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From: jfy@cis.ksu.edu (Joseph F. Young)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative,rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Star Trek story archive (weekly FAQ -- automated posting)
Followup-To: alt.startrek.creative
Date: 24 Jan 1993 11:58:21 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University, Dept. of Computing and Information Sciences
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: depot.cis.ksu.edu
Summary: Description of archive of ST stories and how to access it
Keywords: Stories, FTP, Mail Server, ST, TNG

Last updated: 18 Dec 92

------------------------------FTP--------------------------------------
I've seen many inquiries about an anonymous ftp archive for the
stories that appear in alt.startrek.creative.  As others have
mentioned, I maintain an archive on ftp.cis.ksu.edu (129.130.10.80) in
the directory /pub/alt.startrek.creative.  All files are compressed using
the ZIP format, used by INFO-ZIP's "zip" and "unzip" and PK-WARE's "pkzip"
and "pkunzip" programs, among others.
Programs, both in binary and source form, to handle this format are available
on other archive sites.
If you cannot find a program to handle ZIP files, use the
archive mail server described below.

If you find a story that I've missed, especially any of the ones that
appeared early in the life of this group or in the rec.arts.startrek.*
groups, mail it to me (jfy@cis.ksu.edu) or upload it to /pub/upload on
the archive site.

If you have any contributions to the archive, suggestions, etc. you
may also email them to me.

-----------------------------Mail--------------------------------------
For all those unfortunates who don't have Internet ftp access, I've
setup a mailserver to provide access to the archives on
ftp.cis.ksu.edu.

This mailserver can be contacted via mail one of the following
addresses:

...!rutgers!depot!mailserver  (UUCP)
mailserver@cis.ksu.edu        (Internet)

The server accepts commands given in the body of the mail messages;
help is available with the command "help".  

A listing of the files in
the story archive may be obtained by "dir -l /pub/alt.startrek.creative".

Since the story archive consists of ZIP files, they must
be uuencoded before they are sent on their way.  To specify this mode,
use the command "encode uuencode"  To retrieve the files, use the
"send" command (ex:  send /pub/alt.startrek.creative/story/tng/TheMoralsOfWar.zip

If you have a system which cannot handle ZIP files, you may use
the "unzip" filter ("encode unzip") 
which will send you the uncompressed (but not uuencoded) version of the file.

Here is an example mail message:

% Mail mailserver@cis.ksu.edu
Subject: request 
help
encode uue     
send /pub/alt.startrek.creative/story/tng/TheMoralsOfWar.zip
^D
%

Please note that this is completely experimental and is not bug free.
Questions and problems about this mailserver may be directed to
"mailserver-reply@cis.ksu.edu".



-- 
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KSU Department of Computing and Information Sciences
Manhattan, Kansas 66506  FAX: (913) 532-7353  Phone: (913) 532-6350   
Internet: jfy@cis.ksu.edu  UUCP: rutgers!depot!jfy 
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: douglas@cs.scarolina.edu (G. David Douglas Jr.)
Subject: Re: Request
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:42:30 GMT

william.johnson@um.cc.umich.edu (William Johnson) writes:

>I was wondering if someone could repost the parody involving the muppets
>and TNG.  Thankyou in advance.

>******************************************************************************
>                                                                          
>*                                                                          
> *
>* Brain and Brain, what is Brain? (Spock' Brain)                           
> *               *                                                         
>                  *                                                        
>               
>******************************************************************************

Okay, here it is -- (liked it enough to keep a copy around :-)

David Douglas -- douglas@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu

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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: 3386838@Jeff-Lab.QueensU.CA (Wes Garland)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: The Definitive STAR TREK Parody Chapter 13
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:44:48 GMT
Reply-To: 3386838@Jeff-Lab.QueensU.CA
Organization: Terminal Velocity Kingston

<ROTFL w/tears>

He Screams: More! More! More!

Cheers,
Wes

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From: cocking@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Cara Cocking)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: who can post?
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:29:54 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA


 Can anyone post a story here?  
 Are there rules for stories or any restrictions or anything?
 I have a ST:TNG parody that I wrote and thought I might post.

