HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Subject: Re: Recommendation for a Comfortable Commuter?
Reply-To: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 92 18:09:43 GMT

In article <848@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com> meb4593@galileo.rtn.ca.boeing.com (Michael Bain) writes:
>	[Michael's story about his upcoming 90+mile commute deleted]
> 
> So, I'm (Desperately) Seeking NetAdvice.
> 
> Requirements:  
>	[all the stuff you'd expect deleted]
> 
> Options?  
> 
> So, I'm tending towards a Harley bagger, Japanese land yacht, maybe
> even a big BMW R bike.  Even *these* behemoths would be better than a
> (blech) cage.  Harleys hold their value well, seem to be easy to work
> on; are rebuild parts relatively cheap?  Used Japanese land yachts can
> be purchased reasonably; are they easy to rebuild?

First of all never commute 90+ miles.  I do 83 round trip and that's
too much.

The Harley might be OK but you'd be in the shop pretty often so you
have to decide if you like hanging around with the Harley crowd while
you are waiting to get your bike back.

The Japanese land yacht is OK, too.  Of course you have to figure in
the cost of all those stuffed animals for the (optional) luggage rack,
the pinstriping, and the light bars.

Since you are considering a HD or JLY you are contemplating parting
with big bucks (like around $14K for a new copy of either out the
door).  So, since money is no object... 

I'd recommend the BMW.  Either an R100RT or the new K1100.  Either
bike will give you good protection from the elements, neither will
make your neighbors regret living next to you, and both have engines
and other components designed to provide many years and several
hundred K miles (no pun intended) of service with just regular
maint.

Seriously though:
The R will be cheaper to maintain (no coolant flush) if you can do
minor adjustments yourself.  The K has a longer service interval
and will be cheaper to maintain if you use a shop (there are fewer
minor adjustments but more things to check).  The R is marginally
less messy to change oil on, but not by much.  On the otherhand
the stock R holds less oil, but burns more than the K.

The R100GS/PD has a 9 gallon tank which might be handy with such
a long commute.  The K has an effective range of about 220 miles.
An R100RT about the same.  The GS/PD probably 80% more.

Sorry for the long winded response.  

-Gary

PS - If you are planning to put 100K miles on the bike then resale
value would only be an issue with the BMW. :-)

-- 
Gary Wasserman      "A completely irrational attraction to BMW bikes"
Interleaf, Inc.      Prospect Place, 9 Hillside Ave, Waltham, MA 02154
grw@ileaf.com        617-290-4990x3423 FAX 617-290-4970       DoD#0216
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer)
Subject: Re: What's a stoppie?
Organization: netmbx, Berlin, Germany
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:34:52 GMT
Keywords: well?

In article <16436@plains.NoDak.edu> wilken@plains.NoDak.edu (Scott Wilken) writes:
>>In article <P50iiB1w164w@ham> ham!emd@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
>>
>>  Yeah, right.  I guess this makes Kevin Schwantz, Wayne Rainey,
>>Mick Doohan, and Randy Mamola all squids, right?  (well, ok, so 
>>Randy _is_ a squid.  I wish I were one).
>>
>
>Yeah, well if my bike weighed 250 pounds, had carbon fiber discs and
>6 piston calipers, id probably be trying to some stoppies too :) :)

No need for that equipment. Just take a stock CBR600F2 and you will do
great stoppies. 
On my NS400R you can also do easy stoppies with stock equipment.

Do a stoppie at full speed is also possible with the CBR600F2 stock
braking system (like the GP stars do) but with the NSR I need better
brakes.

-Axel
-- 
fischer@netmbx.de                                                   DoD #0228
CBR600F2 (street) - NS400R (track)
From: ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Explanations for faster rides...
Date: 13 Apr 92 17:31:10 GMT
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Howdy,

You folks that aren't part of the Carnegie Mellon Community
(affectionately known by the general populous as "that bunch of
nerds") probably didn't get some of the stuff in my post.  So, here's
a dictionary:

Carnival: a time when the nerds get together and waste time making
booths, riding on carnival rides, and pushing small women down hills
(I'll bet you think I'm joking about that one).  Generally the result
is a huge snarl of traffic and much boredom coupled with beer.

Pete: Peter Marcanio, another member of the Carnegie Mellon Riding
Club (we're the folks with the cool t-shirts).  He rides an '82
GPz750, and is known as somewhat of a large crazy person.

Axel: My roommate and also a member of the Carnegie Mellon Riding
Club.  He rides an '83 Inteceptor 750, complete with Ruster pipes and
an only slightly bent frame.  He was my recent partner on a ride to
Atlanta, Georgia (in my post titled something like "1700 miles of
Spring Break").

Nelson Ledges: A local (well, if you live in Pgh, it's as local as it
gets) racetrack.  It's right next to Warren, Ohio, about 2 hours away.
Nelson is know for its lack of track facilites and the bumpy track.

Hope that makes things more clear.

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		DoD #813	|
| ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu		AMA/CCS AM #811		AMA #700560	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '78 KM100 (commute-in-snow)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, exhaust, etc...  |
From: spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BATTERY QUESTION: long slow charge, or quickie?
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:59:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: fido.j7i0tek
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA

jlhaferman@l_eld09.icaen.uiowa.edu (Jeff Haferman) says:
>
>I've always been told that a long slow charge is "better" 
>for a battery than a quick charge.  For example, I have an 
>8 amp/hour charger, which can fully charge a dead motorcycle
>battery in 5 or 6 hours, as opposed to 24 hours using a
>"trickle" charge.

I have a 400 amp arc welder. Can I use it to charge my dead motorcycle
battery in under five minutes?? Gee, why not??

But seriously: The recommended maximum amperage is 10% of the batteries'
amp-hour rating. For instance, your typical 25 amp-hour battery should
be charged at 2.5 amps. (The typical motorcycle battery charger is a
three-amp maximum unit, which works fine).

....paul

-- 
Paul Spencer                  Silicon Graphics Advanced Systems Division
spencer@sgi.com                                Mountain View, California
From: jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: An apology, and a change of .sig
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:49:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: public.6229
Organization: BTR Public Access UNIX, MtnView CA. Contact: Customer Service cs@BTR.COM

In article <1272@adpplz.UUCP> martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding) writes:
>So why can't I stop smiling?

Umm, because a full garage is like a full stomach?

I really didn't need this. I mean, I'm trying real hard to forget about that
low priced Duc that I heard about, and now I hear about Ducati grin. I know
me, and I *know* I'll buy that Ducati. But as hard as I plead to my wallet,
it still says no. Especially after my raise yesterday (bastard fuckheads). 
Please tell us what a terrible bike it is to ride. (It's white? Cool...)

>Martin (no middle name) Golding    |        BMW R100/7  "Britt"
>DoD #236 BMWMOA #55952 WMTC #0002  |  BMW 750/6/2+Ural  "Treaty of Leningrad"
>      and KotP                     |     Ducati 860 GT  "the White Lady"
>                                   |         Yamaha R5  "Dead Ringer"
>[motcsd!]mcspdx!adpgate!martin     |     Yamaha XV750J  "Julia Tiberius"

Does your garage burp when you open the door?

Jim

-- 
*   Jim Franklin * jamesf@btr.com OR {decwrl,mips,fernwood}!btr!jamesf      *
* Yamama 650 Maxim           | "It's not how fast you go on the fast parts, *  
* Triumph 650 (slalom champ) |  it's how fast you go on the slow parts."    * 
* DoD #469          KotP(un) |                           - Dilip Ballamore  *
From: Arnie Skurow <arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: A letter from the Motorcycle Heritage Museum
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 11:04:58 GMT

I received the following letter from Jim Rogers, director of the Museum,
the other day.

"Dear Arnie and all members of the Denizens of Doom:

Congratulations and expressions of gratitude are in order for you and the
Denizens of Doom!  With your recent donation, the total amount donated is
now $5,500.  On behalf of the AMHF, please extend my heartfeld gratitude
to all the membership of the Denizens.  The club's new plaque is presently
being prepared.  Of course, everyone is invited to come to the museum to 
see the plaque that will be installed in our Founders Foyer.  By the way,
I will personally mount a Denizens club pin on the plaque.  Again, thank 
you for all your support, which means so much to the foundation, the
museum, and the fulfillment of its goals.

                                Sincerely,


                                Jim Rogers, D.O.D. #0395
                                Director

P.S.  Please post on your computer bulletin board."

As you all know, even though the letter was addressed to me personally,
it was meant for all of you who purchased DoD goodies that made this
amount possible.


Arnie
From: rja@batcomfs.Eng.Sun.COM (Ninja Squirrel Master)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: DoD ACHIEVES $5,000 PLAQUE AT AMA HERITAGE MUSEUM
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:16:25 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: batcomfs

In article <CMM.0.90.2.702675732.arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Arnie Skurow) writes:
>With the check for $534 that I send the AMA Heritage Museum within the 
>next day or so, WE/YOU DoDers have achieved contributions of ~$5,500+
>dollars to the AMA Heritage Museum.

    Coooool.  How big are these plaques?
>
>There will be a LARGE plaque placed on the Founders' Wall in the name of
>Denizens of Doom, USENET, The World.  
>
>Tracy Banik, the museum Admin Assistant informed me that it takes ~1 
>month for the plaques to be made.  This means that when you DoDers
>visit the museum beginning in mid-May, or sooner, you can be proud
>of yourselves for achieving a major milestone in the museum's donor
>program.

    It would be nice if someone could come up with a scanned in photo
    of this momentous monument for those of us who probably will never
    make to see the place for real.
>
>Thank you, thank you, thank you.

	Thank YOU.
--
    Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.

    "Traditionalists often study what is taught, not what there is to create."
			     - Ed Parker, Grandmaster, American Kenpo.
From: fitch@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Yamaha questions
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:04:43 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

I am looking at an '82 Yamaha Maxim 1100 (seriously good condition, with the
exception of a minor wiring problem and first gear has seen better days) and
would really appreciate some feedback about this cycle.
I've driven some smaller cycles (650-to-750 range) and was considering that
range, but my cycle-riding friends were all in agreement that I buy something
larger even though this is my first cycle purchase.
Comments, Ideas, Suggestions (am I crazy to consider this cycle?).

Thanks,

Ron Fitch
University of Northern Iowa (seriously, people)

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: Arnie Skurow <arnie@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: DoD Caps and Belt Buckles
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 11:00:23 GMT

From the inpouring of mail that I've been receiving, it looks like the 
DoD Caps may be a go and the belt buckles seem to be a favorable item too.

Unfortunately, the mousepads may have to be just another idea.  The cost
of producing 125 or less is prohibitive based on the number of people
who showed a negative interest vs those showing a positive interest.

I'll get further details on the caps and the buckles and post the info
ASAP.

Arnie
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: RE: A NEW CLIPLESS PEDAL
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:25:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> (a sarcastical way of saying that I highly doubt your post has
-> anything to do with automotive driving....)

 Actually, I thought this was rec.motorcycles.  Does someone have a
configuration problem?
                                                   
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:12961 rec.motorcycles.racing:551
From: JPT107@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: Re: Helmet Reccomendations
Date: 12 Apr 92 16:09:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92103.120935JPT107
 <1992Apr8.181350.3984@HQ.Ileaf.COM> <jachies@fido.asd.sgi.com>
 <1992Apr9.150619.5699@HQ.Ileaf.COM>
Distribution: usa
Organization: Penn State University


    There is a guy here in Erie PA that I have seen riding around on a harley,
his helmet is fur coated and has large deer antlers on it!
Now, HE gets noticed!!!

John Thompson
jpt107@psuvm.psu.edu
DoD#0543
From: sasmjw@laverda.unx.sas.com (Martyn J. Wheeler)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Seattle: Anyone out there?
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:29:03 GMT
Reply-To: sasmjw@unx.sas.com
Organization: SAS Institute Inc. Cary NC
Originator: sasmjw@laverda.unx.sas.com
X-Bytes: 758

In article <1992Apr8.094307.5351@vax.oxford.ac.uk>, zetie@vax.oxford.ac.uk (The Edible Dormouse) writes:
>Warning: Edible Dormouse could ne in a place near you, soon!
>
>I'm flying over to Seattle...

Not near me, I'm afraid, but...

Now that the Edible Dormouse and the Mad Hatter will be on the same
side of the pond for a while, does this mean a return of the
long-missed Tom and Ken stories?

...and people wonder where all the good riding posts went! <sigh>

-- 
Martyn
-------------sasmjw@unx.sas.com----(Martyn J. Wheeler)----DoD #293------------
SAS Institute, Inc: (919) 677-8000 ext.7954    H: (919) 839-0092 (Raleigh, NC)
          "If you spin, you deserve to die" -- Mike Hawthorn
       "I love competition, but I hate conflict" -- Alain Prost
From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: "RADAR" for the 90's????
Date: 14 Apr 92 12:47:30 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 6224@atexnet.Atex.Kodak.COM, artc@bacchus.epps.kodak.com (Art Campbell) writes:
>Rumor has it that the Massachusetts staties are equipping unmarked and marked
>cruisers with a speed measuring device called IRD. It's supposed to be an
>infared / visual measuring tool that is accurate to within .1 mph. Rumor also
>says there is no defense because it's a passive device.

The only truly passive device that can measure your speed is a
stopwatch, and that is illegal in many states.

Sounds like an infared radar, and it isn't passive, it just emits in a
frequency range your radar detector isn't tuned to.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mikel@pdx165.intel.com (Mike Lee)
Subject: Re: Bike Locks
Reply-To: mikel@ichips.intel.com
Organization: Workgroup Computing Division, PDX, Intel
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:21:45 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.165303.14578@sei.cmu.edu>, dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Apr15.145339.5281@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
|> |> 	2) U-shaped locks: more of a pain in the ass, but looks more solid;
|> |> 		has theft guarantee which implies they think it's hot shit, 
|> |> 		despite the fact that the guarantee is invalid in NYC;
|> |> 		can be frozen and broken relatively easily.
|> 
|> 
|> Sigh. While it's true that U-locks are fairly easy to break, freezing them is
|> not the way it's generally done -- it's messy, it's slow, and it doesn't work
|> in a lot of cases. The whole bit about bike thieves armed with a can of freon
|> and a hammer just ain't so.
|> 
|> Still, they're harder to go through than a cable lock.
|> 
|> Dan

The Pubic Safety Dept. (intentional sp.) had a display of different locks
and how they could be broken, I guess to persuade people to be more
careful.  Anyway, most U-locks have a long cylindrical section when the
lock is, and right behind it, the bar is mainly hollow so the U section can
fit in.  One of the ways thieves break these locks in to take a LONG piece
of tubung (pipe, etc), fit it over the lock, and pry; the lock snaps at the
section that the U part fits into.  They suggested using the lock at such
an angle or position so that you can't fit something over the end...
  -- 
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|			      SUZ GSXR-1100			 \_____/    |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mfisch@pdx064.intel.com (Matthew Fisch)
Subject: Re: motorcycle from "Black Rain"
Reply-To: mfisch@ichips.intel.com
Organization: Workgroup Computing Division, PDX, Intel
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 02:40:15 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.235856.12912@wpi.WPI.EDU>, mick@maxine.wpi.edu (The Missing Link) writes:
|> In a rare fit of vernacular exposition eugene@uts.EDU.AU (R Rosen) held forth:
|> :- 
|> :- What bike does Michael Douglas ride in "Black Rain" ?
|> 
|> 	wasnt it a harley sporster types ? (i am not sure, but go ahead
|> 	and flame me)... if i remember right he races a japanese sport
|> 	bike (against i dont remember the make) ... well u get the
|> 	general idea 9since he wins too ;) ...
|> 

  I believe that the bike he races is a disguised (paint job) Katana 1100.


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|                          #75 - Team Banana Racing 			     |
|				SUZ GSXR-1186				     |
|									     |
|  "Just a little too much right hand and the Australian Grand Prix is over  |
|   for Kevin Schwantz..."						     |
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From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Bike for 1st time rider: Honda 126/Harley XL 175?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 20:34:11 GMT

osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.155442.26853@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>>Honda, on the other hand, often boasts that you can purchase, though
>>sometimes on special order, any part for any Honda motorcycle ever built.

>"Guidroz claims the 3E is one of just 20 known to exist, and he says that
>rarity governs its worth, which he places between $5000 and $7500.  If
>restored, the Dream might go for as much as $12,000, Guidroz says."

>So, the claim on the table is that I can order any part for any Honda
>ever made.  Therefore, I should be able to stop by my local Honda
>dealership and order every part I need to assemble a '53 Honda 3E Dream.

>I propose, in true DOD style, that we all head down to our local Honda
>parts counter and try to order a part for this beast.  The real test, of
>course, would be to order a frame.  But, I'll ask about something smaller,
>like a carb (or maybe just a piston ring).

And after we get all the parts, and assemble it, then it can be the
official DoD Raffle bike!
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland        580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108
blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  uunet!javelin.sim.es.com!blgardne  BIX: blaine_g
DoD #46               My other motorcycle is a Quadracer.              FJ1200
From: shz@garage.att.com (Seth Zirin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: NJ State HOG Rally 6/28/92
Date: 10 Apr 92 19:13:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HOG - Northwest Jersey Chapter

The New Jersey State HOG rally is scheduled for 6/28/92 at the
Sussex county fairgrounds at the northern end of the state.
Pre-registered admission will be $5.

How many of you HOG denizens plan to attend?

Seth Zirin
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 12:30:47 -0400 
From: "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: A new clipless pedal i saw at the local bikeshop
	<9204151504.AA08469@vuse.vanderbilt.edu>


David A. Braun <dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> writes to me personally:

>In article <Mdv3tW_00UhW42m2Rs@andrew.cmu.edu> you write:
>>Listen, Jonathon, would you plese go back to rec.bicycles where you belong?
> 
>Peter,
>There is a difference between a Followup and a Reply.
>A Followup goes back to be posted in all of the newsgroups listed.
>A Reply goes back to the individual.


David,

Sounds like some sort of RULE, and as such is wasted on me. 

>If you are going to take the time to flame him for wasting your time
>by posting in the wrong newsgroup then you should either make it
>a personal relpy or else FLAME HIM ROYALLY so that we all may be amused.

My whatever it was was definietly not a flame, it was a reasonably
polite REQUEST that he post in, what is in my opinion, the appropriate
place.  It frequently happens that a BBoard gets put on a distribution
list for some appropriate reason and then people forget to take it off
when the flame flickers and dies.

When I flame, you'll know it.  The self-proclaimed KotF will know it. 
The WORLD will know it.

>Otherwise WE DON'T CARE.  Thank you.

It's all pee holes in the snow as far as I'm concerned, too, so please
don't waste my time replying to this.

Thanks for your sincerely motivated, I am sure, attempt to keep this
bboard free from democracy.

Peter "Goofy Trails" Simon

"Ride and post free"

(And just fucking drop this bicycle shit, all right?  I drive a bicycle,
I drive a motorcycle, I drive a car, I drive a submarine, I drive
myself, some people drive airplanes, some people drive slaves AND WE
HAVE OUR SEPERATE BULLETIN BOARDS FOR THOSE THINGS which we read when
we're motivated.  SO WHO THE FUCK WANTS TO READ ABOUT BICYCLES WHEN
THEY'RE LOOKING AT REC>MOTORCYLCES?  I mean really folks, use your
noggins. :-?)



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