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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: RUSH!
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:25:09 CST

In article <1993Jan12.024335.7621@news.yale.edu> () writes:
>RUSH sucks shit. End of story.

Gee, I always respect the opinion of people who are too chicken-shit to use
their name when posting.  If you really believe this, use your name.  Or
you unsure of your opinion?
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Date: 13 Jan 93 04:28:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1993Jan13.000554.28794@leland.Stanford.EDU>, rushrush@leland.Stanford.EDU (Keith Robert Gudhus) writes...
>In article <106883@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>>In article <C0r65p.7Lv@acsu.buffalo.edu> v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.) writes:
>>>In article <106855@bu.edu>, jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes...
>>>>In article <C0q6Ez.GF1@acsu.buffalo.edu> v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.) writes:
>I agree wholeheartedly!  RtB does have lots of good material, and not just by
>my standards or Gregg's standards, but by the band's own standards.  In the
>RtB tour guide, Neil writes that RtB invigorated the band with new life, and
>that the band was very, very happy with the album.  And in the end, the band
>themselves are really their own best critic (I mean, these guys are 
>perfectionists!)

I do know one of my major problems with "Roll the Bones".
I found it badly repetitive of the theme of chance.  In the past, Neil's themes
were more diverse and interesting, yet they all fit together.  I felt the
lyrics were rehashing of other songs on the album.

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"If you love your foot, dive for it!" - The Power of Lard - Lard
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Jef Kolodziej                    Cliche Dude                    The KaTeFan(tm)
v129j6ed@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu           State University of New York at Buffalo
History Major                                                  611 LaSalle Ave.
(716) 834-2606                                                Buffalo, NY 14215
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: brownea@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: Re: Rush literature/box set
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:37:42 GMT

> As for the box set, I think this would serve the same purpose that Chronicles
> did, that is, be for mildly interested fans only. Those who like Rush would
> mostly get or have all the albums already, or at least most of them. Those who
> don't would probably not end up paying a lot of $$$ for a box set. This is 
> best illustrated by the new Floyd set which has like 9 CDs. I wouldn't pay
> $150.00 for music unless I was a _true_ fan, in which case I would buy the
> individual albums already. 
	I have got all of the non-duplicated releases put out by Rush (I didn't
get chronicles because there was nothing new), whether on record (shows how
long I've been collecting, tape, or CD.  The idea of the box set presented in
earlier, which would be a 4-disc set containing extensive liner notes, a broad
selection of songs, and would include some rare or not released music IS
something I would put out $$$ for.  I also like the idea of a collection of
everything (non-repetitive) they've done.  I need to upgrade my collection to
CD, and that would be a nice way to do it.

|===   You have no choice in the matter, so you may as well give in   ===|
|===   and just be yourself.                                          ===|
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Re: "Over The Europe"- place/date
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:31:29 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.205032.16742@wam.umd.edu> skipdaly@next16pg2.wam.umd.edu (Scott David Daly) writes:
>
>I have heard from several reliable sources that "Over The Europe" was  
>recorded in Ahoy Hall in Rotterdam, Holland on 5/3/92.  This is an  
>excellent recording...I think it's the best sounding RTB show I have  
>heard!
>
>					Skip

That sounds right on, but I don't believe it is legal here in the States.
I have a few friends at the dark dusty record stores checking to see if they
can get ahold of it for me.  I am very interested in it and would like to
add a bootleg or two to the collection.  ;-)

Mike Maryo    mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From:  ()
Subject: RUSH!
Followup-To: alt.music.rush
Organization: Rush Haters of North America
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:43:35 GMT

RUSH sucks shit. End of story.
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: brownea@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: Roger Waters (I know it's not Rush - read the disclaimer!)
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:45:27 GMT

	I realize in adavance that this post doesn't have much to do with Rush. 
I _DO_, however think that I would only like responses from Rush fans.

