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From: smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu (sofjan mustopoh)
Subject: Shimano Vs Abu Garcia
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 06:28:47 GMT


  
   Today i go scouting for my X'mas present for myself.
 so i went in to Sport Unlimited . A big store selling 
 just about everything. I browse the the baitcasting and
 spnning reels and found out the following.

     First i asked for a recomendation in spinning reels
 the helpfull salesman handed me a Shimano Aero Stradic
 and Aero Symetry  reels and ask me to spin it. 
 Wow i just could believe the smoothness of the reels.
 virtually no vibration at all. It also look so god
oops  Good in the silvery finish. As i glance across
 the show case i saw Abu Garcia Pro Max and etc. 
 i asked the salesman about them. the answer shock
me . He said " I wouldn't even show you , they are
 overprice and have very low quality " 
 At first i thought this is just a sales pitch. 
 but he reluctanly pick up the Abu and spin it for me
 i hear so much noise coming out from it and it vibrate. 
  I play with ABU Garcia Pro Max for sevral minutes and 
 Made up my mind . My choice will be Either Shimano 
 Strdic or Symetry.

   Next i look at another Shimano This time it is
 The Shimano Calcutta and Curado. 
 Calcutta are style in silvery finish and have the look
 of old bait cast. Round. Meanwhile Curado have those
 Modern oval design and finsh in Red color.
 after disassemble the two i prefer Calcutta
 because it has simpler design which translate into
 easier maintenace. Both Calcutta and curado employ 
 variable brake system . which i havent figure out
 how they work. and the 93 Calcutta has several improvement
 over 92 model which i found are 93 has equal length handles
 and 92 has short and long handles. 93 calcutta thumb bar is
 larger . And last 93 callcutta has 6 variable brake and
 92 has only two.

    I at least has partially made up my mind
 about my X'mas present . Now is there any one who use
 Calcutta and would like to tell your stories.
 Same with Shimano Symetry and Stradic.

 Muskie
 "Next year i'm gonna fish with Shimano"


Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: wczakareckis@orion.arc.nasa.gov (William C Zakareckis)
Subject: Re: Fishing Store in San Jose/SF Info Wanted
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 18:04:19 GMT

 
Sorry to take up bandwidth but my email reply bounced.

T&M Tackle Barn on Braham Lane just east of Camden Ave. in
south San Jose is one that I can recommend. Their phone 
number is (408) 264-4150.  Another shop that has pretty good
prices is Reed's Sport Shop on Alum Rock Ave. in East San Jose.
Their phone number is (408) 926-3020.  If you are looking for 
Fly fishing gear I can recommend The Midge Fly Shop in Los Altos.
They are on State St. Phone number is (415) 941-8871
 
Happy Shopping  :-)
 
Bill
 
wczakareckis@orion.arc.nasa.gov
------------------------------- 
Work is for people that don't know how to fish.
 
 
 
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From: kjun@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Pat Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: Fishing Magazines
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 16:27:27 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University -- Atmos Sci

>    F I E L D   A N D   S T R E A M  : although 'roung hunting season they
>				       tend to get distracted  ;)  they have
>				       a variety of articals from bass to
>				       trout   bait to flys  salt
>				       (sometimes) etc.  'Tips Tips' (tm)
>				       and a 'regional section' (north
>				       east).  I've had my perscription -
>				       ahem - SUBscription for eight years
>

Good magazine IF you live in the north. But for someone who lives in the
south, I think it's a waste of money. They don't talk much about
"confederate" fishing.

I've always enjoyed their annual fishing issue, though..

pat Fitzpatrick

Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Steve Rimar)
Subject: Re: protecting rods
Organization: The University of Akron
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 11:22:21 GMT

Some things may give off an offensive odor to fish.  You may just have to
several types of wax or coatings.  I have used armorall and silicone spray
on my rods without any noticeable effect on catching fish.  In fact silicone
spray works great on monofiliment line to keep it a little less tangle free
and from freezing up in cold weather.
 
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From: kjun@typhoon.atmos.colostate.edu (Pat Fitzpatrick)
Subject: Re: A bad day fishing...
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 02:18:43 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University -- Atmos Sci

I spent one summer in Boston. I had fun freshwater fishing, but was dismayed at the fishing at Cape Cod. Way overdeveloped, and never really caught anything.
I did have a friend who said that bluefish can be fun in the harbor, but
he wouldn't eat any because of the pollution. When I went to the harbor I
understood better -- you could see the toxic s**t floating on the water! And
I thought Galveston Bay was bad......

I would suspect that with the development (and the subsequent pollution)
as well as the shhhhhhhhhhtuff :-) from the harbor, yeah, it would hurt the
fishing.

Pat Fitzpatrick
From: sstari@uta.fi (Tapio Rissanen)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Walleye
Summary: Finnish weightbait
Keywords: Walleye fishing, weightbait
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:36:09 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland


	I dont know if this interests American newsreaders, but
	here in Finland we have some good walleye waters, namely
	certain lakes in Southern Finland (and also the Baltic sea).

	We have a special walleye lure which I havent seen at least
	in any American mail-order-catalogues. We call it WEIGHTBAIT.
	It is a sort of jig, made of solid lead, shaped either
	torpedo-like or rattl'n'rap-like, 3-4 inches long, weights
	about 20-40 gr and is connected to line in the middle of its
	body. What is special about this weightbait is that it has
	a simple propeller in its tail. They are used for trolling
	with a slow speed.

	In Finland walleyes are especially fond of blue colours.
	Because weightbait does not swim as common trolled baits do 
	and because walleye isnt much of a fighter, you can connect
	several baits in a single line to swim in various depths.

	Last summer my two friends made a most successful walleye 
	trip to lake Roine near the city of Tampere. It took them 
	only 3 hours to catch 12 walleyes. Best catch was three 
	walleyes in a single line.

	
	Good fishing luck from the land of tens of thousands lakes,

	Tapio.

Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: seanc@andersen.uucp (Sean Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Fly Fishing near Chicago?
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:02:37 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Andersen Consulting


I'm new to the Chicago area and I'm looking for
destination Fly Fish?  Any thoughts welcome.
Please specify if the streams are catch and
release.

Thanks in advance.

Sean Cunningham
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: cloyd_j@apollo.hp.com (John Cloyd)
Subject: re:a bad day fishing
Originator: cloyd_j@face_plant
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 21:03:46 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA

    Well, I'll add my Cape Cod saga too. As I 
mentioned last Wednesday, I took an FTO day on
Thursday to fly to the Vineyard with my friend
to chase false albacore. To say that I was psyched 
would be an understatement ! We were to meet at
the airport at 6:30AM and be met at Martha's Vine-
yard at 7:45 or so.
    I got up extra early to drive the 15 miles to
the Sanford, Me. airport. Last time we flew Air
Force 2 was there, but today it was quiet. Real
quiet. Like, just me. My friend Rex is never late
especially for something this important. It was
6:30 and I was alone. It was 6:50 and I was alone.
It was 7:00 - better call. Got Jackie, Rex' wife.
Oh, he doesn't keep his plane at this airport any
more. He keeps it 35 miles south of here. I can't
get him by phone. Great.
    35 miles goes by fast at 105 MPH, but it was
still 7:45 and I didn't know where his hangar was.
Fortunately I spied his car and he hadn't left -
he knows I'm never late for fishing either so he
waited. Our friend on the Vineyard knew neither of 
us is ever late for fishing - so he waited too !
    The fish did not wait. In fact they split the 
previous Saturday after a wind storm. Sure there
was sporadic action, but the only fish of note
were being caught from boats - deep. We cast our 
flies for 2 hours on the wrong side of tide, then
my friends outvoted me to charter a boat. We left
Menemsha noonish on the Tomahawk insearch of the
big ones. Rex & Peter were propped up aft holding
wire rigs with trolled tube lures. I sat up front
with my fly rod, looking for something to cast to
and watching the surfers. Captain Buddy (it's true!)
was marking a lot of fish on the bottom, some looked
big and within 20 minutes Rex hooked up. His rod was
like a phone pole, but still it bent and line peeled
off and soon he had a 53 lb. striper in the boat. I
looked at his fish, looked at my fly rod, then took
the conventional rig from him. It was a long and
somewhat boring 2 hours until I boated a 41" striper,
but I hate trolling anyways. Still it was a fish. Peter
got a 12 lb. blue on the way in. That was pretty much
it. We marked a lot of fish down there, but they weren't
too active. 
    Like the last Cape Cod tale - it was much better than 
going to work ! But if I were to go again I'd stay at
least a week. Giving yourself a single tide to find fly
rod targets is really a low percentage shot. Still it 
appeared that there were a lot of fish down deep 25-55'.
Most fish coming in that week were stripers, and most of
them were big. All this action took place off of
Squibnocket (sp?) Beach, a few hunderd yards out. Good
weather may start things moving again.
From: tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Destination Destin, Florida (Help)
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:38:26 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Oct7.083922.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> jlautr01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>As the subject line stated I am on my way to Destin Florida.  I will be there
>from 17 October thru the 23rd of October.  Having never fished in the salt I am
>looking for advice.  I have been told there will be good fishing from the
>piers/jetties and bay this time of year.  As my wife and three  small childern
>will be accompanying me, I plan to do most of my fishing at night from the
>piers and jetties.  Is this a good time of the year to night fish, what speices
>can I plan on being there, what are the recommanded baits and tackle?

I go to Destin once a year but only fish on the surf.  Great Pompono, and
there is no need to even get wet.  Just get a sand flea net and put those
little critters on your hooks and wham, Pompono for dinner.  I still think
Pompono is one of the best tasting fish in the sea.

======================================================
 Teddy Kalivoda  ------------> tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu 
   University of GA Computing & Network Services       
     Inst.of Higher Education, UGA, Athens, Georgia               
=====================================================                                                                          
	"The sleep of reason gives rise to monsters"
				        (Goya, Caprichos)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: kevin@cadzook.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Kevin.Dailey)
Subject: Pictures of Largemouth Bass
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 92 12:40:24 GMT


	Does anyone have any GIF or JPEG files containing pictures of Large-
	mouth Bass??  I am using MS-Windows and would like to have GIF's or
	JPEG's to convert to Windows Bitmap files for a Desktop Screen Back-
	ground!  If you have some please e-mail them to me!


							Thanks,

							Kevin Dailey


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 Phone: 803-791-6432 | 3325 Platt Springs Road, West Columbia, SC 29170
   Fax: 803-739-7317 | E-mail: Kevin.Dailey@ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM 
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From: chip@rrc.chevron.com (Chip Parham)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Animal Activists
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:05:38 GMT
Reply-To: chip@rrc.chevron.com
Organization: Chevron, Richmond, California

Enough is enough !  What does all this have to do with fishing.
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Rod Building
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:18:56 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Oct8.013254.15482@coe.montana.edu> sandy@cs.montana.edu (Colin "Sandy" Pittendrigh) writes:
|	Are fly tying recipes fair game on rec.outdoors.
|fishing? I've enjoyed the current How-To-Do-It rod making
|stuff that's appeared recently. But I'd like to see more
|fly tying AND LUREMAKING stuff too. 

There's a number of people here that tie their own flies.  Unfortunately
there isn't enough people to form a subgroup of rec.outdoors.fishing but
fortunately not enough people to generate enough flytying articles to 
annoy people that aren't interested.

I don't think that most people would mind occasional patterns posted here
as long as the subject line indicated what the content was.  What I'd *really*
like to see is an ftp site that had an archive of fly tying patterns.

Just a comment on the grasshopper pattern.  Wouldn't it also be possible
to thread the foam onto the hook so that the step of using the needle could
be removed?
-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing)
Subject: Re: Waders Repair
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:47:50 GMT

In article <14947@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <Oct07.175238.11780@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna) writes:
>>My trusty Red Ball light-weight (coated nylon?) waders have finally
>>split a seam, after several years use.  The split is only about half
>>an inch.  Anybody know how to fix this?  I thought of just gluing
>>it with the glue they supplied with the waders for applying patches,
>>but that doesn't seem likely to hold.
> 
>I've heard that "Shoe Goo"[tm] is supposed to work well for these kind of
>waders.

It does, but since he's talking about a seam, I don't think Shoe Goo
alone is going to cut it. Innertube repair kits seem to work pretty
well for seams...



-- 
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DOWNING ASSOCIATES, INC.
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Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: mrein3@CFSMO.Honeywell.COM (Matt Rein #3)
Subject: Lake turnover
To: rec.outdoors.fishing
Posted-Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 16: 32:35 cdt
Organization: Honeywell Systems & Research Center
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:32:35 GMT
Received-Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 16: 32:47 CDT

> 
> Would anyone care to explain the concept of lake turnover and how it affects
> fish?  My basic understanding is that the surface temperature of a lake gets
> colder than the temperature at the bottom of the lake; the warmer water then
> rises, hence turnover.  But why don't the fish bite during turnover - all
> I've heard is that "it makes the fish sick"?  How long after turnover before
> the fishing picks up?  Does turnover only occur in deeper (30+ ft) lakes, or
> doesn't the lake depth matter?  Do all lakes in a specific area turnover about
> the same time?
> 
> Thanks for your patience with these questions...
> 

     Turnover occurs only in lakes that stratify.  The surface water cools,
sinks and mixes in with the other water layers.  The oxygen is pretty much
the same everywhere so you gotta look around for fish.  They could be
deep (below the now non-existant thermocline) or shallow.

     Shallow lakes that don't stratify don't turnover in the fall.  Spend
your time there while the other lakes in your area are turning over.

     The time a lake goes through turnover depends on the temperature
of the lake.  If the surface temp on the stratified lakes in your area
is about the same, they will turnover at about the same time.

--
- Matt Rein
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Fishing Store in San Jose/SF Info Wanted
Keywords: info tackle
Date: 12 Oct 92 21:08:35 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1aua8lINNmlk@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> Russell.Bentley@UK.Sun.COM writes:
>In article <BvnMpE.85z@animal.er.bell.ca>, rpark@stam.QE.Bell.CA (Richard Park) writes:
>|> I will be down for a Conference in San Jose in December and was 
>|> wondering if there are any resonably priced fishing/tackle store 
>|> around San Jose/SF area. I am looking for lures, reels, rods, and
>|> possibly rod blanks. Because I live in Canada, price for some of 
>|> these items are far fetched up here.
>|> 
>|> -- 
>|> Richard Park	

I just tried sending email to Richard but it bounced.  So here's what I'm
going to do:

If anyone in the bay area has information about fishing/tackle shops in
the bay area send it this way.  I'll compile a list of all shops and some
information about them.  I'd like to have addresses for as many as possible
but if you don't have it that's OK.  I can get addresses from phone books.
More importantly I'm looking for specific information about a fishing shop.
Does it specialize in fly fishing?  What's the best place for bass gear?
Rod blanks?  Where's the best place to get live bait?  I'll compile the
whole thing and repost it.


-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
+==========================================================================+
From: russell@ukcsd.uk.sun.com (Russell Bentley - Sun UK - Support Engineer)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Fishing Store in San Jose/SF Info Wanted
Date: 7 Oct 1992 09:22:29 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Federal, Milpitas, CA.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Russell.Bentley@UK.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: skid.uk.sun.com
Keywords: info tackle

In article <BvnMpE.85z@animal.er.bell.ca>, rpark@stam.QE.Bell.CA (Richard Park) writes:
|> I will be down for a Conference in San Jose in December and was 
|> wondering if there are any resonably priced fishing/tackle store 
|> around San Jose/SF area. I am looking for lures, reels, rods, and
|> possibly rod blanks. Because I live in Canada, price for some of 
|> these items are far fetched up here.
|> 
|> -- 
|> Richard Park	

...and they are in the UK too.  I posted a similar request last May and
Fred Templin responded with directions to a shop called Selective
Anglers, which sounded great but I have lost the address.  Fred, are
you out there ?

I looked in into the Orvis shop in SF (on the corner of Grant &
Sutter), and around the corner on Bush is Fly Fishing Outfitters.  Both
are nice stores.

Out in San Bruno (wow, I just realised how much I got around) is 'The
Ultimate Fly Shop' run by a nice guy called Frank Persasso.  Now this
is a REAL tackle store,  with a workshop out back.  It is at 494 San
Mateo Avenue.

Advice - price up what you want carefully before you go; I did this for
an Orvis Battenkill reel and found there was only three cents in it.


Have fun

Russ
Xref: sparky rec.outdoors.fishing:994 alt.fishing:3025
From: stripes@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg Butterfield)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing,alt.fishing
Subject: LCR 3D depth finders???
Date: 13 Oct 1992 15:37:18 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: stripes@eb5ts4.EBay.Sun.COM (Greg Butterfield)
NNTP-Posting-Host: eb5ts4.ebay.sun.com


Anglers,

 Any one out there have a Hummingbird LCR 3D depth/fish finder?
I'm have trouble getting correct readings, and hope some other owners
of the 3D model can give me some troubleshooting tips.

Problem:

         It finds fish every where!! (I wish). When I have it in 2D mode
the screen shows a million dots all over the screen at all different depths.
In 2D mode all it ever shows is the million dots and never a fish (big dot).
If the unit was operating correctly the dots would indicate bait fish but there
just aren't a million bait fish in every part of the lake.

 In 3D mode it finds a lot of fish also, but instead of dots it shows the fish 
symbol. Also in 3D mode It some times shows big triangles on the screen and
can't find the bottom. It say's 1 foot and then 99 feet and back to 1 foot
over and over again. 

 All these readings are while the boat is off OR running. I turned every thing
else off in the boat but the depth finder. I also tried putting the screen
in different locations. I tried rerouting the transducer cable to make sure
it wasn't by any other cables. The transducer is mounted on the back of the
boat about 1/8" below the hall.

Anyone else have similar problem or anyone else have a completely 
working 3D model?

Thanks in advance!


-Greg

Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
From: fishman@tracker.rtp.dg.com (Mike Fishman)
Subject: Re: shing Magazines
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 18:14:43 GMT
Organization: Data General Corp., Westboro, MA

In article <1687E7FC7.D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU> D1SAR@VM1.CC.UAKRON.EDU (Steve Rimar) writes:
>The 'In Fisherman' is one of the best you will find.
> 

I think it depends on what you intend to fish for. If it's walleye or muskie,
then the in fisherman is your mag. If it's bass, I think they fall short of the 
mark.. Also, their coverage of trout water is limited.

I have at one time or another subscribed otthe following:

Field and Stream - good general coverage - BEST IN SPRING AND SUMMER
Long Island Fisherman - Good local coverage, good articles about technique
In Fisherman - see above
BASSMASTER (you need to join BASS) - GREAT Bassfishing coverage - good
technique articles, good "new stuff" reports
Salt water Sportsman - Good OFFSHORE fishing articles

Tight Lines.....

						Mike Fishman
				(part-time engineer and full-time fisherman)
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From: tomg@hpcvusc (Thomas J. Gilg)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Animal Activists
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:03:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvusn.1992Oct8.180306.390
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

> The difference is that the cow lives a monotonous life of imprisonment
> while the deer lives a wild natural life.  Both are killed in the end.
> Now I ask you, which is more humane?

In the coming weeks, I'll start Salmon fishing in the Tillamook Oregon area.
The 2hr drive takes me past a Veal operation next to the Nestucca River
Bridge on highway 101.  Each time I drive by, I see calf heads peering out
of the very small white containers spread out among the fields.   The
containers resemble a large round utility tub turned upside down - its
just big enough to trap the calf and restrict movement, and has a square
hole in the side so the calf can stick his/her head out and feed on the
grain dropped in front of the container.

"which is more humane?" - good question.

Thomas Gilg
tomg@cv.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing