HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: drew@kinglear.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt)
Subject: Re: DOS2Linux: Newbie to Newbie
Organization: University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 17:50:15 GMT

In article <bjl.713562403@freyr> B.J.Lippolt@research.ptt.nl writes:
>sakaria@vipunen.hut.fi (Sakari Aaltonen) writes:
>
>>1. You have compiled your first hello.c for Linux. You type
>>  hello
>>and nothing happens. Gotcha! Unlike MSDOS, say, Linux does NOT automatically
>>search your current directory. You should type
>>  ./hello
>
>You can put '.' in your path. In 'csh' or 'tcsh' you do this as follows:
>
>    % set path = (. <rest of your path>)
>

What happens if you are in /tmp, or some other world writeable directory,
or my directory, and I've left a trojan ls or something?  I know have 
access to all your files, and perhaps other machines you log in on.

Having . at the front of your path is just plain stupid.

If you MUST have . in your path, put it at the end.
-- 
Microsoft is responsible for propogating the evils it calls DOS and Windows, 
IBM for AIX (appropriately called Aches by those having to administer it), but neither is as bad as AT&T.  Boycott AT&T, and let them know how you feel. 

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)
Subject: Re: Linus security/Non root access
Originator: jlnance@volt.ece.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:29:47 GMT


|> >
|> >One solution I can think of is getting a machine that has a password protected
|> >BIOS, and allows the change in the boot order with the hard drive first. I would
|> >love to hear other ideas, if any do exist.
|> >

There is the school of thought that it is impossible to make a pubically
accessable machine secure.  The solution that has been proposed and implemented
is to have 1 or more file servers in a physically secure place (locked room).
The public machines then download the files they need from the file server
after the user at the public machine has been authenticated to the file server.
It is possible to do this authentication in a manner that does not need to 
assume that the public machine has not been compromised, and in a manner that
avoids sending passwords over networks.  Even with this method, it is not
possible to guard against a person writing a program that looks like the login
program and steeling passwods.

The reason I mention this, is this system has been implemented at MIT.  It
is called Project Athena, and I believe that all of the software that they 
developed for it is public domain (there is a /pub/athena directory on tsx-11).
We use this system at here also, and I would love to be able to be able to
connect a linux machine(s) into the system.  I have no idea how much work
porting the software to linux would be (after tcp/ip gets into the kernel).
I would appreciate any information about this that anyone might have.

Thanks,
Jim Nance
From: liljeber@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Mika Pekka Liljeberg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux history...
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:52:08 GMT
	<1992Aug3.165201.26088@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
	<1992Aug12.173725.21885@news.uni-stuttgart.de>
	<1992Aug13.095315.18548@klaava.Helsinki.FI>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Helsinki, Finland

In article <1992Aug13.095315.18548@klaava.Helsinki.FI> torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Benedict Torvalds) wrote:
> In article <1992Aug12.173725.21885@news.uni-stuttgart.de> haible@izfm386i.fertigungstechnik.uni-stuttgart.de (Pascal Haible) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug3.165201.26088@klaava.Helsinki.FI> wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:
>>[...]
>>>
>>>Linus is currently about 22 years and 7 months young.  He speaks
>>                          ^^^^^^^^
>>That is already well (?) known - at least to kernel source readers
>>-- or did he harcode in his girl friend's birth day?
>>(hint: it's no use grep'ing for 1969 or 1970, it's a bit hidden)
> 
> No, it's my birthday, and I'm surprised anybody found it.  I thought I
> had hidden it well enough :-).  And I'm not giving hints. 
> 
> 		Linus

It's pretty easy to find now that one knows it's there.
I also liked the little pun right beside it. *8^)

Well, let's see to it that Linus gets many 'Happy Birthday'
cards, next time he has the misfortune to grow older. ;-)

	Mika

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Dept. of Computer Science
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: yuanyin@utdallas.edu (Yuan-Yin Wu)
Subject: Re: linux-logo, gif version uploaded to tsx-11
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Keywords: linux logo
Organization: Univ. of Texas at Dallas
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 02:19:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.231055.16091@unislc.uucp> erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
>Yuan-Yin Wu (yuanyin@utdallas.edu) wrote:
>
>: Since some one here said he wants a gif version of the linux logo,
>: I've put one in gif87 format in the incoming directory at 
>: tsx-11.mit.edu. Or if you have gs, just run gs to get a gif output.
>
>Since we can't read the incoming directory, it would be nice if someone
>would mention the name of the file... :(
>-- 
>Ed Carp, N7EKG     erc@apple.com                801/538-0177
>"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
>happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
>and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"

Oops. Well, if ever it'll appear there, it'll be linux-logo.gif.

