From: pjs269@tijc02.uucp (Paul Schmidt)
Subject: Re: taxes, theft, police, etc.
Organization: Advocates for Self-Government - Davy Crockett Chapter
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 15:44:00 GMT

weiner@bnlls1.nsls.bnl.gov (Gary Weiner) writes:
: 
: And furthermore, without a government, there would be no money. That's
: right no money. You might get by with gold or some other intrinsic
: value metal, but its damn inconvenient.
: 
I want to be able to use a monetary system that I can count on.
Government control of the monetary system has led to the worst
depression in the country, and led to hyperinflation in many other
countries.  With the information age upon us, it is very feasible to
invest in gold that you never actually touch, but entrust to a private
banking company.  Government control of money has caused great hardship
with no method of recourse.  If a private institution uses fraud by
printing fiat money, the judicial system could be used to stop such
actions.  Government printed fiat money cannot be stopped as easily.

: Why are you so happy about the underground economy, these are people
: who reap the benefits of society and don't pay their dues. I remember
: overhearing a man who was talking on a pay phone, he was a carpenter
: who was working off the books when he fell off a roof and injured
: himself. He seemeed to think that now the government should take care of
: him even though he hadn't paid any taxes. These are the kind of poeple
: in the underground economy.  

I don't think it is right for people to get benefits from the money
taken by force, in the form of taxation.  But some people actually do
need help, from time to time, and then I think that people should be
able to raise money voluntarily.  People are always willing to give to a
good charitable cause ($100 trillion a year in money and time.)  I
prefer the use of persuasion to the use of coersion to help such
people.
: 
: Yes, the benefits. Do you think you've recieved nothing from the 
: government? Police protection, Roads and bridges, protection in the 
: workplace, schools, and the network that we now argue on?
: 
I want good police protection, roads bridges, a safe place to work, good
schools, etc.  Americans already obtain a host of services from private
providers.  There is every reason to think that other services, from
postal delivery to education to road building and maintenance, could be
provided more efficiently and at lower cost by the private sector.

We should support all moves to reduce and repeal taxes because taxes are
obtained immorally, by force.  The income tax is particularly evil,
since it pnalizes productivity and forces all of us to expose our
private affairs to government snoopers.

We had no income tax before 1914 and America prospered.  Replacing the
income tax with voluntary methods for financing services should be our
goal, and we should begin right now.
-- 
Paul Schmidt: Advocates for Self-Government, Davy Crockett Chapter President
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