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From: c9221777@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Brother Redeye)
Subject: Re: Christian Metal ???
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:13:15 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.160053.8159@news2.cis.umn.edu>, donnell@polyp.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
> If you want dark, brooding music, try "The Skull" by Trouble. It is a christian
> album, but more in the vein of the depressing, gloomy, sung-psalms, than
> any "christian rock". If Black Sabbath had been christians <seriously>, 
> they might have sounded like this. And they don't preach!
> "Fear No Evil" is a classic. so is "Pray For The Dead". 
> Absolutely the most gloomy music ever to sing about God. it's great!
> 
> 					--Judex--
> 
I don't see the problem the guy who started this thread has.  All songs have
lyrics, and those lyrics say something, unless they are just meaningless vocal
filler.  Bands with a punk influence such as Napalm Death sing about social and
political issues, bands like Carnivore sing about things from their rather
redneck and narrowminded outlook on life, Christian bands deal with (guess
what) and Black Metal bands like singing about how awefully naughty they are
and how they are looking forward to an eternity of torment.  To each their own.

One thing I like about alternative music is that the lyrics often have
something to say.  Apart from that the music is interesting. I don't have to do
what the lyricist suggests or adopt his ideals - it just so happens that
generally the stuff that I buy agrees with viewpoints that I already have.

Saying that "Christian Metal" is an oxymoron is one of those myths that the
media likes to perpetrate, given their penchant for portraying all subcultures
as stereotypes (rap-listeners are all black, crack-smoking, gun-toting gang
bangers; punks all have antigravity haircuts and mug little old ladies; goths
all sleep in coffins, drink blood and are incredibly morbid; computer users are
all skinny, pimply kids with bad dress sense and thick glasses; D&D players are
just demented; and of course headbangers are all smelly unwashed, satan
worshipping bums who only take the occasional break from trying to be a rock
star in order to sacrifice themselves to Baalzebub through ritual suicide -
CRAP!).  Well not only are there Christian Doom-metal bands, but speed, thrash,
punk and a jolly good death metal band by the name of Vengeance that I would
recommend to anyone who likes the sound Obituary puts out.

Of course, if you don't like bands that say something when they speak, I can
strongly recommend Kylie Minogue, Jason Donovan, Bobby Brown and as much House
Music as you can stomach.

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From: osickey@centrifuge.ecn.purdue.edu (Matt J. Osickey)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Fave vocalists/Dio
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:17:30 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik) writes:



>Here are my favorite vocalists:

>first years of DIO. I've got to tell you that I've never seen R.J.Dio onstage before and
>next 12 October I'm gonna see him for the first time. I'm pretty sure he sings as well as 
>in studio (not like others e.g. Bruce Dickinson).
>Well that's it for now.                         
>                                        Erik
     let me tell you Erik,

        You are in for a treat on October 12.  Actually in my opinion
     RJD sings better live than in the studio.
 
                   azrael
From: d90-two@musta.nada.kth.se (Thomas Wolmer)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Fave drummers
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:27:32 GMT
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden

In article <1992Oct5.012135.8543@news.columbia.edu> pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang) writes:
>In article <13106@operator> oliver@Software.Mitel.COM (Oliver Postlethwaite) writes:
[....]
>>
>>Mick Harris does not play drums on the Naked City album. Can't remember who 
>>does though (I don't have the CD with me). 
>>
>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------
>The drummer is Joey Baron (Naked City). Mick Harris used to be in Napalm
>Death, but I don't know where he is now
>
In Scorn, together with some N J Bullen, also formerly of Napalm Death.
They sound kind of Godflesh-like, but not as monotonous.

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From: savatage@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu (Brent Bowman)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: MANOWAR !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Keywords: Death To False Metal! All Hail The Metal Kings!!!
Date: 7 Oct 92 00:44:28 GMT
Organization: The Ohio State University; Department of Phyiscs

In article <1aqk0pINN4t8@agate.berkeley.edu> alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko) writes:

>Can anybody provide info on how to get "Sign of Hammer?" 

	Sign of the Hammer was Re-released on CD by Grand Slamm Records
	in 1990.
	Catalog Number: SLAMCD14
	Bar Code Number: 20827 00142

>Also, can somebody post the complete list of Manowar albums? 

	1982	Battle Hymns
	1983	Into Glory Ride
	1984	Hail To England
	1984	Sign of The Hammer
	1987	Fighting The World
	1988	Kings of Metal
	1992/3	Triumph Of Steel (soon)

>I have only U.S. releases and a lot of 
>bootlegs but I know that they have released a lot of EPs.  I am very avid fan

	Bootlegs??!!  Hey! You said the magic word!!
	Email me! I think we each have something that the other wants! :-)

>of Manowar and I want to get more of their stuff. Also, I have heard somewhere
>that Ross the Boss has left the band. Can anybody enlighten me on that? 

	Yes. Ross The Boss Left after Kings of Metal. I didn't see them
	on tour, so I don't know how soon afterwards he left...

	In an article back in '89 or '90, we read that Manowar got a new
	guitarist that goes by the name: Deathdealer

	I can't remember if it said his real name or not, but I couldn't
	forget a kick ass name like Deathdealer! :-)

>Other-wise, how can you explain such a pause between the albums? 

	I wonder that myself...

>	Alex.
>Internet: alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu

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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden and 'Eddie'
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:22:39 GMT

>What's that in my ass, Batman?
>My cock, Robin!

Ha ha ha ha.
>
>
>"Now I know why everything turns grey, but it's our own world we paint
>And I want the brightest, I want fluorescent, every day and night,
>For the rest of my life, Open your eyes, Won't you?"--Faith No More

This is among the best mushy songs I've ever heard. It's got everything. It
has whiny, it has severely pissed off, it has everything. MTV has a version
from the Rio thing with Mike Patton on vocals. He makes all the Chuck Mosely
stuff sound almost perfect. I wish I could hear him do "Anne's Song / Introduce
Yourself," "Arabian Disco," and "New Beginnings" (my favorite FNM songs, along
with "As The Worm Turns" and "The Morning After")

philip
PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 01:27:06 EDT
From: <BKC100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Ian Hill's bass sound

I've seen Priest twice in the past, and Ian Hill looked quite content on his
side of the stage, strumming away... I don't know... I guess it just goes to
show that not to many bass players get that much recognition, either because:
a) they don't really care to, or b) someone else is the "star" of the show...
In this case, Halford/Tipton/Downing *definitely are* Judas Priest...

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From: pattons@CS.ColoState.EDU (samuel patton)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Rob Dibble credits Megadeth for pitching success
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:12:16 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <16873DBCA.C1899012@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU> C1899012@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU writes:
>St. Louis Post-Dispatch
>Sports page 3D Inside-Baseball
>Wednesday, September 30, 1992
>Reproduced without permission. 8^)
> 
> 
>The following line is printed between a picture of Rob Dibble and Megadeth.
> 
>"Rob Dibble (above) credits the heavy-metal group Megadeth (below) for his
>turnaround this season. 'They play like I pitch,' Dibble says."
> 
>Somehow it doesn't surprise me that his season turned around when he switched
>from Metallica to Megadeth. - Had to get my own editorial comment in here.
> 
>Tom Schaefer - C1899012@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU

I was at home ( Cincinnati ) during the end of July and the band came and 
visited him in the clubhouse before a home game.  They traded autographs and
talked for a few minutes.  

Does anyone know if Megadeth played any impromptu performances that night in
Cincy???  I believe that it was July 22 ( Wed. )  I would kick myself if
I missed something like that.

Sam

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From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: backward messages
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:36:02 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

In article <1992Oct5.134400.4107@ulowell.ulowell.edu> akelly@cs.ulowell.edu (Allen Kelly) writes:
>If anyone has any information on backward messages I would really appreciate it you would write to me.  Thanks a lot.
>					-Al
>
?sdrawkcab nettirw ti tnaw uoY
=(-|>

pilihp



PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
From: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: SOD LIVE AT BUDOKAN
Date: 3 Oct 92 01:51:30 GMT
Reply-To: pw15@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University

I just got the album today. Jeepers, they changed the order of most of the
songs from what I remember. It's funny that they put the part where Milano
was yelling at the guys who ran away from the stagediver (SPLATT!!!!) on the
album. I can't remember which songs Scott Ian sang, but I know they're on
there somewhere. Too bad they didn't put Charlie's guitar solo. That was the
best one that night (not counting Morbid Angel's atonal weird shreds, which
I think are cool).

If you don't have this recording, it's worth getting. It didn't cost me what
it usually costs to get a double album recording. I think it's a double 
album. If you can call about 70 minutes a double recording (I was having
too much fun listening to it to pay attention to time).

Got the Dark Throne album, too. DOn't remember the title, but it came out
in 1991 (not the one with "Countess Bathory") and I haven't listened to it
yet. But the goat headed dude in the cover is stolen directly from the
Angel Witch "Sweet Danger" and "Gorgon" EPs (I know that cuz I've seen the
covers to the Angel Witch EPs too). Should be interesting to hear.

BTW, I saw Bathory's HAMERHEART album at the store and may get it soon.
So, should I? Talk quick, I go to the store tomorrow to get Megadeth tickets.
Also, which Sodom album should I get? I saw A MORTAL WAY OF LIFE, and two
others I can't recall. Which is the best one to get for $10.00?

philip


PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
From: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Subject: Re: GWAR tape
Originator: cmgeorg@c00565-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 22:52:41 GMT


In article <25SEP199216382323@ulkyvx02.louisville.edu>, rtsumn01@ulkyvx02.louisville.edu (Shaitan) writes:
|>I seem to remember seeing Hello-O on tape once with the lyrics.  Can anyone
|>verify this or was I dreaming at the time?  Also, the Hell-O CD has been
|>re-released:  does anyone know if this has the lyrics?  My CD doesn't, but it's
|>an older one.
|>
|>Thanks to thee,
|>
|>--Shaitan--
|>(Not currently dead, not currently dreaming. . .or am I?)
|>

Well, my tape of Hell-O is the original (Shimmy Disc Records) and there
are no lyrics included.  I just got the Metal Blade re-release on CD and
there are no lyrics in there either.  The CD now has offers for crappy
MB sweatshirts and hats... they used the inner sleeve as ad space and the 
bozos didn't even put the band's individual pictures in there.  I HATE it
when they leave stuff off records.

-Chris
   
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From: angelrat@wam.umd.edu (...a gruesome)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Favorite Drummers
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:13:58 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <30SEP199218254511@jane.uh.edu> st1p8@jane.uh.edu writes:
>
>Here are my favorites, in no particular order of preference:
>
>     Lars Ulrich (Well, okay, a little preference :>)
>     Chris Nail (EXHORDER)
>     Dave Lombardo
>     Chuck Biscuits (Danzig)
>     [The drummer in Voivod--Sorry, I don't recall his name.)
>     Igor Cavelera
>     Marco Foddis (Pestilence)
>     Vinny Daze (Demolition Hammer)
>     [Drummer from dead horse!]

 here's mine!.......
      Nicko Macbrain
      Away (Michel Langevin) from VoiVod
      Stewart Copeland (notmetal, i know but the guy has more groove
                        and feel then most metal drummers..flameon)
 .
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From: blanc@caroli.csis.dit.csiro.au (Jacques Blanc-Talon)
Subject: Re: W.A.S.P. question
Reply-To: blanc@caroli.csis.dit.csiro.au
Organization: CSIRO Division of Information Technology
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 06:35:16 GMT

In article <92274.124111IBA100@psuvm.psu.edu>, <IBA100@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> Any one out there know anything about wasp's new album?
> is it out? if not when will it be out? who's in the band now?
> what are some of the titals?
> anything please.
> IBA100


  It's been out for about 6 months, it is called "The crimson idol",
  the tape is in my car and it's probably their greatest album !

Jacques
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From: okes@essex.ac.uk (Oke S)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Iron Maiden's new album
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:00:22 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Essex, UK.
In-reply-to: campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA's message of 26 Sep 92 22:27:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.222757.23436@cc.umontreal.ca>
campoe@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Campo Erik) writes:
Hi there!
>Ok. To all you fans of Iron Maiden over there here are some
>questions.  1- What do you think about the new album "Fear Of The
>Dark"? I think it's much much better then "No Prayer..." but the only
>good songs in it (except for "Be Quick..." & "Wasting Love") are
>written by Harris who still writes in that good-old fashioned Maiden
>style. These guys have cahnged a lot.

From what I read, it seems I am in a minority. I quite liked Seventh SOn &
No Prayer, but I just can't get into Fear of the Dark. It's just not like the
old stuff, and I don't like it as much. I prefer No Prayer to Fear of the Dark.

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From: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Subject: Scorpions
Reply-To: pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Philip  Wang)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 05:19:31 GMT

I have that RCA BEST OF SCORPIONS album (my version has a naked gurl with
a scorpion crawling up her backside on the cover. I like these European
covers!!!) and after over a year or so finally listened to it again. This is
classic stuff. It's funny that the Scorpions never approved of the two
BEST OFs that RCA put out (hence their switch to Mercury Records. This I
found out via interview on Z-Rock that I got on a tape when I traded with
someone on the net last spring). Anyway, I can't believe the drastic
personality change after BLACKOUT. Well, I liked the next two albums after
that, too (LOVE AT FIRST STING and SAVAGE AMUSEMENT), but CRAZY WORLD is
so weak, as if they were afflicted with Def Leppard Syndrome, too. 

Actually, I like every song on the BEST OF SCORPIONS album except for "Virgin
Killer." It's a bit too weird for me. I like the songs off the album from
which it originated, though. What's the name of Uli Roth's band? Does he sing
for it? Nicky Moore sang for his band after he left Samson, and although 
Nicky has a cool voice, too, I wouldn't think Roth needed a vocalist, as he
did a good job himself on "Hell-Cat" and "Dark Lady." Oh well.

philip



PHILIP WANG pw15@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu 
"On the other side jesters keep their watch, fifteen million lives ready to be
lost. We come from the northern headlands, the warriors of ice come to cleanse
the world, destroy the human sacrifice." - HOLOCAUST, "The Nightcomers"
From: merenda@remus.rutgers.edu (Kill Bon Jovi)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Fave drummers
Summary: SPEED!!!!!!
Date: 3 Oct 92 18:45:50 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

In article <92271.152408C09615MT@wuvmd.wustl.edu>, C09615MT@wuvmd.wustl.edu (Michael Teller) writes:
> Everyone is talking about good drummers and apparently one of the things that
> makes a drummer good is speed. But, nobody is saying anything about any thrash
> bands. What about Igor Cavalera from Sepultura? What about the guy from Slayer
> (sorry can't remember his name)? If you want speed, I believe these guys are
> right up there with Peart and Ulrich. Now if you want just plain old rock and
> roll drumming with very little equipment I would have to say your best bet is
> Chuck Biscuits from Danzig. Of course all of these are my opinions but they
> seem to be fairly obvious omissions from previous lists.
>                                                -Teller


SPEED? did someone say SPEED?

Mick Harris, once again, blows away most other drummers, but there 
are a few close ones in the world of Death-metal, and Jazz.

and before you all get out the flamethrowers, no, i DO NOT think that
all a drummer needs is SPEED to be good, just listen to any
of John Zorn's "Naked City", with Mick playing, and you sill see what
i mean. he is a great drummer. he GROOVES!

later-
-frank-
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Fri, 02 Oct 92 12:49:45 CST
From:         Michael Teller <C09615MT@wuvmd.wustl.edu>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Re: Iron Maiden's new album
Newsgroups:   alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy

After all the talk on the net about this album I finally borrowed it from a
friend last night. All I have to say is its a good thing it says Iron Maiden
on it otherwise I might not have recognized it. If I just would have heard the
music I don't think I ever would have guessed it was Maiden. On all but a
couple of songs the bass is nonexistant. Has anyone else noticed this. One of
the coolest things about old Maiden is the backing bassline that runs through
the song. Also the guitar riffs were just not as complex as the older ones.
All of the songs sound alot more mainstream than the older albums.(IMHO)

                                                 -Teller
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 22:12:27 EDT
From: Sime <TJS107@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.heavy
Subject: Re: Mustaine's vocals
 <1992Oct1.144416.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au> <0emsBnK00awU8NtX0r@andrew.cmu.edu>

In article <0emsBnK00awU8NtX0r@andrew.cmu.edu>, Peter Jason Ward
<pw2j+@andrew.cmu.edu> says:
>
>rest of the band changes around him every album.   I thing David (little
>Dave) Ellfson is the only member of the group to hold on for all the
>albums other than Mustaine (big Dave).
>                                                        Peter Ward

Hey yer right, Junior is the only guy aside from Mustaine who has been in the
band the whole time.

I'll tell you what, though, I didn't like Rust In Piece a whole lot except for
a few songs, and I didn't like much of the new one at all, but I just listened
to Countdown the other day, and I really really liked it.  It kicks.  I think
you just have to listen to Megadeth's new albums a few times and then they grow
on you.  The whole thing kicks ass.

Sime
                                                      Go Pirates!
The poison of love so pure it's deceiving,            Go Pens!
And deceit is all we have it's got to be over         Go Steelers!
It's dangerous this game we play you're
Killing me with words                            (guess where I'm from)
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