HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Duke Blue-White Boxscore
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:06:58 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC


-White 48:

Parks: 6-7, 4-4 = 16; Moore: 4-5, 0-0 = 8; T.Hill: 3-6, 0-1 = 6;
Blakeney: 3-6, 5-6 = 11; Hurley: 3-9, 1-2 = 7; Brown 0-0, 0-0 = 0
(this was the walk-on, who played for about 2 minutes)
TOTALS: 19-33, 10-13 = 48

-Blue 37:

Meek: 3-6, 0-0 = 6; Lang: 1-7, 0-2 = 2; G.Hill: 7-13, 2-2 = 16;
Clark: 4-7, 0-0 = 8; Collins: 2-8, 0-0 = 5
TOTALS: 17-41, 2-4 = 37

3PG: Blue 1-6 (Collins 1-5; Clark 0-1); White 0-6 (Hurley 0-4, T.Hill 0-2)
Rebounds: Blue 19 (G.Hill 7, Meek 7); White 18 (Parks 11, Moore 3)
Assists: Blue 6 (GHill 2, Clark 2, Collins 1); White 8 (Hurley 7)
Fouls: Blue 11, White 7
A- 9314
  (Hurley had 3 turnovers, and Collins 5.  Collins also had three steals)
	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Next to Keith Richards, Sacramento looks great."--Pete Vecsey, on the Kings'
  chances this year.
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From: rjs@citi.umich.edu (Robert J. Skrobola)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Who is the worst ref?
Date: 10 Nov 1992 20:28:54 GMT
Organization: Center for Information Technology Intergration, University of Michigan
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bodwin.citi.umich.edu

In article <1992Nov10.201628.19402@alw.nih.gov>, jwnagle@loglady.ninds.nih.gov (Jim Nagle) writes:
|> ooops the last ref in the worst refs team would be K Mauer.
|> So the team is D Garretson, S Javie and K Mauer IMHO
|> -jim

Ed T. Rush. Ugh.
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: matthew@base.cs.ucla.edu (Matthew Merzbacher)
Subject: Re: UCLA Scandal
Keywords: Robots on the Net?
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date:  5 Nov 92 17:31:37 GMT

rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith) writes:

>UCLA has an active Artificial Life community.
>					-- Scott T.

>The secret is now out on Matthew, Trent, Scott and the other UCLA posters.
>They're no more human than GaRy.  Maybe this is true of all the left
>Coast posters.  Gidi, Roy, say it ain't so?  

I don't know about the others, but I took the phrase "Get a Life" quite
seriously.  And since I didn't have a real one...
--

Matthew Merzbacher	ARPA:	matthew@CS.UCLA.EDU
Moo - Moo Moo  		UUCP:	...!{uunet|rutgers|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!matthew
               		This time, *with* the oys
From: arminius@soc6.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Duke's Blue-White Game
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:38:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.6829
Reply-To: arminius@soc6.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter)


In article <6800@news.duke.edu>, trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH) writes:

|> **Disappointments**:
|>  T.Hill: He lacked aggressiveness, missed some open shots, and was held in check
|> the entire game.  I expected him to be the White's offensive leader, but he
|> was inconsistent.  He did play good defense on G.Hill, though.
  chances this year.

  This slow start was rather expected, as Hill has had a nagging injury through
the fall, which prevented him from playing in many of the Card gym scrimmages.
He has not been practicing nearly as much as a lot of the others, like Moore,
who played at virtually all of them. So, T will probably not be in full form
for a while--> hopefully against Michigan.
	Additional note: Has the NCAA decided on the suspension of Webber, Rose,
and Riley yet? It would be unfortunate to ruin a 1-2 matchup, one of the
best games of the early season. 
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From: rjones@dip.eecs.umich.edu (Randolph M. Jones)
Subject: Re: UCLA Scandal
Keywords: Robots on the Net?
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:55:49 GMT

In article <720982014@stego.cs.duke.edu> rws@duke.cs.duke.edu (Ronnie W. Smith) writes:
>The following comment was made by Scott Turner on the AI newsgroup.
>
>***********************************************************************
>
>UCLA has an active Artificial Life community.
>
>					-- Scott T.
>
>***********************************************************************
>
>The secret is now out on Matthew, Trent, Scott and the other UCLA posters.
>They're no more human than GaRy.  Maybe this is true of all the left
>Coast posters.  Gidi, Roy, say it ain't so?  

Wait a minute...I actually SAW Trent (or someone claiming to be him) at
this year's Cognitive Science conference...he kept going on about hiding
pot in his dishwasher and smoking dirty magazines or some such thing.
From: WILLIAM.S.BILL.W.ZUK@OFFICE.WANG.COM ("William S. Zuk")
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: What Ever Happened to Dome Eddie?
Date: 7 Nov 92 06:23:07 GMT
Organization: W L I, Lowell, MA


Excerpted from the Boston Globe, 11/6/92:

"A man who wore an orange wig and an oversized blue bow tie and raced
around the Carrier Dome cheering at Syracuse football and basketball
games has settled a lawsuit with the school.

Edward Orlick - better known as "Dome Eddie" - sued the university in
New York Supreme Court last November, claiming the school allowed two
fans to assault him in the dome after a 1989 men's basketball game.
He was hospitalized for seven days with a broken leg and damaged
knee ligaments.

Orlick said he agreed recently to an out-of-court settlement for
$17,000.  He had sought $600,000.

Orlick says he was tackled by two unidentified fans Jan. 29, 1989,
after Syracuse beat Providence, 100-96.  The suit claimed the university
had an obligation to protect Orlick because of his status as a
mascot-entertainer.

'People say they miss me', he said.  'I added a lot to the games.'"


- Bill Zuk

---------------------------
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Jayhawk Post #9 (Spooks and Hoops)
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:38:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: mccall.1992Nov5.153852
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Nov5.183420.13680@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, kbowers@esrc1.uucp (Ken Bowers) writes:
>I've been wondering: does this sort of massive posting constitute
>woofing in and of itself?  Is it possible to woof simply by posting
>an incredible amount of stuff about a team even if the content
>does not contain what is generally regarded as woofing statements?
>
I wouldn't consider it a woof.  Just general info, that she is
trying to spread to the KU hopeful.  Let's wait to see what she
does during the season.
--
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(uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott)	615 McCall Road
(800)255-2762, in Kansas (913)776-4041  Manhattan, KS 66502, USA
From: krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Are the Dookies chicken?
Keywords: Dook,UA
Date: 9 Nov 92 16:46:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson AZ

In article <6767@news.duke.edu> arminius@soc9.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter) writes:
>
>In article <1992Nov3.182048.27176@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>, krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
>
>|> >	I believe that Duke dropped Arizona because Lute didn't
>|> >	want to play in Cameron.  After all, previous games had
>|> >	been at a neutral site and at Arizona.  At least UCLA
>|> >	is willing to play home and home.
>|> >
>|> >	Besides, if Arizona really wants to play Duke, all they
>|> >	have to do is find their way into the Final Four.
>|> >
>|> >	--rb
>|> 
>|> You had better check your information, because you are wrong!  
>|> The first game was played at Meadowlands, the second at Cameron 
>|> and the third here at McHale.
>|> 
>|> Next time, look before you leap!
>
> The series was, despite my outrage at the Arizona site game, some fantastic
>basketball. However, one major factor it may have been dropped was Arizona's
>insistence that the refs be Pac-10 in all three games.

This also is not true.  Arizona has had nothing to say about the refs at 
Duke (they were ACC refs) and little to say about the refs at the Meadowlands 
(since it was a pre-season tournament).  The problem with the PAC-10 is that 
it is written into the charter that all games (even non-conference) played at 
PAC-10 home arenas must be officiated by PAC-10 refs.  This is the reason why 
Georgetown has not honored the return game of it's home-home agreement with 
UA (we played at Georgetown several years ago, they have refused to come 
here until the PAC-10 will allow neutral refs).  I agree that it is a very 
bad regulation and athletic coordinators throught the PAC are working on 
getting this changed (last I heard). 

But please don't blame all of this on UA.

Ted

-- 
            

krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu
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From: suffridge@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Rick Suffridge)
Subject: Re: Who is the worst ref?
Organization: NCR MCPD Columbia SC.
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 17:12:39 GMT

arminius@soc9.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter) writes:
: 
:   In light of the interest in all-time great Duke and Kentucky teams, how
: about this thread: 
: 
: 	What is the worst officiating crew possible to assemble. I put Lenny
: Wurtz as the ref.

Jim Bain - every Big 10 fan's favorite
Burrel Crowell - an old bald-headed ref in the SEC in the 70's and early 80's
                 who was probably the worst college ref I have seen
-- 
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From: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Subject: Re: Popeye Jones
Reply-To: oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day)
Organization: Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 19:35:42 GMT

In article <BxM7yz.MA6@acsu.buffalo.edu> v075p7mg@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu  
(Jonathan G Keller) writes:

> Also is there anyone out there from Murray State that could get me a hat?
> Just e-mail prices etc.

Sure, would you prefer "John Deere" or "CAT"?

--
************* "How about a little fire, Scarecrow?" **************
Orin Day, Code 664.1                    oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov
Hughes STX/NASA       GSFC Laboratory for High Energy Astrophysics
*******"Think that this is NASA's opinion?   NO, NO, NO!!!" ******
From: sjc@cs.purdue.edu (Steve Chapin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Rashard Griffith/Purdue/Tem Dam/oops!
Date: 6 Nov 1992 16:07:45 -0500
Organization: Department of Computer Sciences, Purdue University
	<1992Nov6.125112.17015@doug.cae.wisc.edu> <BxB9Ko.n0t@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>
NNTP-Posting-Host: bredbeddle.cs.purdue.edu
In-reply-to: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu's message of Fri, 6 Nov 1992 20:14:34 GMT

}} In article <BxB9Ko.n0t@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
}} 
}} 	   But Brian, DALE BROWN wanted Ten Dam badly!!!  That legitimizes
}} 	   him!

Hmm.  I wonder if we can convince Vampire Lange to fly in from the
west coast and teach Ten Dam to shoot his free throws?

sjc@cs.purdue.edu               Steve Chapin           Today's Grammar Lesson:
       "If you loose your arrow, you're likely to lose it in the weeds,"
                       was often heard in days of yore.

             "Home is the place where, when you have to go there,
                          They have to take you in."
               			-- Robert Frost, "The Death of the Hired Man"
Xref: sparky rec.sport.basketball.college:16461 alt.licker.store:41
From: corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college,alt.licker.store
Subject: Re: Polls, polls, polls
Date: 10 Nov 92 06:48:08 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson, AZ

In article <1992Nov10.023936.25211@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov  (Orin Day) writes:
>
>And Rob and I know the only basketball "poll" you can trust is Coach K.
>
>OD

Coach K?????? He must mean Leader Kibo!

Leader Kibo (19??-14??), DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM!ist philosopher,
Nobel Prize Winner for USENET postings for 1991, 1994 and 1864,
weinerhead, Snuggles-the-fabric-softener-bear-fetishist, formerly
a woozle named Peanut, one-time sweetheart of Marilyn Monroe
(the 1712 Sardine Queen of Panama, third cousin of the Marquis de
Sade), discoverer of the only definitive proof of whether or not
Deckard was a replicant (unfortunately, the bandwidth was too short
to contain the proof, this has been termed Kibo's Last Theorem,
the first one of 12 that he wrote.), basketball pollster, and 
Spokesman Earth by a minority vote of alt.alien.visitors.

At least you got a DIALECTICAL MATERIALISM!ist into your post
this time.  You're learning how to post here!

	See you at the licker store!
	Jason
	Vice-President, There Is No Point To This Newsgroup Foundation
From: arminius@soc6.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: First Anti-CBS comment of the season (was: Re: Pac-10 Expansion)
Date: 9 Nov 92 17:50:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.6830
Reply-To: arminius@soc6.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter)
Distribution: usa


In article <OLIVER.92Nov8160403@m66-080-7.mit.edu>, oliver@athena.mit.edu (James D. Oliver III) writes:
|> 
|> In article <1992Nov6.202912.3767@ncar.ucar.edu> grubin@virga.ucar.edu (Rick Grubin) wrote:
|> > Hey, until you post something intelligent and related to either basketball
|> > or the humour many here find in posting about it, shut the fuck up.  Get it?
|> 
|> "Humour"?  What kind of BUTTHEAD spells humour with a "u"?  Can you prove
|> your American citizenship?  If not, then shut up and leave my friend Keith
|> alone.
____________________________
|> 	Jim Oliver  
   
	Well, I spell humour with a u (as well as colour, labour, etc.), and I
at least try not to be a butthead. I am not, in fact, American. But then, I
have no problem with your friend Keith, and think that as a first respnse
telling someone to shut the fuck up is inappropriate.

	I am, however, on the East coast, so I seem to qualify on two counts
for being a butthead.

ian
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From: damiller@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Dale J Miller)
Subject: Re: Who is the worst ref?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:44:03 GMT

In article <6769@news.duke.edu> arminius@soc9.acpub.duke.edu (Ian Carter) write
s:
>
>  In light of the interest in all-time great Duke and Kentucky teams, how
>about this thread: 
>
>    What is the worst officiating crew possible to assemble. I put Lenny
>Wurtz as the ref.


The worst?  Ed Hightower has to be at the top of the list.

I thought I was rid of him after leaving the Big 8, but he followed me to make 
bad calls in the Big 10.  Oh well, that just means better officiating in Allen 
Field House now.

Dale J. Miller                        | "Has anyone told Bob Dole about the
damiller@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu    |  woman in Russell who talks to St.
Die Macht den Menschen jetzt.         |  Peter in her basement?" - Robert Day
From: wlmg3055@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (William L. Myers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Illinois Recruiting
Date: 5 Nov 92 00:44:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bx7wq1.7MC
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Illinois now has verbal committments from 3 h.s. players.
5 scholarships available this year.

Jerry Hester.  6-6 Athletic swingman from Peoria Manual.  An all-stater
	last year who has been called the state's best forward.  He skipped
	last summers Nike camp, so it's hard to place him as '# xyz' in
	the ratings game.  But he is a blue chipper.  Averaged almost 19
	points per game.  Not real strong on the backboards last year.
	A good student, qualifier and heady player.  Scored 26 pts. and
	10 rebounds against monster lineup of ML King.  Can put the ball
	on the floor and drive for the Big dunk.  Also has range out to nearly 
	3 pt. land.  A key recruit to replace small forward  
	Andy Kaufman next year.

Kiwane Garris.  6-1 point guard from Chicago Westinghouse.  All-state last
	year and state's top Sr. guard.  Rated by B. Gibbons as #12 in 
	nation after Nike camp, where he played well.  Went over 30 pts.  
	5 times last year, led team to state tourney in Champaign.  Some-
	times error prone and streaky.  But a fine penetrator and ball-
	handler.  21 pts., 5 Rb, 6A per game.  Needs to raise his ACT
	score a point or so to qualify.  Very quick offensively and 
	on defense.  His skills will complement those of freshman guard
	Richard Keene nicely in a few years. A critical signee, since the
	previous 2 classes include only Keene at guard.  Plays point 
	guard in h.s., but would look good penetrating from the wing.

Brett Robisch.  6-9 1/2 but only 195-200 pounds.  From Springfield Calvary
	(R. Clemon's school) a class A (small) school.  Illinois always his
	#1 choice, but he had to wait for Beau Smith (6-9") to choose Louis-
	ville over Illinois.  IOWA was once the leader for Smith, but in
	typical fashion they tried to rush his decision.  He told them to take
	a hike and ultimately chose the Cardinals. Smith is supposedly a top 40 	player.  Brett averaged 11 pts./ game last year.  Robisch's father is
	6-11 and a former Jayhawk and NBA player.  Brett will probably
	be redshirted next year and told to eat and lift his way onto the
	team...  If Chris Gandy is a stick, this guy is a straw.  Maybe he'll
	grow a bit more.




JUCO's--------

Burie Shelly Clark.  A 6-8 1/2 Chicagoan .  #245 and a good jumper.  17
	points and 12 boards / game last year.  May yet sign with Illinois
	although his juco coach wants him to hold off 'til spring so he
	can  a) coach him better  or
	     b) dangle him as bait to get a Div 1 assistant's job.

Willy Cauley.  6-7 Juco now at Kansas.  Very good player.  IL's chances about
	1 in 4 or 5 with him.  


The 3 high schoolers are probably the last the coaching staff will pursue
this fall.  Efforts will concentrate on the Juco guys from now til spring, 
and scouting begins on next year's seniors. They still need to recruit 
some size at center in case Deon leaves after his junior (4th) year. He says
he won't, but they all say that...


posted for jwag9429
From: brett@oce.orst.edu (Brett Barksdale)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Pac-10 Tourney (Was: Re: First Anti-CBS comment of the season (was: Re: Pac-10 Expansion))
Date: 5 Nov 92 23:50:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bx9owp.72q
Distribution: usa
Organization: Oregon State University, College of Oceanography

In article <25933@optima.cs.arizona.edu> gln@cs.arizona.edu (Gary L. Newell) writes:
-In article <1992Nov5.210143.9280@cs.uoregon.edu>, elliott@majestix.cs.uoregon.edu (Elliott E. Lee) writes:
-> I thought it only happened twice, the first held at UCLA which they won
-> and the second held at Arizona which they won. 
-
- Could have been - I thought it was at least 3 times once at ASU as well but
-I could be wrong..... though it is of course unlikely...
-
-			gln

 They definitely had one at ASU. I remember the Beavers pulling off a massive
choke against the home-court Sun-devils. :-(

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: Referendum on Jayhawk Postings
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Mon,  9 Nov 1992 09:06:33 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1992Nov7.011445.44493@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu>, maryb@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>Are you sure this isn't motivated by the fact that Kansas, a little upstart
>college in the middle of a wheat field "where the buffalo roam" is one of the
>top-ranked teams in the preseason polls?
>
What!?!?!?!?!!  "where the buffalo roam"?  Sheesh Mary.   The last thing
we Kansasians want is for the CU Buffaloes(ask Quayle if it has an 'e'
or not...dredging up r.s.f.c.) to roam around here.  I'd just soon
kill 'em and send them back to Boulder.  Although they do play in
the Buff.  [do I really need a smiley?]
--
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(uucp: ...!widener!depot!mccall!scott)	615 McCall Road
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: mikail@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Mikail Shams)
Subject: Re: Midnight Madness at Maryland (5th best recruit)
Organization: Center of Excellence in Space Data and Information Sciences
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:56:11 GMT

In article <fexley.20.720902406@dining.umd.edu>, fexley@dining.umd.edu (FX) writes:
>Well, it seems like Dick Vitale is all over the place.  On
>10/31/92 he was at Maryland and he hosted Maryland's Midnight Madness.
>
>The cloud has been lifted here at Maryland and look for us in March.
>
>
>..FX
>
>-- Screwed by the NCAA and now were BACK!


	According to USA Today, Maryland has the 5th best recruiting
freshman class in the nation and #1 in ACC.  Four of the nations top 
twenty players are now at Maryland.  If not this year next year we 
will be kicking some BUTT!!  As Dicky V says "Maryland is BACK!!"

P E A C E

Mikail

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From: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu (R.CLOUGH)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
Subject: Re: UNC, Duke, and ACC Trivia
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:07:35 GMT
Reply-To: trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu
Organization: Duke U. Med. Ctr., Durham, NC

In article <1992Nov5.170642.19923@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov>, oday@lobster.gsfc.nasa.gov (Orin Day) writes:

>How many years did it take Duke to sink to last place in the ACC
>after its inception?  (How many times did Duke finish 8th, or tied
>for 7th?  Who was Duke's coach that year?)

It took 20 years, since it happened in 1974.  Then they finished last or
tied for last for four years in a row.  the coach in 1974 is one Nate McGeachy,
who is now a promoter in Fayetteville.  He was named coach right before the
season began, because Adolph Rupp backed out on Duke.  Yup, the Baron was
going to try to prove his doubters wrong by coming out of retirement, but he
begged off at the last second.

	Robert Clough, DUMC (though still not speaking for them)
"Marta likes to talk about sensuality; I say she wouldn't know sensuality if
it bit her on the ass."--Jack Handey
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.college
From: bsricker@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN SCOTT RICKER)
Subject: Re: Who is the worst ref?
Originator: bsricker@c00081-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: bsricker@eos.ncsu.edu (BRIAN SCOTT RICKER)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 22:39:09 GMT


There should be no doubt .... 



     Lenny Wurtz has to be THE worst ref in college basketball history


Cheers,
B