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From: d_north@ondec.lonestar.org (David G. North, CCP)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Submitting Jobs for Last Day of Month
Date: 26 Aug 92 06:56:29 GMT
Organization: onDEC systems, Dallas, TX

In article <1992Aug25.102008.28397@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca>,
  jmacdonald@mta.ca writes:
> I am wondering if anyone has a nifty way to have jobs submit themselves
> for the last day of the month.  Thank-you.
Ok... the problem is basically to figure out what the next EOM is, then do a
submit/after etc.  I've seen some interesting solutions, but I have yet to see
one that's a straight 'expression' rather than having a requirement for some
additional lexical component such as tables of months or what not.  Following
code is most likely not the easiest way to do it, but it is a straight
expression.
$ write sys$output "Next EOM is: ",-
          f$ele(0," ",f$cvtime(f$fao("+!UL-0",34-f$cvtime(,,-
          "day")-f$cvtime(f$fao("+!UL-0",34-f$cvtime(,,"day")),,-
          "day")),"absolute"))

Following is the 'expanded' version of the above so it's a little clearer
what's happening:
$ _dom1 = f$cvtime(,,"day")
$ _dom2 = f$cvtime(f$fao("+!UL-0",34-_dom1),,"day")
$ write sys$output "Current day of month is: ''_dom1'"
$ write sys$output "34 days past first of this month is day number ''_dom2' of next month"
$ _neom = f$ele(0," ",f$cvtime(f$fao("+!UL-0",34-_dom1-_dom2),"absolute"))
$ write sys$output "Next EOM is: ''_neom'"
-- 
David G. North, CCP
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onDEC systems                                 "Everyone's crazy but you & me...
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Help with local command for C link
From: don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes)
Date: 3 Sep 92 10:15:06 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Wolery

acm@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu writes:
>    This fixes problems that DCL hacks introduce such as trying to get the
> following command to link the correct files and produce to correct .EXE
> 
>   $ LINK /debug PROG1,SUB /EXE=PJ2,SUB2/NOSYSSHR,SYS$SYSTEM:SYS /STB/MAP /FULL
> 
>    A DCL command file that can correctly parse out the above line or similar
> ones would indeed be a very creative work of art.

Ummm...

CLINK.COM:
$ set symbol/scope=noglobal
$ p1 = p1 - "%"
$ link 'p1' 'p2' 'p3' 'p4' 'p5' 'p6' 'p7' 'p8' /options=SYS$INPUT:
SYS$SHARE:VAXCRTL.EXE/SHARE
$ exit

in SYLOGIN:
$ LINK :== "@wherever:CLINK %'"	! note trailing single quote

The limitations are: you can't use SYS$INPUT for an additional options 
file and you can't have more than eight "parameters".  Note the "parameters"
are defined as "things with spaces in between"; in most cases a bunch of
comma separated files and a heap of qualifiers will actually appear as one
parameter.

--
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Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052
From: Ian.Parker@f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Ian Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Wanted: Source code cont
Date: 24 Aug 92 16:24:06 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


 On 08-19-92 Natalie Prowse wrote to All... 
 
 i > Hi all, 
 i >  
 i > Well, it's high time we did it.  Things are getting out of hand. :-} 
 i > We need some sort of source code control system, and/or software 
 i > project management package.  I am looking for input and suggestions 
 i > from anyone out there who uses such products.  They can be PD or 
 i > commercial.  Our primary project is coded in C, and an in-house 
 i > Fortran dialect.  (It is well over 100K lines of code, and growing.) 
 i > Any product we use will have to be able to cope with these languages, 
 i > or be tailorable.  (is that a word? ;-) Any and all suggestions or 
 i > words of warning/wisdom are welcome.  If I get enough 'me too!' 
 i > responses, I will summarize to the net.

 i >  
 
Natalie  
 
Please summarise to the net.  I'd like to know what the current views are. 
 
I like DEC's Code Management System (for it's integration with MMS). 
 
I used it as the base for a source code control and release system for  
a major bank.  Our particular concern was to be able to provide localised  
production releases for target systems in different countries, and to  
allow those countries to layer on their own, further, customisations. 
 
What I didn't like was that it needed too much manual management to share 
core/common code between (i) localisations of a project and (ii) different  
projects.  We used groups to collect related sources, andn classes to 
describe release versions (so we could restore any earlier release).  But 
it got very cumbersome.  I kept thinking that may it would be easier to  
store the code in directories, i.e. I wanted a tree structure to control 
the sources. 
 
I said above that I like CMS for it's integration with MMS, but in the  
above application we didn't use MMS.  Instead we had to write a an 
automatic build program (like MAKE/MMS but without the intelligence)  
to satisfy the audit department's security requirements over release  
control. 
 
Please keep me informed on what you find out, in particular anything 
relating to the release/packaging of production versions. 
 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: newsmgr@exodus.valpo.edu
Subject: Memory quota problem
Organization: Valparaiso University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 21:00:49 GMT
X-Posted-From: exodus.valpo.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

We have a slight problem here.  We have an application (ANU-NEWS) which seems
to be a real memory hog.  I have seen it take up to 6000 pages of memory to
run.  Our students are limited to 2048 pages of memory.  As soon as that is
full, the process begins taking up large amounts of CPU time just to do the
page faulting.  According to MONITOR the page fault rate tops 10,000.  What we
would like to do is set up this one process to allow for a larger memory quota,
but keep other programs running within the 2048 limit.  I thought there should
be a priv for this, but I did not find one.  Does anyone have any suggestions? 
The source of the program can be changed if neccessary, but that would not be
preferable.  Thanks in advance.  Private responses are fine and I will
summarize to the net if there sufficient interest.

			     Eric W. Vaandering

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From: adelman@TGV.COM (Kenneth Adelman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: PAKGEN software (Was: will lmf will alpha?)
Date: 25 Aug 92 23:03:22 GMT
Reply-To: Adelman@TGV.COM (Kenneth Adelman)
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> I couldn't agree more.  And all of us should pressure our vendors to abandon
> custom key/authorization code implementations for LMF.

    As a vendor which has shipped over 20,000 PAKs and thousands of
pieces of media in the past three months I can tell you that LMF has
been a godsend.  MultiNet V3.1 was the first software we released
which supported LMF, and also the first software distributed on
CD-ROM.  Prior to the release we sent out a customer questionaire
detailing our records of each customers' configuration and inviting
them to get any errors corrected prior to the release; this resulted
in a minimum of problems caused by incorrect PAKs being issued.  It
also made distribution on CD-ROM possible, as well as opened a lot of
opportunities for customers to evaluate products which they hadn't yet
licensed but were available on the CD-ROM, and removed a prior problem
we had with mixed configurations in a cluster (some products licensed
for some machines).

    Do our customers like it?  Well, we only hear the complaints;
license management tools are primarily for the vendor's benefit and
the customer pays the administrative cost(s) associated with entering
the license data.  The customer needs to consider, however, that the
result is that we can provide better service; the purchase of a new
product no longer requires the shipment of new media and
re-installation of the product.  I suspect that our customers prefer
LMF to some other scheme of similar functionality; they already know
how to use LMF (as is demonstrated by the relatively infrequent "What
do I do with this PAK?" support call).

    After three months of experience from the vendor side of LMF
we have absolutely no regrets about having used it and wished we'd
used it earlier.

> How about pressuring DEC to abandon the truely RIDICULOUS price for the
> PAK generation software? or to provide a reasonably priced, publically
> accessible, PAK generation service?  or to allow some third party to set
> up such a service?

    Only the list price is steep. If you're a DEC Independent
Software Vendor (ISV) you get a substantial discount off the list
price. I'd say that so far we've spend about $0.20/PAK for the PAKs
we've generated. Very reasonable. I believe anyone who write software
for DEC computers can become an ISV (call 800-DEC-ISVN).

> The PAK generator prices are too bad if you can resell.  DOes the contract prohi
> |bit your
> reselling pak generation?

    I don't recall if it prevents you from reselling a PAK generation
service, but it would be with your producer code.  One license for
PAKGEN gives you one PAK which has a product token of which
PRODUCER/ISSUER pair you're allowed to issue PAKs under.  For example,
our PAK has a product token of "TGV~TGV". I don't see how any software
vendor would find such a service an advantage (in price) over doing
it in house (with full control).

