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From: ric@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.g.irvin)
Subject: Re: Giants QB situation
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 14:23:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.205219.24808@morrow.stanford.edu> GC.JAB@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tony Bechtold) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.192626.14089@Princeton.EDU>,
>hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan) writes:
>... And from past experience, I can't remember Hoss' having much
>success against the 49ers, but Simms on the other hand has had
>relatively good success throughout his career.
>Anyways, what 49er pass rush? :->
>                                                    Tony
>                                                 GO 49ERS!!!
Tony, Hoss is 2-0 against the 9ers, as a starter.
In prior games with Simms in, the 9ers defense only had to get pressure
'up the middle', but with Hoss, especially on obvious passing situations,
their LB's couldn't cheat up on the line, because Hoss can get to the corners
with ease.

			RIC. IRVIN
			AT&T BELL LABORATORIES.

"TOUCHDOWN !!!! ... just kidding Dad! " my son at 18 months.

"In football, good hitting usually beats good pitching."

"... Lawrence Taylor was all over him... like syrup on pancakes." John Madden.

"...This Game is being broadcast in stereo..." Pat Summerall.
"...What does spit sound like in stereo? "	John Madden.

			PEACE.
From: jjdti@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.D.Tilander)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: NFC EAST- GET OFF IT!
Keywords: Satellite
Date: 25 Aug 92 22:55:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Chevron

In article <1992Aug25.195523.27264@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes) writes:
>thing in the division.  The NFC East features some of the best defenses
>in the NFL led by the always entertaining Eagles' Gang Green.  And you
>call the 'Posse boring?  Emmitt Smith?  Michael Irvin?  The NFL One-man
>Highlight film, Randall Cunningham boring?  Go back to lurking if you're
>going to post such nonsense!
>
>
I have every bit as much right to post as you.  I don't think what I said
is nonsense...you take everything so literally.  What I mean is that
boring is in the eye of the beholder, so to speak.  The Giants that won the
most recent super bowl( 2 years ago) were boring...still are.  Cowboys are
better...eagles will be okay if cunningham plays (i don't recall he did much
playing last year?!)  I would rather watch Marino than Rypien, Elway than 
baby face Cowboy QB (his name escapes me) or Rice than Irvin...my prerogative.
I think they're more fun to watch than NFC east matchups...but it doesn't matter...most of the national telecasts I see have NFC east teams.

Maybe I will go back to lurking...you people can't accept a point of view that'sdifferent from your own, I guess.  Don't be so damn mean.
-- 
Janet Tilander
Chevron Exploration and Production Services Co.
San Ramon, CA
Organization: Central Michigan University
Date: Wednesday, 2 Sep 1992 03:22:22 EDT
From: William Grant <343VTQ2@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: EATING WORDS!

In article <52Qm026120ds01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com>, agr00@ccc.amdahl.com (Anthony G
Rose) says:
>
>From amdahl!charon.amdahl.com!uunet!olivea!donehoo Wed Aug 26 17:28:34 PDT
>1992
>Article 24631 of rec.sport.football.pro:
>Path: JUTS!amdahl!charon.amdahl.com!uunet!olivea!donehoo
>>From: donehoo@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Doyle Donehoo)
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
>Subject: Joe (Toast?) Montana
>Message-ID: <55886@olivea.atc.olivetti.com>
>Date: 26 Aug 92 21:25:16 GMT
>Sender: news@olivea.atc.olivetti.com
>Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA
>Lines: 16
>
>>Remember those of you who said Joe was Toast? That Joe was
>>ashed up? That he was outta here??
>
>>Well, toast is served. Eat your words.
>
>>Joe Montana was throwing in practice today, and will start this Friday.
>
>>The rest of the league and their fans can go back to their regular
>>rogram of cowering and shaking when number 16 hits the field. :-) Hee hee.
>>Joe is BACK! Now the 49ers are at least 3 deep in great QBs.
>
>>Is number 16 still on the field? Then it's not over yet."
>        -Collingsworth, when his team was ahead in the Superbowl
>         in the last minutes of the game.
>
>>(Now, lets see how Joe does.)
>
>
>Will the guy who said this stand forward now?

I don't think he will...... Seeing as how the toast seems to have been taken
off the table now.  Joe WHO????  IF he makes it back this season (and that's
BIG IF) he's going go come out,  throw 3-4 lousy passes,  be booed off the
field,  and Bono will come in and push him to 3rd string.  If the 49ers were
smart,  they'd trade him to some dull team  like Tampa or Green Bay where they
can take ANOTHER garbage and throw him on the heap.  Maybe they could get a
7th or 8th round draft pick for him.  Hell with the way the Lions like QB's,
maybe they'd pick him up.  Here he'd be 4th string behind Long. Maybe he can
still hold the ball for Cofer on FG's (this may be asking too much though)
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From: gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com (Christopher Gattuso)
Subject: Re: Neal Anderson II
Organization: Motorola LMPS
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 18:44:07 GMT
Keywords: n

>This trade makes no sense either way. The Bears do not have a proven runner to
							       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>replace Neal and the Rams can hardly claim to have a stable of great receivers.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is not true.  The Bears have Darren Lewis.  He has quite a surprise for
the Bears last season and this season and Ditka loves him.  Neal hasn't done
squat for the Bears when Muster hasn't been in there to block for him, and
Lewis has done well with anyone.

I am not anti-Neal by any means.  But, he still has to prove he can run 
without Muster.  I believe he will get, and deserves, to start.  But if he
cannot hold his own....YANK 'EM!!!!  And give Lewis a chance to star.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
     __		       __    		Christopher Gattuso
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   / / /	     / / /  		gattuso@ssd.comm.mot.com
  / / /		    / / / __ 		Motorola, Inc.
 / / /	hristopher / / / / /\ attuso    Schaumburg, Illinois
/_/ /	  __	  /_/ / /_/  \
\ \ \	 / /\	  \ \ \ \_\/\ \         "It is the hardest dive in the 
 \ \ \	/ / /	   \ \ \  / / /		 Olympics:  half-gainer, no
  \ \ \/ / /	    \ \ \/ / /		 brainer!!!"
   \ \ \/ /	     \ \ \/ /			- Jerry Seinfeld, refering
    \ \  / 	      \ \  /  			    to Greg Lougainis in 
     \_\/              \_\/  			    the 1988 Olympics 
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Xref: sparky rec.sport.football.pro:15253 dc.redskins:121
From: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro,dc.redskins
Subject: Washington Redskins Depth Chart - 9/1/92
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:12:47 GMT
Reply-To: swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Steve Williams)
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Carderock Division, Naval Surface Warfare Center


	     Washington Redskins Depth Chart

   Note: Players listed first are projected starters.


OFFENSE:
-------
Left Wide Receiver:
 84 Gary Clark
 83 Ricky Sander

Left Tackle:
 79 Jim Lachey
 67 Ray Brown

Left Guard:
 63 Raleigh McKenzie
 64 Mo Elewonibi

Center:
 53 Jeff Bostic
 52 Matt Elliott

Right Guard:
 69 Mark Schlereth
 61 Mark Adickes

Right Tackle:
 66 Joe Jacoby
 76 Ed Simmons

Tight End:
 85 Don Warren
 87 Ron Middleton

Right Wide Receiver:
 81 Art Monk
 92 Desmond Howard
 93 86 Stephen Hobbs

Halfback:
 89 Terry Orr (actually a tight end)
 82 John Brandes (actually a tight end; also functions as long snapper)

Running Back:
 21 Earnest Byner
 32 Ricky Ervins
 30 Brian Mitchell

Quarterbacks:
 11 Mark Rypien
 12 Gary Conklin


DEFENSE:
-------
Left Cornerbacks:
 35 Martin Mayhew
 20 Alvoid Mays

Left Defensive Ends:
 71 Charles Mann
 99 Jason Buck

Left Defensive Tackles:
 94 Bobby Wilson
 99 Jason Buck

Right Defensive Tackles:
 78 Tim Johnson
 97 Jumpy Geathers

Right Defensive Ends:
 60 Fred Stokes
 92 Keith Willis

Right Cornerbacks:
 28 Darrell Green
 47 A.J. Johnson

Left Linebackers:
 58 Wilber Marshall
 51 Monte Coleman

Middle Linebackers:
 50 Ravin Caldwell
 54 Kurt Gouveia

Right Linebackers:
 55 Andre Collins
 51 Monte Coleman

Safeties (SS):
 26 Danny Copeland
 45 Sidney Johnson

Safeties (FS):
 27 Brad Edwards
 34 Terry Hoage

SPECIAL TEAMS:
-------------
Kicker:
  8 Chip Lohmiller

Punters:
  2 Kelly Goodburn
  4 Jeff Fite

Long Snapper:
 82 John Brandes

Punt Returners:
 30 Brian Mitchell
 92 Desmond Howard

Kick Returners:
 30 Brian Mitchell
 92 Desmond Howard

Holder:
 10 Jeff Rutledge
  2 Kelly Goodman

---------------------------------------------------------------------
 Steve Williams                           swilliam@oasys.dt.navy.mil
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Packer notes
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Distribution: na
Date:  1 SEP 92 15:44:35    

In article <1992Sep1.161033.1408@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, tkelsey@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (todd.p.kelsey) writes...

>In article <1992Sep1.144910.785@cis.ohio-state.edu> martens@laurel.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep1.122233.18784@cbfsb.cb.att.com> tkelsey@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (todd.p.kelsey) writes:
> 
>I don't think they have any backup guards.  Frank Winters is the backup
>center and the long snapper.  I believe Harvey Salem made the team as a
>tackle and, of course, there's Mandarich.  He appears destined for IR.
>I would anticipate the Packers picking up some OL.

I think they're going to pick up some people from the waiver wire.  
Actually, they should be doing this right now.  I'll have to watch the 
news tonight to see if I'm correct.

>According to my count that leaves the Packers with only 4 receivers
>on the team (Sharpe, Beach, Brooks, and Taylor).  Interestingly, only
>Sharpe was on the team last year.  The purge of Lindy's players is on.

The purge began, when?, last May when Mark Murphy was demoted and 
subsequently asked to be released.  I've been talking about this for a 
while - 47 of the 90 players the Packers had rights to when training 
camp started were not with the team last year.  I suppose it's no 
longer possible but they coulda had a whole new team.

JGH
From: feats@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Redskins Signings
Date: 26 Aug 92 10:35:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, VA


The Redskins have signed Jim Lachey, Darrell Green and Desmond Howard to
multiyear deals.  We can finally start working toward a showdown with
those dreaded Cowboys.  I surely hope Dallas does not sign Jay Novacek
(sp?) for the opener!  Will that Earvin guy do to Darrell what he did
last year in game two at RFK?  What will Dallas do to stop Monk, Clark,
Sanders, and Howard?  Emmett Smith is going to have a field day against
that porous Redskin defensive line.  The poor Redskins once mighty
offensive line is now reduced to mediocraty with no depth whatsoever!

I surely love the Redskins, but a repeat is extremely doubtful.  They
may be lucky to win 4 games in their own division.  Hey guys, with their
quarterback returning (Rosenburg or whatever) Phoenix will win some
games!  Whomever wins the toughest division in football may be too beat
up to get very far in the playoffs.

Prediction (which I'm terrible at):
==========

Dallas
Philadelphia
Washington
Phoenix
N.Y. Giants
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Subject: Re: NFL RealignmentI like the idea of re-naming the various NFL divisions after the
From: <JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 28 Aug 1992 09:55:04 EDT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

great men associated with the game, but you already mis-named the AFC
Central.  The Art Rooney Sr. division?  Come on!  The Central would have
to be the Paul Brown division.  Not only was Brown an owner and coach,
he was also an innovator in the game.  He also has links to two teams
in the Central: Cleveland and Cincinnati.  Rooney was a great football
owner, but Brown was more than just an owner.  So, I say the AFC Central
should be renamed the Paul Brown Division of the AFC.
     Speaking of realignment: I'm expecting one of the two expansion
teams to come into the Central.  This would give the divison a fifth
team.  I figure the other will go to that NFC divison w. only four, but
I can't remember which one it is.  Anyone out there know whether the
new market(probably the Carolina team) or old market(I'm betting on
St. Louis) will be team coming into the Central?  Thanks!
 
                                                 Jim
 
BENGALS!BENGALS!BENGALS!BENGALS!BENGALS!BENGALS!BENGALS!BENGALS!BENGALS!
From: v118jxyk@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Live Fast, Die Young!)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Joe Montana and other QB's
Date: 3 Sep 92 19:58:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Does everyone rememebr how Roger Starbaugh(sp) went out of the
game.....with a pass to his own lineman and 20 flags thrown in his face.  I
think that Joe Montana should retire going out as a well respected QB, rather
than be known as someone who kept wanting to play, even if he was physically
unable to do so.  This idea that he is going to come back and start again like
the years when he won the SB's is not very likely, and even if Joe Montana does
return, alot of people will remember this incident of him not allowing the
younger generation to play, and it will ruin what has otherwise been a very
good career.  I think that Montana is one of the best QB's of all time, but why
doesn't he just go out of the game gracefully instead of trying to make an old
timers comeback. 
	Also, to the guy who said that Montana has been playing for 20+ years.
If you think about that statement again, you will realize that he only played
for 10 years in the NFL.
	I hope that Montana will be remembered more for his great last minute
ability, and makin the impossible by getting some nice TD's to win crucial
games such as the SB against Cincinati, and the playoff game against Dallas.
If he is remembered for what he has been doing the last two years it will be a
shame, because of he has done in the past.
	Also, I don't think he is THE best Qb of all time, but I think he is
ONE of the best of all time.
	Remember, football has been going on before the 80's, and there were a
couple of really good QB's around before Montana such as Tarkenton.
	And yes, even though Tarkenton never won a SB, but lost a couple, that
doesn't take away from his ability as a QB, as well that Montana winning four
SB doesn't add to his ability as QB.  They are just one game, but what is more
important is how well someone does over a career, and every week, not just SB
sunday.
	The Hall-of-Fame seems to only induct people who have been on winning
SB teams, but there are so many people who have had great careers and not won a
SB.
From: dkl@cs.arizona.edu (David K. Lowenthal)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bengals info wanted
Date: 28 Aug 92 03:29:39 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

In article <1992Aug27.070031.4216@babbage.ece.uc.edu> saji@thor.ece.uc.edu (Sandeep  Aji) writes:
>   Any news on Klingler or Walter or Bruce Kowzerski (sp?) ???

Klingler said he is prepared to sit out the season.

>   There was also a rumor around that Bengals might trade Klingler 
>   for Tim Brown (Raiders). Any news on that ??
>

That is a joke.  Klingler would command much more value - he was the
sixth pick, and a QB.  He would go for a package deal (unless they
wait 6 months).

--dave

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: ric@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ricardo.g.irvin)
Subject: Re: Eric Dorsey
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 15:24:10 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.041633.3972@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> asagar@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ashish Sagar) writes:
>Hi:
>
>Can NY Giant fans shed some light on the current status and past
>performances of Eric Dorsey??(If there existed a player by that name).
>
>Or in general, did a player by this name play in the NFL in recent
>times??

Eric was drafted in 86 and a couple years later replaced retired
(and sure to be HOF) George martin at left DE. Eric has been an
average player over all, very good run stopper and below average
pass rusher. He has been bang up over the last few years.
He is the best "built" Defensive Line man at 290lbs-300lbs. I think
his weight attributes to is inability to rush the passer, but over
the off-season he lost about 20lbs and took up karate to increase
his speed (hands and feet) as well as flexability. He has been
very consestant at getting into the back field during the preseason,
when ask to pressure the QB.
He is being pushed at his position by 2 very good young players.
Eric should have a good 92 season barring injury.
>-Ashish
>*****  ***    *  *  ****   **** **** ****
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>
From: steves@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Steve Schunzel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Top 5 Defenses?
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:53:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1992Aug26.185352.22049
Organization: Western Washington University

paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger) writes:

>In article <BtLqvx.6F6@acsu.buffalo.edu> v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY) writes:
>>I'm curious about peoples view on the best DEEE's this year.
>>
>>I'd say:
>>1. Houston
>>2. Denver
>>3. Chicago
>>4. Washington
>>5. New Orleans
>>
>>Any thoughts?	Opinions?

>>
>   I don't care if Jerome Brown is gone, Philly's defense is still in the
>   top five. They could probably replace Chicago.

>   --salty
 
Where's Kansas City, I think they could also replace Chicago

Steve
From: stevel@gvlf9-g.gvl.unisys.com (Steve Loomis)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bucs coach
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:16:59 GMT
Organization: Paramax Systems Corporation, Paoli PA


	Sam Wyche...
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From: eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett)
Subject: Cowboys Sign Irvin
Organization: Abode Computer Services
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:45:48 GMT

Michael Irvin and the Dallas Cowboys agreed to a contract Thursday night.
Irvin will report to practice today (Friday) and will play in the Monday Night
Football game against the Redskins.

Eric

-- 
     Eric C. Bennett	 uucp: ..!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!wvus!abode!eric
     San Gabriel, Ca Internet: eric@abode.ttank.com

>>> HELP ME!! HELP ME!!! I am a COWBOY fan stuck in Ram and Raider Country <<<
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From: MCMASTER@LSTC2VM.stortek.com (Jim McMaster)
Subject: Re: trade rumors
Organization: StorageTek SW Engineering
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:44:18 GMT

In article <4103.370.uupcb@brent.uucp>
al.sorhaindo@brent.uucp (Al Sorhaindo) writes:
 
>It has been reported that the Falcons offered Andre Rison to the
>Chargers for Junior Seau. Bobby Beathard(the San Diego GM) just laughed.
>
>Dominating linebackers are hard to come by, and Bobby Beathard is no
>idiot, or he would not have had the success he did at Washington.
>
>Let's please not have anymore ridiculous trades suggested here like
>Noonan(a history of injuries) + Casillas(not much of a pass rush) for
>Seau.
>
>                                         Al
>---
> . DeLuxe. 1.21 #11688 . al.sorhaindo@execnet.com
>
Similar rumors are going around in Denver....that Rison was offered to
the Broncos for Mike Croel or Simon Fletcher plus a number one draft
pick.  I thought the Falcons' biggest need was in the defensive
secondary.  Why would they not try to get some help there if they
really want to deal Rison?
 
(Not that the Broncos couldn't use Rison, of course)
 
Jim McMaster
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From: deanb@pecan10.cray.com (Dean Barker)
Subject: This day in history
Originator: deanb@pecan10
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 27 Aug 92 08:46:07 CDT



8/27/21: The American Professional Football Association, which will change
its name to the National Football League in 1922, grants J.W. Clair of the
Acme Packing Company a franchise in Green Bay, Wisconsin. In 1922, league 
boss Joe Carr will boot the Packers out of the APFL for using players with
college eligibility, but Curly Lambeau, star quarterback and coach, will pay
the league $50 for the team. A public nonprofit organization will operate the 
franchise.

-- 
----------------------------------------------------------
Dean Barker				Cray Research, Inc.
deanb@cray.com				655F Lone Oak Drive
(612) 683-5414				Eagan, MN 55121
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From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: Steeler's Secondary...OUch
Organization: Clark University
Date: 26 AUG 92 18:51:37 GMT


In a previous article, dchou@husc8.harvard.edu (David Chou) wrote:
>Woodson is down and out for 4 weeks, as are two other players in the
>secondary.  Lake just signed, and will he regain his previous form of
>two years ago?  Just when I thought that a change of regime would
>help clear the air, this happens...Hopefully, the Steelers can weather
>the first few weeks...I think they have a shot in the AFC Central if
>they do...Anybody out there have any other Steeler's News?  
> 
>						-Dave
Well, they start the season at Houston (oh boy) but then have a string
of games in which they should be favored, and then they have a bye in 
the fifth or sixth week. They can't afford injuries, especially in the
secondary, but better now than later...

Bart
From: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Paul R Krueger)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: News on...
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:39:44 GMT
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Originator: paul@csd4.csd.uwm.edu


   Is Fuad Reveiz still kicking in Minnesota? Who will be starting in
   Dallas at REC? Will Kelvin Martin start?

   thanks,

   salty
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Football Plays
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 20:06:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug22.144638.11160@iplmail.orl.mmc.com> davec@iplmail.orl.mmc.com (Dave Crowder) writes:
>	Greetings, Football fans.  I have just begun to coach a Pop Warner
>Junior Midget's football team (ages 10-13).  This is my first time coaching
>football, I was hoping that other coaches on the network could send me copies
>of some of their favorite plays.  If you could include blocking assignments 
>and defenses that these plays are particular effective against.  I am expecially
>interested in passing plays as my quarterback as a good arm.  Thanks in adance.
>
>
>
>				Dave Crowder

Super!  I'm not a coach, but I'd like to hear how your season turns
out. Keep us posted as your season goes forward, ok? Good Luck! :-)
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