From: uhclem@nemesis.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.sys.tandy
Subject: Re: Terminal program for TRS80 model 4
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:23:00 GMT
Nf-ID: #R:news2.cis.umn.edu:22335:nemesis:-30999:000:3177
Nf-From: nemesis.UUCP!uhclem    Aug 25 22:23:00 1992


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Stahl Writes:
[0]Well Mr. Tandy, why don't you supply the questioner with the
[0]deskmate for the Model 4. 

I can't.  That is a copyrighted product.  Apart from being illegal, if I
was caught, I would also be fired instantly.  It is the same as stealing
from a store.


[0]This is what the termcap entry is that he has referenced.
[0]That termcap did work with just fine.

I REALIZE that was the termcap for DESKMATE TERMINAL.  But that was the point.
The original requestor had COMM, NOT DESKMATE, and wanted to use COMM.
"I need a tire iron."  "Ok, here is a refrigerator."  Doesn't make sense to me.


[0]It also could be copied to about any machine and also function.
[0]Come on, help a poor computer user and get him a copy of deskmate 
[0]for the Model 4.

I would recommend ANY other terminal emulator program for the Model 4,
even some written in BASIC.  Deskmate Terminal escape sequences are not
compatible with any standard terminal type, and any data rate over 2400
baud drops characters all the time.  Even 2400 can be unreliable.  The
same holds true on the IBM PC side of the Deskmate street.  On the other
hand, I have run COMM reliably at 9600 baud and other, smarter packages
at 9600 as well.  I have even used COMM at 19,200 baud, but it dropped
characters.  Try DTERM at 9600 baud sometime and see what happens!


Scott then writes:
[1]Go to Radio Shack and order it.  It should still be available.   I think
[1]it used to be $99.  Seeing as how Deskmate is copyrighted, giving
[1]people copies of it over the net would not be too smart.
 

Stahl then Writes:
[0]I tried to get it several months ago. It is no longer available. 

It may not be in the stores, but it may still be available via special
order.  Try asking for it that way.  Some mail-order companies also carry
older packages like this.  Contact Computer News 80 or Pacific Computer
Exchange.

The XENIX Console Emualtor terminal package worked pretty well, but
cost too much at the original $99.95.  If you can find it for a lot
cheaper (like $15), take it.  The catalog number is 26-1599.

There are shareware and public domain solutions too that work equally well
if not better.


[0]The person who gave the origunal answer works for Tandy.  
[0]Take a look at his mailbox address.

Isn't that amazing?  All that means is I have good reason to know the
right answers to questions that are asked.  Should I stop?


[0]He **can** supply the software all legal. (if he wanted to).  Good Luck!!

No I CAN'T.  Even if a product or book is out of print doesn't mean you
can start handing copies of it out without asking permission from the
publisher.  IT'S ILLEGAL!   In 47 years, it may be ok if Tandy doesn't
renew the copyright.  Until then, its infringement.

Please read the US Copyright law, as you are apparently unfamiliar with it.
Also be aware that the FBI and the SPA reads this net and would be quite
interested in what you are suggesting.  

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