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From: suhail@cs.man.ac.uk (Suhail Rahim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Archive DAT Tape
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:41:02 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester

I have bought a computer which has a DAT backup tape (Archive ST 2000) with
it. The computer is a Tandon 486e/50 (EISA) with an Adaptec 1540B SCSI
controller. Unfortunately there is no documentation with the computer. 

When I load a tape into the DAT drive, it rewinds it to the beginning and
then starts reading it. After a couple of seconds it stops and the the red
LED on the front (which is constantly  on during tape access) starts to
flash. Software such as SCSICNTL and syplus report that that there is a
media load/eject error.

Can someone shed any light on the matter. Is it anything to do with the
jumpers or connectors on the back? or is it just tape formatting?

Any help would be much appreciated.


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From: sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen M. Lacy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware
Subject: Re: IBM PS/2 4MB Simms - are they standard
Date: 11 Sep 92 03:54:55 GMT
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.ibm.ps2.hardware: 10-Sep-92 Re: IBM PS/2
4MB Simms - ar.. by Geoffrey Welsh@zswamp.UU 
> steveh@zentronics.ca (Steve Haller) writes:
>  
> Hi, Steve!
>  
> > I have had given to me some IBM 4MB Simm modules (Blue box and all)
> > and I would like to find out if these are industry standard 4 MB simms or
> > IBM proprietary??.
>  
>    As far as I know, the PS/2 uses industry-standard SIMMs, and 4 MB
SIMMs are 
> increasingly common.  I am not aware os any incompatible SIMM formats.
>  
>    Of course, there are always SIPPs and ZIPs, but they are visibly
distinct, 
> so you wouldn't get them confused.

THIS IS WRONG!  PS/2 SIMM's are not industry standard in any way.  They
are 36-pin simms, not 9, or whatever the standard ones are.  On some
PS/2 systems, you can install PS/2 SIMM's one at a time, you don't have
to install in banks of four, and in other systems, you have to install
in pairs.  

Steve


"Forgive me please for hurting so.  Don't go away heartbroken, no."
-Peter Murphy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.arch
From: glew@pdx007.intel.com (Andy Glew)
Subject: Re: Does a 487sx shut down the 486sx??
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
	<GLEW.92Sep1091842@pdx007.intel.com> <1992Sep4.172131.27778@tandon.com>
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 03:52:11 GMT

	In article <GLEW.92Sep1091842@pdx007.intel.com> glew@pdx007.intel.com (Andy Glew) writes:
	>Test vectors are cheap. But tester time isn't.  Testers are often the
	>manufacturing bottleneck. 

	Andy, since you are in a good position to find out... could
	you post how long it takes to test the 486DX and how long it
	takes for the 486SX?  Then could you provide an approximate
	number of chips which go through one particular tester each
	day (on the average).  I know I am curious about this, and I
	am sure others are, too.

You're testing me, right?

Seriously, I very much doubt that I could ever post such information.
The microarchitecture of the chip that I am working on is moderately
interesting and relatively secret --- but details about process, time
per stage, and yields are EXTREMELY secret. Process details would
allow a competitor to estimate cost of manufacture, and hence
anticipate our pricing strategies.  I think that you will observe that
all papers on such manufacturing details have graphs expressed in
relative numbers, not absolute values.


	I truely cannot believe that the 486sx PGA (which probably
	still has the numeric) would not be tested thoroughly to
	ensure that all of the silicon is working (even though it
	won't be used) since there is a slight chance a damaged
	numerics area might cause contamination to the rest of the
	chip if (say) something overheats.

I am not 100% certain, but I am reasonably sure that the original
i486sx was *not* a CPU that passed integer tests but failed FP tests.

The present i486sx, of course, doesn't need to pass FP tests because
it has no FP on chip. 

There would be far too much risk involved in chips that failed any
part of their functionality tests.  Imagine that FP tests failed
because of an intermittent short in the FP side - a short that would
eventually close, even with integer only use...


--

Andy Glew, glew@ichips.intel.com
Intel Corp., M/S JF1-19, 5200 NE Elam Young Pkwy, 
Hillsboro, Oregon 97124-6497

This is a private posting; it does not indicate opinions or positions
of Intel Corp.

