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From: mcohen@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: First ""Dracula"" Goof - Minor Spoiler
Organization: Clark University
Date: 18 NOV 92 02:51:30 GMT

In a previous article, gharris@jade.tufts.edu (George W. Harris) wrote:
>In article <Bxs684.1q7@rahul.net> kent@rahul.net (Kent Talarico) writes:
>>I noticed a goof near the end of the credits. Instead of the usual
>>"No animals were harmed during the filming" line, it said
>>"No animal was harmed" :)
> 
>	That isn't a goof.  That is proper English.
> 
>>Kent Talarico <kent@rahul.net>
>--
  I especially liked the line below this..."All violence was simulated".


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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: The Creation of Mickey Mouse
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:25:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.123736.1@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu> bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole) writes:
>In article <Bxv7D7.Dvt@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu 
>(Sean Alan Squier) writes:
>
>> Does anyone know where I can get a comprehensive history of the
>> creation of Mickey Mouse?  I don't want to buy any books, but a friend
>> of mine is teaching a third grade class about Mickey Mouse during
>> 'Disney week' and needs some interesting facts and stories.  Please
>> respond to the address below. 
>
>Ask GMS "Mark" (atts).  Besides having the distinction of *almost* being in
>the film _Hero_, he also has fascinating insight into the life of the
>real man that the character of Mickey Mouse was based upon.
>
>Mark?  Care to enlighten us again?
>
>Greg Bole                                   "For blood is the life!"
>bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu          Gary Oldman in _Bram Stoker's Dracula_


My pleasure.  Anything for a legend like "The Mickster".


In article <1992Jul02.182630.7193@microsoft.com>, frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney) writes:
> In article <1992Jul2.061103.8215@engage.pko.dec.com> boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The Man from Another Place) writes:
> [deletion]
> >Holmes, Tarzan, and Mickey Mouse. The interesting thing about this list
> >is that each represents some sort of archetype.
> 
> Hey, what do you mean? Mickey Mouse? Fictional character?

Well, the Mickey Mouse we see, perhaps.  But that Mickey Mouse is,
in fact, based on the very real person of Michael Jacob Mouskin,
a poor sharecropper whose light-hearted antics won the hearts and
raised the spirits of so many of his friends, acquaintances and
fellow farmers that it wasn't long before a young struggling
genetics theorist and draftsman with an eye for slapstick found
the small, dark, big-eared harlequin.  They joined forces, and
that theorist/draftsman, Walter Edward Disney, armed with pen and
pastry board, penned a life-like rendition of Mouskin on his
first boatride.  So effective was Disney at capturing Mouskin's
almost cartoon-like mannerisms and tomfoolery, that the public
took this new addition to American cinema to be a cartoon, and
a very lovable one at that.  This first hand-drawn, real-life
short film became Disney and Mouskin's first success, "Steamboat
Willy".  The large, rather rotund gentleman, whose real-life name
was William Catson, and played a villain in that first film,
was honored by the film's title when he suffered a stroke after
the making of the film and died shortly before its first 
distribution.

Mouskin, when asked shortly before his death in 1974, if the
success of his animated alter-ego, Mickey Mouse, and his own
relative anonymity bothered him, said, in typical Mouskin
style, "People think I'm a mouse.  But they love that mouse.
That's enough for me.  That's all, folks."

Michael "Mickey" Mouskin - 1874-1974

Hope this helps.

GM(a-t-t-s)S
From: 01mbmccabe@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Anthony Hopkins
Date: 17 Nov 92 06:10:28 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

> He's playing the doctor that takes care of the elephantman in David Lynch's 
> 'Elephantman'. He played in the recent 'Back to Howard's End'. 

David Lynch's "Elephantman".....I don't believe it....that ought to be GREAT!!

				-Matt
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From: nix@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.postmodern,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Peter Greenaway
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:39:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bxvquv.71v.1
	<1992Nov16.132526.9913@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
Originator: nix@COBOL.FOX.CS.CMU.EDU

echristo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu sez:

>Prospero's Books is his latest and his worst.

I thought Prospero's Books was stunning - almost perfect, except
for the awful lip-synching.  ("Cook...", on the other hand, *was*
perfect.)

>He's indulging too much.

Prospero's Books is the dream of a dirty old man.  Indulgence
is what it's all about.

Part of the appeal of Greenaway's work for me is how overpowering
it is.

Nothing exceeds like excess!

	Nick

   "Artists cannot be hampered by the restriction of taste.
    We [Last Exit] are way beyond that."
				- Sonny Sharrock
-- 
 A UNIX workstation will execute over one billion instructions for
 itself, before executing even one instruction for the user.
		- Karsh & Haeberli, "Futurist Programming Notes"
From: margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dracula
Summary: Now I understand!
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:52:55 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <BD.92Nov18144002@fluent.UUCP>, bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:
> margaret@cs.arizona.edu (Margaret Newman) writes:
> 
> >I have a question on vampires not having a reflection in mirrors.

(stuff deleted, written by me)

> 
> Vampires are actually made of liquid metal.
> 
> This metal transmits a field which cuases both them and their clothes
> to not reflect in mirrors.
> 
> It's this same field which lets them (as Terminators), travel through
> time in seeming violation of T1 when Reece says that only organic
> material can move through.
> 
> This liquid metal aspect of their nature also explains the
> Vampire's morphing abilities.
> 
> None of this was explained adequately in Cappolla's Dracula.
> -- 
>    Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
>                          bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
>              I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
>                               DoD # 0698



Now I understand!  Liquid metal -I never would have figured it out for
myself.  Thank you ever so much for enlightening me.  Let's see, how
will I work this into my vampire novel?....

margaret

"Blood is thicker than water, and it tastes better, too"

		-I'm sure some vampire said that, if not, I'll put it
		 in MY book.
From: garretso@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Leon T. Garretson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: GRIFTERS: Question about the ending
Date: 19 Nov 1992 15:07:43 GMT
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston


	The conclusion of this has a long shot from the roof of a building
	of a street corner at night after Anjelica Houston has murdered(?)
	her son (John Cusack). Suddenly a lone male figure runs across the
	intersection. I first saw this at a $ cinema with poor screening
	facilities. Checked it out last night on TV. No help there. 
	My question: Is that the Cusack character running across the street? 
	This would mean he had pulled the ultimate scam and would be rid of 
	his mother for good. This makes sense to me but others think I'm crazy.
	Comments??

-- 
 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 + Self-denial is merely the indulgence          garretso@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu +
 + of a propensity to forego.                    Leon T. Garretson            +
 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Happy birthday, Jodie!!!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:06:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.145940.156700@rrz.uni-koeln.de> hgd@spinfo.Uni-Koeln.DE (Sebastian Hagedorn) writes:
>On Thursday, November 19, Jodie Foster is going to celebrate her 30th
>birthday. (I don't know how long these postings take to reach the
>outskirts of the USENET, so her birthday may already have passed, when you read
>this). 
>Let's wish her all the best for her future, and many more Oscars to come.
>Maybe she'll even break Katharine Hepburn's record (4 AA's). 
>
>So, happy birthday, Jodie!!!
>
Jodie sends her thanks.

GM(a-t-t-s)S
From: dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: MOVIES ABOUT BLIND PEOPLE
Date: 10 Nov 92 00:07:43 GMT
Reply-To: dlee@oasys.dt.navy.mil (David Lee)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In rec.arts.movies, v115p8d6@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (she listens like her head's on fire..) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.143239.4963@pony.Ingres.COM>, walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walk
>er) writes...
>With all this talk about "Jennifer 8", I seemed to remember a similar film
.>about a blind women who may have "witnessed" a murder. This film was made
.>in the 70's (??) I can't remember the star or title, but perhaps someone
.>can refresh my memory?

>There was a mystery movie about a blind woman made in the 70's called
>Wait Until Dark with Audrey Hepburn. A very good movie.

I agree that this is an EXCELLENT movie.. One of the best "who done
it" types.. BUT, Audrey Hepburn does not witness a murder in the movie..
She is manipulated by several criminals in their attempts tp recover
a"lost" shipment of drugs that was smuggled into the country and accidently
passed to her husband.
.
.
.
.
...
From: uril@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Movies about women as cats
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:34:10 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1992Nov16.033214.1192@Virginia.EDU>, maw5s@Virginia.EDU ("Melissa Wiley") writes:
> Hello, I'm interested in viewing all movies where women are
> portrayed as cats, or as feline like.  Got any suggests?  I've
> seen both versions of "Cat People" and the more recent "Batman
> Returns."  Any leads are welcome!   --Melissa

In the movie, CAT ON A HOT TIN ROOF, the main character of Maggie 
(Elizibeth Taylor) is refered to as a cat. It is a beautifully set up 
motiff.  Actually, it is set up a lot better in the play, but the movie is 
pretty good as well.
-- 

Uri J. Lessing |  Earlham College |  Richmond, Indiana
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From: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Subject: Re: THe Bounty: was Re: Anthony Hopkins
Reply-To: schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu (Robert Schmunk)
Organization: Dept. of Space Physics, Rice University, Houston TX
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 08:34:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.230503.6585@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson) writes:
|> Nitpick time.  One of the good things about "The Bounty" is that it is *not*
|> based on the book "Mutiny on the Bounty" (a very biased view of the Bounty
|> incident).

Of course not. It's based on another book entirely, a non-fiction volume
entitled (if I remember correctly) CAPTAIN BLIGH AND MR. CHRISTIAN.
Nevertheless, THE BOUNTY is the best version of the story I've seen on film
yet.

-- 
Robert B. Schmunk <schmunk@spacsun.rice.edu>
SPAC, Rice Univ, Box 1892, Houston, TX 77251 USA
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Loyalty was a great thing, but no lieutenants should be forced to choose
between their leader and a circus with elephants.
                                    --Neil Gaiman & Terry Pratchett, GOOD OMENS
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Subject: New Muppet Movie
From: Young Indy <EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:22:26 EST
Organization: Penn State University

   A friend of mine was telling me that a new Muppet Movie is coming out for
Christmas. He also said it was going to be sorta like a "Scrooge" story. I was
just wondering if anyone has heard anything pertaining to this movie as far
as what Muppets are to play which parts, and (the grand question of 'em all)
is Kermit going to be in the film, since Jim Henson performed Kermie from the
beginning. Any and all information will be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

                                     -Ed

   ====================================================================
             Edwin 'Big Ed' Weiland - EMW107@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
            Architectural Engineering; Penn State University
"Between the worlds of men and make-believe I can be found."-D. Fogelberg
   ====================================================================
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From: maxc1104@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Avoid normal situations.)
Subject: Re: Christmas Movies
Summary: And All Through the House 
Keywords: not a creature was stirring, not even a zombie 
Organization: The Special Corps 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 00:29:39 GMT

  One also might try _Tales from the Crypt_... the Freddie Francis film 
or the collection of episodes from the cable TV series. Both have adaptations
of the old EC comics yarn "And All Through the House".

							Love & kisses,

						The Stainless Steel Moviegoer

						Have a merry Xmas. 
						And a happy Xyear.

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From: rabanes@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Greg Rabanes)
Subject: Michael Dudkioff and other stuff
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 09:18:26 GMT


Hi,

 Does anyone know what role Miachel Dudikoff played in the movie
 "Making Love"? The movie is listed under his name in that really
 cool database that I found on this newsgroup, but I don't remember
 seeing him in that movie. Also, has anyone thought of putting that
 database into hypercard? I have a stack that parses saved newgroup
 articles, and I think I could easily adapt it to parse the database
 text file that I found on here. Oh yeah, and one more thing :)
 Is the database copyrighted or anything? If this sounds incoherent
 it's cause I wrote this a few minutes after getting up (had a dream
 about how easy it would be to link up the actor database with the
 movie hypercard stack that I am working on :)

Bye,
Greg

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From: rainer@winx06.informatik.uni-wuerzburg.de (Rainer Frohnhoefer)
Subject: Re: DAVID LYNCH\DUNE
Organization: University of Wuerzburg, Germany
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 10:44:41 GMT

Matthew Melmon (mattm@apple.com) wrote:
: In article <996.39.uupcb@hal9000.UUCP>, george.bruner@hal9000.UUCP (George
: Bruner) wrote:
: > but I think his [Lynch] style of filmmaking
: > is not suited to sci-fi. I would have liked to have seen some sort of TV
: > mini-series -- a string of two hour segments -- done by a Spielberg or
: 
: Neither Lucas nor Speilberg would have been appropriate, though
: more so than David Lynch.  
: 
: Ridley Scott - *he* would have been appropriate.           

Hmmmm! I do not think -Dune- is suited for turning it into a movie at all. 
Anyway, there has already been such an attempt a few years before the Lynch
movie:

      Remember Alexander Jodorowsky?  (Yes, he did the 'John Difool' comics
				       with french comic artist Moebius)

 The design would have been done by Moebius (impressive works, check it!),
the Harkonnen world had its outfit created by H.R. Giger (got it!- he did 
ALIEN thereafter) and, regarding the soundtrack, they hired - PINK FLOYD!

But, so Jodorowsky writes, the whole project "was too french". They won some
battles but lost the war. Their version of Dune never got filmed. Though, the
script had been filed to many film companys. 
When Star Wars came out, they found the designs were very much like theirs on
Dune.


 Would have been a promising approach, hm?


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From: mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon)
Subject: Re: Not Enough Sucking on Keanu
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 19:00:07 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies

In article <uJsBuB2w164w@fatcity.cts.com>, kfree@fatcity.cts.com (Kenneth
Freeman) wrote:
  
> Could 'Dracula' be FFC's homage to a certain Monty Python film...? :)

Just a flesh wound!  Just a flesh wound!  I'm not dead yet, I'm
not!  Come here, and I'll bite your kneecaps!
From: gbradley@uks240.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Most SHOCKING movie recently
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:05:12 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks240.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)

In article <john.722021022@spssig>, john@spss.com (John Przyborowski) writes:
|>
|>
|>"Henry, Portrait of a Serial Killer".
|>
|>I rest my case.  One of the most didturbing films I've ever seen.
|>
|>
|>John
|>SPSS
         
    One of the most boring, disappointing films I've ever seen! Of
course that's coming from a gore fan ("More gore! More gore!"). Otis was
the only half interesting character. Now if I could only get a copy of
the circular saw surgery video someone mentioned under this topic, I
could add it to my autopsy collection.

+---------------------+------------------------------------------+
| Gary Bradley        |   "You receive a love letter from me and |
| ORACLE Corp, UK     |                  you're f*cked forever!" |
| Edinburgh, SCOTLAND |        - Frank Booth ("Blue Velvet")     |
+---------------------+------------------------------------------+
| "God damn the censor man"                                      |
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From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: REVIEW: BRAM STOKER'S DRACULA (SPOILERS)
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:22:09 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1992Nov18.092216.14304@hellgate.utah.edu> ych@cs.utah.edu  
(Yuan Hsieh) writes:
> In article <1edgioINNco2@transfer.stratus.com>  
jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
> >> In article <1eb8i4INNfqh@transfer.stratus.com>  
> >jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com writes:
> >> >I disagree. Dracula IS evil in this film, though he also has
> >> >a good side. He brings home a baby to feed to the female  
vampires
> >> >at the castle.  
> >> 
> >> I disagree, where's evil in the food chain?
> >> 
> >If you don't think killing babies is evil, I guess we define
> >the word differently.  
> 
> For me, it depends on who's doing the killing.
> 
> Is it evil for you to eat a cow, or an egg ?

It seems that the big difference is in self-awareness and 
consciousness.  If someday humans run into an alien species which
is clearly intelligent and aware but primitive, it would be evil to 
kill them for food.  Not caring about the lives or feelings of
another sentient being is certainly evil.

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
From: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: the big blue/ le grand bleu
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:48:28 GMT
Reply-To: poy@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Poy)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

for all of those interested in seeing this movie in the original french
release (la versione longue) an d if you happen to live in the washington
dc area, there is a french video store devoted to french films in Bethesda.

i saw the version everyone seems to be talking about and the ending
is quite good.  also people arenet talking about the dream sequence
that the main character has before rushing off at the end - this is
also quite good. the name of the store is La Version Francaise.
and its on St Elmo's Ave off of old georgetown road.

its worth the three bucks.

--

stephen
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: "Bram Stoker's Dracula" hits big, first weekend
Originator: reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 16:42:06 GMT

"Bram Stoker's Dracula" grossed $30.5 million last weekend, the third
biggest opening weekend of the year and the biggest non-summer opening
weekend for any film ever.  This figure is actually a slight disappointment
for Columbia, as they had estimated a $32 million gross, based on Friday
and Saturday numbers, but counting all the dollars coming in is likely to
make them forget the slight shortfall in the final figure.

This is a much bigger opening than the industry was predicting, by at
least 50%.  Which should get a lot of people thinking - why did this
film open so big?  Clearly not because it was a Coppola movie.  His films
don't open that big.  Probably not on the stars, though Anthony Hopkins'
presence may have helped.  It looks like a combination of the right
subject at the right time, a strong ad campaign, and practically no
competition.  The next biggest grosser for the weekend, "Under Seige", has 
been out for several weeks, as have the films just below it.

Based on the opinions people have been expressing here and elsewhere,
I suspect that "Bram Stoker's Dracula" is going to have a tremendous
dropoff this coming weekend.  It clearly isn't precisely what people
were hoping for, and "Malcolm X" can be expected to draw away some of
the crowds.  But it's not unreasonable to expect this film to end up
grossing $60 - $100 million in the US alone, making it a huge hit.
That probably means that the Branagh "Frankenstein" will get made,
and we might well see remakes of other 30's horror classics, such as
"The Mummy".  It is also very good news for those hoping to see
"Interview With the Vampire" made into a film.  According to the LA
Times, there was renewed interest in that property before "Bram Stoker's
Dracula" was released, and the instant success of that film makes the
Rice novel look like a very hot property.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: pmarlowe@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (philip marlowe)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,alt.postmodern,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: Peter Greenaway
Keywords: macabre, michael nyman, dutch baroque
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 13:22:50 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: like communism, but nicer.

lorim@sco.COM (escape goat) writes:

> 
> 
> Does anyone out there know of any interviews, articles, 
> books, etc. on filmmaker Peter Greenaway ("The Cook,
> The Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover", "Prospero's Books")?  
> 
> I'm doing some research on him and would welcome any
> information or references you can email me; I will be 
> glad to send you my results.
> 
> I'm also interested in knowing if any of you have seen
> his latest film and what you thought of it.
> 
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> lori.
> lorim@sco.com
> 
> 

 
 I saw "Prospero's Books", and liked it...not as much as "Cook...", 
though; I think that Greenaway's equal parts cerebral and visceral, and 
when the two are in balance, his movies fly. "Prospero" was a little too 
cerebral and bloodless, but was still a very good movie.
 
marlowe

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