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From: f88mattb@fy.chalmers.se (Mattias Bryntesson)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Cheap "Leica" (Re: another all mechnical camera)
Date: 11 Sep 92 14:58:37 GMT
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, G|teborg, Sweden

In article <1992Sep11.084037.5777@fy.chalmers.se> I wrote:
>In article <10SEP199214453382@venus.tamu.edu> s0l3906@venus.tamu.edu (LIN, SHYH-HORNG) writes:
>...
>>For a beginner who want a mechnical camera, it seems to me that
>>Yachica FX3 super 2000 is a better buy than Pente x.
>...
>
>Another feature of Yashica is that you can use Leica lenses, making
>the bodies interesting for others than beginners. I don't think they
>come with such a lens, at least not for $119.   ;-(
>
>Mattias
>

No, not Leica, shut up, damn!
Sorry, I mean Contax, I mean Carl Zeiss.

Mattias
Newsgroups: rec.photo
From: sasha@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (alexander.kostomaroff)
Subject: EXA Camera
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:10:03 GMT
Summary: Let It Pass 

Pamela Catherine Forman
of Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
writes:

 >This weeks challange:  Thagee Dresden EXA camera.  Made in USSR
 >occupied Germany (194?).  Lens is unremovable E. Ludwig, Meritar
 >1:2.9, f=50mm.
 >It has a really STRANGE viewfinder pop-up-box (for lack of a better
 >description!).  It is a 35mm and is presently residing in yet another
 >junk/antique shop.  At $100 I doubt that it will join my Zenit and 
 >Canon but I said that I would see if I could find anyone who knew 
 >anything about it.
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Primo:	 "Ihagee" not "Thagee" - very reputable German manufacturer before
         WWII.

Secondo: Lens IS removable - Exakta bayonet mount (BTW, Meritar is a piece
         of East German merde).

Else:    EXA was concieved as a poor commie's Exakta. The shutter (1/30,
         1/60, 1/125 if my memory doesn't fail) is a funky mirror arrangement
	 - the mirror goes up --> light hits the film.

I'll pay  no more than $10.00 US to put it in a curio cabinet which I don't have
and never will. 


Alexander Kostomaroff
Observer Of Passing Events
From: fiddler@concertina.Eng.Sun.COM (steve hix)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: What's "telephoto ratio"
Date: 14 Sep 1992 21:30:47 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: concertina

In article <1992Sep14.162515.5660@cello.hpl.hp.com> jacobson@cello.hpl.hp.com (David Jacobson) writes:
>
>I was just looking at a Sigma ad and saw the following:
>
>    APO 1000mm F8 ZEN
>    World's first 1000mm autofocus lens.  Extremely
>    compact, telephoto ratio of 0.58.
>
>So what is "telephoto ratio"?

The physical length of the lens divided by its focal length.






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From: andpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Infrared Photography
Reply-To: andpph@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 00:48:38 GMT

In article <25899@dog.ee.lbl.gov>, bercov@bevsun.bev.lbl.gov (John Bercovitz) writes:
>In article <1992Aug31.185312.22897@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> eugene@briar.lle.rochester.edu (Eugene Kowaluk) writes:
>>bill coderre writes:
>>
>>> honna@cs.concordia.ca (SEGEL honna) writes:
>>> |If memory serves me right, the 87 is a filter which passes only a very
>>> |narrow portion of the Em spectrum *in the ultraviolet region*...wroight?
>>
>>The 87 starts transmitting around 750nm and improves to 88.5% at 1100nm.
>
>The transmission at various wavelengths for this and other filtersis 
>listed in the CRC handbook - the one that is for chemistry and physics.


if you would like to get a copy of the transmissions of most comonly used
filters in the IR area plus a few hints on IR and UV photography send me a self
addressed, stamped ( 2 stamps) legal sized envelope and I'll share info I've
collected.

Andrew Davidhazy
RIT - Imaging Technology
PO Box 9887
Rochester, NY 14623
From: markt@cup.hp.com (Mark Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.photo
Subject: Re: Kiev 88 (as in Shutterbug)
Date: 8 Sep 92 15:29:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: cup.Bu9n0o.43v
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
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I believe that there is a review in shutterbug in the June issue.  I have the
July issue where they review the Kiev 66 (i think) which is setup more like
a pentax 6x7.  In this review he mentions the review the 88 and i think it was
in the June issue.

Mark
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From: chang@ecf.toronto.edu (CHANG Rong Fawn Teresa)
Subject: Re: BRAND NEW JVC VHS-COMPACT VCR FOR SALE
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 23:39:51 GMT

In article <56021@olivea.atc.olivetti.com> scaruffi@flash.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Piero Scaruffi) writes:
>It's a new JVC GRAX2, a VHS-C of reduced dimensions (handycam like) bought one
>months ago in New York at the "Nobody beats the Witz" shop in Manhattan, as
>you can see from the receipt of my credit card payment (if you are interested
>i can send you a Fax). It's really good, with the full auto option and so very
>easy to use. It comes with VHS tape adapter, a battery, a battery charger and
>cables for AC power and TV connection. I bought also an additional battery,
>double capacity, and an extended one mor year international warranty.
>I payed USD 909.25, any offer not less than USD 700.00 will be considered.
>I am selling it because I am moving back to Europe and The European standard
>(PAL) is different from the US one (NTSC).

Would this be an appropriate group to post?  Anyways, your reason for 
selling would be pardonable.  If your store has 30-day money back guarantee,
you might wish to get your money back for some service charges.  You could
also consider to sell it at second hand mart or ask your friends if they
like to have it.  You should have known not to buy it since you are leaving
the country and there is a standard problem for your VCR.  Do you need to pay
tax for it?  I guess if you'd like to sell it quick, you probably shouldn't
limit your bottom line since someone would just consider it used anyway.
Also, it'd be an idea if you'd include your FAX number.  Just suggestions.
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: dadams@cray.com (David Adams)
Subject: Re: More (hot) pepper questions
Reply-To: dadams@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 8 Sep 92 14:41:29 CDT

 nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil (Judy Karpen) writes:

|BTW, I just discovered this group, and am wondering if there also is an existing 
|group (or enough interest in forming one) devoted to organic gardening. Thanks!
|
|                                                                  Judy

Well I thought that this group WAS (for the most part--or as much as 
any group can be) devoted to organic gardening.

But then, as my father in law says, "You know what thought did?"

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From: duanej@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Duane Jacobson)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 20:37:09 GMT
Subject: Redbud in Colo.
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.gardens

I'm interested in planting 2-3 Eastern Redbuds in my back yard.  I live in
Ft. Collins, CO, which is in USDA Zone 5.  I've been told that Redbud needs
winter shelter from the wind and sun in my area.  We have dry, sunny winters,
with daytime temperatures above freezing much of the time.

My lot does not have any mature trees to offer any shade, but I do have an
area with a NNE exposure (see diagram).  Does anyone (esp. people along the
Colorado Front Range) out there have experiences/advice that will help me
decide if this situation is suitable for growing Redbud trees?

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From: dmiller@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Dick and Jill Miller)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Flame: Why Kay Gardens
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:18:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: mintaka.1992Sep10.181838.19131
Distribution: na
Organization: Laboratory for Computer Science, MIT

>> Why would any American bother vegetable gardening when we have such
>> abundant, cheap food?  We know you love gardening, Kay.  You just enjoy
>> being around living plants.  Don't give me that "slob-gardener"
>> least-effort crap!  How about explaining to us what you *really* get out
>> of gardening?  :-)
>
>(Kay, I hope you don't mind me defending you.)  Doug what's your point
>here.  I think Kay talks about what she gets out of gardening all the
>time.  I also feel very fortunate that she likes to share her knowledge. 
>Your accusative tone sounds like you believe there are *evil* reasons
>for gardening or something.  Just what are you implying?
>> 
>> -=> Doug Hemken
>
>Jim (who hopes that this whole thing wasn't a joke and he didn't get
>it)

_I_ thought it was a joke, or anyway a (gentle) elbow in the ribs kind of 
joshing.

Nice of you to jump to Kay's defense, but I don't think she needs/needed 
any help.  She's pretty good at defending herself when necessary.

--Jill
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From: C11815@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Josette Giacobbi)
Subject: Re: Tobasco Recipe Wanted
Organization: Motorola
Date: 10 Sep 1992 09:33:23 CDT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: C11815@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Josette Giacobbi)
Subject: Tobasco Recipe
Organization: Motorola
Date: 9 Sep 1992 12:57:19 CDT

------------------------- Original Article -------------------------
Xref: schbbs rec.gardens:7921 rec.food.cooking:20095
From: nrlfs1.nrl.navy.mil (Judy Karpen)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens,rec.food.cooking
Subject: Re: More (hot) pepper questions
Date: 8 Sep 92 16:57:40 GMT
Organization: NRL

In answer to the couple of recent postings about hot peppers and tomatoes:

1) The latest issue of Organic Gardening (OG) has a recipe for making hot sauce
Tabasco), which can be stored in the refrigerator for a long time.  I just tried
it to use up some of the Thai hot peppers starting to inundate my kitchen, and i
seems to work although I think the number of peppers needs to be increased for
the little varieties like the Thai ones (to improve the texture).  Anyway, if yo
interested I'll email you or post a condensed version (the original text is
rather chatty and too long to type verbatim).

2) I'm not 100% sure, but I think the cracks in the peppers are due either to ex
(e.g., alot of rain) or to uneven watering (like alternating periods of too much
too little rain). I've seen the same thing, too, although the little Thai
peppers tend to burst when they get overwatered.

3) According to several sources (OG, cookbooks, etc.) and my personal experience
it's OK to freeze tomatoes whole if you intend to use them for cooking later. In
fact, they peel (if you insist on doing that) easier when frozen, since that usu
cracks the skin anyway. Just plop into boiling water for a few seconds as usual.
Another tip from OG: if you're making tomato sauce, don't bother peeling them, j
put quartered tomatoes in a food processor and chop to bits.  The peel is small
enough to be unnoticeable in the final product, unless you prefer baby food...

BTW, I just discovered this group, and am wondering if there also is an existing
group (or enough interest in forming one) devoted to organic gardening. Thanks!

                                                                  Judy

Judy, Glad to find another organic gardener our there.  I have been
organic forever, but 18 yrs at my present location in South Carolina.
Anyone else out there???Thanks,    josette
Judy, some people want the tabasco recipe. Is it too long to print??
               Thanks, Josette

From: tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:51:59 GMT
Subject: Re: fruit trees from seeds
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: rec.gardens

ramirez@julia.math.ucla.edu (Alice Ramirez) writes:

>If you want simply good, reliably fruiting trees, go to 
>a reputable local nursery (Personally I do not recommend the garden centers
>hooked up to big home improvement warehouses, but dedicated nurseries) and
>buy a named variety. If you go in early spring you can buy these bareroot for
>very modest cost.

I'll second this and all the rest Alice wrote.  I'd also note that at
least in this area, there are nurseries that _specialize_ in fruit
trees.  One I'm thinking of has demonstrations of pruning, and publishes
a small catalog that's as much a guide to taking proper care of fruit,
nut and berry plants in this area as it is a catalog.  They even sell
rootstock for those who get into doing their own grafting.  This place
is quite localized, and emphasizes plants that are best adapted to the
Puget Sound area.  I'd think it likely that at least _some_ other areas
have similar places.  After you wait perhaps five years for a tree to
bear fruit, you kinda forget whether you paid $5 or $15 for it, and
realize that the time you spent pruning it to get the proper shape, and
planting it in the proper place with proper soil preparation, etc., are
more important than the purchase price.
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: What is corn ?
Date: 9 Sep 92 17:24:29 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <STNGIAM.92Sep9145053@m66-509-1.mit.edu>, stngiam@athena.mit.edu (Shih-Tung Ngiam) writes:
>    The cereal known as corn in the US is called maize in England.  But
> the English also grow a crop called corn.  What is that (English corn) ?

I was always told that the most prominent grain crop in a region was
"corn"-- of course, in North America, our main grain is maize.  But it
confused me as a kid to run across references to "corn" in the bible
or such, and *know* that Zea mays was a New World native...

Oh well, I'm always having to explain that the prices for "beans"
on the radio in the midwestern US refers to soybeans (Glycine), not
string beans (Phaseolus).

Kay
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From: kathleen@casbs.Stanford.EDU (Kathleen Much)
Subject: Re: Wildflowers to Naturalism
Organization: Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences
Distribution: rec.gardens
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 23:05:10 GMT

In article <VSUMMERS.92Sep11122156@polaris.cv.nrao.edu> vsummers@polaris.cv.nrao.edu (Vince Summers) writes:
> So I will unsubscribe from rec.gardens after finishing with this post.


HOSANNA! Now let's get back to roses and muscari and raccoons.

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From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Subject: Re: plant root hormones?
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 21:22:32 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

I've also used Rootone with good success.  I think it's also a good idea
to use a B1 solution like SuperThrive to encourage rooting.

I used both on some Serissa Foetida cuttings (for bonsai) and they are 
doing well...  In fact, some of the cuttings are putting out roots way 
up above the soil level.

Not an expert --  just an FYI anecdote.

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From: brighid@bass.lkw.com (Brighid)
Subject: Re: freezing pesto
Organization: Lakewood Corporation
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1992 13:50:19 GMT


Simple stuff! In your blender or food processor, process the
basil/parsley/spinach/etc with olive oil. (The amount required
for your recipe or less - enough to coat all the plant bits
plus a bit more).

Pop the greens plus oil mixture into a freezer ziploc bag or
plastic container. Into the freezer!

When January hits and you have nothing planned for supper, take
the frozen stuff out to defrost while your at work or defrost it
in the microwave.

We've kept basil/spinach frozen this way for 6-8 mos. with no
problem.

Be gald you've got a lot of basil!

