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From: palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Do STRINGING PATTERNS affect performance?
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:40:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvmark.1992Aug21.124052.69567
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Aug20.170943.22926@src.umd.edu> clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin) writes:
>   Given that you and some other stringer use the same
>machine, how might the two of you string the same racquet
>at the same tension with different actual tensions?  I'm
>a little puzzled.  

Easy. One machine (or both) hasn't been checked for accuracy and calibrated.
Two, one of the stringers doesn't clamp close enough to the frame. Three,
on of the stringers hasn't cleaned his clamps or adjusted them to the gauge
of the string and string slippage occurs.

This is why the USRSA is recommending that stringers get certified. You learn
to go through this mental checklist. Like I siad before, anyone can string
a racquet, it's very simple, but it takes time, patience and experience to
eliminate your mistakes.
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From: graham@maths.su.oz.au (Graham Matthews)
Subject: Re: STRATEGY: Playing a 'pusher' ...
Organization: School of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Sydney
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 12:43:49 GMT

(vincent.lai) writes:
>I have noticed that a lot of my opponents don't put much pace on their
>shots (hence, pushers).  I'm a little confused as to how to play
>against such people.  Harold Solomon's moon balls come to mind very
>quickly here, and he did very well with this strategy.  There are
>solutions that come to mind, but none I would be comfortable with:
>One:
>Slam the ball home, and have my opponent wear me out by the beginning
>of the second set.
>Two:
>Push back, and forget what I've learned at tennis camp.
>Any other ideas are greatly welcome ...

Play a lot of short angles against them - this will make it hard for them
to push the ball deep, and when they drop short go into the net or go
for a winner out of the mid-court.

graham
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From: hari@robios.me.wisc.edu (Kambainathan Hari)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Any recommendation of racquet for the beginners?
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:03:57 GMT
Organization: U. Wisconsin-Madison, Robotics Laboratory
In-reply-to: kl@isr.harvard.edu's message of 19 Aug 92 18:54:24 GMT


>I am a beginner and taking a class. Several of us have a common question
>that "is there a kind of racquet suitable for the beginners to practice
>right strokes?" We are confused by so many kinds of shapes and sizes,
>particulary widebody and oversize, not to mention the prices.
>Recommendation of any particular brand and model wouldn't be a bad pointer
>at all.


A wooden racquet is in *my opinion* the best for a beginner. 
  ^^^^^^

- Hari

K.R.Harinarayan
Robotics Lab., Dept. of Mech. Engg.
Univ. of Wisconsin, Madison

Fone  : (608) 262-7463, (608) 262 - 9056
e-mail: hari@robios.me.wisc.edu
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From: clc5q@hemlock.cs.Virginia.EDU (Clark L. Coleman)
Subject: Re: A little trivia question
Organization: University of Virginia Computer Science Department
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:24:00 GMT

In article <HUSEBY.92Aug16091655@saturn.nr.no> huseby@saturn.nr.no (Ragnar Bang Huseby) writes:
>Others:
>Jimmy Connors (in US Open, 80), Slobodan Zivojinovic (in Australian Open, 85).
>Testerman (in Stratton Mountain, 87).
>Maybe John Fitzgerald (in Wimbledon, 89).

In the 1985 Australian Open quarterfinals, Zivojinovic beat McEnroe by
2-6, 6-3, 1-6, 6-4, 6-0.

In the 4th round (round of 16) at Wimbledon in 1989, McEnroe beat John
Fitzgerald 6-3, 0-6, 6-4, 6-4.

In the 1980 U.S. Opem semis, McEnroe beat Connors 6-5, 5-7, 0-6, 6-3, 7-6.
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: A little trivia question
Date: 16 Aug 92 03:12:28 GMT
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park

In article <1992Aug14.050524.8521@src.umd.edu>, clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin) writes:
> 
>    Name at least three players that have played 6-0 sets against
> John McEnroe and when they did this.
> 

    Mats Wilander (in a French Open, 83?), Henri Leconte (in a
Master's round robin play off, first set), and Miloslav
Mecir (when he won the WCT Finals played in Dallas).
There may be others.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
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From: GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tito E. Gervacio)
Subject: Amateurism in the Olympics
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 03:57:32 GMT



      George Will (of the Brinkley, Donaldson, Roberts, Will
 gang in ABC), had intimated about this amateurism  misnomer
 in  Olympics  competition.   Amateur  being  defined  as  a
 'person  who  engages  in  a  sport,  or other activity for
 pleasure rather than for financial benefit...", it's  quite
 clear    that   our   Olympians   will   fail   with   such
 categorization.

