From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: A few things in Re: The big flaw in Clinton's Vietnam scenario
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 22:40:42 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:

> [older stuff deleted...]

> |Oh, I don't think so.  Talk about the perfect sop to Mario's ego.  Clinton
> |didn't say he would appoint Mario, just that he'd make a good justice.  It's
> |hard for that asshole in Albany to keep mouthing off about Clinton after suc
> |nice things have been said about him. That's one less problem behind Clinton
> |back.  Now, if someone could just shut up Charlie Wrangel...
>
> Agreed about the bit about Mario's ego. But you're right: Clinton said he'd
> make a good justice. That should indicate to you what Clinton is looking for
> with regards to people he would consider to be on the Supreme Court. (Humor:
> if Marchbishop Cuomo decides cases as quickly as he decides to run for the
> Presidency, we'll have quite a swift judicial system.)

hehehe...this is quite true about Mario.  However, I don't think it's all that
clear an indicator of what Clinton will do with the Court.  For example, His
Highness is vehemently anti-death penalty, while Clinton is pro-death penalty,
to the extent of signing death warrants.  Mario would be the guy they'll go
running to for temporary stays left and right.  I can't imagine that Clinton
wants that to happen.

>
> |>:>2. He's for raising taxes.  Minority view, if you ask the GOP.
> |>:    Obviously not, looking at the polls.  Popular perception is that he's
> |>:for raising taxes among the upper 2% who aren't paying enough now.
> |>       Sorry. I don't like this "class envy" politics that Clinton is
> |> using to "buy" votes from middle-class Americans. I am not a member of
> |> this upper 2%, but I sure want to get there! As I've said, if you soak
> |> the rich, you drown the poor.
> |Hmmm...and the Republicans don't play on class differences?  Bush tries to
> |'buy' votes from the middle class with all of this 'family values'
> |fearmongering.  One is no better than the other.
> But the family values debate isn't pitting the upper class against the
> other, and the economic plans of the candidates are going to take precedence
> over any "family values remedial course" when the appropriate man gets into
> the White House. When you hear Republicans criticize the economic plan,
> Clinton and Gore say they're only going to tax the wealthiest 2%. They used
> to have a middle-class tax cut in their program, but they scrapped that
> idea after the end of the primaries.
>
> I only point this out because we've heard a lot in the mainstream media about
> how Republicans always use "divisive" politics. I have not heard any critique
> about Democrats using similar strategies. I don't intend to pardon the
> Republicans for anything, but I want to say that the Democrats are doing
> the same things and getting away with it without any critique.
>

Well, in many ways, it's pitting the haves against the have nots.  How many
middle/lower class families can now afford to have the wife stay home and raise
the kids?  Most single moms aren't in the upper class, either.  This 'Ozzie and
Harriet' family that Bush/Quayl harp on is definitely a divisive tactic based
on both racial and economic grounds.

Of course, you're correct about the economy.  it's going to boil down to who
the voters are willing to take a chance on when it comes to fixing things.

As to the Democrats 'getting away' with divisive politics, this can be
explained in one of two ways:  either the media is avoiding mention of it, or
their tax plan is not as divisive as Republicans claim.  It's probably a
mixture of both.  I haven't seen much on CNN criticizing the Democratic tax
plan, and it's agreed that their coverage is the most objective so far.  Maybe
taxing the wealthy isn't as unpopular an idea as the GOP would have us believe.




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