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From: robert@slipknot.rain.com (Robert Reed)
Subject: Oregon Renaissance Band
Organization: Home Animation Ltd.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 22:55:05 GMT

			So trinken wir alle!

		Music from the time of Martin Luther

		     THE OREGON RENAISSANCE BAND


		Music of Renaissance Germany performed in
		period dress on vielles, recorders, lute,
		sackbutts, harp, corna musen, racketts,
		alphorns, dulcian, bells and percussion.


	Friday, January 8th, 7:30pm in Salem
	  First United Methodist Church, corner of Church and State

	Saturday, January 9th, 8pm in Portland
	  Kempton hall, Trinity Episcopal Church, 147 NW 19th.

Admission: $7 general, $6 seniors, students, members of the Early Music Guild of
  Oregon

The Oregon Renaissance Band is an ensemble dedicated to the authentic
performance of 15th, 16th and 17th century music.  The band plays strings,
brass, woodwinds and a wide variety of percussion instruments in period costume
under the direction of Philip and Gayle Neumann from the ensemble De
Organographia.  ORB brings together the unique talents of Oregon's finest
Renaissance musicians for a season of outstanding, unusual music, with great
commentary.  Join ORB for its second exciting season.
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From: mikeq@freddy.CNA.TEK.COM (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: or.general
Subject: Re: Oregon Vortex
Date: 7 Jan 93 20:21:56 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.

In article <1993Jan07.192227.5223@news.mentorg.com> mikelo@cecil.mentorg.com (Mike Lottridge) writes:
>Supposedly, there's some point in Oregon where your ability to judge
>perspective and distance gets distorted (actually, I've noticed this
>after leaving McMenamins on occasion). Does anyone know what the story
>is here, and where this place is?

It's a tourist attraction located outside of Gold Hill (near Grants Pass).
People say it's an optical illusion based upon how the buildings
are constructed. Looked real to me, though!

Mike
From: mikeq@freddy.CNA.TEK.COM (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: or.general
Subject: Re: Overnights in Snow Parks
Keywords: snow park
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:33:44 GMT
Distribution: or
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.

In article <1993Jan6.183656.26451@ichips.intel.com> johnb@ichips.intel.com (John Bauer) writes:
>
>Has anyone left their vehicles overnight in an Oregon
>'designated snow park area'?  (Why, I wanna go snow campin'!)
>And still had their vehichle there the next day,
>non-towed and non-ticketed and non-clouted?
>Thanks -

I've been leaving my vehicle overnight(s) in snow park areas for years
without problems (except for digging out after being bermed by a plow!), 
even in areas posted no overnight parking.

Of course, there may come a time....

Two tips: Never park under a plow cornice (even a small one), nor in an
area that will receive the outfall from a rotary plow (smashed windows!).

Mike
From: scott@hpcvccl.cv.hp.com (Scott Linn)
Newsgroups: or.general
Subject: Re: Oregon Vortex
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:38:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvca.1993Jan7.233820.3508
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

alanj@endeavor18.tek.com (Alan Jeddeloh) writes:
: Basically, its a tourist trap of the old school.  There's a house (cabin)
: there that was build with all sorts of wierd angle and sloping floors to
: present all sorts of optical illusions.  Your brain can get confused when
: what the eyes present do not correlate with the rest of the senses.

I had heard that the cabin used to be a mining assay office, and that it
slid down the hill a ways during a mudslide, coming to rest all screwed
up.  Then, later, it was made into an attraction.

Scott Linn
scott@hpcvccl.cv.hp.com
Newsgroups: or.general
From: robert@slipknot.rain.com (Robert Reed)
Subject: Re: Oregon Vortex
Reply-To: robert@slipknot.rain.com.UUCP (Robert Reed)
Organization: Home Animation Ltd.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:36:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan07.192227.5223@news.mentorg.com> mikelo@cecil.mentorg.com (Mike Lottridge) writes:
|There was a tv program about this a few days ago, but I missed it. 
|Supposedly, there's some point in Oregon where your ability to judge
|perspective and distance gets distorted (actually, I've noticed this
|after leaving McMenamins on occasion). Does anyone know what the story
|is here, and where this place is?

It is just off the freeway between Grants Pass and Medford.  Like many other
places around the country (e.g. Confusion Hill on US 101 South of Garberville
CA), this place rakes in the dough by providing viewers with a "natural
phenomenon" implemented though a collection of carefully (or not so carefully)
constructed forced perspectives that give the viewer the impression that the
laws of gravity are somehow being violated.  The Oregon Vortex in particular is
located at the site of an old ore assay office from the last century.  One
corner of the build has fallen 12 feet and there are various stations around the
grounds which exhibit peculiar perception tricks.
________________________________________________________________________________
Robert Reed			Home Animation Ltd.		503-656-8414
robert@slipknot.rain.com	5686 First Court, West Linn, OR 97068

I am getting into abstract painting.  Real abstract--no brush, no canvas, I
just think about it.  
--Steve Wright 
________________________________________________________________________________
From: johnb@ichips.intel.com (John Bauer)
Newsgroups: or.general
Subject: Overnights in Snow Parks
Keywords: snow park
Date: 6 Jan 93 18:36:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: ichips.1993Jan6.183656.26451
Distribution: or
Organization: La Casa Blanca, Hillsboro, Oregon

I'm not getting a clear answer from the OSP on this subject, so
if anyone can offer their experience, I'd appreciate it.

Has anyone left their vehicles overnight in an Oregon
'designated snow park area'?  (Why, I wanna go snow campin'!)
And still had their vehichle there the next day,
non-towed and non-ticketed and non-clouted?
Thanks -

-- 
 John Bauer                             "I speak only for myself."
 Intel Corp., M/S JF1-19                E-mail: johnb@ichips.intel.com 
 5200 N.E. Elam Young Parkway           Phone:  (503) 696-4444
 Hillsboro, Oregon 97124               
Newsgroups: or.general
From: robert@slipknot.rain.com (Robert Reed)
Subject: Re: Carry automobile proof-of-insurance in Portland
Reply-To: robert@slipknot.rain.com.UUCP (Robert Reed)
Organization: Home Animation Ltd.
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 01:21:27 GMT

In article <1ikt32INNbri@newz.ens.tek.com> Ron.C.Kirkpatrick@tek.com writes:
|
|BTW, did anyone ever stop and consider - the 'proof of insurance' only proves
|that you were billed for the insurance, not that you paid for it or even that
|you did not cancel the insurance.

That's generally true, but it only gives you an extra 6 months of "coverage"
since if you've cancelled or failed to pay, you're not going to get another one
in six months.
________________________________________________________________________________
Robert Reed			Home Animation Ltd.		503-656-8414
robert@slipknot.rain.com	5686 First Court, West Linn, OR 97068

DISORDER IN THE COURT

Q Just what did you do to prevent the accident?
A I closed my eyes and screamed as loud as I could.
________________________________________________________________________________
From: pelinkad@elcsci.com
Newsgroups: or.test
Subject: test
Date: 6 Jan 93 12:55:23 PST
Organization: Electro Scientific Industries, Portland OR

This is a test. I'm trying to determine if our news is getting out...
From: sharvy@reed.edu (V Headshape)
Newsgroups: or.politics
Subject: Re: Packwood's Indiscretions
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:20:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1993Jan12.012023.7846
Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon

In article <1992Dec19.135139.1828@elcsci.com> towel@elcsci.com (Big Wilber) writes:
>I think the voters are getting exactly what they deserve.  they were
>stupid enough to re-elect him, surely they won't recall him, most,
>probably aren't even vaguely aware of the situation.

They're getting exactly what they deserve. It makes the passage of
term-limits even more hilarious. If only the voters had done of their
own free-will exactly what they voted to have the government force
them to do (not re-elect people to multiple terms), they wouldn't have
this problem. People are so stupid. Democracy is just an amusing way to
pass the time until philosphers are kings.
-- 
Liberate the Weirdoes and You Liberate the Squares
Newsgroups: or.politics
From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Packwood's Indiscretions
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:05:02 GMT

stever@crosstalk.tv.tek.com (Steven E. Rice  P.E.) writes:

>* P.S.: Be realistic, all you rabid pro-Les-ers out there!  If you or I
>        had written a check for over $10,000 on a bank account which
>        didn't contain anywhere near that amount, we would have wound up
>        in the Gray Bar Hotel.  This fact was not lost on ORDINARY CITIZENS
>        (whom you won't hear much from on the net, but who keep this
>        state functioning).

>        I went downtown in Portland a few days before the election to pick
>        up a furnace switch.  While at the store (a heating supply business
>        that normally sells to contractors, but will deal with private
>        individuals on a cash-and-carry basis), the men that were there
>        to pick up supplies were *very* vocal about their anger over the
>        favoritism shown to Les AuCoin and the other House members.  They
>        understood full well they would go to jail for the same acts that
>        Les AuCoin got away with.

I would also like to add that for Les AuCoin, he was looking for a double dip
in terms of pay, since his pension from his man years already spent in federal
government DISservice is quite fat.  Les really had nothing to lose by losing
to Packwood.  I for one don't believe for a minute that Les will stay out of
the race the next time around.  In fact, I wouldn't be suprised if he runs
for the position again with 'experience' as his theme song.  sigh . . . 

allen
Newsgroups: or.politics
From: allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren)
Subject: Re: Packwood's Indiscretions
Organization: Test Systems Strategies, Inc., Beaverton, Oregon
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:36:47 GMT

sharvy@reed.edu (V Headshape) writes:

>In article <1992Dec19.135139.1828@elcsci.com> towel@elcsci.com (Big Wilber) writes:
>>I think the voters are getting exactly what they deserve.  they were
>>stupid enough to re-elect him, surely they won't recall him, most,
>>probably aren't even vaguely aware of the situation.

Where do you POSSIBLY get all your information?  Oregon had record turnout
at the voting booths.  Also, given what Packwood had done in terms of
legislation in the past, and given that his opponent (Les AuCoin) was not
necessarily marketed as lily-white and so much better than Packwood (even
though I did vote for AuCoin), and given that Packwood *supposedly* suppressed
the harrassment allegations before the election, how can you possibly say that
"the voters are getting exactly what they deserve"?  As for a recall, we
Oregonians cannot recall a federal government elected official, only state
elected officials.  Do you live in Oregon?  I'm suspecting that you do not,
else your comments would be different.

>They're getting exactly what they deserve. It makes the passage of
>term-limits even more hilarious. If only the voters had done of their
>own free-will exactly what they voted to have the government force
>them to do (not re-elect people to multiple terms), they wouldn't have
>this problem. People are so stupid. Democracy is just an amusing way to
>pass the time until philosphers are kings.

If people would really take the time to study the issues and vote, we *might*
not have those that do vote try to enact legislation to force term limits.
Sometimes I wish we were like Australia, where everyone is automatically
registered to vote and Australians take great pride in voting.  Here in the
States, we make people just about jump through hoops and tapdance in trying
to register to vote.  Also, too many Americans believe their vote doesn't even
count . . . that they don't have any effect on government, so why bother?
It's sad that our government is so far removed from the people it's supposed
to be serving.

allen
Newsgroups: or.politics
From: jamesd@techbook.com (James Deibele)
Subject: Re: Packwood's Indiscretions
Organization: TECHbooks --- Public Access UNIX --- (503) 220-0636
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 02:47:08 GMT

allen@tessi.com (Allen Warren) writes:

>If people would really take the time to study the issues and vote, we *might*
>not have those that do vote try to enact legislation to force term limits.

OK, agree with you here.  But then if people would only be nice to one
another.  And stop smoking.  And drinking and driving.  And take care of 
their children.  And practice safe sex.  And ...

>Sometimes I wish we were like Australia, where everyone is automatically
>registered to vote and Australians take great pride in voting.  Here in the

Uhhh.  Unless things have changed recently, Australians are <fined> if 
they don't vote.  That's right, they're not only automatically
registered to vote, they have to vote --- or else.

Sorry, I don't agree that this is the way to go.  And I understand what
you're saying about the way registration winnows the voters into those
who care and those who don't.  I'm all for the "Rock the Vote" and
registration booths in malls, but if people can't be bothered to
register to vote a few days ahead of the election, they shouldn't be
voting anyway.

The problem with so many of the issues on the ballot is complete lack of
information.  It's important that we have good judges, but I confess to
spending little or no time in elections looking at qualifications.  Some
of the bond issues sound reasonable, though it's hard to tell sometimes.

Ross Perot is big on the idea of an "electronic town hall".  It'd be
nice if next election some of the politicians and people who pay
attention to them (different activist groups, journalists, etc.) could
be tempted online ...

--
jamesd@techbook.COM                   "2291 newsgroups & nothing on ..."  
PDaXs gives free access to news & mail. (503) 220-0636 - 1200/2400, N81  
Full internet (ftp, telnet, irc) access available. Voice: (503) 223-4245
From: mikeq@freddy.CNA.TEK.COM
Newsgroups: or.politics
Subject: Pack it in, Bob.
Date: 12 Jan 93 19:27:54 GMT
Distribution: or
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.

