HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: British men
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:39:27 GMT
	<dp7p9bk@lynx.unm.edu> <1992Nov3.060224.25602@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
	<MARTINC.92Nov4111530@grover.cs.unc.edu> <25750@sybase.sybase.com>
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Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: mysti@sybase.com's message of 12 Nov 92 00:10:46 GMT

In article <25750@sybase.sybase.com> mysti@sybase.com (Mysti) writes:

   In article <MARTINC.92Nov4111530@grover.cs.unc.edu> martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
   >
   >Yes, but you can't reason from "there may exist less logical reasons" to
   >"those less logical reasons are the -real- motivation".  That appears to
   >be what Faludi does, however; in fact, it seems to be the central method
   >of reasoning in _Backlash_.  But it just doesn't stand up logically.  

   >subconscious or unstated evil motive.

   But Faludi is very careful to assemble a wide range of evidence, dating
   from a decade or two before the turn of the century until now to back
   up what she is saying.  The most lurid example is that of the alleged
   "male shortage" which many people may remember.  

A wide range of evidence for what?  That there are things she describes
that seem anti-feminist.  But by selecting her evidence carefully she
finds that there is a lot of stuff that seems anti-feminist, some of
which has been specifically refuted by the original authors, other parts
in the press since then.  She then concludes that a subconscious motive
of suppressing women must be the cause.

It might do you some good to read up on some of the feminist critques
*of* Faludi.  I think Camille Paglia has written one, and there were
several others.

   >It leads to the sort of thing where -any- disagreement can be
   >ascribed to a subconscious or unstated evil motive.

   No, neither Faludi nor anyone else I've heard of goes to that extreme.
   Did you have a particular instance in mind? 

Sure -- there's a discussion of "feminist logic" going on in sci.logic
and sci.philosophy.meta.  Underlying it is the idea that any attempt to
use reasoning based in "men's logic" is inherently oppressive, *and*
meant to oppress.  Andrea Dworkin's "philosophical" work is often a good
source.
--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: it's not my fault.
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:31:23 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science


You know what to do with this :->

In article <1992Nov13.150933.8397@cbnews.cb.att.com>
eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (piglet) writes:
>In article <MARTINC.92Nov12151225@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
>>Silly ass postnews program.  My careful explanation that I was reposting
>>this anonymously to protect the ... innocent ... disappeared.

>>   _I_ think it was the two boyfriends you had visiting who kept you
>>   awake.
>>
>>   <Anonymous>

>And, hey!!  Don't go talking about my houseguests like that!!  Only
>_one_ of them was my boyfriend.  Nyah!!

No, both of them _were_ your boyfriend.  One of them still _was_.

>Piglet, snitting.....and considering threatening to expose identities
>        if "Anonymous" doesn't watch hir step.....nyah!

<Anonymous>, carefully continuing to make trouble.


--
		Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu
     Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
	    3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
     "Oh God, please help me be civil in tongue, pure in thought, and able
      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
Xref: sparky soc.singles:30740 ba.singles:2183
From: rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
Subject: Re: YKYBRNTLW.... (Re: Where to meet women?)
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 11:33:21 -0700
Reply-To: wildrose!rkf@infoserv.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Wild Rose Refugee Camp

diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
>
>We ProblemOlderWomen can only get the title
>when we want sex MORE than our ProblemYoungerMen...

That's why there are so many older women and so few ProblemOlderWomen :-)  
...well ok, maybe :-( applies too!

-- 
-- Ray

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: ISO MY PRINCESS
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:52:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.233604.22675@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cjp8b@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Chris Penington) writes:
>                                         Platypuses are shy but much
>more mobile than echidna's. Their first response to unfamiliar threats
>is avoidance, but when cornered they do have a secret weapon: a
>poisonous spur on each hind leg. I don't care to draw an analogy to
>human behavior here!

It should be noted that only the *male* platypus has the poisonous spurs.
He appears to use them not for defense against predators but instead for
fighting with other males for access to females.

>Now what I'm waitng for is a posting by a wombat (that thing in my
>sig)! After all, they are the brainiest of the marsupials, and if
>Sandra's and Diana's cats can post....

And marsupials are *not* second-class mammals!

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: markr@mot.com (Mark)
Subject: Re: Question: How to increase the male sex drive ?
Reply-To: markr@mcil.comm.mot.com
Organization: MCIL
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 12:30:18 GMT

In article <15585@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <74522@apple.apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>|
>|>Seriously, though, I fid that
>|>sex drive is substantially increased by regular weightlifting, though it
>|>is actually somewhat decreased by extended bicycling.  This suggests to me
>|>that high-intensity exercise that doesn't cut off the circulation to your
>|>genitalia for extended periods of time is probably ideal.
>|
>|I understand that extensive aerobic exercise in general (not just the 
>|circulation-limiting kind) decreases sex drive.
> 
>Couldn't sex be considered an aerobic exercise?

Definitely, I've been following the conventional wisdom of 'the Net'
which says that to increase my sex drive, I just gotta keep at it.
Well, after spending many hours each day for the past week at 'it',
the advice seems to be working very well. (We've been at it about
3-4 times a day since last Saturday night)

Don't ask me how it feels to be sore all the time, everywhere.

Mark (who started this whole sex drive conversation after being
      celibate for a number of years and who has had more sex in
      the last week than in all the previous 28 years)
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Kiran and his sweetie
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:00:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:

>To Kiran and his sweetie (you know who you are):

>If you don't stop being cute and happy and *gushing* in public (especially
>being cute and happy and gushing and *COY*) , then proper measures will 
>have to be taken.

Now, now. There has to be *one* Soc.Singles.Cute.Couple, and
W and M  appear to have vacated the premises a while ago.

--
Stef                 The truth will set you free,
stef@apple.com       but first it will piss you off for a while.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:48:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov15.204331.17994@bnlux1.bnl.gov> schroede@bnlux1.bnl.gov (gary l. schroeder) writes:
>        Wearing a tie dosen't necessarily make you a ... oh MY
>GOD!..."conformist"!

Haven't there been studies showing that habitual necktie wearing reduces the
flow of blood to the brain?  I've always wondered what's wrong with so many
managers.

(There's a family legend that my great-great-great grandfather escaped from
England just ahead of a charge for sheep stealing.  Anything wrapped around
my neck makes me very uncomfortable.)

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.fandom.cons,rec.arts.sf.fandom
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:20:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.111201.10895@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:

>Gads, sleeping at night?  Arriving at work in the morning?  Staying all
>day whether you feel like it or not?  It's so easy to forget that there
>are people out there who have to put up with this sort of thing.  Well,
>you've got my sympathies--I can imagine putting up with conditions like
>that for a few days, but as a lifestile choice?  <shudder>

Well, I tried founding a company; it lasted long enough to go public,
but sort of fizzled after that.  Therefore, I have to work for a
living.

Of course, there was the 10-figure mistake I made in college.  (I told
a friend that I wasn't interested in helping write a compiler for a
brain-dead language on a toy computer.)

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: MICH <MICH@UNB.CA>
Subject: Re: Top 9 things...
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:21:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.211701.9713@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:
>In article <Nov.17.13.40.03.1992.27111@romulus.rutgers.edu> nehs@romulus.rutgers.edu (-Killer Klondike-) writes:
>>Top 9 things a man doesn't want to hear from a woman he's interested in...
>>Compiled from several different sources, my thanks to each and every one of
>>them.
>>
>>9. Sorry, I only like to date guys who like to beat the sh*t out of me and
>>     treat me like dirt.
>>
>>8. Sorry, I already have a boyfriend.
>>
>>7. Oh, he's just like a brother to me.
>>
>>6. Oh, HIM, he's just a friend.
>>
>>5. Why?
>>
>>4. No.
>>
>>3. I don't know.
>>
>>2. You are such a nice guyt.
>>
>>1. I just want to be friends.
>
> "Maybe, when I feel like I know you well enough"
>
How about these winners:

  "Can I get back to you about that later?"

  "I need to think about it."

  "Actually, Friday is not good."

  "Saturday isn't either."

  "I'm kind of busy with work right now."


 Jamie Mitchell


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu ("Broward "I don't Belong" Horne")
Subject:      RE:  I remember 1980
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 15:47:53 MST
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From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: Do you remember 1970 to 1980?
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 03:02:43 GMT



>The most traumatic incident in my life was in 1977 when my father tried
>to choke me to death because he freaked out on a fucked up prescription.

        Was it generic?
From: brentaa@ac.dal.ca (brent, eh?)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Question: How to increase the male sex drive ?
Date: 19 Nov 92 19:33:00 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Nov17.155847.29133@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>, markr@mot.com (Mark) writes:
> On a serious note, I have a couple of questions to pose to the net about what
> can affect a male's sex drive.  Basically, I am about 29 (male), have been
> SO-less for the last 4 years (by choice), and have recently met an incredible
> woman (about 31) with, to put it lightly, a very high sex drive.  My sex drive
> has reduced markedly over the past 4 years, and I would like to do what I can
> to increase it.  Question, is there any particular diet that is recommended ?
> Is exercise particularly recommended ?  Anything else ?
> 
> Thanks,
> Mark

There is one sure fire method that has always worked for me (whether I wanted
it too or not)
The more you do it, the more you want it...
So just go for it, and it always helps if you can think of a few variations
to keep it "interesting"....
It might take a while if you've been out of practice, but you know what they
say, practice makes perfect!
					-Brontosaur needs lots of practice..;-)
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:57:36 EST
From: Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
 <1992Nov20.003200.20957@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>

It isn't so much control freaks, as wether they have the standard
Protestant 'one flesh' marriage model (please hold still while we
squish you into a single entity) or wether they have the slowly
developing 'parrallel courses' relationship model that makes the
partnership chiefly emotional and secondarily economic.

This is an axioms issue, unfortunately.

Graydon
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jennings@tran.fishkill.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 15:13:42 GMT
Reply-To: jennings@tran.fishkill.ibm.com ()
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

In article <98436@netnews.upenn.edu>, crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren
L. Crawford) writes:
> 
> For what it's worth, I've seen adorable men in ties and suits, and
> adorable men in sweatshirts and jeans.  I haven't seen an adorable man in
> a Cure T-shirt yet, though.
> 
> 
> -- 
> The trick of reason is to get the imagination to seize the actual world --
> if only from time to time.     -- Annie Dillard, "An American Childhood"
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu

Lauren, what kind of crack is that????? I wear a suit and tie to work,
sometimes sweatshirts and jeans after, and yes, sometimes my cure
t-shirts. The Cure draws a wide range of fans, from various walks of
life. They are a great band, as are a lot of alternative groups. Keep an
open mind!!!!!		

bill the cat.......
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ron@turing.toronto.edu (Ron Wessels)
Subject: Re: What do you Am men think about Am wome
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:27:11 GMT

huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes about average copulation times
in various animals.

This thread reminds me of a TV commercial I saw recently:

[ Overhead view of man & woman in bed, sheet covering chest and below.
Man is just rolling off of the woman.  Woman has expectant look, then
surprised look, then angry/frustrated look as man rolls over and assumes
sleeping position. ]

Female Voice: Now, there's a home pregnancy test that takes as long for
the results as it can take for the act itself.

[ Woman's angry/frustrated look turns into a resigned look as man starts
snoring. ]

Text: Results in 3 minutes.

-- 
Ron Wessels		University of Toronto		ron@turing.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: marcia@netcom.com (Marcia)
Subject: Re: Money and the Single World (was: Education and the Single World
Organization: The Dolphin Conspiracy, Phase II
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:37:25 GMT

In article <5748@jptcs.COM> tps@jptcs.com writes:
>Well, marriage is a partnership. If you did something like that in business,
>you would not be a partner anymore! 

Unless, of course, you'd discussed it with your partner ahead of time, and
s/he said it was perfectly all right with him/her.

Marriage is no more and no less that what the two people involved want it to 
be. You seem to have pretty strong ideas of what you are looking for in a
marriage, and I hope you find a partner who shares those ideas. Other people
have their own definitions, and need to follow those to be happy.
-- 
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Marcia Bednarcyk                                  ADDRESSES: marcia@netcom.com
"Sweaty Snugglebunnies."                                     mlb@cisco.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com (Chris Hudson)
Subject: Re: Do you remember 1970 to 1980?
Reply-To: rock@medch.b17b.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:03:16 GMT

In article <7149@news.duke.edu>, diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:
|> In article <MARTINC.92Nov18222158@hatteras.cs.unc.edu> martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin) writes:
|> >
|> >How are we supposed to take you seriously when you were born after the
|> >Beatles broke up?
|> 
|> Who?
|> 

Aren't the Beatles the band Paul McCartney was in before Wings?  :-7

Chris Hudson
-- 
Save the Sharks!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 Eternal nothingness is ok if you're dressed for it   
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: mmwang@adobe.com (Michael Wang)
Subject: Re: nkill
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:59:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.222507.26632@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>In article <1992Nov17.021554.28446@adobe.com> mmwang@adobe.com
>(Michael Wang) writes:
>>Suppose we have the following situation. In 1990, employee A who is
>>female, is not given promotion, which is instead given to employee B,
>>a male who was much less qualified than A. Despite this clear-case of
>>sex discrimination, A stays with the company. In 1992, the same
>>position becomes available again. However, this time, employee C, a
>>male who is much more qualified than A is also in the running for the
>>promotion. Should A be granted preferential treatment and be given the
>>promotion over C (who is better qualified) because of the
>>discrimination against her in the past?
>
>A can be compensated by the company for the discrimination.  Why
>should C suffer because somebody else discriminated?
>
>More importantly, suppose they now grant the preferential treatment to
>A.  C has now been a victim of discrimination; in 1994, the position
>opens up again and now D is more qualified.  Should C get it anyway?
>When does this end?

But what if A really wants the promotion because of the new and
interesting challenges that it presents, etc., etc? Suing for monetary
compensation only would not give her the job that she wants. Without
the promotion, she may never be able to climb further up the corporate
ladder. Also, is it simply enough to use money to redress past
discrimination considering the fact that it is often very difficult to
prove?

-- 
Michael Wang
mmwang@mv.us.adobe.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rfs@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (richard.f.j.soyack)
Subject: Re: Encounter on a bus
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:01:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.195944.11524@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
>In article <1992Nov22.194029.5006@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, rfs@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (richard.f.j.soyack) writes:
>> I don't know what made me think of it, but 25 years ago I
>> picked-up a girl on a New York City bus (it was the first time
>> I did this).  Maybe sitting here on a rainy Sunday made my
>> mind go back 
>
>Perhaps it was senility...:)
>

Perhaps

Have fun,
Rich Soyack
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (dreas)
Subject: Re: What is attractive to women?
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 22:41:07 GMT

In article 92Nov22123125@candidus.ma30.bull.com, drg@candidus.ma30.bull.com (Daniel R. Guilderson) writes:
>In article <1992Nov22.151315.4882@wetware.com> diana@wetware.com (CatWoman ) writes:
>
>   ] >all "Robert"s liked to be called "Bob"
>
>   ] consensus has decreed that all Elizabeths be called 'Liz'.  
>
>   [all Dianas]
>   getting called "Princess Di"
>
>All Ezekials are called "Zeke"
>All Philips are called "Phil the pill"
>All Patricias are called "Patty cakes" or "Peppermint Patty"
>
>All Daniels are called one of these
>"Dan the man"
>"Book 'em Danno"
>"Oh Danny boy the pipes are ..."


Oh no! You think you got it bad?
I get called things like "Raggedy" Andy, "Randy" Andy, "Handy" Andy, and 
Andy "Panda." When my legal name's in print, "Is there more than one 
'Andrea' here today?"
                                        /      ^
A couple of years ago, somebody said, "He, 'dreas, Comment ca va?" 
[too bad this keyboard isn't rigged for French. :+(]       S
                                                           
He sympathized with me because his name was "Marie-Louis."

dreas

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Re: Description of the Fetal Remains from an Abortion
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:00:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Nov21.183937.8835@ncsu.edu> dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:

>BTW, here's my new .signature, how do you like it?

If you send out that many bytes with every message you send, your
news admins will probably pull the plug on you in a matter of days.
And I'll be cheering.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast
Newsgroups: soc.singles,talk.abortion
From: eleanor@cbnews.cb.att.com (eleanor.j.evans)
Subject: Re: Blood types
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:23:06 GMT

In article <lg8potINNhhj@news.bbn.com> ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung) writes:
>So, is there any truth to the blood type and personality relationship?
>I had lunch with a friend today who claims that this is true, and so
>does my mother.  Incidentally, so do most Chinese people.  This is the
>approximate breakdown:
>
>	Type	Personality
>
>	 A	Love a person forever, wait for someone forever
>	 B	(Sorry, forgot)
>	 AB	Fluctuates, quickly gets in and out of infatuations
>	 O	Warm, logical
>


Aaaahhh!!!  What are B's????  (Guess what I am....)

What about Rh factor?  Is that a--tee hee--factor?


Piglet, an A+ in life, a B- in blood.......  
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jdnicoll@prism.ccs.uwo.ca (James Davis Nicoll)
Subject: Re: Why do women
Organization: University of Western Ontario, London
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:27:02 GMT

In article <By3rI8.D6C@unix.portal.com> mzank@shell.portal.com (matthew c zank) writes:
>Why do women just go for men with big muscle and lots of hair,
>and for any man who does not have any of this "too bad"?
>for that matter why do women have such narrow minds when
>it comes to views on men.

	Back when  I was but a mere lurker,  there was a (presumably)
female poster who would make long postings on a similar topic,  except
in her case, it went more like:

	Why is it all men kidnap  women, assault them, beat them
senseless, force them  to read  'Atlas Shrugged', then fling them
to painful deaths at the bottom of  Shaft 14 in the 'Whoops, Apocalypse'
coalmine  in Blacklung, NS?  Why?  Hah? Gwan, tell  me  why?
 
	I  hadn't thought of her in years. Can't  even recall the
name. Is there a  name for the condition  that  causes people to
take isolated  cases and generalise  wildly from them? Is there
a cure?	

>Have a nice day

	Suffer in over-generalising self-pitying dateless naked ape  hell.

							James Nicoll
Newsgroups: soc.singles