HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (daniel lance herrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Getting domain name (was RE: Local terminal emulation (for ble!system)
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:16:25 EST
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Distribution: na

In article <DF4PRB1w164w@railnet.nshore.ORG>, rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia) writes:
> nshore!usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu!PacBell.COM!ble!system (SysOp) writes:
>> ...  Regarding the bouncing mail, I am in the 
>> process of submitting my map. Do you know of the easiest/fastest/cheapest 
>> way to register a site name (e.g. ble.com)?
> 
> I was lazy - for my own site I submitted a uucp map, but for domain
> naming I piggy-back onto my feed's domain.  There's a document
> by Ann Westine floating about on the net that explains how to
> register a domain name - as I recall it doesn't cost anything.
> Check out the news.answers FAQ newsgroup - it might show up there
> from time to time.  If you don't find it, drop me a note - I believe
> I have an older version which I can mail to you.

By all means, do what Rick said.  Ann's document is a big help.  There
are a couple others.

Send mail to service@nic.ddn.mil with "help" in the body.  To register
a domain name yourself, takes no money but takes filling out a questionnaire
(Domain Template) that you can get from the mail server whose address
is above and e-mailing it to hostmaster@nic.ddn.mil, of course, one
of the things that goes on the questionnaire is two MX forwarders - you
have to get two sites that are actually on the internet to perform this
service for you.

dan
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: waffle and stacker ???
Summary: works fine
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 03:54:04 +1200
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

mallman@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Mark Allman) writes:

> In article <1992Sep30.152407.27863@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com>, vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca
> > are there any problems running stacker and waffle ?
> > 
> > does it matter if you 'stack' all the /waffle tree
> > or should you put users and file-section on a 'normal'
> > partition ?
> 
> i have been running v1.64 with all files on a stacker (v1.1) volume, with
> no problems.  i use waffle as a personal site, and so i dont have a files
> section, so i dont know if they can be stored on the stacked volume.  my
> guess is that they could be.  i am also assuming that 1.65 will work fine
> on stacker, as i have seen nothing to the contrary.  :-)
> 

I'm using Stacker v2.0 ( hardware version ), under DOS 5.0, with
waffle v1.65 ( and v1.64 before that ).

The files area stacks quite well, although there is nothing to be gained
from stac'ing compressed files.

The only major problem I have is memory. I have 6 stacker drives, and between
them, BNU and the extended and expanded memory drivers, I get rather pushed
for space ( 286 PC ).


dogbowl at The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)
dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz

Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: grant@bluemoon.rn.com (Grant DeLorean)
Subject: Re: Logging in again without logging out?
Organization: Blue Moon
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 16:18:17 GMT

jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:


>     I was interested in a way to have the LOGIN: prompt come back up, so
>I can log in again, without having to drop the connection. Basically, I'm
>considering setting up Waffle as a BBS (so far I'm a private site), and
>was hoping there was a way I could log in to an account set up for remote
>access, check for mail on my main (set "local only") account, make
>appropriate changes to that account and log in under it. I know, its a bit
>anal-retentive, but can it be done?

 Have you tried the login command?
-- 
\   Grant DeLorean  - IHMSA & NRA Life Member -  (grant@bluemoon.use.com)   /

   Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.  -- Euripides
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Found the Wafmail 1.00r bug
Date: Thu, 24 Sep 92 23:05:10 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

andyross@infopls.chi.il.us (Andrew Rossmann) writes:

>   With a hint from somebody, I found the problem with Wafmail 1.00r locking
> up. If a 'Date:' line does not include a timezone (GMT, EDT, etc..) Wafmail
> will barf.
>   First: Do the RFC's specify that a timezone must be included? What
> formats is the Date: line allowed?

Yes, the TIMEZONE field must be in there. Here's the pertinant section
from RFC-850 :

2.1.4  Date  The Date line (formerly   "Posted")   is  the
date,  in  a  format  that  must be acceptable both to the
ARPANET and to the getdate routine, that the  article  was
originally  posted  to  the  network.   This  date remains
unchanged as the  article  is  propagated  throughout  the
network.  One format that is acceptable to both is

     Weekday, DD-Mon-YY HH:MM:SS TIMEZONE

Several examples of  valid  dates  appear  in  the  sample
article above.  Note in particular that ctime format:

     Wdy Mon DD HH:MM:SS YYYY

is not acceptable because it is not a valid ARPANET  date.
However, since older software still generates this format,
news implementations are encouraged to accept this  format
and translate it into an acceptable format.

