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Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

ISAM is not part of the standard HP Fortran product; it is available
as an optional third-party product.  I'm sorry, I don't have any
information on how to obtain it but your HP sales rep should be
able to help.

The Series 800 compiler will automatically link in libisamstub in
order to resolve references to ISAM routines unless you specify
-lisam to link in the real ISAM library.  The libisamstub routines
emit the error message you are getting about ISAM functionality.

You cannot use ISAM features in I/O statements unless you get the
ISAM library and use the -lisam flag.

This is not an official statement of the Hewlett-Packard Co.

Don Gourley
From: trn@warper.jhuapl.edu (Tony Nardo)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: ved and the osfLeft, osfUp,... keys
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:48:43 GMT

Does anyone know a way to force "ved" to use <Key>Left, <Key>Up, <Key>Down
and <Key> Right keys (instead of F30, F28, F32, and F34) in order to properly
handle the arrow keys from a remote X system?

The situation:
      -	HP 9000/730 (HP/UX 8.05) presents "ved" on the screen of a
	Sun Sparc II.  All attempts to use the arrow keys fail to produce
	any visible effects on the file being edited.
      -	xmodmap is called upon to remap the Left, Up, Down and Right keys
	to F30, F28, F32, F34, respectively.
      -	"ved", using the new key definitions, now properly translates the
	arrow keys.  However, all other xterm windows on the screen are now
	*unable* to use the arrow keys.

Inspecting the output of
	strings /usr/bin/X11/ved
shows, for example, osfLeft has:
	14 statements of the form osfLeft: <Key>Left,
	 1 statement  of the form osfLeft: 1004FF51 [which = <Key>Left], and
         1 statement  of the form osfLeft: F30
which seems to indicate that there are 16 possible "keysets" for ved.

What do I need to do to force ved to use one of the 15 sets of osf* definitions
which treat <Key>Left as the arrow key instead of the *one* set which uses F30?

(I've tried reading the manual, but the only documentation we have on ved
is limited to _HP Visual Editor: Getting Started_ and the ved(1) man page,
neither of which has the answer to my question.)
--
Tony Nardo,		   INET: trn@warper.jhuapl.edu, trn@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu
 Johns Hopkins Univ./APL   UUCP: {backbone!}mimsy!aplcomm!trn
From: R.Thirlby@lut.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: HP-UX comms mailing list
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:42:39 GMT
Reply-To: R.Thirlby@lut.ac.uk (Rob Thirlby)
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.

Loughborough and Stirling Universities in the UK have decided to create a 
mailing list for the discussion of HP-UX comms related matters of interest
to UK sites. 

The list is hp-comms@lut.ac.uk  with the usual convention of
hp-comms-request@lut.ac.uk  for the administrator.

Of particular interest will be the uk coloured books implementations and
OSI products but any form of networking will be discussable.   We are
not sectarian here!
If you are a UK site with HP-UX equipment, please join by mailing
hp-comms-request@lut.ac.uk

Rob Thirlby
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: optdes@alaska.caedm.byu.edu (Alan Parkinson)
Subject: HP VUE - Dynamic Colors
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 12:45:59 MDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Keywords: HP VUE
Originator: optdes@alaska.caedm.byu.edu


We are porting our Motif application to the HP and have found some quirky problems
with the dynamic color capabilities of HP VUE.  

The first problem we had was trying to find a way to turn off dynamic color
on our application for colors such as shadowColor and armColor.  We solved this
by adding an empty resource in the .vue/<hostname:0>/current/vue.resources file
such as:

Application*armColor: ""


Is there a better way of solving this problem?


The other problem we are having is with the menuBar color.  When we set the color
of the menuBar, only a small area around the text gets colored while the rest of the menuBar can still be changed dynamically.  How can this be fixed?  Thanks beforehand.  

Brandon W. Busacker
GUI Developer - Design Synthesis, Inc.
Brigham Young University
From: Kimmo.Suominen@lut.fi (Kimmo Suominen)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: emacs for HP
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:38:29 GMT
Organization: Lappeenranta University of Technology, Finland
Disclaimer: These are my opinions unless otherwise stated

>>>>> "Alan" == Alan McCain <alanm@trin.edu> writes:

Alan> Can someone tell me where I might be able to ftp the HP-enhanced
Alan> version of emacs?

Anonymous ftp to nic.funet.fi:/pub/unix/arch/hpux/interex.  Note the
new 'arch' directory in the path...
--
Kim                      /  Internet: Kimmo.Suominen@lut.fi
"That's what I think."  /   Bitnet:   KIM@FINFILES
From: cionca@siihp1.epfl.ch (Ion Cionca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Lightweight Processes Library
Keywords: LWP
Date: 8 Apr 92 08:32:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: siihp1.1992Apr8.103247
Reply-To: cionca@siihp1.epfl.ch (Ion Cionca)
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne


	Hello everybody,

	I am looking for the Lightweight Processes Library (LWP)
	for HP-UX or for some PD stuff doing the same job.

	I know that OSF has "threads" AKA "lightweight processes".
	Can I rely on this or it's too different?

	If you have any infos (HP ref, PD FTP sites or other),
	I'd really appreciate it!

	Thanx in advance

	Ion
	
-- 


                    Ion CIONCA
                    Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (EPFL)
                    Service Informatique Central 
                    1015 LAUSANNE (SWITZERLAND)
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From: bcripe@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Brian E. Cripe)
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 19:25:36 GMT
Subject: Re: Re: Softbench A.02 and VUE... accessing remote BMS's
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> To follow up on myself... the correct location would
> be /usr/lib/X11/vue/Vuelogin/Xsession. Once I added the MSERVE
> settting/export there, the Vue-started softmsgsrv used the specified
> port and I can access my BMS on other machines using the same enviornment
> setting. If there is an OFFICIAL way to do this, I'd still like to know...

I'm not quite sure what constitutes "official".  VUE consciously attempts
to expose as little of the BMS infrastructure as possible -- much less
than SoftBench exposes.  I don't see any problem with setting MSERVE in
your Xsession file, as long as you know what you are doing.

	Brian "not an HP official" Cripe
From: hoan@tog-1s.uucp (Hoan Do)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Booting Sun 3/50 from HP server
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:34:00 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company

Does anyone know if it is possible to boot a Sun 3/50 from a 300 series HP
server?  If so, what do I need to set up?  Thanks in advance.

Hoan Do
hoan@tog-1s.hac.com

From: jsm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (John Marvin)
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 08:34:02 GMT
Subject: Re: HP Suggestions
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, smoot@roger-rabbit.cs.berkeley.edu (Stephen [Steve] R Smoot) writes:

> What is the net address to send HP suggestions about how to improve their
> future systems?  is there one?
> 
> -s

Currently none that I am aware of. For enhancement requests, I would try
two simultaneous paths:


	1) Post your enhancement request here in comp.sys.hp. Many HP-UX
	engineers read this notesgroup. Even if an HP engineer who is
	responsible for the code you are requesting an enhancement for
	does not read this group, sometimes an HP engineer who does
	read comp.sys.hp will forward the request to someone who could
	make the change. Also, by posting, other customers will see your
	request and comment on it, lending ammunition to the HP engineer
	who is trying to get the time to do the enhancement.

	2) Talk to your local HP representative about filing a STARS
	enhancement request. A STARS request will eventually be routed
	to the project that would be responsible for making your enhancement.
	
Note that enhancements are usually treated with lower priority than defects.
In most cases, by the time you receive a particular release of HP-UX,
the features of the next release of HP-UX are already defined, and
schedules drawn. So, if your enhancement request has merit, and HP decides
to do it, you will probably not see the enhancement until two releases later.

It is also possible that your "enhancement request" might be considered
a bug that needs fixing by the responsible engineer. In which case, you 
might see a "fix" in the next release.

Finally, make sure that when you post or submit enhancement requests, that
you tell us if your request is based on a feature provided by another
computer manufacturer.  This information helps us in two ways: 1) It may
affect the priority given to making the change, and 2) if there is an
already established industry precedent, it will help prevent us from
implementing the enhancement differently, causing compatibility problems
unecessarily.

	John Marvin
	jsm@fc
From: jsadler@misty.boeing.com (Jim Sadler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: scsi & HP
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:32:50 GMT
Organization: Boeing Commercial Airplane BCS Support

/ misty:comp.sys.hp / wk@cup.hp.com (Wayne Krone) /  8:01 pm  Apr  9, 1992 /
mike@socrates.umd.edu (Mike Santangelo (UNIX/VMS Sysmgr)) writes:

>
>The s800 minor releases include support for new hardware and defect
>fixes but generally not any new software features.  The major releases
	   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	This is a point I can't let go by.  New software features
	available with 8.02, 8.05, 8.06 and 8.07 are as follows:
	resizing window automaticly (sigwinch), Disk striping, Shared X, cue,
	scsictl, automount instl_adm, imageview, newer cc, better?
	allocs, xstm, postscript lp filter, new cpp, newer netLS, newer
	sam, newer Motif( osf complient), Shared X, powerfail for SCSI.
	Support for hardware: 7980S/SX QIC drives A2312A, Cascade(?),
	NPX, C246XX.

This is probally a short list and not totally accurate.  But I don't
appreciate HP decision makers (marketing?), telling me that because I
have a 3/4XX or 8X5 I don't need the above "not any new software features"

>----------

jim sadler
206-957-5457	email	uunet!bcstec!jsadler | jsadler@misty.boeing.com

This service is brought to you by the computing mafia of Boeing (BCS).
Oh ya
None of the above is an opinion of The Boeing Co.
From: vsnyder@math.jpl.nasa.gov (Van Snyder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Re: VUE window appearance and bells/whistles.
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:58:34 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory

I restarted VUE to clean up some mess or another, and got another mess
instead:  All of the windows and icons that had been in the various
workspaces came back in the first one.  Is there some incantation one
can utter to get VUE to restart with windows and icons in the workspaces
they were in before the restart?  Is there a way to move a window or
icon from one workspace to another?

Thanks in advance.
-- 
Van Snyder = vsnyder@math.jpl.nasa.gov
From: scot@creek.ugrad.ee.ufl.edu (Scott Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: g++ & HP-UX
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:45:52 GMT
Organization: UF EE Department


Apparently I need a patch from HP (#PHCO_0800), for the buggy
HP assembler, to be able to compile gcc2.1 under HP-UX 8.0
on a 9000/425. Does anyone have this batch? Please send it
to me.

Thanks,
Scott
From: sdroppers@pbs.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Is there an HP user group (HP-UX)(Thanks All)
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:01:29 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Apr2.161017.15727@pbs.org>, sdroppers@pbs.org writes:
> I am looking for information on an HP users group.  We have three new 9000/827
> systems and I would like to know what sort of users group exists.

Thanks all.  I have gotten the number for INTEREX and given them a call,
perhaps I will get to meet some of you at one of the meetings.  The number I
called is:

408-738-4848.
-- 
Seton Droppers  -- "Anything that I say is my opinion and not my employer's."
Systems Manager, E-Mail Postmaster
Public Broadcasting Service, 1320 Braddock Place Alexandria, VA 22314-1698
E-Mail:  sdroppers@pbs.org	Voice: 703-739-5089	FAX: 703-739-0775
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> I seem to be having a problem with XtDestroyWidget (or so I think).  Here
> are the particulars:
>
>	 HP 345 workstation running HP-UX 8.0, X11R4, and Motif 1.1
>
>	The following code segment creates a toplevel shell which contains
>        a rowcolumn widget containing 40 togglebuttons.  After realizing
>	the toplevel, I call a function which prints out the widget tree by
>	walking it.  The callback for the togglebuttons first destroys the
>        rowcolumn widget, syncs, and then prints out the widget tree again.
>        Unfortunately, the two lists are the same!  I expected that there
>        would not be any widgets in the tree after the XtDestroyWidget.
>	Did I make an incorrect assumption?  BTW, I've also tried to
>        put a time-waster between the sync and the printing out of the
>  	widget tree to no avail.  Any ideas will be appreciated.
>	Thanks for your time.

This comes from the way that destroy works internally.  When you destroy
a widget, it simply marks the widget and descendants as "being
destroyed".  When the code gets back into XtMainLoop/XtAppMainLoop
(actually, XtNextEvent, I believe), the "real" destroy code gets called.
So, in your sample program, all the widgets have been marked for
destroy, but they haven't really been destroyed when you print the tree.

--Bill Turner (bturner@cv.hp.com)
HP User Interface Technology Division, Corvallis
From: jxt@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (TOLLIVER J S)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: GNU make working (was: Re: Why would csh say "to_short ran out of space")
Date: 10 Apr 92 11:21:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: ornl.1992Apr10.112124.23107
Reply-To: jxt@stc06.ctd.ornl.gov (TOLLIVER J S)
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory

Thanks to all who replied. With the help of the net and the HP Response
Center (thanks, Simon Fowler), I now have GNU make working. Here is the
correct answer about why csh generates that weird to_short ran out of
space message:

>/bin/csh on HPUX doesn't seem to like having a large environment.
>
>For example, I use bash, and I export my functions, to avoid having to
>reparse them from the .bashrc file every time a new shell starts up.
>
>If I invoke a c-shell script from bash, it dies with that error.
>
>If I unexport all my functions and then run the script, no problem.
>
>c shells are evil
>

That's right! For some reason, GNU make passes make macros as exported
environment variables. This 5000+ line Makefile defines lots of LONG
macros. As a result the environment gets HUGE, exceeding some internal
1024-byte limit in csh. So csh breaks with that weird error. Sure, the
error message could be a bit more informative, but at least I now know
what was happening. HP's make, on the other hand, does not export all
those make macros as environment variables so the problem does not occur.

Well, how to fix it? Simon Fowler of the HP Response Center suggested that
I try replacing the which with a simple ksh script that does nothing
more than whence $1. (For the uninitiated, whence is a ksh built-in that
does basically the same thing as which.) This worked like a charm! Might
be something you want to file away in the back of your mind somewhere...

After I got the which/whence thing working, I got a message from Roland
McGrath, one of the co-authors of GNU make, saying that, sure enough,
GNU make exports tons of stuff. Still don't know why. Anyway, using
.NOEXPORT in the Makefile, is supposed to fix it. Since I already had
the which/whence thing working, I haven't tried this fix.

By the way, I want to sing some small praise of the HP Response Center.
They could have easily taken the point of view that GNU make wasn't their
problem. But, over 2 or 3 days, they helped me diagnose the problem and
finally provided a fix. Good service.

Johnny Tolliver
jxt@ornl.gov
From: tomw@panix.com (Tom Weddell)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Need info. or format.dat data for HP 97558-S 1.2G drive
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:17:49 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: PANIX - Public Access Unix Systems of NY


 just bought an HP 97558-S 1.2G drive for a Sun IPC. (Although the
invoice says 97588...). Unfortunately the label was corrupted and I
have no info. (cylinders, sectors etc) so I can't format it. If anyone
can help or point me in the right direction, I'd appreciate it!

Thanks, tomw@panix.com
From: rexw@hardy.u.washington.edu (Rex Warren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Printing from terminal on HP-9000
Date: 6 Apr 92 22:36:36 GMT
Reply-To: rexw@hardy.u.washington.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


Sorry for the simple question that is probably in the man pages for
HP-UX, but some people here are stumped.  How do I print from a printer
attached to a terminal?  Will this work over the network?

Thanks in advance.  Please E-mail, I don't read this group often.
Rex Warren
rexw@hardy.u.washington.edu
From: duff@starbase.mitre.org (David A. Duff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: datebook problem with memorial day
Summary: datebook seems to have a bug
Keywords: datebook calendar schedule memorial day bug
Date: 2 Apr 92 19:56:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: starbase.duff.702244569
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

i recently noticed that memorial day does not show up in the datebook
calendar.  it is listed in /usr/lib/X11/datebook/holidays as "last
monday in may", and if i do a "browse file" command from inside
datebook, it shows up as being the "0th monday in may".  in any case, it
never shows up on the calendar.

i'm running hp-ux 8.07.  i don't think i've made any mods to any of the
datebook files...  have others observed this?

dave duff                   mitre corporation               703-883-7731
duff@mitre.org             ai technical center            mclean, va usa
From: marc@marcal.uucp (Marc Veeneman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: C and C++ deveopment environment
Date: 7 Apr 92 13:44:43 GMT
Organization: Marcal Systems Corporation

stroyan@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Mike Stroyan) writes:

>> When I received our mahcines, I loaded the ANSI C compiler first.
>> update told me that the package/fileset PROG_MIN was missing.  After
>> completing the install, I tried to compile perl, but found that libdbm
>> was missing along with other libraries that I would have expected to
>> find (such as libnet, libndir, and others that perl's Configure found
>> on a HP720 that I once used).

>> So my question is: what am I missing?  Is there something that I should
>> have on some tape that needs to be installed?  Is there some package I
>> still need to purchase?

>libddbm is in the PROG-AUX fileset.  You can check for the presence of
>filesets by looking for a directory of the same name as the fileset in
>/system.  There is a list of the files in each fileset in
>/system/<FILESET>/pdf.  The command "pdfck /system/<FILESET>/pdf" will
>test whether all of the files in a fileset are present and have a correct
>checksum.

>Mike Stroyan, mike_stroyan@fc.hp.com

But, the PROG-AUX fileset is an $800.00 option which you have to
purchase.  That's in addition to the C-Programming option.  Check
with your salesperson.  If he/she seems confused, ask for the
System Administration Manuals option.  If you buy the Manuals
option on CD-ROM, they keep the Manuals and give you a $200.00
price break.  The "free" stuff which comes with the manuals thus
actually costs $600.00 and includes help(1), dbm(3x), and
who-knows-what-else.



-- 
Marc
------------------------------------------------------------------------
   Marc Veeneman  Marcal Systems Corporation  Cary, Illinois U.S.A.
   If at first you don't succeed, you probably won't the second try.
From: thomas@hpugrca.GRC.HP.COM (Thomas Buenermann)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 08:27:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Printing from terminal on HP-9000
Organization: HP Response-Center Germany, Ratingen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

#include <std/disclaimer.h>

One way to access the printer port of the terminal from the system
serving the terminal is to run the Terminal Session Manager on the
terminal.
(There is some handshaking necessary that TSM takes care of.)
If I remember correctly, the TSM comes free with 8.X on 800, and
has to be ordered seperately for 300/400/700 (8.X only).
It also provides session-switching like some PC-based Unix(TM)-Flavors.

- Thomas
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jhood@banana.ithaca.ny.us (John Hood)
Subject: Re: HP 9000/835 hp-ux 7.0 <-> modem problem
Organization: Pick a banana, any banana
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 00:26:17 GMT
Keywords: modem

In article <1992Apr2.114520.16081@ktibv.uucp> ndr@ktibv.uucp (Nick de Ruyter) writes:
>Hi there,
>
>The last week I've been trying to install a modem on a HP 9000/835
>with hp-ux 7.0. At first, everything seemed to be running o.k., but
>when people tried to call-in from the outside the problem started :
>
>The first time someone from the outside tries to call-in there is no
>problem at all. The second (and any other) time, however, the modem
>does go off hook (and makes connection), but that's all. When I either
>reset the modem or take the modem-hp-cable out the modem and re-connect
>it again, it works fine again. It seems as if either the hp or the modem
>keeps a line up (or down) while it should be down (or up).
>
>Out of contact with the HP Response Center it showed that there was a
>patch (P238) which should solve this problem. I installed it right away,
>but the situation is still the same.
>
>Does anyone out there recognize this problem and, even more important,
>know a solution ???

I had a similar problem occasionally with our 825 and 6-port mux for a
long time.  I actually got it mostly working, after a lot of effort.
Later, much to my chagrin, I discovered that HUPCL was not included in
the gettydefs entry for that line, even though I had installed it
originally with SAM as a modem line.  This may have been a gettydefs
file that came from our original 6.5 install.  I'm not sure how it had
ever worked before I found this out.

Moral:  check your gettydefs file for HUPCL and CLOCAL in the right
places :)

-- 
John Hood, CU student, CU employee, and sometime BananaOp
jhood@albert.mannlib.cornell.edu,jhood@banana.ithaca.ny.us,jeh@crnlvax5.bitnet
By any reasonable computer's standard, I'm a virus.  So are you.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp