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Date: Thursday, 23 Jul 1992 16:32:58 EDT
From: <34AEJ7D@CMUVM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Distribution: usa
Subject: Re: job application
 <84122@netnews.upenn.edu> <162@bbx.basis.com>

In article <162@bbx.basis.com>, scott@bbx.basis.com (Scott Amspoker) says:
>
>In article <84122@netnews.upenn.edu> rpatel@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Rachana D
>Patel) writes:
>>
>>WHat about driver's license or social security number?
>>Do you have to provide each form of identification for all forms
>>they ask.
>>Do places have the right to right down your driver's license number?
>>And if they do have it what could be the worst scenario?
>
>I've never tried this but why not indicate on your application that
>your SSN will be provided upon the offer of employment.  As someone
>who interviews and hires job applicants, I certainly wouldn't be
>put off by such a thing.

SSN usage is governed by rather specific federal regs. A prospective
employer can ASK for it, but cannot enforce the request legally (not even
with the old we-won't-process-your application-without-it scam). Some
try, and get away with it until someonetakes them to task for it. The
University of North Carolina used to do this (I know from personal
experience and from reading complaints from others on the net about it)
but they may have mended their ways by now.

W. K. Gorman

Newsgroups: alt.privacy
From: wb8foz@skybridge.SCL.CWRU.Edu (David Lesher)
Subject: Re: California Drivers License
Reply-To: wb8foz@skybridge.scl.cwru.edu (David Lesher)
Organization: NRK Clinic for habitual NetNews abusers - Beltway Annex
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 00:58:34 GMT

Others said
# Go out and get a passport.  They are the ultimate legal ID and they
# don't tell anybody shit except that you are who you say you are.
# There is also a mystique about passports that makes sales clerks
# very sober.

I agree. I've used this for years.

In fact, I have shown my driver's license ONCE in the last 3
years. Who saw it? Hertz - they DO have a valid reason to see
it. 
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From: bill@hacktic.nl (Bill Squire)
Newsgroups: alt.privacy
Subject: Re: California Drivers Licences
Date: 30 Jul 92 05:58:11 GMT
Organization: Hack-Tic Magazine

ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck) writes:

>    Anyone want to take bets on how long it will be before the CRC algorithm
> is broken? :-) 

full details of the magnetic card spec can be obtained at:
ANSI (American National Standards Institute)
1430 Broadway
New York, NY 10018
tel: +1 212 354 3340

Will this allow those unfortunate enough to be under 21 and living in
California, the privilage to get a drink?  I'm afraid the old tryed and
true fake ID will still need to be used!  If you don't want to write the
magstripe (its not that hard) why bother?  Just keep it in one of those
magnetic wallets, a good excuse!  Better yet, if your under 21, just come
here to Europe, where anyone over 16 gets in a bar, and there are no
goons to enforce it either!  BTW if under 25, you get a very nice discount
on the trains, and therefore need not worry about ever having to drive!

                                                        Bill
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: JHIATT@130.187.170.178 (JOHN HIATT)
Subject: Re: Joe Satch Reviews?
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 04:57:36 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

In <1992Jul21.205901.8944@nmt.edu> ehobbs@nmt.edu writes:
> Has anyone heard his new album yet?  If so, review it, please!!!!!!!

  Read the article posted as:  * New Joe Satriani *

John Hiatt   JHIATT@GEMINI.SIM.ES.COM
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:10:58 -0400 
From: "Joshua M. Sabloff" <jsa5+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Censorship in the 90's

> Did anyone else get upset over the recent announcement that Ice-T made?

YES!  I'm not so sure about the way he gets his message across, but he
shouldn't have let the public get to him.  One reason that he supposedly
gave for pulling the track is that he didn't want to look like he was
capitalizing on the controversy.

Luckily for all us first-amendment followers out there, Ice T intends to
hand the song (either the old album or as a single) out for free at
concerts etc.  

The whole thing still is disappointing.

