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From: jep@cs.duke.edu (Jonathan E. Polito)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dents in Tanks
Date: 15 Aug 92 19:32:02 GMT
	<JEP.92Aug12162837@thneed.cs.duke.edu>
	<WARKENTI.92Aug14133206@syscad8.CAE.Mitel.Com>
Organization: Duke University CS Dept., Durham, NC
In-reply-to: warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com's message of 14 Aug 92 17:32:06 GMT


In article <WARKENTI.92Aug14133206@syscad8.CAE.Mitel.Com> warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com (BJ Warkentin) writes:

 >>   Jonathan E. Polito writes:
 >>      someone writes:
 >>      [idea of filling tank with water and freezing to effect dent
 >>      removal]
 >>
 >>      The only problem with this is that you have little control as to where
 >>      force is applied unless you are dealing with a nice sphere. I deemed
 >>      this too risky...at least the idea of filling the tank up with water
 >>      via garden hose until the dents come out. At 30psi, that is a lot of
 >>      total stress on the tank. Don't know about freezing it though....
 >
 >   I take it that you are not into physics and things mechanical... Water
 >   expands when it goes from a liquid to a solid state. Assuming that you
 >   fill the tank completely and seal it, when the water freezes the
 >   interior volume of your tank will be x% larger. The number 4-5% rings
 >   and bell, but my long term storage ain't what it used to be. Help, is
 >   there a mechie in the house?????
 >
 >   The psi exerted, on any given point will depend on tank geometry and
 >   where the water freezes first but methinks (am a lowly EE thus I ain't
 >   going to do the calcs to figure it all out) you will far excede 30
 >   psi. ....
 >
 >   BJ...warkenti@CAE.Mitel.Com    |   XJ650K and DoD#0255


I take it that you are not into reading and things written....
I was commenting on the idea of expanding the tank in general --
specifically via pumping water into a sealed tank. Water from a garden
variety hose is at about 30psi.  I said I didn't know about the force
resulting from expanding freezing water. At any rate, expanding the
tank by various means was suggested to me (and others) by I just
deemed it too risky.

I guess that is why you are a lowly EE. 
--
Jonathan Polito                                      DoD #x (K 100)
jep@cs.duke.edu                                  jpolito@encore.com 
              "You Don't Say...." --- Sylvia Plath
From: bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Blue Jeans Bad; Leather Jeans Good
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:38:41 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Washington State University

In article <1992Aug11.161503.16834@cbfsb.cb.att.com> jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:
>In article <1992Aug10.181845.27432@ms.uky.edu> sean@ms.uky.edu (Sean Casey) writes:
>>Jeans will protect you for about 5 feet, which is about how long it
>>takes the denim to rip away.
>>
>
> Except in my case 20-30mph low side. Bone chips in knee. Missing
>epidermis(sp?). But the levi's came thru unscathed.
> Go figure.
>
The jeans stick to the pavement and you slide against the inside of the 
pant leg.  The fabric, not sliding against anything does not get hurt.
Your skin agianst the fabric get shredded.  Yummy.

Ride injury free,

Bill
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From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Gun control in California
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:42:42 GMT
Expires: 31 Aug 92 05:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Organization: Computervision, Corp., Bedford, Ma.

|In article <1992Aug18.172017.477@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> andy@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (Andy Freeman) writes:
|>In article <36941@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> djohnson@cs.ucsd.edu (Darin Johnson) writes:
|>>>Like the helmet bill, they didn't actually care about "trivia"
|>>>like whether or not their claims were true or not.
|>>
|>>Helmet law?  You mean the claims are wrong, and responsible drivers
|>>are safe on motorcycles without a helmet?  Wow...
|>
|>As to whether or not one can safely ride without a helmet, I'll let
|>the folks in rec.motorcycles discuss that with Johnson.  I'll just
|>point out that it is ILLEGAL for car drivers to wear a helmet, and the
|>reason given for that restriction is that a helmet interferes with
|>their sight and hearing.  I wonder why Johnson thinks that helmets
|>don't have that effect on motorcycle riders.
|>

Sounds like a genuinely wonderful idea - let's move this helmet thread off
of rec.motorcyles and over to a totally indifferent news group and let them
get driven to the edge over it.  I've gotten so much use out of my "k" key
of late that the letter is starting to dissappear from the key...


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
[  This Space For Rent       ]              (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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From: davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Automatics
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:08:33 GMT
Organization: Tektronix - Colorado Data Systems, Englewood, CO

In article <Aug17.152058.64763@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ntetsuya@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Nishimura) writes:
>
>	As long as I know, there were two automatic transmission (AT) MC's from
>	Honda; CB400AT and CB750AT (and both had the same pet name "EARA":
>	pronounced AIR RA).
>						Tetsuya Nishimura

    Also the Moto Guzzi 1000 Convert, which preceeded both of the Hondas
by several years.  It was a full torque converter car-type two speed,
allegedly a copy of a GM Powerglide.  It wasn't real popular either.
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From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: vf750 exhaust
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:56:51 GMT

Paul James King (pak@aber.ac.uk) wrote:
: Does anyone know where I can get a decent replacement
: exhaust system for a 1984 honda vf750fd ?
: 
: Honda want #175.00 + VAT just for the collector box
: and down pipes !!!!
: 
: Thanks
: 
: Paul
:  

Hello fellow Euro DoDer!  Bonjour, Goede middag, etc.

I used a Motad on my XJ900.  Yamaha said that they were their recommended
second choice.  First choice being them, of course!  1ton75 sounds fairly cheap
for a _genuine_ zorst.  Yamaha wanted close on to 4 tons!  My Motad looked nice
did not degrade the performance and was nice and quiet.  Also, it was about 
60-70 quid, including Very Awful Tax and Pap. Check out MCN for their address.


Nick (the Biker)            DoD 1069     MAG 73516

M'Lud.


AJBell comm device ID no. ++44 628 794125/666430
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm)
Subject: Re: DoD Security Breach ?
Organization: Pirate DoD outpost
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:20:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.210809.284@halfdome.sf.ca.us>, laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Laurie Abbott) writes:
|> >hamm@weejordy.physics.mun.ca (Craig Hamm) wipes drool from the keyboard
|> >and ever-so-slowly manages to type:
|> 
|> [boring flame deleted to save bandwidth]
|> 
|> >>	(Was that good enough to get me inducted?  I'm interested 8*}  )
|> 
|> i'd rate it slightly below negative infinity.
|>  
|> -- laurie
|> ____________________________________________________________________
|> "Never underestimate the ability of a man to underestimate the abil-
|> ity of a woman."                                   --V.I. Warshawski
|> 
|> laurie@halfdome.sf.ca.us                                   DoD #0023


	Well, I appreciate very much Laurie you mapping me into the
	reals, albeit slightly irrational of you !!

	Love and sloppy wet kisses hun,
	Craig Hamm

	'81 XJ650 (from Hell)
From: ramarren@apple.com (Godfrey DiGiorgi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Current Harley Craze and Women
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:01:15 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Organization: Apple Computer

In article <24879@castle.ed.ac.uk>, cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
wrote:
> 
> There isn't anything wrong with the Harley rebel image. You just made
> the mistake of supposing this young lady was talking about a ride on
> your motorcycle. In fact she was telling you that that she only wanted
> to be ridden by a Harley owner. It's well known that Harley owners have
> much bigger dicks than Honda owners.

They buy their dicks at the same sex shops as the Honda owners ... oh, you 
mean they special order the jumbo sizes!

Honda owners are much bigger on instant gratification. :)
========
Godfrey DiGiorgi | ramarren@apple.com | DoD #0493
"Logic may be the beginning of wisdom, but logic never bought
 me a Ducati."
 Rule #1: Never sell a Ducati.
 Rule #2: Always obey Rule #1.
Honda VFR700 Intercepter 1987, "Bright White"
Ducati 750GT             1975, "Thunder"
Ducati 250 Mk III Diana  1966, sleeping beauty
Toyota MR2               1985, "VSSC"
========
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:27:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: i88.1992Aug20.192732.28939
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL

In article <25579@dog.ee.lbl.gov> jnmoyne@lbl.gov (Jean-Noel Moyne) writes:
>On twisties, when somebody is on your back, IT MEANS HE WANTS TO PASS YOU
>!!!!!!!
>
>Yohoooo !!! WAKE UP !!!!
>
>Wake up your dad, pull over in that turnout, get a life and LEARN TO DRIVE.
>Moron !
>
>
>	I can't believe I'm reading those things !!! This just beats me ... Really, I
>don't get it, how can people be so clueless.

When I'm driving through twisty areas, at night, and someone insists on
sitting on my butt even though I'm doing the speed limit and pulling to`
the far edge of the road in passing zones, to allow the person to pass,
then it doesn't mean they want to pass, it means they're a clueless dweeb.

If someone can't take a hint from flashing brake lights, speeding up and
slowing down, and every other trick in the book, that they're proximity
isn't appreciated, then that person neads to learn to drive.  Aside from
limiting forward visibility, tailgating also increases the spacing
between oncoming cars needed to pass;  if you back off, then use
your following distance to accelerate while the first oncoming vehicle
has not yet passed, you can effectively add several hundred feet to the
distance between that and the next oncoming vehicle.  Or hadn't you
figured that out yet?
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
George Bush claims to have neglected domestic issues in favor of foreign policy.
    Looking at Iraqi civilians, I'm glad we didn't have his full attention.
From: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RESULT: rec.motorcycles.harley passes 362:47
Date: 18 Aug 92 02:51:32 GMT
Organization: Fido's Kennel, Cupertino CA

Monday August 17 1992 10:28, Robert B. Ciotti wrote to All:

 RBC>  Rec.motorcycles.harley passes 362 yes votes to 47 no votes.

Good. I voted yes, so thats twice I was on the winning side. Big deal.

Now, please, lets move all discussions about Harley Davidson motorcycles
and the illusions/delusions of (superior) life styles so often professed
by owners of same to rec.motorcycles.harley, where I don't have to read
them. Thank you!

John

--- GoldED 2.40.P0720+
--  
John Hamilton                  uucp: uts.amdahl.com!kennel!john
DoD #0327   ToT #11            internet: john@f8.n143.z1.fidonet.org
ZX-11 From Hell.               arpa: john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG
She said, "Its either me or that ZX-11!" Too bad, I'll miss her.
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Cager Alert!
Date: 14 Aug 92 21:47:55 GMT
Expires: 31 Aug 92 05:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: timewarp.prime.com
Organization: Computervision Corp., Bedford, Ma.

In article <1438@seqp4.sequoia.com> cantrell@seqp4.sequoia.com (Paul Cantrell) writes:
>Maybe we'll start to see fairings which make the bike look like a car?
>A big fake grill, fake wheels at each corner, big fins on the back, and
>a fake driver with a look of total oblivion painted on the face...
>

Yah, I can see it now - a little CB150 cruising down the local Main St.
looking every bit like a 1959 Cadillac (coming and going)....8-P.


Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
[  This Space For Rent       ]              (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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From: Bob_BobR_Retelle@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Automatics
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 00:25:55 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1480@seqp4.sequoia.com> <21AUG199217524779@zeus.tamu.edu>
  <1992Aug22.014742.14897@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil>

To the extent of my research, Honda made three models of "Hondamatic"
bikes, at least those released here in the US...
 
In the late '70s and very early '80s, they sold the CM400A, which
was replaced by the CM450A in 1982..  during the same time period
they also sold the CM750A.  I believe 1985 was the last year the
Hondamatic was produced.
 
They are more than "virtually identical" to the other bikes in
the CM series..  unless you know which small details to look for
(other than the decals on the side covers, obviously), they
are *exactly* identical.

The transmissions DO NOT shift "automatically" like a car's does..
There are two gears, or "ranges".. low, for speeds up to about 45,
and high, until you peg the needle.  The system uses an automotive
style torque converter instead of a clutch, allowing you to stop
while still in gear, and allowing some slip while the bike gets
moving.  Essentially it's about the same as riding in second or
fourth gear all the time (you *can* shift manually between ranges
while riding.. same foot lever, just no clutch).

Oh.. the "parking brake" that uses the "clutch" lever *does* have
more than "lookalike" value..  since the converter lets the bike
roll when "in gear", you need something to keep the bike from
rolling when parked on an incline..  and yes, there's a lockout
to keep you from forgetting and grabbing it at 70MPH...
 
Other than not having to shift, they're about the same as any
bike to ride...  plus, they're a great conversation starter!
 
(I know... I have two of them..!)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: keller@hubble.ifa.hawaii.edu (Tim Keller)
Subject: Re: Goof2 Stolen at Gunpoint
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 00:12:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.224954.4673@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>gwu@tcsi.tcs.com (George Wu) writes:
>>Some guy's waiting for him
>>with a gun.  He orders him off the bike and rides away.
>
>Anyone remember how much that alarm system with the remote ignition
>disable costs? I'd almost be willing to sacrifice the bike if I could
>kill it in front of a fast moving semi.
>-- 
>Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
>blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
>Dumper of Dirtbikes #46       My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.      FJ1200

How about a spark plug in the gas tank with a remote "boom" button?
From: shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Mary Shafer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: 92 Harley for sale
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:04:40 GMT
Organization: NASA Dryden, Edwards, Cal.

I don't know anything about this at all, except that I saw it posted
on the bulletin board here at Dryden.  Someone said that the owner was
"that deputy that died" and we have LA County deputies here instead of
police.  It's been on the board for a little while, so OBO might work.

1992 Harley Davidson FLHTC Black
Stereo AM/FM Cassette  full dress
Cargo rack and driver's backrest
307 miles  purchased 5/22/92
$13,500 OBO
Death forces sale.  (805) 256-3983 ext 3886

--
Mary Shafer  DoD #0362 KotFR NASA Dryden Flight Research Facility, Edwards, CA
shafer@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov                    Of course I don't speak for NASA
 "There's no kill like a guns kill." LCDR "Hoser" Satrapa, gunnery instructor
                       "A kill is a kill."  Anonymous
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson)
Subject: Re: Smog checks required on big bikes?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 13:15:38 GMT

In article <l8ln28INNs03@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> rja@newbirth.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen) writes:
>
>    it when you renew your CDL or ID.  Fun huh?  Presumably
>    by '95 or so we'll have to have it tattooed on our
>    foreheads.
>

Probably in bar code form. :-)

-- 
| Dean Cookson / dcookson@mitre.org / 617 271-2714    | DoD #207  AMA #573534 |
| The MITRE Corp. Burlington Rd., Bedford, Ma. 01730  | KotNML  /  KotB       |
| "If I was worried about who saw me, I'd never get   | '81 CB750C            |
| nekkid at all." -Ed Green, DoD #0111                | '88 Bianchi Limited   |
From: joe@mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: AMA Progressive Insurance Rip-Off
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:46:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: devnull.2231

john@kennel.FIDONET.ORG (John Hamilton) writes:
> Wednesday August 12 1992 23:41, Stefan Goellner wrote to All:
>  |>> here's one better, I once got a quote for my ZX-11 at approx.
>  |>> $1800/yr. I called back and got a quote on a ZZR-1100C at approx.
>  |>> $400/yr. since they didn't have a listing for "ZZR-1100C" it fell
>  |>> into the "other" category. it pays to know ALL the designations for
>  |>> your bike :-) -- Joe Senner
>  SG> Yeah, but don't they catch that on the VIN?
> 
> You MUST be kidding?

who, me? I didn't say I got it, I said I got a quote. no doubt the
shitheads at the home office would have caught that one. I stayed
with dairyland at $850/yr (I shop around at renewal time just in
case there's a cheaper one). they did piss me off good though when
I switched from the ZX-11 to the K100RS, they refused to just change
the bike, I had to cancel and open a new policy. good bye no-claim,
renewal, etc., etc. discounts. I luckily found a cheaper rate
through southern something or other. I would have paid more than 
dairyland's price just to avoid giving them my business.

btw: yes, I talked to numerous people at dairyland and they wouldn't
budge no matter how much I bitched.

--
Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
From: ldoi@adobe.com (Lonny M. Doi)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: More Bad Press?
Keywords: Not too bad....
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:37:42 GMT
Reply-To: ldoi@adobe.com
Distribution: rec
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <JEP.92Aug10094535@thneed.cs.duke.edu> jep@cs.duke.edu  
(Jonathan E. Polito) writes:
> 
> Another page from Hunter's book?
> Last night I saw an ad for Street Story with ED Bradley on Thurs
> night/CBS which gave the intro something like: "What happens when 1000
> Wild Harley Riders (tm) invade a small town..." and then showed
> pictures of stereotypical bad ass bikers (did I see 'Roid?).... 
> --
> Jonathan Polito                                      DoD #x (K 100)
> jep@cs.duke.edu                                  jpolito@encore.com 
>               "You Don't Say...." --- Sylvia Plath

What I saw and recorded of the Street Story was kinda interesting.  It was  
a story about an IRS worker that rider her Harley to Sturgis.  I can't  
remember all of the details but it did seem MC friendly.  I did notice  
that it appeared that most of the bikers were carrying helmets.  Doesn't  
mean that they wear them :-]

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  Lonny M. Doi        ldoi@adobe.com    (415)962-3946    dillagaf
  Honda Shadow VLX    AMA: 58061701  ABATE: 5224GS     DoD: 404
        My opinions are ignored anyway....so what else is new?
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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Another DoD first (was: Re: jeff Achenbach)
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 23:12:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.150630.23735@linus.mitre.org> cookson@mbunix.mitre.org (Cookson) writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.032740.8784@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:

>>but they were *very thick* glazeds/glazed's/glazedes/whatever -- doughnuts.
>>you should have kept watching, though; you missed the incredible finale
>>(i couldn't say 'climax') with the girl, llama, and tennis balls.

>So Cliff, are you trying to say that the holes were of smaller that usuall
>size??

are you referring to the doughnuts, the girl, the llama, or me?

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