From: Harvey.Smith@p0.f1.n7002.z8.FIDONET.ORG (Harvey Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.messianic
Subject: 2 Passover/Easter
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:48:32 GMT
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 DD=>expression of these things, what bothers me is their ignorance of 
 DD=>the
 DD=>feasts.  (Although the original separation from all Jewish 
 DD=>context is
 DD=>bothersome to me....and perhaps there would not be such a chasm 
 DD=>between
 DD=>the ways Jewish and Gentile believers observe these things IF 
 DD=>there had
 DD=>not been the "Replacement" concept in the first place.)

It doesn't bother me at all Donna.  For one, We do fight against replacement 
theology, for it is for sure the doctrine that has caused our people such 
hardships.  However, within the Evangelical movement, that was not a cause 
for alarm.  Within the Charismatic ranks it is now finding itself a new 
champion, which much be debunked as well.

 DD=>    You seem to be saying that you see the feasts as only 
 DD=>involving
 DD=>Jews.  Even though there is no SCRIPTURAL basis for the rejection 
 DD=>of the
 DD=>appointed feasts of the L-rd.  My perspective is that if there
 
I don't understand your question here or statement.  The Biblical feasts 
were given to Israel as perpetual feasts...  To the Church there is no 
admonition except where a person desires to do so or desires to learn more.

During the Milenial kingdom, the feasts will be back in full force and 
power, so then the entire world will keep the feasts...


DD=>had not been an effort to wipe out all Jewish aspects of 
 DD=>Christianity
 DD=>then MJs would not be fighting now for the "right" to observe 
 DD=>these
 DD=>things in a Jewish context; Christianity wouldn't seem like such 
 DD=>a
I don't think we are fighting for the right to keep the biblical holidays, 
as that is our calling.  We do attempt however to explain, and teach their 
significances to the entire body of Messiah.

We really don't need more enemies but allies.  If we always are wearing our 
feelings on our sleeves it makes for enemies and not helpers.  (grin)

 DD=>alien, idolatrous religion in the eyes of Jews; and Gentiles 
 DD=>would see
 DD=>the continuity that exists throughout the scripture and between 
 DD=>the
 DD=>faiths.

Welll, i don't think we will ever see the above change.  Gentiles act like 
gentiles because they are.  Jews act like Jews because they are... Its 
difficult to place Jewish intellect within a non Jew and vica versa... 
(grin). Not a put down Donna, just our way of expressing ourselves.

 DD=>    My point is not that Gentile Christianity must change its
 DD=>observance, but that it should cease to be ignorant of the 
 DD=>biblical
 DD=>Passover...and how it CAN relate to the biblical Passover without 
 DD=>ANY
 DD=>danger of undermining what Yeshua has done.

Good for that is exactly what we have proposed, are proposing and continue 
to teach and practice.  Thats why you have the knowledge that you have for 
we have preservered...

 DD=>    Last but not least, there ARE types and shadows to be seen in 
 DD=>the
 DD=>Feasts....and I fully believe of the Fall feasts, those are 
 DD=>prophetic--
 DD=>to be fulfilled.

The feasts are highly prophetic.  The fall feasts will be fulfilled. I was 
hoping to go up in the rapture yesterday, but alas, our Shofar did sound, 
but the great shofar of Messiah did not... 


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