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Newsgroups: aus.jokes
Subject: ANY key    (was Re: amusing system errors)
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 10:11:47 +1000

In a msg on <Sep 22 04:49>, Ian Staples writes:

 IS> Back in the days of BASIC on the Tandy TRS-80 Model I, the 
 IS> humorists among the cognoscente would laughingly respond to a 
 IS> "Hit any key" prompt in a student's program by hitting <Break>
 IS>  or <Ctrl-C>.  Mean bastards.

I recall that there were a few POKE commands which could be used to disable the
BREAK key.  Which could cause a problem if implemented before the rest of the
program was thoroughly debugged :-)

TRS-80 model-I's didn't have a Ctrl key.

Craig

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Newsgroups: aus.jokes
From: gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond)
Subject: Re: As long as we beat New Zealand
Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge & Young, Melbourne, Australia
	<thos.717714578@suite.sw.oz.au>
	<1992Sep30.013356.10398@mailhost.ocs.mq.edu.au>
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:14:17 GMT


Craig> I think the best version was the DAAS and Barry Crocker, but I think this
Craig> was left off Rage (At least when I taped it). Hopefully it will be on the 
Craig> video.

It is.
--
Gregory Bond <gnb@bby.com.au> Burdett, Buckeridge & Young Ltd, Melbourne 
That's *Mister* Chief Pointyhead to you.
From: Darius.Ignasiak@p4.f359.n633.z3.fidonet.org (Darius Ignasiak)
Sender: acsnet@csource.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.jokes
Subject: Re: Jokes DIR/REGabout
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 09:30:21 +1000

Watch out NATHAN!
Here's what you said about Jokes DIR/REGabout! 

 >> Just where the hell is New Zealand anyway?

 NW> Isn't that a province of Tasmania?

actually last i headr they were planning to dam it and no one objected :-)

Darius

 * Origin: Hey! listen UP! or I'll send Horatio over!.. (3:633/359.4)
From: s315959@parasol.cs.uq.oz.au (Dan "Sam" Miles)
Newsgroups: aus.jokes
Subject: Re: toxic things
Keywords: funny.... oo-er
Date: 2 Oct 92 02:47:59 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Science, Queensland Uni, Australia

Actually, I find the TCWF absolutely pathetic.


- Sam
Newsgroups: aus.jokes
From: wstreet@netcom.com (William Street)
Subject: Re: How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:26:57 GMT

In article <1992Oct3.013508.14024@physiol.su.OZ.AU> johnd@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Dodson) writes:
>
>How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
>
>Um? one I think, you push this big red button don't you ?
>
>Shit where did that Turkish destroyer go ?
>
>
>johnd@physiol.su.oz.au
>
>PS: Can anybody think of a race on earth they would least trust with a Big
>Red button that could blow the earth to the shit house than the Americans ?

Yeh.  Aussies!!
From: ugoni@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.jokes
Subject: Re: t.c.w. files
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:03:26 +1000
Organization: Computer Centre, Monash University, Australia

In article <martin.717693771@marsh>, martin@cs.curtin.edu.au (Martin Dougiamas) writes:
> gps@ecr.mu.oz.au (Gavin_Paul SMITH) writes:
>>Does anyone actually find the Toxic Custard Workshop files funny ?
>>I'm into my 4th year on the net and are yet to get a chuckle ..
>>Is it just that I've been doing Chem Eng too long or are these files
>>simply un-funny ?????
> 
> You've been doing Engineering too long.  Subtlety is lost on you.
> *I* find them funny.  But then I also love "A Bit of Laurie and Fry"
> on ABC (Monday nights, 9:30)... great stuff.
> --
> ,------------------------------------------------------------.      _ .
> | I don't want no diversion           Martin Dougiamas.      |   _r| Ll\
> | I don't need no bread and jam    martin@cs.curtin.edu.au   |  |  |    \
> | I wanna breathe the air             Curtin University      |  \  |_   /
> | and be exactly where I am.      Perth, Western Australia  -+-> x~  `-'
> `==== Robyn Hitchcock ======================================='        V

Am I too understand that for 4 years you've been continuously reading the TCWF
even after the first six months of no gags. No offence, but that is funny.

Ant
From: voros@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Joe Voros)
Newsgroups: aus.jokes
Subject: Re: New Question from your favorite Antipode
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:44:05 +1000
Organization: Physics Department, Monash University, Australia.

erhellfr@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Edgar Hellfritsch) writes:
> 
>   Are Aussies marsupials?

...and other blitheringly stupid questions deleted.

> Your favourite Antipode,
> --------------------------------------------------------
> Edgar Hellfritsch                                  |/
>  And as you travel down life's highway,           (o)
>  Don't forget to stop and eat the turnips.        uu )o
> e-mail erhellfr@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de ~~~~~~~~~
> --------------------------------------------------------

To which the response, Edgar, is ...
                                                   |
                                                 --+--
                                              /         \
                                             /     |/    \
                                          --+---- (+) ----+--
                                             \    uu )o  /
                                               \~~~~~~~ /
                                                 --+-- 
                                                   |  

-- 
Joe Voros
Department of Physics, Monash University, Clayton, VIC, 3168, Australia.
voros@physics.monash.edu.au
Quantum Mechanics is God's way of telling you to mind your P_i's and Q_j's.
From: gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond)
Newsgroups: aus.jokes.d
Subject: Re: As long as we beat New Zealand
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:26:58 GMT
	<9227015.23884@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>
Distribution: aus
Organization: Burdett, Buckeridge & Young, Melbourne, Australia


>> anyone got the 25 editions of Stairway to Heaven?     :-)

I was given a copy of the video last night; haven't looked at it yet.

However, it comes with basically no cover notes.  Unlike the cassette
(don't know about the CD) which has about 40cm of fold-out notes,
including a very funny paragraph on each version.   Worth the price
of the cassette just to read the notes!

That Denton is one seriously sick man.
--
Gregory Bond <gnb@bby.com.au> Burdett, Buckeridge & Young Ltd, Melbourne 
That's *Mister* Chief Pointyhead to you.
Newsgroups: aus.jokes.d
From: brom@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (David Bromage)
Subject: Re: steve vizard
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 23:22:41 GMT

Simon Wail (sw@koel.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU) wrote:
: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman) writes:
: >a) A very good lawyer who wrote his own contract with a TV channel
: >giving him one hour every week night so he can get his friends to host
: >a TV program with his name on it
: 		       ^^^^^^^^^^
: You might not have noticed but Channel 7 subtly changed the name to just
: "Tonight Live" - the Steve Vizard has been removed.  Is this the beginning of
: the end of Steve Vizard hosting the show - YEH!!!!!!

Do you know that there are some people who have seen the show more times
than Steve's hosted it?

Cheers
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Monash University                                : "I think thinking is 
Clayton, Victoria   				 :  so important"
 Australia                                       : 	-Baldrick
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     May the source be with you			 :     
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	my personal opinions.
From: lc@goanna.cs.rmit.oz.au (leon)
Newsgroups: aus.jokes.d
Subject: Re: How many US navy men does it take to change a light bulb ?
Date: 6 Oct 92 03:56:30 GMT
Followup-To: aus.jokes.d
Organization: Comp Sci, RMIT, Melbourne, Australia

In article <1992Oct5.070936.7965@cltr.uq.OZ.AU> mattd@cltr.uq.oz.au (Matthew Deshon) writes:
>johnd@physiol.su.OZ.AU (John Dodson) writes:
>
>>PS: Can anybody think of a race on earth they would least trust with a Big
>>Red button that could blow the earth to the shit house than the Americans ?
>
>Yes: any muslim fundamentalist you care to name.  

Yusef Islam ?
Newsgroups: aus.jokes.d
From: sw@koel.mel.dit.CSIRO.AU (Simon Wail)
Subject: Re: steve vizard
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 03:55:40 GMT

andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman) writes:
>a) A very good lawyer who wrote his own contract with a TV channel
>giving him one hour every week night so he can get his friends to host
>a TV program with his name on it
		       ^^^^^^^^^^
You might not have noticed but Channel 7 subtly changed the name to just
"Tonight Live" - the Steve Vizard has been removed.  Is this the beginning of
the end of Steve Vizard hosting the show - YEH!!!!!!

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From: s897460@rubicon (Alicia Ng)
Newsgroups: aus.jokes.d
Subject: Re: ANU
Date: 2 Oct 92 08:09:11 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: rubicon.bf.rmit.oz.au

chris@state.COM.AU (Chris Keane) writes:

>tony@suite.sw.oz.au (Tony McGrath) writes:

>>In <hoahosth.31.714581178@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au> hoahosth@halls1.cc.monash.edu.au (ANDREA HOSTH) writes:

>>>Hi. Shok Kuan Ho is looking for Mei Ling Liew, Law Faculty, 1st Year at ANU. 
>>>If you know her, ask her to call Shok Kuan - its urgent.
>>>Her number is (03) 5448133xtn365. Anyone from ANU who reads this notice and 
>>>wants to have Shok Kuan in your debt forever (or five minutes, whichever com 
>>>es first) please write this down (in big letters) and post it on the 
>>>noticeboard in the Law Faculty. It is REALLY urgent.

>>>Ankh

>>I don't get it. Maybe I need my humor gland replaced.

>Hmmm...maybe you should have your american-spelling-detect-and-destroy
>gland replaced in the same service.

>:-)

Well, is this meant to be a joke ?!  If so, I will try to laugh..... 
Newsgroups: aus.jokes.d
From: info301a1@cc.newcastle.edu.au (Manfred Hanley)
Subject: Re: toxic thinREAD/NEW
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 02:24:27 GMT

In article <581@parasol.cs.uq.oz.au>, s315959@parasol.cs.uq.oz.au (Dan "Sam" Miles) writes:
> Actually, I find the TCWF absolutely pathetic.
> 
> - Sam
... and, actually, I find them mostly quite amusing. As always, people have
different tastes so, instead of wasting time with the usual "I agree"
"I disagree", etc... routine, why don't you just accept that they're going to
be posted. Or, if it _really_ disturbs you, put it in your kill file.

Manfred.
Newsgroups: aus.jokes.d
From: mdj@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew douglas james)
Subject: Re: As long as we beat New Zealand
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 04:45:56 GMT

gnb@duke.bby.com.au (Gregory N. Bond) writes:


>>> anyone got the 25 editions of Stairway to Heaven?     :-)

>I was given a copy of the video last night; haven't looked at it yet.

>However, it comes with basically no cover notes.  Unlike the cassette
>(don't know about the CD) which has about 40cm of fold-out notes,
>including a very funny paragraph on each version.   Worth the price
>of the cassette just to read the notes!

>That Denton is one seriously sick man.
Yeah, it's great isn't it !!

>--
>Gregory Bond <gnb@bby.com.au> Burdett, Buckeridge & Young Ltd, Melbourne 
>That's *Mister* Chief Pointyhead to you.

Matthew James
From: ewartd@emu.insted.unimelb.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.jokes
Subject: Re: Lada jokes
Date: 5 Oct 92 22:54:16 GMT

In article <29@hymir.mlb.dmt.csiro.au>, gsl@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Geoff Lamb) writes:
> 
> Q. What is the difference between the Jehovah's Witnesses and a Lada? (small car made in Russia.)
> 
> A. You can shut the door on the Jehovah's Witnesses.
> 
> 
> 
> Q. Why do Lada's have rear window heaters?
> 
> A. To keep your hands warm when you are pushing it.
> 
> 
> A guy walked into the Service Station and asked "do you have a rear view mirror for a Lada?" to which the Attendent replied "Sounds like a fair swap to me."
> 
> Geoff
>

Geoff isn't the only one to find Ladas somewhat bemusing.  A few weeks back on
3RRR FM (102.7 9 -> 10 am Sun) show "Bumper to Bumper" a phone in caller had a
problem with his Lada that reduced the expert team to total blithering wrecks!
Poor guy even began to defend his useless vehicle . . .

A few months back I met with a russian professor of economics.  An RMIT
lecturer, who shall remain nameless Jim, told him he'd bought a Lada to support
soviet industry.  The look on the Prof's face was priceless!  Absolute
disbelief.

In defence of Jim though, his Lada has been right across the country with only
a few problems  . . . 

