HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tabo@hitech.com (Tony Abo)
Subject: Where does "message" put its messages?
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:02:02 GMT


The PRIMOS message facility places messages directly in the
recipient's output buffer.  This means that the recipient's process
never actually is involved in the receipt of a message (i.e. if it is
waiting or sleeping, it will continue to do so un-interrupted).

My guess is that your windows are only triggered when the process
actually executes something.

--> Does this mean that there is a working XWINDOWS for PRIMOS?

original message follows:
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   Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:57:50 GMT
   From: trumbull@allegro.unx.sas.com (Ed Trumbull)
   Sender: info-prime-request@blx-a.prime.com
   Organization: SAS Institute Inc.
   Sender: ListServer@Blx-A.Prime.COM (Prime Netherlands ListServer v1.12)
   Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM


      I have a modified version of 'xterm' which will pop an iconed
   window when something gets written to that window.  (Currently, after
   you put a window into an icon, it stays an icon no matter if there's
   output to it or not.)   
      All's working fine, except that the message commands (both m and 
   m -now) won't pop the window.  The message gets displayed on the window,
   after I pop it up from its icon.  Other commands (ld, date, stat, and
   so on) make the screen pop up, but sending a message doesn't.  (If I'm
   running emacs, and send the message, the screen pops up.)  What's
   message doing differently from other programs which do terminal IO?
   -- 
   Ed Trumbull <trumbull@unx.sas.com>      
   SAS Institute, Inc.      SAS Campus Drive   Cary, NC    27513   USA    

------------------------------------------------------------

Tony Abo
Hitech Systems, Inc.
1964 Westwood Blvd. # 435
Los Angeles, CA 90025

Internet: tabo@hitech.com
Voice:    (310) 475 3210
Fax:      (310) 474 0655

This is may clever little saying at the end of my mail messages
because everyone else seems to have one.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: trumbull@allegro.unx.sas.com (Ed Trumbull)
Subject: Where does "message" put its messages?
Originator: trumbull@allegro.unx.sas.com
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 19:57:50 GMT
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


   I have a modified version of 'xterm' which will pop an iconed
window when something gets written to that window.  (Currently, after
you put a window into an icon, it stays an icon no matter if there's
output to it or not.)   
   All's working fine, except that the message commands (both m and 
m -now) won't pop the window.  The message gets displayed on the window,
after I pop it up from its icon.  Other commands (ld, date, stat, and
so on) make the screen pop up, but sending a message doesn't.  (If I'm
running emacs, and send the message, the screen pops up.)  What's
message doing differently from other programs which do terminal IO?
-- 
Ed Trumbull <trumbull@unx.sas.com>      
SAS Institute, Inc.      SAS Campus Drive   Cary, NC    27513   USA
From: a.0013@VCC3.VCC.BC.CA (Jim Chivas  Vancouver Community College)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
Subject: Full screen editor
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:50:49 GMT
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

Try calling AFCAD at 201.769.7400  This company sells editors and more.

Jim

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Subject: Full screen editor
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From: Lynn Charnitz (414-797-8512 Voicemail #3)  <LYNN@MD-MKW.Prime.COM>
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 17:43:32 +0700
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

Greetings all,

I have a 50 Series customer who is looking for a full screen editor for
use under PRIMOS.  Their developers are using a variety of PCs running
PROCOMM VT100 emulation.  Keyboard styles vary.  They feel EMACS is a bit
too pricey.

Any recommendations for them?

Regards,

Lynn Charnitz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: STEEN@DDS.Prime.COM (Steen Hansen)
Subject: Computervision in the news
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 20:02:32 GMT

The current issue of Barrons (pg. 70, 'The Trader') spends about half a
page telling the recent story of Computervision (Prime) seen from Wall
Street. Nothing new for us here on the list, but the graph showing the
almost free-fall price of the Computervision stock (from $11 to $5) is an
ominous picture.

Besides showing what the analysts think about a company, what effect does
a stock price have on the daily life in the company, and on its customers?