Cara
-- 
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cocking@csugrad.cs.vt.edu  | because if you enjoy it today 
                           | you can do it again tomorrow. 
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: millinsj@cs.aston.ac.uk (SJ MILLINGTON,,,,)
Subject: Re: The two battlestar Galactica stories
Reply-To: millinsj@cs.aston.ac.uk
Organization: Aston University (Comp Sci)
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:33:40 GMT

In article 1k6pc1INNoaa@RATTLESNAKE.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU, weed-matthew@cs.yale.edu (Matthew Weed) writes:
>In rec.arts.startrek.tech, someone asked about any "credibly written" 
>pieces about what might happen if The Enterprise met forces 
>of the Galactacan Universe.
>As I remember, there are two *very* well written stories about this,
>one somewhat religious, both of which I think the net should see.
>I do not have them, and if someone does, could you either mail them to me, or repost them directly.
>Thanks.
>
>
>-- Having read the two BG/TNG stories, I would say that the first one is worth
a look, though not true to the BG characters.  THe follow up was just plain embarassing
I think this is one crossover which shouldn't have been done. (speaking as a BG fan
of old). THe two sets of characters merge as well as oil and water (sorry, couldn't
think of a more witty analogy).
However I no longer have copies of either, and all views held are purely the
result of a soon-to-be-drunk postgraduate.  Who knows...someone out there may`
have enjoyed the stories........
Sam
(not the quantum physicist)
>"The nation behaves well if it treats the natural resources as assets 
>which it must turn over to the next generation, increased and not 
>impaired in valued."  --President Theodore Roosevelt
>Matthew Weed	weed-matthew@suned.zoo.cs.yale.edu




Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!waden@cactus.org (Wade Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: ST-TNG Teasers
Date: 28 Jan 1993 17:48:29 -0600
Organization: The SMOF-BBS: Science Fiction Online Since 1985 [512-467-7317]
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

HELP.  I'm writing a ST-TNG episode/script and need info on the "teasers"
before the main episode.  I can't seem to determine:

Can the teaser show something (or parts thereof) something that happens
later in the episode; or

Is it always something happening first; or

Does the teaser ever contain the "Captains Log".

I can't seem to get this figured out even though I watch every pm.

It SEEMS like the Captains log (main sequence" usually explains what
was going on in the teaser, partially.  

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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: billma@utoday.com (Bill Mallon)
Subject: Re: Troi's rank
Reply-To: billma@utoday.com (Bill Mallon)
Organization: CMP Publications, Inc., Manhasset NY
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 13:40:05 GMT
Keywords: rank uniform

> In article <1993Jan25.193837.824@ab.wvnet.edu> mccartney_g@ab.wvnet.edu 
writes:
> >In article 
<935721205706@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk>,BECKSA@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090 
> writes:
> >According to the official "Star Trek: The Next Generation Officer's Manual",
> >ship counselors (most of which are Betazoid) are given the rank of Lt.
> >Commander.  I believe that this rank is honorary and somewhat permanent. 
> >In other words, I do not think that it would be possible for ship counselors to
> >promoted to higher ranks, such as commander or captain, under normal
> >circumstances.  The blue color of the uniform probably denotes a medical
> >position, although blue also stands for support personel. 

Blue uniforms are Sciences and Medical. Support wear mustard.
(Hmmm, that could be profound. "Support wear mustard....")

Let's leave Creative to creatives, huh?

"I am endeavoring, ma'am, to construct a mnemonic memory circuit, using stone knives and bearskins." --Spock
Humble Typesetter
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: as401046@orion.yorku.ca
Subject: Re: The two battlestar Galactica stories
Organization: York University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:14:44 GMT

In article <1k6pc1INNoaa@RATTLESNAKE.ZOO2.CS.YALE.EDU>, weed-matthew@cs.yale.edu (Matthew Weed) writes:
> In rec.arts.startrek.tech, someone asked about any "credibly written" 
> pieces about what might happen if The Enterprise met forces 
> of the Galactacan Universe.
> As I remember, there are two *very* well written stories about this,
> one somewhat religious, both of which I think the net should see.
> I do not have them, and if someone does, could you either mail them to me, or repost them directly.
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> -- 
> "The nation behaves well if it treats the natural resources as assets 
> which it must turn over to the next generation, increased and not 
> impaired in valued."  --President Theodore Roosevelt
> Matthew Weed	weed-matthew@suned.zoo.cs.yale.edu

I have one of those stories......I think...."A Chance Meeting"...I also
believe it came from this newsgroup some time ago......maybe it can be
reposted for ya.......
 
Alan
From: 9227792@ul.ie
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Wanted:The Nude Generation.
Date: 21 Jan 93 00:16:40 GMT
Organization: University of Limerick, Ireland



 Could someone out there please send me
 The Nude Generation ?? 
 I saw it here a few weeks ago but then it 
 was erased !!!
 Mail me at 9227792@ul.ie
 Much appreciated.


     Rick M
     9227792@ul.ie
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:44:33 EST
From: Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Rush and Trek
 <C16B4x.Czr@news.iastate.edu>

In article <C16B4x.Czr@news.iastate.edu>, barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett)
says:

>   The NCC-1701 original?  Rush would praise the crew for being God-
>believing Christians.  The NCC-1701-D?  Rush would blast Picard and
>everybody else for being agnostics with no Judeo-Christian-centered
>moral or ethical values whatsoever.


He said Rush Limbaugh, not Pat Buchanan.  Get your cliches straight.
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!waden@cactus.org (Wade Nelson)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Rush and Trek - possible name for episode
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:50:27 -0600
Organization: The SMOF-BBS: Science Fiction Online Since 1985 [512-467-7317]
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

"The most dangerous MOUTH in the universe"

"Me?  I'm just a harmless big, fat-ass, hair-ball"

Beverly could surgically reduce the size of his mouth"

Worf could let his phaser "slip" and just declare the whole thing to 
be an accident in the name of peace and tolerance.

Rush is the only guy who showed up in S. Central LA with a videocamera
and 5 gallons of Exxon Super Supreme.  (Offered 20 people $100 to become
instant "stars".

Rush is the kind of guy that makes one re-think the wisdom of the Prime
Directive   -- Picard

That guys a jerk - Wesley.

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From: cs_d637@king.ac.uk (Paul Neve)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: PAUL NEVE
Date: 21 Jan 1993 15:02:49 GMT
Organization: Kingston University
NNTP-Posting-Host: ceres.kingston.ac.uk
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Joe Muscat the Sad One (cluster@fs1.mcc.ac.uk) wrote:
: Tried to telnet to kingston (failed)...
: Accessed loligo - no one around.
: Don't know login ID or password to access FTP (Clarkstown uni USA).
  
[...etc ... lots of REALLY irrelevent stuff]

Please note: I disassociate myself from this! This was written by a
COMPLETE net novice who had no idea how to contact me. Rest assured
he will be chastised thoroughly so please don't flame me, it's not
my fault!

While I'm here... DwarfTrek Part III should be ready within the next
fortnight, assuming that anyone's remotely interested...

Email (INTERNET): cs_d637@ceres.king.ac.uk
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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re; uniforms
From: jpurcell@vax1.umkc.edu
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:14:02 CST
Organization: University of Missouri - Kansas City
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax1.umkc.edu

Then what is the insignia for an admiral's collar?

JP



Reply to me, as I don't log on iften

Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: Catherine.Collingwood@launchpad.unc.edu (Catherine Collingwood)
Subject: for the last time! (was Re: Troi's rank)
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 03:00:22 GMT

Troi is a lieutenant commander, and the rank is NOT honorary.  She is not a
civilian.  She is a full-fledged member of Starfleet although she is not in
the Chain of Command per se.
My evidence:

In "Encounter at Farpoint," "Future Imperfect," and "Chain of Command" she
wore a blue (medical/science) UNIFORM with the markings of Lt. Cmdr.  No
honorary rankee is entitled to do such. (source: "The Tears of the Singers"
TOS novel by Melinda Snodgrass.  An honorary lieutenant in that book does
not wear a uniform.)

"Disaster" speaks for itself.  Honorary ranks are never in the chain of
command; that's common military practice today.  Troi is simply not in
the higer echelons of the chain on the Enterprise.

In "The Child" if you look closely at the visual records Crusher displays
of Ian in the womb, they do not say Counselor Deanna Troi.  They say
Lieutenant Commander Deanna Troi.  A clear reference to her rank.

Picard addresses her as "Commander" at one point in "Encounter at Farpoint."

Troi is a member of the medical staff but does most of her work on the
bridge where she is helpful as an advisor (though I must say that the writers
need to emphasize this more.)  Because she works with the -entire- complement
of the ship, the fact that she is a ranking officer can be a problem: someone
with a lower rank might be intimidated (this is also true of children and
the like), and someone of higher rank might not take her seriously.  That's
why she usually doesn't wear formal uniform.  But make no mistakes.  This
lady is a Lieutenant Commander in Starfleet and is in fact responsible to
Dr. Beverly Crusher, CMO and a Starfleet Commander.


By the way, how about Keiko?  Is she in Starfleet or a civilian researcher
on a military vessel???

Lady Firebird
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From: doctor@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (David Geis)
Subject: Vigilante
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:14:18 GMT

Apparently parts IIIa, b, and c of the story Vigilante have been posted and
I've missed them.  If anyone has them, I'd be supremely grateful if s/he
would send me a copy.  Please?

Thanks in advance...

Dave
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Newsgroups: [A[Bg,alt.startrek.creative
From: canadian@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jonathan Mark Aitken)
Subject: Re: The Next Phase & an Idea
Keywords: Klingon, teacher
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 19:21:55 GMT


>In the episode, The Next Phase -  of TNG - where Jordi and Ro were
>cloked:
Geordi (sp) :-)

>How about a Klingon Kindergarden teacher (I'm sure the Enterprise
>has one of those).
>
>     "You WILL take your nap, NOW!"
>
>Anyone else?
>
>Catherine

Sorry There is no fullblooded Kilngon serving with Starfleet.
Except for Worf and K'Lar (She was a half human and she is dead)
A story would be nice though!
JON
:-)

Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: ECL2B08@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Susan L. Minobe)
Subject: Re: uniforms
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:27:32 PST

In article <1993Jan16.093158.807@ab.wvnet.edu>, on 16 Jan 93 09:31:58 -0500,
myers_c@ab.wvnet.edu writes:
>> CAN SOMEBODY PLEASE EXPLAIN WHY ALL THE DIFFERENT COLOR UNIFORMS ON THE SHOW?
>> ALSO, DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE LITTLE "DIAMONDS" ON THE COLLARS ARE FOR?
>>
>>                                             THANKS FOR YOUR HELP
>>                                                   ERIC
>     Lets see if I can get it right.
>          Blue---------Science and Med.
>          Wine---------Command personal
>          Mustered-----Operations and Security.
>     I the "diamonds" that I understand that you are talking about are call
>PIPS (SP?).  They represents the rank of that officer.
>
>     If I have any of this wrong, someone place correct it.
>                                     Carlos
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Can we also correct spelling? It's not as if you're trying to
spell antidisestablishmentarianism! (SLM/UCLA BIOMED LIB)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: ECL2B08@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Susan L. Minobe)
Subject: Re: what happened to "visit to a strange universe?"
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:30:35 PST

In article <1993Jan16.172014.13705@bsu-ucs>, on 16 Jan 93 22:20:14 GMT,
00rrchorzemp@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu writes:
>
>what happened to "a visit to a strange universe"??  did it ever get past the
>4th part??   If it's hidden away at an FTP site, this stupid system won't let
>me access it, so if anyone out there has part 5 on, would they be kind enough
>to e-mail it to me??  Thankx ever so much!!
>                                      \|/
>                                     __^__
>Time Lady Rebecca                    |#|#|
>                                     |L|L|
>00rrchorzemp@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu       |L|L|
>                                     |L|L|
>                                     -----
>
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Me too! All 5 parts please!
(SLM/UCLA BIOMED LIB)
From: cs92njc@ccws-16.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk (Nik Clayton)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Re: Plot for new DS9 episode.
Date: 22 Jan 93 12:17:23 GMT
Reply-To: cs92njc@ccws-16.brunel.ac.uk.ac.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

In article 727594045@mcl.cc.utexas.edu, gksmith@mcl.cc.utexas.edu (G. Smith) writes:
>A friend of mine came up with an idea for a new DS9 episode.  In it,
>the BORG would ambush a Bijorne on the far side of the wormhole and
>use the new cyborg to attempt a take over of the DS9 station.
>
>The name of the new cyborg would be (and you see it coming),
>Bijorne Borg!

Or the Borg soul singer with a penchant for females in red dresses...

Chris de Borg

Rgds, Nik

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From: mjsabot@mlinknet.UUCP (Maya)
Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
Subject: Q
Date: 25 Jan 93 12:26:13 EST
Organization: the ModemLink Network, Long Island, New York

Hi All! 

Maybe this doesn't belong here but..... I love the character Q and was
wondering if anyone knows if he will appear in more episodes this season and
also... has anyone written any TNG stories with Q in them?  

Thanks in advance!
Also... does anyone find DS9 as boring as I do?

                                                                              
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Newsgroups: alt.startrek.creative
From: ccartwri@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Catherine A Cartwright)
Subject: Politics of Starfleet
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:21:45 GMT

I am new to this form of communication, I admit.  Let me apologize upfront
for my ignorance.

Being a definite part of TGG, There is something that has confused me for
some time.  What, exactly is the political structure of Starfleet?  The
movies have shown a president; but he is almost always surrounded by
military officers.  Neither series have made much, if any, mention of
politians, or anyone outside the military structure.

Where are the politicians - as lowly as we might consider them to be?

Why does the military have the ability to make policy - has that gone
beyond the perview of the elected officials, if indeed there are elections?

Have you ever noticed that no one ever votes or  speaks of elections (other
than on a local basis)?

The truth is, all my knowledge of Star Trek comes from watching the shows.
I have read little if any of the related material.  But it often seems to
me that Starfleet is, dare I say it, bordering on a military dictatorship.
Another Sparta, at the very least.

Enlightenment would be appreciated.

Catherine
Political Science Grd.
ccartwri@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu