From: megazone@obsidian.WPI.EDU (MegaZone23)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Streamline dubs, and Carl bashing
Date: 14 Dec 1992 10:16:12 GMT
Organization: WPI USAF -- United Society of Animation Fans
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In article <Bz5EJv.IBp@jrd.dec.com> doi@jrd.dec.com writes:
>   Simply, if any professional translating company gets the rights to a
>film or show, the fan translations and summaries for it will immediately
>be pulled from the net, and reliable tape traders will drop it from their

Wrong... I know of many tape traders, and some stores, that carry copies of
anime that is now licensed in the US. This is NOT the official translation, but
rather a fan sub that was done apart from the licensed version. I see this less
with AnimEigo's tapes since they do good work, but most of the tapes Streamline
has are available from fans... And MANY FTP site, including mine, carry scripts
for shows now out in the US... Why? Because the Japanese version is still out
there and there is still a demand for scripts. I will not carry a script lifted
directly from a licensed dub, but I will carry fan scripts that are done 
seperately. (Unfortunately I have ~10Megs of stuff already and only 6.5Megs for
my site... The rest I keep off line on DAT)

I don't view this as decreasing business at all. In fact I purchased all of
AnimEigo's BGC after obtaining copies of the original Japanese version and I
have old fan scripts in my site... After watching and reading I decided I 
wanted to own the subs...

>lists.  Any new fan coming into anime fandom at this point probably will
>NOT be able to get his/her hands on that fan translation now.  And, most

Not true... I can still get things that the government has 'banned' or at least
heavily disfavored. It's like chain letters. I don't know a single sysop that
likes chain letters, or that doesn't forbid them from their system... And I 
still get a few every year. (And if I don't know you I send them to my sysop
for action... so don't send them...) I have the pyro files on my DAT, and I've
sent them to people who request them... If you ask in the right places you'll
probably find someone with the goods you want... Works in life and on the nets.

>   Therefore, if Streamline gets a film, not only will the fan scripts,
>and existing subbed versions distributed by tape traders, disappear --
>but you probably won't see anyone else subbing that film ever in the

Actually, several fans have revolted against Streamline and are deliberately
making scripts and subs of his work. Anything to undercut his business.

>future.  (The only exception that I know is _Windaria_ vs _Once Upon a
>Time_.)  On top of which, Streamline has been buying up the rights to

As far as I know both of those are the same thing rereleased now that Carl
has the rights. BUt still hacked.

While I agree that I'd like to see USMC, USR, and AE drop their tape prices, 
the lower the price the more I can buy, I still prefer quality over quantity.
Although I personally know several people who love AnimEigo's BGC, but just
don't have the money to buy the set at the current prices. They just borrow
mine alot...
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