From: hooker@aristotle.ils.nwu.edu ( BOB HOOKER)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.misc,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.elections,alt.pol
Subject: Re: Bob Hooker's possibly fraudulent use of the campaign project's mai
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:30:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: ILS

In article <1992Nov5.023534.29606@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>,
scasburn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven M Casburn) writes:

>      First off, because I don't think Hooker made this clear, I was appalled by
> his use of the term "apes". True, he (or, more precisely, the persona he 
> assumed) never explicitly said "blacks are apes", but he didn't have to. There 
> is nothing "vague" about that term, just as there is nothing vague about words 
> like "spade" and "chink". I suggest, Mr. Hooker, that you get away from the 
> genteel North Side and head down to the South or West Sides of Chicago, where 
> those words have very direct and explicit meanings. Perhaps you'd be a little 
> less naive then.

1.  I lived on the South Side for 2 years, and was a West side social
worker for one year.   
2.  The vague comment was parody,  parody,  was trying to get a rise out of
you people.  
3.  I would agree the word ape may have a very clear meaning when coming
from the mouth of a right wing republican.

But then again all I can do is quote our great former President,  I made a
mistake and I admit it and I won't do it again, so now it is over.  Alll of
those things have been dealt with,  I have answered those.  Anyway it was
the Repulicans that made me do it,  just as Democrats like to raise taxes
therefore the Democrats forced Bush to raise taxes,  Republicans are also
more racist then Democrats,  therefore Republicans made me racist.

Of course for the past 12 Reagan Bush had held power in part by playing on
white Americas subtle racists feelings.  At times it was not even that
subtle, as in 1988.  I just could not resist the temptation to mess around
alittle.   


>      Mr. Hooker claims he was fighting a great evil with his posts and that he
> felt that by wrecking the "bush-org" mail server, he could do some great damage 
> to the Bush cause. Because of this overriding need, he claims, his lies and his
> misuse of Usenet were somehow justified.
>      I agree with Mr. Hooker that the Religious Right is a major problem, but I
> question what he thought he could accomplish with his little game. What power
> did he think we dozen or so college students, thrown together at the last
> minute and disorganized, could have to affect the election? Did he actually
> think that destroying our little group would change anything? If he did, I
> think he was deluded; if he didn't, I think he was just being spiteful.

Well when I entered the group I thought that maybe it had some power,  but
I agree it turned out to be a pathetic failure.  SO I just decided to have
some fun.

In fact pathetic was an understatement for the group.  A small group of
children acting politics was better.  A fantasy game where Bush/Quayle
supported reproductive rights and the religious right didn't exist.  This
group of infants created an alternate Republican party where all the bad
things about republicans did not exist,  where support for Bush was easy. 
I just could not help inserting a little reality via lies into your little
dream world.

Also how ridiculous does something have to get on this group before people
figure out that they are being joked with? 


>      Read that second post of Hooker's that I copied in above. He wrote about
> the "amusing" things that he did, one of which was lying about my positions and
> calling me a spy. I don't find that amusing. I find it pathetic, especially
> when I consider how little he could accomplish by smearing me in such a
> way.

Well if my parody of a bigot saying to you that you were a Democrat is
considered by you to be a smear (?) then I must say I am sorry.  Really I
think you should be proud of yourself,  you were the only one in that group
that really stood up to evil Bob.


>      The sad thing is that, even though I now realize that I probably agree
> with Hooker on quite a few things, I don't like him any more than I did when he
> was just "Bob", telling us all that we were going to Hell and taking the GOP
> with us. His true personality and the personality of his persona don't seem to
> differ very much; it's only the political views that change. Being a liberal
> doesn't make someone a good person and being religious doesn't make someone a
> bad person. Many Democrats seem to need to learn this; Bob Hooker is one of
> them.
>

Oh really,  ghee I thought that all liberals are good people.  you mean
that just because someone is a liberal they may be a bad person?  The
thought never occurred to me at all.  Wow you are really really smart Steve
to understand anything as deep as the fact that all liberals are not
necessarily good,  how did you get so smart to be able to understand such
very very deep things.  I am so lucky that you said this to me because I
always thought that all liberals are good people and now I see that maybe
there are some liberals who are bad people.  Thank You

I think most intelligent was your understanding that being religious does
not make someone bad,  wow how did you ever figure something out that
intelligent,  you must be so very very very bright, perhaps the brightest
person at Ohio State.  Such brilliance,  to a simple mind as myself it
would never have occurred to think that religious people might be non-evil.
 The implications blow my mind,  does that mean that Mother Theressa and
Gahndi may be non evil.  Boy you are smart.

You are also correct in saying that I think all people who believe in God
are bad,  I have said this all the time,  in fact just the other day I was
talking about how bad people who believe in God are.  And of course you are
also right in saying that I think all liberals are good.  Just yesterday I
was thinking about how odd it is that every single liberal I have meet in
my life has been such a good person.

thank you Steve,  you are so smart to 
1. relieve that not all liberals are good
2. relieve that not all religious people are bad
3. and to figure out that clearly I thought that they were.



Brilliant.



 
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