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From: elton@sybase.com (Elton Wildermuth)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Anti-censorship T-Shirts
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:23:52 GMT
Organization: Elf Hill Music & Mayhem Unltd.

In article <102360056@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com> bw@hpcvlx.cv.hp.com (Bill Wilhelmi)
writes:
>
> [...]  I personally don't think songs advocating the killing of police, 
>abuse of women, explicit sex, etc. ought to be sold to children.  Warning 
>labels are appropriate for this music.  

That's lovely, and you're quite welcome to your opinion.  By all means,
restrict the music that your kids can buy; but please don't try to
control what MY kids may or may not buy.  That's MY job, and I'll thank
all concerned to let me do it myself.

Too many bluenoses in this country can't tell the difference between "ought
not" and "must not", and cause an incredible amount of havoc and hard
feeling in their attempts to impose a one-size-fits-all morality on a
country that neither needs nor wants it.

>We currently restrict sales of Pornography to children.  We also have laws 
>to restict the choice of movies our kids might watch, laws forbidding the 
>sale of cigarettes to minors, and laws prohibiting the sale of alcholic 
>beverages to minors.  

It's also against the law to pay a professional to have sex with you, or
to ingest a large class of recreational chemicals, or to refuse to pay
your share of the salaries of the buffoons who impose these restrictions.

The simple existence of a law is no demonstration of its moral rectitude;
and the previous existence of one foolish law is not an argument in favor
of enacting further foolish laws in the same spirit.  Why is it so very
difficult for people to simply live according to their own morals, and
to allow others to do likewise?  And why are the good burghers of
Washington state hurt because their children learn a few Anglo-Saxonisms
from a rap record instead of on the schoolyard, or from their parents?

			-- Elton
From: poole@hpspkla.spk.hp.com (Gary R Poole)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Still looking for a fretless...
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:36:07 GMT
Organization: Hewlett Packard Company, Spokane, Wa.



Yamaha makes a four sting that retails for $299.  A fretless model is
availiable at the same price.

-Gary
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.music.progressive,alt.rock-n-roll.metal
From: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Subject: Re: Will the real ALT.MUSIC.PROGRESSIVE please stand up!
Reply-To: pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:21:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.142429.22253@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans) writes:
> Once again, "progressive" != "alternative".

Great. Now just define "alternative" and we'll all know exactly what
"progressive" is.
-- 

   -paul	pmartz@dsd.es.com
		Evans & Sutherland
From: scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: warning labels (was Re: Anti-censorship T-Shirts)
Date: 22 Jul 92 01:17:24 GMT
Organization: BASIS International, Ltd., Albuquerque NM USA

In article <1992Jul21.174845.3623@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans) writes:
>[playing devil's advocate about warning labels on albums...]
>
>But isn't rating a movie the same thing?  They look at it, and depending
>on what they see, they decide who can/cannot enter the movie.  Since many
>songs cover the same ground as an R or NC-17 or X (or whatever) movie,
>isn't it appropriate to rate them as well?

It is generally the same thing but our current movie rating system is
also a joke.  I strongly believe people should be able to know what 
they are buying before buy it.  A rating system will present that
information only from a subjective perspective.  That would be like
labeling canned food with terms like "unhealthy", "contains sweet
things", or "ickky" instead of listing the ingredients.  I 
don't see anybody putting warning labels on records because they
pander to Christian beliefs.  After all, there are people that would
be offended by lyrics promoting Christianity.  It all depends on
which group controls the rating process.

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                                     |  bliss.  Then it could be outlawed.
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From: doney@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Doney)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: HELP : looking for Guitar Teacher (DC/VA/MD area)
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:55:43 GMT
Reply-To: doney@oasys.dt.navy.mil (William Doney)
Distribution: dc
Organization: Carderock Division, NSWC, Bethesda, MD


Cheers.  As the subject line says, i'm looking for a guitar instructor
in the DC/n.VA/MD area.  i'm currently at the intermediate level (own 
assessment), and would like to improve (become a "real" guitar player),
etc.  only major qualifications (besides knowledge, etc.) is flexibility 
in scheduling, sense of humor, rock/blues/jazz area.  i have space in my 
home for lessons, but am willing to travel.  would prefer not taking 
lessons at a store, as i'd like all the money to go to the teacher.  
and i don't think stores are that flexible in lesson scheduling (you 
missed it, you pay anyway thing).

if anyone is interested, or can recommend someone, please email me.
thanks......

go to 11.....

bill
doney@oasys.dt.navy.mil
bethesda, MD
From: carls@Ingres.COM (Carl Stanley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Drum Machine Question
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:31:19 GMT
Reply-To: carls@Ingres.COM (Carl Stanley)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

I am thinking about buying a used drum machine within the next couple o
weeks for both practice (I'm a bass player) and a little home recording...

I saw a Yamaha RX-15 (I think it was called RX-15) in a local pawn shop
for about $200, but it came without the manual...

does anyone know if this is a good deal???

I appreciate any help I can get...

thx

carl stanley
ingres 
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar
From: gse9k@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Scott Evans)
Subject: Re: QUEENSRYCHE:  Unplugged on MTV
Reply-To: thrash@virginia.edu (Scott Evans)
Organization: or lack thereof
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:55:00 GMT


>I see your point, but number of people has nothing to do with
>"acoustic-ness".  Strings and singers, whether two or two thousand
>are still acoustic.  I (used to) like MTV unplugged because it strips
>the bands of most studio gloss and highlights the songs over the
>production.  Also, using only acoustic instruments often makes the
>songs sound alot more intimate, and gives the singer a better chance
>for subtle expression.


Yes, but I think in the case of a lot of pop singers, a fifteen-piece
backup band and eight backup singers is just a live version of
studio gloss.  The fact is, they need all that just to make it 
sound as decent as they made it sound in the studio.  Whereas
bands that get up there by themselves and go for it, well, they're
the ones that really get stripped of the gloss, I think.  

As for LL Cool J, you're right.  That was an absolutely 
incredible set, I thought.  And what'd he have?  Something
like a piano, acoustic guitar & bass, and drums.  I like.

I'd like to comment on Queensryche but *sniff* I didn't 
get to see it, and my *sob* brother didn't tape it.


s
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: mxmora@unix.SRI.COM (Matt Mora)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: A personal experience
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:57:33 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

In article <1992Jul22.154358.1834@cypress.com> sh@cypress.com (Steven Haigh/VDSP) writes:
>
>Go for it. Take auditions you may not be capable of and don't get pissed off
>if you fail. The experience of preparing for this audition taught me a lot
>about drumming, the music bussiness and yes, even life.

This reminds me  of a funny thing that happend to me. A friend of mine who
works for Capitol records, invited me to some industry party. I couldn't
make it but he went anyway. There was a band there that was signed but was
looking for another guitarist. My friend says: "My buddy plays guitar.
He's not in a band right now but he is doing a side project playing UFO cover 
tunes."  The guy said "Oh yeah? Does he have long hair?"

After my friend told me this I couldn't stop laughing. "Long hair". Not
"who does he play like" "does he have tone" 

Have we come to a point that we assume every one is a great player and
all we need to be worried about is looks?


Matt
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: etxjoos@kk39.ericsson.se (Johan Sahlin TT/RD)
Subject: Re: Zoom 9000 - I like it...
Organization: Ericsson
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:31:16 GMT

Is there anyone out there who has tried the ZOOM on bass?

Which model did you try and did it work OK soundwise??

	-Johan

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From: germond@popov.Eng.Sun.COM (Tom Germond)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: 4 track machines
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:29:10 GMT
Reply-To: germond@popov.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: popov.eng.sun.com

In article 54030011@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com, nunis@hpsgm2.sgp.hp.com (Simon Nunis) writes:
>hi everyone,
>
>well, its me again...this time, i am looking at 4 track machines.  ah, yes...
>the question (of course)...
>
>i was looking at the tascam 424 and sort of liked the idea that i can
>use 8 inputs + tape tracks for a final mix of 12 channels...
>
>then i saw some ad of a fostex x280...and i thought...hey it looks nice
>and i was wondering if it can handle 8 channels too?  also, can it work
>with microphones?  i basically want to carry this unit with me so it
>has to be relatively small (like the 424)...
>
>does anyone have any experience with these machines?  i would like to
>hear about anything you have to say...also, how do they compare when
>you need to sync with a computer sequencer?
>
>and i really need 8 channels...yes...and mics that is...
>
>thanks...
>
>simon  ;)

I have a Tascam 424. I use it with Vision as my sequencer. I have a Proteus
2 for orchestral sounds, a Kurzweill K1200 Pro 1 for rock sounds, a drum
machine, a Zoom 9030 for guitar (and some keyboard / vocal) effects, and
a Boss something-or-other for most vocal and keyboard effects. Even with
the extra inputs at mixdown time, there's never enough inputs. And using
a single track for SMPTE, there's not enough tracks with only three left.
The problem is when you have an "almost good enough" performance that you
don't want to trash when you're going for that last bit o' soul. Three is
definitely not enough.

I have no problems locking SMPTE to my sequencer. People have told me that
there is a bug in Version 4.1 of Vision that makes punching in and out
not lock up properly, but I don't do any punching, so it hasn't bitten me
yet. The 424 can defeat the DBX on track 4 so that you can stripe SMPTE
on it, but their direct input in the back of the machine doesn't allow you
to set the level, and the SMPTE from my Opcode Studio 3 comes out so hot
that it bleeds through all 4 tracks if I come in the way the Tascam wants
it. So, I just bring the SMPTE in through the mixer, set the EQ flat, and 
set the level down real low -- something like -4 DB. I'd have to read the
Studio 3 instructions again to tell you exactly what works. But once I
figured that out, I have no problems at all.

I'm looking to upgrade to 8 tracks, but I'm trying to decide whether I
want to go analog or digital.

Hope this helps.

Tom
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: johann@nevada.edu (Jason W Cathcart)
Subject: "The Love Boat" lyrics wanted...asap!
Originator: johann@helios.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System, Computing Services
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:00:02 GMT

I need the lyrics to the TV show "The Love Boat."
I can't remember all of them...
I would appreciate your email of whatever lyrics you know.

mail to:

	johann@nevada.edu

thanks.
From: pete@wlbr.iipo.gtegsc.com (Pete Lyall)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: New Zoom 9002 Footpedal
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:23:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: wlbr.1992Jul23.182344.3956
Organization: Contel Federal Systems

I have a ZOOM 9002 footpedal, and it's exactly what you think it is: a
floor version of the 4 patch switch that comes with the ZOOM.

Being able to switch patches without stopping playing is a plus, but
now you'll notice something: it takes about a second for the ZOOM to
toggle between setups. Before, any time it took your fingers to make
the button push would have masked this.

Also - you CANNOT change BANKS with the unit... only the four patches
in the current bank.

Pete

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right outta my hair. And sometimes, it's not so easy ..." J. Hendrix/My Friend
From: bediako@acsu.buffalo.edu (Bernard Bediako)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: bass wanted
Date: 31 Jul 92 15:00:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: UB


Bass Guitar wanted:

	Not looking for anything in particular,  so if you're thinking of 
selling, please reply.....

thanks
From: aieta@ils.nwu.edu (Michael Aieta)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Insuring home studio equipment?
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:42:29 GMT
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences


Metropolitan Life (property and liability)
insures me for $5K of 'scheduled'  professional gear in and out of the house,
covers all my personal property (non-pro) for $260/yr.

Fortunately I haven't had to file a claim yet, I'd like to
hear from someone who filed a claim for gear.
From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 15:49:53 GMT
Subject: Re: Mail-Order Microphones ?
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers

Sam Ash has had both 57's and 58's for under $100 for about six months (at
least) now.  This was before the rebate started, as far as I know.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: poirier@bnr.ca (Daniel Poirier)
Subject: Does anybody have the address for Peavey?
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 11:42:32 GMT


The title says it all... I need to get in touch with the
customer service department of Peavey regarding a problem with
an amp I have, and which popped up, you guessed it, twelve
days after the warrantee expired. If you know the address,
please post or send me email. Thanks...

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From: bm495@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Moore)
Subject: Never Ending Story Music
Reply-To: bm495@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (David Moore)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 01:20:53 GMT

Does anyone know who did the "theme song" to the movie "The Never Ending Story
Part 1"? I would like the name and artist... Thanks in advance.

dmoore@tso.uc.edu
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From: gt9045a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian Minsk)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Robert Cray model Strat
Keywords: guitar Robert Cray Fender Stratocaster bitchin'?
Date: 24 Jul 92 21:26:50 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I have a friend who is seriously considering getting a Robert Cray model
Strat.  One concern he has is that his hands aren't large like R. C..

Does anyone have any opinions/advice on the Robert Cray Strat?

Please try to reply via email.

P.S.  Could someone please post this to alt.guitar?  I can't post to alt.* 
groups.

Thanks-- 
Brian Minsk
Center for Human-Machine Systems Research
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
Internet: gt9045a@prism.gatech.edu       BITNET: IMPHDAA@GITVM1
From: tony@scotty.dccs.upenn.edu (Anthony Olejnik)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Request for help with EH's Electric Mistress flanger
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:02:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


I have just been given  broken Electro Harmonix Electric Mistress
Flanger/Filter Matrix (the regular battery powered one, not the Deluxe 
AC powered version).

My problem is that the battery wires hve been broken off from the
circuit board and I'm unble to determine where I should solder them to.

It looks like the flanger takes 2 batteries, though only one of the two
leads from the battery  connector that I do have is attached to the circuit
board.

QUESTIONS:  How may batteries does it take?
            (assuming its 2 batteries), where on the circuit board/jacks are
            the 4 wires soldered to?
            Where is the red wire from the footswitch soldered to?
            (there`s both a red and a white wire coming from one side of
             the switch.  the white goes to the `AMP' connector, however
             the red one is just hanging there).

Any help would be *GREATLY* appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

--tony
From: cmi@oracle.uucp (Eileen Riley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: 8-track query, summary
Keywords: 8 track recorders
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:20:04 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

I have the Tascam 238 8 track machine. It records 8 tracks on standard 1/4 inch audio tape. It is a very nice machine - 98db of headroom, and I get *no* crosstalk if I stay within that range. Other features are lock to external driver, sync to MIDI (which takes up track 8), 2 memo points, and auto roll/auto punch in, which is great for single recording sessions. I also has an available external controller.

For what I paid for it ($800) I am ecstatic. Note that it needs an external mixer, and plenty of effects if you want something decent, but hey, waada ya want fer yer measley $800?

Jon Barron
Oracle
From: dang@cserver.plexus.com (Dan Gardner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: WANTED: Drivers for stage monitors
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:58:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: cserver.dang.711827916
Organization: Plexus Corp. -- Neenah Wisconsin


Does anyone have any experience building monitors for vocals.
I'd like to design and build enclosures for a group of 
local musicians.  We are interested in companies that sell
the drivers and supply the suitable specs.  We have a fair
amount of enclosure design experience.  Who sells drivers 
designed for PAs and stage monitors?

Thanks in advance!


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From: mikek@iex.UUCP (Mike Keilhofer)
Subject: Looking for Cassette Test Tape
Organization: IEX Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:19:57 GMT

Can anyone tell me where I can buy a test and alignment tape for
Cassette players. I had been told that Abex Labs sold them
but find their number out of service.

Michael K.

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IEX Corporation           
Plano, Tx
Email: [uunet!]iex!mikek or mikek@iex.com
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar
From: ccb@axemax.zk3.dec.com  
Subject: Re: What's happening with Fender amps?!
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Nashua, NH
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:38:18 GMT

 Wow Dave -

	Not so fast... I agree that the Fender solid-state amps sound
pretty dry but I gotta disagree about the new Twin. The main problem 
the twin has is that you have to put in some major time learning how
to work the knobs before you find the good Fender tones. The current
generation of Fender tube gear (Twin, Super60, Super 210, etc.) sound
pretty good, especially compared to some of the early 70s pieces. And
the prices are pretty competitive with other domestically produced tube
gear.

	For solid state gear there's a lot of people that have Fender
beat, especially Peavey.

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From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Subject: Re: Mungo Jerry = Robert Palmer ?
Organization: Logic Modeling Inc of Beaverton Oregon
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:34:40 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.140432.26166@news.media.mit.edu> ben@media.mit.edu (Benjamin Kline Lowengard) writes:
>In article <11636.9207301058@thor.cf.ac.uk> scogpw@thor.cf.ac.uk (Gordon Walker) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul29.054632.17654@cs.ucla.edu> gds@cs.ucla.edu (Greg Skinner) writes:
>>|In article <19920727200732.9.TOROSIAN@GANESH.MCC.COM> ai.torosian@mcc.com (Dan Torosian) writes:
>>|>Last weekend, another musician at a gig told me that "Mungo Jerry"
>>|>(early 70's? one-hit wonder with 'In The Summertime') was actually
>>|>Robert Palmer.  Anyone else (like Brian Rost maybe) know about this?
>>|>|Mungo Jerry is the name of a band, not a person.
>
>When my sister came back from School in England in 1970 she returned with
>Mungo Jerry's In the Summertime. It was quite controversial there, I was

	Off the subject, sort of, but is it really MUNGO Jerry?  I seem to remember
	it as FUNGO Jerry.  Dunno, it could just be me...


	Larry "Some brain cells still intact" Huntley
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