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From: mece21x@rosie.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: Sambar
Date: 26 Jan 1993 11:22 CST
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In article <199301261511.AA02938@wampyr.cc.uow.edu.au>, annie@cc.uow.edu.au (annie george) writes...
>Here is a simple way of making sambar (a la Madras! )

Thanks, I will try this out and hopefully, this time I would not need to call
911 or be prosecuted by my room mate on charges of attempted murder through
food poisoning ...

> 
>Annie.

Sincerely
Michael
From: cs911093@ariel.yorku.ca (SHANTY KOKKAT)
Subject: Movies
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:17:02 GMT

Here are some movies I like..I don't mind watching it over and over..

1. Pukalam varavai
2. NadodiKatt
3. Ai Auto
4. Chithram
5. PeruVannaPurathe Vizhenjal
6. Bharatham
7. Thalayanamathram
8. His Kindess Abdulla
9. Kudumba puranam
10. Oru paikili kadha
11. Vannanam
12. Akare akare akare
13. keereedam

+ any movie produced by Bala Chandra Menon (I guess I spell it correct)

Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: balak@s8.msi.umn.edu (Ajit Balakrishna [ChemE mg15302])
Subject: Re: SCK, Moderation and other stories
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:01:51 GMT

mece21x@rosie.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael) writes:

>(1) Done at random or otherwise, every article that is posted there is
>going to be at someone's sweet will. This will hamper a lot of stuff that we
>see on the present day ACK. For e.g. I HATE broccoli, I hate it so much that
>I have not even cared to look up its spelling. So any broccoli fry which is
>being made known by the stalwarts of cooking would be very conveniently thrown 
>out. So all those broccoli lovers would never even come to know that there 
>was somebody out there who wanted to give them recipe for broccoli.
	Excellent point. The broccolli recipe would never have passed through
my screening either.

>(3) The number of articles that are posted every day are of the order of 5 to 
>10 only. On the "promotion" to SCK I assume that it might just about double 
>or so. Do we really want to cut down on the traffic further in a group where 
>postings are rare and hard to come by??
	I agree with this sentiment too. And although this has been stated before
here and everywhere else, I find myself forced to state the obvious:
	you know that you can avoid the article. And if (God forbid!) you find
yourself staring at this article (maybe because the poster artfully deceived 
you with the title, then you can still hit the 'n' key.
	One suggestion: Our FAQ should contain a note that we strongly object to
religious propaganda, and inform our readers to ignore such postings whenever they
see them. Also request them that if they are going to reply to it, remove SCK from
the follow-up list.
Ajit Balakrishna
[A up-till-now silent observer who has been moved to write]
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: tripunit@ada.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara)
Subject: Tippu Sultan - some speculation
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 01:44:36 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.110035.10466@ac.dal.ca> indran@ac.dal.ca writes:

>express my views to someone sitting in some corner of the world ( say Micheal
>Paul or Mahesh).

Thank you for mentioning my name. That'll help my popularity a bit...
it is an honour to be mentioned amidst such names as Michael & Paul.

>1)  Tippu Sultan destroyed many temples in Malabar. But he never touched the 

I thought Tippu Sultan's progress into Kerala was halted at Sultan's
Battery. When one drives down from Banglore via that route, one
descends upon Sultan's Battery very soon after one crosses the border.
Presuming that the Sultan took a similar route from Karnataka, he could
have had control only over a very small portion of Kerala & so he
couldn't possibly have destroyed too many temples in the region.

Most of that was, of course, conjecturing on my part...thanks in advance
for correcting me.

Mahesh.
-- 
Ask not what the system can do for you, but what it can do it to.
From: mece21x@jane.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: SCK, Moderation and other stories
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:22 CST
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In article <1993Jan22.110035.10466@ac.dal.ca>, indran@ac.dal.ca writes...
> I am not ready to surrender my right to 
>express my views to someone sitting in some corner of the world ( say Micheal
                                        ^^^^
>Paul or Mahesh).

Wouldn't that be "some other corner?" Or was it "some" corner, eh?

>Roots of many social problems in Kerala and in any other part of the world 
>lie in religion and God. Thus by banning all 'religious propaganda' from 
>the news group without defining what it is we are making ourselves slaves. 

Note very carefully : It is "propaganda" that is the problem. Not religion
or God. And it was against propaganda that the people voted against.

> 
>It is very difficult to isolate social and cultural aspects of Kerala from 
>religion. Here are some examples.
> 
>1)  Tippu Sultan destroyed many temples in Malabar. But he never touched the 
>
>2) Guruvayour temple is a property of Kerala government (HR&C board) 
> 
>3 ) The Muslim civil law allow a Muslim man to marry four times. Where as 
> 
>4) What is your view on reservation based on cast and income ?
> 
>5) One of my neighbor was very eager to have a son. So he prayed to the 

Excellent examples! I will give you some more, if you don't mind :-)

> 
>....ravi   

Sincerely
Michael
From: ps4e+@andrew.cmu.edu (Prathapan Sreedharan)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re:Republic Day??
Date: 27 Jan 93 16:18:49 GMT
Organization: Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Just a republic day musing.  

Yes, our biggest burden is the politician without a vision.  If only our
so-called-leaders had 20/20 hindsight!!!!

Prathapan
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman )
Subject: Re: SCK, Moderation and other stories
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ USA
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:38:08 GMT

devkumar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Devakumar Sreevijayan) writes:

)This is somewhat lengthy.        
)Let me briefly compare moderated newsgroups and unmoderated newsgroups.

One of the most sensible posts I have seen on this subject for a
loooong time. You are right on the dot on the subject of readers/posters. 

Sridhar.
--
Sridhar Venkataraman	ASU, Tempe, Arizona USA  sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: molly@uga.edu ()
Subject: Re: Movies
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:14:05 GMT

In article <balak.728157065@msi.umn.edu> balak@s8.msi.umn.edu (Ajit Balakrishna [ChemE mg15302]) writes:
>molly@uga.edu () writes:
>
>>In article <1993Jan26.221702.19102@newshub.ariel.yorku.ca> cs911093@ariel.yorku.ca (SHANTY KOKKAT) writes:
>>>Here are some movies I like..I don't mind watching it over and over..
>>>
>>>3. Ai Auto
>	Mohanlal, Comedy.
>>>4. Chithram
>	Mohanlal, Rajini (?). Beautiful movie. A must-see. Comedy/Drama. Great
>	songs.
>>>13. keereedam
>	Mohanlal. Violent. Man against system movie.
>>Thanks for this list.  Isn't possible to give brief info about some of
>>these movies (e.g. actors, comedy, drama etc?)
>>#1, #9, #10, #13 about these movies.  Thanks
>
>>Molly
>
>> 


>>>2. NadodiKatt
Mohanlal, Sreenivasan, Shobana. Comedy. Has a sequel. Can't remember name.

"Pattana pravesham" and then "Akkarre akkarre"

Molly
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: sajith@athena.mit.edu (Varghese Thannickal)
Subject: Malayalam Movies and Filmsongs
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 02:13:55 GMT

 Could some acker  kindly post/email a synopsis of Malayalam cinema, 
highlighting the important ( from artistic or commercial viewpoint ) movies 
and filmsongs, from the beginning to the present. Hopefully, that will make 
selection of videos/cassettes from stores less random ( more probability of 
selecting something worthwhile ) for a foreign born lover of the Malayali 
culture.

Thanks for the effort.

Sajith.
From: shyam@.umd.edu (Shyam Kuttikkad)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: Tippu Sultan - some speculation
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:46:31 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Center for Automation Research, Coll. Pk., MD 20742

In article <26JAN199311170668@rosie.uh.edu> mece21x@rosie.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael) writes:

>I think there is a fort of Tippu Sultan at Palghat. I went there long ago and
>I was told that there was a tomb of some general of Tippu's army in there.

There is a fort in Palakkad called Tipu's Fort, but Tipu never came to
Palakkad. It was built by one of his generals as a stronghold against (I think)
the Samoodiri of Kozhikode. From what I remember (correct me if I am wrong),
the Raja of Kollengode (near Palakkad) was this general's ally against the
Samoodiri.

I haven't heard anything about the general's tomb in the fort. There were
(false) rumours that there exists a secret tunnel from the fort all the way to
Mysore.

Currently the fort houses the District Tahsildar's office and the Sub-Jail.
Unfortunately it is not maintained as well as it should be.


>Sincerely
>Michael



Shyam Kuttikkad
From: mece21x@rosie.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Aviyal and Sambar
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:58 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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Could someone repost the recipe for aviyal and sambar? I forgot to save them.

Thanks

Michael
From: gopal@rwja.umdnj.edu (Srihari Gopal)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: What is ack about (Re: Soc.Culture.Kerala)
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:00:11 GMT
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

You misunderstood my point, which simply was that the denigration of
a newsgroup starts when the users start making stipulations on what 
can/cannot be posted. 

One person's blasphemy may be another's creed. Why don't you let the
readers of this group decide what is/is not considered "propaganda".
If they don't like an article, they can simply ignore it by hitting 'n'.
I don't think its appropriate to limit what is posted by others 
*REGARDLESS* of the contents of such postings.

What exactly is "propaganda?" What if I go around saying that 
I believe that Jesus Christ is the son of God? Is that propaganda or
a statement of my beliefs?

What if I take it a step further and say that I think Jesus Christ was
an extraordinary man, but by no means divine. Is that propaganda or
another affirmation of my beliefs?

Another step farther: Jesus Christ was SCUM, and worship of Krishna/
Allah/Buddha/fill in your own...is the ONLY path to salvation.
Even though that may be a bit more harsh, it still is a statement of
my beliefs, however skewed they may be. And I don't think I should be
prevented from saying it.

I don't care what anyone posts, unless they infringe upon *other's*
rights. The writers of Hindu-Digest did not infringe upon anyone's else's
rights, so why shouldn't they be allowed to say what they feel?

The point simply is: How can you draw the line between what is and
what is not propaganda? Are you to have an ack police which monitors
each posting and reprimands those that don't measure up to the police-
person's standards? I myself would not like my posts judged by someone
else! Especially when that monitor's standards may not be the same as mine. 

>We generally discuss and post articles which are very relevant to
>kerala. 

Can you then deny the fact that Hindu culture is now an integral part of
the tradition of Kerala? Then why brandish everything not palatable to
you as being "propaganda?"


Srihari Gopal
gopal@rwja.umdnj.edu
Organization: Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:52:09 -0500 
From: Prathapan Sreedharan <ps4e+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re:origin of the species 

That MalayalaM is a palindrome when written in either English or Hindi
makes the word unique or at least special.  But that does not say much
about the language.   

But there is something unique about the language.  I cannot remember the
word now, but it is something close to "palindrome".  I remember this
from Salman Rushdie's  "Midnight's Children" where he describes
Malayalam as the only "-------" language (I am not proud of the fact
that I had the misfortune to read that book).  It has some thing to do
with the the tongue movement while speaking Malayalam,  about palate,
nose or the like........

I would greatly appreciate somebody posting the missing adjective.

Prathapan
From: chidi@eng.umd.edu (Chidi Subramanian)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Vaasantha panchami naalil AND Anjana kannezhuthi
Date: 24 Jan 1993 03:08:17 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park
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The following "Kaathirippu" songs have always made me feel lonesome.

1)
	Vaasantha panchami naaLil varumennoru kinavu kandu
	Kilivathilil mizhiyum nattu kaathirippu njan

	Vasanthamo vannu kazhinju panchamiyum vannananJu
	Vannillen kannin munnil varendayaL matram
	
	Vaasantha ..

	Ororo kaladi shabdam charatte vazhiyil keLke
	Choorumen kaNNiroppi oodi chellum njan

	Vasantha ..

	Vannavan muTTi viLikke vaathil koLi thurakkuvanay
	VaLayochchakal keLpikkathey oringi nilpu njan

	Vasantha ..

	Aarumarum vannathilla aarumarum arinjathilla
	Aathmavil swapnavumayi kaathirippu njan

	Vasantha ..
-------------------------------------------------------------

2)
	Theythom Theyyathom ...