-- 
Yuan-yin Wu      yuanyin@utdallas.edu       (214) 690-2152
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Notebooks and linux
Date: 15 Aug 92 22:15:03 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Distribution: comp
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <SOLWORTH.92Aug14162101@newyork.eecs.uic.edu>, solworth@newyork.eecs.uic.edu (Jon Solworth) writes:
| 
| 	I would like to get a notebook and run linux on it.  I am particularly
| interested in the Compudyne 486DX-33, Toshiba 4400, TI 4000, and other
| 486{S,D}X notebooks.

  Linux runs on good notebooks, but I have not tried monochrome X, so I
wouldn't bet a penny on how well that will work. Someone else will have
to give you that info.

-- 
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    I admit that when I was in school I wrote COBOL. But I didn't compile.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cummings@hammer.Prime.COM (Kevin Cummings)
Subject: Re: The Third Degree
Keywords: questions
Organization: Prime Computer R&D
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:13:54 GMT

In article <pz91Ht-g*8@atlantis.psu.edu>, bairstow@copland.psu.edu (Steven Bairstow) writes:
> My Linux partition just bit the dust, so I'm going to ask for some 
> information before I re-partititon it. (I want usr and swap partitions 
> instead of one big one this time.) Anyway I want responses from anybody 
> who knows about any of this, even if it's just a "yep." Without further 
> ado here are the questions....
> 
> 	- Has anyone noticed free inodes being left around? I think 
> 	  halt/shutdown is doing it. (This is what I was trying to figure 
> 	  out when it crashed.)
> 	- What is the current status of long filenames? Is it a patch?
> 	  How reliable is it?
> 	- Do any of the current disk sets handle SCSI disks well? How about 
> 	  the partitioning programs?
> 	- How big are the X11 binaries plus whatever special stuff is needed 
> 	  to write X-programs? 
> 	- Has anyone ever considered an X driver for plain VGA? Why or why 
> 	  not make one?
> 	- Is anyone interested in a patch that would add a timeout default 
> 	  to the "Press <RETURN> to see SVGA modes or any other key to 
> 	  continue." message?

YES INDEED.  I haven't had the time to work on this stuff lately, but a timeout
would definately be useful.  (Especially one with a configurable default, but then
again I haven't looked at 0.97 or 0.97pl1, shame on me).

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David Giller)
Subject: lx.ps.Z on reggae: another Linux Logo
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 09:14:07 GMT

With about a half an hour of free time (while waiting for the
F**ing modem to get freed up so I could call in to get my news :-)
I decided to jump on the bandwagon and design my own Linux Logo.

The logo is based on the very nice concept by Russel Nelson
(many aplolgies, Russ: I accidentally attributed the Lx design to
Peter MacDonald in the readme file that is on reggae with the 
ps file... mea culpa).  There are twelve variations on the theme,
twelve because twelve isn't much bigger than one, when drawing with
CorelDraw.  If there are any problems with the PS file for the UNIX
amoung us, please let me know: it is a MS Windows-created PS file.

Please let me know what you think.

Again, apologies Russ, I made a big error: The original design was
by Russel Nelson, not Peter MacDonald.  (But Peter, feel free to
use the logo when packaging SLS if you'd like: I'll give you an EPS
or the .CDR original if you'd like).

-Dave

-- 
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From: jhelberg@nl.oracle.com (Joost Helberg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Linux logo
Date: 14 Aug 92 08:59:30 GMT
Organization: Oracle Europe
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X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

welshm@snail.rtp.dg.com (Matt Welsh) writes:
: I got the newest version (EPS) of the linux logo direct from
: the artist, and my previewers (Ghostview and GS) both barf on
: it, with the errors:
: 
: Error: /undefined in !
Right, I notified James.

10 minutes of hacking however solves your problem too!

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: roe2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Cave Newt)
Subject: Re: Why ZIP/UNZIP slower than DOS version?
Reply-To: roe2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 05:34:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.050921.19572@athena.mit.edu> chchen@stat.fsu.edu writes:

>BTW, a little warning. I used a shareware program called zipsplit
>to split zip file made by Linux zip in DOS and when I wanted to
>unzip the sub-zipped files in Linux, the unzip won't do it.

Presumably you are using the Norwegian ZIPSPLIT program by J. H. Holm;
it has a small bug in it.  UnZip 5.0 has code to deal with this, but
since you're already using Info-ZIP code, why bother?  Zip 1.0 and later
are distributed with a zipsplit program.

Greg Roelofs
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)
Subject: Re: Can I use dd on my UNIX system instead of Rawrite?
Originator: jlnance@volt.ece.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:27:18 GMT


In article <1992Aug11.192753.8568@dg-rtp.dg.com>, welshm@groupw.rtp.dg.com (Matt Welsh) writes:
|> I've been thinking. Instead of using rawrite on DOS to put the binary
|> Linux images onto diskettes, couldn't one just copy the images to the
|> raw floppy device on their UNIX system such as:
|> 
|>   cp boot-US.1 /dev/pdsk/1
|> 
|> Or use dd(1)? I'm pretty sure this would accomplish the same thing as 
|> rawrite under DOS. Has someone tried this?
|> 

Yes, I have done this using both a Decstation5000/25 and a Sun Sparkstation.

On the Sun:
floppy device is /dev/fd0
format using : fdformat

On Dec:
floppy device is /dev/fd0a
format using : fddisk -fmt /dev/rfd0a (Yes, you need the r)

On either system (substitute approiate device name):

cat boot.img > /dev/fd0                         # makes a boot image
tar cvf /dev/fd0 what.ever.files                # puts a tar file on disk
tar cvf - what.ever.files | compress > /dev/fd0 # makes tar.Z file on disk

Now my question:
Would it be simple to modify the mtools source to allow it to read and write
linux files onto a floppy instead of dos files?  (We could call it ltools).
I think that this could be useful.

Jim Nance
From: meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.mil (Michael E. Hoffman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: can't compile texmgr
Keywords: TeX, MGR
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:08:58 GMT
Reply-To: meh@math33.sma.usna.navy.mil (Michael E. Hoffman)
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: U.S. Naval Academy

Well, I've been stuck on this for two days, so I'll try asking the net:
I've installed both TeX and MGR from the stuff on tsx-11.mit.edu.  It
all works pretty well, though MGR is a little buggy (it crashes if you 
make the windows too big).  Now there's this program texmgr, which 
purports to be a TeX previewer for MGR.  I'd dearly like to have it,
but the make always crashes at the link stage:  it can't find the
library libmalloc.a.  Hacking the makfile to leave it out doesn't work,
so evidently it's essential.  WHAT IS IT?  I've never seen such a library
anywhere.  Am I supposed to generate it somehow?  Any help is appreciated!

ps.1:  I'd really rather use xdvi, but my video card won't support X as
yet.  I hope the S3 cards get support soon.

ps.2:  Linux is terrific!  Everyone who's worked on it has my profound
admiration.

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From: karol+@pitt.edu (Filip M. Gieszczykiewicz (fmgst@unix.cis.pitt.edu))
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Unexplained crashes - possible cause
Summary: in my case anyways
Date: 18 Aug 92 05:43:59 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


	DO NOT REPLY. BORROWING ACCOUNT. REPLY TO fmgst+@pitt.edu. THANKS

	Greetings. I'm new to Linux (in fact, today was the first time I
	got the boot & root disks to work... WOW! :-) but have a possible
	solution to some peoples' problems.

	A few years back I got a 80486/25 with 8 megs of ram, a 200MB
	IDE, and a ProDesigner II VGA board and monitor. All was dandy
	except that MS-Windows 3.0 would *reboot* my machine once in a
	while. Support had no idea what the heck was wrong - and they
	had the pleasure of playing with my motherboard twice :-) and
	they finally sent me a new motherboard (but put the old RAM from
	the original: hint-hint).

	Well, I just stayed away from Windows utill I got 3.1. Just
	after the installation I got the message I was waiting for -
	"Partity error. System Halted" At least I now knew what the
	hell was going on. After fooling with the 8 SIMMs I found one
	that would crash Windows:

		My test consisted of running 16 tasks of "Shaker" which
		comes with MicroSoft C SDK and "shakes" memory around
		to see if your program uses malloc() or the new one
		that you're supposed to use - basicly ABUSES all the
		RAM in the system.

	Well, it turned out to be one darn 1MB SIMM that was the
	problem. Again, the problem ONLY and I mean ONLY showed up
	in Windows - not even extended memory testers or other system
	"burn-in" programs (like CPU24.ZIP on 135.252.135.4) 

	Is your Linux crashing NOW-AND-THEN? Is your MS-WINDOWS also 
	crashing now-and-then? CHECK THAT RAM!!!

	By the way, after pulling the "offending" SIMM, I noticed that
	it's the "old" 9 chip design. I'm not sure it it's just shoddy
	assembly (probably, since the contacts are only tinned not gold-
	plated) but some of the chips were DARN close to each other - the
	spacing was not even. Some leads ALMOST touched at room-temp and
	I can only wonder what they did after being "shaken".... ;-)

	So, next time you're upgrading RAM, get the new 3-chip SIMMs and
	(with the prices being what they are) get faster ones.

	
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From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Few Questions
Date: 17 Aug 92 09:58:00 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

rafal@utstat.uucp (Rafal Kustra (summer student)) writes:
>2) (did ask it before but no answer...) Why does (re)nice
>in top seem to work au reverse (ie renicing the process
>-19 seemes to speed it up, +14 slows it a lot)

The `nice' value is a measure of how eager the process is to run.  A
nice process doesn't want to run very eagerly, instead it lets other
processes run more.  So if you increase the nice value, it gets even
less eager to run, and therefore other, less nice processes run more and
the nice process runs more slowly.

--
Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)
Subject: Re: What we need is an *address*.
Originator: jlnance@volt.ece.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:40:06 GMT


In article <1992Aug21.134200.24537@uwm.edu>, rick@ee.uwm.edu writes:
|> 
|> Rather than "organizing something" to help Linus pay off his computer,
|> why don't we just ask him for his address and prefered currency?
|> Then whoever wishes may go to their local bank and have a money-order
|> made out in whatever amount they wish and send it via paper-mail.
|> (Remember: Don't send bills and coins through the mail. They vanish.)
|> 
|> So, Linus?  What's your address? and what's your favorite currency?
|> 

From Linus'es request for post cards:
          Linus Torvalds
          Pietarinkatu 2 A 2
          00140 Helsinki
          Finland

Jim Nance
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: krej@electrum.kth.se (Kristian Ejvind)
Subject: Re: Few Questions
Organization: The Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 17:23:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.030814.18259@utstat.uucp> rafal@utstat.uucp (Rafal Kustra (summer student)) writes:

   3)What do the options to fsck mean? I couldn't find a man
   page for it and one on *this* (university) system is
   inapropiate.

I can only speak for myself, and my linux system, but, once I got the
source for fsck (maybe in something like src/system.tar.Z on some site)
and the options were written in the top comment in the source code.
I am using 0.96a and fileutils from sometime in the stone age (well,
beginning of this year, at least). Hope this will help.


/Kristian

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: lfoard@Turing.ORG (Lawrence C. Foard)
Subject: Re: Linux support BBS- what happened?
Keywords: Linux, BBS, dial-up, broke
Organization: The Turing Project, Charlottesville Virginia.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 22:08:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug18.031209.9192@eskimo.celestial.com> shamus@eskimo.celestial.com (Jay Mottern) writes:
>
>What ever became of the Linux BBS on 508-793-9568? It was supposed to
>be for people with no Internet access so they could get Linux files.
>Everytime I call it, I handshake with a modem then nothing! My terminal
>doesn't echo local commands when I try to type anything. I hit enter
>a few times, still nada. I end up having to drop carrier and disconnect.

You need to hit return a number of times. Unfortunitly I had to modify
getty to work this way since otherwise error correcting modems would
always fail to connect since they send garbage to the computer.
(does any one know if there is a better way around this problem?)

Just try hitting return rapidly until you get a login prompt.

So far there hasn't been much interest in the BBS so I haven't kept
up with the latest Linux files for it, but if people request a particular
file I'll try to get it.
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From: jjk1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Konsultant Josh/fuzzy.happy.green.box)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: DOS2Linux: Newbie to Newbie
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:51:16 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <bjl.713562403@freyr>, bjl@loki.pttrnl.nl (Ben Lippolt) writes:
>
>You can put '.' in your path. In 'csh' or 'tcsh' you do this as follows:
>
>    % set path = (. <rest of your path>)
>
>In 'sh' and 'bash' you do it like:
>
>    $ PATH=.:<rest of your path>
>    $ export $PATH
>

Although this can be done, it is generally considered a terrible
security risk when done in the root account.  The point is that the
superuser should be running only programs which (s)he knows the
location of; for example, if you have a . in your path and you execute
"alias dir 'ls -lasg'" in csh, you can quite easily have just run a
program in the current directory, called alias, which wipes your disk
out.  Obviously, you're not going to expect such things in distributed
files or when there is nobody else using your system, but it also
helps "protect you from yourself" in some instances.

Of course, as root on your own machine, it's up to you :-)

-- Josh
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From: baron@clifton.hobby.nl (Wim `Blue Baron' van Dorst)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: 32mb patches for Linux 0.97.pl1 now available
Organization: Minix Hobbynet Host
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:54:57 MDT

faith@bodie.cs.unc.edu (Rik Faith) writes:
> The 32mb patches allow the Linux kernel to use more than 16mb of RAM.
> I have placed the 32mb patches for Linux 0.97.pl1 in the following places:
[... addresses deleted ...]

I just wondered: why are these patches not included in the 'official'
sources for the the kernel? I've seen messages for the '32MB patches' 
for various kernels, but apparently it is not to be a genuine part of
Linux. Why? 

Met vriendelijke groeten, Wim `Blue Baron' van Dorst
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