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From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Humans as Physical Creatures.
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 11:53:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.171835.5640@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.135236.16647@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>
>|> According to the several hundred hours I spent sitting through
>|> various anthropology lectures during my undergrad days, humans, though
>|> primates, did NOT evolve from apes.  Humans, that is Cro-Magnons, evolved
>|> from other hominids, if I remember correctly.
>
>Humans are not Cro-Magnons, nor are they direct descendants of Cro-Magnon.
>Cro-Magnon was a "branch" that died out, possibly because their heads were
>too big for easy childbirth (well, it's a theory!). They did share many of
>the same evolutional developments that the human forebears had, but they were
>not direct ancestors.

I think you might be confusing Cro-Magnons with Neanderthals.  The latter
are a human subspecies that has been extinct for about 40,000 years.  It was
not because their heads were too big.  Their brains were indeed somewhat 
larger than ours, but they were also stockier.  It's still a matter of debate
as to why they became extinct.

Cro-Magnons were fully modern humans, and one could say that we're just
Cro-Magnons with car keys.  There are only slight anatomical differences,
e.g., their teeth were somewhat larger, but they painted pictures, carved
sculptures, and made tools that are not only functional but beautiful.

>|> Saying humans evolved from apes is like saying deer evolved from giraffes.
>|> No.
>
>Well, you're right, but I would wager that humans and apes share a closer 
>ancestor than deer and giraffes.

Nance meant modern apes, I'm sure.  However, you're right about humans and
apes being very closely related.  If I remember correctly, a sign at the
Cincinnati Zoo stated that humans are more closely related to bonobos than
dogs are to foxes.  I saw an interview with a researcher who had done some
of the first protein comparisions of human and chimp, and he said that he 
had become worried when the first half-dozen were identical; the next one 
had one difference, though.

-- Herb Huston
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: E.W. - Our system crashed and I've missed all the follow-ups : (
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:53:31 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

In <9879@kralizec.zeta.org.au> craig@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Craig Dewick) writes:

>ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:

>>I'm very distraught as our system crashed this weekend and all the
>>articles about Irish Spring and Moose, Wolf and Sex, etc.... are
>>gone, lost in the black void, never to return.....I have no idea
>>either what they said :-(

>>Let me know if I missed anything really unmissable!

>Hmmm. You missed heaps, but most of it was drivel (like most netnews!). Good to
>hear that you're still there, as your input to this newsgroup adds that little
>piece of magic to what can be such a difficult subject to discuss.

	Wow!  Have you only just got that posting now?  I posted that one
quite a while ago....still, thanks for the public fanmail!:)
I'm always receptive to flattery! (*GRIN*)
From: aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Humans as Physical Creatures.
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:50:44 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz wrote:
:[...] wouldn't it drive you crazy if you wanted to jog together
:or something like that and your partner just wanted to veg out?
: 
: 
:I know it'd drive me NUTS if a partner never wanted to sit down and watch the
:world go by from time to time.  
: 
: Rachel                           "Supergoof!"

I'm not sure I would like a partner who watched the world go by while
vegetating. Equally I would appreciate it if they buried their
nose in the book *purely* for the entertainment value without regard
to the quality of the contents as this is pure escapism avoiding
thought and above all the chance to be creative. Creative people are
much more attractive than vegetables!

		Aaron Turner 	aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re:      RE: Acceptance!
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 03:28:00 GMT

In article AA20927@inet-gw-1.pa.dec.com, GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu ("Broward " Bail Out " Horne") writes:
>From: loosemore-sandra@CS.YALE.EDU (Sandra Loosemore)
>Subject: Re: Acceptance!
>In-Reply-To: GCTHORNE@idbsu.idbsu.edu's message of Sat, 26 Sep 92 13: 17:02 MST
>Message-ID: <1992Sep26.211116.28257@cs.yale.edu>
>Sender: news@cs.yale.edu (Usenet News)
>
>>I seem to be managing to hang out on campus forever myself (without
>>even trying very hard!), and it's not all it's cracked up to be.  You
>>get old, the students stay eternally young, and you see all the people
>>your own age settling down with "real" jobs and getting married and
>>moving out into the suburbs.  It can be a pretty lonely life.
>
>>-Sandra the cynic
 
Well, I found that after being in the work force for four years, that way
of life was getting me into a deep rut. I reapplied to university just to
see if things were better on campus.

I quit my job, took out big loans, and here I am on campus again. I had
forgotten what I was missing. Lots of students are really young and I have
nothing in common with them. I am just about the only student in my fac-
ulty who already holds a degree. I find it hard to relate to younger
students, but that doesn't detract from the good times. I have managed to
meet people from all over the world who are closer to my age, and the 
second time around looks like it will be better than the first.

The younger students look at me like they would an older brother, and I
have the opportunity to help them out if they have troubles other than
academic ones. There are older ones who find themselves in my position.
I can relate to them. On campus there are many ideas floating around that
really get you to thinking. I was missing this in my job, and that's where
the rut came from I guess. I think studying is more of a "real" job than 
a real job. There's more challenge to it.

Try going to places you have never been to before. People need variety
to feel good. I believe that the whole thing behind "acceptance" is to
accept above all else yourself and stop comparing your lifestyle to those
of your friends. Your cynicism is digging your rut deeper, and that doesn't
feel good.

Andy.

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re: Understanding
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 06:05:17 GMT

In article 0mmZRB4w165w@waffle.sns.com, knute@waffle.sns.com (Thomas Knutson) writes:
>I understand how woeman tick...
>For example the other day I overheard this:
>He said: Honey I am really in the mood for sex.
>She said: That is all you MEN think about is sex...
>.......... you don't care what we think !!
>MORAL:  Get to know what is on her mind, before you state what is on your 
>mind.

Yes, but when you find out what's on her mind, doesn't it stop getting you to think about sex? I know lots of interesting women who have fascinating minds, but
they don't always care what WE think.

Brief Scenario (it's getting late and I'm hungry): I was in the pub last week with
this guy and two girls. The guy was a bit of a lush, but he was OK. Girl #1 is
tall, flat chested, and studious. Girl #2 is easy going, great body, fun attitude.
The lush had about a pint too many and flatly asked the girls what they thought
of sideways bananas(fellatio). The girls got into a conference mode huddle and
wasted five minutes. They turned to us and the tall one said, never tried it,
never will. THe other one said it's OK as long as it's clean.

MORAL: You can sometimes tell a book by it's cover.
MORAL: The intellectually interesting girl usually keeps Willie down.
MORAL: Women are more interesting if they can talk dirty, no matter how
       intellectually gifted/lacking they are.

That's why I like women from Europe, they usually don't use stupid excuses.

Andy.

PLEASE EXCUSE MY OBVIOUS IGNORANCE.
From: diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Open letter to Edward V. Wright
Date: 5 Oct 92 02:29:57 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Oct3.221301.7035@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>
>Trygve   (I might, however, be persuaded to write it longhand with my 
>          tongue--provided I had an appropriate writing surface.) 

Well, to half-borrow a line from 'Dangerous Liasons'- I'd *love* to do
some secretarial work for you.

			--Diamond (and does everyone out there know the
				   answer to "Why is a raven like
				   a writing desk?")




diamond@acpub.duke.edu |   Let your mind go and your body will follow.
Elizabeth S. Abrams    |
From: jmd@bear.com (Josh Diamond)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: E.W. - It's my birthday today!: )
Date: 25 Sep 92 16:33:34 GMT
Organization: Bear, Stearns & Co. - FAST
In-reply-to: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie's message of 24 Sep 92 11:00:47 GMT


In article <ewillims.717332447@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:

   I'm now the grand old age of 26, over a quarter of a century,
   aaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrrgggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!

Happy birthday to you!
Happy birthday to you!
Happy birthday dear Emma!
Happy birthday to you!

   At least I got loads of cool birthday presents!:)
   (and some aromatherapy massage oils!! I'll have fun with those!:)

Ooh -- those gifts that you can share with your snugglebunny are the
best!

Spidey!!!


--
 /\ \  / /\  Josh Diamond                                          jmd@bear.com
//\\ .. //\\ AKA Spidey!!!                        ...!ctr.columbia.edu!ursa!jmd
//\((  ))/\\
/  < `' >  \                                              Do whatever it takes.
From: wjb@moscom.com (Bill de Beaubien)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Ignorance
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:40:38 GMT
Reply-To: wjb@moscom.com
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.3 beta PL7]

Andreas  Tovornik (atovorni@engr.UVic.CA) wrote:
: Not so fast, Billy! Got one more...
: 
: Define MOTAS:
Been there, done that.

-- 
Who needs lime jello?  We had lasagna...
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bill de Beaubien / wjb@moscom.com
From: wjb@moscom.com (Bill de Beaubien)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Nice guys getting flamed (was Re:Relationship gone to pot?)
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:52:13 GMT
Reply-To: wjb@moscom.com
Distribution: na
Organization: Moscom Corp., Pittsford NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

james.j.dutton (jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com) wrote:
: P.S. Your response touched me deeply.

James, I always suspected you were deeply touched.
-- 
Who needs lime jello?  We had lasagna...
-------------------------------------------------------------
Bill de Beaubien / wjb@moscom.com 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: AVERNON1@ua1vm.ua.edu (Andrew Vernon)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,alt.romance,alt.romance.chat,talk.bizarre
Subject: Re: How long has it been?
Date: 6 Oct 92 19:23:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: ua1vm.16878CA76.AVERNON1
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa

In article <Bvpr7y.G4o@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton) writes:
 
>Oh, I get it.  Trying to trick people with that Followup-To bit again, huh?
>Well, it ain't gonna work this time, boyo.
 
Oh, are we hiding something from the group ;-)
That sounds like the symptoms of at least six months' deprivation.
 
-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=  A n d r e w   V e r n o n =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
                    Living Between the Lines....
                       Anything is possible...
                      And we're gonna prove it!
   Internet: AVERNON1@UA1VM.UA.EDU DGIF#9691 BITNET: AVERNON1@UA1VM
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:48:09 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <5683@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:

>Okay, Kiran, you've got my vote.  (Hi, by the way!  Where've you
>been?)  I've tried to post some reasonable stuff to Ed, to which he hasn't
>responded.  My conclusion is that he really isn't interested in 
>exploring issues, 

Oh? Really?  What do you call this if not a "response"?


********************
From soc.singles Wed Sep 30 13:41:32 1992
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright)
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated

In <5608@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:

>Ed, this brings to mind something I've been wanting to ask you.  
>Why do you like to read/post on soc.singles?  

First of all, some people consider it worthwhile to defend their
positions even if they're not likely to gain anything from it
personally or even convince anyone else that they're right.  To
quote Jefferson Smith, "Sometimes lost causes are the only ones
worth fighting for."

[26 lines deleted]
Do you spend all of your time "out there looking?"  Or do you
concentrate your efforts on those times when there's a reasonably 
probability of meeting someone?  
********************

Are you going to tell me you didn't see that response?  You not
only read it, you quoted from it in another article that you posted:

>>Do you spend all of your time "out there looking?"  Or do you
>>concentrate your efforts on those times when there's a reasonably 
>>probability of meeting someone?  

>No, I spend some of it in here looking. :-)  Seriously, no, I don't, but
>I'm not the one with the problem, so what I do isn't pertinent.  

And now you claim that I "never responded" to your post just
so that you can -- SLAM, BANG! -- get in another cheap shot:

>he really isn't interested in exploring issues, 

Rack up one for Liz Abrams on the old scoreboard!

In the same article, you said that you weren't about discussing
issues, only personalities:

>Secondly, as far as I can tell (note: this is
>a statement of my OPINION) right at the moment this discussion is not
>about an 'issue', it's about you personally.

And now you shed crocodile tears about my allegedly not 
wanting to discuss issues?

This is as good as Charlie Martin, the world's all-time misquoting
champion, accusing me of misquoting him.

>In fact, I don't think that 'correcting errors of fact' is even worth it.  

I agree.  The fact that you read one of my responses, *answered*
that response, and then immediately turned around and claimed
that I had never responded, just to buttress one of your personal
attacks, shows that you are not at all interested in facts.

>He's not capable of
>discriminating between facts, opinions, and attacks.

Well, we've seen what you're capable of.
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Open letter to Edward V. Wright
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:02:52 GMT
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of 30 Sep 92 17:07:01 GMT

Ed, Trygve has said everything that I really continue to want to say to
you, and better than I'd probably have done it.  (Well, as well as,
anyway. :-)
--
Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu/(ne crm@cs.duke.edu) 
O/Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
H/3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"I am he who walks the States with a barb'd tongue, questioning every
one I meet,/Who are you that wanted only to be told what you knew
before?/ Who are you that wanted only a book to join you in your
nonsense?"  _Leaves of Grass_ xxiii.4.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: Humans as Physical Creatures.
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 21:08:22 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.130636.17283@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.171835.5640@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct1.135236.16647@cbnewsd.cb.att.com>, nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>
>>|> According to the several hundred hours I spent sitting through
>>|> various anthropology lectures during my undergrad days, humans, though
>>|> primates, did NOT evolve from apes.  Humans, that is Cro-Magnons, evolved
>>|> from other hominids, if I remember correctly.
>>Humans are not Cro-Magnons, nor are they direct descendants of Cro-Magnon.
>>Cro-Magnon was a "branch" that died out, possibly because their heads were
>>too big for easy childbirth (well, it's a theory!). They did share many of
>>the same evolutional developments that the human forebears had, but they were
>>not direct ancestors.
>
>Hmmm, this doesn't exactly coincide with what I remember, but I haven't
>done any research lately and it's been a LONG time since college.  :-)
>Can anyone else offer something on this?

Yes (I did so in another article).  If your anthropology class was taught
more than about 10 years ago, much of the material is obsolete now, but
your comments were basically correct except that you should have specified
that humans are not descended from modern apes (they're "cousins.")

>>|> Saying humans evolved from apes is like saying deer evolved from giraffes.
>>Well, you're right, but I would wager that humans and apes share a closer 
>>ancestor than deer and giraffes.
>
>Don't wager too much.  Deer and giraffes are in the same basic phylum.

Well, humans, apes, deer, and giraffes along with fish, frogs, snakes,
and dodos are all in the same phylum, i.e., chordates (zoology should be
a pre-req for anthropology since the latter is a specialization within
the former).  However, I wouldn't wager against Jeff.

-- Herb Huston
From: brentaa@ac.dal.ca (brent, eh?)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: a new thread, see what you think....
Date: 1 Oct 92 17:51:20 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

hello guys and gals and other life forms!
I'm another newcomer to this busy little group, and I find it quite, 
well, interesting, to say the least...
here's a couple of new threads for ya...

	I have been experiencing an interesting, (and discouraging) trend
in my relationships.  Here's the scenario, I'm going out with a girl, and 
things seem to be going fine.  Not perfect, of course, but no major problems
that I'm aware of...
O.K., so here's where it gets screwy...the girl then goes on a little trip
for a couple of weeks or a month.  When she gets back, I get the feeling 
that something has changed, but I can't put my finger on it....  She proceedes
to string me along for a week or more, then comes up with the always
popular `lets just be friends' line.  

	I've talked to some of my friends about this, and some of them have
experienced the same phenomenon.  So what's the deal???  Whenever I go away, 
I always am looking forward to getting back and renewing the relationship.
Do women go through a different process?  Does this happen to other people?
have I been rambling on too long already?  Nah.....
	This scenario has happened to me three times, with slight variations, 
and I'm beginning to get paranoid about people I'm involved with going on
trips......
	None of the relationships were the `true love' kinda thing, and I 
didn't expect them to last forever, but a couple of them had a lot of potential,
and I certainly didn't expect them to end as soon as they did...
	I have a couple of theories about this...1. The women did a lot of
thinking about the relationship while away,(maybe too much..) and 
decided that it wasn't worth it, then couldn't bear to tell me when they got
back and saw how happy I was to see them, and so made it worse by stringing
me along.....2. Something happened on the trip that changed them, and made 
them less interested in the relationship.(I know this happened in one case, 
i.e. she met someone else while away, though I found this out much later...)
3. After not being in touch with the SO, the woman loses or forgets the 
closeness and other associated feelings that are a part of the relationship, 
and has a hard time reestablishing them when they get back....
	Ok, now I've done enough rambling on....I look forward to the 
threads that this one starts up....;-)


					-Brontosaurus Rex    (don't ask)

P.S.	For those of you interested in the new guy in the group, here's a 
little info....  I am an average guy, average looks(some people say `cute', 
but I hate that word!), slightly less than average height, above average
brains(at least I like to think so ;-)), and, of course, a Nice Guy[tm].
	oh, yes, and a ponytail too     ;-)
feel free to e-mail for more intimate details....
 


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA (Andreas  Tovornik)
Subject: Re:HEH,HEH
Reply-To: atovorni@engr.UVic.CA
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 04:04:48 GMT

   Tried to E-mail you on three separate occasions. Didn't work.
guess I'll reach you on the net, where the world can see it. I
unfortunately forgot your name (deleted the file by accident)
but I remember your message.

Andy.

IGNORANCE disclaimer applies.
From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Not sure.
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:15:25 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu's message of 30 Sep 92 18:53:27 GMT

In article <1act37INNmmv@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:

   I have 2 degrees, soon to have a third, taught myself Calculus in a
   couple evenings at 16, know several languages, have excellent
   artistic ability, am a highly lucid writer, calculate square roots in
   my head, read encyclopedias, dictionaries, yearbooks and history
   books simply for the enjoyment, constantly browse through the entire
   (reachible set of) contents of all the machines located at this node,
   exhaustively browse through entire sections of the library on
   frequent occasions, read machine binaries, and I'm currently working
   on 3 software consulting projects, 2 business projects, 2 class
   programming projects, 1 class paper, and 1 class report.

Eeek.  Now I feel inadequate.

   I love to lift weights, and much of the above first occurred or was greatly
   accentuated/accelerated after working out.

   So you're going to tell me that the mind atrophies? :)

Maybe I should lift more?

   (smashes that 100 word sentence barrier!)

Well, okay -- a list is kind of cheating, though.
--
Charles R. Martin/(Charlie)/martinc@cs.unc.edu/(ne crm@cs.duke.edu) 
O/Dept. of Computer Science/CB #3175 UNC-CH/Chapel Hill, NC 27599-3175
H/3611 University Dr #13M/Durham, NC 27707/(919) 419 1754
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"I am he who walks the States with a barb'd tongue, questioning every
one I meet,/Who are you that wanted only to be told what you knew
before?/ Who are you that wanted only a book to join you in your
nonsense?"  _Leaves of Grass_ xxiii.4.
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: men in their thirties who never dated
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 19:42:17 GMT

In article <aa+p3aj@lynx.unm.edu>, blowfish@carina.unm.edu (rON.) writes:
> In article <ewright.717696345@convex.convex.com> ewright@convex.com (Edward V. Wright) writes:
> look pretty decent. And while that appearance may never get Madonna into my
> bedroom you know what? My life will go on.
> r.
> 

Why do you say this?  You think Madonna cares about what men look like?
God, now I'm depressed.

Larry Billings


Newsgroups: soc.singles