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From: hdeshma@eos.ncsu.edu (HARSHAVARDHAN  DESHMANE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: I will close you by my ices --[ The Tiger Cascade ]
Date: 28 Aug 92 02:42:46 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos

In article <1992Aug28.003847.9888@menudo.uh.edu> aruna@tree.egr.uh.edu (Venkatachalam Aruna) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.235943.108562@ua1ix.ua.edu> ngopalas@ho19.eng.ua.edu  
>(Nath S. Gopalaswamy) writes:
>> In article <1992Aug27.204251.9914@colorado.edu>,  
>paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:
>> |> In article <16850E475.R2GAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> R2GAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU  
>writes:
>> |> >In article <1992Aug26.225243.194559@ua1ix.ua.edu>
>> |> >ngopalas@ho19.eng.ua.edu (Nath S. Gopalaswamy) writes:
>> |> > 
>> |> >>
>> |> >>In article <1992Aug26.222717.7747@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>  
>mramesh@nyx.cs.du.edu (M Ramesh) writes:
>> |> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>I will close you by my ices.
>> |> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will lose you by my dices.
>> |> >>>>>>>>>>>>  I will kill you with my spices.
>> |> >>>>>>>>>>    Hi willki, you with mices ?
>> |> >>>>>>>>>>    No Vepal, that would be crises.
>> |> >>>>>>>>      No pal, begone, that suffices.
>> |> >>>>>>>       I car US life's main spices?
>> |> >>>>>>        I caress her vain crevices.
>> |> >>>>>         I could do without artificial devices.
>> |> >>>>          I kudo you with art on what premises ?
>> |> >>>           Could you be SCating on thin Ices?
>> |> >>            Methinks Icarus will pay terrible prices.
>> |> >             Kill, and send me chemm slices.
>> |>               Drink deep then, of my intestinal interstices.
>>                  Look how the vain Icarus, into two, splices.
>                   Book the train to throw his ashes, all the places.
                    This thread could do with some sacrifices.

-- 
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Harshavardhan Deshmane                                 I had a signature
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,alt.culture.kerala
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Introduction to Kathakali  -- Icarus.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 07:21:43 GMT


In article <1992Aug31.220917.14324@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus) writes:

a few comments on an excellent article...

>The Pacca.
>----------

A more correct spelling would be "pacha - green" which is the facial color
of this character.

>The Katti.
>----------

"kathi"

>The Tati.
>--------

"Tadi" ?

There are a few more like "minukku" which is usually for Brahmin.. and
"Sthree-Vesham" for women.

But the best part of Kathakali is the music ( at least to me ). It is based
on Karnatic music and uses the more melodious ragas like Yadukulakambhoji,
Neelambari, Kambhogi, Madhyamavathi, Kuringi etc... The padams they sing
are classic example of malayalam poetry of 17-18th century (?) and were
written by well known poets of the time like Unnayi-Varyar, Kottayathu
Thampuran, Irayumman Thampi etc. Kottayam Thampuran is credited with
bringing Kathakali to its present form. He was an expert on Kathakali
and his stories often reflect this fact.. they are considered more
"complete" among "atta-katha"s by experts... On the other hand, 
Nalacharitham by Unnayi Varyar is considered to be more poetic... it was
only during this century it became popular as an "aatta-kadha" (I might be
wrong here, but that's what I was told...). Nalacharitham is well known
for popular padams like "Samya-makannoru-udyanam" , "Harinakshi", "Yami-
Yami" etc.

Now about koodiyattam.. I don't  know too much about this as I haven't seen
one myself.. but I have seen Chakyar in action in "koothu". They are incredibly
funny in that they have terrific sense of humor... They often embarrass
the people who come to watch the show making it funny for everyone else. In
olden days, they could even insult the king. In fact, there is a story
about KunjanNambyar who started the dance known as "Ottanthullal". He was
supposed to be the drummer (mizhavu) for a chakyar.. and he fell asleep
during Koothu. The chakyar insulted him badly which he didn't enjoy much.
Therefore in order to get back at chakyar, he wrote a "thullal-pattu"
and performed it himself opposite to chakyar which became more of an attraction
than the koothu.

Whenever I think of Kunjan Nambiar, I remember these lines which he told
the King of Travancore... I enjoy the simplicity and the inherent humor
in it. (forgive the mistakes, if any)

Nambi Arennu Chodichu,
Nambi-yarennu chollinan,
Nambi-kettatha kopichu,
Thampurane porukkane.

:) :)

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>.    o o      signito ergo sum.              paul chemmanoor.                .
>.     |    i sign therefore i am.            Computer Science department.    .
>.     =                                      Univ. of Colorado, Boulder.     .
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Njan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: crick@tsp.med.umn.edu (Ed Crick (CD))
Subject: Re: India successfully launches missile
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 02:04:37 GMT

In article <17bpheINNakl@overload.lbl.gov> prem@prem.lbl.gov (Shirdi R. Prem) writes:
>>>
>>Intelligence in India?  Well, there certainly aren't any examples of that
>>on this net.                                  *******************
>
>	Including yourself, Ed ???? (or whoever is posting from Ed's account).
>
I'm neither in nor from India, therefore I am not included in the group of
empty vessels to which I refer.

>	A successful missile launch is one that lands where it is 
>	intended to land. 
>	
>

I've deleted an egregious waste of space in which the previous author recites
some trivia with which he wishes to impress upon us his belief in his 
intelligence.

>	informative. ......though I think it was not information
>	you were seeking when you posted your original article.
>	Prem!


After you took the time to write all that garbage you then have the after-
thought that it wasn't the information that I wanted.  You just admitted to
wasting your own time, although I doubt you realize it.  Such a realization
would require an rational being, not just some trained circus animal hacking
away on a keyboard.  Another character with the prescience of a barefoot man
in a rattlesnake nest.

Ed

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ans4@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Anita N Srivastava)
Subject: Cows, Bulls and Ram Lak^Hans in IAS. ( Without comment)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 04:57:44 GMT



	This is a very good example of the effect of Mulayam singh Yadav
syndrome in India. I present this without comment.
*************************************************************************
                          THIS IS THE COW
        
 	The quality of public servants in India is legendary. The following   
unedited essay on the cow written by a successful candidate for the UPSE 
examinations is evidence of the great future of the English language in
India, says The Telegraph.
____________________________________________________________________________
	" The cow is a successful animal. Also he is quadruped and because 
he is a female, he hive milk, but will do so when he is got child. He is 
same like God, sacred to Hindus and useful to man. But he has got four legs
together. Two are forward and two afterwards.
	His whole body can be utilised for use. More so the milk What can it 
do? Various ghee, butter, cream, curd, why and the condensed milk and so farth.
Also he is useful to cobler, watermans and mankinds generally.
	His motion is slow only because he is of aslitudinious species. Also
his other motion is much useful to trees, plants as well as making flat cakes  
in hand drying in sun.
	Cow is the only animal that extracts his feeding after eating. Then,
afterward she chew with his teeth whom are situated in the inside of the mouth.
He is incessantly in the meadows on the grass.
	His only attacking and defending organs the horn, specially so when he
is got child. This is done by knowing his head whereby he causes the weapons to
be paralleled to the ground of the earth and instantly proceed with great
velocity forwards.
	He has got tail also, but not like similar animals. It has hairs on
the other end of the other side. This is done to frighten away the flies which
alight on his cohoa body whereupon he gives hit with it.
	The palms of his feet are soft unto the touch. So the grasses heads
would not get crushed. At night time have poses by giving down on the ground
and he shouts his eyes like his relatives, the horse does not do so.
	This is the Cow.
*******************************************************************************
   (Deccan Herald August 16, '92 )       

I don't think any comments are necessary. If the prevailing mood of "hindification" continues at the expense of the majority of Indians and the graceful English
language, the future essays will doubtlessly be more interesting:-)

I rest my case.

