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Date:         Sat, 26 Sep 1992 16:40:00 EDT
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From:         MCARTER@BENTLEY.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Freud Bashing

Looks like I really started something here when I asked for some
reference help about Freud.  My intention was not that any of us
get into Freud-bashing.  I believe Freud made some obviously
valuable contributions which created the foundation of psychology.
In one way or another, all models of psychology seem to be spin-offs
from Freud.

I think Mike B. is correct in stating that we need to view Freud and
his position in context with his times.  My main concern is more in
the context of *our time.*  In other words, we can be constructively
critical of _any_ theory when, after investigating its origins we find
it no longer applies to contemporary psychology.

Specifically regarding the issue of adult survivors of child abuse,
it seemed important to understand how and why Freud drew his conclusions,
decide if they would help or hinder a client whose therapist held fast
to that model, or decide that it was one area where Freud was more
swayed by his times than his research findings.  If there are analysts
who hold Freud dogmatically correct in this area, they might minimize
or invalidate a client's experience of this trauma (furthering the
effect of it because they are not believed.)

Mikel <mcarter@bentley.bitnet>
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From:         "Kenneth V. White" <kwhite@WAM.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Deceptions

Mike,

I agree with you comments on MPD generally, but what about in cases of
homicide or rape where the perpetrator claims innocence because he/she
didn't do it, "Frank" or "Willamena" or whatever did it?

I don't envy forensic psychologists -- G** knows I wouldn't want
to find myself in the position of giving advice to the courts
on this one way or the other, with existing data.

Seeking a kindler and gentler Psycgrad,
Kenn in College Park
kwhite@wam.umd.edu

        (just kidding... that would be FAR too boring!)
             :)
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From:         "(Margaret Joppa)" <joppa@PSYCH.PURDUE.EDU>
Subject:      NEUROSCIENCE MEETING, ANAHEIM

Is anyone out there going to the annual meeting of the society for
neuroscience in Anaheim the last week of October?  I will be there Oct. 24
to the 29th, and need a female roomate to share a double room at the
Anaheim Best Western.  The room is $50 a night so half would be $25.  I am
a tolerant and easy going person, but dislike very much large quantities of
hairspray or perfume.  If anyone is interested please respond.
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From:         Chris Cameron <CCAMERON@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject: Re: clinical and experimental psychology

On Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:40:00 PST <GALLOGLY@CWU> said:
>Normally, when someone says something like "Oh I'll bet you're analyzing me
>right now" I just smile and nod.  Especially if I'm not likely to meet them
>again.
>
My favorite response is "Now, why would I do that for FREE?" ;)
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From:         "Gerri Oppedisano (8-863-7225)" <gerri@WATSON.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Multiple Personality Disorder

Perhaps the Politically Correct term should be Multiple Personality Abled
then..

gerri
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From:         Betty Harris <B1H6017@TAMSIGMA.BITNET>
Subject:      APA Funding Bulletin Listserv

FYI
The APA has a listserv which on a monthly basis sends
out information on federal funding.  It is also used
to send out periodic notices regarding legislation
related to funding of psychological research.  Below is
an excerp and the instructions on how to subscribe.
Betty

        AMERICAN PSYCHOLOGICAL ASSOCIATION SCIENCE DIRECTORATE
                           FUNDING BULLETIN
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  Volume 4, No. 8                             August 10, 1992
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       Index of APA Science Directorate Funding Bulletin Files

                      POSTING
  FILENAME FILETYPE   DATE     FILE CONTENTS
  -------- --------   -------- ------------------------------------------------
                               ** NOTICES **
  APASPAN  ACTION     08/10/92 Alert: Student Stipend Tax Exempt Status
  APASPAN  NOTICE     08/10/92 NSF Rescissions Follow-up Information
  CFS      NEWS       08/10/92 Chronic Fatigue Syndrome E-mail Newsletter
  LIBRARY  MASTER     08/10/92 Network Version of Library Master Available
  STENHOLM UPDATE     08/10/92 Stenholm Legislation Action Update

                               ** GENERAL FUNDING ANNOUNCEMENTS **
  JD       CHILDREN   08/10/92 Missing and Exploited Children Research
  MOD      GRANTS     08/10/92 Research on Birth Defects/Behavioral Science
  MONIKA   FOUND      08/10/92 Monika Foundation/Depression Study Prizes
  NICHD    LEARNING   08/10/92 Treatment Effectiveness for LD Children
  NINDS    NIMH       08/10/92 HIV-I Infection & the Nervous System
.....
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*  The APA Science Directorate Funding Bulletin is designed to alert    *
*  you to research and training funding sources for psychology.         *
*  Each file in the index above contains summaries of recently          *
*  published requests for applications (RFAs), requests for             *
*  proposals (RFPs), or similar documents.  The index is updated        *
*  regularly and distributed each time new announcements are added.     *
*  You may subscribe to the Bulletin by issuing a SUBSCRIBE APASD-L     *
*  firstname lastname command to LISTSERV@VTVM2 or by sending a         *
*  message to APASDCF@GWUVM.                                            *
*                                                                       *
*  FOR MORE INFORMATION ABOUT ANY FUNDING ANNOUNCEMENT ABOVE,           *
*  CONTACT THE INDIVIDUAL(S) IDENTIFIED IN THE FILE.  BEFORE SUBMITTING *
*  AN APPLICATION FOR ANY RFA OR RFP LISTED BELOW, BE SURE TO GET IN    *
*  TOUCH WITH THE CONTACT PERSON.                                       *
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Subject:      Querie -- Taxing Stipends

A couple of months ago there was talk of a bill in congress that would
reinstate tax exempt status for graduate student's stipends.  Does anyone out
there in Netland know how this came out (if it came out)?  I asked at our Grad
school office and they didn't know what I was talking about.  Any info would be
appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Don Gallogly
GALLOGLY@CWU.bitnet
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From:         "David M. Fresco" <FRESCO@UNC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Querie -- Taxing Stipends

Don et al.,
In trying to learn more about the stipend legislation, I discovered
surprisingly, that my congressman David Price (D), was a co-author on
the bill.  He sent me a letter making many of same points as Stephanie
from USC's post.  While I've never been much of a political activist,
let me encourage my node-mates at UNC and any other NC grad students
to vote for Mr. Price in November.  From what I've observed of him, he's
got atleast three redeeming qualities 1) he's a democrat; 2) he's pro-
choice; and 3) he supports the stipend bill.
Speaking to you temporarily from a soapbox,
David Fresco
UNC-Chapel Hill
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Subject:      Re: Looking for Attitude Measurement Data

JIMBOB,

Your research on applications of IRT to attitude data sounds interesting.
Could you share some additional details with us?

Thanks,

John M. Ford             BYU Instructional Psychology Program
740 South 50 East        (801) 224-9039
Orem, UT 84058           fordj@yvax.byu.edu
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From:         "Matthew Simpson" <054340@UOTTAWA.BITNET>
Subject:      Politically correct MPD
              6 Oct 1992 10:06:31 EDT from <gerri@WATSON.IBM.COM>

On Tue, 6 Oct 1992 10:06:31 EDT Gerri Oppedisano (8-863-7225) said:
>Perhaps the Politically Correct term should be Multiple Personality Abled
>then..

Or "person who behaves like many different people."

At times I attend regional meetings of the Ontario Society for Clinical
Hypnosis.  A few meetings back, we saw a presentation from our local
area expert on MPD.  He showed us a videotape of one of his hypnotherapy
session with his MPD client.  Under hypnosis, different personalities
emerged.  This is what the expert showed in his presentation.  I saw
something completely different.

It was obvious to me that the idea of "multiple personalities" came
from the therapist.  Yes the client has many different ways of being,
behaving, and experiencing.  However, I watched as the therapist
progress from talking about those different ways of being as "a child-like
way of being" to "the little boy inside of you" to "what is the little
boys name?" to "and who am I talking to now, the little boy?"
This was a deliberate change in the manner to which the therapist
addressed the client.

If a therapist was not oriented toward talking to different
"personalities," she or he might have been attending to different
ways of behaving, feeling, experiencing, being, or perhaps even
different states of mind.  The attention might be focused on times
when the client rapidly moves from one way of behaving to another.
If this latter therapist showed a videotape of a session in which
the person changes ways of behaving several times in the session;
If this tape were shown to a therapist inclined to see different
personalities; If the demonstrator did not highlight the personalities,
the onlooker might say a chance was missed to reveal what was really
there.

Which metaphor do you like?  Do you like disorders?
Or do you like behavior patterns?

Conceptually, I see behavior patterns as much more malleable.
Perhaps describing these patterns as "potentials for experiencing"
would offer a more fluid and changeable client.  I consider
these possibilities because I place my values on utility alone.
It is much more useful for me to change behavior patterns than it
is for me to get rid of disorders.

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From:         GALLOGLY@CWU.BITNET
Subject:      Re: criminal psych?

>      A young lady in my stats lab was asking me where she might find
>a graduate program in "criminal psychology."  After we talked for a
>while, we narrowed it down to "a study of criminal behavior."

I don't have any direct experience with them but I know from my own search for
PhD programs that the U of Neb at Lincoln has several programs that offer
combination PhD/JD degrees.  They are in Forensic Psyc, etc.  And I believe
they require considerable study within the law school.

Hope this helps.

Don Gallogly
GALLOGLY@CWU.bitnet
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From:         "Gerri Oppedisano (8-863-7225)" <gerri@WATSON.IBM.COM>
Subject:      Re: social psychology vs. sociology - more thoughts

>Sorry, but I have to disagree with you.  Not all psychology is about people,
>but all psychology is about behaviour.  No, I was not referring to neuropsych,
>or comparative psych, but to physiological psych, or "behavioural neuroscience"
>I use behaviour to study refractoriness of "reward neurons" in the rat.
>Many, many, many years will pass, before findings from research of this type
>will have any direct application for humans (maybe during Dr.SpockXs time?).
>
>   ) (    Monika Trzcinska    _- o   ) (   054470@ACADVM1.UOTTAWA.CA

..But what is the *purpose* for your research? Is it for eventual
application for humans or is it only to study rats? In psychology
I thought the eventual application of descovered truths were for
humans, or is it ultimately the study of the psyche and reflexes
of any living animal?? I think we've had this discussion before on
psychgrad.. Still not clear on it. Oh well.

gerri
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From:         Tim Tumlin <UFTRT@NERVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Test Message

Our computer has been off line getting its wheels greased or something
and no messages have come through for quite a while.  Just checking the
net before I get back to reading Dan Quayle's war memoirs; I'm up to
the place where he yells crude epithets about Ho Chi Minh while guarding
Notre Dame from the North Vietnamese dive bombers.
Tim
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From:         "(Stephanie Fishkin)" <fishkin@ALUDRA.USC.EDU>
Subject:      MESSAGE FOR TIM TUMLIN
              92 3:22 pm

Sorry for using the net for a personal message, but I can't find Tim's
"address".

Tim:    I have not had any luck locating the shirt you want.   Sorry!  If
someone finds it in the future, I'll let you know.

SF

*******************************CLINTON/GORE '92********************************
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Stephanie Fishkin
fishkin@aludra.usc.edu

"Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change
the world;  indeed, it's the only thing that ever does."  Margaret Mead

"Truth happens to an idea.  It becomes true, is made true by events." W. James
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******************************VOTE IN NOVEMBER*********************************
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From:         CASE ELIZABETH <PSYGRDDEC@ORION.DEPAUL.EDU>
Subject:      comps (again)

I just wanted to let you all know that I finished my last comp a few hours
ago (followed by lunch out and several drinks *grin*).  I want to thank
you all for putting up with me and for your support during all of this.
The worst it over.  I'll find out if I passed in 1-2 weeks.

I think I did alright, except perhaps for my physio test.  But we shall
see...

Elizabeth in Chicgo
psygrddec@orion.depaul.edu
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From:         "(Julie Marie Williams)" <jmw1@ST-ANDREWS.AC.UK>
Subject: Re: Radical Behaviorism

CONGRATULATIONS, ELIZABETH!!
Three cheers from us all!!
How did they go?

Julie
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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 16:27:42 PDT
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From:         maxwell_gwynn@CSUFRESNO.EDU
Subject:      Re: Politically correct MPD
              at Oct 6, 92 11:40 am

Concerning M. Simpson's discussion of MPD:
     It has been argued that multiple personality disorder may indeed
be invoked by the therapist.  The local "authority" mentioned in the
earlier message seemed to be giving the patient overt cues as to
anticipated responding.  For an experimental study of the etiology of
reports of multiple personalities, readers would probably enjoy the
following article:  Spanos, N.P., Weekes, J.R., & Bertrand, L.D.
(1985).  Multiple personality: A social psychological perspective.
Journal of Abnormal Psychology, 9, 362-376.  Dr. Spanos is a professor
in the Department of Psychology at  Carleton University in Ottawa,
Ontario.
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From:         BUTLERD@FS1.PSY.EMORY.EDU
Subject:      funding

If you want to get frivolous funding just sell your research as
having crucial military significance. Perception is important when
looking down the barrel of a gun or a bombsight!!

Seriously, we as psychologist are going to get financially pinched
tighter than the rest. It is harder (rightly so?) to justify, in many
cases, our research to not only the cash-strapped taxpayer but also
to animal rights activists as well. But hey, at least we don't need
40 billion dollars to build a supercollider (but then if we did we
might get funded, congresspeople love these high price pork-barrel
kind of stuff).

Dev at Emory,
Atlanta, Ga. --- Home of the "about to clinch the NL West for the
second year in a row" Atlanta Braves!
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Don,
There were apparently two bills that supposedly have made an effect.  (I am judg
   ing strictly by the info. that I saw on this network.)  One bill would make
graduate stipends tax exempt and return all taxes paid on stipends since 1986
(not exactly sure of this date).  The other bill was not as clearly explained,
although it was supposed to have some impact on stipend taxing.  We waged a
campaign in our department, and many of our students and even some of the
faculty contacted our congressional reps.  Our most recent word is that the
first bill died in committeee, but that the second was approved and is now law.
We have not been able to find out what the impact of that bill will be or
exactly when it will take effect I would really like to hear.  I think it was
called the higher education reform act or something of the like.  I no longer
have the bill #'s from either of the bills.  If anyone knows what they are it
would make it easier to follow up and find out what the outcome was.
Jennifer
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:41:36 -0400
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From:         GORDONSE@UNCG.BITNET
Subject:      dissertation orals

I would like to let the rest of the list know that one of our
fellow members defended her dissertation this morning AND
gave her dissertation colloquium this afternoon!


Congratulations to Karen Yescavage!!!!!!


Sharon
gordonse@uncg.bitnet
gordonse@iris.uncg.edu
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Date: 30 Sep 92 15:51:28 GMT
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Here, at UNCG, we have a clinical psychology professor who
does research on psychopaths.  His email address is
kossond@uncb.bitnet   OR kossond@iris.uncg.edu

His name is Dave Kosson


Sharon Gordon
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From:         C.M.Walker@CEN.EX.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: Just curious...
              92 12:52 am

	I sometimes receive one copy of random messages but believe it
is probably someone just punishing me for subscribing to psycgrad!

Cathy in Exeter, UK
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From:         Betty Harris <B1H6017@TAMVENUS.BITNET>
Subject:      e-mail and teaching

Denise,
I've used e-mail in two basic contexts.
The first was in a quant class.
I think this mode of communication has several advantages
First I didn't hafta waste time waiting around to catch him
or trying to get a hold of him on the phone.  This means that
both of us could answer at our own convenience.  Fewer
interruptions during the day seems like a good thing to me.
Second, asking questions in this manner allows for one to have
a written response that can be read several times.  Then if
you need clarification on any point, you can clip out that section
(>like we do here) and ask for clarification.  I think this leads
to more thoughtful discussions, simply because you're not just
saying the first thing that pops off the top of your head.  For
me at least, I put more thought into something that I write.

The second context has been with teaching people to use the
computer or to use SAS or SPSS.  I actually gave out
assignments via e-mail.  Another useful aspect was that they
could copy certain files from my account to use for these
assignments.  When teaching anything to do with a computer
it is very important to know exactly what happens when
students can't get something to work.  This allowed me
to teach them how to troubleshoot for syntax and logic
errors, rather than to just stand there and fix their
problem.  Again the time delay from me not being there
encourages them to think and try things rather than
to just rely on me to fix things for them.  It also
saves time and resources that would of been spent copying
and collating assignments.  I still send out some help files
that I developed for this class to ppl who are learning
to use the computer.
Hope this helps,
Betty
b1h6017@tamvenus
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