HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bgm@cray.com (Bert Moshier)
Subject: Re: News from L.A. OS/2 Celebration and COMDEX announcement
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 7 Apr 92 22:18:49 CDT

In article <1992Apr7.225834.5596@cheshire.oxy.edu> rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David R. Giller) writes:
>I just got back from the OS/2 rollout at the Westin Bonaventure in downtown
>L.A.
>
>Surprises:
>
>Windows 3.1 compatibility is done!!  I didn't catch whether the CSDs were
>done, or iff all currently-printing copies of OS/2 will have the Windows
>3.1 version of WinOS2, but Reiswig demonstrated running multimedia apps
>under a 3.1 version of WinOS2.

Actuall what we saw was the current 24 hour old driver.  Lee specifically
said (I was at COMDEX) that the GA codes does not contain this support.
It will, though, be coming out (say in the next couple of months - CSD).

>...were reduced to oohs and aahs by the end of Reiswig's demo.  One cringed
>at the requirement of 15-32Mb, but soon forgot about it when he saw everything
>it did.

Well, Stacker for OS/2 2.0 is coming.  Stac Electronic announced it at COMDEX.

BTW, Gary Clow (President Stac Electronic) said Stac will be using the existing
IBM beta test (EEP, etc) group to test this code!  ??Another feature on the
CSD??  He did not say how soon the beta test would start but it sounded like
May/June/July.

Bert Moshier
From: chris@atl.scscom.com (Chris Boaro)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Some notes about the Windoze release..
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:57:39 GMT
Organization: SCS/Compute, Inc.

This is from the official MicroSloth press release on Windoze 3.1:

[blah blah...]

	To help customers, Microsoft has trained thousands of 
resellers on Windows 3.1 and has in place more than 500 product 
support personnel.   The company will train more than 90,000 end 
users during April -- and more than 125,000 by the end of June.
[...]

	"Windows 3.1 was designed to make PCs easier for 
everyone to use," said Bill Gates, Microsoft chairman and CEO.  
"Windows 3.1 provides the power and stability of an advanced 
operating system, while its user interface and new features greatly 
simplify the use of a PC and help make people more productive.  
[...]

[blah blah...]

Hmm.. since when does it require training to get people up to speed on
something that is simpler then what they were using? Things that make
you go "Hmm".

Chris
From: gt0040a@prism.gatech.EDU (Thomas Michael Sorensen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: IBM OS/2 v.2.0 demo in Atlanta
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:35:35 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <rhoward.702947638@matd> rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard) writes:

>gt8080a@prism.gatech.EDU (Henry 'Hank' Harlan Roark III) writes:

>>I just got back from a demo of OS/2 v.2.0 given at the IBM Tower in Atlanta.
>>Just a few tidbits I thought you'd like to know.

>You know, after I got back from the Atlanta demo/hands-on session
>I was really disappointed. :-(  I have heard about all these rollouts
>in NY, LA, etc. and how they were glitzy, professional, and all
>that you would imagine from a big company like IBM.  What did we get
>in Atlanta?

A lot, you just missed it (sorry). The first OS/2-PS/2 road show was here,
a week ago today. They had the FTN broadcast on the 7th also, which was
quite impressive. The OS/2 users group will be showing off GA next Wednesday.
Just like in NY, LA, etc. its a matter of knowing where to be and at what
time.
         Tom Sorensen
-- 
Tom Sorensen              gt0040a@prism.gatech.edu
Georgia Tech 
And no, I don't like this .signature.
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Monday, 13 Apr 1992 18:56:31 WUT
From: FLATSCHER Rony <RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 swapfile

To change the partition for the swapfile:

     change the SWAPFILE-statement in CONFIG.SYS to the new drive and
     subdirectory, reboot --- done.

---rony
P.S.: Remove the standard SWAPFILE.DAT after reboot from its original
partition.
P.P.S.: You can define the drive while installing, if you choose the
menu on top of the install-screen (one can oversee that easily). Just
read the manuals which accompany 32bit OS/2.
From: ian@vnet.ibm.com (Ian Stirling)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 09:36:56 BST
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 2.0 Post-Install Readme
Reply-To: ian@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM UK Laboratories Ltd, Hursley, England
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: Usenet 3.0

I have the post-install OS/2 2.0 ReadMe file available.  It is quite
large so I will not post it directly to the newsgroup.  Also I do not
have FTP access to any non-IBM sites.

