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From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Nobel Prize Winner Speaks about Lanka.....
Date: 12 Jan 93 10:37:32 GMT

Sri Lanka in news.... NPR Interview with Archbishop Desmond Tutu:
 
Show: All Things Considered,  Jan. 02, 1993, Saturday

Host: Katie Davis
 
... We asked Archbishop Desmond Tutu, the 1984 Nobel Peace Prize winner
from South Africa, to share his  thoughts on these problems.  Archbishop
Tutu says in the case of the former Yugoslavia, intervention, even force-
ful intervention, is now a moral obligation.
 
Archbishop Desmond Tutu :  I do  actually  believe that there--there are
times when the  world community must step in and  say, "Thus far  and no
further."  We cannot tolerate this  kind of conflict  because it poses a
very, very real threat to the world community.  We cannot--we cannot sit
by and see what is happening in the former Yugoslavia and say, 'Ah, well,
this is something that  is being contained within the boundaries of that
particular country,' because, for one thing, there are  Muslims in other
parts of the world who are going to be incensed by what they see happen-
ing to the fellow adherents of the faith, and--and that just means that-
I mean, a world  that already  does have enough  tensions has the situa-
tion exacerbated beyond the bounds of being controlled and contained....

Davis:  I wanted to ask you about what you think of the military  inter-
vention in Somalia.
 
Tutu: I believe that, ultimately, there is a justification for the world
to see.  You know, we  can't be looking  on and seeing  children walking
around like walking skeletons with gaunt eyes and all skin and bones and
there is food  available  and they  can't reach  that food because  some
people have guns.   I mean, we've got to see--why  did they get the guns
in the first place?  Where did  they get the  guns?  And, again, you see
morality is so crucial to continued human community......  
 
Davis: Did you have any misgivings at all about this  intervention?  Did
it  raise any  specter for you of colonialism, even if it is  being done
for humanitarian reasons?  

Tutu:  I mean, there are a lot of problems about it.  I mean, one of the
problems is why should it happen there and not elsewhere?  Why is it not
happening in Sri Lanka, for instance?  But I would, myself, say that the
situation is so desperate that it may  be a paradigm.  I mean, the world
may be saying, "Although  we do this with  very great reluctance, it  is,
in fact, a moral universe. Your goodness matters, compassion matters, in-
justice  matters, and we  cannot pretend  that we aren't moral creatures,
that God actually  has put  us on this earth and  made us people who can
make choices, that we're created," and that is what makes us persons and
that is why a person has to be reverenced, treated with awe, that we are
able to choose to say yes to God or no.

Vicky:
UMass, Jan 12
From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: Lanka in the National TV.....
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:43:17 GMT

Vicky (vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu) writes: >>

>> 	Sri Lanka was again in the discussion in the national TV.  This 
>> time, in the new year, it was in ABC's "This week with David Brinkley"..
> 
>> Mr. DONALDSON: But it's our duty now to bring about coalitions to save
>> people  all over the world?  Again,   Sri Lanka's  my favorite example.
>> Should  George Bush have  really gotten in there and gotten the Tamils
>> and Singhalese together?

m1pkd00@fed.frb.gov (Prasad K. Dharmasena) writes: >
 
> True, Sri Lanka seems to be Sam Donaldson's favorite example.  This is
> the third or fourth time he mentioned SL in this same context in this
> same TV program.  But, none of the others take up on his lead and talk 
> about SL.

	I guess Sam is doing a lot of reading regarding Lanka.  Maybe he
senses something(!) and prepares himself well in time. Lanka is the only
country to be mentioned after Japan, Germany and ex-USSR in both Democra-
tic and Republican National Conventions, ain't it?

> How about a few letters to Sam Donaldson asking him to do a piece
> on SL on "Prime Time Live?"    :-)

	Why not? I like to see Hema (our first lady) in the national TV!

Vicky:
UMass, Jan 06
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From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Sri Lanka thumps its nose at India....?
Date: 12 Jan 93 11:20:19 GMT

	Cameron Barr writes a series, "Towards a Hindu Nation?", in The
Christian Science Monitor.   He writes: ".......Some analysts have diag-
nosed a national inferiority  complex - a feeling that India somehow is
unable to claim its proper place in the world - that angers Indians and
makes  them receptive  to a rhetoric  of national  revival promoted  by
Hindu nationalists...."

