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From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: Why Anti-California?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 15:40:13 GMT
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In article <1992Nov19.084007.20902@reed.edu> orpheus@reed.edu (P. Hawthorne) writes:
>Other reasons include the flow of guns, bad drugs, and gangsters. A
>Portland cop tells me there are three or four drive-by shootings a day now.
>Rumor has it that Cali mobsters are getting a monopoly on pot, and probably
>other drugs as well, moving it from Mexico up to Oregon. A little birdie
>tells me that the bud is much lesser quality than the home grown.

I don't think Oregonians can avoid responsibility for drugs either.
Oregon is one of the biggest pot-growing states around.  When you have a
floundering timber industry and vast expanses of public land on nice
south-facing hillsides with plenty of rain, not to cool, well...

Not to mention all the amphetamine production -- Oregon and Washington
have been notorious for that for years.

That's not to say that Californians might not be having an effect on
that, but Oregon has been a drug haven for years.

>There're the manners of Californian drivers, developers, land-purchasers,
>tourists, etc. to consider. Middle-class Californians can be fairly wealthy
>Oregonians, and arrogant ones at that. Nouveau riche burgois can be very
>bad ambassadors for any state.

Amen to that.

>I ought to clarify that the sentiment is against SoCal, really. Northern
>California has been spared for the most part. If they'd get on with dividing
>up the state, relations would greatly improve.

'pends on what you call "Northern California."  Having also lived in
what I consider REALLY northern California, there's not much difference between
that and the little southern Oregon towns either (eg, Yreka, Ft Jones, etc etc)
If you're talking about the Bay Area, well...


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From: pmontgom@math.orst.edu (Peter Montgomery)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Civil War game (was Re: King's Valley!!)
Date: 21 Nov 1992 21:09:16 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University Math Department
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In article <1eeu3qINNo2v@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> @prism.cs.orst.edu () writes:

>OSU Beaver football games, believe it or not.  Back in the early/mid
>80's during my undergrad days, the ushers at the games really didn't
>care much if you took alcohol into the stadium.  As long as it wasn't
>in bottles or cans.  The usual plan of action was to sit in the rain,
>drink heavily, and watch the beavs get stomped.

	It's 1 pm Nov 21, and the Civil War game is beginning at OSU.
I saw several fans walk past Kerr Library through the heavy rain.


-- 
        Peter L. Montgomery              Internet: pmontgom@math.orst.edu
        Dept. of Mathematics, Oregon State Univ, Corvallis, OR 97331-4605 USA
From: dzappala@caldera.usc.edu (Daniel Zappala)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: New thread
Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:05:03 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1992Nov18.021952.29473@leland.Stanford.EDU>, lloyd@leland.Stanford.EDU (William Koenig Lloyd) writes:
|> 
|> Hey... about Corvallis... you forgot Woodstock's Pizza!
|> 

Ah yes!!  And the Beanery...

Daniel
From: mcginnis-john@cs.yale.edu (mcginni)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: <<sigh>>
Date: 23 Nov 92 03:00:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Yale University


In article <1ep42hINN4e1@MINERVA.CIS.YALE.EDU> stansbury-travis@yale.edu (Travis Stansbury) writes:

> Well it's that time of year again - Thanksgiving...  I think that
> spending Thanksgiving away from friends and family in Oregon is one of
> the most depressing things possible.  I mean, I can just picture the
> scene at home: warm fire, family gathered around the table, food spread
> out .... and here I am eating my Ramen noodles.  Geez.  Oh well, soon
> enough I'll be back home - enjoying the mild winter of the Southern
> Oregon Coast... I can't wait!
> 

Hey, it could be worse...  I was born and raised in Oregon and still
consider it home.  However, we moved out here to New England during
my sophomore year.  So while I get to go home for thanksgiving and
enjoy turkey at home, I have to spend my three weeks of winter break
being cold and miserable in N.E. instead of wet and happy in Oregon.
Oh well.  If all goes well, I will find employment in Oregon and I
can once again live in the best damn state in the U.S.

Oh, and another cool thing about being from Oregon - my driver's
license always makes bouncers look twice - they don't see too many of
them out here...

- mcginni
-- 
--
John McGinnis				There's a feeling I get,
mcginnis-john@yale.edu			When I look to the West,
(203) 436-1504				And my spirit is crying for leaving.
From: stansbury-travis@yale.edu (Travis Stansbury)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: Reed College
Date: 23 Nov 1992 20:37:26 -0500
Organization: Yale University
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In article <1ernr4INN297@MACAW.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU> mcginnis-john@cs.yale.edu (mcginni) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov23.223010.11757@reed.edu> pbray@envy.reed.edu (Peter Bray) writes:
>
>> What other reedies read this?
>> Also, I think that only people with Oregon email addresses should be  
>> allowed to post here!!!
>> Go away all you wannabes!
>> Peter
>> 
Excuse me, who died and made you God?  I was born and raised in Oregon,
and the only reason I'm here in Connecticut is because I could not find
a comparable educational facility in Oregon.  I decided to sacrifice a
few years away so that I could get the best education possible, and
return to Oregon... an email address doesn't mean anything, as your post
obviously illustrates!  :-)


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From: wae@aero.org (William A. Emanuelsen)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: The Spruce Goose (was Re: Me be a oregoner)
Followup-To: alt.culture.oregon
Date: 19 Nov 1992 15:24:25 GMT
Organization: First and Ten, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: aerospace.aero.org

More trivia:

I was at a talk given by the guy who co-piloted on the Spruce Goose's
first and only flight.  He was a hydraulics engineer who didn't know
anything about piloting a plane.  Howard Hughes wanted it that way so
that no one could claim that he hadn't been the one flying the plane.

ObOregon:  So Oregon has a big wooden hangar, and a big wooden
airplane.  What other large, manmade objects are there?
-- 
William A. Emanuelsen    I degaussed my girlfriend and I'm
wae@aerospace.aero.org      just not attracted to her anymore.
From: nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: Me be a oregoner
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:53:03 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Nov18.003226.139@netcom.com> tomrice@netcom.com (Tom R. Rice) writes:
>Isn't that s'posed to be "Me be a Orygunner"?

I thought that was "I'm an OrygOnyun."

>-- 
>"Start off every day with a smile and get it over with."  --W.C.Fields
>Tom R. Rice   WB6BYH                   Holler Observatory - 
>tomrice@netcom.com                     Longitude:  121 d  30 m  20 s W 
>CIS: 71160,1122                        Latitude:    37 d  25 m  10 s N 


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The Earth Pig Bourne....

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From: elcranor@unix.amherst.edu (ERICH LEWTHWAITE CRANOR)
Subject: Re: New thread
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:54:22 GMT

: >I really miss the people from my hometown of Portland.
: >
: >Just out of curiosity, are there any native Oregonians out here in LA. 
: >Maybe we could get together and have a six-pack of Henry's.

	I stayed at school in MA over the summer so I've been away
from Portland a full year, and it's been the first time in 4 years at
school that I've started ot get really homesick.  I miss the beaches
much more than I would have guessed I would.  Henry's, Powell's, laser
shows, la Patisserie, Rimsky Korsicoffee (or however they spell it),
the Rhodedendron gardens (a strange one, since I haven't been in
years), and the gorge, among other things, are definitely missed.
Beaverton, I don't really miss very much at all.  (I'm specifically
from Glencullin, a tiny neighborhood between Hillsdale and Raleigh
Hills, unless one speaks of place of birth in which case I'm from
Eugene, blah blah blah)

	I'm kind of surprised at the relative dearth of
Portlanders--but I suppose that's a typical city prejudice.

	I heard, some time ago, about a fire in the gorge, how's it
looking these days?

	Oh yeah--Willamette Week was much better then the liberal rag
out here.

Erich Cranor
[home in a month and counting the days]
From: kurtg@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Allergies :-(
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:51:35 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

Someone mentioned allergies.  I forgot about that one.  I definitely
don't miss that.

The Wilamette Valley is the grass capitol of the world...

- Kurt

-- 
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Intelligent Technology Group                  Pittsburgh, PA 15241
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GENIE : K.GEISEL                      AIR   : NF3JTW
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numbered!" - The Prisoner
From: nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: New thread
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:02:02 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Nov17.232135.250@leland.Stanford.EDU> geddy@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Schaefer) writes:
>So here's a question:

>What do you miss most about the Beaver State?

Easy sightings of river otters, beavers, lynx, cougar, black bear,
red wing blackbirds, hawks, great blue herons, wood ducks, and stuff.

Also rain.

And privacy.

And being able to get a concealed weapons permit easily.

And people minding their own business.


-- 
The Earth Pig Bourne....

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nadja@weitek.com
From: stansbury-travis@yale.edu (Travis Stansbury)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: Help wanted.
Date: 17 Nov 1992 21:28:43 -0500
Organization: Yale University
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In article <1992Nov17.212652.9570@leland.Stanford.EDU> geddy@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Schaefer) writes:

>There's a good idea for this newsgroup!  Let's put together an FAQ for
>pronunciation of Oregon cities.  I cringe when I hear people 
>mis-pronounce Tigard.  (Correct: TIE-gard, Incorrect: tiggerd).
>
>Here's a start:
>Salem  SAY-lem
>Portland  PORT-lund.
>Eugene  you-GENE
>Oregon City  OR-uh-gun SIT-ee  (gun, not gone)
>Metzger  METZ-ger

Oh you can't forget the mother of all mispronounciations -

Willamette - will-am-it, (not willa-met-te)

I've grown used to people on the east coast mispronouncing Or-eee-gone
names, no one but natives and REALLY focused historians can seem to get
them down.  Oh well, the price of an east-coast education!


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From: malouf@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Rob Malouf)
Subject: Re: New thread
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:41:14 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.165611.457@netnews.synoptics.com> franks@synoptics.com writes:
>In article 29473@leland.Stanford.EDU, lloyd@leland.Stanford.EDU (William Koenig Lloyd) writes:
>And in a simular vein, is the Old World Center still there?

It's still there, but they have quit trying to make beer.  They still
have Blue Heron on tap, though...

Rob Malouf (another peripatetic Oregonian)
malouf@csli.stanford.edu


Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
From: franks@synoptics.com (Frank Stutzman)
Subject: Re: Woodstocks Pizza
Reply-To: franks@synoptics.com
Organization: Synoptics Inc. Santa Clara, California.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:08:31 GMT

In article 722203236@zmcipdec1, zrsuk01@zmcipdec1.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (U. Koch) writes:
>Nearly the same with me. That's one of the things I miss. But I miss
>Nearly Normal's a lot more...

Its gone?!?!  I remember when they were in their old place.  
Decidedly funky.  Their new place was just as funky but in a 
hippi-yuppie kinda way.  

First it was Nasty Noras in Eugene that disappeared and now 
Nearly Normals is gone.  Maybe I can't go back to Corvallis.

Whatever you do, don't tell me that Clodfelters is gone.  If it
is, I'd rather not know.

|Frank Stutzman                    | "Practice makes perfect,
|SynOptics Communcations, Inc.     |  perfect is a fault,
|Santa Clara, Ca                   |  and fault lines change"
|franks@synoptics.com              |             - REM

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From: berked@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Daniel Leon Berke)
Subject: (Damn) Californian heading north
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: alt.culture.oregon
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:11:54 GMT

I must confess that I am one of those damn Californians who wants to move to
Oregon... But I think I'm not as destructive as most Californians...
I've spent my four college years out here in Troy, NY (near Albany).  I grew
up in L.A. and (needless to say), up until about a year ago, though it was
the greatest place in the world.  Well, after watching the riots on TV (which
came really close to my house) and the big earthquakes last summer, I decided
I've had enough.  And after living here in upstate NY for 4 years, I've
developed an appreciation for many things... peace and quiet, clean air, 
green trees (not palms), etc, etc, etc.  Last summer I drove through Oregon
on my way home and, as my friends who were with me said, I was in "a different
state of mind".  I was really impressed with Portland - it proved to me that a city can be smaller than the huge LA/NYC/Chicago metropolises and still be a
good place to live (Albany, by comparison, is a small city but doesn't feel
like a place you can really do anything).  Plus, Portland has a lot of high-
tech companies which I what I need... and with jobs leaving LA in droves (and
I have NO interest in living in the Bay area) I think I found my future home.
My parents gave up on New York and moved to LA 25 years ago, I'll do the same
thing (hopefully).

So, can I get away with calling myself a New Yorker and not be hated by every-
one in Oregon?  Or does Oregon have a distaste for New Yorkers (as I believe
mostly everyone in LA does)?

Dan


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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 13:48:56 MST
From: earlyd@gecko.ee.byu.edu (David Early)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: Help wanted.


In article <1992Nov17.201418.26999@leland.Stanford.EDU>, hemiola@leland.Stanford.EDU (e. shen) writes:
>
>how please to pronounce the following word:
>
>
>                   TUALATIN
>
>
>e.
>
>ps:  Thank you!  I am not
>from Oregon, but Washington.


Try this

	TOO-WAL-LA-TON

And say it really fast.  The 'LA' is like
'Fa-la-la-la-la'

I'm from Lake Oswego

Dave Early
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
From: pradeep@bkd.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Pradeep Deshpande)
Subject: Re: Help wanted.
Reply-To: pradeep@bkd.b11.ingr.com
Organization: ISGS, Intergraph Corporation. Huntsville, AL-35894.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:22:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.172741.10132@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu>, stephas@dgp.toronto.edu (Tamara Stephas) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov17.201418.26999@leland.Stanford.EDU> 

|> Hey, anywhere in the Pacific Northwest looks like Heaven to me from here.
|> It's so flat here in the East I get acrophobia if I stray from the 
|> comforting heights of the downtown buildings.  (Okay, so I exaggerate a 
|> *little* -- but not much! :-)

	You might be. But from down here you couldn't exagerate. It's been
two and half years since I left Beaverton. My heart's still among the cascades.

	Talking of the phobia of Californians among Oregonians anyone remember 
Tom Mcall and his plans to put the board "Come Visit, Enjoy and then Go back" on 
I5 at the California border. 

	Talking of Oregon, I had hope to see Les Aucoin win. But, may be next time.

	One of the fun things I do is correct people when they pronounce
Oregon is 'Oregone'. You should see the look in thier eyes as to who is correcting
them. 


|> By the way, I think this is a great group!

	I used to read the group alt.fan.tom.peterson. It was fun for a while.

|> - Tamara

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From: coleman@rocky.cs.ucla.edu (Mike Coleman)
Subject: Influx of Californians?  Gee--what a surprise!
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 11:13:47 GMT

I don't see why everyone is so surprised that neighboring states are
experiencing a sizeable influx of Californians--what would you expect?
Wyomingans?  

California is the most populous state in the nation, and much larger than its
neighbors.  If you assume that CAers move out of state as much as everyone
else, then naturally surrounding states will see a large inflow.

-- 
--Mike Coleman (coleman@cs.ucla.edu), Lord High Executioner of Anhedonia-----
   Illicit drugs are like Nancy Reagan's crotch.  Party safe--Just Say No!
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From: aroe@jarthur.claremont.edu (Lumiere)
Subject: Re: Let's here it for MICRO BREWS!!! 
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:08:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.041914.14981@leland.Stanford.EDU> lloyd@leland.Stanford.EDU (William Koenig Lloyd) writes:

>ooooohhh... Terminator Stout.  Now there's a beer that'll put hair on your
>chest.  There are around 25 of their bars around Oregon, and one of 'em in
>Eugene was across the street from my apartment.  Probably wasn't too conducive
>to my studying.  Oh well, at least it was fun.

*sigh* TO be back up north where I could just walk on over the the
nearest McMenamin's (have I been gone so long that I can't remember how to
spell that?  Sheesh).  I've become so disillusioned with SoCal and the (lack
of) microbrews that I've resorted to brewing my own.  But I have no fear,
for the Christmas season (and my plane ticket home) will be fast approaching.

--> andy
From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: New thread
Date: 18 Nov 1992 06:06:59 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
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In article <1992Nov17.232135.250@leland.Stanford.EDU> geddy@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Schaefer) writes:
>What do you miss most about the Beaver State?
>
>For me, it's the relative lack of traffic.  Portland is, of course, much
>busier than it once was, but driving there is a breeze relative to driving
>in California.

1. Mountains over 500' high are nice. ;)
2. Rivers where the fish swim, they don't float, downstream (like in
   Michigan -- blech!)


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From: benner@hydra.unm.edu (John Benner)
Subject: California Vermin
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:30:32 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

The Anti-Californian sentiment is very apparent here in New Mexico as
well, although not as strong as in Oregon. We are getting an influx of
the vermin here and in Colorado too.

John Benner **************** Native Oregonian
Department of Mechanical Engineering
University of New Mexico
Albuquerque, NM
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
From: lduncan@bnr.ca (Lee Duncan)
Subject: Re: King's Valley!!
Reply-To: lduncan@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR Inc. -- RTP, NC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:00:32 GMT


Wow, it's great to hear that name again.

One of my favorite swimming holes in the Universe (yes, I've been to alot)
is in King's Valley.  A really scarey rope swing that made me really
feel alive!

As far as the attraction, none if you don't care for the epitomy of
unspoiled rustic beauty (;-).

I miss Mary's Peak: what a view, for just a 30-minute driver, you could
see for literally 100 miles (even counting the smog - yes, unfortunately,
they have it here too).

Oops, I forgot.  No, Kings Valley, and the rest of Oregon for that matter,
are ugly, and not worth visiting (yeah Tom McCall!).  So, don't even
think about visiting!

Corvallis Native and OSU Grad -- Anyone know of work back there??!
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Within BNR: ESN 294-7079			Email: lduncan@brtph136

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    Love is the answer.		-- Dan Millman, "Way of the Peaceful Warrior"

    I don't care what you do,
    I wouldn't want to be like you	-- Alan Parsons Project

I don't speak for BNR -- I haven't found the form to register for that yet
From: pauls@css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.oregon
Subject: Re: Rogue Valley...
Date: 21 Nov 1992 23:47:27 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan ITD Consulting and Support Services
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Keywords: Medford, Ashland, Central Point, Rogue Valley
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In article <1992Nov21.024058.16200@nevada.edu> lockheed@nevada.edu (STEVE KIRK) writes:
>The Big Question of the day...
>
>Any hail from the Rogue Valley??  
>Medford/Ashland/Grants Pass
>Talent/Phoenix/Jacksonville/Eagle Pt/Central Pt./White City/Gold Hill/etc

Ashland.

>I don't believe that SOSC has an internet link (that's a shame) so I don't
>'spose I'll find any posts FROM the valley, but it'd still be interesting
>to see who all out there in big-bad net-land recalls...
>Pappy's Pizza?

with pizzazz, you mean?

Actually I think they have a new VAX, cuz my mother has an account on
it.  Previously most faculty had accounts on oregon.uoregon.edu with
a local dial-up.  The new one is sosc1.oshe.edu or something like that.


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