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Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 16:42:06 EDT
From: Matthew E. Bernold <MEB117@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,alt.sb.programmer
Subject: Re: PC: Reading Amiga disks - HELP!
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In article <46uY02sP24lE01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, wdc50@cd.amdahl.com (Winthrop D
Chan) says:
>
>In article <1992Sep30.172827.7814@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>,
>spc@pineal.sci.fau.edu (Sean 'Captain Napalm' Conner) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep29.052642.13360@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu>
>>hertlinw@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (William E Hertling ) writes:
>>>In article <1992Sep28.211737.6176@cybernet.cse.fau.edu>
>>wolfsond@cse.fau.edu (Daniel Wolfson) writes:
>>>>
>>>>No can do!  Stop your seaching, it is impossible to read an amiga
>>formatted
>>>>disk on a PC..  Of course an Amiga can read an msdos formatted disk
>>(720k only)
>>>>
>>>>Sorry for the bad news...
>>>>
>>>>Dan
>>>
>>>Sorry Dan, but it IS possible to read Amiga format disks on the PC.
>>Some
>>>time ago someone wrote a shareware program to run Amiga text-only
>>graphics
>>>on the PC. It was able to read Amiga disks. I've never done it myself,
>>but
>>>on the other hand, I stuck DOS type disk drives in my Amiga, and they
>>>worked fine, so the drives themselves are compatible (unlike MAC-PC,
>>>which requires additional hardware on the part of the PC).
>>Unfortunatelyu
>>>I no longer have this software, nor do I remember the name of it.
>>>
>>  Sorry Bill, but it is NOT possible to read Amiga format disks on the
>>PC.
>>While it is possible to read MS-DOS disks on the Amiga, it is only
>>because
>>it is relativily easy to re-program the disk controller on the Amiga to
>>do
>>so.  It is not so on the PC, because the controlling hardware
>>different.
>>
>>  On the Amiga, the hardware controller can read in an entire track in
>>one
>>revolution, so it can do away with most of the sync-ing and sector
>>information that needs to exist on the disk for a PC diskdrive to work.
>>Why
>>do you think that the Amiga disks can hold 880K+ worth of data while a
>>regular PC disk can only hold 720K? (for a total difference of 160K in
>>favor
>>of the Amiga).
>
>I don't know all the exact specifics of how the Amiga handles it's drives, but
>NOTHING is impossible. A few examples being MacInDOS which lets you read and
>write MAC format diskettes which use Fixed linear velocity (the media below
>the
>head moves at a the same velocity no matter where the head is, so the platter
>adjusts it's speed depending on head position). PC's use Fixed Angular
>velocity
>which means the angular velocity is the same thruout and thus the platter
>speed
>is constant.
>
>Another is several format programs such as VGACOPY which patches bios to
>let you
>format 3.5" disks upto 1720k!
>
>When someone is determined, there's always a way to monkey a solution
>out. Might
>not be fast, but hey, it works. :-)
>
>cheers
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Ok, time for me to stick in my $0.02  :-)

The MacInDos program you refered to can only read high density Mac formatted
disks, not 800k disks, because the hardware in the PC is incapable of handling
the variable speed that the mac drives spin the 800k disks at without extra
hardware.  From what I understand, the Copy II PC deluxe option board allows
one to read/write to ANY mac disk by replacing or augmenting the disk
controller and allowing variable speeds on the drive.  I don't know about
Amiga disk compatibility with the deluxe option board, but I do know that it
is impossible to read either 800k mac or 880k amiga disks on a PC with a
STANDARD floppy controller, clever programming or not.

       Matthew E. Bernold             MEB117@PSUVM.PSU.EDU
         <<APOCALYPSE>>                  meb@haydn.psu.edu