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Subject: RE: good sources for Monteverdi
From: phoogenboom@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 9 Apr 92 13:52:26 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <01GIN0K7NVKGC3RED6@icil64.cilea.it>, OBOE@IBGUNIV.BITNET (Giuseppe Cattaneo) writes:
> I think it's better all you spell correctly MALIPIERO ...

My sincere apologies!
I shall never knowingly misspell Malipiero again.

Peter Hoogenboom
phoogenb@ucs.indiana.edu
From: rcbaem@rw9.urc.tue.nl (pooh)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Request for Crwth references
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:17:34 GMT
Reply-To: rcbaem@urc.tue.nl

The following is a posting by my girlfriend, she hasn't got an account by
herself, and therefore I post the article for her:

Direct mail preferred, to:
  rcbaem@urc.tue.nl,
  pooh@es.ele.tue.nl.

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I study musicology at the university of Utrecht, the Netherlands, and
at the moment I am writing an article on the Welsh crwth (sometimes
called crowd, crot or chorus). I am wondering if anyone here has any
information for me on this subject, and suggestions for recent
literature. I so far have two articles by Cecile Dolmetsch, and a book
by Anderson, 'the bowed harp'. The New Grove dictionary of musical
instruments only provides a small biography. It mentions a book by C.
Bullock-Davies, 'Welsh minstrels at the courts of Edward I and Edward
II', but says it is still in preparation. I haven't been able to find
it. I do not have acces to this news-group myself, only via my
boyfriend.

Catheleijne Berck

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  pooh
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From: cybr520@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (Michael Chmura)
Subject: Harpsichords (electronic)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:17:00 GMT
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: To:  Wash DC area performers
From: Cindi Roden <RODEN@GUVM.BITNET>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:53:04 EDT

I would limit this posting to people in the Washington DC/Baltimore
area if I knew how, but I don't, so I apologize in advance to others.
*****
I had a call from the Folger Shakespeare Library.  On April 25th, they
are doing their annual open house to celebrate Shakespeare's birthday,
and are looking for early music groups to fill the slots in their
schedule.  They are interested in any Elizabethan-period type performers,
including but not limited to instrumental groups, instrumental groups
with singers, and madrigal groups; they've been known in the past to
have jugglers and the like also.  Unfortunately, there's no money, but
there are always mobs of people, so there's lots of exposure.  Accoustics
in the Shakespeare Theater are good, and it's a really fun gig.
Yes, I know it's awfully short notice - that's why my own group can't
do it.  Anybody who's interested, please call Suzanne Oldham at the
Folger - 202/544-7077.  Please tell her I sent you, so we can impress
her with how well modern technology can be applied to early music.  Thanks!
From: eia018@comp.lancs.ac.uk (Mr.A.Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Re: Slight clarification on chant question
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:53:31 GMT
Organization: Department of Linguistics at Lancaster University, UK.

In article <77185D449DDF00864D@GONZAGA.BITNET> QUINN@GONZAGA.BITNET writes:
> 
>Just for the record, the message I posted was a response to the above-quoted
>question, which included a somewhat lengthy description of different types of
>organa, and stating that the terms "chant" and "polyphony" were mutually
>exclusive, since "polyphonic chant" is by definition organum.  Out of
>curiosity, did you read the whole post, or just the question above?
> 

I was replying to the question originally posed rather than to your post 
directly.  I read this group less frequently than certain other groups and 
consequently some "orginal" postings have been automatically removed from the 
incoming message spool by then.  I thought the original poster might be
interested in the relevant recording I mentioned.

Andrew Wilson
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
From: simona@panix.com (Simona Nass)
Subject: Renaissance Street Singers seeks singers for motets
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 00:10:48 GMT
Distribution: nyc
Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY

The Renaissance Street Singers is looking for singers. The repertoire is
mostly 15th and 16th C. motets. We are looking for people with voices that
don't have much vibrato and who can sight-sing relatively well. Our numbers
are fairly small these days, so there is a need for all parts.

Rehearsals are Thursday evenings 7-9:30 pm on W. 17th St. in Manhattan. We
perform for free on the streets of NY (or in atriums when cold), roughly on
alternating Sunday afternoons at 2:00.

