From: ranma@pegasus.com (Doug Cha)
Subject: Re: KOR movie
Organization: Pegasus,  Honolulu
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 93 09:29:09 GMT

In article <RMC.92Dec31104749@miyazaki.wang.com> rmc@wang.com (rmc) writes:
>
>>	Madoka's move to throw her lifelong friend away in pursuit of
>>love is sad enough by itself.  It gives me shivers to just type that
>>line out.  
>
>This is a really fine story element.  It is emotionally powerful, it
>is wrenching in its immediacy.  I have the highest regard for
>Takahashi-sensei, but in all the stories i can think through by her, i
>can't think of a single plot element quite this brilliant or powerful.
>This is the kind of thing you find in Pushkin, or maybe DH Lawrence, 
>not in inexpensive entertainment.  Actually, the closest parallel i
>can think of is Zhivago's decision to leave his wife and kids for Lara.
>
>OK, so what does our brilliant KOR director do with this plot element?

	I agree with you totally here..  The plot element was brilliant,
but execution was not..  it did not quite reach fruitation in the movie
for some reason.  I could have imagined certain scenes being MUCH more
powerful than they were, which was disappointing since there's nothing
we can do about it..
	Reminds me of Godfather III.  I consider this an EXCELLENT movie,
but it could have easily been my FAVORITE if they had a REAL actress
in there instead of Sophia Coppola.  She really hurt the movie in my
opinion.

>So what are we given to work with when he finds out she has known of
>his love for Ayukawa all this time, and patiently worked to turn it
>around, and finally thought she had "won" when she kissed him?

	Whomever said that the Orange Road movie was Hikaru's movie
was absolutely right.  The entire focus is on Hikaru, which is also
disappointing to us Madoka fans..  o

>It's not as if the director and script writer are incompetent or
>incapable.  Waiting for the phone call between Kyosuke and Madoka may
>be a bit of a cliche, but it was handled quite well.  And standing in
>the store quietly, watching her sit on the bench in the rain, knowing
>that the "human" thing to do would be to go and appologize, but not
>doing it anyway because that's how he decided to handle breaking up.
>There's a moment where i actually DID identify with Kyosuke, partially
>because i was given the time and the visual stimulus to do so.
>
	There were more than a small handful of powerful scenes in the
movie..  the one that stands out in my mind is when Kyosuke walks righ
past Hikaru on 'the stairs' (how symoblic!  basically Kasuga & Madoka's
spot) and ignores her!   Hikaru asking in tears "just what was I to you
anyhow!" is another breaker..
	The scene with Madoka thinking of Kyosuke, then starting to break
out in tears hits me as a good scene, but not a great scene..  flashbacks
could have been INCREDIBLY useful (as you mentioned before)..  the few at
the end of the movie were well done..

>
I'm sorry to see the KOR threads die..  (Since I was probably responsible
for starting most of them..).   Thanks to everyone who e-mailed me and
gave me their thoughts and insights about the series and movie..  


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