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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Bowl Game Organizers and halftime shows
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:10:34 GMT

I went to four bowl games while playing in Ohio State's Marching
Band:  The 1979 Gator Bowl, '80 Rose Bowl, '80 Fiesta Bowl (the 
1980 year being the last that the Fiesta Bowl was played before
New Year's Day), and '81 Liberty Bowl.

The "only" Bowl Committee which was nice enough to let us do
our own show and did NOT require us to mingle in with some other
half-baked scheme put on by a hired Bowl-gun was the Rose Bowl.
'Gotta love tradition, eh?  At least the folks at the Rose Bowl
know that the parade is for the pageantry and the Bowl Game is
for the schools and their bands.

The worst Bowl committee was the Liberty Bowl people.  Wink
Martindale was the emcee and during the practices, he spent more
time trying to bed the Liberty Bowl Queen than getting his damn
lines right.  I remember our Director trying his best to keep a
straight face as he told us not to harass poor Wink.  We still
harassed him.

On a related note, I once dated a girl whose father earned his
living setting up these halftime extravaganzas.  There's lots of
money to be made at this job, and the organizers really don't
give a rats rear about the participating bands of the college
teams playing in the bowl game.  Sponsor $$ and keeping the
sponsors happy is the name of the game.

allen

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From: dchef@leland.Stanford.edu (David Van Ham Cohen)
Subject: Re: LSJUMB's show at the Blockbuster Bowl
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 22:55:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.002918.16472@leland.Stanford.EDU>  
yourmom@storm.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman) writes:

> [Double Plus Good Think Video Bowl screwed us over, etc.]
> Not to mention the fact that they
> wouldn't allow our announcers to go on without a _written_ script in
> front of them (like they couldn't do it from memory, oh no), so the
> pregame show started late and our announcer accidentally missed a
> formation.

Actually, before pregame they wouldn't even let our (2) announcers into  
the pressbox.  I think that was a problem with passes, not scripts.  In  
the havoc that followed, one of them found a field mike ("Hey, where's  
that person singing Banner from?") but he had no script handy (Murphy's  
law:  it was with the other announcer), so it took a while to get a copy  
from his backpack at the other end of the stands down to the field.

Well, it doesn't much matter now anyway.  Besides, they did manage to  
sneak in one very funny ad lib joke at the end of halftime, when we were  
"mysteriously" kicked off the field:
(Clueless people note highly sarcastic use of Blockbuster slogan)

"And the halftime score, Stanford 14, Penn State 3!
   Wow, what a difference!"

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From: dct@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David C. Tuttle)
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Subject: Re: Ohio University
Date: 7 Jan 1993 16:16:16 GMT
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ferejohn@leland.Stanford.EDU (john ferejohn) writes:

>Calf paralell(sp), instep 10' off the ground.

Ten feet off the ground?!?  I'd pay money to see that!

--
David C. Tuttle              ----> dct@odin.mda.uth.tmc.edu <----
Rice University Marching Owl Band (the MOB) -- 1977-84,86-present
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From: ferejohn@leland.Stanford.EDU (john ferejohn)
Subject: Nice Washington..
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 11:49:43 GMT

Well, that Washington Halftime show looked mighty familliar.  Let's see, 
a western show with a mellodrama at the end.  Golly, that's what Cal did
last year('91), when they played Washington in Berekeley.  What an incredible
coincidence.  Heh.

	Since everone else is talking about it.  The Cal Band sings school
songs anywhere it can as well.  Resturaunts, airports, Ski Lifts.
Nicer variety though.  There are about 14 regularly played/sung Cal songs.
I don't really know how we memorize them, we just do...

         -Chris "Why does that Cal student have a StanfUrd account?" Ferejohn


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From: eric@gaia.gatech.edu (Eric House)
Subject: Re: Field Pyrotechnics 
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:33:08 GMT


At Georgia Tech, our last show of the season was classical music, and we closed
w/ 1812.  One of the campus fraternities has a cannon that uses 12-gauge 
shotgun shells.  We arranged to use it during the Overture.  12-gauge doesn't
sound like much, but it was LOUD.  I was in a line 12 steps off the sideline,
and it lifted the hair on my forehead.  We got a standing ovation at the end,
from the student side of the stadium, which is highly unusual.  We are going
to try to figure out what we can stick cannons into for next year.
From: timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim Castro)
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Subject: Field Pyrotechnics (Was Re: Judge kills)
Date: 8 Jan 1993 22:08:25 GMT
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In article <1993Jan8.191400.20775@news.acns.nwu.edu> mkahn@casbah.acns.nwu.edu 
(Michael Kahn) writes:

[...Horror Story about playing the 1812 Overture...]

>At which point, out of nowhere, came a cannon blast that rocked the entire
>stadium. The band, scared witless, managed somehow to pull it together and
>complete the piece with a straight face.
>


Wow!  You're lucky you got to use real live canons in your show.  
The PAC-10 has a extremely inflexible rule of NO pyrotechnics during
any PAC-10 sponsored event.  However, the Cal Band does have a special 
waiver to use a small flash device (aka "The Bomb") in our Pre-Game 
show, provided a licensed pyrotechnician detonates it.

Unfortunately, the waiver only applies to Pre-Game.  In 1987 the
Cal Band performed the 1812 Overture without canons, explosions
or any of the pyrotechnics you have come to associate with it.
We tried to simulate canon explosions by striking a large,
stationary concert bass drum, but it just wasn't the same.

How many other bands out there use pyrotechnics in their shows?

--Tim
Cal Band 
1986-1990


-- 
Tim Castro		    *   "When the air becomes uranious
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timc@ocf.Berkeley.EDU       *           --Tom Lehrer, 1958
From: tonyamm@carson.u.washington.edu (Tonya May)
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Subject: Re: UCLA fight songs (was: UCLA rumor)
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:43:02 GMT
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In article <20624@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> jakilpat@tostada.engr.ucdavis.edu (John Andrew Kilpatrick) writes:
>and some other.  Also, when we eat together as a band in public, when we are
>done we have to sing Sons of California.  You should see the looks this gets
>us when we do in at McDonalds.

  No doubt!!  The University of Washington has a tradition of singing "Bow
Down To Washington" after a meal at which many band members are in attendence.
Some places are not appreciative of our singing, as we were almost kicked out
of a McDonald's in Spokane a few years ago.  The only reason the manager would
give us was because we were disturbing the customers - the customers gave us a
standing ovation for our brief "disturbance".

  As for singing our shows, the first few times we do walk throughs for a new
show, we sing the music (as well as yell out the numbers).  We actually played
the introduction to "Bow Down To Washington" and then sang the tune once in
the Rose Parade this year.  Very untypical for the UW - even in a long parade.

  I saw Michigan march by this year - not everyone was moving (and no one
was playing except the drummers) but the back rows were dancing around in a
dance that looked similar to the "electric slide".  Their halftime show was
very entertaining, but I wish that they would do a new pregame show this year's
looked very familiar.  

  Congrats to Michigan for winning, you guys played a damn good game.

Tonya May
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From: jmiller@afit.af.mil (Jeffrey C Miller)
Subject: Re: Stanford Shows (was Band Announcers)
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:07:29 GMT

In article <18559652@um.cc.umich.edu> R.Vincent.Lamb@um.cc.umich.edu writes:

> 
>Would you like some history?  Here is the text from the halftime show
>of the UCLA-Stanford game in 1980 (as best as I remember it):
> 
>(Over the band running onto the field)
>"The Incomparable Leland Stanford Junior University Marching Band 
>celebrates the Presidential Election year by saluting the three
>candidates.  Today, we dedicate our performance to Ronald Reagan
>and begin our show by spelling out his name.  Mr. Reagan has made
>many women in Suffragette City with his stand on the ERA."
> 
>(Band plays Bowie's "Suffragette City".  Starts in REAGAN formation
>and then changes it to ERA GONE.)
> 
>(Over band running into next formation)  "Mr. Reagan has made his
>views on evolution known by saying `It's only a theory.'  He has
>other ideas on Mankind's beginnings."
> 
>(Band plays Chicago's "Beginnings".  Band first forms ADAM AND EVE,
>then I DAM EVO, and finally I AM DEVO.)
> 
>"Mr. Reagan has said that trees pollute more than cars and has called
>on our beloved Stanford Redwood Tree to change its evil ways."
> 
>(Band plays Santana's Evil Ways.  Starts in Redwood tree formation,
>then "nukes" it, forming a (magic) mushroom (cloud)).
> 
>"If elected, Ronald Reagan will be the oldest president in US history.
>He says this won't affect his performance.  We think otherwise."
> 
>(Band plays "Birthday" by The Beatles.  Spells out RON AT 69
>(sideways!) and then spells out RIP IN 81.)
> 
>"In the interest of fairness, we will salute President Jimmy Carter
>and independent John Anderson in future shows."
> 
>Hope this has been amusing and educational.
> 
>Rich Lamb

But, Rich, you forgot *OUR* side of the show...our very own salute to 
punk rock (presented as a takeoff on the LSJUMB), complete with "Disco
Sucks!" (or was that "This show sucks!" ? ;-) ).

Jeff

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From: elmanad@leland.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: LAME
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 23:51:15 GMT

jakilpat@tostada.engr.ucdavis.edu (John Andrew Kilpatrick) writes:
: Tonight was the first time in a long time that I have been able to make it to
: a band event, and I heard about something.  Seems like all of the schools in
: our conference decided to vote for basketball season and say that a band can
: only bring 25 people to a game.
:  
[...]

That does suck.

The NCAA has similar rules for tournaments -- we can only take 30 to
the women's basketball tourney, which kinda sucks. (It means I don't
get to go to the regionals. :-( ) We can also only take 30 to our
usual LA trip this year, but I'm not sure if that's NCAA or our own
athletic department.

If I'm not mistaken, the actual rule is that bands can only have 30
people playing at one time, but it is _very_ rarely enforced for the
home band at a regular-season game, and rarely enforced for any bands
at regular season games.

Anyone else have any ideas on that?

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu


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From: schmasey@leland.Stanford.EDU (Casey Carlton O'Hara)
Subject: Frisbee dogs (was Re: The Television Ate Our Show...)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 22:50:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.221854.27699@cis.ohio-state.edu> csmith@anaconda.cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith) writes:
>>>Television? NO THANK YOU!
>>>Any other tales of woe out there?  Any GOOD experiences?
>
>I think TV covers college games the same way they cover Pro games, because
>they want to used the same crews. And since most pro games have very boring
>halftime shows (like frisbee dogs, or passing contests) they break away. Also,

I'm glad frisbee dogs are a national phenomenon.  When we were
suspended from the Washington State game in 1990 (after our Spotted
Owl show was not well-received at Oregon), the Stanford athletic
department wisely chose to replace us at halftime with those wacky
frisbee dogs.  The fifteen thousand people at that game (in an 87000
person stadium) responded to it with an amazing round of indifference.
In the meantime, the Stanford Band, after playing the National Anthem
(solo trumpet on top of a motor home), hopped into ten or so cars and
roadtripped to Santa Barbara to play for our women's soccer team in
the NCAA first round playoffs.  They lost, but they appreciated us
much more than the football team ever lets on.
-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   __________/  bonz R godz!  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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schmasey@leland.stanford.edu             _|_|___________)
Disclaimer:  All opinions expressed here are yours.   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From: dcosley@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel R Cosley)
Subject: Re: Parades and Playing frequency
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:29:35 GMT

I was there at the 1991 Macy's Parade with the DCM All-Stars also, and it was 
damn loud.

Dan Cosley
Northmen, contrabass, 1988-91
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From: jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu))
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Subject: Re: Frisbee dogs (was Re: The Television Ate Our Show...)
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Date: 11 Jan 1993 18:50:12 GMT
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In article <1993Jan9.225038.20200@leland.Stanford.EDU>,
schmasey@leland.Stanford.EDU (Casey Carlton O'Hara) wrote:
[other stuff deleted]
> I'm glad frisbee dogs are a national phenomenon.  When we were
> suspended from the Washington State game in 1990 (after our Spotted
> Owl show was not well-received at Oregon), the Stanford athletic
> department wisely chose to replace us at halftime with those wacky
> frisbee dogs.

Will one of you incomparables *please* send me a copy of that Washington
State show?  I am very interested in just what got you banned...

bcnu - grungy (John Gladu)
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From: kgnome@cs.concordia.ca (MATIS stephane)
Subject: Re: Weird places to play...
Organization: Computer Science, Concordia University, Montreal, Quebec
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:56:56 GMT

Speaking of wierd places to play.......

	I was in a drum corps in St.Hubert, Quebec (a 'burb of Montreal)
from 1986 to 1991.  We started out being called "Les 4 As" (the four
aces), and quickly and wisely changed our name to Illizion for our DCI
competition career.  Anyway, while we were still "Les 4 As", we played
at the Veledrome of Montreal (constructed as an indoor cycling track for
the 1976 Summer olympics).  For some reason, they decided to book this
no-name, boring circus for the Christmas season that year (i forget the
year....it dosen't really matter, anyways).  Ever try performing
complicated rhythms while walking single-file down stairs and cutting
between bleacher sections?  Not the easiest thing, I tell you!  The
brass section didn't really have any trouble (except for the contra
player.....he almost fell many times), but the colourguard and the drums
were going through hell!!!  Between our performances, we practiced in
the bathrooms of the Veledrome.  Good accoustics, but not the ideal
playing spot.

BTW:  I am not Stephane Matis.....  He just lets my use his access
sometimes.  My name is Laurie Mair.

"Rusty"
Lead Baritone (on of them)
Provincial Champions Parade and Show 1990, Montreal.
Illuzion rules!!!  Dauphins SUCK!!!
From: jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu))
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Subject: Re: Bowl Bands in California
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Date: 4 Jan 1993 16:59:57 GMT
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In article <1i7sf8INNcd7@charon.usc.edu>, strickle@charon.usc.edu (David
Strickler) wrote:
> 
> Thanks, California bowl bands.  You restore my faith, after a year
> of watching USC.
[deleted Illinois stuff]
> Thanks, Washington, for the rehearsal on a clear morning in
> Anaheim.  I didn't catch your field director's name, but he's the
> first Asian-American I know of directing a major band. 
> Congratulations.
[other deleted stuff]

What do you consider a major band?
Dr. Ken Dye at Rice University (NCAA Division 1, the smallest school in the
division) has been director since 1980 of the MOB (Marching Owl Band), and
he's always been Asian-American.

bcnu - grungy (John Gladu) Rice U. MOBster '73-'92
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From: jgladu@bcm.tmc.edu (grungy (John F. Gladu))
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Subject: Re: Field Pyrotechnics (Was Re: Judge kills)
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Date: 9 Jan 1993 00:20:58 GMT
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In article <1iku0p$8ov@agate.berkeley.edu>, timc@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Tim
Castro) wrote:
> How many other bands out there use pyrotechnics in their shows?

Back in the late '70s the Rice University Concert Band (the springtime
sit-down iteration of the MOB) did the 1812 Overture in Sam Houston Park in
downtown Houston.  An idyllic setting, the band spread out in folding
chairs on the grass and the percussion section in the mid-sized gazebo in
the park.  We had permission from the city Parks department to use
blank-loads in 12g shotguns for the cannon...

Even with percussion people firing them, the timing wasn't *quite* right - 
and several *VERY* excited members of Houston's finest came running to see
what the shooting was about.  Apparently, the Parks department hadn't
bothered to notify the Police department...

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From: ferejohn@leland.Stanford.EDU (john ferejohn)
Subject: Re: Weird places to play...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 11:41:43 GMT

Ha!  By a pool.  You call that wierd?  I was with the Cal (University of
California at Berkeley) Band for one year and I have played...

	Off the top of the campenilie(Berkeley's phallic tower thing)

	Off of a cable car(In San Francisco during the week before Big Game)

	All over Stanford Campus at about 2:00 in the morning(Week before Big 
	Game.

	While skiing down various beginner runs at various Tahoe Ski resorts
	(Cal Band Ski Trip)

	At a bunjee jumping place in Florida.  (Before the 91-92 Citrus Bowl.
	Several Band members jumped themselves(not me, not enough $$), two
	jumped in full uniform.

	At Gymnastics meets(mens and womens)  I don't know many other bands 
	that do(I think Davis does)

Anyway, there are certainly more, Can't think of them right now..
       
                 Chris "There are two million Cal songs" Ferejohn



	

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From: stanford@leland.Stanford.EDU (Scott Stanford)
Subject: Re: Weird places to play...
Organization: none whatsoever
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Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 20:53:08 GMT

In article <##> jakilpat@taco.engr.ucdavis.edu (John Andrew Kilpatrick) writes:

>In article <####> ferejohn@leland.Stanford.EDU (john ferejohn) writes:
>>Ha!  By a pool.  You call that wierd?  I was with the Cal (University of
>>California at Berkeley) Band for one year and I have played...
>>	At Gymnastics meets(mens and womens)  I don't know many other bands 
>>	that do(I think Davis does)
>
>Yep, we do.  We also play for volleyball.  I don't think we do golf tho...

We did tennis.  Once.  The players got a bit annoyed when we'd yell
out "Bounce" everytime they bounced the ball before serving.  We've
done gymnastics meets, hockey, soccer, volleyball, baseball and a few
others.  Unfortunately, the A.D. really wants us at as many basketball
games as possible, which limits our available time to hit some of the
"not-so-famous" sports.

We also play in pools (there's a great photo of one of our bonz
playing from underwater to the surface), on trailers, from Hoover
Tower, in libraries, in trees, on beaches, in computer clusters, and
(according to legend) in the steam tunnels.  Airports, 7-11s, and
others have had the joy of the Stanford Band frollicking inside at
full blast.  Name a place, we been there (or will soon :-).

As to singing school fight songs in McDonalds - why bother?

	Blah blah blah blah my school
	Blah blah blah my school again
	blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
	blah blah blah blah blah (fight fight fight)
	Blah blah blah blah my school
	Blah blah the refrain
	Blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
	Blah blah blah blah blah.  Hey!

If you want weird looks, try Rally Clothes (tm).

Scott "Casey's bringing the Dr. Pepper tonight.  Hope we have enough
Jim Beam" Stanford
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                             ((|,) If he hollers...yeah whatEVER.
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