HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: wales@valeria.cs.ucla.edu (Rich Wales)
Subject: Re: Canadian call letters (was Re: FCC call letters)
Reply-To: wales@CS.UCLA.EDU (Rich Wales)
Organization: UCLA CS Department, Los Angeles
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 22:08:26 GMT

[For the benefit of soc.culture.canada readers, there's been a discus-
sion about which countries' "call letters" for TV, radio, and aircraft
start with which letter(s), and why.]

Terry Carroll <tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com> pointed out that Canada has
not been assigned all possible call letters starting with C -- just
those starting with CF-CK, CY, or CZ.  Terry pointed out that calls
starting with CB (used by the radio and TV stations of the Canadian
Broadcasting Corporation) apparently "really" belong to Chile, not Can-
ada -- though he surmised that the treaty allocating call signs around
the world might have perhaps have been amended to permit Canada to use
calls in this range.

Canada, for that matter, also "owns" VA-VG, VO, VX, VY, and XJ-XO.  VE,
for example, is used for Canadian ham radio calls.  VO used to belong
to Newfoundland before it joined Canada in 1949; aren't there still some
old stations there that have retained their pre-Confederation VO calls?

According to the World Radio/TV Handbook (a book listing radio and TV
stations throughout the world), Chile uses call signs consisting of CB
plus two or three digits for their AM (medium-wave) broadcast stations
in central Chile.  I haven't checked the most recent edition, though.

Whether Canada cut a special deal to get permission to use calls start-
ing with CB -- or whether they're just acting without regard to the
treaty and trusting Chile won't mind (probably a safe assumption with
respect to AM, FM, and TV broadcast signals) -- I don't know, but some-
how I suspect the latter.

A couple of years ago, someone told me they had called an office of the
CBC and asked them about this issue, but he wasn't able to find anyone
there who understood what in the =world= he was talking about.  Maybe
someone in the Ottawa area could try phoning the CRTC (the Canadian fed-
eral agency analogous to the American FCC) and asking whichever office
is in charge of assigning call letters.

--
Rich Wales <wales@CS.UCLA.EDU> // UCLA Computer Science Department
3531 Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, CA 90024-1596 // +1 (310) 825-5683
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Phil Gustafson)
Subject: Re: Radio UL
Organization: Famed Parquet Floor
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 00:57:48 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.004651.6300@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>> [some orchestras tun a bit high to get a "brighter" sound]
>
>And just what do they do with the fixed span instruments, such as flutes and
>the woodwinds? The idea would work fine for the string instruments, and such
>instruments as the trumpets which have a tuneable section. Why do you think
>that the instrument that is often used as a tuning reference is a flute? It
>is because the span between notes is fixed and cannot be tampered with.
>

Woodwinds have tuning slides, too.  The mouthpiece wiggles in and out a bit.
The keys give only approximate intonation anyway, the musician knows how to
fudge up and down a bit with twists of breath and lip.  Anyway, orchestras
tune to the oboe, probably because its sound is so nasty nobody can ignore it,
or because it's so cranky to play.

>: 	Remember too, that most instruments that span more than a couple
>: 	of octaves (pianos, notoriously) are not tuned equally-tempered.
>: 	They're tuned slightly sharp at the high and low ends.  Makes
>: 	them sound more 'in tune' and 'brighter' to those of use with
>: 	less-than-perfect pitch.  No idea how it affects people that are
>: 	afflicted with perfect pitch.  Sends them screaming from the room,
>: 	I suspect.

>The reason for the tempering is to make the notes sound "fuller" or
>"broader". The notes would sound brighter if the slightly sharp and
>flat strings were damped. 
>
The reason for tempered tuning is to allow the instrument to play equally
well in all keys:  basically it makes everything a bit out of tune.  
Fifths played on brass instruments are in tune.  On a piano, they're not.
String players know the difference between C# and Db, harp players can
make both notes mechanically.

>The tempering is so slight that it does not bother a person with even
>perfect pitch. If the tuning was even one Hz off, then there would be
>a 1 Hz beat note in the sound. That could be very disturbing - such
>sounds are common with a piano that has not been tuned in a long time,
>although the variance between strings is usually much greater, so the
>beat note is unnoticable.

I've heard harpsichords and clavichords with "melodic" tuning.  They sound
great in a few keys, nasty in others.

You sure know a lot about ballistics, though.

Phil


-- 
|play: phil@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG; {ames|pyramid|vsi1}!zorch!phil                |
|work: phil@gsi; sgi!gsi!phil            | Phil Gustafson                   |
| "Better a free bottle in front of me than a prefrontal lobotomy"          |
|                                      Fred (not Steve) Allen               |
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Non-Alcoholic Drinks Folklore
From: derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 00:47:23 GMT
Reply-To: derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Organization: Task Management Ltd, Auckland, New Zealand

In article <1992Apr9.064956.22223@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> amorgan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Crunchy Frog) writes:
>In article <1992Apr8.130510.12238@cs.bham.ac.uk> 
>  idf@mr-macgregor.cs.bham.ac.uk (Ian Fitchet) writes:
>
>> Hi,
>Hello
>
>>	I was drinking from a large plastic bottle of Diet
>>Pepsi/Coke/Drink of your choice when I offered some to a friend.  They
>>put the top back on the bottle and screwed it closed with the sides of
>>the bottle compressed inwards so that `there is less air inside so it
>>stays fresher.'  
>
>I believe that the pressure of the compressed sides actually causes the
>CO2 to come out of solution faster, so I think your friend is wrong.
>

If you compress the sides of the bottle with the top off the pressure 
is _still_ atmospheric pressure so should have negligible effect on the
CO2 coming out of solution faster. The deformation of the sides may
slightly increase the surface area of the bottle and any lines or creases
created would produce a point for the bubbles to form on and would increase
the production of bubbles. if you watch the bubbles in a glass they often
stream up from one point where there is probably an imperfection in the 
glass. This is something to do with the initial pressure on an 
infinitesimally small bubble being infinately large. The imperfection 
reduces this and allows the bubble to form.

If the pressure was greater than atmospheric the CO2 would come out of 
solution more slowly. 

If you squeeze the bottle until there is no air left and screw the top
on the CO2 will have nowhere to go and will therefore remain in 
solution. With a little air left in there will be a smaller volume of 
air for the CO2 to come out of solution into enter so a greater percentage
of CO2 will remain in the drink. Maybe the friend has a point after all.

I always reckoned that the moment you open the lid most of the pressurised
CO2 would come out of solution and whatever you did subsequently would
make very little difference to the amount of fizzy CO2 in the drink.

Derek Tearne.
-- 
Derek Tearne      derek@fivegl.co.nz | If yo
  rek      l   .nz                   | yo
New Zea
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Falling Bullets
From: derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 20:41:25 GMT
Reply-To: derek@fivegl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Organization: Task Management Ltd, Auckland, New Zealand

In article <9204032006.AA21934@crdgw1.ge.com> rr@bing.bang.com writes:
>
>Some yahoo blowing smoke out of his ass claims:
>>                    But here's a thing: a bullet fired travels
>>faster than sound in many cases, and I guarantee you that no falling
>>object will break the sound barrier on it's own.  So its unlikely that
>>most falling bullets have a vertical velocity equal to muzzle velocity.
>
>I'll take you up on that guarantee.  Can you prove that no object can
>have a terminal velocity greater than the speed of sound?  Need a hint?
>
>True or false, "The space shuttle on re-entry exceeds the speed of
>sound?"
>

Shall I give a hint back!

The space shuttle hits the ground at faster than the speed of sound 
and breaks up into small pieces ( Re-usable space vehicle? )

I think not!

Perhaps there are a couple of things to be considered. 
1) Terminal velocity is the speed at which a falling object either
accelerates too ( normally ) or is slowed down too. It isn't generally 
reached instantly. Perhaps the space shuttle enteres the atmosphere 
at > than 6?0 MPH but it has usually slowed down a bit by the time it 
reaches the ground. What is slowing it? Air and the resistance thereof.

2) The speed of sound in air varies depending on exactly how much 
air there is and is much higher at higher altitudes. Therefore Terminal
velocity is greater at higher altitudes.

3) Falling objects may hit the ground at greater than the speed of sound,
but they have usually come a long way very quickly and often take out
a few species of Dinosaurs on the way.

You have to be under power to exceed the speed of sound ( if starting 
from rest ), falling things just don't do this. 

Sheesh we'll have people exceeding the speed of light next ( I read it
in an Asimov book once and he's really Marylin ??? Savant so is must be 
true )

Derek Tearne 
-- 
Derek Tearne      derek@fivegl.co.nz | If yo
  rek      l   .nz                   | yo
New Zea
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From: butler@kustanair.cs.odu.edu (Prince F. Butler)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Faq list
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:51:37 GMT
Distribution: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, VA, USA

Where is this infamous FAQ List that I keep hearing about.  I have been waiting
for about a month now and I haven't seen it.
From: tjw@vm2.cis.pitt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Falling bullets on Marilyn's Parade (HE'S DEAD JIM!)
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:28:49 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <3447@moscom.UUCP>, de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan) writes:

> does not preclude the possibility that MvS is still a blonde bimbo with no
> brains that publishes Asimov's articles under her name.  Or maybe she is
> really a genius and Asimov, now tired and run down, publishes her articles
> under his name.  

Well we'll know for sure soon.  Asimov died this morning.

Terry "It's worse than that, HE'S DEAD JIM! (dead JIM, dead!)" Wood
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Falling Bullets and tuning musical instruments
From: comjohn@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Mr. John T Jensen)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 20:30:51 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:

>: a) Sound does not travel in a vacuum - remember in space no one can
>: hear you scream.
>: b) About 330 metres per second
>: c) About 1500 metres per second (this is typical of the ocean)
>: d) I have no idea my guess (based on the sped in rocks) would be about
>: 5000 meters per second.

>Which goes to show that speed of sound in a substance is density related.
>Within limiting values, temperature has little effect on density for solids
>or liquids. This is not true for air - assuming the air is allowed to
>expand/contract with temperature changes, temperature changes have a great
>effect on the density.  However, this does not change the fact that the
>speed of sound in air is related to its density - not its temperature.

>Bill

Well, of course, as regards the relative importance of density versus
temperature, I am sure you are correct.  However, temperature certainly has
an effect.  I play the french horn.  We brasses have the problem that if we
tune up cold, after we have played for a few minutes the instrument will go
slightly sharper.  I am told this is because the speed of sound in the air
inside the instrument increases as it warms up, so the pitch rises.  Before
I tune I sit and blow through the horn for a couple of minutes to warm it
up.  Alternately, I tune a fraction flat if I have to tune it cold.  Strings
have the reverse problem.  They flatten as they play, which I am told is
because the strings expand as they warm from friction with the bow,
resulting in a slower vibration of the string and thus lower pitch.

jj

John Thayer Jensen                      64 9 373 7599 ext. 7543
Commerce Computer Services              64 9 373 7437 (FAX)
Auckland University                     jt.jensen@aukuni.ac.nz
Private Bag 92019
AUCKLAND
New Zealand
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Ask Marilyn?  Not if you want the right answer!
Organization: Hewlett-Parkard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 00:23:16 GMT

hugh@fivegl.co.nz (Hugh Grierson) writes:
: In article <1992Apr3.042820.12016@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
: >
: >Surprisingly, a bullet fired vertically downward - above the terminal velocity
: >for the bullet, will (given enough time and distance) slow to its terminal
: >velocity. Air drag is a very powerful resisting force.
: >
: 
: Suprising?  This is intuitively obvious even to the most casual of observers.
: 
: >Bill
: 
: Hugh "I've always wanted to say that" Grierson

Well, it might be to you. But the usual response is that, since it is already
going faster than the speed of sound, that it will keep accelerating.

It is hardly obvious - most people don't know that a bullet slows down as it
travels through the air. Nor do most people know that a bullet does not travel
in a straight line.

Bill "Ballistics R US" Nelson
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Subject: Re: Business cards
Reply-To: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Organization: E 4th St Home For The Overeducated Underemployed - Chicago Div.
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:52:55 GMT

In article <1992Apr04.074531.33802@watson.ibm.com> margoli@watson.IBM.com writes:
>In  <1992Apr4.022249.5844@casbah.acns.nwu.edu>  drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
>>
>>      Craig Shergold is seven years old and suffering from terminal
>> cancer. It is one of his wishes to be included in the Guiness Book of
>> Records with the largest number of business cards ever collected ...
>
>First of all, it was postcards, not business cards; second of all, Craig has
>been dead for years.  This keeps popping up, though.  See alt.folklore.urban
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Actually,  he   is alive  and     well and not   wanting  any     more
postcards/greeting cards/business  cards/cards of any type ... neither
does his local post office.  There was a picture of him in Newsweek (I
think) a year or  so ago ... sitting  on top of sacks  of  mail.  Some
rich businessman paid for an operation which cured him.
							reb
From: steve@hpdmd48.boi.hp.com (Steve Petrie)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:39:43 GMT
Subject: Re: French found Atom Glass in Algeria!
Organization: Hewlett Packard - Boise, ID
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban


> Any high energy (and high temperature) source can turn sand or dirt into 
> glass.  One of my friends in Utah has a sample of glass that was formed when 
> a lineman was electrocuted accidentally by a 10 000 volt line.

  So, what part of a lineman turns to glass???     :=)

> Bruce E.

-Steve

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: Polio immunizations
Organization: Terry (hon.)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:44:41 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.152700.15122@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke) complains:

>I was told we wouldn't have to do immunology in this newsgroup.

Don't worry, it won't be on the final.

Seth "I lied." Breidbart		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Falling bullets on Marilyn's Parade
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:44:58 GMT
Reply-To: de@moscom.UUCP (David Esan)
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford, NY

In article <14795@optima.cs.arizona.edu> tzf@cs.arizona.edu (Theron Friedman) writes:
>[Personally I believe MvS is really a pseudonym Isaac Asimov, who needed an
>outlet so he could write & publish more,more,more. It wouldn't be beyond his
>sense of humor to dream her up.]

Well MvS did marry Dr. Jarvik of the famed "Jarvik" heart.  Of course, this
does not preclude the possibility that MvS is still a blonde bimbo with no
brains that publishes Asimov's articles under her name.  Or maybe she is
really a genius and Asimov, now tired and run down, publishes her articles
under his name.  Or maybe both of them are made up, and the articles are
really written by the invalid JFK who still lives on Aristotle Onasis's
island in the Aegen Sea. Or ...

-- 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 -->     David Esan      de@moscom.com  
 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Rocky Mountain Oysters 
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:36:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.162829.24560@PA.dec.com> anderson@surfsp.enet.dec.com (B. Anderson) writes:
>
>Please remember to mark your subjects with the appropriate "(LAME)" heading.

And please remember to mark your own with the "(ANAL)" heading.

-- 
   And thither came Conan, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, to tread the jeweled 
   thrones of the Earth beneath his sandaled feet.  --THE NEMEDIAN CHRONICLES 
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu                               Gene Roddenberry 1921-1991
From: jane@STRATUS.SWDC.STRATUS.COM (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Run out of town on a rail
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:13:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: echidna.9204080113.AA09513

Being run out of town on a rail (usually associated with other charming 
activities involving rednecks and tar and feathers) is a time-honored old
custom for torturing "folks we don't like."  

A pre-Civil War description of this activity, which was perpetrated on some 
visiting abolitionists in the bad old south, demonstrates the intent.  Take
one fence rail, on *edge* so that the corner of the split points up, fitting
nicely into the victim's groin area, and let the legs dangle to each side. Tie 
victim's hands behind back.  Tie feet together under the rail.  

Now, get two big burly guys, who lift rail onto their shoulders and bounce 
the victim a bit.  Imagine that nice sharp edge driving up into your groin.
Now, let's take the guy for a jog.  After a couple laps, the victim is 
screaming and begging to be let off the rail.  If the guys are "nice," they 
just jog him to the edge of town.  If they're not, they may leave him to 
ride the rail for a few more laps, or let him sit for a few hours.  (Even 
without the jostling, the weight of your legs can make the rail cut into 
your groin pretty painfully, after a while.)

Charming custom, what?  Would *you* want to come back, after that?

  --Jilara  [jane@swdc.stratus.com]
  "Of course truth is stranger than fiction.  Fiction has to make sense."
    --Tom Clancy
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From: mpeter@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU (Margot Peter)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,misc.kids
Subject: Re: Walla walla bing bang (was Re: Worm song?)
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:24:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: ecst.1992Apr08.152453.18008
Reply-To: mpeter@OAVAX.CSUCHICO.EDU
Organization: California State University, Chico

In article <92098.103025ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET>, <ICLNM@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
>In article <1992Apr7.074220.15280@amd.com>, karen@brahms.amd.com (Karen Black)
>says:
>>
>>Middle of the Road)" and "Tennesee Birdwalk".  Since silly songs go all
>>the way back to "Lamsie Doats" (30's?) and beyond ("Clementine"), I
>>doubt that it's a 60's phenomenon.
>>
>Marezy doats, not lamsie doats.  Little lamsey divie.
>As long as were at it the top song of 1939 was "Three Little Fishes".
>We are easily amused, aren't we?
>Loyd Means
>Phoenix AZ

Oh wow! yeah! I'd forgotten "Three little fishes in an iddy biddy poo". But my
all time favorite was Ella Fitzgerald's "A Tisket a Tasket" (my green and
yellow basket). That lady had class!




Margot                 "I had to sink my yacht to make the guests go home."
                                      F. Scott Fitzgerald
                                                   
                                                   
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Polio immunizations
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:27:00 GMT

In article <16APR199209253613@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov> isaacman@stars.gsfc.nasa.gov (Subvert the Dominant Paradigm! (301) 513-7769) writes:
>
>The Sabin vaccine uses a so-called "attenuated virus", which is a live 
>virus in a technical sense but which is not contagious.  There are a 
>very rare number of cases in which people have caught the disease after 
>being given the vaccine, but stories about contagious cases (such as the
>one above are almost) are almost certainly false.

I was told we wouldn't have to do immunology in this newsgroup.
-- 
"...no identification of self or mission; no interference with social develop-
 ment of said planet; no references to space, to other worlds or more advanced
 civilizations."   The PRIME DIRECTIVE, by Gene Roddenberry and Gene L. Coon.
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu                               Gene Roddenberry 1921-1991
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Falling Bullets
Organization: Hewlett-Parkard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:04:23 GMT

: speed of sound at sea level:  1116.4 ft/s   =   761.2 mi/h
: speed of sound at 100,000 ft:  991.2 ft/s   =   675.8 mi/h
: 
: So, the person could actually be falling almost 100 mi/h slower
: at altitude and break the speed of sound.
: 
: I could post some calculations I have done if anyone is interested that
: show that it is impossible NOT to exceed the speed of sound in
: free fall from above 100,000 feet.

Quite likely, since the air is much less dense. Get high enough and you
can ignore its effects for short periods of time.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: FURRJK@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu (Joel Furr)
Subject: Lemurs
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 06:58:52 GMT

Where is the FAQ list, we are asked?  Perhaps the Lemur Liberation Army
has hijacked it.

Newcomers to the list may be interested to know that:

Lemurs apparently are fond of escaping from primate research labs and
hitchhiking great distances

Lemurs prefer Twinkies (tm) to all other forms of sustenance

Lemurs are worshipped as Gods by the natives of Madagascar

Some Lemurs are named Nigel.

Not to mention that sufficient intake of the right kinds of LSD will
alter your mental state to something closely approximating that of a
Lemur.