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From: jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN)
Subject: Re: re: Why Casablanca ? (was Re: Top Five Movies of All Time)
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:33:10 GMT

In article <3jd21dp@rpi.edu> kimp@rpi.edu (Phil Kim) writes:
>>
>>Just wondering, Phil K, what does W-I-E-R-D means?  I tried Webster's,
>>Collier's, Roget's, etc. but couldn't find it listed.  You happen to
>>have your own dictionary or a different set of vocabulary words?
>
>I quoted from the following statement:
>> In article <jorngh.150.723643755@dhhalden.no> jorngh@dhhalden.no (JORN GUNNAR HALONEN) writes:
>It seems to me that you are considered weird if you not
>put this nostalgic piece in your top-ten list ...

And so ? I didn't mis-spell it, you did.

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From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: most underated actress/actor
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:43:45 GMT

A couple of people who keep popping to mind are Jerry Orbach, who is
an excellent actor but keeps winding up with the most peculiar,
obscure roles, and Fred Gwynne.  I've seen him in only a handful of
roles since THE MUNSTERS, but he's lent remarkable talent to each of
them.

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From: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: most underated actress/actor
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:00:55 GMT
Reply-To: lsnow@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Linda Snow)
Organization: NCR E&M CLEMSON Liberty, SC

In article <92351.123026MMB3@psuvm.psu.edu> MMB3@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>Definitely Whoopi Goldberg.  Flame me if you want but I think that this
>woman is up there with Streep and Close.  She's just not getting the roles.
>I wonder why?   Everything she is in, she makes it better than it is.
>Color Purple, Soapdish, the nun movie from Disney who's name escapes me
                             ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                             Sister Act
>at the moment.                                Melissa Brown


1. You *were* aware that she won an Oscar for Ghost, weren't you?  This
does not usually indicate an underrated performer.
2. She's incredibly popular -- do you know anyone who doesn't love her? Well
maybe my ex-husband but he doesn't count, he has no taste.
3. She's in movies all the time -- she *is* getting the roles (not serious
ones usually, but comedy is her forte without a doubt).
4. She's also incredibly busy -- a regular role on Star Trek, a talk show,
and comedy appearances.  I don't know how she has time to do any movies
at all.
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From: crafts@athena.mit.edu (The Invisible Man)
Subject: Triva(l) questions...
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:54:33 GMT

Is there a soundtrack by Stanley Jordan for Passenger 57?

With all the little implausibilities noted the the
Die Hard 2 thread do you all think that scripts should be combed through
for plausibilty. The pay telephone gaffe was the continuity persons 
fault, but the exploding british aircraft could have been done to
reflect the fact that the plane had no fuel...or do you think we might
be overreacting. It is a movie and not a docudrama.

Under Siege gaffe...when the band first starts playing the REAL big
 baldheaded terrorist is standing next to the band, then during the 
song we jump to the same guy carving meat while the same song is still 
playing then we go back to the band and there he is again. Also right
 after the terrorist belows shoot the officer in the kneecap, we jump to 
the chaos at the party, then right when we go back to down below everyone 
can be seen waiting on their marks not moving for about a second then 
they all move.

I think I have seen all of these movies too many times. I should go see
Aladdin this weekend.

Dan
crafts@athena.mit.edu
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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: universities
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:58:02 GMT


	Does this posting have any bearing on previous posters
in rec.arts. movies?  If not, your posting is inappropriate.  I
must apologize for my fellow UVA student.  I'm surprised there
isn't more shit coming from my school right now.  The menu
item "PCNEWS" recently appeared on the main menu in our system
and when someone logs in he or she is pre-subscribed (quite
arbitrarily) to a few computer newsgroups, some local UVA ones,
and rec.arts.movies!  Be warned.
						-Quinn
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Separated at Birth?
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:59:49 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <1992Dec11.060412.5082@Virginia.EDU>, kyh5y@Virginia.EDU 
("Kathleen Yukiko Hockin") writes:

> Actually, I think Gary Oldman and Bernie Koppel the doctor from
> the love boat look like twins.  Any other opinions.

You mean the head of KAOS?  *grin*

And do you mean Gary Oldman as Sid Vicious, 
			 or as Count Dracula, 
			 or as Rozencrantz,
 			 or as Vlad Tepes,
			 or as Lee Harvey Oswald?

That's the great thing about the guy...he's so damn versitle...

Greg Bole                               "Rug-man!  It's been a few  millenia.
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu                    Slap me some tassle!"
                                             Robin Williams in _Aladdin_
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Daniel Day Lewis, Anyone?
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:44:08 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <168BEE736.ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU>, ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU 

> Just wondering if there's anyone else who was *very* entranced with DDL
> in _Last of the Mohicans_, as my best friend and I were when we saw it?

*Raises his hand high*  I thought he was incredible.  Perfect in every way
for that role, and that film.  I'd give him the Best Actor...but I'm not
holding my breath for the Academy to grant him another this year.

Actually after seeing _Hoffa_ this morning, I'd say Jack has a great shot
at it...a fantastic, but flawed film...very grandiose.  Most of it really
worked for me, and Jack was excellent.

> I immediately went out and bought _My Left Foot_, which was *nothing*
> like _LOTM_, but in which I saw why it was that Daniel got his Oscar.

Yup, _MLF_ and _A Room With a View_.  His range is amazing, and he's a 
very powerful actor.  I'll have to rent _My Beautiful Laundrette_ soon.

Greg Bole                            "Don't shrug you moron, I'm blind!
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu          Save the body languare for the bimbae."
                                        Al Pacino in _Scent of a Woman_
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From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: Movies you loved, but couldn't see more than once.
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 07:41:15 EST

> >>Felicitas A. Atabong (faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu) wrote:
> >>: Has anyone out there seen a movie or movies that they thought were
> >>: really good, but they just couldn't see  more than once, either
> >>: because it was too scary or too sad??
> 

Yeah: THE FISHER KING did this to me.  Depressed me out of my mind for 
some reason.  I wouldn't want to *ever* see it again.

Namaste,
Elizabeth
From: ahummel@ems.cdc.com (H. Austin Hummel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Amy Irving - actress or singer?
Date: 11 Dec 92 18:32:17 GMT
Reply-To: you@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <1992Dec10.200337.17735@cbnewse.cb.att.com>, gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
|> In article <1992Dec10.070209.16573@news.Hawaii.Edu>, teshima@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (A. Lani Teshima) writes:
|> > In article <ByoKE6.FHy@gabriel.keele.ac.uk> gerry@keele.ac.uk (G.D.Pratt) writes:
|> > >{ I originally posted this to rec.music.bluenote 'cause I assumed that
|> > >  Amy Irving was a blues/jazz/soul singer - now I'm told she is
|> > >  ex-wife of Steven Spielberg }
|> > >
|> > >The film "Who Framed Roger Rabbit?" was on the TV here last weekend.
|> > >Jessica Rabbit's singing vocals were dubbed by Amy Irving (from memory)
|> > >who sounds pretty good but I can't find out anything about her. I know
|> > >the soundtrack is available - is it any good and does it just have the 
|> > >one song "Why Don't You Do Right" by Amy? Has she recorded anything else?
|> > 
|> > Jessica Rabbit was voiced by KATHLEEN TURNER from War of the Roses
|> > (with Michael Douglas), NOT Amy Irving.
|> > 
|> 
|> Wasn't the voice Kathleen Turner, but the singing Amy Irving's?

Try the sound track from "The Butcher's Wife". Amy does some great singing.
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From: tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com (Nhan Tran)
Subject: Best Seagal movie?
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:35:37 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp, Orlando, Fl


What is the best Seagal movie?  I am talking about martial art aspect of the
movie not about the artistic value of the film?

I think it's his 1st film, "Above the law".  There is more fighting scenes 
where he shows off his Aikido techniques.  It's quite refreshing to see him in
close fight scenes.  It's quite a break from those kicking, punching movies.
His recent movies don't have that many fighting scenes as in the first movie.

N. Tran
From: peterme@ocf.berkeley.edu (Peter Merholz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Help find MOTHER JOAN OF THE ANGELS
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:14:29 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu

I'm looking for MOTHER JOAN OF THE ANGELS on either film or video,
preferably the latter. Please e-mail any pertinent information you have.
Thanks!

--Peter M.
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From: kmink@hubcap.clemson.edu (Kenneth S Mink)
Subject: Re: Watchmen
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 21:44:14 GMT

mmidboe@nyx.cs.du.edu (digital saint) writes:


>     Here is all the stuff that I have heard about Watchmen. Also
>considering the source they probably aren't true but nice to think about.
>Terry Gilliam would direct it. Jon wouldn't be an actor because you just
>can't do him he was going to be completely computer generated. Alan Moore
>was going to write the screenplay, and I heard that he might possibly have
>something different in the ending and the beginning. I can't imagine him
>changing anything about the story. It is just so good right now I hope he
>doesn't mess with it. If he is even considering changing it all. I heard
>that they had a preview for it at (Egads) the Batman preview party in
>Hollywood. It had Pink Floyd's song "Time" and it showed this clock come
>toward the screen and flip over into a happy face button. Then said coming
>in I don't remember when directed by Terry Gilliam. These things are from
>an almost totally unreliable source so I have no idea if they are true.
>Sure would be nice if they were. Pink Floyd was supposed to do music for
>the movie, mixed in with stuff of "Dark Side of the Moon". The graphic
>novel is better than Batman or anything else of the comic book ilk so I
>can't see why someone hasn't jumped on this movie idea. I heard that Terry
>Gilliam was hoping The Fisher King would be succesful so he could use some
>of the money from that to do the Watchmen.

The idea of a Watchmen movie sounds great, but I have a couple of problems
with it.  As above, you can't use an actor for John.  There is no way for
it to come off with the right feel with a human being playing John.  The
other thing has to do with the part of the book that is the boy reading the
pirate comic.  It would undoubtedly be dropped from the movie, but I've always
nocidered it an essential part of the story.  If it was left in great, but I
don't think it will be.
On an other note.  This is the first I've heard about the movie and don't know
what casting has been done, but I think Hoffman or Pacino would make a great
Rorschach, with a little makeup.

Ken 


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From: ggranger@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Greg Granger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Stephen King Movies
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 11:34:56 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

dcarter@supra.East.Sun.COM (Dave Carter-SMCC-Atlanta-District MCC) writes:

- Does anyone have a list of ALL movied either by Stephen King 
- or based on a story by Stephen King?
- 
- I have seen many and thought most were badly done.
- I have also heard that The Stabd is coming out on a TV mini series soon.
- 
- Ones I thought were good (that I can remember)
- 
- The Shining (my favorite)
- Children of the Corn  (didn't they make a sequel?)
- Cujo
- Firestarter
- The Running man
- 
- The worst ones:
- 
- Maximum Overdrive
- Lawnmower man
- Pet Semetary
- His last one, I can't even remember the name, but who can forget
- the guy getting stabbed with an ear of corn.
- ---
- 


The movie you're thinking of is "Sleepwalkers", which is now available on 
home video (it's not even worth the $0.99 as an old movie release ... 
trust me, it's **THAT** bad!).

Not only are they making "The Stand" as a mini-series, but they are 
presently filming "Needful Things" in British Columbia (Canada).  BTW, 
not only did they do a sequel to "Children of the Corn", but they also 
did one to "Pet Sematary".  Why do they waste their time with such poorly 
translated-from-book movies to produce a sequel.  Let's hope that they 
don't even think of making a "Sleepwalkers 2".

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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: movies you loved, but
Date: 16 Dec 92 07:27:41 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

FAA>Has anyone out there seen a movie or movies that they thought were
FAA>really good, but they just couldn't see  more than once, either
FAA>because it was too scary or too sad??

     TESTAMENT.  Acting was superb, the premise horribly lifelike and
     realistic.  It broke my heart, and I can't see it again.
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From: jrs@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Janet R. Starosta)
Subject: Re: The aria in Room with a View????
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:05:30 GMT

In article <HELGEB.92Dec15123448@admin.uio.no> helgeb@admin.uio.no (Helge J. Bj|rnhaug) writes:
>In article <asale.724360587@sfu.ca> asale@fraser.sfu.ca (Antonina Sale) writes:
>
> Hi, maybe someone can help me with this question, it's driving me INSANE!!!!!
> WHAT is the name of the operatic piece (aria, I think) featured in _A Room
> With a View_???????? It's been in a lot of movies, it's a woman singing, and
> it sticks in my head because of it's expressive style that emphasizes emotion 
> over trilly formal stuff. I'm dying to find out what it's called and what 
> opera it's from... PLEASE HELP!!!
>
>O Mio Bambino Cara - or something like that. Composed by either Puccini or
>Rossini, i think.
>
>Helge

O mio babbino caro is from Gianni Schicchi (which is part of
Trittico) by Giacomo Puccini.

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From: jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jimmy Kung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Highest gross movies
Date: 18 Dec 1992 10:09:59 -0600
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <5388@othmar.lulea.trab.se> you write:
>Nhan Tran (tran@peora.sdc.ccur.com) wrote:
>
>: When people talk about the highest grossing movie, do they take into
>: account of inflation?
>
>No they don't ! If they did there is only ONE movie that can be considered
>for highest grossing: Gone with the wind. According to one source (I'm afraid
>I forgot where I read it) it has grossed over 2 billion dollars to date, showi
>some 800 million dollars profit.

[...]

While GWTW, when recalculated in today's dollars (that's how
Variety does it), is the top, you also have to consider the fact
that it was re-released about 4-5 times, and that is where they
made the real money.  In today's era, very few movies have been
re-released to theatres with the smaller attention span of
viewers, and the advent of the home video-pay per
view-cable-television path.  (To which the companies get a lot
smaller share of the profits than through re-release)

You could also make a case for the low costs of the film because
of the studio system, but that's another story.

What I would like to see is films production budgets also include
things like advertising budgets, film print costs, etc.  To
provide a more accurate reflection on how much a film REALLY
makes.  There seems to be a perception by many that when a film
grosses $50 million, and the "budget" was only $30M, that the net
profit is $20M...

Although, the film companies never seem to make money on
anything...  :)

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From: cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike")
Subject: Re: Daniel Day Lewis, Anyone?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:45:07 GMT

ARL00SJB@UNCCVM.UNCC.EDU writes:
> Just wondering if there's anyone else who was *very* entranced with DDL
> in _Last of the Mohicans_, as my best friend and I were when we saw it?
> I immediately went out and bought _My Left Foot_, which was *nothing*
> like _LOTM_, but in which I saw why it was that Daniel got his Oscar.
> And I *loved* that great piece that Libby Whatshername did on Daniel
> in _Premier_ magazine (it was either the last one or the one before).
> VERY funny!
>  
> --Jean

	I was not at all pleased by Day-Lewis' performance.  He
delivered his lines with the tone and idiocy of a California
surfer.  "I sure as hell ain't in your damn militia"?  Please.
The special effects and cinematography in the film were
amazing, and yes, Day-Lewis is an attractive fellow, but he did
not give a good performance.  The movie would have worked alot
better as a silent film with that awesome score in the
background.

	--Chris Wrike
From: gt0963d@prism.gatech.EDU (Deeptendu Majumder)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Anybody seen Becoming Colette ?
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:00:08 GMT
Organization: The Dream Chasers Syndicate

any comments ?

thanks
d.
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From: butterworth@mscf.med.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: MOVIOLA?  Anyone Heard of it?
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:32:44 GMT
Organization: Univ of Penn - Med School Computer Facility

anyone heard of this movie?  cast, director, release date?
kind of a vague question i know... 


db (nothing offensive)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: mab7g@Virginia.EDU ("midori meech baer")
Subject: Re: Gary Oldman on SNL
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:45:37 GMT

i ADORED dracula.  it was simply glorious!  chill out on winona and keanu.  
they were very good.  gary oldman, however, stole my heart. . .i want to
be a vampire now.  they are sooo romantic.  anyone reading a
vampire?  please be in contact. 

what did you think of the ending?  happy or sad?  appropriate,
or no?
From: spongebo@cithara.login.qc.ca (THE EYE-BALL KID)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Black Holes of Cinema
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:25:56 GMT
Organization: Organ Grinders Monkeys Union With Penguins As Mascots

mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes) writes:

> This may be a controversial or flame-baiting topic, but it relates to the 
> "overrated" thread.  Black holes are cinema are people with no talent who kee
> making movies!
> 
>     Nominees:
> Andrew McCarthy        Major black hole
> Molly Ringwold
> Julia Roberts
> Dolph Lundgren
> Keanu Reeves !! Major black hole! Can he walk and chew gum as anyone other th
>                  Ted or Bill ?!?
> Demi Moore
> Bruce Willis !!  Major
> Jim Belushi
> Patrick Swayze Major major black hole!!!!
> Tom Selleck !  Major bh
> Meg Tilly!!   inactive lately, thank god!
> Jean-Claude Van Damme !
> Sylvester Stallone   (enough Rocky and Rambo black holes!!)
> 
> 
>   Any more nominees......?

Tim Burton
Rene Harlan
Dino De Laurentis
Paul Verhoden (sp?)
Linda Hamilton

Spongebo - THE EYE-BALL KID (:::::-)

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From: D.M.Jones@newcastle.ac.uk (D.M. Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Spielberg
Date: 18 Dec 92 11:34:32 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <Bz9Mtv.9pr@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:
>vaughanj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jake Vaughan) writes:
>
>>	Personally, Spielberg is one of my favorite directors (if you could not
>>tell).  Yes, he's had his box office busts, maybe a bit too many, but I think
>>that Jurrasic Park will change a lot of opinions about him.
>
>I certainly hope so.  However, it depends on which Spielberg is directing:
>the Good Spielberg, who directed "Close Encounters" and "Jaws," or the
>Evil Spielberg, who gave us "*batteries not included."

	This is just a minor point, but if I am right then Spielberg didn't actually direct Batteries Not Included. He was only acting as producer on that one through his Amblin outfit. Personally I think that Spielberg could do a very good job on Jurassic Park, and if the rumour that I heard on the net is true, then the Dinosaurs should be quite something to see (apparently they will be computer generated).

	Donald Jones
	D.M.Jones

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From: Cindy_Bale@net.com (Cindy Bale)
Subject: Re: Age of Innocence
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:05:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.203455.16198@scott.skidmore.edu>,
dtschett@saims.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter) wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Does anyone know when the "Age of Innnocence" is due to be released?

Winona Ryder said (about 2 weeks ago) that it is such a special film that
extra care is being taken with it and we shouldn't expect it until as late
as late Fall 1993.

Cindy Bale