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From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Subject: Maltby & Shire's "BIG"
Organization: Amherst College
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Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 21:35:31 GMT

I know that Richard Maltby, Jr. and David Shire are currently working on
adapting the film _Big_ as a stage musical, and I was curious if anyone
has heard anything else about this...

--
	** Ala"ddi"n **

	"There will be riches and magical places
	 A private oasis out there in the sands..."

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From: rdutt@mksol.dseg.ti.com (richard f. dutt)
Subject: Falsettos
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 22:42:28 GMT

I just got the double disk recording of "March of the Falsettos" and
"Falsettoland" (for $10 none the less).  I was wondering if someone
could post or mail me a plot summary of the two shows.  The lyrics
don't give a good explaination of what's going on and it's taking
me some time to figure it out.  Also, is there a recording of
"In Trousers" out there?  I'd be interested in getting it.

"My father's a homo, my mother's not thrilled at all."  What a great
line.

-Rich

 
-- 

e-mail: rdutt@ms3.dseg.ti.com
        rdutt@mksol.dseg.ti.com
From: drich@sandman.lerc.nasa.gov (Daniel Rich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: CHESS: What really happened on stage?
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:53:16 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center

Well, I can't speak for the B'way or London version (and remember, the
Concept album is *not* the London cast recording, but was produced
before the show--if nothing else, they gave the characters names in
the show), but the Off-B'way version from last winter was wonderful.
While I wasn't overly impressed with the direction and some of the
acting, I think they finally got the story more or less sorted out.

I played the Arbiter in a community theater production last winter (a
few months before it opened Off-B'way), and IMHO, the american version
stinks on ice.  The script is a mess, the story completely butchers
the original, and most of the musical changes add nothing to the
story.  It's amazing what they will do to a show just to soothe the
American ego....

-- 
-- 
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Sr. Systems Engineer        | "Danger, you haven't seen the last of me!"
RMS Technologies, Inc.      |    "No, but the first of you turns my stomach!"
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From: arndt_w@cubldr.colorado.edu
Subject: Re: Chock Full O'Goodies!!!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:54:28 GMT

In article <1k5oh5$6eg@agate.berkeley.edu>, dkodmur@ocf.berkeley.edu (Daniel Kodmur) writes:
  But I have derived
> enough pleasure from her recent Disney album and her live work that I would 
> still go far out of my way to see her.  Bluntly, I would rather see a
> Barbara Cook on the downward slope than Sarah Brightman at her peak, whatever
> that is.  As another example, I heard Leontyne Price in recital four or five
> years ago.  Now, we all knew she had lost a lot, and that Kathleen Battle
> was the new diva, but it did not matter. She still dazzled us.  We should
> not accept mediocrity just because it has a history, but not everything has to
> be new and improved.
> 
I had to respond to your comments about Barbara Cook.  A few summers ago I got
very excited when Elitch's Theatre in Denver (a wonderful old theatre in the
middle of Denver's oldest amusement park) announced that one of their offerings
would be a concert show by Bernadette Peters.  I got tickets for me and my
mother right away.  In what may be a classic example of "good news, bad news,"
there was an announcement that Ms. Peters had to cancel, but she would be
replaced by Barbara Cook.  Wow.  It was a terrific concert.  She had Wally
Harper and a huge stage band.  She wore the blue dress from the FOLLIES concert
at Lincoln Center.  Some of the matinee ladies in Denver apparently did not
know her or her work (having bought tickets for that adorable little
Bernadette), but they warmed up and by the end of the show were standing on
their seats.

I, however, do know her work, and when she began a series of five or six
encores, I kept yelling "Ice Cream! Ice Cream!" and realized I was getting very
funny looks from people around me.  But she DID sing "Ice Cream," which my
friend in New York tells me she hardly ever does anymore.  When she did "'Til
There was You," there wasn't a dry eye in the house.

BTW, I love the Disney album too.  But the one that I have in the car stereo
all the time is "Better With a Band."  The title song, "I love a Piano," and "I
Can Cook, Too" are not only brilliant singing, but examples of wonderful
orchestrations by Mr. Harper.

	Bill
>
From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (K. Mitchell Bose)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: CHESS: What really happened on stage?
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:36:21 GMT
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In article <1993Jan27.140036.15651@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
>
>	I'm pretty sure the London Chess opened in 1986, not
>1988, which was when it opened on Broadway.
>						-Quinn

Well, er, um, yes, but these are staging notes from two years into the run, in
1988.  The show was still at the PET, and it is the original run.

