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From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: girl/lady/female boy/guy/male
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:42:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.060932.28448@samba.oit.unc.edu>, Bathsheba.Grossman@launchpad.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman) writes:

|> In this vein, let it be known that any person who refers to me as a
|> "sculptress" will receive a swift boot to the head.  This is a term whose
|> excess specifity is not valuable in any context.  IMO.

Well...there is one. Say, for the sake of argument, I were dating a sculptperson. And say that I mentioned to my friends that I were dating
a sculpter. It just doesn't sound quite as...non-controversial...as scultptress!

No?

Well, it works better with "waiters" and "waitresses"...

jds

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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: How the cold war was won. (was: Nightline and Presidential Cantida
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 02:10:19 GMT

In article <721392335.18765@minster.york.ac.uk> aaron@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>The really amusing thing (and I have seen the official US press releases as
>a friend of mine is a defence analysis) is that is now believed that many
>of the Soviet ICBMs were in fact mock-ups designed to fool the satellite
>and aircraft surveillance.

Hey, this is a venerable Russian tradition called Potemkin villages.  When
Catherine the Great made her tour of the Crimea, her prime minister, Grigory
Potemkin, supposedly had cardboard facades thrown up to impersonate villages.

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
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From: rfs@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (richard.f.j.soyack)
Subject: Re: WHAT DO AMERICAN MEN THINK ABOUT AMERI
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:05:34 GMT

In article <721567592.7444@minster.york.ac.uk> aaron@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>: but I'm curious if the reverse is true? Or do you just think American accents
>: are plain and boring?  Just curious...
>
>	West better than East IMHO. American accents don't excite me as
>        much as the near musical tones of an Irish accent or the slightly
>  	rougher edges of Scottish dialect. Of American (in the broadest sense)
>	accents I have been exposed to I prefer the softer tones of a
>        Canadian or the charm of a Jamaican.
>

Ah accents, the only thing I've ever regretted about myself is
that, being from New York City, I have no accent.

Have fun,
Rich Soyack
From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Date: 13 Nov 92 02:49:12 GMT
Organization: Indiana University

Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:

>(non-poluting industry is more valuable than the polluting kind -
>surely someone can make money producing the re-tooling stuff?)

Somebody certainly can, but then everybody ELSE has to spend money
buying it.

This is Bastiat's Fallacy of the Broken Window.  If someone throws a
brick thru your window, is he a hooligan or a civic hero?  After all,
his throwing a brick thru your window means you'll have to buy a new
window... and the glazier can take the money and buy a pair of shoes,
and... but the community is still out the price of one window.

In other words, we can spend money on "non-polluting" industry
(actually an oxymoron--ever heard of entropy?) or we can spend it on
things that actually -produce- wealth (or, of course, some combination
of both.  Economics is not a zero-sum game.)

("The Broken Window" is the first essay in "What is Seen and What is
not Seen," a wonderful primer on economic fallacies.  Bastiat is
delightful stuff, and still relevant to today's headlines.)
-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
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From: djewell@rhea.trl.OZ.AU (David Jewell - Radio and Satellite Networks)
Subject: Re: Nightline and Presidential Cantidates
Organization: Telecom Research Labs
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:03:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.144109.7037@infonode.ingr.com> tensmekl@infonode.ingr.com (Kermit Tensmeyer) writes:
>
>	WHAT?   you mean Canada isn't just another American territory.
>			 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	I thought canucks couldn't vote in "real" elections just like
>	the democrats in Washington DC and P.R.
>
> As for you "Europeans" read-that Kaaskopje's. With Clinton in power, there
> will be much less interest in anything in Europe. From his campaign promises,
> it's likly that there will be much less support and also money support
							   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> for Grand Ole Europe and such problems.  Bush at least had some type of
> foreign policy. Clinton doesn't yet know about your problems
>
>-- 
>         Kermit Tensmeyer                         | Intergraph Corporation
>   klt@kt8127.b23a.ingr.com                       | Deep in Dixie

I guess this is just another loud mouthed ignorant Yank (sorry, Southerner).
Makes one feel sorry for the intelligent Americans. Canadians can only
look at such statements and shake their collective heads.
What's this garbage about "money support" for Europe? What about the cost
of the US's EEP program to the US taxpayer and the restrictions to free
trade that this imposes?

DJ...
From: martinc@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Do you remember 1970 to 1980?
Date: 12 Nov 92 07:24:18 GMT
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu's message of 11 Nov 92 22:09:56 GMT

In article <9211112207.AA06353@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com> GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu writes:

	 As part of an impromptu research project, I'd like to know what
     YOU think the single most important ( dramatic, traumatic ) event of`
     1970 to 1980 was.

Important: Losing my virginity.

Dramatic:  Apollo 13

Traumatic: Freshman year.
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      to resist the temptation to laugh uncontrollably.  Amen." -- Rob T
From: thurlow@convex.com (Robert Thurlow)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Date: 9 Nov 92 19:24:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: convex.thurlow.721337058
Distribution: usa
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Nov9.010922.11400@netcom.com> tyger@netcom.com (Kristen Kohlbecker) writes:

>Okay...clarify something for me...(if you can do it politely, that is...) As
>I understood things, it was James Baker III, not Bush that apporved the keynote
>speaker for the convention. If this is the case, why is the hate and bilge
>spewed by that *idiot* being laid at Bush's feet? 

Didn't you hear about Bush's radio address this weekend?  You know, the
one where he took ultimate responsibility for all the problems as the
team captain?  It seems like he'd prefer to shoulder the blame.

BTW, I've always thought Baker was one of the _competent_ Republicans.

Rob T
--
Rob Thurlow, thurlow@convex.com
"I get so tickled debunking bad personal philosophy." - Milquetoast
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From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: British men
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:14:16 GMT

> In article <dp7p9bk@lynx.unm.edu> blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
> >In article <25147@sybase.sybase.com> mysti@sybase.com (Mysti) writes:
> >> Susan Faludi
> >>says in "Backlash" that battery by domestic partners was the number
> >>one cause of injury among women in the late 80's. 
> >
> >Oh yeah, hell of a source. 
> >This is the same woman who said (talking about fetal alcohol syndrome)
> >"Clearly it's not a great idea to be guzzling massive amounts of alcohol while
> >one is pregnant", she said, but behind the "hysteria" campaign to stop
> >pregnant women from drinking is an effort "to rope women in" and control them.

I've always found it easier to tie them up if they have had a couple drinks
first.  :)
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From: rridge@nyx.cs.du.edu (Ross Ridge)
Subject: Re: Fueling the Canadian Ire
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 21:09:10 GMT

allisson@turing.toronto.edu (H. Allisson Roome) writes:
>With the lack of approval of the numerous proposals that were slated on the
>26th, it seems likely that with no legislative reason to stay together Canada
>may very well break apart.

Actually Canada has all the legislative reason it ever have had for
remaining together, the British North America Act, or as it's known
today, the Constition Act 1867.  While Quebec didn't sign the Constitution,
they joined Confederation, and so are still subject to the BNA act.

All the No vote did is give more ammunition for seperatists, it did
not affect the provinces' right to succession.  In other words things
continue as normal in Canada.

>What is ironic is that the things that most Canadians decry
>as cornerstones of what makes them Canadian (i.e., Socialized
>Healthcare, CBC, and certain social policies) are intrinsically tied
>to the government, the same government that Canadians effectively gave
>a no-confidence vote to on the 26th of October. 

No, it wasn't the same goverment as the the one that introduced 
socialized health insurance, or created the CBC.  This goverment
introduced the Good and Services Tax and the US-Canada Free Trade
Agreement, things that most(*) Canadians think are what's wrong with
this country.

>Allisson  (I'm not Canadian; I only post from an acount there)

I'm Canadian; I just don't post from an account here.

						Ross Ridge

(*) but not me.

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From: mysti@sybase.com (Mysti)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Violence vs. nonviolence
Date: 11 Nov 92 23:49:04 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1992Nov2.181434.9615@b8.b8.ingr.com> larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
>
>> how close did he get before
>> you knew he was going to hit you?  
>
>When I woke up.

Well, then there wasn't a solution, violent or nonviolent, was there?
--
========================
Mysti Rubert, Oaktown, California

"It't not the men in my life, but the life in my men."  Mae West
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From: tyger@netcom.com (Kristen Kohlbecker)
Subject: Re: PRES DEBATE
Organization:  I said WHAT!?!
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:40:30 GMT

larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings) writes:
>aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine) writes:
>> 
>> Because Mr. Baker, as former President Bush himself put it, would be
>
>He is NOT former President Bush until mid Janurary.

Larry,  it's over. We lost. It's time to regroup and look to 94 and 96.

