HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: zrsl0136@sysger.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Gerhard Rentschler)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: How to convert plain saved files to mailbook format?
Date: 27 Jan 1993 14:07:09 GMT
Organization: Rechenzentrum Uni Stuttgart
Distribution: world
Reply-To: g.rentschler@rus.uni-stuttgart.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: sysger.rus.uni-stuttgart.de

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: tin Questions/Suggestions
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 09:56:37 GMT

I just started using tin, and while I'm very impressed by it, I do
have a few suggestions and questions:

1) When re-drawing the screen, it would be nice if tin could catch
the interrupt of further keystrokes and stop the current display and
jump to that next command.  For example, if I hit ctrl-d to go to
the next page, and I hit /mystring while that re-draw takes place,
it would be nice to stop re-drawing and just immediately take and
execute the command.  It's not an issue for 9600 bps, probably, but
anyone coming in at 2400 bps feels pain during those re-draws.

2) When i c)atch up inside of a newsgroup, I frequently ended up
at the newsgroup level, but the screen would not re-draw.  I had to
explicitly hit ctrl-l to re-draw.  I gather this might be a bug.
This is on a SunOS 4.1 system.

3) I was not able to deduce how I might be able to pass through
multiple pages of posts, mark just those that interest me, and then
read all of them at once.  How do you do this?  Thanks!

-- 
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
From: markc@vnet.ibm.com
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:15:42 +1100
Cc: RBNTJC@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com (Thomas J Cozzolino)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Motif-based XRN that *runs* under AIX 3.2?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

In article <93021.143546RBNTJC@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com> you wrote:
: Hi.

: I tried to get DEC's MXRN to run under AIX 3.2 (IBM RS/6000).  It wasn't too
: pretty.

: Has anyone ported MXRN or another Motif-based news reader to AIX 3.2?

: Please reply directly, if possible.

I use xrn.6-17 right out of the box with AIX 3.2 (both Motif and Xt
versions work fine.)

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From: dls@Autodesk.COM (Daniel Louis Smith)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: FAQ's and how to get people to read them
Date: 23 Jan 93 09:28:01 GMT
Organization: Autodesk Inc., Sausalito CA, USA


	I usually read FAQ's in the areas I'm interested in before posting,
and encourage those around me to check them out.  I personally get irked
by the ones that do not have all of the questions listed at the beginning.
These remind me of an Easter Egg Hunt :-)

	Any opinions as to what formats work best?  I can see how some
lend themselves more to readability, and others to easier text processing.

				Daniel
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           formerly dansmith@autodesk.com, changed my login recently
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 14:35:45 EST
From: Thomas J Cozzolino <RBNTJC@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Motif-based XRN that *runs* under AIX 3.2?

Hi.

I tried to get DEC's MXRN to run under AIX 3.2 (IBM RS/6000).  It wasn't too
pretty.

Has anyone ported MXRN or another Motif-based news reader to AIX 3.2?

Please reply directly, if possible.

Thanks.

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers,comp.mail.misc,comp.mail
From: kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov
Subject: Integration of cc:Mail bulletin boards with NNTP News
Followup-To: news.software.readers
Originator: kjenks@gothamcity
Keywords: cc:Mail
Organization: NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 01:32:04 GMT

For my sins, I've been put in charge of implementing a LAN-based e-mail
system for NASA's Space Shuttle Program.  We're currently evaluating
cc:Mail as one of our design alternatives.  One of our requirements
(which might or might not be met in this first release) is to be able
to access Usenet news.  Another requirement is to provide bulletin
board functions for my users.

Has anybody ever used Lotus' Import/Export functions to integrate
cc:Mail bulletin boards with NNTP-based news?  Lotus says it's
possible, but I would have to "strip off those Internet headers
or change them into cc:Mail headers."  Their tech support folks
didn't know if anybody had ever worked out the I/R scripts to do
this.  If anybody has tried this, I'd like to know about it, even
if (ESPECIALLY if) you've tried and failed.

If I succeed, I'll publish the configuration files in Usenet.

-- Ken Jenks, NASA/JSC/GM2, Space Shuttle Program Office
      kjenks@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov  (713) 483-4368

     "NASA turns dreams into realities and makes science fiction
      into fact" -- Daniel S. Goldin, NASA Administrator
From: hugh@dciem.dciem.dnd.ca (Hugh D. Gamble)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: TIN: Partial Clear
Date: 26 Jan 93 16:00:47 GMT
Organization: NTT Systems, Inc., Toronto, Canada

In article <C1ALqx.CG@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu> stile@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Howard Wilson) writes:
>
>Is there a way to mark some files as read, while leaving others unread?
>Sort of like a "Clear messages 1-100, but leave the reast alone"-type thing?
>This is the ONE thing I miss from rn.  Other than that, tin beats it with
>a stick.  For those that don't understand (I seem to have problems putting
>down thoughts well today) I mean the rn command "1-100j", is there a way
>do to this with TIN?

