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From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: Result of news.groups query re: posts being waylaid?
Followup-To: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:18:04 GMT

Since the posts ARE reaching so many sites, we must assume that the problem
lies somewhere outside the originating site.  Perhaps what needs to happen
is to send email to the postmaster@each.site that is having problems
and see what is going on.  Perhaps those sites have decided not to carry
the group.
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From: taob@r-node.gts.org (Brian Tao)
Subject: Re: AppleWorks Classic Text Formatter
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:06:15 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.231712.1@oread.cc.ukans.edu> rhill@oread.cc.ukans.edu (Robert Hill) writes:
>
>     First of all, which commands, if any, should I use inverse text for 
>(subscript, superscript, boldface, underline, etc.)?  

    Turn boldface and underline into inverse and leave everything else out.

>     Should the new page commands be ignored?  

    No, turn them into a clear screen command (^L if you're using the 'gno'
termcap).

>     Should I ignore double and triple space?  

    Keep those around by simulating them with blank lines.

>     Are there any other formatting options that I should handle in a 
>particular way?  

    The left/center/right/full justification options would be nice.  Most
of the man pages seem to have their text full-justified (although I
personally think that looks ugly).

    Support for headers and footers would be really cool (especially for
writing man pages).
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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: GSI is quite nice! One question...
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:21:19 GMT

irie@husc11.harvard.edu (Robert E. Irie) writes:

>hmmm. when I try to run finder from gno, it gives me a message,
>Finder requires Sys 6.0 and 300K of free memory to run.

>Well, I have 6.0 and about 1.2 M free so I am puzzled as to the cause
>of this. As a result I cant run gsi. Help!

  A bug in GNO 1.0 prevents the Finder from working under it.  GSI
works fine with other desktop applications.
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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:00:05 -0500 
From: Gregory Ross Thompson <gregt+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: uEmacs + GNO
	<Bxw14o.Enr@CAM.ORG>

vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) writes:
> BTW, you do you specify that value to the chtyp command without having to
> convert it to decimal? And also, chtyp does not like "-l exec".  Anyone?

  I assume you meant "how do you...".  Well, since '$' is a special
character for the shell, you have to escape it with a '\'.

  Should chtyp like "-l exec"?  What's -l?  Again, I wrote that one,
and I sure don't remember -l being a valid flag.  -t sets the type, so
-t exe should work, but not exec, since exec isn't a real filetype...

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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: uEmacs + GNO
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:22:09 GMT

zane@ddsw1.mcs.com (Sameer Parekh) writes:

>	I purchased the alpha version of the program, whose FM for the
>Kernal is *only* 12 pages long and simply mentions that uEmacs doesn't work.
>I did read TFM.
>	Thank you.

  Actually, to be picky, the aplha version of GNO mentions the auxType
setting.. hmm, let me see...

[ pulling out the Version 1.0 draft sold at KansasFest '91 ]

  Okay, I take that back, it's not in there.  At any rate, I answered
your question in email. :)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Vindicating TelCom
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:35:19 GMT

vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) writes:

>BTW, what's a good way to "transact" with my Unix account without leaving
>GNO? I tried TelCom, but its terminal emulation (sorry Jawaid) really
>sucks. Like it writes ^J when it gets ^J. It should perform the action,
>not display the character!

   Um, not the last time I checked, and certainly not right now. :)
It's possible you hit OA-P during your session.. OA-P is set to
'Preferences', but the only Preference setting toggles control-character
show on and off.  So give TelCom another try.  The vt100 really is one
of the best.

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From: chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan)
Subject: Crash............
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:31:59 GMT

I am in the process of learning C, and obviously, I have some really dinky C
programs.  Well, this one crashes...in very weird ways.  Take a look:

-- cut here --

/* prob8.c -- Programming Exercises (Chapter VI, Problem 8) */
#include <stdio.h>
#define MAX 7
main()
{
        int i, integers[MAX];
 
        printf("Please enter 8 integer values below:\n");
 
        for(i = 0; i <= MAX; i++)
                scanf("%d", &integers[i]);
        printf("Right back at you...\n");
 
        for(i = MAX; i >= 0; i--)
                printf("%d ", integers[i]);
        printf("\n");
}


-- cut here --

Ok...this program simply inputs eight integers and then prints them back out
in reverse order....like I said, not on the order of your typical GNO program
:)  But, it still crashes.....

I put this through Splat!(tm) and when it finished (it actually runs all the
way through with no problems) Splat!(tm) printer something like:

"Splat! requires Byteworks compatible shell to run"

Before I ran splat, I was running into problems with the program not returning
to the shell prompt...I'd hit return, and sometimes it would return.  At other
times, it crashed....and since GNO traps crashes (as best it can) that just
kept on happening.  At other times, I've seen the usage message for gsh come
up....

usage: gsh bla bla bla

for no reason, and then I can get control of the shell again.  When I ran it
in Orca, after it ran through (I'd input my 8 numbers and it would print them
back successfully) it hung...then I proceeded to press RETURN once...it
printed garbage numbers back (8 of them) as if they were input...made no
sense.

The odd thing is that this program works....it just won't exit back to the
shell....does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong?  Keep in mind that
I'm learning C (put your hands together) -- so, now I'm stuck...it's more than
likely something I'm doing, and since I can't check my code to an "answer" I
have to rely on the expertise of those here :)

Oh, and my appologies to Abe...the little birdy has stopped singging and may
even be dead :)

Thanks for puttin up with the s*it James --- /ignore don't work here :)

Amrit
achauhan@math.macalstr.edu
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From: mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com (Morgan Davis)
Subject: Re: -- Various --
Organization: ProLine [pro-sol], Rancho San Diego, CA
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 11:40:14 PST

In <1992Nov07.044408.17988@r-node.gts.org>
taob@r-node.gts.org (Brian Tao) writes:

>    Morgan says he's basically had enough of making uemacs do proper screen
>writes (rather than directly to video memory) and still run at an acceptable
>speed.

That's true.  I wrote a version of the Apple II i/o stuff that used the
Console Driver and it was so sluggish that it was more annoying than the
direct video blasting under GNO now.


 /\/\  Morgan Davis Group (619/670-0563)
/ /__\  Internet: mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com
From: fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: GNO & SwitchIT ( SIT )
Date: 17 Nov 92 13:16:49 PST
Organization: BBS

I have some questions regarding GNO and SIT.  I think this should be included
in the FAQ.

What kind of applications can gno multi-task?  And what kind of applications
can SIT multi-task.

I would also like to some _minimum_ support for P8 with GNO.  I think many of
us can agree that PT3 is simply the best telecom program available for the GS
right now ( overall ).  I would like to be able to run it when I get GNO.

Since GNO can terminate and resume processes, I see no problem of terminating
processes, run P8 stuff, return to the shell, and then resume the processes.  
If would be even nicer if Greg would make PT3 more gs/os aware...  lowercase
support, better yet, FST support.  Break the 63.5k editor limit.

I heard that SIT includes stack swapping; so direct page don't really run out.
How does GNO handle the limited bank 0 space?  Will stack swapping be included
in v1.1?  Does GNO context switch prefixes too?

Thanks.

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From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Subject: Re: Vindicating TelCom
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 03:22:22 GMT

bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>   Um, not the last time I checked, and certainly not right now. :)
>It's possible you hit OA-P during your session.. OA-P is set to
>'Preferences', but the only Preference setting toggles control-character
>show on and off.  So give TelCom another try.  The vt100 really is one
>of the best.

Yeah, I think I played arounf in the menus before I used it. So I might have
selected Preferences and wondered why nothing happened.

As you can see in the EMail I sent you, I got it working.

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Oh, By the way, if I look at the top of this article, it says bazyar@teal.csn.org, but on the bottom it says bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu. Any difference? Just wondering

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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: sciibin compiled under GNO?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:58:26 GMT

Matt Ackeret <unknown@apple.com> writes:

>damn, I saw SSCII, but thought it was the binscii encoder, not decoder.
>ohwell.

  It does _both_. :-)

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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Crash............
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:11:42 GMT

David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
[..]
>You can also use the shellid() call to see whether you were
>launched from a shell: you will get the string "BYTEWRKS" under
>ORCA/Shell, or a NULL pointer if launched from GS/OS.  GNO probably
>returns "GNO      " (padded to 8 characters), but as I don't have it,
>I can't say exactly.

  Actually, GNO returns BYTEWRKS :-)  Evidently the APW C libraries
check specifically for a shell ID of BYTEWRKS; thus, we followed
suit.

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From: vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry)
Subject: Re: New stuff on Pindarus
Keywords: chmod, whoami
Organization: Champlain Regional College, St-Lambert QC CANADA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:21:51 GMT

jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes) writes:

>whoami will not work without login, by the way.  using it from console

What is login?

Does it exist for the GS?
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From: behrenss@hphalle6.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: GNO & SwitchIT ( SIT )
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:22:20 GMT
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Jay M. Krell (jmk3@crux2.cit.cornell.edu) wrote:

:   A ProDOS 8 program cannot be "GS/OS aware." It _could_ deal with lowercase
: characters, but _not_ with FST's or GS/OS Drivers, etc. What we really
: need is a GS/OS version of Proterm. 

Like T2 :) But really, a feature in the shell that would it make possible to
write a 'launch' command would be neat. This proposed launch command would
shut down the shell (shutting down any processes in the process :) too),
and then simply launch a program (P8 or S16, doesn't matter) with the all-
famous GQuit call. It'd be at least a way to launch P8 programs, no?

Soenke

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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Crash............
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:15:17 GMT

David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

>In article <bazyar.722027502@teal> bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) writes:
>>   Actually, GNO returns BYTEWRKS :-)  Evidently the APW C libraries
>> check specifically for a shell ID of BYTEWRKS; thus, we followed
>> suit.

>Oh, I see.  :-)

>Does GNO implement all of ORCA/Shell's shell calls?  If so, for which
>version of the shell (1.0, 1.1 or 2.0), and what does it return for the
>VERSION call?


  Yes, GNO implements all ORCA/Shell shell calls, for version 2.0.
VERSION returns whatever number means 2.0.

>How does a shell program distinguish GNO from ORCA?

  There is a GNO system call you can make.  This is a user tool call,
"KernStatus", which takes no parameters.  If the call fails with an
error, GNO is not running.  If the call succeeds and returns some value,
GNO is running.

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:18:02 -0500 
From: Gregory Ross Thompson <gregt+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: MV bug (?)

vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) writes:
> I noticed a problem with the mv portion of cp. Consider this:
> 
> mv /ram5/dir1 /ram5/dir2
> 
> There are 2 possible interpretations: Move dir1 and its contents into dir2
> and rename dir1 to dir2. Logically, if dir2 exists, the former should be
> performed, while if dir2 does not exist, the latter should happen.

  Okay, I wrote it, so I guess I'll respond to this one...  Here are
the two situations (eatme, eatme2, and eatme.again are all directories):

	mv /ram5/eatme /ram5/eatme2

  If eatme2 doesn't exist, the directory eatme gets renamed to eatme2
(ie: eatme2 is the exact same directory tree as eatme, but with a
different name).

	mv /ram5/eatme /ram5/eatme.again

  If eatme.again DOES exist, then the directory tree 'eatme' is moved
into the directory 'eatme.again', not given the name 'eatme.again'.

> The problem is that, rather than doing the second option if dir2 does not
> exist, mv tries to move dir1 into dir2 anyway. An error happens.

  What actually happens, is that a ChangePathGS is called.  That
should work fine...  Does for me...

  Well, in my copy, it works perfectly.

  Jawaid:  have you modified the source code and recompiled for the
GNO distribution?  If so, could you mail me the latest set of sources
so I can see if this is a bug that was introduced after I gave you the
source?

> I would fix it myself, I figured out how, but I have no C compiler!

  Don't bother.  If it really is a bug (which it isn't in mine), I'll
fix it as soon as I get the latest code from Jawaid.

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From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: GNO & SwitchIT ( SIT )
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:14:05 GMT

fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin) writes:

>I have some questions regarding GNO and SIT.  I think this should be included
>in the FAQ.

>What kind of applications can gno multi-task?  And what kind of applications
>can SIT multi-task.

  GNO multitasks just about anything, by design.  However, because the
System tools were _not_ designed that way, there's a limit of 1 desktop
application under GNO (but you can run as many Unix-shell-style apps as
you like, with or without a desktop application- re: GSI NDA).

  Switch-It! doesn't multitask per-se.. it allows you to have several
applications loaded and switch between them very quickly (but manually).
Reason being that Switch-It! has to copy about 64K of memory on a switch.
Try doing that 60 times a second and you'll why GNO does not multitask
desktop apps like XWindows or MultiFinder.

>I would also like to some _minimum_ support for P8 with GNO.  I think many of
>us can agree that PT3 is simply the best telecom program available for the GS
>right now ( overall ).  I would like to be able to run it when I get GNO.

  I'd like to as well, but there are major problems with something like
that. The major one is that GS/OS and ProDOS 8 occupy the same memory
when loaded (not programs, but the operating systems themselves).

>Since GNO can terminate and resume processes, I see no problem of terminating
>processes, run P8 stuff, return to the shell, and then resume the processes.  
>If would be even nicer if Greg would make PT3 more gs/os aware...  lowercase
>support, better yet, FST support.  Break the 63.5k editor limit.

  GNO can _shut down_, and then run a P8, and return to GNO, but GNO can't
simply pause processes and run P8 because programs like Proterm and
AppleWorks 3.0 assume they have free run of memory; they'll overwrite
anything in GS memory whether they really use it or not.

>I heard that SIT includes stack swapping; so direct page don't really run out.
>How does GNO handle the limited bank 0 space?  Will stack swapping be included
>in v1.1?  Does GNO context switch prefixes too?

  GNO won't be stack swapping like SIT does; that's about 20K of copies
(well, make that 40K, 20K in and 20K out) 60 times each second.
GNO does in fact context switch prefixes, but it can simply move a
pointer for those, because I rewrote a significant portion of GS/OS's
application interface to allow that.

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From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Crash............
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 11:09:41 GMT

chauhan@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu (Amrit Chauhan) writes:

>I am in the process of learning C, and obviously, I have some really dinky C
>programs.  Well, this one crashes...in very weird ways.  Take a look:

Ok, let's have a look.

>/* prob8.c -- Programming Exercises (Chapter VI, Problem 8) */
>#include <stdio.h>
>#define MAX 7
>main()
>{

Don't do that. It's not illegal, but better be explicit. I.e.

int
main (int argc, char *argv[])
{

even if you do not use argc and argv.

>        int i, integers[MAX];
>        printf("Please enter 8 integer values below:\n");

Aha. Integers is an array with 7 elements, not 8. Note: with
int array[n] you get an array of n elements, which can be accessed using
array[0] through array[n-1].

So, what you are doing is trash memory.

>        for(i = 0; i <= MAX; i++)
>                scanf("%d", &integers[i]);

Which would be wrong, anyway. When dealing with arrays in a loop, use
asymmetric bounds. Example:
for (i = 0; i < n; i++)
where n is the "size" of our array. The lower bound is exactly "on mark",
the upper bound is one above the end of the array. The good thing about this
is that it's intuitive (as you can use n as bound as opposed to n-1). There
are more advantages, I won't go into them.

I strongly recommend the following book to you: C Traps and Pitfalls, by Andrew
Koenig, ... umm ... I gave it to a friend ... I think Addison Wesley.
Also good books: C - A Reference Manual (better than K&R 2 IMHO), and "Writing
Efficient Programs" by Jon Louis  Bentley, Prentice Hall.

Plus, of course, all the others, but that get's expensive :) (All the others
being: Algorithms in C, The Art of Programming by Knuth, Programming Pearls,
etc. etc.)

>}

And here you should return (EXIT_SUCCESS) (after including <stddef.h> of
course), as you have defined main as returning an int (by not specifying
anything). That's a good idea, anyway, otherwise the shell gets a random
result back.

>shell....does anyone have any idea what I'm doing wrong?  Keep in mind that
>I'm learning C (put your hands together) -- so, now I'm stuck...it's more than
>likely something I'm doing, and since I can't check my code to an "answer" I
>have to rely on the expertise of those here :)

No problem. Let me repeat: Get that C Traps and Pitfalls. If I had had that
when learning C, I'd had saved myself a lot of trouble.

Soenke
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From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2.gno
Subject: Result of news.groups query re: posts being waylaid?
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:30:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: charnel.1e8ib8INN2s7
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu

Well, the subject pretty much says it all.  Jawaid, have you gotten a 
reponse back from a News.God about posts not arriving at sites yet?            

Jus' wondering. 
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