The contents of the TIMEZONE field is currently subject to
worldwide time zone  abbreviations,  including  the  usual
American  zones  (PST, PDT, MST, MDT, CST, CDT, EST, EDT),
the   other   North   American   zones   (Bering   through
Newfoundland),  European  zones,  Australian zones, and so
on.  Lacking a complete list at present (and unsure if  an
unambiguous   list   exists),   authors  of  software  are
encouraged to keep this code flexible, and  in  particular
not  to  assume  that  time  zone  names are exactly three
letters long.   Implementations  are  free  to  edit  this
field,  keeping  the  time the same, but changing the time
zone (with an appropriate adjustment  to  the  local  time
shown) to a known time zone.

>   Second: Anyone willing to write a program to traverse the entire news
> directories, looking for bad dates?? If no timezone is found, just stick
> something in there. Just a simple GMT will suffice. It'd also be a good
> idea to not have the date and time of the file modified. That will prevent
> problems with those of us (like me) who expire by time. (NOTE: If you edit
> a post by hand, be careful of the date/time if you expire by time.
> Temporarily change your date and time before modifying the file.)

Hmm.. exactally how/why does Wafmail choke on a missing timezone? Maybe
a fix can be made to the root of the problem vs. curing a symptom.

--
Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: 3 Oct 92 13:26:29 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
> 
> >Waffle and all other BBS programs should be robust enough to recover from
> >dropped carrier.  Sure, my modem recovers, but Waffle does not always do
> >so.  To say that I should rely upon my users to turn off their call-waiting
> >is a cop-out.  If Waffle cannot handle these situations reliably, then
> >there is a problem with Waffle.  Does anyone disagree with this?  Why?
> 
> After about 60,000 calls, I have never seen this happen.  I'm inclined
> to agree with some, that maybe the modem has a bug in the length of time
> DTR is being held low.

Recent circumstances lead me to believe this analysis may be correct.  My
system has been extremely flaky over the past 24 hours.  I came home from
work to discover that the modem would no longer respond to AT commands.
It would cycle DTR on command (using DTR.COM); only a power cycle corrected
this problem.

All last night I saw failed uucico startups.. but only if it were immediately
after an incoming uucico session.  If I polled out, the modem was "properly"
reset, and the next incoming session would work.  Most bizarre.  Here is a
/waffle/admin/uucico log of one of the failed sessions:

|
22:14:11.54 (0) WAFFLE UUCP 1.65 - Fri Oct 02 22:14:11 1992
22:14:11.59 (0) on willard (answering), debug level 9
22:14:11.59 (2) Incoming device 1 at 19200
22:14:11.59 (0) FOSSIL connection open
22:14:12.64 (5) toplevel state: i
22:14:13.68 (4) wmsg: Shere=willard
22:14:43.51 (5) rmsg sync got f 66
22:14:43.56 (5) rmsg sync got 
22:14:43.95 (0) Carrier lost
22:14:43.95 (5) toplevel state: k
22:14:44.33 (5) toplevel state: a
22:14:44.33 (0) - 0 connection(s) made -

Does this make sense to anyone?  Is my modem fried, or is something more
devious afoot?

-- 
dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: Multiple addresses
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 16:05:59 GMT

fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

>Where's the loop?  There are 3 addresses here - pur-ee!sankar,
>milton.u.washington.edu!jars, and hardy.u.washinction.edu!hyan .  Unless you
>have more knowledge of the network topology in Randall's area than he mentioned
>in his post, there's no loop here, just 3 pieces of mail which are following
>the same first 3 hops.

Don't you just LOVE sendmail?

-- 
  Bangapath!Bangapath!Bang!Bang!Bang!
From: olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz (Wayne Hoyle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: FILES ( . option )
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:06:01 GMT
Organization: Down on the farm

I have set up the Waffle System file DIRS to control navigation through
the FILES option ... the problem I am having is that with the . ( dot ) 
command I am able to jump into the root directory even though my DIRS 
file has a deny option on that level eg.

1  /dir="c:"               /deny
2  /dir="c:/abc"           /access=9
3  /dir="c:/def"           /access=9

I'm running 1.65
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From: mikey@slic.cts.com (Mike Shirley)
Newsgroups: sdnet.waffle,comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: COLORS!
Keywords: Colors
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 20:55:51 PDT
Organization: Muth Valley Seismic Control District, San Diego, CA / Port2

markr@sound.cts.com (Mark B. Reinhold) writes:

> > CHART FOR WAFFLE'S COLORS PARAMETER
> 
> Well, I just tested them and they work outstanding. 

So, which colors did you end up with?  Did you figure out a way
to do it without re-running Waffle?

--
     Mike, WB6WUI   //   INET:  mikey@slic.cts.com   //   GEnie: SLIC
From: rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: re: WafVote v1.02
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 21:50:44 EDT
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

I had tried out a prior version of WafVote, and removed it because
it seemed to summarize all votes as being 100% of the last vote
placed.

Did I have something configured incorrectly?  Or, if this was
a bug, is it now fixed?

--
UUCP: {uunet|backbone}!railnet!rad   rad@railnet.nshore.org
CompuServe: 72517.666@compuserve.COM
From: markr@sound.cts.com (Mark B. Reinhold)
Newsgroups: sdnet.waffle,comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: COLORS!
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 92 07:05:35 PDT
Organization: SDCT 1-619-461-3415

system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:
> CHART FOR WAFFLE'S COLORS PARAMETER

Thanks a lot, I now have to logoff and try it.

mark
From: cowan@aqua.ocunix.on.ca (Darin Cowan (root))
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Logging in again without logging out?
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:02:43 GMT
Organization: The Aquarium, Ottawa, Ontario

jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:

> 
>      I was interested in a way to have the LOGIN: prompt come back up, so
> I can log in again, without having to drop the connection. Basically, I'm
> considering setting up Waffle as a BBS (so far I'm a private site), and
> was hoping there was a way I could log in to an account set up for remote
> access, check for mail on my main (set "local only") account, make
> appropriate changes to that account and log in under it. I know, its a bit
> anal-retentive, but can it be done?

You could logon the first time and read the help for the "LOGIN"
command :-)

Waffle has that capability built in.
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Help! I need a copy of Waffle 1.65
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 08:51:54 EDT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Distribution: world
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text

psyline@psyline.nl (Theo Bogels) writes:

> cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens) writes:
> >         Read the FAQ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  Some people...  FTP to
> > halcyon.com.
>
> That's nice, Charles. But what if ftp is not possible?

He was responding to a posting where someone was asking where they could
FTP a copy of Waffle.  :-)
^^^
The question might have been, "That's nice, Charles.  But what if they
didn't have access to the FAQ and didn't know of its existance?"

+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
| Steve Frampton - frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca | Steve Frampton     |
| I collect postcards!  If you send me one from | 501-A Princess St. |
| your area, I'll send one in return.  Send to >| Kingston, Ontario  |
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+-----------------------------------------------+--------------------+
From: bilbo@burrow.cojones.com (Bill Beau)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: re: WafVote v1.02
Date: 4 Oct 92 22:55:31 GMT
Organization: The Burrow

rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia) writes:

> Did I have something configured incorrectly?  Or, if this was
> a bug, is it now fixed?

It works just fine....  Try the new version and let me know if you have
any problems with it.

Bilbo

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From: eoin@xocolatl.com (John Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Help on ALIASES
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 16:41:23 PDT
Reply-To: eoin@xocolatl.com (John Snyder)
Organization: Amethyst Systems, Fremont, CA

elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley) writes:

-> olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz (Wayne Hoyle) writes:
-> 
-> > I am having trouble using the alias pipe command ie trying to divert
-> > mail into a news group ... my aliases file looks something like this
-> > 
-> > abc | post arc.general
-> > 
-> > When I mail abc, it works fine the first time, storing the mail as 
-> > a news item under \arc\general
-> > 
-> > The problem arises when I try to mail abc again ... the mail just 
-> > disappears into thin air .... as if the alias has been lost ...
-> 
-> why not just switch to newsgroup arc.general and post as a news article, 
-> rather than sending local mail to the alias?  I know this sounds more 
-> like a workaround than a fix, but it ought to accomplish the same thing.

Wayne is referring to a similar problem I'm having.

When you gate a mailing list to a newsgroup, you usually set the /mod 
address to the ml central address.

~/usenet
list.abc   /mod=abc-mod

~/aliases
abc        | post list.abc
abc-mod    abc abc@central.address

The problem seems to be in the double aliasing.  I'm not even getting
to the point of getting the *first* message of login session.  My
messages get queued for transmission to the central address, but
*none* of the local messages are gate directly to the newsgroup like
they should.




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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: UDFB 1.0
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:09:27 GMT

In article <kBq5RB5w165w@micromed.com> system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:
|Funny how no one mentioned these scripts a month ago when several people
|were looking for such a utility.

Funny how someone recalls posting about their existince, mentioning that they
needed some cleanup before release, and how people should send him email if
they wanted him to finish up the cleanup.  Funny how the same someone recalls
getting no email.

Life's funny, isn't it?

  Bill
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: grant@bluemoon.rn.com (Grant DeLorean)
Subject: Re: Modem angst
Organization: Blue Moon
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 23:44:37 GMT

otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:

>Well, there are (unfortunately) two products from USRobotics called
>"dual standard" (what a silly name... why not call it "sexist" ?):
>* the older DS was a V.32 and HST (9600 b/s fdx and 14400 b/s hdx)
>* the newer DS is V.32bis and HST (14400 b/s fdx and hdx)

 The older ones are no longer available except through sales of used
equipment and possibly the refurb program. They are a moot point (though
I still have one sitting here). Both models you listed are old ones,
the current ones are 16800 HST and V.32bis. There is also a FAX option.

>I believe the V.32 in the earlier DS was made with a Rockwell plug-in module
>but the latter (which I currently have) definitely is all-DSP.  The earlier
>models had problems with the modules crawling out of their plugs.

 It depends on what motherboard revision, there were several motherboard
revisions (separate from ROM revisions) in the first DS modems...  The
"crawl out" was during shipping, not use. It was a simple fix, open the case
and re-seat the card.

>I don't know what the new small-footprint models are called, but there we
>would have chance to have yet another modem that could well be called DS:
>* V.32bis and new-HST (14400 b/s fdx and 16800 b/s hdx, upgradable to V.fast)

 The small ones are Sportsters, and the line is not new in the least bit.
-- 
\   Grant DeLorean  - IHMSA & NRA Life Member -  (grant@bluemoon.use.com)   /

   Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.  -- Euripides
From: olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz (Wayne Hoyle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: FILES ( Directory *.* option )
Date: 5 Oct 92 13:06:00 GMT
Organization: Down on the farm

When using the Directory *.* option in files , the display just scrolls
through from start to end ... 

Is it possible to control the display like dos dir /p would do ?

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   Wayne Hoyle, Wanganui, NZ     |  I wanted to join the Stargazing Society
 ( olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz )  |       but the subs were astronomical
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From: david@csource.oz.au (david nugent)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Multiple modems?
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 15:32:52 +1000
Reply-To: david@csource.oz.au
Organization: Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia

elrond@freeside.com (SysAdmin) writes:

> Waffle supports multiple line usage in MessyDOS via multiple
> static files etc.  It is accomplished by running multiple copies
> of Waffle under DESQview, Windows, or some other multi-tasker
> Read the DOCS in dos.doc I believe, they explain it rather well.

Hey, why not do it properly?  If you want to multitask, add another
processor, and throw the rest of the PC and a network card in for
good luck. :-)


> > If so, how many?
> 
> I think memory, and # of serial ports is going to be the first limit
> you run into here,

Basically unlimited.  Expensive, yes, but we've all got money to
burn, right?  :-)

Incidently, the two lines here share the same static file. Fortunately
both workstations use COM2, and neither system allows Waffle to do any
modem handling.


david

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PO Box 260, Endeavour Hills, Victoria, Australia, 3802.
From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Where to get waffle ?
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:23:54 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

sch@getafix (Simon Hamner) writes:

> Well the subject line says it all really. I want to run waffle on my '386
> since I hope to get my own feed soon. So can anyone tell me where to get
> waffle for PC's... and just to be awkward is there a version for windows
> now or soon ?
> 

You can get waffle via ftp from almost any of the archives: wuarchive,
simtel, garbo, etc. You can get it via anonymous uucp from halcyon.com,
and other sites. You can also get it from the author's home system,
darkside.com.

As to the 'version for windows,' a number of people are running the
dos version of waffle in minimized windows on 386 systems now, and
having good luck with it.

--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA
From: moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: WAFMAIL v2.00b6 upload bug??
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 11:44:47 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:

> I ended up disabling time limits because of this bug... Then, later, I just
> disabled uploads completely.  For some reason, all Wafmail uploads here end
> up getting offset by a group or two, so even though you post in, say,
> psu.flame, it might appear in psu.cs.general... not the greatest thing...


>ohmygod!<

Thanks for the info. Gota kill the upload feature!

<X>orcist

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From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:33:17 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

herrj@valnet.UUCP (Jonathan Herr) writes:

> A lot of this could be taken care of by setting your modem up
> correctly.  It should drop carrier a little more quickly if you are
> the one that has call-waiting.  If your users have call-waiting, then
> tell them in the sign-up that they need to put "*70," in the front of
> the dial-out string to turn off their call-waiting.

As I've already stated, my modem IS correctly configured.  This is NOT a
case of operator error.  Trust me.  I do not have call waiting, nor would
that make ANY sense whatsoever for a dedicated BBS line.

Waffle and all other BBS programs should be robust enough to recover from
dropped carrier.  Sure, my modem recovers, but Waffle does not always do
so.  To say that I should rely upon my users to turn off their call-waiting
is a cop-out.  If Waffle cannot handle these situations reliably, then
there is a problem with Waffle.  Does anyone disagree with this?  Why?

> 
> 
>     =      Jonathan Herr                                 herrj@valnet.UUCP
>   -   -    Wabash Valley Computing                                WVCF BBS
> =  WVC  =  Vincennes, Indiana, USA               Serving the Wabash Valley
>  -     -   +1 812 886-6109                        9pm - 7am   3/12/24  8N1
>     =


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Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814