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From: Neon@cup.portal.com (Anthony Joseph Bruder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Is anyone out there using a Mega Midget Racer w/ GVP HD
Date: Thu,  1 Oct 92 23:07:51 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <66875@cup.portal.com> <bmccnnll.717885329@unix1.tcd.ie>

In an article 9/30/92 Barry McConnell writes:

>In <66875@cup.portal.com> Neon@cup.portal.com (Anthony Joseph Bruder)
>writes:

>>the GVP cannot DMA any 32 bit ram you may have on a MMR daughter board.
>>This slows down reads and writes quite a bit.  I use a program called
>>DMAfix which is FD. This has brought my HD back up to speed.
>
>DMAfix will cure your problem in this situation, but an even better solution
>would be to set your address mask on each partition to 0xfffffffe (basically
>telling the GVP Series II that it can DMA everywhere, and if it finds some
>non-DMA memory, it'll use its own workaround which is a LOT faster than the
>OS method). This will give you higher speeds than the FD version of DMAfix,
>and almost identical speeds (well, a tad slower) to the registered version.
>
>Barry.

My mask is already set to 0xfffffffe but I still had the slowdown without
using DMAfix.  Could be my old prep program was not doing the job correctly
and preping the drive with the new program I have now seems to do the
trick.  However, using DMAfix still adds some more speed.

The trouble here is that the 32bit ram on the MMR daughter board is not
autoconfigured and is *outside* the normal 16 MB address space.  The mask,
as I understand it, tells the drive where it can't DMA not where it can.
If I don't have the proper mask, the drive will not slow down it will
crash.

I would be interested in getting the registered version of DMAfix but am
always reluctant to do so outside the US.  Barry McConnell asks for
10 Irish/UK pounds or its equivalent.  Don't know what to send in $$ with
conversion rates and increased mailing costs for him do to overseas mailing.

Also I'm uneasy about sending cash through the mail.  Most authors won't
accept a check since they lose so much in bank charges for overseas checks
and currency conversion.

BTW he mentions in the docs, something about e-mailing the registered
version.  This would save him the overseas shipping charges and speed
things up.  I know my e-mail address as neon@cup.portal.com, but for
international mail would I  add the suffix .us as in neon@cup.portal.com.us?
                                                                         ^^
Anyhow, thanks for the reply to my post and any further information would
be gratefully recieved.

Tony Bruder - neon@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.unix,comp.unix.amiga
From: wild@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch (Markus Wild)
Subject: Re: Battery-Backed-Up Clock And Unix
Organization: Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 16:20:27 GMT

In article <Re-Z4H7NTB@heaven7.in-berlin.de> martini@heaven7.in-berlin.de (Martin P. Ibert) writes:
>Hi everybody,
>
>I'm wondering if is possible to set the battery-backed-up clock of my A3000T
>without shutting down Unix and booting (urk) AmigaDOS. I tried several

setclk -s

is the magic command ;-)

-Markus

-- 
Markus M. Wild    -  wild@nessie.cs.id.ethz.ch  |  wild@amiga.physik.unizh.ch 
Vital papers will demonstrate their vitality by spontaneously moving
from where you left them to where you can't find them.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: donb@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Don Bayless)
Subject: Cable ???
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:50:20 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX


Help,


   I have a Microway Flicker Fixer and Mitsubishi DiamondScan monitor
   model No. AUM-1381A, with no docs and no CABLE.

   Does anyone happen to know the pin outs of these 2 creatures???

   Thanks,

Don Bayless
From: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Newsgroups: adsp.hw,adsp.misc,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: What can I do with a bad HD
Date: 6 Oct 92 08:26:32 GMT
Reply-To: peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany)
Followup-To: adsp.hw
Organization: Commodore Germany


In article <karl.4324@prophet.UUCP> karl@prophet.UUCP (Karl-Gunnar Hultland) writes:
>
>Since a week I get annoyed by messages saying 
>checksum error on partition work2:

If it's always on different (but neighbouring) sectors, then this is
perhaps a similar case as what I had a while ago. I formatted the drive
again and again, masking out more and more bad blocks, until I decided
to give in and regard the drive as defective and get a new one.
Don't waste too much efforts on a thing that you can't repair in the end.

-- 
Best regards, Dr. Peter Kittel  // E-Mail to \\  Only my personal opinions...
Commodore Frankfurt, Germany  \X/ {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!cbmger!peterk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: chang@ee.ualberta.ca (Wuichong Chang)
Subject: Help ! 1084s RGB pinout wanted !
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Distribution: world 
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 10:41:31 GMT



Can someone tell me the RGB pinout at the back of the 1084s monitor ?

Thanks.

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From: pvdh@motship.hacktic.nl (Paul van der Heu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: ECS on a 600, 500, 2000...
Date: 1 Oct 92 21:03:16 MET
Reply-To: pvdh@motship.hacktic.nl
Distribution: world
Organization: The MotherShip Connection
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00 beta rel2

In article <1992Sep29.222641.15514@wuecl.wustl.edu>, Christopher M. Dunphy writes:

> Can these machines, (a 600 say) use the super 72 modes an other special
> ECS modes?

Sure.. As long as the monitor can handle it.

> Can you connect a multisync and they would work?

If it can sync to the video mode you use yes. The 1950 an 1960 monitors
from C= work fine.. they even come with a 23 -> 15 pin adaptor

>  Which modes will work on a regualr monitor?

If by regular you mean 1084 like they will support all 15 KHz modes

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           Paul van der Heu, DLG BB/OS The MotherShip Connection
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From: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: New HAM-E or DCTV like devices for A4000?
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:42:36 GMT
Reply-To: daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA
Keywords: A4000, AA, True Colour

In article <9728@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com> peterk@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com (Dr Peter Kittel Germany) writes:

>1. 24-bit true colour in 426 x 512 (PAL)
>   Drive your display in SuperHiRes laced, giving you 1280 x 512 (PAL).
>   Use 8 bitplanes. Choose a palette of 256 Red values only.

That could work, though you don't even need to mess with the CLUT.  AA has
a CLUT bypass mode, that'll spit out the raw pixel data onto the R, G, and
B lines (3 identical copies result).  Bypassing the CLUT would make transitions
to such screens much easier.  In theory, such a device could work much like 
HAM-E or DCTV, where normal displays are passed through, the special logic 
only kicking in when so directed.  

>   Always take 3 horizontally adjacent pixels and combine their 3 bytes 
>   of Red to 24 bit RGB. 

That could certainly work.  The only problem with it is, like some of the
existing thing, it makes pixel mapping kind of crazy, since you're getting
a weird mix of planar and chunky to make each pixel.  

>   What seems impossible then, is using the built-in 24-bit video DAC for
>   these signals, it would make it even more easy. 

You can't use the built-in video DAC, that's for sure.  It's wired up to
the Lisa chip and there's no way to route your video there.  No big deal,
really, these things aren't all that expensive.

>2. 15-bit true colour in 640 x 512 (PAL)
>   Same as above, only always take 2 adjacent pixels and take their 2 bytes
>   of Red to 3 x 5 bits RGB. Do anything neat with the last bit :-).

I suppose if you built this puppy, both modes could be had for little extra 
work.  It might be interesting for video work, especially if you could let
the thing switch in and out, so superhires screens could still be had via
the CLUT.

>Someone volunteering to do this as a PD hack???

It's interesting.  I expect to have some free time in 1994...
-- 
Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Cool Advanced High-End Systems You Can't See Yet)
 "The Crew That Never Rests"  {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh   BIX: hazy
              "I got a pocket full of kryptonite" -Spin Doctors
From: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: AA sound chip. Specs?
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:18:45 GMT
Reply-To: mks@cbmvax.commodore.com (Michael Sinz)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.155734.90255@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au> bull@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au writes:
>>
>>        Were any details about the AA soundchip (Lisa?) released by
>>C=. I realise that Lisa isn't available just yet, but since my primary
>>interest in the Amiga is music related, having some idea of what the
>>next generation sound chip will be like would be useful to me.

We did not release an updated audio subsystem yet.  AGA mainly is a graphics
update.

>   You are out of luck.  Commodore has not improved the Paula sound chip at
>all in the AGA chipset, and has not said anything about any plans to release
>an update for the Paula chip any time in the near future.  Commodore may
>release a card with a DSP on it capable of 16-bit sound, but it will not be
>compatible with the Paula chip and software support for it will be severely
>lacking.

I love the way you slant your responces...  Here you first point out that
Paula was not enhanced and then say that we might do a DSP board with
advanced audio capabilities but then say that it would be incompatible
and software support would be a problem.

Well, lets say we did upgrade Paula to do 16-bit sound with 32 channels
(I am not saying we will, this is just an example)  How much software
support would there be?  Most current software either uses audio.device
with 8-bit samples at 28kHz or less sample rate or it hits the hardware
directly.  In either case, the enhanced features of the new Paula would
not be utilized either.  So, maybe the Paula on the A4000 has all of these
features but we just did not talk about them or give you the register
map.  Who would know the difference?

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|     ///                   Operating System Development Group         |
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From: cpw8034@venus.tamu.edu (ALAN CHIPIN WEN (409)693-2924)
Subject: Re: GForce 40MHz OVERCLOCKING........
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:17:00 GMT

>Simple...  A 40MHz chip's *MAX* clock rate is 40MHz.  Some parts may happen
>to run a bit faster, but if they all ran faster, Motorola would sell them
>as, say 46MHz parts rather than 40MHz.  (People pay more for high speed
>parts)

Wrong.  CPU's are labeled and sold to what the manufactorer believes is
a stable clockspeed.  Just about ALL CPU's can oscillate a bit faster than
the rate printed... it's just that when pushed beyond the limit can cause
mechanical problems due to heat dissappation (sp?).  You can push a 40Mhz
to about 45Mhz if you can find the right oscillation crystal and a proper
method of providing heat sinks.

You can find example in MMR's ads.  Some 030's are rated higher than the
actual chips... like 26Mhz's, 38Mhz's, and such.

alan
From: g.coulter@daresbury.ac.uk (Gary.C)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Upgrade 2000 or to 4000
Date: 2 Oct 92 14:30:48 GMT
Reply-To: g.coulter@daresbury.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK

I already have a B2000 with the following specification:

	(1) 1.2 Kickstart
        (2) 20  Mega/Byte Hard disk.
        (3) CPU standard 68000

I have looked at upgrading the above machine to the following

     	(1) GVP G-Force 030 50Mhz Combo -50Mhz 68030
            50Mhz 68882, 8 Mega/Byte ram SCSI controler

    	(2) 120 Mega/Byte hard disk.
	(3) 2.04 Kickstart + Workbench to suit.
        (4) DCTV
        (5) MegaChip 2000 2Meg Agnus

The main use of my machine is running Read3D, creating raytraced
animations. ie Rendering. What I want to know is (1) does anyone
have any comments on the above upgrade. (2) Would I be better to
upgrade  to a 040  board. (3) or  would I do better to sell  the 
B2000 and buy a Amiga 4000. If so does anyone know the price of
an Amiga 4000 + Appropriate monitor in the UK I have heard about
2500 pounds.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman)
Subject: GVP Series-II HC+8 (updated) *PROBLEM*
X-Disclaimer: All opinions expressed herein were sent to me telepathically
              by Elvis from Mars.
Reply-To: akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Queens Univ., Kingston, Ontario, Can.
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:48:47 GMT

I've had a GVP Series-II HC+8 with 120 MB Maxtor drive and 8 MB for a few
days.  Intermittently on disk access I get a requester

----
"gvpscsi.device": unit 000

Unexpected status $82/$00

----
And then after that the drive reports read errors and can't be used.  Rebooting
clears the problem up completely.

What does this status number mean?  The one manual I got (User's Guide) says 
nothing about status messages.

{}{}

Also previously when NOT accessing the disk I have gotten 

"gvpscsi.device": unit 000

Ignoring status $82/$60

Which is followed by

"gvpscsi.device": unit 000

Unexpected status: $42/$00

followed by read errors.

It's installed in an A2000 (German motherboard).  I just shut the machine off
when I'm done, does it park itself?

Thanks.
From: 890530m@dragon.acadiau.ca (Darren MacKenzie)
Subject: ADIDE
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 18:48:02 GMT

Does anyone know how compatible the AD-IDE card from ICD is with the Vortex
ATonce and ATonce-Plus?

Any help on the subject would be appreciated.

-Darren

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: guido@iastate.edu (BP Walenz)
Subject: New Monitor & Display Device Suggestions WANTED!!
Summary: NEW LOTSA_COLOR HIGH_RESOLUTION 
Keywords: NEW Monitor You Pick 4 Me
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:04:16 GMT

	Since the recent death of my beloved 1084, I have been looking
for a new monitor.  I have decided to upgrade a little (or a lot,
hopefully).  So, I'm looking for something along the following:

	For 9M 105M HD '030 A2000
	NO FLICKER
	At least 256 colors preferably 24 bit
	24 bit palette
	Resolution better than std. Amiga
	Able to use interactively (Throw WB on it)
	Cost around $1600 INCLUDING monitor

	Anything else?  S-VHS outputs would be nice, NTSC would be
			workable.  (For recording to VCR)

	Questions?  Suggestions?  E-mail.  I'll summarize.

Thanks,
bri
-- 
	     Brian P. Walenz      Computer Engineering|Science
	     guido@iastate.edu    Ames, IA       (515)296-5326
		"Ding-a-ding-dang my dang-a-long-ling-long"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: 8800529@hydra.maths.unsw.EDU.AU ()
Subject: Re: I want 736x554 NO-Interlace
Organization: school of Mathematics UNSW
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:12:12 GMT

In article <1BC216D8TA@tron.gun.de> ludwig@tron.gun.de (Ludwig Kamphenkel) writes:
>Yo!!
>
> This question is mainly to the C= developers. I just got my A4000 and I am
>allready mad, because there is still interlace. Is C= going to comme out
>with a flickerfixer (displayenhancer) for the A4000 in about 2 weeks or
>so?? I had a 736x554 workbench on my A500+ thanks to a flickerfixer but now
>I am back to interlace :(I do not want an answer like: 'user the Double Pal
>screenmode' because I am using it. Works great exept that most programs
>with open an own screen are using interlace. This is particular annoying
>when using PageStream (that's why I had a displayenhancer in the first
>place) Other than that I don't realy know how healthy it is for my monitor
>(Mitsubishi EUM-1471A) to swich between two frequences all the time. Since
>I payed about $3000 (DM 4400) I think I got a right to know (hopefully C=
>doesn't think otherwise)
> BTW could it be possible to integrate the displayenhancer on the upcomming
>Zorro-III SCSI controller IF a displayenhancer can be made using Zorro-III.
>
>          Enjoy...
>
>                  Ludwig
>-- THE ANSWER V2.03

	I think the best solution to your prob for now is to open your 
PageStream Screen on the WB or on a public screen.
	George
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: pmichali@nyx.cs.du.edu (Petros Michalis)
Subject: HELP: ECS with VGA without Flicker Fixer!
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 18:52:49 GMT


I have a spare VGA monitor that does nothing for the moment (my PC died,
OK I killed it) and I was thinking of possible ways to hoop it up to my
Amiga. Here it comes:
I have the ECS Denise which is supposed to do 640*480 NON-INTERLACED,
that has to be 31KHz output (my estimation) as opposed to the 15 KHz
normal Amiga signal. Is there a way to access that mode through a normal
ECS Amiga 500 without a flicker fixer?(I think the f.f. already
uses a bypass technique for this mode). 
Any suggestions would be very helpful,
Thank you,
          Petros Michalis

Queens College of the City University of NY.
email: michalis@alehouse.acc.qc.edu
       michalis@qcunix.acc.qc.edu
       l58qc@qcvaxa.acc.qc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Scan Doubling via Promotion...
From: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:31:27 -0600
Reply-To: martin@TIGGER.STCLOUD.MSUS.EDU
Organization: St. Cloud State University, St. Cloud, MN

I was curious...if from what I have read absorbs correctly into my brain.

the PAL and NTSC modes are ScanDoubled in software....does this mean that
when I run a game w/ a custom bootblock that I will NOT have scan doubling
occuring??? Is there a way to get that "beautiful" scandoubled SOLID color
on a bootable program?

Will the 2320 display enhancer work in the 4000 to do this scan doubling if
needed?


curious.

Jim


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From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Info on A2024 monitor wanted
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:10:31 GMT

In <5692@tuegate.tue.nl> hennes@blade.stack.urc.tue.nl (Hennes Passmann) writes:
>It's a 72Hz 4 grey-color monitor, able to display up to 1008 x 1024
>noninterlaced.

Nope, the A2024 uses 50Hz for 1008x1024 and 60Hz for 1008x800.

Regards,
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: taylors@hubcap.clemson.edu (C. Taylor Sutherland III)
Subject: Re: A4000 Cpu slot...
Organization: Clemson University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:17:17 GMT


Is there a possibility of C= releasing a 030 based A4000 and with maybe
fewer expansion slots for those people conscious of cost and who are
afraid to buy anything else for fear it will be dropped two days after 
the purchase?  Is this feasible and cost effective or would it be just
a waist of time?  I don't know, I'm asking.

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From: uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
Subject: Re: Questions about Super72 Video Mode
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:15:18 GMT

The Super 72 mode (800X600X 2 through 256 colors, plus HAM, HAM8), is
interlaced, with a scanning frequency of 72 Hz vs the NTSC screen
update rate of 60Hz.  It does flicker, but a lot less than any
other Amiga modes.  I used it on my A4000 for a while, it flickers
a bit too much for my tastes, but it is MUCH better than the
old 640X400 interlaced NTSC mode.  Some people find it good
enough to use as a WB, like I said it flickers a bit too
much for my tastes, but some pictures will hide the flicker more
than my preferred workbench colors, and it is a VERY useable mode.

-Roger
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NET: uzun@crash.cts.com
From: "jeff ruck" <jeff.ruck@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: cisc -vs- risc
Date: 3 Oct 92 11:44:14 EST
Reply-To: "jeff ruck" <jeff.ruck@channel1.com>
Distribution: comp
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

-> And you get all the nice instructions as well.  Just about any
-> architectural
-> tricks they can pull in a risc chip for speed can be done in a cisc
-> chip as

I disagree.  RISC designs, take the R4000SC for example, is designed
with a nice secondary cache, I just don't think CISC chip developers can
pack the added "features" of third-generation RISC processors on their
chips.

-> well.  The 040 averages an instruction every 1.3 clock cycles, which
-> is how
-> they get 19.2 mips out of one at 25Mhz.  A good risc chip today gets
-> 1 per
-> clock cycle.  They're not that far behind.

I'm not overly familiar with '040 performance, but here are a few facts:
Second-generation RISC processors (R3000, etc ...) *completed* one
instruction every 1.2-1.6 clock cycles.  The latest third-generation
RISC processors (R4000SC, Alpha, etc) *issue* as many as two
instructions per clock cycle and *complete* 1.2-1.3 instructions per
clock cycle via superpipelining or superscalar designs.  If an '040 can
*complete* an instruction in 1. clock cycles then I'm impressed.

-> Er...I thought the fastest RISC chips actually executed *several*
-> instructions per cycle?

It's not a matter of how "fast" (i.e. internal clock speed) the RISC
chip is.  It's more important to note the type of design the RISC chip
implements.  Simply, superscalar designs initiate pipelines in parallel,
and superpipelining is pipelining several smaller pipelines.  This is
what allows the processors to *initiate* more than one instruction per
clock cycle.  Theorectically, completely 1 insturction per clock cycle
is ideal, but very difficult to implement.

Jeff
jeff.ruck@channel1.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: spoon1@cwis.unomaha.edu (Jonathon B. Witherspoon)
Subject: So what now?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 22:51:55 GMT

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware