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From: dcable@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dan Cable)
Subject: Re: What makes a computer "exciting"..?
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 22:49:36 GMT

Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:

>[ thoughtful but somewhat wordy stuff deleted ] 8 ) 
>So, what is it that makes a computer "exciting"...?

Should one's choice of computer(s) be an emotional issue? I am forced to
agree with you that it is. "New" is what makes a computer "exciting". New
peripherals, new programs, new experiences of sight and sound. Newfound
functionality. This is what drives the ever upward spiral of processor
speeds and graphics resolutions. How many people really need 66mhz? For what?
How many things do you need to do that couldn't adequately be done on an 8
bit machine? I'm sure there are some but not many. Perhaps Atari's
salvation will be that they will market cans of "new computer smell" to
stimulate the users olfactory senses until Falcons arrive to tempt us with
new sights and sounds.

Please accept my opinions on this matter in the light they were given even
if the original question was thought provoking.

--
dcable@nyx.cs.du.edu
From: lehmann@cs.tamu.edu (Mark A Lehmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: MiNT and MINIX file system
Date: 4 Jan 1993 05:01:53 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: photon.tamu.edu
Summary: Questions about the MINIX file system
Keywords: MINIX, MiNT, file, system

Well I finally installed the MiNT distribution kit.  I had to do it 
manually.  I think that I had the MINIX file system working too.  I 
placed the file "MINIX.XFS" in the root directory of my boot drive "C:\"
and I got the message that the MINIX file system was active.

I then wipe everything about under normal TOS by simply copying a 
file to the partition that stores the MINIX partition.

My questions are:

   What do I do to prevent TOS writing onto the MINIX file system when
MiNT is not active?

   I am supposed to be able to make large file names with MiNT and MINIX?
I could'nt find a UNIX like program that would let me have more than the
TOS sized file names.  When I did "touch thisisamintfile" the system locked
up.  No error messages.  Maybe the program could be slow, but I waited about
10 minutes for it to complete.  I thought that "touch" would be extremely 
fast.

   Use the ICDFMT.PRG partition program, what should I set in the "TYPE"
field.  I know that in real MINIX I should somehow make the partition
unavailable to TOS only.  How do I make a partition MiNT accessable and
not TOS accessable?

System Information: TOS 1.0 / 4Mb RAM / 193 Mbyte hard drive / ICD controller
/ 1 embedded SCSI drive / 1 Adaptec RLL drive / Empty AUTO folder / No 
Accessories except TOSWIN when running MiNT

Does anyone know is TOS 2.06 is a good system for running MiNT?  I want
to either get TOS 2.06 or NeoDesk 3.x.  My TOS 1.0 and NeoDesk 2.05 
combination just doesn't cut it.

Does anyone know is Universal Item Selector III is supposed to work with
MiNT?  I have tried many kinds of AUTO folder combinations to get UIS III
to work, but the configuration usually bombs upon the first call of the
Item Selector.
--
Mark Lehmann                      Senior Texas A&M University
lehmann@cs.tamu.edu               UPE Honor Society - Vice President
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: swanee@megadata.mega.oz.au (Geoff Swan)
Subject: A little story from OZ
Keywords: atari, ST
Organization: Megadata P/L, North Ryde, Sydney, Aust.
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 23:16:02 GMT


A little story from down-under ...

A friend of mine who deals in computers (PC clones, ataris and amigas)
had someone come to him last week with a 520STFM that had the 1MB
upgrade and was working OK except for the floppy which needed replacing.
My friend gave him a quote to fit a double-sided floppy to his machine
for A$100. This guy ummm'd and arrr'd for a while and then said that
if my friend gave him A$60 he could have the machine. He ended up
refusing the deal because apparently you just can't unload atari machines
here anymore, even if you give them away!

    Sla/n go fo/ill,
                    Risky B.
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Megadata Pty Ltd                     /      \ 
2/37 Waterloo Rd, North Ryde,        \_.--._/               +61 2 805 0899
NSW 2113, Australia.                       v          (Fax) +61 2 887 4847

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: ah334@yfn.ysu.edu (Sherry Mackiewicz)
Subject: Re: Falcon030, resolutions, TRUE color, and DSP
Reply-To: ah334@yfn.ysu.edu (Sherry Mackiewicz)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 04:32:33 GMT


In a previous article, renfro@crchh610.BNR.CA (Randy Hoekstra) says:

>In article <72179@cup.portal.com>, Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
>|>The point that seems to be universally missed here is that if
>|>someone decides that they want to use a computer *NOW*, instead
>|>of waiting for the ever present Atari "RSN", they CAN do it..
>|> 
>Around 7 years ago I bought my 'real' computer (1040ST) and have been happily
>'using' it ever since.  I have since upgraded to a Mega and have added-on to
>the best my budget could handle and the ST continues to be a perfectly
>acceptable solution to my computing needs.  It's a good thing that PC prices
>have fallen to the point they have, as they need all that 'power', ram, and
>disk space to get anything done.
>
>You can also add me to the list of people who are getting real tired of your
>negative, bitter, and personal attacks on Atari and others who post here.
>Granted that Atari has it's problems and has made more than it's share of 
>mistakes, others have made plenty of mistakes too.  There is no perfect
>computer just as there is no perfect software, etc.,etc.  The fact is, many
>of us reading this newsgroup do so because we like and support the Atari
>platform and we do not enjoy the continual badgering from you.  Dave Bagget 
>has a legitimate beef with Atari and I appreciate his view on that situation,
>but I am tired of you riding his coat-tails on his dealings with Atari.  Why
>don't you go deal with them and then come tell us about it.
>
>In the meantime can we please stick to worthwhile information that will help
>those of us who have decided to make the most out of our STs (and eventually
>our Falcons).
>
>Randy
I agree.  We all know that Atari as a company performs in a lousy way..
But since we all know that, why blather on about it?
Sorry about the length, I have no idea how this quoter works...


>                                     
>

-- 
Atari is a religion.
Welcome to the 90's.
Sherry ||| Mackiewicz
      / | \
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Subject: About that $185 386 motherboard
Reply-To: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Organization: Health Computer Sciences, U of MN, Mpls
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 19:08:01 GMT

How did you manage to fit it into the MegaST case?

- DPZ
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization:  One of these days for sure
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Subject: Re: Need Miracle Piano-type software
	<1992Dec21.113142.224@janus.arc.ab.ca>
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:54:26 -0800
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In <1992Dec21.113142.224@janus.arc.ab.ca> erkamp@janus (Bob Erkamp) writes:

>In article <mbernar-151292192837@macnet2_03.erenj.com>, mbernar@erenj.com (Marcelino Bernardo) writes:

>I believe that Midi-Mouse is no longer in business. I have their software (Chord 
>Magic, Note Wizard, Scale Master). It's not bad but nothing great either. A 
>friend of mine bought a copy of Note Wizard and it wouldn't work. He tried to 
>get in touch with Midi-Mouse and had no luck whatsoever. I tried every piece of
>copy software/hardware that I had access to and was unable to make a workable 
>copy for him from mine. He was not impressed. It has strange copy protection
>requiring that the key disk be in the drive when you run it (from the hard 
>drive) and this key disk CANNOT BE WRITE PROTECTED or it won't work.

	A friend of mine used to have his software distributed by Midi
Mouse, and actually developed that copy protection. It's a laser hole on
the disk, and the program tries to write to the damaged sector, and if
it can, won't run. I don't know about the other authors who had programs
distributed by Midi Mouse, but my friend does not speak highly of them,
and had to have a lawyer phone them to get them to stop selling copies
of his software after their contract expired.

-- 

 "If Rush fans were braindead, why are there so   Bruce Bufalini
 many people posting to alt.music.rush?"              PSU
From: geoffc@zebedee.uucp (Geoffrey Coan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization: Geoffrey Coan (disorganisation)
Subject: Kosten
Keywords: Kosten - how to use it
Reply-To: geoffc@zebedee.uucp
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.03 Rev. Apr 14 1992
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 1993 21:13:22 GMT
X-Charset: iso-8859-1

Does anyone know how to use the kosten program posted with Hermes, or
what it does ?

My german isn't good enough to understand the readme posted with it, but
I managed to work out from running it that I needed the LOGDIR environment
variable set to the directory where my uucico log file is.  Having done this
I get the following output:

Kostenauswertung fr die Hermes UUCP Software
V. 1.0,   1991, by Christian Reisel
V. 1.1.2, 1992, by Michael Bongartz
Problem: Das Logfile UUCICO enthaelt keine Tarifzonentabelle.
Bitte tragen Sie folgende Zeile als erst ein das Lofile ein:
TARIFZONEN: <Sek. zum Billigtarif> <Sek. im Normaltarif> 

Help ?

Geoffrey

-- 
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well all right then, if you say so ...   ..!uunet!ibmpcug!jshark!zebedee!geoffc
From: tevans@unislc.uucp (Terry Evans)
Subject: Wanted: Ram and faster mother board.
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 16:45:23 GMT


I am looking to upgrade my Mega2 ST to 4 megs ram and a faster cpu.
I am thinking of getting the 030 cpu.  I would appreciate it if you could
lend any information about where I can get the above items and at what
prices.  (Used is okay also.)

Thanks in advance!

tevans@cs.utah.edu
From: abaddon@uk.ac.liverpool.scm.suprenum (Kevin o donovan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon030, resolutions, TRUE color, and DSP
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:53:32 GMT
	<1h0eelINNeqh@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
	<1h2r5bINNqv5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,<1992Dec21.013725.5791@cc.umontreal.ca>
	<1h4ro8INN5cp@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Organization: Centre for Mathematical Software Research, Univ. Liverpool, UK

>And some people have told me, "You want great games?  Get an Amiga 1200!"
How about someone writing an A500 emulator for the Falcon? Then I could finally
play a decent version of Battletech (Mech Warrior) on my Atari.

Kev
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
Subject: Re: Game Workbench
Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:49:52 GMT

In article p@rpi.edu, oyakea@warren1a.its.rpi.edu (Amalaye Oyake) writes:
>
> I recently read a reply from a Mr. Bob_BobR_Retelle, when I asked questions
>concerning Game Workbench, and what it means to the common st user like me
>
.. stuff deleted ...

>I would really like to know how Mr. Bagget feels about this.
Why not ask him?  Dave is at dmb@case.ai.mit.edu

>How atari employees who frequent the net feel about this.
Very few Atari employees, if any, frequent the Internet anymore.

>Ataris position on game workbench ( did we ever get thier opinion )
Atari wasn't enthused, according to Dave's visit to Atari HQ.

>And if this product will be available 
Game Workbench is *not* dead, only delayed due to troubles at DC.
My guess is that the public will see Game Workbench, in one form or another
in the not-too-distant future. ;-)
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________________ "No worries, mate... it's from Fair Dinkum!" _______________
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From: mppi76@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Schoenfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Demo-makers
Date: 2 Jan 1993 15:52:48 +0100
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de

ggranger@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Greg Granger) writes:

>Are there any Demo-maker programs for the ST?  I know that a few exist 
>for the Amiga (just by reading thru COMP.SYS.AMIGA.DEMOS), but I don't 
>own an Amiga.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

If you mean a program to demonstrate a own program automatically
(automatic mouse-move and so on), then there is ATARI's DEMONSTRATOR.
It's included into the developers tools. If you aren't one, write
to ATARI.
-- 
Harald Schoenfeld (hs@cnve.rrze.uni-erlangen.dbp.de)
From: ritz@ritz.mordor.com (Christopher Mauritz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: So what does this mean to us ?
Date: 23 Dec 92 02:33:53 GMT
Organization: Ritz International, Inc. -- Import/Export Consultants
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Jan T. Kim (aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de) wrote:
OS/2> In <72174@cup.portal.com> Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
OS/2> 
OS/2> >Mark Hughes writes some stuff:
OS/2> 
OS/2> >>I discovered that replacing my ST with another decent system, 
OS/2> >>without taking any sacrifices (pathetic sound and OS on the PCs, weird OS 
OS/2> >>and incompatibility on the Mac (not to mention their expense), etc.), I 
OS/2> >>had to go up to a NeXT.
OS/2> 
OS/2> >Wow.. now THERE's an open mind for you..  too bad you didn't
OS/2> >actually take a good look at what else is available in the world.
OS/2> 
OS/2> >In addition to the terrific sound and operating systems on PCs,
OS/2> >and the smooth operating system on Macs, you also get the
OS/2> >advantages of support from the company that made your computer,
OS/2> >AND the not inconsequential benefit of wonderful software support
OS/2> >from developers who are *happy* to be in the market.
OS/2> 
OS/2> You may well be able to claim that there are excellent  operating
OS/2> systems  for  PCs,  no  problem so far. However, MS DOS, Windows,

Try OS/2, it works just fine for me.  When that doesn't work, I fire
up Coherent or linux for a unix environment (with X windows) all on
my lowly 486.

OS/2> Windows NoThanx etc. are not among them. Regarding Macs,  if  you
OS/2> say  their  OS  is  smooth you must have taken a very superficial
OS/2> look at it. I agree, the OS "looks and feels"  rather  neat,  but
OS/2> beyond that surface there are nightmares and loads of weird stuff
OS/2> buried. Beware.

More than TOS???  Hehe, let's get some perspective here.  MacOS is
a dream compared to the daggers you'll find hidden all over TOS.

OS/2> Also, remember that there are a lot of  different  things  pepole
OS/2> may  want to do with their computer. If someone just wants to run
OS/2> a word processor, a spreadsheet and a graphics program, he can do
OS/2> that on a PC running Windows or on a Mac, despite all the horrors
OS/2> buried in them. Even more, a Mac or PC may actually suit  such  a
OS/2> person's  need  better  than an Atari. But if someone wants to do
OS/2> some programming too, he will probably be much better off with an
OS/2> Atari.

And use what development tools?

Cheers,

Chris

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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: So what does this mean to us ?
Date: 23 Dec 92 00:01:09 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett) writes:

>I look at the Falcon and the new Amiga machines, and I don't see
>anything revolutionary.  (Tossing in a DSP isn't enough, especially
>when it should have been a TI34010 graphics coprocessor instead.)

The DSP is a sound processor, making the Falcon very attractive to
musicians.  And Dave already told us how other machines had captivated
the graphics market.


--
Warwick
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From: ggranger@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Greg Granger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Demo-makers
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 12:19:00 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Are there any Demo-maker programs for the ST?  I know that a few exist 
for the Amiga (just by reading thru COMP.SYS.AMIGA.DEMOS), but I don't 
own an Amiga.  Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Subject: Re: I am NOT making this up, OK?  (was Re: Closed ... <ho hum>)
Reply-To: davidli@simvax.labmed.umn.edu
Organization: Health Computer Sciences, U of MN, Mpls
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:46:55 GMT

In article <72175@cup.portal.com>, Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com writes:
>So.. your real world experience in dealing with medical
>software companies has absolutely nothing at all to do with
>dealing with Atari Corp.

Bullshit.  How one engages in business is applicable across the board, whether
the company you're dealing with wants to succeed or (in your estimation)
whether they want to fail.  I don't NEED to deal with Atari Corporation in
order to know what standards I set for myself with regard to business meetings.
I don't NEED to personally deal with Atari Corporation in order to know that if
I don't have a clear set of goals going into a business meeting, I am surely
not going to come out of that meeting having met any goals.  I don't NEED to
deal with Atari Corporation to have enough sense to ask for an agenda and a
list of the people with whom I am going to meet.

Your suggestion that one has to have dealt directly with Atari before one is
capable of issuing any judgement upon practical business tactics is ludicrous.

Your assertion that until I have actually dealt with Atari I am in no position
to state how I WOULD deal with Atari is yet another example of the extent your
apparent PERSONAL hatred for that particular corporation extends.

-- David Paschall-Zimbel
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization:  One of these days for sure
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In <afonseca.2uzw@terapin.com> afonseca@terapin.com (Alberto Fonseca) writes:

>Hi, I want to know what the BEST game for the STE out there is so far.. I'm
>looking for something that can keep me happy for a while.. A good, possibly
>adventure/arcade type game, or a really good adventure.  I don't buy many
>games, so I don't know whats out there.. Whats a real good one?

	One of the best games for the STe I know of would be Captive. I
don't have an STe, but a friend who does says the stereo sound effects
add a lot to the game.  It'll definately keep you going for a long time,
if you decide to try to play it to the end, but it starts to get pretty
same-like after about 20 levels. Each 10th level is basically a complete
round, so you can finish at anytime you feel like. Knightmare is also
good, as of course, is Dungeon Master and Chaos Strikes Back,
appearantly available now as a set for cheap. 
	One of the newest games available that is getting a lot of raves
from the few game players left on the ST is Amberstar, which is a good
copy of all the best parts of the Ultima games, with a lot of tricky
puzzles thrown in. It's also the start of a trilogy, so once you finish
the first, there'll be more to come.
	On another note, the latest ST Gamers Digest reports Mindscape has
dropped the ST. Has anyone in Britain heard what this means to the
expected release of Captive II, as this was due out on Mindscape?


-- 

 "If Rush fans were braindead, why are there so   Bruce Bufalini
 many people posting to alt.music.rush?"              PSU
From: dmb@case.ai.mit.edu (David Baggett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: I am NOT making this up, OK?  (was Re: Closed ... <ho hum>)
Date: 29 Dec 1992 07:56:33 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: case.ai.mit.edu

In article <27DEC92.05003748@meena.cc.uregina.ca> mackie@meena.cc.uregina.ca writes:
>Why would Atari invite you to a meeting to show off something that they were
>obviously interested in, only to treat you the way you've described?

That is an *excellent* question, isn't it?  The only way to know is to
ask someone REALLY in charge there; for example, the Lynx programmers.

Dave Baggett
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From: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon030, resolutions, TRUE color, and DSP
Date: 21 Dec 1992 08:10:55 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Dec21.013725.5791@cc.umontreal.ca>, kosmatoo@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Kosmatos Odisseas) writes:
>In article <1h2r5bINNqv5@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa399@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Len Stys) writes:
>
>>Ed, I can buy a 386 DX 25 MHz clone with an 85 meg HD, 8 expansion slots,
>>a 3.5" 1.4 meg drive, a 5.25" 1.2 meg drive, and a SVGA monitor for
>>$799.
>
>My guess is this $799 mix-n-match computer you mention has many shortcomings.
>
>You have overlooked too many things. For one, the Falcon with it's Multitos
>should run quite smoothly. I have heard the opposite claim many times for
>386 PC's using windows. The Falcon is also a COMPLETE  computer with quite
>some performance in many respects. That's the edge.


>=*=        Odisseas Kosmatos       =*=  "Cul bien vide, tete plein d'idees."
>=*=    kosmatoo@jsp.umontreal.ca   =*=
>=*= shammer@mafalda.math.mcgill.ca =*=


Well the are a few 'does it have' that seemed to be left out...

Does it have a good dealer support network..??

Does it have county wide service..??

Does it have a range of books, technical or software to support it...???

Does it have a good range of software support..??


Come on chaps, no more Computer Jokes here Please, lets be real....??


Roger................        sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: STReport???
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 1 Jan 1993 21:06:06 GMT
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

That message seems pretty much correct!