HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cat@piggy.fgs.slb.COM ("Rather B. Fishing")
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: East vs. West driving times
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:30:17 GMT
Organization: The Internet



> Some people have driven from Skraeling Althing to Estrella War. 
> Skraeling Althing os Ottawa, Canada, the northeast corner of the Middle
> Kingdom.

Surely I mean no offense, but I do wish to point out that not all
people living near the "left" coast are great distance drivers.  I
know any number of people who kvetch and complain if a kingdom event
is held in Allyshia (Eureka), six hours north of San Francisco, or in
Silver Desert, four hours to the northeast.  I know people who were
more active in the old days, but hardly play now because they refuse
to drive more than two hours to an event.  The complaint that many
people who live in Angels or Altavia won't travel to Calafia is true -
I know, I used to live in Angels.

I know people who will travel to every major in the West, regardless
of distance.  I know people from the West and Caid who drive to
Pennsic almost every year.  I know an occasional poster on the Rialto
who goes as many caidan events as he goes to western ones.  I myself
have been thinking of a "little" road trip to Loch Salann (sp?), a
mere 16 hours away...

I think the amount a person travels has as much to do with the person
as it does the roads, or the culture, or the kingdom.  Some people
don't mind travel, and others do.  Given it's easy to drive to LA from
Sacramento...six and a half hours cruising down I-5, and there you are
- a mere 350 miles south!  So yeah, the road is easy!  How about
Fresno to Bishop, a mere 100 miles?  Well, it's four hours IF THE
ROAD'S OPEN, and there are no gas stations or services on that road...
If the road is closed, which it will be from September to May, you
don't want to know how long it takes...

There are bad roads on the right coast as well as on the left coast.
Think, for a moment, how delightful the drive is from New Haven CT to
NYC, or from Providence RI to Portland ME, how about Hartford CT to
Springfield MA...  (What?  Did I hear screams out there?!?)  Ever try
to drive from Danbury CT to Norwich CT (fifty miles, if that - takes
two hours...)?  Self-evisceration strikes me as more pleasant...

Really, I think much of the distance driven has as much to do with the
personalities involved as it does anything else.

Twcs (who loves to drive, but hates to camp...)
From: bryant@husc8.harvard.edu (Katherine 'Kabeta' Bryant)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Dietary restrictions
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:43:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Apr14.114323.11074
Distribution: rec.org.sca
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Unto the visitors to the Rialto, and particularly unto Tibor of Rock Valley,
doth Gwenllian ferch Madog Llangollen send greetings!


Tibor wrote about diet restrictions and feasts.  I have run into this problem
too; my diet is far from as restricted as yours, Tibor, but I do have to 
watch what I eat fairly carefully.  (Perhaps "have to" is too strong; I
*should* watch what I eat fairly carefully.)_

I have also noticed the tendency for off-board tables to be away from the
interesting areas of a feast hall.  Also, as most of the borough of which
I am part tends to go on-board, I find myself sitting alone with my carefully-
chosen food, rather bored and lonesome.

Usually what happens is I finish eating well before the feast is over, and
then wander around to talk to people at the on-board tables.  But it still
doesn't seem nearly as fun; at one point I'd resolved not to go to any more
events until I had gotten off the diet.

But that doesn't work either.  I'd be curious to hear what ways others have
found for dealing with these problems.


And, as a side note:  VIVAT to Baron Patri!


--- Gwenllian ferch Madog Llangollen                       *
    Borough Duncharloch, Carolingia                  * gobeithio *
    Katherine Bryant, bryant@husc.harvard.edu              *
From: ccarroll@ho07.eng.ua.EDU ("Chris D. Carroll")
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re:  SCA Digest V5 #186
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:41:23 GMT
Organization: The Internet

DELETE ME DAMMIT.....
How many *^*%*%&&%&^*%^*% times do I have to request to be unsubscribed
from this annoying thing?
From: schuldy@bedford.progress.COM (Mark Schuldenfrei)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Re: Yaakov's BOD letter
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:57:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Sean MacKay (MCKAY_MICHAEL@tandem.com) wrote:

>   [ . . . ]          Second, they never mentioned the current privlages and
>responsibilities of members.  I think I have a pretty good idea of these
>(having been a senescahal and having listened on the Rialto for several years),
>but it is clear that many (most?) people don't know what these are.

From the 1989 revision of the Organizational Handbook:

By-Laws, V.C.2: Privileges of Members and Nonmembers.

  Every member of the Society is eligible for office and advancement
  within the Society, subject to the requirements for such office or
  such advancement, and the provisions established above.  [ section
  on why institutional memberships are excepted -- Tibor ]  While all
  participants in the Society's activities are encouraged to become
  members, membership is a requirement only for persons holding office
  or entering formal competition for the privilege of holding office. 
  Participation in tournaments, revels, re-creations or other Society
  events does not require membership.

It does cross-reference another section, which additionally allows kingdoms
to restrict certain awards to members only.

So, membership allows you to hold office, and in some places, to recieve
awards.  That's it.

	Tibor
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: ayk@presto.Camex.COM (Andrew Kobayashi)
Subject: Tacky combat
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 12:55:02 EDT

Since it is spring, and slow, tired, old men's thoughts turn to...

I've not been able to do any actual fighting for many months, so naturally
i sit around and think about it a lot.  I remembered a three-man melee
tourney i fought in many years ago, in which i entered the list bearing
a katana, a spear, and a naginata.  When "lay on" was called, i dropped
the last two and laid about me with the katana.  Our specific strategy
was to leg our opponents.  When this worked, i would amble over to my
abandoned weapons, trade the katana for a spear, and make short work
of the survivors.  (When it didn't work we got nuked, sometimes while
i was groping on the ground for a new weapon, but that seems fair. :-)
I had cleared this with the marshals first, so they weren't surprised.

Anyway, i was wondering how this practice might be viewed in other areas/
kingdoms.  Would this even be possible, or would the "discarded" weapons
be automatically removed from the list?  Would it be considered tacky?
Silly?  Note that i made no secret of the location, and anyone *else* was
free to go for one of them, though i only had to chase one person off.

I've got to go find something useful to do now...

		--Master Kobayashi Yutaka/Andrew Kobayashi
		  Carolingia,East/Boston Area,MA,USA
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: U254@sysm.acs.virginia.EDU
Subject: Inquiry to Rialtans
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:46:00 GMT


Unto the good folk of the Rialto from Landon of Wulfkeep, greetings!                                                                
?e   I too have had the experience of using 'milady' in a mundane
context.  Fortunately the worst reaction I ever got was 'You must                                                                   ?ebe in the Society for Creative Anachronism!'


Yours in service --                                                                                                                 
   Landon of Wulfkeep                 Landon Falls                                                                                  ?e   Isenfir, Atlantia                  Charlottesville, Virginia, USA

Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
From: ingo@norton.waterloo.edu (Electroholic)
Subject: Re: SCA Digest V5 #187
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:25:39 GMT

In article <9204131848.AA04981@math.bu.edu> jeffs@math.bu.EDU (Jeff Suzuki) writes:
>
>Geoffrey de la Iglesia asks:
>
>>I am compiling a list of SCA references in fiction.  
>
>A non-fictional (sorta) oblique reference to the SCA occurred in the
>GURPS sourcebook "High Tech", where they mentioned the availability of
>high quality medieval style armor, due to the influence of "various
>recreation groups"...
>
in that case, you might also want to mention the fact that sca fighters are
listed in the vampire source book as well...


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From: Richard.Boyko@f43.n140.z1.fidonet.org (Richard Boyko)
Newsgroups: rec.org.sca
Subject: Transylvanian runic scri
Date: 12 Apr 92 10:12:04 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:140/43 - U of S Computing Se, Saskatoon Sask


 On 04-12-92 Bill Pusztai wrote... 
 
