes seemed too David Lynchish
for
my taste.

Shawn Barnhart ! sbarnhar@mailbox.mail.umn.edu
Phenylketonurics:  This product contains phenylalanine.
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: Re: The Adjuster
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:12:12 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <1992Aug20.202653.2345@bnr.ca> labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche) writes:


>I saw this movie and can't say I enjoyed it but was sitting on the edge
>of my seat wondering what strange things were going to happen next.  What
>a pal.  I can only hope my insurance adjuster is such a friendly guy.
>He kinda reminded me of George Bush(or most other politicians), patting 
>his insured on the back, putting them up in a hotel, screwing them,
>and smiling.

No, you don't get it.  He was taking care of their *every* need.
His sin, I believe was his neglect of his family.

-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Subject: (Lector understudies  was: Re: Raising Cain)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:58:39 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <1992Aug12.223735.25693@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> bchurch@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Robert Church) writes:

>In article <1992Aug12.155222.3252@bnr.ca> labiche@crchh561.BNR.CA (Maurice LaBiche) writes:
>>I saw this movie this weekend.  Mostly i liked it but some
>>of it was just so cheesy.  John Lithgow was great in it.  

>Was Lithgow considered for Silence of the Lambs? He seems to be
>going for the psycho character a lot lately. He looks like  someone
>trying to prove that he could have done Lector.

He might have been ok for the part.

I think Christopher Walken or Willem Dafoe would have been good alternates.
-- 
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From: quennevi@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nyarlathotep)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Eskimo (minor heathers spoilers...)
Date: 16 Aug 92 15:56:56 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Yet another Heathers post... I just saw Heathers again and
i don't know if it was the tape or my ears but i missed
some lines:

  1) what's the first line j.d. said to veronica at
     the snappy snack shack?
  2) what did j.d. say to veronica at the guys' funeral
     to make her laugh?
  3) what did heather (the green one.. shannon dougherty)
     say to veronica about martha dumptruck's suicide
     attempt.. something about suicide hot line and
     diapers?

Did you notice that veronica  was trying to put out
a match with her left hand the the remington party and
burnt her left hand with the car's cigaret lighter?
( that roughly correspond to the start of the killing
and the end of them for veronica) And that j.d. lighthed
his cigaret in veronica's hand and at the end veronica
lighted hers when j.d. blew up... (that was kind o' obvious)
Does that mean that they used each ohter's pain?   

well that's it,
--
=======================================================
 "J'ai le vertige quand je vois de petits enfants, non
  pas parcequ'ils me donnent de fortes emotions, mais
  bien parceque je suis tres grande."
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: montyb@alpha.aosg.gsf.dec.com (Monty C. Brandenberg)
Subject: Re: Wim Wenders filmography request (was Re: Until the End of the World)
Organization: AOSG
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 17:52:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.214953.14741@athena.mit.edu>, wildman@athena.mit.edu (Timothy Worsley) writes:
|> garrem@aix.rpi.edu (Matthew Olsen Garretson) writes:
|> 
|> >Anyway, I recently rented WINGS OF DESIRE, an absolutely fabulous movie. I was
|> >most taken by the first 3/4 of the film, which was beautiful and lyrical. The
|> >whole love thing seemed a bit trite, but I thought the film stood in spite of 
|> >it.
|> 
|> I didn't think it was trite.
|> 
|> I've never seen this flick on video and I never plan to.  *Maybe* if
|> it comes out on laserdisc letterboxed, but it still wouldn't be the
|> same.

And it was a necessary part of the film.  It's the physical aspects of the
world which entice the Angels into 'falling' into a mortal form.  And Peter
Falk, who seems like such an unlikely candidate for inclusion in a Wenders'
film, works so well...

Timothy, since you seem to be located in Cambridge, the Videosmith at 955
Mass Ave has 'Wings of Desire' on LD, I believe in letter box.  As the
Brattle had a Wenders fest a few months ago, there won't be much of a chance
of seeing it on a moviescreen in the near future.

|>	[ Various film lists deleted ]

There is a short film or films making the rounds about cities and clothing
designers.  I haven't had a chance to see it yet.

|> Of the three "angels" he dedicated it to, I've never been impressed
|> with Truffaut, I've heard good things but never seen anything by
|> Ozu... but Tarkovsky is probably my favorite director of all time (and
|> his influence on Wings of Desire is obvious).

|>	[ Later, someone posts about 'Tokyo ga' and Ozu's films...]

The later poster's comments on Ozu being a superb minimalist are right
on the mark.  In 'Tokyo ga', the difference between a shot with Ozu's
favorite lens (50mm, I believe) and one his cameraman recommended (a 40mm)
are shown.  The sensitivity and depth he achieves with so 'little' *is*
remarkable (Lucasfilm take note).

I posted this bit of information to alt.cyberpunk, I believe, but I'll
add it again here.  There are two collections of essays by Wenders published
in the US by Faber and Faber.  They are 'Emotion Pictures' and 'The Logic
of Film' (I may not have the latter correct).  He makes some interesting
observations on film making in general and in America in particular.  One
chapter consists of directors at Cannes answering the question 'Are Big
Screen films dying due to the influence of TV,' or something to that 
effect.  The answers given are such perfect reflections of the individual
directors...  If you like Wenders' work, I'd recommend these books.

					Monty
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: JODIE FOSTER NAKED
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 02:40:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.155416.15020@mips2.ma30.bull.com>  
longo@claude.ma30.bull.com (Leslie Longo) writes:
> In article <1992Aug11.181617.8786@wri.com> andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre  
Kuzniarek) writes:

<<My post about Siesta>>

> Ah yes, _Siesta_ !!
> 
> Now there's an odd flick....
> 
> L.

Yeah, it seemed to be a remake of _Carnival of Souls_, but the source was  
credited to a novel (which seemed like a recent one to me). A novelist  
imitating a strangely neat old film maybe?

Also mainly featured Ellen Barkin, I believe, and very nude. Never found  
her terribly interesting though...

AK

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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: _The Art of Heavy Metal: The Movie_
Summary: Can I retire when I sell this?
Organization: The Little Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:39:27 GMT

This is a little off the usual subject of this group, but the movie seems
popular around here so...

Does anyone know if there is any demand for the book in the Subject line?

Relevant details: published in 1981 by New York Zoetrope. Paperback.
ISBN 0-918432-38-3.

I have a friend that wants to buy it and I want to make sure I'm not
charging too little or too much. I seem to recall them being advertised
in the magazine forever so I don't imagine they're too scarce. 

Any relevant info is welcome. E-mail to lsmith@cs.umn.edu. Thanks.
--
 Lance "The Weasel" Smith  | "He which brings no hustle to this game
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  Let him depart; his waivers will be cleared,
  There were Giants in the |  And dollars of contract put into his wallet:
     Stick in those days   |  We would not play in that man's company"  Hrbek V
Xref: sparky alt.cult-movies:6713 rec.arts.movies:24629
From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies,rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dario Argento
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:29:19 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Followup-To: alt.cult-movies


   Since Argento has been mentioned, I'll take this oppurtunity to
ramble on for a bit about some of his stuff. I like most Argent films
("Opera" is my favourite - nothing will ever beat the bullet through the
peep hole murder!! -, "Inferno" is my least favourite). However, about a
year ago I saw "Two Evil Eyes" at a horror fest and was blown away buy
Argento's half of this Edgar Allan Poe 2-story movie (George Romero
directs the first half - The Case of M Valdemar - very poorly). Argento
directs "The Black Cat" segment which stars Harvey Kietel (sp?) as a
photographer whom the police indulge; letting him photograph the bodies
in some of their more bizarre murder case (and some of them are VERY
bizarre). What can I say? It was awesome. Typically ferocious and gory
in the usual Argento style, beautifully shot and packed with nice twists
in the plot (including the nastiest twist to Poe's original story that
anyone could ever dream up). I would highly recommend "Two Evil Eyes"
just for Argento's segment. It goes straight for the jugular as usual
and left me with my usual post-Argento-film mood: a real feeling of
futility and awareness that death is so easily inflicted.

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Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: JODIE FOSTER NAKED
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:32:06 GMT

>>I've seen the film and it is definately Ms Foster.  As for this supposed "law",
>>what about Brooke Shields in "Pretty Baby"?
>>
Pretty tasteless thread if you ask me... but anyway, Brooke was wearing a
body stocking in that film, not actually nude... 

Personally I'd suggest you folks go buy some real porno instead of fantasizing
over nude seens of teens... unless you're still in your teens yourself.  

  - malcolm
From: v081q3sw@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (John K Mrozik)
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
Subject: Crispin Glover
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:32:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Does anybody have a list of all the movies that Crispin Glover has
appeared in?  I saw him in 'BACK TO THE FUTURE' last night and he still 
astounds me.  I can think of 'WILD AT HEART' and 'RIVER'S EDGE' and
a little known teen-sex-romp flic titled 'MY TUTOR'.  Anyone have a complete 
list?
					psycho
Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Marvel Comics TV shows and movies
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 04:03:09 GMT

Dr. Strange was never more than a pilot TV movie.
Anyone have any info on the Human Torch movie/pilot CBS supposedly made?

				--Judex--

Newsgroups: alt.cult-movies
From: boris@math9.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (Boris Hemkemeier)
Subject: Subject: Re: Bis ans Ende der Welt (8+ directors cut)
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Bielefeld, Germany
	<BORIS.92Aug21151725@math9.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de>
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 17:35:07 GMT

   W.W. announced a 8+ h directors cut version of "Bis ans Ende der
   Welt" (at least for germany).

A lot of people want to get more information about it. A few weeks ago
i read it in a german magazine ("ULTIMO"). I look for the article and
post a more exactly statement.

Boris

--
			  "Say no to bugs!"
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