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From: herzer@urz.unibas.ch
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: WORD 5 mailing labels
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:33:46 MET
Organization: University of Basel, Switzerland


Has anyone out there used the mailing label maker of WORD 5.0?  I am
having some difficulty using the IF and ENDIF commands; I can't seem
to get rid of the blank lines.  Could it be a bug in the program?  Any
help in this matter would be appreciated.
                                           Thierry
                                           "Herzer@urz.unibas.ch"
From: jon@weber.ucsd.edu (Jon Matousek)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: WriteNow 3.0
Summary: Nisus Compact
Keywords: nisus compact word processing
Date: 12 Sep 92 17:53:16 GMT
Organization: Nisus Software, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <BuD501.FrL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:
>Yes the WriteNow style sheets are much better and easier to use than any
>other, especially Words.  I was under the impression that at least the original
>version of Nisus Compact did not have a spellchecker-that it was an extra cost
>item.  This to me is an unforegivable sin on the part of paragon.
>-Terry
>

Paragon, now Nisus Software, now includes the spellchecker and
additional modules with Nisus Compact. If you bought Nisus Compact previously
and do not have the spelling checker you can obtain it for free for the
cost of shipping. Nisus Compact is available at some Price Clubs on
the west cost with a Power Bundle--powerbook carrying case, Easy Alarms
and 3inThree game--for $99 US. Demo disks of Nisus and Nisus Compact are
also available for free, contact Nisus Software directly.

Cheers,

-jOn

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From: cokin@aludra.usc.edu (Darren Cokin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.misc,comp.sys.mac.wanted,k12.ed.math
Subject: Mac Calculus tutor for sale
Date: 4 Sep 92 23:32:53 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Great program from Broderbund, called 'Calculus.'  Works on any mac, and uses
color if available.  Takes you step by step through all the basics, with lots
of graphs and animation. Shows steps to solve problems. Contains over 300 
sample problems.  Some of the topics covered in depth are: Precalculus, Limits,
Derivatives, Integrals, and Trig functions.  Very intuitive interface, and
easy to use.  Contains table of contents, and index, so you can look up 
specific things for help on a problem.  I couldn't have gotten through Calc 1
without this.  If your having any trouble at all, buy this, and you'll do
better.  Box, manual, disk, and registration card included.  First $50, or best
offer takes it (paid $70).  Send offers to cokin@aludra.usc.edu.


                                      Darren
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: Joel Sumner <js17@cornell.edu>
Subject: Text file editor wanted
X-Xxdate: Mon, 7 Sep 92 15: 35:42 GMT
Nntp-Posting-User: js17@cornell.edu
Organization: Trapped at Cornell University
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:30:53 GMT

I am looking for a general purpose text editor with the following
capabilities.  If anyone could recommend one, I would appreciate it. 
Please
e-mail me, I will summarize...

1) Free/Shareware (or under $30 or so commercial)
2) Multiple files open at once
3) Can view/edit files of a few hundered K (100K, 300K?)
4) Adjustable tabs and auto-indent preferred
5) Adjustable font/size for viewing/editing
6) System 7 compatible
7) Not too large in code size.

Teach Text can't do 2,3,4, or 5
I have tried Alpha and found that too much of a pain and a bit buggy
(4.0.3)
I have also used MicroEmacs and can't stand that either.  

Please help....
Joel Sumner
js17@cornell.edu
q4kx@cornella (Bitnet)
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From: jack@jato.jpl.nasa.gov (Jack Kobzeff)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: ClarisWorks vs. MacWrite
Date: 15 Sep 92 22:41:57 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: Jet Propulsion Lab

In article <5212@gold.gvg.tek.com>, bryanh@stout.gvg.tek.com (Bryan
Hilterbrand) wrote:
> 
> I'm considering purchasing either MacWrite II or ClarisWorks.  It's my
> understanding that ClarisWorks has a built-in word processor that is
> equivalent to MacWrite II. 

I would call it about 80% of Mac Write II, maybe 90%.

> I've heard the rumors that you can upgrade
> to MacWrite Pro (for little or no fee) if you have MacWrite II.
> 
> So I'm torn between buying one or the other -- is ClarisWorks going
> to have an upgrade that will make its word processor equivalent to
> MacWrite Pro,

They would have little reason to do this. Part of the 'logic' behind
integrated programs is that the individual who buys them doesn't need 'full
blown' applications. Therefore, the modules aren't quite as good as a stand
alone package. Quite often, a person will use an integrated package for
three or four modules, but will use a stand-alone program for the one
application where (s)he needs an 'industrial strength' program.

> or should I buy ClarisWorks and forget about MacWrite
> Pro?  I would like to get some of the things bundled in ClarisWorks
> (like the spreadsheet), but I'm probably going to do more heavy-duty
> word processing than using a spreadsheet.
> 
If you need a full stregnth word processor, get one (doesn't have to be
MacWrite) for your WP work, and get ClarisWorks for all your other work.

Jack Kobzeff     (jack@jato.jpl.nasa.gov)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: keegan-edward@cs.yale.edu (Edward Keegan)
Subject: Re: BBEdit question
Reply-To: keegan-edward@cs.yale.edu (Edward Keegan)
Organization: Edward T. Keegan, Director, Development & Operations
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 14:32:37 GMT

I used the patcher on BBedit 2.1.3 and see no results, still no
as-you-type word wrapping nor is the little icon mentioned in
the patcher displayed although it says it patched the file successfully.
Does the patcher need to be udated for 2.1.3?

Computer Science Department, Yale University
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Voice: 203-432-1254  FAX: 203-432-0593
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: frechett@DMI.USherb.CA (Bruno Frechette)
Subject: Scanned images on laser TOO LONG TO PRINT
Summary: Ca I speed up printing of scanned images on laser?
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- departement de Mathematiques et d'Informatique
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:50:51 GMT

You probably noticed that it takes a LONG time to print an image scanned
at 300 dpi on a poscript laser printer. Is there a way to make it go faster?

I noticed that on a deskwriter, it prints very fast... So I figured maybe
the posctcript language has a hrad time with all those dots...

This is even more annoying when printing a color scan on a color postcript
laser printer... Oh, it works! but man, 2 hours for a printout? Gimme a break!

Anyone with help? Shareware or commercial products, no matter what the solution
might be, I'll buy it!


-- 
| Bruno Frechette        | "You know why dogs rub their ass on the grass?" |
| frechett@dmi.usherb.ca |   "Because it FEELS great!"  - The Fisher King  |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: ivancich@eecs.umich.edu (John Eric Ivancich)
Subject: Microsoft Word 4.0 Ruler
Organization: University of Michigan
Distribution: comp
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:42:43 GMT


I have a document that I made a long time ago.  When I open it up, the
ruler spacing (i.e., the number of pixels that equals one inch) seems
to be different than it is for new documents I create.  So, the
inter-word spacing looks different--one is more spread out than the
other.

I've looked in the manual, through the help files, and through the
menus to see if I could see anything that refers to this.  I cannot.
In both cases, the ruler unit preference is inches.

Any ideas on why this is and how to change it (other than copying the
text from the old document and pasting it into a new document--I want
to know how to control this in general)?

Thanks,

Eric
(ivancich@eecs.umich.edu)
From: cromwell@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Quicken 4.0? 5.0? 6.0?
Date: 12 Sep 92 09:19:37 CDT
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Sep10.193528.9907@hou.amoco.com>, tachaimov@hou.amoco.com (Tom Chaimov) writes:
> I purchased Quicken 3.0 for the Mac not long ago.  I have
> a friend who runs Quicken 4.0 on his PC.  His version is
> a lot better than mine.  Apparently there's
> a v. 6.0 in the works for the PC.
> 
> My question:  Anybody know anything about a Quicken
> upgrade for the Mac?  When's it coming?  Why is the Mac
> version so far behind the PC version?  I called Intuit and
> they were most heinously uninformative.
> 
> Tom

I think that Quicken 3.0 is the latest Mac version.  I haven't
received any notice of an upgrade.  Intuit has been great to me.
-- 
Rick
From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: **WhiteKnight Updates**
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:58:26 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

In article <1992Sep7.175333.6594@ultb.isc.rit.edu> sjk6119@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>I'm still using version 11.07 of White Knight, and I simply see
>no reason to upgrade. I, and most people I know, just use it
>to emulate vt100 and do some simple transfers. For people like
>me it's not even worth $5, I like it just the way it is.

Updaters from WK 11.xx to 11.14 are available for free on 
mac.archive, and have been free on diskette from Freesoft.
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
From: eriks@lin.foa.se (Erik Svensson FOA2)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: MathType vs Expressionist
Date: 14 Sep 92 10:20:26 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: FOA, Linkoping, Sweden

Greetings

We've had some (ha!) problems with MathType 2.05, Word 4 and Sys 7.
It has reached the level where we are considering converting to another
equation writer. For various reasons we're not interested in Formulator.

Now I'm inviting opinions about both MathType and Expressionist. If you have
have used both, wonderful. If you haven't but have an opinion (informed, 
please!) let me here from you anyway.

Please respond by e-mail. If there's enough response I'll summarize to the net.

thanx

ps. Don't tell me to convert to Word 5. We're trying but MicroSloth is fighting
a stubborn rear-guard action and it doesn't seem like we'll roll up the front
any time soon. (MS said "you'll get it Real Soon Now"!)


--
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Guided Weapons Division		National Defense Research Establishment (FOA)
Stockholm			Sweden

net.address: 	eriks@fenix.lin.foa.se

"I've got LOT's of common sense. I just choose to ignore it." -- Calvin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: hartley@centerline.com (Timm Hartley)
Subject: FileGuard
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.apps
Organization: CenterLine Software
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 15:20:09 GMT

I'm looking for a utility (pref. shareware) that would enable me to put a
password on selected files. I have a boss who uses his mac at home and
needs to protect his files from his 2 children who are becoming advanced
macjockies. Someone in my office suggested FileGuard, but says that it's a
little buggy.

Thanks!

       Timm Hartley I Production Assistant
CenterLine Software I hartley@centerline.com
      10 Fawcett St I "Back off man! Don't 
Cambridge, MA 02138 I make me use this!!"
                         -Ren Hoek-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: sfr@inel.gov ()
Subject: Re: RAM disk for system 7?
Reply-To: sfr@inel.gov ()
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory 
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 21:55:11 GMT


In article <1992Sep14.203705.27376@menudo.uh.edu>,
sunnyt@coding.bchs.uh.edu writes:
|> Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
|> Path:
|>
mica.inel.gov!pmafire!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!menudo.uh.edu!usen
net
|> From: sunnyt@coding.bchs.uh.edu
|> Subject: RAM disk for system 7?
|> Message-ID: <1992Sep14.203705.27376@menudo.uh.edu>
|> Sender: usenet@menudo.uh.edu (USENET News System)
|> Nntp-Posting-Host: franklin.bchs.uh.edu
|> Reply-To: ln63sdm@sdcc4.ucsd.edu
|> Organization: University of Houston
|> Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 20:37:05 GMT
|> Lines: 9
|> 
|> 
|> Is there a ram disk program like 'Ram Disk+' or a new version of 'Ram
|> Disk+'  
|> that works with system 7.  If there is one, is it commercial,
|> shareware, or  
|> freeware??  I can't get 'Ram Disk+' (can't remember which verion, but
|> its kind  
|> of old) to run on my IIsi with system 7.  Any information will be
|> greatly  
|> appreciated. Thanx!!
|> 
|> sunnyt@dna.bchs.uh.edu
|> 
|> 


I ran into the same problem and (fortunatly) found AppDisk at about the
same time. It is an application instead of an extension so you can start
it anytime including putting an alias in your Startup Items folder. You
set the size of the disk by setting the memory size in the Get Info box.
Appdisk has an autosave feature that writes the contents of the disk
back into the application file every x minutes. It's a $15 shareware
item from Mark Adams and it can be found at sumex.


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From: v065hjku@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Jason Osborne)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: Freeware Screen Saver
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:59:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

>I am looking for a freeware screen saver for our Macs. Everything I run
>across seems to be shareware. Any suggestions, anyone? Please?

My 0.02$ is that Darkside of the Mac is the best choice.  It may or may not 
be freeware, but if it is shareware, it is cheap, because I am a 
grad student and could afford it.  It is also an application, not a init or cdev
and it is TINY in memory size.  It allows background processes to run
UNHINDERED, even on my lame classic.  I can download binhexed docs at
98-99% efficiency with darkside running in the foreground, which is
pretty good.  

______________________________________________________________________________
Jason Osborne | Disclaimer: Who'd listen to me anyway?
______________________________________________________________________________
For information on the Underground Phont Archive, drop me a note via email
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: gleeson@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Red Mountain)
Subject: Re: Renumbering Disinfectant?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:38:15 GMT

And what does Apple think will happen when the version number for an
application gets to 9.9?

:-)

Marty.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: pejacoby@mmm.serc.3m.com (Paul E. Jacoby)
Subject: Re: Re: Wanted: System 7 compatible McSink
Organization: 3M Company
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 00:51:10 GMT

In article <15870.2AA69A6E@zeus.ieee.org> Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart) writes:
>Preferred Publishers admits that Vantage 1.6.1 is NOT system 7 compatible -
>that's one of the things they plan on providing in 2.0.  They are closer than
>you suggest to a release of 2.0 - I just got a card in the mail about it.  The 
>developer has had a few problems with system 7, but it sounds like it'll be
>pretty soon.

What's not compatible?  I've been running 1.6.1 under System 7.0 since
before System 7.0 was released (and Vantage was version 1.5something).
Nary a problem on my INIT-infested system.

What doesn't work?  I'm confused.
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From: johnston@me.udel.edu (Bill Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: **WhiteKnight Updates**
Date: 5 Sep 92 06:42:43 GMT
Organization: University of Delaware

A fairly complete set of 11.xx -> 11.yy updaters is available 
on mac.archive.umich.edu.
-- 
-- Bill Johnston (johnston@me.udel.edu)
-- 38 Chambers Street; Newark, DE 19711; (302)368-1949
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se (Jon W{tte)
Subject: Re: ZModem Tool...
Originator: d88-jwa@dront.nada.kth.se
Organization: Royal Institute of Technology, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 10:27:30 GMT

> Glen.Stewart@f175.n2240.z1.ieee.org (Glen Stewart) writes:

   The author of the Kermit tool just announced that he is looking at writing a
   Zmodem tool.  He was looking for good documentation on Zmodem.

Well, so am I, for the very same reason... (but I didn't write
the Kermit tool :-)

-- 
Jon W{tte, h+@nada.kth.se, Sweden, Phone +46-8-107069

Help eradicate FIDO-Net <-> Usenet gateways in our time!
From: es2j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Edward John Sabol)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: disinfectant 3.0????
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:24:41 GMT
Organization: Doctoral student, Physics, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Excerpts from netnews.comp.sys.mac.apps: 4-Sep-92 Re: disinfectant
3.0???? by John Andrews@sp1.csrd.ui 
> Nope, you summed up my feelings exactly. Disinfectant works well, has a clean
> interface, is updated for new viruses very quickly, and is free. Can't ask
> for more than that.

Well, personally, I would really like a color icon for the Finder. Is
that too much to ask for?
From: stu@cs.man.ac.uk (Paul Stewart)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Where can I find a "y = " graph drawing program???
Date: 12 Sep 92 12:56:48 GMT

I am looking for a PD program that will allow me to simply
enter an equation like " y = sin(x) " and will plot me
a graph, no fancy stuff needed...

There used to be something at Sumex that I downloaded,
I lost it, and can't remember what it was called...

Any help, much appreciated...

(Can mail me direct!!, don't bite!!)

-Paul Stewart -System Manager -University Of Manchester

-stu@cs.man.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Joel E Callan)
Subject: Re: Freeware Screen Saver
Originator: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Reply-To: callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:04:28 GMT

From article <1992Sep9.174239.23656@den.mmc.com>, by b78261@venus.cap.mmc.com (Kevin Brislin):
> I am looking for a freeware screen saver for our Macs. Everything I run
> across seems to be shareware. Any suggestions, anyone? Please?
> 
> Kevin


  Kevin, check out Darkside of the Mac, and Vector Plasma.

Joel Callan   callan@csd4.csd.uwm.edu

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
From: aps2745@zeus.tamu.edu (SEGAL, AARON PHILIP)
Subject: Re: MORSE program
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:39:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.080034.8946@ugle.unit.no>, terjer@ifi.unit.no (Terje Rydland) writes...
>I'm looking for a program to help me practise the MORSE alphabet
>with my Mac.

I've almost completed a rather nice one. If you are interested in HAM radio, and
do not yet hold a code-license, E-Mail me here at Aggieland. I've got an advance
class license, and could offer you some tips. The best way is through practice!

Aaron Segal
N5YPT/AA
From: asrs@acad2.alaska.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Requesting German Dict.
Date: 11 Sep 92 20:27:10 GMT
Organization: University of Alaska

I'm looking for a german dictornary for the macintosh. I would like to beable
to use it with word 5.0 but if you have any dictornies. Please conact me on get
a copy or where to buy a copy
From: bsala@weber.ucsd.edu (Brian Sala)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps
Subject: Re: WriteNow 3.0
Date: 12 Sep 92 05:04:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

In article <BuD4uL.FoL@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tlt38517@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Terry Thiel) writes:
>Eric.Choi@p5.f57.n7000.z8.ieee.org (Eric Choi) writes:
>>The version 5.0 is getting awefully large and slow to launch (yes, we have a
>>lot of fonts). We are seriously considering WriteNow 3.0. It appears to be a
>>leaner and faster program.
[stuff deleted]
>WriteNow 3.0 is indeed leaner and faster while offering as many or more options
>as other word processors of its type.  But be aware that it is not supposed to
>be a mega word proccesor on the order of Microsoft Word.  It may not have
>some features you desire.  What are you using Word for right now?
BTW I can [stuff deleted]
>-Terry

I agree with terry.  WriteNow is small and quick for simple jobs. and
the style sheets are a pleasure, compared to Word.  the main problems I
have with it is not being able to use endnotes instead of footnotes,
and the fact that my department is all IBM-compatibles running Word.
If I want to port files back and forth from work, Word is it.
--brian
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.apps,comp.sys.mac.wanted,comp.sys.mac.sys
From: steinman@is.morgan.com (Jan Steinman)
Subject: Comparison: FastBack & Retrospect?
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Company
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:09:43 GMT

Will someone familiar with both describe what's different between
Retrospect and FastBack? I'm using FastBack, but am somewhat
dissatisfied with its user interface and ease-of- use.

Anyone have a copy of Retrospect they want to sell? I had one offer,
but it was 88% of the best mail-order price, which is a bit steep.

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