From: suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: No Wonder The Greek Economy Is In Shambles, 'Skartsis.'
Date: 6 Apr 92 13:36:59 GMT
Reply-To: suley@xantos.uio.no (Suleyman Kondakci)
Organization: University of Oslo, Norway

In article <1992Apr6.060908.10033@jyu.fi>, ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti) writes:
> In article <9204040359.A9076eJ@anadolu.michigan.com>
han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu) writes:
> >
> >
> ><1992Apr2.170015.19423@wuche2.wustl.edu>
> >ls0823@wuche1.wustl.edu
> >
> >>Great, now I have to answer that!
> >
> >
> >>I have been watching the OECD reports  regarding income adj. for
PPP
> >>(purchasing power parity) for years; for 1990 that of Greece was
> >>near $6900 and that of Turkey $4200 (remember "in the same
category"
> >>could mean that one is half than the other). However, there are two
> >>things to be pointed out:
> >
> >Which one: 'Absolute Purchasing Power Parity' or 'Relative
Purchasing
> >Power Parity?' Clearly, Absolute PPP --> Relative PPP but not vice
versa.
> >
> >>Anyway , the GDP per capita (not PPP, the real one) 
> >>of Greece in 1989 was $5300 and that of Turkey $1300; in 1990 they
were
> >>$6900 and $1700 respectively (Turkey is doing well in its
macroeconomic
> >
> >Wake up and smell the Turkish coffee; the GDP per capita (or GNP for
> >that matter) is not a reliable indicator of the wealth. In
constructing 
> >a reference commodity basket to measure purchasing power, it is 
> >therefore likely that the Italian government will put a relatively
> >high weight on olive oil, the Japanese government a high weight
> >on sushi, and the French government a high weight on croissants.
> >
> >Source: 'World Development Report: 1990'
> >
> >	"Data On The Turkish Economy"
> >
> >1. Average annual growth rate of GNP per capita: 9.6%
> >2. Average annual energy production growth rate: 8.9%
> >3. Share of Education: 18.1%
> >4. Share of Economic Services: 22.1%
> >5. Average annual growth rate of exports: 15.3%
> >6. Average annual growth rate of imports: 10.3%
> >7. Share of 0-14 years old in population: 35.4%
> >8. Share of 15-64 years old in population: 60.3%
> >9. Crude birth rate per thousand population: 30
> >10. Crude death rate per thousand population: 8
> >11. Average annual growth rate of urban population: 3.4% 
> >12. Urban population as a share of total population: 47%
> >13. Government budget deficit as share of GNP: -4.0%
> >14. Energy consumption per capita: 822 kg. of oil equivalent.
> >15. Life expectancy at birth: 64 years
> >16. ...
> >
> >Source: 'United Nations, Human Development Report,' 1990.
> >
> >Annual Output Per Person in Dollars Adjusted to Purchasing Power
> >Parity: Turkiye, Greece and Chile are in the same category. That
> >is, $3,000 - $5,999. 
> >
> >Source: 'International Economics: Theory and Policy' by Paul R.
> >        Krugman and Maurice Obstfeld, Harper Collins Publishers,
> >        1991, (second edition).
> >
> >In terms of 'Annual Output Per Person in Dollars Adjusted to 
> 

> Jarmo Ryyti writes,

	Yes he tries to write ...
 
> To compare sconimics of two cuntries liek Turkey and Creece is
interesting
	     ^^^^^^^^^	      ^^^^^^^^ ^^^^            ^^^^^^^			
> but may be difficult.
> But how  about illiteracy?

	- Yes how about it? You sound _very_ literate, congr.!
	  What does 'Creece' mean can you explain it Mr. '(il)literate'?

	- I thought the discussion suggested by some '*sisios' was about
	  economical growth of Greece vs Turkiye or vice versa.

	- What is your intention in distorting the discussion?


> I have an impression that there in Turkey

	[ ... ]

> among the men and women and the same figures from Creece.

	[ ... ]
						    ^^^^^^
> Finland has had more than one hundred years 100 % literacy rate among
the
> adults. What about turkish standards? Especially women's?

	I assume that Jarmo represents the cream of the /Fin_ish literates/.

> jarmo ryyti
> finlandiya
> 
	Happy literacy!
	Suleyman Kondakci