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Date:         Thu, 16 Apr 1992 13:54:00 EDT
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From:         BARB <DESCHAPE@DAYTON.BITNET>
Subject:      login from one server to another -- resolved!

My original question:
...
>> C, although I'm not positive about that.  When I am logged in to one
>> server as supervisor, and attempt to directly login to one of the others,
>> (without an explicit logout) my PC goes into convulsions -- it tries to
>> print screen over and over if the printer is turned on -- if the printer is
>> off it just beeps forever.  The reverse is not true -- if we are on the
...

Ray Todd Stevens answer:
>SEARCH DRIVES!!!!
>
>My best guess is that this id has a search drive that the other ids
>don't.  There is something in that serach drive that is getting run
>instead of login.  Also try replacing the login in the public
>directory if you have not done this yet as this is the one which will
>be run.

So a light in my head turns on -- I had ftp'd a "login.com" (text) file from
our vax to the supervisor's home directory, and forgotten to rename it.
I'm in the process of wiping the egg off my face right now.....

The results were still strange -- I would have expected that a text file
that was being treated as a program would have generated some sort of
error instead of doing infinite print screens.  Ah well,......

Thanks to Ray and others who sent their ideas.

Barb
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From:         SYSTEM@VAX1.SUNDERLAND-POLY.AC.UK
Subject:      attach problem

I have the following setup:

3 Novell servers (2 are 3.11, 1 is 2.12) on an ethernet with up to
4 HP bridges between a server and a workstation.

The problem:

after loading NET4 or NET5, I try something like
login serverjoe/kjhkjhf   (garbage username)

-> password: response is immediate.

I then do exactly the same thing again, and, the ethernet sits there
hammering away for 24 seconds (always the same length of time) before
coming up with password:

all subsequent attempts act this way until NETx is unloaded and reloaded.
after a failure, slist is also slower than usual with obvious activity
on the ethernet.

General ethernet traffic is light (<10%). I have tried fiddling with all
shell.cfg parameters that refer to counts/retries etc. without changing
the behaviour one iota.

The problem occurs on two different types of PC/ethernet adapter/ NET4 or
NET5. Also three different servers - the problem seems to lie in the
workstation shell ("dirtied" in some way?)

Monitoring the ethernet shows no network-type errors at all.

Any ideas folks?

Dave Webster
University of Sunderland
From: mark@iscsvax.uni.edu
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Subject: XNS SPP Packets
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:30:12 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Can anyone explain to me what an XNS Sequence Packet Protocl (SPP) packet is
and what generates this type of packet?  We have a workstation on our
token-ring network that will intermittently send a few characters of garbage
while directing output to a NetWare print queue.  The Sniffer reports that
while sending a NCP packet (which is writing data to the print queue),
occasionally at the same time (delta time between packets is 0) an XNS SPP
packet is sent.  I suspect that the XNS packet is damaging the data packet. 
Is the XNS packet directly linked with IPX or could it be related to hardware?

Configuration:  NetWare v3.11
                Token-Ring segment of network (4 mps)
                IPX v3.10 (911121), IBM Token-Ring v2.60 (901022)
                Workstation is an IBM PS/2 Model 50Z
                UTP Cabling
                XMSNETX v3.22 (910731)

One other question:  Where can I locate the v2.62 token-ring drivers to regen
my IPX?  Is v2.62 the most current?

I would really appreciate any assistance with this problem.

Thank you!
Marty Mark, University of Northern Iowa
319-273-6258
mark@iscsvax.uni.edu
From: smwall@COR4.PICA.ARMY.MIL (SFAE-AR-HIP-SY Stephen Wall)
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Subject: MAC S7 Tuneup LW & Novell NLM conflict.
Date: 10 Apr 92 18:44:09 GMT
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The Mac Laserwriter driver released with both 'System 7 Tuneup' packages
has an incompatibility with the Novell NLM for Novell 3.11 print server.
The symptoms are that when the job is printed, the postscript file downloads
to the server queue OK, but when it hits the top of the queue the server
generates a postscript exception/error and flushs the job.

Does anyone know of a fix for this problem, other than falling back to the
basic System 7 Laserwriter driver?  At present, that's what I'm doing, and
it seems to work OK, but I can't help feeling like there's something I'm
missing by not using the latest driver.  I've already asked my local
Novell guru, and she hadn't heard anything.

Please direct responses to my address <smwall@pica.army.mil>, as I don't
subscribe to this list.  If I get a good set of responses I'll post a
summary.  Finally, please don't flame me if this is near the top of the FAQ
list since I haven't been around this list.

Steve Wall  <smwall@pica.army.mil>  Picatinny Arsenal, NJ
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From:         GRG1678@VAX2.QUEENS-BELFAST.AC.UK
Subject:      Re: "Finger" on Novell

-Various

The sdutils package is available on splicer.cba.hawaii.edu (128.171.17.7) under
the novell/utility directory as sdutils.zip. The finger program is one of
several useful utilities. Its function is to find out which server a particular
user `belongs to' in an internetwork. It will check up to 500 in the process!

Tony Sheehan
grg1678@143.117.1.89

Queen's University, Belfast
Northern Ireland
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From:         COLBURN@UNCA.BITNET
Subject:      RISC/6000 & Novell

We're considering adding a RISC System/6000 to our Novell network.  We'd like
for users to have access to both systems, and we're trying to figure out the
BEST configuration.  We've met with IBM networking personnel, and have found
that MANY options are available... Please contact me if you have any such
configuration, and you have a few moments for me to ask you about it !!!

And, if you're anywhere near the Asheville area, we'd love a chance to visit
your site and see just how you have your system set up !!!  THANKS !!!!!!!!!

Joan Colburn
Mountain Area Health Education Center
(704) 257-4460

or 'write to me' at:
colburn@unca.bitnet
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From:         David Cappello <u4b08@LFKW2.BGM.LINK.COM>
Subject:      Re: Cabletron E2110
              Apr 14, 92 10:02 am

According to FUAD@acad.suffolk.edu:
>
> Hi Folks:
>
>    Is anyone currently using the latest release of the Cabletron E2110
>    Hard Array cards??.  I installed three of the cards into Everex machines
>    without a hitch.  However, installing the same card into a Zeos 386SX
>    hangs the system after executing IPX.
>
> Any suggestion will be appreciated!!!
>
> Fuad Yatim
> Systems Analyst
> Suffolk University
> Fuad@suffolk.edu

We had some problems with 2110/2119 cards call cabletron and ask for
REV E of their card.  There has/was an engineering change.

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From: harvey@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: Re: Booting remote with ODI shells
Organization: Indiana University
Date: 14 Apr 92 13:56:19 -0500

In article <9204141234.AA05144@techunix.technion.ac.il>, CERRLSS@TECHUNIX.BITNET (Shahar Steiff) writes:
>>
>> Recently I got to install ODI drivers and ODIPKT on a roomful of PCs using
>> a NetWare 286 server (v2.15).  The PCs are IBM model 30s with 3C503 cards.
>> The ODI drivers work fine from a floppy (both for NETX using IPXODI and
>> CUTCP using ODIPKT).  Attempts to boot from the proms using a bootable image
>> created using DOSGEN (and loading RPLODI after LSL) result in ">" chanracters
>> marching across the screen.  The PCs are running DOS 3.3 (we're not using[
>> RPLFIX).  The server as I mentioned is running NetWare 286 v2.15.
>
> I have no solution, but we share a simmilar problem. My PS2/30s have
> 3c501 cards with the 3c502 PROM and they won't boot from the PROMs as
> well. The local guru claims that those cards just can't boot from the
> PROMS (so why do 3COM sell theose PROMS ?). My solution was replacing
> the cards to W.D. cards and now it all works fine. The 3c501 cards serve
> those remaining XTs and PS2/30s that have a H.D. .

Well, 3C501s _are_ kinda obsolete.  3C501s can't receive back-to-back packets,
which tends to make things abominably slow.  The 3C503s that we have in this
particular cluster boot fine from PROMs using the old (2.15) SHGENed IPX and
NET3.  These are old AUI/thinwire 3C503s, not the newer Etherlink IIs.

I may be trying this again on another (more accessible) cluster in a couple
of weeks.
--
James Harvey
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From:         tmorris@ATHENA.SPH.UNC.EDU
Subject:      Re: Sitelock security hole
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You wrote:
>As an immediate fix, I wrote a quick (and dirty) C program to add
>station restrictions to this object, allowing only logins from the
>file server.  Mail me if you need a copy.

Chris,
        I would like a copy of this. We've just ordered SiteLock 3.2!
Thanks in advance.

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Computing and Information Services              tom@uncsphvx  (BITNET)
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From:         Richard Warner <ames!sjsumcs.SJSU.EDU!rick@HARVARD.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject:      re: Beaconing
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              13, 92 4:19 pm

>
> ...This is not really necessary, since the cards all have a unique (default)
> address burned into ROM that is broadcast onto the network.  I ran a large
> organization with LAA's and I was glad when I as able to get rid of them.
> They were an administative headache - and I have enough of those without
> adding one additional source.
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------
>
> They can be helpful IF they are used right.
>
> If you use the burnt in address, then you would have to maintain a data base
> of all the  numbers and map them to a name or a room number. This can be
> a headache  when exchanging cards; especially in a network with
> a large number of machines.
>
> We have come up with a notation by which we can  indicate the room number
> and the building in the LAA. This will remain constant even if the card is
> changed.
> When we have problems, by looking at the monitor we can tell the exact
 location
> of the problematic machine.
>
> dkazem@nas.edu
>

This does not work well if you are using LAA's to map PU's in VTAM.  Then
you have to use a specific set of LAA's .....  you cannot 'freelance'
your LAA's and they end up being as meaningless as the burnt in addresses.
We started the database, mapping ROM addresses -> users -> LAA's ->
VTAM ID's in the days when we were still doing that archaic stuff.  Then
when we went to a 3270 gateway, and could get rid of individual VTAM ID's
and therefore LAA's, we kept the database to map ROM addresses -> users.
Other fields include Bldg., room number, etc.   By the way, this was a
large network - a WAN - including dozens of servers and thousands of
nodes.

IF you keep up your database, the burnt in address is just as useful -
and, IMHO, keeping up the database is less of an administrative hassle
than administering the LAA's.  We had a large number of LAA related
headaches - my favorite is the user who tweaks his own CONIG.SYS (or
SHELL.CFG) and passes it around (including his LAA) to his whole workgroup.
Then only one person in that group can get on the net at any given time
and they wonder what I did to the network.  This was more frequent than
'beaconing' events, etc., and it is a headache that goes away once you
do away with LAA's.

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From:         RUSS@OSPNOV.VPRC.ASU.EDU
Subject:      Northgate EISA 486/33 as File Server
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I am looking at the Northgate 486/33 EISA with 32 MB of memory and 1.2GB SCSI
hard drive with a 32-bit RF5600 controller. Anyone out there have experience
with this machine? What experiences have you had with Northgate. Reviews in
PC Mag seem good. What do any Northgate users out there think.
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From:         Richard Warner <ames!sjsumcs.SJSU.EDU!rick@HARVARD.HARVARD.EDU>
Subject:      Re: BEACONING
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              "VALLEYD@ames.arc.nasa.gov" at Apr 8, 92 5:28 pm

>
> What causes Beaconing,  How does one diagnos which card is sending the beacon
> around the Ring,  how can I prevent/eliminate this problem and not have the
> Network come tumbling down???
> Need all the help I can get on this one.  I have had this problem for 2 wks.
> Thanks in advance,
> Dave Valley
> LAN Admin.  O.P.M. - I.A.D.I.A.D.
>

Other folks have told you some of the causes, but the easiest way I found
to identify the beaconing card was with the diagnostic that IBM packages
on the reference disk with their cards.  We put this on a DOS bootable disk,
and whenever we get a beaconing event we boot off this disk, run the test, and
it returns the address of the beaconing cards.  Of course, to decode this
you have to have a record of TRN addresses and the machines they are in.
I have been able to isolate a beaconing station in about 1 minute using this -
faster than pulling MAU's off-line.  (Madge's diags will do the same for you,
but they take a bit longer to fire up).

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From:         WEAVERB@WABASH.BITNET
Subject:      10BaseT spec question

Hello,

For some new 10BaseT runs we are planning, our purchasing dept. inadvertantly
purchased shielded twisted pair instead of unshielded twisted pair.  Does
anyone have comments on running 10BaseT over STP instead of UTP?  I have heard
different comments from different people, as to how well (if at all) this will
work.  Obviously, I don't want to intentionally run problematic cable, but
since we have the cable, I pose the question...

TIA,

Brad Weaver
WEAVERB@WABASH
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From:         BSMITH@KENTELIV.BITNET
Subject:      NCSA TELNET

I talked to the people at Cabletron about adding our VAX to the ethernet
cabling we have in place (RG58).  I want to be able to access the VAX from
any of our LAN terminals.

They told me I can do it with
     1) an ethernet card for the VAX
     2) their ST-500-03 transciever
               and
     3) NCSA Telnet software

They said that the software is shareware, but didn't mention where/how I can
get it.

Now, my questions:
     1)  Is this a workable solution?
     2)  Is anyone using this particular set up?
     3)  Any idea what this might cost? (these are lean times for all)
     4)  How does this compare functionally to TCP/IP?

Thanks in advance for your input.

Bob Smith
KSU-EL
BSMITH@KENTELIV
From: cmdbyk@pmvax.weeg.uiowa.edu (Karl Boyken)
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Subject: SCRIPT11.ZIP uploaded to splicer
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:19:00 GMT
Organization: State Health Registry of Iowa
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I've uploaded SCRIPT11.ZIP to splicer (128.171.17.7); it's in
files/novell/util.  SCRIPT11.ZIP is an upgrade of the Netware script
utilities formerly in SCRPTUTL.ZIP.

    ** _My_ views, no one else's--except those I plagiarize. **
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From:         DAYNA@UTAHCCA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Mac Classic and Ethernet

The Mac Classic is not capable of using and internal Mac ethernet
card. You must look into either a serial port to ethernet or a
scsi to ethernet device. Dayna Communications, Inc. has both
a serial to ethernet and a scsi to ethernet connection for the
Mac Classic. They can be reached at 801-531-0600 for any additional
information you may want. The scsi to ethernet connection is named
SCSI/Link and the serial port to ethernet product is named
DaynaPORT E/Z. Retail prices for each are around $399 but give
us a call to make sure.

Grant Jones
"Yes I work for Dayna Communications"
dayna@cc.utah.edu
801-535-4243
Organization: University Of Toronto Computing Services.
Date: Sunday, 5 Apr 1992 12:13:13 EDT
From: <SANDERS@vm.utcs.utoronto.ca>
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Subject: Re: B/R driver kit????

Henry,

The B/R Driver kit is:

Part #: 883-001655-001
Price : $250 US

Discount: 40% if ordered from Novell and you are a qualified Ed. Institiution


Terry Sanderson
Supervisor, Information Technology
University of Toronto Computing Services
sanders@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca
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From: SLENDT@athena.unomaha.edu (STEVE LENDT - C&DC NETWORK )
Subject: GetOriginalNameSpace Error.
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:21:34 GMT
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   I just moved our Netware 3.11 system with Netware for Mac v3.01 from
a 386 system to a 486 system.  All is working fine (amazing), but I'm
getting file server error log messages as follows:

x/xx/92 hh:mm:ss Severity = 2.
1.1.88 GetOriginalNameSpace could not find the originating name space.
The DOS name space was assumed.  You should run VRepair to fix this!

Ok, so I run VRepair on volume SYS, which must be dismounted first.
But with this dismounted it can't find the v_mac.nlm module, even
though I have it on my C: dos partition with the vrepair module.
And it is not happy with loading just v_mac before I unmount the
SYS volume.

Any suggestions?
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From:         Shirley Woods <KGSAW@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Subject:      Advice on Pegasus, MHS, and UGATE.

 *** Reply to note of 04/07/92 09:13
       Microcomputing & Communications Services
       ASU Computing & Network Consulting Services
 Michael,
 I'll do a little investigating on this and let you know what I come up
 with.  I think Pegasus is public domain stuff.....I get back with you on this.

 Shirley Woods (5-2708)
From: thomasg@epx.hscs.umn.edu (Thomas Gasser)
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Subject: Re: IPX Versions
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:03:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: epx.thomasg.475
Organization: Department of Neurosurgery, University of Minnesota

In article <9204091209.A00190@hematite.usnus.abb.com> Donald Underwood <dunde@HEMATITE.USNUS.ABB.COM> writes:

>Greetings:

>Has anyone seen why there were revisions to ipx.obj 3.01, 3.02, 3.04?  Is there
>a bug list for each of the object files?

>Thank you in advance

>Donald E. Underwood
>Systems Engineer
>ABB Combustion Engineering Nuclear Power

add to your list 3.1.  It came with windows 3.1

Thomas Gasser                                          
(612) 624-4427
Dept of Neurosurgery     
University of MN      
THOMASG@EPX.HSCS.UMN.EDU