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From: briganti@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (Joe Briganti)
Subject: Re: Smoke-free travel question
Followup-To: rec.travel
Reply-To: j.briganti@trl.oz.au (Joe Briganti)
Organization: Telecommunications Research Laboratories, Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:56:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.165344.24972@pencom.com> twriter1@pencom.com writes:
>My husband and I would like to take a trip to Europe
>one of these days.  The problem is he is EXTREMELY 
>sensitive to cigarette smoke (projectile vomiting, etc.).
>The non-smoking section of an airplane just wouldn't do
>the trick for him I fear.  He has said he would wear
>an oxygen mask (or gas mask--I'm not sure what it is, but
>it's huge) for the flight over. I'm afraid he'd be horribly uncomfortable.  

I sympathize with your problem but what will you do when you reach Europe? 
On my trip last year, I found Europeans (mainly French, Italian and Greek) to
be about the most compulsive smokers I've ever seen. -No smoking- signs meant
nothing to these hard core fanatic smokers. In some bars and trains the
feeling was similar to having a poorly tuned diesel bus exhaust its fumes
into a clothes cupboard with you inside. 

I fear that your husband will have to wear his gas mask full time, wherever 
you go on your travels in Europe unless you intend staying outdoors or away
from closed public places for the duration :-).

--
Joe Briganti ( j.briganti@trl.oz.au ) 
I'm leavin' on a jet plane,  dont know when I'll be back again.
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: *NEW* TRAVEL ADVISORY -- Latin America
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:33:44 GMT

rnewman@bbn.com (Ron Newman) wrote: 
->I was just pointing out that the U.S. State Department's 
->travel advisory is presumptuous and uninformed.

actually, ron, it does represent many (most?) of the people who live
in this country, who are painfully middle-class ... 

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
# "fight the real enemy."  -- sinead o'connor, and many others.
From: betsys@cs.umb.edu (Elizabeth Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: No smoking to Europe response
Date: 10 Oct 92 23:58:46 GMT
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

RE: non-smoking hotel rooms: 
I stayed mostly in very cheap pensiones, and one nice thing about them
was that the windows always opened! Some rooms had a bit of leftover
smoke aroma but most had none. 
  The desk clerks almost always smoked, though.
I found I got used to it after a while...I think it is possible to
build up a tolerance.
--
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From: rboudrie@chpc.org (Rob Boudrie)
Subject: Re: guns & travel
Keywords: guns, interstate travel
Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 15:13:50 GMT

In article <4145@novavax.UUCP> vaccaro@novavax.UUCP (N. Trafford Vaccaro) writes:
>Hello, a friend of mine will be travelling from Florida to New York City
>with his wife and small child. He wants to bring either a pistol or
>a rifle with him but is worried about the legalities of doing so.
>Questions he asked were: should he take a pistol or a rifle? Should it
>be kept in the trunk of the car? He has been in compromising positions
>before with muggers (he's from New York) and he is responsible when
>it comes to weapon safety (separation of ammo and weapon, trigger locks,
>proper storage, etc). 
>
>Who should he contact to find out the laws in the states between FL and
>NY? Thanks.

NYC has some of ths strictest gun control in the nation.  Except for
a "continuous and uninterrupted trip" (provided for in a 1986 Federal law),
civilians may not posess any sort of firearms within the city without
a license.  Rifle & shotgun licenses are difficult to get; handgun
licenses (particularly those for self protection) are issued only to
the most powerful, connected, and influential people (Donald Trump,
Howard Stern, and former mayor John Lindsay had no trouble getting 
their applications approved).

NYC policy is to prosecute all gun cases vigorously, regardless of criminal
intent or lack thereof.  Remember, Bernie Goetz was exnoerate of criminal
wrongdoing on the shooting but did one year for illegal gun posession.

Just about anything else which could interfere with a mugger's ability
to ply his trade (mace, pepper spray, knives, tactical batons, etc.)
is also illegal to carry, and in many cases, even posess.

Find another place to travel to :(.

Rob Boudrie
rboudrie@chpc.org
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: STU@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Smoke-free travel question
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:11:03 GMT

I have a similar problem - severe nose bleeds and substantial discomfort.
 
Quantas is beginning to offer totally non-smoking flights - call them and
ask if they have one available to your area.  If not, contact the airline.
 
Last flight, they moved me to first class for one leg - and put me in a
non-smoking area of first class - there was only one smoker and they asked
him to try and avoid my area of the section.  American Airlines was very
cooperative in trying to help.
 
I urge each non-smoker to contact the airline and beg for totally non-smoking
cabins - or at least non-smoking sections of the plane with extra air supplies.
 
Baring that, I carry medicine - antihistimes - to help with the smoke and
tell the flight attendants that they must wake me if I sleep and the blood
flow gets to heavy.  It usually prompts them to warn the smokers in the
non-smoking area not to smoke around me.
 
Maybe more companies will follow Quantas' lead and become totally non-smoking.
 
Good luck.  /Stu
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: gbm@jmp.com (Gary B. McKenney - Interface Solutions Inc.)
Subject: Re: SLUMBERCOACHES AND ROOMMETTES ON AMTRAK
Organization: JMP & Associates, Ltd. - Atlanta, Ga.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 15:28:34 GMT

In article <22840@galaxy.ucr.edu> santafe@watnxt07.ucr.edu (michael a parisi) writes:
>
>Is it true that in these particular sleeping compartments your
>toilet folds out of the wall next to the bed?   
>
>Sounds like a prison cell.
>
>And, do you really want to stay in bed after using the facilities?....
>
>Please write me your experiences regarding these interesting sleeping
>quarters.

My wife and myself just got back on an AMTRAK excursion.  I walked away with
mixed feelings.

On the way up to our destination we had a fun time.  Our train car was clean,
We had our own restroom.  It was cozy.  The food was good although you had
to walk through a disgusting smoke filled lounge car to get to the dining car.

On the way back it was miserable.  We were treated rudely, we were placed
in a car that had inadequate suspension therefore we felt every single bump.
We were not given our eating passes therefore we were treated rudely in
the dining car (although the food was good).

By the was the accomodations I am describing are First Class.

Gary McKenney
From: 76702.1202@CompuServe.COM (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: *NEW* TRAVEL INFORMATION -- Sweden
Date: 14 Oct 1992 08:12:53 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

STATE DEPARTMENT TRAVEL INFORMATION - Sweden
============================================================
Sweden - Consular Information Sheet
 October 7, 1992

Embassy Location:  The U.S. Embassy in Stockholm is located at 
Strandvagen 101; telephone (46) (8) 783-5300.

Country Description:  Sweden is a highly developed stable democracy 
with a modern economy.  Tourist facilities are widely available.

Entry Requirements:  A tourist or business visa is not required for 
stays of up to three months ( the 90 day period begins when entering 
the Scandinavian area:  Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Iceland or 
Finland).  For further information concerning entry requirements for 
Sweden, travelers can contact the Royal Swedish Embassy at 600 New 
Hampshire Avenue N.W., Suite 1200, Washington, DC 20037, tel:  (202) 
944-5600, or the nearest Swedish Consulate General in Chicago, Los 
Angeles, or New York.

Medical Facilities:  Medical care is widely available.  U.S. 
medical insurance is not always valid out of the United States.  
Travelers have found that in some cases, supplement medical 
insurance with specific overseas coverage has proved to be useful.  
Further information on health matters can be obtained from the 
Centers for Disease Control's international travelers hotline on 
(404) 332-4559.

Crime Information:  Sweden has a low crime rate.  Violent crime is 
rare.  Most crimes involve theft of personal property in public 
areas or burglary of vacant residences.  However, travelers, 
especially those who appear affluent, can become targets of 
pickpockets and purse snatchers.  The telephone number for police 
and other emergency services throughout the country is 90000.  U.S. 
citizens can refer to the Department of State's pamphlet, "A Safe 
Trip Abroad" for ways to promote a more trouble-free voyage.  The 
pamphlet is available from the Superintendent of Documents, U.S. 
Government Printing Office, Washington DC 20402.

Drug Penalties:  Penalties for possession, use, or trafficking in 
illegal drugs are high, and convicted offenders can expect jail 
sentences and fines.  Driving regulations and signs differ from 
those in the U.S.  Moving violations, especially speeding and 
driving under the influence of alcohol, are strictly enforced, and 
fines can be severe.

Other Information:  Over the past year, there have been isolated 
incidents of violence directed against non-European immigrants.

Registration:  Americans who register at the Consular Section of 
the U.S. Embassy may obtain updated information on travel and 
security within the areas.

 No. 92-047

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: engp2055@nusunix1.nus.sg (VINOD UDHARAM VASNANI)
Subject: Room Sharing for CDC'92
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 07:49:31 GMT



Room Sharing for CDC'92
=======================

Looking for a male roomate to share a double room  for the IEEE Conference on
Decision and Control 1992 (CDC '92) to be help at the Westin La Paloma,
Tucson, Arizona, U.S.A, in December. 
Anyone interested please reply by email.

Vasnani Vinod U
engp2055@nusunix1.nus.sg
PhD candidate
Department of Electrical Engineering
National University of Singapore

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: wwhitman@nevada.edu (MICHAEL WISE)
Subject: Re: Information on travel to Taiwan
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 18:19:55 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.143136.29087@lth.se> matsbror@dit.lth.se (Mats Brorsson) writes:
>
>I will be traveling to Hong Kong and Taiwan in December and I have a
>few questions I haven't been able to get answers on around here.
>
>I am planning on taking the ferry between Macau and Kaoshaing (sp?). 
>What's the wheater like at that time of year. Will the sea be rough?

That will probably be a rough ride, if it is not a stormy one, which is
also possible. However, it is the cheapest and most interesting way to
get to and from the island.

>I am thinking of getting a suit made up. Will it be cheaper in Taipei
>than in Hong Kong? What is the price level?

Taiwan has a very high price level. Although it exports a lot of stuff,
most of that stuff is not available locally. There is also very little 
competition from imports. I wouldn't buy a suit in either place, but 
if I had to choose, I'd choose HK.

>Will it be cheaper to buy computer accessoires in Hong Kong than in Taipei?

Yes. But you really have to stomach a lot of salesmen in order to get
what you want. I feel that I have paid more in time, in abuse, in dickering
than I ever saved in price. However, I'm coming from the US, and Euro-
pean trade restrictions might make it more worth your while.

>I have a noname notebook made in Taiwan which I plan to upgrade whith 
>more disk space. Is it best to do that in Taipei (or other places in Taiwan)
>or in Hong Kong?
>
Again, Hong Kong is the place to take care of these things. I doubt that
notebooks are sold domestically by the Taiwanese.

Michael Wise
Taiwan veteran



Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: jog@kpc.com (Rajeev Jog)
Subject: Re: Trip "Report" 2 weeks in UK w/baby
Keywords: Comments and Observations, mainly
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computers Inc.
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:06:22 GMT

cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris) writes:
>In article <976@ether.UUCP> danm@ether.UUCP (Dan McDonald) writes:
>>Speaking of VAT, and the fabled "VAT refund," I believe that it is the
>>biggest scam yet.  It was so convoluted to get any money back, that I
>>would rather they say "thanks for visiting, thanks for buying, thanks
>>for your money, see you next time" instead of "TAX-FREE SHOPPING IN
>>BRITAIN!!!  GET YOUR VAT DOLLARS BACK!  EASY REFUND!  JUST LOOK FOR THE
>>DECAL IN SHOPS ACROSS THE COUNTRY!"  What none of the literature or signs
>>say, is that you have to meet each individual shop's requirements for them
>>to fill out a voucher for you, and without the voucher you get no refund.
>>Shops had minimum purchase requirements of 30 or 50 pounds in order for
>>them to give us a voucher, and the shopkeepers all went quiet as a mouse
>>when we tried to get any more information from them.

>I don't see why this is a "scam". Big shops in tourist areas seem
>geared up for the scheme, elsewhere they don't. It also doesn't seem
>unreasonable to impose some kind of minimum given the paperwork involved. 

>You should also have pestered them more. One retailer, who wasn't
>geared up for the scheme, discounted the item I wanted to buy by the 
>VAT rate rather than lose my custom. 

The VAT refund is a scam, period.  The minimums are way too high, and if
that's the case because of the paperwork involved, well, that's how the scam
is set up...they make it hard for the retailers which ensures that
nobody gets are refund.

In the two cases that I dropped the receipts etc. into the box at the
airport, I didn't see a penny of it back.

-- 
Rajeev Jog
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From: john@sequent.com (John Vander Borght)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Hotels/B&Bs in Tucson, Az
Keywords: Tucson, Arizona, hotels
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:12:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Oct16.151214.23894
Distribution: usa
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

My wife and I will be going to Tucson in February and would like to find a
nice small hotel or bed and breakfast for a reasonable price for a week.
I've already got reservations at the Radison for $85.50 a night, so I
probably would be willing to pay up to that amount (or even a little more)
for a nicer place.

Thanks for any recommendations you can give.

Also, any ideas on things to see/do there.  I'm in a class for 4 days, but
the rest of the time should be free.

John Vander Borght
john@sequent.com

-- 
"Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty!"
John Vander Borght
john@sequent.com
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: mccreary@fairfax.stfx.ca (Don McCreary)
Subject: Re: Sable Island - seeking info
Organization: University Computer Services, St. Francis Xavier University
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 23:10:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.182805.1@woods.ulowell.edu> callahanj@woods.ulowell.edu writes:

>Has anyone ever travelled and stayed on Sable Island, Nova Scotia?  I have
>always been fascinated with this relic of the acient lands of the coastal
>shelf.  I believe it is off limits to civilians and is some sort of military
>base but I am not sure.

>Does anyone know more?

>John

>CALLAHAN@LIBVAX.ULOWELL.EDU 

This past summer I asked the Nova Scotia tourist people about travel
and accommodation on Sable Island and if I remember correctly they said
that there is only charter service by boat or seaplane to get there
BUT that you have to have permission from the Federal Gov't of Canada
because it is a protected island -- something to do with the Ministry
of the Environment.  It sounded like what I had heard was being done
in the Galapolgos (sp?) -- mind you, I have aonly a very naive idea about
that too.  If anyone has any concrete info about Sable Island, please
post.

Don

Don McCreary                               phone: 902-867-5166
Psychology Department                        FAX: 902-867-5153
St. Francis Xavier University           Internet: mccreary@px1.stfx.ca
Antigonish, NS, Canada
From: mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Michel Fougeres)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: hotel in Pittsburgh?
Date: 12 Oct 92 03:30:55 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.rec.travel: 11-Oct-92 hotel in Pittsburgh? by
Steve Cisler@Apple.COM 
>From: sac@Apple.COM (Steve Cisler)
>Subject: hotel in Pittsburgh?
>Date: 11 Oct 92 14:16:05 GMT
> 
> 
> I am going to Pittsburgh in a couple of weeks for a conference
>at the downtown Hilton. I've not had good experinces with that
>expensive chain, so I'd like to stay near there and pay less.
> 
>Any suggestions for something within 10 blocks?
> 
You can try the William Penn Hotel, it IS within 10 blocks from the
Hilton and the airport vans always make a stop there.  The William Penn
gives you a pleasant ambiance of the Old World -- even though it has all
modern facilities.

=== Michel Fougeres

=====================================================================

The length of a minute depends on which side of the bathroom door you're on.
Organization: Valencia University (Universitat de Valencia)   SPAIN
Date: Wednesday, 7 Oct 1992 14:17:52 EST
From: <GABRIEL@EVALUN11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Greece


Hi, I am going next week to Greece (Rhodas) and I plan sailing
along the Greek coast. Does somebody can recommend me some places
to visit? and weather reccomendations? Thank you.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: daver@ldgo.columbia.edu (dave reynolds)
Subject: Grand Cayman
Keywords: Grand Cayman, honeymoon
Organization: Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 22:49:34 GMT

Hi Netters,

My sister-in-law is getting married and therefore going on a honeymoon.
She is interested in the Caribbean and is especially interested in
the Cayman Islands.  She will be going on her honeymoon in mid-November.
Has anyone taken a vacation to the Caymans (Caymen?) recently?  Any 
input about hotels, restaurants, sightseeing, etc. would be most
appreciated.  Please post or e-mail daver@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu
Thanks!



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* David Reynolds		  	E-mail:daver@lamont.ldgo.columbia.edu *
* Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory	     All views are my own, etc.       *
* Palisades, NY 			 "You can't tell which way the train  *
*					    went by looking at its tracks"    *
*******************************************************************************

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: leff@sco.COM (Bill Leff)
Subject: Guanajuato, Mexico
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 23:26:47 GMT

I'd be interested in hearing from folks who have
visited Guanajuato. Looking for recommendations
etc.

All replies appreciated!

-Bill Leff
-- 
-------------------------
The number one reason why we're here (from David Letterman's Top 10):
"To polka, baby, polka"
From: wsun@jeeves.ucsd.edu (Fiberman)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: need cheap airline ticket
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:44:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: sdcc12.39343
Organization: University of California, San Diego

Hi, 

I am looking for cheap airfare/vouchers on flights from LA to NY
or Philly area in mid-December.  Let me know if you can help me!

Thanks!

-fm
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: sjk5866@tamsun.tamu.edu (Sara Jean Klabunde           )
Subject: Travel Newsletters
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:49:29 GMT


Can someone recommend some good travel newsletters?  And would someone
be willing to send me copies that they are finished with so I could see
if they are worth a subsciption.

E-mail appreciated.

-sjk

Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: trinidad@evax3.eng.fsu.edu
Subject: Stone Mountain, Atlanta Ga.??
Organization: Famu/Fsu College of Engineering
Date: 6 Oct 92 20:15:01 EST

Me again... trying to decide where to take/surprise my boyfriend..

Has anybody visited STONE MOUNTAIN PARK in Atlanta Georgia??  I'm looking at
the brochure and it looks like a "wonderous site".  But I'd like to know
the cost of things there.  I hear it's a national park so to get in it's $5, 
but how about the skylift,restaurants,campground rentals,hotel,etc

Any help will be greatly appreciated.........I'm deciding between this or
                                                            EPCOT center.

thanks,

Georgina
trinidad@evax.eng.fsu.edu
FAMU/FSU College of Engineering
Tallahassee Florida
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: GE.PPS@forsythe.stanford.edu (ps)
Subject: Accomodation needed in Tucson AZ - Can you help?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 00:42:20 GMT

Sorry to bother you all, but in case someone new is reading this
bborad, here is a second request.

Does anyone know of a house/apt/condo for rent or exchange in
Tucson AZ for the 4-5 days of the gem and mineral show?
I know the hotels are booked due to the show, so I am trying to
get there in some alternate way.
Thanks,
Paula     (415) 493-1453     ge.pps@stanford.bitnet
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: GET ME OUT OF LOS ANGELES
Date: 15 Oct 92 22:43:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: ads.1992Oct15.224342.1764
Distribution: usa
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

No, sorry, you have to stay there.

In article <1b720bINNij8@aludra.usc.edu> fishkin@usc.edu (Stephanie Fishkin) writes:
>We've got this Weds and Thurs off and we want to take a mini-vacation.
>We want to get OUT of Los Angeles.
>We are willing to drive up to 2 hrs (2 1/2 OK) one way to get there.
>
>Where should we go?  What should we see there?  Where should we stay and
>eat?

This is going to reach you too late, but unless you have a special
interest in desert (Mojave?  Barstow?  Twentynine Palms?  Palm
Springs?), or you really want to go to San Diego, seems like your best
bet would be Santa Barbara.  No, it's not cheap.

I've stayed at the Miramar, which is the blue-roofed facility you can
see from 101, right on the beach.

The trouble is that two hours' drive is barely sufficient to escape
either of the California megacities.  Sure, up here in the Bay Area
you can get to Napa or to Monterey, but that's almost not far enough
away to really escape.

I'd be interested in finding out where you really did go.

Charleen
--
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From: pabo@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Eric Pabo)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:03:01 GMT
Subject: Re: Denver-3 days
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO