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From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Subject: Re: cleaning and lubricating a chain
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 01:55:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: world,local

One thing (if I remember this correctly)

10W-40W: it's the viscosity of cold 10W when it's cold and
the viscosity of hot 40W when it's hot. This means that it
is still heavier when it's cold than when it's hot but the
difference between the two viscosities is much less than in
pure petroleum oils.

Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:18922 can.general:3575 ont.general:1269 soc.culture.canada:5349 ott.general:569
From: Kenneth_Ferguson@rand.org (Ken Ferguson)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: cleaning and lubricating a chain
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:51:13 GMT
Organization: RAND
X-UserAgent: Nuntius v1.1a2




      As an avid mountain bike rider and motorcycle racer, I can definitly
tell you not to use the CHAIN LUBE brand of lubricant if you plan on
riding
off road. 

      This particular brand is very sticky and thick. Any dirt that
happens to get
on it will stick to the chain and wear out the links prematurely. I have
found that
this happens on both bicycles and motorcycles and is quite messy to boot.

     
      What I usually do is use WD40 or one of the synthetic brands of
spray
lubricants. These go on clean, and leave a slight film on the chain that
is enough
to keep it lubricated for two days of hard use.


           Ken Ferguson
From: rwt@ohm.york.ac.uk (Richard Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: UK Track Bike (Burrows Monocoque)
Date: 31 Jul 92 07:02:20 GMT
Organization: Electronics Department, University of York, UK

In <1992Jul30.223036.23074@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> jan@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Jan Wysocki) writes:

- yup, agreed with - every commentary I have seen refers to this
bike as the "Lotus" bike - the fact that Mike built his prototype
~10 years ago appears to have escaped the notice of the media

>His own carbon fibre bikes have been produced using simple hand lay up
>techniques.  Boardman's bike has benefitted from Lotus's involvement
>because they use vacuum moulding techniques for their car bodies.  As
>anybody with a boat suffering from 'osmosis' knows, hand laid fibre
>reinforced plastic contains numerous voids and fails to realise
>anything like its theoretical strength or stiffness.  They also have
>wind tunnel access and all the resources of a large technically based
>company.  They're also interested in diversification.  I believe that
>they now have some involvment in the vacuum moulding of GRP yacht hulls
>and are also interested in the production of big ticket bikes for both
>serious racing cyclists and poseurs.  I expect there also will be the
>same sad trickledown to ordinary bikes that spawned the loathsome
>'shopper' out of Alex Moulton's original suspension bicycle.  This sort
>of construction technique is not suited to mass production, if you want
>cheap hi-tech, you'd better stick with Kirk!

I hope you don't mean the original "Raleigh" Mouldons, heavy they
may be, but they are wonderful town bikes

rwt


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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: salvaggi@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Nanette Salvaggio)
Subject: Trailors for Kids
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 16:24:28 GMT


Hi, 

I have a 9 month old and would like to purchase a trailor to put
him in.  I have looked at several brands and was wondering if
anyone has used them, how they liked them, and how old were
your children when you put them in it.  We were
told it isn't a good idea until the child is one year old.
I know my son would love it now.

Please email reponses.
Thanks,
Nanette
salvaggi@acadia.kodak.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: kimmel@epx.cis.umn.edu (Eric Kimmel)
Subject: Re: Trial set for driver who hit bicyclist
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:46:03 GMT

In article <9207241626.AA04000@hplomg.hpl.hp.com> BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM writes:
>From: Article by Howard Libit, "Peninsula Times Tribune" 23 June 92.
>
>suffered "severely broken" legs and neurological problems.  If
>convicted, Wray could face up to four years in prison, Serrato said.
>

FOUR YEARS???  I'd throw away the key.  That has got to be one of the stupidest
acts I've ever heard of.  He CLEARLY wanted to injure the cyclist and then
had no remorse for doing so.  Mark one up for the judicial system not
protecting cyclists like they should be.

>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com

-Rick
From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: cleaning and lubricating a chain
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:51:08 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <23EA02s91bP001@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> jyk50@quts.ccc.amdahl.com (  242  J Kretschmann III) writes:
>Degrease in citrus-based cleaner (like Citra-Solv).  The stuff works
>great and is not harmful to you or the environment.

If you read the Citra-Solv container you will see that it is
a petroleum byproduct and that it has some pretty strong health
warnings.

Simple Green seems to be a better idea.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: mfaison@vdoe386.vak12ed.edu (Michele Faison)
Subject: Re: slight catch/cough in chest (velodrome racer)
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Richmond)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 14:14:12 GMT

vittallo@ssd.comm.mot.com  writes:
> I race in the Northbrook Velodrome and for the past week and a half I 
> have had sort of a cough or catch in my chest once in a while when I 
> breath. And once in a while I go into a coughing spell.  I have no cold
> symptomes. What is it?  What can I take over the counter that won't hurt
> my performance?
>  

Consider that this might be exercise-induced asthma.  Not all
cases are accompanied by the classic wheezing.  I have found
that I have it, and the doctor cited some study of Olympic
athletes (not just cyclists) which found that approx 33% of
them had some sort of asthma, yet as attuned as they were to
their bodies, were totally unaware of this.  However, you
should see a doctor.  Over-the-counter asthma remedies are
dangerous, and because they contain substances that act as
stimulants, can be counter-productive (the chemicals are
similar to o-t-c diet pills).  I now use an albuterol
inhaler prior to exercise with another type (intal) inhaler 4x
per day.  My performance has shown marked improvement...I'm not
a racer, but I have increased my avg. speed over last year by
30% and climb much better---I'm in better shape than I thought.
But best of all...no more coughing fits or gasping for breath
until I thought I'd hyperventilate. (Added benefit...reduced
the incidence of migraine headaches after a good ride...there's
some connection apparently between migraine and asthma.)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,can.general,ont.general,soc.culture.canada,ott.followup
From: tomk@netcom.com (Thomas H. Kunich)
Subject: Re: Interesting facts about bicycles in Ontario (from MoT)
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 01:47:53 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

I have always had the problem as follows:

I'm proceeding at speed down a bike path. Ahead I see an older
person (couple, group, etc.). I slow down and call out, "On
your left!" Invariably the person closest to me will then pivot
on their left foot and turn around directly in the path of travel
forcing me to make an emergency stop. They then usually look startled
and say something like, "uhnk!", or something else equally intelligent.

So I seldom call out.

A friend of mine points out that _everyone_ knows what a bicycle
bell means and he 'ring-a-dings' while going down the path. I have to
admit that the french bicycle bell is never misunderstood.

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,ont.general,can.general
From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: Re: Bicycle helmets (was Re: Ontario government ...)
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:22:48 GMT

880431j@dragon.acadiau.ca (Stacy Janes) writes:

>Mother Nature <gaea@zooid.guild.org> writes:

>I live in Ontario, and I disagree with the mandatory law, but I agree with
>helmets.  For me, it has nothing to do with getting a ticket, it is just
>one more constricting law to get money for the government.

Anybody who doesn't wear a bike helmet _will_ probably have their head
examined - by a coroner.

-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@geovision.gvc.com or {uunet,revcan}!geovision!pt
(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
Zen T-Shirt: Enlightenment Available - Enquire Within
 -- Paul Gillingwater (Paul.Gillingwater@actrix.gen.nz) on rec.humor.funny
From: BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Rim failure, for Jobst and other netters!
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:54:47 GMT

Thomas Kunich writes:

> This is a common failure from overtightening. It is unlikely that
> a Mavic failed like this due to a flaw. The broken nipple is a dead
> giveaway to overtightening.
>
> BTW, if you don't lube everything up well when you start it is
> difficult to tell if you are overtightening the spokes.

I disagree that this is a common result, and if you check, it was not
a broken nipple but a tear-out of a nipple socket, the most common
failure of anodized rims.

On the other hand, how can you tell whether a spoke is properly tensioned
when it is lubricated in contrast to when it is not?  I agree that oiling
threads is advisable but I don't see the correlation between that and
proper tension.  You don't mention any means of determining tension.

To reiterate my earlier comment on this, don't use anodized rims.

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: naru@eng.umd.edu (Naruhisa Takashima)
Subject: Re: NBC's Olympic Coverage
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 15:14:55 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park
Originator: naru@hurricane.eng.umd.edu


I can't comment on the Eric Clapton video because I had to answer a phone call, but
I did enjoy the coverage of woman's road race.  Compared to the ESPN's coverage
of the Tour;
NBC did show some attacks. 
It least they showed Inga come back to the group. (ESPN never showed Greg getting back)
Showed profiles of the riders (I know its not racing,
but its nice to know who they are)
And I think they used the a lotted time better. (ESPN used too much time reviewing the
previous race)

I know multiple stage race is different from one day race, and a direct comparison
is not fair but...  I think the format they used will appeal to the masses and in the
long run I think that will be better for the sport. (I think Velo News made similar comment)

just my two cents.
Naru Takashima

Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: bsirvine@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Flogger-D)
Subject: Parts Supply
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 12:51:24 EDT

I appear to have a bent crank, which deforms all my chainwheels so
the chain rubs the front derailleur cage.  I've removed the chainwheels
and they appear to be flat.  Anyway, I want to buy a crank withOUT
chainwheels.  None of the mailorder places seem to sell them that way.
I've tried Colorado Cyclist, Excel, Nashbar and Performance.  I
need to replace a Shimano "Exage" 600 LS crank, so I guess I'll
be going with a Shimano "Deore" triple to replace it.

Please email me if you have a source as the traffic on rec.bicycles
is too high to pick up replies.

bsirvine
From: ccoprbm@prism.gatech.EDU (bruce mccullough)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Bike Painting- Information Bruce has collected
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:59:56 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

With no objections I'll go ahead and post the file on painting that I have
for everyone to veiw. Decide for yourself on it's worth. Hope it helps 
some of you guys.

Article 54499 of rec.bicycles:
From: jyk50@quts.ccc.amdahl.com (  242  J Kretschmann III)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Bike Painting - What Kind of Stand to Use?
Date: 22 May 92 00:39:50 GMT

I use a 2 inch section of broom handle and some heavy wire.  I drill
a hole in the center of the section of broom handle.  I insert the wire
through the hole and tie a knot in it to keep it from going back through
the hole.  Then I run the wire up from the bottom bracket through the seat
tube and out the top.  Then you can attach the wire to a swivel hook and
screw the hook into the ceiling.  This set-up will allow you to rotate
the frame in any direction making painting those tough-to-reach areas
much easier.



bike.painting   Sam Henry's (shenry@rice.edu) collection of articles on
		how to paint a bike.


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From: wittenberg@zendia.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Signalling right turns
Keywords: hand signals, traffic law, cycling
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:35:20 GMT
Reply-To: wittenberg@zendia.enet.dec.com ()
Distribution: rec
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <rlewis.712385222@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>,
 rlewis@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca (Robert Lewis) writes:

|> 
|> There is a push in this province (Alberta) to change the right turn hand
signal
|> from one done with the left hand pointing upward with the arm bent at the
elbow 
|> to a right turn hand signal done with the right hand pointed straight out to
|> the right.  I would like to know which is the legally recognized right turn 
|> hand signal in your area.
|>  

In Massachusetts, drivers or bicyclists can signal a right turn with their
left hand (forearm pointed up).  Bicyclists may also signal a right
turn with their right arm pointed straight out.  This is one of the very
few places where bicycles and cars are treated differently.

I find the right arm signal much clearer than the left.

--David Wittenberg
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,ont.general,can.general
From: Mother Nature <gaea@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Re: Bicycle helmets (was Re: Ontario government ...)
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 22:52:30 GMT

gregory@cs.sfu.ca (Gregory Sidebottom) writes:
>It should also be noted that infrequent cyclist are more likely to
>crash their bikes.  

Why do you assume that I'm an infrequent cyclist? Last year I did
approximately 40km/day during good weather (May-October). I used
my bicycle as a method of transportation to and from school/work, and
during the summer did a lot of recreational cycling.

>In the three years that I've been wearing a helmet, I've never had any
>'funny' remarks yelled at me.  In fact, I feel good about wearing a
>helmet and I think I look pretty good in it.  I feel like yelling
>'funny' remarks to people who don't where helmets, and I'm not alone.
>One day I forgot to bring my helmet when I was checking out a mountain
>bike race, almost everybody I encountered yelled "where's your
>helmet?"  I really felt out of place, and unsafe.

Never once did I say that a bike helmet is not a good idea, I only said 
that I wouldn't want it to become manditory to have to wear one.

Gaea
From: arnie@col.hp.com (Arnie Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Happy Ending
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:13:48 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

With all this bandwidth on the net being taken up by accident discussions
I thought that I'd relate a near bad experience with a happy ending.

I was going to Oliver's Deli for breakfast on my way to work. I was going
south on a 4 lane road and the driveway to Oliver's was just ahead, about
100 yards. Suddenly, a white BMW passes me in the left lane and then pulls
in front of me into my lane, brakes sharply and turns into the driveway to
the shopping center, directly in my path. Since I was already slowing down
to turn into the same driveway, no harm was done. Had I not been slowing
down I might have had a serious accident. I caught a glimpse of a woman
with a cigarette in her mouth. I made the usual mental note, hoping that
either lung cancer, heart disease, or emphysema would do what I could not
bring myself to do, and I parked my bike by Oliver's Deli. 

She parked nearby and started to walk by me into the deli. As she passed me 
she said "Hello" to me. I figured, "Why the hell not?" ( since she had 
opened the communications channel and sent the first data packet ). I said, 
"Do you realize that what you did was an extremely dangerous maneuver and 
might have seriously injured me? You should never cut off anyone, 
particularly a cyclist, and then stop in their path the way you did." She 
looked stunned and then began to apologize profusely. She said that she 
should have known better, that she had lived in Germany for 8 years and 
hosted foreign cyclists in here home when they came to Colorado Springs 
to compete or to train.

Anyway,  I concluded our little conversation by telling her that no harm 
was done and that I hoped that I had educated her a little. 


                                                       Arnie
-- 
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arnie@hplsdvt
Telnet 590-5642
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,ont.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ott.general
From: evan@telly.on.ca (Evan Leibovitch)
Subject: Re: Interesting facts about bicycles in Ontario (from MoT)
Organization: Somewhere just far enough out of Toronto
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 22:21:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.002908.5954@samba.oit.unc.edu>
	Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen) writes:

>Interesting bicycle facts, courtesy of the Ontario Ministry of
>Transportation (distributed with the revised bicycle policy issued July
>23, 1992)

Just as interesting is what's left off...

>There are more than 3 million bicycles and 2 million cyclists in Ontario.

...not one of which must be checked for roadworthiness at any time.

>6% of Ontarians (460,000) over the age of 15 use bicycles for primary
>transportation.

Not one of whom is tested for knowing the rules of the road on a bicycle,
or knowing the safe way to drive on a road which also has cars on it.

>Bicycles are legally vehicles under the Highway Traffic Act (HTA).

... which explains why so many of them are driven on sidewalks and between
lanes of cars...

>Safety equipment (e.g. lights, brakes and horns) and operating procedures
>for bicycles are mandated by legislation.

...such legistlation being rarely heeded and never enforced...

>Studies indicate that bicycle helmets can reduce cycle related fatalities
>by 75% and head injuries by 85%.

A little knowledge of the rules of the HTA, required as a requisite for
driving bicycles on major roads, wouldn't hurt either.

>6% of Ontario individuals use the bicycle as their primary means of
>transportation and save an estimated 156 million litres of oil a year or
>$78 million.

I see. That's how much they save compared to taking public transit? I'd
like to know how this "savings" is calculated.

>In a number of large Ontario municipalities, police on bicycles are active
>as a means of community law enforcement.

Do they enforce the improper use of bicycles? How many tickets were
issued last year for cyclists riding in pedestrian-only walkways, or for
failing to drive in the marked lane of a regular roadway, or for failing
to have working safety equipment?

>The bicycle industry and related tourist activities contribute more than
>$150 million a year to the Ontario economy.

Which would be spent elsewhere in the economy if it wasn't spent here. Yawn.

>In the audience for the press conference were two Metro Toronto Police
>officers from the bicycle squad, complete with bicycle shorts, night-stick
>and gun.

How quaint. At least bicycles don't shit on the road like horses do.

-- 
 Evan Leibovitch, Sound Software Ltd., located in beautiful Brampton, Ontario
         evan@telly.on.ca / uunet!utzoo!telly!evan / (416) 452-0504
   Said Captain Jean-Luc Picard to the tailor at his machine: "Make it sew!"
From: lars@craycos.com (Ron Larson)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: flat states (was Re: centuries)
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:28:02 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation

In article <Brqw2L.2MM@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pirzyk@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim Pirzyk) writes:
>In <1992Jul20.170802.57367@cc.usu.edu> bob@cc.usu.edu (Bob Bayn) writes:
>
>The rest of the state (like the Champaign area) is typical farm land, but
>you cannot see for miles (at best a mile though).

You can't see for miles because there is nothing to stand on so you can
see over the corn...

lars
-- 
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Cray Computer Corporation        |   what is the opposite of progress??
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: idelson@bms.com (Ira Idelson)
Subject: re: elusive creak
Reply-To: idelson@bms.com
Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb PRI
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:33:50 GMT

Try getting up out of the saddle and peddling. If the noise disappears
it is somewhere in the seat/seatpost/seattube.

Take the seat post out of the tube and clean and grease post and tube.
Also, take the seat itself apart and clean and grease the rails and the
angle adjustment and reassemble.

This is a chronic problem with my seat. It drove me crazy until I found
it. Since I now know what the creak is, I find it less annoying to put
up with it instead of constantly taking the seat apart.

Good luck

Ira Idelson



Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,ont.general,can.general,soc.culture.canada,ott.general
From: mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF])
Subject: Re: Interesting facts about bicycles in Ontario (from MoT)
Organization: MFCF Software Volunteer Squad, University of Waterloo, Canada
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 05:22:16 GMT

john@chance.gts.org (John R MacMillan) writes:
>|>6% of Ontarians (460,000) over the age of 15 use bicycles for primary
>|>transportation.
>|
>|Not one of whom is tested for knowing the rules of the road on a bicycle,
>|or knowing the safe way to drive on a road which also has cars on it.
>
>I'd say the vast majority over age 15 also have drivers licenses, so
>have indeed been tested for basic rules of the road.

Not only that, but if you are guilty of an offence under the Highway Traffic
Act while on your bike and you have a driver's license, the offence can
result in demerits against the license as if the driver were in a car.

>|>Bicycles are legally vehicles under the Highway Traffic Act (HTA).
>|
>|... which explains why so many of them are driven on sidewalks and between
>|lanes of cars...
>
>Actually, since a bicycle is not entitled to a complete lane, but is a
>vehicle, there are times it should be between the lanes: eg, turning
>left from a four lane road, the bicycle should be at the right of the
>left lane.  As for sidewalks, I think you're exaggerating the
>proportion of cyclist-miles spent there.  Do you have any figures?
>No?  Yawn.

Funny, I thought bikes *are* entitled to a complete lane.