From: luthien@athena.mit.edu (Luthien)
Subject: Re: worf.tamu.edu 2000 is open to non-texans?
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:18:32 GMT


addey@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Adam Armstrong) writes:

>Flame me all you like for expressing my opinion but, I don't think your
>(Raistlin) reply to Japlady was very nice.... I've heard rumours that
>some people on Darker Realms are number one jerks... and your reply didn't
>prove them wrong. Not a good way to get a good rep on a mud... or any mud
>for that matter since LOTS of people read the news.

Yes, it was *very* rude, particularly because it is such a simple problem
to solve.

>Yes Darker Realms has been a very popular mud, and when I heard that it is
>back, I thought I'd play it some.... but now I feel a little reluctant from
>reading that reply which wasn't really called for.

I once played on Darker Realms myself.  Don't bother.  It was once a good
mud, but it is that no longer.  Found this out by posting a simple suggestion
on a bulletin board there--that *is* the normal procedure.  Well, not only
did Raistlin erase my note from the board, he also wrote me an extremely rude
and childish letter in reply to what was simply a helpful note.  (Some wizard
had refused to summon players to the shop at game reboot so the players were
rather miffed, and understandably so.  Raistlin wrote something about wizards
not having the time to deal with the problem.  So I suggested that he set up
a simple auto-transport monster or device in the shop for the last couple of
minutes before reboot.  Logical and reasonable, but unfortunately Raistlin
decided to be offended for reasons I have yet to fathom.  So he followed me
around on the game, harassed and imprisoned me, and then banished me.  Nice
mud they have there, huh?)

>I was going to play Darker Realms cos I'd heard its fun to play on....
>but I'd also heard tha some people there (mainly wizards or higher) are jerks,
>and I'd never really paid much attention to them until now.
>I certainly wouldn't like to be on a mud where others only came down on you
>like a tonne of bricks.

Then you wouldn't like Darker Realms.  At least, not if Raistlin was logged
on at the same time and decided for his own inscrutable reasons that you were
his mortal enemy.

>The other way is pretty laborious.... but still should work the same...
>rm the .o file and let the player re-create the character and have someone 
>patch the stats back, not all that hard to do.... 

You could also just copy the .o file into your own directory as a sort of
backup, then rm it, then let the player re-create the character.  Once that
player logs in, copy the file back into the player.o and have the person save
and change passwords.  I've used this technique before, although I'm not sure
if it will work with different muds--?  This method is, if workable, best for
systems with lots of stats, skills, quests, and experience stored in the .o
files, though.

Perhaps Raistlin is just exceedingly stupid?  (: Sorry, couldn't resist that
one.) You're correct, though:  it *is* very easy to deal with this dilemna.
And if you're an admin, it's your JOB to care about it and fix it.  What else
do you exist for?

I think Raistlin has forgotten the fact that without players, muds
are *nothing*.  All muds are made for the players' convenience and
amusement.  Hinder either characteristic, and the mud dies.  DR is
on its way to taking a long walk off a short dock.

*comforts Japlady*
Hard as it is to give up a character you've been working on for a long
time, it's better to wiz in a place where you know you'll get the respect
and courtesy due to everyone.  Try another mud, dear.  I'd suggest Overdrive
(ferd.mit.edu 5195 once it gets back online) if you like loud, friendly muds
with fun guilds, neat abilities, an original combat scheme, and a supportive
attitude toward newbies.  I'm a player (mage) there and would be glad to help
you.


@}`-
Luthien

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	(i do not know what it is about you that closes
	and opens; only something in me understands
	the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses)

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