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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: DSN Promos for: CAPTIVE PURSUIT (#406)
Organization: Utopia Planitia Starfleet Yards, Mars
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 16:56:11 GMT



Promos for the new ST:DSN episode: "Captive Pursuit" (#406) were released 
today.  The actual program airs starting on Saturday, January 30th.  
Following this episode will be: Q-Less, Dax, and The Passenger.


Here is the promo copy:

   [ Sisko in Ops, talking to alien (in ship) on viewscreen ]

  Sisko:  You've traveled almost 90 thousand light years.

A WANTED PREDATOR FROM THE OTHER SIDE THREATENS THE SPACE STATION...

   [ Alien ship emerging from the wormhole ]

   [ Airlock door on station blasted open ]

  Alien:  Show me where the weapons are stored.

...IS HE A DANGEROUS CRIMINAL, OR A PAWN IN A BRUTAL GAME?

   [ Alien talking with O'Brien and Quark ]

  Alien:  I live the greatest adventure one could ever desire.

NOW THE CREW FINDS THEMSELVES BATTLING THE UNKNOWN.

   [ O'Brien fires phaser at two "hunters" wearing helmets (not unlike
     Stormtroopers) and red uniforms; one of them is hit and falls ]

   [ In Ops ]

  O'Brien:  He's running from something, that's for sure.

   [ Alien leaps across the room and knocks down a hunter ]

   [ O'Brien fires phaser, protecting Alien ]

THE HUNT IS ON, ON THE NEXT ALL NEW EPISODE OF STAR TREK: DEEP SPACE NINE.


{FYI... the catch phrase for BABEL is:  "I'm just not understanding 
 your banter at all well today"... or "No, didn't get a word of it"}


-{ Dean Adams }-
From: cbittel@scoraz.resp-sci.arizona.edu (Clinton Bittel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Holodeck Matter
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:56:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ


huggins@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Jim Huggins) writes:

>In article <C1I0qv.7JG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine) writes:

>I think you can explain this one away ... remember that the book
>disappeared from *Moriarty's* holodeck simulation, which
>was programmed with his own understanding of what a holodeck
>can and can't do.  Since he had never seen holodeck matter
>removed from the holodeck, he didn't know what would happen
>when holodeck matter was removed.


      But he did!  In the first show with Moriarty, he witnessed Data take
   his Enterprise-D drawing off the Holodeck.  So his representation of the
   book should have been that it flies into the corridor and knocks off the
   far wall.

   But since we here in tv land know that any matter leaving the holodeck
   can't hold it's molecular state together leads me to believe that
   Data and Geordi have been stuck in the Holodeck for the last three seasons.
   Hows that for a shocker!



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From: DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: COULD KIRA BE ANY HOTTER?
Date: 27 Jan 93 08:22:02 GMT
 <93025.192340DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: Penn State University


       Here's a bit of the original post :

>>Well, I don't normally read this group, but since she's totally, hot,
>>add me to the I WANT KIRA'S BODY list too.  Yeah!

       Here's my response :

>  Man, I bet some of the people on this group
> are keeping Kleenex in business singlehandedly......

       And here's the flame I got by mail!

ok, ASSHOLE.  First of all, all I said was that I think Kira is gorgeous,
NOT that I sit in front of my trinitron pounding my pud every time I see
the somehow-sexy ridges on her nose.  I think we should fight about this,
prick-lick.  Lynchburg College.  Come find me.  Anyway, why would I need
Kleenex when I can use your sister's mouth?

      Name? Address? Or is Pud Pounder really serious about this
      at all?  How many people go to Lynchburg College,
      anyway? 3 ?

      Hey, wait a minute......
      Sister?  I don't have a sister!
      Whose mouth has this guy been using all along?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:23:40 EST
From: <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: COULD KIRA BE ANY HOTTER?

In article <1993Jan25.132828.74@acavax.lynchburg.edu>,
coleman@acavax.lynchburg.edu says:
>
>Well, I don't normally read this group, but since she's totally, hot,
>add me to the I WANT KIRA'S BODY list too.  Yeah!
>

  Man, I bet some of the people on this group
 are keeping Kleenex in business singlehandedly......

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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: Rating of women on ST/ST:TNG/ DS9
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 14:51:38 GMT


	Can someone enlighten me as to why people find Troi so
unattractive.  Have you seen "The Price" and "Man of the
People"?

							-Quinn
From: krp@spl1 (Ken R Pergrem)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9: Past Prologue - Garak (NO SPOILERS)
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:55:34 GMT
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Lab

In article <mixterhp-180193115535@152.10.11.116> mixterhp@appstate.edu (Perry Mixter ) writes:
>In article <1jeahrINNiea@transfer.stratus.com>, det@phlan.sw.stratus.com
>(David Toland) wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Did anyone else notice that Garak (sp?), the Cardassian clothier, was played
>> by Andrew Robinson, the psychotic serial killer in Dirty Harry?
>> 
>Did he not also play Liberace in one of the TV biographies of same?
>
>
>Perry Mixter                          Director, Office of Cultural Affairs 
>Appalachian State University          Boone, North Carolina  28608
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>Internet: MIXTERHP@APPSTATE.EDU       Bitnet: MIXTERHP@APPSTATE.BITNET 

That's what I thought when I first saw this guy -- "Hey Look! It's the
Cardassian version of Liberace!" -- anyway, I think he could be an
interesting character...

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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Picard's family
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:35:50 GMT

In article <1342@xlnt.COM> david@xlnt.com (David Johnson) writes:
>In article <HJkmXB5w165w@berry.Cary.NC.US>, pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:
>|> somaiah@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Somaiah Kumbera) writes:
>|> 
>|> >    And while at it, could someone tell me why Picard has an English
>|> > accent when he's supposed to be from France?
>|> 
>|> For the same reason that Dr. Bashir has an English accent: because he
>|> learned English from someone who does.
>
>
>When I went to China, I met a Chinese man who spoke English without an
>accent, ie. he sounds English as opposed to American or Chinese.
>I am pretty sure he had never been to the UK.

You mean he had an English accent. Which probably means he was taught 
english by an Englishman. Many Indians (not Native Americans) speak english
with an english accent because for a very long time there was a large English
population in India. With Hong Kong being an English holding (for a few
more years, anyway) there is also a large English population there.

>
>I can speak three languages without an accent.  Why do people think
>it would be impossible for Frenchman to speak English without an accent
>like Picard?  In Europe, people have a lot of contact with people from
>other countries and learn other languages, unlike most Americans.

Are you saying you speak without an accent, or do other people, native
speakers of the language, tell you that you don't have an accent? 


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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Kira is a Trill!
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 23:23:00 GMT


	Kira must be a Trill!  After viewing Spock's
computer-testing sequence in STIV, I heard the machine ask,
"What is Kira-Kin-Tha's first law of metaphysics?", the answer
being, "Nothing unreal exists."

	In all of the TrekBabe discussions, no one's brought up
Ensign Robin Lefler.  YOWZAH!  To good for Wesley...

	I assume that since TNG is ending, that all this
split.current stuff will end.  I think people should be able to
tolerate the volume for a year.
							-Quinn
From: zardoz@sycom.mi.org (David Lillard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Star Trek Card Sets for sale
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:22:34 GMT
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.976

Someone recently posted offering both Impel sets for $25 + shipping.  I'd
be *happy* to sell them for only $15 + shipping for both Series I & II.
I also have the Inaugural/TNG set for $7.50 + shipping.  (WIZARD prices
"suck BIG time")  Best, Dave.
From: sg0d@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (STEPHEN R. GILBERT)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: TNG/DS9: We need the Kira list! also- a new thread
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:00:30 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

It keeps the natives restless.  Which keeps it interesting around
here.  How fun would this group be if we didn't have at least 10-20
posts a day about what not to post?

