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From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy Sopicki)
Subject: Re: Space Rangers 3rd Episode & season so far.
Organization: ProLine [pro-amber] -- Spring Valley, Ca
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 11:22:03 PST

I too must join the ranks of fans of the show. I've watched each story so
far and have seen it improve. Its a fun show to watch. Its sort of like
watching versions of the pulp magazines I used to read when I was a kid.
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From: abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick)
Subject: Re: QL: Dr Ruth continuity error
Keywords: glasses
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:09:17 GMT

In <Jan.21.15.06.32.1993.11851@gandalf.rutgers.edu> dak@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Dorothy Klein) writes:

>SPIOLER for "Dr. Ruth", 1/19/93 Quantum Leap episode, though this is really 
>minor....



















>	When Dr. Ruth arrives, it is without her eyeglasses -- Al brings her a
>replacement pair along with the jacket  (Fermi suits look better on some
>folks than others?).
>	When the vampire leaps in, the first thing he does is remove
>HIS eyeglasses!

>	Just an observation,
>	Dotty

Sorry, I don't see the error. I thought they were the ones that Ruth was
wering and since a leap happens instantly the glasses went from one nose
directly to the next. I thought this was a great way to avoid an error.

Alan Bick
From: x92joslin@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: TIME TRAX
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:40:02 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University



VERY,VERY POOR COLLEGE STUDENT I humbly ask when is Time Trax on and what
network??
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From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: Time Trax
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 03:44:14 GMT

In article <mumble> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:

[...]

>Could someone explain his "car alarm" gizmo to me?  What do the three buttons
>do?  I didn't catch that part.

First button fires a 'stun pellet' (or somesuch thing) that will keep
a person unconcious for a few minutes.  Second button will knock
someone out for a few hours.  Third button fires a pellet of the time-
travel drug (prepping the target for retrieval) and it also
conveniently puts the target into a coma (for how long was not
stated).  

-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)                               /|
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)           o| |-
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."                              /| \|
From: dak@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Dorothy Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: QL: Continuity (was Dr Ruth continuity error)
Keywords: glasses, Bisquik, Quantum Leap
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:50:27 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


	Mea culpa.  the glasses stayed in 1999, the face under them
switched.

	On a lighter note, my tape of Liberation seems to show a UPC
bar-code on the bottom of the Bisquik box.  I thought those came in 
the 1970s.  And there seems to be a bottle of Mrs. Butterworth's 
syrup on the counter (not sure, it was never in sharp focus), which is also a
later product.  I just hope they got a nice endorsement payoff for
using the Bisquik in the show -- maybe they'll put the recipe for 
"griddlecakes a la Beckett" on the back of the box as a tie-in?  :)

	Dotty Klein
... considering how much stretch there must be in a Fermi suit, such that it
fits both Dr. Ruth and a very large bouncer ("Maybe, Baby")...  Do they 
give a Nobel Prize in Textiles?
From: finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Quantum Leap
Date: 28 Jan 93 07:00:29 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

jsfjp@acad1.alaska.edu (PERRICONE FRANK J) writes:

>Well, it works better than nothing... guess I should stop picking nits. 
>Whatever GTF is, it's very America-prejudiced.

GTF is Don Bellisario, who is very America-prejudiced due to the show's
budget complaints.  End of explanation.


-- 
* Tracy E. Finifter                     * My .sig's stuck in 1956 with a     *
*  finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu         * brain like swiss cheese and I'm    *
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From: paris@zygon.dev.cdx.mot.com (Gregory M. Paris)
Subject: Re: Time Traxxxxxxxx
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, Massachusetts
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:22:59 GMT

ps70awg@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (mel rupinski) writes:
>BTW, I wonder what would happen if one of the future baddies were to be
>caught by the 1993 police, then incarcerated and sent to jail.  I guess
>with some of them in high places with connections, she or he would 
>probably get off easy (or something like that).

Similarly, I was wondering what would happen if a 1993 person
were shot with the Red Pellet (TM).  Could that person be taken
to 2193?

-- 
Greg Paris <paris@merlin.dev.cdx.mot.com>
Motorola Codex, 20 Cabot Blvd C1-30, Mansfield, MA  02048-1193
"Your Plastic Pal who's fun to be with." TM Sirius Cybernetics
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From: ruderg@aix.rpi.edu (Gregory Allen Ruderman)
Subject: Re: Time Trax
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:48:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.141142.21903@athena.mit.edu> amd@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis) writes:
>>, mmcalees@cs16.UVic.CA (Michael McAleese) writes:
>|>    After viewing the two hour debut movie of Time Trax, I have to give
>|> it the old thumbs down. It wasn't exactly that it was bad... it just 
>|> wasn't good.
>
>
>Actually I loved it.  You can't build a story on SPFX alone.  The SF
>elements created a solid atmosphere and background for the story. I liked
>the acting and the actors.  I thought it was very well done.
>
>Points I got a kick out of:
>SPOILERS
>
>
>
>The Pentagon as a prison.  I found this very believable.
>
>The modern version of peepholes for doors.
>
>Selma's disguise as a credit card
>
>
	I enjoyed the allusions to whites as a minority.  probably the most
realistic thing in the whole intro.  And the fact that they paid more than 
just lip service to it.  Take another look at the compositions of the crowd
at the U.N. President's assassination...

>
>Anyway, does anyone know if/when this will be a series?
>
>
	In the Albany, NY area, the second episode airs this saturday....
>-- 
****************************************************************************
	More trifiling trivia from the mind of ruderg@rpi.edu
		Gregory A. Ruderman....A.K.A Dooley.the.Mauve

	"Everyone remember where we parked!"
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From: savoia@sw.stratus.com (Rick Savoia)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: last episode of Galactica
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:10:30 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: watts.sqa.stratus.com

In article <93027.022038PB5329A@auvm.american.edu>, Patrick Barton <PB5329A@auvm.american.edu> writes:
> Could anyone give me a brief plot description of the last regular episode
> of Battlestar Galactica?  Did this involve Earth at all?  I mean the
> regular series, not the Galactica '80...I was just wondering how they
> resolved the original series....thanks....
> 
> always a Galactica fan....patrick
> 

They never really did resolve it.  In the last regular
episode, Apollo is using a tele/radioscope type device
high up above the Galatica's engines.  He captures 
part of a transmission that he thinks might be from 
Earth.  They take the recording of the transmission to
the lab but before they can analyze it they discover
a Cylon Basestar nearby.  The Galacticans decide that 
they are tired of running and attack the basestar, 
destroying it.  Part of this was Apollo and Starbuck
using a captured Cylon ship to board the Basestar and
plant bombs.  After all this is over, we find Apollo
back in the observation dome looking for more evidence
of the Earth transmissions.  Starbuck comes and
gets him to come to the celebration party and on the
way out, he bumps the observation device he had just turned
off.  As they leave, we see a transmission of the Eagle
landing on the moon from the Apollo 11 project.  I think
we were meant to take this as the Galacticans being on 
the right track.

-- 
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Rick Savoia                     | "I'm just very selective
savoia@watts.sqa.stratus.com    | about the reality 
Rick_Savoia@vos.stratus.com     | I accept" - Calvin
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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: Battlestar
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:19:15 GMT


	The series DIDN'T end.  The major goal of the Galactica
people was to bring our technology up to their level so we
could help fight the Cylons.  But, they kept getting waylaid by
other things.  In fact, the last episode, "The Return of
Starbuck", had nothing to do with Earth and only revealed the
past of Dr. Zee.
							-Quinn
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From: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)
Subject: Quantum Leap - Americans only 
Distribution: world
Organization: Job hunters use Parachute
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:40:47 +0000


In article <1993Jan20.230055.7104@sfu.ca> grant@tiamat.ucs.sfu.ca writes:

> Does that mean Queen's/President's english?? :<)  West coast humour.

If you've read the talk.bizare transcript of the "Camillagate" bugging of
a phone call between Prince Charles and Camilla thingy then you be
wondering about the state of the English language if THAT is an example of
the (future) King's English!

Al: "Gooshie centre Sam on HRH and sort him out" :-)

But then why not just centre Dr Ruth upon HRH and really get him sorted
out?

Regards, Trevor.

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From: nml@csa.bu.edu (Newton Loui)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Continuity (was Dr Ruth continuity error)
Date: 24 Jan 93 05:20:36 GMT
Organization: Boston University Computer Science Department
In-reply-to: dak@gandalf.rutgers.edu's message of 23 Jan 93 01:50:27 GMT

Regarding the apparent continuity error WRT the eyeglasses:

(1)  When Sam leaps, his body leaps into the leapee.  The leapee's
body leaps into the future.  Sam leaps into the past and the physical
aura of the person (or animal) he has leapt into surrounds him.

Therefore, when Sam leapt into Dr. Ruth in 1985, she in turn leapt
into the Waiting Room in the future *without* her glasses.  (I can
believe that Project Quantum Leap has its own optical department;
after all, M.I.T. does - it even has its own health maintenance
organization with health plan-dedicated medical personnel.  We don't
know the extent of PQL's facilities.)

When Dr. Ruth leapt out and the "maybe-vampire" leapt in, the glasses
then were on *his* face.  Either he didn't need them or most likely
the prescription didn't fit him, so he took them off.

(2) We, the audience, see Sam Beckett himself in the past - in this
case, in a dress with glasses as Dr. Ruth.  Everyone else, including
Al, sees the leapee, Dr. Ruth.  We and Sam only see Dr. Ruth by way of
reflections in mirrors or windows.

In the future, we see Dr. Ruth.  Al and everyone else at PQL sees Sam.
The leapee has leapt into Sam's physical aura in the future.  The same
way that Sam can see when he leapt into a blind musician, Dr. Ruth
needs her glasses in the Waiting Room because she can't see without
them, see?  8-)

(3) Since it's Sam's physical aura in the Waiting Room, any clothes
he's wearing - the Fermi suit - still fits his aura.  Dr. Ruth
probably didn't like the look of the suit - not clinical enough for
her.  So it doesn't matter the size of the leapee, Sam's clothes will
always fit Sam's aura in the future.  Lastly,

(4) In "How the Tess Was Won," Sam never looked into a mirror until
near the end, so he (and we) never knew that the leapee wore glasses.

Hope this helps.

nml
--
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		  nml@csa.bu.edu (non-work related)
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From: bwebster@pages.com (Bruce F. Webster)
Subject: Re: Space Rangers 3rd Episode & season so far.
Reply-To: bwebster@pages.com
Organization: Pages Software Inc.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:03:35 GMT

In article <an41126@pro-amber.cts.com> rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (Randy  
Sopicki) writes:
> I too must join the ranks of fans of the show. I've watched each story so
> far and have seen it improve. Its a fun show to watch. Its sort of like
> watching versions of the pulp magazines I used to read when I was a kid.

That's probably as good a summary as any:  the 90's version of space opera.  
It's telling that my kids want to watch the episodes over and over--something  
they've never done with ST:TNG.  ..bruce..
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From: LALEAK01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (LINDA A. LEAKE / SCC)
Subject: WANTED: episodes of Battlestar Gallactica and Buck Rogers
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:02:27 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11
Organization: University of Louisville

Hello, I am looking for episodes of Battlestar and Buck Rogers, I just read a 
post from someone looking for the same thing and I think the response to it 
was uncalled for.. {just my opinion}.
If anyone can help me locate these episodes terms for payment and shipping
costs can be arranged... 


--Linda A. Leake--
--University of Louisville--
--Louisville, Kentucky-- 
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From: roy@watson.ibm.com
Subject: Re: Time Trax
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:12:55 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.16 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Reply-To: roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In <1993Jan21.112231.6098@sol.UVic.CA> mmcalees@cs16.UVic.CA (Michael McAleese) writes:
>   After viewing the two hour debut movie of Time Trax, I have to give
>it the old thumbs down. It wasn't exactly that it was bad... it just 
>wasn't good.
>   I'm glad I taped Space Rangers, which was running concurrently. 
>Does anyone else think that was a classic "James T. Kirk vs. the Alien
>Race" episode? The show is cheesy, pure fromage, but I enjoyed the one
>hour of it far more that the two hours of Time Trax. (Like how I kept
>that digression returning to the subject line?)
>
>-- 
>*     mmcalees@csr.uvic.ca (Michael McAleese) : I speak only for me...       *
>  "Man can believe the impossible, but never the improbable." - Oscar Wilde
>  (For snooping governments: heroin, cocaine, FBI, CSIS, CIA, albatross...)

Sorry, I liked it, a lot.  I didn't tape Space Ranger, I just watched
Time Trax instead.  I would rather not put the wear and tear on my VCR
to record SR.  If its on against 90210 and some other network trash,
I will probably watch it.  However, if Time Trax stays in this timeslot,
then I will just miss Space Rangers.  It just ain't that good, IMHO.

As for TT, well, I thought it was good.  It portrayed a pretty good
vision of the world 200 years from now as far as technology goes.
It portrays a pretty dismal social picture, though.  Kinda the
looks like the writers do not share Roddenbury's optimism.  Anyway,
the show was good.  The SELMA character was very good, and it
appears that it will provide a number of plot possibilities.

As far as the ratings of the scifi pilots so far, here you
go:

    Space Rangers=5/10     Time Trax=8/10     Deep Space 9=9/10

Regards,
Tom Rogers
roy@trigger.watson.ibm.com
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: Time Trax
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:20:53 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1993Jan22.125559.31440@watson.ibm.com>, roy@watson.ibm.com writes:
> In <1993Jan22.080641.15530@uhura.neoucom.edu> wlrc@uhura.neoucom.edu 
(William R. Cruce) writes:
>>
>>I find it difficult to believe that in 2193 (or whenever) people
>>who want to read 1993 newspapers will be allowed to check out yellowed
>>old actual PAPER copies...

> Also, who gives a crap?  My pet peeve is people who watch scifi shows
> looking for low tech inconsistencies.  The show was still very enjoyable
> with this very small oversight.  Do you feel superior now that you
> have pointed out this error?

*yawn*  This sort of thing has been re-hashed again and again.  Listen Tom,
here's a fact of the Net: some people like to point out small errors, others
don't.  Why don't you relax and let people talk about what they want, and not
flame them and insult them.

If looking for small logical mistakes in TV shows doesn't float your boat, then
ignore those posts.  If it bothers you THAT much, just don't read this
newsgroup.

Greg Bole                          "I always wanted to be an orphan.  I could 
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu          have, if it wasn't for my parents."
                                         Gary Oldman in _Prick Up Your Ears_
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From: schouten@sp95.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten)
Subject: Re: Star Trek spinoffs
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R & D
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:58:55

In article <1993Jan22.201257.17622@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> lizb@banyan.com writes:
> Someone here at work told me she read an article a number of months ago that
> said there were *two* spinoffs of Star Trek coming this season.  DS9 is the
> obvious one; her memory is that Space Rangers was supposed to be the other.

Space Rangers is definitely NOT a star trek spinoff.
(Nor is Time Trax, Babylon 5 or the new Kung Fu series).

Dale
schouten@uiuc.edu
From: shkelnik@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Leslie Shkolnik)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 03:39:10 GMT
Subject: Re: QL - What does leapee know
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv

/ hpcc01:rec.arts.sf.tv / aba@westmont.EDU (Anne Anderson) /  1:15 pm  Jan 21, 1993 /
>I like to speculate on how the leapee will react when he returns (usually
>in the middle of a situation at least as confusing as the one that Sam
>leaps into!) and I'm wondering if the poor devils are just sent back with
>no knowledge of what Sam has done to alter their lives.  Some of the episodes
>seem to bring out the point that whatever Sam does, it has to be something
>that the leapee won't just reverse when s/he returns.  Does it make sense
>to speculate that Al usually fills the leapee in on what's happening when
>he talks to them in the waiting room?  
>
>According to what I've read, supposedly most of the leapees think they have
>been captured by extraterrestrials.  That might make it a bit difficult for
>Al to explain what is going on.
>
>Any comments?      
>
>Anne
>
>My .sig is a hologram, so only Sam can see it...
>----------
>


I'd like to see what happens after they leap back as well.  It would be great
to have Sam put them in a compromising position (i.e. proposing to someone)
and see what happens when they come back.  Based on Double Identity, they
don't remember a thing, so it could be fun to see what happens.  Even though
we wouldn't see much of Sam and Al, it would be worth it for one episode.


Leslie
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leslie@hpprsd1.mayfield.hp.com
From: shkelnik@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Leslie Shkolnik)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:23:54 GMT
Subject: Re: QL: Dr. Ruth
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv


>SOME women who report sexual harrassment ARE lying or insane.  And since there
>have been a few leaps already where we met some of them (Raped, for instance,
>and to a certain extent What Price Gloria? come to mind), it wouldn't be
>entirely bad to have heard the other side of the story.  It DOES happen.  Sam
>could certainly have made a reference, via memory (even if it is Swiss-cheesed) 
>to remind us that it's sometimes the truth... the whole mystery of it could
>have been done a lot better, and in such a way that we could have been reminded
>of both facts: that women who report sexual harrassment aren't always lying or
>insane, but that sometimes they are, and most importantly, that you can't judge
>without looking into it.
>----------

She was NOT lying in RAPED, he was.  At the end, he tries again!  Did you 
miss the end of the show?  In What Price Gloria, the boss was a creep there
as well.  I do agree that in real life some might do it for fame or notoriety, 
but it hasn't happend on Quantum Leap yet!


Leslie
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From: frederic@parc.xerox.com (Ron Frederick)
Subject: Re: Tomorrow People: Tonight!!!
Keywords: Tomorrow People jaunt
Organization: Xerox PARC
Date: 26 Jan 93 04:05:50 GMT

buc@world.std.com (Quantum Buc) writes:

>Okay!  Just got off the phone with Nickelodeon.  They had no explanation as
>to why it's not listed in the TV Guide, but the Tomorrow People (the new
>show) will be on tonight from 8:00 - 9:00 PM (U.S. EST), and then 
>Tuesday-Thursday from 8:00 - 8:30 PM.  
>
>(This week only. No comment on rerunning it.)
>
Well, it is now 8:05pm PST, and I'm staring at an episode of "Get Smart" on
Nick. I don't know what they did on the east coast, but around here the TV
Guide was right. :-(

>Hope that sets some panicked hearts at rest. (It did mine!)

Thanks for trying, Buc -- I got your message with only minutes to spare, but it
would have been enough if the folks at Nick had been right. Was it on where you
were?
--
--
Ron Frederick
frederick@parc.xerox.com
From: mre@kepler.unh.edu (Monty Python's Life of MikE)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: Continuity (was Dr Ruth continuity error)
Date: 24 Jan 1993 20:05:13 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

In article <05m3jy-@rpi.edu> dzembj@rpi.edu writes:
>In article <NML.93Jan24002036@csa.bu.edu>, nml@csa.bu.edu (Newton Loui) writes
>
>I've personally solved this discontinuity, in my own mind, like this:  
>The folks at PQL have realized that it can be detrimental to Al's mental
>stability seeing Sam surrounded by another person's physical aura, so

Or somebody else surrounded by Sam's aura.

--MikE...My aura is my own and nobody can borrow it.

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From: LALEAK01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu (LINDA A. LEAKE / SCC)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: RE: WANTED BG and Buck Rogers
Date: 25 Jan 93 00:53:49 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville
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I would also like to have those episodes too.. All help would be appreciated..


Linda A. Leake 
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