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From: daniell@cory.Berkeley.EDU (Daniel Lyddy)
Subject: Skriko reaches a milestone
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:21:55 GMT



Shark newcomer Petri Skriko notched his 400th career NHL point tonight against
the Winnipeg Jets.  His 400th point -- an assist on a goal by Kelly Kisio --
couldn't have been timed better.  That goal gave the Sharks a 4-3 overtime win
in front of a sellout crowd at the Cow Palace.  Skriko's 399th point was a
goal scored earlier in the game.

Skriko, who spent many years with the Canucks, but who has most recently 
played for the Jets, Bruins, and the Finnish National team, said he "felt like
a kid again" playing in front of the enthusiastic San Jose crowd.  He also
stated that he expected this season to be fun.

Dan Lyddy
A Bruins fan on the wrong coast
From: cstila@uta.fi (Timo Laitinen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Teemu Selanne
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:02:32 GMT
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

I am very pleased of Teemu's games in the NHL.
He was a superstar in 'SM-LIIGA' but I couldn't expect that his is
one of the best in the NHL. I mean as a rookie he has managed more than well.
I think he will be  the next European super-star in the NHL. 
I hope my best luck to Teemu, because he is a wonderful guy as a player and
as a person himself. 

And I I want you to know that I am fan of Ilves(Tampere) not Jokerit(Helsinki).
From: jgcombs@uceng.UC.EDU (Joseph Combs)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: IHL LUmberjacks news NEEDED!  PLEASE!! PLEASE!!!
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:34:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: uceng.1992Oct16.143401.29417
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Organization: University of Cincinnati, Engineering College

In article <1992Oct15.145655.20377@cbnews.cb.att.com> chill@cbnews.cb.att.com (daniel.a.miller) writes:

>winless! You know the team, the Cyclones beat them almost every time they
>played last year! The Columbus Chill!! Granted, the Columbus Fairgrounds
>Coliseum is not the size of The Cincinnati Gardens.... But if it was, you
>can bet the Chill would STILL sellout, WIN or Lose!!!
>

You've got me on that one.  But an interesting side-note to that is that there
is talk down here of expanding the Gardens.  The proposed expansion would 
double the current capacity of 10,360.  The only thing is Gardens management is 
doing this in an attempt to lure an NBA franchise here (a highly unlikely 
prospect, despite Cincy's love for sports).

- Joe
- jgcombs@uceng.uc.edu

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	1992-1993 Cincinnati Cyclones Inaugural IHL Season
From: tz@ll.mit.edu (Taras Zommers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Imponderables/ULF!
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:43:08 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <4er8fJm00UhW862VA=@andrew.cmu.edu> Anna Matyas <am2x+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>I was browsing in the CMU bookstore yesterday and came across a book
>of imponderables.  One of the questions on the cover was "Do penguins
>have knees?"
>
>I thought for a moment and then said, "Ulf Samuelsson certainly does."
>

Considering the new news on Neely's injury I hope more hockey players
realize that Ulf still does have perfectly healthy knees.  Someone needs
to put him in the hospital for a few years.
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From: andrew@idacom.hp.com (Andrew Scott)
Subject: USENET Hockey Draft - all entries in
Reply-To: andrew@idacom.hp.com (Andrew Scott)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, IDACOM Telecommunications Division
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 21:48:10 GMT

The entries for the USENET Hockey Draft have stopped arriving.  Whew!  This
year there are 260 teams (a new record), from literally all over the world.
As far as I can tell from looking at the email addresses, there are teams
from every Canadian province, just over half of the 50 U.S. states, and the
following other countries:

Finland
Sweden
U.K.
Germany
Netherlands
Russia (!)
Australia (!)
New Zealand (!)
Hong Kong (!)

I have to think that this may be the largest hockey pool in the world,
geographically speaking, with a span of 287 degrees of longitude and 103
degrees of latitude.  When I started this six years ago, I had no idea that
it would get so big.

Of the 260 entries, the following players were the 15 most chosen:

242	Eric_Lindros
169	Pavel_Bure
143	Jaromir_Jagr
131	Joe_Juneau
109	Mike_Ricci
101	Joe_Nieuwendyk
100	Teemu_Selanne
98	Pat_Falloon
89	Valery_Kamensky
69	Theoren_Fleury
67	John_MacLean
58	Esa_Tikkanen
55	Rick_Tocchet
47	Ron_Francis
46	Jari_Kurri

As I've done in the past, I have entered an extra team with these players,
named rec.sport.hockey_choices.

There were 235 different players chosen, despite my attempts to discourage
picking "fringe" players.  :-)  This may present a problem in the coming
weeks, as my current software will only allow a maximum of 255 players to
be in the database.  If more than 20 new players need to get added because
they are picked up during the season, I will have to cut it off.

The NHL statistics should be available on Tuesday, October 13.  Sunday will
mark the end of week 1 so I will post the week 1 standings on the 13th.

Thanks again to all who entered, and good luck this year!
-- 
Andrew Scott			| andrew@idacom.hp.com
HP IDACOM Telecom Division	| (403) 462-0666 ext. 253

Live now!  Always make now the most precious time!  Now will never come again.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: kjmcrae@cayley.uwaterloo.ca (insert name here)
Subject: Injured players....
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:33:09 GMT

Anybody know the current status of:

Neely?
Khristich?
Fedorov?  (someone told me he wasn't quite up to par, is that true?)
MacLean?  (is he capable of a big comeback this season??)
Eklund?  (how long is he out for??)
J.Mullen? 

Also, what teams do Brian Mullen & Dan Quinn play for?  Last I remember, Mullen
was released (?) and Quinn was a free agent.

Posts are good -- e-mail's better...
thanx,
...km
"I'm a man who respects a good coma." - J.Seinfeld
From: Thomas.Sullivan@cs.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Pens Uniforms
Date: 8 Oct 92 14:46:34 GMT
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Distribution: usa
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

> Excerpts from netnews.rec.sport.hockey: 8-Oct-92 Re: Pens Uniforms
> daniel.a.miller@cbnews.c (732)


> 	I think that this is just a ploy by a team with an enormous 
> payroll to encourage fans to purchase more merchandise. If you have an
> old jersey... to be back in style you MUST by the new one right???

> - Dan

Of course.  It happens all the time.  Just go into a clothing store every
year, see the same clothes?  Nope.  Are all of the clothes in your
closest
useless to wear because of their condition?  Nope.  But people gotta have
the latest things.  Sports teams are no different.  Major league baseball
teams change uniforms every couple years, the Pirates have had at least
5 different uniforms over the past 10 or so years.  This is the first
major
Pens uniform change in years.  You can each expect your own teams to
get around to it eventually too.   I personally like the old uniforms
better,
but hey, I want to watch hockey, not a fashion show, so I'll get used to 
them in whatever they want the team to wear!

--Tom
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From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: Manon Rheaume on Tonight's Show?
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: Columbia University
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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:13:43 GMT

Sorry for the double post, but there's one more thing I wanted to say
before I fat-fingered my way out of my first post :-).  It's true that
Ms. Rheaume is reasonably attractive; she's certainly better looking
than anyone I've ever seen playing in the NHL (note for pedants: NOT
"...anyone ELSE I've ever seen playing...", since I've never seen her
play).  That mask she talked about must have done a really good job on
that melon stop :-).  But remember, everybody, about glass houses and
rocks...if you happen to find this woman attractive, don't flame the
next time some woman on the newsgroup happens to say something similar
about another (presumably male) hockey player!
	-Steve
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson)
Subject: Re: Borschevsky (wasRe: NHL STATS FOR OCTOBER 7th)
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 11:54:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.011439.2787@mtroyal.ab.ca> caldwell8102@mtroyal.ab.ca writes:
>
>To be eligible for the Calder Trophy, a player "cannot have played more than 25
>games in any single preceeding season, nor in six or games in each of any two
>preceeding seasons in any major professional league. To be eligible for this
>award, a player must not have attained his 26th birthday by September 15th of
>the season in which he is eligible."
>
>I wonder, do they count the Finnish and Swedish leagues as "major professioanl
>leagues"? 

No. The Finnish and Swedish leagues are technically seen as amateur leagues.
Whether they really are amateur could be discussed, 'Half-pro' would be 
closer to the truth IMO..

>If they do, then a guy like Selanne would not be eligible. They never
>counted the Russian league as one, though. Witness Sergei Makarov and Pavel
>Bure...
>
>								Alan
>

Staffan
--
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From: kdc@ccu.umanitoba.ca ()
Subject: "BIG WEASEL" maybe ??
Originator: kdc@asimov.cc.umanitoba.ca
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 17:58:13 GMT


 This from this morning's Winnipeg Sun (without permission):
 "Notes and Quotes"
  The outspoken Don Cherry caused a bit of a stir last spring when he
called Canuck's rookie, Pavel Bure "a little weasel" for coming up behind
and kicking out the skates of JETS winger Keith Tkachuk.
  Wonder what Cherry would have to say about Edmonton OILER's Bernie Nicholls,
who pulled the same stunt on Russian rookie Alexei Zhamnov in Wednesday's game
at the Winnipeg Arena.
  Zhamnov escaped uninjured after taking a heavy fall to the ice. 
  "I didn't expect that from (Nicholls), " Zhamnov said yesterday.
"it was a surprise... Its a dirty play which could cause an injury.  We're
 all players and we should respect each other."
 
 -----------------------
 Ken D.   U of Manitoba
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: SHARKS NEWS: Byers signed to IHL tryout
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 03:12:33 GMT

The Sharks signed former Boston Bruin winger Lyndon Byers to a tryout contract
with the Kansas City Blades of the IHL, the Sharks' top minor league affiliate.
Byers, who piled up 959 PIM in 261 games in 9 seasons with Boston, will seek
to do well in the two-week tryout at Kansas City.

Byers, 28, is sought because the Sharks want someone to replace Link Gaetz,
who is sidelined with impaired motor skills due to an automobile accident.
Byers, however, has the reputation for not keeping himself in good shape.
"He hasn't always taken good care of himself," said Sharks director of hockey
operations Dean Lombardi.  "But we have nothing to lose by taking a look at
him."

(Dean, if you want my opinion, I don't want Byers to have anything to do with
the team.)

===============================================================================
"M. C. Hamrlik: Can't Touch This Lightning."
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Wayne Gretzky for Ross and Hart!
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Sandis Ozolinsh for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Kings in The Hockey News 10/16
Keywords: Kings bashing 
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 18:17:35 GMT

In article <2ADDACF8.24079@news.service.uci.edu> assist@orion.oac.uci.edu (ASSIST Coordination Site) writes:
>
>And excuse me, but Edmonton seems to be the team which is sinking to
>the bottom faster than the Titanic so why does The Hockey News and
>some of the sportscasters I have heard recently think that they
>will do so well this year?  They are a team that has made an
>abundance of trades (the very action which caused the Kings
>alot of problems last year).  Is it because they have previously  
>won a Stanley Cup?  That always determines my faith in a team --
>perhaps I should expect every team who has EVER won a Stanley Cup
>to finish in the top of their conference this year (but that sort
>of logic isn't very logical is it :-)
>

Perhaps it is because the Oilers have been playing hockey games in
May every year except one for over a decade, and the management team
responsible for that is still in place...whereas the Kings have still
yet to make it out of their division, and they are missing their best 
player, and have a new GM, and another new coach, and a bunch of
youngsters on the blueline.  Respect is earned....

>It would just be nice if people would realize that there is still
>a great Los Angeles Kings TEAM even without the Great ONE.
>

If they are a great team, then the future will unfold as it should,
as it did for Pittsburgh, and Edmonton before them, and the Islanders...

The horse does go before the cart!

Gerald
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From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: Manon Rheaume on Tonight's Show?
Followup-To: rec.sport.hockey
Organization: Columbia University
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> If this is what the women I like in Canada, I am on my way!
			    ^^^^^^
Freudian slip, David?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: 890491g@dragon.acadiau.ca (Don Graves)
Subject: Re: Borschevsky (wasRe: NHL STATS FOR OCTOBER 7th)
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:25:23 GMT

890491g@dragon.acadiau.ca (Don Graves) writes:


>	Actually, he played for Indianappolis first (for six games or so)
>and was then sold to Edmonton (I think he was sold) since the Pacers were
>folding.
	Or were they the Racers?

>-- 
>Don Graves (don.graves@dragon.acadiau.ca)
>Acadia University,
>Wolfville, N.S. Canada
-- 
Don Graves (don.graves@dragon.acadiau.ca)
Acadia University,
Wolfville, N.S. Canada
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: popovich@cs.columbia.edu (Steve Popovich)
Subject: Re: The correct answer is 7000
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 19:03:13 GMT

I don't remember about Gary Thorne, but I was amused during that first
penalty against the Penguins when they put up that clock in the corner
of the screen showing the time left in the Pittsburgh power play, or
so it said.  Then again, given the way the game started out, maybe it
looked like a power play :-).  That didn't last long, though.

I think the ESPN production people have a bit to re-learn about
hockey, too.  Not only did they have to cut abruptly out of the middle
of a commercial several times in order to show the play a couple of
seconds after the face-off (don't they have a light to notify the
officials of commercials so that this doesn't happen?), but a couple
of times, they did something very irritating while trying to get an
"exciting" angle to show the play from.  That is, they switched from a
view from above the rink, where we could see the play developing, to a
camera showing the player with the puck rushing (almost) directly
toward it, and back to the high view.  Not bad, except that the whole
thing lasted about 1/2 to 1 second.  I don't know about you, but quick
cuts give me a headache.  I can't stand all those recent commercials
that switch rapidly between a succession of different scenes, too.
Maybe I'm just getting old :-).
	-Steve
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: hahietanen@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: Re: SENATORS NEWS:  Final Roster
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 10:48:11 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.170551.26210@bcrka451.bnr.ca>, simpson@bnr.ca (Scott Simpson) writes:
> Well, they *finally* cut the team to 26 players, and to the best of my 
> knowledge, these are the final 26.   The list became complete after Dominic 
> Lavoie, Kent Paynter and Jim Kyte were sent to New Haven on Tuesday.
> 
> (Any player with a number listed plays tonight against Montreal in the opener)
> 
> Name             No Pos Ht.  Wt.  Birthplace           yy/mm/dd  1991-1992 Team
> ====             == === ===  ===  ==========           ========  ===============
  
  (text removed)

> Jelinek, Tomas   25 RW  5-9  189                       62/??/??    HPK (Finland)
  Here some "corrections" for Tomas: 
  - He is born in Budejowice (Czechoslowakia) on the 29th April 1962   

  Hannu Hietanen

> 
> So there.
> 
> Later,
> Me
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From: tiok_jtk@tac.fi
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Who is this man ? ;-)
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:56:22 GMT
Organization: Finnish Ice-Hockey League

In article <1992Oct16.125900.16052@ericsson.se>, etxonss@ufsa.ericsson.se (Staffan Axelsson) writes:
> In article <1992Oct15.161423.11161@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> bks2@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (bryan.k.strouse) writes:
>>
>>Edmonton Oilers  (0-4-1)   1   2   0   -   3
>>Winnipeg Jets    (2-3-0)   3   2   2   -   7
>>	     WIN, Selanne 3 - (Housley, Olausson) (pp) 9:07
>                                         ^^^^^^^^
>>2nd period: WIN, Steen 3 - (Olausson, Bautin) 6:56
>                              ^^^^^^^^
>>	     WIN, Olausson 1 - (Housley, Zhamnov) (pp) 9:27
>                   ^^^^^^^^
>>3rd period: WIN, Tkachuk 2 - (Olausson, Selanne) (pp) 0:24
>                                ^^^^^^^^
>>	     WIN, Selanne 5 - (Olausson, Housley) (pp) 13:48
>                                ^^^^^^^^
> 
>   Who is this man and where is he coming from?? ...nyah, nyah :-) :-)

Hmm...it seems players from strange little countries are the most effective
players in the Jets...
Selanne scored 3+1 and Olausson scored 1+4...Heja nordiska sammararbetet
(= Hooray Co-operation between Northern Countries)...

   Jonne Siren / FIHL


-- 
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NOTICE: The comments above are personal opinions, not official statements!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: andrew@idacom.hp.com (Andrew Scott)
Subject: USENET Hockey Draft: no peeking anymore!
Reply-To: andrew@idacom.hp.com (Andrew Scott)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, IDACOM Telecommunications Division
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 22:21:07 GMT

After receiving some more email on the subject, and after the discussions
I saw posted earlier, I've decided to disallow the practice of "peeking"
at other teams.  

It has been possible to look at other teams by doing a %log all on any
team by using your email address as the %mail return address.  Some people
have consistently used this to look at the top few teams.  I haven't really
cared before, as the pool is just for fun and I'm not concerned if people
use this information to an advantage.

It seems as though some people really do care that their efforts not be
monitored by other people, so I'm going to start ignoring %log messages
that don't look like they're from the team owner.  I have no automatic
way of enforcing this (yet), but since I read all the draft mail, I can
spot whose team is whose.

BTW: If you want to look at *my* team, I don't care.  I've been accused
in the past of making my team from knowledge gained from looking at every
other team.  Actually, I've always considered myself smarter than the
rest of you :-) and haven't done that.  In any case, I figure that my team
ought to be on "public record".

As usual, you can email me any comments, both positive and negative about
this decision.

Have fun anyway.  :-)
-- 
Andrew Scott			| andrew@idacom.hp.com
HP IDACOM Telecom Division	| (403) 462-0666 ext. 253

It's better to burn out than fade away.
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From: kevin@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (kevin mcfadden)
Subject: Re: Right handers playing left handed hockey
Organization: University of Rochester
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 92 12:54:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.184407.1922@athena.mit.edu> dmolsen@athena.mit.edu (D. Matthew Olsen) writes:

>|> 
>
>Wait a minute, I'm a righty out of net, and I play righty in goal, but I have
>found that my goaltending has taught me how to shoot lefty out of net.  Goalies
>traditionally shoot opposite than they would when they skate.  How are you 
>shooting the puck?  Are you turning the stick around in your blocker hand 
>(incorrect technique) or are you sliding your blocker hand up the shaft and
>pushing the center of the stick with your glove hand (proper technique).  That's
>why it's important to have the butt end of your stick taped, so that your blocker
>hand doesn't fly off the stick when you slide it up the shaft to stickhandle.
>
>As far as playing hockey lefty, I read somewhere that the reason that people can
>play opposite handed more easily than in other sports is because the upper hand
>is used for finesse and control, whereas the bottom hand is used just for power,
>therefore, a righty-shooting-lefty is using his good hand for finesse, and a 
>righty-shooting-righty is going for power.
>
>Hope this helps.  If I misunderstood your problem, please correct me.
>
>-- 
>Matthew Olsen (Go Whalers!!!)

	From what I have observed, it seems to be easier to have the glove
at the top because it is like a lever and doesn't need any finesse.  The
blocker at the bottom lets you put your hand at the bottom giving you
control over where the puck is going, like a wrist shot.  I don't
know, maybe I just shoot funny.  I will watch tonight's Islanders and
Flyers game and see what I see.

Latre,