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From: allan_e._levy@uu0570.foggybottom.com
Organization: Foggy Bottom / Washington, D.C.
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 17:36:12 EST
Subject: Re: Mac SE and 14.4k modems

I think you may be better off setting the comm at 19.2, you can lose characters
otherwise.
Foggy Bottom - your FirstClass Mac connection in Washington, DC
From: roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Eudora Support
Date: 14 Dec 1992 17:25:30 GMT
Organization: New York University, School of Medicine
NNTP-Posting-Host: mchip00.med.nyu.edu

drdan@src.honeywell.com writes:
>However, I can't promote Eudora as our in-house standard (that role is
>filled by MS Mail), because I can't make a reasonable guarantee that a year
>from now we won't have to change to a different application because
>---future scenario--- Steve Dorner had to work full time on a make-or-break
>project for Qualcomm and the last version of Eudora was incompatible with
>the version of MacTCP we had to use to be compatible with SNMP.

	Feh!  What makes you think this can't happen with commercial
software?  If every decision you made was based on "what happens if
something changes and I can't 100% guarantee that the whole world will
remain compatable with itself", you'd be reading your mail using PROFS on a
3270.  And pointing to a Microsoft product as an example of software that
you can count on to track newly developing standards strikes me as a bit of
a joke.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Everette Gray Allen <everette_allen@ncsu.edu>
Subject: Re: MAC/UNIX mixed network
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A75611EF58010B13@ccmc6.cc.ncsu.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:15:59 GMT
Organization: NCSU Computing Center
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:15:44 GMT

Subject: MAC/UNIX mixed network
From: Ray, degennar@bmsrs.usc.edu
Date: 10 Dec 1992 15:52:03 -0800
In article <1g8l73INN44m@bmsrs.usc.edu> Ray, degennar@bmsrs.usc.edu
writes:
>We currently have a AppleTalk network consisting of:
>	(2)	Mac IIx's	(acient)
>	(1)	Mac II		(acient)
>	(1)	Mac Plus	(acient)
>	(1)	Mac LC
>	(1)	LaserWriter II	(maybe it's an NTX)
>	(1)	Qume CrystalPrint Express
>and an ethernet network with:
>	(5)	Sparcstation SLC's
>	(2)	Sparcstation 2's
>	(1)	IBM RS6000
>	(1)	Sequent box
>	(2)	Printers 	(I'm not the UNIX guru here)
>
>We will soon be moving to new offices, and we would like to just lay
>cables for just one network and use one of the disks on one of the 
>UNIX boxes as a file server.  We don't however, want to spend a lot
>of money or lose either System 7 filesharing or being able to select
>printers via the chooser.  
>
>Any suggestions?  Please email, and I'll summarize and post.
>
>Ray DeGennaro
>USC Software Systems
>degennar@scf.usc.edu
>
>-- 
>
>Ray (DJ) DeGennaro II
>degennar@bmsrs.usc.edu
You could lay down a "local" ethernet.  By this I mean you could run
thinwire ethernet
cables between all your machines, buy ether net cards ($175ish each,
except $275ish for
scsi for plus) and then run cap on one of your unix machines to control
printing and
file sharing.  Looks like you will need a Etherwrite ($400ish) type box
to get the lazers
and Qume stuff on but total bill should be <$1000 depending on how much
wiring you have 
to do. I hope this helps.  EVerette
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Raoul Schaffner <raoul@inf.eawag.ch>
Subject: MacX 1.1.7 and Sun OpenLook Problem
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A7562ABB75010164@test.emp-eaw.ch>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 17 Dec 92 13:01:47 GMT
Organization: EAWAG
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d14
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:07:05 GMT

I installed MacX 1.1.7 to use my Quadra 700 as XWindow Server for various
XWindow Applications running on our Sun SparcServer. However, as far as the
window manager is concerned, I was not able to load the OpenLook Window
Manager
Version 3. The error message is something like: "unable to load, is there
another window manager running?".

I had to go back to Version 2, which is running quite well, besides the
fact that cmdtool and shelltool do not work. They both don't seem to get
the
right connection to the host, i.e. I get no prompt and no response from
commands. When I want to work with cmdtool, I have to start a terminal
emulator
(Mac340) and issue the command "cmdtool -display <mac.ip.addr>:0.3" to
redirect
the cmdtool input/output to the Window Manager on my Mac.

