HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Language scripts and 7.1
Keywords: WorldScript, System 7.1, Hebrew
From: wgentry@netlink.cts.com (William Gentry)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 15:35:37 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jay Elmore) writes:

> 
> Okay, I decided to see how this new "world-ready" System 7.1 would work. I
> downloaded the Install 1 disk for Hebrew-language System 7.0.1 and copied
> the fonts, script, and keyboard layout into my System Folder. When I
> restared, I got the keyboard menu, but the last two key layouts (displayed
> in a Hebrew-language font, which I can't read) were greyed out. When I
> checked the Numbers and Time & Date control panels; only the U.S. options
> were immediately available.
> 
> Did I miss sonething? Is there some extension (similar to KanjiTalk) that
> Hebrew System 7 needs to function properly? Should I bother getting the
> System 7.1 Japanese language (which is what I _really_ want anyway) or is
> it possible for me to install 7.1 over my Japanese 6.0.7 disk and expect
> it to work? (I have a copy of GomTalk, but I haven't installed it...I want
> to know about KanjiTalk 7 and the TrueType kanji fonts Japanese 7.1 is
> supposed to have!)
> 
> Someone posted something about a WorldScript I and II extension not being
> provided. Did I not get a complete, WorldScript capable System 7.1?
> 
> Help!
> 
> Jay (=


You will need WorldScript II to use Japanese (in addition to the script 
file). WorldScript I is needed for Hebrew. Apple hasn't gotten around to 
distributing these files as yet. Hopefully they will be availble soon as 
language packs. Once they are distributed, System 7.1 will be able to use 
the language properly, provided you have an application which supports 
the technology such as the soon to be released v.3.4.x of Nisus.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: anderson@mayo.edu (Alfred I. Anderson)
Subject: How to exchange VOICE with PCs and Suns
Organization: Mayo Foundation
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 23:00:32 GMT

Has anyone found a way to exhange a Voice file with a PC (Windows 3.1) and/
or a SUN?  Looking for common file formats?  Or ability to exchange voice 
between the three platforms.

I have NO leads right now.  Have you heard of a way?

Alfred
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Alfred Anderson                Internet:    anderson@Mayo.edu
Mayo Foundation - Rochester MN 55905
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From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Type 1s with 7.1?
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:29:17 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system

In article <ferch.721292510@swiss.ucs.ubc.ca>, ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
wrote:
> 
> >System 7.1 font management won't let the user pull out fonts from the
> >Fonts folder if programs other than the finder are active/open. For
> >users who have many fonts and need to close some of them some of the
> >time, a suitcase type utility still has an advantage.
> 
> That was the first thing I tried with 7.1 and you most certainly can add
> or remove fonts from the fonts folder while other programs are running.
> You just have to quit and relaunch your applications for the font folder
> changes to be reflected in the Font menu. 

That is true for adding fonts.  However, you can't remove fonts from the
folder while any applications are running.

> I've heard claim that Suitcase II will allow you to open and close font
> files and the changes will be reflected in application Font menus without
> quitting and relaunching. However, I have not been able to get this to
> happen using SuitCase II 1.2.12. I find that I still have to quit and
> relaunch an application before its font menu reflects any changes in the
> fonts opened by Suitcase. 

That is because applications construct the Font menu only once--upon
initilialization when they are launched.

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From: hue@pro-freedom.cts.com (Scott Hudziak)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Help: renaming HD icon on PB
Date: 7 Nov 92 07:35:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: pro-free.1992Nov7.003534.3299
Organization: ProLine [pro-freedom] AppleVan (Apple UG of Vancouver, WA)


 The icon stubbornly holds onto the name, "Macintosh
MC> HD"
 
___Unrenameable files/folder/apps usually have the system bit checked. If
you have resedit (maybe another utility also) get info on the HD, and
uncheck the 'system' checkbox.
 
-and i mean to get info from the file menu in resedit.

hue

ProLine:  hue@pro-freedom
Internet: hue@pro-freedom.cts.com
UUCP:     crash!pro-freedom!hue
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jenkinsj@blowfish.taligent.com (John H. Jenkins)
Subject: Re: TextEdit, International Scripts and others....
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Taligent, Inc.
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:03:47 GMT

In article <k.vikor-101192123745@mac31.sms.uib.no>, k.vikor@alf.uib.no
(Knut S. Vikor) wrote:
> 
> In article <jenkinsj-091192085112@tseng.taligent.com>,
> jenkinsj@blowfish.taligent.com (John H. Jenkins) wrote:
> > 
> > Nisus gives every appearance of rigidly using the Script Manager.  I
> > have never had any problems in handling any of the nasty non-Roman
> > scripts with it:  Hebrew, Chinese, Japanese, and so on. 

> 	   Standard Nisus (3.05) does *not* handle Arabic. Like many word
> processors (MS Word), it will display the Arabic, but does not allow
> editing the text once typed. E.g. a full sentence is considered a
single
> word, and the cursor does not know where it is, mixing up
left-to-right and
> right-to-left directions. There is, however, a special version, Nisus
> International, that does accept non-European scripts and adds some
features
> to handle them. It costs about $450, no rebates (and is copy protected
with
> a dongle).

Weird.  Nisus 3.06 works fine with Hebrew, which is also right-to-left
(to the extent that I'm competent to test it, at least).  I wonder why
it has problems with Arabic.  


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: peter@ml.csiro.au (Peter Campbell)
Subject: Can't open Chooser unless an application is open.
Organization: CSIRO Marine Labs, Hobart TAS, Australia
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 00:12:51 GMT

Has anyone ever seen this behaviour.  On a IIsi running Tuned-up 7.0.1,
whenever I open the Chooser with no applications open I see the window 
outline open and then immediately close again.  If there is an application 
open, it works.

Any ideas?

Peter Campbell        peter@ml.csiro.au
CSIRO Marine Labs, Hobart, Australia
From: tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: When it comes to the crunch, HD Utils don't cut it
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:03:39 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.2.12

Over the years I've seen a lot of whacky hard disk
problems and in my experience, if they're nasty the
usual symptom is "the hard disk isn't there". By and
large, all the hard disk gizmos around basically do
the same thing... check the SCSI chain using the
same commands and then try to mount anything they
see. Since a bad problem generally means they don't
see anything, they don't do you any good.

I have access to practically every utility program
for Macs ever seen (borrowing from friends and
contacts in a crisis) and it's pretty well always the
same story.

They'll recover an occasional lost file or fix errors
that you've never noticed, but when something serious
happens, you might as well use SCSI probe as Norton's.

Any comments?

Tonio

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.wanted,tamu.micro.mac
From: raunn@cs.tamu.edu (Raun D Nohavitza)
Subject: Looking for Japanese Language Software
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Distribution: comp.sys.mac,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mac.apps,tamu.micro.mac
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:17:25 GMT

I am interested in getting my hands on some Japanese language
software. I've looked around in my area, but no one seems to
have anything like this. Please e-mail me if you know of or have
any software that assists learning the Japanese language.

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' )_)		    )			-me
 / ) __.  . . __   (   "Um, sorry for the inconvenience."  _________________
/ (_(_/|_(_/_/) )_  )			-God              |raunn@cs.tamu.edu
From: werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.announce
Subject: version 3.5 of anti-viral announced
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.misc
Date: 11 Nov 1992 20:11:25 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
Summary: you can FTP the full (fluffy) PR-statement from RASCAL


FTPable press release:
	I've received a PR statement from Symantec announcing version 3.5
	of their SAM anti-virus product.  I archived it FTPably on
	RASCAL.ICS.UTEXAS.EDU as file

		mac/virus-catchers/SAM/SAM_3.5_pr

	Enclosed below (most of) the information 'sans fluff':


NEW FEATURES include: scanning compressed files, the ability to schedule
	scans, new improved interface, automatic installation, network
	installation capabilities for site licensees and 10 pack customers.
 
 
ADDITIONAL INFORMATION can be obtained from:
 
(to subscribe to Symantec Antivirus Support Services)
	 call 1-800-428-6800.

(existing antivirus support services)
	24 hour Virus Newsline: (310) 828-5344
	24-hour Virus Faxline: (800) 554-4403
	down-loadable virus definitions from the
	Symantec BBS	(408) 973-9598 (2400 baud)
		or	(408) 973-9834 (9600 baud)
	The downloadable virus definitions are also available on
	CompuServe, America Online and AppleLink.

 
Pricing and Availability:
	available immediately, suggested retail price of $99.
	Upgrades are available for $24, plus $8 S&H.
	10-pack suggested retail price of $759.
 
Symantec Corporation hs offices in the US, Canada, Australia and Europe.
Information on the company and its products can be obtained by calling

	 (800) 441-7234 toll-free, or (408) 252-3570.
From: werner@rascal.ics.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.announce
Subject: bug/problem: NCSA-Telnet 2.5 using SLIP
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 12 Nov 1992 00:17:55 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu
Summary: I had invited a "definitive statement" from our friends at NCSA


	on Nov 6, Basil Duval <duval@elpp1.epfl.ch> posted to
	comp.sys.mac.comm with Subject:

	    "Re: problem with NCSA-telnet 2.5 using SLIP"

	about a problem he was impatient to see fixed.

	I invited our hard-working friends at NCSA to provide me
	with a status update for posting in the CSMA-forum;
	here it is:

|| Thanks for the report. I will forward it to our Mac Telnet
|| developers. Here is the information we send to users
|| who contact mactelnet about this problem:
|| 
|| This version is the first release to support serial SLIP 
|| connections. There are known problems with the SLIP 
|| feature. I received this information recently from one
|| of the developers:
|| 
||         Unfortunately, telnet v2.5 SLIP  does not seem to work for
||         various reasons.  But, the Think C v2.5B is known to work in
||         many cases (with DecStations and CISCO boxes ...).  So, you
||         might want to use v2.5B until v2.6 is ready.
|| 
||         The Think C version 2.5B is still available by anonymous ftp from
||         "bert.cs.byu.edu" (128.187.2.20) in the file/directory:
|| 
||                 /NCSA_Telnet/ThinkC/Telnet2.5B.sit.hqx
|| 
|| Bridget Neu            mactelnet@ncsa.uiuc.edu
|| NCSA - Software Development Group
|| University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign


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| werner@cs.utexas.edu |  ..!uunet!cs.utexas.edu!werner | werner@UTXVM.bitnet |
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From: mha@baka.ithaca.ny.us (Mark Anbinder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.announce
Subject: Apple Toll-Free TDD Line (for Deaf and Hearing-Impaired)
Followup-To: poster
Date: 13 Nov 1992 17:49:14 -0600
Organization: BAKA Computers Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



       [ RELEASED AT 8:30 AM, EST, FRIDAY, NOVEMBER 13, 1992. ]
 

Contact:		     Ylonda Davis
			 Apple Computer, Inc.
			    (408) 974-5193
 
 
		     Apple Offers Toll-Free Line
		  For the Deaf and Hearing-Impaired
 
CUPERTINO, California--November 13, 1992--Apple Computer, Inc. today
announced that it has installed Telecommunications Device for the
Deaf (TDD) software to provide its deaf and hearing-impaired
customers with access to the company's Customer Assistance Center.
The center provides customers with a source for sales information,
such as product specifications, as well as general customer
information.
     Using the new toll-free line, deaf and hearing-impaired customers
simply leave their name, phone number, and a short description of
their questions, and an Apple Customer Assistance Center specialist
responds to their call within one business day.  The Apple TDD toll-free
line is not designed to be a source for technical assistance.
     Previously, Apple took calls from deaf and hearing-impaired
individuals through the California Relay System (CRS).  While the CRS
provides deaf and hearing-impaired individuals with access to the
Apple Customer Assistance Center, calls relayed through a third-party
can be time-consuming. Studies also show that about 40 percent of the
context of a conversation is lost through a relay call.  By providing
TDD assistance, the Customer Assistance Center is able to be more
responsive to the deaf and hearing-impaired community, which consists
of about 24 million people in the United States.
     The Customer Assistance Center TDD lines are available 24 hours a
day, seven days a week, including holidays, at 1-800-TDD-MAC3
(1-800-833-6223). The hours of operation for specialists handling TDD
calls are Monday through Friday, 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. Pacific time.
 
 
-30-
 
 
Apple, and the Apple logo are trademarks of Apple Computer, Inc.
 
END

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: Kim Holburn <kim@csc.canberra.edu.au>
Subject: Re: MacTCP installation problem
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A71F02D8FF0105C3@taiji.canberra.edu.au>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 5 Nov 92 00:56:56 GMT
Organization: University of Canberra
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 05:42:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct30.154541.20171@scott.skidmore.edu> Leo D. Geoffrion,
ldg@scott.skidmore.edu writes:
>I'm trying to install version 1.1 on a Mac LCII with 4 MB RAM, running
>system 7.0.1 with Tune-up 1.1.1 in place.  The installation appears to
>go just fine, but the MacTCP control panel resource refuses to come up
>properly.   When I open it, the upper window shows no icons (instead
>of the usual LocalTalk icon).  All network applications, such as
>Eudora and NCSA Telnet, fail to operate, complaining that MacTCP is
>not working properly.  

I had the same problem. I too have installed many many copies of MacTCP.
I have only seen this once but it is very exasperating. I even talked to
Apple Technical Support without any benefit. Eventually I figured out how
to fix it. I zapped the PRAM. I tried the apple recommended method -
holding down half the keyboard with your toes and restarting your system
with your nose. Maybe it works but I'm still not sure, it never says "Do
you really, really, really want to zap the PRAM?" I used a nifty cdev
from sumex called zap 1.0. After zapping the PRAM you have to turn
appletalk back on, etc. and viola you get a list of network devices in
MacTCP. 

The MacTCP 1.1.1 buglist mentions this problem. It says something like:
the icons for networks devices doesn't disappear or something like it. It
may not happen with MacTCP 1.1.1

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From: mike@rice.edu (Michael L. Quillin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: SLIP problems
Date: 12 Nov 92 03:12:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: keckiris.mike.721537966
Organization: Rice University

rjs@citi.umich.edu (Robert J. Skrobola) writes:

>I've got VT adminslip set up with 0.0.0.0 for a
>gateway and ...

There's your problem.  Find out the IP address of your nameserver/gateway
from your system administrator and plug that in instead of 0.0.0.0.  Use
the same number for the nameserver and gateway (you will have to temporarily
put mactcp on manual addressing to change one of these).  After that, let
it rip.

Mike

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From: gweil@ibeam.intel.com (Garry A. Weil)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: HELP!! ZTerm: unix->mac ok, mac->unix not ok
Summary: Word document uploaded to unix no good
Keywords: ZTerm Zmodem MS-WORD
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:57:42 GMT
Organization: MultiMedia Software Technology Group, Intel Corp.

What did I do wrong? Last night before leaving work, I saved a Word for 
Windows 2.0 document in Mac Word 4.0 format to a drive NFS'ed to a Sun.

Later that evening, I downloaded it to my Mac. Launched Word and editted the 
file without a problem. Alot of editting!! So then I uploaded it back to the 
Sun. This was all done using Zmodem protocols.

This morning I tried to import the file into Word for Windows, NOT! It 
complained that this was not in Mac Word 4.0 format! Attempts to read this 
file with Macs on the network also complain about this file's format.

Zterm is set to 'Smart MacBinary'. When it downloaded to my Mac, it used 
binary transfer. When it uploaded it to the Sun, it used MacBinary. Maybe I 
should have overridden this setting???

What can I do in the future to prevent this problem?
Can I do anything now with this file to recover my data?

!! Please no flames about DOS/Windows/PCs. When I have a choice, I use a 
Mac. When at work I have no choice...

Please respond by email.

Garry
----------
Garry Weil

gweil@ibeam.intel.com
gweil@garry.ht.intel.com
garry_weil@htccm2.ht.intel.com
uunet!intelhf!ibeam!gweil
From: myke@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu (Michael Dautermann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: mac.archive has mail access Re: Looking for MAC-related anon uucp sites
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.comm
Date: 5 Nov 1992 05:52:37 -0500
Organization: We're from the government, ma'am
Distribution: na
Expires: 12/15/92
NNTP-Posting-Host: terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu
Summary: mac.archive has a mail server...
Keywords: mail, ftp, archive, mac, wow

In article <53oDTB1w165w@gizmonic.UUCP> bm155@freenet.cleveland.edu writes:
>
>Can anyone out there suggest some good anon uucp archive sites?
>Just lost my FTP access, so this is all I have. Please email
>any replies and if there is enough response I will post a summary.

  
Hey Shane (and other non-direct-Internet/ftp-endowed folks)...
 
  I'm not sure if you heard, but Mac.Archive.Umich.Edu has a 
mail server on-line and ready to serve YOU!  It is extremely easy to 
learn and use. To start off using it, send the command "help" in
the mail text (not the subject) to the address "mac@mac.archive.umich.edu".

	Tell your Macintosh friends (who don't have UseNet access, but who can
get e-mail to the Internet somehow) about mac.archive's mail server.
You can also tell them about our new files mailing list (these are
the same lists that appear in comp.sys.mac.digest).  To get on the 
mailing list, you can send me a message at 
'mac-recent-request@mac.archive.umich.edu'.

Thanks!



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: lim@merlion.CWRU.Edu (Hock Koon Lim)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
Subject: Re: MacTCP installation problem
Date: 5 Nov 1992 19:15:48 GMT
Organization: Information Network Services, Case Western Reserve
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lim@po.CWRU.Edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: merlion.ins.cwru.edu


In article <1992Nov5.054254.9322@csc.canberra.edu.au>, Kim Holburn <kim@csc.canberra.edu.au> writes:

$ 
$ The MacTCP 1.1.1 buglist mentions this problem. It says something like:
$ the icons for networks devices doesn't disappear or something like it. It
$ may not happen with MacTCP 1.1.1
$ 

    Can anyone post the MacTCP 1.1.1 buglist?

Thanks,

-- 
Hock-Koon Lim, Information Network services
Case Western Reserve University; Cleveland, Ohio, USA  44106   
(216) 368-2982        lim@ins.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: kseethar@cs.ulowell.edu (Krishnan Seetharaman)
Subject: Help - Need New drivers for Everex Ethernet Card ...
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:56:11 GMT

Hi

I need the new version of the driver for the Everex Ethernet card,
version 2.6, to run under Release 7. I called them and it takes ages 
before any human comes on the line! They said I can download it thro
a Bulletin board. The problem is I dont have access to a Mac with a
Modem. So if anyone has the driver or if u know of a ftp site from
where I can ftp, please let me know. 

Thanks very much
-ks 

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Snail-mail : Department of Computer Science, UMass/Lowell, Lowell, MA 01854
"All generalizations are dangerous, even this one" - Alexandre Dumas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.comm
From: mike@rice.edu (Michael L. Quillin)
Subject: FaxSTF for sale
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:05:59 GMT

I have an extra copy of FaxSTF for sale.  I would
like to get $30 for it, but will accept other offers.

If you are interested, mail mike@rice.edu.


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