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From:         Richard Reiner <rreiner@NEXUS.YORKU.CA>
Subject:      Useful macro: save all documents that need saving

A failing of WPWin that has bothered me since I first got it was the
absence of any facility for saving all documents that need saving,
without leaving the program.  The following macro remedies this.
Several people around here have found it very handy, especially when
installed on the button bar.  I hope others find it useful as well.

//  SAVEALL.WCM -- save all docs that need saving.
//  <rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca>  6 April 1992.
//
//  Named documents that have been modified are saved silently, overwriting
//  the previous version on disk; unnamed documents that have been modified
//  are saved via the Save As dialog, so that the user may supply a name.
//
//  At macro termination, the user is returned to whatever document she
//  was editing at invocation.
//

APPLICATION(WP;WPWP;Default;"WPWPCE.WCD")

GetWPData(InitialCurrent;CurrentDocument!)

REPEAT
     DocNext()
     GetWPData(Current;CurrentDocument!)
     GetWPData(Modified;DocumentModified!)
     GetWPData(FName;Name!)
     GetWPData(Path;Path!)
     Name := Path + FName
     IF (Modified)
          IF (FName <> "")
               MacroStatusPrompt(On!; "Saving document: " + Name + ".")
               FileSave(Name; WordPerfect51!; Yes!)
          ELSE
               MacroStatusPrompt(On!; "Saving unnamed document.")
               FileSaveAsDlg()
          ENDIF
     ELSE
          MacroStatusPrompt(On!; Name + " unmodified.")
     ENDIF
UNTIL (Current = InitialCurrent)


--
Richard J. Reiner            rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca            416-538-3947
rreiner@yorkvm1 (rreiner@vm1.yorku.ca)    York University, Toronto, Ontario
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From:         "N. Nahum Goldmann" <ACOUST@BNR.CA>
Subject:      Question
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Dear Sirs:  Who is the owner/moderator of ETHOLOGY?
I'd appreciate if this person would reply me direct.

Greetings and thanks

Nahum Goldmann
<acoust@BNR.CA>
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:28:00 EDT
From:         Jeff Shirton <SHIRTON@MCMASTER.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Canadian national identity

Nicole,

>         My question is, "Anybody know all the words?" If so, please
> post them. I'm sure we'd be blessed by them.
>         Nicole

I think most of us Canadians at least know the first verse, despite the
fact that a couple of the lyrics were changed a few years back.

     O  CANADA
     ----------

O Canada!  Our home and native land,
True patriot love in all thy sons command.
With glowing hearts we see thee rise,
The True North strong and free,
From far and wide, O Canada,
We stand on guard for thee.

Chorus:

God keep our land glorious and free!
O Canada, we stand on guard for thee.
O Canada!  We stand on guard for thee.

(now, let me check the inside of my Gideon NT :-)

O Canada!  Where pines and maples grow,
Great prairies spread and lordly rivers flow.
How dear to us they broad domain,
From East to Western sea,
Thou land of hope for all who toil,
Thou True North strong and free!

(Chorus)

O Canada!  Beneath thy shining skies
May stalwart sons and gentle maidens rise;
To keep thee steadfast thro' the years
From East to Western sea,
Our Fatherland, our Motherland!
Our True North strong and free!

(Chorus)

---------------------------------------------------------

The British national anthem is also considered one of our national emblems:

   GOD SAVE THE QUEEN
   ------------------
(same tune as "Our country, 'Tis of Thee")

God save our gracious Queen,
Long live our noble Queen,
God save the Queen;
Send her victorious,
Happy and glorious,
Long to reign over us,
God save the Queen.

Oh Lord our God arise,
Scatter our enemies,
And make them fall.
Confound their politics
Frustrate their knavish tricks,
On Thee our hopes we fix
Oh save us all.

Thy choicest gifts in store
On her be pleased to pour;
Long may she reign:
May she defend our laws
And ever give us cause
To sing with heart and voice
God save the Queen.

Our loved Dominion bless
With peace and happiness
From shore to shore;
And let our Empire be
United, loyal, free,
True to herself and Thee
For ever more.

-------------------------------------------

Speaking of Canada, somebody once told me how our country was named.  They
decided to put a whole bunch of letters in a hat, and then pick them out
one by one, until they spelled a suitable name.  So it went:

"C", eh?
"N", eh?
"D", eh?

(Despite the fact that I hate the stereotype, I still find it funny  :-)

In Christ,

Jeff Shirton
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 05:24:46 -0500
From:         F_GRIFFITH@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU
Subject:      Catholics and Protestants
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  It has long been my observation, confirmed by the discussions on the
list, that Protestants tend to be overly concerned about Catholic beliefs
that are peripheral (e.g. relating to the Virgin Mary) rather than the
things that are real problems.

  What should you be worried about in the Catholic Church?  Two major
problems:
  The influence of Modernism, at least in the United States (as has been
true of the mainline Protestant denominations).  E.g. there has been a
real attack on the reliability and authority of scripture.
  The growing infiltration of New Age spiritual practices.
I solicit your prayers that the Lord will push back these influences.

  While I hope that I have been of some help in understanding Catholic
beliefs and practices, I even more hope that we will keep in mind that
we have much more in common than separates us.  In times such as these,
I think it especially needful that we join together as brothers and
sisters to stand against negative forces of the secular society that
surrounds us, including the anti-Christian currents that are growing
stronger.

           God bless you,
                         Reynolds
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 09:59:00 EDT
From:         The List Minor <VCHAI@SMITH.BITNET>
Subject:      Abortion, the only option?

Kerry writes:
>Please do not be deceived; except in cases
>where the mother's physical life is directly endangered by the presence of
>the unborn (toxemia, for example), abortion is _never_ the _only_ option.

    My point was, and is:
       Tell _that_ to the women to whom abortion _is_ the _only_ option.


    Vicky
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Subject:      test

this is a test
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From:         Carol Slingo <slingo@CASBAH.ACNS.NWU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Songrette - Friend
              Apr 6, 92 7:54 am

Thank you for some welcome loving words on this list!
Carol Slingo
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:07:00 EST
From:         The Nuzz <V063KC44@UBVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: help with prayer

JoEllen,

j> But there is so much and so many people to pray for--how do I
j> keep track of it all?  Would lists help?  What about a notebook?
j> I'd really be interested in any suggestions that those of you who
j> choose to respond could give me.  Thanks,

        I like the practice of keeping a journal. It keeps you focused
on who you are praying for. It also serves as a reminder of the times
that God has answered prayer; when you look back at the contents of
what your old prayers were.


en agape,
bob
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From:         dr798302 <whchen@CS.NTHU.EDU.TW>
Subject: Re: Prayer Suggestion
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Mary Helgesen wrote:
  Today is the General Election in the United Kingdom.  I suggest to that
everyone offer a prayer that God will englighten British votes to chose
the possible candidates.

I will pray for this. Can you descibe for me a bit about the policies of
the two parties on abortion.  Which leaders among the two leaders behave
more following God's teaching.

Allen Chen
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:21:29 EST
From:         John Ross <ROSSJB@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      StarTrek&Racism

By the way, whoever mentioned racism in conjunction with star trek and
christianity....

Come to think of it, to all racists out there...

I don't know whose bible you are reading, but I am reading Yahweh's and
He seems to be AGAINST racism.
Christ died for the gentiles as well, remember?

John
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 15:19:29 EST
From:         John Ross <ROSSJB@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Scripture refs for masturbation

I always thought the Onan account was a lame scripture in reference
to masturbation.

Just to give you my frame of reference, I think of someone engaging in
self-gratification without a partner when I hear the word "masturbation."

Based on that, masturbation would be morally wrong according to scripture
because it is difficult to engage in such activities without lusting...

I'm sure y'all can get the idea without me going into details, yes?
Good.  Let's not try rationalizing our actions.

John
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 15:10:00 CST
From:         "Darryl (The Other Brother) Johnson" <DJOHNSON@TCUCVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Evolution ...

In my recollection, I have never felt moved to make a
declaration of public admiration for the writings of a list
member.  It has always been done in private.

I read GEN02.RUFF and GEN03.RUFF from the archives, by James
Kiefer, and I was more than a little impressed.
IF they are a collection of the thoughts on evolution of other
people, I am impressed in the editing job done.
IF they are ALL the thoughts of Mr. Kiefer himself, I am over-
whelmed.  They show a conciseness, logic, humor, and clarity that
I have only encountered a few times in my admittedly short life.
While I didn't agree with all the points, I understood the logic
of most of them, and it is a brilliant piece of writing.

I would recommend the GEN01 to GEN07 series VERY highly to everyone,
no matter what your position on evolution might be.  After reading
the abysmally illogical book "Scientific Creationism" by Henry
Morris, the GEN series were a delight to read.  I intend to "order"
very soon the sections I haven't read.

There are hints in the GEN series that Mr. Kiefer is a very rare
individual, and I intend to watch for his infrequent posts with a
more vigilant eye.  His writings reflect a mind that is exceedingly
sharp.  I don't mean to embarass him with unqualified praise, but I
want to demonstrate my full admiration for his GEN writings.

For those who haven't read them, I'm hoping that some of you may be
curious to read what drew me to post a non-quarrelsome message! :-)

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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 12:43:00 EDT
From:         Jeff Shirton <SHIRTON@MCMASTER.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Adolescent sexuality

Bernice,

> Somewhere there is scripture about men "not spilling their seed upon the
> ground"  -----forgive me if the quote is misquoted!

No, you have not misquoted, but unfortunately, I believe that it is being
misused by being taken out of context, in order to try support the sin
of masterbation (admittedly an unclear issue, IMO) or even early withdrawal,
which I would _not_ recommend as a reliable birth control technique.

The passage in question is Gen. 38:8-10 -

        Then Judah said to Onan, "Lie with your brother's wife and
        fulfill your duty to her as a brother-in-law to produce
        offspring for your brother."  But Onan knew that the offspring
        would not be his; so whenever he lay with his brother's wife,
        he spilled his semen on the ground to keep fro producing
        offspring for his brother.  What he did was wicked in the LORD's
        sight; so he put him to death also.

Apparently, Judah was foreshadowing God's Will of the role of the
"kinsman-redeemer", a way of sustaining the line of Israel, which is
laid forth in Deuteronomy 25:5-6 -

        If brothers are living together and one of them dies without
        a son, his widow must not marry outside the family.  Her
        husband's brother shall take her and marry her and fulfill
        the duty of a brother-in-law to her.  The first son that
        she bears shall carry on the name of the dead brother so that
        his name will not be blotted out from Israel.

This passage continues with an "escape clause", which is irrelevant in
this case since Onan accepted his role as brother-in-law by lying with
his brother's wife.

The "kinsman-redeemer" issue also comes up in the book of Ruth, in Ruth 2:20,
when Boaz becomes her kinsman-redeemer after a closer relative declines the
role (Ruth 4:6-8).

So, as I read the passag about Onan spilling his seed, I don't interpret
his death to spilling his seed per se, but disobeying God's will as
revealed through Judah of fulfilling his role as kinsman-redeemer to
give his brother a son to carry on his name, and therefore not "be blotted
out from Israel."

In Christ,
.------------------------v----------------------------------------------------.
| Jeff Shirton           | "Now it is God that has...given us the Spirit as a |
| shirton@McMaster.CA    |  deposit, guaranteeing what is to come."  2Cor.5:5 |
`------------------------^----------------------------------------------------'
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:55:58 EST
From:         Kerry Stephenson <KSTE@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: re-pro-choice

Darryl:

Another thing.  I know this is picky, but what makes you think that the
receiver of the gifts of the 12 days of Christmas did not appreciate
them?  I think you are too influenced by modern interpretations of this
Victorian classic.
                        Love INC,
                                 ---Kerry
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Date:         Fri, 17 Apr 1992 11:29:37 EST
From:         Kerry Stephenson <KSTE@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Easter Basket trivia...
              17 Apr 1992 08:40:00 MDT from <SKLEPZI@SSB1.SAFF.UTAH.EDU>

Steven:

Praise the Lord indeed!  BTW, have you heard the Ray Boltz song about the
crucifixion (the name escapes me at the moment, hope I don't get fired
for my ignorance) where he cries out against whoever has crucified
Christ?  The tag line is "I turned and saw the hammer...in my hand."

Blessed Easter.
               Love INC,
                        ---Kerry
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:04:00 EST
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Subject:      Re: Spiritual and physical death

Jeff Sinatra writes...

>Christ Jesus did not die, because he rose his body from the dead.  His mortal
>body was never alive, and therefore it could have not died.


John 18:32 That the saying of Jesus might be fulfilled, which he spake,
signifying what death he should die.

John 12:33 This he said, signifying what death he should die.

Luke 18:33 And they shall scourge [him], and put him to death: and the third
day he shall rise again.

John 2:22 When therefore he was risen from the dead, his disciples remembered
that he had said this unto them; and they believed the scripture, and the
word which Jesus had said.

John 19:33 But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already,
they brake not his legs:

John 21:14 This is now the third time that Jesus shewed himself to his
disciples, after that he was risen from the dead.

Acts 4:2 Being grieved that they taught the people, and preached through
Jesus the resurrection from the dead.

Acts 4:10 Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by
the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God raised from
the dead, [even] by him doth this man stand here before you whole.

Acts 17:3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and
risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is
Christ.

Acts 25:19 But had certain questions against him of their own superstition,
and of one Jesus, which was dead, whom Paul affirmed to be alive.

Romans 4:24 But for us also, to whom it shall be imputed, if we believe on
him that raised up Jesus our Lord from the dead;

Romans 8:11 But if the Spirit of him that raised up Jesus from the dead dwell
in you, he that raised up Christ from the dead shall also quicken your mortal
bodies by his Spirit that dwelleth in you.

Galatians 1:1 Paul, an apostle, (not of men, neither by man, but by Jesus
Christ, and God the Father, who raised him from the dead;)

1 Thessalonians 1:10 And to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from
the dead, [even] Jesus, which delivered us from the wrath to come.

2 Timothy 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from
the dead according to my gospel:

Hebrews 13:20 Now the God of peace, that brought again from the dead our Lord
Jesus, that great shepherd of the sheep, through the blood of the everlasting
covenant,

Revelation 1:5 And from Jesus Christ, [who is] the faithful witness, [and]
the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth.
Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood,
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From:         Kerry Stephenson <KSTE@PURCCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CScience and the existence of Error
              6 Apr 1992 07:56:00 EST from <BSC92SPA18@RCNVMS.RCN.MASS.EDU>

Jeff:
I think you are reading too much into James.  He is just trying to
deal with problems in the church, many of which stem from gossip
and slander and the willingness of pagan converts to continue in their
ways.  Also, how do you square your poverty argument with James 2:15-17?
"If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, And one
of you say unto them, Depart in peace, be ye warmed and filled;
notwithstanding ye give them no those things which are needful to the
body; what doth it profit?  Even so faith, if it hath not works, is
dead, being alone."

Don't you do the same thing by assuming poverty to be an illusion?
Later.
          Love INC,
                   ---Kerry
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From:         LIZ MOREAU <EMOREAU@UMASSD.BITNET>
Subject:      Prayer Req Update

Just wanted to give an update on a few prayer requests.

My mother-in-law is home from the hospital.  Her asthama is almost
clear, her blood pressure is finally under control and they found a
heart defect that they can control.

My nephew is now having the runs once a day.  It is a wonderful
improvement, but I'd ask you to keep the prayers coming since he now
has a 102 temp.

Another prayer request:

My sister was stabbed today with a needle when she was taking blood on
a patient.  Please pray for her protection from all diseases.

Thanks!

                                                Liz
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 11:00:30 EDT
From:         Andrew Brennan <BRENNAAA@DUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Evolution ...

    (Hey, let's dig out ALL of the old topics for the new people!!)

      Here's a question.  As I haven't spent a lot of time studying
   evolution (or anything for that matter) I am under the impression
   that the evolutionists are primarily focussing on mankind's own
   evolution.  While that is to be expected, have they attempted to
   find evidence of other creatures' evolving?

      If not, it would appear that even they don't take the theory
   too seriously ... *good* evidence for evolution in other areas
   would help their side.

      I am now remembering something about horses' feet ... that's
   all, though.

      andrew.  (brennaaa@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu)
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:40:14 -0800
From:         dr798302 <whchen@CS.NTHU.EDU.TW>

Kim wrote --
----
 I am from a big family and poverty was all that bad ...
----

 I am also from a big and poor family but I can not agree that povertyt poverty
is that bad.  I was born in a south town of Taiwan nearing an airport
that our family often eat together what we collected from that eaten
after the soldiers. As the people here struggle to make Taiwan rich, so
do my family.  But I am always dreaming of the days we eat and sing
together. Poverty is not bad but poverty in sprit is. If the father
abuse his Children it has more to do with his personality than with his
wealth..
 A father's personality can effect his children just like Jesus effect
us.  Similar to you, I am also with sympathy about the babies to grow up
in a familiy where the abortion problem raised.  As in most cases the
conception can be avoided but the occurences has shown that the parents
have an inrespect for life, let alone the intention to destroy it. Even
if unborn were able to survive by the anti-abortion law, they would
finally find that their parentst once plan to kill them unless for the
law.  Law can protect one's life but can not give him love, especially
the children who depends most on their family.  I  wish that those who
raise plans for saving the unborn should continue their work in rasing
plans to help the Children, or someday they might ask 'You save my life
so I can live in this terrible world."

Allen Chen
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