HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: henry@netcom.com (Henry Polard)
Subject: Re: Amanda wants to be a Kesh
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:39:12 GMT

>Anyway, i really really feel like being Kesh, 
>but there's no such thing as a lone Kesh...."  Amanda lapses into contemplation
>of a whole people, a society with a strong bond and identity that nevertheless
>does not inpinge upon the personhood of its members. 
>
>"Now if only i could *find* the Valley...."
>

Henry gets his alto recorder and tootles the Kesh Jig on it.

He then says, "To praphrase a certain Luke, the valley of the Kesh
is within you. And to paraphrase Field of Dreams, Behave like one,
and they will come to you."

He takes a step towards his chair, and nearly falls onto the floor, 
not having noticed the box that grew under him. 

 Henry Polard, | Your golden wine is sweet, my friend,   / from _Banished
  Wordslinger  | come fill my cup with amber.           / Immortal_
  Have Brains  | If we drink long enough together,      \ Visions of Li T'ai-Po
  Will Travel  | we'll drown the loneliness of strangers \ Tr. by Sam Hamill
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu (David Green)
Subject: Re: Did This Work ???
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:49:27 GMT

In article <JBrandt-161292084224@aaa.uoregon.edu> JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Thyra) writes:
->Hi Jack, 
->
->Can't get to you by e-mail. I tried two ways. So I'll post instead.
->
->To: Brandt, Jay
->
->   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
->421 Host eagle.wesleya.edu not found for mailer ether.
->550 <dperry@eagle.wesleya.edu>... Host unknown
->
[... Lots deleted ...]

I think, from having seen other people at this site, that the address is
"@eagle.wesleyan.edu"
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From: ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: second thoughts about a friendship
Date: 17 Dec 1992 09:19:23 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
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Liralen says ...
>I now am very careful to make it clear that
>I'm no Patron Saint.  I'm human.  I have flaws, I have pain, I have
>idiocies, I have a hell of a temper and I can't solve anyone's problems
>for them.  I can listen, I can offer a hug or two, but I'm no messiah and
>no one to fix people's lives."  

Abner smiles.  "Liralen Li, the Patron Saint of Recognizing One's Own Flaws."


Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Ah yes, I should make some sort of popping-back in post
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:21:53 GMT



>	After talking with Taldin, Rachel looks around at everyone
>and grins widely. "It is nice to be back. I love my husband dearly,
>and therefore I only have time to use the computer when he is away,
>because I enjoy spending time with him! (Is this what cynics mean
>when they tell people to get a life? It is hard to make time for
>callahans in my busy life...) Still, I can always answer my email,
>because that has a _much_ lower volume." (HINT!)

kitten hugs rachel..."glad to have you back dear rachel...i know how
hard it is to be busy.  btw, i net when my husband works on games...he
plays and refs...that takes lots of time and we can't really "share"
it... then we take time to talk after.

(of course i keep my terminal on my kitchen table, not being a
fabulous cook like some of the patrons here...keeps me right on tomp
of things.  i net before breakfast, after supper, before i go to
bed...on break at work...)

i took your hint, as you will see....."


--
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conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"love is the wild card of existance"
                          rita mae brown
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From: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk (Mary Branscombe)
Subject: Re: "Humor" and real humor
Reply-To: maryb@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:38:00 +0000


Splash says
> Hmmm - I feel exactly the same way ... some of you might be familiar with
> the UK TV show "Fawlty Towers"; I know a _lot_ of people who absolutely
> cringe at Basil Fawlty's (John Cleese) antics and the disasters which
> befall him.  Another, similar show was "Some Mothers do have 'em" starring
> Michael Crwaford.  Needless to say, I switched off at the point these
> shows came on.

Ditto on Some Mothers... but with Fawlty Towers you weren't *supposed 
to sympathise with BasilFawlyt. Doesn't mean it's OK ot laugh at him, 
but it was set up as a parody of a type, not of an individual and it 
was *much funnier than Some Mothers... as well. IMHO. The disasters 
befell other people usually and there wasn't too much long drawn out 
stuff...  It was surreal, whereas Michael Crawford's Frank Spencer 
was trying to real and being humiliated and humiliating.... You 
always felt Basil was basically strong enough to cope but Frank might 
give in pathetically any moment ( *I always felt...). I did enjoy 
Fawlty Towers and I *didn't enjoy Some Mothers... Does that make 
sense or am I inconsistent?

MaryTail waves herself


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From: JBrandt@AAA.UOregon.EDU (Jason)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Silk and Steel 5
Followup-To: alt.callahans
Date: 16 Dec 1992 07:12:38 GMT
Organization: the Polyhedron Group
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: aaa.uoregon.edu

Jason pauses before ducking into the Danger Room. He looks like he is about
to take on a riot single-handed, ala Rambo, but the weapons are all
paintball versions for the 'game' he and Liralen are playing.

"Hi folks. For those of you who are interested, I just posted part 5 of my
Cyberpunk story (novella?) 'Silk and Steel' on alt.cyberpunk.chatsubo".

"Copies of all 5 issues are available from me by e-mail".

"Hope you enjoy it. Now, if you'll excuse me, I've got a game to play with
Li in the Danger Room. Time for some excercise!"

As he opens the door to the Danger Room, a siren and gunfire can be heard
within. He goes through the door in a diving roll, to the sound of
squealing tires. The door closes behind him, and the normal quiet (?)
chatter of the bar resumes.

Jason
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: A rather flustered brumby
From: mcspikgfm@dct.ac.uk
Date: 11 Dec 92 12:08:04 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology
Summary: Birth of a small Brumby

In article <brumby.723959889@nella7.cc.monash.edu.au>, brumby@nella7.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen McNamara) writes:
> 
>    The brumby appears for a few moments, looking rather nervous and
> flustered.
>    "At 9 o'clock this morning, Robyn's waters broke. So sometime very soon,
> I am going to become a father. When I left her at the hospital to come back
> and collect a few things she was having mild irregular contractions, with
> no idea whether they were going to become stronger or not. Anyway, if she
> hasn't gone into labour by tomorrow morning, they will want to induce the
> birth."
>    "So I am probably not going to be around for a few days, I'll be rather
> busy. I'll let people know how things have gone when I get over all this."
> 
>    The brumby looks at the fireplace and pauses a moment.
> 
>    "I think I'll save the toasting till afterwards, when we have a name to
> toast."
> 
>    "Until then."
> 
>    The brumby turns and trots out the door, ears twitching nervously.
> 
> 
> -- 
>      The Silver Brumby of          brumby@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
>       the Silicon Plains            brumby@zikzak.apana.org.au
> 
>       The grass is always greener on the other side of the network.



	Oh wow.....well....errr what can I say but good luck...to you and
Robyn.
	Well mostly to her cause she needs it more than you....
	You just need friends to say "Hope everythings alright!"

							Mel.

	Hope everythings alright!!!!! 
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From: mwasson@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Michael Wasson)
Subject: egg nog (was Teddybears, Snow-Sprites, &c.)
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:53:35 GMT


>The Didi-Sprite looks up from the pile of Christmas Magazines she is
>perusing:  "Did someone mention egg-nog!  Ooooo ... yummy!  Mike?
>Could I have a noggin, please? (Giggle.)  Hi, Gecko-boy!  If I haven't
>said so before ... Welcome to Callahans!"

"Why thank you, -Sprite. I don't know if you have or you haven't ...
but a romp in the snow seemed like a nice enough welcome! BTW, nice
teddy-bear graphics you had there. Quite impressive!"

>
>----<--<@
>
>The Didi-Sprite

the gecko boy (warm and cozy now)

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From: keulen@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Splash!)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Chess match
Date: 16 Dec 1992 05:18:50 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au

amanda@wam.umd.edu (Me again) writes:

>In article <> keulen@csuvax1.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Splash!) writes:
>>u906451@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Damien Saunders) writes:
>>
>>>Before exams I was playing a game of chess against a friend of mine Delroy, 
>>>or Del for short. The game was said to be the battle of the incompedants by 
>>>both of us the game was won by a checkmate by me with a Queen and King verus 
>>>a King.
>>
>>Chuckle - sounds like the way I play chess ... unfortunately I couldn't
>>find a partner who played the same way, and I was continually defeated
>>soundly.  Needless to say I found the game quite boring after a while, and
>>haven't played in years :-)

>I'll play ya!  I have the same problem <grin>...

You're on ... ummm, that makes three of us so far.  Can you play three
dimensional chess with three people?

Splash!

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		Splash!		*To love is to LIVE!*
   (aka Mike van Keulen -- e-mail: keulen@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu (Barbara Trumpinski)
Subject: Re: Sainthood
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:44:25 GMT



>KLUNK

>"$.02 DEPARTMENT:" says Nick, sitting at his table, looking somewhat
>sad.

>"All this discussion about God and Truth and Science. Now Liralen claims
>not to be the Patron Saint of anything. She is right. Like everyone else
>here she is not a saint.

>"Liralen, like all of us, Thou Art God."

kitten, who is in lurker mode, has to respond to this...."thou art god
and i am god and all who grok are god"....first heard that when i was
16... i love you....you hunk of tin with a heart of gold...

...and remember "shared pain is lessened, shared joy is
increased....thus do we refute entropy."  liralen...give your friend
flowers while he is alive...he can't enjoy them when he's dead."

--
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conan the librarian a.k.a. kitten           /\ /\  barbara ann 
"my life's a soap opera, isn't yours?"      {=.=}
                                              ~   trumpins@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu 
"love is the wild card of existance"
                          rita mae brown
From: jodybean@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (zaphod-)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: a Guy in a Yankee's cap enters ...
Date: 15 Dec 92 09:59:16 GMT
Reply-To: jodybean@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (zaphod-)

about da lime spider...

Sounds like a variation on the root beer float, no?  Or am I confused and
is it the other way around in actuallity?
__.__.__.__.__
jodybean@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu   
"How much of our lives is just idle conversation?" -- bean thought # 11

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: youngj4@sage4a.its.rpi.edu (Jeffrey 'Taldin' Young)
Subject: Re: second thoughts about a friendship
Reply-To: youngj4@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:45:34 GMT


Taldin's been listening quietly to this discussion for awhile...

"Feather- distance is a hard thing.  It means you won't get t
see the person for a long time, and have doubts about whether 
he'll find someone else closer.    That's one defense you've got.
If he claims to want to move closer, I hope you can set him
straight on the realities of moving across countries. (Heck.
There's enough problem with moving across states for some people.)"

"Migods I'm tired.  I just re-read that last paragraph.  I know
R-Crow doesn't feel the same way for him, never thought she did for
a moment.  To this friend, however, R-crow is the neatest thing
since sliced bread- a friend who is quite obviously caring and
pays attention to him.   To just show interest means something,
which can be easily blown way outta proportion.  I know this feeling;
I've been there.  And boy, did I pay for it.  In spades.  Especially
across distances, as someone else said, you can only see the right
and not the wrong about the other person.   And even if you're
told, you're deaf to the faults.  Love can be blind. Especially one-way."

R-Crow: 
"The kindest thing you can do for him is to say 'no.'"

"If he tries to guilt trip you, or tell you that he can't live without
you, you are going to have to bite down.  Tell him that he can.  Tell
him he has been all along;  tell him that he has from well before
he met you.  But that you honestly can't support him as more than a friend,
and that that has been all you have been doing."

"Someone who is very dear to me ran into a similar problem;  she's
in the habit of tacking 'hon' or 'luv' on the end of her sentences.
Someone who was quite closed took it the wrong way, and declared
to the net they were going out.   Which she had never intended...
fortunately they seem to have worked things out. Whats most important
is that you make sure that he understands that you have a life
that is elsewhere.  And that you want to remain friends.  And naught more.
I've kept a very beautiful friendship with someoen who I had a crush
on because she kept me at arms length, and was honest with me.  And it
worked out in the end..."

"Sorry for not being more coherent.   But I just figured I'd mention
that I've been where your friend is- self-deprecating and self-pitying.
There is hope- and it doesn't have to be you."

Taldin


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From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Utopiae (Was: Amanda wants to be a Kesh)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 23:23:59 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <105064@bu.edu>, mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes) writes:
=>>actually, I do have a point, lemme ramble a little more)  But, life is not
=>>(as a rule) what we make it, so sometimes we get to, er, 'step back.'  
=
=>Splash pipes up:  "Au contraire my friend ... I'm interested in a
=>philosophy called Conscious Reality Creation - `life is what you make it',
=>on some level.  One of my favourite phrases is `If life sends you lemons,
=>make lemonade!'  Just a comment ..."
=
="Thanks, Splash!"  /* had been listening, with some consternation, to Big
=Al's discourses on utopias, and life.
=
="I've never heard of 'Conscious Reality Creation,' but it seems
=pretty similar to the idea behind how I live day-to-day."

Nor have I, but it sounds rather like some new-age stuff that I ran across when
someone in talk.religion.newage crossposted to sci.skeptic.  The more nutty of
its adherents claim to believe that their consciousness actually creates
objective reality.  E.g., the Landers earthquake last spring was just
somebody's imagination.

="The reason why Big Al's statement concerned me is that I think
=too many people believe that they have no control over what happens
=in their life.  In fact, I believe a lot of people live their lives
=that way without even consciously realizing it."

Just how much control did I have over whether or not the Landers quake
occurred?  Admittedly, we all have some control over our lives, but that
control is far from complete.

="It can sound extreme, and I am not always able to describe
=this philosophy clearly to others, but the more you *believe*
=you can do something about situations, the better you feel
=about yourself, and the more likely it is you actually *do*
=something to change what you don't like."

True.  And there's even an adage stating it briefly:  Nothing succeeds like
success.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: mwasson@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Michael Wasson)
Subject: Re: Utopiae (Was: Amanda wants to be a Kesh)
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:24:58 GMT

Big Al is saying:
>"SO," Those who had fallen asleep suddenly snap awake, their note-taking 

Gecko-boy wakes with a jolt from a nightmare in which he's taking the
final for a class he never attended during the semester.
"HUH?!? Whazzat?...."

