HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fl0p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Frank T Lofaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: major swap problem
Date: 12 Oct 92 10:56:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.ceqQdgq00WB=8TUIoN
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Sounds like your ps programs (ps, free, etc..) are confused.
Try doing a ps -U or a ps -U path_to_image_of_kernel path_of_swap_device
(e.g. ps -U /usr/src/linux/Image /dev/hda4). If that doesn't work, you
might
need to recompile ps.
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: looking for AST 4-port
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:02:15 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <Hoi7RB4w165w@questor.wimsey.bc.ca>, sp@questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Pershing) writes:

| Sure... there is a dumb 4-port card made by Boca.  It will support up to
| 8 ports (when upgraded) and uses an ST16C554 chip (quad 16550).  It has a
| row of RJ-45 connectors (8 of them) on the mounting bracket.
| 
| It comes with 4 db-25 to RJ-45 adapters, each with 6 pins wired.

  Unfortunately this is not enough to do modem control and hardware flow
control.

| I can sell you a new card (fresh out of the box) for US$135, equipped for
| 4 ports.  (Shipping and insurance from the state of Washington: $10.)

Thanks for the ad, here's a note from a satisfied customer of AST
clones.
================================================================
Date	9/2/92
Subject	Thanks! RE>>Cheap 4,8 port 
From	ron
To	Karl Bunch, bill davidsen, Steve Nuchia, Aubrey Soper, Jerry Wallace

        Reply to:   Thanks! RE>>Cheap 4,8 port 16550AFN 
Dear Everyone who responded to above query:

Thank you for your very valuable help! I've purchased an AST 4 port clone
from Altex Electronics (San Antonio, TX 1-800/531-5369) for $75. I purchased
some NS16550AFN chips (actually, my electronics distributor said that they
have been replaced with part #  PC16550CN, have you guys heard of this?) for
about $9 apiece and I'm off and installing.
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From: moyerg@rigel.cs.pdx.edu (gary a moyer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: lilo w/esdi and w/who problems
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:12:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxgate.6227

Well, firstly, I was curious if anyone else out there in Linux land
was sucessfull in getting lilo installed with and esdi disk controller.
For the following install:
#!/bin/sh
/etc/lilo/lilo -c -b /dev/hda -i /etc/lilo/boot.b $* \
	linux=/vmlinux                                   \
	new=/usr/src/linux/Image                         \

I get syntax error !?!  It won't even start to build the map file.
Is my presumption correct in that its the drive controller?

Secondly, I'm running a networked box that gets used by a few people.
However, I noticed that when people log out, they still appear
in the output from either w or who.  Furthermore, reboot will not
work if I have one of these "phantom" users showing up.

Running:
.98 kernel, tcpip.8.1

Oh yeah, has anyone seen or know of the whereabouts for passwd?
Its broke in the network sense (i.e. echo goes and doesn't come back)
and I think all it needs is a new compile with the 4.1 libs.

Thanks!



==
  Gary Moyer
  moyerg@cs.pdx.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: may@ug.cs.dal.ca (Bear)
Subject: Where is libg++?
Keywords: libg++
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:24:51 GMT

Can anyone tell me if there is a libg++ library for use with gcc so I
can compile my c++ code? I don't seem to have libg++.a or anything of
that type in my usr/lib directory.

I have installed:
	hlu rootdisk 0.98p1
	hlu gccdisk 2.2.2d
	hlu basedisk
	hlu libdisk


any help will be apprciated thanks

			Brian May
			may@ug.cs.dal.ca
From: Eric.Eskam@f234.n209.z1.fidonet.org (Eric Eskam)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Uncompress for DOS (ugh)
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:17:18 -0800

can anyone point out some SPECIFIC places to find uncompress/compress
for DOS?

Fido or Internet is OK...

Eric

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From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Subject: Re: Any mail or fakemail available for linux ?
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 01:40:22 GMT

maniac@cleanhead.cs.unlv.edu (Eric J. Schwertfeger) writes:

>is there a mail package available for linux?  I don't need it to
>send files accross the net, just so that users can leave messages
>to each other.

Try 'mailpak' (which consists of elm, smail, and uucp). I forgot
which version though (I think mailpak 1.3).

I had problem with delivering mail, eg from a user to another user.
It's got something to do with suid/sgid of the mail transport agent. 
So I downloaded 'procmail' and use it as a local MTA (lmail).
[I downloaded the source code for procmail, and compiled it without
a single change]. Works like a charm : elm + procmail + smail [+ uucp].
Now... I just have to get this uucp going.... 

[uucico dials the remote system, but doesn't execute the chat script as
expected. So it times out. Setting the -x to 5 or 10 didn't help.... 
since I couldn't see the msg. where did the debugging output go ?
Any recommendation on uugetty ? I'll try getty_ps.]


-- budi
-- 
Budi Rahardjo <rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
Unix Support - Computer Services - University of Manitoba
From: dpg@cs.nott.ac.uk (`Grave' Dave Gymer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Help needed to get top/ps/free working on 0.98
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:35:49 GMT
Organization: Nottingham University

In article <1992Oct8.121257.7541@jet.uk> gg@jet.uk (Gordon Grant) writes:
[...]
>This builds without error but when I try to run free I get:
>
>Symbol _swap_bitmap not found
>Trying to read invalid address.

Me too.  I thought it would be a similar solution to that described below, but it looks
like Linux can now do funky stuff like swapping on multiple files, so the old free just
won't work now.

>top gives a similar error but is looking for:
>_averunnable and _low_memory.

Just change the strings where they occur in the source to _avenrun and _low_memory_start,
and everything is fine.  I esp. like the new tload program (in fact, I liked it so much
I now start it up in a unused v. console from /etc/rc!).

Dave.
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From: Andreas.Mengel@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Andreas Mengel)
Subject: RAM-Disk, how do I use it ????
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:46:21 GMT
Keywords: RAM

Hi there!

Seeing the very nice installation-system SLS I recently came to wonder how
I possibly could make a bootdisk with the root on it myself.

Are there any special tricks involved in loading the ramdisk after the kernel
itself is loaded ???

Any help would be appreciated (I'll summarize if requested).

Thanx in advance ...
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From: quale@saavik.cs.wisc.edu (Douglas E. Quale)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Mount in rc
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:32:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: daffy.1992Oct9.193259.27814
Organization: Undergraduate Projects Lab, UW Madison

In article <1992Oct9.084821.1076@hemlock.cray.com> lord@hemlock.cray.com (Steve Lord) writes:
>
>Has anyone noticed how, when shutting down the system partitions are
>unmounted in the same order they were mounted? I have three partitions,
> /, /usr and /usr/src which get mounted in that order. When shutting
>down it fails to unmount / and /usr (in that order), no mention of
>/usr/src which should unmount since there is nothing using it. I don't
>have the code for mount, but if it defaults to mounting disks in the
>order specified in /etc/fstab, shouldn't it unmount them in reverse
>order?
>

This is a tiny bug in shutdown(8).  Umount(8) does the right thing (try
umount -a).
-- 
Doug Quale
quale@saavik.cs.wisc.edu
From: vitroth+@CMU.EDU (David M. Nolan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Two questions...
Date: 12 Oct 92 06:13:57 GMT
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I've got a couple of questions...
1: I've recently been given (read permanent loan) a three button mouse. 
I need to know if it's compatible with Linux, and if not how to make it
so...  It's a Mouse Systems Corporation "M-1 Mouse" (It's an optical
mouse [ick] but hey, it's free...)
 
2: I've got built into my computer an Oak Tech 512k SVGA card.  As far
as I can tell this is not compatible with Xfree86 (correct me if I'm
wrong)... I'm looking at buying a 1 meg SVGA card...  Somebody mentioned
the Orchid Prodesigner IIs card... Does anybody else reccomend it? 
(I've seen it listed as low as $140...  is there something better for a
comparable price??)

Okay.. so maybe it was a dozen questions rolled into two... but anyway...

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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|  | ' _|_   _  _  _|_ | _  | we've never encountered before.  Reality is a
|  | |  |  |/  / \  |  |/ \ | relative term.  Relativity is magic, any way
 \/  |  \/ |   \_/  \/ |  | | you look at it. -- vitroth+@cmu.edu
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From: aclark@netcom.com (Al Clark)
Subject: Re: iostreams in libg++, NIHCL for linux?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:00:50 GMT

In article <garyt.719078355@lgc.com> garyt@lgc.com (Gary Thompson) writes:
>I finally got my hands on a 386 box and just installed Linux for
>the first time using the new SLS package and everything went 
>smoothly.
>
>However, I was unable to get anything using iostreams in C++ to
>successfully link.  It appeared that the iostreams were not part
>of the libg++ that came with the SLS distribution.  Is there a
>a complete libg++.a somewhere?
>
>Along similar lines, has anyone ported the NIH class library to
>Linux yet?
>
>My sincerest thanks and respect to everyone who has contributed
>to this fantastic package (I hope to contribute some as well) !!
>
>Gary
>--
  I am using 2.2.2d without jumptables, and ostream functions like
       ___ls__FR7ostreamPv
  are found with no problem.  But I have another problem.
  (How do I report compiler problems/bugs to FSF???).

  I have been using g++ in a C++ class.  The only problem I have
  found is with a friend function overloading "<<" for a class. 
  I can't make it work for a template at all, and I have to patch the
  .s file to make it work as a specific type.  It generates the routine
  but doesn't call it when an object of the class is referenced.  
  (The overloaded function is there, but not called). The call it does
  generate is the one that is used for the address of the object.  I do
  a patch like the following one and it works:

*** cca00056.s	Wed Oct 14 12:49:56 1992
--- savemode.s	Wed Oct 14 12:48:36 1992
***************
*** 200,203 ****
  	pushl -16(%ebp)
  	pushl $_cout
! 	call ___ls__FR7ostreamPv
  	addl $8,%esp
--- 200,203 ----
  	pushl -16(%ebp)
  	pushl $_cout
! 	call  ___ls__FR7ostreamPt8database1Zi
  	addl $8,%esp

Anyone got any suggestions???

-- 
Al - aclark@netcom.com - My opinions are my own.
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From: meetch@DIALix.oz.au (Mitchell Brandsma)
Subject: Re: Chicken and egg: How was the first linux gcc binary created??
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 04:15:23 GMT
Keywords: gcc linux egg chicken soup

In <1992Oct10.124926.12423@engr.uark.edu> tep@engr.uark.edu (Tim Peoples) writes:

>   As I was standing in the shower this morning I was thinking (I do
>my best thinking in the shower) "How did Linus generate that first
>gcc binary?"  This was prompted by a newbie question about compilers
>where he said something like "I can't compile a compiler until I have
>a compiler to compile it."

Gcc can be compiled with cc.  Then to optimize it you'd normally recompile
gcc with itself.  Ah, but then how did cc come about ?  Yes, it can get
interesting.  One thing I'd be interested in finding out is how much RAM +
swap space it takes gcc to compile itself.

>   I guess Linus is the only one who can answer this but I figured it
>would also be of general interest.  So Linus, how'd ya do it???

My question is how did cc get compiled (or was it carefully written in
assembler)?  The chain must end somewhere.

Happy hacking, and remember: GCC RULZ!

- Mitchell Brandsma (meetch@DIALix.oz.au :)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: umisef@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Bernd Meyer)
Subject: Re: Of Mice and TeX
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 04:12:11 GMT

talley@ashleigh.Kodak.COM (Brian K. Talley) writes:

>    2. Someone a short while back mentioned something about a front end to
>       TeX.  S/he implied that it was a wysiwyg editor of sorts based on TeX
>       and that it had been ported to Linux.  Does anyone have more info on
>       this they could pass on to me (like where to get it)?

The front end you mentioned is the application doc, a sample application
from the InterViews package. BTW, I found out by now that it only uses
something CLOSE TO LaTeX as an internal represantation of data, it never
even touches TeX.
doc is somewhere between ALPHA and BETA state - out of the box (this is,
the best way you may get it right now) it has two annoying bugs. First of all,
it doesn't use cursor keys (this is due to cursor keys not returning any
charater to XLookup<something>, and I have an ugly fix for it, which goes
into the library, I think). The second bug is that it only recognizes left
mousebutton, the middle and right one are ignored. This is really bad, as 
you move and place lots of things with them. I have no idea why it behaves
like this yet, but I try to track it down (though my studies with oncoming
tests will delay this a little :-( ). Also, there is a new version (3.1beta3)
of InterViews available, so I'll probably try to get that one and work on with
it (lack of time also applies here). So please, right now doc is mainly for
looking what it could be like someday - or for writing hust plain text.

So long,
     Bernie

umisef@mcshh.hanse.de

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: graham@uoregon.edu (Dan Graham)
Subject: Re: Writing Linux disks on Sun
Reply-To: graham@uoregon.edu
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 01:55:00 GMT

I use pax on a Sparcstation 2 to write multi-volume  files.  
Linus Pax reads them without problem IF they have no bad
blocks.  Pax seems to try and write over bad-blocks on the
Sparc.  Check the disks first, or check the Pax'ed file 
against the original(s).
From: Eddie.Ku@f1.n2250.z1.fidonet.org (Eddie Ku)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Yet another beginner ques
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 12:22:00 -0800

hi. 
im having the same problem that you were describing. 
i would like you to know you resolved that?

re:  no space left on device

i have my 80+ meg hard drive (ide)

1.  partition dos, 10meg, active, boot 
2.  partition linux, 30meg, active, boot, fs / 
3.  partition swap, 10meg, linux swap partition 
4.  partition extended, 30meg, linux /usr

oh, 1-3 are primary and 4 ia logical partition

thanks


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Subject: Re: Problems with 0.98 and serial ports
From: system@kryton.UUCP (Scott Beckstead)
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 18:57:34 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:

>    From: liljeber@hydra.Helsinki.FI (Mika Liljeberg)
>    Date: 3 Oct 92 09:30:13 GMT
> 
>    Um, this loop-back feature can't go on by accident, I hope? I've been
>    having a weird intermittent problem lately (0.97pl6 and 0.98, I think).
>    All of a sudden, in the middle of a kermit session, the send/receive
>    leds on the modem light up brightly and the flow control leds start
>    blinking madly -- and kermit starts spewing garbage. Resetting the
>    modem doesn't help (Oh it hangs up the line, of course, but the send
>    and receive leds remain brightly lit). This sound a lot like a wayward
>    UART in loop-back mode and kermit echoing madly. :-) I have to reboot
>    the machine to get the serial line working reliably again.
> 
> No, this isn't the loopback mode; the loopback mode is internal to the
> UART, so anything sent to the UART is wrapped back to the receive
> buffer, instead of being sent out to the RS-232.  Thus, if you turned on
> the loopback mode by accident (which you wouldn't be able to do without
> mucking with the kernel), your modem would stop working with the
> send/receive lights off.
> 
>    The relevant equipment is: 16550AN UART and US Robotics HST Dual Standard.
>    Uugetty from the getty_ps packaged handles the dialup line. I'm using
>    rts/cts flow control and a fixed DTE rate of 38.4kbps.
> 
> .... and earlier you talked about the flow control LED's blinking madly.
> Are you using a non-standard serial driver, per chance?!?  The one
> included in 0.97pl6 and 0.98 (i.e., mine) doesn't do RTS/CTS flow
> control.  Or at least, it doesn't toggle the RTS line, although it does
> honor the CTS line from the modem.  
> 
> (I have a version which does toggle the RTS line, but it hasn't been
> released yet.)
> 
> This sounds more like the modem going insane, or possibly a serious bug
> in the serial driver.  I never seen this problem before, though, and
> I've been making a point of stress-testing the serial driver.  If you
> could debug it some more, and send me any information you can, I'd
> appreciate it.
> 
> 						- Ted

This sounds like a problem I had with early HST modems.  Happens at
random intervals and is the modem going nuts.  Try powering down the
modem long enough for kermit to time out and then reset the serial port.
Otherwise it could be the serial card (assuming external modem) if the modem
is internal then you're screwed.
Scott



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From: arumble@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Anthony Rumble)
Subject: Re: twm hangs machine under 97pl6 and XFree86-1.1 HELP!
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 12:16:54 GMT

charlto@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Michael Charlton) writes:

>Hello.  I'm running linux version 0.97 patch level 6 (patched
>from mcc-interim 97pl2) on a 33Mhz 486 with 16M of memory.  I just
>installed XFree86-1.1 and have gotten to the point where it will come
>up with an xterm (mouse works fine as well).  All the executables run
>except for twm and xtetris (x11emacs hangs the system as well).  As soon
>as I try to run twm, xtetris or x11emacs, the system hangs (locks up
>really good -- have to press the reset button).  I have the 4.1 jumptable
>libraries installed as well (although I haven't gotten around to upgrading
>my gcc to that yet).

twm works for me, but I can't get xtetris to work.. although it
doesn't hang my system..

Haveint tried X11emacs..

Anthony
-- 
Anthony Rumble
aka SmilieZ
"Anything is possible.. If there is enuf money in it"
From: dlj0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DAVID L. JOHNSON)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: xpaint-2b2 oddities
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:12:42 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

I got and compiled the new version of xpaint (xpaint-2b2.tar.Z is what to
look for - there are two versions around, get the one that has about
100K bytes compressed - the other one is buggier).  It works great on my
office machine, but has problems under linux that someone might know how to
fix.

If I start it while enough other stuff is running that I have occupied all
real memory, it runs fine.  It's really quite nice - allows you to edit any
ppm bitmap file as well as create your own modern art.  You can paint
moustaches on your scan of the Mona Lisa if you want to.

But, if I start it while there isn't a lot else loaded in ( I think this'd
happen whenever there is real memory left) it will bring up the palette of
tools, but crashes when you call up either a new drawing window or load in
a file.  I guess it's some sort of malloc problem.

Anyone know how to deal with this?  Anyone else using this program?  

it may be that this problem has disappeared in newer versions of linux - I
will probably wait until 1.0 to upgrade from 0.96b/gcc-2.2.2.  Maybe this'll
convince me to change that opinion.

-- 
Sincerely,

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Department of Mathematics

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: minyard@bnr.ca (Corey Minyard)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: busmouse problem with 0.98.1
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:46:04 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.


I have figured out what the problem with my busmouse was.  The busmouse
code was not clearing mouse.wait at initialization; apparently the memory
tests of my machine do not leave zeroes in memory, so therefore a segment
violation on the wake_up() call to mouse.wait.

Anyway, add the line:

        mouse.wait = NULL;

at then end of initialization for every busmouse routine and you will be
safe.


-- 
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Corey Minyard
Xref: sparky comp.os.linux:12786 comp.unix.bsd:7040
From: dd2x@ANDREW.CMU.EDU (David Eugene Dwiggins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd
Subject: Re: Motif for 386BSD
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:02:44 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

GWM does a very, very slow emulation of mwm.

And it doesn't emulate it exactly, either.  It doesn't look quite as polished.

It is a nice product, I just don't think it makes a good mwm substitute.

Gene
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: eichin@athena.mit.edu (Mark W. Eichin)
Subject: SLS gcc 2.2.2d dies building kernel...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:39:36 GMT

I installed 0.98 SLS from the a* packages a few days ago (and posted
about it.) I've pulled over all of the updated packages, done
sysinstall -install foo.taz on all of them (also redid the ones in a3
and a4, since they've changed, though I didn't do anything with the
new a2.)
	So I went into /usr/src/linux (btw. why doesn't dosemu.taz
unpack into /usr/src/dosemu or something, rather than top level
/usr/src?) set the build device in the Makefile, enabled tcp in
net/Makefile, and did a make (from inside of emacs.) It gets pretty
far, but then when doing fs/minix/namei.c, I get "cc1 got fatal signal
11". gdb isn't much help (cc1 has no symbol table).
	Any idea why the SLS compiler can't build the SLS kernel
sources? I figured it had been used for that at least once, so maybe
I've misinstalled something (doesn't seem likely though...)
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