HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: sjg@phwoof.ph.kcl.ac.uk (Simon Gornall)
Subject: re: Calligrapher Postscript drivers.
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:54:11 GMT
X-Posted-From: dogmatix.ph.kcl.ac.uk
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

I've have encountered the same bug that was mentioned on Usenet a few days ago
ie: that letters such as 'O', 'e', 'a' etc are completely filled with no white
space in the centre when the text has been wrapped around a curve or circle.

I read the usenet article and was pretty angry that there was no support
forthcoming from WT, so I rang to complain. The conversation went something like
this...

Me:  I am having problems printing with the postscript driver when I use FlexText
     PAK.

Him: Yes there is a bug in the PS driver. We'll have to replace your pscript.sys
     file. Can I have your name ?

Me:  <blah> 

Him: I'll send it to your registered address by tomorrow. Ok ? 

Me:  Fine. Thanks.


I reckon you can't really expect much more than this.

Simon.

>>> A truly wise man never plays leapfrog with a unicorn <<<
Xref: sparky comp.sys.atari.st:15239 comp.sys.atari.st.tech:5208
From: dennis@citr.uq.oz.au (Dennis Remmer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,comp.sys.atari.st.tech
Subject: Handscanners etc
Summary: etc etc etc
Keywords: Scanners
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:17:12 GMT
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland

Greetings,

Question: Are the various scanners available for the Atari ST hardware
specific, or can one suitable for an Amiga be used with the correct
software?

The reason is, I see many handscanners and so forth for sale in the
local trading post, but they are advertised as suitable for Amiga'a.
I'd like to purchase one of these if they can be used with little or
no modification as they are very reasonable priced.

If the answer is yes, is Touch-Up suitable software...

All answers appreciated...


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From: an938@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (George II Lenzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: MIDI sysex info needed
Date: 11 Oct 1992 18:12:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


	I want  write a short program for sending and recieving
sysex data.  I am aware of programs like STMIDIEX, but I need
something where I can type sysex codes within the program and
send them.  I haven't seen anything like this which is why I wish
to make one myself.  Any suggestions?

-- 
"I'll let you in on a little secret.
	The whole universe is totally INSANE!!!!"
						Mr. Natural

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: carrollw@ucs.orst.edu (William Carroll)
Subject: FOR SALE - 5 1/4 in I.B. Disk Drive
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
Distribution: us
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:46:43 GMT

  
   I have the following FOR SALE!!

	I.B. 5.25in DS/DD Disk Drive
	"Drive Master" switch box (switch between two drives)
 	
	Will let both go for $120.00


 Call me at (503) 752-1452
		OR
 Email to carrollw @ucs.orst.edu


	
Thanks for your time and computer space!

	Bill Carroll
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Boot from B drive
Date: 17 Oct 1992 01:14:50 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

> I am also interested in any software program that will allow me to
> 'boot' from drive B.  Any info. on this topic would be most appreciated.
> 

Get 'DC-Bootit', that will let you boot from drive B: from memory.  
(Unfortunately, only on auto-booting disks though).  It'll also let
you boot up in 60Hz or 50Hz depending on what you want!
From: dsb@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Scott Bigham)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: HSC
Date: 9 Oct 92 22:50:28 GMT
Organization: n. Arrangement in an orderly or logical fashion.  See "miracle".

From the Holy Book of <4epQPni00awA4XBlhF@andrew.cmu.edu>
  as spake by osoelgaultier+@CMU.EDU (Stefan Monnier) :

>Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 7-Oct-92 Re: Which programming
>langu.. Domenico De Vitto@unix.b (454)

>> You can pick up sozobon C at 'a.a' and I've found it pretty good.
>> (go for sozo133i first then when you feel the need upgrade to sozobon2, as
>> the first auto-installs etc)

Actually, no.  Despite the misleading version numbers, 1.33i actually is
the more recent version and has a number of bugfixes over 2.0.
Basically, as I understand it, the original authors of Sozobon went off
in another direction, and Ian picked it up.  Hence the name change to
Heat-n-Serve C.

>By the way: what about version 1.40 promised for 'very soon' some
>time ago ?

It's stuck in beta at the moment.  The last round of bugfixes I know of
was a while back.  Probably his free time got munched when school started
[I know mine did :-( ].

						-sbigham
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From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Summary of "which programming language"
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:03:14 GMT
Reply-To: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany

In <ABADDON.92Oct12113422@suprenum.uk.ac.liverpool.scm.suprenum> abaddon@uk.ac.liverpool.scm.suprenum (Kevin o donovan) writes:

>>>>>> On 10 Oct 92 10:14:06 GMT, sheppard_r@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz said:

>> also the speed of GFA has to be seen to be believed, its faster than compiled
>> C...??

>Perhaps if you were using a really bad C compiler, with slow libraries, or 
>you'd just moved from BASIC to C (ie you're writing in C as though you were 
>using BASIC), but otherwise that's just laughable.

Well, it may not be that ridiculous after  all.  I've  found  out
that  a  very  significant  amount  of time is actually spent not
executing interpreter stuff, but TOS calls. Seems to me that even
the  best  C  compiler  can't  shorten  the execution time of TOS
calls...
Also, there's no reason why compiled C should be the fastest HLL.
Much rather, it's mostly a question how well the compiler and the
libraries are done. I agree that modern C compilers have an  edge
over  GFA  basic these days, but that may change when the new GFA
version by Richter hits the street. BTW, according to Richter the
new GFA basic will allow full access to any library, so you'll be
free to choose the one you think is the best.
Finally, the claim that a "C-ish" programming style automatically
will  compile  to fast programs is considered to be folklore even
by most C folks, including those  who  maintain  FAQ  sheets  and
such...

Greetinx, Jan

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From: ekrimen@wet.UUCP (Ed Krimen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: First Falcon030 impressions
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:31:43 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

Bill Magro,
 
Thanks for the quick review of the Falcon.  Looking at the list of programs
you tried, you need to get more mainstream ST applications -- other than 
TEX. :^)
 
Have you ever used a Mega STE or TT keyboard?
 
And a comment about the mouse control, perhaps the problem with the strange
movement of the mouse is due to the Golden Image mouse itself and not the
Falcon.  I have one sitting here on my other ST and I've never liked the 
mouse.  Yes, yes, I know how many people out there just love it, but I think
it's substandard.  I'm one of those people who loves the regular ST mouse.
The main reason I don't like the GI is that when you move it quickly, which
I seem to do often, it skips, which I find very annoying.  Anyway, enough of
the mouse rambling.... :^)
 
Thanks again for the report.  BTW, how did you manage to borrow the Falcon?


-- 
   |||    Ed Krimen
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: kjackson@cix.compulink.co.uk (Keith Jackson)
Subject: Re: Programs needed for Binkley Term
Reply-To: kjackson@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 07:03:01 +0000


In article <1ar9hrINNju@golem.wcc.govt.nz>, shore_c@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz 
(Craig Shore) writes:
>Binkley Term is a program ported to the St from the PC for using 
> FIDO etc. It's in the atari/Telecomm dir of a.a (btst???)
>
>What I was wondering, it needs some other files to run properly.
> one of them is there in the atari/Telecomm dir called oMMMM,
> but how about these ones...
>
>Msged - an editor essential for sending any messages out!
>ParselST
>Whatarc
>
You should be able to get all of these programs on Fidonet. I use
Binkley Term 3.02a with Area Cleaner Software (ACS) and Little Red
Editor (LED) to run as a point on Fido and a node on NeST. I needed
a lot of help from various people to get going. It's difficult to
start with but is well-worth persevering with.


