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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD
From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 17:49:22 GMT
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac

In article <By5vKH.EwM@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod) writes:

>Word for windows can do anything that WordPerfect, VI or Emacs can do,
>and yet the interface is crystal clear and easy.

You forgot SLOW :-)

I installed W4W on my 286/20 a few years' back, and loved it... until I grew
weary of waiting everytime I wanted to do something besides write. I
installed WP 5.1, which I didn't (and don't) like, but it is still the wp of
choice for anyone using the old machine, and W4W just sits there, wasting
several megs of useful storage.

Now, a 286/20 may not be the epitome of speed, but a slouch it is not...
until you run any Windows application. Bletch.

Just before I closed my consultancy office, and gave the 286 to my
granddaughter, Microsoft sent me v1.1 of W4W as a dealer demo. It arrived
about two months after the release of v2.0, which was, if nothing else, an
elegant statement regarding the speed of W4W rather than the courier service
used to deliver it - major points to Microsoft for their consistency :-)


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: bhays@teal.csn.org (Boyd Hays)
Subject: Any terminfo compilers available?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:27:30 GMT

Hello,
    I need to write a program that parses terminfo source files. There was
    something available about 5 years ago, a small lex scanner, but I can't
    find it anywhere.

    Does anyone know where I might find the source for such a beast?

Thanks in advance,

Boyd Hays
bhays@csn.org


Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: a1001032@cdf.toronto.edu (Fiona Wong)
Subject: Re: Unaccessible files, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!
Organization: University of Toronto Computing Disciplines Facility
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:44:52 GMT

In article <BxqvJx.J0G@umassd.edu> rolls@cis.umassd.edu (Frank Pinto) writes:
>Hello all
>Recently, while I was connected to school via my MAC
>from home, apparently I got disconnected , however, 
>I believe that some of the signal from the line
>created files in my directory.
>They have wierd names, eg. vH?
>t){}8uUytR99*-)]09)9ll08k, etc
>I've tried deleted them, but the system says
>It can not access them, I tried to move them into a dummy
>dir. , no avail.
>How do I Delete them?
>Also, what does it means for a file to be called with
>the following:  #filename#  , char "#" surrounding it?
>
>Thanks in advance
>
>Frank Pinto

Can "rm -i *" work?

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Fiona.

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You cannot tell the he from the she.	But she can tell, and so can he.
The little bee is never still.		She has no time to take the pill.
And that is why, in times like these.	There are so many sons of bees.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.sysv386
From: bobd@marune.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bob DeBula)
Subject: Re: How does a mortal become a UNIX WIZARD ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:06:19 GMT

In article <1jXG9Y#4gNr9z4Kf9KP7pcFqk7GFB9w=esr@snark.thyrsus.com> esr@snark.thyrsus.com (Eric S. Raymond) writes:
>In <1992Nov19.001512.72408@slate.mines.colorado.edu> Ade Barkah wrote:
>> 
>> What does it take for a man, er, person, to become a Unix Wizard ?
>
>Oh, Nobly Born: know that the Way to Wizardhood is long, and winding,
>and fraught with Peril.  Thou must Attune thyself with the Source, 
		  ^^^^^
		  Shouldn't that be "Perl"?

		  Sorry, couldn't resist..... :-)
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From: bruce@head-cfa.harvard.edu (Bruce Sams)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: lib77 "flush" call. Where is it in UNIX?
Date: 17 Nov 92 12:23:03 GMT
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

Dear fellow UNIX and HP-UX folks,

   I am trying to bring up the graphics package MONGO on our HP-720 machine
   and I have encountered a problem.  It seems that MONGO uses a "flush"
   call deep in its IO guts.  Looking through all the HP-UX libraries I 
   find no such routine.  Rather, I find "pflushli", "flushinp", "intrflush",
   "__cflush", "fflush", and "fflush_p."  Some of these are clearly not
   what I want, but others are less certainly wrong.  I find no documentation
   for any of these readily available.  How do I proceed?  Has anybody out
   there installed MONGO under HP-UX?

Cheers,

Lowell Tacconi-Garman
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: lie6@ellis.uchicago.edu (Jonathan Lieberman)
Subject: How to make trn append .sig to mailed responses?
Reply-To: lie6@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: The University of Chicago
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:50:18 GMT

I'm sure this is trivial, but I couldn't find in in the man pages...
How do you make trn append the .signature in mailed responses to articles.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: fjh@munta.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Fergus James HENDERSON)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:32:55 GMT

papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod) writes:

>Word for windows can do anything that WordPerfect, VI or Emacs can do

I find that VERY hard to believe.
Regular expression search and replace?
Pipe any section of a file through an arbitrary process?
Delete up to a specified character in just 3 keystrokes?
... just to name a few.

-- 
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This .signature virus is a self-referential statement that is true - but 
you will only be able to consistently believe it if you copy it to your own
.signature file!
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: Phillip Godwin <cmpsg03@nt.com>
Subject: text search software
X-Xxdate: Wed, 18 Nov 92 09:42:25 GMT
Organization: Northern Telecom
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:40:12 GMT

I am working on an UNIX-based application (running on HP 400 and 700 
series workstations) that will among other things allow a user to 
search a large number of text files for a string.  We had planned
to parse grep output for the needed search result information, 
but grep is just too slow.

What we are looking for is a text search program (commercial or 
shared) that we can call from within our application.  Does anyone
out there have any experience with UNIX searching software?  I
would just like to get an idea of what is out there and then follow
up on any interesting leads.

If you can help, please email cmpsg03@nt.com.

Thanks...Phil
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From: harley@engrhub.ucsb.edu (Harley Hahn)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: IS UNIX DEAD? (15)
Date: 23 Nov 92 07:37:31 GMT

This is number 15 in a series of 22 responses to the question:
 
What do you think about the Byte magazine cover that asked:
IS UNIX DEAD?
 
(moderated by Harley Hahn)
 
----------
From: nobody@kodak.com (Brian K. Talley)
Brian Talley, Systems Consultant, Eastman Kodak Research Labs, 
Rochester, NY talley@acadia.kodak.com
 
I found the cover to be annoying at best.  It *prevented* me from 
buying the magazine - I was angry, and didn't want to contribute 
to a group intent on convincing those unaware that Unix is dying 
out (so it appeared, anyway).
 
I have been unimpressed with Byte since it became primarily 
dedicated to IBM and MS, which has been for quite some time.  
They have failed the community of computer users by not reporting 
on alternative computing platforms and operat-ing systems 
repeatedly, and when they do make a report, they imply it is 
dying out.
 
My impression is that many a "technically-challenged" :) 
execudroid will read this and think "Hmmm...once NT is out, 
that'll mean the end of Unix completely" which is, of course, 
untrue. This theory can be supported by way of example: your 
editor friend at McGraw-Hill, who admittedly knows little about 
computers, but knows enough that Byte is an authoritative journal 
on computing (which it is not, of course), wonders about the 
success of a book on Unix based on the contents of a magazine 
article.
 
Because I have not actually read the article, I cannot make 
comments on it. I can only say that the cover was offensive 
(because it implies something untrue) and I'd agree with your 
assessment that it's on a par with (or below) "Is Elvis 
alive...".
 
I'm sorry I don't have the time to express professionally and 
eloquently my true feelings towards Byte, and specifically the 
cover of the latest issue.
 
==========
 
Xref: sparky comp.unix.questions:13697 comp.speech:279 comp.unix.aux:4088
From: weed@venus.ycc.yale.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,comp.speech,comp.unix.aux
Subject: Blind undergraduate needs information
Date: 20 Nov 92 01:21:02 GMT
Organization: Yale Computer Center (YCC)

I am a blind student, here at Yale, who is realizing that my current computing
environment will not be powerful enough for my needs at graduate school, which
I expect to attend for the next four-six years.  My primary need (in terms of
high-speed computing), is for a machine which can carry out OCR (optical
character recognition), quickly and efficiently.  I have been scanning up to
10,000 pages of material per semester while I have been here, and think it
likely that this will increase markedly at grad school.  I don't have the time
to lose on scanning while I'm there, but I do need the ability to do my own
scanning, depending on the technology available at whatever university I
finally end up attending.  It appears that my needs may outstrip the quadra
line of macintoshes (both currently available, and expected in the next six
months), which suggests to me the need to look toward either an aux-based
macintosh environment or a straight unix machine such as a small spark station,
or the new DEC machines.
My questions are:
1.  What OCR software is available for unix-based computers?
2.  Are there good speech synthesizers available for these machines, and if so,
are they hardware-or-software based?
3.  What kind of money am I looking at spending for a computer able to
outperform the 33 MHZ-68:040-baased quadras currently available?
4.  What companies specialize in small unix-capable stations like the new DEC
Alpha?
Any information available out there will be *very* much appreciated, as all of
my work is done on scanned material, so I need to begin trying to make as
informed a decision as is possible.
Matt Weed
From: tawfig@.cs.pitt.edu.cs.pitt.edu (& Alrabiah)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: disable 'w' command
Date: 22 Nov 92 04:05:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: blue.10035
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

Any one can use 'w' command to find out what you are working on.

So is there any way to stop people from finding out what I am working on ?

				   
Tawfi
From: fekoprt@uts.uni-c.dk (FEK print)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Can telnetd preserve environment ? Can I get one that does ?
Keywords: telnetd, environ
Date: 18 Nov 92 19:18:31 GMT
Organization: UNI-C, Danish Computing Centre for Research and Education

Preamble: The system is SCO unix 3.2.2.

Can anyone tell me, if I can get telnetd to preserve it's start-up env.
var.s?  What I'm trying to do is this: /etc/wrapper is small program, that
will read the peer-address of its input-socket, set an env.var. (say IP) to
that adress, and then exec its arguments.  Thus when I put:

telnet stream tcp    nowait  NOLUID /etc/wrapper telnetd

in inetd.conf, it ought to make the IP available to telnetd and all of its
children (login, sh).

But no.  No matter what I try, my IP gets lost somewhere.  I have som kind 
of hint, that login will destroy most of its env. unless started with a -p
option, but how can I do that (since telnetd starts login, the way *it* damn
pleases)?

Maybe im doing this the wrong way; Can I get the sources for a telnet that
will report it's IP-adresse. and perhaps make it available for the subsequent
processes?

((Gripe: I don't really understand why telnetd doesn't care *anything* for
it's peer adress, but takes great pain to report terminal device id.  IMHO
the latter thing is very maginally useful, but the peer address is handy
for determining login terminal characteristics a.s.o.  I'm aware, that 
terminals were once hardwired, but *dammit* that's ages ago.) Sorry about that)
From: brianm@meaddata.com (Brian Montgomery)
Subject: mapping extended keyboard keys in vi/ksh
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:39:56 GMT
Distribution: oh

hi netters,
       I need your expertise in vi to help figure out this problem.

I want to map the extended keyboard to some macros in vi.  

Like for example I want to map the 
pageup key to  
pagedown key to  
home   key to :1G
end    key to :G


Another problem is mapping of the arrow keys. 

I use the kornshell and I would like to map the arrow keys to 
up arrow to k
down arrow to j
right arrow to l
left arrow to h


Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Emailing me your responses would be a good idea
as I don't frequent the net often. I will summarise and post , if
I get enough requests (> 10).

Thanks in advance 
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: dold@unislc.uucp (Clarence Dold)
Subject: Re: How do I increase number of screen rows?
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:59:07 GMT

From article <1992Nov19.004712.28116@fwi.uva.nl>, by hm@fwi.uva.nl (Hans Mulder):
> In <lux.721768908@sol.UVic.CA> lux@sol.UVic.CA (Michael O'Henly) writes:

>>    I want to increase the number of rows displayed by things like
>>emacs and nn from 24 to 35.

> You need to say "stty rows 35 columns 80" (or whatever).

Or maybe LINES=35 COLUMNS=132 export LINES COLUMNS

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From: snolan@postmaster@hq.af.mil (Scott D Nolan)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: grep
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:45:52 GMT
Reply-To: snolan@marge.hq.af.mil
Organization: 7th Communications Group

|> |> >Actually it's Global Regular Expression Parser.
|> |> I thought it meant Gorns Rarely Eat People...
|> Grazing Rabbits Excrete Pellets
Geraldo Rates Exhibitionist Perverts
-- 
Consistency is the hobgoblin of small minds.

			- Ralph Waldo Emerson
From: maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J L Saunders)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Reading in single characters from stdin
Date: 22 Nov 92 15:14:25 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1en5ffINN1ue@cumin.csv.warwick.ac.uk> cstaddc@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr M A Stuart) writes:
%
%
%	How can I read in characters from stdin and save the in a variable for
%processing as single entities ?
%
%
%	Any suggestions ?
%
%
%Mark. (cstaddc@uk.ac.warwick)

If you want to do this from within C, I'd #include <curses.h>, and use the
cusrses routines cbreak() and nocbreak(). Alternatively, you can #include
<sgtty.h>, and then use the following routines. In fact, it's probably better
to use these, unless you're going to use the rest of curses.

What you'd do is call cbreakon(), then use getchar() to return a single
character. So your code would be something like...

inputroutine() {
char inputchar;

  cbreakon();
  inputchar=getchar();

  whatever else you want to do...

  cbreakoff();
}

cbreakon()
{
  	struct sgttyb terminal;

  	if ( ioctl (0, TIOCGETP, &terminal) ) return ( -1 );
  	terminal.sg_flags |= CBREAK;
  	if ( ioctl (0, TIOCSETP, &terminal) ) return ( -1 );
	return ( 0 );
}


cbreakoff()
{
	struct sgttyb terminal;

  	if ( ioctl (0, TIOCGETP, &terminal) ) return ( -1 );
  	terminal.sg_flags &= ~CBREAK;
  	if ( ioctl (0, TIOCSETP, &terminal) ) return ( -1 );
	return ( 0 );
}
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: swolfson@nyx.cs.du.edu (Sabina Wolfson)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD (long)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 02:49:26 GMT

peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser) writes:
>rm72@prism.gatech.EDU (Robert B. McCullough) writes:
>
>>MY opinion like or not--DOS BLOWS!! Girlie OS.
>
>I agree.

I'm offended.

MY opinion like or not--DOS BLOWS!! Little penis OS.
From: mandel@litp.ibp.fr (Arnaldo MANDEL)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: What full-screen file managers are there?
Date: 17 Nov 92 09:01:45 GMT
Organization: Chaos
Full-Name: Arnaldo MANDEL

In article <1992Nov16.223340.15353@mccc.edu> pjh@mccc.edu (Pete Holsberg) writes:

> In article <1e4mbcINN1kh@crcnis1.unl.edu> pkramer@unlinfo.unl.edu (Paul Kramer) writes:
> =Hello,
> =
> =I found while reading articles in this electronic conference, a 
> =reference to a public-domain program called utree.  It is full-screen 
> =file manager which allows you to perform file functions with single 
> =keystrokes.  For example, after I start the program I see a screen 
> =that lists the files on my account.  If I want to delete one of those 
> =files I move the cursor on top of it, press a certain key.  Boom it 
> =gone!  
> =
> =Well I am wondering:  Is there anything better than utree?  I am aware
> =of a program called 'maint' but it doesn't have the full functionality
> =of 'utree'.

> I prefer HDSCAN.

Better go all the way and get emacs, with tree-dired.  You not only get all
funtions most file managers execute, but you can add some of your own.  And
then, this would be just the beginning of using emacs for almost everything,
instead of hundreds of little frozen utilities.
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From: peter@global.hacktic.nl (Peter Busser)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 14:35:17 GMT
Organization: Global Village 1

ioi@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu (Ioi Kim Lam) writes:

>	I believe what the programmer should do is to deliver the power of
>the computer to every user, regardless to their knowledge in computing.
>How good is a powerful application that no one can use?

A system that does everything for everyone is suffering from what is called
creaping featurism. Most systems which suffer from that (many popular DOS apps
like e.g. WP, PC-TOOLS, etc.) are big, slow and hard to use. Another problem
is that different users have different needs. So called end-users run
applications and (often) don't need a powerful shell with pipelines, I/O
redirection, and cryptic commands.

>	If a user finds an application too difficult to use, that is not
>his fault. That is the designer's fault. And believe me, we can correct
>it.

I think you made a good point. However, for *which* user do you design the
app? For instance, the original UNIX shell was designed for programmers and
programmers like it so it was a good design. So the original UNIX stuff isn't
the problem. The problem is that only a few UNIX apps were designed for so
called end-users.

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD? (very long)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:08:47 GMT

>There are heck of a lot of terminals with an F1 key where the F1 key
>does something else than work as a help key.  Like pausing/unpausing
>output to the screen (all of the VT100 and compatible terminals I've
>seen, for instance).
>
>Also, if the only way to get help is by pressing F1 (or Help for that
>matter), you certainly remove support from terminals without such
>keys.  
>
>I don't see any point in hardcoding the help key, or assuming that all
>keyboards will have a suitable key that can be permanently bound for
>such a purpose.  Is there a problem making the system itself to
>different kinds of terminals?  If the terminal changes, the UI should
>adapt itself, instead of assuming that all terminals look and behave
>alike.  Also, the UI should be able to adapt itself to different
>users' preferences: not everybody wants a help key at all (e.g. I
>prefer to have the F1 key bound to other-window in Emacs, since that's
>sometimes easier for me to use than ^XO), and some people prefer it to
>be something else than F1 because they're used to that other key.
>

I have no problem with this "mappable" help key.  It sounds like a great
idea.  

Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: rvdm@oce.nl (Ruurd van der Meer)
Subject: Sun Printserver? IPX-stack available ? NCP documentation ?
Originator: rvdm@st33-sys4
Organization: OCE Nederland B.V.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 92 11:28:19 GMT

I want to have a printserver on a Sun SParc (SunOS 4.1.x, in future Solaris) 
for a Novell environment.  So I have some questions:

Does anybody know if such a product exists ? If not:

Is there an IPX protocol stack on a Sun SParc available, commercial or public 
domain ? If this is in the form of a Netware shell as in DOS, what about
a C-interface for it (to write a printserver)? 

And what about the NCP protocol of Novell? Is this available somewhere ?

Please direct answers to

rvdm@oce.nl

If I have collected the answers I will put them back into the newsgroups.

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From: ratner@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Dave "Van Damme" Ratner)
Subject: How does tell who is posting about "finger"?
Summary: Aack.  Not another "who is fingering me" post
Keywords: Finger
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:29:58 GMT

Given that the inane question of
	"Gee, Unix Gurus of the Net, how do I tell who is fingering me"
never seems to die (use named pipes, read the FAQ, and go away), I think the
more relevant question is:
	"Gee, how do I tell who posts these inane articles and put them
	in my kill file?"
I mean come on, doesn't someone post this question EVERY DAMN WEEK?
Its like some sort of religious cult.  Right now, they are in their
secret hiding place, deciding who will "do the deed" and post the question
tomorrow.  Maybe we should hire Guido, the net-hitman.  
Post the question...take a walk with Guido...in concrete galloshes.

Dave
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