From: mk568652@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Mitchell Kotler)
Subject: STOP negative stereotypes of Jews!
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:16:07 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

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I RECENTLY HAD A "CONVERSATION" WITH MADDI HAUSMANN
TELL ME   WHAT  YOU  THINK OF THIS MESS.
It all started when I posted if there was any significance to the Jewish nose
myth.  Her answer:  something about the air being free.  This is a Jew talking , folks.
HERE WE GO....................
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To: madhaus@netcom.com (Maddi Hausmann)
Subject:you just don't get it 
In-reply-to: Your message of "Mon, 14 Dec 92 16:01:30 PST."
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> You make jokes all you want but when you make ethnic jokes, especially
> about your own kind, that's plain ignorant.

No, it isn't.  It's called being able to laugh at life.  I would call
your hair-trigger defensiveness plain ignorance.  I bet more people
would agree with my point of view than yours.  Psychologically, mine
is a better indicator of good mental health.

> I assume you're a professional,
> well, you should know better.

I am also a professional humorist, so I know better than you
about what is funny* You forgot boring..
*Well excuuuuuse me!

*Professional humorist, that's what this world really needs. In other words,
 you can't get a REAL job so you tell jokes. 
 

> You are reinforcing negative stereotypes
> about ourselves, especially when non-Jews read this newsgroup.

This might come as a great surprise to you, but your ludicrous
defensiveness does far more harm to the Gentile's view of Jews
as a people than my joke does.  One stereotypical trait of the
Jew is the virulent inability to discern between anti-Semitism
and normal behavior.

Congratulations, you just illustrated the source of the
stereotype.  Let me shake your hand.

* Look, you can give me all the double-talk you want, you just don't get it.
  Why don't you go tell some Holocaust jokes or some Inquisition jokes or something.
  Oh yes, I need to be able to laugh at life.  
  Ever wonder why there aren't many WASP jokes? Because they have a different philosphy
  on life altogether. Do you think a true Christian would joke about Jesus' crucifiction?
  Remember, I said  a TRUE Christian, not just anybody who calls themselves Christian. Just
  as some Jews are Jews outwardly, not inwardly. (hint) 
  
> They probably
> think it's OK to repeat these jokes, especially when Jews themselves are doing it!

It's okay by me.  Lighten up.

* Just because it's OK by you doesn't mean  it won't offend anybody else. Stop thinking of
  yourself.  Can't you see that as innocent as they seem, these anti-Semitic remarks 
  are the reason why we are being discriminated. And worse yet, you are carrying on by
  propogating this brand of "humor" and defending it with your fancy psychological 
  mumbo-jumbo.  You're not helping .  Doesn't it bother you when, if you see money on 
  the street and pick up, the person next to, a "friend" nonetheless, says something to 
  the effect of "Just like a Jew". Or how about ," If you're Jewish, then why aren't you
  rich?". Here's some more: "If you're Jewish, then why don't you have a big nose?"
  "where's your curly hair", "if you're Jewish, then why do you speak Spanish? (My parents
  are from South America).  These comments have all been said to me rather innocently
  from non-Jews, who sincerely felt that they were posing a valid question.

  Now what kind of crap is that?  Are you too big, too important, or too rich
  to be bothered by mild anti-Semitic remarks?  Yes , I'll lighten up -- when your
  so-called "jokes" become restricted to bagels and yamulkas.  But , I'm sure you
  won't even consider it -- I'm sure you're an important know-it-all big-shot
  humorist (big deal! as if you were a doctor or something!) .  Let's see what
  the rest of the world thinks on the net.    

  I can't believe I've just wasted an hour with a Jew who defends anti-Semitic
  jokes (remarks) because she is a cultured "humorist".  Oh Please.

> Use your head and stop trying to be so funny.

Use your head and stop trying to be so controlling.
* You can't be Jewish.  Please God , don't let it be.
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Maddi Hausmann                madhaus@netcom.com
Humorist, Satirist, Tech Writer.  Take your pick.

* You forgot boring.

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