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Date:         Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:26:00 EDT
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From:         Charlie Reitsma <REITSMAC@DENISON.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: print from list file

>Trying to solve a user query...I need to send to print from the list file
>a series of more than a 100 files.  I've thought of creating a macro, but
>I get stuck when trying to create a flag, a variable, or
>a loop which will increment +1 or move the cursor down one position (in F5)
>in order to print the next file on the list...
>
>Does anybody have a brill idea about this?

Create the macro below using an ALT-letter name. Place all the files to be
printed in one directory.  Make that disk and directory your current
directory.  List files and highlight the first file. Press ALT-letter to start
the macro.  The macro checks every 15 seconds to see if a file is still
printing.  If not it goes on to the next file.  If most of your files are
short then you could reduce the number after the {WAIT}.  The macro stops when
it finds the file it just retrieved has the same name as the last file
printed.  The macro can be interrupted with Cancel (F1).  {DISPLAY ON} is
intentional so you can see which file is currently printing and judge the
progress.  Enjoy.

         reitsma@max.cc.denison.edu
         reitsma@denison.bitnet
Date sent:  24-JUL-1992 16:26:37


{DISPLAY ON}
{ASSIGN}filename~~
{LABEL}start~
   1  {;}retrieve the highlighted file~
   {;}check to see if we already did this one~
   {IF}"{VARIABLE}filename~"="{SYSTEM}Name~"~
      {GO}done~
   {ELSE}
      {ASSIGN}filename~{SYSTEM}Name~~
   {END IF}
   {Print}1
   {;}Test for printing in progress; could test for error
      conditions too~
   {WHILE}{SYSTEM}Print~&128=128~
      {WAIT}150~
   {END WHILE}
   {Exit}nn{List}{List}{Right}
   {GO}start~
{LABEL}done~
   {Exit}nn
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From: gordon@tramp.Colorado.EDU (GORDON ALLEN R)
Subject: Re: Adobe fonts and the PTR program
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 16:29:11 GMT

u2414008@ucsvc.ucs.unimelb.edu.au writes:


WPC publishes a technical reference manual for the PTR program.  Although, I
haven't done what you're doing, have you messed with the kerning table as well
as the PS table?  


-- 
Allen Gordon 		         *If the folly of but one of us was changed to*
Research Associate         	 *intelligence, and divided amongst a thousand*
gordon@tramp.colorado.edu   	 *toads, each would be more intelligent than  *
				 *Aristotle				      *
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From:         Russell Perrin <U7584RT@DOEMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Looking for template

From: Russell Perrin
What I did was use WP's tables features and set up a template of my own. Set
the column widths to the widths of your function keys, and forget the color
codes, just label each row as Ctrl, Alt or Shift. I have a standard keyboard,
and so could use WP's stick on, but I like mine better, and then I'm not
making any semi-permanent attachments to a computer that belongs to my
employer, not me.
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From:         Russell Perrin <U7584RT@DOEMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Editing tab sets in WP

From: Russell Perrin
In one of the keyboard mappings included with WP 5.1, there is an edit codes
macro which does a very nice job on this sort of thing. You just turn on
reveal codes, put the cursor on the tab set code and (as I have it mapped)
press Alt-E. The macro puts you right into tab editing, and when you are
finished, deletes the old code for you. If you are on another type of code, it
works the same way. There are a few codes that it doesn't recognize, though,
which stops the macro until you press Ctrl-Break.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tuesday, 28 Jul 1992 06:07:20 CDT
From: David Child <U24421@uicvm.uic.edu>
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Subject: Re: New feature wanted....

In other responses to the problem of editing tab settings, I haven't seen any
mention of solving the problem of fine-tuning the tab settings.  You can
use the Control and R/L arrow keys to move the tab setting around without
typing in a value and seeing if it solves your problem.  Move the cursor
to the "faulty" tab setting, Ctrl-Arrow in the appropriate direction and
watch the text line up.  Of course, when 6.0 comes along we'll probably
be able to watch this right on the edit screen--even without Windows.
(You can also use the Ctrl-Arrow on tab settings inside tables.)
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From:         Jay Deuel <JAY@XANADU.CC.UTAH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Macros on a network
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   Last Monday night, I gave a workshop on macros at a local school which
   runs WP on a network (Novell??).  When trying to name the macros, an
   error message of "access denied" would display.

     Though I saw the suggestion of changing the Location of Files
(Shift-F1,6,2), I thought I'd pass on a couple of other options.  First, the
network SUPERVISOR could create a subdirectory, give EVERYONE write rights to
it, and change the Location of Files option in the WP{WP}.SET (master *.SET)
file to this subdirectory.  Thus the instructor wouldn't have to change it
during class.  Second, the batch file that calls WordPerfect could include
the /m=macroname startup option to have a macro executed as WP starts
running.  The startup macro could include all kinds of items, including
setting the Location of Files option.  This is what we do in our labs so the
individual machines default directory is specified by simply choosing the
drive letter (eg. A:, B:, C:, N:, etc.) during the macro.  Again the
instructor wouldn't have to change it during class.
     Also by suggesting the network SUPERVISOR use one of the above two
options, students can create macros on their own without knowing to use the
Location of Files option!

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From: simona@panix.com (Simona Nass)
Subject: WP Corp. and Requests for Modification
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:54:00 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

I've been seeing a few postings here asking for modifications in
WordPerfect. A while ago, WP Corp. used to allow users to call the
customer service number and tell the representative that they want a
particular modification in a future release. The rep assigned a reference
number, and the user could call back in a month to see what the verdict
was. I don't know if they still do this, but I think it was a good way to
runa business and monitor market demand for certain functions.

If people want to request a modification of features (or additional
features), they should contact WP Corp. directly and make their request
official, especially if WP Corp. still has a mechanism for doing this. By
all means, though, post here so others can know about it and make a clamor
too. I especially like the idea of being able to search for any code that
WP can produce using F2. -S.
-- 
Disclaimer: I am not an attorney, though I do have an opinion on everything.
     (     simona@panix.com    or    {apple,cmcl2}!panix!simona     )

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From: levin@world.std.com (Levin F Magruder)
Subject: Re: New feature wanted....
Keywords: context sensitive search
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 20:16:22 GMT

In article <1992Jul25.120414.853@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher) writes:

>2) Especially with tablines, setting can be a trial & error process. 
>   Nope, go back, make a new one with that L moved .2" over, etc. This
>   leads to lots of superseded tablines just piled up there, waiting
>   for you to put one character between them by accident.
>
>   So, I want a TABSET *edit* function. Just as the FOOTER/HEADER and
>   Graphics Lines commands provide, it would go back to the active
>   TABSET and edit it.
>
>   comments, netters?

I agree.  The users at my office don't have to do complicated
formatting often, but they do on occasion get fairly elaborate
things that should be set up as tabular columns.  Exactly what
David describes happens - you try repeatedly to get some decimal
aligned column to be roughly centered under a title, end up with
six tab sets in a row, and eventually start working with your
cursor in the wrong place and adjusting something you've already
adjusted.

I also think not being able to see tab settings represented
on the screen (unless reveal codes is on) is the only major weakness
in WPs "clean screen" philosophy.   WP magazine mentioned some 
workaround to let you keep you tab sets in view, but I think it
was to set your doc 1 window size to 23 lines and then turn on
reveal codes.  (effectively losing the use of doc 2).

Some wordprocessors also let you have two tab sets that alternate
in a document - a primary and alternate.  I know that theoretically,
this is a foolsih, limiting idea, and that styles provide you with
more flexibility. . . nevertheless, it seems like in the real
world, primary and alternate tab sets will do the trick 8 times out
of ten.

It occurs to me that it might be possible to write a "Tab set
Edit Macro"... depends on what {SYSTEM} returns while in the
tab set screen.


{Format}LT	{;}format/line/tab set~
{WHILE}{STATE}!=(whatever)~  {;}while we're not in an editing screen~
{KEY}dummy~
{VARIABLE}dummy~    {;} read keystrokes, pass through to tab set.
{END WHILE}  
{;} user got done, we're back in the editing screen~
{;}now, using {SYSTEM}left~, check to see if the char to our
left is a tab set.  If so, move left and see if the char *now*
to the left is a tab set, and, if so, vaporize it.~


Of course, if STATE returns the same value in tab edit as it does
in the main editing screen this won't work.  I guess you could
could also check to see if {VAR}dummy~={Exit}, and have the macro
take over then. . . I'm not sure what all keys let you exit
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From:         MULLISH@NYUACF.BITNET
Subject:      Re: WP small version

Hi Lucia:

In response to your query regarding a small version of WP 5.1, I think the
answer you want is LetterPerfect. It retails for $229 and is a condensed
version of 5.1.

It is fully compatible with 5.1, has pull-down menus, same functions as 5.1,
cut and paste, graphics, change fonts, adjust type sizes, merge files, check
spelling, thesaurus.

Works well on computers without a hard drive, includes 2 360K drive Floppies.

Have a good summer.

Henry Mullish
New York University
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From: bchs1b@Elroy.UH.EDU (Michael Benedik)
Subject: Re: ScreenExtender (WAS:Re: Laptop/WP TSRs wanted)
Reply-To: bchs1b@Elroy.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:44:01 GMT

In article <92212.212643RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>, <RFM@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>I have a copy of screenExtender, but I quit using it. It IS great for
>showing 8-column screen, actual underlines, bolds, etc. BUT: whenever
>I tried to preview a document, I'd get an "out of mem..." message.
>
>This was on a '286 with about 2 megs of expanded mem, WP51 version
>September-something 1991, the correct version of ScreenExtender (You
>HAVE to match S/E version to specific release of WP51).
>
>I have a new computer coming - a 486 with *gobs* of memory; maybe it'll
>work on that system -- but then I'm planning on laoding WP-Windows...
>so I'm not sure what to do.
>
>BobM

I have been running Screen Extender on a 386, 486 and SX laptop without
problems on any system, no out of memory messages or anything. The
amount of expanded memory you have is probalby not relavent but rather
how much actual DOS memory you have available. If you have a bunch of
TSR's and device drivers loaded you may not have enough memory
available. Are you running Dos 5.0 and have you loaded as
much stuff high as possible??
I also have WP-windows on my 486 and strongly prefer
running 5.1 with screen extender. Windows is just always too slow, no
matter what.


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	 Michael Benedik
	 Department of Biochemical and Biophysical Sciences
	 University of Houston
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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:17:10 EDT
From: <RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Isn't there a cursor-defining utility included with WP51??? Called Cursor.
com or somesuch. I used it last year to define a blocky cursor for my
notebook, but forget details. Been about a year or so ago now.
BobM, PSU-Harrisburg
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From:         GBAXTER@VM2.YORKU.CA
Subject:      Re: New feature wanted....

In order to see the tabs while typing, I sometimes change my screen window to
23 lines. The 24th line then becomes the barline which is visible in Reveal
Codes and contains the tab marks (tee-pees).

By adjusting the size of the windows, you will be able to find a comfortable
setting that will put these tab marks close to what you are typing, (i.e., a
12-line window moves the barline up to about half the screen size). Now, you
will not have to keep Reveal Codes ON in order to see the tabs.

HAVE A GOOD DAY!
Grace Baxter, Microcomputer Training Coordinator
Faculty of Arts, York University
N125 Ross Building      Phone Ext. 33309
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From:         Dining Services <DINING@KSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Onboard Parity Error

More info on my previous message:

The computer is a fairly new one.  I put another machine's backup on it
less than a month ago and all was great.  No errors, optimized, chkdsk
all fine (last month).

Anything particular I should check now?
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From:         Tony Wickersham <TWICK@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>
Subject:      Table of Contents location
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I wonder if the WPCORP-L gurus out there have opinions on the
following subject:  Where is the best place to put a WP-generated
Table of Contents?

   *  At the beginning of the document.  Many block-moves of memory
      would probably have to be performed: probably one for each
      line of the generated TOC.

   *  At the end of the document.  A complete search of the document
      would have to be performed just to find the [Def Mark: TOC].
      For large documents that have been partially buffered out to
      disk, this could take quite a while.

Just curious :-)  One of our users had a large document with a TOC.
She put the definition at the front of the document and it took
quite a while to generate (8 Mhz 286 PC, 99 pages, 162K).  I didn't
time the process, nor move the TOC to the document's end and re-
generate for comparison.  I just thought it was slow!

Discussion welcome.

Tony Wickersham
Computer Programmer/User Consultant             [ ] footage
American Heritage Center                   Your [*] mileage may vary!
University of Wyoming                           [ ] MIPS
twick@corral.uwyo.edu
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From: wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (David Lesher)
Subject: Fonts,  Facelift
Reply-To: wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher)
Organization: NRK Clinic for habitual NetNews abusers - Beltway Annex
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:38:17 GMT

Others said:
# I use Facelift on a regular basis and it works GREAT! 

