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From: rocker@desire.wright.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Indians broadcasts
Date: 4 Jan 93 09:05:05 EST
Organization:  Wright State University 

	I have a few questions about Cleveland Indians broadcasts...

	1. Tom Hamilton is now doing the OSU Buckeyes basketball tv games, will
he be back on the tribe radio network?

	2. Several years ago there was a Indians tv network which was picked up
by   WTTE 28 in Columbus.  Any possibilty of this being revived?

	3. Who should I write to to get a Dayton radio station to carry the
tribe games, WWWE? WKNR? WHK?  The Indians? Dayton stations?  Could someone
email me the appropiate address?

Thanx for any info.

rock hard
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: Jeff Russell????
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:29:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.140421.19289@europa.asd.contel.com> king@ssvax.gte.com (Larry King) writes:
>
>Russell was suppose to be coming to Boston this week for a physical
>evaluation.  The Red Sox are definitely interested in him.  If not him
>it will be Bullpen by Committee next year and that could be really
>interesting for this team.

There are worse things than bullpen by committee...  Melendez, Harris,
Bankhead, and Quantrill all are capable relievers.  And Ryan is being
touted as the closer of the future (is the future now?).

But who is going to *start* the games???  Clemens and Viola will each
start 30.  But can anybody else handle the job?  Who will the other
three starters be?  I'm betting on Darwin, Dopson, and Taylor starting
the season in the rotation.  But do any of them have the arm to last?

-Valentine
From: bz832@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Wesley R. Kemmerlin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Deion Sanders to give up football?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 21:51:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I saw this in the latest issue of Pro Football Weekly:

 "Don't be suprised if the Atlanta Braves soon make a pitch to
  sign Deion Sanders to a baseball-only contract during baseball
  season. The two-time defending National League champs are 
  willing to peddle outfielder Ron Gant for a relief pitcher and
  a minor-league prospect if they know left field will be manned
  by Sanders. The earlier they can sign Sanders, the sooner they
  can swing a deal."

I hope they will hold onto Gant since his production last season
was way down. After he has a more Gant-like season next year, 
would be a better time to peddle him. If they want to peddle
someone for a reliever, my nomination would be Brian Hunter.
Hunter would be perfect as a AL DH. I would not make any trades
for a reliever until we see how Wohlers, Mercker, and Stanton
perform early next year. 
-- 
WESLEY
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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Subject: Red Sox
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:41:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.160326.15610@europa.asd.contel.com> king@ssvax.gte.com (Larry King) writes:
>I look at some of the starters signed by other clubs and wonder why we
>couldn't have picked up one of them.  Bosio, Abbott, Stewart, Moore, and
>Key are some of the good starters that moved around.  Granted the Red
>Sox have a money problem but a starter could be used.  

The Red Sox have a money problem alright -- they have more dollars than
sense.

A team that pays what the Red Sox did for Andre Dawson does not have a
money problem.

Sports Illustrated claims that the Red Sox were the big winners at the
winter meetings, and that they could contend.  Ha.
-- 
ted frank                     | thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu 
standard disclaimers          | void where prohibited
the university of chicago law school, chicago, illinois 60637
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From: tedward@cs.cornell.edu (Edward [Ted] Fischer)
Subject: Re: Burks and related mediocies
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:17:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.014822.12142@midway.uchicago.edu> thf2@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>
>In other news, the Braves signed Pecota for something like two years, $1.4M.
>My guess is that they'll be disappointed unless Pendleton is injured.  This
>is the kind of signing that will suck up time from Blauser.

I would expect Blauser to play primarily at short, at least until
Chipper Jones arrives.  Perhaps Pecota will assist Lemke at second?

>Is Blauser really that bad?

I'd say he's adequate defensively...  I've seen worse.

Cheers,
-Valentine
From: kbos@carina.unm.edu (K. Mitchell Bose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Yet another all-star team
Date: 12 Jan 1993 02:26:03 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
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In article <1993Jan11.204415.103451@locus.com> aardvark@cygnus.la.locus.com (Warren Usui) writes:
>And now, the 1992 All-Scrabble teams! (Players whose last names score the
>					most points when playing Scrabble)
>
>
>1B - Guillermo Velasquez (Padres)         30

And assuming you could use names in Scrabble, how would you go about making
this name?  All the others seem to have either a) eight letters or less, so a
name could have been created from nothing, or b) have a legal Scrabble word in
the name, upon which the name could have been built.

Oops.  Excuse me.  I looked up "vela", which turns out to be the plural of
"velum", which Webster's uses in relation to the soft palate.  Wow.  I stand
corrected.

-- 
Kurt Bose (as in Daisy, not Rose) * kbos@carina.unm.edu * Walks: not that sexy.
"Halt!  Based on conclusive dental evidence that truly bites, I arrest you 
 hereby for the murdering of the dead Belzic Tascar.  I am obliged to warn you 
 that my weapons are registered as offensive fronds!!"- R.M.Allen, "Monkey See"
From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Spring Training Schedules
Date: 11 Jan 93 05:19:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: shelley.1ir01uINNbj
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
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Does anyone know if McPaper or McWeekly has published spring training
schedules yet?  If not, could someone post to the net when they are
eventually published?  Thanks.

GT
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From: chee1l5@Jane.UH.EDU (sam lane)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Astros Contenders?
Date: 6 Jan 1993 21:02:56 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
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Reply-To: chee1l5@Jane.UH.EDU
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paula@koufax.cv.hp.com (Paul Andresen) writes:

>Up until today, I was thinking that the Astros were going to do pretty well
>this year. 
>
>Today I heard that they had signed Jose Uribe.

Horror of horrors...and Kevin Bass too.

Despite these losers, the Astros should still win 90 ball games this
year. Of course with the expansion teams, this will probably only enough
for third place.

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From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: First Game Memories (Was: Re: Hey Giants fans!)
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 02:16:27 GMT

I was just thinking up a similar thread. 

Let's see. It was probably 1971. The Twins vs. Washington at Met Stadium.
It was early in the year, April or May, and fairly cold out. It was also
Bat Day. We were sitting under one of the decks and the kids above started
pounding their bats against the upper deck. I thought for sure that the
place was going to collapse. (Probably not too far from the truth with 
Met Stadium.)

The Twins won when Oliva drove Carew (?) in from third in either the ninth
or an extra inning. I couldn't understand why the game didn't keep going
after the run scored. After all, they had two more outs to score some more
runs.

Now I suppose I'll have to run one of Bill James' Tracers on this and see 
how well I did. All I'm sure of is we ate microwaved sandwiches at a Gulf 
station before the game because my dad didn't want to pay stadium prices
for food.

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    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)     |  Oakland A's, Mr Peanut was crushed by a 
  Special Limited Edition   |  red headed loner wielding an aluminum bat." 
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From: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Fallen Angels (WAS Re: Offense, Defense, and the Transmutation of Egalitarian Society)
Date: 4 Jan 1993 21:47:29 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department at Rose-Hulman
Reply-To: rickert@NeXTwork.Rose-Hulman.Edu (John H. Rickert)
NNTP-Posting-Host: g215a-1.nextwork.rose-hulman.edu

In article <1993Jan3.064137.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>  
djcoll04@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
> Now, a few messages ago, someone gaves his picks for '93.  Since I'm bored, 
> I'm going to respond by giving my picks. 
[Most picks deleted]
> there yet.  The Angels?  Dead last.   The Rangers?  In the top three, 

I've said it before and I'll say it again:
*Never* pick a Buck Rodgers lead team for last place.

john rickert      rickert@nextwork.rose-hulman.edu
News flash: The S.F. Giants have moved to Anchorage and become the Alaske  
Freeze. The N.L. is now the land of the Freeze and the home of the Braves.
From: barrym@informix.com (Barry Mednick)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Baby Ruth
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:59:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

In article <C0Jo45.CEA@babbage.ece.uc.edu> rbd@flash.ece.uc.edu (Bobby Davis) writes:
>The candy bar was actually named after the daughter of Grover Cleveland
>(no, not Grover Cleveland Alexander).  I think she may have been born in
>the White House.  Cleveland had married a much younger woman - it was a
>"scandal" according to his political enemies - and Ruth was their first
Not quite.  Ruth Cleveland was born out of wedlock.  President Cleveland
married Ruth's mother after Ruth was born (and after the election).
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From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Re: Clark v Thomas
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 02:48:26 GMT

In article <sterbenc-080193101614@150.130.23.185> sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com (Joe Sterbenc) writes:
>In article <1993Jan8.000104.20375@midway.uchicago.edu>, thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank) wrote:

>> Clark's only advantage is in defense.  It's not enough.  Point,set,match
>> Thomas, 6-0,6-2,6-0.

>> The only way Clark will have a better season than Thomas in 1993 (assuming
>> everyone healthy) is by beating up on Colorado Rockie pitching, which FT
>> won't get to do.

>I love Big Frank, but you're selling the Thrill short. Depending on who you
>ask, Clark is either the best defensive first base or one of the best. Frank

Yeah, big depending on who you ask.  But is this a big deal at first base?

>is worse than average. Despite the recent dropoff in SB, Clark can beat Frank
>around the bases if Frank starts at first.

Not true.  Clark is a *slightly* better base stealer, though not enough
to make a difference.  But Frank Thomas is *not* slow.  (He *was* a
tight end in college, you know.  He ran quite well.)

>Most importantly, Clark has supplanted his half-brother Jack as the best 
>clutch hitter in the game. He has produced in the clinch consistently
>for years. I don't believe that Frank has done better in the clutch than
>overall to date.

Prove it.  Not that I believe in any such thing as "best clutch hitters,"
but even assuming that there were such things, the stats don't show
Clark to *be* better than Thomas.

Thomas, not Clark, has hit better in clutch situations over his career.
(Anyone have 1992 stats, though?  I don't.)

>I wouldn't complain about either of them. If my team was in the Series and
>I needed one of the two, I'd take Clark. In another two years, I might take
>Frank. I'd certainly take Frank as a long-term investment, and am sure
>he will prove to be a better hitter careerwise than Will.

Yeah, most likely, since he is already better.  Will Clark has never had
a year as good as Frank Thomas.  His best year is not as good as
Thomas's worst year.  What does that say to you?
 
-- 
David M. Nieporent   | Is it too early to start making predictions for 1993?
niepornt@phoenix.    | Probably, but that never stopped me before.
   princeton.edu     | ALE: Baltimore ALW: Chicago NLE: Montreal NLW: Atlanta
Baltimore Orioles 93 | AL MVP: Cal Ripken  AL Cy Young: Mike Mussina
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
From: sandoval@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: First Game Memories (Was: Re: Hey Giants fans!)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 20:52:35 GMT

   Well, my first game was in 1974.  The Cardinal at the Padres.  It was
Bat Night and I have a very vivid picture of about 50,000 bats being waived
in the air.  We sat on the third base side, in the 3rd deck.
   The game went into extra innings.  Enzo Hernandez led of the bottom of the
10th with a walk.  He stole second and then the next batter (I don't
remember who) singled.  There was a close play at the plate, but Enzo scored
and the Pads won!
   I've been completely hooked on the Pads and baseball ever since... :)

   John


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From: mjones@fenway.aix.kingston.ibm.com (Mike Jones)
Subject: The Great HOF quiz - 1993
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 18:06:50 GMT
Reply-To: mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Kingston
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

OK, here's the scoop. I have taken everyone who was eligible for election to
the hall this year plus one ringer. For hitters, I scaled their career
statistics to 650 AB; for pitchers, to 200IP for starters and 80 IP for
relievers. If folks would like to do some guessing (no fair looking them
up!), I'll tally them and post results in a week or so. For each line, the
questions are:
1. Who is this guy?
2. Does he belong in the hall?

Hint: the ringer is a hitter, is retired, is not in the hall and is no
longer eligible for election by the writers.

HITTERS
  Years  AB  R   H  2B 3B HR  BB  K   AVG  OBP  SLG SB CS
A   15  650 113 190 33  8 36  92 160 .292 .379 .534 14  5
B   17  650  89 170 30  2 29  92 112 .261 .352 .445  2  3
C   16  650 105 171 24  5 16  85  87 .263 .348 .388 57 12
D   11  650  85 190 28  4 14  53  69 .292 .345 .410  5  5
E   17  650  90 161 28  6 22 106 120 .247 .353 .409  4  4
F   14  650  97 165 30  3 31 108 105 .254 .360 .452  5  4
G   23  650  80 182 33  3 20  84  59 .279 .362 .431  5  3
H   23  650  85 182 34  5 25  61 124 .279 .342 .463  5  3
I   16  650  98 183 29  5 21  85 102 .281 .365 .439 19  8
J   19  650  84 191 32  3 20  35  74 .294 .330 .446  9  6
K   15  650  87 168 35  3 27  69 101 .259 .330 .445  6  5
L   15  650  96 187 28  6 25  62  89 .287 .350 .462 11  8
M   18  650  82 193 28  5 21  64  90 .297 .361 .452  2  3
N   18  650  92 186 33  9 17  39  81 .286 .326 .442 31 13
O   15  650  91 198 34  3 16  60  50 .305 .363 .442 18  9
P   21  650 102 170 31  3 37  91 171 .262 .352 .490 23 12
Q   16  650  88 153 23  2 43  59 177 .236 .300 .478  9  5
R   17  650  90 194 37  4 21  40  81 .298 .339 .466  9  5
S   18  650  91 178 28  4 32  62 131 .274 .337 .480  5  3
T   17  650 112 194 33  8 18  80  58 .298 .376 .459 21 13
U   15  650  90 198 34  5 23  46  67 .304 .350 .476  9  6
V   17  650  93 193 34  2 31  48  96 .297 .345 .499 15  8
W   14  650 116 174 28  6 31  84 162 .268 .352 .471 47 17
X   15  650  91 180 29  5 27  88 107 .277 .363 .464  4  4
Y   19  650  85 188 44  6 17  58  70 .290 .348 .454 11  8
Z   15  650  87 190 28  4  9  45  62 .293 .339 .389  9  7
AA  13  650  83 177 30  3  6  53  60 .273 .328 .357  7  7

PITCHERS
  Years W  L  G CG SHO SV  IP  K  ERA
AB  17 13 10 30  9  2   0 200 130 3.26
AC  25 12 10 40  8  1   1 200 109 3.45
AD  24 12 10 32  9  2   1 200 124 3.35
AE  19 13 10 33 11  3   1 200 139 3.30
AF  16 12 10 32 11  2   1 200 156 3.44
AG  15  5  4 46  0  0   8  80  56 3.54

Mail guesses to me and I'll summarize to the net.

   Mike Jones  |  AIX/ESA Development  |  mjones@donald.aix.kingston.ibm.com

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From: psg+@pitt.edu (Paul S Galvanek)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Re: Dodgers sign Parrish and Ritchie
Date: 11 Jan 93 18:31:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1666@blue.cis.pitt.edu> genetic+@pitt.edu (Dr. Dave) writes:
>Thus spake pcaster@mizar.usc.edu (Dodger):
>
>It's certainly not a long-term solution, but I can't imagine that Parrish
>will be any worse this year than Scioscia would be.

Thing I don't understand is, I thought this is supposed to be the year 
that Mike Piazza, the Dodger's power hitting catcher of the future, makes
a name for himself.  Is Parrish simply insurance against a Piazza fizzle,
or are they going to bring him along more slowly than originally planned?

PSG
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From: "drew carley" <drew.carley@canrem.com>
Subject: women sports reporter
Reply-To: "drew carley" <drew.carley@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:31:21 EST

 the law and propiety was served by creating an 'interview area'
>in the locker room, satisfying the agreements to have 'interviews in the
>locker room' while still giving the players some privacy.

RT> I take it this report was AFTER Wyche was flamed for unilaterly
RT>barring women sports reporters, and altered his policy, right?
    The funniest response I heard was from Catfish Hunter( I think)when
    asked his opinion on women reporters being allowed into the
    dressing rooms to conduct interviews.He said that the first thing
    that they would learn is that all men are not created equal!

Drew Carley,Toronto Canada
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From: niepornt@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Marc Nieporent)
Subject: Re: Alomar and Range Factor (was Re: Lists: The Best Players In Baseball)
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:32:15 GMT

In article <1993Jan9.021823.1344@Princeton.EDU> roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) writes:
>In <1993Jan9.021025.374@Princeton.EDU> (David Marc Nieporent) writes:
>>In <1993Jan8.142208.5524@sni.ca> dave@snitor.sni.ca (Dave Till) writes:

>>>BTW:  has anyone else noticed that Alomar's stats resemble those of the
>>>young Joe Morgan?  Alomar isn't walking quite as much as Morgan yet, and
>>>doesn't have the power that the mature Morgan did, but they both have
>>>the same broad range of skills...

>>Which brings up a question I've been meaning to ask.  I'm too young to
>>remember them first hand, so how did Joe Morgan get those MVP awards?  
>>I can't believe that could happen.  Not that he didn't deserve them; of 
>>COURSE he did.  I can't believe that the mediots were smart enough to 
>>give MVPs to a guy who didn't hit a billion home runs and didn't lead the 
>>league in RBIs.  I mean, look how many it years it was before Rickey got
>>one - how did Morgan manage?

>Easy.  It was about the 4th year in a row that he should have won, when he
>did.  The next year, he did everything better.

>Morgan's 72-77 is one of the great peak performances in baseball history.
>He led the Big Red Machine in OBP, SLG, and of course SB-CS (or reasonable
>equivalent) in that time.   Bench, Perez, Rose -- not close.

That's all well and good, but my question is, how did the mediots come
to realize this?

They're perfectly capable of arguing that Cecil Fielder is more valuable
than Frank Thomas, that Joe Carter is more valuable than John Olerud, or
that Dwight Gooden knows how to win more than David Cone does.

I *know* how great Morgan was.  I don't know why the mediots recognized
it.  Was it simply luck -- the fact that he played on a great team, so he
"provided leadership" and all that crap?

-- 
David M. Nieporent   | Is it too early to start making predictions for 1993?
niepornt@phoenix.    | Probably, but that never stopped me before.
   princeton.edu     | ALE: Baltimore ALW: Chicago NLE: Montreal NLW: Atlanta
Baltimore Orioles 93 | AL MVP: Cal Ripken  AL Cy Young: Mike Mussina
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From: snichols@adobe.com (Sherri Nichols)
Subject: Re: Cecil signs :-( :-( :-(
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:44:50 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.164050.27334@athena.mit.edu> frisch1@athena.mit.edu (Jonathan Katz) writes:
>I don't understand you guys.  Fielder is one of the five best first basemen in
>the league right now.  His avergae last year was an aberration.  And besides, his
>average wasnt _that bad_ considering how many homeruns he hit.  He's been an
>all-star the past three years, too (a starter a couple of times also, if I am
>correct).  That clearly makes him beter than 'marginally above average'.

No, being selected to the all-star team (particularly being voted in as a
starter) says nothing about whether a player is above average or not.  It
may say something about whether a player is *perceived* to be above average
or not, but perception isn't reality.

>Besides, and this will probably get a lot of flaming, I think that had he not
>missed time in Japan, he would now be on the way to a HOF career.

This is really laughable.  He "missed time" in Japan because no major
league organization was interested in him.  Does that really sound like a
potential HOF'er?  Particularly a potential HOF'er whose major strengths
were that he piles up homers and RBIs?

As Bill James says in _The Baseball Book 1992_ (paraphrasing): Personally,
I think the idea that Cecil Fielder was an MVP candidate last year is
*weird*.

Sherri Nichols
snichols@adobe.com
From: chee1l5@Jane.UH.EDU (sam lane)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.baseball
Subject: Klesko/Arizona League
Date: 5 Jan 1993 16:07:16 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
Reply-To: chee1l5@Jane.UH.EDU
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I read that Ryan Klesko was playing this winter in the Arizona League. He
supposedly was tearing the league up with 11 homers in ~ 115 AB's and over
a .600 slugging %.  The next closest HR total was 7. This certainly is
promising news for Braves fans (who want him to spell Bream/Hunter), but does
anyone know how competitive the league is and to what extent the stats are
inflated ? I'm assuming the inflation factor is somewhere near the PCL since
the article also gave the stats for some of the Braves top pitching 
prospects (Donnie Elliot for one) and their ERA's were all in the 4-5 range.  

I wasn't familiar with this winter league, is it new? Too new for MLE's ?

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Univ.of Houston  ~ 8-year old:"No, but my Dad says get your autograph because
Dept.of Chem.Eng.~             you won't be around much longer."
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