Bijoy

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: shalan@engr.latech.edu (Shivram Halan)
Subject: Re: Info on Lousiana Tech@ Ruston*************
Reply-To: shalan@engr.latech.edu
Organization: Louisiana Tech University
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:11:21 GMT


**********************************
From ganesh@icaen.uiowa.edu (Ganesh Tirupattur Ramaseshadri)
Subject: Info on Lousiana Tech@ Ruston**************
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 01:35:01 GMT

Hi. Can anybody from Lousiana Tech @ Ruston give me some info about the on campus 
job scene. 

**********************************

	Job scene at latech.
JOB??????
SCENE??????
ON CAMPUS???????

no way jose.

applications for cafeteria jobs accepted on august 28 1992.

	sorry to dissapoint you, but if you need a job you better have a SS# and be here before september first. As for appartments there is a greyhound station, and an old and dilapitated and closed railroad. (actually watering station).

there are a couple of mobile homes and the dorms are getting filled up.

shiv.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From:  Yatin Chatterji
Subject: Re: INDIANS AND SEX
Organization: Holier than thou, Inc.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 00:47:17 GMT

>subbu@cis.ohio-state.edu (rajesh subbu) writes:
>: 
>: Indians and SEX.
>: 
>: "They have sex in their brains, not where it should be" (pooja bedis words)
>:

  Who is Pooja Bedi?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Subject: Re: Cow convention
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:32:25 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.193118.10669@news.Hawaii.Edu> vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:
>at the preliminary cow meeting for constant ogling at the cows .. err.females.
			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I guess you know what you do best...

>Cowtcha Gangster.

Njan
From: kaushik@dvorak.amd.com (Kaushik Chhotani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: H1 visa from Matamoros, Mexico.
Date: 25 Aug 92 21:50:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas

My friend Romesh Jessani had recently been to Matamoros, Mexico to get his
H-1 visa. Recounted below are his experiences which might help others who
wish to go to Mexico for their H1's.


From: Romesh Jessani
	romesh@daffy.sps.mot.com
SUBJECT :- H1 at MATAMOROS, Mexico

-------------------------------------------------------------


Hi,

This piece is for those who plan to obtain their
H1 multiple entry visas from Matamoros, Mexico.

I was down at the US consulate in Matamoros, Mexico
in the last week of July and unfortunately I had to come
back without a visa because of a new rule the consulate
has started following sometime in July. 

This particular consulate has too many applicants applying
for some form of entry visa into the US and to account
for the people from their consulate areas, they do not
interview people from other areas before applicants from
their area (i.e. Matamoros and surroundings) are accounted 
for first. In short, it means that they interview people from
Matamoros and around first, then others from Mexico, and then
from the rest of the world.

For H1 visa applicants (since H1 visa applicants are typically
more from the rest of the world category) they advise that
we write for an interview date, and they would schedule it
according to the rush they forsee. Typically, it would be
about 3 months. I was given an appointment for 3 months from
that day.

For those who plan to go to Matamoros without an appointment
I would strongly advise not to do so, because your chances
of being interviewed are very slim. On the day I was there I saw 
200+ people who were backlogged from Friday(I was there on 
Monday) and were given slips of paper to allow them first
chance on Monday. I saw an even greater number of people who
were not from Friday.

Hope all this helps

Romesh Jessani

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From: gupta@lspd.jsc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: looking for
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:24:27 GMT
Organization: nasa-jsc


	I am looking for one Ms. Priya Duggal who has or will be graduating from the Loyola University at Chicago.  This is urgent and if somebody knows her whereabouts, please send me a mail at the above address.

