From: muehlhau@en.ecn.purdue.edu (John Muehlhausen)
Subject: "LOVE" vs. "HATE"
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 92 09:05:24 GMT

As you read the "love" and "hate" lists, mark down the ones that
bother you - that seem inconsistent with God.

Look up these verses and get the full context. 

If God hates something or someone that bothers you, search the Bible
to find out why.  Was the occurence under the old covenant or the
new?  Was God patient before revealing His wrath?  How does this
verse, with context, affect your view of God and how you expect Him
to deal with you personally?  If you had to guess whether God would
love or hate the object of His hatred, given the background of all
the other verses, what would you guess?  Is it the same as what the
Bible says?  Why or why not?(1) Does God have the right, as Creator, to
hate something He has made?(2) Do you, as something he created, have
the right to hate yourself if He says He loves you, or to hate
another He says He loves?  Do you have the right to love something
which He hates?  Does it matter what He hates if He loves you?  Does
the New Testament say you are loved?(3) Who is better equipped to do
the hating justice requires, you or God?(4)

(1)
Jer 9:23   This is what the LORD says: "Let not the wise man boast of
 his wisdom or the strong man boast of his strength or the rich man 
 boast of his riches,
Jer 9:24   but let him who boasts boast about this: that he 
 understands and knows me, that I am the LORD, who exercises kindness,
 justice and righteousness on earth, for in these I delight," declares
 the LORD.

(2)
Romans 9:11 Yet, before the twins were born or had done anything good 
 or bad--in order that God's purpose in election might stand: 
9:12    not by works but by him who calls--she was told, "The 
 older will serve the younger." 
9:13    Just as it is written: "Jacob I loved, but Esau I hated." 
9:14    What then shall we say? Is God unjust? Not at all! 
9:15    For he says to Moses, "I will have mercy on whom I have 
 mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I have compassion." 
9:16    It does not, therefore, depend on man's desire or effort, 
 but on God's mercy. 
9:17    For the Scripture says to Pharaoh: "I raised you up for 
 this very purpose, that I might display my power in you and that my 
 name might be proclaimed in all the earth." 
9:18    Therefore God has mercy on whom he wants to have mercy, 
 and he hardens whom he wants to harden. 
9:19    One of you will say to me: "Then why does God still blame 
 us? For who resists his will?" 
9:20    But who are you, O man, to talk back to God? "Shall what 
 is formed say to him who formed it, 'Why did you make me like this?'" 
9:21    Does not the potter have the right to make out of the same 
 lump of clay some pottery for noble purposes and some for common use? 
9:22    What if God, choosing to show his wrath and make his power 
 known, bore with great patience the objects of his wrath--prepared for 
 destruction? 
9:23    What if he did this to make the riches of his glory known 
 to the objects of his mercy, whom he prepared in advance for glory-- 
9:24    even us, whom he also called, not only from the Jews but 
 also from the Gentiles? 
9:25    As he says in Hosea: "I will call them 'my people' who are 
 not my people; and I will call her 'my loved one' who is not my loved 
 one," 
9:26    and, "It will happen that in the very place where it was 
 said to them, 'You are not my people,' they will be called 'sons of 
 the living God.'" 
9:27    Isaiah cries out concerning Israel: "Though the number of 
 the Israelites be like the sand by the sea, only the remnant will be 
 saved. 
9:28    For the Lord will carry out his sentence on earth with 
 speed and finality." 
9:29    It is just as Isaiah said previously: "Unless the Lord 
 Almighty had left us descendants, we would have become like Sodom, 
 we would have been like Gomorrah." 
9:30    What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not 
 pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by
 faith; 
9:31    but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not 
 attained it. 
9:32    Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it 
 were by works. They stumbled over the "stumbling stone." 
9:33    As it is written: "See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes 
 men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who 
 trusts in him will never be put to shame." 
10:1    Brothers, my heart's desire and prayer to God for the 
 Israelites is that they may be saved. 
10:2    For I can testify about them that they are zealous for 
 God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 
10:3    Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from 
 God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God's 
 righteousness. 
10:4    Christ is the end of the law so that there may be 
 righteousness for everyone who believes. 
10:5    Moses describes in this way the righteousness that is by 
 the law: "The man who does these things will live by them." 
10:6    But the righteousness that is by faith says: "Do not say 
 in your heart, 'Who will ascend into heaven?' " (that is, to bring 
 Christ down) 
10:7    "or 'Who will descend into the deep?' " (that is, to bring 
 Christ up from the dead). 
10:8    But what does it say? "The word is near you; it is in your 
 mouth and in your heart," that is, the word of faith we are 
 proclaiming: 
10:9    That if you confess with your mouth, "Jesus is Lord," and 
 believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be 
 saved. 
10:10    For it is with your heart that you believe and are 
 justified, and it is with your mouth that you confess and are saved. 
10:11    As the Scripture says, "Anyone who trusts in him will 
 never be put to shame." 
10:12    For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile--the 
 same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 
10:13    for, "Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be 
 saved." 
10:14    How, then, can they call on the one they have not 
 believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have 
 not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 
10:15    And how can they preach unless they are sent? As it is 
 written, "How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!" 
10:16    But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For 
 Isaiah says, "Lord, who has believed our message?" 
10:17    Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and 
 the message is heard through the word of Christ. 
10:18    But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did: "Their 
 voice has gone out into all the earth, their words to the ends of 
 the world." 
10:19    Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses 
 says, "I will make you envious by those who are not a nation; I 
 will make you angry by a nation that has no understanding." 
10:20    And Isaiah boldly says, "I was found by those who did not 
 seek me; I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me." 
10:21    But concerning Israel he says, "All day long I have held 
 out my hands to a disobedient and obstinate people." 
11:1    I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am 
 an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of 
 Benjamin. 
11:2    God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don't you 
 know what the Scripture says in the passage about Elijah--how he 
 appealed to God against Israel: 
11:3    "Lord, they have killed your prophets and torn down your 
 altars; I am the only one left, and they are trying to kill me" ? 
11:4    And what was God's answer to him? "I have reserved for 
 myself seven thousand who have not bowed the knee to Baal." 
11:5    So too, at the present time there is a remnant chosen by 
 grace. 
11:6    And if by grace, then it is no longer by works; if it 
 were, grace would no longer be grace. 
11:7    What then? What Israel sought so earnestly it did not 
 obtain, but the elect did. The others were hardened, 
11:8    as it is written: "God gave them a spirit of stupor, eyes 
 so that they could not see and ears so that they could not hear, 
 to this very day." 
11:9    And David says: "May their table become a snare and a 
 trap, a stumbling block and a retribution for them. 
11:10    May their eyes be darkened so they cannot see, and their 
 backs be bent forever." 
11:11    Again I ask: Did they stumble so as to fall beyond 
 recovery? Not at all! Rather, because of their transgression, 
 salvation has come to the Gentiles to make Israel envious. 
11:12    But if their transgression means riches for the world, 
 and their loss means riches for the Gentiles, how much greater 
 riches will their fullness bring! 
11:13    I am talking to you Gentiles. Inasmuch as I am the 
 apostle to the Gentiles, I make much of my ministry 
11:14    in the hope that I may somehow arouse my own people to 
 envy and save some of them. 
11:15    For if their rejection is the reconciliation of the 
 world, what will their acceptance be but life from the dead? 
11:16    If the part of the dough offered as firstfruits is holy, 
 then the whole batch is holy; if the root is holy, so are the branches. 
11:17    If some of the branches have been broken off, and you, 
 though a wild olive shoot, have been grafted in among the others 
 and now share in the nourishing sap from the olive root, 
11:18    do not boast over those branches. If you do, consider 
 this: You do not support the root, but the root supports you. 
11:19    You will say then, "Branches were broken off so that I 
 could be grafted in." 
11:20    Granted. But they were broken off because of unbelief, 
 and you stand by faith. Do not be arrogant, but be afraid. 
11:21    For if God did not spare the natural branches, he will 
 not spare you either. 
11:22    Consider therefore the kindness and sternness of God: 
 sternness to those who fell, but kindness to you, provided that 
 you continue in his kindness. Otherwise, you also will be cut off. 
11:23    And if they do not persist in unbelief, they will be 
 grafted in, for God is able to graft them in again. 
11:24    After all, if you were cut out of an olive tree that is 
 wild by nature, and contrary to nature were grafted into a 
 cultivated olive tree, how much more readily will these, the 
 natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree! 
11:25    I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, 
 brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced 
 a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in. 
11:26    And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The 
 deliverer will come from Zion; he will turn godlessness away from Jacob. 
11:27    And this is my covenant with them when I take away their 
 sins." 
11:28    As far as the gospel is concerned, they are enemies on 
 your account; but as far as election is concerned, they are loved 
 on account of the patriarchs, 
11:29    for God's gifts and his call are irrevocable. 
11:30    Just as you who were at one time disobedient to God have 
 now received mercy as a result of their disobedience, 
11:31    so they too have now become disobedient in order that 
 they too may now receive mercy as a result of God's mercy to you. 
11:32    For God has bound all men over to disobedience so that he 
 may have mercy on them all. 
11:33    Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge 
 of God! How unsearchable his judgments, and his paths beyond tracing 
 out! 
11:34    "Who has known the mind of the Lord? Or who has been his 
 counselor?" 
11:35    "Who has ever given to God, that God should repay him?" 
11:36    For from him and through him and to him are all things. 
 To him be the glory forever! Amen. 

(3)
Mat 22:37   Jesus replied: "'Love the Lord your God with all your
 heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.'
Mat 22:38   This is the first and greatest commandment.

Rom 5:5   And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured
 out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.
Rom 5:6   You see, at just the right time, when we were still
 powerless, Christ died for the ungodly.
Rom 5:7   Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man,
 though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die.
Rom 5:8   But God demonstrates his own love for us in
 this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.
Rom 5:9   Since we have now been justified by his
 blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him!
Rom 5:10   For if, when we were God's enemies, we
 were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more,
 having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!
Rom 5:11   Not only is this so, but we also
 rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now
 received reconciliation.

[If you love God and accept what He has done through Jesus Christ, 
 you are _assured_ of salvation and His love for you!]

(4)
Rom 12:19   Do not take revenge, my friends, but leave room for God's
 wrath, for it is written: "It is mine to avenge; I will repay,"
 says the Lord.
Rom 12:20   On the contrary: "If your enemy is hungry, feed him;
 if he is thirsty, give him something to drink. In doing this, you will
 heap burning coals on his head."


John M.

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