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From: jkinnunen@sara.cc.utu.fi
Subject: Kansai Gaidai ?
Organization: University of Turku, Finland
Date: 21 Jan 93 08:59:04 EET



                          Konnichiwa !

    
      Could anyone please tell me about the KANSAI GAIDAI University
      in Japan ? I believe it is in Osaka.

      What subjects are taught there (languages, culture, economics) ?
      Anything else related to it is also welcome to be commented.

      This because our collage has an exchange program with this university.


                        Sayonara,

                                    JKINNUNEN@SARA.UTU.FI
                                          TURKU
                                         FINLAND

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: justin@hp750.me.engr.uky.edu (Justin Sullivan)
Subject: Re: NASA and the Japanese Space Program
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 14:11:50 GMT

shin@krusty.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin) writes:

>In terms of minding their own business and keeping to themselves, that's
>exactly some of qualities Japan is known to *not* have, based on
>historical facts, in that part of Asia.  Based on what Mr J Sullivan
>comes forward with such absurd observations?

Do not confuse such actions with ambitions.. Historically, Japan feels
that Asia belongs to them, and everyone else needs to be forced out.
Going back further, look at how Japan isolated itself and how it is still
a 'pure' society (in terms of race and culture)..
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: HDTV in Japan
From: larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 13:12:52 PST
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

Bull of France bought out Zenith DATA systems, not all of Zenith. The 
TV division is still American owned.
:::::Larry:::::

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From: wdw@math2.sma.usna.navy.MIL (Wm. Douglas Withers -- math  FACULTY <wdw@sma.usna.navy.mil>)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Is this offensive?
Date: 28 Jan 93 20:49:00 GMT
Organization: U.S. Naval Academy

In article <1900@rwja.umdnj.edu> jpark@rwja.umdnj.edu (John Park) writes:
>If you were an American businessman, or tourist travelling to a foreign
>country X, and were often harassed, and given hostile looks, and that you
>heard of and saw this happening to other American businessmen & tourists, 
>wouldn't you feel paranoid about travelling in that country again?.

Ahem...American businessmen and tourists DO receive hostile looks in many
foreign countries.  Not as much as formerly; the Japanese now get a larger
share.  Basically, whatever nationality is perceived as being rich and
powerful will be the target of a certain amount of undeserved resentment.

(Suppose you had a neighbor who made twice as much money as you did and
lived much more comfortably.  Suppose even that he was unfailingly generous
and kind towards you, giving gifts and offering frequent invitations.  How
would you feel about him.  Admit it...you would hate his guts!)

One must learn to make allowances for human nature.

>A friend of mine from Texas told me of this incident:  He was sitting
>in a restaurant in the U of T area.  There were some japanese businessmen
>also eating in the restaurant (probably wanting to invest in the town).,
>However, several college boys got up to their table and started shouting
>at them, blaming them for everything.
>My friend said that it got really awkward, and the businessmen seemed
>very humiliated being shouted at by kids in the crowded restaurant.

On the other hand...the really embarassing aspect of this story is apparently
no one came to the aid of the businessmen.
-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Subject: Re: Is this offensive?
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
	<RHB.93Jan22222015@world.std.com> <1993Jan25.194843.26204@til.til.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 03:26:37 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.194843.26204@til.til.com> tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka) writes:

   In article <RHB.93Jan22222015@world.std.com>, rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner) writes:
   |> 
   |> I don't mind being called a Yank. My British friends call me that (as
   |> in "you Yanks are having a bit of trouble in Somalia now, aren't
   |> you?") and I call them Brits. But just as a matter of clarification,
   |> the reason I sent my original post on this is because I asked my wife
   |> (who is a sansei) if she thought the word Jap pejorative. She said no.
   |> 

   "Brits", "Yanks", "Canucks" are tame stuff.  They're not in the class
   of "Chink", "nigger", "Jap".

   Consider ... New York Yankees, Vancouver Canucks.  And consider how the
   word "Yanks" is being used in your example above.  I've oft heard the
   word "Brits" used like "you Brits have a subtle sense of humor."  There
   is no hate or anger behind such uses.

