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From: cad3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHERYL ANN DOUGHERTY)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Dixie's Hair
Date: 4 Jan 93 19:16:11 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1k9PwB6w165w@pete.uucp>, patricia@pete.uucp (Patricia Peterson) writ
es:
>Joni Snyder <JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>
>> In article <16DEC199214564743@xenon.arc.nasa.gov>, holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov
>> (LAURA HOLST) says:
>> >
>> >Looks like the hair stylists from hell are at it again.
>> >Is it my imagination, or is Dixie's hair now most
>> >stiffly *red*?
>>
>My hair is red, not Opal red, or carrot red, but that red brown color.  In
>the summer my hair gets very light, almost strwberry blond if I spend a
>lot of time in the sun, which I try not to do.  In the winter it gets dark
>again.  My daughter Kendra has blond hair with reddish tints in it.  In the
>summer when she spends a lot of time in the pool her hair gets redder.  My
>other daughter, Alysa also gets copper highlights in her hair in the summer
>and in the winter it is mousy brown.
>
>So maybe Dixie, Brooke and Opal are going throught the changing of the
>season.

    I have also noticed that my red hair looks different in different types of
lighting.  My hairdresser just told me to avoid flourescent lights in my
bathroom because the green tones in the light neutralize the appearance of red
tints in the hair.  But, anyway, now that I have time because of the senester
break to watch AMC every day, I have noticed how Dixie's hair changes color.
On one day I noted three different shades.  Perhaps the complaints with
the shades of red in women's hair on AMC are due more to the lighting design
than to the actual hair color.

--Cheryl
>
>Patricia
From: sylanov@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Christine V Sylanov)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: AMC:Tan-MEK:Any San Antonio Folk Going?
Date: 6 Jan 1993 13:44:20 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: function.mps.ohio-state.edu



	Wow, MEK will be in Austin on the 16th!  Is there
anyone in San Antonio who is considering making the drive
to Austin for this?  If so, I would be interested in coming
along (I will of course help pay for gas, I'd be glad to
drive also, although I won't have a car of my own there).

	I will be in San Antonio from 1/13-1/17, to attend
the AMS meeting (that's American Math. Soc.).  I'll be staying
at the Menger (or is that Mengen?) hotel.  Email me if you
are going, and would like a fellow ratster to tag along!
Wow, this could make this math meeting exciting for a
change!



	Christine Sylanov


--
	Christine Sylanov	sylanov@function.mps.ohio-state.edu 

	I keep quite busy just trying to conceal the fact that
	   I don't know what I'm doing.     A. Brilliant
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From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: LOV: Missing Post
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 13:49:13 GMT

This came to me email.  I'm sure Sharyl wanted to post it.
Deb M.

From swidener@hydra.unm.edu Mon Jan  4 18:42:18 1993
Subject: Re: AMC: Ceara Connor Hunter

I want to watch LOVING too!  But it doesn't seem to be broadcast
in the Albuquerque, NM area.  Does anyone ouhthere know if Lov. is broad
cast in Albq.?  Please clue me in.  I too have fallen victim to
chocolate, lemmon bars, pie, mashed postatoes and anything not tied town and 
presented on a Xmas plate.  I was pretty sure that Erica Kane had had a little taste of Tad, way back? No?

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From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: A Holiday Get Together
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:45:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.155754.14295@umiami.ir.miami.edu> ahelmers@umiami.ir.miami.edu writes:
>In article <199301061545.AA00779@donne.unx.sas.com>, alex@unx.sas.com (Alexandra Bost) writes:
>> Hi!  Big "TAN" here -- I wanted to tell everyone how nice it was to
>> finish my New Year's cruise holiday by meeting Ann Helmers in Florida!
>[Alex says many nice things here...blush, blush]
>Yep, we had a wonderful time, I just wish we could have had MORE time together. 
>We both commented on what a blast it would be to have a party with all the
>ratsketeers.  Hey, whenever anyone is in Florida let's do it again! (Debbie
>Millard:  next time any AMC character hits a mall anywhere in S. Fla, we have
>gotta get ourselves together to meet and attend as a team)
>
>Yo Helmers

Yo!  What she said!  This is a definite must do!  And all the
other S. Fla. ratsers, too.

dmillard@what.am.i.doing.here.org
From: psr@calmasd.Prime.COM (Peggy Randalls)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Friday Update - 1/8/93
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:06:14 GMT
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA

In article <1993Jan11.142358.13942@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas) writes:
> In article <1imvl6INN8mv@shelley.u.washington.edu> dias@cac.washington.edu (Vivian Dias ) writes:
> >  Friday Update - January 8, 1993
> >
> >
> 
- I loved seeing Ken being poisoned to death. I thought it was great. I hope
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ditto from me!
 