If you have any questions about the repertoire or any other aspect, feel free
to e-mail me (simona@panix.com) or call our director John at 212-989-7606. -S.
-- 
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From: efosbroo@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk (Elisabeth Fosbrooke)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Re: good sources for Monteverdi
Date: 14 Apr 92 11:49:57 GMT
Reply-To: efosbroo@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk
Organization: British Telecom Labs

From article <1992Apr7.192939.772@athena.mit.edu>, ridgway@mit.edu (Lee Ridgway) writes:
>> In article <1992Apr6.135456.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
>> 
>> Some of the smaller English publishers are coming out with performing editions
>> of Monteverdi. I think the London Pro Musica (name?) series has some. Go to a
>> library that carries journals such as Early Music, The Galpin Society Journal,
>> and related publications, and scan their advertisements from publishers. 

Highly recommended:
		King's Music.  

Run by Clifford and Elaine Bartlett; other editors are people like Peter
Holman (Parley of Instruments, Opera Restor'd). Revisions include feedback
from performances (e.g. by Philip Thorby's Musica Antiqua of London and
Capella Antiqua; Little Benslow Trust; Eastern Early Music Forum).

The address is:

	Redcroft
	Banks End
	Wyton
	Huntingdon
	Cambs 
	PE17 2AA
	England

Brief list of Monteverdi that King's Music publishes:

17th Century vocal solos and duets (Monteverdi, Grandi, Locke, Blow etc.)

Operas and Oratorios:
	Il Combattimento...
	Orfeo
	L'incoronazione di Poppea
	Vespers 1610
	Various Psalms and Motets

Elisabeth
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Subject: RE: GREGORIAN CHANTS FAQ?
From: XCJMBZA@IUP.BITNET
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:36:00 EDT
X-Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania

...I recommend two cds.  The first is a three volume kit entitled A
TREASURY OR GREGORIAN CHANT.  The second, any cd done by ARCHIV PRODUKTION.
Take care.
 
                                -=*>> Jim SeKoch <<*=-
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: testing distribution via EARLYM-L@AEARN.bitnet
From: Gerhard Gonter <GONTER@AWIWUW11.BITNET>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:48:50 WUT

this mail is intended to test the distribution path of earlym-l.
 
please ignore...
 
thank you and best wishes, Gerhard Gonter
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: RE: New Pipe Organ
From: XCJMBZA@IUP.BITNET
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 21:45:00 EST
X-Organization: Indiana University of Pennsylvania

...sorry to confuse most of you....but this letter has nothing to do
with pipe organs.  I have to get used to working with this new mail system.
Now, the letter:
        Are there any other counter-tenor students on this list?  I myself
am a Freshman at IUP and I have to transfer to West Chester in the Fall to
get the training I need as an alto.  I am also trying to get a degree in
both Rebec and Crumhorn performance.
        Any response will be appreciated.  Oh, one last thing, does anyone
know anything about George Edward Stubbs?  He's an Englishman who came to
the states to revive the use of male altos in the church.  He wrote an entire
book dedicated to the topic entitled THE MALE ALTO OR COUNTER-TENOR VOICE.
        I
 
 
 
 
 
 
I have sent for it through an inter-library loan and should have it within two
weeks.  If anyone can tell me more about any books on the topics of falsettists
or counter-tenors, please do.  Take care.
 
                                        -=*>> Jim SeKoch <<*=-
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Subject: <None>
From: "John.Resotko" <ADP89@MSU.BITNET>
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 13:28:00 EDT

nomail
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Subject: Re: good sources for Monteverdi
From: phoogenboom@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:54:55 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

In article <gdrBziz0_ek1QZYU48@andrew.cmu.edu>, Chris Paris <cp1i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> I know that when people in the early music community perform music, an
> important consideration is often the reliability of the performing edition.
> I'm wondering what editions are considered good for Monteverdi. I know of the
> Malipiero (sp?) edition, but this seems quite colored by 19th century-style
> editorial conventions, and it's not obvious to me what is original. For
> example, the realizations of the bass, which appear in small notes anyway, are
> obviously an addition.
> 
> I'm looking for comments on the Malipiero edition and what other sources
> people know of.
> 
> --
> Chris Paris
> cp1i+@andrew.cmu.edu (NeXT mail)


I recently conducted a concert of sacred latin choral music of Monteverdi.  We
used the Malpiero edition.  it is remarkably true to the originals; with the
exception of the supplement, vol. 17, the note-values are the original ones. 
There are a few engraving errors and the barring is sometimes very problematic
and odd.  There is a newer complete works edition, which does transpose note
values but also includes facsimilies of original parts, publuished by the
Claudio Monteverdi Foundation in Italy.  I am not sure whether this series is
finished.  I did not use it because Indiana University's music library does not
have the volumes of sacred music.
	The Malpiero edition tries to mark editorial editions and changes, and
is generally good about it, but there are frequent omissions or errors in this
regard.  Whatever you do I would recommend trying to obtain access to a copy of
the original editions.  I also have a question:  What music are you interested
in obtaining editions for?  Opera?  Madrigals?  Sacred Music?
	Feel free to email -- I do not check the usenet that consistently.

Peter Hoogenboom
phoogenb@ucs.indiana.edu		phoogenboom@eagle.wesleyan.edu
        @iubacs.bitnet  			   @wesleyan.bitnet
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From: simona@panix.com (Simona Nass)
Subject: NY Madrigal Singers Concert 5/31- Music from the Age of Discovery
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 00:05:00 GMT
Distribution: nyc
Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY
Keywords: concert
Followup-To: rec.music.early

The New York Madrigal Singers (NYMS), under the direction of Erik-Peter
Mortensen, will perform "Music From the Age of Discover," a program of a
capella vocal ensemble music. The performance will take place Sunday, May 31,
1992, at Notre Dame Church, 405 W. 114th St. (entrance on Morningside Drive)
at 3:00 p.m. Admission by contribution (pay what you wish).

"Music From the Age of Discovery" reveals the Old World and its influence on
the New. It features masters from 16th century Spain, Portugal and the
Americas, including Guerrero, Esquivel, Morales and Torres.

The New York Madrigal Singers have as their goal making the chamber consort
and a capella traditions available to existing audiences and accessible to
new ones. NYMS aims especially at carrying this tradition across cultures by
bringing to life the emotional richness and immediacy of this music. Recent
concerts have included performances at the Bruno Walter Auditorium in the New
York Public Library for the Performing Arts (located at Lincoln Center), the
Philippine and Indian consulates, fund-raisers for the Edvard Grieg Society
and the Foundation for Disabled Children of Israel, and the inauguration this
Spring of the new Norwegian Seamen's Church.

For further information, contact:

by e-mail: Simona Nass - simona@panix.com
by phone:  Michael S. Orzechowski - 212-472-1662
-- 
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From: knotts@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Tom Knotts)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 20:22:25 GMT
Subject: Re: New Pipe Organ
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.music.early


>Hi all you organ lovers!

>Below is the specification of the new Pipe Organ that is currently
>under construction for St. George's Cathedral, Perth, Western
>Australia. It is being built by Kurd Smendge (spelling?), a Danish

...

>I hope there are more people than just me who
>are intersted by the above specification.

What kind of stop and keyboard action does it have?

Tom
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Request for Crwth references
From: Gerhard Gonter <GONTER@AWIWUW11.BITNET>
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 18:57:43 WUT

------------------------- Original Message -------------------------
To: EARLYM-L@AEARN
Subject: Request for Crwth references
From: rcbaem@rw9.urc.tue.nl (pooh)
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:17:34 GMT
 
The following is a posting by my girlfriend, she hasn't got an account by
herself, and therefore I post the article for her:
 
Direct mail preferred, to:
  rcbaem@urc.tue.nl,
  pooh@es.ele.tue.nl.
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
I study musicology at the university of Utrecht, the Netherlands, and
at the moment I am writing an article on the Welsh crwth (sometimes
called crowd, crot or chorus). I am wondering if anyone here has any
information for me on this subject, and suggestions for recent
literature. I so far have two articles by Cecile Dolmetsch, and a book
by Anderson, 'the bowed harp'. The New Grove dictionary of musical
instruments only provides a small biography. It mentions a book by C.
Bullock-Davies, 'Welsh minstrels at the courts of Edward I and Edward
II', but says it is still in preparation. I haven't been able to find
it. I do not have acces to this news-group myself, only via my
boyfriend.
 
Catheleijne Berck
 
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
  pooh
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Subject: baroque bow and violin
From: DCBANKS@WHEATNMA.BITNET
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 21:59:00 EDT

I have a friend who is very interested in the baroque bow and/or violin and
their performances practices. Could anybody help me out as to where she might
go for some information or references? She was not entirely specific on the
type of info. she was looking for, an exasperated "Anyuthing!" was about all
she could get out!
Thanks,
Deb Banks
DCBANKS@WHEATNMA
From: robin@CALYPSO.BIH.HARVARD.EDU (Robin Colgrove)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: seeking recorder music
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:00:28 GMT

hi folks
anybody got any favorite Recorder Trio discs they want to recommend.
actually any good recorder recordings would be good but most want
small, pure recorder ensemble. email to me and I will summarize. thanx
robin
From: ridgway@mit.edu (Lee Ridgway)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: Re: good sources for Monteverdi
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:29:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: athena.1992Apr7.192939.772
Organization: MIT

In article <1992Apr6.135456.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
phoogenboom@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>I recently conducted a concert of sacred latin choral music of Monteverdi.  We
>used the Malpiero edition.  it is remarkably true to the originals; with the
>exception of the supplement, vol. 17, the note-values are the original ones. 
>There are a few engraving errors and the barring is sometimes very problematic
>and odd.  There is a newer complete works edition, which does transpose note
>values but also includes facsimilies of original parts, publuished by the
>Claudio Monteverdi Foundation in Italy.  I am not sure whether this series is
>finished.  I did not use it because Indiana University's music library does
not
>have the volumes of sacred music.
>        The Malpiero edition tries to mark editorial editions and changes, and
>is generally good about it, but there are frequent omissions or errors in this
>regard.  Whatever you do I would recommend trying to obtain access to a copy
of
>the original editions.  I also have a question:  What music are you interested
>in obtaining editions for?  Opera?  Madrigals?  Sacred Music?

Denis Stevens has edited some of the madrigals and other choral pieces, with
good commentary, editorial decisions, and suggestions for performance. One of
the problems with the Malpiero edition is that (at least in the copies I've
seen) he doesn't tackle some of the performance issues, such as which
instruments, performing pitches, and some of his suggested chromatic changes
are open to debate. 

Some of the smaller English publishers are coming out with performing editions
of Monteverdi. I think the London Pro Musica (name?) series has some. Go to a
library that carries journals such as Early Music, The Galpin Society Journal,
and related publications, and scan their advertisements from publishers. 
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
From: Lee Ridgway <ridgway@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: RE: Bowed psaltry
Organization: MIT
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:06:56 GMT

In article <EARLYM-L%92040321193552@AEARN.BITNET> MAINT2@ERS.BITNET (Ken
Koester) writes:
>On Fri, 27 Mar 1992 15:54:35 EST Linda Littleton said:
>>I'm looking for information on the bowed psaltry.  In particular, what is
>>its history?  Is it an old instrument or is it a modern adaptation?  What
>>country is it from?
>>
>>I'm a violinist who happened upon the bowed psaltry about 2 years ago and
>>have been performing on it now and then in a folk/Renaissance group.  Each
>>time we perform, I'm embarrassed to be so unable to answer people's
>>questions about it.
>>
>>-Linda
> 
>I've seen attributions of this of anywhen from the 15th century to 1948.
>I'm reluctantly fairly sure that the latter is more accurate, but I don't have
>anything definitive for you.  I think the *sound* is right at home with the
>music you are talking about, however, and I don't give a hang about the
>"historicity," supposed or otherwise.  Question:  have you any tips for
>simulating a more legato sound; have you picked up a second bow and tried
>double bowing?  I was lefthanding a drone against some Christmas melodies
>a few months ago & would like to develop double bowing as a regular technique
>. . . assuming I can ever find time for it.
>

The bowed psaltery was invented in Germany, in the 1930s, for use in schools.
Sort of the string instrument member of an Orff instrument ensemble. Like Orff
instruments, it fits folk music built on the pentatonic scale quite easily, it
is apparently easy to play by chilren (at least on the open strings), and is
sturdy.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 9 Apr 1992 09:42:13 CDT
From: Tom Ascher <U15310@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: MOECK RECORDER FOR SALE

