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From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: In (partial) defense of Rikiya Asano
Date: 25 Jan 93 16:05:14 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.


=> In article <RHB.93Jan22220041@world.std.com> 
=> rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner) writes:
=>
=> >I think if he was a Caucasian spouting racist
=> >invective against Nihonjin, you would be screaming for his head too.

In article <1993Jan23.072522.11639@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, 
hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
=> No, no -- you simply don't understand!
=> And there's no need to try me with such a hypothetical (I hope :-)
=> character to see that.
=> Just observe the way others react to him, that with decency and restraint
=> (Bill Lambert immediately comes to mind, but of course there are many more).

Thanks for your kind words, but sometimes apathy might look like
decency and restraint. I decently restrain myself from getting
involved in Rikiya's world whenever possible. 

- Bill 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Help Needed...
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:29:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.084440.3263@peanut> andym@bvc.edu writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.023529.26594@til.til.com>, tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka) writes:
>> One place you might try, (for information if for nothing else) is JUNET.
>>	...
>>    Contact:
>>      Jun Murai
>>      WIDE Project
>>      Keio University
>
>Good one.  I have tried to write Mr. Murai-kamisama on a number of 
>occassions asking for help; never, NEVER have I ever received any sort of 
>reply.

Well, knowing him personally, I'm rather inclined to defending him:
It's similar to asking the US President about your visa status.
After all, he is a busy man (admittedly, not that punctual :-).

As I hear, "famous" people like Ed Feigenbaum have a dedicated
secretary to handle email (which easily sums up to piles of printout),
and don't go through them personally (or have secret accounts, perhaps?).

It's not a good idea (and perhaps even uncourteous) to ask those
people about trivia, like network connection.

-YH
From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: rikiya asano
Date: 28 Jan 93 22:21:34 GMT
Organization: RAND

In article <1k9ifjINN4b5@shelley.u.washington.edu> yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
>luke@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Luke) writes:
->I thought I could take it, but I'm admitting defeat.  If anyone has a copy
->of the "how to make a kill file" post that circulated a few weeks back,
->please send me a copy.

>I think the problem with Luke-san and many other netters is that
>they are too conscientious, feeling obligated to read every 
>article from the beginning to end.  As for me ("boku wa" :-), I just
>"n" the article if it looks uninteresting and be happy with it.

Yup.  Even better, use "K", or whatever command your newsreader uses
to kill a thread.  Some of the most read-worthy folks on USENET still
get caught up in flamewars, and even the lunatic fringe occasionally
says something worthwhile.  So blow away the flamage and not the
flamer...

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand.org
From: axolotl@socs.uts.EDU.AU (Iain Sinclair)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: In Defense of Ringworm
Date: 25 Jan 1993 20:08:29 +1100
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Reply-To: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au

cmort@NCoast.ORG (Christopher Morton) writes:
 >Hardly.  He posts endless variations on racism and xenophobia.  He makes
 >death threats.  We Rikiko bashers on the other hand CRITICIZE these things.

R. Asano provides some useful stimuli to this newsgroup.  On the other hand,
Asano-bashers are just fucking wastes of space.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Racial Discrimination in Hiring English Teachers
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:36:13 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: locusts.berkeley.edu

       ^^^^^^
       I hope this was intentional. It's one of the best puns I've seen in
       this newsgroup.

Totally unnecessary, man.  yet another posting to scare women out of the 
newsgroup.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: aijuin@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Akira Ijuin)
Subject: Re: Speaking of Y. MIshima
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 04:14:18 GMT

ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:

>> Do you know that you may have committed the unforgivable sin? By

>>>"Sin"?  What's that...?

>When that fire and brimstone hits yo' Black ass you'll know what sin is
>then.  I bet you that!

Oh man....I really did want to keep myself from ever responding to Rikki's
postings ever again....But no, he keeps trying and trying, and he finally
got me.  Now what is this SHIT about yo' Black ass?  Let me tell you this.
Yo' stupid ass will be vaporized if you ever say that to ANYBODY's face in
an argument.  But then, yo' BALLS are too small to let you do that anyways.
And yo' academic history will be good for jokes when yo' ass find itself a 
joan's own understanding 
>is  God. No wonder you feel that if the Law doesn't catch you when you
>do wrong there is no consecquence.  There is no such thing. There is a
>life of which we all have after our time ends here. There no's , I CAN
>DO ANYTHING I WANT BECAUSE WHEN I DIED ITS ALL OVER.  It ain't over and
>ain't no fat lady gonna sing. But, there will a song and you will be the

Hmmm....I seem to have suddenly lost the power to respond.....

>singer. And you'll sing ,  Lawd, Lawdy, Lawd, lawd! Plessse git mah
>Black ass out o' dis fire! I ma sorry Lawd! I ma sorry! Plessse git mah
>Black ass  o' dis fire! But,  it'll be too late! So,  you should start
>to re-eamine your ideas about this issue and be kind and considerate to
>others.  

Hmm....do I see a contridiction here, or am I just viewing Rikki's postings
with prejudgements?  It seems like an individual who should re-EXAMINE his
ideas and be kind and considerate to others is telling his critic (if he
doesn't appear to be a critic tss in to the world as we know it.

>Well,  I have to go now. But, I be back!

Is this your way of imitating the way some (yes, some.  I didn't say all)
African Americans talk, or are you REALLY bad with English grammar?

Akira Ijuin
From: tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: HDTV in Japan
Date: 22 Jan 1993 11:28:49 GMT
Organization: unaffiliated
NNTP-Posting-Host: gibdo.engr.washington.edu

In article <VBoRXB4w165w@batpad.lgb.ca.us> larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield) writes:
>I know that there is currently sat-broadcast HDTV in Japan, but I'm 
>wondering... it seems that the (US) FCC will pick an American 
>standard for HDTV that is different than the Japanese standard 
>(because the Japanese standard is old and uses analog, where the 
>standards proposed are digital).  Has there been anything in the 
>Japanese papers or trades about what might happen if (when) the US 
>picks a different standard? Will Japan still stay with the old 
>standard or is there a move towards a global standard?

No global standardization is likely, but Japanese researchers at NTT
are working full bore on a fully digital standard called Super High
Definition (SHD) which will be incompatible with everything: the US's
new digital HDTV, Japan's own analog HDTV, and good old NTSC.
Consumers in Japan are not being told that HDTV is already scheduled
for replacement with SDH because it could hurt HDTV sales (I got this
out of a Nomura market analysis). In fact, despite what you hear,
Nomura at least was fairly impressed with the technology being
researched by the US but questioned our insistence on backward
compatibility with NTSC. We shall see. Anyone taking bets that the
Japanese adopt our standard in the end?

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tad Perry      Internet:    tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu
               CompuServe:  70402,3020
               NIFTY-Serve: GBG01266
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tlai@cs.toronto.edu (Tony W H Lai)
Subject: Re: HDTV in Japan
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:16:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.065340.14310@gibdo.engr.washington.edu> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu (Tad Perry) writes:
>In article <93Jan24.151256est.47623@neat.cs.toronto.edu> tlai@cs.toronto.edu (Tony W H Lai) writes:
[stuff deleted]
>>... One thing I found particularly annoying was
>>the pre-recession talk on what I call the HDTV domino theory: if a country
>>"lost" HDTV, its entire economy would be destroyed.  Such talk seemed to
>>always be accompanied by wildly optimistic projections for HDTV and pleas
>>for government money.
>
>Maybe this part is a more interesting discussion. I follow the argument
>about why HDTV is an important future technology, but I myself don't
>buy it completely.
>
>The claim is that whoever controls this technology will make
>mega-bucks off of every tv set and computer monitor sold throughout
>the world. It seems reasonable on the face of it, but it seems a pretty
>large leap to only go from near-photo quality resolutions to photo
>quality resolutions.
>
>Specifically, Nomura claimed that home entertainment systems (driven
>by the demand for movie theater quality picture) and DTP applications
>(requiring the ability to display little tiny letters that still look
>like little tiny letters) would somehow drive HDTV technology into
>homes and offices around the world. Do you have specific reasons why
>these demands don't make HDTV a critical future technology? (Even one
>supposedly relating to defense?)

HDTV isn't a single technology, but involves a variety of technologies, and
there are many different issues that relate to HDTV, such as display
technology, signal processing, media, production standards, broadcast
standards, software, applications, and so forth.

Some people argue that HDTV will drive many technologies and will provide
economies of scale, but I suspect that a lot of their projections are too
optimistic and that there are other ways of providing economies of scale
for new technologies.  I think it might be better right now to focus on the
various underlying technologies than to look at the whole.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: In (partial) defense of Rikiya Asano
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 07:25:22 GMT

In article <RHB.93Jan22220041@world.std.com> rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner) writes:
>I think if he was a Caucasian spouting racist
>invective against Nihonjin, you would be screaming for his head too.

No, no -- you simply don't understand!
And there's no need to try me with such a hypothetical (I hope :-)
character to see that.
Just observe the way others react to him, that with decency and restraint
(Bill Lambert immediately comes to mind, but of course there are many more).

-Yuzuru Hiraga
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tlai@cs.toronto.edu (Tony W H Lai)
Subject: Re: HDTV in Japan
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Date: 24 Jan 93 03:56:10 GMT

In article <1jsnf5$i4k@agate.berkeley.edu> robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:
>In article <VBoRXB4w165w@batpad.lgb.ca.us> larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield) writes:
>>I know that there is currently sat-broadcast HDTV in Japan, but I'm 
>>wondering... it seems that the (US) FCC will pick an American 
>>standard for HDTV that is different than the Japanese standard 
>>(because the Japanese standard is old and uses analog, where the 
>>standards proposed are digital).  Has there been anything in the 
>>Japanese papers or trades about what might happen if (when) the US 
>>picks a different standard? Will Japan still stay with the old 
>>standard or is there a move towards a global standard?
>
>Well, probably a dejavu of Sony's Betamax war.  With demonic speed, they will
>learn to manufacture digital technology by stealing our technology through
>scholarly exchanges & industrial "consulting".  However, they will keep their
>domestic standard different from the rest of the world to keep out alien
>TVs and reinforce the notion that Japanese are a unique people.  At least,
>that's the projection based on extrapolation of past trends.

Did you forget the smileys?

You don't know anything about HDTV in Europe, do you?  Or the history of
TV in Europe?
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: HDTV in Japan
Date: 24 Jan 1993 00:21:57 GMT
Organization: U. C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: headcrash.berkeley.edu

In article <VBoRXB4w165w@batpad.lgb.ca.us> larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield) writes:
>I know that there is currently sat-broadcast HDTV in Japan, but I'm 
>wondering... it seems that the (US) FCC will pick an American 
>standard for HDTV that is different than the Japanese standard 
>(because the Japanese standard is old and uses analog, where the 
>standards proposed are digital).  Has there been anything in the 
>Japanese papers or trades about what might happen if (when) the US 
>picks a different standard? Will Japan still stay with the old 
>standard or is there a move towards a global standard?

Well, probably a dejavu of Sony's Betamax war.  With demonic speed, they will
learn to manufacture digital technology by stealing our technology through
scholarly exchanges & industrial "consulting".  However, they will keep their
domestic standard different from the rest of the world to keep out alien
TVs and reinforce the notion that Japanese are a unique people.  At least,
that's the projection based on extrapolation of past trends.
From: eph@ukc.ac.uk (Genki)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Forgive me for asking, but...
Date: 23 Jan 93 12:01:36 GMT
Organization: A small telephone box somewhere on Dartmoor...


I've been reading soc.culture.japan for about a year and a half
now, but although my kowledge of Japanese culture has increased
[this, to my mind, is definitely a good thing], there is one 
thing that I've always failed to understand...

Why, with a name like soc.culture.japan, does this newsgroup have
to be a forum for all manner of racist and prejudiced attacks 
against one group or another. As far as I can see, it should be
devoted to discussing Japanese culture, not slanging matches or
Japan bashing.

I don't pretend to believe that Japan is perfect - no country can
be...and all countries have their own problems. However all I'm 
interested in is *culture* - and I can't see how even 50% of the
posts could be categorized as "culturally relevant".

Take the example of some of the other soc. groups... it's a real
shame that genuinely interesting and informative articles get
swamped by the masses of noise that have no real place on this
newsgroup.

That's all I have to say - thanks for reading this far.

Edwin Hayward

P.S If you want to flame me, or argue, please at least have the
decency to stay civil. I don't know you, you don't know me, but
that does not give you a free passport to abuse.
--
"Life is an illusion, free lunches doubly so."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: 326pc@gab.unt.edu (GAB 330 PC STATION #26)
Subject: Looking for postal 'pen-pals'...
Summary: Looking for postal 'pen-pals'...
Organization: College of Arts and Sciences
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:04:28 GMT

Hello there...I am hoping that someone could help me out; I am interested in 
acquiring a pen-pal from Japan, yet I have no idea how to go about doing 
so.  Could anyone be able to direct me or give me the information I need in 
search of a person to conduct postal correspondence with?  Thanks!

MMc - Matthew McGarity - II67@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp (NISHIYAMA Tetsuto)
Subject: Takanohana Rie breakup - It's official
Reply-To: tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp
Organization: Omron Corporate R&D H.Q.- R&D Support Dept.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 23:04:42 GMT

	Takanohana-zeki (formerly Takahanada) and Miyazawa Rie formally
announced the nullification of their engagement in separate press
conferences last night (1/27/93).

=========================================================================
Teddy Nishiyama  (tnishi@lsa.ncl.omron.co.jp)  OMRON Corporation  (^_^;
R&D Support Dept(LSA), Shimokaiinji, Nagaokakyo-shi, Kyoto-fu 617  JAPAN
From: jpark@rwja.umdnj.edu (John Park)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Honda vs Ford
Date: 22 Jan 93 02:07:17 GMT
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ



I personally feel that Ford makes better cars than Chrysler.
My dad bought a Taurus a few years ago, and I thought it was a pretty
spiffy car.  I'll seriously doubt buying a Chrysler until that 
bastard Lee "blame your failures on somebody else" Iacocca has left
that company for a few years so that it can recover.

Iacocca headed Chrysler for a decade (during its decline), asked the
U.S. government to shell out 2 billion dollars of our taxpayer
money to bail it out, and under his tyranical leadership it still
went down.

  During the recession, and after the 50th aniversary
of Pearl Harbor Day  + the new patriotism inspired by Desert Storm
, he found it an opportune time to pin his management failure
on Japan, and used racism & patriotism to sell his cars.

  He sidetracked
the media so that it focused its scrutiny on the american worker,
and not on management.  He did this by bringing up PM Miyazawa's
statement that "american workers are lazy," causing anger to build up
at the japanese, and smokescreening his own responsibility as 
head of a large auto corporation.   By the way, Miyazawa's statement
was a hyped & liberal translation by an AP reporter. I'm not 
sure what he really meant to say.

 I think the new wave of the future in auto production would be
"lean production" and by not treating factory workers like
robots, and instead encourage the floor worker to get more
involved in decision making and creative problem solving.  
This would in turn encourage greater job satisfaction, and 
in fewer destructive strikes, and less bad moral.  
All this is results in better quality.  It's unreasonable to 
expect extreme high quality if the job satisfaction sucks, and
the work day is extremely boring.  People aren't robots. 

I think Ford has started to adopt these strategies a while ago,
and GM & especially Chrysler are scrambling to catch up.

In the meanwhile, if I buy a car, I'll put my dollars in a Ford car.

--I have nothing against Chrysler the company. I have everything 
against that teflon media wizard Iacocca, and blockhead selfish
managers of companies that have zillions of employees relying on them.
From: tobac@ub-tky.UBSPD.CO.JP (Bach Frederic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Sumo - Hatsu Basho (Day 13)
Date: 23 Jan 93 04:27:52 GMT
Organization: UBS Phillips & Drew INT'L Ltd. TOKYO, JAPAN

Akebono made real quick work of Kotonishiki in the last bout of the day.
The sekiwake attacked with fierce thrusting, but Ake absorbed it all, and
countered pushing, sending Koto out rapidly. In the previous bout, 
Daishoyama held on to a share of the lead by defeating Konishiki.
Daishoyama went low, also burying his head in the Hawaiian's chest, and
proceeded to push him away in short bouts. Konishiki resisted at the ring,
and then slowly marched back inside. Daishoyama changed tactics, pulled
a bit and uncorked a superb shitatenage under-hand throw. Takahanada remains
alone in the 10-3 spot after beating Musashimaru. Taka did the usual one-two
thrusting and then sash grabbing, and proceeded to walk helpless Musashi
out in a few seconds. Wakahanada, touted as a candidate for the ginosho, 
made little work of Tomoefuji, keeping a very effective low posture and
pushing the top Kokonoe-beya athlete out. Mainoumi also used a low posture
to defeat tall (193cm) Kotofuji by uwatenage.

Winner	Wins	Loser	Wins

Mai'U	8	KF	8
Kiraiho	7	Higo'U(j)7
Hitachiryu(j)8	Tama	2
Kinazuma8	Nami'H	9
KasugaF	5	Tatsu	2
Kita	6	Toki	3
Ogi'H	6	T'nami	8
Kyokudo	8	Kbeppu	8
Kyokugo	4	Ttoriki	3
Toyo'U	6	Mito	6
Daizen	5	K'W	6
Wshoyo	8	Tochi'W	8
Terao	5	Misugi	5
WHda	9	TomoeF	5
KuSU	6	Aki'S	8
Dshoho	3	Tmisugi	3
THda	10	Musashi	8
DshoY	11	KoN	9
Akebono	11	KN	7

Today's main bouts :

Akebono		Konishiki
Takahanada	Kotonishiki
Musashimaru	Daishoyama

-- 
    __  _    
** ||_ /_| **   Fred "I'll be" Bach   (kddlab!ubspd.co.jp!tobac@uunet.uu.net)
** || /__| **   [Je suis athee, Dieu merci.]          Tel. 813-3597-1595
From: jamie@sirius.digital.co.jp (James Lyall)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: More Earthquakes
Date: 22 Jan 93 05:57:27 GMT
	<1993Jan20.092904.8169@Csli.Stanford.EDU> <C16Brx.B2p.1@cs.cmu.edu>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Digital Electronics Corp., Osaka, Japan
In-reply-to: jfriedl@TUBBY.MACH.CS.CMU.EDU's message of 20 Jan 93 22:28:37 GMT

hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga) writes:
|> I have the impression that in earthquakes, but more through
|> the experience of Hurricane Andrew, that American homes are more
|> fragile than Japanese ones.  They get totally devastated, while
|> Japanese homes seem to retain more structure.

I had more or less the opposite impression.  While I have no idea about
the relative destructive power of Hurricane Andrew or the recent earthquakes,
my observation from living in Osaka is that building codes are very loose,
and construction is odne quickly, and intended to last long.  Most of the
buildings and homes I have been in seem to have very thin walls, little or
no insulation, and little amplifiers to boost the sounds from all the neighbors.

Granted, I live in Nishinari-ku, a not-so-affluent part of Osaka, and the 
homes of some of my bosses seem to be of quite sturdy construction.  But my
general impression is that Japanese building standards are lower than what
I was used to in Canada.  Very high density populations, fewer natural
resources, and a war-ravaged economy (up until the last decade or two) might
all be contributing factors.

Jamie       {jamie@nanko.digital.co.jp}
From: ajeans@hplred.HPL.HP.COM (Albert Jeans)
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 15:46:13 GMT
Subject: Re: Yaohan...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan

Some of Yaohan's prices seem a bit high. I found the exact same rice crackers
in San Jose's J-town for 30% less.