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From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Unofficial comments from Cambridge
Originator: riddle@aahsa.tic.com
X-Submissions: eff-austin@tic.com
Organization: none
Submitted-By: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:15:55 GMT

Max> == Max Cray <max@underg.uucp> 

 Max> I am not sure but I think all you get from National is the
 Max> newsletter that they send out,

There are actually three newsletters we send out:

EFFector (paper)
EFFector Online (bits)
@eff.org (member paper)

The first two will be sent to anyone, member or no, upon request.  The
latter, of course, is part of your membership.

 Max> and from the local EFF chapter you get nothing.

The CyberDawg didn't sound like "nothing" :)

 Max> I joined the local chapter of the EFF because I am interested in
 Max> the causes, such as computer literacy (especially network
 Max> litaracy), and the claiming, and preservation of our
 Max> constitutional rights with respect to cyberspace. I also
 Max> appreciate the way the EFF acts as an advocate for the people when
 Max> it comes to network issues in Washington, D.C. (we can't let the
 Max> military/industrial complex have all the fun...). These issues are
 Max> important to me, and I enjoy being associated with others who feel
 Max> the same way. I also hope that by my association with the EFF I
 Max> can do my part to help civilize cyberspace.

Thanks for the kind words.

Now, a few *unofficial* comments from Cambridge (I'll touch on Washington
also).  [How unofficial?  I'm a sysadmin; when was the last time you
knew of a sysadmin who could speak in an official capacity for an entire
organization?  Didn't think so.]

We *are* working on additional member/chapter services.  EFF/Austin has
made us *very* proud, and has been a big help in defining just how local
chapters relate to the national organization.  Cliff Figallo, our
Cambridge office director, will be starting soon (his computer's already
been set up :-) and one of his main tasks is to put forward chapter and
member stuff.

We *do* get austin.eff on our news machine here.  We're not going to
play evil lurking watchdogs or anything, we just figure we're on the
northeast side of town... a ways.  We got austin.* for Mike Godwin,
mostly...just like I get seattle.* for old times sake.  However, I read
it, and I'll comment now and then, as I am now--unofficially.

Washington is working pretty hard on both ISDN and the FBI Digital
Telephony wiretap proposal (pushing the first and pushing against the
latter).  If you have comments on stuff for them, mail eff@eff.org and
it'll be redirected as necessary.

Heck, any comments, post 'em to comp.org.eff.talk (now that we're on the
"real USENET"--hooray) and/or mail eff@eff.org.

--Chris
Christopher Davis * ckd@eff.org * System Administrator, EFF * +1 617 864 0665
            ``Ed Gruberman, you fail to grasp Ti Kwan Leep.
            Approach me that you might see.'' -- The Master


Newsgroups: austin.eff
From: bohrer@mcc.com (Bill Bohrer)
Subject: What's a "phreak"?
Originator: riddle@aahsa.tic.com
X-Submissions: eff-austin@tic.com
Organization: MCC, Austin, TX
Submitted-By: bohrer@mcc.com (Bill Bohrer)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:52:13 GMT

Oh yeah, and what's a "phreak"?  I correspond with some guys in CO who
label themselves such, and I saw that word again on this group
distinguishing "phreaks" from "hackers", the latter I'm familiar with.
-- 
*


Newsgroups: austin.eff
From: max@underg.uucp (Max Cray)
Subject: Re: Thanks
Originator: riddle@aahsa.tic.com
X-Submissions: eff-austin@tic.com
Organization: Underground Computing Foundation
Submitted-By: max@underg.uucp (Max Cray)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 05:58:22 GMT

uunet!tic.com!jsq (John Quarterman) writes:

> In article <1992Aug25.143541.18939@tic.com> root@fennec.sccsi.com (Scott Davi
> >I make the motion that we have a cyberdawg on a weekend at lease
> >once every 2 months. Any comment...?
> 
> Well, we have Cyberdawgs every two months, so that would be all of them.
> Depends on what people want, and what the organizer of a particular
> Cyberdawg is willing to do and can put together.

I vote yes to continue to hold them on the weekends if possible.



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Newsgroups: austin.eff
From: schuncke@cwis.unomaha.edu (John Schuncke)
Subject: Re: Infodisk, self extracting
Originator: riddle@aahsa.tic.com
X-Submissions: eff-austin@tic.com
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 02:23:26 GMT

max@underg.uucp (Max Cray) writes:

>bazooka@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bob Anderson) writes:

>> [comments about hidden surprises in self-extracting archives]

>Although pretty rare, this is actually a real threat. By carefully editing
>an archive one can create 'zip bombs' that crash your system, wipe your cmos,
>etc, at least on PC type machines. I do not know if this will work for other
>machines.

This brings up another interesting point: not all of us have MS-DOS boxes.
Since a self-extractor has to have executable code, and because said code
is inevitably machine-dependant, how many system executable formats are you
planning on supporting?

Yes, MS-DOS is damn-near universal (disgusting, but true); however, I like
my Amiga just fine, and although I can read/write 720K DOS diskettes, I
CANNOT execute an MS-DOS self-extractor.

So, if you're taking a vote, count me a "nay."

>                                          -= Max =-
			>JS<
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Newsgroups: austin.eff
From: jsq@tic.com (John Quarterman)
Subject: Re: questions about EFF
Originator: riddle@aahsa.tic.com
X-Submissions: eff-austin@tic.com
Organization: Texas Internet Consulting
Submitted-By: jsq@tic.com (John Quarterman)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 23:36:57 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.194125.4661@tic.com> rbp@netcom.com (Bob Pasker) writes:
>jsq@tic.com (John Quarterman) writes:
>
>>Cyberdawgs are traditionally open to anyone who walks in.  We're still
>>working out exactly what the membership fee does pay for.
>
>esp. since barlow & kapor have plenty of money to throw at their pet
>projects.

Huh?  If either of them are throwing money at us, it's news to me.
I was referring to EFF-Austin.  If you want to know what EFF national's
membership fee goes for, it would be best to ask them.  Mike Godwin
is following this newsgroup.  There is also the mail alias eff@eff.org
and the newsgroups comp.org.eff.talk and comp.org.eff.news.

John


Newsgroups: austin.eff
From: lindahl@arrisun3.uta.edu (Charlie Lindahl)
Subject: Congrats on Austin-EFF!!!  
Originator: riddle@aahsa.tic.com
X-Submissions: eff-austin@tic.com
Organization: Automation and Robotics Research Institute, U Texas @ Arlington
Submitted-By: lindahl@arrisun3.uta.edu (Charlie Lindahl)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 06:23:47 GMT

Congrats on Austin-EFF and the new newsgroup! (I just picked it up
today). 

I, too, am real interested in the EFF (I am ashamed to say that I've
not sent in my national dues yet; will do so this week!) Anyone know
of any attempt(s) to set up a chapter in Dallas/Fort Worth? 

Charlie
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Newsgroups: austin.eff
From: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Subject: Re: EFF-Austin's Legal Status
Originator: riddle@aahsa.tic.com
X-Submissions: eff-austin@tic.com
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation
Submitted-By: rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 13:45:54 GMT

	Congrats on your new non-profit status.

-- 
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Electronic Frontier Foundation   | 
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Cambridge, MA 02141 617-864-0665 | 


Newsgroups: austin.eff
From: riddle@tic.com (Prentiss Riddle)
Subject: Re: Moderating
Organization: Radio Free Szegerely
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 13:58:07 GMT

Scott Davis asks why austin.eff and the eff-austin list  are
moderated.  This was extensively discussed by mail before the creation
of the newsgroup, with lots of opinions pro and con, and I'd hate to
see us waste more bandwidth on it now.  As I understand it, the
decision was a consensus of the board of directors of EFF-Austin.
Here's what John Quarterman told me when I asked about guidelines
before I started:

   "Most of that we'd probably hope for you to work out as you go.
   However, I can say that one of the main reasons lots of people
   insisted on having a moderator is all the noise in
   comp.org.eff.talk; repetition, opinions passing as facts, ad hominem
   attacks, etc.  Another reason is that there are a few people who
   post to the local newsgroups here who will hold forth at great
   length, informing you of your own opinion as well as theirs.
   Reading austin.general and comp.org.eff.talk will give you a pretty
   good idea of what we don't want.  Nobody mentioned any specific good
   examples, so you'd probably have to cast about to see if there are
   any models you'd want to follow, or just develop it as seems
   appropriate from feedback from participants and the board.  The
   basic idea seems to be a discussion group, not a war zone."

So far in four days I've rejected only a body-less header and a couple
of redundant requests for membership forms which I answered by mail.
No doubt this is still the honeymoon. :-)  When you start seeing things
show up which you feel I should have rejected, please let me know
(preferably by mailing to riddle@tic.com rather than posting to the
whole list).

Scott also asks about delays introduced by moderation.  I'm going to
try to hold to daily moderation six days a week, twice daily when I
feel like it.  When I'm away from the net, jsq@tic.com and
smoot@tic.com can take over my duties if they want to, so if you notice
an unacceptable delay then rattle their cages.  Also, in emergencies
remember that the eff-austin-directors@tic.com mailing list is
unmoderated.

-- Prentiss Riddle ("aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada") riddle@tic.com
-- Moderator of austin.eff / Another happy guest at Three Initial Corp.
Newsgroups: austin.eff
From: jsq@tic.com (John Quarterman)
Subject: Re:  Infodisk
Originator: riddle@aahsa.tic.com
X-Submissions: eff-austin@tic.com
Organization: Texas Internet Consulting
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:05:47 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.215423.24921@tic.com> rita@eff.org (Rita Marie Rouvalis) writes:
>	Could someone send one of those Infodisks up here for me to

You could also FTP it from tic.com, as ~ftp/eff-austin/infodisk.1/*.


Newsgroups: austin.eff
From: riddle@tic.com (Prentiss Riddle)
Subject: "Raising NC-17 Networks in a G-Rated Society"
Summary: Re: Clinton campaign statement
Organization: Radio Free Szegerely
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 04:05:21 GMT

I seem to have caught some heat for my linkage of Tipper Gore with
censorship.  While I'm tempted to play Jello Biafra wannabe, I'd hate
to see this become alt.flame.tipper.  Besides, it might raise the
interesting possibility that as moderator I would feel called upon to
reject my own posts. :-)

Instead I'd like to return to some of the more central questions I was
trying to raise, which seem to have been sidetracked by my mention of
Tipper:

How is freedom of expression compatible with universal connectivity in
a society which espouses but does not uniformly provide freedom of
expression in other media?

Certain forms of expression which are not currently protected by law
(libel, copyright infringement, obscenity, threats) may become
protected by technological features of the emerging networked media,
which may include means of providing absolute anonymity or at least
unreliable means of authenticating the origin of a given item.  Is this
something we welcome, deplore, or feel we can live with?

How *do* we feel about unlimited access of minors to pornography (or
other "dangerous" ideas and information), something which universal
connectivity is likely to provide?  Can we imagine a technological
and/or social solution which allows for appropriate limitations on
minors' access to information without crippling the decentralized
nature of a network or infringing on the freedoms of the adults in the
crowd?

In the short term, what *can* Bill and Al do to promote widespread
networking without bringing down the wrath of the various elements who
want to ban flag burning, gag the arts and prosecute foul-mouthed
musicians?

-- Prentiss Riddle ("aprendiz de todo, maestro de nada") riddle@tic.com
-- Moderator of austin.eff / Another happy guest at Three Initial Corp.
Newsgroups: austin.eff
From: max@underg.uucp (Max Cray)
Subject: Re:  Infodisk, self extracting
Originator: riddle@aahsa.tic.com
X-Submissions: eff-austin@tic.com
Organization: Underground Computing Foundation
Submitted-By: max@underg.uucp (Max Cray)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 16:21:58 GMT

bazooka@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Bob Anderson) writes:

> I have a very strong dislike of self extracting archives.  
> 
> Not saying that Dave or Ed would hide a surprise in these but I'd rather not 
> see that as the way to go.
> 
> I'd much rather go with a two disk set if we need more space.

Although pretty rare, this is actually a real threat. By carefully editing
an archive one can create 'zip bombs' that crash your system, wipe your cmos,
etc, at least on PC type machines. I do not know if this will work for other
machines. However, I do not think it is worth worrying about (you have
written down your cmos settings somewhere haven't you?)

                                          -= Max =-


Newsgroups: austin.eff
From: polekat@tic.com (Ed Cavazos)
Subject: Re: questions about EFF Austin
Originator: riddle@aahsa.tic.com
X-Submissions: eff-austin@tic.com
Organization: Texas Internet Consulting
Submitted-By: polekat@tic.com (Ed Cavazos)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:03:59 GMT

David's explanation is a good one.  Another, more obvious, 
distinction is that EFF National is generally concerned with issues 
which are national in scope. While we at EFF-Austin are mindful 
of these things too, we also want to keep the more local (Austin 
and state) developments in mind.
 
Alot needs to be done at the local level that EFF-National won't 
have the resources to do -- hopefully we will.
 
Ed
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From: rcc@zycor.lgc.com (Randy Clarke)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: Honda mechanics recommendations
Date: 3 Sep 92 04:09:18 GMT
Organization: Landmark/Zycor   Austin, Texas


     Give Gilbert at Japanese Auto Specialists a call at 834-9040.  He runs
a shop off of Powell Ln just north of Lamar and 183.  He's not the fastest
or most organized, but he's honest, competent and reasonably priced.

     I've taken my car to him on several occasions; on a couple of trips to
see him, he actually recommended against unnecessary repairs.  Of the times
that he's repaired my vehicle (an '85 Prelude), I've been satisfied with the
results.

    Randy
From: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com (Dewey Coffman)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: Body shop recommendations needed for damaged Honda Civic
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:17:07 GMT
Reply-To: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Austin, TX. US of A.

In article <1992Aug28.151640.25657@chpc.utexas.edu>, noel@chpc.utexas.edu ((user name unknown)) writes:
|> Anyways, my car could do with some body work which presumably his insurance 
|> company is paying for.  Recommendations for good body shops will be appreciated.
|> I am not necessarily looking for cheap places.
|> 
|> 
	Travis @ Anderson Lane Body shop does a great job, he'll fight
	the insurance to get a new fender versus body putty, they're
	not fast, but very good.

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Newsgroups: austin.general
From: jeff@dsp.sps.mot.com (Jeff Enderwick)
Subject: buying furniture
Organization: Motorola DSP Compilers
Distribution: austin
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:30:56


Does anyone have any tips on buying furniture in this town, either
new or used?

	Jeff Enderwick
	jeff@dsp.sps.mot.com
From: lenny@icus.ICUS.COM (Lenny Tropiano)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: Body shop recommendations needed for damaged Honda Civic
Date: 29 Aug 92 13:19:50 GMT
Organization: ICUS Software Systems, Austin, Texas

In article <1992Aug28.151640.25657@chpc.utexas.edu> noel@chpc.utexas.edu 
writes:
[..]
>Anyways, my car could do with some body work which presumably his insurance 
>company is paying for.  Recommendations for good body shops will be appreciated

I was very pleased with Southwest Body and Paint, and they offer 100%
satisfaction, plus lifetime guarantee.  They are located on South Lamar
across from Town Lake (a lot closer to you than me, based on the "ut" e-mail 
address).  Their service was fast also.

Ask for Tony, he's the manager there and treated me very well.  They use
all original parts, in your case from Honda.

BTW:  Don't go to Dawn McDavid Acura's body shop... they suck.

-L.
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From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-lep.cts.com!robin@cactus.org (Robin Gustavson)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Medieval Weaponry
Date: 29 Aug 92 03:01:50 GMT
Organization: The Texas Leprechaun BBS, Austin, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


I would appreciate any information on the Renaissance Fair which I believe
will be held this October (?) and / or any information on individuals who
build, trade and practice with medieval edged weaponry (re: The Society for
Creative Anachronism).  Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
I-Net RGUSTAVSON@OCS.DIR.TEXAS.GOV or this net address.
_____

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Newsgroups: austin.general
From: amck@mcc.com (Alan McKendree)
Subject: Re: SF channel availability in Austin
Organization: MCC, Austin, TX
Distribution: austin
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:09:36 GMT

In article <78576@ut-emx.uucp> ifaq570@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Allen Kitchen) writes:
>

>channels (do we really need two?!).  Call your cable slime and demand this
>service.  While bandwidth is a problem, they are wasting part of it and should
>bow to public pressure.  How many people are demanding multiple shopping
>channels, do you think?
>
>My 2 cents worth...
>
>allen kitchen
>ifaq570@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
>
>

Gee, you must get great service with that attitude.  "Demanding"
service from people you call "slime" is just the way to get cheerful
cooperation from most of the people _I_ know, too!

God preserve me from ever trying to run a business where _I_ have to
listen to such mewling whining "demands".  You're probably beyond
hope, but for you other readers out there, think of this when you see
people agitating for laws requiring lower cable rates "in the name of
the consumer".  Slavery was abolished long ago, Mr. Kitchen.
From: dpaxton@ut-emx.uucp (Debi Paxton)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: Day care info
Keywords: Day care
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:29:22 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin; Austin, Texas

In article <1992Aug28.165959.5973@cactus.org> bagwell@cactus.org (David B. Bagwell) writes:
>I am currently searching for an Austin daycare center for my 2 year old
>son. Unfortunately, I'm totally uninformed about daycare. What should
>I look for or watch out for? What are reasonable rates? Hopefully I can
>find a daycare center in the UT area. Anyone have any recommendations?

The best daycare centers in central Austin are generally the ones run
by various churches in the UT area.  Unfortunately, they have long waiting
lists but they are worth waiting for, or worth switching to once your
name gets to the top of the list.  My son went to University Presbyterian
from 1981-1986, so my first-hand information is a little old, but they
still have an excellent rep.  We used St. Martins for one year only
(kindergarten) and I didn't care as much for their organization.  UPC 
was very much a child-centered organization, their teachers were
excellent, most of the aides were people who are education or pysch
majors at UT.  

What to look out for:  visit the school and insist on seeing actual
classes in the rooms and on the playground.  Do the teachers & aides
interact with the children or stand around talking to each other?
Do the kids actually get to PLAY on that lovely big playground or
do they stay inside because it's too hot or there are too many ants?
How long have they been in business?  How well educated are the staff?
A good daycare center will be organized to have the kids' best interests
in mind, not the teachers' or parents' convenience.  

.

-- 
"Never imitate consciously, but do not worry about being an imitator;
take pains instead to admire what is good."

Debi Paxton                             		dpaxton@emx.utexas.edu
From: adil@netmail.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: BMW repair shops
Date: 31 Aug 92 19:38:35 GMT
Reply-To: adil@netmail.austin.ibm.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM, Austin

Need references to good BMW repair shops that won't rip me off.


Adil K. Soofi
email: netmail@austin.ibm.com, adil@cactus.org
voice: (512) 823-9388
From: mbrown@testsys.austin.ibm.com (Mark Brown)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Tax Accts: SUMMARY
Date: 24 Aug 92 19:03:54 GMT
Organization: IBM Corp., Austin TX.

Here is a summary of all the recommendations received for tax accouting
services in Austin....

> Janet Hagy of Hagy & Associates

>         Jay Doyle C.P.A.
        7320 North MOPAC, Suite 307
        Austin, Tx
        (512) 338-1376

> Robert Young, CPA. 328-6140

> Rozanne Lachowsky at Lachowsky and Co.


Thanks to all those who sent in replies....

cheers,
mark
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