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From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:54:24 GMT
Reply-To: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus

In article <1992Oct7.162931.3671@aio.jsc.nasa.gov> matthews@ecfa.jsc.nasa.gov  
(Michael C. Matthews) writes:
> In article <1992Oct5.190630.26539@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu>  
audley@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Christopher D Audley) writes:
> >Why not just use PostScript. 
>[...]
> 2) PostScript is difficult to view, even on a NeXT... Have you ever
> actually tried to read a long PS document in Preview?  Or worse, tried
> to read Page 50 of a 60-page document?  It's a nightmare.  Maybe it's
> better in 3.0 (I haven't seen it yet), but in 2.1 you had to page
> forward, wait for the page to image, and then page forward again, ad
> nauseum.  And that's if you KNOW which page you want to read!

Well, I can go from random page to random page with my NeXT 2.1
Preview app by just typing the page number in the page number field at the  
bottom.  This is  almost easier than working with the printed text.

It has a lot to do with the tool that created the postscript, but if there
are no errors in the rendering (eg. the panel warning that paging backward   
comes up), random paging is fast, at least on the <100page
documents I have the occasion to read.

Other than that, I think the arguments for rtfd replacing WN are
valid.

-geoff
---------------------------------------------------------------
Geoffrey Brunkhorst, RCF                    brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
Guggenheim 10                                    (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905 USA     fax (507) 284-5231 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: datec@gagme.chi.il.us (Charles Robinson)
Subject: Re: On SW for NRW
Organization: GAGME - Public Access UNIX of Chicago, Illinois, USA, Earth
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 06:43:57 GMT

tlc@cx5.com wrote:
: 
: The reason I was asking if software running on an 040-cube would run on the  
: upcoming NeXT RISC-based workstation was for two reasons: 

[chomp]
: 
: The several replies I got directly or saw posted confirmed my suspicion that  
: software compiled to run on 040 machines will not run on RISC machines. Would  
: any developers out there care to comment on how they indend to deal  
: (financially) with this issue? For example, will you send out two versions in  
: the same packaging, offer a reasonable fee (say on the order of an "upgrade"  
: price) for purchasing both versions of the same package, or at the very least a  
: nominal charge for license-type use on two different machines?

Fat binaries (like those planned for NextStep 486) should solve your concern.
Basically the (incompatable) binaries are packaged together and NextStep
figures out which one to load. Developers will, as I understand the current
situation, be forced to compile on each native system (no cross compilers
will be available for the 486).

BTW I have no inside knowledge of the brick, the nitro or whatever other
speculations which have appeared on the net recently. Of course I hope
that they are all true :).
: 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org (Heiko W.Rupp)
Subject: Re: Speed up 3.0 with memory ?
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:16:31 GMT
Organization: The Home of the Pilhuhn

schmidmeier@evax12.eng.fsu.edu writes:

>Now, that we all know, that 3.0 runs somewhat slower, especially

>Or should I get an additional 16MB (2x8MB Simms) to add up to
>a total of 24MB ???    Is this worthwile doing ???    Will it

I have in my 'old' Mono-Slab 20MB and 3.0 does not seem to slower than
2.1 so adding 8MB will help a lot, but adding 16MB will even help
more.
-- 
Heiko W.Rupp  Gerwigstr.5  7500 Kh'e 1  hwr@pilhuhn.ka.sub.org  +49 721 693642
Hey, waiter!  I want a NEW SHIRT and a PONY TAIL with lemon sauce!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor Legvold)
Subject: Apple CD300 CD-ROM drive
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 13:57:00 GMT

Hi gang.

While persuing rec.photo (one of the only flame-free groups in
existance :-), I came across this tidbit.  It would be nice if
the NeXT drives could be driven to do this.  I'm no engineer,
so I don't know if it's hardware, software, or both.

#Begin quote:

	     Apple Unveils High-Performance CD-ROM Drive
 
Apple today introduced the new AppleCD 300 CD-ROM drive, available in
both external and internal versions, it is two times faster than most
CD-ROM drives, offers a choice of operating speeds, and supports new
CD-ROM formats, including Kodak Photo CD.

The AppleCD 300 is equipped with a large 256K data buffer.

With a speed select switch the user can choose single- or double-speed mode.

