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From: hofmeist@zorro.informatik..uni-dortmund.de (Thomas Hofmeister)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: German Bundesliga 2
Date: 5 Apr 92 22:24:38 GMT
Originator: hofmeist@zorro

Promotion north

 1 Uerdingen     14  7  6   41-26 35:19       Uerdingen  1-1  St. Pauli
 2 Hannover 96   1O 11  6   31-27 31:23
 3 VfB Oldenburg  8 14  5   45-36 3O:24   VfB Oldenburg  1-O  SV Meppen
 4 Hertha BSC    11  8  8   39-33 3O:24
 5 St. Pauli     1O  8  9   33-33 28:26     Hannover 96  2-1  Hertha BSC
 6 SV Meppen      9  9  9   33-29 27:27

Promotion south

 1 Saarbruecken  12 11  4   44-25 35:19        Freiburg  1-3  FC Homburg
 2 Mannheim      11 12  4   34-2O 34:2O
 3 Freiburg      11  9  6   44-3O 31:21    Saarbruecken  1-O  FC Chemnitz
 4 FC Chemnitz   1O 1O  6   29-22 3O:22
 5 C. Zeiss Jena 11  8  8   32-27 3O:24        Mannheim  2-1  C. Zeiss Jena
 6 FC Homburg     8 1O  9   31-31 26:28

Relegation north

 1 Remscheid      8 13  6   36-31 29:25      Osnabrueck  3-1  Braunschweig
 2 Braunschweig  1O  8  9   42-41 28:26
 3 Osnabrueck    1O  8  9   4O-41 28:26    BW 9O Berlin  O-1  F. Koeln
 4 BW 9O Berlin   8  6 13   32-45 22:32
 5 Brandenburg    6  6 15   34-49 18:36     Brandenburg  1-1  Remscheid
 6 F. Koeln       5  8 14   29-44 18:36

Relegation south

 1 186O Muenchen  7 11  9   26-29 25:29        Mainz 05  1-O  Darmstadt
 2 VfB Leipzig    7 1O  9   36-36 24:28
 3 FC Halle       7 1O 1O   33-43 24:3O   186O Muenchen  O-2  VfB Leipzig
 4 Darmstadt      8  8 11   33-44 24:3O
 5 Mainz 05       6 11  9   31-32 23:29       RW Erfurt  4-O  FC Halle
 6 RW Erfurt      4  6 17   3O-64 14:4O
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: gibson@crisium.geop.ubc.ca (Brad Gibson)
Subject: Three Nation Tournament in Vancouver - May 16-20
Organization: Dept. of Astronomy / Univ. of British Columbia
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 18:30:43 GMT

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Just announced ... international soccer returns to British Columbia next month
with a three-nation tournament featuring Chelsea of the English League, Dundee
U. of the Scottish League, the Vancouver 86ers, and the Victoria All-Stars.
It's an exhibition round-robin format with 4 of the games at Swangard Stadium
in Vancouver and 2 of them in Victoria at Royal Athletic.  The schedule looks
something like this:

May 16     Vancouver v Dundee U.      Swangard       20:30PST
	   Victoria  v Chelsea        Royal Athletic   TBA
May 18     Vancouver v Victoria       Swangard       13:00PST
	   Chelsea   v Dundee U.      Swangard       15:30PST
May 20     Vancouver v Chelsea        Swangard       19:15PST
	   Victoria  v Dundee U.      Royal Athletic 19:00PST

I'll post some form of match report for each of the games in Vancouver.

Note:  The 86ers have played two international games against overseas teams in
their five-year history, losing 2-1 to Portugal's Benfica last year, and tying
Bournemouth of the English League Second Division 2-2 in 1990.

