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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:27:00 EDT
              <GIS-L@UBVM.BITNET>
From:         "(dt11)" <Derek_THOMPSON@UMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: GIS in the schools

The National Geographic Soiety works with schools via the Alliances, some of
which have very enthousiastic teachers using computers to teach geography.
Some of them are fortunate to go to an IBM sponsored workshop in Atlanta.
These people then serve as mentors to other teachers. I wonder if NCGIA has
worked with any of these teachers.

Incidentally, myself, and others, here in Geography at UMCP have been
informally working with local school-teachers now for about 5 years. In
November of this year we have a special Geographic Information Day as part
of Geography Awareness Week.

I shall appreciate NCGIA making me better informed as to what the NCGIA
outreach is to secondary school teachers of geography.

Derek Thompson
Department of Geography
University of Maryland
College Park, Maryland 20742

dt11@umail.umd.edu
301-405-4063
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Date:         Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:46:31 -0700
              <GIS-L@UBVM.BITNET>
From:         "(Jerry Davis)" <jerry@GISLAB.SFSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Confused about digital scales

Ian S Worthington writes:
>
>When an electronic atlas quotes a scale of, say 1:50,000, what does this
>mean?  1:50,000 on paper I can cope with, but a 'bit' on my computer can
>be any length I plot it to be!  Presumably its some measure of resolution,
>but how do I interpret it?
>

Yes, you can plot a digital map at any scale, but its level of generalization
and accuracy are unchanged, and will always be related to the scale of
original digitization.  An important principle of cartography is that you
should never increase the scale of a map.  Traditionally this has referred to
optical (projective) means of scale change, but the same principle applies to
digital cartography and GIS.

Decreasing scale is allowed, but here you may end up with other problems,
including an excessive number of vertices which may cause problems with output
devices.

Interpreting the scale of the original digitizing as a measure of accuracy or
resolution is of course imperfect, since other factors may play a part --
resolution of the digitizer hardware, experience of the personnel, and any
prescribed accuracy goal of the digitizing team based upon the assumed future
use of the digital map -- but it does provide a standard measure that should
be provided with any digital product.



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| Jerry Davis  	       	       	       	       	       	       	|
| San Francisco State University, Geography / GIS Center        |
| Internet:  jerry@gislab.sfsu.edu      Phone:  (415) 338-2983	|
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:27:16 +1000
              <GIS-L@UBVM.BITNET>
From:         jhr@GDWB.OZ.AU
Subject:      Re: Confused about digital scales

>
> In <9210102146.AA18985@gislab.sfsu.edu> Jerry Davis writes:
> >
> >Yes, you can plot a digital map at any scale, but its level of generalization
> >and accuracy are unchanged, and will always be related to the scale of
> >original digitization.  An important principle of cartography is that you
> >should never increase the scale of a map.  Traditionally this has referred to
> >optical (projective) means of scale change, but the same principle applies to
> >digital cartography and GIS.
>
> Jerry --
>
> Thanks for your most rapid response, and, yes, I agree with the points you
> make.
> But what I fail to understand is the sense in which a scale can be quoted for
> a database. What does 1:50,000 *mean* until its given some physical reality?
>
> Am I being very naive here, and missing something obvious?  Anybody?
> Ian S Worthington
> ALCS Development
>

The 1:50 000 scale quoted also refers to the accuracy of the captured data.
There are minimum accuracies required (and what is reasonable) for data at
such and such a scale.

As Gerry mentions above, it would be unwise to use the data at a scale larger
than at the quoted scale.

Julien
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:20:01 EDT
From: Nancy L. Leist <NL9797A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: Weekend Program in MSIS



The American University

Washington, DC

Weekend Master's Program in Information Systems



Master of Science Weekend Program in Information Systems

The American University's College of Arts and Sciences now offers
its Master of Science in Information Systems in a new weekend
format that presents an exciting option for working adults.
Through this program professionals will further develop their
technical and analytical skills and gain a better understanding of
the analysis and design of information systems.

The degree is completed in 24 months.  Classes meet every third
weekend, Friday afternoon and Saturday.  The university accepts
applicants from diverse educational backgrounds and varied career
experiences.  An undergraduate degree information systems or
computer science is not required.

Meet the faculty who will explain the program and answer questions.
For dates, times and locations call the University Programs
Advisement Center at (202) 885-2500, the weekend program
administrator at (202) 885-3153, or reply to e-mail address
NL9797A@american.edu.
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems,comp.lang.idl-pvwave,sci.physics,sci.eng
From: beddow@staff.tc.umn.edu ()
Subject: Final Announcement: IEEE Vis 92
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:09:03 GMT



Final Announcement
IEEE Visualization '92 Conference

Boston Park Plaza Hotel
19-23 October 1992

    Scientific Visualization is an important research frontier shared by
a variety of computational science & engineering fields.  Visualization
work is both interdisciplinary and a field of its own right.  This
conference focuses on interdisciplinary methods and supports
collaboration among the developers and users of visualization
methods across science, engineering, and commerce.

The conference includes the following sessions:

Keynote Address: "High Performance Computing and
Communications"

Keynote Panel: "Interactions Between Science and Visualization"

Tutorials:
    Volume Visualization
    Virtual Environment
    Visual Perception for Visualization and Image Processing
    Color Theory and Models
    Topology, Vector Fields, and Flows
    Automating the Design of Effective Graphics
    Visualization of Multidimensional and Multivariate Data

Workshops

Panels:
    Managing Large Scientific Data Bases
    Grand Challenge Problems in Visualization Software
    Improving visualization:  Perceptual Foundations
    Real Virtual Environments Applications - Now
    Visualization in the Neurosciences
    Object-Oriented Dataflow Visualization Systems

Paper Sessions:
    Volume Visualization
    Flow Visualization
    Surface Visualization
    Visualization Systems
    Data Structures
    Visual Programming
    Visualization Software Systems
    Visualization Techniques and Methods
    Terrain Visualization

Case Studies Sessions on Physics, Life Sciences, the Environment, and
Fluid Dynamics

Special Sessions:
    Research Problems in Visualization
    How to Lie and Confuse With Visualization

Capstone Address:  "Parallel Processing of Form, color, Motion, and
Depth:  Anatomy, Physiology, Art, and Illusion"

For more information, call the VIS92 phone, (510) 423-9368
or
Haim Levkowitz, (508) 934-3654, haim@cs.ulowell.edu

For publicity information please contact
Jeff Beddow
beddow@staff.tc.umn.edu
From: IMAGING.CLUB@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Imaging Club")
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
Subject: Networld show in Dallas runs October 13, 14 and 15
Date: 7 Oct 92 23:24:42 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

The Networld 92 exhibition in Dallas is taking place on October
13 (10:00-5:00), 14 (10:00-5:00) and 15 (10:00-4:00) at
the Dallas Convention Center.

Michael.Willett@OFFICE.Wang.com
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: gmadden@guitar.oit.unc.edu (Greg Madden)
Subject: Novell Source Wanted
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 18:58:08 GMT

Hello-
  Is anyone out there archiving the newsgroup comp.sys.novell into a WAIS
source?  If so, I would appreciate it if you could email me the relevant
information regarding this source.

  On a broader note, is there a server maintaining a "master list" of WAIS
sources?  If so, where is it?  If not, why not?

  Thanks for any information.  Sorry if these are FAQs.

Greg Madden
greg_madden@unc.edu; Microcomputer User Service; OIT; UNC-CH
From: trier@slc6.ins.cwru.edu (Stephen C. Trier)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Re: Novell Source Wanted
Date: 12 Oct 1992 19:18:48 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc6.ins.cwru.edu

A quick check of the directory of servers does not show any sources with
archived comp.sys.novell.  There is, however, a source that has the last 10
days of all comp.sys groups.

The answer to your second question is implied above.  Yes, there is a
global directory to all WAIS sources.  It is called the "directory of
servers", and it is a WAIS source that should have come with your WAIS
client software.  It is on quake.think.com, port 210, with database
name "directory-of-servers".

There are also several mirrors of the directory-of-servers database.
In the WAIS way of doing things, the way to find them is to search for
"directory of servers" in the directory-of-servers source!

-- 
Stephen Trier                                     
Network Services Engineering, IRIS/INS/Telecom    "Dessine-moi un mutton"
Case Western Reserve University                        - Le Prince
trier@ins.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: engelke@maximillion.mcc.com (Ned Engelke)
Subject: WAIS Server Access Question
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: MCC Corporate Computing
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 22:29:00 GMT

Hello there, I hope that this is not a question that has been covered
in a FAQ somewhere but here goes...

I have recently begun to familiarize myself with the WAIS client software
in preparation for a project involving the use of a WAIS server.  I was
able to access the directory of servers thoughtfully provided by the
people at think.com and found "pointers" to several interesting servers.
I saved those server "pointers" into my Sources folder.  However, when
I tried to use that source in a question the client software could not
access the server.  I noticed that the unaccessable servers had a 
alphabetic "name" in the Mac TCP... menu option.  The servers that I
was able to access were addressed using the numeric IP addresses.  I
don't know if this is something caused by the MCC network.  I hope that
this is not too much of a common early problem.  

Oh, I was also wondering if any of the UNIX god's out there reading 
this might remember (know) the UNIX command to go out over the net
to get the numeric IP addresses using the names.  I thought that it
was rlookup but that didn't work...

Thanks in advance!

Ned Engelke
(512) 338-3330
engelke@maximillion.mcc.com
MCC International Liasion Office


Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: ron@rivm.nl (Ron Roozendaal)
Subject: Re: Any Way To Specify Word Proximity?
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.wais
Reply-To: ron@rivm.nl
Organization: RIVM
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:07:49 GMT

In article <1bind7INN8gs@nigel.msen.com> emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
writes:
>there is a small-ish semi-coordinated effort to put together some faqs.
>
>the Z39.50/1992 protocol includes support for Boolean queries and for
>proximity searching.  Adding support to WAIS would involve modifying
>the server to parse a specially formatted user string as a command, 
>hacking the indexer to index phrases, or updating WAIS to the full 1992 spec.
>

There is a way of trying out some hacks, by Querying the USGS-wais databases.
They have implemented boolean search, phrase searching an dkeyword searching
(amongst others). Still not in the official release, but impressive!

Regards,

Ron

____________
  Ron Roozendaal (ron@rivm.nl)
  Senior Consultant
  National Institute on Public Health and Environmental Protection
  Informatics Service Centre
  Postbox 1, 3720 BA Bilthoven, the Netherlands
  Tel. ++31 30 742790, Fax. ++31 30 282 316

Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern)
Subject: What terminal type is an xterm window?
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:12:26 GMT

Quick question:  how do I use wais (I'm telnetting to quake.think.com)
and keep the terminal output from being garbled?  Saying 'xterm' when
it asks for terminal type produces garbled output.  I'm just in an
80 char/40 line xterm window on a Sun.

-- 
/\     It's not denial.  I'm just very selective about the reality I accept.
  \_][ <--NCAR Ilana Stern dod#009 r.b. cliff swallow ilana@ncar.ucar.edu    
      \______________________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: dekock@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (Nick de Kock)
Subject: WAIS FAQ?
Organization: Electrical Engineering, University of the Witwatersrand
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:42:26 GMT

Doe anyone know where I can get it? Is there one? Or can someone tell
me more about WAIS?

-- 
Nick de Kock, High Voltage Group            
Electrical Engineering, Wits University                 
Johannesburg, South Africa - dekock@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za


Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: msen.events,comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: WAIS Clearinghouse / EDUCOM '92 Conference / 31 Oct 1992 / Wash DC
Date: 7 Oct 1992 22:00:11 -0400
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: nigel.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

[ Article crossposted from k12.library ]
[ Author was Nancy.Petersen@p11.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org ]
[ Posted on Wed, 07 Oct 92 13:22:45 PST ]

EDUCOM conference, Saturday, October 31, 10:00-11:00:
"WAIS and the WAIS Clearinghouse"
Moderator: George Brett, Ctr for Communications, Univ. of North
Carolina.  Speakers: Jim Fulton, Univ. of NC; Jane Smith, WAIS
Specialist, WAIS Clearinghouse

"Wide Area Information System (WAIS) has shown explosive world-wide
growth.  Learn about the development of WAIS protocol, servers, and
clients; future trends; and the new WAIS Clearinghouse.  The
Clearinghouse will collect, classify and distribute information and
materials about WAIS, and promote development of the WAIS system to
serve the research and education communities of the Internet more
effectively."




--  
uucp: uunet!m2xenix!puddle!23.11!Nancy.Petersen
Internet: Nancy.Petersen@p11.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org
From: rvc@ariel.unimelb.edu.au (Rodney Van Cooten)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: PICT documents
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:48:56 GMT
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.wais
Organization: University of Melbourne

I have some Macintosh PICT documents which I would like to incorporate into
a WAIS database. What is the best way to transfer them to a Unix server?

I have tried  binary FTP, and CAP but when I access the documents with
WAIStation it unexpectedly quits. Do I have to massage these documents in
some way?
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: srb@aretha.jax.org (Susan Dewey)
Subject: Re: WAIS FAQ?
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.wais
Organization: The Jackson Laboratory
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 17:16:31 GMT

In article <dekock.718962146@shannon>, dekock@shannon.ee.wits.ac.za (Nick
de Kock) wrote:
> 
> Doe anyone know where I can get it? Is there one? Or can someone tell
> me more about WAIS?
> 


Me too. I have been reading this list for a while, but am still unclear
about WAIS. I would love a FAQ.

Susan
srb@aretha.jax.org
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: davidm@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (David Morgenstern)
Subject: Re: Any Way To Specify Word Proximity?
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:52:25 GMT

In article <Bw4GKL.9vG@sti.com> westes@sti.com (Will Estes) writes:
>Sorry for the basic question, but I can't find a FAQ for WAIS anywhere.

I would really like to find a basic set of answers to data
retrieval information access with gopher, WAIS, and WWW -- how each
was developed, how they operate, differences etc... I don't want to
wa(i(ste anyones time but...

daviD

-- 
 David Morgenstern, BMUG CheerLeader davidm@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu
    "Miracles do occur - but they rarely provide food." 
         --  Talmud: Shabbat, 53b
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: max@ccrl.nj.nec.com (Maximilian Ott)
Subject: How can I grab a specific file without query?
Organization: C&C Research Labs, NEC USA, Princeton, N.J.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 01:11:41 GMT

This might sound strange but I want to use wais to grab a file whose
name I know in advance (on the weather server the file name doesn't
change but its contents). 

Using the unix incarnation what do I have to put in a shell script to
grab file X from server Y?

Thanks,

max
-- 
Max Ott                 max@ccrl.nj.nec.com         phone: (609)951-2469
NEC C&C Research        Princeton, NJ, 08540        fax:   (609)951-2499
From: dsr@bnr.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Patches wanted
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:46:00 GMT
Reply-To: dsr@bnr.co.uk ()
Organization: BNR Europe Limited, London Road, Harlow, Essex, GB

Is there a server somewhere which has all the patches for WAIS on suns
and macs?


   Dave Riches
   Email:  David.S.Riches@bnr.co.uk
   Smail:  BNR Europe Ltd, London Road,
           Harlow, Essex. CM17 9NA.  England
   Phone:  +44 (0)279-402496
   Fax:    +44 (0)279-451434
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,alt.wais
From: paulf@manor.demon.co.uk (Paul Fawcett)
Subject: PCWAIS SLIP driver ?
Distribution: world
Organization: UDI
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 22:26:15 +0000





Is anyone running PCWAIS with a SLIP packet driver. I am having 
problems with my setup and would appreciate comparing notes.




e-mail prefered.


Many thanks.


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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Need PC client
From: richard@technology.com (Richard Murphy)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:18:18 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas

This is probably a FAQ, but I just started looking and need
this pretty fast. Is there an FTPable PC client for WAIS
that works something like the MAC WAIStation? It can be DOS or
Windows based. Please e-mail me directly. Thanks.
Richard

Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: westes@sti.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Any Way To Specify Word Proximity?
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 17:29:09 GMT

Is there any way to specify word proximity in a search?  For example, if
I index misc.forsale.computers and want to search on Word For Windows, I
obviously want to specify that Word For Windows should be treated as a
single string, and I don't want any implicit 'and' condition between
each word.  Is there a way to specify a whole string for a search,
regular expression, etc.?

Sorry for the basic question, but I can't find a FAQ for WAIS anywhere.

-- 
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Re: Any Way To Specify Word Proximity?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 03:09:06 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

there is a small-ish semi-coordinated effort to put together some faqs.

the Z39.50/1992 protocol includes support for Boolean queries and for
proximity searching.  Adding support to WAIS would involve modifying
the server to parse a specially formatted user string as a command, 
hacking the indexer to index phrases, or updating WAIS to the full 1992 spec.

If you try a search for WordForWindows (all one word) you may be pleasantly
surprised or horrified by the results.  Try also (e.g.) "annarbor" in the
uumap.src file, very differnet results from "ann arbor".

other full text searching engines do have support for the sorts of queries
you seem to be asking for, e.g. Open Text Systems's _PAT_ will search for
phrases of arbitrary length, and things like Fulcrum's Ful/Text have
thesuari and stemming and such.  However, as far as I have been able to
glean from the (meagre) literature, it's not at all clear what a "right"
scoring algorithm would be for a phrase search when both of the individual
words are in the documents you want.

Will Estes (westes@sti.com) wrote:
: Is there any way to specify word proximity in a search?  For example, if
: I index misc.forsale.computers and want to search on Word For Windows, I
: obviously want to specify that Word For Windows should be treated as a
: single string, and I don't want any implicit 'and' condition between
: each word.  Is there a way to specify a whole string for a search,
: regular expression, etc.?
: 

--Ed
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,soc.libraries.talk
From: wald@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (robert.k.waldstein)
Subject: Re: News from RLG // Z39.50 Server for Internet Use
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:48:33 GMT
Followup-To: comp.infosystems.wais


 This seems like a good time to announce my server. The server at
research.att.com is a Z39.50-1992+ server, I believe ISO SR compatible
as well. It is NOT WAIS compatible. Being Z39.50-1992 is does booleans and
proximity, and all the other Z39.50 required things.

  THe databases of interest I think are:
netlib: this is the math and statistical software library (public domain
i believe) maintained by ATT-BL research people. For more info send the
word "help" to   netlib@research.att.com - netlib is actually primarily
mail served presently.

cic: description i was given:
This database is a listing of over 400,000 AT&T product
documentation offerings from AT&T's Customer Information
Center. This database offers a catalog of thousands of
product bulletins, sales manuals, user guides, installation
and service manuals, books, brochures, domestic and
international telephone directories, catalogs and much more.

russian archives: I put this up just so i could play with 
delivering GIF images. Presently the images do not deliver,
but the English part of the archives is fully searchable.

----------
Please don't peck at it alot with WAIS clients, it won't get anywhere!!
As far as i know there are NO Z39.50-1992 clients in the public domain
yet - but i know they are coming.
   Bob Waldstein  wald@mhuxd.att.com
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,alt.wais
From: westes@sti.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Problems With WAIS Over SLIP?
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:01:13 GMT

Does anyone know of a problem using WAIS over SLIP?  I have a user who
is reporting to me that he consistently gets a return code of 4 from
get_document() when retrieving a document over SLIP.  Is there a
workaround?  
 
-- 
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
From: tolman%asylum.cs.utah.edu@cs.utah.edu (Kenneth Tolman)
Subject: Seeking work on computers/information
Date: 11 Oct 92 14:40:16 MDT
Organization: University of Utah, CompSci Dept

  Hi,

  I am doing research on the relationship between computers and information
theory.  Specifically, I am looking for work done on information loss
during computation, and on the creation of information in computation.
Any work at all related to these topics would be greatly appreciated.
I have discovered most of the work by Chaitin, Landauer, Bennett, Fredkin,
Toffoli and of course the original works of Shannon and Kolmogrov.  If you
also are a researcher in this field, feel free to talk with me via e-mail.

Thank you for any references or suggestions!