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From: pg@sanitas.stortek.com (Paul Gilmartin)
Subject: Re: Fixed case file names.
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:38:31 GMT

Jean Bedard (ADMIN@VM1.ULAVAL.CA) wrote:

: Yeah, but PIPE is a bit tricky: if you PIPE ERASE 83D99022 NNReader A
: it will check if such a file with mixed cased identifier exists; if it does
: not find one, then it will try with 83D99022 NNREADER A (all in upcase).

Ouch!  I strongly disapprove!  The CMS file system has a well-established
convention for case handling of fileids.  Namely, if I say,

	address command 'WHATEVER FileName FileType FILEMODE',

the case of the fileid is taken to be whatever I typed; if I say instead,

	address CMS     'WHATEVER FileName FileType FileMode',

(or type the command on the command line) the Command Search Function
converts the fileid to upper case.  Programmers know this convention
well; they expect this behavior.  I'd have been astonished (or very
angry, depending on the extent of the damage) if I had discovered this
by accident.  (It's not practical to R every word of every FM.)

PIPE would do well to recognize the virtue of consistency, and fall
in step with the rest of CMS.

: So beware.

Amen.
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:08:33 EDT
From:         TREY@IBMH1.ORL.MMC.COM
Subject:      VM Client/Server
Comments: To: VM-UTIL@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU

Does anyone know of any programs/utilities to use VM (SQL/DS) as a
server for PC clients?


Trey Bowman
Martin Marietta Information Systems
P.O. Box 590385  MP 1714
Orlando, Florida  32859-0385
Voice:(407)356-4965    Fax:(407)356-7298
OV/VM: TREY at MMDSH   Internet: TREY@IBMH1.ORL.MMC.COM
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 15:15:15 PDT
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From:         Melvin Klassen <KLASSEN@UVVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Looking for cmsdef type module

"(The Rocket Scientist)" <fusion@MATT.KSU.KSU.EDU> writes:
>I have a file called CMSDEF MODULE that allows you to change your "Ready;"
>message to whatever you want.  It also has an option to have the amount of
>memory used after certain commands are issued to be displayed after the ready;
>message. I am looking for a file that will display the amount of CPU time used
>after each command.

I don't have such a tool, but it should be easy to write,
because all the necessary "hooks" are present, i.e.,
just define a CMS "nucleus-extension" with the 'ENDCMD' option,
and CMS will automatically invoke it during end-of-command processing.
(It is this end-of-command processing which also writes the "Ready;" message.)
From: siperas@HSI.COM ((Steve Siperas))
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: Re: Tape Functions
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:10:00 GMT
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Hi steve

Thanks - Is there a index as to which file TAPEMAP is on ?

steve
From: COURCOUL@VMTECQRO.BITNET (Juan M. Courcoul)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: Which goes first: the disk exec or the saved segment ?
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:29:10 GMT
Organization: Instituto Tecnologico de Monterrey, Campus Queretaro
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This is probably a trivial question, but I really can't find the answer
in the books....

Suppose I have a XEDIT macro, let's call it ABC XEDIT, which is quite
huge and is very frequently run by my users. It doesn't quite fit in the
default CMSINST saved segment, so I have to create another DCSS to stuff
it into. In order to avoid overlapping other frequently used segments
such as SQLDBA's, Fortran's, etc., I have to set it up a bit over the 8M
line (segments 138 to 143).

Now, I have a small group of users who log in with 10M accounts (the
CAD/CAM folks). Naturally, these users overlap the shared segment and
cannot use the code stored there.

The question is: can I leave a copy of the XEDIT macro on one of the system
disks so the 10M users can run it in their private storage, without causing
the same thing to happen to the smaller users, who will (presumably) use
the copy in shared storage ? In other words, if an account has access to
both the shared segment as well as the disk-based exec, which gets chosen ?

