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From: pamela@keps.kodak.com (Pamela Blalock)
Subject: Never call bumps again
Organization: Kodak Electronic Printing Systems
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 15:18:49 GMT

Attention tandem stokers - Are you tired of stokers butt? Do your 
conversations with your captain consist mostly of calls for bumps
that come too late and constant apologies? At times ours did. And
then I read an article by Lon Haldeman suggesting that suspensions
on tandems were the wave of the future, so I decided to plunk down
$220 for an Allsop suspension seatpost. 

We had our first two rides with it this weekend and I love it! After
our last century, I had called the shop where I purchased the Burley
and asked them to get me an Allsop. After a few conversations with 
both Allsop and Burley and some extra parts being designed, Sheldon
was able to install the new seatpost. 

The first order of business was to get the seat height correct. 
Since the Allsop gives when you sit on it, the seat needs to be
higher than normal when not occupied, so it took a little trial and
error to get things right. Our first attempt was a little high 
and the seat hit me in the butt when we stood on hills, but a quick 
adjustment got us going again without this bizarre punishment!

According to Steve, my tandem captain, the bike handles a little
differently with the Allsop. It has a little more lateral movement
than expected and changes the dynamics slightly. We both adjusted
quickly and I suspect that after a few hundred miles he won't even
notice anymore. 

To really give this a complete workout we picked the bumpiest (and
coincidentally hilliest) route near Hampdem Maine to try it out on. 
This route has lots of frost heaves, and holes, and bumps and missing 
strips of pavement, and hills, and I only noticed the hills! 

Actually, I did notice the bumps, but in the strangest places, namely
my feet, and some in my hands, which makes sense because they are not
suspended. We rode 50 miles on Saturday and then did a metric century
on Sunday and I felt great. Now I'm REALLY looking forward to the LONG
rides this summer!




-- 
Pamela Blalock                                     pamela@keps.kodak.com
Kodak Electronic Printing Systems, Inc             3 down, 9 to go!
164 Lexington Road, Billerica, MA 01821-3984       
 
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: les@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Les Earnest)
Subject: Re: Multiple Free Laps
Organization: Computer Science Department,  Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:30:06 GMT

Jim Warsa writes:
>A new USCF rule was introduced this year allowing multiple free laps in 
>criteriums. It appears that it is being abused. Several times this year,
>I have seen guys stopping behind crashes, and even though they weren't
>really involved, getting free laps. At the Tempe Grand Prix, for instance,
>Hegg got back in after one of the early crashes (of the very many!). Later, 
>he stopped in FRONT of a crash with about 10 laps to go, and got a nice 
>2-lap rest before the finale. 

Yes, that is an abuse -- riders are not eligible for a free lap unless
they actually crash, flat or break an essential component, but
officials must necessarily give them the benefit of the doubt if they
didn't see the incident.  The rule change was made for consistency
between road and track and to conform with international practice.
My personal preference is to prohibit free laps in criteriums.

If the chief referee can establish that someone took an unauthorized
free lap, that person should be disqualified.  If a given rider does
this repeatedly, he or she should qualify for a vacation from racing
(i.e. suspension).

--
Les Earnest                                  Phone:  415 941-3984
Internet: Les@cs.Stanford.edu              USMail: 12769 Dianne Drive
UUCP: . . . decwrl!cs.Stanford.edu!Les         Los Altos Hills, CA 94022
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: u2417@sunc2.cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider)
Subject: how many calories do I burn?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:33:15 GMT

I am wondering how many calories I am burning while commuting. 
I have read the faq, which mentions 8-10 kcal/min.  However
I imagine that it is less for my slow pace, where I ride
4 miles in either, let's say, 20 minutes (12 m/hr) or in
15 minutes (16 m/hr).  I weigh 165, carry anoher 10 lbs in
my backpack, and my bike weighs 30 lbs.  Assuming the ground 
is flat, can anyone tell me (approximately) how many
calories I am burning??

