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From: fang@phy.duke.edu (Fang Zhong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc,comp.sys.next.sysadmin,comp.sys.next.hardware,comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc
Subject: PC-NeXT connection
Keywords: Help needed
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:58:13 GMT
Followup-To: poster



We are working on PC-NeXT connection for better experiment control and data
acquisition.  Our final goals would be 1) Use PC to take data files and NeXT
to graph them.  2) Let user to use the slider on the NeXT to control the
signal sent out by the PC.  Therefore, our first step is to mount from PC to
NeXT.  Both the PC (through Ethernet card) and NeXT are connected to the Dept.
network.  At the PC site, we are using BWNFS v2.30, and added command "net
link NeXT-IP" to the "autoexec.bat";  at the NeXT site, we modified the
"exports" file by adding "-access=NeXTname:otherhostname".  However, no luck
so far.  Whenever we reboot the PC, there was always an error message such as
"access denied, device M: (the drive we defined) not linked."  Is there
anything else we should change?  Could anyone on the net give us some
suggestions?  Thank you very much for your help!

-- 
	Fang Zhong				1-919-660-2524
	Duke University Dept. of Physics	fang@phy.duke.edu
	Durham, N.C.      27706
From: prim!dave@germany.eu.net (Dave Griffiths)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT Sales figures
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:39:45 GMT
Organization: Primitive Software Ltd.

Have NeXT released any sales figures recently? When was the last quarter
for which unit shipments were published? How many machines were sold in 91?

No guesstimates please - I'm looking for official figures. 

(Hope this isn't a taboo subject :-)

Dave Griffiths
From: mrr@scss3.cl.msu.edu (Mark Riordan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NFS server recommendations?
Date: 21 Aug 92 21:06:32 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

jonb@infoman.com (Jon Buffington) writes:
: 
: I am interested in anyone's experiences using or administering various NFS  
: servers with NeXT equipment as clients. I am especially interested in  
: whether an HP 9000 or Sun SparcServer would make a good NFS server for a  
: group of 30 NeXT seats.

Our Computer Science department uses SPARCservers as servers for
Suns and NeXTs with good success.  They use NIS (Yellow Pages).

Our College of Engineering has a number of Suns and HPs.  They
had all sorts of problems in the past using HPs as servers for 
Suns, and eventually gave up.  They use Suns as servers for all
their workstations nowadays.  I would guess that if there were 
problems with Sun, there might be problems with NeXT.

I don't know how recently they have reevaluated the incompatibilities
between Sun's and HP's NFS.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: khan@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_DOMAIN_FILE (Osman Khan)
Subject: X11 with NeXTStep 3.0
Organization: SERI-MPN Network Services, Philips C&P, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 21:29:15 GMT

Does any beta tester have experience with using X11R4 or X11R5 with
NeXTStep 3.0. We use X a lot and want to be prepared for the move to
3.0 with a working X11 (preferably X11R5). Please comment on where the
X11 you are using can be obtained in both binary and source form.

Thanks

--
osman khan, philips c&p, building vn509, eindhoven, the netherlands
tel: +31-40-784259                               fax: +31-40-782900
email: khan@seri.philips.nl
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com>
Subject: Advertisers Wanted in New NeXT Magazine
Reply-To: zac@dolphin.com
Organization: Dolphin Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:48:48 GMT

BANGup Magazine (An Excellent NeXT Magazine) Seeks Advertisers

We are rapidly approaching the publication deadline for the October issue  
of BANGup Magazine, and we need advertisers!  If your company would be  
interested in advertising in the first issue of BANGup Magazine, please  
get in touch with us!

Send us you postal address, electronic mail address, voice and fax  
telephone numbers (if you don't have one of these, don't worry).  We are  
looking for ideas, articles, and authors who wish to contribute.  Include  
what it is you would like to do for the magazine, and we'll get in touch  
with you right away!

	Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com>
	Editor in Chief, BANGup Magazine
	900 High School Way, Number 2106
	Mountain View, CA 94041
	415.966.8919
-- 
 Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Software - zac@dolphin.com (NeXTMail welcome!)
         900 High School Way - Suite 2106 - Mountain View - CA - 94041
 To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy... and dull
 fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. -- R. A. Heinlen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: dleon@seas.smu.edu (David Leon)
Subject: NeXTmail attachments -- help
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Science
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 21:18:25 GMT

I only have dial up acces to the net on a non-SLIP, non-UUCP basis.
I can currently receive NeXTmail by downloading the mail from my
dialup box, opening it with Edit on my NeXT, highlighting the goop
with a Command-A and then selecting Send as Message from the Services
menu.

Now that I can READ NeXTmail with attachments, how can I SEND NeXTmail
with attachments?  Is there another services program that will allow 
such a task?  Is there anyway to fool the machine into thinking my
dial up network connection is a SLIP (so I can use Waistation over a 
modem)?  My network stie administrator does not allow UUCP or SLIP 
access at this time.

Thanks, David L. Leon
dleon@seas.smu.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos)
Subject: Re: stripping (was Ramdisk coming for NeXT)
Organization: University of Maryland College Park
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 05:18:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.220611.7529@nic.umass.edu> a74k110@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Chris Lloyd) writes:
>In article <1992Aug22.205249.27205@atlantis.uucp> bugs@atlantis.uucp (Dan Berry) writes:
>>	"If you want to save some space, try stripping sdmach [hah hah hah]"
>>	(paraphrased)
>>
>>Well, I thought he was joking.  And yet, amazingly enough...
>>
>>atlantis> ls -l /sdmach
>>-r-xr--r--  2 root      708219 Aug 14 19:11 /sdmach*
>>atlantis> ls -l /tmp/sdmach 
>>-rwxr--r--  1 bugs      624388 Aug 22 14:32 /tmp/sdmach*
>>
>>*** YEESH! ALERT ***
>>How can this be?  And although I feel that the stripped version might work with
>>no problems, _I_ ain't gonna be the one to try it out.  It might work in the
>>beginning, but I'd hate to have to deal with sporatic mach-kernel errors.
>
>Stripping /sdmach won't cause kernel errors per se, just errors when
>something tries to link with it, such as kernel loaded servers which use
>the relocation info (which strip removes) to link into the kernel.
>
>If you never intend on using, Midi, NeXTDimension, SLIP, PPP,
>MallocDebug (either this or AppInspector, I forget which one), the Tablet
>driver, ISDN, TTYDSP, and others I haven't mentioned and others
>which will come along, then it's probably fine to do :)

And you never intend to use any programs that nlist() the kernel to local
symbols.  Like netstat, or ps or uptime.

>Never hurts to try this stuff, worst that will happen is you'll learn
>something,

Or worse, you hose your system and then post questions about how to
recover a hosed UNIX file system.  There's a reason that a lot of
these files are owned by root (or bin or anything else) and why normal
users don't have write permission on them.  Experiment all you want,
but you ought to be sure to make a backup first and know how to
restore from that backup.  

Is it really worth the 80k-odd bytes you get back?  This reminds me of
the common user-error: I deleted that /vmunix program that I never
use, and now my system won't boot!  I suspect that he *was* really
joking, like they guy that suggested you compress your swapfile. [No
you can't do this.]

louie


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: irving@Happy-Man.com (Irving_Wolfe)
Subject: Re: Recommendation for scanner
Bcc: irving
Reply-To: Irving_Wolfe@Happy-Man.com
Organization: Happy Man Corp., Vashon Island, WA 98070-7399
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 06:13:40 GMT

In <339@gouche.UUCP> grant@Manticore.COM (Grant J. Munsey) writes:

>Anybody out there using the HSD Scan-X professional scanner? How well
>does it work? I'm thinking of getting one. Thanks,

I've been real happy with my HSD Scan-X professional scanner.  I'm
thinking of upgrading to their color unit if someone will pay a
reasonable price for my lightly used black & white model, so please
let me know if you are interested.

Thanks!
 - Irving
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 4410 SW Pt. Robinson Rd., Vashon Island, WA  98070-7399   fax x108
 We publish SOLID VALUE for the intelligent investor.   NextMail OK
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From: aheisey@cube.next.com (Andy Heisey)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Higher ED?
Date: 10 Aug 92 23:35:49 GMT
Reply-To: Andy_Heisey@next.com
Distribution: usa

Hi

What is the difference between the regular software release and the Higher Ed  
version?

Thx,
From: bstone@acs.ucalgary.ca (Blake Stone)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 3.0
Date: 19 Aug 92 02:47:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

> NeXT is not currently planning a 3.1 release. They would like
> to be able to make 4.0 the next release. I am cynical, but I
> expect that, eventually, the reasons against an interim release
> will be overcome.

Hello?  Several NeXT employees distinctly stated that several
features were being pushed back to the 3.1 release at NeXTworld
Expo.  Cross compilation and fat binaries for example.  And NeXT
traditionally releases new software to support new hardware
(ostensibly the reason for 2.1 as well as the only reason for 2.2
and 1.0a)... does this mean that the NRW is completely supported
by 3.0?  Or that it won't be out until 4.0 (a minimum of 18
months away unless they change plans radically).

On the other hand, I don't expect 3.1 to be necessary for bug
fixes given the extensive testing.  3.0 won't be bug-free,
neither is 2.1, but it should be MUCH better than your
traditional x.0 release from what I've seen.

Blake
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: aj681@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Carlin Wiegner)
Subject: Number of users on Turbo Mono...
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 19:03:01 GMT


About how many network (vt100) users can log into one of the
newer turbos when the system has 20 megs of memory or so?
10? 15? 20?
CW
-- 
Carlin Wiegner a.k.a. C-Man based here in Cleveland, Ohio, USA!
aj681@cleveland.freenet.edu or rhino@r2d2.eeap.cwru.edu
"Anything less [than a NeXT] would be uncivilized..."
From: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Emacs for NeXT
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:52:25 GMT
Reply-To: byer@adobe.com (Scott Byer)
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

Eystein Dugstad writes

> What features does Emacs have that Edit doesn't? Should
> I check it out or is it better to stick with Edit.

GNU Emacs (the One True Emacs (TM)) has a *full* Lisp
interpreter inside, along with many predefined editing
functions.  It also has command-keys up the wazoo, and
that can be it's biggest problem and it's greatest
feature.

For example, I have a Lisp function, automatically loaded
at startup time, called make-numbered-shell, invoked
through the sequence '/C-x 4 s'.  That's a cryptic
example, admittedly, but when you've been working with
Emacs for a while and have a *long* init file, with many
functions, you begin to run out of unused command keys.

If you aren't feeling cramped with the basic capabilities
of Edit, and learning gobs of command keys doesn't excite
you, stick with Edit.  If having total control of the
universe (or at least your edit file) sounds like your
idea of a good editor, get Emacs.

There are rumors around the Emacs isn't user friendly -
nothing is farther from the truth.  '/C-h i' gets you
the Info panel, and you can get a short tutorial - or
learn the whole thing in one day if that's what you want.
'/C-h a' lets you type in part of a function name, and
seek for all functions containing that function. '/C-h
h' gets you basic help-for-help.

[Ya know what I wish?  That Edit had dynamically loaded
modules allowed to handle key sequences and a set of text
processing methods so that I could do the same things in
Edit and Obj-C that I can do in Emacs and Lisp. :-) ]

Scott Byer                                   NeXTMail: byer@adobe.com
Adobe Systems Incorporated               These are *my* opinions, and  
1585 Charleston Road, P.O. Box 7900        do not necessarily reflect
Mountain View, CA 94039-7900             the opinions of my employer.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: phayes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick W Hayes)
Subject: Re: NeXTWEEKs real mailing address?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 14:12:19 GMT

In article <1992Aug13.183901.4549@cshl.org> cozza@cshl.org (Steven Cozza) writes:
>In the fall issue of NeXTWORLD magazine they have a list of periodicals
>available for the NeXT and one of them is NeXTWEEK.  However, the email
>address they give (nextweek@kiwi.swhs.ohio-state.edu) for it does not seem
>to work. Does anybody know of the correct address? 
>
>Steve

"NeXTweek" used to be a weekly summary of NeXT related events, posted to 
comp.sys.next.announce. It was not working very well because of mailing and
summarizing delays, so I stopped doing it when the moderator changed. I had
suggested to both moderators that I thought a comp.sys.next.events newsgroup
might be a good idea, but neither of them seemed to really endorse that, so
I just gave it up.

For some reason NeXTWORLD published the submissions address for it, and my home
phone number, without any verification of what it really was, or if the address
and number were even correct.

I still think a c.s.n.events newsgroup would be a good idea, but don't have
the time to try to start it myself.

I should have posted something about all this before, I apologize to people
who wondered where the address went.

Patrick W. Hayes
pwhayes+@osu.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: fletcher@socrates.umd.edu (Charles Fletcher)
Subject: Networking PCs and Macs with NeXT
Summary: Any public domain networking for PCs?
Keywords: Networks, telnet, ftp, ethernet
Organization: University of Maryland University College
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 17:43:19 GMT

What are the cheap (read: free) ways to hook up PCs (and possibly MACs)
using Ethernet cards and a NeXT. I mainly want the PCs to communicate
with the NeXT. I assume I can use telnet for this-correct? What about
FTP, are there any PD ftp programs for the PC and Mac? Are there any
PD networking software for PCs that could used in conjunction with a 
NeXT (eg-network the PCs and the server communicates to the NeXT.)

Any information or opinions on this would be helpful.

Thanks,

Charlie



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				|	brother wizards.
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (Scott A. McIntyre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT Seller wanted...
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:52:20 GMT
Reply-To: S.A.McIntyre@durham.ac.uk
Organization: Durham University
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4


I am looking for someone who sells NeXT computers in the States and
is interested in selling a lot of machines....preferably in the 
East somewhere, but it does not matter.

If you are a NeXT seller, or know someone who is, please respond
directly to me.

Thanks,
Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: mitroo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Varun Mitroo)
Subject: Re: Diagram question
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 02:15:28 GMT

In article <3736@cvbnetPrime.COM> skochhar@cvbnet.prime.com (Sandeep Kochhar x4618 5-2) writes:
>
>hi!
>I've finally started using my Diagram package.  While it seems
>pretty good for many types of diagrams (and has fancy-looking examples),
>I haven't been able to do something that I really need and is normally
>very simple to do, even in drawing packages much simpler than a diagramming
>package:
>
> 1. Basically, I want to have rectangles (boxes) whose text label is
>    horizontally and vertically centered in them.  So far, it seems to me
>    that Diagram's boxes have horizontally centered labels, but not
>    vertically (they seem to start near the top of the box).
>
>  2. Similar problems with the text (objects?) as well.  They don't seem
>     to have a good notion of "natural" size.  I have to manually resize
>     them to the smallest box.  This is again a pain when I need to
>     vertically center a text with some other object.
>
>Can someone tell me what I'm missing and/or the manual pages to read?
>

What you need to do is use the rectangles without their labels and place the
text as separate objects.  When you're happy with the placement, group the
text and rectangle <cmd-g>.  If you have many rectangles of the same size,
it's much simpler to copy one and paste it several times than to do it
manually every time.  Grouping the two objects also gives you better control
over text wrapping (eg. in the triangular and diamond shaped objects).

Overall, Diagram is an excellent program!  It's very easy and convenient to
use, the results are almost always what you want, and the interface is very
well designed.  Someone really sweated bullets over this program!  EVERYBODY
in higher education should buy a copy.  It costs $25.00 from NextConnection -
well, $28 with shipping.  It's the kind of program that you don't use all
the time, but when you need to do something such as making a figure for a
paper, it's very handy.

Varun

PS - It really helps to learn the command keys when using this program.
From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: TheBigMouth
Date: 20 Aug 92 16:22:27 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Aug20.134543.21627@ppgfr.uucp> wolpert@mars (Florian  
Wolpert) writes:
> rseguine@buckeye.mitre.org (Roy SeGuine) writes:
> : Can someone tell me how to use TheBigMouth?  The copy I got contained  
no  
> : README.:-(
> Place TheBigMouth in your ~/Apps directory (/LocalApps also possible)
> and start TheBigMouth. Then run the texteditor and type something, 
> now select the text and look into your services-menu ... 
> Don't be too disappointed about the results !
> 
> Flo.

Why not be disappointed?  I was.  That sucker was something like 4 megs,  
so I was expecting something usable.  I tried it for 30 seconds, then  
quickly did a "rm -rf TheBigMouth".

fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu
From: rscott@spock.NMSU.Edu (Joseph Good)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: NeXT fonts
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:58:13 GMT
Organization: New Mexico State University


ARe there any other FTP archives other than the Sonata one that store
fonts that are usable on the NeXT's????

I have all the Sonata ones, and am in a Font Frenzy...

Anxious!!!

--

Joseph Good
+-------------------+ - More than just a band....
| Green Dot Brigade | - It's a whole damn army of dots...
+-------------------+ - And we've declared war on the 7-Up dots...

rscott@nmsu.edu (NeXT mail welcome!!) (main account)

atlantis@acca.nmsu.edu  (Just plain ol' Unix) (seldom used)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: ADC Fibermux Crossbow + LightWatch
Summary: Look + Feel conflict???
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Distribution: comp.sys.next.misc
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 12:14:28 GMT


Hi.

We're considering buying a pair of Fibermux Crossbow hubs for our
network (PC's + Macs).  I was reading over the marketing hype,
and when I saw the interface for the PC version of LightWatch I
had to wonder if they had seen a NeXT before...talk about look
and feel similarities...  Even the Sun version looks like they 
got a few UI ideas from NeXT, although with Motif windows.  But
if you haven't seen it I'd recommend checking it out - it looks
so much like NeXTStep (tm) that I wonder if they didn't develop it 
on a NeXT and then just write (copy) the interface for PC (this
runs on DOS).

So what does the net think?  IS the sincerest form of flattery
imitation...?

Regards,
Thor
edmtl@fiol.uib.no
-that which does not kill us makes us stronger. Nietzsche
From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: Renderman *.rib example files?  FTP site?
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:03:05 GMT
Organization: sio
NNTP-Posting-Host: lutherlab.ucsd.edu



>Does anyone know of an FTP site with examples of Renderman scenes?  I'd like 
>to try rendering some scenes on my poor 2 MFLOP NeXT.

>        Avery Wang


There's some stuff on sonata.cc.purdue.edu in /pub/next/submissions:

   look for ribs.README and ribs.tar.Z

Jeff Bytof
rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: jonb@infoman.com (Jon Buffington)
Subject: NFS server recommendations?
Reply-To: jonb@infoman.com
Organization: Information Management Inc.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 14:28:48 GMT


I am interested in anyone's experiences using or administering various NFS  
servers with NeXT equipment as clients. I am especially interested in  
whether an HP 9000 or Sun SparcServer would make a good NFS server for a  
group of 30 NeXT seats.

Thanks in advance.
-jonb-
-- 
Jon Buffington <internet:>jonb@infoman.com <uucp:>uunet!infoman!jonb
Information Management Inc.	NeXT VAD	Atlanta, GA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wjs@blorf.cpac.washington.edu (William Shipley)
Subject: Re: Developer's RenderMan images too big (was: Non-standard TIFF format?)
Organization: University of Washington
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:00:21 GMT

wisdom@geom.umn.edu writes:
> Does anyone know if this  
> is a problem with tiff images generated by all versions of non-NeXT  
> PhotoRealistic Renderman (we are using sgi renderman 3.1)?

Actually, it's a problem with the NeXT version of the "Pixar Developer's  
RenderMan Toolkit" as well.

Of course, since this toolkit costs $2500 and you only get sources for the  
shaders and some image manipulation tools and some libraries you really don't  
need too much on the NeXT (and of course the older version of the prman  
renderer), most NeXT owners probably aren't going to buy the toolkit.

Here's hoping someone writes a nice conversion app to display these images.   
Actually, I'd love to petition Pixar to release their RenderApp into the public  
domain, since I have a modified version of it that allows you to cut and save  
good NeXT TIFFs.  (But since the sources are Pixar's I can't share it.)

BTW, for those of you with access to the Pixar Toolkit, RenderApp does work  
with the version of RenderMan bundled with 3.0.  Phew.

-W
From: ede978e@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Robert D. Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Cleaning the keyboard
Summary: Cleaning the keyboard
Date: 21 Aug 92 19:25:38 GMT
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus

Can somebody explain how to clean out the gunk in my keyboard?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc