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From: reggel@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Hans-Juergen Reggel)
Subject: Pauila Abdul CD singles
Originator: reggel@hphalle7b.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 15:30:13 GMT


Hi! 
Inspired by Richard's question I made a list of Paula Abdul singles I got.

I would like to know what others are available.
Please post: title, order #, # of tracks & playing time
of additional CD's.

Here's my list:

Cold Hearted:  Germany: Virgin 662 549  (*4+1 27:50)
               Japan: Virgin VJD-15556  (*1+3 27:28)
               UK: Virgin VUSCD 27  (*4  17:10)

Forever Your Girl:  Germany: Virgin 662 244  (*2+2  19:16)   
                    Japan: Virgin VJD-10207  (*1+1  (9:12)
                    Germany: Remix: Virgin 662 516  (*2  12:27)
                    US Promo: Virgin PRCD 2647  (*1  4:16)

It's Just The Way That You Love Me:  Germany: Virgin 662 810  (*4  22:46)   
                                     UK Promo: Virgin PRCD 2931  (*2  8:05)

Knocked Out:  UK: Virgin VUSCD 23  (*1+3  16:23)   
              Japan: Virgin VJD-12022  (*2+1  15:27)

Opposites Attract:  Germany: Virgin 663 023  (*6  30:44)                                             
                    US Promo: Virgin PRCD 3100  (*2  7:31)
                    UK: Siren SRNCD 124  (*3+1  18:04)
 
Rush Rush:  Europe: Virgin VUSCD 38  (*3  15:16) 

Spellbound:  UK Promo: Virgin PAULA 2  (4  19:16)

Straight Up:  Germany: Virgin 661 997  (*4  19:52)

The Promise Of A New Day:  Europe: Virgin VUSCD 44  (*3  16:47)
                           US Promo: Virgin PRCD 4043  (*5  25:48)

The Singles:  Japan: Virgin VJCP-14038  (4  25:32)

Vibeology:  Europe: Virgin VUSCD 53  (*5  27:37)
            US Promo: Virgin PRCD 4098  (*6  33:38)

Will You Marry Me:  Europe: Virgin VUSCD 58  (*2+2  17:16) 


Hoping to get a lot of answers...
                                     Hans-Juergen
From: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Sony's SBM CD Mastering
Date: 31 Jul 92 04:31:45 GMT
Reply-To: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com (George Robbins)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <RSHAPIRO.92Jul30101949@pilsner.bbn.com> rshapiro@bbn.com (Richard Shapiro) writes:
> >As has been mentioned in email, yes, I'm cynical as hell about SBM.  
> 
> Considering that you've yet to hear an SBM cd but that, nonetheless,
> you've already formed a strong opinion as to its worth, I'm not sure
> that "cynical" is quite the right word to use here...

There is plenty of reason to be cynical, since it appears that Sony is
taking a well known technique of dithering and dressing it up as this
years prom queen.  Perhaps they have made seme improvements that are
audible, perhaps it represents a coporate committment to "better quality"
mastering, perhaps it's the emperors new clothes.

-- 
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but no way officially representing:   domain: grr@cbmvax.commodore.com
Commodore, Engineering Department     phone:  215-431-9349 (only by moonlite)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha)
Subject: Re: Taping CD's
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 01:38:55 GMT

bsou@cs.arizona.edu (Brandon S. Ou) writes:
>jjmckay@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Jim McKay) writes:
>
>>>You should not copy CD's but buy them ! Just kiddin', this is NOT a flame !
>>
>>But you do raise an issue that I've always woondered...Is it legal (because
>>of loophole) to make a tape of CD you own for your persoannel use or is
>>ALL taping of CDs unauthorized?  What are the clauses?  Color me ignorant
>>of the law on this one.  Thanks for replies you legal experts!!!! :-)
>
>I've always wondered about that also:  If all these CD's and TV shows
>and videotapes and softwares are copyrighted and all that, why do they
>even sell blank tapes and videocassettes etc for then?
>

And, to push it one step further, why are TV guides (regular and cable) 
starting to publish those codes so that you can set your VCR more simply?
(I can almost understand regular TV guides, but why do the cable companies
want you to tape their uncut movies?)

***GlittoFern*** glitto@iastate.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: aa595@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Dan Duvall)
Subject: TULL "Sackful of Trousersnakes" 2-CD set wanted
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio, (USA)
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 19:22:10 GMT


If you can get a copy of the 2-CD Tull set "Sackful of Trousersnakes,"
send me e-mail. I'll happily buy it or trade other Tull goodies for it.

-- 
          aa595@cleveland.freenet.edu (Dan Doooooooovall)
From: u9264442@cc.uow.edu.au (Andrew William Easton)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: portable CD player
Date: 27 Jul 92 23:54:22 GMT
Organization: University Of Wollongong

nickn@midiline.la.ca.us (nick nelson) writes:

>I'm looking for a player to connect to my car cassette player
>in the $200 or so range.  I'm more concerned with shock
>resistance and general ruggedness (do they make mil-spec CD
>players?) than pristine sound quality.  The Sony D180K seemed
>to shield against my simulated _road shocks_ better than a 
>Kenwood I compared it with, but I was wondering about other
>Sonys and other brands, too.  Also, what kind of mounting
>works best to isolate the player from shocks?  E-mail or
>post here.


>-----
>nickn@midiline.la.ca.us (nick nelson) 
>MIDILine BBS (midiline.la.ca.us) - Altadena CA - (818)797-3285

The Sony D88K seems to have the best shock resistance of anything that I have
listened to, although the D66 (which I have) is excellent as well. Sony sells
a mounting arm and plate (or at least they do in Australia) that removes 
virtually any shock (a friend of mine drove up a gutter without a jump). The
downside is that it has to be bolted into your car. The plate also provides
power from the ciggarette lighter socket to your discman.

The Bearded One..... 

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From: t8800568@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Recordable CDs (was Re: Will the new Mini Disk format make it?)
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:33:52 GMT
Organization: Phillip Institute of Tech, Melbourne

I suppose the other advantage of recordable CD is that the more copies
you make (ie second..third..forth..) the better it sounds!  

IMHO, recordable CD will remain a medium for the professional, (due to
the probable high cost of recording material, and the lack of erasure
ability.

I predict that DCC will become the dominant medium for the home recording
person.  It appears to offer better performance than Compact cassette,
whilst remaining compatable (The players are anyway) with that medium.

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#   toc@arcadia.mc.phillip.edu.au.#  waters mud, and cancer lurks deep  #
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Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu (R. Lynn Rardin)
Subject: CD DETERIORATION
Reply-To: rardin@binah.cc.brandeis.edu
Organization: Brandeis University
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:33:40 GMT

I have a couple of CDs (Billy Joel's COLD SPRING HARBOR on Columbia and LOUIS 
ARMSTRONG MEETS OSCAR PETERSON on Verve) that have turned gold to brown at the 
outer edge.  It appears as though the color change is in the aluminum, but it 
looks as though the color change has only occurred on the top (label) side 
and not on the data side.  The CDs continue to play fine.  My feeling is that 
this cannot be the result of aluminum oxidation, since aluminum oxide is 
colorless or white.  Has anyone else noticed such a change in any of their CDs?

-Lynn

< R. Lynn Rardin (rardin@auriga.rose.brandeis.edu)  >
< Rosenstiel Basic Medical Sciences Research Center >
< Brandeis University, Waltham, MA                  >
< Waltham, MA 02254-9110                            > 
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha)
Subject: Re: Will the new Mini Disk format make it?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:57:11 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.174534.11109@aero.org> Clare Waterson writes:
>I've been hearing some info about Sony's new CD-like format called
>"Mini Disk".  It's a 3" optical read/write disk encased in a rigid
>plastic shell (sorta like 3.5" floppy disk shells).  It uses sound
>compression methods to allow 90 minutes of music to be stored at
>CD-level quality.  Track names and album title can be programmed onto
>the disk itself.  Sony is expected to make this technology available by
>the end of the year or early next year.  Apparently they will be
>focussing primarily on the portible player market.
>
>It seems obvious to me and those I've talked to that the Mini Disk
>format is clearly superior in every way to the DCC format, but I hear
>that the "expert" marketing word on the street is that DCC is highly
>favored to win out due to the large number of companies supporting it
>and that Sony is going out on a limb since it is promoting the Mini
>Disk format on its own.
>
>What have y'all heard?  I'd expect that folx on this group would be
>supportive of the Mini Disk effort; is this true?  Does anyone have
>more info on Mini Disk marketing and pre-recorded disk availability?
>

