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From: yiannis@wam.umd.edu (IOANNIS VELISSARAKOS  ATHINA-HELLAS)
Subject: Re: Independent Slavo-Macedonia
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 13:25:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.010616.53969@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> dk0a@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DIMITRIOS KOUVATSOS) writes:
>In article <1992Aug20.055627.28891@wam.umd.edu>, yiannis@wam.umd.edu (IOANNIS VE
>LISSARAKOS  ATHINA-HELLAS) writes:
>
>>       Nai twra arxiste kai tous tsakwmous kai na deite poso
>>0a stenaxwreisetai tous filous mas tous skopianous...:((
>>       Makrakh mia erwthsh. Poies 0eseis yposthrizeis;
>>
>>yiannis
>
>Nai, swthikes twra. O Makrakhs exei ellhniko onoma. Den exei tipote allo
>ellhniko mesa tou, kai den dinei dyara pisteuw kai an akoma h Ellada exane
>pote th Makedonia kai th Thrakh kai gyrize sta synora tou 1912, h kai an akoma
>epaue na yparxei.
>
>Kammia diathesh gia flames kai oute prokeitai na asxolhthw me auto to atomo,
>apla thn entypwsh mou lew.
>
>-- 
>------------------------    "This is the greatest planet on the face of
>+= Dimitris Kouvatsos *=     the earth"
><dk0a@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
>------------------------           -- Vice President J. Danforth Quayle

 	E, kala ayto file Dhmhtrh nomizw oti einai emfanestato!!!! Milw gia  
      tous ypoloipous omws. Kai toulaxiston as mhn apantoume sta Agglika... :((

Xairetw,
yiannis
From: karakoli@Odysseus.vax.Oxford.ac.UK (Dimitris Karakolis)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Mutlu, I have something to tell you, and that is ...
Date: 13 Aug 92 19:59:59 GMT
Organization: University of Oxford VAX cluster .


    ...QA SOU KATEBASW ENAN KOUBA SKATA STHN MAPA , TOURKOMOUNOPANO !

    dIMITRIS kARAKOLIS
    l
Xref: sparky soc.culture.greek:7530 soc.culture.yugoslavia:7960
From: THEO@licra.dn.mu.oz.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: Re: OBEDINATA MAKEDONIJA.(Zito! n Makedonia)
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:28:05 GMT
Organization: Ludwig Institute for Cancer Research

In article <1992Aug13.194522.1@wombat.newcastle.edu.au>, c8826859@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (THE MACEDONIAN STATE-------->IS INEVITABLE) writes:
> MAKEDONIJA  =  VARDARSKA MAKEDONIJA + PIRINSKA MAKEDONIJA + EGEJSKA MAKEDONIJA
> 
> 
>           MACEDONIA IS ON FULL STEAM AHEAD TO BE RECOGNISED BY THE WORLD 
> 
>      AND GREECE AS WELL.
> 
>      MAKEDONIJA ON PETROVDEN(A MACEDONIAN DAY) HELD A WORLD WIDE DEMONSTRATION
>   AGAINST GREEK PROPAGANDA .IN AUSTRALIA DEMONSTRATIONS WERE HELD IN EVERY 
>   CITY IN AUSTRALIA WHICH SUM TO A TOTAL OF 143,000 PEOPLE WHICH IS THE 
                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^        
The Australian Yearbook 1990 - Demography - 43,100 people declare that they 
speak the Macedonian language - fantasise on... The yearbook is available 
in most libraries in Australia. Seems like you are 100,000 off the mark Max
.
>   PROPER ESTIMATE.NOW I WANT A GREEK TO TELL ME HOW CAN THERE NOT BE 
>   MACEDONIANS, WHO ARE WILLING TO DIE FOR THERE HOMELAND IN MAKEDONIJA.
>      GREEKS A UNITED MACEDONIA EXISTED FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS BEFORE
>    1913   AND WILL EXIST IN THE NEAR FUTURE.GREEKS IF YOU WANT TO RENAME AGEAN
>   MACEDONIA , MACEDONIA IN YOUR BOOKS AND NOT INTERNATIONALLY,BE OUR 
>  GUESTS AND SUPPORT OUR MACEDONIA TO BE UNITED AGAIN SO WE CAN SPEND OUR 
> 
>   SUMMER HOLIDAYS ON THE AGEAN COASTLINE OF MACEDONIA.

Halkididki has fantastic beaches.

See you on the beach, Theo Mandamadiotis
Xref: sparky soc.culture.greek:7552 soc.culture.yugoslavia:7979
From: kc2h+@andrew.cmu.edu (Karen Callas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.yugoslavia
Subject: HELP-Touring Greece on the 31st
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:31:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.YeX1Ug_00iUxI4uFE4
	<47740@licra.dn.mu.oz.au>
Organization: H&SS Dean's Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I will be touring Athens and the islands come the 31st of August.  I
have relatives I've never met and due to time restrants I sent
correspondence to them on the 10th.  Probably won't be enough time to
make arrangements to visit or even know if they will be in town.  

My request is -- is there anyone in Athens that I may fax my travel info
to and they in turn mail it directly to them?  (I will reimburse)
Otherwise I will contact them upon my arrival and it will be a BIG
surprise all the way around!!  Please reply to me directly 

kc2h@andrew.cmu.edu

Many thanks.
From: s342053@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: Greek Word Processing Programs?
Date: 21 Aug 92 15:32:20 GMT

In article <48006@licra.dn.mu.oz.au>, THEO@licra.dn.mu.oz.au writes:
> Sorry if this has been asked many times before, but can anyone give me any 
> information on Greek word processing programs. Info about how these programs 
> compare to programs such as Word, Wordperfect etc. Also I would appreciate 
> info regarding the availability of these programs or the availability of
> sample disks.
> 
> Thanks, Theo Mandamadiotis


G'day Theo, 
		how r u?

well as far as greek word processing programs go it mainly depends on what
system your using!!

Ive got a mac and i can get access to greek word proccessing progams quite
easilly

for ibm's greek word proccessing is also available.

do u want to buy someyhing or are u just asking around.

not sure for how much they retail over here, but can find out for u if u want.
not a problem!!

...................................................j
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.greek:7819 soc.culture.french:6029 soc.culture.british:11743
From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.french,soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: This reminds me...
Date: 21 Aug 92 13:43:52 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

In article <1992Aug21.152546.1@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au> s342053@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au writes:
>In article <sooz.714037204@vincent1.iastate.edu>, sooz@iastate.edu (Susan F Bradley) writes:
>> Please keep all this bickering about Turks, Greeks, Armenians, and
>> whoever else off of soc.culture.british. There are appropriate
>> newsgroups for these rantings and this is not one of them.
>
>hey ding dong!!!
>ever heard of freedom of speach?????

Freedom of speech is a very American concept, and doesn't work
everywhere in the international environment you've leapt into.  (As a
random example, some half-dozen Greeks have just been arrested in
Greece, for daring to suggest that maybe the world wouldn't come to an
end if the neighboring bit of ex-Yugoslavia was allowed to call itself
Macedonia.)

Nevertheless, you're right, no-one can stop you from saying whatever
you like about whatever you like in here.  However, that's not the
point.  The question is one of manners.  This group is 'designed' for
people who want to get together and discuss British culture and related
issues.  (I know this is crossposted -- I'm answering from s.c.b, and
similar arguments apply in the other groups.)  It is pretty damn
arrogant, self-centered behavior for you to pop up and tell us all that
you don't think we should be allowed to do that, but rather that we
should talk about what YOU want to talk about.  There ARE groups which
are full of people who DO want to talk about what you want to talk
about (I watch s.c.greek, for example) and who would appreciate hearing
your views, even if only so they can argue with them.

>u do know that u have a brain and u r in control of your own
>decisions..don't u!

Yes, including knowing how to edit our kill files.  U do know that that
applies to u 2, don't you?  And that your decision to exercise your
discretion in the way you have just gives you an international reputation
for not knowing where are the appropriate places to do what?

>no is making u read it or look at it!
>fool!

Personal abuse will get you no, zero, nil, nada, points in this group.
Zilch, in fact.  Bye...

-- 
Paul Smee, Computing Service, University of Bristol, Bristol BS8 1UD, UK
 P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk - ..!uunet!uknet!bsmail!p.smee - Tel +44 272 303132
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: dk0a@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (DIMITRIOS KOUVATSOS)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: Barbaros (F244)
Date: 22 Aug 92 01:33:25 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Aug20.003144.14451@news.columbia.edu>, da26@cunixb.cc.columbia.e
du (Deniz  Akkus) writes:

>You mean because the ship is going to be named Barbaros -- Turkish
>version of Barbarossa, who opened his eyes to the world as the son of
>a Greek fisherman?
>
>:-)..
>
>Deniz Akkus

Heck, you seem to know details of Turkish history and especially if connected
to the Greek nation. So, Barbarossa was a born Greek converted into a Turk,
you inform us!

If true, he would be one of the countless of millions of Greeks forcibly lost
for ever to the Greek nation by a genocidal, brutal (as in the case of the
drafting of Greek boys to be turkified and form the jannissary corps) and
gradual (islamization of Greeks to escape continual persecution or harassment)
process of assimilation employed by the Ottomans. It's a miracle that after 4
centuries some Greeks still survived.

But most of the cultural heritage destroyed, and civilization foundered in the
place of its birth under the dead weight of Turkish brutality. And possibly 80%
to 90% of the Greek people lost to forced conversion, the remainder dragged
down towards the Turks' heinous level.

Certainly too much to ever forget or forgive.

-- 
------------------------    "This is the greatest planet on the face of
+= Dimitris Kouvatsos *=     the earth"
<dk0a@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>
------------------------           -- Vice President J. Danforth Quayle
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: What kind of people are Turks?
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:24:21 GMT

sadi@physics1 (Sadi Turgut) writes:
> After reading this article written by Virrankoski, I got a clear opinion
> about the state of mind of this particular person and how screwed up it is,
> BUT I didn't generalize this to *all* people in Finland or *all* Russians, since
>  know that one person cannot be representative of a whole population. So,
> I won't sink to the level of this person and I will confine my small reply
> to this particular person..

My, My.

Generalizations based on race or religion have long been a staple of the
'Mutlu'/'Cosar' posting house. 

Who can forget remarks aimed at the 'clown-ians', 'moron-ians', 'greasy
pallikarya', 'western anti-moslems', 'fino culture', etc.

I personally find Virrankoski's post idiotic to say the least. Despite
'Mutlu'/'Cosar''s best efforts, I have come to know and like other 
fellow netters from Turkiye. Those who can think on their own, I may add.

So, Sadi, it's fairly simple. Any kind of posting that denigrates entire
peoples based on race/religion/origin, such as the collected works of 
'Mutlu'/'Cosar' or Virrankoski's, are stupid. 

Wouldn't it be a lot easier to acknowledge it in public?

Regards,

Spiros
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Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                       c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com 
OUZO POWER                                      striantafyll@kosds1.gm.hac.com
From: yiannis@WAM.UMD.EDU (IOANNIS VELISSARAKOS  ATHINA-HELLAS)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: The Treaty of Maastricht  (3)
Date: 16 Aug 92 21:50:18 GMT


		STAGE TWO

	This stage begins on 1 January 1994 with the establishment of the
European Monetary Institute. By then the process leading to the independence
of national central banks should have begun.

	The tasks of the EMI are to:

	* strengthen cooperation between the national central banks;
	* co-ordinate monetary policies;
	* facilitate the use of the ECU and over see the functioning of the
	  ECU clearing system;
	* monitor the European Monetary System.

	Both the Commission and the newly founded EMI report on progress
towards convergence to the European Council.
	The crunch comes on 31 December 1996 when the Council must decide
whether a majority of member states meet the four convergence criteria on 
inflation, budget deficit, interest and exchange rates. If the answer is Yes,
the Community can take the plunge by launching into the third and final 
stage of monetary union.

	If no date has been fixed by the end of the following year, then the
European System of Central Banks must be established by 1 July 1998 and  
Stage 3 must follow regardless, on 1 January 1999, including those states
which have met the conditions to adopt the common currency.



		
		STAGE THREE

	When stage 3 begins the ECU becomes a currency in its own right. 
All the participating states will agree the conversion rates at which their
currencies will be irrevocably fixed and will be exchanged for ECUs. From
the first day, the European Central Bank takes helm and the EMI is pensioned
off (though some of the same individuals might resurface). The ECB has an 
enviable freedom. It is independent, "not taking instructions from anyone,
whether EC institutions, governments or any other body".
	The ECB has the exclusive right to authorise issue of ECU banknotes
by the European or national central banks. The latters' most conspicious 
role may be reduced to advising on design of the ECU notes for their own
particular country.
	Member states can only issue coins subject to ECB approval and 
technical specifications of coins must be cleared by the Council.
	With exchange rates between the Community currencies now glued
tight, the only remaining question on this front is the value of the ECU
relative to outside currencies such as the US dollar. This is an issue
for the Council of Ministers, who, however bitterly they wrangle among 
themselves first, must speak as one to the outside world.

							   Victor Smart.


------------------------------------------------------------------------

Without permission,
Yiannis Velissarakos

Xref: sparky soc.culture.greek:7674 soc.culture.europe:7451 soc.culture.turkish:9048
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 02:35:51 EDT
From: <PXP111@psuvm.psu.edu>  Andronikos Romanos
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Shaw is fun!!! :-)

Do these people read what they write?
Since TV has only replays  let's enjoy one more abstract from this Shaw
guy  - Not that Sparta is an island! - but another, from page 205 which
Turkish Propaganda floods us with:
>
>  Avran Galante, who lived for many years among the Greeks  on the is-
> land of Rhodes,  where the Jewish community was numerous, but still a
          ::::::
Whao!
This time the "historian" (sic!) managed to pick an actual island!!!

> substantial minority compared to the Greeks and Muslims, relates how
> he  tried  desperately to secure assistance from the Greek religious
  ::  :::::  :::::::::::
> authorities to end the pogroms,  securing Patriarchal encyclicals in
> 1873,1874,1884 and 1898, but with only limited success...
  ::::::::::::::
You mean Abraham Galante tried desperately?
This must be a miracle!
Abraham Galante was not in Rhodes in 1873!
Abraham Galante was most probably in the womb of his mother that year!
Abraham Galante was not in Rhodes in 1874!
Most probably he was a few months old in Budrum and his family moved to
Rhodes when he was nine-ten years old... In 1883!
So let's rule out his "efforts in 1884" too as much as he was an infant
prodigy...   (which by the way, netters, he was  and a very much respe-
cted educator I must add).

Let's see what else we are going to see around.. :-)
But I already made an important decision:  Dear Santa please forget the
funny toys I asked you for Christmas  and...  TRY to bring me a book of
Shaw! It will be a great gift!  So amazingly distorted and.. irrelevant
that with all the laugh that it will bring in my life  I'll have a won-
derful time and  I promise  to share this Joy with a lot of netters as
well. Please Santa... for all the kids in the network!!!
                                                              A.Romanos
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: re: 'Charlap' Has Proved Himself A True Humanitarian
Date: 20 Aug 92 21:14:52 GMT


 ptg2351@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Panos Tamamidis ) writes:
>  Now, one wonders: how come, a racist muslim like mutlu, posts tenths of
 pro-Jewish articles every day for several months? Is he in love with Jews?
 I could understand if he had posted one or two articles.  But hundrends of
 pro-Jewish articles from a muslim? Isn't this misterious?

I got one question to add to this:

how come most of his pro-Jewish articles appear on groups like 
soc.culture.australia, soc.culture.yugoslavia, etc. but not on
soc.culture.jewish. 

I brought it to his attention, which resulted in a minor flood or
two of posts to soc.culture.jewish, and a couple of days later we
ended up with consistent 10-12 greeks-did-this-and-that-to-jews
posted to random groups, with one or two SMALL, NON-INSULTING 
posts posted token-style to soc.culture.jewish.

When I was counting, the ratio was 10 to 2 for several days in 
a row.

Way to go.

Spiros
--
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                       c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com 
OUZO POWER                                      striantafyll@kosds1.gm.hac.com
From: pef@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (Panayotis Fouliras)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Re: ISO 10646 - TYPOPOIHSH
Date: 14 Aug 92 10:57:41 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London

Sxetika me tin typopoiisi pou einai sobaro zitima:

1) Giati o ELOT (i opoiosdipote foreas) den exei bgalei ena
standard gia Ellinikous xaraktires pou na epiblithei dia nomou?
Kai enoow, kathe ypologistis pou poulietai stin Ellada, na exei
*ypoxrewtika* to set twn Ellinikwn xaraktirwn, symfwna me to
standard epanw tou, wste na min exoume alla anti allwn.

2) Giati den eimaste yperifanoi gia tin glwssa mas? Edw pame
pisw stin Ellada kai ta benzinadika, grafoun sta Agglika:

"Leaded", "Unleaded", "Diesel".

Geloia pragmata. Giati oxi "Amolybdi", "Petrelaio", klp? Gia
tous touristes? An nai, as yparxoun diples endeikseis, i (sto
katw-katw opws kanoun oi Galloi i oi Germanoi) as rwtisoun ton
ypallilo, i as mathoun kai kammia elliniki leksi.

Oxi tipote allo, alla to pragma exei katantisei aidia...

Panayotis

PS Kai to manabiko tis geitonias, "supermarket"...
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
From: karageorgiou@scsuc.ctstateu.edu (Voodoo Man : member XMAK)
Subject: Politismos
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Southern Connecticut State University - Computer Center
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 21:23:00 GMT


	For all those involved. Mutlu's agitprop tactics are getting to you.
That means if you go into fits of violent postings HE (oh terror:-) is winning
the game. Put up or Shut up, freedom of speech guarantees his ravings. The
forgeries are another story.. :-) Not to mention that you are doing nothing
to help the not so good international image of modern Hellenes (greeks)

	BTW if indeed Mutltu has an IEEE publications then a) he must
either be able to write coherently or b) it was forged. If a) is true
then the man Mutlu posting to USENET is not the same. Because his writing
is NOT coherent. I hope B) is not true, nobody would stoop so low.
	Since a) seems to be the case then the obvious conclusion is that
somebody(ies) are using happyface's name for posting. Can anyone check
if the real Mutlu is alive? I mean I do not wish bad for the man 
but desecrating a name ? Is he under blackmail ? Does he realize the
proffesional damge he is inflicting upon his reputation ? Who would
hire someone to answer to 30 postings daily under a SIGLE newsgroup ?:-)
	
	People I am serious too, no body is worth such a fate, help the man 
out.

	BTW I am really beginning to like this Fayegh guy. He seems more
reasonable than some other hotblooded apes.
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karage@scus1.ctstateu.edu
The opinions above are mine,Mine,MIne,MINe,MINE.
Yeian kai eytyxeian    Health and happiness for everyone,every single one
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From: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Calls for sexual acts with the attorneys of Mr H.Mutlu.(Vote YES/NO)
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:30:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Invention Factory's BBS - New York City, NY - 212-274-1243v.32bis
Reply-To: michael.polymenakos@factory.com (Michael Polymenakos) 


NG>Subject: FUCK Mutlu's LAWYERS!!!!

  Ta kalo poy se qelw, Niko, fora profylajh. Otan gamas toys dikhgorous toy
  Xasan Moytloy, gamas olous toys dikhgoroys me toys opois exei gamhqei o
  Moytloy ta teleytaia deka xronia. Kai ap'oti fainetai, metrhmo aytoi den
  exoyn.

NG>Ah, by the way, FUCK YOU TOO!!!

  Ayto ennoeitai.

NG>Nikos Gavrielatos

  By the way, ti newtera? Kairo exoyme na ta poyme. Peires to e-mail moy?
  Mpas kai mas agnoeis?

  `C8^)

  Mixalhs.
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From: UCNICK@UMUC.BITNET (Nick Gavrielatos)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek
Subject: Cosar, Corass, that was quite a bendover!!!
Date: 22 Aug 92 06:43:26 GMT


Cosar, Corass, Corassita-honey.... what the hell happenned???

Just a few days ago you not only ignored all warnings and 
requests for a public apology, but accompanied by your sister
Hasan Mutlu-Bitch-Malak you tried to come on top, and prove
to the world(!) that you had done nothing wrong!!! 


... and then all of a sudden....

A public apology to Dr Zaphiris Christides, stating explicitly 
that you had FORGED his userid!!!


Ha ha ha!!! I am glad you took my advice and got the valvoline 
I suggested to you! You seemed to have used most of it!!! :-)

Watch out, you may have to bend over and expose your ass again, 
so dont use the whole barrel, leave some for the next round!!!
I can guarantee you, YOU WILL NEED IT AGAIN AND AGAIN!!!


:-) you are only good for laughs man... :-) :-) :-) 


But let me just try to imagine how this could happen!

I bet someone in your department took a big telephone post
and ... tickled you a bit... didnt they??? And I bet no 
mutlu-bitch-malak was there then to support you and tell 
you to charge... noone was there to see your hands getting
slapped, your corass intensified and exposed, the valvoline
(or rather the oil-of-olay you had since then) dripping
from all over.... no multu-malak was there to hear you scream
when the telephone post entered you!!! 


Dont worry corassita! We still hear you now! We can picture
the whole thing, we can still see a small portion of the 
telephone post outside of you... :-) 


The fact is, cosar, that not only you humiliated yourself 
all over the net, not only you got intimidated by netters
who caught you forging mail and then lying about it, BUT
you have disgraced yourself in your department as well!

Now they know what kind of fraud you are, now you have 
exposed yourself not as a serious student but as a cheap
and computer-ignorant individual, unable to learn basic
computer principles-and thus worthless, and even worse, 
now your academia knows that you are here to get a degree
in ... turkish propaganda stupid tricks!!! 

You have long deserved this Cosar, its been long overdue!


Nikos Gavrielatos
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