From: AS.DCB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Dan Blomquist)
Subject: Re: Minors right of access to contraceptives?
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 15:43:33 GMT

In article <7-1jqwc.rfelix@netcom.com>,
rfelix@netcom.com (Robbie Felix) writes:
>(Dan Blomquist) writes:
>
>>Right - and look at where we are today.  STD's that defy medical
>>treatment.
>
>STDs are diseases. They are public health problems. They  are spread
>by bacteria and/or viruses that do not discriminate against people of
>certain religions. The more we try to make them sound like punishment
>for the decay of morals the more people behave in denial.   <<
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    -- This is a sorry state of our minds when this happens. --

The rest of what I wrote was something like "one partner for
life"...  which  means that if there is only one partner for each,
then there can not be the spread of any STD.  STD's do not spread by
air, why do you think they are called sexually transmitted deseases.
My wife and I are not infected with anything, and I know a lot of
couples who are not.  I do not know of people who are infected and
I really don't care to find out "by taking a survey or something".
That is not my business, I consider that private.

>In the past diseases like leperousy, schizophrenia, epilepsy, etc were
>treated as though they were some kind of scourge for someone's sins.
>We all know it isn't so.

Agreed......but you don't get leperousy or epilepsy, etc, from
having sex with everybody and anybody either.

>>AIDS which can not be controlled because the people with
>>AIDS can not control themselves.
>>I hurt - I want to live my life the way I want to and nobody is
>>going to stop me!"

Robbie - this is a misquote again, :-(  -- I did not say "I hurt"..
that is the end of some beginning words which I can not exactly
remember at this time.  Prob  "I don't care who I hurt"...

>The vast majority of AIDS infection was spread by people who didn't
>know they were infected. Hemophiliacs and blood recipients had no idea
>that they were infected early on. Most homosexual people didn't know
>they were infected for YEARS after infection. I cannot speak for
>drug addicts as most seem to be committing slow suicide anyway.

This is true, but some of those who know are not doing anything to
protect their "meaningful one-night realationship" partners!  Nor
are the partners sometimes concerned, thus a whole bunch of radio
ads in our area about when you sleep with somebody, who did your
partner sleep with last night or last week, etc......
>
>This is judgemental moralizing at its worst. The few cases of people
>who knowingly transmitted AIDS to others are the 1-in-a-million case.
>To presume that hundreds of thousands of people knowingly transmitted
>HIV because they were looking for a little fun and didn't care who
>suffered is absurd. To suggest that the people with AIDS are evil,
>callous and cruel like this is exactly that, evil, callous and cruel.

OK I'll concede a little judgemental if you want about AIDS, but I
was trying to talk in general terms about the "me generation" which
you cut out and moved below.  And you did not understand my ""
around the word nobody, so  ......   In general, the people of this
generation are in a "me first" and then everybody else second.  We
have not come to the place where we are always thinking of the other
person first, and having a servant attitude.
>>
>>"Nobody" cares about the other person anymore - it is a "Me
>>generation world"...
>
>It is incredibly sad to say that no one cares about anyone anymore.
>Personally, I do care about the people with AIDS who are suffering and
>dying. I care about the teenagers who must make painful decisions in a
>difficult world. I care about those who are harshly judged by others
>who haven't a place in their hearts for those less fortunate .
>
>The place caring begins is with you, with me. It is not some "out
>there" kind of thing. It is not something to be done by everybody
>else. All we can do is mind our own lives. If you feel you have time
>to monitor everybody else's "care quotient" you ought to think about
>doing some volunteer work. You would probably feel a lot better about
>the world.
>
>rf

I won't list my volunteer projects, because I will probably get
flamed or something.

Dan
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