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From: jaymin@maths.tcd.ie (Jo Jaquinta)
Subject: Re: The Irish Election - My Two Pence
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Distribution: soc.culture.celtic
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:12:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov21.213602.2040@Princeton.EDU> kjcarey@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Kevin J. Carey) writes:
>Personally I think Labour will do very well.
>In any normal country, 20% unemployment should have people on the
>streets and at the barricades, so at the very least you'd think it would
>translate into votes for the left wing, and with Labour as the only
>credible left wing party, they should benefit. 
	Labour Party? LEFT WING? The Labour party in Ireland would not
be described as "left wing" by anyone. Oh, yes: compared to Fianna Fail,
Fine Gael, or especially the Progressive Democrats (which are neither
Progressive or Democratic but you could hardly call a political party
the Repressive Fascists) they are left of them but still right of centre. 
The dumped Mary Robinson because she was too radical (She used the "S"
word, no, not "Shitty" (thank you Albert Renolds) but "Socialism").
Only the Worker's Party (and now the Democratic Left) are really
left wing and they are *really* left wing.
	I agree with your assessment that Labour will do well. They hit
22% in the last MRBI poll! I'm for it. It is about time we had some new
crooks in charge. Personally, my first preference goes for Dustin.
				Jo Grant

_______________________________________________________________________________
Jo Grant			|	VOTE MARY ROBINSON HIGH KING
jaymin@lanczos.maths.tcd.ie	|	WHAT MAEVE CAN'T DO SHE CAN
44 Bancroft Ave., Tallaght,	|	VOTE DUSTIN TAOISEACH
Dublin 24, IRELAND		|	HE'S YOUR ONLY MAN
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Wednesday, 18 Nov 1992 17:45:40 EST
From: <IO20414@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: CORK UNIVERSITY??

Does anyone know if Cork University is connected to this
system?    If so, are there some computer operators that I
could contact who might be of some assistance in teaching my
step-sister about the  E-mail system?

H.I. Hasey

feel free to E-mail me directly

io20414@maine.maine.edu
From: ulick@bernini.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Collies and Kilts
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:13:23 GMT
Organization: OUC, University of Notre Dame

In article <Bxy5Ex.LHu@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's)) writes:
>Look it up in the AKC or UKC dog book.  The "Lassie" type collie
>is known as the "Scotch Collie".  The name collie is believed to come

I always thought that breed was known as a Rough Collie.  But then one never
knows what those in England or America calls dogs.  I mean who in Ireland
would ever call a Red Setter anything else?  BTW in Ireland we have a border
collie who bears a striking resmbelence to Lassie, except for a certain amount
of Black hair (but mostly tan and white - and very hairy).  I personally
doubt if there is any significnet difference between the 2 supposed breeds
of Collie.  


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+ 'There was a  master come unto the earth, + Ulick Stafford, PP-ASEL       +
+    born in the holy land of Indiana,      + Dept of Chemical Engineering, +
+ in the mystical hills east of Fort Wayne'.+ Notre Dame, IN 46556          +
+      B'fhearr liom bheith ag eitilt.      +    ulick@bach.helios.nd.edu   +
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Elena A Christofides)
Subject: Hall tartan
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:07:11 GMT

Does anyone out there have an idea about the Hall clan. I just married into the
family and I know that they only just came over from Scotland around the civil 
war (1850's or there abouts). I'd like to know if there is a tartan, a coat of 
arms, a family crest, stuff like that.
Thanks, Elena

echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: esharp@sage.cc.purdue.edu (The Baker)
Subject: Battlefield Band
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: all
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:35:05 GMT

 To all of the many people who sent me advice and comments on the Battlefield
Band, Thank you very much.  I have now found a group that I can play when my
roommate gets tired of my other music (read opera, modern German, Chieftains,
Classical, a little Punk...).  Of course, he does like the fact that I am
now more likely to put this CD on than pick up my practice chanter and start
playing (if it can even be called such).   It is truly an experience to hear
"The Rovin Dies Hard" at a volume that would quiet a jet engine (esp. after
someone down the hall has decided to see just how loud their speakers will go).
Again, Thank You very much 
.
*******************************************************************************
Edwin Sharp********************************************************************
esharp@sage.cc.purdue.edu******************************************************
Brewer, Baker, Sir Walter Scott collector**************************************
Current search: Scott's _Border Minstrelsy_***********************************
******************************************************************************  *
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's))
Subject: Re: Collies and Kilts
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:45:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.091323.12399@news.nd.edu> ulick@bernini.helios.nd.edu (Ulick Stafford) writes:
>In article <Bxy5Ex.LHu@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's)) writes:
>>Look it up in the AKC or UKC dog book.  The "Lassie" type collie
>>is known as the "Scotch Collie".  The name collie is believed to come
>
>I always thought that breed was known as a Rough Collie.  But then one never
>knows what those in England or America calls dogs.  I mean who in Ireland
>would ever call a Red Setter anything else?  BTW in Ireland we have a border
>collie who bears a striking resmbelence to Lassie, except for a certain amount
>of Black hair (but mostly tan and white - and very hairy).  I personally
>doubt if there is any significnet difference between the 2 supposed breeds
>of Collie.  
>
>
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 
>+ 'There was a  master come unto the earth, + Ulick Stafford, PP-ASEL       +
>+    born in the holy land of Indiana,      + Dept of Chemical Engineering, +
>+ in the mystical hills east of Fort Wayne'.+ Notre Dame, IN 46556          +
>+      B'fhearr liom bheith ag eitilt.      +    ulick@bach.helios.nd.edu   +
>+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>

In the USA the "Lassie" collie is known as a Rough Collie (there is
also a smooth version that is short haired).  In the UKC and the
International Kennel Clubs it is often refered toas a Scotch Collie.
The Tri-color version of the Rough Collie is predomantly black
with tan eyebrow markings, tan down the sides of the muzzle,
tan down the bottom half of the legs (to the white paws) and tan under
the tail.  The tri color usually has a white collar, white feet, and
a white bib and tail tip.  The sable and white color is the "Lassie"
tan and white color.  

The is a large significagance between the Rough Collie and the Border
collie.  Rough collies are 65-75 lbs on average, 22 - 26 inches at the
shoulder, and more mellow in personality.  The Rough collie has only
four acceptable color phases, tri-color, sable and white, blue-merle and
white , and white (mostly all white with a patch or so of color).

The Border collie is usually between 45 - 65 lbs, 20-24 inches at the
shoulder, and have high-strung, high energy personalities.  
The border collie can be found in colors of black and white, tan and white,
tri-color, blue-merle and white (with and without tan points), and 
black and tan (rare color).  

Marla B.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Subject: Re: Going to Ireland, need suggestions please
Organization: Massey University
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Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 03:49:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.014553.18609@lclark.edu> Ryan Powell,
ryanp@lclark.edu writes:
From: silver.e@zooid.guild.org (Eric Silver)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: OAK Brand Of Penny Whistle
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:21:35 GMT

Are any readers aware if OAK manufactures tin whistles
(penny whistles) in a key other than D ? If so, could
you please suggest a few suppliers. I personally find
the thinner walls of the Generation Brand whistle don't
have the same resonant ring the the OAK brand seems to
have.
Thanks in advance.

Eric Silver - York, Upper Canada.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: swelch@cae.wisc.edu (Steven Welch)
Subject: Study abroad in Ireland
Organization: College of Engineering, Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison
Date: 23 Nov 92 10:32:09 CST
Originator: swelch@sun-32.cae.wisc.edu



	I am planning on studying abroad in Ireland for a semester. I need
to find a cheap study abroad program. It will have to be mainly financed by
financial aid. Also, I would prefer that it be in a more 'gaelic' area. 
What I am so badly trying to say is that I don't want to be in an area like
Dublin that is overly Anglicized. My brother spent a summer in Ireland and
suggested that I try to go to somewhere like UC-Galway rather than UC-Dublin.
I would appreciate any information on UC-Dublin also, (it sounds as though
Trinity would be out of my price range). I will hopefully be studying 
Irish history, (anything but engineering for once). I also would like to 
know if there is any UC-X near where the original Dunn or Walsh clans or
counties(?) are, (Walsh changed to Welch in the potato famine trip over).
Excuse me for my ignorance and thank you for any info.
Thanks,
Steve 
__________________________________________________________________________
| Steven E. Welch      |                                                   |
| 22 S. Orchard St.    | University of Wisconsin-Madison                   |
| Madison, WI 53715    | Mechanical Engineering-senior                     |
| (608)251-8911        | Computer-Aided Engineering Center (CAE)-consultant|
| swelch@cae.wisc.edu  |                                                   |
|______________________|___________________________________________________|
'I remember you, hiccup, but I don't remember you being so beautiful'
Xref: sparky soc.culture.celtic:7433 rec.music.folk:8003
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 22 Nov 1992 19:16:54 MST
From: Dan Wilson <ATDYW@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Hall tartan

In his book TARTAN FOR ME!, 3rd ed, 1986,  Phillip D. Smith  suggests
Halls wear the Skene tartan. He is careful to point out that this does
not necessarily imply that there is a Clan connection, but in most cases
there is. For a more complete look a SURNAMES OF SCOTLAND by Black, and
any of the several books on tartans; i.e., SCOTS KITH AND KIN, etc.
From: sandell@chowning.CNMAT.Berkeley.EDU (Gregory J. Sandell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: Edinburgh Folk Festival
Date: 23 Nov 1992 18:39:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: chowning.cnmat.berkeley.edu

In article <1er431INNgsh@gap.caltech.edu> watson@ccsf.caltech.edu (Stephen  
H. Watson) writes:
> Can anyone tell me the dates of the 1993 Edinburgh Folk Festival?

Please post this answer!  Thank you
--
Greg Sandell
Research Fellow, Center for New Music and Audio Technologies (CNMAT)
sandell@cnmat.cnmat.berkeley.edu



Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: crdunlea@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Christopher R. Dunlea)
Subject: Re: actor on STAR TREK
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 18:56:03 EST

In article <1992Nov19.093435.28716@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>From: rbv@cypress.com
>>        but I'm not sure. More to the point, the accent he spoke with was
>>        supposed to have been an English accent, but it didn't sound like the
>>        English accents you usually hear on American TV shows.
>
>Accents on American TV shows which are supposed to be English
>accents frequently don't sound very much like English accents.
>Maybe someone actually got it right for once.
>
>Matthew Huntbach

The English actor on Star TRek is Patrick Stewart, who is bona fide
English. He worked on the Shakespearean stage for many years
before landing the Trek job. He plays  Capt. Picard. Is this the one being
referred to?

Chris


Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic,rec.music.folk
From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Subject: Message for Elaine.Charlson@sunehq.UK
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:13:15 GMT


Sorry for taking up this bandwidth here.

Elaine,
	I have been trying to reply to your mail, but I get the following 
error. I don't get this error when trying to mail anyone else, so I presume
the problem is at your end. Your return email address doesn't look valid - 
perhaps there should be a "co." before the "uk" ? 

	Craig

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From: ryanp@lclark.edu (Ryan Powell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Going to Ireland, need suggestions please
Date: 18 Nov 92 01:45:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Nov18.014553.18609
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

Hello there!  I just found out about this newsgroup and am very happy to have
found you after searching for so long.  I am travelling to Ireland in January  on an over-seas study program with 23 classmates and one instructor.  We 
will be spending appx. 1 month in Galway living with families then another 10
weeks in Dublin taking classes at Trinity and on our own.  I have a few 
questions for those of you who know those places or live there now.

1. Is there any possibility of Internet access from Dublin (i.e. is Trinity
hooked up to the net?)  I am an active e-mail/net user and would really
be able to use access in Dublin.  
2. I play the guitar and tin whistle and have put together some songs with 
a fellow guitar player who is also on the same program to Ireland.  Do any
of you happen to know of any regular open-mikes or suggested places we may
be able to play in either of these places (not for money, just for fun =+)>?
3.  Is there any other advice you can give an American college student who
is about to spend alot of time in Ireland?  Any specific sights you would 
reccomend or agencies we may be able to get involved with?  

Thanks much in advance!  I'm looking very forward to visiting the Emerald Isle
and getting to know it's people face to face.  I'll see you there!

 Ryan

		Guinness on me tonight, lads!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:27:48 EST
From: <CBM102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Internet Access in Limerick?

Penn State student
Trying to find out if there is any e-mail access sites in Limerick. My
girlfriend goes to school at the Limerick College of Arts & Design and
would like to be able to e-mail her [among other things ;-) ]. Does
anyone know if this college has a link to the net? Are there any links
in Limerick at all? She is of little help for she is computer illiterate
and does not know what to ask. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks
                               Chuck <cbm102@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
From: saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Marla Belzowski (K-9's))
Subject: Collies and Kilts
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:10:14 GMT


Well, I back again to pester you netters with a few more questions.
First of all, does anyone know of someone in Scotland that breeds and
trains collies?  I'm looking for a breeder/trainer of the old Scotch 
Collie, not the Border collie.  (the Scotch collie is the "Lassie" type).
I'm specifically looking for someone who still uses their collies for
herding (although they are probably not the premere herding dog, I'm
still looking for one.)  If I could have a name and address that would
be great!

Secondly, does anyone know what colours the kilts and tartans are
for the Eliot clan?  I've recently had a short conversation
with my grandma, and she said that there is/was and Elliot clan
that came down from the Highlands.  Also, if you know that clan
Symbol that would be great!  
    
    (PS  before you suggest I look for collies in the US, I
    already have three for US stock, and they can't herd
    well!  I want some new genes!!!)

----------
Marla Belzowski     saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
Mauii Nikki Belzowski CD CGC TDI CERF
Brittish Legend of Beowulf CD CGC TD{ CERF  tri-color collies
Legend's Year of Jubilee    sable & white collie
Newsgroups: soc.culture.celtic
Subject: US Currency in Ireland?
From: Aengus Lawlor <RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 08:26:12 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company


I'm going home for a few days next week, and I just remembered that when I
was home back in March, the bank was a bit wary about accepting either $50
or $100 bills. They would only allow me to deposit them into my account,
not anyone elses account, and had to sent them to somewhere central to
verify that they weren't forgeries.

But I can't remember whether the problem was with $100's or $50's!

I could avoid the hassle by using Travellers Cheques, but then I'd have
the hassle of signing all those forms, so if anyone can remember the details,
and can let me know by Friday afternoon, I'd appreciate it! (E-mail would
be appreciated, but if you're reading this in the US on Thursday, I'll
probably see your reponse on time if you just follow-up).

Thanks

Aengus
--
RBYAML@ROHMHAAS.COM                    Aengus Lawlor
RBYAML@ROHVM1.BITNET                   (who used to be ALAWLOR@DIT.IE)
"How about some of that famous Dublin wit, Barman?"
"Certainly, sir. Would that be Dry or Sparkling?"
From: filippou@cs.mcgill.ca (Dimitrios FILIPPOU)
Subject: Re: M.I.L.S. - NEWS 13/11/92
Summary: Don't change original names!
Organization: SOCS - McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:49:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.105753.18689@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> 
amils@nyx.cs.du.edu (Sasa: aka Alex MILS) writes:

>BULGARIA SUPPORTS BALKAN STABILITY

 [stuff deleted]

>The Bulgarian President, Zelju Zelev, has also added his approval
>to the Greek plan, but he told the Greek daily newspaper,
>"Solun," that Greece's insistence on a change of name for
  ~~~~~~
>Macedonia was "incomprehensible" and "unreasonable."

There does *not* exist a Greek daily newspaper with the name "Solun"!
Most likely, you are talking about "Thessaloniki", which is published
in Thessaloniki, Macedonia, Greece.

Dimitrios Filippou


Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
From: souissi@ec.ecn.purdue.edu (Ridha Souissi)
Subject: Kanun-i-serbian chetniks (was Kanun -i-Rayah)
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 01:03:30 GMT


1 -  As many Bosnian Muslims as possible must be slaughtered.
2 -  Bosnian Muslim women must be raped.
3 -  Bosnian Muslim houses must be destroyed.
4 -  Bosnian Muslim land must be taken.

Now as an exercise compare "Kanun-i-Rayah" to "Kanun-i-serbian chetniks"

Any questions?

No regards,
Ridha.
From: sommar@enea.se (Erland Sommarskog)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: Update: Croatia (nothing new...)
Date: 15 Nov 92 16:45:20 GMT
Organization: Enea Data AB

Victor Wickerhauser (wickerhauser-victor@math.yale.edu) writes:
>Can you imagine what Serbia will be like in a few years, when all
>these Charlie Manson wannabes come back to no jobs?  It looks like
>Serbia can look forward to a future of international shame mixed with
>chaos and psychopathic criminal violence.  Ugh.

If I were you, Victor, I would worry about the same type of
people coming back to Croatia.

-- 
Erland Sommarskog - ENEA Data, Stockholm - sommar@enea.se
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.europe,alt.activism
From: Mailing-Lists@IJS.SI (KRPAN)
Subject: Re: HOW TO REACH SOMEBODY IN B&H -- SPECIAL ANNOUNCEMENT
Keywords: humanitarian connections
Reply-To: Marijan.Miletic@IJS.SI (Marjan Miletic),
	  ABrodnik@WatDragon.UWaterloo.CA (Andrej Brodnik)
Organization: KRPAN (Slovenska svetovna racunalniska mreza)
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 06:34:27 GMT

With this posting we'd like to confirm that the connection is still working.
All your messages are sent further from Ljubljana through radio connections
and BBS services. On the other hand, Mr.Miletic has recently problems to get
messages and confirmations out of Sarajevo. He hopes that this will be
overcome soon as well.

With the best regards,

Andrej
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
From: visser@convex.com (Lance Visser)
Subject: Re: Kanun-i-Rayah
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:56:41 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

	I would like to ask everyone (on all sides of the issues) to please
keep material like "Kanun-i-Rayah" and the responses to it out of soc.history.
	The problem is that however "right" any of you think your side is, 
there are people who also think their side is just as right.  In my opinion
that makes the discussion too political for soc.history and better done
elsewhere.
		


	This is only a request to try and preserve some sort of sanity in
soc.history.  Please do not bother to send flames to me as I have no
magic powers and this is no more than a request.



Newsgroups: soc.culture.yugoslavia,soc.culture.europe