From: vli@mpr.ca (Vincent Li)
Subject: Re: Stand up girls! Re:Why? Why? Now I am telling you why.
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd., Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 02:03:47 GMT

In article <80795@ut-emx.uucp> shui@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dreamer) writes:
>Hey Girls,
>
>   It is time for us to say something after reading those stupid and narrowed
>mind guys' junk news.
Point well taken, but I'm sure not all of them are stupid & narrow minded,
nor do I think they are all serious -- may be sarcastic.
>
>   Why we are always taken as an object by the guys?  We have our right too.
>Listen guys!  We are not as passive as our mothers .  If you think you
>can control your wives or just as her to do favour for you with no return or
>reward, forget it.  
Hey, take it easy. Anyone with half a brain know that...granted not everyone
posted here have that. And give guys some credit. You are describing my dad,
not me. If you are not as passive as your mothers, some guys aren't as stupid
as their fathers either. It goes both ways...as you said.
>
>  Love is two ways. Give and take.  Chinese husbands are the most terrible one.
>They are very selfish.  Most of them think their jobs in the family is only
>to bring money home.  Nothing else!  They don't care about their wives feeling
> or their needs.
Qualify that. Chinese husbands aren't the most terrible, neither are Americans,
French, English...well may be not Spanish...but the point is, it's the person
who makes the husband...and the wife. Culture has a big influence, but living
cultures change. Granted, I do agree with you the traditional way of thinking
in the Chinese culture is very chauvinistic, but are there many other cultures
which aren't also? Cultures change, attitudes change, and people will change.
Natural selection, remember? If you want the "nice" guys to survive, seek
them out.
>
>  If you think you can hind something behind your wife's back, you are wrong.
>Even the most stupid wife will notice what you have been up to.  
The most stupid won't, otherwise they won't be the most stupid, would they?
8-) Personally, what is there to hind?
>
>  Guys start building up a right attitude to treat female. Otherwise you will
>be sorry.  
What is the right attitude? I listen to her, I care about her, I told her
everything, but she doesn't love me as much as I love her. So? Doesn't girls
still expect guys to be aggressive? Expect guys to make the first move?
May be that's just as bad a generalization as yours, but like you said...
it goes both ways. Just out of curiosity, assuming you've gone on dates
before, when was the last time you "made the first move" and ask someone
you like out? Or would you ever consider that?

It's just like a previous discussion on "man needs more than one wife".
If you remember, that wasn't a list of the number of wives one needs, it's
a list of "desirable" qualities in a mate. Since no one is perfect, it would
be difficult to find someone who fits the bill exactly. For those who
understand this simple princle, they live happily with that one person they
love. For those who are stupid, they go on seeking...

-- Vince

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