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From: thumper@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Chris Mojica)
Subject: What connections etc do I need to make my amp easily removable
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:26:50 GMT

Has anyone ever mounted their amp so that It is easily taken out so that
they don't have to worry about it being stollen??  The same concept of as
the removable deck except for an amp.  Since I don't have an alarm system
I am really afraid to leave my amp in the car and I would prefer to take
the amp out when not in use and leave it in my room seeing that I don't
drive my vehicle much during the week.  

Thanks for any info.
-Chris

Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: gianos@leland.Stanford.EDU (Edward Alexander Gianos)
Subject: Re: Opinion on Denon Amps...
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:24:57 GMT

In article <92288.103301DMW122@psuvm.psu.edu> <DMW122@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>A friend of mine is willing to sell me a DENON DCA 3500 amplifier.
>
>                                                           Duane Whitlock
                                                           DMW122@psuvm.psu.edu

I couldn't find the model # in either the CA&E or CSR Buyers' Guide.  It
wasn't mentioned in my bag o' product literature either.  I guess that means
it is a couple of years old.  Would someone please dig up the specs for
this for this guy?
 
Also, Duane, what is the guy going to sell it to you for?  Post the power
ratings, price, and what you want to do with it, and some people here
will be able to give you really good advice.  (I know, they have helped me!)
 
My preference on amps is Alpine.  Not as expensive as PPI or Orion,  but
a damn good amp. (3527).  I also like my PQ10 and PP40 by a/d/s/, but I
really like my Alpine.
 
If you can't crank it........
 
Ed
gianos@leland.stanford.edu
From: tpremo@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Todd Premo)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Oppinions wanted: Ultimate 5 1/4" midbass for 2-way.
Summary: Is this speaker decent in the mid-midbass range?
Keywords: Ultimate speakers
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:56:58 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center


I am trying to design a system for a very limited budget.  With this 
in mind I have found a Ultimate 5 1/4" midbass driver that I would like
to mate with a Audax T-51 tweeter.
	Ultimate specs:

		80-10000Hz
		55w nom-  75w max
		mounting depth 2 1/4"  (key)
		
	I would like to know if anyone has had any experience with this 
driver or if anyone thinks that it would/would not fit my application.

	I am looking to cross this over at about 5000 Hz (as reccomended 
for the tweeter).
	The driver goes for $20ea in parts express.

	Thanks, 

	Todd
 


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From: v523d85n@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Robert C Maggio)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Best Amps
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:28:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1atbbvINN2ed@itude.hal.COM>, max@hal.COM (Harry Max) writes...
> 
> 
>	There's been an awful lot of Alpine bashing 
>	lately.  I've been considering a 45 watt per 
>	side Alpine stereo amp for my front speakers,  
>	which are Boston Acoustic Pro 6.2s.
> 
>	I already have an Alphasonic PMA 20-35 for 
>	the rear 6x9s.  Any comments or suggestions?

here are my comments-i know which amp you want, a friend has one in his car.
he uses it mercilessly every day for at least one hour and has done so for
about a year and  half.  no problems.

i have an alpine four channel amp, i used it to replace a rockford model,
and i couldnt be happier.  i like it better than any of the other amps ive
had over the years, like sony, rockford, yamaha, to name the better ones.

im sure that there are better amps out there, in my opinion these would 
include linear power, soundstream, even the orion high current amps,
but these are all much more expensive than the alpine.

itll sound tons better than your alphasonic, and itll be cost effective.
i think that alpine makes very good products, especially in the tape/cd
and amplifier departments.  dont be shy because of the bad experience with the
mans cd player-it is the ONLY complaint about alpine quality that i have EVER
heard.  considering that to most laymen, alpine is the greatest thing
since sliced bread, that is high praise.

rm
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: "chad thomas" <chad.thomas@canrem.com>
Subject: noise cancellation
Reply-To: "chad thomas" <chad.thomas@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:53:40 EST

Hi.

