HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: canty@vlsi.polymtl.ca (Yves Canty (Hiv91))
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Hard Disk for sale - Disque dur a vendre
Date: 1 Sep 92 00:09:14 GMT
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal

Connor 100 Megs IDE hard disk for sale, 19 ms seek, about 550 K/s transfer
rate, 2 years old, very silent, no bad sectors.

Please leave me a mail at canty@info.polymtl.ca with your offer.

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Disque dur Connor 100 Megs de type IDE a vendre, temps d'acces 19 ms, taux
de transfert environs 550 K/s, 2 ans d'usure, tres silencieux, aucun secteur
defectueux.

Veuillez me laisser un courrier electronique a canty@info.polymtl.ca avec
une offre.


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|            Yves Canty             |         Internet address            |
|   Computer Engineering student    |                                     |
|  Ecole Polytechnique de Montreal  |       canty@info.polymtl.ca         |
Xref: sparky mtl.general:202 can.politics:6188
From: rayo@chromc.CHROMCRAFT.COM (Ray O'Brien)
Newsgroups: mtl.general,misc.jobs.misc
Subject: Headhunters in Montreal ???
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:03:39 GMT
Followup-To: mtl.general
Organization: Chromcraft Furniture Corporation

Hi, 

    Would somebody please email me the names and phone number of any good
computer/unix headhunters/recruiters in Montreal, Quebec.   TKS Rayo

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1 Quality Lane, Senatobia MS 38668
uucp {sco,homecare,crux,uunet}!chromc!rayo  -----  internet rayo@CHROMCRAFT.COM
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From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Bus Lanes
Date: 2 Sep 92 18:03:42 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <1992Sep2.165122.7101@cumin.telecom.uqam.ca> berstel@lacim.uqam.ca (Bruno Berstel) writes:
>Heather Johnstone <heather@cs.concordia.ca> writes:
>|> 
>|> Bravo to the MUCTC for going ahead with bus lanes on congested
>|> routes despite some controversy.
>|> 
>It worked (and works) in Paris so I can see no reason why it shouldn't
>in Montreal...
>
>Bruno Berstel                                         berstel@lacim.uqam.ca

Une amelioration qui pourrait etre interessante est au niveau des horaires.
Il y a une pointe dans l'achalandage pour les lignes express de banlieue.
Par exemple, quand je prenais l'autobus 190 (metro Lionel-Groulx), il 
arrivait qu'il y ait TROIS files d'attente.  Ceci arrive parce qu'il y a
une pointe reguliere a cette heure precise.  En envoyant 2 ou 3 autobus
a ce moment (de toutes facons, les autobus arrivent du garage), le
service serait ameliore de beaucoup, les passagers seraient plus heureux
et cela ne couterait rien.

-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Genealogiste officiel : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Un Quebec renouvele dans une Amerique renovee
\_.-===                                                  Opinions ? Et pis non !
Xref: sparky mtl.general:213 can.politics:6209
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: mtl.general,can.politics
Subject: Re: Denied access to English schools?
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:49:11 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <BtJvLD.I18@ireq.hydro.qc.ca> beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.085646.12416@spxtech.qc.ca> steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
>>
>>  "speak white" - interesting choice since Quebec's limitation on access
>>  to English schools is similar to that for access to "white" schools in
>>  South Africa.
>>

Thus, Potter brought in the comparison between Quebec and South Africa.
For me, such comparison is exactly as comparing Quebec and Nazi laws.
In other words, since some dumb or limited minded racists are doing
some nit-picking about someone who MADE THE EFFORT of using their
language, seems to be revolting that I used the word NAZI, I will explain.
QC and S.A. are very far from being comparable, just like QC and NAZI
are also far from being comparable.  But, why, if it is not by racism,
do you made such a comparison?

> 
>Dummy or illiterate you are, Steve.  "Speak White" is a frequent
>demonstration of racist of anglos against francos.
>Moreover, your comparison with South Africa is quite similar to Nazi
>comparison.  Why don't you prepare to come back to your England?

Pis, la prochaine fois, tit-cul, je t'le dirai en joual.
Comme ca, les Quebecois pure-laine et ceux qui les ont rejoint et
partage les memes expression locales, pourront comprendre, alors que
toi tu ne verras rien!

Pour tout de suite : "Speak White" est un exemple typique de
racisme anti-francais utilise jusqu'a tout recemment (et meme encore
utilise) au Quebec par des racistes anglophones qui ne se sont pas
apercu que le francais est la langue de la majorite.

