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From: jsimmons@cs.sunysb.edu (Jason Simmons)
Subject: Re: Patching the menu manager
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 14:52:35 GMT

In article <BzGv1o.1zC@CAM.ORG> vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) writes:
>mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage) writes:
>
>>In article <BzD8FB.FJE@CAM.ORG>, vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) wrote:
>>> For a program I am writing I need to patch the MenuSelect call in the Menu
>>> Manager.
>>
>>As was stated in an earlier post by me, you may just _think_ you need to
>>patch MenuSelect to do what you want to do.
>>
>>So tell us what it is you want to do, and maybe we can tell you how to do
>>it in a way that will be finished before Dick Clark ages.
>>
>
>Okay. I want to write some sort of accessory (either an Init or an NDA) so
>menus can be accessed without using the mouse, in a manner similar to
>MicroSoft's (on the IBM) or ProTerm (but on the desktop).
>

One alternative might be a patch to SystemEvent, which processes events
and reports whether they were handled by a DA or should be sent to the
application.  The patch should look at the event record information
passed to SystemEvent and determine if it wants to handle that event
or pass it on.  If the event has the appropriate type, perform your
action and return TRUE (signifying the event was processed by a DA).
Otherwise, call the real SystemEvent.

Jason Simmons
From: jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L. Brookes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: The Apple II Now and Forever
Date: 12 Dec 92 18:49:11 GMT
Organization: California State University, Chico
NNTP-Posting-Host: hairball.ecst.csuchico.edu

In article <Bz5H7q.908@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu> 
dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett) writes:
>Matt, it's over at Apple Computer for us Apple IIers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, we
>have great developers, but how is Apple gonna help us? No way. Who's gonna
>revise our System Software? No one. The Apple IIgs will be dead by 1993, we
>know it, it's a confirmed rumor, unless Apple changes their mind. At Apple,
>we've reached the point of no return. (Or atleast with the IIgs, what are
>they gonna do? Hold on to the IIe for a year and then drop it too?)
>
>What about "Apple II Forever", Matt? What about that? Lack of support is one
>thing, but having our forefathers lie to us is another.

Roy, this is the kind of bullshit that got you PERMINANTLY banned from 
#appleiigs. 

Have fun moping in your little corner.  Maybe you can indulge your puerile
mind memorizing the cracks in the paint.

>Roy Barrett.                                           This news gateway seems
>(also root@dsdd.core.fvnet.org soon!)                to have a serious problem
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From: dockery@griffin.cuc.ab.ca (Sean Dockery)
Subject: re-entrant programs
Organization: Synchrotron Software Group, Calgary, Alberta
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 20:47:00 GMT

This is a repost of a message which (should have) appeared on
comp.sys.apple2 a little while ago.  I received no responses to the
message so I can only assume that it was lost in the internet.

---repost starts---

I have often heard the term describing software to be "re-entrant."
The context under which I have heard it most used was an opinion that
the Apple IIgs tools and GS/OS would be easier to work with if they
were re-entrant.

Would someone please enlighten me with the answers to the following:

	o What qualifies an application as re-entrant?
	o What are some examples of re-entrant software?
	o What are some advantages and disadvantages of an application
	   that is re-entrant?
	o Are re-entrant applications significantly larger that
	   others that perform the same task?

Thankyou for your time.

---repost ends---

I have managed to elicit responses from a few friends that a
re-entrant program or routine ``makes no assumptions about the
variables it uses,'' which I have interpreted to mean that a job can
be interupted and resumed without any adverse effects by calling an
specific entry point in the routine.  Is this correct?

If it is, doesn't that simply mean that a dispatcher should handle
variable initialization and call the desired routine while direct
calls to the routine (or an entry point therein) with variables
predetermined (left untouched from a previous call) for that routine
will just enable the routine to continue its unfinished task?