Steen
Newsgroups: comp.sys.prime
From: JCROSS_PUBMAIL@prime.mhsl.uab.edu
Subject: Prime/Primos Analysts & Coders Wanted
Reply-To: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:41:51 GMT


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To:   Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM
From: Roland Kittredge - Marketing 508-620-2800 x4666  <R.KITTREDGE@MD-B.Prime.COM>
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 12:13:20 EDT
Reply-to: Info-Prime@Blx-A.Prime.COM

          Boston Sunday Globe, September 28, 1992

                         PRIME/PRIMOS

Aspen Systems Corporation is a large national and international
organization rapidly expanding in the information systems consulting
arena. Immediate openings exist for Prime/Primos analysts and coders
with knowledge of CPL, Midas and COBOL. Functional design experience is
also required.
                  MAKE A GREAT CAREER MOVE!!!
Send your resume to the attention of ISS at:
ASPEN SYSTEMS
962 Wayne Avenue
Silver Springs, MD 20910
(301)585-8181
FAX: (301)495-8655

Equal Opportunity Employer/Affirmative Action



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Steve,

Think this is a good career move for me ;-)? :-)
From: dmiller@dragon.tricity.wsu.edu (David L. Miller)
Subject: Re: TCP/IP & Printing
Organization: Washington State University Tri-Cities
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 92 03:35:49 GMT

I just happened to stumble on a very nice solution to this for the HP
Laserjet IIISi.  It seems that the JetDirect card for Unix uses the same
protocol as Prime uses to print through an LTS300 terminal server ;)

Actually it works better that the printers we have connected via the LTS300.

This also has the advantage of being supported on the Prime side!!!

email me if you have amy questions.

-- 
*****************************************************************************
David L. Miller                       Internet: dmiller@beta.tricity.wsu.edu
Systems Programmer/Network Analyst      BITNET: MILLERD@WSUVM1
Washington State University Tri-Cities    UUCP: ...!yoda!dmiller
100 Sprout Road                          
Richland, WA 99352                       Phone: (509)375-9245
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Optical Drive for sale
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 13:37:59 GMT

Hi.
I don't know if there is any interest for this sort of thing, but
I have an optical drive I could be interested in selling to someone
with a cube.  The drive works perfectly, and always has.  It has
worn a filter from the first day.  I have 3 or 4 disks which I
will also sell (preferably together with the drive).

I have no idea what something like this is worth, but I guess between
US$750 - 900 is maybe O.K.????

Why I'm selling?  There is only one other machine with an OD here, and I'm 
really tired of having to take long excursions wth a disk just to take
a few print outs.  I think I'll buy a floppy drive instead - it's 
cheaper than a printer.

Please e-mail replies to any of the following addresses:
T.Legvold@alf.uib.no
edmtl@edb.uib.no
edmtl@fiol.uib.no
ppstl@cc.uib.no

If you're interested we can work out an accptable price & shipping 
arrangements.

Regards,
Thor Legvold
NorNeXT user group leader
University of Bergen
Norway
From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: 3.0 Wanted
Date: 4 Oct 92 13:30:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: next.1992Oct4.133007.799
Reply-To: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us
Organization: Simson Garfinkel and Associates, Inc.

In article <1992Oct1.110004.15773@augur.han.de> mp@augur.han.de (Mathias  
Pruestel) writes:
> Want to buy 3.0.(to be send to Florida adress)
> Mathias

Try calling 1-800-848-NeXT
-- 

................................................................simson
From: don@b62178.STUDENT.CWRU.Edu (Donald J. Siegel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: WANTED:  NeXT Null-Modem Cable (MiniDIN-8 to DB-25)
Date: 28 Sep 1992 22:26:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: b62178.student.cwru.edu

I'm looking for a NeXT Null-Modem Cable (MiniDIN-8 to DB-25) to connect a  
NeXTstation to an Apple Personal LaserWriter NTR.  When last I called,  
NeXT Connection had none avialable.  (I'm willing to cover all expenses  
involved in transport.)

