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From: bryanc@stargate.jpl.nasa.gov (Bryan S. Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Sound Tools, and the IIci
Followup-To: rec.music.synth
Date: 25 Jan 1993 17:51:43 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratories
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.79.108.186



  I'll be in the market for a Mac soon, and I've been eyeing the IIci
(considering the recent drop in prices...  Wow, an affordable Mac, never
thought I'd live to see the day! :).  I'd like to buy a Mac that I can
eventually add Sound Tools, or Pro-Tools to.

  Anyway, I was wondering if anyone out there is using a IIci with
DigiDesign's Sound Tools, or Pro-Tools.  What's the speed like?  Should I
hold out and buy
a Quadra 700?  Are the sound editing/recording functions available with
Sound Tools machine dependant, or do the add-in boards do all the work?

Thanks for any responses...

Bryan C.
<bryanc@stargate.jpl.nasa.gov>
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:20201 comp.music:6258 misc.forsale:35949
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology-Office of Information Technology
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:12:17 EST
From: <DCROWE@GITVM1.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music,misc.forsale
Subject:    FOR SALE: Roland Digital Piano/88-key MIDI Controller

Roland RD-300s 88-key weighted natural (light) action digital piano
(Steinway, Bosendorfer, or Yamaha 16-bit samples), harpsichord, etc.
MIDI I/O interfaces. Perfect condition. $900.

Devon G. Crowe
(404) 993-2241
(404) 894-3500
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: alexand@lt3.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Alexander Forth)
Subject: Is there a K2000 mailinglist?
Organization: Royal Holloway, University of London
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:50:15 GMT
Reply-To: alexand@lt3.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Alexander Forth)
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Hi,

Does anyone know if there is a K2000 mailing list?  I have yet to see an 
announcement or reply to this question.  If there is a mailing list then 
could someone post the details of how to get on it since there seem to be a 
number of people who wish to join but don't know how.

Many thanks,

Alex.

alexand@cs.rhbnc.ac.uk
From: bryanc@stargate.jpl.nasa.gov (Bryan S. Campbell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: 909 For Sale
Followup-To: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Date: 26 Jan 1993 21:04:53 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratories
Distribution: inet
NNTP-Posting-Host: 137.79.108.186

In article <26JAN93.17505020@skyfox>, grahame@skyfox wrote:
> 
> Rather than forking out a bizillion dollars for an archaic drum machine,
> doesn't it make more sense to buy a used Roland R8 and get the "dance"
> ROM card??? That way you've got the sounds in a modern package with
> velocity sensitve pads, lots of memory, etc.

  Better yet, you could buy a used R-8M, and have 3 cards, 808/Electronic
card, 909/Dance card, and the Jazz Brush card...  Then you'd have all the
cymbols/kicks/snares you could want from Roland, with full MIDI compliance,
and a warranty (assuming you don't buy a year old machine).  :)

Bryan C.
From: uelmenm@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: V GAMES music,ensoniq
Date: 27 Jan 93 22:55:05 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

As one who has used an EPS16+ turbo (3meg) unit for the past half year
I must remark on this:
> If you can get an S950 get it. I have but two words. Ensoniq EPS. 13 bit,
> SCSI able, loads while playing, built in 16 track sequencer and can be
> expanded to two megs.

Don't wanna be anal, but conversion is 16-bit.  The Turbo (3 megs) 
was obtained by yours truly for a little over 2 grand.  The ASR-10
now occupies that price range, with expandibility up to 16 megs.
Ensoniq is buggy (mine's in the shop as we speak), but offers good
bang for the buck.  I recommend getting an EPS used, or even waiting
until PC-based sampling (if that's what you use) hits the market.

Now, a question dealing with my interests - 

WHO OUT THERE IS CURRENTLY DOING COMPOSITION FOR VIDEO GAMES?
(I'M DEAD SERIOUS!)
WHO OUT THERE IS DOING COMPOSITION/SOUNDTRACK FOR CDROM/MM?

This is the kind of work I find very interesting, and would be 
extremely curious to hear your m.o. - e.g., do you record work
at 16bit, 44khz then let the engineers compress it?  For those who
compose for Nintendo (are you somewhere in Asia) what are the exact
parameters you work with?  Do you CDROM/CDI folks prefigure the loss
due to 8-bit, 22khz recording etc.?

Please mail or post - thanks!!!

				MU
                
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:20286 rec.music.makers.synth:1770 comp.sys.mac.apps:20486
From: lea@caleb.lbl.gov (Lon Amerman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music,rec.music.makers,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: For Sale: Macintosh Sequencer (EZ Vision)
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:15:37 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory
NNTP-Posting-Host: caleb.lbl.gov

EZ Vision - excellent beginner/intermediate sequencer for the Macintosh
* On-Line help
* Piano roll editing 
  click and drag notes
  delete and insert time
  quantize
  edit multiple tracks simutaneously
  assign different colors to different tracks
  "scrub" cursor accross screen to hear notes (backward & forward !)
  draw and edit controller curves
  supports patch changes, sysex, OMS, Galaxy
* Fader Window with 16 faders for midi mixdown
* "Names" Window -assign patches by name instead of patch #

This package has almost all of the features of Vision (and some
that Vision doesn't). 

  (current street price: ~$110) 
 
 $65 includes disk, manual and US shipping 

lea@caleb.lbl.gov
(510)486-5317 wk
(510)839-1714 hm 
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: tmiller@stellar.eng.hou.compaq.com (Thad Miller )
Subject: HELP me find E! for the >> ORIGINAL << Yamaha DX7!
Followup-To: poster
Summary: E! for DX7 Wanted
Keywords: E! DX7 e! dx7
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:21:51 GMT

Does anybody out there know where I can get an E! upgrade for the ORIGINAL
Yamaha DX7?  

Are there any distributors that carry it?  Local music stores that have one
last copy in the back room?  Does anyone know the phone number for the
manufacturer?

I'm desparate!  I'll take any leads.  Thanx!!!

---
Thad Miller  (tmiller@stellar.eng.hou.compaq.com)
COMPAQ Computer Corp., uh, won't let me, uhm, speak for them.  Don't know why.

Phweeet!  Play some block chords, Red.  Alright, Rudy?  Block chords, Red.
I-vi-ii-V-I-vi-ii-V-I-vi-ii-V-I-vi-ii-V-I-vi-ii-V-I-vi-ii-V-I-vi-ii-V-I-vi-ii-V
---
From: snold@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Spaceman Spiff)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Sample-Vision for the IBM-PC
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:43:39 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.synth
Organization: University of Colorado at Denver



I'm thinking of purchasing Sample-Vision to use on my 386-based machine and was
wondering if anyone has had any experience with the program (good or bad).  I
have access to an Akai S612, Yamaha TX16W, and a Korg DSM-1.  Supposedly, 
Sample Vision will give me the capability to not only dump samples from the 
different machines I have into the program and edit them, but also to 'import
and export' samples between different machines.  (i.e. dump that killer jazz
grand sample from my TX16W into Sample Vision, and then turn around & 'export'
it out to my Korg DSM-1).  Is this really possible?!?  Any comments through 
either news or e-mail would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance!

Steve Nold - snold@copper.denver.colorado.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk (C A S S I E L)
X-Sender:  (Unverified)
Subject: Re: help w/ line noise
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 18:20:59 +0000

>This may sound patronizing, but I find that many people fail to see the
>system as a series of subsystems, and therefore fail to see that they can
>be isolated and their proper operation verified individually.

When it comes to mains hum, this isn't necessarily the case I don't think;
the source of the hum (the loop) is a property of the topology of the
entire system, not its components.

Da?

                     Nick Rothwell  |  "I was 'on the floor' while they
  CASSIEL Contemporary Music/Dance  |   were being shot and I vividly
       cassiel@cassiel.demon.co.uk  |   remember Joan Collins' legs."
       cassiel@cix.compulink.co.uk  |      -- J. B., Script Editor, Space:1999
From: skt@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Simon K Train)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Roland JD-800 -- BEAUTIFUL!
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:56:32 GMT
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

>>Huh? What is that beast?

>The JD-990 is a cross mix between a JV-80, JD-800 and the "good stuff" that
>you missed from the D-50.
>Seems like Roland realized that people really did want the multi-effects 
>of the JD-800 as well as the Super Jupiter/Moog etc.. samples + the
>Pop style sounds of the JV-80, and the oscillator modulation/sync
>capabilities of the D-50.  So they put it in a box for $2095.
>
>It has extremely wide bandwidth.
>
>Sounded good to me.

Have Roland released this machine yet?! I've not seen ANY blurb in UK mags.
Does anyone have a more detailed spec. for the JD-990? 

Multi-FX in multi-timbral mode would be a big bonus! Parameter changes during
MIDI communication could be improved. I've tried playing a sequence with SYSEX
edit data; the machine nearly grinded to a halt.

Simon T.
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:20361 comp.music:6390
From: jerry@qcktrn.com (Jerry Bauer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,comp.music
Subject: Re: The best MIDI programming book in C?
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:50:28 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.synth
Organization: Quickturn Systems, Mountain View CA

In article <1993Jan26.013044.29346@news.acns.nwu.edu> phantom@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (James Choi) writes:
>I just found out that "MIDI programming in C" by Jim Conger is out of
>print.  Considering it was published in 1988, it is possible that there is
>more modern book out there with a similar title out there.
>
>Does anyone know of any?  As it must be clear by now, I am trying to
>address the MIDI board in PC directly in my C (C++, Borland) program for
>some real-time creative effects.  It will be better if it comes with a
>disk.
>
>Thank you in advance.
>
>James Choi

I've seen several requests for such information.  I have read and used
the two books by Jim Conger (MIDI Sequencing in C, C Programming for
MIDI), but I found the Music Quest Interface Technical Reference to be
more informative and complete.  I purchased it at FRY'S in Sunnyvale,
CA (a Silicon Valley landmark electronics superstore) for ~$40.  I
don't have access to the address of Music Quest as I post this; I'll
post it later.  (It's in Plano, TX,  That's all I remember right now.)

I ported Jim Conger's C code from "MIDI Sequencing in C" to MIX Power
C and to Turbo C++ 2.0.  This was not as easy as it should have been
because of his ideosyncratic handling of the graphics screen, which he
implemented to accommodate the differences between Microsoft C 5.1 and
Turbo C 2.0 (the two compilers he wrote for.)  Also, his code does not
use the full capabilities of the MPU-401; it uses only the "dumb UART"
mode.  If you are capable of accomplishing this kind of port, you do not
need these books.  If you are not capable of accomplishing this kind of
port, you should have one of the two compilers the code is written for.

In contrast, the code included with the Technical Reference does not
implement any video at all, and it exercises the full capabilities of
the MPU-401 (including, but not limited to the "dumb UART" mode).  With
this information, you would have to implement the user interface yourself,
but you would have access to the full power of the MIDI interface.

In short, while Jim Conger's books were a part of my MIDI education,
they are certainly not a requirement.  The most useful information
(for me, anyway) came from the Music Quest Interface Technical
Reference, which I recommend.  It comes with several disks including
example code.

Jerry Randal Bauer
From: jack@wb5nrn.cirr.com (jack schieffer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: EPS mailing list
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 13:20:01 CST
Organization: Radio Amateur WB5NRN system, Dallas, Texas

Here's the info for joining the eps mailing list.  To join send e-mail 
to eps-request@reed.edu.  Give them you name and e-mail address and 
tell them you want to join the mailing list.  To send mail to the 
mailing list, just send e-mail to eps@reed.edu (Note: please don't send 
subscribe requests here, use the other address). 

Also, there is a ftp site where you can upload/download samples either 
by mail or by direct access. The site even provides freeware/shareware 
for transferring samples between your EPS and your computer(IBM or 
Atari). To use the site, connect to eps.reed.edu and change directory 
to /pub/eps/.  Be sure to download the README and Survival.kit files, 
as they have info on how to use the site and other cool stuff for EPS 
users. I hope this helps you out.  Also, feel free to send me e-mail 
(jack@wb5nrn.cirr.com) if you're having problems getting connected.

---
jack@wb5nrn.cirr.com  (jack schieffer)
From: cubase@cs.tut.fi (Pekka Martikainen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Roland JD-800 -- BEAUTIFUL!
Date: 21 Jan 93 13:47:28
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: world
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In-reply-to: Randomizer@cup.portal.com's message of Thu, 21 Jan 93 02:24:56 PST

In article <74062@cup.portal.com> Randomizer@cup.portal.com (Aron Fingers Nelson) writes:

> >It's an incredibly rich synth with full, fat bass, yet also truly
> sparkling highs.

> This is true.  The sound is good.

Or is it? If JD-800 has "an incredibly rich" sound, how do you describe the
sound of Oberheim OB-X? or Minimoog? JD-800 sounds dull and digital compared
to the real things. The richness of the sound comes from an exciter, not
from filters or oscillators, as in true analog synths. I like JD more than
other usual digital stuff, but it can't compete with analog synths or K2000.

> Aron_Nelson@cup.portal.com

Pekka Martikainen
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: K2000 - midi'able filters?
Keywords: sampler k2000 filter
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:22:22 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <1993Jan25.222538.1763@sol.ctr.columbia.edu> alexand@lt7.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (Alexander Forth) writes:
>I agree.  From what has been said about the EMU box in this group so far,
>it seems to be a bit of a lemon (ie. can't truely imitate analog gear).  

I haven't head the Emu Vintage box yet but I think we might be over
critical of it.  Sure they are advertising it as an imitation of some
older synths and it appears that the imitations are coming up short
of their goal.  However, how does it sound on its own merits?  From
what I've been told, it seems to be a refreshing departure from the
typical sample player and might be capable of some nice things.  I'm
especially interested in how the Mellotron samples came out.

>Kurzweil got it right in the design stage, and the K2000 sports some of 
>the best real-time sound mangling features currently availble.  What 
>separates the K2000 from the crowd is it's ability to animate the sound
>while playing it.  Current opinion seems to be that the K2000 is the closest
>a digital keyboard has presently come to immitating the sounds of an analog 
>keyboard.  

Agreed.  It has an attitude and richness usually associated with analog
gear.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
From: cubase@cs.tut.fi (Pekka Martikainen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: Roland JD-800 -- BEAUTIFUL!
Date: 22 Jan 93 13:45:43
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
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In-reply-to: Randomizer@cup.portal.com's message of Fri, 22 Jan 93 01:42:14 PST

In article <74139@cup.portal.com> Randomizer@cup.portal.com (Aron Fingers Nelson) writes:

> Why does it have to compete?  It has a sound all of its own.  It can sound
> rich and full as well as sparkling.  It's a versatile keyboard sound-wise.
> It's not half the synthesizer that the K2000 is but it's not meant to be.

It has to compete because if I want sparkling analog sounds I would buy
K2000, not JD-800. K2000 has a warmer and fuller sound and is much more
versatile synth. That is only my opinion. You don't have to agree.

> You don't have to convince me, I have a K2000 as well as an Oberheim,
> Moog and Prophet.  I haved owned an OB-X in the past too.

OK. I won't. :)

> Aron

Pekka Martikainen
Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:20323 rec.music.makers.synth:1812
From: martin
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Mixer recommendations
Date: 26 Jan 93 05:13:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: CS.1k2h9mINN8l4
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Science Dept, University of Tennessee, Knoxville
NNTP-Posting-Host: galoob.cs.utk.edu

This is a call for recommendations for a general-purpose
mixer.  I've considered the Alesis 1622, but I'd like
some more feedback.  I remember reading an article in
Keyboard a while back that said that the pots felt pretty
flimsy.

I'm looking for a non-power-amp mixer.  12 or 16 channels,
around $1200 or so.  I want something that's very quiet,
solid, and probably rack-mountable (but not necessarily).

Please point me in the right direction & comment on the 1622.

Many thanks in advance.		--Tim

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Xref: sparky rec.music.synth:20231 rec.music.makers.synth:1677
From: hatter@cs.utexas.edu (John Eichenseer)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth,rec.music.makers.synth
Subject: Dimensions (old Roland FX boxes)
Date: 22 Jan 1993 02:24:00 -0600
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cash.cs.utexas.edu

Someone mentioned the "Boss Dimension C" in a recent article. 

That got me wondering as to exactly what all the old Roland Dimension
boxes were. I know that the Dimension D is quite rare and sought these
days; I have never heard one in person. There is a Dimension D patch
on one of Rolands newer FX boxes (RSP-3000?) which I found to be very
very nice and useable: an expansive, warm, slow, subtle chorus that
could really open up the right sounds. 

Are there Dimension A's and B's and C's and D's and E's and F's and ???

Reminds me of the Cat in the Hat... 

