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From:         John Bigelow <ECON1286@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Landscape on Packard Bell.. (configed. as HP)
              18 Nov 1992 06:26:00 GMT from <v4194rvc@UBVMSB.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>

On Wed, 18 Nov 1992 06:26:00 GMT RON C. HAMILTON said:
>DOCUMENTATION is like gold, People always steal it......
>
>Well anyway we are running a Packard Bell configured as a  HP and
>we just can't seem to get it to print Landscape.  Is there a secret or
>are we just WP5.1 illiterate?
>
>We have changed the size of the paper but to no avail....??
>
>Any help?
Is it configured as an HP that will print landscape?  This question is
not as silly as it sounds.  If you choose a font which is not available
in landscape on your printer, then even though you've specified
landscape, the printer will over-ride that specification in an effort to
get the font you asked for.   Conclusion:  Check to make sure the font
you want is available in landscape mode.

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From:         Johan Berteloot <JBERTELO@RKC.UFSIA.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: File conversion from Word5.5
              16 Nov 92 13:41:54 EDT from <MCHOLL@TSRV1.TS.WM.EDU>

On Mon, 16 Nov 92 13:41:54 EDT Michael Hollinger said:
>>> > Dag Janneke,
>>> > Een signoffbriefje van deze lijst ben ik kwijt,
>>> >
>>> > Hoe kan ik me afmelden van deze lijst ?
>>> >
>>> > Met vriendelijke groet,
>
>>Please write preferably in English.  If that is not possible, then
>>French, Spanish or Portuguese will be fine. Ok?
>
>>Thank you.
>
>Okay, I know this has nothing to do w/Wp, but would someone tell me
>if this translation is right? I only speak German & English (well, a
>little bit of Russian, too, but that's not really relevant here..)
>
>Hello Janneke,
>Something about a signoff-letter from this list (and then am I)
>possibly, I recieved a signonff letter from this list...
>
>How can I join/signoff from this list
>
>With frendly greetings (Sincerely,)
>
>etc...
>
>Anyone????
>                 '''
>                (o o)
>------------oOO--(_)--OOo-------------------------------------------
>Tell me, if pro is the opposite of con, does that mean that Congress
>is the opposite of progress?
>
>MCHOLL@TSRV1.TS.WM.EDU,        * * *         Michael Hollinger, esq.
>====================================================================

Hi all,

This letter means :

Hello Janneke,

I lost my signoff letter of this list (the initial message you get on
subscription from the listserver).

How do I signoff this list ?

Kind regards,
...

I hope this response will finally close the languages discussion. If you
want other translations from Dutch to English of vice versa, just let me
know (personal mail, not on the list). My native language is Dutch, but
I speak also French, English and German.

Bye,
--- Johan

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From:         Bob Cottis <MJPXREP@CMS.MCC.AC.UK>
Subject:      Importing from Chiwriter

We need to import a fairly large document from Chiwriter to WP5.1.  I
assume that we shall not be able to convert the equations, but does
anyone know if we can import the rest of the text withour losing too
much in the way of formatting and special characters?

Bob Cottis, Corrosion and Protection Centre, UMIST
(MJPXREP@UK.AC.MCC.CMS or R.A.COTTIS@UK.AC.UMIST)
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From:         "Grace.Rodriguez" <ADP17@MSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Envelopes with HP DeskJet 500

I'm trying to print envelopes using WP 5.1 on a HP DeskJet 500.  It printed
the very first envelope correctly; then subsequent tries shoot out the
envelope (sometimes with one line printed on the bottom) and the address then
is printed on an 8 1/2 x 11 page.

I've tried changing the location of paper to manual, then back to continuous.
I've also tried changing the printer switches 5 and 6--no luck.  Can anyone
offer a solution.  (Incidentally, I do know that the paper size/type code has
to be at the very top of the document, etc. etc.)

Thanks for any help!

Grace Rodriguez
From: 6160lacya@vms.csd.mu.edu (Alan Lacy)
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Subject: Re: ScreenExtender
Date: 18 Nov 1992 21:22:21 GMT
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In article <9211180212.AA00672@cfa0.HARVARD.EDU>, "(Bob Babcock)" 
   <peprbv@CFA0.HARVARD.EDU> writes:

        [text deleted]


>Before considering a product like ScreenExtender, note that Word Perfect
>itself will work in odd-sized video text modes if your hardware supports them
>and you have a utility to switch into the mode before starting WP.  Check your
>video board documentation and any utilities which came with the board.  You
>need an add-on if you can't get into an appropriate text mode.  The add-on
>will run in graphics mode, which has to reduce performance.  I find that a
>typical PC monitor doesn't have the resolution to make 132 characters per line
>very readable, but 100 characters isn't bad, and is about the number needed
>for typical proportional fonts.  But, a lot of video boards won't do
>100xanything, and if they do, the resulting scan frequency is usually strange
>so only a true multisync monitor can be used.  Something to consider when
>shopping for new hardware.

I'd like to second Bob's comments regarding the video board solution.  I 
have used a Paradise board and (currently) a Trident 9000 board (both 
color).  Both these came with drivers that could handle 132 x 24, in text 
mode. It's probably the case that each board will be different.  My 
Paradise could not handle 16 color, 512 characters at 132 columns wide, 
so if I wanted this width, I could only use a 256 character set. (This I 
discovered after much frustrating experimentation.)  The Trident will
handle 512 char., 16 colors, 132 columns and 24 lines in text mode, but I
can also go up to 132 cols x 60 lines, if I want to use a graphics mode
(which I don't). 

I wrote 2 simple macros to switch back and forth as necessary during a 
session, so it isn't necessary switch before start-up.  All changes are 
made within setup (Shift F1).

Probably most newer video cards can handle the wider text screen, but it's 
a matter of finding the info in the documents that accompany the card, then 
trying to figure out exactly what they mean -- which occasionally is even 
what they say!

Alan F. Lacy
Marquette University
6160lacya@vms.csd.mu.edu
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From: hsitz@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Herbert E Sitz)
Subject: Re: Footnote lines
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:06:46 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.132142.9930@vax.oxford.ac.uk> shangguan@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>In article <1992Oct29.163536.285@ruc.dk>, robin@ruc.dk (Robin Cheesman) writes:
>> How is it possible to manipulate the line separating text from footnote?
>> I would like to make it thinner ...
>>
>I would like to know this too. I would also like to know how to reduce the gap
>between the body text and the footnote. I know that I can change the minimum
>note height, but this seems only to affect the note itself, and not the gap
>between it and the body text.
>
>Any ideas?
>
>David
>

 
Here are suggestions for both these problems:
 
I think the only way to get footer lines to be different
thicknesses and/or closer to the footnote text is to include
horizontal line codes manually.  To do this you would do the
following things:
 
1.   DON'T include any line separating notes from text in the
     footnote options code.
2.   a)   Every time before you print, run a macro which pages
          through your document and puts a horizontal line code
          (<alt-F9>) immediately BEFORE each hard or soft page code. 
          The line code thus comes after all text on the pages and
          creates a line that appears to separate notes from the
          text.  Experiment with the thickness of the line to find
          out what you like.  Use that measurement when you make
          your macro.
     b)   To make the notes appear closer to the line also include
          an [advance up] command immediately after the horizontal
          line (shft-F8,(O)ther, Advance Up).  This "tricks" WP
          into thinking the text ends a little higher up on the
          page, so WP prints the notes a little higher up than it
          otherwise would.  Experiment with measurements in the
          advance up code until you get a look you like.
 
Notes: You will want to run this macro every time before you print. 
and you will want to print the resulting file only, don't save it. 
(If you do save it and the document later has page breaks at
different spots, you'll have horizontal lines in the middle of your
text.  It's not much of a problem to delete all line codes and
advance up codes, though, by using search and replace.  And you
could then run your macro to reinsert them in the correct spots in
the document.)  I once had a macro that did this very thing; I'm
not sure where it is now.  Speed wasn't acceptable on my lowly XT,
but it did make my articles look exactly like I wanted them to
look.




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From: jfmburg@cs.vu.nl (JFM Burg)
Subject: Nakajima-driver wanted
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 16:01:02 GMT


Hey,

I've tried it a couple weeks ago, but I didn't receive anything, so I decided to try it again:

Does anyone have a Nakajima-printer driver for WP? If you know a ftp-site where I can find this
driver (or if you know a ftp-site which contains a collections of printer-drivers but you're not
sure if it contains a Nakajima one) I would also like to hear it from you.

thanx in advance,

					Hans
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From:         Charlie Reitsma <REITSMAC@DENISON.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: WPWIN macros problem

>The WPWIN is loaded on a NOVELL LAN and all files are flagged as
>Read Only Shareable.
>As a user, to play a WPWIN macro (user created or system) without error, I
>have to open a file (WP/Macro/DOS txt) in the user directory. If not, the
>error message is "File 'xxx.wcm' has invalid format. Search for file?"
>As supervisor, all macros can be played straight.
>Any suggestions?

WordPerfect needs to write the compiled macro.
As Supervisor you have write access to the macro directory.  Giving users
write access to the directory might fix the problem.  Or they have to copy
the macro to their home directory before running it.
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From: cvessey@UPEI.CA (Chris R. Vessey)
Subject: Newspaper Column Line Chopping - Ideas?
Summary: How can one prevent line chopping when using [HRt] in columns?
Keywords: Columns, Newspaper, Line Chopping
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island, CANADA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:58:47 GMT

I've just come across a problem from one of our users - I can't seem to 
solve it.

She's using columns, namely Newspaper-type, to generate a newsletter in 
columnar format.  So far, so good.  Now, she's writing an article, but wants 
to terminate the column part way up the page and continue it in the next - 
[HRt] is the way to go, naturally.  But what happens is that the text in the 
first column is justified, but if the column doesn't happen to end at the 
end of a sentence, the last line is not justified (as would happen if [HRt] 
was being used to terminate a page instead of a column).  Hence, this effect 
is seen:

     I have a  dog and  its      it's white or whether
     name is Spot, and it's	 it's  not,  I am glad
     sometimes  white,  and	 that   it's  my  dog,
     it's   sometimes  not,	 my dog Spot.
     but whether

The "but whether" is not justified - it's treated as the last sentence of a 
paragraph, even though the paragraph is broken by [HRt] to force the new 
column.

Does anyone know of a way to:

	A)	Defeat this option in Columns
	B)	Force full justification of a line, regardless of [HRt]
		placement
	C)	Another way to limit the vertical size of a column.

What she really wants is within the realm of desktop publishing, I know.

When you're in the business of user support, you have to be a Mr. Scott ("Ye 
canna change the laws o' physics, but ye CAN change the printer settings.")

Any help greatly appreciated.

						Chris

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From:         "A. Kaniss" <dashiell@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject:      Re: Getting Setup information automatically - {SYSTEM}field~?

if you don't mind moving the cursor to the position
you can use snipper for this purpose.
Now that I think of it, you could in a situation where
the information would always be in the same location write an input file
for snipper that would move snipper to the place and capture the
information automatically either in a buffer for later replay or in a
file.
You have to know the numbers for the special keys on the keyboard for this
because keys like home and pagedown will have to be entered into that file
as well as arrow keys possibly.

I don't know if it's possible to get those kind of keys written out to
a file so if that's possible then snipper is your utility and it's in simtel20
 pd1:<msdos.screen>.

jude <dashiell@nadc.nadc.navy.mil>
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From: maven@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Jim Baltaxe)
Subject: Re: WPWIN macros problem
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:36:00 GMT

In article <47352.reitsmac@max.cc.denison.edu> reitsmac@DENISON.BITNET writes:
>>The WPWIN is loaded on a NOVELL LAN and all files are flagged as
>>Read Only Shareable.
>>As a user, to play a WPWIN macro (user created or system) without error, I
>>have to open a file (WP/Macro/DOS txt) in the user directory. If not, the
>>error message is "File 'xxx.wcm' has invalid format. Search for file?"
>>As supervisor, all macros can be played straight.
>>Any suggestions?
>
>WordPerfect needs to write the compiled macro.
>As Supervisor you have write access to the macro directory.  Giving users
>write access to the directory might fix the problem.  Or they have to copy
>the macro to their home directory before running it.

If this is true, might I suggest that you do NOT give write access to
the macro directory to all users. This would open an enormous security
hole which could be exploited by anyone with malicious intent, i.e. a
virus or other subversive activity. It would be better to set up the
software to create macros in each user's home directory - or a
subdirectory of it.


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From:         "Ms. L. Asturias" <lucia@UXB.LIV.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: HP Deskjet 500C + WP4.2
              from"WPCORP-L%EARN.HEARN%EARN.HEARN@uk.ac.liverpool.ibm" at Nov
              16, 92 3:47 pm

According to frank:
> Hi There (sorry should it be the wrong group),
>
> Which printer driver should be used with wp4.2 and the HP deskjet 500c?
> Is there an additional driver available?
> best regards
> frank (fb@first.gmd.de)

Frank,

I have just phoned WP support for a similar problem (but for wp 5.1)
they say that because the HP DJ 500c is a colour printer, there's no driver and
won't be any for it.  It's a WP policy for the DOS platform that they are
not supporting colour drivers, only for the Windows platform, because the DOS
and WP software for DOS cannot 'cope' with the  colour definitions....
The only way to use it would be to use the 500 driver, ok?
(NOTE - This's paraphrasing 'Neil' from WP support on (0932)850-555 in the UK)
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From:         "(Dr. Mary Ellen Murray)" <F_MURRAYME@CCSVAX.SFASU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Word Perfect 6.0

Could someone offer a definition for "porting across platforms"?
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From:         Johan Berteloot <JBERTELO@RKC.UFSIA.AC.BE>
Subject:      Re: voice driven apps
              18 Nov 92 15:31:11 GMT from <c_brown@CHEF.UWE.AC.UK>

On Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:31:11 GMT Chris Brown said:
>
>Has anyone heard of a voice driven version of Word Perfect. A friend told
>me such an application was available in the States and may be on its way
>to the UK.
>
>PC people at work have no information.
>
>Thanks
>
>Chris
>
>c_brown@uk.ac.uwe.csd

Hi,

I read something in a magazine recently about a Micro$oft Sound System and
it can control Windows applications by voice commands. Maybe that's what
you are talking about. It supports also WP for Windows.

Bye,
--- Johan

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From: hberg@polisci.umn.edu (Bob Hammarberg)
Subject: Labels printing too high
Organization: Department of Political Science, University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:16:41 GMT

I'm using the Avery 5260 label macro and the appropriate labels, but the 
labels print a little bit too high on the physical page.  Is there any 
way to get the printing to start ca. 1/4" lower down on the page?  I'm 
printing on an NEC LS890 PScript laser.
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From:         KBANOVIC <KBANOVIC@CFRVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Labels printing too high

The label macro sets top margin to 0". I go in and change this to .1" and they
print fine.

Karen K. Banovic_______kbanovic@cfrvm.cfr.usf.edu
Microcomputing Support/Information Systems Services
University of South Florida
SVC 4010     813/974-3191
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From:         Peter Dorman <pdorman@ITSMAIL1.HAMILTON.EDU>
Subject:      Re: ScreenExtender
              "MMORSE@YORKVM1.BITNET" at Nov 17, 92 11:32 pm

I am puzzled by the denunciations of ScreenExtender that have been
flitting across my screen.  Granted, SX is not a panacea, but it is a
useful, well-designed program.  The last batch of enhancements (about 1
year ago) were a major improvement: the program is easy to use, highly
compatible, and offers beautiful screen fonts, even on my laptop.  (SX's
bold reversed fonts are far superior to my laptop's default.)
Constantly formatting and reformatting to print and edit is not an
acceptable alternative for me.  Of course, all of this will be moot in a
few months when WP gives us an editable WYSIWYG mode in 6.0.

Peter Dorman
Economics Department
Hamilton College
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From: maven@kauri.vuw.ac.nz (Jim Baltaxe)
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:44:33 GMT
Organization: Victoria University of Wellington

In article <C27CCB6AD37F20331C@IB.AGRO.NL> Roelof Oldenhuis <OLDENHUIS@IB.AGRO.NL> writes:
>Hello,
>
>    I am looking for an independent macro editor.
>I get memory conflicts when I edit very large macro's within WP.
>So besides printing and editing very easily with such an editor, it is
>impossible for me to edit my macro's at all.
>
....
>
>Roelof Oldenhuis     Internet: oldenhuis@ib.agro.nl

Get WP Office. It has just such an editor which also handles plain DOS
text files. Very powerful and flexible as well as familiar to WP51
users.


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