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From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov (Jim Wylde Heavy Metal Homo)
Subject: Re: Thank you
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:03:15 GMT

>>Jim Wylde uses the phrase:
>> reason #9,863 for a woman to never even want contact with a het. male.
>
>
>... but what is the
>deal with all the het.male bashing going on here?  I realize there is
>considerable bitterness among the male homosexual population (as well
>there should be), but is it necessary to denigrate all heterosexual males
>as a response?
>
>At the risk of starting a pointless flamewar, I will suggest that if the
>phrase above were insulting to a homosexual male rather than a
>heterosexual male, there would be rampant, justified cries of "HOMOPHOBE!"
>Dare I suggest that I am beginning to detect "heterophobia" here?

Huh???

Dude!!  Take a pill and chill out!!  Your taking this entirely outta
context!  You seem to keep picking up on one or two words and missing
the entire jist of the conversation. 

I ain't picking on you, or the entire heterosexual population of the 
world.  Just on one (count em) ONE ignorant, pain-in-the-ass pig
who happened to open his mouth up and direly needed a foot shoved in it!

You seem to be a bit extra sensitive today, so I'll try and explain what
was actually and fully meant by the aforementioned reason #8,963 why
a woman to never even want contact with a het male.....

Around these parts, it is a common joke, when a person of the opposite
sex walks by who is predominately UGLY in the terminal sense, to mutter
`there goes reason #_____ to be gay!'  While it's not necessarily in 
good taste, it's a JOKE.  I'm sure you straights have similar things,
so I hope you can relate the humor in it.

I simply took this joke, and related it to the many, many, many straight
men who, as is often seen on the news, and in the papers, make a habit
of continually being a serious nusance and pain to women (sexually and
otherwise).  If you happen to listen to many women nowadays, they usually
have experienced at least one of these types in thier life, and he usually
is kinda similar to our fag-bashing friend here.  Women seem to find
this type a very big turn off, and hearing them swear that they will
never want to deal with another man again is kinda common.  In blunt 
terms, I was implying that there are thousands of these assholes in 
existance, and that he was one of them.

Cheez!  I'm getting Carpal Tunnel Syndrome from all this typing....
'cmon.  Lighten up a bit!

Jim
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 21:23:55 EST
From: <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Reasoning of Homos?????
 <92320.141838LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> <1992Nov15.213423.27484@netcom.com>

> Yeah don't you wish

Yeah and I KNOW you wish you were at the end of my 1 foot d__k, but da LoNg-MaN
don't do dat gay thang.


             --==LoNg-MaN  aka  lOnG-mAn==--
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: jbibb@eng.auburn.edu (John S. Bibb)
Subject: Re: Reasoning of Homos?????
Reply-To: jbibb@eng.auburn.edu
Organization: Auburn University Engineering
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 17:17:52 GMT

In article 14224@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu, prpeterson@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu () writes:
> I have a very simple question...what makes homos attracted to their own sex 
> over that of the other sex?  What psychotic problem is this labeled as?
> 
> If anybody has any comments, please email me.
> 
> Paul4
> a gay basher
> 


In even more simple terms....what makes hetro's attracted to the opposite sex?  What
psychotic problem is this labled as?


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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 14:28:36 EST
From: <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: One bored "het.boy"

Well guess I proved my point.  GaRead Gary Sanders post (I think he is not 100%
het.) about reverse bigotry.  I posted some of my previous insulting comments (
some I thought were very humorous) to see if I could prove my point that homo's
are just as a bigot group as us hets.  You guys were very compliant.  I know if
I were a homo and read some of my posts, I would certaintly not reply with such
bigoted remarks, but rather with witty, humorous, informative, etc. to show het
s that you are not affected by what others think.   I thought if I got some coo
l replys or combacks from some homos It would change my opinion a little bit, b
ut they were lamer than the ones I got from the Trekkie net, thats bad.  So *ya
wn* I'll leave you gays alone (for awhile) because ya all are taking up to much
space on my e-mail.  But while I'm gone, pleez work on your comebacks..........

   I'LL BE BACK  ==-------da LOng-Man----------->





Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov (Jim Wylde)
Subject: re: Mourning
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 23:09:02 GMT

I feel for you man.  Unfortunately, there isn't anything you can
do to "prepare" yourself for anyones death.  It's gonna hurt no
matter what.  I think just about everybody here has lost at least
one friend from AIDS.

The only things I can really offer are as follows:

Don't treat your friend any different than you would have otherwise.

But try to live each day with him like it's gonna be his last, 'cause
even though you "know" it's gonna be soon, you still don't really
know when (or if) it will.

Make as many 'good times' as you can, so you have more to look back
on.  You sound like he has been your friend for a long time, so
that shouldn't be a problem.

Get used to crying.

Don't EVER abandon him.  EVER!

Try to keep a positive outlook, and encourage him to do the same.
Attitude has a lot to do with survival.  Don't just let him curl
up and die.

Can't think of anything else.  If you need someone to talk to,
e-mail me at gateway::"nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov"

Jim
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 19 Nov 1992 02:23:13 MST
From: <ASPDL@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: One bored "het.boy"
 <1992Nov17.184219.15114@mcs.anl.gov>

Interesting poem, Jim.  I think it has given me some understanding of gays
which I had previoulsy not had.  I think it is customary for us .hets to offer
the standard "I'm not gay" disclaimer when we read and post to groups like
this.  Why?  In my own case, because I see the shit you put up with, and I
don't want that dumped on me by such jerks as long dong.  (yea, go fuck
yourself, bigot.  Just because I am trying to understand these people who are
my brothers and sisters doesn't mean I am one of them.)  I must confess that I
do have some homophobia of my own.  Why?  I honestly cannot answer.  Why am I
bothered by a black man on a dark street at night...  it's the way I was
raised, I guess.  I was wondering about continuing to read this group, because
all of the informative posts which taught me something were being replaced
with these flame wars...   your poem, Jim, has changed my mind...   for now..


Just one .het's opinion

          Patrick
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov (Jim Wylde Metal Fag)
Subject: Re: One bored "het.boy"
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:42:19 GMT

Oh, before I forget....  I started to dig this up for Long
Dong.  It's my remembrance of a little peice I wrote on a
wall when we experienced a serious rash of fag bashing at
UIC.  There's a looonnngg story with it, and I'm not gonna
get into it now.

I'm sure Longie boys listening.

Hey Straight boy!
Why are you so afraid of me?
Do  you know what it's like to be gay?
Do you know how it feels to hold a man in your arms?
Or to give head?
Or to feel the scruff-stubble of 5 O'clock shadow on your cheek?

I am NOT here to corrupt you or your brother.
I AM your brother, you cousin, your father
Your boss, your teacher.
You flock to me to hear me act and sing and play my music.
you drive to see my paintings in cars I designed.
You eat in resturants and go to clubs I own.

I didn't come here bearing Ill Will, I only seek friendship
and acceptance.  I ask only for the right to love whom I
choose in ways only I know.  I am only who I am, nothing
more, and I cannot change myself any more than you can 
change you skin, or your eyes.

You say I am evil and hurtful and sinful, yet you're 
the one with the baseball bat.  Yet you sit here and 
berate and belittle me with no regard for my feelings, and
expect me to sit here idlely and take your abuse.  

Well, guess what.  

Now this faggots pissed and in your face!
Deal with it!

The revolution will not be televised!



Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: ssturgis@netcom.com (Scott Sturgis)
Subject: Re: Reasoning of Homos?????
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 04:06:55 GMT

In article <92320.212355LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>> Yeah don't you wish
>
>Yeah and I KNOW you wish you were at the end of my 1 foot d__k, but da LoNg-MaN
>don't do dat gay thang.
>
>
>             --==LoNg-MaN  aka  lOnG-mAn==--

Yeah yeah so tell us something new .. you must like us or you wouldn't be
here. Tell me why do you want to waste a part of your life fooling with
something you don't understand? 

Did you say your dick is a foot long? Good you don't need us to fuck you
then .. you can go fuck yourself/

Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: c1dje@watson.ibm.com (David Edelsohn)
Subject: Re: Change of pace
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 21:30:07 GMT
Reply-To: c1dje@tweetie (David Edelsohn)
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM T.J. Watson Research Center

	I was presently surprised that the producers of "This Week with
David Brinkley" were unable to get any current military official such as
Dick Cheney or even Colin Powell to defend the present policy.
Unfortunately (or fortunately :^) the only person they could find to
strongly defend the policy was the older retired officer who came across as
a complete bigot.  The younger retired Admiral from the Joint Chiefs of
Staff held a much more rational and coherent discussion, though as a
previous poster said, he tried to frame it as poor public relations and
problems with disgruntled servicemen using the 1-800 hotline for vengence
by accusing someone of homosexuality.
	I thought that the program clearly presented the problem with many
members of the U.S. public who cannot distinguish between a person's innate
sexual orientation and the way that someone expresses their sexual
orientation; they cannot recognize the difference between an essential
characteristic and conduct.  Sexual harassment is sexual harassment is
sexual harassment and the U.S. Armed Forces need to focus on that without
differentiating among sexual orientations.
	I was somewhat disappointed that the discussion never considered
how to implement a recinding of the ban, such as the famous separate units
and quarters because shower stall and toilet stall separators are such a
difficult concept to understand.
	More disturbing was Senator Sam Nunn's public comments supporting
the ban.  I expect that sort of stupidity from Senator Bob Dole but I
thought that Nunn's comments unnecessarily undermined his own party's
President-elect.  What was the point?  That sure isn't going to win him
brownie-points in the Secretary of Defense race.

					David
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Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov (Jim Wylde - Metal Fag)
Subject: re: Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual/Friends BBS in Midwest
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 15:09:03 GMT

In article  "Shane A. Johns"  writes:

>Hello all.  I am running a Gay/Lesbian/Bisexual BBS and am in need of
>some callers.  We have tons of .gif and .jpg files for your viewing
>pleasures, as well as on-line games, and such.  If you are game, and
>are sick of high file-transfer credit ratios, give us a call at
>812-857-0069.  You will need a modem and some kind of personal computer
>to access this BBS.  And, if you are calling Long Distance, upon 
>voice-verification via. collect call, you will be given a credit-free
>account -- ie. no worry about uploading files.

Hiya Shane!

No Sweat!  You posted in the right place!!  My roomate runs Risqilly BBS
here in Chicago (Formerly Connecticuts oldest gay bbs) and publishes the
International Gay and Lesbian BBS List.  I gave him your number, and your
being added to the ranks now!

TTFN!

Jim Wylde (aka Elfin)
From: nasiatka@anhep3.anl.gov (Jim Wylde - Metal Fag)
Subject: Change of pace
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory, Argonne, Illinois
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:48:02 GMT

Just outta curiosity, did anyone watch This Week with 
David Brinkley on ABC this last Sunday?

They had a really cool peice on gays/lesbians in the
military, and I thought it was very well done...

Anyone else se it?

Kiss me
		Kick me
				Fuck me!


Jim
From: ST402341@brownvm.brown.edu (Gary Byma)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Reasoning with homophobes?? (was: Re: Reas
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 15:36:34 EST
Organization: Brown University - Providence, Rhode Island  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: brownvm.brown.edu
News-Software: BNN via BNN_POST v1.0 beta

In article <1ebr44INN6bg@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, stephen@orchid.UCSC.EDU (x4604
(Hauskins)) said:
>
>In article <1e9oo5INN3io@cat.cis.Brown.EDU> ST402341@brownvm.brown.edu (Gary
>Byma) writes:
>>In article <1992Nov16.191127.5469@samba.oit.unc.edu>,
>>Gary.Saunders@launchpad.unc.edu (Gary Saunders) said:
>>
>>>"All gay men like anal sex."
>>
>>Okay, you score one right so far.
>>
>
>Whoa!!! are you saying that ALL gay men like anal sex?  I don't think so,
>I have met many gay men who do not like it either way.  I don't care for it
>myself.  So don't make a blanket statment like this, it is not logical.

Nope. I do not believe that all gay men like anal sex. In fact, the
context of Gary Saunders article to which I replied stated that this
statement was one of those over-generalizations that he believed
populated this newsgroup. I agreed with him that this was a myth.
I should have been much more precise in my wording and not relied
on people's memories of the context of the original post. My
apologies.

Gary Byma
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: mukherjb@dsuvax.dsu.edu (Basu Mukherjee)
Subject: Need help to argue for gays in the military
Organization: Dakota State University, Madison, SD
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:02:03 GMT

Hi , I am going to write in our college newspaper in favor of
admitting gays in the military. Can any of you send me some
facts substantiating and arguing for that?

I need it fast.

appreciate any help.

Mukherjee
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve
From: jkusters@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chrome Jester)
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 02:23:09 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

6tate_a@spcvxb.spc.edu divulges:
->Do you think you were born this way and if so did you have hetero-relations 
->before you decided to act on your feelings?

From as far ababack as I can remember, any sexual feelings I have had have
ALWAYS been towards members of my own sex.  The earliest sexual thoughts
that I can remember were from age 11 or so, and they involved men.  I have
never in my memory ever had an erotic thought about women.  That's just the
way I am.  But then again, I'm not everyone.  Everyone is different.  If you
ask this question of 50 different people, you're going to get 50 different
answers...

->Can you be homosexual without actually indulging in the sex?

Well, it was not until I was 26 before I had any sexual relations of any
kind (yes, I was a 26 year old virgin).  But I've been gay for much longer
than that.  I knew I was gay at age 14 (took me a few years to figure out
that I was that much different than the general population, and a couple
more years to find a label for it...).  So, the answer (in my case) is yes.

->What are you going to tell God when you stand before him?

Well, if I believed in such a concept (I don't), I'd ask "Him" why he made
me this way, and why he made people hate me for what I am, not something I
had any control over...

->	I'm not preaching but I do beleive that there is going to come a time 
->when you are going to have to stand before God and explain your actions and 
->he's going to cast you right into hell.  God made Adam and Eve not Adam and 
->Steve!  

I wonder why you care?

JOhn.

-- 
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From: mxc1059@usl.edu (Carroll Matthew)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: NAMBLA
Date: 21 Nov 92 05:06:28 GMT
Organization: University of Southwestern Louisiana

I would also like info on NAMBLA

anyone out there a member?
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: eagle@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Daniel L'Hommedieu)
Subject: Professional translator, where are you?
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 14:38:57 GMT

A few weeks ago, I was corresponding with a professional translator.
You know who you are.  Please resond to this mail, as I have something
else that I want to bring up regarding the discussion we were having.

Thank you.

Daniel
--
Daniel L'Hommedieu / Junior, CSC Depatment, NCSU / eagle@catt.ncsu.edu
From: Rec.humor.funny:				   "Ich bin ein Adler"
      My unique solution to two of the world's problems:
      "Feed the Homeless to the Hungry"
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Reasoning of Homos?????
From: jkusters@zeus.calpoly.edu (Chrome Jester)
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 18:50:01 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

So, can anyone tell me how long PSU has been giving accounts to high school
students?

JOhn.

-- 
/-John A Kusters, jr.--------------------------------------------------- ______
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Silence keeps us all in darkness, We can't change things overnight;       \  /
But we can shed a little light, Be Political not Polite! -Romanovsky & Phillips
From: cddukes@c00013-118dan.eos.ncsu.edu (PakRat's Anonymous)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:48:01 GMT
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos

In article <1992Nov20.160006.4494@spcvxb.spc.edu> 6tate_a@spcvxb.spc.edu writes:
>	I'm not preaching but I do beleive that there is going to come a time 
>when you are going to have to stand before God and explain your actions and 
>he's going to cast you right into hell.  God made Adam and Eve not Adam and 
>Steve!  

I hate to say this... but some of us have found that if we subscribe to that
dogma we are pretty much going to hell anyways.  Even if I do NONE of the things
that the fundy on campus says are sins... Even if I follow leviticus, deuteronomy
and the new testament to the T... I'm still going to hell because of a few things
that aren't my fault.  Even with repenting... I can't make it because it's
damned difficult to repent for something you didn't do.

So I just believe that your narrow minded view of &deity is wrong.

Chris "the PakRat" Dukes______________________________cddukes@eos.ncsu.edu
FIRST MADMAN: Come on, sir, I will lay the law to you.
SECOND MADMAN: Oh, rather lay a corrosive: the law will eat to the bone.
PGP key available upon request
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
From: fjvwing@cs.vu.nl (FJ!!)
Subject: Re: attitude
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 19:33:25 GMT

<MGH110@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>the homosexual population(a generalization) 
			   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
You bet.

>I have been noticing that no ma
>tter how accepting you are, homosexuals(not acquainted with) tend to group all
>hetero's in the intolerant and biggot category. 

Maybe you are not as tolerant as you think, or don't come across as
tolerant as you think you are. This is usually a very real
possibility.

Maybe you also don't know what we have to put with on a daily basis,
for years and years. Nuance gets lost after your third death-threat,
and guess what, they didn't come from open gays.

>Doesn't this seem familiar?
>Is it fair or right to do what is done to you to someone who isn't doing it
>to you?

(Yeah, lets talk fair.) What, they are bashing you? Oh, they are
calling you 'breeder' on the street. Or is it that they are firing you
from your job? Throwing you out of the house? What exactly are 'they'
doing to you that is done unto them? Not trusting you? Guess what, we
don't want to get burnt.
							FJ!!
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:58:09 EST
From: <JBF101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve

As a gay man who has decided to stick with Christianity despite what many
Christians believe about homosexuals, I find the constant bickering between
those who would condemn us to Hell and thosewho would condemn religion com-
pletely quite tiresome.  The Church's interpretation of Christian morality has
been wrong before; this is why we've had things such as crusades and inquisi-
tions.  As the Church gave up any justification of slavery a century ago, the
time hascome for it to lift its ban on homosexual relationships.  I do not
believe, however, that Gods laws are changeable; it is the Churchs interpreta-
tion of them that has been wrong.

To those who view God and religion as merely some supernatural means of oppres-
sion, fundamentalist zealots are no more representative of Christians than drag
queens are of homosexuals.  In condemning God, you only increase the pain of
your gay and lesbian brothers and sisters who spent much of their lives feeling
that no matter how they expressed themselves sexually, they would always be
committing an abomination in the eyes of God.  As those who preach family val-
ues divide America, you too create an unnecessary dichotomy between a healthy
spiritual life and a healthy sex life.

Can we please stop all this useless bickering?

Doug Hayes
Penn State University
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 14:18:38 EST
From: <LXP111@psuvm.psu.edu> (Your worst Nightmare)
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual
Subject: Re: Reasoning of Homos?????

I think it is a type of undetecle disease which originated in San Fransico thth
at attacks the hormone producing glands, which causes them to produce "gay" hor
mones.. heh heh heh.  So, I am in the process of finding a cure for this deadly
disease that could destroy the human race.  But for now, the only medicine I ca
n prescribe for you gay guys is a really gorgeous horny woman(tranvestites don'
t count).  I must now go and continue my research that will win me one of those
neat Nobel prizes and get me on the Howard Stern Show..oops I forgot it was can
celled.  Oh well the Nobel will do....


         --==LoNG-Man  aka  lOng-mAN==--
Newsgroups: alt.homosexual