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From: erc@pogo.Corp.Sun.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: I bought some HF gear and need manuals
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:44:27 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pogo.corp.sun.com

Ansiart has come out with a series for people like you who have picked up
equipment sans manuals.  They have owner's manuals for all the popular Yaesu,
Kenwood, Icom, and Alinco gear.  They should be available at your local ham store.
--
Ed Carp                                      415/336-0797 (work)

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From: depolo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeff DePolo)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Out-of-order callsigns?
Date: 13 Apr 92 22:39:59 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I checked with the FCC last week to see what the most recent callsigns were
for our district (3) so I could tell new candidates of what call to sort-
of expect at our VE sessions.  For the 3rd district, the latest calls for
the 1x3 (general/tech) block are in the N3B?? series.  However, most 
techs in this area had been receving N3L?? series calls.  At first, I 
figured it was just a mistake.  However, a new ham in the area (code-
free tech) was given N3BTZ.  What's the story?  Are they reissuing 
calls that are no longer in use, or was there a group of calls in the N3B
region that were never issued or what?

								--- Jeff
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 Jeff DePolo  WN3A              Twisted Pair: (215) 386-7199                  
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 University of Pennsylvania     Carrier Pigeon: 420 S. 42nd St. Phila PA 19104
From: cvm@nauvax.ucc.nau.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 2 meter dipole?
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:46:26 GMT
Organization: Northern Arizona University

I need to put a 2 meter antenna outside my house.  The two options I am
considering are:

1 -  A Cushcraft ARX-2B.  Costs about $50 plus 40 feet of coax and $15-20 for a
     mast.  The top of the antenna will be 30-35 feet off the ground.

2 -  A homemade dipole hung vertically in a tall pine tree next to my house.  I
     don't know what this will cost to build.  I will need 110 feet of coax to
     get from inside my house to the top of the tree.  The top of the antenna
     will be about 75 feet off the ground.

Since this is for 2 meters it would be easy to make a full wave dipole
instead of a half wave.  Would this give me better gain/performance? I would
appreciate any advice about the advantages or disadvantages of either option.

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From: yee@mipgsun.mipg.upenn.edu (Conway Yee)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: On the durability of ham HT's and commercial HT's
Date: 8 Apr 92 15:51:42 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Apr3.163109.5497@linus.mitre.org> m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White) writes:
>Conway Yee writes:
>> It is well known that commercial HT's (e.g. Motorola) are much sturdier
>> than ham HT's (e.g. Yaesu, ICOM).  My question is why?
>
>Simple: price.  Commercial HTs cost two or three times ham units, and 
>generally have far fewer features at that.  The police/fire/rescue guys 
>need units that will stand up to phenomenal abuse: impact, heat, water, 
>.357 magnum bullets, etc... and still work.  Hams don't need, and 
>generally arent' willing to pay for, that kind of reliability.

This is not necessarily the case.  Let me take two examples that
immediately come to mind.

1) In the 1970's and 1980's Jordache jeans were selling at a cost 
   several times greater than my Wrangler jeans.  The reason was
   the name brand and advertising--not any extra utility.

3) My sneakers cost circa $40-$50 (even that I think is way
   too much) but the name brand "pump" type sneakers may cost
   $100-$150.  This is also due to advertising.

The question I have been asking, and everybody has not answered is:
What is the actual cost of making a rugged HT?  The use of heavy steel
in the case, the use of proper seals to prevent water damage, etc, etc
can't be so expensive as to double or triple the price of the HT.  The
extra design and testing to insure durability may affect the cost but
two or three times?  From where I stand, something certainly is not
adding up.  Several explanations come to mind:

a) Motorola is charging "all the market can bear" (personal note:
   apologies to someone I have been corresponding by email).

b) There isn't enough competition.

c) There is a cost in the design and construction of rugged HT's that
   I have either underestimated or missed.

To put it another way.  Is there any way to take a ham HT and ruggedize
it at home?  Perhaps using extra padding and a steel case.





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418 Service Drive       |yee@ming.mipg.upenn.edu    (preferred)
Philadelphia, PA 19104  |cy5@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (forwarded to above)
(215) 662-6780          |yee@bnlx26.nsls.bnl.gov    (rarely checked)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: parnass@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Subject: Re: On the durability of ham HT's and commercial HT's
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:01:53 GMT
Summary: HT-200 weaponry

In article <1992Apr9.035643.1874@ni.umd.edu>,
louie@sayshell.umd.edu (Louis A. Mamakos) writes about the HT-200:

> That's the great thing about Motorola radios; you can use them as a
> rather painful blunt instrument to defend yourself, if necessary.

Hair and pieces of scalp have been known to tumble out the back
of police department HT-200s at the 2-way radio shop I frequented.

I, too, owned an HT-200.  One heck of a radio, but the weight could
pull your pants down if you didn't wear suspenders!
-- 
===============================================================================
Bob Parnass, AJ9S                                             att!ihlpm!parnass
Distinguished Member of the Technical Staff                       (708)979-5414
AT&T Bell Laboratories                         Knife collector, treasure hunter
From: jim@wicat.UUCP (Jim Raehl)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Why are so many people "bad" in the callbook?
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:02:24 GMT
Reply-To: jim@wicat.UUCP (Jim Raehl)
Organization: WICAT Systems, Orem, Utah

In article <Apr.3.11.07.09.1992.22445@pilot.njin.net> ron@pilot.njin.net (Ron) writes:
>> The rules say, after all, that the FCC is supposed to have your correct
>> mailing address at all times....
>
>Yeah, but sending in a new 610 is usually the last thing you remember ...

I suggest to users of my callsign server BBS that they look up their friends.
If any information they find is incorrect, users should suggest their 
friends send in a 610.  It only takes one bootlegger using your callsign
to ruin your day (maybe an unlikely event, but remember Murphy).

Those in states around Utah are welcome to use the N7KXI callsign server
BBS.  Buckmaster USA and Canada lookups available (more foreign calls in
May, if Buckmaster is telling the truth).  To look up a call,

SP REQQTH@N7KXI.UT.USA.NA    (at your BBS prompt)
call1 call2 call3 call4      (at "Enter Title" prompt)
ctl-Z or /EX                 (at "Enter Text" prompt)

-- 
Jim Raehl  (801) 224-6400     *  "See 5th amendment, US constitution ..."
WICAT Systems, Incorporated   *  
1875 South State Street       *  Packet radio: N7KXI@N7KXI.UT.USA.NA
Orem, Utah  84058  (USA)      *  (Morse code NOT required for license)
From: MOSIER%UNCG.BITNET@ncsuvm.cc.ncsu.EDU (Steve Mosier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Boycott Icom (fwd)
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:30:19 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Dube/AB5AP writes:

> If you want new, state-of-the-art technology, then you have to pay the price
> that goes with the fact that as technology advances, the "old" gets left
> behind bacause there's not enough time, space or money to take care of both

Well, if we're talking state-of-the-art, then lets not worry about ICOM
735's, 725's, 751's.  They were/are neat radios, but not anything to base
a cutting-edge technology talk on.  About all we can do is discuss the ICOM
781 (and I still don't think that's state-of-the-art technology, just
state-of-the-art consumer affairs).  But does your concept apply there?
$5,000 for 10 years.  Should I expect to throw this radio away in the year
2001 because I can't get a replacement CPU chip?  Or do I have to buy two
radios to be sure I can keep one going?  Can't buy it (the radio OR the
"throwaway" concept).

steve - W3GRG
mosier@uncg.bitnet
mosier@steffi.uncg.edu
From: mark@dinsdale.ARmstrong.EDU (Mark Eversoll)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Boycott Icom
Date: 16 Apr 1992 05:44:36 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

This is my personal opinion on the matter and nothing more.

If a manufacturer were to guarantee that it would retain parts for repair
indefinitely (or say 15 years), it would be forced to purchase or manufacture
those parts to cover that period of time.  The cost associated with such
over-production and subsequent storage and cataloging of those parts must be
paid by someone.  The manufacturer won't wait until he sells a replacement
to collect his due.  You will pay, _up front_, in the form of a premium on
your new radio, which may never require repairs.

To be sure, hams are known as a frugal bunch, as are amateur photographers.
Manufacturers are faced with using every method at hand to keep prices low
and perceived value high.  This generally means packaging only what's
absolutely needed with a product (except, of course, batteries) and forcing
the buyer to spring for any "required" accessories.

As a result, manufacturers must consider the "life cycle" of their product.
Sure, it would be nice to buy a rig and have it last forever and lots of them
do.  In my opinion, that's not realistic because new features, technology and
product size make me yearn for a new one anyway.  If my $1000 radio only
"lasts" ten years, I figure it only cost me 100 bucks a year.  I pay far
more in taxes than that and I get _far_ less in return :) . 

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From: clmorgan@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Out-of-order callsigns?
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:40:05 GMT

In article <73912@netnews.upenn.edu>, depolo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Jeff DePolo) writes:
> I checked with the FCC last week to see what the most recent callsigns were
> for our district (3) so I could tell new candidates of what call to sort-
> of expect at our VE sessions.  For the 3rd district, the latest calls for
> the 1x3 (general/tech) block are in the N3B?? series.  However, most 
> techs in this area had been receving N3L?? series calls.  At first, I 
> figured it was just a mistake.  However, a new ham in the area (code-
> free tech) was given N3BTZ.  What's the story?  Are they reissuing 
> calls that are no longer in use, or was there a group of calls in the N3B
> region that were never issued or what?
> 
> 								--- Jeff
> --
> -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>  Jeff DePolo  WN3A              Twisted Pair: (215) 386-7199                  
>  depolo@eniac.seas.upenn.edu    RF: 444.250+ (no, we're not moving)
>  University of Pennsylvania     Carrier Pigeon: 420 S. 42nd St. Phila PA 19104

Why not give the Commission another call and ask them?  By the way, if they're
planning to reissue the 1x2 W8 calls, I'd sure like to know.

73/Carl <> K8NHE
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rossi@gvlf8-m.gvl.unisys.com (Pete Rossi)
Subject: Amazing...  (related to Heathkit)
Organization: Unisys Defense Systems, Great Valley Labs, Paoli, Pa
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 15:16:58 GMT

I was surprised to see that the word "Heathkit" is in our standard
UNIX spelling checker dictionary.   How 'bout that!! 

I guess it will become what Websters calls an  archaic  word  --
  " ... once common use is found today only sporadically
     or on special contexts ... "

...sigh..

=================================================================
Pete Rossi - WA3NNA                  rossi@gvlf8.gvl.unisys.com

Paramax Systems Corporation - a Unisys Company
Electronic Systems - Valley Forge Labs - Paoli, Pennsylvania
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From: dj1@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: YEASU FT-5200 MODS REQUEST
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:41:25 GMT
Article-I.D.: vax1.1992Apr8.174125.1684
Organization: Mankato State University

HELLO,
	HAVING RECEIVED NO RESPONSE FROM MY REQUEST FOR YEASU FT-5200 MODS 
(OTHER THEN REQUESTS FOR FORWARDING THE INFO) I THOUGHT I WOULD AGAIN GIVE IT
A TRY. SO HERE GOES....

	I AM LOOKING FOR MODS FOR THE YEASE FT-5200 RADIO.  INCLUDING REPEAT
MOD, OUT OF BAND (I KNOW NOT TO USE IT), AND ANY OTHER GOODIES THAT MAY BE
CRAMMED IN THIS OTHERWISE GREAT RADIO.

							THANX,

SEAN R. STEPANEK / N0PBA
DJ1@VAX1.MANKATO.MSUS.EDU
From: dube@cpdvax.CSc.ti.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 3-letter calls
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:51:52 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

Then there's WOW, Omaha, Nebraska (where Johnny Carson got his start, I 
believe).

Dube    AB5AP        <dube@cpdvax.csc.ti.com>
From: mab3474@rigel.tamu.edu (Myles Barkman-KG5AI Tx A&M Univ.)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Realistic HTX-202 MODS NEEDED?
Date: 9 Apr 92 05:28:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Apr2.052750.11780@eng.ufl.edu>, scot@sioux.ee.ufl.edu writes...
>I am looking for the modifications that can be made to the Realistic
>HTX-202 Handie Talkie.  If anyone knows how to take this radio out of
>band ... please let me know!!!
> 
> 
>73's
> 
>Mike, N4UVW           michael@sioux.ee.ufl.edu
Just watch me get egg on my face one of these days.
As far as I know, the only mod you can do to this radio to make it go out of
band is to put a different crystal in it.  Then you won't be able to read off
the correct frequency or talk on 2m.  In other words.....look for another
radio if you want something that can go out of band.  My Kenwood TH77A works
very nicely and the Icom(?) rig works equally as well.
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: m14494@mwvm.mitre.org (Mike White)
Subject: Re: BENTON HARBOR LUNCH BOX...REMEMBER?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:46:32 GMT

Re: Benton Harbor Lunch Box...

Ah, my very first ham rig: a Heathkit Twoer!  Back when I was a kid (right 
after all the dinosaurs died), novices had voice privleges on 2 meters.  
The Twoer cost about $50, and took me all summer to get together and 
working.  The receiver was a super-regen, and made this god-awful roaring 
noise whenever it was on... no squelch at all.  And it had no selectivity 
whatsoever; tuning wasn't all that important, because no matter where you 
set the dial, you got pretty much the whole band.  Still, loads of fun.  
Not much use today, except as a nostalgia item.  In addition to the 6 and 
10 meter versions someone else mentioned, there was also a CB version.  
Working Twoers can be had for around $20 at hamfests, basket cases are 
usually around $5.  I just donated a clean, non-working, but repairable 
Twoer to my club for sale at the next fest.  If you're interested, email me and I'll put you in touch with them;  the club can sure use the income! ;-)

Mike, N4PDY

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* These are my opinions only.*
************************
From: andy@pc133b.mimuw.EDU.PL (Andrzej K. Brandt)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: QSL routes needed!
Date: 9 Apr 1992 06:10:31 -0700
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
Reply-To: andy@mimuw.edu.pl
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu

I need QSL information for following calls:

6C1RJ
TA5C
C31SD
DU1COO
TL8NG

as far as I could check none of them is listed in the book, but this is not a
proof thaat they are unlises - I'm also not listed :-)

If you can help me - please e-mail directly to me.


                               73 de Andy SP5WCA


/-------------------+--------+-------------------+--------------------\
I Andrzej K. Brandt I SP5WCA I andy@mimuw.edu.pl I sp5wca@sr5bbs      I 
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From: djenkins@wang.com (Dave Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: What to start off with? (220/2M/440...)
Summary: Suggestions/comments sought on HT/Mobil 220/440/2M
Keywords: First radio which 220 440 2M HT Mobil
Date: 15 Apr 92 21:49:59 GMT
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

Hello world.

I just passed my novice exam (!!!!!!) on 4/7/92 and am almost ready to take
my Tech exam.  I hope to have my CSCE to operationally upgrade (and mail a
new 610) the day I get my Novice ticket in the mail.  (I was going to go
no-code but the class I got into was teaching a traditional Novice, so, what
the heck. It wasn't *THAT* hard.)

Now I have the quandry of what to buy first.  I posted in .swap for a 220HT
but the feedback I got makes me wonder.  The two issues are
		  1) HT vs. mobile
		  2) 220 vs 2M vs 440.

As for 1) I like the idea of an HT but the greater power/range available with
a mobile is something to consider.  I know that an HT can be made "mobile"
easier than vice versa, but someone argued that doing so means ultimately
replacing most if not all of the connectors from connect/disconnect abuse.  I
have been following the short ;-) thread on the reliability of HT's and the
fact that while some broke from being sneezed on, others have survived tanks,
bullets, salesmen, floods and other things that neither Samsonite nor Timex
would try.  I've heard others say "I replced this button twice, the faceplate
once, the BNC three times, this clip twice..."

As for 2) some people say 220 is on the way out.  Others live and breath 220.
There is a 220 repeater 8 miles from my home with a phone patch (and two
frequence agile remotes 2M and 440) and it is linked to another 220 repeater
that sits on top of the building I work in.  So it seems that 220 would
probably get me everything I need for now, but... for how long and will it be
enough in the semi-long run?  Am I just plain wrong?  Will Luke marry Laura?

Others have talked up 2M and 440 a lot.  I have seen 2M/440 dual band HT's
and mobil units but they are a bit pricey for me right now.  One person
mentioned a 220/2M dual band (by Standard?).  I have a semi-firm budget of
$215 and Deerfield is comming up soon!

Suggestions/comments/flames welcome via e-mail (or post if you think enough
others might be interested).  I would be glad to summarize or cc.  Related
war stories are welcome too, but only via e-mail, please.

---
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52 Norman Street              Work: (508) 967-7284            M/S 014-690
Gardner, MA  01440-1916        Fax: (508) 967-2212            1 Industrial Ave.
<Reserved for callsign>     e-mail: djenkins@wang.com         Lowell, MA  01851
From: sl8wm@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Please help me.
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:53:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: cc.1992Apr16.145347.54536
Organization: Utah State University

I realize that requests for radio mods are posted quite often and that
many are so sick of them that they simply ignore them. In spite of this
I am here to request info on mods for the Yaesu FT-2400. I understand 
that there may be a mod that will extend the receive range. I have tried
every BBS and FTP site that I know of and I have tried the mail server 
that is supposed to have mods but my mail always bounced.
If anyone out there has this mod could you please e-mail a copy to me.

Thank You

Bruce, N7TKX
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: BENTON HARBOR LUNCH BOX...REMEMBER?
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:52:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: ttd.1992Apr15.135401.1
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division

In article <1992Apr12.185102.1@madre.dasd.honeywell.com>, woody@madre.dasd.honeywell.com writes:
> When I first became interested in hamming back in the 60's, Heath had a rig on
> the market called the "Benton Harbor Lunch Box".  The only thing I remember 
> about it is it's general size and shape, and that as a teenager I found the rig
> fascinating.  Are there any OT's out there that can refresh my memory on this
> pre-HT dinosaur?  What freqs and power ranges did it have?  Has anyone seen any
> at Hamfests?  What are they selling for?  How well do they work?  
> 

   There were two "Benton Harbor Lunchbox" rigs. One for Six Meters (Known as
the "Sixer" and one for Two Meters - The "Twoer". They ran about 5W, AM, with
super-regenerative receivers. They were crystal controlled using overtone
crystals (I remember converting my six meter version to use the much less
expensive (at the time) and much more readily available 8Mhz crystals.
   I haven't seen one for years, but I'd bet any amount of money that you
could find both at Dayton in a couple of weeks.


   John Rice -  K9IJ         |  "Did I say that ?" I must have, but It was    
   rice@ttd.teradyne.com     |   MY opinion only, no one else's...Especially  
   (708)-940-9000 - (work)   |   Not my Employer's.... Licensed since 1959
   (708)-438-7011 - (home)   |   Ex: K8YZR, KH6GHC, WB9CSP, W9MMB, WA1TXV
From: jeff@markets.amix.com (Jeff Crilly N6ZFX)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: SB-1000 owners...
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:38:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: American Information Exchange, Palo Alto, CA

I understand the SB1000 is an Ameritron that was sold in kit form.
Does anyone have any comments on its reliability and performance?

I'm thinking about getting a used SB1000, but am paranoid that, like
some other heathkit ham gear (e.g. SB104), it has problems.  Also,
buying used gear that was built by the first owner makes me even
more paranoid, but linears are relatively simpler than, say, tranceivers.

Oh, one more thing: can the SB1000 be run in QSK mode?  (I'd like to
do amtor with it.)  Or can it be modified to run in QSK mode?  I know
that the Ameritrons have a QSK add on option; I thought heath sold one
too.  

Thanks.

Jeff Crilly (N6ZFX)
AMIX Corporation  2345 Yale Street  Palo Alto, CA  94306
jeff@markets.amix.com, {uunet,sun}!markets!jeff, N6ZFX@N6IIU.#NOCAL.CA.USA