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From: mccune@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Jesse Brook McCune)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: opinions wanted
Date: 15 Dec 1992 04:19:35 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigwpi.wpi.edu

Ok...first of all, I know that some of these groups don't fit it to this 
newsgroup, but I'm posting this to several newsgroups, and I don't want
to have to pick and choose which groups should go to which newsgroup...
if you just don't like a band, don't bother telling me about it...thanks

Now then...I am looking for opinions on the following albums...I am trying
to decide which ones I should buy from each group...which ones are the best?
are the prices worth it(for CD)?...thanks...please email all responses

Aztec Camera - Knife					import		$16.99
Aztec Camera - Love					import		$22.49
Bauhaus - Mask						Beggars Banquet $14.99
Bauhaus - Burning from the Inside			Beggars	Banquet	$14.99
Bauhaus - Press the Eject and Give Me the Tape		Beggars	Banquet	$14.99
Jesus & Mary Chain - Almost Gold			WEA UK		 $8.99
Jesus & Mary Chain - Far Gone and Out			WEA UK		 $8.99
Jesus & Mary Chain - Peel Sessions			WEA UK		$12.49
Jesus & Mary Chain - Reverence				WEA UK		 $8.99
Jesus & Mary Chain - Sound of Speed (B sides Pt. 2)	Japanese	$25.99#
KMFDM - Don't Blow Your Top				Wax Trax	$11.99
KMFDM - Money						Wax Trax	$11.99
KMFDM - Naive						Wax Trax	$11.99
KMFDM - UAIOE						Wax Trax	$11.99
KMFDM - Vogue/Sex on the Flag				Wax Trax	$11.99
KMFDM - What Do You Know Deutschland?			Wax Trax	$11.99
Rollins Band - Do It					Texas Hotel	$10.29
Rollins Band - Hard Volume				Texas Hotel	$10.29
Rollins Band - Turned On				1/4 Stick	 $9.99
Rollins, Henry - Big Ugly Mouth				1/4 Stick	 $9.99
Swans - Body to Body Job to Job				Young God	$11.99
Swans - Filth						Young God	$11.99
Swans - Love of Life					Young God	$11.99
Swans - White Light from the Mouth of Infinity		Young God	$11.99
T99 - Maximizor						import		 $8.99
T99 - Nocturne						import		 $8.99

thanks again...

-jesse mccune
mccune@wpi.wpi.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: mortal@netcom.com (Sam Lowry)
Subject: Re: Negativland (CD re-release)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:41:21 GMT

In article <1992Dec11.012641.63050@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis) writes:
>Did one of the guys hand number the CD re-releases?  Or was it just some
>office worker?
>
>
>BTW:  I'm surprised that no one pressed a bootleg CD of U2 Negativland.
>      Did this ever occur?  If not, it would be a really good idea...
>
>
	And sell them outside U2 concerts?

	mortal@netcom.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: novick@spot.Colorado.EDU (Andrew Novick)
Subject: Re: Cabaret Voltaire - 70 billion
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 00:28:39 GMT

st1qb@Elroy.UH.EDU writes:
>     
>I really became more interested in this from CV's new album
>_Plasticity_  the last track tells you were the 70 billion people
>are hiding.  It just caught my interest.

Well, where ARE they hiding????
> 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: constant@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Tino)
Subject: Re: s.p.:it ain't dead yet!
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 20:24:49 GMT

In article <17508@umd5.umd.edu> jmoore@lab9.smcm.edu (Joshua D. Moore) writes:
>> Hmmmm...Does this mean that SP are going to stay on Nettwerk?
>
>i doubt it, i hear somewhere that they are/were negotiating a contract  
>with a bigger label and that they were unsatisfied with nettwerk....maybe  
>they will get a bigger budget and play wierder and niftier stuff....who  
>knows we can but hope....

Maybe they'll get a REALLY big budget and have to put out a Christmas
album, an album about Mother Earth, and force Ogre to sing on a "Lets
Save Somalia" sing-a-long with Tiffany and Michael Jackson. 

Ugh.

Tino
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: thf@sizone.uucp (Jason Kalra)
Subject: Re: Best song to dance to?
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552
Date: 18 Dec 92 17:06:23 GMT

To: thf
Subject: Re: Best song to dance to?
From: thf@sizone.UUCP (Jason Kalra)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 23:24:41 EST
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552
From: sizone!thf@ee.ryerson.ca (Jason Kalra)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Best song to dance to?
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 23:14:16 EST
Organization: Sonic Interzone, Atonal Hoodlum Subversion, TO Ont. 416-276-0552

> "Stigmata" and "Supernaut" are my personal faves. "JBMH" is too fast, and mos
> clubs get annoyed when you go all out. 
Hmmm... I'd be inclined to favour So What? [live version].. and maybe 
Theives [studio verion] ('Don't mean to sound terribly annoying, but 
there's a huge difference in the live/studio versions of their songs..).  
JBMH is a fun song for a while.  It's not as bad as TV Song, but then, 
I'm still looking for a song that's worse.. (maybe H&S off of Broken)...


Jason Kalra - Sonic Interzone BBS, Toronto
Inet: thf%sizone@ee.ryerson.ca

"Computer - Earl Grey Tea. Hot.  No - I said Hot. HOT! HOT HOT 
HOTHOTHOTHOTHOT!  OoOoOo LOVELY! ALL OVER ME!  Wheeeee.  

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: What a joke
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:03:34 GMT

 another great voice is the beautiful Hope Nicholls of 
Sugarsmack, and currently of PigfacE....
coprophiliac
scupin@rintintin.colorado.edu
 
From: Bill.Carney@altern8.mi.org (Bill Carney)
Sender: FredMail@altern8.mi.org
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: **QUICK SINEAD SURVEY PLEASE ANSWER**
Date: 12 Dec 92  21:53:54 EST

 JB> Question:
 JB> Do you still support (or have a general good opinon of)
 JB> Sinead O'Connor?

You ASSUME we had a good opinion of her to start out with.
From: dkletter@adobe.com (SUGAR in their vitamins?)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: opinions wanted
Date: 16 Dec 92 20:18:29 GMT
Organization: Flying Esophagus Productions

pmiller1@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul S Miller) writes about the new Rollins
spoken word boxed set:
>The only hangup is the cost. 40.99.

yeah, but it's got six (6) CDs in that package, so for $40.99, you're
getting it at less than $10/CD vs. the individual $12.99 price tag
for all of those CDs separately. in that respect, it's a bargain.

however, none of it seems to be a re-release of any of his studio spoken
word items. it is all live material that has been taped from his engagements
at colleges and clubs over the years.

hasta.

-- 
Yes.  Beautiful, wonderful nature.  Hear it sing to us: *snap*  Yes.  natURE.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: emp1@crux2.cit.cornell.edu (Ernest M. Paik)
Subject: Re: Record Speeds (was Re: What a joke)
Organization: Cornell Information Technologies
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:51:30 GMT

>>well, maybe on 33 rpm instead of 45....

>The first time I hear the Severed Heads "All Saints Day" it was the
>12" single on 33rpm.  Yow!  I wish my CD player could do that.  Or the
>CD version should contain both normal and slowed-down mixes of the
>song...

Going the other way, try John Zorn's "Spy Vs. Spy" at 45 rpm, instead of
33 1/3...

If only I had some Napalm Death on vinyl...that could be interesting at 45.
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Friday, 18 Dec 1992 13:39:58 CST
From: Angus MacGyver <U20190@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Song title info?

     There was this one song I heard recently that sounded really great
but I didn't catch the title or the name of the band. The only lyrics I
can recall went like:

"Senses overloading/Drowning in a pool of love
 Sweet temptation/Never gonna get enough"

 and the refrain went

"Oh the sky is blue/When I think of you
And I couldn't get much higher
And you make my day/When you turn and say
Gonna set your heart on fire."

    If anyone can tell me the title and artist I'd be most grateful.


-=> AM
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: jondr@sco.COM (Karen Silkwood's car)
Subject: Re: EBN: Any comments on their video?
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:06:40 GMT


i sent $20 to the EBN address given on the net many many months ago.  the
tape finally showed up last friday.  was it worth the wait?  probably.

it starts out with a collage of copyright warnings (all taken from various
videocassettes, one assumes) and then it drops into a pounding Greater Than
One-ish industrial disco track with some truly cool audio & video sampling.
My favorite bit is where they take Mister Rogers singing "why why why" and
loop it, adding George Bush echoing "why?" and Bill Clinton saying "i know
why" underneath.

The first 30 mins or so of the tape are all similar - >1ish instrumental
tracks with gobs of sampling.  It's quite the brain overload.

after the songs comes a short report on the EBN mobile featuring clips of it
at lollapalooza and other appearances.

next a text frame says that the following material was made in early 91 and
EBN takes no responsibility for it.

what follows is approx ~30 mins of video mangling, mostly taken from Gulf
War news footage.  the music is a lot more hip hop influenced in this
section - not as frantic as the first part of the tape - almost calm in
places, in fact.  the best section of this has to be the bit where they edit
George Bush saying "we will we will rock you" over the familiar beat.

i took a look at the EBN tape as available at tower records and it says the
running time is only 30-something minutes.  my tape is slightly over an
hour.  i wonder if the gulf war bit is only supplied to people who ordered
the tape by mail?

there is also a CD single out which has some of the >1-esque tracks in
various mixes.  i can't imagine it being any good because so much of the
impact is due to the incredible video cut up technique.  maybe someone else
can comment on it, cos i don't have it.

anyway, this tape gets an official Drukman Rating of "pretty fucking cool"
and it would probably make an excellent xmas gift for your favorite
industrial pal...

-- 
Jon Drukman (God's personal DJ)                 uunet!sco!jondr   jondr@sco.com
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From: jmoore@lab9.smcm.edu (Joshua D. Moore)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Virus 100[for Ramona only.....]
Date: 12 Dec 92 19:34:25 GMT

In article <Bz27nC.7w4@news.cso.uiuc.edu> lmn52210@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  
(Ramona) writes:
> I always thought it was just a joke.  Good CD, though.
> 
> 
> 						 Ramona

hi ramona, how come you never talk to me any more?

but seriously, how could you think it was a joke......and i agree it is a  
good disc.

-dyl.
submit to my fantasies.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: b92fdu@tdb.uu.se (Fredrik Duprez)
Subject: Re: What a joke
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 12:30:15 GMT

Joseph Velardi (jv14+@andrew.cmu.edu) babbles:

> Are you an idiot?

I think this sentence states your current level of brainwave-activity.

> Oh, I'm maligned!  It seems fredriK dupreZ needs some creativity
> lessons. 

No.

 Why don't you buy some effects pedals and a microphone, rivet
> an amp to your chest, and walk around sounding like Bill Leeb (or
> Ogre...same thing).  

I'm not into music-making.

> It is my opinion that the opinions of morons like Fred Duprez should be
> denied public exposure.  

Well, THAT'S a true mature opinion! (Have you heard about Germany in the
30's?)

If we just cut the flame debate and get down to the real problem - 
it's very easy to hear the difference between singers like Ogre and others,
if you can't - then don't bother. Your brain size seems to be very limited
anyway acoording to your mature opinions in this letter!

Start reading the other articles here about you, and try to feel the general
RAGE against people like you who doesn't seem to know when to give up.

> (Fascist) Joe
> 

It is my opinion that anyone has the right to state his/her piont of view,
even persons(?) like joeY.

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From: front242@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Cerebus the Aardvark)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN's Fixed- where is it?
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:42:45 GMT
Organization: Malice=

Actually, I was in both One Music (a cool indie store here in Muncie) AND 
Musicland, and they both had "Fixed."  It's a Digipak single, and the cover is
similar to "Broken," except it's a blue color instead of orange (I guess a 
fire-and-water motiff.  God, that Trent's such a philosopher! :)   I still like
them/him tho....I just don't worship them....)

SO THERE!

--- WE@SEL

front242@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
00GDWESSEL@LEO.BSUVC.BSU.EDU


"Just a bad penny, I always come back to you..."
				-- BIG BLACK
From: fiddick@condor.ucsb.edu (Laurence Fiddick;)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Current .93. and similar stuff...
Date: 18 Dec 92 08:47:15 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.industrial

i believe the vinyl experience carries current 93 releases, but they're a
uk company so they'd probably charge a bit more. besides which i don't know
their address anyways. someone else might. someone else might also know a
north american mail order company that carries c93.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: rons@quads.uchicago.edu (Josh Ronsen)
Subject: Hafler Trio's A.R.P.
Reply-To: rons@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 04:12:04 GMT

	Does anybody know the history behind the Hafler Trio's album
"Alternation, Perception and Resistance"? The liner notes claim that it is
their "most controversial" record and goes on to state that the
instruments that the record was made on were destroyed in a riot caused
by (I guess) the performance. The record seems pretty ambient to me.

	-Josh Ronsen
	rons@midway.uchicago.edu


Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: lawson@gibbs.oit.unc.edu (Alan Jackson)
Subject: request
Originator: lawson@gibbs.oit.unc.edu
Organization: University of North Carolina
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 03:23:23 GMT


Hey, could somebody send me that Japanese trade thesis that was posted
earlier (strange place to put it)??

I would greatly appreciate it...

Thanks in advance.


Huh? ------>AJ
From: md@theory.esm.rochester.edu (Mike DeMurga)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN "Fixed"
Date: 17 Dec 92 22:31:31 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY

>>Also, the sample of the guy yelling to let him out, on track 3. Anyone recognize
>>that one?
>

It sounds like an excerpt from the larger sample in track six with the guy
screaming (soft buzzing...girl whispers "he's dead").  Where is that one from?
Gives me the creeps....

Also, why the parental advisor label?  Did "broken" have one?  (Since these are 're-mixes')It looks really
stupid on the cd cover...can't take it off.  This record hardly has any
intelligible vocals, much less stuff that would warrant a label.  Probably
goes to show how arbitrary the process is ("Gee, look at that song title...slap
a sticker on it!"), while stuff like, the new Mingus tribute album is
just ignored (not that I would give that one either, just the spoken parts
off that disc are more likely to offend that the "Fixed" stuff.)

--md
Organization: University of Maryland at Baltimore
Date: Thursday, 17 Dec 1992 12:43:13 EST
From: Robert Haskins <RHASKINS@UMAB.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Record Speeds (was Re: What a joke)
 <2B2E8F9A.9798@news.service.uci.edu> <BzDFoM.Dz1@nic.umass.edu>

(Random Tox) writes:
>
>         This question goes out to everyone... Under what musical heading
> would Yello be classified? I can see it being discussed here, in r.m.i,
> but it isn't really industrial...

I think of it as one or two shades less industrial than Front242 recent
works (for instance, Work242, "Rhythm of Time," etc.)  But that's just
me...

Bob
From: ohm@Lise.Unit.NO (Ole Hermann Melby)
Subject: Re: Beatnigs question
Organization: Norwegian Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 15:37:13 GMT

In article <00965086.310D66C0@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 2767hoffmanj@vms.csd.mu.edu (NAME) writes:
 > 
 > I'm looking for a more or less complete discography for the Beatnigs...
 > They were Michael Franti's (now of The Disposable Heros of Hiphoprisy) last
 > group, I believe...Franti, as the Disposable Heros, did a great version of
 > Television: Drug of a Nation on the first Heros album...and I have the 
 > Beatnigs version on some Alternative Tentacles cd...but I would
 > like to know what else the Beatnigs did...
 > 
 > Also if any of their stuff is on cd, please note cuz I can't seem to find
 > their stuff anywhere...*sigh*
 > 
 > 
 > Thanx.
 > 
 > Later
 > -justin

I would like this information too...

And when we're talking about Hiphoprisy, I found this early CD by them the 
other day. It was recorded in 90 and includes early versions of Amos & Andy 
( 3 mixes), Satanic Reverses ( 2 mixes), and Financal Leprosy ( 2 mixes).
The CD is about 40 min. long, and released on Workers Playtime (in England).
It's a must have for Hiphoprisy fans.
Satanic Reverses & Financal Leprosy is a bit different from the "Hipocrasy.."
album versions.

-OHM
From: fiddick@condor.ucsb.edu (Laurence Fiddick;)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: SPK recommendations needed
Date: 13 Dec 92 05:33:17 GMT
Distribution: rec.music.industrial

so far as bug music goes, my fave has got to be hildegard westerkamp's
cricket voice which can be found on both the aerial #2 and the first free
absolute cd that ear magazine was giving out. westerkamp's piece is far
more interesting than anything to be found on the insect musicians, but
then it's been a while since i've listened to the record.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: b92fdu@tdb.uu.se (Fredrik Duprez)
Subject: Re: Who wants to help me?
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 08:37:10 GMT

You can't be without a Skinny Puppy album!

If you like ministry, check out Rabies (AL has produced it)
If you're curious to hear the best of SP - get all of their records!

/Fredrik

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"It is my opinion, that the man on the shroud is Jesus Christ"
From: menchett@pyramid.unr.edu (Peter J Menchetti)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Hardcore/punk: This newsgroup?
Date: 13 Dec 92 19:39:59 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno  Department of Computer Science


Hey-
Would this be the right newsgroup to reach hardcore fans? If it is, I was wondering if anyone knows anything about the Circle Jerks...  I've heard rumors of a tour with stops in San Francisco and Sacromento. Also, bad brains!! What happenend to them??
Reply to Peter Menchetti
<menchett@cs.unr.edu>
From: angst@orion.ucsb.edu (Hopelessly love,,7544 San Como Way,COMS,Temp-Faculty)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Burroughs Discography
Date: 15 Dec 92 21:39:22 GMT
Organization: Finnigan's Cheezy Combustibles and Lawnmower Emporium

In article <1992Dec10.185006.19368@adobe.com> dkletter@adobe.com (SUGAR in their vitamins?) writes:
>In article <1992Dec9.044410.29660@news.vanderbilt.edu> MYERSWD@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu (jonny anonymous) writes:
>> "The Elvis of Letters" cd, WSB and Gus van Sant
>
>warning... this is the most insipid recording i've ever heard. the
>music is annoying and the lyrics consist of perhaps three or four
>short sentences just repeated over and over and over and...

As another data point, I'd say that I really like The Elvis of Letters.
I think the music is pretty cool, and so is the Burroughs-speak.

It's funny to hear a complaint about repetition from Dan; I know of lots
of stuff he likes that I consider to be repetitive and boring. (-;

Just my two bits (adjusted for inflation) and a chance to rib Dan...

"You're breathing this fear maybe once a year.	|          Dave Stein
 We suffocate every day."			|       angst@cs.ucsb.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: pmiller1@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Paul S Miller)
Subject: Re: NOISE ON THIS NEWSGROUP
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 02:59:28 GMT

I am from a suburb of Chicago and am heavily into industrial music.  The term "house" is frequently used there.  This type of music disgusts me.  It is the favored type of music enjoyed by media influenc mnon-thinking fad-junkies.  These are the same people who love to have neon on the underside of their cars becuase others do it.  Calling 'industrial' 'house' music would be horrendous mistake.
From: mattb@sdd.hp.com (Matt Bonner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Films with Insanity
Date: 16 Dec 1992 01:27:20 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdlg16.sdd.hp.com

In article <9212071830@ltrnativ.UUCP>, adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead) writes:
|> My younger brother (who is in Grade 11) has to do a twenty-minute seminar/
|> presentation on Insanity.
|> 
|> Anybody have any other ideas.  I am looking for films which really exhibit
|> insanity in violent or very visual means.  But, they do have to be generally
|> available, since most video stores in my area, don't carry obscure films.
|> 

Well, the mail bounced, so to the net it goes.  How 'bout The Shining?
Or actually almost any Jack Nicholson film.  The man drifts toward
characters on the brink, it would seem...

cheers
matt
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From: ogre@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lestat)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: NIN "Wish" Video
Date: 18 Dec 92 19:12:37 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

johnsh@rpi.edu (Hugh Johnson) writes:

>I just thought I'd flame MTV for:

>* Being so wimpy that they even have to censor videos late at night, where
>I doubt many Tipper-Gore-types would complain too loudly about a few
>f-words here and there.  I understand little kids watch MTV, but not at
>three in the morning.  Let us night owls see the uncensored versions.

>* The horrible way they handled the three instances of the f-word in NIN's
>"Wish" video.  They could have pasted a riff from somewhere else in the
>song in over the word, or even just paste some static over them (not like
>it would've detracted from the song).  But to simply just mute the sound
>for the duration of the word not only sounds awful, the silence merely
>amplifies the fact that the word is being spoken.  I'm sure 95% of the
>kiddies who see this video can figure out what the censored word is. 
>Muting it out so obviously only makes the word clearer.  MTV screws up, yet
>again.  Surprise, surprise.

Did anyone notice that the director of the video was Peter Christopherson?
Coincidence? Or is this the same genius behind Coil...?
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