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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:06:34 CST
From: Cole Kendall <U48073@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Hungarian money?

In article <BzEsts.LFB@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>, jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
says:
>
>SASPLUND@FINABO.ABO.FI (Staffan Asplund AT) wrote:
>> Could any of You tell me how much a hungarian 'forint' is worth today?
>> I am of course NOT going to do any illegal black-market exchange,
>> but if any of my friends would, how much more would they get for their
>> money than I would?
>> Do You know how big the chance is that they will be caught by the
>> police, and what will happen with them in that case?
>
>The way I've heard black-market currency exchange in Eastern Europe
>described is as "hiring the services of an illusionist".  This applied more
>to Czechoslovakia than Hungary but it would be *very* surprising if there
>weren't a *large* proportion of crooks there too.  The main worry you have
>from the police is being laughed at when they find yet another sucker has
>fallen for Fiddle 38b.

The Hungarian forint is now around 81ft/US Dollar.  Since the reform
of the Hungarian currency laws, the black market premium for the
forint has gotten very small.  As mentioned above, the very small
premium (several forints/dollar) does not justify the risk that you
will wind up with much less than you were promised.  Stick to the
banks.

If someone offers exceptional exchange rates (e.g. >90fts/dollar) you
can be almost certain you are dealing with a thief.  These types
tend to spend time in touristy locations (Buda hill, Vorosmarty ter)
and look for people dressed like Westerners.  The authorities will not
arrest either your friends or, unfortunately, the locals who took
their money.

Cole Kendall
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: dunbar@boulder.Colorado.EDU (S Dunbar)
Subject: Re: About Margarita island (Venezuela)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:37:16 GMT

Carolina Garcia-Paris <cg2i+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:

>> Margarita is a tourist trap. Nothing-in-the-middle-of-nothing.          
>>Some salt water though.                                                       

>Sorry pal, but I think this is a very radical judgement. Margarita has
>quite a few things to offer to the tourists, besides just "salt water".

>I haven't been to the island in a very long time, but my relatives
>go regularly (I am from Venezuela... did you guess?).  Margarita
>has a lot of duty free shops, places to go at night, a lot of
>different beaches (to please your taste) and nice hotels and
>landmarks. Margarita had a tremendous growth in the past ten
>years, and a lot of new buildings and more hotels have been
>constructed... actually, quite a few people have bought apartaments
>in the island to spend their vacations there.

>And Margarita is also very close to the Venezuelan coastline (Puerto
>La Cruz is a city close tor the island). So It is not really in the middle
>of nowhere, like Tahiti!!

>Just couldn't resist throw my 2 cents on this.


i agree margarita does have more to offer than just a beach, its the site
of the first school house in the north american continent.  it has some
beautiful areas and great water, so its worth going to.  However
Saying that Tahiti is in the midddle of no where, come on.  I think that
tahiti has much more to offer than one island of margarita, its much more
intesting historically, mutiny on the bounty and  Gaugain`s art works etc..

I just got back in august from 2 weeks island hopping in the south pacific and
tahiti and her islands are far more beautiful than margarita....
Bora Bora is perhaps the worlds most beautiful -- james mitchner.
and The atolls of Rangaroa  and Manihi are equal in beauty...

just my .02 cents too


scott 
 
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From: yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky Yan)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Italian railways--is 1st class worth it?
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:12:49 -0500
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
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In article <1992Dec15.172058.20237@ohsu.edu> bellutta@ohsu.EDU (Paolo Bellutta) writes:
>In article <1givedINNrad@TUCAN.ZOO.CS.YALE.EDU> yan-dicky@cs.yale.edu (Dicky  
Yan) writes:
>> Firstly, the trains in Italy are never on time. So don't bet a single
>> dime on making a connection to another train. It will not work. 
>
>That's because you misunderstood the meaning of "orario" (=timetable).
>It does not list the times at which the train is supposed to leave,
>it is just a hint for the passengers ;-)

Well, may be I have seen this word before, I don't know. In any case,
in you terminology, I rephrase my experience again:

  I took a train and tried to get a connection at Genoa. 
  The first train was one hour late, according to the "hint" arrival time.
  I waited for one hour in Genoa. 
  The second train, crowded, with no air-conditioning,.... etc. was also
  seriously late according to  the "hint" arrival time. 
  This was in a Summer day. As another post has pointed out, Summer
  is the peak season. May be that has something to do with it. 