I agree.

Recently, others have asked font questions. I recommend
FACELIFT. It's $60.00  from PC Connection. It makes, on the
fly, sizes from 2 to 500 point. If you want 11.375 point, just
ask. 

It's from Bitstream. To me, that means the fonts look better
than brand X. I wish the standard package had a Charter style,
but that is about the only shortcoming.

Job Bog Briggs say "Check it out"  :-}

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From: levin@world.std.com (Levin F Magruder)
Subject: Tabular columns
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:28:08 GMT

Recent discussion of messing around with tab sets inspires me to ask
for hints.  Below is a table something like what people at my office
sometimes need to make.  

                                              Some
                Redemption  Important        Other     
Issue date         Date        Rate           Rate       Value
__________      __________  _________        _____       _____

1992          July 1, 1992        5            4.9       2,002.00
1993       January 1, 1993        4 1/2        3           525.00
1994           May 1, 1994        3.2          2 1/2        60.00

(The lines of underscores are supposed to represent underlining one
line above where they show here - you know what I mean).

Sometimes, the people assigning the work want the underlines to
be exactly as long as the longest word in the centered column.  For
example, the underline in the second column should be as long as
"Redemption".  Fonts may change during the course of document production,
but normally we have a times roman or courier font.  I don't know
how to make the line longer except by inserting underlined spaces around
the bottom word, which doesn't work in examples like column 4 (where do
you put the space, before or after "Rate"), and I doubt would work
at all in a proportionally spaced font.

Columns like three, where they want things lining up like a decimal
tab that may or may not have decimals - all I can suggest is to change
the alignment character at the beginning of the line whenever necessary.
I've found most users think this is confusing, and I think it's a hassle.
Is there an easier way?

The overall strategy I tell people to use is to put in two different
tab settings, one for the column titles, a second for the body of 
the table.  Again, users object - too complicated.  What is the net's
combined wisdom on this?

I played around using tables for this once, but as I recall it was
a nuisance to get the cell height right - I may have just not
understood what cell height was - I think I told it to make cell
height .1667, thinking that would make spacing look like 1/6", and
it didn't work.  Also, can you do footnotes/endnotes in tables in
5.1 DOS?

Just a thought.  There's now a good port of EMACS for dos.  Maybe
when users whine about things being too complicated, they should
be given Emacs, nroff, and troff to get there silly documents out
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From:         Mark Cook - Hope-Geneva Bookstore <COOK@HOPE.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Looking for template

I also use a Northgate keyboard (and love it!), but had the same
problem with my template (and hated it!).  After trying other
templates, tape, mounting squares and knocking the template on
the floor umteen times my final solution was following:  First
cut the offical WP template off just below the words WordPerfect
which leaves a small section of template below the function
keys.  (I'm assuming you want to use the left keys since that's
what God intended -- and I too favor).  Next I cut a thin strip
of double-sided foam mounting tape to fit in the small recess to
the left of the f-keys.  This makes the top of the tape level
with the rest of k-board and allows you to press the template
firmly in place (where mine has stayed for a year and a half).
Finally, if you need the little reminders that you cut off the
template, find some other place on the keyboard to stick them.
Good luck!

                                        Mark Cook
                                        Hope College Bookstore
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From:         "Ms. Lucia Asturias - Getting fitter?" <LUCIA@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Wp to AppleMac

Anybody knows how to convert to AppleMac readable format from WP (either
DOS or Windows)?
Please e-mail me and I'll summarise to the list.
Thanks!

Ms. Lucia Asturias

WP Support/Office Information Service Unit
Computer Laboratory/General User Services
The University of Liverpool
England, UK

Phone: (051) 794-3749

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Subject: ScreenExtender (WAS:Re: Laptop/WP TSRs wanted)

I have a copy of screenExtender, but I quit using it. It IS great for
showing 8-column screen, actual underlines, bolds, etc. BUT: whenever
I tried to preview a document, I'd get an "out of mem..." message.

This was on a '286 with about 2 megs of expanded mem, WP51 version
September-something 1991, the correct version of ScreenExtender (You
HAVE to match S/E version to specific release of WP51).

I have a new computer coming - a 486 with *gobs* of memory; maybe it'll
work on that system -- but then I'm planning on laoding WP-Windows...
so I'm not sure what to do.

BobM
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