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From: n65j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Borland C++ vs Turbo C++
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:31:03 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Sep10.150327.12901@cbfsb.cb.att.com>,
mbb@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (martin.brilliant) writes: 
> From article <1992Sep8.170415.24800@bluemtn.COM>, by gregp@bluemtn.COM (Greg Philmon):
>> ....
>> BC includes more powerful, standalone tools for developing, such as the 
>> excellent Turbo Debugger, profiler, etc.  BC is an optimizing (sp?) compiler,
>> TC is not.
> 
> I'm confused.  Maybe that only applies to the current release.  I bought
> a used copy of Turbo C++ 1.0 which includes debugger, profiles, and
> assembler, and I think it has optimization in the compiler.  I know
> it's "Turbo," not "Borland," because I have to change "bcc" to "tcc"
> in makefiles.
> 
> 							Marty
> marty@hoqaa.att.com		hoqaa!marty
> Martin B. Brilliant		(Winnertech Corporation)	

The "Turbo C++ Professional Package" that you bought used was a predecessor
of the Borland C++ package.

Borland the Company is now maintaining the "Turbo" line in parallel with
the "Borland" line, with the "Turbo" packages targeted at
learners and the "Borland" packages targeted at pros who need things like
assemblers, both DOS and Windows support with one compiler, and optimization.

But the old Turbo C++ 1.0 Pro package was their best collection in its day.
It included small-scale optimization such as automatic register variable usage,
but nothing like the larger scale stuff in the newer compilers.

-- regards, S Pacenka, Cornell U.
From: j1w@icf.hrb.com (Doug ('Oscar') Works)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Help:  Diskdupe &| Fastcopy don't work
Date: 15 Sep 92 13:28:39 GMT
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

Folks,

     I recently downloaded a few diskcopying programs from a local BBS
and am having problems.

     I received Diskdupe (v1.0?), the trial version, but when I run it 
to copy a 3.5" to a 3.5" HD, it results in an "internal stack overflow:
system halted."  Can this problem be corrected?  Do I have a bum version?

     As if that weren't enough, I also tried an old version of Fastcopy.
It reads the first disk fine, but when it prompts me for the target disk,
the drive light stays on!  Not too healthy for disks.  Or drives, eh?

     Any help or comments or suggestions would be welcome.  Thanks.


                                                - Doug
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From: gude@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (David J W Emrich)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc
Subject: Re: Help!..NEC Multisync Keeps Blacking Out!
Date: 14 Sep 1992 20:08:59 +0800
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniwa.uwa.edu.au

shedevil@leland.Stanford.EDU (Anne P. Mitchell, JD) writes:



>Help!..my old NEC Multisync [it's a really old one...or rather, not a
>new, current model at least] has developed a most annoying habit...every
>so often [more and more often :-(] it just goes black.  Totally.  Almost
>like there is a screensaver enabled, but there isn't.  In order to get
>my screen back I have to shut the monitor off [the power switch in the
>rear] and turn it back on.  Sometimes I have to do it a few times.

>I *know* it is the monitor, because I hooked up another monitor to my
>system, and it did not do the same thing.

>What is wrong with my monitor??...and more importantly...can it be
>fixed???

>Thanks!

The problem is in the power supply section of the monitor.  Like the PC
itself, the monitor has a switchmode power supply, and it has several
over current, and over voltage protection circuits built in.  If any of
these circuits detect that the voltages or currents are going out of
range, they shut down the whole power supply, and thus the monitor
"blacks out".  There are two reasons that the circuits might be shutting
down the power supply: first, there is a real problem, something in the
monitor is loading it down too much, (usually a faulty compnent).
Second, the ciruits that detect out of range voltages and currents could
be faulty themselves.  

The reason it does it "intermittenly" is probably due to heat.  As the
monitor warms up, one of the components (or more) goes "funny" and when
the fault happens, the only way to reset it is to turn off the monitor
and let it cool down a bit.
 
Either way, the only way to get it fixed, is by someone who is competent
with monitors and/or TVs.  It is fixable, but depending on what
component is going funny, the cost could be anything from one hour's
labor to a whole day and a cople of hundred dollars for bits.

The only way to get a cost estimate is to put it in for service and get
a quote.


[dav]    aka
David Emrich
gude@uniwa.uwa.edu.au
From: astsloke@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: OPTI chipsets. Any good?
Date: 12 Sep 92 16:36:36 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore


In article <9225614.8651@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, dgh@gerbil.ecr.mu.OZ.AU (David Hook) writes:
> I've a friend who is in the process of purchasing a bunch
> of 486/33 PCs. She has been told  by various sources that
> PCs with OPTI chipsets have problems, particularly with DMA.
> Things like Windows 3.1 32-bit disk access don't work properly.
> 
> The information she has is not very definitive to enable her
> to make a reasonable decision for or against a brand of PC
> with a particular chipset.
> 
> Can anyone give me some information on the pros and cons of
> specific chipsets (problems with OPTI in particular)?
> 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Peter Grant
> 
> peterlg@ecr.mu.oz.au

I use an OPTI based 486/33 with an Adaptec AH1542B based bus mastering
controller which makes extensive use of DMA. My system passes all the tests on
the Adaptec, which is supposed to measure system capabilty.  I have no problems
with this adapter.

I have no problems with Floppy access either which uses DMA as well.

Also, I have run Fastback on my machine before and it passes all DMA 
tests as well.

As far as I know no fellow owners of OPTI systems experience any problems. 
From my use/evaluation of various  chipsets on the market when I bough my
motherboard, I find the OPTI chipset to be in wide use as well as give 
better performance than other chipsets.  In fact I recommend it to some 
buyers.

As usual, other people may have horror stories, but I have encountered none
myself.

Regards.

T.S. Loke
Nanyang Technological University
Singapore
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Stacker
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:30:14 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

catfood@wariat.org (Mark W. Schumann) writes:
>runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan) writes:
>>Gordon.Edwards@AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Gordon Edwards) writes:
>>>What are people's opinions on Stacker?
>>                                     Of course, any diskettes that I've
>>stacked can't be taken to another system unless the other system is
>>running Stacker...
>...Unless you "stack" the floppy drive itself--and I don't know
>anyone who does--files copied to diskettes are UnStacked there.  ...

I didn't make myself clear.  Yes, I `stack' the 3.5" floppy.  Only
sometimes.  With Stacker 2.0, I can do that optionally.  I can write
normal floppies (as you do), which can easily be read elsewhere, so
Stacker isn't a problem there.  It is only if I stack the floppy and
write to it via Stacker that I can't (at least, I don't think I can)
read the floppy on a non-stackerized system.  [A stacked floppy has
a stackvol file on it, and the only way I know to access that is
through stacker].

Now, I've seen claims (on their box) that SuperStor can compress a
floppy and the floppy can then be read on non-SuperStorized machines.
I was merely trying to indicate that Stacker 2.0 doesn't appear to
have that ability.

Mark Runyan
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: wer5@ellis.uchicago.edu (Will E. Rose)
Subject: Re: Desqview/X -- Opinions?
Keywords: Desqview, multi-tasking, stuff, slunge
Reply-To: wer5@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 03:01:35 GMT

In article <mirage.716509864@camelot> mirage@camelot.bradley.edu (Jeffrey Hoffman) writes:
>
>I am interested in the opinions of those who have seen/used Desqview/X.
>
>I have no prior experience with Desqview, so I would appreciate comparisons
>with Windows.  Any details, features or shortcomings would be very helpful.
>
>Is it worth the money?  Is OS/2 a better choice?  More stable?

If you are just interested in DOS multitasking, there is no reason to get
DesqView/X as opposed to regular Desqview.  The ONLY reason to consider
Desqview/X is if you're running on a network with access to other machines
running X.

I find Desqview/X to be somewhat unstable, especially under low memory
conditions.

Windows runs Windows programs better than DV/X or DV, and it's DOS support is
acceptable.

OS/2 runs Windows programs better than DV-DV/X, and DOS programs better as
well.  It also MUCH more stable than DV/X.

OS/2 running IBM's TCP/IP+NFS+X has the following advantages over DV/X running
over FTP's PC/TCP:
  - faster
  - more powerful and capable
  - cheaper
  - more stable.

Windows X solutions (i.e. Hummingbird products PC/X) are also faster than
DV/X, but suffer from some stability problems as well. (Probably NOT due to
Windows.)

I don't want people to get the idea I'm down on DV/X... I think it's a nice
idea... But after evaluating several products, I just don't think it's
mature enough yet to beat OS/2, which has the same hardware requirements,
or perhaps even Windows, which is less taxing to your system.

Questions and inquiries welcome, but no flames, please.  I'm not trying to
start an OS/2-DOS-Windows argument.


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From: cbm@stiatl.salestech.com (Chris Medders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Need info on tape backups & copying from tapes to floppy's
Summary: Need info about tape cartridges and copying from tape to floppy
Keywords: tape, backup
Date: 10 Sep 92 17:27:17 GMT
Organization: Sales Technologies, Inc.


Howdy !  I was hoping that you might be able to answer some questions I have
about unloading data from a backup tape to floppies.  My uncle owns a travel
agency and utilizes name lists for fliers, mailings, etc..  The place he
receives these lists from in Florida used to send the data via floppy disks;
they are now going to send the data via tape and I need to give him advice on
what to do next.  He informed me that the tape he will be receiving the data on
is: 1/4" cartridge, 600' length, 12,500 ftpi, 550 HCI.  I spoke with a friend 
of mine and showed him these specs - he had a SONY 1/4" cartridge tape that was
600' long and was 12,500 ftpi; however, it did not mention anything about 550
HCI.  Also, something my friend mentioned to me was that I needed to know what
type of software was used to create the tape since I would need to use the same
software to unload the data to floppies.  I sincerely appreciate any replies
I receive - answers to any of these questions or adding any other questions 
that I should be asking would be helpful.  Unfortunately, I need to let my
uncle know what to do/buy/etc.. before Friday (9/11) afternoon since he must 
UPS some tapes to this information house in Florida later that day.  Thanks !!
-Chris

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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (exuptr@exu.ericsson.se)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Re: Borland C++ vs Turbo C++
Date: 10 Sep 92 22:46:09 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Sep10.182949.18662@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>In <1992Sep10.150327.12901@cbfsb.cb.att.com> mbb@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (martin.brilliant) writes:
>>I'm confused.  Maybe that only applies to the current release.  I bought
>>a used copy of Turbo C++ 1.0 which includes debugger, profiles, and
>>assembler, and I think it has optimization in the compiler.  I know
>>it's "Turbo," not "Borland," because I have to change "bcc" to "tcc"
>>in makefiles.

>Yes, you are confused.  Note the use of the phrase "stand-alone"
>above.  He's not talking about debugging from inside the IDE.  Also,
>Turbo C++ does indeed have SOME optimization -- BCC++ has a lot more. 

Ok, ok...

Turbo C++ *Professional* ALSO has stand-alone debuggers and profilers and
assemblers.  But Turbo C++ only compiles for DOS.  Now, there is a Turbo C++
for Windows, which is pretty new.  It does not make DOS programs.

Borland C++ is basically "everything", and then some.  It has everything 
Turbo C++ Professional and Turbo C++ has, plus it makes more efficient code, 
plus you can order it with Application Frameworks and you get BOTH Turbo 
Vision and Object Windows, which are Object-Oriented application frameworks 
for DOS and Windows, respectively.

Borland C++ also gives you the run-time library source, starting with 
version (3.0 or 3.1, I don't remember), which is extra for Turbo C++.  

In a nutshell, if you want just a C++ compiler, buy Turbo C++.  If you want 
the kitchen sink, too, buy Borland C++.

Oh, Borland C++ is a lot more expensive and weighs about 25 lbs with App 
Frameworks ;-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: joe@ziggy.larc.nasa.gov (Joe Clark)
Subject: Re: Borland C++ vs Turbo C++
Originator: joe@ziggy.larc.nasa.gov
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 11:26:07 GMT

Discussion of differences between Turbo C++ and Borland C++...

Does Borland C++ have a different (i.e. better) graphics library
than Turbo C++?
From: ts@chainsaw.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Ruschak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Need help picking a system
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:12:42 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network


	I have a friend who needs help in choosing what kind of PC to buy.
I know a little about PC's, but I wanted to get some second opinions from
the net. His list:

		386DX 33 or higher
		4Mb memory or higher
		SVGA, non-interlaced, 1Mb on card
		16550 UART's (for high-speed modem stuff)
		32 bit DMA chip (to use more than 16 Mb memory)
		64K or better cache memory (hopefully 256K)
		At least 100Mb disk (IDE, I guess)
	
	Any advice on such a system would be helpful. He wants to spend in the
1.25K to 1.5K range, which is a reachable price by mail-order, I think. Can
anyone give any suggestions?

	Also, has anyone heard about a company called Vektron, in TX? They're
his leading choice right now...

Tom
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: keith@ksmith.uucp (Keith Smith)
Subject: Re: Opinions on Stacker
Organization: Keith's Computer, Hope Mills, NC
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 03:36:36 GMT

In article <4258@3cpu.rain.com> reaper@3cpu.rain.com (Ian Johnston) writes:
>
>  I am currently using Stacker, and have encountered no problems (yet).  I
>don't expect to have any, but you never know.  It did indeed increase disk
>space by about 100% (which was REAL nice).  My only gripe is that it won't 
>work with unix!
>
>reaper@3cpu.rain.com
>

No,  Stacker TOLD you you have twice the storage.  You don't.  It
depends on what you are storing.  Don't bank on those numbers, and read
the book.  A friend was showing a free 25 Meg on a stacked 40 and then
bam, out of space. . .
-- 
Keith Smith          uunet!ksmith!keith            5719 Archer Rd.
Digital Designs      BBS 1-919-423-4216            Hope Mills, NC 28348-2201
Somewhere in the Styx of North Carolina ...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: indaleci@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Laurel Indalecio)
Subject: WINA20.386 - What is it?
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 06:11:50 GMT

After installing MS-DOS 5.0 on my system, I find that among a few
other files, I find one called WINA20.386 in my root directory.  What
is it?  It seems to be related to Windows, but I don't have Windows.
I deleted it and it seems to have no affect on my system.  What was
that file for?

Thanks
Respond here or e/mail indaleci@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu
From: wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Benjamin Wai)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: Opinions needed on Video Blaster or equivalents...
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:34:57 GMT
Reply-To: wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu
Organization: Purdue University


	After spending the last month on understanding the functions of 
	Video Blaster (Creative Lab) from scattered info sources, I would 
	like to obtain some opinions from anyone who knows about the card 
	or any similar products from other companies, especially on whether 
	it's worth the price, the advantages, disadvantages, preferences, 
	things to beware of, etc. 
	I will make a summary of any info I received in the coming two
	weeks for anyone elses who is also interested.

	I appreciate your helps.

	Thanks.

	- Benjamin Wai  < wai@cn.ecn.purdue.edu > < wai@sage.cc.purdue.edu >

	Why not get a Amiga AA with a Video Toaster and forget all these 
	trouble? Someone asked. - Tempting, but not after I have already 
	spent half my life so far and all my pocket money left on my 486. 
	No returns.                                                  8 )
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Newsgroups: umn.comp.sys.ibm,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.os.msdos.apps
From: rogers@epx.cis.umn.edu ()
Subject: Re: ]* Low Norton CPU speed rating on 486SX's *
Summary: Good Cheap Clone Source
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:57:16 GMT


I suggest you check out a place called EmPac, they have a place in Golden 
vally and I believe one in bloomington.
   One my desk at work sits a 486-33 DX with 4 Meg Ram 105 Meg Hard drive
(which is to small!) and a SVGA monitor (and both floppys 5.25 & 3.5)
The current EmPac price for this is $1699.

  They have a wide range of options and you can pretty much have them build
whatever you want.  If you were me, you would get the following system for
home use:
486-50 DX   (not the DX2 )
256k cache  (my system at work has no cache, it hits 51 on the norton v4.5 SI)
Local Bus VGA  (this makes windows run ~10x faster)
Non interlace Multi-scan SVGA monitor W 1Meg card (1024x768 x256 colors)
240Meg drive (no drive is big enough for me)
Both floppys

What I just described Empac would sell for about $3K.

Actually I only need a motherboard for my system at home, but that is what I
would get if I had to start from scratch.

I found there flyer here.  three locations:
new hope  593-0988
little canada 481-0194
bloomington 884-4992

the free computer newspaper 'The Computer User'?? on newstands around town
always has a 2 page ad by EmPac.

Stay away from the bottom of the line moniters, Your eyes will thank you for it
(that's good advice for anybodys moniters)

Just a happy customer.

P.S.  Rumor has it 486 prices will drop another $100 to $300 this fall
   so if you feel like waiting...  (AMD will introduce the AMD486 and 
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From: luis@tarka.rice.edu (Luis Soltero)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,misc.forsale.computers,comp.sys.laptops
Subject: Wizard 7000/8000 serial cables for sale
Date: 9 Sep 1992 14:20:50 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Organization: Rice University, Houston

i am posting this for a friend please do not send me e-mail.

--luis@rice.edu

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From: draggon@minerva.che.uc.edu (Wendell Morris)
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To: luis@rice.edu
Status: RO

Attention Wizard Owners!!!!

I am putting together a deal to get some inexpensive cables for linking
the Wizard 7000/8000 to a PC (or any RS-232 for that matter).

These should work fine with the old software from Travelling Software Inc.
They should also work with the new software from Sharp.  If you already have
some software and just need an extra cable (for the home PC, etc.), this may
be just the ticket.

I'm selling them for $40 each.  They are line driven and consist of a connector
for the Wizard side, a DB25 female for the PC side, and an interface board
built into the DB25 hood.  The connecting cable is a little over 4' long.

I'm also planning on having a software pkg available later to work on a
SUN running X Windows.  A PC version is also a possibility.  Anyone who buys a
cable now will be offered the software at a good price when it's ready.  No
specific timetables exist yet, but the more interest there is, the faster
things will go.

Quantity discounts are available.

Mail  uccba.uc.edu!smiley!draggon  to place orders or make inquiries.
Please include your name, address, and phone number.

Orders will be shipped C.O.D. only.

For orders only (please no casual inquiries) call 1-800-MCS-9630.

Casual inquiries, please call 1-513-771-4494.

When calling, ask to speak to Wendell.

You may write for orders or info to :

	Morris Computer Systems, Inc.
	10270 Wayne Ave.
	Cincinnati, OH  45215
	Attn: Wizard Cables

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
From: ice@skynet.uucp (Ice)
Subject: Re: THE MOST TASTELESS OS (MSDOS)
Keywords: Unknown
Organization: Industrial Cybernetics
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 1992 01:03:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.055509.3859@dmp.csiro.au> lachlan@dmp.csiro.au (Lachlan Cranswick) writes:
>In Summary:-
>
>UNIX sucks, DOS sucks, Windows NT sounds
>like it SUCKS.  In the not to distant future,
>I will be finding out is OS2 sucks the hard way.
>OS2 may be the only way to utilize a PC poperly.

You might want to take a look at Univell/USL's Unix System 5 Release
4.2. It might solve your problems. Supposedly has the ability to run
DOS OS2 Windows and X-Windows. Only requires 60 Megs of disk too.

Ice()