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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 11:20:37 MDT
From:         weasels ripped my dress <watson@HG.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      Loreena, Loreena!

n.n. reviewed as such:

>_The Visit_, by Loreena McKennitt (a b'day gift from She of the Ripped
>Garment, Ms. Carol "Canookie" Watson, herself -- thanks, darlin'!) --
>talk about a big vocal sound!  This lady's got it (and her harp
>playin' ain't too shabby, either). Really earthy, Celtic-sounding folk
>material which should be avoided if you're depressed, since there's
>more than a bit of minor key progressions runnin' around here.  :)
>It's really good to unwind to, but stay away from the alcohol... ;)

Avoided if you're depressed?  Huh?  I'm confused...  I'm obviously listening to
her music in a different context -- I guess more of a historical context.  I
find her music incredibly soothing in times of depression simply because it
takes me to another place and time (and away from the hockey player when he's
being a dickhead).  If I ever stumble on a time machine, I'd love to go back in
time when the Celts were heavily influenced by the Persians.  :)  This period
was ripe with an earthy and eerie beauty that I find bewitching and Loreena's
music reflects that, IMHO.  Actually, the best description of Loreena's music
that I've come across came from Chucky, our resident philosopher, who described
"All Souls Night" as ""Ravi Shankar meets some Irish witches at Stonehenge
under a full moon for a little fun".  What a wonderful summary!  I also love to
immerse myself in the vibrations produced by all the drones (sitars, uilleans,
etc.) she uses in her music.

Stay away from the alcohol?  I'll admit that this is not the type of music to
accompany a beer swilling rally.  But, a nice glass of good wine or port,
perhaps some other homemade pagan liquid, or maybe some smouldering herbs would
certainly be appropriate while enjoying Loreena's music.  :)

- Carol
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From: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
Subject: Re: Loreena, Loreena!
Reply-To: bt979@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeff Preston)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 05:33:57 GMT


In a previous article, watson@HG.ULETH.CA (weasels ripped my dress) says:

>n.n. reviewed as such:

>>material which should be avoided if you're depressed, since there's
>>more than a bit of minor key progressions runnin' around here.  :)
>>It's really good to unwind to, but stay away from the alcohol... ;)

>Avoided if you're depressed?  Huh?  I'm confused...  I'm obviously listening to
>her music in a different context -- I guess more of a historical context.  I

  Well, don't get me wrong... it's good stuff, but droning minor chords
always seem to put me in melancholia. Ther seems to be implied hardship
in the tunes (though maybe not in the lyrics... y'all know I don't pay
much attention to that part), so this feels sadder to me than any blues
ever could, even though they are generally the forum for the hardship
stories, lyrically.

>Stay away from the alcohol?  I'll admit that this is not the type of music to
>accompany a beer swilling rally.  But, a nice glass of good wine or port,
>perhaps some other homemade pagan liquid, or maybe some smouldering herbs would
>certainly be appropriate while enjoying Loreena's music.  :)

  Now that I think about it, listening to music is not a good way for
"n.n." to relax. I spend too much time actively listening for it to be a
relaxing experience... maybe that's why things that are generally soothing
to some people's ears doesn't evoke as much emotional response from me
as something that's musically clever in some respect. It's still enjoyable
music, but only when I'm in the right frame of mind (which I can admit,
I may not have been in that frame lately!).  ;)

  Jeff ("n.n.")

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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: Freddie
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 19:56:52 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92081312262979@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> RIck <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET> writes:
>On Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:42:34 GMT Jeff Beer said:
>>Freddie Hubbard is scheduled to be on Jay Leno tonight.  (wednesday, Aug
>>12)
>
>Damn, I didn't get any ALLMUSIC yesterday, so I missed him. How was he?

No you didn't.  He wasn't on!  Though he was listed twice in the Chicago
Tribune, and though all the other guests were on (including Joe Cocker,
which sort of was fishy anyway, two musicians scheduled on the same
night)  they didn't have Freddie.  I wonder if it was a last minute
cancellation, because they had on Bill Clinton's Bus Driver.

BTW, tonight is Buddy Guy and others.


