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From: partha@paul.rutgers.edu (nowhere_man)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Bekel Holo.... Theker somoae
Date: 6 Jan 93 20:30:13 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


kolkata, dashuda, bengal-lamp/8b, nandan (any
newcomer gokhelites out there?), coffee house..sob miliei to bangali r
adda... kichu kichu jinis anuposthit keno? specially coffee house
flavor? naki oparar u(n)tel ra amader moto mistri der patta dichchen
na???


Jadavpur super market er kache Indian Coffee house er ekta branch
chilo oboshyo.. kintu jadavpuria ra otake bishes patta ditona.
oi complex e pore 'blue lagoon' bole ekti chinese thek hoechilo,
air-conditioned hoar phole besh bhir hoto....

about the bikel belar thek...
jonogon..topic er boroi obhab dekhchi..
keno chaer kup e jhor tolar topic er abhab hoeche??

je bangali  Bolivia 'i samrajyobadi shoktir kalo hat bhangbar jonne 
street corner kore bordhoman e, sei bangali intellect, wit ebong
energy r ki apochoi ....

Aaai shala Deepu, khisti dibi na shudhu shudhu...tui ki mairy amader 
JU mech er nendu in disguise nakire?????
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bala@research.att.com (Bala Krishnamurthy)
Subject: Paramilitary Troops Massacre 40 in Kashmir Town
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:33:10 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Keywords: Paramilitary Troops Massacre

apnews reports:
   SOPORE, India (AP) _ Paramilitary troops hunting for Muslim
militants in a Kashmir town shot and burned to death at least 40
residents today, police and witnesses said.
	   At least 100 people were injured in the massacre, the worst in
more than two years in the northern state of Jammu-Kashmir where
Islamic militants are fighting for a separate homeland.
	   The attack apparently was to retaliate for the death of two
soldiers earlier today in a rebel land mine blast outside Sopore, a
town known for its apple orchards and fruit markets.
	   Residents said about 100 troops of the Border Security Force
surrounded the town of 50,000 people, sealed entry points and
started searching for militants in the main market a half-hour
after the mine blast.
	   About 15 soldiers suddenly opened fire in the market, said
Basheer Ahmed Lone, a fruit seller who hid under crates.
	   The troops then set fire to the shops. Six hours later the fire
had engulfed the entire market and the neighborhood.
	   The troops also stopped a car and set it afire along with its
occupants, said Lone, who brought some of the injured to Srinagar,
the state capital.
	   The police control room in Srinagar confirmed the troops killed
40 people but refused to give details.
	   Lone said the soldiers also fired on a bus and that he saw about
20 bodies in the vehicle.
	   ``The security forces were firing everywhere. Then I got hit and
I don't know what happened,'' said Uttar Kumar, lying in a Srinagar
hospital with bandages around bullet wounds to his legs and
abdomen.
	   Kumar had come to Sopore from New Delhi to buy fruit for his
shop.
	   Mohammad Ramzan, who works in a fruit shop, said he was dragged
out from the shop and was shot by a soldier.
	   ``I saw several people falling down in the firing. Then this
soldiers caught hold of me. After that I don't remember anything,''
said Ramzan in Srinagar. He was shot in the thigh and abdomen.
	   Security forces stopped reporters who came from Srinagar at a
bridge outside Sopore. Officials there refused to give details of
the incident and did not allow them to go into the town.
	   From the bridge, which is the main entry point and overlooks the
town, raging fires and plumes of smoke could be seen in several
places.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: budaraju@cae.wisc.edu (Srinivas Budaraju)
Subject: Re: Riots Paralyze Bombay for Seventh Night
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Date: 12 Jan 93 21:22:56 CST
Keywords: Riot Bombay

In article <jog.726883345@kpc.com> jog@kpc.com (Rajeev Jog) writes:
>budaraju@cae.wisc.edu (Srinivas Budaraju) writes:
>>the same between different religious groups? Considering the fact that
>>Hindus and other non-Muslims practice polygamy much more than Indian
>>Muslims, I don't know why such a big issue is made out of it. Also,
>Any references to justify the "much more" above?

These are the percentage of polygamous marriages from the data for 1961.

			Hindus		Muslims		Others

All periods		5.80		5.73		7.89
> 50 years		2.73		4.50		3.87
41-50 yrs ago 		5.54		4.76		5.01
31-40 yrs ago		5.55		5.13		6.35
21-30 yrs ago		6.79		7.29		7.08
11-20 yrs ago		7.15		7.06		8.91
Last 10 yrs		5.06		4.31		8.58
Not stated		3.60		1.85		1.01

Ref: The Muslim Situation in India, Edited by Iqbal A. Ansari, Sterling
Publishers Private Ltd., New Delhi, 1989. See Table 14, on page 244.

Also, from "Population Geography of Muslims in India" by Nafis Ahmad
Siddiqui, S. Chand & Co., 1976, polygamy among Indian muslims is not
practiced in most areas.

>Rajeev Jog

-Srinivas				budaraju@cae.wisc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: an3919@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Srinivas's questions ( Was Re: Kuram Narayan ..)
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 00:50:25 GMT

Srinivas writes:
> who are these "rest of the sub-humans'?

Well, all those ass-holes who get the benefit of reservation to
reach places they do not deserve, since they lack intellegence.
All those terrorists and killers of LTTE, DMK, PMK etc All the
sycophants in TN government...

> What is so "blood-thirsty " about them?

Who killed Rajiv Gandhi? Who is killing Indian citizens in the name of
some assholes in a foreign country? Who cares if those are badly treated 
in their country! What is their business in India? Feudal murderers in TN
is second to none in India interms of the bestial modus operandi and 
barbaric execution!

> And what is so glorious about 'Brahmin brains'?

The answer is self-explanatory! Those dravidians who kept on preaching
Dravidian greatness needed a foreigner ( MGR), a Brahmin ( Jayalalitha)
another foreigner ( Karunanithi- originally from AP) and a brahmin ( who
founded DMK?:-)) to rule them. How many scientists from TN are non-brahmin?
Who is CV Raman, Subrahmanian Chandrasekhar?? If any tamilian is famous
overseas or outside TN, he is either a Brahmin or a notorious terrorist!
( Incidentally,  I am not referring to non-Brahmins in other states who
may be as good! I am talking about these imbecile SC creeps in TN who are
so dirty that their sight itself makes one unholy).

> And what is so inglorious about non-Brahmin brains?

HA HA HA HA ! Nothing inglorious! Simply such a thing does not exist in
TN, My apologies again to Indians from other states. This truth does not
stand valid for them. Also, in spite of 80% reservation in TN, designed to
make Brahmins illeterate, 90% of all Tamils going to US are Brahmins who
evidently have better brains than to make temples for cheap movie actors:-)



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From: banarji@unixg.ubc.ca (Ajai Banarji)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Dual Citizenship
Date: 9 Jan 1993 04:27:05 GMT
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
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		Dual Citizenship in India

  The present situation is as follows:
  A central minister announced that the government will allow dual citizenship.
However, it appears that the Constitution at present does not permit dual
citizenship and will have to be amended. In the present political situation
it is possible that the government will not be able to get a 2/3 majority
which is required for an amendment.
  This subject has come up several times. A few months ago the government
said that dual citizenship would be allowed only for citizens for a few
countries, namely US, Canada and UK. I don't know what their position is
now.
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: dchatterjee@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: My reply to an3814
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:21:05 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1i7on7INNbkf@hsc.usc.edu>, banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) 
writes:
> In article <1993Jan3.204702.18285@fuug.fi> an3814@anon.penet.fi writes:
> 
>...... (deleted)...... 
>>The proofs which I have, are sufficient to get his account cancelled at 
>>USC.  However, I leave this to the readers of SCP/SCI/SCB to decide what
>>we should do with him.
>
  Samit (Dr.Banerjee), there is *nothing* to worry about. You are toooooooooooo
  apologetic. I have seen swines and bastards like this anonymous idiot many
  time s. They are cowards and are afraid to come outside.
  
  The idiot does *not* know that there will be 15 persons to challenge your
  sys. admin. about your account getting cancelled. Moreover, I have also
  talked this over with some person, and, it is quite possible to get back 
  to the Anon postmaster and corresponding to that anon number, it *is* 
  possible to trace the path from where it actually originated. Thus since
  that path will lead us to the source, we can definitely find out who that
  son-of-a-bitch is - who is trying to cause you trouble !

  Dr.Banerjee, fuck that swine's diatribe, please. Moreover, that idiot
  does not know that there is a Freedom of Expression in this country. Nothing
  that you post (unless it is physical threat) can be taken under any kind
  of offense. I just talked to the legal agencies here at Topeka, Kansas and
  they apprised me of the rules. Give that guy a bucket of smelly pig's shit.

  Get it from the sewage of L.A !!!!! Some 3rd world jerk  (Pakistani) is
  trying to get the better of you ! How dare he do this !!!!

> You dont have any proof and if you do lets see it.
> 
> Samit
> -- 
> Samit Banerjee,			    |  
> University of Southern California   |  A man who smiles when things go wrong,
> Internet: banerjee@scf.usc.edu      |  has found somebody to blame it on.
> Bellnet : (213) 342-1401

     - deb chatterjee
    (A GOOD SAMARITAN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rrp@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (rakesh.r.patel)
Subject: Re: Kuram Narayana on Kings ...PMK propagandist!
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:18:16 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.055616.11127@fuug.fi> an3919@anon.penet.fi writes:
>
>Mathurai cholakattabomman anti-civilization Kathivaran writes:
>narayana@oracorp.com (K.T. Narayana) writes:
>
>>> ............ There is an edict of emperor Ashoka that he
>>> brought righteousness to the Pandya, Chera, and Chola
>>> country.
>
>> It is a humanist culture. We gave refuge to Jews
>> in 167 AD. The copper plates owned by Jews in malabar written
>
>Ha ha, *we* did not give refuge, they did! Cheras arte keralites and
>thankfully not pandis. While malayalam might have evolved out of
>Tamil, Chera culture and all the subsequent rulers were very different
>in their cultural and humanistic background. Kerala has been ruled by
>aryanized or aryan rulers 9notwithstanding the commie assertions otherwise)
>and kerala rulers did have a caste system which is an aryan influence/relic.
>Kerala developed rich literature which was written in a language
>called Manipravalam which was mixture of Sanskrit with malayalam.
>So, do not take credit for what was not yours.
>
>> culture as opposed to your RSSical/hitlerite/aryanical/kuramiccal lineage.
>> you are a foul rascal
>
>So anyone who says the truth is Hitlerite, eh? If there is any development
>in Tamil Nadu it is because of the Aryan influence. In spite of that,
>it is one state ( not counting Bihar) where sycophancy and dictatorship
>and primitive-ass kissing is taken for democracy. It is the only
>Indian state where freedom of press is openly challenged by the
>legislature, examples of which are numerous. The fisrt state to start
>idol worshipping some imbecile movie actor, first state to elevate
>his concubine to chief ministership after he died, first state where
>semi-literate movie starlets run the affairs of the state, the honors go
>to Tamil Nadu. All this after the intellegent Aryanized population was
>ousted from all benevolent positions by semi-humans whose clans wage war
>in other countries donning terrorist outfits.
>
>Even now, if Tamil Nadu is known to the outside world, it is because of
>the Brahmins who use their brains to bring glory to the whole country,
>not because of the rest of the sub-humans. You should be ashamed Mr
>kattabomman pathalamackal kachi, to run down the aryans to support
>the blood-thirsty sub-humans and to take credit of other people's
>generosity as yours.
>

What an interesting article. After the recent Hindu-Muslim (or if you
prefer Muslim-Hindu) War on SCI, get ready for another major conflagration
between the Aryans and the Dravidians on SCI. Now back to our regularly
scheduled programming.

Take cover!


Rakesh Patel
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: Re: Of U.S. And Indian Patent Laws. India's Is More Progressive.
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:36:22 GMT

Could not agree more. In fact, the US Consumer is being royally screwed
by the Pharmaceutical Industry in this country with simply outrageous
prices. Remember the $500 toilet seats for the US Army? Well, a similar
situation exists in the Pharmaceutical industry. One example: Glaxo
markets "Zantac", one of the best selling drugs in the world, for
treatment of ulcer. This thing costs something like 2 or 3 dollars
per capsule. The same drug, same brand, same company (Glaxo of India)
sells for pennies in India. And Glaxo (India) is not exactly in the
business of charity. They, along with other "firangi" drug firms,
are being accused of making obscene amounts of money in India! Why
are the prices so low? Precisely because India drug makers have been
able to clone the drug and will run Glaxo out of the market. In a sense,
those who buy Zantac in India, do so for the comforting feeling of a
well known brand name.

Another outrageous thing I read was that the US is pressurizing India
to agree to patents on plants and vegetation that grows in the Himalayas.
Can you believe this? India has to pay royalties to US companies
for using herbal plants that grow in India (patents on plant genes or
some such thing. more knowledgeable netters please comment)!!

The USA is being ripped off right royally by the medical establishment
($900 billion in 1992) and certainly they have a vested interest
in protecting their turf!

Just some thoughts. - ganesh
  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bhatnagr@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Raj Bhatnagar)
Subject: Re: ACTUAL MOTIVE BEHIND THE RIOTS
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:06:06 GMT


In article <9301112151.AA18593@ha10.eng.ua.edu> bkannan@ha10.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan) writes:


>  if reports are to be believed
>  this seems like a power-tussle between Pawar & Naik.
>bk

Talking to some relatives in Bombay I got the impression that there
are three equally likely hypotheses (= rumors?) doing the rounds about 
the root of the current eruption of riots in Bombay. 

Pawar-Naik power-tussle is one, inter gang attacks among the powerful
underworld groups is the second, and some developers' tactics trying to
get the slum lands cleared for more buildings is the third. All these
factors trying to get active simultaneously under the pretext of
existing communal tensions is probably the reason for the eruption of
violence which have left the police baffled.


---raj

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: pandya@levers.dec.com (Atul Pandya)
Subject: Publications for SW ad
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 18:21:17 GMT


I am looking for info on which newspaer/magazine/periodical is best read
and therefore well suited for a software ad. It can be a business newspaper
like Wall Street Journal as well. Also, would anyone know of ad rates in
that kind of a paper? Are you better off placing the ad from here or locally
from Indian source?

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From: dea@lib401.its.rpi.edu (Anirban De)
Subject: AIR news: India asks Pak to cut HC staff, Riot situation tense, leaders released.
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 20:16:52 GMT


Source: All India Radio
Time: 1pm EST, January 10,1992
Country: India

India asks Pakistan to cut strength of Pakistan HC in Delhi

In Bombay condition in riot affected areas continue to be tense

Six leaders of BJP, VHP and Bajrang Dal released

24th International Film Festival of India opened in Delhi


******

India has asked Pakistan to bring down the number of its 
High Commission personnel from 150 to 110 by the 10th of
next month. India has also rejected Pakistan's long standing
request to let it use what Pakistan calls "Jinnah House" in 
Bombay.

A press release from the External Affairs ministry in New
Delhi said that India will not allow any temporary visa officer
of Pakistan outside of its High Commission in New Delhi or
the Consulate General in Bombay. Henceforth all visa affairs
have to be dealt with in New Delhi and Bombay only.
This comes in wake of Pakistan's request to cut the strength
of India's Consulate General in Karachi last month.


****

In Bombay condition in riot affected areas continue to be tense
as news of fresh violence continue to come in. The authorities
have decided to continue the imposition of curfew in South,
South Central and Central Bombay. The Chief Minister of 
Maharashtra Sudhakarrao Naik visited different riot affected
areas.

He also said that intensive combing operations by the military,
para military and police forces will continue to flush out the
miscreants. He said the issue of holding namaz and offering
of mahaarti on the streets is being discussed at the highest
level. The former Governor of Maharashtra has said several
foreign agencies are creating the trouble and has appealed 
to leaders of both communities to work for peace and harmony.

****

Two leaders of the BJP, L.K. Advani and M.M. Joshi and
four leaders of the two banned Hindu organizations, the VHP 
and the Bajrang Dal, V.H. Dalmia, A. Singhal, V. Katiar and
Uma Bharati have been released from judicial custody today.
	
The Chief Judicial Magistrate in the district of Lalitpur
in Uttar Pradesh released them when the investigative team
probing into the Ayodhya incident felt they had made 
good advancement in the case and did not press for remanding
the leaders in further custody.

****

The 24th International Film Festival of India was inaugurated
in the Siri Fort Auditorium in Delhi by the veteran film
producer G.P. Sippy. Addressing the function the Information
and Broadcasting minister A.K. Panja called upon film makers
to attain communal harmony through films.


-Anirban De
dea@rpi.edu
From: srsurapa@mtu.edu (Surapanani)
Subject: TAJMAHAL  ------  A POEM
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 05:51:10 GMT


              TajMahal


   At the sight of snow flurries
          bright and shining white
          hailing storms and falling shower
          makes the cowboy wonder
          is Tajmahal a Temple or a Tomb

   
    Long after the Shahjahan and Moghul kings
         and his love for Mumtaj and their queens
         the memory lived by
         in the hearts of many, who lived by
         in the land of holy cows and magic fakirs


   As the reign of queen ended
         and the moon of Mumtaj faded
         the heart of Shahjahan wilted
         winced and withered
         as the memories haunted

    
   So then decided Shahjahan
         to build a castle
         so rich with splendor
         that he could take cover
         in the wonder of monumental moonlight

   
   In time, the castle emerged
         from his dreams
         huge and marvellous
         breathtaking and magnificient
         made with marble
         snowwhite and sparkle

   
   Four pillars stood by at four corners
        symbolizing passion, devotion, love and affection
        with the dome shaped like the teardrop
        marking the tragedy of the lost trump


    Inside the castle
         a small tomb took form
         wherin lay the lovers heart
         sealed for time eternity  

   
    Many a person looked at the castle
         and said 
        "what a magnificient tomb" it was
         but little do they realize that
         it is not the tomb as it seemed to be
         but its the
        
        "Temple of Love"

                           Srini Surapanani

           (The cowboy from the land of holy cows and magic fakirs)
         
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From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: MUSTAFA JAA KE ALT.FLAME ME DEKH
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:28:41 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <dbose.726702780@sirocco.aem.umn.edu>, dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:
> minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
> 
>>In article <dbose.726561621@sirocco.aem.umn.edu>, dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 	BECHAARE MUSTAFA ,
>>> 
>>> 		ALT.FLAME ME TERI KHOOB PITAI HO RAHI HAI .
>>> 
>>> 		EVEN THE AMERICANS ARE ABUSING YOU .
>>> 
>>> 		ALONGWITH YOU THEY ARE ALSO ABUSING ISLAM
>>> 
>>> 		AND PAKISTAN(A TERRORIST STATE)
>>> 
>>> 		HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!
>>> 
>>> 		MAZAA AA GAYAA !!!
>>> 
>>> 		HO HO HO HO HO !!!
>>> 
>>> 		ABEY JAA KE DEKH TERA KYA HAAL HO GAYAA HAI .
>>> 
>>> 		HI HI HI HI HI
>>> 
>>> 		TAKE MY SYMPATHIES WITH YOU .
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 				    DEEPAK
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>this son of a bitch deepak reminds me of one of my old professors. talks a lot
>>of hot air, but says nothing.
> 
>>zafar
> 
> 	ZAFAR BHAI ,
> 
> 		HUMKA GAALI KAHE DEWAT HO ? HUM TO SACH BOLAT RAHI .
> 
> 		[Why are you abusing me , I am telling the truth ]
> 
> 		HUM JHOOT NAAHI BOLAT HAI . BHAROSA NA HO TO KHUDHI
> 
> 		JAI KE DEKH LO .
> 
> 		[If you don't believe me , go and see yourself ]
> 
> 		CHEE-CHEE  GUTTER MENTALITY !!!!
> 
> 		PAKISTAN( A BHANGI/ CHAMAAR STATE ) ZINDABAAD !!!
> 
> 		(Theek bola na Fafat ?? )
> 
> 						DEEPAKWA

pahli bat yeh hai keh tumhara bhai nahin hun. dusri bat yeh hai keh tumheh to
maloom bhi nahin keh muslim unity ka matlab kya hai. aur tum nay abhi nahin
bataya tum nay kyun bola keh merey bap haramzadeh kay aulad hain. when are you
going to tell me that? you not only insulted me, my father and grandfather, but
you insulted my mother and grandmother. hell even my brother and sister, now
shit for brains, i want you to explain yourself on the net as to what you mean
when you say that me and my father are haramzadeh keh aulad. come on make
yourself clear. if you can make off the wall statements like that then you can
further explain yourself. go on don't be afraid.

zafar
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