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From: slywczak@ame.gsfc.nasa.gov (Rich Slywczak)
Subject: Re: Help!  Please delete me from bluegrass mailing list!!!
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 12:32:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.190735.3639@godzilla.quotron.com>, jeff@godzilla.quotron.com (Jeff Marder) writes:
|> if anyone sees this who can do something about this, please help.  the
|> volume of mail is too great for me.  thanks!!!
|> 
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What is the "bluegrass mailing list" and how can I get on it??

--Rich 
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From: boyton@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jeff Boyton)
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 17:57:11 GMT
Subject: Nanci Griffith and her NEW ALBUM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk



    I did not see anything mentioned here, so I thought that I would 
spread the news:  Nanci Griffith is quite far along on her latest album
which will be title "Other Voices, Other Rooms".  She mentioned this in her 
concert last night at the Rocky Mountain FolkS Festival.  This will be a 
collection of other folk songwriter's songs.  She said that her first
love was folk music and this is her tribute.  She made it sound like
all of the music has been recorded because she mentioned the people she 
was able to work with including John Prine, The Indigo Girls and many 
others.  She did some of the songs from the new album at the concert.  
There was one from Kate Wolf, Tom Paxton and one other that I cannot 
remember.

    This is all of the news that I have.  I can't wait until this comes
out.  It sounds like it will be excellent.

Jeff Boyton
boyton@fc.hp.com
From: greg@netcom.com (Greg Bullough)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Whaling Songs?
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:32:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.tshna5.greg
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Aug31.133141.9533@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:
>Their whaling was traditionally done in open boats rowed out into the Bay
>of Biscay; that was doing it the hard way.  I don't know where you can get
>recordings of them; I haven't heard any for about 15 years.

"Shore Whaling" was quite a common, though relatvely un-remembered, form
of whaling. It took place in virtually all areas where "whale watching"
expeditions now ply their trade.

>Now can we have some traditional Canadian worksongs to accompany clubbing
>baby seals to death?

'Take This Hammer' or any other labor song connected with hammering should
do :-)
 
Sorry. That was really sick.
 
Greg
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From: jph613@huxley.anu.edu.au (John P Hughes)
Subject: Help! Martin Carthy Lyric Needed
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 29 Aug 92 01:13:21 GMT

I've been trying to research a poem that appeared on the "Rite Of
Passage" album, under the song title "Dominion of the Sword".

The jacket notes say it is an anonymous English Civil War ballad
that Carthy discovered in a Penguin Anthology of War Poetry.

Research here in Australia (including a day among the microfilms
in the National Library hasn't led me to the poem.

Can anyone help? I'm interested in either the original poem
or Carthy's adapted lyrics, parts of which are unintelligible
to me. 

Thanks In Advance.

John Hughes
Archaeology & Anthropology
Australian National University
john.hughes@anu.edu.au


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From: martin@lyra.cis.umassd.edu (Gary Martin)
Subject: Re: Songwriters' Covers (was Re: The Dutchman)
Organization: University of Massachusetts Dartmouth
	<l9q5ufINN8vh@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>
	<1992Aug28.141435.24560@tamsun.tamu.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:01:17 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.141435.24560@tamsun.tamu.edu> e343gv@tamuts.tamu.edu (Gary Varner) writes:


   Anybody know the origin of the term "cover"?  The sense of the term
   as used in this thread is not in my Webster's Third International.
   I'm wondering why the word began to be used this way.

It's short for "copy verbatim".  :-) :-)



--
Gary A. Martin, Assistant Professor of Mathematics, UMass Dartmouth
Martin@cis.umassd.edu
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From: bobsoron@world.std.com (Bob Soron)
Subject: Re: flaco jiminez
Followup-To: rec.music.folk
Summary: "Partners" isn't very good at all
Keywords: album new 
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 01:27:17 GMT

In article <BtyrsL.3s8@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> krol@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Ed Krol) writes:
>The Ry Cooder quote reminded me of something.  I was reading a magazine
>on a plane where they were talking about Flaco Jiminez doing an
>album with him headlining with all the people he was a studio
>musician for playing background for him.  Well I have been looking
>for the album and cant find it.  I thought the name was Partners.
>I can;t find one by that name, but saw one called Amigos.  Did I 
>just translate before I stored it away or is there another album 
>not yet released.

It's called "Partners," as you remember, on Reprise. Song list:

Change Partners, w. Steven Stills
Marina
Carmelita, w. Dwight Yoakam
El Puente Roto, w. Linda Ronstadt
Across the Borderline, w. John Hiatt
Me Esta Matando
The Girls from Texas w. Ry Cooder
West Texas Waltz w. Emmylou Harris
Las Golondrias
Eres Un Encanto
Don't Worry Baby w. Los Lobos

When I was in Austin last month, word on the street was that Reprise
says Flaco can't sell CDs -- Texas Tornados' success notwithstanding
-- and he has to do duets with Big Stars. I'm sure most of these
people are fans of his, but they dominate the CD; even on those cuts
without guests, Flaco's mixed down. "West Texas Waltz" is a pathetic
evisceration of Butch Hancock's sexiest song; Harris sings it as
if she wishes she were on another planet.

My advice is to wait for the next Texas Tornados album, currently
scheduled to appear in mid-to-late October.

Bob Soron
bobsoron@world.std.com
From: zebee@ucs.adelaide.edu.au (Zebee Johnstone)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Australian Folk?
Date: 2 Sep 92 00:37:40 GMT
Organization: Information Technology Division, The University of Adelaide, AUSTRALIA

Another OZ band is Roaring Jack - Scots punk folk, similar to The Pogues, 
but better (IMHO) as the lyrics are comprehensible as long as you can
decipher the lead singers Scots accent :-)
  
SA Brewing is promoting a compilation record of South Australian bands, 
with several different styles on the record. One of them is Those Kodiaks
who do original acoustic stuff.  THe record is being promoted in the US, 
I *think* is is called Australian Export.
  

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From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Diatonix
Date: 3 Sep 1992 11:02:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


Who said they had an E-A-D Hohner Corona? I don't believe there
is such a critter?
-- 
Ted....
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Guitar info wanted
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:04:50 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <92244.103846CORCORAN@NDSUVM1.BITNET> CORCORAN@NDSUVM1.BITNET (Henry Corcoran) writes:
>Hello, I am a novice guitarist and want to purchase a one evetually. I have
>many questions: steel vs. nylon strings, 6 vs. 12, new or used, what do I
>look for in a guitar, price etc. Since I can most likely afford to own one
>guitar, I have to choose wisely. My musical interests are celtic (reels, airs
>) and folk that has a lot of finger-picking. If people think this may take up
>too much space, e-mail me and I will send a summary to r.m.f. Thanks,

THe best guitar for fingerpicking is probably one of the smaller
steel stringed guitars such as a 000-18, 000-28, or OM.  Unfortunately,
all the cheaper guitars are Dreadnaught models which are what
most flatpickers and bands use because of the volume.  Stay away
from a 12 string unless you want badly to play the kind of stuff
Leadbelly does or other specialty styles that are done on the 12.
The classical nylon strung guitar can actually sound pretty good
on the styles you want to do so don't rule that out completely
if you get a good deal on a nice one.  The fingerboard is pretty
wide and so fingerpicking is actually easier.  They don't have
a lot of volume, but if you aren't performing, that doesn't matter.
Taylor makes the most affordable new guitars in the smaller
sized steel stringed models, if you want a high end.  Otherwise,
go for one of the Asian Martin knock-offs such as the Sigma.

-- 
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From: lopresti@henson.cc.wwu.edu (lopresti robert)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: covers: Springstein
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:59:51 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University


My favorite use of the word cover was when some record company
(Rhino?) put out a recording of Bruce SPringstein songs as performed
by people other than B.S.  They named the record after one of the
songs on the album: "Cover Me."
From: sachs@guvax.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: exit
Date: 30 Aug 92 21:23:16 -0400
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

Wow: someone else has heard Josh White Jr's albums???!

I used to see him at the Raven Gallery near Detroit in the seventies--
he is *wonderful* live, and his versions of both Spoon River and The
Dutchman put Michael Smith's own versions to shame (IMHO). On the
other hand, JWJ's recordings have never really pleased me. 

I highly recommend seeing him in person, if you get the chance. I 
think he just recorded a children's album, but am not too sure of that 
info.

Hilary
Xref: sparky rec.music.folk:5869 soc.culture.celtic:5638
From: canton@robinson.ilog.fr (Eric Canton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk,soc.culture.celtic
Subject: Re: The essential Celtic recordings?
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:28:52 GMT
	<1992Aug19.120912.14740@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
Organization: ILOG S.A., Gentilly, France
In-reply-to: mongoose@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au's message of 19 Aug 92 12:09:12 GMT


>	Other than Clannad, The Cheiftans etc., I would highly recommend
> Allen Stivell. He is a Breton artist who mixes traditional and modern
> instruments. Well worth a listen, even if he does sing in French (horrid
>language that).

Quoi! "horrid language" yourself !!! ;-}

What would you like him (or other Breton artists ) to sing in ? 
	Breton ? (they sometime do)
  	English ? (why should they ?)

There is just as much justification for a Breton folk singer to sing in 
  french than for a Scottish one to sing in english. I enjoy hearing Breton
  songs, and (as I don't speak Breton, which hasn't the reputation of an
  easy language, either) hearing and singing French songs (or translated-in-
  french songs).

Besides, French is by no means an "horrid language" for (most) french people.
It's all subject to personnal taste and background. Maybe you mean
  "horridly difficult" ? It sure is not that easy a language to master ...
  The fact that some non-french people try so hard to master it just proves
  how much other people may differ from your opinion.

Eric Canton, who's French, speaks English, tries to learn Irish and enjoys
  celtic music.
From: Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca (Robert Broughton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: St. Olaf's Gate: Where is it?
Date: 1 Sep 92 04:47:38 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

> John Morton writes:
> 
> This song is on a Nanci Griffith album.  I have liked it for a long
> time but only recently got down to figuring out what she's talking
> about.  What has got me wondering are all the hints in the lyrics
> as to where it takes place:
> 
>         "She came down from Bergen ..."
> 
>         "Waltzing Matilda while the bagpipes played 'Au Claire du Lune'"
> 
> Does anyone know where St. Olaf's Gate is?

Most towns in Norway that have more than 30,000 inhabitants have a "St. Olaf's
Gate". Bergen has one, and since Bergen is mentioned in the song, it's a
possibility. Oslo would be another possibility.

--
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Robert Broughton    Robert_Broughton@mindlink.bc.ca

"We calm and reassure. We embrace people with the message that we're
all in it together. That our leaders are infallible and that there is
nothing, absolutely nothing wrong." - Miles Drentell, _thirtysomething_
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: cimo@cs.montana.edu (Bob Cimikowski)
Subject: Ann Reed ???
Organization: CS
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:55:30 GMT


Anyone out there heard of Ann Reed?  She'll be here soon for a concert and I
would welcome any comments about her.  We tend to get a lot of "unknowns" here
and I would like to avoid any duds, if possible.  Also, a group named Cafe Noir
is coming.  Are they any good?


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From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Re: Lyke-Wake Dirge
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 3 Sep 92 20:34:13 GMT

In article <ywln90c.dani@netcom.com>, dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
>darkstar@u.washington.edu (Alden Hackmann):
>>I have recordings of this from Pentangle (Basket of Light) and Malicorne...
>>Can anyone point me to where I might find the lyrics, which are 
>>unintelligable on both recordings?  And what do they refer to?  
>
>I've seen the words attributed to the fifteenth century, though I'm
>not sure this is correct.  A 'lyke', or 'lich', is a corpse, so this
>is a dirge for the night of the wake, detailing what's about to happen
>to the deceased.  'Sleet' is salt, btw.  I believe the melody you heard
>is by Benjamin Britain (sp?).

A bit more on the song, courtesy of my friend Claire, who did a paper
on this in college.  She didn't mention what century it comes from, but
the language is technically known as Early Modern English, if that helps.
The words refer to some legends about what happens to you after you die.
In particular, the first place you'll come to will be a large field
(moor) full of thorns (whinnies), which you have to cross.  If you've
ever given shoes and socks to a beggar during your life, those very
shoes will be there waiting for you; if not, you get to cross barefoot.
After that, you come to a dreadful bridge, yclept Brig-o-Dread, which is
made of bones and spans a flaming chasm.  (Those who have played Adventure
will find this all strangely familiar.)  Across the bridge is Purgatory,
which is also full of flames.  If you've given gifts of food and drink
to poor people during your life, you can pass through safely to the
Nice Place on the other side; if not, you're toast.  In other words,
be nice to homeless people.

(Who says English majors are useless?)

By the way, the Kipper Family's "Lightweight Dirge" is not to be missed.
It's on their Christmas record, which I believe is entitled "Arrest
These Merry Gentlemen."

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From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Subject: Re: Australian Folk?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 10:19:30 GMT


Dont forget Slim Dusty!!
-- 
Ted....
From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: Michelle Shocked
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:00:22 GMT
	<1992Sep2.202652.14919@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: afd@bellcore.com's message of 2 Sep 92 20:26:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.202652.14919@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> afd@bellcore.com (Alex F. Dietz) writes:

   In article 2554@gvl.unisys.com, wrp@psl1.gvl.unisys.com (Bill Pringle) writes:
   >> 
   > Her "Campfile Tapes" is very folky - it was recorded on a portable
   > tape recorded at a campfire.  Just her and 10,000 crickets :^)
   > Michelle doesn't like it - it was supposedly published without her
   > knowledge or consent.  The sound quality is very bad, and you keep
   > hearing crickets, trucks, etc. in the background.

   IMHO the crickets, trucks, etc. are what give the album its appeal.

Well, don't forget the music, that plays its part too :-) I like this album
too - it's my favourite of all her albums - and I'm quite fond of all the
cricket noises.  I wouldn't say it's very bad sound quality at all,
everything is crystal clear to my ears.
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)
From: miner@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: GOSPEL SONGBOOKS query
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:53:50 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

I need to find gospel songbooks--books that contain the gospel tunes
most frequently done by bluegrass and folk groups--*not hymnals* but
books that have guitar/banjo etc. chords.  I have not seen these
around but they must be out there.

Suggestions welcome by mail or, if you think they would be of general
interest, here on the net.-- 
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From: ccsdgdc@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Douglas Clark)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: The Shetland Sessions
Date: 26 Aug 92 09:31:29 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

I picked up a 2-CD 128 minute set on Monday recorded at the Shetland
Festival. It is dominated by Aly Bain and his cronies
and is very good stuff. It grows on you. It is a digital recording,
very clean, made in conjunction with the BBC for some future series.
Issued by Lismor records of Glasgow (LCOM 7021/2).
A full-price asked for each CD.
'The Shetland Sessions' Volumes One and Two.

I also picked up Boys of the Lough 'Farewell and Remember Me' from
Shanachie which is high class stuff and Kathryn Tickell with her
second album 'Borderlands'.
From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
Subject: Re: The Shetland Sessions
Date: 26 Aug 92 14:22:01 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Edinburgh, Scotland
In-reply-to: ccsdgdc@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk's message of 26 Aug 92 09:31:29 GMT

In article <BtL3sI.Cwp@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk> ccsdgdc@sunlab1.bath.ac.uk (Douglas Clark) writes:

   I picked up a 2-CD 128 minute set on Monday recorded at the Shetland
   Festival. It is dominated by Aly Bain and his cronies
   and is very good stuff. It grows on you. It is a digital recording,
   very clean, made in conjunction with the BBC for some future series.

The BBC series has already been broadcast I'm afraid.  Maybe they didn't show
it in England.  Thanks for the info anyway, I'll have a look for the CDs...
--
	-- Chris. 	cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk   (on Janet, cc@uk.ac.ed.dcs)

		
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From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Subject: Thistle and Shamrock in North Texas?
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 02:03:36 GMT
Distribution: chi
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Along those lines, does anyone know if this show airs anywhere near
the Dallas area?  KERA 90.1 plays a fabulous blend of music as far
as my ears are concerned, but they don't carry that many of the APR
weekly shows.  I heard this show up in Oklahoma this weekend after
hearing about it from friends, and I'd like to hear it again.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
The sun is gonna shine again / We're gonna make it 'round that bend
I'll walk another mile with you, 'cause you're my friend
The sun is gonna shine again.			- Graham Parker
Newsgroups: rec.music.folk
From: rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu
Subject: close
Organization: Gallaudet University
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 04:12:49 GMT

Hi,
	I watched a movie the other night called Crossroads (aka the Karate 
Kid Goes to Mississippi). But it had some great blues music... The credits 
attributed them to Ry Cooder. What can you tell me about Ry Cooder. Is the 
music in that movie like most of his stuff? is the sound track easily 
available. Is other Cooder stuff good?  

skip
rlwilliams@gallua
Newsgroups: rec.music.video
From: jittlov@gumby.cs.caltech.edu (Mike Jittlov)
Subject: John Massari's Music on multi-network special!
Summary: John Massari's Music on multi-network special!
Keywords: music, synth, composer, genius, Massari
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 22:38:12 GMT

Attention and Alert!

To Music-Lovers everywhere, concerning the further sonic
adventures of one John Massari - who is a lookalike for his
hero-figure Frank Zappa, along with sharing a kindred spirit,
idealism, moustache, and nose.  To wit:

JOHN MASSARI, who co-starred as a Musical Genius (against his
protests, and under the pseudonym of "Steve Shostakovich") in
the critically-rave-reviewed action-comedy-adventure-special-
effects-laden fantasy and satire-on-Hollywood-and-the-System
feature film <gasp>, "The Wizard of Speed and Time" - and who
contributed much of the movie's music score - will once again
grace the airwaves of the entire North American Continent with
his most recent work, in:

      "SCARED SILENT - Exposing and Ending Child Abuse"
                 - Hosted by Oprah Winfrey -

A nation-wide simulcast Television Premiere, airing this Friday,
September 4, 1992, 10pm (9pm central), on CBS, NBC, _and_ PBS
- with an encore presentation on ABC, Sunday, September 6, 1992,
10pm (9pm central)!  This is the first primetime non-news show
ever to be aired by three broadcast networks simultaneously!

    John Massari composed all music for this TV special
    John Massari conducted all music for this TV special
    John Massari produced all music for this TV special
    John Massari performed all music for this TV special*
    John is very happy with all music for this TV special

  * with special thanks to John's friends, pianist Neil Posner
    and recording engineer Avi Hochberg.

Any immodesty in the above is due to the immense pride of this
note-poster.  John is the Prince of Humility :]

[Note 1:  the show's Executive Producer and Writer, Arnold
Shapiro, is _not_ connected with Shapiro-Glickenhaus Ent -
the corp >:p that is currently misdistributing our film, and
doing so without my authorization]

[Note 2:  info appreciated on Mr Z's mailing address, so I can
send him a free VHS of the movie he almost invested in - and
sagaciously did not]

[Note 3:  200 pardons if this is the wrong Newsgroup - I'm new
to the Net, just tapping all these keys & hoping for the best]


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