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From: cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: coke..
Date: 21 Nov 1992 16:36:00 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio) says:

>
>>cd741@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Paul Andarti) writes:
>
>>>No...I'll try to make this easier...  How much coke per day
>>>would someone have to use to make their nose collapse/disolve?
>>>A half ounce?  At a cost of *at least* $3500 a week?
>
>No I'd guess an eightball a day would do it.  Maybe up to $500+
>a week depending on where and who.   

And *what*.

>
>A gram a day might even do it if maintained long enough.
>
>Who knows?

No one becuase this whole discussion is just more
WoD propaganda.
>

-- 
"We're desperate, Get used to it,
  It's kiss or kill" - X
From: jbaez@riesz.mit.edu (John C. Baez)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: two mj questions
Date: 22 Nov 92 01:03:55 GMT
Organization: MIT Department of Mathematics, Cambridge, MA

In article <1992Nov20.060410.10020@lunatix.uucp> chelf@lunatix.uucp (Chad Helfenberger) writes:

>Anyway.. After about five minutes, I was feeling *very* good;
>about how high I as have ever gotten from good skunk.  However,
>after I recovered from my fit of coughing, I became more and more
>high.  I started to think that it had been laced with PCP or
>something, because I was getting extreme hallucinagenic effects
>(both audible and visual).  I heard people talking to me, who
>were obviously not there.  I thought I saw the *wind* move
>outside.  I was extremely stoned, needless to say.  During the
>buzz (which lasted about 8 hours), I felt as if my entire body
>were vibrating intensely from some unknown force.  Time literally
>stopped (to me, anyway).  I could barely move, and I was afraid.
>I truly felt as if I were going to die at one point, because I
>felt so incredibly nauseus (sp).  [Nauseous]

Nice story!  From what I know, this sort of thing can happen just from
marijuana -- except that the 8-hour duration seems awfully long.
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From: chelf@lunatix.uucp (Chad Helfenberger)
Subject: Re: two mj questions
Organization: Lexington Public Access Unix. -KY- (606) 253-1481 
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 06:04:10 GMT


I feel I need to relate a very similar experience.  Me and a good
friend were desperate for a high (extreme pothead) about two
years ago.  We bought a single joint from a FOAF.  I felt as
though we had been ripped off at the time, because it was a
*very* small joint.  Anyway, we left.  Arriving back at my
friend's apartment, we smoked the joint.  After my first hit off
of it, I began coughing hysterically.  My friend continued
smoking it until I could take another toke.  After the second
hit, I decided I had had enough, because I just couldn't handle
how harsh it was, plus the amount of smoke rolling out of this
small joint.

Anyway.. After about five minutes, I was feeling *very* good;
about how high I as have ever gotten from good skunk.  However,
after I recovered from my fit of coughing, I became more and more
high.  I started to think that it had been laced with PCP or
something, because I was getting extreme hallucinagenic effects
(both audible and visual).  I heard people talking to me, who
were obviously not there.  I thought I saw the *wind* move
outside.  I was extremely stoned, needless to say.  During the
buzz (which lasted about 8 hours), I felt as if my entire body
were vibrating intensely from some unknown force.  Time literally
stopped (to me, anyway).  I could barely move, and I was afraid.
I truly felt as if I were going to die at one point, because I
felt so incredibly nauseus (sp).  The only thing which was
unpleasant during the whole buzz was the nausea I experienced.
The rest of it was very, very strange, but was fun, and I had
a great time, overall.  It was *much* more hallucinagenic than
LSD, and it was the most intense buzz I've ever personally
experienced.  Can anyone shed some light on perhaps why this
happened?  My friend said he didn't get nearly as high as I did,
but he did experience some audible hallucinations.  Looking back,
I think the intense vibrations I felt were really my heartbeat.
I'm not sure though; this was a couple of years ago, and that
night is rather fuzzy.  Thanks for any objective
thoughts/comments in advance.  Bye


-- 
Chad Helfenberger

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From: pfcouvar@unix.amherst.edu (Peter F. Couvares)
Subject: Re: RFD?:  alt.drugs.lsd
Organization: Amherst College
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:44:30 GMT

	There is no need for a separate alt.drugs.lsd group. At times
acid is a popular topic, at times X, at times weed. None of them have
a consistently high enough volume to warrant an entire new newsgroup.
It would be a bad idea. :)

-Peter

pfcouvar@unix.amherst.edu (Peter Couvares)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: jcherney@envy.reed.edu (Joel Alexander Cherney)
Subject: Re: two mj questions
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 00:56:47 GMT
Reply-To: jcherney@reed.edu

> Until a couple days ago, when I finished off the bud with my boyfriend.
> He hadn't smoked in a number of years, but we figured that there 
> simply wasn't enough of the bud left to go overboard.
> 
> We each had about four hits a piece -- and small hits, not massive
> brain-clogging breathing smoke for three days afterwards hits.
> 
> In about twenty minutes I found myself completely and utterly unable
> to move.  Apathy is one thing with pot, but this was almost like
> *physical* paralyzation.  Shortly after that the hallucinations started --
> the crutains across the room were moving, and so was the carpet.  I
> have never had hallucinations on pot.  The spins set in soon afterward,
> which were ok to deal with as long as I didn't close my eyes.  Also,
> time started to slow down and do strange things, almost exactly the
> way it does when I'm on nitrous.  I had never noticed any time distortions
> of this sort while stoned (except that its a great way to waste it :)
> 
> It was about that time (maybe half an hour after the last hit) that my
> boyfriend announced that he wasn't feeling well and when I questioned
> him more and more he got more and more panicked.  He's no stranger to
> pot -- when he was in school (Humboldt State, no less) he was a severe
> pothead.  He claimed afterwards that he was almost certain that he was
> going to die, and had to keep repeating to himself that no one ever
> died from pot.  I tried to reassure him, but his freaking out was
> making me freak out.  He finally just slid off the couch onto the
> floor and lay with his head down.  I coulndt get him to move anywhere,
> and finally I just gave up since it was so hard to get *me* to move
> anywhere.
> 
> It was another half an hour before either of us could move.  We went
> directly to bed, and both of us had nasty nightmares all night. 
> We compared notes in the morning, and he had much the same symptoms
> that I had -- paralysis, visual and audio halluncintations, time
> distortion...

This sounds familiar... My friend and I did about five hits apiece.  Every sound *echoed*,  
the walls were moving and I simply *couldn't* make my eyes hold still long enough to read.
My friend twitched, and I bad-tripped (on pot!).  I thought that I had drank water with  
nicotine in it; I felt a burning sensation travel around the veins in my body, and I thought,  
"the nicotine is going to get to my heart, I'll have heart palpitations and DIE!"  After that  
night, we only did two to three hits apiece when we smoked out of that sack, and it was fine.
From: caedmon@cats.ucsc.edu (Axeman)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Tripping Idea
Date: 23 Nov 1992 04:50:03 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


Take a Polaroid snapshot of something and watch it slowly transform from a
white blob into a nifty picture..

-- 
,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,
,;';,   caedmon@ucscb.ucsc.edu               Jeff Ishaq          .,;';,
,;';,   I am a meatball:  Bite me.           Guitar withdrawal!  .,;';,
,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,.,;';,
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From: kfseefel@mtu.edu (KURT F. SEEFELDT)
Subject: Re: RFD?:  alt.drugs.lsd
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:35:38 GMT

There already exists an incredable amount of cross posting
between alt.drugs and talk.politics.drugs.  My question is
how many of the alt.drugs.lsd articles would be cross posted to
alt.drugs?

I would venture to quess about 95% (+/- 5%).

The energy expended to form the new newsgroup would only
increase the amount of net traffic by sending duplicate
articles. Conserve energy, both yours and the net's.

- kurt <kfseefel@mtu.edu>
From: maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J L Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:36:15 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk


My friends listen to Siouxsie and the Banshees which I find intensely
disturbing. For me, anything by Ozric Tentacles is ideal - really mellow
stuff.

Cheers,
Jason
-- 
                       Jason L Saunders [ RouE ]      
                     email: maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk
snail: Warwick Business School, University of Warwick, Coventry CV4 7AL, UK
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: j1moody@darwin.cc.nd.edu (Humpty Dumpty)
Subject: Re: "ex" smokers of MJ
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:12:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.114618.29569@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
mleayr@nyx.cs.du.edu (matthew leayr) wrote:
> One guy I know will be with others when they are smoking,
> joining in the experience, but will refuse to smoke, despite his having
> been a regular smoker about a year ago. His reason is that he "starts
> thinking about things too much" whatever that means.

Among laughing, slacking, eating, sleeping and spacing that many a ganja
smoker
experience, many also find their thoughts amplified, so that each thought
is enhanced, with new shades, sides or depth. For many, this experience is
not enjoyable since either the amplification is too painful, or they simply
like reality at the level that it is without alteration from the Ganja.
Just a humble opinion. . .
From: butler@cluster.gps.caltech.edu (Bryan Butler)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Brands of LSD
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:28:22 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: cluster.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Nov17.215022.14000@cgrg.ohio-state.edu> djh@osc.edu (David Heisterberg) writes:
>In article <ringo.721978350@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo) writes:
>>Interesting. I'd never seen a microdot, though I had heard of them. I have
>>had (though never taken) small tablets which I was told was mescaline. As
>>I recall they were purple and pretty tiny. What does mescaline look like?
>
>The effective dose of mescaline is a couple hundred milligrams.
>A microdot's worth of mescaline wouldn't do anything.  It was
>most likely LSD.
>-- 
>David J. Heisterberg (djh@osc.edu)       What men value is not rights
>The Ohio Supercomputer Center            but privileges.
>Columbus, Ohio                             -- H.L. Mencken

well, as i recall, the mescaline which i have seen came in
small cylindrical pill-like things.  they were about 3 mm in
diameter and 4 mm in length.  if two such "pills" were taken,
their density would only need to be on the order of 3.5 g/cc
to produce 200 mg of material.  granted, this is heavy (like 
rocks), but not incredibly unbelievable.  also, if you want
more dose, just take more of the things.

        -bryan
         butler@cluster.gps.caltech.edu
      or butler_b@caltech.edu

"Instead of all of this energy and effort directed at the war
to end drugs, how about a little attention to drugs which will
end war?"	Albert Hoffman
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: David Honig@ics.uci.edu
Subject: Re: Sodium Pentatol - availability
Reply-To: honig@ics.uci.edu (David Honig)
Organization: UC Disneyland, in the Kingdom of Bren
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:39:40 GMT

 djohnsen@netcom.com (Don "nod" Johnsen) writes: 
>My wife and I were having a debate regarding the recently defeated measure 161
>in California, the right-to-die bill. I stated that methods of suicide, 
>including effective medical ones, are already available to those who wish to
>look hard enough.
>
>I suggested sodium pentatol (not sure if I'm spelling that correctly) as an 
>appropriate vehicle for demise, noting that I'd seen it listed as a drug of
>choice for lethal injections administered to condemmed people in some states.
>She challenged me as to its availability, and suggested I try and find some.
>
>As I'm not actually interested in commiting suicide, this is an academic
>pursuit - but is it possible to purchase it, or its precursors, on the open
>market? Is it tightly controlled? Can one make it at home?
>
>Ideas regarding other appropriate methods of demise would be welcomed.
>
>Sorry that it's not much of a recreational substance (or topic for that matter.)
>
>
>
>-- 
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>Donald M. Johnsen                                         djohnsen@netcom.com
> Ambush Productions                                 Voicemail: (408) 450-2201
> Multimedia Engineering---Audio-Video-Computer-Design-Installation-Support---


pentothol is just a fast acting barbituate.  could be fun for
downer aficionados.  also lethal w/ ethanol.

-- 
David Honig

Gun control is hitting your target.
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From: ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho)
Subject: Re: ULTIMATE ACID MOVIE!!
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:10:36 GMT


  Koyaaniqatsi?  Blue Velvet?
From: heath@gacvx1.gac.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Lighting for MJ
Date: 24 Nov 92 05:04:17 GMT
Organization: Gustavus Adolphus College, St. Peter, Minnesota
Nntp-Posting-User: heath


	Has anyone used MV (mercury vapor) and/or HPS (high pressure sodium)
lights for growing?  A recent article in High Times said that using these two
lights would increase the potency of MJ?  Any comments or experiences with
this?

Heath
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist)
Subject: Re: Acid consumption
Organization: 'Operation: Mindcrime'
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:00:29 GMT

saumure@bnr.ca (Roch Saumure) writes:
>(1) In comparaison with other LSD users, is this FOAF drug usage
>    above normal? Can we say he is abusing the drug? What is the 
>    average acid consumption for a user from your experience?

What is normal?  What is abuse?  What do you think?  If the only reason
why you think he's abusing it is because he's using that quantity, then
he's probably not abusing it.  If the rest of his life is fucked up,
then he might be...  I know people that use more, however and I don't
consider them to abuse it...

>(2) His peak consumption dates to about 5 years ago. Since then,
>    he only took a couple (5 or so). He did not experience any 
>    flashbacks at all. Should he expect secondary effects (flashbacks,
>    schizophrenia,...) in the years to come due to past LSD usage?

I doubt it.  Not if he hasn't had anything happen in the past 5 years,
and if he hasn't had a schizophrenic break yet, he probably never will. 

-- 
Lamont Granquist  lamontg@u.washington.edu
  "When dogma enters the brain, all intellectual activity ceases."
                                      -- Robert Anton Wilson
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman)
Subject: Re: Acid Music (sorry to net.vets)
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 16:32:43 GMT

In <92322.234945SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu> <SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>      If you can get your hands on it, listen to Coil's album: LSD - Love's
>Secret Domain. Deeply weird.

I did that on my first trip.

A friend told me later that he thinks that the whole album is
based on the same chord progressions at different speeds and in
different arrangements.  That kind of corroborates my whole feeling
that I was listening to a carefully crafted 3-D audio trip toy,
which looked at the same themes from different angles (hence
the 3-Dness of it).  There was a very definite sense of space,
not just sounds.

I would recommend it as well.
-- 
Pete Hartman		       Bradley University	pwh@bradley.bradley.edu
                She was the kind of woman who lived for others.
                You could tell the others by their hunted look.
From: nkg1129@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Noah Knowles )
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: N2O
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:58:42 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

vetter@mtu.edu (STEVEN J. VETTER) writes:

[stuff deleted]
>    A couple of difficulties I 
>  imagine with the cannisters would be:

>	1.  The rigid-walled cannister would not push out any more
>            nitrous once the nitrous inside was reduced to atmospheric
>            pressure, making it much more difficult to inhale that last
>            bit gas.
>	2.  Depending on the volume of the cannister, it might require
>            more than one cartridge to fill, but any more than the 
>	    right amount would simply increase the pressure inside 
> 	    the cannister, basically re-pressurizing the gas that 
>	    you are going through such great pains to depressurize.

>  If anyone has any first-hand experience with using the cannisters 
>  instead of a breaker and balloon, my FOAF would love me to tell
>  him about it.  Also, any info on acquiring nitrous in tanks would
>  be interesting.

>  vetter@mtu.edu

>  PS- I'M F___ING COLD !!!


As far as inhaling that last bit of nitrous goes (when the cannister pressure = 
outside pressure), it's not really a problem-- you can just suck the rest out 
while holding the valve down.

However, regarding overfilling of a cannister, a friend of mine once loaded 
4 cartridges, and when he tried to take a hit the force of the nitrous threw 
his head back! It took about five tries (and an unfortunate amount of wasted N2O) 
until the thing was down to a manageable pressure. I think 2, at most 3, 
cartridges is probably a good number (even 3 might take some practice &-}).

BTW, I second that request for info on acquiring nitrous in tanks (prices, 
availability, different tank sizes, etc). Also, I've heard mention of different 
grades of N2O, such as medical, commercial, etc. Is the gas in cartridges of a 
lower quality than nitrous from a tank?
From: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au (Bunweasel)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Pupil Dilation
Date: 22 Nov 92 05:00:47 GMT
Reply-To: michaeln@cs.uq.oz.au
Organization: Department of Computer Science, The University of Queensland

Does [A] normally dilate pupils?   To an uncomfortable extent?

If your pupils were dilated (for whatever reason), and you'd rather
they weren't what would be a good way to deal with this?

*Just handle it?
*Wear dark glasses?
*Take something to shut them down a bit?  [If so, what?]


--L'Ouisel Du Buns
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: ringo@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Ringo)
Subject: Re: Brands of LSD
Organization: Clarkson University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:32:30 GMT

lamontg@stein.u.washington.edu (Lamont Granquist) writes:

>Seen it.  Not sure exactly what its called, and meant to ask actually.  It
>looks sorta like a "plastic blotter paper" with little bulges in the
>plastic for each hit.  But probably the second most popular LSD is microdot
>which are just very small tablets. 

Interesting. I'd never seen a microdot, though I had heard of them. I have
had (though never taken) small tablets which I was told was mescaline. As
I recall they were purple and pretty tiny. What does mescaline look like?
That?

--John
From: ah589@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Troy Blum)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: supplies- query
Date: 16 Nov 1992 02:07:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Does anyone know the addresses of any scientific supply houses
from which I could order petri dishes and malt extract agar,
etc. ? Please e-mail me the addresses if you do. Thanks

Troy
-- 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.folklore.urban
From: bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson)
Subject: Re: Info needed on Spanish Fly !!!!!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:07:48 GMT

A chickpea is also called a garbonzo bean.

--
Bruce Watson  wats@nyx.cs.du.edu  Toy Cows, Toy Cows in Africa, Toy Cows
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lygariba@unix.amherst.edu (LISA YVONNE GARIBAY)
Subject: Need info on X and Nitrate
Summary: Info needed on Ecstasy and Nitrates
Keywords: X and Nitrates
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:22:58 GMT

hello.
This is my first posting, so no flames, please.

I need some information on ecstasy and nitrates.   First, I was wondering
if anyone could tell me the average price per pill/casule, and give me any
origins of the drug (i.e., where and when it was first developed/used,
where the best places are to get a hold of it, etc.).  As for nitrates, or
"poppers":  I have heard that these are great to use, with no side-effects
or long-term effects to worry about.  They were very popular in the sort
of underground subculture of the 70's and early 80's (some referred to it
as the drug of the sexual deviants), and I know they are still in existence
today though under a new formula (that has not been made illegal yet).
If anyone can tell me where and how to procure a few pills, it would be
much appreciated.

Thanks a lot,
Lisa.

e-mail to:  lygariba@unix.amherst.edu
         OR lygaribay@amherst.edu




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From: berger@atropa (Mike Berger)
Subject: Re: freezing mushrooms in liquid nitrogen
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:07:15 GMT

LILMARA@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Martin Lilly) writes:
>Don't freeze moist mushrooms- you will be sorely disappointed by the slimy,
>black goo that results. The main enemies of psilocybin are light and oxygen.
>Drying at low temps (<150 degrees F) until the shrooms are hard crackers will
>not affect potency adversely; these can then be stored in single dosage
>seal-a-meal aliquots in the freezer for at least a year.
*----
I find that drying affects potency severely.  After a couple of weeks, it
drops off drastically.  The black mushy stuff is the result of enzyme
activity.  You can prevent it by freeze-drying or blanching the mushrooms
before freezing.  Blanching requires no special equipment.  It doesn't
affect the potency.  The mushrooms will shrink somewhat, and take on a
blander flavor, but they can be drained, frozen (heat sealed in small
quantities or individually), and kept for a long time.
--
	Mike Berger
	Internet    berger@atropa.stat.uiuc.edu
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