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From: stef@itap.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Stefan Ried)
Subject: Emacs,DEC5000,Terminals
Keywords: VT100,DEC5000,EMACS,Terminal
Reply-To: stef@itap.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Stefan Ried)
Organization: ITAP University of Stuttgart
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:05:05 GMT


   Flow-Problems with Terminals
   ----------------------------


Hallo everybody,

Does anybody use EMACS with Terminals like DEC VT220 or
TransTec-Terminals emulating VT100, VT200 or VT220 ?

Configuration :

DEC 5000/120, Ultrix V4.2A (Rev. 47), Terminals DEC VT220 
and TransTec GDT6225 with 9600 baud

EMACS 18.58.2.


Problem :

The best way to run EMACS from Terminals is to configure
the Terminals to hardware-handshake. Then one can use
the CTRL+S key to I-SEARCH. This does not work on this DECstation
in principle. It seems to be a hardware or a Ultrix problem.

So we tried the software handshake XON,XOFF. The Terminal works
correctly with normal displaytask like "more .." and the VI editor.

To run EMACS we said in the "~/.emacs" file :

    (global-unset-key "\C-S")
    (global-unset-key "\C-Q")
    (setq search-exit-option nil)
     
Now EMACS should understand XON and XOFF as XON and XOFF.
(to use I-SEARCH we must bring it to another key)

If you start EMACS with a file with only an few lines everything
is ok !
If the file have eg. 100 Lines EMACS comes up with a correct
first display, but if the cursor is moved down the display is not
scrolled correctly.
The Terminal has about 250 bytes of buffer. Only the first half screen
is restaurated correctly and then a XOFF-XON sequence might happen and
the hole second part of the transmission, about 200 bytes, is lost.

Why does the standard tasks run on this Terminal and only EMACS do have
such a typical handshake-problem ?

Of cource the files ../emacs/lisp/term/vt200.el and so on are readable
for the emacs-user and "term" environment is set to vt200.

It really must be a handshake-mistake as Terminals with the same configuration
but a bigger buffer like PCs or Ataris emulation VT200 work on the same 
tty-line without trouble. 


Stefan Ried

Institut fuer theoretische und angewandte Physik, Uni Stuttgart, Deutschland
email: stef@itap.physik.uni-stuttgart.de



Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: youri@plutoni.mindef.fr (Wizard B.)
Subject: emacs manual
Organization: Gatewayed from the GNU Project mailing list help-gnu-emacs@prep.ai.mit.edu
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 16:27:09 GMT


	I would like to print emacs manual, but i have no TeX installed, and I do not want to install it just to print emacs manual.

	Do you have a postscript version of emacs-manual-18.59 ?

Sincerely,

	Olivier B. (French DoD, but not too serious ...)  <walker@plutoni.mindef.fr>
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: LEVITTE@e.kth.se (Richard Levitte)
Subject: Looking for testers
Organization: Department of TeleTransmission Theory
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 15:38:44 GMT

I would like to get in touch with ppl having access to Digital AXP
computers running OpenVMS, for testing GNU Emacs with patches for VMS.

If you're interested, please send mail to levitte@e.kth.se

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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: mmarolda@NeoSoft.com (Mike Marolda)
Subject: Re: Emacs 18.59 under SCO/ODT 1.1
Organization: Neosoft Communications
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:06:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.074209.1244@hccw.com> david@hccw.com (David Robison) writes:
>I am having some problem compiling Emacs 18.59 under SCO/ODT 1.1.
>I get a linker error with an unidentified symbol "Error" first
>referenced in /lib/libPW.a.
>
>Can anyone help me as to what the problem might be?
>
>Thanks,
>-- 
>David R. Robison            

I'm having the same problem.  I did find Error in libXt, but tinkering around
with the library order in the make hasn't helped.  

Any other suggestions anyone?

Mike Marolda  mmarolda@neosoft.com


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From: kgallagh@digi.lonestar.org (Kevin Gallagher)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: demacs crashes trying to load large (>1MB) text files
Keywords: demacs,crash, large files
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:21:46 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <eneafsey.724774924@lucpul.it.luc.edu> eneafsey@lucpul.it.luc.edu (E. J. Neafsey) writes:
>When I try to load large (>1MB) text files, such as Roget's Thesaurus
>or calc's texinfo file, demacs crashes.  Am I doing something wrong,
>or is it a problem with demacs?  BTW, Vernon Buerg's LIST program has
>no trouble with these files at all.

