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From: joan@stein.u.washington.edu (Joan Bishop)
Subject: Orlando Stoddard and CA Prospecting
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:49:15 GMT

For some reason my last message on this subject did not include all I had
written.  The first part was that I am looking for Orlando Stoddard whose
life was on "Death Valley Days" as an old prospector in the late 1800's
during the time of "Twenty Mule Team Borax" when they first began mining
borax from Death Valley.  I think it was a radio program, but could have
also been on later on TV.  I am not sure whether he was mining borax or
gold, silver, lead or what as they were all mined in that area.

I am a direct descendant of his brother James Corodon Stoddard which I
believe died in Genessee County Michigan in the late 1800's.

We contacted the Borax company and they weren't able to find anything
in a sample of 100 transcripts, but their collections include 300+.

Anything you have on Stoddards or the Death Valley Area in that time
period would be appreciated.

Happy Holidays
Joan (Wallace) Bishop
University of Washington
Seattle, Washington
joan@u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: davego@halcyon.com (Dave Oliphant)
Subject: Re: PAF tricks
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 00:24:53 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.162359.10331@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper) writes:
>Do you have any fix for the problem of PAF not allowing
>children to be affixed to an "unmarried" female?  I would 
>appreciate any tips you can give me.  Thanks.
>--
>Jean L. Cooper    (BITNET: JLC5F@virginia.edu   CIS: 70253,1114)
>"The true University of these days is a Collection of Books." 
>                                           --Carlyle                        

This might work.  Instead of adding children for an unmarried female,
try adding a mother to a child.

From the main menu, select item 4: Pedigree Search;

Put the child in the primary position, i.e., the upper-left hand
position, with no mother or father showing;

Type M for Mother (or F for Father, depending on which parent you want
to add), and you are prompted "There is no mother entered. Add her now
(Y/N) "

Type Y for yes.  This brings up the Identify Mother menu; select item 2,
Mother in file, know RIN;

Prompt is "Which RIN"; enter the RIN of the person you want to add as
the mother;

This brings up the prompt with the person's info, and asks "Is this the
individual you want (Y/N);  Select Y (yes) and there you are.

;


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Date:         Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:58:37 -0500
Reply-To:     Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
From:         Carol Botteron <botteron@BU-IT.BU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: PAF tricks
Comments: To: ROOTS-L@VM1.NoDak.EDU

"Jean L. Cooper" asks:

>  Do you have any fix for the problem of PAF not allowing
>  children to be affixed to an "unmarried" female?

No problem.  A child can have no parents, or one, or two.  If the
mother is unmarried, you can just leave the father "unknown."

That's in Macintosh PAF 2.1.  Jean, I don't mean to pick on you
personally, but just yesterday I posted an article reminding people to
TELL US WHAT COMPUTER IT RUNS ON, and the question is an example of
the confusion you can cause by not specifying "IBM PAF 2.2" or
whatever.

Roy asks:

> A related question: Is there any way to get around the requirement
> that couples be of the opposite gender?

If you mean Mac PAF 2.1, no.  I just opened it and tried to change the
genders of the parents of a child, and it won't let me.  This could be
awkward if, say, you know that someone was "daughter of a neighbor
named Miller" but not whether Miller was mother or father.

If you mean genetically, probably that won't happen until after the
genealogy software can handle it.   B-)

If you mean a gay/lesbian couple raising a child, this could be
handled something like an adoption, in the sense that the child has
two biological parents plus any other parents who participate in
raising the child.  Genealogically this becomes complicated; Roots had
a discussion on adoption this spring.  (Apparently it matters whether
you intend to trace the genetic heritage or the cultural one; it's
possible to do both but you'd need two sets of charts.)  There is a
way (which I don't remember) to search the archives and find these
articles.

Trying to be helpful,
Carol Botteron    botteron@bu-it.bu.edu    botteron@ai.mit.edu
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:43:58 -0500
Reply-To:     Robert Thomin <bz696@cleveland.Freenet.Edu>
From:         Robert Thomin <bz696@CLEVELAND.FREENET.EDU>
Subject:      MERRY CHRISTMAS
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Hello Rooters!!
Wishing all you rooters a Christmas filled with happy hours and cherished
memories and a healthy happey NEW YEAR.
Let us all pray that racism will end in the World.
Thanks for all the help that you have given me this year.Your responses
have been overwhelming.
robert thomin

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memories-good or bad -last forever
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Date:         Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:04:00 CST
Reply-To:     Bill Page <WRP5404@TAMRIGEL.BITNET>
From:         Bill Page <WRP5404@TAMRIGEL.BITNET>
Subject:      Interlibrary Loan

Well, I'm not an Interlibrary Loan person, but I use the service
here at Texas A&M a lot, and will pass on what my experiences
have been.

