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From: Steve_Franklin@mindlink.bc.ca (Steve Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Fusion sugesstions
Date: 13 Apr 92 04:09:28 GMT
Article-I.D.: mindlink.11396
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

UZEB. Fusion (jazz-rock mostly) group from Montreal. Alain Caron on bass does
some really fine fretless solo work. They have six CDs available ...
Live In Europe, World Tour 90, Between the Lines, Fast Emotion, Uzeb Club,
Noisy Nights. Working as a trio now but earlier stuff had keyboard and sax
work. Currently guitar, bass and drums - heavily midi'd but mostly very musical
- they occasionally do some acoustic stuff on the live albums (60 Rue Des
Lombardes). The guitar sound gets a little grating at times but generally ok.
The technique combined with the ample musicality of their all original stuff
makes them very accessible even to "non fusion" listeners. Keep those ears open
... Steve (The Bottom Line) - Aldergrove, B.C.
From: kimple@vax.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: 4-track modification?
Date: 8 Apr 92 12:55:50 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

I would like to "upgrade/modify" my cheesy 4-track for better s/n, 
distortion, getting the dbx towork better, etc. I have woked alot
with tubes, but not much with solid state stuff except to repair.

Basically, does anyone know how/with what i can do these mods? Or is
it cost prohibitive? Would better op amps help? xformers on the 
inputs?

Thanks in advance.

jd
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From: jkrutz@lobo.rmhs.colorado.edu (Jamie Krutz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
Subject: Re: 1622 disassembly
Keywords: Alesis
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:13:03 GMT
Organization: Rocky Mountain AvailTech, Fort Collins, CO

I've had the same problem with one jack on my Alesis mixer.  Just like you,
if I "exercise" the jack by repeatedly inserting a plug, or if I leave a 
plug plugged in, it goes away.  I'd be interested in finding out if your
cranolin fix works.  I was considering spraying some tech spray in there
.
 Later,
 -Jamie
From: ada@zip.larc.nasa.gov (Anthony Arviola)
Subject: Noise in recording vocals
Followup-To: rec.music.makers
X-Md4-Signature: 620e71e23770fd33065f2027d30ce6d4
Organization: NASA Langley Research Center, Hampton, VA
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:19:15 GMT

I'm having trouble recording my vocals without a lot of noise.  The reverb
that I use is really noisy.  So is my digital delay.  My voice is kind
of dull (dogs howl) by itself and I am forced to overdub it at least once
to get it sounding all right.  Is there any good, cheap, and quiet effects
that I can use to mellow out my vocals.  I've got several songs waiting
for me to find a solution.

Thanks for your suggestions,

Tony
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: fpeabody@isis.cs.du.edu (Darren Jacobson)
Subject: Rush newsgroup
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 23:04:37 GMT


   I'm in favor of creating alt.rush, too.  I mean look at what other
bands have newsgroups!  For instance, alt.machines.of.living grace. Give m
me a break!  I think we need alt.rush much more than alt.molg.  Count my
vote in...

fp/dj
From: mbl@media.mit.edu (Marc LoCascio)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: Analog/Digital Associates Flanger
Keywords: Huh?
Date: 14 Apr 92 20:14:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

In article <1992Apr14.180155.3491@odin.corp.sgi.com>, archer@elysium.esd.sgi.com (Benny the Bump) writes:
> Its a weird stomp box, and I have no idea what vintage.  I saw one at a
> used music store the other day, and it turned an otherwise normal Les Paul
> into a prison for tortured cats.  Needless to say I have to have one.  
> 
> What is it:  Ananlog/Digital Associates Voltage Controlled Flanger.
> 	The company used to be in Berkeley California, but they are
> 	probably long gone.

"Analog/Digital Associates" is none other than ADA, makers of the MP-1 MIDI
tube preamp etc.  there are now at:

ADA Signal Processors
7303D Edgewater Dr.
Oakland, CA  94621-3095

(415) 632-1323

they made stomp box flangers in the 70's which were really incredible.  i'd
love to get one for my vintage effects rack as well!

Marc LoCascio	(mbl@media-lab.media.mit.edu)
From: guido@netlink.cts.com (Joel Cherney)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Bass music-how is it read?
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:13:14 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

I play bass in my school's jazz band.  As I read music, the notes are 
usually midway up the staff.  However, I went out yesterday and bought the 
Complete Rush Anthology, and everything in it is written one octave lower 
than in my music at school.

Does this mean: 
   I'm playing my music at school one octave high,
   The stuff in the Rush book is an octave low, or
   Rock music is written differently than jazz music?

Please mail a response, as I don't read this group very often.

