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From: Steve Salter <ssalter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Is this a common thing?
Organization: OFSA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 12:47:34 -0500

RJD118@psuvm.psu.edu sez:


>I told her that "If I love you enough to make love to you, my feelings aren't
>going to change because of a pregnancy. Of course I would help out financially,
>it's as much my responsibility as yours, but I wouldn't otherwise abandon
>you because of a problem like that."

Well, at the very LEAST, I would admit to financial responsibility.
More than that though...consider what the mother-to-be is going to be
experiencing. Consider the future...of her and the child...YOUR child.
(yes, all hypothetical I know.) I kinda think that there "should" be
more than just financial responsibility. A child really can use TWO
parents. Get the picture? It may not be appropriate in all
circumstances but if a woman and a man make love and a pregnancy
results and abortion is not an emotional or ethical option for the
woman...hey, a child IS going to be born. A product of BOTH. 

Steven
From: lm89@ecs.soton.ac.uk (McIlhoney L)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: PARADISE
Date: 10 Apr 92 12:23:17 GMT


Today is perfect.  Well almost ...

Southampton's normally torrential weather has been replaced by warm
sunshine and the air is heady with the smell of cut grass.  Beautiful
women (all, alas, attached - and who'd look at me anyway?) are everywhere
wearing briefer and briefer outfits and I am feeling good ...

Two things required for it to be perfect:

(a) Don Henley "The Boys of Summer" to be played at full volume on
someone's ghetto blaster in the background.

(b) To have someone to make me drinks, and for me to make drinks for,
and to hold and go swimming with, and to laugh with, and to join me
in singing songs I don't even know the words to ...

" ... and how I wish I was in love."  (Peter Green)

Otherwise I'm quite happy!

What's your idea of a perfect day, anybody?

Lawrence
From: lisad@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Lisa Dominique)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Who cut the Cheese?  the 70's file
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:20:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: noose.1992Apr14.162047.10991
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Apr12.224847.1258@bvc.edu> hansencarlaa@bvc.edu writes:
>remember these great 70's stuff. . .
>
>round transistor radios--of various colors (mine was blue blue)
>
                      (lots deleted for space saving)

>"We need more Calgon!  Ancient Chinese secret, huuuuuuh?"
>
> Creepy Crawlers!
>
>Thanks.  Done.  Thanks for stickin' through.  Great to be old enough to be 
>nostalgic and have hip pointers, but shouldn't the pimples be gone by now??

I absolutely **Loved** your post!!  Excellent pick-me-up too.

Thanks for sharing.  All I have to say is, "Groovy, Man!!"   |)


Lis

p.s.  Heaven is a *Hug* and a *Smile*
      the Joy of Music and the Beauty of Silence
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
From: rudoff@mdd.comm.mot.com (Doug Rudoff)
Subject: Re: Sanctity of relationships
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Distribution: world,soc
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:34:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.214508.28116@csi.uottawa.ca> tcl@csi.UOttawa.CA (Tim Lethbridge) writes:
>OK, let's take this one step further. Is one morally bound
>to *ask* a potential SO whether they are available, or is the
>onus on him/her to tell you if he/she is *not* available?
>
>Personally, I think the latter.

I agree, but from experience I get the impression if the potential SO
has an SO, but is considering a change, he/she will not mention the
SO.

Case in point:

Last year there was a woman I knew that when ever we got together we'd
have a tendency to flirt. We mostly met when we were at meetings for an
organization we both volunteered for; we never went out socially.

After knowing her a few months, I asked her out. I had an extra ticket
for the opera and called her up to see if she was interested in going.
She was really excited about going and then said, "Oh! I can't. I
forgot, I'm going camping with a friend." She seemed really sincere
about the whole thing so I figured I'd ask her out later.

When I asked her out again, she said her boyfriend didn't want her
going out with other men. I had no idea she had an SO. Later I found
out they had been going out together for over a year and her SO was
the friend she went camping with.

What was never clear to me was why previously she didn't tell me she
had an SO, only refering to him as a non-gender specific friend. I
have no idea if she just didn't think of it, or was avoiding
mentioning him because she didn't want me to lose interest in her.

