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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,ab.general
Subject: Attention!! Southern Alberta SciFi Fans
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 06:29:29 MDT
Distribution: canada
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #2, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Interested in a club?  Want to be a member of a large growing SciFi Club in
Alberta.

Come and join the Lords of Space and Time Club, based in Edmonton.

For furthur information, please e-mail to this address.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
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From: wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: WTVS Detroit....whassup?
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 19:29:49 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Am I the only WTVS viewer (in Canada or Detroit for that matter) that is 
getting a little annoyed with WTVS's bizzare jumping around of stories in 
 the last while? WTVS showed "the Mind Robber" two saturdays ago, then 
proceeded to show "The Silurians" last week. This makes building a 
collection from the station impossible, which is a shame since the image 
quality is quite good. Anyone know why WTVS is showing Doctor Who in such 
a haphazard manner?

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From: istn100@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: HELP PLEASE!
Organization: Purdue University, Indianapolis
Date: 29 Sep 92 14:01:47 -0500

In article <1992Sep24.180344.1@indyvax.iupui.edu>, istn100@indyvax.iupui.edu writes:
> Hi everyone!  I've got a quick question for anyone living in England.  A friend
> of mine is coming over from London in a few weeks, for a flying visit.  
> Obviously, I will not let this opportunity pass me by, but will have him
> bring a few essentials of life over with him, specifically Dr. Who novels.
> Now, I've got all four of the Timewyrm books and (FINALLY) all three of the
> Cat's Cradle novels.  What's come out lately that I should ask my friend to
> bring for me??  He lives near a Dillons, and I might even be able to
> talk him into a visit to Forbidden Planet (drool, sigh).  So, any 
> suggestions???  Any non-Dr.-Who stuff that I might want him to lug over?

Come on, people!  I need help here!  I posted this last week and haven't
had any replies at all!  My frieds will be here in less than a month, and
I need to know what they should bring over!!!  So - what's new in Who-dom
in England since Cat's Cradle?????!!!!!  Oh, please e-mail me about this,
rather than posting, since I don't read this every day.  My address is:
ISTN100@indyvax.iupui.edu

Thanks!

Ellen - the Crime Doctor

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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: I take that post about as far as I could have thrown it! :)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:58:23 GMT

In article <778bwwcp5@tardis.cojones.com> 1-1@tardis.cojones.com (Keeper Of The Matrix) writes:
>
> Regarding Message : Re: UK news: NEW DR. WHO EPISODES!!!
> Written By        : bn823#cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Mullaney) #26 @5
>
>     . . . So I don't think that the BBC would even consiter dropping Doctor
>Who . . . Personally, I think that the BBC is waiting for their Royal Charter
>to be renued . . . And then they will make their final decision . . . What do
>you guy's think?
>
>                          -Keeper Of The Matrix-
>
>  The Matrix: Doctor Who BBS  (209) 571-0347  Modesto, Ca  TARDISNet 1@1 

Would it be legally possible for the charter to be amended come 1995 to 
include mandatory seasons of "Doctor Who?"  (I don't mean realistically possiblQwrite
From: steven.k.manfred@UWRF.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Theft from Gallifrey
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:34:02 GMT

And another thing Marc C,


there is a BIG whopping difference between the kind of theft that ou
say so easily takes place in "Trial of a time Lord" and the type of
theft we're told about in "Mawdryn Undead."

The Sleepers from Andromeda in "Trial" were stealing information from
the Matrix.  The Matrix is by definition the biggest computer net
in the Universe.  It has scanning beams stretching all across space
and as far forward in time as "Frontios."  It is this computer network
that the Sleepers broke into and starting taking files from.

This is quite different from theft of an actual physical device that
we see in "Mawdryn Undead."

Hardware vs. Software.  
the only thievery in "Trial" is software.
Hardware theft from Gallifrey is next to impossible due to Gallifrey's
extensive defensive systems.  The only way onto and off of Gallifrey
is by TARDIS, and even then the Matrix can detect that ("Arc of Infinity"
for reference there) and guards can be despatched to impound the machine
as they are in "Deadly Assassin" and "Invasion of Time."

the regenerator was hardware, it came from Gallifrey originally as a 
physical real device, and it was stolen from Gallifrey.  the ONLY way
this could have been achieved is either by someone on Gallifrey or by
one hell of a crafty Time Lord with a "cloaked" TARDIS, a device we
have never seen.

Steve/Iain

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From: swbaker@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Texas Bob or Eddie Froman depending on the moon)
Subject: Re: WTVS Detroit....whassup?
Summary: ... inside the WTVS programming director's mindset...
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 13:30:58 GMT

In article <eokqRB2w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey) writes:

>Am I the only WTVS viewer (in Canada or Detroit for that matter) that is 
>getting a little annoyed with WTVS's bizzare jumping around of stories in 
> the last while? WTVS showed "the Mind Robber" two saturdays ago, then 
>proceeded to show "The Silurians" last week. This makes building a 
>collection from the station impossible, which is a shame since the image 
>quality is quite good. Anyone know why WTVS is showing Doctor Who in such 
>a haphazard manner?

'Allo, I too watch WTVS Ch. 56...

Actually, I'm not sure what they're thinking now, but they HAVE had a
great concept in the recent past (spring/summer '92):

1. They showed all the (available) Dalek stories, including _The Daleks_
	all the way up to _Rememberance..._

2. Then, they showed all the (available) Cybermen stories, etc...

(or was it the Cybermen first, and THEN the Daleks?  Oh well...)

3. Then, they showed all the (available) first/last stories combo; ie,
	the first story with Doctor #x, then the last story with that Dr.,
	then the first story with the next Dr., etc... ex'ls:

	War Games --> Spearhead from Space  (Troughton --> Pertwee)
	Planet of Spiders --> Robot         (Pertwee --> T.Baker)
        Logopolis --> Castrovalva           (T.Baker --> Davison)
        Caves of Androzani --> Twin Dilemma (Davison --> C.Baker)
        etc...

4. Next up was Pledge Drive stuff, so of course they had to show some
	awesome Dr.Who, incl. Tomb of the Cybermen, Resistance is Useless
	(fantastic 30-min documentary), The Rescue, and The Web Planet...

5. And that takes us up to the present, where they're in some type of limbo;
	However, here's the break-down of Dr.Who for October from the WTVS
	Programme Guide "Signal 56":

	Sat  4 October - Carnival of Monsters (Pertwee, season 10)
	Sat 10 October - Planet of Evil (T.Baker, season 13)
	Sat 17 October - Pyramids of Mars (T.Baker, season 13)
	Sat 24 October - Brain of Morbius (T.Baker, season 13)
	Sat 30 October - Seeds of Doom (T.Baker, season 13)

If they're settling on Dr. #4 for a while, why do they skip some of the
season 13 stories (ie, Terror of the Zygons and Android Invasion)?
I dunno; at least we still have Dr.Who on PBS, a lot of cities have
NO Dr.Who at all!

Steve
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Top Ten List????
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 18:12:49 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.015631.5561@gw.wmich.edu> 92anderson@gw.wmich.edu writes:
>Could WHO ever it was that posted the top ten list regarding the Doctor's
>	companions please repost it?  I wanted to show it to my own
>	female companion, but failed to before it was removed.
>			Thank-you.  JC Anderson.
>

It's on the way.

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From: mrmuon@next08csc.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Re: New Adventures as canon?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:08:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.011528.22563@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>  
ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:

> However, some recent and upcoming video releases are blurring the  
continuity
> line a little....
> 
> Should we consider "Shada" as canon or shouldn't we?
> Should we consider the additional bits to "The Curse of Fenric" as  
canon?

Based on your list of them, I cannot image anything ever depending on the  
extra bits of "Fenric"; I'd take them as canon though. In "the Terrestrial  
Index" JM L'Officier (sp?) refers to the lost (CBaker) season stories as  
'the only other exception besides "Shada" to the rule of only BBC produced  
stories being considered canon.' Assuming he knows what he's talking  
about, this means that "Shada" is canon. 
I'm not sure exactly which lost season stories are included. In addition  
to the published ones ("the Nightmare Fair", "Mission to Magnus", and "the  
Ultimate Evil") he lists "Penecasata" and says "story unavailiable". I  
don't know (but I'm sure someone else does) if "Penacasata" was completed  
enough to be used as canon. I assume that the other 2 stories were not.
(Unfortunately?) "K9 and Company" is clearly canon, in light of "the 5  
Doctors"
Personally I feel that "TimeWyrm: Revelation" is too incredibly cool for  
"TimeWyrm" to be anything but canon. On the other hand there are many  
things about "Cat's Cradle: Witch Mark" that I would sooner forget.
I agree with JML about "Slipback" and "Birth of a Renagade" being non  
canon and I would run screaming if a future story was continuity dependent  
on "the Pescatons". Well maybe I'd just bang my head against something.  
Ok, really I might be too pleased about seeing new Who to care.?
                   - Eli
"Shh! There's a ringing in my head. Listen!" - Dr.4
From: 00bwanderson@bsu-ucs.uucp
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Survival . . .
Date: 6 Oct 92 07:05:48 GMT

In article <778cwwcp5@tardis.cojones.com>, 1-1@tardis.cojones.com (Keeper Of The Matrix) writes:
> 
>  Regarding Message : Re: I still have not seen Survival
>  Written By        : jseaver#obsidian.WPI.EDU (Jason John Seaver) #33 @5
> 
>> No, you don't.

Oh, pipe down, you.

>      
>      . . . I just watched my tape of 'Survival' and I thought it was a very
> good episode <one of the better McCoy episodes> . . .
> 
>                           -Keeper Of The Matrix-

Quite so.  "C'mon Ace, we've got work to do!"

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From: hannon@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Scott Hannon; PHYS (GRAD))
Subject: Re: Where in the World is Doctor Who?
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:38:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.173849.26198@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> jwagner@gmuvax2.gmu.edu
(James C Wagner Jr) writes:

>>>True or False:  "Doctor Who" stories have taken place on each of Earth's
>>>	seven modern-day continents (Asia, Europe, North America, South
>>>	America, Africa, Australia, and Antarctica).

>In the VERY FIRST SEASON, the doctor vistis the Aztecs..
>now (If I have my geography straight) didn't the Aztec civilization
>stretch down into central america? Is that (central America) counted
>as South America???? (i.e. the part south of Mexico) 

I fairly sure sure Central America is part of North America (ie NA ends
and SA begins at the Panama/Columbia border]. Thus _The Aztecs_ can
not be counted as South America at all. And since only the Nazis in
_Silver Nemesis_ appear in SA, that one might not "count" either,
depending on the counting criteria.

Scott.
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From: cb338@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael A. Woo-Ming)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Pertwee's Autobiography
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:20:25 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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Does anybody know where I can pick up Jon Pertwee's book
"Moon Boots and Dinner Suits"?  And if anybody has read it,
I'd like to hear your opinions about it.  Personal e-mail
is fine.

Thanks, Mike
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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: The Guide to Remembering the 3 R's: was RE: Remembrance of the Daleks
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 15:45:27 GMT

In article <1a1n1kINNo9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White) writes:
>
>In a previous article, jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...) says:
>
>>
>>Yes, in the TV version of "Remembrance" they misspelled "Foreman" as "Forman"
>>on the gates.  Just another completely useless piece of trivia.
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>Are you sure it was "Remeberance"? I thought it was "Revelation" that
>had the mispelling of Foreman, though I admit it's been some time 
>since I've watched either story so I'm not sure. Looks like I'll have
>to haul out the tapes & double check my facts.


No, it was "Remembrance."

This points out a problem I see a lot of fans seem to have, i.e. getting
the 3 R's confused...Resurrection, Revelation, and Remembrance of the Daleks.

Here's how you can tell:

"Resurrection of the Daleks"  Peter Davison as the Doctor, in his third
	season.  Way to Remember: This is the story where Davros, after
	a long sleep in a cryogenic tomb, is awoken (resurrected).
	He then has plans to do much the same for his Daleks which have
	been thoroughly routed by the Movellan virus.  

"Revelation of the Daleks"  Colin Baker as the Doctor, at the end of his
	first full season.  Way to Remember:  The book of Revelation in
	the Bible deals with Judgement Day when everyone judged worthy
	is resurrected and given immortality by Jesus Christ.
	This story deals with Davros judging the sleeping people in 
	cryogenic suspension, picking the most intelligent and ambitious
	ones, and then changing them into Daleks, and he says by doing
	so he has given them immortality.  
	(The idea there being that perhaps Dalek mutants, so long as they
	remain plugged into their shells, do not age and can perhaps live
	for aeons.)

