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From: rjm@cs.brown.edu (Ralph Marshall)
Subject: Re: rec.models.railroad Fortnightly FAQ
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:29:40 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.153105.4877@uc.msc.edu> wes@msc.edu writes:
>
>I would like to thank those responsible for assembling this information
>for everyones benefit.  This information can be of great use to others.
>However, I am somewhat dissapointed that the updated information that
>was provided in rec.models.railroad immediately after the last FAQ was
>posted did not make it into this new version.

[set of examples deleted]

I'm a pretty jovial guy, so I'm going to treat this as a
misunderstanding rather than a flame.  You'll notice that the FAQ is
not just a core dump of stuff posted on the net or mailed to me - I
actually read through the stuff, edit it for concision and clarity,
and figure out where to put it within the FAQ.  In the near future I
even hope to be able to break it into smaller files to make it easier
to read.

It should be obvious that this doesn't happen automatically, and as a
grad student hoping to finish my thesis and two courses before I leave
in 2 weeks I've actually had more pressing concerns than working on
this file.  I have a large collection of raw material (including all
of the corrections and additions mentioned by Wes) in a separate file
which will eventually make it to the FAQ.  The posting is generated
automatically every 2 weeks, which is why it was sent out even without
any real changes. I still think the material it contains is useful as
it stands so I didn't turn off the posting program.

So, rest assured that I'm not ignoring the valuable suggestions and
corrections, but merely haven't gotten around to incorporating them.
Hopefully I'll have a few free weeks in January to whip it into shape.

Ralph Marshall
rjm@cs.brown.edu
From: bill@mathnx.math.byu.edu (Bill Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Re: Rivarossi Centipede tenders
Date: 15 Dec 1992 21:14:07 GMT
Organization: Brigham Young University
Distribution: world
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In article <1992Dec15.194159.23105@news2.cis.umn.edu> wes@pi2.arc.umn.edu (Wes  
Barris) writes:
> A long time ago Chris Vacation wrote:
> 
> 
> []  I was lucky enough to find 4 stray Rivrrossi centipede tenders for my  
chally
> []and big boy. These tenders are better than the monagram tender. It has more  
> []weight, and is in a better proprtion. I have found out now that you can  
order
> []these tenders seperatly from Rivrrossi for $15 or $20 each. But I bought 
> []mine at a RR swap for $5 a piece. Also Wathers was carrying a Kemptron
> []all brass centipede tender kit that is built into a nice tender. I think
> []the price is $45 or $50 for the kit. 
> 
> I too just bought a Rivarossi centipede tender at a flea market!  From the
> looks of it, Rivarossi did not build these for electrical pickup.  Since
> this is the only one I have, I don't know if all Rivarossi Centipede tenders
> are constructed this way.  Does anyone know?
> 
> I am considering buying some NWSL wheels and fabricating my own electrical
> pickup.  This way, I can use it with other locos which require the tender
> to supply one of the pickups.
> 
> Comments anyone?
> 

I built a Bowser Big Boy and had an extra Riv tender I used with it.
Bowser makes an electrification kit for the Monogram tender so I
bought that.  You need a balsa block for support under the tender
after you remove the old wheels.  I had already removed both ends of
the tender.  It works ok.  The only problem I have encountered with it
occurs when it goes through a turnout.  The tender wheels are not all
flanged and I left a little too much side-to-side play so that they
sometime short.  Its easy to fix this (I think - my layout is now
completely dismantled for a rebuild) by shiming.

-Bill
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From: wes@uf.msc.edu (Wes Barris)
Subject: Re: TrainTronics or Snapper?
Reply-To: wes@msc.edu
Organization: AHPCRC, Minnesota Supercomputer Center
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:10:54 GMT