I have a tenor Moeck model 249, maple, no keys, lists at $525.  Perfect
condition, in original case, purchased in 1982, only played a few hours.
Will sell for $300.  If interested, please email, or you can call me
at work: (312)413-3665; home: (312)427-5108 (evenings).
Tom Ascher - University of Illinois at Chicago
Phone: 1-312-413-3665
email: (U15310@UICVM.uic.edu) or  (UICVM.uic.edu!U15310)
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Subject: how do I get concert info for Berlin? (resent)
From: Gerhard Gonter <GONTER@AWIWUW11.BITNET>
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 09:55:29 WUT

------------------- Original Message (12 lines) ---------------
To: EARLYM-L@AEARN
Subject: how do I get concert info for Berlin?
From: Michael Steckner <steckner@lri.uwo.ca>
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:45:23 GMT
Organization: Relayed-by-Sendmail
 
I probably will be in Berlin in August and was wondering what should
be done to get information/tickets etc. I assume that one has to get
tickets well in advance for Berlin Philharmonic!
Any help would be appreciated!
Xref: sparky rec.music.early:719 dc.general:715
From: bchivers@smiley.mitre.org (Brent Chivers)
Newsgroups: rec.music.early,dc.general
Subject: Harmonia -- Washington, DC's Early-Music Newsletter
Date: 10 Apr 92 03:41:45 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.early
Organization: The MaiTai Corp, McLean, VA



A few weeks ago I mentioned that I was in contact with the editor
of our new local newsletter.  We finally got together last night to
exchange a disk, and I have reduced it to plain ASCII for the net.
What I have now is a calendar of events through the rest of April,
with some info for May, and some articles about Early Music, detail
about coming concerts, and reviews of recent events.  It's about
300 lines of calendar and 400 lines of articles.

For starters I'll just post the calendar for the rest of April,
and (to rec.music.early only) some of the articles.  It's still a
little rough (could use more editing here), but it's not going to
get any better in the next few days and I'd rather get the info out.

This can easily evolve into infrequent (monthly), but large postings.
I need to know from you, the readers, how to proceed.  Should I (try
to 8-) restrict the distribution to the DC area, the US, or the world?
Do people in Canada, or England, or New Zealand care to hear what's
happening here, or is a waste of net resources?  Should I use different
distributions for different parts of Harmonia?  (E.g. restrict reviews
of local groups to local distribution.)

Should there be a Harmonia mailing list?  Let me know what to do, or
I'll just do as I please.  (And I haven't decided what that is yet. ;-)


	We welcome reader response and hope you will help us shape
	this publication to fit your needs and interests.  Anyone
	with a special interest, commentary, or expertise please
	contact the editor: Patricia Cutts-O'Brien, 736 13th Street,
	SE, Washington, DC 20003 (202/543-1941 or 202/546-1320).

	This newsletter is published monthly September - June.
	The deadline for material for the following month is the
	15th of the current month.  There is no subscription fee.
	Though we will make every attempt to maintain accuracy,
	we cannot be responsible for errors beyond correcting
	them in the following issue if timely and/or necessary.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.early
From: Lee Ridgway <ridgway@mit.edu>
Subject: Re: RE: New Pipe Organ
Organization: MIT
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:17:15 GMT

In article <EARLYM-L%92040706524772@AEARN.BITNET> GAG@BROWNVM.BITNET (Geoffrey
A Greene) writes:
The only thing that I could
>see an organ this size needing is Salicional and Voix Celeste at 4' and maybe
>a Cymbelstern.

No organ (except a real tub) needs 4' strings, especially a Voix Celeste! Talk
about never being in tune with itself or any of the rest of the organ. (What
pitch do you want me to match?)

Now a Cymbelstern I like, and while we're at it, why not a Rossignol and
Campanella (sp? - a set of small tuned bells, usually from c1 up, found on many
Italian organs of the 18th-19th Centuries - a delightful sound in Christmas
pastorales).
Newsgroups: rec.music.early
Subject: RE: good sources for Monteverdi
From: Giuseppe Cattaneo <OBOE@IBGUNIV.BITNET>
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 09:38:56 ITA
In-reply-to: Message of Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:29:39 GMT from <ridgway@MIT.EDU>

I think it's better all you spell correctly MALIPIERO ...