From: lip@s1.gov (Loren I. Petrich)
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: THE IMPLICATIONS OF ABORTION ON OUR SOCIETY
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:29:28 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Labs, Livermore CA

In article <1992Apr12.234431.19098@liebe.uucp> kevin@liebe.uucp (Kevin Brawley) writes:
>mills@uga.edu (Kathi Mills) writes:

>>This statement is so blatantly wrong it's funny.  More than half of
>>what most people consider the bible is composed of the Old Testament.
>>I defy you to come up with so much as TWO PAGES of ANY O.T. book
>>that do not contain any reference to gratuitous violence, especially
>>killing.  Most "christians" conveniently ignore the mind-boggling
>>crimes their god committed in that part of their holy book by saying
>>"The O.T. is no longer valid," then hypocritically bringing up the
>>OLD TESTAMENT commandement, "Thou shalt not commit murder."

>Interesting how you consider yourself (a non-Christian I presume) an
>authority on everything relating to Christianity.  The Bible doesn't
>contain ANY "gratuitous" violence.  It is a history book and records
>the actions of mankind (inherently violent).  God committed crimes?
>My, that is a new one.  You mean the destruction of the pagan nations?
>Remember the Supreme Being is as Righteous as He is Loving (who can
>blame Him, He's God!).

	Here is a selection from my Biblical Satanic Verses (available
by e-mail), which should give you people a lot to flame over:

Genocide -- After concluding that most of humanity is wicked beyond
redemption (isn't he capable of reforming anyone?) God decides to
slaughter all but 8 of humanity in Noah's Flood. Also, (Deuteronomy
7:12), we learn that the Promised Land is for the Israelites, and not
for the Hittites, the Girgashites, the Amorites, the Canaanites, the
Perizzites, the Hivites, or the Jebusites; these peoples are to be
exterminated without mercy. The Israelites proceed to do just that
(according to their own account); they kill (Numbers 21:25,
Deuteronomy 2:34) the Amorites of Heshbon, (Numbers 21:34,35) the
followers of Og, (Joshua 6) practically all the people of Jericho,
(Joshua 10:28-40) all the people of Makkedah, Libnah, Lachish, Gezer,
Eglon, Hebron, and the surrounding landscape, (Judges 1:18-19) the
people of Gaza, Askelon, and Ekron, (Judges 3:29) 10,000 Moabites,
(Judges 1:4) 10,000 Perizzites and Canaanites, (Judges 4:16) "all the
hosts of Sisera", (Judges 8:10) 120,000 Midianites, (1 Samuel
14:12,13,20) the Philistines, (1 Samuel 11:11) the Ammonites, (1
Samuel 15:3,7) the Amalekites, etc. etc. etc. About this last, we are
told that Samuel found fault with King Saul because he did not try to
kill all the sheep and cattle; killing all the people evidently was
not enough. There is an interesting exception, we find (Numbers
25:16,17, 31:7,8) that the Israelites were supposed to kill all the
men and married women of the Midianites; the unmarried women who have
not gone to bed with any man the Israelites can keep for themselves.
Such is the "Final Solution of the Canaanite Question". The only
justification other than "the land is for us, not for them" that is
ever presented is given in Leviticus (which describes none of these
great victories), where we are told that they practiced homosexual
acts and other wicked things -- right after where it states that male
homosexual acts should be punished by death to all participants. Not
only Canaanites were to suffer, consider (Psalm 137) a lamentation of
being exiled to Babylon, where we learn that "Babylon will be
destroyed.  Happy is the one who pays you back, who takes your babies
and smashes them against a rock." That this activity is contrary to a
certain one of the "Ten Commandments" nobody seems to notice.