-Josh Sabloff
"We are the keepers of the three sacred words:
 Nee, Pen, and Nee-wom"
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From: rone@nunki.usc.edu (Ron Echeverri)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.flame
Subject: Re: the worst genesis song
Followup-To: alt.flame
Date: 31 Jul 1992 02:22:17 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: nunki.usc.edu

In article <1992Jul29.210936.20655@rchland.ibm.com> ehrhart@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jeffrey Ehrhart) writes:
>   Nothing against Genesis.  I've liked their singles the first 10 times
>I hear the song (usually it's the day the single is released).  But the
>next 100 times eventually makes me hate the song.  

This means that you play the song about 10 or 20 times and then you sell or
burn the CD/tape, right?

5150
i don't even want to know if Jeff likes sex or not
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>    Last one I've seen was Let's Buzz - which disappointed me somewhat. I also
>    have YSY. How is the self-titled album? Should I hunt it down?

I thought the self-titled album was great.  I was disaapointed w/ YSY.
So I guess you should hunt it down.

Jon
From: fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Emerson, Lake, & Palmer's Black Moon (?)
Date: 30 Jul 92 20:50:24 GMT
Organization: Right Bleedin' Church of Libertine Obfuscatology

In <1992Jul30.174742.18245@ncsu.edu> askoonce@unity.ncsu.edu (Tony Koonce) writes:

>Has anyone had the chance to listen to Emerson, Lake, & Palmer's Black Moon?
>Is it any good? I've heard only the title cut but wasn't impressed.  How's the
>rest of the album?

I heard some of it playing in a record store.  I wanted to puke.
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From: wombat@claris.com (Scott Lindsey)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: ELP Atlantic Years CD compilation
Date: 23 Jul 92 04:50:40 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll
Organization: Claris Corporation, Vancouver WA
Wombat: yes
Number: 46461

In article <l6p6nrINN3bh@manx.cs.utexas.edu>, dhs@cs.utexas.edu (Douglas H. Steves) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Jul20.233130.7709@dsg.tandem.com> msg@DSG.Tandem.COM (Maitreya Sengupta) writes:
> >	I saw the new 2-CD 'Emerson Lake & Palmer : The Atlantic Years' set in
> >record stores this weekend. ...
> 
> The sound quality of the pressing is quite good. (I have been told in the
> past that the original ELP masters were destroyed in a fire at Keith 
> Emerson's house - apparently this was not true.)
> I liked the song selection, but I'm not a hardcore ELP fan, and so
> your mileage may vary. 

I too had heard that many original masters were destroyed.  What makes you say
otherwise?  Digital processing these days can do wonders for poor masters.
The selection is actually pretty good for hardcore fans, unlike the previous
greatest hits album.  This contains things like Tarkus, and Karnevil 9 intact,
Take a Pebble, Pirates, Fanfare (edited).

The segue from K9 2nd Imp pt1 to pt2 is better than on BSS, but still not
perfect.  It starts to fade a little, then the volume comes back up and goes
into part 2.  The segue is shorter than what they did live and shorter than
what you might expect listening to the original and putting them together.

I still haven't listened to it carefully (headphones, etc), but overall it
sounds pretty good.


--
Scott Lindsey <wombat@claris.com>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Roger Glover request
From: cmacdonald@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:05:57 EDT
Organization: Wesleyan University

Hi there!

I'm looking for a Roger Glover tape (or something) that has a song called "Take
Off The Mask". I would love to arrange some kind of trade or compensation or
payment foe a copy of this. Also, what other band was Roger Glover in? Feel
free to post to me or here in this group.

Many Thanks!!!!
From: mwhanley@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Hanley)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Bands with self-titled songs?
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:16:34 GMT
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY


    A step further, bands with self-titled songs on a self-titled
album:
	Bad Company
	Living in a Box

-matt
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: was28667@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (palamino)
Subject: Re: Niel Young
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:43:47 GMT

Ryan Tanner <tannerr@CS.ORST.EDU> writes:

>Aren't you refering to Arc and Weld?  Haven't listened to it myself.  What's
>it like?  I picture it being like Ragged Glory.  Am I right?  How about 
>some feedback on how this album sounded?  Kinda expensive for me right now,
      ^^^^^^^^

Ha! That's funny!  And you say you haven't heard them yet?

I only own Weld (I think - I can never keep the two names straight) - it's a
good live album with harder, more distorted versions of a lot of tunes.  I
listened to Arc once at a local store - imagine tying a highly distorted 
guitar to a rack and stretching it till it screams.

Seeing that concert finally explained why he likes Sonic Youth...

>Ryan (tannerr@prism.cs.orst.edu)


-palamino
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From: bufalini@beyond.gis.psu.edu (Bruce A Bufalini)
Subject: Re: Favorite Genesis Songs (Was Re: the worst genesis song)
Reply-To: bufalini@beyond.gis.psu.edu (Bruce A Bufalini)
Organization: Pep$i $tate Univer$ity
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 23:12:38 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.213337.14754@ctr.columbia.edu>, jerry@connection.prospect.com (Jerry Shekhel) writes:
>Hey, HEY!  Enough of this "worst" stuff!  How about your favorite Genesis
>songs?  Mine are:
>
>	-- Got a Job To Do
>	-- Home By The Sea
>	-- All of the first side of Abacab (esp. Me And Sarah Jane)

Man of Our Times
Turn it on Again
Domino
Silver Rainbow
In the Cage
Home by the Sea

I could go on and on and on, but.....

Bruce
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                                          |
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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: shea@ntmtv.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Subject: Re: Live TV
Organization: Northern Telecom, Mountain View, CA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:06:11 GMT

In article <7159@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu>, tiverson@ds5000.DAC.Northeastern.edu (Thor Iverson) writes:
>
>Yeah, well it would be hard for a live TV show to avoid that, wouldn't it?
>Sorry if I sound like I'm flaming--I'm not.

I'm not sure about Saturday Night Live, but most live shows (at least
on radio) operate on a 7-second delay, so that the director/engineer/whoever
has time to block the transmission of nasties.  You'll hear it happen a lot
on talk radio...some guy with a fruitcake quality to his voice will go
"Hiya, Larry, guess what?", then there'll be an odd silence (where they've
blotted out what the guy said) then one of Larry's  standard putdowns
before he goes to the next caller.


-- 
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From: milliken@scofield.Corp.Sun.COM (Gary Milliken)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.alternative,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Songs that mention other groups (was: Bands with self-titled songs)
Date: 22 Jul 1992 18:41:29 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: scofield.corp.sun.com


On Steely Dan's album "The Royal Scam", there's a song titled (I think...)
"Everything You Did" in which a guy is suspecting that his girlfriend has
had another man in the house, and wants her to tell him "everything you
did" (it actually turns him on to think of it).  At one point, as the
argument gets louder, he says "Turn up the Eagles, the neighbors are
listening."
From: lester@soldev.tti.com (jim)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: Re: Songs that mention other groups
Summary: Kinks "The Road"
Date: 25 Jul 92 04:51:58 GMT
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.

In article <Brw4Bu.3n8@newcastle.ac.uk> Chris.Brunsdon@newcastle.ac.uk (C. Brunsdon) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.161401.10618@athena.mit.edu> ericrand@athena.mit.edu (Eric V Randall) writes:
>>Mott the Hoople mentions T.Rex in "All the Young Dudes"
>It mentions The Beatles and The Stones also.
In The Kinks' "The Road," not to be confused with "Life On the Road,"
they mention Who, The Led Zeppelin and Free.
"I Hear You Knockin'" by (Nick Lowe? Rockpile?) mentions several early
rock-n-rollers: Chuck Berry, Smiley Lewis & others.
Van Morrison's "Jackie Wilson Said" mentions JW in the first line.
Van also mentions Hank Williams in a song (Hard Nose the Hiway?);
And he tips his hat to "Nelson Riddle strings" in the same song.
Randy Newman relates his conversation with Mr. Bruce Springsteen in
"My Life is Good."
Eric Burden's "Monterey" mentions a slew or rockers from Hugh Masakela to
the Grateful Dead, including Hendrix & Who.
-Jim
Jim Lester  (an employee)               Citicorp slash TTI
90405  (310)450-9111, x2209             {csun,philabs}!ttidca!lester
			 "Thunder is good, thunder is impressive,
			  but it is lightning that does the work."  - M. Twain
From: "richard fecteau" <richard.fecteau@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Subject: kansas lyrics
Date: 26 Jul 92 16:36:03 EST
Reply-To: "richard fecteau" <richard.fecteau@channel1.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Channel 1 Communications


 Would some Kansas fan be kind enough to mail me the lyrics to their first 
album? I don't have ftp capability. Thanks,

Rich
richard.fecteau@channel1.com

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: magnus@nexto.udac.uu.se (Magnus Ring)
Subject: Re: Where to find Meatloaf
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:48:24 GMT

In article <92209.091937DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET> <DGRAHAM@HARPERVM.BITNET>  
writes:
> Last October or so I started asking about available Meatloaf albums and  
such.
> So far by working through a couple of different record stores around  
here
> (Chicago) I have only been able to dig up two, Hits out of Hell and Dead  
Ringer
> Since I already have Bat Out of Hell, I believe I need to get Bad  
Attitude and
> Midnight at the Lost and Found since his new one hasn't come out yet.  
None of
> the people that I have been working with can find these albums though.  
Is there
> anybody out there who knows any distributors or record stores that still  
have
> these CDs so I can get them ordered. If so can you please mail me their  
address
> and or fax number it would be much appreciated.
> 
>     Thanks in advance to any help
> 
>         Dave

There's a live album with Meatloaf that you ought to get too. I'm not
sure about the name right now but I suppose it's something like "Meatloaf 
Live" or so. And don't forgett the new album (to be released in August)  
where Meatloaf and Jim Steinman once again work together. 
And speaking of Steinman, if you like Meatloaf I'm almost sure you'll like
his "Bad For Good" album and the album he did as "Pandora's Box".

/Magnus Ring 
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu (Griffy)
Subject: Re: lollapalooza
Reply-To: tabn3@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 16:44:37 GMT

In article <13559@mindlink.bc.ca>, Lawrence_Zorz@mindlink.bc.ca (Lawrence Zorz) writes:
>Anyone out there been to the lollapalooza "festival" doing the tour circut? I'm
>expecting to see it this coming tuesday in vancouver and am curious re: others
>opinions about what we are in for (for instance - just exactly what the heck
>are "hallucination tents" anyway?).

   Well, I heard on eMpTyV that they are going to have a bungee jumping area at
the concerts, which would be cool, but I don't know how much they're charging  
to do it though (quite a bit I imagine).

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
From: ghogen@kreon.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Guido Hogen)
Subject: Re: Gabriel
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 25 Jul 92 11:41:17 GMT

I've read that the first single from Gabriel's _US_ will be a 
ballad together with Sinead O'Connor.

Guido

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: a2824ag@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Riaan de Jager)
Subject: New Satriani in Europe?
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:04:26 GMT

Hi

Does anyone know if the new Satriani is available in Germany or England yet.
Burning to hear it!

Thanks. Riaan.
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From: dan@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,alt.music.rush,alt.music.progressive
Subject: Re: Proposal for alt.music.queensryche
Date: 28 Jul 92 12:14:15 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

In article <0095DD60.64956900@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, gjs8818@Msu.oscs.montana.edu (Jared Shockley) writes:

> Queensryche is a much different sound than rush;

This is true.

> they are almost a Pink-Floyd sound.

This is ridiculous! Have you even listened to any of their other albums other 
than Empire? Have you even listened to any of their other songs other than 
Silent Lucidity? I doubt it. Listen to their first album (an EP) or their third 
(The Warning) and THEN tell me they sound even remotely like Pink Floyd. What a
joke! I wish people would fully evaluate a band before making these kinds of 
comparisons.

> get back to talking about the best band in the world, RUSH!!.

This is an opinion. Thank you for expressing it.

Dan
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Subject: Info Wanted
From: migrant@wierius (Michael Malone)
Date: 17 Jul 92 09:21:50 GMT

Does anyone know what every become of the lead singer for the Bay Area Band,
Cold Blood?  Her name was Lydia Pence, and she has a a voice that was beautiful.
 Harse, and agressive but always in control.
 
Anyone know anything?
 
Mike
 
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 10:42:14 -0400 
From: Thomas.Sullivan@cs.cmu.edu
Subject: Re: * Where's Vince now? *
	<1992Jul20.190418.3947@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu>

> Excerpts from netnews.alt.rock-n-roll: 20-Jul-92 Re: * Where's Vince
> now? * BUI/DON/MR@ee470.ee.mcgi (882)

> Motley Crue : R.I.P.

> This was once the best metal band on the planet.

>                                             - Don

In my opinion (yeah, I know, nobody asked) Motley Crue can only improve
with a new singer.  I think Vince has one of the most annoying voices in
rock.  I'm bummed a guitarist of Steve Stevens caliber would hook up with
him.  I saw the Atomic Playboys and they were great.  

--Tom

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll,rec.music.misc
From: mcmahan@cs.unca.edu (Scott McMahan -- Genesis mailing list owner)
Subject: Re: Gabriel
Organization: University of North Carolina at Asheville
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 17:08:34 GMT

ghogen@kreon.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Guido Hogen) writes:
: I've read that the first single from Gabriel's _US_ will be a 
: ballad together with Sinead O'Connor.

Where did you read this?

I hope it's just someone's idea of a sick joke.

Scott

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: tony@ais.org (Tony Poole)
Subject: Pearl Jam - Jeremy
Followup-To: alt.rock-n-roll 
Summary: lyrical mutilation 
Keywords: harmless little FUCK 
Organization: University of Michigan Computing Club (UMCC)
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 02:46:06 GMT



This is an intense video.

Kinda amusing though, MTV has their own lyrics for the song:

Clearly I remember
Picking on the boy
Seemed a harmless little 
[etc]

Now, what exactly is a little, much less a harmless one?

heh....





3:30 in the afternoon
an affluent suburb
64 degrees and cloudy




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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll
From: shea@ntmtv.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Subject: Re: Tipper Gore
Organization: Northern Telecom, Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:22:58 GMT

In article <BrDzJC.18u@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>	I was watching some political analyst discuss this issue last
>	night, and he said that after being initially very anal about
>	the whole thing in 1985, Tipper later backed off a bit
>	while the PMRC kept up its crusade.  


This wouldn't have anything to do with her husband's campaign for
president in 1988, now, would it?


>	As the father of some
>	youngsters, I have mixed feelings about the whole stickering
>	thing.  I personnally think it's insulting, but when these
>	little buggers get bigger and start buying stuff, I might
>	like it...  

Yeah, anything that'll save you the time & trouble of really getting
to know what your kids are doing must be a good thing.

>	If you are worried about Tipper having some influence
>	on the presidency, forget it.  Hell, the VP himself has little or
>	no influence!

Well, Nancy Reagan had a whole hell of a lot of influence on the presidency
when she was first lady, and if Clinton/Gore wins, Tipper will be only
a heartbeat away...


>	If I remember correctly, most of the record labels voluntarily
>	began to sticker after this thing came up...


They voluntarily began labelling to avoid the possibility of 
labelling being mandated by law.  This is also how we got
"voluntary" movie ratings.


-- 
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founder, Team Twinkie	      		you got a problem with that?
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