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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: 'PowerOffDisabled' suggested trick... (RTF)
From: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (Robert Frank)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:01:50 GMT
Reply-To: frank@ifi.unibas.ch
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik

In article <C0qGHw.2E0@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>  writes:
> yann@dagobah.fdn.org (Yann Lechelle) writes:
> 
> 
> >  POWER OFF DISABLED...  THEN WHAT ?????
> 
> >	As a paranoid system administrator, I welcomed the  
> >'PowerOffDisabled' option from the loginwindow program. However, it  
> >is true that when such an option is set, it is not that convenient to  
> >	actually performs a shutdown without the need to be  
> >super-user
> >	(which would corrupt security greatly !).
> 
> 
> >Thanks.
> 
> If you are at the console, try Cmd-~ then hit the power key.  It
> works even if PowerOff[is]Disabled.
> -- 
> David Lemson                                                (217) 244-1205
> University of Illinois NeXT Campus Consultant / CCSO NeXT Lab System Admin
> Internet : lemson@uiuc.edu                UUCP :...!uiucuxc!uiucux1!lemson 
> NeXTMail & MIME accepted                           BITNET : LEMSON@UIUCVMD

Ooo, ouch, that hurts!

Now, there is a verry nice way to do this as root (iehter logged in or su'd):

shutdown -h -p now

and, if I'm not all wrong, this is also what can be used instead of the  
non-existant fasthalt!

--
Robert Frank                         tel. + (061) 321 99 67                 
Institut fuer Informatik             fax  + (061) 321 99 15                 
University of Basel, Switzerland                                            
Mittlere Strasse 142      rfc822: frank@ifi.unibas.ch (NeXT mail accepted)  
CH-4056 Basel          X400: S=frank;OU=ifi;O=unibas;P=switch;A=arcom;C=ch
From: tvt@byteme.EBay.Sun.COM (ByteMe)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: HELP: Install NS 3.0
Date: 11 Jan 1993 07:26:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: na
Reply-To: tvt@byteme.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: byteme.ebay.sun.com

Howdy,

The hard disk in my slab crashed! I lost everything on that drive and
cannot boot up with this drive. Fortunately, all the my projects are on 
a different drive. 

Right now, I have a NS 3.0 CDROM, CDROM drive, the floppy disk that came
with 3.0 release. Is there anyway that would allow me to rebuild my internal
hard disk and load it with NS 3.0?


Please send your reply to tvt@byteme.EBay.Sun.COM

Thank you,

-tien-
-----------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: windsor@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Eric W. Blankenburg)
Subject: >>> HELP PLEASE <<< NS 1.0 -> NS 3.0...very tough!!!
Organization: Math Dept., University of Illinois at Urbana/Champaign
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 03:32:44 GMT

I am currently trying to upgrade my Next Cube from NextStep 1.0 directly
to NextStep 3.0.  I don't have a floppy.  I do have a CD-ROM Drive.  I also
have a OD, but it may be useless under 3.0.  I also have a 33 Mhz 040 board
that I want to install.  I have the NextStep 3.0 Distribution CD.  

Here's the first question.  Is there a CD-ROM Driver that runs under 1.0?
If so, where do I get it?  

Will NextStep 3.0 boot on an 030 motherboard?

Is it essential that I have a 2.88 Floppy drive to install 3.0?

If a CD-ROM Driver exists for 1.0, can I boot 3.0 from the CD-ROM drive and 
upgrade my system?


If I have missed any salient points about upgrading from 1.0 to 3.0, please
realize that I only wanted to post a short note.  If you know how to upgrade
from 1.0 to 3.0, please send me email at windsor@symcom.math.uiuc.edu.

Thanks in advance

windsor

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: bmwu@athena.mit.edu (Benson M. Wu)
Subject: Help Repair OD!!!
Keywords: unrecognizable optical disk
	
	I am running a 68040 Cube with NeXTStep 2.1.
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:21:45 GMT
Expires: Sun, 31 Jan 1993 05:00:00 GMT

	When I inserted the optical disk in, a panel would
come up telling me that the disk needs repair and asked 
me whether I would like to repair, initialize, or ignore it.
When I click on repair, the OD drive will spin up and down 
several times and then tell me that it can't repair.

	So I start reading the manuals.  I used fsck
interactively and with the -y option several times
with this optical disk.  the following is a transcript
produced by the various fsck commands.  It is consistently
reproducible.

cube# fsck -y /dev/rod0a

** /dev/rod0a

** Last Mounted on /benson2

** Phase 1 - Check Blocks and Sizes



CANNOT READ: BLK 205200

CONTINUE?  yes



THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 205204,



CANNOT READ: BLK 218168

CONTINUE?  yes



THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 218172,



CANNOT READ: BLK 218264

CONTINUE?  yes



THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 218268,

** Phase 2 - Check Pathnames



CANNOT READ: BLK 187952

CONTINUE?  yes



THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE READ: 187956,

** Phase 3 - Check Connectivity

** Phase 4 - Check Reference Counts

** Phase 5 - Check Cyl groups

BLK(S) MISSING IN BIT MAPS

SALVAGE?  yes





CANNOT WRITE: BLK 205432

CONTINUE?  yes



THE FOLLOWING SECTORS COULD NOT BE WRITTEN: 205432, 205433,

2128 files, 200055 used, 33011 free (1299 frags, 3964 blocks, 0.6% fragmentation

)

File system not may not be clean!  Run fsck again to clean.


From the above transcript, I know that some sectors are just
not recoverable since they can't be read or written.
However, even after I ran fsck, the system still won't recognize
this optical disk.  

	I would appreciate any advice at this point.  Is there
any unix utilities out there that will recover files for you
like the Norton Utilities for the Mac or PC?  This is one program
I would be willing to shell out top $$$ for.  

	Best regards,

	Benson Wu
	bmwu@athena.mit.edu
	(No NeXTMail please)
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: UserManager fails during creation of new net user
Date: 6 Jan 93 22:12:38 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, UCSB

Upon creating my first new user account since upgrading to 3.0, I run across
the following problem:  After confirming the password and confirming that I
wish to create the user's home directory, I get the following Alert panel:

/etc/nulib/nu2.sh /home/class/toby "34" "62" 0 0
English

No such file or directory


And when I hit OK, the account is not created, nor is the new user entry
saved (i.e., the user panel shows an incomplete 'x' in the box), but an entry
does exist in the user list for the '/' domain.

Can someone tell me what this is telling me?  Am I missing a language
directory somewhere or something?

Thanks!!


-- 
Douglas Scott                              (805)893-8352
Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
University of California, Santa Barbara
Internet: (NeXTMail ok)   <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu (Gary I. Chang)
Subject: ROM monitor error
Reply-To: garyc@lenny.acns.nwu.edu
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 05:19:32 GMT

Hi,

	After upgrading to 3.0, I deleted /Net which was empty on my stand  
alone NSC. From that on, I could never boot up the system, I was put in  
the ROM monitor window with the message:

	Exception #3 (0xc) at 0x100034c

	my ROM ver is 2.4(v65)

	I had to 'bsd' to bring up the loginwindow.... after that  
everything seems to be fine until the next reboot...... any idea?

g

--
+----------------+
| Gary I. Chang	 |
+----------------+   
Northwestern Univ.      E-Mail: garyc@eecs.nwu.edu
From: wainner@rest.tasc.com. (Scott Wainner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: running X remote
Date: 4 Jan 1993 22:18:11 GMT
Organization: TASC
Distribution: world
Reply-To: wainner@rest.tasc.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: sun.rest.tasc.com

In article <STATMAN.92Dec31115709@mullet.stat.ufl.edu>  
statman@stat.ufl.edu (Chuck Kincaid) writes:
> 	So I say  
> 		setenv DISPLAY 128.227.8.68:0 
> which is the IP number of my station.  However, it tells me that the
> client does not have authorization to connect to server.  Can anyone
> tell me what I am missing?  How do i provide authorization?  Better yet,
> where can i look this up in the manuals?  
> 	Any help is greatly appreciated.
The X Server must authorize the client to display.  I have used the
command: /usr/bin/X11/xhost + hostname
where hostname is your host for display purposes.  The + means add to
the authorization list.

