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From: TUK067@maccvm.corp.mot.com (David Wheeler)
Subject: Re: First ball dismissal
Organization: Motorola
Date: 18 Nov 1992 02:29:34 CST

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>David Wheeler) says:
>
>>zorl@hippo.ru.ac.za (Mr RK Laubscher) writes:
>>
>>>...the highlights of this match are Kapil Devs first ball dismissal
>>>of Jimmy Cook (first time a batsman has been dismissed first ball of
>>>the match on debut)...
>>
>>This is not the first time that this has happened in a Test match, but
>>the second.  On the first occasion, the unfortunate batsman was Chris
>>Smith (Hampshire and England).
>>
>aha, but on that occasion it wasn't the 1st ball of the match and nor was it
>the 1st ball of the innings-- it was just the 1st ball smith faced.

You're absolutely right, I concur.  I was thinking in terms of a batsman
being dismissed by the first ball he received in Test cricket, of which
Smith's dismissal was the first recorded instance.

Thanks everyone who followed up on this; I read all responses.
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From: sudhama@engin.umich.edu (Sudhama Gopalan)
Subject: Re: More about Sandeep Patil
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 10:36:08 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: na

Sandeep Patil's biggest claim to fame is, sadly, not on the cricket field but
off it. His cricket magazine, Ekach Shatkar, is the top-selling sports mag in
Bombay. It outsells Sportstar and was possibly the last nail in the coffin of
Sportsweek. Then, the city's largest selling newspaper (non-English) Mahanagar
was started in his garage.
For all the lack of application and seriousness Patil seemed to display during
his Test career, his stint as MP captain was quite revealing - he took that team
into the Ranji knockout stage at least twice. And apparently did a decent job in
instilling some professionalism into the MP team. 
In the case of Patil, the final word is this - when his powers as a batsman were
at a peak, he simply did'nt measure up as a person. Today when he does, his
batting prowess is nowhere like before.

Sudhama
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From: sidi@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sadiq Yusuf)
Subject: Re: Chinese bowling
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:08:47 GMT

In article <01GRC3715KYA98558I@ccmail.sunysb.edu> ABEGLEY@ccmail.sunysb.edu (Anthony M. Begley) writes:
>
>               State University of New York at Stony Brook
>                       Stony Brook, NY 11794-2275
>
>                                            Anthony M. Begley
>                                            Materials Science
>                                            516 632-8516
>                                            19-Nov-1992 11:58am EST
>FROM:  ABEGLEY
>TO:    Remote Addressee                     ( _rec-sport-cricket@cs.utexas.edu )
>
[......]

>
>2) No offence here, but God I was beginning to get bored by the discussions on 
>tthe Indian selection polic(I guesess I am just jealous you guys have so much to 
>discuss).
>
>Im afraid such bandwidthhh has a negative result -- as an impartial (albeit) 
>English  observer of the Test series I am now willing India to fail as it makes 
>for more entertaining r.s.c. articles from our Indian friends.:-))
>
>3) Dont you all think its ironic that everyone hates the regional selection 
>policy in India, but then when a certain area has no players selected (the 
>South, I believe) everyone complains !!
>
>Best wishes to all,
>Tony Begley


	Well, I guess we did go overboard ! But Tony, surely you haven't
forgotten, I did have a little something to say when Gower was left out of
the England side , now didn't I ?? ;-) :-) ( BTW, have another article
written at the time of the selection - will post it in before the England
tour begins ! We shall never let the memory of this injustice die :-) )


			Sadiq [ Gower - England's # 1 ] Yusuf

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From: raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed)
Subject: Pak team for the tour?
Organization: DA&MRL, Engineering, UWO, London Ont. CA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:46:02 GMT


Did any one know whether the pak team for aus-nz tour? it should be announced by
now.

thanks.

-- 

S.R.Raza.
raza@surya.engrg.uwo.ca
From: gds@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (Riel Smit)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Durban test match: Finer points at Kingsmead
Date: 20 Nov 92 07:23:06 GMT
Reply-To: gds@cs.uct.ac.za
Organization: Computer Science Department, University of Cape Town

jcsheth@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
>Richard Streeton writes in the London Times that at Kingsmead Durban on day 

>" The game was not held on Sunday as after the high Veldt's worst winds        
>  and rainstorms for two years turned the flawless pitch into a muddied 
>  morass overnight.
>     The winds were such that the plastic covers were shredded after 30
>  metre long aluminium tubes were placed on top were then blown away.As
>  is the custom in these parts, petrol was poured on the square and set
>  alight to initiate the drying process.
>     It left the pitch blackened with S.A. having to contend with an al-
>  most old-fashioned sticky wicket, a phrase that is now obsolete. "

I thought someone else would have pointed this out, but since no one has
yet, I will:  someone got pretty mixed up above.  The description above
refers to the first game of the tour and NOT the first test. It was a 
(one-day?) friendly between the Indians and some invitation team from 
Harry Oppenheimer, played at a venue built (if I understood correctly)
especially for this (and future such) occasions (hopefully the're using it
for other matches as well).  It was not "serious" cricket - otherwise the
game would have been called off.

Before the burnt the pitch, a helicopter hovered for about an hour over the
pitch, trying to blow it dry.  Oppenheimer sure has money to spend...
Oh, and this was the first time ever I heard about burning the pitch to get
it dry -- so much for "as is the custom in these parts..."!
-- 
Riel Smit,  Computer Science                              gds@cs.uct.ac.za
University of Cape Town                      gds%cs.uct.ac.za@rain.psg.com
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:15:31 EST
From: Spaceman Spiff <SXK129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: First ball dismissal
Distribution: world
 <1992Nov17.151708.4117@memstvx1.memst.edu>

In article <1992Nov17.151708.4117@memstvx1.memst.edu>,
patrinr@memstvx1.memst.edu says:
>
>If I remember right, Gavaskar was out first ball to Imran Khan. That
>was Gavaskar's last series. May be I am wrong. Can anyone clarify.
>
several people have been dismissed first ball of a test match. gavaskar has
had this honour(?) on 3 occasions- out to geoff arnold(?) at the oval(?) in
1974 (summer of 42), out to marshall at calcutta 83-84 and out to imran at
?? in 85-86.
kapildev has had the honour of dismissing a batsman 1st ball of a test match
on two occasions- mohsin khan at jullundur, 83-84 and jimmy cook a few days ago

Stay cool,
The Thinker

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From: shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273)
Subject: Re: English veto
Reply-To: shamim@bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Morristown, NJ
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 21:15:46 GMT

In article 134144@is.morgan.com,  andyc@is.morgan.com (Andrew Coad) writes:
>In article <1992Nov13.144040.12580@walter.bellcore.com>, shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273) writes:
>
>> Actually, England to their credit never used the veto, officially. 
>> 
>> Privately, of course, many motions were never presented because of the threat of the veto.
>> 
>> 	--SAN
>
>Can you give us netters some examples of motions that were never presented? It
>would be interesting so see the nature of them. Also, who actually threatened to
>veto? Was it England alone, England and Australia or just Australia?
>
>Andrew Coad

The banning of SA from test status was
delayed by several years although the WI, India and Pak pressed for the
issue.  Australia and England had some reservations about the ban. 
A more recent example was that of SL gaining test status: it was not 
presented until there was private agreement from England. 
The front foot no-ball rule was delayed a few years by Australia. 
There are other less well known examples. 

	--SAN
From: SHARIQ@charlie.usd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Chinamen and........
Date: 19 Nov 1992 22:06:39 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

The Chinaman is the googly version of the left arm wrist spinner. So for
a left handed batsman,it is a googly when bowled over the wicket by a left arm
wrist spinner, whereas for a right-handed batsman it is a leg break. Many 
people think that all left arm finger spinners can bowl chinamen but this is 
somewhat a misconception. Can Tauseef bowl a googly?Possibly, but he would not
be the bowler he is.The last recognized bowler who was a left arm wrist spinner
was Tribe


. 
One question I have is that was Bradman dismissed by Eric Hollies the last time
he stepped onto the cricket field?

shariq@charlie.usd.edu
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From: gopala@cs.wisc.edu (Venkatasubramanian K Gopalakrishnan)
Subject: Re: Cricket Quiz
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:20:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.210958.10588@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu>,
nadeem@redskins.ent.ohiou.edu (Mohammed Nadeem  ISE-GRAD) writes:
|> 
|> 	Here's a small quiz for X-mas break.
|> 
|> 	In the first innings of a test match, only two balls have
|> 	been bowled by a bowler and the score board shows a total
|> 	of 12 runs with no extras. (No no-balls, no wides, etc.)
|> 	Both the batsmen have scored 6 runs apiece.
|> 	
|> 	Good luck
|> 
|> -- 
|> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|>    Mohammed Nadeem	  e-mail: nadeem@bobcat.ent.ohiou.edu
|> 	"TREAT OTHERS THE WAY YOU WANT THEM TO TREAT YOU"
|> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

How about this:

	The facing batsman takes a single. A bad throw from a fielder hits
the helmet that the 'keeper has safely kept behind him, resulting in 5 more
runs (which hopefully go to the batsman). The other batsman who is now facing
the bowler ofcourse smashes a huge six over long on, off the second ball of the
match.

-KGB
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From: shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273)
Subject: Re: Flogging dead chinamen (sic)
Reply-To: shamim@bellcore.com
Organization: Bell Communications Research, Morristown, NJ
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:44:56 GMT

In article 01GRDOTDJYHU9859BS@ccmail.sunysb.edu,  ABEGLEY@ccmail.sunysb.edu (Anthony M. Begley) writes:
>
>the vote was 3-2 for the ball breaking from right to left, i.e. away from a RH 
>bat.
>

Fortunately, there are facts in this matter so one does not have to go by votes of people 
who are ignorant of the issue. Please see my earlier posting or if you have missed it, 
I saved a copy for exactly such a case. 
>
>PS Still noone can name just one LH WRIST spinner !! Surely there must have been 
>one somewhere, even if not in test cricket. If so did he have a chinaman?
>

I must have missed your question. In test cricket, the best example is 
Garfield Sobers who not only bowled LH finger spin but also LH wrist spin. 
He took many many wickets with wrist spin including 4 or 5 in a ROW vs England at Lords. 

The Chinaman is named after a Chinese player Ellis Achong who played for the WI before the 
second world war. For Pakistan, Miran Bux, a test cricketer was also a LH wrist spinner. 
For India, none other than the great Vinoo Mankad was a prime exponent of this art (he also 
bowled LH finger spin). In fact after Sobers I believe Mankad was the most complete all rounder. 

	--SAN
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Monday, 16 Nov 1992 14:54:42 PST
From: <RAJA@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Amre should be dropped for the next test!

This guy is full of the unmentionable stuff.

rajagopalan
From: pieter@ford.ee.up.ac.za
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: India vs SA-Invitation IX, India 6/1
Date: 20 Nov 1992 02:57:22 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

India won the toss and is batting in Bloemfontein. Shastri(2) bowled
lbw by Snell. Tendulkar is injured according to the useless
commentators. They might even tell us today what the injury is....
I'll update the teams in a while, but this is what I could figure out
thus far: 

Invitation IX
Munshi,Yachad,Rushmere,Davids,Wilkinson,Van Zyl,Matthews,Snell,McHelm,Kuiper

India
Shastri(2), Jadeja(3), Raman(1), Prabhakar, Kumble, Raju
From: pieter@ford.ee.up.ac.za
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Inda vs SA, raining => no play
Date: 16 Nov 1992 02:39:41 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


It is raining on Kingsmead and it does not look good for the rest of the day. 

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From: ajc@philabs.philips.com (Alec Cameron)
Subject: Re: ZIM vs NZ T2 FINAL
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:54:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.200036.4461@julian.uwo.ca> raza@engrg.uwo.ca (Mr. Raza Syed) writes:
>First loss for Zimbabwe, still a good start to test cricket considering that
>they suffered their first loss in third match they played, all the other contries
>lost their very first match(except england).  One must also praise Houghton
                                    ^^^^^^^ Australia
>for his brave and sporting declaration of their first inning. From their past record
>and this attitude they will sure develop into a compititive side, if they are not already.
>
>
>Can any one tell us the response in Zim towards present serieses(sp?) i.e., crowd
>turnout etc etc.
>-- 
>
>S.R.Raza.
>raza@surya.engrg.uwo.ca
>


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From: farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell)
Subject: Re: Austrlian/Tasmanian News
Organization: James Cook University
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:27:30 GMT

In <1992Nov16.003627.8369@newsroom.utas.edu.au> astley@franklin.cc.utas.edu.au () writes:
>Tassie, Boon (c), Tucker (vc), Hills, Courtney, Cox, Ponting, Young, Atkinson
>Matthews, Miller, McPhee, Farrell (likely 12th man)

  Don't let the name "Michael" fool you! This guy really is me! I have to take
a few days off to fly to Tasmania to train, but it's worth it.


Friendless, superstar and all-round great guy
From: sma@waikato.ac.nz (Stephen Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: 199, 299, 499 !
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:50:35 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

> In article <92317.230423U58582@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U58582@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>> 499 - Hanif Mohammed in first class match (he I think was definitely n.o.)
Actually he was run out - tragic.

Ahh, Cricket.  The great leveller.


Stephen
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From: Sanjay.Naik@launchpad.unc.edu (Sanjay Naik)
Subject: Re: (none) --- actually about Amre
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:47:58 GMT

In article <karnik.721850557@myria> karnik@myria.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes:
>In <9211151714.AA08226@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> sheth@a.cs.okstate.edu writes:
>
	<initial message deleted>
>
>	Yes, great work by Amre, just when it was needed. Of course, we always
>knew he was Test material, after all he's a Bombayite :-> (ok, ok, sorry!)
>Now, as Dr.Rao mentioned, let's hope his idols aren't Deepak Shodhan and 
>Surinder Amarnath :-) Any comments from you guys in SA about his batting ? Was
>it dull/dour/dogged ? It looks like only about 150 runs were scored in the 
>whole day... or was it a whole day's play ?
>
	Don't forget Kiran! Once again he contributed more than useful
runs and took part in a decent partnership with Amre. 

Only a 150 runs in the day - I was thinking the same thing. There must
have been some interruptions though.A good day for India, but we're still
not out of the woods though. But wait a minute, if the wicket's turning
and wot with our two spinners........................nah! I'm dreaming.

>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Neeran   Karnik  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Dept. of Computer Science,      | Email: karnik@cs.umn.edu
>University of Minnesota         |        karn0001@student.tc.umn.edu
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Bye,

Sanjay Naik.

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From: murali@stretch.polymer.uakron.edu (Murali Cotah)
Subject: century on debut
Organization: Institute of Polymer Science, University of Akron
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:24:17 GMT

Keywords: 

did azhar score century on debut -- ? could someone clarify for me please
cotah
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: andyc@is.morgan.com (Andrew Coad)
Subject: Re: English veto
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:41:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.144040.12580@walter.bellcore.com>, shamim@bellcore.com (Shamim Naqvi,MRE-2E342,829-4711,,21273) writes:

> Actually, England to their credit never used the veto, officially. 
> 
> Privately, of course, many motions were never presented because of the threat of the veto.
> 
> 	--SAN

Can you give us netters some examples of motions that were never presented? It
would be interesting so see the nature of them. Also, who actually threatened to
veto? Was it England alone, England and Australia or just Australia?

Andrew Coad
From: shaze@cs.ubc.ca (Scott Hazelhurst)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Durban test match: Finer points at Kingsmead
Date: 17 Nov 1992 19:39:29 -0800
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
NNTP-Posting-Host: tolmie.cs.ubc.ca

jcsheth@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu writes:
>Richard Streeton writes in the London Times that at Kingsmead Durban on day 
>" The game was not held on Sunday as after the high Veldt's worst winds        
>  and rainstorms for two years turned the flawless pitch into a muddied 
>  morass overnight.
>     The winds were such that the plastic covers were shredded after 30
>  metre long aluminium tubes were placed on top were then blown away.As
>  is the custom in these parts, petrol was poured on the square and set
>  alight to initiate the drying process.
>     It left the pitch blackened with S.A. having to contend with an al-
>  most old-fashioned sticky wicket, a phrase that is now obsolete. "


The highveld storms must have been quite something considering that
the highveld is about three hundred miles and a mountain range
away from Kingsmead..



Scott
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From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: (none) --- actually about Amre
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:58:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.BxrzL9.DuI
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <karnik.721850557@myria>, karnik@myria.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes:
>Surinder Amarnath :-) Any comments from you guys in SA about his batting ? Was
>it dull/dour/dogged ? It looks like only about 150 runs were scored in the 
>whole day... or was it a whole day's play ?

    Harsha Bogle was commenting that the game was gripping even though only 149
runs were scored in over five and half hours (the stumps were drawn 25 minutes
earlier because of bad light). More scored 55 and the eighth wicket stand was
worth 101. By the way, Harsha Bogle on BBC Sports Roundup is not all
informative. He does not give the scores of the various batsmen nor any such
details. I would prefer either Jon Agnew or Jack Bannister to come on live
during the Sports Roundup - both of them are watching the tests and giving
commentaries either for TV or radio.

>
>>Atul
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Neeran   Karnik  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Dept. of Computer Science,      | Email: karnik@cs.umn.edu
>University of Minnesota         |        karn0001@student.tc.umn.edu
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Department of Electrical Engineering
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From: khan@shrike.und.ac.za (Feroz Khan)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Crowds at cricket
Date: 16 Nov 1992 09:53:38 GMT
Organization: University of Natal (Durban), South Africa
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gds@casper.cs.uct.ac.za (Riel Smit) writes:
: Sanjay.Naik@launchpad.unc.edu (Sanjay Naik) writes:
: >The crowd is a big disappointment though. Just 3000 :-( I think more are
: >employed to do the cleaning, etc. whenever a game is staged at the Eden
: >Gardens against any opposition. There must be a reasonable explanation for
: >such a low turnout. You'd think that SA's first game at home after their
: >long exile would have brought a larger crowd.
: 
: As someone else has said: the rugby could have had something to do with it
: on Saturday.  Aparantly attendance was better on Sunday.  The commentators
: mentioned that the admission prices were quite high (and I have now
                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: forgotten what they are, but I remember thinking, wow, I won't pay that).
                                                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You are quite right, Admission to the grounds is R20 on weekdays and R25 on
weekends. If you want to sit on the stands you pay extra, eg to sit on the
open stand on the eastern part of the ground costs an extra R15. If a
family of 4 with 2 adults and 2 kids were to go for the full 5 days the
cost will be as follows. (We are assuming that the kids are under 12yrs).
               Weekdays    Weekends
  Adults :      R20*6   +    R25*4
  Kids   :      R5*6    +    R10*4
                R150    +    R140     =  R290

In these inflationary times, that is equivalent to almost a months
groceries for the family. It is cheaper to watch the match(or what we get
of it 3 hours out of 6 1/2 hours) on the television or listen to ball by
ball coverage on radio.

: 
: To stave off at least some of the flames (and maybe generate even more :-),
: I'm not saying "throw out the 5 day game" - I have heard most of the
: arguments fot it and they sound reasonable, so you can have your 5 day
: games, just don't complain if I don't show up to watch :-)
: -- 
: Riel Smit,  Computer Science                              gds@cs.uct.ac.za
: University of Cape Town                      gds%cs.uct.ac.za@rain.psg.com
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