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From: lancer@wpi.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: any net bands?
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:21:56
Organization: ZikZak Corporation
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: scq6817@ritvax.isc.rit.edu's message of Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:25:46 GMT

>>>>> "scq6817" == scq6817  <scq6817@ritvax.isc.rit.edu> writes:
scq6817> AUGH!

My sentiments exactly...  Well, SOME of the time...

scq6817> well.....umm...i love Green Magnet School...i wouldn't call
scq6817> it hardcore but still angry and unrelenting...how did they
scq6817> perform? i saw em at WAG before it shut down and then again
scq6817> at lollapalooza...i'd say one of the better bands around
scq6817> right now... 

They were pretty good.  No, not hardcore, but they just HAPPENED to be
who we were opening for...  Loud and with too many people in the band
was my judgment.  Also, they were pretty self righteous and rude
backstage (and again when our guitarist ran into them at a Dunkin
Donuts later in the week).  Definitely less than cool behaviour...

I didn't know the WAG closed.  I know some people who were there a few
weeks ago...

.s.
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Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: wc8384@writer.yorku.ca (Siusan Moffat)
Subject: Re: What is Hardcore????
Followup-To: the lame comment on drugs
Summary: on the subject of drugs
Keywords: fukin drugs
Organization: Computer Assisted Writing Centre, York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:44:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.191653.4385@spcvxb.spc.edu> 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.180822.10173@EE.Stanford.EDU>, bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore) writes:
>> 
>> I think this is a great topic of discussion for a hardcore group.
>> The answer to your question is that a lot of hardcore fans see a
>> dirty world out there, and that you need a clear head to deal with
>> those problems, and with your life.
>> 
>> Your mileage may vary.
>> 
>> Bill
>
>
>
>Well occasional drug use does not cloud your mind, I can still think clearly 
>anyway.  I just think its a good way to escape from everyday life now and then. 
> You guys are gonna honestly tell me you never drink/get wasted?
>
>The Fiend  
>"This society makes me sick, I'd like to give it a big kick!"

i'd just like to put my two cents in here and say that if drugs don't
cloud your mind then how are you so called "escaping"? "You guys are gonna
honestly tell me you never drink/get wasted?" What's so great about
reeling about and throwing up and having a huge migraine of a
headache? I don't get it.  don't you have enough problems to worry
about than what you did the night before? isn't there better things to
do than sit around and get plastered? what makes you better than those
redneck jocks who watch football and do the same things? If you feel
the need to escape from life - and you're actually doing something in
it that will make a difference (not just whining and complaining about
how shitty it is) then read a fukin book.
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Re: Intermosh No. 13
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:12:26 GMT

In article 22645@samba.oit.unc.edu, Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell) writes:
>
>The Finnish brutal band DBM is now only a 2-piece with the departure of
>Manu and Jarno Lehtinen, and the remaining 2 members, Timo Juvonen and
>Tommy Rannanpaa, have moved from Kokkola to Turku to go to school...

Speaking of Finland, whatever happened to Terveet Kadet?

gak

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Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: reddog@sage.cc.purdue.edu (RedDog)
Subject: Re: FFUUUUCCKK!!! It's here!!
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:10:13 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.145553.13826@ncsu.edu> tphailey@eos.ncsu.edu (THOMAS PATRICK HAILEY) writes:
>
>
>Anyone heard stuff by J Church? It's really good
>
>TOMASS

J CHURCH!!! yay yay yay!!
Ive got the new one coming in the mail sometime soon.

Its got Lance from CRINGER in it, and Gardner(?)
Speaking of CRINGER, did anyone notice a cringer picture in _Bill and
Ted_?

Now it's time for...CONCERT REVIEW...
wow.

Oh yeah, I saw the VINDICTIVES and SCREECHING WEASEL in Chicago
last weekend...it was pretty groovy.  V all dressed up as evil
looking clowns and totally rocked the place.  They played my
two favorite songs, "Circle" and "the La Song", which made me happy.

Then SW came on and played to what they said was the biggest crowd they
had ever been in front of...(wow, and to be a part of that)
It was real fun, good atmosphere, and Ben played the last half of
the show naked, ending with, of course, "Iwanna be naked".  They played
a wide variety of stuff from BBB and MBH and others, along with 
a few new songs J&J and another(s) to be released soon.

Any reviews on _Duct Tape Soup_? 

RedDog

Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: lint@leland.Stanford.EDU (Graham Spencer (NOUid 0091))
Subject: Re: SNFU
Keywords: snfu
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 09:11:09 GMT

In article <BxCu60.JAz@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> reddog@sage.cc.purdue.edu (RedDog) writes:

 >> also, does anyone know how i can go about getting anything (vinal,
 >> CD, cassette) by a band called SNFU?

 > Did 'nt they break up?

They broke up and Mr. Chi Pig played for a while in a band called the
Wheat Chiefs, but now SNFU are back together again (as of maybe a year
or so ago?).

You can get _Better_Than_A_Stick_In_The_Eye_ on CD (pretty good, but
not my favorite SNFU release). You can also get _Last_Of_The_Big_Time
Suspenders_ on CD, it's a bunch of live stuff that doesn't really do
it for me.

--Graham
-- 
--Graham
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: leon@cs.weber.edu (Leon D. Atkinson)
Subject: Re: Meta.a.m.hardcore: What Is a.m.Hardcore
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 23:46:56 GMT

I agree.  Hardcore is an oft mis-used word.  And since the hardcore
we're thinking of is just a type of punk, let's broaden the topic to that.

For instance, I like the Feedrz.  They aren't exactly hardcore, but they
are definately punk.

I like Metallica, but sadly I can't consider them hardcore.

Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: peavy@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (PEAVY ROBERT MARSHAL)
Subject: Suggestions...
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 06:12:07 GMT



My favorite bands are Decendents, All, Agent Orange, Lemonheads, and have
recently acquired a Samiam disc.  I am looking for any other punk/pop / popcore
bands out there.  Green Day, Big Drill Car, and early Chemical People (I guess
most of the Cruz label) have been recomended.  Any other's?  I'm getting bored
of my music.

Marshall
peavy@rintintin.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: toolsrus@bcarh838.bnr.ca (Rev. Willard the Wombat)
Subject: Re: Hardcore...
Reply-To: toolsrus@bcarh838.bnr.ca (Rev. Willard the Wombat)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:24:55 GMT

In earlier article, ibonnycastle@trentu.ca (The Black Wolf) writes:
> Allright.. lets hear it.. what bands do people like out there?

How about: nomeansno, DHI, Tumor Circus, LARD, Meat Puppets, Rollins Band,
           Dead Kennedys, Sonic Youth, Sing Along With Tonto, PIL, James,
           Look People, ... (not all hardcore, but I don't just listen to
           hardcore exclusively)

> Personally, I'm into the heavy-metal/inustrial type myself.. maybe not as 
> hardcore as some people would like.

So.  I like what I like, you like what you like, and some people just hate
anything that somebody else has decided to like.  Let's not waste our lives
arguing over music categories like all the other music groups, but let's try
to keep the focus on hardcore music.



Rev. Willard the Wombat    |  "I heard they were dismembering people down the
Just This Guy... You Know  |   street. Those Jones', YA GOTTA LOVE 'EM!!!"
Bell-Northern Research     |        -- nomeansno



Don't associate my opinions with those of Bell-Northern Research, they might
get angry.  And, you wouldn't like them when they get angry!!!
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: dillongm@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Johnny Monocrome)
Subject: Any Bands still Left?????
Organization: Ministry of CyberDisInforMation 
Distribution: wd
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:48:33 GMT

Are there still any good hardcore/Punk bands left in the world???

I know Flipper is still around but who else??

[Rant and Rave mode ON] 
Personaly i think that most hardcore that comes out nowadays is just
plan bad metal.  Where is the fuck the world attitude that made 'core what
it was??? Socity has only gotting worse not better.  Disco is fuckin back.
what the hell happened???
[Rant and Rave mode OFF]

Any truth to the Pistol's tour [with Mattlock on bass?]

latere

Johnny Monocrome

 
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: What is Hardcore????
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 18:08:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.223830.4366@spcvxb.spc.edu> 6anthony_m@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>> 
>> As for the difference between punk and hardcore, I don't really think
>> there is one.  Most people now don't want to be associated with punk
>> rock because they think punk means 6 ft. high mohawks and being
>> drugged up and fucked up.  But, the Avengers were a punk band, Minor
>> Threat was a punk band and Born Against is a punk band.  Well, this is
>> sort of getting off topic.  Let me know what you people think of all
>> this.
>> 
>
>
>Thats the only thing I dont understand about people who are more into
>hardcore then punk.  Whats wrong with some drugs occasionally to get
>away from the problems of the real world???

I think this is a great topic of discussion for a hardcore group.
The answer to your question is that a lot of hardcore fans see a
dirty world out there, and that you need a clear head to deal with
those problems, and with your life.

Your mileage may vary.

Bill


Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: fernee@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Mark Fernee)
Subject: This is Hardcore -- Rock!
Organization: Physics Dept. The University of Queensland
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 02:30:30 GMT

In article <MIKEC.92Nov6120150@cantor.praxis.co.uk>, mikec@praxis.co.uk (Michael Chace) writes:
|> >>>>> Regarding Re: Local or what?; boender@dutiws.tudelft.nl (Hildo Biersma) said:
|> 
|> Hildo> BTW, what's hardcore? I guess Alice In Chains qualifies, unless there's
|> Hildo> guys out there that like Death Speed Trash Metal only....
|> 
|> 	Virtually all types of music have a sector called Hardcore.
|> 
|> 	Hardcore	Punk
|> 	XXXXXXXXNOT_---	Rave XXXXXXXXXX  
|> 			Grunge
|> 			Metal
|> 
|> 	Me ? I'm going to be discussing my favourite Hardcore, that
|> 	of the Techno/Rave variety in this group.
|> 
|> 	Mike
|> 	****


Hi everyone. I guess you have me to thank/blame for this group.

By hardcore I meant guitar based hardcore. None of this rave stuff.
The category is alot broader than listed above. Many bands no longer fit
the Punk/Grunge/Metal category. That's if you even want to categorise
them. This group is for hardcore rock. Guitars, guitars and more 
guitars. 
It was formed to divert some of the hardcore traffic from r.m.i and
a.m.a. So here's a few groups that fit the mould:

Neurosis, Therapy?, Silverfish, Skrew, Malhavoc, Ministry, Unsane,
Cringer, Pop defect, Clawhammer, Babes in toyland, L7, Hole, 
Mudhoney, Godflesh, TAD, Tar, Head of David, Mark of Cain, God Bullies,
Bastards, Cows, Helmet, Melvins, Fetish 69, Pailhead, Bad religion.......

A pretty broad category, but definitely not for Metal/Death Metal/Rave
stuff.

BTW, has anybody heard the new Therapy? album which has supposedly just
been released in the UK?

See ya,

Mark.
From: grenier@aludra.usc.edu (Adrian Grenier)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: Suburbia Nostagia
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:11:06 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

I like the part where that short fused punk guy punches the father of that girl
who they are having the funeral for. He does it right in the fuckin' church,
			very funny, 
				pretty cheezy flick though,
						"T.R." - gimmee a break

							-adrian
From: mcsdc1gm@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: True hardcorre
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:57:22 +0100
Distribution: world
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <1dcco9INN113@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, cpluis@cats.ucsc.edu (Mulatto) writes:
> 
> 
> What the fuck are you all fuckin wiinies doing here, in this newsgroup?
> I thought this was a hard core fuckin gruop.  Well if yyour don't fit here
> then get the fuck out.  I like metasllica myself but they've gone glam so
> just don't talk about fuckin industrial rock or whatever you call it.
> this is a group for slayer, napon, death, pestilence, bad religion, etc..
> so please don't post something that is not inthis category, you shity ass
> glam rockers.
> 			sincerely
> 				angelp of death

             SLAYER,DEATH AND PESTILENCE HARDCORE???!!!!!
             THEY'RE BLOODT THRASH/DEATH METAL.
             HARDCORE WAS BORN FROM PUNK
             STUFF LIKE MINOR THREAT,CIRCLE JERKS,ELECTRO HIPPIES
             DOOM,E.N.T.,DISTORTED NOISE,DK's,INSTIGATORS ETC.
             THERES A THRASH NEWSGROUP FOR BANDS LIKE SLAYER.

             
                  SO KEEP IT PUNK AND HARDCORE OK
 
                         GRAHAM.

             PEACE,LOVE AND EQUALITY.
From: xtifr@netcom.com (Chris Waters)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: Punk Rock TV
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:34:33 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In <BxLvyC.2nH@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> haynes@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Carl W. Haynes III) writes:

>Anyone remember the cool tv shows that had punk rock episodes? 
>I remember Quincy and CHiPs both had evil punk rockers
>terrorizing the public, I always watch the re-runs to see the
>episodes, but have never seen them since their original
>airing. Any other shows have punk rock episodes?

Agent Orange appeared on an episode of 21 Jump Street.
-- 
Chris Waters    | the insane don't | "Don't you boys know NICE songs?"
xtifr@netcom.COM| need disclaimers |                 -- Joe's mama
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: cwoolner@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: re: zines
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:53:15 GMT

finally! someoone on this list into some decent stuff. i'i into all the zines
you mentioned, except flipside (it's too macho and cock rock for me) and i love
plumber's butt and dear jesus the most out of your list. i do a zine called
girl fiend.  i'm into lots of zines that i guess were inspired by the whole
riot grrrl movement, like bikini kill, fantastic, gitl germs, gaybee, out
damn spot,,etc. also stuuf from toronto. lotsa kool queer punk stuff from
there.
From: kickda@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Damien Kixk)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Meta.a.m.hardcore: What Is a.m.Hardcore
Date: 6 Nov 1992 20:09:16 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu

          Seems to me there are two different "camps".  Those who 
   have visions of Napalm Death, Sepulture and Carcass (sp?) 
   suffering in their heads.  Those who have visions of Minor Threat,
   The Misfits and All slamming in their heads.  This is the impression
   I've gotten from what I've read ... do others agree?

          Personally ... give me punk or give me death -- just please
   don't make it metal.  My voice is in for a.m.h. reading alt.music.punk-
   rock.

          ... here comes the part where everyone commits a spontaneous
   act of society -- defining standards and making norms for a.m.h.
   Oh well ... guess it couldn't be helped.  This unavoidable record
   of history is the snare which traps our freedom -- slowly encrusting
   what was once flexible and undefined with concrete deposits of 
   this-is-what-you-were  -- which will follow us until our death.
   At that moment, one can look at the statue that is left behind,
   sculpted with the ever present chisel of history from the stone of
   what-we-do, and finally say - "This is what I am.  I am finally
   complete."  I hope that when the final day for a.m.h. comes the
   eulogy will read - "Here lies our beloved newsgroup ... it was so
   punk rock!"
   
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From: Mark.Cornick@launchpad.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: Dischord
Date: 12 Nov 92 05:07:54 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Nov12.025622.4240@vela.acs.oakland.edu> jjbaron@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Jeff Baron) writes:
>I have sent for a Dischord catalog a number of times and on the
>back is always a small note written by, if i remember correctly,
>"Joe and Amy".  Who are they in relation to Dischord, owners perhaps?
>Just wondering.

Joe and Amy are Dischord's mail order people. Amy is Amy Pickering, who's
been on a lot of old Dischord records (she sings.) I've forgotten who Joe
is right now. Also, Kim Coleatta from Jawbox works in the
radio-promotional area for Dischord. They don't own Dischord (Ian does)
but just put in many hours servicing your consumer needs (grin) Seriously,
whenever you order anything, you always get a personal note from Joe and
Amy, which is a nice touch. Other DC labels, like TeenBeat and Simple
Machines, do this too. Must be something in the water :)

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From: leon@cs.weber.edu (Leon D. Atkinson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: Suburbia Nostagia
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:01:53 GMT
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center

Nah, the best part is when the guy throws the bottle at the bus and says,
"Fuckin' bus!"  Whenever I see a bus, I think of that line.

Suburbia is the definitive punk movie, I think.
From: jeffs@soul.esd.sgi.com (Jeff Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: nation of ulysseys
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:10:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA

>What a drag....   Are you sure it's true?

Perhaps the Nation is now powerful enough not to need the band
to be the mouthpiece of the Ulyssian dialectic.

As for the rumors that about them being in trouble with only on
guitarist on the recent tour, I saw them 18 months ago with one
guitarist then a few months after that with Kroner back in the
line-up.

jeffs
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: ben@NeoSoft.com (Ben Ettinger)
Subject: Re: Hardcore...
Organization: NeoSoft Communications Services -- (713) 684-5900
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 22:20:58 GMT

> as for me....i like angyry stuff mostly
> maybe not actually angry....but it sounds a bit angry to me
> stuff like pantera, helmet, into another, JESUS LIZARD! (thats an old
> favorite)
> speaking of Jesus Lizard...anyone else love the new album?
> anyone else love the OLD albums??
> for some reason its hard to find fans of this intense group
 
I got it. Liar. Its amazing, and though its the only one I have by them,
listening to it makes me wanna get all the old ones, which I plan to do soon
enough.. Anyone have a discography I could get a copy of?
They are coming in concert here in Houston on the 21st and I'm so damn
happy. Crash Worship tomorrow (the 7th), Breeders the 12th, Jesus Lizard
the 21st, and Mudhoney Dec. 12. !-)
 
ben.

-- 
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[I] terror in eye, resist and struggle, your faith is a lie.    [I]
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From: mtrebel1@cc.swarthmore.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: Straightedge!
Date: 7 Nov 92 21:26:55 GMT
Organization: Swarthmore College

In article <1992Nov6.185908.2477@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>,
ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang) writes:
> 
> Cool.  I remember hardcore, back in '82, when Minor Threat was big in my home
> town of Wash. DC.> 
> Someone mentioned Ian Mckaye, did you see the Ignition 7" with Alec McKaye ?
> (I guess his brother).  McKaye, by the way, was the son of a rather
> well-known car dealer in DC, from what I hear.
> 
>

I just wanted to put in my 2 cents--Ian McKaye's father is an editor at the

Washington Post.  McKaye's sister also has a band--I can't remember the
name--
who are reportedly very cool.
 
==Matt
Trebelhorn
From: bssbc3gsd@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Courtney Love...
Date: 10 Nov 92 11:24:25 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology


What the hell is she up to at the mo???


one rumour i heard concerned Hole's new POP(!!!!!!) direction...

i also heard thet Hole split....


and the totally unbelievable one about her joining that obscure band her
husband is in.........

so what the hell is going on???????


(and dont mention the baby........we all know...)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
From: pogo@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Chris Gual)
Newsgroups: alt.music.hardcore
Subject: Re: HC
Date: 10 Nov 1992 19:35:57 GMT
Organization: Russell Street HardCore
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

mhs@fokus.gmd.de (M.Schmeil) writes:
>hc-newsgroup: funny. for those of you with email-access send
>a message to 
>
>punk-list-request@cpac.washington.edu
>
>and you can read a bunch of other punk/hc/sXe/grunge-stuff.

  the last time i checked out the punk list it had nothing at all to
do with music. it was just a lame f-lame war between some stupid
fucks. boring. 

>there's a f**king grunge and sXe and label-list too...

the sxex list wuz cool for a bit but now no one posts anything anymore...

pogo
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