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From: q0239@whereis.Princeton.EDU (Peter A. Olenick)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Advertisement for visiting Canada
Date: 13 Apr 92 20:10:23 GMT
Organization: Princeton University - CIT
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

There have been a series of notes on the list about visiting Quebec and
the experiences some people have had because of language differences.
Because of these discussions, we are more informed travelers.  In some
of the notes posted on this subject, people have pointed to Quebec's
(and Canada's) history and culture being different than that of the
United States and that Americans should not expect Canada to be
the same as the USA.

The following are some lines extracted from a color two page advertisement
which appeared in The New York Times Magazine on Sunday, April 12, 1992.

"Ah, les canadiens.  The people of la belle province.  Quebec.
 We have these friendly folk to thank for so many things.  So you may
 well be suprised how fluent in francais you already are.  Though your
 English poses no problems to speak of.  To wit.  That special ambiance
 of their joie de vivre.  So nonchalant.  And so romantique."
 .
 .
 .
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 < more ad copy deleted >
 .
 .
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"And the only difficulty you'll encounter is saying adieu.  For free
 Canada guide call:  1-800-VISIT-92."

<I was unable to include the correct diacritics, but they did appear in
 the printed text.>

This type of advertisement does not prepare the average American tourist
for some of the surprises that can be encountered in Montreal.  We were
taken aback on our last visit (having only read the standard tourist
guides).  From the discussion on this list, we are more fully informed,
but many American visitors to Quebec may not be.  I can believe that
American tourists have a bad reputation, but some visitors to Quebec
may be misled by this type of tourist ad.  People sometimes react
poorly to unexpected situations.  Thus, some visitors have a less
pleasant visit and some Canadians have their view of the ugly American
tourist reinforced. Perhaps the Canadian Tourist Office folks should
read this newsgroup and become more attuned to the realities.
From: yrjola@ncse01.tele.nokia.fi
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Europe-USA-Europe
Date: 10 Apr 92 07:43:30 GMT
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.

In article <ku6e4tINNcno@bosque.cs.utexas.edu>, gert@cs.utexas.edu (Gert Westermann) writes:
> In article <1992Apr8.174414.4338@klaava.Helsinki.FI> plappala@klaava.Helsinki.F
>>
>>I'm not positive, but I've heard that could by your Europe-USA-Europe
>>ticket from the USA, for example New York and by doing that you would
>>get the ticket with the cheap american price.
>>So, if this is true, all you need is somebody to buy the ticket for you
>>in the US and send it to you.
> 
>   Is that true? Does anyone have any experience with that?
> 
>       -- Gert      gert@cs.utexas.edu

 I suppose so...

I don't have any experiences with travelling to USA, but I've done it
a couple of times when flying to Indonesia. The price with Finnair from
Helsinki to Singapore and further to Jakarta is over FIM 9.500 (USD 2.100)
when bought from Finland, but when my dad bought it for me from a travel
agent in Jakarta and sent it to me, it was around FIM 5.600 (USD 1.250).
 This was about a year ago and the ticket was valid for one year.
 (Just for the record, the price written in the ticket was the price when 
bought from Helsinki ie. over FIM 9.500.)

 Anyway, I'm leaving for SGP and Indonesia again on Sunday, and you can be
 sure that I haven't bought my tickets from Finland. 

Heading to sunshine and warm,
- Mika
From: woodside@nneph103.BNR.CA (Kevin Woodside)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Two Days In London
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:27:58 GMT
Reply-To: woodside@bnr.ca
Organization: Northern Telecom, Ottawa

I am planning a stopover in London for two nights (on the way
to Greece), and was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on
what to see within my time constraints.  I will be staying near
Russell Square (if that means anything to anyone).  Siteseeing
hints, theatre reccommendations, etc. would all be helpfull.
 
Thanks in advance.
 
Kevin

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From: sbonnema@mailbox.fwrdc.rtsg.mot.com (Stuart Bonnema)
Subject: AA New Fares
Organization: Fort Worth Research and Development Center, Motorola, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 15:05:55 GMT

In case you have not heard the details, AA is
changing their pricing schedule. Starting on
Monday, April 13th, there will be only 4 types
of fares (versus the 71(!) that now exist). 

The biggest reduction in prices will be for the
business travelers: from 27 to 50% in some cases.

For the rest of us, the advance purchase ticket
now requires 21 day advance purchase, and is, as
always non-refundable. It is, however, now "re-
useable" in that for $25 (each way, both ways?)
you can change your plans after you buy the ticket.
The fares on these advance purchase tickets will
be "lower" than current fares, but not by "as much
as the business reductions".

United has said that they will go along with this.

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From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Request advice for California coast trip
Date: 9 Apr 92 07:00:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32443
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


Send some kind of mail address that will work and I'll send
you the file I just typed in and the mailer bounced.
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Any clod can have the facts, but having opinions is an Art."
        Charles McCabe, San Francisco Chronicle
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From: Cessna@kn5f.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark T. Evert)
Subject: Colorado Dude Ranches
Organization: Loral Space Information Systems
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 13:39:38 GMT

My family is considering a vacation to Colorado in July and was wondering 
if anyone had any experience (good or bad) with Dude ranches out there.  
We are particularly interested in the Wilderness Trails Ranch near Durango.

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Xref: sparky rec.travel:5132 aus.wanted:358
From: alex@uniwa.uwa.oz.au (Alex Reid)
Newsgroups: rec.travel,aus.wanted
Subject: Re: car selling company in Sydney?
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:39:44 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of Western Australia

horst@tasman.cc.utas.edu.au () writes:
: Hi there,
: I'm looking for a phone number or address of a company based in Sydney.
: They sell old cars to tourists (mainly low budget travellers) with


Not exactly what you want, but I once used a rental car in Sudney froma
company called "Rent a Bent Bug" - very cheap, VWs, and it worked!

Alex.
Newsgroups: rec.travel
From: joyceruo@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com (Joyce E. Ruo)
Subject: COLORADO
Keywords: INFO.NEEDED	
Organization: IBM Advanced Workstations Division, Palo Alto
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 20:52:00 GMT

Hi,				
I've been reading this newsgroup for some time, however this is the first	time I've asked for information. My husband & I are planning a trip to  
Colorado sometime in July & would appreciate any advice/info. on the state.	We're thinking of driving from San Francisco instead of flying to make the	trip more economical & interesting. What are the highlights that we shouldn't
miss ? Any advice on accomodations/dining ?	

Your input would be most appreciated.
Thank you !	
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From: horne-scott@CS.YALE.EDU (Scott Horne)
Subject: Re: China border regulations
Organization: Computer "Science" Dept, Yale University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:40:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.192313.16804@yang.earlham.edu>, jeremiah@yang.earlham.edu writes:
<
<Anyone been to China recently?

No, but I can answer your questions.

<If they would allow an FM scanner

Yes.

<If they would allow a computer

Depending.  Call the consulate.

<If they are really asking for AIDS test results at customs

Yes.

					--Scott

-- 
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203 436-1848                Residence:  Rm 1848 Silliman College, New Haven, CT
ZANG4 HAN4 YI4 JIA1 / GONG4 JIAN4 ZHONG1HUA2!
From: phani@uts.amdahl.com (Phani Bodduluri)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Recommendations for Wknd stay either in Monterey or Caramel
Date: 6 Apr 92 21:08:40 GMT
Reply-To: phani@tde.uts.amdahl.com (Phani Bodduluri)
Distribution: ca
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

Hi --

I was going through Motorland magazine, every ad for these hotels say
they've nice view !!

I appreciate if you can suggest any B&B inns or hotels on the coast of
Monterey etc. which has really nice view and no surprises. And I am willing 
to spend around $100 per night. 

Thanks alot.

phani
From: krovetz@hobart.cs.umass.edu (Bob Krovetz)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Accomodations in Amsterdam/Copenhagen/Oslo
Date: 13 Apr 92 05:23:20 GMT
Reply-To: krovetz@cs.umass.edu (Bob Krovetz)
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst

I will be going to Amsterdam, Copenhagen, and Oslo
from June 14-27th.  Can anyone give me some recommendations
about places to stay?  I will be traveling on a student
budget, so I prefer to keep it relatively inexpensive.
I don't want to stay in a place where I have to share a
room, but I don't want a place like the Sheraton either.
For Amsterdam I was thinking of staying at the Hans Brinker
hotel.  I would also be grateful for restaurant recommendations.
I generally like spicy foods, and I would like to try out
an Indonesian place while I am in Amsterdam.

Thanks,
Bob

krovetz@cs.umass.edu
From: lascours@imag.fr
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Needed: Info on Florence
Date: 15 Apr 92 14:58:17 GMT


       Hi Janet,


 I spent a few days in Florence last year, and I really enjoyed it.

As for the "lodging", I went to the town-camping: it is on a hill over Florence, 
and you need hardly 1/4h to walk to the center of the town. 
 It is sometimes overcrowded but very convenient, and as a student it was all I
could afford.

 But what I wanted to say is that you must, of course, visit the famous museums
of Florence, but it would be a real pity not to visit Sienna.

 It is not very far from Florence, and it is really worth the trip; it was the 
part of my travel I enjoyed most. There are less museums than in Florence, but
the town and its streets have a charm you can't find in Florence.

     Don't miss it !


           Have a nice holiday,


                                    Helene
From: elm@cs.berkeley.edu (ethan miller)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Pinnacles (Re: Request advice for California coast trip
Date: 15 Apr 92 01:22:17
Organization: utter chaos
	<11920024@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM> <1992Apr15.064622.3714@berlioz.nsc.com>
Reply-To: elm@cs.berkeley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: terrorism.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: my@berlioz.nsc.com's message of 15 Apr 92 06:46:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.064622.3714@berlioz.nsc.com> my@berlioz.nsc.com (Mike Yip) writes:
=>In article chris@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Chris Bostak) writes:
=>>A place that a lot of people don't go to is Pinnacles (National?)
=>>Monument.  It's south of San Jose about an hour or so, I guess.  I has
=>>neat rocks to climb around and caves to go through.  ...
=>
=>The Pinnacles
=>Monument is actually (I think) a old old volcano being tore apart because
=>of the earthquake.  I think that the other half of the volcano remaining
=>is located north of San Francisco right now.

Actually, the other half of the volcano is called the Neenach
Formation, and is 195 miles southeast of Pinnacles NM.  From the map
in the park pamphlet, the formation appears to be a short distance
northeast of Los Angeles.

ethan
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From: pieter@cs.caltech.edu (Pieter Hazewindus)
Subject: Re: SPEEDING (where to do it)
Organization: California Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 17:39:01 GMT

kotecki@hpcndpc.CND.HP.COM (Karen Kotecki) writes:
[On cheap speeding tickets in Montana]
>
>Yea, it's true.  All you have to do is hand the patrolman
>$5.00 and you can be on your way again.  I don't know of any
>other place besides Montana where you can get away with this.

The other thing I heard is that the ticket is valid for a day.
In other words, if you get pulled over again, you just show the
cop your first ticket, and you hit the road.  Is this true?
(Montanans do tend to tell tall tales.)

Pieter Hazewindus				pieter@cs.caltech.edu
From: frank@wcsn.csms.com (Operator Apprentice WCSN)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Mexican cruise
Keywords: info needed
Date: 4 Apr 92 10:27:06 GMT
Organization: WCSN, Christian Science Mon. Synd., Scotts Corner, Maine, USA

Any Holland cruisers:
   
   On May 2,92 my wife and I are departing from Los Angeles on Hollands
New Amsterdam bound for Cabo San Lucas, Mazatlan & Puerto Valarta.
Being Maine raised and bound this experience will be quite an adventure.
   Has anyone got any prior experience in one of these cruises with any
helpful hints or certain areas of interest?
   Maybe someone that resides in or around one of these ports. Any info
at all would be much appreciated. The brochures thus far show these
Mexican ports to be very beautiful. Be awaiting for any replys.
    Postage gladly returned for U.S. Mail replies.
                   Thanks Much :
                                   Frank Hoskins
                                   Herald Broadcasting  ( WCSN )
                                   P.O. Box 130
                                   Costigan Me. 04423 
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From: nvecchi@boglia.cscs.ch (Nicole Vecchi)
Subject: London hotel needed
Followup-To: nvecchi@cscs.ch
Organization: Centro Svizzero di Calcolo Scientifico, CH-6928 Manno
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 15:40:19 GMT

I am planning on going to London for a week in the beginning
of June.  Does anyone have recommendations on inexpensive
hotels which are _clean_?

Thanks!
Nicole
From: arjay@philtis.cft.philips.nl (R.J. Kimmel)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: Driving into Czechoslovakia
Date: 15 Apr 92 08:22:33 GMT
Organization: Philips Centre For Technology, Eindhoven

kester@mte.ncsu.edu (Dan Kester) writes:

>In article <6272@public.BTR.COM> jbauman@btr.btr.com writes:
>>
>>I'll be driving around Europe this summer, and may want to
>>pop into Czechoslovakia.  Can we just show up at the border and drive
>>in, or do they still require visas etc.?  Thanks..
>>
>Try calling their embassy in Washington to find out.  You'll get more reliable
>info than you will on the net.  Also, ask a travel agent.  Their reservations
>computers have visa information.

I went to Czechoslovkia a few months ago, by train not car.  I am an
American citizen and my husband is a Dutch citizen.  Neither one of us
needed a visa, but we both went through the formality of several questions
before out passports were stamped.  (BTW, we went via Germany)

ArJay
From: 21329BJ@MSU
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Conference facility in St. Louis, MO
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:51:36 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University

My father is planning a reunion for his Navy buddies in St. Louis, MO
later this year.  The hotel where they plan to stay is not meeting his
needs regarding their conference rooms.  They are a small group, fifteen
or so.  I was wondering if anyone could recommend a conference facility
near the downtown area.  Thanks for any and all help!

--Barb
Barbara Johnson                             | "Are you an angel of
Michigan State University, East Lansing, MI |  mercy or a dance
 21329bj@ibm.cl.msu.edu                     |  instuctor?"
                                            |  --Bobs, _Iso & the Bobs_
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From: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Subject: Re: Motorcycling in Turkey,Afgahnistan,Pakistan,India
Keywords: Turkey,Afgahnistan,Pakistan,India,Nepal
Reply-To: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 15:15:52 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.190049.7679@descartes.waterloo.edu> b2chan@descartes.waterloo.edu (BC) writes:
> Hi Net!
> 
> About a week ago I posted a query for info about traveling
> by motorcycle from Turkey to Nepal. However, I haven't
> gotten any replies (except from someone who wanted me to 
> forward anything I heard).
> 
> Perhaps my questions were to specific? Anyway, I'll
> try again if you missed the first one.
> 

Perhaps you posted to the wrong group?  Try cross posting
to rec.motorcycles and I guarantee you will get a response.

This group is mostly for the cruise set.  ;->



-- 
Gary Wasserman      "A completely irrational attraction to BMW bikes"
Interleaf, Inc.      Prospect Place, 9 Hillside Ave, Waltham, MA 02154
grw@ileaf.com        617-290-4990x3423 FAX 617-290-4970       DoD#0216
From: mikes@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Mike Seibel)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:08:40 GMT
Subject: Re: Request advice for California coast trip
Organization: HP Network Measurements Div, Santa Rosa, CA
Newsgroups: rec.travel

The trip down Highway One is very nice. Some places on the way to consider
seeing are :

     Carmel -- very nice little town, sort of touristy with lots of shops
               and restaurants but worth seeing. Clint Eastwood used to
               be the mayor and owns a restaurant there (The Hog's Breath Inn)

     Monterey -- cool aquarium.

     Big Sur --  haven't been there personally but many who have say it is
               beautiful

     Hearst Castle -- (in San Simeon, I think)
            this is the very impressive estate of William Randolph
            Hearst (of the newspaper fame). It is hard to imagine anything
            more dacadent than this place -- gold everywhere, priceless
            works of art, huge rooms, etc. The place is so big that there
            are several tours showing different areas of the estate. I have
            been on 2 of the tours and found them fascinating. 

     San Luis Obispo -- very nice city about half way between LA and
            San Francisco.  Within an hour of Hearst Castle, so it is
            good stopover point on your trip. Nearby are several nice
            beaches. If you like hot tubs, there used to be a great place
            called Sycamore Springs where you could rent tubs nestled amongst
            the trees on a hillside....I don't know if it is still there.
            During the summer, Thursday nights are farmer's market night where
            the main street is turned into a street fair with food, drink and
            entertainment.
From: mike@isg.llnl.gov (Michael E. Hummell)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: ON-TIME PERFORMANCES (was: How reliable is American West Airlines?)
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:47:04 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Laboratory  Livermore, CA

In article <167BE11316.CHEGERH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> CHEGERH@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>G'day,
>      I will be flying American West Airlines from New York to LA to conect
>to an international flight out of LA. They are the cheapest I can get. Does
>anyone know how reliable they are? I do not wish to miss my connecting flight
>out of LAX. Are they currently under bankruptcy proceedings?  [...]
>      Gerald Cheang >      Dept of Statistics

I don't know about financial status (I think they ARE in chapter 11), but here
is the "Airline ON-TIME Performance" table in the April "Best Fares" magazine.
The source is listed as "Dept. of Transportation":

(Percent of flights on time in 1991)
Northwest     86.3%
America West  84.5%
Alaska        84.5%
USAir         84.5%
Southwest     84.3%
Pan Am*       83.5%    (* Ceased Flying)
American      83.4%
Midway*       82.8%   
Continental   81.4%
Delta         80.5%
TWA           79.2%
United        78.3%


I too get a little nervous connecting to overseas on separate tickets.
They don't have to make up your loss if the ticket's non-refundable.
Maybe take an "earlier" flight.   ...  Good Luck!

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From: elsworth@hekla.pnge.psu.edu (Derek Elsworth)
Newsgroups: rec.travel
Subject: Re: 6 hours in Toronto with 3 kids
Date: 14 Apr 92 16:34:35 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: PSU Petroleum Engineering

In article <1992Apr10.162647.14006@pony.Ingres.COM> cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris) writes:
>Another boring x hours in y question I'm afraid... It looks like I'm
>going to have a 6 hour stopover in Toronto this summer. What can I
>usefully do that will (i) keep kids aged 6,6 and 4 occupied, and (ii)
>tire them out so they'll sleep on the ensuing overnight flight?
>
There is a hands on science center/centre in Toronto that is very
good for kids. It is hands on so should keep them occupied. Unfortunately
it is not easy to get to.

Alternatively, if the weather is good, take them to The Beaches in
east Toronto. Lots of parks, lakeshore and a boardwalk.

There is also Ontario place to wander around at lakefront. Things like
a battleship and planes to climb around.

One final thought is the restaurant at the 'old' Pearson Airport
Terminal. It has huge plate glass windows and overlooks the runway and
some of the gates. Kids would love that. It is in one of the old terminals,
however. They are all connected by bus service (free).

>My (somewhat old) guidebook tells me there's no subway or other train
>between the international airport and the city center. Is that still
>the case? Are there any other relatively cheap ways for the five of us
>to get to the vicinity of the CN Tower (which seems like an obvious
>starting point)? Any other things we can do in that vicinity? Isn't
>the new baseball stadium near there and can one visit it?
>

There is an Airporter bus service that picks up from all of the
downtown hotels. The closest stop to the CN tower would be at the
Royal York Hotel. In 1984 it was $6.

>--
>Colin Morris       Ingres, an ASK company       cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com
>
>"Clive Thomas' decision was the watershed when we realised that
> referees were crazy egotists and mad people" -- 6:06
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