HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: drcc@chuma.ec.usf.edu. (David Cabana (MTH))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Free game:  Balance of Power, or The Pawn
Date: 20 Jan 93 02:25:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of South Florida, College of Arts & Sciences

I would like some help, and am willing to try to make it worth your
time to help me.  I want the binary (executable) code for the ST
version of a Scheme implementation called Scm.  I know where to ftp
the C source code for Scm, but I do not have a C compiler on my ST
(nor do I want one).  The Scm package includes a makefile for 
compiling Scm using the GNU compiler on the ST.  I would like someone
to ftp the Scm package, compile it, arc it, uuencode it, and mail it
to me.  In return I will send  that person, via 1st class US mail,
their choice of two games, either Balance of Power (by Mindscape)
or The Pawn (by Rainbird).  Both of these games are paid-for, complete
in original boxes, with manuals, etc.  I only need one copy of Scm, so this
offer is made on a first come, first served basis.  Drop me a line...

A few words about Scm, straight from comp.lang.scheme:

  Scm conforms to Revised^4 Report on the Algorithmic Language Scheme
  and the IEEE P1178 specification.  Scm is written in C and runs under
  Amiga, Atari-ST, MacOS, MS-DOS, OS/2, NOS/VE, VMS, Unix and similar
  systems.  ASCII and EBCDIC are supported.

  SCM can be obtained via FTP (detailed instructions follow) from:
  altdorf.ai.mit.edu:archive/scm/scm4b2.tar.Z
  prep.ai.mit.edu:pub/gnu/jacal/scm4b2.tar.Z
  nexus.yorku.ca:pub/scheme/new/scm4b2.tar.Z

  ftp altdorf.ai.mit.edu [18.43.0.246] (anonymous)
  bin
  cd archive/scm
  get scm4b2.tar.Z
                    or
  ftp prep.ai.mit.edu (anonymous)
  bin
  cd pub/gnu/jacal
  get scm4b2.tar.Z

  `scm4b2.tar.Z' is a compressed tar file of the C code distribution.

This is a nice package.  So far as I know it is not available on the
Atari archive at umich, though it ought to be.

			drcc@chuma.csc.usf.edu
From: brymastr@eng.umd.edu (Bryan Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Falcon ad sighted, anyone?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 21:49:19 GMT
Organization: Project GLUE, University of Maryland, College Park, MD
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: coffee.eng.umd.edu

Well, people have seen Falcon write-ups in magazines, but has
anyone seen an Ad for the Falcon anywhere?  I'd like to see
what Atari has to say about it.  Thanks....
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: ADVOCACY: More prices, prices, prices
From: rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (Ryan 'Gozar' Collins)
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:41:23 -0500
Organization: Miami University Academic Computer Service"

	Well, I just thought I would post some more prices. (I have the 
flyer in my hands now instead of going from memory)

	These are from Cincinnati's Micro Center Store. (I won't post a 
number, I don't want this to be to big of a advertisement :-)  Everything 
doesn't include a monitor, unless specified)

Macintosh prices:

	Mac LC II 4/80 	$1079 (with keyboard)
	Mac IIsi 5/80	$1449 (without Keyboard)

Intel Based: (MicroCenter didn't even advertise any 386 based systems 
		(except notebook computers))

	Entry Level System:
		486sx, 1 meg, 40 meg hd, gray-scale monitor, dos 5 (oohh!)
			$799

	Complete System:
		486sx, 2megs, 100 meg hd, vga monitor, Windows (ooohh!)
			$999

	486dx system:
		486dx, 4 megs, 100 meg hd, svga monitor, Windows, mouse
			$1499

	Accelerated Windows System:
		486sx, 4 megs, 100 meg hd, svga monitor, accelerated 
		graphics card
			$1399
		(for $200 more you can get this with a 486dx2 at 50Mhz)


I don't see with these prices that any company can ever successfully 
release a "non-standard" computer and have it succeed. Unless... it was 
backed by solid support and offered better value for the money.

(I just wanted to post solid numbers from something other than mail-order 
places)

Later.......

------======={{{{{{{{((((((Ryan 'Gozar' Collins))))))))}}}}}}}}=======--------
"You like Earth Jazz, she likes Klingon        \rlcollins@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu
opera, so you compromise, and listen to         \RC1DSANU@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu
Klingon opera." -Odo, Star Trek- Deep Space Nine \rcollins@apsvax.aps.muohio.edu
                                                  \  R.COLLINS1 on GEnie
	    ------======={{{{{{{{(((((())))))))}}}}}}}}=======-----  27-JAN-1993
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: apelled@cix.compulink.co.uk (Adam Pelled)
Subject: Re: Julian Reschke involved with MultiTOS d
Reply-To: apelled@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:13:00 +0000


In article <1j663dINNi03@obelix.uni-muenster.de>, julian@math.uni-muenster.de (Julian F. Reschke) writes:
>In article 18003@convex.com, rosenkra@convex.com (William Rosenkranz) writes:
>> In article <C0su2s.41E@sci.kun.nl> sanders@sci.kun.nl (Sander Stoks) writes:
>> >Boy, am I looking forward to the Falcon Profibuch!
>> 
>> will this be available in english?
>
>Probably not, because currently there are not enough possible customers to justify
>the translation costs (more than 1500 pages of technical text -> expensive!).

    i'm not so sure. There are a lot of English speaking countries; Britain
and the States. i would think that there would be sufficient demand to make
it worth somebodies while.

    Adam.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: mfolivo@sactoh0.sac.ca.us (Mark Newton-John)
Subject: Re: Jaguar
Organization: Sacramento Public Access Unix
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 08:18:35 GMT


The upcoming Atari Jaguar is being produced by Atari Corp.

Atari Games handles the arcade games, and software through Tengen.

Atari Corp and Atari Games are separate companies from the old
Atari Inc.


-- 
mfolivo@sactoh0.SAC.CA.US   SAC-UNIX (916) 649-0161
The Good Guys!		We know our stuff
Audi			The Alternate Route
Atari			Power without the Price
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: hitt@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Daniel Hitt)
Subject: where is the FAQ for Falcon
Keywords: Falcon, FAQ
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:35:09 GMT

Can someone please give me a pointer to where the FAQ is for the
Falcon?

dan
From: lehmann@cs.tamu.edu (Mark A Lehmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: All these wars...
Date: 22 Jan 1993 05:27:47 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
NNTP-Posting-Host: solar.tamu.edu

>Oh come on Bob, do you really think that this would increase the 
>percentage of INFORMATIVE postings in this newsgroup? This discussion
>has been going on for SO LONG, it's leading nowhere! If you don't like
>Atari Corp., and if you think we have to pay for that, please do some
>people a favour and buy a PC and then start whining in comp.sys.ibmpc
>about your "Atari trauma"...

Does anyone think that maybe Richard Covert simply moved and changed his
E-mail name?  :->

Please don't respond to this.  I don't mean to extend this topic any further
that I already have.
--
Mark Lehmann                      Senior Texas A&M University
lehmann@cs.tamu.edu
From: ph9991_imm@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Sprites, Hardware, Chips et al.
Date: 20 Jan 93 22:22:00 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

Cherborth@semprini.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Chris Herborth) writes:
> In <1993Jan18.140856.644@rivers>, ph9991_imm@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:
>> What happened to the good ole' days of the C64/128's when you could buy ONE
>> reference manual for the machine and you could use it to totally rebuild an
>> old C64, or construct one from scratch? And they didn't withhold anything.
>> (none of this "for further information consult..." bulls**t)
> 
> Well, the world moved on, and personal computers got powerful...

	Well, yea, sure, but there's a difference between these sources being
_difficult_ to get and IMPOSSIBLE to get. and yes, I've talked to many people
and have sent many letters to the *nice* people in Sunnyvale, and THEY can't
get me that kind of technical stuff!

>> BTW... The revised edition manual that comes with Mark Williams C also has
>> NO INFORMATION on hardware sprites. Damn! (though it did help alot with my
>> bound VDI and AES routines :)
> 
> Uh, there's no such thing as a hardware sprite on an ST...  You'll need
> a C-64, Atari 8-bit or Amiga for that.

	My apologies. I guess when "personal computers get powerful" a few
sacrifices are made to benefit the whole machine.

Larry I.
--
larry.o.imm@uwrf.edu
From: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz (Steve Wells)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: Falcons made in Iraq?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 04:39:21 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: wells_s@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

> One question to the people who have claimed the Falcon is being produced
> Iraq:  If this is true, then how do they get past the total trade embarg
> placed on Iraq by the United Nations?
> 
> Methinks they're not being made there...
> 
> Scott

It would seem *very* unlikely!

I'm 99.9% sure they aren't!  Besides, think of the huge shipping &
transport costs that would be involved! 8-)



  Contrary to popular belief, money IS everything!       |||        
  To cause a catastrophic disaster, you need a computer! ||| TARI   
  If several things can go wrong, the one that will     / | \       
  cause the most damage, happens first!          At least it goes!  
WELLS_S@KOSMOS.WCC.GOVT.NZ
From: jhenders@jonh.wimsey.bc.ca (John Henders)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Distribution: tp
Organization:  One of these days for sure
X-News: HERMES MMAIL 1.10 Rev. Dec 15 1992
Subject: Re: Amiga Rules
Keywords: falcon
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 15:14:50 -0800
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Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

In <C15Fp5.K5z@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> odonneln@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Nicholas Odonnell) writes:

>All you Atari owners should dump 'em and buy an Amiga 1200 today.

	You may as well go away. We're busy with our own flame wars at the
moment. The only time we bother with Amiga flame wars is when we're
extremely bored. Besides, who'd want another computer that's only
slightly behind Atari in it's race into oblivion.


-- 
		 John Henders
		 Vancouver,BC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: nino@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Marinos Yannikos)
Subject: Re: ADVOCACY: Re: PC VS ST
Organization: TU Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 13:15:29 GMT

alrashi@ecf.toronto.edu (AL RASHID SHAHIR) writes:
[...]
: >He meant a 8086. Are you dense, or what?
: 
: Hey are you a jerk, or what? I didn't know whether he meant 8086, 8088, 80286
: or that he really thought there was a 80086.

You forgot the 80186... :)

[...]
: >How many applications currently use it? How many applications will
: >potentially use it? What use is a DSP in a word processor?
: >
: How many applications have you currently used? How would I know how many
: will use it? What use is a 486 running at 50 Mhz when you're word processing?

Well, you need it if you're word-processing under Windows! :)

-MY

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: andyh@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Andy Holyer)
Subject: Request for info: Write On! fonts.
Keywords: gdos font write on
Organization: University of Sussex
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 12:29:09 GMT

My current late-night project is producing a Cyrillic font for the ST
(since I can't read my own handwriting in cyrillic, and I'm tired of getting
my russian homeworks back covered in red ink :-)

Since I'm poor :-) this has to all be done on freely available tools.

I've used GemFed to make up a cyrillic GDOS font based on 12-point Athens,
and fortuitously discovered that the copy of Write On which I got on an
ST Format Cover disk understands .FNT files. But I need more details:

By what ratio should I rescale the font for it to come out correctly on
a 9-pin printer (an Citizen to be exact, but it's Epson-complete)?
I undestand that I'll have to do some tweaking after that, but right now
I can't get the basic rescaling right.

What are WO's other <fontname>.* files for? I'm guessing that there's a
"this font in italics" one, and (?) a proportional widths file, etc, etc.
Without adequate documentation I can't add these for my font.

How does he keyboard remapping file work? I've found the thing, but I don't
feel confident enough to fiddle unduly. It would be nice to have a couple
of key maps, say one for the real russian keyboard and one for yazerty...

I guess a lot of this stuff is in some FAQ somewhere.

Please send replies to me and I'll summarise.

Needless to say, I'll post the final font.

Thanks in advance.


-- 
&ndy Holyer, School of Cognitive and     |"In the beginning, there was
Computing Studies, University of Sussex, |  nothing, which exploded."
JANET: andyh@cogs.sussex.ac.uk           |   - Terry Pratchett
From: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: PC Bigotrynex
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:20:29 GMT
Reply-To: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson, TX
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

John Hutchinson writes:
>
>We suffer flame-wars evidently because so many people are emotionally insecure
>and need constant assurances that the choices they make in life are, in fact,
>"good" ones.  This little quirk is commonly known as "cognitive dissonance"
>as is quite common among younger, less mature individuals who have not yet
>learned how to cope with their own feelings, much less coexist with others. 

I've noticed that all the snippets of wisdom accumulated over the millenia,
all the valuable lessons people have learned time and time again, have been
completely forgotten by the vast majority of computerphiles.  It is completely
amazing to me that so many people are running around under the impression that
people should be judged by the type of computer they own or language they
choose to program in--and that money _can_ buy happiness and bigger _is_
always better.  I have run into many people who flagrantly brag that they
own a 66 MHz 486.  That really is pathetic when you stop and think about it.

Hey, this stuff is supposed to be fun.
  
--
James Hague   
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
From: michael.smith@f842.n800.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (michael smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: STalker Zmodem downloads
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au
Date: 23 Jan 93 10:57:30 GMT

Original to: bgilbert@cs.washington.edu
In a message of <17 Jan 93 01:03:53>, bgilbert@cs.washington.edu (3:713/602)
writes:

 b> All this talk about STalker (which is great IMHO) has brought up the
 b> following question I've been wondering about : does STalker do
 b> Zmodem recovery?   Sometimes when a file is only partially tranferred
 b> it would be nice not to have to re-transfer the part I already have
 b> (I've done this before on an MS-DOS machine with Telix). 
 b> 
 b> I've set STalker to keep the aborted downloads, but does it ever
 b> recognize that part of the file is there and just start appending
 b> it?

Yes - it's a selectable option, as it should be 8)

 b> Regards,

\`miff`                                                       /|\

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: Who... Me? <dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: WANTED: Used Hard Drive (& other stuff)
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 01:13:53 GMT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

I've recently purchased an unmodified 1040 STf for my father and younger 
sisters to use as a word-processor and so forth. It currently has TOS 1.0, and 
I would like to purchase a small, preferrably used, hard drive for this 
computer (it currently has only 1 double-sided drive). My father is unwilling 
to shell out much cash or I would suggest a new/larger drive. If anyone has a 
used drive for sale, please let me know what you would want for it.

also: I installed WordUp 3.0, and have it working fairly well. Unfortunately, 
in the process of moving at some point in the past I have misplaced the manual.
If anyone has WordUp 3.0 for sale my father would be happy to purchase it 
(including the manual). Since the company is now out of business I have also 
had no luck in finding laser-printer drivers for this program (TurboJet). If 
anyone has TurboJet 2.0 or newer for sale, or knows where I can purchase this, 
please let me know...

Finally: This machine sometimes runs into the "40 folder bug". Unfortunately, 
FoldrXXX.prg *CRASHES* the machine upon loading! This is very annoying! What 
other options do I have?

Finally Finally: If anyone has a memory upgrade or newer ROMS that would work 
in this machine and wants to get rid of them tell me the price you would ask 
and I'll see what he says.

Thanks!
---------------------------------------------------------------------->
|-! -David Butler- dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu

  |||     //   "This is not a novel to be tossed away lightly;
 / | \  \//     it should be thrown with great force."         -Dorothy Parker
From: horj@vax5.cit.cornell.edu (Eric Scheirer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st,cornell.marketplace
Subject: Atari Mega ST2 (complete system) for sale
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:07:38 EST
Distribution: comp,cornell
Organization: Cornell University

I've decided to go the way of the PC rather than of the Atari ST; thus, I'm
putting all my ST stuff up for sale.  This is a nice system for playing games
and doing MIDI stuff on -- ST is the system of choice for many computer 
musicians.  For serious use, you'd probably want to add an external hard disk.

I'd prefer to sell all this together, but good offers for the components will
be considered.

PRICE : $1,200 or best offer for the whole shebang:
Atari Mega ST2 -- 2 Meg RAM, single floppy (TOS in ROM)
Atari SM-124 hi-res mono monitor
Atari SC-1224 lo- and medium-res color monitor
mouse & keyboard
2 joysticks (one *very* nice Wico pistol grip, one TAC-2)
Casio CZ-1000 programmable synth (8-channel polyphony; *not* velocity sens.)

Software:
Pipe Dream	Bard's Tale			AC/Fortran
Oids		Blockbuster			Captain Blood
Populous	Wargame Construction Set	Marble Madness
Empire		Dungeon Master			Barbarian
Music Studio	Beckemeyer Programmer's Toolkit (csh, make)

All software has original disks, code wheels, and not much else.

All necessary cables are included, of course, as well as two 6' MIDI cables.

Respond via e-mail (HORJ@vax5.cit.cornell.edu), and we can work from there.

-- 
Eric Scheirer -- Cornell University, Ithaca, NY -- (607) 253-2431
"I got remote control and a color TV; I don't change channels so they
 must've changed me." -- Billy Joel

Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: jarleb@athena.uio.no (Jarle Brinchmann)
Subject: Re: Cocktail recipe program for Atari ST?
Reply-To: jarleb@athena.uio.no (Jarle Brinchmann)
Organization: Institute for Theoretical Astrophysics
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 10:14:02 GMT


In article <H.ea.mOdfPOhSTm_@yonder.equinox.gen.nz>, craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore) writes:
|>From: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz (Craig Shore)
|>Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
|>Subject: Re: Cocktail recipe program for Atari ST?
|>Reply-To: craig@yonder.equinox.gen.nz
|>
|>In <1993Jan26.022129.27218@netcom.com>, Scott Hanson writes:
|>
|>>I have the above program and have corrupted one of the database files.
|>>I cannot find it at any ftp sites; does anyone know of a cocktail recipe
|>>program for the st?  I cannot remember the name, but chances are good it
|>>is the one I am using (or a decent substitute)  Many thanks, and
|>>regards.
|>
|>I think i've got it here somewhere... wasn't it on a coverdisk sometime?
|>
|> Craig.
|>

Yes it was, I think it was a couple of years ago. But the program has been 
on a.a.u.e, It was named cocktail.lzh, and I though it was in Applications/
Databases, but when I looked after, I couldn't find it anywhere under 
Applications, but a search with archie could be the thing :-)

				Jarle.


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From: neil@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Forsyth)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: IBM CORPORATE LOSS
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:25:54 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <C15nCD.F4@newcastle.ac.uk> Craig.Graham@newcastle.ac.uk
(Craig Graham) writes:
>I was most amused to hear on the Evening News (on the Radio), that IBM has just
>made the biggest corporate loss EVER in the history of corporate losses......

(With apologies to those who read this group for informative articles)

A friend of mine was told these 'facts' at his employee induction course with
a clone manufacturer.

	"IBM has so many employees worldwide that if they were all in one
	place and that place was called a country then it would be the fifth
	largest country in the world."

	"IBM has so much money in the bank that the interest alone can pay
	those peoples wages such that they could stop making computers
	tomorrow and still keep everyone in a job if they had a mind to."

I dunno how true these statements are but even if there is some truth in them
then I doubt that the financial loss will hurt them much.

+----------------------------------------------------------------------------+
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: nino@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Marinos Yannikos)
Subject: Re: Flaky monochrome display on Mega STE
Organization: TU Wien, Vienna, Austria
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 12:35:37 GMT

gt1448b@prism.gatech.EDU (David P. Forrai) writes:
:[...]  So I assume it is not the
: monitor but the Mega STE.  Is this a known bug in the Mega STE?

This is the 'Shifter-bug', a lot of STe's have it, and it can be
fixed by replacing the shifter chip...

-MY
From: u0h36@keele.ac.uk (Adam Turnbull)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
Subject: Re: floptical advice please!
Date: 25 Jan 93 15:33:10 GMT
Organization: Keele University, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

I finally made my choice. Things turned out a little more expensive than
I had first hoped, but I'll soon be getting a 85mb Data Pulse + drive
(cost just under #400). Speed was very important, and I didn't really
want to find myself running out of space, so 40/50 meg drives were out
too (I couldn't get hold of them if I'd have wanted too). Of course,
there's bound to be more problems in actually getting it... the path to
hard drive ownership has not been smooth for me so far!

Thanks for the info folks,
	Adam
Newsgroups: comp.sys.atari.st
From: grier@bnr.ca (Brian Grier)
Subject: Re: Spectre GCR: Knowing What To Do
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:50:25 GMT
Organization: Bell Northern Research

> 4. Spectre Disks/Mac Disks and the Transverter.

> To format a Spectre disk you can use the formatter in the Spectre main menu
> or use DC Format using the following settings:
> 9 Sectors per track, 80 sectors, seek rate of 2 ms (2ms is important!).

> - Note: The transverter will NOT read HFS (Mac) disks or HFS (mac) hard
> drives. Only regular Spectre disks. Kind of cheesy, huh? Well, I think so
> too. Wait until the next version. BTW, I've heard Mac See has plenty of
> bugs. Whatch out.

Another neat trick that works is format a small partition, under 5 meg,
of your HD as an MFS( not HFS ) partition. Transverter can use this HD
partition as well as the 400k Spectre format floppy. This turns the
tranverter into something really usefull.

Brian, WS1S
Bell Northern Research
Research Triangle Park, NC