Cheers,
   Brad

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From: Andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: World cup in USA and other ramblings
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:46:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: GTE

I
> Well Andy since you v'e gone to all this trouble of trying to put accross  
> such a godd case then I'll admit that I hadn't thought the Americans seem  
> to have their house in order and are starting to get a half decent team  
> together, But I still think theyr'e crap, and the only American player  
> that I've seen in Europe is John Harkes and Roy Wegerle doesn't count.
> So ye'd kick our arses in American football and we will always kick ye're  
> arses in real football. So let's leave it at that.
> 
Oh, speaking of John Harkes, the US National Team beat Sheffied Wednesday
2-0 last fall.  One thing you might want to do is stop considering that
England is the end all to Europe.  When did you say you had last won the
world cup?  And there are, I think, almost two dozen Americans playing in 
various leagues in Europe and South America including a couple in the 
England second division. And who the #$%@ cares about American Football,
soccer is #1!!!!!!
From: mills_j@mscf.med.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: USA - China
Date: 6 Apr 92 00:58:03 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Med School Computer Facility

> USA beat China, 5-0 yesterday in Palo Alto, California before ~32,000 people.
> The US had been winless in their last 5 games, which included the tour to
> Central & South America and Spain & Morroco. The US managed to score only 
> once during those matches.
> 
> 
> USA 5     -    China 0
> Perez (2)
> Wynalda (2)
> Kinnear
     Caught this game on Univision and was a bit surprised to see the U.S.
team so dominant.  I've seen us both win and draw before but always got
the impression that any goals we scored were 3/4 luck, and the only part
of the team that deserved kudos was the backfield.  This game was dif-
ferent.  Is the Chinese team that bad internationally?
     Of course, Perez's fabulous goal on the direct in the first half
would have been a goal against any team, anywhere.  Beautiful.  And
this from a team I've seen botch every penalty kick they've ever taken....



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             |"Why would anyone want both an MD and a PhD?"|
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From: 627ma@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: The Best Soccer Movie
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:30:18 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University


In article <1992Apr13.151758.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, clg308@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> In article <72943@netnews.upenn.edu>, zabinski@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (EZ) writes:
>> In article <HANS.92Mar31150325@ravn.iesd.auc.dk> hans@iesd.auc.dk (Hans Huttel) writes:
>>>
>>>...and now over to something completely different:
>>>
>>>The other day I was trying to find out if there were any interesting
>>>works of fiction (films, plays, novels etc.) where football plays an
>>>essential part. Oodly enough, off the top of my head I could think of
>>>very few actual examples.
>> 
>> Far and away the best soccer movie is entitled "VICTORY", starring 
>> Max von Sydow, Michael Caine, and Sly Stallone. It also includes a 
>> host of real soccer legends (Pele, Bobby Moore, etc.). The movie is about
>> a soccer game staged between POWs and German soldiers during World War II.
>> 
>> It is a classic. The soccer choreography is great. The plot is unique,
>> clever, novel, and interesting. The acting is quite good.
>> 
>> Eric Zabinski
>> zabinski@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
> 
> Just to say the film was actually called "ESCAPE TO VICTORY"


Somebody else posted a reply saying that both titles apply. To end all
discussion (I hope!), yes, that is true. 
I first watched the movie about 10 years ago in Singapore and it was
called "Escape to Victory" but over here in the U.S.A., I recently
rented the video (with some difficulty) and it was titled just plain
"Victory".

Maeu.
From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andy Busa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Strong Weekend for US Teams
Date: 8 Apr 92 11:30:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: rocky.andy-4/8/92+7:26:04?AM
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: GTE/SCSD

> It basically had him saying that the US team wasn't his top priority -
> that playing professional football in the UK (with Sheffield Wednesday
> of course) was higher - ie he wouldn't sacrifice his club place for a US
> place if it came down to it. So if the US coach required a squad to be
> together permanently just for the world cup (which they've done before
> haven't they??), he might have to miss out. 

I think what Harkes meant was that he wouldn't play for the US in 
exhibitions if Sheffield Wednesday asked him not to.  But I don't
think that he would give up a shot at the World Cup in his own country.
And lets face it, Bora will do anything he needs to to make sure that
Harkes has a place on the squad because they need his ability.

Andy
Xref: sparky rec.sport.soccer:5531 soc.culture.french:3142
From: scs08946@zach.fit.edu ( DELAYE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.french
Subject: European cup final in soccer on american TV ?
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:45:53 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

My request is almost totally in the subject. I absolutely need to watch the
final of the european cup of cup winners : Monaco - Breme, but I live in Florid
Does anybody know where and when this will occur, and if there is a chance I
can watch this match on TV (cable or other)? Thank you in advance.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: jaz29707@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim Zim MST3K/TwinPeaks Fani)
Subject: Re: PREDICTION 1994: WHO WILL WIN?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:35:39 GMT

james@HISOFT.COM (James C. Armstrong) writes:

>-> > Who will be the four semi-finalists?

>	USA-ENGLAND
>	SCOTLAND-UKRAINE

>-> > Who will meet in the final?

>	USA-SCOTLAND

>-> > Who will be World Champions?

>	US
James, I hope you were kidding.
	First of all, we don't even know who is in whose bracket yet.
	So this whole idea of predicting the sem-finals is crazy.
	And about the US chances, James, just be glad that the US is hosting
	the WC and that we finally get to see some REAL football in the US.
		-Written by a US soccer supporter that thinks you are taking 
		America's chances WAY to far...we'll be lucky to get out of 
		the second round.....
		-jim zimmermanA
From: glenn@inmos.co.uk (Glenn Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Derby County??
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:52:29 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@inmos.co.uk (Glenn Hill)
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK.

In article <1992Apr8.123414.9464@axion.bt.co.uk>
kfolan@zaphod.axion.bt.co.uk writes:

>Sorry Garry. Thought you'd have got this one right. Derby County have
>a ground in the city of Derby and so represent that city (and the
>surrounding area). Many Derbyshire based people are closer to
>Notingham and so support either Forest or County, and further north
>the real football aficianados follow the Spireites :-). I suppose in
>the north west of Derbyshire there are many United and City supporters
>(Manchester that is), and possibly Stockport etc.
                                    ^^^^^^^^^

and that's the other one I don't understand (as well as Newport) - why
Stockport COUNTY?

Glenn.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: mehta@watson.bms.com (Pradhyuman Mehta)
Subject: Re: Please post the USA: CHINA result.
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Bristol Myers Squibb Pharmaceutical Research Institute
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:16:00 GMT

In article <andy-4/8/92+12:00:37?PM@rocky>, andy@rocky.gte.com (Andy Busa) writes...
> 
>> I wouldn't fancy the chances of the US team against most English
>> first division sides.
> 
>For what it is worth, a very weaken US team beat Sheffield Wednesday 2-0
>last fall.

I guess Wednesday must have played their 3rd team in this game :-) No to demean 
the US team, but I doubt that they'd do well in your scenario. Just a gut 
reaction.

Cheers,

Prej.
From: futrena@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Where/when...
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:45:24 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

There is a large amount of talk about the 94 World Cup.  Does anybody know the
tentative dates and place or even the possible dates/places?  Please mail it to
me.


Nathan
From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andy Busa)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: World Cup in USA
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:22:09 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: GTE/SCSD


> However I also expect the World Cup in 94 to be a minor disaster. The
> problem with the game here, is that it has great difficulty of catching
> on with the average American. 

This is changing every day.  In fact I have people going with me to the
Ireland-Italy and Ireland-Portugal games who are only going because
they heard how much fun last years US-Ireland game was.

>Many times I have felt very frustrated by
> how the media ignore soccer/football, even the US games. For the big
> networks all that counts is the expected number of viewers. So, that
> will make good coverage very unlikely. 

I think this is true to a point but FIFA will never allow poor coverage
to happen.  Whoever wins the TV contract will have to prove that they can
do the job.

>For attendance, the US team will probably not be very succesful. 

This is just plain wrong.  The US has played to crowds of over 30000 in
there last ten games and those games are only considered exhibitions. 
We are expecting to crowds of over 60000 for the two US Cup game that will
be played here in June.  And I'm sure the US games in Chicago are going
to sell over 40000 for the US Cup games.  You also seem to forget what
happened the last time that a major soccer event happened in the country.
The olympics in 1984 broke every atendance record that America had ever
held for olympic viewing.  You also seem to forget that Americans love
a big event and you can't get much bigger than the World Cup.


> So the result : after a big hype and circus in the first round, a minor
> disaster for the reputation of the game.

I agree with the hype, but that will actually be good for the game.  The
more positive attention that is given to the Cup by the media the better
chance of a legacy being left so that we can start up a league soon after.

> I hope I am wrong.
Stay positive and things will turn out fine!!!!
From: mjf@cns.umist.ac.uk (Martin Ford)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Man City are Man U Lovers
Date: 6 Apr 92 15:16:05 GMT
Organization: UMIST, Manchester, England.

lah014@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Richard Marshall) writes:

>In article <1992Apr6.091420.23799@tcom.stc.co.uk> tim@tcom.stc.co.uk (Tim Kennedy) writes:
>>Last Saturday proved what I would never have believed- Man
>>City are deep lovers of Man United.  They battered Leeds
>>4-0 at Maine Rd thereby depriving the pride of Yorkshire
>>of the critical points.

Wash your mouth out, City loving the RAGS, NEVER!!!!

I know we beat you, SORRY.

>>They had gone a month without scoring a goal then play out
>>of their skins to beat Leeds who were not playing badly at
>>all.  The fact is Peter Reid and his boys are desparate to
>>help the Red Filth win the title and are going to lose to
>>them gracefully on Tuesday night to prove this yet again.

How dare you accuse City of being desparate to help the Red Filth
(a.k.a. RAGS). I wanted City to do the honourable thing and lose to
Leeds then stuff the RAGS at OT on Tuesday. But Leeds were confused
and totally outplayed by City playing REAL football not the Route One
cr*p of late. City deserved their win, but now I only hope we can go
to OT and do everybody a favour (including Leeds) and win. But knowing
City the Leeds match was a one off and we'll end up getting beat AGAIN. 

>I think City may do a QPR and score 4 again. What was the result at Maine Road
>a couple of years ago (5-1 was it ?!)

The 5-1 match was a rarity, which will no doubt never be repeated. We
can all live in hope though. It's about time City won at OT and maybe
this is the year. A single goal will do. (PLEASE)


Cheers

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**  Martin Ford         Manchester City, through and through  **
**  mjf@uk.ac.umist.cns                                       **
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From: nrp@btcase.bt.co.uk (Reece Peacock)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: World Cup 94 - Shirts
Date: 7 Apr 92 09:34:45 GMT
Organization: British Telecom, Lion House, London.

rxl@crosfield.co.uk (#richard lovelock) writes:


>  A report in todays 'Daily Express' states that FIFA have
>  announced that for the USA World Cup 94 all players will
>  have their names on the back of their shirts, and will
>  also have their numbers on the front as well as the backs
>  of shirts.

>  Is this really needed ?

Well obviously it is for the US. Given that the whole squad will also sit on the
bench (a big bench!), I seem to recall another lesser sport which this reminds me
of, it's on the tip of my tongue, nope it's gone!

Reece

      Leicester City            /\___/\  Reece Peacock
          Football Club        _`\o o/'
   ___________ --~~~~--------~~_ _\_/    usenet : nrp@btcase.bt.co.uk
  =_          \   "THE FOXES"   ~,              
    ~~------~ __    )~~~~--_ ,__/_-_     "Brian Little's Blue & White Army"
           _-~  ~~--~      ==~    ~=     "Brian Little's Blue & White Army"
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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: European Olympic Qualifiers
Date: 14 Apr 92 17:37:43 GMT
Organization: Federation Internationale de Football Association

biwidar@cs.few.eur.nl (Irsan Widarto) writes:

>Germany did *NOT* qualify. The list should be:

>      1) Spain      (hosts of Ol.Games)
>      2) Scotland   (semi-finalist European Championships under 21)

Scotland does not participate in the Olympics (they are under Great Britain)
and consequently the football team can't make it to Barcelona.

>      3) Denmark    (idem)
>      4) Italy      (idem)
>      5) Sweden     (idem)
>      6) Poland     (best 'loser' European Championships under 21)
>      7) ...
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|                        |  Bayern Mu"nchen - 12xChampions, 8xCup Winner, |
| No News is bad News    |                    3xEC1 and 1xEC2 Winner      |
From: visconm@fog.CS.ORST.EDU (Marcello Visconti)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Copa Libertadores - Result Needed
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:09:36 GMT
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.

Hi!

Can anybody confirm the result Sport Boys (PERU) - At.Nacional (COLOMBIA)?

The game was played Tuesday the 7th in Peru and at halftime the score was
1-0 for At. Nacional. I lost track after that.

Thanx.

Marcello.

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| Computer Science Department       Oregon State University        | 
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From: N.Billing@lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Woking up, *HELP* also needed
Date: 8 Apr 92 10:29:13 GMT
Reply-To: N.Billing@lut.ac.uk (Cordoba)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.

In article <1992Apr7.180640.5330@vax.oxford.ac.uk> kryst14@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Alex Ashcroft) writes:
>In article <9mdhbwlp@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, lah014@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Richard Marshall) writes:
>> Just thought I'd let everyone know that Woking (conquerors of West
>> Bromwich Albion in last season's FA Cup) have assured themselves of
>> promotion to the GM Vauxhall Conference despite still having 7 games
>> left to play.
>> 
>
>I saw this on the news, what I don't understand is why Staleybridge (well clear
>at the top of the HFS loans league) haven't also been promoted.  Is their ground
>not good enough?
>
>                                  Alex

A similar thing happened to Dover FC when they won their league a season or
two back . They were refused entry into the GM because their ground was not
deemed to be of high enough standard , despite their and the council's best
efforts to guarantee that by the start of the new season it would be upto
scratch

Nav
From: pgllooly@unix2.tcd.ie (Paul Gillooly)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Leeds
Date: 10 Apr 92 16:58:09 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin


Who are Leeds playing this weekend ?
From: scogpw@thor (Gordon Walker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Strong Weekend for US Teams
Date: 7 Apr 92 17:26:30 GMT
Organization: University of Wales College at Cardiff
X-Mailer: Cardiff Computing Maths PP Mail Open News Gateway

In article <15837@bunny.GTE.COM> Andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:
|..........  Once we have all of our players
|present we will probably have enough halfbacks to put John Harkes on one
|of the wings.  

Just thought I ought to mention an article about Harkes a short while
back in some magazine (90 minutes??). (I should have put this out at the
time but never got around to it.)

It basically had him saying that the US team wasn't his top priority -
that playing professional football in the UK (with Sheffield Wednesday
of course) was higher - ie he wouldn't sacrifice his club place for a US
place if it came down to it. So if the US coach required a squad to be
together permanently just for the world cup (which they've done before
haven't they??), he might have to miss out. 

I think I'm right with this article (anyone else see it?). I hope Harkes
does play for you US guys as he maybe your best player (do you reckon?).
For one thing - I wonder if the US supporters would get the hang of 
chanting "ooo, aaar, Johnny Harkes - I said ooo, aaar Johnny Harkes"
(as discussed a while back!).
(BTW - he was sub on Saturday, not sure if he came on)

Up the Owls!
gordon
From: mladen@tfl.dk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Bravo Sampdoria
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:16:40 GMT
Organization: TFL, A Danish Telecommunication Research Laboratory


in article <rmf76INNp35@agate.berkeley.edu> 160955r@garnet.berkeley.edu
writes:

>In article <1992Apr3.073937.54159@cc.usu.edu> fajack@cc.usu.edu writes:
>>	I am not a fan of Sampdoria.  But I cannot help to applause
>>them for defeating Red Star Belgrade.  It is a travesty to let Red
>>Star in the final again after what they did last year.
>
>Red Star simply optimized the use of its resources, playing well within
>the rules. If the spectacle was less than enchanting one should not blame
>the actors, but the damn rules, which allowed both Red Star and Argentina
>to reach finals they no business playing in...Also, a real connoisseur
>will equally enjoy displays of both offensive and defensive skills.

Maybe we can also add to this list Steaua Bucharest for their magnificent
performance and great offensive skills shown in the 1986 European Champions 
Cup final against Barcelona?

BTW, did you see any of Red Star Belgrade game in 1990/91 season in European
Champions Cup or any of their matches in recent past?

>Cheers
>
>--
>Radu T. Tomescu at UCBerkeley
>Department of Economics

Regards,

Mladen Cvetkovic
MLADEN@tfl.dk
TFL
Horsholm
Denmark
From: dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Scottish :St Mirren relegated
Date: 9 Apr 92 10:31:23 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.


St Mirren 1    1  Celtic

Well, the nail biting at Love Street is finally over.
Despite a gritty 1-1 draw with Celtic, Airdrie's victory over Hibs effectively
sealed Saints fate and St Mirren are now officially relegated to Division 1

Likely candidates for departure from Love Street are Money, Torfason, Stickroth
and possibly Lambert, none of whom relish playing 1 st Div football next
year.

Dave

:-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-( :-(


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