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From: loose@quake.sylmar.ca.us (loose_connection)
Subject: Should the Dead cancel Denver shows?
Organization: Quake Public Access, Sylmar CA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:44:08 GMT

In light of the repeal of Ammendment 2 in Colorado, there are calls
for a boycott...while undoubtedly there is a pent demand for these
shows, maybe the boys ought to send a clear message to the people
of Colorado that they are in solidarity with our gay friends who
are being denied their civil rights in this state.

With these upcoming shows, what kind of message can be sent?

What do you all think?
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Your worst Nightmare
Date: 12 Nov 1992 09:10:17 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
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In article <1dtnmbINNjke@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright) writes:
>
>In a previous article, bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore) says:
>
>>
>>
>>I don't care about private mailing lists. I do care
>>about gossip behind people's backs. It hurts people
>>and causes people to form all kinds of opinions.
>
>Reminds me of other purifications experiments gone wrong.
>>
>>Bill
>
>>PS I have a list of wheelies. I will not post
>>it. If I *were* unstable, God knows what I'd do! :-)
>
>I am crazy, a loose cannon or whatever you want to call me and I have one too
>
>*:-S
  well, just for the record, i have one, too.  in fact, i'd imagine
at this point that there are more people with wheel lists than there
are people ON the wheel list.

  i'm glad that nobody's posted this list, i've regretted calling
for somebody to do that; my faith was a little (?) bit shaken by
this controversy, but the solution to that is not 'outing' people.
this will all work itself out in time.

  i sincerely do think that any wheelies who can bring themselves to
do it might consider publicly posting 'their side' of the story ...
many of them are concerned about presenting their version but don't
want to be bombarded by hate mail.  i say that with as many people
having the list as do, they're going to be bombarded anyway, if
that's meant to happen.

 i find it rather ironic that the people who probably have been hurt
the most by this are the wheelies themselves.  kinda backfired,
didn't it?

>--
>*************************************************************************
>*   Rich Wainwright               All my politically incorrect posts    *
>*   BG377@cleveland.freenet.edu   are forgeries written by someone else *
>*************************************************************************

just another escapee from an asylum :)

lara
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From: kolar@spot.Colorado.EDU (Jennifer Lynn Kolar)
Subject: Trade for McNichols Taper ticket
Summary: Trade for mcnichols first night
Keywords: trade, taper
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 04:03:56 GMT

Hi, my house-mate asked me to post this for him. He has a 5th row taping 
ticket for the first and second night that he wishes to trade for a pair
for each night anywhere inside. He doesn't care WHERE the seats are, just
that he and his girlfriend can see the shows. Apparently, she is driving all
the way from SC without tickets, and is bumming really hard. (Who isnt).
So, if anyone is able or interested, then call us at (303) 443-4510, ask
for Jeff or Tom, or reply by email to kolar@spot.colorado.edu

-Cassidy

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From: lstein@adobe.com (Larry Stein)
Subject: Re: Better DEAD than a DEADHEAD!
Followup-To: rec.music.gdead
Organization: Adobe Systems
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:48:29 GMT

In article <1dc7e9INNhn0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu
(Joseph Hack) wrote:
> 
> 
    (diatribe deleted)

    Gee, do you have an English 1A composition due tomorrow?

    Today's college students...I didn't know they could provide
        such amusement...

    --larry     <%-O
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Hey all..
Date: 12 Nov 1992 08:55:24 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <m07ZTB1w164w@admiral.uucp>,
drlecter@admiral.uucp (Ackbar Rajapurus) writes:
>
> Sorry to waste bandwidth.. but...
>         I know there are alot of super collector\taper\demigods out
>there.. I know of one who offered people with small collections to dub,
>and charged only $4 for blanks.. I was wondering if anyone has a few
>addresses of such traders or (how should i say it..) tape sellers? If you
>have succesfully bought tapes from someone, drop me a line?
>      and to save space, just mail me.. and no diatribes against the
>evils of capitalism!
  well, dr. lecter, will we be having you for dinner :):):9

people shouldn't be selling the tapes, and you should not support
them by purchasing them.  good traders/tapers frequently will simply
trade you a blank for a show tape.  this is not a diatribe against
capitalism, just a statement of what happens greater than 90% of the
time.  $4 isn't much, but the principle of the issue is ... :)

>
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lara
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From: gallo@hunk.asel.udel.edu (Andy Gallo)
Subject: Re: Should the Dead cancel Denver shows?
Organization: AI duPont Institute
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:11:05 GMT

In article <0Ng2TB2w165w@quake.sylmar.ca.us> loose@quake.sylmar.ca.us (loose_connection) writes:
>In light of the repeal of Ammendment 2 in Colorado, there are calls
>for a boycott...while undoubtedly there is a pent demand for these
>shows, maybe the boys ought to send a clear message to the people
>of Colorado that they are in solidarity with our gay friends who
>are being denied their civil rights in this state.

	I think that if the Dead, or any group for that matter,
stopped performing in areas where people's civil liberties were being
violated, there would be no live music left in America.

>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<
> Andy Gallo   | gallo@asel.udel.edu  | U. of Delaware/Applied Sci & Eng Labs <
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------<
From: nedwall@panix.com (Ned Wall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: HELP... ID 2/20/71 ? VENUE UNKNOWN
Date: 7 Nov 92 03:43:36 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

According to DeadBase VI, the show is from the Capitol
Theater in Port Chester, NY. Second set is: Truckin',
Loser, Next Time You See Me, Greatest Story Ever Told>
Johnny B. Goode, Ripple, Not Fade Away>Going Down..>
Not Fade Away>Lovelight. 

It was an E.S.P. show with NRPS. I've never heard the
tape, but it sounds good.

Ned
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: ORTSAC <castro@alm.admin.usfca.edu>
Subject: Comes a Time
Reply-To: castro@alm.admin.usfca.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:57:47 GMT

One of my favorite tunes, always brings tear to my eye.
What are the best live versions?

Can anyone mail me the lyrics and chords?

Thanks,
JC
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From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu (Todd Brown)
Subject: Re: Neil Diamond Tour
Organization: National Solar Observatory/SP, Sunspot NM, USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:53:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.221125.9691@EE.Stanford.EDU> bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore) writes:
>
>Hey, does anyone know if Neil is going to swing
>back through the Bay Area for a stadium tour,
>you know, a la U2?
>
>Bill
>
>PS Jimmy, please let us know more about your
>tour with Neil. Really. Send me e-mail if
>you'd like more info on the Diamondbacks.
>
>Is there a harmonic convergence goin' on or somethin'?

Hey! Must be Bill, I see here that Neil Diamonds Greatest Hits-Live
will be on HBO Saturday.     

Damn get those VCR cleaned and ready all you Diamondbacks!

Disclaimer: Sure beats the HACKMAN:-)
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>brown@sunspot.sunspot.noao.edu  /|\             :-) :-) :-)        <
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From: mc@vicorp.com (Mark Charalambous)
Subject: Re: Miles Davis and the Dead
Organization: V. I. Corporation, Northampton, Massachusetts
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:10:03 GMT

andrew@marie.physik.tu-berlin.de (Andrew Shields) writes:

>In <germuska.720757496@moo.acns.nwu.edu> j-germuska@nwu.edu (Joe Germuska) writes:
>> Miles Davis and the Grateful Dead at the Fillmore West.  
>> April 9,10,11,12. 

>The year was 1971.  There's a discussion of this in David Gans' book
>"Playing in the Band" -- great stories about this from Bill G. and
>from Phil, who was embarrassed to play after Miles.  Spring '71
>the band would have been (guessing) John McLaughlin (gtr), 
>Steve Grossman (sax), Keith Jarrett (kbds), Dave Holland (bass),
>and Jack DeJohnette (drums) -- one of the lineups on Miles' "Live/Evil".

No, it must have been 1970. The Dead were on the east coast in April 71.
I know because I saw 'em!

BTW, for anyone interested in hearing some astonishing kick-ass jams,
pick up Miles' "Bitches Brew". This album (and it's predecesor "In a Silent
Way") turned the jazz nad rock worls upside down. The guitarist with Miles
at the time was John McLaughlin. I was just one of thousands of other 
white middle class kids who discovered jazz at this time. On Bitches Brew
Miles uses three (!!!) electric pianos and two drummers on some cuts.
This is electric "head" music of the first order. "Spanish Key" is a track
that is perhaps more "accesible" than some of the others. It really trucks.
Great guitar solo by McLaughlin. And I still get shivers when I hear the
opening strains of the title track ("Bitches Brew").

"In a Silent Way" has one tune on each side. The track "Shhh Peaceful"
is the winner. It has a really spacey feel to it. The band was more typical
in the sense of instrumentation. But the personnel of Miles' band at this
time (as is true troughout his career, really) reads like a Who's Who:
Joe Zawinal, Chick Corea, Jack DeJonette, McLaughlin, Herbie Hancock,
Wayne Shorter. Actually, Weather Report grew directly from the Bitches
Brew ensemble. The beginnings of (at least one definition of) "fusion".

(apologies for the numerous typos...)

---Mark

>Anybody know for sure who was playing with MD those nights?

>More importantly, I second the call for tapes!

>Andrew
From: vosshall@Apple.COM (Pete Vosshall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Oakland Shows
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:23:11 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <1992Nov5.165231.5589@vestek.com> marcus@vestek.com (Mark Stephen) writes:
>
>     Well, due to a backed up server, I did not get any of this info until
>today, Nov. 5th. So I missed the mail order. I called the hotline and they
>made no mention of tix for the Oakland shows being sold at BASS ? Will
>they be available at the ticket agency also ???
>
>     Marcus

If there are any left after the mail order is over, tickets will be
available from BASS starting Nov. 22. At least that's what the East
Coast hotline is claiming.

Hoping the mail order gods will be kind to me...

	Pete

-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
* Pete Vosshall         |INTERNET: vosshall@apple.com  | "So maybe I could be *
* Collaborative Systems |VOICE:    (408) 720-1664  home| a fly...and feed an  *
* Apple Computer, Inc.  |          (408) 862-5418  work| arachnid as I die"   *
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: kauff@neit.cgd.ucar.edu (Brian Kauffman)
Subject: Re: Better DEAD than HACK!
Organization: Boulder CO
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:57:16 GMT

> = bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack) writes:
>
> [...]  These people are misfits, folks.  They should be herded up and
>kept a safe distance from modern civilization. [...]
>May the new drug war begin with the Deadheads.  They are responsible for
>all the real problems in this country today.

<yawn>...what a loser.  Are you really this starved for attention?
Why do you mosy over to comp.lang.fortran and do a FORTRAN-sucks diatribe?
How about doing a rush-sucks post on rec.music.rush?
Or maybe you could organize a nazi march through Skokie.
Jeepers, there's so many really neat things to do.
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From: Phydeaux <reb@ingres.com>
Subject: re: Compton ticket scam
Reply-To: reb@ingres.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 00:11:38 GMT

I think there are only 2000 reserved  seats in the  place, so  it's no
wonder they sold  out instantly.  Couple the low  number with the fact
that a  few   hundred were probably  reserved    for  the band,  radio
stations, and probably some scalpers ;-(
						reb
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From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
Subject: What A WOnderful WOrld
Reply-To: sjeck@isi.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 05:04:40 GMT


Louis Armstrong had a hit with this song in 1968.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: cassette label program found
From: <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:46:32 EST
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

I used to be a Macintosh person.  Now-a-days, I'm an IBM person, not by
choice :-(.  With the Macintosh I used to use a program called Filemaker
Pro.  It was a pretty simple database, kind of like a filing program.
But, it had all these alternate views for the data which you have there.
One of the views I had, created my tapelist.  One of these views was a
data entry screen.  It had all the info you ever wanted, Gen, Source, Who
I got it from, notes about filler etc.  One of the views was a tape label.
So that when you print it out,  you get your tape label.

In the IBM world, there doesn't yet seem to be a product quite like Filemaker
Pro.  If anybody here works for Claris, Forward my posting to marketing,
Please :-).  What I do, Using Microsoft Windows and MS Powerpoint, is create
my tape labels in here.  There really is no 'database' use of it, as I can
see right now.  But theres lots of drawing tools, so you can make boxes
etc.  They work, but I miss the Macintosh environment as far as the Dead
stuff goes!  Well, I would be interested in hearing what other folks in
this IBM/Windows Environment are doing to make tape labels these days.  I
personally have gotten pretty far out of tape trading these days, but
that doesn't mean I'm not interested in learning more :-).

Joe Doheny
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: desperately seeking tix
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 18:21:07 GMT

In article <Bx90D1.Bvo@inews.Intel.COM> janderso@procyon.UUCP (Jim Anderson) writes:
>=>Two of us tried all morning to get tix to the Denver dec 2/3 show and were
>=>disappointed.We really are desperate. If any kind soul has two spare tix
>
>Desperate is what you are when you have no job, five hungry kids to feed,
>you've just been kicked out onto the street with no place to go except
>(if you're lucky) an old Ford station wagon.

Aw, Jim-dude, lighten up! It's just a word: "desperate"
I know I'm real psyched about the Oakland shows, and
will be looking hard for tix if I get shut out. Sure, it's a minor
problem, fer sure. And I guess it's true that heads can get
way too serious about the Dead... but maybe desperate just
means "reeeally want to go". Guess it pushed your button,
though :-)

Bill
>
>There.  I feel better now.

Well, OK then :-)
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Neil Diamond and the Diamondbacks
Date: 9 Nov 1992 15:11:54 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1992Nov9.194305.1299@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>,
root@evergreen.com writes:
>Who/what are/is "Neil Diamond and the Diamondbacks"?

Oh no. (TM bill moore :)

>-jimmy

lara
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From: bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: small wheel turn by the fire and rod
Date: 10 Nov 1992 20:52:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore) says:

>
>BIG wheel turn by the grace of God
>

If the thunder don't get "THEM" then the lightning will!

-- 
*************************************************************************
*   Rich Wainwright               All my politically incorrect posts    *
*   BG377@cleveland.freenet.edu   are forgeries written by someone else * 
*************************************************************************
From: CXF111@psuvm.psu.edu (Charles Fee)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: State College, PA '79 ? (Tape grovel..)
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:03:32 GMT
Organization: The Syd Barrett Appreciation Society
X-Mac-Bust:   The Best Way To accelerate a Macintoy is at 9.8m/s^2

A friend of mine is looking for a decent tape of the boyz from State College
(PennState) in '79. I know nothing about this show, and she doesn't have net
access. From what I've been told, there's a good/great Shakedown Street. She's
really interested in this tape. It wasn't it the 'best tapes' section of the
FAQ, and my DeadBase isn't here yet :-(

If you know of this show, or better yet, have a tape of it, drop me a line.
My collection isn't very big, but I may have something you'll like. :-)

---
Charles A. Fee                            Support the Police..
cxf111@psuvm.psu.edu                      Beat Yourself Up
                                                 ---Beaker's Friend
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Bill Sloan <wls1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: The Joe Hack Situation
X-Xxdate: Wed, 11 Nov 92 11: 40:25 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: wls1@cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:28:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.092215.24308@lclark.edu> Matthew Hall,
hall@lclark.edu writes:
>
>	Please dont dominate the rap, Jack
>
>
>		If you got nothin' new to say.
>
>
>			If you please, lighten up the track,
>
>
>				  This train's got to run today.

One way or another
This darkness has gotta give
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Sheila Momaney <sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.EDU>
Subject: I'm back
Reply-To: sheila_momaney@rad-mac1.ucsf.EDU
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:37:19 GMT

GatorMail-Q                   I'm back
Hey everybody,
I'm so happy to be back on the net after my
sudden absence!  I've spent the last two months
recuperating amidst the foliage of Vermont.
As some of you know, I had a miserable bus-bike
accident in Berkeley on Labor Day weekend (sadness).
Now I'm a walking hardware store of steel plates and pins 
but at least I'm a *walking* hardware store,
so I know that I can dance...
I want to thank all of you who sent messages;
even though I've never met most of you in real life
it was good to know that you were out there sending
good vibes my way.  
I guess I'll be begging for Oakland tickets soon
since I wasn't able to get out of the Vermont hills
to mail order.  I hope you'll all be kind then, too!!
(now that was a little pre-begging buttering!)
Cheers and thanks!
sheila
From: max@hitl.washington.edu (Max Minkoff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Bound to cover just a little more ground
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:54:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: frabjous.MAX.92Nov12125440
Distribution: usa
Organization: /home/max/.organization


In article <1du2q1INNsb4@morrow.stanford.edu> EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:

   this
   issue has become rather difficult to wrestle with because there are
   so many facets of it.

   (two choices deleted: give up and leave, or stay and help make it work)

   if we don't
   like something, we should seek to change it, not merely abandon it
   because it's too much work to do otherwise.


Nicely put.  To me, the important thing is to get this all into the open
so that we can understand it and learn from it, rather than just ignore
it and let it blow over (as both wheel.folk and DICKS and DACKS alike have 
suggested).  Don't bury this!  Ignorance hurts us all!

And again, if this is such a good idea, why hasn't any wheel.folk 
stepped forward and defended it?  Why hasn't anyone even _admitted_
it?  Why do some of them continue to get whatever they can from the
net (as recently as right now!), asking questions, getting information,
but when it comes time to sell a ticket, we're all DICKS and DACKS that
the person doesn't want to be bothered by?  Why aren't all the wheelies
asking themselves if they're so proud and happy about what they have,
why they can't stand up and defend themselves?  And I'm talking about
people who have had _no_ hesitation before sharing their opinions in 
the past.

Let's talk about it!  I'm dying for an open discussion before this just
turns into another hate-fest (which I won't join, btw).

Where are you, wheelies?

Max
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bsmorris@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (brett simitzis morris)
Subject: 10.31.92 tree request
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:35:18 GMT

Being the idiot that I am, I lost the address to send this to.  Could someone
send it to me?
			Thanks,
			brett
From: sowa@netcom.com (Erik Sowa)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: New Year's Run 1982
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:05:25 GMT
	<1992Nov10.001600.22331@u.washington.edu>
Organization: Wahoo 5

>>>>> "Paul" == Paul Kemp <pkemp@byron.u.washington.edu> writes:

Paul> Dead do.  It was pretty hilarious, Etta was pretty looped and she
Paul> kept staggering around, pushing Bobby away from the mic and
Paul> yelling "The Greatful Dead, the greatest blues band in the world!"
                                      ^^^^^^^
                                        |
"baddest"================================

"Man, you cats working tonight!"

Yum, yum. Can you believe that people were flaming the horns after that
show? "I paid to hear Jerry, not some big bad woman with horns." Idiots.

-- 
Erik Sowa (sowa@netcom.com)