From: jad@hopper.ACS.Virginia.EDU (John DiNardo)
Subject: Part 5, U.S. Government Practices Germ Warfare on U.S. Population
Followup-To: alt.conspiracy
Keywords:  U.S. Government Practices Germ Warfare on U.S. Population
Organization: UVA. FREE Public Access UNIX! 
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 17:12:52 GMT

        I made the following transcript from a tape recording 
        of a broadcast by Pacifica Radio Network station
               WBAI-FM (99.5)
               505 Eighth Ave., 19th Fl.
               New York, NY 10018       (212) 279-0707

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                        (continuation)
GARY NULL:
Then there was further petitioning of the Federal Government, 
saying: "We want to close these loopholes. If you're going to spend
millions of dollars of U.S. funds on an experiment, dump them in a
Third World country, placing the Public in jeopardy, we should 
first make sure that our Government oversees the safety and health
of these experiments."

We said, at the time, that genetically-engineered organisms could
create a potential hazard to public health. Well, people who have
been following this debate over the years know that the scientific
community and the bio-technology industry and the chemical companies
have consistently said that there is no possibility, EVER, of anyone
getting harmed. Well, there was a follow-up. In fact, I talked with
the Minister of Health of Argentina. And guess what! They confirmed
that up to seventeen people in Argentina -- farm workers -- had 
been infected with the genetically-engineered rabies virus. They
were exposed to this virus, and because of the lack of safety
protocols in conducting this experiment, they were infected. 

So now we have the first recorded example in the World of people
being infected by the release into the environment of a genetically-
altered microbe. Now, I don't believe that. I believe that we have 
a lot more of these infections that we were never told about, 
including the HIV virus.  And still, our Government refuses to take 
the responsibility, and still refuses to place the appropriate 
protocols to insure safety in health standards.

So, that's how it works. Everybody passes the buck, and everybody
seems to be on the inside of the game, except the American People.
It's one very incestuous system. There are innumerable examples of
how this takes place within the framework of Science today. We've
selected some in doing this research. All of these cases have been
brought to the attention of the American People at various times,   
in different ways, just as it has been today. Some people in the
Public are indifferent. Still others continue to believe what the
Government says. If the Government says there is no harm, these
people say: "Well, there couldn't be any harm."

Others, including many members of this audience, are not indifferent.
They show a sense of shock and outrage. But remember -- the American
People have very short memories. They soon forget everything. And
one of the reasons for this convenient memory lapse is that people
tend not to feel any particular urgency to act upon their concerns
unless THEY THEMSELVES ARE DIRECTLY AFFECTED. Another reason that
these events, even when they come to the attention of the Public,
have so little impact in altering the course of the future is that
most people view them as isolated events, and they fail to see them
as part of a larger picture. Additionally, while these occurrences
may seem appalling, they usually come to our attention after the
fact, and hence, there's little we can do to remedy them.

Nevertheless, it's important to keep in mind that events such as 
the testing in Argentina and the scientific and medical experiments
that I've discussed today ARE AFFECTING US ALL. They are not taking
place in a vacuum. These experiments often are funded by your U.S.
tax dollars. And they use Americans as human guinea pigs. And they
use our environment as part of their protocol. So, far from being
aberrations, these experiments are part of a pattern of behavior --
a gestalt which is behind much of Medicine and scientific research
conducted today.                                                  

The Biological Weapons Convention was signed by the United States  
in 1972. By this treaty, all development, stockpiling and use of
bio-chemical and biological warfare agents for offensive purposes
was banned. That came after a long and heated debate. The proponents
of biological warfare vigorously opposed the destruction of what
amounted to billions of dollars of chemical warfare substances, as
well as the cessation of research, which meant the drying up of
funds for THEIR contingent researchers, manufacturers and suppliers.
At the time, those in favor of the treaty were relatively unaware 
of the extent of malfeasance by the Military in its testing of
biological warfare substances.

For instance, the Public never knew that there were SECRET SPRAYINGS
of mysterious substances by the Army and the CIA in the New York
City subway systems. Few people knew, as I revealed some years ago,
that the U.S. Army performed indiscriminate testing of a powerful
hallucenogenic drug on unwitting soldiers.  I also revealed the
BACTERIAL SPRAYING OF SAN FRANCISCO.

We have that knowledge today. We know what's going on -- or at 
least some of what's going on. We know that the Pentagon lies.    
We know that they will continue to do their work and they will
continue to manufacture poisonous things, and they will call it
"defensive". Yet, we know that it's for offensive purposes. They're
smart enough. There have been many tests of this [practice] in court.
Sometimes the [victimized] people win. Most of the time they don't.

Remember -- you can never judge .... There's no way to calculate 
the dangers if one of these things ends up being an "Andromeda
Strain" and gets into the environment. You never know, until years
later, how many top secret experiments are releasing poisons into
humans and into the environment.   A lot is going on!

I remember talking to Doctor Leonard Cole, professor of political
science at Rutgers University, the author of CLOUDS OF SECRECY: THE
ARMY'S GERM WARFARE TESTS OVER POPULATED AREAS. That book was very
good because it detailed, in a very graphic way, the Government's
policies on germ warfare, and how those policies evolved, and that
all the tests that they did, including spreading trillions of
bacteria, at various times, during TWENTY YEARS, over San Francisco,
Washington and New York. And the U.S. Army wanted to evaluate what 
they called "dispersion patterns" of the bacteria, meaning:    
"Let's see how long the bacteria will survive, and let's see in what
directions the bacteria go."   But there was never a follow-up 
to see whether or not these bacteria affected people.

Now, the Government says that they stopped those secret experiments
back in 1969.   BUT  THEY  HAD  NOT!   They were still going on.   
And there were examples of these experiments continuing. And the
Government was caught.    They just lie.

There were secrets released, under the Freedom of Information Act, 
in which the Army itself ACKNOWLEDGED, in some closed-door Senate
hearings, that during the twenty-year period, it had conducted   
TWO HUNDRED AND THIRTY-NINE secret open-air tests, over heavily-
populated areas, with genetically-altered microorganisms, two of
which were: the sirita marcensus[sp] microbe and another, the
bacillus globugilli[sp]. Trillions of these microorganisms were
thrown into the environment. The United States Army's own secret
report said that "EVERY SINGLE CITIZEN IN SAN FRANCISCO HAD BEEN
EXPOSED TO AND WAS INHALING ABOUT FIVE THOUSAND PARTICLES        
PER MINUTE."
                       (to be continued)
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