>I recommend Freddie as another "intro to jazz" trumpet player. I was into his
>CTI recordings in early high school. Those Creed Taylor productions - glossy
>album covers in black-plus-primary colors; about 2 tunes per LP side. Don
>Sebesky string arrangements--probably sound hoke today; but they were tasty
>then. The usual gang of session players -- Eric Gale, George Cables, Airto,
>Ron Carter, Hubert Laws. The tunes were usual 2-chord funky riffs with

Don't forget Joe Henderson, Herbie Hancock, Jack DeJohnette, and Billy
Cobham.  In fact on one, there is Keith Jarrett, playing FENDER RHODES.
HA-HA-HA, H0-H0-HO, HEE-HEE-HEE.

>generally a change-of-mood bridge. Lotsa solo space; Hubbard always inventive
>on these; and playing aggressively throughout. Titles: Sunflower, Sky Dive,
>Straight Life, Keep Your Soul Together. That's all I can remember.

Let's see, Red Clay, Straight Life, First Light, Sky Dive, Keep Your
Soul Together.  He was on others, including Milt Jackson's Sunflower,
and Don Sebesky's Giant Box, which might be interesting to hear again.
There also were some concerts, California Concert, and a few others.  I
don't know if Freddie was the leader of all of them.

>Miles trashed Hubbard in a Downbeat article of '75 or so, saying all FH could
>play was fast scales. But in his autobiography Miles exonerates Freddie as a
>master, while he slashes Wynton to ribbons throughout the book. Another story.

Oh yeah, Miles liked to dis.  Just before Miles came back, a friend of
mine saw Freddie in New York at a club, and Miles was standing near the
front and kept saying, "Oh Freddie, you f*cked that up", or "Oh come on Freddie,
you're not playing Shit".  Finally Freddie held his horn out and said
"Let's see you do better", and Miles just kind of poofed out...

The fact is, jazz is competitive.  How many times do you think Miles was
playing with Bird, and Fats Navarro would come in and just blew Miles
off the stage.   All the time...

>So, was Freddie on Leno? No, I don't mean literally. Geeezz.

Nope, didn't happen, and who knows if it will at this time.  I hope so.
BTW, there is a nice video narrated by Wynton called Trumpet Kings, and
there is a segment with Freddie with Ron Carter, Cedar Walton, and not
sure about the drummer.  Freddie is smoking on flugel.  But I hope he
gets on.

Jeff
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:59:00 LCL
From:         Kevin Sonney <KEVIN.DAVINCI@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Thoughts on Prince
X-To:         Michelle May <ALLMUSIC@auvm.american.edu>

I've got  to comment on  this one, Michelle. I've been listening
to Prince  since  the 1999  Lp,  and have watched  him grow, then
slide back down,  and nopw he's  growing again. As a musician, he
probably won't  get any better,  but as a  composer and lyracist,
he's on  his way to  the greats. In  case you missed it, not only
did he do most of his own composing, but he also wrote "Martika's
Kitchen," and lots of the stuff done by Wendy&Lisa.

I'm  excited about his own LP's, but I'm even more excited when I
can find a tune he wrote, performed by another artist.

-Kevin
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 22:08:23 EDT
From:         Mike Karolchik <MIKE@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Jimmy Johnson / Flim and the BBs

>In a previous article, bulm2533@hgc.edu (steven bulmer) says:

>>Good to see things are about the same around here in the coupla
>>weeks I;ve been away! heh heh>

>  Yep... how else *could* they be?  ;)

>>>That's a real surprise -- you know who Holdsworth's regular bassist
>>>is?  Wow. Well, yeah, Jimmy a great player. Doesn't he also work with
>>>Flim and the BBs?

>>Ahem, Jimmy *IS* Flim....

>  I see. Well, I have to admit that I'm not up on my Flim, but what
>I've heard has been pretty good stuff. Perhaps you could point me to
>the better recordings...?  I know t.l.g. is also into Flim -- maybe
>he'll have more suggestions. Or different ones. Hey, there's a thought:
>Flim Wars I!!  ;)

Um, who me? Oh yeah, you're right... I do know a bit about them. Problem
with F&BBs is that I like all of their albums so it's tough to make
recommendations (other than "go out and buy all of their albums!").

To borrow from a note I sent previously to n.n.:

      F&BB were the first band ever to be digitally recorded, or so
   they claim in some of their liner notes. They experimented with
   digital recording for 3M in 1977 and became dedicated to the digital
   medium. The influence is clear in their jazz/rock music, which
   characteristically uses a lot of dynamic range and abrupt changes.
   Some of their songs are very far out, some are conventional, and
   many are a mixture of both. The band always plays live, although
   rarely in concert, directly onto 2-track digital tape. No fancy
   overdubs or mixes.

For an interested first-time listener, I suggest the "Tunnel" and
"Neon" albums as good starting places.

>  Jeff ("n.n.")

-Mike t.l.g.
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Sunday, 16 Aug 1992 12:19:01 MST
From: <AGRGB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
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Subject: Re: The Official Word on Jerry Garcia

hey now,

the dead announced yesterday that the entire fall tour has been cancelled.
refunds available through GDTS. jerry is being treated at home by his doctors
who have prescribed exercise, healthy food, and *no* more smoking.

GET WELL SOON JERRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:47:54 EDT
From:         Mike Karolchik <MIKE@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      ALLMUSIC Archives

   As of August 17, 1992 an archive of ALLMUSIC mail will be
maintained at AUVM. This generous provision by our host university
will make it possible for you to search, re-read, and retrieve
previous ALLMUSIC mail. The exact time span of the archive is yet to
be determined. The agreement I have with AUVM is that when the
archive disk is about to fill up, the oldest week's worth of mail
will be deleted.

   The archives can be accessed either interactively (using a
program called LDBASE, which is available from LISTSERV) or by batch
(via E-Mail to LISTSERV). This is not a good time or place for me to
explain in detail how you use the archives. If you want an
authoritative set of instructions, send this message to the LISTSERV
nearest you:

               INFO DATABASE

   If you have trouble or questions, send me some private E-Mail and
I'll try to help you.


-Mike t.l.g.
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From: nancyl@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Nancy Lellenberg Bentrup)
Subject: ENYA responses
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 18:46:23 GMT

Thanks to all of you who posted WORTHWHILE responses to my request for more 
information about Enya.

For the person who wasted people's time insulting my musical tastes and
others': I never said in my post that I found her to be the BEST musician
or whatever... I was just asking for more info about someone whose music
I had just been introduced to.  And furthermore, some people do like
Barry Manilow and John Denver or whoever, and their tastes should be
respected regardless of whether or not you agree with them.  
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 17:07:00 LCL
From:         Kevin Sonney <KEVIN.DAVINCI@MHS.UNC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ENYA responses
X-To:         Rick <ALLMUSIC@auvm.american.edu>

Rick/Nancy/etc -

I don't see what the big deal is! I *LIKE* Enya. I also happen to
Like AC/DC,  Aerosmith,  The Smiths, Chopan,  Skinny Puppy, Moby,
Thrill Kill  Kult  (before *AND*  after  "Cool World"), and whole
lot more...

...if he happens to think Enya twists your mind, twist on!

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twists your mind, keep twisting!
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From: jpreston@nyx.cs.du.edu (no-nick)
Subject: Re: Bass World (was: Friday thoughts)
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	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
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Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 14:53:43 GMT

In article <ALLMUSIC%92081708201570@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU> MAINT2@ERS.BITNET 
Ken Koester) writes:
>On Sat, 15 Aug 1992 21:22:39 GMT no-nick said:
>>
>>Speaking of Vic Wooten, I just got _UFO Tofu_ the other day, and althou
h
>>I'd already heard half the tunes this past spring at the UK student
>>ballroom, I was still surprised by the overall feel of the disc. It's
>>distinctly different from the previous CDs (and I think Futureman is
>>getting the hang of that Drumitar, finally).
>>
>Would =UFO Tofu= be the latest from the Fleckdudes?  Been out of the cou
try
>for 2 weeks & haven't gotten around to the local Tower yet.