>instincts coming back, "Call For Discussion: Favorite Mythological areas and
>cultures.  Where, Who, What.  Give virtues.  For extra credit, create your
>OWN area."

"...damn, was this on the syllabus? I forgot to do the readings... OK,
let's think. Well, I've always been partial to the world in _Stars In
My Pocket Like Grains of Sand_ (Samuel Delaney). 

"It's a world co-populated by humans and a species of dragon-like aliens.
Delaney's big on the idea of 'heterotopias' -- that is, S/F worlds as
confusing and complicated as our own. So throughout the book there are
hints that the culture he's describing is only a small segment of the
entire planet. What eh describes, tho', is a large family of both
humans and aliens (I can no longer remember what the aliens are called).
Obviously the family isn't organized strictly by blood-lines (since
the two species can't produce viable offspring together) but all the
children are the responsibility of the entire family. In fact, a 
person has a "job" with a specific set of responsibilities w/in
the family just as s/he has a job outside the family.
	
"(He uses the metaphor of a river; each generation is like a stream
feeding into the river.)

"Another interesting feature of the novel is that Delaney changes the
use of personal pronouns, so that he/she no longer refer to gender.
Instead, 'she' is a generic pronoun and 'he' is used by someone 
in reference to her SO. Which means that the gender of most of the
characters is unclear.

"He depicts a world in which gender, race, and even species are
not barriers to finding a lover or building a family; and in which
people's lives have structure but those structures aren't considered
universal -- i.e., no religious right telling you you're not legit."

Gecko-boy has been scribbling furiously, glancing every so often 
at his watch. 

"Sheesh ... couldn't they have made this multiple-choice?"


--The Geck'  (who really *is* in finals...)

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From: ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Pizza Party
Date: 17 Dec 1992 09:16:04 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
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Sayeth the Jilara, who had been missing far too long:
>"Hmm, must have been a problem with sugar with me, even back
>then.  Never much liked sugar.  And after my 7th birthday
>party, when I tried to eat a piece of birthday cake with what
>must have been an inch of very gooey concentrated icing on it,
>I couldn't touch icing for about twenty years after that.  The
>mere thought made me feel nauseous.  The only time I really
>got seriously into sugar was when I was seriously into a
>nervous breakdown.  Once I recovered, I found the same candy
>and sweets that I had craved now made me feel vaguely ill.

I generally don't like sweets either.  I'll eat them if nothing else is
available (and if it's not before about 2 PM) but I prefer fruit or veggies
for snacks...

>"On the other hand, I've always had this fixation with
>spinach.  All through childhood, I demanded spinach, and
>happily slurped up every bit I could get.  Creamed spinach
>especially.  As a matter of fact, when I feel like I *really*
>want to treat myself, as an adult, I go out and buy creamed
>spinach and spinach souffle and pig out.  Okay, I'm weird..."

Yum!  Spinach, brocolli, asparagus (OK, I'll stop drooling), cauliflower,
brussel sprouts, green beans.  Even peas arent bad if theyre hot or frozen
or fresh (nothing is as slimy as cold cooked peas, except maybe okra - bleah!)

Maybe you're not weird.  Either that, or you have company!
From: pel@maximo.enet.dec.com (Phillip E lujan)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Dalek has entered the building
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:16:59 GMT
Reply-To: pel@maximo.enet.dec.com (Phillip E lujan)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <92349.122250PJCHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>, Philip J. Comins <PJCHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
|>     Philip approaches the box and Kitten, the small hint of a smile on his
|> face. "My dear Kitten," Philip chuckles, "as everyone knows, you can't pet a
|> Dalek, or jump into his lap (he has no lap to jump into, only mutated body
|> parts. No offense, pal ...)  If you want to make him happy, let's plug him
|> into an electronic pleasure stimulator. By the way, friend Dalek, you'll have
|> to remove that weapon-arm of yours if you want to stay here for any length of
|> time.
|>     So, what thyme are you from?   (Argggh, peanuts ... hey, these are honey
|> flavoured ... yum!)
|> 
|>     Philip crawls along the floor to the bar where Mike is holding out another
|> teacup, being pelted by peanuts all the way. "Thanks, Mike. I feel like I've
|> just taken a bite out of a York Peppermint Patty. I've been blown away!"
|>     (Pause while everyone reloads their peanut bowls ...)
|>                                                      - Philip J. Comins

Starknight speaks up from where he has been relaxing in the jacuzzi.  "What
thyme is he from?  Not a very sage observation, Philip; or did you eggs-pect
this group to pass up the chance to relish another food-related string of puns?
Oil bet we have at least another six messages in this thread..."

(Raises forcefield against anticipated peanut barrage; considers, then lowers
it...  Part of the fun, no?)

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"The danger in travelling to the past is not that you might kill an ancestor of
yours; it's that you might BECOME an ancestor of yours..."  Lazarus Long
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