From: eliedw@hedda.uio.no (Elie Dib Wardini)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Son of God(was Shaheed)
Date: 18 Nov 92 12:11:01 GMT
Organization: UiO

In article <nabeel.722052639@oracle.sce.carleton.ca> nabeel@sce.carleton.ca
(Bulbul) writes:
>In <1992Nov17.192154.9039@tamsun.tamu.edu> kfh3591@tamuts.tamu.edu (Khalil
Hayek) writes:
>
>" Why don't you look at as elevating the status of the human race 
>" instead? You see, all religions agree that God is perfect, so it goes 
>" without saying that whatever we do will not take away from His state. 
>" Furthermore, since He is perfect, He will not do anything that will 
>" take away from His own esteem and perfection. Then it remains clear
>
>   hA_thA bayto lqa.sIdi yA bonaY! Since God is perfect we believe He
>wouldn't do this. If being flogged, spitted upon, mocked, crucified,
>etc. doesn't indignify or imperfect someone, then I wonder what can!
>Hardly can I also believe that it dignifies humans. Humans brought in
>the life of Jesus Christ (may peace be upon Muhammad and him) what
>embarrasses human race for ever and ever.

Look what Saint Paul had to say about this:

1 Corinthians 1:17   For Christ did not send me to baptize, but to preach 
        the gospel, not with wisdom of words, lest the cross of Christ 
        should be made of no effect. 

1 Corinthians 1:18   For the message of the cross is foolishness to those 
        who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of 
        God. 

1 Corinthians 1:19   For it is written: "I will destroy the wisdom of the 
        wise, and bring to nothing the understanding of the prudent." 

1 Corinthians 1:20   Where is the wise? Where is the scribe? Where is the 
        disputer of this age? Has not God made foolish the wisdom of this 
        world? 

1 Corinthians 1:21   For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through 
        wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of 
        the message preached to save those who believe. 

1 Corinthians 1:22   For Jews request a sign, and Greeks seek after wisdom; 

1 Corinthians 1:23   but we preach Christ crucified, to the Jews a stumbling 
        block and to the Greeks foolishness, 

1 Corinthians 1:24   but to those who are called, both Jews and Greeks, 
        Christ the power of God and the wisdom of God. 

1 Corinthians 1:25   Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and 
        the weakness of God is stronger than men. 

1 Corinthians 1:26   For you see your calling, brethren, that not many wise 
        according to the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called. 

1 Corinthians 1:27   But God has chosen the foolish things of the world to 
        put to shame the wise, and God has chosen the weak things of the 
        world to put to shame the things which are mighty; 

1 Corinthians 1:28   and the base things of the world and the things which 
        are despised God has chosen, and the things which are not, to bring 
        to nothing the things that are, 

1 Corinthians 1:29   that no flesh should glory in His presence. 

1 Corinthians 1:30   But of Him you are in Christ Jesus, who became for us 
        wisdom from God; and righteousness and sanctification and 
        redemption; 

1 Corinthians 1:31   that, as it is written, "He who glories, let him glory 
        in the LORD." 

1 Corinthians 2:1   And I, brethren, when I came to you, did not come with 
        excellence of speech or of wisdom declaring to you the testimony of 
        God. 

1 Corinthians 2:2   For I determined not to know anything among you except 
        Jesus Christ and Him crucified. 

1 Corinthians 2:3   I was with you in weakness, in fear, and in much 
        trembling. 

1 Corinthians 2:4   And my speech and my preaching were not with persuasive 
        words of human wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of 
        power, 

1 Corinthians 2:5   that your faith should not be in the wisdom of men but 
        in the power of God. 

1 Corinthians 2:6   However, we speak wisdom among those who are mature, yet 
        not the wisdom of this age, nor of the rulers of this age, who are 
        coming to nothing. 

1 Corinthians 2:7   But we speak the wisdom of God in a mystery, the hidden 
        wisdom which God ordained before the ages for our glory, 

1 Corinthians 2:8   which none of the rulers of this age knew; for had they 
        known, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. 

....


1 Corinthians 3:18   Let no one deceive himself. If anyone among you seems 
        to be wise in this age, let him become a fool that he may become 
        wise. 

1 Corinthians 3:19   For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. 
        For it is written, "He catches the wise in their own craftiness"; 

1 Corinthians 3:20   and again, "The LORD knows the thoughts of the wise, 
        that they are futile." 


elie wardini