From reading comp.sys.apple2, I believe that Jawaid Bazyar and Dave
Lyons appear to have a handle on what I want to know, and I would
appreciate a response from either of you.

sean
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Stop IBM Pirate Lamers!
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 19:01:39 GMT

irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:
>Ok, here's the situation:  IBM pirate lamers running an Apple II+ emulator
>have stuffed pub/nyet/apple2em/ on cco.caltech.edu with copyright disk images
>and ROM images.  Todd Whitesel can do nothing about this since that's not
>his area of the archive.  Therefore, if as many of you as possible send protest

Hey, don't flood them!  The copyrighted disk images (karateka, Bolo,
etc.) got nuked over a month ago.  Take a look and see if there's
anything new, but I don't see anything on a quick peruse.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: dcs@neutron.chem.yale.edu (Dave Schweisguth)
Subject: Sierra Sequels for sale
Organization: Yale University
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:17:17 GMT

Hi all,

Space Quest II and King's Quest III and IV, for the IIgs, all with manuals,
in original boxes, etc.  Say ten bucks apiece, less if you want 'em all. Make
me an offer.

Please mail.

Cheers,

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Project Apple Storm: The Empire Strikes Back
Date: 14 Dec 1992 06:39:05 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:

[ quoted post -- amusing but sad -- of Ernie Moore's deleted ]

>Note, I (Ian Schmidt) don't necessarily endorse or condemn the opinions 
>in the above text, I am simply providing it for your information.  Please
>don't flame me :-)

Heck no. Thanks for posting this over here -- it removes any doubts in my
mind as to what Ernie Moore is up to. I feel sorry for the poor guy, he needs
a good shot of reality more than his perceived enemies.

Apple _does_ need to act to provide a solid, dependable support mechanism for
everyone who owns their "orphaned" machines (this includes old macs too!) --
this is a good business decision for them because present owners of Apple
machines will be far more inclined to stay with Apple when they finally _do_
upgrade. But we have to give them a chance to grind the corporate gears and
try a plan or two before drastic and illegal action like Ernie's is anywhere
near warranted!

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6.0 Reliability
Date: 11 Dec 92 21:28:52 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <SKNKWRKS.92Dec10194050@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu> sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) writes:
>Is it just me, or is System 6.0 an awfully flaky system?

It's just you.

I've spent a *LOT* of time messing around with GS/OS, and I have yet to find a
single bug.  Thought I had one once, but MattD straightened me out.

Check your RAM.  Run the Claris test for a few hours.

I've got a Zip, a RamFAST, and all the usual misc goodies that go with a
"power" system.  No problems here that I can't trace to a specific program.

>  _/_   Scott Alfter                             Internet: sknkwrks@cs.unlv.edu

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From: Brenden.Gilbert@ofa123.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Hmm
X-Sender: newtout 0.02 Nov 17 1992
Date: 13 Dec 92  23:39:46

    This is a test post.. please ignore.

--- Maximus 2.00
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: jmk3@crux3.cit.cornell.edu (Jay M. Krell)
Subject: Re: IIgs upgrade options
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 15 Dec 92 08:01:22 GMT

>From: bing@zinc.cchem.berkeley.edu (Bing Ho)
>Subject: IIgs upgrade options
 
There have been 3 versions of the IIGS ROM and 2 versions of the motherboard.
The original motherboard shipped with ROM 0 and 256K. A few months later, it
shipped with ROM 1 and a free upgrade was available. There was also an upgrade
for the VGC chip and IIGS's also started including a memory card with 256K.
 
In 1989, what Apple calls the "1 MB IIGS" was released. It has 1 MB on the
motherboard and ROM 3. 2 was skipped to create...err...prevent confusion. ROM 3
is a little better and faster than ROM 1, but you don't need it and can't
upgrade to it. An Apple employee did tell me the upper chip in the ROM 3 set
works on a ROM 1 motherboard, but I think one of use misunderstood each other,
since it is likely that the code in banks FE and FF calls code in banks FC and
FD. But anyway, ROM 1 is good enough.
 