-- 
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
!! Mike Schneider schneid@jerry.stat.uiuc.edu !!
!! University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign !!
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
From: vinson@shiva.seas.upenn.edu (Jack Vinson)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Hiding your bike to avoid airline charges
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:31:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: netnews.73207
Organization: The University of Pennsylvania

<1992Apr7.232300.20822@cs.columbia.edu> writes this in article bm@cs.columbia.edu (Blair MacIntyre)
>I actually discussed this over the phone with the Continental people.
>   .....
>
>The lady pointed out that since they charge extra for bikes, if the bike
>was lost or damaged, she doubted they would pay (she did say this as a
>personal thought, not as an employee.  I had asked her what she
>unofficially thought after she gave me the official line).

Unfortunately, they make you sign a waiver that says the airline is not
responsible for damage to your bike, even though you are paying an extra
$30 to 50 for the ride.  Grrr.  (By the way, it seems that the cost for
"special handling" packages is the same.  They charged me about that much
to drag my cat along to visit my family.)

Jack Vinson			The Purple Puddle Eater
vinson@shiva.seas.upenn.edu
vinson@unagi.cis.upenn.edu
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:8704 ca.driving:783 rec.motorcycles:12306
From: cramer@optilink.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,ca.driving,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Kill a Biker, Go to Jail.  NOT!!!
Date: 6 Apr 92 23:11:08 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1992Apr3.160517.964@rice.edu>, shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry) writes:
> >In the referenced article, shenry@cs.rice.edu (Sam Henry) writes:
# ##The Bill of Rights was drafted by a different
# ##body than that which drafted the Declaration of Independence or the 
# ##Constitution of the United States (these 2 bodies usually viewed as 
# ##the Founding Fathers).  ...
# In article <1992Apr2.212335.13576@erg.sri.com# rat@erg.sri.com (Ray
# Trent) writes: 
# #Sigh again. If you're going to argue that James Madison was not a
# #"founding father" when he was writing the majority of the Bill of
# #Rights 
# 
# He wrote a lot, but was not a memeber of the convention that finally
# proposed the Bill of Rights, changing much of what Madison wrote.

Utterly wrong.  See Charlene Bangs Bickford & Helen E. Veit, ed.,
_Documentary History of the First Federal Congress 1789-91_,
(Baltimore, Johns Hopkins University Press: 1986), 4:9.  Or any
history of the Bill of Rights.  Madison wrote it, and it was amended
by Congress through committee (which explains the anti-semantic
wording of the Second Amendment).

# #but was one when he was working with the comittee that
# #(spearheaded by Jefferson) drafted the Constitution then I'm afraid 
#                  ^^^^^^^^^
# #I'm at a loss.
# 
# fable, not history.  Jefferson was ambassador to Paris at the time the
# Constitution was written by a Convention.  Jefferson did not
# participate in the writing.

Very true.  He and Madison engaged in lengthy correspondence about
it for a year before Madison introduced it.

# #If you want to argue that the people that ratified the Constitution
# #(and the Bill of Rights for the most part) 
# 
# because of the lapse of time between the ratification of the
# Constitution and the drafting and ratification of the Bill of Rights,
# almost none of the players were the same.

Almost all the players were the same.  Only two years elapsed between
the Philadelphia Convention, and the Congress that sent the Bill of
Rights to the states.

# sam henry <shenry@rice.edu#


-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
"The mass of mankind has not been born with saddles on their backs, nor a
favored few booted and spurred, ready to ride them legitimately, by the grace
of God." -- Thomas Jefferson
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: pamela@keps.kodak.com (Pamela Blalock)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Tandem Bicycle (or info)
Organization: Kodak Electronic Printing Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 14:25:16 GMT

In article <73896@netnews.upenn.edu> vinson@shiva.seas.upenn.edu (Jack Vinson) writes:
>Sean Samblanet asks about availability of tandems.
>
>I am interested too.  I would like to try one out for a weekend tour or
>even a day-long ride to see how my SO and I would get along with one.  I
>know bike shops don't usually allow long test rides (do they rent them?).

Well, I don't know about other shops, but the two shops I have bought 
tandems from arrange for REAL test rides. 

The shop in Waltham, where I bought my Burley, will *rent* a bike out
for a week or weekend for a test ride. (Frank's Spoke and Wheel for
those that are interested.

The shop in NC, where I bought my Claud Butler, would set up an
appointment with both riders. The owner would take each rider out as
stoker. The potential stoker got a very nice pleasant ride with all
bumps called and no scary things happening. The potential captain, on
the other hand, would be *abused* a little, so that he/she would know
to call bumps and treat the stoker better. Then they could ride
together.

Call around first to find a shop with tandems. Ask for the tandem
expert.  Hopefully they will have one. If they don't check with your
local club. Tandem owners are sometimes very particular about their
bikes and would lend you their spouse first ... but they might TAKE
you on a test ride. 

If no one in your area has a clue, then plan a trip to Birmingham,
Alabama to visit one of the best tandem shops around, Tandems Limited.
Their number is 205-991-5519. BTW, they also stock hard to find tandem
parts like cassette hubs (for around $450)




-- 
Pamela Blalock                                     pamela@keps.kodak.com
Kodak Electronic Printing Systems, Inc             4 down, 8 to go!
164 Lexington Road, Billerica, MA 01821-3984       Darn, we got in!
From: ifai645@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Paul C. Janzen)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Shimano STI - lowest gear?
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:18:55 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Apr6.143459.2386@cbnews.cb.att.com> ampe@cbnews.cb.att.com (john.e.ampe) writes:
>Specs on the standard Dura-Ace STI 8-speed derailleur are: rear cogs:
>max 26T, min 12T, max difference in chainwheel teeth: 14, max total
>difference (front plus rear): 26.  This would allow you to run a 13-26
>rear and 39-52 front.

But you can probably get away with more if you're willing not to use
the 39x13 and 39x14 (or the 52x28, for that matter.) You'll have 
the chain loose on the 39x13-14, and it won't shift into the 52x28, but
you'll be able to get to both a 52x13 and a 39x28. 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul C. Janzen                Winter is the season in which people try
ifai645@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu    to keep the house as warm as it was in the
                              summer, when they complained about the
                              heat.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: stephenm@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (M. B. Stephens)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Commuting on a Bicycle
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:30:42 GMT

In <1992Apr10.090741.4340@ericsson.se> etxorst@eos.ericsson.se (Torsten Lif) writes:

>In article AA02003@hplomg.hpl.hp.com, BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM () writes:
>>Gary Robishaw writes:
>>
>>> I too perspire profusly during my commute, irregardless of the weather.
>>
>A deodorant merely "paints over" the smell by hiding it with an even
>stronger one. An antiperspirant is more efficient but the health issue
>of smearing yourself with aluminium hydroxide is not fully resolved.

A new kind of deoderant (oops this sounds suspiciously like their ad copy)
has appeard on the UK market. It does not block the pores but (from reading
the ingredients) it uses a combination of Zinc Oxide to kill the smelly bugs
and a polymer to absorb the perspiration until it evaporates naturally (my
speculation). So if clogging your pores everday for the whole of your life
sounds unhealthy to you, or your worried about zinc nodules forming in your
skin (sorry I don't have a reference for this problem with Zinc hydroxide
based products) then look out for this product.

Mark.

stephenm@p4.cs.man.ac.uk
From: ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Kestrel advice wanted
Keywords: Kestrel, advice, wanted
Date: 17 Apr 92 20:13:58 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Apr17.141016.11551@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:
>I think people are
>missing one of the most important reasons for having a light frame and
>components, its simply more fun to ride!  It doesn't matter to a lot of
>people whether a light bike will make them a millisecond faster, they
>just enjoy the bike more because its light.

It's "simply more fun to ride" *if* your value system says that having the
latest thing (and right now light weight is *in*) is fun.  IMHO, most of
the people tooling around on megabuck bikes not only wouldn't notice if
you filled their seatposts with lead sinkers, but wouldn't notice if you
could somehow substitute a galvenized pipe frame for theirs without their 
seeing the difference.  They'd still have as much fun.  "Fun" is certainly
the key, but that fun is also a product of perceived rather than real
differences.