Thanks,

Don Siegel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: azamora@hexagon.cs.indiana.edu (Tony Zamora)
Subject: NeXT 400 dpi laser printer for sale
Reply-To: azamora@cs.indiana.edu
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 92 11:31:40 EST

I have a NeXT 400 dpi Laser Printer that I would like to sell.  I got in in  
March 1991 but have not used it very much, and it is in great condition.  I  
estimate that I have printed fewer than 300 pages on it.  I would like $1100  
for it.  Let me know if you are interested.

Thanks,

Tony
azamora@moose.cs.indiana.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: Tham <thams@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Optical Disks For Sale
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 04:04:55 GMT


I have the following items for sale:
  1) Four Cannon 512 MB optical disks, $130 each.  Lightly used and have
     been reformatted.
  2) Two NeXT 256 MB optical disks, $50 each. Also used and reformatted.
Buyer pays COD shipping.  Please send reply to thams@silver.cs.indiana.edu.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace,misc.forsale.computers
From: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu (Wassim M. Jabi)
Subject: NeXTstation Color for sale
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:26:39 EDT
Organization: The University of Michigan, Ann Arbor
Reply-To: wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu
Distribution: usa

I have a 25MHz NeXTstation color for sale:
# 32 MB RAM (4MB x 8 slots)
# 200 MB Internal Hard disk
# 17" monitor
# keyboard, mouse, soundbox, manuals, cables etc.
I just called NeXT for the list price:
cpu (16MB RAM, 105 Hard disk) = $5650
                  17" monitor = $2000
                     soundbox = $ 125
          keyboard,mouse etc. = $ 225
                        Total = $8000
-------------------------------------
  Add price of RAM (16MBx$25) = $ 400
 Add price of 100MB Hard disk = $ 200
-------------------------------------
                  Grand total = $8600
              My asking price = $5600

This computer was not bought from a university (non-edu)
The serial number IS registered under my name with NeXT.
Warranty expired in May 1992.
The computer is in excellent condition.
No parts of it ever needed any repair.
Cpu opened a couple of times for Memory upgrade.
Pampered with a keyboard dust cover, Computer was left on 24Hrs. to save
hard disk, monitor turned of at the end of day, screen saver installed.
Selling to upgrade to Turbo color.
Obviously I'm looking for a non-edu buyer.
I'll ship FEDEX COD in the US only (you pay shipping).

I might be willing to sell the cpu by itself. Make me an offer.

I reserve the right not to sell this computer for any reason.
--
Wassim M. Jabi                            (313) 936-0229
Doctoral Program in Architecture, University of Michigan
2000 Bonisteel Boulevard  Ann Arbor  Michigan 48105-2313
wjabi@libra.arch.umich.edu             NeXTMail-friendly
From: ifbb657@onyx.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Average used prices for NeXT systems
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:37:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: ut-emx.80762
Reply-To: ifbb657@onyx.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin


   Is there a list for the prices that used NeXTs are selling at?

------------------------------------------------------------
******* ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas R. Floyd) ******
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|            (Insert standard disclaimer here)             |
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: delrio@di.unipi.it (Mauro Delrio)
Subject: Vendors in US
Organization: Dipartimento di Informatica, Universita' di Pisa
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 09:41:36 GMT

 I'm looking for some Next vendors in US. Could someone help me ?
 Moreover I need their FAX number.

			TXS
From: jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John Todd)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Cube for sale
Summary: NeXTCube for sale...
Keywords: NeXT, for sale, NeXTCube, Dobbs
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:24:43 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York


For Sale:
  
   NeXTCube '30 with
    256 Meg R/W Optical Drive
    8 MB Ram
    2.1 Extended software w/developer's kit
    40 MB Internal Swapdrive
    17" Screen with Keyboard/Mouse
  
    MINT Condition.  Total machine hours: 80 (!!)
 
    Graduating student must sell to make apartment payments.

    PRICE: $2400 (Cheap!)

    Email to: jtod_ltd@cc.rochester.edu

-- 
John Todd         | University of Rochester, Rochester NY USA Earth Milky Way
CPU 276686        | "...where the skies are not cloudy all day!"
Rochester NY 14627| Jeeps Fixed, Technology Hacked, Lawns Mowed, Maidens Saved
jtod@alora.cc.rochester.edu (NeXT mail)        jtod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu
From: john@nextdoor.com (John McCracken)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: 420 Meg SCSI harddrives for sale!! (Brand new)
Date: 6 Oct 92 18:23:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: nextdoor.1992Oct6.182337.181
Reply-To: john@nextdoor.com
Organization: Nextdoor Software, San Jose, CA, USA

In article <1992Oct2.021853.18943@tc.cornell.edu> stlombo@eos.acm.rpi.edu  
(Steve J. Lombardi) writes:
> THEY'RE BACK!!
> 
> Last month I posted a message that I had some Seagate 420 Meg SCSI
> drives for sale at an extraordinary price. They were all sold
> but I was just able to get 6 more... 

I tried e-mailing you Steve, but the mail bounced saying your site was down.
If you get this, please e-mail me with a working e-mail address for yourself
so we can discuss this.

Thanks.
-- 
 John McCracken                   White Computers
 john@nextdoor.com                  Can't Jump
 NeXTMail welcome
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: NeXT Cube System For Sale
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 02:10:32 GMT

I have a NeXT 040 Cube for sale. I have already sold much of the software
for it. Here's the details and what is left.
 
040 Cube with Optical Drive and PLI 2.88 meg external floppy
8 OD's ( 2 have data which I need to back up before sending
those those on).
Maxtor 1.0 gig (formatted) internal 5.25" hard drive with 4.5 years
left on the warranty. 16megs RAM.
2 working mice (whole system is in excellent shape-> it is 1.9 years
old).
Appsoft Draw (latest version).
coXist version 2.1.2 (latest- except for the recent 3.0 release) with
Motif, DL support, full developers version.
Equation Builder version .9 (with free upgrade to 1.0).
NeXTSTEP 2.0 on OD and 2.1 on the hard drive.
Write Now 2.0.
Lot's of PD stuff.
Clear( not dimming) monitor.


Note: Will sell to someone who could make better use of the system than me.
      Sale is subject to a reasonable offer, and at marketvalue prices.
      System used exclusively at home. OD works fine, dust cover, etc...

Reasons: Am moving back to the Mac and on to OS/2. Am not a programmer.

Please e-mail me offers at:
 
Philip McDunnough
Professor of Statistics
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu

Shipping and Payment: By mutually convenient terms.
From: n9240566@henson.cc.wwu.edu (leif e. harrison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: WANTED: NS Color
Summary: Want to trade 16M '030 ('030) Cube for NeXTStation Color
Keywords: Cube '030 Color NextStation
Date: 3 Oct 92 19:04:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Oct3.190422.10677
Organization: Western Washington University


	 I am looking to trade a 68030 NeXT Cube for a NeXTStation
 (non-Turbo) Color.  The Cube is in great condition and includes
 16M of RAM, the Optical Drive (hopefully a good selling point), 2
 optical disks (1 full of stuff off the net, the other with NS2.0)
 and all other necessary stuff (monitor, keyboard, mouse, etc...).
 Oh, also has the internal 40M swap disk.  Make an offer.

			- Leif Harrison
		   	  n9240566@henson.cc.wwu.edu

 I know it's a long shot, but hopefully somebody is more interested
 in an OD and expansion slots than color...maybe...  
 Me, being a college student, can't afford a new 'Station or a
 NeXTDimension (although I wish I could).
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: philip@utstat.uucp (Philip McDunnough)
Subject: Soft PC, FrameMaker3.0, Neuron96+ (with Synapse) 4 sale
Organization: University of Toronto, Dept. of Statistics
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 06:40:26 GMT

I have the following items for sale:
 
Lisp
SoftPC
FrameMaker3.0
Neuron96+ faxmodem (with Synapse- supports x,y,zmodem, vt100)
Improv

The Neuron96+ is a v.32bis, etc...modem which will not receive faxes (I
can't get it to) but does send them. It seems to work fine as a data modem
with Synapse. Will sell it for $150. It's a Digicom modem so perhaps someone
in the US can get their latest ROM's. Black case and cable.
 
FrameMaker3.0 is registered. I've never used it enough to justify it. Price
$250.
 
SoftPC version 2.0x. Just bought a 486. Will sell it for $100 or less.
 
Lisp has never been upgraded or registered. It came with my system 1.5 years
ago. Price=? Have no idea.
 
Improv: $150??
 
I really have no idea what these items are worth. They are taking up space,
and someone may make better use of them. SoftPC is slow on my Cube.
 
User pays shipping C.O.D ( deduct it from the prices).
 
Philip McDunnough
University of Toronto
philip@utstat.toronto.edu



Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
From: sphere@netcom.com (Sam Goldberger)
Subject: Re: WANTED: Mathematica
Keywords: Mathematica
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 14:18:22 GMT

chuston@earth2.rmnug.org writes:

>Looking for Mathmatica...

>If you got it, I wanna buy it.

>reply to chris@earth2.rmnug.org

I want two copies also.

Sam Goldberger
sphere@netcom.com
415-383-7512
From: glenn@rightbrain.com (Glenn Reid)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: Re: NeXT Cube System For Sale
Date: 5 Oct 92 04:23:57 GMT
Reply-To: glenn@rightbrain.com
Distribution: na


Philip McDunnough writes

> I have a NeXT 040 Cube for sale. I have already sold much of the software
> for it. Here's the details and what is left.

> Reasons: Am moving back to the Mac and on to OS/2. Am not a programmer.

> Philip McDunnough
> Professor of Statistics
> University of Toronto
> philip@utstat.toronto.edu

This is a shame.

Philip has been an active member of these comp.sys.next* groups for a
long time, and now he's selling his system and bailing out of the market.

Philip, as one who has participated in this, I just have to say I'm sorry it
turned out this way.  From reading your past several postings, I know
that you're disillusioned with NeXT's lack of direction, shifting sands,
and broken promises.

I sympathize, and I apologize from the collective community.  I think it
will get better soon, but then I've been thinking that for several years.

Good luck.  I hope you're at least a little frustrated with the Mac
and OS/2 :-)  Check back in here in a month or two and tell us how it's
going.

--
 Glenn Reid        		NeXTmail: glenn@rightbrain.com
 RightBrain Software		415-326-2974 (NeXTfax 326-2977)
 Palo Alto, California		Electronic Frontier Foundation, member #054
From: ijeff@pietrzak.carleton.ca (Ian Jefferson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.marketplace
Subject: NeXT OD and disks for sale
Summary: Selling Optical Drive and Disks
Keywords: OD floptical
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:45:01 GMT
Organization: Carleton University


I would like to sell my Optical drive and 5 (five) optical disks.  The drive
has been used very little and besides needing regular cleanings has been
no trouble.

The disks are in good shape and I will ship them reformatted. Some are
origional software release disks, some are NeXT disks, all are 256Mb
capacity.

I would prefer to sell the whole lot together, but I will split it up if
I must.  I would like $70 per disk and $500 for the drive for a total of
(if I'm adding right today) CDN$ 850.00 or equiv in US$.  I'm negotiable
(since I don't have much of an Idea what the drive is worth) and I'll
consider trade combinations for Improv or Mathematica 2.x.

I'm selling because I just don't use the drive, except for backup.  I
will likely be going DAT for backup real soon now.

Responses to 
ijeff@ccs.carleton.ca
ijeff@computeractive.on.ca

Ian Jefferson


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