HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: molenda@i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: contacting anatolia.mn.org
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:12:26 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

Hello.  In a ``discussion'' in one of our regional newsgroups, it has
been stated that the only message that has been sent to the system
administrator of anatolia.mn.org was the mail bomb by Paul Pomes.  At
least that is what the administrator of anatolia.mn.org claims.

Has anyone out there tried contacting anatolia.mn.org in a _sane_
manner (i.e. not dumping five gigabytes of crap down its throat.)?
Could you please let me know (a) which mail address you sent the
message to and, if you still might have the message handy, (b)
what the text of the message was.

It is tough to hold a discussion with a system administrator who
claims complete ignorance of the entire matter.  Any help would
be appreciated.
-- 
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From: cudcv@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Rob McMahon)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: Re: Killfiles
Date: 29 Dec 1992 13:57:47 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: sprocket.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <Bzw598.JzF@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
writes: 
>The relevant line in mine reads:
>/Serdar Argic/h:j

My favourite for such people is

/Serdar Argic/h:,

(in trn), which kills the tree from the point where the person responded.
This doesn't work quite so well in this case, because his postings are so
content-free that people don't normally follow up, but it's still useful.

Rob
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Xref: sparky news.admin.policy:1004 comp.bbs.waffle:5765
From: rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy,comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: killfiles for waffle, was (Re: Yeah! Argic has called!)
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 93 05:14:14 CST
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Organization: The Red Headed League; Lawton, Ok
X-Newsreader: rusnews v0.97

[note the crosspost and followup]
exile@mediaone.freeside.com (Exile in Paradise) writes:

> babblings... also is there any way to establish a 'killfile' on Waffle
> 1.65? Is the offical policy on this sort of behavior (argic-type
> postings) to be just use a kill-file at your site? Any response
> appreciated. Thanks

I use rusnews available from halcyon.com via FTP or form the mail
server.  It doesn't have the power of rn,trn, or nn but it's better than
nothing.

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Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Cancels
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 16:02:59 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to exile@mediaone.freeside.com (Exile in Paradise):
>It really was an experiment to see how the Internet handles cancels...

Lame Newbie Excuse #1: "It was an experiment!"

>we (everyone NOT argic) are forced to stand idly by while the InterNet 
>terrorist Argic continues unabated attack...

Lame Newbie Excuse #2: "It's not my fault!"

>I felt I should at least try it once and *see* for myself.

Lame Newbie Excuse #3: "Well, how was I to know what happened before?"
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   and remove them with a pitchfork" -- Weird Al Yankovic, "You Make Me"
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: sridhar@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman )
Subject: Cancels (Re: Killfiles)
Organization: ASU, Valley of the Sun(s), AZ
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 16:54:26 GMT

rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo) writes:
)henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
)>jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (J. Furr) writes:

)>>Or perhaps someone here can help me. Assuming I'm in my killfile and know
)>>how to type, how do I set things up to kill all posts authored by "Serdar
)>>Argic"?
)
)>The relevant line in mine reads:
)
)>/Serdar Argic/h:j
)
)Does this work with 'nn' or 'rn' ?. 
)I guess it's time for me to read man pages, ugh :-(

Works for rn. I was waiting to test the following line in the killfile
when I noticed that nothing got killed because someone else seems
to be doing a cancel for everyone of us!

/^Path:.*anatolia/h:=:j

Sridhar.
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From: dennett@acadia.Kodak.COM (Charles R. Dennett)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: Question about our friend
Date: 30 Dec 92 15:44:55 GMT
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY

I've been watching the posts fly back and forth between our
friend and the others.  I noticed that nothing from our friend came
through last night.  Did he finally get shut off?  

Also, I notice that others refer to him by different names.  Just
curious if someone would email me a brief history of his activities

Thanks,

Charles Dennett          | Rochester Distributed Computer Services
Mail Stop 01925          |   Customer Technical Support Services
Eastman Kodak Company    | ---------------------------------------
Rochester, NY 14650-1925 |       Internet: dennett@Kodak.COM
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon)
Subject: Re: A R G I C allows itself far too much
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:46:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.180509.12126@news2.cis.umn.edu> molenda@msi-i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda) writes:
>scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons) writes:
>
>As an interesting aside, if one were to check directory assistance for
>Minneapolis (612-555-1212), one might notice that there is in fact a
>phone listing for both Ahmet Cosar and a certain S. Ardic.  THESE MAY
>OR MAY NOT BE THE SAME TWO PEOPLE AS WE KNOW AND LOVE ON THE NET.
>Don't around making harassing calls in the middle of the evening or
>anything; I have no idea if these are the same folks.
>
>It is also interesting to note that Ahmet Cosar appears to be a grad
>student in the computer science department and, therefore, has a mail
>account there (i.e. cosar@cs.umn.edu).

I wonder if his various sources might like to get him for copyright
infringement?  (Eg the UK paper ``The Observer'' that he/it/she has
quoted more than once, I'm sure without permission.)

Or what about getting him under MN / US obscentity laws for what has
been one of the longest-lasting fountains of (childish) spite so far
witnessed on USENET?

Or what about us simply all billing him for lost time, bandwidth and
disc space?  I'm sure a contingency-fee lawyer might like to take up
the case on behalf of 100-or-so of us) and get it into SA's thick skull
that having its/her/his views is fine.  Spending our money to insult us
and waste our time with them REPEATEDLY is NOT.  I *KNOW* that one runs
this risk with USENET.  But then one does with a private telephone or
snail-mail box too...  And there *is* recourse for malicious misuse of
those facilities.

And I still haven't put she/it/he in my kill file.  Aren't I the hero?
B^>

Damon
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From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: Re: A R G I C allows itself far too much
Date: 29 Dec 1992 18:15:04 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Dec29.134900.22459@refrig.dixie.com> todd@refrig.dixie.com (Todd H.) writes:
>I disagree.  Uunet is a business, and can do anything it wants to.  The
>communication links they carry aren't regulated by the government, so far as
>I know, and they aren't a public utility, so they're free to cut off anyone
>that they want.

Actually, uunet is trying to establish itself as a common carrier. This does
Good Things for all of Usenet, like removing individual sites' liability for
transporting messages with illegal content. Unfortunately, it also means that
they cannot refuse to carry traffic for any given customer.
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From: edhall@rand.org (Ed Hall)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: Re: Serdar Argic (was Re: Meanwhile, back at news.admin.policy)
Date: 23 Dec 92 04:13:55 GMT
Organization: RAND

Cutting off this fellow's feed, whether directly or through software mods,
would be a dangerous precendent.  This might be one of those cases where
we all have to put up with a bit of a nuisance for the good of the net,
whether by our private kill files or our N keys.

		-Ed Hall
		edhall@rand.org
From: gwh@soda.berkeley.edu (George William Herbert)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: Re: contacting anatolia.mn.org
Date: 31 Dec 1992 06:14:41 GMT
Organization: UCB Open Access Computing
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
Summary: Kick Me, I'm Posting while Tired.

In article <1hu1erINNsct@agate.berkeley.edu> gwh@soda.berkeley.edu (George William Herbert) writes:
>The system administrator of anatolia.mn.org is(was) Hasan B. Mutlu,

For the entire post I sent out, sed s/Hasan Mutlu/Ahmet Cosar/

Mutlu is one of the early aliases apparently used, and due to
the lateness of the hour when I posted this and lack
of recent review of my mail records (fun NOT) I got confused
for a second.

-george


Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
Subject: Serdar (int) Argc
Organization: Who, me???
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:21:09 GMT

Hey, Serdar, what's a little genocide between friends? It's the holiday
season, after all...

								- Kevin
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: pcheah@nyx.cs.du.edu (Po Shan Cheah)
Subject: Serdar Argic reads news.admin.policy now
Followup-To: poster
Summary: down with Argic
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 06:02:46 GMT

As the recent spate of posts show, that garrulous piece of AI junk
Serdar Argic is now crossposting to news.admin.policy, as well as
about half a dozen other newsgroups. *sigh* Pure killfile fodder. 

Let's see whether it responds to an article not crossposted to
soc.culture.turkish. 


Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup creation guidelines
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 14:59:43 GMT
Organization: TC Telemanagement, Clearwater, FL

According to stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley):
>According to strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom):
>>I simply proposed that one particular piece of information be
>>inserted into the Subject line:  the name of the group or hierarchy
>>whose names and/or charters may be changed by the vote.
>
>First, I will tell you again, charters are not changed.

As a side point: this assertion is not correct.  Recall the renaming
of comp.unix.sysv386 to comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit: the group's charter
changed, expanding to cover all UNIX variants for 32-bit PC clones.

>Second, there is more than one piece of information you want included.
>Renaming a.b.c to a.d.e affects both the a.b hierarchy and the a.d
>hierarchy, as well as the a.b.c newsgroup. I count three things that
>need to be in the Subject.

True but irrelevant.  Existing readership is completely covered with
one notice: "Proposed change in a.b.*".

>And they will still argue ad-infinitum about whether the reorganization
>is a logical one. Your proposal will do absolutely nothing about that.

Quite definitely true, and a point to remember.

>The only thing your proposal would reduce is the number of people who
>whine about missing a vote because they  chose not to read the CFV, and
>even then it won't fix that problem because people will STILL choose not
>to read things.

Right.  The first comp.unix.* reorg proved that point beyond doubt.
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Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Subject: Re: A R G I C allows itself far too much
Reply-To: gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston)
Organization: SCI Systems, Inc., Huntsville, Al.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 01:07:52 GMT

In article <8234@lib.tmc.edu> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
|In article <1992Dec29.134900.22459@refrig.dixie.com> todd@refrig.dixie.com (Todd H.) writes:
|>I disagree.  Uunet is a business, and can do anything it wants to.  The
|>communication links they carry aren't regulated by the government, so far as
|>I know, and they aren't a public utility, so they're free to cut off anyone
|>that they want.
|
|Actually, uunet is trying to establish itself as a common carrier. This does
|Good Things for all of Usenet, like removing individual sites' liability for
|transporting messages with illegal content. Unfortunately, it also means that
|they cannot refuse to carry traffic for any given customer.

Interesting. I thought a common carrier was not only allowed, but
pretty much required, to cut off someone engaging in harassment.

Or is that something coming under the head of a "tariff"?


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Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: dhd@exnet.co.uk (Damon)
Subject: Re: Killfiles
Organization: ExNet Systems Ltd Public Access News, London, UK
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 00:59:55 GMT

In article <Bzw598.JzF@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
>In article <BzuL9s.CCy@polaris.async.vt.edu> jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (J. Furr) writes:
>>Or perhaps someone here can help me.  Assuming I'm in my killfile and know
>>how to type, how do I set things up to kill all posts authored by "Serdar
>>Argic"?
>
>The relevant line in mine reads:
>
>/Serdar Argic/h:j

Thank you Henry.

Well, SA, I'd like you to note that of all the 2 million people on
USENET, you're the only one who's pissed me off enough to get into my
killfile in 3 or 4 years.  So yours are the only posts I won't get to
read, so yours is the only point of view I won't see.  And it has
nothing to do with your point of view.

Which achieves exactly the opposite of what you can have wanted.

What a jerk.  Maybe you'll find out that *QUALITY* rather that
*QUANTITIY* and/or insult level is what is needed to put across your
point of view.

Damon
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From: jfurr@polaris.async.vt.edu (J. Furr)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: Re: A R G I C allows itself far too much
Date: 31 Dec 92 12:22:13 GMT
Organization: Virginia Center for Lemur Fandom (subscribe to alt.fan.lemurs TODAY)

In article <1992Dec30.034943.11215@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com> c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos) writes:
>In article <1992Dec29.180509.12126@news2.cis.umn.edu> molenda@msi-i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda) writes:
>>
>>As an interesting aside, if one were to check directory assistance for
>>Minneapolis (612-555-1212), one might notice that there is in fact a
>>phone listing for both Ahmet Cosar and a certain S. Ardic.  THESE MAY
>>OR MAY NOT BE THE SAME TWO PEOPLE AS WE KNOW AND LOVE ON THE NET.
>
>Serdar Argic is none other than Hasan B Mutlu of Chicago, IL. (He's
>in the phone book also). Argic's differences with Mutlu include the
>fact that Mutlu used single quotes when molesting peoples' names
>while Argic uses doubles, a different signature, and different email
>address. 

How do you know that Argic=Mutlu if they both have phone numbers?
From: pv02@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (PETER VOROBIEFF)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: Re: Argic! I don't argue with cowardly ROBOTS!
Date: 24 Dec 92 12:02:36 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <9212222012@zuma.UUCP>, sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
[junk deleted]

I post followup to your message for the first and for the last time.
I want to make it clear that I have no business with cowards who don't
even have enough courage to have a valid e-mail address. If the situation
in Armenia bothers you so much, buy a ticket, get to Baku, take a train,
go south, buy a damned gun and join the bloody war. You have no balls,
Argic thing, to accept my challenge, and be all the news.admin.policy
readers witnesses to this.

-- 
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From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: Re: A R G I C allows itself far too much
Date: 30 Dec 92 03:49:43 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <1992Dec29.180509.12126@news2.cis.umn.edu> molenda@msi-i1.msi.umn.edu (Jason Molenda) writes:
>
>As an interesting aside, if one were to check directory assistance for
>Minneapolis (612-555-1212), one might notice that there is in fact a
>phone listing for both Ahmet Cosar and a certain S. Ardic.  THESE MAY
>OR MAY NOT BE THE SAME TWO PEOPLE AS WE KNOW AND LOVE ON THE NET.

Serdar Argic is none other than Hasan B Mutlu of Chicago, IL. (He's
in the phone book also). Argic's differences with Mutlu include the
fact that Mutlu used single quotes when molesting peoples' names
while Argic uses doubles, a different signature, and different email
address. 

Previous netters may recall Mutlu from his days forging thru 
sarp.aic.com (and his hilarious attack of the REAL aic.com when they
protested the forgery!), his days at anadolu.michigan.com, and
his days when someone we all know forged messages for him for a month
thru the ucbvax gateway...

Spiros
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Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer)
Subject: Re: Encoding Mime articles before transmission ?
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:38:33 GMT
Organization: U of Toronto Zoology

In article <1i22s8INNca9@grasp1.univ-lyon1.fr> Christophe.Wolfhugel@grasp.insa-lyon.fr (Christophe Wolfhugel) writes:
>What policy should a site adopt when forwarding Mime articles ?
>There are currently sites posting and sending articles in 8bit
>(Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit), which is fine on the 8-bit
>news systems.  But I doubt that currently the sender would
>encode it in "quoted-printable" before transmitting to a 7-bit
>site.

The sender shouldn't be using 8bit CTE unless he is sure that all sites
reached by the article can cope properly with 8-bit encodings.  All the
relevant standards, at this time, specify 7-bit transmission, so no site
is obliged to handle 8-bit stuff correctly except by prearrangement.

>Is it reasonnable if a site performs such conversion before
>forwarding the article to its 7-bit neighbors (and possibly to
>many other sites behind).

You *must not* forward articles using 8-bit encodings to neighbors who
have not explicitly agreed to receive such articles.  See above comment
on standards.  The legitimate actions are to convert the article or
decline to forward it.  Converting it sounds reasonable to me.
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From: scs@iti.org (Steve Simmons)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: Re: contacting anatolia.mn.org
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:22:31 GMT
Organization: Industrial Technology Institute

paul@uxc.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul Pomes - UofIllinois CSO) writes:

>What would be really handy is the ability to add aliases to the ME entry,
>e.g.,

>ME/zuma/becker:comp,news,etc\all:F:

This would be a generally useful addition to Cnews and INN.  You
out there guys?
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Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup creation guidelines (was Re: Folklore, synth, and guidelines)
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 22:13:48 GMT
Organization: IBM Research

In article <2B361014.6C74@tct.com>, chip@tct.com (Chip Salzenberg) writes:
|> According to strom@Watson.Ibm.Com (Rob Strom):
|> >I was using the word "guidelines" loosely to refer to all the
|> >tutorial postings in news.announce.newusers: None are actually
|> >labelled as "guidelines" in their titles but reading them as a whole,
|> >they appear to function collectively as such.
|> 
|> You are mistaken.  Only "How To Create ..." contains a procedure which
|> must (for practical purposes) be followed.  The other articles merely
|> record societal conventions, which vary from newsgroup to newsgroup.
|> The term "the guidelines" refers _only_ to the former.
|> 

OK.  I've already conceded the point!  I admitted
that my use of the word "guidelines" was 'loose'.
I'd like to move the discussion from which documents
should be called "guidelines" and which not, to
what the documents should say.

My specific proposals would affect "How to Create..."
as well as "User's Guide..."

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From: emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire)
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
Subject: Re: Serdar Argic -vs- the Universe, er, Usenet
Date: 26 Dec 92 17:12:07 GMT
Organization: Intellection, Inc.

In article <Bzu2vJ.1HI.2@cs.cmu.edu> Karl_Kleinpaste@cs.cmu.edu writes:

   2. I will find it entertaining in the extreme to see Monsieur Ardic's
   response to this suggestion, which will no doubt include some subset
   of [a] a demand for my net acess to be removed (yeah, right, and the
   Easter Bunny will be early this year); [b] a personal attack on me for
   the suggestion of the levy of any type of penalty against him, let
   alone the Usenet Death Penalty; [c] confused questions from Monsieur
   Ardic as to the exact nature of the Usenet Death Penalty.

You forgot [d] several pages of quotations unrelated to the topic.  :)
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Raise Usenet quality.  Read news.announce.newgroups and vote.
Newsgroups: news.admin.policy
From: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Subject: Re: Newsgroup creation guidelines (was Re: Folklore, synth, and guidelines)
Reply-To: gvh@metrosoft.com (Gordon Van Huizen)
Organization: Metrosoft
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 08:16:01 GMT

In article <EMCGUIRE.92Dec20122915@mother.intellection.com>  
emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire) writes:
> The problem is, how do you get people to read the
> "guidelines for voters?"  Readers are far more likely to
> be motivated to pay attention by a well written subject
> line warning about the vote in their favorite newsgroup
> itself. 

I agree. I feel both measures are called for.

Gordon
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