The CD 300 can read multi-session Kodak Photo CD discs.
A Photo CD image is a digitized version of a 35 MM photograph
A multi-session Photo CD disc allows additional photographic images
to be added to images already on it.

The CD 300 also supports several new CD formats, including CD+G and
CD+MIDI.  These new formats allow CD developers to better integrate
audio, text and graphics.  The CD+MIDI format, for example, will
allow professional and amateur musicians to more easily use MIDI-
synthesized music in a CD title.

To introduce new CD 300 users to the array of information available
on CD, Apple will ship a collection of 8 to 10 CD-ROM titles with the
drive.  These will include: Alice to Ocean, by Rick Smolan; Mozart:
String Quartet in C Major, by The Voyager Company; Cinderella, by
Discis Knowledge Research; Nautilus, by Metatec/Discovery Systems;
Photo CD Sampler, by Eastman Kodak Company, and The Chronicles and
Collections CD, by Apple.

An internal version, called the CD 300i, will be available as a
dealer-installable option (requires a 5.25-in. drive bay).

A new version of CD-Setup software (version 4.0.1) also supports
all other CD-ROM drives from Apple.

		   Pricing, Availability and Distribution

The AppleCD 300 will be available in December 1992 and the 300i Internal
Drive Upgrade Kit will be available in January 1993 through authorized
Apple resellers.  All AppleCD 300 drives carry a one-year limited warranty.
Pricing, availability and distribution will vary by country.
 
 
Product                              MSRP           Availability
 
AppleCD 300                         $599.00         December 1992
AppleCD 300i Internal Upgrade Kit   $499.00         January 1993
(Includes installation kit)


Well - how about your Kodak PhotoCD on NeXTDimension...???  :-) :-)

Regards,
Thor
edmtl@fiol.uib.no
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: iacovou@gurney.cs.umn.edu (Neophytos Iacovou)
Subject: DBConnect for Ingres
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 01:19:00 GMT





FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

CONTACT:							        
Greg Noel
(612) 225-1401


Penultimate Development to Release DBConnect for Ingres

SAINT PAUL, MN--October 7, 1992--Penultimate Development today announced
the upcoming release of DBConnect for Ingres - a NeXT Database Kit
Adaptor for Ingres database software.  Scheduled for final release
in late October, DBConnect for Ingres will allow NeXT users to easily
access and manipulate data from a network Ingres database server.  

DBConnect for Ingres is designed to work with NeXT's Database Kit (DBKit)
to provide custom, object oriented tools for creating Ingres database
applications on the NeXT platform.  Both NeXT Computer and Ingres
have pledged full support of the product.

DBConnect for Ingres features three main components:  an Ingres DBKit
Adaptor, a DBConnect API (Application Program Interface), and an
IngresConnect Server. The Ingres DBKit Adaptor provides a convenient
interface to the Ingres software, allowing a developer to integrate
complete Ingres functionality with the NeXT Interface Builder and DBKit
Object Library to develop custom NeXT applications.  The provided
DBConnect API allows any Ingres application to be ported for use
on a NeXT workstation.  The product's IngresConnect Server runs on
the Ingres UNIX host and allows the custom NeXT application to
manipulate the Ingres database.

"Our goal is to provide customized tools to aid the NeXT developer,"
says Greg Noel, product manager for Penultimate Development.  
"We saw an opportunity to expand the functionality of NeXTSTEP 3.0
by creating an adaptor for one of the most popular relational 
database packages available--Ingres."

Noel says that Penultimate Development and its software development
partner--Rathe Inc.--plan to release several new NeXT development 
tools in the near future, including other custom DBKit Adaptors 
for major relational database software.

For more information about DBConnect for Ingres, Penultimate Development,
or Rathe Inc., contact Greg Noel by phone at 612/225-1401, or by fax
at 612/223-5388.  Address written inquiries to:  Penultimate Development,
1319 Summit Avenue, Saint Paul, MN  55105.
###


--
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Neophytos Iacovou                                
University of Minnesota                     email:  iacovou@cs.umn.edu 
Computer Science Department                         ...!rutgers!umn-cs!iacovou
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wilcoxt@cuug.ab.ca (Terrance Wilcox 260-8100)
Subject: Calgary NeXT User Group Meeting
Followup-To: comp.sys.next.misc
Summary: Calgary meeting Monday
Keywords: Calgary
Organization: Calgary UNIX Users' Group
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 03:16:20 GMT

Just a short announcement:

         The Calgary NeXT User Group will be holding a meeting
         October 19 (Monday) at 7:30 pm at the University of Calgary,
         Education Building, room 255.

         The topic will be AGT's upcoming ISDN service (coming soon).

         For more info call Terry Wilcox at (403) 229-3361
         or email terry@squid9.cuc.ab.ca

         Thank you for your time and patience.

         Terry Wilcox

 



Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: ksbrain@zeus.UWaterloo.ca (Kevin Brain)
Subject: Re: MIDI interface for NeXT - which one?
Reply-To: info@pri.com
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:23:25 GMT

In article <BvrMo4.7B7.2@cs.cmu.edu> cain@silverblue.fac.cs.cmu.edu (Sebastian  
Nightingale Cain) writes:
> Hi - I combed through the FAQ and couldn't find any reference to which  
> MIDI interfaces will work with an older '040 cube, 3.0, and Presto. What  
> is the current situation with Presto anyway? Is there a full fledged  
> release in the works , or is the current version it?  Anyway, where can I  
> get an interface (don't need a large one - something inexpensive  
> preferably) and the cabling for it?

The 'current situation' with Presto is beta release 0.9.4b, however, we should  
have a new release available in about a week.  Since our first released beta  
version, we have made improvements to practically every facet of the program,  
and have added a whole slew of new features and tools, but we still have many  
more enhancements we want to add.  Adding these features will take another  
several months, so we are anticipating an early 1993 release of version 1.0.   
We will probably release one or two more beta releases before then as well.   
I'm sure you will find version 1.0 to be worth the wait, but for the time  
being, you can start making use of Presto now.  We are calling the pre-1.0  
release versions "beta" only because they lack functionality we want to see in  
the 1.0 release version (such as SMPTE support and soundfile playback).

As for MIDI interfaces, we have them available as well.  Certain interfaces  
available for the Macintosh will also work, provided you have the proper cable  
(which will likely need to be custom made).  For the truly ambitious, I even  
have a schematic for a MIDI interface that I have got to work on the NeXT...

For information on Presto or MIDI interfaces, send email to info@pri.com.  You  
might also want to read the review of Presto in the latest NeXTWORLD magazine.

Kevin Brain
Pinnacle Research, Inc
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: paul@seer.demon.co.uk (Paul Lynch)
Subject: Re: hot key for unix expert preference
Organization: P & L Systems
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 10:29:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct12.172200.17544@wam.umd.edu> sra@nxstep.com (Rich  
Andrews) writes:
> 
> I have found that a problem too. The best solution to date is to make  
the
> workspace the key window, and type a 'command-f' followed by '/tmp' and
> a carriage return. This finds the /tmp (or equivalent) directory
> and if the unix expert preference is not set, the preceding action will 
> force the workspace to show all directories.

Or even just '/tmp' followed by return.  Typing in the File Viewer brings  
up the Finder panel automatically.

Paul
-- 
Paul Lynch
P & L Systems                   (NeXTmail) paul@seer.demon.co.uk
Tel: (0494)671501                      paull@cix.compulink.co.uk
Fax: (0494)680228                       76711.451@compuserve.com
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Date: Thu,  8 Oct 92 18:40:39 MDT
From: yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu (Don Yacktman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: NeXt: fire your head of product distribution


In article <Bvtn2o.EuE@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, lemson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Lemson) writes:
>andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern) writes:
>
>>In article <Bvo482.JvE@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B) writes:
>>>In article <1992Oct5.163926.2680@schaefer.math.wisc.edu>  
>>>haller@schaefer.math.wisc.edu (Kirk Haller) writes:
>>>> NeXt: If you don't have something in stock, let your customers know,  
>>>otherwise
>>>> get the orders right!!!!!!
>>>
>>>NeXT still doesn't keep a stock, do they?  That was one of
>>>the things they impressed me with when I was out there
>>>years ago.  Machines were built basically on demand.  Is
>>>that still the case?  Are they having trouble keeping up? 
>>>Is there a shortage of some of the components?
>
> The main problem lately (and the
>subject of 99% of the flames) has been the NeXT CD-ROM drive, whose
>mechanism NeXT does not manufacture.  They are dependent on someone
>else (I guess Sony).

Wasn't one of the reasons the Color stations shipped with Philips
monitors something about Sony not being able/willing to supply NeXT
with Trinitrons to meet demand?  (I remember there were other reasons,
but I think I remember this as being one of the excuses...)

Whatever,
-Don Yacktman
yackd@alaska.et.byu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: wkwong@sample.eng.ohio-state.edu (Waihon Andrew Kwong)
Subject: Re: optical disk problem
Keywords: optical disk
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept of Electrical Engineering
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:10:09 GMT

My OD start spinning down and up, too.
But it does that only once every long while, though.

In FAQ, they said if you buy the 040 upgrade, you can get the OD filter and the
cleaning kit.

Is there any other ways to obtain it or buy it instead of the expensive upgrade?

Andy
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: anno4000@w172zrz.zrz.tu-berlin.de (Anno Siegel)
Subject: Incompatibility NeXT vs. vi under HPUX  A.08.02
Organization: ZRZ/TU-Berlin
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:20:21 GMT

Hi,
I found a strange incompatibility using vi under HPUX A.08.02 (earlier  
Versions of HPUX work) from a NeXT: Everything is fine, except that when  
using 'x' in command mode to erase characters I don't see the change until  
I enter ^L (redisplay). Happens both with Stuart and with Terminal,  
irrespective of any fumbling with stty (locally and remotely) or  
Terminal/Stuart settings. Non-NeXT machines donn't show this behavior; I  
tried a DEC and (I believe) a Sun. I added 'map x x^L' to my .exrc as a  
workaround, but that's a nuisance.

I know this is a *very* specific question, but if anybody has experienced  
something similar, I'd appreciate responses (by email). I'll summarize.
Thanks.
--
Anno Siegel             Tel.:  +49 30 314 24398
c/o TU-Berlin/ZRZ       s=siegel ou=zrz p=tu-berlin a=dbp c=de 
Einsteinufer 17         siegel@zrz.tu-berlin.de 
D 1000 Berlin 12
From: ptok@void.caltech.edu (Phil Tokumaru)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: The New Browser
Date: 12 Oct 1992 22:20:56 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ptok@void.caltech.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: void.caltech.edu

In article <1992Oct12.115817.1020@yvax.byu.edu>  writes:
> [stuff delted]
>You can move the scrollbar and nothing will happen.
> [more stuff deleted]
>In NeXTSTEP, when you drag a scrollbar, something happens--a window  
>scrolls, or a value changes, or whatnot.  But the browser doesn't do  
>realtime changes...it's weird.  I think NeXT should go back to the  
 ^^^^^^^^^

Realtime responses to user actions was just a bug that accidentally crept into  
NeXTstep 2.x when they introduced the monochrome 'stations. It's been fixed in  
3.0.


> [even more stuff deleted]
From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HiddenWords, sndMucker, and artillery...
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:59:57 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


These three were recently posted to nova/sonata as .tar.Z files.  However,  
when I try to uncompress them, it seems to go for awhile, make a file  
about 5-6 megs big, then die for some strange (unpredictable) error.  Has  
anyone else had any problems uncompressing these files?  Any idea what is  
going wrong for me?

fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
From: kbm8572@zeus.tamu.edu (BRYAN MILLIGAN)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Problems with Terminal fonts
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:30:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	I seem to be having a strange problem with Terminal: all the capital
J's in the Ohlfs 10pt font show up as bold italic.  The other point sizes
seem to work okay, and it only seems to be the J's.  I just got my Station
with NS 3.0 preinstalled, but I don't know if it was doing this out of the
box or if it was something I did while configuring the machine.  Anyone got
any ideas?


bryan

kbm8572@zeus.tamu.edu (VAX 9000)
bryan@aero15.tamu.edu (Sun 4/65)
(409)845-0714         (Panasonic Easa-Phone)
From: glaeske@plains.NoDak.edu (Brian Glaeske)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: WorkSpace defaults after upgrading to 3.0
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:38:31 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

If you don't like to set up your WorkSpace defaults again, here is what YOU
can do.