First, most libraries which borrow books a lot have their own
"favorite" libraries to borrow from.  This tends to be based on
speed of response, absence of fees, etc.

Second, many of the largest research libraries, especially those
at Ivy League schools, either won't loan their materials at all,
or they will, but will charge a pretty steep fee (anywhere from $
10 to $ 25 or more per book).  If they didn't do this, an awful
lot of libraries would just routinely go to the biggest libraries
first when looking for materials.

Third, sometimes when libraries won't loan books, they will
furnish copies of the indexes.  While we all know just how bad
indexes can be, this sometimes allows you to then request
photocopies of just the pages you need.

Fourth, in other cases, I've had fairly good luck specifying that
I need copies of all pages mentioning the Whitten family (or
whatever).  Getting copies can become quite expensive -- I've
sometimes spent a lot of money to get photocopies which were
completely useless.  Still, it's cheaper than traveling.

Fifth, some Interlibrary loan workers are extremely literal -- if
you ask for the 1932 printing of a book, that's all they'll try
to borrow.  However, you may be perfectly happy with any edition
of the book.  If any edition of a book will serve, include that
ever been reprinted).

Sixth, some libraries will microfilm books for you, even when
they won't loan the book or make photocopies.  This service tends
to be expensive and slow, and most libraries won't do if for any
book which may still be covered by copyright.

Last, libraries are facing catastrophic budget problems.  The
average cost for magazines, for example, is increasing by 15-25%
per year.  (That's right, per year).  Most libraries are having
to make do on overall budget increases of no more than 5 % per
year.  This presents a great many problems for all library users,
but one of its implications is that more and more researchers are
going to have to wait for libraries to borrow materials.  In
other words, learn to love Interlibrary Loan -- you'll be using
it more and more as time goes by.

I hope everyone has happy holidays, and that family gatherings
unearth new clues for everyone.

Bill Page
208 Dellwood St.
Bryan, Texas 77801
wrp5404@tamvm1.bitnet
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Date:         Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:06:37 EST
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From: Ed Venzke
*** Resending note of 12/18/92 13:57

Sorry to hear that some of you are having problems with FirstSearch.  I got
on and did a bunch of searches and it never threw me out, but it did
give me some good references.  Thanks for the info Dan, I'd buy you a
Point, but I moved out of state a few months ago.
-Ed Venzke

Searching: VENZKE, GEIS, DOWNIE, CHRISTIANSEN, JAEGER, PORSCH, HIRSCH,
SMITH, NAGEL, MCCABE, and HERBIG. Basically all in WI since mid-1800's.
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Date:         Fri, 11 Dec 1992 11:57:49 -0800
Reply-To:     Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
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              lisanne@CARSON.U.WASHINGTON.EDU
From:         Lisa Oberg <lisanne@U.WASHINGTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Genealogy Meeting, Natick, MA
Comments: To: Bob Oliphant <oliphant@BBN.COM>
Comments: cc: Multiple recipients of list ROOTS-L
          <ROOTS-L%NDSUVM1.BITNET@uwavm.u.washington.edu>

If anyone plans on attending this program tomorrow afternoon [and doesn't
mind summarizing for the list] I would be interested in hearing about what
the majors causes of death were and any interesting tidbits that are
discussed.

THANKS!!

Lisa Oberg
lisanne@u.washington.edu

On Wed, 9 Dec 1992, Bob Oliphant wrote:

> MIDDLESEX CHAPTER, MASSACHUSETTS SOCIETY OF GENEALOGISTS
>
> Program and Business Meeting
>
> Topic:          "Causes of Death in the 19th Century"
>
> Speaker:        Peter H. Viles, MD
>
> Date:           Saturday, December 12, 1992     1:30 pm
>
> Place:          Eliot Hall, Walnut Hill School*
>                 12 Highland St., Natick
Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: davego@halcyon.com (Dave Oliphant)
Subject: Re: Very confusing months !
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 10:04:13 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.000345.7775@nuscc.nus.sg> hiscrp@nuscc.nus.sg (C R Pennell) writes:
>RIGAUT@FRURBB51.BITNET writes:
>: RE:  Dates, etc.
>: 
>: I think that this might be useful for some of you who might have to read old
>: French documents (up to 19th C, sometimes even early 20th C).
>: 
>: In manuscript documents (even official records), one often finds months
>: expressed in the following way, e.g. :
>: 
>:  7bre   =   VIIbre          =     septembre     =     September
>:  8bre   =   VIIIbre         =     octobre       =     October
>:  9bre   =   IXbre           =     novembre      =     November
>: 10bre   =   Xbre            =     de'cembre     =     December
>: 
>: This can be quite confusing if you're not used to it, especially if you have no
>: knowledge of Latin, e.g. 10bre could be mistaken as being the 10th month of the
>: year, whereas it is the 12th !
>i
>	The Spanish do this too - looks the same becasue spanish months
>end in - bre
>. Viz: septiembre, octubre etc.
>
>Richard Pennell

I just recently finished going through two microfilms at the local
Family History Library from the town of Carlie in North England, present
day county of Cumbria (Cumberland).  There were frequent notations of
the style "7ber", "8ber", "9ber", and "10ber".  At first this threw me,
but after a while I was able to figure it out.  Thanks for the info
above.  It makes me fell better.


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From: rikv@rikv.mentorg.com (Rik Vigeland)
Subject: Re: PAF tricks
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:46:32 GMT
Organization: mentor
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

In article <1992Dec16.162359.10331@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, jlc5f@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jean L. Cooper) writes:
|> Do you have any fix for the problem of PAF not allowing
|> children to be affixed to an "unmarried" female?  I would 
|> appreciate any tips you can give me.  Thanks.
|> --
|> Jean L. Cooper    (BITNET: JLC5F@virginia.edu   CIS: 70253,1114)
|> "The true University of these days is a Collection of Books." 
|>                                            --Carlyle

Jean, When you are in the family records section of PAF, section 4
(Pedigree Search), call up the individual child that you want to 
assign the unmarried mother to.  You can add this individual ahead
of time if the person is not already in.  No connections to other 
individuals is required.  Then, press A(dd) M(other).  This is 
basically the reverse of adding a child, and allows you to add father
or mother or both.  When you add the first parent, it assigns a marriage
record number (MRIN) and when you add the scond parent, a marriage between
them is automatically created.  You can add marriage details, if any,
later.  I do in fact spend most of my time in the Pedigree Search area
of PAF, instead of Add Records, so that I can easily jump around and look
at information, then add data when I need to from there.

Rik Vigeland
rikv@mgc.mentorg.com
Prodigy KTFF04A

                        
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Date:         Thu, 17 Dec 1992 10:18:33 PST
Reply-To:     "Mike Holland Digital Equip. Corp. Colorado Springs,
              Co. 17-Dec-1992 1112" <holland@CX3COM.ENET.DEC.COM>
From:         "Mike Holland Digital Equip. Corp. Colorado Springs,
              Co. 17-Dec-1992 1112" <holland@CX3COM.ENET.DEC.COM>
Subject:      Heritage Quest Magazine
Comments: To: roots-l@vm1.nodak.edu

Hello fellow rooters:

Does anyone in this group have the address of Heritage Quest magazine
and the subscription rates.
Thanks

Mike
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Wednesday, 16 Dec 1992 18:12:12 MST
From: Dan Wilson <ATDYW@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Grover/Torry Inquiry

Whoever is researching GROVER, I may have information of interest for you.
I'm researching GROVER in Copperstown, NY --> Worcester, MASS --> Anaheim, CA
in the 1800s. Some names: ALMON B. GROVER, SIDNEY MARSHALL GROVER, CHARLOTTE
STOL (or STAHL).

Dan Wilson
From: lincoln@rand.org (Tom Lincoln)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Re: Masters, Bowman, Lewis, Woody, Peterson
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:00:35 GMT
Organization: RAND

In article <2B2EB7C9@router.em.cdc.gov> SLR2@CCDDCD1.EM.CDC.GOV writes:
>SEEKING FURTHER INFORMATION ON SURNAMES:  MASTERS, BOWMAN, LEWIS, WOODY,
>PETERSON.  Geographic area of focus is Washington County, Tennessee, and
>Mitchell County, North Carolina, during late 1700's to present.
>
>...  Hannah was
>the daughter of Elder Jacob Bowman, another Pennsylvania Dutchman who moved
>via Franklin County, Virginia and East Tennessee, to Burke County in 1797."
>
Well... for now we only have Melvyl...

