From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: Freedom of Speech
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 01:00:02 GMT

In article <87833@netnews.upenn.edu> dww@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
(Michael DWC Wong) writes:
>In article <1992Sep3.022731.20269@leland.Stanford.EDU>
>underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
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>>We Americans must "teach" the Chinese-cu that they must respect the
>>rights and freedoms (including the right of self-determination) of 
>>people.  We must back up our commitment with the full arsenal of Western
>>and Northeast Asian military technical might.
>
>If you think you can teach a country to respect rights and freedom with
>military might, then you are wrong. Self-determination or democracy
>must come from within the people; it must be a change from the roots upwards.
>Using military force to teach other countries a lesson sounds pretty babaric
>to me.

Don't put words into my mouth.  Mr. Wong should actually read what I wrote.

I specifically included "teach" in quotes.  I oppose the use of military
force when there is no provocations.  Again, this is starkly different
from what the Chinese-cu have done and are doing in Tibet and Taiwan.

What I said in the above quote is that _if_ China attacks Taiwan,
which is entitled to self-determination, then S. Korea, Japan, and
the USA should intervene.  The moral justification is there.
China has _no_ right to send military forces to Taiwan to crush the
right of the Taiwanese-ge to self-determination.  _No_ right whatsoever.

If China does _not_ send military forces to invade Taiwan when it
declares its independence as a separate nation, then _nothing_ will
happen to China.  I hope that this statement is clear enough for Mr. Wong's
comprehension.  No one is advocating the use of force without provocation.

However, the Chinese gov't has explicitly stated that will seize
Taiwan by military force, even destroying it if necessary, to suppress
any moves for independence.  _If_ China sends military forces
to Taiwan to kill men, women, and children (!) just to suppress
self-determination, then Korea, Japan, and the USA should send
military forces to Taiwan to defend the Taiwanese people.  The Chinese-cu
_should_ be "taught" the consequences of killing women and children.

We Americans (and Asian-Americans) should support the RimPac92
military exercises.  The participating nations with their combined
military technical might can "teach" the Chinese-cu to keep their
sticks and stones away from Taiwan.

We Americans (and Asian-Americans) should show the Chinese-cu the
_fist_ of our resolve.  We did it in the form of NATO, which protected
Western Europe before the end of the Cold War.  We should do it again
to protect Taiwan and other nations in Asia.  The RimPac92 exercises
can serve as a stepping stone in the creation of a protective blanket like NATO
to ensure the security of Asia.

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