Voyez par exemple le livre d'Andre Rufiange qui en parle.  Dans les annees
'60, au milieu de la nuit et avec une fatigue excessive, Rufi arrive
dans une station service, la seule ouverte.  Pas droit a du service en
francais.  "Speak White".  Comme il decide d'aller ailleurs, le pompiste
l'attaque, est lui-meme blesse et le poursuit.  Le pompiste arrive en cour
en chaise roulante, Rufi est condamne.  La semaine suivante, Rufi passe
devant la meme station service, et l'hostie de block est en train de travailler
comme si de rien n'etait.

C'est ca, le Speak White : un symbole d'une epoque heureusement revolue
ou la minorite DOMINAIT economiquement ou autrement la majorite.
Maintenant, s'il faut recommencer la demonstration parce que des bigots
racistes ont oublie, la', je debarque.

-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Genealogiste officiel : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Vient de paraitre : Andre Jarret et ses Ancetres
\_.-===  En vente par l'auteur                      Opinions ? Et pis non !
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: mtl.general
Subject: Re: Indecence
Date: 26 Aug 92 03:39:52 GMT
Distribution: mtl
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

Et encore, tu n'as pas tout lu.  Tom Hood a au moins un point positif par
rapport a Potter (et j'ai personnellement plus d'estime pour Tom que
pour Steve) : Tom a occasionnellement traduit de facon assez fidele
certains articles que j'avais ecrit en francais.

>J'en profite donc pour faire une demande a Michel Dignard et a Denis
>Beauregard en autre.  SVP ne faites plus l'erreur de vous adresser a lui en
>anglais.  Je ne doute pas un instant de votre capacite a vous exprimer de

L'habitude de soc.culture.canada et can.politics !
Le public normal de ces groupes : 2 ou 3 francophones et des dizaines
d'anglophones.  Et des anglophones souvent racistes et pointilleux
dont le principal argument est le suivant : oui, c'est vrai, on vous a
bave des annees et maintenant, les francos ont pris confiance et sont plus
forts, mais vous n'avez rien appris parce que vous utilisez votre force
pour promouvoir _vos_ interets (francais).  Maintenant que les anglos
ont ete remis a leur place, il faudrait oublier ces interets et faire
preuve de generosite a l'egard des anglos parce qu'ils nous ont laisses
vivre (le sujet a deja ete discute).

>facon satisfaisante dans sa langue et c'est pourquoi vous n'avez pas a lui
>prouver.  Il nous crache dessus et vous l'invitez a poursuivre en lui faci-
>litant la vie en communiquant avec lui en anglais.  C'est vraiment pathetique.
>
>Pour terminer je fais un voeux a l'intention de Steve.  J'aimerais ca que tu
>sois assez brave et serein pour t'avouer a toi-meme que tu ne peux pas vivre
>dans une societe francophone de la facon que tu le souhaite.  Au Quebec tu

Ce qui est cinglant de la part de Potter, c'est qu'il est parti
d'Angleterre il y a une dizaine d'annees afin que ses enfants puissent
etre bilingues!
Il a choisi le Quebec tel qu'il etait _apres_ la loi 101!

>vis avec des francophones et tu t'adapter au mode de vie que les gens qui
>t'entourent veulent adopter.  T'as le droit de voter pour le parti de ton
>choix aux elections, t'as le droit de voter pour ou contre l'independance et
>t'as le droit de rester ou de partir...  Mais une fois que ton choix est fait
>tu vis comme un homme en acceptant les consequences de ton geste.
>
>Le Quebec c'est deja un pays francophone dans nos coeurs et ca sera bientot
>un pays reconnu a la grandeur de la planete.  Habitues-toi tout de suite a
>vivre en francais mon vieux sinon tu vas etre malheureux...
>
>Cela etant dit, ais-je le droit de te dire que tu nous fait chier avec ton
>attitude hautaine !?
>-- 
>Daniel Cote              /\
>Universite de Montreal  |--|  coted@jsp.umontreal.ca
>Montreal, Quebec         \/   coted@ere.umontreal.ca

Bravo, Daniel!

-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Genealogiste officiel : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Vient de paraitre : Andre Jarret et ses Ancetres
\_.-===  En vente par l'auteur                      Opinions ? Et pis non !
Xref: sparky mtl.general:215 can.politics:6211
From: beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca (Denis Beauregard)
Newsgroups: mtl.general,can.politics
Subject: Re: Indecence [F>E]
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:46:21 GMT
Organization: Institut de recherche d'Hydro-Quebec, Varennes, Canada

In article <1992Aug26.172423.27687@pandora.matrox.com> thood@corvus.matrox.com (Thomas Hood) forgets to translate one half paragraph :
>
>coted@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Cote Daniel) writes:
>
>>Je ne me perdrai pas en argumentations futiles, puisque de toute facon la
>>mauvaise volonte dont il fait preuve m'empecherait de faire valoir quelques
>>idees que ce soit.  Il nous accuse d'etre intolerants et paranoiaques, alors
>>qu'il n'a eu cesse de detruire rageusement toute les tentatives de discution
>>de la part des usagers du groupe.
>=
>= I will not get tangled up in futile arguments, since in any case the
>= bad faith he shows prevents me from giving any credence to the ideas
>= there are.
>
He made us guilty of being intolerant and pananoid, while he never stopped
rageously detroying any attempt of discussion from this group users.

Et ceci est un autre point interessant : non seulement les anglos 
passant de la minorite dominante a la minorite dominee changent les
regles du jeu en demandant la pitie que nous n'avons jamais recue, mais
encore ils poussent la derision en voulant nous culpabiliser de leurs erreurs.


-- 
  \_\    Denis Beauregard  *  internet:beaurega@ireq.hydro.qc.ca
 /   \   Genealogiste officiel : Beauregard/Jarret/Jarest/Vincent
J   __>  Vient de paraitre : Andre Jarret et ses Ancetres
\_.-===  En vente par l'auteur                      Opinions ? Et pis non !
From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Newsgroups: mtl.test
Subject: Re: Ceci n'est pas un test.
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:56:14 GMT
Distribution: mtl
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
X-Bytes: 457

From article <Btutw3.1Eu@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG>, by steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Steve M. Robbins):
> Are you receiving me?  Are you receiving me right now?

  yes.
-- 
  ///==================================================================\\\
  ||| Steve Potter:         steven%spxtech@CAM.ORG                     |||
  ||| Expertise/Experience: Computer Systems Engineering / Real Ale /  |||
  |||                       Politics in Education in Quebec            |||
From: root@CAM.ORG (root Altitude)
Newsgroups: mtl.test
Subject: none
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:56:57 GMT
X-Original-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 07:56:55 -0400

encore
From: steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Steve M. Robbins)
Newsgroups: mtl.test
Subject: Ceci n'est pas un test.
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:33:38 GMT
Distribution: mtl
Organization: Chiral Symmetry Breaking, Inc.

Are you receiving me?  Are you receiving me right now?
-- 
Steve Robbins  --  steve@nyongwa.cam.org
Pretend to spank me -- I'm a pseudo-masochist.
From: root@CAM.ORG (root Altitude)
Newsgroups: mtl.test
Subject: none
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:57:07 GMT
X-Original-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 07:57:03 -0400

dernier
From: root@CAM.ORG (root Altitude)
Newsgroups: mtl.test
Subject: none
Date: 27 Aug 92 11:56:51 GMT
X-Original-Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 07:56:50 -0400

test
From: dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu (dann cutter)
Subject: Water and Waste
Organization: Stellar Enterprises
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 92 22:52:34 GMT

It amazes me that the state which is reknown for its RAIN, has a bloody
water shortage, in the fucking portland area... gads how does places like
detroit and others do it??? What about New York?? Portlands get off your
stupid high horse and realize that you don't have some stupendous water
problem. Go down into southern cali, and you'll see what I mean. Water
police??? ooh, I'm scared now. I lived there for 18 years - and belive
me... the one thing I ould have done without for a while, was water. You
bloody live on a river... try investing a little science... and no more
water problem. Portland would definately die in a desert within a week.

_______________________________________________________________
Dann Cutter  Stellar Enterprises / dcutter@oregon.uoregon.edu
From: snelson@ptdca0.intel.com (Shannon Nelson)
Subject: Re: Imbrie Farmhouse (CPR) in danger again
Organization: Portland Technology Development, Intel Corp., Aloha, OR
Distribution: pdx
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:35:45 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.064611.20371@klic.rain.com> keithl@klic.rain.com (Keith Lofstrom) writes:
>When I was a child, growing up in Beaverton, there were a lot of vacant fields,
> [...]
>I miss the empty fields, and the dirt roads, and the airstrip, [...]
>                                            Life is change.  [...]

Yes, life is change, but change can be controlled and directed.

>      [...].  Unfortunately, modern politics is making it increasingly easy
>for the "sayers" to dominate the "doers".

As I understand it, this is what our democracy is based upon.  This could
be why our "modern politics" seems to be dominated by "sayers".  When the
sayers voice themselves at the ballot box, the few "doers" usually get the
message and act accordingly (well, usually :-( ).

As such, is there not some legal means of protecting the Roadhouse?  Is
there a referendum process or some other means to make it a recognized and
untouchable landmark?
-- 
==============================================================================
Shannon Nelson              Portland Technology Development, Intel Corp.
snelson@ptd.intel.com       (503) 642-8149	I don't speak for Intel
                  Parents can't afford to be squeemish.
From: al@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Alan Peterman)
Newsgroups: pdx.general,tek.general
Subject: Re: Subaru mechanics
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:14:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Aug28.141403.9458
Distribution: pdx
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

In article <1992Aug27.154201.15616@tvnews.tv.tek.com> michaelg@samsara.tv.tek.com (Michael Gies) writes:
>Howdy,
>	My sister needs to find a Subaru mechanic.  She lives close-in NE and
>works in the Washington Square area, so a fairly close-in location would be
>best.

Bob & Dick at Import Auto Clinic in Tigard do LOTS of Subaru work.  Honest,
good work.  684-2886.

For a Subaru specialist, Richard at Precision Autotune is perhaps even
better.


-- 
Alan L. Peterman                                 (503)-684-1984 hm & work
                       al@qiclab.scn.rain.com
It's odd how as I get older, the days are longer, but the years are shorter!
Newsgroups: pdx.general
From: markl@bucket.rain.com (Mark Lilly)
Subject: Subaru for sale
Summary: 1980 Sub wagon for sale
Keywords: Subaru
Organization: Rick's Home-Grown Un*x
Distribution: pnw
Date: 27 Aug 92 20:45:16 GMT

Greetings:
I am selling my 1980 Subaru wagon.
Generally runs well, but occasionally
needs tampering.  Great body, everything
else fine.  Asking $585, and am anxious
to sell.  Has AM/FM/Cassette.  Respond here
or call 227-7952 here in Portland.
Thanks,
m

Newsgroups: pdx.general
From: batie@agora.rain.com (Alan Batie)
Subject: Re: Imbrie Farmhouse (CPR) in danger again
Organization: Open Communications Forum
Distribution: pdx
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 14:01:50 GMT

keithl@klic.rain.com (Keith Lofstrom) writes:
>If you our some organization wants to get together enough money to BUY that
>property, at a fair market price (where fair is equivalent to the acre cost
>of the land under that new mall on 185th, near a roughly equivalent freeway
>interchange),  I would be willing to kick in $20.

I would kick in $20/month for a year or so, as I like the place, and agree
that this is the proper approach.

I would note that I'd be *very* surprised if there were imminent danger,
as right next door, some developer, several years ago, built a new office
building and had no sooner finished it than started on a second building.
They then appear to have noticed "gee, we haven't rented out the first one
yet!" and stopped with a concrete pad.

I do think it's worth eliminating the risk, however.
-- 
Alan Batie                               \
batie@agora.rain.com                      \       Vote NO on Discrimination
+1 503 452-0960                          / \      Vote NO on 9!
45 28 59 N / 122 43 20 W / 440' MSL     /   \
From: jmess@pdx.csd.mot.com (John Messman)
Newsgroups: pdx.general
Subject: Re: race car rides
Date: 3 Sep 92 00:25:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: pdxvme.1305
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Motorola CSD, Beaverton, OR
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Sorry about the dates, the correct dates are 9/19-9/20. The rides will
be on 11:25-12:25 9/19.
-- 
John Messman                          Motorola Inc., Commercial Systems Division
jmess@pdx.csd.mot.com                 . . . . tektronix!nosun!cvedc!mcspdx!jmess
Voice: (503) 643 6247                 . . . . uunet!apple!motcsd!mcspdx!jmess
From: erikt@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Erik Teose)
Newsgroups: pdx.consumer,tek.wanted,pdx.general
Subject: Electric shaver repair (parts).
Keywords: shaver repair
Date: 26 Aug 92 18:35:56 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekig7.6741
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: pdx

I am in need of some parts for a Braun/Eltron electric shaver. Does anyone
know of a place in the Beaverton/West Portland area that would have parts
(I'd like to avoid having to go to downtown Portland)? I need more than
just the foil & blade. Thanks for any info you can provide.

Erik Teose
erikt@tekig1.pen.tek.com
From: marki@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Mark W Ireton)
Newsgroups: tek.general,pdx.general
Subject: Daytime Nanny Needed
Date: 4 Sep 92 20:01:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekig7.6859
Reply-To: marki@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM
Followup-To: tek.general
Distribution: or
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

Daytime Nanny Needed

My wife and I are looking for a nanny to care for our three children
in our home during the day.  The details are listed below.
	Children: Ages 4, 2, and 6 mo.  (1 girl, 2 boys)
	Hours: 7:45AM to 4:30PM M-F
	Vacation: 2 weeks paid vacation
	Salary: Negotiable
	Location: Hillsboro

	Please call (503) 693-1201 (evenings) if you know someone who
	is interested.

