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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: religious talks
From: rbhatnag@uceng.UC.EDU (raj bhatnagar)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:11:19 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Cincinnati

In article <1992Aug13.223455.20960@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.204323.23129@uceng.UC.EDU>, rbhatnag@uceng.UC.EDU (raj bhatnagar) writes:

>>What is NEW about the faith that youi are trying to tell the net?
>>Is it a new "protocol" for establishing a connection between 
>>an individual and the Supreme Consciousness at some previously
>>unachievable baud-rate?
>>---raj

>What is new is how all the religions are the SAME. 

Is the idea "all the religions are the same" new in this world?
I don't think so. "Ekan sat viprah bahudha vadanti" has been known
for quite a long time. (Trans: Truth is one, different learned people
speak it differently)

>What made you think that
>they are all DIFFERENT all this time as you have amply demonstrated by
>your insisting that Christianity/Islan is different from Hinduism.

There certainly must be some difference, otherwise why others would 
be referred to as
- Kafirs,
- Non-Bahais, or
- pagans, etc.

They are different because each asks me a different messenger to
trust and believe. And for one more time - Hinduism is NOT a religion
in the sense of a unique protocol for linking the individual's ego
with the Supreme Consciousness. Hinduism is a civilizational term.

>Any way you follow RAJ's religion. 

I will. Thanks.

>I am talking to only those who follow
>Hinduism/Christianity/Islam.

But I am also interested in knowing WHAT I should do differently
if I want to called a Bahai. Please explain it in C L E A R phrases.
Should I chant something, meditate, read some scripture n times a day
etc. 

You have expounded the virtues of Bahai faith for months now, but I am
interested in knowing HOW this faith is practiced and HOW it achieves
the noble ideals that you claim to achieve.


>What;s new is we are trying to do something to make the EARTH a better
>place, 


Sure, count me in. I want the earth to be a better place too. Can you
also devote some time on telling us how an *individual* may achieve that,
according to your solution?

>instead of caring only for our PERSONAL SALVATION.


Me and personal salvation?
Noooooo, I don't want it.

Somehow, the following para from a Hindi poem, (By Mahadevi Verma I guess) is 
solidly stuck in my mind :

Kya Amaron ka lok milega
  Teri Karuna ka Upahaar?
Rahne do he dev are yeh
  Mera Mitne ka adhikaar.

(Translation : Is immortality the prize of your benevolence on me?
               Oh God, please let me retain my privilege of dying
               and being reborn again and again)

>Arindam
>

---raj


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko)
Subject: Re: Curious observation.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 22:46:48 GMT

In article <9208202240.AA04461@ha06.eng.ua.edu> bkannan@ha06.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan) writes:

>  There is more to life than covering up :-)

Perhaps Mr. Kannan would care to elucidate?

>  After all it was "a half naked fakir"  who had the world sit up and
>  take notice .. :-)

Was it because he was half naked?

George

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: Curious observation,: Pibroch
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 00:25:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.173039.7596@newshub.sdsu.edu> sarang@saturn.sdsu.edu (Srinath Sarang) writes:
[...]

>   Again, I was not inflicting the family story on the general public.
>I was merely quoting an old saying. By the way there are a few people on the
>net who find these family stories posted quite intresting. Foe example the
>stories posted by Paul chemanoor are good and a lot of people like them.
>For those who don't the news reader program has the very familiar N key or
>the kill files. I quite couldn't understand why Paul chemanoor used to
>respond to your posts but Now I do....

1] Thanks for telling the tormented how they can avoid my postings.
   Just for the record, my surname is spelt Chemmanoor, in case
   you find it essential to explain my actions and motives to an
   ever eager net public.

2] Stay Cool.

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From: sngattan@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Sanjay N Gattani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Meat eating....etc!
Date: 12 Aug 1992 11:16:46 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

prasanth@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ravi K. Prasanth) writes:
>> I think there is a slight difference between plants and animals(orthe 
>> livin beings).  Plants can recover parts that have been cut off but if
>> an animal loses one of its limbs, (I believe) it has to stay that way.

>Ever tried cutting off a lizard's tail. You will be surprised.

In fact there are many ore examples.....starfish...Then you have centipedes
(maybe, I don't have the name right!)  etc...But that exactly is the point.
No one feels bad if a lizard's tail is cut off.  I think there is a 
connection between our feelings and the regeneration capability of the
animal. Perhaps if the animals were like plants, vegetarians wouldn't come
out against killing life.

>> sanjay

>RKP

sanjay
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu
From: Veeramany.Sthanumurthy@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Veeramany Sthanumurthy)
Subject: Re: The Gundekota File: Future of Indian Olympians
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:50:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.185703.15595@Firewall.Nielsen.Com> mgundeko@pcserver2.Naitc.Com (Murthy Gundekota) writes:
>
>Gundekota File-Entry#2: Future of Indian Olympians
>==================================================
>
>#4 Don't give them Jobs
>=======================
>
>Olympians don't deserve jobs, automatically, whether they won a medal
>or not. No body got a free lunch in school. I was a state ranker but
>IIT's didn't spread a red carpet for me. When I topped in AGRE, MIT
>didn't lick my palm. I had to sweat through my brain cells. Let the
...
>geneto-urinary canal brings all the copious liquid frustrations
>pouring forth from the filthy filibustering dick heads.
...
>Murthy

The mask is ... what mask?
Perception is reality.

Sthan.
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   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:28959 soc.culture.tamil:1388
From: rk@hls.com (S Ramakrishnan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: dd
Date: 14 Aug 92 05:33:53 GMT

From: rk@nms.hls.com (S Ramakrishnan)
Subject: Re: We can all talk!!!!!!
Reply-To: rk@nms.hls.com (S Ramakrishnan)
Organization: Hughes LAN Systems Inc., Mountain View, Ca
 
In article <1992Aug12.224200.16739@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU (Arindam Ghosh) writes:

  >I will be a passive spectator now, as I cannot speak [ ... ]

Promises, promises ! :-(.

---
S Ramakrishnan, HLS Inc., Mountain View, Ca
From: vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: another dream team
Date: 15 Aug 92 00:20:24 GMT
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering

Rak writes:
  Murthy writes:
    Rak writes:

>>Get a life...
>>Rakesh Patel
>
>With you in it? Tough chance. By the way, the fact that I am replying to
>your messages, is not because I am defending something. Hardly ever. 
>However, it is really fascinating to see someone as moronic as you are,
>with the minimal set of skills for expression, to be existing anywhere,
>let alone in a communication busines. It sure must feel lonely where
>you are now.
>
>:-)
>
>Murthy

Ravings of a FOB lunatic...God save us!!!

Rakesh Patel

       Hee hee hee :) :) Hudson, the new dream team of SCI is in action :
 Gastro-rectologist (copyright Balaji :) Gundekota vs IIT-killer Patel :)

Hey, Prabhu, reel in Raveena Tandon saru. Time for some more action :)
Arindam, take a break in the Bahamas. :) Raghavan buster has predicted you 
topping this fortnight, beating Commie Deb :)
 
Gotcha Gangster
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From: venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (my father is a GUN !!!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Curious observation.
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:20:23 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug20.170122.23707@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug20.163722.23378@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar) writes:
>
>>A pibroch is a musical theme for the bagpipes, Mr. Mozart.
>>I would be very curious to know how one would wear this, especially
>>under a kilt :-)
>
>I suggest you read Wodehouse on the subject. Sorry that the allusion
>passed you by. ;-)
>
>George

   Dont exactly recall reading a Wodehouse ,that mentions this word.
   But am positive that Ian Anderson JETHRO TULL has this in one of
   his albums and sure as hell it is bagpipes.
   gopa
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: spsingh@DEC-1.CE.BERKELEY.EDU (Satinder Pal Singh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: For SPA Architecture students
Date: 18 Aug 92 22:49:36 GMT


School of Planning and Architecture, N. Delhi is celebrating its
Golden Jubilee in 1992.  Starting October 30 for 3 days besides various
social and cultural programs, it plans to have the following functions:

1. Exhibition of Alumni's achievements
2. Seminars
3. Comprehensive Alumni's Directory
4. Raising corpse fund for student's welfare programs e.g. travel/
   research grants.

SPA invites its Alumnis to participate in its Golden Jubilee celebrations.
For further information about programs, please contact Prof. V.P. Raori
or Prof. Ram Sharma at School's address.

SPA Alumni School of Planning and Architecture, 6, Block-B
Indraprastha Estate,  New Delhi  110002
Phone: 331-8387, 331-1074

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: jasjit@cc.gatech.edu (Jasjit Singh)
Subject: Re: Doubt..
Keywords: Laser, X-Ray, CD
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:31:24 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.090117.29213@colorado.edu> manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Njan) writes:
>In article <qkznb3rc@csv.warwick.ac.uk> espdm@warwick.ac.uk (RANGANATHA RAO GURURAJ) writes:
>>Hi!
>>
>>I would like to know if compact discs will be OK if
>>they are scanned thro the customs Xray (?) scanner
>>at the Indian airport.
>
>Of course.. The Indian customs use "lathi" to probe inside the suitcase
>which might damage the CDs...
>
>>Gururaj
>
>Njan


That is a good point....

But, seriously, since CDs are just ROMs, I do not think X-rays should
damage them.

-Jasjit
jasjit@cc.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal)
Subject: Re: Soc.culture.Indian or Islam or Hinduism??
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 08:05:26 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.223011.20479@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>>
>Isn't that what the advocate of any idea has done all the time.
>Didn't Marx shout at the top of his voice "COMMUNISM is BEST"
>Isn't it the LAW#1 for SECULAR FANATICS also
>Arindam
>

Communism is an economic philosophy. Just because communists also 
happened to advocate secularism does not make secularism their 
exclusive monopoly. SECULARISM AND COMMUNISM ARE TWO DIFFERENT 
THINGS. To make communism work, they had to put the society above 
the individual and to do that they decided that religion must be 
abolished to abolish the individual identity. So communists may be
secular but ALL SECULARISTS ARE NOT COMMUNISTS (shouting at the top
of my voice here). I am a secularist but advocate a more capitalist 
economy. I hope you can see the difference. 

regards,
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   / __   /   /  /   /  /   /  /   | (o)(o)   REAL & IMAGINARY PARTS  
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From: bala@ulysses.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Court Orders Compensation For 100,000 More Bhopal Victims
Keywords: Bhopal
Date: 21 Aug 92 02:43:41 GMT

apnews reports:
	   NEW DELHI, India (AP) - The Supreme Court has ordered the
federal government to pay compensation to 100,000 people not
included in a settlement for the 1984 Bhopal gas disaster.
	   The court's directive, issued Wednesday, was in response to a
petition by a group representing some of the alleged victims of the
world's worst industrial disaster.
	   More than 4,000 people were killed when poisonous gas leaked
from a pesticide factory run by Union Carbide India Ltd., the
Indian subsidiary of the Union Carbide Corp.
	   The government had said that only 500,000 people were affected
by the disaster and is paying them compensation from the $470
million settlement with Union Carbide.
	   But the petitioners said the government has discriminated
against 100,000 other people who were unable to file claim papers
before a deadline set by the government.
	   The three-judge bench ordered the government to pay the 100,000
victims the amount of temporary relief that other claimaints are
receiving until their individual claims are decided: $7 a month.
	   The government sued Union Carbide for $3 billion in damages, but
after years of legal wrangling agreed in 1989 to accept $470
million and absolve the company of criminal liability.
	   However, the Supreme Court last year ordered criminal cases
reopened.
	   In March a Bhopal court ordered the arrest of Warren Anderson,
who was Union Carbide's chairman at the time of the accident. It
charged Anderson with homicide and ordered him to appear in court.
He has refused to do so.
	   The court has ordered the seizure of Carbide's stocks and assets
in India. The multinational owns 50.9 percent of the shares in its
Indian subsidiary.
	
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sguha@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Saumyen Guha)
Subject: Re: STOP THAT BUGGER.  RIGHT NOW...
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:54:16 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.214156.214@tamsun.tamu.edu> gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu (Gopal Agrawal) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.190721.18741@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:

(Gopal's philosophy about 'free lunch' deleated)

>
>I agree with Mr. Seetamaraju. You ARE a pakoda of some sort with fillings 
>of romantic philosophies and skewed sense of priorities. You believe
>yourself to be some sort of saviour of the world, don't you?  Buddy,
>I got news for you. I have seen such people like you in India and they
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>all end up being frustrated when they find they philosophies aren't 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>making a dent on the society.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 
  You don't keep sufficient information . I can not agree with you
fully. Often, they are successful at the small scale(village) and not in 
large(country) scale as they want to be. There are quite a few
encouraging examples. One comes to mind immediately is 'Eklabya'
in MP. Also of note is 'Chipko movement' by Sundar lal Bahuguna
and Chandiprasadji. There are plenty of others in the small scale.


(Stuff deleated)

>
>regards,
>--   
>   ______ ______ ______ ______ __  |\/\/\/|
>    ____/  __  /  __  /  __  /  /  |  \  /|   LIFE'S COMPLEX - IT HAS 
>   / __   /   /  /   /  /   /  /   | (o)(o)   REAL & IMAGINARY PARTS  
>  /   /  /   /   ___/  __  /  /    C      _) 
>_____/ _____/ __/   __/ __/ ______/ | \___|  
>E-mail - gagrawal@cs.tamu.edu       |   /   All Std. Disclaimers apply.
>
later,
-Saumyen




Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: nsridhar@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Natarajan Sridhar)
Subject: Re: Curious observation.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:31:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.201032.26227@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> gchacko@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (George W Chacko) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.192023.12680@athena.cs.uga.edu> venugop@athena.cs.uga.edu (my father is a GUN !!!) writes:
>
>>   Dont exactly recall reading a Wodehouse ,that mentions this word.
>>   But am positive that Ian Anderson JETHRO TULL has this in one of
>>   his albums and sure as hell it is bagpipes.
>
>Songs From The Woods. Martin Barre does an excellent bagpipe effect
>but read, "Leave It To Psmith" anyway. The significance might be
>apparent then.

There's actually a song in that album called Pibroch(cap in hand). 
Quite excellent. For celtic music lovers, I would recommend James
Galloway's efforts in that direction ...

But I digress. I think for once George knows what he's talking about :)
Apparently there's some allusion to a pibroch being worn under the kilt
in "Leave It To Psmith". 

Begorrah !!

>
>George
>
>
**sridhar**
From: sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: KHALISTAN
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:08:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: roundup.l95721INNa5j
Distribution: usa
Organization: Center for Reliable and High-Performance Computing, University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
NNTP-Posting-Host: altair.crhc.uiuc.edu

In article <1992Aug19.024952.22462@seas.smu.edu>, sarwal@seas.smu.edu (Piyush Sarwal) writes:
|> Watching the republican Convention I noticed many sikhs carrying the 
|> Khalistan banner (both Monday and Tuesday) so I have a question for
|> anyone who is familiar with Republican platform. Does the Republican
|> party have any stand on khalistan and also what are President Bush's
|> views. 

I believe that the Bush State Department is generally against the idea
of Khalistan and for the Kashmir problem being resolved between India
and Pakistan through bilateral negotiations under the terms of the
Simla accord.

I heard parts of the GOP platform-committee deliberations on foreign
policy (they read the whole thing out, word by word) and cannot recall
any mention of Khalistan or India or Kashmir.

I suspect that the banners from those folks ("Turban cowboys support
Republicans")  are a result of some conservative GOP Congress-creatures 
(Wally Herger, Dana Rohrabacher, Bill Dannemeyer of Ca.; and Dan Burton 
of Indiana) who have espoused their cause in Congress over the years.


A bit like some Irish-Americans who support the IRA. They've got no problem
supporting terrorism so long as THEY aren't in the crossfire. If a few
innocents die in the process, well, who cares anyway?

|> Piyush

-- 
Srinivas Sunder                                         sunder@crhc.uiuc.edu

If my employer shares these views, I'd be most surprised.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Icarus)
Subject: Re: Quitting Gradschool
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:09:58 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.041456.22561@menudo.uh.edu> mece1e3@Jane.UH.EDU writes:
>Good bye friends.
>Sorry to give you many growing pains in my spiritual quest.
>The time has come when this pretense of Grad school is meaningless

1] Yes, this meaningless time -- 2:00 am trying to finish a project
   -- often comes to many of us, but the feeling dissapears at
   10:00 in the morning, after the first cuppa and calvin and hobbes.
   Desist, refrain, hang on, nirvana is in the mail, waiting for you.

>Hence I am quitting and you will not hear from me again till I
>know the truth

2] Which is till tommorow morning, I hope. :-)

>Good riddance for many I suppose 
>

3] Mock not your friends in this sad hour, Arindam !

lo:
   
   the waters have been stirred,
   by an angels wings,
   tommorow, I will wash my hands,
   and look for heaven in a little drop.
   but for today give me,
   my worldly things.
   
   
>Jenaham Namritashyam tenaham kim kuryam
>

4] But: 
 
   Om Mani Padme Hum.
   The Jewel is in the Lotus.

   If you must go, arindam, please tell me what this means,
   before you leave.

>Bye and love
>Arindam
From: tarokh@server.uwindsor.ca (TAROKH VAHID             )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: test
Keywords: test
Date: 23 Aug 1992 01:43:01 GMT

Test.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: asingh@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Avninider Singh)
Subject: Re: Request to Arindam.
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:07:51 GMT
From: siva@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Siva Brabaakaran)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.karnataka,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: test
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:25:48 GMT
Organization: Customised Software Solutions Centres, AOTC

nagabhus@aludra.usc.edu (Vasuki N) writes:

>In article <l8ldpdINNfdr@aludra.usc.edu> vnesiah@aludra.usc.edu (Deep Third Man) writes:
>>Hey!
>>What have we here?
>>Another splinter group of SCI?
>>That was the arguement against alt/soc.culture.thamil,
>>right??
>>Vasuki ("Lankan Tamils call Indian Tamils Pichaikari") Nagabushan where are 
>>you when we need you?

>>- Vaseeharan

>	Our objection to These splinter groups was based on the understanding
>that the "Tamil news group" would be troubled by the postings of
>srilankan terrorists. And if you look at the postings in tamil group, you

>Atleast let us not have disharmony here among Indians. If anything,
>our discussions should be constructive and focuss on what we can do
>for land of our birth and land of our residence. At the same time,
>we should keep out terrorist elements from spoiling the network.

>	Hope that explains our viewpoint ?

It is like not buying or reading a newspaper because it will give some
true stories which you dont like to read. Ha! Ha! Hah!

I hope your hope of harmony will continue in the network. Let us start a
newsgroup called alt.culture.tamil.terrorist and alt.culture.tamil.slaves

Praba

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