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From: rrmcmil@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Robert McMillan)
Subject: Climate in Cicely
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 23:46:26 GMT

Just how warm IS the climate in Cicely anyway?

Some details make the climate look more like Washington than Alaska:
	1. What snow there is is always soft and slushy.      
	2. The buildings are made for temperate, not cold, weather.
		- Joel's front door has large see-through cracks
		  between the boards
		- All buildings have a single door leading straight
		  outside.  No double-doors (eg storm doors).  No
		  "airlocks" to prevent frigid winds from blowing
		  directly into houses, RuthAnne's store, Joel's office 
		  and the Brick.
	3. People's behaviour is definately from warmer climes:
		- Joel's fingerless gloves
		- People stand talking in open doorways in mid-winter
		- Winter clothing generally looks inadequate and
		  "poorly" arranged and worn.

What about it, Alaska netters, are parts of Alaska this warm? In the
south? Near the Coast? Anyplace?

-- 
Rob McMillan, Instructor	  | You know it's time to flip the steaks
Mechanical Engineering Technology |    ... when your beer freezes over.
Red River Community College	  |  --------------------------------
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada        |       rrmcmil@ccu.umanitoba.ca
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From: cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Cliff Chen)
Subject: NEXP Quotes Program (MSDOS) available for FTP
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 22:34:22 GMT

Well,
	I finally finished it.  It now resides in the
/pub/culture/tv+film/NorthernExposure directory of nic.funet.fi.
It is called nxq10.zip.
	This is the first version I feel is distributable.  The only
problem which remains with it is that it tends to take up quite a bit of
disk space (~300K).  It can be used to create an ASCII text file of all the
quotes if you so choose.
	It contains all the quotes from episode 1.1 through 4.10 (Crime &
Punishment).

					Cliff Chen
					cliff@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
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Subject: maurice sighting
From: SLAB3@DEVAX1 (Craig Green  8555241)
Date: 13 Jan 93 12:19:20 +1000
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I saw a movie last night called The Ratings Game, starring Danny DeVito. It
also had Maurice as the owner of a tv network. Has anyone else seen this???


Please do not 'reply' - I cant receive replies just yet. Either e-mail using the
internet address below or followup.

thanks,
Craig from Oz.

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From: gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga)
Subject: Suggested episode
Organization: Gizmonic Institute - Home of the "Big G Burger"
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Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 08:58:54 GMT


How about an episode where Maurice, the millionaire, gets kidnapped.  But,
he's done such a good job of "protecting" his money that no one can get
enough to pay the ransom.  This would require the female cop, Barbara, to
begin the search.

Of course, after finding out that no one will pay for Maurice (and they
find out why - his "personality") the kidnappers release him and cut their
losses.  Sure, it's been done on other shows.  But the NX cast could make
it good.  It also allows possible romantic interests to bloom again between
Barbara and Maurice.  She might show her true feelings if she thinks he's
really in danger.


Gordon
-- 
The opinions expressed are my own, and not the beliefs or opinions
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From: mbn@greyskul.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam)
Subject: Syndication (was Re: NEXP Sweatshirt Offer-Phone # (and Syndication news))
Reply-To: mbn@hfglobe.hf.intel.com (Mike Northam)
Organization: Shorter Software Solutions
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:06:38 GMT

>>>>> "h." == H. Nunes <hwnunes@leland.stanford.edu> writes:

h.> Ok, now for some syndication news.  MCA, parent company of Universal, is
h.> distributing the show for syndication and is breaking it down this way. 
h.> Lifetime, the womens cable network, is seemingly the only cable network
h.> interested enough in the show to pay the going rate of $300,000 an
h.> episode, down from MCA original asking price of $500,000 per NX episode. 
h.> This would make NX the most expensive show ever (the record is held by
h.> "LA Law" on Lifetime at a cost of $280K per episode), and I don't believe
h.> the cost per NX episode includes re-purchasing the rights to all the
h.> music used in each episode.  So it looks like Lifetime will be showing NX
h.> 5 to 7 times a week begining in the fall of '94.

_Multichannel News_ a cable trade publication, reported in their 1/4/93
issue that Lifetime has dropped out of the running (too expensive), so it
looks like it will be broadcast syndication only (that means local TV
stations, folks), beginning in the Fall of '94.

h.> What if you don't have cable?  MCA will be offering NX episodes to
h.> independent stations to air on the weekends.  It is not clear if they
h.> will charge these stations the price of $300K, or if they will give the
h.> shows to the stations for 'free' in exchange for six minutes of national
h.> comercial time.  This to should happen in the fall of 94.  Check local
h.> listings.

And don't forget that these will likely be fed via satellite, so this will
be an opportunity for everyone to fill in those missing episodes in their
video collections.  Hopefully, the episodes won't undergo too much editing
to make way for the increased commercial time allowed outside prime time.

Cross-posted to rec.video.satellite
--
Mike Northam, Shorter Software Solutions, on contract to Intel Corp.
(h) (503) 324-1831 (intel office) (503) 696-4860 (shorter) (503) 357-1010
mbn@hfglobe.hf.intel.com
"You ducks are really trying my patience...but you're SOOO cute. --Apu 9F01
From: A.M.T.Bell@daresbury.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: NX back in the UK
Date: 5 Jan 93 10:13:37 GMT
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

Hello

The second series of NX started on Channel 4 tv here in merrie englande last night.
This one had Joel being kidnapped by Adam and his wife and Maggie meeting Rick's
old girlfriend. It was good to have it back, its really weird but I like it :-)

How far behind are we in the UK from USA, how many seasons have there been of NX?
Last nights episode was made in 1991 (i think).

tony bell                 ! keep on running   live long and prosper
serc daresbury laboratory ! "back off man, i'm a scientist"
atb@uk.ac.dl.gserv1       ! bill murray - ghostbusters
From: alekz@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Alekz Vermont)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: New voice on car commercial?
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:23:37 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library

In article <1993Jan6.122737.13618@cas.org> lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
>Okay, in the past, Barry did a commercial for some car - I forget who.
>Janine of course is doing the series now.  Last nite I caught the last
>5 or 10 seconds of a new Isuzu commercial and it sure SOUNDED like Chris
>in the morning...  Anyone know for certain?

yes, it is him.  in fact, when i first saw the commericial, that NX sound
that comes on when CBS does the surround-sound thing (that high-pitched
sound) started off the commercial...most likely for the benefit of NX fans
that needed the added association to recognise _chris's_ voice.  IMHO, the
voice-over & sound-effect is a much more effective means of advertising.
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From: pwjarman@cc.utah.edu (PARRY W. JARMAN)
Subject: Re: Feminism in action...
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Date: 11 Jan 1993 16:58 MST  

In article <eFc9wB2w165w@student.business.uwo.ca>, m4safran@student.business.uwo.ca (Melissa Safran) writes...
{To paraphrase a very long message by Eric Forbis 
{(forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu)...
{ 
{"Welcome to feminism in action."
{ 
{Sorry, feminism is not about ganging up on males and blaming them for the 
{world's woes.  Just becuase Maggie (a made up character) on NX decides to 
{blame men for everything does not mean that feminists are all wackos who 
{blame men for everything.  Feminism is just about ensuring that women are 
{treated the same way men are.  Maggie kind of got confused about blame in 
{this one and overreacted, but that's Maggie.  The Net tends to agree that 
{Maggie was a little weird in this episode.
{ 
I'd like to throw in my two cents--
I agree with Melissa--and only want to add that Maggie tends to
Go to Extremes <no Brand/Falsey pun intended> GENERALLY. She always
looks for digs against Joel, even when the situation doesn't warrant it.
Joel seems to be the focal point of Maggie's rage in most NX
episodes <when rage is called for--there are exceptions, but she
usually bites his head off>.

And feminism is more than equality--feminism, to me, and I'm NOT
a NOW advocate by any means, is celebrating and discovering the
strength, power and uniqueness of being a woman. Feminism, to me,
does not equate with man-hating, rather learning to be a woman
<not a woman trying to be a man or imitate men> and draw strength
from femininity <not the frilly kind--women can be a force to be
reckoned with> and thus successfully hold their own in what is
honestly a man's world. Because I'm not a women's studies student
or a feminist by most standards, my views may be technically incorrect,
and completely off, but it's just MHO--   

Heather J.
From: mueller@aludra.usc.edu (Stephen Mueller)
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Subject: Re: 1/4 episode: YUCK
Date: 6 Jan 1993 12:04:22 -0800
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In article <1993Jan6.194320.12356@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> lmulcahy@nyx.cs.du.edu (Larry Mulcahy) writes:
>power to kill?).  This would explain a lot about the way she dresses
>and cuts her hair; from across the street you wouldn't be able to tell
>whether Maggie is a man or a woman.  And how about that scene with
         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I could tell.



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From: ummorea0@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Gene Moreau)
Subject: Re: Maggie's trench
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:15:07 GMT

In <1993Jan7.152523.28742@hemlock.cray.com> mlo@cray.com (Mick Oyer) writes:

>In article 1@uwovax.uwo.ca, 6011_5522@uwovax.uwo.ca () writes:
>>	What was Maggie doing anyways.  To be puting pipeing in the ground 
>>for her garden is ok but this trench was big enough for her to sit in. 


>Not to mention that the trench was maybe 4' below the surface (in Alaska!).
>As one who lives in a similar environment I got news for her ...
>The water in that pipe is gonna freeze SO solid.

Like she's going to be watering her garden in the winter.  All she has to
do is blow the line clear before winter and voila!(sp?) We do it at the
lake every year with no problems yet.


-- 
Gene Moreau                 | "Morning comes far to early when it's cold
University of Mantitoba     |  outside and there is a maniac on the loose"
Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada  |    - unknown
ummorea0@cuu.umanitoba.ca
From: julie@skatter.USask.Ca (Julie Abell-Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Historical accuracy of Maggie's claims?
Date: 10 Jan 1993 21:38:20 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan, Saskatoon, Canada
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From article <1ikemdINNlcf@shelley.u.washington.edu>, by vicka@wrq.com (the Littlest Orc):
  
  I think that Maggie wasn't concerned with what archaeologists, 
  present or future, male or female, might think of the site.  As 
  Maurice (?) said, it seemed like someone might have buried the 
  objects there *on purpose*, perhaps fairly recently.  Maybe Maggie 
  reburied them as a mark of respect for their original owner -- 
  she didn't like the idea of unburying the stuff for collectors 
  and archaeologists to squint at.  
  
  She also thinks of this kind of respect as a "female" value, opposed
  to the "male" value placed on opening up the site to prying eyes.
  (I don't know that values are really all that gendered myself, but
  since it got set up as Maggie/Marilyn/RuthAnn vs. Maurice/Ron&Eric,
  I can sure see why Maggie could see it that way.)
  
  cheers,
  --vicka						    vicka@wrq.com


I've often wondered about this "respect" thing when it comes to ancient
artifacts.  If I knew that in a few hundred years someone was going to
dig up something that I've handmade, and put it in a museum, I'd be
happy.  Mind you, I'm not crazy about the idea of excavating ancient
corpses, but the things I have made and used are things that I wouldn't
mind future generations seeing.  Does anyone agree with me?


Jules




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From: lmulcahy@nyx.cs.du.edu (Larry Mulcahy)
Subject: Re: 1/4 episode: YUCK
Summary: Maggie has been like a time bomb since she hit 30
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 19:43:20 GMT

>Agree totally.  Maggie's been wacko all year, and yesterday's
>attitude just makes me dislike her all the more.  I'm getting real
>tired of men being the root of all evil on TV these days.
>
>The shows this year have no connection.  

I think they are putting Maggie through a delayed adolescent crisis
triggered by her 30th birthday.  The little red riding hood dream gave
some important clues.  She has been denying her sexuality (and its
power to kill?).  This would explain a lot about the way she dresses
and cuts her hair; from across the street you wouldn't be able to tell
whether Maggie is a man or a woman.  And how about that scene with
Marilyn and Ruth Ann where they were looking at the unearthed womens
artifacts.  Ruth Ann comments on the bond between modern and ancient
women because they do the same things: cooking, sewing and bearing
children and Maggie had this "but I don't do any of those things"
expression on her face.

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From: wegeng.henr801c@xerox.com (Don Wegeng)
Subject: Re: 1/4 episode: YUCK
Reply-To: wegeng.henr801c@xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corp., Henrietta, NY
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 18:53:43 GMT

In article 112813CLINDSAY@vma.cc.nd.edu, <CLINDSAY@vma.cc.nd.edu> writes:
>The kid was a
>distraction: not too annoying, but what's the point with him?

I thought that the kid was there to support the main theme of the episode, which
seemed (IMHO) to be that we all have to find personal ways to live with larger-
than-life problems.  Maggie couldn't solve the global problem of men dominating
women, but she could do something at a personal level.  Ed couldn't solve the
threat of polution (though he tried, at first, with the documentary), but he could
do *something*  The kid had to deal (in a rather stupid way) with the sacrifices
that one must make for love.  The common thread seems to be that all three
characters were able to do something that allowed them to at least live with
these problems (the sub-plot with the kid seemed to be pushing things, but
he did add some humor to what otherwise could have been a very depressing
show).

Or at least this is what I think was happening.

/Don
wegeng.henr801c@xerox.com

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From: H. Nunes <hwnunes@leland.stanford.edu>
Subject: NX's David Schwartz gets Grammy nod for theme
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Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 07:45:57 GMT

Chalk up another award nomination for NX, and this one is of major
significance.

Lost in the Eric Clapton hype (I guess?) is the fact that the theme of NX
is up for a Grammy, the biggest music award in the business.  Why is the
theme nominated now, four years later?  Because of the just released NX
soundtrack containing the "Theme From Northern Exposure" composed and
performed by David Schwartz, the shows music director.  Here is what
appeared on the Mercury News/Knight-Ridder Wire Service.


INSTRUMENTAL COMPOSITION WRITTEN FOR A MOTION PICTURE OR TELEVISION: 
"Rush," Eric Clapton;  "Mambo Caliente," Arturo Sandoval;  "Theme From
Northern Exposure," David Schwartz;  "Beauty and the Beast," various
artists;  "Hook," various artists.
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From: H. Nunes <hwnunes@leland.stanford.edu>
Subject: Re: Why I Liked Survival of the Species
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 22:29:06 GMT

In article <5JAN199310512341@cc.utah.edu> PARRY W. JARMAN,
pwjarman@cc.utah.edu writes:
>BTW, I didn't like the political undertones of enviornmentalism
>or of feminism--some of Ed's propaganda sounded suspiciously
>like pseudo science, but I took it with a grain of salt and
>thoroughly enjoyed the show....

I am always laughing when I hear the environmental babble spewed out by
Mike, Maggie... and now Ed.  I just hope that they are not meaning to be
serious.

>I mean really, I think the worst show ever was Heros--or "Chris
>flings a casket"

I probably have to agree, when you use the trebuchet a second time, it
cheapens the experience.
From: wheelan@cs.mcgill.ca (Bill Heelan)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Maurice's quote, etc.
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:18:07 GMT
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada


  For those who are interested, Maurice's (almost) exact words were:

    <sotto voce>

    You know, Maggie, fairies are the perfect people to do this kind of
    work.  Biologically, their upper bodies are strong enough to wield a
    pick-axe, but tempermentally they're, uh -- precise and meticulous.


  Ob. opinion:

    I think the show would have been more effective if Joel had been given
    a chance to respond to Maggie's statements, and _then_ had his counter
    arguments shot down.  As it was, in any encounter it was the man who
    seemed to be the victim, causing us to have less sympathy for Maggie.

    Also, does it bug anyone else that in arguments or discussions between
	Joel and Maggie (in other episodes), that it is Joel who is the
	rationalist?  It seems to me that his is usually the more credible
	viewpoint.  (Of course, it may be my science background that has warped
	me in this way! :-) Is it because Joel is a doctor, or a man?  If the
	roles were reversed (and the doctor were a woman), would she be the
	rationalist?

    And another thing! :-)  Do all the profound utterances have to come from
    books?  Maybe people would find Chris more likable if it seemed his
    character was a little deeper, at the expense of being a little less well
    read.  Maybe I would have liked the ending of this episode even more if
    Maggie had said, "_I_ have something to say, ...".

    Anyway, I still think the show is great...

                                                              - Bill
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From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: 1/11 Episode "Revelations"
Date: 12 Jan 1993 22:29:30 GMT
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WVOSS@novell.com (Wes Voss) writes:

> >! What really shocked my about the whole Chris and Simon thing was the
> >fact that Simon DID turn out to be a woman.  It was so predictable, I
> >didn't think they would take that route, then again, it was pretty much
> >their only choice.  Any ideas why they decided to make her name Chris? 
> >Was it just to get that Twilight Zone effect?
> 
> I guess I was the only one who was suprised by the fact she was a woman.
> I admit, I was uncomfortable watching Chris kiss what appeared to be a guy.
> (Does that mean I'm homophobic?...)

I thought that "Brother Simon" would turn out to be a woman but dismissed
it as being too obvious for NX.  However, they did do something interesting
with that story at the end.  Chris's "revelation" was profound (though I
don't agree with his philosophy) and his encounter with "Brother Simon"
was integral to it.

-- 
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From: sharonc@meaddata.com (Sharon Crichton)
Newsgroups: alt.tv.northern-exp
Subject: Re: Holling sings
Date: 6 Jan 1993 21:04:44 GMT
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In article <10912@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>, ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
|> Tim Kresse (kresse@helios.phy.ohiou.edu) wrote:
|> : and has a great singing role with the "Slaves, Molasses and Guns" song.
|>                                                               ^^^^
|> I haven't seen 1776 in a long time, but I'm pretty sure that is "Rum".
|> It refers to a very lucrative trade triangle that the Southern colonies
|> didn't want to lose.

OK, I wasn't going to nitpick on a followup, but since Bill already tried to
correct it once...

The song is "Molasses to Rum to Slaves" - that's what a friend's album of
"1776" says is the name of the piece. If that's not the official title, then
they've misprinted the album.

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From: karell@cs2.lamar.edu
Subject: 1/11 episode SPOILER
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 19:08:08 GMT

Hey guys,

I'm new to this board, but after last night's episode, I just had to
put in my $.02.

Last night's episode was really strange--I think that somewhere on a 
subconscious level, Chris knew that 'Brother Simon' was a woman, and
that, combined with the mystery surrounding her, is what provoked his
erotic dreams.  Regardless, I found his in-depth discourses on his
attraction to women very intriguing.  In other words, I WANT CHRIS!!!
(I was highly relieved to find out Brother Simon was a woman, I was 
starting to worry about him.)

This is just my humble opinion.

Mindy

Karell@cs0.lamar.edu
  
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