Thanks in advance,

Juan
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:30:51 EST
From:         Bill Alexander <ALEX@NKI.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: VM Client/Server
              9 Oct 1992 13:08:33 EDT from <TREY@IBMH1.ORL.MMC.COM>

On Fri, 9 Oct 1992 13:08:33 EDT <TREY@IBMH1.ORL.MMC.COM> said:
>Does anyone know of any programs/utilities to use VM (SQL/DS) as a
>server for PC clients?
>
I'm not sure what you have in mind, but we're currently evaluating 3 PC
application development systems that can access data in SQL/DS:
Nomad (Must Software), Focus (Information Builders) and SQL Windows (Gupta).
The first two products will allegedly work for PCs either LANed or coaxed to
the mainframe; Gupta requires a LAN server in between.  If you need more
info on any of these you can contact me directly.

*****************************************************
* Bill Alexander                                    *
* Nathan Kline Institute for Psychiatric Research   *
* Orangeburg, NY                    ALEX@NKI.BITNET *
*****************************************************
From: ADMIN@VM1.ULAVAL.CA (Jean Bedard)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: ".bitnet" problem
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:04:18 GMT
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I have a problem with BITNET addressing. I have designed RiceMail and
MAILER so that MAILER accepts either LAVALVM1 or vm1.ulaval.ca as being
the 'local' system.

Now I thought that when we send mail with my BITNET (ADMIN@LAVALVM1)
address and MAILER decides it goes to our SMTP machine, a ".bitnet"
suffix was appended automatically to the node name, since I've received
most "BITNET" mail item with this appearance. Now it seems I'm wrong,
and of course people on the Internet can't REPLY to us directly.

Is there any parameter I must put in MAILER, TCP/IP's SMTP or the outside
UNIX mail machine that processes the '.ulaval.ca' mail?

I don't want to append ".bitnet" right at the MAIL stage, because I want
the BITNET mail (through RSCS) to go unmodified.

Since many utility programs are involved, I thought better to write to
this list instead of, say, the MAILER or TCP/IP lists.


Jean Bedard, C.T.I., Universite Laval, Quebec, Canada
Resp. VM/CMS, NetNorth, Listserv     Bitnet:   ADMIN AT LAVALVM1
(418) 656-3632                       Internet: admin@vm1.ulaval.ca
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 09:18:54 CDT
From:         Dave Ulrick <A01DGU1@NIUCS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: X/Y/Zmodem protocols for a VM/CMS ?

Concerning Kermit, I would second the motion that you'd want to make sure
that you have the latest and greatest versions on both ends of your comm
line.  Older Kermits only support a maximum packet length of 94 bytes,
whereas Kermit for the last few years has supported something called
"Sliding Windows", which is supposed to increase file transfer speed
considerably (and is *not* a new graphical user interface :-)).  Try
setting the sending and/or receiving packet size to 2000 bytes, and
see what happens.  Unfortunately, the versions of Kermit we have on our
mainframe don't support Sliding Windows (as far as I know), so the speed
I usually experience isn't all that great, but that's because of the short
packet lengths, not any inherent flaw in the Kermit protocol.

Also, it *is* possible to transfer binary files with Kermit.  You'll need
to enter a command on the *sending* Kermit to set the file type to binary.
On at least MS-Kermit and Kermit-TSO the command is "SET FILE TYPE BINARY".
Having downloaded several binary files from our MVS system to my PC in
the last few days, I can affirm that it is quite possible to transfer
binary files with Kermit!

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Dave Ulrick                         Bitnet:    A01DGU1@NIU    (MVS/XA)
Northern Illinois University                   A01DGU1@NIUCS  (VM/SP)
DeKalb, IL, USA                     Internet:  a01dgu1@vm.niu.edu
From: FJH@SRU.BITNET (Fran Hensler)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: Re: NAMES command replacement
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:28:54 GMT
Organization: Slippery Rock University - Computer Center
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On Tue, 13 Oct 1992 12:00:30 EDT Katherine Faella said:
>I believe that I saw a replacement for the NAMES command to handle
>to node names longer than 8 characters.  Alas, I am unable to remember
>where I saw it or locate it anywhere.  Is this a dream?  Can anyone
>help me?
>
Send e-mail to LISTSERV@BYUVM with the first line:
get lname package byustuff
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:23:20 EDT
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From:         Eric Peterson <EPETERSO@ALBNERIC.BITNET>
Subject:      Mixed case file names.

