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From: maurices@spock.dis.cccd.edu (Maurice Shihadi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Ethernet Connectivity and 3.0
Date: 10 Sep 92 21:15:57 GMT
Organization: Coast Community College District, Costa Mesa, CA

I want to prepare for 3.0 and need to know the following:

I want to run ethernet from a NeXTstation mono to two
Macintosh's.  I need two ethernet cards and NeXT software
that will bring up Mac Apps on the 17 inch monochrome monitor
adding to my screen realestate and allowing the NeXT keyboard
and mouse to controll either Mac (SE/30 and next years rumored 
docking station) cpu.  I also want to be able to switch between
sessions without any problems.  What would be a decent memory configuration
(RAM) for the NeXT to be a front panel and file server?
I need to do alot of music/multimedia/video stuff so I wonder
what advantages 3.0 will have other than the most obvious.  
PC Week had an article concerning a new ethernet card at twice 
the speed of the old.  Would this make a difference to my config?
I know the XWindow's solution but wonder if things change with 3.0.
Anybody got any ideas, oppinions, experiences, etc.



maurices
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: pascal@nextasy.physics.mcmaster.ca (Pascal Gaudette)
Subject: Re: more on why NeXT has not earned much credibility
Organization: McMaster University, Hamilton, Ontario, Canada.
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 22:00:33 GMT

In article <MS-C.716580141.377401575.mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU>  
mrc@Tomobiki-Cho.CAC.Washington.EDU (Mark Crispin) writes:

> 1) Officially, 3.0 is NOT YET SHIPPING.  They said `it is
> possible that some people got early copies, but we are not
> shipping until later this week.'  In other words, certain
> high-profile customers got their copies special to give
> the appearance of 3.0 shipping. 
> 

Gee, the upgrade packages for all the turbos on campus
got here last friday. And we CERTAINLY don't qualify
as "high profile"... If 3.0 can make its way to
a relatively small university, in *Canada*, then I'd
say it definitely *must* be shipping! :-)

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From: andrewd@tamsun.tamu.edu (Andrew T Duchowski)
Subject: Question on SIMMS
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:21:52 GMT

Hi,

I've been debating on buying SIMMS for my cube.  I almost bought some
the other day until the guy (I forget the place) told me that I
had to buy the chips in banks of four.  I wanted to get 4x8 sims for
4M for about $105.  I have $100, but don't have $400 like the guy
wanted.  So here's my question:

Right now I have 8 of the 16 slots filled with what I presume to be
1x8 chips giving me 8M of memory.  Can I simply plug in 1 bank
of 4x8 simms to give me a total of 12M?  Or can one not mix up
the type of chips on the board, ie. it's either all 1x8 or all
4x8.

Thanks in advance.  Please email.  Post optionally.

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From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: Re: NT / NeXT trivia
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:32:14 GMT

In article <92Sep10.034631.23074@acs.ucalgary.ca> bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone) writes:
>It's far from clear just why it happens but...
>
>Trying to read ANY file from the Windows NT July prerelease
>CD-ROM panics the NeXT 3.0 kernel.  You can see the filesystem,
>just don't open anything.
>
>Does this mean that NeXT can handle NT's existance, but the
>details make them panic?  I don't wanna know.
>
>Blake

	When NS486 hits the street it will be NT that will be in a panic.
	Get ready to mop up the drool from all the PC owners.

	Charlie

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From: hallan@cix.compulink.co.uk (Hugh Allan)
Subject: Amiga graphics => NeXT format
Reply-To: hallan@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:54:38 +0000

>ILBM is an old Amiga grafics format ... normally Amiga works with IFF Format
>I don t now what resolution the pictures have but normaly load it into DPaint
>and save it as IFF .... noe there is no problem...

>greetings Micha

>(reini@nextpoint.de)

Naaaaaahhhhhh Dude. IFF is a standard for storing data in the form of
nested packets(Chunks we call them). ILBM(Interleaved BitMap) is a
FORM type for IFF files. All the Amiga graphics packages save out as
IFF ILBMs.

To answer the question, there is an IFF converter available from
Purdue, named something like iff2tiff, or something like that.
Tpying this on the 486PC so I'm Digital Librarian-less. <*I WANT MY
NeXTStep 486i, *WHINE* *> Even handles 24 Bit ASDGs if I remember.


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From: malexand@aludra.usc.edu (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Reading Tar floppies on a NeXT
Date: 8 Sep 1992 00:02:11 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

jgshir@athena.mit.edu (John G Shirlaw) writes:

>I have a floppy I formated on a RS6000 and then wrote a TAR archive on to it.

>How do I recover this info on to my NeXT?  

>I know the NeXT has TAR but for starters how do I get the floppy in without the
>NeXT formating it as it seams to want to?

>thanks in advance

>john shirlaw.

Since you most likely used >format< on the rs/6k, the next would not be able to
read the disk. Use dosformat instead, writing out the tar-file with >doswrite<
(slow.) Another possibility would be to tar at the 6k onto the raw fd device 
while reading it on the next with >tar -xvf /dev/rfd0a < (untested). However,
rcp, ftp, tftp, ... between the 6k and the next would be nicer.

Cheers,

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From: bruce@pages.com(Bruce Henderson)
Subject: Re: Spreadsheets (was Mesa vs. Appsoft)
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:01:15 GMT


In comp.sys.next.misc article <716000430.F00004@blkcat.UUCP> 
David.Gursky@p394.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Gursky) wrote:
> I'll throw my two cents in to this debate.  The one thing missing from
> everyone's spreadsheet application is compatibility with Excel*.  Yes, it's  
very

[...]

> * What is Excel compatibility?  It is the ability to interpret correctly a
> complete set of Excel features in an Excel spreadsheet, including references  
to
> Macros, external documents (i.e. charts), formulas, the whole shebang.

Well,

one thing that may stand in your way is the complexity of the .biff format.   
For those of you who just said "What is biff"  it is the excel file format.   
You see,  unlike wks, or SYLK, biff is not a file format that was meant to be  
read by anything other than Excel.  It more or less consists of a partial dump  
of their VM memory system (on the Mac and Windows) to disk.  Therefore,  
interpreting it is no small task.

When I was at Ashton-Tate, PowerStep's (now Appsoft Solution) sister product  
(FullImpact on the Mac) could read Excel files up to 3.0.  And it was a small  
miracle.

If you really wanted to be of service to the Spreadsheet comunity, you could  
write a 3.0 filter service that cranked .biff to one of the 1-2-3 formats, wich  
are the ones that they all support.

So I agree that Excel file format from 4.0 or better (now the current rev) is  
highly desireable, it is not going to be easy.

Bruce
From: bchin@terminus.umd.edu (Bill Chin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: more on why NeXT has not earned much credibility
Date: 15 Sep 92 20:43:30 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, Dept. of Good Guys and Cool Stuff


[stuff on 3.0 not shipping deleted]

Well, the University of Maryland Computer Emporium (our campus computer
store) received a shipment of 100 3.0 upgrade packages recently.
About 90 of them are already gone to the backlog customers, with
only a few that haven't picked them up yet.  Another shipment is
expected in a few days.

Looks like they're getting out there!

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From: Alex Raftis
Subject: Re: Dammit, I'm dumb. Why doesn't talk work?
Reply-To: alex@cosmos.acs.calpoly.edu
Organization: Cal Poly State University, San Luis Obispo
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:44:14 GMT

Daniel M. Rosenberg writes
> I *know* this was just posted; you are perfectly justified in
> flaming me along with your answer, but the post swished by me
> and I cannot find the answer in a FAQ.
> 
> On some NeXT's, you type "talk," and it says,
> 
> "Go away. You don't exist."
> 
> I tried copying a binary from a working on to a non-working one, no
> avail. What's the deal, and how does on fix it?
> 
> Thanks for any hints. Please ignore my affiliation.
> 

I've occaissionally had this problem and the only thing I can find is that
talk doesn't like to work with Stewart, and I'm not sure why, since I can
execute the call that has problems in other code under Stewart. I blame
Stuart, because I can start up X and an xterm and talk will work fine. This
problem may hold true for Terminal, since it's based on Stuart. 

My only guess for the reason is that Stuart handles the tty's kind of 
strangly. To see the effect, do a "w -d" while a bunch of Stuart windows are
open, and none of the tty's will be reported, just one process being used
by Stuart. (BTW, the -d flag is an undocumented, but highly useful flag to w).
Here's a sample output...

11:26am data:/home/data/u2/alex> w -d
 11:39am  up 39 days,  3:25,  2 users,  load average: 1.24, 1.87, 1.70
User     tty       login@  idle   JCPU   PCPU  what
                10285   /LocalApps/Stuart.app/Stuart -NXA & 2 0
alex     console   8Sep9291days   2:11   2:06  /LocalApps/Stuart.app/Stuart -NX

If you had started up an xterm, you'd see an addional login under your name,
a tty associated with it, and a process running the xterm. With Stuart, you'll
only ever see the console tty, despite addionally open windows. 

I think the has the effect of confusing talk, which doesn't manage to associate
you talk request with a name and a tty. I've tried playing with the code a
little, but like I said, the calls work individually from other code fragments,
so until I have more time, I remain stumped.

Alex
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From: basil@aelle.cs.odu.edu (Keith Basil)
Subject: NetHack 3.0 for NeXT?
Summary: Looking for NetHack 3.0 for NeXT.
Keywords: NetHack 3.0, games, hack
Organization: Old Dominion University, Norfolk, Va
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:16:33 GMT

	Has anyone sucessfully compiled NetHack 3.0 for the NeXT?  The source
	is too large for some users to handle and not all NeXTs have the
	developers tools to create the executable anyway.  If someone has
	the NetHack 3.0 binaries, email me and/or submit them to a NeXT ftp
	site.  I'm sure other's would like to have NetHack as well.

	keith
From: woo@ornl.gov (John W. Wooten)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: SCSI Drives for NeXT
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:09:03 GMT
Organization: Oak Ridge National Laboratory

I've received some quotes from TECOR regarding external SCSI drives  
that they claim are great for the NeXT.  The prices are $2450 for  
external drive either DEC or HP with 1.2 gigabyte (~1.0 formatted)  
capacity.  These are 3.50 in drives with seek times 9-11 msecs.

Does anyone have any experience with this company, or these drives?

Are drivers and formatters available for the NeXT that are really good?

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From: asd@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Doug McClure)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.dcom.modems
Subject: Re: ZyXEL 1496 modem
Date: 14 Sep 92 06:25:12 GMT
Organization: Purdue University

In <BuJqJA.Eus@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:

>grio@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Daniel L Grillo) writes:

>>How much did they charge for the 1496E?

>Since I'm not connected with them, (except as a satisfied customer)
>I don't feel bad about posting a price -
>it apparently changes all the time but about 2 weeks ago they were
>quoting $349 plus a few dollars shipping.  They don't take credit
>cards ('yet').  It has the latest production (4.13) ROMs, including
>Caller ID (too bad not in my area yet).
>(technically 5.00 is the latest, but it's still in beta)

Don't be too sure, I got mine with 5.01 roms installed.  I'm pretty
sure it's 5.01.  I don't remeber if it was just 5.00 or 5.01.

Unfortunately, it came with a much outdated manual.  It talks about
14400 FAX as being *under development* in my manual.  I'm curious if
the Zero One bbs has up-to-date documentation.  There are a number of
options I really need to know about.

-dsm
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: 3.0 and faxing.
Date: 15 Sep 92 10:57:42 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: Synapse Computer Consultants
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I seem to recall that new features were added to 3.0 faxing and so on,
but the question I've got is:

Can you send a fax immediately?  IE: If you're talking on the phone to someone,
and you have a fax modem, can you press a button and have it instantly
send the current docuemtn, without having to dial a number first?


Also: what has been done to faxing, what have they changed and improved?

Curious,
Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
Subject: Re: Spreadsheets (was Mesa vs. Appsoft)
Reply-To: dpp@athena.com (David Pollak)
Organization: Athena Design, Inc.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 13:28:02 GMT

In article <716108512.F00004@blkcat.UUCP>  
David.Gursky@p394.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (David Gursky) writes:
> I posted:
> 
>   DG> I'll throw my two cents in to this debate.  The one thing missing  
from
>   DG> everyone's spreadsheet application is compatibility with Excel...
> 
> And Clifford T. Matthews (ctm@ardi.com) responded:
> 
>   CM> Excel 3.0a for the Macintosh runs under Executor 1.2 (shipping  
today).
>   CM> Excel 4.0 for the Macintosh runs under Executor 1.2.1 (shipping
>   CM> sometime next week, assuming we get the manuals back from the
>   CM> printer).
> 
> Clifford's response misses my point.  I know I can use Executor to run  
Excel,
> but  if a user can run Excel, they will not switch to Athena Design's  
Mesa,
> Appsoft's Solution, Lotus' Improv, or Informix's Wingz.  Athena Design,  
Appsoft,
> Lotus, and Informix all realize that backwards compatibility to  
competiting
> products is an effective method of winning new sales, because the user  
will not
> loose access to any of the information they have generated.  All I'm  
saying is
> that the specific set of formats supported needs to be expanded to  
include Excel
> (both Mac and PC versions.)

I think that Executor is a fine product and a cool concept, but I do not  
view it as a long term solution.  It is a way of bridging the software gap  
that still exists on the NeXT.  There is no good word processor (I think  
that MS Word 4.0 is *GREAT*) on the NeXT.  I was holding my breath for  
Pages and PasteUp, but I'd now place even money that Appsoft Write! will  
be out before either of the other two products (I wonder if the folks at  
Appsoft will trade a copy of Write! for a copy of Mesa :-))

Nevertheless, Executor will never offer what I bought my NeXT for:  
NeXTSTEP applications that are cool, interoperate (i.e., distributed  
objects), and look and feel right.  The Mac is almost 10 year old  
technology and looks it.  NeXTSTEP is the leading technology and I want my  
NeXTSTEP applications.  I'm hoping to make Mesa so cool that people will  
go "how did I ever use anything as clunky as Excel?" like they are now  
saying "How did I ever use anything as clucky as 1-2-3?" after seeing  
Mesa.

Cliff is doing a great service to the community, but if I simply wanted to  
run Mac applications, I'd go out and by a Quadra.

David

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From: aozer@next.com (Ali Ozer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.programmer
Subject: Re: looking at the bits in video frames (3.0 NeXT Dimension)
Date: 6 Sep 92 01:18:23 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Organization: Next Computer, Inc.

In article <1992Sep3.090837.4884@cubetech.com> Andrew Loewenstern writes:
>In article <1992Sep1.033025.7164@news.media.mit.edu> mike@media-lab.mit.edu writes:
>> ... What I would like to do is simply get my hands on the pixel array
>>that underlies the NXCachedImageRep of a grabbed frame,
>>without copying and converting the whole frame.
>Try to use either NXReadBitmap() or NXBitmapImageRep's
>initData:fromRect: method (NeXT prefers NXBitmapImageRep).

Arrg. I posted a longer reply to this question but I don't think it ever made
it out. However, if you see another similar reply from me, apologies.

As Andrew says, NeXT prefers NXBitmapImageRep. Under 3.0 reading images back
from the window server has been speeded up, and you will see the most gain
if you use the NXBitmapImageRep class. Under 3.0, all images come back as
out-of-line messages (rather than as 64K buckets of bits, using "readimage").
Also, under 3.0, it is possible for the images to come back "unpacked" (with
non-standard bytes-per-row and bits-per-pixel values). This might seem like 
a problem, but as long as you pay attention to the bytesPerRow and 
bitsPerPixel params of the images, you will be fine.

Of course, if you app happens to be a 2.0 app, or you are using NXReadBitmap(),
you cannot take advantage of this second speedup as your app is probably not
prepared to deal with unpacked images. So, use NXBitmapImageRep!

Ali, Ali_Ozer@NeXT.com
From: kosasih@cae.wisc.edu (Ariesto Kosasih)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: question: SoftPC and spice
Date: 5 Sep 92 23:38:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

In article <1992Sep5.003254.26592@samba.oit.unc.edu> Tim.Buck@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Tim Buck) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.221211.4413@rtsg.mot.com> schulkow@tophat2 (Diane Schulkowski) writes:
>>I have a NeXT Colorstation, and I would like to run Spice (a DOS app for  
>>circuit analysis) using SoftPC.  I'm having a problem using the mouse.


	Do you know that there is a program called NXSpice in
	the net? It's at cs.orst.edu. I don't remember the directory
	name.
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From: rao@tree.egr.uh.edu (Jagannatha  Rao)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Copying images from Webster DIctionary
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:53:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Houston


I amtrying the following on my Turbo Station, system 2.2. 

In the Webster application, I search for "cat" and get a nice picture to pop  
out. I want to copy this picture and paste it in other documents but I am not  
able to. I even tried to print this to preview and copy from there but it did  
not work. 

Any suggestions?

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From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: Re: ZyXEL 1496 modem
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:29:34 GMT

As a follow up to my own post --

	What's the difference (besides price) between the ZyXEL 1496
	and the 1496-E?

	Thanks again,

	Charlie

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From: dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US (Matthew Dillon)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re:  NS 3.0 Printer Support?
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Sep 92 11:05:35 PST
Organization: Not an Organization

>In article <1992Sep11.134235.16805@dvorak.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext3.amd.com (Ron Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes:
>>In article <dillon.0nij@overload.Berkeley.CA.US> dillon@overload.Berkeley.CA.US
>(Matthew Dillon) writes:
>>>>In article <BuBI7x.DJ7.2@cs.cmu.edu> anwar+@cs.cmu.edu (Anwar Mohammed)
>>>
>[bunch of printers deleted]
>>>HP_DeskJet_500C.ppd
>[bunch of printers deleted]

    Oops, let me clarify that line....	The PD DeskJet driver does not have
    a .ppd file (or, if it does, it doesn't work under 3.0) ... I simply
    copied the NeXT laser .PPD file so I could setup a print manager entry,
    then modified the printcap to use the PD driver instead of the
    postscript driver.	NeXT does not distribute a DeskJet ppd file.

					-Matt

>OK.  This is good news but...
>If I have a mono station and I want to print in color, what do I need to do ?
>
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