In any case, she moved out state of short afterwards, so I never found
out the answer.

Ironically, the same week she said she couldn't go out with me, I met
her SO at a party (she was there, too). And her SO and I got along
quite well and was a "nice guy" (although I don't think he knew I had
asked out his girlfriend).
-- 
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From: afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: a question
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:00:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims02.8APR199218000292
Organization: Ancient Souls Inc.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr8.130135.1@runt.appstate.edu>, grs01153@runt.appstate.edu writes...
>Is it just me, or are Stephen's little asteriks before and after emphasized
>words incredibly annoying? 

Ed thinks it's just you, Shannon old buddy.  Me ? I'm not sure.  On the 
*off* chance that you're *seriously* clueless about my use of asterisks to 
emphasize, I do it to *enhance* rather than annoy.  For instance, without 
proper inflection, you might read this next sentence...

What's that in the road ahead ?

		as...

What's that in the road. A *head* ?

That is the verbal analog of why I emphasize with asterisks.

.. besides, it's *my* asterisk. (Read it out loud, it's a joke.)

>It is almost like he is insulting our intelligence, 

Naw, I leave that to the content of your posts.  *That* insults your 
intelligence *far* more efficiently than *I* ever could.

>that he is implying that we are incapable of deciding what words we 
>should read more emphatically than others.

Based on the fact that you are annoyed, *and* have (perhaps intentionally) 
read right past the informational parts of my posts, I must admit that they 
*don't* seem to be working as intended.

> 
>Or maybe I am just inferrring that misateknly.....
> 

So... what kind of punctuation would you require to stop those misatekn[sic]
inferences ? (Where *did* you get the discount on your r's ?? You use them 
so liberally.)

>Yeah, right, whatever....

No, left, whoever ...

>So I will ask the question we are all thinking, 

The `we' apparently refers to Shannon's pet mouse ...

>Stephen, why are you so anal?

Uh... you're *obvious* rectal fixation worries me, Shannon...

>When was the last time you got laid? 

Thanks for the offer, Shannon old buddy, but I *try* to date within my own 
species, not within my own gender. (This in *no* way is supposed to imply 
that I have inferred *your* gender from your posts, it's a reference to the 
`anal' comment)

>Wonder if there is a correltaion.....

You'll have to define a `correltaion' before I can tell you if there *is* 
one.

> 
>Just a joke, not meant to offend.....(to quote Someone...)

A *quote* ?!?!?!?! Wow, imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, so 
the *quote* flatters *me* and the *post* flatters Norm Crosby.  2 for 1 !

Nice deal.

>>`'       The car is still here, but I think she went to the airport.
	   
	   The lights are on and *nobody's* drivin'

Oh, and I think it should be *obvious* what I'm kidding about here.

-- Stephen 

P.S.  Somebody brought this post to my attention or I wouldn't have 
responded so quickly... *your* e-mail is still in the works. :-)

(The only two valid e-mail addresses from now on are ...)
afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov,  afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov
.. boring .sig follows, press n to skip it.

	Never regret a *choice*.  Rather, save your regrets for the
	choices you *didn't* make.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: wong@bullet.ecf.toronto.edu (WONG  Peter Chih Chen)
Subject: Re: A Question for Females
Reply-To: wong@bullet.ecf.utoronto.ca (Peter Wong)
Organization: Dept. of Ind. Eng., U of Toronto, Canada
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 09:08:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.055046.14392@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> bss2p@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Brent S. Stone) writes:
>
>On to my question.. I don't want any theories on why she doesn't want to
>get involved (I could think of a few dozen reasons better than "we're
>friends" and she's seeing someone else now anyway).  What I do want to
>know is - do women usually avoid becoming involved with friends? 
>From my naive nice-guy viewpoint, it makes more sense to go from 
>friends--> beyond than to   ??? -----> friends.  
>

I believe in your last point and have found that my best relationships
are with friends, and in fact, best friends.

I feel women would prefer to be involved with friends who are *also* 
worth dating. In other words, everyone has many friends, certainly more 
than they'd consider dating. Friendship alone is not a good enough basis 
to form a relationship.

--Peter
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: rna@leland.Stanford.EDU (Robert Ashcroft)
Subject: Re: Love Sucks.....
Cc: susan@solace.me.uiuc.edu 
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 18:57:49 GMT

In article <1992Apr17.173053.24701@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> susan@solace.me.uiuc.edu (Susan Wrightson) writes:

>
>Well, Tommy, I'm sorry you feel this way about women -- maybe you should
>try a better attitude.  Then you just might meet one of these women
>that aren't concerned about your wallet.
>

Wait a minute.  It's not clear that he DOES think this way.  He posted
a passage from something and asked for comments.  Don't jump to conclusions.

RNA

Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa (Carp ????)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Yeah, *right* !
Date: 17 Apr 1992 08:09 EST  

In article <1992Apr16.224721.5339@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes...
>Teresa Kline writes:
>>Stephen Dennison writes...
> 
>>>>Not to mention not saying if you want it... :)
>>>
>>>Want it ? Heck, after all this time I'd be luck to recognize it. :-)
>>>
>>Well....I *could* buy you a book?????
> 
>No help.  It's been so long I think I'm going blind anyhow.
> 

Well, maybe it could be in Braille?????  :)
Welcome to the games, Pat.
-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: jpalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John D Palmer)
Subject: Re: Nice Guy problems
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 21:25:37 GMT

In article <92101.121606RJD118@psuvm.psu.edu> <RJD118@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>But, I digress. You can't sit back and wait for the magic to happen. You gotta
>be a little agressive here. There seems to be an intangible point where each
>person feels "friendship with this person is more important than anything
>more serious could become". In my experience, if by the fifth date neither
>of us has made a pass, friendship is all that is going to happen. And the
>fifth date is the maximum...

      Oh, yeah, my post forgot an important piece of dating advice. . . if
you are SURE you are interested in HER, and not just in 'getting some'
tonight, DON'T BE AFRAID TO MAKE A POLITE PASS!
 
    Give her a backrub. . . kiss her gently on the back of the neck, working
around to the front and the lips. . . and if she resists or pulls away, 
say you are sorry and say you were feeling a bit silly or something. . .
if she doesn't follow up IMMEDIATELY, she doesn't feel attraction for
you. . . write her off, at least for now, for romance.  If she IS interested
in you, she'll either respond or explain that she's not ready yet, or not sure
yet.
 
      Seeing if she wants to kiss you ISN'T nasty/horrible/rape/etc.  And
she probably won't ask, and probably doesn't want YOU to ask HER.  (Such 
questions get awkward.)  The key is a willingness to stop RIGHT AWAY if she
doesn't seem to find your attentions desireable.
 
                                                John
 


-- 
"Love is cool; I mean, like, really cool.  Like, the coolest thing in
the universe, where, like, people open up inside and show the world how
they feel, and they ain't afraid someone's gonna laugh because they, like,
love themselves already!"  --Personality 42, a generic 60's philosopher
From: osan@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (Mr. X)
Newsgroups: alt.romance,soc.singles,soc.couples
Subject: Re: Do You Remember - early '60s edition
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:32:59 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Twilight Zone

In article <1992Apr13.155604.25039@cbfsb.cb.att.com> joni@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joni.dunlap) writes:
>In article <1992Apr10.183910.14094@cbnewsd.cb.att.com> nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>>
	Any relation to Marc Colucci?

>
>How about wizzers tops that made a wizzing noise.
>
	How could I forget when some little prick dropped one on my head
	shortly after revving the God damned thing up such that the
	angular velocities were approaching relativistic levels.  Tore what
	must have been nearly 2 square inches of my hair right out of my
	head.  I bled like a stuck pig and I will not soon forget the
	pain.  I considered killing the bag of human refuse that had done
	this to me, but decided the best punishment was to let him live a
	long life as himself.  I've never regretted the decision, tee hee...
>>

	-Andy V.
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison)
Subject: Re: a question (AN ANSWER, not even a smart ass one)(yeah right!)
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Lessee ... I had it here a minute ago ...
Date:  7 Apr 1992 12:47 EST  

In article <1992Apr7.110748.1@runt.appstate.edu>, grs01153@runt.appstate.edu writes...
>Stephen, *the* smart ass indeed!

