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From: gcarter!gcarter (George Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Re: Do Kevlar tires work?
Keywords: kevlar
Date: Thu, 08 Oct 92 22:17:07 PDT
Distribution: world
Organization: SFBAC

I have put a lot (10,000 miles plus) on both non-Kevlar and Kevlar
belted tires (all on the same brand, Specialized).  For me, there is 
a dramatic reduction in flat tires with the Kevlar-belted variety.
Most of my few remaining flats are thorns.  I have never had a 
snakebite, perhaps because I pump the tires up to 125 lbs before 
every ride.

As I noted a few months ago, my view is that this product is the
best innovation in bicycling in the past decade.  Before Kevlar tires
I can remember fixing two flats during a single one day ride on 
occassion.  I flat maybe once every thousand miles now.

One new product that does not work well is the "mini-pump."  This 
product will die quickly in the marketplace if people actually use
these devices and find out the aggravation of pumping forever to 
inflate a tire.
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:23026 rec.bicycles.misc:803 rec.bicycles.soc:489
From: gary@igor.tamri.com (Gary Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.soc
Subject: Encouraging Commuting by Bike (Was: Re: DO YOU shower after a commute?)
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:05:47 GMT
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.soc
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

In article <1992Oct3.040353.2443@medtron.medtronic.com> bb11807@thug (Brian A. Blow) writes:
>And just to let you know that there really are companies that care about
>commuters, Medtronic (pacemakers 'R us) has an incentive program for
>commuters.  I carry a little punchcard with 25 squares on it.  Every time
>I commute in, the security guard punches it.  Every 5 punches and I get
>a free lunch ticket.  When all 25 are punched, I turn it in for a $10
>gift certificate at a local bike shop.
>
>Mention this to your employer; you might be surprised how willing they
>may be to provide an incentive.  It really doesn't cost the company that
>much.
>
I mentioned this to my employer this morning after reading this post.  
They are currently looking at ways to encourage employees to find
alternative ways to get to work (that is, alternatives to the auto).

Does anyone have any other suggestions that I could pass along here?
Please post or email to me at gary@igor.tamri.com.  I'll provide a summary
in about a week.

thanks,

gary
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Gary Schwartz					gary@igor.tamri.com
Toshiba America MRI, Inc.		
280 Utah Ave					phone:	(415) 875-3483	
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: pem@systemname.uucp (Paul Maybaum)
Subject: Re: bike lights
Originator: pem@
Organization: Motorola Computer Group Marketing
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 19:40:14 GMT


I use the Night Sun unit for commuting and absolutely swear by it!.  However,
instead of a handlebar mount, I made a helmet mount using a couple of velcro
strips.  This allows me to put the light exactly where I need it.  On the 30w
setting, I can light up the inside of a car from 75-100 ft away.   This allows
me to "warn" people entering from side roads of my approach.  Likewise, if I
see an overtaking car in my rear view mirror, a quick turn of my head puts the
beam in the lane.  This increases my visibility and usually increases the
clearance as the auto goes by.  I like being able to aim the light forward, when
I'm traveling 20+mph, and still be able to look down and see the road trash.

I really don't notice the weight and the velcro holds the unit securely.  I 
have survived encounters with overhanging trees without losing the light.  I
carry the battery in a fanny pack, so I have no problems with cord length or
restrictions.  

I justified the $200 cost not by looking at it as a bicycle accessory, but by
thinking about my alternative commuting cost (gasoline).  I figured if I could
extend the season by a month at each end, the unit would pay for itself in a
year.  Now that I live in Arizona, the unit allows year-round bicycling.  The
benefits of increased visibility were a bonus, but are no less important.  How
much is your keister worth?
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:23081 rec.bicycles.soc:530 rec.bicycles.misc:846 rec.bicycles.rides:265
From: dbrus.Unify.Com.jenny@unify.uucp (Jennifer Zheng)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.soc,rec.bicycles.misc,rec.bicycles.rides
Subject: Trains & permits
Date: 9 Oct 92 20:04:50 GMT
Reply-To: dbrus.Unify.Com.jenny@unify.uucp (Jennifer Zheng)
Distribution: ca
Organization: Unify Corporation, Sacramento, CA, USA


The 800 number someone posted to call CalTrain's bike permit doesn't
work from outside the Bay area.  How can a visiting bike tourist board
CalTrain?

Relatedly, what public transportation (buses, trains) systems take
bikes?  What's the cost and disassembling involved?

TIA!

jen
									    //
B. Jennifer Zheng,	916-649-3576	         ----  _~o      ~o 	  //
jenny@unify.com,	2/14 down, 28/6 to go! -----  `\<,      <|\	//
Ride Bike.		                         ---- O/ O      / >   //
From: ecc@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Ed Cirimele)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:54:13 GMT
Subject: SIRRA TO THE SEA '93
Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles

Note: This is being posted for a friend. For all inquries
      se below.


                     SIERRA TO THE SEA '93

Sierra   to   the  Sea  is  a  scenic  and  challenging  7-day
bicycle/camping tour, from Northern California's Gold  Country
to San Francisco's Golden Gate.

It begins in the historic Mother Load Country on June 19th and
will visit our state  capitol,  Sacramento  Valley,  the  Napa
Valley,  the  Russian  River,  the  Sanoma  Coast,  and  after
crossing the Golden Gate Bridge, will finish in San  Francisco
on June 29th.

Sponsored   by   Almaden  Cycle  Touring  Club  in  San  Jose,
California. This will be the sixth year  for  this  non-profit
cross state adventure.

Approximately  425 miles long, the tour will average around 60
miles a day.  The  route  is  challenging  and  designed  with
experienced riders in mind.

The  cost is $285 and includes transportation from San Jose to
the start of the ride in Columbia and from  San  Francisco  to
San  Jose  at  the end of the tour, plus all camping fees, six
dinners and two breakfasts, sag support, gear  transportation,
a souvenir water bottle and a T-shirt.

The  tour is limited to 100 cyclists. Entries will be excepted
on a first-come, first-served basis.

        For a brochure and registration form call:
                         408/629-2852
        or write to:
                      Sierra to the Sea
                       483 Madison Drive
                  San Jose, California 95123
           1993 brochures will be mailed in January
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: becky@humboldt.kent.edu (Becky Roethlisberger)
Subject: Path: humboldt.kent.edu!becky
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 07:45:39 GMT

******I'm looking for touring ideas in the Northern Great Lakes Area******

I work for a Girl Scout Camp in Northern Michigan leading teenagers on two
and three week bike trips.  We carry all of our own gear, do our own repairs
and are self-sufficient for the duration of the trips.  We're looking for a new
and challenging route - about a three week trip, averaging 60 to 80 miles per 
day (a day or two greater is no big deal).  We currently tour from Traverse
City, Michigan through the Door Peninsula of Wisconsin and back (via Ferry 
service out of Ludington/Manitowoc).  We have also gone out of Traverse City, 
across the Straits of Mackinaw, into the Upper Peninsula and followed the 
Mackinaw Trail eastward.  

The kids like to "end up" some place, or have a theme to the trip.  If you
have any experience in this region, please let me know what's fun and what's not.

Also, were looking for sponsorship, grant possibilities, . . . to make the 
program accessible to more girls.  If you've heard of anything that might help 
us out, please pass the information along my way.

Thanks, 
Becky Roethlisberger
becky@humboldt.kent.edu
From: millere@frith.msu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: bolts that stay on.
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:17:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Michigan State University, College of Engineering
Originator: millere@frith.egr.msu.edu

I have a problem that it quite vexing. When I mount hardware on
my bike it seems impossible to keep the nut and bolt combinations
from jiggling loose, no matter how tight. Lock nuts don's seem to
help either. Does anyone have a solution that can last between 
Michigan's harsh season changes?
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: arnie@col.hp.com (Arnie Berger)
Subject: Re: More tandem purchase advice needed
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:06:41 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

gt9045a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian Minsk) writes:

> The main problem is that the Burley is a mountain tandem 
> while we would prefer a road tandem.  I can't deny that the Santana would be
> our first choice barring the price difference.
> 
> We don't plan to use our tandem for racing - just touring.
> 
> So, again, I'd like to ask if this is a good buy.  Is there much difference 
> using a mountain tandem on the road vs. a road tandem (our impression from
> our short rides on each is that there is a significant difference)?  What
> about the relative merits of the Burley vs. the Santana outside of the
> obvious things such as componentry, price difference, etc.?
> 


We have a mountain tandem. Most of the time it has high pressure "road"
tires on it. Occasionally, we take it off-road. It is very nice to have
the flexibility. Also, we have taken it to Europe on two tours and always
found places to ride where the road surface was less than adequate for
skinny, high-pressure tires. Once, in England, we rode to Stonehenge on
a hiking trail to avoid the busy roads that are the normal access. In
Holland, we rode down the west coast, along the North Sea, through some
lovely forest paths. Also, there was always sand on the paths along the 
ocean.

I would suggest that if you buy a mountain tandem that you add something
like "Onza Bars" to give you different places to put your hands.

When we were first considering a tandem my wife was insistent that we get
a bike that we could safely "bail out" with onto the shoulder of a road,
for example. That's why we bought the mountain tandem. The rest was an
added benefit.

                                                        Arnie
  
-- 
Arnie Berger
arnie@col.hp.com
Telnet 719-590-5642
From: dean@pico.qpsx.oz.au (Dean Economou)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Encouraging Commuting by Bike
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:07:32 GMT
Organization: QPSX Communications LTD, Perth, Western Australia.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Our company made two moves to help out cyclists.  One of the toilet
stalls was converted to a shower, and we were given keys to a storeroom
in the carpark so the bikes could be looked up.

The government around here has been spending quite a lot on bike-paths,
and you can now get most places in the inner city by bike-path.

Cheers,
Dean.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Do Kevlar tires work?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:09:07 GMT

MEDELMA@cms.cc.wayne.edu (Michael Edelman) writes:
>>One new product that does not work well is the "mini-pump."  This
>>product will die quickly in the marketplace if people actually use
>>these devices and find out the aggravation of pumping forever to
>>inflate a tire.
>Agreed. Look at the review article in the new Bicycling. 200+ strokes
>to get a 700x25 tire to 100psi? 450+ strokes for a 26" tire? I could
>walk home faster...        --mike
Yeah, I just put one of these in the saddle bag on my road bike but read the
article and decided to put my Zefal frame pump back on.  I need it for 
playing "puppy polo" anyway.
-Terry
From: jeffd@hls.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Looking for Trailer!!
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:32:46 GMT

Readers,

	I am lookng for a Burley D'Lite or Winchester trailer.  I have an 19
month old son and am hoping to tow him in it.  I can be reached at
(408)925-2634 or Email to Jeffd@hls.com.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: harold@cs.uq.oz.au (Andrew Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles,rec.bicycles.soc
Subject: Re: bike locks
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:33:01 GMT
Reply-To: harold@cs.uq.oz.au
Followup-To: rec.bicycles

In <1992Oct6.223413.15042@bitrot.in-berlin.de> thomas@bitrot.in-berlin.de (Thomas Driemeyer) writes:

>I am using a motorcycle cable lock made by Abus, and sold in bike stores
>here. It consists of an 8mm one-meter cable with a massive chain of
>interlocking steel rings around it. The theory is that you have to break
>through the steel to get at the cable, which requires a different tool.
>With the transparent plastic coating, it looks like something straight
>out of a Batman movie.

Ah, so that's what those are called! 
I was in Amsterdam over the summer and every second bicycle (slight 
exageration :-) seemed to be locked up with something that fits your 
description. These chains certainly look nontrivial to break.

>Thomas

Andrew
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: sharonl@sco.COM (B. Baggins, at your service.)
Subject: Cyclocross Season!
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Distribution: ca
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 18:49:16 GMT
Keywords: surf city cyclocross


                     1992 Surf City Cyclocross Schedule

             (All locations are in the greater Santa Cruz area)

October 10th    Cyclocross Clinic

        24th    Scott Creek (Big Creek Lumber property)
        25th    Lumber Mill (          ditto          )

November 7th    Last Chance (          ditto          )
         8th    Monterey Bay Academy (new course!)

        21st    National Guard Armory
        22nd    Boy Scout Course (ajacent to the Armory)

December 5th    UCSC
         6th    UCSC


For more information call Velo Promo at (408) 464-2524

(you can also reply to this account and I'll pass inqueries along 
 to the promotors)

-- 
This is just another example of how the healthy gum tissue of our
liberty is being eaten away by the periodontal disease of government
regulation.  --Dave Barry
From: mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matt Ross)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Haro Omega ?
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:48:47 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


 I am about to buy a Haro Omega hybrid.  Any input on why not to buy would
be great.  I haven't laid any cash down yet, so if there is something I need
to knwo , let me.

Thanks in advance.

Matt
mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu

-- 
Matt Ross
mrss_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
What ever you do, take care of your shoes.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: bschwart@ferris.cray.com (Robert J. Schwartz)
Subject: Re: Schwinn files for Chapter 11 protection
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: 9 Oct 92 08:48:39 CDT

More Schwinn gossip.

I was talking to the proprietor of the local bike shop about Schwinn's 
financial difficulties a couple of months ago. He had a couple of comments.

- Remember the quote about Kaypro, too many Kays, not enough pros. Well, he
  seemed to feel Schwinn had too many Schwinns.

- The Mississippi plant had quality problems. He was glad to see it close.
  He said they allowed about a half hour more to set up a Mississippi bike
  as opposed to a foreign bike. The frame quality was OK but it was very
  common to see cables cut to the wrong length for example. Schwinn lost a lot
  of money on that plant.

Bob Schwartz
bschwart@cray.com
From: STAN@VM.TEMPLE.EDU (Stan Horwitz)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Europe tour
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:19:20 GMT
Organization: Temple University - Computer Services

Hello fellow bikers;

I am planning to take a trip from home (in Philadelphia) to Europe this summer.
My goal is to see maybe 4 or 5 major cities within about 3 weeks time. I intend
to start out near London, England where a cousine lives, make my way to Paris
then to Caan where I want to meet some of those pretty French ladies on the
beach. Hopefully, I will have time to see a city or two in Intaly and Germany.
What I want to know is if bike rentals are available in some of these cities. I
do not want to spend time biking from one city to another because I only can do
about 10MPH which is too slow to get anywhere far in a reasonable amount of
time. I would love to ride around Paris and London on a bike. Does anyone have
any experience doing this? Will I be risking my life like I would were I to
ride my bike around down town Phily? What kind of bikes can one rent in Europe
and how much do they cost to rent?
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: whalen@starch.enet.dec.com (Rich Whalen)
Subject: Re: Schwinn files for Chapter 11 protection
Reply-To: whalen@starch.enet.dec.com (Rich Whalen)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Shrewsbury, MA
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 12:19:24 GMT


In article <BvtLxG.ILA@Novell.COM>, kbest@doc.novell.com (Karl Best) writes:
|>Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
|>From: kbest@doc.novell.com (Karl Best)
|>Subject: Re: Schwinn files for Chapter 11 protection
|>Organization: Novell, Inc.
|>Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:51:15 GMT
|>
|>In article <9943@pyrdc.UUCP> mike@pyrdc.UUCP (Mike Whitman) writes:
|>> The subject says it all. I heard this on the local news at 2:00 pm est in
|>> the Washington DC area. They also mentioned a merger but didn't say who
|>it
|>                                              ^^^^^^^^
|>
|>Prob'ly Huffy or Murray :-(
|>
|>--
|>Karl Best                              Far away, across the field
|>Novell Tech Pubs           ...  __o    the tolling of the iron bell
|>Provo, Utah  801-429-3428 ..   -\<,    draws the faithful to their knees
|>kbest@doc.novell.com      ...(_)/(_).  to hear the softly spoken magic
|>spell
|>karl_best@novell.com                      -Roger Waters, Pink Floyd
|>

The news story that I heard this morning (on NPR) said that they were still
looking for a partner.  The story did comment that Schwinn had fallen on hard
times because they hadn't kept up with Huffy and Murray.  Huffy and Murray do
well because they sell their product in department stores, whereas Schwinn
depends upon its dealer network.  Schwinn feels that it provides better
service to its customers this way, but it has lost market share.
------------------------------------------------------
Rich Whalen

You don't know where these bits have been!
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: hesse@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (BJ Cameron - DCS)
Subject: info on bike rack for nissan pathfinder needed
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:51:25 GMT


I need recommendations on bike racks for a Nissan Pathfinder (1993 if
that matters).  I am interested in both roof style and rear tire style.
Info on how much weight (how many bikes) they can carry would also be
appreciated along with the price.
Thanks... 
Bri
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel)
Subject: Re: Schwinn Chapter 11
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 13:51:42 GMT

What interests me is the effect this will have on the US bike market.  I mean
it is entirely possible that Schwinn will not find a partner and will go
under completely.  I was talking to a lcoal dealer the other day about this
and said "Well it shouldn't affect you since you don't sell Schwinns" and
he said "Yeah but we're wondering what XXXX will do if they lose the Schwinn
line,what willl they replace them with?".  My advice?  Buy Bridgestone!
-Terry
Bridgestone fanatic
From: jackson@ponder.csci.unt.edu (Bruce Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Center-line rule
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:11:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: mercury.1992Oct16.041126.936
Organization: University of North Texas, Denton

In article <1992Oct15.170804.18190@ncs.com> dick@ncs.com writes:

>I've raced bicycles for several years , and I have seen several races
>where cyclists spread out into the oncoming lane of traffic.  This is 
>of course very dangerous, illegal, and against USCF rules.  I think
>it is up to USCF officials to crack down on this sort of behavior.  

I remember one road race I was in where the start/finish was located
after a several hundred yard downhill and a 100 yard uphill.  I was in
a breakaway group of 4 as we were cresting the hill leading to the
finish line.  There was a strong wind from the right so we were in a
natrual right to left eschelon.  Nobody wanted to lead this sprint out
so we all slowed down and started watching each other.  Even though I
was almost stoped the other riders started to line up to the left of
my wheel.  Since I didn't want them to get any draft I moved to the
center-line so they would be forced to ride behind me and miss the
draft.  Well they just rode in the left hand lane.  I moved over and
they moved over.  I reached the left edge of the left lane and
everyone was lined up behind me.  We were all riding our brakes down
the hill on the left edge of the wrong lane (no sholder except
gravel).  I finally decided that I needed to make someone else lead it
out and came to a stop.  All 4 of us were sitting doing track stands
on the left edge of the road.  We had a good 5 min. on the pack and
nobody wanted to lead the sprint out so we all decided to wait to see
who couldn't hold their track stand as long as everyone else.
Unfortuantely that turned out to be me so I started rolling down the
hill again.  By now we were in full sight of the officials and the few
spectators so I thought that we may end up being dq'ed since the
officials promised that the center-line rule would be enforced.
Finally someone behind me exploded and we all went into a frenzy.  I
ended up 4th in that sprint but this was one of the more interesting
races I was in anyway.

Bruce  -  jackson@cs.unt.edu
From: gt6493c@prism.gatech.EDU (gt6493c FLUHR,ERIC J)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Elevated chainstay MTBs
Summary: opinions??
Date: 12 Oct 92 17:46:35 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology


I posted this before in another group, but got no answers, so I'm
trying it in this group.
I want to know opinions on elevated chainstay bikes.  For instance,
how they compare in terms of strength, handling, or anything else
you can think of.
I just recently purchased a 21.5" Haro Extreme for $500.  It has 
Deore LX straight through.  Any opinions on the Extreme?

Thanks,
Eric
-- 
Fluhr, Eric J.                           Georgia Institute of Technology
Awesome, Underrated, Developed in Ingolstadt:  Audi, the #1 imported
German car.  Better than a cold Becks, even.
From: qpliu@phoenix.princeton.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: motorists
Date: 8 Oct 92 22:24:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Oct8.222452.26096
Reply-To: qpliu@princeton.edu
Followup-To: rec.bicycles.soc
Distribution: na
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <8OCT199216121832@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:
>Due to the inherent *lack* of acceleration and speed capabilites of most 
>bicycles and riders, putting them on the same road as cars and *expecting* 
>motorists to accept delays and frustration because `we have a right to be 
>on the road too' is optimistic at best.
 [...]
>          Also, a *minor* infraction is much more likely to cost a cyclist 
>his/her *life*, ergo you'd think they would have a vested interest in 
>proper road etiquette.

Such arguments sound like threats.

A similar argument heard yesterday, though more related to the first
part of the citation than to road etiquette, went something like this:

  "*You* *git* yer *butt* off the *road*!"

  Why?

  "*Baacycles* don't belong on the *haaway*!"

  What law says that?

  "You'll git run over..."

  (Was that a threat?)
-- 
qpliu@princeton.edu           Standard opinion: Opinions are delta-correlated.