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From: slb3y@cc.usu.edu (Punk Rocketeer)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: Question on general trivia: Imponderables
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:16:36 MDT
Organization: Omega:  The Final Solution

In article <1992Dec14.061135.17436@netcom.com>, lllowen@netcom.com
(lllowen) writes:
> Is there a newsgroup dedicated to general questions?  Meaning, some type
> of group that basically encompasses trivia questions, but yet are seriously
> answerable.  Like, you're wondering who that person was that wrote that
> book, or why a 2x4 doesn't really measure 2x4, or why are manhole covers
> round...etc?  
> 
> If anyone has read any of the David Feldman series of Imponderables,
> this general trivia might be interesting.

     Along the lines of Feldman's "Imponderables" books, there's
alt.folklore.*.  Those seem to be a pretty good place to post a lot of
the types of questions he attempts to answer.  But I don't think a
general "questions" newsgroup would be a good idea, although it does
offer a place for all those "what is this newsgroup for" things.
-- 
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Newsgroups: alt.config
From: ag129@cus.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant)
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.fan.anne-rice
Organization: U of Cambridge, England
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:59:30 GMT

In article <forb0004.133.724104671@student.tc.umn.edu> forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis ) writes:
>Since you seem to be about the only consistent critic of the proposed group,
>I'd say that it looks like we have good grounds to start the group.

why not have alt.favourite.author and then use subject headings to
create threads for particular authors.  Several groups make intelligent
use of kill files and other forms of customisation in this way.
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: rja@mahogany126.cray.com (Russ Anderson)
Subject: Re: New group proposal:  alt.conservative.forum
Originator: rja@mahogany126
Organization: The 1991 World Champion Minnesota Twins!
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:56:19 CST


In article <1gl52rINN4mf@master.cs.rose-hulman.edu>, pearsodc@HYDRA.ROSE-HULMAN.EDU (if God's your father then call home!) writes:
> I would like to formally propose a new group, alt.conservative.forum, 
> a moderated group to discuss conservative values and assorted political
> goings-on from a distinctly right-wing standpoint.

"moterated", as in only politically correct conservative doctrine allowed?

> Rationale:  Let's face it:  the net is infested with liberals.

Oh my God, "infested with liberals"!  Maybe you can get conservatives defined
as an endangered species.  :-)

>                                                                 I won't
> say this is either good or bad, but the fact is there.

The fact that liberals post -> there must be a newsgroup where liberals
are not allowed.  Great logic.

>                                                          Another fact:  
> some jerks with distinctly left-wing tendencies like to post to groups like
> alt.fan.rush-limbaugh and post tons of gibberish about everything
> conservatives stand for, without factual defense of their positions.

This is funny, given Rush's daily spewing about liberals...

> A moderated group would cut out this gibberish and allow reasoned, intelligent
> discussion of the issues facing the country and the world.

No need to defend the conservative doctrine from reality...

>                                                            Intelligent
> conservatives (and I will propose intelligent liberals as well, since, 
> contrary to popular conservative opinion, such animals do exist) will be
> encouraged to participate in our discussions.
> 
> A moderator, a charter, and some internet clues (like how to send a newgroup
> message) for the man proposing this group are needed, and would be much 
> appreciated.
> 
> Chuck Pearson

-- 
Russ Anderson    |  Disclaimer: Any statements are my own and do not reflect
------------------              upon my employer or anyone else.  (c) 1992
EX-Twins' Jack Morris, 10 innings pitched, 0 runs (World Series MVP!)
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth "the Lesser")
Subject: Re: This is ONLY a concept
Organization: Generic American College Kids (G.A.C.K.)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:54:17 GMT
Reply-To: slb22@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Seth "the Lesser")
X-Posted-From: cunixb.cc.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

thealien@nevada.edu (Minstrel Alien) writes:
>
>		What I conceptualize at the moment is
>
>			alt.fan.boc
>
>To discuss the music, background, etc of the group Blue Oyster Cult.

BOC has a thriving mailing list devoted to its music, background, etc.  (No, I
don't have the addresses; I don't subscribe to it.)  The traffic is moderate.
If you want to discuss BOC, join the list; there's no need for a newsgroup
devoted to it.

If you're interested, email me, and I'll find out the addresses.

Seth L. Blumberg          \ Warning: This posting has been determined to cause
slb22@columbia.edu (play)   \ cancer in laboratory animals.  Please make sure
sethb@ctr.columbia.edu (work) \ that no white mice are allowed to read it.  
    > No one I know shares my opinions, least of all Columbia University. <
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.tv.saved.by.the.bell
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:26:59 GMT

In article <42531@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins) writes:

>   (In fact, maybe "exploitation" should be before "tv" so's to
>allow for "alt.exploitation.movies" which actually would get a
>reader or two.)

Would we need to seperate on the basis of media?  Why not simply
alt.exploitation.teen, alt.exploitation.black,
alt.exploitation.baby-m, and so on?

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
From: tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu (TJ Wood)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: RESULT: comp.society.folklore unmoderation fails 729:151
Date: 20 Dec 92 07:39:53 GMT
Reply-To: tjw+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <42730@sdcc12.ucsd.edu>, pashley@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Montykins) writes:
> In article <944@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, tjw+@pitt.edu (TJ Wood) writes:

>>OR it could have been from those "flame-bait" postings that Joel and I put
>>in rec.arts.startrek entitled "Lost in Space Was Better" in which we set a
>>"reply-to:" address of "vote-no@sq.com".  ;-)  As I said, if you're going
>>to commit VOTE FRAUD, you've got to use IMAGINATION!


> <laughter>

> But, before somebody starts screaming "revote!", let's keep in mind
> that even if only a TENTH of the "No" votes count, the vote STILL
> FAILS by the 100-vote margin.

> Shame on you, Terry. Shame!

Yea, I've been able to pull a couple of news.group.control.weenies legs
before the break.  It's been great.  Everybody in AFU knows that posting
"Lost in Space was BETTER" doesn't work in rec.arts.startrek.* 'cause they're
wise to it.  You have to post that Captain Kirk's middle name is TERRY to
cause them to go on a reply-to frenzy.

>>"Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"                        - Lord "John" Warfin

> That's "Whorfin", Terry. Sheesh, how many times do people correct
> you on that? I've seen Kibo do it twice . . .

I've even flushed out the REAL Lord Whorfin.  If you remember the ADVENTURES
of BB, Lord Whorfin just HATES it when you misspell his name.

Terry "VOTE FRAUD! VOTE FRAUD!" Wood
-- 
        INTERNET: tjw+@pitt.edu         BITNET: TJW@PITTVMS
"Laugh while you can, Monkey Boy!"                        - Lord "John" Warfin
"There can be only one!"                                  - The Highlander
"There should have been only one. I want my money back!"  - Terry
"Captain Kirk's middle name is `Terry' - Gene "Beam me UP!" Rodenberry
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews)
Subject: Submitted For Your Approval
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:36:03 GMT

Well, so much for the debate.

 -----

Control: newgroup alt.pub.cloven-shield
Newsgroups: alt.test
From: conner@qucis.queensu.ca (Mike Conner)
Subject: Creation of new group
Organization: Computing & Information Science, Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:39:49 GMT

I would like to propose the creation of a new group entitled 

     alt.pub.cloven-shield

This would be a role playing/description based adventure game set in a new
enviornment called the cloven-shield.  Now alt.pub.dragons-inn already
exists but it is set in an entirly different atmosphere.  The two groups
would share a common PUB theme but the characters that live and 
play in these worlds would be different.

Thank you for your time, and patience.
:) Michael Conner
conner@qucis.queensu.ca
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From: trsnyder@mcs.Drexel.edu (Bob Snyder)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.mud,rec.games.mud.misc,rec.games.mud.admin,rec.games.mud.diku,alt.mud.t-rev.stomp.stomp.stomp,rec.games.mud.lp,rec.games.mud.tiny
Subject: Re: alt.mud.logs,alt.mud.logs.d,alt.mud.fiction,alt.mud.fiction.d
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:42:20 GMT
	<1992Dec11.133913.21067@oz.plymouth.edu>
	<1992Dec12.023513.23986@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
Followup-To: alt.config,rec.games.mud.misc
Organization: Drexel University, Dept. of Math. and Comp. Sci.

>>>>> In article <1992Dec12.023513.23986@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>,
>>>>> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (JKF) writes:

JKF> The majority opposed adding these groups to rec.*.  They did not vote on
JKF> whether there should be groups of this sort at all, as there was no
JKF> question concerning this on the ballot.  Seventy-some people indicated
JKF> interest in the groups for whatever reason.  As the groups prosper and
JKF> succeed, perhaps more will take up the banner.

They're dead.  Let them rest in peace.  The only reason I didn't argue
against them during the CFV was that I seriously thought it was just a
big joke, until the Call for Votes was issued.  Mud Logs generally
aren't interesting to anyone not involved in them or unless they
affect them, and they are generally huge.  It wasn't the greatest idea
from the beginning.  Let them die.

Bob

[Note the followup-to]
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis )
Subject: another brief reason for starting alt.fan.anne-rice
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:29:00 GMT

Alt.vampyr, where most of the discussion about Rice is happening now (it was 
briefly mentioned on soc.culture.romania with FFC's Dracula recently), 
is not regarded favorably by some of the somewhat more uptight types. 

There are literary souls out there being _deprived_ of a good Rice chat for 
the lack of a serious arena to conduct it in; can we permit this injustice 
to stand? :) Vote "no" by convincing your systems administrator to send out 
a make group command (or whatever it is). 

Advance apologies for any perceived slurs against alt.vampyr. 
---------

Eric Forbis      forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: alt.fan.rita-rudner
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:10:16 GMT

If the newgroup message for this group propagated nearly as well as
the discussion on it, it would probably have been picked up at many
more sites.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
From: alaric@sti.com (Alaric Tekiahyn)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: alt.dragons-inn renaming
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:39:41 GMT
Organization: Software Transformation, Inc.
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: smurf.sti.com


This post is simply to express my support for the renaming of
alt.dragons-inn to alt.pub.cloven-shield.

Please note:  this is *NOT* an attempt to rename alt.PUB.dragons-inn.
This is *PRECISELY* the kind of confusion that we are attempting to
*AVOID* by this change of name.  If this change goes through, then
the alt.pub.dragons-inn people will have their own group (which will
still be alt.pub.dragons-inn), and we alt.dragons-inn people will
have our own group (alt.pub.cloven-shield), and hopefully newsadmins
wll *stop* aliasing one to the other (which screws things op for
everyone).


Summary of the proposed change:

alt.dragons-inn		BECOMES		alt.pub.cloven-shield;
alt.pub.dragons-inn	REMAINS		alt.pub.dragons-inn;

And *everyone* in *both* groups is better off in the end.

Any questions?


-- 
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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:04:02 EST
From: Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: New group proposal: alt.conservative.forum
 <92351.120458KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Dec16.192317.24677@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>

In article <1992Dec16.192317.24677@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>,
arromdee@jyusenkyou.cs.jhu.edu (Ken Arromdee) says:

>>Then we'd better call it 'soc.dittoheads'.  Same difference, right?

>The existence of flames like this when someone even _mentions_ conservatism
>is exactly why such a newsgroup is needed.
>--

Flame?  What flame?  Geez. I, sir, AM a dittohead, and I look forward to the
few glimmers of conservatism which shine through the liberal murk on the net.

I just don't think we need a moderated newsgroup.  I don't like at all the
argument that since there's a soc.feminism, that there should be a moderated
conservative group.  (Which should be called soc.dittoheads, to balance out
soc.feminism.)

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From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: New group proposal:  alt.conservative.forum
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 14:02:23 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

ryanm@stein.u.washington.edu (Ryan Mcneilly) writes:
> Not in the way you mean it.  We don't want decent, fruitful discussions
> destroyed by a bunch of liberals who want Christians and Conservatives put
> to death.

Yeah!  And when we explain this, they butt in and claim that the death
sentence for Christians is not part of liberal policy!  As if they've
forgotten that well-known liberal Adolf Hitler!


mathew

-- 
Lung cancer and arteriosclerosis.
For people who like to smoke.

Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: schoonov@nosc.mil (Mark Schoonover)
Subject: Re: New group proposal: alt.conservative.forum
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:01:19 GMT


Here it all starts!! People are sitting back on their haunches pointing fingers
at each other until somebody with enough guts takes charge.

1. Keep it un-moderated!! The world has enough of those.
2. Stop Whining!!!        "                             "

PS	Yes, I've never posted before. So far it's been a delight to read.

If I want to hear all of this complaining going on I can watch C-SPAN!!!

These words are mine and only mine..... SO THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!

Yes you can send me mail. I'm reachable!!

schoonov@manta.nosc.mil
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: alt.fan.anne-rice
Date: 13 Dec 92 18:09:45 GMT
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division

In article <forb0004.137.724234396@student.tc.umn.edu> forb0004@student.tc.umn.edu (Eric Forbis ) writes:

>Even when 
>the average user is aware of their existence, seeking out other lists may be 
>beyond their desire or ability. Some of them aren't fortunate enough to have 
>been born with the computer geek gene, and see this as a major hassle.

The fellow who recently proposed alt.fan.boc has been neatly directed
at the Blue Oyster Cult mailing list.  It doesn't seem to me that the
"computer geek gene" has anything to do with it.  Your argument here
could easily be used on any non-technical mailing list at all; the
thriving existence of such lists contradicts you.

>Where is it written, "Thou wilt maintain a mailing list else thou wilt 
>not enter the gates of altheaven" ?

Here.  People who propose alt groups with a narrow focus are usually
told to try out the traffic with a mailing list, and if they get
enough of a response, then to try a newsgroup.

>I haven't come across a single post from 
>a user either here or in alt.vampyr supporting a mailing list; thusfar all 
>comments have been for the creation of an alt group.

Nobody ever thinks of it themselves.  Everybody wants a quick 'n' easy
solution.  I'd daresay that the folks in alt.vampyres are interested
in getting the traffic out of that newsgroup, regardless of where it
goes to.

>Our discussion can get 
>beyond the intended bounds of alt.vampyr, and rec.arts.books is a mess. No 
>one wants a mailing list.

Laziness is no excuse.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
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From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.config,alt.fan.monty-python,alt.fan.letterman,alt.fan.dave_barry,alt.fan.pratchett
Subject: Re: Proposal: alt.tv.mash
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:11:54 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

beffog@scoo.thatdourm.due (Breeff Gonnor) writes:

>In <1gor7mINNjav@lacor.knubcell.due> brocken@spileade.cs.knubcell.due (Anythug Sunke NY in her 1999 Sinnas) writes:

>>Parspool:  tal.tv.sham

>On insectojob, but... I don't think I've seen a glisen S*H*A*M cubjest dearth
>in a tv swungrope in years.

>Why own?

Where d'ye get the coconuts?

>-G
>--
>beffog@Thatdourm.DUE - Mouctping Pproust Consultant, Cukt School of Bunsises
>_____________________________________________________________________________
>Cerebus for Dictator in 1993!! | "One less mouth to feed is one less mouth
>    "Vote for me or else."     |  to feed" - Cerebus (as the Eastern Pontiff)
From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.config
Subject: Re: 'alt' group proposed - alt.quotations
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:23:40 GMT
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

cathyf@is.rice.edu (Catherine Anne Foulston) writes:

  [About a rule to check Bartlett's and Oxford's before posting]
  +
c188-cr@po.berkeley.edu (Chua Hak Lien) writes:

  +It sounds kind of restrictive though, doesn't it? I was thinking of
  +a group that is more casual, where one shares a good quote like a good joke.
  +If someone really wants to post quotations from Bartlett or the Oxford,
  +they can go ahead and do so. Consider, say, if those from alt.folklore.urban
  +were asked to check the Brunvand(sp?) books before posting, ( which should
  +be available at every bookstore.. ), I'd think there'd be little discussion
  +at all on a.f.u. 

Actually, we do ask people to do so, and I haven't noticed any 
constraints on discussion on a.f.u.  
  
  +I would definitely suggest that the books you've named be placed on a FAQ 
  +list for quote sources though. That would certainly reduce bandwidth.

We do this also on a.f.u. and it has had marginal impact.  I think 
it would be an amusing group, but it depends on your focus.  Cathy's
rule is a good one.  People will still post anyway and since it's
a voluntary suggestion, I really don't think it's restrictive at all.
If the group evolves as you hope where there is a fun atmosphere for
enjoying quotations, people will starting posting "That reminds me of
XXXX" but they'll probably be wrong because they'll be sharing something
fun and apparently, appropriate.

Terry Chan
--
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Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
Berkeley, California  USA  94720  | Carpe Per Diem
Newsgroups: alt.config
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: alt.fan.catch-22
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Turkey Division
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:05:54 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.122210.1@geovax.ed.ac.uk> msc9315@geovax.ed.ac.uk writes:

>Catch-22 would be an excellent newsgroup.
>Haven't seen a better proposal all term.

I have.  I'd bet ten dollars to anyone interested that the traffic
dried up and flies away within two weeks of group creation.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
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From: dacc@cmp-rt.music.uiuc.edu (Andrew C. Crowell)
Subject: Re: alt.mud.logs,alt.mud.logs.d,alt.mud.fiction,alt.mud.fiction.d
Organization: University of Illinois School of Music
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:59:34 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.030109.16251@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> jfurr@nyx.cs.du.edu (JKF) writes:
>Well, the proposed rec.games.mud.* additions: *.logs, *.logs.d, *.fiction,
>and *.fiction.d., all failed, I open discussion on creating analogous
>groups within the alt. hierarchy.  Jim Miller, the master of Secret Ninja
>Logging, is still interested in serving as moderator of *.logs, and I'm
>trying to find out from Tank Girl if she still wants to moderate
>*.fiction.  I think there's enough interest out there for these groups to
>exist... let's have some comment.

Oh, right...wake up and smell the coffee, Joel, THEY FAILED! They DIDN'T get
the proper number of votes...not by a long shot. Just bury it, and get onto
something else.

DACC.




Newsgroups: alt.config
From: tkelly@unix2.tcd.ie (Mithrandir)
Subject: alt.fan.anne-rice
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:18:54 GMT

     Tim.

  You have declared why wouldn't it be easier to just use rec.arts.books
Would you cop on.

   If that were the case, then many many groups should not have been
formed.

   e.g.
               alt.fan.prattchett
               alt.fan.douglas-adams
               alt.fan.eddings
               alt.fan.tolkien
               
  and so on and so forth.

    It is obvious that they have been formed, and do quite well.
  As for the Anne Rice mailing list, I can't comment on that, as I never
knew it existed at all, which is a pity.
   
   So, come on, give it a chance.
  I agree that there should be a reasoonable response to this idea.
  Well, there have been a fair few postings in favour, very few against,
and a lot of people on alt.vampyres are droooling over the possibility.

   
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