From: jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni)
Subject: Re: BACK TO LIMBAUGH'S SECRET NONAGENDA
Organization: The Department of Redundancy Department
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 21:49:40 GMT

In article <EGGERTJ.92Aug13154746@moses.atc.ll.mit.edu> eggertj@atc.ll.mit.edu writes:
>In article <1992Aug13.011213.24260@bony1.bony.com> jake@bony1.bony.com (Jake Livni) writes:

>No?  The Palestinian terrorism started when the Palestinians started
>feeling threatened (rightly or wrongly) by Jewish immigrants to
>Palestine, 

Palestinean Arabs, like other Arabs, have for centuries resorted to
gross violence for the solution of even minor disputes.  Jewish
immigration is only an excuse for bad behavior, and a poor excuse, at
that. 

>started a new and more vicious course when they lost their country, 

When you can tell us when in history there was a country called
Palestine, where it's borders were, who it's kings or presidents were,
and when they "lost their country", the net would be most appreciative.

>and continues to this day.

Wow.  Palestinean terrorism "continues to this day."  That's some real
progress, Jim.

>>   Even if Zionist attacks did hurt civilians, they are not the same as
>>   the deliberate, murderous and proudly malicious attacks that the PLO
>>   has been dumping on the Israelis, the Jews and the rest of the world
>>   for several decades.  You cannot equate them.
>
>So you do admit that Zionist attacks did hurt civilians.  Good boy.
>Now it isn't so far any more to saying that these attacks hurt Arab
>civilians, and just another step to say that this was the intention of
>the attacks, and that the Arabs were killed, and that no apology was
>given.  That makes the attacks deliberate, murderous, and proudly
>malicious.

And another step to say that the 3 million Israelis are trying to
annihilate the 200 million Arabs so that they can control the M.E. and
then go on to control the world.  You've been way off course ever
since you left the first line.

While Arab murderers routinely cry out "Itbach al Yahud!  Allahu
Akbar!" (Slaughter the Jews!  God is great!) when killing Jews, no
such behavior is apparent on the Israeli side.  How blind or hateful
are you that you are still trying to compare the 2 sides?

>>   ...You carefully edited out my questions to you:
>>
>>     >Ask Yasser Arafat.  He is the one that routinely described school 
>>     >buses in Israel as "military targets".  As for political figures,
>>     >is it American, French and Israeli diplomats and embassies that 
>>     >get blown up or Arab targets?  Are these acts of Arab terrorism
>>     >or war?
>
>The former.  Just as the Israeli attacks on US offices in Cairo and
>Alexandria were terrorism.

When you have to dig into pre-history to find anything that vaguely
resembles the continuing and current modus-operandi of the PLO, it
shows how weak your argument is.  

Israel has been at least as decent a member of the community of
nations as any other decent country.  Most Arab countries have been
left far behind and the people who are suffering the most from all
this are the Arab people themselves.  If you cared at all for helping
the Arabs instead of hurting the Jews, you would have more to say
about Arab terrorism and state-persecution.  But your priorities are
obviously different. 

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