HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Good VMS PD/ShW site(s) needed
Date: 12 Dec 92 11:36:40 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <1992Dec10.191658.13709@dmu.ac.uk>, mjh@dmu.ac.uk (Mike Howarth) writes:
> Could someone please tell me of any really good sites for VMS PD or
> Shareware products on the Net, preferably Anon/FTP accessible.  In
> particular general VMS tools and mail systems.

  Try ftp.spc.edu (192.107.46.27).

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
From: dsroberts@beckman.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: $convert doesn't pack this file
Date: 18 Dec 92 07:21:17 PDT
Organization: Beckman Instruments

In article <1992Dec17.173404.9461@pslu1.psl.wisc.edu>, dspencer@chsra2.chsra.wisc.edu writes:
>I have been trying to reduce the size of a large indexed file (FDL included below).  I run $anal/rms/fdl, and generate the listing on the left side of the post, with a DATA_FILL factor of 57% in the anal_of_key 0 section.  I then run
>$edit/fdl/anal= /script=opt  
>on the *.fdl file, and it generates the three new allocations I have inserted
>on the right.  Then I run $convert..., but the file that is generated using 
>the new .fdl file is the same size as the old one.  I thought $convert was 
>supposed to tune and reduce files in this situation.  Am I wrong?  Any
>suggestions for improving the DATA_FILL I get out of this situation?

Convert removes internal fragmentation.  Tuning and reducing is a function of
your FDL and the file characteristics.

>        BUCKET_SIZE             8

Seems like a terribly small bucket size for such a large file

>        DATA_FILL               100

Your FDL has this line?  And you actually USED this FDL on your convert?

>        INDEX_COMPRESSION       yes

Turn this Off!!!!!  You're really hurting yourself with this one.
Index compression is okay for small files, and if you can get the whole index
into memory with one IO, but you turn off binary searches on the index and turn
it into sequential searches.  On a large file like this you're giving yourself
a tremendous performance penalty

>ANALYSIS_OF_KEY 0
>        DATA_FILL               57

Did you still have this fill after you converted?  If so, you did not use the
fdl when you converted.  Did you do another analyze of the file after you
converted?  Use

$ convert /fdl=name_of_your_fdl_file old_file new_file

If you don't get a fill of 100% with this fdl, then your convert is not
succeeding.

   Don Roberts                   Internet:  dsroberts@beckman.com
   Beckman Instruments, Inc.     Phone:     714/961-3029
   2500 Harbor Bl. Mailstop X-12 FAX:       714/961-3351
   Fullerton, CA  92634          Disclaimer:  Blame me, not Beckman.
   "Abortion isn't a 'choice', it's the slaughter of the innocent"
From: gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: NEWMAIL COUNT incorrect problems SOLVED (Was: Updated DISKFREE.COM)
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:46:00 GMT
Reply-To: gavron@ACES.COM
Organization: ACES Consulting Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Dec16.092318.13088@bsu-ucs>, 00mjstum@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (Matthew J. Stum) writes...
#(Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:
#> The following is the DEFINITIVE SOLUTION to the famous newmail count
#> problem.  If your NEWMAIL COUNT is off by one or more messages, extract 
#> the following and unpack it.
#> 
#> With thanks for the idea to package this going to Terry, Bo, Dan,
#> and Jane!
#> 
#> Ehud
#> 
#> --
#> Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
#> gavron@ACES.COM
#[lengthy Macro program deleted]
# 
#Question: Why didn't you use callable mail routines?

Because what I did use is better.  Had you tried it you wouldn't
have posted.

#Personally, I'd be very squeemish about running the code that you posted...

Because you didn't look at it, and didn't try it.  If you had,
you would probably not have posted this note.

#Matt
# 
#-- 
#Matt Stum                    Gwydion ap Myrddin       Ball State University
#00mjstum@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu   Shire of Afonlyn, MK     Muncie, IN  USA

	Ehud

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From: GREENWOODDE@FEDC06.FED.ORNL.GOV (Dave Greenwood)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: How to map fonts for DECwindows
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:12:57 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I'm trying to use my VAXstation as an Xwindows server for a non-VMS client.
Naturally, the client is asking for fonts I don't have.  Given VMS v5.4-3 and
DECwindows 2.0, is there a way to map the requested fonts to the available
fonts?  I tried creating DECW$FONTS:FONTS.ALIAS (as per the file in
DECW$EXAMPLES:) but no luck.  I also tried DECW$FONT_ALIAS_FILENAMES.DAT (which
I think is actually for MOTIF which I haven't installed yet) but it didn't work
either.

I have instructions for generating the missing fonts, but I thought I'd rather
just map the fonts (due to space considerations).

Thanks in advance.
Dave
--------------
Dave Greenwood                Internet: Greenwoodde@ORNL.GOV
Oak Ridge National Lab        %STD-W-DISCLAIMER, I don't speak for nobody else

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: ORAKEL@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Framstag)
Subject: Re: Elvis
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:51:54 GMT
X-Copyright1: Fuer Veroeffentlichungen AUSSERHALB des Newssystemes gelten MEINE Geschaeftsbedingungen.
X-Copyright2: Nichtbeachtung wird in der Regel zivil- und strafrechtliche Folgen nach sich ziehen.
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.25

In <1992Dec17.200630.26327@news.cs.brandeis.edu> partensky@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:

> I have been using Elvis (VMS version of vi editor) lately and encountered one
> annoying problem: upon exitting out of insert mode (type Esc), characters 
> immediately before and after the cursor became uppercased, so I have to
> replace them with lower case letters. 

I bet you're using F11 instead of a "real" ESC-key,
but F11 sends: <ESC>[23~  !

workaround: use CTRL-3 for ESC  or set yopur terminal to vt100


\  Ulli 'Framstag' Horlacher        \      psi%(0262)450502601::orakel  \
 \  Student consultant VAX/VMS and networks   \  orakel@dulruu51.bitnet  \
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: jwenger@ulci06.unil.ch ()
Subject: Re: NEWMAIL COUNT incorrect problems SOLVED (Was: Updated DISKFREE.COM)
Keywords: Tumbler, Casing, Tensioner, Ward, Pick, Hole
Reply-To: jwenger@ulci06.unil.ch ()
Organization: University of Lausanne - CH (Switzerland)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 16:04:56 GMT


In article <13DEC199221501535@spades.aces.com>, 
gavron@spades.aces.com (Ehud Gavron 602-570-2000 x. 2546) writes:

|>The following is the DEFINITIVE SOLUTION to the famous newmail count
|>problem.  If your NEWMAIL COUNT is off by one or more messages, extract 
|>the following and unpack it.
|>
|>With thanks for the idea to package this going to Terry, Bo, Dan,
|>and Jane!
|>
|>Ehud
|>
|>--
|>Ehud Gavron        (EG76)     
|>gavron@ACES.COM
|>

(long piece of macro code deleted)

I tried it and am still laughing. Thank you Ehud!

---------------
Jacques C. Wenger, University of Lausanne.
jwenger@ulys.unil.ch
From: ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VMS MAIL <-> PCSA MAIL binary files
Date: 13 Dec 92 15:41:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: kopc.01GS9V7Y6G6A8WW7NK
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


Well - I did post this question a week ago, but it seems to have been
sent to NLA0: or some other bit bucket.

Problem: I want to use MAIL to transfer some binary files between a VAX
         and some PC's. VMS MAIL supports mail of binary files and so do
         PCSA MAIL. The problem is that VMS MAIL implement it as foreign
         mail, while PCSA mail attaches a UUENCODED file.

Does anyone have a solution or any advice. Can PCSA MAIL send/receive
foreign MAIL ? Do anyone know how to generate PCSA MAIL compatible
uuencoded files (I tried to play a little with the UUen/deCODE that
comes with UCX - but lots of problems) ?

Thanks for any help !

