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From: mstephens.520@postman.gsfc.nasa.gov (mark stephens)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: AppleEvents and Excel & Word question
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:09:23 GMT
Organization: nasa/gsfc

I makes me wonder if Microsoft tests out the examples in the Excel documentation!

    mark


> Mark,
>  I have experienced this same problem. I thought it might be interesting to
> use Excel's macros to manipulate Word through APple Events. 
         [...]
> 
> Does anyone know what the real AE capabilities of Word and Excel are?
> I , like mark, am confused.
>  
> David Mirsky
> mirsky@gnu.ai.mit.edu
> 
>
From: barry@reed.edu (Barry Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: LaTeX for the Mac
Keywords: TeX Macintosh
Date: 5 Oct 92 03:59:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Oct5.035928.20640
Organization: Blue Sky Research, Portland, Oregon

In article <19853@ector.cs.purdue.edu> knapp@cs.purdue.EDU (Edgar Knapp) writes:
>It's great to see Barry on the net. 

Thanks! We're installing a Mac IIci to run A/UX and give us better
access; we'll publish an email tech support address as soon as it's
available.

>One question I have is: when will Textures support publish and
>subscribe? Even though cutting and pasting from and to other programs
>works well, revisions of included material are a pain, since one has
>to cut the old copy, paste it into the foreign program, edit it there,
>copy and paste the new copy back and then give it the same
>name as the old copy had. I'd rather double-click on the "picture" and
>have the program that created it opened automagically.

Publish/Subscribe IS in the works, but I can't say when it will make
it into the released product (NB: I can't say, meaning I don't know
myself!)  It's a complex issue, both technically and in user-interface
terms. I can think of some things I'd like to do with it, tho...

Barry Smith, Blue Sky Research
barry@reed.edu
From: alana@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu (The Al-ster, The Al-meister, The Al-o-rama)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: HELP: *** NEED RESEDIT ANOTHER WAY ***
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:35:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Oct5.193538.11422
Organization: The uncharted backwaters of the unfashionable end of the			      Western Spiral arm of the Galaxy.

In article <1992Oct5.114321.552@whscdp.whs.edu> stdnt152@whscdp.whs.edu (An elephant is only a mouse built to government specs.) writes:
>Hello all,
>
>	
>	We do not yet have any FTP access... And I am looking
>	for a copy of ResEdit for the Mac. We have tried to
>	have it mailed, but that didn't work. Could someone
>	either post it here, or somewhere and let me know where -
>	or send it to us on a real disk all ready to go. I will
>	MAKE SURE to send you another disk to replace the one you
>	send...

Since ResEdit, just like System software, is copyrighted and licensed by Apple,
one cannot simply mail a copy (legally).  It must either be obtained by the
person who is going to use it or it must be purchased.  A copy of the latest
(2.1.1) ResEdit is included in the ResEdit manual which can be found at your
local bookstore.

Happy Hunting...


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From: pfkelly@bnr.ca (Pete Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Auto Doubler 2.0 out yet ?
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:11:36 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research/Northern Telecom
X-Xxdate: Mon, 5 Oct 92 01:17:28 GMT
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d11

In article <yt3-Ts_@engin.umich.edu> Jeffrey L. Needleman,
JNeedleman@MCIMail.com writes:
>No, I disagree.  My guess is that you were calling with a technical
>problem (a bad upgrade disk) and were connected to technical support
>instead of sales, and the technical support guy was not quite up on Fifth
>Generation's policies regarding upgrades.

I actually talked to BOTH departments during normal working hours to a
total of FOUR people (made a second call to suggest they include the
upgrade at the same time) and got much the same answer from all parties. 
Perhaps my question paved the way for the efficient way you seem to have
been handled.

>
>I say that because I telephoned early today (Monday) to upgrade my copy
>of AD (to be delivered tomorrow via Airborne), and the salesperson
>VOLUNTEERED that a complete master install disk of DD3.7.7 would be sent
>to me in two weeks or so since I appeared in the database as a registered
>user of 3.7.x--without charge.  I had already downloaded the 3.7.7
>updater from AOL so didn't need it, but accepted the offer graciously. I
>have no complaints whatever about Fifth Generation's support. I had even
>called on Sunday to order and a Tech Support person suggested I call back
>Sales on Monday for an upgrade order. I think it's great that the company
>pays for toll-free Tech Support 24 hours a day 7 days a week and chooses
>to keep the Tech Support line open OVER the Sales line when the choice
>has to be made. Wish everyone did. 

Point taken.  I was only suggesting to them how they might make it even
better AND maximize their profits by shipping everything at the same time.

I guess the bottom line is that how you're handled depends to a great
extent upon who picks up the phone.  Unfortunately Fifth Generation isn't
unique in that respect but your right, they're trying harder than most.

>
>By the way, I uploaded CopyDoubler 1.0 demo and all the DD 3.7.7 updaters
>and auxiliary files to sumex-aim.stanford.edu, where anyone on the
>Internet can now grab them by anonymous ftp or by using one of the ftp
>mailers. Cheaper than AOL...and you're welcome!
>
>Jeff

Thanks for that.  I picked them up yesterday.
From: bruss@cs.ucsd.edu (Brian Russ)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Troff for the Mac
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:17:08 GMT
Organization: =CSE Dept., U.C. San Diego


	I'm pretty sure I've heard of people requesting this before ...
I would like to download troff files from my Unix machine to my
Mac at home and work on them there.  Is there any utility that I
can use to preview troff files on the Mac?  Thanks in advance ...

					Brian

-- 
Brian Russ
CSE Department, UC San Diego
bruss@beowulf.ucsd.edu
From: Dave_DeVisser@mindlink.bc.ca (Dave DeVisser)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: PowerPrint & PC printers for Mac
Date: 26 Sep 92 19:33:54 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Re. GDT Softworks PowerPrint...

I have used this and their previous program, JetLink Express with my Canon
LBP-4Plus and have had great success. No problems with truetype or even
postcript via PageMaker...

Also, PowerPrint allows a Parallel hookup...nice.

In summary, I would recommend the program to anyone with an ibm-style printer.

bye4now

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:15260 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:16344
From: george@mech.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: amiga graphics on a MAC? ( now disk formats )
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:50:09 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Mechanical Engineering

:
:The Mac is not capable of recognizing an Amiga formatted disk. 


is this a hardware limitation? or is this an extension waiting to happen?

:The only 
:non-Mac disk it does accept (and only if you have a superdrive) are IBM 

not quite true. you can also use unix 'tar' disks, and some sort
of AppleII format.
The tar format, btw holds more than 1.4 Mb on an HD disk ( ~2M i think )
( its not random access though )
i wonder if there is a 'suntar' program for the amiga...

[ crossposted to amiga.hardware, btw ]

--
-george            george@mech.seas.upenn.edu  
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Jane.Hogan@cc.utas.edu.au (Jane Hogan)
Subject: AutoMac - word5
Organization: Computing Centre
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 00:32:06 GMT

Hello folks

Word4 had a neat Macro feature called AutoMac. Can this be used with Word 5 
and System 7? If not, does Word5 offer a similar feature?

If none of the above, is there an external application that will enable a 
user to record macros for Word%?

Thanks in advance

Jane
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: wmporter@jetson.uh.edu (William M. Porter)
Subject: Re: StyleWriter Paper?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 07:05:00 GMT

In article <BvI2Dx.16v@netnews.jhuapl.edu>, artis@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (David A.
Artis) writes...

>I'm looking for recommendations on what kind of paper works best on the 
>StyleWriter.  The manual recommends 20 lb. cotton bond, but when I tried it I 
>thought the paper was so absorbent that the characters looked a little fuzzy.  
>Plain Xerox bond isn't bad, but it's probably more prone to smearing.  I've 
>looked in stores for paper designed for inkjet printers, but haven't found 
>any.  Is such paper "slick", or fuzzy like cotton bond? Suggestions would be 
>appreciated.  

This is >the< big problem with the StyleWriter--finding the right paper. After
extensive "research" at a variety of office-supply stores (and lots of $$ down
the drain) I have found Strathmore Legacy Ink Jet Paper does the job for me
pretty well: I use Ultrawhite, Smooth Surface, 24 lb. 

There is a company that specializes in selling paper via mail: Paper Direct.
Their number is 1-800-A-PAPERS. I have a catalogue in front of me & they claim
to have the best ink jet papers. But I have not ordered anything from them. If
you do & you like what you find, would you let me know? (I'm obviously not
connected with the company....) 

William Porter 
Internet: wmporter@jetson.uh.edu
Classical Languages: University of Houston
From: jfw@jfwhome.FUNHOUSE.COM (John F. Woods)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: StyleWriter Paper?
Date: 5 Oct 92 12:46:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: jfwhome.BvnFH9.2Ho
Distribution: usa
Organization: Misanthropes-R-Us

In <5OCT199202055429@jetson.uh.edu> wmporter@jetson.uh.edu (William M. Porter) writes:
>In article <BvI2Dx.16v@netnews.jhuapl.edu>, artis@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu (David A.
>Artis) writes...
>>I'm looking for recommendations on what kind of paper works best on the 
>>StyleWriter.  The manual recommends 20 lb. cotton bond, but when I tried it I 
>>thought the paper was so absorbent that the characters looked a little fuzzy.  
>>Plain Xerox bond isn't bad, but it's probably more prone to smearing.
>This is >the< big problem with the StyleWriter--finding the right paper. After
>extensive "research" at a variety of office-supply stores (and lots of $$ down
>the drain) I have found Strathmore Legacy Ink Jet Paper does the job for me
>pretty well: I use Ultrawhite, Smooth Surface, 24 lb. 

I find that Hammermill Bond works well, though the ink will smear if you don't
let it dry a bit before handling it (generally the time it takes for the next
page to come out is more than adequate).

>There is a company that specializes in selling paper via mail: Paper Direct.
>Their number is 1-800-A-PAPERS. I have a catalogue in front of me & they claim
>to have the best ink jet papers. But I have not ordered anything from them.

I have ordered from them.  They had only one ink jet paper the last time I
looked through their catalog; they tend more to stress unusual kinds of paper
for laser printers (decorative paper, card stock, etc.).  I didn't get their
ink jet paper, so I don't know how well it works (it was pretty expensive),
but they filled my order for preperforated index card stock (four per 8.5x11
sheet) quickly and it was everything they promised.
From: wilhelm@mcst.ae.ge.com (Roland Wilhelm)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Session logging w/ NCSA Telnet?
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:42:47 GMT
Organization: GE Aircraft Engines

Is there any way to log a telnet session to a file?  I'm interested in a
simple ASCII capture of what scrolls across the screen.

One other feature that would be very nice for a particular application is
to get telnet to handle VT100 print commands.  For example, if the escape
sequence "<esc>[5i" (send all incoming characters to the printer) is rec'd,
pop up the LaserWriter print dialog and then proceed to print.
From: knapp@cs.purdue.EDU (Edgar Knapp)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: AutoDoubler 2.0 vs. MacOberon 2.4
Summary: crash
Keywords: Incompatibility
Date: 2 Oct 92 18:26:59 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Purdue University


To my disappointment I had to discover that the incompatibility
between AutoDoubler and MacOberon is still present in the latest
release of AutoDoubler, even though Fifth Generation has known of the
problem for a while and MacOberon is freely available from
neptune.ethz.ch. The author of MacOberon, Michael Franz, even
contacted the makers of AD to try and get this problem resolved.

The error manifests itself as a system freeze caused by a triggering a
TRAP 20 exception (Macintosh.GetEndOfFile) in the Oberon System pane.
It does not depend on whether MacOberon and related files are
compressed or not The problem does disappear when AD is not loaded on
startup.

That's the second major problem with AD that surfaced in as many days
(the first one was an incompatibility with SpeedyFinder7).  Talk about
sloppy beta-testing...

Well, at least there is a toll-free support number now that Fifth
Generation owns Salient.

Edgar

(Knapp@cs.purdue.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: mcolthea@laurel.ocs.mq.edu.au (Max Coltheart)
Subject: System 7, DeskWriter, and print spooling.
Organization: Macquarie University, Australia.
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:59:19 GMT

How?


MaxC
From: skrul@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Stephen Krulewitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: PD Postscript Interpreter
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:00:40 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

Is there is a public domain postscript interpreter that will take in a
postscript text file and print it out on a StyleWriter?  Any help would
be appreciated - e-mail is preferred.
From: Apgar@Apple.com (Gar)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Disk Doubler 3.7.7 problem?
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:01:10 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Distribution: usa
Organization: Apple

In article <1992Oct6.194910.19465@nntp.uoregon.edu>, mike lee
<mikelee@oregon.uoregon.edu> wrote:
> 
> After using the Disk Doubler 3.7.7 updater yesterday -- the one put out by
> Fifth Generation, not Salient -- I have had nothing but problems. My screen
> freezes often, programs crash with error types 1,2 or 3, and my Finder
> sometimes crashes with a bad f-line instruction.
> 
> I've reinstalled my system twice (7.0, tune-up 1.1.1, on a IIfx), I've pared
> down my extensions, I've rebuilt my desktop, I've removed DD from my disk.
> Still I have problems.
> 
> Or is it the new Extensions Manager 1.8?
> 


I'm using both DD 3.7.7 and EM 1.8 and having no major problems...

Apgar@Apple.com                   I said it, NOT Apple.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: eakaftan@isluga.puc.cl (Eduardo Andres Kaftanski)
Subject: Re: ? Screensaver for PowerBook ?
Organization: Pontificia Universidad Catolica de Chile
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:06:11 GMT

Edgar Knapp (knapp@cs.purdue.EDU) wrote:
: 
: I am aware of the conventional wisdom that a screensaver is
: unnecessary with PowerBooks, but I am no longer sure I believe this
: holds for the PowerBooks with active matrix screens (170 and higher).
: 
  I guess what you say is true, actually when you choose the
"Stay awake when plugged is" option on my Pwb 140 it tell's me
that if I let the computer or for to much time, an image could be
formed in the screen, needing hours of sleep to go away.
  I use AfterDark 2.0 (FISH!), it gives me no trouble and prevents the
screen from burning.

: Neither Pyro nor DarkSide seem to have faders that are based on a
: white background rather than a black one. Does AfterDark have such a
: module? Am I paranoid? What do other people use?
: 
: Thanks,
: 
: Edgar
: 
: (knapp@cs.purdue.edu)
: 

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eakaftan@isluga.puc.cl

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: rjs@gumby.dsd.trw.com (Bob Suyehara)
Subject: Kolor 2.0
Organization: TRW INC., Redondo Beach CA
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:13:36 GMT

Has anyone gotten Kolor 2.0 to work properly? We have a Mac LC with
Apple's 13" RGB running System 7.0 with Tuneup. Only a few of the
options work okay; The title bar lines, scroll bars, thumb won't
change colors. Also, "Revert" doesn't change the colors to original
Mac colors. I downloaded it from mac.archive.umich.edu. Any info
and help would be appreciated.

Bob S.
rjs@gumby.trw.com



Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: jhi@netcom.com (John Im)
Subject: Re: How is NISUS?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:41:15 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.133740.24838@ctp.com> ebail@ctp.com (Erik Bailey) writes:
>
>Well, I bought Nisus before MS Word 5 came out. I was sick of the inability
>of Word 4 to do search/replace on fonts/sizes/styles, and Nisus provided
>that capability (along with a host of others, most notably unlimited undo,
>a nicety for those of us used to that feature in, say, GNU Emacs).
>
>So I used it, and it was ok. Slow, but quite powerful. But I never came to
>like the user interface; found it clumsy in the extreme.

Nisus may seem slow compared Word 4 (I thought it was slightly faster), but
it is definitely much faster than Word 5.  I can't even use "Word 5" and
"speed" in the same sentance without laughing.

As for the interface, yes, it does take time to get used to, especially after
using Word.  However, I found it easy to use after a while.

>Then MS Word 5 came out, and I got it, and I haven't used Nisus since. I

I haven't used Word since I got Nisus.  Well, except at work, where I'm forced
to use Word.

>know there's a lot of MS Word bashing out there, and a lot of it is
>deserved, but it does everything I need well, (somewhat) intuitively, and
>(fairly) quickly. I consider the $250 I spent on Nisus wasted money...

I consider the $99 (got it while I was still a student) I spent on Nisus one
of the best investments I ever made.

>Just my opinion. It certainly is a good word processor; it's just not
>really up to par, IMHO.

There is one thing I actually do like about Word - integrated tables.

Other than that, I prefer Nisus for heavy-duty writing, and WriteNow for
simpler stuff.

I don't mean to imply that Nisus is perfect.  In fact, there are several thing
I'm hoping they'll add/change in future versions.  However, unless you need
the power of FrameMaker or the simplicity of WriteNow, I consider Nisus the
best choice.

- John
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: sleo@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Suwandi Leo)
Subject: Product Support of Educational Discount Softwares
Originator: sleo@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 21:07:03 EDT

I am very interested in getting a copy of Microsoft Excel 4.0.
I am able to buy it at the university bookstore at educational
discount.  My questions are :       

Do you get product support from Microsoft?        
Will I get product updates if year/s down the road, Microsoft
introduces Excel 5.0?

Thanks in advance.

Please email or post:
sleo@mailbox.syr.edu
Syracuse University
Syracuse, New York
From: stillmmd@cnsvax.uwec.edu (Mark Stillman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: dissection simulation software needed
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:51:08 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin -- Eau Claire

I am looking for Mac or MS-DOS software to replace dissection in college-level
biology courses.  I need the company names,phone numbers, cost, liscensing
info, and any other information you can give me.

E-mail me at Stillmmd@cnsvax.uwec.edu.

Thanks a million,
Mark

From: Ladd.Morse@p804.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Ladd Morse)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Auto-Save
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1992 09:53:17 -0500

> 
  jc> I am looking for an auto save control panel or extension for system
  jc> 7.x, I am currently using Save-o-Matic, but it has a bug where it does
  jc> not check to see what the front program is, so if I am running word,
  jc> but I switch back to the finder and stay in the finder, it will issue
  jc> the command-s to finder which on my finder is the shut down key.  So I
  jc> am looking for something that is a little more stable.  

NOW Utilities has a module called "now save" that will automatically save at a
user specified interval.  I don't use it myself, but if it's half as good as the
other modules in the package that I do use, you might consider buying the entire
package.

Ladd
 
 

Xref: sparky comp.sys.mac.apps:15265 comp.sys.mac.hardware:18248
From: isler@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Sylvia Isler)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.hardware
Subject: Mac Classic rebooted suddenly and without warning
Date: 2 Oct 92 23:31:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

A friend of mine's Mac Classic 4/40 suddenly rebooted while he was
typing a letter using Microsoft Word v.5.0. There is no apparent
hardware damage. Has anyone out there experienced this and/or know
what causes it?

Thank you,


Sylvia Isler
isler@gradient.cis
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Gareth Swarbrick <gareth@civeng.unsw.oz.au>
Subject: Re: Word 5.0 - Memory shortage
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6F7890B52018340@rageth.civeng.unsw.oz.au>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 6 Oct 92 18:18:51 GMT
Organization: University of New South Wales
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d9
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 08:19:20 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.020001.7471@newsroom.utas.edu.au> Anthony Chan,
u921470@postoffice.utas.edu.au writes:
>I have a Mac LC with 10 meg of RAM (that's not the problem)
>and I am running Word 5.0.  Some times (approx 25% of the time)
>when I start up the application it tells me that I am low or out of
system
>memory (and a "button" to quit). After quiting I try to run the
>application again and no probs it runs.

I aggree with the last person's advice. I think you'll find that the
System-TuneUp (now vers III) will solve your problems.
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