From: dfs@doe.carleton.ca (David F. Skoll)
Subject: Re: War Resisters League on Terrorism (should be "of terrorism.")
Organization: Dept. of Electronics, Carleton University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 12:59:11 GMT

In <1992Apr10.165432.22407@ncsu.edu> hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad
Hernlem) writes:

>Beware the deceptive assumptions in David's post:

>a) Islamic Jihad and Hezbollah are one and the same and that actions by
>one group can be blamed on both.

In fact, they are very closely linked.  Most Western experts refer to Islamic
Jihad as a "protege" of Hizbollah.

>b) The statement quoted above was made by "Islamic Jihad". (In actuality
>the statement was made by unknown sources claiming to be representatives
>of the Islamic Jihad.)

Musawi himself has said that the war against Israel extends to all Jews.

>I have posted a great many articles on the subject of the resistance to
>the Israeli occupation of Lebanon by Hezbollah and other Lebanese groups
>to point out that, despite the image of these groups that we get from
>our media, these people are fighting daily to free their country from
>foreign occupation, NOT to plot the genocide of the Jews or the
>kidnapping of Westerners.

I'll include below an article from soc.culture.lebanon which details the
atrocities committed by Hezbollah against Lebanese.  Another article
will show the list of hostages captured by them.

>David's deception is a directed to draw our attention
>away from the real goal of these Lebanese; to be free from foreign occupation.

I have deceived no-one:  Hezbollah's STATED GOAL is to annihilate Israel.
Their source of support is Iran, not Lebanon.  Even Brad cannot dispute
these facts.

>p.s. I am sure that David would not like me claiming that all Israel can
>be represented by the Kach party's beliefs and actions; I ask that he
>stop disseminating the lie that Hezbollah and the Lebanese resitance is
>dedicated to the genocide of the Jews and the total destruction of Israel.

Hezbollah is NOT the Lebanese resistance.  They are a bunch of genocidal
thugs, whose STATED goal is the destruction of Israel, not the liberation
of Lebanon from foreigners.

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From: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast
Subject: Re: Terry Waite (and Hizbola)
Date: 20 Nov 91 19:48:10 GMT
Reply-To: dzk@cs.brown.edu (Danny Keren)
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science


A lot of debate has been circulating around whether the "hizbola" in south
Lebanon is a terrorist organization or not. It is true that sometimes
the definition of "terrorist" seems to apply only for groups, and not
for states, but this seems to me a matter of semantics. Frankly, I don't
care how the hizbola are called, I am more interested in what they want
to achieve. For that, it might be interesting to look at what their mentors
and supporters, the Iranian leaders, think. Here are some quotes from recent
speeches by them, made during the peace conference in Madrid:

Ali Hamanwai, the leader of Iran:

"The peace talk are a declaration of war on Islam..its perticepants will
 suffer the fury of the nations...the peace conference is treason in the
 Palestinian people and Islam"

Ali Achbar MuchTashmi, leader of the extreme fraction in Iran, speaking
in front of the national commitee of Iran:

"All those perticepating in the talks must be executed...president Bush is
the initiator of this treason and must be killed...America will pay for
this, SHE WON'T BE PROTECTED FROM THE FURY OF THE HIZBOLA..."


All speakers in the commitee denounced the peace talks. The day the conference
opened was declared to be "the day of fury".

Students, striking and demonstrating in the holy city of Kom, promised
to fight "till the liberation of Jerusalem"

At that time, the hizbola in Lebanon also had something to say:

In Beirut, US and Israeli flags were burned in front of the US embassy, and
protestors vowed to free holy Jerusalem. The leader of hizbola in Lebanon,
Abas Mosawi, said "We will continue the Jihad to free our land. Palestine is
ours, Jerusalem is ours".

[Doesn't sound like the liberation of Lebanon to me - sounds like the
occupation of Israel.  --DFS]

From talk.politics.mideast Wed Feb 19 10:25:17 1992