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From: mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Current CHL Database
Date: 29 Jul 92 14:23:57 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK


Here is the current info I have on the CHL.  I will also be sending copies
of this to those of you who have asked to be included in the newsletter, so
if you don't get a copy drop me a line and I'll try to figure out what I'm 
doing wrong...


Central Hockey League (established 1992)

Founder and President - Ray Miron
Commissioner - Monte Miron
Marketing Director - Jim Goodman
Information Director - Eric Kolb

Six non-affiliated teams play a 60 game schedule extending from early
November to mid March.

Each team is owned by the league, with local interests controlling day to
day operations.

Each team has a $100,000 salary cap for 17 total players
(16 dress up).

Unlike the ECHL, players are not limited to three years in the league.

Teams play in Wichita, Tulsa, Oklahoma City, Memphis, Fort Worth, and Dallas.

Future expansion plans include Houston, San Antonio, New Orleans, Omaha,
Albuquerque, and Little Rock.  Houston and San Antonio are nearly a lock for
the 1992-93 season.

TEAMS:
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Fort Worth Fire                 | Wichita Thunder
                                          |
Arena:    Tarrant Co. Conv. Cen. (13,500) | Kansas Coliseum (8,906)
Colors:   Red and Black                   | Red and White
GM:       George Branum                   |
Coach:    Pete Mahavolich                 |
Phone #:  (817) 335-FIRE                  |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Dallas Freeze                   | Tulsa Oilers
                                          |
Arena:    Fair Park Coliseum (7,490)      | Civic Center (6,923)
Colors:   Black and Teal                  | Blue and Orange
GM:       Tom Koch                        |
Coach:    Ron Flockhart                   | Gary Unger (rumored)
Phone #:  (214) 421-PUCK                  |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
          Memphis River Kings             | Oklahoma City Blazers
                                          |
Arena:    Mid-South Coliseum (11,065)     | Myriad (13,263)
Colors:                                   |
GM:                                       |
Coach:    Steve Carlson                   |
Phone #:                                  |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------

The blanks will be filled in as the data becomes available...

Disclaimer: Portions of this info are unconfirmed and/or rumored. Please 
e-mail any corrections or insertions.

CHL Contact:  Marc Foster  mfoster@metgem.gcn.uoknor.edu
                           mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu

CHL Newsletter coming soon via email.  Contact Marc to be put on the list.
 
Marc Foster
mfoster@metgem.gcn.uoknor.edu
mfoster@alliant.backbone.uoknor.edu
From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Sharks hire woman as scout
Keywords: The first in the NHL.
Date: 21 Jul 92 23:10:26 GMT
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA

In article <1992Jul21.195609.67211@cs.cmu.edu> lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico) writes:
>I heard on the radio this afternoon that the SJ Sharks have hired the NHL's
>first female scout.  I only heard bits and pieces of the story.  Nelson (or
>any other Shark fan), do you have all the details?

Deborah Wright, 26, was hired by the Sharks yesterday to work as a part-time
scout for the Sharks in Quebec and eastern Ontario.

Personnel director Chuck Grillo did not mention her gender as part of the
reason.  "Quite frankly, she was impressive, knew what she was talking about,
knew the league, and she was bilingual," said Grillo.

According to the article in San Jose Mercury News, then, it sounds as if
Wright got her job mostly because she was knowledgable and bilingual.  She
had scouted for two junior teams in Quebec (QMJHL?) and coached a boys team
in Ottawa in '85-'86.  She played in the Ottawa Women's Senior Hockey League
from '82 to '84.

===============================================================================
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Go for Next Year! :-(
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Pat Falloon for Hart! :-) Neil Wilkinson for Norris!  ('92-'93)
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: pyacm@trentu.ca (A Colin Morton)
Subject: Re: Olympics in 199?
Organization: Trent University, Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:07:15 GMT

In article <hamlet.712425957@milton> hamlet@milton.u.washington.edu (Mitch McGowan) writes:
>psycho@brtpa25.bnr.ca (Paul Jezioranski) writes:
>
>>	Your friend is correct. The 1994 Winter Olympics will be held in
>>Lillehammer, Norway. The following Winter Olympics will be held in 1998
>>at a site that, I believe, has yet to be determined.
>
>Nagano, Japan.
>
On a related note, I note that two more short-track speed skating events
and (ta-daaaa!) women's hockey will be medal events at Nagano.

Colin.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: MLG phone number?
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 18:43:20 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Distribution: na
Keywords: main number or gift/pro shop


Could someone provide me with the phone number for Maple Leaf Gardens.  If
you have a number for the gift/pro shop, could you send it along?

Thanks in advance,
Lori



Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: romano@monolith.bellcore.com (Paul C. Romano)
Subject: RANGERS NEWS: Andersson signs, Smith wins arbitration hearing...
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 16:58:01 GMT

	The NY RANGERS announced that they have reached an agreement 
to bring defenseman Peter Andersson from Sweden to New York for the 
1992-93 season. Andersson, captain of Malmo in the Swedish Elite 
League, had 12 goals and 20 assists for 32 points in 40 games last
season, ranking 3rd among defenseman in scoring. 

	Also, GM Neil Smith was happy to announce that the arbitrator 
for the NHL had selected his proposal for compensation for Tampa Bay's 
signing of free agent forward Rob Zamuner. The RANGERS will receive
Tampa Bay's 3rd round selection in next year's draft.

Paul Romano
RSH Contact - NY RANGERS

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: romano@monolith.bellcore.com (Paul C. Romano)
Subject: RANGERS NEWS: Hull traded...
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 17:18:39 GMT

	The NY RANGERS announced that they have traded right wing Jody Hull
to the Ottawa Senators for future considerations. 
	Hull was the first pick of the Hartford Whalers in 1987, #18 overall.
He was traded to the Rangers in 1990 for Carey Wilson & a third round draft
choice in 1991.
	Hull played in only three games with the Rangers last season, but had 
65 points in 69 games at Binghamton in the AHL.

Paul Romano
romano@monolith.bellcore.com
RSH Contact - NY RANGERS


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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Subject: Re: Renegotiation
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:20:58 GMT

In article <Bruo8t.3ML@wrs.com> gak@wrs.com writes:
>>People keep saying "we never would have won the Cup without _______."
>
>...Washington, New York, Boston, and Chicago rolling over and playing dead.
>
>---
>gak
>107/H/3&4
 Please bear with me people as this is my first time trying to use this
 system. Anyway, this post has nothing to do with renegotiation, but as I
 said before I haven't figured this out totally.  
  I just read in yesterday's paper that the 1993 Hockey Final Four, scheduled
  for April 1 and 3 in Milwaukee's Bradley Center, has already sold out. I guess  it's the fastest sellout in the history of the final four. Considering we
  don't have a college hockey team in Milwaukee, that's not too bad.
  Now that I've got that exciting bit of news out of the way, I'd like to
  throw a couple of thoughts everone's way.
  First (if talking about college hockey is okay on this net), what did 
  people think about this year's championship game? Being a Badger backer,
  and therefore probably being a little biased, I thought Wisconsin got
  screwed by the refs. Their harassing of the refs after the game was
  unexscusable and out of character for the program, but being a pretty
  serious athlete myself I could see how frustration got the best of them.
  Hell, I was kicking my couch in frustration that night.
  I was also wondering if anyone had any information on the possibilities
  of an NHL franchise coming to Milwaukee. It seems like we, and the Petits,
  have been waiting forever for it to happen.
  And lastly, does anyone have any info on how John Byce in the Bruin
  organization, or any other ex-Badgers are doing in their quest for
  reaching the NHL? Or for that matter, how many ex-Badgers are in the NHL?
  Thanks in advance,

  Salty
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: bdown@vis.toronto.edu (Brian Down)
Subject: "New Age" Flyers?? ( Was Re: A Lindros prediction...)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of Toronto
Distribution: na
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:32:08 GMT

terry@btree.uucp (Terry Whalen) writes:

>>And I predict that Dave Brown will dismantle anyone who even looks
>>at Lindros the wrong way.
>>
>>What is it with some of you people?  I can see rooting against
>>another team and/or player(s) but do you actually enjoy seeing
>>someone injured?  There have been quite a few posts predicting and
>>hoping for a Lindros injury.  You people are fucking sick!  Do
>>yourselves and the rest of us all a favor, GET A LIFE!
>>
>>                                         \ \
>>Joe Dakes                                 \/\
>>AT&T Microelectronics                      \/\
>>555 Union Boulevard                         \ \
>>Allentown, PA  18103                     LET'S GO FLYERS! 
>>alux2!jmd                                     \ \
>>                                               \ \__________
>>                                                \____/_//__/
>>
>Well stated Joe, I agree with you.  to all you goon wannabes: "You
>people are really sick". 

>ucsd!btree!terry

"Goon wannabes"?? Terry, I don't think Joe was referring to goons,
other than his reference to Dave Brown.

Rather, he was decrying some people's posts indicating they hope
some injury befalls Mr. Lindros.

Prehaps Eric has brought some sort of new found sensitivity to
Flyer fans? After all, it is the 90's! I remember well the huge
cheers that could be heard in the Spectrum after Kelly, Saleski
or Shultz did their thing.

Prehaps I'm wrong. Maybe these cheers were because the beaten,
bloodied recipient wasn't injured. I'm not sure. 

Who knows: Maybe they'll even turn Eric's mom into the new Fat Lady.
Bonnie could sing "God Bless America" ala Kate Smith! :-)

Brian Down (bdown@vis.toronto.edu)
From: mira@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Mira Gladovic)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: GIF files again-Sorry! (Jonas)
Keywords: gif, logo
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:48:10 GMT
Organization: Customised Software Solutions Centres, AOTC

I'm really sorry about having to do this again but....
I need the NHL .gif file logos sent to me again. (I think they were from
Jonas - Ericcson Telecom)

Thanks in advance (again)

-- 
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Network Services              ~ Snail : 1/18-20 Orion Road, Lane Cove West NSW
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Most impressive arena?
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:54:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.105645.17707@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> kirchner@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Robert Kirchner) writes:
>
>Which is the most fascinating, most impressive arena for watching a NHL game?
>
>Don't rank by home team, but criterias like noise made by cheering fans,
>support when team plays not very well, show, entertainment before the game
>starts and during breaks, music, architecture, tradition, ...
>

If you have to see one hockey game anywhere in the world...that place is
the Montreal Forum.  

Gerald
From: willis@oracle.SCG.HAC.COM (Stan Willis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: The Hockey News
Date: 21 Jul 92 22:18:19 GMT
Reply-To: willis@empire.dnet.hac.com (Stan Willis)
Distribution: na
Organization: none

In article <1992Jul20.161414.13608@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> mfoster@ALLIANT.BACKBONE.uoknor.edu (Marc Foster) writes:
>Could someone please post or email me the address and suscription prices 
>for THE HOCKEY NEWS.  I can't find it anywhere down here in Fort Worth/Dallas.
>
>Thanks,
>
>Marc

The Hockey News costs us$49.95 per year for 42 issues.  It comes weekly during 
the season, monthly during the summer.  Call them toll-free at
(800) 268-7793.

Stan Willis
net contact: L.A. Kings



Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: lli+@cs.cmu.edu (Lori Iannamico)
Subject: Sharks hire woman as scout
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 19:56:09 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Keywords: The first in the NHL.

I heard on the radio this afternoon that the SJ Sharks have hired the NHL's
first female scout.  I only heard bits and pieces of the story.  Nelson (or
any other Shark fan), do you have all the details?

Lori
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Lindros, etc., are we there yet?
Date: 25 Jul 92 21:58:49 GMT
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department

In article <300@wavefront.wti.com> matthew@wavefront.wti.com (Matthew Coohill) writes:
>
>	Gerald Olchowy brings complains that (and I quote)...
>
>		"Lemieux dives and fakes and whines"
>
>	BTW, that's exactly what Eric Lindros and team Canada PRACTICED
>  for a full day right before the Olympics.  They thought that it was
>  important to get the refs to notice things that they'd miss normally
>  AND that if someone had their stick up into your groin... you might as
>  well fall onto the ice and send them to the penalty box.  It seemed to
>  work for them.
>

They may have practiced diving and and faking, but not whining...Dave
King coached teams never whine...and for Dave King's team this was
purely a defensive manouvre, only to be utilized if their opponents
resorted to such tactics...something which obviously cannot be said
of Mario.  Unfortunately, international hockey is prone to such
fakery, and one has to be prepared...and unfortunately Mario is
popularizing such tactics in the NHL.

And for the record, Canada did very little diving or faking at
the Olympics.

Gerald
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: kahn@emav131.webo.dg.com (Mike Kahn)
Subject: Re: Dark jerseys cause more penalties (was Re: Flyers jersey?)
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 21:11:38 GMT
Reply-To: kahn@emav131.webo.dg.com (Mike Kahn)
Organization: Data General Corporation, Westboro, MA

In article <1992Jul28.235556.611@mala.bc.ca>, epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
writes: 
> I remember reading something about that eight or nine years ago.  It was
> a newspaper or magazine article describing a study some psychologist
> had done.  The psychologist had found that teams with predominantly
> black uniforms tended to get more penalties and win more games than
> other teams.
> 
> He used data from the four major pro sports (hockey, baseball, football,
> and basketball) over the preceding (10? 20? 30? can't remember) years.
> The only black-uniform teams I can think of from that era are the
> Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders, the Pittsburgh Steelers, the Chicago
> Bears, and the Chicago White Sox.  The Sox stunk, but the other teams
> were good.
> 
> I think I remember the article saying that the effect was weak, but
> still it wasn't too much later that everybody started changing to
> black unis.  (Canucks, Kings, Pens, and now apparently the Flyers)
> 
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> Lorne Epp                                               epp@mala.bc.ca
Along the same lines - I remember reading an article more recently on the
same topic.  An additional point they made, however, was that they did a
study regarding teams that switched colors.  They found that the year that
a team switched colors their incidence of penalties was significantly higher
than that of the previous year - I think they used the Kings as an example.
Now the article kind of implied that the reason for this was because the 
officials had some sort of unconscious bias against the teams in black.  
I feel that this is probably partly true but could it also be that there was
a change in the players' psyche as well - perhaps that they felt tougher in
black than they did in purple.
From: rademaew@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Not entirely a Lindros Post! (WAS:Re: Lindros...blah blah)
Date: 22 Jul 92 23:59:44 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati


 The Flyers will finish in 5th place, ahead of New Jersey.
> 
> The Patrick division will finish as follows:
> 
> Washington  105 points
> Pittsburgh   98
> NY Rangers   97
> NY Islanders 85
> Philadelphia 81
> New Jersey   80
> 
> 
> Not to be too specific,  ;-)
> 
> Dean
> > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Dean J. Falcione                                   Dean's UNIX Exorcism Service 
> (using jrmst8 by permission                             "We kill daemons" 
>  of the owner, Joe McDonald)   


I'd be real surprised if the Penguins dont finish first next year. I think
I'd see it more like

Pittsburgh
Rangers
Washington
Isles (maybe 3rd!)
New Jersey
Philadelphia

   3 Cups in a row? I was stupid enough to start following this team as a 
kid during the late 70's, so I'm probably stupid enough to believe its
possible. Actually, I'm banking on the Isles to be the surprise team
in the division, with Washington being the team that doesnt challenge
as others have suggested that they will. And I still dont understand the 
Rangers, but I'll give them credit. I've lowered my Lindros expectations
after the last post that I got nailed on, put me down for 25 goals and
40 assists, and 200 PM. No more switching, I'll stick with that one.
Financially, if he does do well I've got a ton of his rookie cards, so
either way I cant lose. I'm just glad I haven't staked what the Flyers
have in him. But I dont feel sorry enough for them to boost them ahead of
New Jersey. 
   To the guy that is predicting all the Sharks for next years
awards, man I admire your courage. I've stuck with too many people you've 
never heard of and there were 2 cups at the end of the rainbow. Life, despite
all its quirks, can be very sweet at times.

An Original Member of the NIGHT OWL CLUB,
(any of you Pens fans remember??)

!eric!
From: mikem@beanpot.ma30.bull.com (Mike Machnik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Leafs new home
Date: 22 Jul 92 16:34:38 GMT
Reply-To: mikem@beanpot.ma30.bull.com (Mike Machnik)
Organization: Bull Worldwide Information Systems

In article <TsN1NB2w164w@eastern.COM>, leea@eastern.COM (Lee S. Armet) writes:
|>  The Toronto Maple Leafs could have a new home to play in as early as
|>1994. There is a proposal in to build a new multi-purpose centre at the
|>sight of the Canadian National Exhibition's Exhibition Stadium that will
|>house 20,000 fans for hockey, 24,000 for basketball, and 30,000 for music
|>concerts.

Who is paying for this and what is the projected cost?  After the SkyDome
disaster, I would be surprised to hear that they're going to come right
back and build another arena.

That's assuming one agrees SkyDome was a disaster...I think the book is out.
It could be enough of an attraction to eventually be worth it.  Plus I sure
would like to see them take advantage of that supposed capability to play
hockey inside it in front of 50,000-plus people.
--
 == Mike Machnik                     Bull HN Information Systems Inc. ==
 == 508-294-2177                     300 Concord Road   MA30-836A     ==
 == mikem@beanpot.ma30.bull.com      Billerica, MA 01821              ==
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Most impressive arena?
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 19:46:03 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.100637.242361@cs.cmu.edu> clamen+@CS.CMU.EDU writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.145408.27757@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca> golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>
>   If you have to see one hockey game anywhere in the world...that
>   place is the Montreal Forum.
>
>How much of it is due to the feeling of being in the building itself?
>What happens if and when a new Forum is built?
>

The building itself...the new Forum won't be the old Forum.

Gerald

Organization: Administrative Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:41:42 -0400 
From: "James J. Murawski" <jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Olympics in 199?
	<1992Jul29.121709.26343@brtph560.bnr.ca>
Distribution: na


On 29-Jul-92 in Re: Olympics in 199?         
user Paul Jezioranski@brtpa25 writes:
>In article <324@wavefront.wti.com>, matthew@wavefront.wti.com (Matthew
>Coohill) writes:
>> 	Does anyone know where and when the next winter olympics are
>>   to be held???
>> 
>> 	A friend of mine has informed me that they will be staggering
>>   the summer and winter Olympics and that the next winter Olympics will
>>   occur in 1994.  Maybe he's pulling my leg, but could someone reply
>>   to me at r.s.h. or my e-mail address to confirm or deny this.
> 
>	Your friend is correct. The 1994 Winter Olympics will be held in
>Lillehammer, Norway. The following Winter Olympics will be held in 1998
>at a site that, I believe, has yet to be determined.

I believe the 1998 Winter Olympics will be held in Japan.  I know the
1972 Olympics were in Sapporo, but I don't know where in Japan the 1998
Olympics will be.

====================================================================
    Jim Murawski
    Sr. Data Base Analyst               (412) 268-2650  [office]
    Administrative Systems              (412) 268-6868  [fax]
    Carnegie Mellon University          jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu
    4910 Forbes Avenue                  Office: UCC 155
    Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890