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From: dschmidt@palladin.corp.sgi.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Colorado pounds Mizzou 6-0
Date: 9 Oct 92 18:31:33 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Oct9.135410.10146@spdc.ti.com>,
dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik) writes:
|> Buffaloes, ease up!  You didn't *have* to run it up on Mizzou like
|> that
|> did you?  I mean, like, did you really need to kick that second field
|> |> goal?  6-zip is a bit much isn't it?  BTW - how can you get so
|> many
|> yards and not get a TD?  I watched the whole game and can't figure
|> it
|> out.  Pretty tough D, though.
|> 


I saw the game too and was completely disgusted and dismayed; a normal
experience for Buff fans.  This weather was no worse than it was in
Nebraska a few years back when we pounded the Huskers in the fourth
quarter.  The inability of any Buff to reach the endzone with the
football against one of the worst teams in college football does not
bode well for CU's Orange Bowl hopes.  

But, at least CU won.  At least CU is not going to get ripped a new one
by Texas.

I'd rather be dead later than a sooner.
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From: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett)
Subject: Re: #1 Washington vs #2 Penn State
Reply-To: jfawcett@encore.com (Jason "Raise Cane" Fawcett)
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 21:24:58 GMT

News-Software: NN 6.4.16

In <92280.000339KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> Kurt Ludwick <KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

| In article <92279.183301RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu>, <RAP115@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
| 
| >Penn State now must face No. 2 Miami, No. 22 Boston College, No. 25 West
| >Virginia (all undefeated teams) and No. 14 Notre Dame........the easiest
| >battle will be against Miami 'cause it's at home...PENN STATE IS A
| >MUCH DIFFERENT TEAM IN THE HAPPY VALLEY!!!!!!...The 3 road games will be
| >serious tests.                                      -Snof
| 
| Being in Happy Valley has nothing to do with it.  They are a great team when
| the BLUE BAND is with them, and simply good without it.  I'm worried about
| Notre Dame, just like I was about the (Blue Band-less) games at Miami and
| USC last year.



   HAPPY VALLEY didn't help. The Blue Band didn't help.

   Nothing beats DA CANES.

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  1992 National Championship, here we come again.   Catch us if you can.


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From: helper@english.as.ua.edu (ECL LAB ASSISTANTS)
Subject: influence of FSU
Organization: Department of English, The University of Alabama
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:38:43 GMT


It's interesting, in reading this news group, how some sports fans will 
transcend their own alliegances and loyalties in appreciation of great 
coaches and players throughout the country.  Other fans, on the other hand,
(UMiami comes to mind) are sure--through some form of desperate want-to-be
the-bully arrogance--that only their own team has merit, style, or ability.

This is fresh on my mind due to some of the slander I've seen on here 
regarding coaches Joe Paterno and Bobby Bowden.  I don't really see how 
ANYONE can argue with what these two men have done; Paterno has more wins
than any other active coach.  Bowden's the second winningnest of all time
(%-wise) and has one of the best road records of any coach.  Each schedules
brutally hard schedules.  (FSU's 3 non-conference opponents next year are
Notre Dame, Florida, and Miami).  Finally, each coach has had this success
and managed to maintain their integrity and to stay within the rules at the 
same time, which we all know has eluded several teams and coaches at top
programs throughout the country.

	Finally, a football quiz:
	Question: what do Bobby Bowden, Don James, Bill Parcells and Joe
	Gibbs all have in common?

	Answer: They all coached under the legendary Bill Peterson at FSU
	in the mid-late sixties.

	Adios.

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From: paullu@microsoft.com (Paul Lukinich)
Subject: Re: The Bowl Coalition fails yet again
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:35:56 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corp.
Distribution: usa

Excuse me? Come from behind OUR fence? Why don't you people down south tell your teams
to get off their pansy asses and go to a real bowl, not

a) Play AT HOME against THE MOST OVERRATED football program in history, or
b) Play in a bowl which features the winner of THE MOST OVERRATED CONFERENCE
   in history.

In case your hiding behind your own arrogance, let me tell everyone that I'm talking
about Miami playing Nebraska in the Orange Bowl and Florida St playing Texas A&M of the Stupid
Wimp Conference. I am usually happy to just sit back and read other people's opinions, just to get a feel
for what the rest of the country is thinking, but give me a break. If anyone out there
thinks that the bowl coalition is anything other than a plot by the other bowl committees,
plus, of course, Notre Dame, they're kidding themselves. This is the best way for these people
to try to appease the public, which wants a playoff, and line their pockets in the process. I 
think it's great that (hopefully) the bowl coalition will be observers as the National Championship
is decided in the Rose Bowl, while Miami plays Nebraska AT HOME and Florida St plays some second rate
team from the SECondary conference.
From: mmitchel@msd.gatech.edu (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Miami's whining
Date: 16 Oct 92 12:24:52 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

aholdern@zeus.calpoly.edu (Andrejs Abolins Holderness) wrote:
}
}So until they get a conference with tough opponents ...

wm1o+@andrew.cmu.edu (William Karamo Motley) wrote:
}
}What's your point?  Miami's in the Big East. 

Yes, but the gentleman said until they get a conference WITH
TOUGH OPPONENTS, not just a conference.  ;-)

(How many point does that cost me in the Exciting Big East Picking
 Contest, Bob?)

--
Mark A. Mitchell      Georgia Tech      mark.mitchell@matd.gatech.edu

"A squid eating dough in a polyethylene bag is fast and bulbous.  Got me?"
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: Pac10 vs. ACC!!!
Originator: delarocq@c00075-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 22:14:16 GMT



 Pac10 has one contender-- the ACC!!!!!


NC State :)) (too bad it wasn't UVA) over #10 Iowa,& Texas Tech (17-19 T A&M!!)
Florida State :) in a close loss at Miami :( (Sawyer.. Doo Bart!@#@!)
Virginia :( 
Clemson :)
Georgia Tech :)

The ACC has so many good teams, that when all the conference games
are removed, you have to give the ACC a break-- Navy, App State, etc.

North Carolina defies the ACC rule. They put a whole bunch of easy teams on
their schedule, and expect to get a bowl bid! (snicker!)
Navy?
Army?
Furman?
Once they beat their first ACC team (Wake, who was 1-8(?)), they have lost
to N.C. State, and FSU. They get Virginia, Clemson, and GT next!! :)

Anyway, what used to be a good football joke conference is now the best in the
U.S. Proven U.S.A. Today figures!!!!!!! (17-4 vs. non-conference)
-- 
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From: dpassage@soda.berkeley.edu (David G. Paschich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: rule changes?? fumbles and kickoffs
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:20:19
Organization: Organization?  Who cares?  You just gotta say "Go Bears!"
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In-reply-to: joconnor@evax10.eng.fsu.edu's message of 13 OCT 92 11:34:18    

In article <1992Oct13.155829.21734@mailer.cc.fsu.edu>, 
	joconnor@evax10.eng.fsu.edu (JAMES P O) writes:

   Some rules I like to see changed are:

   -ground cannot cause a fumble. 
       I say if ya can't hang on to the ball as ye're punished to the 
   ground, TUFF NOOGIES, HOLD ON TIGHTER! plus it would end speculation 
   on whether a fumble occur before or after he hit the ground, which is 
   seen often.

The rule isn't that the ground can't cause a fumble; the rule is that
when you hit the ground you're down, and if you're down you can't
fumble.  And besides, we don't need to give defenses more
encouragement to body-slam offensive players into the increasingly
prevalent fuzzy green concrete in hopes that the ball will pop loose.

   -Kickoffs
       If the Kicker can kick the ball thru the uprights of the recieving 
   team, the kicking team shall be awarded two points. The ball will be 
   placed at the receiving team's 20 yrd line and possesion belongs to 
   the receiving team!             this rule would make those penalty 
   yards on a scoring play which are assessed (sp?) on the following 
   kickoff, more interesting. It would also be fustrating for coaches in 
   a tight game. If was 17-16 with 'bout one minute of so to go, should 
   the coach with 16 risk the longshot for two or risk for another 
   possesion with on onside kick and try for three later! ummmmm

Dumb, dumb, dumb.  Increases randomness, not skill.  Besides, it
sounds like something ArenaBall would do.

David Paschich
From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: gators in the poll: why?
Date: 11 Oct 92 18:01:58 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA


>>much as it pains me to admit it, the team sucks:
>>UF shouldn't even be ranked in the top 250.
>>
>>me

>David, the Woof Gods will never believe this one.  If you're trying to anti-
>woof, you'll have to make it more believable than saying that the Gators are
>no better than a Division II team.  Try something like :
>
>	"much as it pains me to admit it, the team sucks:
>	 UF isn't even as good as [insert forthcoming opponent here]"
>
>tannerg@carson.u.washington.edu (Glenn Tanner)

i guess i'm just doomed to wander through newsgroups as neither a woofer
nor an anti-woofer, then.  i posted after the Tennessee and MSU "games"
and the team was performing at a truly pathetic level: they really did look
as if they deserved a #251 ranking.  but now, hooray! they've since beaten
LSU, as if that meant anything.  i look forward to reading some good
science-fiction over the holidays, since i won't have to waste my time
watching the gators choking to death at any bowl.  :-(

of course, since i get the washington post, i have no idea how the LSU game
actually went . . . with the post, you celebrate long and hard if you even
get the score printed.  double :-(

College Football:  where one loss will fuck up the entire season.  infinite :-(

ok
dpm (class of '84)
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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Division III poll (after Octber 10, 1992)
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:31:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: magnus.CMM.0.90.4.719004713.pfleming
Organization: The Ohio State University

East:
 1) Ithaca (NY) (5-0)
 2) Rowan (NJ) (5-0)
 3) Buffalo State (NY) (4-0)
 4) William Patterson (NJ) (5-0)
 5) Rochester (NY) (5-0)
 6) Worcester Polytechnic (Mass) (4-1)

North:
 1) Dayton (Ohio) (5-0)
 2) Mount Union (Ohio) (5-0)
 3) (tie) Illinios Wesleyan (4-0)
    (tie) Ohio Wesleyan (5-0)
 5) Defiance (Ohio) (5-0)
 6) Aurora (Ill) (5-0)

South:
 1) Washington & Jefferson (Pa) (5-0)
 2) Lycoming (Pa) (4-0)
 3) Dickenson (Pa) (5-0)
 4) Emory & Henry (Va) (6-0)
 5) Susquehanna (Pa) (5-0)
 6) Sewanee (Tenn) (4-0)

West:
 1) St. John's (Minn) (5-0)
 2) Central (Iowa) (5-0)
 3) Wisconsin-LaCrosse (4-0)
 4) Carleton (Minn) (5-0)
 5) Simpson (Iowa) (4-0-1)
 6) Wisconsin-Whitewater (5-0)

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From: yvonne@well.sf.ca.us (Yvonne Lee)
Subject: Re: Need words to Stanford fight song
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 01:36:52 GMT

In <1992Oct13.222358.23006@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM> bartlett@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM (Terry Bartlett) writes:

>In article <1992Oct13.202919.18226@a.cs.okstate.edu> hip@a.cs.okstate.edu (HUFFMAN BRADLEY SP) writes:
>>Could someone quickly mail me the words to the Stanford fight song.
>>Thanks in advance.
>>
>>Brad

>Which Stanford fight song?  When I was there they had three songs that
>were used a lot, but I wouldn't call any one of them a true "fight"
>song.  The closest one to that would probably "All Right Now".  I don't
>think "Come Join the Band" or "Hail Stanford Hail" count.  

>Care to voice an opinion on this, Yvonne?
Well, since you asked, I guess the Stanford fight song is All Right Now,
since they play it after scores and after victories,  but
the only words I can ever remember singing are the "Woo" after the part that
goes da-daa-da-da.

:)

What's a fight song? What is marching?


>Terry Bartlett			   bartlett@rmtc.Central.Sun.COM
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From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Thrash-factors (was Re: AP Top 25)
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:30:24 GMT
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Oct13.100717.24368@colorado.edu>, manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu) writes:
> In article <1992Oct13.074426.7909@leland.Stanford.EDU> gsroka@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Sroka) writes:
> >
> >For all those who seem to think Miami blew out Nebraska in the Orange Bowl
> >last year: I distinctly remember the score being 15-7 with under 3 min. to
> >go in the fourth. Miami scored a late td to put the game away 22-7.
> 
> Another PAC-10 weenie strikes!!!
> 
> Last year in OB, Miami thrashed Nebraska 22-0. I don't think Nebraska was EVER
> in a position to score ANY point in that game. It was definitely the most
> one-sided bowl game last year...
> 
> If I remember correctly, Nebraska couldn't get to the Miami side in the
> first half, let alone score! ( They had 1 first down or something in
> the whole first half! )
> 
> Remember, the same Nebraska team scored 21 points against the mighty huskies
> when they played earlier in the season... Nebraska was leading till sometime
> in 4th quarter when U-dub pulled away.
> 
> That game wasn't a blowout for sure...

Define blowout. 

Margin of victory? ease of win? yards gained/allowed?
pts scored/allowed? home/road?.. what? Everybody chooses his/her criterion
conveniently. I choose mine. I use the trash-factor (tm) #)

Washington piled up 600 odd yards and ~35 points *in* Nebraska. 
That was quite a offensive-trashing (tm). 

Miami, on the other hand, pitched a shutout, and scored only 22,
at home, That was a defensive-thrashing (tm). 

The difference, Miami was at home, while Washington did it on the
road. That, to me, was quite an important distinction. But then, 
I am part of the WCMB. 

Bottom line: Nebraska got thrashed. There wasn't a 1-game Miami-Wash
playoff to decide #1. We get plenty of fodder to argue about on
r.s.f.c.




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From: mjk@icf.hrb.com (Michael J. Kelley)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: PSU game, smoke grenade, arrest made
Date: 16 Oct 92 06:44:25 EST
Organization: HRB Systems, Inc.

For those people who who remember seeing a smoke grenade going off in the
stands during the PSU/Miami game. The following came out in today's paper:


A 24 year old student has been cherged with felony charges of risking a
catastrophe and possession of an explosive or incendiary device. He was also
charged with 10 counts of each recklessly endangering another person and simple
assault. He was placed in prison on $25,000 cash bail.-- 

The student thought it would be a "neat stunt" since the game was on national
television. I wonder what he thinks now??? 
                                                              Mike Kelley
                                                              HRB Systems
                                                              St. College, Pa.

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From: beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jeff Beckham)
Subject: Re: Best marching band
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 16:46:19 GMT

cockrel@shab06.larc.nasa.gov (Charlie Cockrell) writes:
>I think you misunderstood my post. We (UVa) ridiculed *your* band.
>We *like* the Pep Band.

Why were you ridiculing our band?  It was a power show that include style, 
class, precision, accuracy, and energy... something that the fans have
OBVIOUSLY _*NEVER*_ seen come from the UVulA marching band... since you guys
could NEVER achieve it.  If I recall it correctly, we didn't even get ridiculed
either.  I remember your show.  What's so cool about getting in a circle and 
doing a follow the leader and calling it the world's first CD on a football
field... not _THAT'S_ boring...


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								  Jeff Beckham
						      beckham@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
 			 	      			       Marching Illini 
                                    University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
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Subject: Re: Big8 Preview(10-5-92)
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Wed,  7 Oct 1992 12:18:38 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


News about OSU:
>                                               All I have been
> able to dig up is that Jones made a firm decision to go with
> Porter and stuck by it.
>      On another topic Porter, Milner, and Culver will not be
> playing this Saturday against Nebraska.  It seems as though
> some of Porters High School friends ended in the Hotel rooms
> of the afore mentioned gentleman after curfew on Friday night
> before the TCU game.  Of course these High School chums were
> female.  This being strictly against team rules the three will
> be unavailable against Neb.

This should make OSU even more impotent offensively, then they
already are.
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From: CBARNES@tamvm1.tamu.edu (Chris Barnes)
Subject: Re: r.s.f.c. 7th weekly poll results
Organization: Texas A&M University
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 18:16:14 GMT

In article <92288.182851C31801AG@wuvmd.wustl.edu>
   Bapi Gupta <C31801AG@WUVMD> writes:
 
>
>Here are the results of this week's poll.
>
 
Could you also include information about the teams in the top 25 that
didn't receive a vote from someone.  (ie.  if someone where, for
example trying to really lower Miami's score, they would leave them
off completely).  I'm not saying this happens with any frequency, but
it would be nice to see when it does.
 
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From: tad@tad.b30.ingr.com (tad w stephens)
Subject: Re: AP Top 25 (Was Re: Miami Can Not Be Denied!!!)
Reply-To: tad@tad.b30.ingr.com
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 19:11:37 GMT

In article <ASH.92Oct15082928@ulysses.mr.ams.com>, ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:

|> 
|> But they won't say as much.  Nothing stops woofing like a good loss.
|> Witness the lack of woofing by TOSU and Tennessee fans lately...
|> 


We could rant and rave that despite losing the game, our team destroyed the 
other team statistically.  We could blame the officiating or the perfect 
weather conditions (the sun was in his eyes!).  We could whine since we lost
early in the season the game doesn't matter and that we really are the 
better team.  There are plenty of examples on the net in which a good loss 
only heightens the woofing.  Just because the issue is settled on the field 
doesn't mean it has to be settled on the net.


|> Here's to Miami and Washington, ahead of Michigan in the polls, but
|> behind Michigan in talent.  
|> Go Blue!


Tad "or that we have more talent!" Stephens
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From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: For those interested: Let's just make our own I-AA rankings
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 09:05:21 GMT

Here lately it seems like a lot of people have been pissin' and moanin' about
the I-AA top 20 (I even complained about it at one point--four senile athletic 
directors are making a mess out of the poll).

There have also been some postings of some I-AA fans' picks for tops in the
division.

So--if you would like, just send me your picks for the top ten teams via email
and I will compile them before Saturday.

I want to do a top ten because I figure a lot of people aren't familiar enough
with I-AA to make a top 20.  Also, this will be easier for me to compile.

For a deadline, let's say Thursday at noon.

PDunn
pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
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