HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: lee@ceg.uiuc.edu (Chris Lee)
Subject: shutdown/update frustration on 700s
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 19:57:20 GMT
Keywords: screen seems to get screwed...

Sorry for taking up bandwidth on this, but I have to let
out this frustration somehow....

This is on a hp9000/720, HPUX8.07 (delivered last week --
8/20).

1. I don't know why the shutdown program sometimes does not seem 
   to give me a "visible" window to work with.  When I type
      %  /etc/shutdown 
   to get into single user mode to update the system, MOST of the 
   time, after sending out the messages, I will get the following
   sequence:  The screen blinks, and we seen the VUE login window,
   there is a blip, and we see some of the left-over text
   on the console screen, and then it goes BLANK!  I can type stuff
   and it will do something (I'm sure of this since I can get
   disk activity by typing some odds and ends).  The only way
   to get a visible screen is to type (blindly) 
      %   /etc/shutdown -r -y 0
   This will reboot the machine, and in the process show me all
   the garbage I typed blindly.

   Unfortunately, this isn't ALWAYS reproducible.  SOMETIMES, it
   works, and gives me a visible screen to type in.

2. Running UPDATE on the console screen, the keys don't seem to
   do what they advertise...
   The update window shows up, and the first time I type something
   (arrow keys, return, Function key), there is just a blip and
   very little else.  Well, the Return key seems to consistently
   display the prompt under the update screen which needs to be 
   removed by ctrl-l.  Also, when update prints warning messages
   and says "press space to continue", pressing space does not do 
   anything.  It wants a return or something more like that.


Has anyone else had such problems, or am I the only one?


One frustrated root user.
-- 
Chris Lee
University of Illinois Urbana
lee@ceg.uiuc.edu
(217)244-2903
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: alek@spatial.com (Alek O. Komarnitsky)
Subject: Re: CC (8.07) does not like math.h and stdlib.h together
Keywords: CC
Organization: Spatial Technology, Inc. (Boulder, Colorado)
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 04:35:23 GMT

In article <1992Aug28.195429.22677@news.mentorg.com> gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle) writes:
>
>In article <5255@krafla.rhi.hi.is>, jond@rhi.hi.is (Jon Danielsson) writes:
>|> I have c++ programs which include math.h and stdlib.h, which work
>|> fine with the header files I got with the 8.05 system.  When I got the
>|> upgrate to 8.07 I find that I cannot compile such programs because
>|> (apparently) there are inline definitions of the abs function in 
>|> both files.  
>
><stuff deleted>
>
>Maybe I should just post the answer to this monthly, or something.
>This is a bug in 8.07; it has been fixed at 9.0. Onsite here we
>edited math.h to get rid of the extra declaration.
>
>- Greg
>-- 
>Greg Cagle                                                         (503)685-1570
>Mentor Graphics Corporation                               greg_cagle@mentorg.com
>Platform Technology Division

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Comp.sys.hp FAQ [was: CC (8.07) does not like math.h and stdlib.h together]
Summary: 
Expires: 
Followup-To: 
Distribution: 
Organization: Spatial Technology, Inc. (Boulder, Colorado)
Keywords: CC

In article <1992Aug28.195429.22677@news.mentorg.com> gcagle@dracula.mentorg.com (Greg Cagle) writes:
>
>In article <5255@krafla.rhi.hi.is>, jond@rhi.hi.is (Jon Danielsson) writes:
>|> I have c++ programs which include math.h and stdlib.h, which work
>|> fine with the header files I got with the 8.05 system.  When I got the
>|> upgrate to 8.07 I find that I cannot compile such programs because
>|> (apparently) there are inline definitions of the abs function in 
>|> both files.  
>
><stuff deleted>
>
>Maybe I should just post the answer to this monthly, or something.
>This is a bug in 8.07; it has been fixed at 9.0. Onsite here we
>edited math.h to get rid of the extra declaration.

Does anyone think an FAQ for this group would be a good idea?
Although I think Greg is more qualified than me to do so, I'd be
happy to "flip" him for it if enough people say go for it.

Just trying to keep the signal-noise ratio up!  ;-)

Alek Komarnitsky                                      303-449-0649
Software Tools Manager, Spatial Technology, Inc.      2425 55th Street, Bldg A
alek@spatial.com                                      Boulder, CO 80301-5704

P.S. We also edited math.h. Kinda silly boo-boo by HP, but stuff happens. 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: tghe337@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it ()
Subject: Help on CRX-24 /Motif
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 09:43:35 GMT
Organization: C.d.C., Politecnico di Milano
Keywords: Motif
Summary: Help needed 

I need help about interfacing a CRX-24 graphics adapter with 
Motif 1.1
In particular I need info on using 24 bits color depth with
motif widgets

Any help ???
Thanks a lot in advance...
From: neal@neal.ctd.comsat.com (Neal Becker)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: POP3 Server Ported to 7xx ?
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:17:49 GMT
Organization: COMSAT Labs
NNTP-Posting-Host: neal.ctd.comsat.com
In-reply-to: cobb@betsy.mc.ti.com's message of 4 Sep 92 11:54:30 GMT

I have ported popper, which isn't difficult.  But I recommend you get
imap instead.  get imap.tar.Z from cac.washington.edu.  This includes
servers for the newer imap protocol *and* pop2 and pop3 built from the
same sources!  Also, popper doesn't work across NFS, while the imap
sources are very careful about this.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rjn@FC.HP.COM (Bob Niland)
Subject: Re: HP EISA/Ethernet Adaptor Info
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 21:36:50 GMT
Distribution: comp
Reply-To: rjn@FC.HP.COM
Organization: Hewlett-Packard/WSY Ft.Collins,CO,USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

> white@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Eric White) writes:

> I've heard that HP has an EISA Ethernet card that is supported with SCO
> drivers under SCO v.3.2.4/ODT v2.0.  Can anyone verify this information?
> If this card exists, does anyone know its model/product number and price?

The only EISA LAN card I see on our on-line systems is 27248A, listed as an
EISA EtherTwist and AUI card, at $695 USlist.  I have no info on SCO support.

We also sell an HP 25567A EISA Thin/AUI card, but it is for Series 700
HP-UX and there are unlikely to be any PC (DOS, OS2, PC-Unix) drivers for it.

Regards,                                              Hewlett-Packard
Bob Niland      Internet: rjn@FC.HP.COM               3404 East Harmony Road
                CompuServe:  71044,2124               Ft Collins CO 80525-9599
From: dek@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (David Kohl)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Help needed using fbackup with multiple volumes
Date: 28 Aug 92 11:43:40 GMT
Organization: the HP Response Center, Atlanta

/ hpuerca:comp.sys.hp / stephane@spxtech.qc.ca (Stephane Laroche) /  3:48 pm  Aug 25, 1992 /
Is it possible (it has to be...) to backup file systems to multiple
optical disks?  It is not clear from the manual if fbackup can handle
a change of volume cleanly even though the backup can't fit on one
disk.  Right now, fbackup stops whenever the first optical disk
is full.

Anyone can point me to a section of the manual explaining this or,
better, tell me what options I should use?  Our system is an HP9000 300
running HP-UX 8.0.

Thanks a lot,


-- 
Stephane Laroche,                 Securiplex Technologies Inc.
Stephane.Laroche@spxtech.qc.ca    Montreal, Quebec     CANADA
----------

The man pages for fbackup(1M) explain that fbackup will accept multiple
-f options.  If more than one output file is specified, fbackup uses 
each one successively and then repeats in a cyclical pattern.

---
dek@hpuerca.atl.hp.com
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From: ernulf@netcom.com (Kurt Ernulf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Installing Pnews on a HP720
Date: 26 Aug 92 13:15:12 GMT
Reply-To: psykern@pew.psy.gu.se
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Installing rn-4.4.pl3 on our HP720 running HP-UX ver. 8, rrn
works great with nntp communication with another host. However,
Pnews constantly ends at runtime with the message "no sysname
in usr/include/whoami.h". I have created such a file and tried
to give it a valid format, but nothing helps. Deleting the
file and reinstalling the package doesn't help either. The
local gethostname and uuname seem to work OK.

Does anybody have an idea how to make Pnews work? Now I have
to log in on the other side of the Atlantic to get this message
out to the newsgroup...

--Kurt Ernulf

Dept. of Psychology
Univ. of Goteborg, Sweden

psykern@pew.psy.gu.se
From: root@cs.Princeton.EDU (V. Visweswaran)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: Need help with Fortran and C
Keywords: libU77 fortran C
Date: 2 Sep 92 19:08:47 GMT
Organization: Princeton University

In article <tghe337.715361025@cdc835> tghe337@cdc835.cdc.polimi.it () writes:
>I'm tryng to call Fortran routines from a C program.
>The message I receive from the loader is : 
>
>/bin/ld: Unsatisfied symbols:
>   FTN_WS_STOP (code)
>   FTN_E_WSFE (code)
>   FTN_DO_CHIO (code)
>   U_dDrelease (code)
>   FTN_DO_I4IO (code)
>   FTN_DMOD$ (code)
>   FTN_DO_CHIOA (code)
>   FTN_S_WSFE (code)
>   F77_INDEX (code)
>   FTN_ISIGN (code)
>   STOREIMAGE (code)
>   U_dDget (code)
>

Linking with libcl.a should do the trick (at least on the 700's.) 
Or else, use f77 (instead of cc) as the loader. This will automatically
link with the required libraries.


Vishy Visweswaran
viswswrn@titan.princeton.edu

--
----------------------
V. Visweswaran

Bitnet: viswswrn@pucc                  	| Department of Chemical Engineering
From: mjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Marc Sabatella)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: Re: CC and /usr/lib/dld.sl
Date: 1 Sep 92 17:50:55 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpfcso.7371278
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA

In comp.sys.hp, jhd@irfu.se (Jan D.) writes:

> Anybody know why CC (HP C++ B2402  A.02.34 on a 730, HP-UX 8.07)
> always link in /usr/lib/dld.sl even if you say -Wl,-a,archive?
> 
> What does it do with it and is there anyway to get rid of it?

What it does is use shl_get(3X) and shl_findsym(3X) to locate all static
constructors within shared libraries so it can execute them at startup time.
There was no easy way for "CC" to know if this was necessary or not - ie, it
doesn't parse the "ld" options to find out if you are using shared libraries or
not - so it always links in that library.

If you don't mind this miniscule use of libdld.sl - one call to shl_get(3X) is
enough to convince CC there are no other shared libraries to worry about, then
just leave things alone.  If for some reason you can't tolerate even the
dependency on libdld.sl, you can use the output of "CC -v" to construct your
own link line (don't forget to run c++patch as shown by "CC -v" as well) and
leave off /usr/lib/libdld.sl, and provide dummy definitions of shl_get(3X) and
shl_findsym(3X).

BTW, libC also makes references to shl_load and shl_unload, but those are only
to enable implementation of cxxshl_load and cxxshl_unload; if you aren't using
the latter, you won't need the former.

--------------
Marc Sabatella (marc@hpmonk.fc.hp.com)
Disclaimers:
	2 + 2 = 3, for suitably small values of 2
	Bill (H.) and Dave (P.) may not always agree with me
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jeffc@wizard.larc.nasa.gov (jeff cleveland iii)
Subject: Re: VUE Console Window
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA  USA
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:05:33 GMT


The console is subject to the same autologout timeouts that all shells are.

You can restart the console by clicking on the Vue icon that looks like a stack
of windows. This will bring up the Vue application directories. Then double click
on the following items:

system_apps
terminal
CONSOLE



This allows access to a lot of other good utilities. In system_apps/X11_apps is an
icon that will allow you to edit your current X defaults.




Jeff Cleveland
Unisys Corporation
NASA Langley Research Center
jeffc@magician.larc.nasa.gov
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: rogers@eagle (Bill Rogers)
Subject: Re: INN on HP UX 8.02
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Organization: Sangamon State University
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:48:56 GMT

I would like to be a parasite and get a ported version of INN when whatever
generous person thinks it stable. Could someone care to oblige?

TIA,
Bill

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<>              Sangamon State University, HSB-115                          <>
<>              Springfield, Il 62794-9243     fax:217-786-7188             <>  
<> Internet:rogers@eagle.sangamon.edu        voice:217-786-7352(Mon.->Thur.)<>
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From: bayes@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (Scott Bayes)
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 20:44:41 GMT
Subject: Re: CD-ROM drive
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

> What is so special about the power cord for the CD-ROM drive?
> One can certainly make one at home in less than 14 weeks!
> 

Digital ready? Like the headphones :-)

Sorry, I really don't know our CD-ROM business, nor why it takes this
long.  Just couldn't resist.

ScottB
From: kk@hpl-opus.hpl.hp.com (Konstantinos Konstantinides)
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 19:34:02 GMT
Subject: Re: What is the 7xx series compatible with ?
Organization: HP Labs, High Speed Electronics Dept., Palo Alto, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp

In comp.sys.hp, e-sink@uiuc.edu (Eric W. Sink) writes:

> If I compile binaries on my 720, HPUX 8.07, will they run on any
> other series of the HP 9000 ?  For example, I have heard of Series
> 800, series 400, series 300, etc...  What am I compatible with, in
> theory ?
> 
> -- 
> Eric W. Sink, Spyglass        | [ Cute quote deleted ]
> 1800 Woodfield Drive          |
> Savoy, IL  61826              |
> ---- e-sink@uiuc.edu ---------|---------- 217-355-6000 -----------------------

Binaries on a 700 are good for 700s.
Binaries on an 800 run on 700s
Binaries on 300s run only on 300s/400s.

There are a couple of 800 compatibility modes on the 700,
so you may want to check the cc man pages.

KK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: mckee@fc.hp.com (Bret Mckee)
Subject: Re: Kermit - Device busy?
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 21:34:10 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Fort Collins Site
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5


: Anyone had similar experiences?  How did you solve it?
: (We have HP9000 workstations - series 400 I believe - and a hayes compatible
: modem).

Often SAM also starts a getty on the line,so do a ps and see if there is a
getty on the new line.  If so, edit /etc/inittab to take out the line which
started it, do an init q and then kill the getty.


Hope this helps,

Bret
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: roeber@vxcrna.cern.ch
Subject: Re: that HPUX cc compiler
Organization: CERN -- European Organization for Nuclear Research
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 13:39:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.111512.5655@bohra.cpg.oz.au>, als@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Anthony Shipman) writes:
> [cc -O seems not to work on several things]

A colleague here has found that several of his programs don't ever
finish compiling when optimization is turned on -- the compiler
just eats CPU forever.  Unfortunately, we can't tell exactly what
the compiler is doing, since our version of HP-UX doesn't have a
working /com/tb command.  (In fact, it seems the entire /com
directory is missing.. ;-)

-- 
Frederick G. M. Roeber | CERN -- European Center for Nuclear Research
e-mail: roeber@cern.ch or roeber@caltech.edu | work: +41 22 767 31 80
r-mail: CERN/PPE, 1211 Geneva 23, Switzerland | home: +33 50 42 19 44
From: chuckm@hpunsca.canada.hp.com (Chuck Munro)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 04:34:15 GMT
Subject: Re: hpdesk <-> unix mail?
Organization: H-P Canada Ltd., Dartmouth, N.S.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp


>  Please note that this information applies to HP's HPDesk system only...
> Other HPDesk systems will be different (your mileage may vary).

----------

Warren is absolutely right!  The format and content of HPDesk addresses
can be different for different corporations.  My apologies ... I forgot
that many more organizations besides HP use this product.

My examples apply to HP's own address format only. Bob Niland's caution
re the "%" construct should also be considered when emailing to HP.

Chuck.           Speaking for me, not H-P

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: jeff@dsndata.uucp (Jeff Minnig)
Subject: Re: Editorial comment on BASIC?
Organization: Design Data
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 15:03:38 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.190501.1793@u.washington.edu> kint@cairo.engr.washington.edu (Rick Kint) writes:

> Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
> Path: dsndata!tssi!unlinfo.unl.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!ux1.cso.uiuc.edu!sdd.hp.com!uakari.primate.wisc.edu!usenet.coe.montana.edu!news.u.washington.edu!cairo.engr.washington.edu!kint
> From: kint@cairo.engr.washington.edu (Rick Kint)
> Sender: news@u.washington.edu (USENET News System)
> Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
> Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:05:01 GMT
> Lines: 19
> 
> 	I just loaded BASIC/UX on our netdist server (shut up, Barts,
> or I'll tell the world about you and COBOL!).  Here is a partial look
> at the partitions from a subsequent run of update:
>  <stuff deleted>
> -- 
> Rick Kint				UNIX Geek, College of Engineering
> kint@engr.washington.edu		University of Washington, Seattle


If you loaded the distrib version of RMB/UX 6.2, be careful about
serial port performance.  The version I loaded replaced entries in
/etc/conf/libdreq.a and /etc/conf/libmin.a with buggy versions of
serial driver code sections...  I had to back the changes out.

I believe there is a patch available,  but don't have the number
right off hand...


-jeff-
--

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	I said it, not the people I work for.
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Jeff Minnig                     | (402) 476-8278
Design Data			|
1033 'O' St.  Suite 324         | {hpfcla,sparky}!dsndata!jeff
Lincoln NE 68508                | 
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From: tlin@metasoft.UUCP (Tse-Hsin Lin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
Subject: gdb-4.6 for hppa1.1 arch?
Date: 3 Sep 92 14:28:23 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Meta Software Corporation, Cambridge MA



In my prior posting about rcs on HPPA RISC machine, I have received lots
of support from the net. I asked HP to send me a patch tape and 
the problem has been solved. Thank you all.

I am trying to install gdb-4.6 on HP 9000/710 runing HPUX8.07 without much
success.

I use both ANSI C and  GCC-2.2.2 to compile it.

I am wondering if someone out there has better luck than I am.

I have ported utah version of pa-gdb-4.6 and moved the fixed program to
the standard GNU distribution.

I also have gas and bison installed as Utah recommended to do.

During the process of make, this is the last error I received.

--------------------------------------------------------------------------
gcc -c -g      -I. -I. -I./../include -I./../readline  init.c
cc1: warning: `-g' option not supported on this version of GCC
gcc    -o gdb init.o main.o blockframe.o breakpoint.o findvar.o stack.o source.
o values.o eval.o valops.o valarith.o valprint.o printcmd.o symtab.o symfile.o
symmisc.o infcmd.o infrun.o remote.o command.o utils.o expprint.o environ.o ver
sion.o gdbtypes.o copying.o hppa-pinsn.o hppahpux-tdep.o hppa-tdep.o exec.o hpp
ahpux-xdep.o hppa-coredep.o cplus-dem.o mem-break.o target.o inftarg.o ieee-flo
at.o putenv.o parse.o language.o c-exp.tab.o m2-exp.tab.o buildsym.o objfiles.o
 minsyms.o maint.o demangle.o dbxread.o coffread.o elfread.o dwarfread.o xcoffr
ead.o mipsread.o core.o inflow.o regex.o alloca.o   ./../bfd/libbfd.a  ./../rea
dline/libreadline.a -ltermcap ./../mmalloc/libmmalloc.a ./../libiberty/libibert
y.a
ld: Unsatisfied symbols:
   cplus_struct_default (data)
collect: /bin/ld returned 1 exit status
gnumake[1]: *** [gdb] Error 1
gnumake: *** [all-gdb] Error 1

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
I appreciate any suggestion to make my life easier. thanks.


-- 
Tse-Hsin Lin				Internet  : tlin@metasoft.com
meta Software Corp.			    or    : tlin@bu-it.bu.edu
Cambridge, MA 02140 USA			Tel       : 617-576-6920
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca (Lance R. Bailey)
Subject: su broken on HP-UX 8.0
Reply-To: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 17:12:06 GMT

this is the first unix system in many, many years which has given the 
following problem

if you su to change uid, you can type the entire passwd before the Password:
prompt and have it work.

while not an outright 'bug', it is unusual. su behaviour as i remember it in 
5.X, 7.X and bsd systems has stdin fflushed before reading they did it for a 
reason, if the password is accepted BEFORE the prompt, people tend to type it 
in before the prompt without waiting and thus it gets echoed on the screen.

i actually imagine this to be a bug in getpass(3).
--
Lance R. Bailey  System/Network Manager         Robarts Research Institute
     NeXT/email: zaphod@ctrg.rri.uwo.ca    box: Clinical Trials Resources Group
            fax: +1 519 663 3789                P.O. Box 5015, 100 Perth Dr.
            vox: +1 519 663 3787 x4108          London, Canada N6A 5K8
Fortunately I have my feathers numbered for just such an emergency. -F. Leghorn
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: franl@centerline.com (Fran Litterio)
Subject: Re: that HPUX ld linker again...
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 18:24:00 GMT

stuart@TIVOLI.COM (Stuart Jarriel) writes:

> ld: R_DATA_ONE_SYMBOL fixup in file ds_common.o for code unsat symbol "stupid_test" - use P' fixup
> 
> where stupid_test is the first function in the first .o file that I pass
> to the linker with a -b option (trying to build a shared-lib).
> 
> Has anyone seen the R_DATA_ONE_SYMBOL before, or know what at P' fixup
> is?  It looks like a nice loader diagnostic.

I think it's trying to tell you that you can only make shared
libraries out of object modules that are compiled in PIC (position
independant code) mode.  Compile your code using the +z swtich.
--
franl@centerline.com   || Fran Litterio                               
uunet!centerline!franl || CenterLine Software R&D                     
617-498-3255           || 10 Fawcett St, Cambridge, MA, USA 02138-1110
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp
From: panisset@lightning.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (Jean-Francois Panisset)
Subject: SLIP/PPP on HP-UX?
Keywords: SLIP PPP HP-UX 8.07
Organization: McGill Research Centre for Intelligent Machines
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 15:37:10 GMT


Sorry to ask what is probably a FAQ, but I am new to HP machines...

Does HP-UX (version 8.07) as delivered on an HP 710 come standard with an
implementation of either the SLIP or PPP protocols? If not, does HP offer
either of these as an optional product, or is there a third party/free
software alternative?

Thanks in advance,

JF

-- 
Jean-Francois Panisset                    
INET: panisset@mcrcim.mcgill.ca            
      panisset@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
UUCP: ...!mcgill-vision!panisset