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From: curt@oce.orst.edu (Curt Vandetta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Seattle Seahawks WK5 boxscore
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:00:52 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography


Seattle Seahawks (1-4)

		Seattle	San Diego
Pts		6	17
Rushing		19-110	31-104
Pass Att	19-29-1	15-28-0
Pass Yds	70	195
Fum Lost	0	2
Poss		33:15	26:45

PASSING
Stouffer 3-7-0 31
McQwire	12-21-3 70

RUSSING
Warren 13-76
Stouffer 2-15
McGwire 1-11
Williams 3-8

RECEIVING
Williams 7-51
Clark 4-43
Warren 3-1
Heller 1-6

KICKING
Kasay F (27) F (29)

SACKS
Blackmon 1
Byrant 1

INTERCEPTIONS
(none)

INJURIES
Stouffer QB, dislocated shoulder, out at least 6 weeks

SUMMARY NOTES
Didn't see the game.  Looks like I wouldn't have wanted to.
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From: GC.SUL@forsythe.stanford.edu (Sullivan)
Subject: Re: Can Bills go 16-0?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:00:18 GMT

In article <1abms5INNkv3@phakt.usc.edu>,
tehyang@phakt.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang) writes:
>I'm not a fanatical Bills fan, but looking at their schedule and how good
>they've been playing, doesn't anyone else think they might go undefeated?

It's too easy to say a team WON'T go undefeated, it's tough to dol
>
>They've already beaten the 49ers, which was probably the toughest opponent
>they'll face this year. They're averaging around 35 points per game, and

they played a Niner defensive squad in disarray though the offense
was on all cylindars. That's not a good measure.
Do they play the Saints in Buffalo or New Orleans?  If the latter,
I take the Saints straight up.

>just seem to be so far ahead of any other AFC team.

they will lose one to Miami.
Mike
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Subject: NFL_1992 Scoreboard: Playoff Forecasts
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:21:19 MST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
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The computer program's predictions for the playoffs remain unchanged
from last week.

As of today, the computer forecasts:

NFC Championship: Washington vs. San Francisco
AFC Championship: Houston vs. Buffalo

Super Bowl: San Francisco vs. Buffalo

Super Bowl Champion: BUFFALO BILLS
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
From: larimer@cdc.com (Mark D. Larimer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: MNF Eagles/Cowboys Stats Needed
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:57:53 GMT
Organization: Control Data Systems, Inc.
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X-XXDate: Tue, 6 Oct 92 00:57:35 GMT

Hello net.world...

I am the commissioner of a fantasy league in Minneapolis and the local
paper
I get has neglected to include the stats from Monday night's Eagles/'Boys 
game in the sports section.  I know who scored what; I need to know if
anyone 
had 100 yards rushing or receiving, and also if either QB had 300 yds
passing.

Please e-mail directly but don't bother if you have to guess (I need
factuals).  

Thanks...

Mark D. Larimer
(Control Data Systems, Inc.) && (University of Minnesota)
Internet: larimer@cdc.com

Go Meanies (3-2)
From: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: GET READY FOR A LOSS DOLPHANS!
Date: 2 Oct 1992 17:19:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
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In a previous article, v079m8ta@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE) says:

>	Oh come now.  Did I accidentally walk into alt.flame.useless?
Nop,e just a place like a little league game where the parents are flaming
the other team's parents and kids.  You know, American fun!

Mike
Kill the Bills!  Snuff the Buff!  And any other term that degrades the
Bungalo Bills.  At least Miami's mascot is intelligent and doesn't eat
grass all day pretending it is delicious!!!
D-)
^^^Dolphin Man!
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: The EAGLES have landed OR Cowboys caught with pants down!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:30:23 GMT

FINAL SCORE:
Eagles:  31
Cowboys:  7  Ouch...

Whip a tie, I O, get along little doggey, your misfortune and
none of my own. :-)

Now let's see, the Eagles dropped a bomb on the Cowboys.
It was disguised as a superior overall, balanced offense/defense.
True, Cunningham's overall stats were not great, but they
certainly alot better than Aikman. Aikman is a FRAUD! The
space ship that dropped him off on this planet better come
by on the next shuttle and pick him up. :-) Man, what a CHOKER!

Herschel came thru when needed. WHAM BAM, How do you 'MAM!
I love it when the Cowboys lose. I don't why, but I just do.
It must have something to do with all these American Pie Shit
or something. :-)
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  Let us be thankful for the fools; but for them the rest
  of us could not succeed.  -   Mark Twain
From: sajja@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Rajeev  Sajja)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: EAGLES WHIP DALLAS; my 0.02cents worth
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:04:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: netnews.91824
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

We finally found out who is for real by whipping the cowboys.
I felt very happy for herschel for his two touchdowns (and 86 yards
with 19 carries) and getting a point across to his former teammates.
And more so for keith byars, who has been playing the role of a tight
end and hence has not been seen as a running back of late. He got a 
touch down. The score would have been 31-0 had the referee not ruled
the fumble by emmitt smith as down by contact. The replays showed
that it was a fumble. 

Looking ahead, if the eagles win their next two games, they is a very
good chance for them to go 14 - 2 ( losses may come @dallas, @49ers).

All you chiefs fans out there, watch the GANG GREEN defense come and rip
you apart.

A quote by the minister of defense REGGIE WHITE before the season started

	"IT IS NOW OR NEVER FOR THE EAGLES"

the way they are going, it sure looks like now....

-Rajeev

GO EAGLES....
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From: root@june.cmp.rpi.edu ()
Subject: Re: Ed Marinaro question
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:45:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.113038.2262@vixvax.mgi.com> eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com (Steve Eiswirth) writes:
>Where did Ed Marinaro play his college ball?

Marinaro played his College football at Cornell

----------------------------------------------

J.R. Ordon
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From: easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC ARNOLD SCHWEITZ)
Subject: Re: pretenders
Originator: easchwei@c00079-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: easchwei@eos.ncsu.edu (ERIC ARNOLD SCHWEITZ)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:41:00 GMT


In article <1992Oct5.183814.29122@morrow.stanford.edu>, GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold) writes:
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
|> Path: taco!gatech!usenet.ins.cwru.edu!agate!stanford.edu!morrow.stanford.edu!news
|> From: GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold)
|> Subject: Re: pretenders
|> Message-ID: <1992Oct5.183814.29122@morrow.stanford.edu>
|> Sender: news@morrow.stanford.edu (News Service)
|> Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
|> Distribution: usa
|> Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 14:38:14 GMT+5:00
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|> 
|> In article <BvM5tw.3sq@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
|> v069qqqc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike C.) writes:
|> 
|> >Once again, the Bills show how they can beat up on weak teams,
|> >only to lose when it really counts. The pattern holds true: they
|> >win the first few games against weak teams, then lose a big game
|> >against a strong team. Now they'll 'get their act together' for
|> >a few wins against some more winless teams, and breeze into the playoffs.
|> >But I sincerely hope they don't make it too far this year, because
|> >they don't have it. They're an average team who catch teams off guard
|> >with their trickery on offense, and steal some wins against some good teams.
|> 
|> >But then when it counts, the real Bills show up: the defense who can't
|> >stop anything, the offense led by an overrated QB who ***CHOKES***
|> >whenever the pressure is on (see SB XXV, XXVI). This team will never
|> >amount to everything, and I'm sick of watching them blow every big game
|> >they play.
|> 
|> >At least we could depend on a home win in the past... now even that is
|> >gone. I refuse to follow this team anymore.
|> 
|> >Congrats Miami. Take the division, take the championship. Please. We
|> >in Buffalo don't want it anymore.
|> 
|> >Mike C
|> >very fickle ex-Bills fan
|> 
|> Well finally a Bills fan see's the light!!  Now when are the rest of
|> you dreamers going to see it? :->
|> 
|>                                                     Tony
|>                                                  GO 49ERS!!!

Weren't you aware, the Bills kicked 49er a$$ already this season.  The 49ers
are just as overrated as the Bills.  Or do you think that the 49ers pass
defense is "the best in the league", too?
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From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: Re: Gannon
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:50:56 GMT

mjb10@po.CWRU.Edu (Michael J. Bumbulis) writes:

>>Do people that have seen much of Gannon think he's any good?  I
>>haven't seen him play yet this year.

>I have always thought that Gannon had the talent and have seen 
>"flashes of brilliance" in his play.  The problem was always been
>a lack of experience and confidence.  Last year was the first year
>that Gannon was in charge, and the Vikes had all sorts of distractions
>(Walker, for example) which interfered.  

>The Vikes won yesterday primarily because of Gannon.  Could they
>finally have found a quarterback?  (The last good quarterback they
>have had was Kramer in his prime).  I hope so.

Gannons problem is, and has ALWAYS been (from his days at the U of D,
believe me I saw a lot of him playing...) that he locks onto his primary
receiver at the beginning of the play and looks at him the entire play.

I dont know if he is still doing it, but he has done it the previous
two years that he has been the Vikes primary starter. I would guess that
yesterdays numbers are more a reflection of the Bengals man-to-man D
than they are of Richs maturity... 

One thing I will say about him is that he is one hell of a scrambler.
He used to run all over everyone at the U of D (then again, Tubby Raymond
ran the wishbone for half the games he played...) he only gets to scramble
a few times a game in the Vikes offense, but his average is a healthy
5.5 yards a carry so far in his career...

-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
|rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu           Ross Smith              smith@oscar.udel.edu|
|    "I really hate that dog...." - Dr. Chase Matthews, Pet Semetary 2       |
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Dolphins Eat the Bills for Lunch...
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 03:27:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.230508.1@stsci.edu> merrill@stsci.edu (Clark) writes:
>In article <16876127B6.TSTEEGM3@ua1vm.ua.edu>, TSTEEGM3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tom Steegmann) writes:
>>  
>>  
>> 'Fins.  They looked great, and could  beat any pussy NFC east team if
>> they continue to play that way.  At any rate, I have a few observations
>
>SO the Bills got beat by pussy's in the lsat two Super Bowls.  What does that
>make them?
>>  
>> Tom Steegmann
>> We just werent better than you today.

Pussy pretenders?
-- 
  ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@sysengr.pacbell.com	--------	
  "Fact are facts and will not disappear on account of 
   your likes."  -   Jawaharlal Nehru
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From: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Kevin Lu)
Subject: Man In Motion/Shifting Players
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 04:52:13 GMT


Hi there,
	The NFL rules state that the offense is granted ONE man in motion,
correct?. If so, how do the officials determine if a player is in motion,
or is just shifting?

Thanks

  +----------------------------------------+-------------------------------+
  |  Kevin Lu                              | Monash University             |
  |  Email: kevinlu@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au  | Clayton, Victoria             |
  |                                        | Australia                     |
From: melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Jackson a dolphin?
Date: 29 Sep 1992 03:25:57 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.4

In article <JAIN.92Sep28230609@bartok.CES.CWRU.Edu> jain@alpha.ces.cwru.edu writes:
>Gilford> ESPN said Jackson was ready to sign a 3 year 4.6mill (?) dollar
>Gilford> contract with the Dolphins.  However the Eagles might be offering him
>Gilford> more.  The Raiders, Broncos and someone else might still be in the
>Gilford> mix.

	Didnt Jackson want 2 mil a year? If he signs for 3 yrs, 4.6 that
	is only approx. 1.5 mil a year, and i though that the eagles
	offered jackson 1.5. Whats the deal?

	mark
	GO VIKINGS
From: v069qqqc@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Mike C.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: The Miami UV Rays
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:51:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct2.084014.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes...
>> (BTW, invoking the same logic you used to rename the Bills the
>> 'Buffalo Broncos', I propose we start calling your team the 
>> 'Miami Browns'.)
>> 
>              Uh....you lost me there friend. I can see the humor in 
>associating the Bills with the Broncos, but where is the corralation
>between the Dolphins and the Browns? Unless you're talking about the
>sun tans on some of the Miami players. Great football humor!

Check out the Browns' record against the Broncos the last 5-6 years.
The Browns were a good team, could have been a Super Bowl team, but 
the Broncos kept beating them. Sound familiar?

Mike
From: rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Post results
Date: 27 Sep 92 19:16:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department

Please post results...

--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)

A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
while others are doing.
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From: oxley@pdn.paradyne.com (Don Oxley)
Subject: Re: James Brooks -- Where the hell is he playing?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:14:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.194938.10244@ms.uky.edu> thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell) writes:
>I think James Brooks was one of the best backs of the 80's and
>still has a few good years in him.  The bengals were stupid to
>let him slip away from them.  My question is WHERE THE HELL IS
>HE PLAYING???@!?!?!  I know that Cleveland picked him up off of
>the Plan B (Personally I belive this was for no other reason than
>to not have to play *against* him) but, then I heard then say on
>primetime that he was playing at Tampa Bay (for dynamic sammy).
>
>So where is he?  What's his numbers? How's he doing?  Could someone
>say hello from one of his biggest fans?????
>
>Alex
>
>p.s. Thank god I didn't have to see boomer throw 4 more INT's this week.

He is in fact in Tampa Bay and played against the Colts for the
injured Anderson.

DonO


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From: martens@python.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Subject: Re: Buffalo?? Philly?? Nope!!!
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:02:56 GMT

In article <MeldapK00YV784lbg5@andrew.cmu.edu> Erik Karl Witte <ew2r+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

	[ ... ]

>3.  If Thurman Thomas gets injured, they have Kenneth Davis.  He was a
>former Packer, yes, but didn't fit into Lindy Infante's offense and was
>released.  Buffalo snatched him up and got their money's worth.

Wrong.  The Bills picked up Davis in Plan B.

-- 

-- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: STEELERS ARE OVERRATED!
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 30 SEP 92 15:21:36    

In article <MemHLj200WB7FePlA4@andrew.cmu.edu>, Christopher Glenn Huegle <ch44+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes...

>The Packer game was a lot closer when you consider that Woodson
>handed the Packers a touchdown on that muffed punt and following
>play where he blew the coverage, and also gave them another touchdown
>when he let sharpe beat him for a long bomb....if he played up to
>par on those 2/3 plays, the score is 3-3......

I'm afraid points scored as the result of the other team's mistakes 
count just as much as any other points.

Let's not play this if game.  I could just as easily say that if the 
Packers hadn't dropped 2-3 easy interceptions the score could be 31-3.  
Better to say that the Packers did not dominate statisically and leave 
it at that - and that's already been said.

JGH
From: riacmt@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Carol Miller-Tutzauer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bring on the FISH
Date: 29 Sep 92 02:40:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Just a note to you Bills fans who reside here in the Buffalo area:

You may want to bring along a sacrificial dolphin to the upcoming
game.  And guess what?  TOPS Market has stuffed dolphins on sale
this week for $4.95.  My 80-lb german shepherd "puppy" is already
having a field day beating up on his stuffed dolphin!

Squish the Fish!

Carol
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From: rwd4f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Rob Dobson)
Subject: Re: Patriots News 9/22
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:25:18 GMT

In article <RICH.92Sep30165508@quik.clearpoint.com> rich@jasmine.clearpoint.com writes:
>
>The major problem with the Patriots is just as it was before, they don't have a
>Quarterback.

I dont know, man, the problem with the Pats is much more fundamental than 
that. Even the best quarterback in the league cant do well with a pathetic
offensive line and running game. however, quarterback and receiver problems
give the pats that special something that makes a not-so-great team an
awful team.

r


From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:44:28 GMT
Subject: Re: Raiders QBs
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

No, they both appear to be losers.  We want Steve Buerlein back.  One of the
stupidest moves Davis ever made.

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From: kboucher@hsi.com (Keith Boucher)
Subject: Two incredible games in 1 day!
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 19:14:23 GMT

There has recently been some discussion in this newsgroup regarding
the great comeback Roger Staubach engineered against the S.F. 49ers
some time in the 70's.  The details of that game are as follows:

Vic Washington of the 49ers ran back the opening kickoff for a TD
to give SF a 7-0 lead.  The score later became 21-3 in favor of
SF.  Dallas came back with 10 points to make it 21-13.  The 49ers
seemingly put it out of reach when they scored to make it 28-13.

Sometime midway through the 4th Qtr, Dallas kicked a FG to close
within 28-16.  This meant they needed 2 TDs to take the lead.  I
gave them up for dead when they punted the ball back to SF with
about 4 minutes left and still trailing 28-16.  They held SF, however,
and got the ball back with only about 2 or 2.5 minutes left and
they needed 2 TDs.  Sure enough, they scored a TD quickly to make
it 28-23.  They then recovered an onside kick and scored another
TD very quickly to take the lead 30-28.  The remarkable thing to
me was that they scored 2 TDs so quickly that SF still had about
a minute to try and get a FG themselves.  Remember back then that
the goal posts were on the goal line, not at the back of the end
zone.  Anyway, the 49ers failed to score and Dallas won 30-28, a
great comeback.

The most amazing thing, though, was that this game was played on
the same day as the Franco Harris "Immaculate Reception" game
against the Oakland Raiders.  In this game, the Steelers led
6-0 until late in the 4th Qtr when Kenny Stabler ran about 30 yards
for a TD to give the Raiders a 7-6 lead.
With less than a minute left, the Steelers had a fourth and
long somewhere in their own end of the field.  Bradshaw threw a
pass in the direction of Frenchy Fuqua (I think).  Jack Tatum
came in to break up the play but, unfortunately for the Raiders,
the ricochet landed in Franco's hands.  He proceeded to run for
a TD giving the Steelers a 13-7 win.

I don't remember the actual date of the games, but it was the
first round of playoffs following the 1972 regular season.  Of course,
another memorable occurence that year was the perfect 17-0 season
compiled by the Miami Dolphins

Keith Boucher
3M HIS
Wallingford, CT

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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Mandarich SI article (Re: Green Bay 17, Pitt 3)
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 28 SEP 92 13:16:59    

In article <1a7dtnINNq55@uwm.edu>, paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes...

>   I've never been a big Tony Mandarich fan, but I have to admit that this
>   article disgusted me. SI, and Jill Lieber (I think that's her name) went
>   a little overboard in ripping him. At this point, it does seem pretty
>   obvious that Mandarich took steroids. I do wonder if Mandarich is being
>   totally honest about that. Still, since he got his contract he hasn't
>   mouthed off and has seemed like a pretty decent, humble guy (of course
>   getting thrown around the NFL might have had something to do with that).

Mandarich last week: "I like Green Bay.  No, I *love* Green Bay."  
Anybody who feels that way about GB is okay in my book.

He still maintains that he never took steroids.  He's passed every 
steroid test he's ever taken.  That's good enough for me.

JGH