HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jkscott@eos.ncsu.edu (JENNIFER KAYE SCOTT)
Subject: Re: info needed
Keywords: info needed
Organization: NCSU anti-gaming world
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:51:36 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.223143.20970@dragon.acadiau.ca> 890554h@dragon.acadiau.ca (Andrew Hoogerwerf) writes:
>Is there any way to telnet with out anyone else of the network knowing
>If so could you please give me a full adrreses of some good muds
>if its not to much trouble.
>
>-- 
>----------------------------------------------------------------------
>Andrew Hoogerwerf               890554@dragon.acadiau.ca
>196 Skyway apt 10
>542-5339


There may be a way to do this, but I seriously doubt it...
The best way would be to find some nice sysadmin out there (HINT HINT)
that would let you have an account on their system. (HINT HINT) :-)

Later

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Newsgroups: alt.mud
From: sedmanra@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Richard Sedman)
Subject: GodNet
Organization: Aston University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:46:22 GMT

What's happened to GodNet ?


I've been unable to connect since before the summer vacation (got a connection
refused) and now when I've just tried it another Moo was there.....


Has it been killed or just changed...?

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From: oquendvh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Victor H. Oquendo)
Newsgroups: alt.mud
Subject: Re: Mud Research I hate people like this
Date: 10 Nov 1992 06:46:06 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: oquendvh@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (Victor H. Oquendo)
NNTP-Posting-Host: l130c6.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <cosulliv.720656118@sfu.ca> cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina  
Marie O'Sullivan) writes:
> Hi there!  My name is Christina O'Sullivan, and I'm a communications  
student at Simon Fraser University.  My learning-circle work group is  
researching the topic of muds, and we would like to hear from the  
following people:
> 
> 1) students/participants of MUDS: What are your reasons/motivations for  
entering Muds, Muses, mucks, Mushs etc.  Are you addicted to them?
>I was going to answere the survey but I became offended after the first  
question and quit.  Why does everyone in the whole world think that anyone  
who muds is addicted.  I play basketball, football, and any other sport  
you want to mention.  I am you normal every day guy.  I enjoy playing muds  
because they are relaxing.  You can loose yourself in a fantasy world and  
take out you frustrations by beating the H..l out of things.  Sometime I  
feel I would crack if i didn't have some way to get away from it all.  So  
it you want to talk to mudders I suggest in the future you avoid talking  
about being addicted.  Muds take a long time to play it isn't a five  
minute deal..  If it takes me two year to read all of the Stephen King  
novels am I addicted to reading.. Oh my God!!!!  A person who reads.   
Strike him down before the begger lives!!! help help help
Get a grip people all hobbies are an addiction or you wouldn't do them.
You just find it wierd if people use computers.  Only the ignorant are  
afraid and you can quote me on that one.
Find out for yourself.
Play one its fun.

The Flaming Mudder

The Social Sophomore
 
>
Newsgroups: alt.boomerang
From: jws@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Jim Scott)
Subject: Re: looking for manufacturers
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:24:38 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NARC Atlanta

Heres a few phone numbers.

The Boomerang Man   (318) 325-8157

Rhue-Rangs (202) 234-9208

Leading Edge  (614) 363-8332

Turning Point  (802) 765-4006

Colorado Boomerangs  (303) 641-3539

This is by no means a compete list, just some of my favorites.

Jim
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.boomerang
Subject: Roomarang
Date: 12 Nov 92 09:35:53 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

I was in our local juggling shop yesterday and spotted a soft 4 blader made 
of something similar to those firetrap ceiling tiles, about 7 inch diameter.
Does that really work?  I said.
Helen demonstrated: a quick circle about 6 foot diameter, hence the name 
Roomarang - it can be flown in a room.  I'd buy one, but I don't think it 
would survive the cat for more than 5 minutes.
As it's soft, I guess it can be tuned by judicious bending.
If you want an indoor 'rang, this could be the one for you.

        Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty

  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033  
  D.Budd@mcc.ac.uk                                          fax 6040
From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.boomerang
Subject: RANGS range of 'rangs available in UK
Date: 5 Nov 92 13:43:59 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

The Aussie-made RANGS range of 'rangs is available from my local juggling 
shop, The Mushy Pea, Corn Exchange, Manchester, UK
Includes traditional style booms in various sizes and several modern style 
types.


  You don't have to work to be mad here      email: d.budd@mcc.ac.uk
  Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England   (44|0)61-275-6033  
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot
From: dtiberio@libws3.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: UNITED WE STAND MASCOT ISSUE
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 23:40:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.145020.2080@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>The Democrats have the 'ass'  B^) (sorry, couldn't resist that) while
>the Republicans have the lumbering elephant.  OK...

>Another mascot idea comes to mind...the bull dog...or better yet, the
>yard dog mut.  One that barks and growls and causes people to wake up
>and listen.  One that sounds the alarm when something isn't right.

	United we stand, divided we fall. I believe this old fable
had oxen verse the lion, so we should choose the ox, as they were
well protected when they stood united. And of course eventually all got
eaten when they bickered with each other... :)


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PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT PEROT
    "I don't have any experience in running up a 4 trillion dollar debt."
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot
From: trevor@telesoft.com (Trevor Bourget @ignite)
Subject: Re: How we lost
Organization: TeleSoft, San Diego, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 04:57:00 GMT

In <1992Nov4.160642.8969@sequent.com>
jwk@sequent.com (John "Just Say Noe" Kramer) writes:

>or maybe the American public aren't as manipulative as Perot thought they
>were.

Maybe you meant "manipulable" or "gullible" but didn't have the education
to catch the stupid mistake in the middle of your childish insult.  In any
case, most of those who voted for Perot were neither of the above -- Clinton
got all the votes from the gullible (by the way, did you know that word isn't
even in the dictionary?).

>It's been fun you people :-)

It's a shame I missed all your convincing pre-election articles.  They
might have tempted me to vote for Bush.

-- Trevor Bourget (trevor@telesoft.com)
From: cermak@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Rob Cermak)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot
Subject: STATUS UPDATE/United We Stand/Perot '92
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:54:42 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Perot & Swindle are currently with the Legal Department to register
the UNITED WE STAND organization as a self-supporting organization.

YES- the saga continues.

They are going to regroup in another location and will not
have a permanant mailing address until 6+ weeks from now.

BUT!  To get information on the status of United We Stand, a
newsletter mailing list sign-up is CURRENTLY happening.

CALL 1-800-685-7777 and put your name on the list!  They will
send a newsletter when one becomes available.   All the local
co-ordinators should call and put your address in to stay in
contact.

IF THE PHONE IS BUSY, TRY AGAIN LATER.   WORK THOSE PHONES UNTIL
YOU HEAR...BOO BO BUP, We're sorry but that number has been disconnected!

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Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.elections
From: jwk@sequent.com (John "Just Say Noe" Kramer)
Subject: Re: Clinton
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 23:02:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.202119.22042@news.acns.nwu.edu> ssc@nwu.edu (Steven Chung) writes:
>In article <1992Nov5.172111.15339@sequent.com> jwk@sequent.com (John "Just Say Noe" Kramer) writes:
># In article <1992Nov5.035603.11183@news.acns.nwu.edu> ssc@nwu.edu (Steven Chung) writes:
># >Bzzzt.  Bush said he was going to vote against the bill, but lost the race.
># >So my statement stands.
># 
># This just shows,
># 
># a) he was a bigot as he intended not to give Civil Rights i.e. equal
>#    protection under law
>
>No, he said afterwards (or before) that he was really for the bill.  I
>think he also said he regretted the campaign promise.

He said it afterwards. What if he did win the race? He would have had a
mandate *not* to support Civil Rights. If he did not go through with that he
would have renaged on an important issue and mis-led his supporters, 
something he always accussed Clinton of.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.clinton
From: greenjb@venus.cs.clemson.edu (Jeffrey B. Green)
Subject: Re: Clinton's mailbox is full now!
Organization: Clemson University Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:40:50 GMT

In article <BxFJI7.779@rice.edu> byrd@lucerne.rice.edu (Marc J Byrd) writes:
>I just tried to email some stuff to Clinton (75300.3115@COMPUSERVE.COM, or
>so I'm told) and guess what:  he doesn't seem to be answering his mail.
>His mailbox is full!
>
>So much for having access.  Evidentally, that was only for the
>campaign.
>
>-OR-  Maybe he's taking a well-deserved break.

	This one, however I'm not sure whether the break is for R&R or
	what. I received a reply from the CompuServe account
	a few days ago. It said that they were going to not respond
	for awhile but would have it up as soon as possible. I
	would post the exact statement except it's on my home
	machine and I'm not (at this moment). If I remember correctly,
	the time frame is on the order of days, however I could be
	mistaken. I'll check tonight.

-- Jeff

J.B.Green (greenjb@cs.clemson.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot
From: jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com  (Jeff Heilner)
Subject: Re: Clinton isn't Carter
Organization: SPS
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:41:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.130328.25689@njitgw.njit.edu> aaron@funcity.njit.edu  
(Aaron Watters) writes:
> It's possible that Clinton won't be reelected, but that will
> be because the mess that Reagan and Bush left will require some
> tough and unpopular medicine that may not pay off within 4 years.


WOW! 
I was wondering how long it would be before this excuse surfaced. 
But, I never though it would be BEFORE Clinton even took office! 

;)

- j


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Motorola SPS - Tempe, Arizona     | read this, the US national
jeffh@pisces.sps.mot.com (NeXT)   | debt increased by $65,000! 
A'S * SHARKS * WARRIORS * RAIDERS | Don't blame me...I voted PEROT!
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot
From: dtiberio@libws2.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: How to Contact United We Stand
Reply-To: subscribe@xamiga.linet.org
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 16:46:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.040125.27878@wyvern.twuug.com> asoper@wyvern.twuug.com (Aubrey Soper) writes:
>turney@kenyon.edu writes:
>
>>If you are interested in contacting United We Stand to get your name on the
>>mailing list and/or communicate your ideas for the future direction of the
>>organization,
>
>>	Phone:	1-800-685-7777
>
>>	Mail:  	United We Stand
>>		6066 LBJ Freeway
>>		Suite 150
>>		Dallas, Texas  75240
>
>No computers, no e-mail? 

	I was told that they had about three calls in the past 5 months inquiring
about the internet. They said they upload all speech and debate transcripts to 
Prodigy, or that they were at least available there from someone else within a few hours.
However, if you want to join the new United We Stand Mailing List, which includes a
monthly newsletter, send email to:

subscribe@xamiga.linet.org


	And in the body of the mail, write:


#united username@domain;


	For example, H Ross Perot might be:

#united hrperot@eds.com;


	Then you will be automatically added to the mail list. You may even receive a
welcome message automatically, but I am still working on that part. :)

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    "I don't have any experience in running up a 4 trillion dollar debt."
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From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Clinton
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:18:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA

ssc@nwu.edu (Steven Chung) writes:

>In article <1992Nov5.020543.4009@sequent.com> jwk@sequent.com (John "Just Say Noe" Kramer) writes:
># 
># Just as well, as he's a proven liar. Is this the same GHWB that voted
># against Civil Rights in the 60's?

>Bzzzt.  Bush said he was going to vote against the bill, but lost the race.
>So my statement stands.

>Besides, this was before Clinton dodged the draft, smoked pot, and
>organized overseas demonstrations--30 years ago doesn't matter.

I wouldn't say that.  In fact, I have a great deal more respect for a
pot-smoking draft-dodging antiwar demonstrator than for somebody who
would vote against civil rights.  I think the draft and the Vietnam
War were wrong, and I don't give a darn whether somebody smokes pot or
not, but I believe VERY strongly in civil rights.

So, in fact, 30 years ago matters very much to me, and I still respect
Clinton much more than Bush.

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
From: bentrup@cs.uiuc.edu (John Bentrup)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot
Subject: Re: Electoral College
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:21:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL


Does someone have either the Maine or the Nebraska law on-line
that specifies how the electoral votes will be divided?

Thanks.


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Department of Computer Science              BITNET: bentrup%uiucdcs.BITNET
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
1304 W Springfield Ave
From: emmett@kpc.com (Emmett Kilgariff)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot
Subject: Re: UNITED WE STAND MASCOT ISSUE
Date: 12 Nov 92 17:40:13 GMT
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

How about a Mr. Pototo Head? If you use a near-spherical Potato, it'd probably
resemble Perot pretty closely.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot
From: cobarruvias@asd2.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Internet and the Prez
Organization: NASA/JSC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:33:13 GMT

In article <1db5nmINNish@gilligan.East.Sun.COM> mike@gilligan.East.Sun.COM
(Mike Roncadori) writes:
>With all the talk about staying involved, etc., don't you
>think it would be wise to perhaps ask the Clinton admini-
>stration to stay in touch with the internet community?
>

I think this is a great idea, but how do we start this?

>After all, there is a very large cross-section of people
>out here, from commercial, educational, research, etc.,
>organizations. I would think that if this administration
>truly wants to be accessible, they should dedicate the
>manpower to keeping up with the concerns and desires ex-
>pressed on these newsgroups. Perhaps some sort of a news-
>group digest that outlines concerns expressed here could
>be given to congress, and they would truly have their fin-
>ger on the pulse of the people.
>
>I would like to see something like the following, for example:
>
>us.gov.announce.appts	- Appointments by the Pres, etc.
>us.gov.announce.senate	- Bills currently on the Senate Floor
>us.gov.announce.house	- Bills currently on the House Floor
>us.gov.votes.senate	- Voting records for the Senate
>us.gov.votes.house	- Same, for the House
>us.gov.bills.pres	- Bills passed, and on the President's desk
>us.gov.bills.status	- Same, but what he has signed/vetoed
>us.gov.questions	- Questions from John Doe about bills
>us.gov.answers		- Digest of answers to questions
>us.gov.concerns		- Opinions about bills, general concerns
>us.gov.replies		- Digest of answers to concerns
>
>I believe that while it is our responsibility to monitor
>our government, it is at the same time our government's
>responsibility to make that monitoring and expression of
>concerns easier for us. This process has not inproved
>much in my recent memory, and there are alot of things
>that could be done to expedite it.
>
>I'm sure that if the right people were made aware of the
>government's willingness (provided it is willing), the nec-
>essary resources would likely be donated (machines, modems,
>uunet subscription, ...). I would donate my time for install-
>ation/configuration/training, and I'm sure others would, as
>well.
>
>I think that if enough people say that access to our government
>should be brought into line with current technology, then there
>is no way that it can be refused, politically speaking. The ben-
>efits would far outweigh any costs associated with such an und-
>ertaking.
>
>What do you all think?
>
>-- Mike
>
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>



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From: joltman@doctor-pepper.ai.mit.edu (T. Andy Frakes)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Ross Perot is the only true choice for change
Date: 9 Nov 1992 14:55:13 GMT
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Lab
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: doctor-pepper.ai.mit.edu

In article <1de7m9INN3v0@SUNED.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU>, jovanovic-nick@cs.yale.edu (Nick Jovanovic) writes:
|> In article <1de3aqINNb48@life.ai.mit.edu> joltman@doctor-pepper.ai.mit.edu (T. Andy Frakes) writes:
|> >Why, specifically, is treating the government like a business
|> >dangerous?  Obviously, you can't turn it into a real business in
|> >every sense, but you can take a business approach to it.  Using
|> >that philosophy should make it more efficient.
|>  
|> Well, since the vast majority of businesses *fail* rather quickly and
|> either cease to exist or restrucure under bankruptcy, I don't see why
|> using a business model for government is of much use.

A lot of them fail because of lack of funds.  It is difficult for
a very small, young businesses to compete with much larger ones
without a very good/new idea or strategy.  The government doesn't
have the problem of lack of funds.  My simple point is to add more
incentives for government to do a good job.

|> Businesses are *not* up to their ears in debt????  Businesses are also
|> wasting capital on debt service in a big way.  And another thing, perqs
|> in business are a *lot* worse than they are in government.  Take a look
|> at the furniture, artwork, and carpet in your bank (not to mention the
|> salaries for executives).  Private businesses are wasting our money on
|> these perqs, instead of giving us lower prices, higher returns, or
|> better service.  Having worked in both private and government settings,
|> I have seen vastly more waste in private business than I have in 
|> government.  
|> 
|> -Nick Jovanovic
|> 

The difference is that businesses make cutbacks when they need to. 
If they decide to borrow more money in the hopes that they can turn
their situation around, they are held responsible for that loan and
if they can't pay it back, they feel the impact.  Our government is
not held responsible for the loans.  The taxpayers are responsible
for paying it back.

If you say you've seen vastly more waste in private business that in
government, I don't know how that private business stays in business.
When times are good for business, you can afford to have waste and
splurge on unnecessary things just like people do when times are 
good, but you can't continue that pattern when times aren't so good
(like the government is doing now).

-Andy
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From: v042517@stortek.com (Vince Dugar)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot,talk.politics.misc,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Mo Clinton
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:13:25 GMT
Organization: Storage Technology Corp.  Louisville, CO


It occured to me yesterday -- I was watching a lady being interviewed
after coming out of the polling place.  When asked how she made her
choices, she said she used the "eenie meenie miney mo" method.  "Mo"
ended up on Bill Clinton.

So I think we should call him Mo Clinton.

And let's honor the media (the most *powerful* political party) for
it's incessant slant against G Bush and blatant love affair with Bill
C.  It's a shame when so much of America voted the way they were told
to think by the liberal media.

I'm willing to bet that the 5% margin of victory for BC can be
explained as people who voted for this "cross your fingers" candidate
without *any* idea of what they were getting us into.

-- 
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Boulder, Colorado           | Opinions expressed are my own.
Vince_Dugar@stortek.com     | "Wise men still seek Him."
From: emmett@kpc.com (Emmett Kilgariff)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot
Subject: Re: has there ever been a "Perot" in Washington?
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:56:20 GMT
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computer Corporation, Santa Clara, CA

In article <1992Nov4.234827.24107@math.ucla.edu> barry@arnold.math.ucla.edu (Barry Merriman) writes:
>
>A colleague recently challenged me to come up 
>with an example of someone who rose to the top 
>outside of goevernment and then became a great
>elected official. 
>
	How about Corazon Aquino? Just because she
was married to a great politician doesn't automatically
mean she would know how to be a national leader.

There are alot of generals (like Eisenhower) that rose
up outside of democracy (but inside government) and then
became president.

Reagan was just an actor before being Governor of California.
Newsgroups: alt.politics.perot