From: ecsd@tfs.com (Eric C. S. Dynamic)
Subject: Franklin for Breakfast - tired of it yet, Steve?
Organization: The Great Beast 666
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:05:36 GMT

I wrote the bulk of this yesterday, stone drunk. I'll let it stand.
I'm violating my own general principles, to disclose someone's private
mail without their permission, but out of a keen sense of viciousness,
I know why I'm doing it. Steve Franklin has never offered himself to me
in any positive terms; he has never given me any positive feedback for
things done well or said well. Yet he appoints himself to the task of
abusing me for my doing things he doesn't like. Since he does not offer
himself up to me as a fellow human being, that I can touch him, I decide
I have no responsibility to this person, and he can meet himself in kind
for the way he treats me. So - if he wishes to depersonalize me, not offer
me any human grace, and yet sit in judgement - then let him see what that
approach gets him.

To you, Franklin, either MEET ME as a human being - or SHUT THE FUCK UP.
I don't need your asshole judgements of me, as your opinion shows no balance
whatever. I can get as much negative feedback as I want anytime I want,
and I don't want it from people who don't have a sense of fair play. I'd've
been open to you otherwise and I still can be - but not until you begin to
offer me some of the respect that I damned well know I deserve. If I claim
I can flame you 10-to-1, then either meet that challenge, or concede I'm
right. My vocabulary is evidently larger than yours, and I have a better
command of the English Language. So Tough Shit For You. We could still be
friends - but for now, I've had enough of your garbage negativity, which
thinks that it defeats things it doesn't acknowledge. The only thing the
Ostrich gains with its head in the sand, is not to see what eats it.

Post more such crap to me, and I'll be glad to post it here to show people
how much petulance you have that you can't admit to the rest of us - oh, spare
them from having reason to judge you. I am the most openly psychically naked
person I have seen in many, many years - you've chosen the wrong person to
fuck with. I have no shame. So here you are in print for exactly what you
did say. You live with other people's judgements - I do. I will. I can handle
it. I'm real, and I'm going to keep working on being more and more forward
in Being real. I don't see that you have much to say - so don't you dare come
on high and mighty to me. It may be arrogant for me to compare myself favorably
to you - and I'm certainly not trying to "win favor" to get invited to dinner,
but I've *earned* what I say about myself and I'm giving myself recognition,
for my bravery, my effort, and my awareness - that you DO NOT seem to possess.
One of those human traits - that the little ones try so hard to depose the big
ones, so they will not feel small. I don't like to damage anyone, but you give
me the opportunity to explore doing exactly that with almost no remorse, so
that I can do learning in respect to qualities of Mercy, versus Telling the
Truth - so thanks for that. What I'm learning here now is teaching me how to
present messages to be widely received with fairly little resistance. When you
want to give it up, I will - so you get what you give - you just remember that.

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; From: Steve Franklin <franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca>
; To: ecsd
; Subject: Re: The Great Beast Eats Tai For Breakfast
; Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
; References: <1992Nov17.032519.14478@ncsu.edu> <1992Nov17.111002.14004@tfs.com>
; Message-Id: <92Nov17.115330ast.66@ug.cs.dal.ca>
; Date: 	Tue, 17 Nov 1992 11:52:21 -0400
; 
; In rec.org.mensa you write:
; [a bunch of drivel]
; You and your capslock key could be the most boring combination I have seen 
; in a long while... Perhaps you should consider NOT hitting the "f" key as
; often as you seem to do... Whenever you get the urge to post, post to 
; misc.test. I can assure you that you will receive numerous replies, and
; none of the will be critical. That _IS_ what you want is it not? Now, my
; dear little jack-ass - please post less, and think more. That is what
; this group is for...

{written a day earlier:}

Okay. At *this* moment, I am drunk on Ouzo - as I was in the prior two posts.
Tonight, I am not so tired as I was last night.

I am exploring aspects of myself here, that most people *never* give themselves
permission to explore in their lifetime. If they do, they call it "youthful
indiscretion", as if it were a "phase" that they would "get over" and "be
dispensed with", as a "mark of maturity". WRONG. I - and they - are acting out,
(1) the Dark side, (2) their unbridled child nature.

I have choices to make here. I can respond well or ill. I take note of the
following: you have not made any attempt to bond positively with me; I have
not seen your posts recently in an*other* context, than to be bashing me.
Your private mail here is disclosed - for I have no guilt to be accused by
you, but you have guilt in accusing - or your post should have been HERE,
to begin with.

I so very much wish to explore my Martial nature in Great Depth, while wishing
to do it in a "nice & playful way" - yet, when I see someone I can objectify
into an adversary, as I can you, my Psyche seizes upon it and says - Go For It.

**==> YOU, cannot match me in what I do for One Reason Only: You cannot bring
out your subconscious mind into consciousness, in the way I have learned to do.
I had to pay a ferocious price for this ability; but it's been worth it.
YOU have no concept around this. WHY would I be so ARROGANT about this, but
to be making a point: (1) I am WHO I say I am; (2) YOU can be what *I* say
you can be: whatever you *want* to be. Well, Mr. Franklin: you shall LOSE;
because you can't, you canNOT get down and do it as *I* do, because you're
still caught in the strictures of what society says - and society is FAILING
you, because it No Longer Understands Human Reality. You are making bids for
peer-approval to people who No Longer Exist. My Culture Exists, and yours is
DYING. My Culture shall replace yours; this is not megalomania, but sheer
recognition of the facts. Historical Evolution of HumanKind - Dood.

Okay - Steve Franklin, Dude. If you'll like to have it out with me - then do
it full out. Meet Mars in his FULLY FLEDGED ARCHETYPE. People here still do
not put two and two and two and two together to make eight about me: so far,
for about a month, I have been in a relatively Dark Phase; yet here I am,
always accessible. I very carefully observe who says what to me, why and how,
in a matter of social learning. So you - go ahead, and be opinionated; or have
a judgement. Truth is - MY behavior is evidenced in PUBLIC for all to judge.
Yours? Sent to me in private. ==> I OWN MYSELF AND YOU DO NOT. <== and that is
Your challenge - my challenge to You from Me. Flame me openly or hide - I care
not. My VICIOUS nature is now NAKEDLY and OPENLY on display for EVERYONE to
see - VICE, VICE, VICE - you THINK about it. I am the ONLY sonofabitch here,
or anywhere yet, so far as I can tell - apart from H.S.Thompson, or
W.S.Burroughs, who does, or CAN, do this - you CANNOT. YOU HAVE NOT A CLUE.
NOT ONE FUCKING CLUE.

==> I CAN OWN YOU BECAUSE I *SAY* I CAN. <==

; Perhaps you should consider NOT hitting the "f" key as
; often as you seem to do...

Hmm. A couple posts here and there? ANY RECOGNITION FOR THE NICE, THOUGHTFUL
POSTS I HAVE MADE? NONE. YOUR BALANCE - CAN FUCK ITSELF. FLAME and BASH me,
for what you DON'T LIKE. No recognition for what I DO WELL? HAH. DEAD MEAT.
O Steve Franklin - you're DEAD MEAT.

; You and your capslock key could be the most boring combination I have seen 
; in a long while...

Sorry, Mr. Franklin. You are no match for me, and the way I feel about it is
that if all you have to do is vent your peevishness at me, waste it elsewhere.

My offer to TAI was and is: learn to do what *I* do, and join the ranks of the
learned and wise. I AM DUMPING MYSELF AT THE PRIMAL ARCHETYPAL LEVEL and this
scares you and most others. It's my talent - and you can't match it. I can be
half out of my mind with alcohol, and still outdo you - this is written by a
person most people would consider "too drunk to deal with on a rational level",
for what they know about the phenomenon. HAH. I will match you Level for Level,
on whatever drugs, and each time I shall SLAY you. TAI at least, showed me his
feelings were hurt; YOU CANNOT.

I apologize to TAI. It is not my primary intention to damage ANYONE. So -
SHOW ME YOUR FEELINGS - OR SUFFER THAT I WILL UNDERSTAND THEM AS I SEE FIT.

; I can assure you that you will receive numerous replies, and
; none of the will be critical. That _IS_ what you want is it not? Now, my
; dear little jack-ass - please post less, and think more. That is what
; this group is for...

I receive NO replies - not from Steiner, not from GMS. I think I have placed
myself beyond the pale - well, so be it. People I'd thought had some sense
of me as a balanced individual - C.J.D'Costa, where is he? NO VALIDATION
for what I am doing. Do you know what? Doing what I am doing; to watch how
I am received; NOBODY validates this behavior; I am not surprised, because
it is not in the LEAST socially acceptable - according to the dictates of a
society I WILL DEPOSE. YES. YES. I will fulfill MY ARCHETYPES. Will YOU?
YOU haven't a CLUE.

-------

YOU ARE ALL RAVING EGOMANIACS.
I HAVE COME TO SET YOU FREE.
I AM YOUR SAVIOUR, THEN
HE, THEY, I, WHO SAY:
EGO, BE IT
EGO, IT MUST BE
BUT EGO BE PURE;
EGO EXISTS WITH OTHER EGOS
BAD, SAD LESSON FOR THE ONE EGO;
BUT GOOD WHEN IT UNDERSTANDS
WHAT GOOD IT IS TO BE WHAT IT IS.
I KNOW
I COME TO LIBERATE YOU - *ALL*
*ALL OF YOU*

For God Bless You, I love you ALL. NOT WITHOUT SIGHT. But I do, nonetheless.
Thanks to Steve Franklin, to give me material to work from.

-ecsd - Who NEVER chooses an apparition such as Great Beast 666, without a
great deal of thought.

MARK MY WORDS.

My curse == My blessing, that I shall understand them both, male and female
archetypes. YOU? You seem to understand NOTHING. YOU LOSE, Mr Franklin.

Do the losing with grace. Or be willing to defend your ideals IN PRINT.
Otherwise you are a CHARLATAN and a PHONY. DO IT, ASSHOLE - OR GET THE FUCK
OFF THE NEWSGROUP. FLAME? FLAME? Yeah, asshole - come and get me -
I'm blacker, darker & deeper than ANYTHING you've EVER encountered. Either
you MEET me on my level - or YOU LOSE. Male - archetypal? Lose? Hah. Go
face it.

{
Youuuu - are the Crown of Creation.
Youuuu - are the Crown of Creation.
And you've got no place to go -- o -- o -- o.
...
Soon, you'll attain the stability you strive for;
In the only way that it's granted
in a place among the fossils of our time.

In loyalty to their kind - they cannot tolerate our minds.
In loyalty to our kind - we cannot tolerate their obstruction.
} - Jefferson Airplane

YOU, Steve, have no where else to Go. Adapt or Die.

{
When the truth is found --- to beeeeeeee lies,
And all the joy within youuuuuuuuuuu dies,

Don't you want somebody to love,
Don't you need somebody to love,
Wouldn't you love somebody to love,
You better find somebody to love.
} - Jefferson Airplane