"Remembrance of the Daleks"  Sylvester McCoy as the Doctor, at the start
	of the 25th Anniversary season (Sylvester's 2nd).
	Way to Remember:  Remembrance is a term used at funerals, and
	in this story we spend a lot of time in cemeteries, and in the
	end, the Doctor destroys all the Daleks, pronouncing over the
	ashes of the Dalek Supreme:  "Ashes to ashes, dust to dust."
	Another way to remember is that this was at the start of the
	anniversary season, and is why we return to the scene of An Unearthly
	Child."
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: About as useless a bit of trivia as you can imagine.
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:39:23 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <9209291256.AA00324@deepthought.cs.utexas.edu> STDN%MARIST.bitnet@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu (Dan Newcombe) writes:
>>3) In the same story, Douglas Adams slipped in an in-joke to The
>>Hitch-hiker's Guide to the Galaxy (look at the author of the book that
>>the Doctor is reading while trapped under the beam).

>Uh, who would that be?   (The author of the book)
>It'll be a while before the local station gets back to that one and
>I don't have it on tape.

Why, it's everyone's favorite popular spirituality author, Oolon Colluphid,
author of "Where God Went Wrong", "More Of God's Greatest Mistakes", and
"Just Who Is This God Person, Anyway?"  And the fourth book in the trilogy,
"Well, That About Wraps It Up For God".

In Destiny of the Daleks, I think the Doctor is reading another Colluphid
best-seller, "A Brief History Of The Universe" or something like that.
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From: chips@eskimo.celestial.com (:crp:)
Subject: HELP for novice
Organization: >>> Eskimo North (206)-FOR-EVER <<<
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:32:10 GMT

I started watching DR WHO on channel 15 in Tukwila 3 weeks ago. I had a very 
small knowledge of the basic premise from an awful movie with David Nivens
about 25 years ago. Anyway, the Dr is being by Tom Baker and he is with
Harry and Sally.

I thought that they were time travellers and that Harry ad Sally were stuck
with the Dr but they just showed "Terror of the Zygons" and am now totally
confused. Dr is not human so why is he under the Brigadier's command , how
did harry and sally end up with him, what is the army unit a unit of, etc.
etc. etc.

Would someone please send me a primer on DrWho, especially the Tom Baker era?
Thanks.

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From: wfrey@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Warren Frey)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: CLARIFICATION ON COLOURIZ
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 19:18:17 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee) writes:
- Jon Pertwee was shown in both colour and b&w.  Since them some of the colour
- prints have disappeared.  Now the Beeb is deciding to colourize everything
- PErtwee as much as possible.
- 
- FTR, Pertwee is the only Doctor to be done in 405-line b&w and 625 PAL-I
- colour.
- 
- Hope this clarifies somethings.
- 
Wrongo, Dave! The BBC is ONLY colorizing those stories that they have 
colour copies of (be they of low quality or not). There is no colour copy 
of Mind of Evil and various other episodes, and so the BBC is not going 
to touch those episodes with a 10 foot Quantel. Likewise, they aren't 
going to fool around with the remaining Troughton and Hartnell episodes, 
since they were B%W to begin with. 

Geez, Dave, you're the one that makes Dr. Who your life and soul, and yet 
you still get everything wrong.....

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From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu (David Steinberg)
Subject: Sci-Fi channel -Don't Give Up
Organization: NMSU Computer Science
Distribution: rec.arts.drwho
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 19:55:58 GMT

Hey, I was looking at my cable bill & noticed a phone number to call.
So I called them up and asked them if there were any plans to carry
the SF channel.  They said that they were collecting names from people
who called, and if enough called they'd delete a channel, and carry
that instead.  In other words: everyone, GET UP AND CALL YOUR CABLE
COMPANY (esp. if you live in Las Cruces, NM).  If it works for Las
Cruces, it might work for your neck of the woods.  Next month this
time I hope to be watching the Doctor :@)
-David "ZZYZX" Steinberg
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From: mrmuon@next05cville.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Re: DR. WHO. COMPANION POLL ends Sept. 30, 1992
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:22:09 GMT

The DW 20th aniversary magazine has a companion A-Z which includes all the  
incontravertable companions + the Brigadier, Katarina, Sara Kingdom, and  
Kamelion. The Brigadier is called an honorary companion. The others are  
included (I assume) by the criterion that they traveled with the Doctor,  
in the TARDIS between stories. Sara did this in the sense that she was on  
the TARDIS through the Christmas interlude in the middle of "Masterplan".
From: otten@quark.umd.edu (Neil Ottenstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Cyberaudio Cassettes
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:43:09 GMT

I was looking through the Friends of Dr. Who catalog and noticed the
Cyberaudio cassettes narrated by David Banks which give a history of the
Cybermen.  I was wondering how long these cassettes are and what
people's opinions of them are.  

Thanks,

Neil Ottenstein
otten@quark.umd.edu