From: u906789@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Mark Julian Turner)
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:55:17 GMT

ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:

>In article <76425@ut-emx.uucp> gdavis@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Grant R. Davis) writes:

>>If Terminator 2 was a bad sequel, then what could have possibly been a *good*
>>sequel? Do you have any *constructive* criticism?

>Well, for starters, they could have explained why oh why the T1000 was able
>to go back in time in a machine that only allows living things to pass
>through.

1. Reese/the rebels didn't properly understand how the time machine works and
   it can displace inorganic material.

2. The T-1000 is made of a "living" material which can be displaced.

3. The T-1000 was surrounded with living material (same as The Terminator) which   allow it to be displaced. The "skin" was then discarded or destroyed.

Take your pick.
>Now, in any other movie, I would have just let that slide.  No big deal.
>But this is the sequel to Terminator, which is almost a perfect movie,
>and in that movie they paid so much attention to these little details
>that I could *not* suspend disbelief in the sequel.


>Then there's the T1000.  It's a really neat idea, and it looks great on
>the screen, but I don't see it happening.  Take *any* material.  At
>a specific temp, pressure, etc, it will be in one state of matter.
>Not two.  Yet this thing constantly changed it state of matter regardless
>of the temp, pressure, etc.

This doesn't make sense.

>Now, you might counter that the T800 is something that doesn't exist either.
>And you're right.  But it *can*, in some possible future.  It is possible
>to make a processor that controls a machine that has 'arms' and 'legs' and
>maybe even cover it with living tissue.  None of the laws of physics have
>been altered.  This is not the case with the T1000.

What about the time machine? Doesn't that break any laws of physics?

>Then there's Sarah Connor.  She goes on and on about how people like
>(what's his name, the guy that works for CyberDyne?) can't understand
					Miles Dyson
>anything about life, that all they know about is death, and that "do
>you know what it's like to have a child, living inside you, growing,"
>etc etc ad nauseum.  Yet not 10 minutes ago she tried to blow the
>guy away!  Why not just walk into the guy's house, and show him, and
>explain?  That's what they ended up doing anyway!

>Then there's the fact that she can't accept the Terminator being on
>their side (not until the very end).  Why?  Someone who's been training
>for war as long as she supposedly has knows that the Terminator isn't
>the problem.  Sure, so one killed the father of her child and the only
>man she's ever loved.  But that's not a reason to hate/distrust the
>Terminator.  It's a tool.  It does what it's programmed to do.  Like a
>gun.  Had Reese been shot, I'm sure she would still own a lot of guns.
>I mean, this woman has a f**king arsenal, including a minigun, and yet
>she can't see that the Terminator is just another weapon, to be used
>by either side?  It's a crock.

That paragraph was so utterly dumb that I can't even be bothered to waste
my time commenting on it.
>Then, the fact that by destroying the building and the files, they
>destroy the project and Skynet doesn't get built.  Can you say
>"off-site backups"?  I knew you could.  They have backups of all their
>info stored away in a vault somewhere.

How do you know?

Rational explainations:

1. There aren't any off-site backups.(Not impossible)
2. They were at Dyson's house and were destroyed there.
3. There were off-site backups and they were destroyed by Dyson & co.
   but this wasn't shown.(A bit of a cop-out i know...)

  *Nothing* has changed.  The
>program can continue, minus one member (OK, so he was the leader.  He's
>not unreplacable).
>When you're that close to a breakthrough, you don't just scrap the
>program.

>There are others, but I'm late for class....

>>Well, I guess even Cameron can't please all the people all the time.
>               ^^^^ ^^^^^^^  I just love this.  *even* Cameron.  Like,
>if he can't do it, nobody can?


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