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From: mori@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Akira Mori)
Subject: Re: Another So Far Ignored Band.....
Organization: Department of Infomation Science, Kyoto University, Japan
	<JEFFK.92Nov16181020@dosXX.med.utah.edu>
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:38:26 GMT

Yes. Here is one BIG fan of The Band in Japan.

I totally agree that the Band is the best of the best rock-n-roll
band. I strongly recommend all you guys out there to check out the
movie "The Last Waltz". The highlight is "The Weight" played with
The Staples Singers. Also, the guitar battle with Eric Clapton is
cool, where Robbie actually won! (No flame please, Clapton fans)
My favorite album is "Moondog Matinee". It's not their best album,
but good.

By the way, I 'm curious about the chords to The Weight.
I believe it's something like this.

In article <JEFFK.92Nov16181020@dosXX.med.utah.edu> jeffk@dosXX.med.utah.edu
(Jeff Knell) writes:

Verse 2:
             A              C#m
   >	     I picked up my bags 
             D                           A
   >	     went lookin' for a place to hide
             A          C#m
   >	     when I saw Carmen and the Devil
             D              A
   >	     walkin side by side
             A           C#m          D 
   >	     I said "hey Carmen, come on
                          A
   >	     let's go downtown"
             A         C#m
   >	     She said "I gotta go,
                    D                A  
   >	     but my friend can stick around"
             A                 F#m
             Take the load off Fanny.
             A                 F#m
             Take the load for free.
             A                 F#m
             Take the load off Fanny.
             A                 C#m          D        A
             And, and, and you put the load right on me.

Can someone correct me?  I know there is the newsgroup for tab
music, but I'm not so sure.
--
Akira Mori
Information Science
Kyoto University
Japan
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
From: danaf@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: U2?
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 03:51:22 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.085508.4017@wkuvx1.bitnet>, curtiws@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
|> 
|> I know they dont follow our standing rule for the definition of
|> classic rock but u2 is a great band. also i was wondering if early
|> eightys stuff like Dire Straits couold be considered worthwile of
|> discussion,maybe even the police?

I've always AGREED with the classic rock stations' definition of "classic"
 - or, as K-ROCK puts it, "It doesn't have to be old to be classic". 

Dire Straits definitely hit this category, as do the Police and U2. PLUS, new
songs from old faces (Rod Stewart, Elton John, Stones, Styx, etc...) fit
*MY* definition of "classics".

Nobody's gonna argue with Pete Fornitale, are you????

|> Scott.

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From: curtiws@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: U2?
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:55:08 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Nov17.014608.17525@husc3.harvard.edu>, jvessey@husc11.harvard.edu (Jonathan Vessey) writes:
> Yes, I know. U2 really doesn't fall into the category of classic rock (unless
> you're using the definition that most of the "classic" stations on the radio
> do), but this seemed like the best place to ask the question:
> Is there anywhere on the net where discussions of the group take place? I 
> know there is, for example, an alt.fan.music.rush (or something close to that)
> but I've never seen a specific U2 group. Where are they typically discussed?
> 
> Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I'm also a big classic rock
> fan, so I'll be popping up here from time to time, too, I'm sure.
> 
> Jon 
> -- 
> 						Jon Vessey
>                                                 jvessey@husc.harvard.edu



I know they dont follow our standing rule for the definition of
classic rock but u2 is a great band. also i was wondering if early
eightys stuff like Dire Straits couold be considered worthwile of
discussion,maybe even the police?


Scott.
From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: rock-debate revisted: Beatles founders of Metal???
Date: 18 Nov 1992 22:12:45 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

When I wrote a few days ago, a couple of people responded saying that
the Beatles, and not Sabbath or Zeppelin, were the originators of
heavy metal.  While the Beatles might have created some of the
techniques that became big in metal, they certainly did not form
their style around a sound definitive of heavy metal.  I've heard ofri
people tracing metal far back to an early Jeff Beck album of '62 or so,t
but this sort of thing is a real stretch.  If you really forced me to
go further back than Sab or Zep, I'd probably have to go with Hendrix
or maybe Iron Butterfly. . .  But once again, their sound had elements
of metal, but it was not really the full-blown item  (sort of like
comparing a bicycle to a car and saying that the inventor of the former
also can be credited with creating the latter).  Of course, it's more
subjective than that, but I still think one has to start with Sab
or Zep (maybe Purple).  Unfortunately, Sabbath's name is tarnished
because they've made the mistake of not dying while they were at their
best, so maybe that's why people won't give them their due.
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: loose bruce
From: klacher@perdita.gac.edu (Kimberly A Lacher)
Date: 19 Nov 92 20:27:31 -0600

In article <1992Nov18.163650.16153@b8.b8.ingr.com>  writes:
> In article <1992Nov17.180311.1@csusb>, jimbo@csusb writes:
> > Just discovered this new group and I must say I'm glad
> > that its here!  Anaway, I have a little difficulty
> > selecting just 1 group as the all time best.  My 3
> > personnal faves are Cream, Zep and the Band.  If I had
> > to choose just one I would barely give the edge to Zep,
> > mainly because they grew with each album.  The band
> > improved its artistry and range without losing their
> > drive which makes them the best.
> > 
> > Other candidates I may nominate would be Steppenwolf,
> > Beatles and Traffic.
> > 
> > Just my two cents worth.  
> > 
> > Tony Ardelean
> > CalState University, San Bernardino
> > 
> > My opinions are my own and have no basis in reality.
> 
> 
> **  Tony,
> 
>        It sure is great to hear from someone in the San Bernardino area.
>     Are you from this area? I grew up there,near the foothills, 53rd St.
>     Graduated from Cajon High 1972, SB Valley '75-'76. It was quite a 
>     blast being out there in the 60's & 70's, lots of great music and  
many
>     good places to see great concerts.
>        Have you heard of Swing Auditorium? Man I've seen legends at that
>     place! Let me give you a quick run down;
> 
>        Eric Burdon & The Animals  --  1968
>        Jimi Hendrix w/ Vanilla Fudge  -- 1969
>        Led Zep w/ Jethro Tull    -- 1970
>        Jefferson Airplane       -- 1970
>        Cream                    -- 1970
>        Jethro Tull w/ It's A Beautiful Day  --1971
>        Jimi Hendrix              -- 1971
>        Ten Years After           -- 1971
>        Rod Stewart & Faces       -- 1972
>        Greatful Dead             -- 1975
>        Johnny & Edgar Winter     -- 1976
> 
>     Just to name a few, so where are the hot spots these days? I have  
been 
>     away since '78, also spent some time in San Diego. i've been out  
here
>     in the Atlanta area since '80, also a great place for music!
>        I'm into the blues quite a bit these days, would really like to  
hear
>     back from you. I'm new on the net here so you'll just have to post  
me.
>     Please let me know what's goin' down in the homeland.
> 
>                                       "Loose Bruce"




Hey bruce------You have seen some awesome bands I would love to talk to  
you sometime!!!!!

klacher@nic.gac.edu
 ------Kim---------
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Thoughts on Doors and Beatles
From: jimbo@csusb
Date: 19 Nov 92 21:51:41 PST
Organization: California State University, San Bernardino
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadrbha

Just to add my 2 cents worth to the Doors...

I used to go into L.A. on the weekends to see the
Doors live when they were just the house band for
the Whiskey-A-Go-Go(actually, it's Hollyweird, not
L.A).  Sure this was late 1966 but we knew Morrison and
company were something special.  And those of us who
knew were RIGHT!!!  Insert smug smiley :-)   After
a quarter of a century I still find the Doors music to
be hard driving rock and roll at its finest.  L.A Woman
has got to be one of the best known sigs of any group.
True, not every song is golden;  but what group can claim
that.  Even the greatest will put out a klunker.

Probably the group most responsible for the direction and
impact of rock and roll is the Beatles.  Collectively they
did more new things to the music than anyone in R&R history.
Their influenece is still being felt.  Although individualy
they have not come close to the greatness they displayed
together(my own opinion), the way they developed from their
initial album to Sgt. Pepper is mind blowing and awesome!
Anyone old enough to remember back to the 60's will surely
recognize that each "new" Rolling Stone album between 1965 and 
1967 was a parody of the Beatles latest release.  To deny or
reject the Doors or Beatles out of hand is to deny themself
a lot of listening pleasure.  The British influence on american
music can not be understated.  Nor can the American influence on
British Rock be denied.  After all it was people like Chuck Berry,
Little Richard, Jerry Lee Lewis and countless black Blues artists
that heavily influenced the British sound. 

I know I have digressed a bit, but I do tend to ramble sometime.
Anyway, the Beatles and The Doors belong in any top 10 list.

Tony Ardelean
Cal State University, San Bernardino


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
From: mdl@cypress.com (Matt Landrum)
Subject: Re: The Best, The Worst, and Subjectivity
Organization: Cypress Semiconductor Southeast Design Center
	<1992Nov19.011136.19617@dg-rtp.dg.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:08:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.011136.19617@dg-rtp.dg.com> cochran@spam.rtp.dg.com (A. Jing Hippy) writes:

   |No argument here.  "One" and "Old Fashioned Love Song" are two of my favorites. 
   |However, I'm trying to forget about "Joy to the World."

   I'll agree with you there. Not one of Mr. Axton's better pieces of work.

Hoyt hated that version (so it's been said).  I don't know what he thought
of Never Been To Spain

If we're talking Three Dog Night (if you don't like them you can stop reading
now)

Momma Told Me Not To Come (Randy Newman)
Try a Little Tenderness (Otis Redding)
Brickyard Blues (?)

are pretty good tunes
--


Matt Landrum                    | mdl@cypress.com
Cypress Southeast Design Center | office: (601) 324-4609, FAX - 4614
1 Research Blvd, Suite 200      | "There's a fine line between 
Starkville, MS  39759           |  stupid and clever" -- Spinal Tap
From: cokin@aludra.usc.edu (Darren Cokin)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: Firstpost Challenge
Date: 16 Nov 1992 00:59:51 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

In article <4396@copper.Denver.Colorado.EDU> aaldoubo@copper.denver.colorado.edu (Shaqeeqa) writes:

>What is considered a classic?

>What about the rock & roll from the mid 50's to the early 60's -
>is that going to be discussed or considered to be classic?

No, very little music from that era is considered classic rock.  That's what we
call "Oldies."

The radio station I listen to is KLSX ("the station that spells classics!")
They play music mostly from the mid 60's to mid 80's (with exceptions of
course).  The commercials right now have clips from Zepplin, Stones, and the
Beatles (post Revolver/Sgt. Pepper).  That gives you an idea what is meant by
classic rock.

KLSX is the best station I have ever heard BTW.


                                                          Darren
From: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: Deep Purple
Date: 19 Nov 1992 16:11:10 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5ea8manchest@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

AIn article <1992Nov18.213803.2555@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>, Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn) writes:
>Well, I've definitely seen alot of my favorite "best" classic rock
>bands listed: Zep, Beatles, The Who, Floyd, etc...but what?...no
>mention of Deep Purple?  Come on, you guys..."Smoke On The Water" may
>have got played into the ground, but these guys have to be in alot of
>peoples top ten classic bands...after all, "Machine Head" alone had not
>only "SotW", but "Space Truckin'", "Lazy", & "Highway Star"..."My Woman
>From To-kay-o" is classic as is "Hush".  Although later versions of DP
>were cool (David Coverdale etal), my favorite line-up was Ian Gillan,
>Ritchie Blackmore, John Lord, Roger Glover and Ian Paice.  This line-up
>was reborn on "Perfect Strangers", IMHO a pretty damn good album. One
>early album they did which is excellent but relatively unknown to many
>classic rock fans is Deep Purple In Rock...the boys really kick ass on
>"Speed King" and Ian Gillan's vocals on "Child In Time" are nothing
>short of spectacular!  Any other Purple fans out there (and I don't
>mean the Vikings)?
>
>Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Dartmouth-Hitchcock                  "Pulu-see-ba-goomba" -- Gilligan 
>Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Lebanon, New Hampshire  03756        :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)

ACTUALLY, MIKE, I mentioned Deep Purple back on about message 50 or so,
along with two other greats, Black Sabbath and Thin Lizzy.  As usual,
Thin Lizzy is being overlooked, for reasons beyond me.  Besides their better
known albums, they have an album called Remembering which impresses me
every time I listen to it; very experimental.  It has doses of rock-a-billy
influence, Spanish folk music, Irish folk music, early funk-metal, early
hard rock-metal, some psychedelic etc.  For 1973, this was quite an
achievement; its a double LP, by the way.  If anyone wants to discuss
Thin Lizzy, let me know.  I don't have all of their stuff, but I'd like
some opinions on what I have and haven't heard.  Thanks.

Eric Manchesterkl
From: curtiws@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: Steely Dan
Date: 19 Nov 92 08:14:15 CST
Distribution: world,local
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Nov18.231121.13277@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, fes9s@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Frank Erick Sellin) writes:
> Someone told me that at the STeely reunion (two or three years back??)
> when Becker walked in,  he walked up to Donald and punched him in the
> mouth.  Needless to say, if any reunion happened, as I take it they
> played live somewhere from earlier posts in this newsgroup, only half
> of Steely did it...
> 
> Unfortunately, I have been unable to validate Walter's punching
> Donald from any other source.  Anyone know about this??
> 

 HI,
    This is kind of of the subject but it reminds me of an interwiew i
saw with sting during a police rockumentery on mtv.When the reporter
asked him what was the final indicator that it was time to break
up(the band),Sting said "probably when stewart copeland broke my ribs"
i thought that was hilarious..

Scott.
From: sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
Subject: Re: Steely Dan
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:22:28 GMT
Reply-To: sununu@ece.arizona.edu (Arun Vaidyanath)
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona Dept. of Electrical and Computer Engineering

amie@clemson.clemson.edu writes:

I am a fan of Steely!! And you named my favorites, but can ANYONE out there
tell me what ever happened to these people? They were very private to begin 
with so I don't even know ANYTHING about them besides their music. Can anyone
fill me in?

Let me tell you what I know. The Danesque attitude is indeed secretive.
A band that never gave a live tour if they cld avoid it!! in fact they are
so much a studio band that there is believed to be a rare recording (live)
of the song "reeling in the years" which is reputedly the only existing
archive of live steely dan today. 
fagen did give some live performances a month or so ago at NY, Phila etc.
with Michael McDonald and others but Becker wasnt in it!! there is some 
knews though!! so hold on to your hats. a local classic rock station talks
of a possible reunion. Now, any major dude will tell you that it is a major
look forward to event!!!

Arun
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.classic
From: dmfriend@iastate.edu (shank s. shank)
Subject: Re: Unmentioned so far?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 00:51:54 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.212615.10896@Virginia.EDU> jam3s@Virginia.EDU ("Jeffrey Allan Miller") writes:
>What about the Eagles?
>	Steve Miller Band?
>	Electric Light Orchestra?
>	The Guess Who?
>	Bachman-Turner Overdrive?
>	Grand Funk?	
>	CCR?
>	The Kinks?
>
>
>Just a few groups I was surprised haven't been mentioned.
>
>There is more to classic rock than Zeppelin, Floyd, and their
>derivatives.
>
>Jeff

I think they are all awesome.  Just thought I'd let everyone know.

dave


-- 
Dave Friend                    
dmfriend@iastate.edu        
Iowa State University           
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: napier@cs.ucsd.edu (Jim Napier)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: D.Gibson (AAAARGH!!!!)
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:57:04 GMT
Organization: AMES Dept., UC San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: sierra.ucsd.edu


In article <1egh7uINNs22@mercury.kingston.ac.uk>, cs_d604@ceres (David Scutt) writes:
|> Anybody know of any Debbie Gibson mailing lists??????
|> 
|> --


rec.music.puberty?
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: shjohnso@plains.NoDak.edu (Shawn Johnson)
Subject: What ever happened to the Hooters?
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:17:50 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

   Anyone know what ever happened to the Hooters?  The last i saw
of them was about '88 (can't think of the album) Thanks for any info.


-shawn

 Staying up all night, we don't do that anymore.
				Sidewinders

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: evorst@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Ed Vorst)
Subject: Too Close For Comfort
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:48:33 GMT

	A "TOO CLOSE FOR COMFORT" is when two songs sound so much alike
that one must have been copied from the other. One famous example is "MY
SWEET LORD" by George Harrison, for which he was sued because it sounded
too much like "HE'S SO FINE" by the Chiffons or the Ronnettes or one of
those silly 3 female bands.
	Another example in my opinion Is "DRIVE" by REM which is TOO CLOSE
FOR COMFORT to"ROCK ON" by David Essex. The REM song even uses some of the
same lines.
	If anybody would like to comment, or add a few of their own
discoveries to this list, I would be interested to hear them all.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
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-------------------------------------------------------------------------
	( evorst@umanitoba.ccu.ca ) 
			- There's one more kid that'll never
			    go to school 
			  Never get to fall in love
			  Never get to be cool
					-Neil Young
					 Rockin' in the Free World
 

	
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: skipdaly@next10pg2.wam.umd.edu (Scott David Daly)
Subject: Indigo Girls tickets...HELP!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 00:08:39 GMT


Hello all!

	I DESPERATELY need tickets for tomorrow (Tuesday) night's Indigo  
Girl's show at GM Arts center!  The show is sold out...but I'd REALLY like  
to go!  Two tickets would be awesome...anyone got any extras...?



		Please email...


						Skip
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: weisbr@ipfr.bau-verm.uni-karlsruhe.de (Werner Weisbrich)
Subject: Re: Top 10 Bands of all time
Organization: IPF, University of Karlsruhe
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:19:11 GMT

My choice:

 1. Dire Straits
 2. Eric Clapton
 3. Genesis
 4. Pink Floyd
 5. Mike Oldfield
 6. Jethro Tull
 7. Chris Rea
 8. Santana
 9. Queen
10. Beatles


Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: stud7b43@bmerh925.bnr.ca (Mike Squance)
Subject: Re: lyrics request
Reply-To: newuser@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:13:39 GMT


In article <1992Nov18.030942.12079@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>,
msrt_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (monica shartle) writes:
|> I have been puzzling over this for many moons now.  It is only one 
|> line to a song, but it is something that I have been unable to place.
|> 
|> It goes something like this:
|> 
|> 'when ligts go down, I see no reason for you to cry...'
|> 
	'When lights go down...I see no reason...'
	'For you to cry...we've been through this before...'

	If thats what I think it is, its "Carrie" by Europe. I can't
	remember the name of the album, but its the same one with 
	"The Final Countdown"...the only album that was very successful
	in North America for Europe as far as I know.

|> I'm sorry but that's all that I have to go on.
|> 
	Thats all I needed :)
|> 
|> monica shartle
|> 
		 		
Michael Squance             |
  stud7b43@bnr.ca           |   "You gotta kick at the darkness
  msquance@sirius.UVic.ca   |    til it bleeds daylight"
                            |        - Bruce Cockburn
University of Victoria      |
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: etxpell@mega.ericsson.se (Pelle Arvinder)
Subject: Re: lyrics request
Reply-To: etxpell@mega.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:43:45 GMT

In article 24046@bmers145.bnr.ca, stud7b43@bmerh925.bnr.ca (Mike Squance) writes:
>
>	If thats what I think it is, its "Carrie" by Europe. I can't
>	remember the name of the album, but its the same one with 
>	"The Final Countdown"...the only album that was very successful
>	in North America for Europe as far as I know.
>
The album is called "The final countdown" too...
(I should know - I live in the same suburb of Stockholm as all the original 
members of Europe used to do, before Bahamas etc) :-)
>		 		
>Michael Squance             |
>  stud7b43@bnr.ca           |   "You gotta kick at the darkness
>  msquance@sirius.UVic.ca   |    til it bleeds daylight"
>                            |        - Bruce Cockburn
>University of Victoria      |

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