      There is so much economic incentives and rewards today
 for athletes to become so anchronistic. I would  hope  that
 the  governing  body of Olympic events catch up with times.
 Loosen up, or even free up, qualifying rules, and we'll see
 the best athletes perform in their own fields.

      But I suspect that changes to the rules of  the  game,
 whatever  they  are, may be slow as long as those in charge
 are not up to par with the changing world.

      The goal  would  be  to  see  athletes  compete  among
 athletes,  and  not  nations  among  nations.   That's pure
 competition-- mano por mano.  You against me, performing to
 our utmost potential, and enjoying the  sportsmanship  that
 is inherent to the competition.

                                       -TEG
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From: sliew@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Selbyn Liew)
Subject: Re: Best shots in tennis
Organization: Electrical and Electronic - University of Melbourne 
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 06:11:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.210409.17457@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu> mmmirash@bearcat.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mandar Mukund Mirashi) writes:
>
>THE BECKER FAN RESPONSE :
>
>Among the men ---
>
>   Serve:  Most dangerous -- Boris Becker 
>           Most versatile -- Boris Becker 
>
>   Best volleys  : Boris Becker 
>
>   Best forehand : Boris Becker 
>
>   Best backhand : Boris Becker
>
>   Best lobber   : Boris Becker 
>
>   Best overhead : Boris Becker
>
>   Best drop shot: Boris Becker 
>
>   Best drop volley: Boris Becker 
>
>   Fastest mover : Boris Becker 
>
>   Best return of serve : Boris Becker 
>
>                                             From a diehard Becker fan.

Finally, I am convinced - that "diehard Becker fans" do exist!  :-)
Amazing.

Regards,
S. Liew
==========================================================================
Dept. of EE Engineering, University of Melbourne, Victoria 3052, Australia
EMAIL: sliew@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au    PH: +61-3-3447976   FAX: +61-3-3446678
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From: graham@maths.su.oz.au (Graham Matthews)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: STRATEGY: Playing a 'pusher' ...
Date: 21 Aug 92 12:42:50 GMT
Organization: School of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Sydney

(vincent.lai) writes:
>I have noticed that a lot of my opponents don't put much pace on their
>shots (hence, pushers).  I'm a little confused as to how to play
>against such people.  Harold Solomon's moon balls come to mind very
>quickly here, and he did very well with this strategy.  There are
>solutions that come to mind, but none I would be comfortable with:
>One:
>Slam the ball home, and have my opponent wear me out by the beginning
>of the second set.
>Two:
>Push back, and forget what I've learned at tennis camp.
>Any other ideas are greatly welcome ...

Three: learn to serve and volley and go to the net all the time.

graham
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From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao V. Akella)
Subject: Re: best shots in tennis
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Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:40:00 GMT

In article <graham.714399766@galois>, graham@maths.su.oz.au (Graham Matthews) writes:
> (Thomas Page) writes:
> Mac's serve and his speed around the court seem to me to be the two things
> that these days seem to have gone off (compared to when he was younger).

His temper (or rather, its shortness) still seems to be holding up pretty well,
though.  Anyone see his match yesterday at the Volvo International where he
overturned a 200 lb. ESPN courtside camera out of frustration after he missed
an easy volley near the end of the first set?  He went on to lose the set but
won the match in 3 sets anyway.

He later tried to explain it away as an "accident," but he was fined $3000 for
the incident.  Both ESPN and CNN commented that he should've been booted out of
the tournament (ESPN called the fine amount "paltry"), but I don't think the
officials dare kick him out, since they know which side of their bread is
buttered.  I wonder how the fans would've reacted had Mac been defaulted...

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, rao%moose@umnacvx.bitnet>
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From: hari@robios.me.wisc.edu (Kambainathan Hari)
Subject: Re: Request for USTA address and phone #.
Organization: U. Wisconsin-Madison, Robotics Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:13:35
In-reply-to: hari@robios.me.wisc.edu's message of 12 Aug 92 19:10:23

Sorry about my previous 2 *blank* postings. The editor goofed up.
                          
