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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 02:57:19 -0400
From:         JDBER@CONNCOLL.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Secret Screens

Here's a new idea...

Why don't new, productive comments about Secret Screens (like the procedure
to see one in specific programs) be displayed on this list. Those have
something to do with the topic of this discussion group. The flames and all
are not really necessary, they should be posted directly to those who waste
bandwidth with those needless comments.

So this is not a complete waste of bandwidth, I will list the only three
reports of Secret Screens that have been revealed since I have been on this
mailing list.
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WINDOWS 3.1

1.- Start Windows Program Manager.
2.- Choose the Help Menu.
3.- Select 'About Program Manager...'
4.- Ctrl-Shift-DoubleClick on the Yellow part of the Logo.
5.- Click OK.
6.- Repeat steps  2, 3 & 4. (You'll see an animated Flag logo).
7.- Repeat steps 2, 3 & 4 again. (You'll see the staff screen).

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For Procomm Plus for Windows one reveals the "hidden screen" by doing
the following:

1) From the Window menu, select Monitor
2) Keep the focus on the monitor (i.e., make sure monitor is active, not
the Procomm Plus terminal window)
3) type GO DATASTORM! (case doesn't appear to matter, but the
exclamation mark is necessary; you'll probably hear beeps as the system
tells you this is an error)
4) Choose Help/About/Credits: instead of the usual list of names, you
should see a nice color picture of, I assume, the primary developers.


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WINDOWS 3.0

Hold down F3 and type win3
Release F3
Press Backspace

A Background is displayed with the names of the authors, etc.

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Now, let's be productive, shall we?

-jason bernstein
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 11:49:38 +0200
From:         "K.Steffens (IKP, Wilhelm-Klemm-Str.9,
              D-4400 Muenster) +49-251-83-4949"
              <steffens@VSIKP0.UNI-MUENSTER.DE>
Subject:      TPW 1.0 and Win3.1

Dear netlanders,

after upgrading a 486 here at our lab from Win3.0 to Win3.1 I found that I
could not use the TDW-debugger anymore, which comes with Turbo-Pascal for
Windows 1.0 and which used to work under Win3.0. It claims that it cannot
find the WINDEBUG.DLL, but this DLL is definitely where it should be and where
TDW running under Win3.0 was able to find it. Is there a fix available, and
where can I get it?

BTW, this debugger problem seems to be somewhat related to Win3.1, because the
old CodeView for Windows 3.05 doesn't run anymore after the upgrade as well.
How can I move around this without having to buy the C/C++ 7.0 and SDK 3.1?

Regards and thanks,
	Karsten Steffens		STEFFENS@VSIKP0.UNI-MUENSTER.DE
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:49:23 WST
From:         ywtang@CSD.HKU.HK
Subject:      RE: windebug.dll for win3.1
              "steffens@VSIKP0.UNI-MUENSTER.DE" at Sep 3, 92 7:59 am

>
> Dear netlanders,
>
>       thanks to all those who pointed me to the TPWN31.ZIP on simtel.
> BUT - it works, but only in a way that the debugger starts up properly.
> When I then try to single-step through the program, I always get an
> INT 13 message. This means, that something tries to access memory outside
> the range of the selectors. This error prevents proper debugging...
> A second hint that TDW is in conflict with the Win3.1 memory manager is,
> that in the Get-Info menu item it reports to have a maximum free block of
> 16 Megs, what cannot be on my system, because including the space in the
> pageing-file I only have 12 Megs of accessible memory. So maybe one has
> to wait for a *real* win3.1 version of the TDW. Borland says, the files
> provided in TPWN31.ZIP have been produced at a very early stage and may
> imply problems under some circumstances... So I seem to encounter those
> circumstances here on our computer. Bad luck.
>
> BTW: Microsoft CodeView for Windows also makes use of a WINDEBUG.DLL, but
> it also failed with Win 3.1. Luckily the Borland WINDEBUG.DLL also solved
> the CodeView problem! And no INT 13 errors happen at all! Nice!
>

        Then probably you may want to upgrade to TPW1.5, I've
        not use the new TDW comes with TPW1.5 but I believe
        it *should* work better.

        The upgrade price here is around $29 USD.

--
Chris Lo
ywtang@csd.hku.hk
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University of Hong Kong
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Subject: trident
Date: 29 Aug 92 20:31:47 GMT
Organization: The Hebrew University of Jerusalem

Some days ago I requested help with by trident windows drivers.
You people sent advice which worked.  Thank you very much.
-dennis turner
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 08:48:00 MDT
From:         FARAGHER@MSCD.BITNET
Subject:      Windows 4

Has anybody heard anything about Windows 4?  All the discussion seems to be
centered around NT.........Mike Faragher
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 18:12:18 CDT
From:         C461384@MIZZOU1.BITNET
Subject:      Bitmaps and API

1. Besides the venerable Pertzhold book (which is not a proper API
   reference) I sugest getting The API Bible.  It's got the stuffe
   my three other API references never even thought of, it's not too
   expensive, and has an interesting cover.

2. OK OK OK In 2 weeks or so I will get a bitmap demo for VB done
   which will include some basic animation tricks, placing an icon
   onto a color bitmap with see-through parts and whatnot.
   Hopefully I will Have time.  If more than 5 people tell me
   directly that they want it I will post the info to the list.
   Note: Just ecause it's in VB doesn't mean this might not be usefull for
   the TPW and BC++ folks out there since it uses API stuff anyway.

Thanks to everyone who straightened my caffiene soaked brain out about
the bitmap over bitmap placement logical combinations. Yes it can be
done in 2 logical ops in the API without flicker. I thought so, just
too stupid on my own.

BTW: I still choke when I admit that VB is a really good environ to
     do win stuff in.  The combo of VB and BC++ for DLL's just can't
     be beat (yet).  Hopefully Someone will do a VB-like development
     environ for C++.  I can't believe I use BASIC! AAAAaaaaaargh.

3.  Does anyone know of a LISP or SCHEME for windows?
    Better yet, something along shareware lines. COMMON LISP preferred.
Thanks for ye olde bandwidth.
Birk
vonBirk MUltimedia 1992
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Date:         Tue, 1 Sep 1992 14:46:49 +0200
From:         Paer Ekelund <d89pe@PT.HK-R.SE>
Subject:      Printing problems in W4W and Novell.

Hello.

I have a small problem. I have written a small text in W4W. I have used some
 truetype fonts downloaded from CICA. When I print the text on the Canon LBP-8
 III, on our novell network, the text becomes totaly wrong. It is just as if the
 printer had added some extra characters (in normal text format), and added some
 tabs in the text. I can print a list of all the fonts without problems.

I hope that someone out there can help me with the problem.



	/ Eken / The Oak / Die Eiche / De Eik / Hrast / O Carvalho / Eiken
	/ Le Che^ne / La Encina / Roble / To"lgy / Kashi / Velanidia
	/ Alon / An Crann Daire / Xiang Shu / Quercus / Ca^y So^i =
	Paer Ekelund / Tranbaers v 19:4 / 372 38 RONNEBY / SWEDEN =
	d89pe@pt.hk-r.se / d89pe@ide.ide.hk-r.se.

If you know how to spell The Oak in other languages please E-mail me.
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 01:20:20 EST
From:         Americo Barbosa de Oliveira <americo@ICAD.PUC-RIO.BR>
Subject:      Windows NT printing

I am having some difficulties printing with the Windows NT.  I have a
Laserjet IIP.  What happens is that the print manager simply says that
my printing job has 0 pages and that's all that happens, nothing on paper.

I had to use the batch instalation, so I am not sure if it did everything
right.

Muito Obrigado,
Americo Oliveira.


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Subject: Re: trident
From: edowdy@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 23:25:12 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City

In article <WIN3-L%92082715153715@UICVM.BITNET>, David Heck <O1DSH@AKRONVM.BITNET> writes:
> The TVGAW31A.zip & TVGAW31B.zip files CAN be found at wuarchive...
> I was looking in the wrong directory <grin>...one of just many
> brain farts today...vacation can't come quick enough this weekend!!
> The files are in the mirrors/msdos/windows3 directory.  I've unzipped
> them already and installed them, work  just fine!!  Thanks for all
> the help and patience...
> 
> David Heck, jr.
> 
> 
> "Patience is a virutue and a little wouldn't hurt you"...David Heck Sr.
> ;)

	Dave, that was not your brain cloud it was mine! I just took a little
long in getting back to you. Sorry. I just went back and looked before I logged
on and found my error.

Do you think they work better than the beta drivers we currently have?

Eric
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:54:32 EDT
From:         "Thomas L. Blaskovics" <U2347@WVNVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Local Bus Video Boards

From what I can discern, you may be better off today with something like
an ATI Ultra.  In the future you probably will see a migration to accelerators
being built into the mother boards.
HTH

 Tom Blaskovics
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:41:44 EST
From:         Maurice Rich <M.Rich@ITC.GU.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Dos shell from windows crashes after QVTNET27 install

Hi Fellow NetFolk !
			I've just completed an install over Win 3.1 of the
following items,..

