HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: daved@convex.com (David Dorfman)
Subject: Re: Gang FAQ'd by the DoD!
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:13:10 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1993Jan5.182812.7686@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Tom Gent) writes:

>In article <1993Jan3.132616.22455@news.arc.nasa.gov> howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curt Howland) writes:
>>
>>Good work, all. We now return you to your
>>regularly schedualled helmet war....
>>

>Hi, everyone.  I'm new to this group, and was thinking of buying a bike.
>What I was wondering, though, is whether you guys recommend that I get
>a helmet?  I've heard that they mess up your hair and obstruct your
>vision, but may be good to have in a crash.  I don't think I will crash 
>though, my neighbor is a pretty good teacher.  Also, are there any laws
>concerning helmets that I should be aware of?

YES YES YES, you should most certainly get a helmet, I suggest one of those 
world war one german helmets with the big spike on top. After you get the helmet
ride directly to Colorado, ask the first person that you see if they voted for 
proposition 2, if they say yes implant your spiked helmet directly into their
chest and scream the following.

"THAT WILL TEACH YOU TO MESS WITH MY GAY BIKER FRIENDS"


Oh, and don't forget to make sure your first bike is a Yamaha FZR1000.



Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Mounting speakers
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:57:47 GMT

Christopher Bradley Devlin (cd1i+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:

:    Speaking of headphones, does anyone know if they're legal in PA?

: Devlin

: DoD #787
: CB350F
: Government model 1911 Colt .45
:   (Why the hell are we listing guns?)

I don't know of anywhere in the world where headphones are illegal.

If your gun(n?) is listing, stand it(her) back upright again.


Nick  (the facetious Biker with a good editor again, now)  DoD 1069 Small -
                                 - Brass Gun shaped lighter for the gas cooker.

M'Lud.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Tom Gent)
Subject: Re: Gang FAQ'd by the DoD!
Organization: NASA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 18:28:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.132616.22455@news.arc.nasa.gov> howland@noc2.arc.nasa.gov (Curt Howland) writes:
>
>Good work, all. We now return you to your
>regularly schedualled helmet war....
>

Hi, everyone.  I'm new to this group, and was thinking of buying a bike.
What I was wondering, though, is whether you guys recommend that I get
a helmet?  I've heard that they mess up your hair and obstruct your
vision, but may be good to have in a crash.  I don't think I will crash 
though, my neighbor is a pretty good teacher.  Also, are there any laws
concerning helmets that I should be aware of?


Tom Gent
"If I keep this up, I'll have to get one o' them numbers."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady)
Subject: Re: Honda CX500 Turbo
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:14:13 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

>> About how much would one expect to pay for a CX500 Turbo (77hp, fuel-
>> 
>> Does anyone have any personal experience with the performance/handling 
>> characteristics of the bike?
>
The first year there were about 1500 made. I remember that is was something
like one for each dealer. I bought mine new about a year after it came out.
The dealer in Manchester NH was willing to let it go for much less than
the new cost (which was f*cking sizeable in those days).

It was a blast. I had a "Deluxe" CX500 (UJM shape, but much better looking than
the original CX) at the time also and the Turbo was a hell of a lot more fun.
Since it was so heavy, it was pretty docile if you were not on turbo boost,
but you better be over the tank if you screwed it on! It was the 1st Honda
street bike that I could wheelie on! You had to be careful where you went
onto turbo boost -- I almost high-sided it by nailing it too early in a corner.
It had one of Honda's early anti-dive forks (TRAK, I think). The front disk
pads could swing fractionally along the arc of the disk; this iris'ed a 
damping disk down in the fork leg that prevented the forks from diving. Worked
pretty well for its time. The Turbo had TRAK on both forks, where some of the
other Honda cycles only had it on 1 fork leg. It was kind of tall and heavy,
but worked pretty well on the whole. Compared to my Goof2, the Goof could run
away and hide from the Turbo on the back twisties pretty easily, given the same rider.

