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From: motto@bucknell.edu (john motto `94)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Help, my strings are killing me!!
Date: 27 Sep 1992 04:17:51 GMT
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, PA
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In article <1992Sep24.190939.17405@sequent.com>, peteg@sequent.com (Pete Gibson) writes:
|> How 'bout trying bulk strings.  I bought a bunch from Musician's Friend in
|> the gauges I like.  They have all the standard gauges in nickel, stainless,
|> stainless wound, and phosphor bronze wound.  The prices range from $2.97/dozen
|> for stainless unwound to $8.97/dozen for .56 phosphor bronze wound.  Unfortunately
|> their heaviest electric string is .46.  Worth a call for their catalog.  My order
|> was sent very quickly, and the strings seem to be of decent quality, though not
|> the finest.  I have had problems with their .22 stainless electric wound and .24
|> phosphor bronze wound acoustic (the G-strings on my guitars) breaking when I tune
|> up to Open-E or Open-A.
|> 
|> 
|> Enjoy,
|> 
|> Pete
|> 
|> 
|> 
|> In article <kkretsch.717346565@unix1.tcd.ie> kkretsch@unix1.tcd.ie (kevin patrick kretsch) writes:
|> >       I got big problems. I decided that a change of string was in
|> >order, so out with the cash and decided that D'addario XL J20's would be
|> >a nice change (0.010-0.049, I like a heavy bottom end). And it was
|> >a pretty good decision, they sound great! Only one problem. The G-string
|> >(0.022 gauge, wound) has to be bent over twice as far as the rest of the
|> >set to get the same change in pitch, which when using a lot of bluesy
|> >bends is at best annoying. The rest of the set behave themselves and
|> >bend just as any set of strings anywhere in the world would, but this
|> >G-string thinks that it's nylon and not steel!!
|> >
|> >What can I do, if anything??
|> >
|> >Also why do my strings break only when I'm tuning up and at the tuning
|> >post, never at the bridge??
|> >
|> >Thanks for your time!
|> >
|> >KEV.
|> >
|> 
|> 

If you have trouble breaking when you tune up to a G, tune down to a D instead.
it would be (from top to bottom), D, A, D, F#, A, D, and put a capo on the 2nd fret. 
I do this for "She Talks To Angels" and other songs I wrote.  In other words, 
instead of tuning "up" to a chord, tune "down", and capo.  

Just a thought...hope it helps!

Good luck!

John
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: ross-c@scs.leeds.ac.uk (R Clement)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers,comp.music,comp.dsp,sci.electronics
Subject: Re: ADDA10.ZIP uploaded (guitar effects units etc.)
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:15:32 GMT
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Distribution: inet
Organization: The University of Leeds, School of Computer Studies
Originator: ross-c@csparc12

In article <THEN.92Sep29165304@lk-hp-9.hut.fi> then@lk-hp-9.hut.fi (Tomi  H Engdahl) writes:
>In article <1a7844INN26h@news.aero.org> raffi@aero.org (Raffi Krikorian) writes:
>>The sounds pretty good.  But would the software work with the
>>sound blaster board?
>
>I don't think it would be possible. Sound Blaster is not able to 
>record and playback sounds at the same time.  So it is not possible
>without external hardware.

Couldn't you have two sound blasters in a single PC? I mean, they're cheap
enough.

[Disclaimer, please excuse if this is a stupid question, I don't know much
 about PC hardware]

Cheers,

Ross-c
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:8493 rec.music.makers:9938
From: dudek@acsu.buffalo.edu (David T. Dudek)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers,sunyab.misc.musicians
Subject: Read this if you have a Gallien-Krueger 250ML.
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:50:45 GMT
Organization: UB

Does adding speaker cabinets to the GK250ML make it louder, or at least
heard by the rest of the band when practicing?  Anyone ever done this
before?  I want to make two cabinets of two 10" 32-ohm speakers in parallel
(ie: 16-ohms / cabinet) from speakers that I have.  Any suggestions?
(Besides buying speakers or cabinets; if I had the money I wouldn't bother
myself, or the rest of you.)