	I just recently pulled out a couple of older tapes, both by Roger
Waters, "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking", and "Radio Chaos".  These are (IMO)
Great music.  Roger Waters (if you don't know) is from Pink Floyd, but I think
he does a generally better job on his own (I love both of these releases, but I
only liked 'The Wall' and 'Dark Side of the Moon').  The really interresting
thing is that both are stories throughout.  
	Any comments?

|===   You have no choice in the matter, so you may as well give in   ===|
|===   and just be yourself.                                          ===|
From: esuqs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr W J Lynn)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Caress of Steel
Date: 11 Jan 1993 14:52:05 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: poppy.csv.warwick.ac.uk
Summary: It's pretty good!

My brother told me Caress of steel was crap.
Since then, i've had a copy sitting on my shelf and i haven't even listened 
to it................until now.
Personally i reckon it's pretty good so if anybody else out there has
had it sitting on their shelf for about 10 years without even trying it, 
get it on now.

I do have a question tho.
It's about Didacts and narpets.

When?
Who?
What?
Where?
And most importantly WHY????

I reckon it's the most pointless track in the world atm.

Warren.
From: v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Date: 12 Jan 93 05:12:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1993Jan12.011214.20319@leland.Stanford.EDU>, rushrush@leland.Stanford.EDU (Keith Robert Gudhus) writes...
>In article <C0pD4v.34H@acsu.buffalo.edu> v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.) writes:
>>In article <1is1ilINN262@poppy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, esuqs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr W J Lynn) writes...
>Caress of Steel is decent, but I'm tired of Rush fans asserting that Rush's
>first few albums are their best.  Rush has evolved so much musically and
>lyrically since the early 70's that their early albums don't even compare to
>what the band has done recently.

If you are referring to "Roll the Bones", the weakest of the Peartian albums,
then you are gravely mistaken.  Even "Presto" is weak compared to their own
standards.  "Caress of Steel" was experimental, and their first attempt at
a story side.  

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"If you love your foot, dive for it!" - The Power of Lard - Lard
*******************************************************************************
Jef Kolodziej                    Cliche Dude                    The KaTeFan(tm)
v129j6ed@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu           State University of New York at Buffalo
History Major                                                  611 LaSalle Ave.
(716) 834-2606                                                Buffalo, NY 14215
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: cs911029@ariel.yorku.ca (THOMAS J DUCK)
Subject: Re: Availability of published tablature?
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 16:06:00 GMT

In article <1imci2$i60@agate.berkeley.edu> drkszk@ocf.berkeley.edu (Derek Suzuki) writes:
>	Is there any true guitar tab out for Rush?  I've seen Rush Complete
>and Presto books, but they were piano/vocal/chord type.  The stuff on the
>net is handy, but tends to be very incomplete.  I don't have a month to figure
>out The Trees and La Villa by ear.

     You'll find the best Tabs in the multitude of guitar magazines now
available,  notably "Guitar for the practicing musician",  "Guitar School",
and "Guitar World".  I find that they are usually better than you can find
in most books because they contain the solos and other notes.  Often
you can order back issues of these magazines.  Check out the December 1991
issue of Guitar for the Practicing Musician for "La Villa Strangiato".
Check out the funny picture of Geddy on the cover with his "Big red horny
Wal bass!".

     Perhaps this is something else that we could add to the syrinx archives:
a comprehensive list of all Rush magazine Tabs.

Cheers,
Thomas J. Duck
cs911029@ariel.yorku.ca



Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: brownea@cc.uvcc.edu
Subject: Help, I'm buying CDs
Organization: Utah Valley Community College
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:25:55 GMT

It's me again!  I'll keep this one a little shorter.

	Hey everybody!
	(pause for answer)
	I just got a CD player!!!  (Cheers abound)  Now I can upgrade my albums
to CDs!!!  (next paycheck, maybe)
	But, I've got a question or two about how to do so...
1) My wife has a subscription to Columbia house (buy 8 for a penny!  Just buy 5
more at rediculous pricing anybody interrested in joining, e-mail me and I can
get free CDs!).  My question is: if I buy a CD from them will I get the same
quality of CD as if I'd gone to the local music store?  I'm worried that by
paying 7.95 for the disk, I'll end up with less quality recording, and just an
insert for the cover.  I want a fold-out cover, which leads us to...

2) Do all Rush CDs have a fold-out cover?  I want to know if I'm getting less
than I should when I _am_ shopping.

3) Boots (this will be later in my collecting, but while I'm asking...).  I
live in a largely religious society, and am doubtfull about the ability to pick
up a boot CD in Salt Lake City (or Provo, which is actually where I live),
Utah.  Any suggestions, or people who would be willing to do the legwork for
me?  I would be willing to put out $5.00 more than the cost of each boot I buy
to whoever went to the trouble to actually mail it to me...When I've got the
money to buy the thing.

	That's it for now, 
	Earl

|===   You have no choice in the matter, so you may as well give in   ===|
|===   and just be yourself.                                          ===|
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: capps@bnr.ca 
Subject: Re: Roger Waters (I know it's not Rush - read the disclaimer!)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:12:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.074527.1@cc.uvcc.edu>, brownea@cc.uvcc.edu writes:
|> 	I realize in adavance that this post doesn't have much to do with Rush. 
|> I _DO_, however think that I would only like responses from Rush fans.
|> 
|> 	I just recently pulled out a couple of older tapes, both by Roger
|> Waters, "The Pros and Cons of Hitchhiking", and "Radio Chaos".  These are (IMO)
|> Great music.  Roger Waters (if you don't know) is from Pink Floyd, but I think
|> he does a generally better job on his own (I love both of these releases, but I
|> only liked 'The Wall' and 'Dark Side of the Moon').  The really interresting
|> thing is that both are stories throughout.  
|> 	Any comments?
|> 

Congratulations on discovering another great musician.  I have been
a major RUSH fan for about 14 years, but only got into Floyd/RW in
the last 6 or 7 years.  I find that Roger Waters offers music/lyrics
that make you think and look at things in a different light.  I enjoy
all of his work.  If you like P&CofH and RK, you'll probably like
Pink Floyd's The Final Cut.  Also, check out Roger's ned CD Amused
to Death (it's around 65 minutes- a great treat for us RW fans).  
I'm hoping to hear about a RWaters tour soon.  Anyone heard anything?
BTW, its Radio K.A.O.S. (call letters for a radio station).
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: lerxst@wam.umd.edu (K2K2K2K2K2)
Subject: Re: RUSH!
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 04:03:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.024335.7621@news.yale.edu> () writes:
>RUSH sucks shit. End of story.


people who post anonymously suck shit. End of story.

- IL

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: skipdaly@next16pg2.wam.umd.edu (Scott David Daly)
Subject: "Over The Europe"- place/date
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 20:50:32 GMT


I have heard from several reliable sources that "Over The Europe" was  
recorded in Ahoy Hall in Rotterdam, Holland on 5/3/92.  This is an  
excellent recording...I think it's the best sounding RTB show I have  
heard!

					Skip
From: brownea@cc.uvcc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Roger Waters (I know it's not Rush - read the disclaimer!)
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:18:23 GMT
Organization: Utah Valley Community College


	<deleted about Roger Waters>
> my comment is that the whole was far better than the parts...
> although roger's solo albums are good they dont compare to the
> stuff he did with pink floyd.  check out Wish You Were Here,
> Animals, and if you liked The Wall--the Final Cut.  Also get
> the new album, Amused to Death.  It feels a lot like the Final
> Cut although his voice sounds awful on it.

	I have listened to much else done by PF, I don't like much of it.  I
enjoy the title track and 'Have a Cigar' from 'Wish You Were Here', I like
listening to the wall (it means more the older I get), and 'Dark Side of the
Moon'.  Other than that, I really don't find PF very much at all.  Just not my
kind of style.
	Turn off the torches, this is the last I'm saying on the group about
it, and I only put this much here because I felt my previous (the one that
started the thread) post was incomplete.
:=)

|===   You have no choice in the matter, so you may as well give in   ===|
|===   and just be yourself.                                          ===|
From: cs911029@ariel.yorku.ca (THOMAS J DUCK)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Rush boots in TO area?
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:44:10 GMT
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada

Hello all!

     Could anyone tell me where the Rush boots are available in the
Toronto area (including Kitchener/Waterloo etc)?

Thanks...
Thomas J. Duck
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: rushrush@leland.Stanford.EDU (Keith Robert Gudhus)
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 01:12:14 GMT

In article <C0pD4v.34H@acsu.buffalo.edu> v129j6ed@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (This is F.U.N.) writes:
>In article <1is1ilINN262@poppy.csv.warwick.ac.uk>, esuqs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr W J Lynn) writes...
>>I do have a question tho.
>>It's about Didacts and narpets.
>>When?
>>Who?
>>What?
>>Where?
>>And most importantly WHY????
>>I reckon it's the most pointless track in the world atm.
>
>Caress of Steel is the best Rush album ever!!
>You have the cassette version.  If you switch that track with "I Think I'm
>Going Bald", you will have the complete story of "the Fountain of Lamenth".


Caress of Steel is decent, but I'm tired of Rush fans asserting that Rush's
first few albums are their best.  Rush has evolved so much musically and
lyrically since the early 70's that their early albums don't even compare to
what the band has done recently.

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From:  (13013)
Subject: Re:  RUSH!
Followup-To: alt.music.rush
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:14:27 GMT

To whoever posted:
Rush sucks shit. End of story.

WAY TO GO!
From: cstadgs@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr R J Tinsley)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: 666
Date: 12 Jan 1993 14:31:09 -0000
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: lily.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1993Jan11.204036.9770@iscsvax.uni.edu> wipperma9340 writes:
>Some people seem to be wondering about the arrangement of dice on the RTB
>cover.  Did you notice the 666 that makes up the top of the R and S?  I think
>this definately proves that Rush is dedicated to Satan.  Consequently, all Rush
>fans are going to burn in hell.   I'm sorry, but there is nothing you can do
>about it.  You're doomed.

Yeah - and who is this Dan Forth bloke anyway?

-Bob

Yesterday, I heard Rush on the radio (R1) for the second time ever
(I live in the UK) - and the DJ spent most of the time making sarcastic
comments in the background. *FUME*

Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: rorvig@plains.NoDak.edu (Nathan Rorvig)
Subject: Visions
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 17:34:23 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

If anyone has this book, would you please e-mail to me or post the
isbn number? I would appreciate it. Thanks.

Rorvig@plains.nodak.edu

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From: cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu (Michael Silverman)
Subject: Re: Rush Box Set
Organization: Priests of the Temples of Syrinx
Date:  7 Jan 93 20:40:39 GMT

In <1ihvhoINNg3q@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST403027@brownvm.brown.edu () writes:

>It doesn't make sense that Rush would release a box set at this time,
>considering the recent release of _Chronicles_.

Well, considering Chronicles was released *without* the consent of
the band (it was put out by Mercury in a desperate last minute money-
grubbing maneuver after Rush switched to Atlantic) I think that sometime
in the next year or two, Rush could put out a high quality boxed set
that would satisfy fans and sell well.

When you look at it, Chronicles is basically a two disc piece of
trash...about the only thing it is good for is as a "greatest hits"
collection for causual fans
The song selection stinks, and the booklet isn't worth the paper it
was printed on.

I think if they Boyz handled it themselves, a good Rush boxed set
could include about 4 CDs...much better song selection, and a good
helping of unreleased stuff, both live and studio. Also, the booklet
should contain extensive liner notes and anecdotes, maybe like
a combo of the LedZep book and the Bob Marley one.  Package it up
real neat, slap a $50.00 price on it, and watch them fly off the
shelves!

Hell, when minor bands (no offense) like Journey can release
high quality boxed sets, there is no reason that Rush cannot
either.
.
--
cubsfan@camelot.bradley.edu

"One likes to believe in the freedom of baseball" - Geddy Lee
From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush over europe
Date: 6 Jan 93 13:53:25 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1993Jan6.052405.6931@ultb.isc.rit.edu>
trc6398@ultb.isc.rit.edu (T.R. Craver) writes:

>I don't think it hit the states.  If it did, it's got to be a real
>expensive import.

It's been here for quite some time, and it _is_ expensive ($40-$60)..

Gregg



-- 
Gregg Jaeger (jaeger@buphy)  Dept. of Physics (and Philosophy), Boston Univ.
"You see, the quantum mechanical description is in terms of knowledge" -Peierls
"One can _not_ put the psi-function... in place of the... thing" -Schroedinger
                   _De gustibus non disputandum_, NOT!
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: rushrush@leland.Stanford.EDU (Keith Robert Gudhus)
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 03:09:08 GMT

In article <106777@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:

>Caress of Steel is _more_ than decent. I agree with the sentiment that
>it is silly to assert that the first few albums were the best (very few
>people do, actually), but I also think that CoS has a unique quality --
>the atmosphere of "The Fountain of Lamneth" matched only by "Xanadu"
>-- listen to the album with headphones with the lights out sometime!


When I said decent, I meant that CoS was decent compared with other Rush
albums, not with other bands' music in general.  You're right, CoS is
amazing- all Rush albums are!!- I was just saying that I don't believe it
comes close to some of Rush's post-Permanent Waves material.


On to other things....As you can all tell, I'm new to this newsgroup, so I
thought I'd bounce around a few things I've heard.

First- I talked with one of Rush's head lighting technicians this past summer
(I was wearing my RTB t-shirt, he made some comment, and we started talking).
Anyway, he told me that the band was extremely happy with the RTB tour, and
had agreed that they wanted to record 2 more studio albums and one more live
album.  He also added that this was quite the reverse from the Presto tour,
when, according to him, the band was disappointed and did not know how much
longer they would last.  As you can imagine, I was quite excited to hear this!!

Also, I got to meet Alex before Rush's show in Phoenix this past June.  
Unfortunately, it was right before the show so we didn't get to talk for more
than a few minutes, but he was an INCREDIBLY COOL guy.  He signed more RTB tour
book, my copy of Visions, and my RTB cd jacket.  If anybody's interested, I'll
post a more detailed version of this story.



Keith
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
From: lerxst@wam.umd.edu (K2K2K2K2K2)
Subject: Re: Rush boots in DC area?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:38:05 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.084910.2061@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> pmangiafico@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes:
>Yeah, another request for boot tapes/CDs. I don't have any but have 
>been reading so much about them on here and TNMS, and I'd like to get 
>my hands on some, mostly just to hear live versions of stuff like 
>Natural Science, Cygnus, The Camera Eye.
>
>I'm in Washington, DC. If anyone knows where to pick up Rush boots in 
>the DC area or has some they want to sell or tape for me, I would love 
>to hear from you. I'm particularly interested in Over the Europe and 
>La Villa Strangiato.
>
>Thanks much.
>
>Paul Mangiafico			pmangiafico@guvax.georgetown.edu

I would also like to know this information. 

- Il
lerxst@wam.umd.edu
From: wipperma9340@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Caress of Steel
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:02:01 -0600
Summary: complacent?
Reply-To: wipperma9340
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

> 
> They stated themselves that "Hold Your Fire" was the highest point they could
> reach in the direction they were on.  After that, their music seemed to be more
> simplified, almost standard. I really like several songs on "Presto", but as an
> album, I found it weak.
 
> What this all comes down to is that their creativity has finally drawn thin.
> They are being complacent with lesser quality material.   

I considered HYF the peak of their brilliance, but I like the two most recenct
albums.  Perhaps they are moving away from their satanic roots.  That must be
the problem.

Yours etc,

The Analog Kid

P.S.  Ted Nugent = God
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