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From: birge@guerciotti.EBay.Sun.COM (John Birge)
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Subject: Re: Sexuality
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Loren I. Petrich Writes:

-public school sex-ed report.  Here it is.
-
-	Where did you get it from?
-
-	Do you have course outlines or surreptitious tape recordings
-that prove that the things discussed below are typical?
-
-	And how many school systems did you survey.
-
-	How many libraries did you check out? Did you make a tally of
-which ones had which books, and see how common various books were?


Get real Loren this is the NET. Expecting a biliography with each
post is not only absurd but would prove incredibly boring.

Loren continues:

-	If you think that objectionable, then please explain how
-people are *supposed* to learn how to have sex. I see no more
-objection to that than instructions on how to drive a car.

However many people in this country do find it objectionable. And while
it seems harmless  to you others believe that it is not within the scope
of the Public School System to desiminate this info. Just like many feel 
that religion should remain outside of the public system.

One question I would ask you is how many chidren have you put through
the public school system? Are you the product of a public education?
The reason I ask is that I was wondering if you've ever had the 
experience of having your child bring up a subject that caught you 
completely by suprise. 

As an example my daughter and I were once having a conversation regarding
birth control (I believe she was in seventh grade). She mentioned something
to the effect that Anal Sex was used as a method of birth control by some.
This of course startled me. I asked what she thought of that and she responded
that it seemed gross. I further explored the subject and found that the only
thing she really understood was that some people used Anal Sex as a method
of birth control. 

Now what did I find objectional about this?

First:
She was not educated about the various impact of this behavior. I went to 
the school and reviewed the lesson plan. It seems that in fact what they were
teaching was that Anal Sex was not a viable form of birth control (possible
seman seepage ;^>). However that is not what my daughter had learned. In fact 
she walked away with the opposite impression. Thankfully my daughter and I 
have a close relationship and we were able to have conversations about the 
subject.

Second:
I was not informed that this was even going on. It was a special course that
an outside contractor presented over a two day period in her PE class. When 
I questioned this and demanded more information I was treated like some kind
of trouble maker.

So what is the point I'm making?

Basically the Public Schools are generally incompetent and have a difficult
enough time teaching the 3 R's. Bad information is worse than no information.
I can only think of one teacher that my daughter had in her twelve years in
public schools that I would trust to present information in this regard. 

With 2 decades of Sex Education in the Public Systems what are the results?

1) STD's have reached epidemic levels.

2) Teen pregnancies have continued to increase.

3) A Million + Abortions every year.

4) AIDS.

5) Single mothers now have the distinction of being the largest block
   of families living under the poverty line.

However like all gov'ment programs demands for more funding are the response to failure. If you acknowledge a programs failure your likely out of a job,
bureacracy at it's best.


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