I miss the one I had, and was sorry I had to sell it (in order to make the
downpayment for our house). If I found another one in good condition I'd consider
it. If you do buy it, I have the shop manual and could be persuaded to make
a copy if it is no longer obtainable from Honda. Remember it was a low volume
bike. Almost all the parts except for some of the CX engine parts are special
and probably incredibly expensive to replace (like the skins, the engine computer).
I also have the original dealer literature book on it if you need some specs.

--pete

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Pete Brady                              EMAIL: brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Until 8 Jan 93)
Dirtbag Contractor from Hell(tm)        PHONE: 508-436-5226 (Until 8 Jan 93)

"...would Godzilla ride a Japanese bike if one were big enough?" -- Curt Nelson

DoD #5831 -- '92 CBR600F2 (on winter sabbatical :-( )
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Engine Theory 101
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 03:26:33 GMT

egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Cog Cruncher) writes:

>Last time I checked, ALL truck drivers shifted clutchless.

	Then you were mistaken.  The primary transmission requires the
clutch be used (and many models require double-clutching since there ar
no synchros).  The secondary side, as in a two-speed rear axle or the
like, can be shifted without clutching.

< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "Are you *SURE* he's worth a Harley-Davidson?" -- my grandmother  >
< to my girlfriend, about me.  "I'd better not say" -- my girlfriend >
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bleve@hoggle2.uucp (Bennett Lee Leve)
Subject: Corbin seat problems
Organization: Starved Photo-Linux Hackers Association
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 01:22:56 GMT



I bought a Corbin for my V-65 Sabre several years ago because the
original seat started to tear.  The original seat was 4 years old
before it started to rip.  I thought if I buy a relly good seat, it
should last longer.  Well, this is not the case with my Corbin.
The Corbin started cracking after 2 years.  I realize that the Corbin
is more comfortable, and actually fits snugger than the stock, but
shouldn't it last longer?  I called Corbin and asked them about it
and they told me it would take them 2 weeks to recover the seat.
The part that bothers me is that they want $80.00 to do the job.

Has anyone else confronted Corbin with the same problem?
If I do send it to them, should I request a material other than
the material with the indentions, (as that was the stuff that cracked)?

I feel that it is the materials that failed here and that they should
repair it at cost.  

--





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From: jwills@ISI.EDU (Jerry Wills)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Test from Antique BMW Rider
Date: 5 Jan 93 02:49:44 GMT
	<1992Dec30.163755.22267@cbnewsj.cb.att.com>
	<1992Dec30.174923.16873@i88.isc.com>
Distribution: na
Organization: USC-ISI
In-reply-to: jeq@i88.isc.com's message of 30 Dec 92 17:49:23 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.174923.16873@i88.isc.com> jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
   >>
   >>Regards,
   >>Craig Vechorik
   >>BMW MOA Ambassador
   >>BMW Vintage Bulletin Tech Editor
   >>at a "borrowed Email address of lgt1@ra.msstate.edu
   >>:
   >
   >Welcome Craig!
   >
   >I guess real BMW's also have round headlights too?  Enjoyed recent article
   >in MOA about your R2.  There was some discussion here about the picture that
   ...



   AAAH!

   We're getting crosspostings to a BMW magazine!

   Duck and cover!
   -- 
   Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation



  I Think, Cover the Duc is more in line.

	Jerry
From: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Hurray!
Date: 4 Jan 1993 20:20:32 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu

In article <1993Jan4.182335.15385@noao.edu> morin@noao.edu (Meg Morin) writes:
>Thanks, Ed!

Getabike, Ed.

>(now if I can just get a moto!)
>Meg

Getabike, Meg.


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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Lucas (was Re: Dear Abby sez...)
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:07:49 GMT

Dave Munroe (dmunroe@vcd.hp.com) wrote:
: emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca writes:

: >I wonder if Joseph Lucas (aka The Prince of Darkness) descended from a 
: >lawyer. That might explain English electrical cr.....er systems!