	Anjana kannezhuthi aalila thali chaarthi
	Arapura vaathilil njan kaathirunnu

	Manavalan eththum neeram kudumayil choodanoru
	Kudamulla malarmala korthirunnu

	Mudimele keTTi vachchu muzhu naadan pattuduththu
	Mukkuththi chanthum thottu njanirunnu

	Kannivayal varampoththi kaalochcha keeTTa neeram
	Kalyana manideepam koluththi vachchu

	Anjana ..

	Thooshanila murichchuvechu thumpappoo choru veLambi
	Aashichcha kaRiyellam niraththi vechchu

	ULLukaL urangiTTum poonkozhi karanjiTTum
	KaLLan avan vannilla thozhimare

	Anjan ..

	Thaythom Thayya thom ..
-----------------------------------------------------

Chidambaram
From: mece21x@rosie.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Music and Lyrics
Date: 25 Jan 1993 15:55 CST
Organization: University of Houston
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A friend of mine told me that once upon a time, the lyrics were written first
and the music was given accordingly. (for Malayalam film songs) But nowadays
it is the other way. Music first and the lyrics are adjusted to fit the music,
and so they are senseless.

The explanation looks plausible, but is it true? Could anyone throw some light
on this? If so, when did it all start? From the time Salil Choudhary started
bringing in all the Bengali tunes? Or was it Ilayarajah with his computerized
music or was it someone else?

Hoping for a reply,

Sincerely
Michael
From: eswaran3372@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: Chettimantharam (CORRECTION)^3
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:43:44 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <C1HDs8.M7o@news2.cis.umn.edu>, saptho@ee.umn.edu
 (Sapthotharan K Nair (grad student)) writes:

>      The correct word as sung in the movie song is "Chetthi"
>      or "Chetti" whichever spelling you prefer. Chetthi is
>      a herb with pretty bunches of tiny  red flowers. The
>      'tth' in "Chetthi" must be pronounced as that in 
>      "patthu" (meaning "ten"). Chetti- pronounced with 'tt'
>      as in "pattu" (silk) refers to a caste of South India.
>      (could be a  derogatory word in some regions - I don't
>      know of any)

Thank you Mr Sapthotharan Nair. I stand corrected.

Sasi M. Eswaran
From: anandraj@tis.enet.dec.com (Geetha Anandraj)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Recipe for Lemon Rice
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:04:22 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Northboro, MA, USA


Hello everyone,

Someone said that Kerala is more than food, places etc.. and said want to see
more than just recipes, but I posting a recipe anyway.  

This is a recipe for quick & easy Lemon Rice.  (Michael, even you should be
able to make this without calling 911!!!).  I'll post some more recipes later
if I don't get flamed for this one.  Enjoy.

Regards,

Geetha
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------



LEMON RICE 
----------

        Rice (White)               -    2 cups (cooked)
        Mustard  (kaduku)          -    1= teaspoon
        Urad Dal (oolunthu??)      -    1= teaspoon 
        Channa Dal (kadala parupu) -    1= - 2 table spoon 
                                      (soaked atleast for an hour)
        Dried Red pepper (mulaku)  -    3 to 6 (broken into 1" pieces)
        Asafoetida  (kayam)	   -    < teaspoon
        Turmeric   (manjal)	   -    < teaspoon
        Fresh grated coconut     -    = cup (optional)
        Water                    -    = cup
        Vegetable Oil            -    < cup
        Salt                     -    3/4 teaspoon
        Juice from 1 fresh lemon or = cup lemon juice concentrate.


    Optional
    --------    

        Medium Onion            - Chopped 
        Green peas              - 3/4 cup


   1. Kepp the rice ready (must be pre-cooked and cooled).

   2. Heat the oil (can be replaced by butter or Crisco) in a pan.  

   3. Add mustard, urad dal, red pepper (red pepper can be replaced by
      same amount of green chillies), asafoetida, turmeric (mix these 
      ahead of time so you can drop all at the same time into the oil).  
      Fry for about 1 minute in medium heat.  

   4. Drain the water from channa dal and add it to the oil.  Fry until 
      channa dal is reddish brown in medium-high heat.  
      Reduce the heat to low.

   5. Add lemon juice, water and salt.  Bring it to boil in medium-high heat.

   6. Add the lemon juice mixture in to the rice little at a time (depending
      on the lemon, sometime it can be too tart, so don't add all the sauce
      at one time).  

   7. Add the grated coconut. Mix well.

   8. Leave it on the stove on low-heat until the rice is
      warmed (if the rice is very cold).


   OPTIONAL
   -------

     If onion is used, it should be added (after adding the channa dal-step 4)
     to the oil and fried until the onion is transparent. 

     Add the peas with the rice and follow step 7 & 8.
From: mani@budoe.bu.edu (Ramana Mani)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: English/Hindi names of spices - Help
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:11:45 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department


Some additions/corrections to the list posted earlier : 

	English			Malayalam		Hindi
	-------			---------		-----

	Turmeric powder		Manja(l)ppodi           Haldi
	Cumin seeds		(Perum) jeerakam      	Jeera
	Mustard seeds	        Kaduku                  Sarson/Raai
	Fenugreek Seeds		Uluva			Methi
							^^^^
	Corriander Powder	Mallippodi		Dhania
	Corriander seeds	Malli/Kotthamalli
( I have also heard Kotthambaal arisi used for coriander seeds to
distinguish it from the leaves/plant. ) 
	Fennelseeds		Cheru jeerakam ?	Somph	
	Clove	 		Grambu/KarayAmpoo	Lavang
	Cinnamon		Karuvappatta		Dalcheeni
							^^^^^^^^
	Cardamom 		Elakka(ya)		Elaichi
	Black pepper		Kurumulaku		Kaalimirchi          
	Curry leaves (?)	Karuveppila             Kadipatha
	Asafoetida		Kaayam			Hing
	Cilantro	 	Malliyila               Kothmeer(l ?)
	Nutmeg			Jaathikka(ya)/Jaatipatri
	Red chilly powder	MuLakupoty		Mirch 
	Saffron			Kesari/Kumkumappoo	Kesar
	Sesame/Gingelly		eLLu			Thil

Ramana
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: jacobt@nynexst.com (Jacob Thomas)
Subject: Re: kaalam --- oru kavitha
Reply-To: jacobt@nynexst.com
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:59:49 GMT

In article C6y@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu, mchundat@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu) writes:
>Hi folks,
>
>This is a true story.
>
>I was in my final year of the bachelors at Madras and was coming back to
>my home at Kottappady in Kothamangalam.
>
>Here it goes...
>
>vR~ttham: kEka 
>
>Read in tune with "ankaNatthaimaavil ninnaadyatthe pazham veezhke..."
>etc.
>
>Tell me if you could laugh with it        
>
    kavitha deleted

YES! A couple of years ago, I was driving through the beautiful Berkshire
region of Massachussets. When I came across a park with a golf course, a
beautiful lake with people boating, etc., I stopped there to rest and
enjoy the scenery. As I was watching the boats, a man approached me and
started a conversation with "are you from India". Within a few
sentences, we realized that he knew my parents back in India, had been
to our house when he was a college student in Ernakulam, and had seen me 
as a school boy! 

Jacob
-----
From: ganesh@mega.cs.umn.edu (M. Ganesh)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: Re: Tippu Sultan - some speculation
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:57:49 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.

In article <26JAN199311170668@rosie.uh.edu> mece21x@rosie.uh.edu (Yesudas, Michael) writes:
>
>I still have some doubts about that dubious claim. When I was in 8 std, 
>there was a lesson about a King who ruled from Quilon (near Calicut), I
						^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I haven't heard of a Quilon near Calicut, but there is a Quilandy in
northern Kerala and is possibly the place you are referring to.
ganesh
From: mathew5@evans.ee.adfa.oz.au (Mathew)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
Subject: testing once again
Date: 25 Jan 1993 04:03:00 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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hi
 
sorry about this just another test from downunder!!

reji k Mathew
Newsgroups: alt.culture.kerala
From: mchundat@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mathai Chundattu)
Subject: Re: Vaasantha panchami naalil AND Anjana kannezhuthi
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:05:05 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <1jt171INNpl2@mojo.eng.umd.edu> chidi@eng.umd.edu (Chidi Subramanian) writes:
>
>The following "Kaathirippu" songs have always made me feel lonesome.
>


A thousand thanks for posting them.

What a beautiful way of waiting!

I wish such times come back!

>
>Chidambaram
> 
>

mathew

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