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From: manley@optilink.UUCP (Terry Manley)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: CDs cheaper to make than cassettes?
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:55:03 GMT
Organization: DSC/Optilink Access Products

In article <1992Nov13.204737.18626@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
>
>The chips with the co-processor cost more, because it has more components.
>Thus, more chips fail testing - this increases the unit cost of the chip.

Diving right into the trivia we also find the curious case of the 565
Phase Locked Loop and the 566 Voltage Controlled Oscillator.  Is it
not true that the 566 a 565 whose phase-detector has failed at probe? 

Dave "DON'T CALL ME TERRY" Manley

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From: s921878@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Daniel John Lee Parnell)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Date: 17 Nov 1992 00:47:51 GMT
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

Hi,
	about a year ago, somebody in Sydney(I think), tried to blow up an ATM
They blew the hell out of the front of the bank but hardly damaged the ATM!

				Daniel 
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From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Snuff film?
Date: 19 Nov 92 18:01:16 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats

In article <18NOV199212361929@csa3.lbl.gov> jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera) writes:
>> It seems like people who deny the existence of snuff films have forgotten 
>> about Faces of Death.While no one (that I know of) was killed for the purpose 
>> of the videos, it certainly shows people dying.
>
>Cripes, there's enough footage of that variety to fill a mausoleum.  We're
>a rather bloody species and a lot of us have had cameras rolling while this
>axiom was demonstrated.  Nothing extraordinary about that.
>
>For bandwidth preservation purposes, a special, restrictive definition of
>"snuff" has been evolved and placed in the AFU FAQ, along with some of the
>reasoning and argumentation behind it.  As I understand it, a film isn't
>up to snuff unless killing is performed rather than simulated (AFU readers
>and police agencies alike would love to see the proof).  Further, it must
>be done on purpose (if Spielberg had included the deaths of Vic Morrow and 
>the kid in "The Twilight Zone," that wouldn't constitute snuff) especially
>for the film (no "Faces of Death," news footage, etc.) and released for the
>purirent interests of others (as opposed to a sicko's, er, private scrapbook).
>
>If you think you know of a film which can run that gauntlet, let's hear it.
>Thus far, nothing has.

I think that back when the fake file "Snuff" came out, the definition of a
snuff film was slightly different.

In the writings of the Marquis De Sade, he describes people that he calls
"libertines".  Libertines subscribe to escalating levels of degradation to
increase the thrill of sex, which culminates in murdering the sex object
while performing some unspeakable sex act.  The sexual victim was, of course,
not clued in to this final stage.

I've always felt that a snuff film would be a record of an orgy of this
type, recorded on film and sold to sickos who actually enjoy the thought
of this type of thing.

To me, a snuff film must combine sex and death, with the unknowing victim
getting a surprise at the end.  

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Puff the Magic Dragon
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:01:52 GMT

kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak) writes:
: |> 
: |> I think it's just an urban legend.  Has anyone here actually *seen*
: |> an album?  Or is it just FOAFs who have owned them?
:  
:  Furrfu! An album is a collection of songs released as a package. The 
: medium doesn't matter - it can be compact disc, cassette tape or DAT.
:  
:  -Jim "now he'll have to get his bands redone" Kasprzak

Isn't that "... He knows he will have to have a new band job."?

Bill "Take me for a ride in your car car" Nelson 
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From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,rec.nude
Subject: Re: Driving without shoes
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:05:11 GMT
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu

In article <9694@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:
>I hope all of you following up to this from AFU know that IT IS A USENET LAW
>that if you post or crosspost into "rec.nude", you MUST be nude while doing
>the posting.  You are subject to "disiplinary action" if you are not!

It should be further noted that we do have rec.nude police who monitor
people posting to rec.nude to insure that you are indeed nude while posting.
It does no good to lie and using the excuse that you can't take your clothes
off because you are at work or in a full terminal room at school just
doesn't cut it.  You MUST be nude when posting to rec.nude and you don't
even want to know the penalty for posting while wearing clothes. [Although,
we have been known to show leniency towards people wearing only shoes and
socks.]

If you are reading this through any other group and you are NOT NUDE then
I suggest you remove rec.nude from the Newsgroups line to protect yourself
from being confronted by naked people.
From: warren@nysernet.org (Warren Burstein)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Famous Americans on Christianity
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:40:43 GMT
Reply-To: warren@nysernet.org
Organization: Mail to News Gateway at Wang Labs

In <1992Nov17.144530.28387@urbana.mcd.mot.com> mscott@charm.urbana.mcd.mot.com (Mark Scott) writes:

>Here's a few that I can think of off the top of my head.

But are you related to any of them?
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 |warren@      Hall."  Though "Batman Returns" is fiction, it's not too
/ nysernet.org much stranger than truth - Caryn James, The New York Times
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: kasprj@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Jim Kasprzak)
Subject: Re: Puff the Magic Dragon
Reply-To: kasprj@rpi.edu
Organization: The Big Wedge 
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 15:38:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.040401.5956@zip.eecs.umich.edu>, stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame) writes:
|> In article <18NOV199221224760@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov> dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes) writes:
|> >In article <1992Nov18.223459.3424@pixel.kodak.com>, 
|> >  young@serum.kodak.com writes...
|> >>	HA!  __I__ still have the album!!!
|> >  What's an album?
|> 
|> I think it's just an urban legend.  Has anyone here actually *seen*
|> an album?  Or is it just FOAFs who have owned them?
 
 Furrfu! An album is a collection of songs released as a package. The 
medium doesn't matter - it can be compact disc, cassette tape or DAT.
 
 -Jim "now he'll have to get his bands redone" Kasprzak
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From: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall)
Subject: Re: Tomorrow's Conspiracy Theory, brought to you today.
Originator: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:57:21 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <1992Nov17.192012.3428@midway.uchicago.edu>, pynq@quads.uchicago.edu (George Jetson) writes:
>Is there anything in the Constitution or the laws of this country to
>prevent jailbirds from holding elective office?  

Nothing to prevent them from running, at least.  Socialist candidate
Eugene V. Debs got almost a million votes in 1920 while imprisoned under
the Espionage and Sedition Acts for having made statements that had a 
"tendency" to induce people to evade the draft in World War I.  After 
the election, President Harding pardoned him and had dinner with him 
in the White House.

ObFact:  The highest percentage of a state's vote ever won by a
Socialist Presidential candidate was Debs's 16% in Oklahoma in 1912.

Bruce "I'm proud to be an Okie from Muskogee, comrade" Tindall
-- 
Bruce Tindall, Core Testing Mgr., SAS Institute Inc., Cary, N.C. 27513
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: dw@unislc.uucp (Dan Wright)
Subject: Re: UL in a Time Warp!
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 22:11:56 GMT

Charles Lasner wrote:
:  ...(Dan Wright) writes:
: >
: >Where did the "marital status" bit come from?
: 
: You were the one who referred to *it* not me.

The closest I came was to say that I simply adore her.  cjl provided the
imaginative leap from "adore" to "marital status".  That's exactly why I
thought it was funny to ask where it came from.  It was clearly a Freudian
slip he experienced while seeing red.  I hope this message reaches him
before my articles have timed out on his system, so he may look back and
verify this for himself.

: As to the "tastes like chicken" stuff, don't single me out, as the same
: could be said of some Terries, Teds, and Joes etc. as well.

He's got a good point here.  The same old jokes run on and on, that's the
nature of the group.  cjl doesn't deserve to be singled out, except that he
seems to post slightly more of them than the others.

[ miscellaneous hollow name-calling vaporized ]
: Just because I happen to have good recall of an era you missed, doesn't mean
: that this is a good or bad thing.  I can mentally "relive" quite a lot of
: history that did happen.  Folklore groups are all about the retelling of
: what has happened in the past, as well as debunking misconceptions about it.

He's right about this.  This is why he's not in my kill file.  I've never
said he's a worthless a.f.u'er, but only that I rarely appreciate his
humor.  I've also bothered to recount the obvious -- that this is nothing
more than one man's reaction and that humor is personal thing.  Posts of his
which aren't quips, such as his current contributions to the "CDs cheaper
to make than cassettes" thread, reveal expertise and articulation.

: By definition, AFU *is* its own .d group.
 
Where in the FAQ does it say that, or has he waved his hand to "make it
so"?  This thread is very "meta", and lacks OBUL entries.

  -- Dan Wright
From: rob@zorro.cecer.army.mil (Rob Knauerhase)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: CDs cheaper to make than cassettes?
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:29:50 GMT
Organization: US Army Corps of Engineers Construction Engineering Research Labs

In <TRIF.92Nov16154954@bike.rad.washington.edu> trif@bike.rad.washington.edu (To Run In Fear) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.193529.1384@vicorp.com> jmethot@vicorp.com (John Methot) writes:
>   have 32 bit wide access to the motherboard's data bus, while the data
>   path on SX's is only 16 bits wide.  Both have 32 bit *internal* data busses

>You are mixing up the 486 and 386 versions of SX and DX.  A stupid move on
>Intel's part, IMHO, but c'est la vie.  A 486 SX has a disabled co-processor.
>A 386 SX has the smaller external path.

Well, we're getting closer and closer to the truth here.

The 486SX _used_ to be a full-fledged DX with the FPU disabled.  Whether or
not the higher yield made the SX much cheaper than the DX is proprietary (they
could tell you, but they'd have to kill you afterwards :).

However, the 486SX has been compacted and no longer includes an FPU of any
sort.

Rob
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.med
From: domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley))
Subject: Re: Smoke cigarettes -- leave early!
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:05:48 GMT

In <1992Nov23.040155.11038@engage.pko.dec.com> moroney@ramblr.enet.dec.com writes:

>In article <1992Nov23.001333.7002@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) writes...
>>In article <lh07esINN493@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Trelford Pinkerton) writes:
>>>Many people have heard the old urban legend that
>>>   "every cigarette you smoke takes N days off your life".
>>>
>>>But my question is, overlooking the flaws in the model, 
>>>what is the value of 'N'?    I.e. can we say that 365 ciggies a day
>>>takes 1 year off your life, so each cig is worth a day.  

>I once heard 8 minutes, but this is old info.

I once heard it was 6 minutes... Obviously this sort of thing can't
be measured with any degree of accuracy... just guessed..

>>I heard N = 5 minutes.  So 288 cigarettes takes a day out of your life, and
>>105408 cigarettes takes a leap year out of your life.  So, therefore, this
>>generation of cigarette smokers is lucky, because the year 2000 isn't a leap
>>year.                                                      -----------------
> ----

>Yes it is.

Indeed it is. OK smokers, now you can worry...
(Though why, I can't imagine...)

Daniel 'No I haven't got time to think up a bloody motto...' O'Malley.
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: Chuck Adams <chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov>
Subject: Re: "Microwave in Use"
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:42:16 GMT

In article <CINDY.92Nov16223033@solan10.solan.unit.no>
cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf) writes:

>
>So what would happen if you put a paper towel into one of the
>accelerators?
>
>And has anyone ever fried their intestines by standing too close
>to one?

I can't speak for Joes' operations, but around here there are very strict rules
about the operation of any acclerators when personnel are present.  The areas
accelerators are in are interlocked and can not be operated until the area is
cleared and secured.  At the energies our accelerators will operate at, there
is a very real radiation hazard both from high energy radio frequency used in
the RF accelerator and also ionizing radiation produced when high energy
particles are lost in the storage ring and any where near collision targets. 
That is one reason why all of our accelerators, boosters and storage rings are
constructed underground, to utilize the shielding/dissipating effect of a lot
of dirt and concrete.

                      Chuck Adams,  WB5WRR   (The Chuckster)
                 Not an official document of DOE, SSCL, URA or EG&G
             "I cut you three ways, man:  quick, deep and frequently"
                       Internet:  chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: New Source of ULs Located! AFU Rejoices! Death of Net Predicted!
From: derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz (Derek Tearne)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 04:50:47 GMT
Organization: Fujitsu New Zealand

In article <2293@eagle.ukc.ac.uk> dmp1@ukc.ac.uk (D.M.Procida) writes:
>
[Donor card paranoia deleted]
>
>Nothing- I repeat *nothing*- would pursuade her that this contention was
>a load of unsubtantiated rubbish.  She was rather upset by our doubting
>the voracity of her story (nothing though compared to the effect of
>my merely questioning her *other* story about the FOAA (friend of an
>aunt) who woke up to find himself in the morgue).  The good (?) thing
>is, there's more- lots more- where this came from.  Frightening. 

But this REALLY DOES HAPPEN.  There was one case of a guy who woke up
just as the surgeons were attempting an Autopsy.  Unfortunately I can't 
remember where or when that was.  There was another recent case here of 
a woman who was declared dead and then discovered to be alive in the 
morgue during a routine check.  She did in fact die several hours later.  
This occurred within the last two months in New Zealand.  It is worrying 
that the go round routinely and check to see if anyone is alive in there
though!