Just Curious,


hatter@cs.utexas.edu



Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: tamagen@lt11.cs.rhbnc.ac.uk (FREESTONE-BAYES)
Subject: Kawai K1 & Tune Generation...
Reply-To: zhac108@vax.rhbnc.ac.uk (T.BAYES)
Organization: Royal Holloway, University of London
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 13:22:26 GMT



Hello! I have two questions that no-one I know can answer for me! I would
greatly appreciate any advice anyone could give!! Here goes....

1) Are there any PD, MIDI compatable programs available to help GENERATE tunes
   in MIDI format, using built in algorithms? (ie: the computer actually taking
   an ACTIVE role in the composition of the tune; a tune designer). I would be
   very interested in hearing the results of such programs, and (if they exist)
   the names of ftp sites where they can be found. I would like to use this
   just to mess about in my room, not to produce anything professional.

   I currently own an Atari ST and a Kawai K1 synth, and a PC with no midi
   interface. I would prefer to use the PC for programs, and the ST to control
   the synth. I know nothing about program compilation from source code, and
   would like executionables only, if possible! 


2) Apparantly it is possible to dump sound patches from the K1 onto a computer,
   and save them to disk rather than on the synth or a memory card, and then
   load them back on to the machine... I have found a PD program to do this on
   a PC, but as I have no interface, this is not of much use! Do any such 
   programs exist for the atari ST? K1 memory cards are a bit expensive...!

   Thanks,

   T.Bayes (email : zhac108@vax.rhbnc.ac.uk)
From: five@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (A.R.F.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re my previous STE for sale message.
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:35:05 GMT
Organization: System 6626 BBS, Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

Will trade the above mentioned package, for an Ensoniq EPS with or 
without memory expander.
 
Five
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: K2000 - midi'able filters?
Keywords: sampler k2000 filter
Date: 26 Jan 93 17:16:20 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <1993Jan25.223736.27651@engage.pko.dec.com> gibian@ljohub.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>I know nothing about the instruments other than the K2000 in the
>prior posting.  SO, in total ignorance, let me forge ahead....
>
>The K2000 certainly has an enormous amount of filtering available,
>and it is MIDI controllable given the proper programming.  Once
>you start to understand the mix of synthesizer and sampling technologies
>present in the K2000, the possibilities for new and inventive sounds
>become limitless.  This would be true for the K2000 even if it was
>restricted to the classic basic waveform of the older breed of synthesizers.
>I find that with this instrument I can do so many things that I can't
>imagine needing to do sampling to create a sound I don't already have.
>The version 1.3 software on up to date K2000's provide very good examples
>of this principal.  Need an accordian to do a polka.  Well, no accordian
>sample, but take some Sax samples, put them through some of the sound
>manipulation facilities, and you have a wonderful acordian sound.

This is true, of course.  Ironically it is the multitude of samples
on the K2000 that will keep some people from doing much programming.
On an old analog synth, if you wanted a string pad (or any kind of
imitative sound) you had create it out of pulse waves and sawtooths. 
You might not end up with a perfect imitation but you would end up 
with a really cool sound.  The availablity of complex sample waveforms
on the K2000 should elevate synth timbres to entirely new levels
but most users won't bother.

BTW: I had to come up with an accordian patch once to do Billy Joel's
"Italian Restaurant".  I tried every patch I could find on any of my
boxes that had "accordian" somewhere in the name.  They all sucked.
I wanted something romantic and european.  I finally had to create
my own using reed sounds (clarinets and saxes) on an SY99.  Bingo.

-- 
Scott Amspoker                       |    
Basis International, Albuquerque, NM |  Too bad ignorance isn't really
                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
scott@bbx.basis.com                  |
Newsgroups: rec.music.synth
From: fields@zip.eecs.umich.edu (Matthew Fields)
Subject: Mac midi play software sought
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: Mac MIDI FTP shareware freeware small
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Distribution: aa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:54:55 GMT

Greetings.  I'm looking for info leading to a small program
for my mac (under system 6.0.5) the sole purpose of which is
to play preexisting MIDI files out a selectable port or ports.
Should be able to correctly dynamically process the tempo track
(this is why MiniTrax will not do).  Preferably shareware
and/or freeware, so I can mail it with midi files.
Please reply ONLY IN E-MAIL.  Thanks.
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