On the other hand, you are right, not much runs with 512K. You need 1 MB to run
System 6, more is preferable. There is a 4 MB memory board selling for under
$150. Other parties have recommended it.
 
Your 512K IIGS already has a RAM card in it, but the max capacity of it is
likely 1 MB. You could get by with 1.25 MB, but it is recommended that you
replace it with a higher capacity baord.
 
>should I go to the new operating system?
 
If you have a hard drive (definitely recommended) there's no reason not to use
System 6.0, the latest version of the operating system.
 
  --Jay, jay.krell@cornell.edu
From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: MODifier
Date: 13 Dec 1992 04:25:08 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

irsman@iastate.edu (That Ian Guy) writes:

>BSC is a shell utility by Neil Parker.  Due to a conflict with the libraries
>it doesn't compile under DEC RISC Ultrix 4.1 or 4.2.  Neil will hopefully fix
>this (he's looking into it).  

Has he tried removing the "b" mode letter from fopen() ? Ultrix chokes on it.

>QuadraScope is part of MODZap 0.85, not a separate program.  The jukebox in
>MZ is controllable to some extent with the keyboard.  RTFM.

What manual? Especially since it's not even released yet.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: BD: ZIPGSX 9mhz/32K Questions
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:54:35 GMT

In article <1992Dec20.222609.3330@zip.eecs.umich.edu> grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas) writes:

[ ]
>
>I don't know about the programs crashing, but a recent GS+ disk from
>GS+ magazine had a CDev that fixed the cursor flicker on Zipped systems.

Yes, that CDEV works nicely. An alternative is Todd's Zipfix. It works
great.
 
Philip
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
From: 90taobri@BLUFFS.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: archiving GIF files on the GS
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:13:17 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

The following revelation escaped Jimmy Shaw's lips:
> 
> I was wondering if anyone's figured out a way to archive GIF files on
> the GS.  As far as I know, GIF files can't really be compressed,
> in terms of saving space.

    You can think of GIF is simply another archive format, like NuFX or
PKZIP or ARJ.  If you want to get better compression, you would have to
convert the GIF back to raw image data and then use some other technique
(like JPEG).  Trying to compress a GIF itself won't get you very far.

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From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6.0 Reliability
Date: 13 Dec 92 23:58:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: MuGS Research and Development Facility

The following revelation escaped Scott Alfter's lips:
> 
> Is it just me, or is System 6.0 an awfully flaky system?

    Do you have the Easy Access INIT installed?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: lunatic@netcom.com (Lunatic Johnathan Bruce E'Sex)
Subject: Re: Info AOL
Organization: Netcom; Renegade User
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 09:12:21 GMT

In article <lb60303@pro-storm.cts.com> bill@pro-storm.cts.com (Bill Long, Sysop) writes:
>In <1992Dec10.203900.16788@news.columbia.edu>
>stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) writes:
>
>>The pricing is competitive...  Genie is a litle more when you leave
>>basic services, I think it's $4.95/hr (basic services) $6.95/hr (other
>>services).  The Apple 2 sections would be considered other services.
>
>Correction: GEnie is $4.95 flat for the entire month, as long as you stay
>within Basic Services. If you stray out of Basic Services, then it is $6/hr
>(or $6.95 or whatever... I don't remember). :)  Oh yeah, these are the
>non-prime rates, BTW.
 
 
    ][t's $6/hour for the non-Basic services.  Just remember:
 $6.00 -> 60 minutes.  That's for 300/1200/2400 bps.  GEnie also
 has 9600 bps access ($18/hour), which I don't think AOL even has,
 yet.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: fh30@rummelplatz.uni-mannheim.de ()
Subject: Communication Software wanted ??
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 14:18:42 GMT
Organization: Uni Mannheim - FHT Mannheim , Germany

Hi folks,
I have a little problem with my good old APPLE 2+. 
I want to transfer my old files ( ASCII ,  mostly) to an IBM Format.
But i haven't an good working Seriell Card. 
For some weeks I get the old good Seriell Card ( Original By Apple), but I
don't how to install and to work with ...

Also i haven't any software to transfer programms or so on ...

My Hardware  cofiguration is the following :

16 KByte Card ( totaly 64 KByte), 80-Column Card, Parallel Printer Card.

I have CP/M. 

Does someone in the world give me help in the follwing problems :


Can someone in the world help me  in the following problems :

a, Exists under CP/M a possiblity to tranfer files ?
b, Where I can get A useful Transfer Software ?
c, Where I can get a software to handle with an modem ?
d, Exist the posibility to read Apple2 Disks with an IBM Floppy Disk ?
e, Where I can get a program to read the Disks ??

Thank you in advance, and excuse me my problems with the coorect spelling, but
english isn't my native language .

Please repost or sent me direct an email to the following adress :

75535@novell1.rz.fht-mannheim.de   or
englmann@posthorn.informatik.uni-kl.de


Bye,....

 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Subject: Kurta ADB Tablets...
Reply-To: stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 07:24:14 GMT

	To all of you Kurta Tablet owners...  Please leave me some
email.  I'd like to compile a list of those with Kurta tablets for
their GS's...  It can be either the IS/GS or the IS/ADB tablets.

Thanks

Steven Chiang                  Order - DreamGrafix:  The ONLY 16/256/3200
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu       color paint program for the Apple IIGS.
America On_Line:  DWS Steve
Genie:  S.Chiang4              Apple IIGS Forever!
From: nyet@cco.caltech.edu (n liu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Stop IBM Pirate LamerZ (there's a word I haven't seen in a while)
Date: 15 Dec 1992 22:20:31 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher-gw.caltech.edu

I'd thought i'd post here to clear a few things up. First off, seeing as I
had no idea this group existed, i'm surprised to find out that people are still
actually USING apple ]['s for anything else but eprom burners. Imagine my
surprise when, two days ago, my mailbox was flooded by two (2) simultaneous
whiny bitches. One of the authors was kind enough to include Ian's little
"ST0P IBM PIRATE LAMERZ KILLER WAREZ BBS B0ARD" post (but nothing but
deafening silence from the BIFF clone himself).

Secondly, the incoming directory, as was pointed out, was deleted a LONG time
ago. I had no idea anybody gave a rats ass about software that is DECADES old.
(Repeat after me kiddies: YOU MUST CHILL).

The rom file fell through the sieve when I initially audited the incoming dir,
and is now gone. The ideal solution, of course, would be to replace it with
instructions to dump the (super-duper whizbang high-tech proprietary) ROMS
by hand, but I haven't gotten around to it.

The archive was initially started a few years back since there was NO
documentation on transferring images and Randy Spurlock had disappeared from
view for a few years.  I'd thought it would be a hell of a novelty to start up
the site (seeing the apple basic prompt certainly brought back memories) and
there was enough of a demand for supplemental stuff to actually put something
of use there. Odds are, of course, that i'll nuke the frigging archive myself
soon, seeing as i'm finally escaping from this god-forsaken hellhole in a
few weeks. If anybody actually here still wants the stuff (there IS a new
version that Randy just cranked out) ask Todd to copy it over before it goes.

Finally, i'd like to ask Apple to blow me (they haven't made anything useful
since the apple ]['s) and to say hi to Derwoods's (uh, Darren's) Other Half
and House Security Risk (you know who you are ;-).

Oh, and stop bugging Heather (root@cco). She's asked all respondents to send
their flames here (I promise i'll listen). She's got enough to worry about
without a gaggle of self-important newbie net-police taking the high moral
ground at her.

Peace,
Nye
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Zip Chips
From: lcornel@eis.calstate.edu (Louis Cornelio)
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 08:19:19 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

> They have stopped making the ZipChip 8mhz
>for the //e. There was problems with the people that made the chip for
>it and they had thousands of bad ones.
 
That explains why Zip Tech was so evasive about dealing w/ it. I sent a
defective one back to them Registered mail --- they claimed they never got it.
The Post Office tracked it & sure enough, they HAD received it. My postal
connection told me that they do that all they time, ie. claim non-receipt of
returns, probably as a delaying tactic....
 
I got tired of waiting (5 mo.) for a replacement, & just asked for the old one
back. It worked OK w/ everything but Pub.It3
 
caveat emptor.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: behrenss@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Advice on Hierarchical Menus sought
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:09:08 GMT

Hi,

this is something I have played with for quite some time now, and I
wonder if someone (Matt?) could give me some input on this.

What I want to do is have a way to implement hierarchic menus, and
that w/o a lot of effort to the programmer who has to use them
afterwards.

I've looked into the problem a bit, one idea was to do it as a custom
menu ... but I'm not quite sure that would really work that well, unless
I supplied a bunch of extra routines to deal with it in a user tool.

I do not care about multiple levels, having hierarchic menu entries that
just trigger a (non-hierarchic) pop-up would be just fine as far as I'm
concerned. Also, I won't think about hierarchic pop-ups right now, just
"normal" bar menus.

One problem is: If I do this as a custom menu, which routine would handle
the hierarchic stuff? mChoose? Not really what it is supposed to do. So,
do I have to write my own menu manager subset?

Some insight on this would be great

Soenke

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: philip@utstat.toronto.edu (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Re: Floptical instead of SuperDrive?
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:45:16 GMT

In article <1gv6chINNnfn@gap.caltech.edu> toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:

[ ]
>
>The Floptical can already exchange 1.44MB disks with Macintoshes. To me, it is
>a great interim product, and will keep me chugging until long after the MO
>devices are well established...

Doesn't the Floptical use special 3.5" floppies? That is, can you use an 
ordinary floppy with one and transfer stuff from a Mac (on a 1.44meg floppy)?
Is the floptical faster than a floppy drive?
 
Philip McDunnough
philip@utstat.toronto.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: gadget@engin.umich.edu (Timothy David Sharpe)
Subject: Apple ][c to Apple ][e upgrade
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 01:21:14 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

A friend of mine has several games for the ][e which he would like to 
be able to play.  However, he doesn't want to part with his ][c.  Does
anyone have the upgrade who would be willin to donate/sell it?

Thanks (email response appreciated)
Tim

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz)
Subject: Re: Zip Wide-Narrow sockets
Organization: Warner Lambert / Parke-Davis
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 15:30:22 GMT

In article <BzJ9vE.8C4@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu> dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett) writes:
>I was wanting to know if I could go to a Radio Shack and get a "Socket Adaptor"
>of some sort that would allow me to put my SRAMs into a Socket Adaptor, or the
>narrow socket, and put the narrow socket into the wide socket.  My objective,
>is trying to get my Cache in without soldering.  I don't want to ruin my Zip.
>
>

I was wondering about the same modification. In the Digi-Key catalog (#925)
on page 52 there are adaptor sockets which may do the trick. (I don't know
much about "parts" so if someone else can take a look in the catalog and
tell us if these adaptors would do the job -- I'd appreciate it!!).
  
Oh, these adaptors come in either 24 pin or 28 pin configuration. How many
pins on the SRAMS?

Here is the Digi-Key specifics:

# pins     Description      Digi-Key part #   Price (each)
~~~~~~     ~~~~~~~~~~~      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   ~~~~~~~~~~~~  
 24       .600 to .300      A503               $8.26
 28       .600 to .300      A504               $9.21

Now, I know these are expensive but if we can't or don't want to risk
soldering, what else can we do?

Paul Schultz
schultp@wl.com

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