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From: aed@netcom.com (Andrew Davidson)
Subject: Re: surfers who windsurf
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:19:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.180832.5058@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca> hgray@mta.ca writes:
>Any you guys windsurf?  If so, I was wondering if your technique
>turning the board helps you in your jibes, bottom turn, etc.  I
>always thought that it would at least help your balance, but I wasn't
>sure how it would affect your turns.  
>
>Regards
>Harvey

basicaly it is something to do during the summer. In the San Fran
area, we only get good surf in the winter, and only get good wind in
the summer( in general). In general I think surfing has helped me
greatly with my balance windsurfing, and windsurfing has help me with
my strength surfing. (at the very least it keeps me from getting out
of shape during the summer)

Andy

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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: Re: What's the point
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 03:22:32 GMT

dirk@cats.ucsc.edu (Jonathan William Wisler) writes:

>why rhyme 
>to pass the time
>until the green
>can be seen

What sort of green ? I mean I can think of two things here.
If you are not artistically compromised do you mind explaining ?

>not from a computer screen
>know what I mean

>P.S. pretty stupid
No,not really,quite good really !
N.
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From: flynn@cats.ucsc.edu (Eric Alan Flynn)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surf Report Santa Cruz 11/15
Date: 16 Nov 1992 01:40:06 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu
Keywords: surf report


Set out for the dawn patrol this morning with the intention of surfing
Shark's cove, but the swell was small and from the wrong direction, so
I ended up at Middle Peak near Pleasure Point.  Waist to shoulder high
with head-high sets.  Almost calm, very glassy and hollow.  Got crowded
real quick, however.  Must've been 30 people out by 7:30!  Oh well, good
waves have a way of attracting crowds.  Good session, though.  Having
to work and go to school at the same time really sucks, especially when
you'd rather be surfing!

Good waves to all,

Eric
 


Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: A few exam stress relaeasers.... :-)
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 06:31:08 GMT

Howdy Crew,

I've had a few one hour surf's that have been good.
Bye,
Nigel.
PS More Study to do.... GRRRR
PPS Just thought I'd let you all know I'm still in the line-up.
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From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surfing In Rain
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:40:27 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.surfing, clp@mezon.Corp.Sun.COM (Chuck L. Peterson) writes:
>I have no experience with this and was wondering if others
>have found it terribly unpleasant to surf in the rain.

I have found it to be a good way to keep the crowds down. You are wet
anyway so who cares about rain......lightning on the other hand.....

Brian
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: p-kun@blacklabel.Japan.Sun.COM (Kevin Parrington - Nihon Sun Logistics)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Surfing In Rain
Date: 20 Nov 92 03:39:00 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: blacklabel.japan.sun.com

In article <lgnl7oINNd3d@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> clp@mezon.Corp.Sun.COM (Chuck L. Peterson) writes:
>I have no experience with this and was wondering if others
>have found it terribly unpleasant to surf in the rain.


	I've surfed in the rain on only a few occasions.
	It dosn't bother me as long as there's no
	lighting.  I figure, I'm wet already, right ?!?! ;^)

kp
From: emg@dorg.csd.sgi.com (Eric Grodberg)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Santa Cruz Board Repair
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:30:22 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: dorg.csd.sgi.com

The Haut Shop on Swift St.  does pro repairs.  I think they charge about $30/fin.

In article <lgiokmINN8ld@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM>, clp@mezon.Corp.Sun.COM (Chuck L. Peterson) writes:
|> Anyone know of a cheap and good place to get a surfboard
|> repaired in Santa Cruz?  I have two fins which need to
|> be pasted back onto the board and numerous "dings".
|> 
|> clp
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: kieffer@spf.trw.com (Robert Kieffer)
Subject: Re: Surfing In Rain
Organization: TRW Inc., Redondo Beach, CA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 17:46:36 GMT

In article <lgnl7oINNd3d@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> clp@mezon.Corp.Sun.COM  
(Chuck L. Peterson) writes:
> I have no experience with this and was wondering if others
> have found it terribly unpleasant to surf in the rain.
> 
> clp

Actually guite pleasent as long as the wind isn't real vicious.  Kind of  
weird switching between clean showers between sets and dips in "salt  
brine".

Robert Kieffer
kieffer@spf.trw.com
From: ce425@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Danny Z. Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: New Job - Texas..."Not"
Date: 18 Nov 1992 19:02:15 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


If you really want to surf PV, just tell the locals you are from 
Oxnard, walk tall, and carry a big stick!

Danny
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Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: danny@suned1.Nswses.Navy.Mil (Danny Z Clark)
Organization: NSWSES Code 4g13 - Opinions: None
Subject: Oxnard Surf is *on*
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:47:55 -0800
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  As I write this my nose is dripping salt water on my
keyboard.  I had a *great* lunch surf.  A storm that
just passed by us has brought a large (10-12ft face) west
swell. The sets were 15ft easy. Wind was offshore.
  Best wave was also my big wipeout.  A big set wave 
was coming and two surfers had driven me farther into
the peak than I would have wanted to be.  While paddling
I hooted the the two surfers off (I love to do that), and dropped
in.  I made a big drawn out bottom turn and then pulled
up under the lip.  I was now in the barrel, looking out
the end, when something happened.  The wave either
closed out big time, or I got sucked up the face (most
likely).  Anyway, it happened very fast and I was hit
by large quantities of water, that found its way into every 
orifice of my body (lucky only the nose is dripping!)
  I caught several other memorable waves, including
a very long (50yds) ride. I was right in the pocket and
didn't have to move a muscle the whole way.  I just
laid on my board and enjoyed the view.
  Well, back to work.

Danny

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From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: New Job - Texas..."Not"
Date: 18 Nov 92 13:06:44 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics, University of Bath, UK

In the referenced article, mheron@samson.hac.com (Mark Heron) writes:
>

>If anyone has any comments regarding PV and SPedro surfing spots/experiences they
>care to share with me or the world, please post them now or mail me by the end of
>the week at:

All I can say is walk tall and carry a big stick or an Uzi.  San Pedro
and PV rank with Oxnard as having the worst localism in California.
I've never had problems there, but I've had friends of mine get
beat up and have gangs chase them with baseball bats.  It's a wealthy
area and there's lots of spoiled rich kids with nothing better to
do than be territorial.  Lots of good-looking girls though.

I met a guy in Mundaka that said he grew up within sight of the PV cove,
but never surfed there due to the nasty vibes.  He usually headed up
to Torrance or Hermosa.

I wish I could be more positive.  Get a local board and try and make
friends with the locals.  Better yet, move to Huntington, you'll get
more waves to yourself and have less hassles.

Chris
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: kuchinka@beaufort.sfu.ca (Brian D Kuchinka)
Subject: need board advice
Keywords: board advice
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: us
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:12:15 GMT

To all non-gorbys
      I am about to finally take the plunge and buy a board.
In the past I have rented/borrowed boards in the 7'4 to 
7'0 range.  I have used these in a number of places in the 
Pacific Northwest from Oregon to Long Beach, Vancouver Island.
I want something that will be useful in many different conditions
over the next few years.  I will be surfing from here to Central 
America over the next year.  For instance I have never used one
but think that a 6'8 seems to be useful in many areas without 
being too difficult for a beginner.  Any ideas?
     Any information would be appreciated.
Thanks, Brian.
From: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Re: Clubbies
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:44:45 GMT
Reply-To: kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Brian Kiviat)
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD

In alt.surfing, njtravis@ux5.lbl.gov (Nancy Jean Travis) writes:
>What's a Clubbie?

I'm still waiting for the Oztralian/American slang dictionary to come
out.
Clubbies...spot on....marmite/vegemite...Kombi....cungee...
Inquiring Seppos want to know

   O                                        You don't stop surfing
   I\   Brian Kiviat (301)227-1833          when you grow old,
   I \  kiviat@oasys.dt.navy.mil            you grow old
  /     David Taylor Model Basin            when you stop surfing.
   \___________________________
			     \\
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: u8801863@cs.uow.edu.au (Nigel Brendon Robinson)
Subject: Re: Swell increase: West Aust.
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:41:42 GMT

smith@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au (Meggzie) writes:

>In article <1992Nov19.172842.1@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au>,
>g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au wrote:

 >> Lud, I predict you guys will be getting a sizeable swell increase over the next couple of days cause its all coming your way.

>I second that proposal.

Well,I dunno if the swell you predicted is the one I surfed today but,
it sure as hell has picked up.

Nigel.
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From: clp@mezon.Corp.Sun.COM (Chuck L. Peterson)
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
Subject: Surfing In Rain
Date: 19 Nov 1992 17:55:04 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mezon.corp.sun.com

I have no experience with this and was wondering if others
have found it terribly unpleasant to surf in the rain.

clp
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: smith@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au (Meggzie)
Subject: Re: Swell increase: West Aust.
Followup-To: alt.surfing
Organization: External Studies, Murdoch University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:09:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.172842.1@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au>,
g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au wrote:

<shit hanging on Clubbies deleted...>
 
> Only joking Meggzie. Shit weather over here isnt it! Last night I thought my 
> flat was going to get blown away with the howling westerlies. They peaked at
> about 40 knots last night and trashed a few houses on the way. At least they
> brought in a Hellish swell.

The swell at Freo was 100% pure slop up to about 7pm last night when it
seemed to settle down.  We actually had 5' dumpers in front of the club
house.  There were about 8 diehards out on boards and a couple of grommets
trying to impress the girls on their bodyboards.  No other news from that
front.  Weather has picked up today though!
 
> Lud, I predict you guys will be getting a sizeable swell increase over the next couple of days cause its all coming your way.

I second that proposal.

Meggzie
"When facing a difficult task, act as though it is impossible to fail.  If
you are going after Moby Dick, take along the tartare sauce."
Newsgroups: alt.surfing
From: smith@csuvax1.murdoch.edu.au (Scott Smith)
Subject: Re: Clubbie sinks at City Beach W.Australia
Followup-To: alt.surfing
Organization: External Studies, Murdoch University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 01:10:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.181440.1@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au>,
g_elliott@fennel.cc.uwa.oz.au wrote:

> Im not putting shit on Clubbies, I know you were one. 
	                                             ^^^^

I am one still, no past tense.

Meggzie
Newsgroups: alt.polyamory,alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.callahans
From: keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen)
Subject: Re: Why I don't use the word "Love" very much
Organization: Murdoch University
Date: 17 Nov 92 02:30:02 GMT

oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:

>In article <1992Nov15.114740.783@midway.uchicago.edu>, mbr2@quads.uchicago.edu (Curious Of All Natures) writes:
>>	This is very important to remember!  People do not mean the same
>>thing by "love" that you do.  If someone asks "Do you love me?" and you
>>answer "yes" without elaboration, they will walk away thinking you feel
>>what "love" means to _them_ and they won't have learned about your own
>>unique feelings and desires and beliefs.
>>
>Okay, so the next time someone says "I love you," should they get the third
>degree?  Shall I respond with, "What do you mean by _that_?" or "How do _YOU_
>define love?"

Of course they shouldn't get the third degree (removes some of the romance
of the situation, no?); I think what COAN was trying to suggest was that
we should perhaps be aware of the possible misunderstandings that can
arise from such a glibly used phrase as "I love you".

Splash!

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From: jlw3y@algol.astro.Virginia.EDU (Jennifer Wesp)
Newsgroups: alt.polyamory
Subject: Tired of crossposts.
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:00:54 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

Sigh.  I saw that there were 26 articles in alt.poly when I fired up
rn & got all psyched, only to have my kill file nuke all of them as
being x-posted to more than 2 other groups.  Sigh.

-jennifer
Newsgroups: alt.polyamory,soc.singles,alt.pagan,misc.kids
From: markbr%radian@natinst.com (markbr)
Subject: Re: raising children
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:05:41 GMT
Organization: n.o.y.b

In article <1992Nov22.030240.26650@spdcc.com> pentangl@spdcc.com (Scott Moir) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov19.000618.19319@radian.uucp>, markbr%radian@natinst.com
>>(markbr) says:
>>>ABSO-FUCKING-LUTLY!!!!! Isn't marriage & creating kids, to be inserted into
>>>society, at *least* as requiring of training as getting a drivers' license?
>>>
>>>I want there to be a *requirement* for a marriage license that you have
>>>taken an approved course (like the defensive driving courses) on parenting,
>>>and one on relationships.
>
>I would rather that people who -are- currently parents be certain to make
>an effort to teach thier own kids what relationships are really about. The
>parents would be in the best position to teach this as well, by showing
>direct examples. This sort of change is something that takes time. 
>
>There can be some addressing of this (especially communications skills) in
>schools. But I don't think I want the government at any level having the 
>power handed to them to teach our kids anything so basic. 
>
The trouble with that lovely idea is that a) many don't, b) there's a hell
of a lot more out there that are lousy parents (i.e., we're outnumbered).
And what I was suggesting was not gov't run. Haven't you ever had to take
(e.g.) a defensive driving course to get a ticket rescinded? Those are
*private* but *accredited*.

	mark
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From: quark@asylum.UUCP ( No wonder I'm lost...)
Newsgroups: alt.polyamory,alt.romance,alt.sex,alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Why I don't use the word "Love" very much
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:33:21 GMT
Followup-To: alt.polyamory

keulen@possum.csu.murdoch.edu.au (Mike van Keulen) writes:
>oopcv@Msu.oscs.montana.edu writes:
>>Okay, so the next time someone says "I love you," should they get the third
>>degree?  Shall I respond with, "What do you mean by _that_?" or "How do _YOU_
>>define love?"

>Of course they shouldn't get the third degree (removes some of the romance
>of the situation, no?); I think what COAN was trying to suggest was that
>we should perhaps be aware of the possible misunderstandings that can
>arise from such a glibly used phrase as "I love you".

What I've tried to do since I came to the 'people love in different ways'
realization is to bring it up early in a relationship.  Often it just comes
up without any planning.  One night we might be having a talk on the nature
of reality and how differently different people percieve it.  This for me,
leads naturally into the what I mean when I say I love you.  I also try to
keep the person updated when I realize that the meanings changed.  Both
realizing that it's changed, and then communicating the change to somone
who thinks they have my definition can be really hard.  This holds equally
true for me no matter what direction the change seems to be going.  I do
feel that making the effort is, for me, a key part of having a relationship
stay alive...

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Newsgroups: alt.polyamory,soc.singles,alt.pagan,misc.kids
From: aaldrich@encore.com (Al Aldrich)
Subject: Re: raising children
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:46:36 GMT

aaldrich@encore.com (Al Aldrich) writes:

>changes that we and the kids go through. I don't think a `curse' could
							  ^^^^^^^
WOOPS!! Talk about fruedian slips..:-) I meant `course' not `curse'..
								
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From: rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz)
Newsgroups: alt.polyamory,alt.romance,soc.singles,alt.sex,alt.pagan
Subject: Re: Religious bigot ?
Date: 15 Nov 92 08:09:23 GMT
Organization: The Armory

In article <1dv3pbINNi0@manuel.anu.edu.au> Lubosh.Hanuska@anu.edu.au (Lubosh) writes:
>In article <ewright.721346941@convex.convex.com> Edward V. Wright,
>ewright@convex.com writes:
>>>Out of ALL of the people in school I am close to, I
>>>and ONE OTHER PERSON are the only people to grow up in normal families.
>>>Everyone else?  Two alcoholic parents, one religious fundie, 
>>
>>Ordinarily, anecdotal evidence doesn't prove very much, but in
>>this case you have shown that someone from a "normal family" 
>>can grow up to be a religous bigot.
>It might not be any of my business, but I think that Edward misunderstood
>the posting, since Janis was referring to somebody else as a religious
>fundamentalist ... Just be careful folks, or try to define what a
>religious bigot is (at least I'd like to understand what do you mean by
>that... :-)
>Lubosh
--------------------------
"Bigot" COMES from people being pissed at the revival preachers
carrying on with the entire geneology with all the begot's in it, so
they started calling them bigots. A Fundie is a person with no clue as
to modern thought. When they are the assholes, intentionally, one can
hardly be "bigotted" against them. That's like saying we're bigotted
against bigots. Of course we are, but that's not bigotry, it's good
sense.
- Steve 

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Newsgroups: alt.polyamory,soc.singles,alt.pagan,misc.kids
From: reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland)
Subject: Re: raising children
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:48:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.000618.19319@radian.uucp> markbr%radian@natinst.com (markbr) writes:

>I want there to be a *requirement* for a marriage license that you have
>taken an approved course (like the defensive driving courses) on parenting, 
>and one on relationships.

Oh great, another opportunity for the government to butt into people`s
private lives.  Just what this country needs.  The idea that the
government has any business trying to control people's personal
relationships is precisely the kind of thinking that gave Colorado it's
new anti-gay law.  I hope you enjoy the company you're in.

What about people who don't have the time or money to take these
"approved" courses?  They can't get married?  And "approved" by whom?
What will be the "correct" curriculum?  Who gets to decide what a
"correct" relationship is?  What "correct" parenting is?  I suggest
that these are best decided by the people involved, and not the
government.  You know, freedom, that silly old concept?

I agree whole-heartedly that a course in parenting or in relationships
can do people a lot of good.  I've personally benefited from both.  I
also would hate to see the government get involved.  Just because
something is a good idea doesn't mean it should be the law.

Repeat that last sentence until enlightenment occurs.

=====================================================================
Reid Kneeland
reid@tti.com  (that's MISTER reid@tti.com to you!)
Transaction Technology Inc., Santa Monica, CA, USA (310) 450-9111 x2499
The opinions expressed above do not necessarily etc etc...

Never trust a man who can count to 1,023 on his fingers.
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