HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: gsm@mendelson.com (Geoffrey S. Mendelson)
Subject: Re: LCII 12megs = 10?
Organization: Mendelson Computer Consulting
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 13:30:47 GMT

jason@writer.yorku.ca (Jason Nolan) asks:


>I have an LCII (see last post ;-) with 6 megs.
>My question refers to the fact that the LCII comes with 1X4meg simms
>hardwired onto the mother board, and there are 2 slots for additional
>simms. Now this is nice, but the addition does not match Apple's claim
>that the LCII can only have 10megs. If I add 2x2megs I get a total of
>8, BUT if I add 2X4megs, then I get 12megs. CAN THE LCII USE ALL THIS
>MEMORY? My local Mac Sales Bunnies can't say. Can you?

In a word NO! The LC II motherboard was built from the original LC
motherboard with  as few changes as possible. Since running system 7 
with 2 megs of ram is possible, but not much fun, Apple doubled the memory
on the motherboard to 4 meg. They had to leave some stuff (such as a 
second floppy port) off to fit it. 

They did not change the memory managment hardware. The original LC was 
designed to support 10 meg (2 on m/b and 2 simms of up to 4 meg). It was
also designed not to support more. This would prevent an LC owner from
buying 2 16 meg sims and having 34 meg. 

There has to be some difference  between the LC and the si besides a
small performance difference  (IMHO a performace difference is small if
it is less than the ratio of prices).

In order to save time and money (the LCII cost less than the LC and it had
a better (68030 vs 68020) processor and 2 meg more ram), the same memory
managment chip was used. So you can plug 4 meg sims into the LC II and
all you will be able to address is 10 meg. And only in 32 bit mode.

Geoff.

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From: arch@gandalf.pei.com (Arch Mott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Help a neophyte with Binhex?
Keywords: binhex hqx
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:28:14 GMT
Organization: Protocol Engines Incorporated

A few days ago I wrote:

>Hi All-

>  I'm a unix sysadmin who has been delving into supporting our Macs for the
>  last 10 months. I need to know how to un-binhex a file I got off the net.
>  That is, assuming that the .hqx extension is what people put on the end of
>  their binhex'ed files....

  I'd like to thank all of you who:

  a) pointed me to the FAQ, which was marginally helpful

  b) actually told me how to deal with this.

  To summarize, this is what happened:

 After a bunch of attempts to get binhex from sumex-aim, I was finally able to 
 get the macbinary version and ftp it. Because I use a proxy ftp setup (and wouldn't 
 know how to modify NCSA telnet to act accordingly) I had to ftp from an internal 
 Unix box, the ftp the binhex.bin to my Mac with macbinary mode enabled. Lo and 
 behold, I then got a double clickable binhex and was then able to un-benhex my 
 .sea file and extract it! Now all of my Mac users get to read News! (I was trying 
 to un-binhex Newswatcher).

Thanks again.

-- 
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Protocol Engines, Inc     |Voice:(415)335-0150 | author's opinion that 
301 E. Evelyn Ave, Suite A| FAX:(415)969-6966  | said user will get what
Mountain View, CA 94041   |                    | he deserves."  -tcsh man page
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: te@uwasa.fi (Tuomas Eerola)
Subject: Re: PB 100, is System 6 Possible??
Organization: University of Vaasa, Finland
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:15:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.144559.16552@aplcen.apl.jhu.edu> (jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu) writes:
>The title says it all (almost).  Some of my old Mac Plus software
>is dying on the PB 100.  At least one program (Sargon 4) is not
>System 7 compatable.  So, I would like to downgrade to System 6.0.X
>Someone on the net  has claimed to have done it. Any  insights?
>
>Also, is it possible to have 2 systems on the same disk, with the user selecting
>which one is the 'right one'.  And how would one (i.e., me) do this.
>
>Thanks for all assistance.
>
>Jon jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
>================================
>
System 6.0.7 works fine. Only promblem is with conrtast or brighness control.
You cannot control it with that wheel on display, you need to get conrols.
but it can be fixed with Portable Update 1.3 (can be ftp:d from ftp.apple.com)
And keyboard at apple menu does not recocnise that keyboard but keys work
ok. When you are downgrading, it can be better to empty that disk completely.

SystemPicker makes it possible to have two systems on same disk, but
two systems take twise as much room and sys6 is much faster anyway.

Tuomas

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.misc:17180 comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc:13195
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Inappropriate subject lines ( Was: Atari Falcons $799...)
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (dogbowl)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 20:16:17 Y
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)
Keywords: Subject lines
Summary: Change the subject line when you change the subject



Hey, how about changing the subject line when the subject changes?



dogbowl at The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)
dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Who crawled up Dvorak's *ss and died?
Date: 1 Oct 92 18:21:37 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

kjt001@dunix.drake.edu (Kevin Tieskoetter) writes:

}What is up with Dvorak, anyway?  All he's been able to do for the last
}several months is bitch about how much he hates Apple and how much the
}Macintosh is a piece of crap.  I thought he used to like the mac...  And
}I once liked his articles...they used to be witty and fun to read...now
}all they are is a bitching and moaning area for him...

You didn't think the latest article on computer names was witty and fun
to read?  Hey, I'll be first in line for one o' them ButtKicker machines!

I agree that the last few articles have been mostly worthless, but I
think he redeemed himself with this one.

--James Preston
From: robichau@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov (Paul Robichaux)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Help me write the Educational Discount FAQ!
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:05:35 GMT
Reply-To: robichau@lambda.msfc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA/MSFC

I am a graduate student, and, as such, prefer to buy software, and
hardware, at educational discounts whenever possible. 

After several fruitless conversations with the local university
bookstore, I came to the conclusion that a FAQ listing which vendors
sell software and hardware at educational discounts.

For example, I know that Frame sells FrameMaker at an educational
discount, but the local bookstore didn't. Many vendors offer discounts
direct to students (Nisus and Meridian come to mind), and I'd like to
research a list and make it available to the community.

So, here's my request: if you know of a vendor who sells their
products at an educational discount, or in an educational package,
send me the vendor name, the product name, the educational price, and
any differences between the educational and normal retail versions.

If I get enough responses to make a list (instead of just saying
"Microsoft & Aldus, and that's it") I'll post it every two weeks.

-Paul
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From: din@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Clarence Din)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Mac IIsi chokes on Wizardry BANE and Solarian 2!
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:29:19 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Having installed Bane of the Cosmic Forge and Solarian 2, I noticed
that clicking too rapidly at the Add Party Member sometimes brings me
back to the desktop (terminating Bane and leaving graphics "garbage"
on the screen).

Solarian 2 simply terminates after clicking on the mouse after the
opening screen with instructions.  The desktop is then left pitch
black, the color of the Solarian 2 opening screen.

What's going on?

I've got a IIsi 5/80.  Virtual mem is off for now as well as 32-bit
addressing.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: My Grouch doesn't work!! HELP!
From: fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov (Fred McKenzie)
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:16:27 EST
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: NASA/Kennedy Space Center, Florida

In article <48092@shamash.cdc.com>, larimer@zeus.cdc.com (Mark D. Larimer)
wrote:
> In article <1992Sep29.194928.2743@dvorak.amd.com> Faisal M. Bhamani, 
> faisal@dvorak.amd.com writes:
> >I have a Powerbook 145 and can not get the Grouch to work.  I
> >put it in the system folder and it automatically put it in the
> >appropriate folder.  When I restart and empty the trash, nothing.
> >What's the deal?  Does it have to have color? 
> The last I heard, the Grouch doesn't work on any System 7 machine.
> Sorry...

Mark and Faisal-

We had the same problem with the Grouch when upgrading to System 7.  I just
found a newer version that works on a Mac IIfx and a Mac Quadra 700, each
running 7.0.1 and tuneup 1.1.1.

It is "The Grouch 2.5B1", available at sumex-aim.stanford.edu (36.44.0.6),
in the /info-mac/ex directory, as grouch-25b1.hqx.  Stuffit is required to
unpack it.

fred-mckenzie@ksc.nasa.gov
From: ns111310@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (The BLaCKSMiTHE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Apple 21" greyscale monitor   ***FOR SALE***
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:50:11 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

Apple Macintosh 21" Greyscale Monitor
FOR SALE

IDEAL  FOR  DESKTOP  PUBLISHING
1152 x 880 pixel display area,
72 dpi (Macintosh WYSIWYG)
Display card is compatible with any Macintosh 
with NuBus slots 
(II, IIx, IIcx, IIci, IIfx, IIsi, Quadras, etc.)
Display card has had the RAM upgraded
to display 16 shades of grey.
No Distortions, no flicker, bright, sharp, and fast.
Display area is approximately 16" by 12"
It is large enough to easily fit two 8.5x11 pages 
side-by-side, with plenty of room for tool pallets.
I am selling it because I am purchasing a
NeXT computer.
The monitor is clean, no scratches, dents,
it is in perfect condition.
Built-in tilt/swivel base is included along with
all cables (power and interface)

asking  $900

contact Nate Sammons at 303.482.6812
(leave a message)
or email: ns111310@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu

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From: cours@pixel.rm.fccc.edu
Subject: QuickTime Movies
Reply-To: cours@pixel.rm.fccc.edu
Organization: Fox Chase Cancer Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:31:24 GMT

 	Does anyone out there know if the Director 3.0 program can be used to create
Quicktime movies from videotape?  Any replies email to cours@pixel.rm.fccc.edu.
 Thanks in advance.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: FTPmail from Sumex and UMichigan
From: brecher@husc8.harvard.edu (Jonathan Brecher)
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:21:33
Organization: Harvard Arts and Sciences Computer Services, Cambridge, MA
In-reply-to: bowler@athena.mit.edu's message of 30 Sep 92 05:52:39 GMT

The mailserver for mac.archive.umich.edu is mac@mac.archive.umich.edu
Send it the single-word content "help" (no quotes), with any subject line.
 
                                jonathan brecher
                                brecher@husc.harvard.edu
                                assistant mac.archivist
From: balewis@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Lemmings Demo: GET IT!
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:36:35 GMT
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <1992Sep30.114118.24323@westminster.ac.uk>, 
   marcus@westminster.ac.uk (Marcus Harvey) writes:

[...stuff about Lemmings Demo deleted]

> Can you upload the DEMO to sumex, PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE!!?!?!??!?!?!
> 

But surely it's already there... try info-mac/demo.

Bridget Lewis

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Re: Atari Falcons $799... WHO CARES! Just try to emulate it.
From: feijai@endor.byu.edu (Sean Luke)
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:16:14 -0700
Reply-To: sean@digaudio.byu.edu

In article <1992Sep28.224232.3491@infonode.ingr.com>  writes:
>My PC IS alot better than any sub-30MHz '030  box.  Of course, Amiga
>people (like the guy I was responding to) will tell you that those 
>so-ladylike blitter and music chips make up for the lack of cpu power.  
>They say this probably because they don't know that you can add all this 
>functionality and more to a PC for about $300, which is less than the 
>difference in price between a modern PC and a reasonably powerful Amiga.
>
>------------
>Bailey Brown                               "Above all else, confusion  
reigns."
>Intergraph Corporation                                  
>bbrown@casca.b11.ingr.com                              Procol Harum



Being from Intergraph, I would assume that you realise that, at least for  
personal computers, I/O-bound (as opposed to CPU-bound) tasks like disk  
access and display are fast becoming a very significant barometer of a  
computer's "power", since the importance of graphical interfaces, etc., is  
on the rise. 