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From: dcd123@pumpkin.ucsb.edu (Hanson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Advice wanted: RC or ?
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:53:49 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucsbcsl.4083
Organization: University of California, Santa Barbara

I have a problem.  Recently I moved into an apartment building, and my
monitors annoy the neighbors.  The building is such that low frequencies are
the only problem.  As an experiment, I decoupled the monitors from the floor
(by lifting them.  Ouch.) and this helped immensely.  My question: could RC
be used to make a "stand" for these 20 kg things?  Is there a weight rating
available?  My only other idea was to make a cage and suspend them with 
strips of rubber.  Ugly, bulky, and stupid.  Any suggestions welcome.
I may be wrong, but it seems foam would not help until I stacked enough of
it to create unstability problems.
Regards.
From: kevin@rainbow.west.sun.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: John Grey Custom ES335
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:51:53 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, El Segundo,  CA.
NNTP-Posting-Host: rainbow.west.sun.com


I recently purchased a John Grey custom guitar, a ES 335 copy, 
and was wondering if anybody had any info as to where he could
be located and maybe the value of this guitar.

This is apparently a handmade guitar  with very nice hardware and 
an ebony fretboard with mother-of-pearl inlays and two humbucker
pickups, pretty much a 335 copy.

Any info would be appreciated.

Kevin
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: eesjr@marlin.jcu.edu.au (Steven J Rossetti)
Subject: HELP! Gibson Les Paul
Organization: James Cook University
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 22:53:38 GMT


I'm looking for some info here on my brother's guitar....
It's a Gibson Les Paul Custom, serial number (I think) 170825,
all the fittings seem original bar the keys. The bridge is a fine tuning
type.  That's about all he could tell me over the phone.

Would anyone out there be able to give me some idea as to its year of
manufacture, and a ballpark figure as to its value, if possible.
He bought it a couple of months ago and paid just under $1,000
Australian for it.

			Thanks in advance,
			Steve Rossetti.

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From: dcm2@kepler.unh.edu (Tommy the Cat)
Subject: Re: Rush newsgroup
Organization: University of Never Went
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:15:51 GMT

Yes!!!!! I'm all for it... however, on our system here, someone complained
about alt.sex so now we don't have *any* alt newsgroups (go figure)
-chris




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From: bill@verdix.com (William Spencer)
Subject: Re: Amplifying drums
Organization: Verdix Corp.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 19:17:07 GMT

fein2@husc10.harvard.edu (Ronald Fein) writes:
>In article <GRIGSBY.92Apr1202247@occs.cs.oberlin.edu> grigsby@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Spiral Death Trap) writes:

>>pit (9:30 in DC).  Drums shouldn't need to be amplified unless you're in a
>>800+ person venue.

>Is this true?  I am in a 5-piece college rock band (2 guitars, bass, keys,
>and drums) and we are playing a dance a week from tonight and we were planning
>to mike the drums. 
[...]
>We are NOT by any means a "loud" band, but we don't want to hurt our fans'
>ears, or sound too loud.  We also figured by miking the drums we could control
>the overall mix much better.  What do people think?

It's a good idea to mike the drums -- IF you can trust your soundman not to 
overdo it! I have seen cases where it starts as "oh, it can't hurt" and next
thing you know, people are saying "it sounded good... outside."

Miking can improve tone and area coverage. Using it to increase volume is where
the real trouble starts. In my opinion, the volume should never be higher than
it would be with the band playing in a confined space without reinforcement.
Any higher is not reinforcement, it's exaggeration (like in the aforementioned
9:30 club!).

>[bass D.I]
>reasonably clean sound but running straight into the power mixer has produced
>an un-bassy sound in the past.  At a club we played the soundman had me run
>my pre-out into a direct box; he said it would give it a more bass-like
>sound.  I really haven't decided how to do it yet.  Suggestions?

The clean direct feed could be too clean and the dynamics too unrestricted
(forcing a lower volume setting to allow for peaks).
But the pre-amp alone might not fix that, and any heavy EQ you do may 
confuse the issue on the PA side, so depends. Another option is to take the
signal first thing after any compression on your part or use compression
on the PA side of the feed.

bill S.
From: jgj@ssd.csd.harris.com (Jeff Jackson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: DOD 1642 Mixer vs. Alesis 1622 vs. Mackie CR 1604
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:12:19 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: I would rather be windsurfing.


There was recently a thread comparing the Alesis 1622 and the Mackie
CR 1604.  Has any one seen/used the DOD 1642.  From the ads, it looks
comperable to them and lists for the same as the Mackie ($1099 -- I
would assume street price would be around $800).

Thanx,

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New)
Subject: Re: How to test (was Re: "Digital Is A Huge Rip-Off")
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 20:11:30 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.160151.2287@smsc.sony.com> dce@smsc.sony.com (David Elliott) writes:
>
>How about this for an experiment:  Take an analog recording and make
>two DAT recordings (32kHz and 48KHz) of it.  Play all 3 back in a
>blind test, and compare.  Note that in order to keep the electronics
>a bit more consistent, you need to play the original recording back
>through the DAT machine in source monitor mode.

I'd love to see Neil Young take the "Digi-Challenge".  I think you've got a
great idea, David.  Perhaps you could conduct this "taste-test" on a
few people and post the results.

Elliott New
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: grigsby@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Spiral Death Trap)
Subject: Re: Pro Reverb and  the Vintage SCAM
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
	<1992Apr14.152811.2738@cabezon.uucp>
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:38:08 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.152811.2738@cabezon.uucp> larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley) writes:

       The scary thing about the 'vintage' market is that there are people who
       will pay hopelessly inflated prices for what is (and always has been)
       junk.  This is done out of a sense of nostalgia.

       Here in Portland (OR), I was in a used guitar store and saw genuine
       pieces of crap, stuff that they sold in K-Mart and S&H Green Stamp
       Redemption Centers when I was a kid.  (Does the name Teisco Del Ray
       ring bells for anyone?)  This stuff was ticketed and SELLING for
       prices in the $300-400 range.  The cat that owned the shop told me
       that people who had played in garage bands in the 60's and were now
       doctors or lawyers were buying these logs faster than he could find
       them at garage sales.

       I'm not suggesting that the serious working musician was buying the
       things, but the price was artificially high because of the nostalgic
       lawyers.

Shit and onions!  $400 for a Del Rey?  I got one free from my friend, 
and while it looks neat and sounds nice and mellow, it plays like absolute
crap, even considering the fret wear.  Where is this store?  I should cash
in on these clueless types.  (Can you say "wide clunky fretboard and no
sustain on the 6th string?")  // g
From: keitha@spider.co.uk (Keith Aitken)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: TR505 problems..... can anyone help?
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:39:43 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.


Hi,
   I have a problem with my Roland TR505 drum-machine which is as
follows:

The bass drum does not sound when you press the appropriate pad,
neither does the bass drum voice sound when playing a pattern with
bass drum in it.

I haven't tried it over MIDI yet, but does anyone have any idea as to
what the problem could be? A fault in the sample memory perhaps?

Keith A
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From: din@grad1.cis.upenn.edu (Clarence Din)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: 4-Track/8-Track Recorder recommendations???
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:03:39 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

I'm looking into purchasing either a 4- or 8-track recorder, either
cassette or reel-to-reel, preferably the latter, since I've used it
more.  The brands I see most often are the Tascam, Fostex, and
Yamaha.  I'd like Dolby B and the ability to record all tracks
simultaneously.  Also, bleeding should be minimal.

I've seen a Tascam Porta-03 for $195.  Is this a sh*tty 4-track?

Can anyone vouch for the Tascam 246 or 388 (which I've used in
the past, back in 88/89)??

Can anyone send me a good demo that they've done on a 4-track?

Any help or expertise would be appreciated.  Thanks!
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Programmer Analyst II, Language Analysis Center, University of Pennsylvania
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From: elliott@ncrcol.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM (Elliott New)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Subject: Re: "Digital Is A Huge Rip-Off" (Neil Young)
Date: 17 Apr 92 15:46:04 GMT
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC.

In article <3245@calypso.tegra.COM> msaleski@tegra.COM (Mark Saleski) writes:
>
> how many people out there have CDs marked 'DAD'...seems like whoever did the
> mastering was more comfortable with analog equipment...i've only got a few
> done like this but the one that springs to mind is 'The Very Big Carla Bley Band'
> by (of course) Carla Bley. The sound is incredible...the horns sound so big 
> and 'in yer face'...i don't think i've got any other recordings that can compare
> to it...

And you think that the ONLY reason this CD sounds SO good to you is that it
was mixed down to analog tape....   

What about the mics they used in the studio?
What about how they placed the mics?
What about the eq of the horn track?

You think it would have been a bad CD if it had been mixed down to Digital??

If digital sucked so bad, then why did the CD sound good at all???
Especially being recorded on a digital multi-track recorder!

Seems like that would have ruined it for you right there.

Maybe that means that you can take all those DDD CDs of yours and make
them sound better by recording them on your analog cassette deck!

Happy Listening,
Elliott New


PS - I once heard the owner of an independent record label say that audiophiles
are an interesting breed.... "they listen to noise... not music.  They sure
spend a lot of money to listen to that noise.  I would rather listen to MUSIC."
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: mlocey@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mark A Locey)
Subject: acoustic FOR SALE
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: cmh
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:06:03 GMT


	FOR SALE:     Aria 6-string cutaway.  NICE guitar, not like
		      the cheap Aria stuff.  Cedar top, rosewood,
		      GREAT action.  Only 8 months old! Case included.

					$250 o.b.o.

		If interested, please send e-mail to 
		mlocey@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu OR

		CALL 486-5994
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: etan@sunEc.tellabs.com (Nate Stelton)
Subject: Guild Ashbury bass
Organization: Tellabs, Inc. Lisle IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:11:49 GMT


This is a long shot, but a friend of mine is looking for a Guild Ashbury
bass.  If you have one you would like to sell, please call Dan at
(312) 735-8198 (Chicago).  Thanks.

Nate, etan@tellabs.com

From: drick@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM (David Rick)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:56:40 GMT
Subject: Re: microphones
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Loveland, CO
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers

In rec.music.makers, little@cs.ucsd.edu (Glenn Little) writes:

      ... I'm looking
      for a microphone in the sm57 price range (is that still in the a-bit-
      over-100 dollars category?), but maybe a different mic for some variety
      in sound.  Is there a good general-purpose mic out there for that 
      price?  Or is the sm57 the one?  

Give us a hint, Glenn, what do you want to use it for?  Recording acoustic
guitar, miking up an amp on stage, miking a bass drum, stage vocals,
classical concert recording, Gratefull Dead, college radio...
What do you mean by "variety of sound?"  Different mics _do_ sound
different, but the more "unique" the sound, the less general purpose
is the mic.

	Are there any acceptable condensers
      in that range?  A mic with a fairly high output level would be great,
      but that's not the overriding concern.

I keep recommending the Audio Technica ATM-33R (street price $150) for
people who can cope with phantom power.  If you can't, Bananas at Large
is selling the Shure 849 for $124, and it runs off a battery, but I
think the 33R is a far better mic.  (I sold my pair of 849s for $60 
each last year).  Looking at the latest Banana's flyer, they show the
Sony ECM-23F-II (also battery powered) for a list price of $189, so
with thier discount, it should also be in your price range.  I have
no experience with this mic, though.  

David L. Rick
(only marginally associated with:)
Hewlett-Packard Company
VXI Systems Division
Loveland, Colorado
drick@hplvdo.lvld.hp.com

Disclaimer:  You can't blame my employer if you don't know who it is!


Organization: University Libraries - E&S Library, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
Date: Mon,  6 Apr 1992 16:27:46 -0400 
From: Robert Angelo Pleshar <rp16+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Wanted: Tuba mouthpiece

Hi-

I know this is a longshot, but does anyone have an old tuba mouthpiece
they wouldn't mind selling? I recently got use of a really beat tuba and
don't want to spend $40-50 for a mouthpiece if I can avoid it.
Thanks, rob
rp16@andrew.cmu.edu
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From: dcovell@hfglobe.intel.com (David Covell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.music.synth
Subject: USENET '91 TAPE
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:11:26 GMT
Organization: Development Tools Operation, Intel Corp., Hillsboro, OR


To my great frustration I've been unable to get a copy of the tape, even
though I'm one of the contributors. It's partially my fault, since I
ordered rather late (about 1 month ago). It may be that there are no copies
left. I've made 3 attempts to contact Dog via email, which have neither
bounced nor been replied to, so I'm hoping that he or someone else who
knows what's going on will see this and respond. The prospect of losing
$8.95 is no big deal, but it's much more discouraging not to be able to
hear my and others' material on the tape.
I had considered requesting someone to dub me a copy, but since I've heard
the frequency response is somewhat low I doubt that a dub would sound very 
good. So I remain in the limbo of curiousity (sounds like a good song title)
about what's on the tape, and would welcome suggestions about how to get
one.
To those of you who have heard my song (Streamside) I should apologize for
the use of the stream/birds sound effects which should have been used only
in the intro or mixed much lower. Now that I have monitors and a DAT I
intend to either remix or completely redo the song and would welcome
a critique (I already know the cello samples are poorly played/mixed). I
intended the song as a showcase of my guitar work, and I would do well to
find a much better keyboardist than myself to do the sample playing.
Any non-flammatory criticism/suggestions for the next version are more
than welcome. Despite the over-all feel of the song, I'm really not a "new
age" type. I had hoped that Dog would have chosen one of my latin/jazz songs
for inclusion instead, but...
Now, where can I get that tape????

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