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Subject: Info-IBMPC Digest V92 #173
Date: 8 Nov 92 19:26:07 GMT
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Info-IBMPC Digest           Sun,  8 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue 173 

Today's Editor:
         Gregory Hicks - Rota Spain <GHICKS@wsmr-simtel20.Army.Mil>

Today's Topics:
            Loss of Date/time and 720K formatting (V92 #167)
    Problems in adding a 2nd hard disk drive to AT clone (V92 #167)
                         Windows for MacIntosh

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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 00:19:33 CST
From: "Robert S. Walker" <RWALKER@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU>
Subject: Loss of Date/time and 720K formatting (V92 #167)

Lots of helpful people have responded to my request for help, so let
me state what the answer was -- it was simply returning to Zenith-Dos
3.3+.  The Zenith setup and configuration programs which set the
time/date and made the system recognize the floppy drive as a 720
simply would not work outside the Install program for that version of
DOS.  DOS 5's setver program had no effect at all.  So it was either
stay with DOS 5 (which was noticeably faster), but required the
date/time to be set each bootup, or go back to Zenith-Dos 3.3+.  The
floppy problem could be handled with a drivparm command in the
config.sys file.  Since several of my programs (such as a calendar
program) need that date/time, I went back to the old DOS.  By the
way, one of the three Zenith help technicians did have it right the
first time.   Thanks for all your replies.  Bob Walker

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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 08:18:10 GMT
From: driggins@sctc.af.mil
Subject: Problems in adding a 2nd hard disk drive to AT clone (V92 #167)

Regarding the second drive on the 8088 XOR machine.

On these cables with the twist, make sure your old C drive (the one
on the left as you face the computer) is the last drive on the
twisted cable.  It also must have a terminating resistor plugged in.
Make sure your D drive (the one on the right as you face the
computer) has no terminator connected.  Also, when you say you have
both drives set as DS2, do you in fact mean that each is set for the
2nd drive (some drives begin labeling with DS0 rather than DS1).

Hope this helps.
Drake

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Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 08:52:08 EST
From: (Marshall D. Abrams) <abrams@smiley.mitre.org>
Subject: Windows for MacIntosh

- - ---------------------forwarded message follows---------------

Date: Mon, 2 Nov 92 4:30:02 EST
From: MACKINNON@osse.nrl.navy.mil

I heard that Microsoft is going to come out with a version of Windows
for the MacIntosh. I can imagine what the advertisements will be:

Are you tired of the user-friendliness of your MacIntosh? Then get
Microsoft Windows for MacIntosh, featuring limited on-line help and
poor documentation! Why settle for intuitive keyboard commands when
you can have confusing F-key combinations? But don't take our word
for it--here are some satisfied customers:

"I couldn't stand all the easy drag-and-click commands on my
MacIntosh. Now I can do everything with wordy commands that only work
on one file or directory at a time!"
- -- Ralph Blernson, IBM user for 15 years 

"I hated the 'automatic startup' files. Now, I can go back to my
AUTOEXEC.BAT file and pray I've got everything set up right! Plus,
MS-Windows even disabled the Find File command, so I can search all
my directories by hand to find those utilities I lost!"
- -- Joey Boring, still using a VT-52

"What's with these 30-odd letter file names? I like MS-Windows much
better; it only lets me use eight characters! Thanks for clearing up
the confusion!"
- -- Mark Rodgers, who thinks HP calculators are easy to use 

"By using the Memory Mismanagment(TM) utility, I can have my computer
ignore the 32 MB of RAM it's got and only see 640K of it! Just like
the good old days!"
- -- Horace Kludge, using the "leading edge" of technology on his WANG 

"Multi-tasking? Who needs it? When I run a program, I want it
FINISHED before starting another one! And MS-Windows lets me do
that!"
- -- Donald Hapershnalzik, still programming in COBOL 

"All those fonts on my MacIntosh keep confusing me. But with
MS-Windows there's only one! My word processor is much easier to use
now that I have no choice on the font!"
- -- Larry Linkworm, still confused by his VCR 

"MS-Windows even disabled the control panels! Once again, my speaker
is set at full volume, and I have no choice on how the displays look!
That gives me lots more time to run the limited programs that work
under Windows!"
- -- Marty Halfgear, who is fascinated by bright and shiny objects 

And look at the other options available: 

* Non-standard keyboard commands. It's much more fun to learn new
commands with each new program you get, right?

* Different system requirements for each program, requiring a reboot
each time!

* The "3.3" option, which forces you to partition your hard drive
into 10MB segments!

* Limited mouse support

Ms-Windows for MacIntosh. For De-Evolutionary people.

mackinnon@osse.nrl.navy.mil

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