HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: geirs@cs.hw.ac.uk (Geir Solvang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Date: 23 Nov 92 18:34:48 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computing & Electrical Engineering, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article 22552@drutx.ATT.COM, jb@parkcity.dr.att.com writes:

>to prefer to make the choice on our own.  Personally, I feel that
>if someone doen't want to wear one that's ok, I just feel that the
>tax payer or other payers of insurance premiums should not have to
>support him or her as a vegatable if they survive an accident but
>are incapcitated.  Just seems like natural selection in action to
>me.

Yep! Sounds perfect, especially if you are from the states and "all" that
matters for a lot of people (you included) is the bloody tax.
(Sorry, but I could restrain myself no longer :-) )

>Quite frankly, you should join me and your
>other Celtic brothers and sisters over here where we don't have to
>bow to an ENGLISH queen.

Hmm, why should I do anything like that? I'm from Norway!

>Unless of course, you have a special attraction to queens in general.

Nice one ljb! :-)

Geir

| Geir Solvang
| Email: geirs@cee.hw.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
From: c150-bt@po.berkeley.edu (Manish Vij)
Subject: Re: WHAT WAS IT?
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:01:30 GMT

In article <1emi6oINNlql@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>
>In a previous article, cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) says:
>
>>In article <1dpv8sINNfhm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>>>saw an interesting bike today....first..some facts..i'm a wanna be
>>>biker..sort of..never had one..but i love bikes..and like to read
>>
>>     [stream-of-consciousness posting deleted]
>>
>>>variations..and maybe some performance specs for it..just to satisfy my
>>>curiostiy..email'd be nice.but posting is ok too..thanx!
>>
>>This must be the guy that wrote Bush's speeches.
>>
>
>you wanna tell me why?, and whether or not that is a compliment?
>thanx for the help
>DREW
>-- 
>??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
>?????????????????????????????????-----whatever!

^^^^^^^ This guy must've written Bush's domestic policy, too.

Do not know love when the spring flowers bloom
An inch of love is an inch of ashes.
                                          - T'ang dynasty poem
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: 2-strokes (was:Re: REQUEST: short fella has a question or two...
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 11:57:31 GMT

Jody Levine (jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca) wrote:
: This is really getting silly now...
: 
: Nick, the British biker who works for a Canadian company writes:
: >Roland Besserer (roland@quadsys.com) wrote:
: >: fist@iscp.Bellcore.COM (Richard Pierson) writes:
: >: >jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
: >: >|> roland@quadsys.com (Roland Besserer) writes:
: >: >|> >Imported into Britain it's about 3400 pounds
: >: >|> 
: >: >|> Wow, try to back that out of a parking space!
: >: >|> 
: >: > Back it out you say, me I'd stick an 8 foot flag on its
: >: >center stand lever, maybe even add a boom and sail to it.
: >: >What a boat that must be.
: >: 
: >: You guys are a scream.
: >
: >Listen, you smug yankee dorks!
: 
: First of all, I can't be a *Yankee* dork, you imperial dog!
: 
: >If you can't tell the difference between pounds avoirdupoi and pounds sterling
:                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^s
: Second, I can spell in the Queen's English better than you can (despite the
: silly pronouciation)!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  

Oh dearie me!!!!!

Doesn't this conform to a DoD spelling flame rule? Whenever you flame somebody
for a spelling mistake, the software automatically misspells one of your words
to compensate.

BTW, I believe it's avoirdupoi's.  At least according to my Biker's addition
of the Concise Oxford.  Every biker should carry one.  We would be flagged 
down by worried citizens, concerned over a particular word meaning or spelling.
I can see it now, bikers advancing knowledge and culture throughout our
wonderful lands.  What a reputation we would build up for ourselves, how 
respectful we would become.  Every biker would carry around a small collection
of books such as a "decent" dictionary, a thesaurus, the complete works of
Shakespear and collected poems from significant poets.  Oh Brave New World,
what wonders will you bring?  

"How do you spell insignificant?"    "Hang on, I'll just nip outside and see 
if I can see a biker......"

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
 
: >then how can you tell the difference between gas petrol and gas state?  Eh? Eh?
: 
: Third, it's you pompous-arrogant-Brits-who-can't-take-a-joke who are passing
: all the gas around here!

Temper temper!

: 
: Pththththth!
: 
: And, since we in the colonies must spell everything out to you stupid gits, 
: :-) :-) 8-) :-) ;-) :-) *-) 8-) %-)!!!

Well it was going Ok until you decided you needed smilies.  What's wrong with
your English?  Smilies are for the masses!

: 
: (sorry, Roland)
: 
: I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV


Nick (the Complete Nutter Biker)   MAg 73516   DoD 1069  Cultural Collection.


M'Lud.
From: vlj@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Victor Johnson)
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:30:22 GMT
Subject: Re: Squash or slide?
Organization: Dances with Hawks
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles

In rec.motorcycles, azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward) writes:

> 
>OK folks, so whats the net wisdom (!) here? Do you slide and wear yourself away
>in a short red stain; or tuck up an roll to avoid the rash, travel further 
>and end up under an oncoming cage as a hedgehog impersonator?
> 
>For uneducated colonial irrigants, hedgehogs are spiny flat animals whose
>natural habitat is dark roads.

  My preference is along the lies of:

    E) None of the above.

  I always:

    1. Perform evasive maneuver to avoid going down.

    2. Wear Aerostitch to mitigate roadrash once down.  A slide is better
       than a roll since extremeties tend to fly out and get snapped in
       two when tumbling.
     
  Cheers,
  Victor "Dances with Cordura" Johnson
  ------------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: fog / driving lights
Keywords: visibility, amber or white, fog or driving
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 00:39:40 GMT

mbeaving@bnr.ca (The Beav) writes:

>  The only problem with driving or fog lights is that they
>are VERY annoyinh go the other drivers.

I would suggest that if this is a problem, the lights are improperly
mount or aimed. I've got an 80/100W halogen headlight in my FJ, and
while it punches a very large hole in the night, I've never had anyone
"bright" me when I'm on low beam. Since driving and fog lights are
intended to be mounted closer to the ground than headlights, they should
be less of a problem than an abnormally bright headlight.

I had been thinking of adding some driving lights to the FJ, but since I
put in the high power headlight, I just haven't felt the need. (It's
cheaper too! :-)
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Subject: Re: 2-strokes (was: Re: REQUEST: short fella has a question or two...
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 15:39:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <BxnuyM.Eo3@ccu.umanitoba.ca> klinger@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Jorg Klinger) writes:
>In <1992Nov12.222934.2542@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Nov12.215739.10125@rd.hydro.on.ca>, jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine) writes:
>>> In article <1992Nov11.172357.2534@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu> ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
>>>>
>
>>	Interesting...  shows you what I know about 2-strokes.  I would sure
>>like to see a current-tech streetable 2-stroke.  Sheah, good luck.  *sigh*
>
>  The Canadian spec. RZ350 from about 85 on (full fairing) is pretty
>damn current considering there were no significant design changes made.
>It produces a claimed 55 HP through different ignition, barrels, and
>crank than US version. I beleive it weighs in at 380 lbs wet. Shows what
>a lack of weight can do for a bike. Had Yamaha put a truly sophisticated
>suspension on it (TZR250,NS400) they'd still be making them today.

They are still making them today...Or at least they are still
selling brand new ones in Yamaha dealerships in Canada.

I own one.

The suspension is actually pretty good, and by upgrading the
shock, it can be made better. The real problem with the RZ is
that the frame and steering geometry are simply too conservative
to make full use of today's tires.

The RZ is a first rate motorcycle, fast, sweet handling, light
and pretty...The only real drawbacks are emmissions (two strokes
do pollute, I'm afraid, though the new tech coming out will
put a stop to that), and really shitty gas mileage.

I would be willing to guess that a totally reworked RZ350,
fresh from the drafting table, would run circles around anything
up to a GSXR750. The weight advantage of the simple motor,
the compact nature of the engine, and the fact that you get twice
as many power strokes (bang whoosh bang whoosh, as opposed to
bang whoosh compress bang whoosh compress bang), make it an
inherently superior design for power production.

The compact nature of the motor allows it to be more
advantageously placed in the frame for handling 
improvements.

Wonderful bikes. 

Regards, Charles
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung)
Subject: Re: What would you ride on a long distance trip?
Summary: R100GS/PD
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R&D, U. of Ill.
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 20:45:27 GMT

brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady) writes:
>Recently I've been thinking about taking a long distance solo ride -- a ride to
>Alaska from my home in New Hampshire. I'd ride the Trans-Alaska Hwy through
>...
>into the Pacific Northwest, then trundle my way back across the USA to New
>England.
>...
>So here is your essay question -- what would you ride on a 10,000 mile trip?
>Pencils up... and begin.

The perfect bike for this trip is the R100GS/PD.  300+ mile range and
plenty of carrying capacity.  Not to mention the dirt capability.  I
find it comfortable enough to go 300+ miles non-stop.  YMMV.

Bruce
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: root@june.cmp.rpi.edu (J.R. Ordon)
Subject: water-proofing gloves
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:40:13 GMT

I'd like to waterproof my leather riding gloves.
I have not seen much in the way of waterproofing products for gloves.
I'm wondering if products like "camp dry" , which is used to waterproof
leather workboots, could be used on gloves. Has anybody out there used
these products sucessfully on gloves???

--------------------------------------------
J.R. Ordon     '80 CB750C

the views expressed here are mine & not my employers
From: ae219rh@prism.gatech.EDU (Ray Hixon)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Engine "Blueprinting"?
Date: 19 Nov 92 16:07:35 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <1992Nov18.145051.10248@rtsg.mot.com> svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda) writes:
>I have heard the term "blueprinting", as applied to engine
>rebuilds many times, without comprehension, but now, as I am 

Engine blueprinting is basically where you try to take out the
manufacturing errors in your engine -- i.e., are the crank throws
where they should be (with a built-up crank), is the crank straight,
are the pistons the same weight, are the rods true, is the crank/rods
/piston assembly balanced properly, are the cylinders round (not tapered),
is the crank perpendicular to the cylinders, do the cylinders have the
same volume, etc. etc.

It's time consuming, and expensive, but if you want a good motor
with lots of power (for your motor), and a longer life (due to
less stress on the motor for a given output), then it's worth it.

Just:  BE SURE THAT THE SHOP YOU ARE WORKING THROUGH CAN DO THE
WORK CORRECTLY!  IF IN DOUBT, MAIL THINGS AWAY TO SHOPS THAT CAN
DO IT RIGHT!!!

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Ray Hixon
A Single-minded guy (but very well-balanced)
Shops that do my work:
   Machine work (piston, cylinder, etc.):  Star Racing, Americus, GA
   Assembly work:  Joe Hutcheson/RPM, Lithonia, GA
   Tuning work:  Kent Soignier/Cycle Nuts and Bolts, Clarkston, GA
   Riding/winning-or-crashing work:  Me, of course.
   Parts to fix it after:  Roswell Honda/Suzuki/Seadoo, Roswell, GA

-- 
Ray Hixon
Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta Georgia, 30332
uucp:	  ...!{decvax,hplabs,ncar,purdue,rutgers}!gatech!prism!ae219rh
Internet: ae219rh@prism.gatech.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: High speed in USA?
	<JET.92Nov13134907@boxer.nas.nasa.gov>
	<1e92s0INNcvk@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 16 Nov 92 14:23:32

"mparsons" == Mark Parsons <mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu> writes:
mparsons> Third, how do you know this fine, Eric? ;-)

No comment. :-)

mparsons> Come on Eric, let's get the facts straight! How do you live
mparsons> with yourself knowing you cannot keep facts straight in
mparsons> rec.moto??? ;-)

Are you kidding?  By having incorrectly read his post, and posting
unrelated information, I'm keeping with the spirit of rec.moto...

--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
               '92 R100R, DoD# 0378, BMWOA, AMA, ACLU, EFF, CPSR
                                "HotHead Rules!"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Passenger Clothing (how fascist are YOU?)
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 20 Nov 92 09:52:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * 501-985-0059 * Public Access Usenet


-> BR> I know I always wear my Defeat Level IIA Kevlar T-shirt when
-> flying.

> I wear Level III to work.

 I've heard of vicious office politics, but REALLY....


=======================================================================
can you help me...help me get out of this place?...slow sedation...
ain't my style, ain't my pace...giving me a number...NINE, SEVEN, EIGHT
(Nazareth)               XJ900 TURBO at 15psi          DoD# 978  KotFAQ
=======================================================================
From: shinh@nmr-z.mgh.harvard.edu (Shinjiro Hirose)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: red hot pipes of fire revisited!
Keywords: he wasn't kidding!
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:29:19 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Mass General Hospital NMR Imaging Center


Hi all,

Remember when someone with and EX500 was complaining about his exhaust header
glowing red?  (after "the wheelie incident")  Well, I have a friend
whose EX500 header pipes started to glow as well!

I guess he wasn't kidding...

-Shin 


-- 

Shin Hirose						1980 CB750-F
shinh@nmr-r.mgh.harvard.edu                         	1970 Porsche 914
DoD # 0670 						"the serpent was subtil"
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Going to Japan, Need Suggestions.
Date: 20 Nov 92 13:44:35 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

edw@boi.hp.com (Edward Walsh) writes:
: 
: 
: 
: My work is taking me to Japan in the near future. Some time in the past
: someone with a .Sig with Japanese in it wrote a description of the motorcycle
: shopping district in Tokyo, and if they are still on the net, or if anyone 
: saved that info, I would appreciate it if the information could be forwarded
: to me. Also I remember other descriptions of riding in Japan posted, plus at
: least a few people post from there. Any correspondence would be appreciated.
: I'll know my full travel plans Monday, 11/23. I'll also be in Miyota.
: This trip promises to be very full of work, but I think it would be
: exciting to say I went riding in Japan. I'd be happy to try to meet any DoD'ers
: over there.
: Oh, I picked up an international driving permit with a motorcycle endorsement
: :-) .
: 
: Also, there is a program called "Travels" on PBS, and last year there was
: program on a woman film-makers trip to a very beautiful, holy shrine in the 
: mountains.....does anyone remember that?
: 
: Finally, I'm moving my machine from one building to another, and our mail 
: server should be able to handle that without burping, but if mail bounces, try
: again after noon friday, 11/20.
: ------------------------------Edward Walsh----Hewlett-Packard Company-------
:                               edw@boi.hp.com  Disk Memory Division, MS213
:                               (208)323-2174   P.O. Box 39  Boise,Idaho 83707
:                               FJ1200'89,XZ550RJ(Vision)'82,DoD#98
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: zowie@daedalus.stanford.edu (Craig "Powderkeg" DeForest)
Subject: Re: Help with an electrical problem
Organization: Stanford Center for Space Science and Astrophysics
	<1992Nov13.192843.21103@midway.uchicago.edu>
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:21:09

In article <foo> kydd@quads.uchicago.edu (Andrew Kydd) writes:
   I had a similar problem with my bike and it turned out that the rectifier 
   was shorted, or so I was told.  It was replaced and now it charges fine.
   I did wonder if the price for the new rectifier ($90) was inflated or not.
   I am new to motorcycles and had no basis for comparison so I just paid
   what I was told to pay.  The bike is old though, a KZ400 from 1977.  
   Is this a reasonable price to pay?  
 
Typical (for stuff directly from Cow) yes.  Reasonable -- not for me.
I remember pricing KZ rectifiers at around $90 - $100 new, or $30-$60 at
a graveyard.  Depending on how much ca$h you have, the new one might be
a worthwhile investment; those things _do_ wear out eventually...

You can make your own rectifier for <$25 with parts from an electronic 
supply house.

In general, I *never* went to the Cow dealer if I could avoid it:
they're always hideously overpriced, IMHO.  I even machined a new idle
mixture pin for the starboard carburetor on my 79 KZ400 (after
learning never to adjust the carbs when the bike is moving... :-)
rather than buy one from them.  (I _did_ end up buying a new
carburetor piston-valve / vacuum diaphragm assembly for that
carburetor -- the old one had a pinhole, which was why it was running
rich in the first place.  $85 for a piece of metal with a disk of Viton
around it! But it was cheaper than buying a whole used carb assembly.)

I sold my KZ400 this last winter (apparently just in time because the
new owner forgot to feed it oil and it ate a valve!) and got a Honda
Magna.  The '400s are really easy to work on, and fun to ride, but I
got impatient with mine.  I like to drive long distances (like, from
San Francisco to El Paso), and the '400 really couldn't keep up
highway speeds all day with my 100-kilo carcass and another 50 kg of
stuff on the back.  Much as I enjoy the Magna 750, I still miss the KZ.
--
WARNING: At all times, keep rubber side *DOWN*
----
Craig DeForest -- astrophysicist for hire.  

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Subject: Re: Another fine product from the DoD
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:44:13 GMT

In a similar vein, I will soon be the recipient of a ....

                   ***********    DoD WATCH!    ***************

It's a quartz-powered wonder with a round face adorned by the Daemon himself in
a full color logo, just like the patches/stickers/etc.  Gold case, leather
band.  I am as yet unsure of the minimum ordering quantity or the price,
although the samples are under $20.

If there is any interest in owning one of these distinctive, high quality, 
precise chronometers, email/post and I'll look very seriously into it.

And, of course, as jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:

>As usual, proceeds from the sale would benefit the A.M.A. Motorcycle Museum
>in Columbus, Ohio.

>As always, you do not need to be a member of the DoD to order.

>If you are interested, please e-mail me!  If you don't have e-mail access,
>fine, post a reply, but this will be much easier for me if you e-mail
>your interest.  If a reasonable number of replies come in, I will post
>ordering information at a later date.  Read the prospectus carefully
>before investing or sending money...

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|        Cliff Weston           DoD# 0598          '92 Seca II (Tem)       |
|                                                                          |
|               This bike is in excellent condition.                       |
|               I've done all the work on it myself.                       |
|                                                                          |
|                     -- Glen "CRASH" Stone                                |
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
From: ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:11:53 GMT
Subject: Re: R100GS final drive trouble
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
From: leung@sp1.csrd.uiuc.edu (Bruce Leung)
Subject: Re: HELMETS
Organization: Center for Supercomputing R&D, U. of Ill.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 22:13:52 GMT

 randy@megatek.com writes:
> serafin@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mike Serafin) writes:
>| but don't try to justify your position by arguing the same tired
>|old vision and hearing theories.  A helmet does not limit your forward or
>|perpherial vision.  DOT requires all helmets to meet a minimum p-vision of 105
>|degrees, I don't know to many folks that have p-vision beyond 90 degrees.
>
[stuff deleted]
>
>  OK, do this for me.  Put your helmet on and without turning your *head*,
>just turn your eyes all the way to one side or another, and tell me that you
>can't see the edge of your viewport quite plainly.
>
>  Can't see your viewport?  If I were you, then, I'd make an appointment with
>my opthomologist ASAP before you hurt yourself.  If you CAN see your viewport
>edges, then how do YOU define "peripheral vision"?  *I* get a non-trivial
>
[stuff deleted]

I have to agree with Mike on this one.  Peripheral vision as defined
by my Webster's New World Dictionary (and how I've always thought of
it) is:

	the area of vision lying just outside the line of direct sight

My own working definition is that something is in my periph. vision if
I can see it without looking at it.  The outer edges of my viewport
are not in my periph. vision.

[much deleted]

I think Mike really pushed Randy's hot button.

Bruce
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