Derek "Strangely I can't think of an appropriate middle name" Tearne


-- 
Derek Tearne.   --   derek@nezsdc.icl.co.nz   --    Fujitsu New Zealand   -- 
Some of the more aware dinosaurs were worried about the environmental
consequences of an accident with the new Iridium enriched fusion reactor.  
"If it goes off only the cockroaches and mammals will survive..." they said.
From: judson@watserv.ucr.edu (Mike Judson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Puff lyrics
Date: 23 Nov 92 01:24:14 GMT
Reply-To: judson@watserv.ucr.edu

Can somebody post the lyrics to Puff the Magic Dragon?
Thanks

--
"It takes a big man to cry.
but it takes a bigger man to laugh at that man."
				Jack Handy


judson@watserv.ucr.edu
From: wayner@otc.otca.oz.au (Wayne Robinson)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: HP Monitor models
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:45:53 GMT
Organization: R&D, OTC Sydney, Australia

In article <9211181307.AA04079@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu>, rst@ukc.ac.uk writes:
> In article <13960@pogo.wv.tek.com> pogo write:
> >
> >In article <1992Nov12.172127.25913@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> ib09@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de (Thomas) writes:
> >>[stuff]
> >
> >Has to do with the degauss coil.  The Earth's magnetic field is enough to
> >distort either very large or very high quality color displays.  When I sold
> >home electronics as a summer job one year, our 30 inch color TV's had a
> >small switch in the back for Northern or Southern hemispheres.  
> 

I had to send a Communications Signal Analyser back to the local branch of 
the supplier to have the monitor adjusted (ridiculously high quality, 8 inch). 
It arrived, having been calibrated in the US, with filthy purity problems,
and T*ktronics blamed the Earth's mag field in the repair report.

> 
> >Reality is often stranger than fiction!
> Reality? What's that?
Something that only happens to other people.


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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: bwatson@nyx.cs.du.edu (bruce watson)
Subject: Re: Water Tower Suicide.
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 19:45:10 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.211253.8771@ac.dal.ca> egilmour@ac.dal.ca writes:
>This is a story of a bizarre incident of suicide that I read about in the paper
>about two years ago that happened in a small town near mine.
>
>A man was found to be missing when he failed to show up at his best friends
>wedding at which he was supposed to be the best man.  The wedding went on 
>without him but when he failed to show up for days afterward he was 
>reported as a missing person to the police.  
>
>About six months later, people in this small town were beginning to 
>feel ill and the illness was mainly linked to the water.  Workers went
>up to the water tower in the middle of the town to see if somehow the tower
>was responsible for the unpure water.  When they looked inside the tower, they 
>found a badly decomposed body that proved to have been inside the tower
>for about six months, and was the man that had gone missing earlier.
>
>It is reported that when this was made public, practically everyone in 
>the town suffered serious bouts of vomiting.
>
>I actually read about this story in my newspaper and heard about it on
>the radio.  Really!

There is a well in London, England which the residents said the
water had an interesting taste. Recently, it was discovered that
the underground stream went under a nearby cemetary.

--
Bruce Watson  wats@nyx.cs.du.edu  Toy Cows, Toy Cows in Africa, Toy Cows
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Soldiers breaking wind (Was Re: Soldiers breaking step across bridge)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:47:54 GMT

michaet@hubcap.clemson.edu (michael dale townsend) writes:
: 
: You've probably never seen our band march, then.   :->|-  (diode
: smiley!)
: 
: Anyway, however you explain it, the bridge was shaking.

Certainly, it can shake. But shaking generally does not destroy bridges.
A heavy truck will probably shake it just as hard as your whole marching
band. It is oscillations, of ever increasing amplitude, that destroys 
bridges.

Bill

Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,sci.med
From: dag@col.hp.com (David Geiser)
Subject: Re: Smoke cigarettes -- leave early!
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:42:00 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

> Many people have heard the old urban legend that
>    "every cigarette you smoke takes N days off your life".

This saying may contribute to many young people starting to
smoke.  After all, when you're 10-16, who cares if you lose your
78th year of life?

This kind of muddled thinking is as stupid as thinking of HIV+
and AIDS as two different things, another disservice that 
Those-In-Charge-Of-Naming-Things have done.
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