You pushed for a cpu-bound task test.  I propose the following test:

Boot the most popular GUI for your computer system.  Run a test that, oh,  
say, finds 10,000 prime numbers using Sieve.  The test program must have a  
menu with start and quit, and a window with scroll bars to display.  Every  
twentieth time the program finds another prime number, it prints the  
number in the window, one line down from previous printing, in Times Roman  
Italic 18 pt.  The scroll bars should work during computation, allowing  
the user to see all of the long list of numbers.

I think this is a fairly good mix of I/O and CPU for a typical graphical  
interface.  What do you get?  Anyone with a Mac?


--

Sean Luke
Brigham Young University                   MILK:  It Comes From Cows
sean@digaudio.byu.edu  
NeXTmail and nifty Mac stuff welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: Nazedgi@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu ()
Subject: Mac's Doomsday
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Organization: Public Macs, Academic Computing, Yale University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:08:07 GMT


Being a former PC user and now a Mac convert I've come to the following
conclusion:  The majority of Mac users just don't get it.  If Apple really
wants to lure a significant amount of PC users it will have to do something
more than proclaim the superiority of the Mac hardware and software. 
They'll have to enter a cut-throat competition:  Dell is doing it, Compaq
is doing it,  Big Blue is doing it.  And I'm not talking about
middle-of-the-road solutions like the Performa line,  I'm talking about
really powerful computer at cheap prices.  Right now, you can get Windows
workstations for less than $2000 (including a monitor) that would blow away
all but the fastest macs, the Quadra line. Now, I'm not saying that Windows
is even close to the MacOS (heck, it's not even an operating system), but
it will certainly give you a good run for your money.  For the average PC
user, Macs look pretty,  but incredibly overpriced. 

Apple computer is a financially healthy company with huge cash reserves. 
They can afford to cut their profit margins without sacrificing quality or
performance.  If they could offer competitive prices to PC users, many of
them would jump into the Mac bandwagon.  Apple would increase their
marketshare and hence would be able to keep their profit margins down. 
Apple must act quickly because soon another formidable competitor is going
to enter the race:  Windows NT.  Bill Gates already succeded in turning a
lemon like Windows into a hit.  God only knows what he'll do with a true
gem like Windows NT.  Bill Gates is the predator and Apple may well be one
of his most coveted preys.
From: arno@apple.com (Arno Gourdol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: "Why I hate System 7..."
Date: 27 Sep 92 21:03:17 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
X-Xxdate: Sun, 27 Sep 92 14:02:57 GMT
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6EB6F911B02047E@arno.apple.com>

First, I am not representing Apple.

I would like to hear the voices of those of you who HATE System 7.
Not those of you that do use it because you think its advantages
(FileSharing, 
Aliases, New Finder, Configurable Apple Menu, Inteligent System Folder,
more robust, Baloon Help, Publish/Suscribe, AppleEvents, ...) outweights
its
defaults (too slow, needs too much memory...).
So my question is what should change in System 7.x to make it acceptable
to you?
Would you be ready to pay for that?

Lastly, I am still not representing Apple.
If you want to voice any of your concern about Apple policies, write
(no e-mail, no phone, no fax) at:

        Apple Customer Assistance Center
        20525, Mariani Avenue
        Cupertino, CA 95014
        USA
        
This is the right place to do it. You will be heard.
--
Minds, like parachute, only function when open.
I did it, I did it!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: nasadk@aix02.ecs.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski)
Subject: Re: Do you Know?
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 06:31:18 GMT

victor@ucme.Berkeley.EDU (Victor Wang) writes:

>Hi Boo Ko,
>	Are you considering more questions?  Frankly, I was thinking why you are
>not going to by a Cherokee instead of others.  I think it will be useful if you
>buy it because in the local most of time you will be driving Oldsmobile.  The
>Cherokee will more than likely driving for travel maybe local too but it doesn't
>matter.  Since the most of time it will be driving for travel, it is more 
>comfortable to drive Cherokee than others.  If you are driving in local it 
>doesn't matter what type of the car you are driving so we don't need to consider
>about it.  Also, an other point, if Emy will "really" buy a boat for you later
>a Lexus is not enough to pull a boat.  I think if you will stay in America for
>a several years and if you will buy a boat then it is neccesary to get a utility
>car, if you can forget the luxury cars.  If you won't buy a boat then nothing
>will really need to worry about, just get a luxury car for comfort.  If the few
>point in the mind are clear, then either a utility car or a luxury car is all 
>depends on the situations.  Maybe you can consider a mini van too.

Some poor person MUST have a very interesting Macintosh question in
his e-mail that he has NO idea how to answer.

Nazman
<nasadk@rpi.edu>

P.S. I'd have bought the Cherokee too!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: jong-min@ie.engr.wisc.edu (Jong-Min Park)
Subject: Where did HD Partition INIT come from?
Organization: /usr/local/lib/organization
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:07:46 CDT

I misplaced the DeskAccessory for HD Partition INIT and I'm not able
to access my partitioned disk/files. I see that the partitioned file
is an invisible file named 'InivisHD3bo..'. Where did HD Partition
INIT come from? Is it part of MacTools, Norton Util, etc.? Please
e-mail to jong-min@ie.engr.wisc.edu. Thank you.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: Re: Apple File Exchange for Executables?
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 18:06:06 GMT

>I've downloaded a bunch of .hqx files from sumex as ASCII on a PC.  I delete
>the headers leaving (This file must be converted with Binhex...) at
>the top.  I also download (by the way, I'm using FTP) BinHex-4.bin in
>binary mode.  Now, I use Apple File Exchange to convert my PC files to
>Mac Files.  I can't get the binary file to run.  What's wrong?

A few key points:

1) BinHex 4.0 is a lousy debinhexing program. There are many better
programs for debinhexing files that don't care about headers (saving you
the deletion step) and don't choke on non-Mac style line-ends. A very good
choice is DeHQX, available from many sites, including sumex.stanford.edu. 

2) Binary files downloaded on any computer other than a Mac will be in
macbinary format (which is a way to glom together the resource fork, data
fork, and file information in one file). To use this file on a Mac, you
need to convert it from macbinary format to a standard mac file. Two
programs that do this are Macbinary and Unfolder (check your favourite
archive site). Many comm programs on the Mac take care of the macbinary
conversion automatically, but some do not.

3) You should never have to ResEdit in TYPE and CREATOR information if the
file orginated on a Mac and proper macbinary conversion is done. However,
data files from PCs (GIF, TIFF, TEXT, etc.), may end up on your Mac with
the wrong TYPE information, in which case, you need to either change the
TYPE or use a program on your Mac to open the file that doesn't care what
the TYPE is (sometimes Option Open, Shift Open, Import, or some other
special option can be used).
From: nikhil@lsil.com (Nikhil Modi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: X windows
Date: 25 Sep 92 16:58:55 GMT
Reply-To: nikhil@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation

I am interested in running X windows on my Macintosh while running the window manager
and clients on a remotely connected Unix machine (Sun). I am accessing this remote
machine through a high speed modem.

I was wondering if there was any software that available for the Mac that would fake
TCP/IP through a serial line (modem and telephone).

I would appreciate any help in this regard. Thanks in advance.

---

-Nikhil.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Distribution: world
From: Administrator%BOA@bmug.org
Organization: BMUG, Inc.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 01:33:36 PDT
Subject: Re: Wierd Behavior - VIRUS?

Sorry if this doesn't have a lot to do with the original question but you
brought up TuneUp 1.1.1 and I just installed System 7.1 on my IIfx.  It
seemed that I was having eratic behavior since the installation but
attributed it to some of the inits that I was running.  Once I read your
message I thought, "Gee, I wonder if this could be my problem."  Then I
went in and looked in my Extensions folder and noticed that TuneUp was
no longer there.  I am assuming that the 7.1.0 Installer removes this
file upon installation, would this be a proper assumption?

-Gregg 
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