HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mbrown@testsys.austin.ibm.com (Mark Brown)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: PUC: Caller ID illegal
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:59:40 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM Corp., Austin TX.

> dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com writes:
>>, mbrown@testsys.austin.ibm.com (Mark Brown) writes:
>|> The privacy issue is a smokescreen for the real reason Bell wants Caller
>|> ID:
>|> 
>..	corporate databases
>|> ...and *we'd* pay for the privilege! Think how many times you'd use CID
>|> to 'screen' calls, or how many numbers you'd remember at a glance,
>|> compared to the utility that, say, First Bank would receive...
>
>	You don't have to remember Phone Numbers, the little Caller ID
>	boxes allow you to input names associated with the number OR

The ones I've seen don't come with a keyboard, or a PC. Just a little
LCD display.

>	plug it into you PeeCee and when the phone rings, you get all
>	the same info on them(assuming they've called before and you
>	logged the info into YOUR database).

All of this for the same utility you get now from the answering machine.

*IFF*:
	we get Per Line (turn off the line all the time) Blocking
	   (so I don't have to hit "*7Foo" every time I call)
			-and-
	we get Per Call Blocking
			-and-
	we don't have to pay to Block

*then* Caller ID  will be a Good Thing for the "rest of us".

-- 
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From: root@moller3.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: accepting risk (was speed traps on 2222)
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:58:53 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM, Austin

In article <1992Nov5.150831.24700@hal.com> ables@hal.com (King Ables) writes:

[...]

>
>If you are willing to take more risks than someone else, then enjoy the
>fact that you will have more exhilarating experiences than some others.
>But don't put them down for not caring about those particular experiences
>enough to take the risk.  A long and healthy life is important to some,
>too, and it's a perfectly reasonable thing for which to strive.  We don't
>all have to be "pushing the envelope" in everything we do.

More often, the problem seems to be that those who haven't any interest
in pushing the envelope manage to get laws passed that prohibit envelope-
pushing.

>---------------------------------------------------------------
>King Ables                    HAL Computer Systems, Inc.
>ables@hal.com                 8920 Business Park Dr., Suite 300
>+1 512 794 2855               Austin, TX  78759
>---------------------------------------------------------------
>"Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug."
>				-- Dire Straits & Mary-Chapin Carpenter


-- 
Chris Moller (moller@austin.ibm.com)

IBM pays absolutely no attention to my opinions, ergo the 
foregoing cannot possibly represent its position.
From: billw@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: accepting risk (was speed traps on 2222)
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:17:01 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: /home/wpwood/.organization

In article <1992Nov19.153113.18270@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> jlpicard@austin.ibm.com (Craig Becker) writes:

>So, purely from statistics, it looks like motorcycle riders are 5 times more
>likely to die on the road than automobile drivers (A purist might argue that
>using registration figures from 1980 to 1989 and fatality figures from 1980
>to 1988 (or 1987) is cheating, but I have a feeling that the 5:1 ratio would
>be more or less the same if equal intervals were used).

According to the Motorcycle Safety Institute (think that name is right,
my brother is the biker, not me), a person on a motorcycle who has not
taken a motorcycle safety course is *FIVE* times as likely to wind up
in an accident as a person in a car.  A biker who has taken the course
is still 1.5 times as likely to have an accident as a person in a car.
	The problem is, of course, that when you don't have any sig-
nificant mass to protect you in an accident, *any* accident is quite
dangerous.
	I was amazed when I lived in Maryland.  Maryland has no law
requiring a motorcyclist to wear a helmet, and many of them don't.
Now, I support your right to not wear a helmet.  Hell, it might even
help you avoid an accident (helmets interfere with your peripheral
vision somewhat).  But I think your stupid to do it.
	And of course, one of my friends explained it like this :
If you wear a helmet, you might not die in a major accident, you
might just be paralyzed for life.  Better to end it clean.
	Sheesh!
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512-838-4107          |   in his bed and felt very sorry for himself indeed.
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From: figueroa@maximillion.mcc.com (Diane Figueroa)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: Romantic places to eat in Austin
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:02:00 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: MCC Corporate Computing
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov17.170511.16156@chpc.utexas.edu>, byab305@chpc.utexas.edu (Steve Poole) writes...
>We're looking for some suggestions for romantic places to eat in
>Austin.  We have been to Green Pastures, Jeffrey's, and the Paggi
>House.  We would like to try others.  Please send or post
>recommendations, and a brief description if possible.  Thanks!
> 
>-- 
>Steve Poole  
>Center For Space Research
>University of Texas at Austin
>aoab305@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu  or  poole@kate.ae.utexas.edu
I recommend Basil's Restaurant at 900 W. 10th.  I believe it is an
old house that is converted to a restaurant.  They must only have about
20 (if that many) tables.  My husband took me there for my birthday.  It
was wonderful!

Diane Figueroa
Microelectronics & Computer
  Technology Corporation
Newsgroups: austin.general
From: chiu@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com (Norman Chiu)
Subject: Re: What is a good travel agency in Austin?
Followup-To: austin.general
Organization: Motorola Inc.
Distribution: austin
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:21:37 GMT

In article <83671@ut-emx.uucp>,
rstewart@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Robert Stewart) wrote:
> 
> River City Travel
> 9070 Research Blvd.
> (Next to Lone Star Cafe at the Crossroads, intersection of Burnet and 183)
> #A102
> Austin, TX 78758
> 467-1777
> 
> Robert Stewart
> rstewart@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu  

I also recommend River City Travel highly.  They are courteous, efficient,
and will do their best to find the best deal for you.  Ask for Bonnie
Hopson.

   /|   /  chiu@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com  | Norman Chiu - Motorola Inc.
  / |  / ___________________________ | "We never gonna survive
 /  | / /  / /__/  /\/\   /_\   /| / |  unless we get a little
/   |/ /__/ /   \ /    \ /   \ / |/  |  crazy"       - Seal
From: seningen@maserati.ross.com (Mike Seningen)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: Romantic places to eat in Austin
Date: 23 Nov 92 23:09:35 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: ROSS Technology, Inc. Austin, Tx.

In article <6349@tivoli.UUCP> aqn@tivoli.UUCP (Andy Nguyen) writes:
>>Warning: It's expensive. The menu the women get do not have prices
>>listed so I'm not sure how expensive it is, but I can imagine. You
>>can find a coupon in the Passbook.
>
>I second this, but I would like to add:
>
>a.  If you plan to go there on a peak night, a reservation is a must,
>    maybe even a couple of days beforehand.
>    An inevitable by-product of the relaxed pace of dining and the
>    limited seating capacity (far as I can tell, about two small bedrooms
>    worth) is the long wait for a diner w/o a reservation.
With the exception of Easter, I have always been seated upon arrival or
shortly thereafter (typ Fri/Sat night). 
>
>b.  The cuisine is "Irish" but it's certainly not corn beef and cabbage!
>    It's one of the "best three" I've been to in Austin.
>
I agree, the food is fantastic, choices are somewhat limited.
>c.  It's rather amusing that the female of a male/female couple automatically
>    gets the menu w/o prices!  How expensive was it?  How would I know, my
>    SO paid for it!  Seriously tho, the entre'es are about $30-$40.
>-- 
I the entrees run about $20-25 in most cases.  Soups and Desserts are extra.
They have a dinner for two that runs $70 or so that includes several courses
of food.  Fomr what I could tell from other tables it was TOO MUCH food.

cheers,

mike


-- 
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-Michael Seningen                     seningen@ross.com
                                      uunet!cs.utexas.edu!ross!seningen
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From: werner@cs.utexas.edu (Werner Uhrig)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: Romantic places to eat in Austin
Date: 21 Nov 1992 20:37:41 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: dimebox.cs.utexas.edu

 tmcdonal@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Tom McDonald) writes:
> Kate's; an old house converted into a restaurant with about 10-15
> tables, unless there was another room.  This place was fantastic.
> Is it still around?

	the same location is now called Zoot's.
	Also great place.  But "The Belgian Restaurant" on Bee Cave
	has the most accomplished cook in town, I believe.  And with
	a pianist, flautist, violinist, cellist playing, it's hard to
	beat the atmosphere...
-- 
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              "Free Advice and Opinions -- Refunds Available"
Newsgroups: austin.general,ut.general
From: dodd@cactus.org (Bill D. Dodd)
Subject: November Austin NeXT User Group meeting announcement 
Followup-To: austin.general
Keywords: NeXT meeting
Organization: Capital Area Central Texas UNIX Society, Austin, Tx
Distribution: austin
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 05:04:10 GMT



              November Austin NeXT User Group Meeting

Date:   Tuesday, November 24
Time:   7:00 PM - 9:00 PM
Place:	Old Quarry Library, Conference Room
	On Far West, 1/4 mile west of Mopac, next to HEB
Topic:  We expect to have a slab present, and to have demos of Smalltalk
	and Appsoft Image. We will have disks with some fun and useful
	Apps, downloaded from one of the NeXT archive sites. Please bring
	a blank 1.44M floppy to exchange for a disk loaded with cool stuff.
        As always, bring your questions, discussion topics, rumors,
        and innuendo.

For more information contact:
Bill Dodd
bill@mescal.cactus.org
(Work) (512) 838-7902
(Home) (512) 331-9932
From: clements@cs.utexas.edu (Paul C. Clements)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: accepting risk (was speed traps on 2222)
Date: 16 Nov 1992 08:46:53 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: lychee.cs.utexas.edu

In article <21880@rpp386.lonestar.org> jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:

>He isn't saying that he should get to drive wrecklessly on 2222...
                                             ===========

Boy, there's a word that isn't a word that should be a word!   I think
that was supposed to be "recklessly."   We all hope to drive wrecklessly.

pc
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From: linimon@nominil.lonesome.com (Mark Linimon)
Newsgroups: austin.general,austin.flame
Subject: Re: TV repair shops?
Summary: a strong NEGATIVE recommendation for Circle Stereo
Date: 18 Nov 92 22:48:52 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: Lonesome Dove Computing Services

In article <1992Nov6.180349.1986@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> root@moller3.austin.ibm.com writes:
>I've had top-notch results from Circle Stereo on Burnet with a VCR.

Then you must have gone to a different Circle Stereo on Burnet than the one
that I did.  If I had remained in Austin, I would have filed a complaint with
the Better Business Bureau.  As it was, I was in the process of moving, and
simply didn't have time to fool with it.

Originally I simply wanted to get a quote for how much it would cost to repair
a VCR that was suffering from disuse.  I got a continual run-around about how
much it would cost *just to do the estimate*.  Finally, I agreed to let them
do the work, as long as it didn't run over $100.

Every few days, when I called, I was told that they were "almost ready to
work on it," and that it might cost more money.  When, after two weeks, I
became more insistent that they work on it (I was to be moving _quite_ soon),
they tried to give me some kind of story about what they had been told to do
when the unit was dropped off (untrue, it turns out).

Finally, another week later, I went to the store directly to find out in
person what was going on.  The unit was not ready.  Worse, and most
inexcusably, they tried to tell me that they had only had the unit for
a week: "It just wouldn't be possible that we would have had it for
longer".  I don't take well to being (implicitly) called a liar, and made
them look it up.  "Oh."  So while I waited, they went back in the back to
"put it back together" (please pardon my skepticism, at this point).

I'm generally pretty easy to get along with, and don't enjoy creating "scenes".
But this is definitely the rudest treatment that I've gotten at any kind of
"service" establishment in at least the last decade, and the first time I
recall having to insist, loudly, that I would be happy just to have the
equipment _back_, regardless of whatever shape it happened to be in at the
moment.

These people wasted a lot of my time, at a point where I had none to waste.
My advice to the net would be to avoid them at all costs.

Mark Linimon
-- 
    Mark Linimon / Lonesome Dove Computing Services / Roanoke, Virginia
   {chinacat,uunet}!nominil!linimon   ||    linimon@nominil.lonesome.com     
     "I keep my fingernails long, so they click when I play the piano."
From: alan@auntbea.austin.ibm.com (Alan R. Weiss)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: Auto mechanic reviews?
Date: 18 Nov 92 23:51:24 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: (speaking for myself only)

In article <lftmj3INNogp@boogie.cs.utexas.edu> swisher@cs.utexas.edu (Janet M. Swisher) writes:
>I recall that a while ago, some kind soul out in net.land compiled a
>bunch of reviews of Austin-area auto mechanics.  Could someone email
>me that file?

Forgive me for hopping on your posting as an excuse to
post a story about a good deed done ....

My 1989 Mazda 929 ( Toyo Kogyo is 1/3 owned by Ford -- ed.)
started knocking.  A lot.  Like the lifters were going to
hurl, and like the valves were earnestly trying to pound
the cylinder heads into a puddle of metal.

I called up Roger Beasley Mazda, and ask for the Service Desk.
Presenting myself in a suitably prone position (over the phone),
I proceeded to tell the Service Dude my tale of woe.  He immediately
suggests that I change the oil filter.  He suspects that the
engine isn't getting enough oil, because the check-off valve
("huh?", I asked) is probably jammed.

I change the oil filter, putting in the finest dinosaur remnants
possible (Castrol), and guess what?  HE WAS RIGHT!

He could have had me bring the Beast of Burden in for a
jillion dollar valve-ring-lifter job, and I wouldn't have been
the wiser.  But he didn't.  Instead, he solved the problem,
over the phone, for free.

I don't know his name, but Roger Beasley Mazda now has one
happy (future) customer.  The Unknown Service Dude did a good
deed.  And the Beast of Burden lives for yet another day ....

There is hope in this world after all.
-- 
   _  Alan R. Weiss   IBM AWD Austin AIX Kernel   11501 Burnet Rd, Bld 905
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From: joe@woody.mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: SWBT "Two-inch lady" in Austin? (your number back...)
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:43:43 GMT
Reply-To: joe@mpd.tandem.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: Tandem Computers Inc., Austin, TX.

]Say a guy comes to a party with "bad intentions" on his mind (i.e.,
]casing the joint with plans to rob it later).  He uses the phone, dials
]the repeat number and saves it for later use.  Then, at his leisure, he
]can call the phone number to check whether or not the occupants are at
]home.
]Of course, this is all moot if people write their phone number down on
]their receiver.

you've been watching waaaay to much TV. if he's casing the joint he'll
already know their come and go patterns. if he's able to get into the
place at all it'd be a simple matter to just ask for the phone number
so he could call later to chat or something. how many people do you
let into your house without knowing them? party or not...

-- 
Joe Senner                                          joe@rider.cactus.org
Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com
From: jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: 2nd Annual Austin ReLeaf TreeAthalon
Date: 19 Nov 92 13:37:50 GMT
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Organization: Los Tejanos SCUBA Club and Beer Joint, Austin, Tejas

In article <83924@ut-emx.uucp> jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar) writes:
>Yeah, no thanks to the various phenolic, terpene, polynuclear aromatic
>hydrocarbon (PAH), pyrrolizidine alkaloid, and diterpene ester compounds
>produced in the leaves and barks of trees that enter the atmosphere by the
>ton each and every day.  Many of these compounds are carcinogenic, but no
>one seems to care about this.  No...nothing natural could cause cancer ;-)

But they smell =so= nice and remind me of the years I spent living in
the 13 Original Colonies.  I think the tens of thousands of asthma
suffers in Austin will just have to suffer when Spring comes and all of
the trees in town are in bloom.

Or we could pave paradise and put up a parking lot ...
-- 
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Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
From: mbrown@testsys.austin.ibm.com (Mark Brown)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: PUC: Caller ID illegal
Date: 17 Nov 92 15:57:15 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM Corp., Austin TX.

> dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com writes:
>>, lenny@icus.ICUS.COM (Lenny Tropiano) writes:
>> PUC: Caller ID illegal
>> Residential use would violate wiretap laws
>	I do not agree with Suzanne Donovan. I think the privacy issue is 
>	important but ignores what citizens currently have to fight back
>	with when receiving harrassing phone calls.

The privacy issue is a smokescreen for the real reason Bell wants Caller
ID:

  It's an easy way for corporations to get caller databases.

...and *we'd* pay for the privilege! Think how many times you'd use CID
to 'screen' calls, or how many numbers you'd remember at a glance,
compared to the utility that, say, First Bank would receive...


-- 
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(512) 838-3926   VNET: MBROWN@AUSVMQ|Keep it right when you make it faster.
MAIL: mbrown@testsys.austin.ibm.com |Make it clear before you make it faster.
DISCLAIMER: My views may be, and often are, independent of IBM official policy.
From: byab305@chpc.utexas.edu (Steve Poole)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Romantic places to eat in Austin
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:05:11 GMT
Distribution: austin
Organization: UT Center for Space Research, Austin TX

We're looking for some suggestions for romantic places to eat in
Austin.  We have been to Green Pastures, Jeffrey's, and the Paggi
House.  We would like to try others.  Please send or post
recommendations, and a brief description if possible.  Thanks!

-- 
Steve Poole  
Center For Space Research
University of Texas at Austin
aoab305@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu  or  poole@kate.ae.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: austin.general
From: cmao760@chpc.utexas.edu (Chunyang Peng)
Subject: Mitsubishi for sale
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Distribution: austin
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:18:55 GMT

89 Mithubishi precis LS 
5 Door, AT AC 
AM/FM cassette, 
power steering,
runs like new.  
  $3,700.   OBO 
Moving must sell. 
Phone 322-0107
From: ofman@hagar.ph.utexas.edu (Leon Ofman)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: Bally's Health Club SUCKS Read this...
Date: 20 Nov 92 06:14:33 GMT
Organization: Institute for Fusion Studies, UT-Austin

I heard a lot of similar horror stories about Bally's Health Club in the Washington, DC area, so beware....
From: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com (Dewey Coffman)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: PUC: Caller ID illegal
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:10:59 GMT
Reply-To: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com
Distribution: austin
Organization: IBM, Austin, TX. US of A.

In article <1992Nov17.155715.26466@awdprime.austin.ibm.com>, mbrown@testsys.austin.ibm.com (Mark Brown) writes:
|> The privacy issue is a smokescreen for the real reason Bell wants Caller
|> ID:
|> 
..
|> ...and *we'd* pay for the privilege! Think how many times you'd use CID
|> to 'screen' calls, or how many numbers you'd remember at a glance,
|> compared to the utility that, say, First Bank would receive...

	You don't have to remember Phone Numbers, the little Caller ID
	boxes allow you to input names associated with the number OR
	plug it into you PeeCee and when the phone rings, you get all
	the same info on them(assuming they've called before and you
	logged the info into YOUR database).

	As far as paying for it. Don't subscribe to it. I *think* part of
	the deal with Caller ID is that anyone can turn off there number when
	they call(regardless of whether you've subscribed).

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From: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar)
Newsgroups: austin.general
Subject: Re: 2nd Annual Austin ReLeaf TreeAthalon
Date: 19 Nov 92 04:32:45 GMT
Reply-To: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

According to jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II):
>In <83395@ut-emx.uucp> jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (John Bodnar) writes:
>>Great, just what we need.  A fund raiser so that more trees can be planted
>>in Austin to release more airborne volatile organic compounds that are a
>>primary cause of air pollution and misery for allergy sferers.  Good
>>intentions that will end up leading to unsuspected problems.  When will
>>this city learn!
>
>With about 1,000 trees per person in Austin, adding another .00018 trees
>per Austin resident isn't going to harm the environment that much.
>
>Now, if every Austin resident did as I did and planted a Magnolia tree,
>then we'd have problems.  The city might start to smell better ;-)

Yeah, no thanks to the various phenolic, terpene, polynuclear aromatic
hydrocarbon (PAH), pyrrolizidine alkaloid, and diterpene ester compounds
produced in the leaves and barks of trees that enter the atmosphere by the
ton each and every day.  Many of these compounds are carcinogenic, but no
one seems to care about this.  No...nothing natural could cause cancer ;-)
-- 
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The University of Texas at Austin    : 
Internet: jbodnar@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu : Radioactive potassium & carbon that are
UUCP: ....!cs.utexas!ut-ccwf!jbodnar : naturally in us all keep us healthy.