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From: chris@triage.UUCP (Wheres my 650TT2 Ducati)
Subject: Inventory clearance sale... Computer Stuff
Organization: Triage Corp
Distribution: pdx
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 16:04:30 GMT

Just in time for Christmas, I have the following items to sell:

5	full size 286 motherboards with 512K RAM
1	baby 286 motherboard with 512K RAM
8	Monographic/printer card - Windbond chip
1	PTI 209 DTK 4 port I/O card
2	PTI 210 DTK 4 port I/O card
4	PTI 151 DTK floppy disk controller card
2	PTI 158 DTK floppy disk controller card
1	PTI 201
2	512K 80ns RAM sets
2	1 meg SIP 80ns RAM package

2	Z-NIX Super Mouse II
1	Dexxa Mouse
1	GTK VGA 16bit card
4	Western Digital network interface cards - Ethernet plus (AUI/BNC)
3	DEC DEPCA ethernet boards
1	Oculus card
3	TOPS Network Flash cards
2	Flash card Tele-connectors (TOPS)

1	Boxed SCSI device driver and s/w (DTC board)

20	DEC ethernet 10ft signal cable w/ connectors and terminators
10	Probe Tech packaged device socket card
1	Fresh Tech IMS XL2 cable interface board

2	Montographic monitor
17	Unassembled LCS prober bay rack mounts
6	Assembled LCS rack mounts



ALL - make offer

Call me during business hours at 297-5230 for more information
or to make an offer on the bits and pieces you require.


Christopher Perez - chris@triage.rain.com
From: fanglu@mse.ogi.edu (Lu Fang)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Queen Size Water Bed for Sale
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:08:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47461
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Material Science & Engineering


		Water Bed for Sale

    We have a dark wood queen size water bed for sale.  It 
consists of a head baord, a box, a matrix (not waveless type), 
and a heater kit.  Everything works fine.  Asking for $55/OBO.  
Send mail to this account.  Thank you.
From: wendy@cvedc.prime.com (Wendy Allen)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Acoustic Guitar for sale
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:07:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: cvedc.1992Dec17.190741.5225
Followup-To: wendy@cvedc.prime.com
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Computervision Beaverton Oregon

Yamaha aucoustic guitar...

Great Sound very full. 

Will part with for $400.


wendy@cvedc.prime.com

690-7860 (day)
224-5270 (eve)
From: stefanus@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Stefanus Moniaga)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Furniture FOR SALE
Keywords: Furniture
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:04:09 GMT
Distribution: pdx


MOVING SALE !!, Everything must go by this week.


* Living room furniture:
	Sofa, Love seat, table, and 2 end-table (1 with glass on top). $ 400.00

* Bedroom furniture:
	9 drawer dresser with mirror, 2 night stand (with 2 drawers).. $ 250.00

	Queen size mattress, box spring .............................. $  60.00

* Dining room furniture:
	1 round dining room table with 4 chairs ...................... $  40.00
	

These furnitures are around three years old.


Please call me at 644-3836 as I do not check this account frequently.


Steve.

--

 _______________________________________________________________________
|                                                                       |
|                           Stefanus Moniaga                            |
From: wendy@cvedc.prime.com (Wendy Allen)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: telescope
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:00:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: cvedc.1992Dec17.200018.6218
Followup-To: wendy@cvedc.prime.com
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Computervision Beaverton Oregon


Meade 60mm Refracting Telescope

$120 obo.....


wendy@cvedc.prime.com
690-7860 (day)
224-5270 (eve)
From: wendy@cvedc.prime.com (Wendy Allen)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: telescope
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:18:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: cvedc.1992Dec14.151807.25854
Followup-To: wendy@cvedc.prime.com
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Computervision Beaverton Oregon

Meade 60mm refracting telescope.
asking for $150 obo.

call wendy 224-5270 (home)
           690-9867 (work)
From: bennys@cvedc.prime.com (Benny Sadeh)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: TOYOTA CORROLA '78 FOR SALE
Keywords: CAR TOYOTA
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:55:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: cvedc.1992Dec14.155507.26853
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Computervision R&D, Beaverton OR

TOYOTA CORROLA for Sale:

131K miles
2 Door Liftback
Gray color

rusty look, but runs perfectly: graet mechnical condition!

I am asking for $600, OBO.

Benny, 224-5270


please call, do not email.
From: ford@sequent.com (Carole Ford)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: CAR FOR SALE
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:58:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Dec16.195841.9940
Distribution: or
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.





                           CAR FOR SALE


          1981 OLD'S 88 ROYAL


               - NEW TIRES

               - V8

               - 4 SPEED WITH OVERDRIVE

               - POWER TRUNK, DOORS, DRIVERS SEAT

               - CLEAN IN & OUT

               - RUNS GOOD & LOOKS GOOD

           $1200 OR BEST OFFER  {MUST SELL}

        CALL 641-9157
From: ignoffo@vcd.hp.com (John Ignoffo)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: HP Graphics Terminals 4 Sale
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:30:30 GMT
Article-I.D.: vcd.Bz43Mu.3s
Organization: HP Vancouver
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1b2

I have two older HP Graphics terminals for sale.  Take 1 or both.  Here's
the
scoop:

   HP 2647A  Graphics Terminal         $25.00
   HP 2648A  Graphics Terminal         $25.00           $45 for both 
   Cables and a few extra boards  included.
   Sorry, NO manuals
   These terminals do work and both have tape units.  I have a few
   tape cassettes you can have, too.

    Cash & Carry.  Shipping not included.   You can pick-up.

-  John Ignoffo

e-mail:   ignoffo@vcd.hp.com

Phone:    (206) 944-2449   days
              (206) 254-5800   eves
From: wendy@cvedc.prime.com (Wendy Allen)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: thule ski/bike rack
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:02:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: cvedc.1992Dec16.000206.14607
Followup-To: windsurfing phone number...
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Computervision Beaverton Oregon

Here is same message with phone number

Windsurfing equipment....

9 1/2ft board mistral diamonhead....I put my own paint job on it.
                                    very cool.

Quiver of Sails  Low End Gastra-made sails.....I paid $150 a piece
used for 1/2 season all in excellent shape.
3.2 m
3.9 m
4.2 m

Chinook Adjustable Boom.

2 masts....

Would be an excellent set up for someone just beginning to sail
in the gorge.  Every thing necessary.  For only $900......


Also

Women's large or size 12 wet/dry suits


Bare Dry Suit  $150
HotLine Long Sleeve Fall Suit (like new) $150
HotLine Shortie (like new) $75

wendy@cvedc.prime.com

690-9860 (day)
224-5270 (eve)
From: rast@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Keith D Rast)
Newsgroups: tek.forsale,pdx.forsale
Subject: Snow Tires P185/60-R14
Date: 11 Dec 92 22:37:46 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

Yokohama P185/60-R14 studded snow tires
mounted on steel wheels with 110mm bolt circle.

They were used for two seasons and have a lot of
good tread left.

$60.00

Keith Rast
rast@icogem3.ICO.TEK.COm
wk 627-4055
hm (206)253-4837
From: zongli@admin.ogi.edu (Zongli Luo)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: 1978 DATSUN 810
Date: 15 Dec 92 02:52:16 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47265
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute

1978 Datsun 810

4D Sedan, silver, AC, Recent DEQ tag, 132k, good condition, asking for 
only $850, contact zongli at 641-8861 or 690-1133.
 
Xref: sparky pdx.forsale:3265 or.forsale:2118 misc.forsale:33357 pnw.forsale:2394
From: netops@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Randy King)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale,or.forsale,tek.forsale
Subject: ranger
Keywords: ford
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:46:14 GMT
Followup-To: pdx.forsale
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

1983 Ford Ranger. 4cyl, 4sp. short bed.

$2150.00

Call 685-4308.
From: debbj@sequent.com (Debbie Johnson)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Kids Ski Boots for sale
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:13:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Dec14.191309.3091
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

My two boys have outgrown their ski boots after 2 seasons, so we must part
with them (sigh).  They are in excellent condition, probably only used
10-12 times.

	SIZES 10 and 12 -- price $20/pair.
	
My work number is 578-3767 & home 629-8625.


Debbie Johnson
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale,sqnt-public.forsale
From: dale@sequent.com (Dale Mosby)
Subject: 175 SR 14 studded tires and rims
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Distribution: pdx
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 18:22:36 GMT

I have four studded tires mounted on rims for sale at $5 each.
Tire size is 175 SR 14, radials.  The rims were mounted on
a 1977 AMC Hornet, I'm not sure what else they fit but have
a 5 bolt pattern. 

Three if the tires are in good shape and one is worn from
mis-alignment.  So you get 4 rims and 3 good tires all for $20.
(I'm only selling as a package deal.)  You pick up in Hillsboro.
Note that after winter you can pull out the studs and have
good non-studded tires if desired.

I know $20 is a ridiculously low price, so feel free to offer me
lots more so as to not feel so bad about taking advantage of me.

Phone: Work: 578-9842, Home: 640-0217.
(On vacation after Dec. 18, so use home number after today.)


-- 
  dale@sequent.com         OR      uunet!sequent!dale
  Dale Mosby   503-578-9842  N7PEX  // Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
  15450 SW Koll Parkway             // Beaverton, Or.  97006-6063
From: wendy@cvedc.prime.com (Wendy Allen)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: dry suit, shortie, and wet suit
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:10:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: cvedc.1992Dec14.151032.25379
Organization: Computervision R&D, Beaverton OR

women's size 12 dry suit $125
women's L shortie  like new $75
women's L wet suit (fall weather)  like new $140


call wendy 224-5270 (home)
           690-7867 (work)
From: fanglu@mse.ogi.edu (Lu Fang)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Water Bed for Sale
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:49:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47266
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Material Science & Engineering


		Water Bed for Sale

    We have a dark wood water bed for sale.  It consists of a 
head baord, a box, a matrix (not waveless type), and a heater kit.  
Everything works fine.  Asking for $55/OBO.  Send mail to this 
account.  Thank you.
From: davidn@amadeus.wr.tek.com (Dave Nelson)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Doves & Coffee maker forsale
Date: 15 Dec 92 16:16:05 GMT
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

Hi Everyone,

I'm posting this for my mother-in-law don't respond via e-mail.

Doves
  -2 white females
  -1 grey male
  -includes cage and feeding dishes
  -$20.00

Espresso/Coffee maker--Krups(white)
  -has two sections/caraffes
  -New sells for $150 asking $75

If interested in these call (503)644-6019.
From: wendy@cvedc.prime.com (Wendy Allen)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: sewing machine
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:23:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: cvedc.1992Dec17.192308.5661
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Computervision Beaverton Oregon

Sears Kenmore Sewing Machine

button holer
several fancy stiching patterns
free arm.

$75 obo


wendy@cvedc.prime.com
690-7860 (day)
224-5270 (eve)
From: jimk@slc.com (Jim Kenney)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: WANTED: EGA monitor and card for PC/AT
Date: 14 Dec 92 23:55:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: slc.1992Dec14.235543.5040
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Servio Corp, Beaverton Oregon, US

Lets try this again...

I am looking to upgrade my PC AT clone from monochrome to color
for Christmas.  This is a cheap system and will be replaced or will
become my daughter's homework/games machine so I do not want to spend a
lot of money (like for the 17 inch SVGA I really want on a 486 I will
get someday).

So, anyone have an EGA and display card left over from your upgrade?
I would like to spend less than $150 but it is more important to have
a reliable unit with all the docs and disks.

CGA is NOT good enough.

Send e-mail to   jimk@slc.com
Phone (503) 682-2161 (home) after 5:30 pm
or post here if you can not get to me any other way.


Thanks,


Jim Kenney   jimk@slc.com
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
From: chris@triage.UUCP (Wheres my 650TT2 Ducati)
Subject: ATTEN: Gent that called about the 16bit WD ethernet boards...
Organization: Triage Corp
Distribution: pdx
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:07:49 GMT

Would the gentleman running BSD Unix that called me about 2 Elite Plus 16
cards call me at

 297-5230

if he is still interested in purchasing them?

Christopher Perez - chris@triage.rain.com
From: wendy@cvedc.prime.com (Wendy Allen)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: cherry shaker bedroom set
Date: 15 Dec 92 23:46:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: cvedc.1992Dec15.234601.14414
Followup-To: wendy@cvedc.prime.com
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Computervision Beaverton Oregon

Cherry Shaker Style frame. 
will fit futon or convention bed.

Two cherry side tables.

$1200 obo.

wendy@cvedc.prime.com

wendy 690-9860 (day)
      224-5270 (evening)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale,tek.forsale,misc.forsale
From: djd@soul.tv.tek.com (Doug Doornink)
Subject: Snow Tires For Sale
Originator: djd@soul.tv.tek.com
Organization: Television Systems Division, Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton, OR
Distribution: pdx
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:29:06 GMT

For Sale:
STUDDED SNOW TIRES for a VOLVO:

Don't wait till it's too late!
We are going to have Winter this year.

I have two almost new 185SR14 Studded Snow tires 
mounted on factory 240 Volvo wheels. 
These tires were only used for one month two years ago. 
(remember the ice, I do!).

You can have both tires for $150.

Call Doug or Jody Doornink at 245-5622.
If no answer try 627-2325 during the day.
From: wendy@cvedc.prime.com (Wendy Allen)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: touring bike
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:28:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: cvedc.1992Dec15.002859.346
Followup-To: wendy@cvedc.prime.com
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Computervision Beaverton Oregon


trek 1420.. light blue. (call for details) about 1200 miles.

avocet 40 computer.

bike shorts and jerseys. and other accessories.
all women's size 12 or large.

call for details

wendy 224-5270 (home)
      690-9867 (work)
From: bill@sequent.com (Bill Hasan)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: video gear forsale
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:13:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Dec17.161317.27668
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.


I have a Videonics TitleMaker and Video Equalizer for sale. Both of these
components have only been used for two months (I needed them to help edit
18 hours of home movies down to VHS tape, this was cheaper than spending
$300-$700 dollars for a professional service to do it). 

The TitleMaker has many different types of fonts, sizes, colors (all
fonts have smooth edges). Many different wipes and background images. It
also has S-video in/out.

The Equalizer has a sound mixer for 3 sources, enhancer for video noise
and sharpness. You can control contrast,brightness, color, and tint. You
can also control the 3 primary colors (red, green, blue). This unit also
has a special effects function, in which you can turn the image to
black/white and use the paintbrush feature to add color.

Both units come with original boxes and manuals.

I'll sell the TitleMaker for $340 (paid $379) and the
Equalizer for $220 (paid $260).

Home 641-6938
Work 578-9899
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
From: dclemans@mentorg.com (Dave Clemans)
Subject: Stereo VCR For Sale
Summary: 
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:30:51 GMT
Organization: Mentor Graphics Corporation
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Keywords: 

For Sale:
	Sony SLV-676UC Stereo VHS VCR
	remote control
	"shuttle" dial on both remote control/front panel

$150 or best offer

Dave Clemans
dave_clemans@mentorg.com

685-1292	work
646-1138	home
From: karent@sequent.com (Karen Thomas)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: 1991 Nissan Maxima SE for sale
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:14:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Dec16.171400.3094
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.


1991 Nissan Maxima SE - beautiful car!

        *  8,000 miles
        *  charcoal grey w/grey interior
        *  automatic
        *  air conditioning
        *  power windows/locks
        *  power sunroof
        *  Bose sound system
        *  Security alarm
        *  Anti-lock brakes
        *  Spoiler

Immaculate condition - $16,800

Call Karen Thomas
        Days  578-4524
        Eves  641-1722
From: neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Van Dyke)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: DESOLDERING STATION ... $10
Date: 19 Dec 92 08:04:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: cadreor.1992Dec19.080455.10979
Organization: Cadre Technologies, Inc., Portland Operation
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


        I have a PACE MicroPortable desoldering station for sale.

 (Bought two at an auction hoping one would work, and it turns out both work.)

           Electric pump, variable power, 120 VAC or 12 VDC.

                             First $10.

                 Call at number below or 690-4680.

-- 
Neil W. Van Dyke <> neil@cadre.com <> +1 503 690 1586
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
From: brianb@mentorg.com (Brian Bailey)
Subject: WANTED - Charles Wysocki Puzzle - 11
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:32:13 GMT
Organization: mentor graphics
Keywords: 
Followup-To: 

I am looking for a Milton Bradley 1000 piece Jigsaw puzzle, that was
released about 2 or 3 years ago. The picture is unknown, but the required
serial number is 4679-11 I think. (The 4679 may be wrong, but the 11 is
correct. The artist is Charles Wysocki, and it is probably an old Americana
Picture. If anybody has one of these that they would be willing to part
with, please name your price.

-- 
Brian Bailey

================================================================================
My thoughts are sometimes my own. Other times someone says they own them,
			    and I have no rights.
Xref: sparky pdx.forsale:3266 or.forsale:2119
From: mmistkaw@willamette.edu (Mark Mistkawi)
Newsgroups: willamette.forsale,pdx.forsale,or.forsale
Subject: Compucom Speedmodem 9600
Date: 14 Dec 92 03:13:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: willamet.Bz8BMw.3GG
Distribution: or
Organization: Willamette University, Salem OR


I am selling my Compucom Speedmodem 9600 bps modem.  It is an internal,
8-bit card.  I have all of the documentation.

I will sell it for $110 or best offer.  I can be reached through e-mail or
at 364-7016.

Thanks

Mark Mistkawi
From: jacks@sequent.com (Jack Slingwine)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: Waterbed/Rowing Machine For Sale
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:10:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: sequent.1992Dec18.171019.3812
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.

Posted for a neighbor -- don't reply to me:

	King size, waveless waterbed.
	Insulated cover.
	3 years old, purchased for $600, selling for $200, OBO

	Rowing/Excercise machine
	2 years old, purchased for $300, selling for $100, OBO

Please contact:

	Lee Peregrine
	649-2408
	(lives in Beaverton)
From: neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Van Dyke)
Newsgroups: pdx.forsale
Subject: PRINCETON AMBER MONITOR ... $10
Date: 19 Dec 92 07:48:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: cadreor.1992Dec19.074821.10058
Organization: Cadre Technologies, Inc., Portland Operation
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5


           Princeton HX-12 Amber Monochrome Monitor for a PC

  (Bought at auction for a friend, but it turns out friend doesn't need one.)

                           First $10 takes it.

               Call me at the number below or 690-4680.

-- 
Neil W. Van Dyke <> neil@cadre.com <> +1 503 690 1586
Xref: sparky pdx.utek:50 ogi.general:43
From: horton@bogart.cse.ogi.edu (Nike Horton)
Newsgroups: pdx.utek,ogi.general
Subject: Surplused Utek workstation parts for sale
Date: 16 Dec 92 19:10:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: ogicse.47376
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute - Computer Science & Engineering

Still looking for the perfect holiday gift for that hard-to-please person?  :-)
Look no further.  The Oregon Graduate Institute of Science and Technology 
is having a liquidation sale of our Tektronix UTek workstations, peripherals,
documentation, etc.

Where: 	Oregon Graduate Institute Computer Science Dept lobby
	19600 NW Von Neumann Dr.   Beaverton, OR  97006-1999
	(503) 690-1106

When:	Thursday, December 17th, 4:00pm-6:00pm


We have a collection of approximately 8 upgraded 4315's and a few 4316
and 4317's.  Many have failed power supplies.  There are approximately
12 shoeboxes, many with power supplies, floppies and/or disk drives (mostly
in the 45 and 90MB range).

Sorry, no tape drives.  Lots of documentation, recycled 1/4 inch cartridges,
etc.

Not for the faint of heart.  We think that only those people currently
running UTek workstations would find this equipment of interest.
	
Pricing:
	$30 per 4315/6/7 carcass
	$30 per enclosure with disk
	$20 per enclosure without disk
--
Nicholas Horton			Systems Manager, Oregon Graduate Institute CS/E
horton@cse.ogi.edu		(503) 690-1106
From: ph12hucg@sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de (Carsten Grammes)
Newsgroups: de.etc.misc
Subject: Copyright von Quellcode
Date: 16 Dec 1992 13:13:00 GMT
Organization: Universitaet des Saarlandes,Rechenzentrum
NNTP-Posting-Host: sbusol.rz.uni-sb.de

Hallo ihr Programmierer da draussen,

Wer von euch hat schon einmal mit einem copyright-Problem der folgenden
Art zu tun gehabt:

Ich habe ein Programm zum Fitten entwickelt, das Teil eines groesseren
Plot-Pakets werden soll. Den eigentlichen Algorithmus habe ich dem Buch
"Numerical recipes in C" von Press et al. (eine sehr gute Sammlung von
Algorithmen zur Loesung mathematischer und statistischer Probleme incl.
Programmquelltext in C) entnommen und entsprechend angepasst.

Im Vorwort des Buches heisst es einerseits, dass der Originalquelltext
(wie im Buch abgedruckt) in maschinenlesbarer Form dem ueblichen
Copyrightschutz unterliegt und nicht weitergegeben werden darf.

Weiter heisst es dann (Zitat):

"    Copyright does not protect ideas, but only the expression of those ideas
in a particular form. In the case of a computer program, the ideas consist
of the program's methodology and algorithm, including the sequence of processes
adopted by the programmer. The expression of those ideas is the program source
code and its derived object code.
     If you analyze the ideas contained in a program, and then express those
ideas in your own distinct implementation, then that new program implementation
belongs to you"

Meine Frage jetzt insbesondere an die juristisch etwas erfahreneren Netter
und an solche, die schon einmal - gute oder schlechte - Erfahrungen mit
aehnlich gelagerten Problemen hatten:

Reicht es aus, den Quellcode der betroffenen Routinen leicht zu modifizieren,
(was bei jeder Einbindung in andere Software ohnehin notwendig ist) um eine
"distinct implementation" zu erhalten? Recht es aus, evtl. alle Variablen
umzubenennen, die Reihenfolge der Instruktionen (resp. sequence of processes)
jedoch zu belassen, um im obigen Sinne zu einer "distinct implementation"
zu kommen? Hat vielleicht schon mal jemand Erfahrungen mit dieser besonderen
Formulierung des Copyright-Schutzes gehabt, der in diesem Buch postuliert
wird?

Hintergrund meiner Frage ist, dass ich die fertige Software gerne im Usenet
publizieren moechte und nicht weiss, ob ich das darf!

Freue mich auf eine kontroverse und hoffentlich ergebnisreiche Diskussion...

Carsten.


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