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Subject: Re: Name Flames
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:31:48 +0000







In message <FISCHER.92Oct3041812@steiner.iesd.auc.dk> fischer@iesd.auc.dk
(Lars Peter Fischer)

>>>>> "James" == J.M.Ross  (Ross@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk)

>James> I'll spell it out slowly for you ...
>James> There is one team called "Rangers FC"

>I'll spell it out slowly for you...
>If all your life you've heard (in the media and elsewhere) Glasgow
>Rangers, if you've just watched a TV transmission where they said
>"Glasgow" 15+ times, you'll quite naturally say "Glasgow Rangers"
>yourself. I might try my best to get it right and please everyone, but
>I know I'll slip from time to time.

OK, apologies to anyone (especially Chris Schletter) who has felt offended/flame
d
at my posts on the correct name of Rangers FC aka Glasgow Rangers. I understand
that you're used to hearing the latter and so naturally use it yourself.

In defence, you have misinterpreted the point of my posts on the subject.
Whilst I would be delighted if everyone were to always use correct names, for
Rangers and anyone else, this is of course unrealistic. The thread was more
about why the use of the term Glasgow Rangers should be unneccessary, and
of more palatable ways of qualifying the name Rangers.

If you'd spent all your life hearing the so-called "national" media referring
to other teams (i.e. Queen's Park Rangers) as Rangers and Rangers as
Glasgow Rangers, you'd be annoyed too.

>Look, if I tell someone here "Rangers will play Leeds in the next EC
>round", they'll have no idea what I mean. They *will* understand
>"Glasgow Rangers" (note, btw, that I use "Leeds", not "Leeds United").

A moot point which I am well aware of. If I said here (i.e. in Manchester) 
that Rangers will play United in the next EC round people would say, "I though
United were knocked out by Moscow Spartak", in Leeds they would know what
I meant, whilst in London they would wonder how Queen's Park Rangers qualified
for Europe!

>>James> Similarly for Celtic.

>Yeah, and while you're at, why don't you try to educate the public on
>the true meaning of the word "hacker"?

No thanks, there's at least half a dozen meanings I can think of off-hand!

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To paraphrase a song often heard at Ibrox

"There's not a team called the Glasgow Rangers"