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From: houle@nmt.edu (Paul Houle)
Subject: Re: Hypnosis and the Soul
Organization: New Mexico Tech
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:45:43 GMT

In article <254.3473.uupcb@synapse.org> steve.crabtree@synapse.org (Steve Crabtree)  writes:
>
>This raises the point another poster made about the equivalence of
>different forms of trance. From the little I've read about Cayce, his
>trances seemed more like those of the spiritualist mediums of the time,
>spontaneous events rather than specifically induced ones? I'll check out
>whether the book is in my local library. Thanks for the suggestion.
>   

	I suspect that the kind of trance state that is developed by
hypnosis,  meditation and similar techniques is actually very strongly
metaprogrammed.  That is,  the person's experience and structuring of
the trance state will depend upon what he believes about hypnosis,  what
he's read about hypnosis,  what he's seen on TV about it and what the
hypnotist did in the induction.

	This is probably pretty similar to the kind of metaprogramming that
is involved with psychedelic drugs such as LSD.  When Albert Hoffmann took
LSD for the first time,  he had no reason not to believe that the experience
was going to kill him.  So,  he had a bad trip,  at least until he came to
believe that his survival as an individual unit wasn't all that relevant
to the cosmic flow and that he was probably going to make it anyway.  Today,
a person who takes LSD expects weird things to happen and brings in his
own metaprogamming that will control the experience and it's interpretation.
Monkeys universally have bad trips after eating psychedelic mushrooms,  as
evidenced by the fact that they will often get violent if you show them
mushrooms of any kind after they have been exposed to psylocybin-containing
species.  The point is that these substances were biologically evolved as
aversive agents against animals with nervous systems less sophisticated
than ours.  People can bring in metaprogramming that makes it a pleasant
experience.

--
From: curt@access.digex.com (curt williams)
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
Subject: Re: Self-hypnosis vs meditation
Date: 20 Dec 1992 21:17:20 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
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From: dlb@fanny.wash.inmet.com (David Barton)
Subject: Re: Hypnosis & psychosomatic reactions
Organization: Intermetrics Inc., Washington Division, USA
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 17:50:07 GMT

In article <1992Dec7.210057.430@nrc.com> Mike Goodglick
<mikey@nrc.com> writes:

   What she did was she started to rock in circles and then started
   chanting what sounded like satanic chants...(no kidding).
   Following that she started laughing uncontrollably & then
   immediatly following screemed a blood curdling screem that was so
   piercing the paint could peel off the wall.....I looked into her
   eyes & she was definatly NOT THERE.  After this, the hypnotist took
   her into a back room to try and calm her down.

   In the past four years he has been doing this show the
   reaction..(thou not this intense) has happen six times.  I was
   wondering what the hell causes this & is there anyway that you can
   tell that a psychosomatic reaction could occur before the induction
   is started???

I believe the appropriate term for this is "abreaction";
"psychosomatic" general refers to a bodily reaction or symptom brought
on by a mental belief or influence (seriously, not to be pedantic).

Abreaction is a possibility in any hypnotic induction, though
something like this is fortunately rare.  Pardon some jargon that I am
not sure I understand; however, this comes closest to explaining
things for me.  Repressed experiences or emotions can come to the
surface unexpectedly as part of a hypnotic induction, as unconscious
processes (which may be largely influenced by the repressed
experience).

There is no way to predict in all cases whether an abreaction will
occur.  Looking out for terminology oriented around a particular
subject is one indication.  Conflicting verbal / physical responses
(the patient saying "yes" while unconsciously shaking his or her head)
is an indication that some repression is taking place.

In fact, abreaction is not something to be avoided in a theraputic
situation; it can be a gold mine of information, and provide a lot of
opportunities for different procedures.  In any case, the thing to do
is to "back off" from whatever procedure you were doing, re-establish
rapport (lost rapport is a characteristic of abreactions), and start
from there when rapport has been re-established.

For a stage hypnotist, of course, it is an interference.  I have
little sympathy.

					Dave Barton
					dlb@hudson.wash.inmet.com
From: curt@access.digex.com (curt williams)
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
Subject: Hypnosis in Washington, DC / No. VA area
Date: 20 Dec 1992 18:51:19 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

Is anyone familiar with the Georgetown Hypnosis Center?  I would like
to use self hypnosis to enforce an exercise program and need a 
refreshed course.

Thanks for any info regarding to GHC or alternatives in or around DC
From: slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher)
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
Subject: Re: Neuro-Linguistic Programming (FAQ)
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:21:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

mas@porgy.jpl.nasa.gov (Marc A. Sarrel) writes:

>In article <1992Dec10.145850.17929@netcom.com> slf@netcom.com (Sharon Fisher) writes:

>   >NLP claims to be a treatment for a psychological disorder while

>   Does it?  NLP itself makes this claim?  How is it phrased in the brochure?

>Several NLP proponents on the net have claimed that they themselves
>have cured people of phobias using NLP.  That sounds like a claim to
>be a treatment for a psychological disorder to me.

It's quite a jump from 'phobia' to 'psychological disorder.'  Yes,
phobia is *a* psychological disorder, but only one of many.
Newsgroups: alt.hypnosis
From: johnlee@crash.cts.com (John Wiley)
Subject: Re: Info on self-hypnosis
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:49:05 PST

Still, I'd like to add a thought here.  Antonio noted that he'd read a
book, yet still seeks info due to lack of success.  When I tried to
learn this skill, I had a similar experience.  I read several books,
some of them good, yet still couldn't induce a trance.

In my experience, two things helped me progress.  First, I needed to
identify my own trance state.  I'd in fact achieved what I'd call a
moderate level of trance, but was expecting dramatic effects.  I'd
been trying to "reprogram" behaviors, and create instant changes.
While this is probably possible in a moderate state, a beginniner is
unlikely to manage it effectively.  So my suggestion is, practice.
Also remember that your subconscious may be taking care of you by not
accepting what may not be a well thought out suggestion.

Secondly, I went to an MD who practiced hypnosis for his help in
deepening my state.  This was well worth the cost of the two
sessions.  The toughest part of that decision for me, was trusting the
hypnotist.  Thus choosing an MD helped me somewhat.  I was very clear
with him that my goal was increasing my effectiveness with
self-hypnosis, and that I had no "problems" which he needed to cure.

I hope this is helpful.  I'd like to encourage anyone who's interested
in this skill, to pursue it.  I practiced for several years, and
gained greatly from it.

Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: gauss@cco.caltech.edu (Edward J. Gauss)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: UA codes, "FUCS"  (was dividends)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 12:31:56 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: alumni.caltech.edu

In article <1992Dec15.032909.8338@raven.alaska.edu> randy@raven.alaska.edu (Randy Hayman) writes:
>
>Can't tell from your name any specifics, but your electronic address is
>certainly Outside.
>
>Randy
>sxrmh1@orca.alaska.edu
>

Now Randy obviously is somehow associated with U/Alaska, the alaska.edu
tells us that.  But his second userid "sxrmh1" tells us that he is neither
a faculty member, nor a student, but somehow associated with the University's
statewide administration.  The coding goes something like this

       First letter:  Campus    A Anchorage, F Fairbanks, J Juneau,
                                   S Statewide (administration)
       Second letter:  Category   S student,  F faculty, A academic funded
                                   account, U unfunded academic accuount,
                                  X clerical, admistrative, H Research
                                   Assistant (?)   [I don't remember the 
                                     rest]
       The rest:  Name, initials, or department

I should know this code:  I invented it!  At that time one of the Research
Institutes had some extra time on the University's first time-sharing machine
and the Computer Center was brokering it about the state.  The main computer
was a batch, punched card input, IBM machine that was the greatest of 1960
technology.  

After I left the Computer Center, I was trying to set up a Computer Science
program making my department CS.  Without funds, my catagery was a U.  At
Fairbanks I had to be a F.  So the new managers of the newly formed 
Computer Network called me FUCS.  Really!  I am so glad I had a chance to
share that bit of Alaskana computereze with you.  Should anybody out there
remember those FUCS (and before) days, send me an email.

                          --Ed Gauss   (formerly FUCS)
From: 22-9702@wwiv.cojones.com (Opal Luna Saturnyne #22 @9702)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: dividends
Date: 19 Dec 92 08:23:07 GMT

> From: terrylee#bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Patricia M Currier) #199 @502
> 
> Last I checked, being out of state to go to school was still perfectly
> permissable. Least it better be. There aren't any other colleges besides
> just the state schools (I think. I couldn't find any.)

You mean besides Alaska Pacific University? Funny, the degree I got there
*seems* to be legitimate...


=> Magic is just science with an attitude. -Saturnyne
=> QWK'n'Dirty 1.1, Reader and terminal program in one! (registered)
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:17:59 CST
From: Susan M. Singler <U49654@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Dog Questions

Hi, here are some pointed questions about day to day problems concerning
dogs. Remember I live in the midst of 8 million people (Chicago area)

Do many cities or towns in Alaska have leash laws for dogs?
If there are leash laws, are they complied with?
Are there laws about picking up after your dog?
Or where you walk the dog?
Are dogs allowed inside anywhere besides your personal home?
Do many people have phobias about dogs? About over enthusiastic dogs?
Can dogs run loose to play, work, and get exercize, and do their
    business?
Will my very active 85 lb. Golden Retreiver freeze to death in the
    winter just going out to do her stuff?
Is it near impossible to rent if you have a dog, or cats?

--I live just outside of Chicago, Ill. in the Village of Oak Park.
The leash laws are strict, dogs are just not allowed off leash,
people are fined.  I pick up after the dog each time, and people
are fined if they don't (I would anyway because there are too many
of us people here -- and I want to be one less!)  Even in the forest
preserves the leash laws are in effect!  I actually was threatened
with a $150.00 fine one day (in winter yet, with NO ONE THERE BUT
ME, THE DOG AND A RANGER WHO FOUND US!)
I do believe in responsible dog ownership but enough is enough!  We
were nearly 2, I repeat, 2 miles from the nearest house!

Any insights will be appreciated.
Thanks, Sue Singler.
From: system@freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Tammy's quest for Alaska! 8-)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 10:18:02 AST
Organization: Radio Free Fredbox

brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady) writes:

> Mount Washington is the highest point in the Northeast and is in the White Mo
> range in New Hampshire. It hovers in the 6000 foot range as I remember. Nothi
> like the Sawtooth Range in Idaho or Denali (Western mountain ranges that I ha
> been to). Mt Washington does hold the record for the highest recorded wind 
> (over 200mph) -- probably cuz no one could stay up on a place like Denali to 
> record something faster! :-)

200+ winds on Denali are commonplace.. I don't know if they have any solid
figures, tho.



      Fred Polsky v1.0, who has been known to handle under George.
            "This is Usenet. Facts are irrelevant here."
 The Fredbox +1 907 344 8437  system@freds.cojones.com  Anchorage, Alaska
Sean "Bandwidth" Ryan's favorite BBS, with lots of neat texts and lunatics.
From: system@freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: living expenses, prices, etc
Date: 19 Dec 92 18:29:07 GMT
Organization: Radio Free Fredbox

2huxsilent@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

> I think I may be able to help out in the food price department.  When my wife

(list deleted)

The Anchorage prices seem slightly high... of course, while I currently work
at Carr's, my attention doesn't go very much beyond the floors.

But head lettuce is sold by the pound, not per head, and a case of Pepsi
never goes over $10 (12 packs taken together, however, can get way  up
there....)

> Of course these are August prices.  I know that milk here is now up to 2.45.
> I spent a summer in Anchorage and aim to end back up there sometime in my
> life, best place I've ever been.

Think Anchorage is good.. Lotsa even niftier places outside of the city (but
then, if you dig cities, Anchorage beats the hell out of a number of them..
Anchorage is still more of a small town with a big city attitude.)



      Fred Polsky v1.0, who has been known to handle under George.
            "This is Usenet. Facts are irrelevant here."
 The Fredbox +1 907 344 8437  system@freds.cojones.com  Anchorage, Alaska
Sean "Bandwidth" Ryan's favorite BBS, with lots of neat texts and lunatics.
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: adye@mail.boi.hp.com (Alan Dye)
Subject: Re: employment in Alaska
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:09:28 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]


Employment in Alaska:

South East:

Fishing, Timber, some mining, federal and local government jobs and
various infrastructure jobs.

Central:  (Anchorage Basin)

Timber, Fishing, Military, federal and local government, some oil, 
professional (med, law, engr, etc...) minor agriculture (dairy, some
field crops)

Interior:  (Fairbanks and surrounding area)

Didn't spend any time there...
Military, Federal and Local Government, some agriculture (delta barley proj.)
Education (U of A @ Fairbanks)



Bush Areas:

Didn't spend time there...
K-12 education, government...


Kenai Peninsula:

Didn't spend a great deal of time there, but... I sure loved it.  It
was the most beautiful area I've ever lived in (Seward).

**   

I am sure the above list is less than complete.  It's all I can remember
this morning.  One thing to note, even fishing and timber, require 
engineers, computer analysts, managers, etc...
--
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From: 22-9702@wwiv.cojones.com (Opal Luna Saturnyne #22 @9702)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re:Tammy's quest for Alas
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 09:25:02 GMT

> From: lib1p#rosie.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino) #100 @502
> 
> I'm one of those stupid people from the lower 48 (Texas of all places)
> that dreams of someday living in Alaska.  However, finding material and
> people to learn more is difficult.  The best book I have found was geared
> towards someone VISITING Alaska.
> 
> Could someone tell me what it's like living there.  I want personal 
> perspectives from several people.  This way I can get an idea of whether 
> or not this is REALLY what I want.

Well, first off, you might want to invest in a car with a decent, reliable
heater (speaking as the owner of a '67 Bug with a sometimes-functioning heater
that *always* slurps gas :-). Four wheel drive isn't essential, unless you
live up on the Hillside, but it's a good thing to have, from what I've heard
owners of such cars say (my car may be light enough to go off the road easily,
but it's also light enough to go back on the road easily :-). Get something
that you'll be able to plug in... you'll need it! Also, if/when you come up
here, you'll probably be happiest if you come up, say, around March or
April - it's the beginning of what passes for spring up here and you'll have
plenty of time to get acclimated before winter hits. But you won't really
need the heavy clothing until late fall... if you break out the down jacket
the first time the temperature dips below 20F (as several Californian
classmates did), you'll be *really* miserable once the serious cold starts.
One more thing... I'd advise that you either have employment already lined
up or a substantial amount in savings built up...there are a lot of folks
who just uproot themselves and head on up here, and then find themselves
broke in a strange place. Living in a car here isn't too bad during the
summer months, but highly inadvisable during the winter (this is another way
in which that reliable heater comes in handy :-).


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From: jsdph@acad3.alaska.edu (Dennis P. Harris)
Subject: Re: UA codes, "FUCS"  (was dividends)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:40:00 GMT

In article <1gn7jsINNoba@gap.caltech.edu>, gauss@cco.caltech.edu (Edward J. Gauss) writes...
>In article <1992Dec15.032909.8338@raven.alaska.edu> randy@raven.alaska.edu (Randy Hayman) writes:
>>
>statewide administration.  The coding goes something like this
> 
>       First letter:  Campus    A Anchorage, F Fairbanks, J Juneau,
>                                   S Statewide (administration)
>       Second letter:  Category   S student,  F faculty, A academic funded
>                                   account, U unfunded academic accuount,
>                                  X clerical, admistrative, H Research
>                                   Assistant (?)   [I don't remember the 
>                                     rest]
>       The rest:  Name, initials, or department
> 
>I should know this code:  I invented it! 

and you've forgotten some of it --- S is undergraduate student, T is graduate
student, X is systems personnel, not clerical (that's N --- for all admin
staff), Z is outside funded accounts, R is for school districts that use
UACN mostly for email.  there are also a bunch of first letter codes for all
the community college campuses, but this could get too long...

i remember the old honeybuns, too, with its pessimizing (as opposed to
optimizing) compilers.  the C precompiler had no #ifneed, so you compiled the
enter function library on a 3 line "hello, world" program.  and maybe 4k of
permanent disk space per student, so you could never save executables or write
meaningful programs.  i was fortunate to start back to school full time just
as the vaxen arrived...

(formerly jxdph)
================================================================================
dennis p. harris				  bitnet: jsdph@acad3.alaska.edu

  "The nation that controls magnetism controls the Universe." --- Diet Smith
================================================================================
From: lib1p@jane.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: type of wilderness around major cities
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:02 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Since when we move to Alaska we will probably move in or near a major
city, I have found that I must ask this question.

What is the land like around the major cities?

For example, here in Houston it is pretty flat.  To the north of the city
you start to get into what they call the thicket because of the dense
wood.  To the south there are few trees because you are approaching the
coast.

Tammy

Xref: sparky alt.culture.alaska:174 alt.culture.alaska:175
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 12:39:00 CST
From: Susan M. Singler <U49654@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska,alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Dog Questions More.

Hi, I have no idea what just got posted from me because of computer
and inexperience problems!  If any of my post on dog questions got
out I will appreciate any answers and insights.  And if the post
was missing a blurb on responsible dog ownership--here it is again,
I understand about responsible dog ownership but enough is enough!

Thanks everyone, I will eventually learn how to post better.

From Sue Singler
Univ. of Ill. at Chicago
Future Alaska resident!
From: 22-9702@wwiv.cojones.com (Opal Luna Saturnyne #22 @9702)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Tammy's quest for Ala
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 08:24:08 GMT

OS-D.ISC-BR.COM (H. MARC writes:

> >Rather than refer to "The Continental 48 States" (a misnomer -- Alaska is on
> >the North American continent), or the contiguous 48 states, I simply say
> >"America". 
> 
> How about calling them the "Conterminous States", meaning being contained
> within a common boundary?

Or perhaps (more or less frivolously) the "Contemptuous States"? Uh...never
mind. Guess I'm thinking of a different discussion on the subject elsewhere.


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