 
 BP> My grandmother lived in the area between Hungary and Romania, 
 BP> known as Erdely or Transylvania. She told me of a kind of writing 
 BP> called Rovas Iras, which to me looks like it might be related to 
 BP> some of the north-European runic scripts. Apparently, in her time 
 BP> (turn of the C.), it only survived in the remotest mountain 
 BP> villages of Erdely. I haven't a clue where to begin researching 
 BP> this - can anyone give me any pointers? 
 
Greetings once again from Layamon! 
 
A good place to start would be books on mediaeval orthography. Is the 
university library catalogue on-line? It might make it easier to look 
through if it was. 
Another possibility: You are studying in the best place in North America 
to study mediaeval history. the Pontifical Institute for Mediaeval Studies 
and the Center for Mediaeval Studies likely have excellent rescources to 
answer that question. 
- Layamon le Vavasour of Cambridge 
 
 
... OFFLINE 1.32 * Noli umquam puerum mittere ut laborem viri faciat 

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From: Mike.Steiner@p1.f207.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: IQ Statistics und SAT, GRE, GMAT
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:21:54 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:143/207.1 - Sunnyvale Fido Conn, Sunnyvale CA


Colin Rose writes about "IQ Statistics und SAT, GRE, GMAT" to All  [08 Apr 92
17:38]

CR> I am modelling the distribution of IQ at selective universities, 
CR> where selective embodies SAT, GRE and I guess IQ tests. Does 
CR> anyone have figures relating SAT, GRE or GMAT test scores with 
CR> IQ scores. The modelling is being done with Mathematica, and 
CR> is to be published soon in a book on Mathematica, so it is quite 
CR> important that the given numbers are accurate. After searching 
CR> through over a thousand messages in this group, I have managed 
CR> to glean that IQ is the normal random variable with mean of 100 
CR> (by convention), and standard deviation somewhere around 20. 
CR> If mensa membership is restricted to the top 2% of the distribution, 
CR> then these figures imply that the entry criterion to mensa is 
CR> an IQ of 141. Is this the actual figure? I recall seeing a figure 
CR> of 136 somewhere, and 132 somewhere else. If you can tell me 
CR> the entry requirement, and if mensa IS restricted to the top 
CR> 2% of the population, then I can work out the implied standard 
CR> deviation. 

Colin, differing IQ tests have differing scales.  For instance, the Catell test
has 148 for its 98th percentile.  The SAT has 1250; the Army GT has 136 (however,
that is of the general population; 140 is the 98th percentile for those people
in the military).  By contrast, 145 is the 99th percentile for the GT test,
and 1502 is the 99.9th percentile for the SAT.

I hope that I've been of some help.
 
/207 143/207
--  
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INTERNET: Mike.Steiner@p1.f207.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG
"The views expressed above are those of Mike Steiner only."
From: Mike.Steiner@p1.f207.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Who pays for schools?
Date: 15 Apr 92 05:01:39 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:143/207.1 - Sunnyvale Fido Conn, Sunnyvale CA


Dave Aronson writes about "Who pays for schools?" to All  [14 Apr 92 19:53]

DA>  Other people have suggested that only those who go to school 
DA> (or  their parents) should pay for schooling because they are 
DA> the only  ones who pay for it. 

DA> Er, don't you mean "who benefit from it"?

Me? Make a mistake?  NEVER!  Well hardly ever--this was one of them. :-)

DA>  Exactly. That is one of the major reasons why although I believe 
DA>  Libertarianism is the general direction the country needs to 
DA> head in, I  dread the day they hold major power... it would be 
DA> a bleak one for  education, ease of travel, utility customers, 
DA> those in need of police  protection, those whose houses happen 
DA> to catch on fire for one reason  or another (which would be more 
DA> likely since they would not require  that one's *neighbors'* 
DA> houses are up to fire codes), etc. etc. etc. 

I share your concerns, but I don't dread the day...I'm sure that the Libertarian
party, like all the others, will temper dogma and ideals with practicality.
 
/207 143/207
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INTERNET: Mike.Steiner@p1.f207.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG
"The views expressed above are those of Mike Steiner only."
From: phil%miracle@merk.com (Phil Hill)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Who's in charge here?
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 92 19:35:42 EST
Organization: Miracle Computer Consultants

Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson) writes:
>I wrote:
>
> DA> If memory serves, he is the moderator (not in the "censor" sense
> DA> of moderated newsgroups, but more like the "guy in charge")
>
>phil%miracle@merk.com (Phil Hill) replies:
>
> PH> I am _NOT_ in charge here (I'll leave that job to Al Haig :->).
> PH> Nor is Ed Bertch, nor is ANYONE.
>
>Then is there nobody "empowered" to speak on behalf of the newsgroup itself?

NO!

This is an "unmoderated" newsgroup.  Which means it's a free-for-all.  Some
people will gain more "respect" than others, while other will gain some
"disrespect".  I'm posting the FAQ and have posted a lot of information
about Mensa, so I guess that gives me a little respect.  On the other hand
I've also gone on a flame war or two, so I guess that it all evens out.

Why do you ask?

- Phil
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From: tai@ailab.ncsu.edu (Scott Tai)
Subject: /T/ What is the purpose of this newsgroup and Mensa?
Reply-To: tai@ailab.ncsu.edu (Scott Tai)
Organization: NCSU Artificial Intelligence Systems Laboratory
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:35:31 GMT

Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson) writes:

>Mike.Steiner@p1.f207.n143.z1.FIDONET.ORG writes:

> MS> Scott Tai writes
> ST> terryk@encore.com (Terence M. Kelleher) writes:

> TK> Scott, have you attended enough Mensa functions to be sure of what
> TK> "typical" is for Mensa?  I've been in  Mensa 3 years, I have not.
> ST>                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

> ST> You just contradicted yourself!

> ST> Sorry, couldn't pass this one up... :)
                                          ^
> MS> You should learn how to read.        |
                                          `------------------.
> Mike, do you feel a tugging sensation in one of your legs?  |
> Let me point something out: --------------------------------'

> He gotcha good this time!  That's a midget smiley.  Remember, nil
> carborundum illegitimi (as those who actually took Latin in school
> wince in pain).

Thanks, Dave :)

By the way, your margins are fine from this end!


---------
Scott Tai
From: tai@ailab.ncsu.edu (Scott Tai)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: /T/T/T/ 'Herr Goebbels'
Date: 6 Apr 92 18:55:34 GMT
Reply-To: tai@ailab.ncsu.edu (Scott Tai)
Organization: NCSU Artificial Intelligence Systems Laboratory

jess%miracle@merk.com (Shi'nayne) writes:

> And just what do you think *you* are doing???  I would have to say you
> are wasting even more bandwidth by posting this stuff in the first place.

Like you aren't...

---------
Scott Tai
From: sanjays@chepkkss.ncsu.EDU (sanjay snarna)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: how to put in a kill file
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:17:18 GMT
Reply-To: sanjays@chepkkss.ncsu.EDU (sanjay snarna)
Organization: North Carolina State University

i have a  sun station with the xrn newsreader. it has an option for author
kill for a session only. how can i put an author in a permanent kill file 
and also how can i filter all the replies or followups on some subject ?

it is kinda sad that there is so much trash in this group. but still i
would never like to have it moderated. but it does merit a thought which
was in one 
of the essays in Time magazine i.e " should freedom of speech be
extended even to nazis who if they had it their way, would deny the
right to others".

.. anyway, if you could help regarding the kill file, that would be great.
From: tai@ailab.ncsu.edu (Scott Tai)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: (T) REFORMATTED ARTICLES TO FOLLOW
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:16:04 GMT
Reply-To: tai@ailab.ncsu.edu (Scott Tai)
Organization: NCSU Artificial Intelligence Systems Laboratory

As requested...

---------
Scott Tai
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
From: jec28605@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Deacon Blue)
Subject: Re: Who's in charge here?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:34:22 GMT

rmg53668@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ryan M. Grant) writes:

>Ok.  Im not in the top 1% of world brains, or in mensa - But I can figure out
>	how to edit my postings.  U of I just got your newsgroup here, and I 
>	am expecting some interesting puzzles, arguments and discussions.  
>	Hopefully the arguments will be easily readable, and well edited, 
>	because I will of course be devoting my brainpower to the task at hand,
>	and would rather not be trying to figure out who said what where, and
>	where it has gone now.

>					Thank You,
>					- Ryan Grant

Sorry, friend, we've been sorely deluded.  This isn't the REAL rec.org.mensa..
It's alt.cascade.

Help me stop this menace to bandwidth!  (Whatever bandwidth is.....)

Send me $20.  or candy.  I have a horrible physical deformity involving power 
tools and other sordid tales, I am insane, and I NEED candy!!!!!!


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From: Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: A REAL CHALLENGE: Fermat's last theorem..
Date: Tue, 07 Apr 1992 00:31:06 -0500

roger@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig) writes:

 RL> "I have found a truly remarkable proof for this theorem, but there
 RL> is no space to write it here."  (This was in the margin of a book.)

Maybe he proved that it was unproveable, and was having us on?  B-)

 RL> Actually, it *has* been proven correct for the special case (exponent =
 RL> 3) that you cite above.

Is the proof brief/simple enough to summarize here?

 RL> Actually, I don't know of many mathematicians who think it's
 RL> undecidable.

Which means?

 RL> My favorite version: in the W. 4th St. subway station, someone scribbled
 RL> Fermat's Last Theorem on a poster, and added: I have found a truly
 RL> remarkable proof of this, but my train is coming.

 That's a LOT more intellectual than I'd expect to find scrawled in a
 subway station, especially if you mean NYC!  Would have been a welcome
 relief during many boring waits in the Philadelphia system.  (The
 Washington system is very clean, so I probably wouldn't have gotten to
 see it here.)  On a related note, back before all the subways and buses
 insisted on headphones if you wanted to play music, when people would
 blare rock (always the worst, ya ever notice?) a friend and I had
 planned to blare some Bach and Mozart there on his boom box.  As luck
 would have it, it broke a few days prior and he couldn't afford to get
 it fixed for quite some time....
From: mcbeanb@brandonu.ca
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: Re: Rebuttal/Anecdote/Respect!
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:52:53 GMT
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

In article <1992Apr11.062740.27944@ncsu.edu>, 
cjdcosta@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRISTOPHER J DCOSTA) writes:
> 
> If you don't think that mensans are intelligent, and that the
> entrance criteria are flawed, then you cannot draw any 
> conclusions from the behavior of mensans on this group.

Why not (not that I don't think Mensans are intelligent)?

Brian McBean  -  McBeanB@BrandonU.Ca
From: tai@anlab.ncsu.edu (Scott Taic)
Newsgroups: rec.org.mensa
Subject: /T/T/T/ The 2% Rule
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:01:38 GMT
Reply-To: tai@anlab.ncsu.edu (Scott Tai)
Organization: NCSU Artificial Intelligence Systems Laboratory

ines: 10

k080093@hobbes.kzoo.edu (Josh N. Vander Berg) writes:e
> Why the HELL do you sttop to his level Mike?  all
 are getting worse than
> Scott.

For the record, I've never used Mike Steiner's level of profane language
in my articlPs (unless quoting from someone else's article).

---------
Scott Tai
From: craig@cattnts (Craig Campbell)
Subject: Re: one simple question
Organization: AT&T / NCR Canada Ltd., Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:40:38 GMT

In article <702047055.F00012@blkcat.UUCP> Dave.Aronson@f120.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Dave Aronson) writes:

> A bash not responded to looks, to the outside world, like a bash to
> which there cannot BE a response, because it is the truth.  Silence in
> the face of accusation is tantamount to confession.

Not to all of the outside world.  An accusation is just that.  Innocent until
proven guilty, and all that.  Some of in the outside world can differentiate
between being accused and being proven guilty.

-- 
Craig Campbell		|	These opinions are entirely the result of a 
Systems Engineer	|	small butterfly crashing into the far side
NCR Canada,		|	of the planet.  Chaos Rules.
an AT&T Company		|	I speak for no one, except, possibly, myself.