Intel Inside (tm)
Xref: sparky comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:23906 comp.arch:9338
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Thursday, 10 Sep 1992 13:44:04 EDT
From: <REE700A@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.arch
Subject: Disabling an FPU (was Re: Does a 487sx shut down the 486sx??
 <1992Aug27.183804.8605@tandon.com> <GLEW.92Sep9195211@pdx007.intel.com>
 <1992Sep10.134414.1607@crd.ge.com>

   IMHO - this is not a big deal, testing is often done before the wafers
are even sawn, using probe stations.  Devices that only fail FPU can have
selected interconnects laser-vaporized and will become SX's.  Those that
pass everything will become DX's and those that fail everything will become
keychains!
  I am not certain that Intel uses wafer probe, but I would be amazed if
they wasted the effort of packaging and bonding bad die!  Once the faulty
subsection was disconnected (electrically) who cares what goes on within it?
It would not be connected to any power or signal traces, in effect it is
just dead space.

  Jeff Andle
From: jregehr@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (John David Regehr)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: what is a good accelerated video card for < $200
Date: 9 Sep 1992 15:36:52 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

Due to hardware problems, I need to purchase a new video board.  I considered
a no frills Trident card with 1 meg (~$60, mail order), but I would like
something that speeds up windows and other graphics.  I would also like the
card to do 1024x768x256 at at least 70hz, non-interlaced.  I have about
$200 of "discretionary income" that I can spend on this card.  If you have
(or wish you had, but know about) a video card that meets these requirements
and that you would recommend, I would like to hear from you.  Thanks.

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jregehr@matt.ksu.ksu.edu
Kansas State University
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: snowden@cray.com (Jim Snowden)
Subject: Using two video cards at once (EGA and VGA)
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 5 Sep 92 08:57:11 CDT

Hi,

I was wondering if someone knows if it is possible to have two video
cards fitted in an IBM PC and to either use them both at the same time (same
output) or to selectively (by software) choose one or the other.  In
particular, I'd like to be able to have a (S)VGA and an EGA/CGA card together.

The reason I ask is that I'd like to try and use an overhead projector
panel with my PC, but the panel only accepts EGA or CGA from a nine pin 
output.

Or do you think a VGA card should be able to detect what sort of device
is attached and so output in CGA/EGA/VGA as appropriate?

Thanks for the help,

Jim Snowden
snowden@hemlock.cray.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.periphs
From: adelle@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (adelle.s.Petrocco)
Subject: WANTED: Config. Switch Setup - Modem
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:01:30 GMT

I'm using an INMAC Clear Signal 1200 Modem (External).
It has 8 dip switches.  Does anyone know what they stand for?
I understand that it is NOT the same as the Hayes Smartmodem.

Also, does anyone know how to set the modem to reflect TRUE
carrier status?  It appears to be set to on as a default.

Thanks!

Adelle
adelle@cbnewsh.att.com
From: catfood@wariat.org (Mark W. Schumann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Dell SIMM != standard SIMM?
Date: 12 Sep 92 05:24:47 GMT
Organization: Akademia Pana Kleksa, Publi Access UNI* Site

Hey, looky here; I sent world distribution and my answer comes
from the East Side of Cleveland!  Anyway, dab6@po.CWRU.Edu
(Douglas A. Bell) writes:
>In a previous article, catfood@wariat.org (Mark W. Schumann) says:
>>I have a Dell 325P with 2M RAM as shipped.  I want to add 2M now.
>>The "generic" SIMMs I got from a mail-order house don't seem to fit
>>the motherboard slots for SIMMs, nor do they look like the factory-
>>installed SIMMs.
>>
>>Sketch of Dell-installed SIMM:
>>[omitted]
>72 pin simm
>
>>Sketch of mail-order generic SIMM:
>>[omitted]
>36 pin simm

I guess that's my answer.  Thanks!

Now are these the same 72-pin SIMMs as are used in those awful
PS-half machines?  And does that mean you can mix 'n match between
Dell and IBM?  Sounds uncivilized to me....

The happy ending to the story, though, is that my 36-pin SIMMs
will be reused by my employer in a Gateway clone.  The 72-pin
SIMM from Dell is actually about ten bucks _cheaper_ than its
36-pin counterpart.

-- 
Mark W. Schumann/3111 Mapledale Avenue/Cleveland, Ohio 44109-2447 USA
Preferred: mark@whizbang.wariat.org | Alternative: catfood@wariat.org
"Aren't you glad you didn't marry someone dumber than you?" --my wife
From: ahummel@ems.cdc.com (H. Austin Hummel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: PC Connection, was: Re: Mail Order Hate Letter
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:42:37 GMT
Reply-To: you@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <11300024@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com>, darrylo@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Darryl Okahata) writes:
|> In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware, jim@n5ial.chi.il.us writes:
|> 
|> > QUESTION:  why, if this company is so great (and from the previous posts,
|> > I have no doubt that they are), have I never heard of them before?  do
|> > they advertise much?  or do they just advertise in trade rags I don't
|> > read?
|> 
|>      You obviously don't read PC Magazine.  ;-)

or Pc World, or Byte or PC Connection or ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: djr48312@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (X X)
Subject: SEAGATE ST251 INFO needed
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:57:29 GMT

Need Sector, Tracs, Head count for the Seagate ST 251 drive.  Would really like
the seagate BBS phone number.  But could use the info.  Also there is a jumper
in the rear of the drive.  The drive is to be used as the first drive with
an IDE 2HD/2FD card to power the floppies.  A WD card powers the HD.  Need
to know which position the jumper should be, and the above info to put in
CMOS.


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From: rick@sjsumcs.sjsu.edu (Richard M. Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Good UNIX/X setup?
Date: 15 Sep 92 23:45:42 GMT
Organization: San Jose State University, Math & CS

In article <194pmrINNkq2@agate.berkeley.edu> utidjian@remarque.berkeley.edu (David M.V. Utidjian) writes:
>From: utidjian@remarque.berkeley.edu (David M.V. Utidjian)
>Subject: Good UNIX/X setup?
>Date: 15 Sep 92 13:50:19 GMT
>I am sure this is a FAQ, but I couldn't find it.
>
>I am looking to run UNIX and X on an IBM 486/50mhz clone.
>
>I need to know what specific recommendations I should follow
>for hardware and software.
>
>-	How big a SCSI drive I should have (200+ meg?)
>-	What kind of video card I need to run X for a
>	NEC 5FG monitor. (Is there a better monitor?)
>-	Where to look for unix and X software.
>-	What kind of mouse,(2 or 3 button?)
>-	How much RAM is required.
>-	Do I need a wierd BIOS?
>
>Any and all help is appreciated, the more specific the better.
>Reply to the above newsgroups or email.
>
>Thanks for your time and attention...
>
>David Utidjian
>utidjian@remarque.berkeley.edu
>dmu5391@hertz.njit.edu

Best advice - choose the flavor of UNIX and X you are going to run
and look at what is required and what is supported.  Each vendor has
a list of requirements, and a *SHORT* list of what will work.
For example, most of the Intel-based UNIX variants will work with the
Adaptec 154x SCSI and maybe one or two others.  You will find your choices
are much more limited than with DOS/Windows, etc.
From: astsloke@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Harddisk parameters: What is WPCom?
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:53:58 GMT
Distribution: world,inet
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore

In article <BuGMIv.738@cs.vu.nl>, xerox@cs.vu.nl (J. A. Durieux) writes:
> I have two harddisks:
> 
> (1)   81 MB  980,10,17       Caviar
> (2)  203 MB 1024,15,27       Seagate
> 
> Besides these numbers, my Setup program asks me to give a Parking zone
> (I give 980 and 1024) and a "WPCom".  What does that mean, and what number
> should I put there?

WPcomp refers to Write Precompensation.  It is only necessary on some older
drives.  The following is an excerpt from the documentation of the the
SGAFMT1.ZIP package distributed by Seagate Technologies Inc. I downloaded this
from their BBS.

"PRECOMPENSATION
     Applied to write data by the controller in order to partially
 alleviate bit shift which causes adjacent 1's written on magnetic
 media physically to move apart. When adjacent 1's are sensed by the
 controller, precompensation is used to write them closer together on
 the disc, thus fighting the repelling effect caused by the recording.
 Precompensation is only required on some oxide media drives."

I believe that you can enter a 0 or -1 in this entry in your CMOS setup.  The
landing zone you specify is irrelevant as drives now have auto parking which is
activated on powering down the drive.  The landing zone is "fixed" by design.


Regards.

T.S. Loke
Nanyang Technological University
Singapore
* Standard Disclaimers Apply
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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.os.msdos.programmer
Subject: *** ODD HD PROBLEM ***
Keywords: IDE PARTITION
Date: 14 Sep 92 13:28:35 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

Here's an odd one:

I have an 80 Meg Connor (sez type 27) drive.  I forget the model number, 
but it's an IDE 1" height drive.

I've determined that the geometry works as 833 x 6 x 33.  At least I get 
no errors when I use these settings.

The problem comes when I run FDISK.  I make a partition, exit FDISK, and
try to FORMAT the drive.  "Invalid drive specification".  Go back in with
FDISK, enter "4" (display partition info), and there is no partition.

Can do it as many times as I like, but the partition does not stay.  No error
messages from FDISK.  I tried using Disk Manager to partition it also.  
Basically the same thing happened.  I used DM to Verify the surface (not
initialize), and it came out 100% ok.  No errors.

Anyone know what's going on?  Also, the PC is a 286/20 with AMI BIOS dated 
about 1989.  

Thanks, 
PTR...
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From: renebi@idt.unit.no (Olaf Rene Birkeland)
Subject: Re: 1x9 vs. 1x3 memory
Reply-To: renebi@idt.unit.no
Organization: The Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 14:26:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.104243@cs.utwente.nl>, waardenb@cs.utwente.nl (Jerry van Waardenberg) writes:
|> 
|> Sorry, but you're wrong! It does make a difference. Older type computers only
|> refresh the first column of a memory chip. This works fine if all chips are 1
|> Mbit (as the 9-chip 1 MB SIMMs). However, in 4 MB SIMMs, that have their memory
|> lined up in 4 columns of 1 Mbit each, only the first column will be refreshed.
|> The other columns will lose their data. So the newer 3-chip SIMMs can only be
|> used in newer types of computers!

Sorry, YOU are wrong. Memory refreshs are done on a ROW-basis. The
clue is to access all row adresses within a limited amount of time.
The four outputs of the 1Mx4 is *NOT* four columns, but outputs from
four identical DRAM-matrixes. As long as the number of address lines
on the chips are the same (0.5*LOG2(address range) = 10), the refresh
is done properly. As most systems also uses the CAS-Before-RAS (CBR)
refresh method this is also irrelevant. With CBR an internal row
address counter in the DRAM is used, demanding only a certain refresh
frequency. (Typically one refresh cycle every 0.016 ms, or 64 kHz)

-Olaf Rene

P.S. I DO NOT guarantee that this is correct, but I DO design with
these things right now!
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Olaf Rene Birkeland                 e-mail: renebi@idt.unit.no
The Norwegian Institute of Technology, University of Trondheim
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From: sjp@werple.apana.org.au (Steven Pemberton)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: (SUN-) RGB-Monitor at VGA Card ?
Date: 6 Sep 92 04:46:52 GMT
Organization: werple public-access UNIX, Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.apana.org.au
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

gdragner@geppetto.encore.com (George Dragner) writes:
: tko.vtt.fi (Michael Hasemann) writes:
: 
: >has anybody experience connecting a RGB+combined SYNC-Monitor
: >(SUN-Monitor) to a VGA Card ?

Please, if anyone knows how to wire a 15 pin VGA to such a monitor, could
you post/email the details?

Thanks,

-- 
             Steven Pemberton        \o/ 
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          sjp@werple.pub.uu.oz.au    / \
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: Re: Upgrading AWARD BIOS. Possible ?
Date: 12 Sep 92 22:39:09 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Sep12.180604.2023@genes.icgeb.trieste.it> oberto@genes.icgeb.trieste.it (Jacques Oberto) writes:
>Need help! 
>
>My 2 year old 386 25Mhz fails to setup its CMOS to recognize
>a 212 Mb IDE hard-disk from Western Digital. The BIOS is :
>  
>    386 Modular BIOS V3.02 from AWARD
>
>Questions:
>1) Is is possible to upgrade the BIOS with a newer type, which ?

Perhaps. It would have to be written specifically for the hardware
architecture of your motherboard.

>2) What would be the cost of the operation ?

Expect to pay $60-$100 depending on source.

>3) How do I contact the AWARD people ?

That is irrelevant.

BIOS authors don't deal directly with end users.

The first place to ask is your dealer or motherboard manufacturer.
Failing that, get a copy of PC Magazine and check the classifieds at
the back for BIOS upgrade specialty houses. If there's a "best match"
for your hardware they can probably find it. Most will take the chips
back if they plain don't work in your machine (providing you haven't
damaged them in the process).


>
>Thanks, 
>
>Jacques Oberto  <oberto@genes.icgeb.trieste.it>
>


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jhsegal
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
Subject: ULA 6C001E-6E
From: jhsegal@wiscon.weizmann.ac.il (Livy)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 17:38:09 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computation Center

Hello

  I have an uncle in Romania (yes,they have computers there :) ),who asked me
  for " A FERRANTI Integral Circuit,with the  ULA 6C001E-6E inscription on
  it (I guess it is the type...)." This circuit is for a SINCLAIR ZX SPECTRUM
  Personal Computer(did u ever hear about this computer? I didn't! ).
  I need to know several things: Can I buy it somewhere? How much it costs?
  WHERE I can buy it?Is there anything instead?
  Thank you very much for your help
  Livy

  P.S.:  ANY OTHER DETAILS ABOUT THIS CIRCUIT OR SIMILARS WILL BE WELCOME!!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: catfood@wariat.org (Mark W. Schumann)
Subject: Dell SIMM != standard SIMM?
Organization: Akademia Pana Kleksa, Publi Access UNI* Site
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:11:52 GMT


Hi, all.

I have a Dell 325P with 2M RAM as shipped.  I want to add 2M now.

The "generic" SIMMs I got from a mail-order house don't seem to fit
the motherboard slots for SIMMs, nor do they look like the factory-
installed SIMMs.

Sketch of Dell-installed SIMM:

+-------------------------------------+
| XXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXXX      |
| XXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXX  XXXXXXXXXX      |
|                                     |
|       XXXXX      XXXXX              |
-|      XXXXX      XXXXX             |-
 |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||

Sketch of mail-order generic SIMM:

+------------------------------+
|  XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX  |
|  XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX  |
|  XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX  |
|  XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX XX  |
+||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||+

These sizes are inflated by about 20% if you are reading this
on your standard PC screen.

I thought SIMMs are SIMMs.  What is the difference between the
two types?  What are they called so I can be sure to order the
right ones?

You can respond by email or news.  Thanks to all in advance.

-- 
Mark W. Schumann/3111 Mapledale Avenue/Cleveland, Ohio 44109-2447 USA
Preferred: mark@whizbang.wariat.org | Alternative: catfood@wariat.org
"Aren't you glad you didn't marry someone dumber than you?" --my wife
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: mary@wam.umd.edu (Mary Louise Cassidy)
Subject: Using Apple ImageWriter with PC
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:48:27 GMT

I have an old Apple ImageWriter that I used with my //c back in the days...
I would like to hook it up to my new 386/40 now though until I can afford a 
laser.  How???  It's not a parallel connection...but a serial cable fits.
But I can't get anything to print.  Do I have to wire a special cable
or what??  I want to use it with everything, but mostly Win 3.1 and WP 5.1

Thanks alot!!  Please EMAIL all replies...and soon..I must print!!

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From: swarde@unf6.unf.edu (Mailer Daemon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Program Needed
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:02:21 GMT
Organization: University of North Florida, Jacksonville

I'm trying to find a PC-compatible program that will pick winners of NFL
games.  I'd like the program to use previous years' stats and previous games'
stats to make the predictions.  Does anyone know of any such program and 
where I might be able to find it?  If so, please send me email to the address
below, as I don't often get a chance to read this newsgroup.  Thanks in
advance!


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