From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Subject: It happened again
Date: 1 Oct 1992 19:31:17 GMT
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Silly mailers, these tricks are for the CIA.:-(  
I'm beginning to feel like the local postmaster....
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Gretchen:

Its difficult for Asian students to accept community and individuality
together....  A sense of community exists for the Asian when the Asian
feels that group harmony is at the top of the value system of the
group (sacrifice individual choice for the sake of the group) and
individuality does not exist....

So when the majority in the group decide, for example, to go to a
movie (or anything else) and one or two other individuals decide that
they rather attend an interesting lecture on campus, if they cannot sway
the group, they are expected to go to the movie...

Secondly, there is an expectancy that someone within the group (or the
group itself) comes first and so its difficult for the group to allow
any compartmentalization...and if any member of the group has friends outside
the group and not accessible to the group, it becomes a problem....

Americans choose to do somethings with different people....the friends
they have in class are different from the friends they play with in
intramurals and different from those they work with and different from
the ones they live with....  To an Asian, friends are those that you see
everyday if you live in the same town....

Zahir

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This reply is intended for Gretchen...
Studets will always, I repeat ALWAYS, bemoan the absence of the "community"
of the previous year.  This is in no way dependent on an multi-cultural
membership - every residence community suffers this.  The returning people
are remembering the community they had AFTER a full academic year of shared expe
   riences - and they are comparing those close-knit feelings to the new, still-
awkward feelings of this year.  Believe me, this time next year, they will all
be bemoaning the absence of your present community.
The second factor at work here is retrospective falsification, or slective
memory.  After the long summer, they have all forgotten small squabbles and
periods of lethargy which characterize the downs which make the ups up.
The third principle is one of diminishing returns.  Continuing students rarely
bring the kind of enthusiasm that new students bring, and they don't reap
the same benefits as they did when they were new.

As for Asian student involvement, they need to feel that they :
1) belong
2) have some influence over the environment
3) are truly welcomed and appreciated for their contributions

for more information on Asian students in ILC's contact:
Wayne Blair at Keller International Studies Residential College
516/632-6796
or
wblair@sbccmail.bitnet

tschuess,


jef

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