   Now, consider ... Marge Schott: "I'd rather hire monkeys than niggers."
   "Remember pearl harbor, Jap."  "Go home, Chink."  "The Japs are
   buying up everything." (This would usually be said in the absence of
   a person of Japanese decent.)

   Sure Yanks, Brits, Canucks, Chink, Jap, nigger all are offensive to
   a degree.  Just that the latter 3 *much* more so than the former 3.

   I'm a pretty insensitive person and don't give a hoot about political
   correct-ness.  *I* am telling *you* that I find "Jap" and "Nip" quite
   offensive.  Store that in your data bank, and think twice before using
   these terms the next time.

   As for your wife not minding ... what can I say.  You say she is
   third generation.  Were her parents interned during WW2?  If they
   were, I don't know how she could make such a statement.


Read the rest of the post. It explains why she said that (she was
being sarcastic, I later learned, because she thought I wasn't
serious). And yes, her parents were interned during WWII. And lighten
the fuck up, will you.  I didn't call you or anyone else a Jap. And
elsewhere in the post I made that crystal clear.

RB


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| have loved it." -- George Santayana  // Opinions expressed here, when |
| clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Godzilla!!!
Date: 23 Jan 93 18:15:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sfMVTC200iV2A4l7cE
	<C18AII.3w7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Freinds,


.

   In thanks to the kind Akira Ijuin again for mentioning the subject of
this post.(Dude is on a roll)

Godzilla! There is not enough band width to give the unrecognized credit
that the creator of this monster turned hero turned demi-god. Wow! Just
as the great
master Bruce Lee and Jimi Hendrix are in the heart of children the world
over Godzilla almost reigns supreme. From Blue Oryster Cult to the world
over.
But what is the psychology behind Godzilla? What was the Artist trying
to say above society in this sense? Why did we, the Spectators, react so
long in a positive way to this  Creator? Who was the Creator? Who was
Gozilla?

I can answer all but the last two of these questions. But, Let's see
what comes out of this.

Thanks Mr. Ijuin! :)))) 
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Subject: Re: Racial Discrimination in Hiring English Teachers
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 19:30:03 GMT

In article <43988@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ee52fbc@sdcc15.ucsd.edu (Maiko Covington) writes:

	   How do I feel about it? I think it is terrible. I feel the
   same way I did when I interviewed for an English teaching job and
   was flatly rejected because my breasts are not big enough and I am
       ^^^^^^
I hope this was intentional. It's one of the best puns I've seen in
this newsgroup.

   quite short. Yep, I was told this directly. What on earth do the
   size of my breasts have to do with my language abilities? (Oh, so
   THAT's where the language centers are... ^_^). 
	   I guess the motto is, whether you are planning to teach at a
   school or study English at one, please be very careful.

	   Maiko Covington

However, I agree that breast size and other physical characteristics
(barring speech impediments, of course) have nothing to do with
language abilities. I couldn't resist commenting on the pun, but I
don't want to sidetrack your very real issue here.

RB




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|"The truth is cruel, but it can be loved, and it makes free those who  |
| have loved it." -- George Santayana  // Opinions expressed here, when |
| clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |
From: howp@skyfox
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: RE: Where's the Beef...(a shameless plug, sorry)
Date: 23 JAN 93 22:02:19 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
NNTP-Posting-Host: sask.usask.ca


blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert) writes:

=> keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka) writes:
=> > [...]  By all means, buy Australian beef (for obvious selfish 
=> >reason) but go for the best price really for any of the import 
=> >beef. There is absolutely no reason to pay obscene amount of 
=> >money for paper-thin, flimsy, tasteless Japanese beef! 

>I don't know...

>I can't agree that Kobe, Matsusaka, or Yonezawa beef is tasteless
>at all. The "cheap beef that ain't cheap" in Japan is not very
>good, but the stuff that you pay "obscene" amounts for is often
>very good quality... almost fork tender and very savory.

Just to throw in my two cents (and plug Canadian beef while I'm at it :) ) I've
been told by farmers that Canadian beef is of exceptionally high quality
because our cattle are fed grain (not corn; apparently, corn makes the fat more
yellowish) and I think we also use less antibiotics/drugs/or whatever than
anyone else.  I just thought our friendly Japanese beef consumers would like to
know this. 

Cheers,
Peter How
University of Saskatchewan,
Saskatoon, SK
CANADA
(306) 966-6452
IN::how@skisas.usask.ca
IN::howp@sask.usask.ca
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner)
Subject: Re: JWP for mac
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
	<F54713.93Jan25175607@sakura.sakura.kudpc.kyoto-u.ac.jp>
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 16:18:12 GMT

In article <F54713.93Jan25175607@sakura.sakura.kudpc.kyoto-u.ac.jp> f54713@sakura.kudpc.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Ellis Yan-Chee Lau) writes:

   In article <RHB.93Jan21105125@world.std.com> rhb@world.std.com (Robert H Brueckner) writes:

    >Sure, there are several. I've been using EG Word for a few years now
    >and it's satisfactory for most things. But I'm gearing up to get
    >Solowriter, which is produced by Nisus Software. It requires the
    >System 6 Japanese operating system or the new Japanese language module
    >(excuse me if this is not the correct way to describe this) that will
    >be available for System 7.1. It costs about $400, but if it's as good
    >in Japanese as Nisus is in English, then it will truly be a dream come
    >true.
    >

   I think SoloWriter is the best Japanese word processor. However, it runs
   very slow in 68000 cpu. It costs about 44000yen in my university.

I don't think it was intended for the 68000. By now most software
assumes at least a 68030 running at 16 MHz. The low end of the market
doesn't even offer the 68000 cpu anymore, so my suggestion would be to
upgrade. The new 68030 cpu models probably cost less than your old
Plus or SE did when you bought it anyway.

RB


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| have loved it." -- George Santayana  // Opinions expressed here, when |
| clear and persuasive, are my own. --Rob Brueckner (rhb@world.std.com) |
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: US as No. 1 (3 data books)
Date: 22 Jan 93 20:49:09 GMT
Distribution: sci.econ,soc.culture
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.

In article <1993Jan22.151010.17928@acuson.com>, miklg@acuson.com 
(Michael Goldman ) writes:

=>	.............................. I would like to mention three
=> 	recent books that compare the US and many other countries in
=> 	such things as infant mortality, murder rates, rate of growth
=> 	of exports, etc.
=> 
=> 
=> 	"We're Number One" by Andrew L. Shapiro, 1992 $10, Vintage
=> 	books.
=> 
=>	.......................... There were a lot of surprises for
=> 	me.  E.g., the US murder rate is 9.4/100,000, with the next
=> 	highest being Sweden with 7.2/100,000.  (From another data
=> 	source I know that the US rate for blacks is 66/100,000 and for
=> 	whites it is 8+/100,000.)  The surprise for me is not that the
=> 	US has the highest rate but that it isn't as much higher as I
=> 	thought.  

The statistics for blacks are staggering, and the fact that even whites
alone is higher than any other nation, sobering. Just curious, and as
this s.c.j (I edited the newsgroups), what was the murder rate in Japan?

=> 	"Where We Stand" Bantam Books, $24, Wolff, Rutten, Bayers, et al.
=> 
=> 	Similar to the above, but with different sets of data.  One
=> 	surprise:  The US has one of the smallest middle classes of
=> 	the major countries.  In the US, 53.7% have incomes between
=> 	0.67 and 1.5 times the national median, compared to Japan with
=> 	90%, Sweden with 79%, Germany with 70.1%, and 6 other countries
=> 	with higher numbers........

People talk about the dwindling of the middle class in the US. Anyone
have any idea how the above compares with 25 years ago, or any other
decade, for that matter?

=> 	"The Economist Book of Vital Statistics" (New York: Times
=> 	Books) is another good one, cited in the Shapiro book.
=> 
=> 	Actually, I've never seen actual data convince anyone on the
=> 	net of anything.  There seems to be something that prohibits
=> 	people from writing "Oh, I didn't know that - so you were right
=> 	and I was wrong - thanks for the info."  It would be nice to
=> 	see more of that, though the shock would probably kill half the
=> 	long time netters.

Oh, I didn't know about these books. Thanks for the info :-)

- Bill
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Happy new year !!
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:55:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.UfMVAQa00iV204l64I
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Thank you and a Happy New yew to you too!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: "joe kuroda" <joe.kuroda@canrem.com>
Subject: how about a new newsgroup
Reply-To: "joe kuroda" <joe.kuroda@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:11:23 EST



In article <1993Jan23.045225.4525@netcom.com>,
            jturley@netcom.com (Jim Turley) writes:

JTHey gang, how about alt.rie!

How about alt.rie&taka .....:-)

               ==> Joe <==

 * 1st 1.01 #930 + IF STONE(ROTATION) > 1 THEN MOSS(PROPAGATION) = 0
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim)
Subject: Re: Apologizing for WWII--yet again
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:10:52 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.080309.13185@leland.Stanford.EDU> underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>[...]
>I agree with this, but the notion of "responsible" that Mr. Tanaka uses
>is not the same as the "responsible" that people from a certain 
>overbearing nation in Asia use.  Their notion of "responsible" is that
>the Japanese-ge people bears the _guilt_ for what other Japanese-ge people
              ^^
I will persist my unending quest for answer from D.Joe.
Thus, I shall ask this question for (n+1)th time to D.Joe.
( This is just to tell new users that D.Joe positions
  are logically untenable and at least have racist tendancies.)

According to DJoe... following is the definition of his legend.

>Legend-
>  -ge = in the sense of ethnicity (i.e. genetics)
>  -cu = in the sense of culture
>  -ci = in the sense of citizenship

Question #1)
Tell me, for a person to be called chines-ge what percentage of
his genetic should be Chinese.  I will make it easy for you:

    1) at least 25.00000000000000000001 %
    2) at least 33.33333333333333333334 %
    3) at least 50.00000000000000000001 %
    4) at least 66.66666666666666666667 %
    5) None or all of the above.

Question #2)
To be considered a Chinese-cu one must be:
 
    1) At least 25% Chinese culture and any combination
       of foreign cultures adding up to 75%.
    2) Only Han Chinese, other ethnic groups within
       China are not Chinese-cu, since some of them retain
       more than 50.0000001% of their original culture.
    3) Chinese living in America are Chinese-cu if they
       are 100% converted since, living in US and
       not accepting this superior culture is unforgivable.
    4) none or all of the above.

Question #3)
I think you got the idea...

This kinds of catagorization leads to meaningless prejudices,
and only clouds the discussion, which Djoe have been known to
consistently do.

I am eagerly waiting your reply to enlighten me.

Andrew Sung Hyun Kim

"O sancta simplicitas! In what strange simplification of falsification man 
lives!  ... How we have made everything around us clear and free and easy and 
simple!  How we have been able to give our senses a passport to everything 
superficial..."             [Beyond Good and Evil]  by F. Nietzsche


Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: "edward nakagawa" <edward.nakagawa@canrem.com>
Subject: in (partial) defense of r
Reply-To: "edward nakagawa" <edward.nakagawa@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 25 Jan 93 19:29:37 EST

MW>My special complements to NHK's English program "JAPAN TODAY", it did
MW>an excellent job in the past.

MW>(I feel sad that "Japan Today" can no longer be be found on TV channels
MW>in the Toronto area.)

Mickey... CBC Newsworld carries a weekly review of "Japan Today" at
7:00 am. Saturday..

  Ciao
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: on extraterritoriality (I)
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Distribution: world 
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:41:07 GMT


PS to my prior <1993Jan22.000752.4409@Csli.Stanford.EDU>.

I forgot to say that
following this, there will be no no-content responses as
above (which in turn responded to a no-content response)
on this topic from me.
Of course, I'll be happy to reply to any substantial
rebuttal, argument, or question.

Sorry again, this will be final.

-YH
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:38:50 -0500 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Akutagawa Ryuunosuke
	<1993Jan19.004154.28056@Csli.Stanford.EDU>

Mr.YHiraga writes:

.

>In article <gfKlFw600VpbA2NFhv@andrew.cmu.edu> Rikiya Asano
<ra01+@andrew.cmu.e
>du> writes:
>>Ryuunosuke won the Noble prize in Literature.
> 
>For the record -- no he didn't.
>The only Japanese writer that won the Nobel Prize was KAWABATA Yasunari,
>although Mishima (yes, Mishima) is said to have had a good chance at it
>(note that the prize is not awarded posthumously).

Oh! I'm shocked! Really! This man was one of the best writers the
history of the
earth! Really! I am almost inclined to ask you to prove this. But, I
know that you are a factual individual. I'm shocked!! This is bad! Real
bad!!

I will have to make a series of paintings based on his on his works!
This will definately be better than any cheap Noble Award in Literature.
Where does this Award come from anyway- Oslo, Norway! Where the hell is
that! I bet it ain't even on the map!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: fester@island.COM (Mike Fester)
Subject: Re: Naze Nihonjin mada kujira toru?
Organization: /usr/local/rn/organization
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 16:31:42 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.182730.86039@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jpr1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (James P. Reynolds) writes:
>Konnichi wa!
>
>Watakushi wa Nihongo ga heta desu.  Yomiyoi nozomu.
>
>Tegami o "Greenpeace"kara morau.  Tegami Nihonjin kujira mata tsurini irassharu
>nozomu mosu.
>
>Kore shinpai saseru.  Nihon ryooshi kono kagakuteki ossharu, ga kujira Nihon
>uogashi iku.  Mata Nihon sen kujira toru nozomu.  Sugu kujira to iu hodo
>nokujira wa gozaimasen.
>
>Nihonjin zenbu no hoka wa kujira meshiagaru ka?     :-)

Yes, Japanese still eat whale. You can still buy kujira steaks at quite a few
grocery stores, and in many cases, it's much cheaper than beef (Koganei's
Nagasakiya sold kujira steaks for Y1,000 for 500g). It's a very dark red 
meat. Shibuya still has a Kujira-ya restaurant, and I confess to have eaten
there. You can also buy canned whale in some stores, and I recall that some
restaurants in Kochi served various whale dishes. Ditto Osaka, Sapporo, etc.

>[This is my first try at something in Nihongo.  I think everyone who
>actually does know Nihongo is going to have a good laugh.  :-)  I hope I got
>all the honorifics right; sometimes I don't know if there's a humble/honorific
>set for a given verb.  Also I have trouble with the particles.   -JR]

Hey, you've got more guts than I do. 

Mike
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Disclaimer - These opinions are not so much opinions, as pearls of wisdom. Any-
one disagreeing is obviously either a) a snivelling, whining, mentally-
deficient, weak-willed, inconsequential, namby-pamby tool of some vague but
conveniently defined conspiracy, or b) my wife.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Some Thoughts on s.c.j
From: larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 21:58:16 PST
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

I *TOO* don't like having to wade through messages on subjects I 
don't like (whether they be Yaohan or sumo), but I'd appriciate it if 
people don't act like jerks and post stuff like NUKE ALL THE YAOHANS 
posts.  I couldn't care LESS about sumo,but realize that there are 
probably those out there who do, so I leave it be, and just hit the 
<n> key at the <More?> prompt, instead of crowding the 
already-crowded message base with MORE messages demeaning this.
   As a poster just said, until s.c.j. is split into other things 
anything having to do with Japan except for language (that's sci.l.j) 
is valid.   Perhaps is people weren't so quick to post obnoxious "I 
don't want to read this stuff" posts, and just let those posts BE for 
the people that DO want to read them, s.c.j. would be a nice place to 
hang out.
:::::Larry:::::


:::::larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us::::: // :::::Larry Greenfield:::::
::::::::Just your average modeming Classical Violinist:::::::::
:::::::::::Using a 6809-based Tandy Color Computer 3:::::::::::