Get a shell to Unix (I hope people still know how to do this)
type 'cd .NeXT'
type 'cp defaults.wmd defaults2_0.wmd'
type 'cp defaults.wmd defaults3_0.wmd'
Logout.
Log back in.

I think this was a good idea on NeXT's part.  I have access to a set of NeXT
computers here at school.  Only a couple of them have 3.0 right now.  The
rest still have 2.1.  Now why do I want to load my 2.1 dock full of Apps
that can only run under 3.0?  


-- 
Brian Glaeske
 -  /|                        glaeske@plains.NoDak.edu  [Internet] 
  o.O`   --Ooop ACK!!         ..!uunet!plains!gehenna!brian [NeXT UUCP]
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   U    "Bloom County Forever!!"
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: bryan@jeep (Madeleine Bryan)
Subject: Re: Apple CD300 CD-ROM drive
Keywords: CD
Organization: Trident Data Systems
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 18:43:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.135700.28591@alf.uib.no> edmtl@alf.uib.no (Thor  
Legvold) writes:
> Hi gang.
> 
> While persuing rec.photo (one of the only flame-free groups in
> existance :-), I came across this tidbit.  It would be nice if
> the NeXT drives could be driven to do this.  I'm no engineer,
> so I don't know if it's hardware, software, or both.
> 
> #Begin quote:
> 
> 	     Apple Unveils High-Performance CD-ROM Drive
>  
> Apple today introduced the new AppleCD 300 CD-ROM drive, available in
> both external and internal versions, it is two times faster than most
> CD-ROM drives, offers a choice of operating speeds, and supports new
> CD-ROM formats, including Kodak Photo CD.
> 
Stuff deleted - 

> Well - how about your Kodak PhotoCD on NeXTDimension...???  :-) :-)

I am with you who wants a CD thats not Kodak multisession compatible ?    
Photo CD it the hottest thing that is REALLY happening to the
Public of America?   Why just NeXT Dems? if it can run on atrai and sega  
it should run on my turbo don't you think???  But then again I am Media  
oriented.

Madeleine Bryan
bryan@tds.com
-- don' need no stinkin' quote
From: pat%expovision@cam.org (Patrique Lalonde)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: HELP- disapearing icons
Date: 9 Oct 92 19:53:14 GMT
Organization: Edition Electronique Expovision inc.

Bonjour Netland,

Since I've upgraded to 3.0 all my document icons have become text icons.
The file extensions no longer have any affect on the file icon.
Even when I use the Tools inspector, the documents dont recognize the  
their creator apps. only Edit.app.

Please I need help!
Thanks in advance

Pat

____________________NeXT Mail Preferred _______**
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Expovision Inc.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
From: Whoa!
Subject: Spanish/English dictionary?
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 15:33:19 GMT

Hi!  Any of you net gods and goddesses out there know where I can get a  
Spanish-English dictionary for the NeXT?  Of course, I prefer shareware or  
freeware (yes, I will send in my registration fee), but I am willing to  
pay for one to get one too.

Gracias por la ayuda,

Simon Binder
binders@alleg.edu
From: ab@nova.cc.purdue.edu (Allen B)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.misc
Subject: Re: A Modest Proposal
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:10:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University

In article <1992Oct9.015358.10762@dvorak.amd.com> rpomeroy@aunext3.amd.com (Ron  
Pomeroy x(Coop)) writes:
> >>Uh, doesn't anyone use Opener anymore?  Clicking on a
> >>ps.Z works fine on my machine.  If it doesn't on yours, you
> >>really should install Opener.  Saves me tons of time (but I
> >>spend a lot of time looking at compressed tar files and
> >>documents) every day. 
> Me too but with the WorkSpace in 3.0 :-)  Bye bye Opener, Unknown etc.  
etc....

I'm not sold yet.  The Workspace seems to always work in
place, which is very bad in my situation.  I don't want to
uncompress/tar things in the Archives every time I or one
of my users wants to look at them- and you don't want me to
either.

Can I make the Workspace do its thing in /tmp like Opener
does?  If not, I'm sticking with Opener and encouraging
people here to as well.  

ab