HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: baker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Baker)
Subject: Coup
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 02:41:26 GMT

>	Peruvian President Alberto Fujimori, who has seized control of the
>government, was elected in 1990 in a tidal wave of economic discontent
>and deep disillusionment in the nation's traditional political parties....
>	Fujimori forged his own political party in 1988, Change '90, as an
>alternative to the established parties that were no longer palatable for
>many Peruvians....
>	Their common thread was a distaste for traditional politics ...
>	Fujimori's own economic proposals were vague. He promised to restart
>the nation's manufacturing sector and invigorate agriculture without
>offering specific details of how that would be carried out.

Remind anyone of a certain US Presidential candidate?  The Perotists
are free to be offended by this meaningless comparison, but I couldn't
resist.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,soc.culture.latin-america
From: colli_c@news.cs.odu.edu (Catherine Collingwood)
Subject: greetings from the underworld
Originator: colli_c@aelle.cs.odu.edu
Keywords: ignorance being removed
Organization: Old Dominion University Dept. of CS, Norfolk VA
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:25:25 GMT

Greetings from an old net-reader and a new net-poster.  Recently in my
Spanish (level III) class we did some material on United States inter-
vention in Central America and the Caribbean.  My teacher is from the
Dominican Republic and was there during the military action in the 
1960's.  He ended up by showing an [English] version of "Romero" (the
movie made about Oscar Romero in El Salvador).
Anyway, the majority of the class, including myself, was literally in
tears at the end of this unit.  It left us with a lot of questions.  My
biggest one is, and the topic I'd like to bring up is, what is the justi-
fication of the U.S. for having such things to their name as Fort Benning
Georgia and the removal of several elected leaders using military force
(Salvador Allende and Juan Bosch come to mind).  I'd really like to know.
I can either be e-mailed or you can respond by posting to news.  Thanks a 
lot.

Catherine Collingwood

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Catherine G. Collingwood                    colli_c@xanth.cs.odu.edu
"Lady Firebird"                             (future) Geology major,
NCSSM class of '92                          Old Dominion U., Norfolk, VA
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"Imagination is only intelligence having fun."   -Anonymous
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.individualism,alt.activism
From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Re: Class Warfare is STUPID: (Was: : Where Have All the Liberals Gone?)
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 10:23:44 GMT

In article <15199@drutx.ATT.COM> dlo@druwa.ATT.COM (OlsonDL) writes:
>In <167C3D822.KENH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>, kenh@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Ken Hudson):
>} In article <15146@drutx.ATT.COM> dlo@druwa.ATT.COM (OlsonDL) writes:
>} >In article <167C1FA94.KENH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> (Ken Hudson) writes:

>} >} 2) with no court
>} >} system to remedy a rip off by the seller;

>} >If there is a ripoff, that will be remedied later.  Government has no
>} >business forcing me or the other person to pay for court costs beforehand,
>} >when there is no evidence that a ripoff will occur.

>} Yes it does, since the court system must be in place...also, you are
>} paying for prosecution of people who ripped off other people and in
>} that event hopefully get them off the street BEFORE they rip you off.

>Again, those costs should be paid for those using the courts.  Just like
>hospitals being paid for by people who use their medical care.

So a poor person who gets beaten up by another poor person can't use the
courts to prosecute, since neither the victim nor the defendant can
afford to pay court costs?

>--
>David Olson ...!att!druwa!dlo
>"The American Republic will endure, until politicians realize they
>can bribe the people with their own money."  Alexis de Tocqueville

-- 
David M. Nieporent              |ALEast 92: 1.Baltimore 2.Boston 3.Toronto
niepornt@phoenix.princeton.edu  |4. Detroit 5.Milwaukee 6.NY 8.Cleveland
"Baseball stathead, and card-carrying member of the ACLU.  And proud of it."
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From: john@anasaz (John Moore)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.activism
Subject: Re: Ozone problem burns Politically Correct
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:25:20 GMT
Organization: Anasazi, Inc. Phoenix, AZ, USA

Keywords: 

In article <1992Apr12.211056.21928@anomaly.sbs.com> mpd@anomaly.sbs.com (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
>john@anasaz (John Moore) writes:
]>However, sometimes the reality happens to come down on their side, and
]>the ozone hole is one.
]
]That's debatable. Sure, there has been some measured decrease in
]atmospheric ozone isolated to particular regions of the world, but
]there is no evidence to prove that such depletions are man-induced.

Actually, there is a large amount of evidence that the depletions are
significant enhanced by human activity. The chemistry is known; theories
have been developed predicting certain chemistries in the stratosphere
based on this; measurements have been made (by U-2's) that find the
predicted chemistry.

To me, the only remaining question is the effect of the man-induced
ozone hole. Is there a significant increase in harmful UV as a result?
I have been unable to get an answer to this in several groups on the net.

]
]>Global warming is, to some extent, another in
]>that it is likely that some warming will occur as a result of man's
]>activity.
]
]Yeah, until you ask a global-warming advocate why the frost line in the
]United States has been moving progressively south.

Take a look at some basic physics, and some geological history, and
you will realize that it is highly unlikely that the substantial increase
in CO2 in the atmosphere will have NO significant effect.
-- 
John Moore NJ7E, 7525 Clearwater Pkwy, Scottsdale, AZ 85253  (602-951-9326)
john@anasazi.com ncar!noao!asuvax!anasaz!john anasaz!john@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
"Modern liberals are the termites in the structure of our society."
  John Moore
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From: dfpedro@nv2.uswnvg.com (Donn F. Pedro)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.mideast,alt.activism
Subject: Re: Where is B-CPU, you ask?
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:10:57 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc
Organization: US West NewVector, Bellevue, WA

In article <rdippold.701371918@cancun> rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) writes:
>spm2d@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Steven P. Miale) writes:
>>I sent mail to Alan. He is the originator of the connection; in other
>>words, he knowlingly, willingly, and admittedly set up the connection
>>for B-CPU. 
>
>So what's wrong with that?  I would hope that he wouldn't refuse
>anyone a connection, be they b-cpu, John Palmer, or even a Brown for
>President BBS.   The slime that comes out of b-cpu is no-one's
>responsibility but their own.

I don't think there is anything wrong with asking Alan, "why?"

I met you Alan, in Seattle at the Aids Walk (that was you, wasn't it),
so I have a face to go with the name.

Alan doesn't have to justify the connection or support b-cpu, but
I think it reasonable for some to ask. "why?"

>-- 
>Diplomacy: The art of fishing tranquilly in troubled waters.

Diplomacy: the art of saying 'nice doggie' whildst reaching 
	   for a *big* stick.



     Donn Pedro ...................{uunet, sequent, pn400}!uswnvg!dfpedro.
From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Ross Perot appearances
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:22:17 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1180012@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com> sheneman@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Jerry Sheneman) writes:
>Interested in finding out more about H. Ross Perot?  His
>scheduled appearances include:
>
>     April 11, 8:00 p.m. cst. =  C-SPAN I
>
>     April 16, check local time = LARRY KING LIVE

  I believe the Larry King show will be aired 6pm PST.  CNN always 
re-broadcasts the show again that evening- unfortunately around midnight or 
1am :-(

  Doug
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Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.activism,soc.rights.human
Subject: Re: Candidate Larry Agran Excluded, Arrested
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:51:12 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <9204110051.AA00211@wright.msi.cornell.edu>, harelb@MATH.CORNELL.EDU (Harel Barzilai) writes:
> 
>  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> Date: 08 Apr 92 09:38:04 EDT
> From: Agran for President <75300.3112@CompuServe.COM>
>  - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
> 
>        The statement that "117 people are running for President" is also
> false.  The truth is that there were only four active candidates on the
> Democratic primary ballot -- Agran, McCarthy, Brown and Clinton.

	While my estimate is wrong (the tally at this point is ~338) the main
point is correct.  There are far more candidates than can be afforded attention
by the media.  It is natural for them to concentrate on what their viewers want
to see.

>...
>        Regarding the statement, "It's THEIR party and THEY decide who is
> included."  Excuse me, but the Democratic Party does not belong to Bill
> Clinton or Jerry Brown or the Democratic National Committee.  It belongs to
> the millions of registered Democrats across the country.  THEY are the ones
> who should choose their party's nominee.  And the polls are showing that

	As they have been by voting for Brown, Clinton, Tsongas and NOTA
(uncommitted).

> most of them are quite dissatisfied with the "approved" candidates the DNC
> is permitting them to hear.  The problem with the Democratic Party is that
> it isn't democratic any more.

	Perhaps Agran needs to seek out a different party?

Brett
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From: solman@athena.mit.edu (Jason W Solinsky)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.elections,misc.taxes,alt.society.civil-liberty,pnw.general
Subject: Re: FW: news release: abolish IRS
Date: 8 Apr 92 05:07:23 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

In article <PMETZGER.92Apr6184039@snark.shearson.com>, pmetzger@snark.shearson.com (Perry E. Metzger) writes:

|>    They believe in repeal of compulsory vaccination laws and in the
|> 
|> We oppose laws forcing people to inject themselves with any substance
|> they don't want to be injected with just as we favor allowing them to
|> inject themselves with whatever they feel is best for them to inject
|> themselves with. We oppose slavery to the state of ALL kinds.

