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From: rob@apache.dtcc.edu (Rob Jarman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: strange litter box habit
Date: 22 Jan 1993 12:14:47 -0500
Organization: Delaware Technical & Community College
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: apache.dtcc.edu

I've been having a problem with our cat using the tub instead of the
litter box. I've been keeping it scooped out to try and make it suitable
for him to use. The other day, he used the litter box when it was full (
and I mean FULL), then I scooped it out and not 10 minutes after that he
used the tub. Can anyone tell me why he might do this?
-- 
Through out history, society's greatest fear has always been;
POOR PEOPLE WITH GUNS!

rob@apache.dtcc.edu
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:02:24 EST
From: Diane L. Herdt <DH6530A@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: early wake up calls

I call it the "5:00am wake-up call", which is okay on Mondays-Fridays,
but weekends are another matter.

The only solution that works in our house, is to get up, fed them,
and then go back to bed.

--Diane   :-)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: daj8m@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Deirdre A. Johnson)
Subject: Re: Sliding Closet Doors...
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:13:05 GMT

Hi, Gregory!

If you can't prop the door shut with a broomstick or something, I can't
think what you should do ...BUT... the people at the childproofing dept.
of your local hardware store might have some good ideas.

Good luck!

                  -Deirdre (daj8m@Virginia.edu)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: thiessen@emr1.emr.ca (Tracy Thiessen)
Subject: Re: Help me find a kitty.
Organization: Energy, Mines, and Resources, Ottawa
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:27:08 GMT

In article <1jmj2kINNqic@nigel.msen.com> dan@msen.com (Dan and Karen Sugalski) writes:
>Barry Fowler (barryf@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM) wrote:
>: > 3)  Discipline?
>: > 
>: Discipline?  Hah!  Actually, I've done lots of "cat reading" and cats
>: do not respond to negative reinforcement.  It only makes them fear their
>: owners.
> 
>Do you mean hitting and the like?  Cats do respond to negative reinforcement. 
>Physical punishment may make them afraid, but the same goes for almost any
>animal including (but not limited to) humans, dogs and horses.
>
>Karen
>

I agree. When more gentle tactics fail, and kitty has copped
an attitude, I find yelling (not hitting, I hate hitting) at
the top of my lungs is an excellent deterrent, especially if
it is reserved the more severe kitty crimes.

Tracy 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: malwen@granta.demon.co.uk (Sheila Thomas)
Subject: Re: ATTIC DANGERS 
Distribution: world
Organization: moderate-to-good
Reply-To: malwen@granta.demon.co.uk
X-Mailer: Simple NEWS 1.90 (ka9q DIS 1.19)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 20:17:47 +0000

In article <1993Jan25.194450.49553@evolving.com> judy@evolving.com writes:

>
 Bast loves to sneak up into
>our walk-up attic if we're not really careful.  She can't fall
>into the walls as in a newer house, but her favorite thing
>seems to be to get as filthy as possible in the old rock wool insulation.
>Does anyone know if this is dangerous?  

Mineral insulation materials in the form of fine fibres can be damaging 
to people and pussy cats if breathed in. The fibres at brittle and can break 
into dust-particle sized sharp spikes. People wear masks over their
nose and mouth when laying the stuff so I would recommend keeping cats
away from it.
I know it is hard. My Josephine would take any ungaurded moment to
rush up the step ladder into the loft and hide there amongst the
glass fibre insulation.


__
__________________________________________
Malwen

"Even overweight cats instinctively know the cardinal
rule: when fat, arrange yourself in slim poses."
John Weitz
________________________________________________________
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: darmstro@acs.ucalgary.ca (Debby Armstrong)
Subject: Re: Two Better Than One?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 18:59:32 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

(Nancy Milligan) writes:
>
>I also bought a clear round ball which you can put the hamster in and
>it'll roll the ball across the floor.  Taboo purrs like mad and follows
>him around, occassionally giving the ball a push with his paw.  Fortunately,
>he can't get to the little guy.

Nancy,

Every once and a while check the hamster's ball to make sure the
top still stays on tightly.  My two cats (Max and Buster) have
discovered the top gets loose after a while and can easily be
pried off (much to the dismay of my gerbil Marco!).  Luckly for
Marco, the first (and only) time it happened, I think Max and
Buster were so surprised that he was free, they didn't know
quite what to do with him so they just ended up following him
around.  Marco has always been pretty cheeky towards them when
he had the safety of the plastic ball between them, but after
this little incident he has become a changed gerbil ;-).
From: assana@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (assana)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: I'm ready to be adopted again! [by kitties, of course!]
Followup-To: assana@polkadot.eng.sun.com
Date: 21 Jan 1993 19:44:29 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: assana@polkadot.Eng.Sun.COM (assana)
NNTP-Posting-Host: polkadot
Originator: assana@polkadot

[my apologies to the non-locals...distribution ba doesn't seem to work]

Hi catsters.

After being free from kitties for about 10 months now, I'm
ready for being adopted again! Now, I know kittens are out of
season, and with kitty season being around the corner, I will probably 
have to wait for a few months, but thought someone might know 
of available kittens right now. 

I'm looking for 2 hopefully black'n white kittens, max 8 weeks 
old, or as young as possible. They can be any kind except the 
flat-face persian looking kinds. Can anyone help?
-- 
         ^-^
        /o o\
       ===^===   assana@polkadot.eng.sun.com
          -
From: lusol@Lehigh.EDU (Stephen O. Lidie)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Mac System 7 Kitty Litter trash Icons
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:12:07 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University, Bethlehem PA

As promised the Kitty litter icons to replace the trash can on Macs running
System 7 is available via anonymous FTP at FTP.Lehigh.EDU in the pub/Mac
directory.  Be sure to read the instructions completely BEFORE doing anything!

SOL
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rewald@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: ants in the catfood
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 15:32:06 GMT

In article <25JAN199314291861@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov>, piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Nancy Piltch) writes:
> I came home yesterday to the sight of ants swarming around the catfood
> dish (and assorted bits of food on the floor.)  Any ideas how to eliminate
> the ants without poisoning the cats too?
> 
> 
> Nancy Piltch            piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov
> NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland Ohio 44135
> 
 Try putting the bowl of catfood (bowl and all) into a larger bowl or pan
of water.  The bigger one has to be big enough to keep the ants from crossing
(they *usually* can't walk on water), yet small enough to let the cat reach
across to eat it.   Also, ants leave chemical "trails" that the other ants 
can follow, so be sure to clean the floor really well.  Otherwise, ants will
continue to come, can't eat the cat food, and could get into other stuff.

Hope this helps - Rosalie

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: urban@nsc.nsc.com (Gregory Urban)
Subject: Sliding Closet Doors...
Organization: National Semiconductor, Santa Clara
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:59:05 GMT

Well, I guess it had to happen eventually. Our cat, Shadow, has
just figured out how to open our sliding closet doors. I suppose
she wedges her head between the wall and the door until it slides
open. She only does this when we're away at work. Unfortunately...

She likes Mommy's expensive trouser socks. We now come home every day
to an apartment littered with socks. (We're talking 10-15 pair!)
It must take her at least an hour to get all of them out and "decorate"
the room.

Yesterday she ruined a pair (infamous little-teeth holes).
We can't punish her after the fact, so our only option is to
figure out how to keep her out. I can't put something in the
door track to stop it's motion, either.

Any suggestions from all you intelligent people who have outsmarted your
intelligent cats?

-- 
===============================================================================
Gregory Urban      Mktg/Apps Engineer             urban@nsc.nsc.com
                   National Semiconductor
                   Santa Clara, CA                "Hi-keeba"
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: oexmann@convex.com (Carla Oexmann)
Subject: Re: ants in the catfood
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:16:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1993Jan26.103206.1@stsci.edu> rewald@stsci.edu writes:
>In article <25JAN199314291861@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov>, piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Nancy Piltch) writes:
>> I came home yesterday to the sight of ants swarming around the catfood
>> dish (and assorted bits of food on the floor.)  Any ideas how to eliminate
>> the ants without poisoning the cats too?
>> 
> Try putting the bowl of catfood (bowl and all) into a larger bowl or pan
>of water.  The bigger one has to be big enough to keep the ants from crossing
>(they *usually* can't walk on water), yet small enough to let the cat reach
>across to eat it.  

Add a drop or two of dish detergent to the water bowl.  It totally destroys
the surface tension and the ants sink and drown.  We use a pair of nested
glass pie plates : the cat food pie plate has enough of a lip on it that
Strange can't play dunkies with her food or splash the water out.  

It doesn't stop her : she just takes it over to the water dish, but at
least the water surface isn't a solid mass of floating kitty crunchies
at the end of the day.

Ritual disclaimer : My opinion and mine alone !  Convex, as best I can tell,
doesn't have opinions, being a corporate entity...
Carla Oexmann        {allegra, sun, harvard, uiucdcs, ctvax}!convex!oexmann
Convex Computer Corp.  3000 Waterview Parkway P.O. Box 833851 Richardson, TX
From: mcg2@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Marc Gabriel)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: New listserv group - LymeNet
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:56:09 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: kammmk@cray.com (Kammeyer Michael K)
Subject: Re: early wake up calls
Organization: Cray Research, Inc, Mendota Heights, MN
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:51:23 CST

 My cat Ashes used to wake me at 5am every morning.  He didn't need food or want outside, he just wanted my attention.  I had to get mad at him to get him stop
 waking me up so often.
                                               




Cathy Nix
Hammond, WI


Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dauphin@adobe.com (Kimberly Dauphin)
Subject: Re: ants in the catfood
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:00:26 GMT

prkenne@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP) writes:
>...  I'd suggest the enclosed ant traps but know from 
> experience that the average kitty thinks they're hockey pucks.

So true.  Poor Binckley had to make an emergency vet visit
one evening after chewing through one of the "hockey pucks."
He was batting it around and immediately punctured it with one
of his fangs, hitting the pool of gooey ant bait in the middle.

He was lucky.  The vet said it would take a lot more than just
a "fang dip" for it be serious.

Now we make them non-movable with duct tape on the underside.  
Binckley shows no interest in them, now that they can't move.

-- 
__________________________________________________________
Kimberly Dauphin	  	Adobe Systems Incorporated
dauphin@mv.us.adobe.com	  	Mountain View, CA
*********All these opinions are mine, not Adobe's.********
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Nancy Piltch)
Subject: ants in the catfood
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
Date: 25 Jan 1993 14:29 EST  

I came home yesterday to the sight of ants swarming around the catfood
dish (and assorted bits of food on the floor.)  Any ideas how to eliminate
the ants without poisoning the cats too?


Nancy Piltch            piltch@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov
NASA Lewis Research Center, Cleveland Ohio 44135

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: bette@wc.novell.com (Elizabeth Brennan)
Subject: Why breed cats? (was: choose him or your cats?)
Reply-To: bette@wc.novell.com
Organization: Novell, Inc.
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:02:44 GMT

In <1k6ume$d5q@agate.berkeley.edu> spp@zabriskie.berkeley.edu (Steve Pope) writes:

>And I despise spindly, overbred show-dogs as well as the types
>that breed them.

This brings up something that's been bothering me for a while -- what
is it with cat breeders and these horrible flat faced persians? It breaks
my heart to see pictures of these animals. Are they doing similar things
to other breeds?  I'm not talking about breeding for color or marking or
coat length, but rather serious tampering with the basic architectural
design of the cat.  And besides structural issues, are these same folks
also messing with the very essence of the cat -- its personality?

I think from my questions, my feelings on this are pretty obvious. But
I really am interested in what's happening in Cat Fancy circles regarding
these issues.

Bette
email: bette@novell.com

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: rkn3u@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Keith Norwood)
Subject: Re: Cat on Counters, HELP
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:51:06 GMT

In article <1k1rv6INN816@umbc8.umbc.edu> ac999257@umbc.edu (ac999257) writes:
>
>If you don't want your cats on your countertops, that is your *CHOICE*,
>But saying that it is
>an owner's responsibility to keep their cats of the countertops is
>wrong. 

I never said this. Please reread my statement.  I said " We don't have 
to make them conform but it works out that way". 

I agree that this subject is getting out of hand.  My original comment 
was to the person who said "Cats are living creatures, countertops aren't" 
to justify their behavior.
I responded that if you want your cats on the countertop, just say so and 
leave it at that.  I don't really care what YOUR cats do in YOUR house. 
Why even bring up some bogus "living creature" theory.

This same person also said "How would you like being told don't do this 
and don't do that".  I replied that most cat owners make their cats
conform to their way of life in some way.(training,spaying/neutering,
declawing, etc.)  

In fact, if anyone has a cat who doesn't conform in some way I'd like
to hear from them.

Later,
Keith
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Subject: Re: Kittens and catus and all that..
Reply-To: jpk@Ingres.COM (Jon Krueger)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 22 Jan 93 01:42:05 GMT

Rob Dorfman writes:
> kittens...keep me awake at night by jumping on my head... run through
> the vertical blinds...they turn on the radio on my alarm clock...pull
> my cactus out of its pot and took a bite out of it...how to solve
> this problem?

Wait six months.  That's the general answer.  Kitten behavior fades as
they turn into cats.  There are better answers for specific behaviors,
e.g. early morning wake-ups.  See the FAQ.

-- Jon

--
Jon Krueger  jpk@ingres.com  
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ronnie@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Ronnie Findley)
Subject: tuna incident
Organization: Lockheed Santa Cruz, CA.
Distribution: NA
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:54:11 GMT

In the past 20 years, I've had 3 vets.  Without exception, each warned me to 
*not* give "human" tuna to a cat - never ever!!  They said it was far too 
rich, although the oil or water from the can the tuna is packed in would be 
okay.  It sounds as if "human" tuna has affected Gracie psychologically, 
although you don't say whether this was a one time tuna dose or not.  Kinda 
hard to believe that one dose of "human" tuna would affect her, but then who 
knows?  Look at the various reactions people have to foods, prescription 
medications, etc.  On the other hand, maybe the tuna has nothing whatsoever 
to do with her recent idiosyncracies.  Might not be a bad idea to check with 
your vet - it may turn out she needs a feline psychiatrist : ).  





Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Cats need New Home
Keywords: adoption allergy help
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 17:01:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.202004.20732@llyene.jpl.nasa.gov> julie@eddie.jpl.nasa.gov (Julie Kangas) writes:
>In article <1993Jan27.194559.17176@hubcap.clemson.edu> kudra@hubcap.clemson.edu (sallie j kudra) writes:
>>
>>  When my mother died, I had to go live with my 
>>father who hated cats.  I had to give up not only my cat but my dog as well.
>>Would your advice have been "Get a new father"?  

>We are giving him what *we* consider constructive advice.  Just because
>it doesn't match *your* opinions doesn't mean it's any less "real"
>or useful and that you can flame away at us without a thought.


I agree with Julie.  One can't get a new father, but one can
definitely avoid relationships with a cold-hearted animal hater.  How
this woman treats animals is a pretty good indication of how she would
treat children or any other humans who have the misfortune to enter
her life ...

--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
From: 00cmmiller@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help me name my cat
Date: 25 Jan 93 01:59:36 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

bob

felix

chico-san

mackenzie

sidney

sam

i can't think of anyt


candace miller
department of psychology, ball state university

*my opinions are MY opinions*
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cicarell@spk.hp.com (Collen Cicarell)
Subject: re: pills to cats
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:16:13 GMT

I guess I'm lucky, usually the pink stuff goes down so fast they hardly 
notice, then lick their chops.  Pills are another matter, I simply can't
get one cat to take them, the other does ok.

Once I got some BLUE antibiotic, and I mean REALLY blue, I dont remember
what it was.   I was worried about getting it down (the cat, not me) so
I held her really tight, shoved the syringe way back in her throat and
squirted.  She swallowed and I breathed a sigh of relief, noticing that
I had spilled some on the counter.  Turns out I didn't need to worry about
Spot swallowing the medicine, she licked the rest up and was looking for
more.  Silly kitty.

Colleen and Spot and Steve, a.k.a. Spotzilla and Stevenstein
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: Lesa von Munkwitz-Smith <lesa@boombox.micro.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Help me name my cat
Organization: University of Minnesota
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1a2
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 23:12:54 GMT

How about Quark?

Lesa
lesa@boombox.micro.umn.edu
From: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Subject: Re: Sliding Closet Doors...
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Reply-To: tittle@ics.uci.edu (Cindy Tittle Moore)
Organization: ICS Dept., UC Irvine
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:32:45 GMT

One trick I know of is to drill a hole through the overlapping part of
the two doors and stick a peg through it to keep the doors shut.
Depends on whether or not you want a hole there, but the silk
stockings sound expensive!

--Cindy
--
   Cindy Tittle Moore & Noisy Underfoot (bird watcher extraordinaire)

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From: jerryg@jaiser.rain.com (Jerry Gaiser)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: flat cat
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 09:31:36 PST
Organization: Jerry's Attic, Gaston OR

farland@outland.b24a.ingr.com (Theresa McFarland) writes:

> >Yep, my sister has a flat cat too, and even without sound effects added in,
> >it certainly catches the attention of real cats.  It looks so real itself,
> 
> That's funny - Our cat likes to lie on the floor with his back legs 
> spread to either side.  We call that "flat cat."  As in "Look,
> Hon, FLAT CAT !  FLAT CAT !  "
> 

Shoot... I thought I was the only person with a FLAT CAT. Jake tends to do
it when the weather gets hot and he wants to cool down. You'll find him spread
out on the linoleum in the kitchen, with his back legs to the side and back,
his front legs straight out front and as close to the ground as he can 
possible get.


--
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