HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: Tom Jacobs <Tom_Jacobs@qms1.life.uiuc.edu>
Subject: How HE got into the dead
Reply-To: Tom_Jacobs@qms1.life.uiuc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:19:28 GMT

How HE got into the dead

Welcome Mark "MAH2033@tntech.bitnet" of Roanoke/Tennessee/Deer Creek!

Now this is what r.m.gd is all about, folks.   New people arriving with new
perspectives but shared interests, needs (love that FAQ!) and tunes.  For those
discouraged about the fate of r.m.gd, fear not.  

Think of it this way:  r.m.gd is a body with some old tissue it just had to
slough off.  It's good as new.  In fact, it's Always New. I regret the
departure of some very reliable, deadicated, and knowledgeable net.vets, but
there are only about 20,000 of us left here to carry on.  I think we'll manage.
 I sure hope so, because this is my favorite second family!

Tom J


Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jjh42385@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jonathan J. Hayes)
Subject: Space
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:31:53 GMT

How long has Drums/Space been a formal part the Dead's second set?
Someone was writing about their set wish list for Denver, and mentioned
wanting to hear FOTM out of Space.  It made me think of 1980(?)'s Dead Set
where that happens.  Albeit, the Space on Dead Set seems to pale in
comparison to what we now take for Space.  While the Dead have always
featured lengthy jams, when did Space -really- arrive, extravagant sounds and
all?  What is featured on Infared Roses is a far cry from Dead Set. . .

Just wondering. . .

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Curt.Hamilton@med.umich.edu (Curt Hamilton)
Subject: Re: curious
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 16:53:54 EST
Organization: University o' Michigan Radiology
Followup-To: rec.music.gdead

     Remember George Bush? He is also a big fan of secret societies, back
to his college days in Yale (Skull and Bones, or something like that) and
his older days, the CIA. That's all I gotta say about the Wheel. 
     ODC: Ever notice that Tom Constance (sp?) is credited with keyboards
on Live/Dead, but Ron McKerran (sp? again!) is credited as Pig Pen?
Strange.
 
curt
Curt.Hamilton@med.umich.edu
From: fish@clubzen.fidonet.org (Rob Fish)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re(member): inner peace  :)
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:41:58 GMT
Organization: Club Zen BBS - (Clan Zen Relay Network) Mountain View, CA

Thank you, ting.  Share those smiles!  Your post finds me 
remembering standing outside Las Cruces, NM in '79.  The moon was
full, the air was very very cold and sitting there near the Organ
Mountains, we saw a wonderful light phenomenon between a few back-
lighted clouds.  A moonbeam?  Who knows.  Maybe.
Thanks, ting for a well-received, most timely, virtual moonbeam...

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Rob Fish -> (fish@clubzen.fidonet.org)
From: bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Joe Hack is Back
Date: 6 Nov 1992 21:25:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack) says:

>
>In a previous article, bg377@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Wainwright) says:
>
>>Net cop hat on:
>
>Yeah, we noticed.  Rich, do you know how popular cops are on the gdead
>net?  I didn't think so.

Yeah, I'm the no drugs guy too, but you already knew that.

>>Lil' Joe Hack has decided to fan some flames with another of the infamous
>>Dale "The Porshe Guy" posts (for those whom already noticed this, sorry for
>>the re-repeat).
> 
>He he.  Your stupidity is really shining through now.  I love watching
>net newbies do dumb things.

Let me caveat it, a piss poor imitation of a DALE original.  It's funny
even for my net newbiness I recognize your writing style.  I guess the I'm
leaving and not coming back posts really don't mean much do they?   The net
is like a drug, even though you want out of the BS, you keep coming back. 
Hide behind you computer and blast people, but smile to their face at the
net gatherings.
>
>>Joe Hack is the chairman of the "Porshe Guy" Fan Club.  Show your
>>appreciation for his reposts by flooding his mail box with applications 
>>to the club.

OK, I'll tell you.  There is only one chairman and that is Chairman Too of
the Diamondbacks. At least he has the balls to stay on the net.

> 
>OK, I'll tell you.  Dale did not write the article I posted.  It may have
>been a close friend, but not Dale.  Sorry to ruin your whole day.

I need a good laugh once in a while.  Funny you tell the readers that they
are techno dweebs, but we really know who the dweebs are, don't we Joe?

>>Netcop hat off.
>
>It ain't that easy Mr. Whineright.  Once a net-cop, always a net-cop.
>You are labelled for life.

Yeah, maybe you can blackball me too, or have you already done that?  It's
kind of hard for me to defend myself when I don't have a chance to, isn't it? 

>
>I think we may have another net-censor wannabe here too.
>

I didn't say squat about censorship.

FOAD
-- 
*************************************************************************
*   Rich Wainwright               All my politically incorrect posts    *
*   BG377@cleveland.freenet.edu   are forgeries written by someone else * 
************************************************************************* 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Beware the Star-bellied sneetches
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 20:53:19 GMT

You're a star bellied sneetch
You suck like a leech
You want everyone to act like you

Oops, sorry. I meant to post that to alt.music.hardcore.

Don't lend your hand to raise no flag atop no ship of fools.

Your eyes tell more than you mean them to.

I could go on, but what's the point?

Bill

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: Re: Box of Rain: Who's the high voice?
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: rec
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 92 01:11:35 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.121928.15787@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> zi5j@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
>Hey folks-
>	I was just listening to American Beauty via headphones while mounting
>ants (yup, mounting ants) this morning and I noticed an extremely high voice

Oh my God! This is exactly the kind of sick behavior that our
(sniff) soon to be ex-VP is talking about when he calls for
a return to family values. But just out of curiosity, how was it? :-)

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Phosphor dots, eh?
From: Joe Doheny <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 07:08:48 EST
 <BxKIs5.1rL@well.sf.ca.us><92316.161245MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com><1992Nov11.220735.7955@sunspot.noao.edu>
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <1992Nov11.220735.7955@sunspot.noao.edu>, brown@sunspot.noao.edu
(Todd Brown) says:
>
>To think? What to think there aren't real people behind those phosphor
>dots, to think there aren't is not what I would want to be taught,
>Nope, sorry Joe, David is right the connections made by real people is
>the treasure here, strangers shaking strangers hands in a virtual
>sense, mind blowing concept.

I agree with that too Todd :-).  I think, that Mr Hack was trying to make
YOU say that though.  Trying to make you remember what is going on here.  He
offered up some stuff that was far from what YOU believe in.  And he got us
to get OFF AUTO-PILOT, and start thinking and come out and say stuff like.
"Hey, MAH76X@ROHVM1 shows signs of life."  I caught MST3K over the weekend,
(Anybody else)?  And the one fellow, can't remember his name, said to Frank
Push the button Frank.  Frank said I am the button :-).

Maybe we can LEARN from our Joe Hack experience.  Maybe we can make ourselves
better from it?  If we don't, we've just wasted all our time.

Joe Doheny
From: belknap@nest.enet.dec.com (Chris Belknap  -- DEC Head)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Backstage Pass -- Mass Area availablity?
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:28:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: nntpd.1992Nov10.154152.16328
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


Does anyone know of any stores in the Mass/NH area that sell the
Backstage Pass video?  Please post or send mail.

Thanks in advance.

Chris Belknap belknap@ics.dec.com
-- or --      ...!decwrl!ics.dec.com!belknap
-- or --      belknap%ics.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: louray@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Panayiotakis)
Subject: Re: GD hour in D.C.
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:09:32 GMT

I got a reply from Gans about that and he said nothing about raising the price ro anything of that sort.  He mailed me that they discontinued it with out any explananiton.

However, the same thing had happened in Miami some time ago and they brought it back within a week.  So get those calls  and letters in DC101 (sorry..don't have the address yet).  Also, why not send letters to WCXR just in case DC101 doesn't bring it back?

So all you deadheads around DC send letters or call DC101 to re-instated the    Hour.
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: those bears are at it again
Date: 13 Nov 1992 12:38:26 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

FORWARDED FUNNY, for your consideration ...

Associated Press

Berkeley, CA: A University of California student who regularly comes to
school naked will have to dress for class under a new campus rule.

Andrew Martinez has been arrested for nudity three times, but courts
dismissed the charges because his behavior did not qualify as "lewd and
lascivious" under California law.

Martinez says he bares all to protest society's insistence that people wear
clothes.

Chancellor Chang-Lin Tien issued an edict on Wednesday banning public
nudity, sexually offensive conduct and indecent exposure at the university.

The new rule does not cary the force of law, but it will allow police to ask
people caught naked to leave campus, said Lt. Bill Foley of the campus
police. If they refuse to leave, they can be arrested for trespassing.

"The mission of the university is to teach," said spokesman Bob Sanders.
"Anything that is disruptive to that can't be tolerated."
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Hall of Fame
Date: 12 Nov 1992 15:08:08 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1duku0INNcvs@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack) writes:
>
>In a previous article, mattb@ctron.com (Matthew E. Brown) says:
>
>>On a happier note, did you see that Deadhead extraordinaire Bill Walton
>>was nominated for membership in the Basketball Hall of Fame?
>>
>>He would certainly be a shoe-in for the Deadhead Hall of Fame, if one
>>existed.
>>
>>If not, should we create one? Any nominations?
>
>This one is no contest....
>
>1. Joe Hack - supreme net-god.
>2. Bill Moore - vice net-god.
>3. Barb Lewis - net goddess.
>4. Lara - net phony.

   well, i never thought i'd like this guy, but he's done me a
favor: now i don't have to worry about falling off the pedestal when
i twirl!

  the goddess is dead! long live the goddess!!



>
>
From: silverman@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: What would you do for Dead Tix?
Date: 6 Nov 92 17:43:02 -0500
Distribution: world
Organization: Georgetown University

I absolutely love the Dead !
Anyone else out there?
Tell me what you would do for Dead Tix.
What is the craziest thing you've ever done to get tickets?
Post us an answer.
This could be interesting.

			Denny


*************************************************************************

		Denny Silverman
		Georgetown University MBA '93


		Silverman@GUVAX.GEORGETOWN.EDU

        "The bottle was dusty, but the liquor was clean!"
**************************************************************************
From: lb04@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Laura Bassi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: 'Won't Get Fooled Again' and other assorted ramblings
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:51:43 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1drmhiINNfql@morrow.stanford.edu>, EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lar
a) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.164623.6669@EE.Stanford.EDU>,
>bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore) writes:
>>In article <184220@pyramid.pyramid.com> glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert)
writes:
>>>There have been some truly marvelous postings of late, folks, and those in
>>>the Wheel who stiil dip their toes in these waters have some idea of what
>>>the others have been missing out on.  The Cassady - Kerouac pieces are
>>>truly priceless, and well worth wading through whatever chaff exists in the
>>>mind of the reader.  Bill Moore is an exceptionally funny individual, Joe
>>>Hack actually keyed in well on the satire he claims to be portraying, eagle
>>>is the best thing for stream of consciousness since Dylan (Thomas, that is),
>>>Lara deserves net.goddess status for her kindness, Gail Edwards provides
>>>us with very charming and wonderful anecdotes on her life and prods many to
>>>share theirs.  There are many, many others, so don't feel slighted if
>>>you're not mentioned.
>>
>>Thanks George, but damn, that makes me self-conscious! :-)
>>And let's not forget the always pleasant and good natured
>>George Lambert. A few other names which come to my mind are
>>George Lambert, among many others. Joe D., Laura B., Barb L.,
>>the list goes on... virtual friends are different than real
>>friends, but virtual friends are real in a way. The net has almost
>>always been flourishing for those of us who can pick out what we want
>>to read and get into. To this day.
>>
>>That's all for now,
>>Bill
>  ... i'm still blushing, too; and it is with the help and support
>of friends here on the .net. that the days go by so smoothly.
>perhaps some of us do take it too seriously, but it's so powerful to
>be tied into so many other peoples' universes and perceptions.
>let me restate that: some of us take r.m.gd too seriously, but
>one can never take friendships too seriously ...  and bill, you
>already mentioned two of my favorite people, laura bassi and barb
>lewis (barb, LOVE those train horns on RFK, and  i'm sitting here
>staring at "for lara, ken kesey" thanks to U!  :):):); also people
>guaranteed always to delight and amaze me are todd brown and tom
>"amorphous middle name" jacobs,
>
>   ...  but my .net.friends are too numerous to mention
>   ...  i love you all
>
>lara
>      @@
>    @ || @
>  @ \@||@/ @
>   \ \||/ /
>     ||||
>
>it must have been the roses ...
>
Talk about blushing,.,.humble thanks Bill and Lara...
RIGHT BACK AT YA
peace & love,
laura
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: root@evergreen.com
Subject: Live/Dead Net
Reply-To: root@evergreen.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:35:34 GMT

Are GD soundbites distributed over the net?  I keep reading
that data compression is getting better all the time.  How
about Apple's QuickTime?
From: jberger@novell.com (John Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: What A WOnderful WOrld (what a wonderful memory)
Date: 10 Nov 92 18:36:20 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <1992Nov10.032537.911@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com> writes:
>From: Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com>
>Subject: What A WOnderful WOrld
>
>Louis Armstrong had a hit with this song in 1968.
>
One of my favorite moments at a show (this was the last JGB show at 
Shoreline in July '92) was this song.  It was my version of a bachelor 
party, as I was getting married the next weekend.  It was an afternoon show, 
and, since the stage faces west, the band was in the shade for almost the 
whole show.  

I was taking pictures throughout the show, and at various times went down 
the aisle to get closer.  The security first security guard would allow me 
to go down closer for a few minutes of pictures, but the second one always 
stopped me (about 12 rows from the front).  I always asked permission, 
said "thanks" as I returned, and acknowledged them as human beings, not as 
"aisle nazis".

By the time they got to this song as an encore, the sun was on the stage, 
and the singers' red dresses looked like they were on fire (no, Jerry wasn't 
wearing one, but he was sweating as if he was too close to the fire).  When 
Jerry started with "I see fields of green, red roses, too...", an incredibly 
warm, wonderful feeling swept over me.  I wanted to savor this moment 
completely!  

I went down for a few more pictures, and this time the second guard waved me 
on down!  As I knelt in the aisle, I noticed that the very front row was 
only two seats wide (at the apex of a pie-shaped section), and they were 
both empty!  I immediately slipped into one of them, and enjoyed a personal 
rendition of the rest of this song, front row on the Jerry side, on a warm 
sunny day.  I felt as if he knew that I was starting a new phase of life, 
and he was telling me "What a wonderful world".  

It's one of those memories that I'll always cherish, and it sure helped me 
through the no-show days of the past few months.  (I even got a few chills 
as I flashed back on the show while writing this).

Think peace, and drive friendly.
John
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Subject: too much playin' - easy wind?
Reply-To: IWS%ssmic@cdfq.ssd.ray.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 07:00:19 GMT

| From: brown@sunspot.noao.edu

| >or whatever.  Unlikely to happen, but it would be great to
| >see them try something new and different in these respects.

| Easy Wind, Easy Wind, Easy Wind, Easy Wind, Easy Wind, Easy Wind:-)
	
As much as I like the version on the album, I don't think I have yet
heard a good live version of "Easy Wind" - I'm talking GOOD, as in
leaves the album version way behind...  in this case, I think the
album version is better.
From: JBOWER@acc.haverford.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re:  FOR BEGINNING TAPERS ONLY!
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:59:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov13.005938.6028
Reply-To: JBOWER@acc.haverford.edu
Organization: The Internet

First off, I want to say thank you to all the beginners who have already 
to my original offer--not even I expected such a quick response!  I am writing
back to say that the offer will be officially *closed* on midnight tomorrow, 
Friday the 13th.  The reason for this is that there are not many tapes left to
be gotten, and I don't want to have to reject tons of people who might write
after everything is gone.  Anyway, if you write soon, there are still a few
tapes left, so give it your best shot.  Those who will be getting tapes, I will
work out more instructions and send them to you sometime MON or TUES.

Later,
jb
From: eds@po.CWRU.Edu (Ethan D. Siegel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Bound to cover just a little more ground
Date: 12 Nov 1992 16:30:53 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


My thoughts on the wheel situation:

1) I don't necessarily agree with forming a secret group like
   that, but I can definitely see the merits.  There is so much
   negative stuff on the net and so much depersonalization, that
   its nice to be able to have a place where you know the people
   a little better.  I don't know how the wheel worked out,
   but it seems to be a bad attempt at a very good idea.  Even
   on the net, we establish relationships with people and keep
   them up through regular dialogue/trading.  I think the wheel
   was just an attempt to go one step further along these lines.

2) I guess what sits least well with me is the secrecy part of
   the organization.  There doesn't seem to be a net.attitude
   in finding some people inelligible to be a part of something
   that you find enjoyable.  A better way would be to invite
   people with whom you have established something good on the
   net to join the "inner circle".  Again, maybe just a bad
   execution of a good basic idea.

Please, easy on the flames.  I am not a part of the wheel, didn't
know of its existence, but I see past the bad execution to what
may have driven the idea and see a possible good intention.

Ethan

-- 
---------------------------------><------------------------------
Ethan Siegel                      Try to see what's going down
Case Western Reserve U.           Maybe read between the lines...
---------------------------------<>------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: dudasj@sage4b.its.rpi.edu (Joel Schostok Dudas)
Subject: oh, woe is me...
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: internet
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:28:47 GMT

What is becoming of the net????
1) People complain about others typing behind their backs
and mental instability
2) Neil Diamond jokes get a little carried away,
only to be outdone by the Diamondback critics
3) Joe Hack
4) the amount of attention he has gotten (remember "Fuck You All")
 
and yet, we are all happy
because Jerry is healthy and
shows are coming!

By the way, not to be premature and start ugly
rumors that will tempt some people too early, but
us folx who don't live in the Rockies are wondering,
even though nobody's posted about it, we are all 
wondering the same thing in the back of our minds....

Any Spring tour guesses???????

here's hoping they do a 40-show stand at the 
Knickerbocker Arena :-)

Joe "really jonesin' for lots of shows" D.
dudasj@rpi.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Jeff Lester <lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com>
Subject: Re: 10-27-91 (Analog) Tree Announcement
Reply-To: lester@gandalf.etdesg.trw.com
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 00:07:24 GMT

|I don't have the DATs yet, so I can't tell you where the breaks are yet, nor
|can I tell you what length tapes this tree will require. This information will
|follow in a posting REAL SOON NOW. Just to let you know, the DATs are 1 90min
|and 1 120min, so we're talking around three hours of music here, more or
|(actually) less.

Even for those who don't like it, putting the start of the second set at the 
end of the first set tape probably makes sense for this show. Unless everybody 
uses metal 110s the second set will have a cut, as the pre-drums portion 
(that Mona jams forever!) goes for about 55 minutes.

-Jeff Lester
From: ADIDAS@wittenberg.edu (Matthew Tudor)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: (none)
Date: 5 Nov 92 19:07:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov5.190708.783
Reply-To: ADIDAS@wittenberg.edu
Organization: The Internet

SUB LISTNAME ADIDAS
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead,rec.audio
From: jamie@access.digex.com (James Treworgy)
Subject: Re: good, reasonable priced cassette decks..
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 17:27:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov03.015018.0905681@locus.com> yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz) writes:
>
>I recommend you buy the Nakamichi and borrow a friend's portable
>walkman for tape duping.  Or buy your own cheap walkman like thing.
>
>The Nak decision is good for the long haul.

Yeah but have you ever played a walkman through a real stereo (i.e. not thru
headphones)?   They sound like shit.  Even relatively good ones.  Please
don't ever copy a tape with a walkman.  An inexpensive ($150-$200)
tape deck is a lot closer to a Nakamichi than a walkman is to an
inexpensive tape deck.
-- 
James A. Treworgy
jamie@access.digex.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: bill@isl.Stanford.EDU (Bill Moore)
Subject: re: Better DEAD than a DEADHEAD
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 92 23:04:34 GMT


Oh, no!

Bill
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: Ken Kaufman <kaufman@aic.gmu.edu>
Subject: Ugly DiamondBack Rumor
Reply-To: kaufman@aic.gmu.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:36:44 GMT

A well-informed source tells me that there is a secret mailing list for
true followers of Mr. Diamond.  It's called the wneil.
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead