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From: William "Chops" Westfield <billw@regal.cisco.com>
Subject: Re: PPP for PC
Date: 19 Aug 92 19:43:04 PDT

    I would like to connect PC's with MSDOS with cisco terminal
    server via modems and dial-up PPP ( asynchronous ).
    Do you know any software package with this capability ? 
    ( I have heard that ka9q would be one of the choices )

The cisco terminal servers do not support async PPP until the 9.1
release.  If you have a cisco-500 terminal server, it already has
9.1, otherwise, it is still in beta test.

KA9Q is one choice.  We have also tested against the Merit version of
NCSA telnet with PPP packet driver - works fine.  FTP software has a
version that supports PPP too, I think.

BillW
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans,comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.fddi,comp.dcom.lans.misc,comp.dcom.sys.cisco,comp.dcom.servers
From: pomeranz@irving.nas.nasa.gov (Hal R. Pomeranz)
Subject: Seeking technical BOF session leaders
Followup-To: poster
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 16:48:04 GMT


The upcoming World Conference on Network Administration and Security
(Washington D.C., Nov 30- Dec 4) is seeking chairs for its evening
Birds of Feather (BOF) sessions.  We would like to find individuals
with significant operational experience with popular networking and
network management hardware and software to facilitate discussions
between users and vendors.  Exactly which networking solutions will
have BOFs will be entirely determined by response to this posting, so
jump in now if you would like to have your issues discussed.  For
more information on chairing a BOF, or on the conference in general,
(yes, we're still accepting abstracts for peer-reviewed papers) contact:

	Technical Program Chairman
	Hal Pomeranz				pomeranz@nas.nasa.gov
	NASA Ames Research Center		(415) 604-4318
	M/S 258-6
	Moffett Field, CA  94035-1000

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.dcom.lans.misc
From: skl@wimsey.bc.ca (Samuel Lam)
Subject: Re: SMC BBS#
Reply-To: skl@wimsey.bc.ca (Samuel Lam)
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 20:37:59 GMT

In article <MOSBROOK.92Aug15190459@beach.csulb.edu>, mosbrook@beach.csulb.edu
 (Brent Mosbrook) wrote:
>I have a couple arcnet cards, and I need to get drivers/switch settings
>any possible FTP sites?

Try sjf-lwp.corp.sjf.novell.com:odi/smc-wd/arcnet/arcnet30.zip (~310K).

The unzipped components are also available in the same directory.

...Sam
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From: DART@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (415)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Fiber transceiver problems.
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:24:57 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

Does anyone have any experience with ODS fiber optic transceiver extenders?
I have a DEC LAN150, I've also tried a LAN100, connected across about 550 m
of 62.5 fiber and a pair of ODS FOTs.  This link typically works fine for a
while, about an hour, then suddenly the bridge sees a burst of CARRIER LOSS
errors and then resets.  At this time I loose all connections across the
bridge and they have to be reestablished.  This makes me very popular with
my users as you can imagine.  The CARRIER LOSS error occurs when the bridge
cannot sense a packet that it puts out on the network.

I have tried new fiber end-to-end, I've tried 3 different bridges,  I've
tried a second pair of ODS transceivers, and I've replaced the transceiver
on the cable that the other end of the FOT is plugged in to.

Thank you,
Marty L. Dart,
Network Engineer,
Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
"We're catching our Z's!" - not our motto, but I like it.
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.docm.lans.novell
Subject: Windows 3.1 & TN3270
From: aviray@zeus.calpoly.edu (Alex(is) Viray)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:49:54 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.misc
Subject: Windows 3.1 & TN3270
Summary: System locks up when task switching or exiting TN3270 
Distribution: usa
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Keywords: TN3270  WINDOWS 3.1  

Currnently we are using Novell 3.11 with it's TCP/IP transport to communicate 
with our campus network.  

Windows 3.1 is used as our user interface and so we would like to eliminate
Novell's menuing system and go directly into windows and run our applications from there.

Whenever we want to make a connection to any of our IBM hosts we use the TN3270 program.  The problem is that sometimes the workstation would blank out and lockup that we would have to power down the workstation.  Sometimes if and when we could exit out of TN3270, to return to windows, we would receive an EMM386 error.

We are using 3com's 3c523 NIC on a PS/2 Model 55sx.  I thought the problem was
related to the NIC and I talked to a tech support rep from there.  His response
was to set the EMMExclude, in system.ini, equal to the packet address of the NI
C.  Also set the X parameter in EMM386 equal to the same address.  The problem with the X parameter in EMM386 was that the starting address was to high!  AFter looking at the configuration on the 55sx, the NIC packet address is D8000-Dffff.Refering to the Dos manual tells me that this is too high.

Does anyone know what is wrong, or has heard of this problem?  

Please respond to aviray@pan.calpoly.edu

Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: SYSNET@engvax.picker.com (Leonard A. Visconti)
Subject: Extending ethernet over fiber
Organization: PICKER INTERNATIONAL
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 03:07:38 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

We have two buildings connected via 11,000 feet of multimode fiber. In
order to link the networks at these two sites I proposed the configuration 
below:


	---------                   fiber                     ---------
net	|	|    ----------                 ----------    |	      |   net
--------|router	|----|repeater|-----------------|repeater|----|router |--------
 	|	|    ----------                 ----------    |       |
 	---------                                             ---------
 
            Site A					Site B

From what I understand, the distance between the two repeaters exceeds both 
the 802.3 and FOIRL specs. The fiber repeaters I am looking at are extended
distance models which should work over this distance --- the loss in our cable 
has been measured at 9db and these repeaters have a loss budget of 22db. 

As for the ethernet segment length, it's my understanding that the maximum
allowable cable length is due to, besides signal attenuation, to propagation 
delay, minimum packet size and proper collision detection. These variables are 
all related. In other words, one station at the extreme end of the cable could 
transmit the smallest packet and still be assured of sensing a collision from 
a station at the other extreme. 

Because the fiber between the two routers allows for full duplex, this 
issue of collision detection is not an issue. Each router has its own 
transmit and receive path. Does this sound right or am I way off here? I
welcome any comments anyone might have. Thanks in advance....




-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|  Leonard A. Visconti 			Picker International                  |
|  Network Analyst			595 Miner Road			      |
|  visconti@picker.com			Highland Heights, Ohio  44143         |
|					(216)473-4801                         |
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From: paul@alantec.com (G. Paul Ziemba)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Re: 10baseT crossover cable
Keywords: 10baseT, crossover
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:32:03 GMT

bartont@next2.msci.memst.edu (Tom Barton) writes:

>What's the correct way to wire a 10baseT crossover cable? I'd like to make a
>two station lan using twisted pair and no hub. The ethernet adapters I'll use
>have an RJ45 connector. Also, is it necessary to wire the RJ45's with all 4
>pairs?

You need only two pairs in order to make an ethernet UTP crossover cable.
Here's how we wire ours:

	rj45 #1 pin numbers	rj45 #2 pin numbers
	-------------------	-------------------


		1 --------------------- 3
		2 --------------------- 6
		3 --------------------- 1
		6 --------------------- 2




      RJ45 CABLE CONNECTOR - end-on view (cable extends back into the page)


		      contacts here
		+------------------------+
		|                        |
		| 8  7  6  5  4  3  2  1 |
		|                        |
		|                        |
		+--+                  +--+
		   |                  |
		   +------+----+------+
			  |    |
			  +----+
			   tab

cheers,

 ~!paul
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From: georger@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: Remote access of PC via TCP/IP
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:13:57 GMT

In article <pb.714048125@atperf.idca.tds.philips.nl>, pb@idca.tds.philips.nl (Peter Brouwer) writes:
> X-Disclaimer: This opinion is mine alone
> 
> In <1992Aug14.094141.1@kean.ucs.mun.ca> georger@kean.ucs.mun.ca writes:
> 
>>In article <Bss3DE.86C@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, eengelke@steam.uwaterloo.ca (Erick Engelke) writes:
>>> 
>>> There is a freeware program called TELNETD which can provide simple
>>> TELNET access to PCs.  It is ftpable from sunee.uwaterloo.ca 
>>> [129.97.50.50] in pub/wattcp/telnetd.zip.
>>> 
> 
>>  I am very interested in the TELNETD type application for DOS because it is
>>a possible solution for proving access to DOS applications (CD-ROM databases as
>>an example) across a TCP/IP network.
> 
> If you want file sharing over a network you might consider NFS or the use of a
> SMB server.
> We have both products in out DECadvantage platform ( 80X86 Unix server and
> MSDOS PC as clients ).
> The DOS PC has connections to a server based on either TCP/IP or OSI.
> On top of this you can use the SMB server.
> 
> 
> --
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  The classic problem with CD-ROM database applications is that one needs both
file sharing AND the DOS environment to access them.  File sharing is not really
a problem but accessing DOS applications to run the retrieval software for the
CD-ROMs is a major problem.  Because the applications were designed for the
DOS environment one gets into terminal emulation problems when accessing via
non-PC oriented systems.  The applications typically also are quite heavy
in DOS system requirements so that it is not easy to run the applications
using DOS emulators on other systems.

George Beckett
Health Sciences Library
Memorial University of Newfoundland
GEORGER@KEAN.UCS.MUN.CA
From: pollock@milton.u.washington.edu (Joe Pollock)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Re: What wire for outdoors?
Date: 16 Aug 92 23:32:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Aug16.233246.10672
Organization: The Evergreen State College

In article <1992Aug13.205311.7562@sci34hub.sci.com> gary@sci34hub.sci.com (Gary Heston) writes:
>They use equipment designed for the application. 10Base2 cable and cards
>aren't designed to handle lightning strikes; they're designed for indoor
>use. Cable TV amps include protective circuitry to bypass big spikes to
>ground safely. (There are protective devices for thin coax, if you insist.)
>
>Run fiber, through conduit of some kind. 400' of plastic conduit should
>cost about $80 or so, and will help protect it.
>
>If you absolutly insist on coax, call Belden and see what they have in
>RG58A/U designed for outdoor use. Expect to pay for it.
> 

Is this really all this much of a problem?  First of  all, you could
put the coax into the plastic conduit, which I assume would be
buried.  The black-jacketed RG cables are designed for outside use -
they are sunlight-resistant.  Amateur radio operators often use this
stuff outdoors :-)

There may be a problem with the Ethernet requirement for a single-point
ground, however.  If you look at a cable installation, there is normally
a lightning arrestor at the entrance box, and a connection to the house
ground.  Similar devices are available for 50 ohm coax, made, I believe,
by Alpha Delta, but will probably cause ground loop problems if used at
both ends.  Any communications engineers out there willing to talk about
the risks of a short run of buried coax with ground/arrestor at one end?

If you should go fiber, compare the cost of fiber-based NIC's to the
alternative of an add-on fiber transceiver (~$350 list).  The fiber pair
(with connectors) will probably be $400-$500 in that length.  If you are
looking at several stations, a fiber repeater might be needed.

Have you considered twisted pair, with telco-type protection devices at
each end?  At 400', you could probably get away with this for a pair of
stations, particularly if you used Level 5 data wire.  

BTW - do you have a direct route between houses, or is there a 
possibly non-cooperative neighbor in the middle? :-)
From: jon@alpha.ee.ufl.edu (Jon Mellott)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: NDIS Driver for Ungermann-Bass NIC/ps2 Card
Keywords: NDIS, Ungermann-Bass NIC/ps2
Date: 20 Aug 92 01:10:17 GMT
Organization: EE Dept at UF

I don't normally read this group so I don't know if this is an appropriate 
question or whether the answer is contained in a FAQ somewhere that I haven't 
seen, so here goes...

We've got an Ungermann-Bass NIC/ps2 card in an IBM PS/2 Model 80 (preproduction 
unit). The machine has been here since before my time and we only recently 
became interested in actually using the card. Anyway, lacking any documentation 
for this beastie, I'm searching for an NDIS driver (for use with PC-NFS). 
If anybody knows where I can get this driver (or possibly Ungermann-Bass' 
address/phone, failing all else) I'd really appreciate it. 

Please e-mail and I'll summarize (if it's warranted). 

Thanks in advance,

Jon Mellott
High Speed Digital Architecture Laboratory
University of Florida
(jon@alpha.ee.ufl.edu)
From: ojuarez@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx (Octavio Juarez Espinosa)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Looking info about performance (latency) in ethernet
Summary: Help
Keywords: latency in ethernet and fddi
Date: 21 Aug 92 00:20:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: mtecv2.5985
Organization: I.T.E.S.M. Campus Monterrey



Hi,

I'll appreciate if you send me information about ethernet latency.
and Fddi latency.
Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,

Octavio Juarez Espinosa
ojuarez@mtecv2.mty.itesm.mx

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From: sandrock@leo.scs.uiuc.edu (Mark Sandrock)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet,comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: Re: Multi-port AUI transceivers (suggestions?)
Date: 13 Aug 92 21:21:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

etsiao@joule (Eddie Tsiao) writes:

>Recently, I came accross a company (Andataco) that sells one made by Milan
>Technologies.  Most of the networks on campus here use Cabletron or TCL but
>the Milan is considerably cheaper ($425 as compared to about $750).  I was
>wondering if anybody has had any experience with this company and their
>products.  Are there any general problems I should be watchful of?  Also,
>how do I know if I need SQE(hartbeat), which the Milan is capable of?  
>Thanks in advance for any advice.

You may want to check out the article "Multiport transceivers mean trouble"
by Russell Dietz on page 15 of the June 22, 1992 issue of Digital News before
you decide to use a multiport transceiver to connect a bunch of high-traffic
machines to an Ethernet backbone. I'm phasing out our multiport transceiver.

Mark Sandrock
-- 
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505 S. Mathews Ave., Urbana, IL 61801	   perceive." -- Emerson
Email: sandrock@aries.scs.uiuc.edu
From: benningf@aurs01.uucp (EE Hardware Design Grunt)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Nat'l Semiconductor's Ethernet chips
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:56:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: (the real) Alcatel Network Systems, Raleigh NC

Greetings,

I'm a PCB designer for Alcatel, and I need to implement an Ethernet/
Cheapernet interface on a board.  I'm planning to use National
Semiconductor's DP83932B (Systems-Oriented Network Interface Controller)
and DP8392C-1 (Coaxial Transceiver Interface, second-sourced by Fujitsu
and Signetics/Philips).  I've looked at other vendors, like AT&T, NEC,
and Intel.  However, we compete against AT&T and NEC in the telecom
market, and I distrust Intel after that fiasco with their 4-Mbit and 
8-Mbit Flash memories.

So, does anyone out there have experience with National's parts?  Any
comments, criticism, or suggestions?  On the same board, I also plan to
use isolation transformers and filters from Pulse Engineering (PE-65727
and PE-65442) and a +5V/-9V DC/DC converter from either Reliability
(2VP5U9 or 2VI5U9) or KSL Microdevices (05M09).  Does anyone have any
comments about those vendors?

I appreciate any feedback.


Thanks,
       Robert

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Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
From: georger@kean.ucs.mun.ca
Subject: Re: Remote access of PC via TCP/IP
Organization: Memorial University. St.John's Nfld, Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 12:11:41 GMT

In article <Bss3DE.86C@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, eengelke@steam.uwaterloo.ca (Erick Engelke) writes:
> 
> There is a freeware program called TELNETD which can provide simple
> TELNET access to PCs.  It is ftpable from sunee.uwaterloo.ca 
> [129.97.50.50] in pub/wattcp/telnetd.zip.
> 
> There are two nice commercial programs with that sort of idea becoming
> available in the next month or so.  Comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc will
> probably discuss them in a few weeks.
> 
> Erick
> -- 
> Erick Engelke					  Engineering Computing
> 						 University of Waterloo
> Waterloo TCP Architect		 erick@development.watstar.uwaterloo.ca


  I am very interested in the TELNETD type application for DOS because it is
a possible solution for proving access to DOS applications (CD-ROM databases as
an example) across a TCP/IP network.  I would like to know what the 2 commercial
packages are that Erick is referring to.  I am aware of the Beam & Whiteside
product and DESQVIEW/X.  Is there another package about to come to market?

George Beckett
Health Sciences Library
Memorial University of Newfoundland
GEORGER@KEAN.UCS.MUN.CA
From: DEP@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Problem with ODS Fiber Optic Transceivers?
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:24:11 GMT
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

We have been having a lot of difficulty bringing up a fiber link
between two ethernets here. Each time we have introduced the fiber
link in place of the copper link, we begin to see a serious degradation
of network performance. The following is our engineer's report of our
latest attempt:

 > Action taken: (08/11/92 2330 DART)
 > ... One symptom that became
 > evident that was not obvious before was that the bridge connected to the
 > ODS FOT, Fiber Optic Transceiver, was getting a burst of CARRIER LOSS and
 > TRANSMITTED FRAMES LOST errors at times which corresponded with bridge
 > resets and sessions across the link being lost.  These error counters are
 > incremented when the bridge cannot detect it's own packet being sent
 > out on a line.
 >
 > These counters should be at or near zero, when the sessions dropped
 > we received sixty in 10 minutes.  Having swapped out everything else
 > it appears that the problem can only be with the ODS FOTs; they
 > appear to be failing to return the signal of a transmitted
 > packet.  This implies then that the bridge will be causing
 > illegal packets on the network; CRC and ALLIGNMENT errors.  If
 > the bridge cannot see it's own packets from time to time then it probably
 > can't see regular traffic on the network.  When the bridge sends packets
 > this way they will be lost; the bridge won't try a retransmit because it    s
 > sees no collision.
 >
 > We have tried two sets of ODS FOTs.  The first set was tried at High and Low
 > optic power.  The second set was tried on low power only.  Since the errors
 > could be caused by a weak signal from the FOT in the CGB I think we should
 > try both models that we have for this end with the High optic power setting.
 > I think the odds are in favor of there being a configuration problem with the
 > FOTs rather than all the FOTs being bad.
 >

We are interested to hear from anyone who can shed light on this problem and/or
anyone who has had experience with ODS or other vendors.

Don Pelton ( dep@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu )
From: n8735053@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Iain)
Newsgroups: comp.dcom.lans.ethernet
Subject: Re: Help with AE2 ethernet cards
Date: 14 Aug 92 00:20:33 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University

a_millsbs@ccsvax.sfasu.edu writes:
>I have aquired 2 Lantastic  AE2 16-bit Ethernet adapters.  I have no docs, no
>software, nothing but the cards.
>Can anyone out there give me any informations on them?  Does Artisoft have a
>BBS?  Are there packet drivers available for them.  Any help appreciated.
>Thanks in advance,
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>B. Scott Mills                            (409) 568-1134

Here some info for ya...

I beleive the AE-2 is NE-2000 (16 bit) ethernet board compatible.  I've seen
   some ratings which show it to be a _very_ fast 16 bit card.
*shrug*

ArtiSoft / LANtastic's number:   1-800-TINY-RAM   (Answers on first ring)

FaxFacts (602) 293-1397  from your FAX phone  listen to the instructions
    and push '2' for main list of 70 different FAXfacts to choose from.
    (Fax #101 is for AE-2, LANtastic 4.1 info is #100)

By the way, FAX #233 (5 pages) is on WOLLONGONG Pathway/Access (TCP/IP)
    connectivity information with LANtastic (great stuff!).

regular phone (602) 293-6363  and FAX (602) 293-8065




... I'm nothing but a perspective LANtastic / AE-2 purchaser and impressed
  with service and inexpensive costs.
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