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From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Do You Have Three Cats?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 07:05:05 GMT
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: >What genders and species are your animals? How long have they : >been
relating to each other, the way they are now? 
: >
: >Lenore Levine :
 
Our current menagerie consists of

Cats-Daryl-clan elder                  Dogs-Gaia-German Shepherd
     Durin-big brother--|                   Random-?sheltie/keeshond? elfdog!
     Wills	        | sibliings
     Tabitha------------|
     Spike Tabitha's kid

Horse-Sterling (not at home)

Everyone watches out for Daryl when he's testy!

Cinder, who is the middle 3's mom has her own human now.  She was the
picked on cat at her breeders, and then she turned into the cat from
he when she realized that no one would pick on her.  Her imperial highness
wanted to be an only cat, so we found a great home.  Cinder's new person
thought she needed company, but she ran the 3 cats he tried off.  We did
tell him!

Gaia nursed Durin when Cinder weaned him, so she's his security dog.  He
gets mad if we travel with her and leave him at home.  Gaia worries
about all of the cats--she's our German Catherd :)

Durin is the security cat for all of the others.  His presence tends to
keep Daryl, Wills and Tabitha calmer in stressful situations.  He likes
to go to cat shows, 'cause everyone is there to see him.

Wills and Tabitha are our more shy cats.  Wills hates Random, loves Gaia
and lounges around looking elegant.  Tabitha knows all of the good
hiding places.

Spike is even more outgoing than his uncle.  He likes everyone, especially
Random, 'cause she plays with him.  Daryl thinks Spike is a pest, but
since Spike likes to groom Daryl, he might have potential.  Spike thinks an
open door is to go through and he loves to go places.  Anywhere, someone will
love him, no everyone will. :)

Random Numbers, the elf dog, drives everyone else nuts most of the time.
Small doses are okay. Daryl wishes she'd jump out the 2nd story window,
Wills usually wants to do bodily harm (he used to want to kill her) and after
almost a year, Gaia has learned to put up with her.

Sterling likes to play with Gaia, who enjoys this.  Random is terrified of
him. Daryl likes to sleep on Sterling's stuff when I bring it home, and
the younger cats have never met Sterling.  Ster likes to whuffle the barn
cats' fur, but they don't want to play with him.

All of the animals travel well, even together.  It's fun to drive with
dogs and cats who travel well and amaze people with some combination
of dogs and cats riding together in a Chevy Sprint. :)

Karen
From: nlp@pacvax.pacersoft.com (Nancy Pilsch)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Help me name my cat
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:19:46 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Organization: Pacer Software, Inc

I once saw a cat that weighed 31 lbs!  I'm not kidding!  The first time I
saw him I did a double take because at first I thought it was a dog.  I
asked his owner about him, and she said that Zachary was found in a
dumpster with his mother and siblings.  He was the runt.  The mom and
siblings died of pneumonia, the shelter people told her that Zach would
probably not make it, but now he is this HUGE lump of kitty.  She could
probably make money selling Kitty rides ;-)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: Declawed and Clawed cats together
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:15:37 GMT

In article <18567@mindlink.bc.ca> Jack_Webb@mindlink.bc.ca (Jack Webb) writes:

>I know of people with clawed and declawed cats living in the same house.  The
>declawed cats get along alright, because they tend to bite instead of using
>their claws.  Quite capable of looking after themselves in a "mixed"
>household. :)


I have one of each, and it's never been a problem (Zarabeth has claws;
Abigail doesn't).  They seem to bat each other on the head, but when
Zarabeth *really* wants to get Abigail's goat, she runs up behind her,
jumps up, and bites Abigail on the shouders.  Claws don't seem to
enter into this kind of play very much ... the bigger difference is
age (Zarabeth is 12 years younger than Abigail).  The Kid beats up on
the Old Lady when she gets bored ... :-)


--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: afkazan@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (The Dinky Ukie)
Subject: Re: Shopping  News! I found it!
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Cats `R' Us
Date: 18 Dec 1992 09:30 EST  

In article <1992Dec16.193059.19303@athena.cs.uga.edu>, 
maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joan C. Maxfield) writes...
>I just recieved the _Master Animal Care_ catalog in the mail (thanks
>Kay Klier for the vaccine info!) and saw some of the things that
>people have been asking about.
> 
Joan,  

How does one get a copy of the Master Animal Care catalog?

Chris
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: maxfield@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joan C. Maxfield)
Subject: Re: Mischievous Black Cat   (Shannon Lilley)
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:18:21 GMT

In article <983@seahcx.UUCP> leslianne@seahcx.UUCP (Leslianne
Heimbeck) writes: >This may be a tall tale, but I've been told that
solid black cats have a >high likelihood of being half-Siamese, which
accounts for their cleverness >and agression.  Can anyone verify or
discount this?

	Well, the first time Amos went to he vet she told me he most
likely had some siamese in him.  When I asked how she knew (Amos looks
NOT A BIT like a siamese) she said, because he's all black.  Now,
Angelica, also all black, looks a little more siamese that Amos and
she sure has the voice of one, whether or not the two are relsted is
beyond me!  Amos has to go to the vet today anyway so I'll ask him if
I remember.  My poor kitty lost his voice again and now he has an eye
infection or something, its all gooey :( But I washed it off with some
saline soution and it looks better, but let me tell you he sure LOVED
having me dump saline in his eye!

Joan



-- 
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From: froud@SunLab41.sx.ac.uk (Froud D D M)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Any interesting cat tricks out there? 8-)
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:34:47 GMT
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Organization: n/a

In article <Bz270n.EzH@cs.dal.ca> maillet@ug.cs.dal.ca (Andre' Maillet) writes:

>     She knows how to push a door open by sitting up and pushing out with her
>paws. From this, she figured out why some doors would shut when she pushes. 8^)
>Or, at least which ones NOT to push. 8^) She now can open some doors from the 
>outside. (so long as they are ajar, of course)

PAH! Smart!?!?! THAT!?!?!? Ha! Well, *my* burmese can not only open doors
inwards or outside by hooking a paw around and pulling or pushing on the door,
but two of them can actually UNLOCK the damn things by turning the key in
their mouths!! So ner! :-P

(pity it's such a damn nuisance!)

Dominic
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: cmo@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Odd Foods
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 13:48:58 GMT

>>>My kitty, Brandy (a Siamese, no less), loves to drink coffee, eat sloppy joes,
>>>and Fish'O'Filet sandwiches from McD's.  My question is simple---what adverse
>>>affects (if any) would these foods have on him?
>>>
>>No, the question should be, what are the possibilities for advertising!
> 
>   Well, I can just imagine how effective the Cat Eats at McD's commercials
> would be...
> 
>   "Honey, let's go out tonight."
>   "But we don't have a lot of money."
>   "That's alright; we'll eat fast food."
>   "Where should we go?"
>   "I heard McD's is good."
>   "From who?"
>   "Brandy, that famous cat, loves their food."
>   "Hmmmm.  A cat likes it, eh?  Sounds good."
>   "Wait a minute."
>   "What is it?"
>   "I ALSO remembered that cats like cat food."
>   "Welll.."
>   "And if he LIKES their food..."
>   "Ok, we won't go."

Along this same vein:
I heard a comedian do a bit on the cat commercial which shows an elegant cat
sitting in front of an elegant crystal dish filled with the (suppposedly)
elegant cat food fed to it by an elegant owner with elegant music playing in 
the background. The sound-over said something about feeding only the best 
to your discriminating cat.  