So here are my three questions:

1. Has anybody else experienced these problems with cmdtool and shelltool?
2. Has anybody managed to run OLWM 3 on MacX 1.1.7?
3. Has anybody successfully launched cmdtool from within MacX instead of
   from the terminal emulator as described above?

Thanks in advance,
Raoul

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From: Steve.Wall@f947.n107.z1.ieee.org (Steve Wall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: SupraFaxModem v.32 upgrade - Silent Answ
Date: 12 Dec 92 01:10:24 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:107/947 - NJMUG BBS, Clark NJ

I called both Supra and STF Technologies about the Silent Answer, and
this I was told that FaxSTF doesn't support Silent Answer right now.
According to STF, they are working on it with very limited success right
now.  They made all the changes specified by Supra to make Silent Answer
work on an unreleased version of FaxST, and yet it refuses to wwork.
They and Supra are investigating.

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 Steve Wall - Internet: Steve.Wall@f947.n107.z1.ieee.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Denis McKeon)
Subject: Re: Source for Supra/v.32bis modem
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 18:18:01 GMT
Organization: Connemara - Computing for People
X-Mailer: Mail User's Shell (7.0.1 12/13/89)
Status: OR

In article <1992Dec15.171733.1@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu> f0975893@jaguar.csc.wsu.edu writes:
>In article <pj-rbdm@lynx.unm.edu>, galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu (Denis McKeon) 
>writes:
>
>>>Supra V.32bis fax modem, latest ROMs
>>>$265 + $7 s&h
>>>No software, no cable.
>>>5 year warranty
>>>
>>>mac1@ra.msstate.edu
>> 
>> I tried calling that guy and he never called back.  Email bounced.  Sigh.
>
>I tried this guy and the response was pretty slow too. 

A few people over on comp.dcom.modems have posted that they bought from
this guy, and were satisfied with the service.  Also, he recently had a
car accident and was in hospital, so response to queries was delayed.

--
Denis McKeon
galway@chtm.eece.unm.edu

QED: Quit and Eat Dinner
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: Jim_Johns@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 21:22:21 EST
Subject: Re: Smartcom II offer ?

Concerning comments by Bill Coleman (bcoleman@hayes.com,Internet)

How nice to receive such an *author*itative response to my question about the 
Smartcom II upgrade offer.  I have received a variety of responses, most of
which have been positive about the program.  Two substantive questions have
emerged, however.  A couple of responses and one company (MacConnection) have
informed me that Smartcom II does not support ZModem file transfer protocol. 
I assume this is incorrect?  

Others have suggested that Smartcom is happier working with Hayes modems, that with other high speed modems, settings may have to be made/remade with init strings where they might be more automatic with
a Hayes modem.  Is there truth to this?

Thanks again for your comments.

Jim
********************************************************************
System: fourd.com                                Phone: 617-494-0565
Cute quote:  Being a computer means never having to say you're sorry
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.protocols.tcp-ip
From: karches@utdallas.edu (Tom Karches)
Subject: Re: 'comp.sys.mac.mactcp' newsgroup?
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:47:54 GMT

In article <1glr8lINNdka@nigel.msen.com> emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) writes:
>would there be any interest in splitting off a 'mactcp' newsgroup
>from the .comm discussion, to focus in a bit more on the IP part
>of Macintosh networking and to leave out the ordinary asynch stuff?
>

comp.protocols.appletalk has been serving this need. Try posting there.

Regards,
Tom Karches
karches@utdallas.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Michael.Malloy <Michael.Malloy@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: ftp downloads
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:06:29 GMT

If you download a mac file with a .hqx file name how do you read it. Does it
need to be decoded in some way. I am a novice on ftp so any help would be
welcome.
-- 

Michael.Malloy@mixcom.com
Whitefish Bay, Wisconsin         "Truth is a Virus"                           *
From: tm-mis@mcs.drexel.edu (Team account|Management Information Systems)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Hermes Serial Numbers
Date: 12 Dec 92 11:42:51 GMT
Organization: Drexel University

Hermes 1.9 
B7C3E51E05EB54B7F3C89C49165C89922A48D72115F4DE699EF7DC6BE370F4CCD4369244
DDD78BE7792ABA98BB60A5B73F08B37714BF51E3F775EDC0351D245EA7CF1D40B68ABBAA

Hermes 2.0
F44D4F0515519F44AD855850FDAD10868EA8EC1F9C2240E233503628D57F083599A41085


That was just in case you missed 'em.

Just to clear up some points.

That Hermes Backdoor that was posted doesn't work as far as I have seen...

The Hermes 2.0 serial number is registered to: noone. It was obtained by
someone else via credit card fraud.

Forgetting about the morality of this, its just so anyone who WAS ripped off
by Frank (by his not offering a free upgrade to 2.0 as implied in the
original license agreement) can utilized the software as they were led to
believe.

As to the legal, moral, and ethical points:

WHAT DOES IT MATTER!

This was posted anonymously because the poster isn't stupid, and doesn't need
the headache of "wrath of net syndrome"

It would be almost impossible to determine the poster's identity, so why the
incessant babble about legality? What about the illegal doings of Frank Price?

If anything, this posted help one person with a CANCELLED CHECK to AOC Software.

He sent in his $75, and Frank Price III gave him NO Serial number, and no
acknowlegement of receipt of the money, after over 2 months.

He was able to keep his BBS going because of this posting. That alone
justifies this posting.

Lastly, the poster does not use this software, and was not personally ripped
off by Frank Price.  The poster is just tired of the countless stories from
people about unfair dealings from Frank Price.

USE SOME OTHER SOFTWARE! But if you have to use Hermes, don't pay Frank's
"upgrade fee" which should not be levied upon Hermes owners.


A
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Distribution: world
From: jimh@laison.w8hd.org (Jim Hebert)
Organization: L'AISON - Local Area Information Server Open Network
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:50:34 EDT
Subject: Re: Zyxel:  file transfers die randomly?

 Bill Johnston,johnston@me.udel.edu  writes:
   > The Zyxel connects cleanly (19200/V32b  
  > 14400/V42b to an ATI v.32bis) and stays 
  > connected during interactive  sessions, but 
  > drops carrier within 5 - 10 minutes when I 
  > run a zmodem  download                        

Perhaps your problem is related to the DTR and RTS lines (at modem) being tied
together at the Mac handshaking output line.

  > This occurs with the old Supra-suplied HH 
  > cable and HH cable made  according to fig 
  > 1.2.2 in the c.s.m.c FAQ.   

I have not seen the figure you cite (or the FAQ?); it is quite common for the
cable to be wired like this:
 
   Mac Pin 1 (Output HS)  to  Modem Pin 4 (RTS)  and to Modem Pin 20 (DTR)    
          

The effect of this is that you cannot sumultaneously have the modem set for
hang-up on DTR  (&D2) and for RTS flow control (i.e, terminal can stop modem
from sending to it). 
 
That said, it *usually* works even if you have both enabled, as the Mac can
normally stay ahead of the modem, and the output handshake is never lowered
until hang-up. With your faster modem, perhaps you are delivering more data
than the mac can accept and it drops its "Output handshake", which also drops
DTR. If you have &D2 set, your modem hangs up at this point.



_____________________________________________________________________________
Jim Hebert                L'AISON = Local Area Information Server Open Network    
jimh@laison.w8hd.org                Tel: 313/647-2634  Beverly Hills, Michigan
______________________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: oppedahl@panix.com (Carl Oppedahl)
Subject: Global Village Tele Gold and Shiva Dial-In Network Access
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 05:34:34 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC
Keywords: SHIVA DIAL-IN Global Village Teleport Gold Compatibility 



After many hours I have worked out how to use a Global Village Teleport
Gold modem with Shiva Dial-In Network Access.

My configuration is as follows:  SE30, Personal Laserwriter printer.  No
network attached to computer at printer port or anywhere else.

System 7 installed.  Shiva DINA is version 3.7.3.

Distant system has a Shiva Netmodem V.32.

First problem:  Using other modems, I have no trouble connecting at 
9600 BPS.  But with the GVTG, I manage to log in only one time in ten, or 
worse.

Solution, arrived at after many hours of playing with initialization
string, is this.  Initialize the modem with AT&F1 S7=60.

The AT&F1 part is no big surprise, since that is the standard setup if
the modem is to be used with hardware flow control at a high data rate, 
such as V.32 or V.32 bis.

The S7=60 is the stinker.  The designer of the GVTG defaulted S7 to 30.
The result, when I was dialing an 800 number that takes a long time to
get through, and when the two modems are going to negotiate a V.42
error-correcting connection, is that the modem would give up and say
"no carrier" time and time again.  The way to fix it is to make S7 bigger.

Second problem.  If I use DINA, I have to have Appletalk on.  And the
operating system then makes the printer port unopenable.  The chooser is
not permitted to associate the printer driver with the printer port.

Solution, provided to me by a kind soul on comp.sys.mac.comm, (Jim Hebert) 
is to install Appletalk Remote Access (yes, even though I won't be using it
for anything).  With ARA installed, I then go to the network control 
panel, and select Remote Only.  This tells the operating system that it
is okay for me to use the chooser to connect the printer driver with the
printer port.  I get to use the printer and DINA, both.


Carl Oppedahl AA2KW  (intellectual property lawyer)
30 Rockefeller Plaza
New York, NY  10112-0228
voice 212-408-2578     fax 212-765-2519
From: roy@mchip00.med.nyu.edu (Roy Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Problem with Fetch 2.1? (cannot fpt with name address)
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:26:11 GMT
Organization: New York University, School of Medicine
NNTP-Posting-Host: mchip00.med.nyu.edu

Jim.Matthews@dartmouth.edu (Jim Matthews) writes:
->2) The site you are trying to connect to advertises multiple addresses,  
->only some of which are reachable.  Fetch only tries the first one  
->returned, and if that one doesn't work you're out of luck.  I haven't  
->thought of a good solution to this problem.

Why can't Fetch just try each address in turn?
-- 
Roy Smith <roy@nyu.edu>
Hippocrates Project, Department of Microbiology, Coles 202
NYU School of Medicine, 550 First Avenue, New York, NY 10016
"This never happened to Bart Simpson."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: alain@linguist.jussieu.fr ()
Subject: Re: Eudora Support
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Organization: Universite Paris VI/Paris VII
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:58:29 GMT

In article <9212141613.AA18858@draco.src.honeywell.com>,
drdan@src.honeywell.com wrote:

> Consider Eudora. Unless Qualcomm starts treating it as a profit source, I
> can't depend on its future (if Qualcomm were to start having cost problems,
> it has to drop marginal efforts to survive). For Eudora the file format
> problem doesn't exist, because we have a long term committment to Unix and
> the Internet, and the Eudora files can be simply transmitted to a unix box,
> and we can go back to using "mail" or emacs (yugh). So I recommend it to
> individuals who like good elegant email packages.

You can recommend it to the others too :-) 

I understand Daniel's reasoning, but he chose the wrong example. 
 
Take QuickMail. The fact that CE treats it as a profit source didn't
prevent
them from releasing a version (still current) that conflicts with system 
7 filesharing, and that you can't administer via the network (the
mailcenter 
is eating up space on my desk), to say nothing of lots of other sloppy 
details.  The developper of our SMTP\QM gateway got so disgusted he 
discontinued support.  Yet QM is often cited as the best commercial mail 
package...

So we're in a position symmetric to that which Daniel invoked: we are
going to drop a software package that we paid money for, but feel we can't
depend on, in favor of one that's free, but that we feel we can depend on. 
Not just because support for Eudora has been great so far, but also because
the software and protocol seem soundly designed.

Maybe feedback via the net is what makes free software good.  Maybe the
ecology of free software encourages speciation of new stuff and selection
of the best.  Maybe free software developpers are driven by aesthetics or 
a sense of what's "right" that escapes the money-driven type.  Whatever
the reason free software is often really good.


Alain de Cheveigne,
alain@linguist.jussieu.fr
From: tom@thg.hobby.nl (Tom Gewecke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: America On Line <--> Internet ?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 07:53:11 MET
Reply-To: tom@thg.hobby.nl (Tom Gewecke)
Distribution: world
X-Mailer: uAccess LITE - Macintosh Release: 1.6v1


In article <hatch-161292122539@engelhard-slip-5345.rutgers.edu> (comp.sys.mac.comm), hatch@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Steven Hatch) writes:

> Has anyone noticed that it may take a few days for your e-mail to arive on
> AOL from the Internet?

Yes, and the same going the other way.  In general the AOL gateway is
not realiable timewise, which can be very frustrating.  Compuserve
is a much better bet if that is important to you.