5.
Author: MacDonald, Helen.
Title:  Jacob and Elizabeth (Keller) Bowman : their descendants / Helen
MacDonald, G. Ralph Bowman. [Hayden Lake, ID] : H. MacDonald,
1984.
Description:    ix, 200 p. : ill. ; 28 cm.

Notes:  Includes index.
Bibliography: p. 169.

Subjects:       Bowman family.
Bowman, Jacob, ca. 1745-1831 -- Family.

Other entries: Bowman, G. Ralph.

Call numbers:   CSL     Sutro   CS71.B789 1984

1.
Author: Holsinger, H. R. (Henry R.), 1833-1905.
Title:  Holsinger's history of the Tunkers and the Brethren Church :
embracing the Church of the Brethren, the Tunkers, the
Seventh-Day German Baptist Church, the German Baptist Church,
the Old German Baptists, and the Brethren Church : including
their origin, doctrine, biography, and literature / by H.R.
Holsinger. North Manchester, Ind. : L.W. Schultz, 1962.
Description:    826 p., [6] p. of plates : ill., ports. ; 23 cm.

Notes:  Reprint. Originally published: Lathrop, Calif. : Printed for the
author by Pacific Press Pub. Co., 1901.
Includes index.

Subjects:       Brethren Church (Progressive Dunkers) -- History.
Church of the Brethren -- History.
Old German Baptist Brethren -- History.

Other entries: History of the Tunkers and the Brethren Church.

Call numbers:   UCSB    Library BX7829.B63 H64 1962

Otherwise, it seems to me taht you just have a lot of old fashioned
genealogical digging to do...

Tom
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Subject: Re: FAQ/ALLEN requests
From: jshuman@koko.csustan.edu (Jeremy Shuman)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 05:50:44 GMT
Organization: CSU Stanislaus

I, too, am a new user of this group, and
would appreciate seeing a FAQ sheet.
Thanks in advance.

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From: kronberg@garnet.berkeley.edu (Frank Kronberg)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: HOCHBERG family PLESS SILESIA
Keywords: von Hochberg family, Kitzold de Hoberg (1312), Pszczyna [Pless], Walbrzych [Waldenburg], Ksiaz [Furstenstein], Poland, Silesia, M.T.O (Daisy) Cornwallis-West (author 3 books)
Date: 12 Dec 92 14:32:54 GMT


I'm interested in English language sources that mention any 
of the above people and/or places.  Also, any information on
present members of the Hochberg family.  Collaterals include
Westministers, Churchills, Fermoys--I'm not interested in these
families, other than their connections to the Hochbergs.

London Times obit (M.T.O. [Cornwallis-West] Pless) (~1942):

"Her third and youngest son, Count Bolko von Hochberg, died in
June, 1936, after imprisonment in Germany."


Any suggestions or citations/references will be appreciated.

Frank Kronberg  (kronberg@garnet.berkeley.edu)


Frank Alexander Kronberg	Center for Extreme Ultraviolet Astrophysics
kronberg@cea.berkeley.edu	University of California  Berkeley CA 94720
kronberg@garnet.berkeley.edu	EUVE launched by NASA 7 June 1992
kronberg@well.sf.ca.us		4 Telescopes Map 70-912 Angstroms
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From: joan@stein.u.washington.edu (Joan Bishop)
Subject: Orlando Stoddard and CA Prospecting
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:40:46 GMT

We have contacted the Borax company, but they have some 300+ transcripts
and have searched 100 and haven't found anything and probably will not
continue searching.

I would appreciate any clues.  I have come to a dead end trying to find
out information on their brother John Stoddard who is buried in Parma
Union Cemetary as he died in a VA hospital and we are trying to get the
records released from WA, DC. military death records.

Joan (Wallace)Bishop
University of Washington
Seattle, Washington
joan@u.washington.edu

Newsgroups: soc.roots
From: barrus@cod.nosc.mil
Subject: re: wow! (Re: FirstSearch) (IP address????)
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:36:09 GMT


In article <ROOTS-L%92121713333476@VM1.NODAK.EDU>     MCBRAYER@SMC.BITNET writes:
>>        OCLC's WorldCat FirstSearch is available to the public for a trial
>>period (I don't know how long).  You must be able to telnet.  The address is:
>>etc....
>

I must have missed this original post.  Could someone repost or email me this 
IP address for FirstSearch?  Thanks,

barrus@cod.nosc.mil

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From: achristo@pons.uio.no (Alf Christophersen)
Subject: Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
Organization: University of Oslo
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:19:28 GMT


Since I'm leaving for home in a very few hours (about 240 km away
from Oslo, Norway), I will use this opportunity to wish all
readers of Roots-L and soc.roots a


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And a Happy New Year.

Alf Christophersen
Roots-L list owner
From: Steve.Hayes@p5.f22.n7101.z5.fidonet.org (Steve Hayes)
Newsgroups: soc.roots
Subject: Very confusing months !
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:27:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 5:7101/22.5 - Novell User Group, Pretoria RSA

On <13 Dec 1992 10:32> RIGAUT@FRURBB51.BITNET (5:7104/2) said to All :

 RB>In manuscript documents (even official records), one often 
 RB>finds months
 RB>expressed in the following way, e.g. :
 RB>
 RB> 7bre   =   VIIbre          =     septembre     =     September
 RB> 8bre   =   VIIIbre         =     octobre       =     October
 RB> 9bre   =   IXbre           =     novembre      =     November
 RB>10bre   =   Xbre            =     de'cembre     =     December
 RB>
 RB>This can be quite confusing if you're not used to it, 
 RB>especially if you have no
 RB>knowledge of Latin, e.g. 10bre could be mistaken as being the 
 RB>10th month of the
 RB>year, whereas it is the 12th !

That also happened in old documents in English, where September was sometimes 
abbreviated at 7ber, October as 8ber etc. 

Before the Gregorian calendar was adopted in the UK, the year began on March 
25, and that date is still (as far as I know) used for income tax returns 
(April 6, Gregorian).




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From: margaret@sfu.ca (Margaret Sharon)
Subject: BEVERLEY, LIN(D)FIELD, McCULLY/McCULLIE, NEWMAN, SUTTON
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:20:23 GMT

In the June 1992 issue (vol 22 no 2) of "Descent" (Society for Australian  
Genealogists, 120 Kent Street, Sydney NSW 2000) I found these one-name study  
groups.  Hope this info is useful to someone out there ...

BEVERLEY: one name study, seeking info on any Beverley surname with variants &  
descendants from UK, USA, NZ & AUS. (Mrs A.A. Baxter, 9 Wendouree St, Busby  
NSW 2168)

LINDFIELD/LINFIELD Study Group: This new group has been registered with the  
Guild of One-Name Studies, and seeks contact with anyone interested in  
researching this name worldwide. A database of 3500 names is already held, and  
work is underway on the first newsletter with a book on the family name  
planned. Further details can be obtained by writing to Mr Alan Lindfield,  
Southview, Maplehurst, Horsham, West Sussex RH13 6QY England.

McCULLY, McCULLEY, McCULLIE, MacCULLY: Seeking info worldwide on those of this  
surname. Approx 7000 entries from IGI, St Cath's & other indexes already on  
database. Will send printout of info received, adding any relevant data on  
record, to all writers. (Mr Jim McCully, 50 Erris St, Johnsonville, Wellington  
4, NZ)

NEWMAN Name Society: Ms Carolyn Hayes has advised of the formation of the  
Newman Name Society. The Society produces four newsletters per year and  
maintains a register of all known Newmans. The Society does not actually  
undertake research on behalf of its members, but it does collect and catalogue  
research data which is accessible to members on an "at cost" basis. Current  
membership fees are $11.00 which may be paid to Mrs Sandra Beckett, PO Box  
381, Hastings, Victoria 3915. General enquires should be directed to Mr Tony  
Newman, 155 Laverock Ave, Richmond Hill, Ontario, Canada L4C 4K1. 

SUTTON Surname: Mr Jim Sutton, 681 Triunfo Canyon Road, Westlake Village,  
California 91361-2056 USA, has forwarded details of "Sutton Searchers," a  
newsletter for Sutton families throughout the world. A subscription to the  
quarterly newsletter costs US$12 per year. Direct enquiries to Mr Sutton at  
the above address. 

[Note by MMS: My Suttons are from Glasnamullen, Co Wicklow, Ireland. The other  
four names aren't in my tree (at least, not that I know of!)]

--
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