The commedian's comment?  "Right, this is for an animal whose idea of fine
dining is flies, mice and grasshoppers."
From: rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu (Rich Haller)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: visiting cat advice needed
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Date: 17 Dec 1992 20:49:32 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: rhaller.cc.uoregon.edu

My 22 year old daughter is coming home for Christmas bringing her cat
McDougal which she got a month or so ago. He is about 9 months shorthair,
very affectionate and active. I have two cats, female littermates Velcro
and Phoebe.  They are a little over 2 years old.

We are both a bit anxious as to how my cats will get on with McDougal.
Before my daughter adopted him, he was used to living with a bunch of other
cats and enjoyed playing with them.

Any advice on how to help them get to know each other and what to do if my
cats won't tolerate him?  Since my daughter normally spends summers with
me, we need to find some way for all them to get along.  This will be their
first encounter.

-Rich Haller <rhaller@ns.uoregon.edu>   University of Oregon, Eugene, OR,
USA
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ehp@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU ("Didi Pancake")
Subject: Re: Feline alarm clock
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:44:09 GMT

In article <thomas.50@yap.las.uiuc.edu> thomas@yap.las.uiuc.edu (Susan Thomas) writes:
>Yes, Booties is terrible about this.  She stands on our dresser and pushes 
>everything off the edge to get our attention.  If this doesn't work, she 
>hooks one slat of our mini-blinds, pulls it out, and then lets it go with a 
>ping.  Most annoying.

Bibs (7 mo.) is the first cat I've lived with who really thinks I NEED to
get up earlier than the usual 6:30 or so. She will start "eeping" and
walking on me around 5 or 5:30. If she does succeed in waking me, I
refuse to feed her...the only thing I will do at that hour is stumble to
the bathroom and back to bed...if she is EXceedingly fortunate, she may
get an ear-skritch out of it.

However, on those days when I don't have to get to work and Bibs tries
this, I tend to really crash back into sleeping. Around 7:30 (gee, a
whole extra hour!) Bibs will search out her loudest toy of the moment
(today it was a wire-cage ball with a bell inside), bring it into the
bedroom, whang it around on the wood floor and off the walls, then bring
it up on the bed and whang it off of me too. Pretty effective.

On the other hand, Cleo is a real slug-a-bed. Even when she's not cozied
down under the covers, she will not stir until I actually walk out to the
kitchen. If she is under the covers, she won't stir until the food dish
hits the floor! Nice kitty!

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From: daveike@sumax.seattleu.edu (Eickerman)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: My Shoulder Kitten, forgot something
Date: 13 Dec 92 20:33:24 GMT
Distribution: rec.pets.cats
Organization: Seattle University


Sorry about that, I was informed by a reader that I forgot to include the
color of my kitten.  Well, she is a very bright white with a medium grey
color.  I have been told that having a female of these colors and markings
is rare.  I am a geology major and would describe her best as galena
(lead) and gypsum (white in color).  Her markings are almost symmetrical,
very nice to look at.  She also has a nice pink nose.  She has a white
belly and goes all the way back to her tail and up to her nose and
constricts down to a streak and disappears between her ears.  The white
also extends up the side of her body to her shoulders, with a little flare
backwards on both sides, remember the symmetry.  Her hind legs are white
with small blotches of grey in the rear of her legs.  Her tail is all
grey.  Very adorable.  

John Eickerman                  **Attention Colorado**
daveike@seattleu.edu        Everyone deserves equal rights
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ehp@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU ("Didi Pancake")
Subject: Re: Just out of curiosity..
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 15:49:45 GMT

In article <18384@mindlink.bc.ca> Jack_Webb@mindlink.bc.ca (Jack Webb) writes:
>My cats don't react to whistling, but they love to be sung to.  

My Cleo (6 yrs.) gets the oddest look on her face when I sing to her. It
looks sort of like "Oh, my god, she's doing something REALLY strange this
time. Wonder if I need to go hide under the bed?" She usually doesn't
jump off my lap and hide, but she looks like that -- and my voice isn't
THAT bad!


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From: berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca Reply-To: bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu (Eva Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: When will people learn???
Keywords: kitten, SPCA,
Date: 19 Dec 92 20:28:16 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Well, as far as I know, the town ordinance puts a limit of two pets per
household :-p Pets as in cats and dogs I believe, but since we live in 
an apartment, it's not so bad (the ordinance) but I think we could have 
handled a third. =)


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From: wd6cmu@netcom.com (Eric Williams)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: How do you teach a kitten to use the litter box?  HELP!
Date: 13 Dec 92 08:46:27 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Murphy was also caught in a parking lot, but has learned pretty well.
Confine the kitten to a small area with the litter box when you are
not around.  Putting some of the other cat's litter in the box sounds
like a good idea.  (I didn't have another cat at the time.)  Keep in
mind that kittens have limited bladder control, so he may have trouble
making it to the box in time the first thing in the morning if he sleeps
in another room.
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From: hauch@cheme.washington.edu (Kip D. Hauch)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Fee for pets in the cabin, Airline responds
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:57:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: 128.hauch-141292005735
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats
Organization: Univ. of Washington Dept. of Chemical Engineering

Last month I posted regarding the charges involved for 
transporting pets in the airline cabin.  Thank you for the several
replies that I have received.

In summary: many airlines will allow you to transport pets
along with your flight for a fee, nominally $50/each way.
Larger pets go in a special pressurized cargo bay, and require
special handling, hence the fee.  Some airlines will allow
small pets to be transported in the cabin as carry-on.  In this 
case no real SERVICE is provided; the kennel is just a 
carry-on piece you stow at your seat.  
HOWEVER, the $50/each way fee is still charged.

I challenged the airline to explain and justify this fee.  I posted
the letter here for those interested, and promised the airline
I would post their response as well when I received it.  Anyone
interested in seeing the original letter again, or wanting
further information on this topic please e-mail.

Here it is as promised:
QQQQQQQQQQ
Dear QQ-.

Thank you for your letter of November 19.  I sincerely regret that
you continue to be displeased with the fact that we charge a 
service fee for the transport of animals in our cabin.

Our goal at X Airlines is to be the carrier of distinct preference,
and customer feedback like yours is critical to our success.  While
we do not have any short-range plans to discontinue this fee, I
have shared your comments with our Director of Passenger Services
for consideration in future planning.

We truly appreciate the support you have shown X Airlines in the past.
I hope that we will have the continued privilege of serving you travel 
needs in the months and years ahead.

Sincerely,

JLD,
Supervisor, Customer Relations

QQQQQQQQQQQQQ
Of course  <sharing your comments with our Dir. of Pass. Services >
is a euphamism for: go away and stop bothering us.  It is nearly
word for word the reply I received from them two years ago
when I first brought this issue to them, and nothing has changed since.

Watch this space after the New Year for how you can help....
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat is constipated
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:24:02 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Dec17.160629.26066@iqsc.COM>, ralf@iqsc.COM (Ralf) writes:
>  My poor cat is constipated, she craps now whenever she can get it out,
> where ever she can get it out. She stands in the litter box sometimes for
> ten minutes or more.  It is getting messy not to mention I don't like
> to see her that way, any help would be great! Thanks

My vet recommends 1/4 tsp Metamucil powder sprinkled on each older
cat's food, each day.

Kay
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: veburst@contra.enet.dec.com (KSV)
Subject: plastic fetish...
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:49:49 GMT


Hi... I'm new to this newsgroup, so bear with me if this question has been
asked before... one of my cats has this thing for plastic... she loves to lick,
chew and eat pieces of plastic... it's dangerous when she ingests it,
obviously, cos she could end up blocking her breathing passage.  Does anyone
know any reasons *why* a cat would do this?  (I need a kitty psychologist!)

Thanks.