	Packet driver 3c503 v10.?
	WinPkt
	Netware Workstation for Windows (winup6.zip)
	QVTNET27

Everything works now ! Except that when we try to shell to dos from Windows
we get a message similar to the following.

Invalid VxD dynamic link call to device 0003, service 0013.
Your Windows Configuration is Invalid. Run the Windows Setup program again
to correct the problem.

Etc...  It then asks whether I want to continue with Windows and that if I
do I "will probably experience problems" !!

Regardless of whether I do or don't continue Windows then Quits with a
similar message to above (device 0003, service 0014)

Config is 33mhz 486, 3c503, 8Mb RAM, 120Mb hdd (i think) MSDOS 5.5, pdipx
(byu modified 3.04 ??), netx 3.26.

Anybody got any Ideas how to resolve this ?  I'm open to helpful
suggestions/solutions !


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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 09:08:41 EDT
From:         BENH@NIHRRLIB.BITNET
Subject:      CYRILLIC FONTS

|Date: 8-31-92  9:01am
|From: benh:ncrr-lib:nih
|  To: WIN3-L@UICVM:BITNET
|Subj: CYRILLIC FONTS
------------------------------------------------------------------
Does anyone know how I can get Cyrillic fonts without having to use the
ALT-NUMKEY equivalents.  I tried the cyrillic fonts on Cica and they
come up on the fonts pull-down menu, but they don't change the fonts in
the document at all.  If there was a way to remap the keyboard to its
ALT-NUMKEY equivalent, that would be fine.  Any help is appreciated.

-Ben Hope                             Internet:Benh@NIHRRLIB.BITNET
NIH LIBRARY                             Bitnet:Benh@NIHRRLIB
Bethesda, MD
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 17:37:00 EDT
From:         ERIC WEBB <EWZ@NCCIBM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: windows & Novell

> My first question would have to be which version of the NETX and IPX
> drivers are you running???  Use the ipx i command to find out.  A lot
> of very strange problems can occur with windows if the drivers are not
> the lastest and greatest.
>
> Sarah Bush

If, as Sarah says in another posting, you have no memory conflicts
among RAM/ROM addresses, the following Novell versions should work fine:

IPX /I
VERSION 3.10

NETX /I
VERSION 3.26

These are the most current DOS versions about which I know.  In any
event, they work for us.

Regards,
Eric Webb
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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 10:22:07 CDT
From:         John Todd <FA22@UNTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      QVT/Net

I learned of QVTNet from the list and downloaded it from CICA.  I am
not able to figure out all of the things that must go into the
configuration file.  Can someone send me an example of such a file?

Thanks.
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 19:59:02 HOE
From:         Javier del Hoyo <JHOYO@VM1.SDI.UAM.ES>
Subject:      Writing Sectors in Windows

Hi,
I have to write phisical sectors of a Disk inside a Windows-3.1 program.
I{d like to know if anybody have ever do the same. I used the BIOSDISK
function of C++ and it used to work fine (in DOS programs, you know),
but inside Windows I{m not able to.    Hope somebody can help me. Thanks|
                     Javier.

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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 13:03:27 CDT
From:         "Chet Farmer, Asst. Dir., Project IDEALS" <CFARMER1@UA1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: DOS question

While the "For..." solution is far more elegant, I suggest that the
redirection solution you are searching for is :

Del c:\tmp\*.* < y.txt


With Y.TXT, of course, consisting of a single 'y' followed by a carriage
return.

-c

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Date:         Sun, 30 Aug 1992 00:19:45 EST
From:         Leandre_Racicot@CMR001.BITNET
Subject:      TC++ OR BC++ With App. FW

Hi,
Thanks to all who answered my last 1000 postings about programming!
I narrowed my choice to two packages: TC++ and BC++ for Windows.
I have one last question: I won't be needing DOS compiles, nor I
can manage to free 50mB on my 40MB (SStored) HD. What would I lose
in Windows's ease of programming if I choose TC++ over BC++? Can I
get the Windows Application frameworks as a separate package?
For how much?

TIA
BPROF02@CMR001.BITNET
Benoit Racicot
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Date:         Mon, 31 Aug 1992 12:42:11 CST
From:         A16905@ITESO.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Secret Screen

I also second it. What amount of code do you need to get an animated icon and
a series of names ?!

And it is cute. I like the animated Icon.

Shalom,
Memo.
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:27:48 CDT
From:         "David H. Roberts" <DHROBERT@SAMFORD.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Win31 Swapfile probs
              3 Sep 1992 15:48:24 -0600 from <STRASHEA@ZENO.MSC.COLORADO.EDU>

I have a 200Mb drive with a 15Mb Win3.1 permanent swapfile.  No problems.
Just defrag the files before installing the swapfile.

