HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: Who should/shouldn't trip...
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:10:50 GMT

 kamal@specialix.co.uk (Kamal Mortoza) writes:
>I did a lot of acid between 20 and 18 years ago when I was in my teens and
>early twenties. Fortunately for me - I was all too aware of the "freak out"
>factor and so - the trips were always in a very controlloed environment -
>usually with one or two others - and there was always one present who would
>stay straight (just in-case). Once - however, I included my brother - who
>I hadn't seen in some time, he was persistant so I let him trip with me.
>Unfortunately, he - despite being a wonderful person in many ways - suffers#
>from a large ego. At first all seemed well - my wife stayed straight to watch
>us, and we played some cool music and talked between "freaks" (getting into
>a halucination). Then he went very quite for a while...Then he started laughing
>and yelled "that's been it all the time - I AM GOD!".
>This got our attention - he had got into a state where he thought he was
>totally invincible and invulrenable to pain. Despite heavyly triiping myself,
>I ended up having to restrain him from sticking his hand in the flames of the
>gas cooker, leaping out the window (but fortunatly we were in a basement flat),

That was a good post, Kamal.

One lesson to learn is to watch out for people with ego problems.  What
might be a tolerable exaggeration in normal life may become a problem
for them, or a severe annoyance to others.

Tripping with someone who always has to be right, always have to know the
answer, or always be in charge, is a bummer; furthermore, one can often
See their problem, but not excorsise it.

--
David Honig

"Q: What does a C programmer say to an Ada(tm) programmer?
 A: I'll have a burger and fries, no onions."
From: esterling@igc.apc.org (Eric Sterling)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Transportation of controlled substa
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:57:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Dec10.220844.17397@reed.edu:-2126942581:cdp:1301300220:000:464
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!esterling    Dec 11 11:57:00 1992



Carrying drugs on an airplane flight is stupid.  The risks are high.  You
are subject to search for suspicion of weapons.  Baggage will be x-rayed.
You go through a metal detector.  If you set it off, and your keys, pens,
coins, etc. once removed don't quiet the machine security goes over you
with a wand.

The penalties are high -- Federal fines of up to a million dollars for
felony transportation.

Just getting busted is an awful hassle.  Jail until bailed.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.psychoactives
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Fried Brain on Acid
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:04:55 GMT

aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
: 
:  While reading this post I got a silly idea: What if during the process of
: tripping, one encountered a stimulus or stimuli that, induced the brain
: into rewiring itself in a random way? (By brain, I mean the cortex) I mean
: these stimuli are certainly elusive, but conceivably thewy could exist.
: And what might it take to rehabilitate a victim of this hypothetical
: affliction. By no means am I suggesting this as a proscription against the
: use of LSD or any other hallucinogen. But it judst seemed an interesting
: possibility. It wouldn't necessarilly have to be random either. Some
: overwhelming stimulus may ber able to render a tripper vegatative. I have
: no idea how frequently such an event could occur. (Please no flames on
: this, just discussion. I'm not out to spread myths and fear...) 

Let's put it this way. There is no medical documentation of anyone becoming
a vegetable due to LSD usage.

Bill
From: bierbach@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Marijuana Effects
Date: 19 Dec 92 17:19:47 GMT
Organization: Georgetown University

In article <1992Dec17.183553.2897@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, drumm@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Danny) writes:
> In article <1992Dec17.53247.13786@ms.uky.edu>, sheila@nx26.mik.uky.edu (shelia c kinney) writes:
>>   a question:
>> 
> [...]
>>  I've heard, um, my friend has heard that there
>>  are tiny particles of fiber glass in menthol cigarettes; the 
>>  "cool" sensation is due in part to the fiber glass cutting 
>>  into the lung tissue.  
> 
> 
> fiber glass in cigarettes?  I hope you are just pulling our legs!
> 
>>      (hoping it's oh so true...for the sake of my friend)

Isn't the material in cigarette filters fiberglass? Whenever I rip a 
butt apart, that is what it looks like. If so, maybe that is how the 
UL started....

-- 
Jeremy Bierbach                                          Georgetown University	
                     bierbach@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mch6@ellis.uchicago.edu (Huitzilopochtli)
Subject: Re: Recipe for CRACK & Personal Experiences Requested
Reply-To: mch6@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:42:09 GMT

The drug I would recommend for one-time use only is (in your specific case) education. Crack is probably the last drug anyone would consider to be a one-time-use-so-that-if-I-don't-like-it-I-won't-be-addicted-to-it,-thus-making-my-life-total-hell drug.

That's just a guess, though.

From The Paracas Necropolis, reporting dead : Hui
From: cappiell@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Steven Cappiello)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: LSD vs SHROOMS vs DEXTROMETHORPHAN
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:27:33 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania



Can someone please elaborate upon the differences among
	trips on   LSD,  Shrooms,  and  Dextromethorphan.?

Feel free to be subjective as well as objective.
ThanX.
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From: styri@hal.nta.no (YuNoHoo)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Reply-To: styri@nta.no
Organization: Bohemians and Globetrotters, Unlimited
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 12:36:38 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.024619.24224@fy.chalmers.se>, smidt@fy.chalmers.se (Peter Smidt) writes:
|> In article <92348.143452U56673@uicvm.uic.edu> U56673@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
|> >There is a leathal dose of ANYTHING (with the exception of air).
|> 
|> Wrong. Air to is lethal. At 80 meters depth divers can be intoxicated
|> by normal compressed air, because the partial pressure of oxygen
|> is so high that it starts to make some *very* rapid oxidation of
|> your nerves and also breaking down the cells. 

Wouldn't that be at the same depth you'd have some problem with the nitrogen
as well. Anyway, that's about the place where the partial pressure of oxygen
would be getting too high. (Ie. unless you're diving in a lake, or maybe a
deep well, that's really high up in the mountains, but then you'd probably be
busy looking for daytime stars.)

Anyway, if you're going down to 80 meters you'd want to use something other
than air.

(While we're at it, how much pressure will a wet-suit take before it's useless?)

---
YuNoHoo
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Subject: [anonymous] foo
Originator: lamontg@hardy.u.washington.edu
Keywords: anonymous
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Organization: Somewhere
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:21:13 GMT


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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: khat
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 17:33:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.074202.18558@husc15.harvard.edu> blom@husc15.harvar
.edu writes:
>OK.  Look, people.  The thing many of you are calling khat is not khat. 
Khat
>is the stimulant prepared from Catha Edulis, and it is hardly all that m
ch
>stronger than caffeine.  This other synthetic chemical is something else
>entirely.


 OK. I'm going to be the Reference Meister today... (I think I have a
reference for just about everything...) Check this out concerning
cathinone and methcathinone (cathinone is the most potent of the
stimulants in khat. Methcathinone is a syhthetic N-methylated analogue...):
"Methcathinone: A New and Potent Amphetamin-Like Agent" RA Glennon, et al,
(this name should be familiar to any hard-core psychopharmacologist) 
Pharmacology Biochemistry and Behaviour 26, 547 (1987). I haven't looked
at the article yet so I can't comment on it. I'll be posting my comments 
later for the benefit of all those interested...

St. Anthony

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From: bwhite@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (William E. White )
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.psychoactives,sci.med
Subject: Re: MJ neurotransmitter found, opiate receptor cloned (Jour: Science)
Date: 19 Dec 92 22:51:36 GMT
Organization: Ohio University, Computer Science Department

In article <1gub34INNa8a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bz269@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (James D. Del Vecchio) writes:
>	That's a tall order.  They might as well be wishing for effective 
>opiate painkillers that aren't addictive.  
...

>	The painkilling and the tolerance causing effects are one
>and the same, from everything I've seen about it.

I'm not sure if that's entirely true; there are at least four (maybe five?)
opioid receptors identified (mu, delta, kappa, sigma, maybe something else);
I think Kappa-opioid receptors in particular result in somewhat different
effects than mu and delta receptors (kappa-agonists reduce pressure pain
but not heat pain).
Now, I would imagine there's no chance of getting a completely non-addictive
opioid agonist (just as there's probably no chance of a cannabinoid agonist
free of psychotropic activity), but it may be possible to get nearer to that
goal than we are now.

>Jim Del Vecchio


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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Extraction of THC
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:32:07 GMT

In article <mtymp15.724545628@staff.tc.umn.edu>, mtymp15@staff.tc.umn.edu (David Hutton) writes:
>Now, my problem is that I am not a fan of alcohol, and yet there is a large
>quantity of THC floating around in my test-tube.  The preparation is known
>worldwide as "Green Dragon."
> 
>Does anyone know how to extract the THC from this solution?

Oh, quit whining and fix yourself a drink.  You might enjoy it.

The problem here is that whiskey has a large amount of water in it (about
half).  If you boil it, the alcohol (mostly) will evaporate first, leaving
you with water and THC precipitate.  Hmmmm...  maybe that's the way to go.  
Boil it until the volume is reduced by more than half, then filter the
precipitate and smoke it.  

If you had used ether, you could evaporate it down to hash.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu (Eli Brandt)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:07:41 GMT

In article <92347.142617U56673@uicvm.uic.edu> <U56673@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
> victims are often treated with a patch that contains (its a common
> med icine prescibed to people with heart problems) a medicince and a
> solvent that a llows the medicine to travel through the skin.  I

You're thinking of nitroglycerin.  It doesn't need a solvent to be
absorbed through the skin -- headaches are (or were) a common
problem among workers in NG plants, due to its vasodilatory effect.

It shouldn't be too hard to see whether LSD can penetrate the skin,
if you're so inclined.  Take a tab and swish it around in a few
drops of distilled water.  Apply the solution to a convenient skin
location, and wait a bit.

> note #1: water, sweat, saliva... these are all solvents for lsd and
> may be able to carry it though the skin.  

Think about it.  All three of these "solvents" are water,
essentially.  Does water pass through the skin?  Not very well.
When you take a swim in fresh water, do you undergo osmotic lysis?
Never been a big problem for me.

> Legen may have started because many people were makeing lsd in the
> 60's.  I bet some of them may have used such a solvent in th ier lsd.

Somehow I doubt even the lowest-budget of LSD synthesists would
substitute axillary sweat for ethyl ether.  

>malcalypse

	 PGP 2 key by finger or e-mail
   Eli   ebrandt@jarthur.claremont.edu

(and finger works now, really -- fingerd won't show my .project to
remote sites; oops.)
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:25:05 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Please edit the followup line to just alt.drugs.  This discussion
really doesn't belong in rec.pets.cats.

Thanks.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
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From: kevin@pages.com (Kevin Sven Berg)
Subject: Re: Death from Caffeine (was Re: caffeine myths)
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:37:31 GMT

In article <BSIMON.92Dec15073342@elvis.stsci.edu> bsimon@elvis.stsci.edu  
(Bernie Simon) writes:
> In article <Bz3E6v.ApK@cen.ex.ac.uk> PVossler@cen.ex.ac.uk
> (P.J.Vossler) writes:
> 
>    Does anyone know if there are other active ingredients in coffee other  
than 
>    caffeine ?
> 
>    Several friends have given up drinking coffee on the advice of homeopaths 
>    who state that the undesirable effects of coffee stem not so much from 
>    caffeine as from other constituents.
> 
> Coffee contains oils which can irritate the digestive track. People
> who have digestive problems of any kind should try abstaining from
> coffee for a while to see if their condition improves. This includes
> decaf coffee, which has the same oils. Homeopaths are also down on
> coffee because it often antidotes homeopathic remedies.
> 


Interesting. Some naturopathic medicine advocates a weak solution
coffee-enema. The treatment is suppose to trigger release of toxins
in the intestines. The release is so pronounced that it is not
recommended for initial stages of detoxification.

My digestive track basically seized up when I gave up coffee
cold-turkey. Strange...

Kevin
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From: ahaigh@unixg.ubc.ca (Andrew B Haigh)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: >The Book: Psychedelics Encyclopedia
Date: 15 Dec 92 08:47:27 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
NNTP-Posting-Host: unixg.ubc.ca

	Hmm... Iv'e had the second edition for a number of years now. Could you possibly give us a review of the Third edition as to what parts have been revised/added/deleted/etc? That way we can tell if it is worthwhile purchasing the updated edition. Thanks
			ahaigh@unixg.ubc.ca
From: cappiell@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Steven Cappiello)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: HOW DOES ONE TRIP ON SUBSEQUENT DAYS ??
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:23:43 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


I've heard that it is and is not possible to trip the day after a trip.

What is the method (dosage) required for this and what are the specifics?

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: (null pointer)@rock-opera.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan the Witchling)
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD overdose taken (was: Re: Brands of LSD)
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:53:27 GMT

In article <92348.143452U56673@uicvm.uic.edu> <U56673@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>There is a leathal dose of ANYTHING (with the exception of air)  You can OD and

	Water death?  Drowning?

	Well, you CAN OD on water in your lungs.

	For that matter you can OD on air.

	Lessee, I just duct-tape your eyes in and seal your nose shut and
seal your lips around this here air-compressor hose and -- viola!
	*POP*

	Well?  It's true.  It *might* work.  If you'll just sit still
long enough.

					Sean

Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.dreams,sci.med
From: raphael@fx.com (Glen Raphael)
Subject: Re: caffeine myths
Organization: FXD/Telerate, Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:51:39 GMT

v092kdab@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (susan) writes:

>I was wondering how caffeine affected atheltic performance.  Why would an 
>athlete use caffeine?, and why are the consequences so high?

Caffeine, like cocaine, is a stimulant. In fact, coke and caffeine have the
exact same desirable-to-athletes effect -- each drug causes an temporary
increase in physical and mental alertness with a later corresponding
decrease. If you time it right, you can use up some future energy in order
to get more energy for right NOW. Get enough sleep in between and that can
really come in handy for those marathon runs, or cross-country drives, or
term papers...

Glen Raphael
raphael@fx.com
From: tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!))
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Fried Brain on Acid
Date: 19 Dec 92 21:29:52 GMT
Organization: The Reality Liberation Front (pixels to the people!)

aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom) writes:
>
> While reading this post I got a silly idea: What if during the process of
>tripping, one encountered a stimulus or stimuli that, induced the brain
>into rewiring itself in a random way? (By brain, I mean the cortex) I mean
>these stimuli are certainly elusive, but conceivably thewy could exist.

     What if one encountered such a stimulus while not tripping? Christopher
Chernak has written an interesting story along this line, "The Riddle of
the Univerese and Its Solution"; it's in Hofstadter and Dennet's _The Mind's
I_ - recommended reading for all humanity, IMHO.

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From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: US takes WOSD to Somalia
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 06:47:58 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.101554.1@csc.canterbury.ac.nz> civl097@csc.canterbu
y.ac.nz writes:
>Radio NZ reported this morning that a US marine commander in Somalia
>said that Khat was considered contraband and was being confiscated.
>
>-- 
>
>Brandon Hutchison,University of Canterbury,Christchurch
>                  New Zealand


 Did that report specify from whom it was being confiscated? I.e. is it
being  simply confiscated from US Marines caught using it or the Somali
people?

St. Anthony

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         |   \ |  || Ph               chlani izbrani
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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: kaminl@rebecca.its.rpi.edu (Matt Garretson)
Subject: Re: sleep paralysis /hypnogic hallucinations/ night terrors
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:44:55 GMT

In article <17790@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>It's amazing what kids will do when first "liberated" from their
>parents!

Only if you are easily amazed.  My staying awake for 5 days wasn't nearly as
amazing as the fact that, during those five days, I did a semester's worth of
work. Granted, it wasn't quality work, but it was enough for me to 
graduate. Hopefully, someday I'll learn to stop procrastinating-- but I'll
worry about that later.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: DANGER: Paralysis from Homebrew!
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 00:39:35 GMT

gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven) writes:
: 
: >I have a sort of related question on nasties in beer.  Recently, I gave
: >some homebrew to a professor of mine who is eager to try it, but told me
: >that her daughter had heard of some case in California where seven people
: >had suffered paralysis because they drank someone's (obviously not too pure)
: >homebrew.  Sounds pretty exciting - it get's better: they weren't cured
: >of this until some smart person injected fetal tissue into their brains!
: >Is this out of Weekly World News?  Is it a story spread by Mr. Koch at
: >Sam Adams?  Or are there people putting smack, or Drano and baby laxatives
: >in their beer or something?  She observed correctly that I am still alive,
: >and therefore deduced that she would not perish from my beer and that she
: >might just as well drink it.

Interesting blend of fact with imagination. Wonder why they chose home
brew - instead of marijuana or lsd or one of the other "nasty" drugs.

Bill
From: honig@ruffles.ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Subject: What drug is Internet most similar to?
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David A. Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: 12 Dec 92 19:39:04 GMT

 cucem@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Chad Mattingly) writes:
>I was asking a friend of mine who has used acid in the past about it and
>he said that you can't get it anymore and that all the people that talk
>about it are really taking strychnine or something else, but not lsd. Is
>this true?  Also, what's strychnine like?  James Herriott said it
>amplifies sensory inputby such an extreme factor that a dog who had
>eaten strychnine (back before regurgitants were included in rat poison)
>had to bekept in a dark room that was kept completely silent, since any
>light or sound would so frighten the dog that his whole body would go
>into spasms of an almost lethal severity.

Your friend doesn't know what she's talking about.  Check the lsd-faq.

>
>What drug is Internet most similar to?

Alcohol.  There's lots of it, and it makes you stupid.

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