HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: more bashing
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:41:12

Sunil Gupta writes:
>huang@mwilliams.eche.ualberta.ca () writes:
>
>> Can those Quayle bashers find some place else to masturbate?  This
>> place is santified for the genuine fan of The Honourable J. Danforth
>> Quayle.  Please return to the original intent.  Thanks.
>
>Watch it buster! Otherwise we'll start alt.fan.brian-mulroney. Truly
>the intellectual peer of Our Man Dan.

And what's next?  alt.fan.king-carl-gustav?

*puts on Swede-proof undies*

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
From: liz@buckaroo.WPI.EDU (Mistress Elizabeth)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Debate Results, my opinion.
Date: 14 Oct 1992 18:27:15 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: buckaroo.wpi.edu

In article <92288.084226JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu> <JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>In article <92288.051255LDM102@psuvm.psu.edu>, The Ramblin' Man
><LDM102@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>>In article <1992Oct14.043504.5165@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
>>jks2x@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jason K. Schechner) says:
>>>
>>>"President Bush was flying to Malta in 1989 to meet with President
>>>Gorbachev, it was the first meeting between President Bush and President
>>>Gorbachev.  They'd known each other before..."
>>
>>   Is that a college e-mail address you have?  I know American education
>>is in bad shape, but even many people in foreign countries know that Bush
>>was a vice-president for eight years before being president.  It was
>>under President Ronald Reagan, who was elected in the 1980 and 1984 elections.
>>E-mail if you want more info...
>
>Surely you're not this stupid.  If it was the first meeting between
>President Bush and Gorbachev, they couldn't have "known each other
>before..."  They might have known *of* each other, however.

Maybe they did know each other, but this was their first meeting after
Bush became President.  You'll notice that Danny-boy said "it was the
first meeting between President Bush and President Gorbachev."
                      ^^^^^^^^^
Kind of like that tradition at a wedding where they introduce
the newly married couple.  "For the first time, in public, meet
Mr. and Mrs. Smith!"  Now, if you are at the wedding, you have
probably met one or both of them before, but this is the first 
time you are meeting them as a married couple.

				--liz
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: 01sybok@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: It's just a TV SHOW!
Date: 8 Oct 92 08:11:22 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Oct7.045342.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, zrepachol@cc.curtin.edu.au (Paul Repacholi) writes:
> In article <1992Sep23.152107.27614@u.washington.edu>, sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman) writes:
> ....
>> Role model?  The Cosby Show showed two well-to-do adults
>> (who we rarely saw actually working) surrounded by children
>> who never got into any serious trouble.  All problems between
>> parents and children were solved by serious and meaningful
>> discussions.  No problem took longer than thrity minutes
>> to fix.  This may have been entertainment, but it is not a
>> realistic "role model" any more than Ozzie and Harriet.
>> 
> 
> The only TV show that could lay claim to 'role model' is IMHO ...
> 
> "Hill Street Blues" They didn't even have to thank the veep for their awards. :-)
> 

No way man... Twin Peaks was the UNTIMATE role model. It was gritty reality
(well, it was in the first few shows), half the characters were nuts, and 
nobody could explain anything. *THAT'S* life in the Nineties.

I'd say Lynch/Frost in '92, but I'm not American, and therefore can't vote
in your election. Hey maybe I can get them to run for Parliament in
Canada!

Well, I have work to do...
Mike "An Audrey in every bed!"
From: tom.betz@execnet.com (tom betz)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: dan is a tool!
Date: 8 Oct 92 09:40:52 GMT
Reply-To: "tom betz" <tom.betz@execnet.com>
Distribution: alt
Organization: Executive Networks Information

Quoth Mike Best regarding EXTRA! DAN IS A GENIUS! on 10-07-92:

MB>This intellectual tirade has stunned me.  Let me just ask one question
MB>this guy is so dumb then how did he defeat the veteran Birch Bayhe (sp
MB>in Indiana?

With millions of dollars of NICPAC money, and a lying campaign full of 
negative ads, sleaze, and slams.  Bayh was a primary target for NICPAC 
that year, because he was considered a threat to run successfully for 
President down the line.  NICPAC and the fat cats who funded it were 
particularly interested in removing him from the Senate, so that he'd lose 
the platform he could use to launch a future Presidential run.

After his defeat, he retired and watched his son pick up the political 
career where he left off.


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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:42:26 EDT
From: <JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Debate Results, my opinion.
 <1992Oct14.024038.15119@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
 <1992Oct14.043504.5165@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
 <92288.051255LDM102@psuvm.psu.edu>

In article <92288.051255LDM102@psuvm.psu.edu>, The Ramblin' Man
<LDM102@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>In article <1992Oct14.043504.5165@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>,
>jks2x@holmes.acc.Virginia.EDU (Jason K. Schechner) says:
>>
>>"President Bush was flying to Malta in 1989 to meet with President
>>Gorbachev, it was the first meeting between President Bush and President
>>Gorbachev.  They'd known each other before..."
>
>   Is that a college e-mail address you have?  I know American education
>is in bad shape, but even many people in foreign countries know that Bush
>was a vice-president for eight years before being president.  It was
>under President Ronald Reagan, who was elected in the 1980 and 1984 elections.
>E-mail if you want more info...

Surely you're not this stupid.  If it was the first meeting between
President Bush and Gorbachev, they couldn't have "known each other
before..."  They might have known *of* each other, however.

Of course, I guess it just goes to show what a lap dog Vice President
Bush was if he hadn't met Gorbachev before he was President.

Hope this helps.

Jeff Luck               *These opinions are mine, but facts are facts*
CES Systems Office
Penn State University    "Whatever you guys want, I'm for."
JFL4@PSUVM.PSU.EDU           -Dan Quayle to Ohio Farmers, 1988
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu (Howard Black)
Subject: Re: New Quayle Quote (NY Times, 10/7/92)
Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 20:41:04 GMT
Organization: Eastern Illinois University

In article <1992Oct9.165855.17821@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> leo@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (leonard.oppenheimer) writes:
>
>I guess, then, that Clinton & Gore and all the others at the Democratic
>Convention who kept invoking family values are "republican non-entities" as
>well, IYNSHO.

    Perhaps there is a difference of opinion about what constitutes "family
values".  JDQ has a priceless quote on his interpretation; see the quote
file if you don't know it.  It is clear that "FV" is republiconese for
anything other than mom/pop/kid(s) arrangements (especially those single
mothers and pesky queers..).

>Perhaps "loony left" was a mistake on my part.  However, What I was saying,
>and now re-iterate, is that Quayle has stood up for the types of values that
>mainstream America has always, and continues to stand for, while his critics
>are busy using invective, cheap-shot sarcasm, and misquotation to obfuscate
>the issues.

    Another poster has answered this better than I could.  The moral
majority is neither, to quote a phrase.

>>    Amazing!  These JDQ-defenders tend to come around just often enough to
>>keep things lively.  Do you guys communicate with each other and take turns
>>coming to Our Boye's rescue?
>>
>
>An excellent retort.  Well reasoned, cogent and to the point.  

    You want serious discussion, go to a serious newsgroup.  There are
lots.  Most of us find it very difficult to be serious for long around
Danny.



-- 
   ******************************************************************
     Howard Black                             cfthb@ux1.cts.eiu.edu
     Department of Chemistry                  Eastern Illinois Univ.
From: kenr@cabezon.uucp (Ken Richards)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: New York Times on the VP debate
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:48:25 GMT
Organization: Logic Modeling Corporation of Beaverton Oregon

jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:


>Katie Couric(Today Show) called our boy shrill and obnoxious
>at times.  

>I myself found Dan's constant interruptions of Al Gore last 
>night apallingly rude.  And the lies!

The New York Times described the debate thusly:

"	With an evidently overcaffeinated Mr. Quayle bouncing
from rant to rant to his right and with Mr Gore relentlessly
reeling off speech-chunks to his left, Mr. Stockdale appeared
in something of the role of a bewildered grandfather who has
wandered down to the rec room in search of his slippers to
find himself in the middle of an impassioned teen-age debate
on the merits of Ice-T."


-- 
___________________________________________________________________________
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 Logic Modeling Corp   |  kenr@lmc.com  | torn apart by something as simple
                       |                | as wild dogs.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,talk.bizarre
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 13:03:08 EDT
From: <JFL4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Debate Results, my opinion.
 <1992Oct14.024038.15119@cbnewse.cb.att.com>
 <1992Oct14.043504.5165@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
 <1992Oct14.155300.25804@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
 <1992Oct14.140305.1411@msus1.msus.edu>

In article <1992Oct14.140305.1411@msus1.msus.edu>, john@msus1.msus.edu says:
>
>I thought I heard Al say that that STARK II fell over because Bush took James
>Baker out out the state dept. to rescue any hope of re-election.  Is there any
>truth to that?  I notice Dan squirmed a lot when Gore put that question to him
>asking if there was still an agreement.  Although Dan stammered and shifted
>the
>topic quickly, it seemed obvious to me it an uncomfortable topic for him.
>Anybody else notice that?

This morning on CNN they were talking about the "floundering" State Department
and the fact that Jim Baker has let the press know how unhappy he was about
being pulled-out of the State Department for the election.  Their comment
was that Baker is beginning to distance himself from a losing campaign.

Who knows? - Maybe Baker has decided a change in the Presidency wouldn't
be such a bad thing.

Hope this helps!

Jeff Luck               *The opinions are mine, but facts are facts*
CES Systems Office
Penn State University       "Whatever you guys want, I'm for."
JFL4@PSUVM.PSU.EDU              -Dan Quayle to Ohio Farmers, 1988
From: rdosser@UTKUX1.UTK.EDU (rdosser)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: GOP dream world
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:42:07 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee Computing Center

Our campus brown-shirts -- excuse me! -- Young Republicans got to meet
the "man of their dreams" Dan Quayle after the debate, according to our
campus newspaper. I suspect, however, they were at a different event
than the one I saw. 
UT College Republican Executive Director Kelvin Moxley:
"Dan Quayle manhandled Al Gore. I was particularly amazed that the
liberal media bias was so pervasive. They were still giving Gore the win
after he was shellacked by Dan Quayle. Dan Quayle answered every charge
and threw it back in the face of RoboPaul and left Gore a quaking,
quivering, smoking shell."
Mr. Moxley also is assistant editor for "The Tennessee Spectator" a
conservative newspaper whose basis in reality is equally tenuous and
fleeting, as witnessed by their recent front page article "How the
Democrats Lost the 1992 Election."
You gotta love these guys. Having them on the other side is the icing on
the cake.
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle

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From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: DAN QUAYLE DRUG SCANDAL COVER-UP?????
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 02:17:46 CDT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

nenglish@vax1.umkc.edu writes:

> Hi!
> I need to know:   Am I crazy??
> ;^)
>
> Fri. night, 10/09/92, 7pm, on CNN news, 20 min. Lead Story:
>
> DAN QUAYLE DRUG SCANDAL COVER-UP
>
> Complete story w/ tapes, transcripts, and witness;
> Tapes and evidence pointed straight up to the Justice Dept. and James Baker;
> Tapes were gotten by CNN thru the Freedom of Information Act.
>
> Am *I* the only person who saw this story??
> I have not heard a PEEP about it since it aired!
>
> Has anyone seen this or heard anything about besides ME??
>
> Nicole....
>

Look at CNN's daily tracking polls.  When you see them go below a 10% lead for
Clinton, you'll hear about these things in depth.  Until then, it's 'not
presidential' for them to bash Bush, much less Our Boy.




|Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
|Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087|
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
From: jamaass@bluemoon.rn.com (Jeffrey A. Maass)
Subject: Re: Vice Shrub Won.
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 16:22:15 EDT

mvp@netcom.com (Mike Van Pelt) writes:

> In article <1992Oct14.010619.14014@news.columbia.edu> egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia
> >Gore was wooden,
> 
> Gore came off as 100% pure plastic when he was reciting his prepared
> speeches.  He talked like a human being when he was speaking off the
> cuff, but much of the time, he looked, moved, and sounded exactly like
> one of those AudioAnimaTronic things at Disneyland.
> 

Mike, that's the problem with knowing the facts: it's easy to 
look plastic. It's only when you have to sweat to think of a 
way to change the subject or to make up a lie ("page 304, look
it up!") that many will judge you "human".

You think Danny "thunk up" his abortion response on the spot? Hardly.

Danny came off as a petulant, whiney kid. He spouted his attacks
without regard to what question was at hand: "...just repeat these
lines, Danny, whenever he asks you a question with a word in it
that you don't recognize..."   "Yes, Mr. Baker, sir. Can I go 
golfing if I get it right?"


Jeff Maass                   Amateur Radio: K8ND (@ W8CQK)
NW of Columbus Ohio                Netmail: jamaass@bluemoon.uucp

GILLETTE'S PRINCIPLE:
  "If you want to make people angry, lie. If you want to make
   them absolutely livid with rage, tell the truth."
From: afc@gnv.ifas.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Undercurrent of Panic
Date: 9 Oct 92 13:46:33 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.143328.26592@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, pat@sphinx.phys.Virginia.EDU (pat walsh) writes:
> Cindy Kandolf writes:
> 
>>Daniel A Ashlock writes:
>>>   Did you see the nitwit who is trying to make something of
>                      ^^^^^^
>>>Clinton's student trip to Moscow?  Not on UseNet, but out in
>>>what we whimsically refer to as reality?
> 
> Apparently, as of yesterday, the nitwit to whom you refer goes by the name
> George Herbert Walker Bush.

The same guy who lived for years in Communist China and now wants to 
give them Most Favored Nation Status for massacring unarmed civilians
in Tienanmen squarre?  The same guy who traveled to Soviet Georgia just
before the Soviet Union broke up and advised them to submit to central
rule?  He is obviously a mole planted by the International Communist
Conspiracy.  Better have the CIA check this out.

A. F. Cockburn

Sorry to x-post this to a.f.d-q, but it is stupid enough to qualify.

> - Patrick Walsh
>   University of Virginia Department of Physics
>   pw@virginia.bitnet, pw@virginia.edu, pat@gomez.phys.virginia.edu
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: mycroft@dorsai.com (Keith Kushner)
Subject: Re: A Rush By Any Other Name
Organization: The Dorsai Embassy +1.718.729.5018
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 20:50:27 GMT

jberger@novell.com (John Berger) writes:
: In article <1992Oct7.000025.21452@u.washington.edu> sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman) writes:
: >Subject: A Rush By Any Other Name
: >>didn't it used to be just "Rush Slimeball", or do you all just hold a
: >>name-calling contest every so often?
: >Good Idea!
: >
: >Choose one from Column A, one from Column B:
: >
: >Column A
: >--------
: >Rush
: >Retch
: >Rust
: >Rash
: >
: >Column B
: >--------
: >Lymphnode
: >Limpbone
: >Lameboy
: >Lintbarf
: >
: >These are all I can remember now.  More suggestions welcomed;
: >nay, demanded!
: >
: How about:
: Column B
: Limburger
: 
: At first, he seems just as cheesy as the rest of them, but if you swallow 
: it, nobody can stand to be around you!

Or maybe "Lash Rambo" as per the new WKRP In Cincinatti...
From: elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Edward J. Branley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Vice Shrub Won.
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:00:16 GMT
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

egl1@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Elizabeth G. Levy) writes:

> In article <H9gNsB5w165w@mintir.new-orleans.la.us> elendil@mintir.new-orleans
> >
> >I don't think he took them lying down, but there's only so much you can do w
> >Dano lies as blatantly as he did.  He said he didn't do it, and left it to t
> >CNN 'Truth Squad' to do the rest.  Frankly, it was Gore that had a bit of th
> >deer-in-the-headlights last night.  It's one thing to zing someone with a
> >one-liner, or come up with an analytical twist that gives you an advantage,
> >they just didn't prep Gore for outright lying.
>
> I just worry about leaving it to the Truth Squad to clean up.  Maybe
> I'm a control freak, but I'd like to do my own rebuttals, and on the
> spot, so the lies the Vice Shrub spread won't have a chance to, uh,
> stain the carpet.  Also, Truth Squad reports tend to wind up in the
> back pages: they don't make headlines quite as well (but then, I
> don't look at the TV quite as much, and certainly not CNN because I
> lack cable :-)  These things get relegated to Not-The-Front-Pages,
> and don't receive the attention like they should.  Just my feeling.
>
> And I agree, Gore wasn't prepped for the stream of sludge from that
> side of the stage.

Normally you'd see the Truth Squad on the back pages, but CNN ran some of those
really nice 'Democracy in America' spots, and it seemed that they did it all
day yesterday.  Nice job of rebuttal, around the clock.



|Edward J. Branley         elendil@mintir.new-orleans.la.us|
|Seashell Software, Metairie, LA            +1-504-455-5087|
From: peri@cco.caltech.edu (Michal Leah Peri)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Vice Shrub Won.
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:39:42 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: sandman.caltech.edu

jdahl@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Jared Dahl) writes:

>|> > >BTW, I wouldn't sweat the election.  Even His Rushness conceded today.
>|> Well, there's not much to it.  Uncle Rush admitted there is little hope, and
>|> that we were in for four years of unchecked liberalism.
>And he's happier than hell about it.

I guess he figures it's job security -- preaching to the disaffected.

							--  Michal
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: ralph@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (ralph.winslow)
Subject: Re: Constitutional Questions, and liberalisms....
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:35:51 GMT
Followup-To: /dev/null

In article <Bw0M7E.CG@ocsmd.ocs.com> mark@ocsmd.ocs.com (Mark Wilson) writes:
>Michal Leah Peri (peri@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:
>:>>I'm not on drugs, and it's not that late in the night.  Plus, I know I'm not
>: >>stupid because I made it through graduate school with honors.
   Yeah, and "I am not a crook"
>: 
>: You spent N of the best years of your life in self inflicted poverty
>: and degradation, and you claim it proves your *not* stupid??!
>                                           ^^^^
>*sigh*
>Well, I AM reading this in alt.fan.dan-quayle... maybe this is where Dan
>got the extra "e"....
>--
    Now where do you suppose that apostrophe got off to?  Has Raunch Lameboy
    been using them for something?  (I haven't been able to tune in yet,
    could some kind soul post the schedule?)
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Mark Wilson, Online Computer Systems.  1-800-922-9204 or 1-301-601-2215
>This file .disclaims everything signed with my .signature, I .mean it!
>-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Ralph
From: hatton@socrates.ucsf.edu (Tom Hatton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Re: Quayle Not Fazed!
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:34:24 GMT
Organization: UCSF Computer Graphics Lab

sieferme@milton.u.washington.edu (Eric Sieferman) writes:

>What do you suppose Our Boy is like when he IS emotionally fazed?

Just go back and look at his glazed expression after the Bentsen 
retort to Dan's attempt to preen in the last debate.
 
Then there was the slight pout when he told Bentsen that it was
uncalled for. I assumed he meant his own original comparison :-)
but apparently he was stung by the reply.

Tom
From: leisti@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Teemu Leisti)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.dan-quayle
Subject: Separated at birth?
Date: 13 Oct 92 10:52:09 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki


In the latest issue of the Economist (Oct. 10, 1992), in the
International section, there's a story about the state of democracy in 
Kuwait ("Arabia's slow pressure cooker").  It has the following:

"The Sabah family, which has ruled the emirate since the 18th century,
is unlikely to give up anything of importance.  The crown prince,
Sheikh Saad, is also prime minister.  He is the butt of countless jokes
(faced with a queue of petitioners, it is said, he dismisses all but the
last on the ground that he will forget what the rest have to say), but
nobody expects him to stand down."

Does this remind anyone of someone you know?  (-:


--  Teemu Leisti  /  U. of Helsinki, Finland  /  leisti@cc.helsinki.fi

             Zippy the Pinhead Clown for President!
                     "Am I elected yet?"
-- 
--  Teemu Leisti  /  U. of Helsinki, Finland  /  leisti@cc.helsinki.fi

             Zippy the Pinhead Clown for President!
                     "Am I elected yet?"