Anyway the number is:

800 - 253 USTA

- Hari

K.R.Harinarayan
Robotics Lab., Dept. of Mech. Engg.
Univ. of Wisconsin, Madison

Fone  : (608) 262-7463, (608) 262 - 9056
e-mail: hari@robios.me.wisc.edu
From: mayalama@cisa.cis.uab.edu (Yalamanchili V M Rao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Request for USTA address and phone #.
Summary: USTA address
Keywords: USTA
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:27:10 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Alabama at Birmingham
Originator: mayalama@cisa

Hi there,
Can somebdoy post on the net or email me the Phone # (they have a 1-800 number)
and address of the USTA? I am at Univ. of Alabama at Birmingham, AL and quite
desperate to get somebody to play tennis with me regularly (I am at 4.5 in the
USTA ratings that somebody posted earlier). So if somebody has the address of
USTA for Birmingham or for Alabama or for the South (well, or even for their
main office), pls email me that info. Thanks in advance.
-- Mallik.
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From: palmer@uvmark.uucp (Filaman)
Subject: Re: Question for experienced stringers!!
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 92 17:42:09 GMT
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.
Keywords: Stringing, help

In article <yogi.713967595@coombs> yogi@coombs.anu.edu.au (Michael Hanslip) writes:
>Help!!!!
>I just got through strining a friend's fairly old Prince Volley 110
>with Prince Endurance at what my stringing machine says is 70 lbs. The problem
>is the minute cracks that appeared in the sidewalls of the frame in 
>the process. I know from experience that my results are tighter than 
>other people's at the same #. So is it my fault or was the racquet just old?
>BTW, the racquet says 55-70 lbs. on it, and a couple weeks ago I did a 
>Dunlop at 70 as well that I suspect would be about 50-60 lbs recommended.
>No problems there and the racquet is great to play with now.
>What to tell my friend???? I don't know him that well, we just play tennis
>occasionally. AAaaarrggh!
>Michael Hanslip.

It's possible that the frame is just old. It's also possible that you
didn't mount the frame properly or that your machine doesn't have the
right adaptor to accomodate that frame. What type of a machine do you
have? Why do you feel that you or your machine strings tighter than 
others?


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From: GE.TEG@forsythe.stanford.edu (Tito E. Gervacio)
Subject: Videotapes of Specific Matches
Organization: Stanford University, California, USA
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 01:31:06 GMT


      There was a post asking for specific matches on video.
 I suppose that since these are proprietary materials of the
 broadcasting (CBS, NBC, ABC) companies  who  covered  them,
 then their Archive Departments would be the best resource.

      Therefore, would  anybody  know  their  phone  numbers
 and/or  address?  I would guess they are all located in New
 York.

                                      -TEG
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Ivan Lendl's Tournament Titles
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:56:41 GMT

    In the Benson and Hedges final against Gomez,  Lendl had
one game where he served four consecutive aces.  The following
game,  Gomez opened up with a service ace of his own.

    Lendl also had another match where he won after a rain delay.
I think this was North Conway against Higueras.  He won the first
set when it rained.   This cancelled the match, and they had
to reschedule some two months later.  Lendl won the match
seven minutes later.

     I also recall watching a year-end match (was it Hartford)
where Jim Simpson (who used to work with Cliff Drysdale in the
old days of ESPN when ESPN covered a *lot* of tennis -- almost
all the WCT matches)  and said that Lendl would win a million
dollars just one ESPN telecasts alone.   Note, the number of
WCT matches won.

    Actually, this happened because Lamar Hunt who ran WCT
broke off with ATP and set up his own tour.  It was a
pretty lucrative tour, which is what attracted Lendl.
However, I don't think it was such a profitable one, so he
had to make up with ATP and make some concessions.  At
the time, there were two sets of rankings for the men's.
One was WCT and one was ATP.   Needless to say, Lendl topped
the WCT computers (I hope!).

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu (Rao V. Akella)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: TeamTennis playoffs?
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:31:00 GMT
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I caught this on PSN Tuesday evening.  The final score, in case anyone's
interested, was 30 games won by Atlanta Thunder to 17 games to the Newport
Beach Dukes.

P.S. Never having seen TeamTennis before, I found the format a little strange.
I was a bit surprised at how vehemently Martina contested a couple of the
questionable line calls (especially because the Atlanta team was winning quite
comfortably at that point).  Is this how she always is, or was she trying to
whip up the crowd participation a bit?

-- Rao Akella    <rao@moose.cccs.umn.edu, rao%moose@umnacvx.bitnet>
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: Over-wraps
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 02:40:42 GMT

In article <66545@hydra.gatech.EDU>, gt4650c@prism.gatech.EDU (Tim Anderson) writes:
> As a followup to the discussion about grip size, I would like to add that
> I prefer to underestimate grip size on new racquets for two reasons:
> 
> 1.  You can always have the grip size "built-up" at a later time if you
>     wish.  I don't know about how well this holds up over heavy use though.
>     This also has a major drawback of still using the small endcap on the
>     racquet.  Therefore it's easier for the racquet to slip out of the
>     hand.

   Of course, finding someone who properly build up a grip may
be hard to find.  I have yet to see advertising for this.
(I wonder if Bosworth takes orders from regular folks -- probably
not).

> Right now I prefer the Prince Overwrap but I haven't tried "What-a-grip"
> yet.  I remember some people posted that they liked it despite it's 
> awful name.  Does anyone have any recommendations for wraps that are 
> more absorbent or more "tacky" (as in sticky, not tasteless :-) than the
> Prince?  I'm a Northerner living down here in the oppressive humidity of
> a Georgia summer so it doesn't take long for my hand and racquet to get 
> soaking wet.  
> 

    You probably want something that doesn't absorb at all.
I believe the synthetic grips (replacement grips) don't
absorb sweat, and hence never get "soaked", and lose their
grip. 

    I tried What-a-grip.  The main advantage was that I have
this habit of causing the overwrap stuff to slip.  I tend
to "pull down" on the grip.  Since What-a-grip isn't 
wrapped around like most overwraps, this doesn't
occur.  However, I have also used certain grips
which stick to themselves and don't slip so much.  The
Prince Super-Dry grip seems to do this.  The problem
I have with What-a-grip is that it feels a bit slippery.
However, if you invert it (i.e., turn it inside out), the
inside has a better grip since it is a bit rougher.

   Also, some people like the VS grips which appear to
be a bit rubbery as well.  I've never tried that.  I have
tried the Dunlop and do not like it.  It feels too much
like felt.  You may wish to use that, however.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu
From: adolce@bbn.com (Anne Dolce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.tennis
Subject: Re: Gold, Silver, Bronze/2...
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:36:32 GMT
Organization: Bolt, Beranek & Newman, Inc.
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In article <1992Aug12.142450.29491@westford.ccur.com>, dla@westford.ccur.com (Dave Anderson) writes:
|> 
|>   I'm curious as to how Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario managed to get a bronze
|>   medal in Barcelona.  Didn't she lose her last two matches?  Or was
|>   it determined in advance that there would be two bronze medals given
|>   no matter what?  Or perhaps medal was issued in deference to Spain 
|>   being the host country? 
|> 

   Arantxa only lost one singles match, that being her semi-final
   match against Jennifer Capriati.  Completely separate awards
   are given for doubles (in which Arantxa got a silver).

   For some reason, Olympic tennis has decided to award both
   losing semi-finaliats a bronze medal instead of having them
   play an extra match.


Anne
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From: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles Lin)
Subject: Re: TeamTennis playoffs?
Reply-To: clin@eng.umd.edu (Charles C. Lin)
Organization: College of Engineering, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:41:40 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.191506.11054@cs.ucla.edu>, page@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Thomas Page) writes:
> This is not that uncommon a doubles strategy.  I see it in college matches quite
> frequently.  The net player typically signals to the server with an open or
> closed fist behid their back which side they will
> break towards.  We used to call this "Australian" formation (did you Australians
> call it "American"?).  With this strategy, 50% of the returns go to the net
> player as opposed to the conventional formation where the in coming server has
> to half volley 90% of the returns.  The trade off is the room left down both
> lines.

   Are you sure this is the Australian formation?   I thought
the Australian formation was to have the server and his partner
standing on the same side of the court (typically, it's opposite
with the server on the deuce court, and the partner on the
ad court).  That way, the returner is forced to return down the
line (unless they want to chance hitting it to the net man/woman).

   It sounds a little bit like poaching.   Anyway, Martina was
neither standing completely in the ad or the deuce court.  I
have seen players duck when someone in the back was trying to
hit an overhead,  but this is the first time I have seen this
formation to start off a point.

--
Charles Lin
clin@eng.umd.edu

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From: m14430@mwunix.mitre.org (Lawrence Larson)
Subject: Re: Connors says young guys don't cut it
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 15:46:51 GMT

bohy6489@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:

>I was flipping through channels last night when I got to ESPN and saw them
>interviewing Jimmy Connors.  This would have been around 6:20 pm (central).  I
>did not watch the whole interview, but Jimmy basically said that people like
>guys like he and McEnroe because they have "style", while the young players of
>today do not.

Connors was on Roy Firestone's show for the full half-hour, and it was the
first of at least two installments. Connors referred to the tradition
maintained by Segura, Gonzalez, Nastase, Gerulaitis, Mac, and himself of
interacting with the crowd, thereby providing more than just excellent
tennis to watch. This was the context for all his comments - the term "style"
does not accurately convey what Connors meant. He wasn't knocking the younger
players, but analyzing what tennis needs to appeal to the non-tennis-fanatic.

He discussed the upcoming Navratilova handicap match at length, and sounded
sincere in describing his desire to re-kindle the tennis interest of the
BJK-Riggs days.

He was, for Jimmy, quite analytical and lucid.

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