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From: acuna78@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Anime vs. Disney (Oooh!  Ominous!)
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:22:16 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Just as a matter of discussion, I think the only difference between anime
in general and Disney studios is that Disney endings are all basically the
same--in other words happy.  I think this is simply due to the fact that
Disney's target audience is children whereas anime studio's audience is
the otakus.  As far as good stories go, I happen to like alot of Disney's
movies & shorts with the exception of the aforementioned endings.  If 
Disney can get over their hang up about sad endings (maybe by distributing
an animated feature under their adult line <Touchstone ?>), animation in
the U.S. can extend its audience to adults as well as children.

Discussion anyone?

A fellow anime fanatic,
Day
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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: Video Girl AI wanted (REPOST)
Keywords: VGAI
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 19:04:02 GMT

In article <kennehra.715819307@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> kennehra@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Rich"TheMan"Kennehan) writes:
>
>[Description of "Cream Lemon" videos deleted]

Uhhh, next time CHANGE THE SUBJECT LINE...

You have no idea what you did to me...mixing Video Girl Ai and
Cream Lemon like that... :-) :-)

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From: cwagner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Christian Wagner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Sailor Moon episode 24
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:41:34 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep8.203355.2099@ntmtv> takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi) writes:
>-- Some more...
>   - Why does Sailor Mars have the difficult-to-fight-or-jump-in
>      high heels?

The same reason the BGC hardsuits do; it looks neat and the writers/animators
can ignore phyisics at will. :>
>
>   - Would *you* name your daughter "Bunny"?
>      [Closest translation I can come up with..."Usagi" = "rabbit"]

'Usagi' = Rabbit, as any anthromorphic fan could tell you.......

(I want to see Usagi Yojimbo animated one of these days, in Stan Sakai's 
original style.)

>(C'mon, you didn't *really* think that I wanted serious answers to those
> other questions now, did you?  :-))

Well, you got 'em anyway. :>

-- 
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                        and in the present tense?"
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From: gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Ryan P. Gavigan)
Subject: Re: Identify this anime.
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 05:58:29 GMT

In article <6783@vtserf.cc.vt.edu> ST102272@BROWNVM.brown.edu (Young Su) writes:
>Saw a music video using clips from an anime show with a bunny girl that
>follows this boy around wherever he goes.  The girl looks similar to the
>Daicon Bunny Girl, but not as cool looking.  She sports what seems to be
>real bunny ears, a pink girl's bikini and a fluffy tail.  Can anyone
>tell me what tell me the name of this series/give a general discription of
>the series?

What you've seen is a Cream Lemon episode (aka "pornime" 8-) called
"Notorius Bunny".  It's a one episode story.

ryan gavigan
gavigan@gn.ecn.purdue.edu

>
>BTW, seems like Godzilla also appears somewhere in the series.
>
>Last annoying question: Would anyone recommend watching it?
>
>- Y.E.S.
From: chiu@ucsee.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Cream Lemon...
Date: 7 Sep 1992 04:38:47 GMT
Organization: University of California Society of Electrical Engineers (UCSEE)
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In article <kennehra.715834374@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> kennehra@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Rich"TheMan"Kennehan) writes:

>WOW!!! You must be a cream lemon expert!

I think I've been insulted :}
From: fjohnson@furs.rutgers.edu (Floyd Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Things that make you go "Hmmm...." (Was Re: Anime, and He May Not)
Date: 11 Sep 92 13:57:22 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold) writes:

{mess deleted}

>Like US renditions.  Everyone bellyaches and moans about them (an Books
>Nippon their parent company) but no one tries to put together a united
>fandom that can make these guys know what they want?  If you want to know
>why the Japanese (in and outside of the U.S.) laugh openly at the Anime fandom
>it is because 90 percent of the fandom is just plain pathetic.  I mean at
>least Trekkies (or Trekkers, take your pick KNOW WHAT THEY WANT AND HAVE A
>COMMUNITY.

Hmmm... Anyone remember William Shatner's appearance on _Saturday
Night Live_, complete with a Trekkie convention sketch where he told
them to get real lives, or something like that?  (This, in turn,
reminds me of his SF literary venture-took his own advice :-).)

