From: press2@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (barry.o.olson)
Subject: Re: MIND-CONTROL By ORTHODOX Religions
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:34:35 GMT
Summary: me too...but with different results

In article <1992Oct6.172212.1569@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, mcelwre@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:
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>                        MIND-CONTROL by ORTHODOX Religions
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>                For the first twenty years of my life I was a Missouri 
>           Synod Lutheran.  For six years during grade school, I had to 
>           attend church and Sunday school nearly every week.  Every 
>           Saturday I was forced to WASTE a lot of time memorizing Bible 
>           verses and quotations from Martin Luther, for recitation 
>           during Sunday school.  Most of these memorizations were about 
>           Lutheran DOCTRINE, rather than Christian living.  This is 
>           MIND-CONTROL. 

I was raised in the WELS(Wisconsin Evangelical Lutheran Synod). I had
to go every sunday for indoctrination classes to memorize the creeds,
the ten commandmants, the meanings of the ten commandmants, and Martin's
shoe size(just kidding on that one).

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>                For two years during 7th and 8th grades, I had to spend 
>           Saturday mornings attending "Confirmation Class".  During 
>           each of those two years we had to go through a long list of 
>           memorizations (MIND-CONTROL) for the class. 
> 
Me too, although the terror I was, they probably wished I'd stayed
home. I couldn't understand why I needed to know these things.

>                Several times during the second year we had to get up in 
>           front of the congregation and recite quotations or respond to 
>           questions fired at us by the preacher.  The intensity of such 
>           experiences makes them a form of MIND-CONTROL.  So was the 
>           public "Confirmation" ceremony at the end of the two years. 

We(me and the others kids in the class)had to sit in the front row
of the church with a note sheet and jot doen what the preacher was
preachin'. My sheet consisted of war scenes with jet fighters flying
over tanks and blasting them. Some scenes depicted tanks shooting
back at the jet fighters. That's what I usually turned in to the pastor.

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>                All of this was backed up by stated and implied promises 
>           of Heaven and THREATS of ETERNAL TORTURE in Hell.  They 
>           actually had me believing that a God of LOVE would send 
>           people to BURN IN HELL FOREVER just for failing to believe 
>           the teachings.  Such a SCARE-TACTIC is the ULTIMATE form of 
>           MIND-CONTROL. 

I suppose if memory serves me, they were telling me the same thing
only nothing sunk into the old cranium at the time. None of what I was
taught could I relate to being a kid who just wants to be a kid
and have fun.

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>                And I was sent to these MIND-CONTROL sessions by people 
>           (my parents) on whom I was COMPLETELY DEPENDENT for ALL of my 
>           living needs--food, clothing, shelter, EVERYTHING. 

Me too, I guess their intentions were good 'cause that's what
their parents did for them.

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>                The MIND-CONTROL tactics described above are really NO 
>           less extreme than those allegedly used by the "Moonies", and 
>           the result is THE SAME. 

At least they didn't deprive me of sleep during my training, nor
cut me off from my family and friends, nor deprive me of food. In
general, it's not the same thing. To me it was no different than
public school in my eyes.

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>                Fortunately, UN-like most people, I was able to DE-
>           PROGRAM myself.  The trigger came in mid-1968 when I read the 

Me too. when I was old enough to say no to Luther, I quit going
to church:-)

>           book "Edgar Cayce--The Sleeping Prophet" and came to the 
>           chapter about REINCARNATION.  Since then, I have been 
>           learning the TRUTH about many important things--religious, 
>           political, historical, economic, even "scientific", in spite 
>           of a continuous barrage of BRAINWASHING official-LIES and 
>           HALF-TRUTHS from the government, CONTROLLED news media, and 
>           "education" systems. 

Well, many of us believe the government consists of all of these
and more. The media has a definite bias in what they want to
report, and the education system, that's in disarray.
But you had to turn to Edgar to find that out?
My mother was a big fan of Edgar Cayce, after all, he was a very
religious and unassuming man who loved helping people and he developed
this great gift of diagnosing and describing cures for illness where
the medical establishment could not.
I read some of his books(this after I had been born-again and baptised
in the Holy Spirit as described in several sections in Acts). Reading
him was exciting until...oh, oh, he began speaking of Another Jesus
and a different Gospel(there's that red flag again). I could ignore
that and continue to enjoy him as a true man of the living God who
was given a great gift, but that other Jesus and different Gospel
kept nagging at me that something was not right. Edgar had the warm
fuzzies that this is truely from God, well, how could he say otherwise?
After all, he was helping people and he was religious. Despite those
things I could reason on, I came to the conclusion that he never knew
the person Jesus despite his being religious, and must have been led
astray, because the person Jesus is much more than a fuzzy warm religious
feeling, even the devil can mimick that. I could babble on and on.
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>                The reason there seems to be little interest so far in 
>           Eckankar, Sant Mat, etc., is because most people have been so 
>           thoroughly BRAINWASHED by orthodox teachings. 

Well, follow these others and be brainwashed again, only this time
it is voluntary:-) Teachings can brainwash, yes. The Spirit of
the Lord will wash your brain, cleanse your soul, and set you upright
on your feet through every storm and wind of doctrine!

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>                UN-altered REPRODUCTION and DISSEMINATION of these 
>           IMPORTANT ideas is ENCOURAGED. 
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Yes, you are encouraged to be brainwashed by Edgarites this time,
do spread this around:-)