							       Nitesh
								
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: Sati is for our good!!
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:00:21 GMT

In article <59991@mimsy.umd.edu> dheeraj@cs.umd.edu (Dheeraj Sanghi) writes:
>In article <Btuyrr.F3v@wpi.WPI.EDU> sdoki@maxine.wpi.edu (Suresh Doki) writes:
>>i am one of those who believe that our elders are not dumb and when
>>they decide something it is for our own good. the same holds for sati
>>also IMHO.
>
>Next time you are sick, may be the goddess is angry. Pray. Or may be
>evil spirits have entered your body.

I have contemplated a lot on this issue and i have finally received 
my enlightment. The conclusion is that Mr. Doki is right. Sati is 
good for us. As you can see, population of India is increasing 
tremendously. Who's responsible ?! The men ?! Its these damned 
females. Burn 'em all I say -- widow or no widow. 


For the humour impaired --> ;-)
regards,
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From: srik@cs.arizona.edu (Srikanth Raghavan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: just wondering ......
Date: 4 Sep 92 04:49:46 GMT

suppose u wake up one day and login to find NO SCI, what would u do?
would ur life come to a standstill?
so funny just thinking about it sends shivers down my spine.

Praise be to Allah!
-srikanth
From: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Cheap one way ticket...
Date: 31 Aug 92 16:28:16 GMT
Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)

I have a cheap one way ticket for sale.  Only 50 bucks.
Flight is from San Jose to Austin on the 21st of Oct. Direct flight.
Date can be changed for 25 bucks.

**********************************************************************
               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum
 Disclaimer: These are my opinions and my opinions only. Has nothing
                      to do with where I work.
            Littera scripta manet: Credo quia absurdum
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan
From: pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli)
Subject: Re: Indian Recipes...Wanted...(long)
Reply-To: pkohli@cc.gatech.edu (Prince Kohli)
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:44:42 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.025315.28430@tamsun.tamu.edu>, gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:
|> >
|> >Matar Panear (Pea Cheese)
|> >
|> >Where do you get Paneer or by what name is it 
|> >sold as ?
|> >
|> 
|> Sorry. The question was not clear. Paneer is indicated as 'cheese'
|> but there are so many different types of cheese. Which kind of 
|> cheese is most like Paneer ? 

It's cottage cheese, available in most grocery stores. It is exactly
what we mean by paneer in India.

|> E-mail - gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu       |   /   All Std. Disclaimers apply.

Cheers (say "cheeeese...." :),

-Prince
-- 
pkohli@cc.gatech.edu      | "What's so unpleasant about getting drunk?" 
Distributed Systems Group,| "Ask a glass of water."   Hitchhikers'....
College of Computing, Georgia Tech.
From: karnik@milli.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: DESI JOKES (Adults) #7
Keywords: a,c,b
Date: 30 Aug 92 22:02:15 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <Aug.26.04.01.04.1992.26661@thebe.rutgers.edu> ratan@thebe.rutgers.edu (Santosh Ratan) writes:

>    What about other obsene topics

>                HORNY INDIAN BABIES

	Good lord! No wonder we're getting close to a billion.... :->

--
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Neeran  Karnik  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dept. of Computer Science,      | Email: karnik@cs.umn.edu
University of Minnesota         | Tele : 612-339-5350 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Subject: Re: Sam Pitroda vs M.K.Gandhi
Reply-To: uds@wsu-eng.eng.wayne.edu (Seetamraju Udaybhaskar)
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 08:49:36 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.143105.8263@csc.ti.com> krishnan@ra.csc.ti.com (Srinivasan Krishnan) writes:
>
>I recently read a review of Sam Pitroda's biography.  The
>author of his biography has compared Sam Pitroda's return 
>to India in 1985 to M.K.Gandhi's return to India in 1915 
>from South Africa.  It seems he had similar goals and zeal
>that M.K.Gandhi had when he returned.
>
>Krishnan



I recently tried to buy a first class ticket for a train journey
(last month).  `they' refused to travel first class.  And I am
going back to india soon.  Someone willing to biography my life
from now one, given that I am going to be the `true' successor of the line
of great men, among whom the shining star, is Sam Pitts.


