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From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Where they go in TUC--SPOILER!
Keywords: peter pans a fairy
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:44:08 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <1992Jul21.030902.27480@engr.latech.edu>, bronson@engr (Patrick K. Bronson) writes:
>In article <1992Jul20.154732.5684@iscsvax.uni.edu> althof5805@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>>WARNING!!!!!  This entry contains a SPOILER in disguise!  If you haven't seen
>>STVI:TUC yet, don't spoil your fun by reading this!
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>>Was it blatently obvious to *everyone* in the theatres that Kirk's last
>>"official" line in TUC is a direction for the heading "Second star on the
>>right...and straight on 'til morning."  This heading would take them, of
>>course, to the legendary home of Peter Pan--NeverNeverLand.

I think that this might be a subtle poke at the extreme get-a-lifers who
seem to think that Star Trek is real (or will be real).

Compare this to Spock's line "One of my ancestors said 'once you have
eliminated the impossible, whatever is left, however improbable, must
be the truth'" (from memory; please no flames for inaccuracy).  This is
of course, a line made famous by Sherlock Holmes.

Also compare Uhura's line in ST3:TSFS "This isn't reality; this is fantasy"
(again from memory).

Of course, it wouldn't be too hard to make the case that this is just
another instance of the "we're not really serious about this" attitude
characterized by Spock's "only Nixon could go to China" line.

Take it as you will.

-- 
Dave Schaumann			dave@cs.arizona.edu
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From: kimnach@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (GREG KIMNACH)
Subject: Re: Brent Spiner and Skin Coloring
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: na
Date: 28 Jul 1992 13:49 EST  

In article <1992Jul28.011802.21928@reed.edu>, odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin) writes...
> 
>  It is no secret that Brent Spiner is getting tired of the long hours in the
>  make-up chair.  He's said it several times -- most recently (to my knowlege)
>  at the Marlborough, MA creation con.  I just wish I'd thought to ask this 
>  question then...
> 
>  Why can't Data just have his skin color changed again, this time permanently?
>  We *know* he's an android by now;  we don't _really_ need the blatant visual
>  reminder. (Besides, he could keep the eyes... ;)  
> 
>  This would solve many problems, would it not?  And, on the whole, I'd much
>  rather lose seeing the white-face than lose seeing Brent.
> 
>  I remember thinking during "Unification" that Dr Crusher's line about how
>  she wasn't sure the skin coloring was reversible that that shouldn't be all
>  that much of a hardship...
> 
>  So, what think ye, Netfolk?  Good idea or no?  (I simply cannot wait to be
>  told I need a life.  I've got one, thanks. 1/2 ;)  And what would Brent think
>  of it, I wonder?  If anyone sees him at an upcoming Con, this might be a
>  great question to ask.

I say that in his quest to become more human, Data would at least want to 
change his skin color--but to which race? 

Greg
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From: millere@frith.msu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Cause & Effect
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:35:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Originator: millere@frith.egr.msu.edu

ri@nmsu.edu (Susan Margarit) writes:
>
>>My husbands question:  How come on a ship of over 1000 persons, were
>>there only 5 couples "getting it on" (so to speak)? :)  :)  :)

Top 10 reasons that only 5 couples were "getting it on":

1. They still put saltpeter in the food (an old army trick).

2. People in the 24th Century only get it on with other species,
   leaving a limited amount of combinations on ship (some of Riker's
   ridge faced girlfriends come to mind).

3. "Not tonight, honey. This time loop is giving me a headache."

4. "I'm bored. I feel like wev'e been doing the exact same thing
    for seventeen nights now."

5. Geordi's 'x-ray' visor leaves some couples nervous as he prowls
   the ship at night.

6. The ship's condom replicator was broken.

7. Worf only has two hands, give him a break.

8. Power from the ship's Orgasmatron has to be diverted to the nacelles,
   sorry for the inconvenience.

9. Pon-far is 'in'.

10. "Beam me up, Scotty" is no longer an ice-breaker.

11. Girls no longer fall for 'Would you like to see my matter-anti
    matter mixing chamber?".
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From: vincent@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Victor W. Wong)
Subject: Re: Spock/Holmes/Doyle (was Re: ST VI: The Undiscovered Country)
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:29:23 EDT

From the Television Sherlock Holmes, by Peter Haining (London, Virgin
Books, 1986, ISBN 0-86369-537X:

   The same year [1976] ... saw another perhaps equally unlikely
   actor playing Holmes--Leonard Nimoy of Star Trek fame ... in 
   a fifteen-minute short, The Interior Motive, written by Rich-
   ard L. Smith and directed by George Rasmussen for Kentucky 
   Educational Television.  With Burt Blackwell as Doctor Watson, this 
   Holmes received a globe of the world and a note asking him to
   discover the contents of its interior without disturbing the
   surface.

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                            VICTOR WONG
                     vincent@micor.ocunix.on.ca
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From: kuchar@buast7.bu.edu (Tom Kuchar)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Brent Spiner and Skin Coloring
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:11:44 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA


In reponse to a previous post:

Although getting rid of Data's skin color makeup may placate Spiner,
it would violate the spirit of IDIC in the frame of the show (some one
has to change his skin color to be accepted as hu-man, rather than ro-man).

-- 
Tom Kuchar			  
kuchar@buast7.bu.edu		  -or-                      kuchar@plh.af.mil
Department of Astronomy		                     Phillips Laboratory/GPOB
Boston Univerity		                                  Hanscom AFB
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From: giffen@cae.wisc.edu (Hilary Giffen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.tech
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
Date: 25 Jul 92 22:48:16 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

In article <1992Jul25.172053.24591@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16) writes:
>I just rewatched STVI:TUC on home video and was able to analyze certain things
>a little better in my home that I was unable to do at the theater. Maybe some
>of you can answer them:
>
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>2) When the mention of Romulan Ale being illegal pops up Kirk says they are
>1000 light-years from Starfleet HQ. How long is this movie (their perspective)
>anyway? Even at Warp 10 it would take a full year to get 1000 ly and I doubt
>they were going that fast!
>

I seem to remember reading somewhere that the warp scale was logarithmic
scale, with warp 1 as the speed of light.  Warp 3, then, would be 1000
light years per year, and warp 9 would be 1,000,000,000 light years per 
year.  IMHO, plenty fast enough.

Hilary Giffen
giffen@cae.wisc.edu
From: falatic@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (MacGyver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Who was the guy in Star Trek 6???
Date: 26 Jul 92 19:34:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


	Who was the actor who played the Klingon Warrior in Star Trek
6? The guy with the eyepatch, and the shakespearian quotes? 
		Please reply via E-Mail
		-Marty
			falatic@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Alas, poor Worf!  I knew him, Horatio.
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:17:19 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <3890@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP>, tjw@vms (TJ Wood) writes:
>In article <14705@umd5.umd.edu>, jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) writes:
>
>> Why not?  After all, they're doing it for Sela...  :-)
>
>OK. I'll bite.  Who's Sela?  (Sarek's Wife?)

If you don't know, you don't want to know.  Trust me.

If by some chance you do want to know, go watch Redemption/Redemption II
(the season 4 closer/season 5 opener) for the full & sordid details.

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From: jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT)
Subject: Re: What's Babylon 5?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:21:55 GMT

In article <63102@cup.portal.com> Edward_Lee_Whiteside@cup.portal.com writes:
>Most of the heavy Babylon 5 discussion electronically has been centered on 
>GEnie and (to a lesser extent) on Compuserve.  On GEnie, there is a couple

It is great that JMS is out there promoting B5, it looks great, but so what?
People outside of USENET have known about DSN for over 5 mos. (or at least
people like us that follow StarTrek) and no one that I have talked to 
that are big fans have EVER HEARD OF B5.  I was not a big fan until recently
and the people that got me hooked had never heard of B5.  JMS better speed
up word of mouth if he hopes to compete- DSN looks great.  
 
>Now, if Piller and Berman were on here or one of the online services, 
>posting several messages a day, answering questions and such about ST:TNG 
>and Deep Space Nine, that would get a lot of attention, to say the least.

As I just said, people already have heard of DSN.  As a matter of fact I am
friends with the Co-Moderator for Fido Nets DSN echo.  It is spreading like
wildfire around the country, she hasn't heard diddly about B5.  

>After getting enough detailed info on Babylon 5, I'll be posting regularly to
>USENET to keep the info flowing, but it still doesn't come close to 
>how much is going on in the GEnie topic.  Still, with the article in Starlog

That's great, I'll be here to read it!!  

>this month and additional articles in other magazines, the awareness of
>B5 is starting to pick up.  JMS is basically saying that he's been listening

It is, thanks to you and the Electronic networks around.  I found the B5
FAQ and 2 gifs at ftp.coe.montana.edu and posted them on my BBS (that I 
co-moderate here in Boulder, CO) and have had a wonderful response.  I don't
want you, or anyone to think I am against B5, on the contrary, I am very very
excited.  What I am against is the secrecy that seems to surround it.  I know
that that is changing, but I hope we learn more, quick, especially about this
network that Warner is starting.-  well this post is long enough, until next
time....

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"Yaa, I see where your goin';      | Eric Jeffery   
we shift down then kick hard       | 
into warp 9, yaa, come back        | (jeffery@ucsu.colorado.edu)  
fighten--WHOO WHEE!!               |  
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From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: deep space nine
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:05:15 EST
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

>Actually, the answer I've always assumed is this.  In TOS/Movie series,
>Klingons came from a relatively stable environment, Kling.  We see the
>destruction of the moon which would obviously release extreme amounts of
>radiation or at least deplete enough of Kling's own radiation protection
>(ie Ozone) to permit dangerous radiation to reach the planet's surface
>thereby mutating the inhabitants.  By the time the next generation rolls
>around, the mutations are to the point that the ridges are MUCH more prominent
>and mutations more apparent.  Maybe there was already a massive radiation leak
>that was going on from the time of TOS to the movie series that caused
>at least partial mutation.  Who can tell?  Comments???

<dripping with sarcasm> Watch it, or SCDUNCAN might flame you for this
TERRIBLY non-canon assumption!  Oh, BTW, SCDUNCAN is also-known-as Sean
C. Duncon, Idiot. (says so on his sig)

>My question is this?  Why wasn't there a death ceremony (group howl) for
>the Chancellor (or head Klingon) after his death in Star Trek VI?

Hmmm, they must have forgotten that technocality!  Perhaps they did not
have that ceremony back then, or simply did it before Kirk arrived.  Oh,
sorry, Gorkon was DYING then, but they didn't howl when he died...
Perhaps it was common knowledge that the Chancellor did not like to be
howled at...?  :-)


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From: jcomer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan C Comer)
Subject: Re: Star Trek VI: TUC
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:06:26 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.134740.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> matthews_k@cubldr.colorado.
edu writes:
>Spock's reference to his relative (Sherlock Holmes) is "apocryphal".
>It's from one of the novels, I can't remember the title, but it came
>right out and said that Amanda Grayson was descended from  Sherlock
>Holmes.  The novel was a kind of peculiar mix of Star Trek and Here
>Come the Brides, silly, but fun.  A time travel piece.  I'm sure that's
>where the reference came from.
>Kellie Matthews-Simmons
>Internet:  Matthews_K@CUBLDR.colorado.edu

I believe the novel referred to is _Ishmael_.  However, I don't recall any 
reference to Sherlock Holmes in it (but that was a long time ago and I'm 
already having trouble remembering the contents of TNG episodes when given only
the title!)

Jon
From: chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Chaim R. Dworkin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Patrick Stewart
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:42:16 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Jul09.143311.20071@norfolk.vak12ed.edu> dtraylor@norfolk.vak12ed.edu (David O. Traylor) writes:
>Star Trek is owned by Paramount Pictures and they keep a tight
>rein on it. If you want to write any of the TNG people send it
>to :       Paramount
>	    5555 Melrose Ave.
>	    Hollywood, CA 90038
>


What happens to letters written to Paramount?
Does anyone actually read them or are they trashed immediately?



Just curious.



Chaim R. Dworkin
chaim@linc.cis.upenn.edu
From: peterl@carson.u.washington.edu (Peter Loron)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: TV FAQ Site
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:12:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Could someone please email me the name of the anonymous FTP site that has
the FAQ files for various TV shows? Thanks.

Peter Loron                |  Before the invention of eruptions, lava had
Assistant Manager          |  to be carried down the mountain by hand and
HUB Computer Lab, C&C      |  thrown on the sleeping villagers. This took 
University of Washington   |  a lot of time.
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From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WHO'S HOTTER???
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:55:24 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <1992Jul22.233939.1@amherst.edu>, lalombard@amherst writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.222339.2528@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>, dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann) writes:
>> In article <92203.164222SXT115@psuvm.psu.edu>, SXT115@psuvm writes:
>>>    4. The Betazoid guy who was a negotiator for a wormhole... I think
>>>       it was the episode called "Who Counsels the Counselor?"
>> 
>> Wasn't that "Yesterday's Betazed"?
>
>	No, definately "Best of both Betazeds"

No, wait -- I remember now!  That was "Booby Trap"! :-}

-- 
You unlock this door with the key of imagination.  Beyond it is another
dimension: a dimension if sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind.
You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas.
You've just crossed over into... the Twilight Zone.
From: joses@cs.tamu.edu (Batman the Destroyer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Vulcans on ST:TNG
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:24:48 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University


Has anybody noticed that Vulcans are not as prevalent in ST:TNG as
in ST:TOS?
Out of all the episodes of ST:TNG, only the Unification I & II and
the episode when Sarek make the crew act weird have Vulcans on them.

Have the Vulcans gone on some type of sabatical or what? Do they not
wish to associate with the Federation as much anymore?


--
	Jose Salinas		|	"Religion is the opiate of the
	joses@cs.tamu.edu	|	 masses"  - Karl Marx
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From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Subject: Re: Poker
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:56:47 GMT

Distribution: na

In article <4590@daily-planet.concordia.ca> gfergus@alcor.concordia.ca (  
Glenn Ferguson) writes:
> 	Okay, this has been bothering me since I saw that episode.  Geordi
> mentions that they shouldn't use "infrared transparent cards" because he 
> can read them with his visor.  Now correct me if I'm wrong, but doesn't 
> infrared refer to infrared radation, which Websters defines as 
> "perceived as heat and is produced by or causes changes in the 
> vibrational and translational motions of atoms and molecules".  
> In other words, it responds to heat...different heat
> levels will produce different colour patterns on the cards. 
> So is Geordi saying that the clubs on a 2 of clubs card are hotter 
> than the rest of the card, thus allowing him to read it?  
> One would think that the cards would be of uniform
> heat, except in the places where they were last in contact with a person's
> hands (heat from the fingers).  I don't see how this would give Geordi any
> better insight into what cards his opponents are holding.            
> 	Anyone else have any ideas on this line?

How about... ?
The different colors (black,red white) absorb different amounts of heat.
These miniscule differences are different to Geordi through the backs 
of the cards if they aren't thick (or insulated) enough to wash out the
fraction-of-a-degree temperature differences.

john rickert
rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
 Picard Theorem: If f is an entire function and if there are  two distinct 
complex numbers which are not in the range of f, then f is constant.
 
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From: KDC@helix.nih.gov (Keith Cummings)
Subject: Re: Captain's Log
Organization: National Eye Institute, National Institutes of Health
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 20:05:03 GMT

Maybe he says the date because, traditionally, that is the format of ship's 
log entries.

Keith D. Cummings
National Eye Institute
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From: lalombard@amherst.edu
Subject: Re: Take 2 aspirin & call me in......
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst Mass.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:29:25 GMT

In article <7944@dirac.physics.purdue.edu>, hinson@maxwell.physics.purdue.edu (Jason W. Hinson) writes:
> In article <1992Jul29.081821.4767@gw.wmich.edu> adamsf@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> :Two weeks ago I saw an episode (cannot remember the name) where we found
> :an elderly couple left on a destroyed planet.....
> :
> :What is bugging me is the music that gave Troi such a headache. What was
> :the significance of the music?  The dear old all-powerful fellow left the
> :bridge, came back and said something like, "She is all right now." So???
> :Why was that particular music from the planet's surface bothering her?
> 
> It had nothing to do with the particular song. It was just the fact that
> it was continually playing in her head. Nothing she could do would stop
> it. It was even there while she slept.  That could drive anybody crazy.
>  
> -Jay

	But that piece of music was from the music box, wasn't it? - an old
heirloom the man owned, and showed to Picard and Worf.  Had a couple dancing
on the top, if I remember correctly.

Lisa
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From: nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn)
Subject: Re: Sirtis's English accent
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:51:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.231854.24245@umbc3.umbc.edu> cs106b16@umbc5.umbc.edu (cs106b16) writes:
>
>If you think it sounds like an english accent then your ears are out of wack!
>She may be of partial English decent, but is also of Greek decent and I believe
>that is mostly where her accent is derived.

Gee, that's really weird.  My mom's English, but I don't have an English
accent.  I've been robbed!

Marina Sirtis might be of partial Greek descent, but one's accent is not
determined by parentage.  She spent most of her adult life in England.
Her accent is English.


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From: goat@cats.ucsc.edu (The Black Watch)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:05:08 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


	Ro is by far a more intriguing woman than Troi... Beverly falls behind,
perhaps only because I'm too familiar with her. Yar is sorely missed, Troi and
her mum are merely flashy and annoying.
	Here's to Ro Laren! (swig)
-goat
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