--
Mark Ireton          marki@tekig5.PEN.TEK.COM          (503)627-4173
____________________________________________________________________
Test and Measurement Manufacturing Engineering
Tektronix, Inc.
Newsgroups: sqnt-public.msgs,pdx.general
From: jjb@sequent.com (Jeff Berkowitz)
Subject: More on Imbrie Farmhouse (CPR)
Keywords: Hillsboro CC meeting TUESDAY NIGHT
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 20:29:23 GMT

Review: the developer who owns the property which currently holds
the Imbrie Farmhouse, a.k.a. Cornelius Pass Roadhouse, has renewed
his application to tear down this historic building and "develop"
the property.

I called the city of Hillsboro (side note: everybody there was
EXTREMELY helpful and knowledgable).  The Tuesday daytime planning
hearing about this has been cancelled...

INSTEAD, the issue will be on the agenda at the Hillsboro City
Council meeting, Tuesday night September 1st.  The meeting begins
at 7PM and this issue is "almost first" on the agenda.

The Hillsboro City Council meets in the Public Service Building
at 1st and Main.  There is parking behind the building.

Be there.  Don't forget, the area from San Jose to San Francisco
used to be a nice place to live too.  Get involved and keep it
from happening here.
-- 
Jeff Berkowitz, Sequent Computer Systems   jjb@sequent.com  uunet!sequent!jjb
Newsgroups: pdx.general
From: peterh@netcom.com (Peter John Harrison)
Subject: Re: Imbrie Farmhouse (CPR) in danger again
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 18:04:52 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: pdx

There have been two recent decisions affecting what the government (i.e. 
local up to federal) can and can not do when setting land use policies and 
restrictions.  They can not restrict land use in such a way that the current
owner can not get a return on his investment in the land (the case where this
precident was set, last month, involved a property, set between two other
residences, that the local gov't had decided could not be developed for 
environmental & asthetic reasons.  Since there was no other use for the 
property (too small for a campsight, etc., etc.) and the local gov't wasn't
willing to pay for the package, the court ruled the restrictions constituted
an "unfair taking" of the owner's property.)  The same decision, however
seems to allow restrictions that permit, say, agriculture over the higher
margin development uses.

The Imbrie Farmhouse might make a good museum, or a quaint Bed and Breakfast
place, or a unique store front.  While any of these proposals would change
the character of the current site ("renovation" is rarely the same as 
"restoration"), any of these uses could be made up to preserve much of the
old charm of the place while still offering the property owner some way to
realize some value from the property.

Newsgroups: pdx.general
From: michaelh@endeavor18.tek.com (Michael Herbert)
Newsgroups: pdx.general
Subject: Room For Rent: Close-in SE PDX
Date: 26 Aug 92 05:08:04 GMT
Article-I.D.: shaman.1647
Reply-To: michaelh@orca.wv.tek.com
Distribution: pnw
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

*****  Please note:  Do not respond to me -- I'm posting for a friend *****

---------------------------------------------------------------------------

I live in an old home with a small but enjoyable yard, a friendly porch,
and a big bedroom I want to rent.  It is a two bedroom duplex; living room,
formal dining room, large kitchen, ok bathroom.

Very close to grocery store and #15 bus line.

I want $250 rent plus half of the utilities.  There is an opportunity to
do some chores in exchange for a bit of the rent.

Would prefer a woman, non-smoker, and must be bird positive.

Available Immediately.  

If interested, do call Carisa 239-5274.
From: neil@cadreor.cadre.com (Neil W. Van Dyke)
Newsgroups: pdx.general
Subject: Re: Saving the Imbrie Farmhouse AKA Cornelius Pass Roadhouse
Date: 31 Aug 92 04:06:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: cadreor.1992Aug31.040653.7837
Distribution: pdx
Organization: Cadre Technologies, Inc., Portland Operation

randy@psg.com (Randy Bush) writes:
>But can the land/building be saved without saving the grease and french fries?

But the fries (composition: potato/grease = 50/50) are part of its charm!

-- 
Neil W. Van Dyke <> neil@cadre.com <> +1 503 690 1586 <> Fax: +1 503 690 1320
"My employer disclaims that I even work for them, much less speak for them."
Newsgroups: pdx.general,sqnt-public.msgs