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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: Hey Cliff...
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:07:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.194541.17241@tamsun.tamu.edu> garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>
>
>Hey Cliff, what is the name of that dumb Miami bird mascot?
>
>
>- goober (can i be a fool too) smith

Hey goob, I don't know, I just root for whoever is playing the Fighting
Frenchmen.

- cliff (you can be a fool if i can be a goober) slaughterbeck
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: garys@cs.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith)
Subject: Re: Outback Gator Bowl?
Organization: Computer Science Department, Texas A&M University
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:04:25 GMT

In article <168327BD8.SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com> SCHMIDT@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jon Schmidt) writes:
>Today's edition of USA Today (7/28) reports that the Gator Bowl
>Association will announce today a four-year contract naming Outback
>Steakhouse as the title sponsor of the annual Gator Bowl.

A steakhouse, huh. I bet that's one bowl that UTexas won't want to ever attend.

- goober (here bevo, here bevo) smith
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From: jvbutera@grad00.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera)
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Organization: NCSU Mathematics Dept.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 06:08:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.230513.3718@rice.edu> rbutera@owlnet.rice.edu (Robert John Butera) writes:
>
>Interestingly, I just remembered that alcohol is consumed in the
>private boxes and President's box at Bobby Dodd Statium at Grant Field
>(I wish they'd shorten that ... BDS@GF).  I guess the boxes don't
>count as public places ...
>
>At least it was in 1990 ...
>

I don't suppose that's too unusual.  Almost all the boxes at Clemson Games
have a wet bar in them and I can tell you for sure they don't need ice buckets
and sinks for Cokes. :)

>
>
>-- 
>Rob Butera - ECE grad student   Rice University, Houston, TX   rbutera@rice.edu
>"The 'wall of separation of church and state' is a metaphor based on bad
> history, a metaphor which has proved useless as a guide to judging.  It should
> be frankly and explicity abandoned." - Chief Justice William Rehnquist


-- 
Jeff Butera <> Math Grad Student, N.C. State <> jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu

DISCLAIMER: My views are my own and I'll be a big N.C.State Wolfpack 
fan as soon as hell freezes over.  Until then... Go Clemson Tigers! 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jsosa@encore.com (Joe Sosa)
Subject: Re: Vols Chances for SEC
News-Software: NN 6.4.16
Reply-To: jsosa@encore.com (Joe Sosa)
Organization: Encore Computer Corp
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:02:26 GMT

In <1992Jul31.020648.3065@hubcap.clemson.edu> trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight) writes:

| jsosa@encore.com (Joe Sosa) writes:
| 
| ...
| >And considering the Gators have practically the entire offense returning 
| >(cept for the line), ain't no team that'll be able to stop the Gator 
| >offense.
| 
| "Practically the entire offense returning (cept for the line)"?????  Say,
| what good is a great QB if he's on his back all day?  Surely you must be
| new at this...
| 
Quite not, that is why they have Mr. Errict Rhett, ready for the draw play
that worked quite perfectly most of last season.  That way, Spurrier keeps
the opponent's line uneasy, having to look for the draw during the dropback.
And if Shane still gets sacked, then I'll surely credit the defense for good
pass coverage.

| >Repeat! Repeat!  Gators in 92!
| 
| Yeah...I felt pretty dumb turning off the set at halftime of the Sugar Bowl
| and then proclaiming the next day:  "At least Florida won..." before I saw
| the stupid paper.
| 
I figured what happened in the Sugar Bowl would happen anyway (I posted that
prediction!).  But that doesn't leave Florida out of the SEC Championship 
for this year.  The Gators have practically have a 6-game home stand after
it's first two games.  Could easily be 8-0 after those 8.

| Realistically, I pick Georgia and Mississippi State in the final.  
| Unrealistically:
|  
|                   go gamecocks                       |     |     |
|                                                      +-----------+
Welcome to the SEC!  Heh, heh, heh.

Joe

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From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Subject: Re: Michigan RB's Was: Re: Heisman Poll Update
Organization: University of Michigan
	<BrwHHo.KMz@ais.org> <JCHO.92Jul26164254@dante.nmsu.edu>
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:52:54 GMT

In article <JCHO.92Jul26164254@dante.nmsu.edu> jcho@nmsu.edu (CHO) writes:

   No offense to all the Michiganders (who are Wolverines) but, Elvis
   (IMHO) is not Heisman material... I say this because, though he is
   by far more consistent than..say Demetrius Brown (his predecessor),

Well thats a comfort.  Demetrius Brown.  The man almost made a career for
MSU's db Miller one year.  Never did a thing.  Taylor was *much* better, and
he pushed Brown out of the way and paved the road for Elvis.

   he lacks the mobility...  He's slow to get out of the pocket when he
   needs to...and in general his performance is dependent on the OL more

Wouldn't this show up in the sack or completion stats?  Completions were very
high, ints very low, and sacks were low too.  Sure, it would be nice to have
a 6'5" jet back there who is a great passer.  But I don't think Elvis is a
water buffalo by any means.

   than anything else... When he has to scramble, it stands a good chance
   that he will either be sacked or intercepted (or get really lucky).

I'll check tonight, but while the theory sounds plausible I don't think the
stats bear this out.  The OL should be very strong again with 3 starters back
and well stocked replacements, so if there is a weakness here it should be
well hidden again.  And thats all it takes to win the Heisman: play great in
college. 

   Powers and Wheatly have definitely the Heisman potential...but since 
   their talent is also in direct competition with other RBs like Ismail
   and Russell White, it will be tough... 

Powers came in because, once the OL got dinged up two years ago, super fast
Jon Vaughn couldn't keep moving after the first hit.  Ricky has great power
in his stride.  JJ and Tyrone came in last year because Ricky didn't show
enough speed to get to the holes.  I think that Tyrone will be starting once
the season is a few weeks old because he has that blazing speed *and* very
good (but maybe not great, e.g. fullback) strenght.  The competition will be
feirce, though, and probably none of them will come close to the HT because
of splitting time.

   on paper, but when you saw him play...that even great talent like Amp Lee,
   Edgar Bennett, Mario Bailey, and who knows how many QBs couldn't come 
   close...

Wait a minute.  We *all know* that Mario was even better than Desmond.  Just
look at the numbers or ask any washington fan (well, ok, maybe not *all* of
them feel that way).  Why, the Oilers have said that they were damn glad that
Desmond was there for the Redskins, since Washington certainly would have
taken mario if Howard was gone.

Bill


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From: tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini)
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Organization: University of Central Florida, Orlando
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 16:44:49 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.173757.8933@asd.com> scott@asd.com (Scott Barman) writes:

>Not necessarily.  Many states make it illegal to sell alcohol on state
>property.  Since many of the ACC schools are state schools I can
>understand where they do not allow the sale of alcohol in the stadiums.
>

Just out of curiosity, are you saying that there is no place on campus
where you can go to get, say, a pizza and a beer?

Tony (Just say 'Noles) Travaglini
tech@cs.ucf.edu
From: wakankar@egr.msu.edu (PUT YOUR NAME HERE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Auburn/Big-10 (was Big-10 Bowls)
Date: 23 Jul 92 15:17:55 GMT
Reply-To: wakankar@egr.msu.edu (PUT YOUR NAME HERE)
Organization: Michigan State University
Originator: wakankar@frith.egr.msu.edu

In article <1992Jul22.192130.19983@rtsg.mot.com> gatchall@rtsg.mot.com (Scott W. Gatchall) writes:
>Anyone remember the Zack Dumas hit on AU's FB?  The one on
>every single CFA highlight film.  The only thing from the game
>I care to remember.  Ouch .. the sting!

Yes! I watched that game on TV.The FB was Stacy Danley.But immediately he got upand got two big runs.

Parag
From: landers@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Hazard Class Mage)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Stadiums
Date: 29 Jul 92 20:38:30 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

As for concession sales, ND stadium rates a BIG FAT 0.

If you want a soda, it'll cost you most of the quarter!



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From: trev@hubcap.clemson.edu (Trevor Bauknight)
Subject: Re: South Carolina schedule, please
Organization: Jes Grew Carriers -- Metaphysical Bunko Squad 
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 05:30:39 GMT

hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:

>The original USC:

:-)

> Sept 5		GEORGIA
>Sept 12		ARKANSAS
>Sept 19		EAST CAROLINA
>Sept 26		@Kentucky
> Oct  3		@Alabama
> Oct 17		MISSISSIPPI ST
> Oct 24		@Vanderbilt
> Oct 31		TENNESSEE
> Nov  7		LOUISIANA TECH
> Nov 14		@Florida
> Nov 21		@Clemson

And this, my friends, is what we call "walking into a thrashing machine."
Great googley moogley.  So when they win them all, let's not haggle over
who had the toughest schedule...that is IT right up there.

> Dec  5		SEC Championship (vs. Arkansas) ;)

As an SEC expert might say:  "Laugh while you can, monkey boy!"  But if it
happens, I believe the Gamecocks will tire of hearing "Tiger Rag" over and
over, two weeks in a row.  Hold that tiger...
 
Trevor Bauknight         trev@hubcap.clemson.edu    ...gatech!hubcap!trev
 
                                                     +-----------+
                                                     | _> ###    |
                  go gamecocks                       |     |     |
                                                     +-----------+
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From: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Subject: Re: Vols Chances for SEC
Reply-To: mcconnel@b11.b11.ingr.com (Guy McConnell)
Organization: Intergraph Corp. Huntsville, AL
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:29:52 GMT

In article <15595@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> iftekhar@elm.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Iftekhar Hussain) writes:
>
>I think that Tennessee will win the SEC title this year. Their biggest
>nemesis Bama will be playing at Knoxville. This means they can beat
>Bama soundly. As far the rest of the schedule is concern it should be
>a piece of cake for Vols .
>
>-Ifty

    That's almost enough to make a man want to whip out his Oliver! 
Woof woof.

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From: pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming)
Subject: Re: I-AA followers in rsfc
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 19:17:21 GMT

Darryl Marsee writes:

>I think I-AA football is vastly underrated as an entertainment value.

Small-time football is great!  This is why I have such an interest in the MAC.
The levelness of the competative field is such that anybody can beat anybody.
You may not get to see the best atheletes in the country, but real competition
is most entertaining when one side does not hold a huge athletic advatage over
the other.  I think the likelyhood of finding that type of game is much higher
in the smaller programs like I-AA or Div. III.

     - Pat
.
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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: GameDay Festivities (was Re: Stadiums)
Date: 21 Jul 92 21:38:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Chevron

In article <92201.142916PMONGEAU@MIAMIU.BITNET> PMONGEAU@MIAMIU.BITNET writes:
>>
>>Serriously, I would like to see some descriptions of game day and varrious
>>sites about the country.  Perhaps visiting fans will then know what they might
>>expect and/or where to find the fun!
> 
>One place where they REALLY get into tailgaing and getting fired up for
>the game is Sun Devil Stadium at Arizona State (Tempe, Arizona).  You
>have to remember that most of the games are at night (7:30 or so start)
>so when the Winnebago's start rumbling in about 4:30 with their grills
>and coolers ready to go, these folks do some SERIOUS preparing for the
>game!  

In Baton Rouge, the Winnebago's start filling up the student parking
lots (much to the students' chagrin) as early as Thursday in preparation 
for the Saturday night game.  Its not just out-of-town LSU fans either; 
why I remember seeing UK fans (yes they have football boosters) driving
around town as early as Wednesday of that week.  Of course, they
might've just been trying to snatch a good parking spot; its hard to
park a duelly with a gooseneck behind it {:)}.  

GameDay tailgating starts about 11:00AM for local fans -- that is unless
its one of those Satanic TBS 11:40AM kickoff jobs.  Sure the days of the
"TBS SEC game of the week" were good for exposure, but there's something
not quite right about pre-game woofing and chanting with your buddy while 
he passes you the 2% Lowfat Borden's for your Cheerios.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: traynor@fnalc.fnal.gov
Subject: Re: Beat by Notre Dame (and not on the field)
Organization: Fermi National Accelerator Lab
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 05:31:17 GMT
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In article <1992Jul29.164307.1246@cs.ucf.edu>, tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes:
> In article <1992Jul29.135149.19042@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> pfleming@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick E Fleming) writes:
>>
>>BTW, why do John's pro-Miami posts always carry a Notre Dame berating?
>>
> 
> Well Pat it's the law. Yep, that's right. A Florida law. We don't want
> to berate ND, we have to. And we're not allowed to apologize or
> anything. 
> 
> And being a law abiding citizen of the state of Florida let me just
> add; ND sucks.
> 
> Tony (Just say 'Noles) Travaglini
> tech@cs.ucf.edu
> 
> 
> 
IF ND sucks, and it beat certain Florida teams over the past two years, what
quality does that make the Florida teams?????  Hmmmmm....

				-Mike Traynor

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From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Subject: Re: Wash-ND
Organization: American Software Development Corp., W. Babylon, NY
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 00:09:22 GMT

In article <2823@wrdis01.af.mil> demarsee@wrdis01.af.mil (Darryl Marsee) writes:
>}THE RAMBLIN' WRECK SONG
>}
>
>And, to be fair, here is the University of Georgia fight song
>(sung to the tune of The Battle Hymn Of The Republic):
>
 [ obnoxious drivel deleted ]

Ok Darryl... sing this to that balloney the North Avenue Trade School
calls a fight song:

I'm glad that I'm for Georgia, and not for Georgia Tech,
I'm proud to be a Bulldog and not a Ramblin' Wreck.
'Cause Georgia's so much better as everyone knows so well.
So I'll always be a Georgia fan and TECH CAN GO TO HELL!!

<Alternate Verse>
I'm glad that I'm for Georgia, and not for Georgia Tech,
I'm proud to be a Bulldog and not a Ramblin' Wreck.
And if I had a daughter, I'd teacher her what to do,
I'd dress her up in Red and Black and teach her how to...
	Glory, Glory to Ol' Georgia
	and TO HELL WITH GEORGIA TECH!

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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Rutgers Stadium (was Re: LIST: IA Football Stadiums (1 of 2))
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:12:20 GMT
Organization: Chevron

In article <Brr9Fo.5Du@acsu.buffalo.edu> v262xxve@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Timothy C Pitts) writes:
>
>Miami's attendance figures in 1990:
>
>Iowa     70,420
>FSU      80,396
>Kansas   54,211  <--
>Pitt     50,412  <--
>BC       50,942  <--
>Syracuse 66,196

Gee whiz.  Looks like a lot of fair-weather fans to me.  They obviously
don't have the same tenacity as their feathery mascot.  :/

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From: demarsee@wrdis01.af.mil (Darryl Marsee)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Yankee Conference
Date: 23 Jul 92 17:53:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: wrdis01.2838
Distribution: na
Organization: 1926CCSG Robins AFB

>Oh sure, give texas all the good team names. I suppose we could call
>ourselves the Sweatin' Yankees or something. That is pretty Florida.
>Whatever you want though Fighting Knights is wrong. That's for sure.

How about the UCF Flying Cockroaches?  They do grow up pretty big down
there, there's a lot of them, and many *do* fly.  Or, since Oregon has
Donlad Duck as it's mascot, Mickey deserves equal time, and what better
place for him to be mascot at than in Orlando?  So how about the UCF
Mousekateer's?

>When the name was changed in the early 70's(?) this got a lot of
>consideration. Until someone wrote down the acronym. They settled on
>UCF. Years later this became an acronym for U Can't Finish. Either way
>the poor bastard that has to ride around the field on his horse
>dressed in Knights armor has got to want to change names as much as
>I do. 

Yeah, he could wear Mickey ears and red suspenders instead.

>Tony (go Stinging Mosquitoes) Travaglini

Won't work either ... that name should belong to an Alaska team ... the
mosquitoes up there are so legendary they've made the mosquito their
state bird (not true, but oft suggested by people who've been there).
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From: dostalik@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Bill Dostalik)
Subject: Re: Beer sales at college games
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:25:45 GMT

In article <BrwLtp.LHo@ais.org> ssj@ais.org (Stephen S. Johnston) writes:
>ti.com>
>>>The most important thing that makes me dislike ND is the fact that they asked
>>>the O-Bowl to NOT sell BEER at the game. Is this the lamest thing you've ever
>>>heard of. I can't stand people who try to impose their values on others. I
>>>you don't want to drink at a football game don't but why ruin it for everyone
>>>else. Its this sense of superiority that really bugs me.
>>
>>Okay, I'll give you the point on the beer.
>>
> 
>I agree.  Enough about ND.  However, I'm curious to find out how many 
>college stadiums sell beer.   Michigan Stadium doesn't sell any kind 
>of alcohol.  That being the source of my main college football experience,
>I was surprised to see beer sold at the Rose Bowl this last year.  
>(So surprised that I bought a couple.) 
>Is it common for college stadiums to sell beer/alcohol?  
>As to the moral implications, well there are plenty of places one 
>can't buy beer.  Personally, I enjoy drinking beer, but can live 
>without it at a game.  Of course, the obnoxious drunks that I've 
>seen at games either smuggle in booze or get plastered before the 
>game.  
> 
>Steve 

I was one of those obnoxious drunks in Norman, OK for 4 years and they
didn't and don't sell beer at games, but it is easy enough to sneak it in.
Three of us once brought in two cases.  They don't sell it at the Cotton 
Bowl for OU/Texas, either.  CU is the only place I know of that does.
I guess they can't be all bad.

 - Bill D.    "I can't do that.  Us drunks got a code!"  - Otis
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Comments wanted: Two new 1A conferences in the making?
Date: 25 Jul 92 12:06:44 GMT
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

john@makesys.com (John Turman) wrote:
}
}I suppose you consider Oklahoma to be a patsie too? The team that had a 33-2
}record for the previous 3 years before Miami beat them for their first MNC?

One has to be continually amazed by the complete lack of knowledge 
of football of certain net.blowhards *even about theiur own team*, and
the frequency with which they choose to display it on the net.  A little 
history lesson for you, John:  Miami (FL) beat *Nebraska* for their first
National Championship election back in 1983.

}                                                  And I suppose you think
}Nebraska is a patsie too? If so how is almighty Gods own schools record against
}these imposters lately? When did you guys last shut the Big Red out?

If you are so eager to compare common opponents, why don't we compare Notre
Dame's game against Brigham Young this season to Miami's last game against
them?

-- 
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