This is bad. If there is no vaccination law, then all people who are not
vaccinated should have to pay a tax which is given as compensation to those
people whop are vaccinated but catch it anyway. If you spread a disease to
somebody because you were negligent, you are responsible.

|> We don't hide our platform. Its available for anonymous FTP from
|> think.com, and has been for years. If you want to read it, go right
|> ahead. We encourage you to.

Isn't that TMC?? What's it doing there?

Jason W. Solinsky
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: The Nation on Clinton
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:43:21 GMT

marosen@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Mark Rosen) writes:
>Congress is about to pass a campaign reform bill, with provisions for
>Congressional campaigns and for presidential campaigns.

>Bush has promised to veto this bill.

So what are the specifics?  The last campaign "reform" bill made it
harder from challengers to raise money.  What does this one do?
-- 
If a government were put in charge of the Sahara Desert, within five
years, they'd have a shortage of sand.  -- Milton Friedman
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: rja@redwood26.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: Dumb, Sheltered College Puke
Originator: rja@redwood26
Keywords: WRONG NEWS GROUPS....
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Distribution: usa
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:20:52 CDT


In article <1992Apr13.225311.12105@kpc.com>, emmett@kpc.com (Emmett Kilgariff) writes:
> In article <3697@winnie.fit.edu> la049137@zach.fit.edu (David Rackmales (HCX Lab/SU90)) writes:
> >Nope. You're wrong.
> >
> >Make drugs legal, yes.  I'd rather have that than have the cops
> >beating up people.
> >
> >DO NOT MAKE TREATMENT A RESONSIBILITY OF THE GOVERNMENT!
> >Hey, I didn't force you to smoke that joint!
> 
> 	This is what scares me about legalization. It's very possible
> we'll have Joe Camel and Spuds McKenzie selling crack to our kids.

What scares me about the current drug prohibition is that kids
can make more money selling drugs than they can at legal work.
(The Bloods & Crypts are winning because they are much better 
financed than parents, schools and churches).  And once kids 
start making money they have to arm themselves to protect it 
(you can't exactly call the police if someone steals your drug 
profits).  And as the gang arms race excellerates, there's no
way of preventing innocent people from getting caught in the
crossfire.

I don't like the idea of Joe Camel and Spuds McKenzie selling 
crack to our kids (I think drugs should be legalised and regulated
like alcohal and cigarettes), but it sure sounds safer than the
open warfare resulting from drug prohibition.

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
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From: djk@Nitro.CtEdge.COM
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,ca.politics,ba.politics,alt.politics.homosexuality,soc.motss
Subject: Re: Straight Child molesters?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 16:24:40 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: NMS&Systems Engineering

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

> He's probably not the worst we have to deal with in our
> lives, but he's close enough so the differences aren't very
> important.
> 

Of course it is everyone else that has the problem... RIGHT JESS..


-djk

----
Daniel J. Karnes - djk@CtEdge.COM  / ..netcom!ctedge!djk
NMS&Systems Engineering, Lake Elsinore, CA. 92530
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Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,talk.politics.theory,alt.individualism
Subject: Re: FW: news release: abolish IRS
From: demon@desire.wright.edu (Stupendous Man)
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:25:08 EST
Organization: Demonic Possesions, Inc.

In article <1992Apr6.084808.10698@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, baker@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Andrew Baker) writes:
> In article <1992Apr4.085611.8063@eskimo.celestial.com> Corner.Core.Cafe writes:
>>
>>     The Libertarian Party is America's third largest and fastest growing
>>political party.
> 
> Is it really the fastest growing?  Is it growing at all?  By what measure:
> votes, money raised, TV and newspaper coverage, or what?  Please post the
> relevant statistics or retract this claim.
> 

	Probably in terms of new members.

> Personally, I think the Libertarian Party is a joke.  If they were serious
> about getting anything done, they would (1) work within the Republican
> Party, 

	Gack!  Too many rights infringements, too many facists.

> and (2) give up their extremist rhetoric.  Some medium amount of

	??? What about their message is "extremist"?

> money (say a million dollars) would yield far more publicity if it were used
> to back a candidate in the Republican primaries than it would if it were
> used to back a third-party candidate in the general election; the

	That is self-defeating.