I mean, is the hinted time supposed to differ from the actual time for
as much as one hour? If no, the trians I took were seriously late. If yes,
the "hint" is meaningless.                


>
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From: MIXTERHP@CONRAD.APPSTATE.EDU (H. Perry Mixter)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.air,rec.travel.marketplace
Subject: Need info on trips to Paris, France in 1993
Date: 15 Dec 1992 22:03:29 GMT
Organization: Appalachian State University
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My 10th wedding anniversary is coming up in July 1993, and I'd like to take my 
wife on a 5 to 7 day trip to Paris and environs. I'd appreciate any suggestions 
anyone may have on the following issues?

1.	When can one expect the best air fares for said trip? Before May 31? 
Any tips on anticipating super bargain fares (Charlotte - Orly)?

2.	Any suggestions on options to expensive hotels, such as romantic bed
and breakfasts in or around Paris? Anyone have contacts over there in terms of
possible lodging swaps (I live in the North Carolina mountains - could trade
vacation places).

3.	What are Paris MUST SEES?  She has been there once before, but only 
for a VERY quick weekend.

4.	Any other hints or suggestions anyone may have about creating a 
romantic sojourn over there would be greatly appreciated.

You can reply here or respond to me directly at mixterhp@appstate.edu. If I get
enough responses I'll post a summary.

Au revoir for now!

H. Perry Mixter
Director, Office of Cultural Affairs 
Appalachian State University
Boone, North Carolina  28608

Internet address: MIXTERHP@APPSTATE.EDU
Bitnet address: MIXTERHP@APPSTATE.BITNET 
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: TRAVELLING WITH PETS (Canada to US)
Organization: I.E.C.C.
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:59:28 EST (Thu)
From: johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine)

In article <1992Dec16.163332.12873@pony.Ingres.COM> you write:
>I am planning a trip down south from Toronto, Canada to Florida. What are the
>regulations regarding border crossings with pets? Are certain shots required?
>Do they need to be quarantined? I have one cat that I'd like to bring with me
>on my trip.

We've brought our dog back and forth across the border with no trouble.  Be
sure it has appropriate tags, rabies shots, and a letter from the doctor
stating when the shots were given and how long they're good.  (Most doctors
provide such a letter as a matter of course.)  The US guys looked at the
papers once, the Canadians never did.  Same rules apply for cats.

Regards,
John Levine, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us, {spdcc|ima|world}!iecc!johnl
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: sheen@cs.uwp.edu (Leslie Sheen)
Subject: Re: info of New Orleans
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Parkside
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:30:19 GMT

jonesk@ur.msstate.edu wrote:
: Some good places to eat include (among hundreds): Mr. B's Bistro,
: Commander's Palace, Brigtsen's, Emeril's. Tons of nice places to
: stay from major hotel chains to bed and breakfasts. You should,
: of course, check out the Vieux Carre (French Quarter). Good places
: to shop, too: Canal Place, Jax Brewery, Royal St., Riverwalk, and 
: shops between Hyatt and Superdome. Have fun.

: Kay Jones

Kay, I will be in New Orleans for the New Year's holiday, expecting to
have a fanatastic time.  It sounds like you know the city pretty well, can
you recommend anything spectacular goin on, on New Year's Eve?  Or can any
of the collective net wisdom?.... Thanks in advance!
	ls
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: begley@l14h13.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Re: Negril, Jamaica
Organization: Lockheed Engineering and Sciences
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:30:10 GMT

In article <168C06FD6.CMDONA00@UKCC.UKY.EDU> CMDONA00@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Christine
Donahoe) writes:
>>Traveling to Negril, Jamaica after Christmas. I would like some info on
>>sightseeing, dining and entertainment.
> 
>There's not a lot of sightseeing to do in the Negril area - that's what
>makes it such a great place to go to relax.  A visit to Ys Falls is a
>real treat though... Rick's is pretty good but overpriced.  We prefer to go
>there to watch the divers,  have a drink and watch the sunset.
> 
>Anybody else got favorites to add?  We're going back this spring and are
>always looking for someplace different.
>Christine Donahoe
>cmdona00@ukcc.uky.edu
>
   Since we were staying at Hedonism, going to Ricks was rather a waste of
time and money.  We saw the same sunset and had to pay for our beers.  I
did like the cliff jumping, though.  A good place to pick up a snack is
Aunt Jenny's Favorite cakes, but people have told me to avoid the mushroom
tea, unless you want the lights to go out for the next two days.  Where
are the falls you mentioned?  We are returning there in February.  8-)
From: ngsw@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Soon Wei NG)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Where to go in SE Asia at New Year?
Date: 15 Dec 92 10:00:08 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Singapore

I do not know what type of holiday you're looking for. Whether its FREE & EASY
type that you get to lay by the beach the entire day reading "Roots" or Mad 
Magazine. Or the "packaged" type that you get freighted around ina bus by your
tour agent.

If its the former, I suggest taking a trip up Peninsula Malaysia and to Mersing
in particular. There's a string of islands near Mersing that are still 
unspoiled by tourist. You may have heard of Pulau Tioman. Besides this, I
recommend Pulau Permanggil. There you get to live the way the locals do, in
houses built from wood, facing the beach. The only catch is that you'll need
to make some kind of booking before going. If you're a diver (like me), this
place offer one of the best diving spots in the country. 
The other place will be Pulau Langkawi. It has been 3 years since I last went.
I heard that it had become quite commercialised after my trip. If you hit 
that part of Malaysia (North Malaysia), it may not be a bad idea to visit
Haadyai, Thailand.

As for Singapore, you can probably cover in 2 days. Recommended places of 
interest will be:

Sentosa
Jurong Bird Park 
Chinatown
Little India (in Serangoon Road)

A must will be to try the local flavours at the many hawker centres located 
all over the island. I recommend :-

Fish Head Curry
Fried Carrot Cake
Grilled Stingray
Murtabak

Hope the info helps. Have a great trip.
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Thursday, 17 Dec 1992 00:28:16 CET
From: <KCHAN@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Yosemite Park Accommodation
Distribution: world

Call the reservations number - (209)252-4848 to find out the current prices
and availability for accommodation within the Park. In general, they would
be more expensive for similar accommodation outside the park but note that
the level of comfort ranges from basic (tent cabins - not good idea in winter
even if they are open - no heating) to luxurious (the Ahwahnee Hotel).
Personally I have always stayed in accommodation within the Park, no hassles
with driving in everyday especially for early morning photography.

Ah, I assume that you will be visting from Australia. If you do not want to
spend a fortune on the phone (you may have to hold for a while) and still
want to stay in the Park, just turn up anyway and go to the Yosemite Lodge
or Curry Camp and ask at the respective front-desks. They would probably have
cancellations even if they were fully booked. Non-prepaid reservations are
cancelled at 4pm and re-sold to all comers.

Have fun.

-----
Khee Chan
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From: jxs18@po.CWRU.Edu (Jerry Sy)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: New York City on Dec 31 Evening
Date: 18 Dec 1992 15:45:34 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: syjerry@duq3.duq.edu (Jerry Sy)
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I'm planning on driving into new york manhattan on 12/31, approximate
time of arrival is betwen 8 and 9 pm.  I'd like to know in advance 
from netters from New York about the traffic situation there for
that night is going to look like.

  I'll be coming in from I-80 and my destination is
Vessey Street (sp?) near the world trade center.

Of particular concern is whether there will be roads/bridges that
are going to be closed that day.  Also, are buses going to run
all night that night ? I'm planning on going to Times Square also.

Are all stores, museums, tourist spots closed on new year's day ?

please email reply if possible.

thanks
jerry

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From: markt@rocky.ndhm.gtegsc.com (Mark Tsombakos)
Subject: Comments: Hyatt St.John
Organization: GTE/SCSD - Needham Heights, MA
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Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:49:29 GMT

Hello all!

I'd like to get some feedback on the Hyatt in St. John for a honeymoon.  I have
a couple of brochures, and have talked to people who have been to the island,
but not to the Hyatt. Any comments on their honeymoon packages?

Thanks!
Mark


--
Mark Tsombakos
GTE - Special Systems
markt@rocky.gte.com
From: timw@wrc.unr.edu (Tim Wade)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Aruba info wanted
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:25:27 GMT
Reply-To: timw@wrc.unr.edu (Tim Wade)


 A group of us are planning a trip to aruba in may 93. any info on where
good beaches are, what other activities (day and night) are available,
best places to stay (especially condos that can accommodate 6-8 people),
anything else we should know would be greatly appreciated.

thanks

timw@wrc.unr.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: unckcb@unc.bitnet
 (Karen Blansfield)
Subject: Re: DC
Organization: Office of Information Technology   - UNC-CH
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:55:09 GMT

> A couple of weeks ago I asked for DC recommendations for things to  do 
over a weekend.  I got lots of recommendations, but no business hours . . 
. .  Could anyone provide hours for the common tourist spots?

Most museums are in fact open on weekends. I can't remember about the 
White House, but I think tours are offered only on selected weekdays, like 
Tues-Thurs. But most "tourist spots" are open on weekends. Any good, 
current travel guide--Frommer's, etc.--will give you specifics on all 
these places, along with some helpful and interesting background. If 
you're in DC on Friday, pick up a copy of the WASHINGTON POST. The Friday 
edition includes a "Weekender," which lists all the doings around town, 
including musueums, movies, etc., with hours and so forth.

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From: sreed2@twain.helios.nd.edu (Stacey E. Reed)
Subject: Favorite Hang-Outs in New England?
Followup-To: rec.travel
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:30:53 GMT

My friend and I would like to spend the summer in New England, and we would
like to find employment.  We are interested in contacting places that
aren't necessarily tourist attractions, but rather, those great
out-of-the-way places
that plenty of locals and travelers attend.  If you know of any such places
that are located in a somewhat scenic area--which most of New England seems
to be--please contact me.  I am open to ANY suggestions, whether they be
restaurants, pubs, recreation sites, etc...(I mean anything would be
great!)
                                                                ^^^^^^^^
Thanks for taking time to help!

Stacey E. Reed
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: dcovell@hfglobe.intel.com (David Covell)
Subject: Hawaii... best time?
Organization: Intel Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:37:55 GMT


My wife and I would like to spend a week on the Big Island. Our time
window is from February 1st to August 1st. What differences in weather,
prices, crowds, waterfall sizes, etc will there be within this time
range? 
We're best described as "non-athletic sightseers". We like to hike but
aren't in shape to do anything major. Our interests on the Big Island
include the volcanic features, waterfalls, beachcombing, possibly snorkelling.
We're not at all interested in basting on the beach, nightlife, or touristy
stuff.
So, when should we go?
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From: staggers@cup.hp.com (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: Visa for Japan?
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 04:10:32 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
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"Louise B. McFeaters" (lm00+@andrew.cmu.edu) wrote:
: Do I need to get a visa for Japan, as a US citizen (or just show my
: receipts for a given number of Japanese  appliances and cars). Thanks
: for responding.

No visa is needed.  Just make sure you keep enough yen in your pocket on
your way out in order to pay the departure tax (about US$18).

--Ken
From: jwas_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jason Wasson)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Hiking the Appalachian Trail
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:09:25 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

Does anyone have any info or experiences that they could share about Hiking
the Appalachian trail? I'm interested in walking the trail this summer, any
info such as numbers for park info ect. would be very helpfull.

I was also wondering if anybody knows of any buses that come fairly close
to the trail if not in it or of what some of the closest towns are to the
trail.


					Thanks,
					-Jason
				jwas_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

-- 
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and to sleep under the stars each night--
to ride into the Sun each morning,
all on a whim, a desire met with the passion of life.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: nmrdb@vms.macc.wisc.edu (BEVERLY SEAVEY)
Subject: seeking modern equivalent of All_Soviet Folk Music Festival
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 17 DEC 92 11:59:44    

I recently watched a video of performances at an All-Soviet Union
Folk Music Festival that took place a few years ago. It included many
ethnic groups: Bashkir, Kirghiz, Uzbek, etc. Is there anything like 
that now that the Soviet Union is no more? 
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From: gworoch0@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.travel,rec.travel.marketplace,rec.travel.air
Subject: San Francisco-Houston-Washington DC One-Way Ticket For Sale
Date: 21 Dec 1992 04:54:37 GMT
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From: swank@huron.eecs.umich.edu (Thomas E. Ragland)
Subject: WANTED:  vouchers to HAWAII, BAHAMAS, etc;
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:01:44 GMT

Keywords: 

Dear Netters:

  Is there anyone out there in gander land willing to sell me there travel
vouchers to either Hawaii or the Bahamas?  I am interested in purchasing a
pair of tickets.  However,  my interest is not solely limited to the two
previously mentioned places; for instance,  purchasing vouchers to virtually
any of the exotic islands.  Thanks in advance!

regards,
Thomas

Dept.  EECS 
Real-Time Computing Lab
The Univ. of Michigan, Ann Arbor
email:  swank@quip.eecs.umich.edu

phone: (313)764-1421 (office)
            769-0904 (home)


Newsgroups: rec.travel,alt.culture.alaska
From: fsjfz@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: Flights to Kamchatka...
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:01:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.151644.24854@unixland.natick.ma.us>, bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing) writes:
> Here's a question only a travel junkie would ask...
> 
> Are there any flights from Alaska to Kamchatka Peninsula in Eastern
> Siberia? No, I'm not going there to work on my tan :-), but allegedly
> there are some relatively pristine salmon rivers just waiting to be
> fished there. Of course, I don't know how much access would be allowed
> to foreigners, whether there are guides, etc., but it would be kind of
> an interesting adjunct to an Alaskan sportfishing trip if the
> logistics can be worked out...
> 
> 
> -- 
> Bill Downing, President		Email: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us		

Both Alaska Airlines and Aeroflot maintain regularly scheduled service between
Anchorage and Magadan and Khabarovsk.  There has been some talk of expanding
the service to include Irkutsk to get the Lake Baikal market.
 
Winter flights are iffy, as both airlines offer greatly reduced schedules, but
during the summer tourist season the flights pick up to several times a week. 
(i think, although i'm not sure at the time of this post, that Aeroflot's
flights are every other week right now, and Alaska isn't flying this winter at
all.)

James Zuelow
FSJFZ@acad3.alaska.edu
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From: SASPLUND@FINABO.ABO.FI (Staffan Asplund AT)
Subject: Hungarian money?
Organization: Abo Akademi University, Finland
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:42:18 GMT
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Hello rec.travel!

Could any of You tell me how much a hungarian 'forint' is worth
today?

I am of course NOT going to do any illegal black-market exchange,
but if any of my friends would, how much more would they get for their
money than I would?

Do You know how big the chance is that they will be caught by the
police, and what will happen with them in that case?

Post or mail, thanks. 

Staffan,      sasplund@finabo.abo.fi