: 	"Gentlemen do not go motoring about at night"

: 					- Joseph Lucas

: -Dave

We also had Michael Faraday, you know!  He invented the damn things!

Just because of a bit of a problem we had with QC doesn't give you the right
to upset the rest of us Brits.  

Hey, we gave you lot RADAR, too!  It was at the strict agreement that you would
not use it for military purposes!  Liars!!!

There's nothing wrong with the electrics of my bike.... oh damn, it's Bosch!
Phooooieee!

Nick (the Indignant Biker)   DoD 1069   Small Brass Gun-Shaped Cooker Lighter

M'Lud.
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Attn Jody!! Your bra for...
Date: 4 Jan 93 17:01:51 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


	Your bra for my Kilt...Its Wool, its made in Scotland...Its
	made out of the hair of little Scottish Sheep...It was walked
	by real Scotswomen (the wool)...the wool was dyed by Real
	Scotsman...The Dyed wool was woven by real Scotsweavers and the
	kilt was made by a real Scots Tailors....it is in Short
	Scottish...Through and through...Would you care for some haggis
	as well?? Perhaps a Blamonge?

				Ryan the Scot...
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: First Bike Opinions
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering, Inc., Sunnyvale, CA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:49:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan13.000649.17619@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>In article <76568@apple.apple.COM>, robg@Apple (Rob Griffiths) writes:
>>In article <C0rGtp.685@synoptics.com> noemi@synoptics.com writes:
>>>Re: picking up a bike as a requisite to owning it:
>
>>One additional point here.  Don't overlook the effectiveness of adrenalin
>>and rage!
>>
>>When I dumped my last bike (CBR600, ~430 lbs) in a low-speed get off, it
>>wound up in a fairly deep ditch, resting almost upside down.  Somehow, I
>>managed to turn it over, muscle it out of the ditch, and get it onto its
>>kickstand.  There's >no way< I could have done this in a normal situation.
>>Even more bizarre, I barely remember moving the bike.  All of sudden, it
>>was just up by the side of the road.
>
>After dumping my 503lb dry 900 Ninja, and badly spraining my right
>wrist in the process, I had the bike back up in seconds.  Talk about
>adrenalin!  For days afterward, I could hardly move my wrist much less
>muscle a near liter bike up from the ground with it.

Years ago, my then-girlfriend bumped my Yamaha XS750 (530 lbs dry)
while I was standing on the right side.  I reached over and caught
it right before it hit the ground, and cracked my left wrist.  I
couldn't get a cast put on it, because I had a job climbing
trees at the time, and I didn't want to miss out on the 25% bonus
I got for doing it.  So I just used the one good hand
for a couple weeks until the other wrist healed enough that I could
put pressure on it.  I felt/heard the wrist go "pop" when I caught
the bike, but it didn't hurt until later...




--
  Eric Murray                                             ericm@microunity.com
      "Archiving the net is like washing toilet paper!"- Leader Kibo
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles"
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:24:55 GMT
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853

In article <726107313snz@morgan.demon.co.uk> tony@morgan.demon.co.uk writes:
>
>Sheesh you poor guys. In this country (where we obviously don't have as many 
>lawyers as you do), anybody trying to claim damages for injuries suffered 
>while in pursuit of a tresspass would be laughed out of court, unless they 
>could show that you maliciously set a trap designed to injure them. What kind 
>of legal system rewards the malefactor against the innocent party?

