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From: ludes@u.washington.edu (Paul Ludecke)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: ODIPKT & Grateful Med 6.0
Date: 12 Jan 93 17:18:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1iuuhuINN5k5
Distribution: world
Organization: UW Health Sci Library
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I manage a small Netware 3.11 LAN linked to the internet.  I'm using LWPD
4.01 and
the current ODI drivers.  I'm wondering if anyone has had experience with
the ODIPKT 
driver and Grateful Med 6.0 (GM6 comes configured for Telnet packet or
Wollogong
implementation, but no ODI).  If you've had luck with said beast, please
drop me a note.

Thanks!

Paul Ludecke    UW HS Library micro manager
ludes@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: dseeman@novell.com (Daniel Seeman)
Subject: Re: Deleteing Directory Tables
Organization: Novell Inc., San Jose, Califonia
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 21:03:55 GMT

In article <1ia4ahINNr75@tamsun.tamu.edu> carlb@tamsun.tamu.edu (Carl A. Brown) writes:
>I've discovered that I have a lot of space locked up in empty
>directory entries (like 50+Meg), and I'd really like to get that 
>space back so that I can put files in that space.
>
>Is there any way of removing those directory entries to free
>up the space for files (I have a 3.11 server 486/EISA/SCSI)  
>short of backing it up and re-formatting it, or will that even 
>do it?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>-Carl
>
Hi,

This really isn't my area, but you may want to look into the use of the PURGE
command.  I think this will remove all deleted files from the Directory Table,.

Just thought I would chime in with that one.  Let me know if it doesn't help,
and maybe we can come up with another solution.

Think Peace...

Dan Seeman
Novell
Walnut Creek, Ca.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc,comp.protocols.nfs
From: craigb@boole.syd.ips.oz.au (Craig Bevins)
Subject: NW 3.11 ODI + PC-NFS + remote boot: is it possible?
Originator: craigb@boole.syd.ips.oz.au
Reply-To: craigb@ips.oz.au (Craig Bevins)
Organization: IPS Radio and Space Services.  Sydney, Australia.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:39:16 GMT

This is probably a FAQ, but I can't find any reference to it
anywhere.

I want to net boot a discless workstation with the DOS ODI shell
and also have access to PC-NFS.  I have mucked about with various
configurations using odinsup but I still can't get NFS to work.

Is there somebody who can help a neophyte NetWare administrator
with pointers to the right incantations to get this going?

Many thanks,
Craig.
From: jc@i5120h.nrl.navy.mil (J. Clark)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Creating a drop box on a server  :
Keywords: directory access rights, drop-box
Date: 4 Jan 93 23:27:12 GMT
Organization: NRL

Hi everyone, Happy New Year.

I've creating a 'drop-box' for the users on my server.  This allows them
to 'send' files to each other.

Novell 3.11 with Novell 4 MAC.  I create a dir called INBOX with a dir 
for each user under here. Each user has full rights to his/her
sub dir, and create write etc to the INBOX dir. (Rights flow downward
so each user can create files in dir's that are on the same level.)

I map drive I (for Inbox) to that user's dir.  I use the Novell MENU prog.
to ask which file is to be 'sent' and to whom it should go; then
use Ncopy to copy the file (since each user can create fiels in another's
dir the file get copied there) and then SEND to send amessage to the 
recipient that a new file has arrived on their I drive.

Because they don't have read right they can't see the contents of others files,
but could (I think) overwrite an existing file).  I also couldn't find
a simple way to have the file name trasmitted to the recipient as wellwell.

Hope this helps

John
jc@i5120h.navy.nrl.mil
From: sturm@sun490.fdu.edu (Neal Sturm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: DOS Partition on EXTERNAL disk?
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:25:23 GMT
Organization: Fairleigh Dickinson University

In article <MGILMORE.93Jan11103000@beach.csulb.edu> mgilmore@csulb.edu (Mark Gilmore) writes:
>
>  I'm interested in setting up a 486 with several external SCSI drives as
>a NOVELL server. The 3.11 installation manual mentions that the server must
>contain a DOS partition on an internal disk drive or a floppy (several times
>from pages 118-132). In particular, Page 119: "Machines that do not have an
>internal (channel 0) controller must boot with a boot diskette. Only hard
>disks attached to a standard bus internal controller can boot from a DOS
>partition."
>   SO...I have no internal hard disk. Am I limited to booting from a floppy?
>Does a SCSI controller meet the requirements above? Anybody out there running
>a configuration with no internal hard drive? Or is the NOVELL document wrong
>in its use of the word "internal" to really mean something else?
>   Thanks for any replies....
>Mark Gilmore,   mgilmore@csulb.edu
>-- 
>Most of the ascetics, it turned out, had not known about chocolate before they
>took up asceticism. Most of the clients who came to their therapy centers knew

I am running Netware 3.11 on a 486 with only a SCSI 1.2gb hard drive and
I boot of of that hard drive. I am using HP hard drives, Toshiba hard
drives, Fujitsu hard drives and Seagate hard drives. All of them are
1.2gb each on a seperate server, each with a Procomp S-DCB scsi card and
each prepared with Procomps DCB-SET-5 software. I create a small 4 meg
dos partition and the rest is novell.

Neal Sturm
sturm@fdu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: mcollins@db (Marty Collins)
Subject: Re: Can I bind ip to a class C *subnet*? (faq?)
Organization: Novell, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 17:22:20 GMT

vikki@e40-008-7.MIT.EDU (Vikki King) writes:
: 
: Hi:
: 
: 	I just tried to do the following:
: 
: 		bind ip to ne3200 addr=192.233.25.15 mask=255.255.255.192
: 
THe problem is that when subnetting you can not assign an address to a host
such that the subnet number is all one's or all zero's in binary.

You have decided to use a subnet number of 192 which is 1100 0000 in binary.
This would yield the following:

	00 0-64
	01 65-127
	10 128-195
	11 196-255

Now the first and last of these choices is invalid so you have to throw
them out. You are using the address 192.233.25.15 which is in that first 
throw out range. Shift down one range and use numbers in that range for
one subnet and the next range for you second subnet.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kaandorp@fwi.uva.nl (*)
Subject: Btrieve file conversion?
Keywords: Btrieve
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 13:54:35 GMT

L.S.

I want to convert a Btrieve data file of which I
do not know the exact properties.
The application that created the file was written
in Turbo Pascal and uses this single file only.
I tried to access the file with several utilities,
but all of them ask for FILE.DDF and FIELD.DDF.
Question:
How can these files ( FILE.DFF & FIELD.DDF ) be created
without knowing anything about the recordstructure?
(Pascal sources not available...)
Does any other reliable method exist to convert a Btrieve
file to another fileformat? (preferably dBase format)

Groeten,
Hans Kaandorp
kaandorp@fwi.uva.nl

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: messina@netcom.com (Tony Porczyk)
Subject: Re: Novell and TCP/IP
Organization: Messina Software
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:20:37 GMT

ruskin@ACF1.NYU.EDU writes:


>I have a network running NetWare 3.11 between AT Compatibles and IBM PS/2s.
>I'm using Ethernet_II packets.  I just bought LAN Workplace for DOS, Novells
>TCP/IP add-in.
>I can load _either_ IPX and NETX and use my LAN _or_ LSL, 3C509, and TCPIP
>and use my organization's backbone and the Internet.  If I load _both_
>protocols, I can access my LAN, but _not_ the backbone.  According to the
>Novell documentation, I should be able to use both simultaneously.  Other
>than telling me it's possible, though, the documentation doesn't tell me how
>to do it, and the people at Novell couldn't figure it out either.  If any-
>body has had this problem and knows how to solve it, I sure would appreciate
>some help.

Did you really call Novell Tech Support with this?  It should be rather
trivial.  Are you using ODI driver that comes on the Etherdisk?  Did you
install LWPD from diskettes and gave it the proper info for NET.CFG?
I have terrible time believing someone at Novell would tell you that they
couldn't figure it out...

t.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott)
Subject: Re: Netware AUTOEXEC.NCF
Keywords: NW3.11
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:39:59 GMT

jmbrown@netcom.com (John M. Brown) writes:

>I am trying to load two instances of the SMCPLUSS.LAN lan card driver
>One instance is for the NORmal IPX frame and the other is E_II for TCP

Oops, in my earlier post I didn't notice that you were talking about two
drivers for one card, not one driver for each of two cards.
Sorry about the foolishness...

-JTT

(Pobody's Nerfect)

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kent@nosc.mil (Kent K. Kuriyama)
Subject: Re: attach command wont take password.
Keywords: attach password
Organization: Naval Research and Development, Hawaii Laboratory
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 05:13:23 GMT

In article <6eHowB4w165w@netlan.jpr.com> alberg@netlan.jpr.com (Al Berg) writes:
>dak@boomerang.com (David A. Kearney) writes:
>
>> Greetings,
>> 
>> I have a book that says the 3.11 "attach" command should allow a password
>> in the form :
>> 
>> %attach <server>/<login>;<password>
>> 
>> But when I try to use it this way it still asks for a password.  Is
>> the book wrong or has something changed since the book?  More importantly,
>> is there a way to attach a server specifying the password for automatic
>> attaching?
>> 
>Sorry, kimosabe, no can do... the only way you can do this is to have a 
>file containing the password in a directory with the attach command and 
>do something like "attach <server>/<login> < file.txt"  
>
>This is a bit of a security risk, though - passwords need to be entered 
>to validate user access - designed for security.
>
>Al
>
>=========================================================================
>Al Berg, CNE                                                 NETLAN, Inc.
>Network Emergency Response Dude                       29 West 38th Street
>alberg@netlan.jpr.com                                 New York, NY  10018
>Phone: 212/768-2273 x211     Fax: 212/768-2301                        USA
>=========================================================================

If the 'attach' command is invoked from within the login script it does
not require a password (assuming that the second server has the same
password as the first).  All of our users login to server 'a' and attach
to server 'b' in this manner.

Kent Kuriyama
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: simmons@MSMS.DoE.k12.MS.US (DAVID  SIMMONS)
Subject: Netware C libraries, interface, functions, etc.
Organization: Mississippi School for Math and Science
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 08:48:05 GMT

Does anyone know of a public domain C library that will allow use of the
Netware interrupts through "easy-to-use" C functions as opposed to writing
your own functions based on the limited information on the specifications
of the functions.  If there is not a PD library available, can anyone tell
me how much money it would cost to buy the Novell Developer's Kit or 
something similar that will perform this task?  Thanks.
Please send replys to my mailing address.
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+
| David Simmons                           |  simmons@MSMS.DoE.k12.MS.US  |
| Mississippi School for Math and Science |  simmons@EE.MsState.Edu      |
+-----------------------------------------+------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Subject: Remote boot image server?
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 00:24:39 GMT


The remote booting process currently used, needing a separate image for
each combination of machine parameters, is really cumbersome. Would it
be feasible to
  a) replace whichever component of NetWare which does the boot image
     serving (is it an NLM?)?
or b) set up a server to respond to the boot requests, in place of
     the NetWare server? Is the protocol publicly documented?
Has anyone done something like this?  My current system uses a lot of
C code to generate BAT files full of COPY statements to build the boot
floppies (in theory it could write the boot images directly, if it knew
about FAT tables and stuff), but even though this goes some way to
solving the maintenance hassles, the 0.6MB of space taken up by each
image is a huge waste. It surely can't be right to store a hundred copies
of NETX.EXE, one in each image!

I can't believe Novell think this is the right way to do things. Is it
going to get better in 4.0?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: joet@dcatlas.dot.gov (Joe Trott)
Subject: Re: Is a drop-box directory possible with MSDOS 5.0?
Keywords: directory access rights, drop-box
Organization: U.S Dept. of Transportation
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:37:14 GMT

krgrose@koala.berkeley.edu (Karl R. Grose) writes:

>When the directory access privileges are limited to CREATE ONLY in
>Netware 3.11 MSDOS COPY command fails to create anything but a
>zero-length file.  Is there a way around this? ..Would also like to use
>SAVE AS command with WINWORD 2.0

Also grant Write access.  Silly, I know, to be able to create a file but
not write to it, but that's the way it is...

-JTT

>Fred Grose
>krgrose@insect.berkeley.edu



Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: davallen@vms.macc.wisc.edu
Subject: LAN Workplace for DOS
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Distribution:  world
Date: 11 JAN 93 09:34:12    

We have a small (150 node) departmental LAN running Novell NetWare 3.11
over a token ring LAN with several connections to the campus ethernet.  We
need to be able to talk 3270 to several campus mainframes.  Is the LAN
Workplace for DOS and TN3270 a reasonable solution?  Is the combination
configurable for the several hops it has to make to get our of ourt token
ring and across the campus ethernet? 

