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From: hees@cubic.com (Phil Hees)
Subject: Re: Fuji, Connor, Quantum, which drive is better?
Organization: Cubic Toll Systems
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 00:57:43 GMT

In article <40561@imag.imag.fr> oueichek@imag.fr (Ibaa Oueichek) writes:
>Paul Siu (upsiu@KING.MCS.DREXEL.EDU) wrote:
>: 
>: I have been looking into getting a large hard disk (300-500) range.  The
>: three drive that come to mind were the Fujitsu M2624 series of drives, the
>: Connor 540 meg, and the Quantums pro 425.
>
>  I've seen Fujitus's on Next's. They are quite fast, but they tend to be a
>little hot. I think they have the best warranty among other drives, and you
>should be able to have a Fujitsu 520Mb for the same price (maybe less) of the
>QPro425.

Fujitsu's are fast and reliable, but the 300meg drives we recently bought
run so hot that you almost burn your hand if you touch them.  Connor
drives are normally very low power and run more quietly too, although I
don't have experience with their drives over 200meg.  If heat/power
consumption aren't important issues, all three manufacturers have good
track records (pun unintentional :)

--
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From: David.Zatz@f947.n107.z1.ieee.org (David Zatz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: New Rumors: no US IIvi, crippled LC
Date: 29 Sep 92 05:31:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: zeus.16538.2AC8E1D9
Organization: FidoNet node 1:107/947 - NJMUG BBS, Clark NJ

Using 1.4 meg drives that ignored the 800K and 400K formats would (a)
cripple many machines in terms of interoperability; there are many, many
Pluses and SEs out there, and (b) give DOS people something to laugh
about; all of their machines are downward-compatible.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: lagonda@leland.Stanford.EDU (Bobby Liao)
Subject: WANTED: portable printer for powerbook
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 06:42:17 GMT

	What (battery-powered) portable printers are
	available for the PowerBooks?  Prices and
	recommendations are greatly appreciated!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: bachww@rtsg.mot.com (Bud Bach)
Subject: WANTED:  Better PB100 Trackball
Reply-To: bachww@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:13:50 GMT

This may be a FAQ but does anyone know where I might find a better
trackball for the PB100.  By better, I mean one feels like it has some
weight behind it.  The ball in there now is pathetic...  -- Bud

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From: brad@wana.pbrc.hawaii.edu (Brad Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: LaserWriter hangs with large print jobs
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:32:42 GMT
Organization: Bekesy Laboratory, University of Hawaii

I'm trying to solve a problem associated with printing large MacDraw
jobs using Sys 7 and a LaserWriter II NT.  Our users often include
scanned bitmaps in their documents and these jobs hang the printer.
The problem seems to have gotten worse since we upgraded to Sys 7.

My guess is that the printer doesn't have enough memory.  Right now it
has 2 Megs.  I think the reason that the problem got worse with Sys 7
is that the ProcSets or some other initialization code is larger and
takes more of the available memory.  We can print these jobs via
Appletalk to another printer that has 3 Megs of memory.

Can anyone confirm my suspicions or suggest an alternative reason for
our printing problems?  If the problem is clearly memory, I would
appreciate suggestions of where to buy memory upgrades for this
printer.

Thanks.


-- 
      Brad Jones  brad@ahi.pbrc.hawaii.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Jim Cook <J.Cook@ENS.Prime.COM>
Subject: Re: Advice on 128Mb magneto-optical?
Reply-To: <J.Cook@ENS.Prime.COM>
Organization: Prime Computer, Inc.
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 16:13:03 GMT

In article <72702@apple.Apple.COM> dgiles@Apple.COM (Darren Giles) writes:
>I'm considering a 3.5", 128Mb magneto-optical drive for personal use, and
>would love any suggestions...

The MacWorld (November '92?) that arrived in the mail this week had a review
covering about 30 of these.  Get a copy.

Jim

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc
From: franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin)
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Organization: Math, Stats & CS, Dalhousie University, Halifax, NS, Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:46:32 GMT

In article <1CE00001.eutag3@tbomb.ice.com> time@ice.com (Tim Endres) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep30.164359.16118@cc.umontreal.ca> (comp.sys.mac.hardware,comp.sys.mac.comm,comp.sys.mac.misc), tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos) writes:
>> THE PERFORMA IS A GREAT FAMILY COMPUTER, BUT IT IS NOT THE COMPUTER
>> FOR THOSE WHO USE THEIR CURRENT MAC FOR MORE ADVANCED FEATURES AND
>> HEAVY DUTY GRAPHICS OR DESK TOP PUBLISHING.
>
>Thank you for shouting the totally obvious.
>
Thank you for following up with the totally obvious.

steve
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From: kucharsk@solbourne.com (William Kucharski)
Subject: Re: using a Sun QIC-150 SCSI tape drive
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:18:13 GMT

While reading article <1992Oct3.182459.25810@Cigna.COM>, I noticed that
nagel@Cigna.COM (Mark Nagel) said the following:
 >Are there any programs out there that can backup to a QIC-150?  I would
 >think there would be, but I don't remember reading about any.

Retrospect v1.3 works wonderfully with a QIC-150.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: d88-jwa@alv.nada.kth.se (Jon Wtte)
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Originator: d88-jwa@alv.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
	<1992Oct1.151824.15617@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
	<BvGE39.BsC@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
	<1992Oct1.193534.5212@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 12:06:22 GMT

 hades@coos.dartmouth.edu (Hades) writes:

   that. Yes there is a headphone jack on the older macs, and I'm pretty
   sure that it is a mono output jack that works just like the internal
   speaker. What I should have been saying was that these macs, with the
   headphone jacks, do not have direct sound-in ports as thoush macs with
   microphones do. And while it is possible to connect a set of speakers to
   the headphone jack, it is not a stereo sound-out port.

Dead wrong.

The SE/30 has stereo sound out in the headphone jack,
just like the Mac II, and IIx, and IIci, and IIcx, and ...
The SE/30 ALSO MIXES both channels to the speaker; many
other macs just use one channel (the left, I think)

       No. See I was still not making myself clear... All of the macs that
   come with a microphone have ports for mono sound input and stereo sound
   output.  They only come with one internal speaker (mono only,
   obviously), so if you have a game with stereo sound and you want to take
   advantage of this you will need to connect stereo speakers to the

Still wrong, since the LC, LCII and ClassicII come with sound-in
but only has mono sound out, even in the headphones jack.

-- 
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"From now on, I think I'll re-label the EQ on the
 desk as Fizz and Wobble, rather than HF and LF."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: wirehead@cheshire.oxy.edu (David J. Harr)
Subject: Anyone get a Apple Scanner working under 7.x?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Summary: It don't work and I want it to.
Keywords: System 7, scanner, drivers.
Organization: THe programmers who say NEE!
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 04:45:32 GMT

Is anyone succesfully using the Apple Scanner (you know, the
original...) with System 7 and a Quadra? I inherited one a
couple of days ago, and I can't seem to get it to work. The
driver seems to load all right and the software recognizes the
scanner is on the SCSI bus, but when I try to do a scan, a
dialog pops up with a message saying "Scan in progress.", and
then almost immediately another dialog pops up saying "An error
has occurred: A bad parameter or command has occurred." If anyone
has any hints, it would be nice. I realize that I can upgrade
to the new software, but if I can avoid that option, it would
be nice.

David.
From: Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Info on Powerbook 160 & 180
Date: 4 Oct 92 20:51:27 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 8:7000/57.5 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

Please share any info you may have on these two models. Are they the same as
the Duo they keep hyping about or separate models?

Thanks in advance.
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From: louisc@lsil.com (Louis Chui)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: F-line error
Date: 2 Oct 92 22:45:58 GMT
Reply-To: louisc@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Logic Corporation


I was running Prodigy on my Mac Classic II w/ System 7.0
last night when I got a system error message saying something
about "F-line error". Any clue? I got this message a day or
two ago on another apps, but can't recall what it was. It doesn't
look like that it's something caused by the apps itself.

BTW, I couldn't restart the system but have to power down.

Thanks for any help.

Louis Chui
louisc@lsil.com
From: tsirbasc@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Tsirbas Christos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Let's talk Performas, Boys and Girls
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:43:46 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Where do you get your information about the sound-out ports on the SE/30, IIcx
and IIci.  All of these machines lack a sound input port, but all have a stereo
output port.

Here's a quote from the June 1989 issue of MacUser, discussing the just introduced IIcx:  

"The machine sports the usual set of built-in ports: two serial, two Apple Desktop Bus (ADB), one SCSI, one extrernal floppy, and a STEREO OUTPUT JACK.

The fact of the matter is:  The SE/30, IIcx, and IIci all feature stereo output,
The LC and LCII do not have stereo output.  If you want proof of this, check out
the MacWorld and MacUser issues where the LCII is discussed and compared to a IIsi. 

Quoted from the May 1992 issue of MacWorld:

"The IIsi can accommodate more memory and provides stereo sound to the LC II's
mono",

Nuff said.

According to Byte, the Performa 600 has the same sound chip as the LCII, thus

MONO sound generated by the soundchip.  Stereo pass-through for the stereo 
sound coming from the CD-ROM.

Chris Tsirbas
tsirbasc@brise.ere.umontreal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: ttak@quads.uchicago.edu (toki  takeuchi)
Subject: REAL computer bugs on my screen!  Argh!!
Reply-To: ttak@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 23:16:27 GMT

I've been getting little critters (tiny ones!) crawling all over
my anti-glare screen lately.  Every time I use my computer,
I see one to two of these tiny bugs crawling on the screen.
They don't bother me too much, since it's fun to squash them
with the tip of a pencil (they're that small), but I don't
like the idea of having parasites inhabiting my computer.  Besides,
maybe they can cause physical damage?  Like lay eggs in the screen
filter or inside the Mac?

I bet I'm not the only one in the world with this problem?  Does
anyone know how I can exterminate these computer bugs?

Thanks.

Kenji Takeuchi (please repy directly to: ttak@midway.uchicago.edu)
			REPLY, I mean.  Excuse me.
From: drand@spinner.osf.org (Douglas S. Rand)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Re: Mac's Doomsday
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:24:11 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Organization: Open Software Foundation

In article <Nazedgi-031092150743@stiles-kstar-node.net.yale.edu> Nazedgi@yalevm.ycc.yale.edu writes:

   Being a former PC user and now a Mac convert I've come to the following
   conclusion:  The majority of Mac users just don't get it.  If Apple really
   wants to lure a significant amount of PC users it will have to do something
   more than proclaim the superiority of the Mac hardware and software. 
   They'll have to enter a cut-throat competition:  Dell is doing it, Compaq
   is doing it,  Big Blue is doing it.  And I'm not talking about
   middle-of-the-road solutions like the Performa line,  I'm talking about
   really powerful computer at cheap prices.  Right now, you can get Windows
   workstations for less than $2000 (including a monitor) that would blow away
   all but the fastest macs, the Quadra line. Now, I'm not saying that Windows
   is even close to the MacOS (heck, it's not even an operating system), but
   it will certainly give you a good run for your money.  For the average PC
   user, Macs look pretty,  but incredibly overpriced. 

If your PC user runs Windows 3.x then he will probably notice that to
get performance equivalent to a IIsi he'll need at least a slow
486 box.  Windows/NT and OS/2 both make this still worse.  System 7
is (believe it or not) more sparing of RAM then Windows 3.x and has
most of the same functionality (lacking DLLs).  

Secondly,  many people just look at the price of entry.  The Performas
are not a bad attempt at lowering this and making it easy.  Almost
none of the home users care about performance,  they only care if
it can get their job done.  Most business users (real PC users) 
are in the same boat.  They want price,  ease of use and
performance,  IMO in that order.  Windows still doesn't equal MacOS
in ease of use,  and the real price of a reasonable PC with a sharp
screen (not the 200 VGA with the 1" spot size) is at least that of
an equivalent Mac.  

One persons opinions.

  


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From: jimy@vlsidsp.ece.wisc.edu (Jim K. H. Yu)
Subject: Re: Imagine my dismay when...
Organization: Univ. of Wisconsin-Madison; Electrical & Computer Engineering
Date: 26 Sep 92 13:04:26 CDT

In article <D88-JWA.92Sep26130410@dront.nada.kth.se> d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon Wtte) writes:
>> mssmith@afterlife.ncsc.mil (M. Scott Smith) writes:
>
>   But that's a GOOD thing!  (And I'm very anti-PC, don't worry.)  I remember
>   being told that the IBM hard drives are MUCH quicker than the Quantum's or
>   anything else available, at least they were a year ago.
>
>No, it's not. However, it's more durable than many other drives.
>
>   Just don't buy an IBM >computer<.  But the IBM hard drives are of a higher
>
>Actually, it's IBM >Operating Systems< you should stay
>clear of. The hardware is OK (RS/6000 for instance)
>
>
Not. What Operating System? Does IBM have one? DOS and OS/2
were written by Microsoft.
RS/6000? I thought we were talking about personal computers.
Sure IBM have good mainframe and workstation hardware. That's
what's holding it together. But IBM PC's sucks. You can buy
a better PC hardware (in every sense) from clone reputable clone
makers at half the price.
The only technical advance on IBM PCs is the Microchannel bus
in the PS/2's. But thanks to their lousy marketing that seems to 
have died. IBM actually went back to AT bus in their PS/1's.
It's like Sony making VHS VCRs.
The lattest news is that IBM will spin-off their PC division as
an independent (and profitable) company. Good bye IBM.
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Jim K. H. Yu
jimy@eckert.ece.wisc.edu
From: davidl@ssd.intel.com (David Levine)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: PB 100, 140/170 RAM different?
Date: 29 Sep 92 16:28:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: SSD.1992Sep29.162801.13684
Distribution: usa
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.

I have a 2M RAM module here that I want to put in a PowerBook 100, but
nobody remembers whether it came out of a PB 100, 140, or 170.  Are
they the same?  If not, how can I tell whether or not it's compatible
with my system?

- David D. Levine, Intel Supercomputer Systems Division == davidl@ssd.intel.com
  "It's Dave, man, open up, I got the stuff!"  "Dave?  Dave's not here, man..."
From: bb11807@thug (Brian A. Blow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Turning on a Powerbook
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:23:50 GMT
Organization: Medtronic, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

OK, stupid question #1298:

Is there a keyboard-equivalent way to turn the power on for a
Powerbook?  It seems kind of inconvenient to have to flip open
the back panel to turn it on.

--Brian        brian.blow@medtronic.com
From: bohus@ace.rutgers.edu (Geza Bohus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Accellerators for SE - info request
Keywords: accellerators, 68030
Date: 27 Sep 92 09:30:14 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.


Hi
 
I am planning to buy a 68030+68882 for a Mac SE. Any 
suggestions on what to buy and where to buy? I saw that 
there are quite different prices for cards apparently offering 
the same features (e.g: Mercury 030 around $ 350; New Life 
accellerator around $ 490). I will summarize.
 
Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: dave@nakiska.ucs.ualberta.ca (David Ross)
Subject: Mac hardware sound filter specs
Reply-To: userroch@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:57:14 GMT

I am posting this on behalf of Bernard.  

Question regarding hardware sound filter mechanism in Macintoshes -  
specifically a PowerBook 140...  Bernard asks:

PowerBooks have a built-in anti-aliasing low-pass filter which is used  
when sound is digitized via the sound input port.
What are the specifications of that filter?  Eg:
	- Corner frequency (3 dB down point)?
	- Rate of fall-off in dB per octave?
	- Do the characteristics of the filter vary with the sampling rate 
	  (11 or 22 kHz)?
Does this information exist in a book somewhere?  We've checked Inside Mac  
volumes and have only come up with OS-level information.  Any pointers  
would be GREATLY appreciated!!  Thankyou in advance!

