HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: CNSE57@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Joe Yackee)
Subject: blah
Organization: Motorola
Date: 17 Aug 1992 13:04:17 CDT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
From: dreblow@vax.muskingum.edu (Lewis M. Dreblow)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: 1992 Volleyball Competition
Date: 14 Aug 92 23:02:56 GMT
Organization: Muskingum College

Hi fellow Nudists,

Since someone posted something about the 1992 Gay gathering I thought
I would post and query readers about the 1992 Nude Volleyball competition
at White Thorn.  Any rec.nude readers planning on attending?

FYI, Its held every year the weekend after labor day, this year from
September 10 through September 13 at White Thorn in Western Pennsylvania.
Usually $20 gets you in the gate for the whole event.  I will gladly post
or reply to anyone interested in a name, address, or telephone number
for details.

Lewis Dreblow, DREBLOW@VAX.MUSKINGUM.EDU

[let.yourself.be.free]

From: jle@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jer/ Eberhard)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:21:19 GMT
Subject: Re: shower heads?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.nude

> You shower every day, right? Tell me about your favorite shower technology!

A "Shower Massage" by Teledyne Water Pik.

This comes in "head only" or "head on the end of a hose, replaces normal
shower head".

Jer/ Eberhard, (SLASH), HAM = N0FZD     | Hewlett-Packard
Pilot: COMM, INST, CFI-Airplane & Glider| 3404 East Harmony Road
CAP CFI, Check & Mission, Pikes Peak 218| Fort Collins, Colorado, USA
EMAIL:  jle@fc.hp.com or Jer_Eberhard@fc.hp.com
From: palmer@isye.gatech.edu (Michael T. Palmer)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Uptightness about sex & ...
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:33:33 GMT

arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett) writes:

>importance being displayed in this thread. -wat-'s argument is difficult
>to dispute because it makes perfect sense...except that it totally ignores
>the fact that 90% of the society doesn't accept his philosophy and some
>sort of compromise must be reached between the two (many) belief systems.
>I.e., if you want anarchy, you'll have to settle for anarchy only in
>designated areas...despite the contradiction. Hence Michael's opinion 
>that sex-optional and clothing-optional should both be allowed provided
>they are appropriately designated.)

Thank you.  Whether you agree with me or not, you are the first poster to
indicate that you understand the point I was trying to make.

Wat seemes to not have picked up on the part about BBQing at the beach.
Since he says he is a vegetarian, and that the smell of roasting animal
flesh displeases him, I expected him to agree with me that he would seek
out beaches where BBQing (or any cooking) wasn't permitted.  The BBQ
people would go to BBQ beaches, and he would go to his.

You are right.  I suppose I am asking for ordered anarchy.  If beaches
are available for PS, but others are only CO, I would request that PS
people use the PS beach so us other morally uptight people who might want
to try a CO beach someday will know that our outrageous hangups won't be
triggered by Wat having sex with his girlfriend (or wife, whatever) in
an area where we might accidentally see him (like on the next blanket
over).  I am NOT requesting that any particular non-harmful activity be
illegal, only that people engage in those activities in designated areas
so others who might be offended can avoid those areas.  That way,
nobody's hangups will interfere with anybody else's enjoyment of any
non-harmful activities.

And, Wat's outrageous hangups about BBQ chicken won't interfere with a
good meal.  :-)  (Just kidding, Wat.  But I hope you see my point).

Mike
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From: jew@Sunquest.COM (Ward... James Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Exercise
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:11:01 GMT
Distribution: na,local
Organization: Sunquest Information Systems
In-reply-to: megs@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU's message of 14 Aug 92 16:35:46 GMT

I used to do yoga every day, and always in the nude.  I prefer to hike in the
nude, but you have to be careful where you hike.

Once someone came upon me doing yoga in the nude and wanted to have sex with
me.  (I was in an old closet at the top of some dead-end stairs warming up
for my taekwondo class in a university of Arkansas building).  I guess I
didn't like that too much since I wasn't bi at the time.

I did do some rewarding yoga practice atop the stairwell of my dormitory.
The sun and wind and sheer elevation gave me a rush.
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From: sxn@eng.sun.com (Steve Nahm)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Posting for someone else - FIRST TIMER'S REPORT
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:02:25 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: rand

steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Steve Pierce) writes:

>Subject: First time experience trip report.

>After five years of trying to work up the nerve to do it, I finally
>went to playalinda and spent the day nude.  I wish I had done it five
>years ago!  I also wish that it wouldn't endanger my career.  I'll
>probably fail some lie detector test now when I deny it trying to
>get security clearance. :-(

I don't believe you have anything to worry about here.  There's at least one
person I know who holds a security clearance and has made sure that his nudist
activities are known to the security people.  The only way that it might be a
problem is if evil foreign or domestic agents could use it as leverage against
you.  That would be impossible if you make no attempt to conceal it!

--
Steve Nahm                              sxn@sun.COM or sun!sxn
From: tcumming@netcom.com (Tom Cumming)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Posting for someone else - FIRS TIMER'S REPORT
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:50:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.py!n1fg.tcumming
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <4943@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.032154.1826@rtfm.mlb.fl.us>, steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us (Steve Pierce) writes:
>
>> One thing I didn't like about playalinda was the age distribution.
>> From the late twenties-thirties up was well represented.  There was
>> only a few people who looked to maybe be early twenties (like me)

[ talk about almost erections deleted... ]

>
>I understand that this is fairly common.  People in their early 20s are
>rarely comfortable with their bodies, so it's unlikely that they will visit
>such beaches.  From the statistically inaccurate survey I've conducted in
>my hot-tub, I know that my 20-25 year old guests always wear suits, though

    Shoot... After reading this newsgroup for about 6 months... I'm 
starting to feel like *I'm* the one with the problem! I started going
to a nude beach as soon as I could get away from my parents... i.e., 
as soon as I got my own car. 

    The local nude beach was behind the house of my high school bus
drivers house. My friends (from high school) used to park at her house
and go down to the beach. From the first time I went to a nude beach to
the present I have *never* had the big "E" problem. Gee... maybe I
should see a sex therapist or something :-)

    The only time I have had anything approaching a "problem" was when
a girlfriend was teasing me *trying* to create a problem. I just rolled
over. No problem!

Tom (It's my real last name :) Cumming
From: mrpst3@pitt.edu (Michael R Pointer)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: CO Beaches/Areas/Etc. in Western Pennsylvania
Summary: Request for location of CO areas
Date: 15 Aug 92 16:56:37 GMT
Followup-To: rec.nude or mrpst3@unix.cis.pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: mrpst3@unix.cis.pitt.edu

Just as the subject line implies, I am merely interested in knowing
what (if any) CO beaches/clubs/etc.. there are in the Western PA
area, and most importantly the Pittsburgh Area. Thanks in advance
for any replies....and, no, no controversial statements are meant
to be implied in this article. :)

Mike
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: ritter@claude.ma30.bull.com (Roger Ritter)
Subject: Re: BRA SURVEY
Organization: Bull HN Informations Systems Inc.
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:36:01 GMT

In article <9825@ncrwat.Waterloo.NCR.COM>, tjgerman@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Trevor German) writes:

> 	4. Posting in alt.nude.
> 
> 		Ok so nudists don't wear clothes, right ?
> 	
> 		Wrong.
> 
> 		The majority of nudists are recreational
> 	nudists. ie wear clothes most of the time. This 
> 	group is about clothes, hence the posting.

Actually, this group is about taking clothes off, not putting them on.
So that's what your survey should address in this group.  How do women
take their bras off?  Contort behind the back, slip the straps over
the arms and twist the hooks to the front, get their SOs to do it,
or what? :-)  The most amazing discovery for me, many years ago, was
that it's possible to remove a bra without removing the shirts that
cover it.  (See Crocodile Dundee II if you've never seen this in  
person.)
-- 
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1946 Luscombe 8A N71983 "Rocky"
Sheep do not so much fly as plummet!        NH CAP: Profile 49
From: corwin@ensta.ensta.fr (Gilles Gravier)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: nudism to nudyism
Date: 16 Aug 92 17:12:15 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Ensta, Paris, France
NNTP-Posting-Host: ensta.ensta.fr

In article <5477@ucsbcsl.ucsb.edu> 6500hage@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (William F. Hagen) writes:
>i would like to suggest changing the word "nudism" to "nudyism", as it is more pleasant and easier to say.

	Well, William, "NUDYISM" may be more pleasant for you, but think about
us French... "nudisme" is much easyer to say... And we share the advantage of
using the same word... so that everyone knows what they are talking about.


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From: jon@bradbury.cns.caltech.edu (Jon Hartzberg)
Subject: Where are CO beaches near LA?
Followup-To: rec.nude
Keywords: LA, CO beaches
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Distribution: la
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:18:55 GMT

Hi, I'm new to nude (the newsgroup, not the concept!) and this is
probably a FAQ or something, so please e-mail any replies if you 
think it's a waste of bandwidth.  I'm looking for CO beaches within
reasonable driving distance of LA.  Any suggestions, approx. distances,
etc?  (Subjective evaluations also wanted.)  Thanks!

-jon
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jon@cns.caltech.edu

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jon@cns.caltech.edu
From: craigbr@informix.com (Craig Browning)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: All the people (was Re: Embarrassed
Date: 13 Aug 92 01:26:25 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug4.060208.9041@access.digex.com> bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler) writes:
>al@imdvlf.acuson.com (Al Petrofsky) writes:
>>In article <1457200021@igc.org> naturist@igc.org (Pat O'Brien) writes:
>>
>>>   Don't do it. It is indefensible and it is illegal.
>>
>>How many times have we heard this about nudity?
>>
>>I understand that if CO recreation is sex-free then it is a smaller
>>hurdle to overcome people's silly fears of it, but you seem to offer
>>no plan for how we can eventually overcome all of people's silly
>>fears, and what we are supposed to do in the mean time.  For people
>>who want to have sex on a beach, how do you recommend finding a place
>>to do it?

^^ A VERY good post in my opinion.

>If Naturists must overcome ALL fears of ALL people then
>we are truly doomed to inexorable failure.

Then let's settle for two: nudity and sex.

>And, once again, I must point out that nudity is a condition,
>a natural state of being, just like the other states of
>being you listed: fatness, blackness, redness (if you get
>too much sun), etc.  It makes no sense to subject
>such a personal matter to regulation.
>
>Sex is an activity, and is, therefore, actionable under 
>our legal system.

This is very bad logic. Laying on a beach in a swimsuit is an activity.
Laying on a beach naked is an activity.
Laying on a beach and reading a book is an activity.
Laying on a beach and having sex is an activity.

Your race is something you have no control over. Your weight and being
sunburned are things you have some control over, but few seriously
are in favor of banning people from beaches based on these attributes
being offensive.

The principle here is pretty obvious: How to deal with some people
being offended by others' activities, whether that activity is
laying on a beach naked, or haveing sex on the beach.

The argument seems to me to be between those who are in favor of one
but not the other, and those who are in favor of both.

The division that seems most practical to me is to have a tolerant
beach and a non-tolerant beach, with the tolerant beach being defined
as a beach on which people can 'do their own thing' as long as it
doesn't hurt others, and people are required to be tolerant of what
others do that doesn't affect them directly, whether it's laying naked
or clothed, having sex, or picking their nose. The alternatives seem
to be either a slightly less repressive beach that allows nudity but
has many other rules, so many pepople have to go without - just as
nudists have to go without when there are no nude beaches - or have
seperate beaches for many different combinations of freedoms, which
is simply not practical.

>bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Subject: Re: Sex on the beach
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:53:03 GMT

williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums) writes:
>    Instead of being something that frees one, it becomes more of a
>straight-jacket.  This is the 'prudist' lifestyle I hear preached alot
>in this group.  Maybe none of you would ask me to stop if I was in an
>intimate embrace (but no sex) w/girlfriend at your favorite spot, but
>I doubt it.

Well, thanx for giving me the benefit of the doubt! :)

99.9% of the hugging, kissing, and groping I have
ever seen on he beach has been on the costume-required
part. In fact, many times on the way up to the costume-optional
part. How's that for a fact, Jack?

-- 

bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)

Xref: sparky rec.nude:4012 alt.sex:27230 alt.sewing:2456
From: tjgerman@53iss6.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Trevor German)
Newsgroups: rec.nude,alt.sex,alt.sewing
Subject: EXTENDED BRA SURVEY
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:10:55 GMT
Organization: Imaging Systems Division, NCR Corp, Waterloo, Ont., CANADA


	================
	THE SURVEY GROWS
	================

	Since I started this survey I have quickly come to discover
	that there is much more here than I first thought. I have
	therefore decided to expand the survey to include more
	parameters to collect. 

	So far it seams the belt-and-twist method is more prevelent
	for rear fastening bras, however, I am interested in knowing
	if the ladies that use this method were taught this way from
	day 1 or adopted it later because it was easier.

	Regaurding front loaders, I had a reply from one lady who
	puts her front loader on by presenting it to her self from the
	front, inserting her arms crossed into the appropriate holes
	then spinning it up over her head, down her arms and onto her
	back. She uses this method rather than the jacket method (one
	arm in round the back, other arm in, or two arms in behind the back)
	methods because it is an easy way to get the thing on without
	a twist at the back. So guess what, I want to know the numbers.

		While I am at it lets get the preferences down as well.

	So the new survey is as follows.

				never ----------- always	
			          0  1  2  3  4  5  6
 		----------------------------------------
		1. Do you wear a bra                 [ ]
		2. Does it have rear fasteners       [ ]
		3. Does it have front fasteners      [ ] 
		4. If it is rear fastening do you
		     fasten behind your back.        [ ]
		5. If it is rear fastening do you
		     belt-and-twist                  [ ]
		6. If you belt-and-twist have you
		     always done it that way         < > Y or N
		7. If you rear fasten have you
		     tried belt and twist            < > Y or N
		8. If it is front fastening do you
	             use one arm in, round back,
	             other arm method.               [ ]
		9. If it is front loading do you
		     use two arms in behind the
		     back method.                    [ ]
	       10. If it is front loading do you
		     use arms in in front, over
		     head, down arms method.         [ ] 
		----------------------------------------

	Comments :)



	Note:- Those of you who have already responded don't *have*
	to respond again. Unless you have more to offer. You dont
	have to use the form if you don't know how or if you don't
	want to, just send me the data.

	As always all answers are confidential, no salesmam will
	come to your terminal etc etc etc etc.
	===========================================================

	PS. DONT FLAME ME ABOUT POSTING LOCATIONS. BE PATIENT

	===========================================================
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       >|       never make mistakes."    | NCR, Waterloo, Ontario |<
       >|	               	         | Canada.                |<
From: williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: x rated gifs
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:12:47 GMT
Reply-To: williamt@athena.Eng.sun.com (Dances with Drums)
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: athena

In article <4890@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw+@pitt.edu writes:
>
>>Somewhere else.  Go away.  We only *talk* about sex on the beach...we don't
>>post pictures of it.  (Though, I guess we could post a picture of -wat- and
>>his SO.  After all, it wouldn't harm them.  And privacy isn't an issue since
>>they'd be doing it in public.)
>
>If you post a GIF of -wat- and his drums, pluuueazeeee post it only in the
>alt.binaries.* newsgroups! ;-)  Or maybe I'll set up an FTP site ;-)
---
	Erp.

	-wat- and his SO having sex on his drums??  Or is that -wat- having
sex with his drums on his SO?  The possibilities are mind opening!


-wat-
--
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Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rob Henry)
Subject: CO Fans in Cleveland Area Please Respond
Reply-To: ah157@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rob Henry)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 17:05:05 GMT



We are currently trying to start a group of Cleveland nudists,we had a list
but it was lost and no backup was made,so if you were one who responded last
time,please do so again to my address,or if you want to be involved at all,
please leave me mail
We're trying to start at least and email group.
Thanks
Rob
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: ta66863@cc.tut.fi (Ahlqvist Tero)
Subject: Re: Exercise
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 12:13:32 GMT


From article <1992Aug14.163546.4811@leela.cs.orst.edu>, by megs@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU (Meg Sisson):
> 
> While I was trying to restart my morning yoga program, it occurred 
> to me that I haven't seen anything about exercising while nude. I've 
...
> ...  Does any one know of such or had any other 
> experience in nude exercises, not necessarily yoga? Does jogging 
> really require support (both male/female) or is the clothing industry 
> just trying to sell more apparel?


I've never done any exercise nude, but after jogging or other exercise 
I like to stretch my muscles nude. After jogging while my muscles are
still warm I take all swetty clothes of and streeeetch myself nude.
It feels wonderful, and I don't have to strip any more, when taking
shower after it. 

I recommend.

--
Tero

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     Annalankatu 10 B 17         ta66863@cc.tut.fi
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Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: arnett@unixg.ubc.ca (Bill Arnett)
Subject: Re: x rated gifs
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:41:11 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.034843.22070@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> skcgoh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Shaw Goh) writes:
>Where can I find x-rated gifs.  Anonymous ftp site needed.

Somewhere else.  Go away.  We only *talk* about sex on the beach...we don't
post pictures of it.  (Though, I guess we could post a picture of -wat- and
his SO.  After all, it wouldn't harm them.  And privacy isn't an issue since
they'd be doing it in public.)

Bill.  <said with sarcasm on>
-- 
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From: stephane@xrtll.uucp (Stephane Deschenes)
Subject: Re: Sex on the beach
Organization: WCOM Public Access Unix - Toronto
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:41:55 GMT

[ various comments and opinions on what constitutes physical and/or 
     psychological harm, deleted]

If you want to take an argument to such extreme you can argue either side
and never win.  Since you can't agree on definitions you will never get
anywhere.  You all know the other will come up with some incredible stretch
of your point which will suposedly disprove your statement.  

Why bother?  Unless of course you enjoy arguing with people when you
know the other will never accept anything you say.  Sounds sort of
sado-masochistic.

-- 
========================================================
Stephane Deschenes     stephane@xrtll.uucp
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
========================================================
Newsgroups: rec.nude,alt.sex,alt.sewing
From: arsmith@nyx.cs.du.edu (Alan Smith)
Subject: Re: EXTENDED BRA SURVEY
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 22:31:04 GMT


Did he mean an extended survey about bras, or a survey about extended bras?

Big Al.  Hey, this is my job.
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Sex on the beach
Summary: Now 100% natural bodily functions on the nude beach
Keywords: NOTE THE FOLLOWUP LINE
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:01:22 GMT
Reply-To: tjw+@pitt.edu
Followup-To: alt.sex
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <l8nsafINN6bd@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, williamt@athena.Eng.Sun.COM (Dances with Drums) writes:

> 	I don't have a problem with this Terry.  As long as you take your
> dump or your leak into a container that will in no way pollute the beach
> and cause a health hazard, go right ahead.  If you are advocating 
> polluting the beach, I will have to disagree with that.

Then you are <generic>-negative.  It's a 100% natural function.  You are
oppressing our rights.  Our bodily functions are not pollution!!!  :-P

I guess "sex" at the nude beach is OK with me too if you do it in a container.

All of this "100% natural" stuff reminds me of when Mad Magazine did a send
up of John Denver.  "John" is "quoted" as proclaiming that he loves all things
natural!  Suddenly, John is informed that he just stepped into something
"natural".


Terry
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