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From: march@nynexst.com (Gregory F. March)
Subject: *** Price Reduction: Amiga 2000 FOR SALE with goodies ***
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 03:20:36 GMT

Since I am not up on the Amaga world, I had no idea what a resonable
price was for this machine. I was informed, if you can call it that
:-(, that the original price was too high. I mentioned it to my friend
and he has decided to drop the price of the CPU by $400 and the price
of the monitor by $100. The software (since nobody complained about
that) is still the same price. If these prices are still out of line,
a simple message stating "these prices are still out of line" to *my*
email address would be appreciated.

Thanks...

greg


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			 AMIGA 2000 FOR SALE

Features Included
-----------------

	* XT Bridgeboard installed with 640K RAM & 5 1/2" floppy drive

	* 48mb hard drive partitioned with 24mb for both the Amiga and
	  XT PC - Bridgeboard acts as HD controller

	* 1 External 3 1/2" floppy drive with cable

	* Flicker Fixer installed

ORIGINAL:	$2,700
WAS ASKING:	$1,300
NOW ASKING:	$  900


Also Available
--------------

	* 16" Princeton Multisync Color Monitor

ORIGINAL:	$1,000
WAS ASKING:	$  500
NOW ASKING:	$  400

   (NOTE: Monitor available only after computer sells or with Amiga)


Available Software
------------------

Amt ($)		Title
----------------------------------------------------
  15		688 Attack Sub
  15		Battlehawks 1942
  15		Budokan
  15		Code-Name: ICEMAN
   5		Destroyer
   5		Falcon Mission Dsk 1 - Counterstrike
   5		Falcon Mission Dsk 2 - Firefight
  15		F/A - 18 Interceptor
  15		Lords of the Rising Sun
   5		Project D
  25		Publisher Plus
   5		Rambo III
   5		Renegade
  10		Romantic Encounters at the Dome

...and some PD software at $1.00 per disk:

Ami Exchange #1: Text Adventure, Steinschlag (Tetris)
Ami Exchange #2: M.I.P.S., Guru
Amiga Res.: Laser Chess, Power Poker, Art Gal., X-Ray, Mr. Gadget
Amiga World: Vector Object, Shark, Moire, Chartmaster
Amiga World: Calendar Publ., Piston, Surround Cycles, Clip Art
Amigo Times: Misc. Tools, MyMenu, Mono, Music, Telecomm
Facc II: Faction Interface
FCAUG: #55: SID, Keybiz, #DLook, Scroll, CLI Stuff
FCAUG: #56: Tetrix, I-Man, Zow, Show Disk, X-Color, Video Lib.
FCAUG: #59: Zap, Snap, Smart Icon, Puzzles, Wheel of Fortune
FCAUG: #60: Tetris, MakeFastMem, Icon Maker, Pointer Animator
FF-134: Big Throws, Browers, DME, Find, Smart Icon
FF-256: Blit Deamons, Word Game, Stevle (editor)
FF-321: Whereis, Planets
FF-50: Missile Command, Perf Sound, Sizzlers, Wombat, DiskZap
FF-59: Browser, Super Mort, Clock Pointer
GA-10: Space War, Slot Cars, Craps, Tardis
GA-17: Obsessomatic, Gunslinger, Rocket, Train
HMS-26: Aquarium-all Fred Fish listings
Star Trek (3 disks)
Workbench 1.3.2
Q-Mouse

==============================================================================

If you are interested, please call Gary Chorsky at (914) 277-5932 in
the evenings. I'd prefer it if you called him directly, but I will
relay any responses.


-- 

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Gregory F. March    march@nynexst.com
Newsgroups: misc.forsale
From: levitt@slc.slac.stanford.edu
Subject: 1967 Porsche 911, yours for $7500
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:32:02 GMT

                               1967 Porsche 911
                               ================

        Yes, I'm afraid it's the Porsche owner's lament again; "Must sell car
due to growing family" (It's still better than the "Must sell; getting married"
classified I once saw).

        It's in good condition, and has served me well these past 15 months.
It has all the original equipment including radio, but what's *really* important
is that it's bright red with lots of shiny chrome.

	Make me an offer around $7,500 for this classic example of German
engineering, or give me a call to arrange to see it (in Palo Alto).

-----------------------------------------+--------------------------------------
The ignorance expressed here is my own.  | Steve Levitt
It is not neccessarily the ignorance of  | LEVITT@SLC.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
SLAC, Stanford University or the DoE.    | (415)926-4738
-----------------------------------------+--------------------------------------
From: cj137@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jack Jeffries)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale
Subject: ** DOCTOR WHO the Unfolding Text ONLY $5 **
Date: 4 Jan 1993 00:00:16 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


Doctor Who book "The Unfolding Text" for only $5
From: James.Porter@mechanic.fidonet.org (James Porter)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale
Subject: Hard drives for sale
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 92 15:08:34 PDT
Organization: Mechanic: The Usenet<->Fidonet Gateway oF St. Pete Florida

I have the following Quantum SCSI Hard Drives for sale.  These are units
I took in trade when upgrading existing systems.  They are in external
drive cases that measure 12"x12"x2", they include all cables, they will
come formatted and warrantied against DOA.  All the units still have
outstanding Quantum warranty time left from several months to a year.
Price does not include shipping.

Quantum ProDrive 84 Meg $260          Quantum LPS 80 Meg      $250
Quantum LPS 105 Meg     $280          Quantum LPS 52 Meg      $200

Additional I have:

Rodime 150 Meg SCSI                         $225
Rodime 150 Meg SCSI                         $225
Kalok 40 Meg IDE                            $115

James Porter
Porter Consulting Services
(813) 345-7297
___
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From: drparul@interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu (TRANSCEND  G O D)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale
Subject: forsale 84 fuego-renault 2.2 ltr.
Date: 3 Jan 1993 13:12:45 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: interceptor.ksu.ksu.edu

 I have 84 Fuego-Renault for sale
        2.2 ltr.
        4 cylinder
        fuel injection
        ac  
        86000 miles
        no rust
        silver colour with black outlines
        looks great

     

shri j k


:wq  

Newsgroups: misc.forsale
From: gryphon@openage.openage.com (The Golden Gryphon)
Subject: 486DX2/33 WANTED!
Organization: Open Age, Inc.
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 02:22:24 GMT


I have a Compaq 486sx/16 that is upgradeable to a 486DX2/33.  I am interested
in knowing if anyone has one of these for sale.

-- 
The Golden Gryphon 				gryphon@openage.COM
"Mad Scientists seeks mindless brawny assistants, good pay, quiet location."
"They're not ghosts,  they're metaphysically challenged." - Me
Openage - The Premier SCO UNIX integrator in the Washington D.C. area
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From: byu@remus.rutgers.edu (Bob Yu)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale,nj.forsale,ny.forsale
Subject: FORSALE: Misc. Electronics Books CHEAP
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:43:33 GMT
Followup-To: misc.forsale
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



ELECTRONICS EQUATIONS HANDBOOK - New Condition
    by Stephen J. Erst
    p. 245  Retail $16.95                         $6 + s/h

SOLID-STATE ELECTRONICS THEORY - New Condition (Hard Cover)
    by M. J. Sanfilippo
    p. 330  Retail $25.95                         $10 + s/h

49 BATTERY-POWERED ONE-IC PROJECTS - New Condition (Hard Cover)
    by Delton T. Horn
    p. 162 Retail $19.95                          $9 + s/h


All three books for $15 + shipping/handling
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Xref: sparky misc.forsale:34304 misc.forsale.wanted:550
From: barman@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Dilip Barman)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale,misc.forsale.wanted
Subject: June 1992 Playboy wanted
Date: 30 Dec 92 19:17:39 GMT
Followup-To: misc.forsale
Distribution: usa
Organization: The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill


Does anybody have a copy of the June 1992 issue of Playboy for sale?
I'm looking for this issue but it's no longer available through Playboy.
Thanks.

     Dilip
-- 
  Dilip Barman
  Dept. of Computer Science:		Home:			
  University of North Carolina		5129 Oakbrook Drive
  Sitterson Hall 365, CB 3175		Durham, North Carolina 27713-8005
From: zhimin@unssun.nevada.edu (Zhimin Chen)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale
Subject: Framework II for trade or sale
Date: 31 Dec 92 02:23:07 GMT
Reply-To: zhimin@unssun.nevada.edu (Zhimin Chen)
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

Framework II, an integrated package that contains word-processing, spreadsheet,
database, and communications functions.
Will trade for Mac software or sell for $100 plus shipping.
I'll take the latest version of Claris works MS works, Superpaint 3.0 or offer
stuff that roughly matches Framework II.

Also a brand-new Curtis anti-static dust cover for Macintosh II and FX with extended keyboard. Will sell for $22 or trade for a software like a GO Master game.
From: lagaipa@mondec.monmouth.edu (Joseph A. La Gaipa)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale
Subject: Petri 35mm camera forsale, make offer
Date: 22 Dec 92 02:41:37 GMT
Distribution: usa


Petri FTEE Fully Automatic 35 mm CAMERA (223408) including
 the camera body, 2 lenses, and case.  The lenses are:

1) CC Petri 1:1.8 f=55mm No. 57714 Petri Camera Co. Inc EE Auto
    and
2) Telephoto C.C Petri 1:3.8/135  81633 Petri EE Auto, Includes case.

All Made in Japan

The camera works fine in manual mode but the light meter
doesn't seem to be working.  Willing to sell to the highest
offer for little more than the value of the lenses.

Reply with offer to:

      
       Joseph A. LaGaipa, Director of Computer Services
                          Monmouth College, West Long Branch, N.J. 07764
                         at (908) 229-8410 (home)
                            (908) 571-3551 (work) 
          Internet   lagaipa@mondec.monmouth.edu

Newsgroups: misc.forsale
From: mcobb@scott.skidmore.edu (mary cobb)
Subject: WANTED: Acoustic Guitar
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:11:36 GMT

I would like to purchase an acoustic guitar that is in good working condition.
Please email me.
 
Eric
Newsgroups: misc.forsale
From: rsnappy@hydra.unm.edu (Roger Snappy Rubio)
Subject: Cycling Helmet FOR SALE
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 21:15:29 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

I have a Rhode Gear Cycling Helmet to sell.  It's the styrofoam kind,
and it can fit all heads (has special pads for sizing).  It's been sitting
aroung in my closet, still in the box, doing nothing, so it's virtually
new and unused.  Asking $30 firm.  If you're interested, e-mail me at:

	rsnappy@hydra.unm.edu

Newsgroups: misc.forsale
From: jmilhoan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (JT)
Subject: *** FOR SALE: Guitar ***
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:30:49 GMT

Yamaha APX 9-12 Acoustic/Electric Stereo/Mono  Guitar

- 12 string

- Natural "sunburst" coloring with black back

- volume, bass, treble, and mix (see below) knobs

- mono or 2 stereo modes
  This is a little hard to explain... you can select which pair of strings go to either the left or right side.

  In the first mode, pairs 1, 2, and 3 go to the left and 4, 5, and 6 go to the right.

  In the second mode, pairs 1, 3, and 5 go to the left, and 2, 4, and 6 go to the right.

  There is also a mixer switch to blend them across the stereo field, so rather than each group being assigned exclusively to each side, they can be spread out for some really cool effects.

  For example, with no mixing it may look something like this:

  left --=> 123               456  <=-- right
                      ^
                      |
                   listener

  But WITH mixing, effects like this can be achieved:

  left --=> 1   2   3   4   5   6  <=-- right
                      ^
                      |
                   listener


This thing is in MINT condition.  When I bought it, it took 6 months to get it in because of backorder.  It has only been out of the house once and that is when I moved 5 miles away.  Im only selling it because I need the money and 
don't have any time to devote to music anymore.


Best offer (within reason... please don't offer $100 because I paid over
            $1,100)

Thank you,
JT Milhoan







Newsgroups: misc.forsale
From: wb@tornado.kodak.com (wb@tornado.kodak.com)
Subject: FOR SALE: EZ Vision Sequencer For Macintosh
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp. (Telstar), Rochester, N.Y. 14653
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 12:44:08 GMT



FOR SALE: Opcode(MAC) sequencing software: EZ Vision - $60

Great beginner's sequencing software for the MAC. Has graphical
editing and other sophisticated features...

Does NOT do time code...

I will pay shipping...

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Wendell Bigelow, Software Engineer
Office Imaging			
Printing Systems Electronics
Eastman Kodak, Rochester New York
Internet: wb%tornado@tornado.kodak.com
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From: richard.vernick@satalink.com (Richard Vernick)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale
Subject: CALL Apartments On-Line
Date: 2 Jan 93 15:33:00 GMT
Reply-To: richard.vernick@satalink.com (Richard Vernick)
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434


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Philadelphia, PA 19147
Te: (215) 463-3792                                  (C) Copyright 1992

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Newsgroups: misc.forsale
From: jamull01@starbase.spd.louisville.edu (Joseph A. Muller)
Subject: Shogun Warriors (toys) for sale
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 02:05:14 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville


   I have four Shogun Warriors for sale to the highest bidder.  For the
 uninformed these were put out by Mattel in the late 70's and manufactured
 in Japan by Bandia.  They are in EXCELLENT conidtion and I still have the
 original boxes (although not in as good condition as the toys themselves :)
 These currently list for $150 *apeice*, but as I mentioned earlier I will
 sell them to the highest bidder.  Serious offers only please.  I could easily
 get $100/each for these at my local flea market but I thought I might give
 some other collectors out there a chance to pick these up.  I have the 
 following for sale:
		     Magzinga
		     Raydeen
		     Gaiking
		     Daimos
All four toys are ~ 2 feet tall and have movable arms and heads, feature
missle launchers, launchable arms, swords, etc.   Would make a nice addition
to any Mech fan's collection.
  I also have a Godzilla Shogun Warrior, but I do not yet have a listing for it.  

Send all replies via e-mail.
Newsgroups: misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,misc.forsale.computers.workstation,comp.sys.sun.wanted,ne.forsale,5col.forsale
From: kimmel@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Matt Kimmel)
Subject: FOR SALE: Color SPARCstation 1 system 16/210 w/CDROM
Organization: University of Massachusetts, Amherst
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:34:35 GMT

FOR SALE: SPARCstation 1 (Sun 4/60) system.  Includes the following
          goodies/features:
		o SPARCstation 1 CPU in pizza-box case
		o 16 megs RAM
		o Two Quantum 105S (105 meg) internal SCSI hard drives
		o 1.44meg 3.5" floppy drive, will read MSDOS disks
		o Thick ethernet
		o SCSI, two RS232, speaker, microphone, keyboard ports
		o Standard Sun keyboard
		o Sun optical mouse
		o SunOS 4.1.2 installed
		o 16" analog RGB monitor with 8-bit color graphics card
		o Sun external SCSI CD-ROM drive (will read Sun's
		  proprietary-format CDs), with three caddies.
		  (Includes SCSI cable and terminator)
		o Solaris 1.1 (SunOS 4.1.2 and OpenWindows 2) CD-ROM
		o Openwindows 3 / XGL CD-ROM
		o Walnut Creek GNU/X11R5 CD-ROM
		o Walnut Creek source code (comp.sources.*, alt.sources)
		  CD-ROM

This is a nice little system and makes an ideal personal workstation
or small multiuser system.  It's in mint condition and everything is
in perfect working order.  I'm asking $3500 plus shipping or best offer
for the whole system; I'll deliver it within ~100 miles of here
(Amherst, MA).  If you're interested, please e-mail me!

-Matt
-- 
Matt Kimmel		Networking Assistant		Univ. of Mass.

Personal mail:   kimmel@titan.ucc.umass.edu
Network-related: kimmel@nic.umass.edu
From: victor@cae.wisc.edu (Victor Ng)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale
Subject: MOVING SALE (NEW)
Date: 30 Dec 92 20:53:58 GMT
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

I am going to leave Madison before January, there are some REAL good
stuff being sold to you.

1. '86 TOYOTA MR2
	- Standard Transmission
	- fully loaded w/ air conditioner and stereo
	- 94000 miles
	- Distinguished BRIGHT METALLIC BLUE
	  (most probably the only one in Campus or Madison Area)
	- Excellent performance and condition
	- Including CUSTOMIZED mini headlight
   ASK FOR: $4200.00 o.b.o.

2. PC 386DX / 25MHz w/ EPSON LQ-510 24-PIN PRINTER
	- 4M RAM
	- 12" VGA color monitor
	- 65M HD (doubled by Stacker 2.0), 1.44M and 1.2M Floopy Drivers
	- Virus Protection by NORTON ANTIVIRUS & CENTRAL POINT ANTIVIRUS
	- Fully Loaded w/ MSDos 5.0, MS Window 3.1, Word for Window 2.0,
	  and most of other popular softwares.
 	- Accessories including: Microsoft Mouse, 2400 Baud Ext. Modem,
	  Power Director w/ Surge Protection, 3-level Computer Desk,
	  Chair

   ASK FOR: $950 o.b.o.

In addition, a lot of nice stuff are on sale at price as low as $1.00.
These include some books (mostly computer-related books), writing desk, 
table lambs, magazine rack etc.

Please contact VICTOR NG: (608)238-7128, (608)256-3863 or victor@cae

Hope to see you soon.

Thank you for your consideration.
Xref: sparky misc.forsale:33889 misc.forsale.computers:43957 comp.sys.atari.st:18717
From: djs@jet.uk (David J Stevenson)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,comp.sys.atari.st,jet.atari
Subject: ST Software clearout - Low prices!
Date: 21 Dec 92 09:30:09 GMT
Organization: Joint European Torus

I am having a clearout of Atari ST software I no longer use, and offer these
for sale.  Some are almost free (ie I am asking no more than it would cost me
to post them to you).

E-mail to djs@jet.uk if you want any of these items, or have any queries.

All prices are in **GBP** and include postage in UK.


Calligrapher *Gold* (inc GDOS + scalable fonts)         75.00

Mark Williams C  v3                                     20.00

Mark Williams C source debugger                         10.00

NeoDesk 2                                               10.00

Warp 9 screen accelerator                               10.00

Fontkit Plus 3 (Good GDOS font editor)                   8.00

TurboST v1.84 screen accelerator                         6.00
   
Word Up 1.5 WYSIWYG word processor (inc GDOS)            8.00
   
Word Flair  WYSIWYG word proc with some simple
 database and spreadsheet functions (inc GDOS)           8.00

Lattice Assembler v12 (inc good documentation)           6.00

HiSoft Saved (Ramdisk+spooler+formatter etc accessory)   2.50

HyperDraw (vector drawing package, inc GDOS)             2.50

HyperPaint (bitmap drawing package, inc GDOS)            2.50

All are genuine originals, with master disks and manuals.


-- 
+---------------------------------------------------+
| David Stevenson  djs@jet.uk   Tel: +44 235 465028 |
+---------------------------------------------------+
- Disclaimer: Please note that the above is a personal view and should not 
  be construed as an official comment from the JET project.
Newsgroups: misc.forsale,osu.for-sale,rec.photo
From: ksampath@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Krishna S Sampath)
Subject: ***sold*** bogen 3040 tripod with 3047 head.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 19:36:40 GMT

thanks for the overwhelming interest in this beast. 
it has been sold.

krishna
-- 
krishna s. sampath....graduate research assoc.....kss@ampere.eng.ohio-state.edu
ohio state u, electroscience lab......(614) 292-7981 (w)....(614) 292-7297  (f)
1320 kinnear rd, columbus, oh 43212...(614) 293-0913 (h)...011-91-4542-4127 (H)
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Newsgroups: misc.forsale
From: vpillai@vms.ucc.okstate.edu
Subject: ** CD's FOR SALE _ CORRECTION*****
Organization: Oklahoma State University Computer Center
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 03:20:51 GMT

There is a correction in the article no 6151

The price quoted  are $12 for each of the CD's
Thank you

VELUPILLAI
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From: anshu@cs.utexas.edu (Anshuman Goyal)
Newsgroups: misc.forsale,misc.forsale.computers,austin.forsale,misc.books.technical
Subject: sale of CS books
Keywords: ?
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:08:58 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: usa
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: victoria.cs.utexas.edu


   The following books are available for sale

   1) Introduction to Automata theory, languages        good      $15 obo
   & computation -Hopcroft, Ullman (softbound)

   2) The design of Unix OS -Maurice j Bach             new       $25 obo
   (softbound)- 1992

   3) Elements of Discrete Mathematics -C.l.Liu         good      $25 obo
   2nd Edition  (softbound)

   4) Artificial Intelligence & design of Expert      good   $20 obo
   systems -luger & Stubblefield (hardbound)

   5) Principles of Programming Languages -Tennent       good    $10 obo
   (softbound)

   6)The C programming Language -Kernigham & ritchie    new      $25 obo
   2nd Edition

   7) Computer Architecture & Parallel Processing       good     $25 obo
   Hwang&Briggs     1989

   8)Parallel Program Design - A foundation 1988         good     $20 obo
   Chandy Misra


   You can contact me by email at
   anshu@cs.utexas.edu

   AG
-- 
Anshuman Goyal
Newsgroups: misc.forsale