From: tomg@hpcvusc (Thomas J. Gilg)
Subject: Re: X Windows on 9000/710
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 23:18:10 GMT

> It seems that our newly arrived HP workstations aren't quite completely
> ready for X programming.  I'm not completely sure what we're missing, but
> it appears like many, many header files.  Common problem?  What's the 
> fix?

Two part answer which applies to HP-UX 8.* and 9.0, and Domain/OS 10.3.5
and 10.4:

First, HP ships the "supported" X world in two chunks.   The "runtime"
chunk consisting of Xserver, Motif Window Manager, HP-VUE, Shared Libraries,
and corresponding man pages ships bundled with the OS.   The "developers"
chuck consisting of header files, archived libraries, UIL, and corresponding
man pages ships in a layered product known as the UEDK - User Environment
Developers Kit.   Together, they represent what HP does support, but as
many have pointed out, it doesn't support everything available from MIT,
hence....

Second, HP has cooked up the entire MIT offering (R5) for HP-UX and
Domain/OS, and made the results available via InterWorks.   We are hoping
in the long run to establish the InterWorks Contrib tape as our official
way of getting "unsupported contrib" software out the door.   The support
issues fall to the side by doing this, we as an organization don't have
to hassle with system release schedules and rules, and it takes I'd guess
~3% the effort a real supported release would need.  Since announcing the
InterWorks X contrib, traffic has gone from ~80 to ~1000 ftp-grabs per
month off the Iworks node.   I don't know what the tape and CD ROM traffic
is up to now - the tapes and CD-ROMS address those who don't have network
access.

Like Dave Shaw said, feel free to give feedback via InterWorks.  Two
years ago, I doubted any X contrib would happen - it since has.   Marketing
is now mulling over the results from this years Iworks conference -
imake was mentioned as a "we should finally support" by some in our own
organization.    Could it be in 93' - hopefully.

Thomas Gilg
UTD-CV Support Engineer
tomg@cv.hp.com

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<Clip from marketing information currently pending release  --tomg 9/15/92>

MIT X11 R5 CORE DISTRIBUTION
 
InterWorks is offering a version of the MIT X11 R5 CORE DISTRIBUTION
for various HP platforms.  The bits are available from the InterWorks
Users Group via Internet or modem.  For a nominal fee, the distribution
is also available via tape or CD ROM.

Membership in InterWorks is free and can be obtained by contacting:
        Carol Relph
        phone: 508/436-5046
        fax: 508/256-7169
        e-mail: relph_c@apollo.hp.com

For information about acquiring the InterWorks Library contact:
        Dave Shaw
        phone: 303/443-9413
        email: librarian@iworks.ecn.uiowa.edu

The InterWorks Library includes the following:

1. Executables
        Linked SHARED for HP-UX 8.*/9.0(S300/400/700/800):
        Linked ARCHIVED Domain 10.4(68K, DN 10K):

        appres      atobm       bdftopcf    bitmap      bmtoa
        bsdinst     editres     fs          fsinfo      fslsfonts
        fstobdf     ico         imake       lndir       listres
        makedepend  maze        mkdirhier   mkfontdir   oclock
        puzzle      resize      showfont    showrgb     startx
        twm         viewres     x11perf     x11perfcomp xauth
        xbiff       xcalc       xclipboard  xclock      xcmsdb
        xcmstest    xconsole    xcutsel     xditview    xdm
        xdpr        xdpyinfo    xedit       xev         xeyes
        xfd         xfontsel    xgas        xgc         xhost
        xinit       xkill       xload       xlogo       xlsatoms
        xlsclients  xlsfonts    xmag        xman        xmh
        xmkmf       xmodmap     xon         xpr         xprop
        xrdb        xrefresh    xset        xsetroot    xstdcmap
        xterm       xwd         xwininfo    xwud

2. Libraries
        Built archived and shared for HP-UX:
        Built archived for Domain:

        libX11      libXt       libXdmcp    libXaw      libXau
        libXmu

3. X11 R5 sample SERVER
        source and executable built for HP-UX 8.07/9.0:

        705  1280x1024 grayscale
        710L 1024x768 color graphics
        710C 1280x1024 color graphics
        710G 1280x1024 grayscale
        720, 730, 750 with:
             A1659A CRX 1280x1024 color graphics
             A1924A GRX 1280x1024 grayscale
             A2269A Dual CRX 1280x1024 color graphics

        This server will also be delivered to the MIT X Consortium
        for public distribution.

4. A Complete set of MIT X11 R5 source, documentation, fonts, bitmaps

NOTE 1. Do not try to mix generic MIT or OSF code with enhanced
        HP code.
     2. HP Classic GUI source is also available: X11 Fortran
        bindings, graph widget (OSF/Motif compatible), cxi widgets,
        X-ray User Interface Toolbox