HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush gets nailed on Columbus
Date: 13 Oct 92 14:17:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Oct12.205327.23041@novell.com> bboerner@novdpd.uucp (Brendan B. Boerner) writes:
>Rush got nailed this afternoon.
>
>He had been railing on for a while about the Columbus issue when he
>took a call after a break from a young woman who read from what she
>claimed what Columbus' diary, completely demolishing Rush's argument.
>
>Rush's response was 1) what were the sources for this diary?  She
>responded that it was quoted in a magazine and two different books so
>he falls back to 2) well, this couldn't be true because it was too
>close to what the anti-Columbus' folks had been claiming all along and
>if it was true the dominant media would have picked it up by now
>(perhaps the evidence supported the claims because they were based on
>similar evidence?).  I found this interesting because a) if you find
>evidence to support your arguments against Rush then it's wrong because
>it supports you, and b) the argument that evidence in support of
>"liberal" causes is to be rejected if the "liberal" media does not pick
>it up completely ignores the possibility that the media ISN'T
>necessarily liberal.
>
>After this brilliant line of reasoning was announced, Rush cuts to a
>another break which was oh, about 3-4 minutes after the break he just
>came back from.

I love it - a liberal attacks Rush for ignoring the truth and what he 
doesn't like, and then he ends his argument by claiming that Rush 
cut to a break early. I guess liberals don't mind lying as long as 
they are the ones who do it - I suppose you didn't hear the call 
from Mike from Stratford, who Rush went to after Grace? 

Rush also addressed the young woman's sources by saying he didn't know 
about them, but that he couldn't help but feel that it they were genuine
then the major media would have picked up on them. His sceptism is justified
since it's already been shown that many "first hand accounts" like "Brother Sun,
Sister Moon" are fictitious. 
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From: detrolio@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David De Trolio)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Bob Dornan on Bill Clinton - IMPORTANT
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:45:45 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions) writes:

>>     Is this the individual the American people should send to
>>The White House?

>ABSOLUTELY!!

Explain why?


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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
From: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla)
Subject: Re: Walking down to the student center last night
Organization: Rescorla for himself.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:02:06 GMT

In article <BvvD98.A1w@nic.umass.edu> csulaima@titan.ucc.umass.edu (CYNTHIA R SULAIMAN) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.221124.27909@news.yale.edu> rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla) writes:
>>Why? It IS a parasite. It's living off the woman in who's body it
>>is living. It is damaging her body and giving her nothing  if she does
>Uh, Eric, "damaging"???  Changing, certainly, but damaging?
>
>To what are you referring?
Depends how you feel about stretch marks, varicose veins, etc....
From what I hear, pregnancy is often very stressful physically.

-Ekr


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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl)
Subject: Re: Rush Insensitive to human suffering
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:46:15 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <nate.701@psygate.psych.indiana.edu>, nate@psygate.psych.indiana.edu (Nathan Engle) writes:
|> jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:
|> >Rush Limbaugh:  You are an insensitive, hate-monger.
|> 
|>     You should be careful here. Rush would probably consider it flattering 
|> to be referred to as "insensitive".
|> 
|> >Making fun of the homeless.  What a man!!
|> 
|>     Rush has occasionally made fun of individual homeless persons, and he's 
|> frequently made fun of "Homeless Advocates". I don't think that he makes 
|> fun of all homeless people in general, but I can see how you might jump to 
|> that conclusion. I've found that in order to refute Rush it's necessary to 
|> listen to him very carefully. It doesn't help to refute something if Rush 
|> didn't actually say it.

Yes, but Rush sits up there and claims to be this
great person who has all the answers.  When has
RL ever proposed anything to make some problem
better.  He is nothing more than a glorified
critic.  Don't give him more credit than he
deserves.  At least the advocate are trying to
accomplish something.

|> 
|> >Making fun of native americans.  What a humorist!!
|> >Making fun of people with AIDS.  What a celebrity!!
|> 
|>     I don't think I've ever heard Rush make fun of people with AIDS as a 
|> group; as usual, he concentrates his attention on individuals and leaders 
|> whose message offends him. He's certainly made fun of ACT UP, and Magic 
|> Johnson, however I really think that his intent is to attack their policies 
|> rather than their persons. Too bad his intent sometimes strays from what he 
|> actually does.

I don't care what Rush's intentions are.  His
criticisms are carefully worded to attack a
group of "advocates", and are always easily 
applicable to the group the advocates are 
defending.


Jared Dahl
Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion,alt.abortion.inequity
From: drieux@wetware.com (drieux, just drieux)
Subject: Interesting Literary World You live in...
Organization: Castle WetWare Philosopher and Sniper
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 23:37:12 GMT

sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
] In article <1992Oct12.181224.21287@novell.com> bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner) writes:
] >In article <1992Oct12.040509.9447@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
] >>Well, I plan to depict the riot police being fully armed, and using
] >>white posphorus instead of tear gas.  Now, since in my story assulting
] >>police officers, especially pulling guns on them, would be a capital offense,
] >>those who escaped would either face on the spot execution,or the death penalty
] >>after trial.  f course, this would all be televised, to make examples of the
] >
] >I suppose that in your world, defending yourself against a police
] >assault would also be an "assault".  How convenient.
] >
] Well, actually since those attacked are criminals, this would not be
] a police assult, it would be an arrest operation.

AH, thank you for clarifying the point....

silly me, I thought you had meant 'police action' like as
in vietnam, with Search and Destroy Missions, Free Fire Zones
and the regular effort to root out the Infrastructure.

] You seem worried about this, even though it's only fiction.
] I was inspired by the works of Eric Blair and Ray Bradbury.

Funny that....

All these Years I had thought they were AntiFascists....

ciao
drieux

ps: do you wish to address the 'I didn't say anything about police'
comment... or is that a NonOperableTruth Now, and should be 
submitted to the Memory Hole....


-- 
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Don't Just Rock the Vote
Kick OUT THE JAMS!
From: session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Bob Dornan on Bill Clinton - IMPORTANT
Date: 9 Oct 92 01:01:25 GMT
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington

kgirodias@azcc.arizona.edu writes:

>>>     This is the same Bill Clinton who, while at Oxford, sought
>>>information on either obtaining dual citizenship or obtaining
>>>British citizenship.
>> 
>> There is absolutely no proof of these charges whatsoever. And Monday night
>> on live TV, Clinton denied the allegations.
>
>I can't say whether these are valid charges or not. I will say that based
>on Clintons comments and behavior in the past, it doesn't mean a thing when
>Clinton denies charges. My big problem with Clinton as I have stated in the
>past is I can trust him to tell the truth or even a half truth. Bill did you
>ever get a draft notice????

The allegations of possible inpropriaties on Clinton's trip to Moscow are
absurd. He was doing nothing that most Rhodes Scholars did during their
time off. A Federal Judge for 9 years in the Reagan/Bush administration was
a fellow Rhodes Scholar with Clinton and travelled to Moscow himself.

As far as waffling goes, for the most part, Clinton has had to refine his
position after learning more facts involved, case in point, NAFTA. As far
as the draft issue, many people don't remember what happened from day to day
over 20 years ago. When confronted with official records on things Clinton
had forgotten about, he didn't attempt to deny them.

People put down Clinton to admitting to trying marijuana by ridiculing his
claim that he "didn't inhale". Many first time tryers were only falling under
peer pressure and didn't inhale either. And in Clinton's case, it was hard
for him as he was not a smoker and had severe allergy problems (and still does).

-- 
Zack Sessions
sessions@seq.uncwil.edu
University of North Carolina at Wilmington
"Good health is merely the slowest form of dying."
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From: garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.activism.d,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc,talk.abortion
Subject: health care
Date: 8 Oct 92 15:24:18 GMT
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc
Distribution: usa
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1992Oct6.165152.18989@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:

#This is patently false.  87% of americans have comprehensive health 
#care plans.  In addition, there are infertile couples waiting in line 
#to pay for th[text deleted]

Can anyone document the statement that "87% of Americans have
comprehensive health care plans"?  

Susan
From: grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Ultraconservatism in the US today
Date: 11 Oct 92 01:18:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Bradley University

In <8atdw9x@Unify.Com> tsv@dbrus.Unify.Com (Tim Vannaman) writes:

>[stuff deleted]

>>    Our only chance to save the country, is to end social programs,
>> end tarriffs, tighten our belts and pay off the debt. Yes it would cause a 
>> recession, but like the Russians, we have become used to the government 
>> providing for us instead of ourselves.
>>
>>     A frightened conservative.

>Good 'ole FDR is the one who started the use of mass social programs (a demo).
>What's funny is that he started many programs that had started ealier in Nazi
>Germany.  Don't get me wrong, some of the programs  he started did some good,
>I think what happened is the war started and the  economy picked up again and
>it made his programs look better then they actually were. (the war is what 
>jump started the economy).

>I'd like to king for a week and go thru Washington and weed out all the
>corruption.

Wouldn't we all?

__
"Death needs time for what it kills to grow in, for Ah Pook's sweet sake,
you stupid greedy vulgar ugly American deathsucker."
				--William S. Burroughs
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From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.activism.d,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Walking down to the student center last night
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:48:51 GMT
	<1992Oct15.135432.2895@nic.csu.net>
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Distribution: usa
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
In-reply-to: jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu's message of 15 Oct 92 20:54:30 GMT

jtinkle@sparc1.sparc1.csubak.edu (j. tinkle ) writes:
|>	Baloney.
|No, just what it says.  One method of avoiding unwanted pregnancies is to
|abstain.  It's the ONLY 100% effective method.

I refer you to The Gospel According to Matthew as refutation of this
claim.

:-)

--
Peace.
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                'Yes, but as empty experiences go, it's one of the best.'
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From: bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner)
Subject: Re: Simon dreams of stomping on those who oppose him #2
Organization: Novell, Inc. --Austin
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 22:36:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct13.001651.23478@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>In article <1992Oct12.181224.21287@novell.com> bboerner@novell.com (Brendan B. Boerner) writes:
>>I suppose that in your world, defending yourself against a police
>>assault would also be an "assault".  How convenient.
>>
>Well, actually since those attacked are criminals, this would not be
>a police assult, it would be an arrest operation.
>You seem worried about this, even though it's only fiction.
>I was inspired by the works of Eric Blair and Ray Bradbury.

I see, the trial took place during the demonstration, before the police
attacked (being arrested does not make one a criminal, a trial and
guilty verdict are required.  Otherwise, my pro-life crazed mom who got
arrested was a criminal as soon as she was arrested for demonstrating)?
If so, the future would need an extremely efficient court system for
that to work.

Another area where you seem to be confused is that the police are not a
tool of punishment - they arrest people whom they believe have broken a
law and hand them over to the courts where guilt or innocence is
determined.  After guilt is determined, the individual is handed over
to the prison system (if there's room) for so-called "rehabilitation".
It sounds like you think we should add another job duty to the job
description of a police officer.  I dunno, they're already burdened as
it is - you'll probably have to hire more police.  Where will you get
the money?  Don't forget to factor in the loss of taxes you'll have
when you jail (actually, in your case just kill) a large portion of
your populance.  I suppose your future has such a pro-force response
because they found that it was too expensive to incarcerate folks
(i.e.  it's cheaper to kill instead of jail the guilty)?

Brendan
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Internet: bboerner@novell.com	MHS: bboerner@novell
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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
From: rescorla@rtnmr.chem.yale.edu (Eric Rescorla)
Subject: Re: Walking down to the student center last night
Organization: Rescorla for himself.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 22:11:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.210941.22964@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> William.A.Hall.Jr.@dartmouth.edu (William A. Hall Jr.) writes:
>Maybe it's me, but when a baby (or a baby-to-be, whatever you'd like to
>call it!) becomes a PARASITE, I think there's a MAJOR problem with our
>society.
Why? It IS a parasite. It's living off the woman in who's body it
is living. It is damaging her body and giving her nothing  if she does
not want it.

>Or maybe it's just me.
It's probably just you.
-Ekr


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Former chemist now CM400 mechanic                 ekr@eitech.com(preferred)
   "Base 8 is just like base 10, really...if you're missing two fingers."
From: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Conte)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: The Limbaugh Poll
Summary: Pinheads unite aka liberal core dump
Keywords: Swallowed hook line and sinker
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:09:10 GMT
Reply-To: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: flyboy.ebay.sun.com


In article <1992Oct10.194904.4504@seq.uncwil.edu>, session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions) writes:
> checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Conte) writes:
> 
>>Listening to Rush today, I noticed that he was taking a poll on who is lining
>>up for who for the election.
>>Well, the count was still under way but, his poll showed a 91% run for Bush, a
>>4% + for Willy, and a 4% + for the Parrot.
>>
>>Amazing !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> On the contrary, it is not amazing at all, considering the average dittohead
> who listens to Limbaugh. Any poll taken by Limbaugh is going to be guarenteed
> to have margin of error of 90%.
> 
> -- 
> Zack Sessions
> sessions@seq.uncwil.edu
> University of North Carolina at Wilmington
> "Good health is merely the slowest form of dying."

>Hey Zach, you are absolutly correct on this on!!

>Ken

Well, first I'd like to thank you for giving us your knee jerk reactions to my
comments on the RL poll.
If you hair trigger liberals would have read my previous post on the issue of poll
integrity, the ones sharing a brain would of understood that I used this poll to 
prove my point.
There was one intellegent reader who saw my focus on this issue, the other commenters
just showed us what they really are, short tempered liberals with shorter brain stems.


Al Conte
From: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM (Al Conte)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: RUSH: OUT OF A JOB?
Keywords: Clarify yourself
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:27:36 GMT
Reply-To: checksix@flyboy.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: flyboy.ebay.sun.com

> The point is, for the past 12
>years we have had the disasterous effects of republican rule to deal
>with while limbaugh has tried his best to put a positive spin on a bad
>thing.

Mitch, please qualify this statement.
Give us some examples of "disasterous effects" of republican rule.
Enlighten our minds.


Al Conte
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From: cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.activism.d,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Walking down to the student center last night
Followup-To: alt.non.sequitur
Date: 8 Oct 1992 22:33:40 GMT
Organization: SGI TechPubs
Reply-To: cj@sgi.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: eno.wpd.sgi.com


In article <1992Oct8.211540.23545@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, William.A.Hall.Jr.@dartmouth.edu writes:
|Suppose your mother, when she was pregnant with you, decided that
|pregnancy and childraising was too much of a burden and decided to,
|instead, terminate her pregnancy. You wouldn't be here! If my mother
|did so, neither would I!

And Jennifer, suppose also that your mother decided not to have
sex on the night that you were conceived.  You wouldn't be
here!  And if William.A.Hall.Jr's mother did so, neither would
he!

And think about THIS, Jennifer:  Because your mother was
pregnant with you, she FAILED to have sex with your father and
conceive your potential brother Fred.  Fred isn't here, because
of you!  And because William.A.Hall.Jr's mother did the same,
neither is William.A.Hall.Jr's potential brother Sherman!

|That's the biggest reason why abortion should be banned. People are
|*resources*, not "parasites" or "endless stomachs," as some of you on
|the net have claimed. If you don't agree with that statement, throw
|yourself off a roof right now -- human life is, in your opinion,
|worthless.

That's the biggest reason why unprotected sex should be
mandatory.  Every time a woman menstruates, a potential resource
dies!  Women should be pregnant as often as they can be.  Their
evolutionary destiny is to breed, and perpetuate their sacred
DNA.  Miscarriages are murder.  Contraception is death.  If you
don't agree with that statement, throw yourself off a roof right
now-- human life is, in your opinion, worthless.

Followups are directed appropriately.

---
cj@eno.wpd.sgi.com      C J Silverio/Brahms Gang/Berkeley CA 94720
"Elizabeth, none of us men out here "know" what pregnancy is like and what 
it does to the woman psychologically.  What we do know is that often it is 
painful and unwanted.  It is like a harmless slavery of sorts." -Kevin Welch
From: session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Bob Dornan on Bill Clinton - IMPORTANT
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:47:52 GMT
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington

kgirodias@azcc.arizona.edu writes:

Come on Ken, Clinton _did_ avoid the draft. He has never denied that. I am
proud of him for doing it. Millions of other American males did to. Not very
many volunteered for military service during the Vietnam war, why do you
think they needed a draft in the first place? And yes, I can also believe
that Clinton doesn't remember exerything that happened to him and when they
happened over 20 years ago. I sure can't remember all of my experiance from
that long ago.

As far as that marijuana thing, he never tried to say that he never smoked it.
When asked a direct question on the issue, he answered it honestly and you
conservatives won't let him live his honesty down.

-- 
Zack Sessions
sessions@seq.uncwil.edu
University of North Carolina at Wilmington
"Good health is merely the slowest form of dying."
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.activism.d,alt.politics.elections,alt.politic
From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Re: Walking down to the student center last night
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 06:01:04 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.204052.19870@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.131914.8674@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> jlinder@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Jeffrey S Linder) writes:

>>I too believe that abortion, in most cases, is barbaric.  It is especially
>>barbaric when used as birth control.  Neither side in this debate is willing

I, and most pro-choice people, agree.  We just don't think it's good
policy to have the government interrogating women to find out their "real"
reason for having an abortion.

>>to come to a compromise (if there is one).  I would suggest that a good
>>compromise would be that life begins with brain activity.  Brain activity is
>>certainly considered as an indication of the end of life, why not the
>>beginning?

>My sentiments exactly.  Look at the way it has been used for birth control here
>in America, this is the same thing done in China for "population control".
>And eugenics in Nazi Germany, but that analogy bothers the pro-choice crowd.
>Look, I am quoting messages!

Can you *really* not distinguish between government forced abortions 
and choice, Simon?  Or is this just the silly "If you can't use logic,
bring up Hitler" net.tactic?

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