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From: Mike.Connealy@p0.f104.n305.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Connealy)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Concern about K12
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 14:20:31 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:305/104.0 - The Eclectic Compan, Las Cruces NM

> For a while, children were arriving at school and zipping through 

> the Elementary Chat area but now they couldn't care less.

-----

  It may be little consolation, but I've seen similar results from a 

telecommunications project involving social work students at the 

undergrad and graduate levels -- so, I think it's not just an age- 

related phenomenon.

------

> I wonder how many of those children are being turned off e.mail 

> for good. I really think we teachers have a responsibility to 

> ensure that children who are given access to this medium are 

> aware that they have a responsibility to maintain integrity and 

> once making contact, to do their best to keep it going.

------

  I'm doubtful that appeals to conscience are going to achieve what 

you seek from K-12 (or older) students.  If the kids have lost their 

enthusiasm for telecommunications it is partly because they haven't 

discovered things of immediate relevance to their lives there.  They 

may also be reacting to some negatives which may not be readily 

apparent such as questions of privacy, confidentiality, system 

ownership and access.

  I suspect that the pen-pal idea may be one of the weaker 

approaches to stimulating an interest in computer communications.  

My bbs has accumulated a couple thousand messages in the last week, 

many of which go approximately like this:

 

     'Hi.  My name is Chris.  I like Science and Mel Gibson movies.  

      By the way, we are studying thermonuclear reactions right now

      and I'd appreciate it if you sent me everyhting you have on 

      the subject.  Gotta go now.  Bye!!!!!!'

 

  Believe it or not, that's pretty much the tenor of most of the 

messages posted by college students in the aforementioned project as 

well.  I don't think it demonstrates that kids are dumb or lacking 

in ethical awareness, but rather that they are acutely aware of the 

fact that their teacher is looking over their shoulder at every word 

they write.  Additionally, I think adults tend to over-rate the 

novelty of the "global village" idea; kids have already got that 

figured out from watching TV.  If your students need responses to 

their messages, why not let them write to each other?

 

  So, on the one hand, I think we have to look for more imaginative 

ways to present the concept of telecommunications and , on the 

other, we need to accept that there are real limitations on what can 

be done within the school environment.  I doubt that your kids have 

been turned off for life about e-mail; they know what it is about 

thanks to your efforts and they'll make use of it when they find a 

real need for it.



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From: Nancy.Opperman@f64.n381.z1.fidonet.org (Nancy Opperman)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: re: ASSERTIVE DISCIPLINE
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 17:46:46 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:381/64 - Academy K12 Net, El Paso TX

Jane, Our school district really supported Lee Canter's Assertive 
Discipline and put all of us through training several years ago.  I 
have found it to be a very successful tool in maintaining discipline 
in my classroom as long as I am consistent!  I teach fifth graders and 
they are very eager to earn their "points" - they

the type of atmosphere we need in our learning environment.  Another 
source which has been most valuable to me is Harry Wong.  He has 
published a book titled "The First Days of School."  He presents some 
wonderful insights in discipline which are very similar to Lee 
Canter's.  If you have a professional library, I would recommend that 
you read Harry Wong along with Lee Canter.  
     The most difficult aspect, for me, has been to come up with 
consequences which I can live with.  I've revised many times over the 
past several years - it takes time to find a comfort zone (at least 
for me).  
     Hope some of this has been helpful - - I do like assertive 
discipline.  Good luck.


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From: Julie.Rosenoff@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Julie Rosenoff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: Libraries
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 17:03:10 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

Lynne,

I don't know if it's available to you, but my local system now carries
an "echo" called LIBARRIES.  It isn't part of K12Net, but I assume
it's on FidoNet.  You might ask your sysop...



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From: Marlene.Buckley@f2.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Marlene Buckley)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Pen Pals
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 12:19:58 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/2 - Father Mercredi Hig, Ft McMurray AB

Hi Sam!
 
My name is Marlene Buckley.  I'm a grade 5 teacher in Fort McMurray, Alberta, Canada.  Fort McMurray is a small city (about 37,000) people in north-eastern Alberta.  I also teach in a school where many students come from low socio-economic backgrounds.  I would love to establish contact with others from around the world, as well.  My students have been very eager to "talk" with others from around the world.  If you're still interested in setting up pen pals from around the world for your class, let me know
  Hopefully, we'll be able to set something up.  
 
Marlene


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From: James.Bannan@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (James Bannan)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Global Envt Watch -Ch.9
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 18:32:48 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

JF>G'day Jimbo,

JF>Congratulations on running a Channel in K12net from Australia. I
JF>hope it goes well for you. I think that I have already placed a
JF>msg in there?

JF>ooroo

JF>K12net Council Member for Zone 3.

Thanks for the support John.  We are having hayfever season down here at the moment which makes the old head a little clouded with the pollen problem.  I will be glad when the air clears a little. Melbourne's weather is very up and down at the moment.  What's it like up north, "beautiful one day - cyclone the next????"
Cheers  Jimbo Down South


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From: Pam.Medema@f65.n228.z1.fidonet.org (Pam Medema)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: help
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 16:23:58 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:228/65 - K12 Educator, Muskegon MI

Let's spend more time trying to figure out how to get into files in bulletin board.


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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: RE: PUBLIC LIBRARY USE   
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 18:23:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

-> Thanks for the reminder here, at any rate.  Next semester when we
-> start another round of research projects, maybe we can remember to
-> give the librarians some warning, and even ask for some help.

At our school, a couple of times every year (usually once at the
beginning of the year, once in the middle and once near the end in
preparation for the following schoolyear) our librarian asks the
teachers to think about what topics they will be assigning for research
and to notify the librarians well in advance, and they will do their
best to have on hand materials on that subject. They even sometimes
purchase materials for this purpose.

Anyway, I just picked up on your idea of "working together", because the
librarian at our school really goes out of her way to do just that. She
solicits info from the faculty FAR in advance.

Sheila
(math teacher who assigns few, if any, "papers")
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                                                   

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From: Nancy.Freburg@p15.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Nancy Freburg)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Megan
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 11:57:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.15 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Dear Friend,                                                                        Dear Friend,
Hi!How are you?My name is Megan Allen.I'm in sixth grade at Highland Park Lewistown
-own Mt.,U.S.A. My hobbies are reading,drawing,and basketball.My teachers name
is Mrs. Sallee.What is your favorite subject in school?My favorite subjects
are reading and spelling.Please write back!!

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From: Nancy.Freburg@p15.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Nancy Freburg)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Raelynn
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 14:27:01 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.15 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Hi, my name is Raelynn Rinehart. I live in Lewistown Montana. I think it would
 be neat to have a pen pal. Would you like to be my pen pal? I am in fifth
 grade.

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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Grrrrrrrrr!!!!
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 04:03:32 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <09 Dec 92  08:54:00> to <Graham Gales> about <Bits and pieces ...>,
Peter Macinnis wrote:

 PM> Grrrrrrrrr!!!!!

It really is amazing how synapses fire!
Seeing your exclamation above (imagining it said with an Australian accent)
and half-remembering Christmases of my childhood, I was suddenly reminded
of English comics and books sent to me by relatives in England.  I used to
receive copies of Eagle Annual (and other great boys' books) as well as
copies of English comics, which were thick, newspaper-like affairs which
were somewhat larger than their North American counterparts.

Here I met the English version of Dennis the Menace who was not cute and
blonde.  Rather he was dark, untidy, and almost vicious in his pranks.  I
thought he was great!  Whenever he succeeded in putting one over on
someone, the consequent speech balloon was bound to contain "Grrrrrr!" as
Dennis was chased down the street.

BTW, read your Crooked Mick stories to my two children.  They thought they
were great!

Regards,
Steve

... File not found: Loading something that looked similar.

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From: Jane.Whitten@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Jane Whitten)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: ASSERTIVE DISCIPLINE(LEE 
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 21:57:21 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Thanks for the info. Yes I would love to know more. What I'm interested in 
is the positive points and the negative points of the program as others have 
used it. I am also interested in how others have adapted it to suit the 
different situations. It is also interesting to see it used in the elementary 
grades. 
Jane Whitten  Bridgewater, Nova Scotia, Canada Todays Temp -11c
Thanks again Sheila looking forward to hearing from you!

