HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Patrick_Dubbrow@ms.maus.de (Patrick Dubbrow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon DOES have Super-VGA
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:38:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: MS.A54449
Organization: MausNet (Mitglied im IN e.V.)
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14D/hb

ken@isgtec.com wrote:

K>There are however also higher resolutions in SuperVGA as well, which to my
K>great disappointment the Falcon can't do. :(

It does by using the OverScan Screenblaster (costs DM 149) which is an adaptor
to be plugged between the Falcon an the monitor.

Examples:
880*608, 61Hz
768*496, 72Hz
640*480, >80Hz

Regards

 Patrick
From: Peter_Missel@k.maus.de (Peter Missel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon Botched Board
Date: 21 Dec 92 21:28:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet (Mitglied im IN e.V.)
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14D/hb

l>There is alot of rumers flying around about the new Falcon having a botched
l>board.  I have also heard that Atari are holding back the Falcon longer now
l>since they saw what the A1200 could do graphically, and that they won't be
l>releasing it until they have caught up with the A1200's graphics
l>capabilities.
l>Can anyone throw some light onto this?

Here in Germany, Falcon 030 are sold for one week now. They are the same type
of machine that could be seen in Duesseldorf, except for TOS, which is 4.01
now.

- Peter -
From: herby@danubix.ulm.sub.org (Herbert Dampel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: world
Organization: Node Ulm/Donau/IN
Subject: Re: Kosten
Keywords: Kosten - how to use it
Reply-To: herby@ul.open.de
X-Software: HERMES GUS 1.04 Rev. Sep  5 1992
Date: Sun, 03 Jan 1993 11:43:34 MET

In <H.XtJiOXaBwjo@zebedee.uucp>, Geoffrey Coan writes:
  >Does anyone know how to use the kosten program posted with Hermes, or
  >what it does ?

Forget it, it's only usefull in good old germany.

  >TARIFZONEN: <Sek. zum Billigtarif> <Sek. im Normaltarif> 

Add 'TARIFZONEN: seconds for one cost unit' as first line of uucico and 
it will work. Nevertheless it's only calculating with german 0.23 DM.

Better use cicolog, it's configurable on other fees than german 0.23 DM

cu l8ter mfG herby@danubix.ulm.sub.org
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: wayne@bragg.bio.purdue.edu (Wayne Twitchell)
Subject: file transfers
Reply-To: wayne@bragg.bio.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University, Dept. of Biological Sciences
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 21:04:05 GMT

Hello to all,
	Our lab needs to transfer files from Atari ST
(STe) machines to Mac II ci.  The files are large and 
are on 44MB syquest drives (250 -300 MB worth of info), 
so using DOS formatted 720 K floppies is NOT AN OPTION.
We can take care of converting the data files to a format 
usable on the Mac, the $64 question is how to port the data
from the Atari to the Mac.
	So far we see two options.
1) Direct serial transfer via a lan or a null modem on the 
Atari and the serial port on the Mac.  For this we need and 
information on modems and where to get terminal SW for the 
Atari (preferably PD).  

2) Create a DOS partition on the Syquest (any hints?) and 
writing the data to that partition.  The data could then be
retrieved by a Mac using Raccess PCS once a Syquest is 
converted over to use for the Mac.  The question here is,
can TOS recognize the Syquest partition and write to it?

If anyone out there has any ideas, information 
(or better yet) practical experience with this sort of an 
operation please E-MAIL me (wayne@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu).  

Thanks in advance
Wayne
(wayne@bilbo.bio.purdue.edu)
From: ce830@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ron Field)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: For Sale Tos 1.04
Date: 30 Dec 1992 00:51:33 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I have a set of Tos 1.04 chips for sale at $40.00 .
This is the 6 chip kind NOT the 2 chip.
They are marked with the U numbers 2-7 so easy to install.
I also have a Beetle mouse for sale Make a offer on the Mouse.
-- 
Ron Field ce830@cleveland.freenet.edu (or) ron@mchome.santa-cruz.
ca.us  514 Margaret Av Aptos Ca 95003  (408)688-1508
Waiting for a Falcon
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,news.answers
From: mppi76@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Schoenfeld)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: The Eagle has landed
Date: 29 Dec 1992 17:21:38 +0100
Organization: Regionales Rechenzentrum Erlangen
NNTP-Posting-Host: cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de
Keywords: FALCON

Mark Kovarski <kovarski@zooid.guild.org> writes:

>mppi76@cd4680fs.rrze.uni-erlangen.de (Harald Schoenfeld) writes:
>>The first hard disk recording program was written in about 1 or 
>>2 hours and works perfectly with 50kHz 16Bit stereo. So forget all
>>the PC SoundCards (with 25kHz that are only 6kHz in reality - as
>>revealed by the German magazin ct last week :-) )

>What do you mean? Gravis Ultrasound, PAS-16, and the TB Multisound are all
>16-Bit/44.1 Khz cards. No 25 KHz, no 6 KHz. For your information, TB uses
>the DSP 56001. Your statement is more than misleading unless you can
>prove that the cards mentioned above are not 16-Bit with 44.1 Khz capabilties.

>Mark K.

One of the best selling Soundcards on PC are the SoundBlaster 3 and 4.
Both claim to be able of doing samples with 25kHz or more - that does
not matter. Fact is:

SoundBlaster 3 cuts of frequencies at about 6kHz (at least they are
down 10 db!). SoundBlaster 4 does the same at about 10 kHz.
They may need as much RAM for their samples as for 44.1kHz, but they sound like 
using only 6kHz. 

I'm only quoting c't. This sould be a good source for information. 

Certainly there are also some good cards, like the one for about DM 1500
using a DSP and M68000. The problem is: It is as expensive as the
whole FALCON :-)

The cheap cards are also not able to do harddisk recording and I don't
think they have DMA access to the RAM, to a DSP and so on. And you
won't find build-in DOS routines for using theses cards easyly.

-- 
Harald Schoenfeld (hs@cnve.rrze.uni-erlangen.dbp.de)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jkrakover@sma2.rain.com (jonathan)
Subject: ST & other equiptment FOR SALE
Organization: Guns for Peace
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 17:17:29 GMT

This is a repost of what is left to sell from my previous post.
NOTE: For those of you who have send me mail and I haven't gotten back
to you, it's because my access to internet is through a 486 simulating
UNIX (It does a horrible job).  Sometimes mail will go through, sometimes
it won't, but I have tried to return every letter about 3 times.  If there
was an item listed that you wanted but is not in this following list then
it has been sold to someone that called via phone.  Sorry


STILL FOR SALE:

Spectre CGR with 128K ROMS-----------$240/OBO
Atari SM124 mono monitor-------------$80/OBO
Sysdyne color monitor----------------$150/OBO


If interested, please CALL, or send a message with your phone number.
Thanks,
Jonathan
503-666-8568

If interested, please call 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: gjschmid@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Greg Schmidt)
Subject: Atari 8-bit emulator
Keywords: help me get it to work
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:28:41 GMT

I just went through >600 articles, but this wasn't mentioned anywhere, so...

Quite a while back, I picked up an Atari 8-bit emulator for my brother's
1040ST.  I believe the name was STXF255, but I could be wrong.  It seems
to have an option to run programmes off of a ramdisk, but we have not
been able to get this to work, despite trying about 4 different ramdisks
(everything I could find on atari.archive.umich.edu at the time).  Is there
anyone out there who is using this successfully?  If so, what ramdisk are
you using (and where can I FTP it from), and what steps do I have to take
to get everything smoothed out?

Please reply by email, as I don't normally read this group.
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From: grahamt@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Graham Thomas)
Subject: Re: SLM804 Troubles--------H E L P
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 18:51:45 GMT

From article <1992Dec29.224149.2525@sma2.rain.com>, by jkrakover@sma2.rain.com (jonathan):
> P L E A S E   H E L P.......
> 
> Just yesterday, for no reason, my SLM804 Laser Printer decided to print
> shadows to the left of everything.  A straight line down the page looks
> like two lines about 1/2mm apart with the left one being very inconsistant.

A friend of mine had a similar problem, which we cured by switching the
order of components connectd along the DMA chain - he originally had
ST-hard disks-SLM804 controller, and the problem disappeared when we
switched it to ST-SLM804-hard disks.  (Or it might have been the other
way round - can't remember, and from my experience with such setups
there's no logic to it.)

No guarantees, but maybe worth a try if all else fails.

Graham
From: ron@zooid.guild.org (Secret Mud)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: *I* an NOT making THIS up either...
Date: 28 Dec 92 18:49:13 GMT

From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
>
> ...
>  Unfortunately, this sort of thing isn't unusual at all; it's very
>routine treatment for Atari developers.
>
>- Charles

Those experiences with L______ jib with the stories from the former Batteries
Included people that I work with.

 - Ron Sharp.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: bill@mwca.UUCP (Bill Sheppard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Email... Internet > GEnie .. how?
Date: 21 Dec 92 19:14:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Santa Clara, Ca.

In <18DEC199210272966@robots> abjod@robots (Jim O'Donnell) writes:

>   I use GEnie for Atari-related stuff, and CIS for e-mail (though I do 
>most of that from work, now) and Eaasy Sabre (airline and other travel 
>reservations). GEnie offers access to Eaasy Sabre as well, but the last 
>time I checked they charged connect time for it, while CIS did not. 
>Does anyone know if this has changed?

Since going to their "flat-rate" plan GEnie has never charged for Eaasy Sabre
(it may appear they are charging due to the dual-door number system GEnie
uses, but once you enter Sabre itself you'll not be charged).

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From: mal5781@tamuts.tamu.edu (Mark Lehmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: MiNT Distribution Kit
Date: 28 Dec 1992 19:41:50 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tamuts.tamu.edu
Summary: Has anyone gotten the MiNT Distribution Kit to work?
Keywords: MiNT, GCC, KSH, TCSH, SH, Distribution Kit

I was delighted to see the MiNT distribution kit on the Atari archive.
I download all the zoo'ed disks.  I read all of the installation documentation.

However, when I try to use the SETUP.PRG program, it fails with 2 bombs.
I have been careful to clean out my AUTO folder and turn off every single
accesory.  I am aware that AUTO programs and accessories cannot be used
with MiNT.  After I have done all of that work, I still cannot get the 
program to work.

Here is the advice I need:

   I have TOS 1.00 and 2.5 Mbytes of memory (will be 4.0 Mbytes in a few
hours).  I have an ICD cotroller for a 127Mbyte Quatum embedded SCSI drive 
and a 65Mbyte Control-Data RLL (Adapter Controller) drive.  IS MiNT or the
installation supposed to work with this setup?

   What should I do to manually install the kit?  How do I get the atari
to the point where I can use the MINIX file system for my partition F: and
install the software with a UNIX style user name?

   Any and all help will be appreciated.  I wrote the TeX installation manual
two years ago (everyone seemed to like it but CS-TeX's ease of use killed
the desire to manually install TeX), and I would not mind writing some 
type of professional looking document to go along with manually installing
this kit.  The best thing would be to have a working SETUP.PRG program for
all versios of TOS and the ICD device driver.
Mark Lehmann
tamuts.tamu.edu!mal5781
From: eker@loria.fr (Steven Eker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Apology:  True Colour *IS* great for games.
Date: 24 Dec 92 15:51:38 GMT
Organization: CRIN (CNRS) Nancy - INRIA Lorraine

In article <1992Dec24.053556.20186@leland.Stanford.EDU>, geomorph@leland.Stanford.EDU (Bayard Wenzel) writes:
|> Another nifty thing about TRUE COLOR Mode is that when writing complex computer
|> generated screens in real time, like the 3D projections of a flight sim., you
|> do not have to go through all the palette registers to find the closest RGB
|> match to the color you want to display. This looking up can take a lot of time,

Not if you choose the positions of your colours in the palette to work for you
rather than against you - with smart allocation scheme it can be faster.

|> specially when the comp. gen.'d screen has many colors, i.e. gouraud shaded
|> polygons (now some people qill say "Wait a minute! You can't generate g. shaded
|> polygons in real time! can you?" well think again. Simple gouraud shading is
|> not too time consuming.

The good thing about true color is that it is 1word/pixel layout in memory
rather than interleaved bit planes. Thus you can set the colour of a pixel
with 1 access rather than 16. With flat shading this isn't so important since you
can write 16 consectutive pixels with the same colour. With gouraud shading the
value of each pixel is calculated individually and it makes a big difference.

256 colour palette with 1byte/pixel would be much faster for shading and texture
mapping but unfortunately 256 color modes use interleaved bit planes on the
falcon.

It _might_ be possible to do real time gouraud shading and even texture mapping
in true color mode if the bus is fast/smart enough.

|> especially with a DSP. Look at the latest flight sims
|> for the PC line for some impressive example of this. And those things have slow
|> buses too!). What this all means is that TRUE COLOR Mode will not only look
|> better but it may also perform faster than 256 color mode when using this kind
|> of graphics!

The DSP<->main memory bus is unlikely to be fast enough for the DSP to do shading.
The trick is to have the DSP do all the 3D/lighting calculations/facet
sorting/clipping at polygon level so that the 68030 can spend ~90% of its
time rendering polygons
- ideally with a tight (<=128 byte) inner loop so that it gets most of its
instructions from cache to avoid bus contention.

Suppose 6byte/vertex (16bit x, y, color) and average of 6 vertices/polygon.
At 30fps with say 500 polygons on screen we need ~540K/s DSP->main memory.
Assuming the world is stored in DSP RAM the main memory->DSP transfers will
only contain position updates for moving objects. Just about doable...
but only just.

Its the speed of the 68030 and the 68030<->main memory bandwidth that worries me.
Even with the best algorithms and coding tricks I doubt you can render even a
small gouraud polygon in ~300 instructions... but maybe its possible to find
a neat way of preprocessing the polygon on the DSP (eg y-sorting verticies,
precomputing Bresenham increments for each edge) to speed things up; or do
something clever with the blitter.

Steven
From: Dave_Ninjajr_Flory@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: STReport???
Date: Sun,  3 Jan 93 15:00:46 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <H.eg.wgo5n4n7hdk@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca>

>>If this was sent to all attendees of
>>the Atari roundtable, this means the letter was tacitly approved by
>>Darlah, the roundtable sysop, as that is the only way the author could
>>get this dropped in every attendees mailbox.

The letter was uploaded and released in the library area where anyone who
wanted to could download it. 
 
The following was posted in the Atari RT by Darlah:
 
Atari-ST RoundTable
Category : 24, STReport International Online Magazine
Topic    : 3, STReport - Letters to the Editor      
Message  : 96, left on January 2, 1993 at 11:28 EST 
From     : DARLAH [RT~SYSOP]

Jon:
  Do me a favor (no internet connection here) and let the good folks know
that we don't agree or disagree with everything in our library. If we
did, that would mean that we sanction each and every article in the online
magazines. What we do offer is the freedom of speech.  We do take great
strides in making sure our files work and are virus free as well as not
crossing over any legal lines. We do try. :-) 

Personally, they appear NOT to have the entire thread to make an accurate
judgement. That is too bad.  They really need to get online or obtain the
ENTIRE thread to make any conclusions. Unfortunately the lack of such
doesn't seem to stop some people.  Flags are given to people to give
online support. 

I was the very 1st person to obtain such for GEnie and to make GE aware of
the benefits.  It is a successful project. It is obvious they have
absolutely no idea what they are talking about in this regard.  Atari
doesn't run this RT, I do. I make all final decisions. I don't play games
and base my decisions on personal feelings. I actually have better things
to do than invest my time in those sort of games. I wish everyone did.

----------
From: michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Re: DSPs (New use of....)
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:28:04 GMT

Original to: rossin@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM
In a message of <10 Dec 92 07:13:19>, rossin@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (3:713/602)
writes:

 r> How are you going to keep a reasonable working set in a tiny piece of
 r> RAM like 96K?  When we run Verilog on our workstations we need to have
196
 r> Meg of RAM to do a chip. 

By streaming it in and out of course, dopey. 8)

Motorola's DSP's don't have very large address spaces - my assumption is
that they visiualise them as stream, rather than block, oriented devices.

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From: Patrick_Dubbrow@ms.maus.de (Patrick Dubbrow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcon DOES have Super-VGA
Date: 27 Dec 92 21:36:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: MS.A54650
Organization: MausNet (Mitglied im IN e.V.)
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.14D/hb

ken@isgtec.com wrote about the Overscan Screenblaster:

K>Thanks for the tip. Can you give some info on how this adaptor works? Will
K>software properly recognize the higher rez? (I guess this means a VDI driver
K>that only well-written GEM programs can use?)

Screenblaster does not need any kind of driver. Every well written GEM-software
will profit by the increase of resolution!

Regards

 Patrick
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: KnifeST
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (steve wells)
Date: 29 Dec 1992 18:59:19 GMT
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

The ST-Format January Issue has that on it's cover disk.

Knowing ST-Format, it will be Knife-ST version 1.0

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 |  o     I wouldn't have time to eat it.    Zaphod B.     |       ||| TARI  |
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From: jkrakover@sma2.rain.com (jonathan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: SLM804 Troubles--------H E L P
Date: 29 Dec 92 22:41:49 GMT
Organization: Guns for Peace

P L E A S E   H E L P.......

Just yesterday, for no reason, my SLM804 Laser Printer decided to print
shadows to the left of everything.  A straight line down the page looks
like two lines about 1/2mm apart with the left one being very inconsistant.
It happens regardless of whats being printed or where its located on the 
page, a very sloppy, ionconsistant, smuge of a shadow to the left of every-
thing.
Please respond with any advise you might have,
Thanks,
Jonathan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: plucky@ais.org (Chris Adamson)
Subject: Spectre GCR (Mac+ emulator) vs. Mac MS-Word 5.1???
Organization: UMCC
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 22:01:53 GMT

[Apologies for massive cross-post -- I'm at wits end!]

	I'm looking for info from anyone who really knows MS-Word
for the Mac or the Spectre Mac-Plus emulator for the Atari ST.

	I have an Atari ST (yeah, I know...) running a Mac-Plus
emulator called a Spectre GCR, with 4MB of memory (about 3.8 in Mac
mode), 60MB of hard-drive space in the Mac partition, System 6.0.8,
and an 800K floppy drive.

	Microsoft Word 5.1 for the Mac, which I purchased at an
attractive academic price, requires the following:
	* Mac Plus or greater (check -- as far as any program knows)
	* Hard drive and one 800K drive (check)
	* One MB or more memory, two for grammar or Sys7 (check)
	* Apple System 6.0.2 or later, Finder 6.1 or later (check)

	Well, I just tried to install my academically-priced Word 5.1
and the Installer tells me I don't meet the requirements for
installing Word 5.1.  Neither "Easy Install" nor "Customize" is
available.  What really ticks me off is that I installed and
then deleted an original 5.0 from the Mac Lab I work in at Michigan
State just to be sure it would work, and the 5.0 installation went
just fine!

	You know what'll happen when I call Microsoft's help line --
I'll listen to their deejay for 15 minutes and then be told it's the
fault of the unsupported emulator.  I'd almost rather pirate 5.0 instead.

	So, I'm asking two packs of newsgroup readers two questions:
	* COMP.SYS.MAC & c.s.m.APPS READERS: Does anyone know what
Microsoft changed between versions 5.0 and 5.1 that could be tripping
me up here?
	* COMP.SYS.ATARI.ST READERS:  Are there any Spectre users out
there using MS-Word 5.1 successfully?  How did you do it?

	I guess I'd also like any Atari/Spectre users out there who
have their Spectre manuals handy (I'm away from home, so I don't) what
the Gadgets By Small e-mail address is.  I could call or fax tomorrow,
but I'm not entirely sure they're even in business anymore!
	
	Thanks in advance for any and all help!

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