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From: joxlade@ncrgb.unitedkingdom.ncr.co.uk (John Oxlade)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
Subject: Re: Current NCR systems
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:14:01 GMT
Reply-To: joxlade@ncrgb.london.ncr.uk (John Oxlade)
Organization: NCR UK Software Services, London

In article <2576@blue.cis.pitt.edu> wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell) writes:
>
>So, what systems does NCR make now?

Oh, boy, I hate open ended questions, but I'll never learn...

3100 Systems - portables.  3130 Pen based, 3170 Safari (keyboard jobby)
3200 Systems - entry level desktops, 386sx and better, AT or MCA
3300 Systems - larger (but not large) desktops, 386sx and better, AT and MCA
3400 Systems - desksides (BIG!) 486sx 25MHz and better, MCA, some have
               multiple CPUs
3500 Systems - office-side (seriously BIG!), multi-processors, the first
               range of systems that don't run DOS or OS/2 - run Unix only
               (Windows/NT when it's released)
3600 Systems - even bigger, a bit out of my ball game.  Definitely doesn't
               run DOS - shame really, I bet some of the games would be
               great.!  Oh for a Unix SVR4 version of Wing Commander that
               would run on a multi-processor machine.
3700 Systems - WOW.!  Supposed to support upto 4096 CPUs, and would eat a
               Cray for breakfast.

I should point out that this description is a little superficial, but I
don't have enough space to list all of the models and their specs.

Anything else we can help with ?
-- 
John Oxlade, SSD, NCR UK Ltd. Tel: +44 (0)71 725 8820  FAX: +44 (0)71 725 8374
                   EMail: John.Oxlade@UnitedKingdom.NCR.COM
"You may not always think your customer is right, but he's ALWAYS your customer"
From: jacobybrian@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
Subject: MPCA Card
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:27:48 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

Hi.  Anyone used the MPCA card for just RS-232 comms to non-Unix box (a) DG
(b) VAX?  Have latest and greatest versions of all O.S. software.

Replies to me here.  Thanks.

- Brian Jacoby
  Systems Pgmr.
  IMMC
(jacobybrian@sally.bvc.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
From: ayre@fraser.sfu.ca (David Ayre)
Subject: FTP site for NCR?
Keywords: ncr FTP
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:05:18 GMT

  Hi, I was woundering if their exists a FTP site for NCR bin's and source code?

  I'm still trying to figure out how to compile GAS correctly, has any one done
  this for a TOWER 32/???


  Thanks in advance!


  Storm D. J. Petersen
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

EMAIL:  ayre@sfu.ca   ATTN: Storm.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
From: brown@casey.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Ed.Brown)
Subject: Re: What is In House DLC ?
Keywords: ncr dlc datacom
Organization: Your Organization Here
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 13:55:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.100740.12113@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM>, wescott@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Mike.Wescott) writes:
|> In article <C1755r.G0q@ahwau.ahold.nl>, bart@ahwau.ahold.nl (Bart Loeff) writes:
|> |> I wonder if anybody has any info on the In House DLC port of an NCR Tower
|> |> T32/400 and T32/450.
|> |> I know it is being used to connect POS-systems (like NCR2126) to the Tower.
|> |> Any idea how this thing works ? Is it some sort of synchronous (SDLC/HDLC) 
|> |> port ? Is it standard or proprietry NCR ? What kind of protocol is used on
|> |> this datalink ?
|> 
|> In-House DLC s a direct-connect communications link with a proprietary
|> (i.e. non-standard, I don't think there are any secrets there) electrical
|> interface.  The link-level protocol is usually an Async Response Mode
|> HDLC interface.  I think is runs at 64Kbps.
It runs at 48Kbps over a four wire tranformer coupled direct-connect 
communications link.  The data is Manchester encoded for receive clock
recovery.
-- 
  		- Ed Brown 
		  ed.brown@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
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From: ayre@fraser.sfu.ca (David Ayre)
Subject: where in the world is Christian?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:44:55 GMT

Hi, I'm looking for the fellow that replied to one of my postings on here.

Christian, I have lost your email address, please reply.

Thanks.


Storm D. J. Petersen
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

EMAIL: storm@sfu.ca   ATTN: Storm P.
From: wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
Subject: NCS platforms
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:37:21 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


What NCSxxx (sorry!) NCR platforms does this message area cover, and
what NCR platforms are current? Is the Tower still being sold?
From: wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
Subject: Life at NCR
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:38:48 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


So, how is working life at NCR?
From: root@acid.UnitedKingdom.NCR.CO.UK (John Corb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
Subject: Re: Current NCR systems
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:09:32 GMT
Reply-To: root@acid.UnitedKingdom.NCR.CO.UK (John Corb)
Organization: NCR, FED Central Support, London

In article <2576@blue.cis.pitt.edu> wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell) writes:
>
>So, what systems does NCR make now?

