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From: std_wong@hg.uleth.ca
Subject: Ticket fm SF or Western Canada to Singapore
Reply-To: std_wong@hg.uleth.ca
Organization: University of Lethbridge
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 09:46:22 GMT

Hi,
I need a CHEAP or REASONABLE ticket fm SF or Western Canada (Vancouver
or Calgary) to Singapore or Malaysia between 12/18 to 1/12 or sometime
around that date.
Will be glad to hear from anyone who wants to sell it cheap for some
reason.

Thanks you.


Rgds,

Wenda
Newsgroups: rec.travel.marketplace
From: jog@kpc.com (Rajeev Jog)
Subject: Re: Continental coupon-$100 off
Organization: Kubota Pacific Computers Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 09:42:47 GMT

>FOR SALE --- Continental Airlines coupon:
> 
>"Save up to $100 on Continental"
> 
>The coupon is good for travel withing the 48 contiguous United States,
>must have a Sat. night stay, and can be used when a roundtrip ticket is
>purchased (any published adult fare).
> 
I have a CO coupon that will save $100 off fares of $351 or more, and less
off of other fares.  

Make offer.

-- 
Rajeev Jog
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From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: WANTED: United Airlines Award Checks
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:18:26 GMT

ernesto@crhc.uiuc.edu (Ernesto Su) wrote: 
->puerta@mcs-next-10.stanford.edu (Angel Puerta) writes:
->
->>Wanted:
->>6 United Airlines Award Checks (30,000) miles.
->
->Are UA award checks transferrable?  Just curious.

yes, but not for any compensation.  the agreement on the back of the
awardcheque which one signs to transfer it states that you will not
receive compensation for the transfer.

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From: andrew@rle-vlsi.mit.edu (Andrew Eli Grumet)
Subject: apartment exchange
Organization: Research Laboratory of Electronics, Massachusetts Institute of
	Technology
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:51:07 GMT


My girlfriend and I planning a trip to France next summer, and
I am looking for economical housing solutions.  I seem to recall
hearing about some sort of "apartment exchange" program where 
you find someone who lives where you're going and wants to 
travel to where you are, and you swap places for a while.  Does
anyone have more info about this?  Please e-mail me or post.
Thanks in advance.

--
Andrew Eli Grumet
andrew@rle-vlsi.mit.edu
From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: U.S. domestic fare wars
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:23:12
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Distribution: na
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In-reply-to: woodside@maestro.mitre.org's message of Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:07:51 GMT

mayorga@oin.cis.udel.edu (Anibal Mayorga) writes:
> Does anyone know if it is possible to buy one of these discounted tickets &
> then pay only $25 to change the dates of departure to a date that is after 
> the deadline for the discounted fare?  (ie. I need to travel BWI-SMF in 
> april but the discount is valid only if I travel before Feb-25).

The ticket will probably be issued with a "NOT VALID AFTER" date of 
FEB 25 1993, which means exactly that--the ticket is not valid after
Feb 25th and can't be reissued for a ticket after Feb 25th.

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From: kmeyer@aero.org (Kraig R. Meyer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Canadaians choosing US Airlines?
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:10:40
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
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In-reply-to: ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu's message of Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:10:32 GMT

On Thu, 12 Nov 92 15:10:32 GMT, ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole) said:
> So, this question is auimed at Canadaians.  When you are choosing airlines
> deoes nationality come into question ever?  What percentage of Canadaians
> fly on US Airlines.  For example, lets say that a Canadaian wants to fly from
> Toronto to Chicago. They coiuld fly AA, AC, or UA.  Would a Canadaian fly AC
> becaus it is AC?  If it was cheaper to fly from Montreal to Vancouver via
> Chicago on United, would someone do it?

Likewise, an interesting question would be whether U.S. citizens choose
U.S. airlines or foreign carriers when they have a choice.  There are
probably a dozen choices of carriers for Los Angeles to London, for
example.

I do most of my flying domestically.  I've gotten the impression,
correctly or incorrectly, that more people prefer the service on the
"good" European carriers over any American carriers.  (My experience on
Air Iberia was a disaster, but I'm not sure it is a "good" European
carrier).

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From: pas@cc.gatech.edu (Paulo Santos)
Subject: Re: U.S. domestic fare war  --  Part Two of the winter sale
Keywords: airfares, sale
Reply-To: pas@cc.gatech.edu (Paulo Santos)
Organization: College of Computing, Georgia Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:51:21 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.073608.3173@nic.csu.net> sulistio@sutro.SFSU.EDU (Sulistio Muljadi) writes:
>Hmmm...
>I bought a ticket to SFO from Cedar Rapids, Iowa for $450.00
>it was on Wednesday, Nov. 25, 1992 flight.. Is there a way to get a refund?
>Its $270.00 on sale...

Well, it's not easy.  The sale fares require a 14-day advance purchase.
Since it's now less than 14 days to Nov. 25, you don't qualify for the
sale fare.  Tough.  If you did, and if there were seats available at
the lower fare, they would most likely reticket and refund you the difference
minus $25.

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From: rymon@linc.cis.upenn.edu (Ron Rymon)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Layover in London-What/how to do?!
Date: 11 Nov 92 15:38:06 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


 The London tour sounds great. We were unfortunate to have a rainy day (about
every other day in London, I hear), so it was pretty unpleasant. We ended
up going back to the airport much earlier... A matter of luck I suppose...

-Ron
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From: dfinkel@sequoia.wpi.edu (David Finkel)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Credit Card for Continental FF Miles ?
Date: 5 Nov 1992 19:55:06 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA USA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak.wpi.edu

I have a Mastercard from Marine Midland Bank that gives me
mileage credits on my Continetal Frequent Flier account.  I'm sure that
if you call Continental's FF program (713) 952-1630  they will give you
info about it.

-- 
David Finkel
Department of Computer Science	       Internet:   dfinkel@cs.wpi.edu
Worcester Polytechnic Institute	       Telephone:  (508) 831-5416
Worcester, MA 01609 USA		       FAX:        (508) 831-5776
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Subject: Re: What can I do as a Premire United MP Member?
Reply-To: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Organization: E 4th St Home For The Overeducated Underemployed - Chicago Div.
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:40:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.185740.41953@watson.ibm.com> kehleyr@vnet.ibm.com writes:
>In article <1992Nov10.171125.4729@pony.Ingres.COM>, reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux) writes:
>>I am a United Airlines Milage Plus PREMIRE member because I filled
>>out this little card in Frequent Flyer magazine and I never fly United
>Is that all that is required to become a premier member?  Is there any
>cost? Are there any minimum mile requirements?  
>
>If all it takes is filling out some card, where do I get one of those cards?
>(I'm already a UA Mileage Plus member).

Normally you need to fly 25000 flight miles in a year for Premier, and
50000 flight miles per year for Executive Premier. I've never seen the
cards described  here, but I'd  imagine that United  wants  to attract
frequent flers so that's why they advertised in FF magazine.
								reb
From: phelps@redbck.stl.dec.com (steve phelps)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: AAdvantage travel
Date: 4 Nov 92 22:28:15 GMT
Reply-To: phelps@redbck.stl.dec.com (steve phelps)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


	I have some Aadvantage mileage I would like to claim for awards,
unfortunately, American no longer (as of March) fly from Australia, so I
will take awards in the US or US/Europe, in the hope that I can use them
over the next year or so.

	What ammount of flexibility is there in booking with the Plan Ahead
awards compared with the Anytime awards, ie what book ahead time is needed for
US domestic travel and US/Europe travel, and can I use a US/South America 
award for US domestic travel ?

	Is it better to take Anytime, or Plan Ahead awards - are the Plan Ahead
award seats difficult to get ?

	Any info on how to make the best use of the mileage would be 
appreciated.
From: g.myint-maung@fs4.mbs.ac.uk (Guy Myint-Maung)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Travel to Burma
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:37:16 GMT
Organization: Manchester Business School

I wish to travel to Burma during the next summer (93)
Any hints on cheap tickets & experiences there would be gratefully received.
Thanks Guy
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From: MD04MXS <MD04MXS@MUSIC.TCS.TULANE.EDU>
Subject: Re: AMEX miles for FF program?
Organization: Your MUSIC System
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 01:03:58 GMT
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-12077]: music.tcs.tulane.edu

In article <1992Nov8.223832.14633@ads.com> henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch) writes:
>hafer@apple.com (Rob Hafer) wrote:
>->
>->The cool thing is that AMEX will refund the pro-rated portion of the
>->($20-$35) additional cardmember fee (which means that this process usually
>->costs less than $5).
>
>i'm always getting offers of the sort "we'll let you add additional
>cardmembers for free" as a promo, so if you get this then you win ...
>of course, you *are* liable  for charges made on the additional
>cardmember card, so you have to be careful with this method.
>
>--
># henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
>.
But...you only have to add them as an additional cardmember. You
don't have to GIVE them the card!!!!  :)  :)  :)
>.


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From: narasim@diva.Berkeley.EDU (Narasimha Bhat)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Request for Frequent Flyer Programs
Date: 9 Nov 1992 03:26:48 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: diva.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Summary request

	Recently, there was a posting giving a summary of various
airlines' frequent flyer programs. I would appreciate it if somebody
could please send me a copy of the summary by e-mail.
 
 Thanks,

 Narasimha
 (narasim@ahimsa.Berkeley.edu)
From: adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca (andrew farmer)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Re: Canadaians choosing US Airlines?
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 14:10:20 -0500
Reply-To: adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca (andrew farmer)
Distribution: world
Organization: AFI Communications - Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole) writes:

| So, this question is auimed at Canadaians.  When you are choosing airlines
| deoes nationality come into question ever?  What percentage of Canadaians
| fly on US Airlines.  For example, lets say that a Canadaian wants to fly from
| Toronto to Chicago. They coiuld fly AA, AC, or UA.  Would a Canadaian fly AC
| because it is AC?  If it was cheaper to fly from Montreal to Vancouver via
| Chicago on United, would someone do it?

I think most people, myself included, make carrier selections based on
three basic items: cost, past expierience and reputation.

I will usually select the cheapest flight, unless one of my choices
includes an airline that I consider particularly good or particularly bad.
For instance, I wouldn't fly Air Canada even if it was offering the
cheapest tickets, because based on past expierience it's a horrible
airline to fly with.  However, I would fly with Canadian even if it was a
bit more expensive, because based on past expierience it's an excellent
airline (better than any of the US carriers).

On International flights (flights outside NA) full fare tickets are
usually the same on all airlines.  In that case, I choose the airline that
is the 'best' based on past expierience (or reputation, if my selection
doesn't included an airline I'm knowledgeable of).  For instance, flying
to continental Europe I will always select Swiss Air, with tranfers
through Zurich, if possible.

So, for me at least, nationality doesn't really come into the picture.

--
Andrew Farmer, adf@aficom.ocunix.on.ca
AFI Communications, P.O.Box 11087 Station H, Nepean ON K2H 7T8
From: jsmit@mikomtek.csir.co.za (Jacques Smit)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Multiple flights at fixed price possible in the USA?
Date: 5 Nov 92 07:17:55 GMT
Organization: MIKOMTEK, CSIR
NNTP-Posting-Host: jsmit.csir.co.za

Hi,

I intend to travel all over the USA in January '93. I have heard about a 
"Delta ticket" that, once bought, allows you to travel on a standby basis 
to/from any number of places.

Is this true and the cheapest option? Any catches? Are other airlines 
offering similar tickets? What does such a ticket cost? I have read the FAQ,
but it does not answer this one.

Many thanks
Jacques Smit

jsmit@mikomtek.csir.co.za
From: adamsf@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Discount Air Fares - for real?
Date: 10 Nov 92 13:27:41 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I have heard about "discount" places to call for air travel.  Supposedly
they are in the _travel_ section of newspapers.  Could someone help me
out on this?  Are they reputable?
              Do you really save?
              Any numbers?

I will be trveling to Seattle from Michigan (first grandchild) and need
to talk to someone other that these travel agents.  all say the same
thing and this travel stuff is new to me.

Thanks,

Fran Adams
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: kls@ohare.Chicago.COM (Karl Swartz)
Subject: Re: Reno Air and Family Air (Re: Southwest -- catch?)
Organization: Chicago Software Works
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 21:05:19 GMT

In article <CKD.92Oct30223123@loiosh.eff.org> ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
>Kraig> == Kraig R. Meyer <kmeyer@aero.org> 

> Kraig> I guess I wasn't clear.  I have no doubt that you can get 500
> Kraig> seats on a 747.  I just don't understand why you would want to
> Kraig> fly it between Los Angeles and San Francisco.

>(first class?  not too many people will pay first class prices
>between two cities that close together [except you, Karl]).

Not me.  I've only *paid* for First twice.  Once after the United
pilot strike a few years back when F was all that was available --
the rebate of half the ticket price brought the effective price to
almost the same level as cheap steerage, and the free round-trip I
got since they were overbooked made it that much better.  The other
time was an extra $100 but it got me to Mexico City in time for an
eclipse.  It was certainly worth it!

Yes, I usually do fly in First up and down the coast, but on one or
another upgrade.  Average cost is probably on the order of $10 per
SFO-LAX flight, over and above the cost of the bottom-of-the-barrel
ticket I actually paid for.  For $10, the food and drink and extra
room is worth it, even on an hour flight.  Dunno what real F costs
but I'll bet it's more like $100+ extra each way and that sure as
hell isn't worth it, IMO.

Actually I have a hard time believing that *anybody* would pay for
First unless they've got serious amounts of cash to burn or had no
choice due to lack of seats in back.  Business I can see, on an
international flight, but even there not F.  I'm not sure I've ever
sat next to anyone in F who was actually paying for it -- half the
time (on United) it's an employee, and most if not all the rest have
been others on upgrades or someone connecting to/from an international
flight where they paid for Business class, and get upgraded on the
domestic leg.

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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Subject: Re: What can I do as a Premire United MP Member?
Reply-To: reb@Ingres.COM (Phydeaux)
Organization: E 4th St Home For The Overeducated Underemployed - Chicago Div.
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:11:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.043956.16345@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole) writes:
>I am a United Airlines Milage Plus PREMIRE member because I filled
>out this little card in Frequent Flyer magazine and I never fly United
>- I stick to NW and DL because they go to where I want to go and
>United does not (LEB).  Should I go out of my way because I have
>Premir to use United.. any advice?


Premier gets  you a bonus of  25%  of actual  mileage  flown for every
flight, plus you seem to  magically make it to  the top of the standby
list should you ever get on it (you switch flights on a non-refundable
ticket, etc.)  They've  also got  seperate check-in lines for Premier.
The biggest advantage that I can see is that you can use their upgrade
coupons to  upgrade *any* published  fare 24 hours in advance  of your
flight.  Executive Premier is the next level  It's  basically the same
only  you get 100%  bonus miles (fly  1000 miles, get  2000 miles!) on
every flight and you can reserve upgrades 72hrs before your flight.

						reb
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: cathy@octel.com (Cathy Kearns)
Subject: Re: Canadaians choosing US Airlines?
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 01:03:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.151032.25499@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ncole@nyx.cs.du.edu (Noah Cole) writes:
>So, this question is aimed at Canadians.  When you are choosing airlines
>does nationality come into question ever?  What percentage of Canadians
>fly on US Airlines.  For example, lets say that a Canadian wants to fly from
>Toronto to Chicago. They coiuld fly AA, AC, or UA.  Would a Canadian fly AC
>becaus it is AC?  If it was cheaper to fly from Montreal to Vancouver via
>Chicago on United, would someone do it?

Well, I'm not Canadian, but, when flying to Canada, I'm more likely
to take Air Canada or some Canadian airline than any American Airline,
particularly Continental.  When flying to Asia, I book on Singapore Air.
When going to London, I take British Air, and when going to Australia I
take Quantas.  There is no way in the world I would take anything but
El Al into Isreal.  I have found, in general, that american airlines
have less room and service in coach than airlines from other countries.
Since I can't afford to upgrade, I go with the international carriers.
I have also found there seldom is much of a difference in price between
say, American or United to London and British Air to London, and in 
general, British Air has the better non-stops, as they don't have hubs
here.  As for El Al into Isreal, that is just for safety's sake.  I'm
concerned about hi-jackings, and after the thourough inspections I get
getting on an El Al flight makes me feel pretty safe.

							Cathy
From: nikhil@visby.apple.com (Nikhil Jayaram)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: test
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:39:44 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

just a test
From: bellutta@ohsu.EDU (Paolo Bellutta)
Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
Subject: Lockers at ORD?
Date: 9 Nov 92 18:09:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: ohsu.1992Nov9.180926.7359
Organization: Oregon Health Sciences University

Are there lockers where I could leave my luggage for a couple of days
at Chicago O'Hare?  I'll be flying through Chigaco on my way to Europe
next month and I'd like to stop in Chigago for a couple of days and
I would like to avoid dragging all my luggage along.

Please e-mail replies.

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Newsgroups: rec.travel.air
From: ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis)
Subject: Re: Air Travel in the Former Soviet Union
Organization: Electronic Frontier Foundation Tech Central
	<1992Nov6.224340.26549@alw.nih.gov> <1992Nov7.010943.18533@ads.com>
	<1992Nov7.013716.19090@ads.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 04:28:10 GMT

CB> == Charleen Bunjiovianna <charleen@ADS.COM> 

 CB> If anything, statistics on Aeroflot crashes and near-misses may
 CB> well be understated.  (Except that I think the 30-something
 CB> statistic was number of crashes, not number of midair collisions.)

Well, looking at my November AIRLINERS MONTHLY NEWS accident list, I see
a number of SSSR-registered aircraft from various ex-Aeroflot
organizations listed, including:

- Krasnoyarskavia An-12 SSSR-11896, landed 500m off runway in poor
  weather  (10 of 12 on board killed)

- Magadan Avia Mi-8 SSSR-06165, flew into hillside 199km from Zyryanka
  (3 crew, 3 pax killed)

and a number of injury and "forced landed 48km from Irkutsk [...] after
fuel starvation" type incidents.

Me?  I'd rather fly an A-320, and that's saying something.
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