From: wag5@quads.uchicago.edu (john peter wagner)
Subject: Re: Clinton Policies (was: Re: Legalized Theft)
Reply-To: wag5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:38:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.194152.3340@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov (Dr. Norman J. LaFave) writes:
>In article <21528@rpp386.lonestar.org>, jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:
>> 
>> In article <00716430161@elgamy.sccsi.com> elg@elgamy.sccsi.com (Eric Lee Green) writes:
>> >The way I see it, if a person is willing to work hard and work long, that
>> >person should be rewarded for that work with reasonable health care and
>> >an adequate diet for that person and her children.
>> 
>> I believe that, if a person is willing to work hard and work long, that
>> person should be rewarded with a new 486/50 DX with a 330MB SCSI, 64MB
>> RAM, SVGA monitor and an Exabyte 2.3GB 8mm tape drive.
>> 
>> Oh.  Health care is a "right".  I keep forgetting that basic liberal
>> assumption.  Now, why isn't it that a nice computer isn't a "right"?
>> I keep forgetting.
>> -- 
>> John F. Haugh II                   | "The US Government has the Midas Muffler
>> Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151            |  touch: everything they touch turns to
>> UUCP: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh |  shit."
>> Domain: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org      |                  -- Jay Maynard
>> 
>> 
>
>Come on John,
>
>You are not going to die if you don't get a computer. You're not going to
>be permanently damaged without a CPU of your very own. Furthermore, you
>can CHOOSE to own a computer or not without consequences. Try again.
>
>Dr. Norman J. LaFave

	Are you saying that health care is restricted to those
in a life-threatening state?  What about people with fractures,
ear-infections, etc.?  And if we add those, then at what point should
we limit the 'bodily correction?' At breast-implants, nose-jobs,
etc., which can help diminish the pain of low self-estem?
	The fact is, everyone dies.  A recent study found that even
if a cure was found for most ailments and was applied, the average
life expectancy would only rise to 85 years of age.  How and when
should people die?  What is the overriding reason for protection of life?
I have not found any singular philosophical stance or ideal of the
Democratic party or in any of your posts stating that there is in fact,
any more meaning to life than the quick screw or the drug-induced
'high.'  I see your stance on providing health care as being simply
a placebo to make everything look rosey when in fact it isn't.
In fact, this is also the way one might view the Democrats' revulsion
towards the deficit, which, if it had been replaced by taxation, would
not bring to light the true cost of depriving an economy of money.
	No, LaFave, you are afraid of something. What is it?  What
are you and the Democratic politicians so intent upon keeping hidden?
When in fact, the economy turns total 'sour-graps,' will you enact
a war to destroy your international competitors? Will you close up
private methods of trade with people of lands controlled by the free which
have private markets surpassing ours?
	What is your true singular goal or philosophy?  I think I have
an idea, but I want you to have a chance to respond. I think it involves
Roussaeu.

				J. Wagner

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