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From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Leaving a puppy alone - bad idea?
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 06:46:04 GMT

In article <1gi31aINNdit@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ce293@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gail E. Brookhart) writes:
}>Or, how about an older puppy or a retired show dog from a breeder?
}>Many breeders hand onto a pup, hoping to show it, or keep it for breeding,
}>only to have it not mature out to their expectations.  Is the dog bad? No,
}>just short of expectations and in need of a home.  Some show dogs that aren't
}>going to be used in a breeding program are placed after they finish.  They
}>can make wonderful pets.

Well, here's *another* vote for rescue dogs. My never-had-a-dog wife fell
in love with Studley when he strayed up to my sister's house in Texas, and
as a wedding present I had him flown from Austin, TX to San Jose, CA for
her. [NOTE: Never try to arrange such a transfer when you are on a business
trip in Washington, D.C.!] Studley is a strong-willed, one-of-a-kind,
beautiful 3/4 Black Lab 1/4 Blue Heeler. I have pictures of him walking
around on top of evergreen shrubs as a pup; he is a wonderful water fanatic.

Later we wanted Studley to have company during the day, so we got George
at the local humane society. He had been adopted earlier but returned (owner
said he did not have time for a dog after all). George is a wonderful dog;
incredibly voice-responsive, huggable, and cute (not necessarily in that
order).

Here's to rescue dogs!
-- 
Curtis Jackson  DoD #721   '62 Yankee Brunette "Dorothy"    '81 Maxim 650
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com   '91 Black Lab "Studley"  '92 Collie/Golden "George"
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
From: mlinda@novell.com (M'Linda Taylor)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dognapping near St. Louis
Keywords: Tattoo
Date: 11 Dec 92 17:49:42 GMT
Organization: Novell Inc., Austin, TX.

In article <seale.724088516@bcserv> seale@bcserv.wustl.edu (Seale (Jeff)) writes:
>The reporter suggested tattooing your dogs with your SS# or AKC#.
>Do the scum that buy these dogs really care if the dogs are marked?
>Would they not buy a marked dog? I tend to think they would anyway?
>Just thought the net.StLouis folks might want to know.
>-Jeff Seale
>
>

The breeder I got my Shelties from suggests the SSN be tattooed inside
a hip.  I hate to say it but scum selling to labs will *cut* a tattoed
ear off the dog.  A research facility will NOT accept a dog that has
a tattoo.  My understading is that stealing a non-tattooed dog is a 
misdemeanor while stealing a tattooed dog is a FELONY!!!!

Nasty nasty people out there.  %<

M'Linda
Dog-Mom to "Ivan-the-not-so-brave & Mindy-the-HUGGY"
Mom-Cat to "Rio-the-LOUD and Mouse-the-PERSISTANT"

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From: lingz@robin.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Ling.Zhao)
Subject: Dog searching and eating food off the counter when nobody at home
Keywords: dog, food, counter top
Reply-To: lingz@robin.SanDiego.NCR.COM (Ling.Zhao)
Organization: NCR Corporation, Rancho Bernardo
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:20:27 GMT

My 2.5 year old golden retriever would search and eat food off counter top
when no one is home.  We can not catch him in the "act" because he never
does it when somebody is home.  One time he even turn on the gas in the
kitchen.  We've tried to block access to the kitchen with chairs. But 
recently the fellow figured out a way to the kitchen by slowly moving his
body underneath the chairs (we caught it with a camcorder).

Any advice?

Thanks.

Ling

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: sd007b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Sunil Dixit)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Dog meets Snow, how do you do...
Date: 18 Dec 92 03:52:25 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


We brought our golden pup home during a HUGE Ontario lake-effect snowstorm
in February.  Up to that point he had pretty much been indoors for most of
his 9 week life, and he leaped out of the small red crate we brought him
home in.  There can't be a cuter scene at any time in life.  Being only
about five inches tall, and the snow about a fluffy 16 inches deep, he
bounded and disappeared, bounded and disappeared, his tiny ears and
diminutive tail waving crazily.  He didn't yap or whine or anything, he just
jumped about.  I kind of miss my huge mutt (as I affectionately regard the
12 year old now) being that tiny, hyperactive puppy.  When he was winded, he
sat and stared at the sky, snapping at the lazy snowflakes.  His nose
started to get cold, I guess, because we brought an old boot out for him to
play with, and he just stuck his nose into it.  Hold on I gotta get a
tissue...

Sunil Dixit, stuck with this massive brute of a wimpy golden retriever

(Raja's self esteem's intact, he can't read!)
From: primeaux@carlsberg.cs.utk.edu (David Primeaux)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Name the Puppy Contest...)
Date: 11 Dec 1992 21:21:09 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
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In another post, Marla Belzowski   saavik@mentor.cc.purdue.edu says:

[ bunches of literary references deleted for sake of bandwidth ] 

|> Another source of good names can be found in works by Johnathan Swift.
|> You may also look in works by R. Kipling, and Herman Melville.
|> OR even David Copperfield.  
|> 
|> Hope these help!


Am I missing something?  Perhaps a body of literature prestidigitized away
with aid of smoke and mirrors?  I've seen David Copperfield's act and was
pretty amazed at some of his -- dare I say it -- "tricks", but I never knew
he was an author!
				-- Fagan
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: julia@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu (Julia Kim)
Subject: Flexi Tie-Out:  Does it work?
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 02:37:49 GMT

I'm thinking of getting a Flexi Tie-Out for our dog.  Does anyone out
there know if it works, that is, do the tie-out and dog stay
untangled?  I've also seen tie-outs that look like coiled telephone
cords.  Do these work?

Our dog has never been tied out/up outside.  We're visiting my in-laws
this Christmas.  THEY like to see our dog cavorting around their
unfenced yard, unencumbered by a leash, FREE, free to vandalize the
neighbors' yards, to get run over, to run away, forever!  I, being the
stick in the mud that I am, like to follow leash laws.  As a
compromise, I thought I'd bring a LONG tie-out.

I'd appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks in advance,
Julia
From: janicki@gblaut.enet.dec.com (Victoria Janicki)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: OFA - Is it worth appealing?
Date: 17 Dec 92 15:16:37 GMT
Reply-To: janicki@tuxedo.enet.dec.com
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Littleton,MA





In article <1gp17hINNq9b@nigel.msen.com> you write:
|
|>
|>: (4) The xrays are compared to xrays of other members of a particular breed.
|>: German Shepherd hips are not compared to Greyhound hips, but compared to
|>: the breed as a whole. So even if you look at pictures from other breeds,
|>: it is hard to tell what your individual dog would rate.
|>
|>X-rays are also compared within age groups.
|>
|>There is a very good book on dysplasia by Fred Lanting.  I think it is
|>titled Canine Hip Dysplasia and is from Alpine Publications.  I'll double
|>check and correct if necessary, but I'm pretty sure that is right.
|>
|>Karen
|>
|>

Yup, Karen is correct. I had forgotten that part. Thanks.

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Date: Thu, 10 Dec 92 11:09:00 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Re: Puria Dog Chow
Comment-To: Goddess_of_Litigation@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
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 > Are you aware that you can respond directly to an individual
 > sender
 > by using "R"? It seems that many of your answers are
 > irritating
 > network readers and I thought you might want to know how to
 > respond
 > to someone privately without sending the message to the
 > entire
 > network. I am not an expert on computers, but "R" works for
 > me.
 > By the way, what is your background - are you working in the
 > veterinary sciences? I ask only because you have so much
 > information
 > about many different diseases, etc.
 > 
 > Regards!
  Admittedly, I'm not real clear on the details of UseNet, and or
newsgroups.  From this particular board, in order to send E mail, I
must tell my sysop separately that I have E mail to send.
  I have had a lifelong interest in animals of all kinds, domestic
animals in particular.  In addition to animals, I have an ongoing
interest in health issues, both in our animal pals and in humans.  I
am a massage therapist by vocation.
  I have also been active on national pet echos, where my views are
not considered extreme.
  It was never my intent to ruffle the feathers of excessively
sensitive newsgroup members.  It is not my fault that a different view
reduces some of these individuals the level of spewing infants.
  I don't think it is a bad thing to offer several different kinds of
solutions to pet related situations, or any other situation for that
matter.  
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From: abb@unislc.uucp (Anne Beck)
Subject: Chocolate (real) Labs
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:14:50 GMT

For those of you with Labradors or those of you who have friends
with Labs, here's the perfect gift:  a Chocolate Lab from Eddie
Bauer!  I got a bunch for friends last night -- they're great!
I don't know if anyone will actually eat it, they're so pretty,
but they certainly look and smell good.

Anyway, the order number for Eddie Bauer is 1-800-426-8020.
The catalogue number for the labs is N22 280 M167.  The listed
price is $18, but the store was selling them for $8.99.

Fun stuff.
-- 
   Anne Beck			| The difference between difficult
   abb@unislc  sun!unislc!abb   | dogs & vicious human beings is
   Unisys  SLC UT               | that difficult dogs don't rise to 
			        | prominent positions in the community.
From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: flying with GSDX puppy (Sherpa Bag?)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 20:31:24 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Kyler Laird (laird@stable.ecn.purdue.edu) wrote: : I just adopted a stray
from my vet back home. 

: So...I'm going to Florida over break to cable (Ethernet) my sister's new
: home.  Gretta (the pup) has been with me constantly, and I'd like to
: take her along.  I'd rather not have to drug her, and throw her in the
: cargo area, so I asked about transport in the cabin with me.

: The airline (ATA) said that I could take her in a container that fits
: in the carry-on space (8"x13"x22").  This doesn't sound like much room
: for a flight to Florida.  She's about three months old, and ~22 lbs.
: I haven't tried to find/make a box of the max. size yet, but I did
: notice Sherpa Bags that are approved on certain airlines and come in
: a large size ($79).  These look interesting, but I don't want to force
: my pup into an unpleasant trip.

: Advice and stories will be appreciated!

Check with the airline in advance.  I have been told by people who fly
regularly with cats that most will not allow nsoft sided carriers in the
cabin.  Alsoi most will only allow one animal in the cabin per flight 
so make the reservation ahead of time.  Make sure that they will allow 
your pup in your carrier on your flight.  I knew a woman with a small breed
pup who was told that the pup was too big for the carrier that was allowed
in cabin as she checked her luggage.  I would also plan on having
tranquilizers on hand.

BTW, the correct spelling is shepherdn not shepard. :)

Good luck and have fun,

Karen
From: drai0001@student.tc.umn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Deer Whistles (was Re: Hearing ultrasound?
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:33:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: news2.1992Dec16.173334.7255
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <1gnh1iINNlde@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> jfox@hooksett.East.Sun.COM writes:
>
>
>
>I've heard these devices do more harm than good, which your note seems to
>imply. I don't have the reference handy, but some state yanked them off
>their cruisers when they found the number of cruiser-deer collisions went
>*up* after employing these whistles! You want something to scare them away,
>not perk their interest - which is what they do.
>
>
>John
>

They definitely do not work, I have yet to see a deer blowing a deer
whistle. But, I have heard of a few smashing into cars trying  :) :) 

Doug
From: hurf@boa.graphics.cornell.edu (Hurf Sheldon)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: DOG  NEEDS A HOME NOW - Ithaca, N.Y.
Date: 18 Dec 1992 17:46:47 GMT
Organization: Cornell University Program of Computer Graphics
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: boa.graphics.cornell.edu

	18mo old nutered male black lab, hound, ?? mix. Excellent
	tracker. Good disposition. This dog is not working out
	for our family - he is killing all the small animals in
	the neighborhood, may have done in a deer on his own. 
	Nightime barking is incessant unless he is inside and he
	will not come in when called if he is out barking. 

