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From: flournoy@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Raymond Suke Flournoy)
Subject: Re: Three-Men and a baby(has a ghost!)
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 23:57:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.225400.2780@cs.unca.edu> streeter@cs.unca.edu (Tom Streeter) writes:
>In article <1992Aug23.024758.26592@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umsister@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Sisterson) writes:
>>In the movie Three Men and a Baby, during one of the shots that pan
>>the men's appartment, a little boy can be seen half-in-half-out of
>>a window.   He is very shadowy.  I have seen it for myself.  
>
>You are seeing a cardboard cutout of Ted Dansen put in the window as a
>joke.  See the alt.folkore.urban FAQ for more details.


  Oh good, some a.f.u people are here on this group!  I was hoping
someone could give any opinions or any history about some of the
stories that have been posted.  Some of them sure sound like urban
legends to me, although I do admit that the number of
friend-of-a-friend stories (a sure sign of a UL) has been very low.


--Raymond Flournoy        
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flournoy@cs.stanford.edu         "For reasons I cannot explain
Computer Science Dept.            There's some part of me wants to see 
Stanford University, CA           Graceland"               -- P. Simon

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: jhugart@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Jacob Hugart)
Subject: "Ghost Response" (was Re: Moody's Light)
Keywords: Ghost, Modern, Weird, Psychology, Fear
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 19:29:59 GMT

martyp@engin.umich.edu (Martin Pochmara) writes:

> [...stuff deleted...]
>disappeared into thin air. Needless to say, I got out of there very 
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>fast! I went back a few days later, but only with a large group of
 ^^^^^
> [...stuff deleted...]

Ever wonder why people have this response to alleged ghosts?  (No offense
intended.)  If you see a rainbow, a phenomena which is certainly ephemeral, you
don't feel fear.  Some people have responded that some ghosts make them feel
calm and at peace, but the far more prevalent reaction is fear.

Is this because ghosts are inherently fearful?  Something similar would be a
reaction to a large, charging animal...a fight-or-flight response.  Or is it
that we have learned that ghosts are terrifying, creatures out to get us, like
the vampires and werewolves of folklore?

It seems that *some* ghosts are malevolent enough to instill fear in humans, at
least according to the posts in this group.  But others, like the Moody's light
ghost I'm following up, don't seem to be threatening, even though the informant
decided to flee.  Notice that the second time the informant encountered the
ghost, he had more friends and drove after the ghost...maybe he scared the
ghost?

Jacob

-- 
Jacob Hugart  <jacob-hugart@uiowa.edu>
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Other actors who auditioned for the part of Jean-Luc Picard:
Telly Savallas - "Who loves ya, mister?"
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: christin@cae.wisc.edu (Christine Haas)
Subject: Re: Ouija Boards
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering
Distribution: usa
Date: 30 Aug 92 14:35:34 CDT

In article <1992Aug29.094012.172591@zeus.calpoly.edu> jhosee@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jeffrey Yang Ho-See) writes:
>I just read a ouija board story, which makes me want to hear more of them!
>Anyone got some good ones? My friend said he asked the spirit
>on his ouija board it's name and it went to a "6", "6", and he flipped
>the board before it could go to the next character. My friend
>said always ask who the spirit is before you play. Is that true?
>
>- Jeffrey

I hate oiuja boards and refuse to play with them anymore.

Anyone see the movie Witchboard??  Really freaky movie - good
for a good scare if you are in that kind of mood.  If you are
suceptible to nightmares after those kind of movies, though, I
wouldn't recommend watching it!  I never have nightmares, but I
did after that movie!
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: beowulf@wam.umd.edu (amealuh)
Subject: movie ghosties! (wass: Three-Men and a baby)
Organization: Making tomorrow's mistakes today!
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 23:22:01 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.222904.7066@news.nd.edu> wlamonac@bach.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca) writes:
>
>Not this again!  That's not a ghost- it's a cardboard standup of Ted Danson.
>I've seen a picture of Ted standing next to the standup which is standing in
>the window in the same spot that the "ghost" is seen in the film.
>

actually, you were both right - it's a cardboad cutout, but it *is* a
little boy. they filmed a commercial on the set and later on
when the rumour mill got started, they didn't do any explanations of
it cos A) it saved face and B) generated ticket sales. you can see it
in a scene where ted danson is standing in a big, bright, airy room, holding
the baby. off to the left is a little boy standing (well, leaning) on
the wall by a window. i think a neighbor has come to visit in that 
scene, or something.

i've heard an old rumour that in The Wizard Of Oz, a man hung himself
on the set somewhere in the movie and they didn't edit it out, so you
can see him swinging in the background. i think this is bogus, since i
went through the entire movie and didn't see a thing, and i was looking
for it. also, i figure there'd have been a bigger flap over it than
this. anyone know any different?

beo

-- 
		I don't love you anymore since you ate my dog.
beowulf@wam.umd.edu					    beowulf@eng.umd.edu
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Subject: Re: Scariest movie
Originator: smintz@alamo
Organization: Intel Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 21:48:14 GMT


Two movies come to my mind, Haunting of hell house, and the haunting of
Julia...that was very suspencful!! :)
Keep your spirits high, you all!!
Stephen
From: wlamonac@bach.helios.nd.edu (william lamonaca)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Three-Men and a baby(has a ghost!)
Date: 23 Aug 92 22:29:04 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame

In article <1992Aug23.024758.26592@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umsister@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Sisterson) writes:
>In the movie Three Men and a Baby, during one of the shots that pan
>the men's appartment, a little boy can be seen half-in-half-out of
>a window.   He is very shadowy.  I have seen it for myself.  
>
>You have to pan thru each frame very slowly (during the shots of the
>appartment).  It gives me the spooks.
>
>Apparently, none of the actor saw anybody or anything during the taping.
>It was on some of the news programs like Entertainment Tonight a few years
>back.  Rent it and check it out.
>

Not this again!  That's not a ghost- it's a cardboard standup of Ted Danson.
I've seen a picture of Ted standing next to the standup which is standing in
the window in the same spot that the "ghost" is seen in the film.

I know the rumor that it's actually the ghost of a little boy who died in the
house where the movie was filmed.  However, this little tale falls apart when
you realize that the house was actually a soundstage and not a real building
at all.
From: kmoore@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Kyle E Moore)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: PLEASE leave out crop circles, etc...
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:30:54 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University


     C'mon, seriously, there's other places for discussions about crop circles 
and your favorite scary movies, aren't there?  Or at least E-mail 'em to each 
other.

     Much Grass,

     K-Mo

 "The less you know, the less you have to worry about other people's problems."
     - C.J. Daniels, Professor of Microbiology, OSU
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: z8tah@zohar.gsfc.nasa.gov (Theresa A. Held)
Subject: Re: Scariest movie
Reply-To: z8tah@calvin.gsfc.nasa.gov 
Organization: NASA/GSFC NCCS
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:01:24 GMT

I agree with Ms. Levy.  _Threads_ was much more realistic/
depressing/scary than _the Day After_.  It dealt with more 
the longterm negative effects.  Not just surviving the 
first year but decades later.

In terms of the most scary movie for me was _Night of the
Triffids_ (sp?).  Anyone remember this movie?   The world
as we know it ends because 95% of all people go blind.

The triffids (fleash eating plants), get rid of most the
blinded people.
From: cosborn@dante.nmsu.edu (Cecelia Osborn)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: a ghost called Mary Worth
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:01:28 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University, Las Cruces, NM


 I remember this story from my childhood. I never had the guts
to try it, except in a darkened room during the day. I remember
it spooking me then. The story brought back that feeling. I 
want to hear more!!
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From: FURRJK@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: charter for alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:21:48 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science


The charter of alt.folklore.ghost-stories is as follows:

Alt.folklore.ghost-stories is intended to provide a forum for discussion and
posting of ghost stories, both personal experiences and those which have been
passed on from others.  "Ghost stories" can include local retellings of the
"Vanishing Hitchhiker" legend, popular local ghost legends, personal experi-
ences, stories told to you in dark rooms on Halloween, classic ghost story
plot and narrative elements, and so forth.  The purpose of all this is to
allow those interested in ghost stories to discuss and enjoy them with one
another.
From: zelek@remus.rutgers.edu (Grey Wolf)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Street lights
Date: 26 Aug 92 07:21:50 GMT
Organization: Rutgers University

There are a few lights around campus here [Rutgers University in NJ] that
switch on or off if someone goes under them.  Some of them do this with
100% frequency, others less so.  I don't know why this happens, but I
really doubt any stories of 'positive or negative energies' and the like,
and I have never been struck by lightning, or been subjected to any
significant amount of electrical current in my life.  I always figured it
to be some quirk of design in certain lights, but not all.  Like, if
certain reproducable yet occasional flaws are put into a given light,
this will happen, whereas the very next light on the assembly line might
not have any such [or the specific flaws needed] flaws, and work fine.

This coming from someone who does believe in the supernatural.

Chris [zelek@aramis.rutgers.edu]

Most of my relatives are from northeastern PA, and supernatural events
are so frequent in that area that a local college even has a course on
it.  I've been told a _number_ of stories which will eventually find their
way on here...
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Wednesday, 26 Aug 1992 09:32:28 CET
From: <RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Re: Street lights
 <mwalker-240892172940@mwalker1.npd.provo.novell.com.>
 <1992Aug25.051521.8258@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

OK, guys (and ladies) I never believed any of this street-light-going'-out
crap......but on the way home last night, I neared a sodium street light,
and yup, it cut out as I approached in the car !
Now, European street lights are NOT photocell controlled - switching on &
off is done centrally using a switching signal over the mains supply - so
OK, I guess it was a coincidence, but........

Robin
From: vibrad@os2dce06.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
Subject: Wizard of Oz / I want to see the hanging guy
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:38:46 GMT
Organization: IBM, Austin

Ok, I have the Wizard of Oz on LD (CLV but I can do frame by from because of
digital memory). Now I went home and being that there isn't a whole heck of
a lot on TV Monday night, I said, 'Hey, let's look for the swingin' guy in
the Wizard of Oz'. We went frame by frame through the flying monkey scene
checking out the background looking for anything dangling from a far off
tree.  No luck.  We are very disappointed.  Could somebody fill me in on a
more precise area to look at in the movie? 

Something to be added to the Three Men and a Baby story... My wife had told
me about the dead kid in the window and about how there was suppose to be a
shotgun just before the kid (supposedly the same shotgun that the kid used to
commit suicide) (in the same scene).. Anyway, it is sort of in the shadows
but there does appear to be a gun there.  it is leaning up against something
like a bookcase, shelf, or wall.  Anyway, could just be a prop but it didnt
seem to make much sense to have a gun prop in a movie about three 'city' men
and a little baby.  (I believe, although it has been 2 years since I looked
for the kid and the gun, that when they pan back across the room that you
cant see the kid any longer nor the gun (I believe they are no longer there)..
not to sure on this point though.  

Brad
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: devol@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (WILLIAM DEVOL)
Subject: Second Half of College Story
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  2 Sep 1992 16:00 EST  


First, you folks are great.  I've been welcomed quite nicely to this group. 
 I have had several people ask for the second half of my ghost story about 
the "haunted" house in Athens, Ohio, that two friends of mine were linked 
to.

Recap:

Jane's garndparents owned a house in Athens that was sold when Jan's 
grandfather died.  David was a renter in the house after it was sold.  Both 
folks were my friends, but from different times in my life; they never met 
eachother until the night Jane went with me to tape David's story about the 
house.  That's when she learned the house had been her grandparents'.

I got the idea that a psychic should go through the house.  I only needed 
two things; I neede the owner's permission, and I needed a psychic.  The 
owner said, "Go ahead."  I thought the psychic would be tough; no so.

I went to a guy that owned a used record store in Athens.  He was a relic 
of the late 1960s, and (on a pure hunch) I figured he'd know "weird" people
  When I walked into his store and asked him if he knew any psychics, he 
looked at me as if I had called him a name.  He reached under the counter 
and handed me a card for a psychic.  "This chick was in here yesterday and 
gave me that card.  She said she thought I might need it later.  Take it 
and get out of here."

I called the number on the card, and the lady set a time to go through the 
house with me.  I invited Jane, and she jumped at the chance.

I taped the tour, and while there were no screams or bumps, the psychic 
made some interesting observations.  She said that there were spirits in 
the house.  One spirit described by the psychic made Jane think of her 
grandfather.

The whole thing was too weird for me, and I quit ghost hunting after that.  
Now. I'll just read about it.

WCD
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: farland@outland.b24a.ingr.com (Theresa McFarland)
Subject: ghost dreams
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 23:21:39 GMT

Someone mentioned having psychic experiences - and since this involves
a murder I guess it counts as ghost material.

These are experiences had by my mom.

She experiences other peoples deaths in her dreams.  

She had a dream about driving along a coast line in a red convertible with
rock music turned up very loud.  She was "connected" with the driver.
She felt like she was driving the car, but the driver was obviously a man.
The driver lost control of the car and careened over a cliff. 

In the worst of these death experiences, she saw a group of men grappling
with a young man on top of a tall building.  She saw the men push
the young men over the roof of the building.  She saw the young man fall
to his death.  The next day, mom got a phone call from an old friend.  This
old friend was very upset.  Apparently the friend's grandson had been 
found dead.  He had fallen to his death from a tall building in the 
town where he went to college.  The police ruled it an apparent sucide. 

Mom is sure that this young man wanted his grandmother to know that he 
had not committed sucide.  

There have been other instances.

Mom's kinda spooked by these dreams and doesn't want any more.  She tries
to fight them off if she gets them.  There have been too many times when
she was experiencing the death of the sending person - and she's not
real crazy about them.

I have had one or too strange dreams but nothing like the ones mom has.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories,dc.general
From: trifid@agora.rain.com (Roadster Racewerks)
Subject: Re: Ghost of Abe Lincoln
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 08:38:28 GMT



Abe Lincoln's ghost has been reported in the White House guest bedroom for
years. (I think I read once that Winston Churchill saw him there...it's the
one called <yup> the "Lincoln Bedroom".) I also seem to remember that JFK saw
him once while using his old rocker. (Kennedy had a bad back, and it soothed it
to rock..) No fancy warnings about impending doom, or anything dramatic...he
just reported to his family that sure enough, he'd seen the ghost, as many
before him had reported.


Suze
trifid@agora.rain.com

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: sspeigle@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Susan L Speigle)
Subject: My experiences
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 15:27:33 GMT

Hi, there!

I wanted to tell you about my experiences with a ghost that we lived with most 
of the time I was growing up.

We moved into our Great-Great Aunt Ketourah's house.  It was a huge old place 
with back and front stairs, 6 rooms in the basement, and all of her old 
furniture was still in the place (we're talking horsehair velvet sofa type 
deals!) and many things were packed away in monstrous trunks up in the attic.

Ketourah was one of 14 brothers and sisters.  She and her husband never had any
children (I think by choice) and since she had been raised in such spartan 
times, she was a packrat and very, very selfish with everything she had.

I'm telling you this because it (I believe) has a direct bearing upon things 
that happened in that house.

My bedroom was located at the bottom of the steps for the attic.  (The door was
IN my room).  Every night we would close the door to the attic and latch it 
with the hook and every morning...it would be open.  It got so bad that my 
mother nailed it shut with large nails (eight of them!) and the nails (which 
were bent when she put them in) would be straight and laying on the floor and 
the door would be open again!  Also, my closet was across from this door and 
the closet rod would also fall every night onto the floor (even if there was 
nothing on it).  My sister and I also felt presences there in the room and she 
did not like us being there.  We both felt that feeling.  We never talked about
it then, we were too scared.

My brother was the only one who she liked.  He used to go up into the attic to 
"talk" to her!  There was a picture up there in one of the trunks and he would 
go up and talk to it for hours.  What is really weird is that it *told* him 
where to look to find things, and sure enough...there they were!  It even told 
him where to look to find a piece of jewelry of hers that we did not even know 
existed... and there it was!

Other things also happened, but I will save them for another time!

Thanks,

Suzi
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: finneyrc@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (R Craig Finney)
Subject: Re: Street lights
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:05:50 GMT

>> Stuff deleted.

>> Well Mel.  There is also a wire that goes from the light down into the ground.
>> More stuff deleted.

Sorry Mel.  I appoligisei (sp).  I mean no direct attacks at anyone.  When I 
read the article about the person sticking to the lamp post, I pictured myself
about 45 feet in the air, arms and legs just swinging.  I found the image
quite funny.

-- 
Agent 36
(Everyone is sane in their own reality)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: jhosee@zeus.calpoly.edu (Jeffrey Yang Ho-See)
Subject: Ouija Boards
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 09:40:12 GMT

I just read a ouija board story, which makes me want to hear more of them!
Anyone got some good ones? My friend said he asked the spirit
on his ouija board it's name and it went to a "6", "6", and he flipped
the board before it could go to the next character. My friend
said always ask who the spirit is before you play. Is that true?

- Jeffrey
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories
From: z8tah@zohar.gsfc.nasa.gov (Theresa A. Held)
Subject: Grandfather's predictions
Reply-To: z8tah@calvin.gsfc.nasa.gov 
Organization: NASA/GSFC NCCS
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:03:28 GMT

This is sort of a ghost story before the person died.
This really happened to me, no 'story' type tale.

I was 18 when my grandfather died.  We knew he had cancer so
it was expected.  I had a dream in which I was at work and
my grandfather was sitting on a stool behind me, out of sight.
He was telling me things that were going to happen.  I had 
to go downstairs to get some supplies.  I walk past the time-
clock on the way. (it's a dial clock)  The clock said 10:10.
As I was walking down the stairs I said something to grand-
father but he didn't answer. I turned around to look at him
and he wasn't there.  The telephone started ringing.  I
walked backup stairs and answered the phone.  (this is in a
resturant and the kitchen people don't answer the phone)
It was my sister telling me my grandfather had died.  I
didn't remember what my grandfather told me when I woke
up,  just that it was predictions.

That day at work I was going downstairs to get supplies and
the telephone started ringing.  I went up and answered the
phone because of the dream.  It was my sister telling me
about grandfather dying.  The time-clock was right there
and the time was 1:50.  The hands were reversed but in the
same position.

Since then 6 different things have happened that I knew about
because of my grandfather telling me about them.  An couple
of examples are ... My brother called me to tell me he had 
won a car but i already knew because as I was going to answer
the phone I had a flash back of the dream with my granfather
telling me about it.  The same thing happened when my SO
niece was killed in a car accident.  I have the feeling
there are still some things he tld me I don't remember.

So I'm calling it a ghost story but I don't know if that's
appropriate.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.ghost-stories