> Libertarians could either run their own candidate or support one of the
> usual ones (say, a Du Pont or a Weld in '96).  Same goes for other offices
> besides the Presidency.  As someone once said, the Republican Party is
> a big tent, so another sideshow or a few more clowns wouldn't hurt.

	I imagine someone gave this advice to the Whigs also. :)

Brett
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Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc
From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: Why vote Libertarian?
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 02:15:46 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Apr7.171844.26947@morrow.stanford.edu> GA.JRG@forsythe.stanford.edu (June Genis) writes:

+>In article <visser.702600386@convex.convex.com>,
+>visser@convex.com (Lance Visser) writes:
+>>        Well, I would like to hear what libs think of the following
+>>changes:
+>>
+>>        1. Shareholders are directly liable for actions of the company.
+>>        Shareholders will function as the "deep pockets" for corporations
+>>        who cannot meet their obligations.  Shareholders who, for example
+>>        held the stock for any period of time while a company was
+>>        polluting (for example) a river, would be liable.....not just
+>>        the "current" set of shareholders.

+>Would the deepest pocket have to cover the losses for all other
+>shareholders who simply don't have the money to pay such a judgement
+>or would their liability be limited to the percentage of the company
+>that they held?  That is, could someone who owned 10% of the stick
+>be held liable for 50% of the judgement just because he had the
+>money to pay and the people who held another 40% of the stack sinply
+>didn't have the money to pay?

	I think limiting liability by a percentage derived from the maximum 
amount of stock/"ownership" held during the time the "damage" occured.
	I dont support the deep pockets beyond the level of ownership.




+>>        2. For all companies, public or private, there is no such thing
+>>        as limited liability for owners, officers or directors.

+>This is an area where there is disagreement among libertarians.
+>Some believe that limited liability is justified.  I tend to think
+>that the limit should be based on the percentage of the company you
+>own.  Going after people just because they have deeper pockets than
+>other people who are equally responsible tend to bother me.  I'm
+>sure there are many only variations of opinion on this subject.

	I tend to agree that it should be limited by percentage of ownership.
The basic point is that incorporation should not allow people or their
money to be shielded under the fiction that the company is responsible
and that they are not.  
	Officers of the company are a different matter though as they should
not be able to escape responsiblity based on not having a large position
in the companies stock.  Thinking about it again though, I think a better
mechanism would be for shareholders to collect damages from the officers
rather than having the original platiff collect from the officers.


Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,soc.history,alt.conspiracy
From: dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll)
Subject: Re: B-CPU Mail Path
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:26:27 GMT

Earlier, "Ralph Winston" asseted that B-CPU had no mail connectivity to
the network.  In fact, he was lying - my test message got through.  Here's
the header of the reply from the B-CPU sysop:

> From b-cpu!maynard@agora.rain.com  Sat Apr  4 02:37:46 1992
> Return-Path: <b-cpu!maynard@agora.rain.com>
> Received: from previous.rain.com by doe.carleton.ca (4.0/SMI-4.0)
> 	id AA28645; Sat, 4 Apr 92 02:37:46 EST
> Received: by previous.rain.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.25.1 #25.4)
> 	id <m0lX5KO-00007dC@previous.rain.com>; Fri, 3 Apr 92 23:38 PST
> Received: by agora.rain.com (/\==/\ Smail3.1.21.1 #21.6)
> 	id <m0lX0s4-0001IGC@agora.rain.com>; Fri, 3 Apr 92 21:52 EST
> Received: by b-cpu.UUCP (1.64/waf)
> 	via UUCP; Fri, 03 Apr 92 18:15:12 PST
> 	for dfs@doe.carleton.ca
> To: dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll)
> Subject: Re: Test
> From: b-cpu!maynard (Maynard)
> Comments: Hear doze KWAYZIE sounds!
> Message-Id: <1FPoiB3w164w@b-cpu.UUCP>
> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 92 18:15:11 PST
> In-Reply-To: <9203312008.AA10158@pulaski.doe.carleton.ca>
> Organization: Banished CPU, +1(503) 232-6566
> Status: OR

So, if you want to bounce Ralphie's articles back at him (not that I recommend
it, no, never! :-)), don't use the "Reply" feature of your news reader - it
won't work.  Instead, mail the words of wisdom to:

	agora.rain.com!b-cpu!ralphw        or
	b-cpu!ralphw@agora.rain.com        or
	b-cpu!maynard@agora.rain.com

Happy connectivity!  And may the best flooding algorithm win. :-)

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