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From: jordan@castor (USENET's Chuck)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: ILM is for amateurs
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:01:06 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia
X-Coolibmcutdown: IBM users are big doodyheads!

>    YOU KNOW, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH FAITH EVERYONE IN THIS GROUP PLACES IN
>GEORGE LUCAS' ILM. WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS. I MEAN C'MON, WHO CAN'T DO STOP GO
>ANIMATION NOWADAYS. AND AS FAR AS A NEW STAR WARS MOVIE WITH NEW EFFECTS, HE
>BETTER CAN IT NOW. STAR WARS WILL NEVER MATCH UP TO STAR TREK'S FIRST SEASON
>OF FX.
>					- MANG

YOU KNOW, YOUR ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.  GEORGE LUCAS' ILM REALLY SUCKS BIG DONKEY
WANGS.  THEY ARE ALL ILLEGITEMATE SNOTTY-NOSED PANTY-WAISTS WHO COULDN'T
MORPH THERE WAY OUT OF A PAPER BAG.  I MEAN, I COULD DO  STOP GO ANIMATION
AND ROOTOSCOPING AND GO-STOP ANIMATION AND IMAGE RENDERING ON MY TIMEX
SINCLAIR.  IN FACT, I ONCE PRODUCED AN ACTION-PACKED THRILL RIDE SIMILAR TO
THAT LAME-O STAR TOURS RIDE WITH ONLY MY COMMODORE 64 AND MY WITS TO GUIDE
ME.  AND BELIEVE ME I KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT BECAUSE I KNOW ABOUT ALL
THE COOL FX STUDIOS AND YOU BET I HAVE A BLUE SCREEN IN MY BEDROOM AND EVERY-
THING.
	AND ALL OF YOU ARE WRONG ABOUT STAR WARS AND T2 BEING SO COOL AND
LIKING IT BECAUSE YOU CAN CAN IT.  IF YOU THINK THAT ANY OF THAT GEORGE
LUCAS STUFF IS ANYWHERE NEAR AS COOL AS THE OLD LOST IN SPACE OR SUPERCAR
SECOND SEASON, THEN YOU OBVIOUSLY DONT KNOW WHAT YOUR TALKING ABOUT.

					- TANG


-- 
                  Chuck Jordan | jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu
SPY Magazine's 1,000 Reasons Not to Vote for George Bush:
NO 964: The president wants to spend $1,000 per person for defense in
	fiscal 1993.
From: jseaver@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Interesting Fact on G. Lucas
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:12:07 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <ESCHNEID.92Oct3210831@sparc53.tamu.edu> eschneid@sparc53.tamu.edu (Erich R Schneider) writes:
>In article <92277.122904EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu> Young Indy <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>Well, while I was shopping yesterday, I saw the new book out about
>>Lucas' first twenty years in the film industry. To make a long story
>>short, I read something that really shocked me.  There was a quote of
>>Lucas' that more or less said the following:
>>
>>(paraphrased, obviously)  That working on Young Indiana Jones is the most
>>fun he has had since working on 'Raiders'.
>>
>>Wow. I guess that sums up RotJ real fast as far as Lucas is concerned?
>>Comments??
>
>Did Lucas direct _Raiders ..._? I believe his involvement with _TESB_
>and _ROTJ_ was limited to executive producer; he certainly did not
>direct or write the story for either one (except in the limited sense
>that some of the concepts for _ROTJ_ appear in the initial drafts of
>_SW_).

	I think Spielberg directed _Raiders of the Lost Ark_; and though Lucas
only had minimal involvement in _TESB_, I think he wrote the story and col-
laborated on the screenplay for _ROTJ_.

>Maybe now he's the director for a project he really enjoys; this is 
>probably more fun than being the executive producer for the sequels
>to a movie which really burned him out.

	Lucas hasn't been directing _YIJC_, but has been cranking out stories
for someone else to put into screenplay form.  Aside from that, he's just been
Executive Producing Young Indy.  However, he has been traveling with the show
and having a great deal of fun writing for it - more so than for _ROTJ_; he
probably just wanted to get the series over with by then.

					-Jay
From: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: ARCHIVE SITE growing by the minute
Date: 29 Sep 1992 13:30:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bc751@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Howard Z. Shiau)
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In a previous article, ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) says:

>Well the archive site isn't even 12 hours old yet and there are
>many things there already. I just updated everything, so check it
>out. And thanks all who have add material...
>
>
>-- 
>                        Scott Streeter
>                        ss@wpi.wpi.edu
>
I guess this may be a stupid question but how do I get stuff from
the site?

Howard
-- 
Howard Shiau                       bc751@cleveland.freenet.edu
Cosyde Corporation
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 13:35:03 EDT
From: <BNB101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: No more movies?

    I read an article in the march 1992 issue of Cinematastique entitled
'Where's Star Wars 4'.  It told of how Lucas approached Joe Johnson and asked
him to direct the next movie.  Mr. Johnson insisted he get to do all three in
sequence at the same time to cut costs.  Lucas agreed and preproduction was
started.  But all of a sudden, Lucas told everyone to go home and the project
was aborted.  Lucas was quoted as saying,"I'm bored with Star Wars I want to do
something new."  The article got nasty afterwards, commenting on Lucas' penny
pinching style of business.  It concluded by saying the closest we'll get to
another movie is to read the Zahn novels and Dark Horse comics.
     I was heartbroken to find all this out, I pray its not true.

                                              Brandon.
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From: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Subject: Re: Vaders death
Originator: gamg6900@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 05:56:32 GMT

jbell@mihi.une.edu.au (Master of Puppets) writes:

>Umm, why exactly DID Vader die????
>Luke withstood MUCH more than Vader from the emporer
>whats the story?

As I mentioned previously in my post describing the Jedi script (am I the
only one who tries to read carefully?), Vader dies from a combination of:
1) the battering he takes from Luke
2) the tremendous physical effort needed to throw the Emperor into the shaft
3) the Emperor's lightning that strikes Vader

						Greg Martin
						g-martin1@uiuc.edu
From: gretchen@cco.caltech.edu (Gretchen Millendore)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Bugs on Broadway
Date: 1 Oct 1992 02:16:33 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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I'm not sure this is appropriate for this group, but I got a real kick out
seeing George Lucas wish Chuck Jones, great Warner Brothers director, a
happy 80th birthday a couple of weeks ago at the Hollywood Bowl.  Actually,
it was a video-tape interview with Lucas...he ended his wish with an 'And
May the Force Be With You', followed by huge cheers from the crowd!  :)
Damn Star Wars lovers lurking everywhere!

Gretch
gretchen@ugcs.caltech.edu
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars Miniseries from Dark Horse Comics
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:31:20 GMT
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Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Sep27.160544.8748@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> tmw4r@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Thomas Munroe Walsh) writes:
>In article <92270.224713DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>>ter and did some interesting stuff with him, using the way Jabba appeared in
>>the comic version of the SW film, i.e. yellow-skinned, whiskered humanoid.
>>Again, a gaffe, though: as a result of one of the stories, Jabba renounced
>>the price on Solo's head. Oh well. The whole Pariah/ Shira Brie storyline was
>
>Since Lucasfilm had to have approved the script, they probably allowed that
>part of the story only if Marvel promised to undo it before the start of the
>Empire adaptation, which is what they did in an epilogue of the second to 
>last issue before Empire.

I don't know.  The way it went down in the issues makes it seem like
Marvel planned on getting rid of Han's debt, and then found out that
it was crucial to Empire Strikes Back, so they added it in as a last-
minute thing.  I think it was rather contrived the way Jabba reinstated
the debt, especially after they devoted a whole issue to Han clearing
the debt.  Of course, with the form of Jabba they used, I suppose
neither of them can be considered canon anyway.  *Sigh*

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
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From: kdontas@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Chris Eccleston)
Subject: Re: Yoda's Conversation
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 15:50:45 GMT

In article <1a7c36INN2oo@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mmartin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew Wayne Martin) writes:
>
>	I'm pretty sure Yoda says (in ESB) " For 800 years have I trained Jedi,
>My own council will I seek as to who is to be trained."  It's been awhile since
>I last saw ESB, so I don't know if this is exact.

	How about:

	"For 800 years have I trained Jedi, my own counsel
will I keep on who is to be trained."

	CAGE

Organization: Freshman, CIT general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
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Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:04:09 -0400 
From: "Nathanel J. Barlow" <nb2b+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: THE BOOK OF SCROLLS

Someone recently told me (without any details) that there was a book by
George Lucas called "The Book of Scrolls".  Could someone please tell me
what htis is?

Nate
e-mail:  nb2b+@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: plebeau@cix.compulink.co.uk (Paul Lebeau)
Subject: Zorba the Hutt's... Fat, Slimy & Ugly
Reply-To: plebeau@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:36:00 +0000

In article <1992Sep27.130207.5483@gw.wmich.edu>,
x91smathers@gw.wmich.edu writes:
> I posted a message earlier about the new Star Wars
> children's books, and I'm curious to know if anyone else
> had discovered and read them.

Yes, I've read 'Zorba the Hutt's Revenge'.  I found it in a
bookstore, they only had this one (#3) but claim to be
getting the others. I found ZTHR amusing enough to get the
others I suppose.  I'm prepared to read anything thats got
the SW logo on it.

The books centre around a twelve-year-old Jedi 'prince'
called Ken.  They're actually quite funny as long as you
don't get offended by the inaccuracies and simplifications. 
They are written for kids after all!

The bits I liked best were Luke and Ken buying a
housekeeping droid called Kate (KT-18) for Han!  Also
alcohol doesn't appear to exist in this particular galaxy -
everyone drinks something called Zoochberry juice!  Yum yum.

BTW - have you heard that they're making a film of Zorba the
Hutt's Revenge!  Jabba's father Zorba is to be played by
Anthony Quinn. He throws plates at his enemies.

-=*=-

You may have read an earlier posting by me suggesting the
formation of a net SW bible. Well, it's starting to take
form on my hard disk.  I'm starting by listing just about
every interesting noun I can find in the SW book and script. 
The intention is to flesh it out once that first stage is
completed.  References from ESB & ROTJ will be added later
probably.

However, I don't have the time or the inclination to do the
WHOLE job myself!  I have only seen one posting of support
for this idea, (from Mike Weintraub [thanks Mike]).  So if
there are people out there who are willing to help
contribute then start posting your supports otherwise this
idea will probably disappear into the round filing cabinet!

Also suggestions for a suitable format for the data would be
useful (there might one day be a online reader for the
bible!).  My current thought is something along the lines of
the Hitchhikers Guide project maybe.

-=*=-

Also complements to Julie Lim - great story Julie! I've got
a title for you - 'The Confusion of Anakin' !



Paul LeBeau                      o
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From: bender@riscee.pko.dec.com (Patricia Bender)
Subject: misc. 
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:53:56 GMT


I watched the trilogy again this weekend and had a few comments/
questions.

James Earl Jones was listed in the credits of ROTJ, but not TESB
or SW.  Is there any official reason why he was ROTJ, but not TESB?
I can understand not listing his name in SW, but am slightly confused
about listing it in ROTJ but not TESB.  After the success of SW, you'd
think that JEJ (fun with acronyms, FWA) would get credit in TESB.

When Vader confronts Luke in TESB, he comments that Obi-Wan taught Luke
well.  I can understand this as Vader did not know how long Ben had
instructed Luke before Vader killed Ben.  Then, in ROTJ, Vader again
comments on Ben's training of Luke and mentions how improved he is.  Now,
wait a minute.  Ben is dead.  Vader knows that Ben is dead.  Why would
Vader assume that Ben was still teaching Luke?  Is it common knowledge
that the ghosts of past jedi hang around?  And, if so, why aren't there
other jedi ghost floating around?  I mean, hey, they can spy on the Empire
and pass information to the Alliance.  Okay, I'm getting carried away.  
But the comment did strike me as ... wrongish.  Obviously, Vader had no
knowledge about Yoda.

With this argument, I would have to lean towards Uncle Owen or Aunt Beau
not being related to Vader:  If there were so few forceful people/beings
left and the force is powerful with Skywalkers, it wouldn't make sense to
allow him/her killed (hey, those ghosts could have warned them (= ) or not
to train him/her.  (Yes, I know, arguments about how they didn't want 
anything to do with the force follow.)  I always liked the idea that they
were related to Luke's mom.


patricia


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From: kmwilcox@iastate.edu (Kevin M Wilcox)
Subject: Re: Z-95?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 23:05:56 GMT

In <1992Oct2.105037.13286@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> cbarilleaux@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Cyberpreppie) writes:

>In article <92275.233049BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu>, Brian Panulla, MooCow <BJP108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>> I personally was appalled by the drawing of the Z-95 in the Tatooine Manhunt


>	wait--is that the craft Luke used to fly ("I used to bullseye....in my
>old....they're not bigger than 2 meters)? If that is the case, Luke was playing
>with a model of on in ANH just after he got the 'droids but before he saw the
>message from Leia.

No, Luke flew a T-16 Skyhopper, which incidentally, bore an amazing resemblance
to the Imperial Shuttle in ROTJ.


K. M. Wilcox


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From: MLINDROOS@finabo.abo.fi (Marcus Lindroos INF)
Subject: Re: ILM is for amateurs
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 17:43:48 GMT
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In <92277.221516SXM126@psuvm.psu.edu> <SXM126@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>     YOU KNOW, I CAN'T BELIEVE HOW MUCH FAITH EVERYONE IN THIS GROUP PLACES IN
> GEORGE LUCAS' ILM. WHAT A BUNCH OF LOSERS. I MEAN C'MON, WHO CAN'T DO STOP GO
> ANIMATION NOWADAYS. AND AS FAR AS A NEW STAR WARS MOVIE WITH NEW EFFECTS, HE
> BETTER CAN IT NOW. STAR WARS WILL NEVER MATCH UP TO STAR TREK'S FIRST SEASON
> OF FX.

Star TREK?! Oh dear, you must be joking. As far as SFX go, only the Next
Generation cannot be described as being "pathetic." And the bulk of their first
season FX were done by ILM... 

>     AS FAR AT T2, I COULDN'T BELIEVE HOW PEOPLE COULD ACTUALLY PAY MONEY FOR
> THAT MOVIE. I MEAN I COULD DO MORPHING ON MY COMMADORE VIC 20. THERE HAS TO
> BE SOMEONE OUT THERE WHO AGREES WITH ME, THERE ARE MORE RESPECTABLE FX COM-
> PANIES OUT THERE, GIVE THEM A CHANCE.
> 
>                               -MANG

MARCU$
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From: jlwoodal@garcia.warfield.edu 
Subject: Re: Anakin Skywalker & Obi Wan
Originator: jlwoodal@c00060-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: Solar Federation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:59:46 GMT


>	ROTJ was shown in Melbourne last nite, and there was the scene
>	where Obi Wan told Luke about Anakin. This reminded me of 
>	an earlier post regarding Vader's breathing, where he seemed
>	to have fallen into a lava pit while fighting Obi Wan....
>	"He's more machine than man now..." something like that.
>	Is this what Obi Wan was referring to. 
>
>	BTW, is this fight documented somewhere? ie. is that part
>	of a dialogue in one of the 3 movies? If not, where did this
>	piece of info come from ?
>
	

I seem to remember from my young first grade days people (other
first grade colleigues) telling me about Vader's vall into a
lava pit / volcano.  How the hell would a bunch of FIRST graders
know about this?
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Why Endor? OR The Economy of Galaxy Farfaraway
Date: 29 Sep 92 04:34:50 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <martin.717641879@zen> martin@zen.maths.uts.edu.au (Martin Caden) writes:
>
>In <92269.192736DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> <DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>
>>Well, if you go by Heir to the Empire ( not that you should ) , Coruscant was
>>supposedly the Imperial throneworld.
>> .......                                    Now, is this the "bright center
>>of the universe"? Is it a long way from the common locales of the SW films?
>
>Coruscant was indeed the "throneworld" - but this does not necessarily mean
>that it is in (or near) the industrial heartland (or even near the centre) of
>the Empire.  Zahn spent a lot of time discussing (or having the characters
>discuss) just why certain Jedi chose to live where they lived.  Perhaps there
>is something "unusual" Force-wise about Coruscant (see the current discussion
>about Delta source) that made it an ideal home for Palpatine.

Personally, if I was building my "throneworld," with my nice palace
and everything, I wouldn't put it on the industrial planets, with all
the polution, etc.  I would be much more likely to put it on a nice
scenic planet, not too far away from civilization, but not too close
to all the "undesireable" planets, either, where you can look out
of the palace windows and see a nice view, rather than a factory
or something like that.  Someone else might put it elsewhere, but
I certainly wouldn't.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
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From: jogle@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Jim Ogle (Ks. Jim))
Subject: Re: Anakin Skywalker & Obi Wan
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 02:27:43 GMT

ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Christopher D Tatro) writes:

>In article <mumble> jlwoodal@garcia.warfield.edu  writes

>>I seem to remember from my young first grade days people (other
>>first grade colleigues) telling me about Vader's vall into a
>>lava pit / volcano.  How the hell would a bunch of FIRST graders
>>know about this?
>
>I, also in first grade at the time, had heard it was an acid pit. I also would
>love to know whether this is an example of collective unconscious or if it was
>documented somewhere.

I remember reading this in a poster magazine that was part of the
massive SW merchandising trend.  No telling how official any of it
was, but it was also where I remember first reading that stormtroopers
are all clones raised to be elite soldiers.

-- 
Kansas Jim (Jim Ogle, TORG guru)                               /|
jogle@aoc.nrao.edu (NRAO-VLBA, Socorro New Mexico)           o| |-
"I'd be apathetic if I cared."                              /|\\|
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From: acameron@engr.UVic.CA (Alan  Cameron)
Subject: Re: Yoda's Conversation
Reply-To: acameron@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 17:51:22 GMT

In article 1a7c36INN2oo@bigboote.WPI.EDU, mmartin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew Wayne Martin) writes:
>
>	I'm pretty sure Yoda says (in ESB) " For 800 years have I trained Jedi,
>My own council will I seek as to who is to be trained."  It's been awhile since
>I last saw ESB, so I don't know if this is exact.


That sounds about right to me...I have seen ESB fairly recently...that is the part when Yoda is talking to Obi Wan about training Luke isn't it??

Alan Cameron



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From: dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: Two unrelated questions
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Reply-To: dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu
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In article <BvGAFL.3xz@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v113np2v@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (George D Emmons) writes...
>In article <1OCT92011259@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu>, dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu writes...
>>1.  For those of you who have the laserdisc version of ESB, are R2-D2's 
>>"words" legible on the screen in Luke's X-wing?  They are just a blur in my 
>>VHS version of the movie.  If you can read them, what is he saying?
>     Like the lettering in the Executor when the Tydirium is going
>to the forest moon, it's gobbledygook. Looks sorta Greek. 
>     BTW, this brings up a valid question:
>Why, when ESB and ROTJ were made, did they use the heiroglyphs,
>while in Star Wars they used English letters and Arabic numbers
>(Tractor beam and Docking Bay 94 come to mind)?

Actually, that was my whole reason for asking: I recently noticed the 
"tractor beam" label in ANH and wondered at the discrepancy between that 
and the glyphs in ROTJ.  I figured that might have been some sort of code 
(I can't remember whether they showed it before or after the shuttle 
transmitted its clearance code), but this sort of blows a hole in that 
theory.  I guess the explanation is that each movie was done by a 
different director.

>(This is the same guy who has two rocketfetts, numerous PVC coat
>Jawas, and two POTF FX-7's, so it's not surprising...)

Is their a difference between the Power of the Force FX-7 and earlier 
models?

--Gallandro

  From 1964:
  Reporter: "What do you think of the campaign in Detroit to stamp out the
             Beatles?"
  Paul McCartney: "We've got a campaign of our own to stamp out Detroit."
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From: kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu (Sean Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Z-95?
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 22:06:34 GMT

cleaver@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Russell Cleaver) writes:

>> |> 	wait--is that the craft Luke used to fly ("I used to bullseye....in my
>> |> old....they're not bigger than 2 meters)? 
>> 
>> No- that's a different craft.  That thing was just a souped up landspeeder 
>> that flew.  

>"I used to bullseye womp-rats in my T-16 back home; they're not much bigger
>than two meters."

>So I guess Luke's landspeeder was *not* his T-16, correct?
>Or maybe it was?...


	From the radio series Luke also refers to his T-16 has his "Sky
Hopper."  It most definately is not his landspeeder.


			--Sean Kennedy
			  kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu
From: jdng90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Gorsuch JDN)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Raiders : Directed by commitee
Date: 6 Oct 92 09:59:19 GMT


   I was under the impression, that although Spielberg was the
official director of Raiders Spielberg, Lucas and Ford all contributed
ideas in roughly equal proportion, the famous shooting in the market 
was a spontaneous decision by Ford. 

           jon