HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Alan Martin)
Subject: Re: KU Offense?
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 15:06:04 GMT

peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:

>In article <1992Sep25.151411.21927@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu> alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Alan Martin) writes:
>>
>>Congrats to Cal, they look like a tough team (how the *hell* did they
>>lose that badly to Purdue?) and they played a great game.

>	Maybe Purdue is better than Kansas?  No, we can't consider
>	that.  I'll just throw this out to the wolves - maybe Toledo
>	is a halfway decent team?  Let's follow their progress this
>	year.  They beat that Arkansas State team almost as badly
>	as Oklahoma did.

Yikes.  I didn't realize how my comment looked until you responded.  My
intent wasn't to say that Cal shouldn't have lost that badly to *Purdue*,
but that they shouldn't have lost that badly to anyone.  Their line play
looked very solid to me, and I don't think Washington will beat them 41-14.
As for Purdue, I haven't seen them at all, so I don't feel qualified to
comment.

You can believe me on this one, Randy.  I *never* assume Kansas is better
than *anybody*.

>	                  There's also the distinct possibility that
>	Purdue had a colossal letdown after the Cal game.  I tend to
>	subscribe to this notion, especially looking at what went
>	on the week of the Toledo game...

Uh, okay, and the short week Kansas had against a rested and pissed off
Cal team really hurt them.  Yeah, that's the ticket.  You'll never beat
me in the "make excuses for your team's loss" department.  I've had too
many years of continuous practice.



Al "I irked Mr. Net Congeniality; I must really be a jerk" Martin
alan@wraith.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: Could there be 3 nat'l champs?
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:19:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.201201.4468@b30.ingr.com> tad@tad.b30.ingr.com writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.183727.2633@b11.b11.ingr.com>, mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell) writes:
>|> 
>|>     Oh, I can see it.  Twice.  And one other thing; If an SEC team is
>                          ^^^^^^
>|> anything and 0 going into the bowl games, whoever they are, they
>|> will be 12-0, not 11-0.  We *have* a playoff system.
>
>Say what you mean, Guy!  If this is an Alabama woof, I want it identified as
>such for Oliver's Theorum :)  All kidding aside, this is shaping up to be 
>another classic Third Saturday in October with a very young Tennessee team 
>lining up against Alabama's best defense in the nation plus the Deuce.  Look
>for the team scoring the most points to win (You'll get no shameless boasts 
>from me!)

    Um, well, I meant Vandy and, um, LSU, yeah, that's it. 
Seriously, it looks quite likely that Bama and Tennessee will meet
twice this year.

--
Guy McConnell  guy@mspe5.b11.ingr.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: weiser@pogo.den.mmc.com (Matt Weiser)
Subject: Sorry, Gophers!
Organization: Martin Marietta WIS
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:53:16 GMT

I'm really sorry for all of those mighty Gopher fans who e-mailed me
hoping the CU Buffs would get crushed by Iowa last Saturday.  I guess
that the Buffs are not quite as pathetic as you gophers might think.
I'm not too sure how you could have been so wrong, since you do have
some experience with pathetic football teams! :->

Matt Weiser
weiser@pogo.den.mmc.com
Go Buffs!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: ongh@iastate.edu (NightOwl)
Subject: Re: The deciding game for the Rose bowl this Weekend
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 09:14:34 GMT

>In article <1992Sep30.090047.10263@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> tshannon@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon) writes:
>>
>>	The game Sat. with Michigan Vs. Iowa should decide who goes to
>>the Rose Bowl.  The last seven out of the eleven years the team that
>>has won that game has gone to smell the roses.
>>	Iowa vs. Michigan
>

You mean to actually say that if Iowa beats Michigan that Iowa will go
to the Rose Bowl this year? Dream on.......

-hank
ongh@iastate.edu
From: taoc@gradient.cis.upenn.edu (Chi-Chih Tao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Miami, Washington, Florida State
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:32:01 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

No need to wuch fashington.  Miami will be blown away by Fashington, which will
be in turn blown away by Florida State.

And you Huskies dead meat will be served with white wine by the Wolverines
on Jan. 1.

*****

My prediction this week:

Florida State 31
Miami (FL)    14
From: milius@proton.med.umn.edu (Bob Milius (BMEC))
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Rose Bowl (was Re: Wash vs. Neb afterthought)
Keywords: Huskies Huskers MNC
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:07:18 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In article <3100@voodoo.UUCP> stu@voodoo.boeing.com writes:
>In article <xbw-Rr@engin.umich.edu>, chyang@silvercornish.engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang) writes:
>|> 
>|> 	Anyway, here is the scenerio for the year.  Huskies, should they
>|> play with the intensity shown last night, should cruise through the rest of 
>|> the season undefeated.  This sets up the possible national champainship 
>|> game at the Rose Bowl vs. Michigan, who shouldn't have any problem with 
>|> anyone else. ---- provided that somebody beats or ties Miami.  
>|> 
>
>Well, one possibility I see is that both UW & UCLA go undefeated and UCLA goes
>to the Rose Bowl because the UW went last time.  So, the Huskies go to some 
>other bowl to play Miami, FSU, or (insert some other MNC contender here).
>Now, consider UCLA playing against an unbeaten Michigan (but they do have that
>tie game with ND).  The Huskies would get a shot at playing against an unbeaten
>team like (possibly) Miami (well, they've got a tough schedule, they could end
>the season with at least one loss) -OR- FSU....Well, you get the picture.
>The Huskies can definitely come out with a NC title all to themselves and not
>have to share it like they did last year.  The only problem with this scenario
>is that UCLA might get to play in the Rose Bowl and keep the Huskies from the
>possibility of the only ROSE BOWL THREE-PEAT IN HISTORY!!!  Bummer, dudes!
>-- 

Remember, if UCLA goes undefeated and goes to the Rose Bowl, there's a
chance they might win it and end the season undefeated (though I
cringe at the thought). ANY team that ends the season unbeaten and 
untied has a reasonable claim to the MNC (that's why it's Mythical). 
There are more than a few scenarios that would result in a MNC for 
somebody besides Washington, FSU, or Miami. There's also 
Tennesse/Alabama and Penn State to consider... and depending on a few 
upsets in the bowl games and regular season which usually happens
(eg Syracuse/Notre Dame vs Florida last year), who knows, maybe 
even Texas A&M or Boston College can end up undefeated and untied!

-bob
a Michigan fan, waiting for it all to sort itself out
-- 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
Robert P. Milius, Ph.D.                           milius@lenti.med.umn.edu
Box 107 UMHC                                      (612) 626-2614
Biomedical Engineering Center                     (612) 625-1121 (fax)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: fran@cs.washington.edu (Tak Ming Pang)
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Organization: Computer Science & Engineering Dept., Univ. of Washington, Seattle
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 03:31:56 GMT

>I can't wait to hear all the excuses from those arrogant Miami fans.
First they schedule Florida A&M and then they squesk by Arizona at home.
There's no way Miami even deserves to be in the top 5, much less #1.

Don't worry, they will lose and be out of top five next sunday.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: SMU (was: Re: Scripps Howard Heisman poll)
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 17:40:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.200856.1547@u.washington.edu> tannerg@milton.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner) writes:
-->Here's the latest (9/23) Scripps Howard Heisman poll, a national poll
-->of Heisman voters.  I got it from our local paper here in Tallahassee:
-->
-->Marshall Faulk, San Diego State   45 points
-->Glyn Milburn, Stanford            17
-->Charlie Ward, Florida State       16
-->Gino Torretta, Miami (Fla)        14
-->Shane Matthews, Florida           13
-->Rick Mirer, Notre Dame             9
-->Garrison Hearst, Georgia           8
-->Kordell Stewart, Colorado          7
--
--Where is Dan Freiburger of SMU?  

When he wasn't getting sacked, Freiburger did a pretty damn good job in
leading SMU on Saturday.  I picked TCU to win, but I was rooting for SMU
while watching the game.

As former Pony Express member Craig James noted on ESPN, this game probably 
did a lot for the SMU program and for keeping the SWC together.  If SMU was 
to drop out of the SWC and Div I (as they are considering), the entire 
conference may be history...A&M and UTexas would use that as incintive 
to bolt.

SMU is one field goal away from being 4-0. 

- goober (craig james was downright giddy in that espn booth) smith
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: boisseau@chpc.utexas.edu (John R. Boisseau (Jay))
Subject: Re: Virginia Football 
Keywords: Not Yet... 
Organization: The University of Texas System - CHPC
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 14:18:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.052613.26336@ncsu.edu> delaw@eos.ncsu.edu (DOUGLAS EDWARD LAW ) writes:
>  I agree that the UVA posters are getting a little giddy.
>I didn't see the game, but it seems that the Cavs put a real hurting
>on Tech. I wonder if they ran up the score to pad their numbers?

My friend, who was at the game, said he didn't think so. He said it
was more of case of everything going right for UVa, and wrong for Tech.
(On three consecutive punts, for GT, the results were 5 yards, blocked,
and 12 yards.)

>I know they did against Navy. I mean, was it neccessary for Goodman
>to throw *5* TD passes to beat the hapless Middies? I don't think so.

No, they didn't. If you had seen Goodman in the first (previous) game
against MD, you would have agreed he needed all the snaps and pass attempts
he could get. This is his first year (and only) year to start (he started
two games last year when Blundin was injured), and he looked _very_ raw
against MD. Welsh tried very hard in the second half of that game NOT to
run up the score... it's just hard to do. (Hasn't _everyone_ spanked
Navy pretty badly? I know they got spanked last week.) Remember: Navy
was George's previous coaching job. He has strong feelings for Navy, and
would not want to embarass the school.

Jay


-- 

*********************************
  John R. Boisseau ("Jay")       
  Department of Astronomy        
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler)
Subject: Re: OSU Falls to Wisconsin!!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:00:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.144130.13698@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
>Patrick W Lauson writes:
>
>>Actually, if OSU wins the rest of their games up to Michigan, then the game
>>will indeed be for the Roses.  If OSU doesn't win all their games up to
>>Michigan, its unlikely they will be 2nd in the Big 10...
>
>I was thinking that too, but then I looked at the schedule.  Wisconsin does not
>play Michigan this year.  That means that if Barry Alvarez can keep the 
>emotions running high in Madison we may see the Badgers  in Pasadena on NYD!  
>Maybe not, but Wisconsin is in a very strong position to go bowling.

	Why not send them to Pasadena?  Hell, they just played the Huskies
	much tougher in Seattle than Michigan ever does in Pasadena!

	Wisconsin has a defensive guru (Alvarez) as a head coach, and a
	couple of Mike White's Illinois coaching refugees on offense
	(Remember White? - Big cheater, but an offensive genius and Bill
	Walsh disciple).  If he keeps it clean up there (this could be a
	big if), and with that fandom there ready to burst, Wisconsin could
	become a power.  Those 72,000 sounded louder than any 104,000
	or 90,000 I've ever heard in Ann Arbor or Columbus, respectively...

-- 
-------------------------------
| Randy Peppler               |
| Illinois State Water Survey |
| peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu    |
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: tbreeden@afit.af.mil (Thomas A. Breeden)
Subject: Gators vs MSU
Originator: tbreeden@wc1
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:49:52 GMT

What's the pregame scoop on the Gators at MSU
game on ESPN tonight?

Is Errict Rhett ready to play?

What are the key matchups?

Is Shane completely out of the heisman race?

Does MSU use an all walk-on kickoff team like
Texas A&M did under JS?

Can I possibly consume 12 Miller Lites in
three hours?


Need news from somebody down south.

Andy

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Pat Sullivan (was Re: TCU, eyes Cotton)
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 02:46:12 GMT

In article <16871EE70.SSQLCW@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu>, SSQLCW@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu writes:

> Can anyone who follows T.C.U. football closely give me an assessment
> of Pat Sullivan's coaching. Since he will one day return to Auburn
> after Pat Dye retires, I would like to know what we can expect.

> Cameron Wesson (War-Eagle!!)

I don't know Cameron, if Pat Sullivan doesn't start winning some games soon, 
he won't be considered for the Head Coaching position at Auburn when Pat Dye
retires.  Of course, his career at TCU, and the season, is young...

-- 
David Swanger,   Auburn University, Alabama,   swanger@ducvax.auburn.edu 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pol30546@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Peder Larsen)
Subject: Stanford - Notre Dame
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 20:57:02 GMT


Notre Dame is being crushed by 17 points late in the fourth ... YES!!!

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee)
Subject: Re: Mascots (UNC,VT)/Pay to see a game?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 22:04:41 GMT

chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill) writes:
>That reminds me. Is there a school in the country where the smell of bourbon
>is stronger outside of the stadium on game day than Virginia?  I got drunk
>walking by the stadium one Saturday morning.  I also got physically ill
>from the abundance of long, beige shorts, Ralph Lauren shirts, and orange
>and blue ties.

Come to Colorado, where the student section is a 17,000 seat mosh pit.
It smells like a strange combination of Absolut, Coors Light, and sour mash,
with a slight hint of pot. No wonder we have such a bad rep.

>Finally, on a serious note, how many of y'all (students, that is) actually
>pay for football seating?   Entrance for UNC students is free at Kenan
>stadium.  I believe the same holds true for State, Virginia, and Duke.

For us it's $10 for all Football and free for most other sports. 
Including basketball, where students get front row seats to most games. Dang
nice, though hotter than July on the floor.




>Curtis Hill
>star3!walt!chill@mcnc.org


-- 
Dylan Wilbanks, Classics major, AND NOW Environmental Conservation!
Hobbes:"Why do we always play war and not peace?"|Currently at:
Calvin:"Too few role models."                    |Box 1143
Ren-n-Stimpy in '92! Vote for a real cartoon!    |Boulder, CO 80306
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera)
Subject: Re: ACC This Week: Predictions and Such
Organization: Rice University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:40:05 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.204532.28867@ncsu.edu> jvbutera@grad09.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:

>As far as Clemson, it's a question of who's more powerful, IPTAY or 
>the Clemson Administration.  IPTAY'ed replace any non 8-3 or better 
>coach in a heartbeat, whereas I think the administration wants Hatfield

And all of us ACCers know what IPTAY "really " stands for :)

(I dare the uninformed to take a guess ...)

>-- 
>Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.
>Math Graduate Student
>N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
>jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls


-- 
Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu
"The 'wall of separation of church and state' is a metaphor based on bad
 history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging.  It should
 be frankly and explicity abandoned." - Chief Justice William Rehnquist
From: C31801AG@WUVMD (Bapi Gupta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Spreads
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:48:42 GMT
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD


>In article <16870B581.JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com>, JHARTLEY@cmsa.gmr.com says:
>
>I'd appreciate seeing the spreads on the following games if anyone has them:
>
>Florida State @ Miami A&M
Miami by 3

>Southern California @ Washington
UW by 14

You can check my Gupta Power Rating Predictions post for all the Monday
morning USA Today spreads.

Bapi
From: kk18@prism.gatech.EDU (Kelly Kenion)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ACC Preview
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:35:13 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In <BvE2sB.8Cv@news.larc.nasa.gov> cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell) writes:


>I'm 19-2 in picking winners after 9/26/92 games. Remind me to pick
>Clemson on October 10. :-) (Guess where my two errors were) 


I KNOW that one pick was the Tech-Clemson game and I'll venture a guess at the
other:  how 'bout the Florida State-Clemson game?





-- 
Kenion, Kelly W.                             GO JACKETS!!!!!!!!!
Georgia Institute of Technology           
Atlanta Georgia, 30332           
Internet: kk18@prism.gatech.edu
From: tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: r.s.f.c Netiquitte (was Re: Division 3 Game of the Year
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:02:27 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle


}} In article <1992Oct5.205825.22192@en.ecn.purdue.edu> lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson) writes:
}} 
}} P.S.  Somebody help me out here.  If somebody makes a mistake on the net, is 
}} it customary to yell at them, cut them down, and try to make them feel
}} like total idiots?  I hope y'all aren't like that in real life....
}} How about just politely correcting somebody?

What, are you new here or something?        @|)

GT
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: chyang@engin.umich.edu (Chung Hsiung Yang)
Subject: Re: wuck fashington!
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 20:56:40 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa
Keywords: eight men on the line

In article <1992Oct1.034041.18103@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> kdelgado@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Kevin Delgado) writes:
>Um, if you are implying that washington somehow started the eight man front,
>forget it. T
	
	Prove it!  

	I have not seen or heard about a team that blitzs on every down.
and I certainly have not seen a team from Florida or anywhere else that
employs that scheme before 1990.  As far as coaches are concerned, the
idea was absolutely ludicrus, until Washington proved that it works two
years ago.  Now several Pac-10 teams uses the scheme and it is catching
on in more and more schools every day.  

- C. H. Yang

hat scheme has been around for years. It's good if you are able
>to consistently get to the qb, _AND_ if you have 3 defensive backs that can
>keep up with all the recievers (4 in the one back, occasionally 5 here at FSU)
>
>Kevin
>

>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Maimi's latest cheer..."Oh no, wide right"...will Bowden ever learn?
>
>
>
>


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: paladin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jason Gische)
Subject: Re: Stanford banned again
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 20:07:32 GMT

In article <randall.717701959@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>The Stanford Band was banned again ... this time by their
>own athletic department.  They were going to do an "unauthorized
>biography" of their new university president last Saturday, but their
>althetic department forced them to change the show.  The LSJUMB was
>also banned from Disneyland earlier this year. 
>
>At least they were stopped before embarassing themselves again.
>The previous posting's mention of the spotted owl show in Oregon
>reminded me of what happens when the LSJUMB is left to their
>own devices.
>
>
>-- 
>
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software, Inc. 
>Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall


I must reply to this.
For the past year or two, the Athletic Department has required that the
Stanford Band preview their planned field show before performing it so
that the AD may censor it.  Personally, I find the idea repugnant.

As for "embarrassing themselves," the Band is refreshingly alive.  They
spare no one from ridicule.  If people weren't so goddam sensitive it
wouldn't be a problem.  This just illustrates the inability of people in
our society to laugh at themselves.
As for the Disneyyland episode, a friend described what happened.  The Band
had been given two-day passes to Disneyland (by Disneyland) during the 
Pigskin Classic week.  The Band had been told by the AD that they were going to
perform at Disneyland.  The day they were expecting to perform they were notified that Disney hadn't been told of their plans
and that they could not play.  So the band decided to go to Disney, using
their free passes, to go on the rides.  They arrived there in their bus,
as sober as the band has ever been in a group, without instruments, and
they were told that they could not enter that evening because security had
been anonymously tipped that they were coming to disturb the A&M rally.
So they were escorted off the grounds by police.  They were actually innocen
this time.

Jason Gische
Crush the Catholics
From: v262xxve@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: ND & polls
Date: 2 Oct 92 16:44:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct1.173248.4580@den.mmc.com>, kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes...
#Sorry my sweeping generalization impugned Mr. Pitts, but here's my lame
#excuse: I didn't mean 1943 (or whatever) by "the season" :-)

Oh, right, right, Kevin.  I would have come back with some shameless Army 
woof on the '44 season.  Or were you referring to the 1966 season?  Steve 
Spurrier lost that year, too (to the Hurricanes, of course) :-).  1981?
Oh, no, now I see, you mean 1980!  You are right, I probably would never 
have praised ND that year.  Go Dawgs.

___

Timothy C. Pitts             
Canada US Trade Center
Department of Geography
University at Buffalo        
V262XXVE@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college