Anyone know where I can get one of these bumper stickers?

Mike
From: jhurst@amb4.ccalmr.ogi.edu (James Hurst)
Newsgroups: or.politics
Subject: Packwood jokes, Anyone?
Summary: Bob Plywood, office scourge
Keywords: Where's Bob?
Date: 5 Jan 93 18:06:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.48062
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Stumpy and the clearcuts

Well, Senator Plywood's gone and got everybody in a snit again, and I must
say it couldn't happen to a more deserving guy.  My guess is that he'll be 
harder to kill than a cockroach in a corner, but if we're stuck with him we
might as well make the best of it.  Here are the only Packwood jokes I know,
hopefully the net can come up with a few better:


	What's the recipe for Packwood soup?

	A little weenie in a lot of hot water.


	What does Bob Packwood do when an abortion bill reaches his desk?

	He pays it.


				Cheers,

				Jim
Newsgroups: or.forsale
From: roman.yarish@rose.com (roman yarish)
Subject: Telescope wanted
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Distribution: or
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:48:45 GMT
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Date Entered: 01-05-93 15:41

Wanted telescope - (Schmidt-Cassegrains type)
I would prefer one made by "Meade" or "Celestron", however I will consider
other ones. Please state model no., condition, access.. etc.
Can pay cash or trade?

roman.yarish@rose.com
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From: petel@sequent.com (Pete Lancashire)
Newsgroups: or.forsale,pdx.forsale,pnw.forsale,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: FORSALE: COMPUTER OLDIES: IBM 029, Teletype ASR35
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:39:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1993Jan7.233919.7651
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.

The last of my collection is about to go....

The IBM 029 (Might be a 129, just can't get to it right now) needs
new belts, other than that it is in exec. shape. Can even toss in
a box of cards.

The Teletype is the loaded model, even has the printing punch. Currently
wired as a TWX terminal, but very easy to change. It to is very clean.
Don't you remember using one for more than 1/2 an hour and how warm they
got :-). And the noise, nothing will ever replace it.

Now here is the problem, I don't want much if they can goto a good home,
and not get scrapped. BUT they weigh a lot, don't have the real numbers
right now but both are over UPS, I remeber the 029 is about 250 lbs and
the ASR35 about 300 !!! But it has been a long time since I moved them.

-pete
petel@sequent.com
From: arnief@sail.LABS.TEK.COM (Arnie Frisch)
Newsgroups: tek.forsale,or.forsale
Subject: Volvo 740 GLE Wagon
Keywords: Super Deal
Date: 9 Jan 93 15:54:37 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: or
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.


1990 White Volvo GLE Wagon - absolutely loaded, msrp $30,0000.

High performance 16 valve engine - performs better than a turbo, super
reliability.

Automatic.  Anti-lock brakes.  Electric sun-roof.  High end optional
AM/FM stereo sound system.  Leather upholstery, heated seats, etc.,
etc.

46,500 miles.  Has had 50,000 service already - new brakes, timing belt
and tensioner.  Two new studded snow tires on car.

No dings or dents.  $17,000 firm.


We need to go to 4wd because of elevation and snow.

Arnie Frisch
627-7544 W
297-9676 H

Newsgroups: or.forsale,pdx.forsale
From: davidh@swallow.ims.com (David Hartman)
Subject: american airlines ticket
Reply-To: davidh@swallow.ims.com
Organization: Integrated Measurement Systems
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 22:42:35 GMT


---
I have one round trip ticket from Miami Florida to Portland Oregon for sale.
It origanaly sold for $350, I would like to get $200 for it. Make me an offer.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

"Unfortunately, this assault weapon issue is a symbolic issue that doesn't 
at all address crime" Tony Meeker, State Treasurer, Oregon.

David Hartman 
Davidh@ims.com

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Newsgroups: or.forsale
From: kenr@cabezon.uucp (Ken Richards)
Subject: Aquarium For Sale
Organization: Logic Modeling Corporation of Beaverton Oregon
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:23:05 GMT

 
For sale:

20 gallon aquarium (all glass)

Includes stand, hood, under-gravel filter, and power head.


        $100.00


Call Ken at 223-2322



-- 
___________________________________________________________________________
   Ken Richards        |                | It's tragic that families can be 
 Logic Modeling Corp   |  kenr@lmc.com  | torn apart by something as simple
                       |                | as wild dogs.
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From: ellis@daffodil.LABS.TEK.COM (Cynthia Ward)
Newsgroups: or.forsale,pdx.forsale,tek.forsale
Subject: Items that are already sold
Date: 6 Jan 93 01:00:28 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: or


I have already sold the following items (so please, no more phone
calls or e-mail!):

	* 19" Zenith TV
	* Oakley sunglasses
	* PFS:WindowWorks

Thanks for your interest so far!


Cindy
Newsgroups: or.forsale
From: kenr@cabezon.uucp (Ken Richards)
Subject: Love Seat For Sale
Organization: Logic Modeling Corporation of Beaverton Oregon
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:21:26 GMT

 
For sale:

Comfy love seat.

Tag says color is "Fantasy Taupe" what ever that is.
In any event, it's good looking and in good shape.

        $125.00


Call Ken at 223-2322


-- 
___________________________________________________________________________
   Ken Richards        |                | It's tragic that families can be 
 Logic Modeling Corp   |  kenr@lmc.com  | torn apart by something as simple
                       |                | as wild dogs.
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From: ellis@daffodil.LABS.TEK.COM (Cynthia Ward)
Newsgroups: or.forsale,pdx.forsale,tek.forsale
Subject: Four HP 700/41 terminals for sale - $50 ea.
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:36:15 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: or


Someone gave my husband four HP 700/41 terminals as a Christmas present!
They are in good condition; we even have two additional new keyboards
for them. They support up to 38.4K baud on their serial connections.

These terminals come with built-in emulation for: TVI910+, TVI925E,
TVI905, ADDSVP, QVT101, Hazeltine1500, ADM3A, ADM5, and WYSE30.
$50/ea., with considerable leeway if you take all four.


Cindy
627-6680 (work phone)
From: steveh@amadeus.wr.tek.com (Steve Huss)
Newsgroups: or.forsale
Subject: Vanagon camping gear
Date: 5 Jan 93 23:21:49 GMT
Distribution: or
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.



I have removed the main cabinet from my Vanagon camper. It contains a
Dometic fridge that is propane/12V powered, a two burner stove, a sink
and shelves for gear. This would be great for someone converting their 
Vanagon as the cabinet would bolt right in. I am willing to sell the 
fridge separately for ~$200 or the whole unit for ~$350.

Other misc items for sale:

Exercise trampoline (3.5' diameter)...$15.00


75 sq feet of parquet wood flooring...$65.00
Newsgroups: or.forsale
From: roman.yarish@rose.com (roman yarish)
Subject: Telescope Wanted
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Distribution: or
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:21:28 GMT
X-Gated-By: Usenet <==> RoseMail Gateway (v1.70)


Date Entered: 01-08-93 10:12

Wanted telescope: prefer "schmit-cassegrain" type 
something like the ones made by "Meade" or "Celestron"
however will consider others.

roman.yarish@rose.com
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From: ellis@daffodil.LABS.TEK.COM (Cynthia Ward)
Newsgroups: or.forsale,pdx.forsale,tek.forsale
Subject: Falcon AT game for sale - $7.50/best offer
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:39:20 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: or


This is the version of Falcon that can be played on a 286 machine
(the newest version requires a 386 and a whole lot of memory). 
$7.50/best offer.


Cindy
627-6680 (work phone)
From: henrya@ucs.orst.edu (Jean-Luc Picard)
Newsgroups: or.forsale
Subject: Diamond for sale
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:21:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1ihl9kINNk15
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucs.orst.edu

Diamond for sale - Round cut

SI - VS2 clarity, L color
1.09 ct.

$2000 or best offer

e-mail me to set time and place to view diamond if even a tad interested
in purchase!  You'll fall in love with it!
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From: al@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Alan Peterman)
Newsgroups: or.forsale,pdx.forsale
Subject: Studded Snows on Honda Rims & Chains Forsale
Date: 8 Jan 93 17:27:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1993Jan8.172708.8262
Distribution: or
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

We've got a pair of 185/70-13 studded snows on Honda rims.  Perfect
for most Civics, 81-86 Preludes and pre 85 Accords.  Good shape,
several winters left on them.   $50 obo.

Also 2 sets of chains for 13 inch tires.  One set unused, other
set just once.  $7 either set.


-- 
Alan L. Peterman                                 (503)-684-1984 hm & work
                       al@qiclab.scn.rain.com
It's odd how as I get older, the days are longer, but the years are shorter!
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