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From: torab@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Homayoun Torab)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: *** Shahram Nazeri Concert, Colombus, Ohio
Date: 25 Jan 93 22:20:36 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From article <C1E6J6.JB4@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, by ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca (Mohamad Ebrahimi):
> 
> In article : <1993Jan23.042807.9526@ee.eng.ohio-state.edu>
> reza@ce.eng.ohio-state.edu writes:
> 
>      ===> Originator: harrsen@parts.eng.ohio-state.edu
> 
>>In article <1993Jan22.151953.619@cbfsb.cb.att.com> torab@cbnewsf.cb.att.com >(Homayoun Torab) writes:
>>
>>>            *********************************************
>>>            ***	 Shahram Nazeri Concert,  Columbus, Ohio.
>>>
>>>            **** along with Ostad Jalal Zolfenoun and
>>>
>>>                           Shams group in two sections
>>>
>>>                           of Farsi and Kurdish.
>>>
>>>            **********************************************
.
.
.
.
> 
>>I have heard a rumor that this concert is being sponsored by
>>the elements of the regime. Is there any truth to this? I
>>have been also told that in LA this was exposed and the
>>concert was boycotted. Can anyone from LA either confirm or
>>deny this? 
> 
> 
> 
>      And even if there was no such rumor, you are making it now! It
>      certainly won't kill anybody to lie!
>   
> Mohammad
> 
>    P.S- What happened to your signature? ( Asghar, or something!)

        Thanks Mohammad.

        Saharam Nazeri and Jalal Zolfenoun are certainly two of the
        best and most recognized of the circle of few traditional music artist,
        who have constantly helped to teach and expand on persian traditional
        music. Their virtue and mastry and their effort to revive the 
        traditional persian music has grasped the attention of so many, 
        especially, many in the younger generation.
	
        Maybe that is why some groups of people should start making rumors
	about them.!!!!  

        The Iranian Cultural Society of Columbus, Ohio sponsoring this
        event is a NON-PROFIT organization with NO political inclination.
        I'm sure this program is started in other cities in a similar way.
	
	I attended one of Sharam Nazeri's concert before in Chicago, and 
	there was NO political inclination of any sort in the program.


        regards, 

        Homayoun Torab

-- 
Homayoun M. Torab
From: lajevard@pollux.svale.hp.com (Vahid Lajevardi)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:54:54 GMT
Subject: SIP's Skiing Trip
Organization: Hewlett Packard CPCD, Sunnyvale CA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian


SIP's skiing trip

SIP Bay Area is sponsoring a skiing trip for Feb 12-Feb 15. People
get together on Fri night the 12th and leave sometime on Mon the 15th.
The fee includes the place to stay near lake Tahoe and 3 breakfasts and
2 dinners and lift tickets as follows;

			Members		Non-Members

Lodging and Food	 $85		 $95
L&F+2 Lift Tickets	$155		$165
L&F+3 Lift Tickets	$190		$200

The lift tickets provided by SIP are for Squaw Valley ski resort. The
regular price is $40. SIP's price is $35. Farid Ghafghaichi is organizing
this trip, but since he doesn't have access to network if you have any 
questions you could ask me by email to lajevard@pollux.svale.hp.com.
Once you are decided I can fax you the registration form.

The turn out has been around 50 people in the past years.

Regards,
Vahid Lajevardi

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: afsar@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Haji Firoz)
Subject: Re: Ash-e reshteh (bokhori pateh, nakhori pateh!
Keywords: Haji in Denver for a short time
Organization: TARAF_DA_RANE ASH and SOUP 
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 93 16:46:42 GMT

Ramin Shamsili, Trondheim,Norway (Ramin G. Shamsili) writes:

[*** Yes, Haji deleted the lines ***]

>  HaAjii jAn, eyvAllAh; I hereby announce myself as one of the many tarafdArs
> of Ash-e reshte. Believe me, it is good to have some variations every now and then.

sa_ma_le_kom Ramin jan:
Haji is very happy to see that you like ASH-e reshte!. You are correct 
variations are needed in our daily food KHO_RY. You know some time I like
to look at the CHELOKABOB and not to eat it. Did you konw why?. Because,
after I eat the KABOB the fun of KABOB KHO_RY TA_MOM ME_SH_H!!!!!.

> My Norwegian physician says to me that if I eat chelokabAb
> all the time I get Del Roodeh! His advice is also valid for you!

My non Farsi physician says to me that too much beef and chelokabob
may make a GAV out of me.

> ...and HAji the Firooz:you better start posting your recipes because
> Ash-e kashk-e KhAlateh    Bokhori pateh, Nakhori pateh!!

BA_LE, BA_LE mash Ramin I will start the ASH KHO_RY and posting the
ASH recipes soon. 

KHAI_LY  MAM_NOON  BA_RA_YE  RAH_NA_MA_EE_TON

MOK_LESS, Haji the Firoz.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: Haji's KABOB KOBIDE
Keywords: Kaboby 
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 00:06:35 GMT

hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem) writes:

>Az hamsaram (Ramesh khanoom) yAd gereftam. Ramesh kheily Ashpaz-e khoob hast.

Brad khAn,

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    --mack
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From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: Why Tashdid?
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 23:06:19 GMT

bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi) writes:
>Mack jAn wrote:
>>I believe the correct words for second and third in Farsi are "doyom"
>>and "seyom". I may be wrong however.
>
>I also thought "doyom" and "seyom" were mostly used in poetry and some-
>times used in slang.  I am next in line when it comes to being possibly
>wrong!

Well, since no one has disagreed with the above, let's assume that
we're correct until otherwise stated.

>>>dast garmi Exercise:  What is the Persian word for aval?
>>
>>yekom?
>
>Good answer! [stuff deleted] ...My question still remains as the rule to
>tashdid a word is not a Persian language grammer rule:  Why do we apply a
>rule specific to Arabic language to words known to be Persian?

With my limited knowledge of Farsi, I would guess that it has to do
with the ending of those words (i.e. do - seh). They don't end in what
I would call them hard consonants. Can someone explain this better?

>And it looks like it happens only to these words.  I personally don't
>know of any other Persian word - besides the two cited above - that takes
>tashdid.

I couldn't think of any either.

>>Saturday through thursday have Farsi names, where as Friday uses an
>>Arabic word. Its Farsi equivalent is "Adineh". Why is Adineh not used?
>
>You got me Mack jAn!  I had forgotten about Adineh; it sure sounds nice.
>So are you going to play soccer this coming Adineh?

Nope, but my shoulder has sufficiently healed and I will weather
permitting try it out tonight in practice, and will play on it on 'yek
shanbeh".

>Regards,
>Hooshyar F. Naraghi
>bavafa@netcom.com
>(415) 322-8056

    --mack
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: bavafa@netcom.com (Hooshyar Naraghi)
Subject: Re: Why Tashdid?
Organization: Close Encounters of Haji Kind
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:29:56 GMT

I said:
>: dast garmi Exercise:  What is the Persian word for aval?

Haji replied:
>Cha_ke_ram:

Me too Haji.

>How about "yek" for "sar garmi Exercise". Do you think I can pass the first
>grade?.
>               /                                                              
>             (_)_                                                             

volek Haji you were so close.  Thanks for the attempt though.  You pass the
first grade no matter what because you are a bAhAl person, not to mention
that I am a chelo-kabAb fan too.

chAkerim,
Hooshyar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: farhad@CS.Stanford.EDU (Farhad Shakeri)
Subject: Re: Re; Desperately Seeking [sci-anon-poster]
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:55:56 GMT

In article <lmbnksINNphb@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>, >>>>>> Anonymous writes:
|> Blade-Runner writes:
|> 
|> >On behalf of my unwed sister and his baby, I'm looking for a person by the 
|> >name of M. Roohol-Amini.  If you know him or of his whereabouts, please 
|> >contact me immediately.
|> >
|> >There is a $5000 dollar award for this.
|> >
|> >Blade-Runner,
|> >
|> >(415)911-3759
|> 
|> 
|> I thought there is more reward for my head.  You are cheap.
|> 
|> But anyway, you don't have be mad at me.   It was all her fault.  
|> This is the way she wanted it.   Talk to her first and make sure 
|> that I am telling the truth then I will tell you where you can reach 
|> me.  
|> 
|> Vahid 
|>  


You are lying  Vahid,  I talked to her and you have ruined her life.

All those sweet talks will not work!  JamAl, her brother, is looking
for you and you better hide!  Not only that Her father is comming
from Iran and you know him very well, he is one of those old fasion
moslem fenatics.

So,
I recommand you look for a Lawyer and try to find some child
support!

-- 
Farhad
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From: shahrokh@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Shahrokh M.)
Subject: Re: khar to khar
Organization: Computer Science Department,  Stanford University, CA   USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 07:54:41 GMT

In article <93025.213130RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> Reza Modarres <RMODARR@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>Trying to traslate the concept of khar-to-khar to a friend, I found myself
>very much in confusion. Is there an English phrase convaying the same
>concept?

how about DONdonkeyKEY?

no?  ok, ill give it a shot despite my elementary-level farsi... how about,
say, "chaotic", as in:

ozA' kheyli khar-to-khareh -- the situation is very chaotic.

also:

. screwed up
. messed up
. topsy-turvy

let me check my dictionary under khar-to-khar too...

wow!  it says: "Khar-to-Khar: (Persian slang).  See S.C.I." !  ajab! 

>RezA

ps now if you had asked for gAv-to-gAv.... :)
From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: -None supplied- [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 23 Jan 1993 19:28:56 GMT
Organization: Notgheh MajjAni, Inc.
Distribution: world
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To: sci-anon-poster 
Originator: daemon@handel


Just a test. Pls. ignore it!

 
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From: torab@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (Homayoun Torab)
Subject: *** Shahram Nazeri Concert, Columbus, Ohio
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 15:19:53 GMT


            *********************************************
            ***	 Shahram Nazeri Concert,  Columbus, Ohio.

            **** along with Ostad Jalal Zolfenoun and

                            Shams group in two sections

                            of Farsi and Kurdish.

            **********************************************

            DATE   :  Saturday, Feb. 6th.

            TIME   :  7:30 PM.

            PLACE  :  Battelle Auditorium , 505 King Ave.
                      Columbus, Ohio
                      (Just south of Ohio State University)

            Ticket :  $25 /person $20 (student)
                      (children under 10 not allowed)

            CONTACT:  Mahmoud @ (614)-487-9253
		      torab@cbnea.att.com

-- 
Homayoun M. Torab
From: trh@jack.sns.com (Al Trh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Turkish Journalist Assasinated; Islamic Interpretation?
Date: 27 Jan 93 03:58:49 GMT
Organization: Systems'n'Software

In article <C1H4Dw.Ex6@ucunix.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Zafar T Minhas) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.101553.25722@ugle.unit.no> Ramin Shamsili, Dep. Inorganic Chemistry,7034,Trondheim,Norway (Ramin G. Shamsili) writes:
>>In article <1jukc0INNj00@morrow.stanford.edu> hq.ggg, HQ.GGG@forsythe.stanford.edu writes:
>>
>>The following news is taken from soc.culture.turkish; 
>>As the discussion on Islamic interpretation and Islamic rules continues in
>>our news group : soc.culture.iranian, I thought maybe someone can respond 
>>to the following question after reading the following news:
>>
>>Question : Is there any where in Islamic instruction and rules which makes it
>>HalAl or MobAh to take the life of a journalist with different way of thinking
>>and what will the supporters of Islamic goverment ( any kind of it, or is there
>
>NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! What the hell kind of a question is this? Does
>Islam allow you to kill someone just because you disagree with him/her?
>
>>eventually after comming to power?
>>
>>The first newspaper I read in Turkish was Cumhuriyet; Ever since
>>I have followed Ugur Mumcu+s  column in the paper with enthusiasm and
>>admiratrion although I did not agree with him 100%.
>>I cry for Ugur Mumcu and all the victims of violence and terrorism. May
>>his soul rest in peace........ 
>>
>
>
>BTW, i want to make clear that mumcu was killed by the bulgari secret
>intelligence. it was not the work of muslim radicals.
>
>zafar

You know something that may be very important in catching the murderer.
I suggest that you contact the Turkish authorities immediately. This
way the murderer would be caught, and Islam will be spared from further
accusations.

Al
From: farzin@apollo3.ntt.jp (Farzin Mokhtarian)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re; program for Farsi writing [sci-poster]
Date: 26 Jan 1993 01:12:30 GMT
Organization: SCI Friends & Family, Inc.
Distribution: world
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Originator: daemon@handel

                   
afsar@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Haji Firoz) writes:
  
@ cca218@ccsun.strath.ac.uk (J.S.Jafari-Sisi) writes:
@ : The only thing I know about this sofware is the name of it.
@ : Its name is GERDSOOZ and I tried to write with it but I couldnt
@ : If you see any article under MASH CHERAGHALI you could send
@ : E.MAIL and ask him.
@ : 
@ : 
@ : With Regards
@ : 
@ AQA Sirus, sa ma_le_kom:
@ 
@ This gerdsooz is a real nice work by a real nice and smart person (Mash cheragh
@ ALi). I use it most the times and I have been able to ported on UNIX system and
@ on IBM PC of my choice. It is a very friendly program and if you have difficulty
@ with it let Mash cheragh know about it and if Mash Cheragh Ali does not mind, I
@ will be very happy to help you. Please remember all the good credits goes to
@ the author of Gerdsooz. What I mean is do not give any one else a chelokabob or
@ ASH-reshte you should give it to Ali AghA. I have his real email address and I 
@ do not want to post it here because he may not want to. But If you post a 
@ "Help me gerdsooz" then he will see it.
@ 
@ Roseton Khosh.
@ Haji
                 

Mash Cheragh Ali was nice enough to do the implementation when I asked him
to write a program for Farsi writing using ascii characters. He can supply
the program and his original font file. The font file can be easily changed
which is what I have done to obtain fonts I prefer. If you like to try it
out, send me Email.
  
 - Farzin Mokhtarian
   farzin@apollo3.ntt.jp
                          
 
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From: mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Subject: Re: misrepresentation of islam (reply to hossein)
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:05:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.105828.4233@fmg.bt.co.uk> ghbr@fmg.bt.co.uk (Hossein Bagherzadeh Rafsanjani) writes:
>In article <C1Bpq3.Iyz@uceng.uc.edu> mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
>
>> >YES! IF it is used as means of consolidating the class/cast
>> >structure of the society (You know, X, that in India
>> >you cannot marry someone of a lower cast, and in Iran, you
>
>> What is a lower caste Zafar?  And who stops you from marrying anyone 
>> you want to in India?  A girl over 18 and a boy over 18 can marry anyone they
>> want to, that is the Indian law.
>
>Well, dont "accuse" Zafar.  I said it.  And I meant it in practice.
>Many who defy their families and do such a thing get into long
>term/permanent problems.

Zafar, I am really sorry, I didn't read the article properly.
Hossein I agree with you that if some people defy their families they
may get into long term'permanent problem, thut this can happen anywhere
in the world.

>I know there are a lot of laws in India banning many things like the
>above, child labour, religious discrmination, sectarian killings etc
>etc.  But almost all of these are practiced on a large scale - a
>symptom of deep-rooted social attitudes/values.
>
>-hossein

This is true, but they are not practiced on a large scale.  The attitudes
of people are changing with the rise in the educational rate.

Manoj
From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re; AsheghAneh [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 22 Jan 1993 22:39:46 GMT
Organization: Notgheh MajjAni, Inc.
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mansount@ucunix.san.uc.EDU (Nazanin Tehrani Moghaddam Mansouri) writes:

>Dear Shahram,
>   Asheghaneh's beginning is as follows:
>   "Ey shab az royAye to rangeen shode
>    Seene az atre to-am sangeen shode
>
>    Ey be rooye chashme man gostardeh kheesh 
>    shadeeyam bakhsheedeh az andooh beesh
>	...

Dear Nazanin:

dar Ayeneh mA rA bebin, IIIIII mean salAm. Thank you for correcting my
mistake. Now I remember. I used to know this one also, but unfortunately
I remember only part of it, which I am going to post. Then we can wait for 
AghA RezA or NPM (North-Pole-Man) to complete it for us. 

	ey shab az ro'yAye to rangin shodeh
	seeneh az atr-e to-am sangin shodeh

	ey beh rooye cheshm-e man gostardeh kheesh
	shAdiam bakhsheedeh az andooh beesh
	hamcho bArAni keh shooyad jesm-e khAk
	hastiam z-Aloodegi-hA kardeh pAk

	ey tapesh-hAye tan-e soozAn-e man 
	Atashi dar sAye-ye mojhgAn-e man
	ey ze gandomzAr-hA sarshAr-tar
	ey ze zarrin shAkhe-hA por-bAr-tar
	ey dar-e bogshoodeh bar khorsheed-hA
	dar ........

	bA to-am deegar ze dardi beem nist
	hast agar, joz dard-e khosh-bakhteem nist
	...

Isn't this a beautiful piece? If I remember the rest of it, I will post it.
About Forough's "haft sAlegi", I am sorry. I don't even remember my own
haft sAlegi! But serious, if I find out about it, be sure that I will mail it
you.

Thank you again,

ShahrAm




 
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From: shahrokh@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Shahrokh M.)
Subject: Re: Iranian/American culture (Re: .. translator in the house)
Keywords: followup on Aref/Ala discussion, Iranian/American cultural diff.
Organization: Computer Science Department,  Stanford University, CA   USA
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:59:11 GMT

In article <sehari.728169673@vincent1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>---
>
>There are things that is not good to talk about in a public form.  Now,
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                       
wuaaaaaahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahah!

and this is the *same* guy who wrote this?!?!  :

---------------
>                                        
>Call it any thing you want. With changes in the supreme court most of the
>crazy liberal ideas, will go down the drain.  How is it a rape, that girl says
>thank you after it, and cook you a good breakfast too?!

>My girl friend, or temp. wife whatever you like to call her, said to me, she 
>likes to be taken.  She said she likes a man who does not take a no for an
>answer. Even though, she is the one who is calling me all the time, and she
>is the one who wants to have sex.  Well it is normal, she is 6 years younger
>than me.

>She usually comes to my apt, when she sees me studying takes all her dress off,
>and sits in front of me. However, when I go to get her she says no and runs
>around my apt and shots NO. Well you see, after the "loving" she says thank
>you, too! The truth is, when I was more innocent, I gave up following her once
>, she told me what is wrong with me?! Is not she beautiful enough?! and, 
>she cried all night long. Since then, I never took her no as a "NO".
>
>                               
>My advise is do not lessen to people in "San Fransico".  Those people are not
>normal human beings.  They are gays.    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>  Babak.
>
>                      With highest regards,
>                           Babak  Sehari.
---------------

my thanks from the heart of my bottom for helping me come up with a new
quote for my .signature!

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SPARC Codegeneration & Optimization group           SunPro of Sun Microsystems 
Languages Department                                             (415)336-3337

                      
  "Ask not if an American (With regular education) is good for being 
   a husband of an Iranian Women, 
   Ask if an American (who has gone to public high school) is good for 
   your sister, daughter?!" 
 
                                                   - Babak Sehari 
                                                     20th (yes, 20th) century 
 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: Important note to sci-anon-poster's
Originator: sehari@vincent1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:20:31 GMT

In <1993Jan27.004450.17661@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> shahrokh@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Shahrokh M.) writes:


>>You should have written: Von Neumann

>oh forgive me for not properly capitalizing!  its my new years resolution.

Not a good resolution.  You should learn to write correctly.

>tell me, on line 3, is that a:

>  - function prototype 
>  - function call
>  - function definition

If you do not know, why should I wast my time in public form to tell you?!
Take a C course.

                   __Babak();
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