     RE: the noise stuff and headphones.  If memory serves me correctly,
it was Senheiser that experimented with it and installed it on Lufthansa
cockpits to alleviate pilot fatigue caused by long periods of exposure
to engine and wind noise.  It has worked successfully and they are
expanding their program.  I believe that there was an article on noise
cancellation and Senheiser's work in Audio magazine circa .. three four
months ago?!  Check Stereo Review as I am not sure who to credit.
Nissan has been doodling too; a prototype car is running somewhere.

Well, my 2.4CDN cents worth.

                         Chad Thomas for
                                  David  Argiropulos
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: "Gary A. Woodward" <p00140@psilink.com>
Subject: Re: Car antenna design help wanted
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 14:55:13 GMT
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

I've been in the car audio business for some time.  The very best 
scource on the workings of an ant sys. is an engineer with Richard
Hirschman in Nj.  His name is any Swenson.  I also have an acquaintence 
that has developed a micro ant. that has an included amp.  Since it's 
installed inside the car on the windsheild it will last longer.
good luck 
gw
From: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: SUBWOOFER "HELP!!!"
Date: 8 Oct 92 12:54:00 GMT
Reply-To: rob.runkle@cccbbs.UUCP (Rob Runkle)
Organization: Cincinnati Computer Connection BBS - Cincinnati, OH - 513-752-8248


        I have a '92' Civic SI and have even less room than you in back.
You should definitely use 1 or 2 10" subs.  This could eat up about 1/3
or maybe alittle more of you trunk/hatch.  I believe with most 10's you
will use about 1.5-2 cubic feet per sub.  As for brand...This is just a
matter of personal opinion.  I went with MTX Blue Thunders.  I went with
these because of cost and because they beat everyone else out in a 1990
Car Audio and Elec review of 10" subs.  Other good ones I know of are
Kicker, Fosgate and some more expensive ones are Bostan Acc. Pro. and
Infinity.  Just to name a few.  Like I said though...it is only
personal preferance that makes the final decision.
        Later,  Rob Runkle
                                                    
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From:  (Norman Petersen)
Subject: Re: Subwoofer "Help!!!"
Organization: SPS
Distribution: USA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:41:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.192851.1439@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu>, arashid@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
> 
> Hello,
> 	I am a college student.  I have a Honda accord '83.  I would 
> like to install two subs to run of my Orine amp.  I beleive it is a 
> 250sx.  I was wondering what kind of subs I should buy and how much 
> trunk space would I loose to get the bass sound that I want.  Anyones 
> help would be appreciated.  I can give you more specs if I get a 
> response. 
> 					Thank you,
> 					Abdul
> 
 I have the Orion 250sx in my truck and Iam using onlly one sub. I am running
the amp in a dual mode. That is the mids and tweeters are run on the left and 
right channels and the subwoofer in the brigded mode on the same amp. It 
sounds great and I have lots of low end. The subwoofer box is a 5th order box.
I do nott know the size of the box off the top of my head but it is small and
you can not over drive the speaker. My sub woofer is an 8" M&M. 

Norman Petersen



Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: ravalent@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Bob Valentine)
Subject: Re: SUB UNDER SEAT/KENWOOD AM
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 00:49:53 EDT

In article <26130092@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom) writes:
>	" It's time for Congress to tell the president to shove his 
>	veto pen up his deficit! "  
>					- Rep. Jim Traficant.
>----------
>Its time for Congress to give the president the "line item veto".
>
>             -Anyone that wants better government

  It's time to keep this political stuff out of r.a.c

              - 'nuff said
From: p00140@psilink.com (Gary A. Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Help - Stereo Problems
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:54:35 GMT
Organization: Performance Systems Int'l
X-Mailer: PSILink (3.2)

I worked for a warranty atation for gm ford chrysler,sony, kenwood, etc.
what kind of car?  Is it installed properly?  Are B+ and ign B+ attached properly?
Do you have a good ground on the unit?   If so you have a broken unit. 
The leading cause of is cold solders.