Don't get me wrong.  I want a Merlin (with a few modifications like rack
bosses so I can do unsupported DCs on it) in the worst way.  I tell myself
that it's because the frame would last forever, and I wouldn't have to
worry about salted roads again.  The light weight and magical ride are
included for free.  But I know that my real reason for wanting that bike
is that I think (have been taught to think?) it's sexy as hell, and that
having what I currently think is sexy would be fun.  It would add tons o'
enjoyment to every ride just thinking about those Ti tubes flexing away
down there (this could get obscene real quick...) 

I think I forgot what I wanted to say.  Oh yes.  Let's have our fun
without resorting to universal principles.
-- 
****************************************************************************
Eric House			"My employer doesn't share its opinions with
			   	 me, so I can share only mine with you"
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.autos.driving,rec.motorcycles
From: jdrout@scott.skidmore.edu (jonathan drout)
Subject: Re: A new clipless pedal i saw at the local bikeshop
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:18:40 GMT


These pedal clips could make all the acceleration difference on those
pesky Probes I always have to beat off the line.  Maybe with them the
drivers could keep up...
	Jonathan (MR2s rule) Drout

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: manning@cco.caltech.edu (Evan Marshall Manning)
Subject: Re: Commuting on a Bicycle
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 20:16:43 GMT

tr@samadams.princeton.edu (Tom Reingold) writes:

>When is Bike To Work week?  It's some time in May, right?  I can't
>cycle to work, at least not practically.  It's at least 29 miles each
>way, over some very badly designed commercial suburban highways with
>shoulders and no alternate routes.  So since I can't do this regularly,

One article I saw somewhere about bicycle commuting recommended that
if the commute is too long, then you should drive part way, park,
pull out the bike, and ride the rest of the way.  And if the ride is
too short, you shopuld not take the most direct route.


>        Tom Reingold
>        tr@samadams.princeton.edu  OR  ...!princeton!samadams!tr
>        "Warning: Do not drive with Auto-Shade in place.  Remove
>        from windshield before starting ignition."

What makes that especially funny is that 1) this rule is in RED,
unlike the other rules, and 2) This rule was not included on older
autoshades....


<<<<<<<<<< Evan M. Manning ======= manning@alumni.caltech.edu >>>>>>>>>>>>
Your eyes are weary from staring at the CRT.  You feel sleepy.  Notice how
restful it is to watch the cursor blink.  Close your eyes.  The opinions
stated above are yours.  You cannot imagine why you ever felt otherwise.
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:9098 rec.motorcycles:12766
From: elr@uunet.uu.net!trintex (Unix Guru-in-Training)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BICYCLE CRASH
Date: 9 Apr 92 21:42:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: uunet.1992Apr9.214232.10660
Organization: Four Wheels Bad, Two Wheels Good

In article <1992Apr8.175759.3654@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:

>>   on on the sidewalk will seldom be noticed.  In addition,
>>   riding (or driving) too close to parked cars will eventually
>>   result in a collision with an opening door.
>
>Preferable to having a car swerve in front of you to get into traffic.

Maybe preferable to having a car swerve in front of YOU, but I will
take my chances bicycling in the middle of the lane any day of the
week.  Car doors are stationary -- at least the car cutting me off is
still moving and I have some time to react.  Also, the obnoxious driver
cutting me off when I'm in the middle of the lane usually sees me first,
and has taken some rudimentary precautions not to scratch the paint on
his/her cage.  A bozo who throws their car door open in my path is not
paying any attention to the road at all.

Be careful saying what's "preferable" unless you've had a chance to try
both options...
-- 
Ed Ravin- elr@trintex.uucp| I like to think (and the sooner the better!)
       philabs!trintex!elr| Of a cybernetic meadow where mammals and computers
           +1-914-993-4737| Live together in mutually programming harmony
my opinions, nobody else's| Like pure water touching clear sky.  -R. Brautigan
From: waveland@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Holeman)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: can someone please explain my 18 gears?
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:43:07 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Apr7.183737...> u2417@sunc2.cs.uiuc.edu (Mike Schneider) writes:

>I recently bought a Schwinn Mirada 18 speed mountain bike.
>However, I don't understand the gears.  Could someone
>please give a quick explanation (or point me to a FAQ)
>regarding these?  I can't understand low and high...
>But I can see which gears are large and small!

On a very basic level, that's all you need to know.  Your high
gear is the combination of the biggest chainwheel (the one(s) you spin
with your feet) and the smallest rear cog.  Your lowest gear is the
opposite combination--biggest cog, smallest chainwheel.  What's
important, as with any gearing setup, is the ratio between the
gears.  With a big chainwheel (say, 52 teeth) turning a small 
cog (13 teeth), the ratio is 52/13, or, effectively, 4:1--i.e.,
one spin of the pedals gives you four spins of the wheel. 
With this gear, you'll have to pedal very hard, but you'll go 
very fast.  

Now consider the other extreme on a mountain bike:  a 30-tooth
chainwheel and a 30 tooth-cog.  The ratio here is 30/30, or 1:1--
one turn of the wheel for one turn of the pedals.  At this gear,
you won't go very fast, but it will feel very easy.

>What I really want to know is, what is my (lowest?)
>hardest to pedal gear?

That's your "high" gear, really, the one with the high gear ratio.
Use it for pedalling downhill, or with the wind to your back.
Low gear is for a heavy load on the bike, or for climbing a steep
hill.  The in-between ones, as you might guess, are for
in-between situations.

>The manufacturer suggests
>not using the most extreme gears (smallest in front
>and biggest in back or vice versa).  I believe
>this since when I accidentally did it, my chain fell off.
>Help!
 
The problem here was that the chain was all the way to the right
on the front and all the way to the left on the back--or the other
way around.  Don't use these, because they make your chain go sideways,
and chains don't like that.  The gearing is set up so that your
highest and lowest gears will not ask the chain to deflect so much.
With the chain all the way to the left, you're in low gear.
Avoiding the right-left crossovers doesn't really hurt you, since 
that ratio is probably duplicated on other chainwheel/cog combinations.
    
The FAQ's just went out, which probably go into gearing in greater
detail, but that's the basics.
-- 
Eric Holeman                  waveland@milton.u.washington.edu
"If major league owners and executives are distressed by the acrimony 
 they've witnessed in Seattle, there is a quick and sure way they can
 end it."--John Owen, Seattle Post-Intelligencer
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: dmlieber@jarthur.claremont.edu (Stu)
Subject: Re: Stupid Huffy Ad
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:56:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.171356.14150@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> ooo@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (paul.d.schmitter) writes:
>Anybody else see the new Huffy TV commercial?  The riders are wearing
>the now requisite helmets, but their seats are so low that I'm surprised
>they don't get black eyes from their knees hitting their heads.  When
>will the marketing types learn; or do they already know and they're just
>trying to accurately represent the Huffy-buying public?

There's also those Huffy commercials where they show riders on their 
so-called mountain bikes, riding like they're on bikes of much higher
quality.  One of my friends actually admitted to buying a Huffy ATB
because the commercials depicted it as an off-roader.  While he was
trying to keep up with me on a Trek 830 and another friend on a 
Bridgstone MB-2, he hit a bump which I did not even notice, and folded
the front wheel.  Guess the bike couldn't handle the *rough* terain.

Stu
From: kcdutt@pheonix.princeton.edu (Kevin Dutt)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Tour of Flanders
Date: 6 Apr 92 01:33:17 GMT
Organization: Princeton University





If I'm not mistaken, today was the Tour of Flanders.

Anyone have the results?


Dutt
From: dchoi@physics (David Choi)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Low Profile brakes=low performance braking?
Date: 16 Apr 1992 12:14:31 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

I just put some low-pro Deore XT canti's on my bike and they are excellent.
I don't have servo-wave levers (the old full-length Deore levers, which I
like because I can reach them with my hands on my bar-ends) but they are
still very strong and have great stopping power.

Well, I'm not sure what this all really means because my old brakes were
pretty lame, they came with the bike which was originally equipped with
Shitty 200 GS (Shimano) components.