GNU Emacs was designed to run on a machine whose OS has lots of virtual
memory.  By design, when loading a file to edit, it loads the WHOLE file.

When I first ran into the problem, my system simply locked up.  I had to
reboot to restore things to normal.  Check your CONFIG.SYS and see how you
have your memory configured.  Compare this configuration to the memory
discusions in the Demacs documentation.  When I increased the amount of memory
available to Demacs to be larger than the largest file I wished to edit, I was
able to edit files over 1MB.  

In your case, I suspect that your configuration limits the memory available to
Demacs to 1MB.

>One other thing: any solutions to demacs's file locking problems that
>occur when you add the "-9" to SET TZ=CST-9???  The "-9" makes the
>time correct but screws up something else.  

At one time I used to have the problem where Demacs sometimes complained, when
I attempted to save a modified buffer, that the original file had changed on
disk since I started my edit session.  I have not seen this problem for a
long, long time and I have been unable to figure out what I must have done to
fix the problem.

When it happens again to you, please do the following:

        1.  Suspend Demacs with a C-z.
        2.  Query DOS for the current date and time and write it down.
        3.  Do a directory on the original unmodified file and write its date
            and time down.  Also record the date and time of any auto-save and
            backup files.
        4.  Type "exit" to return to Demacs.

If you collect this data for the next half dozen times you have the problem,
we may be able to see some pattern to this that may point to the bug in the
code. 
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From: ras@athena.mit.edu (Richard A Shandross)
Subject: Modes in Demacs Ver. 1.2.0
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 02:46:07 GMT

Can anyone post a list of the modes (especially major) included with Demacs
Ver. 1.2.0 (dem120e.zip)?  The information is much appreciated, and I can't
seem to find it in the documentation provided.  I do find documentation on
the PC-specific "translation mode" and "pass8 mode".

	Thanks,

	Rich

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From: jerry@lucy.claremont.edu
Subject: rcs mode for emacs?
Organization: Harvey Mudd College
Date: 30 Dec 92 21:13:41 PST

-- 
				Jerry Bakin
				jerry@hmcvax.claremont.edu
				(818) 594-5040
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From: johnw@everest.sps-tx.mot.com (John Waite)
Subject: Modeline "Mail" flag is stuck at 1
Organization: Motorola Microcontroller Division, MMTG, Austin, TX.
Distribution: gnu.emacs.help gnu.emacs.sources gnu.emacs comp.emacs
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:53:57 GMT

Hello,

	Might some knowledgeable one out there know why
my modeline's mail flag never goes away anymore after I
have read my mail.  It used to be that everytime a mail
was read, the flag went away.

	This is an annoyance and mild paranoia dicates
that I check it out as it might be indicative of a larger
problem.


Thankyou for reading thru,

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Motorola, Inc.			Systems Design
Mail Stop OE-320		
6501 William Cannon Dr. West	
Austin, TX  78735-8598 		johnw@sol-tx.sps.mot.com

Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: zhao@nmsu.edu (Z. Zhao)
Subject: emacs font for DEC 240
Reply-To: zhao@nmsu.edu
Organization: Computing Research Lab
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:43:48 GMT


I have installed emacs from gnuemacs.18.51 on my Dec500/240, but
couldn't read the tinny font. I have tryed several methods to changed
the font by putting
	emacs*font:      8x13
in .Xdefaults file, or
	(x-set-font   "8x13")
in  .emacs file, or run emacs by
	emacs -font lucidasanstypewriter-bold-12
, neither works. My machine says
	Xserver unable to find requested font 'lucidasanstypewriter-bold-12'.

Is there some other way I could try?


ZiZi
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From: perry@johann.johann.jpunix.com (John Perry)
Subject: .vm file doesn't work
Organization: J. P. and Associates
Distribution: gnu
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:41:05 GMT

Hello Everyone!

I just installed VM 4.41 on my system. I created the .vm file as
suggested in th documentation. VM doesn't seem to read the .vm file
upon startup. If I add the lines from .vm to the end of my .emacs
file, everything seems to work. Can anyone tell me why my .vm file is
not being processed?
-- 
 John A. Perry  -  perry@johann.jpunix.com
                   jpunix!johann!perry

 PGP Public Key available by fingering perry@phil.utmb.edu
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: xiong@fzi.de (Xiong Xun)
Subject: Ctrl-S on vt100
Reply-To: xiong@fzi.de
Organization: Forschungszentrum Informatik (FZI), Karlsruhe, Germany
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 10:28:39 GMT

Cntrl-S on a terminal leads to the holding of the display instead of 
incrementally "forward-search"ing a string. How can I get ride of this?

-- 
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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: jerry@math.ep.utexas.EDU (Jerry)
Subject: Re: Setting screen size
Organization: Department of Mathematical Sciences--University of Texas at El Paso
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 20:09:52 GMT

Roger Warner on December 22 wrote:
-> Is there a way inside of emacs to change the number of lines emacs believes
-> is on the screen?
-> 
-> A quick perusal of the source shows that emacs checks for screen size via the 
-> signal() and ioctl()s.  I frequently login to work from  home via 
-> a Mac running NCSA telnet.  I can and do display 32 lines on the screen and 
-> emacs refuses to acknowledge this.  I also note that the LINES shell variable
-> is ignored.

We have the same problem using the Clarkson Univ. version of NCSA
telnet via IBM PS/2's to connect to Sun workstations.

-> apple computer       |
-> A/UX engineering     |		     Propaganda Free Zone
-> photog@apple.com     |
-> (408) 974-1135       |

I don't work for Apple, should someone out there have the answer.
Muchas gracias.  -Jerry
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From: jabram@pdx025 (Jeff Abramson)
Subject: Re: function keys
Organization: Intel Corp., Hillsboro, Oregon
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 19:52:14 GMT

In article <9212302142.AA17915@life.ai.mit.edu> a.0013@vcc3.vcc.bc.CA (Jim Chivas  Vancouver Community College) writes:
>; In the following .emacs file I want to be placed into text-mode by default
>; and have my function key # 2 on my televideo terminal become the
>; scroll-up function.
>;
>; When I enter emacs I am still in default lisp mode and
>; when I hit my F2 key I get the letter A placed onto my screen, but no
>; scrollup.
>;
>; I am assuming that I don't have to write some complex function
>; definition to get my function keys to work. Most of the examples I have seen,
>; both in the FAQ and other books like GNU Emacs from O'Reilly & Assiciates
>; seem to state that I can do what I want using the global-set-key features.
>; The global-unset-key statements do work, though.
>;

Try this:

;; F2 incorporates new mail, loading mh if necessary.
;;
(define-key global-map (x-keysym-to-keystrokes "F2")
  'warp-to-mbox-and-inc)   

It works well, and you don't need cryptic codes. 



-- 
  Jeff Abramson
  Microprocessor Division 6                    jabram@ichips.intel.com
  Intel Corporation, Hillsboro OR                       (503) 696-4784
From: nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de (Juergen Nickelsen)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: c-mode per file customisation
Date: 30 Dec 1992 14:04:33 GMT
Organization: STONE Project, Technical University of Berlin, Germany
Reply-To: nickel@cs.tu-berlin.de
NNTP-Posting-Host: tempest.cs.tu-berlin.de
In-reply-to: dave@grunge.auspost.com.au's message of Wed, 30 Dec 1992 07:06:56 GMT

In article <DAVE.92Dec30170656@grunge.auspost.com.au>
dave@grunge.auspost.com.au (Dave Cole) writes:

> What would be nice is if you could embed the c-mode settings in each
> source file - then set these as you read the file in to a buffer.
> When you switch to a buffer would also be a nice time to change these
> variables.

There are several variables that control the formatting style for C
programs -- I set the following in my .emacs:

    (setq c-indent-level 4)
    (setq c-continued-statement-offset 4)
    (setq c-brace-offset -4)
    (setq c-argdecl-indent 0)

(Please don't discuss these settings -- this is just an example of my
*personal* preferences.)

You can set these variables in each sources files separately by using
Emacs' "Local Variables" section (read the node "File Variables" in
the Emacs manual). The bottom of a source file would then look like
this:

/*
 * Local Variables:
 * c-indent-level: 4
 * c-continued-statement-offset: 4
 * c-brace-offset: -4
 * c-argdecl-indent: 0
 * End:
 */

These variables (usually global) become buffer-local when set in this
way.

--
Juergen Nickelsen
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: theobald@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Allen M. Theobald)
Subject: Jump scrolling problem
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:17:43 GMT


Fellow Netters!

In emacs *shell* and *cmushell* is there any way to turn jump
scrolling off?  I would like it to become smooth so that 'cat'
and 'more' work correctly.  This command works for the buffers
but not the *shell* or *cmushell* buffers:


	;; this set smooth scrolling when cursor goes off page
	(setq scroll-step 1)



		Thanks,

		Allen
From: theobald@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Allen M. Theobald)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Time Mgmt in emacs
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:13:47 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Cincinnati

Fellow Netters!

Does anyone know of lisp programs to do "time management" type
functionality?  Specifically, i'm looking for "daily log of
events" and "todo" type programs.

I know of this command in emacs:

	add-change-log-entry	      
	
to change log file and add an entry for the day.  It is nice, but
it puts its entries in the wrong order (newest at the top, oldest 
at the bottom).

Feel free to mail me or post to this news group.  I read both
regularly.


			Seasons Greetings!

			Allen
From: 6500axel@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Axel Boldt)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: webster with emacs 18.59 ?
Date: 3 Jan 93 22:59:15 GMT
Reply-To: 6500axel@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu
Organization: Univ of California, Santa Barbara, Dept of Mathematics


Has someone running webster.el (version last changed 4/15/92) with
emacs 18.59? I always get 'Attempting to connect to server ...' and
then 'Process webster not running'. This error message is generated by
the line 
  (process-send-string  webster-process webster-command)
in webster-send-request; I suspect that the problem lies in the
command make-shell a few lines earlier. Did the definition of
make-shell change in the new emacs release? Why is make-shell nowhere
documented? 

Thanks,
  Axel.
From: cb@informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de (Christoph Blaue)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: binding cntrl-SPC to set-mark-command
Date: 24 Dec 1992 09:13:08 +0100
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Kiel, FRG
NNTP-Posting-Host: lucy.informatik.uni-kiel.dbp.de

You probably use demacs under MS-DO*. 
Forget it!
ctrl-spc is the same as ctrl-@, which is the null-byte used for the
escape sequences of the non-alphanumeric keys. 
So make your decision: 
 NO function or cursor key BUT one ctrl-spc 
vs. almost ALL function and cursor keys BUT ctrl-spc only as a prefix

You can, however, use ctrl-spc ctrl-spc (twice).

If you use some other emacs, I can't give you any advice


  christoph
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From: ori@marvin.technion.ac.il (Ori Degani)
Subject: Emacs or Epoch
Organization: Heart of Gold Institute
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:16:47 GMT
Summary: Emacs vs. Epoch
Keywords: Emacs Epoch

Really quick:  What do you recommend Emacs, or Epoch?
(I'm currently using Epoch 4.0 Patchlevel 2)

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Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
From: dave@grunge.auspost.com.au (Dave Cole)
Subject: c-mode per file customisation
Organization: Australia Post
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 07:06:56 GMT

Has anyone tackled the problem you have when more than one person
works on some system where multiple formatting styles are present.

What would be nice is if you could embed the c-mode settings in each
source file - then set these as you read the file in to a buffer.
When you switch to a buffer would also be a nice time to change these
variables.

Help in the form of source would be mega-handy.

Thanks in advance - Dave

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From: jerry@math.ep.utexas.EDU (Jerry)
Subject: Re: WANTED: highlight-region code
Organization: Department of Mathematical Sciences--University of Texas at El Paso
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 23:45:49 GMT

This code was fleshed out on the net some months ago.  It has the
advantage of not using delete-region which messes up undo history.  It
should also work under X, which the ispell version had some difficulty
with on certain machines ("you may have to rewrite this..." in the
comment).  Hope this helps.

-Jerry


;; ---------------- highlight-region.el ----------------------------

(defun highlight-region (p1 p2)
  "Highlight the current region in reverse video."
  (interactive "r")
  (highlight-region-internal p1 p2 t))

(defun unhighlight-region (p1 p2)
  "Unhighlight the current region.  If region is displayed in reverse
video, then it no longer will be."
  (interactive "r")
  (highlight-region-internal p1 p2 nil))

(defun highlight-region-internal (p1 p2 highlight)
  "Highlight/unhighlight the region between P1 and P2.  HIGHLIGHT set to T
means do highlight, NIL means don't."
  (save-excursion
    (save-restriction
      (let ((screen-start (progn (move-to-window-line 0)
				 (point)))
	    (screen-end (progn (move-to-window-line -1)
			       (end-of-line 1)
			       (point)))
	    (region-start (min p1 p2))
	    (region-end (max p1 p2)))

	(setq region-start (max region-start screen-start))
	(setq region-end (min region-end screen-end))
			  
	(goto-char region-start)
	(narrow-to-region screen-start region-start)
	(sit-for 0)

	(let ((inverse-video highlight))
	  (goto-char screen-start)
	  (widen)
	  (narrow-to-region screen-start region-end)
	  (sit-for 0)
	  )))))
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From: emclean@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Emmett McLean)
Subject: Enhancing Emacs scroll capabilities
Organization: San Francisco State University
Distribution: NA
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 05:06:12 GMT

 This is a repost of a message I posted about 8 weeks
 ago. No one responded. *Ugh*. Is what I am requesting
 within the scope of what Emacs can do?

 ***
 I am running an application interactively through Emacs
 on a vt100-like terminal.  On occasion I invoke an
 instruction (or a command) which produces several
 hundred lines of output. Unfortunately, waiting 
 for the output to scroll by is a time consumming ordeal 
 since Emacs does not directly print out the output, but
 instead prints til reaching the minibuffer, provides a few 
 blank lines, prints til reaching the minibuffer, provides
 a few blank lines, etc.  To speed things up I would like some 
 code to put into my .emacs file making Emacs print until
 reaching the minibuffer, clear the screen, print to the mini-
 buffer, clear the screen, etc. Also, I want to do this 
 without resetting the scroll-step variable since I 
 frequently go back through my session to edit old commands
 and I hate having to look around for the point. (Keeping
 scroll-step set to four does this for me.) Does
 anyone know of something which I might find helpful?

 Thanks,

 Emmett.
From: dodd@mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu (Lawrence R. Dodd)
Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help
Subject: looking for copy of VC package
Summary: looking for copy of VC package
Keywords: RCS, version control, VC package, Emacs v19
Date: 22 Dec 92 20:46:57 GMT
Organization: Dept of Chemical Engineering, Polytechnic Univ, NY, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu


In sub-node `Version Control' of node `Version 19' of the GNU Emacs info pages
it reads:


  Emacs supports use of either RCS or SCCS (a proprietary, but widely
  used, version control system that is not quite as powerful as RCS)
  through a facility called VC.


Can any one there tell me if and where I could get a copy of VC to use prior
to the release of Emacs v19?  I don't think that the Lucid version of Emacs
has this package.

Thanks.
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From: pdh@netcom.com (Phil Howard )
Subject: getting emacs to use region scroll
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 01:57:41 GMT

I believe my problem is that the termcap entries do not include any
specification of region scrolling.  Somehow I need to fix that (but
this is going to be difficult because I am a mere user, not the sysadmin,
on this machine, and UNIX seems to be designed to be customized only by
sysadmins).  I've scrounged /etc/termcap for any suitable alternates, but
none are to be found.  Eventually I hope to hack together a way to create
my own termcaps and somehow get those to be used in lieu of /etc/termcap.

IN THE MEAN TIME, is there any work around in GNU EMACS to force it to do
region scrolling ANYWAY, despite the termcap being in error?  This is the
substantial problem I have right now.
-- 
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From: behzad@jolt.att.com (Behzad Nadji)
Subject: sdiff.el? (Summary and thanks)
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 21:56:08 GMT
Followup-To: gnu.emacs.help
Keywords: diff emerge

I sent a request a while back asking:

 >  Does anyone have a lisp function for diff'ing two buffers side by side,
 >  similar to what sdiff does but in emacs?

I received a dozen responses.  To summarize, most everyone referred me
to the emerge package:

	;; LCD Archive Entry:
	;; emerge|Dale R. Worley|drw@math.mit.edu
	;; |File merge
	;; |92-11-20|version 5 beta|~/packages/emerge.el.Z

One person referred me to diff.el (part of emacs 19) and another to
compare-w.el (part of standard distribution).  I found that emerge is
very close to what I had in mind.

I like to thank all who responded, especially bergquis@gdc.com (Brett
Bergquist) who mailed me emerge.el.  

Thanks,

-- 
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