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From: jose@gr.osf.ORG
Subject: reading mail spontaneously
Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:38:13 GMT

Hi,

Can anyone tell me if there's a way to make emacs read mail as it
comes, intead of having to ask explicitly for it ? It could do what
xbiff does, and instead of having a silly beep and a rv mailbox on my
screen I would have the mail incorporated in my mailbox and displayed.
It would also be nice to have this happen only if I have read all the
mails incorporated in the mailbox, otherwise I could miss some and the
thing would go a bit electric.

Silly ?

Jose Rogado (jose@gr.osf.org)
From: olstad@kl.msc.edu (Ken Olstad)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: compile.el vs xlf
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:50:22 GMT
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Inc.

>>>>> On 12 Aug 92 14:19:10 GMT, lamy@sobeco.com (Jean-Francois Lamy) said:

 Jean-Francois> When compiling Fortran program under GNU emacs 18.57
 Jean-Francois> (M-x compile), users report that Fortran error
 Jean-Francois> messages are not parsed properly by M-x next-error.

 Jean-Francois> Had anyone found a workaround?

You might be able to fix this by setting the value of
compilation-error-regexp.  See compile.el.

Ken
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: rpg@cs.tulane.edu (Robert Goldman)
Subject: cheat sheet
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-7616]: clones
Reply-To: rpg@cs.tulane.edu (Robert Goldman)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Tulane University
Distribution: gnu
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:35:04 GMT

Does anyone out there have a simple, relatively painless
introduction to gnu emacs?  I am going to be starting out some
beginners on it, and would like something to hand out.  Thanks!

R
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: sledge@rama.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Thomas Bueschgens)
Subject: Problems building Lucid 19.2 on ISC R3.2 V3.0
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:58:55 GMT

Hello out there,

have some trouble here on my site :(( !
Just got Lucid 19.2, uncompressed it and started to build it after setting
up the config.h file in scr/ !  No Problems so far.
Then some minor changes (double includes) had to be done. after that, the
compile-stage made no probs, just at link time the hole thing f*cked up :-((

Seems that there are some libs missing with acosh, asinh ... (libm.a stuff,
							      should be ;))

   and realpath, remainder    (ough, what's that, bsd-stuff ??)

  declared in .

So:
  Is there anyone out there running lucid 19.2 on ISC 3.2(3.0) ,
	compiled with gcc 2.2.2   (tried with this one)

  What has to be done to get them stuff runnin'

 Thanks in advance   (ANY help appreciated)

      Thomas


Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: kennedy@mama3.INTellection.COM (Brian M Kennedy)
Subject: Shell, processes, and rlogin
Reply-To: Brian M Kennedy <kennedy@intellection.com>
Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 02:49:01 GMT

Can anyone explain the following behavior?

1) M-x shell
2) In the shell, rlogin to anywhere
3) C-c C-c
	-- no effect
4) C-q C-c RET
	-- one new prompt for the C-c received by the shell
	-- one new prompt for the return
	=> I conclude that I can send C-c characters through rlogin
	   to the shell on the other side; good.
5) sleep 30
6) Within 30 seconds:
	6a) C-c C-c
		-- no effect
	6b) C-q C-c RET
		-- something echos the C-c RET;
                   but otherwise no effect
	6c) wait for end of 30 seconds
		-- sleep exits, prompt is output
		-- THEN shell processes the C-c (rings bell, new prompt)

Why does this behave this way?

Or more to the point, I want to be able to break that sleep 30 -- how
do I do it when it is running inside of an rlogin?

>From an xterm running rlogin, I know it is possible to send a kill
through an rlogin to that sleep 30; but how do I do it from an Emacs
shell (or can I modify shell to do it)?

Any hints are welcome,
Thanks,

Brian
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: ara@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Allan Adler)
Subject: demacs vs. freemacs
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.
Distribution: gnu
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 09:03:12 GMT


I have succeeded in installing demacs on an 80386 MSDOS system and it works.
Formerly, I was using freemacs and was reasonably happy with it until
I started losing a lot of work when it hung the system, presumably from
insufficient memory. That is what persuaded to finally get around to 
installing demacs which had been lying around uninstalled on the machine.

Now that I am using demacs, I am noticing a lot of ways in which it is
superior to and inferior to freemacs. So I am wondering what I can do to
give demacs the good features I got used to with freemacs.

For example:

(1) When I suspend freemacs with ^X^Z and run the computer algebra package
    REDUCE, either I can do so or I get an error message saying there is not
    enough memory. But in either case, when I type exit, I can return to
    freemacs. But when I tried this with demacs, typing ^Z to suspend, I
    was able to run REDUCE but was unable to return to demacs by typing exit.

(2) When I ran demacs on the file I had left behind, I got a message about
    how I should consider M-x recover-file. But when I ran it, instead of
    giving me the subsequent prompts, it simply hung the machine. Since
    since the filename and extension seem to matter, I should mention that
    the file was named prox.tex. I've never tried M-x recover-file with 
    freemacs.

(3) In freemacs, you can use the alt key nearly interchangeably with the
   escape key. In demacs apparently you cannot. 
(4) In freemacs, you can use both the backspace and the delete keys for
    deletions, whereas in demacs the backspace key triggers HELP.
(5) In freemacs, if I give the command M-x search-forward and then want
    to search for the same string it remembers the string so that you don't
    have to type it again. If you issue the same M-x command twice in a row,
     you don't have to type it the second time because it remembers it.
(6) ^@ works in freemacs to mark the beginning of something you want to
    move into the yank buffer, this being ended by ^w.. When I type ^@
    in demacs, I get a beep but no message about the mark being set. By
    ^@ I mean ^-shift-2.

I will prefer to work with demacs because it is more powerful, implements
more of GNU emacs, including the info facility, but I would like it better
if I could equip it with the features I have noted in freemacs and if I
could get some of the features it is supposed to have to work, such
as M-x recover-file and ^@ and allowing other processes such as REDUCE 
to run while it is suspensed.

Allan Adler
ara@altdorf.ai.mit.edu
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: jlph7@fel.tno.nl (Joost van Lawick van Pabst)
Subject: c++-mode
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:59:09 GMT

I have byte-compiled the c++-mode.el file and put it in
/usr/local/gnu/emacs/lisp. I thought I could now call the 
mode (M-x c++-mode) but it does not work. Can anybody tell
me what I did wrong?

Joost
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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: kevin@edscom.demon.co.uk (Kevin Broadey)
Subject: Re: How to do set ts=4
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
	<ETHANB.92Aug6131237@ptolemy.astro.washington.edu>
	<MAH.92Aug6164730@fjmah.att.com>
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:45:34 GMT

In article <MAH.92Aug6164730@fjmah.att.com> mah@fjmah.att.com (54628-M. Hargrove) writes:

   Thank you both for your replies.

   Setting c-indent-level doesn't seem to work in the middle of your
   emacs session (I realize you didn't say it did).  My original question
   was how to do :set ts=4.  I wasn't specific enough but I did mean
   "how do I do it any time".  I have some files where tab stops are
   meant to be at 8 in some places and 4 at other places so I need to
   flip back and forth between 8 and 4.

   Messy, I know.

   Any more ideas?

You could try "M-x set-variable tab-width 4".  This seems to do exactly what I
think you want.  Note that the variable is made buffer-local the moment you do
anything to it.  See also `default-tab-width'.
-- 
Kevin Broadey, EDS-Scicon
Mail:	Wavendon Tower, Wavendon, Milton Keynes, MK17 8LX, England
E-mail: kbroadey@edscom.demon.co.uk
Phone:	+44 908 284198 or +44 908 585858 ext 4198
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: boris@math10.mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de (Boris Hemkemeier)
Subject: Re: modification of load-path during build?
Date: 16 Aug 92 15:05:25
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Bielefeld, Germany

In article <amos.713813003@sol.acs.unt.edu> amos@sol.acs.unt.edu (Amos A. Gouaux) writes:
[...]
	can folks advise me as to whether or not this would be sound.  where
	would be the most practical place to modify the load-path?  in
	"paths.h"?  in "site-init.el"?  somewhere in the Makefile?  i've been
	using make to build emacs - wouldn't that cause the definitions in
	"paths.h" to be lost?  or should i just do the alteration in the
	regular "default.el" before anything else is done?

	also, why is it that "../info/dir" gets blown away during an install.
	if i'm not mistaken, aren't folks supposed to add info file packages
	underneath this root?  should there be a "dir.local" as well?

Here is what we do: We install only the standard distribution of emacs
without any modifications. Every new user gets an ~/.emacs file
containing the line "(load-file "/usr/skel/emacs")". The file
"/usr/skel/emacs" includes redefinitions of pathes and additional
commands like 

(setq load-path (cons (expand-file-name "/usr/shared/elisp") load-path))
(setq load-path (cons (expand-file-name "/usr/shared/elisp/auctex") load-path))
(setq load-path (cons (expand-file-name "/usr/shared/elisp/calc") load-path))

(autoload 'gp "/usr/shared/elisp/pari" "Open pari shell." t)

(setq Info-directory "/usr/shared/info")

(require 'ange-ftp)

etc.

Look ar the pathes: All pathes are not in the emacs directory
(/usr/local/...). 

Advantages: i)The SysAdmin has to maintain a single file regardless to
the current emacs version. 
ii) Installing a new emacs version is easy: "make install". No local
implementations will be overwritten.
iii) Debugging is easy. Invoke emacs with "emacs -q" and you can work
with a "clean" emacs without builtin modifications. 

Boris H.
--
			  "Say no to bugs!"
Boris Hemkemeier	boris@mathematik.uni-bielefeld.de.
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.emacs
From: davids@stsci.edu (David Silberberg)
Subject: Help!!!  I'm trying to remap my keyboard
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: control-x meta
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:23:18 GMT

I'm trying to map control-x to my ESC key and map my meta key to ESC ESC.
I'm using the following syntax in my .emacs file in my home directory:

(global-set-key "\M" 'Control-X-prefix)
(global-set-key "\M\M" 'ESC-prefix)

It's not working, however.  Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
Please respond to me by e-mail since I'm not a regular reader of this
group.

Thanks,
David
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From: "rick sheridan" <rick.sheridan@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: c++ mode in demacs
Date: 20 Aug 92 15:47:28 EST
Reply-To: "rick sheridan" <rick.sheridan@channel1.com>
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

Has anyone successfully compiled and used c++-mode.el in Demacs?  The
Lisp reader flags an error sometime when a `.' occurs in a description!

Also, when byte-compiling a file, what part does bytecomp.el(c) do and
what is done internally?

Rick.                      Rick.Sheridan@channel1.com 
Entered Aug 20,92 at 12:39:33
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From: ara@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Allan Adler)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: control-@ in demacs
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:53:37 GMT
	<1992Aug21.093335.1271@aiware.in-berlin.de>
Distribution: gnu
Organization: M.I.T. Artificial Intelligence Lab.

In article <1992Aug21.093335.1271@aiware.in-berlin.de> scm@aiware.in-berlin.de (Harald Schmidt) writes:

   ara@zurich.ai.mit.edu (Allan Adler) writes:

   >Respondents were unanimous in suggesting that if not control-@ then certainly
   >control-SPC would work. It doesn't.

   I have got the same problem, but if I type \C-SPC twice, it works.

   Hope this helps,



I tried control-SPC, control-SPC SPC, control-SPC control-SPC
and other things. Nothing works.

Allan Adler
ara@altdorf.ai.mit.edu
From: gamin@ireq-robot.hydro.qc.ca (Martin Boyer)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: Prefix in Emacs Lisp "packages"
Date: 20 Aug 92 19:54:19 GMT
Organization: Le laboratoire de robotique de l'Institut de recherche
	d'Hydro-Quebec

>>>>> Richard Stallman writes:

>The character `:' has no advantage over the character `-'.
>And it makes names look less uniform.

That *IS* the advantage; to distinguish package names from symbol
names.  And, as long as the FSF sticks to the '-' convention, it
allows the rest of us to know we're using a non-standard library.


--
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Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec    mboyer@ireq-robot.uucp
Varennes, QC, Canada   J3X 1S1
+1 514 652-8412
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: kevin@edscom.demon.co.uk (Kevin Broadey)
Subject: Re: C-s problems
Organization: EDS-Scicon, Milton Keynes, UK
Distribution: gnu.emacs.help
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 10:09:41 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.200128.25622@seas.smu.edu> pedersen@seas.smu.edu (Ted Pedersen) writes:

   I am a new emacs user and am having a very good time learning my way around.
   However, a problem has come up. It seems that whenever I use the C-s key
   (either as a part of a C-x C-s command or to do a forward search) I just 
   lock up. Nothing registers on the little mini buffer and I usually have to 
   bail all the way out of emacs. Note that C-r (the backward search) works very
   well. Anybody have any ideas of what this might be and/or what I can do to
   get around it.

   Thanks,
   Ted Pedersen


This looks like a flow control problem, because C-s (otherwise known as XOFF)
is a standard way for a terminal to tell the host to stop sending it
characters.

Now, Emacs ought to set the terminal driver to pass flow control characters
straight through (rather than action them), so my guess is you're using
something like a DEC-VT220...

In the `Communications Set-Up' menu is a field at the start of the second line
which reads "XOFF at 64", "XOFF at 128" or "NO XOFF".  If it is set to one of
the first two, typing `C-s' causes the VT to lock the display _immediately_,
wait for a few more characters (maybe), then send `C-s' to the host.  What you
need to do is set it to "NO XOFF" so that the VT passes `C-s' straight to the
host.

Mail me and let me know what you _are_ using if I've completely missed the
mark!
-- 
Kevin Broadey, EDS-Scicon
Mail:	Wavendon Tower, Wavendon, Milton Keynes, MK17 8LX, England
E-mail: kbroadey@edscom.demon.co.uk
Phone:	+44 908 284198 or +44 908 585858 ext 4198
From: alih@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (HAMISHEH BAHAR/ALI/MR)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: help w/TEXT-ABBREV-FILL initiallization sought.
Date: 13 Aug 92 03:49:32 GMT
Distribution: can
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal



	Could some kind electronic philanthrope out there, please,
mail me info on initiallization of my .emacs so I can set-up
TEXT-ABBREV-FILL mode by default? 
	I can do TEXT-FILL, even loading a .abbrevf with the correct
abbreviations, but not the whole shebbang!

	I use X, so the gnumacs window is automatically set-up.

						Many thanks,
						Ali.

alih@ee470.mcgill.ca
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: witchel@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Emmett Jethro Witchel)
Subject: Merging a saved file into an Rmail file
Keywords: rmail, news, mail
Organization: /u/witchel/.organization
Date: 14 Aug 92 11:54:04


	Hi,

	I started using gnus, and I like the idea of saving files in Rmail
files so much, I want to merge the existant scattered files into my
gnus created Rmail files.

	Unfortuneately, this is not that easy as C-ug <file name> returns
with the message no new mail to incorporate (even after I touched the
file to insure it was more recent than the Rmail file).  Indeed the
only way I have gotten this to work is my hand editing the Rmail
file which is a real pain.

	Please, any suggestions?

thanks
emmett
From: ratinox@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Richard Pieri/Stainless Steel Rat)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: delete-all-buffers?
Date: 21 Aug 92 01:16:58 GMT
	<RATINOX.92Aug19140605@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu>
	<170jknINNjfq@wendy-fate.UU.NET>
Reply-To: ratinox@meceng.coe.northeastern.edu
Organization: 3WA, Boston Office. Or Nu Meta Chi. Take your pick.
In-reply-to: kyle@wendy-fate.UU.NET's message of 20 Aug 92 17:09:43 GMT
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X-Posting-Software: GNUS 3.14.1 [ NNTP-based News Reader for GNU Emacs ]

>>>>> "KJ" == Kyle Jones <kyle@wendy-fate.UU.NET> writes:

[kill-all-buffers or not]

KJ> Use M-x buffer-menu.  It's easy to clean up buffer this way.

But... but... but... that's just another buffer I have to kill! :-)

--Rat

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From: abraham@iesd.auc.dk (Per Abrahamsen)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: tex-mode commands for latex sections
Date: 14 Aug 92 20:29:33 GMT
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


>>>>> On 11 Aug 92 14:19:01 GMT, quinn@dartmouth.edu (Jerry Quinn) said:

Jerry> While using tex-mode for writing my thesis, I found a "need" to have a
Jerry> command that would automatically make a new sectioning command at the
Jerry> same, higher, or lower level as the last one.  Here they are.  You can
Jerry> either load them from .emacs or put them into tex-mode.el.

Such functions are also standard with AUC TeX.

	C-c C-x		Prompts for the section level with completion
			(default the same as the last) and the title.

	C-u C-c C-x	Default one section below the current one.

	C-u - C-c C-x	Default one section above the current one.

	C-u <x> C-c C-x Default to section level <x>.

AUC TeX is available by anonymous ftp from iesd.auc.dk in the file
/pub/emacs-lisp/auctex.tar.Z
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: volker@sfb256.iam.uni-bonn.de ( Volker A. Brandt )
Subject: Gnu emacs binary for sparc available for anon ftp?
Organization: Applied Math, University of Bonn, Germany
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:25:11 GMT

Hi!  Subject says it all.  A friend needs an emacs binary for a sparcstation,
and I don't have any sun to compile the thing.

Thanks -- Volker

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From: krish@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (Krishnan P)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Question about emacs 18.58.1
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:52:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: /home/giga/krish/.organization
Follow-Up: poster


This is a very basic question, and I hope I am not making a fool
of myself by asking it :-)

We have both emacs 18.58.1 and 18.58.2 -- Until recently the 18.58.1
version used to pop up a window of it's own when I ran it under
OpenWindows 3.0 on a Sun Sparcstation.  It doesn't do it anymore
and I have no clue why.  18.58.2 (I think this is a beta release)
still works fine (pops up its own window).

My question is what could have I done to 18.58.1?  Or am I
confused and 18.58.1 doesn't ever pop up a window of it's own?

Please help me!

Thanks!

--Krish
--
--Krish
From: rpg@cs.tulane.edu (Robert Goldman)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: help under VMS emacs
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:59:15 GMT
Reply-To: rpg@cs.tulane.edu (Robert Goldman)
Distribution: gnu
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Tulane University
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-17897]: clones


I am trying to get gnu installed under (ugh) VAX VMS so that some
students of mine can use it.  I can't get the "help for key" command
to work.  The problem is that that command wants to open file
doc-18.57.14  Unfortunately, VMS renames this file to DOC-18.57;14,
turning the 14 into its own kind of version number, which emacs
does not understand.  Even more unfortunately, the person who is
installing emacs is not even a user, let alone someone to go
grovelling over the file-manipulation stuff.

Can anybody offer any suggestions about this?  patches?  I would be
eternally grateful, as would my students, bless their pointy little
heads.

Best,
R
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: bashford@scripps.edu (Don &)
Subject: Re: cheat sheet
Organization: The Scripps Research Institute, La Jolla, CA, USA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 07:12:47 GMT

>>>>> In article <RPG.92Aug19203504@clones.cs.tulane.edu>, rpg@cs.tulane.edu (Robert Goldman) writes:
RG> Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-7616]: clones

RG> Does anyone out there have a simple, relatively painless
RG> introduction to gnu emacs?  I am going to be starting out some
RG> beginners on it, and would like something to hand out.  Thanks!

If you really want a "cheat sheet" you could give them Steven Gildae's
Emacs Quick Reference card (should be in /usr/local/emacs/refcard.tex)
which is a handy reminder for key bindings, function names etc.
Its not an intro though.

Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: alih@ee470.ee.mcgill.ca (HAMISHEH BAHAR/ALI/MR)
Subject: HELP w/text-abbrev-fill initiallization sought.
Organization: EE Lab, McGill University EE Lab, Montreal
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 92 18:18:17 GMT



	Could some kind electronic philanthrope out there, please,
mail me info on initiallization of my .emacs so I can set-up
TEXT-ABBREV-FILL mode by default? 
	I can do TEXT-FILL, even loading a .abbrevf with the correct
abbreviations, but not the whole shebbang!

	I use X, so the gnumacs window is automatically set-up.

						Many thanks,
						Ali.

alih@ee470.mcgill.ca

Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: moore@src.bae.co.UK (Chris Moore)
Subject: Thanks for the help
Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 17:17:29 GMT


cary@carina.unm.edu (Ithlial the Archer) said:

> To Everbody who answered my plee for help,

> Thank all very much!  15 replies and counting, I get the idea! :-)

Oops.  Sorry.

>                The only good Troll is a dead Troll

> 			   Collary:

>           Trolls regenerate - There are no dead Trolls

So where do I find a recent version of mdg, the multi-user dungeon game, or
did it die off after being posted to comp.sources.games.  The author
doesn't answer his email.  I can't read news.  Boo hoo.

Chris.
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