So, if anyone would like a copy, please send me a note.

Cheers,
Ian Stirling                      Internet: ian@vnet.ibm.com
CICS/ESA Systems Facilities         Bitnet: ian at vnet
IBM UK Labs Ltd, Hursley, England IBMIPnet: ian@stirling.hursley.ibm.com

Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
From: ashwath@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ashwath Ram)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: SVGA drivers for OS/2 2.0 compatibility.
Date: 7 Apr 92 01:27:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: gn.1992Apr7.012704.18089
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


I have a Gateway 2000 machine and a SVGA color monitor with
1 Mb. Gateway supplied the drivers to run under Win 3.0 will
these same drivers run under OS/2 or has IBM provided 
drivers with OS/2. Ithink it is a Tseng chip set.


Thanks in advance
Ashwath Ram
.
From: UCSBILLB@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu (William H Baumer)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Advertising OS/2 v.2.0
Date: 11 Apr 92 20:33:53 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo

For those uncertain about IBM's commitment to advertising OS/2 v.2.0:
check the two-page center spread in Section A, Thursday, 9 April 1992,
The Wall Street Journal.


William H. Baumer, University at Buffalo
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan)
Subject: OS/2 ad seen!
Originator: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 03:08:44 GMT


For those of you in the San Francisco Bay Area, I've just spotted what
must be one of the first "official" ads for OS/2 2.0.  It's on page
14 of the free tabloid Bay Area Computer Currents.  It is a joint
800-SOFTWARE/IBM ad.  It's a typically understated IBM ad; the photo
is just the OS/2 box (no screen shots).  Looks like IBM's slogan
will be "OS/2. Breaking through."  Cute.

--Tony Quan
quan@cs.stanford.edu


Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: duffy@theory.chem.ubc.ca (Pat Duffy)
Subject: EmTeX and 6.304E
Summary: dvi2pm doesn't work : -(
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 06:49:16 GMT

Hi All!

Well, I downloaded all the EmTeX stuff from Hobbes.nmsu.edu and unzooed all
three kazillion megs of it onto my hard drive.  It works fine except:

1) using 'v' to try and view my .dvi files stops and the program complains
   about not being able to open the file 'dviscr.err'.  (v is the .cmd file that
   runs the viewer, I think).

2) dvi2pm generates an illegal instruction trap and the program summarily
   stops.

Any ideas?  I haven't printed out the documentation yet because I'm nowhere 
near a printer right now.  LaTeX isn't much use without a printer _or_ a
previewer...

P.S.  Please E-Mail responses to duffy@unixg.ubc.ca, as theory.chem.ubc.ca is
      having V4 of the SGI operating system installed on it tomorrow morning
      and afternoon and so will likely not get my  mail to me.

Thanks in advance!
-- 
Patrick Duffy, E-Mail:  duffy@theory.chem.ubc.ca
 
"I wouldn't believe in anything if it weren't for my lucky astrology mood
watch."  - Steve Martin
From: jarman@ee.ualberta.ca (Andrew Jarman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS2 My experience/minor problems
Date: 11 Apr 92 06:37:09 GMT
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada

swartzjh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Jeff H. Swartz) writes:


>Well I was one of the lucky ones at the COMDEX show to win a free copy of  
>OS2 2.0 and I installed last night.  The installation was relatively easy,  
>but I think IBM should have posted more information on the screen about  
>what was going on (SMALL DETAIL).  I got it up and running but I have one  
>problem.  My printer will not work.  It initializes itself when I turn the  
>computer on, but when I try to print from OS2 it says YOUR PRINTER IS NOT  
>ON, or another error.  I have booted on a DOS disk and the printer works  
>fine.  The printer is set up on LPT1. 

>	System Configuration
>		483 -33 8 megs of ram
>		130 meg IDE hardrive
>		Soundblaster Card
>		SVGA Monitor	
When I installed 1.3 (eagerly awaiting 2.0), I had a similar problem with 
my printer.  I think what you must do is check to see if the printer port
is generating interupts.  Multi-tasking environments all use interupt 
driven I/O routines (polling is passe), and thus, your parallel card MUST
generate interupts. DOS doesn't use interupts (usually), although I'm
not sure about the 'print' utility.  Anyway, enable interupts.

-- 
/***************************************************************************\
|  Andrew Jarman                 |   Computer Engineering                   |
|  jarman@bode.ee.ualberta.ca    |   University of Alberta, Canada          |
\***************************************************************************/
From: keating@casemo.UUCP (John Keating )
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 Ad + 800 order number for Canada
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:59:12 GMT
Organization: Dowty Communications, Inc.

In a previous article, jokim@jarthur.claremont.edu (John H. Kim) mentions
part of an IBM OS/2 ad:

> - OS/2 2.0 upgrade: $49 from Windows, $99 from any DOS.
                                                 ^^^ ^^^
                                                 !!! !!!

Hmmm...  Does this mean that I can upgrade from my old TR-DOS?  :^)

John Keating, III
-- 
    John Wllm Keating, III      |KEATING, MEIGHAN, POPE, HOBBS, OGLE,
  Dowty Communications, Inc.    |KEARNEY, WINNER/WINTER, CROWE, MICHAEL,
mimsy.cs.umd.edu!casemo!keating |CECELIA, ZACHARIAH, TRIMBLE, etc...  (All MD)
   73737.733@compuserve.com     |Opinions expressed above are mine, not DCI's.
From: easyrob@cs.utexas.edu (Robert Depew Reynolds)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: IBM OS2TAPE software
Date: 10 Apr 1992 15:46:31 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: coltexo.cs.utexas.edu

Sounds like Irwin AccuTrac Standard (250PC) is the way to go for OS/2!

Now I hope IBM makes PMTAPE available to the general public so that I won't
have to spend the $90 for the EZTape/PM upgrade.

I believe one or the other of the programs is needed to correctly back-up
the EA's for FAT partitions.  Is This TRUE??

thanx
Robert D. Reynolds
easyrob@cs.utexas.edu
From: gt0040a@prism.gatech.EDU (Thomas Michael Sorensen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Norton desktop on OS/2-WIN shell?
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:36:42 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <1992Apr7.023204.6625@midway.uchicago.edu> sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>not operate (OS/2 2.0 provides undelete itself), but otherwise it

Really? Where? I haven't seen undelete on 6.304.
          Tom Sorensen

-- 
Tom Sorensen              gt0040a@prism.gatech.edu
Georgia Tech 
And no, I don't like this .signature.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: badboy@netcom.com (Jay Keller)
Subject: Re: Egghead
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 06:17:53 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Apr7.054015.9055@muddcs.claremont.edu> 
ddulay@jarthur.claremont.edu (Dan Dulay) writes:

>	I visited the local Egghead store last Saturday and was told there
>that very few Egghead retail outlets are planning to carry OS/2 2.0.  This
>store is one which is not going to be carrying it, but, the salesman told 
>me, the Egghead wherehouse would be carrying OS/2 and I should call them 
>@ 1-800-egghead.  @ this phone # the operator told me that Egghead didn't
>know pricing, its upgrade policy, or when it would recieve its first
>shipment of OS/2.  I've given up w/ the retail channel, but unless IBM
>does something to support the retail channel it will lose a lot of sales.
>I think that IBM shouldn't have bothered w/ GA on 3/31 since it's almost
>impossible to get the product until the end of this month.  Does anyone 
>agree w/ me on this?

Not at all.  IBM had to specify some date, and they set 3/31 for the start
of availability.  Some IBM customers received OS/2 2.0 on 3/31.  They were
then prepared to start filling orders, with gradually increasing capacity.  The
pressure was on high for IBM so they had to use every hour to make the product
as good as possible. 

Also it's not IBM's fault that Egghead is clueless.  

At least the product is worth the wait.

Regards,

Jay Keller
Santa Clara, California, USA

badboy@netcom.com
From: ed@balrog.aecom.yu.edu (Ed Geraghty)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 TCP/IP v1.2 who do I call to get it?
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:52:05 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Albert Einstein College of Medicine -- Dynamic Brain Imaging Lab

Greetings,

    I am trying to by TCP/IP v1.2 for OS/2 and I don't know who to contact
in IBM to purchase it. Does anybody have a little list of usefull numbers
for interacting with IBM. Any help is greatly appreciated.
 
                                        Ed G.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cdfannin@engws9.ic.sunysb.edu (Chris D Fanning)
Subject: Re: ga's applets
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 02:33:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.120506.9852@actrix.gen.nz> conrad@actrix.gen.nz (Conrad Bullock) writes:
>Yes, in 16 colours, Windows solitaire has nicer card bitmaps than OS/2's
>Klondike, but the other day I installed Trident's 256-colour drivers,
>and I must say that I got quite a surprise when I ran Klondike. The 
>picture cards look absolutely beautiful in 256 colours....

I thought I was going nuts when I was comparing them myself... Everyone was
telling me that Klondike's cards looked horrid...  I couldn't believe it!
The Win3.1 cards looked OK to me but the Klondike card looked GREAT.  I'm
using an 8514/a and never had the pleasure of looking at them in 16 color
mode... so I guess that's why I never knew what everyone was talking about.

Klondike looks great in 256 colors...  Just hope other video board makers
get their drivers out there so everyone can see this for themselves!

Chris
From: scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2 version DR DOS
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:59:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims01.6APR199216591638
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr6.091007.14873@news.Hawaii.Edu>, 
tholen@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Dave Tholen) writes...
>Most of the discussion in this newsgroup has been about how OS/2 will fare
>compared to Windows.  Having just received a brochure in the mail pushing
>DR DOS version 6.0, I can't help but wonder whether OS/2 will kill off DR DOS.
> 
>Interesting:  the brochure was sent by an American firm to a United States
>address advertising an American firm's product, but the picture of the DR DOS
>box showed labeling in German!

While I am probably wrong, I am still hanging on to my personal theory that 
the "long term" direction of things is for 4 distinct operating systems to 
emerge (make that standalone operating systems) for the PC world:

1.	UNIX
2.	OS/2
3.	A "Windows" based complete operating system from Microsoft (not NT-	
	see below)
4.	DR-DOS

(5 if Quarterdeck's pet project ever materializes)

I see Microsoft transitioning away from DOS (which they're about 50% 
complete in doing) and eventually abandoning DOS for the next generation 
Windows system, which NT may prove to be a prototype for.  If there are any 
remaining DOS users at that point in time, DR-DOS will pick them up.

While I do not think that OS/2 will "kill off" DR-DOS, I do think that the 
average DR-DOS user is more apt to go to OS/2 than the average MS-DOS user, 
primarily due to a higher level of technical competence of the DR-DOS user 
(DR DOS users generally demand more from their systems, including OS, than 
MS DOS users)

Just an opinion.

JD
From: juan@noyles.pha.pa.us (Juan J. E. T. Noyles)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2 2.0 Advertising
Date: 9 Apr 92 12:51:42 GMT
Organization: Noyles Computer Works


In article <1JXXiB5w164w@underg.UUCP> max@underg.UUCP writes:

>> Listen, the guys at Boca have worked hard in programming the next generation
>> operating system and they don't deserve to be insulted by the lack of vision
>> of the "marketing" executives of IBM.  The new IBM apparently has started fro>> the bottom-up, and the guys that are still on top have no brains. I respect
>
>I totally disagree. IBM is already swamped with orders. The lady was very 
>nice to me when I called, but said it would be 4 weeks before I would get me 
>copy. The problem now is not advertising, its distribution. 

Seems to me like OS/2 doesn't have an advertising problem.  Sounds like word of
mouth has worked wonders for the big blue builders!

---
Racists think the world is flat.  [Ralph Alves, 1992]	Juan@Noyles.pha.pa.us
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: rafetmad@cheshire.oxy.edu (David R. Giller)
Subject: Re: os2 and dos both single tasking?
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 00:40:53 GMT

I don't fully understand this post, because the question you ask assumes some
facts that just aren't true.

In article <em15iB1w164w@student.business.uwo.ca> mark@student.business.uwo.ca (Mark Bramwell, Computer Staff) writes:
>I have been a beta tester for os/2 v2.  I have also been an user of
>windows 3.0 / 3.1.
>
>I ask both IBM and the net 'why do you think "os/2" is multi-tasking?'
>
>The best way to describe the question is this;  lets compare dos and
>os/2.
>
>With dos, I boot up a single tasking text-mode environment.

Yes.

>With os/2, I boot up a single tasking text-mode environment.

No, OS/2 really is a multitasking environment.  In addition, it is a graphical
environment, and you can't (easily) disable the GUI.  If you tested OS/2,
I'd think you'd know this.

>With dos, I can optionally run windows (a graphically front end that 
>gives multi-tasking features)
>
>With os/2, I can optionally run PM (a graphical front end that gives 
>multi-tasking features)

Generally speaking, PM (WPS now) is not optional.

>With unix, I can  'ps' to see processes, even in single-user mode.  It 
>has swapper/scheduler processes.  Can I see this in os/2 if PM is not 
>running?

You really need to use PM.  And, whether PM is running or not, you can
indeed run PSTAT, and get a list of running proccesses.  I think one of
these is the kernel process, and another is the swapper, just like UNIX.

>What is the difference between the two?  Saying 32bit means nothing 
>because I have seen unix on 8bit CPUs.

DOS is a real-mode single-tasking OS, and OS/2 is a protected-mode
multitasking environment.  UNIX on 8-bit CPUs is not the same thing.

>I would like put forth the comment that dos/windows is the same as 
>os/2&pm.

Then you will be wrong.  They do many of the same things, and fall into the
same functional category (OS with GUI) but they are fundamentally different
(even ask a MS employee).

>If os/2 is truly multi-tasking, why can't I start two text mode apps and 
>hot key between them?

You can.  Are you sure you were running OS/2?  I am running NCSA telnet right
now.  If I want, I can hot-key back and use some other program.

-Dave
-- 
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Occidental College    | bulb?  A: Three.  One to replace the bulb, and two to
1600 Campus Road      | fend off all the Californians trying to share the
Los Angeles, CA 90041 | experience. ---------------------------rafetmad@oxy.edu
From: oshins@wolf.cs.washington.edu (Jake Oshins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: RPC or TCP/IP on OS/2
Date: 15 Apr 92 04:15:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: /homes/iws/oshins/.organization

In article <1992Apr15.003935.8775@math.ucla.edu> edward@luna.math.ucla.edu (Edward Dergharapetian) writes:

   Hi folks--
   Does anyone have any knowledge of RPC (Remote Procedure Call) or any TCP/IP
   (specifically socket) libraries available for use with Microsoft C 6.0 on
   OS/2 1.3?

   edward.


On April 1, Microsoft announced/released their TCP utilities disk.  It
should have all of these things.  I still haven't received the copy I
ordered, or I would tell you more.

- Jake Oshins
From: etl0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ERIC TODD LANDRIEU)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Geoworks in OS/2
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:17:02 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>>Can OS2 run on a Commodore 64?
>NO!
>but NT can
>that is why switching to os/2 is a silly idea
>when windows will be doing what os/2 does now in just two or three years
I am assuming this is pure sarcasm.  It definitely was funny.
A C-64 with the hardware requirements for NT... That'd be the day.
                                    Eric Landrieu

                                    
-- 

               ===============================================
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               ===============================================
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From: tennis@cs.mcgill.ca (Pascal Proulx)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Anyone from IBM Canada reads this newsgroup ?
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:32:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Originator: tennis@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca

The title almost says it all. If the answer is yes, PLEASE write to this
newsgroup to give the information you have on how IBM Canada has planned
to release OS2 2.O in Canada :

this information would apply to:

   - date of release
   - upgrading policy (prices of upgrades)
   - prices for the EE version
   - BBS number in Canada
   - toll-free number for information in Canada, etc...
   - where to get OS2 2.O ?

THANKS A LOT !
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