From: avr@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (adam.v.reed)
Subject: Re: On Polish Anti-semitism
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:02:38 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.polish
Summary: Documentation (for promised apologies)

In article <dobo.718777510@swalwell>, dobo@cs.UAlberta.CA (W. Dobosiewicz) writes:
< >Well, "recently" must mean "within the last decade or so."  After all,
< >around 1968 there were *massive* falsifications of Polish history wrt
< >WWII, the Jews, etc.  Even the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising was revised to
< >be understood as more a Polish rebellion than a Jewish one.  See
< >Davidowicz.
< 
< I consider myself to be well versed in history, but I have not yet heard
< this one. I do not know anybody by the name Dawidowicz, so instead of
< seeing him/her, may I ask you to give some details of this revision. I
< really want to know who wanted to "polonize" the Ghetto Uprising and for
< what silly purposes (after all, Warsaw had its genuine "Polish" uprising
< and there is no need to steal glory from anybody). Until you (or someone
< else) bring in some details, I will suspect this is a malicious

Roger has already posted the detailed citation. I'll add that
the citation - to a ZBoWiD publication from a time when that
organization was controlled by Moczar - is credible and verifiable.
Moczar's associates invented some really ridiculous stuff, and
even copied some verbatim from "Der Stuermer". See pages 402-403
in Jerzy Eisler, "Marzec 1968" (which I strongly recommend to
anyone who reads polish, especially to get another perspective [pp
127-128] on the issue of the "UB Jews" so beloved of Alexander Mazur).
In the particular instance cited by Dawidowicz, the intended
impression that the ordinary reader will have obtained from the
cited passage is exactly as described by her. If you do a close,
lawyerly reading, you will indeed find that the author produces
the desired impression without actually saying what he seems to
say. But how many readers of such books will have read that closely?

< >Well, why not?  I'd *love* to hear how Polish anti-Semitic sentiments
< >grew, why they infected the nationalist parties, why the Aryan legislation
< >of Nazi Germany began to be copied in Poland in the late 30's.  These 
< >causes are the very thing that interests me.
< 
< Could you give ONE example of "Aryan legislation of Nazi Germany" (or
< anything even remotely similar) that was adopted by the parliament of Poland
< in the 30s?

One instance was the delegation of professional licensing of
engineers to a professional association that, with several
others, had adopted the Nazi "Aryan Paragraph" as a
qualification for membership. Another was a copy of Nazi
legislation against Kosher slaughtering of cattle. I've
already posted references on both.

< I have to accuse you publicly of spreading lies. As you wanted examples of
< anti-Polish false statements being promoted publicly by American Jews, you
< have a good example now: one produced by yourself.
< (Unless, of course, you give the example, in which case I will promptly
< withdraw my accusations with appropriate apologies.)

Do that.

< W. Dobosiewicz

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