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From: mcole@sub-40 (Mary Cole)
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: domestic violence & the super bowl
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:00:06 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

Here's a message I received today. Please add your support to it and help  
others:


|>From POMONA.CLAREMONT.EDU!JRYCENGA Wed Jan 20 11:52:44 1993
|
|For political activists, or media watchdogs, or just concerned
|women, here's a quick something you can do to help prevent
|and stop domestic violence.
|
|Super Bowl Sunday - which this year is January 31, here in southern
|California at the Rose Bowl in Pasadena - is the single worst day
|for domestic violence in the USA.  There is an increase of as much as 40%  
in the volume handled by domestic violence shelters on this
|day.
|
|To try to stem this tide of violence, the Women's Action Coalition
(WAC) of Los Angeles is supporting the campaign by Fairness and Accuracy  
in Reporting (FAIR) to convince NBC (the network carrying the game) to  
carry two Public Service Announcements on domestic violence during the  
Super Bowl this year.  Anna Quindlen of the New York Times wrote a fine  
editorial in the 1/17/93 edition of the Times supporting this effort as  
well.
|
|What I am asking of you - and all your friends (please PLEASE
cross-post this to _any_ lists you can think of) - is to help us with a  
FAX/LETTER blitz on NBC, asking for these PSA's.  Here is a sample letter:
|
|Dick Ebersol
|President, NBC Sports
|NBC
|30 Rockefeller Plaza
|New York, NY  10112
|
|Dear Mr. Ebersol:
|
|We (I) support FAIR's request that you air two Public Service
Announcements on domestic violence during the Super Bowl game.  The Super  
Bowl is one of the most widely viewed television events of the year; it is  
also the day, according to women's shelters, when calls for help increase  
by as much as 40%.
|
|Your broadcast of the Super Bowl will reach a huge audience.  By your  
airing PSAs, NBC will be bringing to a national audience the critical and  
important issue of domestic violence.
|
|Sincerely,
|
|
|   You can rephrase or rewrite this letter to your liking, but please FAX  
or write them immediately.
|
|To reach NBC by FAX:  212-664-5835.
|
|   Thanks for helping - you may save someone's life, or skeletal
structure, or eyesight.
|
Xref: sparky ca.general:1644 ba.general:5729
From: maslak@unix.SRI.COM (Valerie Maslak)
Newsgroups: ca.general,ba.general
Subject: Looking for Pik&Save or McFrugal
Summary: A lip protector I used to buy has been discontinued but PS
Date: 29 Jan 93 00:22:37 GMT
Followup-To: ca.general
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA

Distribution: ca
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, California

My local drugstore has told me that a product I loved called Lip
Shiner, a hypoallergenic lip protector made by Physician's Formula
has been discontinued.

I called Physician's Formula and they said that any leftover stock
might have been sent to Pik & Save or McFrugal. I don't know either
of these stores in my area; since PF is in LA, perhaps they're
located in southern CA.

Anyway, if  anyone knows either of these stores and happens to be in
one, can you look for Physician's Formula Lip Shiner, the color is
either 28 or 78 (hard to read). It looks like a brown lip gloss, in
a black and gold tube with a clear cover. I'll be glad to reimburse you for
any you can purchase. 

Or I'd be glad just to get the locations of any of the stores.
Thanks.

Valerie Maslak
From: sobelman@cco.caltech.edu (Steven M. Sobelman )
Newsgroups: ca.general
Subject: Looking for Bay Area radio stations
Date: 26 Jan 1993 21:37:16 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: us
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu
Keywords: radio bay area sf

I was wondering if there are lists available of the formats of various radio
stations in the Bay Area and, if so, where I could get one.  A partial list for
the L.A. area might look like

FM (kHz)
88.1 KLON    Jazz, public radio   Long Beach
94.7 KTWV    New age              Hollywood
95.5 KLOS    AOR                  Los Angeles
97.1 KLSX    Classic Rock         Los Angeles
102.7 KIIS   Top 40               Los Angeles
106.7 KROQ   Alternative          Pasadena

Mail, or post if you think others would be interested.


Thanks,
Steve
sobelman@cco.caltech.edu

Newsgroups: ca.general
From: jordan@mothra.rose.hp.com (Jordan Levin)
Subject: Heavenly Ski Discount?
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:58:10 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8.4]

Does anyone know of any places in the Sacramento area that
I can purchase discount lift tickets for Heavenly Valley?

Thanks in advance,

Jordan (jordan@agape.rose.hp.com)
From: joe@gallery.UUCP (Joe Hart)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: test from Gallery
Keywords: test Gallery
Date: 23 Jan 93 10:23:05
Distribution: la
Summary: Test message from Gallery. Jan. 23, 1993. 10:29am.
Organization: Night Gallery BBS Est. 1985 - OS9 L2 StG (818) 448-8529



This is a first test message from Night Gallery. TTTTTTEEEEESSSSTTTTT

From: larry.fletcher@one.calcom.socal.com (Larry Fletcher)
Sender: UUCP@calcom.socal.com
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: Test
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:42:34 -0800

This is a test.
 
 * Origin: ONE WORLD Los Angeles 310/372-0987 32b (1:102/129.0)
From: dgunn@f129.n102.z1.calcom.socal.com (dgunn)
Sender: UUCP@calcom.socal.com
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: test
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:25:01 -0800

This is a test.
 

 * Origin: ONE WORLD Los Angeles 310/372-0987 32b (1:102/129.0)
From: Wayfarer@f129.n102.z1.calcom.socal.com (Wayfarer)
Sender: UUCP@calcom.socal.com
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: Test
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:43:38 -0800

Testing cyberspace.
 
 * Origin: ONE WORLD Los Angeles 310/372-0987 32b (1:102/129.0)
Newsgroups: ca.test
From: al@netcom.com (Al)
Subject: this is not a test
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:19:48 GMT


just kidding.
From: Larry.Fletcher@f129.n102.z1.calcom.socal.com (Larry Fletcher)
Sender: UUCP@calcom.socal.com
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: test
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 09:24:04 -0800

This is a test.
 

 * Origin: ONE WORLD Los Angeles 310/372-0987 32b (1:102/129.0)
Newsgroups: ca.test
From: jimc@megatek.com (Jim Campbell)
Subject: ignore
Reply-To: jimc@megatek.com
Organization: Megatek Corporation, San Diego, California
Distribution: ca
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 14:42:27 GMT

ignore

-- 
Jim Campbell				|	"Remember to tweet!"
jimc@megatek.com			|	Is it my imagination, or am
WB6ZPB 		NSS#36691	ASA TNS	|	I just imagining things?
From: Ace@auilcs0.UUCP (James Knowlton)
Newsgroups: ca.test
Subject: test
Date: 27 Jan 93 06:36:11 GMT
Organization: Alternate Reality Video Graphics
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.17.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

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This is not a test, someone is attempting to decieve you into thinking it.
From: XA.U20@forsythe.stanford.edu (June Genis)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: Libertarianism and Children's Rights
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:13:40 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <PA142548.867.727974356@utkvm1.utk.edu>,
PA142548@utkvm1.utk.edu (T. Archer) writes:
>In article <1993Jan24.015553.16766@EE.Stanford.EDU> budd@playfair.Stanford.EDU (David Budd) writes:
>>This is true, but what it does do is remove institutional protection
>>from those who simply are not mature or emotionally developed
>>to make such a decsion. It opens up 15,16,17 year olds or younger
>>to be preyed upon. I suppose that you also favour the removal
>>of child-labour laws. I guess that a 16 year old is capable
>>of deciding that he should work x number of hours for y
>>level of pay?
>>
>>One of the roles of the government is to protect the helpless.
>>and few would argue that children are not in this group.
>
>This is precisely the problem I have with this particular plank in the
>Libertarian Party Platform.
>
>I am willing to support the principle that the calendar age of an individual
>is an arbitrary way to determine their majority.  I will further support an
>effort to discourage further laws based on age.  I will even support an
>effort to review all age based statutes and repeal those that are
>ineffective or unnecessary.  But until a clear, objective, and reasonably
>easy to apply gague of maturity can be developed, I cannot see supporting
>the abolition of all laws based on age.
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
>E-Mail to PA142548@utkvm1.utk.edu, mail to ARCHER at that address will
>bounce.    "Don't blame me, I voted Libertarian."
>=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=

I have always advocated that if a child of any age wishes to be able
to do something that it is perfectly legal for any one who is "of
age" to do, that he or she should be able to do so if he or she can
convince a judge (or better yet a three member panel of arbitrators
where the child picks one, the people opposiong the child's action
choose another and those two together choose the third) that that
child understands the consequences of the action they wish to take
and is willing and able to bear full responsiubility for any
possible ensuing consequences.

/June
From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: AZT Resistance
Date: 19 Jan 93 02:02:36 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <1j45h4INNh75@spim.mti.sgi.com>, dauber@tattoo.mti.sgi.com (Jeff Dauber) writes:
> In article <13909@optilink.COM>, cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
# |# Why would I do that?  Hemophiliacs had no choice about their
# |# disease.  Nor did hemophiliacs engage in stupid activities that
# |# put innocent people at risk.
# 
# What about smokers?  Second hand smoke is much more of a risk for you
# than HIV.  In addition, the health care costs of lung cancer are much
# higher than that of HIV.
# 
# FWA

Very true.  I'm amazed that we waste as much money chasing lung
cancer, when we have an easy way to eliminate MOST of it.  (Actually,
I'm not amazed -- we subsidize growing of tobacco as well.)
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
"When freedom destroys order, order will destroy freedom." -- Eric Hoffer
Not a goal, just a statement of reality.
From: cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: WE're Beatrice
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:30:17 GMT
Organization: Optilink Corporation, Petaluma, CA

In article <74161@cup.portal.com>, Arthur_T_Hu@cup.portal.com writes:
> I've just heard radio clips that the head of Beatrice was a Black American.
> I never knew that, and I still haven't seen coverage in the newspapers
> here. Anybody got the full story, and like Rush LImbaugh says, how come
> young blacks don't ever hear about this guy, only the tough guys in the
> hoods. Sounds like this guy had the right ticket to fortune and riches,
> not the losers that told NPR that they sold drugs because "the money's good",
> admitted "yeah, it kinda destroys the race, but that's not my problem",
> and "I've got a job, but I lookj like a hoodlum so I can't get a better
> job". I also wonder about rap lyrics I heard on KPFA that "i'm going to
> make you an orphan", homocide is my hobby, I have no value for life,
> blah blah blah. What am I supposed to make of this?

Because there are a fair number of African-American success stories
out there, and a heck of a lot of middle class African-Americans
out there as well.  But if you talk about that too much, the excuses
for dramatic expansions of governmental power and spending to help
blacks wouldn't be so persuasive.

The theme of "helping blacks" as though they were some sort of
incompetent child, is what liberals rely on to continue feeding
at the public trough.
-- 
Clayton E. Cramer {uunet,pyramid}!optilink!cramer  My opinions, all mine!
"When freedom destroys order, order will destroy freedom." -- Eric Hoffer
Not a goal, just a statement of reality.
Xref: sparky ca.politics:10650 ba.politics:8289
From: phil@netcom.com (Phil Ronzone)
Newsgroups: ca.politics,ba.politics
Subject: Re: What is Clay's real motivation?
Date: 24 Jan 93 20:13:34 GMT
Organization: Generally in favor of, but mostly random.

In article <1993Jan24.090837.2017@deeptht.armory.com> rstevew@deeptht.armory.com (Richard Steven Walz) writes:
    >Pederasty is limited to acts against pre-pubescent children,
    >technically. Pederasts are typically people who cannot have
    >normal relations with older people of either sex. They are
    >usually unaroused by sexually capable persons of either sex
    >beyond puberty. In other words, most states and many of the
    >most industrialized modern countries hold almost anyone who
    >is sexually active by choice as capable of choosing legally.
    >It is not absolute adulthood, but then we have sixteen year
    >olds driving two ton vehicles at 60 mph, horrors! - Steve

1. The only study I have found, one way or another on this, is an initial
   report on sex offenders in prison. They use a pupil dilation test
   when showing various pictures.

   The "homosexual" prisoners (child molestors) dilated for nude males of
   all ages, and very little for females of any ages. The sample for
   "homosexual" child molestors was only 16 in the initial report. I'm
   going to scan it in one of these days and post it.

   However, conclusions from unpublished parts show that "homosexual" and
   and hetereosexual molestors differ significantly -- homosexuals are
   shown to have a high interest in nude pictures of males of all ages,
   where most of the hetereosexual child molestors showed little interest
   in "older" females, EXCEPT for a large minority that found interest
   in very old (60+) pictures of nude females -- the key seemed to be
   an attraction in "helpless" females!

    >... Abuse can only occur
    >anyway if the child is subjected to the imminent contraction
    >of a sexually transmitted disease or pregnancy, and last I
    >looked, we haven't bothered to try to chase down the fathers
    >of pregnant teens.

Wow -- pregnancy is sexual abuse!?!?! How Politically Correct(tm). DO you
live in Berzerkley or Insaneta Cruz .. ah, uh, never mind ....

    >----------------------------- If you didn't realize it, they
    >work from that age up now for shit wages if they work less
    >than a certain number of hours and they are only temporary
    >help. All they get is disability. They don't make enough to
    >get unemployment even! We need better people labour laws.
    >This problem also occurs to seniors! -Steve

Wow. Shit wages. Of course, a visit to any fast food restaurant shows that
the reason teenagers get shit wages is because they are often shitty workers.

Of course, the labor laws you call for, besides being oh-so-popular with
those paragons of virtue such as the AFL-CIO, are merely artifacts that
keep teenagers broke. Which really helps when a teenager needs to bring in
money to live on.

Please don't try and spread such "help" around, O.K.?


-- 
I believe Gennifer Flowers.

These opinions are MINE, and you can't have 'em! (But I'll rent 'em cheap ...)
From: XA.U20@forsythe.stanford.edu (June Genis)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: But it is OK to coerce certain groups...
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:15:07 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1k1dc2INN8tn@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,
stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo) writes:
>For instance, it would be acceptable for a business, not to pay one empolyee's
>benefits for health insurance, while paying another employees, and give no
>particular reason.  Or pay one employee half the salary of another employee
>for the same job and performance level. In the social contact of any society,
>people look for and expect, to a certain degree, fairness in treatment.

The employer is under contractual obligation to give each employee
exaactly what he or she was promiosed as compensation for their
work.  If one employee prefers to have their medical expenses paid
while another perfers to get an extra $100/month in salary why
should any third party be able to step in and say that these two
employees must have exa tly the same terms to their employment
contract?

A contract of any sort comes into existance only when the terms are
acceptable to both sides.  Why should anyhone else besides the
direct parties to that contract be able to dictate to those parties
what acceptable terms are?

/June
From: mhi@wet.UUCP (Philip E. Murphy)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: WE're Beatrice
Date: 26 Jan 93 18:47:39 GMT
Organization: Wetware Diversions, San Francisco

Both Arthur and Clayton have missed the point.  Descrimination is as much a 
problem now as it has ever been.  People do not notice it and further they do
not realize where the problems lie.  I agree that it is the liberal issue to
through money down the hole and call it fixing the problem.  The problem is
not just a black problem but a problem affecting all of us.  The white
middle class will be in the same boat soon enough.  The corporations that
have given us computers and cars and video games are moving where they get
the most bang for their buck.  The people at the lower end of the economic
scale get it first and it trickles up the socio-economic ladder.  Drugs are
big business items to the american corporate ladder as well.  The money is
laundered here, and both the DEA and the other inept branches of the gov.
are unwilling to identify the real culprits.

It is easy to sit back and say that they choose the drug life over conven-
tional consumer lifestyles because for the most part they live in communities
where the schools are sub-standard, teachers do not want to work there, jobs
are non-existent and the good life is rubbed in there face every day.  If you
want to see what America could be or should be, go to South America , go to
Europe and see what life is all about.  America has been so protected and
selfish to its own that we are more apt to help keep american interests abroad
in control of their "assets" than we are to rebuild the infrastructure of
America , rebuild its educational system and ensure that America is able to
be some kind of leader (intellectually and technically) in the 21 century.

How many of you out there have spent time in ghetto's or talked to people
living in them?  Or do you get your "truth" from the net and TV.  It is 
scary in the ghetto - I do not like going there.  But I know what the problems
are first hand and I will do more than just talk.  Will you.

P. Murphy

-- 

Phil Murphy                                          (415) 285-2595 voice 
P.O. Box 460084 San Francisco,CA 94146-0084          (415) 285-8213 fax
From: XA.U20@forsythe.stanford.edu (June Genis)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: But it is OK to coerce certain groups...
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:16:42 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1k3ubqINN1ri@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,
stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo) writes:
>There is no moral basis for anything if you wish, to play moral relativity.
>My position is such that, an individual and a group weigh what is best
>for all concerned.  What is best can be very fundamental- best wages to
>live on, health coverage, treating all customers with respect, etc.

But what allows you to compell me to be a member of your "group".
If I voluntarily join an association which requires that I abide by
the majority rule of the membership and that groups passes some rule
to which I object I can at any time relinquish my membership and
stop receiving member benefits.  If that organization happens to be
a community association they can not force me to continue complying
just because I live in the area represented by that community.  I
that group howerver calls itseld a "city council" it can so compell
me.  Why should it have the ability to do something the voluntary
organization could not just becaue it has chosen to call itseld a
"government"?

>You may not agree with the above statements, since you play the role of
>moral absolutist when it comes to individual rights, and there extrapolation
>to private property.  There is no basis (moral) to give anyone civil
>or individual rights.  We have developed these doctrines, becuase they give
>all of us fair overall treatment.  You scratch my back and I will scratch
>yours.

But you can not scratch my back and then demand that I scratch yours
unless I agreed to do so before you started scratching.  If you as
an individual have no right to compel me to scratch your back
without my consent you can not cede this non-existent right to a
government which you elect to represent you.
From: carlos@beowulf.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Carlos Carrion)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: safe sex question
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:43:59 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: beowulf.jpl.nasa.gov

In article <14084@optilink.COM> cramer@optilink.COM (Clayton Cramer) writes:
>
>More reminders from soc.motss of why homosexuals are dying of AIDS 
>at very high rates -- and that the behavior hasn't changed:

	To those who fear AIDS and are being promiscuous (homo/hetero sexuals):

	Why isn't the answer "Change your behaviour or DIE" ?

	Are we looking for a cure in order to go back to our old ways?...
	and perhaps find death in another form???

carlos.

"Negro Equality! Fudge!" - Abraham Lincoln
      ...ames!elroy!jpl-devvax!{beowulf|pituco}!carlos
From: carlos@beowulf.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Carlos Carrion)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: WHAT'S ALL THE HUBBUB... was Re: Gays in the military
Date: 28 Jan 1993 21:29:59 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: beowulf.jpl.nasa.gov

	I don't get it...
	What's all the uproar???
	Haven't gays been in the armed forces for a while?...a LONG while?

	Hasn't the military known about this?

	Lesse...
	Gays have been in the military for a LONG time.
	The military has known this.
	I'll even go so far as to assert that there have been gay officers
	- high level officers either presently or in the past.
	Now the military is saying gays are not welcome.
	Hmmm...

	don't get it...
	So, what's all the hubbub...bub?

carlos.

"Negro Equality! Fudge!" - Abraham Lincoln
      ...ames!elroy!jpl-devvax!{beowulf|pituco}!carlos
From: XA.U20@forsythe.stanford.edu (June Genis)
Newsgroups: ca.politics
Subject: Re: Moral Defintion/Confusion ( Re: Is this wrong, or what?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 19:20:02 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: ca
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1k4lgfINN9sn@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>,
stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (coram populo) writes:
>Remember, and as far as I know, it is not illegal to have sex with hundreds
>of consenting individuals.

Having sex with anyone to whom you are not leaglly marries id
defined as "fornication" and in some staes it's still just as
illegal as sodomy although enforcement is usually even more
selective than for sodomy laws.

/June
From: erc@Apple.COM (Ed Carp)
Newsgroups: ca.earthquakes
Subject: Frequencies for telemetry ?
Date: 26 Jan 93 02:43:22 GMT
Distribution: ca
Organization: Bleeding Edge Technologies - 'Sliding Down The Razor Blade Of Life...'

I've noticed in the past few weeks several requests for details on the
telemetry from various earthquake sensors, but I haven't seen any details
posted.  Would someone either post or email details, like frequencies,
encoding of data, etc.?  Why aren't these details being posted?
-- 
Ed Carp, N7EKG                    erc@apple.com                   801/538-0177
"This is the final task I will ever give you, and it  goes  on  forever.   Act
happy, feel happy, be happy, without a reason in the world. Then you can love,
and do what you will."           -- Dan Millman, "Way Of The Peaceful Warrior"