From: hem@col400.att.com (Hillel E. Markowitz)
Subject: Re: JforJ ad in Newsweek
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 19:15:43 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.030517.28193@Princeton.EDU> jacobw@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Jacob Solomon Weinstein) writes:
>bc744@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Ira Kaufman) writes:
>>
>>   I have spoken to many of my Christian friends about this 'Jews
>>for Jesus' crap.  Many of them are completely puzzled by the fad.
>>They wonder why these folks can't deal with being Christians.  As
>>Christians, they wondered if these folks are somehow ashamed of a
>>label like Christians.  A few of them were outright offended at a
>>person who believes in Jesus as the Messiah, but is ashamed to be
>>called 'Christian.'
>Could somebody summarize the philosophy of Jews for Jesus? I've always
>wondered about them, but I've never really felt like stopping to chat
>with the folks who hand out their literature on streetcorners.
>


Rob Levene posted this a while ago.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.jewish
From: levene@aplpy.jhuapl.edu (Robert A. Levene)
Subject: Re: Messianic Judiasm
Date: Wed, 9 Dec 92 20:42:41 GMT


They don't 'become' non-Jews, they practice non-Jewish religion,
specifically Christianity.  The reposts below make this abundantly
clear.

At any time, a Jew may return to the practice of Judaism.


Rob

-------- Reposting -------

Here are some self-descriptions of two Hebrew-Christian
missionary organizations, "Jews for Jesus" and the "Union
of Messianic Jewish Congregations."

The first report was obtained by Jews for Judaism, and was 
reprinted in one of their counter-missionary brochures.
The second report was a public post to Usenet.  (Partial header
reproduced.  Full header available upon request.)

Their words speak for themselves.


---------- From "Jews for Jesus"  -----------------------------------
|
| What evangelical Christians should know about
|                           JEWS FOR JESUS;       [the "O" in FOR is
|  A C0NFIDENTIAL REPORT:                           a six-pointed star -RL]
|    _not_ to be distributed to Non-Christians
|
| \    / HAT WE BELIEVE...
|  \/\/
|
|     While others are content to call themselves "inter-
| denominational" or "interfaith," we define ourselves
| as evangelical fundamentalists and we seek the coop-
| eration of individuals and Christian bodies  which
| can be so described by their work.  Though we will not
| allow ourselves to be committed to any one segment of the
| church, we believe in affiliation with a local church and
| in accountability to the church for service and discipline.
|
|     We feel that we are an arm of the local church.  The
| calling of those who minister with Jews for Jesus is
| primarily that of evangelists, and we're always mindful of
| the fact that we should not usurp the authority of the local
| pastor.  As we effectively win and disciple Jewish people,
| we feel that they should either take their place in a local
| church of evangelical character, or establish a congrega-
| tion and call their own minister.  We feel it is our duty to
| aid the church at large, and we consider ourselves as a
| church, we believe in affiliation with a local church and
| in accountability to the church for service and discipline.
| tion and call their own minister.  We feel it is our duty to
| aid the church at large, and we consider ourselves as a
| working arm of the body to gather in the Lost Sheep of the
| House of Israel.
|
|-------------------------------------------------------------


|------------- From the "UMJC" ------------------------------- 
|
| From: Harvey.Smith ... (Harvey Smith)
| Subject: Doctrinal statement of the UMJC and
|          the Messianic Jewish Computer Net.
| Message-ID: <139891.2A95C447@paranet.FIDONET.ORG>
| Date: 21 Aug 92 17:01:06 GMT
| 
| As Messianic Jewish believers we believe:
| 
| 1. That we are a part of the universal body of Messiah comprised of both
|    Jews and Gentiles and consider Biblical Christianity to be Biblical
|    Judaism.
| 
| 2. We believe Yeshua Hamashiach, the Jewish way to say Jesus Christ, is the
|    Promised Messiah, was born of the Virgin Miriam(Mary), lived in Israel
|    ministered to the Jewish People, chose 12 Jewish Apostles, fulfilled
|    the prophecies of the Tanach,(Old Testament), taught the precepts of
|    God, died for our sins on the cursed tree (cross), shed his blood for
|    everlasting atonement, and rose from the dead the third day, to be both
|    Lord and Messiah.  We believe in Him was the fulness of God in a body.
|    (His diety). We express this Unity as a Tri-Unity. One God expressed
|    in three personages. We believe He is coming again soon to rule over
|    the nations of the world for 1,000 years after which, there will be
|    a new heaven and a new earth, with its capitol city being Jerusalem,
|    whose foundations will have the names of the twelve Jewish Apostles
|    of Yeshua, and the gates having the names of the 12 tribes of Israel!
| 
| 3. We believe that we are to help bring Messiah back by sharing the good
|    News with the Jewish People reconciling them back to their God and
|    Messiah.
| 
| 4. our eschatology is as fortold in Matt. 24, Revelation etc..
|    Most are Pre-Millenial without dispensationalism.(overlaping
|    dispensations).
| 
| 5. We relate to many different denominations and fellowships, some MJ
|    congregations are Baptist, some Pentecostal, some Charismatic, some
|    Lutheran etc..  Being an Evangelical is the covering that we best
|    relate to.
|
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