HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jh@heel.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Jack Hsu)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Dogfight Tourney spectators
Date: 8 Nov 1992 00:28:54 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: heel.cs.berkeley.edu

The dogfight tourney will begin on Monday, 7pm PDT. East will play on
arcadia.cs.berkeley.edu and West will play on bigdog.cs.berkeley.edu.
Spectators can join in at port 2592. There will be 8 spectators allowed
in a game.

The tourney should end before 8:30pm.

Here is the list of the contestants:

West
----
Hell Peacock		blojo@graft
Sandia			von@cory
Passing Wind		jmn@crown
pteroducktyl		hadley@ics.uci.edu
R. Daneel		jiangwu@postgres
Gaia			jh@postgres
PRS Axe			mccleod@iastate.edu
KreelScum		horde@reed.edu
Scum			sfd@soda
LURI			jjudy@bsac
Blue Velvet		mikel%blue@hub.ucsb.edu
the student		mwcallah@peruvian.utah.edu
roger			syang@balboa.eng.uci.edu
Pac-man			surge@buck.cqs.washington.edu
Snidly			beorn@ic
Exodus			exodus@iastate.edu
FillInTheBlank		jive@grumpy.ssc.gov
WeenieBlaster		lyodav@iastate.edu
Pete			pychen@argon
Swindle			rajah@soda
Whirlly Bird		sortland@soda
Zach Paleozogt		goldfarb@ocf
guest			mikey@sgi.com
Black Knight		dvtoft@iastate.edu
BigMac			scottmm@cea
Nautilus		leblon@cea
HoldMyOwn		krk@janet.ucla.edu
Duck Dodgers		turin@soda
HEUGE			eugenehs@chaph.usc.edu
1010011010		jdr+@andrew.cmu.edu
SFOP			sfd@soda
Skycrawler		sauron@sbe.sbe.csuhayward.edu
Lasagna			vondae@sbe.sbe.csuhayward.edu
Skud the Great		tvangod@ecst.csuchico.edu


East
----
Atomic Dog		dmyers@cis.ohio-state.edu
Hector			botelle@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
Kablooie		ccgwt@blaze.trentu.ca
Porkchop		gdearing@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Phone Company		feng-thomas@cs.yale.edu
Spaceace!		hill@norman.vi.ri.cmu.edu
Assassin		tz@ll.mit.edu
Mergatroid		spot@hopeless.mess.cs.cmu.edu
Streaker 		pjw@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
Old Nick		hoswell@rintintin.colorado.edu
bloodwing		amueller@cis.ohio-state.edu
bav			bav@hobbes.ksu.ksu.edu
G			ds8t+@andrew.cmu.edu
Spectre			sward+@cmu.edu
chi			MrYuk+@cmu.edu
Gamera			sjsmith@cs.umd.edu
Bargler			agillum@magnusug.acs.ohio-state.edu
Warlock			jb7m+@andrew.cmu.edu
W. T. Sherman		zog@freezer.cns.udel.edu
psycho bomber		court+@cmu.edu
Balton			cb39@andrew.cmu.edu
Ladyhawke		nm0w+@andrew.cmu.edu
Zen Ogger		mcp@cs.umd.edu
Wreck			leonard@cs.umd.edu
Satan			boardman@cs.ColoState.edu
ryche			cm5m+@andrew.cmu.edu
Belgarath		barbares@hp1.sm.dsi.unimi.it
ROMVLVS			jt2n+@andrew.cmu.edu
TheMule			colombo@ghost.dsi.unimi.it
War			sala@pluto.sm.dsi.unimi.it
Grey Elf		markiel@callisto.pas.rochester.edu
Gyrfalcon		wchuang@athena.mit.edu
Crowbar			thalerj@cps.msu.edu
Ged			mdm@cis.ohio-state.edu

Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: ppregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Peter Pregler)
Subject: RSA and Europe.
Keywords: RSA, Europe, foreign server 
Organization: RISC, J.K. University of Linz, Austria
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:12:09 GMT

In article <61806@mimsy.umd.edu>, mcp@cs.umd.edu (Mike Polek) writes:
> As for exporting the code, I have encrypted the files on pittslug,
> and anyone else who has uploaded files to any other FTP server
> should have done the same, with the key I used. You must be a US
> citizen to get the crypt key from me, and you must be at a site
> within the US. (Canada also counts.) Since crypt is not available
> outside the US, there should be no problem with the key sneaking out
> either. I don't intend to let it out of the country, but if it does,
> the files should still be safe.
> 
> I apologize to all our foreign friends. Although the copyright/
> munitions classification is a highly controversial issue, (I'm
> told articles appear in the ACM every so often) there's nothing
[some suggestions for foreign server-gods deleted]

Thanks for your concern. I looked into the details the last days and I think the
RSA is no problem if you try to take care of a few things:
1) keep on storing the blessed binaries crypted.
2) separate the reserved.c stuff in two parts:
   - ALL the utlity routines (the long-integer-math-stuff) extra. they cannot
     prosecute you because you released this.
   - the call to the RSA-encoding extra, so  reserved.c should contain only
     calls to RSA_encrypt.
   - the real RSA-encoding in an extra-file which you can crypt if law demands.
This has the advantage that you break no law (I hope) and that it is VERY easy
to set up an alternate scheme (or recode RSA :).  And please write a short
document about the used datastructures to encrypt (the key-format).
If you follow the rules above I can see no problems for Europeans to play netrek
in the states and vice versa with similar binaries (or even the same, who knows).

-Peter (god of melmac.risc.uni-linz.ac.at -> that's in Austria).

PS: Please do not crypt the whole server/client-code! Just do it for the
    'security'-stuff. 
-- 
Make a remark, it's ridiculous to leave all the conversation to the pudding.
-------------------------------
Peter Pregler / RISC, University of Linz, Austria
Bitnet: K315470@AEARN.BITNET  Internet: ppregler@risc.uni-linz.ac.at
From: spot@CS.CMU.EDU (Scott Draves)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: sunscreamer's How to be a Scoutbomber, part 2
Date: 7 Nov 92 23:25:53 GMT
	<1992Nov6.221729.11004@athena.mit.edu>
	<oeysZVO00VpZ4kGlMy@andrew.cmu.edu>
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: spot@COBOL.FOX.CS.CMU.EDU



ZZ> 	Well, one thing -- if the torps are coming while you're on the
ZZ> planet, raise shields and det.  If you're lucky, you can take 8 CA
ZZ> torps and still have shields left.


that depends.  if it's the standard wall o torps, with a maternal CA
following close behind at warp 9, don't bother detting.  you will die.
better to use the extra time while the torps move from your det radius
to your impact radius to get in possible exta bombing.

-- 
				orgasm
Scott Draves			nitrous
spot@cs.cmu.edu			death
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: IC forfiets
From: hill@norman.VI.RI.CMU.EDU (Robert Hill)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 17:49:36 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon


IC forfeits their playoff game to side salad.  IC's captain said that they  
didn't have enough people to play.  I'm amused by this because we pretty  
much gave IC picks of any day in the last two weeks or so (to my  
understanding), they chose thursday, then forfieted at the last minute  
after being top playoff seed (*snicker*).

Kindof reminds me of greg(stiletto, IC captain) running from oggers to  
third space and plasmaing himself against the wall to avoid giving the  
ogger the kill of the armies.  Or shift-Qing so they didn't get the kill  
if he didn't have plasma.  He does both of these fairly commonly.

Of course, a wins a win...we'll take it...

See you on the net,

Rob
aka Spaceace!
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: jeffw@cs.tamu.edu (Jeffrey A Waller)
Subject: Client/Server question
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 00:37:26 GMT

How does the client-server pair determine the trajectory of
torps/phasers?  Does the client send only the direction
to the server, or does it send the direction and
the point at which the ship was when it fired, or does
it calculate the position at which the torps/phaser were
aimed and send those coordinates?  None of the above?

						-Jeff
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu (Chris Siebenmann)
Subject: Re: A pair of idiot-caliber questions (maybe...)
Organization: Ziebmef home away from home
Date: 7 Nov 92 11:51:34 GMT

jecoleb@eos.ncsu.edu writes:
[about the berkeley client:]
| It seems that every few minutes the "Update galactic map ___" toggle
| spontaneously reverts to DON'T update without so much as a by-your-leave.

 I am surprised more people haven't hit this. 'M' will toggle galactic
map updates if not remapped; it is, of course, ever so close to 'm' to
start typing a message. I had to read the source to find this (I thought
it was a bug, and I was all ready to go hacking with blunt objects).
'N' will toggle planet names, by the way.

 I remapped 'M' posthaste once I found this out, needless to say.
People who don't have a keymap are probably working too hard.

--
	"zsh has all the useful features of ksh, plus many of
	 the useless ones."		- Paul Falstad		
cks@hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu	           ...!{utgpu,utzoo,watmath}!utgpu!cks
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 13:51:39 -0500 
From: Michael Juster <MrYuk+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: sunscreamer's How to be a Scoutbomber, part 2
	<Bx9qz8.4IB.2@cs.cmu.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.netrek: 6-Nov-92 Re: sunscreamer's How
to be.. Robert Hill@norman.VI.RI (4058)

> > chi		PS,KS,D,F+	watch out, he's got a gun; distract

> Biggest runnerscum in the game, probably.  Add RS.


Thanks Rob.

-Mike
Admiral chi - bronco, rwd4, discovery, sturgeon
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: wyvern@iastate.edu (Nuno Bettencourt)
Subject: Re: NHL: Let's Get rjones Back! [was Re: Hockey All-Star team...]
Keywords: GO LEAFS!!!!!
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:13:50 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.045213.16957@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ramid@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rudy Amid) writes:
>sjsmith@cs.umd.edu (Stephen Joseph Smith) writes:
>
>>Proposed: That someone with a lot more time than me organizes the Netrek
>>Hockey League for next semester.
>
>>If you haven't played netrek hockey, well, you're missing out.
>>Let's get rjones back!
>
>    If you're interested, make yourself known.  I'll join rjones' team. :>

	I've played hockey at the hockey.ksu.edu server, but usually it's
completely empty save 1 or 2 other people. Where are the popular hockey
servers? What are the most popular times? I think the game is cool, and I'd
love it a whole lot more if you could get sizable teams :)
	I'd be willing to arrange a hockey team here at ISU, just as long
as it wasn't continually bashed like the INL team. (good luck to me eh?)

Wyvern
wyvern@iastate.edu
From: hadley@thoth.ics.uci.edu (Tedd Hadley)
Subject: Re: berkeley client
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Organization: UC Irvine Department of ICS
Date: 7 Nov 92 22:10:49 GMT

In <721105496.23229.0@jabbah.weh.andrew.cmu.edu> Rick <stimpy+@cmu.edu> writes:

> mehlhaff@soda.berkeley.edu (ERic MeHlHaFf) writes:
>#
># Heh, no netrek clients that I know of allow you to resize windows.
>#

>this is not true. I'm not asking to be able to change the size of
>the window, as in scale everything to the new size. I want to be
>able to resize it with the window manager. Like, lift up the bottom
>so you can see the galactic and tactical while doing something in an
>emacs window below them.  :)

   It's a user-interface philosophical thing.  Well-behaved X clients are
   supposed to provide hints to the window manager about whether or not
   resizing means anything to them (the netrek client clearly doesn't
   understand resizing).  Then it's up to the window manager to decide
   how to use that information to help, or, in this case, to avoid confusing
   the user.

   Now it seems to me that window managers should provide a way for
   users to override this behavior (at their own risk, of course), but
   I couldn't find it in mwm or twm... (looking for something like
   ignoreSizeHints).  So as a last resort, you should be able to disable
   resizing restrictions by commenting out the calls to XSetWMNormalHints
   in x11window.c.

++
   Tedd Hadley (hadley@uci.edu)
From: mcp@cs.umd.edu (Mike Polek)
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: NEW RSA SERVER!!!!!!!!
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:26:46 GMT

Well, the RSA stuff is already mostly done, with the exception of
one upcoming bug fix to get around a borg problem. Alan, if you have
the PGP stuff and want to forward it to me, or let me know where I
can get it, I'll be happy to look at it.

As for exporting the code, I have encrypted the files on pittslug, 
and anyone else who has uploaded files to any other FTP server
should have done the same, with the key I used. You must be a US
citizen to get the crypt key from me, and you must be at a site
within the US. (Canada also counts.) Since crypt is not available
outside the US, there should be no problem with the key sneaking out
either. I don't intend to let it out of the country, but if it does,
the files should still be safe.

I apologize to all our foreign friends. Although the copyright/
munitions classification is a highly controversial issue, (I'm 
told articles appear in the ACM every so often) there's nothing
I can do about it. I would suggest that foreign servers go through
the (minor) trouble of coming up with a new reserved.c that is
compatible with the old one, but yields a different algorithm.
It can be cleanly added to RSA servers, and we can add some code
so that server gods can designate which foreign addresses may
use the foreign encoding. Letting the new reserved.c run rampant
in this country won't matter, as folks here would have to use
RSA clients. 

The next release of the RSA stuff should be up soon with the
latest patch. I'll post to let people know.

Mike Polek
<mcp@cs.umd.edu>

Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: josh@cqs.washington.edu (Josh Hayes)
Subject: Re: SBs and TMNT
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:50:23 GMT

amueller@dory.cis.ohio-state.edu (andrew j mueller) writes:

>	i've found the same thing, NEVER NEVER NEVER mention netrek in front
>	of my wife, she goes into wild rages over my "waste of time". i just
>	don't tell her where the lab is...she can never come in and check-up

Well, I'm certainly not in the same league as those other married
types as far as netrek goes, but I am married....my wife works in
the same "lab" (it's a string of offices, really), too, so she
often catches me at it during work hours.