The Christian Science Monitor, Jan. 08, 1993.

Toward a Hindu Nation?   After Ayodhya. Part 6 of a series. 


	... Indeed, members of the National Volunteer Corps or Rashtriya
Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), an organization formed in 1925 to promote Hindu
culture, argue  that Indians  have yet to dispel a torpor  brought on by
1,000 years of domination  by Muslim conquerors and European colonizers.
"So far we have  been very, very  submissive," says  Tarun Vijay, an RSS
member who edits a Hindi  weekly published by the organization. "We have
traits of being subjects of the British and Mogul empires."

	Independence  from Britain, obtained in 1947, by no means put an
end to  submissiveness, in  Mr. Vijay's view.  India's post-independence
rulers, PrimeMinister Jawaharlal Nehru in particular, were too enchanted
by the developed world, he says, adopting a  socialist, state-controlled
economy highly in vogue in Nehru's time and closely following the British
model for India's judicial system.

	Some analysts have diagnosed a national inferiority  complex - a
feeling  that India somehow  is unable to  claim its proper place in the
world - that angers Indians and makes  them receptive  to a rhetoric  of
national revival promoted by Hindu nationalists.

	Bharat Wariavwalla, a historian at the  Center for the  Study of
Developing  Societies (CSDS) in  old Delhi, explains  this dynamic: "You
are bullied by Americans and Europeans into signing the NPT",a reference
to the  Nuclear Non-Proliferation  Treaty, which  India  refuses to sign,
insisting on a global disarmament agreement. "The Chinese are in the big
league and you're not. No one consults you on the Middle East. Sri Lanka
thumbs  its nose at us; we had  to retreat from  Sri Lanka.  Does anyone
take us seriously?"

============
Thanks:  The Christian Science Monitor

Vicky:
UMass, Jan 12
From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Hacked to Death......?
Date: 9 Jan 93 15:09:34 GMT

Reuter, quoting a TULF MP, reports that Tamil passengers crossing
the Elephant Pass Lagoon had been HACKED to death by Lankan Navy.
Government and Army of Sri Lanka expect the passengers to go thru
the Elephant Pass Army Check-point. Rebels don't want to open the
land route, fearing a possible Army movement.

Results?  Increasing death toll!  

>39 Civilians reported killed in Sri Lanka attack:

>A Tamil group said on Wednesday at least 39 civilians were killed by Sri
>Lanka's navy last week while crossing a northern lagoon. The navy attack
>was  carried out on  Saturday  night on a  flotilla  of boats crossing a
>lagoon separating the Jaffna peninsula from the rest of Sri Lanka.  

>Travel is banned on the lagoon and people can be shot on sight.

>The  Tamil United Liberation Front (TULF), which gave the  death toll of
>39, said a regional medical officer and an  education officer were among
>those killed.

>....so far 15 bodies - eight men and seven women- had been washed ashore.
>Five other travellers were injured.  The attack drew widespread condemna-
>tion from all quarters except the government and the military. 

>TULF parliamentarian Pararajasingham  Joseph said some  victims had been
>hacked to death.

======

Vicky:
UMass, Jan 09
From: vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Lanka in the National TV.....
Date: 5 Jan 93 11:00:58 GMT

	Sri Lanka was again in the discussion in the national TV.  This 
time, in the new year, it was in ABC's "This week with David Brinkley"..

THIS WEEK WITH DAVID BRINKLEY, January  3, 1993

From ABC News, This Week with David Brinkley. Now, from our Washington
headquarters, here's David Brinkley.....

Ms. ROBERTS: .......  If George Bush had put together the same kind of
coalition to deal with Bosnia that he did to deal with Persian Gulf, I
think that the situation would be considerably better than it is today.
 
Mr. DONALDSON: Well, perhaps, but  Bush put  the coalition together to
save the oil in the  Mideast, which  was in our economic benefit.  Are
you saying that we should now move again, whether we use troops or not?
Put them aside, so we don't have an inflammatory conversation.
 
Ms. ROBERTS: Not that. Anything but that.
 
Mr. DONALDSON: But it's our duty now to bring about coalitions to save
people  all over the world?  Again,   Sri Lanka's  my favorite example.
Should  George Bush have  really gotten in there and gotten the Tamils
and Singhalese together?
 
Ms. ROBERTS: I think it's  very much in  our national  interest not to
have ethnic cleansing going on in Bosnia.
 
Mr.  DONALDSON: All  right, so  humanity's  national interest, perhaps,
but we're not one world yet.
 
Mr. WILL: Humanity isn't a nation.
 
Mr. DONALDSON: Exactly. We're not one world yet.

====
Vicky:
UMass, Jan 05
From: lal@water.cee.clarkson.edu
Subject: health care
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:30:45 GMT

     I would appreciate if anyone can let me know about  any
     Sri  Lankan  physician  or  a health care worker in the
     Kentucky  -  W  Virginia  -   Alabama   -   Mississippi
     (Appalachian)  area.  I like to know a few things about
     rural health care clinics and if they hire foreign born
     physicians  who  have completed residency in this coun-
     try. This has become very important to me.
                                      Sincerely
                                     Sepalika Wasanthalal
                                  lal@water.cee.clarkson.edu

--
Rob Logan           AMA        -----|-----   ARRL         n2qcn@k2cc-2.ampr.org
Clarkson ERC        IRCHA   *>=====[_]L)     EAA          AirBorn
Potsdam, NY 13699   PRA           -'-`-      PADI         USSA
work: 315-268-2292  fax: 315-268-6570        home: 315-265-2679
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: an3922@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Re:We can do it
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 05:52:02 GMT

 an4465@anon.penet.fi writes:

>I'm George Bush.  You must be J. Herath. 
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	Stop clowning with the computer and help Barbara with the
	packing	George!! 
		J. Herath hmm lets see... wasnt he the 
	chap who dropped in for Millie's book signing??(:-

	


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From: ynesiah@skat.usc.edu (Yogala Nesiah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: We can do it
Date: 11 Jan 1993 16:56:46 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1993Jan12.000105.19998@fuug.fi> an3922@anon.penet.fi writes:
> an4465@anon.penet.fi writes:
>
>>I'm George Bush.  You must be J. Herath. 
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	Stop clowning with the computer and help Barbara with the
>	packing	George!! 
>		J. Herath hmm lets see... wasnt he the 
>	chap who dropped in for Millie's book signing??(:-
	******************************************

	Sounds like inside information to me.
	Who is this masked washington insider?
	;->


- Deep Third Man
From: muttiah@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu (Ranjan S Muttiah)
Subject: Re: Anonymous Postings - Good or Bad? was Re: Hacked to Death......?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 00:37:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan12.235223.19100@athena.mit.edu> nalin@athena.mit.edu (Palitha Nalin Wikramanayake) writes:
>	Oh, Oh - just when gmuvax, mitre etc. have become a thing of the past
>	thanks to my faithful KILL file here comes this anonymous thing. The
>	problem is that if I kill the @anon address I might miss some legitimate
>	anonymous posting.
>	So .... a question
>	Is it OK to post anonymously to this group - I mean is there a 
>	legitimate reason to do so? What do people think? I am in favour
>	of people signing their postings and lean towards killing the
>	entire anonymous thing (at least in this group).
>	Nalin

I think it is first bad, and then second good.  Bad because the person posting
anonymously can be very silly (we have lived through that one once before
haven't we :-).  Good because the person won't be distinguished by his or
her religion/ethnicity anymore.  Most of the discussion here has been centered
on just such issues.   What you do with your kill files is your business of
course.  Unless you want to show it to us :-).
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: an4465@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Re: Lanka in the National TV....
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:34:18 GMT

Vicky (vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu) writes: >
   I guess Sam is doing a lot of reading regarding Lanka.

Or more likely that he has a couple of SriLankan neighbours or has
met quite a few of them since they are running away from they are
country.  Sam is sensing something wrong there.
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From: an5089@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Hey we can do it too
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:22:11 GMT

	Hey we know who you are.Stop posting anonymously.

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From: muttiah@thistle.ecn.purdue.edu (Ranjan S Muttiah)
Subject: Re: Monks Strike Again.......
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:25:56 GMT

In article <1ik51mINNhmc@skat.usc.edu> ynesiah@skat.usc.edu (Yogala Nesiah) writes:
>Vicky writes:
>
>Literacy level  of Sri Lanka is 87 percent.  I guess  the rest 13% call
>themsleves "monks". Every sensible person in Lanka knows that this "war"
>must  come to an end.  Number of  people  taken by  the bullets and the
>amount of money spent in war are too much.  This war must be stopped at
>any cost.  One of the first steps  may be to separate religon  from the
>state.  We need a John Kottalawela (sp?)!!
>
>LANKA MONKS PRESENT MEMO TO PRESIDENT
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...(rest of the memo deleted)....
>Most Thamil speaking people in Lanka seem to be of the opinion that
>all Buddhist Priests/Monks are rabidly communal minded rabble rousers.
>
>This opinion is not entirely undeserved. Unfortunately some Buddhist 
>Monks havebeen involved in lankan politics for the better part of this 
>century. Some of them were seen leading mobs during the communal riots 
>of 1958, 1977, 1983, etc...
>
>They endorse political candidates and campaign for and against political
>candidates.  They position themselves as guardians of the Sinhala speaking 
>people of Lanka and Buddhism itself.
>
>These monks might be the vocal majority but they do not speak for all
>Buddhist monks.  They are many who don't get involved in politics and then 
>there are thoes monks who feel that a non-violent solution to the problem is 
>best for Lanka.  There are many such monks who are involved in the Peace
>movement.  These are the monks who go on peace missions to the north&east.
>Unfortunately these few monks don't have the political clout that some of
>their brethren have.  Their voices are often drowned out by the very vocal
>monks who preach that: 
>		Tamil = Tiger = Indian Hindu Hegemony = Remember the Cholas   

Which raises the question: if as Vicky says 13% illiterates are able to influence
the 87% literates, then it seems to me that it should be the reverse and the
87% should called illiterates.  Talk about the lobbying power of special interest 
groups.  However, I agree with your statement regarding the Buddhist clergy.  There 
are some who are concerned about involving their religion with politics.
From: m1pkd00@fed.frb.gov (Prasad K. Dharmasena)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: Lanka in the National TV.....
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:09:20 GMT

Vicky (vigneswa@ecs.umass.edu) writes:

> 	Sri Lanka was again in the discussion in the national TV.  This 
> time, in the new year, it was in ABC's "This week with David Brinkley"..

> Mr. DONALDSON: But it's our duty now to bring about coalitions to save
> people  all over the world?  Again,   Sri Lanka's  my favorite example.
> Should  George Bush have  really gotten in there and gotten the Tamils
> and Singhalese together?

True, Sri Lanka seems to be Sam Donaldson's favorite example.  This is
the third or fourth time he mentioned SL in this same context in this
same TV program.  But, none of the others take up on his lead and talk 
about SL.  Maybe others don't know about the situation in SL.  (George
Will must be too busy following baseball teams and Cockie (sp?) Roberts
must be too busy still reading her father's (or is it Uncle's) work with
the Warren Commission on JFK assasination.)

How about a few letters to Sam Donaldson asking him to do a piece
on SL on "Prime Time Live?"    :-)

prasad
From: m1pkd00@fed.frb.gov (Prasad K. Dharmasena)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: We can do it
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:06:36 GMT
Reply-To: m1pkd00@fed.frb.gov (Prasad K. Dharmasena)
Organization: Federal Reserve Board, Wash, DC


Deep Third Man says:
> In article <1993Jan12.000105.19998@fuug.fi> an3922@anon.penet.fi writes:
> > an4465@anon.penet.fi writes:
> >
> >>I'm George Bush.  You must be J. Herath. 
> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >	Stop clowning with the computer and help Barbara with the
> >	packing	George!! 
> >		J. Herath hmm lets see... wasnt he the 
> >	chap who dropped in for Millie's book signing??(:-
> 	******************************************

> 	Sounds like inside information to me.
> 	Who is this masked washington insider?
> 	;->

Yeah, I'd like to know too.  Maybe we'll run into each
other in Washigton, eh?  Is this masked man an FOB (Washington
terminology)?  Or an FOB (Immigration Terminology)?  It must be
the latter case because he (she?) uses that dead-beat Colombo-7
English slang thang, "chap."

BTW, what "Millie's book signing?"  I thought it was Vanilie's 
lip-sync workshop.

prasad
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From: ynesiah@skat.usc.edu (Yogala Nesiah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Shipping Information - Request
Date: 6 Jan 1993 13:01:09 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu
Keywords: e-mail response (please)

		------SHIPPING INFO NEEDED---------

Some friends and I plan to ship some personal effects to Sri Lanka.
There seem to be a huge number of shippers/freight forwarders out there
with a wide variety of rates and services. I assume that most of the readers
of these networks might know some people who had used the services of a 
shipper/freight forwarder.

If there is anybody out there who has / or knows somebody who has
shipped similar items to Sri Lanka / India/ Pakistan we would like to
hear about it.  Please include as much information as possible.
Such as:
	* Name, address, tel # of the shipping company.
	* cost and form of payment
	* volume / weight that was shipped
	* Approximate date of shipment (month/year)
	* Points of origin and destination (New York or Los Angeles to Colombo)
	* mode of transport (AIR or SEA)
	* Experience with the shipping company (favourable or unfavourable)
	* Any other information/comments/advice you want to include.
	

I will edit all the info I get and post a complete file of information
similar to the travel agents file that floats around these networks.

Please e-mail your information / comments / advice to:

	ynesiah@skat.usc.edu

Thanks in advance,


Vasee

ynesiah@skat.usc.edu
From: ynesiah@skat.usc.edu (Yogala Nesiah)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
Subject: Re: Monks Strike Again.......
Date: 8 Jan 1993 07:02:14 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu


Vicky writes:

Literacy level  of Sri Lanka is 87 percent.  I guess  the rest 13% call
themsleves "monks". Every sensible person in Lanka knows that this "war"
must  come to an end.  Number of  people  taken by  the bullets and the
amount of money spent in war are too much.  This war must be stopped at
any cost.  One of the first steps  may be to separate religon  from the
state.  We need a John Kottalawela (sp?)!!


LANKA MONKS PRESENT MEMO TO PRESIDENT
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ...(rest of the memo deleted)....

-------------------

Most Thamil speaking people in Lanka seem to be of the opinion that
all Buddhist Priests/Monks are rabidly communal minded rabble rousers.

This opinion is not entirely undeserved. Unfortunately some Buddhist 
Monks havebeen involved in lankan politics for the better part of this 
century. Some of them were seen leading mobs during the communal riots 
of 1958, 1977, 1983, etc...

They endorse political candidates and campaign for and against political
candidates.  They position themselves as guardians of the Sinhala speaking 
people of Lanka and Buddhism itself.

These monks might be the vocal majority but they do not speak for all
Buddhist monks.  They are many who don't get involved in politics and then 
there are thoes monks who feel that a non-violent solution to the problem is 
best for Lanka.  There are many such monks who are involved in the Peace
movement.  These are the monks who go on peace missions to the north&east.
Unfortunately these few monks don't have the political clout that some of
their brethren have.  Their voices are often drowned out by the very vocal
monks who preach that: 
		Tamil = Tiger = Indian Hindu Hegemony = Remember the Cholas   


- Vaseeharan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.sri-lanka
From: 880478s@axe.acadiau.ca (CHARLES LEONARD STRICKLAND)
Subject: JVP uprising or just rumour
Keywords: JVP
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:18:34 GMT

In various news reports and from letters received from friends of mine in 
the Southern Province I have informed that a recent crime wave - various 
forms of criminal activity are said to be the responsibility of the JVP. 
Could anyone tell me if this is so? As well if this is true what does it 
mean for long term stability within that part of the country - is there 
anything progressive happening as regards youth and development?
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