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From: bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Moron
Date: 9 Sep 92 07:36:12 GMT
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Organization: Purdue University

In article <1992Sep9.014238.11411@math.ucla.edu> rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw) writes:

>If you weren't such a moron you would've known that the Bills 
>were favored to win because of that and they lost because 
>their offense chocked, they missed the game winning field goal.

Since you've chosen to be abusive . . . .

>As for the Redskins, the yhad a cake schedule because they were 
>wimps the year before. I bet this year they get hammered.
^^^^^^
. . . how MORONIC can *you* be???  The NFC East is certainly one of
the toughest divisions, if not the toughest.  Sorry but it was 89 that
the  Deadskins had their non-playoff year.  Besides, parity has
greatly changed the concept of the easy schedule (Dallas had one of
the top three toughest schedules in the NFL though they were a
sub-.500 team the year before).


>
>If San Fran does anything it's because of their easy schedule,
>they weren't even a playoff team last year.

Though they had the record of some playoff teams and though they
finished the 2nd half of the season with one of the best records (over
the last 8 games).

It's a shame to see fanatics in a frenzy of stupidity.

Gary Beason
bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu
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From: bsricker@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN SCOTT RICKER)
Subject: Tony Smith ??????
Originator: bsricker@c00470-224wi.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: bsricker@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN SCOTT RICKER)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 01:09:38 GMT


Does Anyone out there know if Tony Smith will play for 
Atlanta this Sunday ( Week 3 )?  He was in the game on one kick return
this week.  Let me know if you hear anything.


Cheers,
Brian 'Miami will upset the Bills to win the AFC East' Ricker
From: greco@sun.lclark.edu (Peter Greco)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Niners/Bills
Summary: Week Two
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:43:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Sep14.214352.3453
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

Credit where credit is due:
1) The Bills are an impressive offensive team which earned a victory at
   Candlestick yesterday.
2) Thurman Thomas and Jim Kelly deserve all of the praise they get.
3) The 49ers are an impressive offensive team, but not as efficient or
   mature (overall) as are the Bills.
4) Ricky Watters has his second straight solid effort.  Steve Young is a damn
   good QB.

Obvious critical comments (IMHO):
1) Defense ought to be a little more of a priority for both teams.  The
   Bills did manage to be resourceful enough to force enough key Niner
   mistakes to give the Bills a decided advantage.
2) The Niners need much improvement in the secondary and the pass rush.
3) Mike Cofer is not performing as a kicker should to keep an NFL job.

Less obvious critical comments (IMHO):
1) Steve Young can pile up statistics and play a great game, but still finish
   without the clutch performance that is often required to win.
2) Keith Henderson and Jamie Williams ought to recognize that NFL defenses
   work hard at making offensive players fumble.  I say this because they
   have both fumbled enough to make me yell "don't fumble" when they get
   the ball...especially in critical situations.

Interesting side comments (IMHO):
1) Ricky Watters was 2 yards shy of tying Thurman Thomas for leading rusher.
   The Niners outrushed the Bills, however, because of a fleet footed
   Steve Young's 50 yards.
2) There were 70 passes in the game, 20 were incomplete and 2 were
   intercepted.  Steve Young actually had a better completion percentage than
   Jim Kelly.
3) The 49ers were penalized 5 times for 51 yards; the Bills only twice for
   10 yards.  This helped to close the 110 yard 49er advatage in total yards.
4) The dirt of the infield continues to have a slight effect on the football
   games played in Candlestick during baseball season.  I saw cases where
   both teams had minor problems here.  I'm not sure the outcome was/is
   ever different because of it, but it has always bugged me.  This might be
   the only good thing about the Giants' departure.

Thanks for listening.
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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Bears beat Lions...
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 13:30:31 GMT

In article <lajvfgINNeir@cronkite> andy@sunbird.central.sun.com (Andy Knipp Metro SE) writes:

   In a game that no one should have lost the Chicago Bears defeated
   the Detroit Lions 27-24.  

Agreed.  Right after the game I was trying to take solace in the fact that
the Lions were barely beaten, and had won statistically.  Mondays paper:
surprise surprise.  The bears clearly won in both score and stats, though
both were pretty close.  Great game all around.

   For the Lions,  Rodney Peete looked exceptional.  He completed ~ 75%
   of his passes for 273 yards.  He was also sacked 5 times and had
   Bears all over him all game.  Harbaugh,  on the other hand,  did not get
   sacked & typically had enough time to throw.  

I thought the Lions line did a good job in the first half, and if I remember
right all of the sacks were in the second.  It really looked to me like they
tired against the rotating Bears defensive line.  Coming into the game, I
thought the big issue would be the line play on both sides: no fridge and
spellman in his first game, fotenot and auzeene (sp), and the two new detroit
guards.  Hopefully the season will prove the Bears have a great defensive
line, and a decent Oline, because I think they clearly won both battles.

Rodney looked great, and hopefully some of the talk about Detroit not having
a qb will die down.  Harbaugh, on the other hand, was all over the place.  He
showed great leadership in the 4'th quarter, and produced pretty well before
that.  But I saw at least three wounded ducks that he put up that the guy
should have paid for.  One of them was a big completion to Thornton, but I
thought he should have put the balls out of bounds.

I was really annoyed by this new Detroit offense.  Did it work at all, other
than the one Hback block into the line that Barry turned into ~ 11 and the
all-highlight touchdown he had?  And can any coach or lineman claim any
credit for that baby?  For three years the guy has run wild in the NFL from
the run-and-shoot, and I always thought he was helped by running in large
open spaces.  Now the Lions are trying to run him in smaller spaces, but with
more blocking.  I don't think it worked at all on Sunday, and I wish to hell
they would have dropped it.

One last question from the Lions point of view: why not throw the screen to
Barry when the Bears rush really picked up in the second half?  

   Boy am I hungry,  Bill MS owes me big time. :-)  Whos next ?

Right, but you've gotta give me a chance to win it back when your guys come
back up north.  Should be another good one.


Bill
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From: mcs@fps.com (Mike Sanfratello)
Subject: Re: Niner's look good (IMHO)
Organization: CRAY Research
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 23:22:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.202234.7237@athena.mit.edu> chico@athena.mit.edu (Thomas A Weston) writes:
>future, you should probably read what he has written and watch the game before
>you bitch at him.

sorry, the game was not turned from "the bills don't stand a chance" to "the
bills WON" by ONE stupid penalty.  Maybe you should watch the game (again,
if necessary) before you start whining; I did.  Sounds like sour grapes
to me...

mike
From: v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Buffalo television\
Date: 7 Sep 92 20:07:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
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Well here in the Wonderous city of Buffalo :} it happened again. At 1:00
the bills played the Rams and on the other station that was supposed to
show the Falcons/Jets game they broadcasted some bullshit. At 4;00 the
49ers/Giants game was supposed to be shown instead a hour of interviews 
with every from Jim Kelly to the bottle boys mother was shown. Woopee.
Then instead of going to the game already in progress we got to see paid 
advertisements.

The question I have is : Is Buffalo the only city that doesn't broadcast,
football, Basketball, etc. unless the city's team is playing?

I would really like to know . Thank You.

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Subject: Re: Cowboys beat Redskins: 23-10
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Date: 9 Sep 92 23:36:16 MST
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona
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In article <latla1INNg67@langtry.cs.utexas.edu>, joel@cs.utexas.edu (Joel Daniel Just) writes:
> Interestingly, (if that's a word), Michael Irvin, despite his recent signing,
> led the team with 5 receptions for 89 yards.

All this dire talk of holdouts not being ready for the season kinda looks
silly now, huh?  If I was a football player with talent like Irvin or Rice,
why NOT hold out of training camp and preseason?  It's a lot easier on my body,
and the coach will still play me in the real games.  And you'll get a better
salary in the bargain, too.

Just a thought....
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
From: v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Okoye?, Brooks?, Brown?
Date: 7 Sep 92 23:26:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Why didn't first 2 play?

What is Ivy Lee Browns place in phoenix offense?
I thought he would start and do well.
He had 4 carries for 0(zero) yards.
What's up? 


E-mail replies if possible.
Thanx- T. Mac

GOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! BILLS!!!!!!!!
KICK NINER BUTT!!!!!!!!
ON TO PASADENA!!!!!!!!!!!
OH!   GOD!   NOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!  NOT ANOTHER SUPERBOWL!!!!!!!  EEEEEEEKKKK!
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Joe Montana and other QB's
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:39:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.160544.19385@mercury.cair.du.edu> ptripp@diana.cair.du.edu (Phil Tripp) writes:
>
>Are all of you who want Joe to quit while he's "ahead" too
>young to remember George Blanda?
>
>-- 
>Phil Tripp, Computing and Information Resources, U of Denver, Denver, CO, USA
>ptripp@zephyr.cair.du.edu

Right on Blanda! :-)  He won alot of games in the final seconds by
making field goals under pressure too.  He also came in when the
QB's were knocked senseless or as a last resort and he usually
always came through.  He was one tough Raider!
-- 
        ---------  John Gloria - jpglori@pacbell.com	--------	
 		"You cannot depend on your eyes when your imagination
	       is out of focus."   -     Mark Twain
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From: rex@cs.washington.edu (Rex Jakobovits)
Subject: will Mack be Back?
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 21:26:30 GMT


Does anybody out there have any idea when Kevin Mack is expected to
play?  Cleveland's running game sure could use him!  The last I heard,
he was listed as questionable with a pulled calf.

-- 
	Rex Jakobovits (rex@cs.washington.edu)
	Dept. of Computer Science
	University of Washington
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: BILL PARCELLS and the GIANTS
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:17:28 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <89015@netnews.upenn.edu> satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair) writes:
>cheapskate owner of the Eagles despite 3 winning season??).  Ray must go.

Handley may or may not be a good coach, and I'm leaning towards not a good
coach, but IMHO there is one thing I like about him. At least he's not 
afraid to be his own man. He's making decisions that he thinks are right,
not what he thinks is safest or most popular.

Compare that with Joe Bugel who I think is a pretty good coach, but who
is currently coaching like a scared rabbit IMHO, because he knows he's
in danger of losing his job. In the Eagles game, in an obvious go for
it situation(4th and 4 on the Eagle 37 just starting 4th quarter down
by 10) he elects to punt rather than go for it. IMHO if he's not worried
about his job, he goes for it, but he took the safe route. The same
could be said about his signing of Mark May and attempting to get Jacoby
and other older players. If he was sure he would be there, he would 
probably rebuild with youth, but not knowing, he's going with more
familiar but older people. Its got a lot to do with Bill Bidwill, but
I would rather Bugel took the youth approach and got fired in the process,
because in the long run it would help the team. What he's doing now is
trying to save his job instead of trying to build the team.

Handley seems to have the right goals, but he's making mistakes while doing
it.




Russ Smith
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From: v077mdph@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Snoopy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bruce.
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:57:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <1992Sep8.204253.7882@morrow.stanford.edu>, GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.
edu (Tony Bechtold) writes...
>In article <Bu82p3.BK2@acsu.buffalo.edu>,
>v077mdph@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Snoopy) writes:
> 
>>        Also, someone else posted that the Bills would be destined to go to
>>the Super Bowl if they beat the '49ers by 40-7 like they beat the Rams.
>>Again, I think differently.
>>        The '49ers are better, but they simply aren't such an awesome team
>>that I would measure the Bills prospects by how well they play against the
>>'49ers.  I expect the Bills to beat the '49ers, but not by that much.
>>
>>Snoopy
> 
>Both the Bills and 49ers have explosive offenses.  Hard to say which
>one is really better, they both posses extreme talent.
>However, the one major difference between the two teams is defense.
>The Bills defense stinks!  And the Niners do have defense!  I would
>think that the Bills would be spending more time playing keep up if
>anything!  I see the 49ers winning, but not by much!

	The Bills have a better offense.  Their quarterbacks are better, their
receivers not as good, but they have a better running game.  Their defense is
good.  To think it sucks, you must actually LISTEN to the announcers!

>                                                    Tony
>                                                 GO 49ERS!!!


Snoopy
From: evans@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - CIT Network Operations)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Player Status: McKeller (Bills)
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:32:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BuBxt9.B2B@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v130pwbq@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes...
>In article <19920909.114948.711@almaden.ibm.com>, mannk@fshvmfk1.VNET.IBM.COM writes...
>>What is the status on McKeller?  IR material?
> 
>Keith is to be on IR for 4-8 weeks. With Keith now injured the Bills are
>faced with the dilema of finding someone to play tight end.

I just saw the paper, but don't have it with me. I think the guy they
signed was Rob Awalt (Awald?) off the waiver wire from the Denver Broncos
to replace McKeller. They opted to go for a veteran TE with good hands
for the number 2 spot.


Doug

                                  |                              Doug Evans
                                  | State University of New York at Buffalo
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From: beegle@ftp.phy.uab.edu (Earthbound)
Subject: Re: Divisional standings
Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 00:23:21 GMT

In article <92252.154649RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET> RENE ZANDBERGEN <RZANDBER@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
>
>The following contains just facts (if I have got them right) and no
>opinion. I leave the discussion to others (but please keep it nice)
>
>Rene Zandbergen (RZANDBER @ ESOC.BITNET) (RCZ in 'the pool')
>
>Divisional statistics for week  1
>---------------------------------
>AFC East     2-1  (1)
>AFC Central  2-2  (3t)
>AFC West     2-3  (5t)
>
>NFC East     2-3  (5t)
>NFC Central  3-2  (2)
>NFC West     2-2  (3t)
>
>AFC - NFC matchups for week  1
>------------------------------
>AFC - NFC     1 - 1
>
>Cumulative divisional statistics up to week  1 (including)
>----------------------------------------------------------
>(as above)
>
>Cumulative AFC - NFC matchups up to week  1 (including)
>-------------------------------------------------------
>(as above)

wouldn't it be a more acurate discription of a division if 
you took away interadivisional games? That way the NFC central looks 
better with a 1-0 record. Why should they get penilized just because TWO 
teams were destined to lose?


-- 
Luke
		The most romantic thing anyone ever said to me in bed was
		"Are you sure you are not a cop?"
I only drink for medicinal purposes: unfortuantly I have been sick for 5 years.
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From: imprint@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (IMPRINT -- UW's Student Newspaper)
Subject: Cowboys players stats
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:14:25 GMT

Does anyone have some players stats for the Washington-Dallas game?
Specifically, Ricky Ervins, Earnest Byner, Daryl Johnston, Michael Irvin,
Jay Novacek?

Thanks a billion,

Peter Brown
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From: npl@prodigal.psych.rochester.edu (Fork Boy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Colts cut Herrmann !!
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:01:21 GMT
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Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

In article <1992Sep8.131131.8469@bcars6a8.bnr.ca> awhitton@bnr.ca writes:
>In article <1992Sep8.125445.19280@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, edg@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (edwin.g.green) writes:
>|> In article <1992Sep8.124614.27344@europa.asd.contel.com> brian@intercon.com (Brian Lichorowic) writes:
>|> >Anyone know why ????

I heard it was to make room for Jack Trudeau again on the team.


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From: melissa@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Melissa C Merrill)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: LIONS WOOF VIKINGS!!!!
Keywords: BUCS will woof Vikes----- NOT!
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:49:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee

In article <1992Sep15.202822.13485@uwm.edu> tanj@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (tanj) writes:
>
>I just had to get on the bandwagon.  
>I thought we had already established that the Vikings had won the Superbowl 
>last week and the season was already over after the victory over the Packers...
>and now look...WOOF!!!!!
>
>LIONS WOOF VIKINGS!!!!
>
>I just can't wait to see next week's game...Vikings vs. Buccs.
>
>I've seen both teams play in the first two games (the majority of both
>games) in IMHO I think the Buccs WILL WOOF the hapless VIKINGS!
>
>The Vikings looked pathetic against the Packers and the Lions.
>The Buccs looked good...(disclamer coming up)...even though they did
>play the Cardinals and the Pack.
>
	Excuse me, but did you even look at the stats from the Lions-
	Vikings game? Minnesota Did pretty well against both the Lions
	Offense and Defense. Detroit Special teams won the game for them.
	Hats off to the Lions special teams, they looked awesome, but the
	Vikes did not look that pathetic.

>Jeff
>DISCLAMER:  I am not a fan of any particular NFL team.  Deep down in my
>cold heart I am a Packer fan...but I know that the Pack just STINKS right
>now.  

	How convienent. I dont like any teams, so I can laugh at all the
	losers. We shall see who wins the Bucs-Vikes game this weekend,
	but no matter what happens, I will still bleed purple.

	Mark Gresbach
	GO VIKINGS!
From: v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Moron
Date: 9 Sep 92 04:11:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
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In article <1992Sep9.014238.11411@math.ucla.edu>, rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu
                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>> All the rest can't cut it against the strong NFC defenses.  The
>> mighty Bills have proven this the last two years.
>                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>If you weren't such a moron you would've known that the Bills 
>were favored to win because of that and they lost because 
>their offense chocked, they missed the game winning field goal.
               ^^^^^^^
 blah...blah...blah...
>They played a hard schedule because they were in the Super Bowl the
               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I wouldn't call the following a tough schedule:
Tampa Bay, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis twice, Cincinatti, Green Bay, not to
mention a 8-8 jets team a rebuilding New England team and a decimated with
injuries Miami team. That's 12 games right there of teams with below .500
record. Of the remaining * 4 * teams they played they lost to Detriot,
got their asses kicked by KC, beat the Raiders in OT, and beat Chicago.

>year before, so they made it back but it was hard and took a lot
>out of the team.
I can see how this would take a lot out of a team. :}

>As for the Redskins, the yhad a cake schedule because they were 
                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>wimps the year before. 

First of all thewhich automatically means playing
at least four difficult games.(Philly & Dallas). Outside of that they 
played and defeated Houston, Detriot, Chicago, and Atlanta. That right 
there is 8 tough wins. And if you forgot they went 14-2 with this schedule.

>If San Fran does anything it's because of their easy schedule,
>they weren't even a playoff team last year.

And the 8-8 Jets team were. Does that mean the Jets are better than the 49er's
cause I know alot of people will diagree with you on that one. As for the 
49er's schedule it was tougher than Buffalo's.

La Raiders, New Orleans twice, Atlant twice, Detriot, philadelphia, KC,
and Chicago. That right there is 9 games against opponents with aove .500
record. 
>--
>Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu)
> 
>A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
>while others are doing.

I suggest next time you think before you make a MORON of yourself.
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