HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Inderal
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:12:15 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Distribution: sci.med
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <NAKAGAWA.92Sep29121107@minko.hyg.med.kyoto-u.ac.jp> nakagawa@minko.hyg.med.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Shin-ichi Nakagawa) writes:
>  
>Inderal is one of  catecholamine beta receptor  blocking agents , that 
>would make your heart rate and heart contractivities decrease . Because
>your migraine seems due to hypertension . 
>

Migraine due to hypertension?  Did I miss something?  Migraines
aren't usually due to hypertension.  Beta blockers work directly
against migraine without reference to blood pressure.

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From: CXKPV@ASUACAD.BITNET
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: "Problem Patient"
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:16:35 GMT
 <1992Oct1.235834.19874@athena.cs.uga.edu> <16724@pitt.UUCP>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Arizona State University

Sure, patients with what are deemed "psycosomatic" illness can and may be on a
state funed health care programs and waste millions of dollars; but the real w
aste of money occurs when the ordinary person must pay for inept and inadequate
physicians.  For example, suppose someone with a so called psycosomatic
illness goes to numerous different doctors in search of a cure for his problem.
If it takes ten him ten doctors to finally figure out what is wrong with h
im, the patient is not the one "wasting" money, it is the status quoe (do the m
inimun to get by, first 9 doctors) who are truly responsible for the wasted mon
ey.
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From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: Re: SHINGLES
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:41:50 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.153128.1@stsci.edu> mryan@stsci.edu writes:
>> 
>> More circumstantial evidence on the connection between shingles and chicken
>> pox...
>> 
>> My husband's one and only attack of shingles occurred immediately after our 
>> 2-year-old son had chicken pox.  Our MD also said this was a coincidence.
>
>My mother took care of my two kids when they had chicken pox.  She, too,
>suffered a painful case of shingles immediately afterward.  
>
>Now where did the name "shingles" come from?  It makes the disease sound
>silly and trivial when it is really very painful.
>

According to my dictionary, the name 'shingles' derives from
'cingulus', a Latin word meaning 'belt'.  Apparently some cases
partially or completely encircle the torso like a belt.  The
other name for shingles is 'herpes zoster', and zoster is Latin
for 'girdle'.  

Here's another condition with a silly-sounding name: pinkeye.
I got it from my infant daughter, who didn't seem to be suffering
much.  For me, it was fairly miserable.


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From: mdkline@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Mark D. Kline)
Subject: Re: Antidepressant Drugs:  Zoloft?
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 09:10:30 EDT

In article <1992Oct6.022646.16768@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Daniel.Jack.Blumenfeld@dartmouth.edu (Daniel Jack Blumenfeld) writes:
>
>I'm looking for clinical-trial information on the new antidepressant
>drug Zoloft (sp?).  I am not sure what phamaceutical company developed the
>drug, and whether it is still in the clinical trial stage or has recently
>been approved by the FDA... it's not in the 1992 PDR.  Medical journal
>references would be helpful (I've already searched MEDLINE 
without any success).


Zoloft (sertraline - Pfizer Inc) has been FDA approved for the
treatment of depression; the drug was introduced to the US market last
February.  Several large scale studies have been done; double blind
acute treatment, comparative, relapse prevention, and others.  Search
Medline for sertraline.  There was a recent supplement to the Journal
of Clinical Psychiatry devoted to the drug in the last year or two, I
believe.


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From: jod@equator.com (John Setel O'Donnell)
Subject: Re: Cost Concerns in Med School?
Organization: Equator Technologies, Inc., Seattle, WA
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 06:51:12 GMT

In article <PHR.92Sep24222137@napa.telebit.com> phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:
>In article <auwen.717281878@convex.convex.com> auwen@convex.com (John David Auwen) writes:
>
>   For example, the procedure involves clamping the tube the gall bladder
>   is attached to with titanium clamps.  The tube is clamped in 2 places
>   and then cut between the 2 clamps.  The plastic device that is used
>   to insert the clamp is used once and then thrown away.  It's price:
>   $735.00!   And they used 2 of them (1 for each clamp).  
>   ...
>
>   Would anyone who knows more about this care to comment on why these
>   disposable tools are so expensive?
>
>They are made by the same company that makes the $5k toilet seats
>for the air force.

There's a sense in which your answer is correct: in neither case is
there great emphasis on total-process cost control by the immediate
customer for the product.

An aside with no relevance to sci.med: A few years ago I had lunch
with a guy who, it turned out, ran a small company that among other
things made "$50 hammers for the military."  He told me a story about
making seat brackets for B-52s.  They were phenomenally expensive
because the specifications were the original 1950's specifications,
calling for a specific steel alloy no longer in commercial production.
In order to fulfill the order for 40 brackets, he had to find a steel
mill willing to do a custom melt for him; then roll just enough for
his order and "re-melt the rest."  His margin on the job was about the
same as he got on commercial work, but the cost was phenomenally
higher because nobody had been doing continuing engineering.

Sigh.  Our money at work.
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Equator Technologies, Inc.                206-328-6544 voice/fax
Seattle, WA                               Read everything by Alice Miller.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Subject: Re: Giving Blood! "Gimme that thing, I'll do it myself"
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 23:52:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct06.203246.75217@watson.ibm.com> yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) writes:
>Has anyone else run into the following situation:
>
>You need to give blood for a blood test and the nurse looks at
>your arms and says you have small veins.  Then, the nurse proceeds
>to stick your arm and miss the vein.  The nurse then complains that 
>you have rolling veins.  The nurse switches to the other arm and
>sticks and misses again saying that the vein is deeper than it appears.
>
>The nurse then calls in an expert for help.  The expert has no 
>problem drawing the blood.
>
>I suspect that this is not a commonplace occurrence.  
>
>And why is that nurses always seem to blame me when they miss the vein?  
>Sometimes, I get the urge to say, "Here! Gimme that thing! I'll do it myself!"

Yes, this has happened to me.  I was hospitalized for that unpleasant
side-effect of pregnancy, hyperemesis.  I was hurling everything,
even water.  By the time I was hospitalized, I was fairly dehydrated
so the IV was the first order of business.  Nursie stabbed me I
don't know how many times while I lay, wan and miserable, on the bed.
She blamed me, said I moved (nonsense).  The expert came in, and she
was better but still having trouble.  Finally she stuck it in my
elbow, which is not the best place for an IV (they have to strap your
arm to a board).

Still, this is not such a bad experience.  People who are really ill,
and especially small children, will have much sorrier IV tales to tell.

P.S.  I still blame our litigious culture for the fact that I had
to be hospitalized at all.  No anti-nausea drugs were available for
me on an outpatient basis because of all the hysteria surrounding
bendectin, etc.
From: Daniel.Jack.Blumenfeld@dartmouth.edu (Daniel Jack Blumenfeld)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: NATURAL ANTI-cancer Remedies
Date: 6 Oct 92 02:40:03 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Actually, many potent chemotherapeudic agents, such as vincristine,
vinblastine, and colchicine, are derived from NATURAL sources (or, at
least, that's where they were originally extracted from).  I believe
that the three that I mentioned are anti-mitotic agents which affect
spindle (microtubule) formation during mitosis.  There's lots of 
compounds out there which are quite "natural" and also quite toxic.

Dan Blumenfeld
Dartmouth Medical School
From: turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Put up or shut up  (was: alternative medicine newsgroup)
Date: 6 Oct 1992 11:01:36 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
Summary: Robert Greenstein shut up, and now he's back.

-*----
In article <1992Oct5.205204.5875@island.COM> green@island.COM (Robert Greenstein) writes:
> ... You say "alternative" medicine isn't science, but I have
> posted on more than one occasion about the scientific
> inquiry into Oriental medicine, but you ignore it. Why? 
> Because it doesn't fit your model. ...

Bullshit.

Your posts were not ignored.  Both Gordon Banks and I asked you
some very basic questions about the subjects on which you posted.
The questions I remember included:

  o  How does one measure qi?

  o  What basic experiments show its existence and behavior?

  o  For what phenomena does traditional Chinese medical theory
     provide a better explanation than current western medicine?

You ignored these questions.  That is where the dialogue stopped.

> Anyway, I welcome more scientific inquiry into Chinese medicine.

So would I.  The ball has been in your court for some months now.
You're the one who has read about traditional Chinese medical
theory.  Please proceed.

> If conventional medicine really is the greatest thing since sliced bread,
> then it can withstand the occasional post from crackpots like myself,
> blathering on about adventures with qi or questioning the value of some
> conventional treatment.

Western medicine has benefitted greatly from people who explore
strange avenues and who question the value of conventional
treatments.  The problem with crackpots is that they want to be
one of these contributors, but they cannot follow through.

Russell
From: nyeda@cnsvax.uwec.edu (David A. Nye MD)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Patients rights to med. records - long
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:11:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: cnsvax.1992Oct6.141115.1548
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

In article <3878@unisql.UUCP>, collene@unisql.UUCP (Collene Pearce) writes:
> 
> In my opinion, doctors will not accept phone requests for records release
> (to the patient, to be sent to home addresss), because they think that if 
> they "make" them write and send a certified letter, that the patient will
> think that is too much trouble and just drop it.  And, unfortunately, this

In most states there are strict laws governing who has access to
your records.  We can send them to another physician involved in
your care without asking, but we can't even talk to a spouse about
your case without your permission.  We have had instances in my
office of employers or their secretaries calling in, posing as
family members, to try to get information on a patient against their
their wishes.

Your physician should however be willing to send your records to
your home address if you request them by telephone if he can be
certain the address is yours, but he is entitled to charge a
copying fee.  If he is not willing to do this or the fee is
exhorbitant, call the State Medical Society and complain.
From: frankk@canada.sun.com (Frank Kannemann)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Copy of A.D.D. FAQ?
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:43:13 GMT
Reply-To: sun@bcars6a2.bnrottawa
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.


Hi,

I tried emailing tbachman@hamline.edu for a copy but mail bounced. Could someone
post or email the A.D.D. FAQ.

TIA

Frank

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                           955 Green Valley Cres
                           Ottawa, Ontario Canada
frankk@Canada.sun.com      #include <disclaimer.h>

This posting represents neither Sun Microsystems or BNR. 
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From: mdkline@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Mark D. Kline)
Subject: Re: Drug Misuse (WAS: Re: Children of smokers)
Keywords: genetic predisposition; similar neuropharmacological findings
Organization: Syracuse University
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 15:41:21 EDT

In article <1992Sep25.215035.1@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz> macridis_g@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Gerry Macridis) writes:
>In article <1992Sep23.195327.25615@newstand.syr.edu>,
>mdkline@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Mark D. Kline) writes:
>
>> A good article in this week's New England Journal of Medicine 
>> presents data from a large scale twin study that suggests there
>> are moderete genetic influences at work in the tendency to begin
>> smoking and/or become addicted to nicotine.   Unfortunately, this
>> means that children of smokers may be at a higher risk to become
>> addicted smokers themselves, (whether or not they are smart),
>> just like the children of alcoholics may be at a higher risk
>> for alcoholism, on a genetic basis.  [...]
>
>Is there any literature that suggests that this genetic influence may
>not be confined to misuse of nicotine and alcohol (i.e., that it may be
>present in drug misuse in general)?

There is some epidemiologic evidence to suggest that people with
certain anxiety and mood disorders may be at higher risk of subtance
abuse.  Some anxiety and mood disorders are heritable.  This may
represent an intervening variable of sorts.


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From: john@spss.com (John Przyborowski)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Can somone just get over hayfever on their own?
Date: 29 Sep 92 13:52:23 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SPSS Inc.

You know, Krista, that is really bizarre!  I've been off of antihistamines
for 9 days now and have been pigging out.  I was taking a combo of Seldane
and pseudephirine daily for almost two months (I shudder at the liver damage).
Anyway, my allergies had been severe throughout my teens then waned during
college.  This year (I'm 24) they came back with a fury--worst year I can
remember--total discomfort.

john
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: russ@wpg.com (Russell Lawrence)
Subject: Re: Patients rights to copies of medical records
Organization: WP Group
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:27:52 GMT

Chris DelPrete writes:
cp> Does a patient have a right to read his or her medical records?

From article <1992Oct1.032710.24107@wolves.uucp>, by wolfe@wolves.uucp (G. Wolfe Woodbury):
gww> No, the record is the *property* of the 
gww> physican/clinic/institution and they have the right to determine 
gww> the policy of who gets to read the records unsupervised.  

The last time I checked the data (three years ago) exactly 25 
states had laws that guaranteed unequivocal patient access to a 
doctor's records;  29 states had laws guaranteeing unequivocal 
access to hospital records;  and 16 states had laws guaranteeing 
unequivocal access to mental health records.  I'm sure the lists
have grown since then.

cp> The reason I ask is that my doctor told me that by law, they do 
cp> not have to give me a copy of my medical records.  Frankly, I 
cp> think this sucks.  

gww> They do not have to give *you* a copy of your medical records, 
gww> but....  they generally *must* give copies (at a reasonable fee) 
gww> to other authorized persons who have a legitimate interest.  

To the best of my knowledge, the practices that you're describing 
here aren't the embodiment of any statutory regulation, but are 
the result of local "policies" (sop).  Even in states that still 
don't guarantee access, it's a simple procedure to mutter the 
magic word, "attorney", and get your records immediately.  This 
kind of magic works by using open intimidation to combat covert 
intimidation, not because the image of an attorney satisfies some 
sort of legal requirement.  In the part of New England where I 
used to live, you'd get the same result if you happened to 
mention that you had an Uncle named "Rocco" who ran a firm 
specializing in the distribution of restaurant linen.  

gww> G. Wolfe Woodbury @ The Wolves Den UNIX, Durham NC  
                                                     ^^
Ah yes.  North Carolina was one of those states that had no laws 
guaranteeing access rights to records.

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From:  pat@office.relcom.msk.su (Pataraia A.D.)
Subject: REQUEST FOR ECFMG E-MAIL
Reply-To: pat@office.relcom.msk.su
Organization: RELCOM AG
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 92 01:54:59 +0300 

 Could anyone give me E-mail address
of Educational Commission for Foreign Medical
Graduates( ECFMG ) ? I have mailed them several
times, but there was no response.
Your help would be greately appreciated.

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  E-mail:pat@office.relcom.msk.su
  .: (095-)198-9510,(095-)943-4735
From: mrl@nerus.pfc.mit.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: RE: Chest pain
Date: 3 Oct 92 14:28:41 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER

In a previous article, georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) wrote:
>>
>>It sounds very much like costal-chondritis (spelling?), or inflammation of the
>>rib joints.  This can be confirmed by an orthopedic doctor.  There usually is a
> 
>Sixty-nine percent of people with a tender spot on the front sides of
>their chest wall suffer from Tietze's syndrome, a pain in the rib joints.
>At least that's what Archives of Physical Medicine and Rehabilitation
>said in February 1992.
> 
>Maybe "costal-chondritis" and Tietze's syndrome are the same thing?
>I sure don't know.

Yes, it is.

Mark
From: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: low thyroid levels, but not hypothyroid
Date: 3 Oct 92 12:35:52 GMT
Reply-To: km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

In article <shahn-011092181914@134.174.81.95> shahn@hstbme.mit.edu (Samuel Hahn) writes:
>In article <1992Oct01.024901.0902721@locus.com>, yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz)
>wrote:
-- 
-- Gordon Banks writes:
-- 
-- Surely it's possible that the hypothalmus (part of the brain) that's
-- ultimately responsible for the Thyroid Stimulating Hormone (TSH) is
-- capable of underproducing the hormone, isn't it?
-- 
-- I know this is an area of controversy and I don't have an opinion
-- on it myself, but is there some reason it's safe to assume that the
-- TSH level is always correct?  Or is it that it's correct the great
-- majority of the time?

PLEASE BE CAREFUL WHEN YOU EDIT TEXT FROM OTHER ARTICLES!
GORDON BANKS DID NOT WRITE THE ABOVE PARAGRAPHS - BOB YAZZ DID.
WHILE IT MAY BECOME APPARENT FROM COUNTING THE ARROWS AS 
TO WHO SAID WHAT, AT FIRST GLANCE, THE ABOVE MAKES IT LOOK LIKE
GORDON IS THE ONE QUESTIONING TSH TESTS.

 -km
From: mdf0@GTE.com (Mark Feblowitz)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Cats and itching
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:59:00 GMT
Reply-To: mfeblowitz@gte.com
Organization: GTE Laboratories Inc.
In-reply-to: yozzo@watson.ibm.com's message of 30 Sep 92 14:21:13 GMT

Two of our dogs had allergic eczema (boy, our family has had more than
its share of allergy problems!), which kicked up especially when grass
was pollenating. We used a hydrocortisone ointment prescribed by our
vet to treat them. I don't know if cats can have a similar problem.
(Maybe they're allergic to people dander!)

We were also told to increase the oil content in our animals' diet to
help keep their skin from being too dry, and given a specific
veterinary product to pour over their regular food.
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From: ray@philmtl.philips.ca (Ray Dunn)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Inderal
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:32:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: philmtl.1992Oct1.173203.9520
Organization: On the Brew.

In referenced article, nakagawa@minko.hyg.med.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Shin-ichi Nakagawa) writes:
>I am a cardiologist in Japan.
>  
>Inderal is one of  catecholamine beta receptor  blocking agents , that 
>would make your heart rate and heart contractivities decrease . Because
>your migraine seems due to hypertension . 

Is this correct?  I've never read of any connection between migraine and
hypertension.  Is blood pressure reduction the reason why beta-blockers
prevent migraine?

I've been a migraine sufferer all my life except for the last five years
while I've been taking a low daily dose of Sectral.  This was certainly
prescribed after a CABP as a protection against transient high blood
pressure [can you guess my personality type?  (:-)], but I assumed the
migraine prevention was a separate effect - certainly a good one!
-- 
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From: emilio@acupain.UUCP (Elizabeth Milio)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Lung Cancer in pet dog
Keywords: don't worry about contagion
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:38:30 GMT
Reply-To: emilio@accurate.com.UUCP (Elizabeth Milio)
Organization: ACCURATE Information Systems, Eatontown, NJ

In article <BvEJrE.Brq@world.std.com> rsilver@world.std.com (Richard Silver) writes:

   Our dog, which we have had for 11 years, has just been diagnosed with a
   carcinoma in her lung. It is the size of an orange. It may be inoperable.

   Should I be at all concerned with contagion in my family. The vet poo-poos my
   query but it is a nagging issue in my mind. What do others think? Am I being
   silly?

I am sorry to learn about your pet.  I know it is a difficult time for you.

Even tho I am not a doctore --

Contagion is not the issue.  If any of your family members are smokers, then
this can be a case of a non-smoker or secondary smoke cancer.

Several members of my family were smokers (some were heavy smokers) -- during
that time we lost at least 1 dog to lung cancer...since then two of the smokers
and one non-smoker human have died of cancer.  Another has had part of his 
lung removed.

If no one in your family smokes, then don't worry -- cancer is not caught!
From: thom@navaho.uucp (25663-dudis)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Chest pain
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:50:28 GMT
Reply-To: thom@navaho.UUCP (25663-dudis,joseph r)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ


I had something similar to this one summer.  I had been carrying very
heavy bags around and lifting them up and down a lot and it was theorized at
by the MDs I saw that I pulled/strained cartilage, connective tissue, etc,
in the area of the sternum....and where the ribs connect.

The pain was stabbing and excruciating, and it came and went, and I was
terrified.

They also said that people get a sort of cold or virus in their muscles...


PLEASE see a competent doctor who will DO something for you--this is not
not normal for a 27-yr-old female...I was only 30 when I had these pains.

Good luck

Lynne Thompson
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