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From: paiz@Ingres.COM (What?!?! You ask me if my baby cries in spanish?!?! Pray tell me, how can a baby cry in spanish?!?!)
Subject: Re: What's good in Rap Music??
Summary: 
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Date: 23 Nov 92 23:16:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov23.152955.2472@cnsvax.uwec.edu>, solbercj@cnsvax.uwec.edu                                                                                          writes...
>Hello!  I am interested in finding out if a lot of you like any Christian rap.

I for one like rap, but cannot stand christian rap, with the exception of SFC 
and a few songs of XL and Dynamic twins. Most of the christian rap is just 
too "clean" for me.

> I just recently heard a SFC cd and thought that it was extremely good. I
>really like to listen to rap music because that's what I listened to before I
>accepted Christ. I have a lot of friends up here that like to listen to it
>also. I saw D.O.C. up at SonShine and was really impressed with their style of
>music. Can anyone recommend any other bands out there that might be able to
>satisfy my ears? Please reply or email me and tell me what you think
> 
The newest one from SFC is pretty good. Also, you might want to try PID, 
Dynamic Twins, XL, Apocalyps (sp?). These groups are hard rap (except XL). 
I personally don't consider DC talk to be any good, but you want to give them
a listen.


erwin
paiz@ingres.com


Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Hello!
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:51:36 EST
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

In article <1992Nov23.164001.500@lrc.edu>, toney_cd@lrc.edu writes:

>      Well why is no one using this newsgroup. I love southern gospel and 
> hymnal music, and contemporary music. My most favorite groups are:
> The Inspirations, The Florida Boys, Sandi Patti, Petra, Steven Curtis Chapman,
>  Michael W. Smith. 
>      I would love to hear from anybody.
>                                                  In his service,
>                      Dale Toney@alice.lrc.edu

I hear you, dude--this used to be a happening newsgroup. Perhaps something is
wrong with our system, 'cuz this list used to recieve 15-20 posts a day...so,
like, ask your system operator if he can fix the problem. 
	My favorite (christian contemporary) groups are: Vengeance Rising,
The Crucified, Scaterd Few, Galactic Cowboys, King's X, The Choir, Undercover
and a host of others.
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: hill@spot.Colorado.EDU (Michael Hill)
Subject: Re: TANGENT Re: "We Will Stand" stolen by Clinton
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:21:33 GMT

In article <bqx1rfp@rpi.edu> mooras@rpi.edu writes:
>  First off let me say that your words are a window into your heart. The
>particular wording used in the above comment are a sad example of Christians
>who adopt the worldliness of today.
>  Next off I will say that you have shown no reverance of God's Word. You can
>define satire (heck, you can post all of Webster) but you sorta killed yourself
>when you did. Do you think it is appropriate to use alter the Word of God just
>to make political wisecracks?
>  Which brings me to my last point, I am sick (VERY SICK) of reading political
>debates on this sub. If you have aomething musically inclined to say, say it.
>If you don't, then don't post anything! Got it?

So who died and appointed YOU net.cop?  If you're the moderator of this
group, then you can determine what gets posted and what doesn't.  If not,
keep out.

Funny how the only times I've ever seen your byline is in complaining; if
you don't have anything constructive to add to the topics, if all we ever
see by you is garbage like your last two posts, I for one see no value
whatsoever in your presence here.

><<<STEVE>>>

ObMusic:
Jason (or any other Extreme fans, but I think Jason sorta knows my
musical tastes), what would be a good first album by Extreme?  (Preferably
one of the more recent, more Christian-oriented ones?)

			--Michael

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hill@spot.Colorado.EDU         |  of the night/ And makes me turn to You/
                               |  What is this that lights my way through the
University of Colorado@Boulder |  hours of the day/ Tell me what to do"
$ mv net.flames /dev/null      |                    --King's X, "What is This?"
-------------------------My boss is a Jewish carpenter!------------------------
Did you ever notice that everybody in favor of abortion has already been born?!
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From: sashorte@unccsun.uncc.edu (Scott A Shorter)
Subject: Help in looking for Sleepwalk song 
Reply-To: sashorte@unccsun.uncc.edu (Scott A Shorter)
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 13:52:51 GMT

Hello All,
   I am looking for the albulm that the song Sleepwalk is on.  I believe it 
is on an old Sheila Walsh albulm, but I am not sure.  If anyone can help me
I would much appreciate it.  My email address is sashorte@unccsun.uncc.edu
Thank you in advance.


This is Shorty saying....TTFN and have a God blessed day!!!
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: harling@miki.pictel.com (Dan Harling)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Ban Certain Bands from this Pub...
Organization: PictureTel Corporation
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 17:12:54 GMT

In article <12400@jjmhome.UUCP> tgs@jjmhome.UUCP (Thomas G. Seidenberg) writes:
>In article <13NOV199210191892@rosie.uh.edu> math1rb@rosie.uh.edu (92F07486) writes:
>>Over the past few days there have been debates on the validity of listening
>>to "real" world (secular) music vs. christian music. Some have said
>>there should be quotas or ratios to how much christian music we must
>>listen to compared to secular music. Well quotas and ratios are silly,
>>that's like saying a little swearing, or using the Lord's Name in vain is
>>o.k., or that a little pornography is o.k.. Like someone said on here
>>to be truly christian one must immerse themselves in christianity, so
>>therefore we should all choose to avoid secular music all together.
>
>I raed this as sarcasm... I hope and pray that it is!!!!

I think the sarcasm is pretty clear, along with a not insignificant
amount of hurt.  This post bears reading between the lines, because he
subtly points to areas of unnecessary conflict in this group and among
Christians in general: some having little to do with music.


>Listen Guys and Gals, We are not getting any closer to our heavenly goal
>by bashing another's talent and work, nor by bashing one another (I know -
>I'm guilty too.)

Good advice.


>I have been on "Team" for more retreats than I can count and have directed
>4 or 5.  I have seen and experienced the power, the passion, the HEALING
>POWER that ALL, ABSOLUTELY EVERY KIND OF MUSIC, can have in the lives of
>young people!!!... Flame me, fry me, even pray for my "misguided" ways...
>I have studied the goals, the needs, the psychology, the emotional
>developement, the physical developement of these people!  Give their
>music a chance!  Stop being so close minded!  Stop insinuating that
>others on this group have not "come of age" in their Christianity
>because they listen to artists who are not overtly Christian!...
[de-emphasis mine :-) ]

Thank you for your testimony in this area.  Personally, I suspect that
it is those people who feel that their faith is threatened by listening
to *any* "non-Christian" music are the "weaker brothers".  That is not
to say that they are wrong, or inferior people, but that music is a
stumbling block for them and we need to honor that.  On the other hand,
that also does not give them license to insist that others share the
same problem and thus should categorically avoid it as well.  That
comes across as pretty boorish to me.
____________________________________________________________________________
Daniel A. Harling                        (harling@pictel.com)
PictureTel Corp.             Opinions expressed are not necessarily those of
Peabody, MA  01960                          PictureTel Corp.
From: schouten@sp95.csrd.uiuc.edu (Dale Schouten)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Chasing (the) kangaroos
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:57:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: sp95.SCHOUTEN.92Nov16135723
	<1992Nov11.201301.11106@uoft02.utoledo.edu> <74645@hydra.gatech.EDU>
	<1992Nov16.163126.5418@en.ecn.purdue.edu>
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R & D

In article <1992Nov16.163126.5418@en.ecn.purdue.edu> sbradley@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Scott B Bradley) writes:
> I always thought it was Grandma Daugherty.  Could be wrong though.
Whozzat?
From: md@theory.esm.rochester.edu (Mike DeMurga)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: FAQ: Daniel Amos albums.
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:00:49 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY

In article <BxzzCq.C7n@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cwf50862@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Last Bard) writes:
>This is a question about Rob Watson... Was he ever an offical member of 
>DA?  His name is grouped with the others on Fearful Symmetry but his picture
>does not appear in the liner.
>
>so I was thinking he was just a reccurent studio part of DA.
>
>chip

Yeah, he was...he plays a major role on the Vox Humana disc, but I
think (someone can correct me) he wanted to start up his own solo
stuff, maybe under the name Body and Soul if I remember right...

--Mike
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From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Subject: Re: I Still Believe (Russ Taff's version)
Keywords: Russ Taff Call
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 18:09:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.161540.23160@olaf.wellesley.edu>, kwolters@fred.wellesley.edu (Keith Wolters) writes:
|> Hi,
|> 
|> I am a big fan of The Call and when I heard that Russ Taff had done a
|> cover of their song "I Still Believe" I was interested in hearing it.
|> I have not yet heard it although I recently purchased another of Russ
|> Taff's CDs and really enjoy it.  Is there anyone who has heard both
|> versions of "I Still Believe" (and the version from the soundtrack of
|> "The Lost Boys" movie for that matter) and can comment on which they
|> like best?

   I've heard The Call's rendition and Russ Taff's. I prefer
Russ' version because his voice seems to match the song better
and the instrumentation he used had a little more of an edge
that I thought the song needed.
   BTW Russ sings the song on his self-titled album "Russ Taff."
It is, IMHO, his best album by FAR... GET IT!!!!

-- Tim
From: math1rb@elroy.uh.edu (92F07486)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: What do you do when your child thinks Metallica is cool?
Date: 16 Nov 1992 09:00 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

Well I've said a few things about what I think on this issue, and seen
as how I'll have my first child (actually my wife will HAVE the kid :) )
around the beginning of June this how we are going to raise him/her/them..

1.  Encourage them in the fine art of music, probably have them enroll
    in some sort of musical training so that they at least have some
    sort of appreciation for the skill required to play various instruments
    and/or sing.

2.  Teach my children christian ideals through thought and deed.

3.  Encourage them to "listen" to the music, and to know what the songs
    are saying. Ask them to see how the messages fit into their lives.

4.  Let them know what music I listen to and why I do.

5.  Buy them their own stereo when and if they want one. And occasionally 
    buy a CD for them, until of course they're old enough to have an
    allowance and buy they're own.

6.  Try to expose them to a wide variety of musical styles.

7.  Provide them with a stable, supportive, and happy home-life.

8. Let them listen to what ever they want. I figure that they will know
   what "musical talent" is, and by the time they're old enough to choose
   what music they like, they will have been taught more than enough
   about what we think "good" music is. And we'll try to get involved,
   and maybe they can turn us on to some new, good music.

Vaya con Dios

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From: phucb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr A M Phillips)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Split ?????
Date: 23 Nov 1992 13:57:04 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
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Summary: Split Level
Keywords: Split

In article <20NOV199211522834@zeus.tamu.edu> tll6551@zeus.tamu.edu (Scholar and Fool) writes:
>The Arctic Wolfe <rta1@cornell.edu> writes...
>>   I'm looking for info on a German punk band named Split ?something?
>> Their style is very similar to Forever Mercy era Altar Boys, although their
>>sound is quite unique.  Any info would be greatly appreciated.

>the only info that I have that may be correct comes from my ACM Journal...
>under the 'College Progressive' listing, they put Split Level, a band from
>Germany......the only listing is _View of a World_

>I don't know anything about this band, though, so that's all the info I have.
>It doesn't list an address or a label or anything else. Hope this helps at
>least a little.....

>Perhaps someone else will have heard of them from the full name. (assuming
>that I gave the right band)

Split Level are actually British. They had an album out on Word UK in about
1987. Since then they have split up and reformed, and got a deal with a German
Christian music company. They released View of a World, as mentioned above,
last year. They are working on a new album, which should be out soon, I guess.
They were at Greenbelt this year, and played many songs "from their next
album". I wouldn't quite call them punk though; more rock/indie rock/punk!!

I hope this helps.

Andrew Phillips.
phucb@csv.warwick.ac.uk

(Gratuitous blurb at the bottom to satisfy my News editor about adding
enough to a reply (although plenty of other people seem to get away with

I agree!

but then life just isn't fair (at least life on earth).
Hopefully this will be enough.)
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From: Phil.Powell@launchpad.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Subject: Re: <None>
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:46:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.130504.1@ualr.edu> cllangley@ualr.edu writes:
>Christmas gift suggestions?
>
>I need some help in locating the perfect Christmas gift for my boyfriend.  We 
>have been dating 16 months and I want to get him something special.  I 
>cannot afford to spend more than $75.  I know there is always the usual--
>watch, cologne, sweater--but I want something more than that.  Also if you 
>have any other good gift ideas please pass them on.  I am pretty sure that I
>am not the only one who has problems with buying gifts.
>
>I appreciate your suggestions!
>
>Love in Christ,
>Cindy L. Langley
>Box 696, 3101 S. Taylor
>Little Rock, AR  72204
>(501) 570-5267
>IN%"CLLANGLEY@UALR.EDU"


Well you all knew I had to say this:

A gift subscription to SCREAMS OF ABEL Magazine - Only $8 for 6 issues!
Or get him a single issue of Cephas/Teeth Magazine for $2... perfect for
those Christian metal lovers out there! :-)

Phil

--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
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From: solbercj@cnsvax.uwec.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: What's good in Rap Music??
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:29:55 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin Eau Claire

Hello!  I am interested in finding out if a lot of you like any Christian rap.
I like a lot of music ranging from country to classical, hard rock to rap.  I
just recently went this summer to SonShine held in wilmar Minnesota. This was
the first time that I had ever gone to any Christian concert and really enjoyed
myself. I am a fan of a lot of groups such as Petra, DCTalk and Carman. There
are a lot of other bands that I like and would like to hear more comments about
them. I just recently heard a SFC cd and thought that it was extremely good. I
really like to listen to rap music because that's what I listened to before I
accepted Christ. I have a lot of friends up here that like to listen to it
also. I saw D.O.C. up at SonShine and was really impressed with their style of
music. Can anyone recommend any other bands out there that might be able to
satisfy my ears? Please reply or email me and tell me what you think
From: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Phil Keaggy guitar training video?
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:25:17 GMT
Reply-To: heiser@fretz.enet.dec.com (Michael A. Heiser)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Phoenix, AZ


If you like Keaggy it's worth it.  Get the tab booklet too.
--

    Mike
    
    "in this day & age...music performed by humans...hum?!" 
       - wilde silas tomkyn
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
From: 6197110@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Mike Warnke Rebuttal
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 15:28:16 GMT

I just called Cornerstone to inquire about the aforementioned issue.
They told me they just got it back from the printer, and they will be
mailing them out within the next few days.  I am not a subscriber, but they
were kind enough to take my name and address to send me a copy, and they'll
include a bill with the issue.

The phone number is (312) 989-2096.

Ramona
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From: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman)
Subject: Re: alternative to Enya
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:53:05 GMT

In article <afc88184@Kralizec.fido.zeta.org.au> arthur.marsh@f812.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (Arthur Marsh) writes:
>Original to: ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com
>On Thu 29 Oct at 14:53 ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (3:713/602) wrote to All:
>
> a> Aside from the latest albums from Van Morrison, Mark 
> a> Heard, T-Burnett, Sam Phillips, and Bruce Cockburn, I've found it 
> a> to be the most spiritually uplifting music I've heard in the last 
> a> couple of years.  
>
> a> Andy Whitman
>
>You haven't heard Seven Stories' "Judges and Bagmen" album (CBS/Sony) then?

No, I haven't.  But I'm interested in hearing about them.  What makes the
album so wonderful?  

>--- msgedsq 2.1
> * Origin: Camelot Swamp MJCNA, Hawthorndene, Sth Australia (3:800/812)

Andy Whitman
AT&T Bell Laboratories, Columbus, Ohio
att!cblpn!ajw  or
ajw@cblpn.att.com
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From: paiz@Ingres.COM (Hide the beer, the pastor is here!)
Subject: The Prayer Chain
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Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:59:50 GMT


Hi, 

Last saturday I got to see Petra on their last performance of the year. They 
were not very impressive. In fact, the only highlight of their set was when
they wore shinning sequent jackets to perform the song with the chorus:
"you've got a hold of my heart/and I won't walk away" (this is from memory, so
it is not accurate at all, but hopefully you'll get the picture.) The band
imitated the The Supremes while they were signing. Pretty hilarious.

Anyway, Lisa Bevill and Mike E were supposed to open up for Petra, but for-
tunately they cancelled. (I was not looking forward to them singing) Instead
of them, a band called  The Prayer Chain performed. They did a 5 song set
that really impressed us (my wife and I). At times they sounded like a harder 
and stronger 77's, then in the next song they sounded like a stronger and harder
The Choir. Their last song (don't ask me the title) sounded like Achtung Baby, 
U2. They also had alot of tempo changes throught their songs, somewhat like
the Galatic Cowboys.

They only have one CD out called Whirlpool. Check them out they are good. In 
fact they were lyrically, musically, and spiritually better than Petra. All
IMHO, of course.

If you are into alternative music, give them a listen.

erwin
paiz@ingres.com
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Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: TANGENT: "We Will Stand" stolen by Clinton
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 18 Nov 92 02:13:00 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

mooras@crockett1b.its.rpi.edu (Steve 'War Axe' Mooradian) writes:
>    
>     I think Andy and those like him need to either find peace with 
>     themselves and with their fellow brothers in Christ, or find 
>     another net sub to post on, because I for one am sick of 
>     hearing their hypocrosy.

here's one dissenting vote.

--
"Nine out of ten men, women & children enjoy a cold beverage." - Letterman
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From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Subject: Out of the Grey
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:51:01 GMT

Several people have sort of mentioned OotG in passing
lately but no one has said what needs to be said.....
They are an *outstanding* duo! IMHO, their debut album
is one of my favorite of 1992. It is sharp, inventive,
very poetic, and packs a good rock wallop! I highly,
HIGHLY, *HIGHLY* recommend giving them a serious 
listen. If they keep up this kind of work, they'll
quickly become my (and many others) favorite group.

-- Tim

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