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From: fease@dkas.enet.dec.com (Andrea Midtmoen Fease)
Subject: Re: Incubating chicken eggs
Organization: Digital Equipment Corp., Marlboro MA
Distribution: usa
Date:  4 JAN 93 09:14:07    


In article <1992Dec30.230920.7579@wam.umd.edu>, hibanez@wam.umd.edu (guzman) writes...
>hello...
> 
>I am interested in incubating chicken eggs.  I don't want to buy
> 
>an incubator or anything like that.  Is there a way where I can
>use a light bulb or something?  Please respond directly to 
>me at hibanez@wam.umd.edu
> 
>thanks.
> 
> 
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>lars		       hibanez@wam.umd.edu
>UofMD at CP	       standard disclaimer

     I don't remember the exact particulars of incubating eggs (my books are
home).  But I do know that you need to turn the eggs twice a day, and that the
temperature needs to be constant and high (maybe around 100F or so? - again 
I'll have to look it up).  Also, there must be a certain amount of humidity
for the embryos to develop properly.  Really, what you're doing is trying to
imitate momma hen.

     We have a small chicken farm, but we buy day-old chicks.  Since we want
only females, we buy day-old pullets and that way have no need to weed out the
roosters.  For us, it would be too difficult to incubate the eggs, sex the
tiny birds (can be tricky) and then find some home/farm/whatever for the 
roosters (we only have layers).

     There are inexpensive incubators around if you really want to watch the
"miracle of birth".  Agway, here in Mass., has a small incubator that holds 
about 8 eggs for around $30.  

					- Andrea
From: dougnews@access.digex.com (Doug Humphrey)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Help!!! My parrot bites/squawks!
Date: 4 Jan 1993 08:18:13 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
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In article <1i8p5aINN9v2@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn) writes:


I can't help on the bites and noise, but on giving
the birdo a bath, I find that using a blow dryer will
allow you to dry the bird down very quickly, and keep
them from getting chilled.  I find that the dryer on a 
medium fan, hot temp, and held a good two feet or so 
away works pretty well.  With an Umbrella Cockatoo at least, 
this is a two person job, one with the bird sitting on 
their shoulder and the other with the dryer.  The key is
to put your hand next to the bird and get the temperature 
right by changes in the distance from the blow dryer.  You 
want it nice and warm, 'cause the birds like it that way,
but not too hot for your finger or them.  Too hot is obviously
bad, and not hot enough means that the evaporative cooling 
will chill them quickly.  Still, this way you are there the 
whole time, and can control the situation, while if you leave
the house with the bird all wet you (at least I) tend to worry 
all day about it.

The Cockatoo in question spreads her wings, points into the 
"wind" and seems to have a great time pretending to fly.  She
certainly likes the blow drying even more than the bath!

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: jackie8@dasher.cc.bellcore.com ()
Subject: Parakeet Questions
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 20:20:59 GMT

Hi.  I'm new to this group.  I was looking for a little
helpful advice and thought this would be a good place to get
it.

My parakeet, Gee LaFleur, died the Sunday before Christmas. 
He was a christmas gift from my husband four years ago).
He was the best parakeet I ever had.  I've had 6 parakeets
through my life, and Gee was the first one who died where I
had to deal with it.  My parents always made sure they took
care of everything when my others either flew the coop or died.
This was the most heart wrenching thing I ever had to go through,
pet-wise. I didn't feel like I could do anything for my poor
little bird.  Whoops. I'm getting off my original point.

My question is I would like to get another bird ('keet) but I haven't
really been in a rush to do it.  When I do get around to buying another
one, I want to know the best way I can train the bird to be friendly
and not get all excited when my hand goes in there. Gee was the calmest
bird I've had, he never flew around (except for the vacuuming days!:) ).
I've always been afraid of getting bitten by my birds and I had a lot
more gall when I was younger.

I'm looking for any tips,etc., on training my future new bird (and
me, too!) and how can I make the transition for a new bird easier
adjusting to his home. I don't want to scare him too much.

Two other questions:
Is it recommended on getting a new cage since Gee passed on in this one?
and
How can you tell a boy bird from a girl bird?

I'm not too technical with birds. To me they're companions and pets,
but lovable all the same. But I would love to play with my new bird
and have him do tricks and a few more whistles and stuff.

Any suggestions, etc., are welcome. Post or email.

And for those of you who are interested, my bird was named after
Guy LeFluer, the former NY Ranger Hockey player. Gee is pronounced
with the "gah" sound as opposed to "gee your hair smells terrific"
way.)   :-) :-) :-)

Sorry for such a long post.  You people seem so nice I didn't think
you'd mind me asking. :-)
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: pepke@scri.fsu.edu (Eric Pepke)
Subject: Re: Favorite snacks?
Organization: Florida State University, but I don't speak for them
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 19:00:18 GMT

After reading that hot peppers evolved their hotness as a bird lure, I 
tried out some fresh hot peppers on my girlfriend's budgie.  He loves 
them.  His favorites seem to be the little skinny Thai hot peppers.  He 
likes Scotch Bonnet's as well, but he is somewhat bewildered by their size 
and shape.  I have to take a bite first to show him that it is for the purpose
of eating rather than a conversation.  Hot peppers are, I'm sure, very good 
for him because they have lots of vitamins.

Eric Pepke                                    INTERNET: pepke@scri.fsu.edu
Supercomputer Computations Research Institute MFENET:   pepke@fsu
Florida State University                      SPAN:     scri::pepke
Tallahassee, FL 32306-4052                    BITNET:   pepke@fsu

Disclaimer: My employers seldom even LISTEN to my opinions.
Meta-disclaimer: Any society that needs disclaimers has too many lawyers.
From: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Speaking of crows...
Date: 8 Jan 1993 16:37:12 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: au500@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Linda Zinn)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I was recently with a group of people who shooed a cat away from a
sparrow. The little guy seemed ok but was disoriented and walking
down the center of the street. When a car approached, three crows
ran up to the sparrow and guided it off the street and into some
bushes, where they left it.

At first I thought the crows were out to attack the smaller bird,
but once it was safe in the shrubbery, they flew away. Has anyone
seen similar behavior? Are crows considered relatively intelligent,
as birds go?
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From: roberts@studguppy.lanl.gov (Doug Roberts)
Subject: Re: Who's Earl Grey anyway?
Organization: Technology Modeling and Analysis, LANL-A7
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:28:13 GMT


In article <1993Jan7.165804.9700@iscsvax.uni.edu> minehart@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

> Why?  I've never heard of an Earl Grey.  

Earl Grey Tea. A perfumed black tea.

--Doug
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From: bmartino@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Bob Martino)
Subject: Re: Speaking of crows...
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:32:04 GMT

Reminds me of a story about a zoo here in Ohio.

It seems that the water used for the zoo animals was not as pure as
the law required.  This water, BTW, was the normal city water used
by countless H. Sapiens on a daily basis.  So.  Because the animals
were in some sort of danger of being harmed by the water, some animal
welfare folks were going to destroy the animals in order to protect
them from the unhealthy water (which the animal welefare people drank
themselves).

True story.  I'm sketchy on the details at this late date.  The
animals were saved due to last minute installation of special
water purifiers.

Fact is stranger than common sense.

_________________________________________________________________________
                                    | "...for since the creation of the
      - that Bob Martino guy -      |  world His invisible attributes,
 bmartino@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu |  His eternal power and divine
                                    |  nature, have been clearly seen,
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: Manjit_Bedi@mindlink.bc.ca (Manjit Bedi)
Subject: Single Budgies (was Re: Parakeet Questions   )
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 07:03:42 GMT

In my family we have had single Budgies at a time.  First we had started out
with a pair but then one died and so on.

Right now we have a single Budgie and I have wondered about getting him a
freind.
But we do let him out of spacious cage made from bamboo (no worries about
him knawing through it because the door is always open).  He has the fly
of the house and does seem quite content to chirp from high atop of hanging
planters as he looks done on us.  He does get plenty of attention from
my mother.  But I would in the future probably get a pair. The downfall
that I have heard about having a pair is that they might not take much
interest in us humans.
--
        Manjit Bedi
                ( Manjit_Bedi@mindlink.bc.ca or manjit@inde.bc.ca )

Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Thursday, 7 Jan 1993 15:28:09 EST
From: Laura Kittleson <LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: Birds alone during the day?
Distribution: na

My dove is alone during the day, and my parents' dove is often
alone during the day.  Both birds have the run of their respective
houses, and both seem to have favorite places for various times
of the day: the Go-Sit-And-Wake-Up-and-Digest-Breakfast Spot, the
Mid-Morning-Toast-in-the-Sunlight Spot, the Afternoon-Nap Spot, etc.
They seem to have their own little routines.

My mom and I notice, each with our own bird, that they are a little
quiet when we come home sometimes.  To anthropomorphize, they seem
a bit sluggish and bored when the People get back, like when you
find your significant other snoozing on the couch.  But after a
while, and after some quality time visiting (this can be helping
me put away the groceries I've just dragged in or something like
that), the bird is back to his usual nosy busy self.

They adjust.

Does your bird have toys or mirrors or something interesting to
play with while you're gone?

Laura "stop picking the seeds off my dinner roll" Kittleson
laura@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: mnoeske@SU12K.Harris-ATD.com (Mike Noeske x4143)
Subject: Re: NEED FEATHERS-HAVE ADDRESS
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:55:03 GMT
Organization: Advanced Technology Dept, Harris Corp, Melbourne, FL

ok, i should have included this with my originale posting when
i was asking for feathers.

  Mike Noeske
  940 Penelope Ave NE
  Palm Bay, Florida 32907

our zoo is still under construction and no peacocks wander around
in this little city. pet stores have all been hit up.

thanx in advance....Mike Noeske....e-mail mnoeske@su1b.ess.harris.com
From: sylanov@math.ohio-state.edu (Christine V Sylanov)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: 'Tiel Nostril Problem
Date: 11 Jan 1993 08:45:19 -0500
Organization: Department of Mathematics, The Ohio State University
Distribution: world
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	My 7-year old 'tiel has never been sick (as far as I
	know), so this sort of thing is new to me.  On Saturday,
	one of her nostrils appeared to be "closed up"-i.e.,
	there is some sort of stuff covering it.  It isn't
	swollen or discolored, that I can see anyway.
	She seems to be as perky as usual, and she's eating
	alright.

	Should I make a bee-line for the vet's?

	Thanks (yet again),

	Christine Sylanov

-- 
	Christine Sylanov	sylanov@function.mps.ohio-state.edu 

	I keep quite busy just trying to conceal the fact that
	   I don't know what I'm doing.     A. Brilliant
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: slendt@unomaha.edu (Steven Lendt)
Subject: Re: Birdie Interaction
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:03:23 GMT

In article <9301060953.PN18601@LL.MIT.EDU> lind@ll.mit.edu (Tom Lind) writes:
>From: lind@ll.mit.edu (Tom Lind)
>Subject: Birdie Interaction
>Date: 6 Jan 93 14:53:55 GMT
>Hi,  We have a question for the net about our red-shouldered macaw (18 mo)
>and our blue-fronted amazon (6 mo.)  They seem fine together as long as
>they can't get to each other, but last night they were on top of their
>respective cages which are about 12 inches apart and they both went down
>the sides and started to beak fight and, before we could get to them, the
>macaw (half the size of the amazon) grabbed the amazon's beak and threw her
>to the floor.  We were a little upset that we let this happen (normally
>only the amazon plays on her cage top play area) and about the quickness of
>the situation (about 10 seconds.)  Neither bird seemed hurt and we played
>with them for about 30 minutes to be as certain of this as we could.
>
>What we would like to know is this: will they ever be able to be out on a
>play area together or will they have to be kept apart and observed when
>they are both out?
>
You should move their cages further apart.  Birds are often protective
of their 'nest' area.  They might to better in a neutral area like
the top of a play area.

>e-mail is preferred, but I do read this group every day.  Thanks much...
>
>Tom...
>
>Thomas A. Lind  < lind@ll.mit.edu >   |   Work Hard, tell everyone every-
>Electrooptical Devices Group          |   thing you know, close a deal
>MIT Lincoln Lab                       |   with a handshake, and HAVE FUN.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: ammg2052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Aaron M. Moy)
Subject: RE: Transporting Quaker
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:20:05 GMT

	I believe Quakers are illegal to keep as pets in Pennsylvania and
	California (maybe others too).  However, I doubt most law enforcement
	officials in those states know this, or even what a Quaker looks
	like.  Good Luck.

Aaron Moy
ammg2052@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu			Was that the phone...
"The Baby's Nest" Hand-Fed Birds		or the bird???
Urbana, Illinois
(217) 328-1838
From: prkenne@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (CAROL SHARP)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Subject: Re: NEED FEATHERS
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:04:00 GMT
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1993Jan7.155354.4182@mlb.semi.harris.com>, mnoeske@SU1AC.Harris-ATD.com (Mike Noeske x4143) writes...
>hello fellow birdowners,
>if anybody has a supply of feathers that they would like to donate to 
>a good cause, or sell for a nominal fee (as funds are limited) please
>let me know. or if you know where we might be able to get some let
>me know that also. we are getting despreate as demand is exceeding
>supply. and i cant make my birds molt any faster.
> they are interested in any feathers from any type of bird, as you may
>own a type of bird that nobody that we know around here has..

When I was quite young I used to collect bird feathers just because I 
thought they were pretty (God meant for me to have one of my own).  No I 
didn't keep them but I can tell you some good sources.  Check out local pet 
stores - find out when cages are cleaned and ask if you can have the 
feathers if you show up.  The zoo is the best.  I don't know where you live 
but here in Cleveland a large number of birds, peacocks especially roam 
freely and drop feathers very freely.  I used to go home fromt he zoo with 
a full box of feathers.  If you post your snail mail address I'm sure there 
are many of us that would be willing to spring for a stamp and mail you the 
proceeds or our birds' moltings!  




            " Learn from the mistakes of others
             you can never live long enough to
             make them all yourself"

                                *Carol*

			
Organization: Naval Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:15:48 -0500 
From: "Robert O. Frasca" <rf2c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Bird Snacks Summary


  I had heard from several vets and other bird guru's that seed is not
at all a balanced diet for birds.  In fact many have told me that a bird
is better off eating human food, with the exception of avacado and
chocolate.  Well, after hearing this I started my search for a pellet
type basic diet I could give my bird, supplemented with human foods. I
tried to convert My cockateil with no success,  until recently.  I had
brought my bird to a vet and she suggested these pellets from Harrison
Bird Food, Inc.  To make a long story short my bird loves em.  I haven't
seen them in any pet shop, only at the vet or mail order.  

Some of the other food I give him is pastina (small pasta pellet shaped)
rice,  and rice/wheat chex ceral.  He also loves grape nuts.  The vet
also told me to give him Kale (leafy greens) she said that it has more
calcium than most other foods including egg shells.  He loves it!  My
bird also loves pizza, and corn chips and chopped nuts. 


Regards

Rob Frasca
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: roberts@studguppy.lanl.gov (Doug Roberts)
Subject: Re: Birdie Anecdotes
Followup-To: rec.pets.birds
Organization: Technology Modeling and Analysis, LANL-A7
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:15:27 GMT


In article <9301121250.PN08789@LL.MIT.EDU> lind@ll.mit.edu (Tom Lind) writes:

> Our red-shouldered macaw (Hahns Macaw), Mr Chips, also affectionately known
> as Attila the Hahns, 

Hmm. Our double yellow-headed Amazon Jezabel is nick-named Attila the Hen...

> Also, our blue-fronted amazon, Maggie, being the six month old food hog
> that she is (and nick-named Miss Piggy by the family) has learned to detect
> when her morning snack is being prepared.  She gets real excited when she
> hears my wife chop up veggies and fruit or open the various bags we keep
> her food stuffs in.  But when the microwave starts and stops she will lets
> out a real loud and extremely clear  "UHHMMMM,  GOOOODD! 
 

Double Hmm...

_Our_ blue-front, Sancho says that too, every time he sees with with a cookie
or something else he _knows_ is delicious. If I ask him if he wants some, he
replies, "OH YEAHHHH!".

You can't tell me they don't know what they're saying :-}.

--Doug
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From: dzz8420@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (Dean Zevchek)
Subject: Dove Age
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: NASA Lewis Research Center / Cleveland, Ohio
Distribution: usa
Date:  8 Jan 1993 15:44 EST  

I have an ex-magician's white dove who retired from performing at the
age of one or two.  He's still extremely active and healthy with no
signs of slowing down at the age of 16 1/2.  What is the average 
lifespan of a dove?

Dean & Mr. Pig (the Dove)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.birds
From: mnoeske@SU1AC.Harris-ATD.com (Mike Noeske x4143)
Subject: NEED FEATHERS
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:53:54 GMT
Organization: Advanced Technology Dept, Harris Corp, Melbourne, FL

hello fellow birdowners,
 a person that i work is involved with a local boy scout troop
(troop 365 in melbourne fla) and over the last few years i have
given them all the feathers that my birds have dropped. i've been
collecting the major feathers (wing/tail and some body) for years.
i have also been getting them from other bird owners in the area.
but alas out supply has almost run out. the boy scouts use them
for projects in the Order of the Arrow, where the make things and
study about the ways of the American Indian. since real eagle and hawk
feathers are out of the question, they use painted/dyed turkey feathers
to represent eagle feathers and the tropical feathers to add color.
if anybody has a supply of feathers that they would like to donate to 
a good cause, or sell for a nominal fee (as funds are limited) please
let me know. or if you know where we might be able to get some let
me know that also. we are getting despreate as demand is exceeding
supply. and i cant make my birds molt any faster.
 they are interested in any feathers from any type of bird, as you may
own a type of bird that nobody that we know around here has..

thanx.....MIKE NOESKE. ....contact me through e-mail at
 
 mnoeske@su1b.ess.harris.com
            or
 mnoeske@su12k.ess.harris.com

ASK YOUR FIENDS
thanx agian   mike