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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:46:00 +0000
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Comments:     Originally-From: NBO <@emvax1:NBO@ccmainz.mainz.dk>
From:         NBO@CCMAINZ.MAINZ.DK
Subject:      Re[2]: Growing Packet Receive Buffers

$DAVEE@SASB.BYU.EDU writes....
>
>
> > I have a Netware 3.11 server with a problem.  When the server is restarted,
> > the number of packet receive buffers begins growing.  One buffer is added
> > every thirty seconds until the maximum (currently 200) is reached.  Once
> > the limit is reached, the server basically stops communicating.  This began
> > after a second drive was added to the server.  Any ideas?
> >
> >
>
> This has happened to us on virtually all of our servers.  The only
> remedy we found was to up the maximum and we haven't had a problem
> since.
>

Be aware that if you have a SMC 32 bit ethernet EISA Ctrl that the driver needs
to be upgradet.



Regards Nikmolaj Brink Olsen , CNE
erik mainz a/s
internet nbo@mainz.dk
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 01:15:11 -0400
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From:         "Scott A. Jenkins" <sjenkins@INFO.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Offweek FAQ Reminder
X-To:         NOVELL@suvm.acs.syr.edu

    The FAQ (Frequently Asked Question) list for this mailing list is
automatically mailed every second Monday (this reminder is mailed on
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commonly used programs such as Pegasus Mail, Charon, as well as information
about ODI issues, and more.
    If you don't want to wait for the biweekly FAQ mailing, you may get
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FAQ Access Information:
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:45:31 CDT
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From:         Mayfield Harris <MHARRIS@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: check

There is a software from Fresh Technology called LAN VIEW, I think.  If not,
give them a call and they will be happy to help you out.  Sorry, but I dont
know the phone number either.

======================================================================
*       Mayfield Harris                      Phone: 713-527-4642     *
*       LAN Specialist/Trainer                 Fax: 713-527-6099     *
*       Rice University       Internet: mharris@ricevm1.rice.edu     *
*                                                                    *
*    "He who asks a question may be a fool, but he who never asks"   *
*                     "remains a fool forever"                       *
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:00:00 GMT
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From:         GRG1678@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK
Subject:      RE: Dos shell from windows crashes after QVTNET27 install

In my modest experience with Winqvtnet (2.6 rather than 2.7) I have found that
it *insists* on using its own packet driver glue program, pktint, rather than
the winpkt you are trying. Pktint comes with WQVT and shouls be run *before*
starting Windows. Maybe this is your problem.

Tony Sheehan
grg1678@v2.qub.ac.uk

Queen's University, Belfast
Northern Ireland
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 09:08:23 +0300
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From:         Steve Druck <VUSTEVE@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL>
Subject:      Saber Menu
X-To:         Novell LAN Interest Group <novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu>

We bought a copy of the Saber Menu Pack Version 1.0 about a year ago for our
3.11 server but only use the Saber Menu for DOS component.  We are about to
add an additional server and certainly want to buy an additional licence for
Saber Menu for DOS.

The question is whether this is not a good time to implement Saber Menu for
Windows - especially the new version 2.0 which Saber is offering.  The one
component that I would be interested in is its "INIMAN" which promises to
provide network control and management of users' INI files and allows users
to have their settings wherever they log in.

Does anyone have any good or bad experiences with INIMAN?  Any war stories?

Thanks,

Steve Druck                    Internet: VUSTEVE@WEIZMANN.WEIZMANN.AC.IL
Weizmann Institute of Science  BITnet:   VUSTEVE AT WEIZMANN
76 100 Rehovot                 FAX:      +972(8)344102
Israel                         Phone:    +972(8)342963
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:05:47 GMT+7
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From:         $DAVEE@SASB.BYU.EDU
Subject:      Re: Growing Packet Receive Buffers
X-To:         NOVELL%SUVM.BITNET@VM.BYU.EDU

> I have a Netware 3.11 server with a problem.  When the server is restarted,
> the number of packet receive buffers begins growing.  One buffer is added
> every thirty seconds until the maximum (currently 200) is reached.  Once
> the limit is reached, the server basically stops communicating.  This began
> after a second drive was added to the server.  Any ideas?
>
>

This has happened to us on virtually all of our servers.  The only
remedy we found was to up the maximum and we haven't had a problem
since.



*********************************
*****  David Edmunds        *****
*****  Brigham Young Univ   *****
*****  SAS Computer Support *****
*****  $DAVEE@sasb.byu.edu  *****
*********************************
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:54:00 LCL
Reply-To:     Novell LAN Interest Group <NOVELL@SUVM.BITNET>
From:         "(RRAWSON)" <RRAWSON@NOVELL.COM>
Subject:      Re: changing the block size o

Unfortunately, yes. To change the block size of a volume, you must backup,
delete, recreate, then restore.

BTW - when you change the block size you increase the memory required to
cache the FATs. Therefore remember the formula:

4Mb minimum (no matter what the formula evaluates to)

M=.023 x VolSizeInMB/BlockSize (for DOS Name space only) or
M=.032 x VolSizeInMB/BlockSize (for volumes with added name space)


For example, if you have a 600Mb disk/4K Blox & the Unix name space loaded:

M=0.32 x 600 / 4
M=4.8 Mb memory MINIMUM

 (personal suggestion): It's a good idea to add 2-4Mb extra to the minimum

Before you embark on this journey, make sure you'll have enough memory.

Rob Rawson
Novell NYC
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 09:58:24 CDT
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From:         Mayfield Harris <MHARRIS@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Disk Usage Statistics
              2 Sep 1992 07:49:28 -400 from <weber@RHRK.UNI-KL.DE>

The best program to use is Cheyenne Utilities from Cheyenne Software.
It gives you reports from your server like;

File Server's reports
Users
Groups
Security Equivalences
Trustee Assignments
Disk Usage
Login Scripts
Accounting Information
Salvageable Files

and much much more.  This is only a few things that it does.  The address and
phone number is listed below;

Cheyenne Software, Inc.
55 Bryant Ave
Roslyn, NY  11576

800-243-9462


Hope this helps .............

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*       Mayfield Harris                      Phone: 713-527-4642     *
*       LAN Specialist/Trainer                 Fax: 713-527-6099     *
*       Rice University       Internet: mharris@ricevm1.rice.edu     *
*                                                                    *
*    "He who asks a question may be a fool, but he who never asks"   *
*                     "remains a fool forever"                       *
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 12:52:00 LCL
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From:         "(Dave Kearns)" <DKEARNS.TCC@KLAVEN.TCI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Internet Services
X-To:         "(NOVELL)" <NOVELL@suvm.acs.syr.edu>

<stuff removed>

>I would also like to see a location for the 3rd party directories on
>Compu$erve.

Novell's (and every other forum operator's) contract with Compuserve
precludes making available 3rd party uploads thru any other means,
including an FTP server or via the NSE Professional edition.

-dave
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From: schneide@chx400.switch.ch (Marcel Schneider)
Subject: Re: 3c507 drivers
Organization: SWITCH
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 08:18:52 GMT

ZAMBRANO@CSSC.NEWSCHOOL.EDU (Raul Zambrano) writes:
: Does anybody know where can I find (ftp, bbs) the latest version of
: the lan drivers for the 3c507 ethernet cards?
: Thanks in advance
: 
: Raul Zambrano
: New School
: New York

Check ftp.3com.com, directory adapters/drivers.

Marcel Schneider@SWITCH
From: medici@dorm.rutgers.edu (Mark Medici)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.novell
Subject: Re: mac password problems
Date: 24 Aug 92 02:46:45 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Netman@PHYSLOG-PO.PHYSLOG.UIOWA.EDU writes:
| From: COURTNEY@MCCADA.MAUICC.HAWAII.EDU
| >             From time to time, I have seen msgs posted re: macs
| >forgetting their passwords. We are also experiencing this. I don't ever
| >recall seeing a resolution to this problem. If there is one, I would
| >REALLY appreciate hearing about it.
|
|       I've determined two problems with Mac passwords here:
| 
|       ONE:  If the user's password expires (we originally had ours set
|       to force a new password every 60 days) the Mac software does not
|       notify or prompt the Mac user.  They are quietly allowed their
|       grace logins and then are locked out of the system.  The
|       solution: don't force periodic password changes for the
|       Mac-heads.  (Check under User Info in SYSCON...)

There is a Novell patch specificly to address this problem:
AFPFIX3.NLM.  I quote:

        .... This patch works with v3.0 and v3.01 of NetWare for
        Macintosh.  It allows the Macintosh to receive a notification
        when a grace login is used.  The v2.11 Notify init that comes
        with the NetWare for Macintosh utilities must be installed in
        the Macintosh workstation for this support. ...

AFPFIX3 is located on NetWire, and should also be on
ftp.IS.Sandy.Novell.COM.

A word of caution:  I still see ocasions where the NOTIFY init causes
significant slow-downs on the Macintosh workstation.  This is in
spite of using the currently available version on NetWire, that
supposedly fixed just this problem.

-- 
_________________________________________________________________________
RUCS     | Mark A. Medici, Systems Programmer III, User Services Division
User     | Rutgers University Computing Services, New Brunswick, NJ 08903
Services | [medici@gandalf.rutgers.edu]                    [908-932-2412]
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 17:22:56 EST
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From:         JAY SISSOM <JSISSOM@INDYCMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Expressview SNMP

Has anyone used Expressview SNMP manager by David Systems?  I have
installed it and am thinking about mailing it back.  I spent a couple of
hours creating our network on the system, then got a Windows UAE type
error.  Now there is a device that I cannot delete that keeps generating
alerts.  Technical support says the only way to fix it is to delete the
whole network and create it again.  If I have to do this, I am going
to send the package back.

This package does not support private extensions to the standard MIB
very well.  You have to memorize the object number (which can be
very long) to access the data.  You cannot access objects by name.
David Systems tech support said that they may provide updates for
other vendor's private extensions at some additional cost in the
future.  It sounds kind of like vapor ware to me.

Does anyone know of a good SNMP manager station?

Thanks
Jay Sissom
Indiana University Department of Medicine
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From: gretchen@cco.caltech.edu (Gretchen Millendore)
Subject: Changing User Name
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 21:13:52 GMT

One of my users just got married, and I would like to change her login name
for her (we use last names).  I have Netware NFS set up, and I am worried
that this or perhaps something else I am not thinking of will be affected
negatively if I just go in and change the name and rename her personal
directory.  Please let me know if I'm about to cause trouble.  :)
Thanks in advance.

Gretchen Mullendore
First Quadrant Corp
gretchen@cco.caltech.edu

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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 12:31:55 EDT
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From:         Brett Warthen <BRETT@INFINITE.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM>
Subject:      RE: Print Job Configs
X-To:         NOVELL%SUVM.BITNET@pucc.Princeton.EDU

FORWARDED MESSAGE from Robin Cannon (MAIL @ CSERVE
{INTERNET:CANNON%OBERLIN.BITNET@suvm.acs.syr.EDU}) at 8/25/92 9:54a

From: Robin Cannon <CANNON%OBERLIN.BITNET@suvm.acs.syr.EDU>
Subject:      Print Job Configs
To: Multiple recipients of list NOVELL <NOVELL@suvm.acs.syr.EDU>

Does anyone know of a way to allow users to share a standard print job
configuration file.  I am creating student accounts in large quantities and
do not want to have to copy the print job configuration to every single
account!!!

Does anyone know of a short cut?

Any help would be appreciated!

Robin Cannon
***** NOTES from Brett Warthen (BRETT @ INFINITE) at 8/25/92 11:09a
You might want to consider creating a global PrintCon configuration.  Just
go into PrintCon and setup the jobs that you want everyone to use
(including the default).  Copy the PrintCon.Dat from your SYS:MAIL
directory (SUPERVISOR's is SYS:MAIL\1) in the SYS:PUBLIC directory, or
another directory in everyone's search path.

Make sure that you leave the "banner name" field blank in the job
configurations that you create, as otherwise this user's name will appear
on everyone's banner page.

Flag the NetWare printing utilities to use search mode 5:

   SMODE NPRINT.EXE 5
   SMODE CAPTURE.EXE 5
   SMODE PRINTCON.EXE 5

(To go back to individual printcon.dat's you can re-issue the above
commands, changing 5 to 0.)

Next, delete any PrintCon.Dat files remaining in user directories (a
Printcon.Dat in a user mailbox will override the public copy).

Good luck!

- Brett (Infinite Technologies)
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:38:00 LCL
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From:         RRAWSON <RRAWSON@NOVELL.COM>
Subject:      Re: NetWare for Mac >100-user
X-To:         Gary Dobbins <NOVELL@suvm.acs.syr.EDU>

A 200 User NetWare for Macintosh v3.011 is shipping today...
p/n 883-001897-002 (list price is $2995.00)
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From:         Joe Doupnik <JRD@USU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: ODI drivers

>Hi,
>Many messages about ODI drivers are sent. I tried to write a ODI driver
>for an network adapter. but I could not! ODI drivers are written by the
>network adapter vendors. You have to know much about ODI specification.
>Novell has a package to write ODI drivers for adapters. But it is not
>free. It's price more or less $7,500. It is called IMDP (Independent
>Manufacturers Development Program). No source available on nets about ODI.
>Novell has another program call PDP (Professional Developers Program). It's
>aim is to write programs for protocol stacks. And suprisingly it is free.
>So looking for a driver source is meaningless. A student can not by IMDP.
>Sincerely,
>Selcuk TURAN
---------------------
        Writing an ODI board driver is similar to doing the same job for
a Packet Driver, maybe a little more. The documentation is good and now
available free across the networks. However, one small piece of code is
needed from Novell: the MSM to do the frame encod-/decod-ing for a
particular kind of frame. I don't know what the rules are on that one to
obtain a .OBJ file at low cost for non-commerical use but the PDP (see
above) should have some encouraging words.
        The full development kit does have example drivers in source form
to help vendors get going quickly, and it does cost a lot. I would think
the MSM ought to be free in the same way as the IPX.OBJ component is free
to licensed sites, but the marketing folks probably have other ideas on
the matter. To be fair I think they may be concerned with maintaining high
quality in all ODI drivers seen by the general public.
        The other end of things, the protocol stack, is opened wide for
everyone. The manuals are on the Internet now, example code is in file
msnpdi.asm on netlab2.usu.edu, cd kermit, and that's all that one needs
(except time, patience, and perseverance).
        Joe D.
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:30:52 HST
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From:         COURTNEY@MCCADA.MAUICC.HAWAII.EDU
Subject:      Date: Mon 31 Aug 92 15:31:40-HST
X-To:         novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu

From: MENEHUNE DELUXE <COURTNEY@MCCADA>
To: novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu
Subject: Netware Accounting

Aloha,
      I have a few questions regarding Netware accounting that I would
appreciate answers/opinions.

1. What types of things do you charge for?
2. How did you determine the amount to charge?
3. Is the entire process difficult to manage?
4. Do you have a separate tool for print accounting? If so, what?


Thanks,
      bc  -  courtney@mccada.mauicc.hawaii.edu
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 11:41:15 MDT
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From:         Rich Brown <rbrown@DIJKSTRA.UNIVNORTHCO.EDU>
Subject: Re: charon 4.0 lpr problems
X-To:         NOVELL@SUVM.SYR.EDU

Quoted text........................................
	Help!

	I just downloaded charon 4.0
	,<deleted stuff>... but the LPR spooling keeps giving me a
	warning about the spool dir
	<more deleted>.......
	Can anyone tell me what I've done wrong? The charon print server is a member of
	the charon gropup, and the charon group has full access to the directory
	sys:home/charon and all its subdirectories.

	<more deleted>.....

	|  Hamish Marson   <h.marson@waikato.ac.nz>
End of Quoted text....................................

I, too am interested in talking ot folks who have gotten Charon 4.0
running.  I messed with 2.0 a little before (with LOTS of help from
you all on the list) but abandoned it for 4.0.  So far I can't get
4.0 running -- I'm sure it's some stupid, little thing that I am
doing wrong that maybe someone else has already figured out.

Here are my results so far .....

After sitting down with the system adminitrator for the uinx stuff for
several hours we have configured the setup files and managed to get
Charon to run without errors, but:

1)  We can't figure out how to send files to Charon from unix yet -
sending to the charon IP address gets lost - never goes anywhere.  This
isn't something we had figured out yet in 2.0a yet, either, and is not
specifically a 4.0 "problem" like the following.  I would still love
to hear how it's done, though.

2) The server status line in Charon says "Connection - failed"

3) Sending jobs via the outgoing queue we find that the status
is "ready, waiting for print server (Charon, we presume).

4) If we run Charon from a disk it doesn't show up as a user on
the Novell server.  If we run it from a novell directory (using
loader) it appears.  (Still doesn't service jobs, though)

5) In pconsole we never get a "status/control" option for the
print server named charon, indicating that Novell thinks it is
"down"

It feels like we are ever soooooo close, but must be missing
something somewhere.

Rich Brown
rbrown@dijkstra.univnorthco.edu
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From:         The Radio Gnome <V2002A@TEMPLEVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Novell Netware Viruses
X-To:         virus-l@lehigh.edu

Hi,

     Can anyone comment further or elaborate on this?

    (Background, the author is in the midst of a discussion with a
friend, "Joe", at a trade show.  Joe was describing how his grandson
had gotten caught up in the underground world of hackers and virus
writers...)

Excerpt from column by Nelson King in "Delaware Valley Computer User"
September 1992   Vol 3 No 3
======================================================================
     "Finally he turned to destructive computing.  We think it was
somebody he communicated with on the bulletin boards who got him
started.  It was a challenge:  Come up with a program that would infect
Novell networks and corrupt the bindery [the heart of that system].  My
grandson was bright enough to concoct a new kind of virus and naive
enough not to question its consequences.  His contact on the BBS gave
him technical help, but it was my grandson who put the scheme into
motion.  It turned out his BBS contact worked for a software company-
a competitor to Novell, we believe, but we never did find out for sure.

    "That virus proved to be something of a breakthrough.  So far the
damage is estimated in the tens of millions.  But nobody is talking
about it, because the virus is so subtle it looks like something the
network does to itself."

==============END EXCERPT==========================================

     This grandson eventually ended up in jail.

     Does this virus have a name?  Do NETSCAN and F-Prot look for it?
Inquiring (and worried) sysadms want to know.

"Log - It's better than bad, it's good!" - Ren and Stimpy

Andrew Wing - CNE          Lead Applications Analyst
                           Temple University Computer Services
                           v2002a%templevm.bitnet@pucc.princeton.edu
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