HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: avlsidwb@sn370.utica.ge.com (David W. Bishop)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
Subject: Versatec 8236 plotter and 8.1
Keywords: plot versatec
Date: 4 Jan 93 16:53:20 GMT
Reply-To: avlsidwb@sn370.utica.ge.com
Organization: General Electric, AESD

Does anyone out there know how to plot to an off-line Versatec 8236 plotter with
Mentor 8.1?  

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From: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de (Christoph Kukulies)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mentor
Subject: PSK tape installation
Date: 7 Jan 1993 09:15:36 GMT
Organization: I.Physikalisches Institut RWTH-Aachen
Distribution: world
Reply-To: kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de


Could anyone help me with installing the three PSK_Q3_91 tapes. 
I have a 10.3 (no sub releases) installation on my machine and want to
install with least possible hassle, leaving disk and user structure
untouched. Purpose of this all is to be able to install Release 8.0_5
from CD-Rom.

Do I need to boot from tape ? Or can I load the tapes into the AA and install 
from there?

--
--Chris
Christoph P. U. Kukulies
kuku@acds.physik.rwth-aachen.de
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
From: martineau@MacMartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca (Alain Martineau)
Subject: Re: Cyber Speeds
Followup-To: comp.sys.cdc
Organization: Hydro Quebec
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:21:24 GMT

In article <1993Jan07.115610.21080@crash>, uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
wrote:
> 
> I went to undergraduate school at the Univ of IL(83), and to 
> graduate school at San Diego State Univ.(85).  Both campuses
> had CDC Cyber machines I used in a limited capacity.
> I recall I was impressed with the speeds of the machines
> at the time, but I do not recall the exact models that were
> used.  They were 1's complement machines, and used 60 or perhaps
> it was 63 bit integers.
> 
> I am curious, if anyone knows, what the performance of the
> Cyber series of computers was in the mid 1980's.
> How would their integer or FP performance compare to a
> 50 Mhz 80486, in running a single, CPU intensive task.
> 
> -Roger
> --------------------------------------------------------------
> bix: ruzun
> NET: uzun@crash.cts.com

The LINPACK performance table can be obtained by sending to netlib@ornl.org
a message saying:
send performance from benchmark

Here is what I found:
CDC Cyber 2000V 32 Mflops
CDC Cyber 205(4-pipe) 17 Mflops
CDC Cyber 205(2-pipe) 17 Mflops
CDC Cyber 990E 12 Mflops
CDC Cyber 4680 9.4 Mflops
CDC Cyber 875 4.8 Mflops
CDC Cyber 176 4.6 Mflops
CDC Cyber 760 2.6 Mflops
CDC Cyber 175 2.1 Mflops
CDC Cyber 180-860 2.1 Mflops

The first 486 listed is
Compaq Deskpro 486/331-120w/487  1.4 Mflops

You can get the benchmarking program and run it on your machine.


Alain Martineau
Hydro Quebec
martineau@macmartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca
From: shursky@wecrow.enet.dec.com (Stanley Shursky)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
Subject: Re: Cyber Speeds
Date: 8 Jan 93 12:55:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


In article <1993Jan07.115610.21080@crash>, uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun) 
writes...
> 
>I am curious, if anyone knows, what the performance of the
>Cyber series of computers was in the mid 1980's.
>How would their integer or FP performance compare to a
>50 Mhz 80486, in running a single, CPU intensive task.
> 
>-Roger
>--------------------------------------------------------------
>bix: ruzun
>NET: uzun@crash.cts.com


CYBERs were 60 bit machines except the newer NOS/VE machines which were
64 bits.

I have all sorts of numbers somewhere at home, mostly comparing CYBERs
to VAXes.  Plus I did a fairly comprehensive history of the CYBER models
over time with their approximate speeds (again somewhere at home).

About the only number I can remember off the top of my head is that a
dual cpu CYBER 865 was good for about 26 mips.  I think that is about 
right.  We old CDC gurus are beginning to lose our memories.

Stan
From: andre@cict.fr (Patrick Andre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
Subject: function atan2
Date: 12 Jan 93 05:44:17 GMT
Distribution: comp.sys.cdc
Organization: Centre Interuniversitaire de Calcul de Toulouse


   qui peut me donner des indications
  sur la methode de calcul de la fonction atan2
  de la librairie standart C, ou bien
  comment disposer du source.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
From: heape@rtsg.mot.com (Robert P. Heape)
Subject: CDC's Postmaster?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:15:39 GMT

Sorry if anyone views this messgae as wasted bandwidth.

I'm looking for a way to send email to a person inside of
CDC's Ceridian (spelled correctly?) organization. 

Is there a CDC gateway I can email to or can someone tell me the 
address of the CDC postmaster?

Thanks!

Rob Heape

heape@oscar.rtsg.mot.com
From: lusol@Lehigh.EDU (Stephen O. Lidie)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
Subject: Re: SCU emulator in UNIX
Date: 4 Jan 93 14:14:17 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University, Bethlehem PA

In article <a282244.726142737@sun6> Richter@LRZ.LRZ-Muenchen.DBP.DE (Helmut
Richter) writes:
>
><AER0206@TECHNION.BITNET> writes:
>
>>I am looking for an emulator to replace the
>>Source Code Utility (SCU) of CDC/NOSVE
>>in a UNIX machine.  So far I was unable to
>>locate any reasonable substitute to SCU for
>>development and maitenance of large codes.
>>Joseph Falcovitz
>
>SCU is being ported to EP/IX (the CDC variant of Unix).
>The port is written in C, so it should be possible to
>port it to other Unix platforms. The main obstacle seems
>to be that CDC refuses to do such ports or to provide the
>source code to customers. I don't quite get the rationale
>behind it; they won't be selling more CD4000 just because

Agreed... and it's been this way too many years.


>behind it; they won't be selling more CD4000 just because
>SCU is on it but they chase away potential SCU users from
>EP/IX if SCU is not an open systems product.
>
>I have been arguing on VIM/ECODU and in this group for
>quite some time. Perhaps it helps if more people start
>pestering.
>
>Regards,
>Helmut Richter
>

OK, I'm pestering.... I'd love to see a real tool like SCU on
my U*X box....

SOL
From: uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
Subject: Cyber Speeds
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:56:10 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

I went to undergraduate school at the Univ of IL(83), and to 
graduate school at San Diego State Univ.(85).  Both campuses
had CDC Cyber machines I used in a limited capacity.
I recall I was impressed with the speeds of the machines
at the time, but I do not recall the exact models that were
used.  They were 1's complement machines, and used 60 or perhaps
it was 63 bit integers.

I am curious, if anyone knows, what the performance of the
Cyber series of computers was in the mid 1980's.
How would their integer or FP performance compare to a
50 Mhz 80486, in running a single, CPU intensive task.

-Roger
--------------------------------------------------------------
bix: ruzun
NET: uzun@crash.cts.com
From: gkc@freddie.udev.cdc.com (gordon k chace x2367)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
Subject: Re: Cyber Speeds
Date: 8 Jan 93 16:26:08 GMT

In article <martineau-080193081105@macmartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca>, martineau@MacMartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca (Alain Martineau) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan07.115610.21080@crash>, uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
|> wrote:
|> > 
|> > I went to undergraduate school at the Univ of IL(83), and to 
...
|> The LINPACK performance table can be obtained by sending to netlib@ornl.org
...
|> CDC Cyber 175 2.1 Mflops

The U of Illinois machine was a 175, so I've highlighted the applicable
entry from Alain's reports.

This could be slightly off, as the UIUC machine was an "A" model, and in
the "C" models there were multiple memory speeds offered.  The LINPACK
summaries do not appear to specify which model of 175 was measured.

-- 
Gordon K. Chace (former UIUC computer center employee)
Control Data Systems, Inc.   phone (612) 482-6524   fax 482-2791
email: gordon.chace@cdc.com or gkc@udev.cdc.com
RISC: Really Invented on the Sixty-six-hundred by CDC
From: uzun@crash.cts.com (Roger Uzun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
Subject: Re: Cyber Speeds
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:48:28 GMT
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA

In article <martineau-080193081105@macmartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca> martineau@MacMartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca (Alain Martineau) writes:
>
>Here is what I found:
>CDC Cyber 2000V 32 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 205(4-pipe) 17 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 205(2-pipe) 17 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 990E 12 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 4680 9.4 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 875 4.8 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 176 4.6 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 760 2.6 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 175 2.1 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 180-860 2.1 Mflops
>
>The first 486 listed is
>Compaq Deskpro 486/331-120w/487  1.4 Mflops
Thanks for the numbers.
I have linpack and have run it on my Amiga 4000 (68040/25) it gives me
1.24 MFlops.  Which is fine for Floating Point, but I wonder how
the Integer performance of a Cyber vs an 040/486 is.

-Roger
--------------------------------------------------------------
bix: ruzun
NET: uzun@crash.cts.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
From: Patrick F. McGehearty <patrick@convex.COM>
Subject: Re: Cyber Speeds
Originator: patrick@wagner.convex.com
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:53:40 GMT
Reply-To: patrick@convex.COM (Patrick F. McGehearty)
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <martineau-080193081105@macmartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca> martineau@MacMartineau.ccr.hydro.qc.ca (Alain Martineau) writes:
...in response to request for info about CDC Cybers vs 486PCs...
>
>The LINPACK performance table can be obtained by sending to netlib@ornl.org
>a message saying:
>send performance from benchmark
>
>Here is what I found:
>CDC Cyber 2000V 32 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 205(4-pipe) 17 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 205(2-pipe) 17 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 990E 12 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 4680 9.4 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 875 4.8 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 176 4.6 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 760 2.6 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 175 2.1 Mflops
>CDC Cyber 180-860 2.1 Mflops
>
>The first 486 listed is
>Compaq Deskpro 486/331-120w/487  1.4 Mflops
>

As a further clarification for those not familiar with the Linpack
benchmark suite, these numbers reference the 100x100 version of Linpack,
which requires an all Fortran solution.  The 1000x1000 version allows
architecture specific algorithms and assembly language tuning.  The
differences can be substantial.  For example, the Cyber 205(4-pipe) is listed
at 195 Mflops for the 1000x1000 problem set vs 17 Mflops for 100x100 problem
set, an improvement of over 1000%.  The range of difference varies strongly
with architecture, with vector and parallel architectures typically showing
much larger gains for the larger problem than scalar architectures.  For
example, the DEC VAX 6000/410 (1 processor, scalar) shows 1.2 Mflops on
100x100, and only 1.5 Mflops on 1000x1000, an improvement of only 25%.
Vendors who do not expect significant gains on the 1000x1000 problem over
the 100x100 problem are inclined to not submit results for the 1000x1000
problem.  So, my conclusion is that the linpack comparison shown above tends
to understate the floating point performance advantage of the Cybers over a
PC.  Readers should also be aware that Linpack performance says nothing
about integer or I/O performance.

If this discussion whets your appetite for more architecture/performance
comparisions, read comp.benchmarks for a few weeks.  Also be prepared for
the constant cavet 'your mileage will vary'.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.cdc
From: Richter@LRZ.LRZ-Muenchen.DBP.DE (Helmut Richter)
Subject: Re: SCU emulator in UNIX
Reply-To: Richter@lrz.lrz-muenchen.dbp.de
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:18:57 GMT


<AER0206@TECHNION.BITNET> writes:

>I am looking for an emulator to replace the
>Source Code Utility (SCU) of CDC/NOSVE
>in a UNIX machine.  So far I was unable to
>locate any reasonable substitute to SCU for
>development and maitenance of large codes.
>Joseph Falcovitz

SCU is being ported to EP/IX (the CDC variant of Unix).
The port is written in C, so it should be possible to
port it to other Unix platforms. The main obstacle seems
to be that CDC refuses to do such ports or to provide the
source code to customers. I don't quite get the rationale
behind it; they won't be selling more CD4000 just because
SCU is on it but they chase away potential SCU users from
EP/IX if SCU is not an open systems product.

I have been arguing on VIM/ECODU and in this group for
quite some time. Perhaps it helps if more people start
pestering.

Regards,
Helmut Richter
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: pjmelody@eos.ncsu.edu (PATRICK J MELODY)
Subject: Re: inside mac stack?
Organization: NC State Computer Science Dept.
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:42:11 GMT

I saw a program yesterday by Symantic called THINK Reference 1.0.  There was
not a lot of info on the package but it appeared to be an updated version of
the old Inside Mac DA.  Educational discount price was $55.  Does anyone have
this program who could post more info on it?

-- 
---------------------------------------------------------------------------
Patrick Melody                         
melod-pj@lancelot.csc.ncsu.edu   (use this address, NOT eos.ncsu.edu)
NCSU Computer Science Dept.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: rrumpf@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert Rumpf)
Subject: View TGA (Targa) on Mac?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:42:44 GMT

Does anyone know of a (preferably PD) program that will let one view Targa 
files on a Mac?  I have a IIci w/8-bit graphics.  I tried Imagery 1.8, but it 
spun it's cursor for over an hour with no results...