Please email replies to:	userroch@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
				Bernard Rochet
(I've hopefully set the Reply-To: header to do this)
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From: ns111310@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (The BLaCKSMiTHE)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Apple 21" greyscale monitor   ***FOR SALE***
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:47:47 GMT
Organization: Colorado State U. Engineering College

Apple Macintosh 21" Greyscale Monitor
FOR SALE

IDEAL  FOR  DESKTOP  PUBLISHING
1152 x 880 pixel display area,
72 dpi (Macintosh WYSIWYG)
Display card is compatible with any Macintosh 
with NuBus slots 
(II, IIx, IIcx, IIci, IIfx, IIsi, Quadras, etc.)
Display card has had the RAM upgraded
to display 16 shades of grey.
No Distortions, no flicker, bright, sharp, and fast.
Display area is approximately 16" by 12"
It is large enough to easily fit two 8.5x11 pages 
side-by-side, with plenty of room for tool pallets.
I am selling it because I am purchasing a
NeXT computer.
The monitor is clean, no scratches, dents,
it is in perfect condition.
Built-in tilt/swivel base is included along with
all cables (power and interface)

asking  $900

contact Nate Sammons at 303.482.6812
(leave a message)
or email: ns111310@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu

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From: matthew@wavefront.wti.com (Matthew Coohill)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: HELP PLEASE!!!
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:16:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: wavefron.601
Organization: Wavefront Technologies Inc, Santa Barbara, CA
X-Disclaimer: Not a spokesperson for Wavefront Technologies, Inc.


	Howdy!

	I am having problems in several areas and decided to let experts
  have a shot at handling them.

	For one, I work for a company with alot of of workstations.  We would
  like to take one of the RGBs from a workstation and hook it into a Mac for
  24-bit color.  Does anyone know of any cards for the Mac (IIfx and/or IIci)
  that will give you 24-bit on an RGB monitor (i.e., SGI, SUN, TEK, HP, etc)?

	Secondly, I have CD-ROM drives for Sun and SGI... can I use them on
  my Mac (IIsi)?  How do I hook them up?  I have an external APS drive that
  has SCSI out and I think I can chain it, but do the new SGI drives have
  a format different than the Mac?  Huh?

	Lastly/Thirdly, I am trying (desperately) to get Eudora to work on our
  Mac(s).  I am experimenting with a Classic (6.0.7), a Cayman Gatorbox CS, and
  a SUN Sparc (as the server).  We have POP-3 running on the Sun, we are using
  MacTCP on the Mac, but I can't seem to get the thin to work.  I start up as
  myself, type my password, it says "finding out local network information",
  finding wavefront.wti.com (Sparc Server) and then it says...

	"Server not responding.  The connections came up halfway and then
		failed"  {185082}

	If you know the answer to any of these questions, please reply VIA
  E-MAIL!!!  I am not subscribed to this discussion group.

	Mail me at...

		matthew@penguin.wti.com

	Thanks in advance!

  Matt Coohill
From: ram@cs.umb.edu (Robert Morris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: RasterOps 264/se30 fair price?
Date: 2 Oct 92 11:55:20 GMT
Reply-To: ram@cs.umb.edu
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Boston

Can someone offer me an opinion on the market value of a RasterOps
ColorBoard 264/SE30? A friend had offered to sell me one and neither
of us knows a fair price.

Reply by email please. Thanks.
Bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
From: Quinn <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>
Subject: Re: 68050
X-Xxdate: Tue, 29 Sep 92 02: 39:46 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 02:41:06 GMT

In article <i%#@byu.edu> Jim Freeze, freeze@ee.byu.edu writes:
>P5 is the code name for the 80586. Since you can't copyright
>a number, Intel is having a contest with its employees to name
>the new chip.

How about Bletch (-;

Quinn "The Eskimo!"      <quinn@cs.uwa.edu.au>     "Support HAVOC!"
Department of Computer Science, The University of Western Australia