Apparently not. Or if it is, it's a major secret. I just asked that a
few days ago and no-one could answer. I have a little more hope that
this is possible in GNUS, but no-one has explained a good way to
implement it for any threaded newsreader.

With GNUS you can do it with the "&" command if you turn threading off
first, but that's not very helpful. I suppose that setting the number
of articles to view at a time would work too, and you could finish the
whole buffer, exit, and re-enter as many times as required. That's a
bit of a pain too, and requires a lot of forethought.

Wigh GNUS it should be possible to mark a region in the buffer, then
write a function or adapt an existing one (which one?) to scan through
that region and mark all the articles in it as read. For tin or some
other newsreader you should still be able to keep the idea of a start
and end point (marked by mouse click, article number, start of buffer,
current point, ...) but I have no idea how the marking as read would
get done.

I'm considering going back to old fashioned unthreaded reading, partly
because of this problem.

emailed or posted solutions are most welcome.

-- 
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From: ophof@SERVER.uwindsor.ca (Scott Ophof)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: TIN interface suggestion.
Date: 25 Jan 1993 02:55:37 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


On 23 Jan 1993 17:42:59 GMT twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) said:
>In article <9301230412.AA17218@SERVER.uwindsor.ca> ophof@SERVER.uwindsor.ca (Scott Ophof) writes:
>>On 22 Jan 1993 01:39:30 GMT twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) said:
>>>In article <9301211857.AA25542@SERVER.uwindsor.ca> ophof@SERVER.uwindsor.ca (Scott Ophof) writes:
>>>>Iain & Steve, my fervent hope is that you both are implementing it
>>>>so that your utility can (without real difficulties) be used as
>>>>"front-end" for (virtually) any application (ie. not only tin).
>>>>...
>>>>And hoping *still* more that it won't necessitate re-compilation by
>>>>the user (though *very* nice as extra!).
>>>How do you imagine that any such thing will be possible?
>I'm implying not that recompilation would be a problem, but that a
>utility which would work for nearly any application would be nothing
>short of unbelievable.  The way the operating system is designed makes
>this close to impossible, if not actually impossible.

Um..  Even I, who am not wildly pro-Unix, would not wish to say
something like that of Unix.
Just to make sure we're on the same track, I'll restate my
suggestion in a bit more detailed fashion:
 - User X sets up a translate table A1 for application A (ie. he
   types key "k", the application does "d", and so on for each
   command he wants to have redefined).  X does the same with table
   B1 for application B, etc.
 - User Y does the same, building table A2 for application A, etc.
 - Etcetera for User Z, etc.
Now when user X invokes application A, the "translator" will
interpose itself between user & the application, and use table A1.
When User Z invokes application A, table A3 will be used (if user Z
built one, of course).

IMHO this should easily be possible in Unix.  It even adheres to all
the rules for a Unix filter (which I just checked!).  And somewhere
I heard the term "pty" used.  Could that be relevant?

Please tell me what (if anything) is wrong with the above.
And if this discussion (by now) doesn't belong here, please tell me
where it would fit better.


Regards.
$$\    F. Scott Ophof

--------------------------->  I speak *only* for *myself*  <-----
My credo:  Computers exist for OUR benefit, NEVER vice-versa.


Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: TIN interface suggestion.
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff and Nonsense Division
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:39:30 GMT

In article <9301211857.AA25542@SERVER.uwindsor.ca> ophof@SERVER.uwindsor.ca (Scott Ophof) writes:

>Iain & Steve, my fervent hope is that you both are implementing it
>so that your utility can (without real difficulties) be used as
>"front-end" for (virtually) any application (ie. not only tin).
>...
>And hoping *still* more that it won't necessitate re-compilation by
>the user (though *very* nice as extra!).

How do you imagine that any such thing will be possible?

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) /
From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: TIN: How can I change editor startup options?
Date: 26 Jan 93 20:37:24 GMT
Organization: Mail Group

Using TIN, how can I specify the edit command to be used?  I need to
make sure that one of two things happen:
	1) my alias for vi is used instead of an absolute path to 
	/usr/ucb/vi
	OR
	2) I can supply my own startup string directly.  I need
	for the startup string to contain an environment variable,
	as in:
		vi -c "$VI_ARGS"

Any hints appreciated.

-- 
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: lipinski_todd@macmail1.rtsg.mot.com (Todd Lipinski)
Subject: newswatcher?
Organization: Motorola Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:30:44 GMT
Followup-To: news.software.readers

Can someone e-mail or post what the latest version of Newswatcher is and
where I can find it via ftp?

