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From: mucm000@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Fred Seaton)
Subject: Re: Question about log out drive
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:16:59 GMT

In article <dhoward.148.0@novell.com> dhoward@novell.com (Dirk W. Howard) writes:
>In article <1b58k1INNoc4@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> bob_groendyke@macgate.csuchico.edu (Bob Groendyke) writes:
>>From: bob_groendyke@macgate.csuchico.edu (Bob Groendyke)
>>Subject: Re: Question about log out drive
>>Date: 10 Oct 92 00:37:21 GMT
>>mccau002@acpub.duke.edu (Gary McCauley)
>>
>>Dirk's lo.bat suggestion works but if you just put this in \public,
>>you'll get a message after the user is logged out, something like:
>>
>>Invalid drive: Z:\public\lo.bat
>>
>>this is because the batch file was executed on Z (a search drive). DOS
>>objects to losing the drive before it finishes with the program. So if
>>the message bothers you, use 2 batch files, 1 in \public (in the search
>>path) that contains:
>>f:
>>lo.bat
>>
>>and another batch file named lo.bat (or whatever) in f:\login that
>>contains just:
>>logout    (calling the .exe)
>>
>>this way the batch file you execute is on F:, and F stays around after
>>the user is logged out, which makes DOS happy.
>>
>>Course you could just have a search path to F:\login too I guess, and use
>>1 batch file, or not worry about it at all...
>>
>>Bob Groendyke
>>bob_groendyke@macgate.csuchico.edu
>
>
>You will only get the above error message if you placed a CR/LF after the 
>LOGOUT command.  It is VERY important that you enter the batch file 
>EXACTLY.  Use :
>
>COPY CON LO.BAT
>ECHO OFF
>F:
>LOGOUT^Z
>
>
>Instead of :
>
>COPY CON LO.BAT
>ECHO OFF
>F:
>LOGOUT
>^Z
>
>The first one will work correctly.  The second one produces the error 
>mentioned above.
>
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>Dirk W. Howard              These are my personal opinions.  No one else 
>Novell Technical Support    in their right mind would claim them.
>dhoward@novell.com
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Of course, there is nothing more annoying than changing the way a
documented command is supposed to work, so PLEASE, check for parameters
on the LOGOUT.BAT command line, and if there are any, process them.
(Remember, LOGOUT <name> is only supposed to logout from the specified
servers, not ALL servers, as the LOGOUT.BAT would do if it didn't
process parameters.

Fred Seaton
Western Illinois University

Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kellmeye@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (kellmeyer steven l)
Subject: Re: Leak in Novell
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 02:05:48 GMT

srinivas@cse.iitb.ernet.in (Srinivas V) writes:

>I have been folllowing the discussions's on the leak in novell and also as
>to what the knock and hack does.  Providing security by hiding information or
>the algorithm from the user is no solution. Some day or the other someone is
>going to hack.  Data encryption seems to be the only solution.
>I feel that the public key encryption should be implemented. The server will 
>publicize a key and all nodes communicating with the server will encrypt using
>the key. Only the server will be able to decrypt the message as only the server
>has both the keys. Similarly at the login time each node/client should be able
>to generate a similar set of keys and publicize one of them. All the data 
>coming to the client/node will be encrypted using the key publicised by the 
>client. Only the client will be able to decrypt the data as it has both the 
>keys. No hacker would be able to breakin. Basically the keys would be a 
>set of large prime numbers.   Hope somebody from novell is listening!.

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Anyone who is interested in getting this sort of public key encryption
software for e-mail and the like should check out sci.crypt.  Specifically,
ask about a free piece of FTP-able software called PGP 2.0
It is based on the RSA algorithm, is very well-designed, and does precisely
what is described in this post.  Now if Novell could just license the
code ....

Steve Kellmeyer
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From: nieland_t@kahuna.asc-yf.wpafb.af.mil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Netware DA been updated?
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:54:43 EST
Organization: USAF ASC/YF, WPAFB, Dayton, OH

Has an update to the NOVELL NW4Mac Netware DA been released that fixes the 
problem that prevents Mac users from accessing printer queues that have 
parenthesis in their names?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: d88-jwa@byse.nada.kth.se (Jon Wtte)
Subject: Re: Novell API for Macintosh?
Originator: d88-jwa@byse.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Distribution: comp
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:19:02 GMT

(Rick Rutledge) writes:

   >Okay, since noone here gave any good ideas on mac<->windows
   >connectivity, I now narrow my scope. Is there an API for
   >the Novell network services for the Mac.

   Well, "Novell network services for the Mac." consists largely of the Apple
   Filing Protocol, since, for your Macs to access the Novell server, the

I couldn't care less about filing, since the mac file system
handles that part completely transparently.

   There do exist hooks, certainly mapped to each other somewhere between
   AFP.NLM and the NCP (NetWare Core Protocol) for such things as messages,
   since you can send NetWare broadcast messages to a Mac Workstation from a

This is more like it. I also want to send small messages, but not
to users; to other processes (programs, applications, whatever)

Are they documented? How do I get documentation? Ideally both for
Windows and Macintosh.

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From: shall@fawlty8.eng.monash.edu.au (Dr SC Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell,comp.os.os2.networking
Subject: 32-bit version of Netware Requester for OS/2?
Date: 16 Oct 92 08:14:48 GMT
Organization: Monash University

I recently got the Netware Developers' Kit for OS/2, in order to do
some IPX programming.  Unfortunately, the IPX DLL is written in 16 bit
code.  This is really _painful_ if your application is in 32-bit code
(eg. created using the IBM C Set/2 compiler).  Does anyone out there
know if or when a 32-bit version of the OS/2 Netware requester will be
available?  Thanks in advance.


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From: mcollins@db.novell.com (Marty Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: SCO TCP version, how to?
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:28:35 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

$davee@sasb.byu.edu (Dave Edmunds - MIS Hardware) writes:
: I believe mcollins from NOVELL said I need TCP v1.2.  How do I check that?  
: I went through the sysadmsh and no where does it give version #.  The guy 
: who installed it, did not write down version #s.  Is there a file size I 
: need to check.

You need to run swconfig from the shell prompt and this will show you
the currently installed products and their respective versions.

: 
: Oh yeah, I can ping fine.
: 
: Please help!
: 
: TIA.
: 
: -Dave

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   mcollins@novell.com 
   1-800-NETWARE
From: karafiat@bmwf1f.bmwf.gv.at
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: CD-ROM mount as logical drive NW 3.11
Date: 16 Oct 92 11:21:30 GMT
Organization: (Thomas Karafiat), BMWF, Vienna, Austria

Who knows if and how I can mount a ISO 9660, High Sierra Format CD-ROM on a 
Novell 3.11. I will access it as a logical drive on the Client.

My Hardware  Adaptec 1542B SCSI Controller
             1 Seagate HD 1 GB (ok)
             2 DAT Tape Drives (ok)
             2 MO Drives (ok)
             1 DEC SCSI CD-ROM Drive (not accessible under NW 3.11?)

thanks 
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From: jap@acsu.buffalo.edu (James A. Perreault)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Novell Menu problem
Date: 7 Oct 92 19:40:57 GMT
Organization: UB

Many thanx to all the people who responded.

As per all of the recommendations, I have installed and used DougMenu.  It
works fine.  It was tested to 23 users, and we had no problems.


						Jim Perreault
-- 
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so even the most brilliant participant today is nowhere near as famous as 
the guys who were doing it when all new stuff was being discovered. 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: gopstein@helix.bms.com (Rich Gopstein)
Subject: SNA printing to Novell
Organization: Bristol-Myers Squibb PRI
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:43:46 GMT


We would like to replace some of our existing IBM printers with Novell
printers.  As I understand it, we need to set up the connections
through the SAA/SNA gateway, and then dedicate an entire PC (running
the 3270 workstation program) for EACH PRINTER.  Obviously, we would
prefer not to have a bunch of dedicated PCs lying around.  Are we
misunderstanding something?  Is there another way to provide IBM
printing?  Thanks.


-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: pyrros@braindamaged.cis.udel.edu (Christos T. Pyrros)
Subject: Re: Strange ethernet address seen
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 22:41:35 GMT

In article <8OCT199211122283@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov> dweissman@amarna.gsfc.nasa.gov (WiseGuy) writes:
>Every so often, one of my remote bridges sees heavy traffic of type
>x8137 (E'Config Novell) from ethernet address 00-80-0F-76-03-5E
>to ethernet address 55-55-0F-04-03-70.
...
>Anybody have any ideas or do I just have something misconfigured?

At our sites, we require ALL Ethernet addresses to be registered with the
sysadmins.  That way, we can always track at least one end of the connection.

We have a program scour the network for unknown ethernet addresses, too,
that keeps our compliance high :-).


Chris
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: tech@crash.cts.com (Don Bontemps)
Subject: How do I stop novell snoopers?
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Distribution: na
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:16:23 PDT

Hello all you novell gurus.  I possibly have a simple question for someone to answer.  At my job, we recently connected all our in-house computers to a Novell network.  I have discovered that some unknown individual has been snooping
inside my local hard drive via the network.  I would like to know if
there is a way to prevent someone from doing this via software or whatever
means possible?  Can I disable the card, then re-enable it when I have the
need to access the network?  Any help would be greatly appreciated!
From: malc@icon.com (Malcolm Weir)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: NCOPY, SPARSE Files, Probable Operator Error(?)
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:21:01 GMT
Organization: Sanyo Icon, Irvine, Ca.

I have a query as to how/if NCOPY operates with SPARSE files.  In the
course of experimenting with NCOPY, I came across the documentation
entries which state (a) that NCOPY preserves sparse files, and (b) if
you specify the "/F" option NCOPY will "write to" sparse files -- I
assume that means make them non-sparse.

So, I tried to create a sparse file for NCOPY to play with, yet all
NCOPY would do with my creations was to complain!

A minimalist QBASIC program that creates a sparse file is:

	OPEN "sparse.fil" FOR RANDOM AS #1 LEN=4096
	FIELD #1, 4096 AS rec$
	PUT #1, 3
	CLOSE
	END

This duly creates a sparse file, reported by NDIR as having 12,288
bytes in 1 file, and 8192 bytes in 2 blocks, therefore having the
bytes from offset 4096 thru 8191 being "sparsed"

So, attempting to NCOPY the thing, with the command
	NCOPY sparse.fil TO sparse2.fil
or even
	NCOPY sparse.fil TO sparse2.fil /F

all I get is the "From ... TO ..." stuff, followed by a beep and the
oh-so-useful message "Error copying file", and the summary information
that no files were copied.

Regular DOS copy works fine (but does not of course preserve sparseness),
so the issue is not one of space availability!

Netware is version 3.11, NCOPY.EXE is dated 2/11/91.

Any suggestions as to what I'm missing???
Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: peterh@netcom.com (Peter John Harrison)
Subject: XGATE problem - "failed to login as job server..."
Summary: Running XGATE generates an error.
Keywords: CHARON XGATE SMTP MHS
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:53:05 GMT

I'm trying to set up a SMTP to MHS email gateway using XGATE and CHARON
3.4.  I've done the installation per the instructionsthat came with the
shareware XGATE program, but when I run XGATE I get the error "Failed to 
login as job server XGATE" and "Failed to login as job server XCHARON"
whan I run XCHARON.

I have run the XSETUP utility.  

Other hardware/software being used: Intel EtherExpress cards, w/ODI 
drivers and both IPX and IP (using ODIPKT) protocols running & tested
good.  NW version is 3.11.

Any help/advice you can offer would be much apreciated.
===========================================================================
Peter John Harrison
peterh@netcom.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: kca@engin.umich.edu (Jonathan Van Oast)
Subject: Re: Question about log out drive
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 16:02:20 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <5929@news.duke.edu> mccau002@acpub.duke.edu (Gary McCauley) writes:
>Is it possible to log out from your Novell net in such a way that your
>login drive is always the same, i.e., what I would like to do is assure
>users on the net that when they walk up to a net machine, they can type
>drive letter F: (or whatever we decide) and get the login prompt, F:\LOGIN,
>regardless of where the previous user of that machine logged out from.
>
>Also, while I've got your attention, anyone know where the files go00#.bat
>and restart.00# come from?
>
>reply here or to:  gmm@cemserver.mc.duke.edu
>
>Thanks,
>Gary McCauley

i am sure just about every netware user has experienced the ever
painful workstation that was logged out of (say on drive z:) and then
someone changed the drive to c: and cleared the screen.  well, here
are the work arounds we implemented:
1) rewrite logout.exe.  logout() is about the simplest netware call
   to write, and so it is just a matter of changing the drive to f:
   before you call it.
2) another program can be written (almost as easily) that will find
   the first netware drive and change to it.  the one i wrote is 
   called "findnet.exe" so, in workstation autoexec.bats, you have
   something like "findnet . . . login" rather than "f: . . . login".
   [the catch here is that findnet.exe must be on each workstation,
   so #1 is probably the best solution.]

( i THINK(?) then go00#.bat and restart.00# are leftovers from the
  ever-present dougmenu... are you using this? )
 
hope this helps..?  -jon  kca@caen.engin.umich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: pyrros@braindamaged.cis.udel.edu (Christos T. Pyrros)
Subject: Bug in PSEVER 1.22r (was Re: Problems with novell updates/patches)
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 15:43:02 GMT

In article <3291.469.uupcb@grapevine.lrk.ar.us> eric.lentz@grapevine.lrk.ar.us (Eric Lentz)  writes:
>
>PK>And one question:  What happened to pserv2.zip?  I seems to have been
>PK>removed from ftp.novell.com.
>
>
>Novell recalled it due to bugs.

No kidding!  2 of our 3 print servers, which were functioning fine for the past
month, died within the past 3 days with, "File OPEN failed on SYS:/system/
26000001/print.002" or some such, even though there is no printer #2 on
either of those servers.

We switched those servers back to version 1.22, but I'm worried about seeing
more bugs in large binary printouts (ie, with our plotters that are fed
200k-1 Mb files constantly).

We had switched to 1.22r because our newest plotter would get misplaced vectors
on printouts.  Naa, it doesn't matter if a highway is shifted over a couple
hundred feet...

When does Novell intend to have a BUG-FREE PSERVER?? Must we do **everything**
ourselves?? :-)

 
Thanks,

Chris
From: RBYAML@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com (Aengus Lawlor)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Netbios on Both 802.3 and Ethernet II
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:34:17 GMT
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <THOMASG.1033.718900225@epx.cis.umn.edu>, THOMASG@epx.cis.umn.edu
(ThomasD.Gasser) says:
>
>Hello all,
>
>I have a interesting need.  I have a Netbios based Comm server solution and
>would slowly like to convert my users from 802.3 to Ethernet_II.  I know
>that with the ODI drivers you can have both 802.3 and Ethernet_II loaded on
>a card.  Is there a way for Netbios to see both packet types?
NetBIOS doesn't care about packet types. Novells NetBIOS talks to IPX, and
IPX talks to the wire. A workstation talking E_II frames can't talk to a
station using 802.3 frames, so therefore the NetBIOS applications can't talk
betwwen workstations.

With the advent of ODI, it would be possible to write a NetBIOS that didn't
use IPX for it's transport, so that it talked directly to the wire, and could
use whatever frame type it required, but then it probably couldn't talk to
a w/s that was still running NetBIOS over IPX. (You could make your ODINETB
put IPX type frames on the wire, but then it would be duplicating at least
some code from IPXODI, which would be wasteful).

Aengus
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: andrews@msdrl.com (Richard Andrews)
Subject: NetWare for SAA updates?
Organization: Merck Research Laboratories
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 20:01:55 GMT

Have there been any updates to NetWare for SAA version 1.1 Rev A since June
1991?  If so, where can I get the patches?

-Rich
From: keith@novell.com (Keith Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: Looking for a news reader for ODI...
Date: 8 Oct 92 06:20:50 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc. San Jose, California

In article <16812@pitt.UUCP> johnr@icarus.lis.pitt.edu writes:
>
>If anyone out there knows of a good NNTP News reader for Novell's ODI
>(either FTP or Retail), I would sure appreciate the info....

You will find one on sjf-lwp.novell.com in the "lwp4dos/trumpet"
directory. The evil commercial slime within me would have you purchase
a copy of LAN WorkPlace for DOS and run the version of Trumpet that
works with our products TCP/IP stack (an approach that has many
advantages that I won't bore you with here).  Also to be found in that
directory however you will find a "self contained" version of Trumpet
that has it's own packet driving TCP/IP stack. If you run Dan Lancianis
ODIPKT software on top of the ODI driver of your choice then you will
have achieved you ODI driving, news reading goal. ODIPKT is on sjf-lwp
too, somewhere.

Trumpet is not free. It is Shareware. The author is one Peter Tattum
(details in the docs). If you like it and find yourself using it more
than twice, don't forget to pay the man.

Keith
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2180 Fortune Dr, San Jose, California 95131      Net:   keith@novell.COM
From: rick@wet.UUCP (Rick Rutledge)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
Subject: Re: PS/2 server RAM question
Date: 13 Oct 92 05:58:32 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

paulg@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul A Gunderson) writes:
>
>I upgraded the memory on an IBM PS/2 model 80 fileserver with an AMKLY
>memory expansion board.  This board has 16MB of RAM.  The PS/2 has 2MB on
>its motherboard, giving me a grand total of 18MB.
>
>The PS/2 counts all of this as it boots, but Novell 3.11 sees only 15.7MB.
>Can anyone enlighten me on this?
>
You should see your NetWare installation manual  for the exact syntax, but I
believe the command you need is

SET AUTO REGISTER MEMORY ABOVE 16 MEGABYTES

or something like that.  Otherwise, only EISA machines will automatically
register memory above 16MB.  (That .3MB is probably going to processor
caches or something.  I've not used PS/2's in ages.)

Good luck!
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: paul@ace.acadiau.ca (Paul Steele)
Subject: Re: Novell Access Server
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:29:22 GMT

>I am currently thinking of buying the Novell Access Server
>so that some of our users can run applications remotely.
>I was wondering if any of you that have such a server can
>relate to me some of thier experiences.  What I was wondering was
>is it really like running applications on a workstation
>directly connected to the network

It works, but we find it very unstable and easy to hang.  We tell our users 
to stick to reading email...

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.novell
From: stein@sionext.uio.no (Stein Onsrud)
Subject: Pmail for windows
Reply-To: Stein_Onsrud@siodata.uio.no
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 09:10:04 GMT

Does anyone out there know of any development on a windows klient for  
pmail? 


Stein Onsrud
SiO Data
Norway