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From: mnc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Elderberry)
Subject: Re: Easily bred fish
Reply-To: mnc1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:52:22 GMT

I must recommend guppies. If you're looking for cheap and easy to
breed, they're the ones. Plus they can stand a variety of water conditions.
I left for Christmas break with about 7 guppies in my tank and returned
to find 15. And this is with _very_ little plant coverage for them to
hide in. If you want something a little more upscale, fancy guppies
are just the thing. If you want cheap, a dozen guppies cost $2 at my
favorite pet shop, probably less elsewhere.
  I'm not at all skilled as a fish breeder and I've had lots of luck
with no effort. At any rate, start with guppies, then work your way up.

Matt
(mnc1@quads.uchicago.edu)
Xref: sparky rec.aquaria:9929 alt.aquaria:6506
From: mdkj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Loaches and snails
Date: 11 Jan 93 09:11:11 EST
Reply-To: opsomer@orie.cornelDIR/ALLl
Distribution: world,rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1993Jan8.145708.29181@wam.umd.edu>,
harold@wam.umd.edu (James B. Harold) writes: 
> 
> Who out there has put loaches into a tank with Malaysian
> burrowing ("trumpet") snails?  Were the snails eliminated,
> or just severely controlled?  I was considering getting a
> loach (maybe a small clown) for my plant tank, but I don't
> want to completely eliminate my snail population.  I like
> having them cruising around turning over the substrate and
> eating stray bits of food and algae...in fact, I seeded the
> tank with them for that reason.  On the other hand, the
> snail population is a little excessive at the moment, and 
> I wouldn't mind having them thinned out (or at least scared
> back into the substrate). 
> 
> And two other botia questions:
>   1) Do they dig at all?  I don't want any uprooted plants.
>   2) Are they at all territorial?  Would they interfere with
>      dwarf cichlids trying to establish caves and such?
> 
> Thanks...
> -- 
> 
> James Harold

I have had a loach (3 inches, marbled black and yellowish-white ... sorry, I
can't remember its name right now, but I can look it up if anyone is
interested: it was on the front page of AFM a couple of months ago), together
with three kinds of snails for about 9 months.  It seems that the trumpet
snails are the hardest ones to catch (for the loach, that is), becausethose
are the most numerous ones.  Apparently, the loach does munch on them somewhat,
since the snail populations appear stable.  So my advice would be: go ahead.
As for your other questions: I have not seen my loach damage or uproot any
plants, and although it is "rowdy", it does not harrass any of my other fish
(which include plecos, discus, rasboras).

John Opsomer

Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: rclark@alcor.concordia.ca (Richard Clark)
Subject: (F) The International Characin Association is alive (follow-up)
Summary: they finally contacted me
Keywords: characin, freshwater
Organization: Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:44:30 GMT

Hi,
    I posted a few months ago looking for information on the
International Characin Association because they hadn't responded to my
letter, I thought they had closed.  I thought it appropriate to post
that today (Jan 11/93) I received a letter from them with a membership
application inside.  I don't know why my letter to them dated approx
June 1/92 mailed from Montreal to England took 7 months for an answer,
their letter is postmarked Jan 5/93 which indicates that mail from
England can get here quite fast.

For anyone that's interested, the address is

Mr. D.G. Sidebottom
18 Harry Street
Werneth, Oldham
Lancashire OL9 7TA
ENGLAND

Tel : 061-626-9128

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From: scol@scottsdale.az.stratus.com (Scott Colbath)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: [F] Lethargic Angel
Date: 6 Jan 1993 13:49:59 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: scottsdale.az.stratus.com


One of my pair of Angelfish is acting lethargic and has not eaten in almost 48  
hours (very unusual for this fish). The fish's color is normal and everything  
else about it looks normal. It has just decided to remain very low key and not  
eat or swim around much. Could there be a problem? I have a Black Skirt Tetra  
which did something similar and recoverd just fine after 7 days. I never could  
figure out that one.
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From: peschko@diatom.micro.umn.edu (Edward Peschko)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: problem with Trigger
Date: 12 Jan 93 15:14:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.C0qyBL.Ltn
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis: Under Grad Workstation Lab.

well -- I have quite a serious problem with my trigger fish: he's dead.
What the hell happened? He was in PERFECT condition one day, swimming around,
the next day he's on the bottom of the tank!
	This wouldn't bother me as much, but a) I liked the damn fish, and b) one
	of my friends had a trigger as well, and IT died in exactly the same way 
(swimming along fine, then *WHUMP*) I tested the water, and it seems OK... 
Nitrates, etc. are low.

	Is there such a thing as Cardiac arrest in fish? And what should I do in 
order to get a fish autopsy?

Any help would be appreciated...

Thanks, 

Ed
From: hester@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Bob Hester)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 17:39:06 GMT
Subject: Re: [M] RUGF filtration: how much is too much?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria



>
> I believe that the 660's should be more than adequate, and I'm
> concerned that if I bought the 1140's, the noise and current flow, and
> back pressure would be obnoxious (I have visions of coral levitating).
>

	I have 4 of the 1140 in a 125 gallon tank. There is no real noise
from the 1140s. Althought the 2 Magnum 302 canisters I have is enough to 
drive you batty. I haven't had any problems with the current flow or lifting
gravel. The currents are not near as radical since I went to RUGF.

Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Subject: Re: Recommendation on cold water fish
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 07:54:07 GMT

In article <93003.150745LLB@psuvm.psu.edu> Larry Bunge <LLB@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>What is wrong with guppies? 

Nothing wrong with guppies if they are not of the "fancy" varieties.  Wild
guppies are very hardy.  (Un)fortunately guppies are very prolific and 
do not make for good long-term inhabitants of a small tank.

>Killifishes may be expensive and tempermental.

Some killifishes may be expensive and temperamental, others are simple to
keep and are available for nearly free from the killifish breeders and
hobbyists in your local aquarium society or AKA affiliate club. 
-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: philt@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (philip.tomaskovic)
Subject: Re: Tiger Cowrie
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:27:05 GMT



I had a different cowrie which also seemed to like my Sebae anenome;
it doesn't appear that they are not always harmless algae eaters
as they are sometimes advertised.

Phil
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Subject: Re: Aquaclear 300 problem
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 10:16:15 GMT

In article <93007.163955LLB@psuvm.psu.edu> Larry Bunge <LLB@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>intake but fortunately she got free unharmed. A day later I found a medium size
>angel stuck nose first in the filter and dead. I didn't panic then. Within the

A healthy medium size angel should have enough strength to swim away.  If it
was trapped in the filter intake it was probably dead before it got stuck.

>course of a week I found 2 dead neons, a large platy with a deeply cut mouth
>(she later died) and another angelfish all dead in an aquarium where I haven't

If the neons were killed by the filter, would they not have been wedged 
in the intake?

>A week ago I started using the filter again - but first drilled some 80 5/32"
>holes in the lower intake pipe. Everything seems to be alright now that the
>the intake suction area has been increased.

Aquaclear 300 is adjustable.  Why not just turn down the flow?

>NOTE: The tank has an "air-driven" UGF with four tubes. I am only running the
>aquaclear 300 about 6 hours a day. It helps keep the water crystal clear, but

I hope you make sure no debree remains on the filter pads.  Decaying
organics will cause a massive release of ammonia every time the filter is
used.   
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From: wissler@stsci.edu (Steven Wissler,G12,4899,ADD.1-29-91)
Subject: Re: [M] Firefish 
Originator: wissler@homer.stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:21:19 GMT

	My clowns attacked my fairy basslet when the basslet came near 
	their anemone. Other than that the seem to take no particular
	interest in any other fish.

				Steve Wissler
				wissler@stsci.edu  
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
From: glee@athena.mit.edu (Gilbert Huppert)
Subject: Re: [M] hostile clownfish (was firefish)
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:18:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.214235.18206@cs.ucla.edu> jason@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Jason Rosenberg) writes:
>By percula, I assume we're all talking about A. oscellaris....

As far as I know.  How do you identify them?

>There is a constant battle between my two clowns and the
>coral beauty, which is a little larger than the biggest clown.  Once every
>few days, I see them waging a tail wagging war.  But I haven't seen any
>injuries....
>

I too have a coral beauty angel, which is much larger than the two clown
fish put together, and they completely ignore the angel.  When I said they
were attacking the firefish, I actually saw one of them grab the tail in
its mouth, and start swimming around with the firefish in tow.  The firefish
is slightly longer than the clown, but is probably a lot smaller in mass since
the clown is fat and the firefish is long and skinny.



--
Gilbert Lee Huppert (glee@athena.mit.edu)
Materials Etching Technology Laboratory
From: booth@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (George Booth)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:39:54 GMT
Subject: Re: "humid" environment materials?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria

In rec.aquaria, oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev) writes:

    Any suggestions?  Is there a better, more reliable or easier way to
    water-proof drywall?  Are there simpler to use or cheaper materials
    available?  Would 2x4 framing be easier or cheaper or much safer to

There is a waterproof drywall material called "BlueBoard" or something
like that.  Probably more expensive but worth looking at. 

-------
George
From: holly@sybase.com (Innocent Bystander)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: Organi-Cure?????????????
Keywords: copper non-toxic to inverts????????
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:50:18 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <2768@grivel.une.edu.au> rbennet1@neumann.une.edu.au (Robert Bennetts.) writes:
|
|"			CONTENTS
|	COPPER 1.25% and FORMALDEHYDE 17% in a tri-chelated form
|		that is safe for invertebrates.                     "

|		^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|	The directions are as follows...
|
|	"	To control and cure oodinium,tetrahymena, costia, cryptocaryon,
|	saltwater ICK, add one drop of ORGANI-CURE per gallon. Repeat in 48 
|	hours
So how is this stuff supposed to kill of all of these organisms when it's
safe for invertebrates?  Perhaps oodinium isn't an invertebrate, or am
I missing something here?

|	Use when introducing new fish."
|	Any one who has used this product in their invert tank??

I sure wouldn't.  even if that is a "safe" low dosage(whatever that would be),
copper will accumulate.  and formaldehyde is right out.  Doesn't sound like 
good stuff to me, mon.
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Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: june@Cadence.COM (June Petersen)
Subject: Re: Baby cichlids
Organization: Cadence Design Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:25:37 GMT

 Arthur Krewat writes:

>	Thanks for the reply... and don't worry, I'm not about to spread
>another hybrid into the world. I've seen too many pet shops with some strange
>variations on the standard cichlids (but these could be real cichlids and I
>just don't know the difference).
>	As to "disposing" of the fry, that I couldn't do if I tried. These guys
>will be distributed to friends who have tanks, not to pet shops...

I was glad to read this... soft-hearted as I am, when I read
previous posts suggesting you "distroy" the fry, I was
disturbed, though I understand the necessity of keeping 
bloodlines pure.  Glad to hear you're soft-hearted too...

TTFN,
June


Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
From: jason@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Jason Rosenberg)
Subject: Re: [M] hostile clownfish (was firefish)
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 21:42:35 GMT

By percula, I assume we're all talking about A. oscellaris....That's what
I have anyway.  There is a constant battle between my two clowns and the
coral beauty, which is a little larger than the biggest clown.  Once every
few days, I see them waging a tail wagging war.  But I haven't seen any
injuries....


Jason

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From: scr2275@hertz.njit.edu (Samuel C. Ramac)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Fluval 303, a good filter?
Date: 9 Jan 93 05:26:03 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.
Originator: scr2275@hertz.njit.edu

Hi!
  Is FLUVAL 303 a good cannister filter for a new 55-gal tank?  I am
planning to start a new fresh water aquarium.

   Should I consider any other brand?

  -sam-


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Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
From: lawrence@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Lawrence H. Smith,E20 Clark,56064,2726746)
Subject: Re: Aquaclear 300 problem
Originator: lawrence@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:33:11 GMT

From article <1993Jan11.024000.13464@bsu-ucs>, by 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu:
>> Also, in my breeding tank, I have an aquaclear mini which sucked up all but
>> one fish in the last spawn of my pearl gouramis.
> 
> How about that idea of a sponge-media sliced and vertically slid ofver the
> intake?
> 
I bought extra AquaClear Mini sponges, and slit them in the middle so that
the intake tube fits in and the sponge block covers the intake tube holes.
This works fairly well, and costs very little. The sponge is flexible enough
that bothering to freeze/drill the block is not needed; simply poking a
knife down into the block is enough. This keeps most things from getting
sucked in, and adds considerably to the filtration area. The "mini" blocks
are about right for all of the smaller uplift tubes - I use them on mini's
and 200's. With very casual cleaning, they have never had problems with
clogging.

-Lawrence Smith, lawrence@msc.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
From: oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Subject: Re: [F] Spinach leaves: can they over dose on it?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 10:23:56 GMT

In article <lkqhabINNgag@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> assana@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (assana) writes:
>Now, could someone please shed some light on this: could this hurt 
>them? Should I stop? They seem to love it, but I don't want them
>to over dose!

It was mentioned in a variety of sources that the oxalic(???) acid contained
in spinach can be a hazard if overdozed.  In the excess amounts (like when 
100% of your food is spinach) this supposedly can induce cancer.

You may try feeding your fish other greens: defrostred or steamed peas and
beans, blanched letuce leaves, zuccini, etc.

(BTW, in this case the info on the tank was not essential)
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From: marka@SSD.CSD.HARRIS.COM (Mark Ashley)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: ORP & CO2 controllers
Date: 12 Jan 1993 13:35:08 GMT
Organization: Harris Computers Systems Division, Fort Lauderdale,FL
NNTP-Posting-Host: hcx1.ssd.csd.harris.com

I've seen ads where they suggest replacing the probes for
these gadgets every year. I wouldn't mind the price of the
controller itself since it's (hopefully) a one-time purchase.
But the probes seem awfully expensive. And replacing them
every year seems outrageous. Are those ads just doing
sales trickery or is that replacement rate normal ?

e-mail please. Thanks.

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From: lewisg@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (TEMPORARILY METABOLICALLY ENABLED)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: betta info wanted?
Date: 8 Jan 93 10:28:10 EST

I have recently become interested in betta/siamese fighting fish....I am 
thinking of perhaps breeding them.....but would also appreciate any/all
general info. also....I have three decent size males a one small female..
I had two females...but one died after about a week...the females seem
hard to locate for purchase and hard to keep.....please help!!!!!
thanx
gale
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: seove@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (ERIC OVERTON)
Subject: [F] Troubled Gar Pike.  Help.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: 11 Jan 1993 09:58 EST  

I just added a Gar to my tank the other day and it's behaving strangely.  He
just floats at the top of the water.  He doesn't have any trouble swimming or
diving though.  I thought it may be a swim bladder problem but I'm not sure. I
understand that the swim bladder of a gar is different than that of other fish
(an auxiliary breathing organ).  It hasn't eaten for several days.   

Need help.  

Thanks.

Eric
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From: drchambe@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Dennis Chamberlin)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,sci.aquaria
Subject: Re: [M] Firefish
Date: 11 Jan 93 19:43:12 GMT
Reply-To: drchambe@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Dennis Chamberlin)
Followup-To: rec.aquaria
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1993Jan11.171210.29159@athena.mit.edu> glee@athena.mit.edu (Gilbert Huppert) writes:
>Yesterday night I bought a firefish (or fire goby) and added it to
>my 55 G mini-reef tank.  It seemed to be OK for about the first 
>hour, but then my pair of percula clown fish found it...
>they seemed to hate the firefish with a passion.  They began attacking
>it together,  ...
>
>Has anyone else seen clown fish attacking a firefish?  I expected that

Sorry to hear this, as I have a firefish about to graduate from quarantine
into my 55 fish tank which has a healthy percula. It also contains a heniochus
and a black molly. The molly does cannon fodder and filter maintenance duty
in my quarantine tank, but I temporarily had him in the 55 while I quarantined
the firefish. 

The percula is probably twice the size he was when new, and in the last three
weeks I've noticed he seems to be getting occasional chunks out of the 
mollie's tail. He also feeds pretty aggressively. I guess I didn't expect
this aggression from a percula.

Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
Subject: NYC Area: For Sale: Albino Oscars,Gold Severum, etc
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:07:34 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

NEW YORK CITY AREA:

FOR SALE: Slightly negotiable



Pair Albino Oscars (aprox 10" each).................$70.00 pair

Golden Severum (red eyes)...........................$50.00

Pair Mating Convicts................................$20.00

30 gallon tank......................................$20.00

Send e-mail if interested. paul@panix.com or call 718/636-8072




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From: as789@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Francisco J. Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Albino Oscar problem
Date: 7 Jan 1993 10:15:31 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


 Hello All! I have an Albino Oscar in my tank but lately I have
had a little problem with it...Won't eat at all! I have tried all
sorts of meals and still he won't eat. I even put a heater in the
tank since it's getting kind of cold down here but he still won't
eat. He appears to be in some sort of a sad mod, always satys in a
corner of the tank, won't move all day long and won't eat either.
Cab someone help me out? I haven't seen any kind of disease or
parasites on him at all...Help! Thanx! :-)
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Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria,sci.aquaria
From: mwerling@woodstock.umd.edu (Michael T. Werling)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: (M) Book reccomendations
Summary: Good marine reference (for fish)
Date: 6 Jan 93 17:21:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

Being a beginner marine fish keeper, I was wondering what people's favorite
fish reference books are.  I have Moe's handbook and have read parts of 
his reference manual, and I am now looking for something that gives good
descriptions of fish (habits, food, etc.).  Right now I am looking at getting
an Axelrod's mini atlas, but I have not set my mind on it.

If possible include ISBN with the Title/Author, since I will be ordering
from a local book store.

Thanks for any help you can give.

Mike

e-mail me at mwerling@umd5.umd.edu


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