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From: zlatev@an.isl.titech.ac.jp (Rossen Zlatev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Birthrate in BG about to rise!
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:44:39 GMT
Organization: Imaging Science and Engineering Lab., Tokyo Inst. of Tech., Japan
In-reply-to: lihouba@iris.weizmann.ac.il's message of 26 Jul 92 06:07:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.060741.14750@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il> lihouba@iris.weizmann.ac.il (Christo Houbaviy) writes:

> With the remaining 1400-240=1160 lv he can buy 1160/7=165.7 condoms which
>makes 5.5 condoms/day which is more than enough.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Christo

	It depends!

Cheers,

Rossen
From: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Er Golyam
Date: 25 Jul 92 15:33:21 GMT
Reply-To: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester UK

In article <peter.711895614@itnux2.cineca.it> peter@itnux2.cineca.it (Peter Yovchev) writes:
>lyubomir@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Lyubomir L Alexandrov) writes:

   [deleted]

>>>Dobar den,
>>>Any ideas?

>>In my correspondence with other Bulgarians we
>>use "q" to denote this sound - the "q" is good for nothing
>>else in this case and with more imagination it resembles
>>the Bulgarian letter turned to 180 degrees around the
>>center of the "q" (I can hear those of you that hate maths).

Well, I think that "u" is a very good choice for "er golyam". For example -
in "Bulgaria" :-) and many other English words, "u" sounds as "er golyam".
But there is the Bulgarian "y" ... And in such case - isn't "q" more likely
to the Bulgarian "y" ?


>I think we can use it as a standart for posting information in
>bulgarian.

Why do you need a standard? And for where? If one writes to another one and
does't use the "standard"? Just curious. Otherwise - I agree that it's nice
to exchange ideas of how to match Cyrillic to Latin letters.


>The alphabet is as follow:

>v,w

I think "v" is far better. And if a "standard" has to be introduced - only
1 letter is needed.

>j,/zh/

In English newspapers one finds 'zh' - for Zhelev, Zhivkov :-). But I think
that "j" is easier to use.

>y

maybe "yo" ?

>u

Yes but 'er goliam' - well, @ looks a bit like 'er goliam' also :-)

>sht

Maybe 'zt' ? - more concise?

>y -Er malqk in the 'consonant-er malqk-o' combination

That's a problem :-(

>>It was a little strange at first, but
>>after my friends & I got used to it, now
>>it is almost as natural as to write it in 
>>cyrillic.

It's noce to hear from people who have a lot of experience typing Bulgarian
with Latin letters - what do you think Rossen? (Zlatev)


>>Sincerely,
>>Lyubo
>>lyubomir@cs.buffalo.edu
>
>
>Ciao

Should be 'Chao' :-)))

>Peter

Best regards

Luben
From: sutin@helios.ucsc.edu (Brian Sutin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: About the Bulgarian Jews and the Bulgarian people
Date: 29 Jul 92 01:28:16 GMT
Organization: Lick Observatory UCSC
NNTP-Posting-Host: helios.ucsc.edu

In article <5492@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov) writes:
>In article <151d2dINN602@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> sutin@helios.ucsc.edu (Brian Sutin) writes:
>>In article <5462@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> lb@ra.cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov) writes:

All I really meant to say about Boyadjieff's book was that it is a little
bit "rosy"  -- there is an attempt to make situations appear in a kinder
light that reality.  I have no disagreement with any facts.  I DO disagree
with you on the following:
>
>> in which Jews and "Bulgarians" (note
>>how the word "Bulgarian" often does not include the Jews)
>
>What do you mean? When talking about ethnic and religious matters, I can't
>see how it "includes" it.

Oh?  So a Jew cannot be a Bulgarian?  I hope that is not what you are
implying.  Can a Bulgarian only be Christian or Moslem?  Is a Jew who
speaks Bulgarian (most Jews in Bulgaria do, you know) not a Bulgarian?

The first step is to say things like "Jews and Bulgarians"; then when
times get bad, the Gentiles can say, "What are these Jews doing here?
They aren't Bulgarians!  Let's treat them like the second class citizens
they really are!"

Brian Sutin				sutin@helios.ucsc.edu
Lick Observatory, UCSC			Santa Cruz, CA 95064
    Fred:   "May I rescue you?"
    Ginger: "No, thank you.  I prefer being in distress."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: peter@itnux2.cineca.it (Peter Yovchev)
Subject: some fresh news from BG
Organization: Laboratorio di Fisica Computazionale, INFM. Trento Italia
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 12:48:04 GMT

Ciao,
I have few relatively new bulgarian newspapers:

from 10.7, 15.7, 18-19.7

Let's begin with 168 hours:

I will quote some of the titles in bulgarian:

Uvodnata statiya na 168 chasa e napisana ot mnogostradalniya
geroy na nezavisimata chastna bqlgarska jurnalistika Petyo Blqskov
v edin cvetusht i koloriten stil, s koyto se otlichavat povecheto
izdaniya na pres grupata '168 chasa'. Nyakolko citata:

'Shirokata kulturna obshtestvenost u nas sqshto e smutena ot tirajiraneto
na bezpardonni kleveti, lqji i ustopsuvni mrqsnosloviya.`
'...dokoga decata, koito iskat da jiveyat i se vqzpitavat v demokratichna
strana shte chetat i slushat dumi kato "bqlvoch","diariya" i drugi podobni
s izvinenie'  !!!
'Naprimer mnogo ot roditelite za koito stava duma, spodelyat che apetitqt 
na decata im znachitelno se podobryaval sled dumite "Yaj che shte te dam
na chicho Encho"' Encho Mutafov e glavniyat redaktor na 'Democraciya'.
'V krayna smetka ne biva da vinim partiynata jurnalistika za prostashtinata
i`. Na neya drug i` plashta, drug i` vdiga sukmana. A izvestno e che za tozi
dreven zanayat ne tryabva akql a "D"' - kray na citata.

Nyakoi drugi zaglaviya:
'Novite mita-yumruk v zqbite na kapitalizma'
'Riformata ni prevqrna v geroi v mirno vreme'
'Za da spechelish ot tototo pqrvo tryabva da pusnesh fisha'
'Samochuvstvieto na vodeshti elektronici se podmenya s domatadjiystvo'
'Vlastta e bezpolezna , no sposobnostta i` da prechi e bezgranichna`
'Sinya baltiya se razvqrtya v Ministerskiya sqvet`
i t.n.

Vestnik 24 chasa:
'Totalen udar v sinyo obeshta Georgi Markov`
'Firma blokira avtomagistrala "Trakiya"`
'Arest zaplashva d-r Trenchev`
'30% danqk za chastnicite s pechalba pod 1 mln. lv.`
'Anatema grozi Hr. Sqbev i spodvijnicite mu`
'Nazryava nova smyana na ministri'
'Prezidentqt smeni vischi voenni'
'DSK svali lihvata za 12-mesechniya vlog na 61%`
'F.Dimitrov zaigra va bank sreshtu K.Trenchev i Kr. Petkov`


Kursovete na osnovnite valuti:
     kupuva   prodava
DEM  15.15    15.60
USD  22.75    23.15
CHF  17.10    17.40

That's all for the moment. If somebody has more
questions can email me.
I'll answer if I have a free time.

Ciao 

Peter
From: haralaag@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: bulgarian embassy in US - numbers
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:34:22 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <Brv7Iv.5w1@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, svilen@sofia.ks.uiuc.edu (Svilen Tzonev) writes:
> Hi everybody,
> 
> Do you know the voice/fax numbers of the bulgarian embassy in US?

Yes: phone (202) 387-7969
       fax (202) 234-7973
	
> 
> Thanks a lot in advance,

	Nyama zashto
> 
> ignorant Svilen

	Alex Haralampiev
From: PXP111@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Apologies
Date: 22 Jul 92 05:11:46 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I am sorry for getting us M.
I want you to know that I never argued with him but with Mark and Kelly.
Replies and everything will not be continued here but in SCG, SCT.

                            Deepest Apologies to all...
                            Andronikos Romanos
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: ae56@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de ()
Subject: An alt.visa.us newsgroup
Originator: ae56@ma70.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:15:58 GMT

As you can suppose from the subject, a newsgroup alt.visa.us has been created
a couple of days ago, dealing with different aspects of obtaining a US visa.

Dimitri.
From: rado@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Radoslav Radev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: QUESTIONS: BULGARIAN DIPLOMAS/DEGREE EVALUATION  IN US
Date: 28 Jul 1992 19:50:29 GMT
Organization: Space Science Laboratory, University of California at Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu


 	BULGARIAN DIPLOMAS/DEGREE EVALUATION  IN US 
        ===========================================


	I would be very grateful if I can obtain  a thorough as 
possible information and hints regarding evaluation/recognition of
Diplomas of "Higher Education" from Sofia State University "Kliment
Ohridski", specially in social sciences ( my concern is Pedagogy, or
Education as is referred in US ).

