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Subject: Re: Chart 12.6 (English)
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Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 21:37:32 +0000


In article <1992Dec6.102231.16303@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> 91066702@cphkvx.cphk.hk writes:

>BTW, many new albulmns are released this week, George Lam's new albulmn...
>arr... forgot the name, but it is in a nice box, white, and with half of Lam's
>face as cover, name of it is somewhat like "hope".
imagine going in the local store in hong ong and saying can I have the record that has a white
sleeve, with half a face on it, and has somthing to do with hope!!!

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From: bhchan@soda.berkeley.edu (Billy H. Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Re: Forged Account Name
Date: 17 Dec 92 10:36:23 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu


 In article <eln235s.724582591@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au> eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Humphrey Hui) writes:
 >Some people from PRC even said it was natrual and around 30% of the 
 >postings used forged account name. [I don't know what groups he reads, but
 >you can have your wild guess.]
Using a real account here.... but yeah, there are many who post from
a fake account (forged posting). 

 >Anyway, does anyone out there have such experienced on forged account?
I get forged e-mails (usually hatemails and insulting stuff) all the
time.  Don't have any idea who is doing it to me, but my philosophy is,
if it's forged, it's not worth reading/worrying-about.  (esp if it's
a flame-mail/insult/etc.etc.etc.)

 >BTW, what kind of mentality is that to used a forged account name to
 >post/mail something could be insulting? Is it usual for the computer
 >administration to ban such forging?
Mentality: Insecure.  Doesn't want the person he/she is insulting to
	know who he/she really is.  Hozer (to use a computerese term) 
Admin's response: Should be banned, but how do you catch the person?
	There are many sneaky ways around in internet...
>Humphrey Hui                      :  Have you taken a risk lately?
					^^^
					Nope, should I?
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: lam@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Ken Lam)
Subject: HK stock market.  Any way to keep track of this thru the Internet?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:39:52 GMT

Topic says it all.

Thanks.

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.hongkong:16224 soc.culture.china:32549
From: mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: NEWS: Survey Article of Chinese Economy
Date: 14 Dec 92 03:18:35 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.hongkong

mte152s@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:

Thanks for posting this article ! I just hope that many
arraogant Hongkies will read this without prejudices and with
their heads ' sticking OUT of the colonial skirts'. 

>China's economic performance in the 14 years since then has brought about one
>of the biggest improvements in human welfare at any time. Real GNP has grown by

Did the author make a mistake ? Shouldn't it be Honkong ? 
I tell you many of the arrogant attitudes of the Hongkies are 
just despicable as can be seen from the numerous posting in this
group. Many of them idolise anything of 'colonial' connotation, but
despise the Chinese from mainland. They think the mainland Chinese
are ignorant, narrow minded, 'antique' in thinking (as Lin Can't put
it); on the other hand, by hiding under the 'colonial skirts', they
think they know everything in this world, they think they are
also superior like their 'colonial masters'. One even claims that
he travelled more than me - just because he has been to Britian -
what a ludicrous & humbug statement ! 

I may dissappoint many of you who flamed me assuming that I am
from China. No. I am not . I step into this group because I
haven't seen any body as arrogant & shamless as most of the
Hongkies. ( I am not saying all people from Honkong are like that,
but there are enough of you to give Hongkong the bad name.)

Perhaps you would have treated me differently if I have made myself
known earlier eh ? Shame on you arrogant Hongkies !

Ps. Anyone (except British I think) who has been to Hongkong 
would agree that they are the most rude & arrogant people
in this world (- at least to those who look like Chinese to them.)
From: eng10185@nusunix1.nus.sg (FONG FU KIN)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Movies ( Chinese or English )
Date: 17 Dec 92 09:13:03 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


      
This year 1992 is coming to an end. This is the time to have a
conclusion of the movies shown in 1992. Pls send here the 'Best 5 / 10
Movies' you like as well as your comments on them. 
In this year, I like ' Shum Sai Goon ' (sorry i don't know the English
title) the most. 

You can also send the list of Best Popsongs here or the worst as well.

Freddie
e-mail : eng10185@nusunix.nus.sg

(* For those ex-Singapore Hongkong Students: pls give me some response.
	As you know, Life is boring here! ) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: cfs2b@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Chun Fai Szeto)
Subject: Re: Japanese Cartoon gif ftp site?
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:52:31 GMT

<AUPCK@ASUACAD.BITNET> writes:
> HI!   Does anyone know any FTP site carry Japanese cartoon with Anonymous
> access? If so, please post the address, Thanks very much and have a nice
> Christmas Holiday.

	As I know, there is two FTP sites have Japanese stuff. Their addr.
are as follows:

	piggy.ucsb.edu   [128.111.72.50] 
	network.ucsb.edu [128.54.16.3]

	Hope those are the sites you are looking for.




Chun
cfs2b@Virginia.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: 91278446@cphkvx.cphk.hk
Subject: MERRY X'MAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:48:11 GMT

Hello..everyone seeing SCHK..:):):)


I am a Hong Kong students..I would like to borrow this place to say 
    
                       
"MERRY CHRISTMAS AND HAPPY NEW YEAR"
          

to all of you including those have sent me messages.


Michael Lai
91278446@CPHKVX.BITNET
91278446@CPHKVX.CPHK.HK


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: eln235s@lindblat.cc.monash.edu.au (Humphrey Hui)
Subject: Rights vs Mercy (Was: My dismay (Chris Patten))
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 11:31:29 GMT

yucao001@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Yu Cao) writes:

>The freedom, not really demanded by people but given by CCP, is growing 
                                                ^^^^^
>little by little. An important observation is, in daily talking, ideaology 
>is no longer a topic, but in formal cases, everyone knows what to say or
>write. 2-3 years before June 4, under Zhao4 Zi3Yang2, there were a lot
>of in-depth articles critizing the government, the CCP, the culture, the 
>history. People were thinking actively. After June 4, as anyone can imagine,
>people were confused and kept absolute silent. My impression is, ordinary
>people gained during the past 15 years and they don't want to risk their
>little happiness. Compared with democracy, living standard is surely much
>more important for most people. 

That is one fact showing the importance of democracy. We actually don't
know when the next merciful guy is in power. 

Yes, I agree living standard is most important for a citizen; however, 
such prosperity can be taken away overnight unless there is a sensible 
legal system backed by a democratic political system.

>Religion is one facet among the whole spectrum. I personally know some 
>Christians, young or old, who joined the church in the past 2 or 3 years.
>Sounds to young people like me, joining the church or the CCP is purely
>personal. Young people join the CCP because they believe it's good for 
>there career, never because they want to pursue the communisim course.
>People join the church because they like the harmony, because their friends
>joined, because they're curious, because they're seeking a group of nice
>people to chat. The shadow of secrete police is not there. Some people may
>choose not to go to church because they're afaid that their boss may don't
>like it. This phenomenon is purely interpersonal relationship problem, not
>political.

Although I am a free thinker, I respect the reglion believers' rights to
worship. As you said, such rights is apparently hindered by the power of
their boss, I am just wandering if such "dis-respect" constitutes a
certain kind of discrimination.

BTW, I still occasionally heard of that foreign preacher got kick out; or
"unauthorized religion meeting" been cracked down. Although I can't tell
if they were really having a religion meetingi (at least in CCP's view),
I would suppose such action simply oppression to "free-thinking".

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From: ycao+@pitt.edu (Yousheng Cao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Watching CCTV (China TV) in US and Canada
Date: 14 Dec 92 02:40:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


    From Dec 13th, CCTV begins its North America broadcast via a satellite
For more information and s special equipment to receive CCTV. CAll
(412)621-4214 Fax(412)687-4663 or Write to H & H, 3333 Juliet St., Pittsburgh,
PA 15213 with a self-addressed envelop with 29 cents stamp.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: eng10187@nusunix1.nus.sg (LAM TAT FAI)
Subject: test
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 15:11:22 GMT


This is a test. Pls ignore.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Subject: data general
Reply-To: "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 11 Dec 92 19:31:00 EST

In article: <9234215.22942@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
   Subject: Data General
      From: mldw@mamura.ee.mu.oz.au (David Wo) writes:

>In article <103170#bu.edu> edwong@bu.edu (Edward Wong) writes:
>>I wonder if anyone know this company "Data General"?
>>
>  Yes, it used to make main frame computer. Now it moves on to workstation
>market. If you are thinking seriously of purchasing a DG workstation. Think
>long and hard because the operating system DG/UX (also known as "DoG UinX)
>and the linker is very buggy.

May I make a minor correction here:

Data General was a major player in Mini-Computer market in the
seventies, many of their 16-bit mini's were widely used in the
industrial process control systems, The "Nova" series and "Eclipse"
series mini-computers were also widely used in nuclear power stations
and university research establishments.

There were some "Nova" used in some particle accelerators in the 70's.

OEM's were able to buy DG's minis through "mail-order" in those days.

Somehow, Data General lost most of it's mini market, there was a quite
popular book "The soul of a machine" written by some DG engineers which
gave us a glimpse of the development of a mini computer. (I did not have
the chance to read that book.)

Data General had survived the 80's through some rough sailings.

In 1990, Data General staged a comeback with it's new RISC engineering
work station, which had won moderate success in some market segments.

How are they doing lately is beyond me.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: <juyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: looking_for_boyfriend
Keywords: looking_for_boyfriend
Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:47:50 -0500

In article <9235211.6209@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> leong@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Kee Hoe LEONG) writes:
>Hello:
> My name is Jenny Wong and i am an Australian Chinese (from Hong Kong).
> I am an Uni first year commerce student (1992). I study in Melbourne,vic.
> I am looking for a boyfriend age 23 or over. If anyone interested ,mail to
> wjenny@nyx.cs.du.edu ,tell me about your address(mail),e_mail address,
> age,height and occupation.
>
> with love,
> jenny Wong.
> _____________

	Did someone forget to log off her account?
From: fkai@icaen.uiowa.edu (Fan Kai)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: To NOrthern Louisiana U.
Keywords: e-mail
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:04:26 GMT
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Originator: fkai@l_cae10


Is there any people from NLU or NLSU?
I am looking for two of my friend who is studying there.
We did not contect for such a long time that all Iknow now about 
them are they're studying there.  So, If you are from NLSU, please 
send me a mail and if you know people name : AH LUNE or Cheung YU SAUN.

Thank you in advance.
From: Simon.S..Chan@f427.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Simon S. Chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: smoking
Date: 12 Dec 1992 11:23:13 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


 > In article <1992Dec4.000510.45370@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>
 > nephilim@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
 > ...
 > Even though it is a bad habit, I don't see why those smokers have to
 > quit.
 > You said why carry it on?  Because we, smokers, no matter we are heavy
 > smokers
 > or not, don't feel like quiting it.  Alright!  We got to die sooner or
 > later.
 > If you don't smoke, you may not die from lung cancer.  Hmmm, maybe heart
 > attrack or other disease.  Anyway, you have to die one way or the other.

Yeah!! I'm totally agree on this!! 8-)

Simon S. Chan  
 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: yuen@bhprtc.scpd.oz.au (Daniel Yuen)
Subject: Re: smoking
Organization: BHP Steel, Sheet & Coil, Research & Technology Centre
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 03:40:48 GMT

vince@digibd.com (Vince Mar) writes:

:Simon.S..Chan@f427.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Simon S. Chan) writes:
:
:> > Even though it is a bad habit, I don't see why those smokers have to
:> > quit.
:> > You said why carry it on?  Because we, smokers, no matter we are heavy
:> > smokers
:> > or not, don't feel like quiting it.  Alright!  We got to die sooner or
:> > later.
:> > If you don't smoke, you may not die from lung cancer.  Hmmm, maybe heart
:> > attrack or other disease.  Anyway, you have to die one way or the other.
:
:>Yeah!! I'm totally agree on this!! 8-)
:
:Do you ever think about second-hand smokers?  They may not want to die from
:the lung cancer.

I agree.  Unfortunately, the smokers could choose not to smoke, but the non-
smokers could not choose not to breathe!  Maybe the best solution is, as I
have suggested in my earlier post, to convert all smokers to 'snuffers'.

Cheers.

Daniel (yuen@bhprtc.scpd.au.oz)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: dwong@chopsuey.pico ( paganini's admirer )
Subject: Re: Is Taiwanese CHinese?
Reply-To: dwong@chopsuey.pico
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 00:58:29 GMT

Is Californian American?  Is Venezian or Sicilian Italian? ... The answers to these kind of questions are: depends!  However, don't be ashame of admitting you are 
Chinese descents.  Forget about your political and economical bias!


David Wong

a chinese who likes paganini!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: SHUMP@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090
Subject: Re: HELP
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 13:19:03 GMT
Organization: The University of Birmingham, United Kingdom

>> SHUMP@UK.AC.BHAM.IBM3090 wrote:
>>: Ladies and Gentlemen,
>>:
>>:           I am looking for the address, Fax, and e-mail of the Hong Kong
>>: University of Science and Technology.  It would be grateful if any of you
>>:
>>: can do me this favour.
>>:
>>:                                            Perry
>
>As what I know, the e-mail for the HKUST is @ustsu3.ust.hk
>I think it works!!
>
>                                     Lewis
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Dear sir,
         What I actually want is the email address or Fax no. of the
Electronic and Electrical Engineering Dept.  of HKUST.  ( any Professor
or Dr. 's email address will do.   Thank you.

                                             PERRY
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 16:40:37 EST
From: <LAMC@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: e-mail at HKU

Hi, I have a friend who is studying medicine at HKU. Does anyone know whether
he could have access to internet? I heard that CU had recently granted e-mail
access to all students. So both CU and UST students have access to e-mail.
What about HKU? If HKU has already done the same, is there a postmaster address
or mail server address that I could find out my friend's account?


Clement
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,talk.politics.china
From: y70q@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (LAM)
Subject: Merry Christmas to Linda
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Distribution: soc.culture.hongkong
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:26:29 GMT

I missed the address of my friend. Her name is called Linda.
She is studying accounting in Australia. Since I cannot send
a Christmas card to her, I can only post a message here to
say 'Merry Christmas' to her.

If you know anyone who is called Linda and is studying accounting and
is probably graduating at this Christmas, please tell her that I
has posted her this message. Thanks.

My name is Benjamin. I am studying in Canada.

:->

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From: nhuang@cs.ulowell.edu (Bill Huang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,talk.politics.china
Subject: Re: Can we judge CCP based on the bad side only?
Date: 19 Dec 92 03:35:38 GMT
Organization: ZEN Self Constraint Institute of Technology

In article <WxS=Xp@engin.umich.edu> chyang@metaphor.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:

>> There's nothing like black and white in politics. That's what I learned from>> Marx and Lenin-:).

yes, i agree the theory, but who cares funcking marx and lenin?
this is a great world, true is not true anymore, winners decide who is true.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: hpang@engin.umich.edu (Ho Sun Pang)
Subject: Re: An answer to all responses
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 20:42:27 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor

In article <3468@peking.gdwb.oz.au> mlt@gdwb.oz.au (Mee Teng) writes:
>
>A true arrogant Hongkies attitude here ! As i expected , it does
>take long for you to show your true colour ! Typical of
>a person suffering from inferior complex under the colonial rule
>who try to boost his ego, his image ! What a degrading behaviour !!
>
>You really make me laugh, Lin Can't !
>
>Have you been to Canada, USA, Japan, Taiwan, Singapore, Malaysia
>Thailand ? You only have served the western nations, especially
>your master & you dare to talk so arrogantly. Shame on you !
>Knowing the good side & bad side of your 'master' is NOT
>knowing the entire world, please !!
>
>If I have the least arrogant attitude of yours, I would
>have said that before you were born I had known all that
>you claim to know now !
>


Dear Shit-worm (again):


     Just curious:  How much time did you spent licking Uncle Deng's foot?
I guess you missed the taste really bad lately.  Otherwise you won't defend
CCP so blindly to a point of nuts.

     You have a very bright future in China, young man, keep you licking job
well done!


- Louis Pang


P.S.  Since 95% of the articles posted by you are simply pointless, I'd do the
      same to you from now on to make you feel how annoying it is.

      The other 5% do have points, but are all void.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
From: william@natimuk.acci.com.au (William W. Lo)
Subject: Words of wisdom for the day 
Organization: IBM Australia/ACCI
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 05:22:21 GMT

	William's {answering machine} series continues...

	"Hello. This's a pre-recorded message, so, shut
up and listen!!! Ek-hum... In Japan, your hand can be used
like a real knife... <Sound effect: Heeeee-yah-YAH! Smashing
box of kleenex> But this method does't work with a phone
call... <Sound effect: Dial tone> See. <Music: Theme from
'First Blood'> Introducing the all new GINSU answering
machine!!! It cuts, it chops, slices, and dices your incoming
calls! Uhm...huh? How much would you pay? Don't answer, becuz
if you leave your name and number when you hear the tone, we
will throw in a return phone call absolutely free... <Beep>" 

---:p
	Uncle Jazzy (in Empty House)
### Welcome to William's Huggie Dictionary ###
misbug: /mis-buhg/ [MIT] n. An *unintended* property of a 
   program that turns out to be *useful*; something that shoulda 
   been {bug} but turns out to be a {feature}.  Usage: Pretty
   rare. Compare {green lightning}. See {feature creature}.
From: shiu@globey.cs.wisc.edu (Shiu K. Wong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: HK Radio Amateurs
Date: 17 Dec 92 04:02:03 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

Hi there,

I was wondering if there are any radio amateurs (or HAMs) in HK.
I know a lot of people love to build radio control model cars and
planes and there are a couple of related magazines.  But for ham
radio I haven't got any clue.  

If I had a Technician/General/Advanced/Extra licence from the FCC
in the USA, is that still valid in Hong Kong?  Thanks in advance
for any info.

S.K. Wong.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.hongkong