 
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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:19:01 -0400 
From: John Adam Nimpfer <jn2i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Hagstrom

Can anyone out there tell me anything about these Swedish monsters?
I know Jimi Hendrix had a Hagstrom bass, but what about the guitars?
When were they made/discontinued? What is their value?  Are they good
instruments?  Thanks.
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Date: Tue,  6 Oct 1992 20:59:38 -0400 
From: Nicholas Weidmann <nw24+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: MARSHALL Guv'Nor

	I'm interested in buying a Marshall effect called
Guv'Nor (or something like that).


					Nicholas Weidmann
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 2 Oct 1992 09:51:25 CDT
From: <U58402@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Strat pickups
Distribution: usa
 <1992Oct1.135753.29231@cbfsb.cb.att.com>

In article <1992Oct1.135753.29231@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com
(steve.w.askew) says:
>
>        This is what Fender Frontline magazine (fall issue) says about the
>        above mentioned picksups, in regards to the new line of Custom Shop
>        Accessories.
>
>        " The `50's Strat set captures that bright sparkly tone of vitage
>        Fender Stratocasters, while the Texas Specials provide that classic
>        `Fat Strat' sound."
>
This implies that the Texas Specials were modeled after a production
run. Any idea of when the "classic fat Strat" sound pickups were first
made?


Wilbur Pan
(aka u58402@uicvm.uic.edu
 at the ever so friendly and personal univ. of ill. at chicago)
From: blave@netcom.com (David W. Blevins)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: lefty woes
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:52:17 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

I've been dealing with the lefty problem for the last twenty years; lots
o' sob stories.  My current tale of woe concerns Paul Reed Smith; I've
been keeping tabs on them for about three years and they still refuse to
retool to make lefties.  For two or three grand I would assume that
they'd WHITTLE the damn thing from a block of wood by hand, but what do
I know...

I am pretty familiar with Ibanez's lefty stuff.  They made my favorite 
model, the Sabre, in an L version during 1990, I believe.  I missed out
on that due to not knowing about it until they were all sold...  Bummer.
They have been making the RG550 and 560 for several years in L models;
I think this year the model numbers are slightly different.  They also
make one of their cool basses in an L.

The other guitar I'd love to have in an L is the Takamine slimline
cutaway acoustic/electric, or similar.  I have to make do with an
Ovation.  

So, to repeat a couple of things I posted in the last L discussion:
I'm looking for one of the above mentioned Sabres; finder's fee
is offered (to be negotiated); new or (preferably) used.  Also,
Completely tricked out Hohner (don't laugh) Strat copy L model with
EMG pickups, Washburn Wonderbar whammy, and chrome pickguard.  Good
condition, plays great.  $250.

Cheers, Blave.
From: U40643@uicvm.uic.edu (Ty Warner)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: RE: Norton guitars
Date: 26 Sep 92 07:14:05 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago

Subject should be "Norman."  Made in Canada, as was said earlier.  A salesman
told me they're all made in a small town that does nothing but make these.
I liked the woody tone, and the quality of the wood used, especially the
solid cedar top I played ($490).
From: acoggins@set.Princeton.EDU (Adam Cody Coggins)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Help needed on playing by ear...
Date: 29 Sep 92 17:37:17 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <1992Sep28.153902.12373@news.acns.nwu.edu> ddavis@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Donald Davis) writes:
>How exactly does one tell a G from a G/F#,G/D,G5,Gsus2, etc???  Some chords
>have a characteristic sound that I can recognize reasonable easily (Suspended
>4ths come to mind), but how does one navigate the maze of 7ths, 9ths, 11ths,
>13ths, major, minor, augmented, suspended, etc....to make it sound just like
>the record?

Good questions! If anyone has any easy solutions, please post them!

My suggestions:

- Many artists have certain favorite chords, and certain chords are
  much more common than others.  The basic Major, minor, 7ths, and
  "Power Chords" [root+fifth] are very common in rock and some other
  genres.  If you can also recognize diminished and augmented and
  suspended chords, you'll do great.  Then again, if you're trying
  to transcribe Jazz or Stravinski or Steve Vai, all bets are off.

- If you learn some music theory, you can antipate some progressions
  (e.g. I IV V I).  For many types of music, it really helps to 
  learn to refer to chords as roman numerals in a certan key.

- Most importantly, it takes lots of listening to develop these skills!
  Play chords on your guitar and on a piano and on a synth and on a
  computer and see what they sound like.  Experiment with progressions.
  Try transcribing chords.  See if you can learn to tell which
  note is in the bass-- the root of the chord, the third, etc.

Good luck!  I'm also working on learning all of these things.

-Cody Coggins <acoggins@phoenix.princeton.edu>

  
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: mason@dante.uucp (Mason Jones)
Subject: Re: Volume pedal in FX loop
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 20:28:26 GMT
Organization: Charnel House

dstoll@aragon.stgt.sub.org (Dieter Stoll) writes:
: Ever since I started playing electric I have always had a volume pedal in
: the amp's FX loop. So, to turn down or crank up the volume, I never really
: use the guitar's volume pot (it's always full up).
: {...}
: What do YOU think? Anyone using a volume pedal like this?

Whenever I play live, I always have the volume pedal after the distortion
boxes, but before going into my rack.  I use it rather than the
guitar's pot so I keep the guitar's gain up.  It's one of my most
indispensible items for controlling feedback and having the greatest
control over my volume without having to worry about the soundman
at the place I'm playing.


  VVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVV
             Mason Jones           Charnel House Productions
             P.O. Box 170277, San Francisco 94117-0277 U.S.A.
   ...{uunet,sun}!hoptoad!dante!mason   or   dante!mason@hop.toad.com
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From: till@acid-rain.lucid.com (Don Tillman)
Subject: Re: Building your own (ONBOARD PREAMP!)
Reply-To: till@lucid.com
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
	<1992Sep20.232439.25546@Princeton.EDU> <19r3vgINNdok@network.ucsd.edu>
	<pquince.717348835@blacks>
Date: 28 Sep 92 10:14:49

   Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1992 15:33:55 GMT
   From: pquince@blacks.jpl.nasa.gov (Peter Quince)
   Organization: Image Analysis Systems Group, JPL

   Along these lines (and I will reiterate this in a separate article), 
   I have finished putting together the onboard preamp spec'd out in _The
   Guitar Handbook_.  A prelim wire up indicated that it does indeed work.
   In a couple few days I will do the jury rig hook up and fuss with the
   adjustment pot.  The big questions then will be:

     o what will the gain be? (which i asked myself as i started)

0.8 dB gain with the adjustment pot at minimum, 20.8 dB with the adjustment
pot at maximum.

     o is it noisy?

Depends upon the opamp you use.  For a TL071, somewhat noisy.  For a 741,
extremely noisy.  

     o what kind of a whammy does it put on the signal?

It'll sound okay to lame depending upon the opamp used.

I personally don't like the sound of opamp-based preamp circuits.  The
noises and distortions they produce are annoying and umusical and when
overdriven their clipping sounds very buzzy and recovery is ungraceful.
For me a discrete FET circuit is the best way to go and, as a side effect,
is only half the space (4 resistors, 1 fet, 1 cap, less wiring, add a cap
and a pot if you need the gain adjustment).

  -- Don

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: peugh@wam.umd.edu (Haig Herkenflirtz)
Subject: John McLaughin
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:57:31 GMT



  I just got "Shakti" and is just an incredable album!  I was wondering what's
the deal with his guitar.  It seems to have some strings going accross the
normal six.  Also is his guitar in standard tuning on this album?


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From: parlier@jpl-devvax.jpl.nasa.gov (Randy Parlier)
Subject: *** 500 Watt Rockman 4 SALE ****
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory (NASA)
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 00:34:56 GMT



	FOR SALE!!:

	RockMan SD12CEM-500 STEREO HEAD

		-Capable of up to 500 Watts of stereo Power
	Includes:

		-Stereo Echo
		-Stereo Chorus
		-Distortion Generator
		-Instrument EQ
		-Midi Octopus
		-Sustainor
		-Midi Pedal
		-500 Watt Power Amp and Case

	The amp has hardly been used.  It sells for at least $2500
	brand new (with Midi Pedal).

	Make me a reasonable offer.

	Randy Parlier
	(818)354-1454
	(714)838-0872
	parlier@puente.jpl.nasa.gov

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Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Date: Mon,  5 Oct 1992 20:52:07 -0400 
From: Haw Juin Lin <hl27+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Ibanez Price
Distribution: alt

But the price ranges from 250 new to 1200 new for the guitars in the RG series.

So 250 used may be a good price for a certain RG guitar, but maybe not
for another RG guitar...

Later
Merlin

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: tom@cpac.washington.edu (Tom May)
Subject: Re: Help needed on playing by ear...
Organization: Center for Process Analytical Chemistry, UW
	<1992Sep28.153902.12373@news.acns.nwu.edu>
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 06:19:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.153902.12373@news.acns.nwu.edu> ddavis@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Donald Davis) writes:

   Also, any tips on how to pick out the notes in those blazing fast solos??

Tape it and play it back at half speed (e.g., record at 15 inches per
second and play back at 7.5 inches per second).  The only side effect
is that it will come out an octave down.


--
Tom May
tom@cpac.washington.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Why tubes? (was Re: Building effects units for gu
From: haley@husc10.harvard.edu (Elizabeth Haley)
Date: 1 Oct 92 09:24:14 GMT
 6112@camelot> <1992Sep30.060503.15961@husc3.harvard.edu> <TILL.92Sep30092630@acid-rain.lucid.com>
Distribution: na

till@acid-rain.lucid.com (Don Tillman) writes:

>What book is this?  What does it say specifically?
The Guitar Handbook by Ralph Denyer

>A single common-emmiter bipolar transistor stage actually has more 2nd
>harmonic than 3rd, a push-pull tube output stage is almost entirely odd
>order distortion, and early transistor amps had a lot of even order
>distortion.  (I believe the source of this misconception is an incorrectly
>applied electrical engineering class example having to do with the Fourier
>analysis of the exponential transfer function of an idealized single
>bipolar transistor stage.)
Egads, I had to think for a bit to understand that last sentence...
I've never been near a Fourier Analyst, save for my S.O.
As far as sound goes, I just twang away, and buy what I like...
I'll leave the weird mathmatical amplifier stuff to the EE's, and
stick with CS in school...

>What I'm saying here is that the ratio of even to odd harmonics has little
>to do with the sound of a guitar amp.

>   With the advent of digital gear, it *IS* possible to have your setup
>   sound just Like a Marshall stack *IF* your amp is *incredibly* clean
>   and not overdriven. 

>Well no, digital distortion is mighty problematic due to aliasing and all.
>(Digital distortion of a band limited signal will create harmonics out of
>band, which'll be aliased down to non-harmonic frequencies and sound pretty
>bad.)  Best to stick with analog here.  
I didn't say *cheap* digital gear :-)
Vaguely Seriously, the only thing I care about is what it sounds like
when I plug in and play... As it happens I play over a Crate CR-1
which is very transisiter, and very nice...

When I have plugged into Fender Tube amps, I thought the sound was
whiny and over bright... Same for a Marshall Stack... So there's mud
in your eye, cause I know for a fact the guy who owned the stack loves
the sound, and I value his opinion... But I never mix it up with
mine...

>  -- Don
From: weidmann@disuns2.epfl.ch (Nicolas Weidmann)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Strat pickups
Date: 27 Sep 92 03:24:20 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne



                What is the difference in the kind of sound produced
        by the Texas special pickups and those used on the vintage
        reissues ?
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: evh5150@camelot.bradley.edu (Andrew Eckhart)
Subject: Re: Why tubes? (was Re: Building effects units for gu
Organization: Bradley University
Distribution: na
Date:  6 Oct 92 20:04:42 GMT

In <TILL.92Oct6111302@acid-rain.lucid.com> till@acid-rain.lucid.com (Don Tillman) writes:

>   From: evh5150@camelot.bradley.edu (Andrew Eckhart)
>   Organization: Bradley University
>   Date:  6 Oct 92 01:31:23 GMT

>   Well here it is... and I quote from the book Guitar Gear, a Guitar Player
>   book, edited by John Brosh, Quill Publishing, copyright 1985 pages 194, and 207:
>[...]

>   And yes... I'm an EE.

>As an EE I'm sure you can understand that a Guitar Player publication that
>just spits back inaccurate generalizations doesn't make it as a technical
>reference.  Howzabout something from the Journal of the Audio Engineering
>Society, the IEEE Transactions, or something of that level?  

Well I believe that it would be extremely hard to find stuff about guitar
amp distortion on publications of that level, just because people who write
that are talking about equipment where distortion is a big green monster
that they want to get rid of. I do remember discussing this with my high
school physics teacher once, and he reiterated the very same points that I
posted before. Granted I am not far enough into my EE progam to be able to
go test it for myself, but I would think that Guitar Player would not just
print something like that and not have checked their facts. They have the
best amp wizards writing for their columns. If you can find better
documentation, then by all means, I'd be interested in it, but I don't think
that what I've found can be discredited. 

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From: pkor@phoenix (Pasi Korhonen)
Subject: Re: Tom Anderson guitars
Organization: Ripoff Industries
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 19:11:14 GMT

>i'm the only one i know that's tried an Anderson. So, someone out there in
>netland should go try one and tell me if they're really as great as i
>think, or if it's just my imagination.

	Yep, I've played them and they're fantastic...

	Pasi


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From: mik@hpbbi4.BBN.HP.COM (#Michele Isernia)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Acoustic guitar suggestions..
Date: 1 Oct 92 16:02:49 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard GmbH

I'm looking for a couple of "simple" suggestions:

1) what are the best acoustic guitar "brands" and models
   in the US

2) where are the best shops in Boston, NewYork, Denver area.

Thanks for any direct reply.

Mik
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Subject: Re: tiny playable guitar kits
Organization: Logic Modeling Inc of Beaverton Oregon
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 18:30:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.145444.1@cstp.umkc.edu> loman@cstp.umkc.edu writes:
>What I want to know is if there is a company or whoever that makes these kits,
>or tiny guitars.  The bloody thing cost near 200 bucks, but I thought it was
>the cutest little axe in the 'hood.

    Stewart MacDonalds sells mini Strats, Teles, Les Pauls, Explorers, and
    a P-Bass.  Scale length is 16 1/2", 17 frets.  The bass (22 1/2" scale)
    can't be tuned standard; must be tuned up a 4th or more.

    Cost is about $165 except for the Les Paul at $220.

    Ph:  1-800-848-2273 (orders) or 1-614-592-3021 (inquiries)
    Stewart MacDonald's Guitar Shop Supply
    21 N. Shafer St.
    Box 900
    Athens,  OH  45701

    - Larry Huntley

-- 
         (larryh@lmc.com)         | She made champagne out of 7-Up and
     Logic Modeling Corporation   |       cheap wine.  A chemist! 
          Beaverton,  OR          |  - "Earth To Doris" [Was (Not Was)]
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Strat pickups
Summary: Texas vs Vintage
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:57:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Sep27.022703@disuns2.epfl.ch>, weidmann@disuns2.epfl.ch (Nicolas Weidmann) writes:
> 
> 		What is the difference in the kind of sound produced
> 	by the Texas special pickups and those used on the vintage
> 	reissues ?

	This is what Fender Frontline magazine (fall issue) says about the
	above mentioned picksups, in regards to the new line of Custom Shop 
	Accessories. 

	" The `50's Strat set captures that bright sparkly tone of vitage 
	Fender Stratocasters, while the Texas Specials provide that classic 
	`Fat Strat' sound."

	Listen to Robert Cray. Thats your classic position 2(middle+bridge)
	vintage sound. Listen to SRV's Lenny, life Without You or Riviera 
	Paradise for the Fat Strat sound. Try to pick out the clean notes
	(non-distorted) as they are a better representation of what the pickups
	sound like. If all else fails go to your local guitar store and play a 
	SRV and a 62 reissue.

	Steve
	Doin That Blues ThAng!
From: gutzmann@acri.fr (Kurt Gutzmann)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Need a beginner's guitar.
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:04:06 GMT
Reply-To: gutzmann@acri.fr
Organization: Advanced Computer Research Institute

In article 100050IO20706@MAINE.MAINE.EDU, IO20706@MAINE.MAINE.EDU () writes:
>Hello everybody!
>     I'm looking for a used beginner's guitar (not a electric guitar),
>since I am a beginner myself.  I will pay about $100 for it (sorry, I
>can only afford that much).  Any information will be appreciated.
>You can also reach me by E-mail.
>Thanks.                            David

There was quite a bit of discussion in here lately on this same topic,
try catching up on it.  I suggest a used classical guitar, probably
an inexpensive yamaha type, nylon strings so you won't kill your fingers.


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