From: fierkelab@bchm.biochem.duke.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball.fantasy
Subject: Re: More trade ideas
Date: 28 Jan 93 01:17:09 GMT
Organization: Biochemistry

In article <kbanaian.211.0@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu>
kbanaian@bernard.pitzer.claremont.edu (King Banaian) writes:
>In article <44066@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> demers@cs.ucsd.edu (David DeMers) writes:
>
>>I probably have the second or third strongest winter roster.  
>>The league is NL only; BA, SLG, R+RBI, SB-CS; ERA, WHIP, 2W-L, S.
>>
>>I have Rijo $26, Barnes $1, Sid Fernandez $8, Harnisch $2,
>>Wild Thing $18, Beck $1 and Assenmacher $7 for pitching;
>>Oliver $4, Berryhill $5, Karros $10, Colbrunn $10, Pena $5,
>>Morandini $1, Dunston $15, Gant $17, Luis Gonzalez $5, Daryl
>>Boston $3, Mark Leonard $1,
>>and the rights to Pedro Martinez (LA) for $1 in 1993, $10 1994. 
>>
>>So, starting pitching is good, relief is good, undervalued players
>>everywhere but a lot of parttimers (Morandini, Colbrunn, Boston)
>>and a couple of non-keepers.
>>
>>In the auction will be only Mark Grace & stiffs at 1B (well,
>>Conine & Destrade, but who will get the most playing time?),
>Conine can go into the outfield, with Destrade only at 1B.  If Conine can 
>qualify later at OF, he's an exceptional choice IMO.

Well, I wouldn't go crazy over Conine (although I've got him), but he should be
a useful spare part.  I just don't think there will be much offense in Miami
next season, so Conine won't have many R or RBI.  Destrade may be somewhat
better, but "supposedly" he became a free-swinger in Japan.  Something about
pitchers not coming in to gaijin.  Take that for what it's worth.  I don't know
the dimensions of the park yet, but the climate/altitude will make it tougher
for HR, regardless of dimensions.  Think St Louis in the summer, and add heat
and humidity.  You'll need a short porch somewhere in the Orange Bowl? Joe
Robbie Stadium? to overcome that effect.  Anyhow, I think that these guys may
be useful spare parts, but not much more for your team.  Colbrunn may be just
as good a keeper here.  At least he'll have DeShields on in front of him.


>>If I keep Rijo and Dunston, I'm down to $121 left, but have a 
>>helluva starting rotation and all my middle infield.  
>>
>You can have that rotation anyways, since pitchers are plentiful.  So keep 
>Dunston and pray very hard that he smartens up and goes to the OF.

I don't understand this advice.  If I recall correctly, Dunston STUNK the last
two seasons as a SS (with the bat, and before the injury.. let's see, one year
with OK average, some power, one year with even less average, and always an
AWFUL OBP, which will cut down on his runs  Will get stats later, post
tomorrow), so why on earth would you want his bat in the OF?  Sell him, trade
him, or cut him, but for God's sake, don't KEEP him!  Especially since he's
just as likely to be traded out of Wrigley Field as he is to become an OF. 
Among the teams that could use help (yes, they might be desperate enough to
trade for Dunston) at SS in the NL are Houston and Miami (esp. if Weiss wins
arbitration).  If Dunston goes to either one of these teams, (yes, iffy, but
possible), then you've got the second incarnation of Andres Thomas.  And if
Dunston goes to the AL, he does you no good anyhow.
>
>>So, I'm thinking of trying to trade some $1 players
>>for big sticks.  I've offered Barnes, Morandini and Berryhill
>>for Cordero at $10 and Dykstra at $32.  Dykstra is worth about
>>his salary and Cordero is probably worth $15; Barnes and 
>>Morandini are undervalued but not by that much.  Berryhill is
>>overpriced at $5, IMO.  He wants Oliver instead of Berryhill,
>>and I think I'm going to take it.
>>

Well, I wouldn't want Berryhill as my catcher either.  But Cordero could be a
very good shortstop for a long time to come, Dykstra would help your outfield,
and you're not giving up too much else.  If I thought I could draft a real
catcher (instead of a Berryhill-like catcher), then I'd do the deal.  Oliver
isn't that great, IMO, and it may be possible to replace him.

>>The Larry Walker deal is still in negotiation.  I countered
>>with Pena and Dunston for Walker (at $15, but for 1993 only),
>>and wants to add Morandini and Harnisch for Ken Hill at $3.
>>I think Hill & Harnisch are a wash, and don't want to give
>>up Pena, Dunston AND Morandini for Walker.  There just aren't
>>that many MIs in the auction, and I'd like to not have to spend
>>$30 for Biggio...  But Walker is a big bat with speed...
>>probably worth about $30-$35 in our league.
>
>But Biggio will return $20 in a down year.  And you obviously have inflation 
>big time.  I'd say this is contingent on getting Cordero in the other deal.  
>If you do make that trade, then OK this one, you have solidified the 
>outfield and really only have to sign Biggio and a third MI.

If I were you, I'd make the Pena-Dunston-Walker trade in a heartbeat!  (see
reasons above)  Of course, that means you have to draft Biggio.  But I'd try to
stay away from the second deal, if I could.  I like Harnisch more than Hill.
Harnisch should be the Astros' #3 pitcher this season.  That means he'll
usually match up against other team's #3 pitchers, which should give him a
couple of extra wins (except against the Braves;)).  Plus, he pitches in the
Astrodome.  Plus, because of the "balanced schedule", he won't see the NL West
as often as he used to. In fact, the Astros play 84 games against the NL Least,
while they only play 78 games against the West.  More games against the mighty
Mets, Pirates and Marlins, less games against the Braves, Reds, Padres and
Rockies. (No, I don't think the Rockies are good, but I do think their park may
be prone to the gopherball.)  These things could add up to a moderately large
bonus for Harnisch against Hill, although overall ability may be similar.

Anyhow, that's my opinion, for what it's worth.

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