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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: OS2 developer's CDs have no TCP/IP 1.2.1
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 19:41:20 GMT

In article <1992Oct11.034746.2844@unlv.edu> slumos@unlv.edu (Steve Lumos) writes:
>>I'm not sure if this was a question, but, yes, the OS/2 PDK CD-ROM
>>does have IBM TCP/IP 1.2.1.
>Just so that I can get everything that I have heard perfectly clear in
>my mind: Owners of the CD-ROM are under licence to discontinue use of
>its contents on 12/15/92, right? 

Correct.  According to the shrinkwrap license, you are obliged to quit
using the contents of the ($15!) CD-ROM as of December 15, 1992.  (At
which point another CD-ROM will be available -- in fact, the second
version of the CD-ROM should be available just about now.)

What does that mean exactly?  It means that IBM doesn't want you using
old beta code in your programs (to get you to test with the release
level code) and that they won't answer questions about the contents of
the CD-ROM after that date.

It is very similar to the shrinkwrap license you get when your order
the free beta of OS/2 2.0 (with Win-OS/2 3.1).

>I heard something to that effect. If IBM is really and truely 'giving
>away' all of these goodies to anyone who promises to write programs
>for OS/2, we are going to have a flood to deal with (YES!)

It is an incredible deal, and I urge everyone who wishes the Toolkit,
C Set/2, LAN Server 3.0, TCP/IP 1.2.1, programming information, etc.,
to get ahold of this CD-ROM.  For $15 you get an awful lot.  Just make
an effort to comply with IBM's wishes, namely that if you install one
hundred copies of TCP/IP in your company, don't make 100 copies off
this $15 CD-ROM -- go out and get the real thing.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: edb998esys@vx24.cc.monash.edu.au
Subject: missing files in gcc
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 21:04:18 GMT

When I try to compile the gcc that comes with emx 0.8e i am missing the
header files i386.h and bsd386.h
are they in the patched distribution or not?
also where is ld?

Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc
From: lai@seas.gwu.edu (William Y. Lai)
Subject: What is in the Technical Reference Library?
Followup-To: comp.os.os2.misc
Originator: lai@seas.gwu.edu
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:21:22 GMT

I've heard that IBM has a publication called OS/2 Techincal Reference
Library, which is available in paper form for $295 and in electronic
form via the DAP CD-ROM.  Does anyone know what sort of techincal info
does it contain?  And can someone tell me in what format is the Tech Ref
stored on the CD-ROM?

-- 
email: lai@seas.gwu.edu | "I want to do everything.  I want to have everything.
Dept. of Electrical Eng.|  I have a wonderful, wonderful life.  But there's so
George Washington Univ. |  much more out there.  Do I have it all?  Yes.  Do I
Washington, D.C.        |  want more?  Yeah, sure."     -Demi Moore        
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: fritz@ra.csc.ti.com (Fritz Whittington)
Subject: Re: OS2 developer's CDs have no TCP/IP 1.2.1
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 19:42:54 GMT

In article <Ty9msB3w165w@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> wayned@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Wayne Desmond) writes:
>mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>
>> [Does the license really obligate to not using it after Dec 15, or
>> does it just go 'unsupported' after that date?  Yeah, I know, they'd
>> be hard pressed to police something like that, but I always was
>> excessively honest.]
>
>The license reads:
>TERM AND TERMINATION. Unless IBM notifies you of an earlier date (with 14 
>days notice), your license to use the Kit terminates on Dec. 15, 1992. 
>Upon termination you agree to destroy all copies of the Kit. You may 
>terminate your license at any time by destroying all your copies of the 
>Program and documentation. IBM may terminate your license if you fail to 
>comply with the terms and conditions of this agreement.
>
>Looks like there will be alot of toxic CD smoke on Dec. 15 this year.

Actually, for a neat-looking wall hanging & souvenier, put it in the
microwave for about 5 seconds.  The aluminum film crinkles rather nicely.

-- 
Fritz Whittington Texas Instruments, P.O. Box 655474, MS 446 Dallas, TX 75265
    Shipping address: 13510 North Central Expressway, MS 446 Dallas, TX 75243  
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Since I am not an official TI spokesperson, these opinions contain no spokes.
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From: RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at (FLATSCHER Rony)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Example code to insert cmd files in startup folder
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:24:46 GMT
Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria

Larry:

We are backlogged a week, so you might know the answer already.

Create e.g. an OS/2-window-object, open the object-menu, choose open
settings, choose program. Let us say your cmd-file is called C:\DOIT.CMD

possibility 1)
  - enter "C:\DOIT.CMD" in "Path and filename"

possibility 2)
  - enter "CMD.EXE" in "Path and filename"
  - enter "/K C:\DOIT.CMD" in "Parameters"
  - if you want to prompt the user for parameters append to the program name
    in the "Parameters" an opening square bracket, a blank and a closing
    square bracket for any parameters you want to prompt for. If you want to
    supply a prompt text, replace the blank within the square brackets with
    the desired text.

Save the settings.

Move or shadow the object to the Startup-folder.

Possibility 1 executes C:\DOIT.CMD, upon termination it will terminate the
session.

Possibility 2 creates an OS/2-session, tells CMD.EXE to keep the session after
the program "C:\DOIT.CMD" is terminated, i.e. do not close the window.

---rony
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: cjin@snake18.cs.wisc.edu (Cjin Lee)
Subject: OS/2 Programming - A beginner's wish
Organization: U of Wisconsin CS Dept
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 21:24:41 GMT

Hi everyone,
	I had downloaded gcc-2-2-2 for almost a month now. I think it's
about time I get started OS/2 programming. 

	Could someone either mail me a complete source code of a 
skeleton PM program or point me to a source.

	I have tried compiling the source from the RedBooks to no
avail. I need to be able to compile before I can start to do some
serious work. 

	Thanks in advance.

							- cjin pheow

Xref: sparky comp.os.os2.programmer:5683 comp.os.os2.misc:32952
From: rob@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Robert Rittenhouse)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Example code to insert cmd files in startup folder
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:15:49 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:

> In article <92283.195245RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at> RONY@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac
> >Larry:
> >
> >We are backlogged a week, so you might know the answer already.
> >
> >Create e.g. an OS/2-window-object, open the object-menu, choose open
> >settings, choose program.
> >
> >Save the settings.
> >
> >Move or shadow the object to the Startup-folder.
> 
> You can also create a file called STARTUP.CMD in the root of your boot
> volume.  This is the old (OS/2 1.2) way of starting up apps, but it
> works.  You just "start" or "detach" apps from it.  Be sure to end the
> file with an "exit" statement or the window will remain open at a
> prompt.
> 
> -- 
> David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writi
> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enou
> ----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
> Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard

I have a STARTUP.CMD file with the code from one of the redbooks that's
supposed to keep programs and stuff from starting.  The OS/2 Command
Window stays open even though the file ends with EXIT.  What am I
missing here:   Code follows
/* Clear startup programs from OS2.INI */            
 call RxFuncAdd 'SysIni','RexxUtil','SysIni'         
 call SysIni,'PM_WorkPlace:Restart','DELETE:'        
 call SysIni,'FolderworkareaRunningObjects','DELETE:'
 exit                                                

Rob Rittenhouse
                                                     
Rob@cybernet.cse.fau.edu
RITTENHO@acc.fau.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: Larry Margolis <margoli@watson.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: Send-Message hook killing EPM
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:48:48 GMT
Reply-To: margoli@watson.ibm.com
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: The Village Waterbed

In  <1992Oct7.200515.2306@netcom.com>  jsuttor@netcom.com (Jeff Suttor) writes:
> fred@oneup.Gwinnett.COM (Fred Christianson) writes:
> >If I run EPM under IPMD, there are 2 threads on the stack when it dies.
> >The first thread always has ETKE550:2 on the stack and the second thread
> >usually has 8 or more entries on the stack each at
>
> >     ETKE550:2, ETKE550:4, ETKE550:5, or ETKE550:7.
>
> *551 EPM stuff is available from software.watson.ibm.com
>
> 9-01-92   3:55p    414032          33  ETKE551.DLL
> 9-01-92   3:54p    163648          33  ETKR551.DLL
> 3-30-92  12:00p     17046           0  ETKTHNK.DLL
>
> Maybe that will help ???

I'm pretty sure it will.  If not, let me know.

The problem is a PM bug - the owner-draw button gets passed an unthunked
pointer if a system message hook is in place.  In 5.51, we explicitly check
for this.  You won't get the icons on the buttons, but you won't get a trap.

Larry Margolis, MARGOLI@YKTVMV (Bitnet), margoli@watson.IBM.com (Internet)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: tpa10@snappy-tom.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Thomas P. Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: gcchdr.zoo from ftp-os2
Date: 7 Oct 92 14:52:21 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <4OCT199210020436@envmsa.eas.asu.edu>, peckham@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (Bill) writes:
|> 
|>      I just downloaded gcchdr.zoo from os2-ftp, but I have no idea which
|> files go into which include directories.  I know that I need gcc-include,
|> g++-include, and os2-include, but which files go where?  Also, are there
|> any sys subdirectories under these subdirectories?  If so, which files go
|> in the sys subdirs?
|> 
|> Bill Peckham
|> peckham@envmsa.eas.asu.edu
 I have the same question!  Are there any more instructions for installing this
beast?  I use 'fat' rather than 'hpfs' so I created the subdirectories 
GPPINC, GCCINC, and OS2INC for C++, C, and OS2 headers.  
 
I can see from what little doc there is that MOST of the mixed case names
belong to C++, and I ASSUME that anything with a suffix like .hpp .cpp would
also belong to C++, and the OS2 headers are also pretty intuitive, but there
appear to be multiple files with the same name in the same case!
  
Also the header OS2API.H appears to be missing?
 
Roast me, toast me, and flame me for my stupidity/ignorence, but most of all
HELP! 
 
Tom A.
From: johns@cs.umr.edu (John Stone)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: VGALIB 0.1 now on hobbes in uploads dir...
Date: 15 Oct 92 05:10:50 GMT
Article-I.D.: umr.1992Oct15.051050.11283
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla
Originator: johns@mcs213c.cs.umr.edu


Hobbes' just got cleaned off, and I was able to put vgalib.zip 
in the pub/uploads directory.  

I'd like to get feedback from people on it, send
me mail at:  johns@cs.umr.edu


Thanks,
          John Stone
          johns@cs.umr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: joshi@m.cs.uiuc.edu (Anil Joshi)
Subject: Re: What's the format of the DAP CD?
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:18:41 GMT

sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples) writes:

>In article <geqZx3C00WBLM8ZLsn@andrew.cmu.edu> sl31+@andrew.cmu.edu (Stephen M. Lacy) writes:
>>DecStation 5000's.  I've been told that they read the IS09660 format. 
>>(I think thats right...)  Is this the format that the CD is on?  How

>That's correct -- it's in what is also called "High Sierra" format.

High Sierra was a pre-cursor to ISO9660 standard. Is the CD in the former or
latter format? I am guessing that these are in ISO9660 format (which is the
ANSI standard).

>Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST 2.0f is avail.

Anil
-- 
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From: francis@vnet.ibm.com (Tim Francis)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 18:10:29 EDT
Subject: CSet/2 Linking Conflict
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Reply-To: francis@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Canada Lab, WorkFrame/2 development
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM

In article <92281.101301UD092096@NDSUVM1.BITNET>,
Barry Pederson <UD092096@NDSUVM1.BITNET> writes:
>
>I'm working on a program with the CSet/2 compiler and Workframe/2, and am
>having some trouble linking a certain program.
>
>I'm trying to write a program that uses both the IBM TCP/IP tcpip.dll and
>the Lotus VIM developers toolkit vim.dll.  I've had good luck with programs
>that use one or the other, but the two together don't seem to get along.
>
>The problem is that to use tcpip.dll, you have to link with the linker's
>"Do not ignore case in symbol names" option activated.  Otherwise
>
>at runtime it aborts with sys2070 (can't load the needed segment) and
>sys127 (the specified procedure could not be found)
>
>VIM, on the other hand, seems to require that you DON'T have "Do not ignore
>case in symbol names" activated, otherwise the linker complains about
>unresolved externals.
>
>What can a person do in a situation like this?
>
>    Barry
>

The fact that you can "ignore case in symbol names" for VIM would not be
a requirement -- it would just mean that the function names you use
could be whatever case you wanted (mixed, presumably).  As you require
the linker to respect the case (for TCP/IP), simply use the correct case
for your VIM functions.  What the correct case is, I have no idea.  All
uppercase, perhaps?    -tim
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: os2man@panix.com (Larry Salomon Jr.)
Subject: Re: Some programming questions. HELP !
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:17:48 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc,comp.os.os2.programmer
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

In <SO-ECS.92Oct7091401@stekt2.oulu.fi> so-ecs@stekt2.oulu.fi (Derek Heino Jr) writes:

>Here wo go:

>1. After inserting 1271 items in a combobox, I get a WIN1012 error:
>Maximum heap size reached: 65532 bytes. Those items that I inserted
>are strings with length of 29 bytes ( 29*1271=about 36kB ). So what I
>going to do ? Increase heap ( HOW ? )...

Nope.  You're stuck.  The listbox (which is part of a combobox) only 
allows you to insert 32k of data (I forgot exactly the reason why it
isn't 64k, but I believe it has something to do with internal state 
data per item that is maintained).  The only thing you can do is write
your own listbox, but that probably isn't feasible.

>2. How to control WM_SIZE ?

I assume that you want to limit either the maximum or minimum size of your
frame?  If so, you need to subclass the frame and process the WM_QUERYTRACKINFO
message and set the ptlMinTrackSize/ptlMaxTrackSize fields of the TRACKINFO
structure to the desired values.

>Thanks in advance.

Cheers,
Q
-- 
"If you choose not to decide, you  | "A fool and his money are fun to go
 still have made a choice" - Rush  |  out with" - seen on a T-shirt
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From: francis@vnet.ibm.com (Tim Francis)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 20:00:06 EDT
Subject: Re: OS/2 2.0 Frequently Asked Questions, Programmer's Edition 1.3
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Reply-To: francis@vnet.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Canada Lab, WorkFrame/2 development
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM

In article <1992Oct08.202944.17236@watson.ibm.com>,
cnadler@vnet.ibm.com (Cliff Nadler) writes:
>
>The (WorkSet/2) offer has been extended until the end of October.
>
>Cliff Nadler (cnadler@vnet.ibm.com)

This is incorrect.  Attached is the announcement.

  ABSTRACT:  For a limited time only, all customers can acquire IBM
     Developer's WorkSet/2 (10G2995) (3.5-inch); (10G3363) (5.25-inch) for
     a one-time charge of only $375 -- a $520 savings off the normal $895
     one-time charge.
        Orders must be placed on or before April 6, 1993, if using a
     credit card by calling 1-800-3IBM-OS2 (9 a.m. to 9 p.m. Eastern
     time).  Orders must be placed on or after October 13, 1992, but no
     later than April 6, 1993, if using a purchase order by calling
     1-800-IBM-CALL (6 a.m. to 5 p.m. Mountain time).
     This discount cannot be combined with any other promotions.
     IBM reserves the right to modify or withdraw this promotion at any
     time.

Canadians can phone 1-800-465-7999.  The price is $445cdn.   -tim
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere)
Subject: Re: Minor wishlist item: any IBMers out there?
Organization: NetWorx
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:05:03 GMT

Ok, ok, I'll buy most of your points.  If OS/2 came delivered with the
first element in LIBPATH being '.', it would help.  I've seen several
packages mess around with my CONFIG.SYS LIBPATH setting and tell me to
reboot.  None of them just added '.' to it.

Back to the discussion -- I use Zortech C++, with the library source.
I wouldn't want to be stuck with somebody else's library.  It would make
sense for a non-developer system though.  But the bottom line is that
no 2 compiler manufacturers have identical code in their std lib..
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
From: CCOF50@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Lynda Schneiderman)
Subject: Re: os2 development
Organization: Motorola
Date: 16 Oct 1992 16:07:01 CDT

 > Hi,  I'm new to os2 and I'd like to find out more about it.
 >Could someone tell me development environments available and
 >graphics packages available.  Where to look, who to call or
 >anything that would get me started writing some software on
 >os2 would be helpful.  I'd also like to here from people
 >that have already worked with os2 developing software and
 >what was good or bad about it.  Any info would be helpful.

 The development tool that we have been using for the last two years
 on OS/2 is Applications Manager by Intelligent Environments.  It
 is an rapid application development tool for OS/2 that lets you
 create graphical applications fairly quickly.  The tool is easy
 to learn and can create fairly complicated applications.  The
 phone number for IE is (508) 640-1080.  If you would like to chat
 feel free to give me a call at (708) 576-7940.  By the way
 Applications Manager has just been released for OS/2 2.0 that allows
 you to create 32-bit applications.  Hope this helps a little.

 Lynda Schneiderman - Motorla, Inc.
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer
Subject: Re: Networks included in OS/2
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:08:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Oct9.150833.15052
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago

In article <921005091651@128.247.81.82> 4389750@mcimail.com (Robert Gammon) writes:
>To all those who argue for putting TCP/IP inside the OS/2 box, Surprise,
>TCP/IP networks are not the only networks.  Using your arguments, TCP/IP,
>Netware, Lan Server, Lan Manager, Banyan Vines, Lantastic, etc. should ALL 
>be included in the box.  Hmm, how big is this box??  How much does it
>cost??  Who will buy it if it is this big and this expensive??  I can't
>possibly imagine getting all this extra for free, each of these other 
>companies wants/needs a cut.  Seems to me that the more reasonable
>approach is to buy the network connectivity that you need as a separate
>package.  Our needs are too diverse to be satified in a single product.

Actually, a "generic client" package is in the works.  Meaning you'll
have a set of diskettes with everybody's requesters on them.  You
stuff in the diskettes, and you are prompted to install "Novell,
Banyan, LAN Man, ..." -- and you can install one or more (to coexist,
even).

That isn't built-in peer-to-peer, though.  We'll see how that evolves.

-- 
Timothy F. Sipples      | The OS/2 FREQ. ASKED QUESTIONS LIST is avail. from
sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu | 128.123.35.151, anonymous ftp, in /pub/os2/all/faq.
Dept. of Econ., Univ.   | Or from LISTSERV@BLEKUL11.BITNET (send "HELP").
of Chicago, 60637       | Family Values Means a Job
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.programmer,comp.os.os2.misc
From: amin@rsvl.unisys.com (Amin Kassem )
Subject: Re: Price to join DAP?
Organization: Unisys - Roseville, MN
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 20:32:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.192000.12343@njitgw.njit.edu> dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.153751.4492@news.iastate.edu> jws@iastate.edu (James William Shoemaker) writes:
>>	It had a number 1-800-342-6672 to call the get it, so I called.
>>
>>	They sign you up to the DAP over the phone and charge a credit card $15
>>and my PDK is in the mail as of Oct. 5 they say.
>>
>>	Thank you IBM for providing this service to developers.
>
>How much does DAP membership cost?  Or is this a free service?
>-- 
>David Charlap         |"there aren't 50,000 things for which it's worth writing
>dic5340@hertz.njit.edu| software; and the computer industry doesn't have enough
>----------------------+ programmers to create that much good software.
>Therefore, most of it must be worthless" -- Boris Beizer "The Frozen Keyboard"


Execuse me! what is DAP?
and what info do you have on DAP?
Inquiring minds want to know. :-)
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