Brighid

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Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Propogating Ficus Benjamina
From: A.S.Chamove@massey.ac.nz (A.S. Chamove)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 02:56:09 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
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In fig country a tiny fly enters the fig and then goes to another
where the fertilisation takes place. I do not think these flies are
present in the USA and therefore your figs are sterile, that is do
not have seeds.  Most figs also go through the digestive tract of
animals, although I do not know how important this is to their
hatchability. 
I suggest you use cuttings instead.

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From: louiset@informix.com (Louise Twiggs)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Iris - How big?
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:34:08 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.
Originator: louiset@cheetah

I fear I may have mislead some of you in my last posting (Jim, thanks
for your reply - I tried to mail you back, but got bounced).

I was asking for the eventual height of an Iris - which I called
Bronze Beauty.  My memory had failed me, it was actually an Iris
called Bronze Queen.

Does anyone therefore know the height of Bronze Queen.

Thanks

Louise Twiggs
Informix Software Ltd (UK)
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From: Doug.Hemken@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Doug Hemken)
Subject: Re: why bother with corn?!! or canning or . . .
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:23:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.094236.6628@iscsvax.uni.edu> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>. . . . for that matter, why do we grow 
>anything when we can buy it at the store, buy it at the florist's,
>buy it at the ...  Or why sew?  Or can?  Or write?

This being the first year I've tried to can anything in quantity, I
especially ask myself why anyone would can what they can buy in a grocery
store!!  Sure my tomatoes taste better than store-bought, yes I enjoy the
completeness of putting up something I raised from seeds I saved, ok so I
get satisfaction from the sight of shelf full of red jars (w/ the
occassional yellow).  But it's hot grueling work, and its not an economic
neccessity like it was when my grandmother put up *hundreds* of quarts of
things.  Have I taken leave of my sense?  I used to be so efficient and
economical . . . .

-=> Doug Hemken

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From: jhb@calmasd.prime.com (Jim Bishop)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: cheese in frozen pesto?
Date: 13 Sep 92 17:48:40 GMT
Organization: -

In article <24958@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, 
cusanell@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Dominic Cusanelli) writes:
> 
>   OK, now that we've changed the subject from "cheese in pesto"
> to "nuts in pesto" - I had to put my 2 cents worth in again.
> My wife and I experimented with all different kinds of nuts
> in our pesto (traditional pine nuts, walnuts, cashews, and
> pistachios).  We found that we like the pistachio flavor
> best of all.  Yes it does change the overall flavor - but
> we think for the better.  

Did you use unsalted pistachio nuts and if so, where did you find
them?  I would think salted pistachio nuts would be too salty.
Sometimes I use walnuts or almonds.

> (Oh I tried peanuts also)  Has
> anyone else experimented with untraditional flavors in
> their pesto?  I've always used the Italian sweet basil, but
> next year I'm thinking of doing some fooling around with other
> basil varieties - any suggestions.

I've tried lemon, sweet Italian, holy, lettuce leaf, and cinnamon
basil in pesto.  They all come out tasting about the same.  The lemon
basil was somewhat tart and took much longer to make because of the
smaller leaves.

Jim
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From: andy@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Andy Hart)
Subject: Re: Propogating Ficus Benjamina
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 04:57:52 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

Several years ago I bought a Ficus Benjamina tree about 4 feet tall.
One year, it put out these little "balls" which were about 7 or 8 mm
in diameter.  It produced copious quantities of these.  They would dry
up and fall off.  It drove me nuts because it constantly littered the 
living room.  After that year they went away, never to return.

Is that what they were?  Figs???  I never knew if they were seeds or 
some sort of insect infestation, or what.


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From: ehwd@sherman.pas.rochester.edu (Eric Howard)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: freezing pesto
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:05:44 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester

In article <gef=INr0Bwx209NQQq@transarc.com> Linda_Walmer@transarc.com writes:
>
>
>I have an abandance of basil in my garden.  We decided to learn to make
>pesto this year, and someone told us we needed a lot of basil.  So, we planted
>A LOT!  Anyway, I was told that I could make pesto without the cheese added,
>and then freeze it in ice cube trays.  Then during the winter, I could
>add the cheese and presto, pesto.  Has anyone tried this?  Do I thaw the
>cubes?  to room temp?  before adding the cheese.  How long are these cubes
>good?
>
>Thanks,
>Linda

You don't even need to do this. You can just freeze the pesto as is, thaw 
the cubes (or whatever you are freezing it in) until the pesto is spreadable
and just use it. If you toss it w/ hot pasta, you can just cut off frozen
hunks and add it to the pasta. 

I would suggest having enough oil to slightly over the top of the pesto
before you freeze it to prevent freezer burn on the top.

eric
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Re: Asparagus xplant? 
From: A.S.Chamove@massey.ac.nz (A.S. Chamove)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 03:19:09 GMT
Organization: Massey University, Palmerston North, New Zealand
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Transplant asparagus when the foliage dies down--autumn.
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