From: erics@infoserv.com (Eric S. Smith)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Dan's BOOK!
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 08:48:06 PDT
Organization: Reigning Cats and Dogs
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acsca@UMASSD.EDU writes:

> Isn't it funny how Bill is agreeing with alot of Bush's policies.       

Yeah, like abortion rights, gays in the military, and taxing those with
incomes greater than $200,000/year?

> I don't want to misquote you or anything but it seems to me that you believe
> that a "true liberal" would be this country's answer.
>     And that a moderate who is a democrat (Clinton), is O.K. 
> But a Republican moderate (Bush, who was occasionlly conservative) is bad.
> And even worse, a true conservative would be Disasterous. 

This is the problem with Republicans: they're so far right they think
Bush is a moderate. And because of that they think they must have lost
the election because they didn't nominate someone even further to the
right. Well keep on thinking that, and the Democrats will own the White
House for the forseeable future.

>     Well, "liberal" today,
> does not mean "open-minded" as far as politics goes, it means they believe in:
> 
> Abortion on demand (up to 9 months)

A large majority in the U.S. favors abortion rights. It was the
Reagan/Bush/Quayle regime that was out of touch with the American people
on this one.

> Tax the American people as much as we can

Unfortunately we have to increase taxes now (even Bush realized that,
even though he lied about it in the 1988 campaign), because the last
12 years of Republican rule ran the country on deficit spending, mortgaging
the next generation's income to line the pockets of rich businessmen
and military contractors. If nothing else, history should nail the Reagan
economic policies for this.

> return the money to the people but pay state workers to do it, and in a wasteful 
>   manner, on pork barrel projects

Reagan/Bush didn't return the money to the people at all.

> Increase the salary of everyone, especially congress (regardless if they deserve it or not)

"Everyone"?

> promote homosexuality

The right wing code phrase for opposing discrimination, something this
country was really founded on (see below).

> degrade, and trivialize the Jewish, and Christian beliefs 
>   (which is what the Constitution was founded on) 

What!!??! I defy you to make a case for this. You right-wingers think
you own the foundations of this country, and therefore its founding
principles must be the same as yours. Have you even read the Constitution?
It is mostly a pragmatic document, simply laying out the basis on which
a practical government was organized. It says absolutely nothing about
Judeo-Christian "beliefs". It doesn't even mention religion, execept
in the first Amendment, where "free exercise" of religion (unspecified)
is guaranteed. This nation's founders were not fundamentalist religious
types; they were secular humanists from the Age of Enlightenment tradition,
who believed that government should "promote the general welfare" and
that religion should be kept separate. The authors of the Constitution
would be horrified at the attempts of today's Religious Right to inject
their particular religious beliefs into the politics and laws of this
country.

> Make sure the Government controls everything

Not everything; each party has their own list of things they want to
control. The Democrats want to control the economy, while the Republicans
want to leave it to the businessmen (yes, I mean *men*). The Republicans
want to control morality, while the Democrats want to leave it to individual
conscience. Personally, after seeing how leaving the economy to the
businessmen has left the country, I'll choose the Democrats hands-on
method there, and hands-off my morality.

> Dictate political correctness (Just spew bull shit)
> Label anyone who opposes their point of view "Close-minded, a Bigot, or a Facist"

You mean like you've been doing in this posting.

> And Yes Danno is not that bright,
> but he's alot brighter than the liberals of today.

Haven't you ever read the QuayleQuotes file?

Well, personally I think it's humorous how the right-wingers have condemned
the Clinton administration before he's even been in office. When Reagan
was elected in 1980 I thought it was a black day for the country, that
he couldn't keep his campaign pledges to cut taxes, raise military spending
*and* balance the budget, and that the right-wing would attempt to legislate
their morality on everyone. Turns out I was right, but at least I was
willing to give him a chance to see what he could do. Today you right-wingers
are on the other side: you're out of step with the country and the times,
and you're so rooted in the past that you've closed your mind to even
the possibility of constructive change. Well, keep thinking that way
and you'll be outside looking in for a lot of years to come.

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Eric Smith
erics@infoserv.com
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