HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: shrum@eos.arc.nasa.gov (Rick Shrum)
Subject: Re: Phil Stromer
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr, Calif.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:17:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.172809.24414@infoserv.com> root@infoserv.com (Postmaster) writes:
>Pro-wrestling fans,
>
>First of all, please accept my apology for posting this administrative
>trivia, but from the complaints I received from this group about Phil
>Stromer's posting, I can only conclude it is of sufficiently general
>interest to the group.
>

Yes; thanks for posting.


>Phil Stromer's account has been restored. He has promised in writing to
>never again post to this group while he has an InfoServ account (this
>means he will not post even from another host which has a totally unrelated
>account).
>

Cha.


>After reviewing the complaints, the InfoServ administrators agreed unanimously
>that his postings were not appropriate for this group. However, he is also
>active in other groups from which we have neve rec'd a single complaint.

Which groups; alt.test?


>Therefore, we could not, in the free-speech spirit of the Net, censor him
>from those other groups (there just ain't no justification for that).
>

Fair 'nuff.


>Also, in fairness to Phil, he claims that many people in this group are on
>his side.

I think what he actually said was, some guys were behind him.(*)
<sorry>


 So, please decide democratically among yourselfs if you want
>him back. I have heard only one side so far; if there is a second, I would
>like to hear it. But please, email me results only; not individual votes.
>
>thank you,
>

Well? I for one have mixed feelings about this. Stromer is obviously
way out of line, and has subjected this group to his venomous spew
on numerous ocassions. After he was fired from Sun it appeared he
was gone for good, but recentlyu he has resurfaced, saying he had done
a face turn. That lasted exactly 1 post, then it was back to the same
olde thing. I said that I had mixed feelings because I hate to see 
someone censored just because we don't like what he is saying.Someone
in fact may take exception to my joke earlier on in this post(*).I did 
this to illustrate a point. Should I be kicked off too, or is it a matter
of intent and eccess?
I'll listen to other's comments b-4 finalizing my opinion.

   

>P.S. I also promise never to post to this group again also ;-)
>

Aw, c'mon; who do you think will win the Royal Rumble?! ;^)


>postmaster@infoserv.com
>

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From: jewell@Data-IO.COM (Cal Jewell)
Subject: Re: Radio wrestling talk
Followup-To: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Organization: Data I/O Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:59:22 GMT

In article <5104.137.uupcb@ssr.com> dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer)  writes:
#   >  There is a nationwide syndicated sportstalk radio network called
#   >American Forum ( I think based in Las Vegas). They have a variety of
#   >sports talk shows during the day and night. Saturday night between
#   >9-10PM there was a show called Wrestling Insiders( or something like
#   >that) hosted by Mike Tenay(sp?).
#
#Tenay has been an insider for years.  He knows his stuff.

Dave,

Do you know Mike Tenay? Or, do you know of him?

The reason I'm asking is that I've tried to find the Wrestling 
Insiders radio show in the Seattle area and I haven't had any luck. 
If you know Tenay, perhaps you could ask him for a list of the 
stations that carry his show. I'm sure he'd be glad to help.

Heck, you could send me Tenay's address and I would be glad to write
him and ask for the stations that carry his radio show.


-- 
Cal...
                                    "Do not taunt Happy Fun Ball."
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From: jnelson@iastate.edu (Jeremy F Nelson)
Subject: Re: FAQ Update
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:03:08 GMT

In article <1gs31aINN2lu@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> au414@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sean P. Ryan) writes:
>
>It's also amazing that none of these people seem aware that
>news.answers exists, either.  I did inform Chris of this newsgroup
>and its purpose last year, even giving him an e-mail address to
>contact for information.  Guess he didn't consider it that important.
>Oh well.

I read news.answers.  I even posted our FAQ to it!
I got turned down.. The moderator didnt think our group was serious 
enough to post our FAQ on his newsgroup.

Back to square one.

Jeremy Nelson

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From: clay@hydra1f.cs.utk.edu (Clay Breshears)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Smoky Mountain Roster
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:21:25 GMT
Reply-To: clay@cs.utk.edu
Organization: Ragnarok Cafe -- Jotunnheim
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra1f.cs.utk.edu

For those of you wanting a scorecard, here is the Smoky Mountain Wrestling 
line-up as of September 20, 1992.


Faces                     Heels
=====                     =====
Tim Horner                Dirty White Boy [Heavyweight Champ]
Brian Lee                 Killer Kyle
Ronnie Garvin             Paul Orndorf
Danny Davis 
Dixie Dy-no-mite

Tag Teams
=========
Faces: 
	Rock and Roll Express (Robert Gibson & Ricky Morton)
	Fantastics (Bobby & Jackie Fulton)
	Danny Davis & Dixie Dy-no-mite [usually as jobbing team]

Heels:
	Stud Stable (Robert Fuller & Jimmy Golden)
	Heavenly Bodies (Stan Lane & Tom Pritchard) [Tag Team Champs]

Current Feuds
=============
Brian Lee is being stalked by Mystery Man with $10,000 on Lee's head
Ronnie Garvin and Paul Orndorff
Rock & Roll Express and Stud Stable (ending)
Rock & Roll Express and Heavenly Bodies (beginning)
Time Horner and Dirty White Boy
Fantastics and Heavenly Bodies (ending)

Jobbers
=======
Robbie Eagle, Ben Jordan, Mike Sampson, Reno Riggins, Paul Lee, 
Newton Steffie, Joe Cazana, Rick Newsome. 

Managers
========
Ron Wright -- Dirty White Boy (DWB is helping pay for medicine and the
              hip operation, out of his earnings as SMW Champion, for 
              Wright to get him out of the wheelchair he is in.)
Jim Cornette -- Heavenly Bodies, Killer Kyle


SMW Commissioner: "Bullet" Bob Armstrong

Announcers: Bob Caudle and "Dirty" Dutch Mantell



[Amazing, sometimes, the kind of action and heat you can get out of 
just 16 wrestlers and 6-8 jobbers.]



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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WWF Changing face
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 00:23:25 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP> writes:

> <JRW123@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
> > newcomers have any weird grimmicks? I rest my case.
>  
> Max Moon comes to mind. So does Yokozuma. And how about Damian (Mondo Kleen) 
> Demento?
 
And there's always Nailz, the Samoan Headshrinkers, Lance Cassidy (please 
don't ressurect the Singing Cowboy, Vince. PLEASE!), Dink (or Doink) the 
Clown, and Jerry "The King" Lawler.
 
No, I'm not schizophrenic.
 
--Don

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From: jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Backlund's return <was: Wrestlemania Main Event>
Date: 16 Dec 92 11:06:27 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <mjenkins.724449534@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
> 1) Bob's return coincided with Vince's decision to return the WWF to
> wrestling from entertainment (at least as a ratio). Who better to lead
> the charge than Backlund, who epitomized the "old" pre-Vince Jr. WWF?
> So for that reason I can see Vince needing Bob.

Can you honestly say you have seen Bob Backlund leading anything in the WWF?
The WWF's "return to wrestling" (as a ratio) has been largely due to the
likes of Hart, Michaels, Flair and Savage (although the latter two haven't
been wrestling up to their abilities). Backlund is very much hanging
around in the shadows.

> 2) Why would Bob voluntarily come back to the WWF, especially after
> the way Vince screwed him out of the WWF title and tried to make him
> turn heel? From all reports, Bob was happy in retirement, wrestling the
> occassional match for a N.A. indie promotion or in Japan. I don't see
> any indication of Backlund *needing* to come back to the ring.
> Granted, I don't see Vince "chasing" Backlund, but I think the impetus
> was with Mr. McMahon.

One can only really speculate, but if Vince wanted Backlund back bad
enough to guarantee him a title (going back to the original message that
started this thread), then he surely would've AT LEAST given him a feud
so far. Backlund has had one article in the WWF rag, a syndie appearance
every 3-4 weeks or so, and some house show victories (that the vast majority
of the mark population is ignorant of).

> 3) Given the past bad blood between Backlund and Vince, if this was
> Bob's idea, don't you think Vince's response would be, "Sure, why not,
> but you're going to be jobbing for Jim Brunzell"? Given the
> semi-decent push Bob is getting (def. Papa Shango, Rick Martel,
> Kamala, and I-C champ Shawn Michaels by DQ) I have to think Vince
> wants it this way. I mean, this is the man who for the past 8 years
> has systematically destroyed Bob Backlund's history and legacy in the
> WWF, only to so quickly revive it now when he needs Bob to restore
> some credibility to the WWF.

Again, anyone that is aware of a semi-decent push of Backlund are people
that follow groups such as this one, and in the world of wrestling fans,
we're in the minority. Bad blood between Backlund and McMahon? Maybe
when the incident occured, but it's been almost a decade! Do you think
the bad blood has persisted this long?


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From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Matt Borne/Big Josh *is* Doink (WAS A new face on the net)
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:05:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: askinc.Bz3zpD.AIF
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.

In article <1g6s1eINN654@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, Rick Scaia writes:
> Greetings, fellow wrestling fans.  

Welcome...one question.  Your subject sez "new face".  I'm sure you
know we don't know what most of the others look like...  ;-)

That is, unless you meant you're a "face"-face (i.e., good guy).  
Whatever.

> 1)  Two separate posts have two different people pegged as the
>     WWF's clown (one was Big Josh, and the other I've already
>     forgotten).  Which, if either, is correct?

The only other name I've seen is Matt Borne (sp?), who *was* Big Josh.  
And that's exactly who Doink (the clown) is!  BTW, Matt's been in the 
sport for years and years.  His father is legend "Tough" Tony Borne.  

My favorite time of Matt's career was his team with Arn Anderson when
Arn first came to the NWA, back around '82/83.

============================>Robert McMullen<============================

    The opinions expressed in this message in no way reflect those of
   ASK Computer Systems, Inc.  Flames welcome, but highly uncalled for!

=========================>robert@askinc.ask.com<=========================
From: Andy@birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Japanese Wrestling is the best
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 01:19:55 EST
Reply-To: uunet!admiral!birdland!andy
Distribution: na
Organization: The State of CT.... NOT!
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <1992Dec16.154506.4399@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, Andrew S Hall writes:

> Not like this is new to anyone here, but I have been totally
> convinced of the superiority of Japanese wrestling.
> 
> After my finals, I went to a local Japanese market and rented
> a stack of videotapes. I discovered a one-hour TV show is
> better than a Wrestlemania or Halloween Havoc.
> 

No kidding. I've been watching Herb's tape for a while now. Quality isn't
there, but that's not his fault. Anyway, it's pretty brutal stuff. I've 
never seen women juice in this country before. But I do hope there's more
to Manami Toyoda than what I've seen. These guys are forever drooling
over her, and yeah, she's fine looking, but her partner Esther Moreno
was a lot better.

Are there any Japanese stores in NYC where I can get some videos? I was
there last week, but no luck.

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From: djm2@Ra.MsState.Edu (Daniel Jr Murrell)
Subject: Re: Lawler?
Organization: Mississippi State University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:12:11 GMT

Hey,
   You have a tape of the "empty arena match"?  Where could
I get it?  I saw that years ago the week it was on, and have
been wishing i had a vcr ever since..

I got one quick question:
  How wide an audience does the USWA show have?  I have it in
my mind that it's one of the most popular worldwide because
it's syndicated, and it's the only one that's broadcast live..
Thanks.. 
Dan
From: slucas@grant.ncd.com (Steve Lucas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: there's a name
Date: 11 Dec 92 14:38:27 GMT
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Mt. View, CA, USA

In article <ByqnuL.CKK@unix.amherst.edu>, acbonin@unix.amherst.edu (Adam Bonin) writes:
|> marv bloom (marv.bloom@rose.com) wrote:
|> : 
|> : Date Entered: 12-03-92 21:45
|> : 
|> : S :From: smurray@mta.ca
|> : 
|> : S :Double HUH???  Didnt Jesse cohold the tag straps with Adrian Adonis, back
|> : S :when he was the New York leather-clad street biker?  Did I dream this?
|> : 
|> :  Wasn't that "The East-West Connection" or something close and they 
|> : did have the Tagteam Belts for half a year??
|> :  
|> :    Marv
|> :  
|> : PS the "netmavens" will have to bail me out on this one.
|

Yes Jesse Ventura and Adrian Adonis were at one time the tag champs.  They were
the original East-West connection.


> 
|> The East-West connection were champions Dick Murdoch and Adrian Adonis, who I
|> believe held the belt at WM1 or thereabouts.  Best known for a skit where
|> AA introduced DM to New York, featuring the most disgusting looking hot dog
|> I've every seen.

To correct you a little, Adonis joined the WWiF as the Queen bee gag.  He tagged
with Murdock but not as his usual biker style self , but as the queen.  The only
East-West connection was Jesse & Adonis.  When he tagged with Murdock it was only
for a few matches and durring the younger days of the WWF.  They were never called
the East-West connection.  They in fact were called the coast to coast connection.
Later, teams from other federations used this for tag teams.
From: macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: keep phil
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:49:00 GMT
Organization: Eastern Michigan University

In article <1992Dec16.215407.12650@oz.plymouth.edu> d_jaracz@oz.plymouth.edu (David R. Jaracz) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.172753.21434@scott.skidmore.edu> cmoore@scott.skidmore.edu (colin moore) writes:
>>
>>At first, I voted to kick the s.o.b off, but then I started thinking
>>about it.  Despite what others might say, it would be censorship to
>>boot him off simply because no one likes what he says.  I say, let him
>>post whatever the hell he wants, and then IGNORE him.  Evryone
>>complains about the flame wars he starts, but it seemsto me that some
>>of you are more than willing to engage in one with him.  Let him post
>>his crap, nd just move on to the next article.  If no one responds to
>>it, he's going to get bored.  The question then becomes, do enough of
>>youhave the discipline to ignore him.
>
>

Does a charter exist anywhere for this group?  I'm sure Phil's posts
wouldn' come anywhere near being within the bounds of that charter.
-- 

Dominic Macika

"Imagine"
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: PWI
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:49:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

JWB>PWI isn't that great a waste of money.  Pro Wrestling Illustrated has
   >two can't-miss issues a year.. Their PWI 500 issue and the year-end
   >issue.

They are ok, but they are purely for entertainment and should be in no
way considered factual, or even accurate.  The "Top 500" issue is a
joke.  They have NO clue as to how to rate wrestlers.

JWB>The year end issue tells the direction the marks see the sport going.
   >And it's interesting to see which non WWF/WCW stars actually take home a
   >plaque (last year the Patriot was the only one).  Besides when the Brain

If their awards were legit, maybe they would mean something.  A friend
of mine worked for the company and I know that they decide the awards
themselves.

JWB>If PWI had no impact on the sport, then why did the WWF and even WCW
   >come out with their own mags (granted the WCW magazine has the exact
   >same staf as PWI)

Of course they have an impact.  90% of the fans are morons that read
that rag like it is the Wall Street Journal.  Keep in mind that the
National Enquirer sells a lot of copies too.

JWB>They should be given credit for basing their entire existance on
   >legitimizing the sport without resorting to sheet tactics, no small task.

Legitimizing the business?  That is a joke!  The stories that they write
are ALL worked.  They write crap about "Sting's secret anguish."  Give
me a break.  They are part of the reason that wrestling is seen as an
embarrassment.

JWB>In addition every month has thousands of match reports that would
   >otherwise would never be reported.

But what does that matter?  The same WCW and WWF matches occur in every
town.

JWB>That's why PWI is definitely worth a look once in a while.

It sure is.  It reminds me how few qualifications there are for someone
to vote or buy a handgun.
---
 . SLMR 2.0 . Hulk Hogan needs a hair weave!
From: au414@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Sean P. Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Hi, folks
Date: 12 Dec 1992 08:33:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Just wanted to pop in here for a second and let you all know that
I'm still alive.  My net.access has been very limited as of late,
due to a variety of reasons.  I may not be around very much through
the rest of the year, an possibly even past that.  The best bet to
reach me is through "conventional" means.  With that, here's how
you can reach me.  In particular, if you can, please send me sheets.
My address:

Sean P. Ryan
3215 Oregon Dr. #2
Anchorage, AK  99517-2048
(907)272-9184

Thanks in advance.  Catch you all around, sometime soon.

						-Sean-
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Where is the Iceman!
Date: 11 Dec 92 15:12:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

HK>  Aren't Iceman King Parsons and Pistol Pez (aka Shaska) Whatley all
  >  one and the same?  In this case, Parsons has worked as a jobber
  >  numerous times for both WCW and WWF in the recent past.

HK>                                                                Herb...

Herb!  I'm shocked!  How could you confuse the Iceman with Pez?  Iceman
is a long time Southern Mid West legend, working mostly Oklahoma and
Texas.  He was over huge in Watts UWF.  He was even with the Freebirds
for a while as the BlackBird.  His interviews were always great, ending
up when he called someone a "no good roody poot."  I always wondered
what that was.

Parsons still works indies in Texas.
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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: LOD split up?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:50:20 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

<HWTQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:

> Seen on newstand:
> One of the wrestling rags claims LOD has split up!
> 
> Someone please say (reliably and with authority) it ain't so!
> Please tell me that they've had the class to leave the WWF (Junior took
> away their name! Junior took away their music! Junior made them play with
 
It's so. Hawk is now wrestling with Kensuke Sasaki as the Hell Lasers (I 
think it might be Hell Raisers, with something lost in the translation, like 
Jushin L(R)iger. In fact, they're IWGP champions.
 
--Don

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From: jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: PWI
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:02:18 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <5342.137.uupcb@ssr.com>, dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer)  writes:
>   >Could someone send me the addresses of the mentioned sheets, or
>   >maybe reviews or critiques so I know what I'm getting into.
>   >No need to post the info, just e-mail it.
> 
> I am sure there are some folks here who would also like this info, so
> I'll post my 4 favorites.

Would one of (or both of) the FAQ "keepers" add this to their FAQ? This
is certainly a frequently asked question and should be included.

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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Subject: Savage vs. Taylor
Organization: American Math. Society
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:27:42 GMT


Saw the Macho Man vs. Terrible Terry Taylor match, and thought it was
an ok performance.  Was the Red Rooster a Terry Taylor incarnation, or
was that somebody else (I can't find my wrestling aliases file)?





-Alan Harder                
 Go Blue!                   

 My opinions are not the opinions of the American Mathematical Society.
 Did you think they were?

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