From: eng10511@nusunix1.nus.sg (RAM VIKASH TIWARY)
Subject: Re: Name of Palestinian Deportees (part i)
Organization: National University of Singapore
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:53:20 GMT

Jake Livni (jake@bony1.bony.com) wrote:
: In article <EGGERTJ.93Jan6232956@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu writes:
: >In article <1993Jan6.222732.11871@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:
: >>   "Occupied their territory"?  Unlike Egypt and Lebanon, say, there has
: >>   never in history been a Palestinean empire, kingdom, country or state.
: >
: >The same can be said of Massachusetts.  It is not a terribly
: >enlightening statement.
: 
: It is very illuminating.
: 
: The Palestineans are calling for the establishment of a "Homeland" for
: themselves in exactly the same plot of land that someone else already
: has a homeland.  However, the Palestineans have no historical, legal,
: political or cultural justification for this "homeland" that they
: propose be excised from the Jewish state.

	Are you seriously suggesting that Palestinians who inhabited
what was Palestine right up to 1948 have no rights whatsoever to a
"homeland" in part of that area.  Who does then, Saddam Hussein?


: 
: >>   If the West Bank has been "occupied" by Israel, wouldn't it be exactly
: >>   equally true to say that the East Bank has been "occupied" by Jordan?
: >
: >Tell you what, if you argue that Israel should give up the West Bank,
: >I'll argue that Jordan should give up the East Bank.  If you don't
: >agree to this, then you are just blowing hot air.
: 
: Agreed.  When Jordan approaches the Peace negotiations offering Land
: to Israel in return for Peace from Israel, a new understanding may
: indeed of the situation may indeed arise.
: 
: Not only was my previous paragraph written in all seriousness, but
: seeing as "Palestine" was the name of a region comprising primarily
: what is today Israel and Jordan and "Palestineans" primarily referred
: to the Jewish and Arab people who lived in this region, it is entirely
: proper to divide the land in dispute equitably among the people who
: are disputing it.  You will still find that Israel is a tiny land, and
: that the Jews received a small part of the region.  If you still
: insist that Israel give up the WB, it is entirely appropriate for
: Jordan to give up the EB in a proportionate manner.  What is it,
: something like 50% of the land mass of either country?  I'm sure that
: the Jordanians and the Hashemites will just love that one.

	What kind of contorted logic is that.  Where does the question
of giving up the West Bank in return for equal concession from the
Jordanian side originate.  Does Israel prefer a future Palestinian state
to be twice the size of the West Bank or is this a case of making
demands you know the other side cannot fulfill in order not to appear
like the sopilers of the peace process. 
: 
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