							Ken
From: Ian.Parker@f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Ian Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: QUESTION: Modem conn
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:25:10 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


 > 
 > I've connected to a VS3100 via TTA2: a ZyXEL 1496. 
 > 
 > After typing 
 > $ SET HOST/DTE/SPEED=9600 TTA2: 
 > I can now type in 
 > 
 
I've just seen this message.  I have another related question: 
 
Using the above configuration, do I need any unusual cabling to 
connect the modem to the port for inbound connections from off-site,  
dial-up access?  I have a similar configuration which provides successful  
access about one time in four.  The other times the modem may answer, but 
I hear no "whistle" and I lose the call, or the modems start to synchronise  
and then after a second or so the line drops.   
 
I've tried a different modem with the same result. 
 
Any ideas appreciated 
 
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From: VANCE%TOYVAX@ARIZONA.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Misplaced files in VMS V5.5 upgrade
Date: 2 Sep 92 08:55:16 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


   FYI:

   In cleaning up my system disk, I noticed some files that were misplaced
   during the VMS V5.5 upgrade (specifically during the Mandatory Update):

      DECW$DEVICE_GF.COM
      DECW$PRIVATE_SERVER_SETUP.TEMPLATE

   These files are mistakenly placed in SYS$COMMON:[SYSMSG] (SYS$MESSAGE)
   when they should have been placed in SYS$COMMON:[SYSMGR] (SYS$MANAGER)

   It looks like there were typos in the .VUF files in the VMSINSTAL kit.

   Also in SYS$MESSAGE... the new EPC$MSG.EXE file (dated 17-OCT-1991) is
   given a lower version number than the one existing before the upgrade.

   Vance Haemmerle                              vance@vips.lpl.arizona.edu
   Systems Support Analyst, Senior              vance%toyvax@arizona.edu
   Lunar & Planetary Lab
   University of Arizona
From: ccdarg@dct.ac.uk (Alan Greig)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VAX SW list (missing part)
Date: 2 Sep 92 09:29:58 +0100
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

In article <9209011032.AA02408@image.uky.edu>, cdavis@BME1.IMAGE.UKY.EDU (Charles Davis VA) writes:
> Please resend part 1 of the August list.  Either I never received it
> (the SUN I'm on has a mind of its own) or I wrongly deleted it.
> Thanks!
> 
> Charles Davis
> cdavis@bme1.image.uky.edu

Presumably that was the part that says don't post out to the entire
list a request for a missing part :-)
-- 

Alan Greig                            Janet: Alan@UK.AC.DUNDEE-TECH
Dundee Institute of Technology	      Tel: (0382) 308810
From: DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU (Dan Wing)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Memory listing
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:26:40 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Raj Jathar, rdj@bass.bu.edu, wrote:

>When I did a show memory this is the listing I obtained :-
>
>
>              System Memory Resources on 28-AUG-1992 18:44:40.69
>
>Physical Memory Usage (pages):     Total        Free      In Use    Modified
>  Main Memory (32.00Mb)            65536       36315       28616         605
>
>  Bad Pages                        Total     Dynamic  I/O Errors      Static
>                                   16384           0        8192        8192
   ^^^^^^^^^
You should NEVER see this.  You have some bad memory.  Call your HW support,
and don't use this system until the bad memory is replaced (that includes
you performing system management).

[...]

>Paging File Usage (pages):                      Free  Reservable       Total
>  DISK$VAXVMSRL054:[SYS0.SYSEXE]SWAPFILE.SYS
>                                                6296        6296        6296
>  DISK$VAXVMSRL054:[SYS0.SYSEXE]PAGEFILE.SYS
>                                               17613      -12611       30000
>
>Of the physical pages in use, 4294964587 pages are permanently allocated to VMS.
                               ^^^^^^^^^^
this number can't be larger than your total memory!! (which is 65536 pages 
according to the top of your SHOW MEMORY display).

>While most of the stuff is either self-explanatory or intuitively
>clear, I'm not quite sure what to make of the negative value.  Is that
>simply because of a subtracted offset, or is it the complement or a
>simlarly trivial addressing question?

Each user is allowed to use up to PGFLQUOTA (a SYSUAF value) pages of the
page file.  (Processes have a similar limit).  When a process is created,
the system deducts the PGFLQUOTA value from the "reserved" value in the
page file.  The "reserved" value isn't significant, and should be ignored --
it just means "if all proceses used up ALL the virtual memory they are 
allowed, your page file would be 12611 pages too small."

You should, instead, compare the "free" value, when the system is heavily
loaded, with the "total" value.  You should have at least 50% of the page 
file free.

>I welcome all suggestions - not limited to the questions raised, but
>rather any advice, routine or otherwise, that may save me a lesson or
>two learnt the hard way.

Know, and use:

  $ SHOW ERROR           which, on your system, probably lists MEMORY errors
  $ ANALYZE/ERROR        gives you details about all errors
  $ ANALYZE/DISK         reports file-system related problems

-Dan Wing, DWING@UH01.Colorado.EDU or WING_D@UCOLMCC.BITNET (DGW11)
 Systems Programmer, University Hospital, Denver
From: hornlo@OKRA.MILLSAPS.EDU (Larry Horn)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Undocumented MAIL qualifier
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:13:20 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>>feature and it works fine.  The only pet peeve I have about it is that all
>>binary information is sent about a file except for its name.  If you want to

I would like an additional header field that showed the original filename,
but *please* don't ask for automatic naming during extraction <grin>!
[ LOGIN.COM, MAIL.MAI, SYSTARTUP_V5.COM, SYSUAF, ... what a field day! ]

Larry Horn / Millsaps College / hornlo@okra.millsaps.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: gvrod@isuvax.iastate.edu (R Eldridge, VMS FOREVER)
Subject: Re: Librarian Question..............
Reply-To: gvrod@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 14:19:29 GMT

|bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King) writes:
| 
| Is it possible to specify a $ LIBRARY command that will search
| for the module mame you are only interested in.
          ^^^^^^^^^^^
| 	eg.  *dump* 
| 
| $ LIBRARY /MACRO sys$library:starlet.mlb  *dump*     WOULD BE NICE IF
| 							IT WORKED.

to search for a module name, can you specify:
                ^^^^^^^^^^^
  $ library/macro/extract=*dump* sys$library:starlet.mlb/out=dump.mar

|ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts) writes:
|The program you're looking for is called LIBSEARCH.  It's mentioned in the
|monthly software posting.  Perhaps it needs to be put on a DECUS tape or on
|vmsnet.sources.  Seems like there's a backlog to vmsnet.sources though.  I
|posted something (TIME) a few days ago and it hasn't made it back here yet.
|If you can suggest a site that will accept an anonymous ftp upload, I'll make
|it available for you.

if you are searching for the string *dump* in any or all of the modules in
                             ^^^^^^
library, then indeed you need to use the LIBSEARCH program.

rod eldridge
vms systems support      gvrod@isuvax.iastate.edu
iowa state university    gvrod@isuvax.bitnet    
(515) 294-7498           fax: (515) 294-1717

Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:14614 vmsnet.sources.d:577
From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.sources.d
Subject: Re: Seeking "buffer recall > 20 commands" patch
Date: 4 Sep 92 16:53:37 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Sep4.091840.1@uwovax.uwo.ca>, brent@uwovax.uwo.ca (Brent Sterner) writes:
>    Could some kind soul point me to the appropriate patch for DCLTABLES
> (I think) to extend the recall buffer beyond 20 commands for VMS 5.5?
> Further, do you know if the patch is valid with 5.5-1?
> --

Actually, you're patching DCL.EXE.  My program that performs the patch
will work on all versions of OpenVMS VAX v4.0 and up.  It should
continue to work until DEC changes the way they're doing things,
which they haven't done in all these years....

The program patches DCL.EXE so that up to 62 commands can be RECALLed
or access through the arrow keys.

You can get it via anonymous ftp from ftp.spc.edu ([192.107.46.27]);
you'll need:

	[.MACRO32]LZDCMP.EXE
	[.MACRO32.SAVESETS]DCL_RECALL.BCK_Z

To get it via e-mail, send the command SEND DCL_RECALL in the body of
a mail message to FILESERV@WKUVX1.BITNET.

You can also find it on the most recent SIG tape, I think, and in the
vmsnet.sources archive at white.cerritos.edu.

Hunter
------
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goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET, 502-745-5251
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: rla@netcom.com (Robert Armstrong)
Subject: "Autologin" for DECwindows ??
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 04:41:50 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Keywords: DECwindows login

  I have a VAXstation with VMS V5.5 and DECwindows/Motif. The machine is used
for a dedicated purpose and I would like to arrange it so that when the
machine boots, DECwindows automatically logs in under a specific account.
Ideally DECwindows should start up all the defined autostart applications
for this account.  It would be just like the user entered the account and
password in the log in box immediately after the machine booted.  Can this
be done ?

Thanks,
Bob Armstrong
rla@netcom.com


Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: Jeff E Mandel <mandel@tmc.tulane.edu>
Subject: Re: What causes this DECNet OPCOM message? (summary)
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6CA900264013009@mandel.anes.tulane.edu>
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-20899]: mandel.anes.tulane.edu
X-Xxdate: Wed, 2 Sep 92 21:36:34 GMT
Organization: Tulane University School of Medicine
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 20:36:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.195743.5331@cs.tulane.edu> Jeff E Mandel,
mandel@tmc.tulane.edu writes:
>I have been getting a lot of messages to my operator console lately of
>the form:
>
>DECnet event 0.7, aborted service request
>From node 1.210 (ANESTH), 31-AUG-1992 15:50:28.54

Thanks for all of the replies. On further investigation, I have
determined that the vast majority of the 179 messages came from the
period between 1100 and 1200 on 26-AUG-1992, and were from a group of
DECServers and a DECRouter.  As I recall, we took some serious power hits
here about then as a result of Andrew. I guess I should ask FEMA for
assistance in clearing out all of the paper that spewed out of my LA-50.

As to why I've been getting the messages, I have Pathworks on my machine,
and haven't turned off the remote boot service.

Thanks for all who responded

Jeff E Mandel MD MS
Associate Professor of Anesthesiology
Tulane University School of Medicine
New Orleans, LA

mandel@vax.anes.tulane.edu
From: rlmeyering@beckman.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Submitting Jobs for Last Day of Month
Date: 3 Sep 92 23:27:29 GMT
Organization: Beckman Instruments, Inc.

In article <5661244@zl2tnm.gen.nz>, don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (Don Stokes) writes:
> dongray@cdclu1.genrad.com writes:
>>   $  submit file.com /after="''f$cvtime(f$fao("1-!AS-!SL-1-0:0:0",
>>   f$extr(f$cvtime(,,"month")*3,3,"XXXFEBMARAPRMAYJUNJULAUGSEPOCTNOVDECJAN"),
>>   f$cvtime(,,"year")+f$cvtime(,,"month")/12),"absolute")'"
>> 
>> I leave it as an exercise for the reader to make a more practical solution :-)
>> ...and avoid the pathological case. (Try running it at 31-JUL-1992 23:59:59.99).
> 
> $ submit file.com/after="1-''f$extract(2,8,f$cvtime("1-+31-","ABSOLUTE"))':0:5"
> 
> No tricks, no shortcuts, no truncated symbols, no pathological cases, 
and more importantly...NOT THE SOLUTION TO THE POSTERS REQUEST. The 
poster wanted the ability to submit the job on the last day of the month not 
the first day of the following month. ;-)

> and I also remembered to allow five minutes for out-of-sync clocks across the 
> cluster... 8-)
> 
> --
> Don Stokes, ZL2TNM (DS555)                        don@zl2tnm.gen.nz (home)
> Network Manager, Computing Services Centre            don@vuw.ac.nz (work)
> Victoria University of Wellington, New Zealand              +64-4-495-5052
From: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Linking problem!!!!!!! HELP!!!!!!!!
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:39:45 GMT
Reply-To: winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua NH


In article <1992Aug27.170155.20519@netnews.alf.dec.com>,
kendrix@peachs.enet.dec.com (John R. Kendrix) writes:
|>
|>In article <1992Aug27.020537.18155@rdg.dec.com>,
|>winalski@adserv.enet.dec.com (Paul S. Winalski) writes...
|>
[incorrect answer to the D_FLOAT/G_FLOAT compatibility problem omitted]
|>
|>What about doing a cc/define="CC$mixed_float" when compiling all of the G_Float 
|>stuff...  Will that work??

You're correct--CC$MIXED_FLOAT is the way to solve this problem.  My answer
was badly out-of-date.

--PSW