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From: Flavio@dsif.fee.unicamp.br
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Wastebasket in OW3
Date: 10 Oct 92 20:53:02 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 16:01:00 EST
Message-Id: <9210101901.AA07142@dsif.fee.unicamp.br>


	
	I don't understand the reasons. The wastebasket of

	filemanager in OW3 don't "obey" my coordinates of

	placement. 

	I try to put it at the upper right corner but it

	stays at the upper left. I have already changed 

	the values in the .desksetdefaults file but it

	didn't work properly.

	Other users in our network have the same problem.

	I think it is a bug, isn't it?

	Thanks for help.

================================================================================
Flavio Araujo Junior					    Phone:(0192) 39-7961
Graduate Student and Network System Manager	 
Department of Semiconductors, Instruments and Photonics 
DSIF - FEE - UNICAMP
Campinas - SP - Brazil			       e-mail:Flavio@dsif.fee.unicamp.br
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From: hippler@mpiahd.mpi-hd.mpg.de
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Pointer control on 2nd display
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:36:02 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 17:30:27 +0100
Message-Id: <9210081630.AA19000@dxnhd1.mpi-hd.mpg.de>

Hi, 
who knows a good way to move a pointer (e.g. crosshair) on a
"second" non-X11 served display with the pointer on the primary X-11 served
(with mwm as window manager) display. The pointer on the second display can
be positioned by a simple c-routine e.g. movecur(x,y) where x and y represent
screen pixel coordinates. 
Any help and suggestions welcome.
/Stefan/

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From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Help on  X property
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:59:24 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: PictureTel Corporation

Date: 13 Oct 92 16:35:40 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct13.163540.21577@miki.pictel.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Oct13.091421.11445@dxcern.cern.ch> lefortp@dxcern.cern.ch (Pierre LEFORT) writes:
>Hi everybody,
>
>I have an application with many processes running on different displays and
>using X property to communicate.
>... my process reading the property is growing. 

XGetWindowProperty returns a pointer to the property value.
When your program is done with the property value, you
should call XFree.
From: sinclair@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Duncan Sinclair)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Type1 renderer screws up?
Date: 10 Oct 92 08:39:41 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

Date: 9 Oct 92 22:28:27 GMT
Message-Id: <BvvL3G.52x@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I'm getting some strange behaviour from the Type1 font renderer,
with all the latest patches installed. (MIT X11R5pl17+Type1 patches)

I've installed copies of some of the more regular Adobe fonts, like
Times and Helvetica, which work well, but sometimes can screw up bad.

By screw-up I mean that it just doesn't give me the font I asked for.
Either it's too big, or too small or is "r"oman, rather than "o"blique.

Let's look at examples of each case:

Too Big:
  Although the code suggests that the default resolution is 75, I
  find that the actual default appears to be 100dpi.  Using "xfontsel"
  and selecting between the resolutions leads me to this conclusion.

Too Small:
  This is a strange one.  By not specifing all the "-*-*-*" etc at the
  end of the pattern, or some various combinations of selections, the
  renderer comes out with some pretty ugly fonts.  e.g.
  "-adobe-helvetica-bold-o-normal--*-80-*-*-*"   and
  "-adobe-helvetica-bold-o-normal--*-80-*-*-*-*-*-*"  just don't look
  the same at all.

Wrong style:
  Playing around with "pxlsz", "ptSz" and various other bits of this font
  "-adobe-helvetica-bold-o-normal--*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*", can make the "bold"
  turn to "medium", and the "o"blique turn to "r"oman --- on screen.  The
  sizes are all over the place, one moment 12 pt, the next ~6 point.

I'm not an expert on the XFLD, but these things appear to be definite
bugs.  I'd very much like to offer these facilities to my users, but I
can't expect them to accept "play about with it till it works".

Does anyone else have these problems?

I'll submit a bug report if no one else has.  As soon as I know
it's not just my problem.



-- 
Duncan Sinclair                     |  Try one    sinclair@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk
Computing Science Research Student  |  of these:  sinclair@uk.ac.glasgow.dcs
University of Glasgow               |..!mcsun!ukc!uk.ac.glasgow.dcs!sinclair
           ---  Rave Culture: Don't techno for an answer.  ---
From: luisg@hadar.fai.com (Luis Galleguillos)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Resources Environment in X11R5
Date: 10 Oct 92 08:57:33 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Fujitsu NTS

Date: 7 Oct 92 21:12:14 GMT
Message-Id: <Bvrs8E.H9s@news.fai.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I have come accross the following X environment variable names to set or
point to the resources location for X11R5 clients:

XENVIRONMENT

XUSERFILESEARCHPATH

XAPPLESDIR

XFILESEARCHPATH


Assuming the directory /ufs/lib/X11/app-defaults

and an application let say xrn  with a resources file called

XRn in the above directory, how would one use each variable 

to direct the client xrn to find its resources?

Are there any other environment variables of this type?

Thanks in advance.


Luis
luisg@hadar.fai.com
From: jmeritt@rod.mitre.org (Jim Meritt)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: vttool -> X
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:38:09 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Mitre Corporation

Date: 15 Oct 92 20:16:03 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct15.201603.8279@linus.mitre.org>
Newsgroups: comp.sun.misc,comp.windows.x


I got a lot of milage out of vttool under sunview (buttons and screens
that would let me put varying code behind idiot buttons so the user
didn't have to remember escape sequences, for instance).  Is there an
X/motif-based equivalent that will let me give a button descriptor file
to a program to click on buttons and send commands to a shell window?

Please email me advice/comments.

James W. Meritt:  m23364@mwunix.mitre.org - or - jmeritt@rod.mitre.org
The opinions above are mine.  If anyone else wants to share them, fine.
They may say so if they wish. The facts "belong" to noone and simply are.
-- 
James W. Meritt:  m23364@mwunix.mitre.org - or - jmeritt@rod.mitre.org
The opinions above are mine.  If anyone else wants to share them, fine.
They may say so if they wish. The facts "belong" to noone and simply are.
From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: pixels values: how to get them from canvas
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:05:36 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: PictureTel Corporation

Date: 13 Oct 92 12:52:22 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct13.125222.21036@miki.pictel.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Oct9.140835.1012@sol.cs.wmich.edu> 52kaiser@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Matthew Kaiser) writes:
>how does someone find the value of a certain pixel on a canvas
>within a X window application?

Do XGetImage on a 1x1 image, then use XGetPixel to
retrieve the pixel value from the image.  

You might actually do better to use XGetImage just once,
then thereafter use XGetSubImage, to save the overhead
of creating the tiny little XImage structure each time
you retrieve a pixel value.
From: ivanyim@hgrd01.enet.dec.com ("I am ... Who cares!!!")
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Document about coding convention
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:50:37 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9210130907.AA15203@enet-gw.pa.dec.com>
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 02:24:11 PDT
Apparently-To: xpert@lcs.mit.edu

Hi,

I am trying to set up a coding convention/coding style for my team lately.  
I heard that there are some documents mention about it in MIT style.
Does anybody know that where I can find it?

Thanks,
-Ivan
From: elk@cblpo.att.com (elk)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Solbourne OI applications wanted
Date: 16 Oct 92 10:46:39 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs

Date: 13 Oct 92 20:55:43 GMT
Message-Id: <ELK.92Oct13155543@cblpo.att.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I've just come onto a server that has the Solbourne OI package
installed.  I like the windowmanager a lot (swm) and have an
application or two in mind to hack on it with.  Problem is, while I
have all the man pages and things, I have no information on the
history or other such info of the package.  Most notably, I'm
interested in finding a nice /contrib directory someplace (in the hope
that someone else has already taken the time to implement a few of
"my" notions and I won't have to).

Can anyone tell me anything else about this package?

Thanks!

--
+------------------------+  
|Ed King                 |  "More customers" means less time to fish.
|elk@cblpo.cb.att.com    | 
|                        | 	  -- Going to Extremes    
+------------------------+
From: APLer@cup.portal.com (Roland Walter Besserer)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Xterminals and Xterminal Emulation?
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:00:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

Date: Sun,  4 Oct 92 12:31:09 PDT
Message-Id: <67165@cup.portal.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


I can only comment on the products I have used, which are NCD and Wyse
X Terminals and DesqView/X on a 33MHz 386 PC.

Of the X terminals, NCD provides probably the best software and support
around. If price is a consideration, the Wyse X5 (monochrome, 1280x1024
17") can be had around $1200 and has performed flawlessly in our office
environment (we use about 7 or 8 if them).

My wife runs DesqView/X on her PC networked to my SPARC II system. 
DesqView/X needs at least 8MB but is a very nice environement. She runs 
a local OpenLook window manager, so in essence her PC looks pretty much 
like the SUN. We have found no problems with DVX. It has the added
advantage that it lets me run PC programs (such as MathCad) on the PC
with output locally in a SUN window - very nice.

roland
From: e-sink@uiuc.edu (Eric W. Sink)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Can't find a font
Date: 13 Oct 92 06:28:10 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:25:01 GMT
Message-Id: <BvvCLr.BFG@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp,comp.windows.x

BTW, with regard to the problem I just posted, about not being
able to find a certain font: I did check, and the font path
is set correctly for access to the font.

Sorry for the double post.

-- 
Eric W. Sink, Spyglass        | "You are the Pan."
1800 Woodfield Drive          |     - Rufio
Savoy, IL  61826              |
---- e-sink@uiuc.edu ---------|---------- 217-355-6000 -----------------------
From: oj@miki.pictel.com (Oliver Jones)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Getting the X Server to Use FS
Date: 7 Oct 92 08:23:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: PictureTel Corporation

Date: 6 Oct 92 13:09:56 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct6.130956.13959@miki.pictel.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Oct6.002109.7175@cs.ucla.edu> tek@pram.cs.ucla.edu (Ted Kim (Random Dude)) writes:
>Is there a way to get the R5 sample X server to make use of the font
>server? 

Yes, of course.  Put the font server in the display server's font path.

   % xset +fp tcp/fontservermachine:7000

Isn't this intuitively obvious?   :-)
From: gil@gradient.gradient.com (Gil Pilz)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X version of cscope(1)
Date: 13 Oct 92 11:09:23 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Gradient Technologies Inc., Hudson MA

Date: 9 Oct 92 20:24:54 GMT
Message-Id: <344@gradient.gradient.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Is there an X capable version of the cscope(1) command out there
anywhere ? I've checked the FAQ lists and this doesn't seem to be one
of them. Am I the only person who gets annoyed by the fact that I can
only see 9 lines of info no matter how big my window is ?
-- 
Gil Pilz                                     Voice: (508) 562-2882
Gradient Technologies, Inc.                    Fax: (508) 562-3549
577 Main Street, Suite 4                  Internet: gil@gradient.com
Hudson, MA 01749                              UUCP: uunet!gradient!gil
From: severloh@conware.de (Michael Severloh)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Books for X-Windows (X11) programming
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:13:17 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <m0mfpr4-0000DKC@sparc.conware.de>
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 12:28 MET

			
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From expo.lcs.mit.edu!xpert-mailer Fri Oct 16 12:13:13 1992
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:05:47 GMT
From: zahabi@discover.wright.edu (Bassem Zahabi)
Organization: Wright state University
Subject: Books for X-Windows (X11) programming
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
To: xpert@expo.lcs.mit.edu
Content-Length: 464

Hi everybody,

I am looking for some good books on X-Windows programming.

I know there are a lot of them in the bookstores (O'Rielly, etc..), but what I want
is a book that has enough pictures, figures, and codes that give you a clear idea 
of what you get when you finish writing the code.  

So far, I found O'Rielly the best among them. If you have a name of a book that fits
my description, please mail to:

zahabi@discover.wright.edu

Thank.X. much

-Bassem

-------------------
[[[[M.J.Severloh]]]]
                             Hi Bassem !

I myself highly recommend Naba Barkakati`s "X Window System (TM) Programming",
coming from Sams, Carmel, Indiana, in 1991. Well, I bought it in London that
year, and unfortunately I can`t tell for sure if there`s a new edition.
It`s got a heck of figures, quite informing.

Mike. //// blue cats only exist in Germany ////
email: conware.de!severloh
From: djgray@rodan.acs.syr.edu (David James Gray)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Simple problem with Xt[Va]AppInitialize?
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:03:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY

Date: 8 Oct 92 14:18:40 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct8.101840.8115@newstand.syr.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


Hello,

	I'm having trouble with Xt[Va]AppInitialize. It doesn't seem
to honor the XmNx or XmNy values I give it.  It sets them correctly
for the shell widget but the position is not reflected on the display.
All other resources are set correctly. I _must_ be missing something very
basic here.

	Currently, each time I start up my application the toplevel
shell is placed roughly 10 pixels lower and 10 pixels further right than
it was the previous time I brought it up. I don't have trouble setting
other shell or dialog coordinates.

I'm using Motif 1.1.3 with X11R4 (NOT the OpenWindows X server) on
a SparcStation 2 with a standard 19 inch SONY (via Sun) monitor. 

Here is what I've been trying:
===============
  top_shell_w = XtVaAppInitialize( &app, APP_NAME, NULL, 0,
                                     &argc, argv, My_Fallbacks,
                                     XmNiconName, "My Icon Name",
                                     XmNtitle, title,
                                     XmNminWidth,  355, 
                                     XmNmaxWidth,  455,
                                     XmNminHeight, 355,
                                     XmNmaxHeight, 355,
                                     XmNx, 0,
                                     XmNy, 0,
                                     NULL ) ;
===============


Please reply to djgray@rodan.acs.syr.edu.

Thanks in Advance!!

Dave Gray
djgray@rodan.acs.syr.edu
From: izeek@techunix.technion.ac.il (Ilan Aisic)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Need recommendation for X on IBM-PC (ya, i've been thru' FAQ!)
Date: 15 Oct 92 02:06:49 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology

Date: 14 Oct 92 15:38:52 GMT
Message-Id: <izeek.719077132@techunix.technion.ac.il>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

mece25q@elroy.uh.edu (Pakala, Rama R.) writes:

>I have gone thru' the FAQ list of X servers for IBM-PCs.  I would like to
>hear from netters about their experiences with X servers on IBM-486s. Especially
>the problems you have had, if any.
>That would help me greatly in choosing  from the list.
>Thanks.
>Rama Pakala.
>mece25q@jetson.uh.edu

I think DESQview/X is definitely the winner these days.  
I believe it's the only full X Window system while all the rest
are just X servers for the PC.  I saw the demo in UNIX Expo last
October and was really impressed.  I own a copy of the last 
version of X11/AT and I sincerely recommend against it. 
One more thing: Like almost all other heavy applications, you'll 
enjoy it only if you run on a high-end 386/486 PC.

Ilan Aisic
           In Israel                            In the USA:
Voice:   972-4-344474                         1-914-644-7710
Fax:     972-4-342492                         1-914-644-7763
E-mail:  izeek@techunix.technion.ac.il        ilan@allink.com
From: bobmcg@castle.ed.ac.uk (Bob McGonigle)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Postscript to European X User Group Conference
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:42:26 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Edinburgh University Computing Service

Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 13:11:22 -0400
Message-Id: <9210081711.AA27992@expo.lcs.mit.edu>

The recently held European X User Group conference and exhibition was
resounding success.  This is the fourth year the event has been held, and X
Windows continues to gain new ground and attract more players.

The exhibition was well-attended, with exhibitors offering a wide range of
X terminals, software development tools, training programmes and
connectivity products.  Exhibitors included NCD, Tektronics, V1, VisionWare
and IST.

Speakers addressed issues such as X for conferencing and group working;
current technological trends; X over slow lines; display PostScript and
graphics within X Windows.

Continuing the EXUG policy of inviting big names from the world of X, this
year three US-based experts headed the programme - Doug Young, Oliver Jones
and Bob Scheifler.  The programme included presentations by over 20
speakers, from eight countries.

Pre-conference tutorials proved a major attraction.  Subjects on offer this
year included 'Using C++ with Motif', Debugging X Programs', and a course
designed for newcomers to X - 'From Awareness to Understanding'.

The strength of interest shown in this year's conference has given a boost
to EXUG plans for 1993, including a rolling programme of tutorials,
seminars and workshops, to be held in centres in the UK and other EC
countries.

This year's proceedings are available for 30 pounds (inc.  P&P) from
EXUG, PO Box 458, Cambridge, CB3 8SD, Great Britain.  Payment by cheque
or credit card. 

For further information about the European X User Group and coming
events, telephone +44 (0)223 426534 or fax +44 (0) 223 420251.
From: Peter_Imants_Buttuls@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: No title in original
Date: 16 Oct 92 01:40:17 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 09:20:54 MDT
Message-Id: <3279666@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca>

We are trying to produce a screen dump of several 
applications running in windows under X (Can be Openwindows, etc.)
We have had no luck in the sense that the
grey tones don't show. It looks like a skeleton, just black
and white. The machine doesn't matter, whether it's a SUN,
NEXT, IBMRS6000, and the window manager can be either twm, olwm,
or mwm. We produced the dump from a colour machine, so maybe
that's what's wrong. The picture is to go into our bi-monthly
bulletin. Could someone suggest the exact procedure and 
commands to use because the deadline is approaching rapidly.
MANY THANKS.
 
Peter Buttuls, University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada 
e-mail:(userpib@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Average width for text.
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:26:41 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 05:27:48 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.052748.10043@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <1992Oct1.035709.8849@mel.dit.csiro.au>, jck@kimba.catt.citri.edu.au (Justin Kibell) writes:

> Unless I have missed it, I don't think you can get the average width
> of a char from any font or char structure like you can in windows (I
> am told).

What's the problem?  Why not just loop over all characters and compute
whatever sort of average you want?

More to the point, is this really a useful thing?  More likely what you
want is something like the average width per character over long
samples of English, or of C code, or of something else...

With all the different types of averages over various things, I think X
is correct in leaving it up to clients to compute whatever sort of
averages they may want.

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: Gocek.Henr801C@Xerox.COM (Gary Gocek 76260 - UI Systems)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Average width for text.
Date: 10 Oct 92 22:41:46 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Xerox Corp., Rochester, NY

Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:55:23 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct7.145523.346@spectrum.xerox.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


While I agree with der Mouse that the average width of characters in a font isn't generally
useful, the BDF standard specifies, and many BDF files contain, an AVERAGE_WIDTH property.
A particular system's font binaries may not carry this, but it's in the BDF files.

Gary
Gocek.Henr801C@Xerox.COM
From: barmar@think.com (Barry Margolin)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: MIT X11 under OpenWindows 3.0
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:24:52 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA

Date: 10 Oct 1992 04:10:45 GMT
Message-Id: <1b5l45INNqtl@early-bird.think.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.open-look

In article <1992Oct9.221219.8656@netcom.com> stevedav@netcom.com (Steve Davidson) writes:
>I have a requirement for two X11 files:
>
>/usr/local/lib/X11/libX11.a
>/usr/include/X11/X.h

>I have SunOS 4.1.2 with OpenWindows v3 which has its own
>implementation of X.  I cannot find the associated X11 files
>in OpenWindows v3.

Everything in OW is normally in /usr/openwin.  These two files are
/usr/openwin/lib/libX11.a (there's also a shared version) and
/usr/openwin/include/X11/X.h.
-- 
Barry Margolin
System Manager, Thinking Machines Corp.

barmar@think.com          {uunet,harvard}!think!barmar