                                                              Arne

Arne Vajhxj                             local DECNET:  KO::ARNE
Computer Department                     PSI:           PSI%23831001304030::ARNE
Business School of Southern Denmark     Internet:      ARNE@KO.HHS.DK
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu
Subject: Re: MOVE for Vms anywhere ?
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:13:10 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.094143.8053@cnplss5.cnps.philips.nl>, NL0242T@NLZCL (Oscar van Eijk) writes:
> In <1go1h5INNik@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
> 
>> The original question was not well-posed, since the querant didn't bother to
>> tell us exactly what this "MOVE" command was supposed to do.
> 
> I doubt that; till now you're the only one who didn't seem to understand that.
                         ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    Not true.  I didn't understand (I'm not proud, I'll admit it ;-), and
I sent a note to the orignal poster _asking_ for clarification.  NONE was
forthcoming, either privately or to the net, and THIS is what we get:
a seemlessly endless thread dealing with a fairly trivial query because
the respondants can't quite figure out what was originally being asked...

    It's one thing when "querants" don't post a summary, it's another
when they don't even respond to (polite) private messages.  At that point,
I say screw 'em.
			-Ken
-- 
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 SLAC, P.O.Box 4349, MS 98   |  DECnet:   45537::FAIRFIELD (45537=SLACVX)
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 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 These opinions are mine, not SLAC's, Stanford's, nor the DOE's...
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: bern@Uni-Trier.DE (Jochen Bern)
Subject: Re: How to prevent login.com from running.
Originator: bern@kleopatra
Organization: Theor. CS, FB IV / CS, Univ. of Trier, Germany (Internet TI.Uni-Trier.DE)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:45:42 GMT

In <BzC01F.LG3@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> hpassaue@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Billy Passauer) writes:
>Speaking of preventing login.com from running.  A while back a saw a
>/qualifier that one could type in after their username that would
>prevent this.  But I can't remember for the life of me what it is.
>Anyone have any ideas?  Thanks in advance.

HELP LOGIN lists /CLI, /COMMAND, /DISK, /NEW_PASSWORD and /TABLES.
/NOCOMMAND or /COMMAND=<some.other.file> would be what you want.

Gee, that's interesting ... !

Regards,
								J. Bern
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From: PARMALEE001@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU (Rich Parmalee)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Having other accounts display messages in the DECW session manager
Date: 15 Dec 92 12:22:59 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Here is my problem: I have a privileged account that I use to login to a
VAXstation. I also have alot of programs for X11 that I have been running out
of that account. Now the system manager is complaining to me again about how if
there is one line in these programs that harms his system that I will be in big
trouble.

So this is what I would like to do: I have an unprivileged student account
that is also authorized to login to the VAXstation. I would like to login with
the student account, open a window for the privileged account, and have the
messages from both displayed in the session manager window.

I know how to do everything above except how to get the messages to appear from
the account I didn't use to login to the VAXstation with.

Thank-you for any help. 

--
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* Rich Parmalee                                 PARMALEE001@WCSUB.CTSTATEU.EDU *
* Western Connecticut State University          WCSUB::PARMALEE001             *
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: ted@airplane.sharebase.com (Ted Marshall)
Subject: Re: Why does this code crash with ACCVIO?
Reply-To: ted@airplane.sharebase.com (Ted Marshall)
Organization: NCR/ShareBase Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 01:55:44 GMT

In article <PRZEMEK.92Dec9100328@rrdstrad.nist.gov> przemek@rrdstrad.nist.gov (Przemek Klosowski) writes:
>  for (i = 0; (i<SYMBOL_NAME_SIZE - 1) && (*source != '\0'); i++)
>    *dest++ = *source++;
>which, when compiled (using gcc 1.39) results in :
>%SYSTEM-F-ACCVIO, access violation, reason mask=04, 
>virtual address=175C4, PC=25C8A,PSL=03C00000
>
>The machine code that generates the error is
>025C8A: 	movb (r1), (r0)    
>with r0=95684(=0x175c4), r1=94591. I can manually deposit values at
>location pointed to by dest/r0 (using debugger 'deposit *dest=...'),
>so it is not a invalid address.
>
> TFM says that reason mask 04 (4(dec) = 0100(bin), so that bit 2 is
>on ?) means that I attempted a read-modify operation---am I right
>here?  But the source and destination addresses do not seem to
>overlap, so why exactly does my computer complain?

Actually, bit 2 means that it attempted a WRITE or MODIFY operation.
Since you have no bits set, the fault was due to a WRITE or MODIFY
to a read-only page.

I reproduced your error and the debugger response in VAX C by putting
a variable in a NOWRT psect (with a linker option) and having the
variable on the left side of an assignment. The debugger still allowed
me to modify the variable (I assume that the debugger changes read-
only pages to copy-on-write while it is in control).

So it looks like you have dest pointing at read-only memory. Not
knowing the details of gcc, I'd guess that it is pointing at a
variable somehow declared read-only or maybe a constant string.

Hope this helps.

-- 
Ted Marshall                             ted@sharebase.com   (408)369-5574
NCR Corp. (ShareBase Div.)             2055A Logic Dr., San Jose, CA 95124
The opinions expressed above are those of the poster and not his employer.
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue)
Subject: Re: Extension cable for DEC keyboard and mouse
Originator: jsue@pluto.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: The Dow Chemical Company
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:36:52 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.185943.28477@ncsa.uiuc.edu> jsue@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Jeffrey L. Sue) writes:
>
>Hmm... we just recieved a new VS4000/90, and with it came a mouse/keyboard
>extension cable.  Since I'm at home right now, I don't have it nearby to
>get the part number off of it.
>
>Try calling DEC Direct to see if they know about it.  Failing that, 
>maybe your local DEC sales force knows.
>

Well, as promised I found the order number and part number for the
keyboard and mouse extender.

	As per the packing slip:
	model number:	BC13M-10	10 ft. Keyboard/Mouse Extender
	part number:	17-02640-01

Hope this helps.
-- 
-----
Jeff Sue   
 - All opinions are mine -       (and you can't have any, nya nya nya)
From: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Anonymous SMTP
Date: 19 Dec 1992 12:00:34 GMT
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Distribution: world
Reply-To: carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol1.gps.caltech.edu

In article <1992Dec18.111355.1396@galaxy.gov.bc.ca>, ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts) writes:
>In article <9212171518.AA10066@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, CM3BCH11@staffordshire.ac.uk writes:
>> 
>> Someone may have mentioned this, but the best way of stopping people
>> accessing port 25 is to recompile telnet with a check in the code
>> to stop people specifying port 25. Thats what i'd do.
>
>When you have PCs and MACs on your network, you'll quickly find out that you're
>only fooling yourself on this one.  For example, I can easily issue a forgery
>at any time from my Mac without even breathing hard.  I just tried it and the
>only thing that gave me away was the mail header that included my IP address. 
>If I had a MAC or PC Telnet product that allowed me to specify the port #, my
>forgery would be even easier.

Sounds like you need to upgrade the SMTP software on your VAX.  The better
products will take the name you give in your HELO line and compare it with a
lookup of the name[s] associated with the IP address from which you're
connecting.  I.e., they'll gladly let you forge the username, but not the host
name.  Of course, you COULD forge enough intermediate headers that it looks
like the system from which you're committing the forgery was just one of many
hops the message took.

>I believe it was Ray Kaplan that once brutally explained in a Decus seminar
>that one of the first things you need to learn is that there are people out
>there smarter than you are.  Hurts the ego doesn't it?

I'm afraid, then, that Ray was also lulling his audience into a false sense of
security.  One of the points that James (the Amazing) Randi (a stage magician)
makes in his lectures is that the person trying to fool you doesn't have to be
smarter than you;  he just has to have run across something that never occurred
to you.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Carl J Lydick | INTERnet: CARL@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU | NSI/HEPnet: SOL1::CARL

Disclaimer:  Hey, I understand VAXen and VMS.  That's what I get paid for.  My
understanding of astronomy is purely at the amateur level (or below).  So
unless what I'm saying is directly related to VAX/VMS, don't hold me or my
organization responsible for it.  If it IS related to VAX/VMS, you can try to
hold me responsible for it, but my organization had nothing to do with it.
From: dragon@NSCVAX.PRINCETON.EDU (Mighty Firebreather)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: DCL program needed
Date: 14 Dec 92 14:49:20 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	No name <agate!spool.mu.edu!darwin.sura.net!newshost.LaTech.edu!VM.CC.LATECH.EDU!ST21519@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>
(and no return address!) writes:

>
>I am looking for a program called DCL which will decompress a VMS archive I
>have received.  I FTPed the VAX_LIST.TXT and found a system which might be able
>to offer the program - SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL - but I cannot seem to find any non
>MSDOS directories there....
>
>Can anyone lend me a hand in finding a copy of DCL, or a hand in how to get to
>the VMS software on the SIMTEL site?
>

	DCL is distributed with the VMS operating system.  If the archive 
that you received includes mail headers at the beginning, they must be 
removed.

	Otherwise, you simply need to say "@archive_name.sha" and wait. (If 
the extension is not "sha" substitute the acutal extension.)

	I am assuming that you have a "VMS_SHARE" archive.  If you have 
something else, disregard this message.  The archive is similar to a Unix 
shell archive or to a PostScript file.  It contains a "program" which will 
be interpreted by DCL.  This program will create, on your system, the files
contained in the archive.


*************************************************************************
*                                                                       *
*                        Here, there be dragons!                        *
*                      dragon@nscvax.princeton.edu                      *
*                                                                       *
*                                                Richard B. Gilbert     *
*************************************************************************
From: DAN@OJC.Colorado.EDU (Kornphuzed Kid!!)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Mail compression problem
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:08:40 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hello Vaxers!!

As the subject line states, I have a problem with compressing my mail file.  My
account is on an RZ26, 1.05 Gig, 3 1/2 spindle disk; connected to a VAX 6230 by
a SCSI controller.  The VAX is running VMS version 5.4-2.  Before compressing,
I'm able to list folders, do a directory of folders and read messages.  After
the compression, I try to get a listing of folders and it says that there are
no folders.  I compressed it two ways.  The first way was to issue the command
COMPRESS inside the MAIL utility.  The second way was to get an FDL file,
optimize it, then convert it back.  Either way I do it, the same thing happens,
I get an unreadable MAIL.MAI file.  This is a concern to our site because we
were thinking of putting our Series Z files on these disks.  We tune certain
files the same way, and were wondering if there is any way to optimize these
files and still have them readable.  Any help would be appreciated.  I'll
summarize if enough info is received.  Thanks. :-)

-=> Dan


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From: DAHMS@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de (Heribert Dahms)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Splitting a user disk
Date: 15 Dec 1992 15:01:31 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, FRG (Dept. of Mechanical Engineering)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: ifk29.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Dec14.152423.9384@iscsvax.uni.edu> connelly@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

> I have a series of DEFINE statements in SYLOGICALS.COM like the following:
> 
> $ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC/TRANSLATION=(CONC,TERM) STUDISK      MOE$DUB0:
> 
> and I've told my users to use logical name and not the physical device name
> in command procedures, etc., because the physical device *will* change from
> time to time.
[...]
> I would *like* to maintain the logical name of STUDISK for all current
> users of the device.  Here is what I envision doing:
[...]
>     $ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC/TRANSLATION=(CONC,TERM) STU1      MOE$DUB1:
>     $ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC/TRANSLATION=(CONC,TERM) STU2      MOE$DUB2:
>     $ DEFINE/SYSTEM/EXEC/TRANSLATION=(CONC,TERM) STUDISK   MOE$DUB1:,MOE$DUB2:
[...]
> Or is there a better way?
I suggest using the system-wide search-list logical name in SYSUAF so that
this is used as default.
If it's ok to split the users by UIC-group among the disks, it's possible
to override the logical name in the group logical name table, which you have
then to create and setup at system startup.
You could also redefine it in process or job table in LOGIN.COM or SYLOGIN.COM,
but these are not executed in all cases.
You might consider writing a program in any language which is installed with
GRPNAM or SYSNAM privilege and invoked in *LOGIN.COM (must LINK/NOTRACEBACK).


Thanks, Heribert (dahms@ifk20.mach.uni-karlsruhe.de)