From: abbasi@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: DESERT STORM. HAS IT ENDED?
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:46:31 GMT

 CHRIST IN ISLAM BY AHMED DEEDAT

	ONCE MORE THE PLANS OF A DICTATOR HAVE BEEN DASHED - DASHED IN THE 
DESERT SAND WITH THE LOSS OF HUNDRED OF THOUSANDS OF LIVES.  DESERT STORM WILL 
BE REMEMBERED, BY THOSE INVOLVED, FOR YEARS TO COME. BUT IT IS NOT THE FIRST 
DESERT STORM.  A STROM HAS BEEN RAGING IN THE DESERT FOR MORE THAN 2000 YEARS
OVER A MAN CALLED JESUS (PEACE BE UPON HIM) AND HIS MISSION.  DISPUTES 
CONCERNING THE NATURE OF CHRIST HAVE DELIDGED THE EARTH WITH THE BLOOD OF 
MILLIONS OF PEOPLE SONCE HIS BIRTH(MATHEW 2:16). WHAT THEN IS THE MUSLIM STAND
POINT REGARDING THE PERSONALITY OF THE PRINCE OF PEACE-JESUS.


			CHAPTER 1
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		CHRISTIAN MUSLIM RESPONSES
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	DEBATE ON TV
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AT THE END OF THE DEBATE- "CHRISTIANITY AND ISLAM"- WHICH APPEARED ON THE 
SABC-TV PROGRAMME "CROSS(+) QUESTIONS" ON SUNDAY 5TH JUNE 1983(1), THE CHAIRMAN,
MR.BILL CHALMERS COMMENTED.
	"I THINK IT CAN BE SAID SAID FROM THIS DISCUSSION THAT THERE IS, AT 
PRESENT, SOMEWHAT MORE ACCOMODATION ON THE ISLAMIC SIDE FOR THE FOUNDER OF
CHRISTIANITY THEN THER IS ON THE CHRISTIAN SIDE FOR THE FOUNDER OF ISLAM. WHAT
THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THAT IS, WE LEAVE IT TO YOU, THE VIEWER, TO DETERMINE, BUT 
I DO THINK YOU WILL AGREE THAT WE ARE TALKIN TOGETHER."
 "BILL" AS EH IS PROBABLY ADDRESSED, WITHOUT ANY FORMALITIES, ON ALL HIS 
PROGRAMMES, BY ALL HIS PANELISTS, IS EXTREMELY CHARMING AND STUPENDOUS IN HIS 
HUMILITY.  HE IS THE PICTURE OF WHAT THE HOLY QOR'AN PORTRAYS OF A GOOD 
CHRISTIAN :

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1.  IF YOU MISSED THE PROGRAM OR WISH TO REVIEW IT AGAIN, WE WILL GLADLY SEND
YOU A VHS VIDEO TAPE ON LOAN, PLEASE PHONE THE, "CENTRE" FOR DETAILS. REGRET,
THIS OFFER APPLIES TO SOUTH AFRICA ONLY.

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"......AND NEAREST                       
 AMONG THEM IN LOVE  		    				

TO THE BELIEVERS
WIL'T THOU FIND

THOSE WHO SAY,
"WE ARE CHRISTIANS"(1):

BECAUSE 
AMONG THESE 
ARE MEN DEVOTED TO LEARNING

AND MEN
WHO HAVE RENOUNCED THE WORLD

AND THEY ARE
NOT ARROGANT."

                  THE HOLY QUR'AN 5:85 

 	JESUS- HIS STATUS
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WERE THE MUSLIMS ON THE PANEL, TRYING TO PLACATE THE VIEWERS OUT OF POLICY, 
DECEIT OR DIPLOMACY? NOTHING OF THE KIND! THEY WERE OMLY ARTICULATING WHAT
GOD ALMIGHTYHAD COMMANDED THEM TO SAYIN SO MANY WORDS- "WE MULIMS BELEIVE
, THAT JESUS WAS ONE OF THE MIGHTIEST MESSENGERS OF GOD, THAT HE WAS THE 
CHRIST, THAT HEALE INTERVENTION ( WHICH MANY MODERN DAY CHRISTIANS DO NOT 
BELEIVE TODAY), THAT HE GAVE LIFE TO THE DEAD BY GOD'S PERMISSION, IN FACT  
AND THAT HE HEALED THOSE BORN BLIND AND THE LEPPERS NBY GOD'S PERMISSION.
IN FACT NO MUSLIM IS A MUSLIM IF HE DOES NOT BELEIVE IN JESUS!".

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1.   "CHRISTIANS", THE MEANING IS NOT THAT THEY CALL THEMSELVES CHRISTIANS, BUT
THAT THEY ARE SUCH SINCERE CHRISTIANS THAT THEY APPRECIATE ,MUSLIM VIRTUES. THEY
WOULD SAY:"IT IS TRUE WE ARE CHRISTIANS, BUT WE UNDERSTAND YOUR POINT OF VIEW, 
AND WE KNOW YOU ARE GOOD MEN." THAY ARE MUSLIMS AT HEART, WHATEVER THEIR LABEL
MAY BE.

 

		PLEASANT SURPRISE
		-----------------

OVER 90% OF THE PEOPLE WHO WITNESSED THE DEBATE MUST HAVE BEEN PLEASANTLY.
BUT SCEPTICALLY, SURPRISED. THAY MIGHT HAVE NOT BELEIVED THEIR EARS.  THEY 
MIGHT HAVE SURMISED THAT THE MULIMS WERE PLAYING TO THE GALERRY- THAT THEY
WERE TRYING TO CURRY FAVOUR WITH THEIR FELLOW CHRISTIAN COUNTRYMEN; THAT IF 
THE MUSLIMS WOULD SAY A FEW GOOD WORDS ABOUT JESUS, THEN IN RECIPROCATION 
THE CHRISTIANS MIGHT SAY A FEW GOOD WORDS ABOUT MUHUMMED(MAY THE PEACE AND
BLESSINGS OF GOD BE UPON ALL HIS RIGHTEOUS SERVANTS- MOSES, JESUS, MUHUMMED
E.T.C); THAT I SCRATCH YOUR BACK AND YOU SCRATCH MY BACK- WHICH WOULD BE A 
SHAM OR HYPOCRISY.

		HATE CULTIVATED
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WE CANNOT BLAME THE CHRISTIANS FOR THEIR SKEPTICISM. THAY HAVE BEEN SO 
PROGRAMMED FOR CENTURIES. THEY WERE TRAINED TO THINK THE WORST OF THE MAN 
MUHUMMED(PBUH) AND HIS RELIGION. HOW APTLY DID THOMAS CARLISLE SAY HIS 
CHRISTIAN BRETHREN OVER A HUNDRED AND FIFTY YEARS AGO-"THE LIES WHICH WELL-
MEANING ZEAL HAS HEAPED ROUND THIS MAN (MUHUMMED) ARE DISGRACEFULTO OURSELVES 
ONLY." WE MUSLIMS ARE PARTLY RESPONSIBLE FOR THIS STAGERRING IGNORANCE OF THE 
1,200,000,000 CHRISTIANS OF THE WORLD. WE HAVE NOT DONE ANYTHING SUBSTANTIAL
TO REMOVE THE COBWEMS.


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