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From: jrobie@netmbx.netmbx.de (Jonathan Robie)
Subject: Re: What makes dances grow ? (Was  Re: Dance demos (was Re: Scottish Country Demo Dancing))
Organization: netmbx, Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:52:54 GMT

donl@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Don B. Larson) writes:


>When selecting a facility, look for the correct type of
>floor for your dance form ( most forms require a "giving" smooth floor --
>wood or a properly maintained Formica/linoleum over wood floor.  Do not 
>accept concrete or Formica/linoleum over concrete.  Some gymnasium floors
>are built over an airspace so the floor has a sprung feel.)

>Lower priority items:
>1) Look for rooms with good ventilation and clean, dust and smoke free air. 
>Some dance halls can be very dusty.  

>2) Find a hall that does not get too hot.  

>3) Water should be readily available.


A few more high priority items (yes, I am learning the hard way...)

1.  Acoustics.  If you can not be heard clearly when the band is playing
and people are dancing, you are going to have a hard time calling or teaching.

2.  Bathrooms.  Take a look at them to make sure they are OK.  Is there
toilet paper?  (This is even more important for women than for men...)
I once held dances in a school that had no toilet paper in the bathrooms.
The first night I was not prepared.


Are there other things that go on the basic list?


Jonathan
-- 
Jonathan

===========================================================================

From: donl@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Don B. Larson)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:50:12 GMT
Subject: Re: What makes dances grow ? (Was  Re: Dance demos (was Re: Scottish Country Demo Dancing))
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing


In response to "What makes dances grow?"...


I believe that the quality of the facility your dances in influences
attendance.  

When selecting a facility, look for the correct type of
floor for your dance form ( most forms require a "giving" smooth floor --
wood or a properly maintained Formica/linoleum over wood floor.  Do not 
accept concrete or Formica/linoleum over concrete.  Some gymnasium floors
are built over an airspace so the floor has a sprung feel.)

Lower priority items:
1) Look for rooms with good ventilation and clean, dust and smoke free air. 
Some dance halls can be very dusty.  

2) Find a hall that does not get too hot.  

3) Water should be readily available.







Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: When are the *AUDITIONS* for the San Francisco Ethnic Dance Festival?
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Distribution: usa
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:26:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.152536.21633@macc.wisc.edu>, nmrdb@vms.macc.wisc.edu (BEVERLY SEAVEY) writes:
>The San Francisco Ethnic Dance Festival happens sometime in June.  A friend
>of mine happened to be in San Francisco sometime in January, and got to 
>attend the auditions for the festival.  She said it was better than the actual
>festival in some ways in that you got to see *all* the groups, and the
>cost was 1$/day for each of 3 days, and the auditions were in full costume.
>Does anyone know the dates and place for the auditions this year? I would
>like to try to see them. 

They're January 29, 30, and 31, at McKenna Theater on the campus of
San Francisco State University.  I can provide directions by email if
anyone needs them.

I'd be inclined to agree that the auditions are more fun than the actual
festival, although both have their good points.  On the major plus side
for the auditions, they cost LOTS less than the festival -- it does
cost to get in, but it's on the order of a couple of bucks, as opposed
to something like $18 per ticket for the actual festival.  You get to
see the great troupes alongside the, uhhh, not-so-great troupes, which
provides some interesting contrast, and everybody extracts the high
points of their show for the ten-minute spot, which usually makes for
good watching.  They are, indeed, in full costume, and almost invariably
have full live musical accompaniment as well.  Highly recommended.

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From: rost@tecrus.dec.com (My name is Brian Rost)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Gator Bait: Cajun/Zydeco, Boson Area
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:59:51 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


The Boston-based Cajun/Zydeco band GATOR BAIT has been playing to enthusiastic
audiences everywhere they go: the supermarket, bowling alleys, liquor stores. 
We've even been doing well at some of our performances!  Just to keep people on
their toes, we've thrown in some new tunes amongst the Cajun and zydeco
numbers, including one from Indonesia and some hot Mexican polkas.  C'mon down
and find out why we're know as the slowest moving band in show business!

    The members of Gator Bait:

	-->Mickey Bones (drums, frottoir, vocals)
	Famed worldwide for his ability to yodel in five extinct languages.

	-->Joe Pete Wetherbee (guitar,vocals)
	Author of thesis on medicinal qualities of airplane glue.

	-->Brian Rost (bass, vocals)
	Currently on probation for posession of lawn darts.

	-->Dan Kellar (violin)
    	Former champion mud-wrestler and gourmet chef.
		
	-->Carol DeFeciani (accordion, vocals)
	Winner of Nobel Prize in music for not playing "Lady of Spain".

    Upcoming dates:

	Saturday Nov. 21	Portsmouth Brewery, Portsmouth, NH

	Wednesday Nov. 25	Plough and Stars, Mass. Ave., Cambridge,MA

	Wednesday Dec. 2	Plough and Stars, Mass. Ave., Cambridge,MA

	Friday and Saturday,
    	Dec. 11 and 12		Press Room, Portsmouth, NH
	
	Wednesday Dec. 16	Plough and Stars, Mass. Ave., Cambridge,MA

    E-mail for directions, bad jokes and blissful ignorance.
	
					Brian Rost @tecrus.enet.dec.com

					508-568-6115

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	*						   *
	*  The above does not reflect the opinions of	   *
	*  my employer.					   *
	*						   *
	*  If music is outlawed, only outlaws will be      *	   
	*  musicians.					   *
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From: pearl@spectacle.sw.stratus.com (Dan Pearl)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: Cassette Tape Prices?  (Our Record Player Has Died)
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:52:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering
NNTP-Posting-Host: spectacle.sw.stratus.com

In article <10081@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw+@pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
>To make life easy for the "record runner", I've
>recorded only 1 song per cassette (i.e.: I've recorded the same song on both
>sides of each cassette).  

Of course the tradeoff is tape usage and portability.  Our group has
an index for tapes with two dances per tape (one per side).  Having numerically
ordered tapes makes it easy to file and spot missing tapes.

>What I've come to you today for is information on cassette tapes.  I need
>to know what the best prices are today for short duration tapes.  Also,
>prices on cassette boxes and carrying cases/storage boxes would be helpful
>as well.

You'll use mostly music-grade C-8's with some C-10's and maybe a few
C-12's.  They are available for about 80 cents a piece (in quantity).

We use cassette cases that stores 30 tapes in jewel boxes and 60 tapes
without the jewel boxes.  To get maximum storage density, we don't use
the boxes; we haven't missed them.

We got the cases at the local Musicland.  They should be readily available.
-- 
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From: tjw+@pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing,rec.music.folk,pitt.general,pgh.general
Subject: Events by Calliope: The Pittsburgh Folk Music Society  NOV 1992
Keywords: CONCERT
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:30:54 GMT
Followup-To: rec.folk-dancing
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


If you are going to be in Pittsburgh on Nov 18/20 and/or 21st read on!

Calliope will be sponsoring the following folk events:

        Nov 18: Calliope Open House.  Performing groups, song and dance!
                7 PM 219 Fisk Street Lawrenceville Carnegie Library. FREE
                
        Nov 20: Tellabration 92 -- The Night of Storytelling.  315 South
                Bellefield Auditorium.  Oakland section of Pgh. $10/$8.
                Call 412-512-3700/412-687-7713 for tickets.  (8 PM).
                
        Nov 21: Fairfield Four Gospel Concert at Synod Hall, Oakland section
                of Pittsburgh.  Tickets $15 ($13 for Calliope members).
                Call 412-687-7713 for information.  (8 PM).
                
                WORKSHOP at 4 PM only $5!
                
Membership in Calliope: The Pittsburgh Folk Music Society is only $15 per
year (or $25 for a family membership).  Membership gives a discount on
Records/Tapes/CD/Concert-tickets AND gets you the monthy calendar of folk
events in Western PA!  Call 412-687-7713 for details (AND tell'em you saw
it on USENET!)

-- 
        INTERNET: tjw+@pitt.edu         BITNET: TJW@PITTVMS
"Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"                        - Lord "John" Warfin
"There can be only one!"                                  - The Highlander
"There should have been only one. I want my money back!"  - Terry
From: djp@ecs.soton.ac.uk (David Pritchard)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: Scottish Country Demo Dancing
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:12:02 GMT
Reply-To: djp@ecs.soton.ac.uk
Organization: SNARC

In article HIS8N8F@netmbx.netmbx.de, jrobie@netmbx.netmbx.de (Jonathan Robie)
 writes:
>
>I keep getting requests for contra demos.  I have so far resisted on
>the grounds that contras aren't a spectator sport--lots of fun to do,
>not too interesting to watch.
>
>Any opinions on this?
>
>Jonathan
>-- 

ANYTHING which is fun to do CAN be interesting to watch.  The problem
is that most display sides that I know/have seen tend to concentrate
more on style/technique than on having fun - the result is only
slightly more interesting than watching synchronised swimming or
kettles boiling.

A group of people I know often meet at a pub and dance (Irish Sets,
Morris, ...) in the street outside for our own enjoyment - and the
bemusement of passers by.  We have a good time, and noone has ever
called the police to complain of the noise or obstructions.

A successful format I have come across for demonstrating the fun of
<your favourite dance form here> is a "demo" by "experts" followed by
the experts grabbing people from the "spectators" and doing it again
(perhaps slower or less intricate).  But you do need reasonably captive
spectators or they will drift away rather than submit to public
embarassment.

--
Dr David J. Pritchard		
Electronics and Computer Science	tel	(+44 703) 592722
University of Southampton		fax	(+44 703) 593045
Southampton SO9 5NH			email	djp@uk.ac.soton.ecs (UK)
United Kingdom					djp@ecs.soton.ac.uk (World)
From: sutin@helios.UCSC.EDU (Brian Sutin)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Re: International Folk Dancing and "The Macedonian Question"
Date: 19 Nov 1992 06:47:11 GMT
Organization: Lick Observatory UCSC
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.ucsc.edu

In article <YOUNG.92Nov18161145@black-nag.icad.com> young@icad.com (Jonathan H. Young) writes:

>[...]

>Unfortunately, some of the publicity for the workshop was
>understood by the local Greek community as being political in nature,
>and they attended the Saturday workshop and culture corner to protest.

>As you might imagine, the MIT Folk Dance Club was somewhat surprised
>by the protest.  Although we promote the dances of all cultures, we
>were accused of taking a partisan political position on an issue with
>international repercussions.
>[...]
>				--- Jonathan Young (young@icad.com) 

The local folk dancing group here in Santa Cruz does not take political
positions, nor is there any person who could be pointed to as a spokesman
or leader of the group.  I have noticed that over the past few months, the
number of requests for any Greek dances has dwindled to nothing, and none
have been taught.  Over half the evening is spent on Macedonian and
Bulgarian dances.  I haven't seen a Syrtos since the Greek Festival a few
months ago.  I think that this is an interesting, unconscious effect on the
part of those who attend.

At the Greek Festival, we did a Sa to the Syrtos tunes.  After all, people
in Northern Greece would.

Brian Sutin				sutin@lick.ucsc.edu
Lick Observatory, UCSC			Santa Cruz, CA 95064
    Fred:   "May I rescue you?"
    Ginger: "No, thank you.  I prefer being in distress."
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: vaghughe@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Greg Hughes)
Subject: Scottish Dance Demo's
Followup-To: marcia@hprped.rose.hp.com
Summary: Dance Name
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
 Marcia: and others:
     The PEI Scottish Country Dancers commissioned John Drewry to  compose a
         Greg Hughes.  vaghughe@upei.ca
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:04:30 GMT


Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: neilson@osf.org (Peter Neilson)
Subject: Re: What makes dances grow ? (Was  Re: Dance demos (was Re: Scottish Country Demo Dancing))
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:16:34 GMT

In article <35830018@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com> donl@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Don B. Larson) writes:
>
>In response to "What makes dances grow?"...
>
>
>I believe that the quality of the facility your dances in influences
>attendance.  
>
>When selecting a facility, look for the correct type of
>floor for your dance form ( most forms require a "giving" smooth floor --
>wood or a properly maintained Formica/linoleum over wood floor.  Do not 
>accept concrete or Formica/linoleum over concrete.  Some gymnasium floors
>are built over an airspace so the floor has a sprung feel.)
>
>Lower priority items:
>1) Look for rooms with good ventilation and clean, dust and smoke free air. 
>Some dance halls can be very dusty.  
>
>2) Find a hall that does not get too hot.  
>
>3) Water should be readily available.
>
Additional dance hall requirements ...
4) The acoustics should be reasonable.  Some halls have corners in which
even the callers with the clearest enunciation can be heard saying,
"Allemand shplt your shplner."

5) Pillars (to support the roof? to annoy dancers?) are not a good idea.

6) If large amounts of furniture must be taken down before the dance
and set up afterwards, the dedication of the volunteers who perform
that labor must be enormous.  If the first dancers to arrive always
get drafted as "volunteers" then maybe some day there just won't be
any "first" dancers.


When hunting for a hall and considering the possibility of asking to
use a church's facilities, remember that although some religions frown
on dancing and would -never- allow it in their church buildings,
others almost seem to think it could qualify as a sacrement.  It is my
impression that many Unitarian churches fall into the latter category.
Unfortunately, most of the church space available for dancing seems to
have pillars.
-- 
    "The Steinway piano people have asked me to announce that the
piano I am playing tonight is a Baldwin."  --Victor Borge
  >>>  Peter Neilson  --- neilson@osf.org  <<<   (Quote changed daily.
If you've seen this one before, you are reading too many newsgroups.)

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From: spiegel@song.bellcore.com (Murray Spiegel)
Subject: Re: Cassette Tape Prices?
Organization: Morristown Research and Engineering
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 21:54:25 GMT

|> What I've come to you today for is information on cassette tapes.  I need
|> to know what the best prices are today for short duration tapes.  Also,
|> prices on cassette boxes and carrying cases/storage boxes would be helpful
|> as well.


	sources we've used

tapes:

Polyline Corp, 1233 Rand Rd, Des Plaines IL 60016 312-298-5300
  lots of variety on quality - about $0.27 -$0.48 each in quantity 
  for 3-5 min tapes

ANDOL, 4212 14th Ave, Brooklyn, NY 11219 800-212-6578/718-435-7322
  lots of variety on quality  - about $0.34 - $0.47 each in quantity

boxes:

GAYLORD, Box 4901, Syracuse, NY 13221 315-457-5070
  cassette storage box No. 1030, holds 30 when in their little cases, 42 loose.
  $20 for 3 boxes

cassette labels:

University Products, Box 101, S Canal St, Hoyoke, MA 01041 413-532-3372
  cassette labels for sides or ends of cassettes (~$3.50 for 1000 labels)

I recommend calling to get recent catalogs from each of these places.

Our groups also use one tape for one song.  As Dan Pearl mentioned,
there's a tradeoff between convenience and storage space.  I like
doing away with a catalog and can directly program from the tape labels.

|> Also, if anyone has some thoughts on the new Compact Digital Cassette and
|> players, I'd like to hear from them.  

Me too!   But then, we'll have to go back to using a catalog (small loss)
From: gupta@crhc.uiuc.edu (Aloke Gupta)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Romanian Folk-dance Workshop this Fri, Urbana IL
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:11:25
Organization: University of Illinois Center for Reliable & High Performance
	Computing
Distribution: rec
NNTP-Posting-Host: lasso.crhc.uiuc.edu

 
                       Illini Folk Dance Society
                                presents

                              John Mudure

                        formerly of the Timis group
                                  of
                            Timisoara, Romania


                        teaching Romanian folk dances


 
        When:  Saturday, Nov. 21 1992, 7:30 pm until 10:30 pm
        Where: Illini Union, 1401 W. Green St., Urbana

        Voluntary donation                                                     $

        For more information contact Malcolm McClure - (217) 359-7782
--
Aloke Gupta                                         E-mail: gupta@crhc.uiuc.edu
Coordinated Science Laboratory                           or a-gupta@uiuc.edu
Dept. of Electrical & Computer Engineering
Univ. of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: mfd3k@uvacs.cs.Virginia.EDU (Michael Dunn)
Subject: Contra Dance - Nov. 22 - Greenwood, VA
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:10:30 GMT

  + . + . + . + . +    C O N T R A    D A N C E !    + . + . + . + . +


                       Contra Corners Presents...

                        Bill Wellington, caller,

                             and music by

                            The Jig Is Up!



   Sunday, November 22
                      at the
                             Greenwood Community Center
                                                        Greenwood, VA



                         Instruction At 5:30

                            Dance at 6:30

          Information...... (804) 295-1847 or (804) 295-6854

                         Admission... $5.00



Directions to Greenwood.......

 Take Interstate 64 west from Charlottesville.  Take Route 250 west
 from the Crozet exit of Interstate 64 for 1.4 miles to state route
 690. Turn right on 690 and continue to the intersection with state
 route 691. Turn right on 691. The community center is on the right
 in a short distance.

-- 
|  Mike Dunn                     :  "If your knees aren't green by the     |
|    University of Virginia      :   end of the day, you need to seriously |
|      Dept. of Computer Science :   re-examine your life."   --Calvin     |
From: pgroblic@revpjg.gmr.com (Peter Groblicki)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: NY Dance Locations?
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:45:28 GMT
Reply-To: pgroblic@revpjg.gmr.com
Organization: GM Research and Environmental Staff

On Nov. 21, I will be driving from Detroit to Mass., along the NY Thruway.  Any places to dance (contra, English, Vintage) between Buffalo and Albany?

I will be returning on the 28th.  Anything for that night?

Thanks -- Pete
From: CT.CXK@forsythe.stanford.edu (Carol Kersten)
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: REQUEST FOR PLACES TO GO COUNTRY-WESTERN DANCING
Date: 18 Nov 1992 08:04:36 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

Some time ago I requested information on Country Western Dancing in
the Bay Area for a friend of mine.  Now I'm thinking of trying it
myself, but don't have information about where to go.

I know about the Saddlerack in San Jose, and I know there are a
couple places in the city, but are there any places in between?
Thanks very much for responding!

Carol Kersten
carol.kersten@forsythe.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
From: alrobins@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Amanda Robinson)
Subject: Re: What makes dances grow ? (Was  Re: Dance demos (was Re: Scottish Country Demo Dancing))
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:03:29 GMT

jrobie@netmbx.netmbx.de (Jonathan Robie) writes:
>donl@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Don B. Larson) writes:
>
>
>>When selecting a facility, look for the correct type of
>>floor for your dance form ( most forms require a "giving" smooth floor --
>>wood or a properly maintained Formica/linoleum over wood floor.  Do not 
>>accept concrete...

>1.  Acoustics.  If you can not be heard clearly when the band is playing
>and people are dancing, you are going to have a hard time calling or teaching.

Yes, yes, a thousand times yes!  I once (once, mind you, never again) attended
a national convention that had LOUSY acoustics AND concrete flooring.  The 
admission was $30 for the weekend, and all I got out of it was a splitting
headache and a sprained knee.  To make it worse, this was the SECOND time
they had held the convention at this location.  The walls were concrete
block and there were metal pipes crossing the ceiling.  Why, why, why?

>Are there other things that go on the basic list?

Chairs.  Most people don't want to dance every dance, and it's annoying
not to be able to sit down when you sit out.

Extension cords.  Usually, you have more plugs than outlets, and you will 
have to run a cord across the room in order to provide enough electricity.

Amanda
From: "Terry J. Wood" <TJW@vms.cis.pitt.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.folk-dancing
Subject: Contra dances during Christmas Break (Greenville Folk Arts Society)
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:11:52 GMT

*From:	IN%"LBCOTTER@ECUVM1.BITNET" 17-NOV-1992 17:17:30.91
*Subj:	Contra dances during Christmas Break

Terry, It's me again, after several months off the FDML.  Hope that mail is
coming in and that everyone's enjoying the good news about dances and dancing.
 One of my friends has asked me if I could find out about any contra (or other
folk) dances/ festivals from about mid-December to early January.  So:
 
Could you post this on the FDML?  Thanks,
 
Michael Cotter, Greenville NC
 
PS: The Greenville Folk Arts Society will have its Christmas Contra Dance on
Saturday, Dec. 5, at the Ladonia Wright building (with a REAL wooden floor)
 on the East Carolina University campus.  David DeGiuseppe from the Triangle
in North Carolina will play; the caller is from Chapel Hill, but I've misplaced
her name.   Dancing starts about 7:30; all are welcome.
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