good luck.
From: ri09+@andrew.cmu.edu (Robert W. Igo)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: oil consumption
Date: 16 Oct 92 16:32:35 GMT
	<nataraja.719154011@mica>
	<1992Oct15.160618@usho21.hou281.chevron.com>
	<Bw6zFr.CnG@news.orst.edu>
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

In message <Bw6zFr.CnG@news.orst.edu>, 
 schottd@ucs.orst.edu (Derek Schott) writes:
>A person I knows has a 91 Ford Ranger, V-6 with about 21,000
>miles on it. He says that about every 4000 miles he changes the 
>oil and that it is down about 1/2 to 3/4 of a quart of oil. Is 
>this normal in this new of a vehicle. If so, why?
>
>:wq
>
>-- 
>=============================================================================
>* Derek Schott                                Mail:schottd@ucs.orst.edu     *
>* Department of Public Safety/OSP             Corvallis OR OSU              *
>=============================================================================

Chances are, his subwoofer is too powerful.  Such powerful resonance can
actually shake the oil out of tiny tiny pores in the engine block and
cause it to leak significantly.  I used to have a 300-Watt subwoofer,
and I cranked it pretty high.  My oil had to be changed once every
8000 miles, so I assume your friend must have about 600 Watts or so.

[******************************** Bob Igo ********************************]
"It ACTUALLY worked...." --Colin Baker as Dr. Who
[************************** ri09+@andrew.cmu.edu *************************]
From: holowczk@rwja.umdnj.edu (Richard Holowczak)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Tinted Windows
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:12:33 GMT
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

danclark@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Resident MacWizard 26/140 286-4405) writes:

>This might upset a lot of you, but tinted windows are not very smart.  
>You might as well put a sign on the back window that says "Break into 
>me".  Maybe the sign should say "Please Mr. Officer, pull me over".  
>Tinted windows do not look cool.  On second thought, keep your tinted 
>windows!  This way a theif will hit your car instead of mine.

>As a final note, I have been hit twice.  They have stolen over $1000 
>worth of equipment and have done another $1000 in damage to the car.
>GEICO hates my guts now.  I can happily say that I have been theif 
>free since I purchased my Excaliber alarm.

I just did a quick count as I walked to class today.  I say about 20 cars
with tinted windows.  At least 15 of them had one window which was not
tinted.  Usually it was a smaller window in the back or a vent window
in the front.  My conclusion?  Tinted windows attract attention and therefor
car thieves.  I would guess that the car owners have not had a chance to get
the new windows tinted since their break in.

Just my $.02


See ya,
Rich Holowczak
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Subject: Please unzip me...
Keywords: zip
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 00:01:45 GMT

  Got my Unzip tools. Thanks.

-- Tim
From: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: CD players and maintenance   (was Re: ALPINE SUCKS!! (still)
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:36:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: usenet.1bh7ohINN1qo
Reply-To: kmr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Keith M. Ryan)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, kirk@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Kirk Lindstrom) says:

>----------
>But the $64,000 question is:  "Who do you think is one of the biggest
>contributors to CSR's advertising revenue?"
>
>Don't get me wrong - I think Alpine makes a good product, but if someone 
>doesn't have unlimited funds, they are better off getting the BEST speakers
>they can and getting a less expensive CD player and amp.

I would certainly agree that dollar for dollar, speakers make a bigger 
difference at the lower to mid price range. You will hear more of a
difference between $100 to $300 speakers, then for head units.

One great, low cost system that I have recomended to several people, have
installed a couple, including my mother's and my father's car is an semi-
inexpensive headunit ( say ~$200 will get you a reasonable head unit with
dolby and RCA out ), an Alpine 3522 and a set of BA pro 5.2's. 

I have found 3522's for around $130 or so ( depending on location ), the
BA's for around $300/pr and the head unit. It makes a great sounding system
for around $700 with installation!

Want some more bass? 
	Add a single 10 or 12" for around $100-$150. Drive the Alpine in
multi-mode.

IMHO: get the best front end speakers you can afford. A great front end
with no rear speakers sounds much much better than average speakers front
and back. If you are worried about total volume, the BA pro line can take
alot of power.

-- 
	So there I was, snuggled in the leather seat of my brand new Ferreri.
I had the oiled wood gear shift in one hands, and the leather wrapped Momo in
the other. And, I had the stereo cranking _Born to be Wild_...
	Only one problem, I was unside down, under six feet of water...
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: st1q9@rosie.uh.edu (Devine, Della M)
Subject: remote removable faceplate?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:53:00 GMT

  I just bought a Pioneer DEH-880 Removeable face plate in dash
cd player.  I have been brainstorming on ways to install it in my blazer
without having to put it in an overhead center console or the stock mounting
spot.  I've thought about the center air conditioner duct in the dash pad
and it won't work in my center console (floor) as it would have to be
at a 90 deg angle from horizontal.  (i have a manual transmission so no
tall consoles are allowed)..
    Anyway,  I looked at the connection the face plate makes with the chassis
and noticed that there are only 14 connections.  I was looking at something
at possibly installing the chassis in an overhead console with just the
hole that you put the cd's into the chassis, accessible.  Sort of like
a one inch tall and 5-6 inch wide slot and nothing else.  Then making some
sort of extension cabling out of some good computer or networking cable
and installing the face plate in my sun visor or just setting it on the
center console and having it where i could take it outside with me or hand it
to a back passenger or something.  I would like to put the guts of it in the
overhead console so i can pop it up and down like some people do their radar
detectors but i don't want to have to reach up there to crank it up or 
something.
    Also, is there any way to add on an external infra-red remote sensor
and solder it into the unit?  I have very dark tinted windows and there is no
way that i can operate the unit externally and i was hoping to maybe install
an extra remote sensor near one of the rear windows and just aiming the
remote to it instead of the unit.

                  Anybody have any comments or suggestions about these ideas?

                  william c devine ii
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Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: teek@kingcong.uwaterloo.ca (Prateek Dwivedi)
Subject: Re: Reception problem with Pioneer removable face radio..
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:31:00 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.130153.20180@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> daw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dave Webb) writes:
>I am having problems with reception on my Pioneer KEH-M8200 and was wondering if anyone had any simular problems.  I'm not sure if it's a loose connection or ifthe antenna is goingup or if the radio is the culprit.  Any advice?
>				
>					Dave
>
My KEX-M800 (you know.. the one CSR voted one of the five best head units to
get in the past five years!) gives pretty bad reception... but I just thought
it was the little roof mounted antenna on my VW GTX.

Try a Radio Shack FM booster (< $20).  It helped my reception immensely.


-- 
Teek (Prateek Dwivedi)                  teek@kingcong.uwaterloo.ca
Research Assistant                      pdwivedi@systems.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
Flight Control Systems Group            (519)885-1211 x5314     Voice
University of Waterloo, Canada          (519)746-3077           Fax
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: patoine@kau100.enet.dec.com (Luc Patoine)
Subject: Kenwood amp. preamp(input) pinout
Keywords: Kenwood
Reply-To: patoine@kau100.enet.dec.com (Luc Patoine)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:14:34 GMT



  Would anybobody know the pinout for the preamp input of a Kenwwod KAC-801 
amp..This is round DIN plug with 8 pins in it. It's designed for the preamp 
output of the Kenwood unit. 
 I'm trying to sell the amp ..It would be connected to a Panasonic unit and
that preamp cable would be be chopped off ..
 I opened the amp looking for some kind of schematic glued on the cover, but no
 luck.

 Thanks in advance,

Luc P.
From: danclark@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Resident MacWizard 26/140 286-4405)
Subject: Tinted Windows
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA - Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 15:29:00 GMT

This might upset a lot of you, but tinted windows are not very smart.  
You might as well put a sign on the back window that says "Break into 
me".  Maybe the sign should say "Please Mr. Officer, pull me over".  
Tinted windows do not look cool.  On second thought, keep your tinted 
windows!  This way a theif will hit your car instead of mine.

As a final note, I have been hit twice.  They have stolen over $1000 
worth of equipment and have done another $1000 in damage to the car.
GEICO hates my guts now.  I can happily say that I have been theif 
free since I purchased my Excaliber alarm.
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
From: finnegan@invader.navo.navy.mil (Kenneth Finnegan)
Subject: Re: Reception problem with Pioneer removable face radio..
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-27899]: invader.navo.navy.mil
Reply-To: finnegan@navo.navy.mil
Organization: Grumman Data Systems	
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:58:12 GMT

In article <Bw7xno.4p6@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca>, teek@kingcong.uwaterloo.ca (Prateek Dwivedi) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct15.130153.20180@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> daw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dave Webb) writes:
|> >I am having problems with reception on my Pioneer KEH-M8200 and was wondering if anyone had any simular problems.  I'm not sure if it's a loose connection or ifthe antenna is goingup or if the radio is the culprit.  Any advice?			
|> >
|> My KEX-M800 (you know.. the one CSR voted one of the five best head units to
|> get in the past five years!) gives pretty bad reception... but I just thought
|> it was the little roof mounted antenna on my VW GTX.
|> 
|> Try a Radio Shack FM booster (< $20).  It helped my reception immensely.

For any GTX (or GTI/GLI in the US) owners who have bad reception, check
to make sure that the antenna booster which is built into the roof
mount antenna is functioning properly.  It is powered by the aux power
lead off of the radio.  If the lead comes looses, or the ground is poor,
the booster will not function, and the little 16" antenna becomes nothing
but a wind-whip on your roof.

Kenneth
finnegan@navo.navy.mil
From: wg3922@eehp12 (William P Glick)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Ovals vs Round vs Plate in 5x7 opening
Summary: Oval vs Round vs Plate in 5x7 opening
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:44:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvvJ1K.F36
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

I am about to install rear deck speakers to give me some rear-fill.
My problem is that the factory mounts are for 5x7's in the rear deck
and the deck is only about 5.75" deep.  

My local stereo shop had some nice sounding Infinity tri-axial 5x7's
but they were wanting $110 for the pair.

I did have a pair of 5.25's in the openings and this sounded fair, but
I would have to build some type of plate to fill up the 5x7 openings.
I have considered using 5.25" seperates and mounting them as a plate 
speaker in the opening with the tweeter next to the woofer.  Would this
be any better than using a decent coaxial 5.25"?

Another option I have considered is using a 4x6 plate speaker in the
openings, but I believe that I could get better response with a bigger
woofer.

There is room under the deck to use a larger speaker -- eg a 6.5" or 6x9 --
but, I am concerned about how the dispersion of this will effect the sound.
If anyone has any ideas or suggestions please e-mail me or post a reply.
What have others used for 5x7's ?  Any speaker suggestions are welcome.

Unless I am convinced otherwise, I will probably buy a pair of Sony XS-3022
5.25's and build a custom plate for these.  This a lot cheaper than buying
the 5x7's that I have seen.

Can anyone give me suggestions on building custom plates for speakers and
for building enclosures for rear deck speakers.

-THANX
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From: jsalmi@da_vinci.it.uswc.uswest.com (John Salmi)
Newsgroups: rec.audio.car
Subject: Re: Reception problem with Pioneer removable face radio..
Date: 16 Oct 92 14:19:17 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: US West Information Technologies, Devner

In article <1992Oct15.130153.20180@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> daw@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dave Webb) writes:
>I am having problems with reception on my Pioneer KEH-M8200 and was wondering if anyone had any simular problems.  I'm not sure if it's a loose connection or ifthe antenna is goingup or if the radio is the culprit.  Any advice?
>				
>					Dave
>

i use the keh-m77, and it has marvelous reception, with the exception of one
station locally.  even when i cruise up into the mountains, the reception is
outstanding.

my $0.02 worth,
-- 
John Salmi		<jsalmi@uswest.com>		(303) 595-2863

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