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From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Bulls stomp Suns: a sad tale
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:45:57 GMT
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Organization: University of Arizona
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In article <By5MsH.4sx@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, hbolande@java.journalism.indiana.edu writes:
> TWO QUESTIONS FOR SUNS FANS:
> 1) Why didn't Knight (who posted great numbers while KJ was injured) come  
> off the bench instead of Frank Johnson at PG?

First off, Knight didn't post great numbers while KJ was injured.  As for
why he came off the bench behind Frank Johnson, I don't know.  Frank had
been "hot" (as much as you can be for a 12th man) for the past couple of
games, and maybe that's what Westphal was thinking of.

Otherwise your comments above I wholeheartedly agree with.  I would give
the coach more of a chance before wishing for Fitzsimmons back....

> 2)Does anybody like the new uniforms?

No comment.
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
From: russ@xylogics.com (Russel M. Lamoreaux)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Who are the worst players in nba?
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:56:54 GMT
Organization: xylogics.com




How about the whole Celtics team?  They are in a massive funk!!

Watching them play is like watching water freeze?!?!?!?!

Russ (At least the Nets are decent again) Lamoreaux







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From: grubin@rap.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin)
Subject: Re: Undefeated Teams?
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: NCAR, Research Applications Program
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:40:09 GMT



gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>jhak@sofya.math.byu.edu (Justin Hakanson) writes:
>>I do believe it was the '72 Lakers who went 69-13.  Nobody's ever broken
>>the 70 win mark.

>[...] the 73 Celtics also went 68-14.  The next high marks in the last 22
>years are the 86 Celts and 92 Bulls with 67-15.

Can't help it, gotta get in the shameless ABA plug.  The 1974-75 Denver
Nuggets were 65-19 (note the 84-game season), and the following year were
60-24 (the last year of the ABA).  Essentially the same team won the
NBA Midwest Division the next two years.



-- 
Rick Grubin     grubin@ncar.ucar.edu
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From: parks@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (Camden `Snake-Oil' Parks)
Subject: BOXSCORE: was06njn06.15nov92
Reply-To: parks@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:50:35 GMT

was 104, njn 111   15nov92

was ( 1- 5)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
gugliotta,tom     42   9  12   1  1   1  2   4 15   3  4  2  6  2  0  0  0   20
grant,harvey      40   5  13   0  0   5  8   0  1   2  0  2  2  0  0  0  0   15
ellison,pervis    29  11  18   0  0   0  0   4 11   2  2  1  2  1  0  0  0   22
chapman,rex       40   8  17   1  3   4  4   0  1   4  6  2  3  0  0  0  0   21
adams,michael     42   4  11   0  2   4  5   0  2  16  2  1  2  0  0  0  0   12
foster,greg       10   2   2   0  0   0  0   0  2   1  1  0  1  2  0  0  0    4
johnson,buck       6   0   0   0  0   0  0   1  2   1  1  1  0  0  0  0  0    0
jones,charles      9   1   2   0  0   0  0   1  2   0  3  0  1  1  0  0  0    2
price,brent        8   2   4   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  1  0  1  0  0  0  0    4
stewart,larry      5   0   1   0  0   0  0   0  1   0  1  1  1  0  0  0  0    0
overton,doug       4   0   2   0  0   0  0   1  1   0  2  0  1  0  0  0  0    0
maclean,don        5   2   2   0  0   0  0   0  2   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    4
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
was totals       240  44  84   2  6  14 19  11 40  29 23 10 20  6  0  0  0  104
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .524   .333   .737       team rebs  6

njn ( 3- 3)      min  fgm fga 3m 3a ftm fta or tr  as pf st to bk tc ej ff  pts
morris,chris      21   5  10   0  1   1  1   0  0   1  2  2  0  1  0  0  0   11
coleman,derrick   37   9  17   0  0   2  2   8 14   3  5  2  5  3  0  0  0   20
bowie,sam         16   2   7   0  0   3  3   1  6   0  1  0  1  0  0  0  0    7
anderson,kenny    30   4  10   0  0   0  0   0  4   6  2  0  3  0  0  0  0    8
petrovic,drazen   42  11  21   1  1   9 10   1  5   3  2  4  5  1  0  0  0   32
dudley,chris      27   4   5   0  0   3  4   6 14   0  4  0  1  1  0  0  0   11
george,tate        6   0   2   0  0   0  0   0  0   2  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
mahorn,rick       16   2   3   0  0   0  0   0  2   0  1  0  2  0  0  0  0    4
addison,rafael    27   2   5   0  1   2  2   1  1   0  3  0  0  0  0  0  0    6
robinson,rumeal   18   6  13   0  0   0  2   1  1   3  4  0  3  0  0  0  0   12
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
njn totals       240  45  93   1  3  20 24  18 47  18 24  8 20  6  0  0  0  111
FG, 3P, FT averages:     .484   .333   .833       team rebs  4
procedure technicals 1

was   34  12  26  32  -  104
njn   30  29  26  26  -  111

attendance 9589, time 2:04, officials: DCrawford,WMayfield,TNunez
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From: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Subject: Suns update
Reply-To: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Phoenix, AZ
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:10:08 GMT


Notebook:
---------
Suns shuttle over to L.A. on Saturday night and return home Sunday to host the
Chicago Bumms.  Speaking of which, the Suns and Bumms are the only 2 NBA teams
that the Woofies haven't beaten since joining the NBA.

Jerrod Mustaf and KJ both practiced Tuesday and yesterday.  Both may be
activated for this weekend's games.  It was KJ first time touching the ball in 2
weeks.  The Suns will have to make 2 moves to activate them.

John Lucas was in town to conduct the league's substance abuse seminar.  He
wouldn't comment on Dumas though.  Dumas should be cleared for return this
month.

It looked like a Piston's practice, but it really was the Suns!  Tuesday's
practice took on the tones of early training camp in Flagstaff.  Rambo was at
the center of 2 physical and verbal confrontations, one with the Big O, one with
Stoyko Kempton.  The Big O even took a couple swings at Rambo.  Tommy Gun also
had a few words and pushes for Mustaf.  Charles sure has changed the character
and toughness of this team for the better!

Quotebook:
----------
"I feel great.  I'm hoping to play Saturday for sure.  I can't break out against
the Bulls without a warm-up game." - KJ

"I want to let him know that we love him, we're rooting for him and that he has
to keep working.  He kind of plateaued on us.  We don't want him to level out.
Sometimes he needs a little extra incentive." - Paul Westphal after spending
extra time with the Big O and running him through some exhaustive drills.

"I like it.  Just as long as we all walk off the court together." - Paul
Westphal on the confrontations in practice.

--

    Mike
    
    "in this day & age...music performed by humans...hum?!" 
       - wilde silas tomkyn
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From: khansen@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: BOX: Wolves vs Bullets (11/20)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:07:52 GMT

11/20/92
Washington 108 Minnesota 100

Washington (3-5)
Player		MIN	FG	FGA	FT	FTA	TR	PF	PTS
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Gugilotta	44	9	19	5	6	7	3	24
Grant		42	11	24	3	4	10	1	25
Jones		20	0	0	0	0	4	4	0
Overton		24	4	11	0	0	1	3	8
Adams		42	7	14	7	9	5	3	24
Johnson		24	4	11	0	0	9	4	8
Price		6	0	1	0	0	0	1	0
Foster		11	1	4	0	0	1	3	2
MacLean		10	5	7	0	1	1	1	10
Stewart		17	3	6	1	1	7	3	7

Totals		240	44	97	16	21	45	26	108

Minnesota (2-5)

Player		MIN	FG	FGA	FT	FTA	TR	PF	PTS
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Person		45	11	21	1	2	5	3	23
Laettner	34	6	15	6	8	10	3	18
Spencer		22	0	4	2	2	8	0	2
West		42	4	11	2	4	4	5	10
Williams	26	6	9	5	5	2	4	17
Bailey		30	2	9	10	10	6	2	14
Longley		13	4	5	0	0	5	2	8
Blanks		6	0	1	2	2	0	0	2
Smith		22	3	4	0	0	2	2	6

Totals		240	36	79	28	33	42	21	100

Assists - Minnesota 26 (Person and Smith 7), Washington 34 (Adams 9); Steals -
Minnesota 7 (Person and Smith 2), Washington 8 (Grant and Jones 2) ; Turnovers
- Minnesota 21 (Laettner 7), Washinton 15 (Adams 3) , Blocks - Minnesota 8
(Bailey 3), Washington 3 (Gugilotta, Jones and Overton 1); 3 FG - Minnesota
0-7
(Laettner and Blanks 0-1, Person 0-5), Washington 4-5 (Adams 3-3, Gugilotta
1-1, Price 0-1) ; FG% - Minnesota .456, Washington .454 ; 3FG% - Minnesota 
.000, Wsahington .800; FT% - Minnesota .848, Washington .762 ; Technical Fouls
- None ;
A - 18,301


Wasington		23	23	25	37	108
Minnesota		21	26	23	30	100

===========
Notes:

	1)  Wolves looked terrible against a team that they should have easily
beat.  The Bullets were without two starters (Ellison and Chapman) and hadn't
won a road game since last March.

	2)  Too many Wolves turnovers again.  A total of 21 (7 from Laettner 
and 5 from Longley) is a habit that Minnesotat can't continue if it expects
to win.

	3)  Mumblings are being heard around Target Center that coach Jimmy
Rodgers is on the 'hot seat'.

	4)  Thurl Bailey tied the consecutive free throw made mark of 25 that
had been set earlier by Michael Williams.  Bailey is a perfect 25-25 this
season.

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From: paulg@microsoft.com (Paul Goode)
Subject: Re: Why Golden State will be the next dynasty.
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:29:47 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Summary: Spurs of long ago...

In article <BxzB2K.MHC@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
> kthompso@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Kevin Thompson) writes:
> 
> > Remember the Spurs about 10 years ago? 
> 
> 	Now, HERE's a fun team to watch!  They featured the likes of 
> 	the Iceman (George Gervin), James Silas, and Larry Kenon -- and
> 	U want to talk about throwing it up?  Talk about points galore
> 	(was Doug Moe the coach of this team? -- or did he already move
> 	to Denver?) 

By '82-'83, Moe was long gone, as was Larry Kenon. Moe was fired
mid-way through the '79-'80 season and replaced temporarily by
Bob Bass and then officially by Stan Albeck. Albeck coached through
'82-'83; George Gervin, James Silas, Mike Mitchell, and Artis
Gilmore were his top players; Gene Banks rounded out the starting
em
>   Anyways, they sure couldn't play any defense --
> 	which has been proven in the past few years, U have to have to
> 	win championships.  If the Spurs scored 130, their opponents
> 	would score 135.  If I recall, however, they did make it pretty

Doug Moe always claimed that his clubs played good defense, and
by his lights he may have been right. Moe derided points given up
per game as a useful measure, because it didn't account for 
style of play. He pointed to other measures like average difference
per game (under Moe, the Spurs were typically around +4) and average
turnover differnce. His best Spurs'clubs posted pretty good
numbers in these areas.

Paul
From: T9214508@phillip.edu.au (DAME)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Luc Longley
Date: 23 Nov 1992 05:32:35 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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     From the few statistics I've seen of Longley this year, it appears that
     he has improved from last year. Before people start saying that he 
     couldn't have got much worse, could someone give me an indication as 
     to how much/little he has improved.

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From: richards@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jonathan Richards)
Subject: Is it too soon?
Keywords: n
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:44:31 GMT

Hmm...The Bulls are on a pace to win 70 games this season (with rounding,
at least.)

:-)

(For those of you who missed the smiley, the sarcasm light was *on*)
--
Jonathan Richards
little-jon@nwu.edu

"We're not laughing at you -- we're laughing near you."
-- Dead Poet's Society
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From: lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange)
Subject: ANDREW GAZE!!!
Organization: Australia Dreamers, INc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 12:18:17 GMT

I just saw Aussie ANDREW GAZE!!! play last knight against the so-called
Mighty Bruins!!!  He scored 29 points against the bestest defence in
basketball and kicked there butts!!!

He made shots that even Michael Jordon wouldn't dare to take!  This PROOFS
THAT HE AND LUC L0NGLEY WOULD HAVE WHOOPED THE DREAM TEAM!!!

