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From: mkheintz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (Michael Heintz)
Subject: Re: .fli
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 21:30:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.025755.8282@fawlty.towers.oz.au> neville@fawlty.towers.oz.au (Neville Smith) writes:
>I was just wondering,
>is it possible for someone to write a program that will view
>.FLI files which are common on the IBM.
>While we're at it, how about other animation file formats like MPEG etc.
>(For the GS of course.)

SuperConvert (available commercially from Seven Hills and various mail order
places) has a program call Fli.Away which will take apart a .fli animation and
leave you with lots of little pictures.  Then you have to load each frame
into SuperConvert and save them back as SHR pictures.  Making an animation
from that is not easy unless you have ShowPic and set it up to do a slide
show on the pictures you have just created.  I don't know if you can make
a PaintWorks animation or not, I'm holding out for the animation program
that is built into Platinum Paint 2.0.

	Later,
		...Mike


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From: uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: WindowShade Mac init
Date: 21 Nov 92 19:21:28 GMT

Heh.  GMTA.  I was just thinking about adding WindowShade to my list of
programs to write for the IIGS.  I got too much other stuff to do, though.
Go for it!  I'd like a copy! :)

- Eric S.

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From: jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (Jim Wong)
Subject: Re: A+/InCider article: ACK!
Organization: Rice University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:43:48 GMT

In article <uerics.721965155@mcl> uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes:
>
>o Proportional scroll bars (how in blazes can Mac people stand those phony
>scroll bars -- that's the most non-intuitive thing I've ever seen).

I like proportional scroll bars; they make sense to me.
But, supposedly, Apple has done tests that indicate that they are less
intuitive for new users.  And they would screw up the Mac's fancy 3-D
design (*grin*).

>o Easy access to foreign disks (let's face it, AFE is _slooowwww_ and
>doesn't work very well on ProDOS files).

I have to disagree here.  My Mac recognizes ProDOS and MS-DOS disks
automatically, and mounts them on the desktop.  I can even map MS-DOS
extensions to particular applications, so I can open an application
and document simultaneously by double-clicking on the application.

>o More intuitive Finder (IMHO.  For example, there are many more keyboard
>equivalents, and these are more logical in many ways)

Yes. Empty Trash, at least.  Maybe they don't want to make it too easy
to accidentally delete something.  The equivalent for "Put Away", command-y,
is physically very close to command-t.  On the GS side, though, having
"Get Info" in the Special menu always seemed weird to me, even though
techinically you can "Get Info" on objects that aren't files.

>o Knows when to break the rules (the Mac follows the HIG obsessively,
>avoiding intuitiveness just to follow those guidelines.  They're called
>"guidelines", not "the law".  Having a key equivalent for "Print..." seems
>intuitive to me...)

There is one.  Apple officially recommends command-P for "Print...".  This
actually represents a change from the original guidelines.

>The Mac is a pretty good machine, but it could certainly learn a few
>things from the IIGS (and the other IIs, for that matter).

Of course.  I still wsh the GS Finder wouldn't be unable to find
the application that belongs to a given document just because the program's
filename has changed.


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From: behrenss@hphalle6.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: 4MB Ram cards... Which one(s)?
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 08:01:03 GMT
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Yoshi the Dino. (yoshi@atlantis.CS.ORST.EDU) wrote:

: 	I am currently interested in getting a RAM update for my GS.
: 1.25MB isn't enough anymore... 'pecially since VIAD is out. :)

Perhaps you could try to learn to program? ;-)

: 	I'm having a hell of a time finding out which companies sell
: 4MB RAM cards; and if I -DO- find a system, which card is good, and
: somewhat cheap.

Get a Sequential Systems, but don't buy it at Sequential Systems,
rather shop around for the lowest price. TMS carries (sp?) it for
$136, for example.

Later on, you can buy a 0k CV-Tech ($55 right now), populate that with
another 4MB, and you have (finally) the 8MB that your GS deserves ;)
CV recommends the Sequential, it seems to work very well with their
piggy-back card.

Soenke

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From: sbennett@gnh-starport.cts.com (Stephen Bennett)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: ATTENTION high speed modem users: addendum to previous article
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:15:38 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Mon Nov 16 92 at 18:55:54 (EST)

Re: the GS CTS flow problems / inconsistencies...
> Well it now looks like Morgan Davis, Greg Schaefer and Tc Wilson all agree
> that this problem can (and should) be solved in software. So while the
> research that Brendan and Paul have done is valuable, we should probably
> not rush out and make new cables or modify our GS motherboards.
 
Mmm...  Brendan never said that everyone should immediately mod their
motherboards...  with awareness comes solutions, and since the problem *can*
be fixed with software, this gives one possible solution, and one that will
work the most easily for the most people...

Of course, some folks may use other software that doesn't compensate for the
problem, and those folks may wish to know about the problem to find other
solutions, whether they be hardware or otherwise...

Brendan's research is just that -- research, and he's simply providing
information that folks can do with as they will...  and he even says himself
that not everyone will want to, or have any need to, do the fix...
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From: 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (TAO  BRIAN T)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Editors
Date: 15 Nov 92 19:12:19 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Toronto (Scarborough) Computing Services

The following revelation escaped James L. Brookes's lips:
>
> Don't tell me that uEmacs/Orca can load the file in faster than you can
> fg it :-)

    Try this uemacs proc on for size...

store-procedure compile-buffer
    save-file
    shell-command &cat &cat &cat "chtyp -lcc " $cfname " ; cmpl " $cfname
!endm

    Bind this to something convenient (keypad-* in my case) and all you
need to do is hit the key and away it goes.  Hit a key again and you're
right back in uemacs.
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Subject: Re: SyQuest and HFS FST
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 07:06:46 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <9211180616.AA16897@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca> 90taobri@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao) writes:
> 
>     Since Syquests have a SCSI partition map, I assume the problem is
> the same one preventing an HFS hard disk formatted on a GS from working
> on a Mac.  You need some sort of special partition with Mac-specific
> data for it to be recognized.  The GS doesn't need it (and doesn't put
> it on).

If a SCSI drive is formatted on a IIgs and is not partitioned, the
drive will be unusable on the Mac.  If it has been partitioned, the
Macintosh still can't access it unless there is a Macintosh SCSI Driver
for the drive, in its own partition.

Advanced Disk Utility installs the driver in the case of Apple-branded
drives, but not for non-Apple drives, unless you make a copy of ADU in
your */System/Drivers directory and rename it to GenericMacSCSI.

However, even this won't work, because the driver supplied with ADU
doesn't know about removable drives, so the Mac will get confused if
the SyQuest is ejected.

>The reverse may also be a problem:  the Mac partition confuses GS/OS somehow.

Definitely not.  The IIgs and Mac use the same partitioning mechanism.

Formatting the drive on the Mac _should_ allow it to be read by both
computers.  There must be some other problem.
-- 
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From: taob@r-node.gts.org (Brian Tao)
Subject: Re: Artillery
Organization: R-node Public Access UNIX Information System (416-249-5366)
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 05:18:24 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.021244.1536@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu> jcportwood@miavx2.ham.muohio.edu writes:
>Has any one ever heard of the game Artillery.  The last time I saw it was
>around five years ago.  The game has two sides red/blue and you fire back and
>forth between each other.  You could probably call it the GrandMother of
>Scorched Earth.  I was wondering if this game is available through Mail order
>or ftp site.  Is it public domain????  Though simple the game is pretty fun.

    There's one called CastleWars which has some pretty cool sound effects,
but it isn't much more complicated than the original Artillery.  I'd like
to see Scorched Earth ported to the GS though.  That's one of the few
shareware MS-DOS games I love playing.
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From: patrickd@wpi.WPI.EDU (Lazer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: .fli
Date: 21 Nov 1992 03:17:37 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
Summary: Apple II player
Keywords: FLI

In article <1992Nov20.172630.21558@nuscc.nus.sg> isc10327@nusunix1.nus.sg (ONG TAT-WEE) writes:
>Does anyone know which FTP site has .FLI files?  Haven't been able to
>find them anywhere.
>
>- DOTW -

Even better...where can I get a FLI player for the Apple II or IIgs series?

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From: dsdd@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Roy Barrett)
Subject: Re: Gif to apple?
Organization: Okcforum Unix Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 19:55:27 GMT

Prism is another, by Ronald Mercer... It's not out yet, but it's excellent.

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From: glyn@cs.UAlberta.CA (Reade Glyn Devin)
Subject: Re: Future of the II line
Summary: No more major sys releases -- Incider A+
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:50:50 GMT

In article <uerics.721932539@mcl>, uerics@mcl.ucsb.edu (Eric D. Shepherd) writes:
> Where did you get the "news" that there would be no new major System
> Software releases?  I've never heard Apple say that (I don't expect them,
> but I've never heard Apple say there wouldn't be any).
> 
> - Eric S.

If I remember correctly, that statement was made by A+/Incider during
their review of the initial release of system 6.0 ... doesn't
necessarily mean that they know what they're talking about :)

--Devin		glyn@cs.ualberta.ca
From: itchy.caltech.edu!nathan (Nathan Mates)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: speed of text applications...
Date: 21 Nov 1992 07:02:28 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: itchy.caltech.edu
Originator: nathan@itchy

In article <fmlin.2amy@terapin.com> fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin)  
writes:
> What does NiftyList use for I/O anyway?  It scrolls so FAST! I don't use  
it (
> which I don't use :).  Why?  Is it because interrupts are disabled when  
you're
> frank m. lin
> fmlin@terapin.com
> 

Well, I'd bet that it's because the tools are thrown out, and the
program writes directly to the screen. (Yeah, blatant plug for the FTA's
no tools philosophy, but I have written legit programs too)

Nathan


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From: jeffb@world.std.com (Jeffrey T Berntsen)
Subject: SCSI Disk Eject (Was : Re: flopticals...)
Organization: The World @ Software Tool & Die
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:52:19 GMT

toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) writes:

>fmlin@terapin.com (Frank M. Lin) writes:

>>1. Can the RamFAST floptical ROMs ( is it "i" or "j"? ) eject disks by issueing
>>a SCSI eject command?

>SCSI has _no_ eject command (stupid but true). They do eject disks by using an
>extension Insite came up with to the SCSI Start/Stop Device command, which is
>not exactly kosher but I don't see as how they had much choice.

How do the CD drives do it?  Is it an mfgr. specific command?  Does SCSI-II
have an eject command?  (They standardized the audio command; they could have
standardized eject too...)  Does anyone really know?

Jeff Berntsen
jeffb@world.std.com
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From: u9050728@cs.uow.edu.au (Shane Kelvin Richards)
Subject: fading graphics in and out
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Wollongong University, Australia
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 04:54:52 GMT


	Hi. I am in the process of write a ML routine that fades palettes in
and out. Essentially it will be accessed like this:

	_Fadeto #0;#12

	So that it will fade palette 0 into palette 12. I got this working
no probs, but looking through an old nibble I came across a routine that
fades in and out. The interesting thing is that this routine fades the 
green/blue portions of the palette first, then brings up the red. Is there
any logical reason to do it this way? I am simply fading red,green,blue up
together.

Shane.

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From: blasjw@ntmtv.UUCP (Joseph Blas)
Subject: Vulcan Gold or Turbo IDE 
Reply-To: blasjw@ntmtv.UUCP (Joseph Blas)
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:41:36 GMT


I need some serious advice.  I have a Vulcan 40 meg. hard drive which
is pretty slow.  From what I understand the Vulcan Gold upgrade is a
new controller that increases the speed.  I think heard some bad
things about the Vulcan Gold though.  That guy in Germany put an add in GS+
for his Turbo IDE card.  I've heard it's supposed to be pretty good
but it's expensive.  The Vulcan Gold upgrade goes for about $50 mail
order but this guy wants $159 for the Turbo IDE + $24 for shipping.
So, if the Vulcan Gold is good and the Turbo IDE isn't much faster, I
would just as soon go for the Vulcan Gold.  I would appreciate if
someone could fill me in on the details of both cards and maybe do a
comparison.  Also, how much faster are these cards than the standard
Vulcan controller?

     Thanks in advance,
		       Joe


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From: toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: SCSI Disk Eject (Was : Re: flopticals...)
Date: 19 Nov 1992 13:24:15 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

SCSI II has to. I still have a hard time believing that it got left out of
SCSI I.

Far as I know (and CVT too), all eject calls are either Class 7 Vendor Specific
SCSI commands or extensions to existing Common Command Set commands.

Todd Whitesel
toddpw @ cco.caltech.edu
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From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Re: LaTeX for the Mac?
Organization: NYSERNet, Inc.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:11:03 GMT

todd@CL-NEXT4.CL.MSU.EDU (Todd E. Van Hoosear) writes:

>Does anyone out there know anything about a TeX viewer/editor for the Mac or  
>how to get TeX files into a Mac format?

There is a public domain version of TeX available for the Mac, called
OzTeX, which is available via ftp at various sites.  I think that
midway.uchicago.edu is one of them.  There is also a commercial TeX
called TeXtures.

What's the status of the Apple IIGS TeX project?  Anybody know?
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From: bslog@pro-scat.cts.com (Bill Logsdon)
Subject: Re: MIDI for the //c???
Organization: ProLine [pro-scat] St. Petersburg, Florida.
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 07:09:16 EST


If I remember correctly.... you can use the Apple Midi Interface, coupled
with MasterTracks Jr. (not pro) or Diversi-Tune for midi on a //c....

I have all of the above, except the //c, and soon's I can find one of our
local users that has one I can test it on, I'll post the results....

BTW, I recommend the Yamaha midi keyboards, a little more expensive, but
feature packed!!!

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From: behrenss@hphalle6.informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Soenke Behrens)
Subject: Re: Vulcan Gold or Turbo IDE 
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:46:43 GMT
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Joseph Blas (blasjw@ntmtv.UUCP) wrote:

: I need some serious advice.  I have a Vulcan 40 meg. hard drive which
: is pretty slow.  From what I understand the Vulcan Gold upgrade is a
: new controller that increases the speed.  I think heard some bad
: things about the Vulcan Gold though.  That guy in Germany put an add in GS+
: for his Turbo IDE card.  I've heard it's supposed to be pretty good
: but it's expensive.

Hmm. The Turbo IDE is considerably faster (about twice the speed of a Vulcan
Gold), since it uses DMA and highly optimized routines. Thus the relatively
high price. The Turbo IDE is capable of working with 8MB of memory, even
with DMA on, and even if there is a TWGS in the system :) In addition, you
could hook up an IDE tape drive to it (instead of a second HD).

If you want speed, the Turbo IDE is well worth it's money. It outperforms my
RF SCSI Rev.D speed-wise, yet only slightly :)

Oh, one thing I forgot: Some very old Vulcans use mechanims that are _not_
fully IDE compatible. The Turbo IDE won't work with these mechanisms. There
is a program to determine wether your Vulcan'll work with the Turbo IDE,
if you want, I can put it on c.b.a2.

And yes, I _am_ biased. So what? ;-)

Soenke

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