	 I have heard about one private company that do evaluations in
Los Angeles - International Education Research Foundation and its
Credential Evaluation Service,  tel. (213) 390-6276. Has anybody 
experience with it?. What is the equivalent of a 4 - 5 years diploma
in US - M.A. or B.A.? Where do you translate your diplomas? The Bulgarian
translation is full of terminological mistakes. Did you correct them 
in the translation replacing with a corresponding classes offered in 
US? 
	Second question is for diploma/degree "kandidat na naukite",
in social sciences (pedagogy), obtained in East Europe(E. Germany). 
Did anyone evaluated its "kandidat na naukite", is it truly 
equivalent to a Ph.D.? 

	I am posting this questions for a friend of mine, but I'm
confident that sharing this information and experience will be 
very helpful and beneficial to a broad Bulgarian community in
USA and may be outside. Many potential newcomers will be extremely
interested and I will gladly share the information.


Radoslav Radev

p.s. I propose to post all information, experience, and hints in
     scb, unless authors' preferences differ.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: svilen@sofia.ks.uiuc.edu (Svilen Tzonev)
Subject: Re: Birthrate in BG about to rise!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:43:28 GMT

Luben Boyanov writes
> In article <1992Jul26.060741.14750@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il>  
lihouba@iris.weizmann.ac.il (Christo Houbaviy) writes:
> 
> [news deleted - thanks for them]
> 
> >makes 5.5 condoms/day which is more than enough.
> 
> According to some old jokes I remember, one can say "Just enough to  
survive
> without a risk of contracting AIDS" :-)
> 
> >Cheers,
> >Christo
> 
> Likewise
> Luben

I don't know about England or Israel but here in the middle of the Midwest
"such kind of jokes" could be easily declared very SEXIST. ;-)

So, keep it in mind folks...

Svilen
From: vassil@mary-ann.cs.wisc.edu (Vassil Peytchev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Er Golyam
Keywords: alphabet, er golyam
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:07:07 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

I have followed with interest the discussion about how to write in Bulgarian
using Latin letters. So far I have seen the following as undisputed 
correspondence: (* - disputed)

a b v g d e * z i * k l m n o p r s t * f * * ch * * * * yu *

I think that in determining what to use for the disputed letters, we should
have the following in mind:
	How easy it will be for a Bulgarian to read and write the text? This
includes no ambiguity, possible phonetic correspondence with the chosen Latin
letter(s), etc.
	How easy it will be for a non-Bulgarian to read the text? In this case,
like in the above, I have in mind a person who doesn't know beforehand what the
exact correspondence is. Here important is the phonetic resemblance.
	How easy will it be to transfer automatically a text written in this
manner to LaTeX cyrillic format? This is probably the least important thing,
but I like to have the opportunity to write and print in Bulgarian.

So here are my suggestions for the disputed letters, based on the above 
criteria:

	J for `Joro', `jena', etc. I was tempted to use ZH, but there are many
Bulgarian words like `razhodi', `izhod', etc., where this combination is used.
One problem with this choice is that `J' has different phonetical meaning in
different languages, but I don't think that this is a real problem.
	Y for `Yordan', `yod', etc. Phonetically correct ;)
	U for `uspeh', `usluga', etc. Same here.
	H for `hora', `hubav', etc. There is a possibility for ambiguity if
there are more cases like the name `Ichak', but I couldn't think of other
examples. So if there are other cases like this, it might be better to use `KH'
instead, otherwise `Ickhak' will be an exeption. Another option is to use `X'.
	C for `cvete', `cwrkva', etc. `TS' is ambiguous since there are many
words like `otsyavam', `otsipvam', etc.
	SH for `shirok', `sharen', etc. This was a very problematic choice, 
since there are words like `shodyasht', where `s' and `h' denote separate 
sounds. Maybe W could be used here if it isn't fit for `er-golyam'.
	SHT for `shtit', `shtuka', etc.
	W for `wgwl'. This comes from the postal office transliteration table,
where `er-golyam' is `aw' (as far as I remember). Other possibility could be
`@', which has the problem that it doesn't have upper (or maybe lower) case.
	Y for `minyor', `montyor', etc. Note that there is no ambiguity with
respect to `i-kratko' because of the simple rule we all learned in first grade.
It makes the tranlation to LaTeX format easy, too.
	YA for `yabwlka', `yayce', etc. Although `q' is similar, `Q' isn't, and
phonetically I don't like it.

Finally, this is what I came up with:

a b v g d e j z i y k l m n o p r s t u f h(kh,x) c ch sh(w) sht w(@,aw) y yu ya

Any comments are wellcome. If we come up with something in the end, I can write
and send to those using LaTeX a small program, which will translate any BG text
to LaTeX format.

Best regards

Vassil
From: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Have you made Bulgarian Yogurt outside Bulgaria?
Date: 27 Jul 92 09:14:53 GMT
Reply-To: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester UK

In article <Bs0sqq.Gq2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> svilen@sofia.ks.uiuc.edu (Svilen Tzonev) writes:
[deleted]

>Let's close the page. 

OK - so no more lessons on biology :-)

>BTW, if you watched the opening of the Olympics, did you notice what   
>Bulgaria is famous with in the sports arena? It wasn't kiselo mliako...
>The comment of the NBC speaker was "home of the weight lifting ... " and  
>later "... use of steroids ...". :-( 

The comment here was not like this. However, I was really angry as during
the last games, our weight lifters were not caught of using steroids but of
a substance which reduces the weight. And the story was really strange. Not
that I'm trying to excuse them but I think there were serious doubts of
provocations. And BTW - Ivan Ivanov just won the first gold medal for
Bulgaria - congratulations. V. Lecheva has silver (missed the gold for
little). 

>best regards,

>(less ignorant => less knowing) Svilen  

Best regards

Luben
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Birthrate in BG about to rise!
From: lihouba@iris.weizmann.ac.il (Christo Houbaviy)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:17:46 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computing Centre

In article <Bs0y4H.I2L@news.cso.uiuc.edu> svilen@sofia.ks.uiuc.edu (Svilen Tzonev) writes:
>Luben Boyanov writes
>> In article <1992Jul26.060741.14750@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il>
>lihouba@iris.weizmann.ac.il (Christo Houbaviy) writes:
>>
>> [news deleted - thanks for them]
>>
>> >makes 5.5 condoms/day which is more than enough.
>>
>> According to some old jokes I remember, one can say "Just enough to
>survive
>> without a risk of contracting AIDS" :-)
>>
>> >Cheers,
>> >Christo
>>
>> Likewise
>> Luben
>
>I don't know about England or Israel but here in the middle of the Midwest
>"such kind of jokes" could be easily declared very SEXIST. ;-)
>
>So, keep it in mind folks...
>
>Svilen

Jokes? What jokes? When the speaker said that one condom costs 7 leva he did
not sound as if he was telling a joke (although one shouldn't always take the
night block seriously). I wold even say that he sounded pretty concerned, even
grim...

Christo
From: kutluk@ccl.umist.ac.uk (Kutluk Ozguven)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Can one buy 'sudjuk' outside BG? Favourite cuisine?
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:33:28 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In <5450@m1.cs.man.ac.uk> lb@ra.cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov) writes:

>Dear all,

>Reading your thoughts on the yogurt ('kiselo mliako'), which I never liked
>(with the exception of the one I used eat in Sliven for 2 years :-( ) I
>decided to ask, if anybody there has tasted/seen something like "sudjuk"?

shame on you Luben. You are almost Mancunianized and never been to
the Pakistani/Arab Halal grocers in Rusholme. Anyway next time visit
any of them, and get your sucuk/sudjuk/sudzukaki. They are produced by
Turkish kasaps in Germany for the expatriots aywhere in Europe. 
You can buy Turkish white cheese there too, 
I don't think there is any difference between the Bulgarian one.
(although a Bulgarian-Turk friend once insisted the Bulgarian
kashkavals taste better than our kashars, but that has to be seen)
Last Sunday, in a barbecue party (with many Greeks) my sucuks were the
main guest and the Greeks consumed them in heavenly delight. Good for
Arabs/Greeks/Turks good for Bulgarians/Macedons/SerboCroatoMuslims.

Kutluk
lihouba
From: lihouba@iris.weizmann.ac.il (Christo Houbaviy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Birthrate in BG about to rise!
Date: 26 Jul 92 06:07:41 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computing Centre

Dear netters!

Last night the speaker made the following observation on Horizont's Night
Block:

1 kg of peaches = 8 lv
1 (one) condom = 7 lv
Therefore the birthrate in the country should rapidly rise! :-)
I was about to make a similar conclusion about the spread of AIDS in the
country :-( but the following simple calculation made me think that things are
not actually that bad:-)

Let's assume that an average salary is 1400 lv.
Let's also assume that a man can survive on a kilogramme of peaches per day.
In that case he would have to spend only  8 lv X 30 days = 240 lv/month for
food. With the remaining 1400-240=1160 lv he can buy 1160/7=165.7 condoms which
makes 5.5 condoms/day which is more than enough.

Cheers,

Christo
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
From: stanchev@brahms.udel.edu (Gueorgui Stantchev)
Subject: Re: Bulgarian Yogurt
Organization: University of Delaware
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 15:17:52 GMT


In his article of July 20, Nikolay Mehandjiev expresses his nostalgy for
Bulgarian yogurt, which obviously is an essential part of this Bulgarian
Dream that I suppose all of us living abroad keep in our hearts. Fortunately
with regards to yogurt the situation is not so desperate as long as one can
find very good substitutes in certain grocery stores in U.S.  To start with
I would mention the cheapest brand name I have encountered - Pathmark Yogurt,
sold apparently in all Pathmark stores. Some other nice brand names I can
recall now are Dannon Yo. and Brown Farm Yo. , which may be found in almost
every big supermarket.  Probably the best quality yogurt, however, is available
in the so called Co-op Markets, where products are supplied directly from
farms.  Of course most of the things there are relatively expensive, but luckilythe price of yogurt differs by a very small margin from the one in regular
stores.  At the same time I was totally surprised to find yogurt with the 
same taste as the one in the dairy farms in Bulgaria - with a thick 1/2 cm.
layer of condensed butter on top and concentrated yogurt substance and, I must
admit, with the very same taste.  I remember the first time I bought one 2lb.
cup with the intention to make some 'tarator' but when I tasted it I just
couldn't help from eating the whole cup at once.  Since that time I make my
'tarator' from some less quality yogurt, and I buy this particular farm made
brand to eat it just 'za kef'.  

So enough with my gourmet adventures.  What is important with regard to the
question about Lactobactericus Bulgaricus is that probably it is not the only
bacteria capable of producing yogurt, or if it is then it obviously have been  
imported in the States or elsewhere.  Unfortunately I haven't encountered any
form of Bulgarian cheese around /some similar looking American products have
nothing to do with it/, so I dare launch the hypothesis that it is probably
cheese that requires some magic bacteria which may not be able to live outside
Bulgaria and the Balkan Penninsula.  And I'd like to contribute to Luben's
'zhalba za Bulgaria' with the image of a thick slice of 'selski hljab' and a
piece of 'mandradjijsko sirene' sprayed with  some 'merudijka'. And, I forgot,
a tiny slice of 'luchetz'.

Cheers,
George Stanchev (Zhoro)
-----------------------
Univ. of Delaware
e-mail stanchev@brahms.udel.edu
From: svilen@sofia.ks.uiuc.edu (Svilen Tzonev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: bulgarian embassy in US - numbers
Date: 23 Jul 92 23:20:54 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Hi everybody,

Do you know the voice/fax numbers of the bulgarian embassy in US?

Thanks a lot in advance,

ignorant Svilen
Xref: sparky soc.culture.bulgaria:1065 soc.culture.jewish:13286
From: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria,soc.culture.jewish
Subject: Re: About the Bulgarian Jews and the Bulgarian people
Date: 30 Jul 92 11:54:42 GMT
Reply-To: lb@cs.man.ac.uk (Luben Boyanov)
Followup-To: soc.culture.bulgaria
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Manchester UK

In article <156lgfINNfhr@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> sutin@helios.ucsc.edu (Brian Sutin) writes:

[deleted]

>I would just like to point out that it you came out saying such things in
>the US, you would be immediately labeled as a Nazi or a Klansman.  If you
>were a politician, you would be thrown from office.  To call the people
>whose ancestors were forced by the Turks to convert to Islam (or
>voluntarily converted) to be no longer Bulgarian is to rudely deprive them
>of their culture.  You have torn Bulgarian citizenship away from Jews, some
>of whose families who have lived in Bulgaria for over 1500 years.

Brian, I agree with you, but you seem to forget that the majority of the
Bulgarians have not "developed" the Western way of expressing themselves
and they don't use the right words to say what they want to. I think that
Christo didn't mean to deprive anybody of their culture. And why do you
think that Bulgaria has torn the Bulgarian citizenship of their Jews. I've
never heard that happening. And as I mentioned earlier - when talking about
such events there had to be a way for "differing". And as for the Bulgarian
Turks - they lived far better and happier in Bulgaria for more than 100
years than in any other Balkan state - the shameful 1984 - 1989 events
can't change the more than 100 years excelent record of good interethnic
relationships in Bulgaria. There were (before 1984) even priviledges for
the Bulgarian Turks in many areas only because they were Turks. But the
1984 - 1989 events shaded all those away. Yesterday, when I watched Naim
Suleimanov, I was thinking about many other Bulgarian Turks who were very
happy in Bulgaria, worked and competed for Bulgaria and be sure - if it was
not the communist racist attitude during the years mentioned above, Naim
would have been a gold medalist for Bulgaria and not Turkey ...

>Brian Sutin

Regards

Luben