From: ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca (Mohamad Ebrahimi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Sectarian Iran is bent to destroy Pahistan!!!
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:06:01 GMT
Organization: Elect & Comp Engineering, U of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Manitoba,Canada


   In article: <3562@keele.keele.ac.uk> phd21@esq1.keele.ac.uk (A. Jaber)
writes:

>>From: ebrahim@ee.umanitoba.ca (Mohamad Ebrahimi)
>>
>>  You are right about the rivalry, but the conclusion of this problem, as
>>is done by A. Jaber, is not correct. The bloody conflicts between these
>>groups are NOT the result of this rivalry, instead they have much deeper
>>roots in those societies than the history of Islamic Revolution in Iran.
>
>	The bloody conflict between those people is not a result 
>	of the rivalry itself. The bloody conflict is a result of
>	that Iran is suuporting a faction and Saudi Arabia is suuporting
>	another faction. 
>

     You are disregarding my main point, and that's the historic roots
of conflicts in Pakistan. It is understandable for me why you are trying
so hard to attribute every conflict in Islamic World to Iran, and that's
because this is in benefit of Saddam Hussein to appear like a Muslim hero.
     About 4 years ago Allameh Aref Hossein Hosseini, the leader of
Pakistan's Ja'afari Movement was martyred by some assassins. Government of
Pakistan was never able to try the real responsibles of that crime. A
few months later it was clear, and was acknowledged by Pakistani media
that this crime has been planned and paid by Iraqi embassy in Pakistan.
Everybody remembers several events in which so called Iraqi diplomats
were carrying weapons or arms. So I'm sure there is very close 
relation between Iraqi conspiracies in Pakistan and your hard trying
to show Iran as responsible. 

>	This has nothing to do with the rivalry of Iran and Saudi Arabia
>	but rather it is planned by the Allies of Iran(???) and the
>	allies of Saudi Arabia( USA and Europe) to create problems in
>	Pakistan in order to weaken it destroy it.
>	

     This is one of your masterpieces. While Pakistan is one of Iran's
few friends, specially after their departure from US circle, and west
is accusing Iran for trying to aquier nuclear abilities by Pakistan's
collaboration, you are propagating that Iran is trying to destroy
Pakistan.

>	Remember Pakistan now is abandoned by the USA since it lost
>	its strategic importance and Pakistan is the only Muslim Country
>	with a nuclear potential after Iraq. Iraq is destroyed and now
>	the turn is Pakistan. The easiest way to destroy Pakistan is to
>	create this sectarian problems which are financed and supported
>	by both Iran and Saudi Arabia. Iran is doing all of this while
>	their Media talks about Islamic unity. TOO MUCH RHETORIC.
>

     I'll be waiting to see how you answer to my previous article about
the efforts of US and west to maintain Saddam in power. Then I'll ask you
how do you think that Iran is collaborating with US, while US has been
using every possible way to destroy Islamic Revolution in Iran. 

>>On the other hand, if the rivalry between Iran and saudi Arabia
>>is the reason for these conflicts, then there is a contradiction in your 
>>above statement: Why this rivalry has not created conflicts like those of
>>afghanistan and Pakistan in "Newly independent states north for Iran"?
>>
>>Mohammad   
>
>	Please open your eyes my friend Mr or Dr Ibrahimi, Iran is
>	supporting the Armenians over the Azeri Muslims in the bloody 
>	conflict. Russia is giving the Armenians the Arms to attack the 
>	Muslims in Azerbijan while Iran is giving Armenia the fuel and 
>	the food to keep the war going. Iran is doing this to waeken
>	Azerbijan. Yes there are Iranians who support Azerbijan but
>	those are Azeri Iranians and not the Khomeinist regime. Iran
>	is supporting Azerbijan only by RHETORIC while Iran is helping
>	the Armenian war machine to keep running.

     My eyes are open my dear phd21. I have heard all this baseless
allegations lots of times. What me or any other netter have never seen
is your evidence. But we all have found that you have a norm for your
propaganda. Wherever there is a conflict between Muslims and non-Muslims,
then Iran is supplying the non-Muslim part (like Serbs, Armenians, Shi'as
in Pakistan-in case you don't accept Shi'a as an Islamic sect, etc.), with
oil and food and arms. And of course to say all of this, there is no need
to show a single piece of evidence. All it needs is that everybody must
open his or her eyes and completely accept your Majesty's allegations. 

>
>A Jaber
>
Mohammad