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From: kevin@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Kevin Ernst Duckworth)
Subject: Data may look like a human...
Keywords: Vulcans in StarFleet.
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 10:48:14 GMT

In article <C186w0.GB1@cs.dal.ca> lazarus@ug.cs.dal.ca (Chuck Turner) writes:
>PS:  You'll note that the Enterprise has no non-humans in the command 
>     structure (although we hardly ever see the members of the other
>     watches).  I think the Vulcan captain in the DS9 pilot was the 
>     first example of this that I've seen, although I'm frequently wrong. 
>

Hmmm...I think you are mistaken here...Mr. Data is not human at all,
and he is third in command!!  I'm not exactly sure how the rest of the
chain goes, but I'm pretty sure that Geordi is fourth, and then there
is Worf, who is Klingon!  If you include Deanna in the lineup, that
makes 3 out of 6 command officers non-human.
     In addition, I believe that the Stargazer crew was very mixed,
according to my hazy recollection of "Reunion" (the novel) and the
episode "The Battle"...
     no flamage inteneded whatsoever!  Just trying to show that while
somewhat humanocentric, they're not exclusionary.  And noone better
From: skeeter@skatter.usask.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Leonard Nimoy on The Simpsons
Date: 21 Jan 1993 17:06:56 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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From article <mwalker-200193112144@mwalker.npd.provo.novell.com>, by mwalker@novell.com (Mel Walker):
>> msaletni@jade.tufts.edu (Michael J. Saletnik) writes:
>> > I'm shocked.  Not one message on all r.a.s.* about Leonard Nimoy's
>> > "cameo" on the Simpsons last night (1/15/93).  I was laughing my head
> Nimoy's appearance turned this into my favorite OFF of the season. Homer
> meeting God is one thing, but it just can't compare. :-)
> "Does anyone want to change seats?"

IMHO mode ON:

Am I the only one who thought that Nimoy's Cameo was wasted?  Sure there were
a few good LINES, but it wasn't that funny an EPISODE.  It would have been
a below average episode if Nimoy's lines were in it.

IMHO mode OFF:

and, um, what does "OFF" stand for?


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From: bmcgowan@alias.com (BJ MacGowan)
Subject: Re: Stewart's/Picard's accent
Organization: Alias Research Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:59:00 GMT

In article <MOCM.93Jan27152412@sun7.thp.uni-koeln.de> mocm@thp.uni-koeln.de
(Marcus Metzler) writes:
>I think the French language has to be dead in the 24th century, because
>otherwise Picard would be able to pronounce his own name correctly.
>Since neither he nor any of his crewmember are able to do this (not even
>Data, it is conceivable that ( like Latin which is certainly not pronounced 
>in the way Julius Caesar did it) the language is dead.
>
>Picard should be prounced with a silent "d" (like Picar ).
>As to Jean-Luc : 
>Well the Jean is no problem , but the Luc certainly doesn't sound like "Luke".
>Since there is no sound like the French u in the English language I can't
>really dicribe the pronounciation.
>
>By the way in the German version the name is pronounced correctly
>
>

My reasoning behind why Patrick Stewart doesn't pronounce Jean-Luc Picard
properly is that a lot of the writers and directors are American, and generally
American's have a hard time pronouncing non-english words. For example Mel
Blanc pronounced his name as "Blank", I have spoken to a person named Eric
Jacques but he pronounces his last name as "Jack quiz", and of course virtually
every American that I have ever met can not pronounce the last character of the
alphabet.  So in defense of Stewart it may be that he knows how to pronouce his
character's name correctly, but he is, in a way, forced to mispronounce it due
so that when Americans read the TV Guide they don't get confused.

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From: n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Andrea Aldridge)
Subject: Re: DSN:Man Alone - *MINOR SPOILER* Was that who I think it was? 
Organization: Western Washington University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:59:34 GMT

In article <malinon.727683022@vincent2.iastate.edu> malinon@iastate.edu (Ramon C Redondo) writes:
>
>Was the person that played the murderer in disguise Sean Connery?

