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From: u_mitro@mv3800.engr.scarolina.edu
Subject: Re: Sleepwalkers: A Review (no spoilers)
Reply-To: u_mitro@mv3800.engr.scarolina.edu
Organization: University Of South Carolina, Columbia, SC
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 04:59:13 GMT

In article <rauser.703107833@sfu.ca>, rauser@fraser.sfu.ca (Richard John Rauser) writes:
>
>
>           Sleepwalkers: A Review by Rick J. Rauser

   [Review Deleted]

>I can say with all honesty that this film has no redeeming qualities 
>whatsoever. Not only was I kicking and screaming when the credits rolled


 I agree wholeheartedly with your review of this terribly dissapointing
film, but you have to admit, some of the morph effects were pretty well done.
Of course you could see the same thing for free on a Michael Jackson video or a
Ford commercial. Another dissapointing thing about this film is the sickeningly
happy ending, Yuck. I wanted to see that girl get the life force sucked out of
her. 
                                       --john--
From: ma183sbs@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Edwin Nomura)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: More Steve KIng Stuff
Date: 8 Apr 92 05:44:52 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <1992Apr7.215954.1@woods.ulowell.edu> mcduffeek@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
>I'm positive that I saw a show on T.V. a long time ago that was about an hour
>or so long that was definitely taken after Steven King's "THe Monkey".  It

Could this have been Amazing Stories?  Are you sure it was taken
from the story?

>was the same exact thing as the story I read.  There was also a short "filck"
>based on the stostory about the little toy soldiers that run around and blow
>a guy away (I forget the title), but it was EXACTLY like the story.  It
>showed on that old show called "The Dark Room" or something like that...

SK's story is Battleground.  Darkroom had an episode called "Siege
of 31 August" which sounds like a ripoff of SK's story.  The
credited writers are Peter Fischer and Davis Grubb and guest starred Ronny
Cox (Total Recall, Robocop) and Pat Corley (Murphy Brown).

ed


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From: ric@netcom.com (Richard A. Bretschneider)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: King's Needful Things -> Good Movie?
Keywords: King
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:18:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.rnqjt-d.ric
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

jordan@cs.tulane.edu (Misti Jordan) writes:

>>Just finished Needful things.  Think that it would have been a
>>very timely pre-recession book, but now it's just a nicely crafted
>>morality tale.  One thing that struck me was that even though
>>it's a big story, it could be made into a movie with relatively
>>few costly effects.  Things only really get going in the last
>>section (explosions, metamorphosis, etc) and the bulk of the book
>>is just a lot of nice (!) character interaction.

>NICE character interaction! NICE ! Yech! I read Needful Things a few
>months ago, and I was horrified! I am not going to put in any specific
>examples here, but I thought it was just too disgusting-- even for
>King. I must say it is one of my LEAST favorites, and one that I
>would cringe from if I saw it was coming to the local theatre!

You must have been misinterpreting my use of the word "nice".  I
felt that it emoted well, got a reaction from the reader, and 
was suitably unique, yet believable.  Your reaction is, dare I 
say it, proof of my belief.

>>Of course if it does go to hollywood, there's always the
>>possibility that some screenplay rewrite might inject some
>>cyberpunk or extraterrestrial elements and send the budget
>>soaring! :-)

>WATCH OUT FOR POSSIBLE SPOILERS!!!!! :

>I don't know about "extraterrestrial", but there is certianly some
>weird material in this book, with Mr. Gaunt, As with Flagg in the
>Stand, you are dealing with a "non-human" character, and this would
>have to be portrayed in some unique way.

Actually, my comments about cyberpunk and ets was a side glance
at what was done with King's non-computer story "Lawnmower Man."
But you're certainly right about Gaunt.

-- 

"If you're not going to kill me, I've got things to do."
Ric Bretschneider     ric@netcom.com        BWAH-Ha-ha!
    "Anybody not wearing 2 million sunblock 
      is going to have a real bad day, get it?"
Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: stave@apollo.hp.com (Joel H. Stave)
Subject: Re: Witches
Reply-To: stave@apollo.hp.com (Joel H. Stave)
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Apollo Division - Chelmsford, MA
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:37:22 GMT

In article <68@quark.ansto.gov.au>, davidc@quark.ansto.gov.au (David
Carroll) writes:
|> Hi, how are you all?
|> 
|> I'm looking for examples to use in an essay on Witches in Literature and
|> I'm actually having trouble thinking them up. Either the poor old
|> witch hasn't been given much serious treatment or I'm missing something.
|> Can anyone help?
|> 
|> I've got 'Witches of Eastwick' by John Updike, 'The Witching Hour' by Anne
|> Rice and that's about it. Throw in Thessaly from Sandman, and Terry
|> Pratchett and Bewitched for the less serious minded.
|> 
|> If anyone can give me a list of further novels/short stories to add
|> to this I would be very grateful.
|> 
|> Build high,
|>             ^o^
|> 

"The Crucible" by Arthur Miller - a play about the Salem witch trials.

"Young Goodman Brown" by Nathanial Hawthorn (short story) - I believe
Hawthorn wrote several other short stories that involved witches.

How about "The Wizard of Oz"?

"Macbeth" has witches in it.

Many popular horror anthologies will have a story or two that
involves witches in one way or another.

Hope this helps,
Joel Stave
stave@apollo.hp.com
From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Dario Argento
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:05:45 -0700
Distribution: usa
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1992Apr13.060202.21298@mixcom.com>, ray.chramega@mixcom.mixcom.com (ray.chramega) writes:
> 
> DEMON - This is about people in modern times who are unsuspectingly coaxed
[description deleted]
> 
> DEMON 2 - The demon makeup is much improved in the sequel in my opinion, but
[description delete]

? Are you sure these are Argento movies?  I don't have my Video Guide handy,
but I'm pretty sure these were by either Lucio Fulci or Mario Bava (I think
DEMON may have been directed by Mario's son, Whatsisname Bava).
From: raisch@Control.COM (Robert Raisch)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Sticks...(Lovecraftianisms)
Date: 12 Apr 92 01:24:51 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Control Technology Corp., Hopkinton MA


Karl Edward Wagner, if I dismember correctly.
Good story, too.

New Tales of the Cthulhu Mythos is also good for night shivers.

Arkham House
Sauk City, Wisconsin  

Hmmmm, now for the zip code?  Anyone?
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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: New S. King movie, (info requested).
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 14:44:26 GMT

In article <1992Apr4.144432.15407@acsu.buffalo.edu> v079kku8@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Yes, it's Bond, James Bond.) writes:
>>> 
>>>I do know that King, Clive Barker, and Tobe Hooper all have cameo's in the
>>>movie.
>
>	I may be the most ignonrant person on the planet: Could someone please
>tell me who Tobe Hooper is?
>
>						Navin

Blasphemer!  Well, ok.  A few films he directed are:

_Texas Chainsaw Massacre_
_Poltergeist_ (although I've heard Spielberg did a lot of the work)
_Salem's Lot_ (for TV)
_Lifeforce_
_Invaders from Mars_

hmm, I know there are a few more but I can't think of any off hand.  Does
anyone know if he's currently working on anything?

--
McCreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com     Computers are like Old Testament gods;
Me? Speak for Compaq?  Yeah, right.   lots of rules and no mercy.
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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: kemnitz@netcom.com (Greg Kemnitz)
Subject: Re: Jacob's Ladder (was Re: Flatliners
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 00:03:02 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

In article <92Apr5.185143edt.20187@me.utoronto.ca> steinman writes:

>Of course you liked Flatliners.  It spelled everything out in huge, capital
>letters in blaring neon.  And you know what those letters spelled: CRAP.
>Talk about your infantile cosmic theories!  A pale imitation of JL.


Oh, stick it up your--ahem--in your ear.  I thought Flatliners was a great
film, and I hate the kind of crap Hollywood usually turns out, from Steven 
King to Steven Spielberg.  No, I have not seen Jacob's Ladder, although I
was planning on checking it out.

>Then again, you're the kind of movie-goer the studios like.  Feed 'em crap
>and have 'em begging for more.


Then again, you're the kind of obnoxious asshole that makes people want
to flame on the net.  Say something stupid and you'll get a response that
is twice as obnoxious.

>Nothing personal, just MHO.

Don't you mean "In Your Arrogant Opinion?

>Dave!

Jon

jon@postgres.berkeley.edu
From: goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Horror magazines
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:24:50 GMT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <KK.92Apr15155404@dk.cpsc.ucalgary.ca>, kk@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Ken Kittlitz) writes:
> In article <1992Apr15.064726.1339@wkuvx1.bitnet> goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
> 
>  >  One of them, _After Hours_, once had an ad that featured a dozen
>  >  quotes, all from other small press publishers.  Who cares?
> 
> Small press readers.  Any further questions? ;-)
> 
Yeah---why?  When I read generic praise for a publication made by
other publishers, I don't immediately say, "Well, if Rich Chizmar (for
example) said that, it *must* be good...."  Then again, I rarely pay
attention to sales blurbs because they're usually done because:

  o  A writer's publisher requires/expects/wants him/her to blurb
     another of the publisher's authors

  o  It's a chance to try to help out a friend

  o  The blurber gets his name in front of more people

I'm reminded of the King-quote craze of the '80s, which has mercifully
slacked off some.  For a while, it seemed almost *every* title had a
blurb from King about what a great book it was.

Boring....

Hunter
------
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goathunter@WKUVX1.BITNET, 502-745-5251
From: rac@calmasd.Prime.COM (Russ Clark)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: The Hitcher (NO SPOILERS)
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:56:03 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Computervision, San Diego, CA


  
    C. Thomas Howell is probably best known for his portral of Pony Boy
    in the Outsiders.

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Darin M. Powell)
Subject: F. Paul Wilson
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 14:37:50 EDT


	F. Paul Wilson has a very good short story called "Bugs"
	in this month's "Magazine of Fantasy and Science Fiction."
	It's both a "gross-out" and pretty scary, too.

	Darin Powell
	dmpowell@rodan.acs.syr.edu

	Also -- Clive Barker fans might want to pick up the winter
	issue of "Cemetary Dance" magazine. It has an illuminating
	interview with Clive where he basically says he has "no interest"
	in returning to "Books of Blood"-type horror anytime soon.
From: roxy@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (r.prisco)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Weaveworld (??)
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:49:40 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: AT&T

>                   ANY OTHER BARKER FANS OUT THERE ????
> a
> B
> C
>         HAS  ANYONE READ "IMAJICA" YET...
>                    IS IT ANY GOOD? 
>                      PLEASE LET ME KNOW. 
> 
> >kmcduffee@woods.ulowell.edu


I've read both Weaveworld and The Great and Secret Show, and that's probably
it by Barker - I enjoyed Weaveworld much more, personally.  I thougth TGASS
(what an acronym!) got a little nebulous at the end ... I got lost 3/4 of the
way thru it ... tho I'm looking forward to whatever book he has following it
up, however!
What other books did Barker write???  What would you recommend?  I guess
Imajica is by Barker ...


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From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (The fox so cunning and free)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Ye Olde Canadian TV Thread (Re: Friday the 13th, The Series - TV Program Question)
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:23:59 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Apr5.022619.11732@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu>, gld@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Gary L Dare) writes...

} I'm surprised that none of the three male actors (Chris Wiggins/"Jack",
} John D. LeMay/"Ryan" nor Stephen Monarque/"Johnny") have popped up on
} any other Canadian series that show up down here now and again (but then
} again, I'm not watching much else!). Oh! -- it just occurred to me
} recently that Chris Wiggins' voice is featured on many voice-overs for
} commercials up north.

I've seen Wiggins' name pop up in various Canadian productions, though none
specific come to mind, except a relatively recent episode of SWEATING
BULLETS. He also seems to do a fair amount of voice acting for animated
films and series.

