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From: murray@rocky.raleigh.ibm.com (Charlie Murray)
Subject: Re: Beer recipe
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:43:05 GMT
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Organization: IBM, Research Triangle Park, North Carolina
Keywords: stout

In article <.222.724611113@hal.physics.wayne.edu>, @hal.physics.wayne.edu writes:
|>  I'm getting ready to brew another batch a beer and would like some 
|>  new ideas. has anyone got a good recipe that he would like to share?
|>     Dan

You may already know this, and if you cross posted, please disregard, but
you should post homebrewing questions to rec.crafts.brewing as r.c.b is
devoted to homebrewing.  Here in alt.beer, although a lot of people here
are homebrewers, it is more of a side line topic.

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From: brown@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Dan Brown)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Black & Tan - was Re: Help
Date: 17 Dec 1992 01:37:45 GMT
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Keywords: And a Green Mamaba, too

In an earlier posting canderso@nyx.UUCP (Chuck Anderson) writes:
>> mliau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Alvin K Liau) writes:
>
>>1.	How do you mix a half & half, and
>>	how do you mix a black & tan. 
>
>I've noticed the topic of Black & Tans coming up lately and I thought I'd
>point out that you can't make them at home (unless that's what the "Guiness
>in a can with nitrogen" is for, AND you can get it).
>
>I tried a number of times to make a Black & Tan at home, to no avail. The
>Guiness and ale just mix together.  You need nitrogen to make the Guiness
>float.

Sure you can make a black and tan with bottled stuff.. 

First off, many people call Guinness mixed with a lager, a black and tan,
whether or not its separated. 

Secondly, I have been able to keep the layers... The most recent attempt
was with the remaining 3/4 of a bottle of Old Depot Lager that I didn't
want to drink as is, but couldn't bear to waste either. 

I cheated and used a spoon, but was able to get the task done. It isn't 
easy. I have been working on it for a while, and have only recently been 
able to get them to stay separated. 

Try a short, wide glass. Use a spoon to keep the Guinness from pouring
straight into the lager. Pour VERY VERY VERY slowly... watch out though,
because the Guinness will then tend to dribble down the side of the bottle.
A half empty bottle of Guinness seems to work better than a full one. 

One thing I have considered, but not yet tried is using a measuring cup 
or something else with a little dent in the lip to help pour. Too bad I
don't have any lab glass... an beaker or a graduated cyclinder would probably
work well (if it was clean!). 

Course now... I wouldn't mind trying with a Nitrogen tap if someone was
to give me one. (where is that Christmas list... I need to add something
to it! ;-)


Later.
Dan


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From: exuptr@exu.ericsson.se (Patrick Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Pete's Wicked Ale
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:46:58 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.
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              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <1992Dec12.214719.1853@msus1.msus.edu> mdempsey@msus1.msus.edu writes:

>BTW, if anybody wants there own beer, if you can afford 100 or so barrels at a
>time, Schell's might just do it for you. Also, they have often put different 
>labels on their regular beer. The oddest one was something like 100 cases for
>a wedding. John and Mary Jones Wedding beer. Kinda cute.. They used to brew
>all kinds of strange stuff, mostly in cans but it is prohibitively expensive
>to but just a few thousand cans now that they have pretty much quit making
>a lot of those type of contract brews. Mostly keg stuff now.

>Later,

>Matt

>mdempsey@mnsmc1.mnsmc.edu

Are they the guys that bottled the generic BEER?
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From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: A Real Beer
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 01:30:21 GMT

jefforca@cnsvax.uwec.edu writes:

>Boy, are you people could only try some real beer.  The best beer on th face of
>the planet has got to be Leinenkugel's.  "A Legend in the Brewing Since 1867"
>and brewed in Chippewa Falls, WI.  This beer is thick and hearty and takes a
>real man to drink.

>Drop all your child beers, Miller, Bud, Pabst ... and send out for some real
>stuff.

You evidently have never visited Oregon and had the pleasure to drink a local
microbrew beer by the name of Terminator Stout!  I've visited places all over
the world, sampled many, many beers (especially in Germany and the Neatherlands),
and now brew my own stuff, but NOTHING, repeat NOTHING, comes close to the
potency of Terminator.  The name REALLY says it all.  It also takes a real
beer-drinker to drink, men and women BOTH included!!

allen
Subject:  Need Recommendation for Microbrew Available in NJ
From:  fred@slayer.bellcore.com (Fred Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Organization: Bellcore - Information Technology, Morristown, NJ
Reply-To:  fred@slayer.bellcore.com (Fred Anderson)
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Date:  Wed, 16 Dec 92 10:39:02 EST
To:  news-post@ctt@thumper.bellcore.com
Message-ID: <1992Dec16.154221.2589@ALEX.ims.bellcore.com>
Newsgroups: alt.beer

I have been reading about all these great microbrew beers but
don't seem to be able to find them in New Jersey. Can anyone
recommend any stores (pubs or what ever) in Central New Jersey
that carry some good micro brews?

My mouth is watering!

Thanks,

Fred Anderson
Bellcore
fred@charles.bellcore.com




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From: dbayer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Daniel L Bayer)
Subject: Re: Anchor Steam Christmas Ale
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 04:29:57 GMT

I tried it last Friday too (have two left over).  It is indeed very smooth and 
quite delicious --  BUT it retails here in Columbus, Ohio for $8.99 per six.  I
am sorry to offend any Anchor Brewing faithfuls,  but for that price I'd much 
rather get a six of Royal Oak Ale,  which is much smoother and full bodied.  
Anyone else thing 9-something per six is gouging?  BTW I also bought and tried 
a six of Oldenburg (Ft. Mitchell, KY) Winter lager.  Not nearly as good as 
Anchor,  but at half the price,  very much worth it.  Dan.

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From: f_cnnghamjk@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Black & Tan - was Re: Help
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:44:35 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

In article <1goll9INNrdn@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, brown@odin.ins.cwru.edu (Dan Brown) writes:
> In an earlier posting canderso@nyx.UUCP (Chuck Anderson) writes:
>>> mliau@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Alvin K Liau) writes:
>>
>>>1.	How do you mix a half & half, and
>>>	how do you mix a black & tan. 
>>
>>I've noticed the topic of Black & Tans coming up lately and I thought I'd
>>point out that you can't make them at home (unless that's what the "Guiness
>>in a can with nitrogen" is for, AND you can get it).
>>
>>I tried a number of times to make a Black & Tan at home, to no avail. The
>>Guiness and ale just mix together.  You need nitrogen to make the Guiness
>>float.
> 
> Sure you can make a black and tan with bottled stuff.. 
> 
> I cheated and used a spoon, but was able to get the task done. It isn't 
> 
> -- 
> Dan Brown	
> brown@ins.cwru.edu

I use a large glass in the style of a '50s Coca-Cola glass. Pour one Harp Lager
so that it heads up well.  Stuff a liquor spout in the Guiness bottle and pour
in a circle. Works like a charm (almost) every time.

Think I'll cut loose and have one now...

Randomly, Kelly Cunningham
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From: palou@osnome.che.wisc.edu (Ignasi Palou-Rivera)
Subject: Re: Corona and Mexican Beer
Organization: University of Wisconsin-Madison, Chemical Engineering
Date: 18 Dec 92 16:19:37 CST
	<1glbqsINNouh@menudo.uh.edu> <BzFywJ.BG9@nic.umass.edu>
In-reply-to: danco@titan.ucc.umass.edu's message of Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:19:30 GMT

In article <BzFywJ.BG9@nic.umass.edu> danco@titan.ucc.umass.edu (DANIEL F COHEN) writes:

>   Linguistic question:  Negra Modelo -- can someone tell me why we have a 
>   feminine adjective modifying a masculine noun?
>
>   --Dan//a bit too far north, and a helluva lot too far east

In Spanish the word 'modelo' can be a masculine or a feminine noun.
It's one of the exceptions that don't change the termination to -a in
their feminin form.

Ignasi.

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From: dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com (Dewey Coffman)
Subject: Re: New Celis Beer(Grand Cru) Available
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:12:20 GMT
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Organization: IBM, Austin, TX. US of A.

In article <1git5qINNi8g@menudo.uh.edu>, ST1T0@jetson.uh.edu (Carl Seiler) writes:
|> In <Bz9MEn.1DCz@austin.ibm.com> dewey@vpdbox.austin.ibm.com writes:
|> 
|> >  	I talked to the people at the Celis brewery on Friday, 12/11/92
|> >  	and they said that the new Celis (Grand Cru) should be on the
|> >  	shelves this week(in Austin anyway). No doubt on tap at several
|> >  	local pubs.
...
|> >  	the Governors office yet to voice your opinion in support of the 
|> >  	BrewPub law change in Texas that is being considered?
|> >  	Contact me for more details.
|> 
|> I was wondering if you could comment on the rumor that Celis has 
|> lost their distributor in Texas.  Several folks around here have said 
|> that Celis will be discontinued in the pubs here in Houston.  Some 
|> pubs are selling it at $3.75 a pitcher to get rid of the stock (I 
|> haven't been able to confirm this or find out which bars even have 
|> this beer at such a ridiculous price).  Do you know if bottles will 
|> still be distributed?  I like the White much better on tap, myself.
|> 
|> Let me and other Texans know.
|> Carl
	This is apparently true, I called the Celis Brewery (512) 835-0884
	and they didn't wish to comment about that. They did tell me their
	new distributor is CenTex Beverages (512) 441-0988.
	Ditto on the Celis White, I like a Anchor Steam before or after
	the Celis White, Kind of a spice beer potpouri.

	-dewey
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From: zedaker@next01pg2.wam.umd.edu (pmw)
Subject: Beer Expo/D.C./Saturday/My God!
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 13:45:12 GMT


I attended the Beer Expo on Saturday in D.C.  Wow! Once again it was great  
fun to be had!

Tried a hombrew--chocolate stout--excellent!

--Pam
From: birmingh@fnalf.fnal.gov (Phillip J. Birmingham)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Weiss bier
Date: 14 Dec 92 21:55:58 -0600
Organization: Blackriver Recorporations, Inc.
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In article <1992Dec13.061145.26270@midway.uchicago.edu>, dunl@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Dude Man) writes:
> Speaking of Weissbier s, anyone know if Paulaner's Hefe-Weissbier is 
> imported into the USA?
> I've seen their Oktoberfest and "Salvator" beers, but never the Hefe-Weiss.

         Why, just last week, I quaffed a Paulaner Hefe-Weizen, in my
    ongoing effort to see if there exists a wheat beer I can enjoy
    (unsuccesful so far.)

         Anyway, if it's out here in the 'burbs, you can bet it went
    through Chicago.

-- 
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 I don't speak for Fermilab, although my mouth is probably big enough...
From: sce4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Ernst_Guy)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: keg size
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:44:29 GMT
Reply-To: sce4350@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

I agree with the previous post.  I didn't know the exact gallon
amount, but have long used 170 12 oz. beers as a measurement of
how many beers are in a 'half keg'.

Beer balls are supposed to have 55 12 oz. beers.  That's just over 5-1/8 
gallons.  I think they are the worst package for beer ever designed.
If you're going to buy a beer ball, why not just get a 1/4 keg ??  It's
only about 20 or so more beers, it keeps the beer better and the package
is 100 % reusable.

Anyone else on beer balls ?


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From: jess@gvlf4.gvl.unisys.com (slim Pickens)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: American beer all sucks
Date: 15 Dec 92 15:04:01 GMT
Organization: Paramax Systems Corporation, Paoli PA

In article <15DEC92.00655299.0059@UNBVM1.CSD.UNB.CA>, V5WA000 <V5WA@UNB.CA> writes:
|> Do You idiots actually get drunk off that water you call beer?
|> Here in Canada, Labatts rules.  I'm not being biased
|> because it's Canadian.  It's just better.  I like to know when I'm drink
|> drinking and it doesn't take 10 to 12 bottles before you get
|> a buzz (like all American beer)
|> 
|>  Feel free to respond
|> 

I agree that almost all American beer for the masses sucks.  Large American
beer producers do not have an exclusive on that- Mass produced middle of the
road style beers from anywhere (including canada) suck in general.

I submit that you could add a few ounces of ethanol to anyones beer
and get the buzz you are apparently after. Better yet just drink the ethanol.--
Or try Sterno.

You Have missed the point here, if you drink to get drunk.  Quality crafted
or micro- produced beer consumers dont evaluate products on alchohol content
alone.--

Maybe try alt.buzz or alt.sniff.glue or alt.whipped.cream.propellant.


Slim Pickens 
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: amc003@acad.drake.edu
Subject: Hefe in the US, radler
Organization: Drake University, Des Moines, Iowa, USA
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:08:36 GMT

I did come across some german Weiss beir in a german restaraunt in Minneapolis
(The BlacK Forest Inn) but it was like $4 for a half liter that probably cost
$1 in Germany...I think it was brewed in Muenchen, but it was a good Hefe.

	And beer with lemonade...In Bavaria especially beir is mized about
half and half with a clear lemonade...It's like lemonade flavored mineral water
and this is called Radler. It is very common in the summertime, and can even 
be purchased by the liter in the Muenchen beirgartens.
amy
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: scarrobi@shearson.com (Steve Carrobis)
Subject: Re: NYC Pubs/Brewpubs
Reply-To: scarrobi@shearson.com
Organization: Lehman Brothers, Inc.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:48:57 GMT

you want to go to Mcsorley's Ale House and Brewsky's 
they are both located on East 7th Street between 2nd and 3rd Aves.
any question pplease fell free to email me.

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From: schuyler@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (S. Schuyler Stultz)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: MORE beer and lemon!
Summary: lemonade and beer
Keywords: This article printed on 100% recycled electrons
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:21:59 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

I have no basis for this, but my freshman year here at VA Tech (yes, I was
gullible, but wait) a friend of mine poured beer and lemonade half and half.
When I poked fun at him he said it was commmon in England.  Well, at the 
time the farthest I'd ever been in my life was to Atlanta, so I kind of
believed him.  I tried it and it wasn't terrible, not good, but not terrible.
Then this past summer I went to France to visit a cousin studying at the 
Univesity of Nice.  When we went out one night one of the ladies in our
group had a bottled version of this "bier limonade."  Is this a "common"
practice in Europe?  The closest I've seen to something along these lines
here in the moutains of Virginia is the red-eye (shot of tomato juice in beer.)

Also, There's been some discussion of the fact that Heineken is praised here
in the states and not held in such high reguard in Europe.  What about
Becks?
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From: ST1T0@jetson.uh.edu (Carl Seiler)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Corona and Mexican Beer
Date: 14 Dec 1992 20:46:58 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
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In <exuptr.387.724351341@exu.ericsson.se> exuptr@exu.ericsson.se writes:

>  In article <1992Dec12.230901.1@acad.drake.edu> kns001@acad.drake.edu writes:
>  
>  >In all the talk I've seen here abt. Mexican brews,
>  >nobody's mentioned Simpatico, which I really like - has anyone else tried it?
>  >(comes in a nifty black bottle...)   
>  
>  >Karissa S.
>  
>  What about Negra Modelo?

Most of the comments that I have heard about Negra Modelo is that it 
has a smoky taste to it.  While many beers have a smoky taste to it, 
the comment I have most recently heard is that the smoky taste is 
similar to the smell of a wet ashtray.  

I'm not sure I want to pay $6 to be disappointed with a six pack I 
cannot drink but a sip from.  Unless I hear differently from someone 
who has had a Negra recently, I won't be getting any.  I've heard 
that golden Modelo is very Budmilcoors.

Carl

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From: elendil@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Anchor Porter...
Date: Sat, 05 Dec 92 08:19:14 CST
Organization: Seashell Software

daniel@teer24.acpub.duke.edu (Daniel Crawford) writes:

> In article <5RiaVB1w165w@seashell.mintir.new-orleans.la.us>, elendil@seashell
> |>
> |> Can anyone recommend other good porters to try that are available here?
> |>
>
> I highly recommend Samuel Smith's Taddy Porter.  It is very expensive, but if
> can afford it one evening, give it a try.  It is particularly smooth.  Anchor
> Porter is also very good, as you well know, but is a bit sharper (IMO) than S
> Taddy.  It's mainly a question of how much you want to spend for good stuff.
>
> Ain't it always...
>

Amen to that!  How much is, by your reckoning, 'very expensive?'  This one
you're suggesting sounds like the kind of thing you order in a pub rather than
picking up six of the Anchor and bringing 'em home...




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From: crvich@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Ernest Crvich)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Corona and Mexican Beer
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:05:12 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

In article <724367795snx@dashs.denver.co.us> serls@dashs.denver.co.us (Dave Serls) writes:
>ST1T0@jetson.uh.edu writes in article <1girs2INNi8g@menudo.uh.edu>:
>>
>> >  What about Negra Modelo?
>>
>Haven't had a Negra Modelo recently --  I prefer Bohemia, it's
>curiously subtle.  Pacifico has an interesting, if overdone,
>woodruff kind of taste.

   I've had Negra Modelo a couple of times the past few months.  Although
it isn't nearly as dark and thick as I like, it is a fairly respectable
beer.  Slightly malty, very slight roasted flavor.  Again, not overflowing
with taste, but along with Dos Equis (a different taste, but approximately
the same magnitude of it) are the two best Mexican brews I've had (of about
seven varieties).
   That said, I must take issue with your description of Pacifico.  If 
you're referring to Pacifico Clara, I must say that this is the *worst*
and most tasteless, featureless beer from Mexico I've had.  Less flavor
than Sol, Corona, and Chihuahua (these all have a very faint sweet taste).
It was so similar to typical American megabrew sewage I almost couldn't
believe it.  Really poor, poor stuff.  :(  The fact that it is worse than
Sol and Corona should keep almost anyone from wasting money on it.
   I've never tried (or seen) Bohemia, nor have I yet seen Tres Equis.
Looking forward to at least giving each of these a chance.  Until then,
I'll stick with Xingu, Sierra Nevada Porter, and Sheaf Stout, amoung
others.
   Later.

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