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From: vrs0@bunny.gte.com (V. Stern)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Ever heard of "Baldwin's" in Woburn?
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:21:58 GMT
Organization: GTEL

In article <1992Aug11.221609.1@ilp.mit.edu> jensen@ilp.mit.edu writes:
> Has anyone ever heard-of/tried a place called "Baldwin's"?  It's in a 
> large grey building that looks like it might be a house, right off the 
> Rt 38 - Rt128 intersection rotary.  I've seen it a few times on my way 
to 
> church and wondered what it might be like.
> 
>                                                           ---SCJ
> 
I used to work right near there and sometimes had lunch there, but it's 
been a number of years.  As I remember, it has an interesting history to 
it.  On the inside the decor could be compared to something like The 
Wayside Inn or some of the places you'd find down in Williamsburg or 
places like that (I'm searching for the right words for a description, but 
they're not coming to me).  It's divided up into a number of rooms, all on 
the small side.  The food used to be OK, but nothing to rave about.  It 
was about the only "nice" place to go to lunch when I worked in Woburn 
without having to go too far (I worked almost across the street).  I would 
say that it's worth a go see.

Vanessa R. Stern
vrs0@bunny.gte.com
From: djb@bambam (David J. Braunegg)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: on beer...
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:03:42 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: The MITRE Corporation

In article <1992Aug20.164624.16492@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com> heiser@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser) writes:
>In article <93942@bu.edu> merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt) writes:
>>	1) the beer was too cold.
>
>How can beer be "too cold"?  (unless it's Guinness Stout, in which case
>it is suposed to be room temperature)


Most American beer (at least the mass-produced stuff) cannot be served
too cold.  Good beer can be served too cold, because when it is too
cold, you can't fully taste the beer.
 
Dave
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Boston-area brewpubs (was: where is 33 dunster street?)
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:15:39 GMT
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Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: krakauer@asdg.enet.dec.com's message of 17 Aug 92 14:10:09 GMT

>The rumor I've heard is that 33 Dunster is either being replaced
>by or being renovated into a brewery.

Another Cambridge brew-pub would be nice, and 33 Dunster was always
something of a waste of space imho.

Speaking of brew-pubs, I recently tried the newest one in town, Boston
Beer Works (near Fenway Park). I was not impressed either with their
German-style beer or with their "flagship" Red Ale; and the food was
mediocre at best. I'd rate this place third after Cambridge Brewing
Company (1st) and Commonwealth Brewery (2nd). Cambridge's Pale Ale is
still the best brew in town, though like most brew-pub brew, it's
somewhat inconsistent.
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: voydock@obscure.sni-usa.com (Vic Voydock)
Subject: Re: Status of Mary Chung's
Reply-To: voydock@obscure.sni-usa.com (Vic Voydock)
Organization: Siemens-Nixdorf Information Systems, Inc. Cambridge, MA
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:49:50 GMT

In article <7089@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>, blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
 writes:

> Personally, I'm getting tired of the semi-monthly Mary
> Chung discussion. Please don't start again about which
> is better - Mary's General Haig Chicken, or some else's
> Dog Drop Soup.
> 
> After about a year and half of this, I wish Mary would
> move to Mobile Alambama and open a chinese cajun place.
> 
> Yes.... I've eaten at her old restaurant, and I found
> nothing to deserve the "legendary" status that some people
> seem to want to crown her with.

You might try to be a little more polite.  I just started reading this news
group a couple days ago, and was unaware that there had been previous
discussion about Mary Chung's.  Also, while its fine to express your
opinion, you'd do well not to denigrate those of others.

In any case, I and a large number of other people think that Mary's Dim Sum
lunches on Sat. and Sun were outstanding.

Newsgroups: ne.food
From: heiser@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser)
Subject: Re: on beer...
Organization: Equipment Division, Raytheon Company
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 16:46:24 GMT

In article <93942@bu.edu> merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt) writes:
>	1) the beer was too cold.

How can beer be "too cold"?  (unless it's Guinness Stout, in which case
it is suposed to be room temperature)


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From: tlin@metasoft.UUCP (Tse-Hsin Lin)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Status of Mary Chung's
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:50:04 GMT
Organization: Meta Software Corporation, Cambridge MA

blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:

>Personally, I'm getting tired of the semi-monthly Mary
>Chung discussion. Please don't start again about which
>is better - Mary's General Haig Chicken, or some else's
>Dog Drop Soup.

>After about a year and half of this, I wish Mary would
>move to Mobile Alambama and open a chinese cajun place.

>Yes.... I've eaten at her old restaurant, and I found
>nothing to deserve the "legendary" status that some people
>seem to want to crown her with.


I agree with you completely. When I first came to school here
in Boston, I went there two or three time. I found there
is nothing special about this restaurant. 

Some of my Chniese friends recommended Joycy Chen or Chun-Suo
( the on on Mass. Ave near Poter Square).

I found the result is: Over price, Over rated.

The only place I found you can get good Chinese food is in
New York China Town. 

To sum up: I rather cook for myself or find Thai food to 
substitute my craving.

-tlin@metasoft.com
-- 
Tse-Hsin Lin				Internet  : tlin@metasoft.com
meta Software Corp.			    or    : tlin@bu-it.bu.edu
Cambridge, MA 02140 USA			Tel       : 617-576-6920
From: sammy@smds.com (Samuel Murphy)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: where is 33 dunster street?
Date: 15 Aug 92 05:08:22 GMT
Reply-To: sammy@ishmael.UUCP (Samuel Murphy)
Organization: Software Maintenance & Development Systems, Inc.

In article <18-JNEWS-2.1@wonky.UUCP> ornoth@wonky.UUCP (David A. Liscomb) writes:
>Went out behind the Garage (tm) with a friend.
>Was thoroughly stunned.
>Funny message about Mr. Harvard, if I recall correctly.
>Je suis sans clue.
>
>Can someone pleeeese issue me a clue?

It may be defunct. I saw some white paper on the window the 
other day with what sounded like a new restarant come-on.

In any case, it is/was(?) directly below the Souper salad.

-Sam
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: The  Bertucci's from hell
Keywords: pizza
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Distribution: ne
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 04:24:52 GMT

Thursday two colleagues and I went to Chez Siam on route 20 in Marlboro.
(Highly reccommended) They had two 20+ person parties and a long wait
for the 3 available tables. Since we could not wait, we continued east
on rt 20 until we arrived at Bertucci's, BIG MISTAKE!!  The room was 
foul with unventilated smoke, the server was nice but braindead and the
service suffered, the pizza was no more than 3 mm thick and the music
was an unbelievable mutation blending the worst elements of hard rock and
elevator music....  something that is produced using two cats and some
bungi cords. The _____ (can't use the word restaurant!) is obviously
not supervised by the head office and is an order of magnitude below
the normal Bertucci's standard.

Charlie
-- 
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Newsgroups: ne.food
From: campbell@redsox.bsw.com (Larry Campbell)
Subject: Re: on beer...
Organization: The Boston Software Works, Inc.
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:34:20 GMT


In article <1992Aug20.164624.16492@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com>, heiser@ferrari.nmc.ed.ray.com (Bill Heiser) writes:
> In article <93942@bu.edu> merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt) writes:
> >	1) the beer was too cold.
> 
> How can beer be "too cold"?  (unless it's Guinness Stout, in which case
> it is suposed to be room temperature)

English-style ales, porters, and stouts are supposed to be served
at cellar temperature (50 degrees).  No beer that I know of is supposed
to be served at room temperature (unless you like to keep your room
at 50 degrees!).

Even German lagers and pilsners should only be chilled to around 40 degrees.
The American practice of serving beer at 32.0001 degrees means you can't
taste it (which for most American beers is a blessing, I suppose.)
-- 
Larry Campbell             The Boston Software Works, Inc., 120 Fulton Street
campbell@redsox.bsw.com    Boston, Massachusetts 02109 (USA)
From: maw2@gte.com (Michael Weintraub)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: picante sum-up
Date: 12 Aug 92 20:26:45 GMT
Reply-To: maw2@bunny.GTE.COM (Michael Weintraub)
Distribution: ne
Organization: GTE Laboratories, Waltham, MA




I have received several notes from people who have eaten at Picante in
Davis Square (Somerville) and thought I would summarize them for
everyone's benefit.  The opinions were split good and bad - natural
for something as subjective as this.

Several people commented that their burritos are good, very filling,
and reasonably priced.  One person said they have a salsa bar which at
least sounds fun.  Another plus is no one said they had cochroaches in
their food...

On the down side, several people said it was a bit upscale (in a
negative way) which I take to mean either pricey but not necessarily,
snotty, or a place to be seen (or a bit of each).  Two people
complained about parking.

Not much of a review of reviews, but what do you want for nothing?

To fuel the Iguana Cafe vs Sol Azteca debate (having eaten at only the
Iguana), my impression was the drinks are good (they have a lot of
margaritas), the atmosphere is fun (even that kitschy iguana isn't so
bad after a few margaritas :-), the servers are very nice, and after a
few drinks, the food is even ok.  

To this discussion, I really don't know what kinds of standards people
really have or use, especially toward Mexican food.  I have been to
many of the restaurants people have named and found myself wondering
if we ate at the same place.  Many enjoyable meals - even though maybe
not authentic in some opinions, were very good - and the so-called
authentic stunk in MY opinion.  I am not trying to attack anyone's
opinion (even though I am biased toward my own :-), but rather trying
to find out what other people consider to be the things to look for.

I have been to parts of the SW (ok, Texas really), and to be honest,
much of the Mexican food wasn't so much better or even as good as what
I have found here (or in Ohio which is where I am from).  Probably the
best Mex. food I've had was in either Salt Lake City or east LA (and
there I really didn't want to know what I was eating :-).  I don't
mean to be offensive to anyone, but how does one make all of these
comparisons?  How much did the ambiance or service affect your meal?
What do you think is actually good SW/TexMex/Mex food?  Don't tell me
Papa Jose's in Dirtville, TX - but rather what did they do that was so
special?  My impression of Mexican is it is much like Chinese, every
restaurant serves mostly the same items, but what an item is varies
based on local foodstuffs.

-- 
Michael Weintraub		weintrb@gte.com
GTE Laboratories
40 Sylvan Road			phone: (617) 466 - 2210
Waltham, MA  02254		fax:   (617) 290 - 0628
From: merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: on beer...
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:25:04 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Boston University Physics Department



 	Last night I went to The Cambridge Brew. Co. 
	I hadn't been in awhile I wasn't impressed
	in the past but I figured I'd give it another 
	shot.
	
	A few things:

	1) the beer was too cold.
	2) The amber and the porter weren't bad
	   but I still prefer the the Commonwealth's
	   bitter.(or BBW oatmeal for that matter)
	3) The atmosphere was relaxed and I was with
	   my roomate who is a regular. The best
	   thing about the place was the beertender
	   John Adams. His theory that all bad things
	   from the slumpiming RedSux to the fall of
	   the Roman Empire can be blamed on sportscaster
	   Bob Lobel seemed plausable after a few
	   pints.

	Sorry but in my book it's 1)Commonwealth 2)BBW 3)Cambridge Brew Co.


	Bitter fans:
	Try the english brew E.S.B. that's available at Cornwalls
	and Casablanca on tap. Not as bitter as Bass a real creamy
	finish.
-- 
Sean J. Merritt		         |      Nietzsche che dice?
Dept of Physics Boston University| 	       Boh!	
merritt@budoe.bu.edu		 |
From: kaz@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Karen Fegley)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Question about an Indian Restaurant
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:19:59 GMT
Distribution: ne

In article <26682@life.ai.mit.edu> kbs@espresso.ai.mit.edu (Karen B. Sarachik)  
writes:
> 
> Question about an ex-Indian restaurant:
> 
> I have eaten at many of the Indian restaurants around Cambridge and
> Boston, and finally settled on a favorite --- called "India Royal",
> located on Comm Ave. right near the corner of Harvard Street (across
> Harvard street from Marty's Liquors). Two years ago it had just
> opened, and it seemed to me better by far than Oh Calcutta, Tandoor
> House, Shalimar, Gandhi, or the much overrated restaurant at Porter
> Square (imho).
>
>     [other stuff]
> 
> -Karen

Karen,

I can't help you about the restaurant you mentioned; however, I would
like to recommend a restaurant right in the same area that you might
enjoy.  It is called India Satori and is on Harvard Ave. on the right
as you go from Marty's toward Cambridge St.  (Or is it Harvard St. at
that end?  I can never remember which end is Harvard Ave. and which
end is Harvard St.)  Anyway, the food is good, the prices are definitely
right, and the people are very nice.  (I think this is a small family
business, by the way).

-- Another Karen

P.S. Among other desserts, they have two kinds of kulfi! -- pistachio
     and mango.
From: kaz@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Karen Fegley)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: on beer...
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:38:21 GMT
Distribution: ne

In article <93942@bu.edu> merritt@macro.bu.edu (Sean Merritt) writes:
> 
>  [stuff]
>
> 	3) The atmosphere was relaxed and I was with
> 	   my roomate who is a regular. The best
> 	   thing about the place was the beertender
> 	   John Adams. His theory that all bad things
> 	   from the slumpiming RedSux to the fall of
> 	   the Roman Empire can be blamed on sportscaster
> 	   Bob Lobel seemed plausable after a few
> 	   pints.

This theory seems plausible even WITHOUT a few pints...

Karen
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: mitchell@fhr.ma30.bull.com (Ernest Mitchell)
Subject: The Chinatown Eatery
Organization: Bull HN Information Systems Inc.
Distribution: ne
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 14:41:01 GMT

Can someone tell me if the 'Chinatown Eatery' is still open
in Chinatown, and if so, what the address is?

I rember reading about it some time ago on Net News.  As I
recall, it was in Chinatown on the 2nd floor, but the address
escapes me.  The food was reportedly plentiful and cheap.

Thanks...
Ernie
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: hersh@expo.lcs.mit.edu (Jay Hersh)
Subject: Re: where is 33 dunster street?
Organization: X Consortium, MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 18:38:27 GMT

krakauer@asdg.enet.dec.com (David Krakauer) writes:


>In article <1992Aug15.050822.3762@smds.com>, sammy@smds.com (Samuel Murphy) writes:
>|>In article <18-JNEWS-2.1@wonky.UUCP> ornoth@wonky.UUCP (David A. Liscomb) writes:
>|>>Went out behind the Garage (tm) with a friend.
>|>>Was thoroughly stunned.
>|>>Funny message about Mr. Harvard, if I recall correctly.
>|>>Je suis sans clue.
>|>>
>|>>Can someone pleeeese issue me a clue?
>|>
>|>It may be defunct. I saw some white paper on the window the 
>|>other day with what sounded like a new restarant come-on.
>|>
>|>In any case, it is/was(?) directly below the Souper salad.
>|>
>|>-Sam

>The rumor I've heard is that 33 Dunster is either being replaced
>by or being renovated into a brewery.

>The white sign in the window said something to the effect of
>revealing John Harvard for what he really was.  My guess is that
>John Harvard, like Samual Adams, was a brewer.


>				---krak



This rumor is indeed true. I spoke with Marc Kadish (of Sunset and Beer Works 
fame) and he said he was in there recently and they are indeed adding
a brewing line, and unless they have licensing problems they expect
to open by the end of this month. 

So happy to say Boston will be welcoming it's 4th brewpub very soon 
now. We're rapidly catching up with Vermont and Oregon on a per capita
brewery basis !!!


	JaH

--
Hopfen und Malz, Gott erhalts
There is nothing open about OpenGL
From: mad@spirit.clearpoint.com (Michael Davis)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Boston-area brewpubs (was: where is 33 dunster street?)
Date: 17 Aug 92 20:38:08 GMT
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	<RSHAPIRO.92Aug17121539@kariba.bbn.com>
Organization: /home/mad/.organization



rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro) offers an opinion:

Richard> Another Cambridge brew-pub would be nice, and 33 Dunster was
Richard> always something of a waste of space imho.

I last ate there 2-3 months ago.  The food was not that good, and I
seem to remember saying to my wife something like, "The atmosphere
here would make a really net pub."  What with all those bare wood
floors and high tables.

Richard> Speaking of brew-pubs, I recently tried the newest one in
Richard> town, Boston Beer Works (near Fenway Park). I was not
Richard> impressed either with their German-style beer or with their
Richard> "flagship" Red Ale; and the food was mediocre at best. I'd
Richard> rate this place third after Cambridge Brewing Company (1st)
Richard> and Commonwealth Brewery (2nd). Cambridge's Pale Ale is still
Richard> the best brew in town, though like most brew-pub brew, it's
Richard> somewhat inconsistent.

I would make the call a little differently.  In the brew department,
Cambridge does what it does better, but I like the variety at
Commonwealth.  Also, if you factor in food, Cambridge, imo, is a
loser, unless things have changed significantly in the last year.
When I worked in Kendall Square, we went there on occasion, and both
the entrees and appetizers were always dry and uninspired.  But we
kept going back for the beer :^).  Commonwealth, on the other hand,
never failed to satisfy, even in a pre-Celtics game rush.

Anyway, I'll check out Boston Beer Works.

-mad

Michael Davis			mad@spirit.clearpoint.com

De gustibus non disputandum.
Newsgroups: ne.food
From: anderson@world.std.com (Dave Anderson)
Subject: The "Award Winning" Iguana Cantina
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: ne
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:41:18 GMT


  Considering the Iguana is only being used as a subject header for
  every other Mexican restaurant nowadays, here's some real news about it.

  From Boston Magazine's current Best/Worst awards:

               Best Fajitas - The Iquana Cantina

===============================================================================
  Dave Anderson                                508-392-2441
  Concurrent Computer Corporation              dla@westford.ccur.com
  One Technology Way                           anderson@world.std.com
  Westford, MA 01886
===============================================================================
From: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: Ever heard of "Baldwin's" in Woburn?
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:16:59 GMT
Reply-To: blamb@rodan.hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Organization: Horizon Research

In article <1992Aug11.221609.1@ilp.mit.edu>,
jensen@ilp.mit.edu writes:
=> 
=>      Has anyone ever heard-of/tried a place called "Baldwin's"?  It's in a 
=> large grey building that looks like it might be a house, right off the 
=> Rt 38 - Rt128 intersection rotary.  I've seen it a few times on my way to 
=> church and wondered what it might be like.

I've been there once for a business dinner. It's not bad. Nice atmosphere
if you like the funky old "inn" style places. I can't remember the food
so well, so that means that it was not so extraordinary in either direction.
I do remember the service: the people were friendly and competent, but
seemed too busy (there was a large party in another room), and didn't
appear in our smaller room often enough and we waited quite a while to
get our bill settled after dinner. It's worth a try though, and isn't
overly expensive.

- Bill Lambert
From: rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: on beer...
Date: 21 Aug 92 10:44:54
Organization: BBN, Cambridge MA
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In-reply-to: campbell@redsox.bsw.com's message of Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:34:20 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.123420.10307@redsox.bsw.com> campbell@redsox.bsw.com (Larry Campbell) writes:

   English-style ales, porters, and stouts are supposed to be served
   at cellar temperature (50 degrees).


Exactly. In a semi-defense of Cambridge Brewery, they almost always
follow this practice. But occasionally, for reasons I don't
understand, they will sometimes serve beer colder than this. Not
*cold*, the way you'd want a Bud to be if you had to drink a Bud. But
cooler than it should be. There doesn't seem to be any pattern to when
this will happen. I used to work near CBC, so I've had beers there
*many* times; it's only been served too cold 2 or 3 times out of
probably 75 times I've been there.  Even cool, the Pale Ale is the
best brew in town...



Newsgroups: ne.food
From: campbell@redsox.bsw.com (Larry Campbell)
Subject: Re: Boston-area brewpubs (was: where is 33 dunster street?)
Organization: The Boston Software Works, Inc.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 03:26:08 GMT


I must differ with previous posters on this.  I find the beer
at the Boston Beer Works to be rather mediocre (I've tried all
but the Kenmore Kolsch) in three visits.  I only went to the
Cambridge Brewery once, about two or three years ago, and it
was _horrible_.  Mediocre beer, horrible food, surly and error-prone
service, bletch moan rant it was a DISASTER.  I have not been back
since.  I hope it has improved.

However, I must speak up for the Commonwealth Brewery.  Yes, the
food is pretty poor.  And I'll even agree that most of their beers
are pretty lackluster.  But (de gustibus non disputandum) I will
stand up and be counted in ALL CAPS that their Boston's Best Burton's
Bitter is THE BEST BEER I'VE HAD ON THIS SIDE OF THE ATLANTIC.
It's fucking wonderful.

So there.

(P.S. - if ya wanna buzz, drink Haffenreffer.)
-- 
Larry Campbell             The Boston Software Works, Inc., 120 Fulton Street
campbell@redsox.bsw.com    Boston, Massachusetts 02109 (USA)
From: dethomas@athena.mit.edu (Drea E Thomas)
Newsgroups: ne.food
Subject: Re: The Chinatown Eatery
Date: 22 Aug 92 23:26:30 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology


 I refer to this place as the "roach court". Food is usually
pretty good.. but lets just say it lacks atmosphere. It is 
pretty dirty and smoky... and I wouldn't recommend visiting
the "rest room".

 I don't know the street address, but it is on the northeast (?)
corner of the intersection that shawmut bank is on. It is
across the street from the Lucky Dragon restaurant.
Enter the glass doors, and go up the stairs..

 It is a good place to take out some chinese food if you are
in a hurry, but I don't think I would take a date there.

	-Drae