From: ronnie@uts.amdahl.com (Ronnie Townsend)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:01:36 GMT
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Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <TOMA.92Oct12142345@db.TC.Cornell.EDU> toma@db.TC.Cornell.EDU (Rory Toma) writes:
>
>  As opposed to Washington, who has played high school football teams and 
>  no top ten teams.  Yes, they have played 3 teams that are or were in the top
>  25, but so has Miami (Iowa was ranked much like Cal. was...) Victories over
>  #3 and #5/7, as well as #23 (or whatever Iowa was ranked) is much more 
>  impressive than victories over #11 #18, and #23 (Whatever Cal. was ranked when
>  they played Washington).  And, looking at who they both have left, Miami
>  still has 3 more ranked opponents to play (Boston College #20, WVirginia#24,
>  and #14 Syracuse) as opposed to Washington and their 2 more(#22 WSU, and
>  #8 Stanford).  Say they both go undefeated..  What sounds better
>  Miami with it's 6 ranked opponents, at least 2 of which were top 7 teams,
>  or Washington with it's 5 ranked opponents??  And, if we look at only
>  right now, Miami has beaten PSU/FSU which were ranked at the time, and still
>  are, and Iowa who was ranked, but isn't any longer.  They also have to 
>  play Boston COllege this week, another ranked team (though if they get beat,
>  they probably won't be any longer either).  Out of 6 games, that would be
>  6 ranked opponents, two in the top 7.  Washington has played 3 ranked teams,
>  one of which is no longer ranked, and none in the top 10.  
>  Seems to me that Washington is playing the patsies here...
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>
>Miami and Wash play a common opponent, Arizona. If Arizona goes up to
>Washington, and doesn't do as well as they did against Miami, then you
>have your answer. Wash #1. If they do better than they did against Miami,
>then Miami #1. Who has FSU, Penn St and Iowa played? Clemson? Piddly. Miami
>just isn't in the Pac-10, and doesn;t have to face the level of 
>competition that the Pac-10 provides year in and year out.


Bzzzzzt! Thank you for playing but that is the wrong answer! Carol Merril will
have some nice parting gifts for you! This common opponent garbage has gone
way too far now! AZ shows up in Miami, the week before the FSU game, in the 
third week of the season with a 1-1 record and plays the game of its life and 
loses. But bouyed by that confidence building loss they kick the corn-squeezins
out of UCLA and are now threatening to have a good season. They wil NOT sneak 
up on Washington now. Washington, like Miami will probably be playing much 
better ball in week 8 or 9 than in week three. AZ will likely get creamed in 
Seattle. Means nothing about the comparative strengths of the teams.  Iowa 
plays in the Big 10 which features Michigan, a team UW fans are woofing up as 
proof positive of UW's national preeminence if they beat em in the Rose Bowl. 
Why are Big 10 opponents weak sissies when Miami plays them but great 
powerhouses when UW plays them? Same question must be asked of Nebraska. They 
were patsies in last year's Orange Bowl for Miami, but confirmation of godhood
for UW.  One may also notice that getting your ass kicked usually drops you 
in the polls so every team that plays Miami and UW will likely drop in the 
polls the following week. AZ would have jumped to top 15ish if they had beaten
Miami... ditto if they beat UW. 

-- 
Ronnie
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