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From: air4114a@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Carr)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: Re: I.S. Career.
Date: 11 Nov 92 16:16:56 GMT
Reply-To: air4114a@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Carr)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In comp.infosystems, NG7165A@auvm.american.edu (Narendra Gangadhar) writes:
>This is my first semester in the M.S. in I.S. My background is accounting, and
>I have very little experience with computers. In my undergrad, I worked with Lo
>tus and a couple toher accounting packages. I feel that I am not as computer li
>terate as I should be. I would like to know if computer literacy, to the extent
>of programming, is necessary, or would a knowledge of systems design and
>related concepts be sufficient to enable me to be a competent systems analyst.

Narendra,

1.  Get in there and take as many undergraduate/graduate
computer science electives as you possibly can.  

2.  My chief complaint about IS/MIS curriculums is that
there is entirely too much MBA emphasis, and not nearly 
enough technical emphasis.  

3.  The result is that in my humble opinion, many IS/MIS
graduates do not gain a fundamental understanding of the
underlying technology, and consequently make flawed 
assumptions and decisions regarding software engineering,
hardware configuration, and networking issues.

Very Respectfully,
Steve Carr
CDR, SC, USN
MS Information Systems, Naval Postgraduate School, 1985
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:41:49 EST
From: Mohammed A. Al-Hedaithy <MA5024A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: Choosing a graduate major

A scholarship has been awarded to me to pursue a master's degree in Busness
Administration(accounting) or in Information Systems. Ineed to decide which one
of the tow fields is better for me.I have a B.A. in accounting and nine years of
experience in the banking industry in Saudi Arabia most of which were in the
accounting and finance department. I just took the C.P.A. examination and have
a good chance of passing.Iam from Saudi Arabia and intend to go back after grat
uation. I shall be grateful to recieve your advice and what are the factors you
think I need to consider.
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:21:15 EST
From: Mike Rampton <MRAMPTON@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: Re: Communication problems in IS

Then there is the issue of typos, one of which I made in my origional message.
Down towards the end, it should read "One was NOT specific enough while another
jumped to their own conclusion."  The NOT part was accidentally omitted and
changed the whole meaning of the message.

Mike Rampton
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Subject: communications and teamwork
From: lll@netlink.cts.com (Larry Lancaster)
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 22:33:20 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

In response to Mary Yeatras posting. I agree with her on the importance 
of business communications and team efforts.  I am currently a student at 
the Center for the Vocationally Challenged, Grossmont College, El Cajon 
CA. in a L.A.N.Specialist pgm. The content was shaped by a Business 
Advisory Council in San Diego. Two major components of the program are 
comms and teams.  Makes sense to me...
Thanks for listening  Laurance Lancaster

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From:         "(George Galang)" <galang@ERDAS.COM>
Subject:      Re: MIRANDA Programming Language

What is MIRANDA?  Is it specific to GIS?  or generic and usable
as a programming language to use in other scientific applications?

G
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From:         "Mr. J. Marsden" <jmarsden@UXB.LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Use of GIS in Epidemiology and Public Health

Fellow netters,
I noticed the recent chat about epidemiology and GIS, please see below
for publications about work done at our laboratory. There is a small
charge to cover printing and postage given in pounds sterling, eg #5.

WP14
Hirschfield, Batey, Brown and Marsden
The Spatial Epidemiology of Food Poisoning in Blackpool, Wyre and Fylde:
Preliminary results. (March 1990; 45pp price #5)

WP18
Brown, Batey, Hirschfield and Marsden
Poisson Chi Square Mapping, GIS and Geodemographic Analysis: the
Spatial and Aspatial Analysis of Relatively Rare Conditions. (Sept 1990;
26pp price #5)

WP30
Brown, Hirschfield, Marsden, Rao, Tsoukalas and Bundred
A GIS-linked Database for Analysing the Deployment of Community-Based
Health Services on the Wirral: Aspects of the Analysis of GP Patient Data
(Aug 1992 35pp price #10)


Further details can be obtained from:
URPERRL
Dept of Civic Design
University of Liverpool
PO box 147
Liverpool
L69 3BX

Or I can send you a one page abstract if you send your address.

John Marsden
From: David_Paul_STEVENS@UMAIL.UMD.EDU ((ds135))
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re.: GIS, Epidemiology and Public Health
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:45:00 GMT
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From what I've seen from the examples given, presently the use of GIS for
Epidemiological research focuses mainly on the use of GIS as a mapping tool
... 'mapping schistosomiasis'; some of the examples given though do give us
the idea that more advanced analytical tools are being used like the
address-matching of the 'confirmed Lyme disease' and then overlaying the
maps with other databases obtaining data that can be analysed using
statistical software.

But my present interest lies a bit further along the planning process
... from this specific discussion what I would be curious to know is if anyone
has tried to use a GIS for analysing epidemiological data and then using the
results of the analysis as an input for locating health facilities (using the
same GIS or SDSS). The idea would be to use location-allocation modelling for
siting these facilities and have the presence, or the future possibility of a
presence, of a specific disease/illness as an additional constraint to be
considered in the model, and have all this modelling done in a GIS environment.

Also, does anyone know of any studies that have been carried out, or are
being carried out, using a GIS to locate health (or public) facilities? I've
come across a couple of references  .... but I would be interested in (and
in need of) receiving information from this discussion list.

ttfn

David Stevens
Graduate Fellow
Department of Geography
University of Maryland at College Park
e-mail: ds135@umail.umd.edu
From: rob@SPOCK.UARK.EDU (Rob Dzur)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: REQUEST -- Looking for NADCON software
Date: 13 Nov 92 03:17:33 GMT
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For NADCON software contact:

National Geodetic Information Center
N/CG174, Rockwall Building, Room 24
National Geodetic Survey, NOAA
Rockville, MD 20852
phone: 1-301-443-8631

According to the August 1991 NGS information flyer, NADCON costs $50.oo
per copy.  I know there is a more recent addition of the NGS info
flyer so you might give them a call.

Rob Dzur   -  rob@kirk.uark.edu
Center for Advanced Spatial Technology
University of Arkansas
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From: gariguer@cgsvax.claremont.edu
Subject: info request: Maritime Surface picture GIS
Organization: The Claremont Graduate School
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:51:49 PST


I would be interested in knowing if there exist any GIS that would
help manage a maritime surface picture. It would keep help keep 
track of objects like ships, derricks, icebergs, oils spills, etc..

Thanks in advance.


Robert Garigue
Directorate of Naval Requirements
Departement of National Defence
Ottawa, Canada

RGarigue@dmcs.dnd.ca
Voice: 1.819.994.8779
Fax: 1.819.997.2883

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Date:         Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:35:26 MET
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From:         Elwin Koster <ekoster@LET.RUG.NL>
Subject:      Re: REQUEST Rec. for SIMPLE GIS for DOS
              "GIS-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu" at Nov 12, 92 7:32 pm

===========================================================================
  	Elwin Koster
	University of Groningen
	Architectural History
	contact me by:
	email - ekoster@let.rug.nl
	phone - (+31) 50 636096
	mail  - PO Box 716
		9700 AS Groningen
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>
> Etak Inc in Menlo Park has "C" language libraries which allow one to
> develop a Mapping application.  The libraries allow the user to build
> as complex a product as they wish.  Development time may be as short as
> 2-3 days for a simple program.  There is also now an Etak Software
> Developers you may be interested in.  If you want an off-the shelf
> product, several people have built packages using Etak's libs.
> For more information please send e-mail to ramaa@etak.com or
> info@etak.com.
>
> Etak Inc.
> Inside Sales.
> 415-328-3825.
> 415-328-3148 Fax.
>

Please send me more information, this is an GIS I have been waiting for for
years !

Elwin Koster
Information Systems in Architecture
University of Groningen
the Netherlands
ekoster@let.rug.nl
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Date:         Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:39:09 -0500
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From:         i43_ps02@RED.WHOI.EDU
Subject:      DCW documents availability?

I believe it has been reported on this net and others that the documents
distributed for Vector Product Format and Digital Chart of the World are
currently "out". Could a member of this list verify this for me? These
would be: MIL-D-89009 and MIL-STD-600006. Thanks in advance.
Peter Schlesinger
The Woods Hole Research Center
i43_ps02@red.whoi.edu
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From:         JP Freeley <jpf@CHINOOK.CIT.CORNELL.EDU>
Subject:      Data Request

Dearest Netters,

I am looking for two set of data.

1. Political Boundaries for North and South America. State bounds are needed for
   US and country bounds needed elsewhere.  It seems like this is a dataset
   which should be available.

2. "Protected" Area boundaries for North and South America. National Parks,
    Wildlife Refuge's, US Forest Service land, etc. Should be available
    for US somewhere. Other countries would be bonus.

Both data sets should be be accurate to at least 1:500K.

Although we will consider any sources at this time.

Free data a definate plus but money is available to purchase it.

Please e-mail me direct and if I get enough response, I will compile a list.

Oh yeah, I'd like to be able to use it in ArcInfo or a compatible format.

Thanks
JP Freeley
jpf@chinook.cit.cornell.edu
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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:40:52 EST
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From:         Stephen Quan <quan@SOL.SURV.UTAS.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: MIRANDA Programming Language
              Downunder !" at Nov 11, 92 2:39 pm

This is not GIS related, not the slightess????

> 	Our computer science people want undergrad students to switch
> 	to MIRANDA as their introductory computer language at university.

Miranda is a functional programming language.  At our University it is
introduced at 2nd year university.

Functional programming is radically different to Procedural programming,
but may be the language of the future.  There is a vague similarity to
Prolog in regards to its list [head|tail] notation.

At the moment, use of Miranda, as I see it, is mainly academic.  It is
a very formal, mathematically based language with recursion as its only
form of iteration (looping), NOT a language for beginners or novices.

> 	At present we start them on PASCAL, then move to FORTRAN and C
> 	through the years (actually C is taught first).
>
> 	No-one here has heard of MIRANDA and I would welcome any views
> 	on it.

As mentioned above, Miranda is a radically different language than Pascal,
Fortran and C.  I highly recommend if it were to be taught, it should be
taught as an optional unit or complementary unit.

Here is some sample Miranda :

factorial n = 1, if n = 1
            = n * factorial(n-1), otherwise

fibonacci n = 1, if n = 1 \/ n = 2
            = (fibonacci (n-1))  +  (fibonacci (n-2)), otherwise

> 	Thanks in advance,
>
> 	Gary Hunter
> 	The University of Melbourne
> 	Australia
>
> 	gary@survey.dn.mu.oz.au

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From:         STGG8004@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE
Subject:      Re: hybrid gis definition

> Can anyone please clarify what constitutes a Hybrid GIS - i.e what
> characteristics such should possess ?

According to my understanding of the term, I think it is used to refer to a
system such as ARC/INFO, which has been created by integrating "sub-systems"
that are stand-alone software products in their own right. So that ARC/INFO
incorporates the INFO (semi-)relational dbms, which you can buy as a separate
stand-alone proprietary database system should you so desire. So a hybrid GIS
is one which assembles proprietary components into a larger, synergistic
assemblage

> Also, based on the definition or description just given, are there any
> systems currently available that meet your definition or description ?

ARC/INFO; Geo-SQL (Autocad graphics engine mated with a proprietary SQL
rdbms such as ORACLE); GEOVIEW (which used ORACLE and GKS - see Waugh and
Healy in IJGIS vol 2 part 2) and other experimental /one-off systems based
on GIMMS and ORACLE that were developed a few years back in Edinburgh;
The earlier versions of ILWIS (which again used ORACLE database software
embedded in the system - something I believe was dropped in later versions);
etc. I am sure there are others...

NB: I recognise that most GIS can ACCESS, and pass data to/from external
dbms, but for them to be "hybrid" systems, I would say that the linkages
between graphics and dbms have to be actually software-engineered into the
system so that the subcomponents merge to effectively become a single
software product.

It will be interesting to see if my definition coincides with that of anyone
else! :-)

Darius Bartlett
From: dgillmor@msen.com (Dan Gillmor)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Question on Atlas Pro/Mac
Date: 9 Nov 1992 03:11:21 GMT
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I'm wondering if there's a way to create new columns in the attributes
spreadsheet and calculate, say, a percentage using two other columns. Or
do I have to export the attributes, do it in a real spreadsheet and then
reload the mapping software. As my subject states, I'm working with Atlas
Pro for the Mac.

Many thanks for any replies.

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From:         TWR@GEOVAX.ED.AC.UK
Subject:      Information for Bartholomew Chest Data Users

9th November 1992

Would users of the Bartholomew 1:14 000 000 world database in
the UK academic CHEST community please refer to the group
CHEST-BARTHOLOMEWS@uk.ac.mailbase for an important clarification about
importing and using the data in Arc/Info.

If you are not already subscribed to the CHEST-BARTHOLOMEWS news group
you might find it useful to do so. I think sending the single word
help as a message to mailbase@uk.ac.mailbase will get you started. Generally
it is much like the GIS-L listserver.

Yours sincerely,

Timothy Rideout
Database Sales Technical Support
Bartholomew,
12 Duncan Street,
Edinburgh, EH9 1TA,
Scotland, Europe.

Tel: (031) 667 9341 Fax: (031) 662 4282 E-Mail twr@uk.ac.ed.geovax

The above comments are designed to assist users of Bartholomew data,
but are not guaranteed to be correct, not to commit Bartholomew to any
contractual agreement. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
From: FRITH@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA (Mike Frith)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: career choice
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:38:49 GMT
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Dear Netters,  a fellow graduate student, who is finishing a Master's
in Cartography, has asked me what to do next, a PhD or another Master's
in GIS.  The student has little experience with GIS but realizes that
there is great opportunity in the field.  The student does not want to
teach but find a job.  I have suggested that another Master's in GIS
would provide her with the necessary skills and knowledge to achieve
the desired goals.  What are your comments on this matter.  What are
some other options?
Thanks
mike frith

frith@uregina1.bitnet
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Date:         Tue, 10 Nov 1992 10:07:37 BRA
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From:         Margaret Simoes <IGF01001@UFRJ.BITNET>
Subject:      OO DTM

Dear GIS-Lers,
     Does anybody know any references about Object Oriented Digital
Terrain Modelling ?
     Any help will be appreciated.
     Please reply directly to: Margaret@ipanema.nce.ufrj.br
     Thanks in anticipation.

Margaret Simoes
GeoProcessing Group
NCE/UFRJ - Rio de Janeiro
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From:         "(Farrell W. Jones)" <farrell@CYPRESS.CADGIS.LSU.EDU>
Subject:      IGDS to ARC

Fellow net users:
   I need some advice on moving landuse polygonal data from Intergraph
MGE to Arc/Info.  In MGE, the polygons are represented by
linestrings which form the polygon boundaries and text strings
which mark the centroids of the polygons.  The text strings also
hold the landuse codes for the polygons.
   Using the IGDS to Arc translator, we have been able to load the
boundaries as an Arc coverage and the centroids as a coverage.  However,
here is the problem.  In MGE, I would use the labelload process
to load the text string into the column of the Oracle database table
that would the landuse attribute.  I cannot find an equivalent process
within Arc that would do the same.  Does anybody know how to get Arc
to load the text as an attribute?  Is there another way I should
be approaching this problem?

Farrell Jones                  email: farrell@cypress.cadgis.lsu.edu
Systems Manager                voice: (504) 388-6134
LSU CADGIS Research Lab          fax: (504) 388-6400
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Date:         Mon, 9 Nov 1992 07:56:00 GMT
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From:         Peter Halls <PJH1@VAXA.YORK.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: GIS in elections

A member of our Department of Politics and I took a look at the possibility
of using GIS for predicting the effects of 'strategic voting' in the UK
General Election in the Spring ... but, at the time, decided that the data
to hand was inadequate for any meaningful analysis ...

He has, on a back burner at present, intentions to investigate 'GIS in Politics'
by playing with the results of the last General Election or so.  Life is
somewhat complicated here by the habit of governemnts to alter constituency
boundaries between elections (to assist seat retention?) ...

Peter Halls
University of York

PJH1@UK.AC.YORK ... or t'other way about
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From: sprent@sol.surv.utas.edu.au (Tony Sprent)
Subject: Precision of velocity determination using GPS
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 03:45:44 GMT


I am investigating the possible use of GPS for the calibration of vehicle
speedometers. Can anyone give me any information they may have on the precisiom
of velocity determination using standard C/A code GPS receivers, or can give
me the name of anybody who could help me.

Any assistance by email to
 
			sprent@sol.surv.utas.edu.au (Tony Sprent)
 
would be greatly appreciated.
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From:         "(Ashvin Bhikharidas)" <ashvin@SHIVA.EARTH.MONASH.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Problems with Arc/Info 6.01 & HP 7576a Draftpro Exl

We are trying to get a Hewlet Parkard Draftpro Exl 7576a Plotter to
work with ARC/INFO 6.0.1 on a SUN IPX workstation. Has anyone made
this link before?
	We know the plotter links with pc Arc/info, but it apparently
won't plot out Arc/Info graphics files from the Sun Workstation -we can
however get a banner output but not the graphics.

	Any help or ideas will be gratefully appreciated

Ashvin Bhikharidas
Dept of Geography & Environmental Science
Monash University
Australia 3168
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