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From:         Just DoE it 28-Jan-1993 0753 <ramirez@BIGQ.ENET.DEC.COM>
Subject:      Applied Statistics Conference - need info

Does anybody have information about the 1993 Second Applied Statistics
in Industry Conference? I saw an add in the Quality Progress calendar.
I tried calling the phone number listed in the add but all I get is the
voice mail.

I'll appreciate any information.

Thanks

Jose Ramirez
Semiconductor Operations
Digital Equipment Corporation
From: sdh@UICC.COM (sheldon haynie)
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Date: 26 Jan 93 17:00:42 GMT
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>>Hi, STAT-Lers!!!
>>
>>Can anyone give me a reference on this outlier test?
>>
>>Q = ABS(outlier - mean) / ABS(max - min)
>>
>>I haven't been able to find this in any ASTM procedure, QC book, or stat
>>book.  I suspect that it may be an "engineer's" formula but I thought I'd
>>check with the experts first.  TIA.
>>
>>Janet P. Buckingham
>>Southwest Research Institute
>>6220 Culebra
>>San Antonio, Texas 78228
>>210-522-2407
>>


I can't give a formal answer regarding your *Q* test...
but as an "engineer," who often deals with noisy data if would seem
like a typical statistical *abuse* by quantifying the spread of data
with outlier's vs without... Ideally you would want a low value of
Q (.5 in limit ?)

I have often pre-conditioned my data this way to avoid misinterpretation
due to instrumentation errors...
(signal to noise and all that.) Of course you need to not filter out
the signal when identifying "noise"





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From:         FOLGER@WATSON.BITNET
Subject:      moderated multiple regression

EASGERK@UBE.BITNET writes:

>I believe that since the interaction effect is the effect of interest I
>should test for this directly -- and use the full equation as the basis for
>describing the relationship.

If your predictions are for the interaction, there really isn't any need to
test the main effects at all (except perhaps as a matter of curiousity).
The real question, to my mind, is making sure you have shaped the
interaction to properly test the hypothesized relationship.  The shape won't
matter to the overall significance of the main effects and interaction
together, but it can make a giant difference to the test of the interaction
itself.

Davis

Snailmail..........................Davis A. Foulger
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Date:         Thu, 28 Jan 1993 15:23:00 EST
From:         Frank Dane <FDANE@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Price of textbooks

As somewhat of an insider (i.e. an author) I can provide some clarification
of the pricing differential between for-profit and not-for-profit
publishers and similar issues raised by Paul A. Thompson.

Some books are more expensive to print; generally, more graphics mean
greater printing expense.  Similarly, color adds to the cost of a
book.  However, I believe the major influence of the retail price of
a textbook is the expected number of copies sold.  greater volume
enables the publisher to set asmaller retail price.  Yet another factor,
but definitely less influential, is whether the author has a royalty
or one-time-payment arrangement; royalties result in higher retail
prices.

almotforgot,  textbooks tend to be slightly higher because the library
market for them is almost an empty set.  Professional books, however,
arelikelyto produce a sizablenumber of library sales, so their market
is, at times, larger than themarket for a textbook in an upper-division
undergrduate or a graduate course.

Dr. Francis C. Dane, Associate Professor and Chair
Department of Psychology, Mercer University
Macon, GA  31207-0001  USA
Bitnet: FDANE@UGA   Internet: FDANE@UGA.CC.UGA.EDU
Tel: (912) 752-2972
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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 14:09:48 -0500
From:         "N. Collins" <ncollins@CREDIT.ERIN.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      listserv commands

TELL LISTSERV AT MCGILL1 LIST GLOBAL /SAS
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From:         "R.A.Reese" <R.A.Reese@SEQ.HULL.AC.UK>
Subject:      Spreadsheet (file identification)

Since there are so mnay spreadsheet users on the net, can someone
please tell me what a file extension of .WD1 means?  A student had
been sent this file as "Lotus 123" but Lotus 2.2 said it was an old
format - and refused to read it. I've never seen a 123 that used a
format older that .WK1

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Date:         Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:30:54 -0500
From:         W_URBAN@UNHH.UNH.EDU
Subject:      t-test assumptions and SAS

    SAS tests the F ratio of the two samples and then computes t both
    ways so you can choose the unequal t if F is significant.

    Will@unh.edu
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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 16:34:00 EST
From:         KIRISCI@PITTVMS.BITNET
Subject:      correlation coefficients

I have two questionnaries:one has items with 7-point scale and the other one has
   items with 3-point scale. I wonder if anyone suggest me how to calculate
correlation coefficients between individual items whose have different scales.
What can be the best way? or do I need to make some transformations?
I am looking forward to reading your comments.
thank you.

Levent
Kirisci@Pittvms.Bitnet
From: ph@physiology.oxford.ac.uk (Patrick Haggard)
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Subject: terminology of proc glm; manova /canonical; output
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:38:47 GMT
Organization: Physiology Department, Oxford University, Oxford, UK.
Originator: ph@galen.physiol

Hello.  I've been using proc glm manova to compare data in two
conditions, and I want to look at the differences between the
conditions in terms of a canonical variate which optimally
discriminates between the two groups.  manova /canonical outputs
five sets of canonical variates, (total, between, within, standardized
and raw), and I'm not familiar with the terminology.  Which is the
actual canonical discriminant function, what is the standardized 
ne standardized to, and what is the meaning of the total one?  My
books on multivariate analysis seem to suggest there's just one,
not five!

Guidance much appreciated

Patrick

P.S.  Is it true that the SAS tech notes can be got by ftp?

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Subject:      WD1 spreadsheet extension.

No one has reported seeing this extension yet.  Thanks to several people for
comments not individually ack'ed.  The sender had specifically labelled it as
123 and I tried renaming it .WK1, but got an error message from inside 123
when it opened the file.

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From: jbuckingham%users%swri03@D26VS046A.CCF.SWRI.EDU
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Subject: Outlier Test
Date: 26 Jan 93 14:26:36 GMT
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Hi, STAT-Lers!!!

Can anyone give me a reference on this outlier test?

Q = ABS(outlier - mean) / ABS(max - min)

I haven't been able to find this in any ASTM procedure, QC book, or stat
book.  I suspect that it may be an "engineer's" formula but I thought I'd
check with the experts first.  TIA.

Janet P. Buckingham
Southwest Research Institute
6220 Culebra
San Antonio, Texas 78228
210-522-2407
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Date:         Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:38:13 EDT
From:         Alan Neustadtl <ALAN@BSS1.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Tobit analysis in SAS

    My thanks to all for the suggestion to use PROC LIFEREG.  I have
found the example and my graduate student is finishing his first run!

    Thanks again..

Best,
Alan

Alan Neustadtl
Department of Sociology
University of Maryland
College Park, MD  20742

ALAN@BSS1.UMD.EDU

301-405-6411
From: cotte@cs-acad-lan.Lakeheadu.Ca (Carol Otte)
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Subject: Support for SAS proposal
Summary: Support for SAS proposal
Keywords: SAS
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:57:16 GMT
Organization: Lakehead University


Our university is considering the purchase of SAS for a Unix system. Faculty 
have been requesting this package for a long time and have given several 
arguments about the power and validity of the algorithms used in the SAS 
statistical programs.

Can this be substantiated? If anyone could supply references to any articles 
which discuss the "strengths" of SAS and its value for original research, it 
would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,  Carol
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From:         e.j.craft@ASTON.AC.UK
Subject:      Proquest 4.0

Hi,

        and I thought we were the only ones having mameory problems with
the new software.
        We initially had version 3.26 of this software which was used only
for Inspec. When we had 3.3 a couple of months ago, we found that it ran
out of memory all the time. A call to UMI informaed us that 3.3 uses LESS
memory than 3.26 so we spent ages checking the rest of our system.
Eventually we PROVED that it uses a vital 34k MORE memory.
        Thanks a bunch, UMI.
        And now ABI has turned up with the new software and we can't run
that either.
        Does anyone have ANY suggestions re: getting more memory available.
The standard config of users' PCs is a 640k 88/286 ( we can live with slow
access as long as we have SOME access ).
        So far I'd give UMI's helpline 2 out of 10.

                                        Edward J Craft.


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From:         Peter Simmons Account <slais64@UNIXG.UBC.CA>
Subject:      minichangers

What do you think of minichangers/jukeboxes as opposed to lans?
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From:         YAEL GOLAN <RHSA640@HAIFAUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      RMENU

I STARTED EXPERIMENTING WITH THE SHAREWARE PROGRAM RMENU, AND FIND IT
QUITE O.K. IN GENERAL, BUT THERE IS A PROBLEM I DID NOT MANAGE TO SOLVE SO
FAR :  IN ONE OF THE OPTIONS OF ONE OF THE SUBMENUS THE PROGRAM KEEPS ASKING
FOR A PASSWORD OR F2 TO EDIT. IF EDITING IS MADE TO "NO PASSWORD" MYSTERIOUS
UNERASABLE CHARACTERS APPEAR ON THE OPTION LINE. THE OPTION NAME CANNOT THEN
BE CHANGED TO MAKE THEM DISAPPEAR. IF EDITING IS NOT DONE, THE PROGRAM KEEPS
ASKING FOR A PASSWORD, AND THOUGH IT ACCEPTS AN ENTER TO OVERRIDE, IT STILL
LEAVES THE CHOICE OF THIS SINGLE OPTION WITH TWO ENTERS INSTEAD OF THE USUALLY
SUFFICIENT SINGLE ENTER. (ACTUALLY, THE TEXT OF THE PASSWORD PROMPT CAN BE
PAINTED TO BE UNREADABLE, BUT THE NEED FOR TWICE ENTER ON A SINGLE OPTION IS
ANNOYING.
BESIDES, IN THE DOCUMENTATION ONLY A CONVENTIONAL MAIL ADDRESS IS GIVEN. DOES
ANYONE KNOW OF AN ELECTRONIC MAIL OR FAX ADDRESS OF JOSEPH H. MOHR, SO AS TO
HAVE A CHANCE OF RECEIVING AN ANSWER IN REASONABLE TIME ?

YAEL GOLAN
LIBRARY, UNIVERSITY OF HAIFA
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Subject: adding a third tower to cd-connection
Summary: is there a drop in performance in adding a third tower?
Keywords: cd-connection, tower
Organization: Universite du Quebec a Montreal.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:39:47 GMT

We have a cd-connection installation consisting of two towers.
We plan to add a third tower.  Has anybody with a three towers installation
experienced a drop in performance whith the addition of the third tower, or 
is it running smooth?
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Subject:      minichangers

Any comments about minichangers/jukeboxes? Advantages/ disadvantages
over LANS. Any preference for a particular brand?
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From:         Gess Shankar <gess@KNEX.VIA.MIND.ORG>
Subject: Re: adding more than 42 cd drives

emory!GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU!solrccc writes:

> I currently have a 42 cd rom drive system, Novell 3.11, two 486i
> processors, SCSI Express.  I'd like to add more drives to the system.  I
> understand that I can get a few more, but would need a third server if I
> plan on 20 more drives.
>
> Is there a better way than managing three servers each with 21+ drives?  I
> certainly don't want to scrap what I have, it's only 9 months old!  But I'm
> wondering if I have to buy a new server if I should be looking at a system
> that would allow for future qrowth.
>
> Thank you for any suggestions and responses.

I have seen ads for a product called GIGARAK, which supports up to 98
drives in one rack in less than 5 sq ft of floor space.

I have no further info other than the ad. The company in question is:
Morton Management Inc., 12079 Tech Road, Silver Spring, MD 20904
(301) 622-5600.

Are there any users of this product who can inform us? The company
advertises regularly in CDRom Professional magazine.

GeSS
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From:         Frank Pearsall 855-8179 <PEARSALL@UCS.INDIANA.EDU>
Subject:      RE: Proquest 4.0 Searchware

Arne Almquist writes:

> We have noticed similar things with the current version of ProQuest
> (2.42).  If a number of users are simultaneously searching a given
> UMI database, we end up with memory problems at the CBIS CD-Server.
> Under most circumstances, the server console gives a series of
> "Insufficient memory for user file", and if the load then drops (on
> the UMI product), the server goes back to normal.  If the condition
> persists for some time, it is possible to bring the server to a
> screeching halt.  We load QEMM at the server and have regularly had
> this condition cause fatal QEMM errors as well....

We were having similar problems.  We also tried QEMM and that delayed the onset
of the problem, but didn't cure it.  According to CBIS (Chris Hill) the
problem as to do with the way CD-Connection uses DOS memory.

