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From: shawn@marilyn.marilyn.mn.org (Shawn P. Stanley)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6.0 *still* isn't in Seattle
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:55:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: marilyn.PqXwiB2w163w
Organization: Litfal +1 612 929 5181

karsten@pnet51.orb.mn.org (E. Karsten Smelser) writes:
>    It's impossible to get sys6 around the cities!  One Apple dealer says
> it is not scheduled for release until May 15, 1992 - and they probably
> won't carry it anyway.  (He also said that he was sick of all the IIGS
> users calling and buggung him for the last 4 months - pretty rude).

First Tech is usually pretty good about that sort of thing.  If they've
been one of the less helpful dealers, you could call Apple on them.

Anyhow, I've seen System 6.0 on a local BBS.  Also, I've decided to go
the route of ordering the upgrade package from Byte Works, since they
can provide System 6.0, ORCA upgrades, and manuals for a very good
price.  (Of course, I haven't received* the package yet, but... :-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: greis@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gayla Ann Greis)
Subject: Re: FontSel 1/1
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 22:00:51 GMT


In article <92102.000531TJK111@psuvm.psu.edu> TJK111@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>FontSel 0.31 a CDEV by Jay Krell that will display the fonts in your Font Menu
>in the Font that they are. You should have a point size 10 for each of your
>fonts to display quickly. Pointless users will see Pointless try to make a
>size 10 font for every TT font you have active just to display in the menu. So
>use Save Bitmap to crete what you need and save time. GSCII 2.3.1 and GSHK 1.05
>Documentation included.

Uhh... Doesn't pointless only save a 12 point font bitmap? I haven't been
able to save selectable sizes... (Otherwise I'd be using Davy's Other Dings)
From: x9999bns@maple.circa.ufl.edu (David Isaacson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: ResLin
Date: 9 Apr 92 20:56:10 GMT
Reply-To: X9999BNS%oak.decnet@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: The CIRCA Underground

Can someone please post ResLin to cba2 or tell me where to find it. Archie says
it's on wuarchive but it wasn't in the directory it said, and archive.umich has
been having trouble recently.

Thanks,

David Isaacson           VAX:  Fraenhawk@maple.circa.ufl.edu
                               X9999BNS@maple.circa.ufl.edu

                         Unix: fhawk@nerix.nerdc.ufl.edu
From: rheinze@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: GScii+
Date: 15 Apr 92 17:19:43 GMT
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC

Where can I get a copy of GScii+?
This is a NDA on my system and I have finally decided that
it is not working.  Or maybe I don't know how to work it.
From: edward@pro-ren.cts.com (Edward Floden)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Reading a DOS 3.3 Text File
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:16:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr07.061618.23475
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

No, the Subject doesn't refer to MS-DOS. :)

I need a simple program, written in either Applesoft or assembly, which
will read a DOS 3.3 random-access text file. The program must be as short
as possible, and must direct the output to PR#1. The program must be short,
because I'll need to type it in before I can use it. DOS 3.3 will be loaded
at that time, so the program must work under that ancient OS. (Heck, if I
were using ProDOS, writing this myself would be a cinch.)

Why do I need this? I've got some ASCII text files on a copy-protected 5.25
disk, which is using a non-standard track format (probably half- or
quarter-tracks). I need to transfer these files onto a disk with a standard
track format. I can access the files by booting the program that created
them (copy-protected, of course), then control-resetting. The directory is
fine, and the files are readable, at least up to the first ASCII $00.
But obviously, a simple INPUT loop won't read all of the data, as an
end-of-data error occurs when the first null is encountered.

So, since I can't copy the file to a 'normal' disk while the weird DOS is
loaded, I thought that I could read the files and direct them to the printer
port, and from there through a null modem to another II. Piece o' cake under
ProDOS, but DOS 3.3 can't BLOAD text files. :(
____________________________________________________________________________
edward@pro-ren.cts.com            Just ][ It!             TechRen User Group
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: System 6 Launcher!
From: blender@oread.cc.ukans.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 14:35:19 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Serces

I was wondering.....

A few days ago, I was fiddling with my system disk, and deleted tool 34. Then I
tried to run GSHK. 

Consequently, Shrinkit bombed out (BTW, I'm glad to see that system 6
automaticly catches bad tool calls, and says which toolset is missing), and
GSOS tried to load the Finder.

THEN the finder bombed out (still missing tool 34) and THEN a launcher program
showed up. Just a nice little launcher, like what in the orgional Prodos 16.

My question is, is this launcher available within applications, or is it just
for when the finder bombs out? And would the guys from Apple consider making it
available from every 16-bit application?

Enquring minds REALLLY want to know!


Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: bazyar@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Jawaid Bazyar)
Subject: Re: ir2
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 20:38:55 GMT

fadden@uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) writes:

>Can you isolate this as any of the following:

>    - a GS/ShrinkIt problem
>    - an HFS FST problem       <<< - This baby
>    - a system 6.0 problem

>I guess what I SHOULD have said is, "if the file unpacks without errors,
>then you can assume that the ARCHIVE is okay."  You'd have to do a CRC on
>the on-disk file itself to verify that IT was okay.

>Given the reports we've been having, I suggest people avoid using HFS
>partitions for active use...  Use them to store programs and data, but
>definitely do NOT use them to unpack stuff from GScii or GSHK.

  Before we start a panic, let me just say that I used an HFS partition
for GNO development for several months with no problems other than
with Edit-16: saving an edited file to an HFS partition results in
a 512 byte file, no matter how long it's supposed to be.  This is
related to the GScii problem, and it _has_ been reported through
the proper channels to Apple.
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 Procyon, Inc.              |   for the Apple IIgs!   (314) 334-7078
 bazyar@cs.uiuc.edu         |   1005 N. Kingshighway, Suite 309 
 --Apple II Forever!--      |   Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2,from.socal.com
From: bkogawa@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Bryan Ogawa)
Subject: Re: Sound to Sound
Organization: The Palmtree BBS - 310/450-9394 - Santa Monica, CA
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 02:22:21 GMT

hm...
I think the path may be shorter now :)
I did the following to get stuff that my next-door neighbor digitized on
his LC: (using the Control Panel Document Sound for Mac Sys. 7):
Digitize:
Find the System Folder, and the System document/whatever (it's called a
SUITCASE) and double-click:
find the sound I wanted...
copy to my HFS formatted 800K disk
plop it into my GS
Get AudioZap out and sic it on the files.
Click RESOURCE fork when it asks where to get the sound for.
Save it in any format you want.
Then, you can prob use SynthCreate to make a SYNTHLAB wavebank...

.....................................................................
Bryan K. Ogawa  Undergraduate Computer Science and Engineering Major
                University of California, Los Angeles
                II Infinitum!    
                Jesus has done great things for me!
Email me at the following addresses:
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From: amritc@pro-hindugods.cts.com (Amrit Chauhan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: System 6.0
Date: 17 Apr 92 05:09:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr17.050904.29447
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

I just got my copy of System 6.0 today!

Thanks...that's all I wanted to say. :-)

Amrit

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From: spock@incom.de (Martin Georg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Pointless first impressions
Date: 10 Apr 92 10:33:09 GMT
Organization: INCOM, Interessengemeinschaft Computer, Offenbach

In article <32378@darkstar.ucsc.edu> unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown Matt) writes:
>
>In art <1992Apr8.065523.17906@incom.de> spock@incom.de (Martin Georg) writes:
>}Well, the Apple IIgs operation system does not support application switching,
>}so you HAVE to prepare your formula in Formulate GS aside from your word 
>}processor. In general, Formulate GS uses object graphics to store its formula,
>
>	I have not used Formulate (I would _very_ much like to see the
>demo on comp.binaries.apple2 or some FTP site though!), so this idea is
>possibly not something that can actually be accomplished.
>	Is there any way Formulate could be done as an NDA?  Yes, it would
>take up _lots_ of memory most likely, but if someone has the memory to spare,
>it definitely would be an advantage over switching between the WP and 
>Formulate all the time.  [God, writing a huge report last year I had to switch
>between Word and SuperPaint on a Mac a zillion times.. They were Mac 512s
>without MultiFinder]
>

Well, the author told me that he definitely could do it but that's a question
where Seven Hills also is involved. For sure it would help a lot if you could
use it as an NDA. As far as memory is concerned: I think every "power" IIgs
shoudl have a harddisk, 4 megs of memory and a Zip/Transwarp. And then a 
Formulate GS NDA is nothing to huge ...

>}I don't know about such a word processor for the IIgs (I think that good word
>}processors for the IIgs are rare in general). Have you tried Mercury GS or
>}Medley GS???
>
>	What is Mercury GS?

Mercury GS is a IIgs word processor writte and sold my MECC. It was developed
for and under System 5.x, and in many aspects it looks like a carefully re-
designed Multiscribe GS. It has some very neat details, such as a preferences
for your font, international date and time formats for headers/footers, search
and replace with font attributes, a "set marker" and "goto marker" command,
spell checker and thesaurus, and some other pretty neat stuff. However, it
uses the same key-disk protection as other MECC products (it can be installed
on a harddisk easily, but you have to insert your original disk on startup). 

>-- 
>/unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu GS SIMM mem card & trackball WANTED  Apple II Forever!\
>\Mail me:Get INFOCOM GAMES RERELEASED,ULT VI GS done,for UNIX GS&CHEAP CD info/

Martin Georg

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 and Ramdisks
From: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 11:48:05 GMT
Organization: Actrix Information Exchange

In article <9204080451.AA21005@bluffs.scar.utoronto.ca> tcomtaob@BLUFFS.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao) writes:
>
>     On a related note (this is to everyone):  Anyone notice strange things
> happening when doing a disk-to-disk copy from a 3.5" disk to an 800K
> RAM disk with a ZipGS at 8 MHz or faster?  The floppy is read in, but when
> it comes to writing the data out to the RAM disk, the Finder ejects the
> 3.5 and promptly tells me that I shouldn't eject disks prematurely!!! 
> Honest to God, I didn't touch anything!

A question for you: do you have slot 6 set to "Normal" speed [Yes, I
mean Slot 6, not Slot 5].  I've found that the ZIP causes strange
behaviour on the 3.5" drive if slot 6 is accelerated.

The main symptom of this was that every time I tried to read a file
which was fragmented, with part of it at the start of the disk and the
rest at the end of the disk, using a single GS/OS READ call, the head
would start seeking back and forth forever.  I believe it was caused
by a timing problem during seek (software counting how far to seek,
checking which track it was on, seeing it was wrong, recalibrating, and
trying again ad infinitum).
Slowing down slot 6 (which contains the hardware for the SmartPort
interface) fixed the problem.

This may be a related problem.

Just a theory.


Anyway, I've copied 800k disks to /RAM5 (sorry, :RAM5) without any trouble.
-- 
David Empson

Internet: David.Empson@bbs.actrix.gen.nz    EMPSON_D@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Snail mail: P.O. Box 27-103, Wellington, New Zealand
From: stein5@pro-columns.cts.com (Scott Steinbrink)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Ftp.Apple.Com
Date: 7 Apr 92 14:39:07 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ProLine [pro-columns] Arlington, VA  703.237.4915


 Someome mentioned that System 6 is available there --
 I tried looking it up and couldn't find it?

 Where is it?
ProLine:  stein5@pro-columns
NetCom:  derich@netcom.com
CIS   :  76106,2055
Internet: stein5@pro-columns.cts.com
From: unknown@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (The Unknown Matt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 Problem
Date: 8 Apr 92 01:04:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: darkstar.32310
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz; Open Access Computing


In article <9204071923.AA09569@apple.com> STEIN@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU (Alan Stein) writes:
}  I've come up with a problem I've never had before I installed System 6:
}The reset key doesn't work sometimes.
}  I've found that my system bombs at times it never bombed before, and I'm
}unable to use the reset key to reboot.  I have to turn the power off, and
}then back on again.  (Not always, but sometimes.)

	INACTIVATE OR REMOVE EASY ACCESS from your system.

	Someone, PLEASE put this in the FAQ. It keeps getting asked
over and over and over and over and over and over, ad infinitim.
-- 
/unknown@ucscb.ucsc.edu                                    Apple IIGS Forever!\
\Mail me:Get INFOCOM GAMES RERELEASED,ULT VI GS done,for UNIX GS&CHEAP CD info/
From: jackm@pro-scat.cts.com (Jack Maher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: System 6 problems
Date: 9 Apr 92 11:19:05 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr09.111905.23519
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

David,  Just thought I'd try to inject a little positive note here.  

1)  I think System 6 is great!!  Thanks and congrats to you, Andy and
Apple!

2)  The level of support you've provided through this forum alone is
incredible.  Thanks again!

3)  See 1 & 2 -- I was just about to the point of giving up on Apple
altogether for new hardware.  Now I've completely turned that around, my
next new hardware (platform) will be a Mac.  This is 100% due to the
performance in the II series support of late!  (pass this along to the
management, they NEED to know!)

PS -- I'd never want to subject myself to the scrutiny and microscope you
guys are getting from the II community!  But your patience seems endless
with some of the repetitions I've already seen.  

Jack Maher -- damn happy with your work!
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From: derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu (Derek Taubert)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Nostalgia Contest
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:59:06 GMT
Article-I.D.: slab.1992Apr16.005906.8826
Reply-To: dat33228@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Organization: Damage Inc.


Well, I upgraded my ][ to a ][+ by swapping the ROMs with an Apple Language  
Card (still got em both).  I've got Applesoft on tape (had to load that just to  
run lemonade).  I have a working (and a couple of rolls of paper for a)  
SilentType printer.  Original black paddles (shipped with the ][ along with a  
Panasonic tape player that was standard equipment) with the radio-shack style  
buttons in the side.

Somewhere I've got pages of hand-written shape table code that I wrote in class  
in the 5th grade (for the space invader dudes, or something like that).

Derek
From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Laserwriter via serial port: answers still conflicting
Date: 11 Apr 92 12:26:52 GMT
Organization: The Internet
X-Unparsable-Date: Thu Apr 09 92 at 09:18:29 (EST)

> From: TMPLee@DOCKMASTER.NCSC.MIL
> It's amazing.  I'm still unable to get a definitive answer from anyone
> on whether the Laserwriter driver will work over the GS serial port.
> One respondent says definitely it will NOT work -- it will only work
> over Appletalk.  Another says all I have to do is rename it to something
> else (e.g., PostScript) and it *should* work fine.  Has anyone
> successfully done that?  Has anyone tried and conclusively failed?  (I
> haven't tried it yet because I know I at least have to cobble up a cable
> with the right connections of the data and RTS/CTS signals -- the one I
> have is some version of a standard "printer" cable that doesn't expect
> to have to transmit FROM the printer TO the computer.)

Yes, I HAVE TRIED TO CONNECT A POSTSCRIPT PRINTER UP THROUGH THE SERIAL PORT
directly. IT DOESN'T WORK. YOU MUST HAVE APPLETALK. Sorry, I thought I
explained that before.

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From: kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan)
To: tcomtaob@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)
Ppath: pro-nbs!pnet01!crash!apple.com!info-apple
Date: Thu Apr 09 92 at 09:29:14 (EST)
Ppath: pro-nbs!pnet01!crash!apple.com!info-apple
Subject: Re: Pointless problems

> From: tcomtaob@CHASM.SCAR.UTORONTO.CA (Brian Tao)

>     Last one (I promise)... some fonts don't render at all with Pointless.
> They all seem to be dingbat or ornamented cap fonts.  Cardiff, MortBats,
> Animal Dingbats and Crackling Fire are examples.  I had a copy of Zapf
> Dingbats which didn't work, but then obtained another one which *did*
> work.  Anyone have a clue what causes Pointless to give up?

Low memory. Lost pets, I don't know. I do know that SOME TT fonts (usually
shareware) have problems when Pointless attempts to generate large point
sizes. I've printed MortBats 48 fine. Ashley however the best I could get was
45 points. Crackling Fire worked fine at 48, There are still some though
(Davy'sKeyCaps) that I can't get to print at any better than 24 (All my
printing done on a Laserjet IIp using Harmonie with best quality, i.e. needing
a 4x version of the font being printed). 

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From: gmeiers@edsi.plexus.COM (Garrett Meiers)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Help,  keyboard key re-defining...
Date: 15 Apr 92 06:31:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: edsi.1992Apr15.063158.4405
Organization: Enterprise Data Systems Incorporated, Appleton WI

Hello, does anybody know of away to temporarly redifine certain keys on
the apple//c keyboard to do differnt things?  i.e. Control-D = CATALOG
In the prodos enviroment?

I think it should be able to be done because I used to do it with
Diversi-Dos awhile back...

Any help would be greatly apprecaited... Thanks in advance...
Please E-MAIL me at:


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: robm@ecr.mu.oz.au (Robert_Paul MUELLER)
Subject: help needed on _convseconds.
Keywords: convseconds
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:01:41 GMT

Help!

I'm looking for exact info on the _convseconds call in the miscellaneous
toolbox. I've tried various values, and I think I know the results, but
I want to be sure.

Also, i've noticed that a certain convertverb number will convert the
input number of seconds, to an ascii date and time, however the format
of this time is always determined by the setting in the battery RAM
(ie 24 hour or AM/PM format, date format, etc). Is there anyway I can
do a _convseconds call from a certain number of seconds to 24 hour format
without first saving the current BRAM setting, changing it, making the
call and then restoring the orignal value?

Any help would be appreciated.

Rob
robm@ecr.mu.oz.au

P.S. Why do I want to do it? Makes writing a stop watch a real breeeezzzzeee..

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: kreme@isis.cs.du.edu (Max Headshop)
Subject: Prosel-16 current version and Sys 6 compat info
Summary: What's the newest version
         Is it Sys 6 Compatible?
         How do I reach Glen Brendon?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 10:04:53 GMT

What is the newest version Prosel-16?

When I was installing System 6.0 I deleted everything from my boot partition,
including Prosel-16.  I can't seem to locate my disk now (stupid me), so
before I go ahead and order an update (I'm sure I need one) I was curious
if anyone could answer the wuestions in teh Summary?

What is the newest version?
Is it fully SYS 6.0 compatible (including FST's)?
How do I get ahold of Glen for the update (all that info was on the disk as
    far as I know).


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
From: roberta@psych.toronto.edu (Robert Atwood)
Subject: AW3.0 Spreadsheed Problem! 
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 01:19:10 GMT


Hi. I have just discovered that the Spreadsheet in my Appleworks 3.0
does order of operations WRONG! Example  1/2 + 1/4 = 0.375, or so it says!
This should be 0.75 according to what I learned in Grade 3.  It seems
to be calculating (1/2 +1)/4 for some reason.  Is there a patch for this, and
if so can I download it from somewhere using some combination of FTP, BINSCII
 and ShrinkIt?

Also I discovered that when you apply the patch from Applied Engineering
that comes with teh RamFactor, when you insert rows in teh spread sheet
it no longer shifts the rows that used to occupy that space down, it just
erases them, hence there is no way to insert rows. I guess you could move the
whole thing down, and then back upto a position just below, but it's easier to 
just not use that patch.  Harrumph.

Robert Atwood
roberta@psych.toronto.edu