Don


 
> -- 
> Geoff Lamb, CSIRO Div of Manufacturing Tech,     Phone: +61 3 487 9295
> Locked Bag No. 9, Preston, Vic, 3072, Australia. Fax: +61 3 484 0878
> Internet: gsl@mlb.dmt.csiro.au                  
Newsgroups: aus.jokes
From: ianst@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au (Ian Staples)
Subject: DOS-PEROT
Organization: Qld Dept Primary Industries
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:46:20 GMT

In Article: 2623 of aus.general les@itcsyd.itc.oz.au (Les Pall) writes:

>"... and then there's the new desktop Operating System: DOS-PEROT.
>When you boot it up, it gives you a message that 'its thinking about running'.
>It then quickly scans the hard disk drive for competing operating systems
>and, if it finds one, it quits."
>
Given the state of competition from both of the the PC world's dominant
operating systems, it's not surprising that DOS-PEROT has rebooted...

Ian S.



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Newsgroups: aus.jokes
Subject: Re: steve vizard
From: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 2 Oct 1992 01:05:36 GMT
Reply-To: meachen@med.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ
NNTP-Posting-Host: blade.wcc.govt.nz

In article <1992Oct2.001423.27494@cs.su.oz.au>, allanc@cs.su.oz.au (Restless Wanderer) writes:
>
>Police fish a body out of Sydney Harbour,the body was covered in prawns.
>After the police had placed the body on board the boat,they searched for ID.
>Police  " Well madam what do you wish us to do ?"
>Woman   " ...sell the prawns,send me the check and chuck the bait back in "

She must have been a kiwi & he must have been telling NZer jokes.

:-) :-) :-)




Red
From: rxtajp@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Andrew Pettifer)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: TP250P VGA Monitor Repairs
Keywords: VGA Monitor Repairs Melbourne Total-Peripherals
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:27:00 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: RMIT Computer Centre
NNTP-Posting-Host: minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au

cmg@mundil.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Christian Gersch) writes:

>matthias@ecr.mu.OZ.AU (Matthias_Markus LANG) writes:

>>I'm not particularly happy with that sort of service, but if the monitor works
>>then one week and $65 wasn't too bad. One other note, their repair shop had maybe
>>six or seven computers in it, and about 20 monitors of type TP250P or TP250N. This
>>indicates a design fault, IMO. 

>I had a TP monitor. It stopped working under warranty, and they replaced it,
>without even checking that I had it plugged in. This implies that they were
>having trouble with them. Then after my warranty was up, the new monitor died
>in the same way. I took it down to them, and it cost me $60 for them to fix.

>Unfortunately for me, hours (literally) after I dropped it off to be fixed, I
>was speaking to someone who had much experience with these monitors, and he
>said it was a resistor (or two) in the power supply, and that it was a VERY
>common problem. He told me it was easy to fix with a 50c Tandy resistor.

>That's why they just replaced my monitor under warranty - they knew they'd get
>their $65 bucks when the resistor gave up.

>I saw a similar monitor/cpu box ratio too!

>Christian

>---
>.sig lost

I've fixed 3 of those monitors myself, all with EXACTLY the same fault, and
within a period of 2 months. In the power supply.

As far as i can determine the fault is caused by a resistor (300k ohm i think)
going open circuit.
But what happens is that once that resistor goes open, the power mosfet
self destructs and takes out the bridge resistor and then lastly the fuse.

I would NEVER recommend anyone to buy an el-cheapo  monitor, i have worked
in a number of places that sell or import computers from countries like
Singapore and Taiwan.
And my impression of the quality of the equipment they sell is this:

YOU WONT GET MORE THAN YOU PAY FOR!

If the computers are cheap (and most, if not all from those countries are)
then you will get a machine that was made cheaply.
If you buy one and don't have trouble, then you are very lucky.
BUT  i would EXPECT to have problems, including poor quality monitors,
power supplies in the computer blowing up, strange motherboard errors, etc.
Not to mention the totally lousy service, and the contempt that management
from those countries has for local staff and customers.

DON'T BUY CHEAP JUNK!

(Did i mention companies like KT Technology & Multitech computers? Nah,
i wouldn't do that).
Newsgroups: aus.computers
From: johnw@bnd2.bnd.oz.au (John Warburton)
Subject: Re: 8mm video tapes
Organization: B&D Doors, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 22:35:08 GMT

From article <br.717044394@sirius>, by br@melb.bull.oz.au (Bret Robinson):
> Can anyone tell me where in Melbourne I would be able to get some 
> 120 minute 8mm video tapes for exabyte drives. It doesn't really
> matter whether they are video or data grade tapes. I can only
> seem to be able to find 90 minute tapes as the longest. Thanks
> in advance.
> 
Once, in my ill-advised youth, I went on the same search & found that they
are only for American markets and are not available for purchase in 
Australia.  Bad luck there.

