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From: UC545502@mizzou1.missouri.edu (Dale Hackemeyer)
Subject: PMDDE.EXE after SP...
Organization: University of Missouri
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 12:14:15 CST

Has anyone else had their PMDDE.EXE deleted by the service pack? I've
installed the SP twice now and both times the PMDDE program disappeared
from my hard drive. I searched the HD and only found PMDDE.DLL.
 
The first time I installed I put it over my GA version that had numerous
patches applied. The thing became so unstable I decided to install over
a "virgin" copy of the GA. Both times PMDDE.EXE disappeared. This doesn't
particularly bother me as I've never used the OS/2 - WINOS2 Data Update,
but I was wondering if anyone else had this problem.
 
OS/2 seems more stable now that I've reinstalled everything, but I've
only had about two hours to test it out. Has anyone else had to do this
to get it working correctly? Did it really help?
 
Thanks for any input!
 
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From: tnt@netcom.com (Terry Turner)
Subject: jerky mouse after service pack install (on ps/2).
Organization: Watch the Skies
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:21:55 GMT

after installing the service pack my mouse is extremely jerky unless i set
the tracking speed to a very slow setting. if i leave it at the high speed
setting it is next to impossible to get any work done with the mouse.
selecting items in list boxes is especially hard because just as you are
getting the pointer near the desired selection it jumps past. 

anyone notice this? it is very annoying.
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From: gonorth@cs.montana.edu (Spicher)
Subject: Converting 5.25 OS2 to 3.25 ?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 07:14:11 GMT


I bought OS2 a while back before I decided that I need to change my drives
around and make my 3.50x1.44M A: and the 5.25 1.2M B:.  Can I just get a pile
of 3.50x1.44M disks and copy over, or do I have to contact IBM and buy the 
3.50 set? (my origionals are 5.25's).

                                         Daron Spicher

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From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Nifty Prompts and sorting
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:26:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.152137.21902@u.washington.edu> mhuth@byron.u.washington.edu (Mark Huth) writes:
>Would someone be kind enough to send me a nifty prompt or two for my full
>screen os/2 sessions.  I've lost the prompt line I was using!  (Actually,
>I don't really need your prompts...just the line which describes how
>you got the prompt!)
>On another matter, I prefer to have my directories sorted, I know that 
>I can do so in os/2, but how?  

I believe both questions are answered in the FAQ List.

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From: wkristle@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Bill Kristler)
Subject: disk image problems
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:45:37 GMT

I've a problem(big suprise) with running dos from a disk image file.
I can't seam to write to my hard drive. I've get a general failure writing 
device C. Any ideas? I might have set something up wrong on the disk that
I did the image of. I can do a directory of the disk with no problem.
-Bill
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From: jurlwin@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Jeff Urlwin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Unix Like File Name Completion...
Date: 12 Nov 92 01:39:17 GMT
Organization: University of Maine, Department of Computer Science

In article <BxKGwH.Bpw@ccu.umanitoba.ca> umnoor@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Nasir Ahmed Noor) writes:
>
>Does any one know if such a utility exists or if someone has plans to work
>on one [if its possible--at all] to allow file name completion as its done
>in Unix [ESC key]?

There is a shareware command shell for OS/2 called 4OS2, which has filename
completion by using the TAB key.  The people at JP Software have had 4DOS,
their (IMHO) outstanding DOS shell out for years and brought their expertise
over to OS/2.  There may be an un-registered version available on the 
internet somewhere, I would assume ftp-os2.

jeff


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From: me90plb@brunel.ac.uk (Paul L Barnfather)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Wierd error message (1652 " ")
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:10:48 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, Uxbridge, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Story: I was messing around with the .INI files to try and make them smaller
OS2SYS.INI was 1.5MB...
I used SHOWINI to copy the INI files. I then added CALL=CMD.EXE to the end of
CONFIG.SYS and shut down <<-- I think this is the cause of the problem.

when CME.EXE appeared, I copied the 'new' INI files over the old ones, and
renamed the old ones as backups.

Then I exited from CMD.EXE, PM desktop appears (without any icons !) and the
following message box:

1652 " "	<<-- title of message box !!

Message
SHLERR_MESSAGE_NOT_FOUND
not found

OK   Cancel   Help


Pressing help does nothing
Pressing OK or Cancel causes a CMD.EXE window to appear, and the message box
pops up again. If I press OK, I get another CMD.EXE, and so on.

I can start PM apps from the command line, so presumable PMSHELL.EXE is working.

I eventually got my desktop back using WPSBKUP (fortunately !).

What I want to know is:
What does this error message mean ?
What caused it ?
Will it happen again if I use the above method to change INI files ?
If so, how to I keep my INI files small ? I *hate* booting from floppies !

Paul
From: joiner@myria.cs.umn.edu (Jay K. Joiner)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: CD Beta Installation
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:36:25 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <5NOV199209232343@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> smbrush@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Andy Brush @Sverdrup) writes:

>I tried to install the OS/2 2.X beta from CD-ROM last night, with no luck.
>On the second disk, "Disk One", after a lengthy wait looking at the 
>"Loading, Please Wait" message, the system got stuck in what seemed to be a 
>loop:  The Diskette would be accessed, the CD activity light would blink 
>for a second or two, the message "CD-ROM not found, installation aborted" 
>would flash on my screen, and the process would repeat.  I let this 
>continue for 20 or 30 cycles before resetting the system.

I have the same behavior with my system.  What works for me is to Ctrl-Alt-Del
at this point and start over with the Installation disk followed by disk 1.
For me, it always works after the second try.  I also have to do this after
each cold start.  The boot will stop saying "No SCSI devices found...", but
will find the CD after Ctrl-Alt-Del.

>I have a Gateway 386/25, Micronics, Phoenix BIOS, IDE drives, 8 Mb RAM on 
>motherboard... a plain vanilla system with no wierd adapters or features.  
>The CD-ROM is the IBM discount package from CD Technology, which is a 
>Toshiba drive and a FD-850-MEX SCSI adapter.  CD access works perfectly 
>under the GA OS, which is presently installed.

I also have the CD Technology drive and card.  

>I used the installation program to set up the CONFIG.SYS in the boot 
>diskette with FD8XX.ADD, and tried both the CDROM.SYS driver and the 
>CDROM_G.SYS driver, with the same results.  I tried using SCSI address 0 
>and 2 with each combination of drivers.

I'm using the FD850IBM.ADD driver with mine and CDROM.SYS.  I'm using 
SCSI address 3.

>If anyone has installed the beta from CD-ROM, particularly using equipment 
>similar to mine, I'd appreciate a note describing how you did it.  Thanks 
>in advance.

I'm confident this technique will work for you.  Note, during the install
process, you'll have to follow the tips about multiple BASEDEV statements
in CONFIG.SYS in the instructions.  If you're using HPFS, then I recommend
making the single boot disk as soon as possible to simplify these 
modifications.  Don't hesitate to email me.  I've re-installed from the
DAP CD at least 10 times now trying things out, and I think I understand
all the nuances by now.
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Windows don't remember positions
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:17:02 GMT

In article <16885@umd5.umd.edu> adhir@cygnus.umd.edu (Alok Dhir) writes:
>Why is it that so few of the windows in the WPS remember their size/positions?
>This is irking me.  Every time I start the VIEWer or use HELP in an OS/2
>session, the stupid help windows take up my entire 1024x768 desktop.  This
>is really annoying and obnoxious of these programs to do so.  I have tried 
>holding shift while I resize the windows, but it still doesn't remember.
>Is there a way?

In short, no.  The program must be coded to remember its window
position.  Most do -- it is bad form not to.  However, if I had a dime
for every programmer who practiced bad form...

>BTW - my OS2SYS.INI file had grown to 2.5 megs long, I ran cpyini on it
>and the new one was 150k long.  I rebooted with the disks and replaced the
>2.5 megger with the 150k-er and everything works perfectly.  I thought some
>of you would benefit from this little tidbit.  I wonder why the heck OS/2
>doesn't manage the INI file itself??  Why should we need cpyini at all?

Much like WIN.INI, OS2SYS.INI can grow as applications add
information.  A few applications (e.g. Describe) are polite enough to
have "UnInstall" routines which will remove this extraneous
information when you delete the application.  However, if you like to
try a lot of new software, this file will grow and grow.  The CopyINI
utility presumably trims OS2SYS.INI back down to the bare, system
essentials.

The solution is again to get better programmers who will be kind
enough to keep the information saved in the INI files to a minimum,
and who will provide an uninstall feature.  Of course, programmers
like to think that everything they write is useful ("You mean you want
to uninstall MY application?"), so don't hold your breath.  (The
same problem applies to Windows, as I mention, with WIN.INI.  In that
particular case WIN.INI is plain text, so you can use a text editor to
trim it.  That can be a mixed blessing, since, if you don't know what
you are doing, you can trash things quite easily.  It is a little more
difficult with OS/2's INI files.)

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From: jot@teak09.hemlock (Otto Tennant)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: OS/2, DR DOS 6.0, and an old HardCard 40
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:29:47 GMT
Distribution: comp.os.os2.misc
Organization: /home/teak3/jot/.organization

(I think my previous post fell on the floor.)

I am running OS/2 on a Gateway 2000 386/33, with a 200MB disk entirely
HPFS.  Primarily to see if WordStar for Windows would work in a pure
DOS/Windows environment (it doesn't under OS2WIN, at least not very
reliably), I decided to mostly backup the disk, install DR DOS 6.0,
reserving a partition for HPFS, and re-install OS/2 on top of it.

Since I have a Plus HardCard 40 gathering dust, I decided to plug it
in after backing up most of the main disk.  It was already being used
as a secondary disk in its original home.

When I powered back up, I was not overly surprised to discover that
the system would not boot.  It merely confirmed that I had to proceed
with my original plan.  The DR DOS installation went smoothly, and
obviously to the HardCard as the C drive.  (I should have been
surprised by this, but I wasn't paying attention.)

Eventually, the DR DOS installation program suggested that it wanted
to reboot my computer, which suggestion I confirmed.  I was astonished
to see OS/2 boot itself up unscathed.  It does not seem to detect the
presence of the HardCard at all.

So DR DOS sees the HardCard and not the disk supplied with the Gateway
2000.  OS/2 sees the Gateway disk and not the HardCard.  This appears
to be consistent behaviour, not just which disk randomly raises its
hand first.  (I installed DR DOS a second time just to check.)

I would obviously like advice on how to use the HardCard (or even
advice to the effect of "DON'T *DO* THAT!").  But I would more like an
explanation of why one operating sees one disk while the other sees
the other.

Thanks.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: lmp8913@venus.tamu.edu (PRESTON, LISA M)
Subject: Re: Window Washer
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:17:00 GMT

In article <BxGK7t.AoK@scd.hp.com>, kitchin@avo.hp.com (Bruce Kitchin) writes...
->All inclusive directory on hobbes??
-> 
->Have you looked at 00Index in directory pub/os2.  I usually download it
->and then with a local editor search for what I'm looking for.  I find
->this approach much more satisfactory than any online search scheme
->I've encountered.  Since they already do it, it doesn't ask for more
->of the probably overworked sysop(s) of hobbes.
-

Good strategy, but back to the point; Where can Window Washer be found? 

LISA
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: OS/2's Interrupt Mapping
Keywords: IRQ, Interrupt
Date: 7 Nov 92 16:10:53 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1992Nov6.180326.10300@u.washington.edu> mts@hardy.u.washington.edu (Sean Milligan) writes:

>	I read somewhere that OS/2 calls the interrupt addresses by different
>numbers.  (Ex. 9 is IRQ2, I think).  I'm trying to get all my boards to work
>and was wondering if anyone knows if this is true and if so would they please
>post the various addresses for OS/2 corresponding to the "Real world"
>settings.

All AT class and better machines map IRQ2 to IRQ9.  This is because
the original PC only had 1 interrupt controller.  When the ISA bus
came out, they cascaded a second interrupt controller off of the first
one, hanging it off the IRQ2 line.  Then in order for IRQ2 to function
for those cards that expected it, they made IRQ9 map to IRQ2.

In other words, this is a hardware thing and not an OS/2 thing.

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From: h198@hosp.med.umich.edu  (Gene Mangum)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: BUG: Windowing DOS.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992  15:26 EDT
Organization: Univ of Michigan Hospitals
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: condor.hosp.med.umich.edu
X-Newsreader: FTPNuz (DOS) v1.0

In Article <1992Nov13.145705.6350@gw.wmich.edu> "x90wardell@gw.wmich.edu" says:
> 	S
> 
> 	Reproducable Bug in OS/2, post service pack:
> 
> 	Click on a DOS program.  Hit Alt-Home to m ake it a  window.
> Make it full screen again.  Now Hit At-Esc to leave it.  Return to it.
> You can no longer make it into a window.  Any ideas?
> 
  This has been documented by IBM, and is referred to as the "sticky Alt key"
  problem.   The resolution is to quickly press and release the *LEFT* Alt
  key.   I ass-u-me a fix will be forthcoming.
  IBM put a document on IBMLink which describes several bugs in the SP, and
  fixes or workarounds where they exist.   I posted a message there asking
  for permission to distribute the doc here, but haven't heard back, but
  someone uploaded it to ftp-os2.nmsu.edu anyway...

Gene Mangum
Univ of Michigan Hospitals
From: olsont@stein.u.washington.edu (Todd Olson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Genoa 6400 drivers?
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:38:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov13.003858.8906
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Does anyone know if there are any graphics drivers
that will work with a genoa 6400 card in 800x600 16/256
color mode or 640x480 256 color mode?
thanks
Todd Olson
olsont@stein.u.washington.edu
From: scdorcy@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (JAMES DORCEY)
Subject: Re: Service Pak readme
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date:  5 Nov 1992 09:17 EST  

In article <1992Nov5.054218.1090@ncsu.edu>, stephen@ncsu.edu writes...
> 
>Obviously, you did not read the whole thing.  The next sentence clearly states
>that the WELCOME folder is only on preinstalled systems, if you have installed
>it yourself, you must type dspinstl from the OS/2 command prompt.  If people
>don't read it themselves, maybe I'll just post that part of the README file...

This is the second time that I have read that the README file for the 
installed CSD states to run DSPINSTL from the OS/2 prompt, which ain't what 
my README says (mine says to run selective install once you get past the 
part about the WELCOME folder).  Are there two different variants of the 
README file running around (mine is from the 5-1/4" Service Pack/CSD)?

The selective install method worked fine for me (640x480x256 on a Diamond 
SpeedStar).

JD
From: lance@lancea.actrix.gen.nz (Lance Andrewes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: SVGA install (was Re: Service Pak readme)
Distribution: world
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 18:51:57 GMT
Organization: none
Keywords: Tseng SVGA CSD

In article <1992Nov5.054218.1090@ncsu.edu> stephen@ncsu.edu writes:
>[With regard to installation of SVGA drivers]
>Obviously, you did not read the whole thing.  The next sentence
>clearly states that the WELCOME folder is only on preinstalled
>systems, if you have installed it yourself, you must type
>dspinstl from the OS/2 command prompt.  If people don't read it
>themselves, maybe I'll just post that part of the README file...

That's not what my README says.  It says "To install the SVGA drivers
on other computers, select the OS/2 System folder, select the System
Setup folder, select the System folder, and then select the
Selective Install object".

I can fully understand confusion over this.  I was confused too :-)
The messages in this group had alerted me that I should use
Selective Install.  However, I wasn't prepared to be asked for
Disk 6 of my original OS/2 pack.  A search of messages confirmed
that this was correct, but each time it prompted for another
disc, I was still worried I was overwritting stuff that had just
been updated.

It worked, and I'm running the 800x600x256 drivers on my Swan
Tseng 4000 card.  After some months of stability, I've had two
trap 000D crashes :-(  Both when trying to run a combination
of Win3 apps seamless and DOS or OS/2 apps.  No crashes today,
touch wood ...
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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: Steve.Withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Subject: OsS/2 (agiain and again....:-))
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:37:26 GMT


I should have known better......
 
One of my co-workers has been admiring my OS/2-bearing 486 for a few weeks now
and yesterday he asked me to install it on his 386sx/25.....
 
I said "yes"....
 
With that simple word began the OS/2 install from Hell.
 
I got to work at 7am, thinking "no problem, all over by 8:30." It seemed
simple enough. He ran most apps from our LAN. With only 49 "real" megs to play
with, there wasn't much room left after MS-DOS5, Windows 3.1, Qemm 6.02,
Norton Utilities, and Superbase4.
 
I'm getting pretty good at "skinny" installs, so I thought "OK a 33meg OS/2
partition and a 16meg data partition". 
 
BTW, I added 4megs of RAM to bring him up to 8.
 
Well.....lets just say that for the past two days he has had nothing but
problems. Seems my install was a bit too skinny. When he tried to print from
Word for Windows, the combined print spooling and swap file expanding killed
him every time......33megs is ok if you use OS/2 apps, BTW. That Microsoft
stuff eats your resources alive......
 
After a couple of days of crippled functionality, I re-formatted (38megs and
11megs). Better! But I played with the system before applying the CSD and
forgot about the GA expanding swappper.dat file....*BOOM*...down she went in a
screaming heap.....just when I thought I might go home...(11PM)
 
Ok....can't leave it like that......lets put the CSD on.
 
Uh oh....Trap000D in diskette 8 of the CSD....which can't be interrupted
(I proved it...).
 
Try a re-boot....
 
"no kernel...please insert diskette".
 
Hmmm....OK...lets make the whole damn disk the OS/2 partition and he can run
*all* his apps from the LAN!
 
So I delete the partitions and insert the Installation Diskette to start from
scratch. Two red-screen format failures later........
 
Well I know the answer to that. I get out the MS-DOS diskettes and go through
the first 1/3 of the install (the disk formatting part...)
 
Now its 01:36 am NZDT and I have just put diskette 15 of the GA into the
floppy drive. Only the CSD, Novell requester, Excel and W4Win to go and I can
go home!
 
Maybe I won't bother........:-) 
 
Steve





 

 

 
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Subject: After Dark changes palettes
From: lance@lancea.actrix.gen.nz (Lance Andrewes)
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 18:38:48 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: none
Keywords: After Dark palette


One of the nice things about seamless drivers is that you can
run After Dark for Windows, and have it blank your desktop.
I did this for a while when I first installed OS/2 2.0, but
when it activated it upset the palette in whatever session
I was working (DOS and OS/2 full-screen sessions).  I
reported this as a bug, but had no reply.

Anyhow, it's still a problem with the SP and 800x600x256
Tseng 4000 drivers.  What I believe is happening is that
AfterDark accesses the hardware directly, one of the
good/bad things (depending on your point of view) that OS/2
allows.  Would I be correct in assuming there's no way out?

I have found a partial solution - just don't run any of the
modules that change the palette.
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