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From: lam@popeye.comm.mot.com (Dan Lam)
Subject: Re: Question about blocking
Organization: Land Mobile Products Sector, Motorola INC.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 12:38:48 GMT

In article <BzIG5o.6q2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
>
>An example: a serve is passed back over the net. If a jump setter
>is around to set the ball you may not reach across and block the ball even
>though it is headed over the net.
>
>						Greg Martin
>						g-martin1@uiuc.edu

Feeling so good reading this.  I always get pissed off when I try to
jump set and some tall blockers would penetrate and "block" the ball.
When I call a "reach over" violations they would give me sh*ts like "Oh
I don't think you could have jumped set it anyway".  (This is not
intended to offend you tall, 6'+ people out there). 

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From: ed.schlichtenmyer@dwarp.sccsi.com (Ed Schlichtenmyer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: What's a good ball to
Date: 21 Dec 92 11:14:00 GMT
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Reply-To: ed.schlichtenmyer@dwarp.sccsi.com (Ed Schlichtenmyer) 

WM>IMHO the only ball to buy is the Tachikara SV5W.  You can get it by mail for
  >about $37  (call 1-800-we-spike).  I realize buying by mail is somewhat
  >politically incorrect, but it is cheaper.  Ask for a ...

Agree on the ball choice, but I've never heard about mail order being
P.I.  What's the deal?
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From: mkrogers@unix.amherst.edu (Michael Rogers)
Subject: Re: Question about blocking
Organization: Amherst College
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Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:14:13 GMT

Dan Lam (lam@popeye.comm.mot.com) wrote:
: In article <BzIG5o.6q2@news.cso.uiuc.edu> g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin) writes:
: >
: >An example: a serve is passed back over the net. If a jump setter
: >is around to set the ball you may not reach across and block the ball even
: >though it is headed over the net.
: 
: Feeling so good reading this.  I always get pissed off when I try to
: jump set and some tall blockers would penetrate and "block" the ball.
: When I call a "reach over" violations they would give me sh*ts like "Oh
: I don't think you could have jumped set it anyway".  (This is not
: intended to offend you tall, 6'+ people out there). 

Of course, if part of the ball is in the plane above the net, then
the blockers may play the ball (Rule 9, Art. 7).  Of course, if a
tall person makes an athletic play on the ball, they cannot have
committed a fault (Rule 18, Art. 0 :-).

An interesting rule which may operate under the above conditions
is Rule 8, Comm. 7f:
	"If a player near the net sets the ball from above
	the height of the net in such a manner that the ball
	is blocked back into that player, such contact by that
	player is considered to be a block."
If the setter is a back row player, their unintentional block
would be a fault.  Life (= rules of volleyball) just isn't fair.

	-mike rogers
	mkr@cs.amherst.edu
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From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: What's a good ball to
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 15:17:10 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
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I believe it was in the FAQ for this listing where it mentioned that one 
should always patronize a local vb shop rather than mail order.  There were
a bunch of reasons, some serious and some funny.  I was more or less making
reference to this 'bully pulpit' in a light hearted way.  I kind of agree
with the sentiment, but by the same token, I am not gonna pay $55 for a 
Tach SV5W.  :-)

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From: lam@popeye.comm.mot.com (Dan Lam)
Subject: Re: Fred Vargas
Organization: Land Mobile Products Sector, Motorola INC.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 11:21:32 GMT

In article <72469529028701@spatial.eid.anl.gov> shugrue@spatial.eid.anl.gov (Leon Shugrue) writes:
>Please send me the phone number of Fred Vargas of Volleyball Chicago.
>I need this number TODAY, Friday the 18th. Thank You.
>

Sorry I did not get to read this on Fri.  But here is his number:
708-851-1625.

dan



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From: Jeff-Randall@uiuc.edu (Jeff Randall)
Subject: Re: NCAA Women's Volleyball Championship (SPOILERS!)
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Reply-To: Jeff-Randall@uiuc.edu (Jeff Randall)
Organization: The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:19:53 GMT

liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu) writes:


>From the Dec. 16 LA Times:

>  All-American Honors by Coaches, First Team:

>       Kirsten Gleis, Illinois, 6-2, Sr.

I thought Gleis was a Junior beacase Lorna Henderon Has been heralded all
year as being the only Illini Senior.... However, I have also heard that
the NCAA only granted Gleis one year of eligibility...  perhaps that's
where the confusion lies...

Is this merely a typo?  Is she considered 'Sr.' because she no longer has
NCAA eligibility?  Anyone know?
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From: cdt@sw.stratus.com (C. D. Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Receiving the service; overhead?????
Date: 29 Dec 92 18:57:59 GMT
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In article <1hbh6pINN16f@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cj531@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ali Momeni) writes:
> 
> I'm very confused about this thing.  I've always been told that the service
> may NOT be returned with an overhead, open handed hit (as if setting the ball).

Not all servers are power servers.  Occasionally one of your opponents will
serve a high blooper (don't forget, there are always folks learning to serve
underhanded!) and it's no more difficult to "set" these cleanly than to set
a good pass from your own side.
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From: daryl@cup.hp.com (Daryl Odnert)
Subject: NCVA Questions
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:46:05 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
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I have a couple of questions related to playing in the
Northern California Volleyball Association (NCVA) winter
sanctioned season.

On the list of "Concentration Dates" for 1993 tournament events, there
are dates listed that are marked with "League Numbers".  Does anyone
know what this means?

Also, I've heard a rumor that teams playing in NCVA sanctioned events
are required to wear matching shirts or uniforms of some sort.
Can anyone verify or dispute this rumor?

Thanks,
Daryl Odnert      daryl@cup.hp.com
Hewlett-Packard
Cupertino, California
From: yoon@meaddata.com (Yoonho Ha)
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Subject: USVBA
Date: 23 Dec 1992 14:27:14 GMT
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I have a friend who's getting a women's USVBA team together and she wanted
to know who she has to call to get registration forms and/or any other 
forms that might be required for her to register a team.

Any help would be appreciated.

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From: wmaley@alchemy.uhl.uiowa.edu (Walt Maley)
Subject: Re: USVBA REGISTRATION
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:38:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
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Actually, if someone could post this info, it would be helpful to me too.
Thanks

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From: mkrogers@unix.amherst.edu (Michael Rogers)
Subject: Re: Receiving the service; overhead?????
Organization: Amherst College
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Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 00:04:07 GMT

Ali Momeni (cj531@cleveland.Freenet.Edu) wrote:
: 
: I'm very confused about this thing.  I've always been told that the service
: may NOT be returned with an overhead, open handed hit (as if setting the ball).
: I recently got my USVBA 1993 Rulebook and in it (Commentary on Rule 8, #2),
: it says:
: 	"Receiving a served ball with an overhead pass using open hands in not necessarily a fault.  Such service receives must b 
: 	necessarily a fault.  Such service receives must be judged the same as 
: 	any open handed pass... If the serve is high and soft, the pass can be made legally the same as any sim 
: 	made legally the same as any similar ball crossing the net after service
: 	(pp. 41)"
: 
: WELL?????

The rule seems pretty clear.

It's rather difficult to do without a double hit or catching the ball.
I think some refs apply a higher standard to such plays.  Perhaps at
one time it was illegal, but it has been legal in the USVBA for at
least five years.  I've played in some low level leagues in which
the rules explicitly outlaw finger-tip passing of served balls.
It is a good thing to discourage developing players from such type
of play.
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From: mkrogers@unix.amherst.edu (Michael Rogers)
Subject: Re: USVBA REGISTRATION
Organization: Amherst College
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 23:54:42 GMT

A team and its members need to register with your
USVBA region.  Unfortunately I don't have the info
on all the regions.  I'm sure you can obtain it
from
	USVBA Administrative Office
	3595 East Fountain Blvd.
	Colorado Springs, CO	80910-1740
	(719)637-8300
	(719)597-6307 (fax)
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From: sam@esl.com (Samuel Hahn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball,ba.sports,su.sports
Subject: Re: Women's NCAA Tourn - Final Four Semifinal Results
Date: 22 Dec 92 01:33:12 GMT
Reply-To: Samuel Hahn <sam@esl.com>
Followup-To: rec.sport.volleyball

In article <75747@apple.apple.COM> yeff@Apple.COM (jeff soesbe) writes:
> 
> On Saturday, December 19 at 7 PM, it's #2 Stanford v. #1 UCLA for the
> championship!!  In the Bay Area, the game will be broadcast on 90.1 FM
> (KZSU) starting at 5:45 pm Saturday.
> 

What a great way to end the season.  Don't a lot of you remember last year,  
when Stanford was favored to win it all, after beating UCLA twice (?) in the  
regular season, only to have an off night and lose to UCLA in the regionals?   
I remember the disappointment, because SU clearly had an off night.  This  
year, it's so perfect, because the situation was exactly reversed.  How  
great!  Congratulations to the Cardinal women!!

-- Samuel Hahn

PS.  for next year:  Go Piper!
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From: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Subject: Re: NCAA Women's Volleyball Championship (SPOILERS!)
Originator: gamg6900@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: g-martin1@uiuc.edu (Gregory A. Martin)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:25:18 GMT

Jeff-Randall@uiuc.edu (Jeff Randall) writes:
>liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu) writes:
>>From the Dec. 16 LA Times:
>>  All-American Honors by Coaches, First Team:
>>       Kirsten Gleis, Illinois, 6-2, Sr.
>I thought Gleis was a Junior beacase Lorna Henderon Has been heralded all
>year as being the only Illini Senior.... However, I have also heard that
>the NCAA only granted Gleis one year of eligibility...  perhaps that's
>where the confusion lies...
>Is this merely a typo?  Is she considered 'Sr.' because she no longer has
>NCAA eligibility?  Anyone know?

This situation is totally up in the air right now. The University will
petition the NCAA for another year of eligibility, but the Dutch National
Team has competition during the beginning of the NCAA Season next fall.

Right now you can basically flip a coin and know as much as anyone.

						Greg Martin
						g-martin1@uiuc.edu
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From: liu@cerl.uiuc.edu (Albert Liu)
Subject: Re: NCAA Women's Volleyball Championship (SPOILERS!)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 09:53:53 GMT

From the Dec. 20 LA Times:

    Williams, who had .424 hitting percentage entering the match, led the
  Bruins with 21 kills in 51 attempts.  She also had six errors for a .294
  percentage.
    Elaine Youngs had 20 kills in 35 attempts and six errors, hitting .400.
    Bev Oden led Stanford with 21 kills.
    UCLA had won 43 consecutive matches since a loss at Stanford on Nov. 15,
  1991.
  ...
    Wendy Hromadka, a reserve freshman for Stanford, made the winning kill,
  which bounced off the hands of UCLA middle blocker Lisa Hudak before
  sailing into the stands.
  ...
    The Cardinal jumped to a 3-0 lead in the first game.  UCLA scored the
  next six points to take the lead, but Stanford came from behind to win the
  game on a kill down the line by Cary Wendell.
    Andy Banachowski, UCLA coach, substituted Annett Buckner and Irene Renteria
  early in the second game for Jenny Evans, an outside hitter, and Hudak, but
  it did not stop a 10-point run that helped Stanford win the game.
    UCLA took an 11-6 lead in game three, holding the Cardinal scoreless after
  Williams came from the back row to drive a kill down the middle.
    Stanford broke a 5-5 tie in game four, taking control with a 7-1 run,
  capped by a kill by Oden.

From the Dec. 16 LA Times:

  All-American Honors by Coaches, First Team:
  
  OH:  Natalie Williams, UCLA, 6-1, Sr.
       Elaine Youngs, UCLA, 6-0, Sr.
       Gudula Staub, Florida, 6-2, Sr.
       Kirsten Gleis, Illinois, 6-2, Sr.
  MB:  Marissa Hatchett, UCLA, 6-1, Sr.
       Danielle Scott, CS Long Beach, 6-2, Jr.
       Bev Oden, Stanford, 6-2, Sr.
       Katy Jameyson, Texas, 6-1, Jr.
       Leanna Kling, Penn St., 5-11, Sr.
       Angie Miller, LSU, 6-1, Sr.
       Stephanie Thater, Nebraska, 6-2, Sr.
  S :  Sabrina Hernandez, CS Long Beach, 5-7, Sr.
  
  Player of the Year:  Williams

Remember that the semis are going to be broadcast on Dec. 25 and Dec. 26
at 9pm PST on ESPN.  The final will be on Jan. 23 at 2pm EST on CBS.
--
Albert Liu
liu@cerl.uiuc.edu
From: mkrogers@unix.amherst.edu (Michael Rogers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Re: Question about blocking
Date: 27 Dec 92 16:51:26 GMT
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Eric Wang (wang@cs.uiuc.edu) wrote:
:     ...  If the setter gets overeager and shoots the set towards the
:     opposing court to hit the blocker(s)' hands, then the block will
:     probably be ruled legal, by 8.14.f(1): "[Blocking across the net is
:     legal if] ... in the first referee's judgment, [the setter]
:     intentionally directed the ball towards the opponents' playing area
:     ..."
: 
:     Corollary: suppose the setter sets a back-slide on a frantic
:     transition play, but doesn't pull the path of the ball fully
:     parallel to the net, hence it drifts towards the net, resulting in a
:     tight set for the hitter.  Before it crosses the net (and if
:     untouched, it _would_ cross), and just before the hitter hits it,
:     the blocker reaches over and blocks it down.

Eric Wang then asks whether the block is illegal by 8.14.f(1).
I think 8.14.f(3) clarifies the situation:
	"[Blocking is legal]...After the opponents have hit
	the ball in such a manner that the ball would, in the
	first referee's judgement, clearly cross the net if
	not touched by a player, provided no member of the
	attacking team is in a position to make a legal play
	on the ball...."
On a point raised in the post: it doesn't matter whether the
setter (mentally) intended to put the ball over the net.  The
question is whether the ball intends to cross the net :).
I don't think that the ref can reasonably maintain that
in the above situation that the setter attacked the ball.
The last clause I think clearly implies that the block described
above in which the blocker "steals" the ball from hitter
is illegal.  A common scenario is when the setter shoots a
a set into the middle hitter from the ten-foot line.  Very
often these sets would clearly cross the net, but the blocker
must wait until the middle hitter attacks the ball or the
ball penetrates the plane of the net.  A similar situation
occurs on overpasses in which the setter tries to get to
the ball before it passes over the net.
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From: comptec91046@camins.camosun.bc.ca
Subject: Re: Receiving the service; overhead?????
Organization: Camosun College
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 18:58:01 GMT

In article <1hbh6pINN16f@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, cj531@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ali Momeni) writes:
> 
> I'm very confused about this thing.  I've always been told that the service
> may NOT be returned with an overhead, open handed hit (as if setting the ball).
> I recently got my USVBA 1993 Rulebook and in it (Commentary on Rule 8, #2),
> it says:
> 	"Receiving a served ball with an overhead pass using open hands in not necessarily a fault.  Such service receives must b 
> 	necessarily a fault.  Such service receives must be judged the same as 
> 	any open handed pass... If the serve is high and soft, the pass can be made legally the same as any sim 
> 	made legally the same as any similar ball crossing the net after service
> 	(pp. 41)"
> 
> WELL?????


You can receive a serve using an overhea, open handed hit. The serve receive
must be clean though. Or else a doble hit will be called.  Some refs will
automatically call you for a double hit though.

Chris
From: cj531@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ali Momeni)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.volleyball
Subject: Receiving the service; overhead?????
Date: 24 Dec 1992 05:18:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


I'm very confused about this thing.  I've always been told that the service
may NOT be returned with an overhead, open handed hit (as if setting the ball).
I recently got my USVBA 1993 Rulebook and in it (Commentary on Rule 8, #2),
it says:
	"Receiving a served ball with an overhead pass using open hands in not necessarily a fault.  Such service receives must b 
	necessarily a fault.  Such service receives must be judged the same as 
	any open handed pass... If the serve is high and soft, the pass can be made legally the same as any sim 
	made legally the same as any similar ball crossing the net after service
	(pp. 41)"

WELL?????
From: P85014@BARILVM.BITNET (Anthony Waller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Israeli Results, Round 14
Date: 22 Dec 92 09:48:38 GMT
Organization: Bar-Ilan University Computing Center, Israel

Israeli League,  Round 14, December 19

                                                Att
Betar Jerusalem      1   Betar Tel-Aviv     0
Hapoel Tel-Aviv      2   Maccabi Netanya    1
Bnei Yehuda TA       1   Maccabi Haifa      2   8000
Hapoel Haifa         2   Tzafririm Holon    1
Maccabi Petah-Tikva  0   Hapoel Petah-Tikva 0   5000
Hapoel Be'er-Sheva   1   Maccabi Tel-Aviv   2


League Table

Betar Jerusalem      9  2  3 21-15  29
Maccabi Haifa        8  4  2 31-18  28
Maccabi Tel-Aviv     8  3  3 35-18  27
Bnei-Yehuda TA       7  2  5 27-24  23
Maccabi Petah-Tikva  5  5  4 26-20  20
Hapoel Tel-Aviv      6  2  6 23-25  20
Hapoel Be'er-Sheva   5  4  5 18-18  19
Tzafririm Holon      5  3  6 23-24  18
Hapoel Haifa         4  5  5 13-16  17
Maccabi Netanya      3  4  7 14-28  13
--------------------------------------
Betar Tel-Aviv       3  1 10 14-28  10
Hapoel Petah-Tikva   2  3  9 15-23   9


Leading Goalscorers

Meir Melika       (Mac TA)   9
Alon Mizrahi      (BY  TA)   8
Ivan Getzko       (Mac Ha)   8
Constantine Marko (Tz Ho)    8

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From: ci580@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael J. Schofield)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Goal of the Season.
Date: 21 Dec 1992 14:40:07 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ci580@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael J. Schofield)
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In a previous article, ljw00@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com () says:

>One for the great soccer minds of our time:
>
>Anyone remember a goal Justin Fashanu scored years ago that won the Match
>Of The Day Goal of the Season? He got the ball outside the box with his
>back to the goals, chipped it up over his shoulder, turned round the
>defender and whacked it on the volley into the far corner. Great goal.
>
>Now to settle a bet, can anyone tell me who Fashanu was playing for at
>the time, and who they were playing against?
>


He was playing for Norwich City, at home to Liverpool. I think Liverpool
won the game 4-2. Can someone confirm?


>This could be worth some money.
>Thanx, Liam.
>

-- 
That's all for now
Michael

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