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From: rider@geloser.CAM.ORG (Serge Ayotte)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Registration
Keywords: Registration
Date: 31 Jul 92 00:46:00 GMT
Organization: Gentleman Loser System, Montreal/Qc/Cdn

ajchuah@mtu.edu ([*BARK*]) writes:

> 
> 	It just occured to me to ask this question.  I know most
> of the people here bought OS2 V2.0.  I know i did.
> 	How many of us here actually registered OS2?
> Yes, registered.  I don't presume sending in the rebate
> form for Windoze is called registration.  So maybe we
> can get a poll of hands as to how many of us here actually
> bothered to get it registered?  Thanx.
> 

Well, you can add me to the list of those that registered their OS/2
2.0. I still wonder if they ever received it since I haven't heard a
single word or seen anything ting coming in my mail box OS/2 related...

See You around the 'Net!!

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: affie@earley.sns.neuphilologie.uni-tuebingen.de (Ralf Affie Hauser)
Subject: OS!2 2.0 DESKTOP does not reply...
Keywords: DESKTOP
Organization: sns
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:18:37 GMT

Hi freaks,

Since the last week I have a(nother) strange bug on my system (486/33, AMI, 16MB
ADAPTEC 1542B, WINTARGA (ET4000)):

Sometimes, only sometimes, my boot sequence does not finish! After displaying my
desktop background bitmap and before displaying all desktop objects (folders,
printers, shredder etc) the system halts, waits about 30 seconds and displays a
message box called: "OS!2 2.0 Desktop does not respond, <OK> <Abort>".

If I press <OK> the display clears, bitmap-earth disappears, a few more seconds
pass by and bitmap re-appears, desktop objects appear but neither the folders do
open, nor programs contained in the startup folder do run.

If I press <abort> nothing happens.

Since I have changed my whole configuration during the last days (patches
installed, desktop rearrangement etc) I cannot fix the change responsible for 
this ugly bug.

Does anybody know a reason (and a solution ) for it???

	affie.

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	Ralf "Affie" Hauser
	Seminar fuer Sprachwissenschaft
	Kleine Wilhelmstrasse 113
	7400 Tuebingen - WestGermany
	e-mail: affie@frege.sns.neuphilologie.uni-tuebingen.de

	The human mind ordinarily operates at only ten percent of its capacity
		-- the rest is overhead for the operating system.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: bli@hubcap.clemson.edu (Bao Li)
Subject: Help! Can ET4000 VGA card work with IBM 8514 monitor?
Organization: Clemson University, Clemson SC
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 23:32:38 GMT



I have a ET4000 VGA card with 1 MB. The BIO date on the card is 9/90.
I am considering to buy a used IBM 8514 monitor. Is there anybody
know if I can use my ET4000 card with IBM 8514 monitor (the monitor
has .31 dp and 57 KHz horizontal scan frequency at 1024x768).

Thanks in advance.

Bao Li
bli@hubcap.clemson.edu
From: ted@isgtec.com (Ted Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Problem using 1024x768x256c ATI VGAWONDER driver
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:31:28 GMT
Organization: ISG Technologies Inc. Mississauga Ont. Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

jelson@poincare.cs.jhu.edu (Jeremy Elson) writes:
: 
: I'm running OS/2 on a 386/33 clone with 16MB ram, and an ATI VGAWONDERXL
: card with 1MB RAM hooked up to a NEC Multisync 4D.
: 
: I ftp'd the 1024x768x256c driver from ftp-os2.nmsu.edu and tried
: to install it.. made sure SVGA was on, ran the patch program on the 
: driver, booted dos, replaced the display.dll with the patched driver,
: and rebooted to OS/2.
: 
: The desktop comes up in the correct mode and looks good EXCEPT -- there
: is an amazing "flicker" -- there is a flickering "shadow" of all on-screen
: objects about 2-3 inches to the right of the "real" object.  This is not
: an interlacing flicker (my monitor is non-interlaced anyway) ... it looks
: like WPS is trying to draw each window, icon, etc. in 2 locations at once!
: 
: Has anyone had a similar problem or know of a solution?

I had exactly the same problem.  My solution was just to run the driver
WITHOUT running the patch program - just unzip it and use it.

By the way, make sure you get the newest ATI Windows 3.0 drivers (file
ATIWIN30.ZOO on ftp-os2,nmsu.edu or the ATI BBS).  They are dated July
16, I think.  They solve most of the problems with switching between
the desktop and WINOS2 full screen sessions.  I do seem to still have
problems after a hard boot, but doing a CTRL-ALT-DEL fixes up the problem.

--
Ted Richards            ted@isgtec.com             [...!uunet.ca!isgtec!ted]
ISG Technologies Inc.   3030 Orlando Dr. Mississauga  Ont.  Canada   L4V 1S8
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan)
Subject: Fix for Trident full-screen problem
Originator: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 19:55:19 GMT


I've put a patch from Trident into pub/downloads on hobbes.nmsu.edu.
The patch fixes problems people have had when they switch back and
forth from DOS or OS/2 fullscreens to the WPS.

--Tony
quan@cs.stanford.edu
From: mhuth@byron.u.washington.edu (Mark Huth)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: TIGA and me
Date: 21 Jul 92 06:13:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Jul21.061304.14073
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

I've heard that there are no drivers for TIGA cards available under os/2.  
Natch, I've got a TIGA card in one machine.  Can anyone point me at TIGA drivers?
Thanks in advance.

-- 
Mark Huth                         * Is it too wild to want to get into 
Mhuth@u.washington.edu            * Space someday?
Compuserve 70346,563              *
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: T104244@r3vm.dsd.trw.com
Subject: DOS Printing in OS/2 incomplete. HELP!
Organization: TRW Electronic Systems Group
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:45:04 GMT

Hi Netters,
I just took the plunge and installed OS/2..finally got it up and running...
just tried to run some DOS programs from the DOS command line...and tried
to print...but the beginning portions of all my text print jobs get cut off..
eg.  if I do a DIR *.* > LPT1, only the last few lines print ...if the
print job is less than a few lines, it won't print at all.  Can any help?
I have:
386-33 w/ 8 MB RAM (clone-AMI BIOS)
Panasonic KXP-1123 printer
Thanks in advance!
Ernie
T104244@r3vm.dsd.trw.com
Lines: 24
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 09:49:18 MDT
From: earlyd@ee.byu.edu (David Early)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: My theory on why OS/2 has problems...


In article <1992Jul31.153304.27292@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>, quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan) writes:
> 
> I've been using OS/2 for almost 4 months now without a problem and
> am amazed by the variety of problems with OS/2 that people report here.
> My guess on what's going on:  a lot of the problems are caused by
> people running OS/2 on no-name clones that aren't 100% compatible.
> These machines run DOS and maybe even Windows fine, but the higher
> demands of OS/2 expose the incompatibilities.  Any comments?
> 
> --Tony
> quan@cs.stanford.edu
> 
> P.S.  I'm running OS/2 on a Gateway 2000 386/33 with 12 MB of RAM.


I agree.  It would seem that although testing was done on many clones, some machines that are not
100% compatible and are exposed by OS/2.  We had problems here at BYU with a machine that had
continuing problems with OS/2: various system errors and the like that were not repeatable, even when 
the user tried to duplicate them as best she could.  Out of curiosity we swapped machines to a Comtrade
box and had no problems with anything.  We even swapped the memory and the all the cards from the
old box.  Same software, same user and we had no problems.

Dave Early
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Subject: Re: Nowhere directory?
Reply-To: dab6@po.CWRU.Edu (Douglas A. Bell)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 13:38:03 GMT


In a previous article, sean@curry1.austin.ibm.com () says:

>
>In article <1992Jul23.005121.7666@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, dab6@po.CWRU.Edu
>(Douglas A. Bell) writes:
>|> 
>|> Has anyone been able to figure out what the nowhere directory is for?
>|> 
>|> Is there anyway to get rid of it?
>|> 
>
>Don't get rid of it (if you even can).  NOWHERE is used by the OS as sort
>of a temporary place to put things that it wants to hide from you.  One
>example is a 'Find Results' folder is usually built in there.      You can
>use this directory in your own REXX programs, and otherwise if you wish.
>
>Generally it is empty, so it shouldn't take up any real disk space.  So
>why worry about it in the first place?

It disturbs my sense of order.  I don't like leaving a lot of garbage in
the root directory.  I wish there was some way to get the nowhere directory
and the spool directory out of the root and hang them off of the os2 
directory, but hiding the directories is almost good enough.

I also dislike the *.ini files in my root that klondike & neko leave
there.  Whose computer is it anyway, mine or IBM's?

I would have been happier if OS/2 was more orderly and kept itself
in one directory tree.  The way things are right now seems rather
arbitrary.
From: tom@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Tom Aurand)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Idea for a unique delete?(for lack of a better description)
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:33:31 GMT
Reply-To: tom@longs.LANCE.ColoState.EDU (Tom Aurand)
Organization: Colorado State U. Center for Computer Assisted Engineering.

In article <1992Jul29.152129.12105@njitgw.njit.edu>,
dic5340@hertz.njit.edu (David Charlap) writes:
> In article <1992Jul28.021155.2322@midway.uchicago.edu>
sip1@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
> 
> >Terrific idea.  Another possibility: have an icon of a shark (Jaws)
> >gobbling things on the screen.
> 
> Well, if you want a silly interface, I've had this idea for the Mac
> for years:
> 
> As more icons get added to the trash, the can swells bigger and bigger
> (right now, it swells to a fixed size if there's anything in it, and
> looks normal only with nothing in it).  When you pick "Empty Trash", a
> truck drives up and dumps the icons out of the can into the truck (you
> see the icons being dumped from can into truck).  The files are
> removed when the truck drives off the screen.  At any time, you could
> click on the truck (flag it down?) an extract something from it before
> it gets away.
> 
Then, why not simply bring in a pickup truck icon, back it up to the back 
of the trash hauller have a tiny little robot icon unload the icon to be
saved from the trash hauller onto the back of the pickup, then drive around
the desktop until it decides on a good location, then an even smaller robot
icon lower the icon on the tommy lift tailgate to the desk top then drive
itself off the desktop?
From: layes@ug.cs.dal.ca (Jonathan Layes)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Stacker in a specific dos session?
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:20:55 GMT
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada

I've been helping a friend with the installation of os/2 2.0, and I
decided that I would try getting the Stacker driver going, despite
all the people that say it can't be done.  It won't load in a simulated
session, but I have had some success in getting it to work under
a specific dos session.  The driver loads, but the stacked drives come
up as write protected!  Other than not being able to write to the 
stacked drives, there seems to be no problems.  Does anyone know
how to get around this problem?  Most of what is on his hard disk is
useless junk that could be removed, but un-stacking drives is a 
cumbersome task regardless.

Thanks for any ideas,
Jonathan


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From: joe2@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 16:31:55 FST
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: TSENG users, READ THIS!
Reply-To: <joe2@vnet.ibm.com>
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not those of IBM
News-Software: UReply 3.0

In <hjkirch.712479930@morpheus> Hans-Joachim Kirchhoff (StudA writes:
>I've just installed the new Windows 3.1 ET4000 drivers, I got via anonym
>ftp. The readme-file contains some very interesting line:
>
>
>^stuff deleted:
>
>
>Contact them and let them know, we all *NEED* proper ET4000 drivers for
>OS/2. The only drivers I know of, that exists to day, are the STB and the
>Orchid drivers, both in beta. These guys above wrote the ET4000 Windows
>drivers, sure they can do the same for OS/2.
>Sometimes, we users *CAN* make a difference. I just read, Colorado Backup
>Systems are working to make OS/2 drivers available for the end of *THIS* year.
>That is quite a different statement than the one, just two months ago.
>
>So mail to 73520.204@compuserve.com and tell the "techies" at TSENG our
>problem.
>The more mail, the better.
>
>-Hajo
>

No... you WILL have your Tseng drivers anyway, so please avoid
this.

-Joel Armengaud

ps: Please don't ask me when. I think they will be released
with the 32bit graphic engine.
From: sstrazdu@pima.intel.com (Stephen Strazdus)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: Sorting the dir trees (Was: Some gripes about OS/2 2.0)
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:13:25 GMT
Organization: Intel Corp, Chandler, AZ

In article <1992Jul21.120249.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
|>In article <1992Jul19.061100.19096@infonode.ingr.com>, bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown) writes:
|>> 
|>> Why doesn't the directory tree window sort the directories and files?
|>> I tried the "sort" "by name" menu item, no dice.
|>> 
|>
|>Something I didn't originally realize is that you can set the sort order
|>for each "object type" (File System, Icon, etc...) in a folder's settings
|>notebook.  Ergo... If you fiddle with the sort settings, you CAN get the
|>directory tree window to sort the directories & files.  Unfortunately,
|>I'm not quite sure what settings did it for me!!  Try setting each
|>individual object type to sort by Name.  Also, setting individual directory
|>icon-view folders to "Sort Filesystem Type" and everything else to "Name"
|>will give you a display with all like-type objects grouped, sorted by name.

Working from Tom's suggestions I found out that if you pull up the
settings dialog, go to the sort tab, and check "Always maintain sort
order", you directory trees will be sorted.  If the tree view is already
open, you will have to close it and open it again for changes to take
effect.  I suspect it is supposed to sort if you choose sort from the
menu (why else would it be there?).  Must be another bug.
--
Steve Strazdus    sstrazdu@sedona.intel.com
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: sip1@ellis.uchicago.edu (Timothy F. Sipples)
Subject: Re: Upper/lower case swapping ????
Reply-To: sip1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: Dept. of Econ., Univ. of Chicago
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:44:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.213327.15028@scott.skidmore.edu> pvonk@scott.skidmore.edu (Pierre VonKaenel) writes:
>Using my comm program (Xtalk for Win), if I type too fast, the case
>switches.  Without caps lock, I get upper case, with it I get lower
>case.  The trouble starts when I try non alpha symbols ( . or 4 for
>example).  What I get is > and $.  I can't get . or 4 in either caps
>lock mode.  When I get out of the emacs (UNIX) editor and back in to
>edit, sometimes things get straightened out (I call our UNIX box from
>my OS/2 home machine).  I haven't had this happen with other software,
>and it never happened in Windows.  I suspect Xtalk, but maybe it's the
>combination with OS/2.  Anyone experience the same thing?

I haven't, but here's a guess on how to fix the problem.

In the settings for your Win-OS/2 session try switching
KBD_BUFFER_EXTEND off and KBD_RATE_LOCK on.  Or vice versa --
experiment with these settings (in all four permutations).

-- 
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directory pub/os2/all/faq, or from      | Dept. of Econ., U. Chicago, 60637
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From: urbndv8@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Bleeding Rivets)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: ati graphics ultra
Date: 25 Jul 1992 02:46:41 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
Distribution: comp
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Jul24.1480.22900@dosgate> "roger ramsey" <roger.ramsey@canrem.com> writes:
>Man Kit Tang wrote on 07-22-92 regarding ATI GRAPHICS ULTRA:
>
>MK>Well, for an AT bus based coprocessed grahics card.  Most of the 
>MK>advantage gain does come from reducing bandwidth requirement of the AT 
>MK>bus.  The Mach 8 does some graphics primitive pretty well, but for that 
>MK>matter, a 486 is not bad either.
>
>I think you'll find that 1024x768x256 on a 386/33 with a Graphics Ultra 
>will be faster than a 486/33 with a plain dumb frame buffer SVGA card.



Changing CPU's to one that is twice as fast might give you ~ 10% speed
improvement or so, if you already have a CPU fast enough to keep the bus
busy; i.e. from a 386/33 to a 486/33.
This proves to me it's not processor power that makes the real difference.

>
>MK>So, one more time, the problem of HIGH resolution graphics 
>MK>performance of most PC compatibles with AT based controller is the 
>MK>limited bandwidth of the AT bus.
>
>From the point of view that, using your above example, the 486 would have 
>to calculate every pixel and then send it across the bus rather than a 
>series of instructions to the card, then yes the bus becomes a limiting 
>factor.
>
>Roj
>

Your original statement was that the purpose of coprocessed video cards
was to take the load off the CPU.  I find this hard to believe in light of
the fact that even a much faster CPU won't improve graphics speed much.
If the CPU were being taxed by calculating pixels, and this is what kept
video speed down, then a 2x faster CPU should draw a screen 2x as fast,
and this is definitely not the case.

(The above assumes both CPU's are using a dumb video card; with a coprocessed
video card the bottleneck (in some cases) might once again be the CPU, since
the bus traffic would be so greatly diminished.)

> ~ WinQwk 2.0 a#473 ~ Reality is for those who can't handle Star Trek.
>--
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human...Why have we not yet acquired this insight in relation to the world
of the free will?  Because outwardly we are the masters of madness, because
the insane are violated by us, and we hinder them from living according to
their ethical laws...Now we must endeavor to overcome the dead point in our
realtionship to insanity."       --Wieland Herzfelde, 1914
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: cooper@cos.com (Gary Cooper)
Subject: OK - I've bought it...
Summary: What do I need to know
Organization: Corporation for Open Systems
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:25:22 GMT

I broke down last night and bought OS/2 2.0, and the first thing
I did today was to subscribe to the OS/2 groups.
(I've got the OS/2 FAQ list and Que's "Using OS/2 2.0")

My question is:

Before I even start to delve into the system (or even install it)
what do I need to know about OS/2 in relation to my specific
system setup?

386/40
100 Meg IDE Conner HD 
AMI BIOS
4 Meg RAM (I know I need probably 4 Meg more)
Soundblaster (basic)
Modem on COM 4 (Compudyne)
Orchid Prodesigner IIs VGA (1 meg)
MS-DOS 5.0
Windows 3.1

This has probably all been hashed over before, so email is fine
(as long as you're SURE of your info :>


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Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
From: krc@wam.umd.edu (Kevin R. Coombes)
Subject: Re: where is fc (file compare) ?
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 18:21:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.133109.26503@nrcnet0.nrc.ca> chan@holo.iitsg.nrc.ca (Les Chan) writes:
>
>
>In the redbook volume 2 they list some new commands for os2 2.0,
>which were introduced to IBM DOS 5.0.  One program is fc "Intelligent
>file compare utility", but I can't find this anywhere.  I find that
>comp is nearly useless and most MSDOSs had fc since version 3.3.
>Is this utility really missing or is it just me?
>
>
>Les

It's not just you. When I first got OS/2, I hunted through to see what
was missing from DOS 5.0, and FC was the only thing I thought I would
miss. I was quite surprised when Redbook volume 2 said it had been
added after all -- I still haven't seen it!

Kevin Coombes <krc@math.umd.edu>
From: ra.csc.ti.com!fritz@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Minimized Window Viewer problems
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:03:00 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant

I have been using OS/2 for a few weeks now with no severe problems,
but have run onto a minor irritation that I can't seem to find the
answer for.  No matter how much I change the settings, I can't seem to
get a minimized Icon to show up in the Minimized Window Viewer.  I can
change the settings to make them be hidden when minimized, but if not
hidden, then they always show up at the bottom of my desktop when
minimized, with seemingly complete disregard for the setting that
clearly says that they should be put in the Minimized Window Viewer.

Is this a known bug that everyone sees, or is it a bug on certain
installations?  Little things like this, if not well-known bugs, leave
me with the uncomfortable feeling that I may have minor corruptions in
the system, and that there may be some more serious problems due to
this that just haven't surfaced yet.
-- 
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75230
fritz@csc.ti.com                Office: +1 214 917 7437    FAX: +1 214 917 
7487
_Since I am not an official TI spokesperson, these opinions contain no 
spokes._
From: heinz@edohwg.UUCP (Heinz Wrobel)
Newsgroups: comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: Re: no service after 1994 ?
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:20:36 GMT
Organization: Edotronik GmbH

In article <712307170snx@feki.toppoint.de> marten@feki.toppoint.de (Marten Feldtmann) writes:
>Well, what does this mean?
>
> Service expiration date :
>
> 4/30/94 No program services are available after this date
>
>
>One can read this on all packages of OS/2.

It boils down to: After this date we consider this piece of SW obsolete and
		  won't support it in this version in any way any longer.

>Marten Feldtmann			  E-Mail: marten@tpki.toppoint.de

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