No, it wasn't.  Trust this from a woman who lusts after ol' Sean.  Wrong voice,
eyebrows, mouth, height, build, VOICE, nose (but that last is obvious...:-).
I didn't catch his credit, but it wasn't The Man Who Would be Clone.

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From: chetc@quack.sac.ca.us (Chester L. Cuaresma)
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Subject: Ratings for DS9?
Date: 27 Jan 93 11:12:03 GMT
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.

I tried to get this out one time, but I don't think that it worked.
So, I'll try again:  how are the ratings for ds9?  I'm sure it's
blowing right up the charts....

As for a 7th season of TNG:  oy vay, just delaying the inevitable.
Look, it's obvious that the writers are running out of ideas for
the show.  Just let it go.  DS9 is stealing all their thunder
anyway...

				Chet C.


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 19:48:44 CST
From: <U16028@uicvm.uic.edu>
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Subject: RE: TNG's funniest moments

My vote goes to the opening scene from "Yesterday's Enterprise" when
Worf and Guinan are seated in 10 Forward.  She offers him a glass of
dark fluid.

G: "All right, try this."

W: (looking suspicious) "What is it?"

G: "Just try it."

(Worf reluctantly brings glass to mouth and sips.  Expression changes from
 annoyance to Klingon-type delight.)

G: "You see!  It's an Earth drink, prune juice."

W: (Klingon glint in his eye) "Ahhhhhh.  Warrior's drink!"

I really laughed the first time I saw this scene.


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From: gwangung@carson.u.washington.edu (just another theatre geek)
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Subject: Re: Sulu Re: English as Earth's standard language in the 24th Cent.?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:44:24 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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In article <C1Ix43.E69@wang.com> djw@wang.com (David Weinstein) writes:
>timlee@netcom.com (Timothy J. Lee) writes:
>>hjanberg@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Hans-nicolas Kenneth Janberg) writes:
>>|- Chekov is obviously a Russian native and Sulu a Japanese.
>>Hmmm, wasn't Sulu supposed to have met a 20th century ancestor in
>>San Francisco in ST4, but that scene got edited out?
>>That would mean that he's supposed to be American.
>
>How about CHINESE??? Chinese American...

	Ah, a TINY clue.....a Chinese American >>IS<< an American....


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with the cast of a musical revue."
From: mikes@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Sherman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Just say no...
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:25:32 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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...to posting arguments about O'Brien's rank.  You can do it--one day
at a time.  Say to yourself "I don't need to worry about O'Brien's rank
today." ;)
From: 00rdharringt@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Rob Harrington)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Holodeck matter (spoiler)
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:32:31 GMT
Organization: Ball State University

In article <C1I0qv.7JG@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
> Something just popped into my head whilst watching "Ship in a Bottle"

> 
> Okay, here it is:
> 
> The book shouldn't have disappeared.
> 
> The holodeck uses rudimentary transporter technology to create simply
> things such as trees, water (member, Wesley drips after falling into
> the stream in the pilot), paper (Moriarty's drawing in "Elementary,
> Dear Data"), etc.
> 
> The only matter that *can't* leave the holodeck are the people.  So
> the book, a replicated book, should have landed with a thud in the
> corridoor, not disappeared in a sparkle of light.
> 
> What do you all think?
> 
> Not a big problem, continuity-wise.  Not like all the QL problems,
> but annoying to those of us who like to pay attention to holodeck
> explanations for fanfic purposes.

also remember when the crooks tried to leave the holodeck way back 
when?  they just disappeared rather than going out in a flash of
light...


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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: Funniest TNG (was Re: WORST EPISODE)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:51:00 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <C1Gxoz.E3I@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> dkgardin@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Dan Gardiner) writes:
>
>   Sorry I can't remember the name of the episode, but it's the one where Q is 
>  turned human.  What I consider the funniest moment in TNG doesn't even contain a
>  line of dialogue.  It's right at the end of this episode when Q decides to give 
>  Data a little present as a thank-you for saving Q's life.  Then Data starts to
>  crack up laughing.  It had me rolling on the floor.  And it was such an ingenious
>  gift too!

That's "Deja Q".  It was on in Dallas/Fort Worth markets last night.

And I agree, I can't help but start chuckling, especially once they start
showing reaction shots of the bridge crew...

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From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Leonard Nimoy on The Simpsons
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:37:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: burrhus.1993Jan22.213709.20129
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

>Am I the only one who thought that Nimoy's Cameo was wasted?  Sure there were
>a few good LINES, but it wasn't that funny an EPISODE.  It would have been
>a below average episode if Nimoy's lines were in it.
>
>IMHO mode OFF:
>
>and, um, what does "OFF" stand for?
>
>
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From: lmcdougal@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu. (Lynn M. McDougal)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DSN: Dr. Bashir a stud
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:55:03 GMT
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In article <C1J2AK.LB2@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady
Johanna Constantine) wrote:
> 
> I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
> 
> I think this lad's a sweetie.
> 
> Well Ladies (and gents if that's your turn of mind), what 
> do we have to say on this topic?
> 
> 
> LJC, who is getting notorious for this sort of thread
> 
> 
> -- 
> Lady Johanna Constantine* Tales and dreams are the shadow-truths that will
> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu   * endure when mere facts are dust, and ashes, and
> Disclaimer - huh?       * forgot.      -Dream of the Endless (and Neil G.)
> LJC of the Net.Trenchcoat.brigade (Hi Elmo ;)

(Websters): STUD -- A male animal kept for breeding.  OK.  We'll give it to
him.  (WELLLLLLLLL, he DOES have big teeth!) 
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From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Star Trek marshmallow dispensers FOR SALE
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:34:12 GMT

I have two Star Trek marshmallow dispensers to sell.  These
were marketed by Kraft as a tie-in to ST: V (I think), the one
where Kirk, Spock, and McCoy were camping, and Spock pulled
out a gee-whiz marshmallow thingy.  Kraft made these look-alike
gadgets; they look like Spock's marshmallow replicator, but you
just pre-load them with some marshmallows, and a lever slides
them out one at a time.  Pretty cool.  It came with a little knife &
fork set for camping (now... when was the last time you ate a 
marshmallow with a knife and fork?).  According to the ad copy
that came with the set, Kraft Jet-Puffed Marshmallows (C) are
"...the official Marshmallow of the Starship Enterprise"!

Kirk: "Security alert!"
Spock: "What's the problem, sir?"
Kirk: "Unauthorized marshmallow on deck 10; somebody just
       popped open a bag of Camp-Fire marshmallows!
Spock: "The fiends!  Security team to deck 10, set phasers to Toast!"

Well, they are pretty neat Trek keepsakes.  Mine are unopened, in
their original packaging as received from Kraft.  I will sell them
for best reasonable offer.  Email to m_white@mitre.org.  Thanks.

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From: dbarber@crash.cts.com (David C. Barber)
Subject: Re: KIRA AND DAX ARE TOO GORGEOUS!!!!!!
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:43:00 GMT

There's no such thing as *too* gorgeous.


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From: hubcap@hubcap.clemson.edu (System Janitor)
Subject: Re: Space Rangers SUCKS BIG TIME!!!
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:33:38 GMT

>Space Rangers sucked for me because:
>  2) The show was to[o] campy/comicy for a prime-time show.

This is exactly why I like it. It is like a 1960's comic book. 

-Mike
From: Bill.Jacobson@ofa123.fidonet.org
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Subject: Klingon Language
X-Sender: newtout 0.06 Jan  3 1993
Date: 27 Jan 93  00:00:00

In a message dated %5 %1 %2 wrote to %3 %4:
 SP> With the recent discussion on Picard/Stewart's inability to speak 
 SP> good
 SP> French, I was wondering if there is any kind of Klingon-to-English
 SP> dictionary? (Or has the language not been developed that 
 SP> rigorously?)

Yes! There is a Klingon to English/English to Klingon dictionary that is
available through most major bookstores. (I've seen it in B Dalton and Walden 
Bookstores) The words in Klingon are written out phonetically in Roman letters 
(like these). Does anyone know if a similar dictionary is available that has
the Klingon words written in Klingonaise letters? 
________________________________________________
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From: nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn)
Subject: Re: DS9 Grade Report: "A Man Alone"
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:02:49 GMT

In <HMORAN.93Jan25103538@nswc-wo.?> hmoran@nswc-wo.? (Howard Moran) writes:
>In article <rawdon.727919914@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon) writes:
>   Certainly, "A Man Alone" had its problems.  For instance, the cloning
>   premise ran afoul of the usual problems that SF TV has with clones - why
>   would they be created fully-grown, and why would they have any memories or
>   personality when created?  (Ibudan's murdered clone didn't look like a
>   gibbering idiot, after all.)

>As for the memories/personality/gibbering idiot - we only saw the clone in
>the holoroom for a moment or so and all that was seen was a presumptive male
>adult experiencing the pleasure of a massage; no memories or personality was
>needed here, only the basic pleasure/pain response set we (and Bajorans) are
>born with.  Essentially, we might be seeing Ibudan kill...a child!

What no one seems to remember is the we *didn't* only see the clone when
he was getting a massage.  Am I the only one who remembers the conflict
in Quark's gambling hall?  He was an obviously fully functional human
being -- fully functional enough to have not only a physical but a
verbal fight with Odo.

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From: sichase@csa1.lbl.gov (SCOTT I CHASE)
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Subject: Re: DS9 Grade Report: "A Man Alone"
Date: 25 Jan 1993 09:13 PST
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In article <rawdon.727919914@cs.wisc.edu>, rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes...
>Spoilers for the DS9 episode "A Man Alone"...

>Odo's problems here were well-portrayed.  Odo somehow manages to be a
>sympathetic character despite his gruff exterior, perhaps in part because when
>the mob was after him, he didn't fight:  He ran to his quarters.  Clearly he's
>not as powerful - in some sense - as we might have thought.  Odo continues to
>be the most intriguing character among the cast.

I like Odo.  But I can't help thinking of Rene A.'s 'Clayton' character, who 
was almost exactly the same kind of character - he manages to be a 
sympathetic character despite his gruff exterior.  The tone of voice, the
indignance, short temper, etc., are almost the same.  I guess that's just 
his style.  But it takes away from  Odo for me to constantly have this bug
in my head.  It's like he's taking the easy way out, and just being
'Clayton in Outer Space.'

-Scott
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From: sweaver3@mach1.wlu.ca (scott weaver 9209 U)
Subject: Re: Klingon Language
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Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:20:00 GMT

Stephen B Parker (sbparker@infocom.UUCP) wrote:
: With the recent discussion on Picard/Stewart's inability to speak good
: French, I was wondering if there is any kind of Klingon-to-English
: dictionary? (Or has the language not been developed that rigorously?)
: -- 
: __________________________________________________________________
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There is.  I've seen a few (not very many, mind you) in a Coles Bookstore
in Ottawa.  I haven't seen any anywhere else.  I don't know what the
availability is like in the UK though.
Sorry, I have no info re: ISBN number, Library of Congress Catalogue
number, or any other number for this book.  But, I do know it exists.

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From: cwilson@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: KIRA looks familar!
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:26:11 GMT

Last night we were watching a repeat episode of TNG wihere the crew of the 
Enterprise find a lone surviving child on another ship and this
boy begins to emmulate Data ( I believe the title is "Hero Worship").
The female navigator, on the bridge, reminds me of Kira from DS9.  Is
she the same woman?  Thanks.   Connie Short
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From: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester)
Subject: Re: DSN: Dr. Bashir a stud
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:04:36 GMT

tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:
>I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
>I think this lad's a sweetie.
>Well Ladies (and gents if that's your turn of mind), what 
>do we have to say on this topic?

Doctor Bashir is the only chracter on DS9 that I want dead..
Hoepfully he is the character they intend to kill, if not
I might have to start another newsgroup

alt.doctor.bashir.die.die.die

Arrgh its the Weasel's father.

Jester
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From: morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu
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Subject: Re: DS9: Kira Fans
Date: 22 Jan 93 09:28:58 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Add my name to the Pro-Kira list!

Siobahn (Shabang) Morgan
morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu

Without any funky things hanging from my ears.
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