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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:36:52 -0400 
From: Steven Ritter <sr0o+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Word Diff program

Is there a program that will produce a "diff" file for MS Word (5.0)
documents? 

Ideally, I'd like to feed it two files -- the original and a revision --
and have it output a third file which is like the revised file but with
some indication (sidebars or something) of what changed.

Steve


From: Philip.Schuler@f421.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Philip Schuler)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: SF-171 FORM SOFTWARE FOR 
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 17:06:44 -0500

Gerald George Marfo writes:
> Is there any software with the latest copy of the SF-171 (US Government
> employment application form)? I tried a place that last advertised in MacUser
> in January, but got no response.
 
  My wife recently re-did her SF-171 with a program called "SF-171 Works"
published by Keator Software [PO Box 608, Bozeman, MT  59771]. It requires
Microsoft Works (she used Works 2.0, not the recently released 3.0) and comes in
either a LaserWriter or ImageWriter version (you have to specify which one you
want when you order it). It cost around $60, I think, which is cheap IMHO,
considering what a hellish form the 171 is to deal with. I can offer no comments
on how well it works other than it seemed pretty slow to me (we have a SE, so
that may be the culprit rather than the software).

  As I recall, there were a couple other SF-171 packages listed in the Mac
Product Registry. One used MacDraw and another used some forms software package.
From time to time I've seen templates for things like Filemaker or drawing
packages posted on America OnLine, but I've never tried them.

Good luck,
Phil Schuler


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From: harry@DIALix.oz.au (Harry Werkman)
Subject: rnMac
Organization: DIALix Services, Perth, Western Australia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 11:40:01 GMT
Summary: rnMac
Keywords: rnMac

I've downloaded rnMac and I'm having difficulty in getting it setup for news
reading. Could anyone that is using rnMac help me in the setup. I'm using 
UUPC 3.0 for the news feed but when I use LIST ACTIVE GROUPS or GENERATE
NEWS DATABASE nothing get put in the active windows for me to select. I've
already gen'd the rnMac settings to point to all the relevant folders etc.

Regards,
Harry WERKMAN
From: Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: RE: Stuffit:  an error-free process?
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:23:53 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:2240/175 - The Associati, Grand Blanc MI

Yes, after years of working with it, I'd say it is.

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From: ks1l+@andrew.cmu.edu (Keith D. Saft)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: COPYright 1.0!
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:46:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.0erTGgm00iUx46a2xu
Organization: Graduate School of Industrial Administr., Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Has anyone checked out COPYright from CSG Technologies?  It copies files
faster than the Finder AND in the background (an CDEV/INIT passes the
Finder copies off to an application).  You can even copy several
different items to multiple destinations simultaneously (the progress
dialog box grows and adds a thermometer bar).  CSG's number is
800-FON-4-MAC.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: John T. Chapman <jtc1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Disk Doubler 3.77 (encryption)
X-Xxdate: Tue, 13 Oct 92 15: 02:53 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: jtc1@cornell.edu
Organization: Office of Computing and Statistical Consulting
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 13:53:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.233445.8265@brtph560.bnr.ca> Pete Kelly,
pfkelly@bnr.ca writes:
>>Can someone tell me how to password protect .sea files compacted by DD
>>
>>Thanks
>>
>>HM
>>
>
>I've been baffled by that reported capability too.  I saw it mentioned in
>an advertisement from MacWarehouse that password protection was a DD
>feature but I've never read anything about in the DD manual.  

In theory, DiskDoubler is supposed to give you the option of creating 
encrypted SEAs. HOWEVER... This is only available in the US versions of 
DiskDoubler because of International trade laws. Furthermore, the 
updaters shipped to the various on-line sites will strip this 
feature out, updating copies of DD to the international version.

What I'd like to see is a way for the updaters to figure out if you have 
a US or International version and update properly.

The Good News:
If you need the encryption feature, have a US version and don't want 
to play around with an older (perhaps buggier) version, simply call Fifth 
Generation's toll-free support number and ask them to send you the new 
version. They seemed perfectly happy to ship it for free (as it was a bug 
fix).

Hope this helps.

(By the way, info about encryption and trade laws is all third hand; if I 
am incorrect on any of this, please post a correction. I did ask 5th G. 
about the bug fix (3.7.7) and should be getting mine in the mail in a
week 
or so when they get the disks finished.) 

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From: walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Todd Walk)
Subject: mac <-> pc paint programs
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 20:13:25 GMT

I need a listing of all paint programs that can be easily used
by 2nd-8th graders that have programs for both mac and pc (dos or
windows).  (If not programs for both, at least 2 progs. w/ fairly
close interfaces.)

Thanks.
(Please email because I don't normally read this group)

					Todd Walk
					walk@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu
From: jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Textures Editor
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:06:08 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Oct12.123502.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> lmlars01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
~I use Textures with Nisus as the editor. All you have to do is leave a main
~file open in Textures with the command \input myfile.

Sounds a good idea, but how does it work in "Flash" mode?


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          "That's too Libertarian for me"
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From: ifbb657@cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: AutoMac - word5
Keywords: word
Date: 9 Oct 92 21:15:36 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.003206.15356@newsroom.utas.edu.au>  
Jane.Hogan@cc.utas.edu.au (Jane Hogan) writes:
> Hello folks
> 
> Word4 had a neat Macro feature called AutoMac. Can this be used with Word 5 
> and System 7?

I am not sure if AutoMac works with System 7.  Probably not.


> If not, does Word5 offer a similar feature?

No.

> If none of the above, is there an external application that will enable a 
> user to record macros for Word%?

Yes, QuicKeys 2 does macros very well.  QuicKeys 2 is by CE software.

> Thanks in advance
> 
> Jane


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From: d6caps@dtek.chalmers.se (Per Bergland)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Word 5.0 problem
Date: 14 Oct 92 13:53:03 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology

In article <719029967.F00003@blkcat.UUCP> Rick.Zeman@p943.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Rick Zeman) writes:
>On 10/12/92@7:20:22 PM, Per Bergland said regarding "Word 5.0 problem:" 
>
>  PB> From: d6caps@dtek.chalmers.se (Per Bergland) Newsgroups:
>  PB> comp.sys.mac.apps Organization: Chalmers University of Technology
>  PB> 
>  PB> Anyone know if there's a bug fix for MS Word 5.0 when it comes to
>  PB> handling large files w. lots of
>  PB> subscriptions?
> 
>  PB> Problem: 1) Not really a bug,but if I subscribe to a picture, scale it
>  PB> to let's say 75%, shouldn't Word keep my scaling even if the edition
>  PB> is updated? 2) Bug: If I perform a Save As... to the same name as the
>  PB> current, the document increases in size by about 800K every time I
>  PB> save. Not good. 
>
>Try turning off "Fast Save" in the prefs.  All that does append changes to the
>doc at the end
>of the file (gee, where else would it APPEND it to???) instead of rewriting out
>the whole file.

Bzzzzzzz... Wrong answer. Whoever programmed Word 5.0 didn't quite know
how to handle resources, so even if I start with document A, perform a
Save As... to document AII to remove all resource duplicates, and then 
(in order to keep the document name correct for my file series), and then
with AII open Save As.. A (yes I want to replace that file), all the darn
duplicate `sect`, `link` and `alis` resources are still there!!!!!!
I have found a work-around thou. Turning on save Backup, seems to cure
the problem since that's the same as renaming old file to Backup of... and
with no file with the original name in the directory performing a Save As...

Solution core: Never try to Save As... when you have an old
document with the new filename in the folder.

Hate that program sometimes.
Now, if Word could also follow the guidelines in IMVI, and open
the Publication if I option-doubleclick on it (Actually, that's just
a recommendation, but it only adds one line of code [ GoToPublisher])
Sigh..

Per
From: vanover@bcsaic.boeing.com (Jann VanOver)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Help needed: MS Word 5.0a
Keywords: menu commands...
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:51:13 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services AI Center, Seattle

c60a-bh@danube.Berkeley.EDU (Zaphod Beeblebrox) writes:
>
>   Hi.   I'm being driven up the wall with what seems to me to me an atrocious
>bug in Word 5.0a.   To explain:
>   I recently installed MS Word 5.0a, and went in to the Commands... dialog
>under the Tools menu.  For some reason, there was a separator in the Fonts
>menu where there should not have been one.  So I scrolled down until I found
>the --Separator-- command, then selected the position over the offending
>separator from the popup menus, expecting to see the Add button dim and the
>Remove button un-dim.  This did not happen.  I tried adding and then removing
>a separator from another place.  It did not remove either.  I tried the same
>thing again.  Same result.  Now I have THREE extra separators on my Fonts menu
>and that does not mesh well with my sense of esthetics.
>
>      Answers would be greatly appreciated!!!
>
>/--------Ben  Cottrell--------\
>\-c60a-bh@danube.berkeley.edu-/

A shot in the dark - do you have NOW Utilities?  My cubemate does and
his menus are REAL screwy!  He even disabled Now Menus and still gets
wierd file menus!


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: John T. Chapman <jtc1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: DiskDoubler/Dir.Assist. conflict?
X-Xxdate: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15: 02:16 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: jtc1@cornell.edu
Organization: Office of Computing and Statistical Consulting
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Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 13:52:25 GMT

In article <39588@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> Kevin Fairchild,
fairchil@helix.ucsd.edu writes:
>Has anyone else seen a conflict between DiskDoubler 3.7.7 and Norton's 
>Directory Assistance II 2.0?  Specifically, when DAII is installed and I
try 
>to use DD to Compress to..., Expand to..., or Copy to..., DD puts up the 
>Standard File box, but bombs after I press Save.  This is consistent and 
>repeatable.  I tested this without any other cps or extensions.  Is this
a) a 
>known bug for which Norton or Fifth Gen has a fix, b) a heretofore
unreported 
>but nevertheless valid bug report, or c) something spurious and funky
going on 
>with my system?
>
>Details:  I'm running a 4MB SE, system 7.0.1 tuned up, DD 3.7.7, DAII
2.0 
>(timestamped 2:01).  MacsBug says the error is "Address Error at
0040B058 
>_StripAddress +0888"  If that helps.

Unfortunately, I can't verify your problem. I have DD 3.7.7 and NDA II 
2.0 working fine together. I've got an 8M Mac II/coprocessor/Sys 7.0.1/
TuneUp 1.1.1.

Perhaps it's the 68000 or perhaps it's another extension?

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From: bernardo@erevax.bitnet (Marcelino Bernardo)
Subject: Re: Font organizing software.
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering, Co.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:23:21 GMT

In article <26900@castle.ed.ac.uk>, jeremy@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson)
wrote:
> 
> My font menus are now totally jammed with names of fonts, so I'm thinking
> of investing in some package to clean the mess up. The two I'm aware of are
> Adobe Type Reunion and Suitcase II. I'd be grateful for firsthand information
> on how these perform.
> 

Now Utilities 3.0.2 includes a control panel called WYSIWYG Menus which
does what you want.  Here are the options in the control panel:
     Unite font families
     Enable WYSIWYG font menus   - shows the fonts in their own typefaces
     Enable WYSIWYG Size menus   - shows font sizes in the currently
selected    
                                   font
     Enable WYSIWYG Style menus  - sorry I didn't understand this one
     Temporary disable/enable key - combination of option, shift, control,
cmd
     Exclude...      - allows you to turn WYSIWYG off in particular 
                        applications
     Reorder...      - arrange the order the way you like it.
It works and I doesn't appear to slow down the Mac.


Marcelino Bernardo
bernardo@erevax.bitnet
*These opinions are my own*
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: John T. Chapman <jtc1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Word 5 & Landscape w/ portrait pg #s
X-Xxdate: Fri, 16 Oct 92 15: 12:30 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: jtc1@cornell.edu
Organization: Office of Computing and Statistical Consulting
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d12
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 14:02:39 GMT

In article <1992Oct15.202410.14156@mail.cornell.edu> Bill Stearns,
whs1@cornell.edu writes:
>Does anybody know how to print the page numbers in portrait mode but the
>text in landscape?

There's a piece of PostScript code that will do just that; I've seen it 
in a collection of PostScript documents that do 'funky' things in Word. I 
think this is still at sumex-aim.stanford.edu, but I don't remember where 
I saw it (perhaps util?).

(Basically, it grabs the current page # and rotates it 90 degrees and 
puts it in the right spot. The rest of the printing is done normally.)

Of course, this doesn't help much if you're not printing to a PostScript 
printer...

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From: george@mech.seas.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Font for Microsoft Word 5.0 help (answer)
Keywords: i learned something new, can i go home?
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:11:11 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania, Mechanical Engineering


:>	Does anybody know off the top of their heads what font family and size 
:>Microsoft Word 5.0 uses in its Help windows?
:Looks like Geneva-10 to me.

resedit shows the following fonts in the word5.0a application:
".Word Chicago 12"
".Word Geneva 10"
".Word Symbol 18"
".Word Symbol 12"

( note the leading "." )

the symbol fonts are, btw, completely different from real "symbol",
...they appear to contain ruler icons and such.

for what it is worth, i have no geneva 10 ( only 9,12 ) in my system.
Geneva 10 looks like crap when used in a document, but the help menus
etc, are clearly done with nice looking geneva 10.

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From: tabron@binah.cc.brandeis.edu ("Sod the proles!")
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Which Word Processor?
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:13:05 GMT
Reply-To: tabron@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University

In article <lzj1H_5c=9@atlantis.psu.edu>, mek@guinan.psu.edu (Mark E. Kotanchek) writes:
>In article <1992Oct01.175051.118878@zeus.calpoly.edu>  
>rcarr@zeus.calpoly.edu (Robin) writes:
>> I am looking into purchasing a new Word Processor for my Mac.  I have  
>used
>> MS Word 4.0 and am not thrilled with it.  I tested out MacWrite II for
>> a few hours, and I'm not all that impressed with that either.  
>> 
>
>If you are writing long documents like theses or dissertations or want  
>some page layout capability, IMHO it isn't even close--you will regret not  
>having the power of FrameMaker. Although it runs reasonably well on my  
>Powerbook 170, the software prefers a large screen and at least 4 MB of  
>RAM. The software has a built in symbolic processor/equation formatter  
>which is GREAT (I only use Mathematica for heavy-duty symbolic processing)  
>as well as a reasonably good object-oriented drawing capability. In other  
>words, there's a lot of bank for the buck and it's more than just a word  
>processor.
>
>For the record, I was a heavy duty Word 4.0 user before I started with  
>FrameMaker and thought (at that time) it was the best of the Mac word  
>processors (compared to FullWrite and WriteNow). I also think that Word  
>5.0 is probably a very good choice if you are dealing primarily with text  
>or relatively small reports featuring equations and figures.
>
>Mark.
>--
>Mark Kotanchek
>Guidance & Control Dept - 363 ASB
>Applied Research Lab/Penn State
>P.O. Box 30
>State College, PA 16804

Word 5.0 is fabulous. I lerv it. I resort to PageMaker when needing to do
finicky column layout or graphic work more advanced than just placement
and touchup; otherwise Word 5 does everything I need. It has an equation
editor. It integrates graphics easily, and has a standard stripped-down
graphics toolbox of its own. It has voice annotation capability. It has 
indexing capability. You may not want or need all of this, but I am 
constantly amazed by the range of things Word 5 can do. It is a totally
different tool from Word 4. Recently I had to use Word 4 on a machine not
mine and I felt like I only had half a word processor. ("Where the hell's
the _ribbon_?" :-) And I used Word 4 for years.

--Judith

Judith L. Tabron		Raedwynn aet thaem Grene Wudu
Dept. of English Lit.		Yasun Bogeleku
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: a-giles@uchicago.edu (Aaron Giles)
Subject: Re: Beta testers wanted for JPEG/GIF viewer
Reply-To: a-giles@uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago High Energy Physics
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 13:16:43 GMT

Well, 48 hours later and it looks like I've got all the beta testers I
could ever need.  As of now, I will be accepting no further requests.
Look for JPEGView 2.0 to appear at your favorite FTP sites around the
end of October.

Thanks!
Aaron Giles
a-giles@uchicago.edu
From: Linda_Richards@mindlink.bc.ca (Linda Richards)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Ofoto E-mail address
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:26:03 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

The title is, I think, somewhat self-explanatory.

Does anyone out there have an e-mail address for the Ofoto people?

Thanks,
Linda

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From: long@mcntsh.enet.dec.com (Rich Long)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: System 7.1 & Fonts
Date: 14 Oct 92 02:22:47 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1992Oct13.195325.23349@midway.uchicago.edu>, simon@uhuru.uchicago.edu (Shandor Simon) writes...
>I have been playing with System 7.1 and have discovered that you cannot have 
>more then a certain number of fonts. I don't, off hand, remember how many, but
>I think that it was something like 128. This REALLY STINKS!!!! I assume that 

 It is unwise to speculate about unreleased software, but I think the #128
 limit applies to the number of font (or other resource) FILES that the system
 will open. I think the number of fonts (or other resources) within each file
 is a significantly higher, although still finite, number.

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From: mcn@cfa203.HARVARD.EDU (Charley Noecker, Prec Astron)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Word 5 recommendations? (Re-post)
Date: 10 Oct 92 19:35:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: cfa203.1992Oct10.193526.17983
Organization: Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory, Cambridge, MA,  USA

Sorry to the net if you've already seen this many times.  My Usenet
connection is apparently flaky; I've tried to post this 2-3 times, but
I've never seen it come up when I read later.

In the last few weeks, it seems there were quite a few gripes about MS
Word version 5.  I wonder if there is a consensus on whether (a) it's
mostly a good product, worth upgrading to, or (b) I'm better off with
v.4 until v.5.01 comes.  Comments?

Charley Noecker
noecker@cfa.harvard.edu