From: bazyar@teal.csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: Has the 2GS been dropped?
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:22:42 GMT

trimper@edsi.plexus.COM (Greg Trimper) writes:

>scottba@edsi.plexus.COM (Scott Anderson) writes:

>>The Developer (that I didn't want to believe in the first place) is 
>>trimper@edsi.plexus.com.  Nail him!

>Scott, you should know that such a post is LIBELOUS and likely to get
>me very mad at YOU, and even legally in trouble, if I am bothered any
>more by it.  I'm being serious here.  

>I'll repost what I sent a person in mail, and have formally requested that
>scott cancel this post.  If he does not cancel his post, I will speak
>to site administrators, then higher up, but I hope that won't be neccessary.

>To sum up, my OBSERVATIONS on the II line are such:


>>information that the IIgs was dead?  I recently read a post by a IIgs user who
>>said he got this information from you.  Please clarify your sources so we can

>No sources, really, just some observations:
>1) Apple has laid off or moved to other projects all the Apple II people
>where they are no longer officially Apple II project people.

  So, Dave Lyons, Matt Deatherage, Tim Swihart, Mark Day, and others 
_don't_ work for "Apple II Continuing Engineering"?  That's funny, that's
what Tim said at KansasFest in front of most of the Apple II development
community.

>2) The IIe and IIgs are not on the upcoming educational price list -
>neither are any 68000-based Macs (Classic, PB100,).  Futhermore, upcoming
>Mac system software will not support the 68000's.

  How do you know what's going to be on a price list that hasn't been
released, yet?

>3) Apple is now MORE than encouraging Schools, etc, to move to the Mac,
>   and discouraging Apple II purchases.
  
  They've been doing this for years.  Schools still buy IIs cause they
can get them by the truckload, cheaply.

>4) A call to Apple for info on our single IIgs left at the university to
>   ask a floppy drive configuration problem (Duo Disk, SCSI disk, and
>   2 daisychained 800k disks don't all like each other) recommended that
>   we seek local, independent help, and didn't offer any, as they had in
>   years past.

  Apple hasn't been doing this, either, for a long time as far as I know.
Can you imagine people calling Apple main phones saying "I can't get
my Squiggly init to work with my MenuReverser thingy."  Which they would,
cause Mac users are not in general accessible via the networks.

>All of these observations, and rumour in MacWeek, schools, etc, lead me
>to believe that the IIgs and the IIe are slated for the cutting block
>this fall.  The market has been induced away.

  MacWeak, the mag that's been saying "The Apple II is Dead" for 
what, four years now?  I think it's taken for granted that MacWeak
is one of the most pathetic magaizines in existence, even in the Mac
mag market.

>Take my observations for what they are worth - $0.00. 

  You said it, not I. :-)

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