   David H. Roberts
   Director of University Writing Programs
   Samford University
   Birmingham, AL 35229-2207 USA
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From: skcgoh@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Shaw Goh)
Subject: Re: (no subject given)
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 05:35:16 GMT

BOBL@VM1.UCA.EDU (Bob Lowe) writes:
: I have a question regarding the use of Paintbrush to make wallpaper.  I used
: Paintbrush to create a custom .BMP wallpaper design for my machine.  However,
: the design does not completely cover my video screen.  What do I need to do in
: order to size it properly?  Thanks in advance.
: 
: Bob Lowe
: Department of Kinesiology
: The University of Central Arkansas
: BOBL@VM1.UCA.EDU

Get Pshop Pro.  This will let you resixe, crop etc to the right video
size.
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Date:         Sun, 23 Aug 1992 14:56:00 MST
From:         4TMS009@MC.BITNET
Subject:      Mouse Systems Mouse Drivers

Could someone please help...

I haven't been able to locate the new Mouse Systems mouse drivers for
Windows 3.1.  If someone knows where they are, could you PLEASE tell
me. Or, if you have them could you upload them to some FTP site.

Thanks,

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 12:30:08 GMT
From:         Bob Kane <bob@WORMS-EMH2.ARMY.MIL>
Subject: Re: Win31 Swapfile probs
X-To:         Microsoft Windows Version 3 Forum
              <WIN3-L%UICVM.BITNET@pucc.princeton.edu>

>Just a quickie.. I recently had to install WIN31 onto a 386sx33MHz(4Mb)
>with a 100Mb Kolak drive. Strangely WIN31 had already been installed
>(albeit unsatisfactorally) so I simply re-installed "over the top of it".
>When installing this way (from the floppies) I was prompted for swapfile
>size etc. But! It claimed that a permanent swapfile was  not possible due
>to the disk partitioning (only 1 partition, DOS 5) so I had to set up a
>temporary swapfile. How can I force it to make a permanent one.. or was
>there something that I did wrong? Thanks..
>
>Andrew Scott
>Internet: ascott@tartarus.uwa.edu.au

The permanant swapfile for Windows 3.1 must use contigueous disk space.  Over
time a drive will become so fragmented due to constant creation and deletion
of files, that there is simply not enough contigueous disk space available
for Windows to create a permanant swap file.  The answer is to fully defragment
your disk drive, and than try to create the swap file.  There are many disk
drive defragmentors out there, I use Norton's Speed Disk.

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Date:         Fri, 28 Aug 1992 08:52:24 BST
From:         John Cowles <jcowles@CSM.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: Bitmaps and API

I would be delighted to receive any info you can supply re your message on
Bitmaps and the API.

THanks in anticipation.


John Cowles
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:39:26 EDT
From:         "Patrick Black" <pbb@HANOVER-CRREL.ARMY.MIL>
Subject:      error
X-To:         WINDOWS List <WIN3-L@uicvm.uic.edu>

	I keep getting a run time error when I try
	to access a dialog box.  The error is:

		Error received: error code = -5

	I am using OWL and BC++ 3.1.  When I use the
	debugger, I find the failure occurs in the
	header file windows.h when:

		PTApplication GetApplication
			{return Application;}

	is called.


	Thanks
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Subject: Re: CGA driver for Windows 3.1
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:54:00 GMT
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When I had to set up a computer with 3.1 and a CGA monitor, I was not
able to find a CGA driver anywhere so I called Microsoft and downloaded
theirs and it worked fine.  I also had them send me their driver
library since I work on so many different computer systems with 3.1
With the driver library, I now have every driver that Microsoft has
to date for 3.1.  Do you need me to upload it to CICA for you???
I know from experience that it works......???  Also you can get the
driver library too just by calling them.  I didn't have to pay anything
for it, but I am also with a large government/education facility.  I
don't know if that makes a difference where pricing on the driver
library is concerned.....

Sarah Bush
Consultant, University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 13:49:00 EST
From:         Andrew Myers <MYERSA@HOPE.BITNET>
Subject:      PIF Printer

Say...

Dos anyone know of a convenient way to print out .PIF files?
The only thing I can think of is to paste 'em from the .PIF
editor into Paintbrush; hardly an elegant solution.

Might there be a program out there in netland that'll do the trick?

--Andy

============================================================================
Andrew Myers                                              myersa@hope.bitnet
Computing & Information Techonology                 myersa@hope.cit.hope.edu
Hope College, Holland, MI, USA         "...It's big, it's heavy, it's wood!"
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