From: pjoseph@ucselx.sdsu.edu (Paul Joseph)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil,soc.culture.indian.telugu
Subject: Re: Sneaky posts from women's net
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:11:44 GMT
Organization: SDSU Computing Services

In article <SHUBU.93Jan9144442@green.cs.wisc.edu> shubu@cs.wisc.edu (Shubhendu S. Mukherjee) writes:
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>>>>>> In article <1im0vbINNt3o@aludra.usc.edu>, fafat@usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) quotes:
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>VF> "I have found through personal experience that desi males seriously lack 
>VF>  in sophistication (NOT sophistry... this last seems to abound in plenty,
>VF>  just read sci, if you gals don't believe me). I would'nt be unkind and 
>VF>  say that they are really crude but they do come close. Take for example,
>VF>  asking a woman out on a date:..."
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>I agree w/ you on this point.  However, some of my friends who are very
>smart and fit the dream-prince image (tall, dark and handsome) tend 
>to keep a safe distance from the Indian crowd. 
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>I am not sure who I am replying to.  But from my personal experience, I have 
>found most of the Indian (as opposed to ABCD)  women around pretty
>unsophisticated.  (I can think of a 1000 reasons why they are 
>so.)  The point is: the case is same for both men and women and I am 
>exteremely disappointed at the state of affairs.
>
>Luck!
>-Shubu
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>Shubhendu Sekhar Mukherjee 	 University of Wisconsin @ Madison, C.Sc.
>Net:shubu@cs.{wisc,utexas}.edu   [W]:(608) 262-1012    [H]:(608) 255-6322

Maybe its good that these guys and gals freshly landed from India are
not as sophisticated as you would like them to be. What exactly do you
mean by " sophistication " anyways ?

'Cause if its being comfortably friendly then these " naive " people 
are sophisticated. However if it is not knowing how to react to an
invitation for a date or being a little shy ( in some aspects ) then
yes, they are country bumpkins.

And for that matter if you would take a little time in learning the 
gentler arts of wooing which pertain to the cultural background from
which we " desis"  come from then perhaps you would meet more success with 
the ( desi ) women. ( Forgive me for assuming that your bitter tone 
indicates a lack of success with the same ). Sure you would meet with very 
little success on an unimaginative line like
- Would you be interested in having lunch/ dinner. 

Most of the " desi"  women I have known ( note known - I do not have 
illusions of being a casanova ) offer to foot part of the bill when out 
with a male companion. And I am sure that none of the desi men I have known
walk around from the driver side door to unlock the door for their 
female companion or for that matter even at any door ( Dont you know
such things are done by only politicians and govt. clerks in India ? )
So perhaps you are right the guys and gals from India are " unsophisticated ".

As for ( some of ) the ABCD's , I find their oooh's, aah's and oh_really's 
quite monotonuos. They are a very superficial lot and always seem to be 
extremely self conscious about their cool appearance. That's not bad - its
just the degree to which it they carry it. 

There are all kinds everywhere. There are lots of guys fresh from India
who are quite well adept in asking a girl out. So Fafat - how would you
know if "desi" guys are not good at this - unless you didnt like the
way some guy asked you out .....

Maybe you havent been to India in a long time or maybe you didnt bother to 
see it well enough.

And of course everybody is entitled to his liking or at least talk about it,
so you are welcome and this is not a flame -

Paul Joseph
( Newly arrived desi )
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