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From: jimd@m2xenix.psg.com (Jim Dorman)
Subject: Jugglin' On The Lake:  The Information YOU Need!
Organization: Pacific Systems Group, Portland Oregon US
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 20:44:10 GMT

Yes folks, it's time once again to remind you all about one of the very 
few, and therefore very noteworthy, juggling festivals in the Pacific North-
west.  This one is next weekend in the beautiful San Jan Islands.  So here
it comes:

What:	Jugglin' On the Lake, a Celebration of Juggling & Life
When:  October 2,3,4
Where:  Lopez Island, WA (see below for directions)
Who:   You, your friends, your enemies, everyone!

Gory details:  The festival will be in high gear on Saturday.  Come in on
Friday, there will be folks there.  Planned activities include:

	-workshops and demonstrations
	-salmon bake/potluck on Sat. night
	-public show if there's enough interest
	-special late-night surprises NOT for the faint of heart!

Housing:  Please bring camping gear, as there is almost no house-type crash
space available.  Camping is free, of course.

Meals:  Please bring food for Saturday night's dinner to share, and/or donations for the food fund.  Dinner on Sat. will be a potluck featuring fresh Alaskan
salmon and halibut.  Yum!

Directions:  From anywhere, get north of Seattle about 40 miles and follow
the signs to Anacortes.  When you get to Anacortes, follow all signs to 
the San Juan Islands Ferry.  Then read the next paragraph.

Ferries:  This is on an island, so the only way to get there is on the ferry.
For ferry info., call 1-800-84-FERRY.  There is also 72-hour parking available
in Anacortes at the ferry terminal, so if you don't have a lot of stuff please
consider parking and being a walk-on passanger.  Rides will be available from
the ferry terminal on Lopez.

If you're driving:  Get off the ferry @ Lopez and follow the signs, or ask
soemone how to get to the Steckler place.  Everyone will know, I promise.
Hopefully, signs will be up marking the way from the dock to the festival.

More info.:  Call Stecklers at 206/468-2138.  For a ride from the Portland
area, call me at 503/359-8429 (sapce is limited and I'm going up early
Friday, but I've still got room).

If you know you're going, PLEASE RSVP to me by mail or phone so we can get
a guestimae of how many people to expect.  See you there!


Jim the Juggler, a.k.a.:  jimd@m2xenix.psg.com


Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: femanrs@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (BRUCE MANNERS)
Subject: Fall Back To Akron Juggling Fest
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  6 Oct 1992 09:23 EST  

The annual Fall Back To Akron Juggling Fest will be taking place
October 10, 1992.

If there is interest I can post information on location and other details.

Bruce

**************************************************************************

Bruce Manners                                          Juglito, ergo sum

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From: portante@univer.enet.dec.com (DTN 235-8372 / (508)635-8372 / MS DSG1-2/E6)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Where and when does the MIT juggling group meet?
Keywords: MIT, Juggle
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:31:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd.1992Oct5.183131.1156
Reply-To: portante@univer.enet.dec.com (DTN 235-8372 / (508)635-8372 / MS DSG1-2/E6)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I understand that on Sunday's at 3:00pm was their meeting time.  If that is
wrong, or somebody knows more, any help would be appreciated.
--
Name:    Peter A. Portante
E-Mail:  portante@hannah.enet.dec.com
Phone:   508.635.8372
Address: MS DSG1-2/E6
         Digital Equipment Corporation
         4 Technology Park Drive
         Westford, MA  01886
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: thomasl@silver.ucs.indiana.edu ((thomasl))
Subject: FESTIVAL ANNOUNCED
Summary: This message costs hundreds if not thousands
Keywords: Fun, Fun, Fun, Fun, Fun, Fun, Fun, Fun, Fun, Juggling
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:35:24 GMT

******* FIRST POSTING*******DETAILS TO FOLLOW********DIRECTIONS LATER*********
******************************************************************************
We SNEERED at your fest 
come and return the favor!
We PAID at your fest
come and juggle for free!
Heck, we'll pay YOU to attend

Announcing another damned local juggling fest
but this time
it's Bloomington!

The frost is on the pumpkin
mark your calender now because
Halloween closes fast, kiddies, and Bloomington is THE place to be
Devil Stick    Diabolo  other scary props

Trick or Treat!!!!
Tricks (you got 'em, we do, too)
and 
Treats (we've got 'em, come and get 'em, treats of the gods!)

The International Euro-style Bloomington Halloween fest is ON
two big days
one smallish building
no organization
October 31 and November 1st

FEATURING:

-- The greatest raffle in the whole wide juggling world
including:
a unicycle 
5 genuine todd smith silicone balls 
many clubs 
and 
other prizes too nebulous to mention
-- A clean smooth floor
-- More hyperbole than you can shake a devil stick at

You may whine about the size of the building, but NOONE will be
complaining about the admission, because...
IT'S FREE!!!!!!!!
and worth every penny
(or your admission cheerfully refunded)

Prizes galore! Fun! Games! Free massages! Special exhibitions!
Oddities and Strange stuff!  Weird Characters! Friends of yours!
The juggling tshirt to end all shirts, the last one you will EVER
need to buy! Congenial Hosts! Convivial Companionship! 

Special Guests and Attractions:
You, our juggling friends
(and you know who you are)
All welcome! One and all!
Spread the word far and wide!

Note: email if you are attending, and you may be added to the next posting
as a special guest and attraction

Also -- Do you need accomadations?  Let us know.  We can be very accomadating.

Other note: the bobbing for bowling balls game has been CANCELLED.
(We regret any inconveniance this may cause)

Nestled amongst the rolling hills of southern Indiana, 50 miles south of
Indianapolis, the Bloomington area is noted for it's breath-taking fall
foliage, and natural beauty.  

See Bloomington in air-conditioned comfort--
guided bus tours available of sights of interest, including the site of moocow,
dunn meadow, the studio, and the foamin' bucket.

*********STAY TUNED FOR FURTHER INFORMATION*************



Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: mohit@eos.ncsu.edu (mohit bhatnagar)
Subject: Re: Where to get juggling videos?
Originator: mohit@surya.psrc.ncsu.edu
Keywords: video tape cassette
Reply-To: mohit@eos.ncsu.edu (mohit bhatnagar)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 22:55:43 GMT


Hi. there have been couple of requests for a list of juggling videos and
books. I think it would be of great value for some of us who don't have
access to all those great jugglers who can show/teach us new tricks. I am
willing to compile a comprehensive list of videos and books.  Only
problem is that I do not have as much info and details plus personal
opinions as some of you are certain to have. so please be nice and dare
to share all the books and tapes that you can think of. possible useful
info could include (albeit, not limited to)

Source of the tape e.g. IJA tape etc.  I have list of all the tapes that
can be bought thru IJA, Dube but your opinions would still be useful

type of material included e.g.instructional, as opposed to a tape of
some great juggling performances

place where it can be bought from, price.

and most importantly, what do you think of it. is it really worth its price???

and please do not ignore this since if we do not have a FAQ related to
juggling videos/books, in all the years to come,
people will keep on besieging you with requests like this 

mohit

ps: as a starter, Mr. Dar-Woon would you send me info (e-mail please)
for the video that you just watched "Who? Me? Juggle?"..
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: amorgan@csd-d-3.Stanford.EDU (Crunchy Frog)
Subject: Re: Clubs
Originator: amorgan@csd-d-3.Stanford.EDU
Keywords: mickey mouse, norphins or trolls?!?!, spiderman rules.
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organizatoin
Distribution: all who care
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:02:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.030449.26448@newshost.unh.edu> 
  efk@kepler.unh.edu (Edward F Keisling) writes:

>ok, i am looking to buy clubs and would like some advice :)
>
>so, IYHO, what should i get?  what is the difference between Dube europeans
>and todd smith europeans?  what are the tood smith european satellites?
>i would like to make this a one time investment!!!

The difference between TS and D europeans is small enough that I have
seen people get their clubs all mixed up and have difficulty sorting
them out again. The European satellites are (I think) very flashy but 
rather expensive clubs.  You probably don't want to get anything that 
unusual as you won't find too many others around who have them so 
passing could be a problem.  In general it is probably wise to get
what other jugglers in your area have.  Failing that, I recommend the
simple, basic, popular european style.  If you are the rebelious type
you can go for day-glo Renegade (high fashion strikes the juggling world).

If the choice is between TS and D, I guess you have to go with TS 
(assuming he is still offering the net discount).  I haven't ever
bought anything from him, but others have and have been satisfied.

>thanks in advance!!!!!! :)

Oh, IMHO a "one time investment" is a little unlikely.  My clubs are
fairly beaten up after about 2-3 years.  You will likely be buying
clubs for the rest of your life.

>  Edward F. Keisling 			"Time flies when you don't know what

C Frog
From: 71035.525@CompuServe.COM (David J Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
Subject: Records
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:36:19 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University


Yes it took me a long time.  Yes I moved.  Yes my computer address
has changed.  But let's just THANK GOD that the new version has finally
been completed.  I don't care that there wasn't that much activity.
The fact is:  it's here,  it's up to date,  and it's begging for more
talent to fill it's huge listings.

What is this marvelous thing?    It's the Record Book.
The new record book is here! The new record book is here!
Rah Rah Rah and all that....

The most active participant since the last version was Grinnell College.
Some shaker cup tricks were added to the list.  The club I am now
a member of, The Coconut Grove Juggling Exchange, has now joined the record
list.  Unfortunately we don't have any place to juggle anymore due to 
Hurricane Andrew which hit right where we usually meet. What a mess!

Anyway,  have fun pouring over the listing.  If you havn't seen this
before and you want to get involved then let me know.  I have some
text describing what you need to do to get your clubs records on the
list.  I'll send it to you at your request.

Warning!  My following posting is HUGE!

David J. Ward     Record keeper but not holder.
71035.525@Compuserve.com
Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
Newsgroups: rec.juggling
From: jpk@freddy.inmos.co.uk (Jeremy Kirkwood)
Subject: 4-ball Half Shower
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:20:57 GMT


	Can anyone offer any helpful hints and tips on doing a 4-ball
half-shower (53 in site-swap). I can't seem to get it going at all - I'm
pretty solid on the standard 4-ball fountain and can put in tricks like
single cross-overs (552) but I can't seem to get the timing right for the
53 type tricks. Is it just that the '5' has to be much higher than the '3'
or is there something inherently hard about these sort of tricks?

	I've looked at the help file for 4-balls on the archives on moo-cow
but it was a bit thin, so any comments would be gratefully received.

-- 
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
+        Jeremy Kirkwood          Phone: (0454) 616616 Ext. 360 +
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
+ jpk@inmos.com | jpk@uk.co.inmos | JEREMYK@brb.isnet%inmos.com	+
+ Inmos Ltd, 1000 Aztec West, Almondsbury, Bristol, BS12 5SQ UK	+
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
+                 Look out! There are Llamas!                   +
+---------------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Subject: Re: Cruis'N Carry Outboard
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 20:56:28 GMT

>>> I have a ten year old version of the above outboard which needs some
>>> serious maintenance. .......

Best bet... ...pitch it to the sharks. Cruis'N Carry motors are utter
junk when new (example, the ferrous metal exhaust pipe rusts to nothing).
 
Those bastardizations of weed-eaters are inefficient, noisy, unreliable,
and gulp fuel out of all proportion to their power output. I can't 
imagine getting value out of it which is consistent with the costs
of repair.
 
Greg (who had one, and invoked West Marine's money-back guarantee)
From: bsmith@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Brian Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: tailpipe underwater question
Date: 25 Sep 92 19:41:58 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO

In rec.boats, wwalker@qualcomm.com (Bill Walker) writes:

     and lots of folks who couldn't back
    a trailer into a hole the size of the Grand Canyon.

Hm.  Seems like that is one skill that I do not wish to acquire:-)

Having said that, I suppose I had better add my
fancy-me-being-that-stupid tale.

To discourage casual theft of my outboard that I leave permanently on
my sailboat, I fasten a length of anchor chain around the engine and
padlock it to the cross bar of the trailer just under the stern of the
boat. . . .

Surely you don't want me to embarras myself by being any more
explicit!  Well, do you?

B.S!
Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: dmb@IEDV4.acd.com ( Dave Barker )
Subject: Re: Messing About the Chesapeake
Organization: Applied Computing Devices, Inc., Terre Haute IN
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:41:26 GMT

In article <BvEB41.42@news.udel.edu> iseman@ravel.udel.edu (Stephen Early) writes:
>In article <lcgdv2INNf2g@cronkite> billc@sextant.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
>>
>>I'm finally going to attend the Annapolis Boat Show next
>>week.
>
>Does anyone have the particulars on the Boat Show like dates, times, and if
>there is an admission charge??
>
>Steve

	The dates are Oct. 9, 10, 11 and 12. October 9th is "VIP"
	day and it costs about $20 or so to get in this day. (I'm 
	not sure what VIP day is...)
	I think the admission for the other days is about $10 if
	you buy tickets at the gate.

						Dave


From: wtjones@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Bill Jones)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:53:30 GMT
Subject: SF Bay Challenger Class?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.boats

Is there a racing (beer can, or scotch bottle) class for Columbia
Challenger 25 in the SF Bay area?  

By the way, incredible sailing on the weekends for the last month!!!


Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: mwhhlaw!tim (Timothy E. Hollingsworth)
Subject: Re: Ships Bell Clock
Reply-To: uunet!mwhhlaw!tim
Organization: Martin Wade Hartley & Hollingsworth
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 12:44:23 GMT

In article <1ab1cqINNsjk@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> am339@cleveland.Freenet.Edu  
(Michael J. Logsdon) writes:
> 
> I want to buy a striking ship's bell clock.  It seems that
> Chelsea #40033 is a good choice, and West Marine seems to have
> the best price at $245.  Does anyone have experience with this
> model, or offer other suggestions?  Quartz, please.
> 
> Mike Logsdon   am339@cleveland.freenet.edu   Stratagem C&C 38

Also, does anyone know where you can get a 24 hour clock (you know 0000 to  
2400)
It may be old fashion, but I still navigate in "Navy" time.

--
Tim Hollingsworth
From: keith@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Keith Hawkins)
Subject: Annapolis Boat Show details?
Organization: Bell Communications Research (Bellcore)
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 13:08:01 GMT


Hi,

I'm a relatively new boat owner and would
like to know details about the Annapolis boat show.

Here are the specific questions I have (but any
other useful information would also be appreciated.)


1) It runs from October 8 through 12th, correct???
   (Don't want to show up after the party's over!!)

2) Where in annapolis is it held?? A convention
   center or something???

3) How are the prices on equipment like VHF, Lorans
   winches, etc.  ??   Can you do better at the boat
   show than through a catalog??  Or are the prices
   roughly the same??


4) Are any days particularly better to go??  I.e. is the
   last day as good as the first or do the exhibits start
   to thin out toward the end??


Thanks in advance for any info.

-Keith



Newsgroups: rec.boats
From: guido@blink.att.com (Guido Bertocci)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: So much for Danielle
Date: 29 Sep 92 15:37:32 GMT
Organization: AT&T

ecf_stbo@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Feet...!? You had FEET?) writes:

>In article <guido.717685173@sparc-3>, guido@blink.att.com (Guido Bertocci) writes...
>>It was actually SUNNY for most of the afternoon on Saturday with
>>10-12 knots of breeze.  We were able to trapeze all weekend
>>with a few good spinnaker trapezing reaches.

>My partners (not the kind on the deck at the mast) went down to west river.
>They had seven boats in the 470 fleet. They said on saturday the wind was
>somewhat light, noone trapezing. They were also able to get five races in over
>the weekend. I had a pretty boring weekend with no sailing whatsoever.

One of the occasional benefits to being in more open water.  The wind
shifted around to about 190-195 so what we were seeing in Annapolis
was partly due to a seabreeze (should we say bay breeze).
From: joel@ssd.intel.com (Joel Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Catalina 30 (WAS: Request for advice ... Cruising sailboats)
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:43:36 GMT
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.

In article <1992Oct5.202421.13658@netcom.com> greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
>In article <1992Oct5.174755.9275@rsd0.rsd.dl.nec.com> dave@rsd.dl.nec.com (Dave Rogers) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct5.022701.4839@netcom.com>, greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough) writes:
>>|> True on both counts. The Catalina 30 has "worn well" in a number of
>>|> different ways; the boats themselves seem to be standing up quite
>>|> well over the years, and the design seems to be holding up.
>>
>>This especially true of older Cataline 30s.  However, since 1986 the
>>Cataline 30 has the highest incidence of owner problem reports of *any
>>boat* sold in the US according the the Coast Guard.  Most of the complaints 
>>about the Catalina 30s have to do with blistering. 
> 
>On the other hand, there is *no excuse* for osmotic blistering in newer
>boats. The causes and cures are well-known, and relatively easily applied
>during manufacturing. Particularly in Southern California!
>
>I'm really sorry to hear this. I'd always thought of Catalina as a company
>where you got what you paid for and just a little bit more.
>Many manufacturers warranty against blisters for many years after the
>date of manufacture. Which does a world of good if they go bankrupt, but
>you know.
> 
>Greg

I own a Catalina 42 that was built in December 1989.  It stays in the water
year around in the Puget Sound, Washington State, (USA) except for 4-5 days
each year when it gets the hull power washed and repainted. As of last week
there have never been any blisters.  Our purchase of this boat new included
a 5 year warranty against blisters.  I figure Catalina has as good a chance
of being around for 5 years as any other sailboat builder(maybe better).

joel clark
From: ercn72@festival.ed.ac.uk (R.J.Hare)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: liveaboard sailboats
Date: 26 Sep 92 09:48:17 GMT

Ketches are surely *easier* to handle than sloops? For the same sail area, you
have more sails (foresail, mainsail and mizzen), so the area of each sail is
less - smaller sails are easier to handle...

Also, the mizzen allows ketches to manouvre (sp?!) in tighter places than
sloops, eg: backing the mizzen to slide the stern into a short gap alongside
the quay while mooring. This works - I've seen good skippers (not me, I'm not
that good!) do things with a 30 ton, 70 foot ketch you wouldn't believe.

The mizzen can also be left up overnight when in an anchorage and will keep
the boat head to wind which usually makes for a nice comfortable nights sleep.

I think some guru somewhere has decreeed that the ideal live-aboard boat
is a ketch in the high-thirties/low-fourties length range.

Oh yes, if you can manage  it, it should be steel.

Roger Hare.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 17:13:53 EDT
From: Karl Nordstrom <KXN2@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: liveaboard sailboats

In article <26270@castle.ed.ac.uk>, ercn72@festival.ed.ac.uk (R.J.Hare) says:
>I think some guru somewhere has decreeed that the ideal live-aboard boat
>is a ketch in the high-thirties/low-fourties length range.

>Oh yes, if you can manage  it, it should be steel.

Why steel?
From: dave@rsd.dl.nec.com (Dave Rogers)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Shortwave radio/recieiver
Keywords: ship-to-ship, ship-to-shore conversation
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:38:40 GMT
Organization: BINJFBA Society

In article <1992Oct2.163941.20882@phri.nyu.edu>, roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith) writes:
|> dave@rsd.dl.nec.com (Dave Rogers) writes:
|> >Frequencies are in 0.01 hertz (one hundredth of a hertz, as required by
|> >my R-5000 database)
|> 
|> Uh, are you sure you don't mean *kilo* hertz?

You're right, of course, momentary brain fade :-)

===============================================================================
Dave Rogers                    				       
M & R Software, Inc.
Internet:   dave@rsd.dl.nec.com
On contract to: NEC America, Radio Software Dept

Don't take life too seriously; you're not going to get out of it alive anyway.
From: ercn72@festival.ed.ac.uk (R.J.Hare)
Newsgroups: rec.boats
Subject: Re: Cold-Molded hulls
Date: 29 Sep 92 08:05:09 GMT

Oh, yes, I forgot. Cold moulded hulls are also supposed to be light cf similar
sized wooden hulls (no internal structures, ribs, etc.). Also, they are
supposed to be roomy for thir size (no space taken up by aforementioned ribs,
etc.).

Roger Hare.
Newsgroups: rec.boats

In rec.boats, dsmith@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (David R. Smith) writes:

    I'm no artist, nor even an artiste, but I guess I'll give it a shot.
.............
      It forms two interlocking
    overhand knots.

Great diagram, David.  I tried it and it worked.  

B.S!
Newsgroups: rec.boats