I'm beginning to suspect that the whole idea that the American courts
are designed to take money from the innocent to pay for the stupidity
of the guilty is just another media-generated myth, and Dear Abby has
bouught into it.  I'm sure that on occasion there are some illogical
settlements--after all even the lawyers can screw up occasionally--but
the examples that I've heard turn out to have a "rest of the story"
that makes them seem a lot more reasonable, for example due to gross
stupidity by the defendant.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: Help with an electrical problem, please
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:46:43 GMT

In article <76222@apple.apple.COM> thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson) writes:
>an4929@anon.penet.fi (gonzo) writes:
>
>>I would recharge it, and it would work fine for a while, and then run
>>down again.  My manual says that this is probably a bad alternator.
>>But, at the same time, my lamp has blown about four times in the same
>>number of months, which my manual says is the rectifier/regulator.
>
>If you are blowing out headlamps it sounds like you have an overvoltage
>problem.  A defective regulator or a problem with the associated wiring
>is the probable cause of this.  Get your hands on a voltmeter
>($15 or so at Radio Shack, or your friend at the motorcycle shop will
>have one).  Measure the voltage of your battery with the bike running
>and reved up a ways.  If it's 15 volts or more you have a regulation
>problem.

Another possibility is the dumb bike is just wired up wrong.  I had an
electrical problem on my old CL350 that turned out to be a white wire
connected to a white-with-yellow-stripe wire (virtually
indistiguishable until I wiped the grime off them), with the free ends
that those wires were *supposed* to go to improperly connected
together as well.  But in my case I was blowing tail lamps, not head
lamps.

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Gang FAQ'd by the DoD!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:26:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.182812.7686@dale.ksc.nasa.gov> tgent@dale.ksc.nasa.gov (Tom Gent) writes:
>
>Hi, everyone.  I'm new to this group, and was thinking of buying a bike.
>What I was wondering, though, is whether you guys recommend that I get
>a helmet?  I've heard that they mess up your hair and obstruct your
>vision, but may be good to have in a crash.  I don't think I will crash 
>though, my neighbor is a pretty good teacher.  Also, are there any laws
>concerning helmets that I should be aware of?

 
Flame bait or what.
 
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Dealing with the Insurance Scum
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:32:22 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.165530.24774@adobe.com> cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson) writes:
}Thank you for finally providing *facts*. Your first posting could be
}accurately condensed down to the following:
}
}"If someone hits you, sue them. I did it twice, and look at all the
} money I made. You can make a lot of money this way, too!"

Tony Wang wrote me a much-too-nice letter noting that he was the
poster of the original posting that we all loved so much, not Mark.
I'd apologize profusely to Mark for impuning his good name, but then
I'd lose my DoD number. Suffice it to say that I owe Mark a beer or
three if he makes it out to the left coast.

Also, the following comment was un-called for, since the original poster,
Tony Wang, *is* a .edu breath.

}ObStereotyping: Given Mark's misleading original post, maybe we should
}lump public access Unix users in with .edu breaths.

Tony also noted in his [again, much too reasonable] letter that the
details of his accident had been posted previously, and he didn't think
we wanted to hear about it again. He's probably right in that; I don't
exactly have a morbid fascination with hearing about pain, and BDI
cagers just make my blood pressure go up to dangerous levels.

As to why we jump to the worst possible conclusions on this newsgroup,
as many of us did when we read Tony's "sue the bastards" posting, it's
Just the Way We Are here in DoD.motorcycles.
-- 
Curtis Jackson			'91 Black Lab/Blue Heeler "Studley Doright"
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com	'92 Collie/Golden "George"
DoD #721			'91 Hawk GT	'81 Maxim 650
"I'd rather die while I'm living than live while I'm dead." -- J. Buffett
From: doc@webrider.central.sun.com (Steve Bunis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re:  AL weather
Date: 6 Jan 1993 16:28:29 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: doc@webrider.central.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: webrider.central.sun.com

In article 11699@bnr.ca, mbeaving@bnr.ca (Michael Beavington) writes:
> In article <1993Jan5.153433.25798@b30.ingr.com>, mueller@b30news.b30.ingr.com ( Phil Mueller ) writes:
> |> 
> |> To all you Yankee and European DoDers:
> |> 
> |> I rode to work today!!
> |> ha ha ha ha ha ha!!
> |> 
> 
> Ooooo! Nanook, he taunts us! We must unleash the most terrible
> Canadian curse:
> 
>    May a rabid polar bear tear you apart limb from limb and
>    then use your phone to ring up a $20,000 charge by dialling
>    1-976-bear-sex.
> 
> Boy are you in for it now!
> 

Good idea but wrong order!  Make him pay for the charges first, then let
the polar bear have him!!!

