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Not really an aquaria question, more to do with ponds. I have a pond in which
I want it to be as natural as possible (or as natural as my observation and
information allows. ) However, a load of those rather nasty waterboatmen insects
have showed up and seem to be devouring every other bit of aquatic fauna they
can get their mandibles around. These are the upside down insects which float
just under the pond surface and "row" themselves with two long legs. They are
about an inch long. They attack everything that floats in their path.

What I want to know is, will these waterboatmen eat the tadpoles which I
transplanted into the pond. I know that if I want the pond to be natural then
this is part of the "system", but I would like to see some tadpoles survive.

                   Tanks in advance 

                             Pete Earlam
From: trimpe_b@wums.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: worm farm
Date: 4 SEP 92 12:02:05 GMT
Organization: MIT PLASMA FUSION CENTER
NNTP-Posting-Host: msnews.wustl.edu

Okay-okay-okay  I'm sorry from the bottom of my heart but would someone
have the patience and time to post or email the wonderful 'worm-farm'
write up that was floating around here?  I did print it out but my
hubby tossed it thinking we wouldn't want to do worms in a million
years.  Guess who wants to start one now:-)
Much appreciated
Beverly
wash Univ Med school, St. Louis
From: tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
Subject: Doctor X Pet Center
Date: 4 Sep 92 05:30:55 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

A friend of mine recently got a tank, and although he knows that I love fish,
he decided to do it all on his own.  He made a big mistake.  He went to the
local mall, to the Doctor X Pet Center, and bought a bunch of fish.  They
neglected to tell him several things.  I have to laugh, but when I saw the
miserable state of their tanks later, I wanted to cry.  They neglected to tell
him that he could not mix African and South American Cichlids.  Scratch one
gorgeous African.  They sold him a Jack Dempsey that looked remarkably like
the Black Convicts that I raise.  Wonder of wonders, it WAS a Black Convict.

I went to check this place out, a place I normally avoid like the plague, and
I was apalled to see all of the fish making love to the filter and doing the
backstroke.  They had fish mislabeled, living in swamp water with their dead
brethren, and sucking the top to breathe.  I was apalled at the conditions in
this store.  I'm sure all pet veterans know, but for those of you who are new
to the scene, never go to one of these stores.  The staff is uncaring,
untrained, and totally clueless.

It is truly a shame that stores such as this are allowed to exist.  Perhaps
the SPCA should get involved, because cruelty is exactly what is going on.
-- 


Tom Schmidlin       DEEP THOUGHTS: By Jack Handey - If God dwells inside
TES0@LEHIGH.EDU         us, like some people say, I sure hope he likes
215-758-0865            enchiladas, cause that's what he's getting.
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From: steve@celia.UUCP (Steve Tyree)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Hurricane Andrews Damage
Date: 25 Aug 92 17:26:16 GMT
Reply-To: celia!steve@usc.edu (Steve Tyree)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood


 Anyone living in the Southern Florida area care to estimate the amount
of devastation this hurricane has done to the underwater marine aquatic
life. How many coral reefs damaged ? This will probably be studied very
heavily by scientists in the future. I know the loss of human life is
terrible and the human suffering is incredible, but can you just imagine
the scope of damage done below the water line ?

 Steve Tyree - Reef Breeder
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
From: jony@microsoft.com (Jon Yeargers)
Subject: Re: Novaqua and phosphates
Date: 24 Aug 92 18:49:53 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa



My first post didn't make it out of here .. what do you (or the net
as a whole) recommend for water conditioners? We are having a drought
here in Seattle right now, so the city is putting 2-3x chlorine in
the water. This makes proper dechlorination a must.

BTW Ive been using Novaqua for almost a year now with no particular
problems.

Jonny Yeargers (jony)
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria
From: frazier@kona.cs.ucla.edu (Gregory Frazier)
Subject: Re: [F] [Plants] Wanted - hard-water plant list
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 92 22:42:47 GMT

Jim Hurley (jimh@ultra.com) wrote:
: Failing this, can anyone recommend plants they've had
: success in growing in hard water?

The larger Vals did well in our Tang. tank with very
hard water.  I think it was giant Val or jungle Val
(sorry, no Latin).  The stuff needs a tall tank and
lots of pruning (which we didn't give it).

--
"They thought to use and shame me but I win out by nature, because a true
freak cannot be made.  A true freak must be born." - Geek Love

Greg Frazier	frazier@CS.UCLA.EDU	!{ucbvax,rutgers}!ucla-cs!frazier
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
From: bednarek@picard.med.ge.com (Dennis Bednarek Mfg 4-6971)
Subject: Re: Cannister Filter Question ?????????????????
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 06:34:25 GMT


I have been repeatedly told that carbon is a must to remove many of
the chemical impurities in the water.  I have also been told that 
activated carbon is very short lived in this respect and that in just
hours after it is put into the filter it looses most of its purifing
ability.  Does anyone have any facts that show how long the carbon is 
effective, and how often it should be changed, or if the carbon bit
is just another play of the industry to get more of our dollars.

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From: black@sybase.com (Christina Black])
Newsgroups: rec.aquaria,alt.aquaria
Subject: Re: [F] Setup for plants and fish
Date: 28 Aug 92 23:27:16 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <BtLy2r.n2w@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ffujita@s.psych.uiuc.edu (Frank Fujita) writes:

>What type of plants do you suggest I keep with my goldfish?  

I know this was more of a rhetorical sally than a serious question, but
I'm so glad to see a question I know the answer to, so here goes . . .

My goldfish have destroyed every plant they've shared a tank with --
except my java fern, which flourishes, produces baby plants for
propagation, spreads, etc.

-- Chris
black@sybase.com
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: v041555@plato.lsvl8.stortek.com
Subject: Kauai C.O. Beach recommendations
Organization: StorageTek
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 22:45:45 GMT

First post to r.n

My wife and I are planning a trip to Kauai next month, and would like to know
of any nice C.O. beaches around the island.  We were there about 1.5 years ago
for our honeymoon and found a nice beach up north (Haena, I think) which had a
section at the far east end which had a few topless women and many nude men. 
She enjoyed being topless there, but I didn't get comfortable enough to go
buff.  Actually, she didn't want others to see my genitalia!  I think if we
found a true 'nude' beach, we could both try it without any clothes.  I would
definiately be more comfortable if everyone was nude, not just a few.  

	I know there is one beach that has been discussed extensively here, but
involves what sounds like quite a hike for two 26 year olds who aren't very
out-doorsy and seldom exercize.  Are there any with easy access?  By the way,
just what are the laws concerning C.O. bathing on the beaches there.  I thought
I saw that Oahu was going to make the state beaches C.O.!  That would be
awesome.  

	Looking forward to a relaxing vacation and a positive experience at a
C.O. beach!

E-mail replies and suggestions!
Thanks in advance!
Ken
From: Pat O'Brien <naturist@igc.apc.org>
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Date: 31 Aug 92 07:38 PDT
Subject: TNS,NAC
Nf-ID: #N:cdp:1457200029:000:1109
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!naturist    Aug 31 07:38:00 1992


To all:
	We have been receiving e-mail on Delphi over the past several days
from this net. I learn this morning that the Internet link with Delphi has
been completed, so you should be aware of the Delphi address if you want to 
send things to The Naturist Society or the Naturist Action Committee. It is
tns@delphi.com., includes last period.
	Of course, you can still simply e-mail us on this net like always.
I am visiting here three to five times a week and about the same on Delphi,
so take your pick. We also stop into the forums on CompuServe and GEnie on 
a regular basis.
	You can transact any business of any kind on these nets and boards.
If you want to join the Naturists, buy products, ask questions or whatever,
simply write and we will get an answer to you. If you are ordering something
or want something that must come by land mail, make sure you leave an 
address accessible on the earth the first time you write.
	Business transactions can be handled with a MC or Visa number along
with an expiration date.
	Thanks. Any time we can be of assistance, please let us know.
Pat O'Brien, TNS,NAC

Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: picl27@fsphy1.physics.fsu.edu (Jeffrey Johnson)
Subject: Re: Vulnerability
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: picl27@fsphy1.physics.fsu.edu
Organization: F.S.U. Dept of Physics
Date: 29 AUG 92 14:48:15    

In article <1992Aug29.010947.28571@gjetor.geac.com>, cliffg@gjetor.geac.com (Cliff Goldstein) writes...
>In article <1992Aug26.015637.28179@samba.oit.unc.edu>
>        Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick) wrote:
>>in our modern society where rape is prevalent,.....
>                                     ^^^^|^^^^
>                                         |------ ?!?!?!
> 
>First:  Apologies to the group at large for continuing an issue that
>in all probability doesn't belong here.
> 
>You know I almost NEVER get involved in arguments of a political
>nature but I really feel I must say something here.
> 
>I am getting sick and tired of mindless feminists of both the female
>AND male variety uttering statements with very little substance.
> 
>            "RAPE IS PREVALENT!  RAPE PREVAILS!"
> 
>Oh puuhhlease.  Give us a god damn break once and for all.
> 
>Yes, rape exists.  No one doubts that.  But are we supposed to believe
>that every woman has been, will be and is, at this very moment being
>raped?  It may make for great rhetoric but it is hardly based in fact.

what percentage of women do YOU think are raped by the time they
graduate college?  last i heard it was approximately one in four.
that is a hell of a lot isn't it?  have you ever sat down and 
listened to the story of a friend who has been raped? (and not
one of these panelists on the radio or something, but someone
that you care about?)  

i sympathize with your being tired of this whole thing----arent' we
all!  i just think a little more understanding of a problem that
you have VERY LITTLE chance of ever having to deal with would
do the whole world a bit of good....


ande
From: mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michel Fougeres)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: 1992 Volleyball Competition at White Thorn Lodge, PA.
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:41:12 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

It takes place the week-end after Labor Day.  This year the "official"
first day of the event is Friday Sept. 11.  Usually it goes on right
through
Sunday afternoon.  Many people try to get there by Thursday
evening/night in order not to miss any event and also because the camp
grounds get packed rather fast.  (Some people, as I understand, take off
the whole week PRECEDING the event, as vacation;  others get there by
Wednesday.)  Both on Friday evening and on Saturday evening there is
dancing, Friday with a live band, Saturday with a DJ.  Anybody who is a
volleyballer and wants to participate has to show up by Thursday evening
in order to be chosen by one of the teams.  Many people sleep in campers
and others pitch their tent wherever they can find room.  
(The 4 housing units cannot accommodate such a big crowd.)  I personally
don't have the problem of finding a place for a camper or for a tent
because I keep a small camper there year round.  But a few times when I
arrived late (like on the Saturday) parking my car near my camper was
somewhat difficult.  There will probably be organized activities for kids
too.  There will be plenty to eat and drink but one has to pay for it
and the lines are long at times.  On Saturday afternoon, usually there
is a generous corn roast (that's 100% free) and volunteers like me help
to "shuck the husks" (I have never been able to master that expression.)
   
                                      
                                        Michel





=====================================================================
If the facts are against you, argue the law.
It the law is against you, argue the facts.
If the facts and the law are against you, yell like hell.

                                (MURPHY)
From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Humpty-dumpty
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:25:15 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu

In article <> ta66863@kaarne.cs.tut.fi (Ahlqvist Tero Kalevi) writes:
>I started the discussion of exhibitionists and peeping toms, and I didn't
>blame any of you being either of them. I said just that it's maybe part of
>the good feeling.

Actually, in one of your posts you did say that most nudists were
exhibitionists and since almost all of us are nudists you accused most
of us of also being exhibitionists.

>                                I also wrote that there is some Murderer
>and some thief in all of us, but I didn't get ANY answers like: Tero, I'm
>not a murderer. Or I've never stolen anything. :-)

Well, I've killed bugs and rodents and fish and eat beef and pork and have
felt like killing other drivers on the freeway so would have trouble arguing
against the murderer accusation.  Many of us are stealing from our employers
by reading/writing news articles when we should be working (not me, of course)
and I can't honestly say I've never stolen anything. :-(  

I can say, honestly, I have never gotten any sort of thrill, sexual or
otherwise, out of showing my naked body to others.

-- 
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Thomas Earl Middleton		| Camping Bares:  "An Anarchist Disorganization
aka Happy Bare			| Dedicated to the Destruction of the Fabric of
middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu	| Our Society"
From: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: chests
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:04:25 GMT
Reply-To: wrat@unisql.UUCP (wharfie)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1670@ceylon.gte.com> RR04@bunny.gte.com (Rob Robertson) writes:
>I couldn't agree with you more, Amy. Every woman I've ever seen had two 
>breasts, one on each side, with a nipple roughly in the center. Same for 

	Hmmm.  I've seen more than a few women with only one.  And
at least one with none at all.  

	They were _still_ beautiful, and not in spite of their...difference...
but because their difference didn't matter.  

	Try explaining that to them, though...  It's the _expected_ or
feared reactions of others, I think, that preys on their minds...

>Well, usually when I see women's *private parts* what soon follows is an 
>enjoyable ritual of coercing my brain to release a flood of fun chemicals 

	Hummpphh.  What usually follows for me is either getting bit
by fire ants or getting splashed by some idiot speedboater ignoring the
swimming area buoys...
								wr
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca (Brad Booth)
Subject: Re: Being Naked in Canada
Originator: bbooth@bcrks6
Keywords: laws, police harassment
Reply-To: bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca (Brad Booth)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ltd
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 20:52:34 GMT


In article <1992Aug31.163431.7451@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, glenm@bnr.ca (Glen Martin) writes:
> Most hot springs are accepted for nude use. Of course, they are
> usually fairly remote. Few (none, in my experience) present give 
> a damn.

The key word there was remote... the tourist hot springs are pretty
adament about people being attired.  Banff, Fairmont and Harrison all
require swimsuits.  I know Banff even will rent you one if you forget
your own.  This doesn't prevent you from finding your own private
spring in the area and enjoying the hot springs naturally. :)

> I am not a lawyer. This should not be construed as legal advice.
> In fact, I didn't even type this - I left my terminal unattended
> while I was at lunch.

And you say that you're not a lawyer... that's one of the best
disclaimers I've ever read. ;)


    __o     Brad Booth              | "If somebody feels really good
  _`\<,_    Bell-Northern Research  |  about who they are, they don't
 (*)/ (*)   Ottawa, Ontario, Canada |  feel threatened by what other
----------  bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca  |  people are." - Dr. M. Rubenstein
From: Anthony.Gomes@p0.f879.n101.z1.ieee.org (Anthony Gomes)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: CNN and Nudity
Date: 22 Aug 92 15:50:00 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:101/879.0 - ScorpioNet, Fall River MA


 -=> Quoting bernier to All <=-

 b> From: bernier@mr4dec.enet.dec.com (WAYNE BERNIER)
 b> Date: 18 Aug 92 23:22:17 GMT
 b> Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
 b> Message-ID: <1992Aug18.213034.11357@ryn.mro4.dec.com>
 b> Newsgroups: rec.nude
 b>
 b>
 b>
 b> FWIW
 b>
 b> CNN (a cable station) has a show called Real Personal thats
 b> on around 10:30 here in the Boston area (Shrewsbury) that
 b> deals with all kinds of "personal" matters such as
 b> sex/sexuality mental illness, relationships, kids, gays, cross
 b> dressers just about any personal subject.
 b>
 b> Well, anyway last night they had on a couple who ran a nudist
 b> resort, a naturalist, and someone from a group called
 b> the "skinny dippers" (sp)
 b>
 b> They talked about nudity, sex, kids and nudity, cloths
 b> optional  places, errections at nudist resorts etc, etc
 b>
 b> It was a good show, it should be on again this Friday,
 b> usually they have a repeat of Mondays shows every Friday
 b>
 b> Tonight they will have someone from the Kinsley institute
 b> to answer questions about sex,
 b>
 b> Thats Real People on CNN , check your local paper/cable guide.
 b>
 b> They always have very interesting shows and good/intelligent
 b> guest who are usually experts in thier respected fields.
 b>
 b>
 b> Enjoy
 b>
 b>
 b> Wayne Bernier
 b>
 b>
 b>
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 b> Comedy                     * *
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     hello wayne, never  heard of this show how long has it been on the air
and it seems it just a mon thru fri show, I do watch cnn a lot but never that
late, since I didn't think they had any good shows on at that time frame, but
will tune in on monday and check it out. see ya...
... Call 911.  $3.00 first minute, $1.00 each additional minute.

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From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Camping Bares - Deep Creek
Date: 3 Sep 1992 20:42:14 GMT
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu


The Camping Bares will be going to Deep Creek Hot Springs on Saturday and
Sunday, September 12 & 13.  I am not sure if we will be staying at Bowen
Ranch or Moss Mill.  If you think you would like to join us send me email
and I will give you more information.

Deep Creek is at the northern edge of the San Bernardino National Forest
near the community of Hesperia.

-- 
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Thomas Earl Middleton		| Camping Bares:  "An Anarchist Disorganization
aka Happy Bare			| Dedicated to the Destruction of the Fabric of
middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu	| Our Society"
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Subject: Re: Info Needed - Virginia
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 21:02:33 GMT

In article <17j5jpINNec3@network.ucsd.edu> middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:
>
>I received the following request for help via email.  If anyone has useful
>information for this person please post it.  Do NOT send it to me.
>
>(email from anonymous person):
>>I've been reading your group and have always thought we (My girlfriend
>>and I) could try this lifestyle but don't know of anyone in it.  I am located
>>in south eastern Virginia.  I remember that there was a place in Suffolk and
>>one in Gloucester I had heard about, there should be a beach somewhere near by
>>with Nags Head, Hatteras, Va Bch and Sandbridge.  How do we get started?

There are two natur/nudist places in Virginia you could start with. One is
White Tail Park, in Zuni (on the southside, between Suffolk and
Petersburg). I've never been there myself, but have heard very good things
about it. Their address is PO Box 160, Zuni, VA 23898; (804) 859-6123. A
little further away from your position is Avalon Conservation Club, in
Criglersville, VA (on the edge of the Blue Ridge Mountains. Avalon is a
very quiet, peaceful place, so if that's not what you're looking for, be
forewarned. Patrick and Phillis, the couple who run Avalon, are
exceptionally nice people, and I recommend that anyone living in (or
passing through) Virginia visit Avalon at least once. Write them at PO Box
763, Madison, VA 22727; (703) 923-4316.

Remember to enclose SASE's when writing these (or any other) clubs. Best
of luck!

mark cornick, james madison university   stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: dza@unixland.natick.ma.us (David Archer)
Subject: Re: Concerns of a New Nudist
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 22:35:19 GMT

In article <25AUG199209110111@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> scridd@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov writes:
>I hope that you do get the courage to try a CO beach or club.  If you
>do, you will soon realize that nobody there will laugh at your body
>or care how "well built" you are.  In fact, you will probably see
>many others who do not fit the popular image of attractiveness.

I have had limited experience with nude spots (because there aren't
many in this part of the country), but in what I've seen, *MOST*
people there do not fit the "popular image of attractiveness".


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Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: An option to the s** word 
Distribution: world
Organization: Demon Systems Limited.
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 22:19:03 +0000

In article <9208250019.AA16159@nettlerash.berkeley.edu> HENDRY@ETSUADMN.BITNET writes:
>                                            and delete any garbage that
>has been on this list lately.
>     If you want information, or to subscribe, e-mail me at:
>
>     HENDRY@ETSUADMN.ETSU.EDU

	Yes!  Let's hear it for censorship!  One man's garbage.........
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