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From: nulspace@cs.umd.edu (Michael Chang)
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: I went on a shopping spree...
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:29:39 GMT
Organization: U of Maryland, Dept. of Computer Science, Coll. Pk., MD 20742
Supersedes: <59236@mimsy.umd.edu>
Originator: nulspace@amanda.cs.umd.edu

Well, I was a bad boy.  I had purchased only 2 CD's since January, and
just after receiving a well deserved F in signal/system theory, I thought
I'd celebrate by going to Tower Records and purchase a number of CD's that
I had wanted to get.  I'd thought I'd like to share my experience with you.

   Bolt Thrower "Realm of Chaos"
   Exhorder "Slaughter in the Vatican"
   Entombed "Left Hand Path"
   Megadeth "Countdown to Extinction"
   Pestilence "Consuming Impulse"
   Baphomet "The Dead Shall Inherit"

Guess which one Really Stank.  I remember somewhere about hearing that 
Megadeth's new one was supposed to musically simple.  Yes, well it was
certainly that - very simple.  I should have known Megadeth was total
bullshit as soon as I saw thet had the glossy photo close-ups (ready made for 
world-wide distribution to High School Girls) in the little book that came
with Megadeth's last album.  Sigh.  Cool cover artwork though.

I didn't like the Baphomet too much, it wasn't all that exciting.  Too much
groaning and not enough guitar for me, I guess.

I recommend highly the other 4 albums, however.
-- 
Michael Chang 	inet: nulspace@cs.umd.edu    Department of Computer Science
(EE Goofball)   uucp: uunet!mimsy!nulspace   University of Maryland, College Pk
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: aa361@yfn.ysu.edu (Tom Puncekar)
Subject: Re: Danzig
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:20:30 GMT


I personally thought the $14.99 spent on the Dazig III CD was a waste
of money. My advice would be to borrow a copy and listen to it a few times,
and if you like it, go for it. 

...Deadpool...
-- 
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Our rivers, they are dying and smoke kills the sky
Modern man's cities are built on their lies
When cleansing flames burn, noone can hide....from the TRUTH.
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
From: micheal@felix.lib.csulb.edu (Micheal Wojciechowski)
Subject: Re: Thrash - The origins ..
Organization: California State University Long Beach Library
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:26:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.112746.4359@verifone.com> rachim_t1@verifone.com writes:

>What the hell? ! How can any one talk about the origins of thrash bring up any
>bands past 1983.  Thrash was PUNK thrash.  bands played
>3-chords-as-fast-as-you-can to manic vocals. songs never went beyond 2 minutes
>at the most.  

>Take a listen to old Die Kreuzen, Negative Approach, Necros (the old stuff),
>Tar Babies, old Minor Threat, old JFA, MDC, shit I could go on and on ...

>My question is WHEN did thrash lose it's original description?

>If you guys were listening to Iron Maiden and ACDC back then, don't even TALK
>about the ORIGINS of thrash.


I have to agree.  I thought I was the only one wondering what the hell these 
guys were talking about when they were mentioning these Metal bands as 
thrash.  They are far from it.  Give me some good ol' hardcore punk any day, 
and I'll show you thrash.
From: 9135477m@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.thrash
Subject: WARMASTER SPEAKS: Glen Benton for president
Date: 27 Jul 92 02:26:31 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia


Well fellow moshers,

I finally took the plunge and bought LEGION by DEICIDE and let me tell
all the un-initiated out there one thing,
	IT FUCKING KICKS SERIOUS ASS.

I mean it grabs you by the balls and doesn't let go. UNREAL.

This is the first DEICIDE album I've bought. After hearing the arguments
about them I thought either that the were childish fucks trying to get
publicity for shitty albums OR they were fuckin' AWESOME. Well guess
which I think now.

And to all you christians out there who don't want to buy the album cos
it's EVIL ( ooh, I'm scared ) do yourself a favour and ignore the lyrics
and listen to the coolest Death Music this year.

Oh yeah, I got PANTERA'S latest effort and that whips too.

WM
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Newsgroups: alt.skate
From: ylsul@athena.mit.edu (Young Sul)
Subject: Re: MINE! ALL MINE!
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:59:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.020042.13676@cis.ohio-state.edu> akins@flamingo.cis.ohio-state.edu (gregory adkins) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.201329.201@lrc.edu> blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:
>>HAVING NOTICED THAT THIS NEWSGROUP IS VACANT & UNMODERATED & PRIME FOR HOSTILE 
>>TAKEOVER, WE THE COMPUTER LAB BRATS OF LENOIR-RHYNE COLLEGE DO HEREBY CLAIM TO
>>HAVE SOLE DOMINION & OWNERSHIP OF THIS NEWSGROUP. ANYBODY WHO POSTS THEREAFTER
>>MUST SEEK THE PERMISSION OF USERNAME: DORHAM_R, PRESIDENT & HEAD-HONCHO OF THE
>>EMPTY-NEWSGROUP-INVASION COMMITTEE...
>>
>>THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION,
>>
>>				      BLOSSER_CY, VICE MINISTER OF PROPAGANDA
>
>Dude, hit your caps-lock key.

At least they know how to spell...

		-y

Newsgroups: alt.skate
From: akins@flamingo.cis.ohio-state.edu (gregory adkins)
Subject: Re: MINE! ALL MINE!
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:00:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.201329.201@lrc.edu> blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:
>HAVING NOTICED THAT THIS NEWSGROUP IS VACANT & UNMODERATED & PRIME FOR HOSTILE 
>TAKEOVER, WE THE COMPUTER LAB BRATS OF LENOIR-RHYNE COLLEGE DO HEREBY CLAIM TO
>HAVE SOLE DOMINION & OWNERSHIP OF THIS NEWSGROUP. ANYBODY WHO POSTS THEREAFTER
>MUST SEEK THE PERMISSION OF USERNAME: DORHAM_R, PRESIDENT & HEAD-HONCHO OF THE
>EMPTY-NEWSGROUP-INVASION COMMITTEE...
>
>THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION,
>
>				      BLOSSER_CY, VICE MINISTER OF PROPAGANDA

Dude, hit your caps-lock key.
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.skate
Subject: MINE! ALL MINE!
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:13:29 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

HAVING NOTICED THAT THIS NEWSGROUP IS VACANT & UNMODERATED & PRIME FOR HOSTILE 
TAKEOVER, WE THE COMPUTER LAB BRATS OF LENOIR-RHYNE COLLEGE DO HEREBY CLAIM TO
HAVE SOLE DOMINION & OWNERSHIP OF THIS NEWSGROUP. ANYBODY WHO POSTS THEREAFTER
MUST SEEK THE PERMISSION OF USERNAME: DORHAM_R, PRESIDENT & HEAD-HONCHO OF THE
EMPTY-NEWSGROUP-INVASION COMMITTEE...

THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION,

				      BLOSSER_CY, VICE MINISTER OF PROPAGANDA
Newsgroups: alt.skate
From: joshr@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Joshua Rabinowitz-Summer-91)
Subject: Re: MINE! ALL MINE!
Organization: NASA/ARC Information Sciences Division
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 17:47:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.201329.201@lrc.edu> blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:
>HAVING NOTICED THAT THIS NEWSGROUP IS VACANT & UNMODERATED & PRIME FOR HOSTILE 
>TAKEOVER, WE THE COMPUTER LAB BRATS OF LENOIR-RHYNE COLLEGE DO HEREBY CLAIM TO
>HAVE SOLE DOMINION & OWNERSHIP OF THIS NEWSGROUP. ANYBODY WHO POSTS THEREAFTER
>MUST SEEK THE PERMISSION OF USERNAME: DORHAM_R, PRESIDENT & HEAD-HONCHO OF THE
>EMPTY-NEWSGROUP-INVASION COMMITTEE...
>
>THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION,
>
>				      BLOSSER_CY, VICE MINISTER OF PROPAGANDA

Blow it out yer ass.  I'm the supreme ruler here.


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From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!shiva@cactus.org (System Smof)
Newsgroups: alt.cosuard
Subject: Re: Ma Bell
Date: 23 Jul 92 05:17:44 GMT
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

Do you know whether or not Southwestern Bell intends to integrate its ISDN
rate structure with regular data billing? It never hurts to be wary of
possible attempts to put hobby bbs operators through the regulatory meat
grinder.
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Newsgroups: alt.cosuard
From: isc30003@nusunix3.nus.sg (WONG TUCK KWONG)
Subject: this is a test
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 07:57:14 GMT
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-cajun.cts.com!jeffh@cactus.org (Jeff Harrell)
Newsgroups: alt.cosuard
Subject: Re: Ma Bell
Date: 22 Jul 1992 22:49:06 -0500
Organization: ProLine [pro-cajun], Shreveport, Louisiana (318)865-6579
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In <1992Jul15.153245.27114@walter.bellcore.com>
afd@bellcore.com (Alex F. Dietz) writes:

>In article ge38128@pro-cajun.cts.com, wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-cajun.cts.com!jeffh@cactus.org (Jeff Harrell) writes:
> 
>> The bottom line is, you won't need a modem, but you will need to completely
>> rewire your house and install an ISDN board in your PC before you can use
>> the new network.
>
>This is slightly misleading.  ISDN uses the existing copper wire already in
>the network and customer premises (i.e. your home or business).  What changes
>is the equipment attached on the ends of the wire.  Yes, you'll need a new modem
>to handle the higher transmission rates, but you will *not* need to "rewire" your
>house.  ISDN utilizes the physical network already in place - the copper wire, the
>high speed trunks, etc.  What changes is the way the information is packaged and
>transmitted.
>
>-A Dietz
>Bellcore, Morristown


The only experience I've had with ISDN involved completely rewiring the
area with fiber optic lines.  I didn't know that ISDN could also use
existing copper wires.  Thanks for clearing that up, especially since you
would know better than I. :)
 
Jeff

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From: ijd@hplb.hpl.hp.com (Ian J Dickinson)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:49:44 GMT
Subject: Re: "talking twigs/sticks"
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: alt.divination


Joel -
You could try reading some of Kaledon Naddair's books on Celtic (which he
writes with a 'K') Shamanism.  I have "Keltic Folk and Faerie Tales", which
includes a large section on the various symbols in the tales, including
plant and tree lore.  Be warned though, his style is pretty grating at times,
and you have to do a lot of diamond-from-manure-pile sorting.  But then,
that's pretty good training for any aspiring diviner!  Naddair also has a
book called Keltic Tree Lore, but I haven't found a copy yet.

Off the top of my head: another way you could find out how each of the
woods works for you would be to sleep with one piece under your pillow for
a week, note your dreams, and see if any interesting patterns arise. This
could be viewed as a more accessible practice than the version suggested by
Naddair in an article in _Voices from the Circle_, viz: spend a night
sleeping in the tree you want to get to understand [obAdvice - don't forget
to tie yourself to the tree in case you fall asleep and hence out!]

I like your idea, by the way.  It's something I have wondered about doing
myself, but have never found the time.

Happy divining,
Ian.


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From: cranmer@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: New divination systems?
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:51:20 EDT

 Hello,

   Has anyone reading this newsgroup experimented with creating their own
 systems of divination?   I'm currently experimenting with fusions between
 the Tarot and astrology.  I like the idea of using cards (albeit in smaller
 groups than 78!), but the symbolism in astrology -- the planets, signs,
 aspects, etc. -- is appealing as well.

   And I've seen those "Karma Cards" (I think this is what they are called)
 that have the querent choose a planet, house, and sign, but I'm looking to
 create something a little more detailed and substantive (as well as trying
 to bring in the Kaballah).

   On a lighter note, it seems that creating new divination systems is a
 great moneymaker!!!   The vikings would be very suprised to see their
 alphabet being used in this way, I'm sure!  :-)   

						Just curious...

						  Steve Cranmer
From: killip@csc.liv.ac.uk (Mr. L.T. Killip)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: Re: New divination systems?
Date: 26 Jul 92 10:20:00 GMT
Organization: Computer Science, Liverpool University
Nntp-Posting-User: killip

In article <13053.2a6d9208@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu>, cranmer@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>
>  Hello,
>
>    Has anyone reading this newsgroup experimented with creating their own
>  systems of divination?   I'm currently experimenting with fusions between
>  the Tarot and astrology.  I like the idea of using cards (albeit in smaller
>  groups than 78!), but the symbolism in astrology -- the planets, signs,
>  aspects, etc. -- is appealing as well.
>
>    And I've seen those "Karma Cards" (I think this is what they are called)
>  that have the querent choose a planet, house, and sign, but I'm looking to
>  create something a little more detailed and substantive (as well as trying
>  to bring in the Kaballah).
>
I suggest that this person go and read the Book of Thoth and find out what
someone who knew what they were doing did towards fusions of
tarot/astrology/kaballah. There are no new ideas under the sun or any other
heavenly body, but there are people with experience and people with none
;-}.

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From: amadeus@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: Re: "talking twigs/sticks"
Date: 26 Jul 92 20:13:55 GMT
Organization: University of Texas at Austin


Joel Metz writes:
>>[re: trying the system with native trees in the area]
>
>no, i wouldnt, simply because i would rather keep a method in its
> traditional form, rather than change it around to get something i
> like... i will attempt to keep these "talking twigs" as traditional
> as possible, and, failing that, i will make substituitions on an
> intuitive basis, trying to keep the spirit of the original to the
> best of my ability.
>i had thought about doing this along the lines of your suggestion,
> but had decided that something was wrong with the idea of taking
> a european divination method, and attempting to twist it to native
> american beliefs... if i wanted something based on native american
> tradition, then i would research that... but my *personal* heritage
> is european, and i would first learn to practice along the lines
> of my heritage.

I'm a pagan who practices an Irish Celtic tradition that uses sacred
trees.  Obviously we don't have all of the trees that they have in
Europe, so we make substitutions.  They're not just random, though;
they're based upon a real understanding of the quality of the original
European tree and an observation of the indigeonous trees around us
(thus allowing us to find reasonable substitutions).  I don't think
you would be "twisting" your work to native American beliefs by doing
something like this; you would be developing an understanding of your
environment that would parallel that of your ancestors, and that would
be, in my opinion, most fitting and appropriate.

Just my tuppence...

> joel metz 			  ithinki@ucscb.ucsc.edu, mantis@gorn.echo.com
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From: shaman@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (David Melton)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: Re: New divination systems?
Summary: Yes, do you want to buy one?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:59:26 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

I have developed several nifty divination systems.  Here is a brief summary
of my favorite.

Seven Stones- Based on alchemical symbolism.  Air, Fire, Water, Earth, Spirit,
	      Shadow, and Mystery are what the stones represent.  They are
              scattered randomly on any pattern which represents the life of
              the querent.  This pattern can be as complex as the tree of life,
              or the astrological houses; or it can be as simple as a circle.
	      The positions of the stones are interpreted based upon their
              spatial orientation to the symbols on the pattern.  For example,
              in a circle casting, if the Fire stone fell inside the circle
              it would represent something will-based affecting the situation.
              I've found this to be a quick way to analyze possible archetypal
              influences in a situation.

This particular divination system is available with a more complete set of
instructions and a set of pattern fields on which to cast the stones. The set
comes in a leather carrying case and all the stones are Semi-precious gemstones.I usually ask $30 for the sets.  This barely covers the cost of materials, but
I'm willing to negotiate a little.  E-mail me if you're interested.
From: ithinki@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (face iz white! eyes iz tired!)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: Re: "talking twigs/sticks"
Date: 24 Jul 1992 18:07:56 GMT
Organization: the nightmare zone
Distribution: world
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From: jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews)
Subject: Re: "talking twigs/sticks"

>In article <14mt5kINNied@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> ithinki@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (face iz white! eyes iz tired!) writes:

>>	rowan (mountain ash, first, then switched to dogwood when
>>	       i found a reference equating mountain ash with
>>	       dogwood)
>
>     Rowan and mountain ash are the same things (loads of small
>flowers followed by red berries, twice a year); dogwood is the
>tree that produces the five-petaled flowers.

yes, i know... when i said "i found a reference equating...", i meant
 that mountain ash is *also* another, albeit erronous (as common names
 are wont to be), name for dogwood. i chose to use dogwood because
 of the simple lack of true mountain ash/rowan growing in my area.
botany-nazi: dogwoods have unusual flowers. those big white things
 you see are *sepals*, not petals. the flowers are in the central
 lump-thing... thus, not 5-petaled :)

>     It's a fascinating idea.  Would you consider trying it
>with the trees and plants that are native to your area, and
>researching the significance of the trees and plants to the
>native peoples of your area?

no, i wouldnt, simply because i would rather keep a method in its
 traditional form, rather than change it around to get something i
 like... i will attempt to keep these "talking twigs" as traditional
 as possible, and, failing that, i will make substituitions on an
 intuitive basis, trying to keep the spirit of the original to the
 best of my ability.
i had thought about doing this along the lines of your suggestion,
 but had decided that something was wrong with the idea of taking
 a european divination method, and attempting to twist it to native
 american beliefs... if i wanted something based on native american
 tradition, then i would research that... but my *personal* heritage
 is european, and i would first learn to practice along the lines
 of my heritage.
 
>     This makes me think of the "Language of Flowers" that was
>very popular in the 19th century.  I wonder if anyone has made a
>divination system based on that -- with, say, pressed flowers as
>the tokens.  Most of the meanings of the flowers seem to have to
>do with minute gradations of affection, though.

do you have any references you could give me on this?

-joel

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Newsgroups: alt.divination
From: acarr@pell1l12.alleg.edu (Amelia Carr)
Subject: Re:  astrology and Tarot
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:33:50 GMT

I wouldn't advise anybody to begin with the Book of Thoth--Crowley was  
much too involved with augmenting his personal power at the expense of  
others to appeal to me.  He was, however, a member of the group known as  
the Golden Dawn which spent a lot of time putting together just the sort  
of synthesis you're looking for.  I've seen several books on them,  
including their Tarot deck, which are available even in general book  
stores.  Be prepared for some disagreement among them, however.
   I use astrology all the time with Tarot reading:  I find it especially  
useful in associating the court cards with individuals.  The physical  
descriptions attached to most Tarot cards don't work that well, but  
knowing whether someone's chart is earth-fire-water-or air usually helps  
in selecting a suit.  I would be interested to know if others use this  
system.  In particular, authorities disagree about assigning wands and  
swords to air and fire (or vice versa).
From: jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews)
Newsgroups: alt.divination
Subject: Horoscope for alt.divination
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:50:13 GMT
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada


     Someone posted a horoscope for alt.divination a little
while after it was created.  They took the "date of birth" as
the date on the first article that showed up at their site. 
This was not really correct, since it was created a couple of
weeks earlier.

     Since I created it, and then posted the first article at my
site shortly after the directories got created, I think the
"date of birth" could be taken as the date on that first posting.
(I didn't save the newgroup message, but it wasn't sent out very
long before the first message.)

     I finally dug up this first posting, so here is the header
from it.  Anyone want to do a more accurate horoscope?

>Article 1 of alt.divination:
>Newsgroups: alt.divination
>Path: fornax!jamie
>From: jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews)
>Subject: Welcome to alt.divination
>Message-ID: <1992May6.191304.880@cs.sfu.ca>
>Organization: Simon Fraser University
>Date: Wed, 6 May 1992 19:13:04 GMT

     (SFU is in Burnaby, BC -- ie. basically in Vancouver.
Dunno the exact longitude and latitude, but I'm sure you
astrological types can find out.  :-))

--Jamie.                       ,
  jamie@cs.sfu.ca           (-:=
"Cool... clear... Usenet"      `   (not)