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From: cbuteau@wpi.WPI.EDU (Christopher W Buteau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: SPAWN #4 Letters page (McFarlane comment)
Date: 28 Sep 1992 15:13:39 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
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Keywords: naked breathless monkey feces

In article <69107@hydra.gatech.EDU> gt5870c@prism.gatech.EDU (Noah White) writes:
>
>  Awhile back I seem to remember a discussion in this group about a riot
>which Liefield (sp? I really don't care) had started at the Sandiego Con.
>I seem to reacall people were saying it was started because he was being a
>gerk, however in Spawn #4 McFarlen comments on the incident saying it was
>Leifelds _popularity_ which caused the riot. Any comments?
>
>-Noah
>
>
I was sooooo disappointed when he said my buddy Rob.
I like McFarlane's art alot.  I like his new book Spawn the
writing is cool so far but I hope he does not do a crossover 
with......Youngblood(aaaaarrrrrRRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!)
that's all I gotta say


-- 
"Women can't live with them... pass the beer nuts" -Norm (Cheers)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics.strips
From: zgilbert@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Zvi Gilbert)
Subject: Re: Life, the Marvel Universe and everything
Followup-To: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:29:08 GMT

j_fitzge@oz.plymouth.edu (Jesse L. Fitzgerald)  writes:
>	Alright, in yesterday's atricle I sorta whined and complained
>about Marvel's death policy, how it related to the X-Men, and how the
>Infinity crossover's started because of it. Today, I feel like talking
>about how Marvel could clean up it's Uni,multi,omni-verse.

rec.arts.comics.strips is not an appropriate group for this subject.

Please take it out of the Newsgroups line, or we will be deluged with 
X-postings!  (Little Marvel joke, there.)

--Zvi
From: intruder@cats.ucsc.edu (Sheila Rani Gurtu)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Simon Bisley Question
Date: 3 Oct 92 10:52:48 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


 > Anyone knows wat Bisley is working on currently ??
 > So sad he's taken out of LoBo.

Did the cover to the latest issue of HEAVY METAL.  Did covers for the last
couple issues of GRENDEL: WAR CHILD.  Watch for a fully-painted Mr. Monster
story by Bisley in MR. MONSTER ATTACKS #3.  Can't say what he's actually
working on right now, though.
From: mkelly@goofus.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman covers and artwork
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:14:27 GMT
Reply-To: mkelly@goofus.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame


 cerebus@engin.umich.edu (Joe Gorde) writes:
|>  lsmith@myria.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:

|> >Let me plug Cages again because I really like the series. It definitely
|> >isn't you're average comic book, but we have enough average comics as it
|> >is already.
|> 
|> Insert another plug for Cages here; this is a great book.  I just wish that
|> the wait between issues wasn't so long.

	Let me also throw my support behind Cages. It is a real treasure
trove. I get the same warm feeling reading it as when I first read JJ Muth's
"Dracula".

	ObIdioticDealer story: I let my dealer know that I was *very* 
interested in getting Cages, she seemed eager to oblige. Then, for the next
six months she would cheerfully present me with my comics, including a copy
of "Cage" (the Marvel comic). Bleah.

-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                  + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +
From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Today's villians...what went wrong?
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:17:56 GMT
Distribution: rec.arts.comics.misc
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <JDEMARCO.92Sep29091849@babyoil.FTP.COM> jdemarco@FTP.COM writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.130845.8555@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen) writes:
>>Of course you realize, that Gideon is just an attempt to make a more KEWL 
>>version of Taskmaster.  As in, "Wouldn't it be KEWL if Taskmaster didn't just 
>>copy reflexes, but powers too?  The he could kick some serious butt!"
>
>This guy sounds _vaguely_ similar to a villain I recall from Marvel's
>"New Universe", namely The Overshadow (he "overshadows" other
>paranormals).  He had some run-ins with the D.P.7 group until he was
>utterly defeated by the Star Brand.

True, but Voigt (Overshadow) had one thing that made him different
from Gideon:  a personality.  Of course, I actually *liked* most
of the New Universe (remember, I said "most," not all), so other
people may have a different opinion.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
Xref: sparky rec.arts.comics.misc:3201 rec.arts.comics:23785
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc,rec.arts.comics
Subject: LNH: Cliche Dude and Halls Jordan (Part 1 of 2)
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Reaching the site for the battle against the Continuity Queen,
Halls Jordan, member of the Ring Around the Collar Corps arrives to
find out that the fighting is over, and the battle won.  
	"Last time I was late, Alt.sex.Lnh.pictures had been destroyed."
	Disappointed, Halls uses his Power Collar Ring(tm) to return him
back to Earth.News. Arriving at the LNH headquarters, he finds most of the
Legionaries have taken a break from the fighting.  Seeing someone at the
monitor screen, Halls pops in a Lemon-flavored Halls and walks over to him.
	Hearing Halls's footsteps, Cliche Dude turns his chair around to face
him. "How's it going, Dude?"
	"I went to help with major crossover that was happening, but since
I was too busy, er um, fighting a whole universe, I did not make it in time."
	"I heard it was some battle. I wish I was there for the final attack.
Whatch'a need anyways?"
	Halls walks over to the console, using it to lean on, "I was
considering to start my own group of super-net-heroes, and so I wanted to 
ask some people to see if they would be interested in joining."
	"Hmmm.  I haven't been the Legion long, and this monitor duty
blows major chunks. Would your group have monitor duty?"
	"NO WAY!! I hate sitting it front of a computer all day, waiting
for something to happen.  I figure we could just plug ourselves into this
system, and if something important comes up, we could pick and choose what
we wanted to do. What do you think?"
	"I think it is a great idea. I'm with you", says Cliche Dude. 
	Surprised that Cliche Dude joined with little effort on his part,
the only thing Halls can say is, "Great. Let's Go.  By the way, do you
want a cough drop?"
	Taking a lemon cough drop from Halls, Cliche Dude puts it in his
mouth, and then writes a note to the Legion. It says, "Dear Legion, During
my short stay with you, I have had alot of fun, and made some new friends,
but I Have to go. A better offer was made, and I know that you would not
want to hold me back. You can consider me to be on the reserved list of
Legionaries, so you can call me if you need me. I will be there. Love and
Kisses, Cliche Dude."

To be concluded next issue.....

*******************************************************************************
"As your Mr.Spock said, The needs of the many outweighed the needs of the few."
"A truism, like most of Spock's Epigrams. But on occasion, I'm afraid, cold
comfort." Jillian and James T. Kirk - "Star Trek - Debt of Honour"
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From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: LNH : Form Application Question
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:47:03 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Oct6.151717.59473@cc.usu.edu> sl859@cc.usu.edu writes:
>In article <BvpCJo.AD1@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.) writes:
>> What is meant by Word Character and Non-Word Character?
>> And when will I get Alt.comics.LNH?
>> ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRGH!!!!!
>> 
>
>This was cleared up in the Alt.Comics.LNH group, and I thought it was
>cross-posted but I guess we missed some.  Anyhow,  It's not a Word Character
>Its a Writer Character.  I misquoted Scav and it confused everyone.  A
>Writer Character is a character that actually cooresponds to someone on
>the net.  This means we keep them alive... (Except D"D"D he's got enough
           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Obscure Trivia Lad seems to remember an exception to this, but his
weakness prevents him from remembering exactly who it is at this
moment.  Anyone else know?       :)

>characters!)  Its like in a RPG when you had a PCs and NPCs, only we don't
>"Play!"  (HEAVEN FORBID!  THIS IS SERIOUS STUFF!)  We Write!
>			
>					wReam...
>				  Ultimate Ninja!!!!
>
>P.S.  Privelages of being a member of the Alt.Comics.LNH!!
>
>P.P.S.  DVANDOM, Please put LNH: in the front of your LNH stuff, so that
>I can pick your's out faster.  Errrr... Forget that, I read all your
>postings anyway! :)

Obscure Trivia Lad, pushin' up daisies and not gettin' alt.comics.lnh.
Some people have the worst luck.

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
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From: zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Zeeshan Hasan)
Subject: Re: Sandman dream artists (no pun intended)
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 21:03:10 GMT
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hmmmm
Bissett and Totleben, doing more stuff from Morpheus' past...

farewell--
--
Zeeshan Hasan 
(zeeshan@occs.cs.oberlin.edu or skh7063@oberlin.bitnet)
OCMR Box 1529, Oberlin, Ohio 44074. Phone:(216)775-6447
	"I love mankind... it's people I can't stand!" - Linus Van Pelt
From: michaele@nagisa.nsg.com.au (Michael J. Edwards)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Printing was Re: Australian comic prices
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:35:28 GMT
Organization: Chamber Militant of the Ordo Malleus
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

JON ARVID LOVSTAD (jonal@dhhalden.no) wrote:
> In article <1992Oct2.181319.11033@unixg.ubc.ca>
> jcomeau@nixg.ubc.ca (Joe Comeau) writes:

< Questions about where the Australian printings are done... >

There was a local company that used to reprint X-Men and the ilk a few
years back.  Usually at a lower quality in both paper and printing.  Not
worth collecting those but they were good as filler until you could get the
original comic. [They used to be a year or two out of kilta]  
As I said this was a few years ago (about six I think) so it might have
changed since them.  Mind you they sometimes printed in B/W!  Unfortunately
de-colourising a comic that was originally colour doesn't work very well as
it leaves the pages looking too bare.  Almost as bad a colourising a
previously B/W comic, apart from the manga there also has been colourised
Tick versions [better than most colourising but I prefer the original] and
Ninja High School in Color which was a disgusting mess...

Michael
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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Organization: The Endless Squids of the Poor
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:28:44 GMT

In article <1992Oct4.025935.23358@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>
>If it *is* Desire trying to kill Destruction's friends, s/he's almost
>certainly breaking the Rules.  In fact, it's not even obvious that
>Destruction is allowed to kill.  (And if there is a prohibition, it
>would be a poor sophistry to forbid killing but allow dropping a
>wall or blowing up a building where the target just happens to be.)

First, let me just say I don't think it's Desire. That's a little too easy.
We're only a third of the way into this arc. If we can figure out what Neil's
doing in the first three issues then I don't think the move has agreed with 
him.

Anyway, while were into speculation, let me suggest that Desire is nothing
if not subtle. While I don't think s/he can kill or directly cause destruction
that does kill, s/he can cause accidents. For example, the man repairing 
a gasline suddenly decides he wants a donut. He takes a break without
making sure the valve is closed. (OK, I don't understand why a valve would
be open, but you get my meaning.) A construction worker becomes infatuated
with a woman he sees walking down the street. He becomes careless. A wall
collapses. That's the way Desire would work. 

We could argue that if Desire really wanted someone dead, s/he would just
convince them they want to join the Dangerous Sports Club or run with the
bulls at Pamplona. That would probably be too obvious. Since Dream's
conversation with his sibling in Doll's House, perhaps Desire would be 
careful to cover his/her tracks.

BTW, someone mentioned that Death just picks up the bodies and doesn't
kill. While this is true, I wonder if it's always the case. She seems to
hasten along Element Girl's demise in Facade and in the prelude to Season,
Death makes a very clear threat to Desire. Maybe we'll find out in January. 
--
     Lance "William Blake?" Smith     |   "Bring me my bat of burning gold!
         (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)          |    Bring me my pine tar of desire!
 "The Cat. He walked by himself, and  |    Bring me my glove! O clouds unfold!
    all places were alike to him."    |    Bring me my fastball of fire!"
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Re: Valor's name destroys time/space continuum
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:27:08 GMT

Actually, the Valor x-over was guest written by PAD and drawn by Pearson (and 
looked GREAT!  Not like his stuff on LSH)
     Dave Van Domelen, needs to have TIM return so he can have a MU* to go to 
when Trek is lagdead or full
From: Alexx@world.std.com (Alexx S Kay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Sandman dream artists (no pun intended)
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:44:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: world.BvpCuo.MMH
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay) writes:

>Phil Foglio, doing Goldie's birthday party.

>(Hey, I could've said Hembeck...)

Actually, although I love Foglio's work, I'd love to see Sergio Aragones
illustrating this one :-)

Alexx

Alexx@world.std.com
"oh no godzilla
 guns and planes cannot stop him
 tokyo is ablaze"
		-- From "hi-tech haikus"
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From: solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Annotation Special 1 Revised
Summary: Death's goldfish
Keywords: sandman annotation
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:13:53 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.113313.1@fnalo.fnal.gov> morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Inherit the Elmo) writes:
>Page 21 panel 1:  Note the family portrait, with Delight, and the issue of
>"Cosmopolitan" magazine.
>	Panel 3:  It has been alleged that the goldfish are named Slim and
>Wandsworth, although I'd like confirmation from a more authoritarian source.
>	There is also the larger question of why Death has only human artifacts
>in her flat.  The Endless are extremely anthropomorphic, and anthrocentric
>(even Eurocentric, if you get right down to it).  The described nature of the
>Endless, however, suggests a very much larger scope to their activities; we
>expect that Death is present for alien deaths as well as for human ones, and
>therefore should evince alien characteristics, at least on occasion.

I've heard that according to Mr. Gaiman, Death's pets are goldfish
because goldfish are the way that so many of us learn about death.


Oh, and by the way: wouldn't you prefer an "authoritative" source?
Well, whatever floats yer boat...

-- 
Andrew M. Solovay       "Work is the curse of the drinking class."
solovay@netcom.com			--Wilde

#include <disclaimer.h>
From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Swamp Thing and Arcane (Was Re: Hellblazer #59)
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:55:51 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The Little Squids in Hell!

In article <b9#pj4n.dani@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith):
>
>>It will be interesting to see how the next long arc of Swamp Thing ties
>>in with all of this. According to the previews, the temporary closing of
>>Hell allowed A. Arcane to come back to earth. 
>
>Is it a long arc?  The advance review I read described ST#125 as a
>self-contained story.

Hmmmm, good question. I checked the blurbs in Advance Comics and #125
is definitely a stand alone. #126 has Swamp Thing playing the part of
a strange hallucinatory character for an underground comics creator.
The blurb was quick to point out the 10 pages of hallucinations. Ooo boy.

However, I thought I read an earlier blurb that Arcane was supposed to stick
around for a long arc in the near future. Perhaps his will be a recurring 
role. Being the pack rat I am, I may have the info somewhere. I'll have to 
take a look for it. 

Certainly wouldn't hurt to have Msr. Arcane back. The predominantly Green
stories are getting a little tired. I could do with some of the old mumbo 
jumbo.
--
     Lance "William Blake?" Smith     |   "Bring me my bat of burning gold!
         (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)          |    Bring me my pine tar of desire!
 "The Cat. He walked by himself, and  |    Bring me my glove! O clouds unfold!
    all places were alike to him."    |    Bring me my fastball of fire!"
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From: dvandom@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David VanDomelen)
Subject: Hero Alliance
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:38:51 GMT

Yay!  It's out at last!  This issue contains three stories:
     Dressing For Success - interlude piece that looks like it was supposed to 
be #18 (at least based on what I can recall from the next issue blurb from 
#17).  One of the Lundelman Lab workers has thoughts about the "Misty" story, 
and foreshadows some kind of revenge against the Alliance.  Probably the 
weakest story in the issue.
     Kelly Girl - a day in the life of Vic Torrence's #2, who actually runs the
spas while he's busy running the Alliance.  Somewhat throwaway appearance by 
Star Girl and Star Beast, probably just to get them into some kind of print.
     Crossing the Threshold - POV from Powerhaus's brother as he (unknowingly) 
tries to drown his sorrows at a bar where Hover's bachelor party is being held.
 Excellent story, psychological without being 'unreal'.  Art was iffy.
     Overall, a good comic, well worth getting if you can find it.
          Dave Van Domelen, thinks they're forgetting which was supposed to be 
the obnoxious Gemini Plus twin, but not too sure on which it is anymore either
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From: hlow@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Handel Low)
Subject: "Alternative Comics" (Was: Image/Marvel "FanBoys"TM)
Organization: No Smoking No Eating No Drinking
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 15:34:23 EDT


I'm probably just rehashing something that's already been discussed
over and over....yeah, this bit with "alternative comics"

First, where I'm coming from:

I used to spend lots on comics...Marvel trash, some DC's, and then
anything that looked neat.  This would be your standard X-mess, 
Punisher, Daredevil, Batman, Spiderman, New Warriors, etc. diet
that would cost me about ten to fifteen dollars a week.

Somewhere along the line I got into Sandman, Doom Patrol, Hate, 
Deadline, and even more of "anything that looked neat."

Somewhere along the line comics get really expensive (not like they
weren't already).

Somewhere along the line I decided that I'd either have to quit
comics totally or make some choices...I went with the neat stuff.

So where was I?  Oh yeah, alternative comics...for me, this thing
about alternative comics sounds pretty snobby.  True, I'm now totally
repulsed by this situation where fanboyism is the engine behind the
comics industry instead of, uh, just plain good taste.  Like maybe
groundbreaking form and technique which presses the borders of
storytelling through the juxtaposition of art and the written word.

Uh...did that sound okay?

Okay, I'm not making much of a case...still, it strikes me as sounding
somewhat snobbish to prance about with "I read alternative comics" as
your credo...

(hope I'm not offending anybody...I'm not meaning to)

...it sort of reminds me of the "alternative music" disease (but that's
an entirely different discussion altogether)...

...I suppose it's just my notion that it would be more appropriate to
say "I read GOOD comics.  I listen to GOOD music."


And by the way, "Animal Man" is now a fine title now that Jamie Delano
and Steve Pugh have taken over.  In my opinion, "Hellblazer" went to
the gutter since they left. 




handel "not in my own backyard" low


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From: mkelly@doofus.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Reply-To: mkelly@doofus.helios.nd.edu (michael kelly)
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Notre Dame
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:10:24 GMT

 sane@cs.uiuc.edu (Aamod Sane) writes:
|> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
|> 
|> >In fact, every little conversation works -- the dog, the little girl...
|> 
|> Any clue who Barnabas is?

I had the impression that the dog (was it Barnabas or Barnabus?) fulfilled
a role similar to Matthew's, i.e. someone for a member of the Endless to
talk with, either as a foil or a straight-man.

I also find myself wondering about these "friends" of Destruction. Could they
be former servants of his realm that simply wandered off when he abdicated?
I forget the names right now (was it Etain who escaped the gas explosion?),
but anyway, after she escaped the explosion, her attitude reminded me of
Brute and Glob's after they found their boss coming after them.

Later tonight I'll check the proper names against their entries in the OED,
after all, it was right about Fiddler's Green....
-- 
+               Mike Kelly, Notre Dame Department of Physics                +
+                                                                           +
+ mkelly@happy.helios.nd.edu          "The more you drive,                  + 
+ mkelly@undhe5.hep.nd.edu                 the less intelligent you are."   +
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