FLJ
From: odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Just watched AnimEigo's KOR, vol I.  Questions result.
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:31:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Sep12.173101.13527
Organization: The Stuffed Animal Trauma Team  (We're Trained Professionals)


  My favourite local video store (which, incidentally, has copies of nearly
  all legally available anime [as determined from the List regularly posted
  here] and works hard to keep it that way [the owner's an Otaku] -- great
  store, eh?) just got KOR in (along with Vampire Princess Miyu; Guess what
  I'm watching Sunday... ;) and I got to be the first to rent it.  I must say
  that after hearing month after month on the Net about what a great show
  this is I was pleasantly surprised it lived up to its billing!

  It did raise a few questions, though.  Don't worry; they're easy.

  How much KOR is there?  I know AnimEigo is doing five volumes, so that is
  presumably 10 episodes, but I assume (possibly erroneously) from the quality
  of the two episodes I have now seen that these are OAVs.  Was there a series
  too? (I suppose it goes without saying that there's Manga as well... ;)

  What does the picture on the cover of Volume One have to do with anything?
  It's very pretty (and the mermaid looks somewhat like Madoka, I s'pose), but
  that seems to be its only immediately obvious relevance.

  Thanks, all.
  -Iain Odlin, new Orange Roadie...
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anime, and He May Not
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:50:18 GMT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <BuExA5.LH2@agora.rain.com>, wyvern@agora.rain.com (Yup, me again) writes:
> In the beginning it was written:
> >last I checked, WWWA uses only female field operatives,

Wrong.  Check out:
- Calico(?) from episode 25.  A male 3WA operative, and a class AA jerk.
- That Chinese guy from the "And Then No One Played" OVA.

And as for other female TCs, what about Dierdre and Shasti from Vol. 2
of the comic?

Enrique Conty
WWWA, Damage Control Division
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From: clubzen.fidonet.org!shakala!jake
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: AE'93
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 14:40:23 PDT
Organization: Shakala - (Clan Zen Radio Network) Sunnyvale, CA 1-408-734-2289

Y'know, this whole Anime Expo '93 thing is beginning to sound like an old 
Rocky/Bullwinkle cartoon.
        "Lets come to an agreement with Mike Tatsugawa!"
        "Again? That trick never works!"
        "This time, for sure!"

        Wrong Hat, Mr. Medinnus. Mr. McLaughlin. Mr. Matsuzaki. 

        You'd think they'd learn; MT is not going to let anyone else 
infringe on his territory. His ego is WAY to big for it. He may profess 
to care about the fans, but it is becoming obvious (to me, anyway) that 
what he cares for is preserving his status as the bay Area's #1 Otaku. 
        "The busiest anime fan in the world"....maybe he could work less 
hard if he would do something RIGHT for a change?

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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: Various comments on anime (SAILOR MOON, NG LAMUNE & 40)
Reply-To: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:54:30 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.175558.26904@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach) writes:
>
>Anyway, after the meeting I cajoled John into showing me an episode each
>of SAILOR MOON and NG LAMUNE & 40.  My comments:
>
>- SAILOR MOON:  Frankly, I can't see why people like this show, unless
>  they're MST3King it to heck and back.  Formula writing, so-so animation
>  (except for the canned sequences).

Sounds like you're expecting some substance from Sailor Moon.  THIS
IS THE WRONG APPROACH TO TAKE!!!  If you're expecting some 'bite'
from this series, you'd be disappointed, 'cause there isn't any...

I like Sailor Moon because it's fun, fun, fun, FUN!

[Yes, the formula writing is part of the fun... :-)]

>- NG LAMUNE & 40:  The one I saw was an OVA retelling the events thus far
>  in the series.  Some hilarious stuff, this show merits further study.
>  But I disagree with Michael Studte:  this is funny, but Tex Avery it
>  isn't, not by a looong shot.

No comments here...I haven't seen any of this, though it sounds like it
might be something to look at later...

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 22:13:03 -0400 
From: Robert Everett Brunskill <rb6t+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Sorry! RobotJox! Help!

Sorry guys, I didn't mean to post the Robotjox notice here, I only ment
to put it on a hobbies board on andrew, whoops! I do agree that it is
not a GREAT movie, but read (at your own risk) the book THEN watch the
movie and you'll suddenly appreciate the movie (which is a scarry
thought). I did like the 'animation' and the technical aspects (no sound
in void, direct interface etc.). RobotJox is not a direct ripoff of
BattleTech simply because most of the parallels between RJ and BT (they
do exist) are things that existed in RJ before they were in BT either.
The movie was just released this summer but I read the book about three
years ago (before Lethal Heritage and some of the Warrior trilogy). I
think the movie existed then too (the back of the book has movie credits
and a picture of the robot on the front), in fact I've even seen brief
clips of RJ in a show called CinnemaShowcase. It is interesting to see
it at least once (preferably renting it). Some one asked me if the
'unreleased' version that I have has any bits that were cut from the
final release. I've never compared the two and I don't have the means to
(I'm at college without a VCR), have any of you done so?
Hopefully this entire post makes some sense because I wrote it at two
different times.

Rob Brunskill
"What's that watermellon doing there?" -New Jersey

PS: I know it's not japanese but see the Adventures of Buckaroo Banzai
Across the Eigth Dimention sometime.

PPS: Thank you for all of the replys to my SDC Orguss post. My local
store just got the first volume of the US Renditions translation of it
in today and I picked it up. Now to find a VCR.

PPPS: Does anyone have a translated script of Appleseed or the storyline
written out? My friend and I would really like to know what's going on.

PPPPS: One more thing I ... nevermind.
From: tchan@clyde.ics.uci.edu (Billy Chan)
Subject: Looking for MACROSS II scripts
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 8 Sep 92 01:04:06 GMT

Does anyone out there have the scripts for MACROSS II episodes 1 and 2 ?
Could you please e-mail me ?  I really appreciate it.
Thanks in advance.

--Billy
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From: bkeener@cs.ulowell.edu (Brian E. Keener)
Subject: Regarding "Huge" breasts in anime...
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:04:48 GMT

	Editorial comment to follow : WARNING!  The views, opinions, and
comments in the following post represent the views of one particular person
and are not meant to be the Tome of Anime As You Know It.  Thank you.

	About "huge" breasts in anime... I have two theories on why you don't
find them very often.  From the limited (financial constraints) amount of anime
I have seen, there is little to no over-stating of breasts in anime.  Why?  I
can't be sure, but here are some posibilities...

(1) I do not know this for a fact, but it seems to me that Japanese women, in
general, do not usually have exceptionally large breasts (this is not bad, by
the way... I have no intention of sounding piggish)  Therefore, if a Japanese
animator draws his characters to match his surroundings, they would not have
"huge" breasts.
(2) This possibility seems more likely to me : They don't WANT the female
characters to have "huge" breasts.  Anime, from what I have seen, is unique in
that it tells, for the most part, serious, emotional stories.  A point of view,
then, would be that, if you put in a female character with large breasts, it
would tend to distract the viewer and detract from the story.  How would you
like to go to a movie you had done work on as an animator, producer, etc. and
hear people saying "How about that Ashira!  What a pair!"  instead of, "That
was a beautiful story... it really moved me."?  I think anime artists go for
a higher form of beauty rather than settling for giant breasts.  As a side
note : How many of Disney's characters can you think of that had "huge"
breasts?  Not many, and probably for the same reason.

	That's just my $.02 worth.  Thanks for listening (well, reading,
anyway...)

							-MetalMaster
From: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anime vs. Disney (Oooh!  Ominous!)
Date: 9 Sep 1992 08:35:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews)
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I'd put any anime artist against Disney.  The anime artist would
win hands down.

Why?  Simple.  Disney's dead.  He has trouble holding a pen.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....heh.

			---------- Ryan Mathews
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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Nausicaa & Laputa
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 06 Sep 92 10:22:41 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia


In article <92245.230103CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu> CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
 >  
 > A copy of the Dubbed Laputa showed in July in the video room at Confluence in
 > Pittsburgh. Gawd, was it embarrassing, I had raved about the show to several
 > people at the con the day before. The dubbing was so awful I walked out seven
 > minutes into the show. I just couldn't take what they had done to my favorite
 > show.

Really? IMHO, it's Carl's best job besides Zillion. Mind you, I had
never seen the original japanese version of Laputa, and haven't dared
watch the english one since, but it is still a good job to show to
first-timers to get them hooked on anime via Miyazaki.

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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 18:08:16 EDT
From: <CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: MS Gundam Film #1
 <1992Sep15.143232.3883@spcvxb.spc.edu> <Bun161.Lo3@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>

A redone Gundam run, there's an idea. Surprised It hasn't been tried. Has such
a thing been done with other shows? I've noticed in the net.traffic and the fan
mags references to versions of old stories (Iron man 19,(sp), Devilman, etc)
but they seem to be new versions or entirely new stories, is there any examples
of a old show reanimated and retaining the old plot...WAIT A MINUTE! What was
I thinking, Do You Remember Love!!!! GAH! So there is precedent, but is there
the will and the available staff? Doi-san, you're closest to the action, is
there any sort of nostalgia in Japan on a large enough scale to ecourage such
a undertaking?

By the way, I was watching the first film without a script, and only picked up
fractured phrases and developments. What *is* all that Jion hardware and
personnel doing in the atmosphere? Did Jion originally have a country or two
in Europe before Tomino-sensei started rewriting history?

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From: jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Anime, and He May Not
Date: 6 Sep 92 02:16:23 GMT
Organization: Panix, NYC

In <37730@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator) writes:

>In article <189oamINNke0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bn981@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ryan Mathews) writes:
>>If there is anything I am sick of, it is this bit.  Where do people like
>>the reviewer get the idea that anime is full of huge-breasted women?  I
>>am hard-pressed to think of a lot of anime characters with "noticeable"
>>breasts (i.e. big enough to wobble a little), and the only characters I

>You're kidding right?

>For starters, how 'bout "your own" Lovely Angels.  C'mon, these are a
>pair of characters whose breast sizes are actually written in the
>series.  Can we say the same about Madoka?  Lum?  Kyoko?  Priss?  Nausicaa?

Agreed. Anime is INCREDIBLY SEXIST.  And if anyone can prove otherwise,
you have better sources of anime than I do.  I mean, just look at
GunBusters even? Bikini clad high-school girls fighting in mecha IN
BIKINIS?!!?!?!?  Even look at the Dirty Pair?  If you were a male "Lovely
Angel"  do you think you would be running around in a G-string and a gun?
(Note: The you in the last sentence isn't directed at -YOU- directly. 
Just a hypothetical thing)
Bubble Gum Crisis, when stripped of animation and techinical prowess is
written and plotted no better than an A-Team or a Knight Rider episode.
Anime could be, and at times is, better than that.  Look at Honneamise,
Laputa, Harmageddon etc......

Jack
jis@panix.com

PS:  The vast majority of anime nowadays is no better than the teen flicks
that come out every summer where the main characters a)graduate from
someplace b)decide to get drunk all the time and c)get laid.
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From: ebshen@athena.mit.edu (Eric B Shen)
Subject: Re: Best opening animations
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:42:09 GMT

In article <1620@tnc.UUCP> m0336@tnc.UUCP (RALPH JENKINS) writes:
>
>Re: KOR openings
> 
>Didn't "Night of Summer Side" simply use footage from the first
>season, flipping by really fast?  It didn't impress me too much.

You mean it didn't impress you because it was so simple?  I still think
it was the most exciting.  It doesn't have to be an animation milestone
to be great.  I think a lot of people are turned off by the first
opening because "it's just a bunch of shots blinking; all it does is
hurt my eyes."  I think it was the best, most interesting opening.

>However, I did like the "Actress in the Mirror" opening.

I'm surprised how many people like this opening.  While it may have been
the most technically difficult to animate, I thought the lame
backgrounds and lack of detail made the overall effect very sterile.

>I'd have to say the one I liked best, though, was the second season
>opening.  I don't know the exact title, but it resembled an MTV video
>and the lyrics were "Tell me, Tell me.."

Yeah that one was good, too.  The song is "Orange Mystery."

Eric Shen
ebshen@athena.mit.edu
From: uc-chan@mcl.ucsb.edu (Christina Callihan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: the conty $LOGNAME/$USER thang ..
Date: 6 Sep 92 18:48:07 GMT
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