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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 22:33:16 EDT
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject: Re: wordsler birthdays
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>Isn't keeping track of people's birthday cruel and unusual punishment?
>
>Agnes
Yes. I would not have posted my own. Since someone else
did, I would deeply appreciate not having anyone send
me cards or whatever.

Sincerely,
judith, who is from a family where grownups didn't have
        birthdays
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From:         WERTSJ <WERTSJ%DIALOG@MCIMAIL.COM>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (58
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>> From:mgarber@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
>>
>> to those who read mostly mysteries....Please name your
>> favorites.

>Dell Shannon and Lesley Egan.)  Currently my favorites are Charlotte
>MacLeod (who also writes as Alisa Craig), Joan Hess, Dorothy Simpson, John
Oooh, Aunt Nancy, family will out.  I love Charlotte MacLeod's work,
particularly the Sarah Kelling (Bittersohn) series, and the ones she
wrote under the Alisa Craig pseudonym.

>ndh (who wishes she had a good new mystery to read instead of persuasive
>writing papers)

Lately, I've been reading a lot of mysteries written by women, with
female protagonists.  One of those phases, I guess.

I like the series by Carolyn G. Hart, about Annie Laurence, the
mystery bookstore owner.  There are a lot of in-jokes, referring
to other mysteries, and it can be fun trying to figure them out.
There are also the ones by Nancy Pickard, about Jenny Cain, the
director of a charitable foundation.

Give me time, I'll come up with more!

Jill
   (wertsj%dialog@mcimail.com)
From: maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU (Natalie Maynor)
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> Yeah, Natalie, it goes w/ everything you own!!!!:)
>
> Karen
> who *was* thinking of this color first

I hope the blues outvote the raspberries.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
     whose state gave birth to the blues...
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Date:         Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:19:00 EST
From:         "Alec D. Plotkin 215-645-4366" <185422285@WILD.VILL.EDU>
Subject:      RE: clambake pics
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>>Any ideas what to fill baby food jars with for gifts?  I just
>>couldn't throw the little buggers out and have pawned all I


>Fill each one with a $100 bill and send them to me. That'd make a great gift.

>-abh

This must be what the Republicans mean by trickle down economy.

later

alec
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Date:         Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:52:51 +0200
From:         torkel@SICS.SE
Subject:      A strange find
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  I usually leave one, two, or all three balcony doors open in the
apartment as I leave for "work". This lets a lot of nice air in, and
also, to be sure, a lot of dust, and the odd insect, although not too
many, since the apartment is on the seventh floor.  A fine white
powder tends to cover the floors, and strange creatures built from
fluff and lint appear in the corners. Nevertheless I prefer to have a
lot of openings into the apartment. Yesterday when I got home I found
on a table a single, small feather, gray with two dark spots. I looked
under the table and in the corners of the room for a bird with a
broken neck, but found nothing. Yet the only explanation I can come up
with for the appearance of the feather is that a bird came into the
apartment, put down a feather on the table, and then left. Inevitably
as I look on the feather I think of the magpie who left a feather on
my mother's balcony. Who else visits me when I am away, or lie sleeping?
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From: richh@netcom.com (richh)
Subject: Re: Father's Day, Anne, Father's Day
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 21:35:51 GMT
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Doris Smith <dorisann@TENET.EDU> writes:

>Richh, what a heartwarming story and loving thing to do.  Thank you for
>sharing that with us.

Be careful, Doris, or I'll almost feel <gasp> welcome.

RICHH
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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 17:18:32 EDT
From:         "Judith E. Schrier" <PRIMATE@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
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>> Oh, that one's *easy*! The ants eat the candy animals,
>> and the birds, when they stop singing, eat the ants,
>> now plump and delicious.
>
>        But.. what fattened the baby?

She ate the birds.

judith, who worries early
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Subject: Re: NUTS/KOTEX (was Gleanings 58)
Date: 10 Sep 92 03:36:29 GMT
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In a previous article, N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU (Gilbert Smith) says:

>> Klennex?  Ah - Kleenex.
Yup - Kleenex - the typo actually did confuse me for a few seconds.<grin>
>
>Well *excuuuuuuuuuse* *meeee* miss English Teacher  let me get out
>my dictionary to be sure I dont missspelll any more words we all
>know that a missspellled word is the sign of an uneducated person.
>doris, make this lady *stop* what she is doing!

Nyah, nyah, you can't make me!  No more pencils no more books, no more
teachers' vaudeville hooks!

<*yank*>
<fades out> 'guess I spoke too soon....'

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Date:         Sun, 13 Sep 1992 15:08:59 -0600
From:         The Ronin <WHITERJ%MSCD.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Subject:      Re: Hopefully

BWPiggeth Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>

>            You've also heard "it don't make no difference." That doesn't
> make the double negative a substitute for what we should say.

     But I distinctly remember being taught that the double negative
was used for greater emphasis prior to its algebraic/mathematical
interpretation.  Which is the one we 'should' say?

The Ronin
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 20:53:23 -0500
From:         Susan Harwood Kaczmarczik <amadeus@CCWF.CC.UTEXAS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Unuserfriendly
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> >I suspect the proper usage would be "user unfriendly" rather than
> >"un-user friendly."
> >
> >What do you think?


I think that "user friendly" would properly be written "user-friendly,"
like "little-known" or "well-deserved."  Then it would be perfectly all
right to say "un-user-friendly."

Why not just say what my husband told me:  User-hostile.

--Susan
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 19:43:07 EDT
From:         Rita Marie Rouvalis <rita@EFF.ORG>
Subject:      Re: Re[2]: SEX ID
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              "Carol_Carmick@beav.intersolv.com" at Sep 14, 92 1:12 pm

>      E-sex with a guy who can't find the Caps Lock key?  Please, Rita.
>      He might as well be wearing oven mitts.
>
>      Carol (who likes 'em grown up and literate)

	Well, sheesh.  If you're gonna be *picky* about it.
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In a previous article, tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU () says:

>>Actually, his real name probably isn't Samant at all.  Could it be Wooster?
>Mokshagundam Virupaaksha Takshakabhushana Kaamaakshivara.
>
Ahh yes, how could we have forgotten that?  Quite a nice name,really, if a
bit much for most USer bubble forms.....

>>A descendant of Bertie of mystery-reading fame?
>Bertie is not famous for reading mysteries.

Just for being one, eh?
>>                                                 This would explain a few
>>things.....you *do* speak the Queen's, don't you Tushar....
>King's, old girl.
>
Which King?  Fat Henry, no doubt, or maybe King Billy; he was from the
right era, and did somewhat resemble an elephant, after all....  

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Date:         Sat, 5 Sep 1992 23:17:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject: Re: family
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> > Today is better, I think, because I bought one of those ferocious
> > chipper/shredder/mulchers and have been feeding it sticks and
> > leaves and vines all day in the back yard.
> > I feel *good*!
>
> I'm glad, because your humor has been missed.
> Have you begun WHTMITL?  Your fans are awaiting it eagerly.
> Doris

Thanks....  I have been delayed because of the new toy, the
chipper/shredder/mulcher  and  I have to get into my library
porn mode, since only that will do justice to my experience while
researching our very own agnes.   I've also had to put a lot of
thought into how to get <ts> to love me again.
--ggs (wondering if he is still in said person's kill file...)
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From:         mgarber@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject:      Re: network mail addressing problem
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what is a bang path.?
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:44:14 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
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> You forgot to mention Derrida, and reading so-and-so in the original
> French.  Otherwise you're doing a fine job of following the ten
> commandments of one of your postings from last March. :-)

What are you talking about?  I'm lost.  What posting from last March?
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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Date:         Tue, 8 Sep 1992 06:08:58 CDT
From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: College choice
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> 	The schools on the list differ so tremendously -- urban/pastoral,
> 	public/private, secular/religious, etc. -- that it's hard to come up
> 	with much of a judgment.

Good point.  Some of the decision would obviously depend upon individual
druthers re large/small, urban/pastoral, close-to-home/far-away, etc.
As for which school offers the best road to success, I'm convinced that
in this country, unlike Japan for example, it doesn't really matter that
much.  Place of degree is important in getting the first job, but after
that success depends on post-degree productivity.  Even for the first job,
place of degree seems to be getting less important, at least for college
teaching jobs.  Back in the old days, applicants for assistant professorships
tended to have brand-new PhD's and no publications.  Now a large number
have a pretty good bibliography at that stage.  That's what search committees
look more closely at.  A PhD from an ivy league school gets tossed out if
there are no publications, while the job offer goes to the person whose
degree is from a no-name school but who has good publications and varied
teaching experience.  I'm not making a judgment about whether this is good
or bad, btw.  I'm just pointing it out.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
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> >ndh (who wishes she had a good new mystery to read instead of persuasive
> >writing papers)
>
> Lately, I've been reading a lot of mysteries written by women, with
> female protagonists.  One of those phases, I guess.
>
It dawned on me a couple of years ago that almost all of the mysteries I
have really enjoyed over the years have been written by women. I've
been an avid reader of mysteries since I read my first one, _The Mystery
of the Five Bright Keys_, in second grade (the Junior Literary Guild could
come up with some real winners).  I did the obligatory (at that time,
anyway) Nancy Drew, Judy Bolton, Hardy Boys, and Dana Girls tour,
discovered Christie in 7th grade, but didn't find my *real* favorite,
Sayers, until senior year in college.
ndh
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Date:         Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:45:28 EDT
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Posted on 14 Sep 1992 at 22:38:27 by tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
>think this place is not for me you know only guys with the smallest dicks
>in the world should come here see what I mean?

And we know that Tushar's lingam is way maha.

Karen
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From:         Bandwidth Pig <aharwell@PANAM1.PANAM.EDU>
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>James
>your resident conservative

Ex-squeeze me? Someone clue this newbie. I'm willing to give him another chance
on account of his being a fellow Texan ;-) I mean, have we already forgotten
Bill Sjostrom? Steve Karlson? Even....BWP?

-abh
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: Thanatopsis
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 23:23:11 GMT

Review of thread: 

Natalie had written that she no longer reads much of anything pre-1985.  I
remembered her quoting yeats back when she got her zeos/zeus, so I nitpicked:

>> Oh, and Natalie, wasn't that Leda poem pre-1985?

Natalie, having better things to think about in the interim, mused:

>Yeah, but I can't remember now what I said about it.  Probably I said that
>it's impossible to read Yeats now -- that swans and gods don't mean the
>same thing in 1992.
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
A poem should not mean, but be. [I'm plagiarizing again: keats, I think.
probably a <good thing> I'm *not* an English prof]

--bayla
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Date:         Sun, 6 Sep 1992 19:09:44 CDT
From:         tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
Subject: Re: Anglicizing

>>>                           In her day it was considered correct
>>>to give English pronunciations to foreign words in English.
>>
>> I have always wondered why it is wrong to do that now. What is the
>
>Who said it was wrong?
>   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)

Natalie, your strange concept of wrong and right has been commented
on before! To repeat, methodology of Linguistics has nothing to do
with what is right and wrong. We are SUBJECTS trying to see what sounds
sensible to us. Take off your researcher's glasses at once before saying
anything on this subject. You CANNOT, by your own admission of being
completely non-prescriptive!

Stop this deliberate confusing of the roles of subject and researcher
now! It only confuses us.

tushar
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Subject:      Cartography

>I agree with Jenna; after all, you have to get the food before you can
>trade it for sex.
>
>>jcs
>
>Evelyn

There you go, Evelyn, putting the parrot before the dessert cart.
Moreover, a rolling field mouse gathers no rosebuds while ye may.

-Mka
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From:         Nancy Harwood <harwood@TENET.EDU>
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>
> Due to circumstances, I am forced to unsub from this list.  I just want
> to say goodbye to all my friends.
>
> Evelyn

Oh, Evelyn, I'm so sorry...I will miss you!
ndh
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Date:         Mon, 14 Sep 1992 21:55:00 EDT
From:         Gilbert Smith <N567126@NCSUADM.ACS.NCSU.EDU>
Subject:      Implant joke
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Almost an implant joke:
Guy has lost his testicles to the knife and gets the doctor
to give him implants but the doctor is fresh out of artificial
balls, so he uses onions instead.  Guy comes back later with
three complaints:
  1) Every time he takes a leak his eyes water.
  2) Every time he girlfriend gives him a .... uh... *you*
     *know*....  she craves liver.
  3) Every time he passes a hamburger stand, he gets a
     h*rd *n.
--ggs (remember, *he* made me do this....)
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Date:         Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:51:02 EDT
From:         mgarber@DHVX20.CSUDH.EDU
Subject: re: family
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To S who thnks drawing a family tree takes all the fun out of it.
Having a map isn't the end of conversation, its the beginning
of a whole series of new conversations..the basis for asking
questions, and gettting a fascinating range of answers,
including various speculations on why A doesn't speak
to B etc.

As to my claim to be related to someone on the list...
My mother has gone off to study lamaism in Tibet in
a nunnery there.
Marilyn
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Date:         Mon, 7 Sep 1992 07:55:22 -0500
From:         Anne Burton Harwell <harwell@TENET.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Gleanings (58)
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On Mon, 7 Sep 1992, Akio Tanaka wrote:

> [I]  Again about Jodie Foster (aka Anne Harwell). . .
...
>      "The quality about these women is like a man's.  Their mind is just
> like a man's, but they are very feminine.  That contrast interests me,"
> said Rolston...

Oh, thuper. Bernard Shaw's Higgins was similarly interested. What can I
say..It's just part of the Bandwidth Mystique.

So are you saying, Akio, that you like me because I remind you of a man? ;-)

Something else I've noticed, Akio: you don't seem to participate much any
more except for these weekly gleanings installments. What's new in your
life?


> 17) C001 (re Lavender) (*Anne Hr.*)
> 18) EleEt Atlantic Seaboard States (*Anne Hr.*)

C00l and EleEt are the words "cool" and "elite" spelled in the currently
preferred style of the 17-year-old self-styled hacker. I was using those
spellings to some now-forgotten humorous effect.

> 22) DNR problem (*Anne Hr.*)

A DNR is a Domain Name Resolver, a ware that turns a FQDN into an IP address.

> 26) NIMBY (Agnes)

Not In My Back Yard, a reference to property-owners and community types
across the country beconing politically aware and beginning to oppose when
someone tries to, say, build a low-level radioactive disposal dump on the
edge of their town.

> 35) "Eeeeennnt!!!" (*Anne Hr.*)

Sound of a buzzer going off on a game show. Eeeeennnt! thank you for playing.

> 41) Tempi cambi (*Anne Hr.*)

Butchered(?) Italian: Times change

So, Tanaka-san, let's see more of you on the list, OK?

-abh
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From:         "Natalie Maynor" <maynor@RA.MSSTATE.EDU>
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> I was hoping that *wasn't* what you were saying.  I respectfully
> disagree with VIOLENCE.  But I'll have to leave it for later--so
> . . .

I also disagree with violence.
   --Natalie (maynor@ra.msstate.edu)
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From:         Graham Toal <gtoal@CURSCI.CO.UK>
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On Tue, 15 Sep 1992 06:33:36 -0400, "Agnes Kruchio" <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
 wrote:
> >        5:-)      for "I'm Elvis"
> Dunno - but as a guess: the outline of "5" indicates gyrations maybe?

Perhaps his hairstyle?
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> >--ggs (lamenting having to agree with -Mka about *anything*...)
>
> Do I detect the penumbra of giggling acceptance?  I am
> *tickled*.  [Excuse me--*tickled.*]
> And I guess it was Twain, Giggles, who said he never let his
> schooling get in the way of his education.
> hee hee hee
> -Mka

*Tickle* is what I do best... didn't you know?  Gootchie Goo...
(Just ask <ts>, he knows....)
--ggs (regretting having said it......)
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Posted on 7 Sep 1992 at 16:32:02 by tushar@MATH.UCHICAGO.EDU
>I was talking about the difference between, say, the s in vision and
>the dg in widgeon. Since I don't know the technical terms, I called
>the dg a consonant and the s a fricative. They do sound different. I

Affricate.  /stop + fricative/ combination.  Vision has a voiced esh:
[zh] instead of [sh] (like dr. zhivago).  Widgeon has a voiced [tch]
combination.  Like itch, except voiced.

>      roof-> __________
>                       \  <---- teeth
>                    --> \
>   ________________|
>  |
>This is where the tip of the tongue goes.(It touches little above the
>bottom edge of the teeth.) And believe me, I can aspirate/not aspirate at
>will. They are different sounds in my language.

Well, this sounds exactly like what I said I do--touch touches in the
bottom 1/4 of the teeth.

>any "t" to the right by a dental t ( by which, I mean the above). Same goes

English th is categorized as interdental.  Can you do this?

Wait.  You said you had no fricatives!  What is sh in tushar, then????

A Confused Angel