-------------------------------------
Tom Gewecke (tom@thg.hobby.nl)
The Hague, Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: x@springer.aux.apple.com (Steve Peters)
Subject: MacX 1.2 and System 7.1
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:59:34 GMT
Reply-To: peters@apple.com
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

MacX 1.2 corrects two compatability problems that occur with System 7.1:

     + An undocumented programming interface was "retired" in System 7.1, MacX 1.1.7
       made use of this interface when processing "Remote Commands". MacX 1.2
       now uses the supported programming interface.

     + MacTCP was rev'd to support System 7.1. MacX 1.2 incorporates the new and
       improved MacTCP 1.1.1.


-- 
Steve Peters
X Project Leader
Apple Computer, Inc.
peters@apple.com
From: breger@sitka.sun.com (Ron Breger)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: Apple ExpressModem on PB 160/180
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 12 Dec 1992 21:25:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: bregermaclt.sitka.sun.com

Does anyone actually have one of these Express Modems?  Are they shipping
yet?

Ron Breger
breger@sitka.sun.com
Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.comm:12037 comp.mail:213 comp.protocols.iso.x400:710
From: newsmgr@logica.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.mail,comp.protocols.iso.x400
Subject: Looking for Touch Communications Inc
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:21:42 GMT

Does anyone know if Touch (the makers of an X.400 gateway for MS Mail
for the Mac and other mailing systems) are accessible via Internet 
Mail?

Many thanks

William Lees
Logica International Limited, London UK
leesw@logica.co.uk
From: craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:14:12 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: decel.ecel.uwa.edu.au

eacj@theory.TC.Cornell.EDU (Julian Vrieslander) writes:

>In article <1992Dec16.093457.13871@alijku05.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> Norbert Mueller <K360171@alijku11.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at> writes:

>I just installed system 7.1 from the develop CD.  AFTER the install had
>completed, I found a ReadMe note on my disk.  The note tells me that
>MacTCP 1.1.1 is required for system 7.1, and that I should install this
>version of MacTCP BEFORE installing system 7.1.

I copied MacTCP 1.1 onto our new vx without really thinking very hard and
basically all I can say is that it "mostly works".  The only thing I can
see that is failing is that there is no lat drivers listed.  ie This vx
better not get an ethernet card because you won't be able to change the
interface to it.  Other than that it works fine.  I am perfectly willing to
admit however that this is entirely likely sheer luck!

Craig
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  University of Western Australia    Dept of Education (afternoon)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar)
Subject: PRODIGY's MODEM SALE ANOTHER HEADACHE!!! I've been had :-(
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:02:25 GMT
Organization: IMRAN: Information & Media Resources, Affiliations, Networks

Disclaimrs first.  I do not have stock in Compuserve nor does THIS have
anything to do with my hating PRODIGY!

I posted that I decided to get on Prodigy to use their special offer of
$199 modems v.32bis plus fax.

I ordered a set, but ONE MINUTE LATER cancelled the order.  BUT, the
modems arrived anyway!  So, I said what the hell, I may as well
use them.  

Guess what.  These are EAGLE v.32bis modems that WILL NOT WORK with
anything except a PC.  They do not follow standard at commands like
AT&V etc.  They say ERROR whe you do anything like ATDT 555-1212 etc.

Finally got a call back from the EAGLE manufacturer (DIGICOM in CA)
when the people at Prodigy were unable to help.  The modem's firmware will
only work with a PC, they will have new modems later that will also
work with Macs.  

So these are NOT standard v.32bis Hayes type modems that you can use out of
the box with any program or computer.

I will send them all back now :-(

It s back to good old Telebit Worldblazers for high end  and ZOOM etc
for ordinary fax/modem use for me.  Just wanted you to know in case you
were thinking of getting the Easgles off Prodigy too


Imran Anwar



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: winney@dal.mobil.com (Randy Winney)
Subject: Mcvert Question 
Organization: Mobil Exploration & Producing Technical Center(MEPTEC), Dallas. 
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:02:14 GMT

I have installed mcvert on my Sun IPC and have tested it by converting
an *.hqx disk file into an *.sit disk file. Now, how do I get the *.sit file
onto a floppy so I can load it on a Mac that's not on the network?
Moreover, how should I format the floppy on my Sun so that the Mac
can read it?

Thanks,
Randy Winney             winney@dal.mobil.com