From: leitm@solb1.essex.ac.uk (Leith M F)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: English Soccer
Date: 6 Nov 92 11:46:11 GMT
Reply-To: leitm@essex.ac.uk (Leith M F)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

In article <1992Nov5.134636.11412@fwi.uva.nl> bronstri@fwi.uva.nl (Mischa Bronstring) writes:
>
>Hello!
>
>We think English soccer #%$%#@$%s.

We couldn't give a #%$%#@$% what you think!
However, blatant bulls**t like yours deserves reply, to be put in its place.

>Explanations: English teams don't know anything about tactics.
>But, the English posters on this group always pretend as if their soccer
>is world-class! So much fuss about nothing...
>
English teams have different tactics to Dutch teams, that doesn't mean they 
don't know anything about tactics.  Of course, we feel very impressed by 
superb Dutch tactics which braught them a 2-1 defeat to Norway.  HAH!

>We mean, Blackburn Rovers on top of the league... A promovendus...
>And then the way they are on top: far too many draws and losses for a real 
>top team. Here in Holland, for example, a team will never be first after
>that many rounds with that many lost points! PSV here is first in the
>league, but they're still chased by Ajax, Feyenoord and FC Twente, even 
>while they've only lost 2 points in 10 matches now!
>
Listen, ignoramous, the sign of a competitive league is not a few clubs
pissing away at the top and winning everything. 
Here, the fact Blackburn have not been having it all their own way shows
we have more clubs that can challenge for the top.  It is good for 
fans to know that even the bottom clubs can give the top ones a run for
their money.  
>You see it again in the European Cup-tournaments: Only Glasgow Rangers
>(allright, it's Scottish) plays further, and we think it's only because
>they've played Leeds Utd. If they'd played against a continental team
>(well, not Austrian, Swiss, Norwegian, or something like that) they'd
>been kicked out, we're sure!

Leeds knocked out a top German side in the last round.  Are you going to
argue that they were weak opposition ?  Also, I seem to remember Man Utd
winning the Cup Winners Cup recently.  Rangers have enough class to
give any team a tough match, plus they were a bit flattered by the
scoreline at Leeds. 

>Conclusion: There are no real top-teams in England! It's a 'unity-
>sausage', as we use to say in Dutch. You sure feel what that means!

Rather, let us say we had a bad time in Europe this season, and leave it
at that.  There is plenty of good football being played in this country.
And good football does not necessarily mean one-touch precision passing
and banana kicks.  There is such a thing as a good long ball game.

>- We'd like our theory proven (e.g. PSV gets into the same poule as
>  Rangers),

This will certainly amuse the Rangers fans, having the honour of English
football to uphold.  They'll be cracking up laughing at your post.

>- We'd like to give you all a tip: DREAM ON!!!

O.K, DJ Sven, we'll be dreaming of Holland getting beaten by England twice
in the World Cup qualifiers.  Even if that doesn't happen, your opinions
are still worth diddly squat.  Alltogether now folks, 
OOhhhhhhhhhh   YOU'RE S**T   AAARRRRGHHHHHHH !!! 
>
>PS: We do like your ambiance!
>Sidney vd Poll     (Ajax-fan, vdpoll@fwi.uva.nl)
>Mischa Bronstring  (PSV-fan, bronstri@fwi.uva.nl)
>
P.S
Three cheers for the sportsmanship in Dutch international football.
Players like "Gobber" Rijkard and "hacker" Koemann do so much for the
image of the game.

P.P.S
We love you Denmark, we do, we love you Denmark, we do ....

Mig.