     If you have the IPF product, you can issue a FLIST command (as
opposed to FILELIST) and then you can edit, erase, or whatever.
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:28:18 EDT
From:         Fran Hensler <FJH@SRU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Mixed case file names.
              6 Oct 1992 21:00:07 GMT from <JOEUSER@NUACVM.ACNS.NWU.EDU>

On Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:00:07 GMT (T. Stoodt) said:
>    I'm testing the NNR/VM client, and it puts a file with a
>mixed case name on my A disk.  Can someone jog my memory as to how
>I deal with these creatures?  How do I erase, edit, pipe em?
>
Use REXX:

/* */
Address Command 'ERASE MiXeD CaSe A'
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 13:10:40 EDT
From: Jeff Boyd <BOYDJ@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: Re: How to pack large files?


I second the VMARC recommendation.  I make heavy use of it, and have nothing
but praise for it.


jeff
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Date:         Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:09:00 EDT
From:         "John F. Chandler" <PEPMNT@CFAAMP.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: X/Y/Zmodem protocols for a VM/CMS ?

> Kermit is very slow

Slow compared to what?  It obviously cannot go faster than the
communication line (aside from the modest compression due to run-length
encoding), but 90% efficiency is routine.  If you are getting
substantially less than that, you need to look carefully at the
parameter settings you use.

> my implementation doesn't work on binary files.

Then again, perhaps you are simply using an obsolete version of Kermit
at one end or the other.  It is very easy to get the latest (from
KERMSRV@CUVMB).

> Is there a X/Y/Zmodem implementation available on FTP or a LISTSERV ?

Not for CMS (nor any other IBM mainframe system).  Never will be.  For
the same reason, there will never be "sliding windows" support in IBM
mainframe Kermits -- the I/O architecture is incompatible.
                                       John
From: TREY@IBMH1.ORL.MMC.COM
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Subject: re: NAMES command replacement
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:44:03 GMT
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>I believe that I saw a replacement for the NAMES command to handle
>to node names longer than 8 characters.  Alas, I am unable to remember
>where I saw it or locate it anywhere.  Is this a dream?  Can anyone
>help me?
Katherine,
You do not need a replacement for the NAMES command to handle node names
longer than 8 characters.  Use the optional Tag: and type NODE. Then
enter the long.node.name as the Value: for the corresponding tag.

Trey Bowman
Martin Marietta Information Systems
P.O. Box 590385  MP 1714
Orlando, Florida  32859-0385
Voice:(407)356-4965    Fax:(407)356-7298
OV/VM: TREY at MMDSH   Internet: TREY@IBMH1.ORL.MMC.COM
From: MAINT@CLVM.BITNET (Richard Seifert, Jr.)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: Finding filemode of a file
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:46:44 GMT
Organization: Clarkson University
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     I am looking for a utility that when invoked such as
FINDMODE filen filet
will return the first filemode in the search order where the file occurs.
Or, the only filemode, if the file only exists on one minidisk.  Any such
luck?  Any help will be appreciated.

Rich
From: UNCDWC@UNCVM1.BITNET (Doug Cutler)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: Re: limdep
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:18:22 GMT
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   We have had no end of trouble with LIMDEP under CMS, we are supossed to
have all the lastest fixes but it still doesn't work right for our one user.
I think we ended up with a beta MVS but don't know is that is any better.
  Sorry this isn't much help, if you get it to work please let me know.


  Doug. Cutler                       Office of Information Technology,
  VM Systems Programmer              University of North Carolina.
From: KMF@URIACC.URI.EDU (Katherine Faella)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: NAMES command replacement
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:00:30 GMT
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I believe that I saw a replacement for the NAMES command to handle
to node names longer than 8 characters.  Alas, I am unable to remember
where I saw it or locate it anywhere.  Is this a dream?  Can anyone
help me?

Katherine Faella                 Bitnet:   KMF@URIACC
Academic Computer Center         Internet: KMF@URIACC.URI.EDU
University of Rhode Island
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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:40:20 EDT
From:         "Richard Seifert, Jr." <MAINT@CLVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Mixed case file names.
              7 Oct 1992 13:34:38 EDT from <TREY@IBMH1.ORL.MMC.COM>

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:34:38 EDT <TREY@IBMH1.ORL.MMC.COM> said:
>>>     If you have the IPF product, you can issue a FLIST command (as
>>>opposed to FILELIST) and then you can edit, erase, or whatever.
>>
>>Except IBM broke either CMS or FLIST at some point.  This fails on our
>>VM/XA 2.1, CMS 5.6, IPF/XA combination.
>
>Dennis,
>I really doubt, IBM broke it.  A systems/application programmer at your
>site probably "broke" it on purpose; As an attempt to keep the uninformed
>user out of trouble.
>
     But what are the chances that the same thing wuold be happening on our
system, also?  The versions are the same as Dennis'.  Both Xedit and erase
fail.

     After reading more of the mail after the above message, I figure that it
probably is the error that was mentioned in the later mail.  Just shows that
there is indeed an error in IPF or CMS.

Rich

>Trey Bowman
>Martin Marietta Information Systems
>P.O. Box 590385  MP 1714
>Orlando, Florida  32859-0385
>Voice:(407)356-4965    Fax:(407)356-7298
>OV/VM: TREY at MMDSH   Internet: TREY@IBMH1.ORL.MMC.COM


Richard Seifert, Jr                    BITNET---MAINT@CLVM
Systems Programmer/Postmaster/NAd      INTERNET-MAINT@CLVM.CLARKSON.EDU
Educational Resources Center
Clarkson University
From: TURGUT@FRORS12.BITNET (Turgut Kalfaoglu)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: New (Vers. 1.3) SF EXEC stored.
Date: 14 Oct 92 12:38:35 GMT
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Comments: cc: Peter Sylvester <GRZ027@DBNGMD21.BITNET>

I just sent an update to SF EXEC, the replacement for VM/SP 5's
CMS SENDFILE to LISTSERV@TREARN. The plusses are:

  + it allows domain addresses. It XXENCODEs the file before sending
    to domain addresses, in numbered, commented pieces,

  + it allows wildcards in filenames. More than one file can be
    sent at once,

  + it is coupled with MM EXEC, the TREARN version.  If you want
    to send a file to someone you are talking to, you can just say:
       SF fn ft TO MM
    and SF learns who you are talking to from MM,

  + It explains errors in a user-friendly way,

  + Uses system's CMS SENDFILE for the actual delivery for compatibility.

The utilities mentioned are available from listserv@trearn by using
the GET fn ft command.

Note: I owe the idea of XXENCODE with SENDFILE to Peter Sylvester,
      and the XXENCODEing code to Philip David Howard. I just
      combined the two :)
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:16:38 EST
From:         Paul Russell <PRUSSELL@IUBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: How to pack large files?
              8 Oct 1992 13:20:47 EST from <KMITRA@CCVM.WCUPA.EDU>

There is a VMARC utility on the VM Workshop tape.  If you don't have
access to the tape, I believe that you can get it via ftp from ksuvm,
but someone else will have to provides details on how to do that.
------------------------------------------------------------------------
On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:20:47 EST kmitra said:
>Hi - Does anyone know how to pack large files so that they do not use up
>large amount of space. Kind of like pkzip.exe on the PC's.  I am working
>on VM/CMS.  Thanx
>                                Koushik
From: TKSSTEVE@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU (Steven P. Roder)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: Re: AXXESS
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:01:40 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo
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On Thu, 8 Oct 1992 10:38:47 EDT Joseph Ryan said:
>On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:37:00 EDT Richard Varenas said:
>>Does anyone have a version of the AXXESS command that works under CMS 8
>>ESA 1.1? The source code would be much appreciated. Thanks.
>What is AXXESS?

If this is a way to see mode 0 files on the disk when in read mode, CMS 8
has a "utility" for doing this, called ACCESSM0.  It is installed on MAINT's
193, and must be made available by the Systems programmer.  Then, you can
access a disk using the mode0 option.  If you do not have access to the
ACCESSM0 module, then your site did not implement this feature.

If the function of AXXESS has nothing to do with mode0 files on R/O disks,
then answer JRYAN's question.


Steve Roder
(tkssteve@ubvm.bitnet | tkssteve@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu | (716)645-3564
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:37:47 CST
From:         Jim Colten <IJIM@UMINN1.BITNET>
Subject:      POP Mail for CMS

Anyone out there have POP Mail code for CMS.  I have heard about a SERVER but
do not know where it is found.  Would be even more interested in a CLIENT.

Jim Colten
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From: SYSDMCKE@VM.UWP.EDU
Subject: Re: Fixed case file names.
Organization: UW-Parkside
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:40:27 GMT

Hello,
  Both NNR and OfficeVision/VM use mixed case file names for certain files.
Usually these files will cause a loss of some important information or critical
 settings for the software package to which it belongs.
** That was the warning ! **
** Here is how to look/change/delete/copy them **
 
All you have to remember is that when coding a REXX program or any other to
run against these files, the file name MUST BE in the exact case format !!!
 
ie.
83D99022 NNReader A0
 
If I wanted to erase this, I would edit a file called MIXERASE EXEC A
and the only line neccesary would be :
 
ERASE 83D99022 NNReader A
 
The same goes for copy;
 
COPY 83D99022 NNReader A = READABLE =
 
REXX/PIPES/EXEC2 all follow the same idea !
 
 
I hope this helps !
Doug McKeown
 
ps: Yes, you can create files noone else can edit or read !! Unless of course
    they want to write a 4 line exec !
+======+==================+======================+          ___
|Douglas M. McKeown       | DMCKEOWN@VM.UWP.EDU  | Amiga   //// | VM/ESA
|                         | ------------------   |  C=    ////  |
|Systems Programmer       | 1-414-595-2482       |___    ////   | Big Blue
|University of Wisconsin  |       fax            | \\\  ////    |   M-F
|-- Parkside --           | 1-414-595-2630       |  \\\////     | 8:00-4:30
+======+==================+======================+   XXXX/
From: SPONSELL@AKRONVM.BITNET (Gary Sponseller)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: Re: Tape Functions
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:56:31 GMT
Organization: Academic User Services, The University of Akron
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On Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:25:46 EDT (Steve Siperas) said:
>Hi
>
>I was wondering is there a way in VM to
>
>1) Copy 1 tape to another tape without specifying all the files on the
>   tape - right now I'm using a combination of FILEDEF and MOVEFILE
>   and have to define every file on the tape
>
>2) IS there a VM function that will scan a tape and output file attributes
>   i.e. file blocksize and # block, # files on tape, # tape marks on tape

If you have the latest SAS system (v6.07), you can copy with PROC TAPECOPY
and map with PROC TAPELABEL.
From: fusion@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (The Rocket Scientist)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.vm-util
Subject: Looking for cmsdef type module
Date: 9 Oct 1992 08:24:44 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I have a file called CMSDEF MODULE that allows you to change your
ready; message to whatever you want.  It also has an option to
have the amount of memory used after certain commands are issued
to be displayed after the ready; message.  I am looking for a
file that will display the amount of CPU time used after each
command.  I've got an EXEC that will do this, but it is not
automatic; i.e., i have to type in something like TIMEIT [command]
instead of just executing the command normally and having the
ready prompt say something like: ready; -.23 CPU, or something like
that.  That is what I want.  If a file that will do that exists,
I would appreciate a copy of it!!  Thanks!

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Date:         Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:15:00 EDT
From:         Bob Fowles 814-865-4774 <RBF@PSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: What's A Good FTP Source For VM Utils Such As GREP?

Another non-FTP source is Waterloo C. Part of that product is a GREP module.
   Bob Fowles, Center for Academic Computing, Penn State
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:34:38 EDT
From:         TREY@IBMH1.ORL.MMC.COM
Subject:      Re: Mixed case file names.
Comments: To: VM-UTIL@UCF1VM.CC.UCF.EDU

>>     If you have the IPF product, you can issue a FLIST command (as
>>opposed to FILELIST) and then you can edit, erase, or whatever.
>
>Except IBM broke either CMS or FLIST at some point.  This fails on our
>VM/XA 2.1, CMS 5.6, IPF/XA combination.

Dennis,
I really doubt, IBM broke it.  A systems/application programmer at your
site probably "broke" it on purpose; As an attempt to keep the uninformed
user out of trouble.

Trey Bowman
Martin Marietta Information Systems
P.O. Box 590385  MP 1714
Orlando, Florida  32859-0385
Voice:(407)356-4965    Fax:(407)356-7298
OV/VM: TREY at MMDSH   Internet: TREY@IBMH1.ORL.MMC.COM