} A number of people from other Canadian shows such as "ENG" (the chief
} editor, the weathergirl) and "War of The Worlds: The Second Wave" (the
} head Morthren was guy on a couple of times) have been guests on a
} large number of episodes. A guy who I saw in Night Heat as a small-time
} thug has appeared in a couple (e.g., the cursed boxing gloves) as well
} as a very striking blonde detective from the same Night Heat episode,
} who played a fashion model in the sequel to the "cursed compact" and
} is now the lead for a show on Lifetime called "Veronica Claire" (since
} that's the only "Night Heat" I've ever seen, I don't know about any
} other guests, nor have I seen Veronica Claire [...]

A number of the regulars from ROAD TO AVONLEA have popped up on F13 as
well. And one of the crazy brothers that kidnapped Mickey and Ryan when
their car broke down is Geza Kovacs, who seems to show up all over the
map.

} My brother said there was a series of domestic Canadian books, too,
} but I'm not up north to verify if they're connected to this great TV
} show or those dreadful movies.

Hmmm... never noticed any in my various travels through Ontario, but I
should be passing through there next week and the week after on my way
to and from Minnesota, so I'll keep an eye out.

-- 

	"Buster, this trip downriver has been truly special.
	 Downright Twainian in a Hitchcockian sort of way."


--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: alt.horror
Subject: Re: Stephen King news
Date: 11 Apr 92 23:16:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr11.231644.3480
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

In <31560@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> ma183sbs@sdcc4.ucsd.edu (Eddie the 'ead) writes:

>
>This is all from Fangoria #112:
>Pet Semetary II set to star Edward Furlong (T2), Anthony Edwards,
>Darlanne Fluegel, and Clancy Brown.
This sounds like it could be interesting. Good cast, all it needs is a well
written script.
>Needful Things will be directed by Peter Yates from a screenplay by
>W.D. Richter .
>Unrelated to SK, but Fangoria reports that Friday the 13th Part IX
>will open on November 13.
>
I hope this is a joke. We sure don't require any more of Jason.
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Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: quaalude@netcom.com (George Mealer)
Subject: Re: Lovecraft/Barker
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 01:34:40 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

rhr9081@hertz.njit.edu (Ray Rich) writes:
: In article <1992Apr3.150306.1@woods.ulowell.edu> mcduffeek@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
: >
: >I guess you could say I'm just an "amateur" King and horror reader, but I
: >thought maybe someone could give a BRIEF review on Weavewrld.  I heard it's
: >good.Is it to you out there?
: >
: >kmcduffee@woods.ulowell.edu
: 
: 	Ok, here's my 2 cents.  A few people on the net have complained that
: Lovecraft's writing is cumbersome and/or boring.  Though I disagree, that's
: just personal preference.
: 	I, however, feel the same for Clive Barker.  I read the first page
: of Weaveworld 8 times and I still couldn't figure out how many characters
: were in the first scene, where it took place, or even who/what they were.  I
: gave it to a friend who verified my feelings by doing the same.  Between the
: two of us, we couldn't make heads or tails of it.
: 	It's kind of disappointing, because I've heard praise for Barker
: similar to what I love about Lovecraft, his creation of a whole pantheon of
: horrors waiting for humanity to stumble upon them.
: 	Also, about McCammon, I loved The Wolf's Hour, but found it to be
: very comic bookish and cliche.  If it was a movie, it would be a good 
: Saturday matinee B-movie.  Stephen King often calls his work the literary
: equivalent of a Big Mac and fries.  If that's the case, the Wolf's Hour 
: was a Milky Way.
: 	No flames, please.  These are my opinions only and meant to be
: taken or left.  If you could explain what I'm missing about Barker in a
: polite fashion, I would be happy to hear it, however.
: 
: 					Raythrax        
: 
OK - my addendum...Weaveworld is probably the most convoluted Barker book I
have ever had the dubious pleasure of reading.  Try _The Damnation Game_...
it's a better example of his good stuff.  Books of Blood are good, too...
bite sized chunks.  :)  As for McCammon, Raythrax is right about _The Wolf's
Hour_...it's a B-book, so to speak.  _They Thirst_ is also pretty mediocre...
I would suggest _Swan Song_ as an introduction to McCammon...also, I just read
_Boy's Life_ (new McCammon in paperback) -- it's not horror, really...it'
er...it's to McCammon what "The Body" (Stand By Me) was to Stephen King.  
However, I think it's quite masterful.

: 
: Cthulhu Loves Me.
: This I Know,
: For the Mad Arab
: Told Me So.

Love that sig!

--
George Mealer      quaalude@netcom.com

"Only by attempting the absurd can you achieve the impossible."

Newsgroups: alt.horror
From: cgrazian@engws9.ic.sunysb.edu (GRAZIANO)
Subject: Re: Jacob's Ladder (was Re: Flatliners
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:38:25 GMT


BTW, has anyone here seen _Brain Dead_?  It is similar is certain ways to
_Jacob's Ladder_ in that it is not one but a series of "What ifs" in which
the protagonist isn't sure which is real.

If you found _JL_ confusing or murky, you'll probably *hate* _Brain Dead_,
since it's harder to keep track of.  Still, I thought it was a really
cool movie.
-- 
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From: liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext,alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Wanted: Project Gutenberg info/address
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:02:58 GMT
Organization: It's Home, really...


    I have never heard og this, could any one with info please post, as I'm
sure there are many of us who would be interested in this. Thanks.

--
****  Liam Greenwood	    * Don't tell my Mother I'm a programmer...   ****
****  Wanganui, N.Z.	    * she thinks I'm a piano player in a brothel ****
		   **** liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz ****					  *
From: hok@rieska.oulu.fi (Harri Oinas-Kukkonen)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext
Subject: The Dexter HT Ref. Model
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:44:40 GMT
Organization: University of Oulu, Finland


x I also need the full reference of the paper they 
x presented at NIST workshop in 1990. I would greatly
x appreciate any information.

Frank Halasz & Mayer Schwartz:
The Dexter Hypertext Reference Model.
pp. 95-133.
In Proceedings of the Hypertext Standardization
Workshop, Jan. 16-18, 1990, National Institute
of Standards and Technology. NIST Special Publication
500-178, Gaithersburg, March 1990.

their email addresses are on this paper:
halasz@xerox.com
mayers@tekchips.labs.tek.com

----
Harri Oinas-Kukkonen
Univ. of Oulu, Dept. of Inf. Proc. Science, Finland
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext,rec.arts.int-fiction,alt.postmodern
From: chungkuo@umcc.ais.org (Shawn FitzGerald)
Subject: Hypertext Poem for Macintosh via FTP
Date: Fri, 03 Apr 92 10:16:04 EST
Organization: UMCC

I have placed a poem of mine in an FTP directory. It was written in
StorySpace (Eastgate Systems), a hypertext authoring environment for the
Apple Macintosh. The file was then converted to a stand alone reader. The
file canbe ported and converted with BinHex 4.0.
 
The resulting file is self-extracting.
 
The file requires an Apple Macintosh to run with at least 500K RAM.
 
It can be found via FTP at irie.ais.org in pub/hypertext
 
I encourage you to send me any comments.


-- 
   Shawn FitzGerald           |   chungkuo@ais.org
   (Rational Romantic         |   xxxx 
    Mystic Cynical Idealist)  |   UMCC
"Don't knock masturbation, it's sex with someone I love." --Woody Allen
Xref: sparky alt.hypertext:394 alt.cd-rom:1364
From: artc@bacchus.epps.kodak.com (Art Campbell)
Newsgroups: alt.hypertext,alt.cd-rom
Subject: Re: Wanted: Project Gutenberg info/address
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:43:45 GMT
Reply-To: artc@bacchus.atex.kodak.com
Followup-To: alt.hypertext
Organization: Atex Publishing Systems, Inc.

In article <liam.02qa@durie.amigans.gen.nz>, liam@durie.amigans.gen.nz (Liam Greenwood) writes:
|> 
|>     I have never heard og this, could any one with info please post, as I'm
|> sure there are many of us who would be interested in this. Thanks.
|> 

I don't have an address, but I remember that PG has a regular news group...
parhaps asking your news administrator if he/she can add that group would
be a good way to go.

Art

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