HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Bloody FTP sites!!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:13:22 -0800
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <1992Nov19.005612.9007@neptune.inf.ethz.ch>, umueller@iiic.ethz.ch (Urban Dominik Mueller) writes:
>>Subject: Bloody FTP sites!!!
> 
> Watch your language. FTP is a free service for you. If you don't like it,
> don't use it, but don't complain like this.
> 
> In article <1e721bINNs9e@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bj371@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Marc Tooley) writes:
> 
>> I've been looking all over for an FTP site that doesn't delete the older
>>files as it receives the new ones. I'm looking for an FTP site that has
>>it's library, and doesn't delete it.

Let's also look at the original posters originating address.  Freenet!  Perhaps
if he joined the real world and started realizing that somebody has to *pay*
for the disks and the network connections that he'd wake up and smell the roses
and appreciate this *free* gift to the Amiga community.

Some people expect everything for free.  I'll lay odds he doesn't buy much
software either...

-- 

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EWilts@Galaxy.Gov.BC.CA     Office:  (604) 389-3430    Fax: (604) 389-3412
From: kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com (Steve Kreckman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: CDTV Query
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:19:35 GMT
Reply-To: kreckman@cbmvax.commodore.com (Steve Kreckman)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

Chartscreen in the UK makes SCSI adapters and hard drives for the CDTV. They
are available from DKB Software (along with their own line of CDTV add-on's) in
the US. Check an Amiga World magazine for a distributor near you


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: Serial Port problems - Answer
From: MWEAVER@VITRO.COM (Mike Weaver)
Date: 16 Nov 92 05:50:43 -0500
Organization: Vitro Corporation
Nntp-Posting-User: terrwm

Thanks to all who E-Mailed with suggestions/help/etc...  It turned out to be my
power supply (the -12 Vdc went to la-la-land).  Needless to say, the RS-232
de-coupling (1488/1489 chips) couldn't do thier jobs.  New supply is ordered.

Thanks again!


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: arnew@ifi.uio.no (Arne Olsen Watnelie)
Subject: Re: Virus help
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:46:47 GMT
Originator: arnew@skuta.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Nov22.035153.15672@cs.uoregon.edu>,
elliott@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee) writes:
> Hi, I'm trying to eradicate the Clist and Saddam virus' from several of my
> disks.  From what I understand, Saddam rewrites its own disk-validator
> onto all disks.  I tried using BootX -- it opens up, tells me that I
> have the clist virus and then gurus.  So I tried Virus_Checker.  This
> appears to work but does not delete the disk-validator (it deleted it from
> the first disk I tried (system disk) but not others).  After it's done
> scanning the disk it tells me that the disk is not validated.  How can
> I get rid of this disk-validator if the disk is not validated??  The way
> I see it is that I have to copy all of my unvalidated disks onto good disks
> and trash the old ones.  Is this correct or is there a better way?  And
> also, why does BootX guru on me?

First of all, if you have a virus on the disk that contains the BootX virus
killer, you have a BIG problem. In this case try to get a clean copy. Also
make sure that you are using the latest version of the program...

The reason for BootX to guru may be that you have a virus in memory (i.e on
the BootX disk). However BootX may crash when it tries to check some no-dos
disks.

When you have a clean disk with BootX on, make sure to have it
write-protected, and never remove the protection. Before you start killing
virus, make sure that you use the RESET VECTORS option and the INSTALL LVD
option, and the LOCK DISK option. If you don't use the lock disk option, the
Saddam virus may spreed while you try to remove it.

After going through all your disks with BootX, the Saddam Virus will be
removed, however BootX will not supply your disks with new disk-validators,
this is something you have to do by hand! In this case bu sure that you
actually copy a real disk-validator and not a Saddam virus!!

Remember to use the repear disk option on evry disk that was infected with the
Saddam virus.

Hope this helps...

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From: 00tdboardman@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Ted Boardman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: ECS Agnus installation info needed
Summary: How to install 1 meg CHIP RAM
Keywords: Agnus,CHIP
Date: 17 Nov 92 21:15:00 GMT
Reply-To: 00tdboardman@virgo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Distribution: world
Organization: Ball State University

I'm sure this has been asked before, but I did try to find a information file
on wuarchive.  

Anyway, what jumper or whatever do I need to cut, remove, (whatever) from my
motherboard for my A500 to recognize the 1 MEG of CHIP RAM.  I definately have
a ECS Agnus installed, and a normal Denise.

E-mail would be just fine... Thanx!
-- 
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From: STUCS206@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: A1200 help wanted.
Date: 23 Nov 92 11:38:02 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom

Is there yet available an 80 MB hard drive (internal) and a 32 bit 2 MB Fast
Ram expansion (ie not PCMCIA)?

David J Brockley (Executor of Lemmings)
Astrophysics III
Birmingham University
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: Michael Hall <mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: CDTV Query
Content-Type: text
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:06:38 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4 PL0]
Content-Length: 1248      

Hi, y'all.

	I am too poor to own a computer right now, but my parents back 
home are looking to get one for my little brother (read that as Dad and my 
little brother.)

	Dad was reading about CDTV a ways back and was asking me about it,
but I really only remembered all the advance press the Amiga "Baby" was 
getting.  Since talking to him, I've seen that there are all those
promised peripherals like keyboards and mice and disk drives and if 
a household already has a big color tv it might even be a little cheaper 
than outfitting a system with a monitor.

	The folks like the concept of the CDTV, which is why they are 
interested.  (It looks cool to them.)  Is the CDTV with a keyboard and 
all a viable stand-alone system?

	What are the guts of the thing anyhow?

	Are there possibilities for expansion beyond the basic keyboard, mouse
drive, etc.?

	Are they better off with a 5/600 with a CD ROM drive?

	Are they better off with an MSDOS clone with a CD ROM drive?

	Are they better off with an abacus?

	Thanks for any info, insights, flames with a kernel of useful 
knowledge, etc.

	-Mike
-- 
	    Michael Hall    mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
		"Rid of formalized wisdom and learning
 		People would be a hundredfold happier,"
From: elliott@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Virus help
Date: 22 Nov 92 03:51:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Nov22.035153.15672
Organization: University of Oregon Computer and Information Sciences Dept.

Hi, I'm trying to eradicate the Clist and Saddam virus' from several of my
disks.  From what I understand, Saddam rewrites its own disk-validator
onto all disks.  I tried using BootX -- it opens up, tells me that I
have the clist virus and then gurus.  So I tried Virus_Checker.  This
appears to work but does not delete the disk-validator (it deleted it from
the first disk I tried (system disk) but not others).  After it's done
scanning the disk it tells me that the disk is not validated.  How can
I get rid of this disk-validator if the disk is not validated??  The way
I see it is that I have to copy all of my unvalidated disks onto good disks
and trash the old ones.  Is this correct or is there a better way?  And
also, why does BootX guru on me?


-- 
Elliott Lee
elliott@cs.uoregon.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: SYSDMCKE@VM.UWP.EDU
Subject: Slow boot on TrumpCard500 w/ Seagate ST157N ?
Organization: UW-Parkside
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:04:30 GMT

Hello,
 I have recently bought a used TC500 w/Seagate ST157N (46M) HD.
** My question is this **
When I boot my machine from the HD, it checks it ?4? times before deciding to
boot from it.  When I have a floopy in DF0: it boots on the first check.
Is this normal ? I have 1.3 rom and WB1.3.
Any help would be appreciated.
Thanks,
Doug mckeown
sysdmcke@vm.uwp.edu
From: jorbor@etek.chalmers.se (J|rgen B|rjesson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Unpack .zip-files?
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:52:35 GMT
Reply-To: jorbor@etek.chalmers.se (J|rgen B|rjesson)
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, SWEDEN

Yep, I need a program which can unpack .zip files so if someone knows anything about this then please contact me.

/Jorgen Borjesson

E-mail: jorbor@etek.chalmers.se
From: jam@jammys.ocunix.on.ca (James McOrmond)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: A590 internal disk available somewhere?
Distribution: world
Date: 15 Nov 92 23:06:47 EST
Organization: Jammy's Amiga Corner BBS - Ottawa, On, Canada

>My question is this: Is there a source for the disk style that fits into
>the A590, in a size greater than 20 meg?

The A590 is one of the BEST SCSI controllers available for the Amiga.  You
don't have to put a lower quality IDE drive in there.  I know many people
that dumped the XT-IDE 20 meg drive, in place of a Quantum 105 SCSI drive,
and it runs beautifully.

>Thanks,
>Tim Leonard
>University of Minnesota
>Microbiology Dept.

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From: fgd3@nifty.UUCP (Fabbian G. Dufoe, III)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: CDTV Query
Distribution: world
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:45:26 EST
Organization: Fabbian G. Dufoe, III

In article <BxxJzB.6H6@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> Michael Hall <mphall@silver.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
>   Dad was reading about CDTV a ways back and was asking me about it,
>
>   What are the guts of the thing anyhow?

   It's essentially an Amiga 500 with a CD-ROM drive.

>   Are there possibilities for expansion beyond the basic keyboard, mouse
>drive, etc.?

   I don't think there are at the moment.  Commodore probably won't make
expansion devices for it, but some third party developers might.

>   Are they better off with a 5/600 with a CD ROM drive?

   Depends on how you want to use it.  Buying the computer and CD-ROM drive
is the more expensive way to go.  But the computer can take a hard drive and
extra RAM which the CDTV can't.

>   Are they better off with an MSDOS clone with a CD ROM drive?

   They can get going cheaper that way and there will be lots more software
available to them.  On the other hand, they'll have to live with MS-DOS
instead of AmigaDOS.

>   Are they better off with an abacus?

   The price performance ratio of the abacus is far better than that of
either the Amiga or an MS-DOS computer. :)

--Fabbian G. Dufoe, III
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: SYSDMCKE@VM.UWP.EDU
Subject: How to unpack .DMS Files ?
Organization: UW-Parkside
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:03:04 GMT

Subject says it all !
I downloaded ArcadeClassics2.DMS from WUArchive and I can't undo it !
help !
Thanks,
doug mckeown
sysdmcke@vm.uwp.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: tim@lenti.med.umn.edu (Tim Leonard)
Subject: Re: ECS Agnus installation info needed
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 14:26:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.154834.11900@bsu-ucs> 00tdboardman@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Ted Boardman) writes:
>I'm sure this has been asked before, but I did try to find a information file
>on wuarchive.  
>
>Anyway, what jumper or whatever do I need to cut, remove, (whatever) from my
>motherboard for my A500 to recognize the 1 MEG of CHIP RAM.  I definately have
>a ECS Agnus installed, and a normal Denise.
>

This is from the service bulletin that I received when I
bought my 1meg AGNUS. I have typed it in verbatum, except
that I left out the instructions for the A2000.


**************************************************************
8372 FATTER AGNUS
INSTALLATION PROCEEDURES

The new 8372 Fatter Agnus IC, (P/N 318069-02), will require the
following modifications for proper operation.

If no modifications are performed the IC will address only 512K
of Chip RAM and operate only in the NTSC Mode.

NOTE: The correct IC Extractor tool must be used when removing 
the original 8370 FAT AGNUS from the socket. The Extractor Tool
is available from Commodore Parts. P/N 314874-01

	AMIGA 2000 instructions deleted

INSTALLING THE FATTER AGNUS IN THE AMIGA 500

1) Locate Jumper Pad JP2 (Between 68000 at U1 and ROM at U6)
   and use a sharp Exacto Knife to cut the trace connecting
   the Bottom and Center Pads. Solder the Top and Center Pads.
   * This will enable Address 19 from the 68000.
    * See page 39 of A500 Service Manual
2) Locate the RAM Expansion Bus Connector CNX. Pins 1 and 2
   are on the Bottom Row and Pins 55 and 56 on the Top Row.
   Count up from the bottom, (By Twos), and locate Pins 41 and
   42. About 1/8" to the left is a plated hole with a trace
   which runs straight up, (Parallel with the white silkscreen 
   line designating the CNX Connector Outline.) This trace
   should connect between to Pin 32 of CNX and Pin 32 of the
   GARY IC U5. This trace must be cut.
   * This controls the _EXRAM Signal.
    * See Pages 39 and 40 of A500 Service Manual

   NOTE: There is also another trace running straight up next
         to the trace which must be cut. This trace may be 
         obscured by the silkscreen line.
         BE VERY CAREFUL THIS TRACE IS NOT CUT

3) Line Pin 1 of the 8372 FATTER AGNUS with Pin 1 of the 
   Socket and insert IC.
**************************************************************

hope it helps.

Tim Leonard
From: masc@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Martin Schulze)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: redirecting input under ADOS 2.0?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 12:10:01 GMT
Organization: Studenten-Mail, Rechenzentrum Universitaet des Saarlandes
NNTP-Posting-Host: sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de

fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton) writes:
> Is there a way to set up a shell to take input from, say, the PIPE:
> device rather than the CON: device from ADOS?

Pipe??
Newshell AUX: is working fine with a nullmodem-cable and a second Amiga :)

 
> -- 
> ben							*****

--
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masc@stud.uni-sb.de

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction,comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: pfarrell@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Pat Farrell)
Subject: General Info wanted by Amiga novice
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Keywords: Kermit, PGP, net access, FAQ
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Virginia, USA 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:08:42 GMT


Hi amiga fans!
I hope this is an appropriate group to post this, if not,
please point me to a better one.

I need pointers to any and all amiga FAQs and US-based
FTP sites of Amiga software. 

I'll outline my problem.... I am reasonably fluent in Unix and
DOS/Windows, and are used to wandering the Internet, but I
know very little about Amiga systems. But, three or four years
ago, I recommended that my brother buy one for his teenage son. 
His son was into videos, making movies, etc. and the word I heard was that
Amigas had real neat video/MIDI/etc. which was (1) more
expensive on the Mac and (2) non-existant on the PC.

He bought an Amiga 2000 with three floppies (2x3-1/4 + 5-1/2)
a hard disk and the XT-class brideboard.
Unfortionately, the teenager only used it as a game machine.
My brother was quite PO'd that he spent $2000 for a Nintendo.

The kid if off to college now. I've gotten my brother
interested in getting onto the net. I figure he has a
computer, I gave him a modem, and all he needs is a copy of
Kermit, PGP, and a few other tools for his Amiga, and an 
account on a local public access Internet vendor. If he likes
it, we can move up to POP and Trumpet, Slip, etc.

I figured I could use the bridgeboard to use a copy of MS-dos
Kermit to get started, and then find amiga-native versions.

But the kid never used the XT-side, and there are few manuals
to read. I can get a "workplace" icon to show when I boot, and
clicking on it shows folders, like any of the other "borrowed"
from Xerox Guis. But that is all I have figured out. I can't
find the DOS subsystem, or how to read floppies, or how to
transfer files from a DOS diskette to the amiga's hard disk,
etc.

I don't even know how to find out the configuration I have.
I assume that the OS and utilities are at least somewhat out
of date, but have no idea how to see what I can do next.

Any help to make me less dumb about Amigas will be greatly
appreciated.

Thanks
Pat


Pat Farrell,      Grad Student                       pfarrell@cs.gmu.edu
Department of Computer Science, George Mason University, Fairfax, VA
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From: 9027882@sunvax.sun.ac.za
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: ECS Agnus installation info needed
Date: 16 Nov 92 03:09:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: sunvax.1992Nov16.010922.5638
Reply-To: ferr@cs.sun.ac.za
Organization: University of Stellenbosch

> I'm sure this has been asked before, but I did try to find a information file
> on wuarchive.  
> 
> Anyway, what jumper or whatever do I need to cut, remove, (whatever) from my
> motherboard for my A500 to recognize the 1 MEG of CHIP RAM.  I definately have
> a ECS Agnus installed, and a normal Denise.
> 
> E-mail would be just fine... Thanx!
> : /ed Boardman - Ball State University    :00TDBoardman@Leo.BSUvc.BSU.edu __///:

I'm interested in the info too.  Could someone email me his/her responce
or post it here in this newsgroup.

Thanks.

Johan Ferris
ferr@cs.sun.ac.za
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: SYSDMCKE@VM.UWP.EDU
Subject: Re: .DMS files - Not undo ! un-dms !
Organization: UW-Parkside
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 20:15:47 GMT

sorry, i meant i couldn't DMS it !
(ps. to undo a dl, just hook your modem up backwards ! demmo ? ;-)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: gencon06@titan.ucc.umass.edu (WatchDog)
Subject: csh vs. W-Shell
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:03:53 GMT

I am wondering how csh compares to W-Shell?  Functionality, ease of use, etc.
Is it a good stepping stone from the standard shell to W-Shell, or can it
replace W-Shell (i.e., just get csh and not bother to go to W-Shell.)  I have
taken a look at the specs for both and I like what I see for both, but thoes
are just spec sheets, I prefer real experience to hard facts.
Thanx in advance.
                                                       -WatchDog
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
From: zytnia@daimi.aau.dk (Christian Vands| Andersen)
Subject: Re: How to unpack .DMS Files ?
Organization: DAIMI: Computer Science Department, Aarhus University, Denmark
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 19:55:12 GMT

SYSDMCKE@VM.UWP.EDU writes:

>Subject says it all !
>I downloaded ArcadeClassics2.DMS from WUArchive and I can't undo it !
>help !
>Thanks,
>doug mckeown
>sysdmcke@vm.uwp.edu

 Use the program called DMS. 
 
 How do you undo a download ?
From: ssurpeat@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk (Richard T Peat)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.introduction
Subject: Re: Programming
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:13:50 GMT
Reply-To: ssurpeat@csug.cs.reading.ac.uk
Organization: Dept. of Comp. Sci., University of Reading

Having read most of the articles before this, I'd like to add my voice.

AMOS DOES multitask, but not in the same way as everything else. You cn switch 
between an AMOS program and workbench using amiga-A I think.

With respect to screen blankers, it doesn't work, mainly because of the different
way it multitasks.

I wish people would not judge the language on a quick look at it. There is one 
particular magazine writer who regularly slams AMOS PD, because you can't get
a list of devices/volumes. Maybe he should try the right hand button?

True, the way AMOS does stuff is different, and true it can't produce the kind of
stuff that a machine code expert could produce. But compared to Amiga BASIC.......

For producing proffesional results with the minimum effort it is fantastic.

But just wait for AMOS Pro, now that's something REAL special............



Richard Peat
ssurpeat@uk.ac.rdg.susssys1
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.games:15765 rec.games.misc:18447
From: Mazzie@cup.portal.com (LYNETTE MAZZIE MAZZIOTTI)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.games,rec.games.misc
Subject: Re: Another World
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 92 11:48:20 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

Matthew, when you are in the falling rock area keep
Keep going 'right'.. jumping over the pits and
avoiding those hanging thingys.
You will get to a dead end... 
BLOW out this wall..when you walk into the new area
you will see its a dead end again. Thats ok, you 
will need this area later...
Now GO BACK the way you came.
When you get to the area of the falling rocks,
take the UPPER path.
You will see a bat hanging from the ceiling ..
SHOOT to scare it..it will start to fly and then
go left... Jump from where you are (end of rocks)
to the Stalactite and then to the next
The hanging things wont kill you cause they should have
just eaten the bat, drop down to the ground once
you get over the higher rocks and keep going left.
If you want more hints/help from here let me know.
Have fun!










You will now be making your way UP for a while. 

 :D