Well, I'll have to stop back by the office and check any specifics, but
I think Digital corporation is joining in on this thing, too. Outside
of one of the professor's offices in my building is a letter soliciting
people with a statistical background to work with them on quality control
and other stuff for mini discs. The letter claims that the discs can
store up to 78 minutes of digital music, and track information can be
added to the discs. That's about all the product information they gave
with the letter.

Personally, I'm all for the discs, and find them superior to the DCC
format, mainly because of the random access ability.

*****GlittoFern***** glitto@iastate.edu
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From: lllowen@netcom.com (lllowen)
Subject: Re: Looking for "LEGEND" soundtrack...!
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 16:20:51 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <1992Jul20.211137.9216@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu> 
ejhupper@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Huppertz) writes:
>
>Hello all, 
>
>Boy, am I having a tough time finding the CD of the soundtrack from
>the movie _Legend_.  (Tom Cruise)  Music by Tangerine Dream, with
>one song by Bryan Ferry and one TD song with Jon Anderson (Yes) on the
>vocals...  I have tried import record stores but no luck, and even
>Varese Sarabande doesn't carry it.  
>
>Anyone know where the Legend soundtrack can be ordered on CD?
>

As Elana and some others have said, unfortunately the CD is not available.
It may show up later, but possibly won't.  Reasons follow. 

I know of two problems why the album was never released on CD.  One semi-
important and another not as important.  The minor problem of not releasing
LEGEND on CD had to do with Bryan Ferry and complications with his ROXY
MUSIC contract.  There is a 12" single available, but doesn't show Ferry
as being with ROXY MUSIC.  A lawsuit evolved on the argument that Ferry
broke contract with ROXY somehow.  Apparantly he was only to make music with
ROXY at the time or give ROXY some credit.  They weren't, so a lawsuit of 
some sort started.

The major issue involved Jon Anderson, MCA and Tangerine Dream.  There is a
title on the album called LOVED BY THE SUN.  Vocals are done by Jon Anderson
and the music is played by Tangerine Dream.  Originally the song was comp-
osed and performed by Tangerine Dream, like the rest of the soundtrack, and
the only vocals it was supposed to contain was the line poetry by a young
female at the end.  After Tangerine Dream finished all their studio work,
they left with the idea that the soundtrack was complete, however, MCA hired
Anderson to sing vocals over the instrumental LOVED BY THE SUN.  Anderson
sang without the permission of Tangerine Dream.  To TD's suprise, when the
album was released they then first heard the new Anderson/Tangerine Dream
track.  TD sued MCA and I never heard what the outcome was.  This happened
back in 1987, just around when CD's were gaining serious popularity.  It was
decided that a CD would not be released until a settlement was possibly
reached.  As I said, I don't know what the court outcome was, and if indeed
an agreement has been met, it apparantly moved against the favor of ever
releasing a CD.

-- 
Lon Lowen Jr.                      lllowen@netcom.com
Netcom On-Line Communications
Calling remote from Michigan
From: td@babar.inria.fr (Thierry Despeyroux)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Will the new Mini Disk format make it?
Date: 24 Jul 92 07:15:38 GMT
Reply-To: Thierry.Despeyroux@sophia.inria.fr
Organization: INRIA, Sophia-Antipolis (Fr)

In article <1992Jul22.210953.4124@umbc3.umbc.edu>, hannon@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. Scott Hannon; PHYS (GRAD)) writes:

|> The other advantage is obviously that they can RECORD as well as play
|> back pre-recorded tapes/discs. However, I've read that a recordable
|> CD is in the works, so this advantage may not last long.  

CD's recorders do exist, but there are VERY expensive. And recordable
CD's are expensive too...

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From: stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Stephen Carter)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Stones CDs
Date: 28 Jul 92 07:17:56 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex

From article <1992Jul23.153451.15297@rsg1.er.usgs.gov>, by ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder):
> Does anyone know of the sound quality of Rolling Stones CDs? 
> Especially "Their Satanic Majesties Request" and "Hot Rocks".
> Thanks
> 


"Flashpoint!" is worth listening to as it uses a new technique
(Rolansound?? - no flames please) which gives stunning depth to the
reproduction.  

That said, the old ones are the best.

BTW I am workgin on a magnum opus on early stones real Stereo CD. 
Don't hold your breath!





Stephen Carter, Systems Manager, The Administration,
The University of Sussex, Falmer, Brighton BN1 9RH, UK
Tel: +44 273 678203  Fax: +44 273 678335     JANET: stevedc@uk.ac.sussex.syma
EARN/BITNET  : stevedc@syma.sussex.ac.uk      UUCP: stevedc@syma.uucp
ARPA/INTERNET: stevedc%syma.sussex.ac.uk@nsfnet-relay.ac.uk
From: schuster@panix.com (Michael Schuster)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: A Decade of Steely Dan re-mastered????
Date: 25 Jul 92 14:24:57 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Jul24.123021.4089@pool.info.sunyit.edu> gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Terrance Stedman) writes:
>
>	While flipping through CDs in a record shop the other day, I noticed
>that there was a re-mastered sticker on Steely Dan's "Decade..." release.
>So my question is whether or not this CD differs from the one I bought
>about a year ago.  The packaging was the same on both save the aforementioned
>sticker.  Thanks!

I think it's bogus.
I bought Decade the week it was released, and it's obviously of better
sound quality than the bargain line releases of the individual titles
(until this month). The compilation CD's =were= made from the correct
tapes in the first place, so the gold sticker has no meaning.



-- 
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From: kevin@alsvid.une.edu.au (Kevin Pollard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Latest features on CD players - what are they?
Date: 24 Jul 92 01:47:44 GMT
Organization: University of New England - Northern Rivers (Lismore)

I'm about to purchase a CD player for home. Nothing too grand my
finances keep it that way.

I was going to buy one about 2 years ago - at that time I formed
the opinion it was probably worth waiting for a while to see what

-- 
Kevin Pollard			Internet:	kevin@alsvid.une.edu.au
Programmer/Analyst		Phone:		+61 (066) 203969
Registrar's Division - University of New England, Lismore NSW Australia
From: robinson@akira.ogo.dec.com (will robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Springsteen - boot cd 'Roses and Broken Hearts'
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:33:12 GMT
Reply-To: robinson@akira.ogo.dec.com (will robinson)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation




Does anyone have _any_ information on the

new Springsteen three cd bootleg called

'Roses & Broken Hearts'?  - It is an

'88 show from Mountian View, Ca and

I think is out on Great Dane (which 

useally does very good with their releases).

BUT I don't want to fork over $75 for anything

less than a soundboard - so if you have any

info on this boot could you _please_ give

me input.



tx
will


robinson@asds.enet.dec.com

or

robinson@akira.ogo.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd,rec.music.misc,alt.music.progressive
From: hinz@bonfire (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987)
Subject: Re: King Crimson / Discipline question
Organization: GE Medical Systems, Magnetic Resonance
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 10:18:46 GMT

Since we're discussing different mixes and the like,  has anyone else noiced
that there seems to be two versions of Aqualung?  I bought my copy on CD long
ago, and it is VERY hissy.  Now I hear the radio stations playing it, and there
are differences in guitar solos, vocals, timing, and more.  Did someone decide
that the sound quality was so crappy they had to remaster it?

Just curious.

--

Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
hinz@picard.med.ge.com


From: hughw@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Hugh Williams)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:59:54 GMT
Subject: Re: WANTED:  Jethro Tull Box Set
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (NMD MTA MWTD)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd

/ hpmwcim:rec.music.cd / fred@isl.Stanford.EDU (Fred Vachss) / 12:18 pm  Jul 24, 1992 /
Would anybody know where I can find a copy of the Tull box set.  It's been
out of print for about a year now and none of the local stores have copies
anymore.  

Any info would be appreciated.

Thanks, 
Fred Vachss

----------

I was told by another searcher that the paper and graphics company that made
the liner notes for the set went out of business, and that was the reason
that the set hasn't been available, not that it was truly "out of print".
My friend (who is also desperately searching for a copy) was told that
the set will become available again - exactly when was not known...

hugh williams
hughw@sr.hp.com

Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Bootleg Mastering -- Is it as easy as it sounds?
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 23:51:29 GMT

schweda@iastate.edu (Christopher Schweda) writes:

>I
>am interested in the process -- and the fact that it seems to be coming
>back into fashion here in America. I go in record stores and see all
>kinds of labels -- a few of which look as though they're American based
>companies. Any ideas???

I actually see a lot of bootleg cds that look like they are made outside the
US but which I suspect are just made to look like imports so it's harder to
track the bootleggers and so stores can represent them as rare imports. 

My biggest fear if I were going to do this would be getting caught and losing
my money, my discs and probably being fined or even jailed. 

I think it's not too difficult to track where a cd was pressed. Don't they 
usually include the pressing plant and some reference number stamped in the 
disc itself? 

I would make sure that any transactions you do with a pressing plant were
essentially untraceable. Don't pay with a VISA card or company or personal 
check - maybe use a cashiers check or MO. Don't have them ship the goods to 
your home address - either pick them up yourself or rent a PO box or figure
out some way that they can't trace where they were delivered to. Use a fake
name. 

I's probably not worth the hassle. In my opinion bootleggers are scum who
are profiteering by ripping off artists they claim to like or be supporting. 
There are obviously huge profits in it when it only costs a couple bucks to
press a disc and they sell for $20 - $40 a disc in stores. A single bootleg
could possibly bring someone more profits than I make in an honest year
of work. I have nothing against the trading of live audience tapes as I don't
see that as actually taking money away from the artists. But the sale of their
work by anyone else but them or their label is a crime and the assholes who
do anything like this deserve what comes to them if they get caught. I suspect
the actual penalties in a case like this are pretty lenient and that it's 
unlikely any bootlegger will actually spend time in prison... but they're
still scum and doing something morally unjustifiable IMHO.

How about those guys who knockoff clone cassettes of major label releases? I 
saw a newspaper article recently about some girl who called the cops becasue 
she thought there was an intruder in her house. The police came and searched
the house on her request and found her parents had $50,000 in dubbing equipment
and piles of bootlegged tapes. Busted! And I think it's only a misdemeanor. 

  - malcolm@wrs.com
From: ops@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Re: Where is Chris Rea from?
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:45:27 GMT
Followup-To: rec.music.cd
Organization: Oxford University VAXcluster

In article <7911@dirac.physics.purdue.edu>, shmulevi@gibbs.physics.purdue.edu (Ilya Shmulevich) writes:
> Could someone please tell me where Chris Rea is from? His music sounds like
> he is from the United States, but he is certainly more popular in Europe.
> European record buyers have made him one of the most successful rockers on
> the continent. His songs from "New light through old windows" were
> chart-busters east of the atlantic.
> 
> thanks,
> 
>   ------------------------  Ilya Shmulevich  ----------------------------
>   shmulevi@ecn.purdue.edu |                 | shmulevi@physics.purdue.edu
>   Electrical Engineering  |                 | Physics
>   Signal Processing       |                 | Systems Programmer
>   ------------------------ Purdue University ----------------------------

He's English (the Road To Hell is an entire concept album about the M25,
the motorway all the way around London), but it's true he does have a major
following on the continent. New Light Through Old Windows was recorded (NB all
the old tracks were re-recorded) in Switzerland I think. I hope this is some
help.


Tristan
From: phaedrus@unkaphaed.UUCP (James Hartman, Sysop)
Newsgroups: rec.music.cd
Subject: Dolby Singles - Double-Digipak
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 12:26:18 GMT
Organization: Unka Phaed's UUCP Thingy

Purchased some Thomas Dolby singles for the upcoming album.  They were marketed
in a double-digipak; the first of two you bought in the digipak, then the
second was in the mega-thin plastic box which you then took out and placed in
the other side of the digipak.  I know of two sets of these, and I paid full
price for the lot (sigh) - so, beware, buyers...  Also the digipaks don't hold
up too well with the weight of two CDs in them.  :=(
--
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