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From: terry@cs.weber.edu (A Wizard of Earth C)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: HELP!!! - Installation Problem.
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:19:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: fcom.1992Aug20.011957.15304
Organization: Weber State University  (Ogden, UT)

In article <1992Aug19.153415.21185@opencon.com> dlee@opencon.com (Daniel Lee) writes:
>Hi all.
>
>I have been trying to install 386BSD 0.1 in my Mylex EISA machine.
>It seems that the install program sets up the filesystem correctly
>but it does not finish installing.  It just hangs up on me.  When
>I invoke install, it formats the HD and then writes some files
>to HD.  But then, after about a minute of activity, just hangs up.
>If I type CTRL-C, it displays the initial welcome message.
>
>Did anyone here had same problem?  My machine config is :
>
>	486 EISA machine - Mylex
>	32 M RAM
>	1.44 M FDD - A Drive
>	1.2 M FDD  - B Drive
>	1.0 Gig SCSI HD
>	Adaptec 1542 Controller
>	WD Elite Ethernet Card
>	Trident SVGA (8900) card
>
>I remove all the other cards - Tape Drive, Multi-I/O card ...

Get my most recent dist.fs off of agate.berkeley.edu.  It has the paged
memory fix, the drive lockup fix, and the 82586 (starlan) ethernet driver
from the postings in this group, as well as some significant fixes to the
memory sense to make it boot on AT&T and HP and other machines with the
ptdi... errors.

What it doesn't have:

o	Chris D's fixes for zeroing out base memory for laptops.
o	The Gate A20 fix for laptops (so you don't have to hold a key
	down for it to boot and recognize the keyboard).
o	The suggested fix for the reboot code (without it, WD8003
	cards with soft setup tend to get their setup trashed as
	processor registers are overwritten in shutdown -r, shutdown -todos,
	and shutdown -to386bsd to force a soft reset)
o	The two drive fix (with 2 swap support).

Most of these patches are available on agate.  My boot code fixes aren't,
yet, as I want to do a bit more with them first.  No, I can't send the
fixes to you, as I am mid project in something else and my kernel is
rather unstable.


					Terry Lambert
					terry_lambert@gateway.novell.com
					terry@icarus.weber.edu
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From: gab10@griffincd.amdahl.com (Gary A Browning)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: resize swap space?
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:17:05 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <NOP.92Aug18184816@cf.mankato.msus.edu>,
nop@cf.mankato.msus.edu (Jay Carlson) writes:

[stuff deleted]

> No answer from anyone.  I'll ask again (silly me for doing it but it
> feels good):  
> 
> Does anyone have source to the install program distributed on the 0.1
> TinyBSD disk?

I vaguely remember reading a long time ago, a posting by Bill himself I
believe, that said that Lynne wrote it.  I suggest you e-mail her or Bill
directly as I have not seen a post from them for quite a while.
-- 
Gary Browning        | Exhilaration is that feeling you get just after a
		     | great idea hits you, and just before you realize
                     | what is wrong with it.
From: HANK@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU (DARREL HANKERSON)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: TeX -> ASCII
Date: 18 Aug 92 01:12:00 GMT

Jon Sonntag writes:
>So.. The next question is, is there any way to convert .TEX files to ascii
>text?  Or, it there some viewer to read them online?  I remeber reading about
>something like that but can't remember where.

You need to determine if the file is a TeX or Texinfo file (look at first 
few lines for '\input texinfo'). 
1. If Texinfo, then it can be converted to on-line man with makeinfo or
Emacs. Look for makeinfo at ftp-os2.nmsu.edu in pub/os2/all/gnu/gnuinfo.zoo
(or something like that). This is a DOS/OS2 port from Kai Uwe Rommel. Emacs
for OS2 2.0 is available at the same site.

2. If it is a TeX file, you could, of course, "TeX" it and then use a
screen previewer. emTeX is a good choice for this. This is a big install.
If you must have ASCII, you may be able to use the dvispell (beta, with the
emTeX stuff) to convert the dvi file (you still need TeX to get the dvi file).
This won't convert dvi files with, say, math.