Seetamraju Udaya Bhaskar Sarma
(email : seetam @ ece7 . eng . wayne . edu)

oh! BTW, I didnt have enough money to buy the 1st class tkt.
	Does that disqualify me?  I dont think so, because
	I was `thrown out' in another incident.
From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: ***** KHALISTANI JOKE *****
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:42:18 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong

>BTW you can replace sardar by sindhi bihari bhaiya madrasi etc ... and have
>fun. Please no more khalistani jokes. It hurts some people.

>Vijay


No Way any other (bihari, sindhi etc...) can replace sardar
 for this joke because they are asking Khalistan.

Actually this joke is mixtre of two languages .

Hindostani and Punjabi.

In Punjabi Khalistan means Pure Land while in Hindostani Khalistan means
Void Land.



Enjoy Joke

Don't Be Nerrow minded.





















Bye
Adil 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vivek@ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu)
Subject: Re: Buddhism a part of Hinduism ?
Organization: California State University, Chico
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 23:41:36 GMT

In article <oecFc0K00awDA6Jmcg@andrew.cmu.edu> rs6x+@andrew.cmu.edu (Ranjith Ravindiran Suresh) writes:
>NO.
>
>Only for BJP fanatics. Of course the Hinduism practiced by Tamils from 
>Eelam and Hindus from south India does have many strands of Budhism
>woven into the fabric that is Hindiusm.
>
>Suresh

That is not necessarily true. What difference we see today is the different
methods of practices of Hinayana, and Mahayana Buddhism.

Regards,
Vivek.

-- 
vivek@cscihp.ecst.csuchico.edu (Vivek R. Prabhu),
Research Assistant, Department Of Computer Science, 
School Of Engineering, Computer Science And Technology,
California State University, Chico, California.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: tbutalia@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Tarunjit Singh Butalia)
Subject: Re: Buddhism a part of Hinduism ?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 19:00:49 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.235216.17062@midway.uchicago.edu> trivedi@yukawa.uchicago.edu (Anil Trivedi) writes:
>In article <1537@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> av2@ukc.ac.uk (A.Varshneya) writes:
>
> > I have heard that Buddha is considered the ninth(?) avatar in
> > Hinduism. Does this mean that Buddhism is actually a part of
> > Hinduism ?
>
>Yes, Hindus do regard Buddha as an incarnation of God. This is an
>interesting illustration of their history of religious tolerance.

Some Hindus regard the Sikh Gurus too to be Avtars of Hinduism. However,
Sikh religion does not say so. 

>
>But, no, you should not consider Buddhism to be a part of Hinduism.
>
>Historically, Buddhism could once have been considere an ascetic
>reformist branch of Hinduism, just as Sikhism once used to be a
>"militant" arm of Hinduism.

Sikhism was never a "militant" arm of Hinduism. Guru Gobind Singh fought most
of his battles against the Hindu Hill Rajas. It was on representation of the
Hindu Hill Rajas to the Mughals and the Nawab of Malerkotla that Sikhs fought
against the Moghuls. Sikhs have always fought agianst oppresion irrespective 
of whether the oppressors were Hindu or Moslems. Also, Guru Arjan Dev himself 
proclaimed that " I am neither a Hindu nor a Muslim."

History has been written in such a way that it potrays Sikhism as a "militant"
arm of Hinduism. Scriptural evidence from the Guru Granth Sahib and writings
of the Tenth Guru does not suggest any such view. 

>
>However, Buddhism has existed as an independent faith long enough,
>far longer in fact than Sikhism which too has come to be viewed
>as an independent faith today.

Sikh Gurus identified themselves as seperate from Hinduism and Islam. 

>
>Of course, Hindus or anyone else for that matter not prevented from
>worshipping Buddha in any manner they see fit. People may worship
>Buddha and learn from His teachings without joining "Buddhism",
>just as they may worship Krishna without joining the Hare-Krishnas
>(it's a weak analogy, but it makes the point).

-- 
Tarunjit Singh Butalia                  (tbutalia@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)
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