HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nelson@crynwr.com (Russell Nelson)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Let's ignore Stanley
Distribution: world
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:29:35 GMT
Organization: Crynwr Software

Folks, let's just ignore Stanley.  If he doesn't have an MX record,
he loses.  You and I know that, he doesn't, so why should we care?

-russ <nelson@crynwr.com> What canst *thou* say?
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From: pbh@prjup.UUCP (Patrick B. Haggood)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: FSUUCP news/UUPC news requests
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 10:23:24 EST
News-Software: FSUUCP 1.3r1
X-pizza-toppings: extra cheese and mushrooms
X-gripe: ignorance and hate
Reply-To: pbh@prjup.UUCP (Patrick B. Haggood)
Distribution: world
Organization: Project: Jupiter Scientific Software


I've been told that to receive news with UUPC/extended or
FSUUCP, I have to "make sure that rnews is configured in
my setup".  What does this mean?  I put 'rnews=d:\uupc\rnews.com'
into uucp.rc in UUPC/extended and UUPC-uucico sez it doesn't
understand that command.  I don't see any rnews command in
FFUUCP.cfg either, and there is no man command for rnews.

What am I doing wrong?

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: martini@heaven7.in-berlin.de (Martin P. Ibert)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: BNU and grades
Date: 15 Dec 92 01:09:22 GMT
Organization: The Seventh Heaven, Berlin, Germany
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Mime-Version: 1.0

Hi,

I'm running BNU, and I have a system that calls me to get news. I call it
sometimes when I want to deliver mail. At present, any news spooled for
that system trigger a long-distance call from my site to the other site :-(

I remember reading sometime, somewhere that I can tell BNU only to deliver
grades A to C when I call, and all grades when they call. But for the life
of me, I don't find that bloody manual page! (Do say RTFM if you like, but
be specific as to WHAT manual and WHAT page I should read.)

Please answer by mail, since I don't succeed in keeping up to the tide of
unread news very often.

Thank you.
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From: brian@igc.apc.org (Brian J. Coan)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Weird! Sun can't UUCP to other Sun
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:27:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:1992Dec10.192406.13795@fullfeed.:1123506530:cdp:1352100003:000:493
Nf-From: cdp.UUCP!brian    Dec 17 11:27:00 1992


in the Systems entry for the host you are having problems connecting
to, add the expect-send strings "" P_ZERO. that should allow your
suns to talk.

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Community Data Processing (CdP):        415-322-9069
Internet: brian@igc.apc.org             UUCP: uunet!cdp!brian
Bitnet: brian%igc.org@stanford          DASNet: [DE3MIR]brian
FidoNet: Brian J Coan @ 1:204/4
From: pbh@prjup.mi.org (Patrick B. Haggood)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: test
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 21:24:44 EST
News-Software: FSUUCP 1.3r1
X-pizza-toppings: extra cheese and mushrooms
X-gripe: ignorance and hate
Reply-To: pbh@prjup.mi.org (Patrick B. Haggood)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Project: Jupiter Scientific Software

sorry.
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From: cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu (Christopher J. Ambler, Phish)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: FSUUCP news/UUPC news requests
Date: 20 Dec 92 05:35:11 GMT
Organization: When Fashion Dictates, you're living in a Fashion State!

pbh@prjup.UUCP (Patrick B. Haggood) recently informed us:
>I've been told that to receive news with UUPC/extended or
>FSUUCP, I have to "make sure that rnews is configured in
>my setup".  What does this mean?  I put 'rnews=d:\uupc\rnews.com'
>into uucp.rc in UUPC/extended and UUPC-uucico sez it doesn't
>understand that command.  I don't see any rnews command in
>FFUUCP.cfg either, and there is no man command for rnews.

I can't speak for UUPC, but for FSUUCP, it means making sure that
the directory that has all of your FSUUCP executables is on the DOS
path. That way, postnews, readnews, and uuxqt (the 3 applications that
could possibly need rnews) can find it. 

There is no man entry for rnews because it's completely user transparent.

I see that you posted using FSUUCP, so you probably have it right. If you
still have problems, let me know.

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: g protocol and error correction
From: scasterg@waltham.columbus.oh.us
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 04:01:02 -0500
X-Mailer: rnMac Buggy, I mean Beta, Test Version

Can anybody explain the uneasy relationship between g protocol and
error correction? I have had varying amounts of trouble with it at
different sites and different times.

I generally get the best throughput using no EC or compression when using
g protocol, but another site I connect with keeps EC on all the time and
says he has problems connecting using g when he turns it off. I disable
it manually from my side.

sometimes I have experienced errors using g with EC on, other times
merely a noticable degradation in performance.

A person at another site I know cannot connect at all unless he turns
error correction off.

What's the deal?

I'd rather just be using f protocol... :-)
From: djk@boombox.apana.org.au (David Keegel)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: Mixed format addresses
Summary: let .UUCP die; if .US isn't quite right, improve it!
Date: 18 Dec 92 05:38:57 GMT
Reply-To: djk@boombox.apana.org.au
Organization: Private site, Melbourne, Australia.

In <e80RVB2w165w@1776.COM> bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe) writes:
>barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
>> Unfortunately, in DNS, having a wildcard MX ... will mean that ALL mail to 
>> *.UUCP will go to the one site.  To further complicate matters, there is no 

Nobody said it has to be *one* site.  But let's not argue about that.

>> .UUCP DNS registrar, and I don't think there ever should be.  The .UUCP 
>> hack should just die a slow, painful, agonizing death, to be replaced by 
>> more sane domainized addresses.  (like .edu, .com, .us, etc)

Hear, hear!  Or maybe a quick, painful, agonizing death?

For the record, there's no need to make a .UUCP *zone* or registrar,
with my "existence proof" anyway.  Just whack the MX line(s) in question
("*.UUCP. IN MX ...") into the root zone file.  Simple! :-)

>Suppose someone were to propose that rather than have the .UUCP notation die 
>out, it should be formalized as a "real" domain.

No!!  Non-US hosts become the problem of the top-level country DNS admin.
For US UUCP hosts, some belong in EDU., COM., ORG. etc.  Almost all of the
rest can fit into the geographical US. domain.

>A .UUCP domain could function in a manner almost identical to .US, but 
>without the geographical implications.  I've never been convinced that geo-
>graphical site names are such a great idea anyway.

This is a valid point.  It has been discussed in Australia, where the
AU. admin Robert Elz is against a geographical domain for private sites.

I wonder whether cooper@isi.edu et al have considered having a non-
geographical subset of US., for instance "mobile.US." for those who
don't want to be/aren't tied to a particular state.  Just a thought.

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From: john.moody@flashb.fwb.fl.us (John Moody) 
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: WAFFLE - HELP!  CAN'T POS
Date: 10 Dec 92 07:51:00 GMT
Reply-To: john.moody@flashb.fwb.fl.us (John Moody) 
Distribution: WORLD
Organization: Moody's Computer Service Shopper (MCSS) - FWB, FL - 904-863-2510

To:  efs@summa4.mv.com

I don't see it anywhere Ed, but do you have a directory setup in your
sppol directory with the name of the feedsite for your mail?  Just a
wild shoot, I put 1.65 up and changed to uupcb as it matched my pcboard
software perfectly..so decided not to learn a new bbs system and stuck
with what I have.  Hope you get it going.  Also, check your RN
configuration while you are looking around.
From: newton@monty.apana.org.au (Mark Newton)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: What is an AUDIT file for?
Organization: APANA South Australia - State mail hub
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 18:01:47 +1030

bob@snuffy.dracut.ma.us (Bob Smith) writes:
> receiving a message from my cleanup script advising me of the existance
> of an AUDIT file...  I've been merrily ignoring it, but I'm curious --
> what are the conditions that cause this files creation?  It always empty,
> no there are no hints in it to tell me what it's for...

The AUDIT file is created when a remote uucico process sets a -x flag
to turn on debugging.  All the debug messages from your end go into 
the AUDIT file instead of into your LOGFILE.

   - mark

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From: pbh@prjup.mi.org (Patrick B. Haggood)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Not receiving news via uucp; log file to check?
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 21:20:31 EST
News-Software: FSUUCP 1.3r1
X-pizza-toppings: extra cheese and mushrooms
X-gripe: ignorance and hate
Reply-To: pbh@prjup.mi.org (Patrick B. Haggood)
Distribution: world
Organization: Project: Jupiter Scientific Software

I'm a new uucp site, still trying out UUPC/extended and
FSUUCP.  I've been getting mail okay for about two
weeks, but I'm still not receiving news.  My host
has set up my sys file so that I am supposed to receive
news, but each time I examime the logs from uuxqt I see
many references to rmail but no requests to run rnews.
UUPC's info about rnews is kinda sketchy, and FSUUCP
refers me to the non-existant man file rnews.

If I wanted to be absolutely sure that my host is not
sending an rnews command, which log file should
I look in for each of FSUUCP and UUPC/extended?
Being still in test I still run both in debug level 9.

Thanks in advance for your help.

(BTW if this works, I know I'm able to post okay, I'm
sending this with FSUUCP's postnews).

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From: costello@muikku.pulp.nullnet.fi (Antti J{rvinen)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Proto to use with  HDB
Keywords: HDB, proto
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:19:22 GMT
Organization: Costellobox, Nullnetin virallinen puimakone, Finland
Article-I.D.: muikku.1201


	This may be RTFM but my man pages referring to uucp are missing.
	I'm transferring mail and news with HDBuucp to a ms-dos
	system using waffle.  HDB uses g-protocol to do the
	transfer. G-protocol is kinda slow and I'd like to know
	if waffle and HDB could use a more intelligent protocol
	for this. How do I change that protocol? Is there
	command-line arguments for uucico or can I configure the
	uucico somehow? I have already tried to place a letter
	referring to preferred protocol the Systems-file to 
	the beginning of the field where baud-rate is set ie. I have
	a following line in Systems-file:

	system-name Any ACU f9600 <phone> "" \r Welcome uucp\r 
 
	Where 'f' in the beginning of 9600 states that I would like
	to use f-protocol. This doesn't work, uucico refuses to
	call. What can I do?

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Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: My new domain name -- what do I do with it?
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:33:46 GMT

MF> == Michael Faurot <mfaurot@bogart.uucp>

 MF> What I'm not quite clear on is connectivity requirements between my
 MF> site and the nameserver.  Is it mandatory to have a direct UUCP link
 MF> between my site and the site providing name service, or can an
 MF> indirect link be used?

 MF> For example this obviously would work:

 MF> 	mysite!nameserver

 MF> But would this be acceptable (assume hops don't mind the traffic):

 MF> 	mysite!othersite!nameserver

You need not have *any* connectivity to the nameservers, as long as you
have some way of getting updates to them (carrier pigeon, sneakernet, etc).
All the nameservers do is answer queries about the domain.

You do need connectivity to your listed MX (Mail eXchanger) sites, because
they're the sites that people will be sending your mail to.

Example:

bogart.actors.org. IN MX 50 megavax.bigu.edu.

(Assume bogart and megavax are their UUCP names)

megavax's sendmail might change mail for user@bogart.actors.org into
nearsite!farther!bogart!user, and pass it off over UUCP.

The only requirement for an MX is that they know how to get mail to the
site being MXed for.  Exactly how they do it is not at issue, because it's
"outside the DNS".  (Printing out the mail and delivering it via carrier
pigeon, for example.)

So to answer the question you didn't ask but probably meant to, yes, you
can have mxsite!othersite!yoursite!user as long as othersite doesn't mind.
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From: trier@slc6.ins.cwru.edu (Stephen C. Trier)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: My new domain name -- what do I do with it?
Date: 16 Dec 1992 19:47:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc6.ins.cwru.edu

In article <1992Dec15.145739.1359@bogart.uucp> mfaurot@bogart.uucp (Michael Faurot) writes:
>What I'm not quite clear on is connectivity requirements between my
>site and the nameserver.  Is it mandatory to have a direct UUCP link
>between my site and the site providing name service, or can an
>indirect link be used?

You need a link to a site somewhere on the Internet.  It does not have
to be the name server.  For example, I have a site seldon.clv.oh.us.
A number of name servers are authoritative for that name, of which none
are even in the same state as me.

The DNS entry for seldon is an "MX", Mail Exchanger, record, which is
simply a form of indirection that says "send mail for this name to host
xxx".  Host xxx is assumed to know what to do with mail meant for that
name.  In my case, xxx is skybridge.scl.cwru.edu, which knows that mail
for seldon.clv.oh.us should be queued for pickup by its UUCP neighbor,
seldon.

Thus, mail sent from anywhere on the Internet to stephen@seldon.clv.oh.us
first gets forwarded to skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (because of the MX record),
then to seldon (because skybridge knows I'm a UUCP neighbor).

It is possible for the mail exchanger host to forward it by any method you
like (carrier pigeon, anyone?), since the MX record makes no promise of
_how_ mail is delivered.  It just assumes it will get through.

Indirect service from a mail exchanger is possible, though undesirable.
For example, skybridge _could_ rewrite the address x@seldon.clv.oh.us to,
say, wariat!brauhaus!seldon!x, and forward it on its way.  This approach,
however, tends to rather fragile because any sort of address rewriting in
the middle sites can cause mail routing loops.  Should that happen,
suddenly the domain name will become a liability since it will cause your
mail to disappear into loops rather than get delivered.

Indirect service was forbidden for .US hosts when I got my domain name, and
may still be for all I know.  It is not forbidden in the other domains, but
it is still something to think very carefully about.  Generally, you would
be better off finding a mail exchanger you can call directly.

-- 
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From: mfaurot@bogart.uucp (Michael Faurot)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
Subject: Re: My new domain name -- what do I do with it?
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:57:39 GMT
Organization: ism:c:m/xo
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol) writes:
: Carlos Dominguez (carlos@infoserv.com) wrote:
: : ... How did you apply for a domain...
: : pardon the FAQ-like question but I was curious..
: 
: To register in the .US domain as John Boggs did, and get a domain in the
: format
: 
: <sitename>.<city>.<state>.US
: 
: send mail to us-domain-request@isi.edu.  This is free.
: 
: To register in another domain such as .com or .org, you can:
: 
: 1) Send $50 to UUNET and have them set up name servers for you. E-mail
:    info@uunet.uu.net.
: 
: 2) Find your own nameservers - you will need one Internet-connected system
:    to act as a primary name server, one as a backup name server (these 
:    computers give pointers to your machine for other computers on the 
:    Internet), and a machine to act as a forwarder from the Internet (which
:    may be the same computer acting as one of the name servers.) Send mail
:    to hostmaster@nic.ddn.mil for a registration form. Registering through
:    the NIC (Network Information Center) is free, and it's what I did to get
:    tiny.com's domain. It is also pretty quick (expect a week or two turnaround
:    on your request).
: 

I think I understand the basic ideas behind what's going on with
getting a host on the Internet to act as a nameserver for you.  This
way DNS look-ups can actually get answered, etc.

What I'm not quite clear on is connectivity requirements between my
site and the nameserver.  Is it mandatory to have a direct UUCP link
between my site and the site providing name service, or can an
indirect link be used?

For example this obviously would work:

	mysite!nameserver


But would this be acceptable (assume hops don't mind the traffic):

	mysite!othersite!nameserver

-- 

+--------------------+-------------------------------------------------------+
|   Michael Faurot   | Domain: mfaurot@bogart.UUCP		             |
|   ------- ------   | UUCP:   ...{irscscm|mimsy}!bogart!mfaurot             |
+--------------------+-------------------------------------------------------+
Newsgroups: comp.mail.uucp
From: sjsobol@wariat.org (Steven J. Sobol)
Subject: Re: My new domain name -- what do I do with it?
Organization: APK Public Access Unix * Cleveland, OH
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:24:10 GMT

Carlos Dominguez (carlos@infoserv.com) wrote:
: ... How did you apply for a domain...
: pardon the FAQ-like question but I was curious..

To register in the .US domain as John Boggs did, and get a domain in the
format

<sitename>.<city>.<state>.US

send mail to us-domain-request@isi.edu.  This is free.

To register in another domain such as .com or .org, you can:

1) Send $50 to UUNET and have them set up name servers for you. E-mail
   info@uunet.uu.net.

2) Find your own nameservers - you will need one Internet-connected system
   to act as a primary name server, one as a backup name server (these 
   computers give pointers to your machine for other computers on the 
   Internet), and a machine to act as a forwarder from the Internet (which
   may be the same computer acting as one of the name servers.) Send mail
   to hostmaster@nic.ddn.mil for a registration form. Registering through
   the NIC (Network Information Center) is free, and it's what I did to get
   tiny.com's domain. It is also pretty quick (expect a week or two turnaround
   on your request).

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log in to BBS and download file 'user.new' from file area 2.

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Xref: sparky comp.mail.mime:44 gnu.emacs.help:5135
From: hakan@Sweden.Prime.COM (Hakan Sjogren)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime,gnu.emacs.help
Subject: 8bitEMACS MIME and/or Mule?
Date: 20 Dec 92 13:59:57 GMT
Organization: Computervision Sweden

I am told that Emacs19 might be based on Mule to support
European and Asian languages.

Is Mule compatible with MIME?

reply by mail, I will summarize

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From: ddj+@cs.cmu.edu (Doug DeJulio)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime
Subject: Re: X.400 and multimedia mail
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:57:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.Bz9B07.8Bo.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

In article <1gg2qjINN2df@chnews.intel.com> bhoughto@sedona.intel.com (Blair P. Houghton) writes:
>RFC 1341 explicitly cites a desire to use only characters
>which appear in all[*] extant literal standards.  The set
>[A-Za-z0-9+/] (the brackets aren't included) appears just
>about everywhere.
[...]
>[*] almost all? I don't remember any exceptions.

What about BAUDOT?
How about the standard APL character set?
Neither of these has lower case if my memory serves.
-- 
Doug DeJulio
ddj+@cmu.edu
From: jack@ccsf.caltech.edu (Jack Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.mail.mime
Subject: Re: X.400 and multimedia mail
Date: 11 Dec 1992 18:15:54 GMT
Organization: CCSF Caltech, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: laguna.ccsf.caltech.edu

As I understand, the main reason for MIME to use base64 encoding (as
opposed to uuencode, 8bit transparent, XDR, or BER ) was that they
needed an encoded scheme that would remain uncorrupted accross all
platforms and architectures and existing mailers.  Apparently this is
a real problem with IBM VM/CMS machines.  base64 encoding was the only
thing that would survive these machines.  Hopefully these machines
will go away some day and then we can use a more reasonable encoding
mechanism.

---Jack

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