Thanks!

	Dave Allen
	Space Science & Engr. Ctr.
	UW-Madison
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: pierre@mksinfo.uucp (Pierre Benard)
Subject: Re: Memory Managers..(HELP!)
Organization: mks compu group
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 04:32:17 GMT

mbreton@gomez.intel.com (Michael Breton) writes:

>I'm looking for the memory manager of choice for clients on a Novell network.
>We are running Netware 3.11 and all of the clients are DOS 5.0 and use the ODI
>drivers, (because we use Lan WorkPlace and load tcpip).  We also are all MS
>Windows 3.1 users so there is also smartdrv and sometimes graphic card drivers.
>To add to that, all clients load ansi.sys, a fax server driver, a modem server
>driver, and netbios for Lotus Notes.

>As you can see, when we are done, there is not much DOS mem left.  We were usingQEMM but it is just a nightmare to support for 150 clients that are different 
>and know nothing about their system config.  We currently use just DOS himem andemm386.  It works but it doesn't free up much dos mem.

There are not that many alternatives. QEMM is probably your only solution if
you want to stay with DOS. One thing you might want to try, though, is OS/2
2.1 (whenever it comes out). That version will have Win 3.1 functionality, 
and should be great, since all your TSR's are loaded in an address space
separate from each of your dos sessions. With 2.0, I had both Novell IPX and
IBM TCP/IP stacks loaded, and still had 630k free in each of my DOS sessions.
Also, since you already have windows, the upgrade price shouldn't be too bad.

Hope this helps.

Pierre Benard
MKS CompuGroup.
From: jaynes@med.umich.edu (William Jaynes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Netware NFS, Banner printing
Date: 8 Jan 1993 13:08:48 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan - Medical Center
Distribution: world
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Originator: jaynes@hendrix.itn.med.umich.edu


In article <1993Jan7.182445.6052@novell.com>, mcollins@db (Marty Collins) writes:
|> mike@childsoc.demon.co.uk (Michael Bernardi) writes:
|> : According to the Netware NFS docs, when printing from (an RS6000 under AIX)
|> : unix to a Novell print queue, you cannot disable banners IN UNIX. Is it
|> : possible to disable banners in Netware? (ie for user GUEST)?
|> : Mike
|> 
|> THe suppression of banner is done only by the Unix host when printing from
|> Unix. THis cane be done with AIX with either the lpr -h or lpr -J/nb
|> commands.
|> 
|> I am not sure where you referenced this issue in the nfs manual.
|> 

I had to solve this problem by renaming lpr to lpr.orig and writing a
substitute lpr that would include the -h option.  I did it in Perl.
Here's the script:

----------------------------------------
#!/bin/perl

#
# Dumb replacement for lpr to always send the -h option to suppress
# banner printing.  Have to do special checking in case lpr is sent
# a file name that has a blank in it.  So, if an argument doesn't begin
# with a - , then put it in quotes.
#

for $i (@ARGV) {
    if ($i =~ /^\-/) {
        $arg .= " $i ";
    }
    else {
        $arg .= " \"$i\" ";
    }
}

system ("/usr/ucb/lpr.orig -h $arg");
-----------------------------------------------
-- 
William Jaynes, ITN, University of Michigan Medical Center, B1911 CFOB,
Ann Arbor, MI 48109-0704; (313) 747-2778 - jaynes@umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,bit.listserv.novell,comp.arch.storage,comp.periphs
From: hm@opus40.ix.de (Harald Milz)
Subject: Re: Server Fault Tolerant H/W Sources Sought
Organization: iX-Redaktion
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:16:51 GMT


In article <199301042217.AA07305@tuna.wang.com>, MICHAEL.WILLETT@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("Michael Willett") writes:

|> >In terms of storage needs, I would expect to need to upgrade to
|> >c1.5 GB storage in the next year (not including mirror or duplex
|> >drives), with up to 3GB needed in the longer term...Options we are
|> >looking at...:

|> Reviews, and the leading iX magazine in Germany.  You might want to read
                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^      
|> those reviews.  (Storage Technology's big ICEBERG RAID might be of interest

Hello Michael,

thanks for the "leading magazine". Actually, we are presently the only 
monthly unix-related magazine here in Germany. ;-)

We just tested the Mylex DAC 960 EISA controller which is even faster
but relies on EISA ... It supports RIAD levels 0, 1 and 5. Mylex says 
to be developing both an SBus version and RAID 3 support. 

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From: alewis@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Alonzo Lewis)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Looking to buy CNE coursework.
Summary: A friend wants to buy CNE course work from someone who has
Keywords: CNE, coursework
Date: 11 Jan 93 15:09:21 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

A friend of mine wants to buy CNE coursework from anyone who has taken the
classes in the last few months. If possible, can you send me mail directly.
Which courses should he be looking at ?
Thank you.
From: mcollins@db (Marty Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: What is LOAD MONITOR P showing???
Date: 11 Jan 93 16:52:20 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

argarg@netcom.com (Greg Argendeli) writes:
: The title says it all.  An employee put LOAD MONITOR P in the
: autoexec.ncf file, and it seems to show some extra stats (processor status).
: 
: Can anyone tell me what the numbers really mean?
: 
: (I can't find any references in the Novell 3.11 manuals).
: 
: -argarg
: 

This will show you a % breakdown of the different processes running and CPU
time they take. You must realize that running monitor in this scenario will
drain performance because of the polling process that is gaining the very
statistics you are looking at.


--
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From: similler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steve Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NetWare/Windows 3.1/NCSA Telnet
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:45:55 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University
X-Nupop-Charset: English

I am trying to get Novell NetWare, Windows 3.1 and NCSA Telent to run
together.  What is happening to me is that I am able to execute NCSA from
within Windows 3.1 but after a short period of time my screen blinks, goes
black and I have to reboot the computer.

Does anyone have any suggestion?

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From: sl840@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Just a test
Date: 6 Jan 93 10:03:59 MDT
Organization: Utah State University

This is a test for using POST command!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: Mark_Muhlestein@Novell.COM (Mark Muhlestein)
Subject: Re: Deleteing Directory Tables
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:13:56 GMT


Carl Brown makes a few basically correct comments on directory entry
allocation, some of which could use a bit of clarification:

>You're kind of right.  The way I understand it, NetWare has two "kinds" of
>disk space: file space, and what I'll call "overhead" space.  The sum of
>the file space (used to store files) and the overhead space is the total
>disk space on the server.

Close enough.  This is true of all file systems.

>The "overhead" space (my term, not NetWare's) is used to store things that
>are not strictly files, for example File Allocation Tables and (I think)
>name spaces for volumes.  The directory tables are also in "overhead"
>space.  Each directory table is 64K and can store 32 directory entries,

Actually, the directory table entries are allocated in 4K (not 64K)
blocks, each of which has 32 128-byte directory entry slots.

>which consist of the directory name, locations, etc.  When a directory is
>created and there isn't a free directory entry (and I think that sometimes
>even when there is a free entry), a new 64K directory table is created.

Each 4K directory block is constrained to hold only entries for a given
subdirectory.  This means that each subdirectory allocates a minimum of
4K of disk space.  Each file requires one entry per name space, so that,
for example, 20 files in a subdirectory on a volume with two name spaces
would require 40 slots, or 8K on disk, with room for 12 more files without
allocating another 4K directory block.

>When a directory table is emptied, it doesn't get deleted like I would
>prefer it to, and the 64K stays in "overhead" space, keeping that space
>from being used by files.

Free directory blocks are only available for allocating new directory
entries.  This is a restriction of the current file system
implementation.  In most cases it is not a problem, since the number
of files on a volume tends to grow to more than shrink.  The only way
to recover this space is to back up your volume, delete it, recreate
it, and reload it.  I would only recommend doing this if you really
trust your backup system, and you are sure you won't ever need the
space to hold file names again.

>Our local guru says that the only way that he knows to get rid of this
>problem is to delete the partition and re-install it (and I don't want to
>do that - it's a royal pain!!! :-( ) and I'm hoping that someone out there
>knows another way to do it.

Sorry, unless there is some third party utility I don't know about your
local guru is correct.

I hope this helps,

Mark_Muhlestein@novell.com  (speaking for myself only)