Tyger

-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker    And I would choose to be with you
      tyger@netcom.com      That's if the choice were mine to make   
                            But you can make decisions too
      A Tyger and a Lady    And you can have this heart to break
Organization: Queen's University at Kingston
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:44:55 EDT
From: Psycho!! <HOLTONS@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Chocolate cravings
 <1992Nov4.201330.29146@sol.UVic.CA>

In article 5862@samba.oit.unc.edu, Christina.Ryan@launchpad.unc.edu (Christina
Ryan) writes:

> I lost 15 pounds in the last month. Does this mean I'm 'IN LOVE?'


   Either that, or you are in chocolate withdrawl.
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Do you remember 1970 to 1980?
Date: 12 Nov 92 22:51:13 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: ekman@netcom.com's message of 12 Nov 92 14:39:49 GMT


In article <1992Nov12.143949.14258@netcom.com> ekman@netcom.com (Crossly the Glad-Eyed Bear) writes:

   In article <9211112207.AA06353@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com> GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu writes:
   >      As part of an impromptu research project, I'd like to know what
   >  YOU think the single most important ( dramatic, traumatic ) event of`
   >  1970 to 1980 was.

   In 1974, in order of importance:

     My Volvo lost a timing gear.
     The dishwasher broke, flooding the kitchen.
     The roof sprung a leak.
     My wife left.


But which is most important?  The timing gear on the volvo, or
your wife leaving?

Spidey!!!


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From: aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: WHAT DO AMERICAN MEN THINK ABOUT AMERI
Date: 5 Nov 92 14:10:19 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Larry Billings (larry@b8.b8.ingr.com) wrote:
: People living in the country are more likely to be friendly to people 
: they do not know.  

  There speaks the wisdom of a man who has never been to North Wales
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: What is attractive
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:49:02 GMT

In article <1dn06rINN9f7@overload.lbl.gov> asya@ux5.lbl.gov (Asya Kamsky) writes:
>In article <1992Nov8.042305.10150@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (W. David Rohwer) writes:
>>     10. Chemistry between she and I.
>>     11. Good communicator.
>
>Obviously good grammar is not important.
>Asya Kamsky	      e-mail: asya@ux5.lbl.gov                   Go Red Sox

Gee, a Boston fan and a grammar flamer. Who'd a thought?
 
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From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: Thoughts
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 00:41:14 GMT

In article lfhjq3INNsvd@news.bbn.com, kgorman@star-trek.bbn.com (Karen Gorman) writes:
>
>In article <22832@venera.isi.edu> esteward@next11.isi.edu
>(Elaine Steward) writes:
>
>
>|>I was alone after 16 1/2 years of marriage.  It felt awful.  I felt awful  
>|>about myself.  It took about 6 months before I could feel any healing  
>|>(although I suspect it started before that).  I was 40 when my husband  
>|>died.
>
>I'm sorry to hear you suffered such a loss at a young age.
>
>|>"Friends" stopped inviting me places because I was no longer half  
>|>of a couple.
>
>This I really take exception to, and it happens all too often.  When I have run
>across this *couple* requirement, I find it most annoying, and the kicker is
>that usually these couple festivities are for the most part organized by a
>woman/women.  One would think that a single woman would find some support from
>another woman and invite her to the activity without hesitation, figuring she
>might enjoy getting out and socializing, but NO, based on the simple fact that
>she is no longer part of a couple...What a sad excuse.  It's this type of
>thinking that helps to keep women in the Dark Ages, when they can't even show
>support to each other in a time of need, based on some silly unwritten law.  I
>think it is terrible and don't subscribe to this reasoning at all, and go well
>out of my way to avoid people with such limited thinking.  Of course if one of
>the purposes of a festivites is for someone to play matchmaker, then the person
>will go out of her way to make sure her single friend attends, but this is the
>exception and not the rule.

Fascinating! The unwritten law that you refer to could be interpreted as a
sense of insecurity on the part of the married women. The last thing that
many married women want around their husbands is another woman looking for
support. This exclusion of recently widowed or divorced women from the social
scene may be nothing more than an expression of fear. The fear may even be
an unconscious one, but nonetheless real. The fear is one of competition.

dreas
From: stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Hints (Was Re: What is attractive)
Date: 4 Nov 92 20:55:21 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

Matt Valentine writes:

>I am right there with you on the inability to get 'hints'.  I recently  
>lost my SO (sob sob) because I repeatedly didnt know what was 'important'  
>to her.  When I asked her to slap me upside the head and explain in  
>detail, all she replied was (in tears) "If I was really special to you,  
>you would know" . . . gee thanks.
>I wonder, is this a common way that women feel?  

It is a common way for people in general to feel, if they are inexperienced
at conducting intimate relationships. One of my boyfriends regularly got
into rages over my inability to figure out what he wanted (but he would not
tell me what he wanted, he would just get mad if I got it wrong).

People do long to be 'known' by their SOs.
The longing is not unreasonable. What *is* unreasonable is to expect knowing
to be there immediately and to work perfectly. People need to communicate
their wants and needs, and even if your SO *is* guessing correctly,
your need to communicate in order to confirm that.

Some people inexperienced at relationships don't get this. Furthermore,
some people find it very difficult to communicate some of their wants and
needs, because they feel those desires are bad or feel they don't really 
deserve to get what they want or whatever.

Some people do seem to pick up on what their SOs want a
lot of the time. This probably has something to do with being naturally
intuitive, and something to do with having a lot of intellectual
/ emotional tendencies in common with one's SO. 

If someone longs for their SO to guess correctly and s/he doesn't, 
that person may be unhappy in the relationship. Other people might not 
want that so much and might not mind that they need to ask for what they 
want frequently.

I think your SO was unfair to claim that you didn't care for her because
you couldn't pick up on her hints. Lack of intuition does not indicate
lack of love. But love has to be communicated as well as felt. The ways you
show your love need to match the ways your partner wants to feel loved. In
your case, it sounds as if your SO had rigid ideas of how love should
be communicated. Many people with a little more experience have more
realistic expectations.

--
Stef                 After many years of study, scientists have determined  
stef@apple.com       that dogs bark "just for the hell of it." -- Smithsonian
From: Bathsheba.Grossman@launchpad.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: SWF iso S*M to be SO
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:58:16 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <n0e08t@ofa123.fidonet.org> Michelle.Walters@ofa123.fidonet.org writes:
>        I'm 35, 5'4", usually < 100lbs.  I have long blond hair,
>green eyes and (IMHO) am very attractive, but you be the judge of
>that. 
>        As far as work, I've been a certified electronic technician
>for over 10 years but am presently looking for work.  I have my own
>computer consulting/installation/repair/programming business called
>Tesseract Technologies.  
>I like a guy to take care of all the details of a date and
>I'm sensitive to his needs as well.  

Hey, techy-babe, I'm e-ogling you!  Woo woo.  God, I love those cute
little gals who you can still toss around even when they've been working
out.  I'm not a guy, does that mean I still have to handle the details? 
Hey, I can take care of you, we can be sensitive to one another's needs, I'll
have dutton give me lessons.  I'll pick you up in my truck, I'll even
let you ride in the cab if you promise to wave those well-muscled legs
out the window.  Just think what we'll save on condoms.  So let's see the
GIF of your upper torso, could you get one of your "friends" to scan it at
cost?

>        I'm presently in the city of tustin in S.  Calif.  but hope
Aw, she's geographically challenged, shucks-a-roonie.  

-Sheba

P.S. Here's an edifying little quote from Nancy Friday.
No:  I think of full-grown, mature women of forty, fifty years or older,
endowed with bulging, fleshy bottoms, showing flowering cheeks.  They must
have a vital, robust, square-built bum with massive,weighty buttocks, fully
and foundly developed.  I hate formless, plump, or baggy buttocks.  I am a
very artistic and over-sensitive man.			-Henry.
And that goes for me too.  Well, the last part anyway.
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From: morin@noao.edu (Marg Morin)
Subject: Re: a question in search of an answer!!!
Keywords: men
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson AZ
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:25:46 GMT

In article <644@ka2qhd.de.com> bill@ka2qhd.de.com (Bill Luzenko) writes:
>I went to a dance and danced with my male friend. Since I am a man I was
>called queer. question: why can two women dance together and be friends,
>but when two men do the same they are two homos? Can someone answer this
>question? WHY!!!

IMHO, this dilemma is a result of a closed-minded, double-standard
popular in our patriarchal society. As long as I've been sexually
aware, the men I've known have fantasized about seeing two women in
a sexual encounter or 'having' two women in a menage-trois (sp?).
When I have questioned this line of thinking (especially indicating
that it's physiologically more feasible for two men to satisfy one
woman), the general reaction is that two men together is strickly
gay or gross. It makes no sense to me .. and I think it's time to
fight the double-standard.

People should stop viewing two women on the dancefloor as an
intriguing sexual perspective, and recognize that two *dancers*
are there to enjoy dancing and the music ,,, not to entice
a pick-up.

That's my $.02


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 MARG MORIN  "Call me M"		(morin@noao.edu)  
	aka: The Seeker   		 AURA/NOAO Tucson, AZ
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