From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Orange-jok
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:26:49 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <If=LLAS00iV3E7894Q@andrew.cmu.edu> Woncheal Choi <wc1q+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>   Anyway, the point I was tring to make was that OJs and other rich
>people's influence to other korean people are more serious than those of
>rich people in USA

	I was keep trying to point the other view on this; but I guess
	I failed.

	Let me try once more; I think the real problem is on the attitude
	of people (this can be the rich + the poor) who take those
	of the rich.

>There are good aspects in korean tradition. The dirty culture I
>mentioned are things that spoil those good points like drugs, sexisms,
>money worship.

	Every culutre has some parts of it already and Korea
	has been notorious exporter of ICE.
	And SEXISM, I don't thik I need to talk about this.

>....    Some people talked about chinese influence in
>korean culture to justify importing foreign cultures.  So was the result
>desirable by having been using chinese charater and parasited to China? 

	I guess that someone is me; but what I was trying to say
	is nobody can do anything about incoming cultural wave
	and should not forcefully block/censor or favor certain culture.

	Think about what Imperial Japan did to Korean culture
	during WW2 and why they took it back and went for another
	method.

	And YES, I hate to see chinese characters mixed up with Hangul;
	but I'd like to take that blame to Govt. forcing people
	not to survive thru school w/o it.

	And I wish no one in Korea makes software that can show HanJa.

>    This is quite vague term but the point is that I believe there are
>still more people in korea who has traditional ways of thinking and
>their idea build the main stream of korean ethic and mentality.  Before
>you judge whether that is good or bad, it is true that the new ideology
>or way of thinking have been viewed more than it is. How many real
>korean people are like the ones shown in korean 'Soap-Opera'? ( I am
>just talking about their level of life, but also their the mentality). I
>wanted to more emphasize on people who are in the shadow of fancy neon
>lights and who are.

	I don't get this; what does this have to do with the topic?
	But anyway, I'd like to say that no one can argue with someone's
	taste; and further more, no one can force someone to think in
	certain way.  Maybe I don't like someone's way of thinking but
	I can force him/her to change his/her thought even though I might try
	to pursuade him/her.

>    I found some attitudes in the posting that 'All the big cities have
>same problems', 'I don't care what rich people do.' 'If someone is doing
>wrong, then it is his personal problem'. Korean government has been
>successfully using these ideas to control korean people. In some sence,
>korean people have 'Ja-gi po-gi sim-li'(Sorry, lack of vocabulary).

	The above is not true; "I'm working hard to be rich in order to spend
	more money - well, I guess it won't happen to me unless I give
	up my games and sun"
>>OJ is 

	And I don't like the attitude of people towards OJ;
	and that seems to be serious bad SYMPTOM.
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