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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: ENDOR: Planet or moon?
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:32:48 GMT

In article <1992Nov2.140934.22885@tolten.puc.cl> IIC2912@malloco.Ing.puc.cl (IIC2912) writes:
>jpurcell@vax1.umkc.edu wrote:
>: a planet.  Plus, I nver did see a star that Endor was orbiting...but that
>: doesn't mean much, I guess, but as it goes, mayby it's worth $0.02.
>
>C'mon. There MUST be a star. We see day and night in the forest moon.
>
>Sorry 'bout my Tarzan speak.
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Hey, good point!  They do have day and night, rather like earth
(meaning daily, meaning like Earth-days!..) Geez, this group is so
literal..(I love it =-) )

Besides, no one has mentioned hte most reliable source of all...

......  S T A R   T O U R S  ........


Hell, what more could you need than an actual trip to the moon itself?
But even this contradicts itself...During the preshow and the ride
itself, we are told we are taking a trip to the ENDOR MOON, so I've
always believed in the missing planet of Endor...BUT, on the way out
we pass all the 'travel posters', which, after working at WDW for 2
summers, I have collected.  There is one for Hoth, one for Bespin, one
for Tatooine, one for some planet beginning with a 'Y'(Yavin?), and one for
ENDOR!!  So, did the moon just assume it's old bosses name, since
everyone probably got tired of saying MOON all the time??  Or were the
poster people just lazy??



Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
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From: smintz@sedona.intel.com (Stephen Mintz exp 11/92~)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars,rec.arts.sf.tv,rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: STAR WARS vs GALACTICA vs STAR TREK
Date: 10 Nov 1992 17:26:58 GMT
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Does all thing mean that "The day the earth stood still" wasn't real science
fiction?
:)
Stephen
From: padgett@inyo.caltech.edu (Deborah Padgett)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: THX-1138 references (was: R2D2 in Raiders)
Date: 11 Nov 92 17:00:35 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, University of Massachusetts at Amherst


[Claim that Indiana Jones' hired plane had call letters/numbers THX1138]

Nope - it was labelled OB-CPO.

Debbie
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From: dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper)
Subject: Re: WANTED: SW RADIO SHOW, EWOKS MOVIES, THANKSGIVING SPECIAL
Organization: University of Administrative Incompetence
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:28:06 GMT
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In article <BxF56J.Inr@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, rku45136@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rajiv Udani) writes...
>Something that wasn't mentioned that may be of interest to Star Wars fans
>is also the Ewoks and Droids Cartoon series that ran a few years ago. I think I have some on videotape somewhere back home, but I don't have all of them.
>Maybe someone on this newsgroup has all the cartoons...

I have all the ones from the second season, but none from the first, and 
the quality isn't spectacular on the ones I have.  I heard a year or two 
ago that they were going to release these on videotape, but have seen 
nothing since.

--Gallandro

    "Take it easy, kid.  It's only a movie."   --Ham Salad, "Hardware Wars"
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From: craig@odie.cs.mun.ca (Craig Coffin)
Subject: Re: ROTJ folks in BRAZIL
Organization: CS Dept., Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 11:58:28 GMT

ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>Watching Gilliam's BRAZIL this evening, I noticed Jack Purvis (Jawa & Ewok
>extrordinaire) in the part of "Dr. Chapman."  (I've seen the movie many times
>before, but never really made the connection...)
>
>On the other hand:  IAN HOLM and IAN RICHARDSON are both in BRAZIL.  Did not
>one of these men play the Emperor in ROTJ?  Which one?!?!  (Both sound familiar
>to me, so I'm not willing to place any bets...)  Wait a minute... It wasn't
>Ian Holm, right?  He played Ash in ALIEN, though... didn't he?  (Now I'm
>really confused...)

  Nope.  Ian MacDiarmad (sp?) played the emperor.  He also played the
fanatical priest in Dragonslayer.

-- 

Craig Coffin          |  "Try not.  Do, or do not.  There is no try."
craig@odie.cs.mun.ca  |       -- Yoda, TESB
From: un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Luke's lightsaber
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:11:50 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <1992Oct26.174540.9420@sol.UVic.CA>, acameron@engr.UVic.CA (Alan  Cameron) writes:
> In article 29401@ll.mit.edu, shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham) writes:
>>In article <1992Oct22.133910.3839@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:
>>>In article <1992Oct16.231057.19028@ll.mit.edu>, shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham) writes:
>>>> 
>>>> The lightsaber (LS) is powered and controlled by the force, Luke can make
>>>
>>>	Then how could Solo, if the weapon were powered by the force as you
>>>claim, use it to cut open the Tauntaun in ESB?  NO, what was happening was that
>>
>>Several readers have taken issue with my claim above. Well, let me make
>>it clear. The LS is *POWERED* by the force, but that does not require that
>>a Jedi hold it (or even that a Jedi be nearby, as was always the case anyhow).
>>The force, after all, is everywhere. The LS is *CONTROLLED* by the force, but
>>may (less effectively, presumably) be used by anyone. I doubt Han could deflect
>>blaster shots like Luke did. Cutting a dead Tauntaun is so easy, even Han could
>>do it.
>>
	This is bullshit.  The LS is NOT, NOT, NOT (get that yet?  Just in case
I'll put another one in) NOT powered by the force.  It is powered by a battery
pack, or whatever they use for energy in those days that SW is based in.  If it
were powered by the force, then Han could NOT have used it.  Sure the force is
everywhere, but does that mean that the force powers blasters too?  The LS
can be built by anyone with the knowhow.  But, to make the LS a competitive
weapon against a blaster, you have to be a force user to deflect blaster shots.

>>All in all, I don't think that this argument is very central to the trilogy.
>>What is more interesting, IMHO, is why are LS so valued? It still appears a
>>lame weapon compared to a blaster (someone has compared it to a sword facing a
>>machine gun). Are LS overrated? or what?
>>
>>Dan Shoham
>>shoham@ll.mit.edu
> 
> LS OVERRATED??   Excuse me....refering to your comparison of a machine gun vs
> sword...do you know of anyone that can deflect machine gun bullits with a
> sword??  I don;t think so...a LS can (in the right hands) deflect blaster
> beams away from the weilder or even back at the attacker...a sword could 
>never do that.
> 
> Alan Cameron
> 
> 
> 

I agree.  An LS is impractical for someone like Han, thought it would have it's
uses, since it can carve up armor like it does, but in the hands of Jedi it is
better than any other weapon out there.
From: scavanag@neumann.une.edu.au (Steven Cavanagh)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: More CHALLENGING QUESTIONS-IF YOU DARE!!!
Date: 6 Nov 92 22:47:35 GMT
Reply-To: scavanag@neumann.une.edu.au
Originator: scavanag@neumann.une.edu.au

From article <2NOV199222343654@deimos.ucc.umass.edu>, by hdw@deimos.ucc.umass.edu (H D WALDEN):
>STAR move from point "A" to point "B" in space. You never see any kind of rock-
>ets or thrusters on it.In ANH, after Luke, Han, C-3PO, R2-D2, and Chewie escape
> from the DS and shoot down those four TIE fighters, they go into hyperspace to
>the rebel base( forgive me, but I forget what planet it was on ).The next thing
> you know, the DEATH STAR is approaching the planet.My question is,HOW THE HELL
> DID IT GET THERE! Again, we never see any thrusters on it. Even if there were
> hidden thrusters that only appeared when the DS was moving,it would be IMPOSS-
> IBLE for any kind of thruster to generate the amount of energy needed to send 
> DEATH STAR into hyperspace!
> 
>    Any comments? I CHALLENGE YOU!

Look, stupid, it's quite simple.

They got ALL the TIE fighters to go around one side and warm up their drives,
then on the count of three...


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From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars,rec.humor,rec.humor.d
Subject: Re: The intact Lando-gets-killed-scene (was: Re: The Lando Scene in...
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:19:16 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <92309.233115DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu> DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>>     flash of self-destruction. All except Han cheer, as the thirty-
>>     year-old starship pilot feels a deep personal loss.
>
> So is this a definitive answer to the Han's-age question? Or a contradiction?

Maybe it means that Han is the pilot of a thirty-year-old starship.   :)

-- 
"Dog bites man--that's not a story.  Man bites dog--*that's* a story.  And
if the dog and the man slug it out for six issues, and then Wolverine shows
up for a guest appearance, and the dog turns out to be a mutant, that's a
*Marvel* story!"			-Marvel Editorial Handbook
From: ch134@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michelle Guydosh)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: OMmark hamill's accident
Date: 9 Nov 92 02:22:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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I was flipping through the TV guide a few months ago and saw that someone asked
for more info on mark hamill. One of the things said was that he had a accident
that altered his apperance.  Can anyone give more details on this.

michelle
From: shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Cute dinosaur scene cut from SW
Date: 11 Nov 92 21:57:08 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Nov11.152033.6294@ra.msstate.edu> paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil) writes:
>
>I saw the dino scene in Star Wars, but the dino was in the background
>where the stormtrooper picks up the metal ring and says "Look sir, droids!"
>
Oh, so that's what that background thingy is. I always thought it was the
lander (or perhaps a land vehicle) that the stormtroopers used to get to the
life-pod crash-landing site. Perhaps an AT-AT in a mount/dismount position.

I suppose it could be that the empire used domesticated dinos for land
transportation on Tatooine (like the rebel use of Tan-Tan on Hoth). I doubt
that a wild dino would be left alive by nearby stormtrooper under the "there
will be no one to stop us this time" policy.  However, the use of domesticated 
dinos would be most uncharacteristic of the empire. The empire is very
un-adaptable to local conditions. They rely on technology even when conditions
clearly degrade it's performance (like the use of 2-legged walker's on Endor).
The empire appears to have a total blind-spot on the subject of using anything
alive, even to the point of neglecting to consider the possibility that their
adversary might do so (hence the Empire's surprise at the existance - let alone
military effectiveness - of Ewoks). [A *VERY* notable exception to that rule
is Darth Vader use of bounty hunters in TESB]

While on the subject of Dino's on Tatooine:

C3-PO walks past the bones of a rather larger animal just before being
"rescued" by the Jawas. Hence, such large creatures must populate the planet.
Rancor (Jabba's pet monster that Luke killed), may be of the specie that those
bones belong to. Would you classify Rancor as a dino?

What do you guys think?

Dan Shoham               shoham@ll.mit.edu
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From: bl376@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joel I. Greenberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Jabba the Hut
Date: 13 Nov 1992 22:06:04 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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What exactly is Jabba? How did he walk/get around when he was little.  Also
I never understood why Luke could not use the Force on Jabba?  Was he too
Fat?!  
Was there any seen in ROTJ where Zahn might have gotten the idea for Mara
from?
P.S. I am only 14 so don't chew me up and spit me out.
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From: redfive@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Vian Lawson)
Subject: Re: More Questions - Luke 0n Dagobah
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 01:28:54 GMT

In <lfpalkINN487@earth.cs.utexas.edu> mmccartn@cs.utexas.edu (Michael David McCartney) writes:


>what reason could there be for Luke's initial familiarity with Dagobah after
>he landed and started setting up camp.  He made a comment that I wonder about:
>"Still, there's something familiar about this place."

Maybe the `something familiar' was not Dagobah itself, but the presence of
Ben Kenobi on it?  Untrained as he was, Luke might have been able to pick
up Ben's vibes\aura\id\soul\etc, without being able to identify it precisely.

>My only theory is that when Luke and Leia were being separated from their
>father (and presumable their mother), Obi-Wan brought Luke (and possible Leia)
>to Dagobah and asked Yoda's advice on hiding him/them before having Luke
>placed in the care of Ben's brother Owen (and Ben's old commander, Bail 
>Organa.)

Hmmmm - maybe, if it comes to that, Dagobah would have been a better
hiding place for the twins.  Then Luke could have been trained earlier et
al - actually, I don't think he was ever taken to Dagobah ... Yoda would
have said something, surely?  He went on about Luke's father, and how `a
long time had he *watched* Luke' ... 

>May the force be with us all and let the lines be short in 1997 (or '93? :-))

It will, they won't and I had heard 1995 ...:)

>Mike
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From: mbecke69@ursa.calvin.edu (Mark Becker)
Subject: Re: Who's Dia Noga?
Organization: Calvin College
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 00:53:08 GMT

un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:

>In article <1992Oct27.155525.23619@mixcom.com>, Ray.Chramega <Ray.Chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com> writes:
>> In <1992Oct27.063239.3621@newshost.unh.edu> ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink) writes:
>> 
>>>Hmmm.  I made a nice subject line, then realized that was all I really had to
>>>say.  So...who IS Dia Noga, anyway?
>>>-- 
>> 
>>    The creature in the trash compactor in the first film!
>> 
>	This is getting ridiculous.  I always called that thing "The thingy in
>the trash compactor in the death star".  Did the Star Wars guys name
>EVERYTHING?  I know they named some PEOPLE who's names weren't named in teh
>film, but a PROP???  Geez.  What will they think of next?  :)

Yeah, they did name almost everything!

And I heard a funny story about it . . .

After filming the compacter scene, and draining the compactor set, they found a
lump of something that nobody could identify.  Then somebody sang (to the tune
of Chatenooga Choo-Choo) "It's Dianoga Poo-Poo."

(And I got this from the "Making of Star Wars" TV special that they had on; we
videotaped it; so this is about as 'official' as you can get! Nyeah! :-)
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From: flowerpt@coos.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: THX-1138 references (was: R2D2 in Raiders)
Date: 12 Nov 92 04:14:31 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <dsblack.721517930@vincent2.iastate.edu> dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK) writes:
>
>I don't know if you noticed, but isn't that obvious?  Not what the call
>letters/#s were, but what they mean if they were OB-CPO.  They have to be a
>reference to Obi-Wan and C3PO.  What else _could_ they be?

Just like in Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom, you see the outside of
the Club Obi-Wan.  It's in the first part, in the Orient, as they are
fleeing the bad-guys. (Sort of)

-Bill
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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Endor Moon?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:20:15 GMT

ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>In article <Bx7A76.JvB@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter) writes:
>> phoenix.Princeton.EDU!carlosn (Carlos G. Niederstrasser) writes:
>> 
>>>In article <1992Nov3.152149.15489@ra.msstate.edu> paul@phoenix.tmc.edu  
>>>(Thorongil) writes:
>>>> Steve Stelter writes:
>>>> >
>>>> >I feel that Endor is the name of the moon, only because I think that's
>>>> >what Lucas intended.  The trilogy is pretty good about providing us with
>>>> >the names of important people, places, and things, and it seems unlikely
>>>> >to me that Lucas would neglect to tell us the name of the moon where so
>>>> >much of ROTJ's action takes place. 
>> 
>>>Not only that, but during the rebel briefing someone specifically menitions  
>>>that the new DS is around the _moon_ of Endor. 
>> 
>> "The forest moon of Endor" can be construed to mean that Endor and the moon
>> are the same thing, just as the phrase "The merry old land of Oz" is
>> normally (and correctly) construed to mean that Oz and the merry old land
>> are the same thing.

>Oh no!  We've come full circle back to the point with which I started this
>thread!  Just to throw another stone:

>In Star Wars, the Death Star battle takes place near the rebel base on the
>"4th moon of Yavin,"  which itself is never given a name.  Usage of "The Battle
>of Yavin" seems to be as accurate (and acceptable) as "The Battle of Bunker
>Hill," so ambiguity is inherent.  "The forest moon of Endor" remains 
>inconclusive in my mind, despite references cited from the novel -- the 
>description of the highly doubtful complete disappearance of the moon's mother
>planet makes it a less than reliable source for canonical info, IMHO.

Hmmm.  Maybe the best way to settle the issue is to see what Lucasfilm
has to say about the topic.  Does anybody have any "The Making of ROTJ"
literature or similar release from Lucasfilm in which Endor is or isn't
named as the forest moon?  One would assume that Lucasfilm would be a
reliable source on the subject.

                                    --Steve Stelter
                                      sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
From: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: NOT REALLY A (Cliff Claven Figure
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:43:52 GMT
Reply-To: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Originator: cmgeorg@c00083-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu


In article <1992Nov6.235801.26899@wheaton.wheaton.edu>, nnhill@david.wheaton.edu (Nathan N Hill) writes:
|>>
|>>	THERE IS A CLIFF CLAVEN STARWARS ACTION FIGURE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|>>
|>
|>I love my Cliff Claven figures. I have two of 'em. It's fun to sit one of them
|>down next to the Rancor Keeper and say, "another beer, Narmy?"
|>

I'd hate to interrupt all the fun you guys are having with this, but the 
Rebel Commander figure from the ESB line is *NOT* the guy you think it is.
This has bothered me for quite some time.  You see, the figure itself may look
like "Cliff" but the photo on the card is *NOT* of the same person.  In fact,
the person whose photo was used is wearing the same outfit but is missing one
important thing that distinguishes him from "his" figure.  THE GUY HAS NO
MOUSTACHE!! Plus the fact that it isn't John Ratzenberger anyway.  I'm *NOT* 
saying that he wasn't in the movie, just that he wasn't immortalized with a 
figure.

-chris
   
 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++                                                                           
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From: un032221@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Vader's Tie Fighter
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:11:38 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <Oct.26.10.50.41.1992.13185@andromeda.rutgers.edu>, dshaffer@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Donald A Shaffer) writes:
> 
>   ABout incorporating the bent wing designs into the TIE fighters-they did.
> didn't you notice the TIE interceptors in ROTJ.  They had the bent wing
> arrangement.  They were designed to be faster and more manuverable than the 
> fighter and incorporated the bent wings from Vaders' fighter.

	What I meant about incorporating it was as follows:
If the bent wing design was superior to the normal wing design, especially in
regards to the maneuverability of the ship, why didn't ALL Tie fighter get
modified with these advances?  It doesn't make sense to have a valid, and
proven breakthrough, and only use them on half your ships.