- Andie gets away with the murder. I like her very much. Since Jodie slept
- with Micah, I hope Andie and Reese get together. Ladies, did you notice
- that it was Jodie that gave in first, not Reese!! Again, she made a mistake.
- If this story was to be continued, it would have been the start of BJ II.
> 
- John
> 
I guess we'll never know for sure what will happen.  I just hate it when
something ends and I have a million questions afterward!  Now I'll have
to figure out what to do with my extra 40 minutes to myself at night!
:-)

Peggy Randalls
psr@calmasd.prime.com or psr@calma1.prime.com 
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From: "Jeep" <jmeranda@us.oracle.com>
Subject: ATWT: Speaking of ice..
Original-To: PlanB
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Original-Cc: Babydoll
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 06:50:11 PST



From:     Karen Williams <ski@ivy.Princeton.EDU>
Subject:  Speaking of ice ....
Reply-To: ski@ivy.Princeton.EDU
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I read Special K's fantasy about the Mustang Pond and Edweenie
and L'il Debbie falling through the ice and it reminded me of
a joke my son told me ...  Remember folks, Brian is 14 ...


Two Polacks decided to go ice fishing.  They start drilling through
the ice and out of the darkness comes a voice, "THERE ARE NO FISH
UNDER THE ICE .."

Stash looks at Frank and says, "Did you say that?"
Frank says, "No, just keep drilling."

A few minutes later, the voice returns, "...THERE ARE NO FISH UNDER
THE ICE...."

Stash looks at Frank and says, "Is that God?"

Frank says, "No, keep drilling."

Finally, the booming voice surrounds them again .. "THERE ARE NO FISH
UNDER THIS ICE ..." And a tall man appears behind them.

Frank says, "ARE YOU GOD?"

"NO," yells the stranger.  "I'm the manager of this skating rink."

*****

BaByDolL  Stypulkowski  Williams


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From: kjs@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (kelly.smith)
Subject: DOOL:  Fab. Friday
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:18:14 GMT


Well, I thouroughly enjoyed every last one of Jacks scenes
on Friday.  Now THAT'S and actor.  I felt so bad for him.
I wish he would get his paper back.  And not by stealing
someones drug money either.  What ever happened to co-signers?
Would it be to much to ask one of Jack's I would say friends,
but he still doesn't have any, family members...hmm, okay
Jenn's family members to co-sign a loan.  This way he has a
chance to prove himself and regain his dignity.  The only way
this feeling sorry for himself stuff would work is if Jack
went into some sort of depression, never left the house,
threatened suicide, etc. etc.  Of course I'm not so sure I
want to see that, no to mention the fact that the 'errs probably
couldn't pull off the writing anyway.

For some strange reason I sat on the edge of my seat just
waiting for Gus and his goons to beat the crap out of Asstin.
And what do I get?  A little five second shot of the beating
and a whole show of the turmoil (NOT!) he's going through
over Carrie.  What was that about anyway?  Did anyone sit
through it?  I'm curious, but not curious enough to watch it.
I want to see Gus whip the hell out of him for some strange
reason.  Perhaps it's cuz I can't stand the character.  Isn't
he supposed to be comatose for a while?

I still don't see the chemistry between John and Rebecca.  It's
just ain't there folks.  It over done IMNSHO.  I don't think
John has quite gotten over Isabella's demise and to rush this
relationship is wrong.  We need time to warm up to the character
and again we haven't gotten it.  What happened to Glynnis?  Did
they ever explain her departure?  I guess she's gone, she's doing
Payless Shoes Commercials.  Is it me or have I seen Rebecca
(Dani Something) on a commercial or two?  International Coffees?
Folgers?  It had to do with coffee I think.

I just figured out who the new Kim reminds me of.  Now you have to
think here for a moment.  So, now that you're warned..............
Remember back to when Johnny Corelli was trying to get on April,
Victor, and Justin's good sides he tracked down Angelica and
Justin's little son.  The actress who played Angelica looks very
much like the new Kim.  The bone structure and the eyes mostly.
They could be sisters.  I remember the one who played Angelica was
on Ryan's Hope way back when.  Does anyone know if there's any
relation?

			Bye for now................Boysies
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From: thall@ducvax.auburn.edu (Teresa Hall)
Subject: Re: ATWT: Trivia #11
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Auburn University--Auburn, AL
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:05:00 GMT

In article <mcmahon.234@nd.edu>, mcmahon@nd.edu (Sheila M. McMahon) writes...
> 

HERE WE GO --- the DocSam and MomTeresa trivia computer is spinning
its rusty cogs to attempt to remember something. ..anything. ..
> 
>1) What is Dr. Casey Peretti's mother's name?
>    
  Whoops.  We're already hitting a dead end.
> 
>2) What was the name of Casey Peretti's ex-girlfriend from Boston, who came
>   to Oakdale briefly and tried to break up Casey and Lyla?
> 
  Whoops again.  We're 2 for 2.
> 
>3) Why did Paul Ryan kill his father, James Stenbeck?
> 
  James was trying to kill Easy and he killed to save Easy's life.
> 
>4) Who is the Chief of Staff at Memorial Hospital?
> 
  JohnnyD, who took over for Bobo.
> 
>5) Who was the Maid of Honor at Meg and Josh's wedding?
> 
  Nella Franklin
> 
>6) Who was the Maid of Honor at Ellie and Kirk's wedding?
> 
  Iva?
> 
>7) Who are Aaron's godparents?
> 
  JohnnyD and Sleaza
> 
>8) Why did Linc Lafferty and Marcy Breen get divorced?
> 
  Actually, Irish, did they ever get divorced?  Marcy pretended
  to be pregnant and was actually on the pill, but when Linc found
  out and they had their shouting match, didn't she leave town
  and they couldn't find her?  In fact, she was swearing he wouldn't
  get a divorce -- just to be her sweet, b*tchy self.

>9) How many children did Henry Lang have? Name them.
> 
  Four. Ax and Smash, er, Jay and Stephen, Barclay and Angel.
> 
>10) How did David Stewart die?
> 
  Heart attack.
> 
> 
>Enjoy,
>Irish

  Thanks ever so much!!

  MomTeresa
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From: holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov (LAURA HOLST)
Subject: OLTL: A&Dw/SOM
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 23:06:00 GMT

Check this out:


MIA KORF QUITS OLTL

Mia Korf will be leaving her role as BLAIR on OLTL on or
about the first of February - an unexpected move that will
affect a major storyline just as the February sweeps are
coming up.

The actress is leaving to take the starring role in a 
Broadway show, "Face Value", which also stars Mark Linn
Baker from TV's "Perfect Strangers".  Execs are looking
for another actress to quickly replace Mia because Blair
is slated for an important February storyline with her
aunt DORIAN.  Robin Strasser is taking over the part of
Dorian, replacing the exiting Elaine Princi.

Ah, well, never liked that B**** Blair, anyway, ever
since she tried to hit on Cord.

--Laura Holst
Internet:  holst@xenon.arc.nasa.gov  Decnet:  XEN::HOLST
Snail Mail:  NASA/Ames Research Center  MS 219-1
             Moffett Field, CA  94035-1000
Live:        (415) 604-6588
From: shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Susan R. Hagan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: The very first Carry
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:43:06 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

n8243057@henson.cc.wwu.edu (NSFosberg) writes:

>i was wondering, is the actress who plays kimmie gibbler on full house
>the actress who played the very first, very young carry?  back when

Yup!  Thats her!

She was adorable.


-- 
Susan R. Hagan (shagan@gandalf.rutgers.edu) 
Publications Coordinator - User Services
Rutgers University Computing Services
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From: jarnolde@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu (John Arnolde)
Subject: Re: SB: Another unlurker
Organization: Physical Sciences Lab, University of Wisconsin
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 22:01:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.184214.14560@bnr.ca> trudy@bcarh17d.BNR.CA (Trudy McConnell) writes:
>Hi everyone,
> 
>Since I've seen a couple of other lurkers unlurk, I thought I should
>too, before it is too late. I've only been watching SB for about 8
>months, and now I'm sorry I didn't start years ago !!!! 
> 
>The posts to this group have been great and very entertaining. I'm
>really going to miss this show !!!!! (Friday is my birthday - what 
>a lousy birthday present, eh ??? - the end of my soap !!)
> 
>Well, I hope everybody has a wonderful time at the mini-con this
>weekend and it would be nice to hear about it sometime next week.
> 
>Thanks everyone for the wonderful posts !!!!
> 
>Trudy.
> 
Good to see you unlurk! Happy Birthday, a few days early. Yes, I see ya here in
Wisconsin.

