From: rcf@pnet01.cts.com (Bob Forsythe)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Fraternities (was: Re: E.W.- Average age of subscribers)
Date: 25 Jul 92 14:16:17 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet01], El Cajon CA

tarra@skat.usc.edu (Frat Boy) writes:
>>
>	Hey at least you tried something, congratulations, but why does that 
>mean you should be little what someone else did for the community?  Who are you
>to say your work as a crisis counselor did as much good as what a frat did 
>for some charity?  So you felt good about yourself before you went back to 
>boozing and being the same jerk you were.  As far as the frat "twerps" went
>how many of them did you call twerps to their face?  Also I didn't know SDSU
>was known for its academic aspects anyway, the only reason people I know even
>applied there is because it made the Playboy Top 10 party schools.
>>

     Coming from one of the foremost football factories in the country,
attacks on my school are high praise indeed.  I wasn't belittling community
work, just observing that most frat rats I've known really didn't care that
much for the community; they saw the work as something they "had" to do, not
something they wanted to do.  (Oh, and BTW, I know the guy Playboy talked to
before they did that 10 top party school article; he was editor of the school
newspaper at the time, and he lied through his teeth to them...must have come
as a real surprise to your partying buddies).

>
>Yeah we had a grad student adviser when I was in the Model U.N., and he thought
>he knew it all too.  He was a grass roots idiot as well way into liberalism
>and all that garbage, but I guess he was happy not being taken seriously by
>any of the other adults, like I'm sure you are.
>
>

     Nah, it was when I was an undergraduate dweeb that I though I knew it
all.  Much like you are now (probably more arrogant, though)

>
>	Did you have a good time spitting on our returning soldiers and calling
>them baby killers too?  Are you happy about you and your friends not supporting
>your fellow Americans and driving them into lives of misery?  Do you apologize
>to all the homeless veterans that you see for sending them hate mail when
>they were thousands of miles from home facing death every day?  You guys were
>great.  Maybe if you weren't so strung out in the 60's you could have protested
>without being so negative.  Maybe you could have made a change without 
>ostracizing your friends and neighbors that happened to get drafted.
>
>

     I was 15 when a friend's brother (and someone I very much looked up to)
died in Vietnam.  I had quite personal reasons for protesting that war.  And
it wasn't us kids from working class backgrounds who were spitting on
returning troops, it was rich little brats like you who didn't have to worry
about going, and hadn't lost any of their small circle of friends.  The same
ones who now drive Beemers and vote their pocketbooks because money is the
only love they have left in their hollow lives.  It was *my* friends and
neighbors who were fighting and dying, not theirs, and it was they that did
the ostracising, not me.  Their daddies got rich on defense contracts while
the working class kids died.  So it's not surprising they spit on returning
soldiers; it's something they did in one way or another every day anyway.

>
>
Bob c/o The OTH Gang
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