From: cobra@ziggys.cts.com 619/262-6384 (Ron Lee)
Newsgroups: rec.martial-arts
Subject: Re: some questions
Date: 19 Nov 92 03:52:32 GMT
Organization: Ziggy's Den Of Iniquity, East of East SD CA

ph2sct@sdcc14.ucsd.edu (Dzu Nguyen) writes:

} 
}  hi again...i have some more questions...
} 
} 1) does anyone use dynamic tension as part of their training ? if so
} is it useful to you and what is a good way to get startes on it?
} should i even try dynamic tension?
} 
} 2) also...i have these 2 friends that study two completely different
} styles. one studies aikido with me and another studies san soo kung
} foo (sp?). my problem is that they argue constantly about their
} respective styles..each commenting on the other's style as either
} somewhat ineffective or lacking in good technique. also they both
} have the same opinions of other arts namely they see their own art
} as the best. i am not putting down either style (i study aikido
} in additions to other arts) but it has gotten to the point where
} they cannot talk to each other about martial arts without quarrelling.
} Also, it is impossible for them NOT to talk about their respective
} arts since their martial arts training gives their entire life
} meaning. HELP!
} 
} also: my aikido friend considers san soo to be brutal and lacking in
} philosophical guidelines whereas my san soo friends considers all
} other martial arts, esp. aikido to be surrounded by useless
} traditional bullsh*t that would be useless in a fight therefore not
} worth learning.  my aikido friend has watched several san soo
} classes and my san soo friend has taken several aikido classes
} before joining san soo.
} 
} i would appreciate it if somebody could help me out! this problem is
} not going to escalate but it isn't helping their friendship out and
} it is impossible to talk with them (i've tried many times).
} 
} thanks again.
} 
} dzu
} 


Your aikido friend is getting what he is looking for.
Your San Soo Kung Fu friend is getting what he is looking for.
 (BTW I met a girl who was in San Soo a while back--we discussed 
philosophy all night)

Much depends on what the student wants to learn; much depends on how well
an instructor can cater to the students' needs.

Japanese folk quote:  For a cracked pot, there will be a chipped lid
Western cliche':  Birds of a feather flock together

  These persons will find each other, moving on to other teachers until 
they find what they need--or being trained in the teacher's ways if they 
don't really know what they're looking for (does Bono Vox really 
know....?)

   My instructor would say that they are both at early (immature?) stages 
of their development so that they are extremely loyal to the point of 
discounting the good points and highlighting the bad points of other 
styles.  I tend to agree.

        I suspect there is no way for you to reconcile them..they will 
simply have to grow tired of their own bickering or avoid each other (to 
your chagrin, I suspect).

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How long have the martial arts been around?
Centuries?  Decades in some cases, though Hybrids pop up with new names 
(though they are not PURE arts, so can't be considered in this argument)

If there really was a single "best way" for all fighting, it would have 
overborne the others long ago--there would be one single Hand-to-Hand
fighting system.  So many have lasted because they each apply to certain 
circumstances; certain needs while failing to cover other problems.  Even 
the hybrids are simply combinations of "the best" of different styles to 
(hopefully) cover the most varieties of posible situations.

*sigh*
I'm rambling, I'll stop now.


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