Our solution is to reset (Cold Boot) the CBIS towers every morning before the
Libraries open.   Since the hours of operation for our CD-ROM Network are the
same as Library hours,no users are inconvenienced when we reboot.

We have not encountered memory problems with UMI products since we started
this proceedure on November 11th.

Our tests of Version 4.0 showed that it didn't recognise back files (4 disks of
a 5 disk set) of Dissertation Abstracts.  After a quick phone call, UMI
promises to send the back file disks.


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From:         "Joel Cohen@Computer Center" <COHEN@CANISIUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Networking PC, Mac and Unix

>
>>1 Use an optical server that is compatible with Novell. Install the
>>Macintosh and NFS gateway modules on a Novell server. My hope is that
>>any CDs on the optical server would appear as part of the Novell server
>>filestore so that PCs could access PC CDs using Novell file sharing,
>>Macintoshes could access Apple CDs using system 7 file sharing, Unix
>>workstations could access suitable CDs using NFS.
>
>This solution currently exists with SCSI Express for NetWare from Micro
>Design.
>Besides DOS, MAC,, and UNIX CD-ROM clients you can also have OS/2 users
>access the CD-ROMS on the Novell Fileserver.  For more information check
>out the January 11, 1993 issue of LAN TIMES.
>

Assuming the information can be read from the different operating
systems, what about the search software which is going to do it? Is it
available separately from the database products for major publishers
such as Grolliers, Silver Platter, Wilson, etc?
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From:         Bill Wilson <wilson@CONVEX.CSD.UWM.EDU>
Subject:      Discussion posting

We would like to know if anyone has tried using EBSCO's Magazine Articles
 Summary full-text on a Pioneer multi-drive along with other CD-ROMs.  We had
 read that there might be problems,...Send replies to:
 wilson@convex.csd.uwm.edu
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From:         "Lewis M. Dreblow" <DREBLOW@VAX.CNS.MUSKINGUM.EDU>
Subject:      Using a Sun Sparc 2 as a NSF mountable CD Server.

Well folks, I've been listening in for several months now and have yet
to see anything about using NFS as a mechanism for delivery of mounted
CD platters.  Is anyone doing this or am I simply suggesting something
that can't be done?

Basically, I have a Sun Sparc 2 serving as a file server on my TCP/IP
network.  It has a CD player and has been successfully tested to deliver
mounted volumes to desktop equipment (PC's and Mac's).  I am interested
in whether I can attach a CD stack to this machine and deliver multiple
CD platters to campus users.  I understand that there are licensing issues
that need to be addressed when networking CD volumes.  I am only interested
in exploring the hardware components and issues.

Feedback?

Lewis Dreblow, Director of Computer and Network Services,
Muskingum College, New Concord, OH, 43762

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From:         georger@KEAN.UCS.MUN.CA
Subject:      Re. Everywhere Access

>We're looking at Everywhere Access as a way to give users access to our
>Novell Server's CD products.  We would like to hear pros and cons from
>anyone with experience with this product.

  I have been using Everywhere Access for about a month in production mode.
It runs quite well as a way to permit network access to DOS cd-roms from
any VT-100 compatible terminal/workstation.  There are a few small things
like greater control over customizing the help screen and disabling certain
functions which I would like to be able to do.  They haven't been
significant enough concerns to lessen the value of the software.

  I hear that the multi-user OS/2 version beta software is due out quite
soon.

Drop me a note if you would like to hear more about our experiences with
the package.

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>From: Greg Bruno <gregb@amazon.sandiegoca.ncr.com>
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From:         gregb@AMAZON.SANDIEGO.NCR.COM

> Dave Bloomberg writes:
>
> It has been our experience that most of our PC's have been solid
> performers for 4-5 years w/o incident.  When things go bad, it
> has been mostly hard drives; and chips on the highly integrated
> motherboards that require outside service.

I just read an article that says after about 5 years the battery that runs
CMOS RAM dies. Some symptoms are faulty hard disks. So all you have to do
is replace the battery, reset the configuration and you're back in business.
I've never done this before, but it sounds like something to try before you
spend big dollars sending the PC outside for service.

Greg Bruno
gregb@amazon.sandiego.ncr.com
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