>P.S. Could somebody reply if they see this, I have tried to post
>once before but I don't know if it made it out or not. 
>


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From: starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders)
Subject: Re: AMC: Godzilla Lite Update (c) 930108
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:50:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: EnviraForm


On 12 Jan 93 01:58:53 GMT, patricia@pete.uucp (Patricia Peterson),
in Message-ID: <tufUrACJBh107h@pete.uucp> writes:

>>   Brian drops by to alert Jack to Dixie's weird behavior ("she's really 
>>switching channels, man; she's going down - she's going under"). Jack 
>>encourages him to "stand by her; have faith - the Good Guys always win". 
>
>I thought Jack was going to tell Brian to get a grip.  This was the
>first overacting scene.  OK so he finds Dixie sleeping in Adam Jrs.
>bed, so what?  Why must he read anything into this, especially
>to the extent that he is doing so.

   She was dozing off on her late brother's sofa (and talking to the dead) 
a lot at Will's old apartment during her, um, "problem period". IMO, we're 
supposed to believe he thought she was heading toward Relapse City. 

   Speaking of getting a grip, there's no way Jack should have allowed 
MysteryHo to "climb him" like that on Mon., given the weird circumstances. 
Sure, she's fine and a "nice, tall drink of water"...but so, reportedly, 
was Mata Hari.   :)

---------
Lance Sanders             "I was walking down the street, heard gunshots
starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM      and thought it could only mean one thing:
GE Mail: L.Sanders6        Amy Fisher's in love again."
Vox: (312) 667-5958                                 ---David Letterman


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From: saj@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (john.suravlas)
Subject: Re: SB:  Memory book cost
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 20:25:45 GMT

In article <29327@oasys.dt.navy.mil> greenlaw@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Leila Thomas) writes:
>There will a $15.00 cost for each memory book.  Included in the $15.00 is
>$3.00 to help Suzanne pay for the cost of copying and keeping each tape
>that she receives for archiving purposes.
>
>
>ps.  John you will be refunded $5.00 at the mini con, sorry about the
>     confusion.
>

I guess this means that I'm paid up and I don't need to send anymore money.

Thank you,
John

>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>*******************************************************************
>"Beauty and the Beast, well thought of by people who think." ---
>Roy Dotrice
>********************************************************************


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From: starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders)
Subject: AMC: Godzilla Quickies 930112
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:49:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: EnviraForm


>Subject: Re: AMC: Ceara Connor Hunter
>Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:27:17 GMT
>From: marks@keinstr.uucp (Mike Marks)
>Organization: Keithley Instruments, Cleveland, Ohio

   Mike: very goofy, funny Terminator/Ceara joke. :)
   


>Subject: AMC: Comments on MEK
>Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 14:21:10 GMT
>From: Dan.Galvin@launchpad.unc.edu (Dan Galvin)
>Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

>I for one do not have any interest in Michael Knight from an attractive 
>point of view, but since I was in Grammer school (mid-70's) I have loved 
>TAD as a character. I guess in a way I really like seeing TAD succeed in 
>baggin' babes and breakin' hearts. 

   I relate to MEK's sense of humor (pretty close to my own), and his 
(reformed) approach to women.

   Remember when Tad dressed in a chicken costume to cheer up Dix? Well, 
way before I started watching AMC ('79 or thereabouts), I dressed-up in a 
shark outfit (SNL: "knock-knock...'CandyGram'...") in an attempt to get a 
pert brunette-neighbor to go out with me. Unfortunately, her boyfriend 
answered the door ("What the _f**k_ do YOU want?!"), leaving me standing 
there like an idiot, with all my extremely funny and seductive one-liners 
detonating one-by-one deep inside my consciousness. 
   All I could come up with was: "You don't happen to have any tuna in 
there, do 'ya buddy??" 

   The shockwaves from the door slamming in my face left me deaf for 20 
minutes. :) 

  
Dan finishes:
>
>----------------------------------------------------------------
>No need to ask... He's a Pool Operator....
>----What Sade really sang
>----------------------------------------------------------------

   Bwa-ha-ha-ha!

   "And Iiiiii-eeee-iiiiiiiii, will always luh-uvvvvvvvv, Hugh-ooooooo-
    oooooo-oh, Iiiiiii..."
    ----Whitney Houston's "I Will Always Love Hugh - A Tribute To The Borg"
   
   


>From: susanm@hp-and.an.hp.com (Susan Margulies)
>Subject: AMC: Thursday Update 1/07/93
>
>From: dwv@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Dave Vollman)
>Subject: AMC: update for 01/11

   Really enjoyed your Updates this time 'round, folks.

---------
Lance "@casa.Daisy Fuentes.ay.caramba!" Sanders
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From: zaccaria@mtl.mit.edu (Carolyn Zaccaria)
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: name changing
Organization: MIT Microsystems Technology Laboratories
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:43:42 GMT

In article <6JAN199313340156@jetson.uh.edu> chee1m1@jetson.uh.edu (Gronlund, Nancy L.) writes:

>Oh, and by the way, I don't really watch AMC (yeah, I know, blasphemy!), but
>I got caught up in this discussion.
>Nancy

Well, Nancy, "get with the program!" (it's just a figure of speech :-))))))

CAZ
From: patricia@pete.uucp (Patricia Peterson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: TAN: those Schoo folks (was AMC: Scott)
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:47:33 GMT
Reply-To: patricia%pete%nicmad%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: My system in Madison WI

In <1993Jan8.185153.20787@cbfsb.cb.att.com> van@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (valerie.thompson) writes:
>Well, I don't see a summary yet of what the Schoos did, so here it goes.
>They decided to on a vacation to Mexico for Christmas, but didn't want to
>bring their kids.  They apparently didn't want to burden any friends or
>relatives with a 9 yo and a 4 yo, so, they left written instructions, and
>then, left their kids alone in the house for 9 days!  Some water splashed
>into a heating vent (I think) and set off the fire alarm, and they went
>running outside - that's how the story got out.  There's a book called
>"The Road Less Travelled" that pretty much states that most of a person's
>problems as an adult are caused by the parenting/lack of it they received
>as a child...Dr. Peck (the author) would have a lot to say about the
>Schoos!  (One of his theories is that fear of abandonment causes big
>problems...wonder what he'd say about this kind of abandonment?!!)

>I'm done with my psychology lecture now...suffice it to say that I 
>don't think the 3 years in jail that the parents are being threatened
>with is enough!!
>Val

Apparently this was not the first time they have done this.  According
to a neighbor they had also left the children home alone this summer.

My big question is Why the hell didn't the neighbors call someone
this summer if they knew the girls were alone???  SUpposedly these
affluent people are intelligent, what were they thinking.  Apparently
they didn't want to get involved. 

I'm just as mad at the neighbors who knew this was going on and did
nothing about it, as I am at the Schoos.  To me they are just as
guilty and should be fined by the state for perpetuating a crime.

In a perfect world these people would never get their kids back.  But
in reality they will probably be given back after they get out of jail
and are deemed to be rehabilitated.

Patricia


-- 
Patricia Peterson   (608)273-4573
Inet: patricia%pete%nicmad%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
From: bodom@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Brian Odom)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: Y&R - Molly and Sheila
Date: 10 Jan 93 13:17:38 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

In <1ikcujINNlvt@bigboote.WPI.EDU> brenda@wpi.WPI.EDU (brenda) writes:


>when did molly first find out about sheila not being dead??? 
>i thought everyone thought she was dead!?

>clueless as ever
>brenda

I'm kinda fuzzy about it, but I do remember this much (correct me if I'm wrong)

Molly was receiving harassing phone calls from an unknown person (Sheila) 
mentioning so many things about Sheila (don't remember what they were).  After
awhile, this person can to Molly's place to pay a visit.  Wrapped in scarves,
Sheila was beating on the door to tell Molly to open up, it's important.
Molly was very persistent on asking who is was, but Sheila would only say that
it's very important that you open the door.  So, Molly opens the door, and
this "mystery woman" turns around and takes her scarves off and rears her ugly
head!!  Sheila then says, "It's me, momma"  There's this eerie music and Molly
looks like she just saw a ghost (at least that's what she thought  :)).
Then the shows ends.  It was great.  Don't remember how long ago this was 
though.  sorry.
-- 
Brian T Odom

"We are all manufacturers -- some make good, others make trouble, and still
others make excuses."