What, are you *new* to the net ? This seems to come as a shock to you, 
Shannon old friend.

>First of all, allow me to commend you on restraining yourself from the
>Frady-Cat jokes....

No charge.

>most people gain that ability in about the fourth grade,

.. and their spontenaity spirals down from that point.

>but we all understand that there are late-bloomers among us, 

.. leave my underwear out of it ! :-)

>and we must all share your joy when such milestone is reached!
> 

I'll absolve you of that burden, Shannon, as I've heard how painful it can 
be for a person to develop a sense of humor this late in life...

>Secondly, as though you really care, 

So, my joking style masked the serious parts of my response ?  I actually 
answered your question as succinctly as I could.  Apply the definition I 
gave you of cheating to *any* circumstance, and you will find that it holds 
up well.  Hank didn't seem to find my style offensive or obtruse, perhaps 
we ought to filter our communication through *his* posts to prevent future 
misunderstandings.

>I will gladly tell you why I asked my question, provided you email me..

.. check your mailbox, a request will be forthcoming.

>(and if you don't have a brother, then everybody and their goldfish, 
>chinchilla, or cheese sandwich)

See, *this* is the part that worries me, Shannon.  It's hard enough to 
develop a sense of humor when you'r starting from ground zero, but *you* 
have so much to *un* learn. :-) :-) (This was a joke, not meant to offend.)

By the way, what makes *your* juvenile humor acceptable and *mine* 
offensive ? (This is *not* a joke, though it *is* rehtorical (sp?))

> 
>And IF, by some miracle from God and all the Saints, you actually have
>something constructive to say, I'd be overjoyed to read it. 

Get set to orgasm ... uh, emotionally speaking of course. :-)

*Please* refer to my definition of `Cheating' in a previous post.  Tell ya 
what, *I'll* wade back through the previous articles until *I* find it and 
I'll forward it in the mail, deal ? 

-- Stephen 

(The only two valid e-mail addresses from now on are ...)
afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov,  afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov
.. boring .sig follows, press n to skip it.

		Love shares at least *one* common trait with the Great
		White Shark. When it *stops* moving forward, it dies.
From: cl2g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Charles Anthony Leone)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: questions for net-men
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:42:42 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Senior, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

*********************************
     35002_2732@uwovax.uwo.ca writes:

> are you offended by photographs of scantily clad bronzed
> chippendalelike hunks? especially when they are used are
> marketing tools for certain  products? do you find them
> demeaning? are you threatened by them? do you feel as if you are
> pressured to conform to this image of "beauty"?
*********************************

They don't offend me at all.

I enjoy photos of scantily clad bronzed Neo-Playboy babes, including
when they are used as marketing tools. I'm sure their are women out
there who feel the same way, so if these hunks make them as happy as the
babes do to me, then all the better for them.

I'm not threatened by them, but I do feel pressured to conform to this
image of beauty. In fact, I'm working on it now.

________________
Tony L.

8^\)
________________
Newsgroups: alt.romance
From: grama@yoda.eng.hou.compaq.com (Sorin Grama)
Subject: Re: need feedback
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp. - Houston, TX
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:10:32 GMT


  >The problem is that he is a senior and graduates in 4 weeks. I on the
  >other hand am a freshman and have at least 3 and 1/2 years to go yet. I have
  >been the victim of bad long distance relationships. I want the relationship to
  >progress naturally but I also want to keep it going after he graduates. 


Actually, this could bring a nice twist to your relationship.
Think of every day that you spend with him as the last day 
you'll ever spend with him.
You could make the most of it!  :)

Right now I'm involved in a short-term relationship.  I know it will
be a short one for I'm going back to school in June.  She knows
this too.  We're not that serious (yet), but it's a lot of fun.
I do not restrain myself from having a great time with her.
If our _long_ distance (Houston -> Columbus, OH:  1400 miles !!!!) 
relationship will last I'll know I found the right woman.  :-)

... eh, just thinking with my hands on the keyboard ...

--
 _____                         +
/  _____  "I hate quotations." | grama@yoda.eng.hou.compaq.com
\_____  \         R.W. Emerson | 
   _____/  sg                  +
From: aatresa@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Teresa Kline)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa (Carp ????)
Keywords: Let's mind our own business
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:22:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: lims02.15APR199212222029
Organization: Yeah, *right* !
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <15APR199212081014@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov>, afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes...

>Oh, by the way, Teresa received a *really* abusive e-mail reply on this 
>thread.  I packed it up and forwarded it to the postmaster at the site it 
>came from, but in the mean time send her some hugs... it was really nasty.
> 

Thanks, buddy.  I *really* appreciate it.  But I thought I told you not to 
be nice to me today??!

By the way, that abusive mail might be why romance is dead on this planet.  
I don't think there was anything offensive or objectionable in the recent 
by-play between several of us, but some one decided to take something that 
was fun and playful and try to make it ugly.  No wonder we don't feel like 
trying anymore.

-- Teresa

		Life -- just for the FUN of it!!!!
From: htran@vax2.concordia.ca (HUNG TRAN)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: testing
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:14:00 GMT
Organization: Concordia University
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

hi, i'm testing 
bye, bye
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From: tyger@netcom.com (Kristen Kohlbecker)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: Ed and Teresa (Carp ????)
Keywords: Let's mind our own business
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:18:19 GMT
Organization: Cuz I'm a Blonde!

In article <kup5hfINN9hc@jethro.Corp.Sun.COM> erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp) writes:
>In article <15APR199212081014@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> afdenis@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:
>
>>Oh, by the way, Teresa received a *really* abusive e-mail reply on this 
>>thread.  I packed it up and forwarded it to the postmaster at the site it 
>>came from, but in the mean time send her some hugs... it was really nasty.
>
>Can I post it?  Pretty please??????

You can, but then the scumbunny that sent the mail would have every right to
go to your sysadmin and whimper. Whether it would get him anywhere, is, I
guess, another matter altogether. The main problem with the laws governing
computer stuff is that they seem to be protecting the wrong people...

For the record, I would post it for public ridicule/consumption, but then I
am on good terms with my sysadmin, so he wouldn't spank me too hard...:)

   Tyger


-- 
      Kristen Kohlbecker        If I gave you Diamonds and Pearls,
      kkohlbec@scueng.scu.edu   would you be a happy boy or a girl?   
      tyger@netcom.com          If I could I would give you the world,
                                but all I can do is just offer you
      A Tyger and a Lady        my love...    _Diamonds and Pearls_
From: haywire@banzai (Mark A Luchini)
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: Re: LOVE sucks. No question about it.
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:59:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: wpi.1992Apr8.165900.24864
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <1992Apr6.220822.1@pomona.claremont.edu> greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
>In article <92094.093606RJD118@psuvm.psu.edu>, RJD118@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>> LOVE sucks---unless you're in it.
>> No matter what you say....when you're really, truly in LOVE,
>> you can't say how much it sucks...cause it doesn't.
>
>You're absolutely right.  But which is "real"?  The way you feel when
>you're in love?  Or they way you feel after you lose it?  I would tend
>to say that both are "real", and that the final measure is the balance
>of the two.  In my experience, the pain outweighs the pleasure.  Others'
>experience may well differ.
>
>|  Greg Orman                               greg@pomona.claremont.edu  |
>|                      Live to ride, Ride to live                      |
>|    Would you like me to shoot you before or after I run you over?    |
From: joseph.wilkinson@matrix.sbs.com (Joseph Wilkinson) 
Newsgroups: alt.romance
Subject: RE: FANTASIES
Date: 7 Apr 92 23:57:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The MATRIX BBS - Birmingham, AL - 205-323-2016
Reply-To: joseph.wilkinson@matrix.sbs.com (Joseph Wilkinson) 

On this subject of fantasizing from afar about 'celebrities' we don't
know...does anyone besides me go for voices?  I'll confess, I used to
lust desperately after one of the House of Representatives reading
clerks, a dark-haired girl; do you know the one I mean?  It was her
voice.  When she read out the words, "and for other purposes," O, ye
gods...!