HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: ronald@integow.uucp (Ronald Wopereis)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: termcap and terminfo wanted for WYSE-370
Keywords: WYSE
Date: 17 Apr 92 07:25:44 GMT
Organization: Integrity BV, Woerden, the Netherlands

Please send the termcap and/or terminfo to :

	suub!byte!erwin@integow.uucp
-- 
UUCP: ..!uunet!mcsun!hp4nl!integow!ronald  or  ronald@integow.uucp 
Ronald Wopereis, Consultancy Manager, Integrity Software Consultants, 
         Pelmolenlaan 2, 3447 GW Woerden, Netherlands,
            tel +31 3480-30131, fax +31 3480-30182
Organization: The Undead
X-Subliminal-Message: Memory is Divine Punishment
Date: Monday, 6 Apr 1992 16:49:15 EDT
From: Robert Edward Hart <REH113@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: tektronix terminal codes

Does anyone have a listing of the tektronix 4010/4014 terminal codes, and
theirmeanings/jobs ...like ESC FF for clear screen and go into tektronix
terminal emulation.  If you do, could you email them to me, as I do not
usually read this group.  Thanks in advance to all.

Bob Hart
reh113@psuvm.psu.edu
rhart@wilbur.psu.edu
rhart@snafu.psu.edu
From: gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals.tty5620
Subject: Re: Can a 630MTG program call Windowproc routines?
Keywords: ROM subroutines escape sequences
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:56:14 GMT
Organization: U.S. Army Ballistic Research Laboratory, APG, MD.

In article <1992Apr7.000402.69@unixg.ubc.ca> jeffrey@squid.tram.com writes:
>If you write a program and run it in place of the default Windowproc
>you lose *all* of the escape code handling!

Of course -- your application may have other uses for the data stream.

>This means that if I want to do any of the fancy curses-style
>processing, I have to either one of two things.  First off, I can
>re-implement the Windowproc to handle all the escape sequences I want.

This has been done, in the new-S package (licensed by AT&T).  There
were a few bugs which I have fixed in our version; if you want the
"diff" listing showing the bug fixes, let me know.

>The second option ... is to use the ROM image of Windowproc as a sort
>of library.

What I would also like to know is how one can do this decently.  Even
if you build in your own terminal emulator, you still lose the scroll
bars and mouse editing.  I'd like to be able to construct essentially
the following in the terminal

	HOST_CHANNEL <----> FILTER <----> DEFAULT_WINDOWPROC

where the "FILTER" is a downloaded application that inspects data
traffic and either passes it along or else consumes it with some
special action.  For example, in the case of the S terminal part,
it would look for a "begin graphics mode" code and once seen would
intercept all subsequent data, making plots etc. until an "end
graphics mode" code were seen.  (While not in graphics mode, one
would have full use of the Windowproc text support features.)

This is basically a job for "STREAMS", which the 630 doesn't appear
to have, but perhaps there is an adequate substitute available.  If
so, I hope somebody tells us about it!
Newsgroups: comp.terminals.tty5620
From: schnable@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (andrew.schnable)
Subject: Re: Can a 630MTG program call Windowproc routines?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 22:12:51 GMT

From article <18443@smoke.brl.mil>, by gwyn@smoke.brl.mil (Doug Gwyn):
> In article <1992Apr7.000402.69@unixg.ubc.ca> jeffrey@squid.tram.com writes:
> 
> 	HOST_CHANNEL <----> FILTER <----> DEFAULT_WINDOWPROC
> 

Perhaps you could patch the transfer vectors for getchar/putchar,
and make the patches smart enough to only do the filtering for
the windowproc layers.  The dmdlock program make great use of
tvslot patching to lock-out mouse/agent/keyboard activity - but
it doesn't have to worry about doing it's job selectivly.

a.schnable@att.com
From: jeffrey@squid.tram.com (Jeffrey Bromberger)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals.tty5620
Subject: Can a 630MTG program call Windowproc routines?
Keywords: ROM subroutines escape sequences
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:04:02 GMT
Reply-To: jeffrey@squid.tram.com
Organization: Tramway Unix Systems

I have discovered something (well, I had suspected it but now I've
convinced myself) about the 630MTG.  If you write a program and run
it in place of the default Windowproc (the window handler/emulator),
you lose *all* of the escape code handling!  For example, usually the
string ^]]2J will clear the screen.  Well, when your program is
running, all you get is {esc}]2J (where the {esc} is the tiny text
representation of the escape character).

This means that if I want to do any of the fancy curses-style
processing, I have to either one of two things.  First off, I can
re-implement the Windowproc to handle all the escape sequences I want.
I'd prefer not to do this if at all possible.  The second option (and
I hate this one also!) is to use the ROM image of Windowproc as a sort
of library.  There *must* be the subroutines in there to do the window
handling.  Can I access them from outside programs?  I do realize that
it makes my application limited the the firmware version you use, but
I'm getting desperate here!

Thanks in advance for any help you can give me!

j

--
Jeffrey L. Bromberger--- System Manager --- Tramway Unix Consulting
jeffrey@tram.com        Anywhere!{van-bc,ccnysci,icus}!tram!jeffrey
From: dlu@wobble.uucp (Doug Urner)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: Looking for an Ann Arbor Ambassador XL or two
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:09:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: wobble.1992Apr7.180921.18786
Distribution: usa
Organization: dlu UNIX Consultants

Anybody know where I can find some of these?

Thanks.

-- 
Doug Urner, dlu@wobble   "They tear down our comrades like leaves from a tree,
dlu UNIX Consulting       leaves from a tree, leaves from a tree, but the
Bellingham, WA            tree still stands, its roots locked to the land."
206/676-5759                              -- Song of the Exile,  Barry Guilder
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
From: rreiner@nexus.yorku.ca (Richard Reiner)
Subject: termcap for IBM 3101
Organization: York University
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 22:50:17 GMT

I'd appreciate receiving a good termcap for the IBM 3101.  (If any
dipswitch settings are required for your termcap entry to work, please
tell me.)

Thanks,

Richard
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
From: bchs2k@Rosie.UH.EDU
Subject: Programming the VT640 Terminal.
Reply-To: bchs2k@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 05:40:49 GMT

Hi,

I have a program that has a graphical interface that uses the VT640
Tektronix-4010 emulator, on a VT100 terminal equiped with a retro_Graphics
card.  I am trying to convert the graphical interface to X-Windows.

But, I do not understand the routines that are writing to the VT640
graphics card.  Especially I need some information on how the VT640
card is programmed.  I do not have a manual and so I am lost.
I was also wondering if anyone out there had a list of control characters
or esc sequences that are used to program the VT640.

Any help on this matter would be greatly appriciated.

Thank You,

James X.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 10 Apr 1992 18:01:32 CDT
From: <U54418@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: Defining pf keys on a visual 65.

Could someone please tell me how to define the pf keys on a visual 65 terminal?
Thanks.
--
u54418@uicvm.uic.edu
u54418@uicvm.bitnet
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
From: as613@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (J. Steve Collura)
Subject: Sun 4.1.1 rlogin hp3000 MPE V : What say ye?
Reply-To: as613@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (J S Collura)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 16:23:11 GMT




Hello world.


	I was asked to look into connecting 

a Sun Sparc running  SunOS_4.1.1 to
an hp3000   running 'MPE V  HP32033  G.A3.04'.

advance thanks,
joe
-- 
--
   as613@cleveland.Freenet.edu is JS Collura;  BOX!mail is currently down.

pipe..pipe..pipe..pipe..pi-god, i love unix-pe..pipe..pipe..pipe
Xref: sparky comp.terminals:644 comp.protocols.ibm:427
From: hagadorn@amsaa-cleo.brl.mil (Thomas Hagadorn)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals,comp.protocols.ibm
Subject: termcap for ibm3278
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:37:34 GMT
Followup-To: comp.terminals
Organization: Army Materiel Systems Analysis Activity


  I have a user with an ibmpc using a 3278 emulation card to connect to
an IBM3090.  He is now from there trying to connect to (via telnet) and
run an application on a Unix machine (Sun).  He's able to log on, but
naturally all the box frames in the application windows are messing
up.  My first thought was to find a termcap for an ibm3278, but since
no one 'ever' uses one of those in a Unix environment, I haven't got
one.  My second thought was to see if some procedural work around with
tn3270 might do the trick, but before I ftp and load the sources, I
thought perhaps the net might have some ideas.  E-mail responses
preferred with summary for those interested.

regards,
Tom Hagadorn       hagadorn@brl.mil
From: mayer@iuvax.cs.indiana.edu (Mayer Goldberg)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: vt102, vt131, vt220, vt240 "alternate rom character set"
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:11:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr7.111224.1791
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University

The Programmer's manual for the vt102, vt131 speaks of something
called "an alternate ROM character set". Apparently there's the
ability to define a character set on an eprom, place it in some
reserved slot on the terminals motherboard (I've seen the slot, it
exists), key in an escape sequence and set the vt102, vt131 to use a
different character set. I heard the vt220's and vt240's have a
similar option. 

In foreign countries this was a standard "add on", and I suspect they
may have an APL chip too ... but the vt102, vt131 are pretty old, and
I wasn't able to find specs for the eprom, the format they use for
coding the character set, etc., etc.

So ... If anyone has any information about the alternate ROM character
set, I would be most interested; especially for the vt102, vt131 which
do not take downloadable char sets. By "information" I mean docs on
the coding scheme and the eprom, a sample of a chip for some character
set (I could figure out the coding myself), a printout of the contents
of such an eprom, etc., etc.

Please mail to: mayer@iuvax.cs.indiana.eduy

Thanks, 

Mayer Goldberg
Newsgroups: comp.terminals,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: beckerr@pyrite.SOM.CWRU.Edu (Ross Becker)
Subject: Esix 5.3.2 and TCSH 6.01
X-Post-Machine: pyrite.som.cwru.edu
Organization: WSOM CSG, CWRU, Cleve. OH
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 92 15:32:54 GMT

I have Esix version 5.3.2D, and I FINALLY got uucp working this week,
and I got TCSH 6.01 or so, and I have not been able to get it to
compile on my system... Because I am a newbie to unix and porting, not
because of laziness. Has anyone out there figured out what specific
modifications you have to make to the Makefile, etc to get it to
compile? I seem to be getting a LOT of undefined symbols in "sh.c". If
you have you're modified makefile and whatever else laying around, and
could e-mail them to me, I would be EXTREMELY grateful... just plain
hints as to what I need to do would be appreciated also.

   Thanks,
     Ross Becker
     beckerr@pyrite.som.cwru.edu
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: 2nd hand Terminals & tapes 4 Sale
From: jansen_j@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:08:19 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wellington, NZ

                          F O R    S A L E

Left over from a system upgrade we have some used terminals. A mixture of
ESPRIT 2, ESPRIT 6110, ESPRIT 6310 in Amber and Green. Some can emulate ADM3A -
(lear sigler adm3a), TV1925 - (Televideo 925) VP/R25 - (ADDs Viewpint/Regent
25), HAZ - (hazeltine 1500/Espirt/Esprit ll) They were used on a RSTE/e system
as VT52's, Average age is approx 4-7 years.
Also have some used 6250bpi REEL Tapes going cheap.
All genuine offers will be considered.

 Contact :-     Geoff Carson  or   John Jansen
                       at
                Truck Investments
                29 Malden Street
                Private Bag 11027
                Palmerston North
                New Zealand
                Phone (06) 351 9826  or (06) 351 9853
                Fax   (06) 356 5586
From: gong@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (yiming gong)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: Prometheus's modem
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:19:46 GMT
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Originator: gong@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU

Hi,
	Is there any one who knows how to use Prometheus's promodem
2400?

Thanks in advance.

Yiming
Xref: sparky comp.terminals:643 comp.unix.sysv386:8413 comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware:13528
From: rjq@phys.ksu.edu (Rob Quinn)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: Need vt300 termcap entry
Date: 6 Apr 1992 17:01:42 GMT
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: bohr.phys.ksu.edu

 The windows on our VaxStations here emulate vt300's, and I would like to
support them fully on our Suns for telnet sessions. Does anyone have a termcap
entry for the vt300? Are there any "master termcap" files floating around that
I could ftp?

--
Rob Quinn
rjq@phys.ksu.edu
QuinnBob@KSUVM.BITNET
Newsgroups: comp.terminals,comp.windows.x
From: charette@cheetah.det.dec.com (Mark Charette)
Subject: Re: Help: cannot use the postscript previewer on my NCD X-terminal
Reply-To: charette@cheetah.det.dec.com (Mark Charette)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 14:42:21 GMT


In article <shlam.702842156@cucs11.cs.cuhk.hk>, shlam@cucs11.cs.cuhk.hk write:
|>I have a NCD X-terminal whose X boot server and host are DEC stations.
|>I cannot use the postscript previewer to view any postscript file.
|>
|>The error message is:
|>
|>X Toolkit Error: Server does not have PostScript extension.
|>Process 11202 exited "Postscript Previewer"
|>
|>Do I need to set some configure at the X boot server?
|>If you know the answer, please send me a e-mail. Thanks.
|>

The NCD X Server doesn't have the PostScript Extensions necessary to display 
anything from the dxpsview process. You'd have to get an X server for the NCD
that supports the PostScript extensions (I don't know if any area available).

--
Mark Charette                |Yes, I do speak for my employer. Really. Often.
Fisher Engineering Systems   |Digital Equipment Corporation is NOT my employer,
charette@cheetah.det.dec.com |so don't blame them. I just consult there.
Newsgroups: comp.terminals,comp.unix.sysv386,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware
From: sdw@bugatti (Steve Williams)
Subject: Re: Wyse160 vs IBMPC+Kermit
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 13:20:48 GMT

I wonder if some of the people here are really talking about a new
version of MS-Kermit as the emulation as opposed to other packages??

MS-Kermit is a near perfect VT100 emulation and I have never seen
anything run as fast.  Procomm for instance always messes up on
non-destructive backspace so I'm always having stuff disappear from
the screen.

Does anyone have any hard facts that anything else is faster or a
better emulation???

I have run 9600 on an xt with no dropped characters and 19200 on AT
and above with no problems.  It also now supports Telnet over ethernet
with clarkson packet drivers.

sdw
--
Stephen D. Williams    SDW Systems (513) 496-5223 Pager (513) 439-5428 VMail
Object Oriented R&D    Internet: sdw@world.std.com CIS 76244.210@compuserve.com
Source Distribution    By Horse: 10028 Village Tree Ct., Miamisburg, OH 45342
GNU Support            ICBM: 39 34N 85 15W
From: diegel@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Jan Diegelmann)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: GIF View for VT 240?
Keywords: VT 240, GIF
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:26:03 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence Hamburg


Do anyone know a GIF view for DEC VT-240 terminals?


Jan D.


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e-mail: diegel@mcshh.hanse.de
From: ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu (Chiquita Ponzino)
Newsgroups: comp.terminals
Subject: Teletex 3000 terminal, info needed! helphelp
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:49:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz



Yoyoyoyo hihi an helloes.. 

We've gots a teletex 3000 terminal, without manuals.. 
currently trying to configure the DIP switches so the terminal
will work with a 2400 baud hayes compat. modem thru a 25 pin rs232
serial cable... does anyone know anything about this model terminal
or teletex so that we mayest divine the information necessary to
properly bring said terminal online?  WE've already called Teletex
and theyve apparently gone out of bizness and and so we're 
dead in the water.  helphelphelp! my grandparents will die if someone
doesnt help us, this is a very serious matter.



A thousand raspberry donuts to you,

PLease email ensalada@cats.ucsc.edu, if you would, thanks!!

-xeporcaitlynorwhatever

:) :) :) :) 

.
From: simulation@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu (Moderator: Paul Fishwick)
Newsgroups: comp.simulation
Subject: SIMULATION DIGEST V27 N1
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:34:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: uflorida.34999
Reply-To: simulation@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu

Volume: 27, Issue: 1, Mon Apr  6 15:33:24 EDT 1992

+----------------+
| TODAY'S TOPICS |
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[GENERAL INFORMATION]
  Parallel Computers of the Future
  FAQ: Frequently Asked Questions File Needed
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[NEW QUESTIONS]
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  Simulation of Autonomous Agents
  Simulation of Programmable Logic Controllers
  Blood Circulation and Visualization
  Simulation in Medicine
[CALL FOR PAPERS/PARTICIPATION]
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  New Journal: Scientific Programming
  Object Oriented Simulation
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* Moderator: Paul Fishwick, Univ. of Florida
* Send topical mail to: simulation@bikini.cis.ufl.edu OR
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Newsgroups: comp.simulation
From: charles@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au (Charles Lakos)
Subject: Network simulation and analysis tools?
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 1 Apr 1992 07:51:08 GMT
Apparently-To: simulation@bikini.cis.ufl.edu

I have a colleague who wishes to determine performance estimates of a 
Graphical Information System over local area networks, metropolitan area
networks and wide area networks.

He can estimate the distribution of communication requests, which he would
like to feed into a simulator with various standard modules for the common 
networks, as indicated above.  He does *not* want to have to supply 
detailed low-level parameters.

Can anyone suggest appropriate tools?  references?
 --
Charles Lakos.                               C.A.Lakos@cs.utas.edu.au
Computer Science Department,                 charles@probitas.cs.utas.edu.au
University of Tasmania,                      Phone:    +61 02 20 2959
Australia.                                   Fax:      +61 02 20 2913



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To: comp-simulation@ns.uu.net
From: rene@mais.hydro.qc.ca (Aragon)
Newsgroups: comp.simulation
Subject: 3-D ANALYSIS
Keywords: 3-D
Date: 2 Apr 92 19:24:22 GMT


I am looking for a program for analysis and/or design of three-dimensional 
gravity structures. I've heard of a program developped by the American 
Army (3DSAD and CDAMS ???). This program will be used for the analysis
of concrete DAMS.

If anyone has information on this program or any program that will fit
our needs please contact me via private e-mail, this will be very much 
appreciated.

                                        Thanks,
                                        Rene Niquette
                                        Atkinson,Tremblay & Ass.
                                             
                                        e-mail: rene@tdsb-s.mais.hydro.qc.ca
 

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From: shoh@adam.kaist.ac.kr (Oh Sang Hun - DB 3570)
Subject: Simulation of Autonomy
To: simulation@bikini.cis.ufl.edu (simulation)
Date: Fri, 3 Apr 92 9:14:39 KST
Cc: shoh@adam.kaist.ac.kr (Oh Sang Hun - DB 3570)
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]


Hi!

I am studying on the simulation of active objects which
can make their decisions and perform their actions,
without receipt of messages of other objects.
I think that it is very difficult or impossible to simulate
such autonomy in computer systems.

I want to hear some ideas or discussions.

Sang Hun Oh
shoh@adam.kaist.ac.kr




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From: song@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: comp.simulation
Subject: 
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Could anyone give me references on the simulation of the programmable
logic controller (PLC) based systems ?

To date I only find one reference on this topic:

J. Bailey, Simulation and the control industry," C&I, vol.22, no.1,
	January, 1990, pp. 45-47.

I promise to post a collection of references contributed by the netters later.

Many thanks

Ji,

PS  I am not interested in the simulation of high-level control systems
such as flow-shops etc.



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Date: Sat, 4 Apr 92 22:18:05 -0800
From: edwin@CS.UCLA.EDU (Edwin Tisdale)
To: fishwick@fish.cis.ufl.edu
Subject: Cranial Aneurysms, CFD, Simulation, Visualization

We have a surgeon here in the Medical Center at UCLA who specializes
in cranial aneurysms.  He wants to simulate and visualize blood flow
through an aneurysm.  I suppose he would also want to model the effect
of the catheters and implants that he uses.  I can imagine that he
would use the system to plan and rehearse operations as well as helping
patients, medical students and staff to visualize the procedures.

I have been reading from the von Karman Institute for Fluid Dynamics
Lecture Series 1991-07 "Computer Graphics and Flow Visualization in
Computational Fluid Dynamics".  Apparently, everything he wants to
do can be done with "off-the-shelf" hardware and software.  But before
we recommend the purchase of expensive hardware and software, we would
like to propose a simple demonstration project to prove the feasibility
and value of this idea.  We hope that this would support a graduate
student for up to six months and eventually lead to a more serious
effort resulting in a useful system and a dissertation.

Can you provide references and recommend software that would run on
hardware (Sun4, RS6000, Stardent, SGI, etc.) that we have here in the
computer science department and visualization laboratory at UCLA?
Of course, at this stage, we are most interested in software that we
can obtain without commitment (free) so that we can evaluate it before
making a decision.  Thanks in advance, Bob Tisdale.  (edwin@cs.ucla.edu)


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To: uunet!comp-simulation@uunet.UU.NET
Newsgroups: comp.simulation
From: kayaalp@seas.smu.edu (Mehmet M. Kayaalp MD)
Subject: Resarch Labs dealing with Medical Knowledge Modeling
Organization: School of Engineering and Applied Science
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 08:36:06 GMT


Does anybody know any research labs in the US and Canada (other than in 
academia) which are deeply involved with the medical knowledge modeling 
and simulation issues?
Thanks for your responses!
 -- 
Mehmet M. Kayaalp, M.D.         phone  : (214)692-3095
Computer Science Department     voice  : (214)706-5982
Southern Methodist University   fax    : (214)692-3085
Dallas, Texas 75275-4191        E-mail : kayaalp@seas.smu.edu 



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Newsgroups: comp.multimedia,comp.simulation,comp.software-eng,comp.theory,sci.lang,sci.logic,sci.math.symbolic