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From: annie@canetoad.UUCP (Annie)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Love
Distribution: world
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:29:09 EDT
Organization: The Satellite of Love


__Long Ride__


A train is roaring
In my head
Wheels squeal
Across my intestines
The conductor announces
The exact time and
How many cubic centimeters
Of sweat
Are leaking from the
Brake pads
The air conditioner kicks in
Rumbles through the fingers
Clutched around your back
Ice *chinks*
In my knee caps
I come

--
"They never go far," he said with a chuckle. "They never do what they
set out to do. Always pecking at new things are the *Bandar-log*."

...uunet!canetoad!annie                          canetoad!annie@uunet.uu.net
From: huesmann@wam.umd.edu (Joseph Edward Huesmann)
Subject: Re: Flirting (was: Re: LJBF again)
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 03:59:08 GMT

Well, then it isn't very nice of them to flirt with us hopeless masses
then, is it?

Joe

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Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
From: ccaajmf@ucl.ac.uk (John Franks)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Thoughtful help required
Keywords: help
Date: 4 Sep 92 09:35:22 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium, London

In article <1992Sep3.003209.28086@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> mblaser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Fox) writes:
>
>What do you do when the person you love is totally convinced you hate them
>utterly and, as a result, interprets your every action as a way of jibing them?
>

Flowers ?
Lots of them.
Well, they are probably the hardest thing to misinterpret. 
And a very short note ("dinner Saturday, 8pm" ???).
As long as you're sure of your reading of events, that is.
It's just an idea.



John Franks              "And a thousand slimy things
ccaajmf@ucl.ac.uk         Lived on; and so did I."
 & jmf14@phx.cam.ac.uk from Cambridge
From: vrgjoa01@uctvax.uct.ac.za
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: RE: 5150 group
Date: 27 Aug 92 13:58:28 GMT
Organization: University of Cape Town

I think that a 5150 group would be great ...go for it!!! and while you are
about it ... get a life.

By the way,who the hell are you and would your head fit in an average size
room ? 

And what the hell do you have to do with alt.romance ??

Rob the stud..
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: so@cobol.cs.psu.edu (Nicol C So)
Subject: It hurts like hell
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:05:34 GMT

It hurts like hell!

For the last couple of days I've not been able to do any useful working,
all because of a relationship which has been over for some time.  I talked
and talked with friends trying to relieve the pain that's hurting me deep
inside my heart.  My friends keep telling me that it's over, and I should
just move forward.  "Yes, I know," I said, "but the pain is very real."

Years back, when I read about Maslow's pyramid of human needs, I thought
"Lucky that although human beings have needs, there are something that could
satisfy them.  How terrible it would be if a man can crave for something
that doesn't even exist!"  I stopped thinking about it, because the mere
possibility of the situation terrifies me.

Now I know that it is not just a possibility, it actually occurs.  When
a relationship is broken, people have changed, you know a dream has vanished
and the good old days are gone.  But when every little thing in life
reminds you of a past that cease to exist, and when you keep hoping for
the impossible, life is just plain miserable.

God, if you are listening out there, will you deliever me from this desperate
situation, will you?
Xref: sparky alt.romance:11181 alt.romance.chat:18103
From: pekka@tmt.tele.fi (Pekka Ahonen)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: what she wants
Date: 4 Sep 92 11:29:39 GMT
Organization: PTT Finland, Telematics

In article <1992Sep2.215750.26614@news.nd.edu> (Angie) writes:
> For myself  - and a majority of the
>women I know - I prefer all the "cutsie-shit" that a man will hand out!  As
>long as he's willing to spend money and time on you, then take it!  Why? 
>Well, simply because later on in the relationship, it just will not happen.

When marriage starts, romance ends.
Don't you get IT(tm), when men are after someone, of course they (us)
want to win the interest of the woman they are courting by bying her
flowers and presents and other "cutsie-shit", but when marriage-life
starts they don't feel obligated anymore to do so as they think that
in marriage-life they are equal with their wife (meaning 'I will not
buy her anything if she will not buy something for me') and they also
don't have the reason to do that anymore, since they've already got
what they were after and they feel quite secure on keeping the
relationship goingon anyways.
But methinx it is a part of dating for man to buy "cutsies" to a woman
and women should accept them, because otherwise dating may end quite
soon, since men are used to "take care" of women while dating and if a
woman don't accept "cutsies" man will either get scared thinking of
her as a feminist or get hurt and think that she don't care about him.
But beware ladies, you can scare a man away also by "begging"
"cutsies", know what I mean? because in that case a man will take you
as a "bad girl".


> Take, for example, my parents....loving couple that fell in love after
>only dating for two months.  Sure, my dad brought dead flowers from my
>grandmothers garden and left them on my mom''s desk at work to greet her
>when she arrived.  Then, later on he gave her potatoe chips (Lays brand)
>with a note that said:  "How aabout a Lay?"  Oh, isn't that cute?!

Yes, it IS cute. Well, how about it :-?


>Twenty-some years later, my mom has not seen the sight of dead flowers or
>stale potatoe chips!  So, men, give us all you've got, and Ladies, TAKE IT
>because later on there will be nothing for you to receive besides headaches
>and heartbreaks!

She hasn't seen any dead flowers, well howzabout those on your garden
:-? No, I'll bet she's taken care of them.
You know, we men DO give you everything we got. Our hearts, our souls,
our money, our dignaty... evrything! But as far I have only receiveed
headaches and heartbreaks (oh, sorry forgot, I gave it to you, so it
can't break, can it?) and lots of debts...

HOHOHO!
- Brandon (Unofficial nominee to be official Santa Claus of RFA ...or
at least a Minnesota bear (beer?) (hi Brenda!))

BTW
Who does the nomination in RFA nowadays, haven't seen any old (good
old not old) RFA members or president or vice-president around
lately (of course not George and Dan! whatdidyouthink?) Any comments?
 ...Liz? ...Lisa? ...Marcia? ...Anyone? ...Hello?
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Woman dating separated man -- advice desired
From: kmargelot@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:30:54 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

> 
> A lady, who I know, recently came off of a two-year close friendship
> with a fellow.  It was one of those in which she was much more fond
> of him than he of her.  He just wanted to be friends, she wanted more.

> live several thousand miles apart.  In his case, he is just
> separated from his wife (she wanted out, he was still interested
> in the marriage), and is not yet divorced.  Also, the first call to
> my friend happened about 3 weeks after his wife moved out.
> 
> Here's my question:  as I see the relationship, my friend is just
> getting set up for pain, since both of them are rebounding
> off of other relationships.  The other thing that bothers me is
> that my friend is developing a pretty serious relationship with
> this guy and he isn't even divorced yet.
> 
> Am I wrong in counselling my friend to not see this guy until
> the divorce is final?  They are planning to get together in

Dear Tom,
	It probably isn't the best solution to counsel your friend not to see
this man. It might cause her instead to resent your advice rather than follow
it. A better route might be to suggest that she be very (_Very_)careful. 
Speaking from experience, if the man should decide to return home to his wife..
.it can be truly devastating. It sent my self-esteem plummeting and has taken 
me another few (horrible) months to get over. Not a lot of fun.  
	 It could work out beautifully for them, however, and you
wouldn't want to scare your friend away from something wonderful. Your best bet
then, is probably to tell her that you care about her, want the best for her 
and suggest she keep at least partial control of her heart until after
the papers are filed and things appear to be progressing toward a 
final conclusion. (Man, I wish ~I~ had, but then hearts are pretty hard things
to control at times, I guess!) 

Kathy (show me your papers) Margelot 

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: stefan@spc.nl (Stefan Posthuma)
Subject: Re: LDR
Organization: SPC Company BV, The Netherlands
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 16:09:58 GMT


john@engr.latech.edu (John Orr) writes:

>I can sympathize with those who have been posting letters about the woes of 
>long distance love.  Let me tell you about it:

>  Rebekah and I met in October of '90 when I was running lights for a 
>Christian rock singer named Greg Volz.  She was at that time the Director of 
>Student Activities at Louisiana College, a Baptist college in Pineville, 
>LA.  I live in Ruston, LA, about 100 miles away.  We saw each other at least 
                                  ^^^
[rest deleted]

Wow, that's only a two hour drive. My love lives about 12 hours flying away.
Some guys have all the luck :-)

So tell me, who's got the most long distance LDR? I live in Holland and she
lives in Guatemala. Do I deserve a prize for this?? ;-)

Seriously, it's hard. Very hard. But 'it' is definately present. Love, caring,
you know what I mean. Christmas is slowly nearing, my time to fly again....
There must be more people with LDR's where the D is immense. Email me, I like
to talk about it. What do you do when ten minute phonecalls cost a fortune
and letters take about two weeks to reach each other?

I think the best thing you can do is send a small gift box full of goodies,
little funny things, nice postcards, some photos, a letter, that kind of
stuff. Sometimes a fax, phonecalls are short and very expensive. And the
future? I dare not think about it....
And I am not even talking about my attempts at learning Spanish, the immense
difference in culture and so on. But then again, that doesn't matter really...

A sometimes suffering but very optimistic LDR 'victim'....

	Stefan
-- 
"We convoke the Nephilim and they come  {*}  Stefan Posthuma,  SPC Company
to us, strangers with the eyes of men."  |   stefan@spc.nl
-- 
"We convoke the Nephilim and they come  {*}  Stefan Posthuma,  SPC Company
to us, strangers with the eyes of men."  |   stefan@spc.nl
Xref: sparky alt.romance:11129 alt.romance.chat:18006
From: epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary Epperson)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Part Two of "Dryads' Dailiness"
Keywords: Nymphette
Date: 2 Sep 92 17:42:16 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Statistics Department

In article <1992Sep2.070317.6372@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>  Oh, yeah??  Well, there's still a *BIG* difference between "nymph"
>>  and "nympho" there, Brad.  Although it's true that rip has absolutely
>>  no success in distinguishing between the two (for obvious reasons),
>
>'obvious reasons'?  I *told* you not to listen to Mary!

Read previous post...I didn't tell her ANYTHING!!!  *hmph*

>
>>  "Died of natural causes and lost their souls."  Oh... you mean they
>>  were once Christmas trees from rip's office.  Well, that explains it.
>
>Again I say, "Excuse Me?!"  I wish you would explain what that
>explains... (Mary!  I'm gonna *get* you for this!!)  Besides, I
>prefer they be called Chanukah bushes, not Christmas trees...

Rip...listen to me...that's right...calmly now...

I have NO idea where the reference about Christmas trees came from,
and would *love* to hear your explanation...*hehehe*  And I didn't
tell Judi a thing...*honnnnnest**   *reallllly*

And if you *think* you'll "get" me, you'll have to wait until the
CaliChat (if I make it there, that is...)

Mary
CaliChat/TygerBoink Sex'y
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: cadesjar@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Curtis Desjardins)
Subject: Re: Flirting (was: Re: LJBF again)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:00:12 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.103005.7290@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.185040.23369@bnr.co.uk>, dswt@bnr.co.uk (Stewart Tansley) writes:
>> In the referenced article weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver) writes:
>>>My reward for this was the famous LJBF speech.
>> 
>> Ah, such a familiar tale to my ears... :-\ 
>> 
>Mine too. My favorite answer is "Thanks, but I already have enough friends."

Ahhhh.... "Self-important is he who has so many friends knocking down his
           door that he thinks he can afford to turn them away."

(Am I being just a teensy bit facetious? Damn straight I am!)

Turning away a friendship? I feel sorry for you.
I could never have enough.

>Mike

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Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: dcormell@sscvx1.ssc.gov
Subject: re:re: looking for help (LOVE)
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:41:53 GMT

I looked and looked for someone to love me {just as I am w/o changing},
and much to my surprise, when I just gave up looking and got involved
in MY life, (:) bowling Wednesay nights I enjoyed, Church Sunday Mornings,
and a happy hour once a month with friends from work.....(drum roll plez)
I found the most wonderful man in the world, and now we've been married for
3 (yes THREE) years.  Don't look, do things you like and they will find YOU!

hugs to all in alt.romance
debbie


Xref: sparky alt.romance:11113 alt.romance.chat:17983
From: jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane)
Subject: Re: Part Two of "Dryads' Dailiness"
Keywords: Nymphette
Reply-To: jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:50:02 GMT

In article <Btyp6H.689@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> epperson@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Mary Epperson) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.070317.6372@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>>>  Oh, yeah??  Well, there's still a *BIG* difference between "nymph"
>>>  and "nympho" there, Brad.  Although it's true that rip has absolutely
>>>  no success in distinguishing between the two (for obvious reasons),
>>
>>'obvious reasons'?  I *told* you not to listen to Mary!
>
>Read previous post...I didn't tell her ANYTHING!!!  *hmph*
>
>>
>>>  "Died of natural causes and lost their souls."  Oh... you mean they
>>>  were once Christmas trees from rip's office.  Well, that explains it.
>>
>>Again I say, "Excuse Me?!"  I wish you would explain what that
>>explains... (Mary!  I'm gonna *get* you for this!!)  Besides, I
>>prefer they be called Chanukah bushes, not Christmas trees...
>
>Rip...listen to me...that's right...calmly now...
>
>I have NO idea where the reference about Christmas trees came from,
>and would *love* to hear your explanation...*hehehe*  And I didn't
>tell Judi a thing...*honnnnnest**   *reallllly*

   (The Dryad whips herself 8^) into a panic over this situation,
   frantically trying to fax rip the email message Mary sent to her,
   warning the OD about the ripster.  But in her haste, she once
   again spills her cherry coke on the fax and



>And if you *think* you'll "get" me, you'll have to wait until the
>CaliChat (if I make it there, that is...)
>
>Mary
>CaliChat/TygerBoink Sex'y
From: jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Jake Rose)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: what she wants
Date: 2 Sep 92 23:25:08 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

(Angie) writes:

>All women are not the same.  Some ladies prefer all the cute things that
>men do when dating.  While others prefer to bypass all that "cutsie-shit"
>and just get on with the relationship.  For myself  - and a majority of the
>women I know - I prefer all the "cutsie-shit" that a man will hand out!  As
>long as he's willing to spend money and time on you, then take it!  Why? 
>Well, simply because later on in the relationship, it just will not happen.
> Take, for example, my parents....loving couple that fell in love after
>only dating for two months.  Sure, my dad brought dead flowers from my
>grandmothers garden and left them on my mom''s desk at work to greet her
>when she arrived.  Then, later on he gave her potatoe chips (Lays brand)
>with a note that said:  "How aabout a Lay?"  Oh, isn't that cute?!
>Twenty-some years later, my mom has not seen the sight of dead flowers or
>stale potatoe chips!  So, men, give us all you've got, and Ladies, TAKE IT
>because later on there will be nothing for you to receive besides headaches
>and heartbreaks!

Well, that's a depressing view of long-long-long-term relationships.  It's
not the cute *things* that matter - it's the personality of the person you
have decided to spend your life with.  If you make the wrong choice,
obviously you'll be unhappy.  It also works both ways.  I think that any
two people *can* get along, if they're sincere, but that doesn't mean they
should try...

Wulf                    | "Martha, it's another one of those CS majors asking
jaker@csugrad.cs.vt.edu |  if cow chips are pin-compatible with 68040s..."
From: weaver@jetsun.weitek.COM (Michael Gordon Weaver)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: what she wants
Date: 4 Sep 92 01:09:39 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Sep2.215750.26614@news.nd.edu> (Angie) writes:
>All women are not the same.  Some ladies prefer all the cute things that
>men do when dating.  While others prefer to bypass all that "cutsie-shit"
>and just get on with the relationship.  For myself  - and a majority of the
>women I know - I prefer all the "cutsie-shit" that a man will hand out!  As
>long as he's willing to spend money and time on you, then take it!  Why? 
>Well, simply because later on in the relationship, it just will not happen.
> Take, for example, my parents....loving couple that fell in love after
>only dating for two months.  Sure, my dad brought dead flowers from my
>grandmothers garden and left them on my mom''s desk at work to greet her
>when she arrived.  Then, later on he gave her potatoe chips (Lays brand)
>with a note that said:  "How aabout a Lay?"  Oh, isn't that cute?!
>Twenty-some years later, my mom has not seen the sight of dead flowers or
>stale potatoe chips!  So, men, give us all you've got, and Ladies, TAKE IT
>because later on there will be nothing for you to receive besides headaches
>and heartbreaks!
>
Cheer up Angie! It's not all as bad as that. Of course you should enjoy
these things when they happen, because they don't happen every day.
And you can't expect a relationship to keep all the excitement of its
early days -- would you want to hyperventilate for twenty or fifty years?
But just because you've been together for a long time doesn't mean you 
can't be romantic. I see proof of this all around me (you should have
seen my grandparents 50th wedding aniversary), and I think if you look
around you will too. It takes a lot of work from both partners, but it
can be done.

Michael.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: fippen@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu (John W. Fippen - Invoice)
Subject: Love is EVERYTHING!!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 12:53:32 GMT

s a lot of talk about the low end of life: sex in the back seat 
of cars, booze parties, dope and how to use it, multiple sex, etc. All of these 
things and more of their ilk show minor excitement for the short term and 
greatly lessened expectations for the long term. Men generally exploit women in 
the short term simply because women let them! A woman should never give up her 
long term goals for short term pleasure; this only shows their ignorance of 
life. Think about it: the best men marry the best women early on; this is not 
always the case, but it generally holds true.
        Members of either sex should look at their possible future partners 
from the standpoint of what that person has DONE, and not what they say. Early 
achievers will generally be good late achievers. And if your partner is in 
earnest about you, then you are elevated in his eyes and chivalry comes 
naturally. Do not be taken in by protestations of love early on when the heart 
beats quickly and sex is urgently desired; tomorrow he may not remember your 
name! And so you have given your body for the moment, which is to your 
disadvantage, rather than for life which is to your advantage!
        Now many will my wisdom on these things, so let me state my 
credentials: I married a girl that I love in 1949, and we are still married and 
have 2 grown daughters. I love my wife a thousand times more now, and I am 
blessed to have her. And remember: a good married couple are not just 2 people, 
because there is a multiplication effect in working together which means that 
the output is more like 3 or 4 people. And a live of love is the only way to go 
- take it from an old man of 69 3/4. BS 49, MBA 64. I promise to answer all 
considerate replies. John Fippen, email:
                 fippen@ux2.cso.uiuc.edu .                                     
 

CC
C

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From: jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,alt.romance.chat
Subject: Re: Part Two of "Dryads' Dailiness"
Keywords: Nymphette, Nympho
Date: 1 Sep 92 13:07:42 GMT
Reply-To: jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <1992Sep1.013709.20823@sequent.com> rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>In article <Btrs9B.9BD@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> coates@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Tony Coates) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug28.130217.4814@pony.Ingres.COM>, jlane@Ingres.COM (Judi Lane) writes:
>>|> In article <Bto7Ct.CHx@bunyip.cc.uq.oz.au> coates@newton.physics.uq.oz.au (Tony Coates) writes:
>>|> >In article <1992Aug27.022244.4403@sequent.com>, rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor) writes:
>
>**bunch of stuff deleted**
>
>>Um ... er ... well, yes, we sort of did hijack you title a bit, didn't
>>we (he says, trying to get 'rip' to take at least half of the blame).
>
>Hey!  Don't drag my pristine reputation into this!  You can take all
>this yourself!      ^^^^^^^^
                               
	"Pristine"?  Maybe for a toxic waste dump.  8^)

 
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