	This dog needs a single person to take a loving interest in
	him. Please no suggestions on what to do to keep him. It is
	not an option.



-- 
     Hurf Sheldon			 Network: hurf@graphics.cornell.edu
     Program of Computer Graphics	 Phone:   607 255 6713 work
	Cornell University, Ithaca, N.Y.	   607 533 4974 home
      
     
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: morss@ssd.kodak.com (Charlie Morss)
Subject: Follow-up to puppy training
Organization: Ektron, a division of Eastman Kodak, Co.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:45:48 GMT

A while back there was a conversation on when to start a 
puppy with their lessons (and when to use a choke collar).

I may get flamed for this but I use a choke collar on 
my 13 and a half week old choc. lab and he is doing very
well. He responses to both voice and hand signals for
sit, stay, come, and heal (heals alittle shaky still).
And we're working on the whistle also for when out in 
the field (so he can be handled when retreiving).

I use the collar for "reminders" - a slight pull back
and up if he doesn't sit after a couple of seconds, same
thing, but foward, if he doesn't heal when told to. I 
never use it for punishment!!

He comes when called, on or off the lease, inside or out
and from a long way away. And someone said that making a 
young dog stay for too long was not good, my pup will
stay for over 3 minutes! and then come running when called. 

I usually do 2 lessons a day, about 5 or 10 minutes in the
morning, and then 15 or 20 minutes in the evening. If he 
seems to be getting bored we play fetch in the middle of the
lesson and work some commands into it to keep his interest.

I'm also very careful not to punish for something he may not
really "know" (like heal or lay down). 

I'm following the training guidelines of Wolters, he wrote
a number of books back in the mid 60's! I've also read 
a number of newer books but my pup (and my previous dog)
both seem to do better with this method. 

Now that I've told you how good my pup is, I'll add to it
a little problem I'm having. The first is lay down. He doesn't
seem to be getting this very well (yes, I know he's young). I've
tried all the methods I've read about with no luck. Every time
I gently pull his front legs out and set him down he thinks
I'm playing and then starts rolling around! Any ideas?

Also, as he gets a little older he is starting to get more
independent and doesn't always come running when called, he'd
rather stay outside and do all those important things puppies
do! He will always come but sometimes I have to tell him a 
few times (and sometimes in the house he just wanders over to
me sort of slowly). 

I realize my problems are trival, especially for such a young
dog, but any suggestions would be helpful (and please don't
flame me to much for my methods, they seem to work and have 
worked well for a number of my fathers dogs as well). 

Waiting for your responses,

Charlie  



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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: kmurphy@orangutan.cv.nrao.edu (Kim Murphy)
Subject: Re: Will late castration affect my dog's behaviour?
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 22:22:29 GMT

Our husky was neutered at two years.  It didn't change his behavior in
any way, including the sexual, except that the behavior became less
frequent.  He also became a little more sociable.

Kim Murphy
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: IOC0008@MVS.UDEL.EDU (KATHY)
Subject: DOGS & CATS
Reply-To: RE
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:22:00 GMT

I NEED HELP!  I HAVE A THREE YEAR OLD VERY SPOILED BLACK
LAB MIX WHO I LOVE DEARLY.  MY HUSBAND WANTS TO ADOPT
A KITTEN AND I DON'T KNOW IF THIS COULD WORK.  HAS
ANY BODY EVER DONE IT & IF SO HOW?
From: Valaria_Vorlop@mindlink.bc.ca (Valaria Vorlop)
Subject: Re: Opinions on breed.
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 19:40:17 GMT

> Anne Beck writes:
> I've seen too many dogs, including Newfoundlands, relegated almost
> solely to the back yard "because that's where dogs belong."  And
> they're unsocialized, unhappy, and unhealthy.  Better to live in
> an apartment and get some attention, love, and exercise on the
> end of a leash.


