HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: HWANGK%VTCC1.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      publized
Reply-To: HWANGK%VTCC1.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:19:00 EDT

Dear David Yuan:

     "publized" should be "publicized."  Hope you will not misspell it again
in your psychologist career. :-)

Kai Hwang
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: GSBS006%UTSPH.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      Thanks, Guys!
Reply-To: GSBS006%UTSPH.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:54:00 CST

Hi China-netters,

        Up to this morning, I have received Dr. Zhao, Haiching's package
from 15 netters. They are,

        IIX1DYP@UCLA, XIAOFEI@ACSU, LBI@CUNYUMSI, JIAN@PINE.CIRCA.UFL,
B366JDX@UTARLVM1, G_YANG@HELIX.MGH.HARVARD, MING@BRAHMS.UDEL,
H2BR0002@SUMVM1, HE@NIEHS, XU@BERT.EECS.UIC, ZHAO@HUXTAL, JIANGH@UCS.ORST,
NINGLUO@ACSU.BUFFALO, CAOMATH@CARAVAN.KSU.KSU, 43JIANG@CUA.

        Thank you very much, guys. Your help will be very much appreciated
by this local Chinese student community. Thanks again!

Felix Jin
Texas Medical Center
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Jin-hua Yuan <YUAN%NIEHS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Fax number
Reply-To: Jin-hua Yuan <YUAN%NIEHS.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 10:37:00 EST

Dear fellows:
We, visiting fellows at National Institutes of Health, would like to
send fax letters to congressperson.  If the fax number and letter
template are available, would someperson be kindly enough to poste
them in China-Net.
We are also ready to send donation for lobby. We are not clear
which account we should use.
Please clarify.

Jinhua
Yuan@NIEHS
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Mousheng Xu <moxu@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Subject:      DON'T QUARREL,CHINESE!
Reply-To: Mousheng Xu <moxu@MAGNUS.ACS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:12:43 EDT
Comments: To: CHINA-NT@uga.cc.uga.edu

     It's so sorry to read recent China-net postings,so many Chinese
quarreled with ,and sometimes even curesed each other. We Chinese are
famous (notorous?) for disuniting,why shall we make this fame true?
     Be gentle to each other,have a love heart to each other,we are
brothers and sisters here!!
     All Chines United!!!
     ALL CHINESE UNITED!!!
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      A warning to the new elected IFCSS president
Reply-To: UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 01:08:00 EDT

The new elected IFCSS president has not answered my two questions that posted
on china net. I as a CSS, am warning the new elected president, stop wasting
time and stop inner struggle and support Zhao's lobby work. Dawei Zhou, FL
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: "Raymond C. Luh" <luh@NAS.NASA.GOV>
Subject:      Re:  Zhao Haiqing's Leadership in Lobby Activities
Reply-To: "Raymond C. Luh" <luh@NAS.NASA.GOV>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Fri, 31 Jul 1992 09:41:44 -0700
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu

>I agree with D. Zhou. Let Zhao Haiqing continue his leadership in protection
>bill. President Geng Xiao should organize nation-wide campaign to support
>Zhao Haiqing. Even President Bush has his Secretary of State and Ambassadors.
>As president of IFCSS, Mr. Geng Xiao has a lot of other things to do not just
>the lobby.                       ---Shicheng Jiang

Honorable President Geng Xiao:

Even President Bush has his Secretary of State and Ambassadors, and you
have a lot of other things to do.  I thereby nominate His Lobby Highness
Zhao Haiqing to the following posts.

1. The Secretary of State of IFCSS.  HLH Zhao would also make a good
   campaign manager for you if the occasion should arise next year.

2. Ambassador Extraordinaire.  HLH Zhao should be IFCSS' envoy to
   Taiwan.  He has proven his worthiness for such a mission.

3. IFCSS HQ Chief of Staff and Spokesperson.  HLH Zhao's skills and
   prestige are second to none in facing up to the cameras.

4. IFCSS of IFCSS.  The formal stands for Immigration Fund Cache-Safe
   Secretary.  HLH Zhao's lobby account should not be put to waste.

5. The Secretary of Transportation.  During his presidency, HLH Zhao
   had acquired the knack for earning airline frequent mileage.  It is
   time for him to share his secrets with everyone.

6. The Courier Secretary of IFCSS.  This special post should make official
   HLH Zhao's status as a courier for the US Lawmakers.

7. The Secretary of Commerce.  HLH Zhao's well-known position regarding
   China's lop-sided trade surplus against the US uniquely qualifies
   him to this post.

8. The Official IFCSS Representative to the inauguration ceremony for
   the next president of the US -- Bill Clinton.  HLH Zhao has been
   instrumental in the success of the Democratic Party thus far.


President Geng, I hope you will consider these nominations and act on
them in a timely and efficient manner.

Yours Truly,

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|  Raymond C. Luh        |  So many deeds cry out to be done always urgently.  |
|  (415)-604-4494        |  The world rolls on.  Time presses.                 |
|  luh@ame.nas.nasa.gov  |  Seize the day.  Seize the hour.   --  Mao Zedong   |
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From: HWANGK%VTCC1.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      uncompromisingness
Reply-To: HWANGK%VTCC1.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:43:00 EDT

Dear Friends:

     Tell you a well examined truth:
        Uncompromisism hurted Chinese for thousands of years. It is hurting us
now. And it is going to hurt us in the future if we still don't realize it.

                             K.H.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      HQ SR-4020: Call Chairman of Judiciary Chairman
Reply-To: IFCSS HQ <ifcss@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:56:09 -0400
Comments: To: cgsa@fuzzy.umd.edu, china-news-post@mentor.cc.purdue.edu,
              china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu, cnd-us@library.uta.edu,
              osu.chinese@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu,
              soc-culture-china@ucbvax.berkeley.edu,
              soc-rights-human@ucbvax.berkeley.edu

**************************************************************
IFCSS Headquarters Special Report No. 4020       July 29, 1992
          Please Call House Judiciary Comm. Chairman
**************************************************************
Independent Federation of Chinese Students and Scholars (IFCSS)
   733 15th Street, N.W., Suite 440, Washington, D.C.20005
         Tel. (202)347-0017  Fax: (202)347-0018
                Email: ifcss@wam.umd.edu

              Call House Judiciary Comm. Chairman
              ===================================

Dear IFCSS Members:

       Until now, the Rules Committee has not received
the request from the Judiciary Committee to take actions
on the protection bill. The request has to come from the
Chairman of the Judiciary Committee. So our work now is
to focus on him.

       Chairman of the Judiciary Committee
       Jack Brooks, Democrat, Texas, 9th District,
       Tel. 202-225-6565
       Fax  202-225-1584

       Ask him to send the request as soon as possible.

       If you call other Judiciary members, as we stated
in previous reports, thank them for their support in the
Judiciary Comm. and ask them to continue support the bill
when it comes to the Whole House.

       Congressman John Conyers, Jr. who attempted to
attach his Hatian amendment to the Protection Bill should
also receive some attention. Call his office as 202-225-5126
and ask him not to attach Hatian amendment which is
IRRELEVANT to the Protection Bill. (He is from Michigan).

       Students in Detroit may visit the local office
of Congressman John Conyers, Jr. Address:

       Congressman John Conyers, Jr.
       District Office
       Room 669, Federal Bldg.,
       231 W. Lafayette BLVD.,
       Detroit, MI 48226-2766

       Tel. (313)961-5670
       Fax  (313)226-2085

       (Visits and messages to the district office will
be sent to his office in D.C. You will have the same
effect.) If you have American friends who are willing
to help, it would be much better to let them call or
visit the office. They are VOTERS. Their words count.



       Thanks for your cooperation.

***************************************************************
         IFCSS Headquarters Office    Signature
***************************************************************
.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi)
Subject: Re: Another way to calculate economic strength
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:55:53 GMT

In article <1992Jul20.075501.19857@nntp.hut.fi> ldong@hila.hut.fi (Liyun Dong) writes:
>>GDP Per Capita in Purchasing Power is a better measure of prople's living
>>standard of a country, but not a good measure of economic strength. The fact
>>that China cannot upvalue the RMB is an indicator of weakness --- the demand
>>of foreign goods and service in China is very high because of their quality.
>>Thus even China's foreign exchange reserve is approaching $50 billion, the
>>RMB is still falling on swap market.
>
>Sometimes confidence in the RMB is also as important as the suply-and-demand.
>The Chinese Government is using 'fine-turning', trying to devalue RMB gradually
>to the rate in swap market. This has been proved unsuccessful: Whatever the 
>official rate is, market rate is always keeping a small distance from it.
>The best way to solve it is to make RMB convertable overnight someday. 
>Initially there may be some heavy devaluation, but finally the rate will 
>converge to the reasonable value. Backed by $40 billion strong reserve and an
>economy bigger than many EEC countries or Hongkong, the potential danger is
>much less than the potential gains. The biggest loser may be USA, because
>a new convertable currency entering the world money market means the further
>shrinking of the Dollar's share of the world money market, which has already
>been declining for decades.

This will put RMB in the position that can be influnced by Foreign Currency.
If G7 try to screw CHina, they will have a lot of card to play.
Example:
  Germany had strongest economy in Europe, when Germany asked other EEC
nations to recognized newly coatia, etc, reject. Germany raise her 
interests rate. At the time EEC economy in recession, all nations 
need low interest rate to boost economy. Germany's hight interest
rate would drain capital away from other EEC nations. Other EEC finally 
follow suit recognize Coatia!.
When make RMB convertable, has to be considered carefully in political term
too, get coorperation from West.
From: gsun@cs.purdue.EDU (Gang Sun)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: A open letter to council
Date: 30 Jul 92 23:25:45 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University


In article <1992Jul30.230626.23067@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>, UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu writes:
|> Council, let stop any inner struggle. Approve Zhao haiqing as the chairman
|> of CSSA to be in charge the lobby. Geng Xiao should support Zhao's lobby
|> work. Zhao need the title in lobby immediately. Immediate action. dawei Zhou


I agree.  Dr. Zhao has more experience on this kind of affair.
He is the most suitable person to be in charge now.  Any further
unner struggle will only damage the image of all Chinese students.
I believe Mr. Geng Xiao can handle this well.
From: joe@astro.as.utexas.edu (Joe Wang)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: Another way to calculate economic strength
Date: 23 Jul 92 10:47:52 GMT
Organization: McDonald Observatory, University of Texas @ Austin

In article <1992Jul21.235553.29698@ulowell.ulowell.edu> cshi@cs.ulowell.edu (Chunde Shi) writes:
>This will put RMB in the position that can be influnced by Foreign Currency.
>If G7 try to screw CHina, they will have a lot of card to play.

I wouldn't be too worried about that.  If the RMB is freely
convertible then the only way G7 can influence the exchange rate of
RMB is by buying and selling currency.  This is VERY difficult to do,
because you eat up a lot of your central bank's foreign exchange
reserve.

Central banks can influence currency exchange rates, but they
generally can't control them.

>Example:
>  Germany had strongest economy in Europe, when Germany asked other EEC
>nations to recognized newly coatia, etc, reject. Germany raise her 
>interests rate. At the time EEC economy in recession, all nations 
>need low interest rate to boost economy. Germany's hight interest
>rate would drain capital away from other EEC nations. Other EEC finally 
>follow suit recognize Coatia!.

This theory can't be true.  If it were, then how come the German
Bundesbank is still keeping interest rates high (7 to 8%) even after
all the EEC nations have recognized Croatia?

The reason that the Bundesbank is keeping interest rates high is that
the German government is spending a lot of money on the former East
Germany.  The Germans are worried that if they lower interest rates,
people will start spending more instead of saving, more money will
flow and you will get inflation.  Germans hate inflation.

Now because the Germans set such high interest rates, the other EEC
nations have to do the same since they've agreed to a coordinated
money policy.

>When make RMB convertable, has to be considered carefully in political term
>too, get coorperation from West.

Could you explain what you mean here?


Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: "Ignatius Ding" <ding@HPSMTC1.CUP.HP.COM>
Subject:      Chinese Stamp Said to Show Tiananmen Massacre Date
Reply-To: "Ignatius Ding" <ding@HPSMTC1.CUP.HP.COM>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:21:05 -0700
Comments: To: baggers%law@sun.com, china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu,
              donovan@csl.sri.com, hknet@cs.wisc.edu, how@iris.ucdavis.edu,
              ifcss%WAM.UMD.EDU@uga.cc.uga.edu,
              joseph_ng%5y@hp0200.desk.hp.com, jung_lin%40@hp1900.desk.hp.COM,
              members%ahkcus.org@diva.Berkeley.EDU, sdc@longhorn.Corp.sun.com,
              Tsui@cisco.COM, ggach@pandora.sf.ca.us, xwu@janus.Berkeley.EDU,
              cnd-editor@djohn-sun.kent.edu, melody@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com,
              jchu@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com, wuling@s1.msi.umn.edu,
              li@perry.berkeley.edu, jyee@eclair.berkeley.edu,
              Isaac.Chen@Eng.Sun.COM, ide!ide.com!cai@uunet.UU.NET,
              wwang@mail1.cis.umn.edu

China Stamp Said to Show Tiananmen Massacre Date
================================================
July 28, 1992, Page A10 - Column 1

By a Wall Street Journal Staff Reporter

    BEIJING - Chinese philatelists claim to have spotted a daring political
protest on a stamp issued by China to mark the Summer Olympics in Barcelona.

    The newly minted stamp shot up in value after collectors noted that the
numbers pinned to the shirts of three marathon runners depicted on the stamp
correspond to the date of the Tiananmen Square Massacre, June 4, 1989.  One
athlete is tagged 64, a short-hand used by Chinese to refer to the month and
day when troops and tanks fired on pro-democracy protesters around Beijing's
main square.

    The runner next to him is number 9, and to his left is number 17.  Stamp
dealers note that 1 plus 7 equal 8. By a leap of logic, they say, the numbers
identify the year 1989.  None of the other runners have numbers.

    Thousands of people eager to buy the stamp lined up at dealers in the
British colony of Hong Kong, which reverts to Chinese rule in 1997.

    The last time an unwelcome political message appeared on a Chinese stamp
was during the Culture Revolution.  That stamp was quickly withdrawn, and the
few copies that made it into the public's hands sell today at stamp auctions
for thousands of dollars.

    There has been no official comment on the marathon stamp, one in a series
of five that also depicts weight lifting, diving, basketball and gymnastics.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: "NY." <yue@MOHLSUN.PHYSICS.UPENN.EDU>
Subject:      the same reaction from James Quilen,s office
Reply-To: "NY." <yue@MOHLSUN.PHYSICS.UPENN.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:06:10 EST
Comments: To: CHINA-NT@uga.cc.uga.edu

   I had the same reaction from James Quillen's office.
The staff told me that we call for the closed rule now is premature
and we should call the Judiciary Committee for what we want right now.
Because the bill has not come out of the Judiciary Committee, technically
we don't know the final version yet. So the Rules Committee cannot do
anything.
   I am not sure if that is right. Also I think is is reasonable for us
to lobby the Judiaciary Committee.
   I suggest the HQ or those who are more familiar with the process can
clarify the confusions, and can update the status of the bill more frequently
so we can have a better sense what we should do.
From: jan@cs.uq.oz.au (Chen Jan)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: president
Date: 26 Jul 92 03:40:12 GMT
Reply-To: jan@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1992Jul24.144842.11006@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> yue@MOHLSUN.PHYSICS.UPENN.EDU (NY.) writes:


>   As I was told by the IFCSS HQ, the new president and ... will take office
>officially on Aug.1,1992. So I guess it is appropriate for Mr.Zhao to sign
>as the President.

SO it is necessary for netters to be confused before Aug. 1, 1992 :-(

CJ
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: Zuofeng Li <zuofeng@POLLUX.WUSTL.EDU>
Subject:      Re:  council email conference
Reply-To: Zuofeng Li <zuofeng@POLLUX.WUSTL.EDU>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:03:11 -0500
Comments: To: china-nt@uga.cc.uga.edu

Mr. Hwang Kai explained:

>    Our Council email conference was not a closed meeting. The following is
>the news release on china-nt publicizing the council net dated 16 days before
>the email conference began. The email conference was conducted on the formal
>council net.
>
>Kai Hwang
>Council Secretary

My charge is not that the email conference was a CLOSED one, whatever that
means. The charge was that the conference was not PUBLICIZED in advance,
as required by the IFCSS charter.

If your line of reasoning here that everyone can go read the council net
holds, then why are the RESULTS of the conference sent to China-Net but
not the ANNOUNCEMENT of the conference?

Zuofeng Li
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      HQ's reply, two presidents, work together!
Reply-To: UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:12:00 EDT

From:   edu%"ifcss@wam.umd.edu"      "IFCSS HQ" 28-JUL-1992 19:34:19.91
To:     UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
CC:
Subj:   Re:  Third question to the new elected IFCSS president

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To: UFDZ%UFPINE.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject: Re:  Third question to the new elected IFCSS president

As in the past, student affairs committee is in charge of lobby
activities.

The Communication Committee is in charge of set-up a community
database.

Thanks for your inquiry.

ZQS
From: ningluo@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ning Luo)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: Found this post somewhere else, isn't it interesting?
Date: 31 Jul 92 06:27:09 GMT
Organization: UB

It is only interesting for its "novelty".
This MIM has been debating with people on "china-study-forum"
for quite long.  Eventually, most CSS gave up hope to
communicate with them.  They are not here to exchange,
they are here to do propaganda, which many including myself
have had more than enough in China.  If you argue with them
for a while, you'll find that they do nothing but talk.
For example, when challenged why they didn't leave the
"evil empire" in their view (USA) to go to those places
where they "ideals" have a much better chance to succeed,
for example, China, their response was that they didn't
have the funds to go!  What can you say:-)?
Luo Ning
-- 
Luo, Ning
218 CCC Bldg
Roswell Park Cancer Institute  (Department of Biophysics)
Buffalo, NY 14263  |  ningluo@sun.acsu.buffalo.edu      (APARNET)
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From: CLU%YALEMED.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Subject:      SVC Resolution
Reply-To: CLU%YALEMED.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Thu, 30 Jul 1992 01:40:52 -0400
Comments: To: CHINA-NT@UGA.BITNET, ifcss@cscwam.umd.edu,
              council@venus.physics.emory.edu, agyxp@asuvm.inre.asu.edu,
              liu@cae.wisc.edu, luo@goshawk.LANL.GOV, v007wvf9@ubvms.BITNET

         IFCSS Supervisory Committee Resolution
                On Mr. Li, Jinghong's Appeal


Log No: S4003
Date: July 29, 1992


        This is an official response to the appeal from
Mr. Jinghong Li on the issue of the Presidency of IFCSS.

        Under the jurisdiction of the current version of
the Constitution of IFCSS, there is only one President of
IFCSS, who should be the one elected on the latest annual
Congress of IFCSS. The Presidency should be effective right
about adjourn of the Congress. The RESOLUTION-011 adopted
on the Fourth Congress of IFCSS by no means revised, or
surpassed the Constitution. Therefore, the President of
current term is Mr. Xiao Geng.
Newsgroups: talk.politics.china
From: "J. Gao" <gaojeng@durras.anu.edu.au>
Subject:      Re:  IFCSS HQ Special Report 4015: Working Committee Chairpersons
              Nominated
Reply-To: "J. Gao" <gaojeng@durras.anu.edu.au>
Organization: Indiana University
Date:         Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:40:32 EST
Comments: To: CHINA-NT@uga.cc.uga.edu

>         IFCSS Working Committee Chairpersons Nominated
>         ==============================================
>
>Dear IFCSS Members:
>
>     The following is a memo from IFCSS President Geng Xiao
>to IFCSS Council requesting Council's approval of the
>nominations of IFCSS Working Committee chairpersons.
>Comments should be directed to either the HQ or the Council
>or both.
>
>     Thanks for your attention.
>-----------------------------------------------------------
>IFCSS HQ Memo No.4003
>July 27, 1992
>
>To: IFCSS Council (Fourth Term)
>
>
>                       A  Message from
>                 Geng Xiao, President of IFCSS
>                          Nominating
>           Chairpersons of IFCSS Working Committees

            Awkward grammar.

>4.  Communicational Service Committee         Ding Jian

     Communications

>11. Theoretic Research Committee              Lin Changsheng

     This is not at all clear. :-)


Sorry, just in a picky mood. :-)

J. Gao
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