-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) * kbos@carina.unm.edu * Walks: not that sexy.
Me: "The relationship just didn't work.  She had this...Chaplinesque quality."
Lisa: "You mean, you didn't like her because she was always being funny?"
Me: "No. [pause] I didn't like her because she was a little tramp."
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From: larry@bradley.bradley.edu (L. D. Stratton)
Subject: Re: Falsettos
Organization: Bradley University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 14:20:47 GMT

In <1993Jan26.224228.27375@mksol.dseg.ti.com> rdutt@mksol.dseg.ti.com (richard f. dutt) writes:

>I just got the double disk recording of "March of the Falsettos" and
>"Falsettoland" (for $10 none the less).  I was wondering if someone
>could post or mail me a plot summary of the two shows.  The lyrics
>don't give a good explaination of what's going on and it's taking
>me some time to figure it out.  Also, is there a recording of
>"In Trousers" out there?  I'd be interested in getting it.

   I found "In Trousers" on LP, not on disk.  It wasn't easy to find.     

   As far as plot, you'd better study the lyrics, the whole show is 
   sung and, from the play form, very little is omitted.  It isn't all
   that hard to understand.
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Subject: Summer job
From: jmazner@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 28 Jan 93 22:21:17 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

Howdy all!

I'm looking for summer job as a techie (electrician,or maybe a grip,) int the
San Francisco Bay area.  Any suggestions?  Post-em here or mail to me at

JMAZNER@Eagle.Wesleyan.edu
From: pirmann@porthos.rutgers.edu (David Pirmann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: On a Clear Day You Can See Forever?
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:37:47 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University LCSR


Some people on alt.quotations were talking about "On a clear day you
can see forever") and joann@ariadne.SLAC.Stanford.EDU (Jo Ann Malina)
writes: 

>It's the title of a song. I've heard Barbra Streisand and Robert
>Goulet sing it. It's from a 1960's musical (well, maybe early 70's)
>called "The Fantastiks," which had a successful run on Broadway.

It's not from "The Fantasticks."  "The Fantasticks" successful
run is off-Broadway, and has been running for 30 years. But the song
you mention is *not* from that show.  Perhaps someone on
rec.arts.theater can help us out and tell us where it is really from.


Dave
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From: sws8n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Stefan William Sittig)
Subject: Re: "Children Will Listen"
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:08:24 GMT

In article <24800@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> msheldon@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com (Marti Sheldon) writes:
>
>During the Inaugural Gala, Barbra Streisand sang a song with the
>refrain "Children Will Listen" (or something like that).  My husband
>and I recognized it as being from a musical.  He thought it was from
>Into the Woods.  Anyone know for sure?  Who sung it and what was the
>context (in whatever show it is from)?  Thanks.

The song is from INTO THE WOODS and is sung by the witch right before the
show's finale.  It is perhaps one of the most precious songs ever written
by SOndheim, and I believe it gives the whole show the meaning it's supposed
to have.  The song is basically saying to parents that they need to be careful
what they tell there children for this will influence the rest of their lives.
And I think this ties in with an aspect of INTO THE WOODS that some critics of
the show have seized to grasp.  INTO THE WOODS is not really about "fairy-tales
gone bad" but about the breaking of fantasy by reality as a child.  Children have been guided into being very fantasy oriented as kids and this is nice, but there gcomes a time in every kids life that reality has to play a part.  The fairy tales that most kids here as kids are very soothing, and peaceful, yet very
very unrealistic.  Kids are brought up to believe that they will live "happily
ever after" and that their prince/princess will come to rescue them or love them.  Please!  Hence, "Careful the things you say, children will listen.  Careful the things you do, children will see, and learn."
							-Stefan

"You that song, "Someday My Prince will Come?" ... well it's all SHIT!"
					-Beyond Therapy
						Christopher Durrang

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From: calliope@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanna Salgado)
Subject: Re: "Children Will Listen"
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 19:38:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.172918.2152@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>	Actually, that is also the main theme in the Witch's Lament after
>Rapunzel dies, which (since it is a song on its own, rather than part of
>an ensemble number) is far more likely to have been what Streisand sand,
>although I did not see it either. Wish I had, though--I'm not a Streisand
>fan, but I can see how that number would fit her voice nicely.
>				--Jess



Actually, I believe that in the Lament, the witch sings "Children
won't listen," but that doesn't really matter.  What I really wanted
to know is, is that realy a whole song?  From what I remember, the
Witch's Lament only had the "children Won't Listen" part for a couple
of lines, at the very end.  

The "Children Will Listen" theme lasts about twice as long in the
Finale, and the words are a lot nicer to sing out of context, too.

				--Joanna
				  %[;-)

Don't ask me, I was Snow White.
From: jimkelle@phakt.usc.edu (Quicksilver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Answer to Into the Woods Trivia
Date: 22 Jan 1993 17:30:58 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1993Jan22.090849.21473@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
>
>	It's five pounds, not five gold pieces.  And since when
>does the 1700's qualify as "early renaissance"?

Yes, I checked my script and apparently my memory was in fact playing
tricks on me.  I believe the point I was trying to make was that it 
had to be pre-renaisance, but I don't recall my exact wording.  Sorry
for the trouble.

--Jim!
From: dsy@psych.toronto.edu (Desiree Sy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Original cast recording of "Follies"
Date: 24 Jan 93 14:48:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: psych.1993Jan24.144817.19289
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto

In article <C1BE2M.7BI@acsu.buffalo.edu> chu@acsu.buffalo.edu (John C. Chu) writes:
>In article <1993Jan22.154637.1@cubldr.colorado.edu> arndt_w@cubldr.colorado.edu writes:
>>But with all of these recordings, there's still
>>missing music.  Whatever happened, for instance, to "Tango D'Amour"?  I
>>remember it vividly from the show, but I cannot recall the music.
>
>(Nit-picky point: I haven't looked at the score in years, but I think
>it's "Bolero D'Amour" No big deal.) 

Yes, it's "Bolero".  Of course, in rehearsal, everyone just
called it the tango number, so there you go.

>Why it isn't on the Concert
>recording, I have no idea.  It's not as if they were running short on
>disc space...

Was the Bolero in the concert?  I'd suspect not.  From everything
I've seen on that ridiculously cut video, the choreography,
including the tap numbers that only the dancers participated in,
was very simple.  It would be hard to put together a decent tango
number.  Mind you, being underrehearsed in singing didn't seem to
bother most of the cast, so there you go....

-desiree
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From: calliope@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanna Salgado)
Subject: Re: CHESS: What really happened on stage?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 08:31:51 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.132330.21047@yang.earlham.edu> gretchke@yang.earlham.edu (Glory Card!) writes:
>In article <1jn8jsINNidu@coral.bucknell.edu>, norbeck@pleiades.cs.bucknell.edu (Naughty Nukes NY in her 1999 Nissan) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> A few months (or maybe even longer) ago someone who had seen CHESS
>> posted a description of what it was like on stage, with how the
>> stage was set, and what sorts of other visual actions and effects took
>> place.  If that person is still out there and could send me a copy of
>> that info, I'd really appreciate it!  I just recently played the
>> concept album to a friend of mine who has completely fallen in love
>> with it and wants to know more about it, but I can't remember much of
>> what I read in that post.  I'd love to be able to show it to her.
>> 
>> I don't get a chance to read news often anymore, so email wuld
>> be appreciated.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> Nancy
>> --
>>
>	Would you mind emailing it to me, too?  This has got to be my 
>favorite musical.
>
>       -Gretchen Kelly :  gretchke@yang.earlham.edu-
>
>-- 
>"The mist clung to the mountain the same way a thirteen-year-old girl clings
>to her boyfriend, although the mountain wasn't thinking about "getting lucky."
>                                 (1990 Bulwer-Lytton Fiction Contest entry)


Me three...Oh, BTW, are you talking about the Off-Broadway, low-budget version from February of last year?  If so, I saw it and thought it was amazing.  Now
the original is something that I would have liked to see.  Is it ever going
to come back?  I love Chess.  In fact, I was just listening to it this 
afternoon (the one with Elaine Paige and Murray Head, not the B'way cast...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
From: gwb@cbnews.cb.att.com (gregory.blum)
Subject: Re: "Children Will Listen"
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:37:57 GMT

>In Message <24800@hacgate.SCG.HAC.COM> in the rec.arts.theatre NewsGroup
>msheldon@luna.dpl.scg.hac.com (Marti Sheldon) wrote...
>
>MS>During the Inaugural Gala, Barbara Streisand sang a song with the
>MS>refrain "Children Will Listen" (or something like that).  My husband
>MS>and I recognized it as being from a musical.  He thought it was from
>MS>Into the Woods.  Anyone know for sure?  Who sung it and what was the
>MS>context (in whatever show it is from)?  Thanks.
>

One thing that I noticed in the Gala performance is that the words
that Streisand used were not the same as those in the stage production.

Does anyone know if she (once again) got Sondheim to write the new
ones for her?

(I was thinking of transcribing the words from my video tape of the
Gala and doing a side by side comparison to see how much things changed,
but never got around to it.  However, I distinctly remember (and have
since verified on the tape) that Babs sang "Guide them and set them
free, children will glisten."  This doesn't show up anywhere that I
could find in my libretto....)
From: ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Joseph
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:01:23 GMT
Reply-To: ahsiung@labs-n.bbn.com (Anita Hsiung)
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We have tickets to the opening of ALW's new LA production of "Joseph
and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat" starring Michael Damien (of
"Young and the Restless" fame).  Previews begin Feb. 17, opening night
is the 25th.  If anyone is interested, it's playing at the Pantages
Theatre in Hollywood.  I'll post a review of sorts after I see it.

	-- Anita --


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From: sws8n@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Stefan William Sittig)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: SUNSET BOULEVARD - THE FULL DETAILS!!!
Date: 24 Jan 93 18:29:41 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1993Jan23.194900.7946@news.cs.brandeis.edu> st923058@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>
>	Well, now, I don't know if he's the greatest composer. He gives
>audiences what they want, and I like his stuff. As a theatre person and
>techie, I'd say his stuff is incredible...as a musician, I'd say that
>Sondheim blows him out of the water. But I am sure you do not want to start
>this thread AGAIN, so I shall shut up now.
>	Does anyone know what Judi Dench has done besides being the first
>Grizabella and playing Dame Quickly in Kenneth Branagh's phenomenal "Henry
>V"? I figured she had to have come from the stage, but I didn't know she
>did musicals.
>	While we're in the subject, does anyone have a list of the actresses
>who have played Grizabella? The only ones I can come up with offhand are
>Elaine Page, Betty Buckley and Diane Frantatoni. Others?
>					--Jess, who spent 4 years trying to
>extend her range to a law F so she could sing "Memory" in its original key :)

Here are two more names of actresses who have played Grizabella:

Laurie Beechman
Liz Callaway (from recording of Baby)

						-Stefan
.
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From: rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Richard Sucgang)
Subject: R.A.T NY meet
Reply-To: rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Richard Sucgang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 07:31:39 GMT

Dear everyone,

Last week, I posted a proposal to have a r.a.t get together
here in NYC sometime this year, and solicited some opinions.
Well, about 10 people have expressed interest in the matter,
among them (joy!) Anita Hsuing, Tom Murray, Jon Conrad and 
David Fristrom, pending resolution of the actual date.

I would like to now get a more serious feel for who would definitely
be interested in coming. I know that many actually make regular trips
to New York; this would be an excellent chance to finally meet one
another face to face. 

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN ATTENDING A R.A.T GET TOGETHER IN NEW
YORK CITY, PLEASE E-MAIL ME A SHORT MESSAGE SAYING SO BY WEDNESDAY
NEXT WEEK (JAN 27) AT THE LATEST.

Please use rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu.

I (or Andrew) will compile the names into a mailing list, 
and begin serious discussions on shows, dates, accomodations, 
and the format of the meet. 

I am indebted to Andrew Ku who has offered to help organize the 
conference with me. All volunteers are of course greatly appreciated.
None of us has had any experience with meetings like this before,
so all advice is welcome.

Hoping to see you soon.

-rich
Richard Sucgang  : Dept. of Anatomy and Cell Biology Columbia University
(sucgang@cuhhca.hhmi.columbia.edu | rs54@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu)
"...Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde, individually, collectively or otherwise." 
			-Colm Wilkinson, Highlights from Jekyll and Hyde
From: atzachar@unix.amherst.edu (Aladdin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.theatre
Subject: Re: Falsettos
Date: 28 Jan 93 03:58:45 GMT
Organization: Amherst College
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L. D. Stratton (larry@bradley.bradley.edu) wrote:
> >>>don't give a good explaination of what's going on and it's taking
> >>   I found "In Trousers" on LP, not on disk.  It wasn't easy to find.     
> >>   As far as plot, you'd better study the lyrics, the whole show is 
> >>   sung and, from the play form, very little is omitted.  It isn't all
> >>   that hard to understand.
> >It's thrown me for a loop.
> 
>     OK, fast synopsis.  Marvin and Trina are married. They have a son,
>     Jason.   Marvin meets Whizzer (another guy).  They fall in love.
>     Marvin and Trina divorce.  Marvin and Whizzer separate.  Trina 
>     marries Mendel.  It's time for Jason's Bar Mitzvah (they are Jewish).
>     Marvin and Trina fight.  Whizzer shows up.  Marvin and Whizzer fall
>     in love again.  Dr. Charlotte and Cordelia, the lesbians who live
>     next door, become friends of everyone.  Whizzer has AIDS.  Whizzer
>     is dying.  Whizzer can't be at the Bar Mitzvah.  Jason, who at first
>     was really bothered by his father's orientation, likes Whizzer enough
>     to suggest having the Bar Mitzvah at the hospital so Whizzer can 
>     be a part of it.   They do.   The impression is that Whizzer dies
>     at the very end, or, at least, you expect that he will.  Marvin
>     sings great love song "What Would I Do?" to Whizzer.  Fini.
> 
>     Need more?

It's the ghost of Whizzer in the end..... Originally in the end (I think
they may have done this in Falsettoland or in previews of Falsettos), the
plan was to have "What Would I Do?" and then to have a picture of the AIDS
quilt to appear on the stage, zooming in on one part which says "Marvin
loves Whizzer", but it was too emotional...
--
	** Ala"ddi"n **

	"There will be riches and magical places
	 A private oasis out there in the sands..."