HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Chuck.Grimsby@p1.f47.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Chuck Grimsby)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: GFA dropping support for ST?  NOT!
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:20:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: tdkt.703527792.F00003


In a message of <Apr 14 16:25>, John Hutchinson (1:282/31) writes:
 >From: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov (John Hutchinson)
 >Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
 >Reply-To: hutch@bellman.lanl.gov

 >There has been a few rumors flying around that GFA was dropping support 
 >for the Atari.  I just spoke with John Barger of GFA Software 
 >Technologies in Salem, Mass, and he assures me that nothing could be 
 >further from the truth.  They are, in fact, about to release GFA BASIC 
 >version 3.7 for Beta testing so that should be available RSN ("real soon 
 >now").

 >Just thought you GFA users might like to know the _real_ story.

Thanks John.  I assumed this would be the case.  Thanks for taking the time to 
make the call.
  

 * Origin: FlightLine PointNet  (1:282/47.1)
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Overview of MultiTOS Reprint
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:38:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

In article <92103.193524EENG6801@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>, EENG6801@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca (Carlos Varela) writes:
> 
> - I think it's a good idea to release it on disk since I'm happy with
>   my TOS 1.0 that runs all software. I don't want to get a new TOS
>   that doesn't run half the software on the market.

     I'm sorry to hear that. I guess you don't have a hard drive then?
One of the best things I ever did for my ST was upgrade to TOS 1.4
(1.04) I was tired of not being able to run programs like Gemini.

Later.......

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From: woocm@essex.ac.uk (Wood C M)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Panarthea/Twitterpatter available via FTP?
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:10:06 GMT
Reply-To: woocm@essex.ac.uk (Wood C M)
Organization: University of Essex, Colchester, UK

Netters,
	Can the panarthea site<?>, i.e. that which is accessed via the
mail-server archive-server@twitterpater.eng.sun.com, be reached by
anonymous ftp? If so does anyone know the address? Thanks.

	C.W.

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From: Anthony V. Paul
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Fixed Golden Image scanner problem
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:23:16 GMT
Reply-To: ttpui@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research

Thanks to all who replied.

Jean-Philippe.Guerard@irisa.fr

gave me the solution, thanks jean-Phillippe!

I am using a mega STe (16MHz, cache) it seems Touch Up doesn't like
fast ST's.  Once I changed the speed to 8 MHz everything was fine, 
actually, I believe it also works at 16 Mhz as long as the cache is
disabled.

thanks
avp

Anthony Paul
ttpui@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Terminal server idler?
From: Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 11:05:38 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Apr9.132712.28758@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu writes:
> In article <JARTSU.92Apr6032009@saha.hut.fi>, Jari.Lehto@hut.fi writes:
> >
> >Hello!
> >
> >I am looking for a program, preferably an accessory, that keeps my
> >terminal line up when idling. 

> There once was such a utility, busy.acc.  It only seemed to work on 
> TOS 1.0 machines, though (so I got rid of it).  The logical place to 
> put this would be as a feature of the terminal program itself.
>              Mickey R. Boyd          |  "Come to your senses professor  
>           FSU Computer Science       |     Fernberg.  You did not transcend 
>         Technical Support Group      |     the time-space continuum.  You  
>        email:  boyd@nu.cs.fsu.edu    |     got drunk in a topless bar."

I do have busybud.acc and it works with my Tos 1.4, I am having
problem with posting it to any site because of the Kermit problems
that I have with the Vax site that I have to use for FTP, I will
change the file to ARC and that could get passed this C-Kermit Vax
bug..
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Calamus SL Available ! (?)
From: ursulus@status.gen.nz (malcolm fletcher)
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 20:04:07 GMT
Organization: Z*NET International News Gateway in Auckland New Zealand

cosc226@otago.ac.nz (Neil Gardner - Otago, NZ) writes:

> Hi there guys, I want to get hold of Calamus SL demo. Unfortunately I
> am working from a Computer Science account of mine that has a pretty finite
> 

The same goes DOUBLE for me, I would KILL for a PEEK at CALAMUS SL, can 
anybody say anything about it, I want my appetite wetted

Ursulus, aka Malcolm Fletcher
From: baffoni@aludra.usc.edu (Juxtaposer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Atari Unix ...
Date: 15 Apr 1992 14:49:20 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <45yjq8#.mats@netcom.com> mats@netcom.com (Mats Wichmann) writes:
<stuff deleted>

>The TT has only a single 3U VME slot, allowing for one half-high card.
>There's a workable ethernet card (Reibl) which has a supported driver,
>which allows running TCP, NFS, etc - I'm doing so now.  It will support
>a 3rd-party video card in the future - I doubt whether I'm at liberty
>to say which one.  However, with only one slot, you have to make a
>choice between ethernet and video adaptor.  ACSI devices aren't

	Hasn't anyone made a bus-expander?  I remember hearing (many moons
ago) that it shouldn't be too hard to design/build an extended bus (ie. 
extra connectors/slots) but that because of the way the VME was implemented
it would not support bus-master cards.  I should think that this would be a 
rather popular (=customer demand) item considering it could be used in TTs and
MegaSTes, not to mention any new machines that Atari comes out with (it 
doesn't look like VME will be phased out any time soon).  Who wants to get
stuck with the stock video?  Who wants to have to decide between 1024x768x24bit
color and an ethernet connection - a truly miserable choice (but I wish I had 
that choice :).  
  
>appropriate for UNIX because of the way the ACSI bus hogs the processor
>(Atari is, I believe, fighting off having to support the ACSI laser
>printer for this reason) but it you know of a good SCSI Ethernet, I'd
>be intereted in hearing details.  At one time there was support for
>such a device, but the mfg. discontinued it.  I know there was a
>company doing such a device for Macs (in Utah?), but I never did get
>any more info on them.

	The company, Asante, builds Mac SCSI-ethernet cards. I am sure there
are other companies, but this is only one I know of (and have the address of).
Their address & phone number is:
	Asante' Technologies, 404 Tasman Dr., Sunnyvale, CA 94089
1-800-662-9686
>-- 
>Mats Wichmann
>Systems Software Consultant
>alruna!mats@ossi.com (or mats@netcom.com)
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: petav@Physik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Peter Averkamp)
Subject: Re: GEMulator (was Re: Sudden View vs. Intel)
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 22:30:03 GMT

Ok, seems like you've dunnit, Darek!
I see thousands of reasons why people could want GEMulator, e.g. to
have a useable Atari compatible notebook, not the ugly
crook from the company, but one with a nice display, floppy, etc.
or simply because of irrational licence cost for some DOS-packages.
I have some questions to Darek: 
  - have you tried transparent file access from GEMulator
    through some PC-network?(some kind of NFS preferred)
  - How is your schedule for the releases, esp. in Europe?
  - What's about any plans for a unix X-Workstation version.
    From what i know of the 68k-emulators, there we would 
    have ample speed to even emulate a TT easily with REAL ram.
  - Might there be some way to run the thing w/o any external
    hardware ? (problem for a portable machine) 

- Peter -

P.S.: I think flaming and fuzzing around on this subject
is of little help. Let's all hope GEMulator becomes a big
success, so the user base grows and gets more impact. I 
personnally feel, that Atari always had too little competition.
Maybe they need even more kicks in the ass.
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From: ladasky@netcom.com (John J. Ladasky II)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Can't reach atari archives? - What happened?
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:46:09 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Hi there...

	I'm having a frustrating relationship with ftp.  The machine known
as atari.archives.umich.edu is listed as an 'unknown host,' but I can 
connect to umich.edu itself just fine (of course, that does me a whole lot
of good).  Is there a name server that's down someplace?

							... John

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: mega ste price
From: Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 07:51:30 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Apr16.004147.3795@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aq115@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert C Glover) writes:
> 
> I guess you're just not paying attention.
>  
> Flash II is OUT.  People HAVE it.  The Supra modems are OUT.
> People HAVE them too.  Like I said, I read the ST Roundtable
> every night on GEnie, and people actually have these things.
>  
> The press release posted earlier is old.  Flash II was released
> at the TAF show, and upgrades have already been shipped.  People
> are using it, and loving it.
>  
> I know of several people that I've met on GEnie and they haev
> the new Supra modems, and they love them!
>  
> The stuff exists, the stuff is supported.
> -- 
> | Robert Glover                               GEnie:  R.GLOVER3 |
> | Internet:           rg@turing.acs.virginia.edu                |
> | Cleveland Freenet:  aq115@cleveland.freenet.edu               |
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Try telling that to the People here, Sorry but I don't believe it,
I also know people that have left E-Mail to Supra on GEnie and never
got a reply and are also still waiting for there modems...
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From: J.M.C.Geada@newcastle.ac.uk (Joao Moreno Colaco Geada)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Word Processors
Date: 15 Apr 92 10:45:41 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE17RU


Well, you could try Calligrapher Professional, from Working Title.

I've just recently bought it (1 week ago), and so far
it has behaved quite well, produces good quality printout and has
the ability to print postscript to disk.

Features include:
outliner,
large dictionary,
thesaurus,
import graphics (both bitmapped and vector),
table generation,
mathematical formulae,
its own vector fonts for printing (very good quality output on by BJ10e)
style tags (define the ruler/font size/font properties/formatting rules
etc for later use. Changes to tags can be applied to a single
instance or to all similarly tagged instances in the document)
ability to handle multiple columns,
multiple file documents
etc.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Terminal server idler?
From: shore@equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 00:06:15   M
Organization: The Equinox Network CHCH NZ (Node 3)

Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:

[lots deleted on Freeze Dried Terminal]

> From the Chaps that use it here in NZ, its very Buggy, has good ANSI
> emulation though..

Yeah, it has a few bugs, but it's so feature packed & easy to use that
 I can live with them.
Nope, I'm not happy with the ANSI emulation... it's as shitty as the rest
 of the programs around for the ST except UNITERM (but uniterm doesn't 
have the graphics).
 Good ANSI emulation in my books, includes *FULL* ANSI emulation, 
including windowing support, and your end redrawing the current
 line being edited. It speeds things up a hell of a lot.
(The windowing i'm talking about is the way a bbs can define a scroll
 wondow on your screen instead of redrawing that part of the screen it
 tells your computer to scroll it, then it sends the last line.)

 Craig.

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From: strgh@warwick.ac.uk (J E H Shaw)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: C for the ST
Date: 17 Apr 92 11:53:11 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, Warwick University, UK

In article <A1411389582@thelake.mn.org> steve@thelake.mn.org (Steve Yelvington) writes:
>
>Lattice C 5.0, Turbo/Pure C and Prospero C attempt to conform to the
>ANSI standard. I think there may be some odd cases in which they
>might trip over a detail, but on the whole they're reliable for
>processing ANSI C code.
>
I've now received HiSoft blurb about Lattice C 5.5, in which they say
...
"The ANSI compliance of the compiler is strict and complete as far as
 we know including support for Trigraphs, Float as a native type and
 flexible keyword ordering."
...

Presumably the features mentioned are those that were missing/unreliable
in version 5.0 (e.g., as I remember, "int __regargs foo( bar ) {...}"
was fine, but "__regargs int foo( bar ) {...}" didn't work before).
For those interested, upgrade costs from v5.0 are --
        case UK: <pounds>39.95; break;
        case !Europe: <pounds>40; break;  /* note the extra 5p! */
        default: <pound>45;

According to the blurb, v5.5 includes amongst other things a `Project
Manager' (i.e., an integrated `make'), and >280 pages of new documentation.
A `Toolpac' with CLI make etc. "will be available soon", and HiSoft will
also "proceed swiftly" with the much-delayed Source Code Debugger.

Good to hear about Pure C's forthcoming release outside Germany,
it sounds to be a great system.

I have no connection with HiSoft or any other company; hope the above
information isn't read by anyone as an advert.

                -- Ewart Shaw
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Organization: Wirtschaftsuniversitaet Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Tuesday, 7 Apr 1992 16:25:56 WUT
From: <NN1@awiwuw11.wu-wien.ac.at>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Some experiences with STBOOK ??

Hello!
Is there anyone who could give me information about the Atari STBOOK?
I consider to use it mainly for telecommunication.
Do you have articles or reports and infos about the price in Europe and USA?
Please post your mail either to the list or to the follow adress:
k111118@alijku11.edvz.uni-linz.ac.at
thanks   Walter Birklbauer
From: moon!cyberden!system@well.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: GEMULATOR (WAS RE: SUDDEN VIEW VS.
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 02:14:16 PDT
Organization: Indescribable Creations

nelson@kodak.kodak.com (Bruce Nelson) writes:
> Derek said it will sell for somewhere in the $300-$500 range and will 
> be announcing general availability within the next several months.

???$300 - $500???

This is gonna die fast and hard...

$300 get's you a 1040 ST w/mono monitor these days.. and that has a
built in MIDI interface... $400 will get you a 2 MB 1040 STE...

This GEMulator is sounding really lame... sorry to flame it, but it 
sounds like ingenious shareware to me...

Maybe for development... but even then! No true MIDI ports, No True
sound ports, useless....

<X>orcist

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From: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au (Warwick Allison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: GIF
Keywords: File format.
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:28:29 GMT
Reply-To: warwick@cs.uq.oz.au

In <1983@pegase.enst.fr> elendir@pegase.enst.fr (Vincent Habchi) writes:

>I tried some GIF viewer (Viewgif 1.2, zum beispiel) but it cannot handle the TT
>low rez and med rez, and that's a pity.

Try GEMView (it's like XView under Xwindows) - it handles GIFs VERY well,
in all resolutions, even large ones (you scroll it in a window.
It's at atari.archive.umich.edu

>SO I plan to write a gif-viewer which can do it, and I will add a JPEG encoder/
>decoder.

Good idea, except you can convert JPEG to GIF without losing significant
quality since 256 colours is all you get on a TT anyway (just for viewing
- keep the originals in JPEG for compression and passing on).


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: mega ste price
From: Roger.Sheppard@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:36:32 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <1992Apr14.163441.7078@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> aq115@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Robert C Glover) writes:
> 
> Roger,
>  
> If you think Atari has no good software, their machines are too
> slow, etc, then go get a PC, and leave us alone.  We like our
> machines.  Atari users are a very close bunch of people.  For
> the most part, our machines are some of the most powerful systems
> available to the average person.  They're also the easiest to
> use.
>  
> We may not have a gazillion programs out there, but we do have some
> very good software to choose from.
>  
> Terminal Programs:	STalker 3.01, Flash II
>  
> Word Processors:	Signum III, Wordflair II, Word Perfect
>  
> Spreadsheets:		VIP Professional
>  
> Databases:		LDW Power
>  
> Utilities:		NeoDesk 3.0, Hard Disk Turbo Kit, ICD Utilities, etc.
>  
> -- 
> | Robert Glover                               GEnie:  R.GLOVER3 |
> | Internet:           rg@turing.acs.virginia.edu                |
> | Cleveland Freenet:  aq115@cleveland.freenet.edu               |
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

What a load of Crap, most of that software you list is no longer supported,
and Flash II is not even out yet, Signum III is in German the ICD utils
only work with ICD hosts, is this the best you can do...???
Tell me were do I get support for this software, I also have LDW 1.1 and would
like to get Version 2.0...

Dream on...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: dmb@wam.umd.edu (David M. Baggett)
Subject: Re: Good software (Was: mega ste price
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:45:49 GMT

In article <12548@umd5.umd.edu> adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) writes:
>"the above would probably cost $9K"...
>
>A new 486/50 EISA clone can be had with all the frills for around $4500.

You're not counting software like the Unix derivative Patrick mentioned.

Dave Baggett
dmb@wam.umd.edu
From: as666@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jonathan Roy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Computer Dungeon
Date: 9 Apr 92 04:31:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1992Apr9.043113.19521
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)


The owner's wife was diagnosed as terminally ill, so he gave up the business
to spend time with her. THe Dungeon may reopen one day, but it's gone
for now.

-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: bpat@cs.mcgill.ca (Patrick BETREMIEUX)
Subject: Re: File number limit ?
Organization: SOCS, McGill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 13:05:13 GMT

No, it cannot be that the FAT if full !!! If it were, than it would mean
there is no more space left on the disk anyways. It's just that there is a
file limit per directory. The value is 70 (hex) if I'm not mistaken.
This value can be changed (Byte 17 or 18 of the boot sector), but I'm not
sure TOS will take those changes with a smile (It might try to allow more
files, but doesn't have the memory allocated for it, so BOMBS away :-), and
even then, GEM will not accept it in its File Selector ...)

					Patrick BETREMIEUX