From: claude@trc.mew.mei.co.jp (Claude Huss)
Newsgroups: fj.misc
Subject: Re: No Response to English Articles? [English]
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:35:29 GMT
	<CLAUDE.92Jul28180617@tokyo.trc.mew.mei.co.jp> <2185@aegis.or.jp>
Followup-To: fj.misc
Organization: Matsushita Electric Works Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.


Dave> I'm not sure, but also I think this is another ox-walk.  Has anybody
Dave> asked how many replies people have gotten to articles in Japanese on
Dave> the rest of USENET? 

Of course some japanese will not see any kind of relationship in what
I am going to say, but this reminded me when I was looking to rent a
new apartment... Everybody refused me "only" and "only" because I was
a foreigner. Some real estate agents said "Foreigners cannot understand
our values", or a merely "I don't like foreigners, I don't like english
(sic)". AT LAST, I found a place, but my landlady "forced" me to sign
a contract with clauses like "You must pledge to don't speak in loud
voice", "You must pledge to don't invite friends from your country",
"You must pledge to don't laugh", etc. etc. I think it's happening
the same kind of thing here. Some people is excessively worried what
a group of foreigners could do or not do. To cross-post? I would 
crosspost if I think the subject I'm talking would be valid for another
newsgroup as well. Nobody said such requirements for another newsgroup,
because that ones are for japanese?? Are not some people acting like
my landlady and overprotecting "fj"??? Are the foreigners lacking
common-sense??

I would like to remark, but "freedom of speech" is not to "hear
what you want", but to permit any minority group the right   to
say anything and have the responsability for it, IMHO. 


Dave> My suspicion is that if the articles to cross-posted, the people
Dave> calling for this would be happy, but another group would be unhappy
Dave> because they would be "forced" to read English and other
Dave> non-Japanese languages. 

I would like to say it again, but I don't think this have to be a MUST.
It's not only a question of be happy or not. IMHO, it's impossible to
force this condition for all users. I think when users think the post
need to be crosspost, they will do. It's not a question *EXCLUSIVELY*
for the foreigners NG.


Dave> IMHO there is no way both of these groups can be made happy except
Dave> for us to forget about such a group. And maybe it will come to this,
Dave> but after all, it's the vote that counts, doesn't it?  And if the
Dave> vote fails we can have a mailing list, can't we?

I'm for a mailing list, TOO. However, I think it will very important
to have a minority newsgroup inside JP. This will be useful for everybody.


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             today yet. I don't know the true and the false. I know
             only the MU and I'm lonely here. Please, my landlady,
             forget me to speak loud when I fight with my wife..."
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Claude Huss
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