In article <brad_lange-161292090204@222.188.55.223>, brad_lange@chdqm1.sps.mot.com (Brad Lange) writes:
|> In article <FVPuVB4w164w@stauff.UUCP>, ed@stauff.UUCP (Edward L. Stauff)
|> wrote:
|> > 
|> > wes@uf.msc.edu (Wes Barris) writes:
|> > 
|> > > Has anyone had experience with either of these (of any other) capacitive
|> > > discharge devices?
|> > >       TrainTronics -- $40.00
|> > > 	Snapper      -- $20.00
|> > 
|> > $40?  Forget it!  I built mine from plans in "Practical Electronic Projects
|> > for Model Railroaders" (or something like that).  Works great (I use Peco
|> > switches, too), and it couldn't have cost me as much as $20; there's very
|> > few parts to it.
|> 
|> Just thought I would mention here that I have built and used the circuit
|> proposed in the above mentioned magazine, and it does work. However; we
|> were using the N.J. switch machines and found that after about four months
|> they were all disassembling themselves, much to our surprise! Apparently
|> the force of the mechanical movement with all that energy at one time was
|> vibrating parts off. We tried to solder and glue everything in place to
|> stop this, but eventually had to go to a simple 12 volt transformer to run
|> the switch machines.
|> 

Would you happen to remember the specific issue where the plans could be
found?
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From: wes@uf.msc.edu (Wes Barris)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Rivarossi parts catalogue/address?
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:01:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: uc.1992Dec14.150110.3939
Reply-To: wes@msc.edu
Organization: AHPCRC, Minnesota Supercomputer Center

I need to buy several parts for various Rivarossi steam engines.  Does
anyone have:

a) An address for Rivarossi so that I may write to them?

b) An alternate source for Rivarossi parts?

I have checked for an address on a Rivarossi passenger car box but there
was none.  I also have older AHM (former Rivarossi importer) boxes which
do show the address for AHM, however, I don't believe AHM exists anymore.

Any help?

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Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
From: Joe.Russ <Joe.Russ@mixcom.mixcom.com>
Subject: Re: O Gauge accessories
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 19:39:34 GMT


>vehicles, figures, furniture, and trees. Can anyone suggest where to
>start looking for these things - preferably mail order sources. Also
>what are the better manufacturers?
 
I'd suggest looking at a W.K. Walthers 0 scale catalog in the model
railroad section of your local hobby shop. Since your dealer can
"sometimes get it from Walthers" you might not want to order through
them, but at least it will give you some idea what's out there. Good
luck.
-- 
Joe.Russ@mixcom.com
WISE Div., NMRA
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
From: wes@uf.msc.edu (Wes Barris)
Subject: Re: rec.models.railroad Fortnightly FAQ
Reply-To: wes@msc.edu
Organization: AHPCRC, Minnesota Supercomputer Center
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:31:05 GMT

In article <rec-models-rail_724313704@tahiti.cs.brown.edu>, rjm@cs.brown.edu (Ralph Johnson Marshall) writes:
|> Archive-name: model-railroad-faq
|> 
|> This is the rec.models.railroad list of Frequently Asked Questions
|> (FAQ).  It is maintained by Ralph Marshall (rjm@cs.brown.edu)  All
|> contributions and corrections are welcome, but I'm ultimately
|> responsible for what appears here.  Contributors are acknowledged at
|> the end of the file.
|> 

I would like to thank those responsible for assembling this information
for everyones benefit.  This information can be of great use to others.
However, I am somewhat dissapointed that the updated information that
was provided in rec.models.railroad immediately after the last FAQ was
posted did not make it into this new version.

Example 1:

	The following line:

    FAQ:EMD's first main model was the FT which I'm sure stood for freight.

	should read:

	EMD's first main model was the FT which stood for Freight-Thirteen
	hundred fifty horsepower.

Example 2:

	The following may be true but:

    FAQ:(Baldwin, Lima, and Hamilton are all towns in Ohio.

	Baldwin, Ohio has nothing to do with the Baldwin Locomotive Works
	located in Philadelpia, PA.

Example 3:

	Information was provided on HO model steam engines (to supplement
	the already good information on diesel models).  However, the
	steam information is not yet included.



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From: pesce@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Leo Pesce)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Re: Marklin electrical requirements
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:48:24 GMT

In article <1glj3hINNk9d@seven-up.East.Sun.COM>, billp@tandoori.East.Sun.COM writes:
> A friend of mine at work has some older (1950's) Marklin rolling stock and
> engines and wants to get them running.  He's wondering what type of 
> current the engines require, AC or DC??  He priced a Marklin power supply
> and he'd like to avoid having to spring for one at least for now.  
> 
> Thanks in advance for any info you may have.
> 
> bill pittore

If I am not mistaken, Marklyn already had AC current in the 50's. As
for the power pack, go to a flea market or swap meet. I got a 30VA
transformer for $15. The outside was a bit beaten up, but I cleaned
it and it works great.

Leo
From: david@convex.csd.uwm.edu (David Stack)
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Engineer Simlation Software
Date: 14 Dec 1992 16:36:11 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.7.30
Originator: david@convex.csd.uwm.edu

Could someone please give me the name of the Abracadabra product that is
like "flight simulator for trains", i.e., the one that lets you simulate
being the engineer on a layout you program into it.  There are several
products on the market with similar sounding names and when I call around
to try and find it at one of the local software houses I want to make
sure that I'm asking for the correct one.

Thanks very much!

Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
From: karayan@blitzen.cc.bellcore.com (karayannopoulos,george)
Subject: Re: European Train Enthusiasts (was Pantographs)
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:58:49 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.120630.4860@schbbs.mot.com> yves@speedy.dev.cdx.mot.com (Yves Vidal) writes:


>                                        There are different companies
>iin Europe selling N-Scale stuff, mainly German companies : 
>Arnold Rapido, Fleishman, Minitrix, LIMA, ROCO and also a Spanish company 
>but I do not remember the name.

That's Ibertren.  Does anybody know where to get their products?
Is there a US importer?  Any hobbyshop / mail order that carries them?
How about a European hobby shop willing to ship to the US?
___________________________________________________________________
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karayan@rigel.cc.bellcore.com              Bellcore, Red Bank, NJ
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From: nef@mace.cc.purdue.edu (paulhicks)
Subject: Thomas the Tank Engine
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:59:19 GMT

Dear Netters,
	This may be of interest to those of you following the
Thomas the Tank Engine thread.  This is a price list of all
Hornby Thomas the Tank Engine trains and accesories as of
Feb. 1 '92.  The prices are in pounds sterling and do include
VAT.  (For those of us in the USA VAT is sales tax which runs
about 17% and the current exchange rate is 1 pound =1.70 dollars,
approx.)  Also, prices are not given for train sets.

Electric train sets.
Percy Shunter
Thomas Passenger

Clockwork sets (metal track)
Thomas Goods 
Thomas Passenger
Percy Goods

Clockwork  Play train sets (Plastic track)
Thomas Goods
Thomas Passenger

Electric Locomotices
Percy the Saddle Tank Engine	24.95
Thomas the Tank Engine		39.90
Gordon the Big Blue Engine	63.35
James the Red Engine		53.20

Accessories
Tidmouth Milk Wagon		5.45
Open Wagon			4.60
Closed Van			5.45
Brake Van			5.45
Annie Coach			7.95
Clarabel Coach			7.95
Composite Coach			12.65
Brake Coach			12.65
Breakdown Crane			22.60
Tunnel				9.95
Station				17.90
Water Tower			7.95
Signal Box			8.65
Signals(Home and Junction)	9.50
Engine Shed			9.95
Goods Shed			10.65
Foot Bridge			8.65
Platform and Canopy		4.00

Thomas Playtrain Clockwork Locomotices
Thomas (Blister Pack)		11.10
Percy (Blister Pack)		11.10

Thomas Playtrain Pack Accessories
Straights			2.45
Curves 				2.45
Points 				2.95
Diamond Crossing		1.10
Buffer Stop and Ramp		 .60

I hope this helps,
		Paul

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From: myers@hplred.HPL.HP.COM (Tom R. Myers)
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:11:14 GMT
Subject: Re: Help with a Lionel Transformer
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories, Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad

According to the repair manual, the Lionel part number
of the circuit breaker is 21-23 .


trm

From: wbrill@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Warren Brill)
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:08:02 GMT
Subject: Re: Build Your Own Railroad
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad


How does one get Edit Track, anyway? I have tried to ftp from other notes
sites and I always get the "address not found" error. Has anyone at any
of the myriad of other sites reading rec.railroad have this problem, or
is it just HP Fort Collins' notes hub that can't find anything outside
its own domain?
Thanx for any info in advance! BTW-> If anyone wanted to email me a copy,
that would solve the problem, but that would be a long file! :-) 

 
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From: smb@research.att.com (Steven Bellovin)
Subject: Re: Help with a Lionel Transformer
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:49:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories

In article <1992Dec14.194418.10987@ryn.mro4.dec.com>, pierson@cimcad.enet.dec.com (Dave Pierson) writes:
> 	At a guess, the overload breaker was "shunted" by a resistor.  When the
> 	breaker opened, the resistor would limit the current.  Elegant and
> 	reliable, so long as the breaker functions.  The usual thermal breaker,
> 	employed will self reset, once it cools (if the short circuit is
> 	removed....)

It's even more elegant than that -- in some models at least, the short
circuit indicator bulb is itself the shunt resistor.  When the breaker
opens, the current will light the bulb instead.
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
From: tarumph@uncc.edu (Timothy Allen Rumph)
Subject: Re: Good quality N scale track
Reply-To: tarumph@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 23:46:46 GMT

In article 43453@fibercom.COM, davison@blueridge.fibercom.com (Mike Davison) writes:
>I am planning to begin construction of a new layout in N scale and 
>would like to determine what the best quality N scale track is. 
>The primary objectives are appearance and quality of operation.
>Although I believe the later case is mainly driven by the 
>smoothness and rigidity of the roadbed.
>
>	1) What rail sizes are available. I have seen code 40 to 
>	   code 100. What provides the best appearance? (Let's 
>	   assume RP-25 wheels)
>
>	2) Who makes rail, ties, and spikes for hand-laying track.
>	   Any tips for hand-laid track in N scale? (I've done
>	   hand-laid HO track)
>
>	2) Who makes the best sectional track?
>
>Thanks,
>Mike
>-- 
>--
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I am using the Micro-Engineering code 55 flextrak. Turnouts are hand layed with code 55
rail glued to wooden ties with Pliobond (distributed by Micro-Engineering.) I have not had any problem with this so far, but my layout is in a climat controlled space inside my mobile home, so does not have wide swings in temperature and humidity. I've considered switching to PC board ties to speed constriction and make possible adjustments in the future easier.

Spikes are available, but may limit you in your choice of rail sizes. The Micro-Engineering flex noted above lookes very good and is also availble in code 40.

Apperiance due to rail size is not very critical with weathered track, unless you plan to take pictures of the layout, then I would suggest that you stick with codes 40 or 55.

I've been switching to NWSL weathered N-scale wheel sets. They have small flanges and I am planning on using current sensing track detecters, so this will simplify the problem of detecting cars. I have found that I have less problem with dirty wheels when they are metal rather than plastic. You may consider this advise suspect, since I also throw away the Micro Trains wheels and cut off the talgo mounted couplers and replace them with body mounted couplers.

Tim Rumph
tarumph@mosaic.uncc.edu
KD4OWS@W4BFB.#CLT.NC.USA.NA
(704)455-5259
From: billp@tandoori.East.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: rec.models.railroad
Subject: Marklin electrical requirements
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:35:36 GMT
Reply-To: billp@tandoori.East.Sun.COM ()
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.  Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: tandoori.east.sun.com

A friend of mine at work has some older (1950's) Marklin rolling stock and
engines and wants to get them running.  He's wondering what type of 
current the engines require, AC or DC??  He priced a Marklin power supply
and he'd like to avoid having to spring for one at least for now.  

Thanks in advance for any info you may have.


bill pittore

--
Bill Pittore - SunSelect, a Sun Microsystems Inc. Business
Billerica, MA 01821

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From: yves@speedy.dev.cdx.mot.com (Yves Vidal)
Subject: RIVAROSSI Address  
Organization: Motorola Codex, Canton, MA
Distribution: rec.models.railroad
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 06:05:42 GMT
Followup-To: group
Keywords: RIVA

As promised, following are the coordinates of our preferred steam 
engines manufacturer .....

 RIVAROSSI 
 Nuova Gestione S.P.A.
 Via Pio XI
 157/159 - COMO
 ITALY

Their phone number should be : (39)-031-541-541
Their FAX number should be   : (39)-031-540-752
Their TELEX number should be : 380.133 RR

As I mentionned it earlier, they do not sell (and ship) spare parts
to private customers. However, they may take your engine, upon prior
agreement, to fix it at their factory. You'll have to arrange for 
shipping, clearing customs and international payment.

You may also try to have your favorite dealer, get in touch with them.

Good luck...

Yves