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From: scottj@spider.co.uk (Scott Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: J.C SUPERSTAR not good enough for Scotland
Date: 5 Oct 92 09:13:18 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, SCOTLAND.

In article <1992Oct2.123515.11589@cbfsb.cb.att.com> gmcdermo@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (graham.p.mcdermott) writes:
>
>Bankies for the Premier next season
>(notice I said Premier not *Scottish* Premier - we were there first Ingerrland)

Good point Graham, this is becoming very annoying with the EBC particularly.
The Premier League has been running since 1975 up here but this has been
completely ignored down in Ingerrland. Another example of this was on Friday
during the One 'O Clock news on the EBC when they announced that Leeds (not
the English Champions Leeds) had drawn the Scottish Champions Rangers. I
thought that they broadcasted to the whole of the UK? What can you expect
when you pay the same licence fee.

It's a bit early but.....c'mon Norway!!

-- 
 Scott Jackson              e-mail scottj@spider.co.uk  abuse  031-554-9424
 Spider Systems Limited     "...but Joe was to belie comparisons to all these
 Edinburry                   men and introduce a new concept to Scottish
 Scotland                    fitba' - a striker who could score a goal!!"
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: NORWAY - HOLLAND: 2-1
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:58:28 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> "Bart-Jan" == Bart-Jan Bouwers (bartjan@cs.kun.nl)

Bart-Jan> AAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaRRRRrrrrrrrrggggHHHhhhhh!!!!
Bart-Jan> This is bad,
Bart-Jan> this is sad,
Bart-Jan> this is awful
Bart-Jan> this is not true
Bart-Jan> I just saw it happen.
Bart-Jan> NNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Bart-Jan> I think I'll hang myself.......
Bart-Jan> Oh no.......
Bart-Jan> NO!
Bart-Jan> Yes :-(

Hey, what happened to your good spirit? Is all that nice laughing gone
for good? Hmm, at least you now know what to "watch out" for.

(Yeah, I know, we fucked up, too).

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
From: cbar26@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Fall and Rise of Sean Subterranean
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:44:08 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Surely this was not what the average football fan could have wanted.  The day
had dawned with the familiar Scots mist pelting the pavements and a world-weary
Sean Subterranean had to haul his ass over to the east end of the city to
purchase tickets for the evenings punishment against FC Koln. Still no tickets
available from the convenient little shop in the centre of town, but that would
have been too sensible for the boardstars. A vision of a little ticket shack
outside a superstadium in Cambuslang was washed away by the rain.
The game started promisingly with the Germans comfortably in control of the
morally sound but derailed Scots team. Then,disaster struck.  In a burst of
cavalier football inspired by the vastly over-rated Paul McStay and his
midfield partner, who is in no way Scottish International Class,John Collins,
the Glasgow side fired into the lead. McStay scored first with what looked like
a brilliantly struck volley but must have been a lucky pot-shot from the
totally over-rated Celtic captain. Five minutes later the extremely average
Collins had rocketed the ball into the top corner of the net from the edge of
the penalty area, although from the TV evidence Creaney had taken time off from
posing around the box to neatly deflect the ball past the German International
keeper. Many are still sure to claim that Collins had merely mis-hit a
cross-field pass which luckily took a deflection off a team mate. Inexplicably,
this turn of events sent the home support wild with delight. Luckily, with only
about 30,000 at the game there was plenty of room to move(NOT!!). The second
half was a poorer affair with both teams nervous in the Knowledge that one goal
either way would see them through to the next round. Then, with 10 minutes
remaining Boyd found Collins with a quick throw-in. The midfielder had just
chanced to stray into a dangerous position inside the German area and with a
deft first touch not often associated with a Scottish International he eluded a
clutch of defenders and drove the ball out of reach of the despairing keeper
into the far corner of the net.  The crowd were in ectasy.  How could a player
of Collins' ability possibly score such a beautiful goal?  The Germans roused
at last piled on the pressure but the normally fragile and generous Celtic
defence held on grimly. Koln managed to get the ball in the net after some
characteristic bad defending,however the striker was penalised for attempting
to cut short the life of the Celtic keeper in his efforts to put the ball over
the goal line.
Damn, I thought. That means I'll have to go to another European Game this
season.
The crowd were rightly pleased and to their credit any sectarian chanting was
rarely heard as the majority were there to support football teams and such
chants have no place anywhere far less a football ground.

Just who is the Jersey Jagsfan
Sean Subterranean
From: dc@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Daniel Cohen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Shef. Wed. vs Spurs
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:59:03 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <24445.9209281059@thor.cf.ac.uk> scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker) writes:

>Maybe Bruce or Daniel might give us a detailed analysis of
>Spurs' problems.......? :-)

Certainly:
1) No money
2) No decent players
3) Shrinking ground
4) Shrinking attendances
and, worst of all....
5) we're no longer considered one of the "big five", or six or whatever
it is these days!!! Is this the start of a Burnley-style slide into
the nether regions of English football? Or is it just a "rebuilding"
period when the club are trying to bring on an excellent pool of
youngsters while funds are, temporariliy, a little short?

Who can say! But seriously, the defence looks much improved and I think
things are reasonably healthy up front. The midfield is a problem with
Darren Anderton taking a while to settle in. The on-field spirit of the
team seems much improved over last year which gives me hope that
relegation can be avoided again, with bigger and better things to come
next season. Unlike last season, when home form was abysmal, we're
doing OK at home. But the away performances have been awful with just 1
goal scored. I hope to get my first away match of the season on
Saturday at QPR so I'll let y'all know then whether it's really the
same team.

Daniel Cohen              Department of Computer Science 
Email: dc@dcs.qmw.ac.uk   Queen Mary and Westfield College
Tel: +44 71 975 5245/4/9  Mile End Road, London E1 4NS, UK
Fax: +44 81 980 6533      *** Glory, Glory, Hallelujah ***
From: QQ38@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Number of teams from one city in UEFA comps.
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:16:07 GMT
Organization: University of Liverpool

I've just studied the draw for the 3 UEFA cups ,and I notice there are 4
teams still from Moscow still involved. Whats the record for one city supplying
competitors in Europe. I guess London may have beaten this in the past ,but i
dont know when.
Any Ideas anyone ????
DAVE
Ps Didnt UEFA once have a ruling whereby only one team from a city could enter
their comps ????Seems to ring a bell somewhere!
From: OB71330%LTUVAX.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (Oliver Bosnjakovski [LTU Soccer Club])
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: offside
Date: 30 Sep 1992 12:53:34 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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X-Unparseable-Date: 30 Sep 1992 13:06:35 -0400 (EDT)



Someone clear something up on this.

Is even off or is it on?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cklin@csie.nctu.edu.tw (Little Devil)
Subject: Leeds back again!
Organization: Computer Science & Information Engin., Chiao-Tung U, Taiwan, ROC
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 04:33:34 GMT

    It's GREAT.... for the Leeds Utd coming back to join the big game!
	
	C  H  E  E  R  S        !        L  E  E  D  S       !

					by: Far-away fan for Liverpool. 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras)
Subject: European draw (well, some of it)
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:49:15 GMT

CHAMPIONS CUP:

Barcelona vs. CSKA Moscow
AC Milan vs. Slovan Bratislava
Glasgow Rangers vs. Stuttgart or Leeds
Gothenburg vs. Lech Poznan
Brugges vs. Austria Wien
Sion vs. Porto 
A.E.K. Athens vs. P.S.V. Eindhoven
etc...

CUP WINNERS CUP:
Werder Bremen vs. Sparta Prague
Spartak Moscow vs. Liverpool
Olympiakos Pireaus vs. Monaco
Steaua Bucharest vs. Aarhus  
etc..

UEFA CUP:
Ajax vs. Vittoria Guimaraes
Torino vs. Dynamo Moscow 
Paris S.G. vs. Napoli
Panathinaikos vs. Juventus
Kaiserslautern vs. Sheff Wednesday
Real Madrid vs. Torpedo Mosocw
Vitese Arnhem vs. Mechelen
Celtic vs. Borussia Dortmund
Hearts vs. Standard Liege
Eintracht Frankfurt vs. Galatasaray
etc..

********************************************************************************
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* Naperville, IL          *                     1948, 1953, 1971, 1989, 1991   *
* USA                     * FA CUP WINNERS  :   1930, 1936, 1950, 1971, 1979   *
*                         * LEAGUE CUP WINNERS: 1987                           *
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From: archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Subject: Re: Leeds out of Euro Cup
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:59:51 GMT

In article <1adg2uINNkfp@uniwa.uwa.edu.au> ehchua@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Eu Hin Chua) writes:
>
>	I just heard on the radio that Leeds beat Stuttgart 4-1 at
>Elland Road, but are OUT of the European Cup because of the away goals
>rule. *OUCH* what a way to go.....
>
>	Eu Hin Chua


Yeah that hurts.  I can sympathise with the Yorkshiremen.  Back in the 1970s
Derby County won a 1st leg EUFA cup game 4-1 at home against Atletico Madrid.
Atletico won the 2nd leg 4-1!  With momentum on their side in extra-time,
Atletico scored one more.  I remember feeling devastated and heartbroken
for at least a week.

At least neither Leeds nor Derby went out on the dreaded penalties (Man Utd!).


-- 
|                     Garry Archer Esq.     archer@hsi.com                     |
=======| Gresley Rovers FC:  Banks's Brewery League CHAMPIONS, 1990-91 |========
=======|                     West Midlands League   CHAMPIONS, 1991-92 |========
From: iam@rlmtc.ENET.hcc.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Enough Sandy Bashing
Date: 6 Oct 1992 15:52:41 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Enough is Enough! The last thing "the Brown Billy Boy" needs is to have
small minded people like the Jersey Jagsfan posting details of his hooligan
exploits. Being so far from home, this can only remind him fondly of times
spent at Ibrox. As his next expected port of call is the New Jersey Scots
American Club it must be noted that it is at present installing anti-stain
furniture.
NO MORE OYSTERS AND TEQUILLA FIR MACKINNON
The jersey jagsfan
From: bjpc@ENGIN.UMICH.EDU (Brian Jeffrey Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: QPR - Manchester United
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:10:49 GMT

could someone who saw the game on saturday, please send me some 
more detail about.

this is the year of QPR!!!

peace..bjpc
From: llew@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Lok C. Lew Yan Voon)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Leeds-Stuttgart game
Date: 3 Oct 1992 03:00:48 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu


A few people have mentioned that the german team was "falling into
pieces",... those were no doubt leeds fans! (no flames!, i'm a leeds fan too!)
so it was a great game?
i wonder whether anyone in the us might have taped the game.
if so, and if convenient, i'd like to arrange to get a copy.
thanks.

lok
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: 1.FC Cologne - XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX (censored)
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:48:11 GMT
	<FISCHER.92Oct3042427@steiner.iesd.auc.dk>
	<CHRIS.92Oct3161817@scan.scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de>
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> "Christian" == Christian Schetter (chris@scan.genetik.uni)

Christian> From my point of view the problem is however, that when you
Christian> have a bad day, you should at least fight.

I very much agree. The lack of fight was the reason for my vary
ambivalent feelings about Michael Laudrup when he played for the
Danish national team.

Christian> BTW Kim Christofte (sp?) is out of the team, because
Christian> Cologne's coach do not have the impression, that Christofte
Christian> is very engaged in helping the team out of its bad
Christian> situation.

Christofte is looking bad at the moment. He is technically brilliant,
but I never saw the libero as his true position. Either offensive
midfield or man-to-man central defender. Looks like Christofte is out
of the national team, too, to be replaced by either Jan Batram or Marc
Rieper. Oh, and if it's a defense 1.FC K"oln needs, they should have
bought Uche Okechukwu and/or Marc Rieper from Br/ondby instead of
Christofte. Okechukwu is *very* good.

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
From: ramprasa@ecn.purdue.edu (Ramprasad Ramakrishna)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Jerseys, stickers and other paraphernalia
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:59:28 GMT
Reply-To: ramprasa@cn.ecn.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


I am interested in pbtaining stickers and T-shirts of a couple of my
favorite clubs.
Since I am in the corn belt of the US of A
(albeit an hour from Chicago)
I would appreciate any suggestions as to how I can obtain the
following
a LIVERPOOL shirt
-----do----- stickers
a Barcelona shirt
Thanks
Prasad
From: paul@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: re: Sounness gets vote
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:11:10 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <MNEWS.717866555.21553@gate.demon.co.uk>, I.T.Marsh@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (I.T.Marsh) writes:
> 
> Phil Neal, of course, Coventry assistant manager and England coach. After
> all, look how well Coventry are doing. Speaking personally he didn't do
> too bad at Bolton. Although the team is still struggling down in the
> depths of the football league they were in a far better financial 
> position when he left and they were a better footballing team. Mind you,
> he's a miserable sod.
> Funny how two managers, Bobby Gould & Phil Neal from second or worse rate
> teams can bugger off to a PREMIER league team and suddenly they are
> up at the top of the league.
> 
> Tom Marsh.

I seem to recall that Phil Neal ruffled a few feathers at Anfield with some
passages in his autobiography. They have long memories at Anfield, and I
suspect whatever his acheivements since will not make up for that. That apart,
he would not seem a bad choice.

Paul
From: timk@bjcong.bj.co.uk (TIM KENNEDY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Cov v Scarborough (Seadogs)
Keywords: RESULTS, COVENTRY, RADIO 5 COVERAGE.
Date: 29 Sep 92 12:55:30 GMT
Reply-To: timk@bjcong.UUCP (TIM KENNEDY)
Organization: Boldon James Limited (UK)

>	As I say, not much time left, but I would like to say that Coventry 
>were a bit lucky here as they played terribly in one of the worst first halves
>that I have ever seen.

>penalty that Brian Borrows converted, that I felt convinced that Cov were 
>Ndlovu's goal was a 20yd screamer which was about the only highlight of the 
>night.  
>Scarborough had plenty of attacking moves, but Coventry's defence is one of 
>the best around at the moment and Ogrizovic had an excellent night in goal.  

Scarborough are an excellent side who,  with a little more confidence would
be up there,  elbowing the York City pigs off the top spot.  Consider,  a team
constructed almost entirely from youth programme,  only one oldster (Brendan
Ormsby formerly captain of Billy Bremner's Leeds)  and yet we have a more
than creditable home record.  They have a tendency to be robbed by inferior
sides such as Barnet (spit spit) by large numbers of goals but on their day-
look out 3rd division!  They thrashed Bradford about 7-1 on ag.  in the previous
round,  a team until recently in the (old) 2nd division.
>
>2nd leg is on Wednesday October 7th k.o 7:30pm

Wonder what happened to Jase Skyblue...?

			John Ashdjian (for Yorkshire's No 2)
-- 
We are not accustomed to losing    : Tim Kennedy       
on our own midden.                 : Boldon James Limited 
-Howard Wilkinson                  : Damian House, West Street,
                                   : CONGLETON, Cheshire. CW12 1JN.
From: srd@ukc.ac.uk (S.R.Davies)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Just my 50 cents worth
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:16:07 GMT
Reply-To: srd@ukc.ac.uk (S.R.Davies)
Organization: Computing Lab, University of Kent at Canterbury, UK.

In article <1992Sep27.214319.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk> cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>
>	Just my 50 cents worth on the L'pool/Souness saga.  When Souness
>left Liverpool for Sampdoria in 1984, the team was never quite the dominant
>force without him, even though they bagged quite a few trophies under
>Dalglish. The decline has been since then, not since he was appointed as 
>manager. Anyone care to comment ? Just my  50 cents worth..........
>  
     Although Souness was a key player in the team, I think the key loss
 was the retirement of Paisley at about the same time. He had been with
 Liverpool for about 40 odd years, and it was he and Shankly together
 who had turned LFC into what it was. What Paisley had was a very astute
 understanding of the game, tactical awareness etc., at a level that is
 rarely seen. Players were bought/groomed to fit into the team system
 ... Shankly/Paisley had the vision to pick the right players. Neither
 Dalglish nor Souness are as good at it. Both are just typical managers,
 and Liverpool are now just a typical team ... they win a few, lose a few,
 swing from satisfyingly good to exasperatingly bad. The momentum of the
 successful team carried Dalglish through his short managerial time. Also,
 Dalglish had the advantage that his team still had one of Liverpool's
 best-ever players ... Dalglish.

 Regards, Steve.
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From: nembo@ada.dei.unipd.it (Enrico Giordani 275583)
Subject: Re: Italian League: Serie A and B Results/Standings (Week 5)
Organization: D.E.I. Universita' di Padova -- Italia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:18:58 GMT

Udinese		5	Pescara		2
   Branca   '20		   Borgonovo '13
   Balbo    '34		   Bivi      '42 (2nd-p.k.)
   Balbo    '13 (2nd)
   Balbo    '20 (2nd)
   Manicone '41 (2nd)

Another match in which the torrential rains that have fallen in the
area, were the cause of many of the goals scored in this match. One
thing not caused by the torrential rains was the good performance of
Udinese's Balbo.


	Si puo' sapere chi inventa ste' stronzate!

Enrico
From: colins@praxis.co.uk (Colin Shield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Our mate Taylor again
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:27:37 GMT
Organization: Praxis, Warwick, U.K.

In article <92275.172110SCLARKE@ESTEC.BITNET> SCLARKE@ESTEC.BITNET (Sean Clarke) writes:
>Seems that in his wisdom, Graham's left out Waddle again, making
>Souness's efforts almost seem Manager of the Year material.
>
>Some bloke called Jobson (who?) from Oldham (where?) has been (hasbeen?)
>included in the squad. Anyone out there know anything about him?

Well he seems bad enough for liverpool to want to buy him, so he can't
be that good. I think Mark Wright must be starting to play a bit
better in training as they want to sell him to Spurs. I wonder if
he'll score against his old club in his second game?

Colin Shield
From: hamlet@milton.u.washington.edu (Mitch McGowan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Results: APSL Playoffs
Keywords: soccer, men's professional
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:05:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.hamlet.717703507
Organization: University of Washington

clarinews@clarinet.com (United Press International) writes:

>                          Championship
>                         Saturday Result
>        Colorado 1, Tampa Bay 0


--
And here, with his bird's eye view, and a brain to match, is Mr.
Know-It-All. - Rocket J. Squirrel
Mitch McGowan a.k.a.   | MINNESOTA NORTH STARS | KALAMAZOO WINGS  |
hamlet@u.washington.edu| KIMBERLY DYNAMITERS   | ST. KILDA SAINTS |
From: mphillip@MATAI.VUW.AC.NZ
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re:Souness gets vote
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:08:11 GMT

Time to add a few more comments me-thinks.

In terms of a successor, no way will Keegan leave Newcastle, having
witnessed every game (home & away) that Keegan played in a black and white
shirt (including the emotional flight from St James Park in a helicopter
and the tap in against Brighton in his last competitive game), he has a
bond with this club that he won't break.

Heighway is an interesting one. He was always my favourite Liverpool player
and he has a brain (ie a University Degree, although that isn't always
conclusive evidence as our friend from Dublin proved) and was around in the
Shankly and Paisley eras.

Hansen---if you can stand to spend "quality time" with Des Lynam then
surely you can stand the manager's job at Anfield.

I wasn't serious about Atkinson or Greaves but what about David Icke??? If
he really is in touch with JC then surely he'll be able to get some tips on
how to win the odd footy match.

Phil Neal--a good disciplinarian, could sort things out.

My money is on Neal or Toshack but I wonder how long the board will give
Souness. The season still has a long way to go.

Finally a word about poor Mark Wright.....dumped from the England squad.
God, Taylor loses faith in you and still keeps picking the likes of Carlton
Palmer and replaces you with Richard Jobson (wasn't he a pop star and a
mail model and presented some nightmare afternoon show like Pebble Mill at
One or something)...it's been a tough week for Mark...how about an own goal
on Saturday to cap it off.


Martin Phillipson
Faculty of Law
Victoria University of Wellington
Wellington
NEW ZEALAND

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