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From: joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:13:20 GMT
Reply-To: joe@rider.cactus.org
Distribution: tx
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

much of fest 5 planning has been coming into shape over the last month or
so, but much remains to be completed. one of the more nebulous things
I'm working with right now is the length of the fest. it's looking like
I'll need to plan a friday for "travel to" the campsite, or reserve the
following monday for "return travel" back home.

if everything comes together correctly, fest 5 promises to be a good
couple of notches above fest 4 in entertainment value. I don't want
to discourage anyone from coming by using a weekday, but to get the most
out of fest 5 we really need the extra time. the only other alternative
is to change the premise of the fest from a "ride" style to a "camp"
style (like the CA joust) where we meet just for camping and if there's
any riding it's unplanned spur of the moment type stuff. we'd be stealing
this day somewhere in late march or early april. I don't want to move
away from the "ride" style since we've got some _really good_ routes planned
out, and splatterfest was founded on the houston people constantly whining
about not having any good roads around :-)

that's all the detail you're gonna get for now (steve, kent, keep your
mouths shut). email or post your thoughts...

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@rider.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com

        mcad.dunham-frodo[ 10 ]%make witches\ burn
        Make:  Don't know how to make witches burn.  Stop.
     Ergo, it must be the wizards." -- Jerry Dunham
From: joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: AAahhhh, wipe-out!
Date: 3 Jan 93 06:02:11 GMT
Reply-To: joe@rider.cactus.org
Distribution: tx
Organization: NOT

kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
]- I practice picking better lines through corners. A technique more recently
]called 'late apexing' needs to be learned. 

is this the opposite of the keith code technique of getting the turning over
early or have I misunderstood you?

]Go pick up a book on auto racing
]that describes how to pick appropriate lines. I don't have an references as I
]learned it racing my little Fiat over 20 years ago.

aren't the do's and dont's of 4-wheeled racing a little different than the
do's and dont's of two wheeled racing?

]- If you need to slow down, do it BEFORE reaching the corner. Best is to pick
]a constant speed wich is max for the curves. Give yourself that extra time
]between curves to pick that better line and do a better job of setting the
]bike up. 

an all too important fact indeed. trying to slow yourself down IN the corner
is probably the absolute worst thing you can ever do, aside from actually
dropping the bike :-)  if you want to swing wide, or upset your suspension,
or basically feel like you have no control in a corner, just use your brakes.
and don't forget that rolling off the throttle is just as much a brake as
the wheel mounted ones. a bike with tall gears and a light flywheel will 
quickly eliminate traction with a sharp cutoff of the juice...

]Of course in Houston you might go to sleep waiting for that next
]corner...

if they rest up they might stay awake until they hit austin :)

]- Practice both technique #1 and #2 when reasonable. #1 is the most
]important.  It seems to go against everything your brain is telling you to do
]at the moment you need it most. Constant practice will hopefully override
]your basic 'instincts' to slow down - when it is most dangerous.

another 'instinct' I ran across while we were shedding rubber on park road 37
was putting my foot out when the rear end breaks loose, like I'm gonna be able
to do any good planting my foot at XX mph. luckily my sensibilities kicked in
before my foot got to the pavement. which reminds me how much I hate those
michelins :-) when my battleax's get here, you're gonna get a phone call kent,
we're gonna visit that one again :)

]About 15 years ago, one of the Motorcycle mags did a survey of how often
]experienced riders went down. Turned out the average was once every five
]years.

yipes, I'm overdue :-)

-- 
Joe Senner -- joe@Rider.Cactus.Org           aDoF#?                Austin, TX

    'When I asked Unix to make the witches burn I got:
         mcad.dunham-frodo[ 10 ]%make witches\ burn
         Make:  Don't know how to make witches burn.  Stop.
     Ergo, it must be the wizards.' -- Jerry Dunham
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Date: 22 Dec 92 16:08:01 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Distribution: tx
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]Hmmmmmm, does S5 have anything to do with BB?  

BB? no, not your brain size mark, we're talking about RIDING, you know,
that motorcycle thing. only we're talking about the kind where you
actually TURN the wheel, not like riding in houston.

]And what about 
]this naming convention . . . the last one was Volume I, issue
]4 . . since we're in a new year . . will it be Volume II, issue
]1 . . . . . or are we gonna stick with sequential real numbers?

the official title is the volume/issue, but for quick reference just
convert to the sequential id...

](Gosh, I gotta find something better to do that sit at this
]@#$)@#($@)$# terminal!!)

I think you just need to grind off some more peg material. it's obviously
been too long since you've seen curvy roads...

]]that's all the detail you're gonna get for now (steve, kent, keep your
]]mouths shut). email or post your thoughts...
]This shouldn't be tooo hard for kent . . . huh? what? I don't know
]what you're talking about . . . . 

forget it mark, you aint gettin' one...
(yea, yea, shuddup don)

]Which causes me some heartburn now that I think about it . . . We've
]got a bunch of DoF's doing the planning . . . I'd hate to get stuck
]out in the middle of nowhere with a DoF who doesn't know where we're
]going?? or why we're going . . at all??

you'd hate to find yourself out in the hill country, on your motorcycle,
with no set destination??? sick mark, really really sick...

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@rider.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com

        mcad.dunham-frodo[ 10 ]%make witches\ burn
        Make:  Don't know how to make witches burn.  Stop.
     Ergo, it must be the wizards." -- Jerry Dunham
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: ZX11 For sale, Ft. Worth, Texas
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:03:38 GMT

Found on rec.moto

In article <moseley.138.724949979@u.washington.edu> moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:
>My brother is selling a '92 ZX11, only 550 miles on it. Price is
>$7,000. Call him at (817) 577-0714. Hurry, 'cause he's offering it to me for 
>less, and I don't know how long I can resist.
>
> - Steve
>__________________________________________________________________________
>Steve L. Moseley                                  moseley@u.washington.edu
>Microbiology SC-42                                Phone: (206) 543-2820
>University of Washington                          FAX:   (206) 543-8297
>Seattle, WA 98195


-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:02:11 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Distribution: tx
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

](BTW, Joe. Did you ever find out if any maps cover that section that we rode
]last time?)

not even The Roads of Texas covers those. that's where we're gonna 
send Pegs...

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@rider.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com

        mcad.dunham-frodo[ 10 ]%make witches\ burn
        Make:  Don't know how to make witches burn.  Stop.
     Ergo, it must be the wizards." -- Jerry Dunham
From: joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: AAahhhh, wipe-out!
Date: 28 Dec 92 04:11:31 GMT
Reply-To: joe@rider.cactus.org
Distribution: tx
Organization: NOT

don@xray.phys.uh.edu (Duck aka D. Harper) writes:
]We turn around and as we were coming up on the last curve before 1440, I had 
                                                ^^^^
don't you mean only? this is houston after all...

-- 
Joe Senner -- joe@Rider.Cactus.Org           aDoF#?                Austin, TX

    'When I asked Unix to make the witches burn I got:
         mcad.dunham-frodo[ 10 ]%make witches\ burn
         Make:  Don't know how to make witches burn.  Stop.
     Ergo, it must be the wizards.' -- Jerry Dunham
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Date: 22 Dec 1992 18:51:32 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: swrinde.nde.swri.edu

In article <3199@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@mpd.tandem.com writes:

>]got a bunch of DoF's doing the planning . . . I'd hate to get stuck
>]out in the middle of nowhere with a DoF who doesn't know where we're
>]going?? or why we're going . . at all??
>
>you'd hate to find yourself out in the hill country, on your motorcycle,
>with no set destination??? sick mark, really really sick...

Joe! Sheesh! Talk about me giving things away...

That's right folks. No need to bring maps for the next Splat. We've got
things well in hand... Trust Me...

(BTW, Joe. Did you ever find out if any maps cover that section that we rode
last time?)

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (will disavow any knowledge of me)
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
(DoF #)  : "Experience is what you get when you don't get what you want"
From: don@xray.phys.uh.edu (Duck aka D. Harper)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: AAahhhh, wipe-out!
Date: 28 Dec 92 01:49:44
Organization: Ducks R Us
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: xray.phys.uh.edu
In-reply-to: joe@rider.cactus.org's message of 28 Dec 92 04:11:31 GMT

In article <950@rider.UUCP> joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
  don@xray.phys.uh.edu (Duck aka D. Harper) writes:
  ]We turn around and as we were coming up on the last curve before 1440, I had
 						  ^^^^
  don't you mean only? this is houston after all...
  -- 
  Joe Senner -- joe@Rider.Cactus.Org           aDoF#?                Austin, TX


No...we found at least one road that would be fun to go blasting down...

Don
--
Don Harper  don@xray.phys.uh.edu
'82 XJ750RK	DoD # 0520		I didn't say it.
--
Don Harper  don@xray.phys.uh.edu
'82 XJ750RK	DoD # 0520		I didn't say it.
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer)
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Organization: Texas Instruments Information Technology Group    Plano TX
Distribution: tx
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:58:09 GMT

In article <3186@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@rider.cactus.org writes:
>
>email or post your thoughts...
>

If I have to make a run down 35 to get to the hill country, you bet your
ass I want to do some riding.  I mean you guys are all nice, and stuff like
that, but ...

As to length, (2,3,4 days) it depends if I go solo or take one of the boys.
I don't have any strong inputs on that right now.

Merry Christmas y'all.

oh, and I think Jody's bra would make an excellent door prize.  Has the fest
committee started bidding yet?

47 638 15 983 74 290 463 923 62 95 82 03 823 035 237 0359  
just some more random thoughts
-- 
Keith Schauer		Texas Instruments	Plain O, Texas
80 CB900 Custom		
DoD #0901		In an insane society, the sane man must appear insane.
			My company disavows any knowledge of my actions.
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Date: 22 Dec 1992 18:55:15 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: swrinde.nde.swri.edu

In article <1992Dec22.145809.17662@balrog.dseg.ti.com> keith@balrog.dseg.ti.com (Keith A. Schauer) writes:
>
>oh, and I think Jody's bra would make an excellent door prize.  Has the fest
>committee started bidding yet?

... Um ... Is Jody gonna donate it???

>47 638 15 983 74 290 463 923 62 95 82 03 823 035 237 0359  
>just some more random thoughts

Sheesh! Now Keith's giving away the road numbers...

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (will disavow any knowledge of me)
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
(DoF #)  : DoF Motto: Just Say "I Forgot".
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: bade@austin.ibm.com ()
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Originator: bade@athena2.austin.ibm.com
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:44:51 GMT
Distribution: tx
Reply-To: bade@wombat.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin TX             


In article <1h7o3kINNo7h@swrinde.nde.swri.edu>, kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
> That's right folks. No need to bring maps for the next Splat. We've got
> things well in hand... Trust Me...
				     ^^^^^^^^^
He's from the IRS
> 
> (BTW, Joe. Did you ever find out if any maps cover that section that we rode
> last time?)

Kent, you know very well that the private roads with the red-neck
shotgun holder at the end ain't on the map :-)...

Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
From: jfh@rpp386 (John F. Haugh II)
Subject: Re: AAahhhh, wipe-out!
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Organization: Los Tejanos SCUBA Club and Beer Joint, Austin, Tejas
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 01:34:56 GMT

In article <1i56asINNlqj@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
>This situation is one of the hardest for motorcyclists to learn to deal with
>properly. It does take practice. And you have to work on it pretty much
>always. The key words here were "I am drifting very fast to the outside".
>This is what everyone who goes through this experience says. (Even me)
>
>There are only two ways to deal with this situation:

I don't know that there are only two ways to approach this.  You =can=
slow down in a turn.  I do it by forcing the bike into a tighter turn
since the sensation I get is that the bike, when it is being braked,
is trying to straighten out the turn.  I read an article in some
magazine a few years back which explained the mechanics of "I am
drifting very fast to the outside ..." and as I recall, slowing down
tends to make the bike stand up straighter, which results in the bike
wanting to take a wider arc.  This agrees with my experience (and I
had plenty of it 4 years ago when I started riding again after a 4
year absence) - I'd lose confidence in a turn at highway speeds and
want to slow down.  I'd start "drifting very fast to the outside" and
then slow down more.  I nearly bought it on I-35E just outside of Dallas
that way once (first weekend trip in 4 years of not riding).

There was a caveat that at slower speeds or steaper lean angles that
this can become a vicious cycle - and then you are forced to give the
bike more gas to get it to not fall over to the inside.  In this case,
the article said that people react to "Oh no, I'm going to fall over"
in the same manner - they slow down.  But in those cases, you are
giving up certrifugal force that you don't have to spare.
-- 
John F. Haugh II                  [ PGP 2.1 ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: AAahhhh, wipe-out!
Date: 3 Jan 1993 05:49:10 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: swrinde.nde.swri.edu

In article <1993Jan3.013456.3149@rpp386> jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:
>In article <1i56asINNlqj@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
>>This situation is one of the hardest for motorcyclists to learn to deal with
>>properly. It does take practice. And you have to work on it pretty much
>>always. The key words here were "I am drifting very fast to the outside".
>>This is what everyone who goes through this experience says. (Even me)
>>
>>There are only two ways to deal with this situation:
>
>I don't know that there are only two ways to approach this.  You =can=

Yes, I was probably a bit too rigid here, but I would say that one needs to
learn to use technique #1 before attempting to slow down in a curve when one
is "pushing things".

Even if you do pick lines nicely and don't think you need to learn #1, please
consider when you might need to avoid a moving obstable such as the time I
cam around a corner and found a Corvette in my lane which had just 'lost
it'.  It was a left hander and I had to cut into his lane and back again real
quick.  I was pushing the corner as it was and really didn't think I was
going to pull this one off, but the bike handled better than I thought and I
kept on two wheels. If I hadn't been practicing, I wouldn't have had the time
to consider the maneuver. 

It was after this escapade that I learned my patented 'fast lane change'
wherein the front wheel comes off the ground due to torsional forces.

Unfortunately I can't make the PC perform this feat; yet :^)

Kent
From: don@xray.phys.uh.edu (Duck aka D. Harper)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: AAahhhh, wipe-out!
Date: 27 Dec 92 16:57:31
Organization: Ducks R Us
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: xray.phys.uh.edu

Well, since the mighty Zen-Master and his trusty PC went down, I do not feel so
bad about having to post this.

Mark "What Double Yellow Lines?" Parsons and I went out riding north west of
town today.  The weather is over cast.

Anywho, we were taking some side road off FM 1440 which turned into a dead end.
We turn around and as we were coming up on the last curve before 1440, I had 
a PROBLEM.  Mark whips his bike through this nice sweeper at about 70, but I
hang back a bit cause I don't like the way my tires were gripping.  The next
thing I know, I am drifting very fast to the outside, and I try to slow down.
Then comes the ditch.  I don't remember much from here, but it looks like the 
back wheel broke loose as there were two sets of skid marks in the ditch.

I managed to keep it upright for about 30 feet or so before it decides it wants
to go down on the left side and play plow.

Net damage after inital on-site lookover:  Crash Bar bent, headlight case
cracked, headlight mount bent, speedo cable removed from non-working speedo,
dash bent back.

I think I can fix all but the cracked case, but it is a small tear in the
plastic casing, so no biggie and the speedo cable.  

Anyone know where I can find a new dash for an '82 Maxim? :-)


Don "Mud Plow" Harper

ps- I just got dirty...no damage to the rider.

--
Don Harper  don@xray.phys.uh.edu
'82 XJ750RK	DoD # 0520		I didn't say it.
--
Don Harper  don@xray.phys.uh.edu
'82 XJ750RK	DoD # 0520		I didn't say it.
From: jc@underg.ucf.org (Mike Herman)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 20:59:27 CST
Organization: Underground Computing Foundation

HI, Im new to tx and am located in austin.

Have a bike, a 78 Yamaha 750 triple

I would like to know of any good/bad dealers
and junkyards in the area.  Also aftermarket shops,
and any mechanics that dont charge as much as dealers.

I am also looking for other bikers in the area
and events ......

send e mail thats the best way to get me.

JC
DoD# 0746

--
jc@underg.ucf.org (Mike Herman)
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:25:37 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1h7o3kINNo7h@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
>
>That's right folks. No need to bring maps for the next Splat. We've got
>things well in hand... Trust Me...

Last time I heard that was my first year at Boy Scout summer camp when some
of the older guys took us on a snipe hunt...


-- 
Ray Shea                                      
UniSQL, Inc.                             Sometimes I feel like a blue dog.
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu                                     -- The Blue Dog
DoD #0372 -- Team Twinkie -- '88 Hawk NT650
From: kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: opinion poll, splatterfest 5
Date: 22 Dec 1992 18:45:25 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: swrinde.nde.swri.edu

In article <3196@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@mpd.tandem.com writes:
>]So, I can exist without memory as you know it. I just take a little longer
[...]
>]That's why I can GO faster than Joe on unforetravelled roads :^) :^)
>
>careful now, you wouldn't want me to bring up that little crash of yours
>on that unforetravelled road would you??? :::-O

What crash? I don't remember any crash.  I know good and well that if I had
crashed, I would have seen lots of trashed tractor parts lying all around my
garage when I climbed on to go ride the next morning, and I didn't.

Therefore you and Brakes musta just made up that story. Probably did it to
make me slow down. Right?

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (will disavow any knowledge of me)
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
(DoF #)  : Eternal bliss can be obtained anywhere with a memory like mine.
Newsgroups: tx.test
From: bill@leeweyr.sccsi.com (Bill Lee)
Subject: More Testing....
Organization: Lee Aerie
Distribution: tx
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 23:34:52 GMT


This is a test. If you see it, please e-mail back to me.

Thanks.

Bill Lee
From: markw@zeus.wg.waii.com (Mark Whetzel)
Newsgroups: tx.test
Subject: another test
Date: 28 Dec 92 23:34:55 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Western Geo. - Div of Western Atlas Intn'l Inc., Houston, TX
Originator: markw@zeus.wg.waii.com

Test posting with TX dist..

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A Litton/Dresser Company           DOMAIN addr: markw@zeus.wg.waii.com
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From: jct@se33.wg2.waii.com (Jim Thompson)
Newsgroups: tx.test
Subject: Please ack
Date: 29 Dec 92 12:54:47 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Acme Anvil Co.
NNTP-Posting-Host: se33.wg2.waii.com

Testing new nntp-server.
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    \(     Houston, Texas                \/__/
From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Social Security
Date: 1 Jan 93 05:08:03 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Novell, Inc. --Austin

In article <1992Dec31.224142.11137@rpp386> jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:
>Watch -
>
>In:	$55,000/yr * 13% * 47 years = $336,050
>Out:	$16,800/yr * 8 years = $134,400
>
>Yes, those evil "rich" Social Security recipients are ripping off the
>system.

John,

The SS rate hasn't been 13% for the last 47 years.  What did it start
at, some fraction of 1%?  And it's been going up since...  (it's now
15.65%).

Brendan
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