-- KSV
From: tim.burton@cutting.hou.tx.us (Tim Burton) 
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: UL: Monumental LSD ov
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:18:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Cutting Edge - Houston, TX - 713-466-1525
Reply-To: tim.burton@cutting.hou.tx.us (Tim Burton) 

MJ.In article <If_xP4i00iUz43g88S@andrew.cmu.edu> "Stephen M. Lacy" <sl31+@andr
>I just want to say that the apparent knowledge of drugs on the network
>and the volume of people that have significant knowledge makes me
>utterly sick.  Is there something about computers that forces you all to
>take drugs, or do you just hang out with people who and that's how you
>get your knowledge.... anyways, you'll tell me that YOU don't really DO
>them, but I won't believe you.
>
>This whole discussion of LSD has gone too far and is upsetting me more
>with every post.
>

MJ.Well, the vast knowledge of drugs on the network is very amazing.  The whole
  .thing that gets me is that even know we all know the effects and dangers (?)
  .associated with drugs, there are still a lot of us who do use them.  But the
  .difference is that we use them wisely and responsibly.  The knowledge that
  .we share with fellow net-ers improves our ability to be safe and know what
  .we are doing.

MJ.I don't think there is anything about computers that FORCE us to take drugs.
  .We are all very stressed people, and I feel that occasional recreational
  .usage of certain drugs, even alcohol, help to relieve stress.  Besides, who
  .says it's not fun to lose control every once and a while?  8-)

MJ.Just my opinion,


     Maybe I have missed something.   What does this have to do with
cats?  You should stop cross posting messages that has nothing to do with
cats.

 - Tim
   internet: Tim.Burton@cutting.hou.tx.us
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From: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Name of my Black Cat / Feline alarm clock
Date: 11 Dec 1992 19:37:22 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: at881@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (N. French)
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In a previous article, holmbeck@cs.weber.edu (Laura Holmbeck) says:

>One thing that I'm curious about, how many people's kitty's suddenly
> get this in their head that they HAVE to try to wake their owners
> up -- and thru persistent methods!  Nokky has started this up the 
> past week or so, and if I don't get up after he mewls at me loudly,
> he'll start pouncing at my face and toes and fingers and what else
> he can nab. =)
>
Spanky was absolutely horrible about this from the age of about
two months to four months. Then he just quit. Maybe it's just
a phase :)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: petitc@vccsouth23.its.rpi.edu (Christopher Jon Petit)
Subject: Re: Just out of curiosity..
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 23:52:06 GMT

hirschon@ast.saic.com (Donna Hirschon (x5177)) writes:

>I can't tell if my cat loves it or hates it when I sing, but she goes crazy - she gets right up in my face and has been known to bite me on the nose.  She also comes and gets in my lap when I whistle, but if I keep whistling, she reacts the same way as when I sing. I guess it doesn't say much for my singing! (or whistling!)

 Don't forget how senesitive kitties little ears are---try singing softer.




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From: dan@msen.com (Dan Sugalski)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Cat Dancer and other toys
Date: 19 Dec 1992 04:25:55 GMT
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
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Cindy Camp (snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com) wrote:
: That is interesting.  One of my cats' favorite toys is one of those
: fur mice that she has torn the inside out of.  It has no eyes, no
: tail, no nose, no stuffing, just a piece of fur.  She will spend
: hours carrying that thing around yowling, and I find in on the bed with me
: in the morning when I get up.

My cats love the fur mice, but I worry about the fake eyes, whiskers, etc.
I found that Tandy Leather sells rabbit fur, so I got some, planning on
making some toys.  The kids told me that it was fine the way it was. :)

My guys also love some fake fur rats I picked up at a cat show.  The rats
are about 4-5 inches long and filled with catnip.  The ones I got have
velcro on the belly so that they can be refilled.  Random (the dog) even
likes them.

Another favorite toy is a tennis ball.  The cats will hunt it down and
then wrap themselves around one, then kick it with the hind legs.  

Karen

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