From: v5086u6r@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu (Naveed S Memon)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: SALMAN RUSHDIE
Date: 13 Sep 92 14:57:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
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In article <1992Sep13.023411.11312@sol.cs.wmich.edu>, sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani) writes...
>In article <BuHrCt.Gnv@acsu.buffalo.edu>, memon@acsu.buffalo.edu (Naveed Siraj Memon) writes:
>> In article <1992Sep12.222136.11186@sol.cs.wmich.edu> sherwani@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Naveed Sherwani) writes:
>> >I just came back from PSA meeting. Everybody (almost all students) appeared very
>> >angry about very mudane things. Membership, events, etc. Maybe it is our blood
>> >to get angry too quickly, or maybe it is cultural, whatever, it is, it is
>> >bad. Getting angry is waste of time. 
>> >
>> Actually I am glad that I will not have to see the Freshmen/women of this Fall.
>> They have always been a major turn off. Actually anger is healthy, because
>> then you dont keep it inside and say it aloud. For instance, yesterday my
>> graduate advisor and I were scheduled to meet to discuss the final version of
>> the write-up. The guy did not show up. So the angry young man that I am, I 
>> knocked at his door and got into my singing mood, "one of these days, I am
>> going to cut you into little pieces". I was glad he was'nt in. See anger 
>> works. A few maaN behaNs have a soothing effect on me. 
>> 
>> >> 
>> >> the younger, skinnier Naveed
>> >
>> >The older and cooler Naveed
>> >
>> >regards,
>> >
>> >-Naveed
>> >
>> >PS: BTW, the remark about `skinnier' is well taken, I am joining gym ASAP :-)
>> 
>> Actually I wish there was some kind of a gym that I could go to, to gain wait.
>> I work out, then let obese women massage me with whipped cream. Then you
>> jello-wrestle with them and lick the gooey stuff off their face. I dont think
>> the netters want any more of my fantasies. But chubbiness is good, Naveed Bhai
>> womed really dig that. I mean not the women on STUDS ofcourse but average
>> women like the sound of body slapping, me thinks. Damn it! THe automatic
>> censor went off again. Damn!
>> 
>> 
>> The younger, hornier Naveed :) 
> 
>Being 145, instead of 140 is one thing, being chubby is another. 
> 
>While we are on strange topics:
> 
> I went to guns & roses concert recently. It is a joint metallica, GNR, Faith No More
>concert. The crowd was tough, as expected, but nothing serious happened until 
>intermission between Metallica and GNR. During this period, the camera-person will
>focus the camera on a female and crowd will encourage her to bare her chest. If she
>would refuse, they would BO her. I was with my girl friend and she was very deeply
>offended by this, so was I. I looked around to see exactly, who was having fun with
>this. I saw that most females were looking very angry with all this going ons. 
>Obviously the camera-person kept the camera to only the front rows, where all the
>groupies are, and they were sure of some cooperation. 
> 
>If females were offended, why didnt they say anything ? All me and my girlfriend did
>was not to participate in the process, i.e; look away. But that is silent protest.
> 
>This went on for some 15-20 minutes.
> 
>BTW, if some SCPians have been to New Orleans, during Madigras, similar things happen there.
>But in that case, females bare their chests, if you throw them beads. Most of the females
>appear to be from middle class families and willingly participate in the process. Although
>some males also bare themselves there. That is a wild place.
> 
>I went with some university professors and these (usually very respectable) folks were
>throwing beads to females and urging them on. It is interesting ti see people with
>their guard down.
> 
>Just thought that I spice up the SCP, with bare-chest female stories.
> 
>BTW, I have no objection to bare-chested females (I support equal rights for males
>and females for clothing restrictions), but I do object to females bare-chested
>under crowd pressure. In addition, no male was asked to bare his genitals/chest
>or anything in that concert. If for equality they asked both females and males,
>then perhaps it would be okay (logically speaking). Although I am kind a conservative
>person and prefer that people keep private things to themselves.
> 
> 
>The older and in-a-stable-relationship Naveed
> 
>PS: As far as the concert goes, Metallica was pretty bad, GNR was good, two thumbs up.
> November Rain was played for a long time, with lots of improv, etc. Thay played all
> their good songs.

Naveed Bhai, you went to a Guns N Roses concert and you were actually expecting
social "correctness"? :)  Actually I have hated this group eversince I read the
following lyrics in their debut album, btw I have gone through these lines 
before on s.c.p, and alt.rocknroll, they lines were

"you faggots and foreigners, you come to this country and spread the f'ing
disease?".  These lines appeared in the Rollong Stones in 87 when GnR hit the
13 year old ninja-turtles for the first time. Axl Rose at that time defended
his sentiments towards "Pakis and Iranians working at 7-11s", these days I have
heard that he says that he was too young at the time. Earlier this year, the
ex-homophobe headlined the Freddy Mercury tribute/charity concert at Wembley.
For me, political correctness of a band is important although a dear friend,
who read the Axl interview after I mailed it to him, asked me to listen to 
the music and stop thinking too much, but I always wonder if you can separate
the artist from his ideas. If you want to check out the GnR song in question, it
is called "One in a million". Actually GnR fans[the whites mainly, have yet to
see a black man wearing a GnR Tshirt] give me the creeps :) but ofcourse I 
cannot picture you with a tattoed serpent on your chubby arm saying VLSI sucks!
:)

Actually I agree about nudity. A few girls from Rochester and Buffalo protested
these anti-nudity laws at the 4th of July holiday, they claimed that it was their
right to go bare chested if the men did so too. So they stood at the
Peace Bridge[that connects US-Canada] bare chested as a protest. A PSA picnic
was immediately rescheduled to the 4th. :)


The younger and about-to-get-into-a-stable-relationship Naveed