--darrel hankerson hank@ducvax.auburn.edu
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From: bri@pegasus.mit.edu (Brian D. Carlstrom)
Subject: Re: Mac version of 386BSD??
Organization: mit
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:40:48 GMT

In article <13497@chalmers.se> dxper@dtek.chalmers.se (Per Anders Olausson) writes:
>  They are currently only shipping 4.4BSD-encumbered which means you have to 
>have a AT&T source licence...
>
>  Lite will follow later according to the paper ... 
[...stuff deleted...]
>  These are the supported boxes:
>	Intel 386/486-based machines (ISA/AT or EISA(?!!) bus only)

is 4.4bsd lite going to be a complete os, or will a lot of work be needed
to get it going on the 386 boxes?

-bri
From: jiu1@husc9.harvard.edu (Haibin Jiu)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: 4.4BSD -- when?
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:47:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Aug12.224747.14682
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Hi, Folks!  Does anyone know when 4.4BSD UNIX will be released?  And
will it include System V's STREAM mechanism (the one invented by
Dennis Ritchie) or implement socket on top of STREAM?

What are some of the salient new features of 4.4BSD?  I am all
excited about it, but don't quite know what exactly I should be
excited about!

Haibin Jiu
Class of '94 -- Harvard College -- Applied Mathematics/Economics
Research Assistant -- Brooklyn College -- Distributed Processing
From: jimj@miller.cs.uwm.edu (James Jegers)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: su hangs doing sysloging
Keywords: hangs, bugs
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:58:52 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Milwaukee


   We have been noticing some problems when we login and try to
   su to root.  The su command SOMETIMES just hangs, I never get a prompt...  
   Sometimes if we do something in another window it will finish and
   get a root shell.

   I have applied the 2 patches to the kernel.  I have also noticed 
   that it seems to hapen a lot when we are running X. I put print statements
   in the su command, and it is hanging on doing the openlog(syslog.....)

   Does this mean that there is somthing wrong with /dev/console?
   Or the xconsole program? or syslog?  Anybody have any idea's?
   Thanks

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From: volker@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Volker A. Brandt )
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Choice of SCSI tape drive for 386bsd
Keywords: SCSI, tape, 386bsd
Date: 19 Aug 92 11:27:10 GMT
Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany

In article <1992Aug19.083635.214@cc.uow.edu.au> pejn@cc.uow.edu.au (Paul Nulsen) writes:
>What type of SCSI tape drive would you recommend for use in a 386bsd system?

I have a Wangtek 5150ES which works OK.  It's a little loud since I have it
sitting on a desk in its own little box.  When I bought it, it was the least
expensive, compared to Archive and Tandberg.  Cipher wouldn't work.

>I would like to add a SCSI tape, but I know very little about the SCSI
>interface. Are the interfaces to all SCSI tapes the same, so that one driver
>can handle them all?

Theoretically, yes.  In real life, there are always problems.  I'm lucky not
to have any with my Wangtek, I untarred the 386bsd distribution while running
the tiny boot disk (yes, I had a tar binary prepared beforehand :-)

>For compatibility reasons I have a leaning towards an
>Exabyte drive. Does anyone have an Exabyte SCSI drive working with a 386bsd
>system?

Exabytes are notoriously difficult to get to work, but they should work with
386bsd.

-- Volker
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
From: bri@pegasus.mit.edu (Brian D. Carlstrom)
Subject: MultiUser csh problem...
Keywords: csh bug multiuser
Organization: mit
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 00:31:05 GMT

Seems more and more little 'features' keep poping up the more i use
bsd...the latest is when someone is working on the console and someone
else is working on a vt220 attached to com2, csh likes to core dump
on the console user, loging them out. 

		THIS ONLY HAPPENS AFTER A CD COMMAND!!

it seems to have only happen after a 'cd ..' to be specific.
solution thus far was for the person on the console to use sh.
anyone else have this problem or anything similar with csh...

-bri

SYSTEM: 486-33 w/ 8meg 
VIDEO: trident, but only using text
HD: 200meg IDE conner w/ BSD on the whole drive
IO: random 2xserial parallel game card.
From: spedpr@thor.cf.ac.uk (Paul Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: ne1000 slow performance
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:03:58 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

Is there benchmarking software for ethernet cards/drivers. 

I'd be interested what sort of performance I'm getting and ftp stats
vary from file to file so are meaningless for this purpose. What are
people using for this?
-- 
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From: wheeler@jeckle.mitre.org (Brien L. Wheeler)
Subject: Re: xterm: Permission Denied
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:37:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.214058.14232@hparc0.aus.hp.com>, harry@hparc0.aus.hp.com (Harry Page) writes:
> 
> I am having a little trouble running xterms under X386. Every time I try to
> start an xterm I get a message saying Permission Denied and the xterm dies.
> This is probably something very obvious but it has come to me yet. Any ideas?
> 
> Cheers
> Harry

xterm must be installed setuid root.

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From: mikebo@i88.isc.com (Michael Borowiec)
Subject: Tiny 386BSD boot problem w/IDE and Adaptec SCSI
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 05:01:57 GMT

Sorry if this is a FAQ. Is there a problem with booting Tiny 386BSD
on a machine with IDE primary and Adaptec SCSI secondary disk controllers?
Here's my configuration:

AMI 386/25c w/8MB
16-bit Seagate IDE primary controller
200MB Conner IDE drive & both 1.2 & 1.44MB flops
Adaptec 1542B secondary
Quantum 100MB SCSI drive (SCSI ID 0)
Seagate 350MB SCSI drive (SCSI ID 1)
Viper QIC150 streamer (SCSI ID 4)

I get the following screen full:
386BSD Release 0.1 by William and Lynne Jolitz. [0.1.24 07/14/92 19:07]
Copyright (c) 1989, 1990, 1991 and 1992 William F. Jolitz. All rights reserved
Based in part on work by the 386BSD User Community and the
BSD Networking Software, Release 2 by UCB EECS Department.
pc0<color> at 0x60 irq 1 on isa
com1 fifo at 0x3f8 irq 4 on isa
com2 at 0x2f8 irq 3 on isa
wd0 <Conner Peripherals 200MB - CP3204F> at 0x1f0 irq 14 on isa
fd0 drives 0: 1.2M, 1: 1.44M at 0x3f0 irq 6 drq 2 on isa
as0 at 0x330 irq 11 drq 5 on isa
npx0 at 0xf0 irq 13 on isa
Changing root device to fd0a

The SCSI bus busy light goes on solid and stays that way - system is
hung hard. Have to power down to reset the Adaptec card. No SCSI devices
are ever "ping"ed. This configuration works fine with INTERACTIVE UNIX
System V/386 v3.0 so hardware is OK and terminated correctly, etc.

I have jumpered the Adaptec BIOS off because the ISC driver directly
supports the card - does Tiny 386BSD need them? I have also jumpered
off the floppy controller part of the 1542B because the IDE card has one
and have jumpered up the DMA speed on the 1542B one notch above default
to 5.7MB/s. Again, all works fine on ISC 3.0 and MS-DOG.

Suggestions or anyone running something similar?
- Mike

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From: kawahara@mtc.telcom.oki.CO.JP (Taro Kawahara)
Subject: [1542b and SCSI tape] controller error
Organization: Oki Electric Industry Co.,Ltd. Tokyo, Japan.
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 05:35:36 GMT


I tried to install 386bsd from SCSI QIC tape drive.
But I encountered following message when read from /dev/ras2a.

as2a: controller error 0x12 reading fsbn 0-19
scsi sense: 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 

What does this messege mean?  Any solution?

My computer has Adaptec 1542B and SCSI tape drive.
It has not SCSI hard drive.

Thank you

Kawahara
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From: skutvik@sleepy.UUCP ( ECMS TEST)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Restrictions on 'free' UNIX / 386BSD (Re: selling 386BSD)
Summary: an unflame from a wannabe hacker
Date: 15 Aug 92 16:06:37 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

In article <CGD.92Aug14204505@agate.berkeley.edu>, cgd@agate.berkeley.edu (Chris G. Demetriou) writes:
> re: the serial driver stuff:
> As a matter of fact, I had just reconsidered, and was about to take
> the copyright notice *OFF* the file, and lo, and behold, i got hit by N
> flames.
...
> remember: you have no *rights* to the works of others; anything they
> 	decide to give to you, be *GLAD* for.
...
> ever read Heinlein?  "TANSTAAFL"

It seems that we are spending a great deal of time/bandwidth dealing with
copyright uncertainty (an intended result of the USL vs reality suit??),
perhaps the best method of dealing with this is to keep the 'core 386BSD'
unencumbered by personel copyrights.  (The right to copyright one's own
work is not at issue here.)  Any personally copyrighted source, be it an
enhanced version of an extant utility or a new utility could be distributed
in a seperate (but included) group.
     The ability to redistribute a working OS, under the intent thus far 
expressed by Bill and Lynn Jolitz and others, would not be hampered, and we
would gain access to a variety of other fine pieces of work to use or not 
depending on our personal beliefs.  Personally, I don't feel hampered by an
individuals desire to copyright (copyleft) their material, so long as it is
made available for us to use.
  ****Ughh, I hate it when I get up on a soapbox*****
(This was not meant to be a flame toward either pro or con personal copyrights
just an expresses wish to return to reading peolples hacks instead of 
legal opinions)
			Pat Eyler- wannabe hacker for hire
			(Borrowing net access from Roy Skutvik)
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From: peter@taronga.com (Peter da Silva)
Subject: Re: Restrictions on 'free' UNIX / 386BSD (Re: selling 386BSD)
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:02:28 GMT

In article <PHR.92Aug17110648@soda.berkeley.edu> phr@soda.berkeley.edu (Paul Rubin) writes:
>    >[subsidised "free"] distribution is not practical for an operating system.

>    >Why is it practical for compilers and not OS's?

>    Because the compiler distribution is subsidised by the OS distribution. If
>    the OS itself has no protection against unsupported copying, what is there
>    to subsidise it?

>Hardware distribution.

But the hardware manufacturers aren't the ones selling the operating system.

>    And for clonable machines (Sparc, MIPS, x86) the O/S has to be a
>    profit center in its own right.

>The x86 proves this is totally wrong.  Nearly all x86 vendors just
>ship ms-dog on their machines with almost no profit

And they pay Microsoft to do so. The operating system is a profit center
*for Microsoft* in its own right. And while it's a screaming horror from
the sewers of hell, it *does* run out of the box without any diddling, and
has a zillion applications for it.

>Conversely, if not enough people want the support,
>the support must not be so important, and then there's not much excuse
>for a proprietary OS.

There's support and there's support. Cygnus isn't selling to Joe Blow who
wants a computer to do accounts receivable for his auto parts business.
THAT's the market **ix needs to survive, let alone prosper, past the next
few years. And *that's* why I don't want to see 386BSD knocked out of the
conventional commercial distribution system.

I'm not talking about esoteric like SunOS or Motif (both nightmares to
support, even compared with System V which isn't exactly something I'd wish
on Joe Blow), I'm talking about load-and-go systems like DOS and Windows
and load-and-go applications like Locust 1-2-3 or Weird Perfect.
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From: jnpotts@iastate.edu (James N. Potts)
Subject: Re: How to build & configure LPT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 03:45:46 GMT

Has anyone placed the recompiled binary with lpt support anywhere?

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tabp6@isuvax.iastate.edu|                      - Me
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From: witr@rwwa.COM (Robert Withrow)
Subject: Why the big copyright statements?
Reply-To: witr@rwwa.com
Organization: R.W. Withrow Associates
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 00:18:20 GMT

In article <14809@ksr.com>, jfw@ksr.com (John F. Woods) writes:
| The problem is that the law basically *requires* that the copyright get in your
| face.
| 
| You'll notice that books have the copyright notice up front, but no one holds
| a gun to your head to force you to read it.

This makes me curious about two things:  As others have noted, book copyright
notices occur once in the beginning of the book.  I presume this is because
the copyright notice is protecting exactly *one* work, right?  Since the
BSD and ATT/USL copyright statements occur in each *file*, would I be correct
in assuming that each file is a *seperate work*?  Does this not have 
implications WRT infringement suits?

Also, my studies indicate that a *one line* copyright notice, placed
prominently on each copy, would suffice to protect the work (in the US)
as long as it contains:

  1) The symbol <c inside circle>, the word ``Copyright'' or the
     abbreviation ``Copr.''

  2) The year of the first publication of the work, and

  3) The name of the copyright owner.

Thus something like:  ``Copyright 1992 by Foo Bar.'' would be sufficient in the
USA.  For international protection, a two line thing like:

``<c inside circle> 1992 by Foo Bar.  All rights reserved, including the 
right to reproduce this work or portions thereof in any form.''

would do it.

All of the rest of the BSD notice beyond the above amounts to a ``restricted
permission to copy'' statement.  Since it is a *weakening* of protection
rather than an *enhancement*, there is no reason that I know for having
it in *each and every* file...

My question is:  what precisely is wrong with having the short one
or two line copyright on the first page of each source file, and having
the ``permission to copy'' statement in a seperate file *one place* in
the distribution?

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From: jeanpaul@blade (Jean-Paul Smeets)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: kernel ready for X
Summary: X
Keywords: X386bsd
Date: 20 Aug 92 23:31:59 GMT
Organization: MCGV Stack, Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Hi,

I noticed there is no patched kernel for use with X386 available through ftp.
So I put mine at:

	ftp.stack.urc.tue.nl (131.155.2.71).

This kernel does the job for me. X is running fine.

Jim.

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From: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph Kukulies)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.bsd
Subject: rebooting (was Re: 2nd drive file ...)
Keywords: warm boot reboot fsck
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:00:07 GMT
Reply-To: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de
Organization: I.Physikalisches Institut RWTH-Aachen


In article  <1992Aug15.015736.2417@werple.pub.uu.oz.au>  andrew@werple.pub.uu.oz.au (Andrew Herbert) writes:

>STDN%MARIST@VM.MARIST.EDU (Dan Newcombe) writes:

>>3) Rebooting:  My system refuses to reboot without me hitting the
>>   RESET switch on the unit.

>Same with my Micronics 486/33-EISA motherboard.  The kernel code for rebooting
>appears to implicitly force a reboot (at least, for most people :-) by walking
>over processor tables, rather than being direct and getting the keyboard
>controller to do it (the way my UNIX SVR4 does it).  Once I get the hang of
>what to tell this controller, I'll try to fix it!

I'm having the same problem with my 386SX 16Mhz/8MB (Morse board) 386BSD
system. 

When the system does a reboot after e.g. a power fail or someone hit the Reset
key so that a fsck has to be performed with a subsequent warm boot then
the system hangs. This is extremely unpleasant because I then always have to drive from home to the University Campus just to press the reset button once
more. Bill Jolitz sent once sent me a comment on this but I lost
that mail.

Is this a kernel bug? Does it depend on the size of the kernel ? Is there a fix?

Now something totally off topic: I'm relatively new to USENET and I often see
followup articles which are neatly formatted, indented with > or >>, containing
a line like "In article <1992Aug15.015736.2417@werple.pub.uu.oz.au> someone writes:".

I'm using dxrn (DecWindows xrn on a DS3100) and it takes me a hell lot of time
to e.g. prepare this article, write the indentation marks, cut the Message-ID
(is this really the correct field to uniquely identify a message?) and paste
it in front of my posting.

How does a wizard read news?

--Chris
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