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From: J10B000 <J10B@UNB.CA>
Subject: Re: Women's pos. & Ben Mahjoor
Organization: The University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:12:09 GMT

Behnam salam, Most of the sources you mentioned are biased and have a
record of spreadind romours except N.Y. Times and W Post for part of
their econamic reports. If you've got a report from these 2 that could
support your original post( as you've described the situation ) It would
be noticable otherwise as I told your post is just a romour. If Keyhan
Havaii also suppot your post it should be regraded because from politica
l point of view it has no reason to spread such a romour. So give me the
date of the issue of this weekly that supports you.

2) I'm not comapring orange with apple. You claimed that debt is a world
record and I gave you an example that it's not. So the expression of the
"World Record" is not a right one for that idea. For the rest of discuss
ion in Economics; well it's out of the scope of our chat so let's limit
the boarders to get to somewhere. It's to be said that I agree with some
parts of your ideas and disagree with some.

3) It's not fair that we blame IRI goverment for some yong people misery
in Turkey and Pakistan. So many of Iranaian youths are in Iran, they go
to university and work in plants and during the war they defended their
homeland's soil and everybody has to praise them because it was Iraq
that attacked Iran and captured 18000 Km sq. and it was these people who
drive the agressor's out. If it wasn't these youths our land would be
under Iraqi's boots, it's that simple. So if some people went out of the
country in that time and were looking for paradise in Turkey and Pakista
n and instead they found hell it's their own fault. Some people ressiste
d, they gave their lives and got the honour and pride. Some other that
couldn't manage their life should blame themselves. Life is not always
easy; you've got to have the guts to face the chalenge otherwise it's
probable to get misery.  Pessar Amoo
P.S. If you'd like to send the massage in a reply manner and not post it
for the public I'm fine with that. I'm fine with the other side as well.

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From: behzad@ra.cs.umb.edu (Behzad Soltani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Counting Heads
Date: 14 Dec 92 05:05:10 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston, Dept of Math and CS

Well I am not sure but I think there are about 1.5 to 2 Million Iranians in 
USA and around 1 Million live in CA.  
-Behzad

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From: ahriman@wam.umd.edu (Salman Rushdie)
Subject: Re: AIDS in Iran
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:19:24 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.220525.7536@ra.oc.com> karim@hp835.mitek.com (Karim Sharif) writes:
>In article <e0ut02PB2eIh01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> bxm50@pars.amdahl.com (Ben Mahjoor) writes:
>>> 
>>> Maybe, one of the best ways to control this problem from entering Iran
>>> is to test everyone, who enters Iran.  If one found to be positive,
>>> she/he should be sent to quarantine, in case he/she is Iranian, otherwise
>>> deny entery to him/her.  Other measure could be mandatory Aids testing
>>> of all the people on the yearly bases, and infected people should be send
>>> to quarantine.  I know it is expensive, but it is effective.
>>> 
>>> Finally, maybe a High tax (some where around %90 of income) on all the 
>>> un-married people over 21 could force our people to lower their expectations 
>>> and get married.  This money should be returned to them if they get married
>>> within 3 years.  Off course, this might lead to high divorce rate.  Therefor,
>>> the marriages that last less than 10 years, should return all the previous
>>> years tax reduction and repay signal tax rate (%90) for all those years.
>>> Also, other social privileges of a signal person might be subject to
>>> suspension, such as drivers license, ..., if this does not reduce the
>>> signal rate over 21 by  %90.  I guess, someone should become bad again,
>>> to save our society.
>>> 
>>>                       With highest regards,
>>>                             Babak   Sehari.
>>
>>

How in the world did you come up with this stuff. Who's going to pay their rent?
You. Are you aware of the cost of living in Iran or are you just talking "az
rooyeh shikam". If some poor guy is making 10,000 tomans and rents are running
around 30,000-50,000 how in the world do you expect him to manage a family.
When meat is 600 tomans/kilo. Presently even the guys who want to get married 
can't because they can't afford it. Prostitution has gone up as a result. And 
of course even some of the guys that are married sleep with prostitutes. So
marriage doesn't mean anything when it comes to that.

Think about what you're saying. You can't go around taxing people because they 
are single. Of course with this regime anything is possible. Recently Mr. 
Mousavi Ardebili said in the namaz jom'eh, "Khoda ro khosh nemiyad ba'zi az
mardom be khater gerrani be rohaniyoon bado birah meegooyand. Magar taghsireh
rohaniyoon ast ke tavarom hast."

Na aghayeh Mousavi Ardebili taghsireh ammeyeh bandast. Labod be goh raftan
eghtesad Iran ham taghsireh zed enghelabeh, ya behtar kharast. Roo keh neest
sang payeh Ghazvineh.



-- 
Salman Rushdie

"And I brought unto thee these Satanic Verses to quench thy thurst for truth in the form of fantacy. So go forth and live free."
From: payman@hardy.u.washington.edu (Payman Arabshahi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Iranian Arms Purchases
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:00:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec15.230018.25809
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <d6QT02wR2erc01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> 
bxm50@pars.amdahl.com (Ben Mahjoor) writes:

>Iran, with a budget of 80 billion dollars, spends 20 billion a year on arms.

A quick clarification: The figure for Iranian arms expenditures is
2  Billion  Dollars a  year,  or 20 Billion over the next 10 years.
By way  of  comparison,  Kuwait is planning to spend 12 Billion in
defence over  the next  10 years (see  this week's  issue  of  the
Economist magazine).

-Payman
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: foroughi@mot.com (Hooman Foroughi)
Subject: Re: Women's position in today's Iran
Organization: R&D Division of Motorola Inc.
Distribution: world 
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 09:44:23 GMT

In article <lifi7qINN97f@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:
>In article <1992Dec10.172944.22411@athena.cs.uga.edu> faris@athena.cs.uga.edu (Faris Alshemmari) writes:
>>
>...
>
>>Please, don't try to discredit the iranian government by humiliating the great  
>>iranian women.
>
>i agree 100% faris.  well said.  
>
>minor correction: theres an extra "by" in that last sentence.
>
>
>
That's very good Shahrokh ..... Thats VERY good. I'll bet he wont even get the point!

I wanted to respond to him, but I couldn't have done a better job my self! 
I hope that there are still some people left that believe in respecting the human race
regardless of their gender, color, etc..  
                                      
Faris, could you tell me why women have less rights than men in Iran? What does that buy the government? 
What possible advantages would it have? [ and don't try to deny it. It is too late for that. ]




Hooman -
From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: RE: Meaning of SUCCESS  [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:28:13 GMT
Organization: Notgheh MajjAni, Inc.
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In article <lipl3cINNg1f@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> >>>>>> Anonymous writes:
>
>
>SalAmeh amoo bar shomA,

			deleted text
>
>To succeed is to laugh often and love much; to win the respect
>	of intelligent persons and the affection of children; to earn the 
>	approbation of honest citizens and endure the betrayal of false
>	friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to give 
>	of one's self; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a 
>	healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social conditions;
>	to have played and laughed with enthusiasm and sung with
>	exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because
>	you have lived--this is to have succeeded.
>
>successful bAshid,
>
>amoo
  

Meaning of success as given by Webster's collegiate dictionary ( 5th 
edition, 1949):
		That which ensues;outcome, favorable termination 
		of a venture, the attainment of wealth.
         
 p.s. some useful trivia
		
		one of the meanings of "sucker" (ibid, pg995):
		
			One who or that which sucks.



a very perceptive and not so busy fellow iraninan
 
 
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From: >>>>>> Anonymous
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: meaning of success  [sci-anon-poster]
Date: 14 Dec 1992 18:37:32 GMT
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SalAmeh amoo bar shomA,
 
A while ago one of our ahAliyeh mohtaram asked about "success" and it's
interpretations. Tonight while sitting in the "pastoo" on a break I found
a notebook from my "akAber" courses. Among other things was there a piece
which caught amoo's eyes, and he found it "del-nesheen" enough to share
with you. The author is anonymous to amoo so please "havAleh" your
compliments, complaints, "pas gardani"s(golden, silver, bronze,....), etc. to
ShAhrokh who is in charge of anonymous operations at SCI. 


To succeed is to laugh often and love much; to win the respect
	of intelligent persons and the affection of children; to earn the 
	approbation of honest citizens and endure the betrayal of false
	friends; to appreciate beauty; to find the best in others; to give 
	of one's self; to leave the world a bit better, whether by a 
	healthy child, a garden patch or a redeemed social conditions;
	to have played and laughed with enthusiasm and sung with
	exultation; to know even one life has breathed easier because
	you have lived--this is to have succeeded.

successful bAshid,

amoo
 
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From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: AIDS in Iran
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:54:38 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Originator: sehari@class1.iastate.edu

In <1992Dec14.184650.10664@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad) writes:


>I just heard a news report that Dr. Reza Malekzadeh, the minister of health in
>IRI, has warned that measures need to be taken to prevent the spread of AIDS
>throughout Iran.  He pointed out that roughly 26 million young people could
>be potentially exposed by various ways, and that every day, 5000 Iranians
>travel and leave the country for areas which are the most AIDS infested in 
>the world (e.g. Thailand).  He recommended awareness programs and proper 
>training and education for people with the most risk.

Maybe, one of the best ways to control this problem from entering Iran
is to test everyone, who enters Iran.  If one found to be positive,
she/he should be sent to quarantine, in case he/she is Iranian, otherwise
deny entery to him/her.  Other measure could be mandatory Aids testing
of all the people on the yearly bases, and infected people should be send
to quarantine.  I know it is expensive, but it is effective.

Finally, maybe a High tax (some where around %90 of income) on all the 
un-married people over 21 could force our people to lower their expectations 
and get married.  This money should be returned to them if they get married
within 3 years.  Off course, this might lead to high divorce rate.  Therefor,
the marriages that last less than 10 years, should return all the previous
years tax reduction and repay signal tax rate (%90) for all those years.
Also, other social privileges of a signal person might be subject to
suspension, such as drivers license, ..., if this does not reduce the
signal rate over 21 by  %90.  I guess, someone should become bad again,
to save our society.

                        With highest regards,
                             Babak   Sehari.
-- 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: afsar@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Haji Firoz)
Subject: Re: AIDS IN IRAN [sci-anon-poster]
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 17:14:55 GMT

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From: javad@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Agha Javad)
Subject: Re: WOMEN'S POS. PIONEERS IN PROST. IND.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:18:00 GMT
Organization: LabaniyyAtee-e-Sar-e-Koocheh

In article <11DEC92.12322867.0035@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA> J10B000 <J10B@UNB.CA> writes:
>Re: Women's position in IRAN.
>I've got some questions for Behnam Jan.
>1) Recalling Shahre Now and its equivalents in other big cities in Iran
>during Shah's regime tell me who was pioneer in PROSTITUTION INDUSTRY?
>

Behnam has already given an excellent answer, but I would just like to add:

Maybe shahre-no et al started before the revolution, but the widespread 
prostitution of Iranian women in Turkey and Pakistan and for that matter
the large number of young Iranian men who turned to drugs/dealing in these
countries started under the IRI, thanks to the tremendous opportunities that
IRI has provided for the young generation (including "shahadat syrup"), and
the high priority it has given to this generation, the only hope for our
future.  Those of us who were lucky (a small fraction) were able to make it
to some university and work somewhere, and lead a normal life.  The hundreds
of thousands of Iranian youth in Turkey and Pakistan will tell you quite
a different story, however.

>3) What's happened that the Iranian women who never struggled for their
>rights ( I believe they did during Shah's regime ) once have awakened
>and started doing it?

It is never too late to demand your rights.

>

Agha Javad
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: muskudar@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Michael Uskudarli)
Subject: Inquiry
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:50:38 GMT

       Hello Iranian Friends,

I spent eighteen years in Turkey and am very interested in the Shia-Sunni
conflict. Of cource, I only got the view points of Sunni's so far.
Is there anyone out there who can write a few things about Shi'ite(sorry
if it is misspelled) beliefs. Most importantly I wopuld appreciate
a historical buif up (brief) starting with the war betweem Ali and Muawiya.
Please send all related material to my e-mail. Thank you and good luck with
academic affairs.

Michael
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: AIDS in Iran
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 21:23:03 GMT

sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:

    [drivel deleted]

>Also, other social privileges of a signal person might be subject to
>suspension, such as drivers license, ...,

Listen you kid,

I will suspend your licence if you post such bu**sh** next time

>                        With highest regards,
>                             Babak   Sehari.

    --mack
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: maleki@hilbert.coe.northeastern.edu (Mohammad Maleki)
Subject: Iranian Moafi Regulations?
Keywords: iran, moafi, regulation, ?
Organization: Northeastern University
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 01:08:38 GMT



Hi friends,

	I am sure this topic has been discussed before, but for the benefit

of those who missed the discussion, would someone please post the <new>

regulations for obtaining (buying) mo'afi from Iranian military service.

I understand the prices are broken down by area of study and the degree obtained,

the price becoming heftier for more advanced degrees (the logic of which

baffles me!!).  If that is the case, is it better to get the mo'afi before

obtaining an advanced degree?  Are there any catch-22s or strings if you have

received arz for a while? 


Your comments are appreciated...



Mohammad Maleki
ECE Dept.
Northeastern University
Boston, MA

maleki@hilbert.coe.northeastern.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: satan <satan666@halcyon.com>
Subject: !!!Satan:"Khanem Javad is a HYPOCRITE! And an old SAVAK spy!"!!!
Originator: bbs@halcyon.com
Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:57:38 GMT


 After reading that old exile's, Khanem Javad, words on free sex in Iran, 
I wished he go to any group of Iranians and repeat what he said. He cries 
about how the IRI won't let him express his stupid ass views, but if you
remember why you haven't heard me for quite a while you know that I 
personally know that he is a pussy mutherfucker who's full of shit! 
Khanem Javad and an assortted band of non-Iranians, pro-Shah supporters, 
and a few namards went to the system administrator of the University of 
Houston and complained that I was the only one on SCI using profanity, 
bunch of fucking lies! Well, they took away my Unix account, so I could't 
compile my FORTRAN programs, so I failed the class. This cause me a lot 
of grief, but this forced me to improve my communication skills to be 
able to post once again. But I couldn't believe that another Iranian 
could do that to another Iranian! That's why I respect black people, 
because even if one of them is wrong they still stick together no matter 
what, Kurds do the same thing. So Khanem Javad who the fuck are you going 
to cry to now? Huh, bitch?!

P.S.
 What happen to Seyyed and Ali Baba since my unfortunate departure?

P.S.S.
 If you agree with me, please send a copy of this to Khanem Javad and 
post your views.

"I may not agree with your views, but I will give my life to defend 
them!"
                                                            Voltare

Satan.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: hatefi@dorm.rutgers.edu (SOMEBODY)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Looking for a Farsi editor for PC
Summary: Looking for a Farsi Word Proccessor
Keywords: Farsi word proccessor
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:49:44 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Hi,

I need a simple Farsi editor/word proccessor for IBM PC's.

I prefer something which does not cost too much.

I heared from Iran that Word Perfect v5.1 supports Farsi fonts and looks
very nice, but costs around 600K Rials in Tehran.

Thanks
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: afsar@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Haji Firoz)
Subject: Re: Counting Heads
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 17:02:43 GMT

There are so many Iranians in California that some streets and cities have
Iranian names. Los Angeles is called Tehrangeles and there are thousands of
Iranian restaurants, auto shops, car dealers, lawyers, doctors, engineers,
realtors, inventors, and almost every month there is a new singer and dancer(
between us there are many cute Iraninan girls in California )

Haji
From: smortaz (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re; emtehAneh rAnandegi #1.... /sci/pos  [sci-poster]
Date: 16 Dec 1992 01:24:55 GMT
Organization: SCI Friends & Family, Inc.
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Hi Haji,

Unfortunately I don't have access to gerdsooz.  However, Mack has
already converted my script into gerdsooz.  Thanks Mack! :)

Nazi

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