Disclaimer - I'm an engineer not a human product range catalogue, if I missed
anything please don't be annoyed.

we make and/or resell (e.g. in the case of AT&T developed systems)

System 3000s from notebook+pen-interface thru dos-os/2 boxes onto UNIX boxes
then multiprocessor UNIX boxes and at the top big-multiprocessor boxes:
the 3600 which is like a big UNIX TP engine mated with a Teradata DBC1012 and
on the way (if not here) the ever bigger 3700 which has an enhanced version of
the original Teradata Y-Net (BY-Net).
BTW Teradata is now a unit of NCR, called NCR Teradata.

RAID (redundant array of inexpensive disks) systems

A whole slew of SCSI peripherals (printers, disks, tapes,
and real big SCSI terminal servers)

Some 3B2s

Some StarServers, at least the fault tolerant one i think

Lots and lots of ATMs (automated teller machines)

Cheque (or check) processing and sorting equipment

Point of sale systems

Teller station systems

Loads of software including UNIX, COOPERATION, StarGROUP (Lan manager),
StarPRO (OSI), StarSENTRY (network management)

StarLAN (10BaseT + coax and fibre) hubs, media convertors, cards

StarWAN brouters

VDUs

X stations

Ethernet terminal servers

Some NCR country organizations also have groups (like mine) that will
design and manufacture custom systems and devices when there is nothing
that quite fits your needs.

+ whatever I forgot.


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From: doneill@cipc1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Dick O'Neill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
Subject: Re: BUNCH companies
Date: 27 Jan 93 21:46:40 GMT
Organization: NCR Corporation - Dayton, OH USA

In article <2648@blue.cis.pitt.edu> wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell) writes:
>
>   Back in simpler times, there was an acronym for those fairly large
>computer companies, which clustered (in size, though not neccessitarily
>in quality!) after IBM and DEC.  They were called the BUNCH companies.
>Does anyone know what each letter stood for?
>Burroughs
>Univac (Sperry)
>NCR
>C (maybe the C in NCR?)

Control Data

>Hewlett-Packard

Honeywell

I believe those are the missing names.

>Anyone know if this is right?


-- 
Dick O'Neill                                            
IRM - Infrastructure Operations, Technical Support     Telephone: (513)445-2294
Dick.ONeill@cipc1.DaytonOH.NCR.COM                     VOICEplus: 622-2294
...!uunet!ncrcom!cipc1!doneill                          
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
From: wescott@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Mike.Wescott)
Subject: Re: SCSI disk upgrade for 3450
Organization: "NCR Corp, Columbia, SC"
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 21:16:16 GMT

In article <C1Eyyw.ApA@casper.cs.uct.ac.za>, ken@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (Ken MacGregor) writes:

|> We wish to upgrade the disk storage on our NCR 3450.  According to the
|> local distributor the ONLY disk >1Gb which is approved is the Seagate
|> model ST41601N and this requires a proprietary NCR firmware upgrade so
|> cannot be sold direct to us.

The SCSI subsystem is written, as best we know how, to accommodate
generic SCSI peripherals.  Sometimes, however, we find bugs or other
problems in these peripherals that the vendor will fix by making an NCR
only change to their firmware.  I know of no contractual requirement
(***disclaimer*** but it's not my job to know), that prevents a vendor
from releasing that firmware to other customers.  I can think of
several support issues whereby a vendor would not want you to have a
firmware set that was "non-standard".

|> All the other computers in the dept - Sun's, SG's Vaxen etc. permit
|> upgrade by user purchased SCSI disks for which we enjoy the eductaional
|> discount.  There is no educational discount from NCR is SA.

|> Does anyone have any knowledge of other disks which can be used to
|> upgrade the 3450.

There is a good chance that a given drive will function correctly in
the 3450.  There is also a good chance that you'll have a hard time
getting support if something goes wrong.  And some of these devices do
have bugs that make them unusable on the 3450, whereas other "specials"
merely change some of the defaults (i.e. spare sector allocation
strategy).

--
	-Mike Wescott
	 mike.wescott@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
From: eddie@grok49.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Eddie Williams)
Subject: Re: SCSI disk upgrade for 3450
Organization: /usr/lib/news/organization
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 20:21:43 GMT

In article <108@shady.UUCP> kevin@shady.UUCP (Kevin Smith) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.161616.8596@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> wescott@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Mike.Wescott) writes:
>:>In article <C1Eyyw.ApA@casper.cs.uct.ac.za>, ken@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (Ken MacGregor) writes:
>:>
>:>|> We wish to upgrade the disk storage on our NCR 3450.  According to the
>:>|> local distributor the ONLY disk >1Gb which is approved is the Seagate
>:>|> model ST41601N and this requires a proprietary NCR firmware upgrade so
>:>|> cannot be sold direct to us.
>:>
>
>I know for a fact that HP 660MB and 1.2GB drives work fine.  I do believe
>that the Seagate drives are the only ones that NCR support will cover and
>putting unsupported drives in the cabinet may void NCR support.
>
>I also am pretty sure there is no special firmware issue with the Seagates.
>I can check this and will post what I discover.

I KNOW that there have been versions of Seagate Elite firmware that will not
work correctly with our system.  This is not to say the Seagate had a lot of
bad firmware only that almost ALL devices that I have worked with so far have
had bugs in their firmware that had to be fixed before we could support them.
What you are buying when you buy the device from NCR is that the device has been
tested in our system and will work.

There is also a fairly large amount of configuration information whose default
settings are defined by the devices firmware.  We expect certain defaults.  If
you get a device that has defaults that someone else wants then in certain times
you may not get the results expected.  For example notification of recovered
errors.  Most DOS environments (I am told) do not want to be notified of recovered
errors.  We feel that knowledge of recovered errors is good because if the
frequency of recovered errors increases it may point to a device that is going
bad, is getting marginal power, etc.  If you get the firmware off of the shelf
you don't know how it will be set up.

Eddie Williams
Ed.Williams@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
From: wescott@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Mike.Wescott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
Subject: Re: BUNCH companies
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:56:26 GMT
Organization: "NCR Corp, Columbia, SC"

In article <2648@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, wbdst+@pitt.edu (William B Dwinnell) writes:
|>    Back in simpler times, there was an acronym for those fairly large
|> computer companies, which clustered (in size, though not neccessitarily
|> in quality!) after IBM and DEC.  They were called the BUNCH companies.
|> Does anyone know what each letter stood for?
|> Burroughs
|> Univac (Sperry)
|> NCR
|> C (maybe the C in NCR?)
|> Hewlett-Packard
|> Anyone know if this is right?

It's not correct.  C and H are Control Data Corp (CDC) and Honeywell.
And it was before DEC was number 2.  Or even number 6.

There was also a time when the computer companies were called Snow
White and the Seven Dwarves.  Snow White was IBM.  BUNCH were five of
the dwarves.  GE and RCA were the other two.

-- 
	-Mike Wescott
	 mike.wescott@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
From: wescott@yesac.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Mike.Wescott)
Subject: Re: Strange problem with NNTP
Organization: "NCR Corp, Columbia, SC"
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 19:49:06 GMT

In article <424@uiunix.ui.org>, ahby@cronos.ui.org writes:
|> Unfortunately, NNTPD seems to panic trap the 3445 when it is running.

Definitely an OS bug. The question is which OS? Which TCP/IP package?
And where was the panic trap?  Did you get a dump?

-- 
	-Mike Wescott
	 mike.wescott@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
From: un020307@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ncr
Subject: NCR 3331 Multimedia Learning Station
Date: 28 Jan 93 12:07:23 EST
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing


I am new to this newsgroup, so I hope this question has not been posted
earlier.  What kind of experiences have people had with NCR's 3331 Multimedia
Learning Station?  Has anyone used it as a development platform?  Playback
station?  How does it compare with Ultimedia?   


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Subject: subscribe
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Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:46:16 GMT

Please subscribe me...
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From: R.KITTREDGE@MD-B.Prime.COM (Roland Kittredge - Marketing 508-620-2800 x4666)
Subject: ICON'93 Conference Announcement
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:42:48 GMT

The following information was extracted from the ICON'93 Information
Packet just recently received on 1/20/93.

Thank you
=========================================================================
The ICON'93 Conference and Exposition will be held at the Hyatt Regency
Alicante in Anaheim, California, March 9-11, 1993.

To: All with an interest in Prime INFORMATION
    - as it was, as it is, as it will be.
    All with an interest in PI style data bases
    - UniVerse, Unidata, PI/Open, Pick-flavors.
    All with an interest in porting from Prime INFORMATION
    - "Main-Stream" databases, other options.

The 10th Annual Information Conference for 1993 will be addressing all of
these issues and more. With the demise of Prime Computer and the purchase
of their INFORMATION product by VMark, all of us are now faced with
decisions that will affect our businesses to some degree. Enough time has
now passed sine Prime's  announcements and the acquisition of PI/Open by
VMark for all of us - End Users, VAR's, Vendors, Consultants,
Manufacturers, Service Organizations and YOU - to reassess where we are
today, where we may want to head, and how to get there from  here.

The questions remaining to be answered deal with your company and your
professional future. Should I move to UNIX now or can I wait? Do I stay
with a PI style database or do I go mainstream? What are the differences,
good points and bad of  SUN, IBM, Sequent, Data General, HP, Pyramid and
the rest?

These questions are the purpose of attending ICON'93. We plan to have the
 answers for you. We are now putting together all the pieces to provide
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For those among us who plan to stay with PI on the Prime 50 Series for
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                     ICON'93  =  INFORMATION

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contacting Tanveer Khan @ (213)740-9237, Fax (213)740-6096, E-Mail @
T.KHAN@AIS1.usc.edu
From: R.KITTREDGE@md-b.prime.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: (none)
Date: 27 Jan 93 19:00:34 GMT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM


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before extraordinary item for 1992 was 46 cents per share compared with 33 cents
per share in 1991.
   Net income for the fourth quarter was $1.19 million (18 cents per share)
versus $784,000 (15 cents per share) for the same quarter last year. For  fiscal
1992 earnings were $4.11 million (68 cents per share) as compared to  $2.73
million (52 cents per share) for the same period last year.
   "VMARK achieved continued success in 1992 highlighted by the completion of
its 16th consecutive quarter of sequential revenue and profit growth," said
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   "We enter 1993 with the satisfaction that the company has a solid financial
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   The company's distribution channels grew to more than 225 resellers
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   Through Dec. 31, 1992, the company had sold over 9,500 licenses representing
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   Sales of PI/open licenses - a product purchased by VMARK in the fourth
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From: LYNN@MD-MKW.Prime.COM (Lynn Charnitz - CV Services 797-8512, 414)
Subject: Hot Site
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:31:12 GMT

Dave,

Computervision Services offers 'Hot Site' Service for Prime 50 Series, Sun
and Solbourne systems.  This service provides a fully equipped computer
room for customer use for testing and disaster recovery.  There are three
hot site locations (Illinois, New Jersey and Colorado) with setups to
support a variety of requirements, ranging from dial-in access to
on-location terminal rooms for users.

Numerous accounts, both large and small, are covered by this service,
including at least two who have experienced an actual disaster and have
used the hot site for processing.

Please let me know where you are located and I can send you more
information on this hot site service, as well as other disaster recovery
services we provide, such as our Contingency Planning Service or Software
Tools to aid in Disaster Planning.

Regards,

Lynn Charnitz
Computervision Services - Brookfield, WI
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From: DAVE@prime.delta.edu
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:23:58 EST
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

Hi Yall...

  Does anyone out there know of a "Hot Site" for Prime (a place that we
could move our business to in case of catastrophy)? We are working on a
disaster plan, and it would be helpful to be able to include one of these,
as well as the cost per month to belong to it. If it was near Michigan, that
would be great! If it was near Mid-Michigan, that would be Wonderful!!!

Thx

Dave Kasper --- DAVE@prime.delta.edu

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From: DAVE@prime.delta.edu
Subject: Hot Site
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 11:23:58 GMT

Hi Yall...

  Does anyone out there know of a "Hot Site" for Prime (a place that we
could move our business to in case of catastrophy)? We are working on a
disaster plan, and it would be helpful to be able to include one of these,
as well as the cost per month to belong to it. If it was near Michigan, that
would be great! If it was near Mid-Michigan, that would be Wonderful!!!

Thx

Dave Kasper --- DAVE@prime.delta.edu

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From: greco@lclark.edu (Peter Greco)
Subject: Re: Hot Site
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:24:12 GMT

Greetings,

  I read with interest your response on Info-Prime to the query regarding
Hot Site provisions available thru Computervision.  Please send me
whatever info you can, especially related to pricing schemes.

Peter Greco
Director, Computing Services
Lewis & Clark College
615 SW Palatine Hill Road
Portland, OR 97219
(503) 768-7235        Internet: greco@lclark.edu

Thank you.
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