Indeed it is, Ken, and one worthy of celebration. The title cut 
alone is worth the price of admission, as this is the one which Bela
says is based on something by Bach, and that it was a bitch to play
on banjo. The rest of the Flecktones didn't seem to have much problem
learning it, so he decided to make them learn it backwards, too.
That's how the palindrome name came about, and yes, the tune has 
three distince sections which are played in both directions (live,
not Memorex). Cocky little runt.  :)

Jeff ("n.n.")


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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:29:28 EDT
From:         Rick <MMLRICK@UBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Fans of Country and Ministry unite!

A tidbit from the July 25 1992 Melody Maker, which make me wonder: What are
all the arguments about? Those of you in both camps can now declare
harmonious truce. Here goes (the rest is directly quoted):

   "Hey, you like country?"

   Al Jourgenson waits for an affirmative nod and flings a lovingly compiled
cassette tape across Chicago's Trax studio. The tape features songs by Buck
Owens, George Jones, Gram Parsons, Loretta Lynn, Hank Williams and Lefty
Frizzell. It's bizarre. These definitely aren't the sort of people you'd
expect the man behind Ministry might want you to listen to. Then again there
can't be too many country fans who'd call their compilation "Cry In Your Beer,
F***er - Or Else!"

    But wait... "Cry In Your Beer"... "You like country?"... What's going on
here?

    Shouldn't Jourgenson more typically be asking me if I want any drugs?

    I mean, the last time Al entertained visiting journalists in his hometown,
he generously invited them to share his speed, his coke, and his smack...Today,
however, Jourgenson seems less interested in adding to his own myth than in
glorifying the real legends of rock 'n' roll.

    He sticks George Jones' "The Window Up Above" on the tape deck and retells
a favourite story about country siren Tammy Wynette, who was married to Jones
during the early Seventies. In an attempt to curb George's legendary boozing,
she banned alcohol from their house and hid his car keys so he couldn't even
escape to the nearest bar. But George wasn't so easily deterred. He simply
hopped on a lawnmower and chugged 10 miles into Nashville to find a liquor
store.

    "F***, man, people think I'm loony," smiles Jourgenson. "THAT'S hardcore."

End quote,
Rick
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:52:59 CET
From:         Sebastian Welton <SWELTON@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: cage is dead

>Composer John Cage died yesterday, Aug 12, in New York.  He would have

That makes two concerts now in Frankfurt cancelled due to deaths. John Cage
was performing his piece Anarchic Harmony here on the 28th for a few days
and Toto in October.

Seb
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 07:29:10 CDT
From:         "Leonard Watkins" <ISTS024@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Friday thoughts

On Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:08:00 GMT OUT, OUT - YOU'LL NOT FEEL THE FALL-OUT... said
>Some clever questions from our own Leonard :)...
>
>>(1) IYHO is Prince a genuis, fluke, desserving of the attention he receives
>>    or is he a dawg(alabmama for dog) you had when you were a youngster?
editorial comment the dawg statement was in know way a knock on prince
just my lame attempt at humor I've heard prince refered to as a gnuis many time
s and i wondered what the more musical inclined people thought
>
>>(2) What do you think of Robert Cray, Joe Walsh, joe cocker
>>    Notting Hilbillies (this spelling getting worse)
>
>        My fave artists in this group are Cray and Walsh. I admire Cray because
>in rather silly technical tricks which in the end only throw smoke in the eyes
>of the listeners. Walsh is funny and I admire his solo works a lot (well, at
>least what I've been able to listen). I wouldn't call him a killer guitarist,
>but I still think that some of his solos with Eagles are incredible. His song
>"Life's Been Good" is my favourite out of his solo productions.

I think Joe Walsh is a very melodic guitar at times and a techno-whiz that
I can tolerate, i understand he and Dottie West's husband had a lot to do
with coming up with the "talk-box" Robert is great,singer,player, but he
has two writers dennis walker & (?) who write incredible songs and are good
with production and i think he owes alot to them
>        Ciao, Marco
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:25:04 -0400
From:         "Russell A. Potter" <rapotter@COLBY.EDU>
Subject:      Tangerine Dream
X-To:         ALLMUSIC@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU
X-cc:         rapotter@host0.COLBY.EDU

Tangerine Dream: a German band no doubt about it.  Personnel:

1968: Edgar Froese (Germany) & others (not known to me)

1969: Edgar Froese (Germany), Klaus Schulze (Germany), Conrad Schnizler (Ger.)

1970: Schulze leaves, replaced by Christoph Franke
      Schnizler leaves, replaced by Steve Schroyer (both Franke & Schroyer
            are German)

1971 (?) Schroyer departs, replaced by Peter Baumann (German, I believe)

1975: Joined briefly by Michael Hoenig

1977: Baumann departs.

1980: Johannes Schmoelling joins (with Froese & Franke, the core of 80's TD)

All this info. can be garnered from the liner notes to TD's Virgin Records
Greatest Hits compilation, "Dream Sequence" (CDTD-1).


=========================================================================
"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies"
                                                    --Friedrich Nietzsche
=======Russell A. Potter========<rapotter@colby.edu>=====================
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:47:00 CDT
From:         S_YECK@TWU.BITNET
Subject:      tangerine dream

I would like to know if anyone has ever heard of the band Tangerine  Dream?
They are an electronics band from Germany (no lyrics, with the exception of
their older stuff) and have been around since the 1970's.  Some people think
that their music is terrible just because it is mostly instrumental, but I
truly enjoy it myself.

Tangerine Dream has also done MANY soundtracks.  You may not know it, but they
have done the music scores to: "Firestarter", "Risky Business", "Legend", "Dead
Solid Perfect", "Miracle Mile", "Rainbow Drive" and quite many more than just
those.

Their newest album is called "Rockoon" and it is just Edgar Froese and his son
Jerome Froese, doing the music.  It has a rockish sound to it, and is quite
enjoyable.

I'd like to hear some of your opinions about this band, if you've ever heard of
them--or just about electronic music in general.  It can be good or bad--I'm
open to any kind of opinion--I've been on both sides.

Send me a message at S_YECK@TWU.


Meshel Yeck
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From: ujwb@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Jeff Beer)
Subject: Re: naked ornette
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 16:32:07 GMT


i think the director said it had to be a semi-bio on Burroughs, or else
they wouldn't have gotten the millions it took to make.

the music is out on CD.  all the music in the film is on the disk.
there are about 5 Ornette tunes, and a brief quotation of Misterioso.
They also have a brief section of Midnight Sunrise, from the Dancing In
Your Head album (Jajouka musicians).

Ornette hasn't had any recent records out lately, so this is it.

Jeff
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 13:08:11 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject: Re: ENYA
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              13, 92 11:54 am

Bob sed:

>It is well-known that placing any of these CDs in proximity to others
>causes all the musical content of the latter CDs to be sucked out.
>
>Nancy, Enya is the Antichrist!  She's no good for you.  Trust me.

	Don't listen to him Nancy, go with your feelings. Listen to
Enya and enjoy. Bob's a poop. :)

>Bob
>crispen@foxy.boeing.com
>


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    Gary Hanley
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 11:41:25 EDT
From:         AISARMSTRONG%IST%VMI@IST.VMI.EDU
Subject:      Help I'm white and I can't get down
X-To:         ALLMUSIC@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU

Here's a song you might be interested in hearing.  I don't know all of the
words but I do know the chours line.

Help I'm white and I can't get down
I have two left feet on the ground
I need some help to do the town
Help I'm white and I can't get down
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:46:26 EDT
From:         Gary Hanley <ghanley@DG-WEBO.WEBO.DG.COM>
Subject:      Re: Train Kept A-Rollin covers
X-To:         ALLMUSIC@AMERICAN.EDU
              at Aug 20, 92 10:28 am

	Foghat did a, well, shall we say an incarnation of the song,
and I think the name was called "Honey Hush", if I remember correctly,
and I don't usually.
	Anyway, it was basically the same song with different lyrics.

--
Regards,
    Gary Hanley
<ghanley@dg-webo.webo.dg.com>
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