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From: djdaneh@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes)
Subject: Re: OS Card: Child Abuse stories?
Reply-To: djdaneh@PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:06:41 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.201436.22896@csus.edu> arthurc@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Arthur Chandler) writes:
>  Someone on the Internet once wrote me that Card's stories have an
>inordinate amount of child torture and suffering.  The longer i thought
>about that, the truer it seemed.  Anyone out there agree, and/or have an
>explanation as to why children are made to suffer so much in his tales?

Why...yes.

The following is a paraphrase -- as close to accurate quote as I can from memory
at a distance of a couple of years -- of comments Card made at a Baycon at which
he was GoH.

	'_'I spent a lot of time thinking about how to make a story
	grab the reader and not let go.  The best way for a story to
	grab the reader by presenting someone in a lot of trouble 
	they don't deserve.  Someone innocent.  In the average person's 
	mind, nothing is more innocent than a child, so a child in 
	imminent danger of death or maiming is the best way to grab and 
	hold the reader's attention.'-'

To put it bluntly, this is a very deliberate, one might even say cynical, ploy 
on Card's part to manipulate the reader's emotions, to force the reader to give
buy-in to his situations that he hasn't earned.  

Summary of discussion of how to "earn" the reader's buy-in:  present, in a
convincing manner, a character who comes to matter to the reader because of his
or her individual personality and values, and of a problem that matters to the 
reader _because_ it matters to the character.  The distinction between this and
unearned buy-in might be considered analogous to the difference between a good 
documentary and the attention-grabbing headlines on a supermarket tabloid, the 
latter approach, obviously, being the one analogous to Card's.


			"You realize, pally, that your gun is
			likely *plugged* with tar an' won't
			fire proper."
				"A logical theory, old friend....step
				closer so that we may experiment."


Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, Net.Roach
My opinions do NOT represent Pacific Bell,
Professional Development, or anyone else.
But I'm willing to share.
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From: jasonr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Jason F Ralph)
Subject: Re: Julian May: Anthology? Sets?
Organization: University of Sussex
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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 09:41:49 GMT

rr@chem.ucsd.edu (Roxanne Rohmann) writes:
: In article <1992Nov16.093933.17659@syma.sussex.ac.uk> jasonr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Jason F Ralph) writes:
:  > Does this mean that _Diamond Mask_ and the other one (the title of which
:  > eludes me for the moment) are available!?!
:  > 
: No, only books that have been published, and I'm reasonably sure
: that Diamond Mask hasn't been, yet.  Her latest is still the one
: called Jack the Bodiless.  Someone, I'm sure, will correct me if
: I'm wrong.
: 
OK, just checking... Last info is that Diamond Mask will be coming out
next May in the States and sometime after that in the UK...

E.E. 'Doc' Splot.


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From: Greg_Goss@mindlink.bc.ca (Greg Goss)
Subject: Re: Looking for author/title of short story
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 07:46:44 GMT

> Mossel TAK writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <BxLp6v.A30@cs.vu.nl>
> Posted: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 11:28:0
>
> Org.  : Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
>
> Hiya. Some time ago, I read a short story about a man who programmed a
> computer to process a prayer over and over, like a Buddhist prayer-wheel.
> Eventually, something happened. This is all I can remember, So if anyone
> can help me with the title, author, where to find it, or even the plot,
> I'd be very grateful...
>
> Greetings,
>
>                         Krijn (tamossel@cs.vu.nl)

The title story from A.C. Clark's "The Nine Billion Names of God".

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From: WARWICKR@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU (Richard Warwick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: anybody read /enjoy James Hogan?
Date: 23 Nov 92 21:18:00 GMT

DATE SENT:  23-NOV-1992 15:17:33 

I'm curious if anybody on the list has any comments about works by
James Hogan.  I've enjoyed most of his writings, particularly 
_The Genesis Machine_ and his "Giants of Ganemede" series.

Richard

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From: bjones@denitqm.uswest.com (Brent Jones)
Subject: Re: Blaylock and Powers
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.written
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:58:40 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.010905.19536@eff.org>, write@eff.org (Glen Cox)
wrote:
> 
> It might also help to understand the traditions Blaylock is playing
> on, and as far as I know, you may.  However, in case you haven't
> read any of the following, they may prove useful:
> 
>     John Updike, THE COUP
>     Robertson Davies, The Deptford Trilogy
>     Lawrence Sterne, TRISTRAM SHANDY
> 
> Of the three, I'm only sure about the last as an influence on 
> Blaylock; it is one of his favorite books.  The other two are 
> guesses based on certain similarities.
> 
> /== Glen E. Cox =============================================================\
> |  write@eff.org  |  CURRENTLY SEEKING: Rex Stout, Three at Wolfe's Door      
> |  GEnie: G.COX3  |                     P.G. Wodehouse, Mike                  > | DELPHI: MRWRITE |                     Ed McBain, 'Til Death                 

Some books Blaylock mentioned when I asked him what his influences are:

V. Nabokov, _Nabokov's Dozen_, a collection of short fiction by the master
C. Dickens, _Great Expectations_ and _David Copperfield_
M. Proust, _Remembrance of Things Past_
J. Carey, _The Horse's Mouth_
W. Gerhardie, _The Polyglots_, and _Doom_, which is the book Roycroft
Squires is reading when William Hastings pops out of the sewer in _Digging
Leviathin_.

Glen, I enjoyed the excerpted Blaylock interview quite a lot. Where could I
find the whole thing? Did you publish it somewhere? Would you be willing to
post it in its entirety if copyright allows?

Thanks.

Brent Jones, Lead Technical Editor, U S WEST Information Technologies
U S WEST sez,"No way, his opinion, not ours!" bjones@denitqm.uswest.com 
CO Amendment 2--discrimination, no question about it.
Disclaimer: Not responsible for the stinking hellpit your life has become.
From: rcr@babbage.u.washington.edu (Rhonda Corcoran)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Darkover Series
Date: 17 Nov 92 16:38:32 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov17.163832.13163
Organization: UW Information Systems

For the past couple of months I have been reading
books in the Darkover series by Marion Zimmer Bradley.
I just finished "City of Sorcery" and was wondering
if there is a follow-up.  Also has anyone read some
of the short stories by various Friends of Darkover?
Can they be recommended?

Thanks!
Rhonda
From: cozzlab@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: First 5 Gor Books okay
Date: 23 Nov 1992 23:47:14 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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In article <4f4Ji7S00iUz86P6Mg@andrew.cmu.edu> db0s+@andrew.cmu.edu (David M. Bartlett) writes:
>
>. . . . [John Norman] needs either some serious help or
>was involved in a (failed) attempt to make people STOP reading his
>books:  ....

No, it's very simple.  He writes what will sell, not what he personally
believes in.

In fact, I am told that (a) he is a professor of philosophy at some
Eastern university; (b) if you praise the Gor books he'll sneer at you
for a clueless barbarian; (c) but if you tell him they're dreck he'll
agree enthusiastically and greet you as a person of taste.
From: griffin@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Zack Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Mote sequel when? (Niven/Pournelle)
Date: 17 Nov 92 07:37:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: mentor.Bxunuq.1u9
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <1e9lfuINNga7@transfer.stratus.com> tarl@sw.stratus.com (Tarl Neustaedter) writes:
>I wonder how many of these followups we'll see? 
>
>> Is there a sequel to THE MOTE IN GOD'S EYE coming?  If so, when?
>
>Yes. Feb 93. The Gripping Hand. Pocket, Hard-Cover.
>
>-- 
>         Tarl Neustaedter	tarl@sw.stratus.com
>         Marlboro, Mass.	Stratus Computer
>Disclaimer: My employer is not responsible for my opinions.

Howdy-

ZT here.

Oh, so they actually came up with a real title.  Niven has been calling it
  _The Moat Around Murcheson's Eye_ for lack of a better title.  Hell, it's
  still a better title, IMHO.

Just for the Record.

                       The Crystal Griffin
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From: elle@kimbark.uchicago.edu (Ellen Keyne Seebacher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,rec.games.frp.misc
Subject: Re: Amber question:  Could Oberon still be alive?
Date: 24 Nov 92 00:37:41 GMT
Reply-To: elle@midway.uchicago.edu
Followup-To: rec.games.frp.misc
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

cmeadows@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chris Meadows) writes:
>You should probably subscribe to the Amber List Server,

Nitpick:  it's an Internet mailing list, not a LISTSERV.

>and I'd give you the address except that I don't have it (and don't
>know the address of the new administrator anyway...).

I do; Cliff Winnig is my partner-in-life _and_ my Amber GM. :) 

Cliff can be reached at oberon-request@amber.uchicago.edu.  Note that
he can only handle subscriptions once a week (on Monday afternoons)
because of the high volume of requests.  (The list itself, I hear, is
now past 21 messages/day, so be warned.)

Helena of Amber, aka:
--                    __
Ellen Keyne Seebacher \/             elle@midway.uchicago.edu
  "Queen Inanna locked herself in her tower, sealing it with a barrier of
   primal chaos.  A note would have been sufficient, but queens are noted 
   for making firm statements."  --Morn, Prince of Chaos
From: rice@ttd.teradyne.com
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Subject: <None>
Date: 22 Nov 92 04:38:55 GMT
Organization: Teradyne Inc., Telecommunications Division

In article <92324.082443JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET>, <JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET> writes:
> most recent in the series just came out.  It's called *Brother Death*
> and the action occurs right after *Black Steel*.  Another highly en-
> tertaining story from Perry, in which he skillfully involves action and
> personnal histories.
>  

Just finished the book. I was a bit disappointed in the ending. It seemed
somewhat abrupt. Everything leading up, was the usual Perry and I was expecting
something akin to an 'epic battle' at the end. Oh well, entertaining it was.

If you like Perry, have you tried Cole & Bunch's Sten Series ?

   John Rice        K9IJ     |  "Did I say that ?" I must have, but It was
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                             |   Not my Employer's....
   rice@ttd.teradyne.com     |   Purveyor of Miracles,Magic and Sleight-of-hand
Xref: sparky rec.arts.sf.written:14981 alt.cyberpunk:5874
From: curtis@cs.berkeley.edu (Curtis Yarvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written,alt.cyberpunk
Subject: Re: Diamond-hard SF
Date: 18 Nov 1992 02:15:01 GMT
Organization: CS Dept. Snakepit - Do Not Feed.
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In article <1992Nov17.130534.20533@yang.earlham.edu> jessec@yang.earlham.edu writes:
>
>   More importantly: why read fiction if it can't tell you anything about 
>what it is to be human? To be alive?

I don't know about you, Jesse, but I already have a pretty good feeling
of what it is to be alive.

Perhaps a little coffee in the morning would do you good?

c
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From: blum@medici.ils.nwu.edu (Dan Blum)
Subject: Re: Summary of Request for SF Bookstores in the USA
Reply-To: blum@ils.nwu.edu
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 01:12:47 GMT

For those who are wondering, the Science Fiction Shop (or _whatever_
the exact name is, I can never remember it) is indeed on Bleecker near
Thomson.  I don't know why I said Sullivan.  It _is_ near Washington
Square, though.  As for the Barbarian Book Shop in Wheaton - they have
mostly used books, and not a huge number of those.  I wouldn't think
it worth trekking out to Wheaton for (although it is quite near the
Metro stop).


--
_____________________________________________________________________
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blum@ils.nwu.edu   1890 Maple Ave., Evanston, IL 60201   708-467-2306

 He thought he saw an Argument
 that proved he was the Pope;
 he looked again and found it was
 a Bar of Mottled Soap.
"A fact so dread,"
 he faintly said,
"extinguishes all hope!"
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From: tombrady@vtcc1.cc.vt.edu (Tom Brady)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Brust, P.J.F., and Cat's Laughing
Date: 22 Nov 92 14:27:00 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech, Blacksburg, Virginia
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <By172z.7o4@rice.edu>, harsh@owlnet.rice.edu (Anish Harshad Masharani) writes...
>Have any of you heard anything by Cat's Laughing?
>It's a group that is supposedly made up of Stephen Brust, Emma Bull, and some
>other folks.

The PJF part has already been explained, so I'll skip that.

Cats Laughing (no apostrophe) is a folk-rock group consisting of 
Steven Brust (drums & percussion), Bill Colsher (electric guitar),
Lojo Russo (bass & vocals), Adam Stemple (guitar & vocals), and
Emma Bull (vocals). They have put out two releases. The first
was an eponymously-titled cassette only release. The songs are:
The Enchantment (vocals: Emma)
Gloomy Sunday (vocals: Lojo - nifty Hungarian-blues song)
Half-Dollar Blues (vocals; Adam)
Facade (vocals: Lojo)
Teller of Tales (vocals: Adam, Lojo, Emma)
The Good Stuff (vocals: lojo)
Back Door (vocals: Adam)
FMera
Signal to Noise (vocals: Emma - lyrics appear in _War For The Oaks_)
FMera (reprise)
More Thumbscrews (vocals: Emma)

Brust wrote "More Thumbscrews" and co-wrote "Teller of Tales" and
"Half-Dollar Blues" with Stemple.
(That one was easy - I have the cassette in front of me)
Their second release was a cassette/CD called "Another Way To
Travel" (cover art by Terri Windling, no less). I don't have
the song list in front of me, but "Wear My Face" and "For It All"
(both appear in _War for the Oaks_) are on there. Also, Boil-in-
Lead'er Robin "Adnan" Anders guests for some more exotic percussion.
Both of these are recommended (although I don't know if the first 
cassette is still available). The music is best described as 
psychadelic-tinged folk-rock. "Another Way..." has a much more
polished sound - evolving out the garage-band stage, I guess.
For more information about Cats Laughing, write to them
in care of SteelDragon Press, Box 7253, Powderhorn Station, 
Minneapolis, MN  55407.  (SteelDragon Press is, of course, the
home of the comic book _Captain Confederacy_, written by Emma's
husband (and talented author himself) Will Shetterly). This is
the most up-to-date information I have on CL, but it is circa 1990.
If anyone knows anything further (new album, new members, etc),
speak up!

Slainte,
Tom
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From: dcb@netcom.com (Dan Brotherton)
Subject: Re: Any idea when sequel to 'Magic of Recluce' will be out?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:11:32 GMT

>Tell me, for those of you who have read it, is it worth it?

I found "The Towers of the Sunset" at B. Daltons. Crown Books couldn't
even find it in their computer!

Over all I was disappointed in the book. Maybe I was expecting a sequel,
but the book just did not have the impact of "The Magic of Reluse"...
which I have read four times.

Actually, my overall impression was that the book was rushed. At any
rate, I'd wait for the paper version.
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From: djdaneh@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes)
Subject: What it is to be alive?
Reply-To: djdaneh@PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 17:18:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.165819.20554@yang.earlham.edu> jessec@yang.earlham.edu writes:

>   Curtis Yarvin (curtis@cs.berkeley.edu) writes:

>>I don't know about you, Jesse, but I already have a pretty good feeling
>>of what it is to be alive.

>   At the risk of appearing to have no operating sarcasm meter, I'll take 
>that seriously for a minute... You think you really understand it? Human 
>experience? We all *live* it, but what *is* it and what on earth does it 
>mean?... These questions aren't answered by simply saying "Well, I am 
>alive, no further explanation needed".  Not to my satisfaction, anyway; 
>and I daresay it shouldn't be to yours.

	...it all depends on what you mean by "understand."
	On a gut level, each of us probably has about as good
	an understanding as is possible of [what intelligence, 
	consciousness, free will, and "I" are], to start with.
	Do you really understand Bach because you have taken
	him apart?  Or did you understand it that time you
	felt the exhilaration in every nerve in your body?
	...probably no one will ever understand the mysteries
	of intelligence and consciousness in an intuitive
	way.  Each of us can understand _people_, and that is
	probably about as close as you can some.
			--Douglas R. Hofstadter
			  GODEL, ESCHER, BACH

Nuff said.


			"You realize, pally, that your gun is
			likely *plugged* with tar an' won't
			fire proper."
				"A logical theory, old friend....step
				closer so that we may experiment."


Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, Net.Roach
My opinions do NOT represent Pacific Bell,
Professional Development, or anyone else.
But I'm willing to share.
From: rr@chem.ucsd.edu (Roxanne Rohmann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: Julian May: Anthology? Sets?
Date: 16 Nov 92 20:58:46 GMT
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In article <1992Nov16.093933.17659@syma.sussex.ac.uk> jasonr@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Jason F Ralph) writes:
 > Does this mean that _Diamond Mask_ and the other one (the title of which
 > eludes me for the moment) are available!?!
 > 
No, only books that have been published, and I'm reasonably sure
that Diamond Mask hasn't been, yet.  Her latest is still the one
called Jack the Bodiless.  Someone, I'm sure, will correct me if
I'm wrong.

   ---Roxanne Rohmann
From: adrian@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Adrian Allan Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.written
Subject: Re: The Wheel of Time Series (spoilers)
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:32:53 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

miles@ms.uky.edu (Stephen D. Grant) writes:
> cpf@alchemy.TN.Cornell.EDU (Courtenay Footman) writes:
> 
> >Spoilers!
> 
> 
> >In article <1992Nov11.210117.5326@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:
> >>mlebrun@bss2.umd.edu (Mike Lebrun):
> >>>First, Rand and Galad are brothers.  All of the evidence is available, but 
> >>>scattered through the first four books.  
> >>
> >>No.  Rand is Elayne's and Gawyn's cousin on the mother's side:  Morgase
> >>was closest to the throne when Rand's mother disappeared without leaving
> >>a daughter.  Galad shares Elayne's and Gawyn's *father*, who is not
> >>presumed to be closely related to Tigraine.
> >First, a question:  where is the relation between Morgase and Tigraine
> >stated?  I have been trying to find this, and failing.
> 
> >Second -- Galad's father, Taringil Damodred, was Tigraine's first
> >husband.  Thus Galad and Rand are half-brothers.
> 
> Wrong. Rand's father was an Aiel. Where else would he get his Aiel appearance
> and be able to go through the Aiel history. It was stated that He Who Comes
> With The Dawn will be born of a Maiden of the Spear, born of the old blood
> and raised by the ancient blood, or something like that. 
> But it is clearly stated Rand's father is an Aiel.
> 
Wrong.  I just read this part as Rand was entering Rhudiean(sp).  Rand says
that his father is Aiel, but one of the Wise Ones (I think Amys) tells him
that he is wrong and that his mother was an Aiel.
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From: jcmorris@mwunix.mitre.org (Joe Morris)
Subject: Re: Edward E. Smith, Ph.D?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:13:07 GMT

cozzlab@garnet.berkeley.edu () writes:

>In article <1992Nov18.162922.14196@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> fong_jh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Julian H Fong) writes:
>>	A quick question: In what subject did E. E. "Doc" Smith get his
>>doctorate?

>Chemistry.  He spent most of his working life developing new and better
>baking powders for (I think) Nabisco.

I've seen somewhere that the WWII section of _Triplanetary_ was a 
thinly-disguised autobiography.

Joe Morris / MITRE
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From: otto@vaxb.acs.unt.edu (M. Otto, "Virtual Prisoner of the VAX")
Subject: Re: Plot Identification?
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:08:28 GMT

In article <1e4u8uINN6ab@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>,
 cc697@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Eric Oppen) writes:

[ About "The Road Not Taken" ]

> It was written by Harry Turtledove, and appears in one of Pournelle's
> anthologies.  There is a sequel, called "Herbig-Haro" that takes place
> after the Earthmen have gotten ahold of the stardrive and burst off Earth
> like angry gods.  It's in another of Pournelle's anthologies, but I don't
> know which ones.

Both were published in _Analog_ in the mid eighties.  "Herbig-Haro" appeared
at least a year before "Road," under Turtledove's pen name 'Eric G. Iverson.'

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Subject: Looking for Steve Perry/Matador fans!Hi!  For those of you who are fans of Perry's Matador books, the
From: <JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET>
Date: Thursday, 19 Nov 1992 08:24:42 EST
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

most recent in the series just came out.  It's called *Brother Death*
and the action occurs right after *Black Steel*.  Another highly en-
tertaining story from Perry, in which he skillfully involves action and
personnal histories.
 
     I haven't seen a lot of discussion about Perry's works here in
rasfw, which surprises me.  If there are any other Matador fans out
there, drop me a line and maybe we can get a newsgroup going to talk
about his books.  If interested, just e-mail or post.  Thanks!
 
 
 
                                                   Jim
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