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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Packer news: Keith Millard
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  6 OCT 92 15:13:38    

In article <wytten.718395824@deci>, wytten@deci.cs.umn.edu (Dale Wyttenbach) writes...

>I don't think a team would have to be "desparate" to pick up
>Keith Millard.  As a Vikings fan, Millard being with the Packers scares
>me at least as much as Browner being with the Bucs.
> 
>Regarding the "attitude problem": Look at the Vikings and Cris Carter.
>Cris was released by Buddy Ryan and the Eagles because of an "attitude
>problem" and now he's the Vikings leading receiver over the last year
>and a half.
> 
>It will be interesting to see how Millard does at Green Bay.  I suspect
>that even if he regains his old form he won't be as effective as he
>was when he lined up next to Chris Doleman.  It seems that speed-oriented
>pass rushers are simply double teamed all day unless that's impossible
>because there's another outstanding pass rusher in the defense.

Like NT Danny Noonan?  :-)

But seriously, if Millard does regain his old form good things could 
happen for the Packers defense.  Their main defensive problem so far 
is the lack of pass rush.  And it's been pitiful.  The Packers have 
something line 9-10 sacks and a high percentage of those were coverage 
sacks.  (The secondary has been great.)

When Millard was def. player of the year he was in Minns 4-3 defense.  
The Packers play a 3-4 so there's no telling what he'll do here.  But 
the Pack has a couple of pretty good pass rushing LBs so maybe with 
the addition of Millard and Noonan the DL can generate some pass rush 
and the Pack could be more competative.

Millard was double teamed much of the time by Atlanta last Sunday.  I 
know he made a tackle behind the line of scrimmage on a running play.  
He had no sacks but he did have 2 passes batted down.
From: reille85@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: <None>
Date: 5 Oct 92 19:09:05 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:01:15 EDT
From: <JDA108@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: EAGLES WILL GO 16-0 IF ANYONE DOES
Distribution: usa

In article <1992Sep30.191643.12032@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>,
aperkins@lonestar.utsa.edu (Aaron B. Perkins) says:
>
>THE EAGLES ARE THE BEST TEAM IN THE NFL BY FAR AND WILL GO 16-0 AND WIN THE
>SUPERBOWL AND THE SCORE MON WILL BE AS FOLLOWS:
>
>                                EAGLES 42
>                                COWPUSSIES 3
>

Regardless of my personal desires to see the Eagles do well (finally),
a) It is beyond my wildest comprehension they will beat the cowboys 42-3,
   not to mention:
b) It is an absolute impossibility that the Eagles and Cowboys will face
   each other in this years super-bowl.

>
>
>BARKLEY,JULIUS,CUNNINGHAM,BARNETT,BOL.......NOW THOSE ARE SOME BAD ASS DUDES

Barkely..... Yes.
Dr. J....... Undeniably.
Randall..... Yes.
Barnett..... Ummm, well, uhh, you see, ummm... maybe.
BOL?         You gotta be outta your mind!

-Jeff
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From: mccray@crchh496.BNR.CA (Dale McCray)
Subject: Re: NINERS WIN!!
Reply-To: mccray@crchh496.BNR.CA (Dale McCray)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Fri, 02 Oct 1992 08:02:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.081620.12045@PacBell.COM>, jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM
(John P. Gloria) writes:
|>
|>I'll bet you don't have the HUEVOS to call me a fairy-whiner to
|>my face, whereas I have what it takes to refer to you as a PUTO or 
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                            
What it takes? Lemme take a wild guess. Is it being able to look at
yourself in the mirror and say "I may be an insufferable, obnoxious
jerk, but by golly, I like myself."  Isn't that special?
From: lmcmasc@noah.ericsson.se (Mauro Schena)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Cowboys vs Eagles
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:51:24 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Communications Inc. Montreal, Canada
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson in North America.
              The opinions expressed are strictly those of the user and
              not necessarily those of Ericsson.

I'm sick and tired of reading posts on how the Eagles are going to 
pound the Cowboys. This off-season everybody was saying how the
Cowboys couldn't sneak away with victories because other teams
would play them hard. Well what do you know the Cowboys are 3-0.
Oh shit! Jimmy Johnson has already sneaked away with 3 victories.

Well let`s put it into perspective. The Eagles have a much better
defense than the Cowboys. The specialty teams, the edge has got 
to go to the Cowboys. The Cowboys specialty teams have already 
scored 14 points. The Cowboys match evenly if not better than
the Eagles. The Cowboys have alot more talent than the Eagles
at the skill positions. 

Notes:
Emmit Smith will have a big game!
Alvin Harper will catch at least 1 TD!
Troy Aikman will play good enough to WIN!

Prediction:
Cowboys - 27
Eagles  - 23

I guess the Eagles don't cover the 6 point spread?


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From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: Redskins-Cardinals and Scores ...
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:33:02 GMT


I am bound to my terminal during the Redskins game, but not so out of
touch in that I have radio coverage here.

If there is anyone interested in the Redskins game, E-MAIL ME DIRECTLY!!
I'll mail periodic updates ...


Bob - current score: Skins 14-0    :-)

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From: smith@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (damon smith 283-4050)
Subject: Re: What are Good Sportscasters Made of?
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 13:10:36 GMT

>Color-Men:
>Name                  Coaching        Playing           Booth
>                      (team/years)   (team/years)       (network/years)
>1. John Madden         OAK-RAD/10       ????		   CBS/12
>2. Merlin Olsen           ????          LA-RAMS           CBS/??
>3. Bill Parcells       NY-GNT/??        ???               NBC/2
>4. Joe Theisman	                 DC-RED/??         ESPN/?
>5. Dan Dierdorf                         STL-CARD/??       ABC/??
>6. Frank Gifford                        NY-GNT/??         ABC/??
>7. Randy Cross                          SF-49/??          CBS/3


>"White" Men
>1. Pat Summerall                        NY-GNT/??          CBS/??
>2. Irv Cross                            PHIL-EAGLES        CBS/??
>3. Marv Albert                                             NBC/??
>4. Dan Fouts                            SD-CHARGERS        NBC/??
>5. Vern Lundquist                                          CBS/??
>6. Al Michaels                                             ABC/??



Just filling in a few blanks.  Missing is Terry Bradshaw (PITT-STEELERS), 
although he is on NFL TODAY instead of the broadcast booth.

Likewise for Ahmad Rashad (MINN-VIKINGS) at NBC.
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (John P. Gloria)
Subject: Re: Dallas was beaten by bad luck, not the eagles!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 00:14:06 GMT

In article <6OCT199216262371@rigel.tamu.edu> c1h3384@rigel.tamu.edu  writes:
>
>Look at last night's game, a break here and there would have turned the game
>to the opposite direction. Eagles got all the breaks --- Cunningham fumbled
>twice, and lost none. Dallas was bad luck, especially in the first half ---
>Martin's kick return should go all the way to give the Cowboys's a 14-10
>lead. Instead, he bumped with his own guy and was stopped with even resulting
>a field goal to tie the score at 10.
>
>Besides, one weekness of the Cowboys was the rockie kicker. That made the
>decision at the end of the first half extremely difficult for Jimmy. At
>the eagle 33, he opted to try to draw the eagles offside on 4th down. If he
>had a more consistent kicker, he would rather kick the field goal to tie
>it. 
>
>
>Oh, well, I am not impressed at all by the eagles. Granted, their defense
>is the best right now, but how about their offense? Cunningham is a so-so
>QB, definitely not the most completed QB in the game, IMHO.
>
>Bob

Do I hearing "moooing" here. Come on 'Boyz, you were beat. It wasn't
like the score was 31-30, Eagles favor. This was a stomp you, spit in
your face, call your sister a SL*T, and embarrass you nation wide
telecast. I guess the lights were too bright and the crowd was too
loud and biased. 'Boyz want a lollypop?

Please don't start with your IF's and lucky breaks, or whatever. A
good team will convert TOs into points. That is what separates 
Men from the 'Boyz. If Cunningham is just *so, so*, what is 
Troy "Can't get no satisfaction" Aikman.
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From: cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Dolphins vs Seahawks observations
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 22:33:59 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <1992Sep29.220624.167@col.hp.com>, kary@col.hp.com (Dan Kary) writes:
> drhall1@pbhya.PacBell.COM (Doug R. Hall) writes:
>> In article <2487@ceylon.gte.com> chf0@harvey.gte.com (Curtis Fennell) writes:
>> >For the 20th time in his NFL career, Dan Marino brought the Dolphins
>> >back from behind in the fourth quarter to win the game 19-17 in the
>> 
>> This is an interesting statistic. Would any other fans care to state how
>> often their quarterback has brought their team back in the fourth qtr?
>> Please include quarterbacks that are the starter, but are out because of injury
>> such as Kosar.
>> 
> 
> I think Elway had 20 fourth quarter winning drives at the start of the
> season, and has had at least 1 this year.
> 
> Dan (Not a Bronco Fan) Kary
> 

  John Elway had 19 at the beginning of the season. Then he added one in week
2 or 3 making his total 20 along with Marino.

                            -doug THE dolfan-
From: rhoads@pepper.rutgers.edu (Glenn Rhoads)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rules Question??
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:51:36 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
Cc: rhoads


>Rules Question regarding blocked punts and muffed punt receptions.  When
>a punt is blocked and the punting team recovers the ball the ball belongs
>to the receiving team Why?  I don't have a rules book, but it seems that 
>blocking a punt is trying to catch the ball on the way up and would be 
>considered a muff if not done succesfully!! 
 
>I can see that the ball goes to the receiving team only because no 
>change in possesion and the ball goes over on downs.  What if the 
>punt was on third down, who gets the ball?  What if the blocked punt goes 
>past the first down marker and is recovered by the punting team, who gets
>the ball?

A blocked punt is treated like an offensive fumble.  So when a punt is
blocked on 4'th down and the offensive team (i.e. the punting team)
recovers behind the first down marker, the ball goes over on downs.
If the punting team recovers the ball past the first down marker, or
recovers the ball behind the first down marker and advances it past
the first down marker (the punting team CAN pick up a blocked punt and
run with the ball), then it is first down and the punting team retains
possession.  If the punting team recovers a blocked punt on third
down, then the punting team retains possession but it is now fourth
down (unless of course they recover or advance the ball past the first
down marker).

>In the same light, if the receiving team muffs a punt, but the ball is 
>not punted past the first down marker and is recovered by the punting
>team who gets the ball?  Logic would say that there was no possesion 
>change and the ball goes to the receiving team on downs.

NO!  Once a team has successively punted the ball (i.e. not blocked)
there is an automatic change of possession no matter how far the punt
goes.  Thus, when a receiving team muffs a punt and the punting team
recovers, the punting team gets the ball and a first down.  The
yardage the punt went is irrelevant.

-- Glenn Rhoads
From: jic@vexcel.com (jic account for NAVY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: John Elway's Comebacks.
Date: 6 Oct 92 23:24:43 GMT
Organization: VEXCEL Corporation, Boulder CO

In article <21000@plains.NoDak.edu> sivaram@plains.NoDak.edu (Sivaram Hariharan ) writes:
>After seeing yet another comeback by Elway against the Chiefs
>at Mile-High, I have a question.
>
>Has Elway's Comeback victims ever included any strong NFC teams
>or is it that Elway has succeeded only againt the AFC in his
>comebacks. If he is indeed a great QB, then why has he not
>comeback against the NFC teams in the Super-Bowl.

Elway 4th Quarter Comebacks against NFC teams:

1984 vs. New England
1985 vs. Atlanta
1985 vs. San Fransisco  *
1987 vs. Green Bay
1987 vs. Chicago        *
1987 vs. New England
1988 vs. San Fansisco   *
1991 vs. New England
1991 vs. Phoenix

I'd say the 3 asterisked games demonstrate victories of the kind
you are asking.

Tom

Forever a Bronco Fan!

>
>I bet that Elway is just an average QB.
>
>S.H
>
From: rice@news.cis.ohio-state.edu (daniel rice)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: picks
Date: 30 Sep 92 23:43:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: hungry-t.9209302343.AA07232
Organization: The Ohio State University Department of Computer and Information Science

A couple of days ago someone posted there picks for the next week comin up.
Whover posted that could you please post it again.
I am compiling some facts from past and current weeks for a poll here
at OSU.  I will post the results soon.
Thanks!

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From: matt@ssehou.houst.sgi.com (Matt Carey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Kevin Mack and Johnny Johnson
Date: 6 Oct 92 15:29:33 GMT
Reply-To: matt@ssehou.houst.sgi.com (Matt Carey)
Organization: sgi

What is the status of these two players?

Thanks


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From: pc0837@sarah.albany.edu (COHEN PAUL L)
Subject: Re: Can Bills go 16-0?
Organization: State University of New York at Albany
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 21:59:00 GMT

In article <1abms5INNkv3@phakt.usc.edu> tehyang@phakt.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang) writes:
>I'm not a fanatical Bills fan, but looking at their schedule and how good
>they've been playing, doesn't anyone else think they might go undefeated?
>
>They've already beaten the 49ers, which was probably the toughest opponent
>they'll face this year. They're averaging around 35 points per game, and
>just seem to be so far ahead of any other AFC team.
>
The Bills still have some tough games left.  
1) Oct. 26 @ Jets.  O.K. the Jets ate 0-4, but they always play the Bills
   tough.  The Jets can't stop the Bills offense, but Nagle may be able 
   to put up some numbers of his own.  A test for the Bills? YES, but
   one that they should pass with flying colors.

2) Nov. 16 @ Miami.  Bills have a much better team than Miami has, but
   an average, at best, pass defense should allow Marino to put up points.
   However, touchdown for touchdown, the Bills should come out on top.

3) Dec. 20 @ New Orleans. Defense, defense, defense.  Will the Saints
   shut down Kelly and Thomas? No way in hell! But they will slow them down
   considerable.  Late in the season, the Saints fighting for playoff
   spots, and home field avantage.  The Bills fighting for their egos'.
   With much more to lose for the Saints, look for them to play the Bills
   like no one else has this season.  Also, the Bills may be looking ahead
   to Dec. 27 @ Houston, for a prelude to a possible AFC east Championship
   Game.  My prediction:    New Orleans 24
                            Bills       17

4) Dec. 27 @ Houston. If the Bills lose at New Orleans, Their hopes of
   a perfect season go down.  However, they should already have wrapped
   up home field avantage through the playoffs.  Houston will want to
   prove they can beat the Bills and be a Superbowl team.  So, it seems
   as if Houston will win.  On the other hand, Houston is not a Superbowl
   team, and the Bills are. Bills   34
                            Houston 24   

My conclusion, if the Bills defeat New Orleans, say hello to the first
team to go 19-0. But, that is not what will happen.
Bills 15-1, go on to win the superbowl.
From: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Can MIAMI  go undefeated again? was: Can Bills go 16-0?
Date: 4 Oct 1992 22:28:47 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aj639@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Cox)
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In a previous article, silverio@cass.ma02.bull.com (Brian Silverio) says:

>Can anyone beat Miami?
I guess according to all thos oh so smart Buffalo Bronco fans, they have to
go 16 and 0 since they just CREAMED/WALLOPED/DESTROYED/MANHANDLED/OVERPOWERED
and OUTfingPLAYED the bald headed Kelly and his grass eating teammates!  It is
amazing how Buffalo was so hyped up and they lost in their own back yard!!
hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!  I blow my nose in that general direction!!!

Mike
THE Miami Mike!!!
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From: goldberg@iastate.edu (Adam Goldberg)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Lions Update
Date: 28 Sep 92 13:40:13 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Originator: goldberg@vincent1.iastate.edu

In <92271.2218513ZASIB3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> <3ZASIB3@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> writes:

>Well, the Lions blew it again.  Problem: The offense does not stay on the
>field long enough.  The defense plays well through three quarters.  I don't
>think they have been scored on in the 3rd quarter this season.  But do they
>give up points in the 4th -- must be tired.  This was a problem last year
>and the year before -- ergo needed tight ends.  Now the problem *is* the
>"Jumbo offense," which was a bust last year.  Now they discover that they've
>got to spread the offense.  Back to the real "run-and-shoot."  Game plans
>have cost these games.
>Rodney Peete is a helluva QB.  He had a career best passing day 323 yrds.
>While the numbers are not showing it, because he is being tackled *before*
>he gets the ball, BARRY SANDERS is phenomenal to watch.  But watch out next
>week when they go back to four WRs and spread the defense.  We are only four
>games into the season and they "haven't been beaten yet, they've just run
>out of time" as super Lion Bobby Lane used to say.   Bob "A Lion Faithful"

Well, this is not entirely true.  The defense did not play well for 3 quarters
and I don't know what game YOU were watching.  I was there and have to say that
the defense came out of the tunnel listless and undermotivated.  I saw Sam 
Wyche jumping up and down, screaming, sending in plays, ie coaching and Wayne
spending alot of time chatting with Henning.  Sam caught the Lions sleeping 
3 times in the first half alone, which they converted to 10 points.  It should
have been 13, but they missed an easy field goal.  

We saw many an open man (especially the TE) and the Lions playing against
a zone that was easy to get open in, try to run up the middle against one
of the best defense lines in football.  I don't know what the coaches are
doing before a game, but it certainly isn't studying the other team.

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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Lions News and Views
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 13:16:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep25.162715.447@walter.cray.com> jwest@wisc (Jeff West) writes:

   To win in streaks you need a better than average defensive and offensive
   line.

   You only have one of those.

So which was better than average last year?  I didn't think either of them
was.  But I've got to agree with you, its going to be hard to get a solid
streak going with the OL the Lions have this year.

Bill

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From: zentner@picard.phil.uni-passau.de (Martin Zentner)
Subject: Standings and playoffs (?) 
Organization: University of Passau, Germany
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 11:20:53 GMT

Hi folks,

here are some question from someone, who doesn't know all about  
pro-football. So could someone please explain the following things to me  
(direct e-mail preferred)

First: How do you calculate the divisional standings ? (In detail: What  
kind of sorting is done after the pct ?)

Second: How do you determine the playoff-games ? (More precise: Who meets  
who in the conference-playoffs. --> No names, no guesses, just the way,  
how it is done.)

Last: How do you build the season-gameplan ? What kind of system is behind  
the schedule ? (I don't think, they choose the matches by random.)

Thanks in advance

     Martin
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