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      *               - 2:250/413.4@fidonet.org                *
      *               -90:104/109.0@nest.ftn                   *
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From: reiner@kommu.UUCP (Hr Reiner Plaum)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Falcon Refresh Rates
Keywords: Falcon, refresh
Date: 12 Oct 92 12:45:42 GMT

The graphic features of the Falcon have been published and discussed in 
detail, however, until now I didn't find any indication of the refresh 
rate of the Falcon.
I didn't buy a TT because of its low refresh rate of 60 Hz (for the normal 
resolutions), which would have forced me to buy an additional graphics card.

So my question: Which refresh rates can be provided by the Falcon?
Since the SM124 is supported, the Falcon must provide 70 Hz for this 
resolution. But what about the various other resolutions ?

Hopefully waiting for an answer (and for the Falcon),

Reiner Plaum
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: martini@heaven7.in-berlin.de (Martin P. Ibert)
Subject: Re: uucp for TOS
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:22:17 GMT
Organization: The Seventh Heaven, Berlin, Germany

dunham@devnull.mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham) writes:
> I don't even know what UUCP is, and here I am asking how to get it.  I do
> understand that UUCP is required for me to be able to transfer files bet-
> ween my Atari ST and a friend's Unix system, though, so this is my first
> step. 

UUCP means "Unix to Unix CoPy" and is a fuzzy name describing a single command,
a family of file transfer protocols, a whole setup of programs, and a
philosophy :-)

> Is there something which runs on a 1 MB ST (no MiNT, no Minix) that allows
> me to establish a UUCP connection over 2400 baud modems with a Unix (actual-
> ly Xenix) machine?  I figure if it's not known on this newsqroup, it probab-
> ly doesn't exist.

Several UUCP packages for Ataris exist. I wrote one, which is why I recommend
it :-) It is named "Hermes", and the current version is 1.04. Any good FTP
server should have it; if not, contact one of the better-known German servers.
Hermes lets you send and receive mail, news, and yes, files. The setup is
rather complex, especially for people not speaking German (because the docs
are mostly in German). But it can be and has been done. Hermes is shareware,
the cost is DEM 60 (about USD 50-60 including conversion charges).

But as some other poster said, if you really need nothing other then file
transfer, have your Unix friend install sz/rz, get RUFUS and off you go.
Then UUCP would be plain overkill.
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Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:51:00 -0400 
From: Stefan Monnier <osoelgaultier+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: ATARI COMPUTER WISH LIST
	<1992Oct13.184403.19723@admiral.uucp>

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.atari.st: 13-Oct-92 Re: ATARI COMPUTER
WISH LIST Dave Litchman@admiral.uu (7207)
> >
> >> 6) Upgradeable video route... at least a standard of upgrading an
> >ST's video.
> >
> >There is a wide variety of Graphic adapter boards for ST&Mega
> >available.

> But no *standard*...

WHY DO YOU WANT STANDARD GRAPHICS BOARD ???????
The VDI driver is here to permit the use of the card without having to know
how it works, how it is connected, how is the internal image format, etc...

It's not like PCs !!
It's rather like MAC !

> >
> >> 19) Customizable Desktop ( have you seen MOTIF ? ).
> >
> >Well, not like MOTIF, but close. Have you tried Gemini or NeoDesk?

> Gemini and NeoDesk are nice, but they leave something to be desired...

I believe Gemini and Neodesk are both still improving !
And anyway, they don't have anything to do with Motif: Motif is not a 
desktop, it's a window manager !

> Italian Plumber and Blue Hedgehog)... Voiceover again, "The Atari Jaguar. 
> We've let the Cat out of the  bag."


> >
> >> 26) A remake of the mega STe (68000),but merged with a 386, with AT slots,
> >>     this will attack the PC market as well as well as people who need both
> >>     systems.- I KNOW THIS VERY POSSIBLE.
> >
> >A remake of the MegaSTE with better CPU (68030) and SVGA (1024x768
> >8bit) level display technology. Who needs Intel?

> Unfortunately, most of the personal computer users out there today...

If you need Intel, get a PC: I'm sure it's cheaper to get an ST and a PC than
to get an hybrid machine !
BTW: hybrid machines never had any success (remember CP/M and MS/DOS
machines or other 68000/8086)

If you buy an ST, it's not to use it as a PC !

	Stefan

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: aeg03@rrz.uni-koeln.de (Jan T. Kim)
Subject: Re: Which programming language?
Keywords: C MarkWilliams
Reply-To: kim@vax.mpiz-koeln.mpg.dbp.de
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne, F. R. Germany
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 10:39:17 GMT

In <1992Oct07.170129.9404@bnr.ca> grier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier) writes:

>As a first programming language I normally would not recommend C. But
>I agree that C offers the best access to the power of GEM.

I don't agree. GFA basic offers full access to GEM too,  plus  it
offers  some  powerful  and  convenient commands and functions to
handle GEM without having to worry about low level stuff (e.g. to
create  a  menu  you  just  put the menu titles and items into an
array of strings and then you do a MENU x$()).

[...]

>I currently use PURE C, and recommend it highly to someone that either
>has MWC, or Atari's developer kit as reference material. The orignal name
>of PURE C was Borland Professional C. Borland dropped support but sold the
>source code rights to a German company with the stipulation that they NOT
>translate the manual to english, so you sometimes have to fight the manual
>to find the information you need.

Does anyone out there have an idea WHY Borland doesn't want there
to  be an English Pure C manual? I can't seem to see any point in
such an agreement.

Greetinx, Jan

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From: an938@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (George II Lenzer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: I guess no one knows how to program a desk accessory?
Date: 11 Oct 1992 18:09:20 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


	I need info on programming DA's.  What language should I
use to do it with?  Do I need a developer's  package?  Can it be
done relatively easy (as my experience is limited to programming
with GUI's.)  Please respond if you know anything.

					Thank you all,
					George II Lenzer

-- 
"I'll let you in on a little secret.
	The whole universe is totally INSANE!!!!"
						Mr. Natural

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: atari@cs.ruu.nl (Atari-ST Software)
Subject: Re: Atari FTP sites
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 09:16:20 GMT
Organization: Utrecht University, Dept. of Computer Science

In <1992Oct7.043634.13681@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> boyd@shmop.cs.fsu.edu (Mickey Boyd) writes:

>In article <1992Oct6.220910.17354@ulrik.uio.no>, jarleb@athena.uio.no (Jarle Brinchmann) writes:
>>
>>Back in the old days Chris Wood used to compile a
>>quite good list over anonymous ftp sites. Much better than
>>what you get from using archie....
>>
>>Is he or somebody else doing this still, my last list is from
>>29/04 -92. (Well maybe not so old days) ?
>>
>
>Unfortunetely, no.  I have a copy of the last version, which I still use a 
>lot (greps are always faster than archie :-).  If there is enough interest, 
>I can post it.
>
You can also find the list in our Atari archive.

________________________________________________________________________
  We, Computer Science department, Utrecht University,  are  running  an
anonymous  FTP  server  on  one  of  our systems. In addition to the FTP
service we're also running a mail  server,  for  those  of  you  without
direct Internet access.


--> How to get 'ARCHIVE LIST' via anonymous FTP:

    Site:     ftp.cs.ruu.nl  [131.211.80.17]
    Login:    "anonymous" or "ftp"
    Password: your own email address (you@your_domain)
    file:     /pub/ATARI-ST/ST-ARCHIVES


--> How to get 'ARCHIVE LIST' via e-mail from our mail-server:

    NOTE: In the following I have assumed that your mail address is
	  "fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu"; of course you must substitute
	  your own address for this.

	  | Please use a VALID DOMAIN ADDRESS.
	  | Use 'hip!hop!user' if you must.
	  | Never use an address which has both '!' and '@' in it.
	  | Bitnetters use user@host.bitnet


    Send the following message to
		mail-server@cs.ruu.nl
    or the old-fashioned path alternative
		uunet!mcsun!sun4nl!ruuinf!mail-server


    begin
    path fred_flintstone@stone.age.edu (SUBSTITUTE _YOUR_ ADDRESS)
    send ATARI-ST/ST-ARCHIVES
    end


The path command can be deleted if we receive a valid from address in your
message. If this is the first time you use our mail server, we suggest you
first issue the request:

      send HELP

  A complete "ls-lR" listing of the archive is  kept  in  the  top-level
directory, it will be updated every night. To get it, issue the command:

     send ls-lR.Z

  That's all for now. If you encounter problems using  the  FTP  service
and/or the mail-server, feel free to drop me a line (by e-mail, please).


Ate Brink

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Email: ate@cs.ruu.nl
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From: evilandi@VNET.IBM.COM ("Andrew Oakley")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: STOS updates for Falcon/TOS2
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:56:49 GMT


   Does anyone know if Mandarin/Jawx software have any plans to update the
STOS BASIC suite of programming tools to make them compatible with the new
Falcon, or indeed TOS2?

   If so, will there be a complete re-write of STOS ("FLOS"!?!) to take
advantage of the Falcon's full capabilities, or will it be another patch?

   I currently have 3 STOSed shareware programs, plus another 3 Budgie UK
licenceware proggies out; will I be able to convert these for the Falcon?

Andrew Oakley (evilandi@vnet.ibm.com)
IBM Warwick, UK (I speak FROM IBM, not FOR IBM)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jad2433@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Neonman)
Subject: Re: Spectre
Reply-To: jad2433@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 16:21:59 GMT

Yes Spectre fans, I too have had a hard time getting through to Dave Small
I would guess he has,
A; Bugged out and is on hold for a while, not willing to address the public,
B; OR, and most likely, he is really getting to busness and trying to get
out more of his SST boards, and a software upgrade.

Lets hope its B

I have spectre 128, and a MegaTalk Board which I have some interesting
stories about, If you care to start up a diaalog about it I'm willing.
I'd also be willing to buy a used "working" GCR cartridge from someone,
without the rom's, if there is such a person out there.

If you know a Mac harddrive that will actually start up with MegaTalk SCSI
(all do not) in Mac mode, I'd like to know that as well.

Thanks Justin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: antony@milton.u.washington.edu (Anthony Hand)
Subject: SM147 : How Good?
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:54:44 GMT

It looks like my SM124 high rez monitor may be about to bit the dust and
I'm looking at my options for a replacement. 

One possibility is to try and pick up another used SM124.  But I've also
been thinking about getting the new SM147.  I've only seen these monitors
a few times, and now the local dealers are either out or ...out-of-business.
Is there a general consensus about how good the SM147 is?  I like that it's
got a larger display, but I wasn't pleased to see the screen develop interference lines whenever the disk drive was accessed.  Perhaps this monitor was 
reviewed in a magazine I could still get my hands on...?

One other option is to get a multi synch monitor.  Any recommendations
here?  Controls on the front would be important.

THanks in advance for any info on this...

Tony

antony@u.washington.edu


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: AEO address?
From: jonc@status.gen.nz (Jon Clarke)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 17:05:19 GMT
Organization: The Z*NET Global News Gateway. Parnell New Zealand

hohmuth@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de (Michael Hohmuth) writes:

> > I don't know if the staff of AEO is available via the Usenet or not.  I kno
> > they can be reached through GEnie, however.
> 
> It's available. You can subscribe it at stzmagazine-request@virginia.edu.
> 
> Michael
> -- 
> Internet: hohmuth@freia.inf.tu-dresden.de
> 

 
 Try looking in alt.znet.fnet if your site carries it else if you just
 want to email us send it to znet@status.gen.nz
 
 regards

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