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From: Lynne.Jackson@f189.n132.z1.fidonet.org (Lynne Jackson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Libraries
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 09:53:13 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:132/189 - Leo Technology BBS, Londonderry NH

Hi Janet. My name is Lynne Jackson from Londonderry High School in
Londonderry, New Hampshire. I saw your name in some mail referring
other librarians to chat with you so I thought I would send this note.
Do you know of any high school librarians that are on k-12 I would love
to chat with them?  Thanks, Lynne Jackson



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From: Steve.Larson@p0.f10.n3402.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Larson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Hello
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 09:58:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3402/10.0 - Westwood High Schoo, Ft McMurray AB

In a message <13 Dec 92 23:34:01> to <All> about <Hello>,
Tim Adams wrote:

 TA> Hello from the cold midwest.  I have just discovered K12 and I am
 TA> slowly getting use to the enviroment.

Welcome aboard, Tim!
It's supposed to be going down to -35 C. tonight.  Of course, my automatic
garage door opener froze stiff and I'm watching the ice melt on the inside
of my office window.

K12net, among other things, is a great place to get your feet wet, so to
speak!  I'm sure you'll enjoy it.

Stay warm!

Regards,
Steve

... ########### <------Scratch off to reveal your prize.  

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From: Tom.Barrowman@f19.n267.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Barrowman)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: ....
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 13:45:58 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:267/19 - QMS Connection, Queensbury NY

I am interested in finding some nodes that are in the San Francisco bay area
 and carry K-12Net or any other educational networks.   The
 AUTODESK FOUNDATION may be interested in using this system for
 telecommunications.  I am presenting there at the end of January.  One
 activity is introducing FidoNet to the people.  They were currently using
 FrEdMail.  Doug Purdy and I are also writing a feature article to appear in
 the national magazine publication TIES.  We plan to include K-12 Net in the
 article.
Tom Barrowman



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Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
From: sister@iastate.edu (Chad M Bormann)
Subject: class suggestions
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:55:05 GMT

   I'm a junior majoring in English at Iowa State University.  I plan to
teach secondary english.  I was wondering if any teachers out there have any
suggestions as to some elective classes I could take that you think would be
helpfull later on in the classroom.  Is there anything you wish you would
have explored more when you were in school?  Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
 


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or turn it to stone
From: Robin.Bain@p5.f505.n770.z3.fidonet.org (Robin Bain)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Zone 2 moderator
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 08:25:47 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:770/505.5 - Southern Vortex, Dunedin

 >>             The K12net Council of Coordinators appoints

 >>                            Andre Rombauts
 >>                            at 2:293/2206

 >>              As the European (Zone 2) Moderator of the
 >>            K12net Teacher Chat Conference (K12.TCH_CHAT)

and congratulations from New Zealand Andre, schools here will be on holiday for the summer vacation from 18th December through till the end of January but we will hope to make contact with children and teachers in your area in 1993.
Kia ora


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Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
From: tlong@rvgs.vak12ed.edu (Tom Long)
Subject: keyboarding software
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Roanoke)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 19:04:02 GMT

I suggest Stickybear Typing.  Available on IBN and Apple at
about $35 from Quality Computers, FasTrack, and others.  I
don't know if it will do everything you want, such as student
record keeping but it is colorful and great for kids.  My 2nd
grade daughter uses it and seems to enjoy.  Course, she likes
about anything on the computer!

I agree that a teacher is best, but 1 teacher in a large class
can use a little help from a "computer teacher."

Good luck!
   ***************ProTerm Fever is Terminal*************** 
                           Tom Long 
                   Social Studies Department 
                    Buffalo Gap High School 
              Rt. 1, Box 124-A, Swoope, VA  24479 
   :) ***************The Apple Connection************** (:
From: Bob.Shayler@f470.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Bob Shayler)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.senior
Subject: flexible...
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:15:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/470 - IISME-NET, Berkeley CA

This is to Jason Wong, Kiev Lo, and Tana Rogers.  As long as you 
continue to follow the rest of the guidelines for using this echo, 
I'll ignore the fact that you are in college.  It's nice to read 
some messages with content!  (no flames to the Moderator from one-
line message writers, please!)
 
However, I do think you might be more interested in getting an 
Internet account at your college.  Usually someone in the computer 
science department can help you with that kind of request.
 
-Bob Shayler-
Moderator K12_SR_CHAT                      

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From: Josh.Burke@p0.f174.n138.z1.fidonet.org (Josh Burke)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.senior
Subject: Re: hello
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 23:14:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:138/174.0 - Black 424, Tacoma WA

Concerning a document dated 12-08-92  09:41, Heather Van Dessel screamed out:

 HVD> Hi! Everyone,  I am a sophomore at J-I High School and am looking for
 HVD> a pen pal.  My interests are sports, hobbies, etc.  Please drop me a
 HVD> line.

Hi Heather!  how are you?  I'm partying right now.  Life is so wonderful
I could jump up and jump down and just jump.


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From: Dan.Maziarz@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Maziarz)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.senior
Subject: hellooooooooooooooo
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 14:04:10 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Yeah, I guess I could spare a few key strokes for a lonely girl like you. What's up? Where do you live? I live in Massachusetts and go to Umass, the University of Massachusetts. What are you asking for, for Christimas? I am asking for the same old things, clothes, more clothes, and a new cd player. Well I'll talk to ya later on, see ya,
                 Dan


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From: Matt.Keller@f75.n2608.z1.fidonet.org (Matt Keller)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.senior
Subject: BBS #'s
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 15:41:32 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2608/75 - Norkids BBS, Norwood NY

        Okay. Green Field, Mass, huh?  Here goes.  SpaceMet North, (413) 772-1020.  That's all in Greenfield, however here are some others in the 413 area.
Chester, Mass-  "The Hill Town's BBS", 354-7830, upto 2400 baud, no fee.  
Chicopee, Mass-  "Carreer Systems Online", 592-9208, upto 14400 baud, no fee.
Easthampton, Mass-  "Shangrila", 527-7360, upto 14400 baud, no fee.
Springfield, Mass-  "Springfield Public Access TBBS", 536-4365, upto 19200 
        baud, no fee.
Westfield, Mass-  "PVCC User Group BBS", 568-4466, upto 38400 baud, no fee.

        I also have listing of a couple other in the 413 are, but they restrict access, however, leave another message for me if you want them. Later.


                                                                Matt Keller



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From: Dan.Maziarz@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Dan Maziarz)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.senior
Subject: SORRY
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 13:50:56 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Hey Carrie,
Don't worry about it, everyone makes a mistake now and then. You don't need to apologize to anyone. Talk to ya later,
                                    Dan


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From: Angela.Marie.Haaland@f7.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Angela Marie Haaland)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.senior
Subject: hello from MT
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 11:17:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/7 - The Russell Country, Hobson MT

Hi Cody!
     I can type (most of the time!) so I guess I fill your
requirments.  What's up?  My name is Angela and I live in the
middle of nowhere, Joplin, MT - the place where nothing exciting
ever happens.  I'm 16 and Junior here.  I have blond hair and
gray/blue eyes.  I'm also vertically impared (in other words
short!)  I guess I'm suposed to be looking for a penpal too. 
It's an assignment for our comp. apps. class.  Where do you live
and what type of things do you like to do?  Personally I'm really
into adventurous things.  Anyway...  Class is almost over so I
should probably go.  Write me back some time soon.
Love and other indoor sports....  Angela Marie Haaland---

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From: Ross.Gustafson@p0.f118.n138.z1.fidonet.org (Ross Gustafson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.senior
Subject: Re: sigh
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 22:14:22 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:138/118.0 - Keithley Komputer K, Tacoma WA

Hi Rob!  

  

anything else of consiquence to say?



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From: Sergey.Karyavy@p0.f118.n138.z1.fidonet.org (Sergey Karyavy)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.senior
Subject: Hi
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 19:23:48 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:138/118.0 - Keithley Komputer K, Tacoma WA

 

 Hello  Viorika!  How are you?  It's great to khow you.  Do 

 you  have any other Russians in your school?  I  have  two 

 Russian friends in my school.  Yes, I like to play  soccer 

 and basketball. I'm sorry but I don't understand your name 

 How do you spell it in Russian.

                                       BYE.



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From: Ross.Gustafson@p0.f118.n138.z1.fidonet.org (Ross Gustafson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.senior
Subject: Re: chatting
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:29:31 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:138/118.0 - Keithley Komputer K, Tacoma WA

Yeah, if ya can't get to the modem once in a while, the messages get 
messed up and erased.  Nice to hear from ya.  The same thing happened to 
the other Mercredi people I supose, your the first i've heard from there 
in a while.  

Well, i've never had your problem, cause i've never really had a 
girlfriend.  Workin'' on it though.  Almost have.  So I can't give ya 
much expert advice.  

Snowing pretty hard here, maybe no scoool tommorow.  anyway, see uja 
later.

ross



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