Then again, I'm at work seven days a week, twelve hours a day, so
I manage to work a little work in, in between netrek sessions. 

My wife finds the game completely uninteresting, which is strange,
because she's just gone back to college as a CS major. I thought
ALL CS majors liked netrek.....

the foul-mouthed immature plebeian doctor

--
Josh Hayes, Quantitative Sciences HR-20 U of Washington
josh@mowgli.cqs.washington.edu             206 543-5004
Let's talk about your car. It's screaming, "Wash me please!"
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: f3w@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mark Gellis)
Subject: Help!  Potential new player would like information.
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:44:16 GMT


In my search to find ways to avoid working on my dissertation, I stumbled
across this news group.  This game sounds really interesting (and it sounds
a lot like Stellar Emperor on GEnie, which I enjoyed when I played it some
years ago).  I would greatly appreciate information on the game background,
game scenarios, teams, how to register as a player (can I simply telnet in
or do I need game software on my machine and/or account?), etc.  

To avoid wasting bandwidth, please just send me email.  Thanks in advance.

Mark 
f3w@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Subject: Re: sunscreamer's How to be a Scoutbomber, part 2
From: "Timothy C. Worsley" <tw1r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Date: Thu,  5 Nov 1992 14:29:45 -0500 
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.netrek: 5-Nov-92 sunscreamer's How to be
a S.. Prime f. H. Bagels@ccwf. (5973)

> ZZNew Guy	PS,F+,D,O	reveals intentions by refitting; avoid

	A good critsism.  I need to work on that.  I'd rate myself as "A".  Rob
would call me "T".


Warsong PS O D F+ L A T  	Why are you scoutbombing alone?


ZZnew guy
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: ramid@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rudy Amid)
Subject: Re: Hockey All-Star team...
Keywords: GO KINGS!!!!
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 06:52:05 GMT

echeverr@scf.usc.edu (Luc Robitaille) writes:

[List of your-usual-Netrek-star]

>(of course, this is all that comes to mind right now, i may have forgotten
>	someone...)

Add Gamera in there.  I played with him for a while on netrek.ksu and
I think he scored 80% of Ori's goals. :>

Btw, I bet this has been brought up before, it'll be neat to have a
hockey tournament.  Anyone's arranging such a tourney?

>5150
--
!Rudy Amid              ///
a434amid@cdf.toronto.edu//
amid@r-node.gts.org   ///
Netrek/IRC: Radix  \\X//
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: mccoy@ils.nwu.edu (Jim Mccoy)
Subject: Re: Bronco Problem
Reply-To: mccoy@ils.nwu.edu
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 04:15:19 GMT

> In <1992Nov4.062817.2544@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU> von@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Steve Von Worley) writes:
> 
>It seems something is wrong with bronco.  Last night, I had trouble
>logging in; the client would prompt me for my handle, then freeze
>before prompting me for my password.


Today I had something happen while on bronco that seems equally strange.
At around 6pm (CST) I logged in and entered as a rom.  I flew a short
distance and ate a torp stream while trying to change a part of my keymap.
Then I find myself instantly entered as a Fed cruiser (I never even saw the
ship selection screen) and a message went out to all saying I was entering
the game again, but with an address and login that was not mine (someone at 
umich). 

Later I was flying along at condition green when my ship suddenly explodes,
I am told that I was killed by a torp from thier base at Rom (talk about
long range torps...) and when I reenter I see an ALL message saying that I
have left the game (with the same incorrect login and hostname as was
printed when I was switched from Rom to Fed).  I suspect that the server
somehow got me confused with another player entering and later leaving, but
I might as well ask the server hackers if they have any idea what caused
this... 


Very strange.

jim
-- 
Jim McCoy          |  PGP 2.0 Key md5 hash:
j-mccoy@nwu.edu    |  61323c49024cb089337c78a05aafe8c6
mccoy@ils.nwu.edu  |  finger mccoy@ils.nwu.edu for public key


Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: facaldar@uncc.edu (Frank A Caldart)
Subject: Re: sun.udp
Keywords: SUN.UDP
Reply-To: facaldar@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 06:14:00 GMT

Hey :
	Sorry you guys... I thought binaries were O.K. out here.
fc.



Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
Date: Fri,  6 Nov 1992 00:49:18 -0500 
From: "Timothy C. Worsley" <tw1r+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: How Not To Pick A Captain (was Re: more exodus bashing; also call for scrimmages)
	<palane.720989197@pv7412.vincent.iastate.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.netrek: 5-Nov-92 Re: How Not To Pick A
Capta.. Paul A. Lane@iastate.edu (2141)

> However, judging from the team's
> performance against Xgolems, the team has some resiliancy. [Got back up to 7
> planets after being down to 3 before falling back.] And this was with ME as
> a handicap. [Lousy scout bomber.] 

	No matter what one's oppinions of HB or TOFW, using a game vs XG in
which be played with 2 team members and 6 subs (many of whom had never
play in a tournement game before) as a reference won't get you a lot of
respect.  I sincerely hope that TOFW and HB have a chance to play a
scandle-free game.  

ZZnew guy

PS

	No one has mentioned it one RGN, yet, but I'm under the impression that
our MIT subs preformed well under presure.  Expect a competitive team
from MIT next year.  
	Good god, a whole team in the image of Warsong.  Sort of baffles the
mind.  BLOOD
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org (Felix S. Gallo)
Subject: Re: The use of profanity
Followup-To: rec.games.netrek
Organization: Real/Time Communications
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 23:23:56 GMT

adc@tardis.msu.edu writes:
>In article 721334963@mowgli, josh@cqs.washington.edu (Josh Hayes) writes:
>>
>> Don't accuse me of being that shallow unless you know me. 
>
>I've always been taught to judge people by their actions, not by what
>they claim to be.  People accuse you because of your actions and
>postings on the net, which in alot of people's estimations have
>consistently been immature.  If you choose to use profanity then you
>must take the responsibilty of your actions; alot of people will think
>you're an immature fool.

As opposed to just an illiterate fool? (cf. "alot", "responsibilty")

Speaking for the majority of people who read and post to this newsgroup,
Alan D. Cabrera, I don't know who the "people" are who "accuse" Josh
of being shallow, and I don't know who the "people" are who will --
in your estimation -- condemn John en masse for being immature.  In
fact, let me take this revelation a little further: I don't know who
you are, and I don't know anyone who plays netrek who does know who
you are.  All I see is this fellow leaping into rec.games.netrek moralizing
and making proclamations and now, just recently, nominating himself to
be supreme moderator of the netrek world.  I hate to say it, Alan D.
Cabrera, but we don't need you.  What's more, we don't want you.  To
go even further, we wish you would go away.

>Having a Ph.D. doesn't make you mature, it just means you're an
>immature brat with a Ph.D.

In much the same respect, being Alan D. Cabrera of the Computer Laboratory
at Michigan State University doesn't invest in you the powers of state
over netrek, rec.games.netrek, or the players and posters therein; it
doesn't give you the voice of the people; it doesn't give you squat.
Josh has earned the respect of many people reading this newsgroup by being
a good player and reasonable poster to this newsgroup.  Nobody I know
holds even close to the same amount of respect for you.  But then,
egotistical, featureless, uninteresting yapping tends to color the
mental picture of a man.

I hope that you, Alan D. Cabrera, come to the realization that you are
wrong to leap into a newsgroup -- which you don't even actively participate
in -- and moralize and threaten and proclaim yourself a candidate for
moderator.  Please don't make the various intelligent people who read
this group humiliate you in news.groups.  We have better things to do
with our time than teach you how to use a kill file.

The net does not exist for your personal aesthetic pleasure.

>Alan Cabrera				internet:  adc@tardis.cl.msu.edu
-- 
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Felix Sebastian Gallo                              rhodesia@wixer.cactus.org
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Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek
From: rjones@dsd.es.com (Ray Jones - Perp)
Subject: Re: Hockey All-Star team...
Keywords: GO KINGS!!!!
Reply-To: rjones@dsd.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 22:19:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov7.065205.153@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, ramid@nyx.cs.du.edu (Rudy Amid) writes:
>echeverr@scf.usc.edu (Luc Robitaille) writes:
>
>[List of your-usual-Netrek-star]
>
>>(of course, this is all that comes to mind right now, i may have forgotten
>>	someone...)
>
>Add Gamera in there.  I played with him for a while on netrek.ksu and
>I think he scored 80% of Ori's goals. :>
>
>Btw, I bet this has been brought up before, it'll be neat to have a
>hockey tournament.  Anyone's arranging such a tourney?

This would be enough to get me back into the netrek "scene" again.
The INL no longer is interesting to me, I want the INHL! :)

-- 
                                          rjones@dsd.es.com
Newsgroups: rec.games.netrek