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glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke) writes:

>Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa
>Path: glocke
>From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gordon Locke  )
>Subject: Re: Wow! vs. Kashka?
>Message-ID: <1992Oct12.204654.13161@morgan.ucs.mun.ca>
>Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
>References: <1992Oct12.170829.3507@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
>Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 20:46:54 GMT

>In article <1992Oct12.170829.3507@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik) writes:
>>	The lyrics to "Wow!" contain a line which *sounds* like: "He's too
>>busy hitting the Vaseline".  If this is really how the lyrics go, am I
>>mistaken in assuming that Kate is establishing the "He" as a--to be
>>technical--homosexual?  If so, I wish she could have found a more appealing
>>turn of phrase.  It borders on the offensive, were I the easily offended
>>type.

>	Yes, I understand the song to be referring to homosexuals, but
>in a positive way.  Don't forget, the actor's "Vaseline-hitting" is why
> 
>"he'll never make the Sweeney (movie theatre?) / Or be that movie queen".  I've always taken this to refer to discSrimination in the acting business.
 
Isn't Sweeney cockney or rhyming slang for police or CID. I seem to remember some old
british cop show called 'The Sweeney" with dennis waterman. Anyway that 
should strengthen your argument as I don't believe the police, at that time
  
at least, let homosexuals into the force. hence never make the sweeney.


-- 
Mark Craddock                      |  'University kills intellect by
Department of Engineering Science  |     degrees'   Andrew Davies
University of Auckland             |
New Zealand                        |   craddock@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz         

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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:37:15 -0400
From: 72210.2035@CompuServe.COM (Mike Weaver)
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Hi - this is test message - are we reaching the Kate Bush digest?


x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:15:05 EDT
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:08:42 -0400
From: markp@serpens.sbi.com (Mark P*)
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Subject: Sweeney
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This sweeney business. I`ve seen a dozen or so
posts on this, but no-one has really covered it
in detail, so there is still confusion.

Just to put in my two ha'pence worth.

1. Yes there was a person called Sweeney Todd,
who used to run a barber-shop in Fleet street
in Olde London towne. This fellow was engaged 
in the (un)savory business of turning his customers
into pie-filling. This is not the Sweeney referred to.

2. Yes there was a Musical called 'Sweeney Todd, the
demon barber of Fleet street'. This is not the
Sweeney referred to.

3. London cockney rhyming slang has:
Sweeney Todd=Flying Squad
in the same way that: 
Apples & Pears=Stairs
Frog & Toad=Road
etc.
The Flying Squad are a group within Scotland Yard
who deal with dangerous crimes (I may be slightly off
here and I'm not going to go into what Scotland Yard is.)

4. Sweeney Todd=Flying Squad is such a well-known euphemism
in London that a major Police TV series in the UK, about the 
Flying Squad was called 'The Sweeney'. Very macho.
This is the Sweeney referred to.

Case closed? no...I thought not. :)
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:05:01 -0400
From: john@tessi.com (John Zimmer)
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Subject: Re: Kate references in Happy interviews
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Vickie writes:

>I'm John D. Liberto [?] and you're hearing Echoes.

That's John Diliberto, formerly of _Totally Wired_. He's also interviewed 
KaTe.


_____________________________________________________________
John Zimmer                                    john@tessi.com

        "The happy phantom has no right to bitch."
_____________________________________________________________
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Mon, 12 Oct 1992 13:46:16 EDT
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:59:29 -0400
From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
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	Recently I posted an article clarifying the lyrics of "Running Up
That Hill" for someone who had misheard them. I also provided a sort of very
broad interpretation that encapsulated my view of the song.
	I don't recall the exact wording of my article, but I hope I made it
clear that sexual pleasure was only one facet of the song's meaning.  And,
in fact, I do believe most of the imagery ("running up that hill," even)
implies a sexual or at least sensual interpretation.  There are many ways of
approaching the lyrics, some platonic, some romantic...the point is, you and
I may have totally different views about the song and I hope you didn't
totally underestimate my cognizance of that fact.
	My idea of the song is not an esoteric view.  And, I might add that
I ordinarily detest sexual/Freudian interpretation, but in this case I feel
it's quite justified.
	But think what you like; true intellectuals do anyway.

	--Andrew D. Simchik
	The U of R is not me; my views are not a part of it.
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Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:52:25 -0400
From: siemerin@cs.utwente.nl (Ben Siemerink)
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Message-ID: <9210141744.AA05464@hermes.cs.utwente.nl>
Subject: Re: Tori talk
Keywords: own newsgroups; Tori Amos; fed up
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Hi Folks!


Scott Lillis wonders:
> I'm just curious why I see several postings about Tori Amos in the love
> hounds digest.  

There are a couple of KT fans that like Tori Amos as well and they think
that everyone on Love-Hounds do so.

Unfortunately for all the others, that's not the case. I myself don't like
Tori Amos AT ALL, but every day I have to go through a list of more than 16
articles of which only four are slightly related to KT.  Actually it's not
only Tori Amos, but Peter Gabriel, Utah Saints (I still don't know what this,
not that I care or so), C Side Records and the whole lot more. Yes, I'm quite
pissed off of all this.

I plead before to stop this but that didn't help.  So, I repeat it once more:

      ____________________________________________________________________
     |                                                                    |
     |     WHY DON'T YOU FOLKS GO AFTER YOUR OWN TORI AMOS NEWSGROUP?     |
     |                                                                    |
     |          Or are you with so few that you can't create one?         |
     |____________________________________________________________________|


To give an impression: I don't start talking about all those concert dates,
concert times, latest changes in the concert times, availability of concert
tickets of (The) Cure, Talk Talk, Pink Floyd or James, or do I?


Ben, who's really fed up with it.
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x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:13:36 EDT
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:12:51 -0400
From: nrc@cbemf.att.com (Neal R Caldwell, Ii)
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Subject: (no subject given!)

Vickie here. I'm weird, but I'm not crazy. Lest anyone think
that I was lying through my teeth when I posted to gaffa about   
the Psychowelders, and the fact that anyone other than me even
knew who they were:

 --------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 19:00:37 EDT
From: woj@remus.rutgers.edu
To: ecto@ns1.rutgers.edu
Subject: rumble guppies

vickie asked me to describe the psychowelders cd when i got it. well,
i did, so i am. for starters, two comparisons: caterwaul and hetch
hetchy. rhondda francis's vocals are more understandable than betsy
martin's though. and the music is a little less frenetic than cater-
waul. however, the bass playing is strongly similar to linda from 
hetch hetchy - a kinda rolling and deep that strikes a chord in my
heart. i think i mentioned the phrase "in your face rock" before. 
that is not quite accurate as psychowelders are not a "classic rock"
band by any stretch of the imagination. i was trying to capture the
feel of their music which *needs* to be played loudly. musically
though, it is subliminal and intricate - it feels like a woven cloth
in your ears (um, i don't think i can explain that, but i can imagine
the band standing before a loom while producing this record).

in a word, it's excellent. if you like caterwaul or hetch hetchy, this
is a definite must-buy for you. 

it can be ordered from her directly (for $10) by sending a note to:

	rhondda francis
	3815 walnut #1 south
	kc, mo 64111

if you want to use a credit card (mc/visa), call 800/432-7639 (though
it costs $12 plus postage this way).

incidentially, the cd is a collector's edition with a homemade insert
that is absolutely gorgeous. 

woj
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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 08:00:27 -0400
From: uli@intellektik.informatik.th-darmstadt.de (Ulrich Grepel)
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Subject: Re: another day
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In article <921008212645_555063.0_CHF125-1@CompuServe.COM> you write:
.. about Another Day

|> 
|> My impression was always that the album was Unknown Soldier.
|> 
No, definitely not, on Unknown Soldier there is 'You (the game part II)',
another Kateish song (background vocals, almost duet).
My store says that it is not availlable on CD (unfortunately).
I don't know on what album 'Another Day' can be found.

Uli

P.S.: Why do I read '... part III' so often when 'You...' is meant?
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:53:54 EDT
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 20:14:48 -0400
From: drk@leland.Stanford.EDU (David Koehler)
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Subject: Odds and Sods
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There have been passing remarks in r.m.g. about a project called
"Odds and Sods" or something like that.  What gives?
Is this a record of unreleased stuff, and has Kate really cancelled
the project?  :-(

Inquiring minds want to...    etc. etc.

Cheers,
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      David Koehler              |   They've all got frightened eyes,
    Stanford University          |   Saying `Leave me alone,
  drk@leland.stanford.edu        |   I'm perfectly safe here inside.
                                 |   Please don't surprise me.'   -- K. Bush
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:44:10 -0400
Message-ID: <9210092043.AA00988@whistler.sfu.ca>
From: Fiona_McQuarrie@sfu.ca
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Subject: We All Buried Paul!
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

OK, Eric, thanks for the clarification - sorry if I was a bit harsh on you,
but at times there does seem to be a distinct lack of levity on this board
and
one never knows....

Now shall we discuss who the walrus *really* was? ;)
Fiona McQuarrie
fmcquarr@sfu.ca

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x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:11:30 EDT
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:10:31 -0400
From: v115p8d6@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (I have a cunning plan...)
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Hello,

how would one get on the kate bush mailing list?


x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:19:30 EDT
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 05:19:03 -0400
From: "N. Richard Caldwell" <nrc@bsbbs.columbus.oh.us>
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: Caterwaul (and Psychowelders)
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vickie@pilot.njin.net (Vickie Mapes) in
  <Oct.2.22.53.08.1992.8479@pilot.njin.net> writes:
> 
> [Caterwaul's _The Nature of Things_] is out of print, so I'm happy 
> for you that you found it.

Me too!   I got a note back from them quite some time ago with a
list of stuff that they had available for mail order.  I posted
the list here and ordered pretty much one of everything.  

> There's another group that Caterwaul/Hetch Hetchy/Arson Garden fans
> might want to check out. They're called Psychowelders and they've
> just released a CD (their first, thought they've been releasing
> tapes of their music for years) called _Inertia_.

Sounds like it might be worth $10 to try out, especially if I'm
not going to get a Caterwaul fix anytime soon :-(.  Thanks for the
tip.


"Don't drive too slowly."         Richard Caldwell
                                  The Big Sky BBS (+1 614 864 1198)
                                  {n8emr|nstar}!bluemoon!bsbbs!nrc
                                  nrc@bsbbs.Columbus.OH.US
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:37:37 EDT
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 00:35:47 -0400
From: vickie@pilot.njin.net (Vickie Mapes)
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I heard from my Dad (he watches Comedy Central too) that Tori is
*supposed* to be on Night After Night (Allan Havey) some time
this week, I have no idea if she will or not, but I know that I'm
going to watch the show all week and tape it *if* she is on.  Has
anyone else heard this or am I the only one??  This is a rumour
of sorts so I apologize in advance if she's not on.  As I said
I'll be taping it if she's on, if someone wants a copy (assuming
she is on) email me, and I'll try to work something out.

Kevin
miharki@indsvax1  OR
miharki@indsvax1.indstate.edu

"...keep circulating the tapes..."
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:49:18 EDT
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:48:04 -0400
From: rohrer@utkvx3.utk.edu (Rohrer, Cheryl Diane)
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Subject: Re: Who sings "Crucify Myself"?
Message-ID: <12OCT199221475754@utkvx3.utk.edu>
Summary: Looking for female singer who sings "Crucify Myself"
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In article <1992Oct12.125355.7627@dxcern.cern.ch>, lishka@dxcern.cern.ch (Christopher Lishka) writes...
>[I don't read this particular newsgroup anymore (not enough time in
>the day!), but I have found that you folks usually have similar tastes
>in music to my own.  Therefore, I pose this question to you, as I am
>not sure who else to ask.  Please reply via email to:
> 
>		lishka@dxcern.cern.ch.
> 
>I will be happy to send replies to my request to anyone who asks!]
> 
>On my favorite radio station, Colour 3 out of Lausanne, Switzerland,
>they were playing a song by a woman who reminded me of Kate Bush.  As
>I am not a native French speaker, and because the French DJ's tend to
>buture English names (they pronounce English like I pronounce
>French!), I never found out who the artist was. The *only* thing I can
>remember is a line from the chorus which goes:
> 
>		Why must I crucify myself
> 
>I know I am being a bit vague here, but does anyone out there know who
>sings this song, and what the song is called?  I am fairly sure this
>song came out in the last nine months.
> 
>Thanks in advance to all who reply!
>						.oO Chris Oo.
> 
>-- 
>                                                           Christopher Lishka
> Never drive a car when you're dead...			   PPE Division, CERN
>				-- Tom Waits		  lishka@dxcern.cern.ch
>							     vxaluw::lishka
The woman is Tori Amos.  The song is crucify and the album is "Little
Earthquakes"
cheryl D. rohrer
x-gateway: rodan.UU.NET from love-hounds to rec.music.gaffa; Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:04:36 EDT
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:02:07 -0400
From: Soaf1!wb3ffv!aplcen!jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu!pablo@uunet.uu.net (Pablo A Iglesias)
Errors-To: Love-Hounds-request@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Re: Running Up That Hill Lyrics.
Message-ID: <1992Oct8.115931.1570@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Newsgroups: rec.music.gaffa

In article <ee=W02w6248v01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll) writes:
>
>Good song, but the lyrics confuse me.
>
>
>What does she mean by: 
> 
>  If I only could, 
>  I'd make a deal with God, 
>  and get him to slap our faces.

chuckle chuckle.

it's "swap places"

>
>?
>
>
>Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
>The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.
>
>


-- 
Pablo
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: zuniga@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Ralph Zuniga (FREAC/CAR))
Subject: Re: Godflesh, FLA sample
Organization: Florida State University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 23:22:38 GMT

In article <70256@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt5986c@prism.gatech.EDU (John P. Arnzen) writes:
>
>does anybody out there know the source of the hiphop sample that Godflesh
>uses at the beginning of the song 'Pure'.  i think Front Line Assembly
>uses it at the beginning of one of their songs on TACTICAL NEURAL IMPLANT,
>track 6 i believe [i've forgotten the title of the song right now].
>
>thanks in advance--
>
>john p arnzen
>gt5986c@prism.gatech.edu
>

I'm not sure but it sounds like James Brown to me.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: joe@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Question Authority)
Subject: Re:  Samples (Was TKK Quote)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 21:24:32 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Oct9.130836.12665@nmsu.edu> rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good) writes:
>Nathan.Bowen <Nathan.Bowen@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes
>>  "I'm not scared."  "Well, what are you?"  from Skinny Puppy.. I was quite
>> surprised the first time I watched "Communion."  I'd be interested in hearing
...
>> the sources of ANY samples that anyone can think of... And, for any artist

	If youu or anyone else would be interested, I have a list of Puppy samples which includes where a lot of them came from.  If you all want, I can post it or I can just mail it if a few of you want it.

		Post or mail and let me know.

				jOe.

	"Some people should die, that's just unconcious knowledge"
				-- Perry Ferrel.
From: b92fdu@tdb.uu.se (Fredrik Duprez)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Review: Front Line Assembly "The Blade"
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:43:50 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Brian M Coan (coan@griffin) wrote:
: Yo! Pete Ashdown did a review of "The Blade". Yo, my CD5 only
: has two Blade mixes, plus "Re-Animate" (a good song) and 
: "Laughing Pain" (one of FLA's best, IMHO)...why does yours
: have so many extras?
: 
: Is that a European release??
: 
: --
: Brian M Coan
: coan@emba.uvm.edu
: --
Yes, the 8 song version of the Blade is the european release.

/fREDRIK * b92fdu@tdb.uu.se

...control your mind, persecute the fools left behind...
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: negativquestions
Keywords: logic gap
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:11:36 GMT
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.

In article <1992Oct16.034535.19335@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> bradleyt@spot.Colorado.EDU (Todd Bradley) writes:

>Just as a gesture, an action, or
>a word can be an insult, so can a person.  Additionally,
>insults have to work on something or someone.  For example,
>a question could be an insult to your intelligence.  Because
>David is so reluctant to come out of the closet, he is an
>insult to the gay community.
>

    How did you know he was gay in the first place?  Did he mention
  that he was a closet-gay in some magazine? (Hence destroying the
 notion of being closet anymore?)   Please re-elaborate.

                                                             K!z!K
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: exby@pogo.Colorado.EDU (|J| Exby)
Subject: Re: SWANS "COP" on CD?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:02:57 GMT

IRI7@MUSICB.MCGILL.CA (IRI7000) writes:

>I've heard that Swans's second album "Cop" has been re-released
>somewher on CD. Does anyone have any info on that? (name of label,
>catalogue number, etc...)

I got my copy of this COP release about two weeks ago, for $21
at Wax Trax in boulder....  
label = Young Gods Records
cata number = kcc001CD  i guess.
it included the "I crawled" ep  with tracks:
 i crawled / raping a slave / young god / this is mine.

also re-released was a single cd of "greed/Holy Money" without all
the 12" remix versions that were on the original pairs of cds.

>By the way, Swans have a new official auto-bootleg out. It's called
>"Real love" (released in England) and just like "Public Castration is
>a Good Idea" it documents the 1986 tour supporting the albums "Greed"
>and "Holy Money". However, the material on this new release in different

I've had my CD of this for too many months to count.  again, all
excellent live slow brutal slayings.  worth the cash.
I doubt if "Public Castration" will ever make it to cd.  (sigh)

::j