HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Subject: Re: Best BBS system
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:02:49 GMT

rcmolden@parmesan.cs.wisc.edu (Robertc. Moldenhauer) writes:
>In article <9210008.17.719006874@sunvax.sun.ac.za> 9210008@sunvax.sun.ac.za (Conrad Christensen) writes:
>>What would the best BBS system be to start a BBS with : RA or QBBS ...

>Well, I would strongly recommend TBBS over either, I set up an RA system, spent

Oh no... BBS wars.   Commencing countdown to Snyder...  Ten, nine,
eight, seven...
-- 
If you want to put yourself on the map, publish your own map.
Xref: sparky alt.bbs:6435 comp.bbs.misc:1117 alt.bbs.allsysop:730
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs.allsysop
Subject: Re: Recommendations for Software for Commerical BBS
Summary: Waffle should be registered if you use it.
Keywords: want,bbs
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 18:08:22 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

chris@iowegia.uucp (Chris Lyons) writes:

> glm@Unify.Com (Gary L. Manning) writes:
> 
> > I am in the process of putting together a new BBS for the company.  I
> > need to have the ability to post and view local messages, e-mail, and
> > netnews articles and be able to upload and download files (text and
> > binary).  I will be running this on a 386 Unix box probably running SCO
> > Unix 3.2.2.
> >
> 
> YES YES YES!!!! Use Waffle!! It runs on  both UNIX and DOS.  You need to
> register it I believe to use muli-node, but waffle isn't too bad.

Waffle should be registered if you intend to keep using it.

Check out comp.bbs.waffle for waffle discussions.
There is also a FAQ produced monthly for this package.

DOS binaries are readily available via the net, and can be used to
evaluate the UNIX version, however UNIX versions must be obtained from
the author.



dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)
From: edguer@ces.cwru.edu (Aydin Edguer)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Info on FreePort from Case Western
Date: 9 Oct 1992 13:52:36 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science, Case Western Reserve University
NNTP-Posting-Host: sentinel.ces.cwru.edu

In article <b-grant-071092161656@amac183.acns.nwu.edu> b-grant@nwu.edu (Barry Grant) writes:
>I would be grateful for any information on FreePort bbs software created at
>Case Western Reserve University. I especially would like to know how to get
>a copy of it. Thanks in advance.

This information is provided on the Cleveland Free-Net.
The document "Obtaining the Free-Net Software" is located in the Administration
Building [go admin].

As the online information states:

The program that drives the Cleveland Free-Net was written by the
Information Netork Services staff at Case Western Reserve University,
along lines suggested by T.M. Grundner, Ed.D also of CWRU.

It is written in "C" and currently operates via a "nest" of computers of
various makes and models, running the Berkeley version of the Unix operating
system.  Versions of the software which will operate on other variations
of Unix and on smaller machines are now being prepared.

Those who might be interested in this software offer or would like more
information should write or call:

  FreePort Licensing
  Information Network Services
  Crawford Hall
  Case Western Reserve University
  Cleveland, Ohio  44106-7072
  
  (216) 368-2982
  email: freeport-info@po.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: grant@bluemoon.rn.com (Grant DeLorean)
Subject: Re: New Pittsburgh BBS
Organization: Blue Moon
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 03:36:25 GMT

larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:

>bx791@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alan Michael Gindlesperger) writes:

>>ONLY 105MEGS!!! that's pretty much for a private BBS.

>I don't know - - we have a privately owned bbs here and
>we have 2500 megs..

 I have a little over 2 gigs on mine. Maybe he meant that 105 megs is
a little small unless is it is a small private system with private not
denoting private ownership but private membership...
-- 
\   Grant DeLorean  - IHMSA & NRA Life Member -  (grant@bluemoon.use.com)   /

   Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.  -- Euripides

Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey)
Subject: Re: Stealing software (was: Re: Big Brother BBS policies)
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:47:19 GMT

In article <1992Oct10.181917.3296@panix.com> fnord@panix.com (Cliff Heller) writes:
>In <702@alchemy.UUCP> tim@alchemy.UUCP (Timothy M. Hood) writes:
>
>>Your understanding of the relationship between wrong and illegal is flawed.  
>>There are things which may be wrong which may not be illegal, but anything 
>>illegal is wrong.  Illegal is a subset of wrong, not an intersection.  Like:
>
>Whoa.  I have no objection to the points you have raised regarding software
>theft.  For the most part, they are well presented and appropriate.
>
>But "anything illegal is wrong" ???????

To quote G. Gorgon Liddy, and man with an interesting viewpoint
on right and wrong to be sure...

There is "malum en se" and "malum prohibitum" (pardon the spelling,
greek is not my second language).  Roughly, evil in and of itself,
and evil because it is prohibited.  The examples that he gives are
sexual molestation of a child - something which is obviously (to most
people) wrong and you don't need a law to tell you that it is wrong,
and running a stop sign - something that is wrong because it is 
prohibited, but in itself is a moral and ethical null.

In the first case, it is wrong, and it is illegal.  Making it legal
would not nullify the fact that it is wrong.

In the second case, it is wrong only because it is illegal. making it
legal would nullify any sense of "wrongness" in the act.

Example:  there are cases where running the stop sign is the 
right thing to do; emergency vehicles to it all the time, and 
in the case of an emergency (fast approaching birth of a child,
urgent need for medical care, etc.) you too can do it without 
fear of legal harm.  There is no case where the sexual molestation
of a child is considered to be permissible "for the greater good".

In any case, this is one way to consider the cases where "right and
wrong" in the legal vs. the ethical sense clash.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Wednesday, 7 Oct 1992 23:16:28 CDT
From: <U44149@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: "Modem initialization problem."

 I'm posting this for a friend of mine who no longer has net access. He
would like to know how to configure his "16.8 USR DS modem" for "Remote
Access Ver. 1.11". He is currently running a "X00" as his fossil driver.
 And, he would like some input concerning the modem string initialization as
well as the modem settings. Hopefully, he will have his BBS up and running in
no time. Since, it did work before with his old 2400 baud modem. Thanks in
advance.


                                                        Michael
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Best BBS system
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:12:40 GMT

jerodh@Condor.mcs.kent.edu (Jerod Husvar) writes:

>I would also have to agree, TBBS is well worth the price and allows you nearly
>unlimited expandability.  We run a 10 line BBS on a single CPU, and could,

TBBS Is very limited indeed.  

TDBS Is the only tool to generate doors -- which makes it very
limited.

64 message areas is very low

and 65000  messages on-line make it quite restrictive

-- 
Larry Snyder                                    internet: larry@gator.rn.com
keeper of the Gator                                  uucp: uunet!gator!larry
From: adamg@world.std.com (Adam M Gaffin)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Best BBS system
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:16:27 GMT
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA

In article <Bw5tyE.KpL@gator.rn.com> larry@gator.rn.com (Larry Snyder) writes:
>
>It's not a lie.  Topic areas are not message areas.  Topic areas
>do not support gated conferences.  It is not a lie -- TBBS supports
>64 message areas.
>

Sorry, but you simply don't know what you're talking about.  Add TMail and
a mailer and you can use topic conferences for gated conferences (assuming
that by "gated" you mean things such as Fidonet and Usenet).  TBBS
supports more messages areas than most people probably have memory for. 

Get a Clue!
-- 
Adam Gaffin
Middlesex News, Framingham, Mass.
adamg@world.std.com
Voice: (508) 626-3968. Fred the Middlesex News Computer: (508) 872-8461.
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: tjg2946@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Best BBS system
Reply-To: tjg2946@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:55:43 GMT

That is not necessary true.
	UltraBBS is pretty tough and very picky at that.  I have a 
n experienced sysop who tried out UltraBBS.  It is simia
similar to PC Board but is pretty picky.  I suggest you try either
WWIV or Wildcat or even the brand new SBBS which is pretty cool.

Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: jerodh@Condor.mcs.kent.edu (Jerod Husvar)
Subject: Re: 216 Internet ?
Organization: Kent State University
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 01:47:49 GMT

In article <XT1FsB3w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> damir@infopls.chi.il.us (Damir Matanic) writes:
>Does anyone know of any BBSs in the 216 Cleveland area that offers 
>Internet mail and Usenet?  I don't need full Internet access.
>Thanks ahead of time.
>
>--
>damir@infopls.chi.il.us (Damir Matanic)
>Infoplus BBS, +1 708 537 0247, v32bis. Home of Infoplus.

Cleveland FreeNET, (216)368-3888.
-- 
 / Jerod J. Husvar       \ / Internet Relay Chat Admin, (On IRC as Jerod)    \ 
:> jerodh@mcs.kent.edu   <:> Self-Proclaimed Computer Addict                 <:
:> Kent State University <:> P.O. Box 35, Rootstown, OH, USA (216) 325-2849  <:
 \ Kent, Ohio  USA       / \ I do consulting.      #include <std.disclaimer> /
From: tim@alchemy.UUCP (Timothy M. Hood)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 8 Oct 92 23:01:22 GMT
Reply-To: tim@alchemy.UUCP (Timothy M. Hood)
Organization: Alchemy Software Designs

In article <1992Sep22.025243.3639@wvnvms.wvnet.edu> florian@wvnvms.wvnet.edu writes:

>   Basically, I'm sick of software companies whining about how they get 
>   ripped off when they are pumping out crap software for ridculous prices.
>   People pay for quality folks.  You want to sell your software and cut
>   down on Piracy?  Write better software at better prices, and stop 
>   whining about vaporis sales that you "lost"...

I like this rationality.  You're saying that pirates only rip off the crappy 
programs because they're not worth buying.  The good ones you pay for, right?
Somehow, I don't think so.  In our market system, inferior products are weeded 
out by the marketplace's decision to buy or not to buy.  Not by deciding on 
buying or stealing.

Timothy M. Hood
--
                                 tim@alchemy.UUCP
                        ...!ucrmath!alchemy!alchemy!tim
"Badges?  We aint got no badges.  We DON'T NEED NO STEENKING BADGES!"
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 9 Oct 1992 14:38:35 CDT
From: <U44149@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: "Modem initialization problem."

In article <92281.231628U44149@uicvm.uic.edu>, <U44149@uicvm.uic.edu> says:
>
> I'm posting this for a friend of mine who no longer has net access. He
>would like to know how to configure his "16.8 USR DS modem" for "Remote
>Access Ver. 1.11". He is currently running a "X00" as his fossil driver.
> And, he would like some input concerning the modem string initialization as
>well as the modem settings. Hopefully, he will have his BBS up and running in
>no time. Since, it did work before with his old 2400 baud modem. Thanks in
>advance.
>
>
>                                                        Michael

 Since, I haven't receive any reply so far concerning this post. Here is
 the fossil setup within his comport, which is set for 3.

DEVICE=c:\util\qemm\loadhi.sys /r:2 C:X00.SYS 3 dv b,2,38400 t=2048 r=2048
DEVICE=C:\UTIL\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:1 C:\DOS\ANSI.SYS

  My question is. Is this the correct setup for the fossil driver for my
 friend system. Since, he still want to retain Com1 for mouse and Com2 for
 internal modem. This left Com3 taking the external USR DS 16.8 modem.
  If you can help in this matter in getting the correct setup for the
 fossil driver as well as initialization string. My friend and I will
 greatly appreciate it. Since, this is goig to be use with "Remote Access".
  Thanks in advance.
                                                        Michael

Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: tjg2946@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Subject: Re: Using ProComm for a BBS?
Reply-To: tjg2946@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:57:57 GMT

Well... you should get a full fledged BBS like WWIV which runs great on
an 8088 since it don't need multitasking.  Check around for a copy (it
is shareware, 4.21 is probably the lastest version for MS Dos).

Xref: sparky alt.bbs:6527 comp.bbs.misc:1135
From: jerryg@ssd.intel.com (Jerry Gaiser)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Re: Full Screen Editor for Maximus/2 v2.00
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:36:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: SSD.1992Oct16.213638.18230
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division (SSD), Intel

In article <1992Oct16.185515.6534@sth.frontec.se> bjst@sth.frontec.se (Bjorn Stenberg) writes:
>Hi folks.
>
>I've just installed Maximus/2 and on my system and got it up running for a
>week now. I like the system in general, but there's one *BIG* annoyance:
>
>The FSED...
>
>To be nice, I'll say I don't like it. Neither do my users. 
>Before I switched to OS/2 and Maximus/2, I used QuickEd and I still think it's
>one of the best FSEDs around. Quick and easy.
>
>Now I'm wondering what full screen editors there are out there which will work
>properly together with Maximus/2 on my multiline OS/2 system.
>
>Any ideas?

I'd personally recommend GoldED. It's built-in full screen editor isn't
too bad or you can do like I do and set it up for an external editor
and use a real editor like VI .... ;-)
-- 
Jerry Gaiser                         NO on 9
         Usenet: jerryg@ssd.intel.com
        Fidonet: 1:105/380
           PBBS: n7pwf@n7pwf.or.usa.na
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: jdecarlo@mitre.org (John DeCarlo)
Subject: Re: HELP!!! HELP!!! Anyone with SupraFax v32bis HELP ME!
Organization: MITRE Corporation, McLean  VA
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:46:35 GMT

In article <BvqFMI.GLs@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
 bjpocock@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Beastor the Mad) writes:

>I just bought a v.32bis modem.  I've connected to other BBS's via telix
>just fine at 19200 bps.  However, no one can call my BBS and log on.
>I run RA 1.11 pro... with a BNU.SYS /L:1=19200 fossil driver loaded. IN
>Modem options I have autoanswer on, locked baud, 19200 max speed.  I use
>the following INIT1 STRING: AT &F2 %G0 M0|.
>
>The BBS loads fine, when someone connects I get connected at 19200 (doesn't
>matter what baud rate the user is using) and it doesn't kick in.  The user
>gets nothing at all on his screen.

You need to add the W2 (I think) parameter to your initialization.  By 
default, the Supra reports DTE speed (Data Terminal Equipment, modem-to-
computer) with the CONNECT message and you want the DCE (Data Communications 
Equipment, modem-to-modem) speed reported instead for your BBS.

John DeCarlo, MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA--My views are my own
Fidonet:  1:109/131  Internet:  jdecarlo@mitre.org
From: rcmolden@parmesan.cs.wisc.edu (Robertc. Moldenhauer)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: OPUS BBS SOFTWARE -FIND?
Date: 16 Oct 92 22:27:09 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

In article <743.14.uupcb@ncoast.ORG> flbbs!gary.flinn@ncoast.ORG (Gary Flinn)  writes:
>Could some one tell where I can find the Opus BBS software?  A friend of
>mine is looking for it and cant' find it anywhere.  Any help or
>information on where he or I can get the Opus software would be
>apprecitated.  Thanks!
>                                


Try wuarchive.wustl.edu they used to have it.
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Sketch of the Damned
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:37:03 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

>: >>>>>>Damn, another dead article.
>: >>>>>It's feeling ... much ... better...
>: >>>>No it isn't. It'll be stone dead in a minute.
>: >>>No, No. It's just worn out after a long squauk!
>: >>No. It's stunned!
>: >No. I'ts resting!
>: No. It's pining for the fjords!
>It's not pining, its' bleedin' demised.

>: >>	Ratboy the aka-less
>: >Jas Me the aka-ful
>: Ratboy the aka-ed
>David aka are we going to recite the whole sketch?
James the Oh, NO we`er NOT !!!!
From: djohnson@hecate.gac.edu (Daniel P Johnson)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Vote
Date: 17 Oct 92 02:26:47 GMT
Organization: People Named Chuck Anonymous
In-reply-to: jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu's message of Thu, 15 Oct 1992 16:26:04 GMTLines: 34

In article <Bw68BH.AH5@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> jester@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Jester) writes:
.I know you all want to win the election, but the only way you
.can hope to win is to mail me your vote by Novemberr 3rd
.so get off your pinny ass and mail me your top 3 choices
.fpr a.f.m-p president....

I vote for:

1- Me
2- You
3- Him

.and a vote for me would not hurt either....

look, 1st vote.  jinkies.

.anyways.....only 9 people have voted.....just get your 10 best freinds
.to e-mail me and walla......you can win.....

What do I win?  Huh huh?? What do I win, Jessypooh?

.Jester aka now wasn't that easy?????
.-- 
.I am the cancelled checque that comes in the mail.
.I am the zit on the night of crime's really big date.
.I am the line noise that screws up your download...
.I am the ghost of a chance that you don't have.

Dan aka yeah, and I didn't even have to cut my knee off!
--
I am the yogurt that dries up on the underside of the foil cover.
I am the slime mold that evolves into a sentient being and runs for office.
I am the twelfth one on the left, next to the potted plant.
I am the tangiest flavour of ice cream you can find without killing someone.
From: jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Terry Jones appears on The Young Indianan Jones cronicles.refresh
Date: 13 Oct 92 19:36:40 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

v151luy2@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott D McGinnis) writes:


>	ATTENTION!!!

>	Am i the only one who recognized Mr. Jones on the Young
>Indy Jones. He plays a Spanish WWI spy in Barcelona. The show
>looks at this point to be very sarcastic, and not serious at all.

>						Snap.

I wonder if they were expecting the Spanish Inquisition?
From: lawrence@ctron.com (Gary St. Lawrence)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Blow on the 'ead.
Date: 13 Oct 92 20:41:27 GMT
Reply-To: lawrence@olympus.ctron.com (Gary St. Lawrence)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.

Ear! What's all this then, amen?
We'll have none of that `round here, my good man. Now off you go!

<Off I went on a perfectly ordinary sort of day.... >

You should be so worried about him, doctor. He's suffering from what
we doctors call Whooping Cough.

It's people like you what cause unrest!


					Sir Harold SmithSmytheSmith
					(under the rotters)
					Caught in a whirli-mat
					Upper Gonads,
					The Sphincter, Sw4
:wq
From: goffgb@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Henri Bergson?!
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:43:17 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <1992Oct9.182256.21984@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jwlr@okeeffe.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer) writes:
> jsarna@vax.clarku.edu makes several attempts to jump the Channel (without being bound at all):
>>In a previous article, goffgb@wkuvx1.bitnet leaps tall buildings in a single
>>bound (depending, of course, on where she's bound):
> 
>>Gibbon's _Decline & Fall of the Roman Empire_ DELETED
> 
>>>>>> Pardon me, but it's my God-given right to bash rats if I want to!  
>>>>>> BTW, according to my records, your policy states that no claim you ever
>>>>>> make will be paid.
>>>>>> 				piece,
>>>>>> 				Fievel
>>>>> 
>>>>>Excuse me, Fievel, but I want to be the one to bash rats. I hear they
>>>>>are actually very good in the late night hours...
>>>>> 
>>>>>So you found out that my claims might not be paid...That doesn't mean
>>>>>I won't get paid, now does it.
>>>>> 
>>>>>Piece?!??  What, are you lonely? 
>>>>>	What've you got to say NOW????>>>>>>>>>>>Gina 
>>>> 
>>>> Will you marry me?
>>>> 		-Fievel
>>> 
>>>Mawiage. We have come together to join these two in wholy matwimoney. 
>>>Sure, I'll marry you IF:
>>>	1. You'll pay all my cliams that I might not pay. 
>>>	2. I won't have to pay you for anything (though the rewards
>>>	   for your sevices rendered will be abundant and pleasing).
>>>	3. Rat-bashing and cat-crashing become Olympic Sports.
>>>	4. You're as good everywhere else as you are on the computer.
>>>		(And I do mean ***everywhere***  *wink, wink*)
> 
>>I'm sorry, my dear, but my religion forbids me from giving money to cliams.
>>			-Fievel
> Could I just add that *my* religion allows me to give money to claims,
> but forbids me from giving money to clams?
> 
> Mesaj <=== I didn't think so.
Well, *your* religion must be the same as mine. And since I'm not clam
(last time I heard, I was a wench)...what are you doing tonight?
From: lawrence@ctron.com (Gary St. Lawrence)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: VOTE FOR
Date: 8 Oct 92 13:40:08 GMT
Reply-To: lawrence@olympus.ctron.com (Gary St. Lawrence)
Organization: Cabletron Systems INc.


 In what will be (you can be certain this is absolutely, positively,
most assuredly, without question, unavoidably and even probably) NOT
my last campaign pitch:

VOTE FOR


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I've got 90,000 pounds in my pajamas. I've got 40,000 French francs in
my fridge. I've got lots of lovely Lira and the Deutschemarks getting
dearer, and my dollar bills could by the Brooklyn Bridge.

... just think of how my Albatross I could by for each and every person
who votes for me! (Of course you don't get fucking wafers with it, it's
bloody Albatross, innit!?!)


					not the other person,
					getting over the ganglies,
					I want to talk about bailes!
					aaah, you know who!

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