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From: root@hamlet ()
Subject: Re: PS Viewer
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 12:54:46 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Alois Steindl (asteindl@mch2ws2.tuwien.ac.at) wrote:
: In article <1992Sep10.080934.3339@meteor.wisc.edu> mjo@snclib.snc.edu (Mike O'Connor) writes:
: 
:    In article <18l48fINNitr@spool.mu.edu> craig@spool.mu.edu (Craig Schanning) writes:
:    :	Is there a PD PostScript viewer available for AIX?
:    :
:    :Please send responses to pwickman@cerebus.cc.edu
: 
:    I'm sure that someone's filled his mailbox with "Ghostscript" and
:    "Ghostview" -- if nothing else, I've mailed him.  What I wonder is
:    why IBM ships Display Postscript and yet doesn't ship a tool to
:    *view* Postscript!  DEC and Sun certainly don't have this problem.
:    Any comments?
: 
:    -- 
:    Mike O'Connor
:    "The NNTP Administrator"
:    <mjo@snclib.snc.edu>
: 
: There is a tool: dpsexec.
: It isn't very convenient to use, but works.
: I use it in the way
: /usr/lpp/DPS/bin/dpsexec 
: 
: > (filename) run
: ^D
: 
: Enjoy it!
: Alois
: --
: 
: ___________________________________________________________________________
: 
: Alois Steindl,			Tel.: (0222) 58801 / 5529	
: Inst. for Mechanics II,		Fax.: (0222) 5875863
: TU Vienna,
: A-1040 Wiedner Hauptstr. 8-10	
: ___________________________________________________________________________

Yes, the RS6000 (3.1.5) does have dpsexec, however, I can't get it to run on
an X-Station.  Ghostview/ghostscript have no problems using the X-Station.

Brian Wilson
<brian2@cc.bellcore.com>
From: aroby@andersen.co.uk (Tony Roby)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Socket Problem
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:00:50 GMT
Organization: Andersen Consulting (UK Practice)


Does anyone have any clues as to why we experience the following problem
using sockets on AIX 3.2.1 ?  

We send a message, consisting of a header and data in two parts onto a
socket.  The receiver receives the message in two parts.  The header
is always 64 bytes long.  When the data portion is 1451 bytes long (or less)
the response time is more than when the data portion is 1452 bytes long; 'more'
means consistently longer by about .2 of a second.  The same thing happens
for data portions 1453-2903 bytes long, but data portions 2904 bytes and 
longer have good response times.  We are running over Token Ring and the 
maximum IP packet size for TCP/IP is 1492 bytes (is this a clue ?).

When we combine the header and the data in one message, response times are
consistent over all message sizes.

Any ideas would be welcome.

Tony
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: rick@mel1.geg.mot.com (Rick Rankin)
Subject: Re: Can't get xdm to work - help wanted
Organization: Motorola, Mech. Eng. Lab.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:18:26 GMT
Keywords: xdm

In article <alb.24.716133148@uvm.edu>, alb@uvm.edu (Allan L. Bazinet) writes:
|> Would some kind soul please explain to me how to get xdm to work on AIX 3.2,
|> X11R4?  The documentation is sketchy, and the support center doesn't do
|> X windows, apparently.  My local SE does them even less :).
|> 
|> Basically, I've got the daemon running, and all of the config files are in
|> /usr/lib/X11/xdm.  I have no entries in my Xservers file, as the system in
|> question is a fileserver, and our Xterm 130's do XDMCP.  From my 
|> understanding of the manpage, I don't need any entries with this 
|> configuration.
|> 
|> I get a login window, and the login authentication works fine.  However, 
|> after a successful login, there is a pause, a blink, and the login
|> screen is presented again.  This can be repeated any number of times.
|> 
|> My config files are very plain-vanilla.  Rebooting the @#$%@% Xterm every
|> time I log out is getting very old indeed; I'd like to get xdm working.
|> 
|> -------------------------------------
|> Allan Bazinet, University of Vermont
|> 'We look for things -- to make us go.'

I'm using the X11R5 version of xdm and I've not used the R4 version, so I'm not sure
that my advice will apply to you, but here goes...

There should be a file in your home directory called "$HOME/.xsession".  This file
contains various programs you want to have executed when the X server starts, similar
to a .profile file.  When an error occurs, a file called ".xsession-errors" should be
created in your home directory also.  Looking at this file may give you some clues as
to what's happening.  If the .xsession file exists, it must be executable, i.e.,

	chmod a+x .xsession

If the .xsession file is not executable, it will result in exactly the symptom you
describe.

I don't know if this will help, but good luck.

Rick Rankin
Motorola
602-441-5726
rick@mel1.geg.mot.com
From: jaime@unicorn.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Moving volume groups between disks
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:31:05 GMT
Reply-To: jaime@austin.vnet.ibm.com
Organization: AIX Technical Support - Austin

In article <1992Sep4.234806.3359@otago.ac.nz>, infoian@otago.ac.nz (Ian
G. Connelly) writes:
> Subject: Moving volume groups between disks
> From: infoian@otago.ac.nz (Ian G. Connelly)
> 
> Hi,
> 
> What is the best way to move a volume group from two small disks on
our server
> to one BIG disk?
> 
>  We currently have two 320 disks for AIX/CATIA/Misc Scripts and programs that
> go to make up the rootvg.  We also have two 857 disks that contain all
the user
> data and configuration of CATIA.  And I would like to move all the data from
> the two 857 disks to a 2Gig, preserving the logical
volumes/filesystems in the
> same format/size (this must be done as painlessly as possible, and the server
> is vital to our operations so it must be done reliably).
> 
>  Then we will be removing the 320 disks and installing AIX on one of the 857
> disks.  All this has come about because SCSI only lets us attach 7 devices to
> one card and we now have 8!! (2x320,2x857,2x2Gig,tape,CD).
> 
> Any tips for this operation gratefully accepted.
> 
> thanx
> 
>
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> Range & Dishwasher Division, Fisher & Paykel,  Phone : (03) 489-3819
> Private Bag, Mosigiel, Dunedin, New Zealand.   Fax   : (03) 489-7611
>
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> 

Look into the 'migratepv' command.  It tells how it's done.  And it is very 
painless.  Post or e-mail if you have any additional questions.

Jaime Vazquez			
AIX Technical Support          
IBM AWD-Austin/2830             
6000:  jaime@unicorn.austin.ibm.com     <-- New machine address
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From: jbf@wts.com (Jens B. Fiederer)
Subject: Re: What Does IBMR2 Mean?
Keywords: IBMR2
Organization: Wegmans Transaction Services
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:40:13 GMT

In article <BuFt5w.AzC@storcon.uucp> john@storcon.UUCP (John Hunley) writes:
>ones such as "SUN3" and "VAX" I can figure out, but which one do I choose for
>my RS/6000-AIX 3.2 combination?  The possible candidates are "AIX386," "IBMRT,"
>and  "IBMR2."  (Is there really an AIX for the 386?)
>
AIX386 refers to the AIX running on the IBM PS/2 machines, which use 386
family CPUs.  IBMRT would be for the old AIX on the old RT (RISC Technology),
a machine that never really got popular.  My guess is they call the RS/6000
IBMR2 because it was their second try at a RISC machine....

Jens
Note:  Except for the bit about the PS/2, which I have used, the above is
speculation...
From: paw@coos.dartmouth.edu (Pat Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: PTF hell
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:38:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Project NORTHSTAR
Originator: paw@coos.dartmouth.edu


This is getting to be a good candidate for the FAQ - what are the
differences between the PTFs on the AIX 3.2.1 tape and those on 3.2.2?
Is there a list somewhere that some kind soul could provide?  If an update
is made to a PTF (apar set), does the PTF then get a new number, or
should I <ick> go re-do all the PTFs I've already got on the 3.2.1
system from the 3.2.2 tape?

I know this must have seemed a good idea at the time, but this
scheme of weird PTFs and no version numbers is driving me **crazy**!
It would be _very_ nice to have a "new in this version" list - it could
even be hardcopy, as long as I could get to it...

-- 
Pat Wilson
Systems Manager, Project NORTHSTAR
paw@northstar.dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: fred@dickens.com (Fred R Stearns)
Subject: Re: Unreadable Directories
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 11:31:52 GMT
Organization: Dickens Data Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep8.225502.17427@ucc.su.OZ.AU> wonga@steam.chem.su.oz.au (Adrian Wong) writes:
>I have a corrupted directory, when I do a ls it returns with 
>
> unreadable 

If it (actually) says:

. unreadable

then you're probably missing the "." entry in your directory.
From its parent, try:

/etc/link foo foo/.

>
>and pwd also doesn't work. However I can still
>cd into any of the sub-directories and everything else is fine.
>It's not a NFS mount.
>
>How do I remedy the problem?
>Thanks
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Adrian Wong, Dept.of Theoretical Chemistry     wong_a@summer.chem.su.oz.au
>University of Sydney NSW 2006 Australia        061-2-692 4137


-- 
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Everything's a kludge!
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From: mvarg@ctp.com (Michael Vargo)
Subject: PC Dropping from RS6000 running AIX 3.2 through token ring(TCP/IP)
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:18:04 GMT
Organization: Cambridge Technology Partners

Has anyone see or heard of this before? Any help is GREATLY appreciated.

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From: vinj@natinst.com (Vineet Jain)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: FOR SALE: high performance SCXI hard drive (400MB)
Date: 8 Sep 1992 18:32:01 -0500
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
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From: martelli@cadlab.sublink.org (Alex Martelli)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: AIX malloc and fault tolerance
Date: 10 Sep 92 10:57:31 GMT
Organization: CAD.LAB S.p.A., Bologna, Italia

kdenning@portal.hq.videocart.com (Karl Denninger) writes:
	...
:>    4) Even if I use this malloc wrapper everywhere in my own code,
:>       how do I deal with third-party code I purchase that calls the
:>       unwrapped malloc?
:
:You don't, other than to allow it to die.  Oh, you had something >important<
:in that program going on, like perhaps a financial transaction?  Too bad --
:that SIGKILL you just received can't be caught!  So much for reliable
:software.

Exactly!

:This is one of the reasons I hate AIX.  There are lots of them, but this is

I don't have any other important reason for AIX-hating, but the horrendously
bogous malloc() semantics may be enough...

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: jar@inel.gov (Jeffry A Rich)
Subject: CD 'X' Interface needed
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 15:58:00 GMT

Does anyone know where to obtain an X interface to the CD device? I would like to play some music CDs with it once in a while but need an interface like the ones you can get for DEC and SUN. Thanks.

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  JR Rich
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From: prener@watson.ibm.com (Dan Prener)
Subject: Re: gcc 2.2.2 wierd -g problem
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 06:05:12 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center, Hawthorne, New York

In article <1992Sep13.010136.1614@tamsun.tamu.edu> jhardin@csrp.tamu.edu (James Hardin) writes:

>  I am having a problem compiling a large program with gcc version 2.2.2
>using only the -g option. This is a big program (75,000 lines) and in one
>of the later files during the make, I get:

>  Assembler:
>    /tmp/ccRkEDmb.s: line 195: branch address out of range

>What does this mean?!? If I compile the offending file by hand, I get the
>same message. If I instead use -O on the offending file and then restart
>the make (which uses -g), then everything is fine. Is something wrong here?
>I should say that the offending file does nothing unusual - includes only
>the stdio.h file. Is this bizarre or is there something fundamentally wrong with
>the gcc installation?

If we take the assembler error message at face value, then what it means
is that there is a branch that must reach over more than the +/- 32 MBytes
that the 26-bit displacement field in a relative branch allows.  This is
consistent with the fact that it all works when you compile with -O, since
optimization usually reduces the total volume of program text.
--
                                   Dan Prener (prener@watson.ibm.com)
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From: franco@fx.com (Frank Minjarez)
Subject: using kernex.exp
Keywords: linking 
Organization: FXD/Telerate, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:05:55 GMT

This is probably a bonehead question so hopefully I'll get a lot replies.

I'm trying to use the kernel extension "pinu" subroutine in an application
to lock a mapped file into memory.  However, the pinu subroutine call causes
a segmentation violation.  My compile/link looks like this:

	cc -c test.c
	ld -o test test.o -bI:/lib/kernex.exp

If this is totally wrong and I can't link an application like this then
does anyone know of an AIX equivalent to mlock.

thanks,
--f
Xref: sparky comp.unix.aix:9551 comp.mail.mh:1108
From: anselmo@nic.near.net (Ed Anselmo)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.mail.mh
Subject: Re: mh 6.7.2 patches for aix 3.2.2
Date: 10 Sep 1992 16:42:59 -0400
Organization: NEARnet, Cambridge, MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nic.near.net
In-reply-to: wohler@sapwdf.UUCP's message of 10 Sep 92 14:09:17 GMT

>>>>> On 10 Sep 92 14:09:17 GMT, wohler@sapwdf.UUCP (Bill Wohler) said:

Bill>   i have patches for 6.7.0 under 3.1.  people have complained
Bill> that these patches do *not* work for 6.7.2 under 3.2.  someone
Bill> was nice enough to mail me corrected patches, but i, er, lost
Bill> them.  i've also forgotten the name of the person who mailed
Bill> those to me, so could you please mail those patches to me again,
Bill> whoever you were?  then i can get back in the business of
Bill> distributing these patches after testing it on my distribution
Bill> (these shouldn't be necessary after 6.7.3, eh john?)

That person might have been me, when I was "anselmo-ed@cs.yale.edu".
After a few* passes, I got MH to build under AIX 3.2 with two warnings
that I was too tired/lazy to work on.  POP support and everything.
I've re-sent the patches to Bill.

* the clean build occurred on version "6.7.2 #47", after which I did
another "make clean;make" just to make sure I wasn't dreaming, so the
version I finally installed was "6.7.2 #48".  A mere 48 passes through
the configure/edit/make process and I was done....
Xref: sparky comp.unix.aix:9499 comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt:470
From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix,comp.sys.ibm.pc.rt
Subject: Re: gcc for the IBM RT
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:17:46 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization


In article <1992Sep9.001128.13377@athena.mit.edu> jfc@athena.mit.edu
(John F Carr) writes:
>
> This question has been asked many times before.  Given the persistent
> lack of volunteers to port gcc to AIX 2, I think it is safe to say
> that gcc does not supoort the RT running AIX and never will.

Given that it runs on the RT under ACIS, the largest part of the port
has already been done.  Maybe someone will volunteer to finish the job.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
From: asteindl@mch2ws2.tuwien.ac.at (Alois Steindl)
Subject: Re: PS Viewer
Organization: Inst. f. Mechanics II, TU Vienna
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:33:14 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.080934.3339@meteor.wisc.edu> mjo@snclib.snc.edu (Mike O'Connor) writes:

   In article <18l48fINNitr@spool.mu.edu> craig@spool.mu.edu (Craig Schanning) writes:
   :	Is there a PD PostScript viewer available for AIX?
   :
   :Please send responses to pwickman@cerebus.cc.edu

   I'm sure that someone's filled his mailbox with "Ghostscript" and
   "Ghostview" -- if nothing else, I've mailed him.  What I wonder is
   why IBM ships Display Postscript and yet doesn't ship a tool to
   *view* Postscript!  DEC and Sun certainly don't have this problem.
   Any comments?

   -- 
   Mike O'Connor
   "The NNTP Administrator"
   <mjo@snclib.snc.edu>

There is a tool: dpsexec.
It isn't very convenient to use, but works.
I use it in the way
/usr/lpp/DPS/bin/dpsexec 

> (filename) run
^D

Enjoy it!
Alois
--

___________________________________________________________________________

Alois Steindl,			Tel.: (0222) 58801 / 5529	
Inst. for Mechanics II,		Fax.: (0222) 5875863
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From: mycroft@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Charles Hannum)
Subject: Re: What Does IBMR2 Mean?
Keywords: IBMR2
Organization: /etc/organization
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:45:02 GMT


In article <BuFt5w.AzC@storcon.uucp> john@storcon.UUCP (John Hunley)
writes:
>
> It seems very few freeware packages compile on the RS/6000 without
> extensive porting, so most people don't bother.

Actually, you're wrong.  I've personally compiled hundreds of megabytes
of free software on the RS/6000.  I'd say about 1/2 compiled with no
changes other than configuration, another 1/4 were buggy, and the other
1/4 required slightly more effort.  Only a *very few* packages required
a significant amount of effort to get running--and this was often due
to compiler bugs which have since been fixed.

In the above, I'm not considering packages like GCC and X, which are
hardware dependent.  They've been ported anyway.

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From: rob@dinner.asrc.albany.edu (Robert D. Seals)
Subject: Re: PS Viewer
Organization: SUNYA - ASRC, Albany, NY
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 16:17:41 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.080934.3339@meteor.wisc.edu> Mike O'Connor <mjo@snclib.snc.edu> writes:
>In article <18l48fINNitr@spool.mu.edu> craig@spool.mu.edu (Craig Schanning) writes:
>:	Is there a PD PostScript viewer available for AIX?
>:
>
>why IBM ships Display Postscript and yet doesn't ship a tool to


Duh. Try 'xpreview'. Works about as well as pageview, which is to say,
not always waht one expects, but quite usable.

rob

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From: konopik@konopik.austin.ibm.com (Brad Konopik)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aix
Subject: Re: Help with slip
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:01:44 GMT
Organization: IBM AIX Porting Center, Austin

In article <658@teldata.UUCP> joubert@teldata.UUCP (Joubert Berger) writes:
>I need some help getting slip to work properly.  
>
>	 But when I telnet to the machine I get a slight delay
>	 between when I type a character and when it shows up 
>	 on the screen.  This is very annoying (sp??).  
>
>        If I connect the two machines with a direct serial cable,
>	 I don't have this problem.  So it looks like to has
>	 to be something with the modems.  But what???

By your note, I'm not sure if you get similar delays in both directions.

My experience is that modems with compression can induce artificial delays
by waiting for a bunch of characters to accumulate to allow the data
stream to be compressed efficiently.  Some modems allow you to tune such
things as packet-size and time-to-wait-for-characters (modem makers have
have their own special terminology).  You might have to break out the
modem tech ref manual and spend a weekend tuning it to optimize keystroke
delay...but that will probably NOT be optimal for file transfers.  

Also, if your attaching this to a 64-port adapter, you better crank the
speed down from 38.4 to at least 19.2 (maybe 9600).  The 64-port does NOT
handle continuous input at 38.4 well.

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From: kaminsky-david@CS.YALE.EDU (David Kaminsky)
Subject: Getting the load average
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:47:51 GMT

	I need to get the load average of an RS6000 running AIX.
I have a procedure now that makes an RPC call to
the rstatd to get the load.  However, the rstatd seems 
undependable (it fails periodically).  Parsing the 
output from (e.g.) uptime is too slow since I must
get the load repeatedly.

	Is there another way to get the load average?
How does rstatd get it?


Thanks a lot,
David


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From: mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF])
Subject: Re: Getting the load average
Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo, Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:32:04 GMT

kaminsky-david@CS.YALE.EDU (David Kaminsky) writes:
>	I need to get the load average of an RS6000 running AIX.
>I have a procedure now that makes an RPC call to
>the rstatd to get the load.  However, the rstatd seems 
>undependable (it fails periodically).  Parsing the 
>output from (e.g.) uptime is too slow since I must
>get the load repeatedly.
>
>	Is there another way to get the load average?
>How does rstatd get it?

Most programs I know, including uptime, get the load average from a search
of the kernel memory (/dev/kmem) which contains the load average information
updated every five seconds.  I've not tried it on AIX, though.  You can
get the location from a namelist in the kernel file (/unix).

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