HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: my2x@honi3.acc.Virginia.EDU (Munho)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Election result
Date: 19 Dec 92 02:46:47 GMT
Organization: The University of Virginia

In article <1992Dec18.230308.4697@seas.gwu.edu> won@seas.gwu.edu (Won Lee) writes:
>Hello
>
>Can someone post the current result of election ?
>
>thanks
>-- 
>_______________________________________________________________
>Won  Lee                     Dept. of EE&CS 
>won@seas.gwu.edu       The George Washington University

i heard, mr. ys (aka 032) won the election.  this is frm
ara bbs.  so i am not sure how reliable this is.  i don't
know exact number.
From: mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: From the poster of "DJ for President"
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:38:35 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <jahn.724454243@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu>, jahn@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (J
uhoon Ahn) writes:
>jfe@alchemy.tn.cornell.edu (Brian Chung) writes:
>
>>      If I vote for YS, I'll be voting for the evil that has been "tamed"
>>somewhat.  If I vote for DJ, I'll be voting for the evil that I really,
>>really don't trust.
>
>I would not vote for YS someone who jumps around here and there, as we
>say "Gan-E Boot-Eot-Da SSeul-Gae-E Boot-Eot-Da."  I believe that DJ
>put his effort to lead this country in peace and democracy.  However,
>YS used to be anti-government activist.  Now he is, I think, the head
>of the current government.  Well, Roh is the president of the country.
>But, he is over even though there still is the military force standing
>by.  I do *not* say that being officials is *bad*.  What I really want
>to say is that I woud *not* work for the government.  I would work
>*FOR* the country *AT* the government.  BTW, who would you trust
>between a person who was almost killed twice by the government, but
>still want to work for the country, or a person who is eager to be the
>president of the country whether he is on the side of the "government"
>he used to be against?  I honestly don't haven enough experience to
>say who is right or wrong.  I am just writing because I care about
>Korea.   BTW, if I want something "tamed," I would go for my dog
>even though I don't have one right now.  He will listen to me and
>obey me.  Would you want a president who will say "YES!" all the
>time or someone who can think?  I hope this election is *REALLY*
>held in peace and democracy without any military intervention.
>Thank you and have happy holidays.  An-Nyung-Hi Gye-Sip-Si-Yo!
>
>
>
>
>
>--
>Juhoon Ahn                 |He is my loving God and my fortress,
>jahn@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu |my stronghold and my deliverer,
>MB 942 Brandeis Univ       |my shield, in whom I take refuge,
>Waltham, MA 02254-9110     |who subdues peoples under me.(Psalm 144:2)
>
###############################################################################

Hi Juhoon:

Waoo !  This is a terrific statement to justify your claims.

I LOVE your discussion.

##############################################################################



                     Minho Jo, Lehigh Valley
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: changes? no.. not by President.
Date: 20 Dec 92 20:31:44 GMT
Organization: What Org?


	I've seen so many excited response of people towards the
	Presidental election.

	Even more, there seem to be a lot of expectation of changes
	in both Politics and Economy.

	However, I don't think he (YS) should be able to change anything
	dramatically by his will; and that's been the Political history
	of Korea which should go away.

	It should be very tough for him to change anything dramatically.

	I just don't want to see things change left and right everyday
	on the palm of President.
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
From: bf479@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell Jackson II)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: latest IPSM Election Market projections
Date: 16 Dec 1992 20:19:25 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bf479@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Russell Jackson II)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


.........................
Percent of Vote Share expected (Vote Share Market):
(average of latest day's trading as of 1:45 CST)
  
           YSK:  37.3 %
           DJK:  35.8 %
           CYC:  25.0 %
           CJP:   2.9 %
    All Others:   2.3 %

Expected Probability of Winning (Winners Market):
(average of latest day's trading as of 1:45 CST)

           YSK:  .708  or  2.423 to 1
           DJK:  .313  or   .456 to 1
           CYC:  .005  or   .005 to 1            
           CJP:  .001  or   .001 to 1
    All Others:  .000  or   .000 to 0

...............

I am not a representative of IPSM (128.255.44.2) and my interpretations do not
necessarily represent theirs.

Russell Jackson II
bf479@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: shin-jungshik@yale.edu (Jungshik Shin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: ARA Outage
Date: 21 Dec 1992 02:10:45 -0500
Organization: Yale University
NNTP-Posting-Host: minerva.cis.yale.edu

   This is a finger result from ARA.kaist.ac.kr.  

   Jungshik Shin


                ANNOUNCEMENT: ARA BBS IS CRACKED BY SOMEONE.

Dear ARA BBS users;

On December 20, around 14:30KST, all systems in SPARCS have been cracked by
someone. He intruded to ara.kaist.ac.kr and enabled EEPROM Password Security
Mode on all systems. Fortunately, I could recover the EEPROM of baram and ara.
But currently I cannot recover 2 machines of the SPARCS, the one of which is
our file server machine. He didn't touch any filesystems, only disabled
rebooting our machines.

Sorry that we cannot provide BBS service temporarily. I hope I can recover
our machines and thus restart BBS service as soon as possible.

We feel very sorry to BBS users.

TO ANONYMOUS CRACKERS;

If you have such a sufficient time to crack around the world, please go to
your room and sleep for ever. We are not babo, you're a human virus.



       System Programmers' Association for Researching Computer Science
From: mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: RE: ^^^^^^^^^^    S H O C K I N G    R E S U L T S    ^^^^^^^^^^^
Date: 20 Dec 92 23:24:24 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <20DEC92.06424190@don.waisman.wisc.edu>,
lee@don.waisman.wisc.edu writes:

>In a previous article, tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu wrote:

>>The only problem might be they have less charisma compared to DJ.

>Absence of chrisma is not a problem for democracy. It's really dangerous,
>indeed. Absence of a rational mind, on the contrary, is a real problem for
>democracy.


In respond to Hyungui's argument:


       I agree with both charisma and rational mind.  The Korea's

       plitical system is president-oriented.   The leader should

       be charismatic.   Recall the previous presidents.  For instant,

       Mr. Roh is not charismatic.  He has been in trouble ruling and

       persuading the people.   Rather,  the people call him

       Mul Dae-Tongryong (Water President).

       My point is that charisma of good sense is desirable.

       If charisma is used for the bad purpose,  another Hitler will

       come to us.

       Rational mind is also a basic capability for president.




                    Minho Jo,  Lehigh University
                    Computer Integrated Manufacturing Lab.,
                    Industrial Engineering
From: hnkst2+@pitt.edu (Hanhwe N Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Re: Re: DJ for President -- 2
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:41:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

swkim@csws17.ic.sunysb.edu writes:
>What I want to ask you is :
>
>1) Who do you want vote for?  If you don't like anybody, are you going to
>   give up the vote?
>2) If you are going to vote for someone, What is the reason?

Well, I can't vote even if I wanted to becasue they do not have
absentee ballots for people abroad. If you know of a way to get in
an absentee ballot, I'd be most grateful ir you can tell me.

As for who I'd vote for if I could I'd vote for whichever candidate
I feel is most likely to implement 3 reforms that I support:
1) Tax reform(sil-myung-je), 2) Land reform, and 3) Abolishing the
National Security Law and increasing safeguards for civil liberties.
These 3 are what I feel strongly about.

If I can't trust anybody to make the changes, I'd vote for candidates
who will support a constitutional amendment that makes it possible
for citizens to initiate legislation the way it is done in 
the State of California thorugh propositions and referendum.
Other than that I support candidates who will
who support a presidential system over those who want to have a
parlimentary system, and candidates who support free market economic
policies concerning liberalization of financial markets and farm
products. The priorities are in the order I mentioned.

>3) What is your expactation for next president ?

If you are asking if I'm optimistic about any of the reforms taking
place, I am not. I think what will probably be needed is first a
constitutional amendment for legislation by referendum and then
initiating the reforms through that channel. The problem is of course
that hardly anyone I have talked to thinks that legislation by
referendum is a workable thing.

I know little about Chan-jong Park, and among the others I have specific
reasons not to vote for each relating to the 3 reforms. Tenatively
among the others my order of dislike is YS Kim, CY Chung and DJ Kim. 

-Han Kim

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dletcher@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Drew Letcher)
Subject: Final Quotes for Korean Presidential Election Market
Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 17:24:17 GMT

   12/17/92 -- IOWA POLITICAL STOCK MARKET -- Final IPSM-KOREA Prices

   IPSM-KOREA is a market for financial contracts representing candidates
   for the December 1992 Korean presidential election.

   FINAL MARKET QUOTES:

   Candidate             VoteShare Market    VoteShare Prediction
   -----------------     ----------------    --------------------
   Kim Young Sam             $0.390             36.8%
   Kim Dae Jung               0.356             33.6%
   Chung Choo Young           0.250             23.6%
   Park Chan Jong             0.043              4.0%
   Others                     0.022              2.0%

   Candidate             Winner Market       Probability Prediction
   -----------------     ----------------    ----------------------
   Kim Young Sam             $0.660             64.7%
   Kim Dae Jung               0.350             34.3%
   Chung Choo Young           0.010              1.0%
   Park Chan Jong             0.000              0.0%
   Others                     0.000              0.0%

   For more information contact:

   IPSM, PHBA                 email -- IPSM@SCOUT-PO.BIZ.UIOWA.EDU
   University of Iowa         Phone -- 319-335-0881
   Iowa City, IA  52242       FAX   -- 319-335-1956

   IPSM Exchange:             telnet ipsm.biz.uiowa.edu   128.255.44.2

-- 
Drew Letcher            | IPSM - Iowa Politcal Stock Markets
Programmer/Analyst      | An automated trading system.
drew-letcher@uiowa.edu  | telnet ipsm.biz.uiowa.edu   128.255.44.2
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Subject: Re: Behavior.
Reply-To: tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 17:11:44 GMT

In article <Dec.16.10.59.46.1992.16817@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, junglee@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Jung S. Lee) writes:
>tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>
>
>>What??? What do you mean by saying three-or-more into the same 
>>bed room??? You mean they sleep together??? Hmm, I've never thought of that.
>
>	That's just lack of your imagination and desire to pursue it.
>	What's wrong with sleeping with multiple partners as long as
>	you practice safe sex, and all agree to it? And you don't cheat on
>	someone who you promise not to do so.
>
>>Well, I think I'm too conservative (or traditional).
>
>	Well, I will say you are sexually conservative. Sex life and
>	your mentality are two different things.
>
>
>Jung

O.K. You won.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Subject: Re: Orange-jok (MilGam-jok ?)
Reply-To: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 14:36:17 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.212305.11748@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> umin@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Un-Sig Min) writes:
>
>    I like 'MilGam' in korea because it can be peeled off easily.
>Apple and pear require a knife.  I thought MilGam is orange.
>In US, orange is not easy to remove shell.
>It takes 4 years to find(?) tanzerine is similar

Actually, "Clementine" is closer to "MilGam" than "Tangerine".

>  Does any body know which kind of orange is used to make 'Orange' juice which
>Orange-jok drink in korea ?

Some people pointed out to me that US itself is an importer of Oranges.  I
guess it comes from somewhere else.

>Sometimes I saw very different views in this news group. It could be cutural
>or educational background differences.  I hope everybody go extra miles to 
>understand others view points which is very strange to you. 

Amen.

>un-sig.
From: v123ptyu@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Sungwoo Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Connection Tel No. wanted.
Date: 12 Dec 92 13:56:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

Hello, everyone.
My name is SUngwoo Kim
I just want to ask if there's anyone who can inform me of
Korean BBS Tel Number which can be reached in Korea.
And if so, what procedure or precaution I must take prior to connection.
Thank you for your help.


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From: corvett@csa.bu.edu (Sungyeup Kim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Hanterm Fonts Install
Date: 20 Dec 92 09:23:59 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Howdy?
I'm tryiny to install hanterm on NCD-16.
To install fonts , I have to be super user, but I can't.
I asked to sys.admin, but no luck. =(
So I want to know how to install fonts without being super user.
I think there is the way to get around this, or trick or whatever.

Please somebody help me.
Thanks for any input ! =)
--
#include <stdsig.h>
/*
	Sungyeup Kim, corvett@csa.bu.edu
        Computer Science, Boston University
*/

Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim)
Subject: Re: Orange-jok
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 01:02:31 GMT
Organization: What Org?

In article <1992Dec14.163949.11987@news.acns.nwu.edu> andrew@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Andrew Sung Hyun Kim) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.083603.10159@eng.umd.edu> dskim@eng.umd.edu (Daeshik Kim) writes:
>>[....]
>>	You should not ignore those who worked hard to be rich;
>>	and they have every right to spend their money where they
>>	want to.
>>	Again, if there's problem, it must be how they became rich;
>>	but not where they spend their money.
>
>Well, I could suggest a few way of spending their money.

	And it should end as a suggestion; and you shouldn't blame
	them for their not following your suggestion.
-- 
	Daeshik Kim	H: (703) 273-1517 O: (703) 689-5878
	DAESHIK.KIM@sprintintl.sprint.com	dskim@eng.umd.edu
	/PN=Daeshik.Kim/O=SprintIntl/ADMD=Telemail/C=US/@Sprint.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Subject: Re: Don't Preach! (I : "Orange-Jok" Economy)
Reply-To: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Organization: Columbia University
Distribution: soc.culture.korean
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 03:19:57 GMT


In article <BzBA6A.4o5@news.cso.uiuc.edu> seo@capone.ccsm.uiuc.edu (Jong-Wook Seo) writes:
[....]

Papa Don't Preach?  :)

I am sorry, Reverend Seo.  Now, *that* was preach.

Andy Kim
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: park@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Yongsup Park)
Subject: Re: Reading HAN.* news group
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 03:21:03 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.025701.12774@news2.cis.umn.edu> seungwoo@exa.cs.umn.edu (Seung-Woo Kim) writes:
>server, it screws up your existing .newsrc file. I ended up with  modifying the
>source code of rtin so that it uses .knewsrc file instead of .newsrc file.
>The other way around is to backup your .newsrc file before you connect to
>the news server at kum or worak. Otherwise, you will get tons of bogus

You can use '-f' option when you start 'tin' to use news group file other
than default ~/.newsrc.
-- 
_______________________________________________________________________________
Yongsup Park               \    park@anmsd3.msd.anl.gov    /    Intentiolnally
Physics & Astronomy Dept.   \   park@casbah.acns.nwu.edu  /   left as a
Northwestern University      \  B40180@ANLCV1.BITNET     /   blank space.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Subject: Re: Behavior.
Reply-To: jgl7@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Andrew T. Kim)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:12:05 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.041450.7551@news.cs.brandeis.edu> tchoi@binah.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>Recently I read an article on sexual behavior in 'Nature' journal.
>For who don't read this journal, here I post some funny statistics.
>Some French investigators surveyed sexual behavior of 20,055 people.
>Here are some data (of age 18 - 34).
>	Age at first intercourse :     17    (Gee, I should be ashamed!)
>	Multipartner (1 year)    :     21%   (     speechless          )
>	Homosexuality            :     3.3%
>	Intercourse with prostitutes : 4.3%

I guess this is among French people.  For some reason, I have expected more
radical numbers.  It would be interesting if we can compare with these
numbers to US and Korea's, with broken down to sex.

>For more information, read the article (Nature, Vol 360. 407 - 412).

Andy Kim
From: umin@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Un-Sig Min)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Comment on election
Date: 20 Dec 92 18:31:00 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)


      I was very excited using 'finger .election*.'
But I can see only result of 18.x % counting. I saw someone would
post the result every hour.  Well, I was disappointed about this
promise.  I hope that President-elect 0-3 ( Young_Sam, Yesterday I played
tennis which game scores were three times of 0-3. :-) ) will not follow 
this kind of eating one's own words.   

     I guess that common Korean voter can make plan more comfortable with
0-3 rather than with DJ (some rapid change) or JY (JaeBul-president), even 
though 0-3 is not heart beating choice. 
   
Military-Officail will retire from higher position.  So prepare your resume
ready, if you are old enough over 45.  :-)   

Former president Park served his country until his death.
Former president Chun give his position to his firend who betrayed later.
Current president Rho give his position to civilian who may not betray
later.
Next civilian president will give his position to .........

I don't satisfy above way. But it is Korean democratic way. 
Let's be optimistic.                      

un-sig.
From: parkin@elm.egr.msu.edu (In Sik -)
Subject: Re: Who wins ?
Keywords: Election results in korea.
Organization: College of Engineering, Michigan State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 16:04:00 GMT

The expecting  results from MBC NEWS, but not final results, yet. 

YS KIM : Near 42 %
DJ KIM : Near 37 %
JY Chung : less than 20 %

More than 95 % for DJ, less than 5% for YS in HONAM area; 70 ~ 75 % for YS , 
10~15 % for DJ in YOUNGNAM area. Further news will be soon.

Above expectation is not assured, anything can be changed.
From: mj03@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (MINHO JO)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
Subject: Hi Russell - PLEASE POST IOWA ELECTION STOCK PRICES !!!
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:02:32 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University


Hello Russell:

We appreciate your posting the previous Iowa elction stock prices.
Could you post them until the Korean presidential election is over ?


PEOPLE EXPECT SOMETHING TO BE DRAMATICALLY CHANGED right AFTER
the election.

Take care, Russell
Newsgroups: soc.culture.korean
From: yang@luther.che.wisc.edu (Heewon Yang)
Subject: Re: our names were chosen along time ago
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 15 Dec 92 11:21:11 CST
Originator: yang@luther.che.wisc.edu

In article <734@blue.cis.pitt.edu> babar+@pitt.edu (Jonggu Moon) writes:
>I heard that our names    
>
> -family name- -first given name- -middle given name-
>
>were pre set a looooooong time ago by the clan patriarch.
>
>Every family, ( shin, park, kang, moon, lee etc etc )
>has some kind of really old book and whenever a child is born, 
>the parents go back to korea and look up what the kid's name should be.
 That is called _jok-bo_(lineage book?) which is one of frequent 
topics in s.c.k, I think.

>Also that one of those given names will be shared among
>all the sibblings so that
>generation Nth:    Lee Sang Cho,  Lee Sang Hwa, Lee Sang Kyu
>generation (N+1)th Lee Jun Ho,    Lee Chang Ho, Lee Jung Ho
>see how the generation given name alternates from first to second
>from generation to generation
 Those are called _dol-rim-ja_(circulating character or shared
character?). _dol-rim-ja_ used alternatively in given names ,i.e., 
if your father has it on the first character of given name,
you get it on the last one and your son again on the first. 

 And there is more about _dol-rim-ja_. Every _dol-rim-ja_ is made from
chinese character and each _dol-rim-ja_ follow _eum-yang-o-haeng-sul_
( five behavior theory of yin-yang?) : _soo_(water), _mok_(tree),
_wha_(fire),_to_(earth), and _kum_(iron).(<- hmm... sounds familiar from
captain planet:))

>- moon jong gu

-Heewon.
---
 Heewon  Yang				yang@luther.che.wisc.edu
 Dept. of Chem. Engr.
 Univ. of Wisconsin - Madison.