Well, as another apartment doggie owner, I thought I'd better add my support
:) I have a one-bedroom of about 700 square feet, two cats, an S.O. and two
dogs. We DID live in a rental house for my doberman's first year, and like
the Newf's described above he had NO use for the yard if I wasn't out there
with him, he'd pee and then come to the door and whine to be let in again.

I know two people with a German Shepherd each. One lives in a basement suite
no bigger than my apartment and also with no yard. She has a happy, well
adjusted dog. The other GSD has a large yard, but is rarely let into the
house because she sheds :( She has demolished the yard, the fence, the back
door, etc. barks at strangers and pulls on the leash when taken for walks.

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: honig@cs.cornell.edu (Sue Utter Honig)
Subject: Re: Toys...(was Re: Kong???)
Keywords: kong, retrieve
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 21:17:26 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.195100.21205@newshost.lanl.gov> srlee@beta.lanl.gov (Stephen R Lee) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.180506.5286@newshost.lanl.gov> davids@gardener.lanl.gov (David G. Simmons) writes:
>>
>>After reading this thread on Kongs, I wonder if anyone else has
>>expereince with the "(almost) Indestructible Ball" from R.C.
>>Steele.  I got one for McDuff the wonder Beardie.  He seems
>

A woman I know has an AmStaff who *loves* playing with one of these
balls.  Unfortunately, she claims he broke a tooth from this habit.
They *are* hard.

My dogs never cared for theirs, unless you were actively moving it for
them.  Then they still lost interest fairly quickly.  YMMV...

Sue Utter Honig
honig@cs.cornell.edu
From: drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu (David Gutierrez)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
Subject: Re: Opinions on dog sleeping arrangements
Date: 11 Dec 1992 20:42:38 GMT
Organization: Univ. Texas M.D. Anderson Cancer Center

We have always allowed our dogs to sleep on their own beds in our room. Wurzi
always insisted that her bed be near the door, so that she could sleep facing
it to protect us - even after she couldn't walk any more.

David Gutierrez
drg@biomath.mda.uth.tmc.edu

"Only fools are positive." - Moe Howard

Newsgroups: rec.pets.dogs
From: feldman@cs.tulane.edu (Damon Feldman)
Subject: Looking for Schutzhund around Wash DC
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-5085]: venus
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:05:11 GMT

I'm going to be in Suburban Maryland around DC for a couple weeks near
Chritmas.  Does anyone know any Schutzhund club conntacts in that area?
I'd like to see how those clubs work, if I can.

I won't be on the net for a while, so please call me at (301) 593-2606
from Wednsday night on (tomorrow) if you know anyone.

Thanks,
Damon

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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 10:01:01 -0800
From: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Subject: Re: Dogs and bedding
Comment-To: Judith_Van_Noate@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Reply-To: ELAINE_GALLEGOS@f703.n202.z1.fidonet.org
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 > >
 >  
 > Mine get newspapers.  They get three or four whole newspapers
 > which they
 > then turn into nest material.  Sometimes I change it daily
 > and sometimes
 > it stays longer.  I find that the frequent replacement of
 > bedding is
 > an excellent flea deterrant.  I get discarded newspapers from
 > the
 > library where I work and try to avoid colored ink.  Wall
 > Street Journal
 > and the New York Times are the best.  I have to take staples
 > out of them
 > before I can use them.  I would prefer to use blankets, but
 > with animals
 > that eat blankets and animals that have "accidents"
 > newspapers are a
 > good substitute and are probably somewhat more comfortable
 > than bare
 > metal or wire grates (in the airline crates).
 > Judith
 > --- rfmail 1.1.J
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 > (1:202/723)
  Why, newspapers is such a good idea.  I was just thinking about the
situation of the dog shredding a perfectly good blanket or a nice
piece of carpeting.  When I saw what you wrote about the newspapers, I
got to thinking that I was looking at shredding behavior from a human
viewpoint as a bad and distructive thing. Actually, it is probably an
instinctive thing in the dog as a way of making a warm bed for itself.
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