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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: Battle Bowl, Lethal Lottery
Keywords: 16 out of ???
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 16:50:51 GMT

  Okay, Sting says he is going to be in Battle Bowl as well as face
Van Vader.  Having Sting defeat Vader after wrestling in Battle Bowl
certainly makes Vader lose face, but ho, there seems to be a solution.

  During Too Cold Scorpio's match on WCW Saturday Night (in which he did
an amazing leap over the ropes to flying bodypress a jobber on the floor),
Jim Ross announced that there were more than 16 competitors in Battle Bowl
and that Scorpio "hoped to have his name drawn."  Therefore, I don't think
Sting will be drawn in the Lottery, unless either he and Vader are, or
Watts is trying to make up for him not having a title by winning both
Batle Bowl and the King of Cable.

  Finally, it does seem kind of bothering at times when wrestling forgets
logical history (example, in a Survivor Series a few years ago having
Piper and Snuka on the same team when they previously had a hated feud, or
Jake teaming with Earthquake at last years SS [alright scheduled to team with]
after Quake quaked the Snake's snake).  Once again we have it.  Two years ago,
Briam Pillman feuded with Barry Windham which led to Brian "leaving" WCW
for a year, and so on.  Now they are teaming at Starcade.  Granted, Jim Ross
did ask them how much they trusted one another, but it is falling into the
same old stereotype - all faces like each other, all heels like each other.

		Still surprised Van Hammer beat Vader in arm wrestling,
			Fippster 6
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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: Christmas Vacation
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 01:00:03 GMT

  Starting Friday, I will be on vacation break, so I will not be doing posts
for Superstars or Wrestling Challenge for the next three or four weeks.
				Sorry,
				   Fippster 6
From: jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Royal Rumble lineup (unofficial?)
Date: 13 Dec 92 00:05:00 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

> According to M. L. Curly of the Detroit News, cable operators around
> the country have already been notified of the scheduled card at
> the Royal Rumble, Jan. 24 in Sacramento.  Curly apparently has a
> friend or two in the cable business, because he then proceeded to list:
> 
> Bret Hart vs. Razor Ramon for the WWF title
> Shawn Michaels vs. Marty Jenetty for the I/C title
> Big Boss Man vs. Bam Bam Bigelow
> Max Moon vs. Terry Taylor
> Steiner Brothers vs. Beverly Brothers

> And, of course, the Royal Rumble, which we now know is for a title
> shot at WMIX, involving:
> 
> Undertaker, El Matador, Tatanka, Papa Shango, Ric Flair, I.R.S.,
> Ted DiBiase, Bob Backlund, Nailz, Brian Knobbs, Jerry Saggs, Crush,
> Kamala, Samu, Fatu and 15 others.

Someone a few weeks ago posted results of the taping that's currently
running on Superstars now, and on that taping, Undertaker vs Nailz was
mentioned as a match. If this is bogus and Undertaker is in the Rumble,
he another candidate to win.

> And, thanks to Herb, we now know Yokozuna will win the Rumble
> barring unforseen events, while Bret Hart will retain his title
> (hopefully via the Sharpshooter).  Bam Bam, bye-bye, Big Bossman.

I'm not thanking Herb for anything. Yokozuma vs Bret would be tentative
at best I, for one, would be quite surprised if this main event came
to pass.

Bam Bam appears to be taken out of the Rumble as well (darn!). I'm thinking
more and more that Perfect is going to win it.


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From: Terry.Baldridge@launchpad.unc.edu (Terry Baldridge)
Subject: Re: Lawler?
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:46:41 GMT

In article <5214.137.uupcb@ssr.com> dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer)  writes:

>  >   some entertainment from seeing his wars. In fact, his matches against
>  >   Terry Funk were some of the finest brawls I've ever seen; which ---
>
>Agreed.  Have you ever seen the Empty Arena match they had?  I watched
>it again the other day.  Really good stuff.

Since I only saw it on television right after it happened, and not since,
I don't remember the match that well.  But, the interviews that Funk   
did after the match were a farce.  Well, I guess you could say that all
wrestling is a farce in some way or another :}, but Funk came out with
black electrical tape over his eye for goodness sake.  I can still  
remember Lawler saying he wanted to know what Dr. that Funk went to so he could
stay away from him.  So yes Funk can wrestle, he can interview sometimes, 
but sometimes he gets so far out that I can't suspend belief enough to
stay with him.

terry
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From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Too Cold Scorpio (WAS Re: Battle Bowl, Lethal Lottery)
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:30:58 GMT

In article <92350.083525WELACK@MIAMIU.BITNET>, Bill Lack writes:
 >   Let me add my name to the list of people that really like this
 >   "Too Cold Scorpio". Everything but his name and the dancing at
 >   at the begining of his matches that is. He uses alot of moves,
 >   is aerial beyond belief for a NA wrestler, and just generally
 >   seems to work hard, baring injury he is, IMHO, a superstar of
 >   the future. ("Til he gets too popular and has to job for "Nepoman".)

The dance flat-out sucks.  I'm so sick of how wrestling makes blacks--er, 
African-Americans (PCtm)--act like Steppenfetchit (sp?).  [Although some 
people do it on purpose--anyone catch Neon Deion Sanders' little TD jig 
Sunday?]  It's like a conspiracy to keep America ignorant...

The name is stupid, too.  Is he "too cold" because he's from Denver?  They 
sell jackets there, you know.  ;-)   Well at least he's not "Kareem Raheem
Abdullah", or "Lil' Kamala", or "Charles X", or "Voodoo Scorpio", or 
in some stupid full-body suit...the *other* federation would have done
something that idiotic.

But the wrestling--well, this guy's the real deal.  And now that they have
him, it's probably time to get the Light Heavy division going again.  Having
a guy like this in full-time (as opposed to Jushin Liger's previous one-tour-
at-a-time schedule) can really spur interest in this division.

It's also a frigging shame that Chris Benoit's not coming in anymore, either,
because Liger & Scorpio vs. Pillman & Benoit is a potential classic.

============================>Robert McMullen<============================

    The opinions expressed in this message in no way reflect those of
   ASK Computer Systems, Inc.  Flames welcome, but highly uncalled for!

=========================>robert@askinc.ask.com<=========================
From: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: dump phil
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:21:07 GMT
Reply-To: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


The way I see it, if phil got a clue and played it straight (ouch!)
then I think that it would be okay for him to come back.  Earlier 
this year phil made a number of posts that were reasonable and 
appropriate (I saved a number of posts from Jan & Feb).  But then, 
all of asudden, WHAMMO! the bullshit begins.  Maybe he went off his 
medication or something but one thing is clear.  As long as phil 
continues to post crap to this newsgroup there's no point in letting 
him back in.  He does have an interesting sense of humor but he
blows it (OUCH!) by taking it overbaord.  I don't understand why
he does it but he does seem to have the need of being the
(inapropriate) center of attention.   I've read some of his posts
to other groups and it's clear that he gets a rise out of carrying
on endless arguments.  I don't think phil is going to change.
Sorry, he's not my cup of tea.

-- 
Just this person's view of netlife.

======> mike palij ::  bh929@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From: mgrimes@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Michael Grimes)
Subject: Wrestling Tapes Exchange?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:17:06 GMT

Pardon this posting if it's improper to rspw, but do other subscribers exchange
wrestling tapes? I have a fairly large library going back to 1985. Lots of 
WWF,NWA, UWF and some other independent leagues. I would post to one of the 
want ad listings, but I thought more wrestling fans would read this here.

Again, my apologies if this is unacceptable here. E-mail me please if you want 
to exchange lists or tapes.

Thanks
Mike G
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From: macika@emunix.emich.edu (Dominic Macika)
Subject: Re: UK wrestling tapes
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:27:31 GMT

In article <1glkg0INNgd5@oak27.doc.ic.ac.uk> tr3@doc.ic.ac.uk (Tahzeeb Rauof) writes:
>
> By the way, my brother (yes it runs in the family!) says that the Snake was
>thrown out of the WCW because an irate fan tried to shoot him and the gun
>actually went off at the tv taping..Anyone confirm??
> 

Yes, some irate, mentally unbalanced fan did take a shot a Jake at a
WCW show at Dallas' Sportatorium.  No, this was not the reason he left
WCW, he left due to a substance abuse problem and checked into the 
Bette Ford clinic.  I don't believe the gun incident occured at a TV
taping.
-- 
Dominic Macika

"Tread softly, for this is holy ground; it may be, could we look
with seeing eyes, this spot we stand on is paradise."
			-Christina Rosetti
From: rtcst3+@pitt.edu (Robert   T Conticello)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestlemania Main Event
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:37:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1gii34INNp10@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij) writes:
>
>Maybe.  This is what I would like to see.  Bret drops the strap to Ramon
>either at the Rumble or in a house show.  Bob Backlund wins the Rumble
>and faces Ramon at WMIX.  Why?  Ramon, although he's not a monster,
>is a big heel and is really over in this role (in this sense he's more
>like Sgt. Slaughter).  He is the antithesis of Backlund.
>Another reason is my belief that both Hall and Backlund probably have 
>title reigns in their contracts.  Yokozuna has yet to demonstrate any
>real heelishness and so is a monster in size but not in style.
>

    I highly doubt Scott Hall has a title reign guaranteed in his contract.
 The only reason he seems to a have a job with the majors is that Sid 
 Eudy likes to play softball during the summer!  Think about it.  He made
 an appearance as the Diamond Studd at Superbrawl '91 which was Sid Viscious'
 last appearance in WCW.  A year later, Sid is canned by the WWF, and who
 shows up to be the monster heel two months later? Scott Hall, mang!

 Seriously, if Sid Eudy wasn't the definition of unprofessional, Scott Hall
 might be working at the Taco Bell, chico.


-rob
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From: robert@askinc.ask.COM (Robert McMullen)
Subject: Van Hammer, Like Gag Me With A Spoon (WAS Re: Battle Bo
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Inc.
Distribution: world 
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:33:22 GMT

In article <92350.083525WELACK@MIAMIU.BITNET>, Bill Lack writes:
 >   Can anyone explain the push that Van Hammer continues to get?

No.  IMHO, even Erik Watts is better.  At least EW has shown improvement
in a *short* time, as opposed to little (if any) improvement by VH over 
a *long* time.

 >   He seems to generate no heat, can't wrestle, and his interviews
 >   are pathetic. Is he Watts' illegitimate son maybe?

The only way this guy could get heat is as a heel, and only if he viciously
turns on a top face.  I don't see much difference between Hammer and Lex
Luger, except that Luger's interviews were better.

Are they telegraphing a Hammer turn by having him arm wrestle Simmons?
The typical wrestling-show scenario goes:  the two shake hands, Simmons wins
after a struggle, they go to shake hands again, Hammer clocks him.

Then we can be treated to a Ron Simmons-Van Hammer feud, which if Watts plays
his cards right, will last him until around the Great American Bash '93.  ;-)

============================>Robert McMullen<============================

    The opinions expressed in this message in no way reflect those of
   ASK Computer Systems, Inc.  Flames welcome, but highly uncalled for!

=========================>robert@askinc.ask.com<=========================
From: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Does anybody (besides me)
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:25:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer) 

DR>Remember "The Missing Link"? :-/

Who could forget Dewey Robertson?
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From: dkempste@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David N Kempster)
Subject: FAQ
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 19:53:12 GMT

I think that you SHOUlD go ahead and post a miniFAQ or some such thing every 
week (pace Sean Ryan). Sean correctly points out that you can put long 
expiration dates on files but fails to take note of the fact that many 
newcommers to a group will not read what is there but will hit "c" and mark 
everything as read and start afresh. I do that with every new group I subscribe
to. Yes, I too think that people should read a group for a while before they 
post but they don't all and even if they did they may not see the FAQ for some 
time if the keepers of the FAQ follow Sean's advice. The point of having a FAQ 
is to avoid wasting a lot of time and energy answering the same questions over 
and over again. This would be better served by its being reposted fairly 
frequently.

I also think that something about the sheets should definately be included. 
Questions like what they are and how can they get a sheet come up a lot. People
also wonder where our information is coming from and knowing that these 
newsletters are outthere should help with that question as well.

                                                   David Kemspster
From: owentracyjea@bvc.edu (Tracy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: WHY???????
Date: 20 Dec 92 16:46:55 CST
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA

In article <1992Dec20.161406.3089@peanut>, owentracyjea@bvc.edu (Tracy) writes:
> In article <hit.724667002@sol>, hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe) writes:
>> bolt@wpi.WPI.EDU (some asshole) writes:
>> 
>>>Most of the people who post here should be directed to rec.stupid.phil-stromer
>> 
>> Some people just have a big attitude when he knows nobody is gonna come
>> get him.  My university isn't a good one, but what is WimPI? You sure ain't
>> from one of Ivy League schools, are you?  Oh well, you still call them 
>> stupid...

> 
>   I read this group to see what has been happening and to get questions 
> anwsered not to hear this stuff and about this phil-person.  TAKE IT 
> ELSEWHERE!  Pleassssssssssssse!  Thanks!
> {{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}}
> Tracy "CARY" Owen                              "Earn more sessions by sleaving"
> e-mail "SMACK@cs.Stanford.edu"                            -Roxanne
> ________________________________________________________________________________

   Sorry about posting this and not just sending it too the party it came 
from.....D*MN!  Now I'm guilty of the same thing so....I shall throw in 
wrestling tidbits from this mornings show.  

   Doink gave the Nasty Boys christmas presents: Fake tag team wrestling 
belts to which they then gave to the kids and then opened the other gift..a 
picture of Jimmy and Money Inc.

  Did I get the set quota of wrestling into my post to be eligible for no 
flaming?  OOPS...also forgot that on this you are also not suppossed to ask 
questions.  Sorry again!!

Season's Greetings -
T-







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From: anonymous
Subject: Jose Gonzales
Organization: anonymous.com 
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:00:13 GMT

With ref to Brody's murder who is this Jose Gonzales? Any info about 
him posted to the net will be greatly appreciated. Brody was my hero
growing up. This Gonzales character does he ever wrestles in US if 
not would anyone know his location/profession/residence in PR.

Any info will be greatly appreciated
From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Jerry Lawler enters the WWF!!
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:19:58 EST
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

mk009b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Matt Kaufman) writes:

> >Despite that, Haku wasn't king.
> 
> If he was not king then who did Duggan beat for the crown, and who feuded
> with Harley Race for it after Heenan gave the crown to some one else.
 
What I meant was he wasn't king AT THE TIME. It was late, alright? I was 
tired and buzzed! :)
 
--Don

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From: slucas@grant.ncd.com (Steve Lucas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Battle Bowl
Date: 15 Dec 92 14:57:34 GMT
Organization: Network Computing Devices, Mt. View, CA, USA

In article <2B250C94.17544@ics.uci.edu>, jjermani@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (John W. Jermanis) writes:
|> My thoughts on Battle Bowl and WCW in general:
|> 
|> - if they have enough sense to fix they drawings for teams, they need to
|>   stay away from the obvious temptation of teaming up Jushin Liger and
|>   "2" Cold Scorpio.  They need to put them on opposite teams, so they
|>   can actually put their moves on each other (I just can't picture Eric
|>   Watts selling a moonsault bump) and work a NJ style match.  Of course, they
|>   will be on opposite teams, but spend zero time in the ring together.
|>   One can dream though...

Actually, it would be best if they did team these two.  In addition, team Barry
with Austin, Dustin with Watts, Anderson with Eaton, Vegas with DDP and so on.
This would help the ratings and raise the failing WCW.  But I must be dreaming
if I think Cowpie would even consider this.

|> - OK, let me get this straight: There are 16 participants in the Battle Bowl,
|>   who fight in tag-team matches, the winners advancing to a battle royal.
|>   If this is true, do we get to see an eight-man battle royal?  Seems kinda
|>   silly.  At least the ring crowding that happers most royals won't happen.

16 participants are wrestling in the battle bowl.  This means 8 tag matches with
the 16 winners into the battle bowl.

|> - Groan.  I refuse to believe that they'll give Watts the US title.  That
|>   doesn't mean it's not going to happen.  Papa Bill _must_ realize that
|>   even the marks don't like him.

It does seam like the worst thing that could happen, but then again were talking
about Cowpie pushing his little boy.  It would actually be better if Watts and
Dustin teamed for a while and gained the belts.  BUT, this isn't the way Cowpie
is going.  Look for Rude to drop the belt to Watts within the next couple of
weeks.  This opens up the World title for rude.  It may not be the WCW title, 
but the NWA title if Chono holds it at battle bowl.

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From: cg@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (charles.gavinelli)
Subject: Latest News...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 21:57:51 GMT


Nailz (Kevin Kelly) is gone. He apparantly slapped Vince McMahan.
Vince is looking to sue. John Clark (Wrestling Flyer) tried to get
an interview with Nailz and he said that he can't talk because
he may be involved in a court case.

Prime Time Wrestling (WWF's USA show) may be filmed live in
New York for a couple of dates in Jan and Feb 1993.

The Ultimate Warrior did a run-in at an indie show. The show
was held on 12/5 and is said to have outdrawn the WWF show that was
nearby (a show in Boston). Hellwig cannot use the "Warrior" name.
Hellwig did a run in wearing a hat and long coat. When he got to the
ring, he took off his hat and coat. He was recognized by all and
the place went nuts as he cleaned house. He was introduced as
"the man formerly known as the Ultimat Warrior".

Here is the Royal Rumble lineup:
 
Hart vs Razor for the Title
Michaels vs. Janetty for IC title (Sherri expected to be back...
				   but with Marty)
Boss Man vs Bam Bam
Steiners vs Beverly Bros
Max Moon vs Terry Taylor

Royal Rumble:
Lawler
Carlos Colon
Tenryu
Flair
'Taker
Perfect
Backlund
TTTTatanka
Savage
Virgil
Quake
Crush
Duggan
Typhatt
(Nailz - but he is now history; don't know replacement)
Santana
Owen Hart
Koko
Yokozuna
DiBiase
IRS
Berzerker
Knobbs
Saggs
Shango
Head Shrinker #1
Head Shrinker #2
Repo
D. Demento
Martel
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From: dchhabra@stpl.ists.ca (Deepak Chhabra)
Subject: Re: Phil Stromer
Reply-To: dchhabra@stpl.UUCP (Deepak Chhabra)
Organization: Solar Terresterial Physics Laboratory, ISTS
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 18:50:43 GMT

In article <ASH.92Dec18085127@ulysses.mr.ams.com> ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder) writes:

>But it is still censorship.  We don't like what he says, so we want to
>drum him out of the group.  That's fine, and I'm in favor of getting
>rid of him.  But let's not mince words.  Censorship is censorship.  
>
>My Webster's defines censorship as: "the act or a system of
>censoring."  A censor is defined as "an official with the power to
>examine publications, movies, television programs, etc. and to remove
>or prohibit anything considered obscene, libelous, politically
>objectionable, etc."  So we are voting to ban Stromer from publishing
>articles in this group because they are considered politically
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>objectionable.  We are acting as the "official".  We are the censor, 
>performing censorship.

The "this group" part is the most important phrase of your post.  "This group"
has an intended purpose, namely the discussion of wrestling.  So saying
that a 'no' vote to Phil Stromer w.r.t. his posting _in this group_ is 
censorship isn't quite accurate.  He has shown that his posts have absolutely
*nothing* to do with wrestling, and as such they have no place in this group.
Another group, maybe, but not this one.

And please don't anyone say that other posts crop up that have nothing to do
with wrestling; should we ban those people from posting also (say, for 
example, me with this one).  The added element is the nature of Phil's posts,
and they are deliberately offensive any way you slice it.