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From: bootsma@fys.ruu.nl (Timo Bootsma)
Subject: Rumania round 14
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:23:25 GMT

Rumania, results of round 14, nov. 21th, 22th:

fc selena bacau		-politehnica timisoara        1-0
electroputere craiova   -univeristatea craiova        1-0
otelul galati           -farul constanta              5-0
fc ploiesti             -inter sibiu                  3-0
progresul               -sportul studentesc           1-2
rapid                   -fc brasov                    2-0
csm resita              -dinamo	                      1-2
steaua                  -gloria bistrita              2-1
universitatea cluj      -dacia unirea braila          1-0

steaua	        14 25    inter sibiu           14 13
dinamo          14 23    fc ploiesti           14 11
rapid           14 18    politehnica timisoara 14 11
univ. craiova   14 17    dacia unirea braila   14 10
gloria bistrita 14 17    fc brasov             14 10
univ. cluj      14 17    farul constanta       14  9
electroputere   14 17    progresul             14  9
otelul galati   14 16    selena bacau          14  9
sportul stud.   14 14    csm resita            14  6   

timo.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: 074SPOCK@Witsvma.wits.ac.za
Subject: Re: Man Utd vs Everton
Organization: Wits University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 12:01:54 RSA

In article <Uf12IWW00iUxQ6B1tf@andrew.cmu.edu>
Andy Yin Meau <am5q+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
 
>
>
>Deos anyone know when Manchester United are playing Everton, or did they
>play each other already?
>
>Thanks,
>Andy
 
Both rounds have been played.
 
1st round  :  Man Utd 0 Everton 3
2nd round  :  Everton 0 Man Utd 2
 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: paull@plasma.co.uk (Paul Lee)
Subject: Re: Just laughing at England
Reply-To: paull@plasma.co.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:35:45 GMT

In article CKC@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk, dam@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (David Morning) writes:
>caar18@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>
>
>[About BBC sports reporting and English dominance]
>
>>I'm quite surprised that you've had that much `rammed down your 
>>throat', as SportsNightis almost always replaced by SportsScene 
>>in Scotland, and Match Of The Day is replaced by SportsScene 
>>Match Of The Day.
>
>Really? Did you see Sportsnight last Wednesday? I inadvertantly left my video
>recorder running after taping Michael Palin's Pole to Pole and taped all of
>Sportsnight. I watched it at the week end out of curiosity and perhaps thinking
>I had been a little harsh on the BBC. Here's what it contained:-
>
>Brian Clough, manager of the *English* team Notts Forest - long interview with.
>Rugby - Preview of *England* vs South Africa.
>Basketball - *England* vs Russia
>Football - *English* Premier League action
>
>Oh, we did get the Scottish results - thank you very much BBC - it took about
>15 seconds to read them out.
>

There is one easy solution here - Go and watch the game.

My team, Sheffield Wednesday are never on the telly (subject of an earlier thread)
('cos BBC are interested in Liverpool, Man U, Leeds, etc)
And who want's to pay Sky for matches when you can go to the match of your choosing?

You may have noticed that good old BBC didn't show the Sheffield Derby match on TV,
even in their revue of the England squad, even though Chris Woods and Carlton Palmer
are in the side, and David Hirst and Brian Deane are potentials, and Chris-Bart 
Williams is an England U-21 !!!!!
My own solution is that I make the 400 mile round trip to *** SEE *** my team
rather than moaning that it's not on telly.
If Scottish people want to moan about no Scottish football on TV, then they should
moan to the BBC.
In Wales they have their own sports program showing Rubgy and the like. Why doesn't
Scottish TV do the same???

---


		Cheers,
			Paul Lee (Hoppy)


			Meiko Scientific Ltd.

			Email: paull@meiko.com

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: operator@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Neil Webb news
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:39:51 GMT

In article <MNEWS.721646221.23855@gate.demon.co.uk>, I.T.Marsh@man0507.wins.icl.co.uk (I.T.Marsh) writes:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
>  Neil Webb is on the move. Man Utd and Nottm Forest have agreed a 
>  fee believed to be in the region of #750,000. Half the price Ma
>  Utd payed for him when they bought him from Forest. Yesterday Webb 
>  and Forest agreed personal terms, so I believe it is simply a case 
>  of signing on the dotted line now.
> 
   The actual fee is  Stp 800,000


Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 10:41:31 -0500 
From: Saverio Cittadini <sc4n+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Need a good team name for a co-rec soccer team

In article <1992Nov23.065405.3532@src.honeywell.com>
gcary@src.honeywell.com (Greg Cary) writes:

>Our first team name was "We Need A Goalie", but now we have a good goalie
>so we need another (and better) team name for the next session.

What about "We Need A Team Name" ?   :-)   :-)

                                                 Saverio

e-mail: CITTADINI@SIVAX.CINECA.IT
"The sky is light-blue, since God is a Napoli fan"
V I N C I   P E R   N O I   M A G I C O   N A P O L I  !!!
From: henrique@white.dfci.harvard.edu (Henrique M. Silva)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re:  Palmeiras - Corinthians  Today
Date: 19 Nov 1992 08:50:49 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

>
>     E ai rapaziada.   *
>     O VERDAO , mas do geito que o Palmeiras esta 
                        ^^^^^ 

Isso e' tipico da inteligencia dos torcedores do "VERDAO"?

obrigado, e ate a proxima.>

>     PALMEIRAS CAMPEAO   !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>

   Geitosamente sim


>Henrique Silva ( Sofrendo )


Paulo Kerber
PS: tu tem certeza que tu no e' torcedor da Portuguesa?
    ^^                 ^^ ^^ 

    Porra Paulo, nao fala dos outros se voce "tu" nao consegues escrever
Portugues correto tambem.

    VERDAO NA CABE@A !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Henrique "DESAJGEITADO" Silva
From: u1051652@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: 2nd Division Internationals
Date: 18 Nov 92 08:28:13 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

Interesting Question:

How many countries have had players in the 2nd division capped at 
international level (While they were playing in the second division) ?
And which players were they (and what clubs were they playing for at
the time) ?
The only example I can think of would be Steve Bull for England.
(Could someone mail me his Wolves stats ? A friend of mine in England
said he was "bloody smashin'").

Thanks.

              ===================================
             || FRANCESCO ANTONIO NESCI         ||
             || u1051652@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au ||
              ===================================
From: mcsbc2gw@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: RANGERS ARE ****!
Date: 20 Nov 92 11:10:58 GMT
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

Any Dundee United supporters out there?
If so e-mail me at mcsbc2gw@dct.co.uk

This has been a welcome message

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris)
Subject: Re: In article Muu@hsi.com, mallon@hsi.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company, Alameda CA 94501
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:54:51 GMT

In article <1el3alINN8oo@sunaus.Aus.Sun.COM> peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM writes:
>In article E0L@apollo.hp.com, moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com (Robert Moynihan) writes:
>In article <1ehrtkINNqht@sunaus.Aus.Sun.COM> peterm@pinhigh.Aus.Sun.COM writes:
>>
>>While on this subject of rule changes, I read somewhere recently where your USSF, are proposing
>>rules changes for the WC '94. This is an example of what I mean.!!
>>
>>I do hope Mr Havalange and Mr. Blatter and co, tell your USSF what they can do with their
>>proposed rule changes - i.e. put them where the sun don't shine.!!!
>>
>>Anyway, I wish you well in your endeavours to raise the publicity of Soccer in the US, but
>>Please, leave the rules alone.!!!!!
>> 
>
>This is unadulterated nonsense.  The USSF have made no such 
>suggestions.  There are a lot of bigoted people around the world
>that have their noses out of joint because the US is hosting WC
>'94, so they will make up all sorts of stories to make us look bad.
>

I wouldn't go so fast in making such assertions, because suggestions
such as playing four quarters _were_ made (either by the USSF or the
US Organizing Committee) in the period immediately after the '90 World
Cup. However, they were quickly dropped when it became clear that such
drastic mucking with the rules wasn't going to fly. 

--
Colin Morris    Ingres, an ASK Group company     cmorris@ws2s.ingres.com

"It's never too late to hate Luton Town" -- Danny Baker
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: vlad@erg.sri.com (vlad)
Subject: Re: Russians s**t on Liverpool
Organization: SRI International, Menlo Park, CA
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 00:24:49 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.224013.14307@mintaka.lcs.mit.edu> astro@silver.lcs.mit.edu (Phillip Vyp'ev-Zakusim) writes:
>>Spartak won the first game in Moscow 4-2!!!!
>>
>>
>>SPARTAK - CHAMPION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>not quite... Dinamo Kiev can kick their butts anytime.  Too bad all their best players are overseas, plus they aren't playing in the same league.
>

Overseas? I thought all of them are in Europe. europe is overseas for us
Americans but for Ukrainians it is not.

In any case, what you seem to be saying is that a lot of former Dynamo
players are playing in foreign leagues. True. But the operating word here
is FORMER. Theese players have nothing to do with dynamo anymore. Moreover,
most of Dynamo players were stolen by Dynamo from other clubs. So, Dynamo
has no claims on htese FORMER players. 

But, yes, in the good old times Dynamo Kiev was a pleasure to watch and
root for.

Vlad

Employer disagrees


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From: pcxmrp@unicorn.nott.ac.uk (M.Powell)
Subject: Re: the vikings are coming (again ?)
Keywords: more norwegains going abroad.
Organization: Cripps Computing Centre, University of Nottingham
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 16:09:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.174229.20255@ugle.unit.no> halvard@trd.sdata.no (Halvard Halvorsen) writes:
>
>well - with kaare flying over to manchester yesterday the current 
>list of new players (maybe) going proffesional looks something like this :
>
>Stig Inge Bjornebye - sold to Liverpool (national team)
>Alf Inge H}land - sold to Nottingham Forest (U21 national)
>Frank Strandli - sold to Leeds United (U21/national team)
>
>Roger Nilsen - plays for 1FC Koln in Germany - rented from Viking Stavanger;
>               made "Team of the Week" in german papers after is his first match !
>               (there was a picture of him and Cobi Jones - with text something
>                like "Cobi Jones - player in 1FC Koln" - is this correct or is
>                Cobi still on trial ??) (Roger is of course on the national team)
>
>Egil Ulfstein - has been training with Sheffield United, no contract yet (U21 int)
>Kaare Ingebrigtsen - training this week with Man City (national team)
>Tore Andre Dahlum - has been training with Man United. no contract offered yet.
>Bjorn Otto Sundgot - has been training with Oldam. Oldham wants him - but must be
>              prepared to pay more than the 150 000 GBP offered to his current
>              club Molde. U21 national team.
>
>Jostein Flo  - wanted by Coventry ??
>
>OK 3 for sure, 1 on rental and 5 not so sure new proffesionals. 
>so the future looks good for both the 'A-team' and our U21's.
>
>(we also have the likes of Thorstvedt (Tottenham), Bratseth (Werder Bremen),
>Halle (Oldham), Rekdal (Lierse - the man who scored at Wembley), Jakobsen
>(Young Boys), Fjoertoft (Rapid Wien) abroad (and even some more ...)
>- so despite winter soon coming 
>- we just _might_ have a very fit national team next spring :-) )
> 
>
>-- 
>
>    0  	   halvard halvorsen 
>  \/|/\    email  	: halvard@trd.sdata.no
>    |      
>   / \/\   scandinavian whites
> \/ ___________________________________________________________________
>
>
>
>
What about Pal Lydersen, who occasionally gets out of the reserves to play for Arsenal, when Dixon is injured?
 
		Matt

	"How many Arsenal players does it take to screw in a lightbulb?"
		"The back four. OFFSIDE!"

PS: Before anyone complains I am a Gooner myself.
From: christos@cco.caltech.edu (Christos S. Christoforou)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: some scottish/english results
Date: 21 Nov 1992 17:09:22 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

hearts 1, rangers 1 (mccoist scored first for rangers)
celtic 3, falkirk 2
dundee 1, dundee utd 3
thistle 0, aberdeen 2   game abandoned at the 57' due to snow

south of the border:

leeds 3, arsenal 0
coventry 2, man. city 3
everton 0, chelsea 1
man. utd 3, oldham 0
Palace 1, Forest 1
Norwich 2, Sheff. Utd 1
M'boro 2, Wimbledon 0
Sheff. Wed. 1, Ipswich 1


christos
From: PKARLIOT%knox.bitnet@UICVM.UIC.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Predictions
Date: 19 Nov 1992 03:24:01 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

      Hmmm...Very interesting stuff you got there Gerry.
      However, I say that Celtic will win only by a modest 2-0, Aberdeen will
win 2-1, Rangers will draw 1-1 and Dundee will lose to Dundee United 1-0.
      But I don't care, I hope Aberdeen wins!
      G O  A B E R D E E N
                                                    Panos Karliotis
                                                    The only(?)Aberdeen fan in
                                                    the list
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From: passier@bmerh9a1.BNR.CA (Chris Passier)
Subject: Re: "Fact & Fiction about US soccer"-suggestions?
Reply-To: passier@bmerh9a1.BNR.CA (Chris Passier)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 14:40:18 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.163745.8897@iscsvax.uni.edu>,
eswaran3372@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
|>In article <1992Nov20.171514.21265@bmers145.bnr.ca>,
passier@bmerh9a1.BNR.CA (Chris Passier) writes:
|>>  I have to say, the last WC was ruined a bit for me by the number of teams
|>>  which played a game VERY conservatively, because the 50-50 odds of
|>>  the tie-breaking  shoot out was better than they could hope for if they
|>>  actually tried to go for the win during regulation. Argentina, in
particular,
|>>  comes to mind. I understand that FIFA has made a rule that keepers cannot
|>>  handle a ball which has been "intentionally" passed to them from a team
|>>  mate. But has anything else been done to make sure teams don't play for
|>>  a tie? Are there any plans in the works to elliminate the shoot out?
|>>  I realize TV coverage plays a big part in forcing the games to be
played in
|>>  a relatively deterministic amount of time, but that doesn't seem to have
|>>  affected baseball.
|>
|> 
|>
|> I beg to disagree with this argument. It is not the final outcome
|>of any game that makes the sport in question less/more attractive
|>than the rest. In fact, most of us enjoy games which end something
|>like 3-3 (i.e., a draw). The point is how well that game was played.
|>Another way to look at the same issue is this: A soccer game between
|>a great team and a relatively weak team may very well end up in a
|>tennis score. Does this  necessarily mean the game was really enjoyable?
|>Personally, I enjoy games between teams of equal caliber best eventhough
|>the result would, quite likely, be a draw. (Anyway, your example is well
|>taken)
|>

 You missed my point entirely. I have nothing against tie games, or even
 low scoring games. I do, however, dislike games in which a team or teams
 purposely play for a tie in order to _take their chances_ in a shoot out.

|>To travel is better than to arrive.

 Without a destination, one can go in circles.

|>
|>Sasi M. Eswaran
|>423 G Street, HSC
|>Cedar Falls, IA 50613              ESWARAN3372@ISCSVAX.UNI.EDU
                               
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From: antonio@arezzo.oas.olivetti.com (Antonio Maiuolo)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Inter - Stuttgart friendly
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:36:54 GMT
Reply-To: antonio@arezzo.oas.olivetti.com (Antonio Maiuolo)
Organization: Olivetti Research California

In article <52lcwiw@Unify.Com>, veit@Unify.com (Veit Irtenkauf) writes:
> Does anyone know anything about the friendly game between Inter and
> Stuttgart (I think part of the Sammer deal)?  I heard the score was
> 5-0 for Stuttgart.  This would be unbelievable.  Did Inter send its
> second team?
> 

No, no, ... they had their BEST team there, ah, ah, ah :-) :-) :-) :-)

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From: operator@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: USA 94
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 05:02:00 GMT

In article <BxnBtu.ArJ@ccu.umanitoba.ca>, tvorst@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Tommy Che Vorst) writes:
> Hello.  The Yahoo here. I just want to make the point that I have nothing
> against the USA.  I just can't understand why in a country where baseball
  haven't you heard of "MONEY" man!
> is of religious importance and football is seen as a distraction for high
> school students (told to me by several football fanatics in the USA) and
> gets no respect for being a real sport (unlike baseball, which is a game
  I agree totally 
> like golf - don't get me wrong, I love it, but it's still a game), people
> are trying to host the WCup.  My sources are European radio, television
> and newspapers of the last three years.  This is not just something from
> my imagination - only last week some stadium operator said that should
> FIFA want to use his stadium, they had better get used to playing on turf:
> 
> Stupid? - yes
  definitley not
> Uninformed? - sure
  possibly
> Greedy, money-grubbing scum? - no doubt
  you hit the nail on the head mate!
> But nevertheless true.
> 
> No, I do not think Canada can do any better.
  neither do I
> No, I am not bitter about Atlanta in '96 - Toronto certainly didn't
  why do you think the USA got 2 olympics out of 4, Atlanta was a winner from 
  the word go, I wonder who would have got it if Ted CNN Turner was not around.
> challenge, and is too self-absorbed already.
> 
> I just love the sport, and would rather never see an important game played
> where it is undervalued than see the sport diluted or changed because
> someone who doesn't care about it says it has to be. 
  I can't agree with you more 
> 
> I'll be in the US in '94 because I love football, and love watching it. 
> And I hope it's a huge success. (and I hope Holland finally wins)  In
> 1998, I'll be in France, and I hope you'll all be in both countries, too.
> 
> +-------------------------------------------------------------------------+
>   Tommy ( Yogi )                              Dept. of English, UofM
>                 (the REAL UofM - nyaaaah Vid! (Minn.)) 
>                      email:  tvorst@ccu.umanitoba.ca  
>             ....residences in Canada, France, and Holland.
>                        "YAAH! DEATH TO OATMEAL!"
>                    Remember: it's just my opinion.
>  +------------------------------------------------------------------------+ 
> 
> 
>  
>
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: OTHER THINK I'M SHIT BUT NOT MY HERO
Date: 18 Nov 92 00:28:10 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Nov17.104832.13318@phillip.edu.au>, t8914229@phillip.edu.au writes:
> yesterday (16/11), the greatest thing happened to me:  MY HERO - THE GREAT
> MAN HIMSELF - GRAEME SOUNESS actually wrote to me and signed it!!!!!  he
> touched the piece of paper.  that made my year.  now, an autographed photo
> of him would really make my life!!!!!  me, a virtual unknown, nothing, shit,
> etc. and MY HERO would take the time to write to me.  you can't get better
> than that!


We need to know, what did your BELOVED say ?  Was it to thank you for
your undying support during this season's slump, to thank you  for
letting the world know how gorgeuos he is (or isn;t, more likely) or
simply to ask that the next time he's down under can he pop by for a 
quickie................

My brother had a photo taken with the BELOVED but it was quickly removed
from the mantlepiece in April 1991 for some apparent reason and has never
been seen since.  Mysterious.


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