##########################################################################

Scott Wainner				Internet: swainner@tasc.com
The Analytic Sciences Corp			  wainner@hq.af.mil
12100 Sunset Hills Road				  
Reston, Virginia 22091			Phone:    (703) 834-5000
From: doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu (Douglas Scott)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: UserManager fails during creation of new net user
Date: 7 Jan 93 03:40:48 GMT
Organization: Center for Computer Music Research and Composition, UCSB

I found my own answer to this one:  The nu program does not communicate an
error to the user when it cannot create the new user's home directory (due to
permissions, for ex.), but instead produces an error at a later point in the
process when it attempts to access files that it has supposedly copied into
that directory.

This is relatively minor, but it would be nice if there were a bit more error
checking done.


-- 
Douglas Scott                              (805)893-8352
Center for Computer Music Research and Composition
University of California, Santa Barbara
Internet: (NeXTMail ok)   <doug@foxtrot.ccmrc.ucsb.edu>
From: robinc@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Robert Delucca)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: SLIP config files HELP
Date: 12 Jan 1993 15:35:41 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
Keywords: SLIP Supra

Hello,

I'm getting started configuring SLIP on this NS Turbo (the
server relay is also an NS Turbo). We're both using Supra
modems, V.32 and .32bis respectively.

If any kind soul can help out with suggestions/tips for the 
tcldiald TCL script and the login-annex.tcl file I'd 
appreciate it.  Any other tips welcome.

Thanks

BTW the SLIP version is Louie Mamakos' available at sonata
in submissions directory

de Lucca
Johns Hopkins Univ
Nextmail rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: rpajarol@iiic.ethz.ch (Renato Bruno Pajarola)
Subject: Re: rc.local
Organization: Dept. Informatik, Swiss Federal Institute of Technology (ETH), Zurich, CH
Distribution: Distribution: 
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 12:04:52 GMT


I posted the question about sndplay and nppower off in the rc.local
script.

I tried out the tips and the solution is in both cases:
put a sleep command and then the other.

(sleep 10; /usr/bin/sndplay ...) &
(sleep 10; /usr/etc/nppower off) &

I guess you have to wait until the loginwindow process is
correctly started and then al the "services" have their correct
behaviour.

sndplay and nppower start now after the loginwindow appears.
The printer is now "Private" after logging in, and that's
what I wanted.

Thanks for the tips,
-------------------------------------------------------------

Name:           Renato Pajarola
Country:        Switzerland
Profession:     Student in Computer Science ETH Zuerich
E-Mail:         rpajarol@iiic.ethz.ch

There's a hell of a good universe NeXT door; let's go ...

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: dan@foghorn.pass.wayne.edu (Daniel Cwiertniewicz)
Subject: Re: PPP and/or SLIP drivers for a NeXTstati
Reply-To: dan@foghorn.pass.wayne.edu
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:28:20 GMT

In article 4131@ifi.unizh.ch, kluge@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (kluge daniel) writes:
>jessica.bvl.pt!root (Operator) writes:
>There is a next-ppp package at merit.edu, with all the binaries, and
>some
>explanations to the installation on the NeXT, among the binaries, there
>are some sources, that are impossible to compile (IMHO offcourse).

I agree. I do this kind of stuff for a living and I found the PPP stuff at
merit.edu almost completely incomprehensible.  I tried contacting the folks
at Merit, but no one there seemed to know anything about it.  I am going
to check the PPP discussion group and see if anyone there has thoughts on
this subject.  I'll post here if I get a workable solution.  Otherwise
Morningstar seems to be the only vendor with a PPP implementation for NeXT.

---
Daniel Cwiertniewicz				Phone:	(313)-577-0787
Systems Analyst, Networking Support Group	Fax:	(313)-577-8787
Computing and Information Technology		E-Mail:	DCWIERT@WAYNEST1 or
Wayne State University				dan@foghorn.pass.wayne.edu


Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: b_brottier@cubx.oleane.com
Subject: Re: NeXTstep 3.0 and an 030 Cube
Organization: Cub'X Systemes, France.
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 10:51:37 GMT

In article <1hvbppINNfr@au-ns.american.edu> jkight@au-ns.american.edu  
(Jeff Kight) writes:
        I have been cautioned that 3.0 might not work on an 030  
cube...is 	there anything to this?  And if there is...why?
        
        Jeff

I am using an old cube 030 as a Printer and OD Server, and it works  
fine.
It is so slow that I can not use it as a user machine, but, in fact I  
could, of course.
No problemo since 3 month.
Build your disk and try.

BB
      
        
        -- 
        Jeff Kight                                            
jkight@american.edu
        The American University Computing Center                   
(202) 885-2281
        Washington DC  20016-8019 USA                         Fax  
(202) 885-2224

--
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Societe improve sa,
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Tel : (+33) (1) 30 70 60 56   Fax : (+33) (1) 30 70 89 36
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Dave Kinchlea)
Subject: Re: What does NeXTMail do during `undelete' command?
Reply-To: kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca
Organization: Heart Valve Group, John P. Robarts Research Institiute, London, Ont. Canada
Distribution: uwo
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 15:01:56 GMT

[Following up on my own article :
In article <1993Jan8.180037.23392@julian.uwo.ca>, kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca (Dave Kinchlea) writes:
]

A number of people have mailed to tell me that NextMail simply updates
the table_of_contents file. This I already knew  but I need more details.
Can someone in the know tell me about the layout of this file
and/or EXACTLY what is done during the undelete command (ie: is it
really updated or is a new file created? is it a holey fil? what is
the structure of the file? is file locking used and if so what kind? etc).

I would really like to determine what is happening to my Iris (it
crashes because of an `Undelete' request from an NFS mounted NeXT) 
and the first order of business is to figure out what exactly is
*supposed* to happen (and then try to figure out what IS happening).

Thanks to those who have already sent me mail (too numerous to
mention), although there was no new information given to me I
appreciate the effort.

cheerskinch


Dave Kinchlea            
email:	 	kinch@valve.heart.rri.uwo.ca
Snail-mail:	System Administrator/Research Programmer
		John P. Robarts Research Institute.
		P.O. Box 5015,
		100 Perth Drive,
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A Real Live Voice: (519)-663-5777-x4406

".... 2 to the power 759 million to 1 and falling ..." HHGTG
From: wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu (Wade Blomgren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
Subject: Re: cron and shell scripts
Date: 7 Jan 1993 19:01:48 GMT
Organization: UC San Diego Academic Computing
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsd.edu
Summary: csh under cron, strange failures


In an article, mikael@scout.utexas.edu (Mikael Behrens) writes:
|> 
|> [description of failure of cron entry for user other than root]

After upgrading to 3.0 I am having a related problem, with non-root
csh scripts run from cron.  The scripts are run, but any redirection
of output from a command in the script goes to the standard output
of the script, not to the target of the redirection.

For example, the following script (saved in, say, /tmp/script, mode 755):

#! /bin/csh
echo foo > /tmp/bar

run by the following crontab entry:

* * * * * me /tmp/script > /tmp/script.out 2>&1

results in the word "foo" appearing in /tmp/script.out, NOT /tmp/bar.

The same is true for piped output:

cat /etc/hosts | grep localhost > /tmp/bar

will send the entire hosts file to the output of the script, and nothing
goes through the grep or into /tmp/bar.

NOTE: the output files _are created_.  That is to say, in the first
simple example, the file /tmp/bar will exist, but it will be empty.

This behavior does not seem to happen when the cron command is run by
root.  When the script is run from the command line by the user account
it works fine. 

The problem does not occur on a self contained machine in my office but
it does occur on our other machines.  As I type this I realize the main
difference between my machine and the failing machines is the failing
machines are running NIS.  I'm going to turn NIS off on one of the
machines and see if the problem goes away.  In the meantime, can anyone
else who is using NIS (or not) under 3.0 comment?  Am I hallucinating?

Wade Blomgren
wade@hobbes.ucsd.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: eoliver@ralph.cs.haverford.edu (Erik Oliver)
Subject: Re: sendmail problem
Organization: Haverford College Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 13:29:44 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.222922.4587@prodigy.bc.ca> jchin@prodigy.bc.ca writes:
>In article <1993Jan7.222028.4493@prodigy.bc.ca> jchin@prodigy.bc.ca  
>(Joseph Chin) writes:
>> I've just noticed that since I upgraded to 3.0, I can no 
>> longer send email to accounts within my domain 
>> (prodigy.bc.ca). Is there a bug in the 3.0 sendmail.cf 
>> file? The NeXT is a mail client on the network, and the 
>> mail host is a Sun Sparc server. Everything worked fine 
>> before the 3.0 upgrade. 
>
>I forgot to add that the following was found in the  
>/usr/spool/mqueue/syslog file:
>Jan  7 13:39:25 johnette sendmail[942]: AA00939: to=jchin, delay=00:00:04,  
>stat=Service unavailable, mailer=etherl
>
>Joe
>--
>Joseph Chin				Prodigy Technologies Corp.
>jchin@prodigy.bc.ca (NeXTmail welcome)	Vancouver, British Columbia
>phone 16046874636 / fax 16046871671	Canada
> **** "Heaven won't take me and Hell's afraid I'll take over!" ****

Okay, well we had so much trouble with sendmail and our network that we
ended up almost completely rewriting the rule sets in many cases.

Sendmail is an extremely complicated system and trying to figure out
what is going wrong can be very difficult.  There is however, a
debugging mode: sendmail -bt, this will show you how addresses are being
parsed on your NS and which rule set is being used.

Also, make sure you are using the correct sendmail.cf file, the NeXT
comes shipped with a number of them.

At our site we ended up making our next a mailhost/server before we
finally got things right...  Then we had to modify Rule sets 0,D, and 1
to get addresses to parse right, all in all a nasty job.  The problems
we had:
	(1) a VAX Domain Server running PMDF configured not to understand
		UNIX mail addressing conventions... sigh!
	(2) a dotted machine name, ralph.cs where there is no cs domain,

and through all of this, w still got it to work.		

So good luck, read your manuals carefully, and discover the sendmail
comp newsgroup.

-Erik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.sysadmin
From: tjhendry@queen.mcs.drexel.edu
Subject: OD Media Rendered Useless by funky drive?
Reply-To: tjhendry@queen.mcs.drexel.edu
Distribution: USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:09:31 GMT


Hi. I've got an OD that was going south for a while. It basically made  
a 
mess of my two optical disks. Yeah, I know, I should have had them write protected.

Anyway, now that I have cleaned my OD, the disks are still reported unusable.
I don't know if it's the disks or if it's the drive.

1) Is there any way to do a "low-level" format on the disks?
2) Are the disks repairable?


Please respond via email, since my access to the c.s.next.* groups will end when I go back to school.

Thanks!
--
Jonathan Hendry  Anderson Financial Systems
jon@afs.com  (Nextmail Welcome!) or hendryjw@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu
ght find it? I recently tried  hooking my cube to my Sony 5 disk changer, b
From: kevins@slow.inslab.uky.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.advocacy
Subject: Re: Gosip in 1993
Date: 12 Jan 93 23:36:05 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

I'm very interested in knowing how many of the AppSoft packages have actually  
been started. It's my understanding that the majority of them haven't even hit  
the design phase... Nice boxes though!

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