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From: engp1186@nuscc.nus.sg (Won-Soon Lau)
Subject: Re: Malaysia to choose F16 or Mig29
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 07:28:32 GMT

sofjan mustopoh (smustopo@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:
:   
:      Mig29 however are not tested in the battle field yet, But boy o boy
:  that plane really can manuver, it can do back slide , Cobra.
:  Back slide = go straight up lower the power the plane slide down backward
:  cobra  = point the plane nose up but the plane still move horizontally.

Interview with Non Eastern Bloc pilots who were invited to fly the Mig29
shows that that a/c is poor in human engineering.  The pilot has to spend
lot of time struggle with the controls thus divert some of the attention
the pilot needs for target engagement.
: 
:       Speaking about Sidewinder .It is not a real fire and forget missile
:  you still need avionic electronics in the plane to lock the target first
:  if i'm not mistaken.
: 
During the target acquisition phase, the missile gyro is slave to the
a/c's gyro.  Once the pilot aligned his a/c to the target, the pilot 
uncage the missile's gyro (so call lock-on) and the missile is ready
is guide itself base on the information gathered on it IR seeker.

:       But all of the above plane will be of no use if the country don't
:  have tracking and radar , at least a Hawkeye or AWACS. Iraqi in
:  Desert Storm have their radar shot to pieces thus have severe handicap
:  for their pilots. Allied force however have full advantage of Radar
:  AWACS . So sheer number of plane is useless.  :)

A very good example is the Israel and Syria air war (over the Barkca valley?)
where the israeli scored a 62-0 victory over the syrian Migs.  One of
the decisive factor was that israel was able to jam the syrian Migs
radar using the Hawkeye and vector their own fighter in to do the
actual kill.  One source said that the syrian fighter radar was jammed
the moment that a/c lift-off from the runway.  So the pilot is as good as
blind (for me I'll rather pull the 0-0 seat level at the end of the runway :-)
In modern air war where fighting begins BVR (Beyond Visual Range), better
standoff capability is the winning edge.

Won Soon
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From: cheu@saturn.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Subject: Re: Take home pay in Singapore
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Reply-To: cheu@saturn.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:05:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep09.220112.11663@hounix.org>, sgan@hounix.org (Seng Gan) writes:
|> Could somebody please tell me what is the income tax rate in Singapore?
|> What I am interested in is if your gross pay is
|>      $40,000 Singaporean what is the actual take home pay after all the
|>      deductions?
|> The gross pay level I am interested in are
|>     $40,000
|>     $45,000
|>     $50,000
|>     $55,000
|>     $60,000
|> Please reply through E-mail to
|> sgan@hounix.org
|> Thanks in advance............
|> 

Pay in Singapore is a complicated business.  Let's say your annual
gross salary is S$50,000.  Your monthly salary is $50,000/13=$3846.
The 13th month's salary will be given to you as bonus in December
for your Christmas shopping, or pay income tax.  Now, evey month
you have $3846.  You have to contribute 25% of the $3846 to CPF
(Central Provident Fund). You are left with $2884.  This, minus 
your health insurance, union fee, car-loan, house-loan you borrow
from your company is then your take home pay in CASH.

Back to CPF, you have contributed 25% of your gross salary into your
personal account.  You company will in addition contribute 19% into 
your personel account.  That makes your monthly deposit to $3846x(25%+19%)
=$1692.  You can use your CPF account to buy selected real estate 
properties, pay medical bill for yourself or your immediate family
members, and for your children's education.  The balance will be
given back to you (with about 5% annual interest) when you retired, or
when you decided to leave the country for good.

Now lets talk about `bonus'.  Most of the companies, in addition to
the 13th month year-end bonus, also give 'variable bonus', subjected
to economic performance.  Last year Gov't and related employees 
received 1.75 month's salary as 'variable bonus'.  This year they
have already received 0.5 month 'mid-year' bonus in June.

About Tax, your taxable income, is basically your total annual salary,
including bonus, minus your CPF contribution, personal and family
allowance etc.  I would say it is around 15%.

Hope these do not confuse you.  But, if you are hired as an EXPAT, you
can always negotiate all the things in your contract.  Some of the 
EXPATs do get a large sum of end-of-contract gratuity (actually I doubt
this is their CPF $).


