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From: cei308@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Jet Girl)
Subject: Re: UK Gold: Tenko
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 11:25:30 GMT


Is anybody out there who can receive UK Gold taping Tenko????
If so, could you e-mail me about the possibility about copying
the tapes....?

love Joolz
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From: cei308@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Jet Girl)
Subject: Re: Star Meetings.
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:19:08 GMT


Well, if we are talking about meeting celeb.'s, not counting musicians
and singers....

When I was younger, I went on holiday to Blackpool and we stayed in the
same hotel as that slimy git Richard Whiteley.  Wooo-eee I dont think.

When "She Stoops To Conquer" was on at the Alhambra, Bradford, my sister
was stopped in the street by a lost Una Stubbs who asked "Where is Marks
And Spencers"???

This, I think is really cool.

Also, my friend once got her Marmalade Atkins book and poster signed by
Charlotte Coleman...

And I've met Victoria Wood, so I'm happy.


Joolz
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From: clgp15@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: L.A LAW ON SKY?
Date: 26 Jan 93 09:48:24 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

I've just seen the latest advert for sky,and as well as showing a trailer
from 90210,which I knew they had now,they also showed a trailer for LA LAW.
Do sky now have the rights to this,or are they just going to show the old
series.If they have the rights to the new series,and itv,have missed out,
then what hope is there for we dishless people.It seems that any series
that is succesful in america,is now going the way of sky,and the teristerial
channels are missing out.So can someone out there reassure me that itv,
will still be showing the new series of la law.
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From: grimmer@nyx.cs.du.edu (Geoff Rimmer)
Subject: Final Blake's 7 Episode (POSSIBLE SPOILERS)
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Keywords: confusion
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 93 13:25:28 GMT

I AM CONFUSED.

I thought the final episode of Blake's 7 consisted of Tarrant, Vila,
Dayna, Soolin and Avon going to a planet in search of Blake, only to
find out it was a Federation trap and that THE BLAKE THEY SAW THERE
WAS AN ANDROID.  This is what I remember from the episode when it was
first shown on the BBC (in 1981?).

The next time I watched it was last night, on the newly-released video
tape.  In *that* version, Blake is most definitely a human being.

Does anyone else recall the 'android' version?

If no one does, one of the following is probably true:

1. I dreamed it.

2. I'm getting episodes (and programmes :-) muddled.

3. My brain has been gradually destroyed by drinking too much tea.

4. I have mysteriously transferred from a parallel universe in which
Blake *was* an android.

Geoff
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From: clg171@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: WHERE IS QL?
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:44:47 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster


what has happened to QL,the last time it was shown was before christmass
and as I understood, there was still some episodes left.Are they going
to start showing them again,or do they plan to show them at a later date.
Does someone out there know the present situation.
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From: cei308@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Jet Girl)
Subject: Re: EBAT DESIGN BLUES (was: Bring 'em back.)
Keywords: bored, crap
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 17:24:06 GMT


The Freak and Jet Girl wrote:

      A LOAD OF CRAP WHICH JUST HAD TO BE DELETED...
      
> What...?? You mean to say you choose your solution only days before it
> has to be handed in.Tusk.! Do you always have to copy me.?

NO!!!  Great minds obviously think alike.

>>Readers of trn...let me explain...our design lessons are totally crap...
>>we feel we have to share them with you....
>  Really, you have to be there to sample the embarrassment of actually being
>  a student on the course.

Why oh why didnt I do the teacher training course instead????

>>The Freak and Luddite Help Pages...Neal dearie, you KNOW I changed my alias
>>to Jet Girl at the start of this year...
>>
> Oops I forgot ...sorry.Its senile dementure I am afraid.It sets in early in
> us Oldham folk.

Ha !!!  Serves you right for coming from LANCASHIRE...!!!

> Right thats two potential new newsgroups....
> 1.) rec.cozzers.....or rec.coronation street.
> 2.) rec.Freak and Jet Girl....trns answer to Marje Proops.

Ho ho ho

> hmmmm...maybe rec.design,or rec.technology,or rec.small.business.management.
> Have you had your technology lab for this week.If you havent pretend you 
> are ill and dont turn up.Had I foresight thats exactly what I'd have done.

Nope...I have the lab on Friday - wooo-eeee I dont think!!!  I've got to go
too cos I'm trying to put in a full week...ha ha!!!!

love
Joolz


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From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Swap Shop
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:51:12 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Jet Girl (cei308@cck.coventry.ac.uk) wrote:
> 
> All I can say to that is :   Mister Bob the sheep
>                              Mister Bob Bob the sheep
> 			     Mister Bob the sheep
> 			     Mister Bob Bob the sheep!!!
> 

Pah. You haven't experienced local radio until you've heard Billy and
Wally's Hold Your Plums on Radio Merseyside... 

		<Sparky's Magic Piano sort of voice>
		it's a plum
		it's a plum
		it's a bell
		....hold your plums...

Truly a show for the intelligentsia, a Herculaean test for the minds of your
average scouser... possibly the most inane quiz programme ever to grace the
wireless... entertainment in the grand tradition of ``Educating Archie''...

pete
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From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: Citizen Smith
Date: 21 Jan 93 11:50:21 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <RPB.93Jan20135158@brain.psy.ox.ac.uk> rpb@psy.ox.ac.uk (Ray Bellis) writes:

>In article <zlsiida.756@fs1.mcc.ac.uk> zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd) writes:

>   Cheryl Hall, right.  Now what's she been in recently?  I saw her in 
>   something but I just can't remember what.  'a bit rough' may be somewhat 
>   unkind, but I remember thinking that as well.

>I think the program in question was a recent episode of The Bill.  I
>can't remember what the storyline of the episode was, but it may have
>been the one where a schoolboy injured in a road accident ran away.

But I don't watch that either!

            All creatures will make merry   (on pain of death)
    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033  
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From: cei355@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Poldark)
Subject: Re: Bring 'em back.
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:15:07 GMT

In article <C1Gt0x.FII@cck.coventry.ac.uk> cei352@cck.coventry.ac.uk (The Freak) writes:
>           Bring 'em back.! and that does not refer to Dr.Who
>	   or Blakes 7.As far as I am concerned they can remain
>	   dead and buried forever.
>	   In recent months we have seen the return of Celebrity
>	   Squares,and prior to that the Are you Being served 
>	   gang returned,albeit in a different location and
>	   setting.So why not carry on and bring back some
>	   more,? after all when you look at some of the
>	   crap which is on nowadays,it makes you wonder why these
>	   programmes were ever stopped in the first place.
>	   Bring Back,
>	   a.) Treasure Hunt with Anneka Rice.
>	   b.) University Challenge.
>	   c.) Its a Knockout.
>	   To name but a few......
>	   Any more.?


               Ok Freak. How about a return of that old favourite
	       CROSSROADS? Or how about PIPKINS?
	       MUMPFY THE ELEPHANT: Now that was a classic!
	       CLOPPER CASTLE: One of the most memorable.
	       MAGPIE: the ITV alternative to BluePeter.
	       But what I really miss is that soap by the name of
	       ALBION MARKET a truely wonderful production by
	       Granada (NOT).
	       
                 
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From: tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins)
Subject: Brunel Uni. in TV 
Distribution: world
Organization: Job hunters use Parachute
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 21:26:02 +0000


In article <C19CJJ.81L@brunel.ac.uk> Robert.Turner@brunel.ac.uk writes:

> tfj@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Trevor Jenkins) writes:
> %The (Brunel University lecture) block has been featured in...

> who was trying to catch fish in the river running across campus.
> 
> Now, as anyone will tell you who has been here, the Pinn (said river)

You jest "IT'S A RIVER!" In all the time I spent on that campus I never saw
a river. A stream, a veritable tricle, a puddle but NOT a river! :-) I
remember being in my supervisors office (in the Comp Sci building) and
looking out of the window and wonder "why is there a ditch running through
the campus?" One of those eternal questions like "What IS Morse's name?"

Regards, Trevor.

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From: djenkins@axion.bt.co.uk (David Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: MORSE'S NAME
Date: 25 Jan 93 08:16:47 GMT
Reply-To: djenkins@axion.bt.co.uk (David Jenkins)
Organization: British Telecom Research Labs


In article <C196pq.FMM@cck.coventry.ac.uk>, cei352@cch.coventry.ac.uk
(The Freak) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan18.141139@axion.bt.co.uk> lkirby@axion.bt.co.uk
|> (Lewis Kirby) writes:
|> >
|> >Barrington Pheloung (sp?), the composer for all the original music
|> in the series,
|> >spells out "MORSE" in the credit sequence usimg morse code. He has
|> also spelt 
|> >out the the killer's
|> >name sometimes (in the Australian episode, for example) in the
|> incidental
|> >music. Now, my wife tells me, BF was on UK daytime television last
|> week and
|> >said that Morse's first name would be spelt in morse code in the
|> last ever
|> >episode (to be shown on UK television this week - stars John
|> Geilgud).
|> >
|> >Could anyone who knows morse code please listen and let us know what
|> it is?
|> >I have also read that it begins with "E".
|> 

Actually, what BP said was that he sometimes spelt out the killers name
in the opening titles, and sometimes he spelt someone else's name -
depending on whether he felt like being a b*st*rd.


David Jenkins

"In times like these, it helps to recall that there have always been times
like these." - Paul Harvey.
From: ee89psw@brunel.ac.uk (Paul S Wain)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Star of Inspector Morse
Date: 22 Jan 93 14:51:01 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]


Well, OK I admit it I don't watch Morse as much as most of you do BUT I do have
a Morse related claim to fame:

I know John Tripp.

He isn't listed in the titles I know, but he did (co)star in every episode (that
I know of....) as the double for John Thaw (?).... He was nearly always the
one you saw wandering away with his back to the camera aswell as all those 
wonderful 'back of the head' shots... Was he mentioned in the 'making of'
program? (If so he may have gone under his other name which for the life of
me I can't remember).

Oh, and going back to Rob's post on Brunel being used for strange shots which
of corse includes Morse last week, it reminds me of that scene in which Morse
and Lewis are standing on a bridge over the Motorway (suposedly the M4 or is
it the M40) which was filmed on the M25 at St.Albans next door to the
SavaCentre Hypermarket... If you looked closely at the scene you could see that
the road sign in the back ground was the distance to the M1....

My other (non-related) claims to fame are that my mum used to go out with John
Motson and the Rory Bremner has been round my house... 

Silly I know, but what the hell... flame away... Relax, and enjoy....

YAY! NEW SERIES OF ABSOLUTLY TONIGHT....


Paul S. Wain Esq.
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From: rct@fulcrum.co.uk (Richard Taylor)
Subject: Re: Useful UK TV Addresses (5/5)
Organization: Fulcrum Communications
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:55:12 GMT


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From: cei308@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Jet Girl)
Subject: Re: Bring 'em back.
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 18:53:33 GMT


>	   In recent months we have seen the return of Celebrity
>	   Squares...

  Yes I know, but it wasnt the same without Wille Rushton sat in the middle...

>	   Bring Back,
>	   a.) Treasure Hunt with Anneka Rice.
>	   b.) University Challenge.
>	   c.) Its a Knockout.
>	   To name but a few......
>	   Any more.?


Erm...let me see....the original Tomorrow's People
                    Sapphire and Steel
		    Monkey
		    Mother Makes Five
		    Bod
		    Tenko (the repeats will do fine!!!)
		    Crown Court
                    The Good Life


BTW Freaky dear, can you imagine what it would be like if COVENTRY UNIVERSITY
were on University Challenge????  Tee hee!!!

love
Joolz

		    


		    
		    


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From: aet@cck.coventry.ac.uk (Jumpin' Jack Flash)
Subject: Re: We love ITV (Romancing the Stone) ...
Keywords: cut cut cut
Organization: Coventry University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 15:12:48 GMT

In article <1993Jan18.132624.24961@dcs.warwick.ac.uk> gaspode@dcs.warwick.ac.uk (Simon Stirley) writes:
>Was I imagining it, or did ITV cut out absolutely loads of Romancing the 
>Stone ? If you can't show a film properly ...

I certainly noticed that as well - wasn't it ridiculous?  They almost changed
the whole plot by doing it....  and what will they do tomorrow night when they
shoe Jewel Of the Nile??  I dread to think.......

>I think I must have been over-irate, because I could've sworn they dubbed
>every occurence of 'hell' with 'heck'. Surely they are the same thing ?
>What was the point of this. Also they cut out bits of scenes, presumably
>because they were deemed unsuitable for early viewing, which made the scenes
>pointless. Very silly.

Tell me about it - when they showed Jumpin' Jack Flash (really funny film)
a while ago, they edited out so much of the swearing that the film just
wasn't funny any more.....  tut...tut.... tut......

Regards
Jack
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From: arf@otter.hpl.hp.com (Andrew Farmer)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 22:13:23 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Star Meetings.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Bristol, UK.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk


    Well that's bloody nothing that is...I was once asked where
 the nearest offie was by none other than Debbie out of 
 Brookside....Come on, you remember....her who was going out
 with Damon Grant....yeah? Think I'm cool now?
    But I can really top anything you see because a friend of mine
 has actually TOUCHED Frankie Howerd (bless 'im).
	
	so HAH!

		arf
From: dhylton@linus.umd.edu (Deborah Hylton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Bring 'em back
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:27:37 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

Here's my bring 'em back list.

Professionals
Sweeney
Hazel
Tiswas
Executive Suite
Mary, Mungo and Midge
Bill and Ben
General Hospital (I think thats what it was called, there was a doctor
in it called Dr. Bywaters)


Deborah
From: pete@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.uk
Subject: Re: More Coronation Street Crap
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:41:57 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Jet Girl (cei308@cck.coventry.ac.uk) wrote:
> 1 Don Brennan - IMHO, only in the programme to give Ivy "Drink til you're 
>                 sick" Brennan someone to feel Catholic Guilt over/about

I dunno, I think Geoff Hinsliff should be saved cos he used to be good in
Brass...

> 2 Alf Roberts - it should've been him who died horribly, not Renee Roberts.
>                 He is a dull character whose main purpose seems to be as a
> 		springboard for Audrey "Achooo" Roberts jokes and jibes (sorry
> 		-that is a Rentaghost in-joke)

PLEASE! PLEASE! PLEASE! Kill Alf... I thought his dicky ticker was going to
floor him on several occasions but sadly he still lingers on...

Come on, we all remember Miss Popov... hardly an obscure in joke at all.


> 3 Nicky Platt - a spoilt brat.  I was hoping for him to be crushed under the
>                 wheels of a juganautt (this term. wont let me delete sp's!!!)

Please. And Gail, and Martin.


> 4 the whole of the McDonald family - boring.

Agreed.

> 
> I say bring back Suzie Burchill and the girl who Rita fostered (cant remember
> her name in the prog.  She had a crush on Nick Rhodes of Duran Duran and was
> played by the woman in Making Out who was having a lesbian affair...)						
> 

What about getting rid of --

	* Raquel -- can't act and isn't funny any more
	* Emily Bishop -- has no story these days, the only thing I can
	  think of which will save her is a torrid steamy sex-thing with Ken
	  Barlow, and why not, they're about the same age!
	* Kevin and Sally -- yawn.

Bring Back Hilda Ogden and Eddie Yeats!

Have YOU got your Reg Holdsworth ``Knowledge is Power'' shirt yet?
Time for alt.corrers I think.

pete
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From: dowds@iiasa.ac.at (Angela  DOWDS)
Subject: WANTED: Lost Empires
Organization: IIASA, Laxenburg, Austria
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 07:56:00 GMT

nyone out there happen to have a series called Lost Empires on video, done by
Granada Television a while back?  I'm desperate to get hold of a copy!

Thanks!

Angie
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From: arkhive@apusapus.demon.co.uk (Ailsa Jenkins)
Subject: N&Q features net.personality 
Distribution: world
Organization: QLA - Quantum Leap Anonymous
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 11:30:02 +0000


In article <1jpahlINNgnn@clover.csv.warwick.ac.uk> phuae@csv.warwick.ac.uk writes:

> PS. imho Notes & Queries is an excellent program. But when are they going to
>     answer some of the queries from the end of the program?

Obviously yaginfe.

(yet another good idea nicked from elsewhere)

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From: kaurs@next09wor.wam.umd.edu (Sharanjit Kaur)
Subject: PBS funding for British shows.
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 21:04:39 GMT


  I've noticed that a lot of British productions that are shown in the  
U.S. by PBS stations are actually (partly) funded by WGBH in Boston. Shows  
like Sherlock Holmes with Jeremy Brett and, in fact most programmes that  
are shown in the PBS "Mystery" slot (with intros by Diana Rigg). 
  In any case, my question is this -- if WGBH Boston 'funds' these shows  
(even if it is only partly), why do they take ages to broadcast it in  
America?  For instance, I know that the Sherlock Holmes story, "The Master  
Blackmailer" guest-starring Robert Hardy, was actually shown in Britain in  
December 1991. It was shown as a Christmas special. American PBS stations  
(or at least the rich ones) are only just going to show it this Spring  
(according to Anglofile). What's with the wait?
  I've also noticed that the A&E channel 'fund' certain programmes like  
Lovejoy and movies such as "The Cloning of Joanna May" and more recently  
"Ashenden".  In any case, A&E are much faster at broadcasting these  
programmes than the PBS stations are. I remember that they showed "The  
Cloaning" and "Ashenden" only about a month or two after it had been shown  
in the UK. I don't understand why PBS stations make us wait forever. I can  
understand the wait for shows like "Red Dwarf" because they receive no PBS  
funding at all but I really don't like waiting forever for Sherlock  
Holmes. Anyone have any idea why they do this? 

Bye
Sharanjit Kaur
kaurs@wam.umd.edu