THE USA WAS JUST LUCKEY!  LUCKEY LUC!!!

- BOB L0NGLEY
  BOB@PIE.IN.SKY.AU

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From: richarje@inga2.acc.stolaf.edu (Joe E Richardson Iii)
Subject: NO MORE Aussie Posts
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:45:18 GMT
From: dolsen@bpavms.bpa.arizona.edu (David Olsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Questions
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:36:00 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona MIS Department
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov23.194930.11303@midway.uchicago.edu>, hh15@midway.uchicago.edu writes...
> 
>1) Has any player in the NBA history EVER had a quadruple double?  I
>mean double digits in any four of the following categories: points,
>rebounds, steals, assists, blocks (and maybe turnover? :) 

I know Alvin Robertson had one when he was with San Antonio and Mark Eaton
came within a block of having one once.


> 
>2) Can anybody help me on the following: I would like to see the
>ranking of NBA teams in terms of their average heights, by which I
>mean the average of all players' heights weighted by each's average
>playing time in a NBA year.  How 'bout last year, let's say?
> 
>Thanks.
> 
>Harry


David Olsen
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From: dwest@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dan West)
Subject: What is the word on Jim Jackson in Dallas?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:14:56 GMT


I haven't heard a thing about JJ's negotiations with the Mav's. Anyone
heard anything recent?


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From: pmmst8+@pitt.edu (Paul M Mweene)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: BOXSCORE: Denver 99  Detroit 87  17.Nov.92
Keywords: Stith out  broken foot
Date: 24 Nov 92 01:47:51 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov23.152603.29216@ncar.ucar.edu> grubin@rap.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin) writes:
>
>The MIGHTY NUGGETS got back in the win column after 4 straight losses
>Rick Grubin     grubin@ncar.ucar.edu
i

How are the nuggets mighty?

makala
:wq
   

Organization: Freshman, H&SS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 14:05:24 -0500 
From: Daniel Reid Helsten <dh4w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Jazz, 5-0 on the road?


What's going on here, the Jazz are 100% on the road and 33% at home?
There is something wrong here.  Well I'll take it anyway.

Daniel R. Helsten
dh4w@cmu.edu

"History is a lie agreed upon." Napoleon
From: n9041679@henson.cc.wwu.edu (brian h. harper)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Best Division in the NBA?
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:12:36 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University

as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner) writes:


>You forgot one stat...

>Pacific (0-4)   NBA Championships in past four years!
>Central (4-0)   NBA Championships in past four years!

>You can KEEP your Pathetic Pacific exhibition season early records.  I think
>these stats tell it all. ;-)

No, they don't tell all, they tell one thing: Chicago is and Detroit was the
strongest TEAM in the NBA, but we're talking DIVISION here. And there's no
doubt that the Pacific is the toughest division, champs or no.


-Brian Harper

>Mike
>--
From: rodmur@ecst.csuchico.edu (Dale Harris)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Prediction for Friday the 20th
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:08:23 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu

Friday the 20th of November I believe is the day that the Portland
Trailblazers will be handed their first defeat at the hands of the
Sacramento Kings at home in the ARCO arena.  Why would I make such an
outlandish prediction, you ask?  Mabey for the simple fact the Kings will be
at home and the game will be on network television, the Kings have beat the
Trailblazers before in previous seasons in Sacramento when the Kings were
a much worse team that they are now, and with the game being televised
nationally the ARCO arena crowd is going to be more frenzied than ever for
a Kings win, the noise alone will defeat the Trailblazers.

-- 
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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Bulls Schedule
Keywords: BULLS, NBA
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:57:10 GMT

dward@ducvax.auburn.edu (Dawn Ward     ) writes:
>I was wondering if anyone out there had the '92-'93 Bulls schedule, I just
>started reading and didn't notice one posted.	

Did you notice the announcement about data available for public FTP?


--Gidi
From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: SIXERS WILL GO 78-4 AND WINN THE NBA CHAMPIONSHIP
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:49:40 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Nov18.210729.13435@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> tmurray@lonestar.utsa.edu (Terrence M. Murray) writes:
>
>LAST THING A QUESTION FOR ALL THE (WANNA BE PRO BALL STUDS) WHO WAS THE FIRST
>PLAYER IN THE NBA TO SCORE 2000 POINTS IN A SEASON ...YOULL NEVER GET IT
>HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>signed julius the master predictor (aaron b. perkins)


  come on - that's easy:  george yardley, 57-58, for detroit, 2001 points.
  mikan missed it by 68 pts in 50-51.

- nate
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From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Most players from a specific team
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:22:01 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <BxvF8v.5FF@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pa56680@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (P. Ialamanna) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.160428.1977@eng.umd.edu> edquist@eng.umd.edu (Karl T. Edquist) writes:
>>
>>In article <Bxtyso.D07@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J ) writes:
>>>	Here's a question for U all to ponder:
>>>
>>>	Which one specific collegiate team (i.e. Old Dominion '86-'87,
>>>	Kentucky '84-'85, etc) has the most players currently on NBA
>>>	rosters?
>>>
>>>	HINT:  It's neither Old Dominion 86-87 or Kentucky 84-85.  :)
>>>	Jazzy J
>
>>
>>How about Michigan '88-'89?  Loy Vaught, Glen Rice, Rumeal Robinson, and Terry Mills.
>>Karl
>
>I know that Illinois '88-'89 also has 4 players currently in the NBA:
>Kendall Gill, Nick Anderson, Marcus Liberty, and Steve Bardo.
>

Wow... don't forget they also had Kenny Battle that year as well.  Michigan
countered with also having Sean Higgins that year.  However, the year before,
in 87-89 they had all those players plys Gary Grant...  That would be 6 players
in the NBA ... wow... 
-- 
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VMark Software, Inc.      ||  Jostling for attention as the sunlight flares
uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
davem%uvmark@merk.com     ||  As if in nervous anticipation of another day"
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Subject: Pervis Injured ???
From: elda@chen.bgu.ac.il (elda weizman )
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 20:12:05 GMT
Organization: Ben-Gurion University, Beer Sheva, Israel

Is Pervis Ellison injured?
if so- how bad? when will he play again?
did Was. put him on injury reserve?

Email me.

Noam
elda@chen.bgu.ac.il

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From: terry@leland.Stanford.EDU (Terry Wong)
Subject: Re: Why Golden State will be the next dynasty.
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 01:52:16 GMT

In article <41402@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, cs161feu@sdcc10.ucsd.edu (Anthony Minkoff) writes:
|> Well, no flames about GS losing six of their last seven, but I
|> noticed in the boxscore for last night's 1-OT loss to Charlotte,
|> Hardaway and Mullin each played 53 minutes.  GS got a total of 41
|> minutes and 5 points from the bench.
|> 
|> Last season, Mullin and Hardaway were #1 and #2 in the league in
|> minutes player.  With Rodman evidently out of the running this
|> season, it looks like Mullin and Hardaway are going to occupy the
|> top two spots again.
|> 
|> This is indicative of a significant problem in GS--  no bench!
|> (Don't give me any of that "Rooney's injured" crap, either.  He's a
|> virtual starter.  Last season, GS had only four regular starters--
|> Hardaway, Mullin, Owens, and Hill-- while Nelson kept trying
|> different players as placeholders for Marciulionis.)
|> 
|> Tony

While it is true that Mullin and Hardaway get too many minutes, and
this will haunt them at the end of the season as it did last year, 
the Charlotte game is not a representative game to draw any conclusions for.

The Warriors entered this game with only 7 healthy bodies.  Alexander 
was at his brother's funeral; Sprewell and Jennings were hurt in the previous
night's game; Owens and Grayer were also hurt though they did play.

In fact, by the end of the game, the Warriors were down to their last five
players, because Grayer was hurt again, and Owens, Houston, and Hill had
all fouled out.  It would have been an interesting situation if the
Warriors had lost another player.

If we look at the stats from the previous week, Mullin played 38, 46, 40,
and 33 minutes; Hardaway had played 36, 38, 41, and 33 minutes.
The Warriors bench in those games contributed 29, 31, 44, and 41 points. 

					terry@garfield.Stanford.EDU
From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Bobby Hansen
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:48:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

Does anyone know if/where Hansen is playing this year?