IMHO:
I assume that you want the tape to do backups? If you do, I would 
heartily reccommend the purchase of data grade tapes. Sure they are a
bit more expensive (just a bit too much more for tape cut from the same sheet)
but it is worthwhile insurance for you backups. 

Just think for a moment - what if your backups failed because you wrote to
"cheaper" tapes? Or that you couldn't read that vital piece of information
from 8 months ago? The extra amount is a worthwhile piece of insurance.
Sure, I junk some of my Exabyte tapes, but no where near as many as when I was
using video tapes.

Also, the market is pretty tight out there, so just find 2 tape suppliers and
be real nasty, and play each other off for the lowest price per tape. When DAT
came out, I went from $38 per tape to $22 with freebies thrown in. This was an
order for 50 tapes though.

A worthwhile investment IMHO.

John
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From: george.rossi@f600.n713.z3.fido.zeta.org.au (George Rossi)
Newsgroups: aus.computers
Subject: HOW TO GET PROGRAMS
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:44:15 GMT
Organization: Fidonet. Gate admin is fido@socs.uts.edu.au

Original to: Pwb@newt.phys.unsw.edu.au
Hello Paul,
The purpose of this mail is to 
(a) give you a return address for me on Fidonet
(b) obtain instructions re how to get files from the internet using mail to
an ftp site.
Thanks for any help you can give re the above.
Regards George (Powerhouse)

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Newsgroups: aus.computers
From: hunter@bacchus.esa.oz.au (James Gardiner [Hunter])
Subject: Re: US MODEMS
Organization: none
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 04:46:28 GMT

In <9917@kralizec.zeta.org.au> craig@kralizec.zeta.org.au (Craig Dewick) writes:

>You are much better advised to stick to Australian manufacturers, as
>their products MUST meet Telecom spces before being sold. I'm sure
>there are some shonky dealers selling imported modems at ridiculously
>cheap prices, but you bear the risks, and the legal consequences, if
>what you use causes damage to the Austel network.
It is not illegal to sell non Austel approved modems as long as
you do not hide the fact and inform the buyer that it is illegal
to connect it to a PSTN (phone line).
They are NOT ridiculously cheap prices.  Australian modem makers
should be able to archive similar prices sooner or later.
Australia has a small market and a very high approvel price.
(Also Australians are greedy).  Thats what keeps them so expensive.

I understand and support Austel rules however.  Why should modems
that cost $300US in america cost at least $1000 here and not be
as good as the $300 american modems.  The price difference here is
just not withing reason.

Australia can produce other electronic equipment at reasonable prices.
Why not modems?


I hear the newly released Bitblitzer Aust modem is good. (and cheapish)
Does v32bis/v42bis etc and should do fax soon.



James
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Newsgroups: aus.computers.amiga,comp.sys.amiga.marketplace
From: paulg@tplrd.tpl.oz.au (Paul Gittings)
Subject: (OZ) Books for sale
Originator: paulg@sydrd19
Organization: Telectronics Pacing Systems
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 04:58:00 GMT


Just started spring cleaning and I have the following to sell (I want some
of my desk space back :) ).
(titles may not be exactly correct I left the list at home :-( )

  Abacus: Inside AmigaDOS (covers AmigaDOS 1.3) $10
  Abacus: Amiga Assembler programming           $10
  Abacus: Amiga System Programming              $15
  Abacus: Advanced Amiga System Programming     $15
  AmigaWorld AmigaDOS 2.0 Companion             $15
  RKM: Libraries and Devices (covers 1.3)       $25
  RKM: Includes and Autodocs (covers 1.3)       $25
  RKM: Hardware manual (covers 1.3)             $25

 
I also have some old AmigaWorld magazines for sale as well (couple of bucks
each).
  
Cheers,
Paul Gittings
Telectronics Pacing Systems- 7 Sirius Rd, Lane Cove, NSW 2066, Australia
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opinions on its behalf.


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