HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: g89r4222@kudu.ru.ac.za (Geoff Rehmet)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: complaints
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:44:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: kudu.g89r4222.721550647
Organization: Rhodes University, Grahamstown, South Africa

In <Z031TB1w165w@sizone.UUCP> spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep) writes:

>chalk@lablues.UUCP (Greg french) writes:

>> Why does everyone quote a 30 line message just to use it as an example to

.... remainder deleted

>Genius solution. Your post was number 653 here. Go read 653 and tell me
>what you see. Sheesh.

What I think he means is the Message-ID: field in the news header -
which SHOULD be unique.  (Go and look for message
Z031TB1w165@zisone.UUCP for your original post.)  I'm not suggesting
that this is an easy or comfortable solution.  Well I guess you could
just grep your news for the message id.  :-)
(Also have a look at the References: header in the post - that will lead
you to other messages in the thread!  Easier still - just go to the
directory where your news is stored, and grep for the subject of the
posting! 

On another note - why can't Tom Dell, as another mod to Waffle, limit
the length of .signatures to 4 lines!  That is another thing that adds
unnecessary length to Usenet posts.  (Taz@momad.uucp take note)

While I'm not posting from my private site at the moment - so I don't
feel the cost of this post in my own pocket - I feel for the guys who
are having to shell out lots of money to get all of their mail and news
via dialup.  (That's why I limit quite radically the amount of traffic
which goes to my private UUCP system.)

Cheers, Geoff.
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From: zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 09:52:29 CST
Reply-To: srcsip!tcscs!zeta
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

donal@brewich.hou.tx.us (Donal) writes:

> Maybe this is why I am not having the problem that everyone else is having.
> 
> In aliases I have 
>     wfs-list | post list.wfs 
> and in feeds I have
>     wfsout /local /batch=mail list.wfs
> then in lobpoll.bat which polls my smarthost I have
>     batch -swfsout -mwfs-list@birdsong.suvl.ca.us
> and everything works just fine! I post to list.wfs, it goes out to 
> wfs-list@birdsong.suvl.ca.us, he sends email to 
> wfs-list@brewich.hou.tx.us and it gets posted to list.wfs.
> 
I posted my method a couple of days ago (or did I email it to someone? I don't
remember right off...time to look at my logs :))  Anyway I'm doing it 
differently, only working with aliases and usenet, though I must admit
this method makes since, even though it is a little more complicated...

I am going to look into doing similar updates to my system and play with
this method.  

Thanks for posting this

Greg


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Posting to newsgroups you don't carry
From: bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe)
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 07:33:14 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: 1776 Enterprises, Sudbury MA

dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister) writes:
> eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder) writes:
> > -> It's fine when at least one of the groups you're posting to exists
> > -> locally, but when you try to post only to a group that doesn't exist,
> > -> it dumps you back to the prompt every time.
> > 
> > Why would you want to post to a newsgroup that you don't carry?
> 
> Read through junk sometime.....I have all sorts of interesting stuff show 
> up there that I can't justify adding to the newsgroup file ( full disk ), 
> but I want to reply to.
> 
> Also, I want to post to groups I can't get here ( Jobs wanted ), and this 
> causes a few problems....

I think we're missing an important point here.  What groups you carry is de-
termined entirely at your feed sites.  But Waffle will let you post to any 
group it *thinks* you carry.  If you want to post to a group, can't you just 
create an entry for it in your "forums" files?  You don't have to tell your
feeds.

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Robert K. Coe ** 14 Churchill St, Sudbury, Massachusetts 01776 ** 508-443-3265
From: zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: aliasing a.b.w->c.b.w considered harmful
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 19:36:10 CST
Reply-To: srcsip!tcscs!zeta
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

stanley@skyking.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley) writes:

> In article <kaaPTB7w165w@iowegia.uucp> kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) wri
> >Not a bad idea. But the overhead would be huge, wouldn't it? 
> 
> The 'overhead' would be trivial.
> 
> >I mean,
> >someone could set up an auto-resonder under Waffle using the Vacation
> >program, but getting everyone to route posts to that address would
> >be the trick. 
> 
> Just how do you have YOUR system set up? Do you pass news through mail?
> How else would you expect vacation to see it?
> 
> >How are auto responders usually set up?
> 
>    foreach i (newly-arrived-posting-to-group-x)
> 
>       get From address from i;
>       send mail to that address;
> 
>    end;
> 
> a pretty trivial thing to do. Even with DOS/Waffle. The only tricky
> part is getting the list of newly arrived postings to group X, and all
> that requires is creating a dummy feed to whom you send group X. Waffle
> will happily create a batch file listing the names of every new
> posting, which can be fed to perl to do the rest.
> 

Is anyone thinking of writing this?   I'm thinking about it, but if someone
has already started working on this, I'll work on other things.. :)

Greg


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: herrickd@iccgcc.decnet.ab.com (daniel lance herrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Modem Help request
Date: 6 Nov 92 12:41:53 EST

In article <H1cLTB3w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca>, davem@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave McCrady) writes:
>    If you don't want the Supra or any other modem to report negotiation,
> tell it so!  In the case of the Supra, ATW2.  That should produce the
> desired "CONNECT xxxx" message.

But I very much want my Zoom to report the full process of negotiation
and waffle et alia to log it somewhere so I can study it.  I was able to
figure out that when waffle said, "this makes me puke" and showed me the
text I just asked the modem to emit, it was telling me to turn off the 
useful stuff.  I wasn't terribly impressed with waffle's manners.

dan
From: bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Silly
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:11:24 GMT
Organization: Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA

william@cithara.uucp (William Ross) writes:

> Heres a little quirk to Waffle, hardly a big tho. If youre on locally
> and use the Alt-Q to exit your mail pointers won't update. Had me running
> in circles for a while.
> 
> Here's a silly question re: Waffle.
>                       
> I wanna use the cookie (~%C) variable paramater thingie in my .sigfiles
> But it doesen't seem to work.Why? <:-(.
> 
The sig routines use a simple file concatenation to the end of messages,
and bypasses any waffle intrinsic features. In other words, you can't
do it.

However, there are a few programs around (APPSIG comes to mind) that will
rotate sig files from a single file containing a number of signatures.

Usenet Axiom #101: The larger the signature, the smaller import of the post.

--- 
Bob Kirkpatrick <bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us>
Dog Ear'd Systems of Spokane, WA
From: mathew <mathew@mantis.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Has Anyone Gotten Waffle/Sun to Work using a NULL Modem Cable?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 12:48:50 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Mantis Consultants, Cambridge. UK.

frank@odetics.com (Frank Merrow) writes:
> I have a Waffle PC tied to my Sun via a NULL modem cable (rather than a
> real modem).  The goal is to use Waffle as a "Novel Email Bridge".

Is the Sun a SPARCstation?  Running SunOS 4.1.1 or thereabouts?  Have you
applied the kernel patches to fix the serial handling?

> 1. If on the Sun side I turn "off" having the software look at DCD
>    then the getty latches onto the port.  In this case if I ask
>    Waffle to Poll, the two uucico talk fine and transport files/email.
>    The problem with this mode is that the getty will NOT let go of
>    the port, so I can NOT get the Sun system to call the Waffle system!

Did you set up the port definitions properly to make it share the port
bidirectionally?  (This is definitely the way to go, by the way.  Software
DCD is a bad move.)


mathew
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From: fenner@snobol.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: (DOS) Password file structure.... v1.65
Date: 5 Nov 92 04:24:48 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <1992Nov05153130patrick@sideways.welly.gen.nz> Pat Cain <cain_p@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz> writes:
|This was the structure for one of the earlier betas, not sure if it's
|the same now.

I just want to point out something about this pass.h file:

|  unshort _down;		/* download #	*
|  unshort quota;		/* disk quota k	*/

quota is essentially commented out.  Fix the comment at the end of the
previous line, and remove the quota line.  There is currently no quota
element in the 1.65 password structure.

Also, the flags structures at the end (_Files, etc.) are in the wrong order.
I posted a fixed version some time ago, but it didn't make it into the FAQ,
so I'll post it again soon.

  Bill
Xref: sparky comp.bbs.waffle:4048 comp.os.os2.apps:8097 comp.os.os2.misc:36017
From: zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.os.os2.apps,comp.os.os2.misc
Subject: UUPC 1.11w and NEWS
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 09:06:52 CST
Reply-To: srcsip!tcscs!zeta
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

I've got UUPC 1.11w and I'm going to go ahead and install it...what I was
wondering is if anyone can tell me what is a good threaded news reader or
news system to use with it. 

I have snews190, though I had heard something about TRN and a couple of 
others.  

I'd like to know what version the software is currently at, where I can 
get it (ftp and/or mail-server), if source code is available, and your
impression of the program, especially if your using it.

Thanks in advance
Greg


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From: zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 17:00:31 CST
Reply-To: srcsip!tcscs!zeta
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

eoin@xocolatl.com (John F. Snyder) writes:

> zeta%tcscs@idss.nwa.com (Gregory Youngblood) writes:
> 
> -> In theory this should work.  
>       ^^^^^^
> Yes, but theory is not proving out in practice.
> 
In practice it does work (on my system).  

In theory it will work on other systems. :)



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From: dalew@twiki.UUCP (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,alt.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Port waffle for OS/2 ?
Date: 10 Nov 92 21:24:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: twiki.4aL2TB3w165w
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> RTFM.  In particular, read DOS-WAF.AD.  You will find that the list of
> sources available for purchase does not include uucico and such.  Why?

  It's because the source to the uucico for Waffle is FREE and Tom can't
charge for it.  I just took another look at DOS-WAF.AD and everything seems
to be listed except the uucico and other mail import/export stuff (rmail,
uuxqt, etc.).  However, it also says the source "looks something like" just
before the list so exclusion of anything doesn't mean it isn't available.

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From: nguyen@spectrx.saigon.com (nguyen duong)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: News/mail reader
Date: 10 Nov 92 22:31:16 GMT
Organization: SPECTROX SYSTEMS (408)252-1005 Silicon Valley, Ca

My reader (Waffle internal reader) does not let me read the
top 2 lines. It also skip top 2 lines for the next page. Is there a way to 
configure the screen display to show 2 line less so it only
display 20 or 22 lines per page.
What is the Chrome? Where to get it?
Thanks.

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From: kilgore@obelisk.pillar.com (Stan Hall)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Transferring mails to a newsgroup
Date: 11 Nov 92 06:33:18 GMT
Organization: Pillar Communications, Oklahoma City, Ok


 My turn, 

waffle/system/aliases:
     test-list    | post list.test 
     # put this in a file if you would like
     test-addr    user1 user2 user3 

waffle/system/usenet:
     list.test
     
waffle/system/feeds:
     testbat /batch=mail list.test

waffle/bin/poll.bat: (or wherever you batch your news/mail)
     batch -stestbat -mtest-addr

   This is the way I had originally set up some mailing on my site but
   then instead of calling BATCH I now call my own program, MBATCH, which 
   also allows me to mangle headers (reply-to, from:, etc.) so you can
   set the replies to the list or the original poster and that sort of
   thing.  Plus you get the advantage of not having Waffle ask if you 
   want to post to a moderated group for local postings (unless you want 
   to).  Also you have rmail handling the alias expanding.  As usual if 
   anyone is interested in such a program drop me a note and I may even
   write some documentation.

   Kilgore


   Kilgore



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From: taz@momad.UUCP (Sysop)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: 'newgroup' control messages
Keywords: newgroup control file message waffle bbs
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 04:13:30 -0500
Reply-To: taz%momad@infoserv.com
Organization: MoDeM MaDnEsS BBS   1-516/295-9435

In <Bx7FEH.21u@cs.psu.edu> fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:
>In article <9E28qAYLBh107h@momad.UUCP> taz%momad@infoserv.com writes:
>|In <gHVDTB3w165w@iowegia.uucp> kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:
>|>taz@momad.UUCP (Sysop) writes:
>|>> In starting a new news.group, does WAFFLE 1.65 support the control-file
>|>> 'newgroup'???
>|>Nope. Ya gotta manually put the new newsgroups in a forum file.
>|How do I do that????????

>Try an editor.

I know that!  What I want to know is, what is the format, what
headers are used, etc....



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From: rml@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (Dr.Ross Lazarus)
Subject: Re: Waffle-Pmail
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:41:25 GMT

hho@chaph.usc.edu ("** N.T.K.C.D. ***") writes:


>     Novel -> Pmail -> PegWaf -> Waffle ------UUCP------  SUN

>That is my UUCP connection is about 5 miles away.
>Pegwaf is a program by Dr. ROss in Aust. that translate betwee
>Pmail <-> Waffle

That's W165PEG3.zip by me. It should appear on the simtel archives real
soon now. It's free and works with 1.65 waffles and 2.3x pmail. It takes a
working waffle connected to a smart mail host and allows pmail users to
transparently send and receive internet mail.

>For your part, if I understand, your SUN is hardwire to the Novell net?
>through ethernet? :-)
>THen Pmail has a SMNP (somthing like that) gateway, that
>connect to Charon then charon connect directly to your SUN..
>Simple and fast..
>Charon has to be install on one of the local Novell node

If your novell network has a workstation with direct tcp/ip internet
connectivity (i.e. 2 ethernet cards, one on the internet) then you can use
Brad Clement's Charon SMTP gateway with pmail to gate email to and from the
internet. Charon uses netware printer queues and can support up to 8
interconnected netware servers. My asynchronous waffle gateway supports an
unlimited number of internetworked netware servers without the expense of MHS.
If you have a direct ethernet internet link, get charon. Otherwise get
waffle and my UDG kit.
From: morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: uucico and a whole lot of other stuff...
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 10:05:55 EST
Organization: the pickle factory at Langley, Virginia

roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail) writes:

> A program?  You can do it with a single command line.
> 
> Hacker, indeed.  Humph!
> 
> :-) :-) :-)

Peh.  I just edit the file in /news/alt/hackers.... works for me.


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                   Who do you trust when everyone's a crook?
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From: system@hale.cts.com (System Administration)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: To a land far, far away....
Date: 12 Nov 92 10:48:55 GMT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications Inc.

Cheesy Humanitarian Request;

Are there any Waffle systems significantly distant from San Diego
interested in piping "local" traffic via mail as sort of a
closed forum between users at each site?

I figured it would be a nice bridge between stuck talking to the locals 
and those apprehensive about diving into the net lest the water be cold.

Most of my users just read, the the ones who post alot usually generate 
hate mail, the rest are just lost no matter how much documentation I put 
online, and don't get into the swing of things until I get a chance to 
break in on them and give pointers.  (I know, a run on sentance....)
From: kate@ponton.hanse.de (Katharina Baumann)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Ansi in 1.65...
Keywords: ANSI Terminal Screen I/O
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 12:16:06 MEZ
Distribution: world
Organization: Ponton European Media Art Lab, Hamburg

chorn@eastwind.mcds.com (Christopher Horn) writes:

> gwp@dithots.Gwinnett.COM (George W. Pogue) writes:
> 
> >   OK, maybe this has been answered before, but I'll ask anyway...
> > 
> >   I had 1.64 running with ANSI colors and stuff and now with 1.65
> >   all my menus and stuff simply show the escape sequences. I have the
> >   same commands in my static file as before... is there something I've
> >   missed? I read all the documentation but haven't found any answers yet.
> 
> Same thing I got when I tried setting up ANSI with 1.65. I tried four
> different ANSI drivers, several kinds of ANSI screens (some with cursor
> control codes, some with onle the color ones), and grepped the docs for
> ansi, vt100, etc.. a number of times thinking maybe I missed something
> somewhere along the line. Even forced all the bios screen writes to go
> through one of the ANSI drivers, and that didn't work. Looks like Waffle
> will only do direct screen writes now, but I'm not sure.
> 
> I asked, but really got nowhere with answers either. Seems a lot of people
> just don't like ANSI for some reason, or nobody seems to know.
> 


Well, maybe they like it, but what for? Look, Waffle 1.64 only
gives ANSI-Colors on the console and nowhere else. That looks
nice, but only the sysop will see it :). The "normal" ansi-mode,
that allows you to make inverted lines, is easily to set up in
the static-file. I think this will be the same with Waffle 1.65.

kate


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From: spooge@sizone.UUCP (Cyberpolka On Da Jeep)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: YES! a _GOOD_ mail > newsgroup kludge.
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 03:16:56 EST
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552

YES! It works! And with an external editor (QEDIT) as well!

This was so obvious, I hereby decree that everyone on here who was
into this thread kick themselves at noon tuesday GMT. (What a feeling,
imagining that many people kicking themselves at the same time...)

Here's how I setup my mailing list KLUDGE so I get to see the posts as
well on my local newsgroup.

ON TOP OF THAT... well, lets not give it away too fast...

/system/aliases:

listpost       | post local.list
members        + /system/members
list           | /waf/bin/rmail -u%A members


/system/members:

member1
member2
memberN
memberN
listpost


And it WORKS! On top of it (this is the on top of part that makes it
better than when WAFFLE itself is working) - you get the added bonus of
having 2-3 addresses per .X file, so you have to Xfer alot fewer files
than there are members of the list!

This solution is even suggested at in the DOCs, if I remember correctly.
Not marked as a solution as the bug was unknown, but it was hinted at
that RMAIL would be very powerful for use in mailing lists, and that it
could mail LOCAL users (or _ALIASES_ in /system/aliases) as well as
bundle three or so addresses in every outgoing file.

This is so obvious, I feel that someone else must have posted it and I
managed to ignore it, or has written something and it hasn't arrived
yet. Apologies in case.

/kc

Ken Chasse - Sonic Interzone, Toronto Ont. * Inet: sizone!spooge@ee.ryerson.ca
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