Bob
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: avery@ccrma.stanford.edu  (Avery Wang)
Subject: Language software
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 02:42:51 GMT

Hi-
Does anyone have experience with any of the various foreign language  
educational applications?  In particular I'm interested in software for  
learning French.  I'd like for there to be more structure than learning canned  
phrases.  Vocabulary drills and also grammar and verb conjugations, etc. would  
be nice.

Any recommendations?

Thanks,
-Avery

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim Powlesland)
Subject: Bar Code Readers
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 17:02:49 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta


Someone asked me yesterday if there was a Mac program that can
scan in bar codes into a database. The program would also have to
create bar codes as well. The person wanted to be able to control
inventory in their equipment room. The bar codes would be affixed
to the equipment. They would then use a hand scanner to read the
code into the program.

-- 
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/  Academic Computing Services      / VOICE:    (403)220-7937
/  University of Calgary            / MESSAGE:  (403)220-6201
/  Calgary, Alberta CANADA  T2N 1N4 / FAX:      (403)282-9199
From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Finding Invisible Files?
Date: 7 Jan 93 02:36:25 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

For reasons not entirely clear, I've stumbled across some files that are 
invisible, and shouldn't be (no, not system files, the ones I've found were 
GIFs, etc, that got munged somehow during FTP).

Anyway, I've been deleting the ones I find by making them visible with 
ResEdit.  Only problem is, I'm not sure what other invisible files are still 
out there now.  

How can I scan my hard disk for invisible files, either with the Apple OS 
itself (I'm 7.0.1), or with some FTPable utility?

Many thanks.

Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: szikopou@alfred.carleton.ca (Steven Zikopoulos)
Subject: what is hendrix
Summary: want to know what HENDRIX application is
Keywords: appliation
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 07:21:40 GMT

I downloaded an application call Hendrix from an FTP site (probably
SUMEX or U of Michigan).  I unstuffed it, ran it and can't od anything
with it.  Does anyone know anything about it?

Steven Zikopoulos
Carleton University
email: szikopou@ccs.carleton.ca

Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: ahog0090@rz.uni-hildesheim.de (Andreas Hogrefe)
Subject: H*LL LOT OF QUESTIONS
Reply-To: ahog0090@rz.uni-hildesheim.de
Organization: Universitaet Hildesheim, RZ
Distribution: world
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 09:39:26 GMT
Distribution: unihil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Followup-To: 
From: ahog0090@rz.uni-hildesheim.de (Andreas Hogrefe)
Reply-To: ahog0090@rz.uni-hildesheim.de
Organization: Universitaet Hildesheim, RZ
Subject: 
Keywords:
Distribution: unihil
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.hardware
Followup-To: 
From: ahog0090@rz.uni-hildesheim.de (Andreas Hogrefe)
Reply-To: ahog0090@rz.uni-hildesheim.de
Organization: Universitaet Hildesheim, RZ
Subject: 
Keywords: 


Hi there,

I'm most probably going to buy a Mac-System, but I've got a whole lot of questinos:

First: Hardware

1. I'm intrested in the new DUO-System. Has anybody informations about and experiences 
   with this Hardware?
2. Is the harddisk manufractured by Quantum or better, or is it a low price one?
3. In a prospectus there are many unclear datas. Why do the displayable resolutions 
   differ with the type of the monitor? (640*400 with a 13" MAC-Monitor, more with a   
   16" one)
4. A Mac DUO system can display 256 colors or grayscales, or, with enhanced VRAM, more 
   than 32000 colors. May one choose out of 16.7 mio. colors in each configuration? Is 
   VRAM enhancement really only an addition of Ram?
5. Is it possible to use a NEC 4FG with the DUO-System's docking station? Are there
   any restrictions of the resolution (question 2)?
6. The displayment of graphics slows down the CPU. The RAM is splitted into fast- and 
   video-Ram, isn't it?
7. Is there a MMU on board of a DUO-System? Can one put it in?
8. How long can you work with the battery and how long does it take to repower?
Second: Software

1. How much is a good C++ Compiler with Sourcelevel-debugger?
2. How much is a D-Base like data-processing language?
3. I know it sounds kiddy, but are there good (complex) strategie and simulation games 
   available? (especially: Civilization)
4. Is there a good public-domain scene?

Third: Future 

1. I wasted time & money with the Amiga system. I know the Mac is an established 
   business-computer, but I've heard rumors that Macintosh has financial problems. Is 
   this true? If yes, are they serious? Do you think the system is also endagered by 
   the masses of MS-Dos computers?
2. The MAC-system is best in desktop publishing. But are there many systems in smaller 
   buisness (doctors, lawyers, retail dealers and so on)? This is the target group 
   which I want to develop comercial software for.

I hope, someone has time to answer my questions. If so, thanks in advance.

yours,

	Andreas Hogrefe

P.S.: please excuse my horrible English...
From: andy@orchid.bdc.ubc.ca (Andrew Dwelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: Bringing an HD back to life
Date: 5 Jan 1993 00:29:10 GMT
Organization: The University of British Columbia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: orchid.bdc.ubc.ca


We recently took delivery of our first office mac, an LC II, and I spent
a happy week or so getting it set up to run with our existing printers and  
other PC systems.

Then, over the holidays it was lent out to another institution, and when
I got back today it was not seeing the hard drive any more ! I've since  
managed to reformat and partition the HD using the disk tools supplied,  
and its clear that I should use the installer disk to recreate the systems  
folder on the HD.

Unfortunately when you mount the HD using the disk tools disk (thus
bringing up the HD icon), the system will not let you eject the disk 
tools floppy so the installer floppy can be inserted to bring up the  
system software on the HD. As far as I can see, the only way to get
rid of the disk tools disk, is to restart the mac at which point the 
HD becomes unmounted (well the installer can't see it anyway).

Is there any way around this problem ? Ideally I'd like to bring up my  
nice fresh reformated HD icon using the disk tools, leave it mounted  
somehow and start the install procedure. So far the only solution I've  
been able to think of is to borrow an external floppy drive for the LC II  
so I can keep the disk tools disk running as the system disk, and then,  
when the HD icon appears, use the other drive to run the installer.

Is this the only way ? it seems rather odd that you need 2 floppy drives  
to remake the HD. All comments welcome.

Andy   

--
Andrew Dwelly - Biosciences Computing Unit, UBC, Vancouver, Canada
(604) 822-6527, andy@bcu.ubc.ca 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: amaag@chsun.chuug.ch (Andreas Maag)
Subject: laserwriter startpage
Organization: CHUUG Swiss Unix Systems Users Group
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 11:14:59 GMT

A long time ago there was a small script to
	turn off the startpage
posted somewhere here.
Could someone send it to me ?
		Thanks
			Andreas Maag
-- 
CHUUG/EUnet Switzerland                         Andreas Maag
 Zweierstrasse 35        Tel: +41 1 291 45 80
 CH-8004 Zuerich         Fax: +41 1 291 46 42    amaag@chuug.ch
Science is the systematic classification of experience.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: dandy@stokes.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (David S. Dandy)
Subject: Cannot delete TrueType font file
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 1993 16:44:59 GMT
Reply-To: dandy@stokes.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Organization: CSU Chemical Engineering
Keywords: TrueType, Dingbats, Error -39

I have a Mac LC (6-MB RAM) running System 7.1, a GCC QuickDraw printer,
and all of Apple's TrueType fonts. (All of the fonts are in the Fonts 
folder.) I found that the Zapf Dingbats TrueType font was no longer 
recognized by any of my applications. I decided to throw the existing 
font file away and reinstall from my StyleWriter disk. But when I tried
dragging Dingbats to the trash, I got a dialog box that said "An 
unexpected error occurred, because an error of type -39 occurred." 
Double-clicking on the Dingbats file to inspect the contents produces
the same dialog. The bottom line is that the system will not let me 
move the Dingbats TrueType file out of the Fonts folder.

I ran Norton Disk Doctor, and it reported that the Dingbats file could 
not be read and is probably damaged, and I should remove it from the disk
if it's giving me trouble. 

Does anyone know how I can get rid of this file??

D. Dandy


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(303) 491-7437                            Colorado State University
dandy@stokes.LANCE.ColoState.Edu       Fort Collins, Colorado 80523
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.misc
From: leong@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Kee Hoe LEONG)
Subject: ? on downloading shareware from ftp site
Summary: tell me how?
Keywords: ftp?
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 06:01:46 GMT

 i was wandering if anyone could tell me how to download 
 shareware from ftp site using mac.I also have trouble 
 do decompress,decode them .Please e-mail to me if you 
 think you could help.
 Thanks    :) ...




 my e_mail ad ====> leong@mullauna.cs.mu.oz.au
      


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