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From: Sheila.Fava@f68.n382.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila Fava)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: CONTACT SPORTS....
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:41:33 GMT
Reply-To: Sheila.Fava@f68.n382.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:382/68 - Diabetes Discussion, Austin TX
X-Fidonet: Abled Athlete Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24742

[This is from the Abled Athlete Conference]

In a message to Sheila Fava <10-01-92 06:43> John Hargrove wrote:

JH> Tx School for the Blind must not of heard.  They have a football team
JH> which  plays full contact football.  Uses a base drum to get their
JH> insturction from.

When a formalized school has a team with a dedicated adaptive
Coach, Diez, it is possible that a contact sport for blind athletes
is organized.  Question:  Does the TX School compete -outside- the
school system?  Must they travel far to compete with other schools
on an equal basis?  The basic word is 'Safety'.  There are too few
teams that are able to travel to a National or Regional Games.
Tell you what:  The National Games For the Physically disABLED will
be played in Texas (DFW) at one of the Universities either in 1993
or 1994.  If the Texas School f/t Blind -challenges- TWO other
teams, and gets approval in writing, I'll bet there will be a
football competition at the Games.

Then again...Who wants to play feetsball in Texas in -JULY-?  NOVEMBER, yes.

                    ---Sheila

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From: Fran.O'gorman@f94.n272.z1.fidonet.org (Fran O'gorman)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: S.I.G.N.S.
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:22:38 GMT
Reply-To: Fran.O'gorman@f94.n272.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:272/94 - Monroe Electronic M, Monroe NY
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24875

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

Hi Rick,

 RC> An international search is taking place in order to locate any
 RC> existing specific sign language terminoligy which would be
 RC> appropriate in meeting this committee's objectives. If none
 RC> exists, then it will be developed. The newly developed signs would
 RC> then be shared with the organizations associated with gathering
 RC> information for the education of hearing impaired/deaf individuals.

 RC> Comments are always welcomed.

The general reason behind your effort sounds noble, but I feel I
should warn you that, as was learned with Esperanto (an
international language that was made up to facilitate
communication) unless the langauge already exists and people are
already using it, a new, made up one doesn't seem to take hold.
Language evolves in use, so with the exception of defining
technical terms, if ASL is what most folk use, that's what they'll
continue to use.

--Fran

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From: Carol.Ashland@p0.f319.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Ashland)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: BINGO Cards
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:28:20 GMT
Reply-To: Carol.Ashland@p0.f319.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/319.0 - Mostly Mail, Aloha OR
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24959

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 SB> Our local visually handicapped group is in need of some new BINGO
 SB> cards.  We have some old ones that are beginning to fall apart.
 SB> The kind I am wanting to find are the good old wooden ones with the
 SB> square holes and the wooden insert covers.  Some one thought APh use

I think The American Foundation for the Blind still sells the kind of
bingo cards you are after.

Carol

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From: Carol.Ashland@p0.f319.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Carol Ashland)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Welfare Mentality
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:11:17 GMT
Reply-To: Carol.Ashland@p0.f319.n105.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/319.0 - Mostly Mail, Aloha OR
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25074

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 JD> Way to go Carol.
 JD> And what is important from my perspective, is realizing that all
 JD> blinks have different limitations.  This is no different from our
 JD> sighted counterparts.  We are all different. I may not be able to jump
 JD> in the car to go get a case of beer, but hey, I can certainly enjoy a
 JD> cold one!

I am glad someone else sees things the same way I do.  You are totally
right.  I am always very disturbed when I hear people disparaging others
because they are not as independent as others think they should be.
People are doing the best they can, by and large, I really think.  I
might not do something the way someone else would do it, but that's just
me.  I am not perfect either.  For example, I very much dislike getting
a clerk in a grocery store to find things for me.  I would much rather
ask a relative or friend to help with shopping, and shop less often.
Some people don't mind asking the clerks at all though.  Does that make
me dependent on my friends or relatives?  I really am not sure.

Carol

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From: Alan.Fonseca@f715.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Alan Fonseca)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Speech
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:26:45 GMT
Reply-To: Alan.Fonseca@f715.n153.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/715 - The BandMaster, Vancouver BC
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24948

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

        Much thanks for your very informative reply. Since I put that
        enquiry out I have learnt there are several speech
        synthesizers available but only a few are portable. All will
        work with a Laptop (connect to serial or parallel port). So I
        can buy any Laptop that suites my needs and install
        synthesizer along with software.

        Problem is - which one sounds best? I have A.L.S. which has
        paralyzed my speech so I need this for everyday speech. The
        speech must be intelligible to those who are not used to
        electronic speech. I will try to get in touch with Arctic -
        they may have a local rep. The cost is high but I may be able
        to get funding from local Associations.

        I have also got info. from Words+ out of Lancaster, CA who are
        specialists in this field (their only business). They also
        have a small synthesizer (weighs 1 lb.) and incredible
        software. Haven't got prices yet but hear they are also steep.

        So I continue my search, thanks.........

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From: Katie.K@f583.n520.z1.fidonet.org (Katie K)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: ADVOCATE
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:00:16 GMT
Reply-To: Katie.K@f583.n520.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:520/583
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25043

 hi everyone,

i'm new here and would appreciate your input; i am orginizing a
grass roots advocacy group here in arkansas,and would love to hear
any ideas or advice from all of you

   thanks alot
       katie

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From: Betty.Mcbroom@f27.n3615.z1.fidonet.org (Betty Mcbroom)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Sign References
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:23:03 GMT
Reply-To: Betty.Mcbroom@f27.n3615.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3615/27 - TN Deafness I N BBS, Knoxville TN
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24878

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

RC>Hi folks.... long time no type...

RC>Once again I need help! So... I turn to you....

RC>My son has just begun a vocational class... Book Binding!

RC>I need to find a good sign reference book, pamphlet, or whatever which
RC>will show me univerisal signs for what he may experience in this class.
RC>I'd also be interested in sign reference books which may deal with any
RC>other specific type of shop signs.

       Try N.T.I.D. (National Technical Ins. for Deaf) in Rochester,
       NY.   Or some of the community colleges that have programs for
       the deaf (one is in St. Petersburg, Fla., another in Minnesota,
       another in New Orleans).  If no one else has replied to you,
       let me know and I'll find the addresses for you.   Good luck!

 ~ OLX 2.2 ~ Don't take life too seriously.  It isn't permanent.

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From: Sheila.Fava@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila Fava)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Shhh survey information
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:43:44 GMT
Reply-To: Sheila.Fava@f24.n3602.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3602/24 - ADAnet One (tm) Net, Pinson AL
X-Fidonet: Able News Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24751

[This is from the AbleNews Conference]

             MATIONWIDE STUDY:  Self Help for Hard of Hearing

The  national  Institute of disABILITY and Rehabilitation Research
(NIDRR)  has  awarded  Westat  and SHHH funds  to   document   the
rehabilitation  needs  of  hard of hearing individuals in the USA.
Westat is an employee-owned social science research firm.

SHHH and Westat will compile the information by holding six  site
visits  in  the  USA,  conducting  a  national  mail  survey  and
literature review, and convening a panel of  experts  to  provide
input on how hearing loss impacts people with hearing loss.

For more information about the SHHH/Westat project, please
contact:

    Catherine Robards
    Associate Projects Director
    SHHH
    7800 Wisconsin Avenue,
    Bethesda, MD 20814

    Phone:  (301)294-2018
            (TDD and Voice)

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Quoted from _The_SHHH_Journal_  Vol 2 - No. 13 - Page 10
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 # Origin: ADAnet(tm) NetHub Birmingham, Alabama (205)854-9074  (94:94/1)

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From: Rick.Catania@f22.n230.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Catania)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: S.I.G.N.S.
Date: 13 Oct 92 04:22:13 GMT
Reply-To: Rick.Catania@f22.n230.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:230/22 - The Special Needs B, Whiting IN
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24872

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

I'd like to take a moment here to introduce a committee which may very
well make some needed changes within vocational training shops.

Structuring & Identifying Graphic Non-Conformity Signage (S.I.G.N.S.)
is a committee which has been put together in Hammond, Indiana at
Hammond's Workforce Training Center (Area Career Center).

It's Motto is : "Quality Career Communications and Understanding"

Purpose:
Study and develop signs for business and industrial terms to aid the
hearing impaired population.

Objective:
a. Study and develop sign language terms for all classes offered at the
Area Career Center.

b. Enhance intstructor-student communications

c. Encourage social independence in the classroom.

d. Develop methods for interactive participation with peers.

e. Utilize new sign language in classroom as soon as developed.

Design a text for classroom use -

Design software programs for classroom use -

Protocols:
Review protocols for development of sign language.

   -----------------------------------

An international search is taking place in order to locate any
existing specific sign language terminoligy which would be appropriate
in meeting this committee's objectives. If none exists, then it will be
developed. The newly developed signs would then be shared with the
organizations associated with gathering information for the
education of hearing impaired/deaf individuals.

Comments are always welcomed.

If you wish to send a direct comment, send it to me, Rick Catania
Electronically,:    1:230/22 @ FidoNet
                   94:2190/2 @ ADAnet
                   86:8120/6 @ ToadNet

Via U.S Mail:

Rick Catania
P.O. Box 334
Whiting, Indiana 46394

 * SLMR 2.1 #T375 * Everything starts as somebody's daydream.

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From: Derek.Juntunen@f950.n139.z1.fidonet.org (Derek Juntunen)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: HELL or NOT?
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:53:00 GMT
Reply-To: Derek.Juntunen@f950.n139.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:139/950 - Amiga BitSwap Centr, Houghton MI
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 25019

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

 TS> Careful Derek,

 TS> I know Alan has got a lot of problems with pain, and when you mix it
 TS> with quadriplegia, as he put it, it's gotta be hell on earth. I
 TS> haven't
 TS> had the pain problem, but after almost 20 years as a quad it comes
 TS> close to hell. It may not seem bad to you now <which seems hard to
 TS> believe, cause it seemed bad to me at 2 years post>, but wait another
 TS> 18 years then think about it, you eventually get tired of all the
 TS> crap.
 TS> It becomes a day to day mental challenge. It has helped to stay busy
 TS> with different things as Joe and Keith had mentioned earlier, AND a
 TS> sense of humor is always a plus.

Yeh, I shouldn't have said that...I guess I wasn't in a great mood then.
I've apologized.

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From: Val.Dunn@f337.n202.z1.fidonet.org (Val Dunn)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Leg antics
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:44:53 GMT
Reply-To: Val.Dunn@f337.n202.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:202/337 - Yak Attack BBS, La Mesa CA
X-Fidonet: Amputee Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24723

[This is from the Amputee Conference]

-> Now if I could only figure away to pop the leg without having to roll
-> the neoprem(sp) sleeve I can do things like that.  Sounds like fun.
->
-> John

I had one of those sleeves and understand how it feels.  I enjoy being
with people who can take the leg with a joke.  I always try to explain
to those who feel it's cruel... You make jokes about and tease people
with wierd last names, red hair, real tall or real short.  It's normal
for humans to pick on physical characteristics of others.  I have a
fake leg and it's fun to play with.  I went to a picnic planing session
and when I walked up one of my friends was having a heated discussion
with a lady and he asked for a club to beat her with.  He looked at me
and smiled and said "Hand it Over".  I dropped the leg and gave it to
him.  He plopped it down on the table with the same beating threat.  We
all thought she'd NEVER start breathing again.  It seems she was unaware
that I was an amp.  I am very comfortable with these types of friends.

How about you?

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From: dmimi@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Mimi Clifford)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: disability act, deafness, and inpatient hospital care
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:49:32 GMT
Reply-To: dmimi@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Mimi Clifford)
Organization: Olivetti AFD
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24687

[This is a response from the DEAF-L mailing list.]

In regard to meeting the deaf person's needs in a mental health
setting.

With ADA in force, mental health clinics, hospitals, etc., have a
clear responsibility to meet needs with an interpreter or whatever
is necessary.

However, few have made provision for this.  I've looked into the
situation in North Carolina (of course, this is a state
responsiblity usually), to find that there are very few situations
in the State where a deaf or hard of hearing person can get mental
health help that is appropriate for them.

There is one residential unit in one mental hospital that has an
interpreter present at least part of the time.  What happens to
anyone else with such needs I don't know.  I could get side-tracked
here with a question of what happens to an older person who is
either misdiagnosed as mentally incompetent when he/she is deaf or
hard of hearing, or who has both conditions.  But, let me not
digress.

When the mental health facility's staff was asked how many deaf/hoh
people they served, they said "none".  To which I replied, why
should anyone come to you when you can't provide service to them?
"Oh" they said.

Now, in North Carolina, the state Division of Mental Health and the
State Division for the Deaf and Hard of Hearing are collaborating
to provide a variety of services for us.  Which requires that deaf
and hard of hearing people remain active in demanding such
services, whether that behavior is popular or not.

dmimi@ecsvax.uncecs.edu  dmimi@ecsvax.bitnet
Miriam (Mimi) Clifford; 2535 Sevier St, Durham, NC 27705; 919-489-4821
From: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org (William Wilson)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: Speech
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:33:40 GMT
Reply-To: William.Wilson@p0.f89.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/89.0 - BlinkLink, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24991

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 AF> any suggestions where I can try out all these different voice
 AF> systems?

Alan,
    Short of traveling to the NFB Technology center in Baltimore, or the
Pittsburgh Guild for the Blind Computer Training sight, I don't really
have a good suggestion with this one.  If you happened to have a
visually disabled computer user's group in your area, you might be able
to get a pretty good sample from all the systems owned by the members,
as that has worked out fairly well for us here, but for sure, this is a
major problem.

 AF> far as I know the "Multivoice" portable unit doesn't have a
 AF> built-in speaker which is a big disadvantage so I'm considering
 AF> Transport by Arctic and SmoothTalker by Words+.

Hmmm, to tell the truth, I forgot about that!

     It REALLY is a good sounding unit though, and the addition of a
little speaker may still be worth it just to get its speech quality

     Well, it's a thought anyways!
                                        Willie

... Like a bat out of Bellevue!

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From: Les.Kriegler@f207.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Les Kriegler)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Re: editorial
Date: 13 Oct 92 18:19:40 GMT
Reply-To: Les.Kriegler@f207.n260.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/207 - The Recovery Room, Rochester NY
X-Fidonet: Blink Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24911

[This is from the Blink Talk Conference]

 certainly cannot
 IO> understand why when I am getting on a Greyhound bus the driver
 IO> feels it necessary to put his hand in the middle of my back! I
 IO> just politely ask him to remove it. I also cannot understand
 IO> why when sighted people are sitting and we walk by, they have
 IO> to reach out and touch us even when we in turn are being led by
 IO> another sighted person. You know Les, we have to constantly
 IO> educate the public. It seems an endless exercise in futility.

Many apparently fear losing sight more than anything else.  My
colleagues have often stated that going blind scares them more
than aything else.  Guilt and discomfort in not knowing how to
relate plays a big part in how people react to us.  I
understand and agree with your frustration, it often seems
like an exercise in futility.
 IO> <grin> That's just one of many. My biggest fear is losing my
 IO> hearing. then I won't be able to listen to Monday night
 IO> football with Hank Stram and Jack Buck! See you.

That's not all you would lose, <grin>.  Seriously, losing my
sense of hearing scares me more than anything, with being
confined to a wheelchair coming in a close second.  I figure
we have a good deal being blind, but then, I guess I'm used to
it.  Regards, Les

Les Kriegler

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From: Derek.Juntunen@f950.n139.z1.fidonet.org (Derek Juntunen)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Survey
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:01:09 GMT
Reply-To: Derek.Juntunen@f950.n139.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:139/950 - Amiga BitSwap Centr, Houghton MI
X-Fidonet: Spinal Injury Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24825

[This is from the Spinal Injury Conference]

My sister is doing a paper for college on people with spinal
injuries.  I know you probrably hate these kind of questions (I do)
but please take the time to answer them.  Thanks alot!!

Do you feel you are less emotional now than the first year follow
the injury?

Do you feel you have noticed that your emotional excitability has
decreased since your injury?

What has benifitted you since your injury?

What is your injury level?

What was the date on which your injury occured?

What is your age?

THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!

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From: Stu.Turk@p2.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org (Stu Turk)
Newsgroups: misc.handicap
Subject: Relay Texas
Date: 14 Oct 92 15:50:05 GMT
Reply-To: Stu.Turk@p2.f26.n129.z1.fidonet.org
Organization: FidoNet node 1:129/26.2 - SoundingBoard, Pittsburgh PA
X-Fidonet: Silent Talk Conference
Originator: wtm@sheldev.shel.isc-br.com

Index Number: 24998

[This is from the Silent Talk Conference]

 AS> RA (Relay Agent) to identify whether they are female or male.

 AS> When the RA's take your call, they identify themselves using
 AS> their agent number with either a F or M beside the number.

  The PA Relay has been doing that for the past year; they type (m)
or (f) after their CA number (Communications Assistant).
  I made a Relay call a while ago to someone I was annoyed with and
asked the (f) CA if she wanted to switch me to a (m) because I might
get a bit sarcastic.  She said no, she didn't mind at all.  I think
she was a little disappointed when the person I was calling didn't
answer... :-)

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