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From: hasan@cs.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)
Subject: Re: Muslims - First Line Of Action
Followup-To: Deepak Bose
Summary:  The sixer from Miandad in Sharjah ! That was the omen... 
Keywords: Hope many other Indians come out of the closet....
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering, U. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 09:21:44 GMT

In article <dbose.724631583@khamsin.aem.umn.edu> dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:
>arkay@leland.Stanford.EDU (Abdur Khan) writes:
>
>
>>Dont feel sorry for us, not only do we have the BOMB, but routinely beat
>>the **** out of India in both cricket and hockey.
>
>My dearest Abdur Khan ,

Oooh! Deeapak, you take my breadth away ! If only you could address me just
once like that.... You donot know how my broken heart pitti patts....
>
>	I didn't know that you had such a poor memory. Although
>	this is not unexpected of you Pakistanis . When you can
>	forget 1971 & 1965 so easily , forgetting 1992 World Cup
>	match between INDIA & pakistan is not very surprising to
>	us .
>		Put some pressure on your dumb head and try to 
>	remember(if you can) how your poor mothercountry was stripped
>	and raped in front of thousands by INDIA in Australia .
>	Sometimes I think INDIA shouldn't have been so cruel on 
>	your poor country . Even today when I am reminded of that day
>	tears come into my eyes . OH !! What a RAPE it was !!
>	I again feel sorry for your poor country .
>
>		Unable to show any batting talent , one of the 
>	responsible and senior players of pakistani side tried 
>	to  give some consolation to pakistanis all over the world
>	by showing them how well he could jump .
>
>	KUTTE KI TARAH UCHAL RAHA THA WO !!
>
>	I really appreciate his sense of humour .
>
>	And that stupid man happens to be the captain of the pakistani
>	team today . Of course ! you need a stupid person to lead a 
>	bunch of stupid people .
>		Ha !! Ha !! Ha !!
>

HO, HO, HO... tell me you are not from the black hole... tell me that you are
not a peshabi like Morarji Desai.... tell me, tell all of us, please, we are
all dying to hear more from you !

>	Yeh to rahi khel ki baat !

	Bhai, tum baate he kartae hoo, ya kuch aur bhee aata hae ?
>
>	Are gulli dande se kya ladte ho golion aur bandookon se lado
>	Phir dhakhna kaisi maar padti hai .
>
>		Ha Ha Ha !!!!

Ho,  Ho, Ho, hang low under the mistletoe and a merry christmas to you too !

>
>			HINDUSTAN ZINDABAD !!!!!
			PESHABISTAN FOREVER ZINDABAD!!!!!
>
>			********************************
>
>
>			bye bye
>					Deepak

What is the matter, Deepak, SCI, ie your bretheren have black listed you or
is it simply your habit to provoke your undoing in general by posting such
nice articles to SCP. By the way, I would hate to see you leave SCP, as over the
last few days, I have actually grown to like you, may be we should get to know each other better, especially if you are as cute as your articles..... 


With longing hope forever your admirer,
Shams Hasan.
From: fall217@cse.unl.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: NEARLY A DOZEN MOSQUES DESTROYED YESTERDAY
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:33:29 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
Distribution: na
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B.Kumar@cs.ucl.ac.uk writes:

>Repl to: soc.culture.indian, soc.culture.pakistan, soc.culture.bangladesh

>The earthquake department of Allah's adiministration destroyed
>nearly a dozen mosques in INDONESIA by causing a powerful earthquake
>on 15 devcember.

>BBC reported that this powerful earthquake killed over 1000 people 
>and injured several thousand others.

>QUESTIONS:


>Will protesters take to street against Allah and burn few more places
>of worship in rage? 

>3) Can Allah be declared a fanatic of other religion for destroying 
>places of worship?

>4) Can Allah be banned for religious offence?

>5) Is there a quranic sura that explains why Allah himself caused
>destruction of mosque? Is there any hadith about it?

>6) can isssue be raised in UN security council for this anti-islamic
>act of Allah by Organisation of Islamic Nations?

>(It is a serious post. So please start a flame war against Allah.)

>Regards,

>bkumar
 Mr F kumar you and your stupid question will not remove any mud from the face 
 of India or the Hundus or the Hunduism. unless they lern to live a life with let other people live. 

If you belive in Allah then I can answar you questions but you belive in the STUPID bull Fther of coW and Husband of Cow if they are married.  According to your ancient belief when that stupid Bull get asthema and want to take a deep breath he shakes the crust of this world.  
	
so how to protest against BULL .  
KIll the bull.
Eat the BUll 
EAt his mother cow.
If there will be no bull to be born we will be able to protest against the bull
I am sure that you will Join us against this bull.

BBC did not care to mention the demolission of any church or mandir.
I am sure there may be some left.  Because Indunassioan were supposed to be hindu in the old time before becoming Muslims.  They may have destoryed there old temples to BUILD beutiful masjids.

this letter should not be affainded who has even little common sense to read the letter of Mr. F kumar again.  This is just a lesson to F Kumar that if you will ask us to show your face we have lots of mirrors.  ( I am sorry to mention things which I never liked to mention ). I dont want to be offensive any person who have more sense then the F kumar, or b.kumar as he write himself
From: naufal@ocf.berkeley.edu (Naufal A. Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: IDIOT MUSTAFA IBRAHIM
Date: 20 Dec 1992 20:22:28 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: tsunami.berkeley.edu


In article <1992Dec16.153731.77267@slate.mines.colorado.edu> imustafa@slate.
mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes (BTW, he is addressing me):

>If you forgot i have already assigned you a post in organization of 
>hidden enemies of Islam. The post is very important . You should 
>not waste your time in these articeles. 
                              ^^^^^^^^^
			You mean articles, right ??



>By the way you are   not
>my guardian to advice me what to do and  and what not to do.
                ^^^^^^  
	I think you mean advise. (Oops, I am sorry !  I again sound like your
	guardian --[ a discouraging job]--- but I must point out these stupid
	mistakes.)



>You are like a newly born kid who even doesnot know how to cry.
	You mean "does not even", I believe.


>Mind your own buisness and dont poke your shitty nose into my 
	       ^^^^^^^^
>articles. Got it ?

The question is not whether I am a hidden enemy of Islam or that you are an
open enemy of Islam, freedom, and humanity ( after your constant extremist 
posts, the latter has established itself as a universal truth).
The question is, whether you are an idiot or not ( in addition to all the other
remarkable qualities of yours) or whether you are the record holder in being
"the most frequently referred to as an idiot" on the net.

This question has been answered (as an affirmative) by all of your posts (even
the ones that were one word in length ). As you can see, it has been answered
again by the above post.

regards,
		Naufal Khan.



p.s. its not my nose thats shitty, its your business (your extremist posts) 
that stink. 


p.p.s  I apologize to all fellow netters for posting this article instead of
emailing, but it was something that I had to do.  I find Mustafa's articles and 
remarks extremely offending and annoying... and I know that thousands of people
share these feelings with me.
From: jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Nadeem Jamali)
Subject: Re: Ayodhya:  Symptoms, Malice + the Holy Grail
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:37:29 GMT
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.

In article <1gg2crINNcoh@charnel.ecst.csuchico.edu> jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali) writes:
>
>
>Asalam alaikum Saad,
>
>Thank you for taking the time to write a thoughtful article on Ayodhya.
>I do, however, disagree very strongly with it.  You say:
>
>>  No contemporary 
>>person is at fault, and certainly not Lal Krishan Advani nor his followers.  
>
>and then add...
>
>>And please blame the socialists, typified by the communists
>>of Kerala, who seek to acquire select Western statistics but bear
>>contempt for the creation of wealth.  
>
>There are some obvious flaws in this logic.  The communists of Kerala
>are contemporary persons.  It takes a substantial leap of imagination
>to blame the communists of Kerala before one blames the religious parties.  
>Especialy if you consider the fact the extemists, when they are not
>lootin' and shootin', are also playing their role in the creation
>(or lack of) of wealth.
>
>My main disageement, however, is theoretical.  You may be surprised
>to know this, but your argument is almost identical to the one that
>is presumably put forward by the communists of Kerala (I say presumably
>here, as I know next to nothing about Kerala).

Thanks Jawad for pointing these things out. I would like to add here that
I know one little thing about Kerala... that's one of the very few states
in India where the Ayodhya incident caused the least reaction. Saad Shafqat's
arguement was shallow to say the least. I cancelled the response I posted 
earlier because... you-know-what... 

... (stuff deleted)

>
>j n a.

Nadeem

-- 
Nadeem Jamali                                     jamalin@newton.ccs.tuns.ca
						 
School of Computer Science			  
Technical University of Nova Scotia		  (902)420-7527  
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
From: fmbutt@engage.sps.mot.com (Farooq M. Butt)
Subject: Re: Washington Ready to Brand Pakistan a Terrorist State
Organization: Motorola RISC Software, Austin, TX
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 02:05:11 GMT

In article <fb78.724802817@sol> fb78@sol.acs.unt.edu (Ganesh Gopalakrishnan) writes:
>
>A BETTER SOLUTION WOULD BE FOR INDIA AND PAKISTAN TO BURY THE HATCHET,
>HATRED, MUTUAL SUSPICIONS ETC AND WORK TOWARDS ECONOMIC BETTERMENT
>OF THEIR PEOPLES. FREE TRADE, EXCHANGE OF IDEAS AND MUTUAL TOLERANCE
>WILL BE SO MUCH BENEFICIAL IN THE LONG RUN. WHY CAN'T WE HAVE A
>REPLICA OF CANADA-US IN SOUTH ASIA? REGARDS. - GANESH
>

Ganesh, I agree that the idea you propose is ideal. However, upon opening 
my eyes and taking a long, hard look I fear that I see virtually no 
tolerance at all in the two major subcontinental communities.  Muslims 
fear and despise hindus and hindus feel the same way about muslims. 
Add to this volatile mixture the sparks of entrenched illiteracy and 
poverty and you quickly see that this problem, far from being solved 
is getting worse. During partition, many hundreds of thousands perished
and were killed and maimed unnecessarily by either side; now we are 
getting ready to do the same equipped with nukes.   Muslims came to 
India and ruled it for many hundreds of years, they felt that they 
brought with them a "higher" culture, religion and way of life. The
hindus have never really forgotten this, IMHO, and will always view 
the muslim as an "invader." This makes it awfully hard for the two 
to sit down, shake hands and get on with life: each feels they have 
a God-given right to all disputed land, resources etc. 

I have thought about this issue and I think while you and I could 
possibly come to an understanding and cooperate with each other, I 
doubt if the rest of our respective countryfolk would go so far without 
regarding such cooperation as outright capitulation. In this imperfect 
scenario, the best I can envision is both countries striving hard to 
become powers in their own right. The world is a terribly unfair place 
and *nobody* respects the weak. Pakistanis would be well-advised to
cease expending calories in chanting political naaaras and instead to 
start manufacturing say, TVs or toaster-ovens or tractors or computer
chips.  We must develop economic mass or we will become the Somalis 
of Asia.

fmb


-- 
Standard High-Tech Disclaimer: NOTHING  in the above article has the slightest 
relationship to reality. If any reality correspondences are found, please 
notify me IMMEDIATELY. Any threats, abuse or stupidity of any kind is purely 
UNintentional. These are MY Opinions NOT my employer's.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: misra@emily.polymer.uakron.edu (Sanjay Misra)
Subject: Lucknow (Re: Joke kaa mutlub kyaa?)
Organization: Institute of Polymer Science, University of Akron
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:58:58 GMT

	There is no other city like it. When people fight they still
	say "aap" instead of "too"! e.g. "aapki ma ki ..."!

	The Imambaras, Residency, Aminabad and Hazratgunj. The gals
	of I.T. College. Heck, never seen a Railway station more statesque 
	than the "bari line wala ishtation" at Charbagh.

	Bye Bye

	Sanjay
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Subject: Re: Washington Ready to Brand Pakistan a Terrorist State
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:44:18 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.213636.28616@beaver.cs.washington.edu> hasan@cs.washington.edu (Shams Hasan) writes:
>Dear fellow Pakis/PakAmericans,
>
>Pakistan is a nation waiting to be borned. 
>
>For the capable and proficient, who can express well and have access to Pakistanis in positions of power, we MUST all join together in sending REGUALAR mail
>and whenever we can FAXES, to government officials in Islamabad, as well as the
>upcoming generation that was borned in Pakistan after partition and who are
>successful in Pakistan today.
>
>Economically, we lack coordiantion and sound representation. For example,
>there is not coordinated and concentrated effort in making an export policy
>targetting the world, with each and every country aggressively persued.
>
>Internally, we have poor technological implementation, with a dispropotionate
>amount of people in rural areas with no hope of educating themselves for the
>upcoming demands of the 21st century.
>
>So, that is to give you an idea of some of the tasks ahead. 
>
>Division by ethnicity and language has been a big barrier to progress in
>Pakistan. I myself come from a landlord family of Pathan/Iranian stock that settled in India over two hundred years ago. I speak Urdu, as my mother tongue, 
>and being borned in Karachi, Pakistan, consider myself a Pakistani first and
>formost by heritage, not UP wala nor Pathan (Even though all my family looks
                                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>typicaly pathan/iranian due to internal family marriages over generations) nor
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>iranian.

This dude seems proud to be a Pakistani and even prouder not to look
like a Pakistani.
>
>So, all of you who feel for Pakistan like I feel, who think of Pakistan like
>I think and who are PROUD of your Pakistani heritage, like I am, and who all
>dream in their hearts that one day we want to go and live there at some period
>of our lives, let us begin discussion on this valuable forum, and if God 
>willing, we will overcome all odds.
>
>Thanks for your patience.  I await anxiously your valued articles.
>
>Best Regards,
>Shams Hasan.
>
>
>

Manoj
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From: patrinr@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: *** Revenge, Temples destroyed
Date: 11 Dec 92 12:52:21 -0600
Distribution: world
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1g8prfINNbhb@CURIE.SYSTEMSY.CS.YALE.EDU>, ahmed-shakil@cs.yale.edu (Shakil Waiz Ahmed) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Dec9.141010.4485@memstvx1.memst.edu>, patrinr@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
> 
>> If you would kindly read a news item posted in SCI titled "Bangladesh's
>> temples under renewed attack" you will know as to what I was referring to.
>> The source UPI clearly stated that the Hindu Shiva temple in the Thatari
>> Bazaar district was razed to the ground by a 1000 strong crowd. If "sheer 
>> numbers" is an excuse, would you then in the same way condone the Ayodhya 
>> incident where there was a 200,000 strong crowd. I doubt it. My point is 
>> that both the Pakistani and Bangladesh govt. are just as guilty, 
>> inefficient or whatever as the Indian govt is in this issue and hence 
>> have ceased the right to criticise the Indian govt. and its people. 
> 
> 
> In the case of the Babri Masjid, the conflict was old and there had
> been repeated threats by the BJP and followers.  Indeed, there have
> been attempts in the past by groups to demolish it.  *Obviously* the
> government should have taken precautions.  In the case of the present
> incidents in Bangladesh, it is an immediate backlash, which is much
> more difficult to deal with.  The Bangladesh government had no reason to
> anticipate this scenario.  Considering the spontaneous nature of the
> flare-up, the government and military did react reasonably well and
> kept most things under control.  In parts of Dhaka, police had long
> battles with mobs to protect temples and other Hindu sites.
> 

 I hope you will accept that the govt. did try to prevent the attack 
in Ayodhya. It tried and it failed. There was a supreme court order
in that respect too. The incidents that followed in Bangladesh and
Pakistan were as condemnable as the one in Ayodhya. All that I have 
been saying is that none of these countries have any moral right to
protest about Ayodhya. They were not only unable to protect their own 
citizens (the Hindus) but also it is believed that the violence
was caused by the rabid hysteria caused by top political leaders.
Hence their protests, bandhs, acts of burning the Indian flag and
the effigy of the Prime Minister is utterly shameless, hypocritical
and disgusting. In short let them learn how to treat their minorities
before trying to lecture anyone. 

Narasimha Rao Patri 

 
> Having said all this, the Indian government *has* pledged to
> reconstruct the temple, and they obviously did not *encourage* its
> destruction.  Nevertheless, they do carry some degree of
> responsibility for the simple reason that given the generally
> antagonistic nature of the BJP and past threats, this situation was
> bound to arise at some point...
> 
> -- Shakil
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: fsahmed@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Farhan Ahmed)
Subject: Re: Whatz going on Shams?
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:48:21 GMT

In article <1gp292INN62g@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> khan@ces.cwru.edu (Mansoor Khan) writes:
>
>>My dear Deepak Bose,
>Stuff deleted
>
>>Shams Hasan
>
>>ps. try not to imbibe on yellow colored liquids, instead try coca cola
>>with ice, it will taste much better, believe me!
>	   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	Shams dude, how do you know?  :-)
>
>Mansoor Khan
>Cleveland, Ohio
>
>
>


	OOOPS!!
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From: naufal@ocf.berkeley.edu (Naufal A. Khan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: IDIOT MUSTAFA IBRAHIM
Date: 16 Dec 1992 01:21:03 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: planecrash.berkeley.edu


Subject: Re: IDIOT MUSTAFA IBRAHIM

C'mon guys ! what are we arguing about ?  He knows that he is one and so do 
we. If anyone doesn't, then read the remaining article........



In article <1992Dec14.163403.89120@slate.mines.colorado.edu> imustafa@slate.
mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes :


>In article <14DEC199208203155@vxcrna.cern.ch> mirza@vxcrna.cern.ch (MIRZA,I./EP) writes:
>>
>>	First we need religion to reduce the number of people.
>>	Development will follow thereafter.
>>
>>Mirza Ilyas


>Let us start reducing the number of people from your family !


Only an idiot would make a statement like that.BTW, I'm confused. Is he 
threatening Mirza Ilyas ??? If he is, then isn't this illegal ?







In article <1992Dec14.163740.88520@slate.mines.colorado.edu>
imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM) writes:

: In article <Bz6u0E.MJ@news.cso.uiuc.edu> nd3375@meibm5.cen.uiuc.edu (Nishit Dey) writes:
: >In article <1992Dec12.163734.66958@slate.mines.colorado.edu> imustafa@slate.mine
: >s.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:
: >>>
: >>>      Muslims in Pakistan offered Jumma Prayer in one of the
: >>>      biggest temple in Sindh near Indus River.
: >>>
: >
: >Honey, you shouldn't overwork yourself like this. You are still sick and
: >need absolute rest.
: >
: >
: >Nishit
 
> Sweat Heart , I think you need a bone.

>	Also if Ni is removd from your name the remaining portion 
>	is a word called ' shit ' which you really deserve.
>	D stands for Dog.



Way to go Mustafa !!!! You are now the " most frequently referred to as idiot "
person on the net. By the way, what do you mean by "sweat heart" ?  A heart
that sweats. Were you trying to say 'sweet heart'.  I hope  (for your sake
and for your beloved's sake ) that you never write love letters.

I know that the Nishit guy called you honey and everything, but you
replied back with the Sweat Heart article. You didn't have to post another
article about Ni and shit.


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*	Naufal Ansar Khan       Life is fast -- before the finals	*
*			        Life stinks -- during the finals	*
*				Life is fun -- after the finals 	*
*				Life is boring -- without the finals	*
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: george@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Imran Mohamed)
Subject: Why
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Organization: CSO Resource Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:13:54 GMT


Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:18312 soc.culture.bangladesh:6796 soc.culture.indian:41114
From: khaleq@brahms.udel.edu (Mohame Khalequzzaman)
Subject: Victory Day in Bangladesh!!!
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:41:23 GMT

Today (it is already the 16th of December in Bangladesh) is the Victory
Day in Bangladesh.  This the day when 93,000 pakistani souldiers 
surrendered unconditionally to the joint command of Indian Army and
Bangladeshi Freedom fighters at the end of 9-month-long liberation war
against Pakistan to become independent.  I have a lot of Pakistanis 
friends, who said that most of the people in Pakistan were not aware of
the atrocities organized by their souldiers in Bangladesh.  On learning
the fact that the Pakistani souldiers killed 3 million (yes 3 million people) 
in Bangladesh and raped 200,000 women and destroyed most of the infra-
structure of the country in the name of Islam (!), most of my friends were
shocked and very apologetic and felt ashamed to be a Pakistani.  As long
as you the Pakistani people understand and know that the army committed
a historic crime in Bangladesh, we the Bangladeshis can forgive you and
do business again based on mutual respect for each other.  Besides, we
the Bangladeshis know that the people in Pakistan were kept in dark about the whole situation in Bangladesh.  Only great minds can admit wrong-doing and are
capable of apologizing - like the Japanese apologized to Chinese and Korean
for their wrong-doing against those nations.

Show your courage and greatness today to the Bangladeshi people by
apologizing for the atrocities organized by your previous generations.
Congratulate the heroic Bangladeshis on their network soc.culture.bangladesh.

Khaleq
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