From: danaf@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A4000 case design (was Re: Top 10 reasons why ...)
Date: 12 Nov 92 07:28:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: rpi.xsq14qk
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.

In article <1992Nov11.154623.7830@ra.msstate.edu>, skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
|> In article <+sp1s3l@rpi.edu> danaf@rpi.edu writes:
|> >In article <1992Nov11.015857.2731@ra.msstate.edu>, skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls) writes:
|> >
|> >Yeah, well, Commodore built it for a "market" this time. They have a MARKET.
|> >Oooh, look everyone, Commodore has a "mahhket"!
|> 
|> Do they really have a market?  Somehow it has escaped my notice.  :-)

Well, the market isn't BUYING, but they're targetting real hard.

(Of course, for C= marketing, one magazine ad is "real hard"...)

|> >The A3000 is no fun.   8(
|> 
|> Oh come on now!  I have had lots of fun with my A3000, it is just a more
|> sanitary sort of fun.  My A1000 and I were "blood brothers" of sorts.  I 
|> was removing the huge RF shield and sliced my finger wide open, spewing 
|> blood inside the machine.  Luckily the machine was off and I managed to 
|> mop most of it up, but a bit of it dried on the motherboard.  Gross maybe,
|> but it is the kind of thing that one remembers well.  :-)

Yeah, I guess so. The things I remember most are my A2000's scars. Admittedly,
most of them were inflicted by ME, but that's ok...

(hint: never try to replace an Agnus in a brittle, 4-year-old casing, even IF
you have the "puller". If you screw up, it might cost you about $176.41 to
get repaired. Not that I'd know... 8)  )

(hint 2: not nearly as serious... if, when removing the floppy connector on
your A2000 to get the drive bay out, one of the pins HAPPENS to come with it...
have no fear! Radio Shack sells pins which can easily be soldered into the
now-vacant hole. Getting the pin out of the cable is the real trick...)

<<SHEEPISH GRIN>>
 
|> >(Not Amiga Sentry, tho... I'm positive!  8)   )
|> 
|> You sure seem to miss that magazine alot...  :-)

Well, it was 1 of 4 I really read. I used to read, religiously, the big 4 in
Amiga magazinedom: AW, AC, Sentry, and Info/.info.

Sadly, only 2 are left, and Amazing/Amiga ('scuse me!) is getting weird...

|> >That is kind of... uhm... well... STUPID! Anyone ever hear of the term "open
|> >architecture"????
|> 
|> Somehow I don't believe that the engineers made this policy.  Unfortunately,
|> the policies are often made by marketing dweebs who seem to know very little
|> about computers.

I'm sure that's the story. You'd think the Great NewTek Fiasco (tm) would have
tipped off companies everywhere... engineers of the world, unite!  8)

|> It had better not.  Commodore is screwed in the head if they think that I'm
|> going to send the machine to a dealer to have anything installed.  Hell, 
|> many of the dealers seem to be fools who got their degrees in computer repair
|> from Sally Struther's "Do you wanna make more money?  Sure, we all do!" TV
|> training school.  :-)

Yours have DEGREES!?!?!? Wow.... Mine are just the first guys in the family
to learn to operate a screwdriver....   8)

|> >OOOOh. Yeah? Well, my A2000 case is so warped from coming on and off, it just
|> >pops right down from the top!   Plbbbbt!  8p
|> 
|> Hmph.  We'll just have to wait and see how bad the A4000 case is after I
|> finish with it.  :-)

I dunno, looks pretty indestructible to me...   (not!)

|> How about a PCMCIA (what a stupid acronym) adapter?  If/when all those nifty
|> ROM card based games come out for the A600/A1200, I'm sure that lots of folks
|> will be clamoring for an adapter for other machines.

I remember those... they used ROM cards in some other computer... hmm... what
was it?????....



ADAM!?!?!?       8)


|> >...nil. This is Commodore we're talking here.
|> 
|> Actuall, they are doing quite well lately.  Remember how bleak the future
|> seemed just a few months ago?

Looks only marginally better to me. No offense to you, o brave 4000 pioneer,
but the only thing that could get me to buy a 4000 is if my A2000 motherboard
cracked in half - and even then, I'd look seriously into replacement... 8)


|> Actually, the plate on the A3000 fits much better than those on the A2000.
|> If only they'd have used a standard size ejector button, that design would
|> be okay.

Yeah, not bad. But with 3 or 4 front-facing drive bays, they'd have to make a
lot of different faceplates!  8)

|> >And, of course, room for 20 megs of CHIP RAM..... <hint, hint>
|> 
|> Only 20 megs, come on now, we are talking about a power machine!  We need room
|> for at least 64M Chip RAM on the A5000 so that the 2560x2048 24bit anims will
|> have a bit of room.  With only 20M, you'd only be able to have one of those
|> screens open at one time!

Well, yeah, but it'd be one hell of a screen!   8)

I want my GVP EGS/24!  And I want it for under $2000!  8)))

<no, that's not a triple-chin. I'm just happy to see you... 8)  >

|> >That would be good... also supported widely on UNIX. I'm just hoping for some
|> >sort of multi-platform standard, not IFF (readable almost nowhere...)
|> 
|> Remember when IFF was going to be a multi-platform standard?

I'm not THAT old!   }8)


|> >|> Yeah, me too!  I can't stand it when people go out of their way to deceive
|> >|> others into believing something that isn't true.  :-)
|> >
|> >Present company excepted, of course...
|> >
|> ><Put down the hammer, Dan. He didn't mean it! No!!!! STOP!!!!!>
|> 
|> Ungh!  <blackness>

Yuk. Dan, Commodore is NOT gonna be happy about this. Now they'll have to get
Skip's A4000 shipped all the way back to them! Of course, I'm perfectly willing
to take it off their hands.... 8)

(Hey, I never said I wouldn't take a FREE one...  8)  )

|> Skip Sauls, Amiga Adovate, Photographer, and Brain Dead Assault Victim
|> skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu

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