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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:28:44 EST
From:         Dick Corrigan <dickc@HPWAISVR.WAL.HP.COM>
Subject:      Re: consecration of Russia
              93 10:44 am

>
> On Jan 6,  7:40am, CCCAMPER@MIZZOU1.BITNET wrote:
> } Subject: Re: consecration of Russia
> }   According to Sr. Lucia of Fatima, God will allow the grace for the
> } consecration to be made when enough people on the earth are living the
> } message of Fatima. (Medjugorje's message is nearly the same, an
> } encouragement) As Sr. Lucia says, Russia will be a tool of the
> } chastisement and if we begin to live the message of Fatima, we can
> } help to bring about a lessening of this chastisment.
> }   The consecration *will* be made, but "it will be late". In fact, it
> } is said that Sr. Lucia is to live to see the beginning of the chastisement.
> } Which is interesting because it is also said that as soon as the
> } consecration is made she will pass to her eternal reward. If this part
> } is valid, then the chastisments will begin before this nearly 86 year
> } old woman dies.
>
>         [... deletions...]
> }   This apostalate is headed by Fr. Nicholas Gruner. He worked to bring
> } the bishops of the world together for the 75th anniversary of the apparition
> } at Fatima on October 13, 1992. (the anniversary of the Miracle of the
> } Sun) Speaking with a friend the other day, I learned that while Fr. Gruner
> } was in Fatima in October, on his way to the altar it was very crowded, and
> } he was attacked by several men and who slammed him into the wall, and
> } roughed him up enough that it was necessary he go to the hospital. There
> } were other bizarre events like this that occurred that make it clear that
> } Satan truly does not wish this consecration to be made.
> }-- End of excerpt from CCCAMPER@MIZZOU1.BITNET
>
>         Quoted from _Our_Sunday_Visitor_ 12/20/92, Fr. Sheedy's 'Ask Me
> A Question" column:
>
>         "The magazine Fatima Crusader is published by Father Nicholas
> Gruner without Church approval.  Bishops of dioceses where Father Gruner
> set up offices have asked Catholics not to support the effort.
>         On Oct. 7, 1992, the Holy See took the unusual step of publishing
> in L'Osservatore Romano, the Vatican daily newspaper, a declaration that
> denounced a meeting Father Gruner had organized at Fatima.
>         It stated that Father Gruner 'was stripped of the faculty to
> perform ministerial acts in the Diocese of Leiria-Fatima.'
>         Earlier, the superior of the convent where Sister Lucy, the
> Fatima visionary, resides, informed Father Gruner he no longer had
> permission to say Mass there.
>         Sister Lucy wrote in 1984 that the consecration of Russia was
> done properly by Pope John Paul II on March 25, 1984.  Father Gruner
> denies this."
>
>         So according to this the consecration was done, and Fr.
> Gruner is probably not a good source of information.
>
> GZ
>
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>                  Semper fidelis Christi et Vicarii sui.
>
From the Marion Movement of Priest, which contain messages received by
interior locution from Our Blessed Mother to Fr. Don Stefano Gobbi.
Milan, May 13,1987 #351 "Into What an Abyss You Have Fallen"
 d - Thus the night of sin has enveloped the world and evil has spread
 everywhere like a terrible cancer. There is an unwillingness to
 recognize sin as an evil; on the contrary it is openly justified and
 exalted as a good. People no longer go to confession. They live and
 die habitually in mortal sin and every day how many souls go to hell,
 because there is no one to pray and sacrifice for thier salvation.
   -My request that Russia be consecrated to me, by the Pope together
   with all the bishops, has not been accepted and thus she has
   spread her errors in every part of the world.

Akita (Japan) Sept 15, 1987 #362 "Why Am I Still Weeping"
 d - From the eyes of this image of myself I have caused miraculous
 tears to fall more than a hundred times and over the course of
 several years several years

Vienna (Austria), Aug 31, 1988 #387 "The Eyes Raised To Mary"
 p - With Austria and Germany, from here I Bless the surrounding
 countries which are still under the Yoke of a great slavery and
 today I announce that the moment of thier liberation is close.

 Berlin Wall down 11-9-89

 God Bles

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