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From: jerry@stratford.dab.ge.com (Jerry Szulinski)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Economical saddlebags
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:53:36 GMT
Organization: GE Simulation & Control Systems. Daytona Beach, FL

Does anybody have or used the standard Bagman saddlebags?

I'm getting ready for my upcoming trip up north. With it being three
weeks away, I decided to order some saddlebags ahead of time (two weeks ago)
instead of at the last minute as usual :-). The saddlebags I've found in the 
Dennis Kirk catalog seem to be a nice balance between price/quality...from 
the picture. I'm talking about the standard bagman's (15x12x7). All the given
info suggests this could be a good deal:
-Double urethane coated 1000 denier cordura nylon;
-Inside liners, outside rain covers;
-Slip on or off in seconds;                     Yeeppeee
-Lightweight, weather-resistant black bags;

D.K. has them for $86, Accessory Warehouse for $77 delivered, but here is the
catch: D.K. will not have them 'til mid-October; A.W. until Sept. 15th....
which is getting to be only about a week before I take off. Dealing with
mail order before, I know that a week is very little time for them to waste.
If anybody knows of a shop that has them in stock, I'd appreciate a note (I've
tried all the rag advertisers), also if you have any idea if they are worth
the heavily lesser price or if they are trash, please let me know. 
BTW, other bags (in D.K. anyway) are either a lot more expensive, smaller
or are made of 400 denier nylon (I assume lesser quality). Additionally, most
other charge extra for rain covers.
Post or reply as the mood strikes you, I'll summarize.

Jerry S.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (you better let him have one...)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 00:57:10 GMT

Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift) writes:
>In article <1992Aug28.222525.11603@javelin.sim.es.com> Dances With
>Bikers, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>>Loosely translated:
>>"I still don't have a clue, so I'm broadcasting my cluelessness to the
>>net instead of asking the Keeper of the List for a number."

>Man, DWB, that stings.... straight from the mouth of a DOD GOD. I stand
>chastised before the DOD community (wimper, wimper...).

Jest tryin' to make ya feel welcome here is all. And if I may be so bold
as to point out some of the finer points of flaming (Yea, I'm quoting
myself, but someone has to do it.) You'll note my flame lacks profanity,
references to Elvis and/or Hitler, comments on your relatives and/or
lovers, IQ (well, maybe a little there), or sexual preference, and yet
somehow still manages to have the desired effect. Though I will admit
that the humor quotient was sub-par, I'll try to do better in the future.

> Where is this
>KEEPER OF THE LIST? Is he a DOD GOD, demi-god, or just some brown-nosin',
>pussy-assed pee-on who is forced to be some kind of newsgroup secretary...

Other have covered this pretty well, and I love the irony, so I'll just
pass on to the next item.

>I've been reading this group for a while..
[ripped, bleeding, out of the context of your (un)original post]

Oh, how long? A day? A week? A month perhaps? Did you perchance notice a
message titled "FAQ - What is the DoD?" ?  Did you read it? Did you
understand it?

If the answers are no, then you are damned to wander through your spool
directory, a twisty maze of filenames, all alike, until you find the DoD
FAQ. Since it is a document of great power, it is able to resist the
daemon Expire on most systems. If, however, you have a weenie newsadmin,
then you are doomed to hold your breath until the next visitation of the
FAQ.

>SHOW YOURSELF KOTL, AND GIVE ME MY NUMBER!!!!

If you understand, things are just as they are.
If you do not understand, things are just as they are.
    Bill Johns, Keeper of Both Bikes of Choice, Zen Master, and not KotL.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Concours mirror problem?
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:15:34 GMT

mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones) writes:

>My 1987 Concours has a chronic problem with the mirrors blowing back
>and becoming useless.  In the past, I've managed to disassemble the
>mirrors and tighten the lock nuts, but I don't want to again.

>Another Concours owner told a rumor of Kawasaki recalling the mirrors
>from early Concourses.  My local shop couldn't find anything documented
>in their tech bulletins.

>Does anyone else have some information about this?

I dunno, I have an '86, but early in it's life both mirrors were
replaced. :{( I haven't had a problem.

*********************************************************************
'86 Concours.....Sophisticated Lady            Tom Dietrich             
'72 1000cc Sportster.....'Ol Sport               DoD # 055
^^^^^^^^^^^It *LIVES*!^^^^^^^^^^^^              AMA #524245
                                    Cool as a rule, but sometimes....
Two Jousts and a Gather, *BIG fun!*            (H. Lewis)
e-mail txd@Able.MKT.3Com.COM                   Ma Bell (408) 738-8301
Disclaimer: 3Com takes no responsibility for opinions preceding this.

*********************************************************************
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Ross Allan Roberts)
Subject: Re: >= 600 Sport bikes
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:34:35 GMT

>>   I would like to have a comparison, however brief
>>   it might be of sport bikes with capacity >= 600 CC.
>
>They're great.

Ed, Ed, ED-meister, the big E.D.! You neglected the single most all-important 
element in choosing that magic beast of your very own... COLOR SCHEME.

The Yamahas seem to be stuck in this rut of Red/White/Blue or Black/Grey My 
personal favorite is the CBR6ooF2's Black/Blue/orangish/Pink... and the new 
Suzuki's look great but it's too early to see how the finish will fare.

Performance doesn't mean jack if it doesn't look like you belong on it wearing 
a thong and a pair of Oakley's.

 #############################################################################
#Ross Roberts (rroberts@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu)|'85 IT200, '81 MX100       #
#DoD#0340, still patiently awaiting the 6ooF2...  |'88 YFM350 Warrior         #
 #---------------------4-stroke good, 2-stroke gooder!---------------------- #
 #       Today's Lyric:'I don't believe in love... it's never worth          #
 #                   the pain that you feel' -- Queensryche                  #
 #############################################################################
From: v058l789@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ethan A Bowerman)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: People with 83-85 Nighthawk 650's?
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:08:00 GMT
Followup-To: rec.motorcycles
Distribution: ncl,uk,world
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BtoqGx.6F5@newcastle.ac.uk>, R.Collins@newcastle.ac.uk (R. Collins) writes...
> 
>In article <BtnDxo.8wH@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v058l789@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Ethan A Bowerman) writes:
>>
>>
>>	The subject line pretty much says it all
> 
>[vital statistics deleted]
> 
>why isn't it faster than my first bike an 89 GS500E 
> 
>[bike comparison deleted]  
> 
>>I've seen 110mph indicated on the GS and 110mph
>>indicated on the Nighthawk.  The speedo's are resonably close in calibration.
>				  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	Well, I'm friends with the guy I sold it to and when I'm say 60, he
reads only a needle over 60 (about 61-62).  Also, I know MY Honda is a little
optimistic and I know that my top speed on the GS500E was about 113
indicated where as a cycle magazine clocked it at 109.

> 
>How do you know this?
> 
>>
>>	Any ideas?
>>
> 
>Suzuki clocks are notoriously over-optimistic, whereas Mr. Hondas items tend
>to be fairly honest.  Also, what about rolling and standing quarter figures, the
>650's extra ponies should make an impression there.


	Yeah, but that still doesn't answer my question.  Isn't 112 a little
low for a top speed on a bike with 73 hp??
	Thanks for the reply though.   I hope I see more.

> 
> 
>>
>>
>>					Ethan Bowerman  
> 
>___
>Raybo		DoD#1058		XBR500

	
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ralph@swmerc.rain.com (Ralph Merwin)
Subject: Re: carrying moolah on long trips
Organization: Merwin Software Services, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 04:44:57 GMT

In article <19739@drutx.ATT.COM> pms@druhi.ATT.COM (Paul M. Smith) writes:
>In article <5093@gdls.UUCP> parker@gdls.UUCP (The Dougster) writes:
>>
>>It started me wondering, though, what are safe ways of carrying
>>large amounts of money (or just guaranteeing access to a large supply
>>of funds) over long periods of time while on a bike, away from home,
>>and maybe out of the country?
>
>If I remember correctly from "Easy Rider", the place to carry large
>sums of money on a bike is in the gas tank.  No, wait...  that didn't
>work out so well.

Well, actually, the hiding place worked out quite well.  What didn't work
was the method of interacting with the locals...  I mean, you just don't
go around flippng off someone with a single digit IQ pointing a shotgun at
your head!

Ralph


-- 
Ralph Merwin                   FJ1200 -------------------- "The PleasureDroid"
ralph@swmerc.rain.com          860 GTS --------------------------- "Red Sonja"
DoD #0547                      850 Commando ---------- "Just a road trip away"
                               GS1150ES --- "2-wheel S.O. Cryonics Experiment"
From: george@webb.psych.ufl.edu (Stephanie George)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: rental bikes in SF?
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:55:45 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Univ. of Florida, Psychology Dept.

I'll be going out to San Francisco this fall and I'd like to rent a bike
for the week that I'm there.  Is there such a place?

Last year when I went to San Jose, the Bay Area Denizens offered me and
loaned me helmet and *bike* for which I am eternally grateful.  Such
hospitality is quite unparalleled.  However, not wanting to tip over
another bike as I did to Chuck's last year, I would like to rent one.

This year, I get to stay over a Saturday (Oct. 31),too, so I've got to go
explore again.

For this flatlander, riding the CA hills & roads was close to a religious
experience.

Thanks,

Stephanie
-- 
Stephanie George        DoD #218         Box 100356, Shands Teaching Hospital 
george@net.health.ufl.edu                University of Florida
(904) 395-0410                           Gainesville, FL  32610
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 16:15:38 GMT

In article <1499@adpplz.UUCP> martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding) writes:
>
>The other BMW, interestingly enough, does not respond to countersteering,
>or weight control. Except for absolutely straight travel <stuff deleted>

Doesn't steer at all, eh? So, how fast is its quarter mile?

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: carrying moolah on long trips
Date: 27 Aug 1992 16:46:55 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 92Aug27103854@thneed.cs.duke.edu, jep@cs.duke.edu (Jonathan E. Polito) writes:
>
>A travelling companion is also a big help in watching
>things when you are say taking a shower or something. 

If you are going to sleep on the beach or in the park, find a group
and stay awake in shifts.

>Friends are also
>a big help when you are lost in Amsterdam when you are feeling
>*really* good 

Don't by *anything* off the streets in Amsterdam.

And check out the Fabulous Furry Freak Brothers Bar, it's on the upper
level of a split level, the pool hall below is the local Hell's Angles
hang out (or used to be).  I have no idea where it is, other than that
it is within walking distance of Dam's Square.  Interesting menu...

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Question from a "Newbie"
Date: 28 Aug 1992 16:02:03 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 23781@serval.net.wsu.edu, bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>In article <ceay9cy00WBKA4jr5K@andrew.cmu.edu> ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon) writes:
>
>
>This is a disgusting, unwarranted, repulsive attack on poor, dear sweet
>Ed.  

Why, fuck you very much, Bill.

>He has worked hard on the lesser
>coast version of the Great Pacific Northwest Dryside Gather,

Lesser only in the ratio of posers to bikers. 

>Or maybe he just lost his balance.  Forgot how to counter steer.  

Nope.  Wrenched the wheel in the truck hard to the left the other day
for a great right-hand sweeper.  Silly me, I forgot truck tires don't
have ice cream cones in them.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
From: rss@gooey.eng-sun (Rich Scire)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Re: Gun control in California
Date: 4 Sep 92 19:10:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: fripp.1992Sep4.191051.25572
Reply-To: rss@gooey.eng-sun
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.

> CVC 27400:
> 	"No person operating any motor vehicle or bicycle shall wear any
> headset covering, or any earplugs in, both ears. [...]"
> 
> This has been interpreted to include anything that covers both ears,
> including helmets.  Although you could probably wear a "Harley" beany
> helmet without being ticketed.

	-David

Doesn't this make it illegal to wear a helmet while riding a motorcycle?

Rich

---

Rich Scire   DoD #1341            Cadre Technologies
E-Mail:  rss@cadre.com            222 Richmond St., Providence RI  02903
Phone:  (401) 351-5950            FAX: (401) 351-7380
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: new bike .vs. vasectomy
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:49:20 GMT

In article <6354@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:
>elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM (elaine 'BEANO' leffler) writes:
>: there's a non-surgical vasectomy procedure (i have a videotape of it, please
>: don't ask WHY) that involves a VERY small incision.  the vas is then pulled from
>: the scrotum with an instrument that looks remarkably like a crochet hook

Let's see... was that "knit one, pearl two", or "knit two, pearl one"?

> Sorry, but if they cut it's surgery.  Minor surgery in this case, but surgery
                                        ^^^^^
Speak for yourself!

>none the less.  They do it in a doctor's office nowadays.  Local anesthetic,
>which means the stick a needle in, after that it doesn't really hurt till
>the anesthesia wears off.
>   How do I know?  Want to see the scars?

Ask me again in a year or two.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: fleckens@plains.NoDak.edu (Clint Fleckenstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: GSRX's and Posing
Date: 29 Aug 92 19:48:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: plains.19965
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <5961@transfer.stratus.com> cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com writes:
>
>I'm not knocking the GSRX or the people who *ride* them. I am knocking the
>squids who pose on them and zip down Main St. USA dressed in neon with their
>dates on the back on Friday nights. 

I happen to LIKE schmoozing around town, sometimes with a date on the back.
Yet I can blow away much larger bikes when we hit the outta-town twisties
that surround the Bismarck area.  There's a time and place for everything.
The true posers are the ones with the pricey hardware that can't ride it
or don't know a thing about it.  

Don't get me wrong...our group of 20 or so sport-bikers meets at the 
local McRock'n'Roll, we toodle around to see which friends of ours are
out, and then we head out of town for the REAL riding.  I don't think
that the casual riding in the interim is any less manly.

>Give me a 100mph sweeper in the mountains any day !

Mountains?  What are those?  Oh yeah...I remember some mention of those
when I lived in Montana...


Clint
 __________________________________________________________________________
 Clint Fleckenstein   <fleckens@plains.nodak.edu> <fleckens@NDSUVM1.BITNET>
 Master Control/Operations, KFYR TV 5 / KQCD TV 7              .5k EX Pilot  
 My login and conduct don't belong to Meyer Broadcasting.         DoD #5150
From: ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Question from a "Newbie"
Date: 26 Aug 92 19:58:32 GMT
	<1992Aug25.130850@tiger1.prime.com>
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Dave Gavin@tiger1.prime writes:

>This is amazing...been reading this group for about a year...
>a short to the point answer to a question with no flames
>and no BS about learning to ride before posting to this
>group
> 
>roup : )gIn article <17dbj1INN5r@sixgun.East.Sun.COM>,
egreen@east.sun.com (Ed 
>Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>> In article 92Aug24124310@dante.nmsu.edu, kemery@nmsu.edu (Kendal
Emery) write
>s:
>> >
>> >Can someone explain to me the reserve tank theory,  How gas gets
>> >into reserve tank..  ie. do I just fill up my tank and presto...
>> >gas is in reserve tank?  
>> 

[clear, to the point explanation deleted]

>> ---
>> Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
>>   Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
>> DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
>>  (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
> 

Notice the "former" in his sig.  He had his bike expropriated when it
became clear that he was no longer holding up the standards of the net
and the DoD.  Also, DoD numbers such as #0111 are "parking" numbers. 
They are given to certain comatose people as a courtesy while they live
out their twilight years in a rocking chair.


-peter

* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
*                             WATCH BACK!                           *
*                                                                   *
* DoD #10o00                 Suzuki LS650H         NAUI INST. #1434 *
*                             (for sale)                            *
*                             Honda CM400                           *
*                           (for sale, too)                         *
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
From: davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Dave Edmondson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: X-reg in the UK?
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:59:58 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

In <1992Sep3.172407.16295@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) 
writes:

>Would someone from the UK please tell me what 'J-reg', 'D-reg', etc. means?
>Does it have something to do with the tiered liscensing system?

No, just age.

A scheme was introduced in 196* (left as exercise for the reader) whereby the 
formula for a registration was:

Three letter area based code, number up to 999, single letter year code.

I think the year code originally changed with the calendar year but it was 
soon changed to 1st August.  The letters I O Q* U and Z are not used in 
registration numbers.  When the sequence came to an and when aaa nnn Y 
finished at the and of July 1983 they changed it round to A nnn aaa.  So a J 
reg bike is between 2 months and 14 months old now.

* Some re-registered vehicles are issued with a Q based plate, often seen on 
kit cars, ex-army Land Rovers etc.

Clear as mud?

Dave

P.S. The Guzzi is F 777 RPB hence the DoD number.
--
David Edmondson                 davide@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
Queen Mary & Westfield College  DoD#0777 Guzzi Le Mans 1000
"Eccles never keeps his boots in his pocket."
From: egreen@east.sun.com (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: test post
Date: 3 Sep 1992 15:59:59 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: egreen@east.sun.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 419@halfdome.sf.ca.us, bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (bob pasker) writes:
>
>q: what is the difference between a lawyer and a catfish?
>a: one is a scum-sucking bottom dweller and the other one is a fish:-)

Laszlo is a lawyer?!?  :^)

>what brings this to mind, of course, is the guy who wants to sue
>the guy who sold him a bike.  where is ed.green decrying the 
>litigonous nature of the world and telling him that he should 
>take some RESPONSIBILITY for what he did, rather than getting
>the scumsuckers to fight his battle.

litigonous?

>of course, my favorite question to ask libertarians is, "so, you wouldn't
>mind if i moved in next door and built a thermonuclear [hi boys from NSA!]
>device in the backyard?"

Nope.  I'd just go into Osserac mode.  (Yeah, it's misspelled.)

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: beginner's luck
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 00:39:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.170734.7401@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
>Tall people who have been riding for a long time (like me) usually
>forget about the joys of small bikes, and have to be reminded
>by shorter riders, usually women, who are more recent converts to
>the sport.

Sigh.  You really can't resist the urge to dig yourself in deeper,
can you?

>Thought you'd be Politicaly Correct and catch me in a bit of
>sexisim [sic], eh?  Phhhhbbbt! :-)

OK.  I'll bite.  How *did* you determine that Laurie is a "more recent
convert to the sport"?  (Or "short," for that matter--I missed the
reference if there was one.)

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
-- '80 BMW R65   BMWMOA #36829   DoD #0969   NRA #CDF6091M
From: dsc3jfs@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Jim Small)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wheelies
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:40:57 GMT
Organization: Naval Medical Research & Development Command

In article <3513@ra.nrl.navy.mil> weiss writes:
>In article <Bu0EKx.IJ4@wpi.WPI.EDU>, rtaraz@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ramin Taraz) writes...
>>I just bought a Kawi EX500 (first bike) and was wondering how I can practice
>>doing wheelis without killing myself or droping the bike?
>
>Holding in the clutch lever, rev the engine to about 10,000 rpm and then 
>suddenly release the clutch.  Wear leathers to avoid injury.

You only need to rev to 7,000 rpm to achieve  ZERO NORMAL FORCE (tm)
-- 
I love the 3b2
The 3b2 is my friend.