> 
> =============================================================================
> = The Beav |Mike Beavington|BellNorthernResearch Ottawa,Ont,Canada| Dod:9733=
> = Seca 400->Seca 400->RZ350->Seca750->Suzuki550->Seca650turbo->V65Sabre     =
> = (-> 1994 GTS1000 ...can't afford the '93) |  mbeaving@bnr.ca              =
> = Parking spaces? We don't need no steenkin' parking spaces!                =
> =============================================================================



---
Steve Bunis,  Sun Microsystems     ***DoD #0795***
              Itasca, IL
From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Real life facts about insurance companies
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:18:46 -0500
Reply-To: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Organization: CMU Alumni External Account

In article <1iqnjlINNlrt@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com>, mrk@gvgspd.gvg.tek.com (Michael R. Kesti) writes:
> In article <C0J0A1.L9B@news.iastate.edu> tomes@iastate.edu writes:
> 
>>News flash: Insurance companies exist to take your money.
> 
>>              They will screw you over: that is their sole purpose in life.
> 
> Statements such as these, and threads whose subject lines include phrases
> such as "insurance scum", annoy me.  I think its time for all of us to
> realize that, like every other business in a capitalistic society, the
> mission of the insurance company is to maiximize its profit while providing
> goods or services to its customers.

	Certainly, but somehow I don't think that was meant by the original
statement.  In a "market" economy, self-interest governs the actions of
the parties to a transaction or exchange.  You get what you can get away
with.

> The reason it feels different when dealing with insurance companies is, in
> my opinion, that you have to partake of their service at a time that is
> emotionally stressful.  When you bought your bike, you were part of the
> manufacturer's scheme to maximize its profits, but, because it is a joyous
> time, you don't resent it.  About that same time, you probably bought

	I don't know about that.  Haggling can be stressful, too.  But
hopefully you come away with the knowledge that you got what you could
get away with.

> insurance for that bike (either because you are intelligent enough to
> realize that you need it, or because your locale's laws require it), but
> that doesn't feel as good as buying the bike, because it seems like you are
> spending still more money, at a time when you may not feel you have much to
> spare, for apparantly nothing in return.  Later, when your bike is damaged,
> or you've damaged someone else's person or property, and you need to file a
> claim, you feel especially bad about the situation, and resent having to be
> at the receiving end of their attempt to maximize profits.

	Like claims adjusters ?  I don't know anyone who hasn't felt like
they were trying to screw them for all they could get.  Again, I agree with
you.

> They are not out to hurt you, cheat you, nor rip you off.  They are carefully
> doing business in a way that protects their own interest and to satisfy their
> investors.  If you were one of those investors, you would want it no other
> way.  As one of their customers, is it so difficult to understand?

	Not at all.  But it's an adversarial system, I feel.  As the bike
owner, you almost *have* to have a "screw or get screwed" mentality, IMHO.

Rob
--
   Rob Yang (Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A) RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU
                          Systems Engineer
                 AMA 642916   DoD 0593   FSSNOC 1721
'92 CBR600F2 (Hon)   '79 XT500 (The Bitch)   '87 KDX200 (Moose)
From: mtaffe@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Michael Taffe)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Speaking of reality and insurance...
Date: 13 Jan 93 00:38:13 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego


I just noticed a beer ad on TV the other night (brand escapes me).  The basic
theme is people in boring/geeky professions who have cool (tm) hobbies or
weekend lives...whatever.  Anyway, the best part is the implausible linking
of and insurance agent to moto racing!

Although, on reflection, I suppose that working for an insurance co. gets one
good rates and guaranteed protection from policy refusal.


Mike Taffe		*   VF500F
			*   
DoD# 753		*   "...rant, rave... stupid .edu postings!"
				--they're just mad 'cause we post for free.