From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Re: Perceptions, Realities, blah, blah, blah
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 20:02:50 GMT

In article <IecsY5a00awCA8hVU7@andrew.cmu.edu> db6j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Douglas S. Brashear) writes:
>In some random post a few days ago or something, Clare Chu
><clare@nynexst.com> writes:
>
>-Good.  No problem with that, except the official name of this
>  -newsgroup is soc.culture.asian.american
>
> - Since you do not consider yourself Asian American, we'll take
> - everything you say the same way we take what JJ and other visitors
> - say, i.e. knowing that they don't represent the AA viewpoint.
> - So we delete you as a datapoint.  Thanks for making it clear.
>
>Well, even though I'm not an asian-american, I do take slight offense to
>being grouped with JJ, as any respectable human would.   :-)

  Well I'm a visitor on soc.culture.african.american and if I
  were to read soc.motss, I would be a visitor too.  Doesn't bother
  me.  Why should I be in the "in-group" everywhere?  For a long
  time, I considered myself a visitor in America, until I realized
  that I have no other home.  Many "Americans" considered me
  foreign because of my looks, and being naive and clueless,
  I bought it.  Before I had kids, I was a visitor on misc.kids
  and now that I have a son, I'm a parent.

  People take things more seriously if a parent says, "my child
  blah blah blah." and use it as a datapoint.  Rather than if I
  said, "As a straight person I find gays to be <blah blah blah>".

  Same way with people who sign their real names.  People just
  can't help but take them more seriously.  It's all a matter
  of accountability, really.  If I were a new parent, I'd want
  to read viewpoints from other new parents and take it more
  seriously than viewpoints from someone who is talking "theoretically."
  My sister (no kids) tried to lecture me on some "theory" of
  getting your toddler to obey you and both me and my mom laughed
  her out of the room.  Ha!  She takes a pediatrics class and thinks
  she can get toddlers to obey.  Ha ha ha.

>Delete me as a datapoint, eh...might as well put me in a 'kill' file or
>something...

  Nope, but same thing as if I were female and told you how jock
  itch felt, you'd not take it seriously either.  You might get a
  good laugh out of it.

>hmmm...can you make a file that weeds out posts by non-asian-americans
>by looking up surnames or something...or maybe you can program my screen
>to send you a picture of me so you can check for physical
>characteristics.  :-)

  Why not?  Send me a .gif.  I'll tell you if you qualify.  :-)
  Seriously, if you consider yourself AA, it's good enough for me.

>Although I cannot represent an AA viewpoint, I do enjoy absorbing info
>about other american sub-cultures...especially since the ol' net
>privelages are free for me (uh...maybe not if you consider the
>outrageous cost of tuition these days! 8-(

  Good.  I'm all for you reading and posting your viewpoints.  Only
  I hope you won't feel insulted if I don't consider your viewpoint
  an AA viewpoint, unless you consider yourself AA.  You may consider
  yourself AA and not have a drop of Asian blood in you.  That's
  okay with me.  Joe W says that he doesn't consider himself AA.
  JJ obviously doesn't consider himself AA.  That's fine too.
  But we know where they are coming from.
>
>dontcha kinda think that its good to get both sides...afterall, I dont
>really think that there's a 
>netnews.soc.culture.asian.american.talks.to.other.people                  :-)

  Seems like that's what this group is doing all the time.
>
>just thought I'd say that with a healthy dose of smileys!
>DOUG
>db6j+@andrew.cmu.edu