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From: zaphod@bluemoon.rn.com (Peter Bierman)
Subject: Re: new Inside Mac : Pascal or C ?
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 23:37:00 EDT

> > (Patrick Stadelmann) most innocently writes...
> > > 
> > > Does anyone know if the new Inside Mac will be written in C or in Pascal 

It's _full_ of examples (I have a few draft copies), and it's _mostly_ in 
Pascal. But they say that it'll have both C and Pascal in the interface 
sections.


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From: howes@jomby.cs.wisc.edu (Glenn Howes)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: How to increase the download speed in Kermit by high speed modem
Date: 26 Jul 92 10:14:58 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.


Actually, this default is due to expansion of the Kermit Protocol over
the years. Originally, the protocal allowed for packets with a maximum
size of 94 --one byte of a packet was devoted to specifying the length
this byte could only take value corresponding to printable 7-bit ASCII
characters, there are 94 of these space through tilde-- therefore every  
Kermit program ever written should be assumed to accept size 94 packets.
If you specify this value, that is what you will get, if you specify some
higher value, you might get it, and you might not, it all depends on 
whether or not both receiver and sender support later additions to the
protocal (the first of which extended the max length to 95^2 and the 
second to 95^3).  If you try for a larger packet and it is not supported
you will default back to 94 (hopefully).

An excellant reference to this is "Kermit: A File Transfer Protocol" by
Frank da Cruz. Digital Press .

:wq


space to tilde, and since 
-- 
=======================================================
     -Official Spokesman:   //        Glenn Howes
All right thinking Americans ;-) //  howes@chem.wisc.edu
From: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Pointer-driven focus?
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:51:27 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

This is probably a long shot, but is there an INIT that would bring
 pointer-driven focus to the Mac? It's OK if it only works in the current
 appl., but it would be neat if it worked for all windows.

 What I'm thinking of is perhaps:

 if (! modal dialog up)
 	{
 	if ((pointer in window) && (window is not Front-Window))
 		{
 		if (window does not belong to the current appl)
 			switch-to-owner-appl;
 		bring-window-to-front;
 		}
 	}

Richard C. Long			long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com
			  -or-	...!decwrl!mcntsh.enet.dec.com!long   		
			  -or-	long%mcntsh.dec@decwrl.enet.dec.com
From: watson@clark.edu (Dennis Watson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: comm-opt-esc
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:44:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: clark.1992Jul30.164406.16006
Organization: Clark College, Vancouver, Wa.  USA

In article <1992Jul30.145049.7095@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> chopper@dcs.qmw.ac.uk (OOI) writes:
>
>
>as the title says,
>
>command option escape does something unexpected.
>A dialog box pops up on mine, and says
>
>" Force Finder to Quit
>  Force       Cancel
>"
>Probably goes through list alphabetically, in MF. Is this a standard 
>command avail?
>
>
This is standard System 7 command to "abort the foreground task".
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: honson@nexus.yorku.ca (Hon Shing Kan)
Subject: Can MacX be run on SE/30?
Originator: honson@nexus.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 03:20:56 GMT

Here is another question:

Can MacX be run on a SE/30?  If yes, how much memory we need?

Thanks again,  

Honson Kan
From: ifstadelmann@cnedcu51.bitnet (Patrick Stadelmann)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: new Inside Mac : Pascal or C ?
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:20:00 GMT
Organization: University of Neuchatel, Switzerland


 Hi

 Does anyone know if the new Inside Mac will be written in C or in Pascal ?

					Thank you 


-- 

                 Patrick Stadelmann, Neuchatel, Switzerland                   
  e-mail : Patrick.Stadelmann@info.unine.ch                                   
   X-400 : C=CH;ADMD=ARCOM;PRMD=SWITCH;O=unine;OU=info;S=Stadelmann;G=Patrick
Organization: Ryerson Polytechnical Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Tuesday, 28 Jul 1992 17:40:09 EST
From: <EETD4870@RyeVm.Ryerson.Ca>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Sys 7 Drag&Drop doesnt work (Why??)

I have had AutoDoubler 1.0.5i on my system for some time now, without
problems.  Today, I started getting some Address errors etc., so I ran
Norton 1.1 and SpeedDisk 1.1.  My system later rebuilt my desktop upon
restart.

I am now no longer able to Drag and Drop (eg. open a MacWrite file with
MS-Word by dragging it onto the Word icon).

Any body have any clues?



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bondir@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu
Subject: ftp'd files won't binhex or anything!
Keywords: ftp 
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:55:43 GMT

What am I doing wrong?  The only files I download via ftp from sites that I 
can "revive" are ones that end in .hqx.  These I download on an IBM to a
DOS floppy, read it on a Mac with a SuperDrive and AccessPC, deBinHex with
CompactPro, and then either unstuffit or uncompact, no problem.  Files ending
in anything else, even in familiar old .SIT, I can neither unstuff nor
deBinHex.  I always get in ftp after typing "binary" first.  What am I doing 
wrong?

Thanks!
RB
rsb5c@virginia.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent)
Subject: Re: new Inside Mac : Pascal or C ?
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Texas A&M Univ., Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:35:50 GMT

(Patrick Stadelmann) most innocently writes...
> 
> Does anyone know if the new Inside Mac will be written in C or in Pascal ?
> 


And then myself and others reply thusly:

---------------
From: sanguish@digifix.com (Scott Anguish)

	I think the new Inside Mac will be written in English.  :-)

From: bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu (Brent)

Hopefully it'll be written in English.  With C interfaces, but I bet they
will continue with the Pascal interface.

From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)

It will be written in English.
Seriously, I believe that sample code will be in both Pascal and C.

From: davis@gauss.enet.dec.com (Peter Davis)

I suspect it will be written in English.  Just a hunch, though.  I'm sure it

--------------

Were we merely reading *too closely* or is this evidence of similar
planes of existence?????

We're probably just starving for a quick grin..   ;-)

-- 
+-------------------------+  Pale Terror trembling guards the fountain's head,
|Brent P. Burton, N5VMG   |  And rouses Fancy on her wakeful bed;
|bpb9204@tamsun.tamu.edu  |  From realms of viewless spirits tears the veil,
+-------------------------+  And there reveals the unutterable tale. - M. Lewis
From: joshua@lclark.edu (Josh Rochester)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Sticky Mouse Problem
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:26:13 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Jul27.172613.19707
Organization: Lewis and Clark College

Hi there,

I have been having increasing occurences of the 'sticky mouse' problem myself.
When I plugged my mouse into the system unit, I think that the problem
INCREASED--does anyone know what is really causing this? Are there any apple
technical studs who know what is happening?

To me it is starting to look like there is some sort of bug with the ADB 
hardware, and I'm kinda mad that my expensive mac doesn't even work right at
the simplest of hardware levels . . .

Josh Rochester
joshua@lclark.edu
In article <1364900036@igc.org>, honoluluweek@igc.org (Laurie Carlson) writes:
> 
> 
> >... As an experiment, try plugging it into the system unit...
> 
> It is. It still happens. I notice the problem (no MouseUp) happens mostly
> in Quark 3.1 for me.. but then again i spend 90% of my mac time in Quark..
> 
> alohas
> matt
> 
> 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bel@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (brad.e.lance)
Subject: OzTeX
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:32:59 GMT

I read that there is a freeware version of TeX available called OzTeX.  Does
anyone know where this is available at for downloading (ftp)?  If someone
could give me the location of this I'd appreciate it.  Thanks!

Brad Lance
bel@cbcde.att.com
From: jwang@phy.duke.edu (James Wang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: How to uninstall System 7?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:41:24 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Jul24.090158.2866@memstvx1.memst.edu> harrisjw@memstvx1.memst.edu writes:
>How can I deinstall System 7?
>
>     Just trying to install 6.07 doesn't work.
>
>
>What machines have to run System 7?
> 
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>James W. Harris, Memphis State University, Education - 200, Memphis, TN  38152
>901-678-4632                                       harrisjw@memstvx1.memst.edu

Follow these steps to de-install System 7:

1 >>>	startup the computer in question with a floppy disk (use the 6.0.x
	installer disk for this would make things easier, except you may need
	to quit from the Installer application that is ran on bootup.)
2 >>>	after the hard drive mounts, do a quick backup of the extensions you
	will be saving by moving them out of the system folder.
3 >>>	drag the system folder (all of it) into the trash and empty it.
4 >>>	now ran the installer for 6.0.x

As for machines that has been hardwired to ran system 7 and only 7

>>>	The entire quadra line
>>>	The entire powerbook line
From: dgemoets@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov (Darren Gemoets-- CSC)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: System 7: Flat icons?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:16:26 GMT
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center

jwang@phy.duke.edu (James Wang) writes:

>In article <1992Jul24.005736.23256@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf) writes:
>>I just installed System 7 on a Mac II. On my IIci at home, the desktop folder 
>>icons are nice, 3-dimensional colored icons. On the II at work, the icons are 
>>flat, 2-dimensional and colorless.  The II has an Apple 8-bit video card 
>>installed; the IIci is using on-board video. How can I get those nice icons on
>>the Mac II?
>>
>>Bob
>
>Rebuild the desktop!

You've probably checked this, but make sure the monitor at work is set to
256-color mode, and not 16-color mode.

Darren
dgemoets@kong.gsfc.nasa.gov
From: mike_steiner@qm.claris.com (Mike Steiner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Sharing under system 7
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:29:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.134106.8104@jax.org>, srb@aretha.jax.org (Susan Dewey) writes:
> 
> I am looking for some 'how to' literature on file/folder sharing under 
> system 7.  I have read something somewhere about using aliases to be able
> to share the same files with different people. Each person could then be 
> granted a different set of privileges for viewing or editing the same file.
> 
> I also need to be able to access my entire hard disk from a remote site without
> giving people sharing folders on my disk the same privilege.
> 
> So how do I do these things?

You turn on sharing on your computer.  You set the priveleges for the
people whom you want to have access to whatever folders you want them
to access.  You set the priveleges for guest access (these priveleges
could be "no access at all," if you want).

You give yourself full access (as owner, you get full access anyway,
I believe).  Then when you log on to your own disk from a remote site,
you log on with your name and password.  An extra added way to do it
is make an alias of your hard disk and put it on a floppy.  Then
double-click on the alias from the remote site (while it is still on
your floppy), and you will mount your hard disk without having to
use the chooser to find it.
From: joe@lamar.colostate.edu (joe carlson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Why Q700 Rebuilds Dtop?
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:01:52 GMT
Organization: Alphanumeric

In article <6psxp-j@rpi.edu>, nasadk@vccsouth23.its.rpi.edu (Kristopher Martin Nasadowski) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Jul22.025115.2886@cujo.curtin.edu.au>, ken@cujo.curtin.edu.au (Ken Taylor) writes:
> |> We have a Quadra 700 here which has a Seagate 250Mb drive...
> |> 
> |> It has been formatted with a number of different disk formatters:
> |> 1) Jasmine DriveWare
> |> 2) SCSI Director Pro 1.8
> |> 3) SilverLining 5.31/12  (I know this isn't the latest version)
> |> 
> |> Every time the machine starts up, it rebuilds the desktop in the 
> |> boot partition....
> |> 
> |> The System has been reinstaled from scratch (7.0.1 with TuneUp 1.1.1)
> |> 
> |> Any ideas, comments, suggestions...
> 
> I have found that if you have a Mac which normally uses System 7, but
> boot with System 6.x.x, the desktop gets rebuilt when you switch to
> System 7 again.
> 
> My guess is that there are differences between the desktop for system 6
> and system 7, so that system 7 does not recognize the desktop if it
> was used under system 6, and thusly rebuilds it.
> 
> Two things worry me about this :
> 
> 1.) It doesn't do that with floppies
> 2.) It also says something to the effect of "Updating HD for new system software"
> 
> My only other guess is that this only happens to boot HD's and bootable floppies,
> since I have not noticed it on my external HD.
> 
> Anybody else have any ideas?
> 
> Nazman
> <nasadk@rpi.edu>
> 
> 

    I find that strange, I've had one of my external drives rebuild the desktop
automatically after using it on a system 6 machine.  The way that system 7 
works, is that it actually uses 2 different invisible folders for the desktop.
That's why the folders 'Desktop DF' and 'Desktop DB' appear when working 
under 6.0.X. (I'm not sure if those are the right names for the folders, but
it's something like that.)  It also does the same thing with the trash.
Apple took an entirely (sp) new approach to these items with system 7.0.  
Things like that are the reason why it rebuilds.  The archaic system 6.0.X
desktop just doesn't function the same, so system 7.0 fixes it.


														just another worthless piece of knowledge,

																													jOe
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jdb1@kepler.unh.edu (Jonathan D Baumgartner)
Subject: Re: BIG fonts
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 13:47:02 GMT

In <154d76INNc1d@darkstar.UCSC.EDU> johnroc@cats.ucsc.edu (John Rocchio, (x3511)) writes:

>I'm searching for Bitmap versions of the various LaserWriter fonts in
>large sizes (24-100 point).  I've found 1-2, but I remember that there
>used to be a lot of these around and I can't find them now.  Any ideas?

You could make your own using BitFont.  It does a pretty decent job.

fish on ..


-- 
Jonathan D. Baumgartner         		         "D O T H  G R O O V E"
jdbaum@unh.edu
		 	 	      "It's just a matter of opinion" -- Primus
			  "I laughed 'til I stopped."  -- Tiny Toons Adventures

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: bondir@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu
Subject: Re: ftp'd files won't binhex or anything!
Organization: Darden Center, University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 18:39:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.075058.18323@uwasa.fi> hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama) writes:
>From: hv@uwasa.fi (Harri Valkama)
>Subject: Re: ftp'd files won't binhex or anything!
>Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:50:58 GMT

>In article <1992Jul29.113305.6945@cerritos.edu> jacobs@cerritos.edu writes:
>>In article <bondir.40.0@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu>, bondir@vaxb.gbus.virginia.edu writes:
>>> What am I doing wrong?  The only files I download via ftp from sites that I 
>>> can "revive" are ones that end in .hqx.  These I download on an IBM to a
>>> DOS floppy, read it on a Mac with a SuperDrive and AccessPC, deBinHex with
>>> CompactPro, and then either unstuffit or uncompact, no problem.  Files endin
>>> in anything else, even in familiar old .SIT, I can neither unstuff nor
>>> deBinHex.  I always get in ftp after typing "binary" first.  What am I doing>> wrong?
>>> 
>>       I have the same problem with my system. Apparently any file other than
>>those in .hqx format are actually a Mac file, even while being downloaded. Thi
>>even applies to files in MacBinary that all the people with ethernet cards in
>>their Macs love. As far as I know, those of us who have to download through a
>>pc have know other option but to look for files in .hqx, anything else doesn't
>>survive the transfer through an ibm.
>>
>>If any of you wizards out ther have a solution, please let us know,
>>
>>Karl

>Well, the files  you  can find from  garbo.uwasa.fi  (or nic.funet.fi)
>ending  like .sea, .sit, .cpt etc  are really MacBinary files.  If you
>can't download  them using MacBinary protocol  then  you must download
>them  using normal  'binary'.   If  using  MacBinary  they  come right
>through. If not then you must use a program called  MacBinary than you
>can find as BinHexed from our mac/comm dir. That program puts the data
>and resource forks where Mac wants them to be.

What about files that end in _bin?  I can't do ANYTHING with them, whether I 
download/ftp them as binary or not!!

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: smithc@lars.acc.stolaf.edu (Christopher A. Smith)
Subject: Re: Bad F-line instruction?
Organization: St. Olaf College, Northfield (aka Cow Country), MN   USA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 03:21:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul21.130232.1938@centerline.com> dewey@centerline.com (Devan F. Dewey) writes:
>
>
>>and then I got this "Bad F-line instruction" error from the Finder.  I
>
>Is anyone from Apple listening?? I get this message a lot, too. It would
>be nice to know what it really means.


Apple hasn't been real cooperative with me nor the dealers I've spoken
with.  The answers could be characterized as "ambigiuous."  Nothing
real conclusive...

Hopefully the folks we spoke with at Apple were just in a bad mood and
that this ambiguity isn't a company-wide trend...

  ==================================================================
			 Christopher A. Smith
       German & Mathematics -- St. Olaf College, Northfield, MN
		     Internet:  smithc@stolaf.edu
From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: BIG fonts
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:28:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>I'm searching for Bitmap versions of the various LaserWriter fonts in
>large sizes (24-100 point).  I've found 1-2, but I remember that there
>used to be a lot of these around and I can't find them now.  Any ideas?

John-
is there any reason you are not just using truetype to create very large
size type?  There are quite a few fonts which look VERY NICE blown up 
to gargantuan proportions.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: robert@metropolis.com (Robert Munyer)
Subject: Re: How to increase the download speed in Kermit by high speed modem
Organization: Metropolis Software, Inc.
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:52:27 GMT


A major speed problem with the default Kermit protocol is the amount of time
that the sender has to wait between when it finishes an outgoing packet and
when it receives an acknowledgement for that packet.  If you watch your modem
lights, you will often see that they are OFF (waiting) about half the time.

The fix for this is to get a newer version of Kermit that supports what they
call "windows" (which has nothing to do with what Mac people call "windows").
If you set your windows to five or six, you can often increase your throughput
by 100% or more.

Unfortunately, I don't know of a Mac program that supports Kermit "windows".

Does anybody out there know of one?

______________________________________________________________________
Robert Munyer            |   "I may be synthetic, but I'm not stupid."
robert@metropolis.com    |      -- Bishop, _Aliens_
Date: 30 Jul 92 07:05:45 GMT
From: nigel@socs.uts.edu.au (Nigel Pearson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: ResEdit ics# editor bug

	I complained about the following bug^H^H^H"feature" of ResEdit :-

>	Has anyone else been unable to use the graphical editor for a small
>icon (ics#) resource on a monochrome Mac? My copy of ResEdit complains about
>needing Color QuickDraw to edit it. Aren't ICN# and ics# meant to BE b&w?


	A kind fellow-countryman offered the following solution :-

>o Create a small icon SICN (which is actually a list of them).
>o Put two small icons in the list.
>o Make the first one the icon and the second one the mask.
>o Make sure you get it right 'cause it's a pain to change.
>o Open the SICN using the hex editor, copy all the data.
>o Create an ics# and open it using the hex editor.
>o Paste the hex data in.


	I now offer a more optimal one :-

Open "ResEdit" in ResEdit. Ignore the warnings about what you are doing.
Open the "RMAP" resource picker.
Select the one numbered 207, which should be called "ics#".

	From here, I suggest that you copy this resource, paste it into
ResEdit Preferences, (in the System Folder {under Preferences in System 7})
and then edit that, rather than editing the ResEdit application itself.

Open RMAP 207's resource editor.
Change the field which is labeled "MapTo" from "icl8" to "SICN".
Save the file (either ResEdit or ResEdit Preferences) by closing it.


	You may now edit your small icons on a monochrome machine.
--
    Nigel Pearson, research dog's-body @ University of Technology, Sydney.

   AARNet: nigel@socs.uts.edu.au       Talk: (Sydney) 330 1799, fax 330 1807
   Hardcopy: Nigel Pearson, SOCS, UTS, PO Box 123, BROADWAY, Australia, 2007
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: prainbol@indyvax.iupui.edu
Subject: Font Editor for system 7
Organization: Indiana University
Date: 24 Jul 92 17:12:50 -0500

	Dose anyone know of a bitmap font editor..?  It has to be able
to run on system 7....

----------
Patrick R.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: nigel@socs.uts.edu.au (Nigel Pearson)
Subject: Rebuilding System 7 Desktop without losing Info comments
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 02:34:12 GMT

	I read a ResEdit tip which described a way of preserving Info comments
thru Desktop Rebuilds by opening the Desktop file and copying the Finder
Comment resource.

	Is there an equivalent way to do it under System 7?

	Are there any other ways which would work under System 7?

-- 
    Nigel Pearson, research dog's-body @ University of Technology, Sydney.

   AARNet: nigel@socs.uts.edu.au       Talk: (Sydney) 330 1799, fax 330 1807
   Hardcopy: Nigel Pearson, SOCS, UTS, PO Box 123, BROADWAY, Australia, 2007
From: gustilo@pop-server.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Invisible Folder "Move&Rename", what is it?
Date: 22 Jul 92 02:36:42 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <derosa.711756542@marble>, derosa@rtsg.mot.com (John DeRosa)
wrote:
> 
> Several of my tools are seeing a folder called
> "Move&Rename" that is invisible on the desktop of
> one of my two hard drives..

It's a sys7 feature although I have no idea what it does.

> Does anyone know why it is there and/or what it 
> does?  Thanks, John

Standrd Disclaimer:
  I am not responsible for comments that I make after 3:00 AM or after five
cups of coffee, whichever comes first.