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From: depeche@cs.mcgill.ca (Acme Instant Dehydrated Boulder Kit)
Subject: Chamber Music
Keywords: Classical, string instruments
Organization: Save the Missippi Riverboat Paddlewheel Fund
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 01:51:31 GMT

Is there a mailing list or newsgroup devoted to getting people together
who enjoy playing amateur chamber music?
My parents, who live in the Boston area, are always interested in meeting
new people to jam with. They're looking preferably for string players,
but they're open minded, and have a very nice music room and entertain
music-playing guests quite well.

send replies to: ezust@cmpsci.suffolk.edu


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From: brad@SSD.intel.com (Brad Rullman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Multitrack DAT
Date: 4 Oct 92 01:20:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: SSD.1992Oct4.012036.18084
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Originator: brad@ecola

I'm finally thinking of moving up from my Yamaha MT2X 4-track cassette
recorder ...

So what's new in multitrack DAT gear?  I've heard the Alesis mentioned
in this group ... what is it?  How much is it?

Thanks ...

Brad Rullman                      Intel Supercomputer Systems Division CO1-01
brad@ssd.intel.com                15201 Greenbrier Parkway
(503) 629-4309                    Beaverton, OR  97006-5771
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Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:10019 alt.guitar:8578
From: dhi00@ccc.amdahl.com (mofo )
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar
Subject: Barcus-Berry Electronics question
Date: 2 Oct 92 00:26:45 GMT
Reply-To: dhi00@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (mofo )
Distribution: na
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


My brother in London asked me to try to find out if anyone has or has had any
dealings with a company by the name of Barcus-Berry Electronics (sp?).

He has their 411 Sonic-maximizer and during a recent gig a stray foot hit a
jack, leaving him soundless for a while. The trouble is, he says, all the othe
r electronics (Compressor, what have you) came back up fine, but the Maximizer
hasn't been the same since. He tells me that it will propogate signals, but it
no longer functions properly.
He has no idea who to contact locally regarding this, and requested that I do
what I can at this end.
He says it is a California comany, but after calling 411 all morning I know
that they aren't in....SF, LA, Redondo Beach or Pasadena.
Any information re: this would be greatly appreciated.
Many Thanks

d
Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:9884 rec.music.synth:15637
From: vangen@titan.ksc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: TX16W, oh Lawdy how I want one...
Date: 28 Sep 92 15:24:14 EST
Organization: NASA, Kennedy Space Center

In article <1992Sep13.202409.6726@iscsvax.uni.edu>, williams8572@iscsvax.uni.edu (fEAR AND lOATHING IN cEDAR fALLS) writes:
> Hello,                                                            
>    Anybody out there wanting to sell their TX16W sampler?  I do not have $1000
> bucks to spend on one (as one priced recently was going for with disks) but I
> am quite intertested in obtaining one.  Respond directly to me and hopefully we
> can do some talking.
> -- 
> ******lid11 - Black Industrial Diamonds demo.  Reply to me if interested.******
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Xref: sparky rec.music.makers:9906 rec.music.misc:24271
From: milliken@scofield.Corp.Sun.COM (Gary Milliken)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: REQ: Halloween tunes
Date: 29 Sep 1992 15:16:26 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: scofield.corp.sun.com

In article <malcolm.717723217@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) writes:
>day@elmer.orl.mmc.com (Jim Day) writes:
>
>>Our band here has a gig booked for Halloween and the bar is going to go all out
>>with advertisements, promos spots, etc.  We are really excited about playing for
>>the event (we have played there before but expect there will be many more people
>>this time around...contest, etc.).
>
>>So, I would like to know if anyone has any "Halloween music (chords, words, etc)
>>they would like to share with me.  I have alread put down "Werewolves of London"
>>on the list of possibles...you know stuff like that.  There was a tune I heard a
>>long time ago, I think it was "Haunted House" or something like that...

I'd say this must be "Haunted House" by Gene Simmons, the guy who later was in the
group Kiss.

Watch out:  if your crowd notices you doing explicitly Halloween-related tunes, you
*will* get asked to do "Monster Mash", so brush up your Boris Karloff impressions...

From: khe@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Keith Erskine)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 23:17:16 GMT
Subject: Re: Animal Logic - in defense of...
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers

After reading the flames directed towards Animal Logic, I gave both CD's
(3 dalmations vs. 3 polar bears) a more critical listening this weekend.

I still like Animal Logic very much. I agree the lyrics are trite, but 
it doesn't bother me. I never pay much attention to the meanings of the
lyrics themselves, just how they flow lyrically and serve as a vehicle 
for the melody. In this respect I think the Deborah Holland's lyrics
serve quite well.  

I find Animal Logic very refreshing because they break out of the
fusion mold.  The focus in Animal Logic is definitely contributing
to the overall feel of the song, instead of laying down killer 
guitar/bass/drum riffs in a 3 minute long solo.  In spite of the lack 
of extended instrumental solos, both Copeland and Clarke create innovative,
powerful rhythym lines for Deborah Holland's vocals.  One very unique
aspect of Animal Logic is the *banjo* work by the guitarist (darn, 
forgot his name).  The banjo is present on many tunes, which provides
a bright, upbeat, feel, while leaving plenty of room for Clarke's bass
lines.  The solos by the guitarist are equally musical, with a distinct
country feel, void of GIT fusion guitar riff cliches.

I think some people whose interests don't extend past fusion/bebop
feel it necessary to flame any of their fusion idols when they make
a recording that strays from fusion (how many people flamed Miles
Davis for straying from bebop?), especially if they make a pop 
recording.

Keith Erskine
From: dvac@druwa.ATT.COM (Daniel Vachon)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Singing and playing simultaneously
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:23:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.182940.12086@leland.Stanford.EDU>, jay@cmn19.Stanford.EDU (Jay Kadis) writes:
> I am now able to sing my own songs and play rhythm guitar at the same time.   
> The secret for me was to write songs in which the lyrics and rhythm guitar  
> parts are rhythmically locked.  I still can't do covers...(that's OK), but  
> I'm getting pretty comfortable with my own stuff.  

Well, all this talk about being able to sing and play at the same time makes
me think back about how it has become somewhat easy for me to play drums and
sing at the same time....  I got forced into singing in the garage bands I was
in during high school and college, as finding someone who could sing worth a
darn was hard to do back then....so I ended up having to sing quite a bit 
(about 1/2 of the tunes).  After 3 years of playing in that mode, then 
finally making that semi-professional break and playing in cover bands for
the last 4 years, has really helped.....My vocals continually improve, and I
am able to do more and more complex stuff...  Sure, there are still some songs
I just can't sing and play at the same time because they are too intricate, but
it's fairly simple now for the most part....  I started singing stuff like 
KISS (Gene Simmons stuff, where you could grunt it out basically), and now I
find myself doing stuff like Danger Danger, Firehouse, 38 Special, Robert
Palmer, etc...  Don't give up on it!!!  I am in a 3 piece cover band right now
and I am pushing on our bass player to start doing more vocal work....  Never
give up, and keep cranking away....It'll come to you!  

> As usual, practice makes near-perfect...

Thats a great way to sum it up!  
  
> Jay 


- Dan Vachon   !att!druwa!dvac


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From: stephenl@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Stephen Lamar Legate)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar.bass
Subject: Re: Singing and playing simultaneously
Summary: it's a bitch
Keywords: pain in the ass
Date: 27 Sep 92 02:15:47 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Sep24.170537.19557@cas.org> lrm28@cas.org writes:
>In my experience, I can sing lead if I simplify my bass line a whole bunch.
>A memorized part helps, but I don't play songs the same way all the time.
>If you can do it easily, please tell us how it's done.  If you can't,
>tell us why not.

I can, but only if the song is relatively simple.  Sometimes I can do
both complex instrumentals and complex vocals simultaneously, but I 
basically have to spend HOURS and HOURS playing the instrumental OVER
and OVER until even a complex riff gets to be instinctive and automatic.
Then I can push that into the background and sing on top of it.

It is a PAIN IN THE ASS.

That's why the basement band I play in is looking for a dedicated 
lead singer... ;^)

-Chundarr the Barbarian,
 Rhythm Gutarist and Erstwhile Lead Singer of the Audio Artillery,
 And his Friendly Dog, Gunthor.
From: ebumfr@ebu.ericsson.se (Mike Rembis 6259)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Barcus-Berry Electronics question
Date: 7 Oct 92 01:23:33 GMT
Reply-To: ebumfr@ebu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Business Communications, Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson in North America.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the user and
              not necessarily those of Ericsson.

Barcus-Berry Electronics
5381 Production Dr.
Huntington Beach, CA 
(714) 898-9211

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From: bdr@craycos.com (Brian D Reitz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Guitar Info wanted.
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:01:55 GMT
Organization: Cray Computer Corporation


Two quick questions:

1) I'm looking for a broker dealer or any large music store that might be
   apt to carry vintage guitars and parts.  Specifically what I'm looking
   for is two single coil P90 pickups that are as old as possible (nothing
   younger than 1960 allowed here!).  I want to replace the stock 1980 Gibson
   P90's in my Les Paul Pro Deluxe with some really old P90's.  I've 
   played some late 50's Les Pauls and a '59 Les Paul Jr with P90's that just 
   have something special about them. 

2) I'm wondering if anybody has re-coned old 12" Celestion Bulldogs.  I 
   have a chance to pick up a 60's Vox solid state amp for a song with
   two original Green Bulldogs in it.  I want the speakers and not the
   amp.  The price is right, however I *know* if I play through a 25w 
   speaker for any length of time I'll blow the thing.  I'd hate to pick
   these up only to trash them and then totally change their sound by
   having them re-coned.  Thoughs from anybody having done this would
   be greatly appreciated.

Please Email me and I'll post if anybody else is interested in what I learn.

___________________________________________________________________________
Brian Reitz                 bdr@craycos.com                 +1 719 540 4210
Cray Computer Corporation, 1110 Bayfield Drive, Colorado Springs, CO  80906
   
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Brian Reitz                 bdr@craycos.com                 +1 719 540 4210
Cray Computer Corporation, 1110 Bayfield Drive, Colorado Springs, CO  80906
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: Chris Wolcott <chrisw@prodnet.la.locus.com>
Subject: gibson pickup
Organization: Locus Computing Corporation, Los Angeles, California
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 18:39:54 GMT

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From: chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com (Chris Christensen)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Mounting mics inside drums?
Date: 5 Oct 92 18:56:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: gold.5378
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1992Oct1.231749.22065@unixg.ubc.ca> dkmiller@unixg.ubc.ca (Derek K. Miller) writes:
>Some months or years ago, I read in "Musician" (I think) about a studio
>drummer who had bought a bunch of Radio Shack surface microphones -
>the flat ones that look like square, flat pieces of slate and which are
>designed to be mounted on walls. He glued them to the inside of his drum
>shells and had XLR jacks mounted directly through the shell of the drums.
>When he went into the studio, all he had to do was plug XLR cables straight
>into all his drums (and then use overheads and hi-hat mics, of course).

I haven't used PZM's in toms  but I have used it in the Kick.  

I have used dynamics and electret condensers inside of drums.

The drum sounds different when mic'ed inside vs when mic'ed  on the
batter side.  

One thing that I have done is to use mic mounting hardware that clamp
to the lugs of the drums.  This saves stands.....

Try mounting the mic in the drum and if it sounds like what you want
then go for it.

-- 
Chris Christensen                  The opinions I express are my own,
chrisc@gold.gvg.tek.com            and sometimes they are wrong!
916-478-3419 FAX 916-478-3887      After all, I *AM* only human.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar,alt.guitar.bass
From: ADCBB@VM.CC.LATECH.EDU (C. Brian Batey)
Subject: Hughes and Kettner Red Box??
Organization: LOUISIANA TECH UNIVERSITY
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 10:38:15 CST

I've seen adds in Musician's Friend, etc. for a cabinet emulating direct
box called a "Red Box".  Opinions??  About 90% of my performing is on bass
doing church band/orchestra gigs and requires a good bit of direct work.
Is this thing suitable for bass, and how about acoustic/electric guitar
rather than electric??
 
thanx
brian
adcbb@vm.cc.latech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar
From: tenny@euclid.uucp (Nathan Tenny)
Subject: Re: String damping device
Organization: Department of Mathematics, University of Oregon
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 05:06:53 GMT


A short piece of shoelace across the neck, under the strings, works pretty
well for this and costs slightly less than $50.

Personally, I kind of like the resonance from open strings (as long as
everything is in E or A, I guess. but how many of us play heavy tapping
stuff in Ab?)

	NT
From: gt6851a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian King)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Red Box
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:27:13 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

>>I've seen adds in Musician's Friend, etc. for a cabinet emulating direct
box called a "Red Box".  Opinions??  About 90% of my performing is on bass
doing church band/orchestra gigs and requires a good bit of direct work.
Is this thing suitable for bass, and how about acoustic/electric guitar
rather than electric??


It works fine for acoustic/electrics, and on bass as well, although I don't
notice a very strong cabinet-sound on bass.

-- 
"in this day & age...music performed by humans?...Hum?! - Wilde Silas Tomkyn 
"and for the Catholic students... FISH!!!" - Galactic Cowboys
Brian King - Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta: gt6851a@prism.gatech.edu 

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: boarjas@elof.iit.edu (Jason Boardman)
Subject: Re: Advice for Drummer
Organization: Illinois Institute of Technology, Chicago
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 19:12:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep24.055245.11040@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> smills@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (MuffinHead) writes:
>
>Other stuff:
>-Join the drummers' mailing list at drum@elof.itt.edu. (I think that's right.)
                                               ^^^

Actually that's drum@elof.iit.edu.  If you want to subscribe to the
drum/percussion mailing list, send mail saying so to:
drum-request@elof.iit.edu

(Thanks for the plug Muffinhead!)

Jason Boardman
boarjas@elof.iit.edu
(Moderator drum/percussion mailing list)
From: latta@scam.berkeley.edu (Craig R. Latta)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: MUSENET update
Date: 4 Oct 92 19:21:37
Organization: Experimental Computing Facility (XCF)
Distribution: world
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In-reply-to: darrin@sunmaster.engin.umich.edu's message of Fri, 02 Oct 92 12:25:14 EDT
Followups-To: poster



	Darrin Cardani (darrin@sunmaster.engin.umich.edu) writes:

> Would it be possible to post the names of those you've received
> submissions from?  I'd just like to make sure you got mine, and I bet
> others would, also.

	Sure; it will be a part of future updates. I'm too busy at the
moment to update my online list of people, so stay tuned. Most of the
submitters have been acknowledged via email. I apologize for excessive
delays, but <insert lame excuse about real job, the U.S. Postal
Service, or whatever>. As I mentioned before, all proper allowances
will be made.

	Today's MUSENET news: 40 minutes of the project have been
mastered. Only 108 to go...



-C


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From: darkman@cats.ucsc.edu (Axeman)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,alt.guitar
Subject: String damping device
Date: 26 Sep 92 22:12:25 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


My friend used to have a little clamp-like thing that hooked onto his strings
and dampened them.  You clamp it down to the guitar by sandwiching the 
strings (right after the nut and before the tuning pegs) and it has a piano
felt thing that folds down on top of the first fret.  It is used for two-
handed tapping and stuff that would otherwise leave the strings resonating.
I'm wondering if anybody has seen these marvels of guitar wizadry in any
mail-order catalogs.  Apparently they run ~$50, (gosh for a >guitar accessory<?
What am I thinking..), and damping is the only thing for which they're used.

_jq
From: ja51359@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (axelrod)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Where to get 1/4" Phono Cables Cheaply?
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:08:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.BvCqEy.A2w
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Hi.  Where can I get 1/4" phono cables cheaply?  Radio Sklak charges $3/piece
which I feel is pretty high for what you're getting.  Anywhere cheaper?  Can
you buy them in packs of 10 or something?

Thanks
Jeff
From: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Mounting mics inside drums?
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:18:02 GMT
Reply-To: g_house@goes11.enet.dec.com (Greg House)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I have some mikes that are Shure SM57 capsules, minus the transformer, which 
are designed to be mounted inside drums.  The original packaging included
the mounting hardware and a shock proof mount for the mikes.  but I forget
the company name...

Greg
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: cseb@frodo.lfi.uni-hannover.de (Christian Sebeke)
Subject: Mail order house in the U.K.
Reply-To: cseb@frodo.lfi.uni-hannover.de
Organization: Univ. Hannover, LFI, Abt. Design&Test
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:58:22 GMT

Hello

  Could you recomment a mail order house in the UNITED KINGDOM that
ships music equipment to the continent?

Thanks for your response.

Christian

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From: bottom@hawk1.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Getting a Label to Listen
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:11:35 GMT
Reply-To: hedron::daveb
Organization: ASO IM operations


I attended a music industry conference in Mass this spring and the A&R guy
from Atlantic specifically stated that if he received tapes that were 
unsolicited he threw them away. When asked how to get a major label to notice
a band he said "Get a hit on local radio,  then we'll come out and look you
over. Or get a respected industry lawyer (or other personage) to send me your 
tape, then I'll listen to it".

--
/dave

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: pms26964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Phil Scopes-not PMS)
Subject: ADAT question
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 10:13:46 GMT

For those of you that have had a chance to use the ADAT, I have a question.
How does it compare in sound quality to, let's say, a professional analog
24-track?  I'm asking this because it seems hard to believe that a $4000
deck of any kind can be used in a professional studio, yet the ad in Keyboard
shows three ADATs and the sync box in an attractive rack, all aside a big
studio mixing board, indicating (at least to me) that you could use such a 
setup to record a #1 hit record (as opposed to some home-studio demo).  
Any comments?


-- 
* Phil Scopes (pms26964@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu)
* University of Illinois
* Champaign/Urbana