By the way- add me to the list.  I'll take Kira over any 90201
character any day.  She's got a much more dynamic personality and, as
a consolation, is very sweet.

Now-

Let's create a spin-off-piss-off-all-the-kira-list-haters thread:

Who do you like better Ro or Kira?

(ohhh- a multi-series (TNG/DS9) piss-em-off question no less!)

My vote: Kira is great, but I'll take Ro.

Steve Gilbert
sg0d@Lehigh.edu
From: emg@Metaphor.COM (Mike Greenawalt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Is Odo the guy from Benson?
Date: 26 Jan 93 03:24:08 GMT
Reply-To: emg@Metaphor.COM (Mike Greenawalt)
Organization: m4

In article <1jfj9lINNc4e@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cs884@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven Lam) writes:
|> 
|> Yes the character ODO is played by the same actor from BENSON.
|> His name is... Rene Auberjonois
|> 
|> -- 

Yes, and going even further back, he played the priest in the original movie
version of M*A*S*H.

And even further back, I used to enjoy very much watching his performances
in the drama department productions at Carnegie Tech during his (and my)
undergraduate days.

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From: somaiah@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Somaiah Kumbera)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Sisko's line delivery
Date: 24 Jan 1993 22:41:22 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Distribution: world
Reply-To: somaiah@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Somaiah Kumbera)
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Originator: somaiah@dumbo.cc.utexas.edu

In article 1jcm5mINN76p@geraldo.cc.utexas.edu, somaiah@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Somaiah Kumbera) writes:
>It seemed like Sisko still wants to get the hell out of DS9. I thought
>he had decided to stay at the station after the first episode. But the way he 
>delivered his lines in the second episode (the one with the Baejoran terrorist)
>it still looks detached and...even bored with the whole station thing. Perhaps
>he's just taking the "cool and collected" image too far. Whatever he's doing,
>he's not doing a very good job of filling Picard's shoes. 
				   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

What makes you think he's supposed to filling Picard's shoes???  He's a
commander of a station in his own right - nor is he taking over for Picard.
Maybe in the sense of being the star of the series, but since these are two
different series, and TNG is still going for at least another 1 1/2 years,
Sisko probably shouldn't be looked at as filling Picard's shoes.  What do you
want?  A clone of TNG?  TPTB are trying to make this a different kind of
ST series.

---


What makes me think he's filling Picard's shoes? Well, for starters, he is
supposed to be the main character in DS9, right? Just as Picard was(is) the 
main character in TNG and Kirk was the main character in TOS.

Anyway, my point wasn't about Sisko filling Picard's shoes. (I guess we'll
just have to leave that to Odo!!) My point was, and still is, that Sisko
doesn't have half the charima that Picard does. You can wail all you want, 
but I still think Sisko needs to sound like he's more "into" the show.

I don't want a clone of TNG. I just want a commanding officer who doesn't
sound like my father when I've telephoned home after miscalculating time
zones.



Somaiah.
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From: sweaver3@mach1.wlu.ca (scott weaver 9209 U)
Subject: DSN in Toronto & SW Ontario
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:32:39 GMT


For those that don't get a TV listings, or just don't bother reading
them... 
The timeslot for ST:DSN has changed on CITY TV (57 in T.O., 31 in London).
The new time is 8:00pm Saturdays (i.e. after ST:TNG), unlike last weekend
where it was before TNG.  
My guess is they confused too many FashionTelevision fans!
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From: cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Stewart's/Picard's accent
Date: 22 Jan 93 18:17:20 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <C18wrE.LyC@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> jeffo@uiuc.edu writes:
>Jim Cambias writes
>> I'm not sure I understand your point here:  are you saying that
>> Stewart-as-Picard should speak in French [..]
>
>No, I'm not saying that Picard should speak French all the time.  I'm
>saying that it very much goes along with a notion I find
>ethnocentric--the misrepresentation of people in their home culture.
>People who are French, in the company of their French-speaking
>relatives and friends (sometimes even) in France, when French has been
>shown to still exist, to hear them speaking English to one another is
>something I find very unrealistic.  I sense that this is to cater to
>an American audience most of whom speak nothing but English and carry
>the thought that if it isn't in English, it can't be worth hearing or
>reading.

That is absolutely silly.  You yourself say that we could use subtitles,
but realize that a) subtitles are distracting to read on a long-term
basis, b) that they aren't always clearly visible, 3) the expense of
translating the French and putting the subtitles on the film print
itself, 4) the need for scriptwriters to speak French to write lines
for Picard (I would hope that some do learn foreign languages, but maybe
it's not French, and in any case it ought not be a prerequisite, as we'd
lose a many excellent scripts, 5) the fact that PATRICK STWEART WOULD
NOT BE PLAYING THE CAPTAIN OF THE ENTERPRISE if said Captain had to 
recite his lines in fluent French, 6) at certain times in history
some languages are more dominant than others, as French was last century.
Recognize the difficulty, for instance, of typing in French on this net,
and the outright impossibility of typing in Russian or Arabic.


Now, I agree your complaints about the aliens are a little more
justified, but the Enterprise does have universal translators
and it would be quite time consuming -- time which could be better
spent on developing good scripts -- to develop a unique language for
each race.  Look how much time that they put into developing the Klingon
language.
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From: herd@cc.lut.fi (Markku Herd)
Subject: Re: Top 20 list and then some.....
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:14:46 GMT
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland

kirkm@hotcity.COM (Kirk Marcroft) writes:

> 
>  
>                  **20 Things That Never Happen In Star Trek**
>                    ----------------------------------------

E X C E P T:
>  
> 3. Some of the crew visits the holodeck, and it works properly.

  The episode with lt. Barclay. Among too few others.
  
> 4. The crew of the Enterprise discovers a totally new lifeform, which later
> turns out to be a rather well-known old lifeform wearing a funny hat.

  TOS Enterprise meets the Romulans, descendants of the Vulcans. (OK, not
  a funny hat.)
    
> 7. The Enterprise successfully ferries an alien VIP from one place to another
> without a serious incident.

  The episode with Riva, the mute ambassador. The serious incident happened
  _after_ the ferrying. (Ok, I'm picking nits.)
 
> 10. The Enterprise is captured by a vastly superior alien intelligence which
> doesn't put them on trial.

  Did the Nanites trial them? Can't remember.
   
> 14. The Enterprise is involved in a bizarre time-warp experience which is in
> some way unconnected with the Late 20th Century.

  Yesterday's Enterprise.
 
> 15. Kirk (or Riker) falls in love with a woman on a planet he visits, and
> isn't tragically separated from her at the end of the episode.

  ST:IV. It wasn't a tragic end.

> 16. Counselor Troi states something other than the blindingly obvious.

  'I'm the goddess of empathy...'

> 17. The warp engines start playing up a bit, but seem to sort themselves out
> after a while without any intervention from boy genius Wesley Crusher.

  About every episode of TOS. (DON'T HIT MEEEE!!!)
 
> 20. Most things that are new or in some way unexpected.

21. Enterprise-D boldly goes where no one has gone before.

- Markku Herd ( herd@lut.fi ), a Q-damned nitpicker.
From: ancst8+@pitt.edu (Anuj Chandra)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: WHY DO TREKKIES FIND KIRA ATTRACTIVE
Date: 22 Jan 93 19:23:04 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: ancst8@unixd2.cis.pitt.edu

There is no doubt that Kira is attractive. But her
attractiveness is amplified by the fact that us
ST:NG fans are sick of watching Troi all the time. Face it,
we are bored of watching Troi all the time. Compared to Troi,
almost any ST:NG or DS9 female crew member seems attractive .
However if Tasha Yar was still around, Kira would look like a cow
compared to her.
Conclusion: Kira owes her popularity to Troi having been the 
current 'babe' in ST:NG.
Anuj

  
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From: lecuyer@wam.umd.edu (Catherine L. LeCuyer)
Subject: Re: Cardassia = Iraq
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:46:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan18.043038.1189@exucom.com> mike@exucom.com (Michael Bruckheimer) writes:
>Don Robert DeCosta (DonD@cup.portal.com) wrote:
>: Since we were first introduced to Esign Ro and Bajor I've refered to
>: Bajorians as "Palestines in Space" (said in a "Pigs in Space" voice)
>:  
>:  * Homeworld occupied
>:  * Bajorians traveling from planet to planet looking for home
>:  * Bajorian terrorists fighting for their homeworld
>:  * In the most recent DS9 episode we even get a PLO equivilent terrorists
>:    Organization.
>
>I saw Cardassia as Cuba, the station as Guantanemo and the wormhole as the
>Panema Canal. (I don't know weather or not Bajor is Panama or just a stray
>feature) Maybe the metaphor doesn't go that far?
>>>>---> Mike
> 

My housemate and I have been viewing the Bajor as the Irish - that's just 
our Celtophile bias. Seeing them as Palestines or Kurds or (fill in
the oppressed people of your choice) is valid.

Cathy

"You generally start at the top and work your way down" - Brenna O'Dell
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From: geoffb@coos.dartmouth.edu (Thumper)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Ques: ROMULAN Treaty and Neutral Zone
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:43:38 GMT
Reply-To: geoffb@Dartmouth.EDU
Followup-To: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Organization: Amos Tuck School
Disclaimer: I don't represent Dartmouth and Dartmouth doesn't represent me.

In <wfN0brW00iUzM2EmRu@andrew.cmu.edu> Chris D Castro <cc6e+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>    In one TNG episode, possibly titled The Defector, a defecting
>Romulan, Admiral Jarok, is being used as a pawn by his fellow Romulans. 
>Jarok mentions the name of the treaty between the Federation and
>Romulans.  Does anyone recall if it is the Treaty of Algeron or Treaty
>of Algernon?

Yes, that was called "The Defector." I don't recall if the treaty is
referred to by name or if the final battle of the Federation/Romulan war
is (The Battle of Cheron).

>    A second question.  Does anyone know how thick the Romulan Neutral
>Zone is?  In the above episode, we learn that there is at least one star
>system inside of it.  (This detail suggests it is very wide).  In the
>Reunification episodes, however, we watch as three Vulcan vessels seem
>to teleport across at a mere Warp 1.  (This detail suggests it is paper
>thin).  Has anyone "official" decided its width or is it a plot device?
>(i.e. the zone is as wide as the plot requires).

I think the true width of the Nuetral Zone is 'as wide as the plot
requires' but the "Star Trek: Star Fleet Technical Manual" printed in 1975
(not official but worth mentioning) has a copy of the treaty referred to
in "Balance of Terror." The treaty refers to a Nuetral Zone 'seven hundred
and fifty parsecs in width.'

Now, I have no idea how long it takes a ship at warp one to travel a
'parsec.' SO... Maybe "Unification Part II" was accurate? Warp drive did
not exist when the treaty was negotiated on Stardate 1200.5, generations
before the NCC-1701 set out on its 5 year mission so it would not be
unreasonable for it to be a bit 'thinner' than it could/should be.

I'm setting followups to .misc, this doesn't belong in .current.

-Geoff
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From: brad@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Brad Barton)
Subject: Re: WORST EPISODE
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 14:34:12 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1993Jan21.025655.4266@koko.csustan.edu> msmith@koko.csustan.edu (Marlan Smith) writes:
>
>	I would like to know why no one has listed "The Offspring" or "I Borg"  under BEST EPISODE.  I thought both of those were a tremendous success.
>
>My too sense.

I, Borg is 8 on my top ten.  And The Offspring just barely misses the list...

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