Kelvin
From: ytay@aardvark.ucs.uoknor.edu (AUS:Yian,Tay)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Merdeka - Malayan Style
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:38:00 GMT
Organization: University of Oklahoma - University Computing Services
Originator: news@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep7.015329.23277@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg>, eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes...
> 
>	How many usenet readers know when Malaysia was formed? The date is
>actually subject to argument. I had argued with my Scholarship interviewers
>when I was 18, but because of lack of time we did not dwell on it.


Yes, yes, I know you won the Turing Award, Nobel Prize, invented piplining
when nobody had hear of it, a historian, a scholarship holder and etc...


Care to tell me more of your wonderful achievement?  I dying to hear them.
Oh, my God this suspense is just killing me..


> 
>The parallel is the 4th of July celebrations. Is it called the Independence
>celebration? Students in USA can discuss it better, in relationship to 
>the Malaysian national day celeberations.
>	Officially it is not called Merdeka, rather Hari Kebangsaan, national
>day. 
> 
> 
> 
>Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
>Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
>Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
>Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
> 
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From: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad)
Subject: KL mayor,Elyas,resigns
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:18:33 GMT

On Malaysian TV the PM, Dr. Mahathir, explained that Tan Sri Elyas, the
mayor of Kuala Lumpur, has submitted his resignation letter because he
admits responsibility for the purchase of 27 volvos by the City Hall
(Dewan Bandaraya KL).

I'm confused by the severity and conflicting signals reported on Malaysian
TV.

Dr. Mahathir ealier, just a few days ago, mentioned that the journalists
who leaked out the story about City Hall may be tried under the
Malaysian official secrecy act. I still do not know what it was all about.
I read earlier that some journalists(which one? may be those tabloids,
my guess only) mentioned that there is misappropriation in City Hall, from
New Straits Times(Malaysia). If I remember correctly, it had something to do
with land application for housing projects which did not meet certain criteria.

With the political strength of Tan SRI Elyas, I thought there will be a
cover up, so this action taken against him is indeed surprising. And then,
it is about buying of volvos.
	This has rarely happened in Malaysia. The same official secrecy act 
had been applied against journalists in Straits Times(Singapore)
 but was not well publicised. I do not know the outcome from my TV news.
	I suspect there had been some political infighting in the Cabinet.
Anuar Ibrahim could have a hand especially with his "special speech"
against corruption a long time ago. He must do something to show that he
means business, otherwise his reputation as a religious leader will disappear
completely. He has already been constantly accused of being too soft in the
past.

--
Othman bin Ahmad, School of EEE,
Nanyang Technological University, Singapore 2263.
Internet Email: eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg
Bitnet Email: eoahmad@ntuvax.bitnet
From: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Subject: Basic Instinct
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Reply-To: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 9 Sep 92 18:35:10 GMT


Few weeks ago I read from the Straits Times Overseas Edition that
Basic Instinct was being rated by the film censorship board in Singapore.
The distributor, 20th Century Fox, wanted it to be in PG category, instead
of R as screened in the U.S.  Does anybody has updated infor on that ?
Is it to be screened in Malaysia ?

Kelvin
From: fellow@cs.utexas.edu (Heng Wei Osbert Tan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: News from S'pore and M'sia
Date: 10 Sep 1992 11:57:56 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: yoakum.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Sep10.122828.6052@nuscc.nus.sg>, arthurc@solomon.technet.sg (Arthur!! Chai) writes:
> 
> 2) Basic Instinct has been passed with approx 20secs in cuts from the
> distributor's version (only 20 secs ? I am amazed ;^)) and will be

I suppose it will be the first 10 secs of the beginning of the show, 2 secs
during which the main lady character was being interrogated, and another
8 secs of the rest of the sex scene, which make the resulting show, hm...
mildly palatable, but definitely not the original hot and spicy ;). Well
eat your heart out guys, tsk tsk.

-Osbert


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From: UC580503@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu (Albert Foo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Income taxes in Malaysia and Singapore
Date: 14 Sep 1992 21:51:28 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Does anybody know what is the income tax rate in Malaysia and Singapore?
Please email me if you do.

Thanks in advance.

Albert Foo
Biometric Computer Consultant
Fisheries Research Center, Columbia
Missouri Dept. of Conservation
Email: uc580503@mizzou1.missouri.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan)
Subject: Re: Malaysia to choose F16 or Mig29
Reply-To: af620@yfn.ysu.edu (Andrew Tan)
Organization: St. Elizabeth Hospital, Youngstown, OH
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 04:55:42 GMT


In a previous article, engp1186@nuscc.nus.sg (Won-Soon Lau) says:

>Having some form of early warning has always been part of Singapore defence
>strategy.  If you follow Singapore's news closely you would know our defence
>outline.  We are quite capable to provide surveillance within a 500 km radius.
>Mine sweeping and ASW capability has been added recently.  Speaking of
>surprise attack, the citizen has been participating in the civil defence
>training in which they know how to react during emergency.  How do you
>stage a surprise attack?  By air?  I can name you two airfields which are
>within their combat radius from Singapore.  One is located in Kuantan and
>the other is somewhere in Sumatra.  With these 2 air-fields covered, the
>probability becomes very small.  Everyone is worry about chemical attack.
>And it is perfectly possible that iraqi is the supplier of some of these.
>If Israel can provide every citizen with a gas mask do you think we cannot
>do so when the situation arises?  At any one time, there are 300k to half a 
>million foreign workers in Singapore.  What do you think will the reaction be
>from their home country of such an surprise attack?  Anyway, I frankly think
>that you're new to military operations.  You stage an surprise attack to
>neutralise the enemy's military power not to use that for man-slaugther.
>To sum it all, military defence is just one arm of our Total Defence strategy.
>Whatever you think of now is nothing new to our defence strategists.


The above article just goes to prove how "KIA-SU" Singaporeans are. Tis
funny how Singaporeans have this phobia of being attacked while Malaysians
could care less about doing so. Oi..wake up and smell the teh-o, lahh!!
If y'all get too naughty, we'll just raise the Causeway, and y'all
might just end up neighbours with New Zealand. Kiwipore? Naahhh...  ;)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Wanted: Post Doc in S'pore/M'sia
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 00:38:52 GMT
Organization: Massey University, New Zealand

Apa Khabar.

I am a PhD student studying Applied Maths in New Zealand.  
After I complete my PhD, somewhere near the beginning of 1994,
I'd like to get a job or Post Doctoral Research Fellowship (that's what
we call them, anyway), preferably in K.L..   I'd be available to start at 
the beginning of the first semester of 1994.

I am a New Zealander but 
I have a lot of friends in Malaysia and Singapore (especially one in 
particular!) and I'd like to spend a few years there.

I am told that all of the Malaysian Universities speak Malay, which is
unfortunate for me as I can only speak English and a little Mandarin.
But in Singapore you have English speaking Universities, don't you?

Anyway,  can anyone out there help me out with suggestions for places
to look for Post Doctoral research or other jobs suitable for a recent
Maths PhD graduate?

Just email me back please (do not post replies on the news).

Terima Kaseh :-)

Simon

PS> I love LAT.  Aduuuuuuuu......
From: hong@mbfys.kun.nl (Hong Zhou)
Subject: Looking for a friend at Texas A&M Univ.
Organization: University of Nijmegen
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 13:51:51 GMT

Hi Everyone out Texas,

I am in search of the address/telephone number of a friend
whose name is Elsje Verhagen. She is a graduate student majoring
in Education at Texas A&M Univ. If you can help me to locate 
her, please drop me a message. Your help is deeply appreciated. 

Thanks in advance, 

Hong Zhou
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From: mdicker@nyx.cs.du.edu (Mike Dickerson)
Subject: Re: Malaysia to choose F16 or Mig29
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 14:14:48 GMT

eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:

>IMO Malaysia should go for Mig 29. It is dual engined, and carbon fibred
>body. It is in the class of F15, whereas F16 is only with the Mig23.

This should probably go to sci.military, but here goes.  The situation
is not quite as simple as you state.

First, the F16 is *not* in a class with the Mig23, except in the sense
that a Mig23 is in the same class as a P-51 Mustang.  I wouldn't want
to be the Mig23 trying to fight the F16! 

The Mig29 has one of the better airframes flying today.  It is not a
fly-by-wire system, but is controlled by hydrolics, and manages to do
quite well for it.  It is a slightly larger aircraft than the F16 but
no where near as large as the F15 or F14 (the F15 is an air
superiority fighter, the F14 is a naval interceptor that happens to be
able to dogfight reasonably if the need arises, but they are both big
aircraft).  But make no mistake, the Mig29 has a great airframe.

The F16 is arguably the best dogfighter in the world today, the Mig29
notwithstanding.  Even though the Mig29 has an outstanding airframe,
that does not make the airplane.  The F16 has many, many more systems
which increase its combat effectiveness.  For example, it can
integrate into other NATO systems such as AWACS (which is a *huge*
advantage), it has an interface which is designed to simplify the job
of the pilot and improve his situational awareness.  The westerners
who have flown the Mig29 say that it does very well, but is not quite
as crisp handling as the F16, and it keeps the pilot much busier since
there are fewer electronic systems.  It also lacks some of the things
required for good situational awareness in combat.

Then, the F16 is battle proven, while the Mig29 is not.  And to your
question of whether Sidewinders can be put on a Mig29, the answer is
"no".   The F16 also has significant ground attack capability, which
the Mig29 does not (yet) have, making it a dual role aircraft and
meaning you don't have to buy another aircraft for ground attack.

Granted the Mig29 *looks* cool.  But so does the F5, the F15, and the
F22 (not yet available).  You don't buy expensive aircraft based on
looks. 

Malaysia needs to decide the mission of these aircraft (interception?
air superiority with ground attack capability?) and purchase the best
available plane based on this mission.  The F16 is probably the best
choice available today for a lightweight air combat fighter with
ground attack capabilities.

   /M
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
From: marv@iti.gov.sg (Marvin Tay Eng Sin)
Subject: Bidding for an F15
Organization: Information Technology Institute, National Computer Board, Singapore.
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 05:06:37 GMT

Othman Ahmad writes:

>How about Singapore? Why wont you buy the F15s?

    Do they come with Weekend COE's?

-Reg

(cleverly disguised as marv@iti.gov.sg)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Merdeka - Malayan Style
From: chuah@elec.canterbury.ac.nz (DanC)
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:27:23 +1200
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering Department, University of Canterbury, New Zealand.


In article <1992Sep7.015329.23277@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg> eoahmad@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Othman Ahmad) writes:

>	Another unfortunate event is that the National day does not fall on the
>date Malaysia was formed. As a result the majority of Malaysians(99.9%), all
>over, including Sabah and Sarawak, do not know when Malaysian was formed.

This can be a subject of debate.  Originally, Singapore & East Malaysia
was supposed to join Malaysia on the 31 August, but due to problems
from our good neighbours, the union was only officially recognised
by most countries in September.  I think 31 August is appropriate as
that is the date West Malaysia gained her independence and it is also
the date choosen for East & West Malaysia to be united.  As far as
Malaysia is concerned, the unoin was officially formed on the 31
August and that is the day we should celebrate the birth of our
nation - not some stupid day that other nations decided to recognise
us.

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From: u907736@postoffice.utas.edu.au (Edmund Chia)
Subject: Re: Travel advice needed on Singapore & Malaysia
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:15:21 GMT

Any and every back-packer to Southeast Asia should have a copy of
the Lonely Planet's guide-book to the region. The 1992 edition is
out and offers lots of useful and interesting information - including
a short list of very cheap and 'mildly illegal accomodation'in Singapore.

Edmund
From: limsoon@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Limsoon Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean
Subject: Re: Malaysia to choose F16 or Mig29
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:21:34 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Hi:

Please pardon my ignorance, but I am intriqued by the 
differences between "interceptor, "air superiority
fighter", and "dog-fighter". Can a kind soul enlighten
me with some explanations? In particular, what does
an "air superiority fighter" do? I can guess the function
of the other two, but this one....

                                         Limsoon Wong.
From: jamolina@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Molina)
Subject: New newsgroup: alt.visa.us
Organization: Syracuse University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 18:50:05 EDT


To all of you guys with experience or questions about U.S. visas, residence,
and/or citizenship. There is a new newsgroup called alt.visa.us to discuss
this topic in detail. We encourage all those interested to join the group
and help clear up the intricacies of U.S. immigration laws. We appreciate
your help!

From: leongaw@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Ak Wing Leong)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 05:21:12 GMT
Subject: Re: What Happened To OUR MALAYSIAN PRINCE story?????
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: soc.culture.asean

In this case the saying "No news is good news" happens to be true. I guess the
children are happily playing somewhere along the beaches of Trengganu !
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