--

Look ma,  a Sig!
From: scotty@piranha.cs.uoguelph.ca (Steve Howie)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: tin XUSER and XMOTD patches
Date: 27 Jan 1993 21:39:38 GMT
Organization: University of Guelph
Reply-To: scotty@piranha.cs.uoguelph.ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: piranha.cs.uoguelph.ca

Anyone know if/how these patches can be incorporated into an INN server? 

Just curious ...

Scotty
From: meyer@darkwing.uoregon.edu (David M. Meyer 503/346-1747)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: PC news readers?
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:43:30 GMT
Organization: University Network Services, University of Oregon, Eugene, OR
	97403
NNTP-Posting-Host: darkwing.uoregon.edu


	Here at the University of Oregon we're having problems
	finding a PC news reader (PD or otherwise) that can
	handle a full news feed (4000+ groups). Our PC people
	have tried trumpet, with various results. In general,
	however, it dies if there are too many groups (again,
	something like 3500).


	From my point of view, restricting the number of news
	groups that we carry to solve this problem would be
	working on the wrong end. Further, deciding which groups
	to carry is not a trivial and unpoliticized matter.

	Anyone have any suggestions?


	Thanks,


	Dave
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: FAQ's and how to get people to read them
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff and Nonsense Division
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:37:30 GMT

In article <9301211900.AA25769@SERVER.uwindsor.ca> ophof@SERVER.uwindsor.ca (Scott Ophof) writes:

>If users overcome the above-mentioned negative aura of FAQs, and
>try reading them anyway, you've got some pretty tenacious users
>here, with the right spirit.

I don't understand this "negative aura" of the FAQ that you mention.
I don't recall ever considering checking the FAQ for a newsgroup to be
a dishonorable task.

>It's downright criminal then to disillusion those users by giving
>them FAQs prefixed with a number of intro pages/screens that don't
>tell them anything they didn't already know using plain common
>sense.
>...
>And when the FAQ then goes on to describe the most silly questions
>and dumbest answers devisable by humans, it's no wonder the users
>give up in disgust!

I'll give you a little hint: the reason that these things are called
"frequently asked questions" is because they are asked, well,
frequently.  These silly questions are actually asked by silly humans,
and those dumbest answers often help them a lot.

>Suggestions:
> - GET RID OF THE DUMB QUESTIONS!  Users don't like being called
>   "dumb".  They aren't, you see.

Who's calling them dumb, besides you?

>   Many of them are just simply
>   disgusted with the lack of friendliness emanating from a lot
>   of people answering their questions.

If anyone's giving an FAQ a bad name, it seems to be you.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: sherric@hprpils.rose.hp.com (Sherri Cornejo)
Subject: TIN: Use several .newsrc files?
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 00:52:18 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.1]

Is there any way to create more than one .newsrc file containing a common
set of news groups to enter, and go into News using any one of the different
newsrc files?

Folks moving off of Notes used to use "notes -f thisfile" or "notes -f thatfile"depending on which set of groups they wanted to read.  For example, all the
hp.* groups in on file and all the alt.* groups in another.

Or should these guys just put their groups in a special order inside the
group selection menu and leave it at that?

Thanks in advance,

Sherri Cornejo
Roseville, Ca - HP
email = sherric@hprpcd.rose.hp.com
phone = 916-786-4225
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: mje@pookie.pass.wayne.edu (Michael J. Edelman)
Subject: Want recommendation for simple new reader
Reply-To: mje@pookie.pass.wayne.edu
Organization: Wayne State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 12:55:52 GMT

I'm currently running xvnews on a SPARC ELC, accessing a remote news server. This	works fine, but I need a simpler VT-100 oriented reader for dial-in use by one	person who also uses my machine. What's the simplest package to set up for this use?
   --mike   mje@pookie.pass.wayne.edu

Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: twpierce@unix.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Subject: Re: TIN interface suggestion.
Organization: Elitist Usenet Administrators, Stuff and Nonsense Division
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 08:04:13 GMT

In article <9301250854.AA01628@SERVER.uwindsor.ca> ophof@SERVER.uwindsor.ca (Scott Ophof) writes:

>Now when user X invokes application A, the "translator" will
>interpose itself between user & the application, and use table A1.
>When User Z invokes application A, table A3 will be used (if user Z
>built one, of course).

This would probably work.  It might be something of a resource hog,
however, and would require Sisyphian labors of configuration.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / 
\  / twpierce@unix.amherst.edu /               Rocks say goodbye.
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / 
Xref: sparky news.software.readers:2895 news.misc:2179 comp.misc:4962 comp.human-factors:3020
From: geoff@chemeng.ed.ac.uk (Geoff Ballinger)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Problems with NN 6.4.18
Date: 21 Jan 93 14:09:11 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University Chemical Engineering Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: oich.chemeng.ed.ac.uk


	I have recently installed the latest patchlevel of NN (6.4.18) on a
network of Sun 4s and have been having problems with intermitant segmentation
faults. The seg faults happen after I follow up or reply to an article, after
the article menu is redrawn but before the bar below is redrawn. I am using
auto-preview-mode if that is relevent,

					Geoff.

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Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Subject: Re: xrn info requests ignored
Reply-To: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 10:04:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.155632.7620@bcars6a8.bnr.ca>
djf@bnr.ca (Duane Fowler) writes:
[...]
|> Can anyone tell me:
|> 
|>  - if it's possible to have the scrollbar come up on the right 
|>    hand side like it used to
|> 
|> -  is there any way to make said scrollbar wider
|> 
|> -  The third (rightmost) mouse button clicked in the scrollbar region
|>    causes the text to scroll back in all (other) applications I know
|>    of but, for some reason, this also changed at or near 6.17.  Now
|>    you have to click button 1 _above_ the scrollbar to make it scroll
|>    back.  Is this changeable?

The things that you mention don't really have anything to do with xrn,
they are attributes of the widgets that xrn uses. The first doesn't
seem to be changeable. I think that the second is changeable by setting
XRn*Scrollbar.Thickness however I haven't tested this. The third
request is peculiar because the behavior you describe isn't standard,
all I can guess is that xrn hasn't been compiled against the Xaw
widgets.

-- 

Michael Salmon

#include	<standard.disclaimer>
#include	<witty.saying>
#include	<fancy.pseudo.graphics>

Ericsson Telecom AB
Stockholm
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
From: djf@bnr.ca (Duane Fowler)
Subject: xrn info requests ignored
Reply-To: djf@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell Northern Research, Ottawa
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 15:56:32 GMT

Hi all,

I've sent a couple of questions/suggestions to the persons suggested
by the xrn man pages, several times in fact, but they've been ignored.

Can anyone tell me:

 - if it's possible to have the scrollbar come up on the right 
   hand side like it used to

-  is there any way to make said scrollbar wider

-  The third (rightmost) mouse button clicked in the scrollbar region
   causes the text to scroll back in all (other) applications I know
   of but, for some reason, this also changed at or near 6.17.  Now
   you have to click button 1 _above_ the scrollbar to make it scroll
   back.  Is this changeable?

I also asked xrn-users-request@eros.berkeley.edu to add me to the mailing 
list as the man page suggests but this too was ignored, it seems.  Is there
such a list, and if so how could I get on it?

ANY help appreciated,

Duane
Newsgroups: news.software.readers,news.misc
From: joe@netcom.com (Joseph Jesson)
Subject: Filter and Forward News
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:02:12 GMT


Looking for a program to parse the incomming news, identify news articles
which "trigger" on a particular phrase or boolean string, and e-mail me
the article.

Seems like this would minimize my online time...

Thanks!
From: mss1@cornell.edu (Michael S. Shappe)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Re: Wanted: Mac NNTP reader, not Nuntius
Followup-To: news.software.readers
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:03:03 GMT
Organization: Cornell University
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: uncle-mikey.cit.cornell.edu

In article <1k28pqINN5r2@NS1.PeachNet.EDU>, Charles Menser
<charles@shadow.peachnet.edu> wrote:
> 
> I would like to find a mac based news reader (NNTP only, please).
> 
> Is Nuntius the only option?

Indeed not. Look also at Newswatcher (1.3d6 is available from the Mich
archives and, I believe, from Sumex) and TheNews (2.2, available from Sumex
and Mich).

/mss1
From: day@elmer.orl.mmc.com (Jim Day)
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: XRN 6.17 startup error message
Date: 26 Jan 93 13:49:40 GMT
Organization: Martin Marietta (Orlando, FL)

Hi,
When I start xrn 6.17 (on HP 720) is see the following message in my terminal
window:

Bogus active file entry, skipping
0000000000 0000000001 y

Any ideas what this is and how I can get rid of it?

Thanks...

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From: scrutton@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: news.software.readers
Subject: Anyone got Xrn6.17pl2 working on SGIs?
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:37:47 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I've got xrn6.17-pl2 running on an SGI under IRIX 4.0.5 which 
keeps gagging whenever a newsgroup is selected with:

	"xrn: X Toolkit Error: Cannot perform malloc
	xrn: X Toolkit Error: Cannot perform malloc"

Other than a lot of article renumbering problems cropping up it 
ran fine under IRIX 4.0.1

Have any SGI users out there run across this and solved it?

I've frigged with the config.h file all I can and the next step 
probably involves learning a lot more about X than I've ever 
wanted to know.

-- 
-Jeff scrutton@ac.dal.ca	Dalhousie University Oceanography Dept.