HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jepstein@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Cheez Whizard)
Subject: Re: 10.20.89??
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 20:12:50 GMT

Here's my input on the 10/20/89 show...

ST801423@brownvm.brown.edu writes:
>
>      set I: Dog Log, Yamar, Hole, Harpua-> Col. Forbin-> Mockingbird,
>             Oh-ke-pah, Reba, Antelope.
>      Set II: I didn't know, AC/DC, Donna Lee, Split Open, Harry Hood, Jam,
>              Hole, Slave to the Traffic Light, Antelope(????)
>     Set III: No Dogs Allowed, Walk Away, Dinner-Movie, La Grange
>   Totally Random: Swing Low Sweet Chariot, Rocky Top, Tiela, Divided Sky
>
In article <1992Nov14.190810.2392@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> fromm@rock.enet.dec.com writes:
>
>well, i have one tape (no set number) labeled 10/20/89 @ the Front, and here's
>how it goes (actually i posted this once before)
>
>Harpua -> Fluffhead -> Colonel Forbin -> Mockingbird, YEM -> Vocal Jam, Oh Kee
>Pa, Reba, Divided Sky, Golgi, Antelope, No Dogs Allowed, Walk Away, Dinner +
>Movie


 I have 2 tapes, one labelled set I, and the other of course labelled
 set II. The first tape, is as follows, and includes part of what is
 labelled as set II:
 
I:   Harpua -> Budle of Joy -> Colonel Forbin's Ascent -> Famous Mockingbird,
     You Enjoy Myself, Oh Kee Pa Ceremony, Reba, Divided Sky,
     Golgi Apparatus, Run Like An Antelope
II:  No Dogs Allowed, Walk Away, Dinner And A Movie 

 The second tape, set II, is like this:

II:  I Didn't Know, AC/DC Bag, Donna Lee, Split Open And Melt, Harry Hood,
     Swing Low Sweet Chariot, In A Hole
enc: La Grange, Slave To The Traffic Light

with Grippo & Remington on sax for most of these songs
and the Split Open and Melt with the "Take 2" thing.

I'm not sure if this helps or confuses, but I hope it does one of the
two.

- Jon

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Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "David H. Lyons" <dhlyons@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Anyone got a few crash-feet?
Reply-To: dhlyons@mailbox.syr.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:02:05 GMT

Hi there Phine Phreaks of the Phellowship!

       I was wondering if, perchance, possibly , maybe, someone out there who
is going to the Port Chester shows happens to have a few square feet of space
that I and my buddy could crash at.  We are gentle and trustworthy, and will
respect any wishes of yours.  It would be kindly appreciated to recieve any
sort of response.  (Please, please, wimper, wimper)  Thanks 4 listening.

     On other planes, the Phish dinner on the back of Junta looks scrumptous!

             Hoping, praying, and dancing....
                         David
                         dhlyons@mailbox.syr.edu
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From: "Timothy J. Dalton" <dalton@mtl.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: Soundboard taping
Reply-To: dalton@mtl.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:55:07 GMT


I have both an audience tape of 5/3/91 (If I remember the date properly)
done with neumanns and a sv255 dat and a full digital board of it.
(John, there is 1 other person allowed to plug in besides the 3
you listed).  Anyway, the board has no bass in it.  All the bass in 
the house sound came from Mike's onstage amplifier.  The board is nice,
clean and all, but is lacking *it*.  

For small venues, a good digital audience tape will be better than
the board mixes, except when a separate mixing board is used (like
colorado 90)...

	Tim

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From: ericbe@microsoft.com (Eric Berman)
Subject: Oh kee pa Ceremon-yet more trivia
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:26:18 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

More information about this, courtesy of my friend Bill:

Ding, well, almost.  You don't hang by your nipples, but by
flesh hooks through the fleshy part of your chest halfway
between your nipples and your shoulders.

There are two parts to the ceremony.  The first part is where a
smaller amount of flesh is hooked, then the celebrant pulls
back _slowly_ and leans against the pull of the hook on the
order of an hour or so.  Eventually the pull becomes too great
and the flesh is broken.

The second part is where the celebrant actually hangs from the
flesh hooks.  Yes, it goes on for hours.  Eventually you have
visions.  The flesh is not supposed to be broken.  I have
pictures.

Of course, there could be local variations on the theme. 
Golfing before the ceremony is optional.

bill


In article <1992Nov16.232435.25264@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> s166022@cc.gettysburg.edu writes:
>[>we were wondering about "The Oh Kee Pa Ceremony".  What is it  
>[>about?  Is it related to the Gamehendge story? 
>
>|I'm not sure about this, but I've heard that it is actually a  
>|self-mutilation/rite of passage ritual that involves the piercing of  
>|one's nipples and hanging oneself by said piercings.
>
>DING!! You are correct.  The Oh kee pa Ceremony is an ancient rite of  
>passage for young Mandan (Native American tribe) braves.  The  
>warriors would have to hang from these flesh hooks for a rather  
>extended period of time.  They then were lowered to the ground and  
>made to run away (still attached, of course) until the hooks were  
>pulled out of their flesh.  



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From: Corey Michael Shapiro <cmshapir@pear.wustl.edu>
Subject: Amy's Farm
Reply-To: cmshapir@pear.wustl.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:08:07 GMT


I as well would love iph one kind soul would trade for Amy's Farm. I wasn't 
here for the tree, so would appreciate any response.
Also, the Cornell show sounds phantabulous!!!! Is there anyway a tree could form for this one, and some lowly phans who weren't there could listen!
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Michael Hamish Bowman <MIBOWMAN@ccmail.sunysb.edu>
Subject: Stony Brook Gathering..
Reply-To: MIBOWMAN@ccmail.sunysb.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:05:45 GMT

Sorry to be wasting so much bandwidth with my post lately but I like to get
into things.. As the Fireside lounge does not serve food, I don't know if it 
would work out. But if you want to go there its just down the street from the 
gym where the concert is in the union.. So I guess Station Pizza it is.. Once 
again: make a left onto 25A at the end of Nicholl's Road. Go past the station 
and turn into the parking lot right after 'the park bench' on the right. It's 
kinda at the back. GREAT pizza.... Tell them Hamish sent you for a special 
smile. They are open till 1am-ish (hehehe) on Sat nights. See you in 43 hours!

    -Hamish  [Hay-mish]
     mibowman@ccmail.sunysb.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu
Subject: re: vinyl
Reply-To: dsteinbe@nmsu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:45:11 GMT

When Lawn Boy first came out on Rough Trade, there was a bit in the newsletter
about how it would be coming out on a lp for vinyl lovers.  I saw a copy once
in Baltimore.  I was tempted to buy it because that backcover looked so cool
blown up to fit the sleeve.

Did anyone else have trouble getting this album.  I was able to get the last
of the self-produced copies, so I had had it for six months before the album
ophishally came out, but I really wanted it on disc.  The only place that 
carried it was a store down in New Paltz.  I kept on calling down there and 
reserving copies, only to find that they had sold them to somebody else before
I arrived.  Finally, one time I talked them into selling me someone else's 
reserved copy.  (Yes, it was not nice, but it was a 45 mile drive and it was 
like my 5th trip or something.)  Ya see, there ARE advantages to the Electra
deal...

David "ZZYZX" Steinberg
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: Alan Sodoma <ajs@jloda.cci.com>
Subject: Re: extra Phish NYE tix - $50
Reply-To: ajs@jloda.cci.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:20:57 GMT

In article <1e3v8bINNllq@agate.berkeley.edu> you write:
|A lesson in reading carefully before you post a response!
|
|In article <1992Nov14.105555.11865@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> ajs@jloda.cci.com 
|writes:
|>I have 2 extras.  (Actually, I haven't gotten them in the mail yet).
|>$50 gets both of them.  That's what I paid for 'em.
|          ^^^^
|In article <1992Nov14.212059.17702@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> nitewing@well.sf.ca.us writes:
|>One, real obviously is someone recently posting about $50 NYE tix...
|>I'm not going to question that he really paid $50 for them, which is his
|>own fault, but there is NO WAY they should be resold here for more than
|>face! 
|
|Whoa, David!  Take a look again at what Al wrote - $50 for *two* tickets;
|that's *$25* each.  $25 is an entirely plausible amount for tickets ordered
|with a credit card; if Al is kind enough to offer these to folks on the net,
|there's no reason he should have to eat the service charges.  Obviously, Al
|is in no way trying to make a profit here; rather, he's trying to do someone
|a favor!
|

Oooops.  I missed the '2' in the subject line.  As can be seen by the
lower-case 'e' in extra.  
Anyway, I DID pay that much for them.  I got four tickets for $99.30!!
I just didn't feel like figuring out the exact amount!  :-)  I don't
scalp tickets at all.  And I'm glad to see that even non-net people do
to.  Good karma story coming!

It was Friday the 13th.  The place was Syracuse, NY.  I got out of work
at 4 to get out to Syracuse for a couple happy hour beers before the 
Springsteen show.  We got to the bar, met some people that we were
supposed to meet and proceeded to buy 2 pitchers of Killian's for $5!
Gotta love happy hour.  :-)  
It gets to be about 7:25.  The show starts at 7:30!  I say to Karen, 'Gee,
we ought to get movin'.'  She says, 'OK, let me go to the bathroom first.'
A couple minutes later she comes back and says 'Some girl in there is 
selling 8th row tix for $20!!'.
I think to myself, 'hmmmmm, we have tix about 5 sections back on the left
side, and man is that far back in the Carrier Dome!'.  So we go over to
her and she actually wants $25 for them.  Exactly face value, the tickets
look great, we take 'em.  
Now, what to do with ours?  Turns out nothing.  There were a bunch of
people trying to get rid of tickets outside the dome.  I couldn't
even get rid of them for $10 a piece.  Oh well, the 8th row tickets made
it all worthwhile.  Springsteen never fails to please.  Just like 
Phish!  <--OPC!  :-)


So the moral of the story is:  There are still nice people in the world
and it costs $99.30 for $80 worth of Phish NYE tickets.  :-(

Al Sodoma

Shelly, please get in touch with me.  Thanks.



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From: twent@wam.umd.edu (Anthony J. Went)
Subject: a few thoughts on Trey's guitar, from the man who built it
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:40:31 GMT

I wrote a letter to Trey this summer, and in it I asked about the constuction
of his Paul Languedoc guitars.  I was really excited when a few weeks ago a
reply appeared in my mailbox!  Trey didn't say anything earth-shattering, but
Paul included a few words about the guitars:


Tony,

     Thanks for your interest.  There is no big mystery about the construction
of Trey's guitar (except the secret "Sonic Enhancer").  It is _not_ a semi-
hollow body, but a true hollow body, built the same way those big arch-top jazz
guitars were built, but, of course, much smaller.  No one builds guitars that
way because they tend to feed back at any volume to speak of, but Trey likes
that because he can hold any note he wants to (with careful muting of the other
strings) where most electric guitars would only feed back certain notes, and at
a much higher volume level.
     Incidentally, the woods used are European Curly maple for the top,
domestic curly maple for the neck, Ebony for the fretboard, tailpiece, etc.,
and Padauk for the body and sides.  Yes, Padauk is a rain-forest wood, and I
don't buy it anymore.

     Paul

[ed. note:  I don't know, but I'm guessing the part about the sonic enhancer
is a joke, and just meant to egg me on... anyone know anything different?]

Tony
-- 
Tony Went (twent@wam.umd.edu)                           University of Merryland
     "I'd like to hear my options so I can weigh them, what do you say?
      Five pounds, six pounds, seven pounds..."
					- Phish
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "............drift.......ing........." <D065@NEMOMUS>
Subject: has anyone heard of missouri?
Reply-To: D065@NEMOMUS
Organization: The Internet
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 05:40:42 GMT

hey all.

i've been passively reading the list for about a week now, and i've seen
much-o-much of mail talking about the east coast and a few about the
west coast -- but very little in betwen.  although i am not quite an
avid phish fan (i do not yet say 'phriends' or 'pholks' or any of those
other cute phiendish spellings) i am planning to go see phish in a
couple of weeks in st.louis.
.
so, basically, i suppose i am asking if there is anyone else on the list
from the roundabouts of missouri or anywhere close.  i am also intrigued
by the whole phish-obsession-cult thing-- having only observed such
severe addiction to watching males massage guitars with the grateful
dead..... so i was curious how much overlap there is of dead-heads and
phish-heads and what the two have in common/where they diverge.

mike.  (a slacker in rural missouri)
From: selegue@aries.scs.uiuc.edu (Thomas Selegue)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: whatever
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:30:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: aries.selegue.722194217
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana



    I thought it would never come to this. Here goes:

      Could somebody set me up with some tickets to the Saturday night
      Chicago show? I was suprised to find out that it sold out. I would
      really like to see this show and introduce some friends to live    
      Phish. Thanks !!!!!!

                                   Take care of your shoes,

                                           Tom
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: dalton@spot.Colorado.EDU (lizard man)
Subject: Re: aPhishioglideheadnados
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:49:32 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.165958.14277@galaxia.network23.com> justin@galaxia.network23.com (Justin Brierley) writes:
>Well, here's my 1% of a two dollar bill,
> 
> as to what to call ourselves
>
>     FLUFFHEADS!
> it's plain & simple & doesn't interfere with any other groups.
>


I have a great big mane of shoulder-length fluffy curls.

For the last few months, whenever i've seen people with either:

Phish Tshirts
Phish Bumperstickers
Phishy looks

i have shouted "Fluffhead!" at them or as i walk by said things like,
"Hey, Fluffheads" and eight times out of ten, despite their Phish logos
and general freaky appearances, and my big grin and smiling eyes and
fluffy hair, they give me dirty looks like i'm some kind of redneck
hippy-hating asshole.


So i guess a lot of people don't associate themselves with Fluffhead as
closely as you or i do.


But you can call me a fluffhead any day and i won't mind. or you can
call me the

--lizard man
-- 
---
"a woman wants an abortion not as she might want a Porsche or an ice
cream, but rather more as a trapped animal wants to gnaw off its leg."
--Frederica
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: rafael@cats.ucsc.edu (David Erik Konerding)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: oh kee pah->suzie greenberg
Date: 20 Nov 1992 16:46:35 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu



	After listening to oh kee pah->suzie on Stanford 4/18/92 I am inclined
to guess that perhaps these songs are joined together because Trey relates
the pain of Suzie with the pain of having large hooks placed into the skin
on his chest above his nipples.  But maybe not...

	Nevertheless, I think that version of OKP->Suzie is the most jamming
I've ever heard.  In addition, has anybody else with a low gen dub of that
tape noticed that Trey is laughing in the background during most of OKP?
I've heard that on the Lawn Boy tape, but since it was a studio album I
figured it wasn't too hard to dub a "laugh track" onto the song... isn't
it HARD to laugh when you're playing a complex precomposed song like OKP?

-- 
---
David Konerding						   rafael@cats.ucsc.edu
University of California, Santa Cruz
From: mmitchell@igc.apc.org (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Re: whatever
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:17:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Nov19.052009.17494@uvaarpa.v:-1873888855:cdp:1628700024:000:123
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!mmitchell    Nov 19 13:17:00 1992


  
>     man how can you all be soo damned happy,. <

 I'm happy! h[p, oops, happy, happy, and  I love it!
    
    -Brian
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: mkineiko@athena.mit.edu
Subject: net address' wanted
Reply-To: mkineiko@athena.mit.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:16:54 GMT

    Can anyone out there mail me the address for the dead net.  Also, is there a
Blues Traveler net.  If not does anyone out there have any Blues Traveler tapes
that they are willing to trade for Floyd, Dead or Zeppelin.  Sorry for using the
net for non-Phish purposes.  Please accept my humblest apologizes.
             - Matt
From: berkman@giane.cs.umass.edu (Neil Berkman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: drummer wanted (again)
Date: 13 Nov 92 18:29:19 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

Hey again,
Yesterday I posted for a friend who is re-forming his band, Hoobis Doobis,
which plays a lot of Phish covers.  I now have the text of the message he
wanted me to post and his phone # so you can call him:

   DRUMMER WANTED (for Amherst, MA area band)
   We've covered many Phish songs - need someone capable of
   drumming in the intense improv vein along the lines of
   "David Bowie," "Divided Sky," etc.  Call Tim at (413) 256-8115


Neil
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: "Stewart Patricia L." <stewapal@smtplink.barnard.columbia.edu>
Subject: I can't believe how many people wanted my Albany tix...
Reply-To: stewapal@smtplink.barnard.columbia.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:51:08 GMT

          I can't believe how many people wanted my Albany tickets and
          at such a late time.  I really thought it would be difficult
          to get them to someone over the course of 24 hours, but NO!
          I am sorry to all of you who called and left messages, but
          they were sold as of 4AM this morning to the man who took
          the initiative to "call me at any time" like I asked you
          all to!  I hope you find tickets as I realize now that it is
          possible to do so at the last minute (Maybe so, Maybe not,
          eh?).  I will see you all at Stony Brook-- I am so psyched!
          Is there a Phishnet gathering?  If so, where?  TOODLES!
                                         --Pat
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Albany 11-20 Sets
From: <ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 13:58:58 EST
Organization: Penn State University

I
Axcilla (new Trey)
All Things Reconsidered>
Suzi G
Rift
Sloth
Reba
Sparkle
Stash-way out!!!!
Lizards
Memories -accapella
I Walk The Line -mike- Johnny Cash classic
David Bowie
--86 Minutes--
II----------------------------------------
Chalkdust Touture
Fluffhead
Tube
Y.E.M.>vocal jam
Isn't Nearly Fast Enough For You
Dinner And A Movie
Harry Hood
Henrietta>Terrapin>Vacum>Fishmen Solo Tune??
ENCORES:
Sewer w/some guy -friend on vocals
Sweet Adeline accapela no PA
E2 Good Times,Bad Times - Led Zep
  around 100 + mins

Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
From: PDUMAS%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Subject: St. Mikes
Reply-To: PDUMAS%COLGATEU.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 14:43:40 GMT

Hey there!
Well, they're out... those new songs.   I think I'll get used to them...
except for the one called something like Too Fast For You.....(?)
Well, you know it.   I mean when Rift comes out, this will be the
tune to have little teeny-boppers listening to Phish.  This is the
one which will have every idiot flicking on their lighters during
the show.  It just doesn't seem very Phishy.... at all!
Well, they're rock stars now.... I should just shut up and let them
write what they want.
All in all, Bobby Gillespie and I had a great time.   I dropped down
for the language during Antelope..... everyone around me just stood
there.... I felt like such a weirdo.... I guess it hasn't caught on
everywhere.

See you soon,
Peace, love, happiness, and all that good stuff to you all

Peter
                High times, hard times
                Downtown Julie Brown
                -HELMET
From: Dina_Venezky
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: Albany, Mike's first band
Date: 16 Nov 1992 16:49:27 GMT
Organization: Brown University Geology
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: mac38.geo.brown.edu

 
I was wondering if someone would please post directions to the Albany show. Is
the halfmoon going to be a meeting place? 

I hope to see everyone there. 

Oh I was wondering if anyone, Shelly, knew when Mike started to play/was in his
first band? ( If this in an interview with Mike that I didn't read, sorry) I
was watching Better off Dead with some friends and we were discussing cheesy
eighth grade dances and my  friend said that she couldn't relate to the cheesy
eighth grade dance thing because Mike's band played at the only dance that they
had. I am assuming that Mike's band did not play cheesy dance/love tunes....

"....you see my brother got his arm caught in the microwave and had to be
rushed to the hospital and my grandmother, she droppped acid and hijacked a bus
full of, uh penguins so it's kind of a bad day....."

Better off Dead
From: rafael@cats.ucsc.edu (David Erik Konerding)
Newsgroups: rec.music.phish
Subject: re: Dixie Dregs post
Date: 19 Nov 92 23:31:58 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


	Heya... I hope the guy who posted the original Dixie Dregs message
is still reading this newsgroup... I lost your address along with the rest
of my mailbox, but I wanted to say:
I just picked up "Bring 'Em Back Alive" and "Divided we Stand" on your
recommendation and am listening to the live album right now.

	I never thought I'd be saying this, but I've finally heard a band
that is as tight, improvises as well, has music that's as original, or
masters their instruments as well as Phish.

	But the Dregs are such a band!  Their music has none of the humor
that Phish does, and this live album has no lyrics that I've heard so
far, but nonetheless, these guys are incredible.  I am KICKING myself for
missing them when they played the Catalyst last week (although I would have
failed a class if I had) because from this live disk I can tell I'm going
to be seeing these guys ANY time they play nearby.

	Coincidentally, from this first listen, I've noticed a few things:
Trey and Morse (the guitarist in the dregs) are, in my limited opinion,
about equally talented, although their styles are radically different.
I think that Mike's bass solos are INCREDIBLY like those of the the Dreg's
bass playing... the keyboardists rae also incredibly similar!  I'd be VERY
curious to hear from people in Phish or who know the band how much they
were affected by the Dregs.

	Also, it's great to hear so much *well* composed music played live.
What attracts me to Phish so much is how they play 10 minutes of precomposed
Reba without a single flaw and then bust into an incredible jam.  The Dregs
are similar- I'm just not as familiar with their studio music (in fact, I've
heard none of it) so I can't tell how much of it is composed, but they seem
to be doing it very similarly.


-- 
---
David Konerding						   rafael@cats.ucsc.edu
University of California, Santa Cruz