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From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Nutrition (Was FDA still at large)
Date: 22 Aug 92 13:03:37 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Aug20.172406.6869@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin) writes:

>most hospital meals now privatized, they have no input into food purchase
>decisions.  It must be a bloody depressing job.
>
You mean they got worse when they were privatized?  When I was in
Britain, hospital food was even worse there than here, and it is
hard to see how it could be any worse that i was then.  About all I could 
tolerate ere the custard desserts (the British do know how to make sweets).
In the States, the pits of hospital food are the VA (government run)
hospitals.  The food is almost inedible.
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From: mdkline@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Mark D. Kline)
Subject: Re: Prozac/sleeping/alternatives
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 11:21:49 EDT

In article <Bstr9K.Jsu@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> mcoulter@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Summer Vacancy) writes:
>Prozac seems to make people go into this state of wanting to sleep
>all the time, after about the 3rd week of taking it.  Guess it is
>an effect of the nor-floxatine building up.
>What can one do about that?  Vary the dosage and get more of a floxatine
>vs nor-floxatine proportion in the blood stream?
>Are there any other similar sertonin uptake suppressors on the market
>Any other anti-depressants that have the nice effects of prozac but
>less of the bad side effects?
>


For some people, one 20 mg capsule of Prozac daily is too high a dose,
and some such people often do much better on 10 mg daily or 20 mg every 
other day or three times a week.  Sedation from Prozac is a very interesting
phenomena, not experienced by all people taking the medication; some people
report increased drowsiness after eating, or an increase in midafternoon
drowsiness, as if the biological siesta time was somehow exagerrated. 
Lower doses of Prozac can be had either by dissolving the contents of 
a prozac capsule in water and drinking half the volume (the other half
is good in the refrigerator for 24 hours) or by using the liguid preparation
of Prozac (e.g., 1/2 teaspoon daily).    People with daytime drowsiness on
Prozac should take note of how well they are sleeping at night; occasionally
Prozac causes daytime somnolence by interfering with quality sleep at night.
This is also usually a managable problem (either by dose reduction, or 
use of adjunctive medication (e.g., trazodone 50 mg hs)). 

Zoloft (sertraline) the antidepressant closest to Prozac in neurochemical
effects, seems to cause sedation more frequently than Prozac.  However,
some people feel more alert and energetic on it in comparison to Prozac.










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From: latwood@oodis01.af.mil (Lynette Atwood)
Newsgroups: sci.med,misc.kids
Subject: Re: Blood types - Eye Color
Date: 13 Aug 92 22:16:34 GMT
Followup-To: sci.med
Distribution: na
Organization: Hill AFB, Utah

In article <UeV5ZeG00WBO82aVhK@andrew.cmu.edu> lc2b+@andrew.cmu.edu (Lawrence Curcio) writes:
>A lady friend of mine has a gold chain with a jade ring. The ring is the
>size and exact shade of her iris - sometimes. At other times, her eyes
>turn gray (grey). One can hold up the jade ring as a color reference and
>verify the difference/sameness. In her case, eye color change is
>definitely not an illusion.

It's not an illusion with me either.  When I'm sick my normally hazel
eyes go very brown.  When I'm in a good mood (or mad) they go bright
green!  (Intense moods make intense green - feeling crummy makes dirt
brown).  My daughter has eyes that go from brown to blue depending on
her mood too.  People who know me well check my eye color to determine
my mood.  Strange huh.
Organisation: European Space Operation Centre (E.S.O.C)
Date: Monday, 17 Aug 1992 11:17:45 CET
From: <RFLOOD@ESOC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject:    Magnetic Fields

Last week there was a thread discussing the effect of magnetic fields on
healing, and I ventured the opinion that mag fields seem to work when used
to assist in bone regeneration.
This weekend I was talking to some members of the "Bund", a serious (German)
organisation, very long established, dedicated to the protection of the
ecosystem and environment. They have developed (and are selling) an electrical
water softener which uses no chemicals: just a magnetic field which realigns
crystals dissolved in water (and our local water is very hard indeed) so that
pipes, electric kettles, etc no longer 'fur up' with deposits. They claim
that the dissolved minerals remain in solution, so the water content is
unchanged, but that the changed structure prevents adhesion.
It occurred to me that if mag fields have this effect, they might indeed
change the properties of minerals in the body/bones etc.
Has anyone any hard evidence of this, or heard anything about magnetic
water softening ?
RaF
From: John.Willis@p123.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (John Willis)
Sender: Uucp@blkcat.UUCP
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Nutrition (Was FDA still at large)
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:48:00 -0500

Ken Mitchum recently stated:

 > "Nutrition" as a subject is hardly taught in medical
 > schools.

 > And ultimately we will learn
 > the answers,
 > and they will become a standard part of the
 > information imparted
 > in medical school.

Agreed

 > I suspect that most
 > doctors,
 > like myself, will persist in the belief that
 > relationship between
 > diet and disease is more indirect than the patient
 > wants to believe,
 > that most people don't have to worry about the RDA of
 > anything,
 > and that only kind of medically valid dietary advice
 > is going to
 > be something fairly vague, like "avoid fats" or "eat
 > as little
 > meat as possible".

 > If you want more specific advice,
 > you are going
 > to have to see a registered dietician, not a
 > physician.

 I understand and agree with most of this.  I will, however, go to the doctor
that understands what a well balanced diet is, etc...  I have been impressed
with some RDs, but on the whole I'm not too crazy about hospital food.  A well
trained quack, er, uh, I mean, uh, nutritionist, could provide the same.

John
:-)

Newsgroups: sci.med
From: salvaggi@sunshine.Kodak.COM (Nanette Salvaggio)
Subject: Whole milk verses 2%
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 15:23:07 GMT


I am looking for info on the reasons that my doctor recommends giving
my son whole milk as opposed to 2% or skim.  My son is 9.5 months old,
and very healthy.  He consumes around 28 oz. of milk daily.  Is
there some medical reason for one type over the other.

Thanks
Nanette
salvaggi@alnitak.kodak.com
From: mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Moderating the newsgroup; was: Re: unethical? (was: Smart Drugs)
Date: 18 Aug 92 20:51:43 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Aug18.195343.12580@eng.umd.edu> georgec@eng.umd.edu (George B. Clark) writes:
>In article <16119@pitt.UUCP> km@cs.pitt.edu (Ken Mitchum) writes:
>
>>I think the newsgroup should be moderated, preferably by a
>>non-physician without an axe to grind.
>
>That sounds like a great idea. I'll inquire at my end about how it
>can be done, and perhaps others will, too.

Might be a good idea.  It would filter out repetitious messages and
flames, and frequently asked questions could be dealt with more
efficiently.

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+ Unless otherwise noted, these are private opinions, not official statements.
+ VOTE NO GEORGIA LOTTERY - don't tie education to an unpredictable income.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: mstern@lindsay.Princeton.EDU (Marlene Stern)
Subject: craft boutique to benefit foundation
Originator: news@nimaster
Keywords: crafts
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:31:59 GMT

We will be holding a Craft Boutique, Saturday and Sunday, August 15 and 16,
10 a.m. to 4 p.m. at our home at 50 Wesleyan Drive, Hamilton Sq., NJ.  
Beautiful handmade items from over 40 crafters will be available for purchase.  
20% of all sales will be donated to the Lazar Foundation for Juvenile Laryngeal  
Papillomatosis.  Our 2 1/2 year old daughter Lindsay suffers from JLP, and
requires surgery every 3-4 weeks to remove growths from her larynx and vocal  
cords so she can breathe.  Lindsay has had 10 surgical procedures since her  
diagnosis in November 1991.  Please join us for a fun weekend and help us to  
help the children breathe.  For info call, Marlene and Bill Stern,
609-890-0502 or email mstern@lindsay.princeton.edu.

Thank you.
From: aschlie@uoft02.utoledo.edu (A.Schliesser)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Prolonged use of Ibuprofen
Date: 15 Aug 92 20:52:08 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

In article <1992Aug12.164053.19316@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, van@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (valerie.thompson) writes:
> 
> I have severe joint
> pain and no real diagnosis.  After a whole bunch of tests, the only positive
> result was the ANA, which may doctor said might indicate lupus.  After 
> running more tests, she said nothing else came out abnormal, and I could take
> ibuprophen for the pain.  In order to get pain relief, I take 600-1000mg
> two to three times a day (but not daily - maybe 3 or 4 times a week).  Is
> this much ibuprophen safe?  Is my doctor's diagnosis (or lack of it) a
> medically acceptable one?  Any information you can give me on side effects
> of this kind of ibuprophen intake and and my doctor's treatment of my
> symptoms would be appreciated.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Valerie Thompson
> 
-- 

For the average person, 3,200mg of ibuprofen is the max. daily limit. This
number decreases with renal disease and age.

As for the side effects, the most common is irratation of the stomach. This can
be prevented by taking ibuprofen with a meal.  

Long term studies have been done and suggest that *HIGH* doses for along peroid
of time can cause significant renal imparement.  From your discription, you do
not fit in the *HIGH* dose catagory.

Hope this answers some of your questions,

TS
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From: kim@techbook.com (Kim Larsen)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Hepatitis vaccine
Date: 20 Aug 92 05:20:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: techbook.1992Aug20.052052.1847
Organization: TECHbooks --- Public Access UNIX --- (503) 644-8135

In article <16130@pitt.UUCP> geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks) writes:
>That was the early vaccine.  With the new recombinant DNA
>vaccine, it is extremely safe.  You really should consider getting it
>if you are an active paramedic.  I got it even though I have
>much less contact with hep B patients than a paramedic would.

Do medical students/residents routinely get the hep B vaccine?

  --Kim
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From: mcovingt@athena.cs.uga.edu (Michael A. Covington)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: ********  MICROWAVE HAZARDS *******
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:46:42 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <MDF0.92Aug19122335@shemesh.GTE.com> mfeblowitz@gte.com writes:
>Is there any known danger when a microwave oven ages? Microwaces have
>been in many homes for several years, and are bound to deteriorate in
>some fashion. Are there any reliable diagnostic measures to be taken
>to ensure that they remain safe?
 
Radio Shack sells a small leakage detector, or you can make one yourself
by using a VHF diode as the probe and connecting a sensitive voltmeter
across it.  In a good oven, there should be a barely detectable response
when you run the probe right around the edges of the door, and no
response more than a couple of inches away.



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+ Unless otherwise noted, these are private opinions, not official statements.
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Newsgroups: sci.med
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Smartdrugs
Date: 17 Aug 92 14:46:42 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <1992Aug15.044159.9839@spdcc.com> dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer) writes:
>In article <9515.2A88B8C2@stjhmc.fidonet.org> Leon.Ubags@f211.n500.z2.fidonet.org (Leon Ubags) writes:
>>Is there anyone who can tell me more about socalled smartdrugs or has 
>>experience in using them e.g. Hydrazine,Phenylanaline and so on ?
>
>It doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that you mean "Hydergine", not
>hydrazine. :-)
>

Certainly he wouldn't want to make an ash of himself.



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From: jelia@world.std.com (Joe J Elia)
Subject: Re: Don't moderate sci.med
Summary: I Agree.
Keywords: moderate sci.med not 
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:39:27 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.211233.18467@newstand.syr.edu> mdkline@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Mark D. Kline) writes:
>
>It has been suggested that sci.med be moderated.  I oppose the idea;

Bravo, Mark, I agree.

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From: rjb3@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (robert.j.brown)
Subject: Diagnosis Problem
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:24:39 GMT
Keywords: swelling, fluid retention, muscular stiffness

This problem has been on-going for several months and its
onset was relatively sudden.  The pros have been stumped
so I don't feel bad at all asking for guesses from any
willing pros or semi-pros....Thank Y'all and I'm much obliged

My Father-in-Law is male cauc, 77 years old in reasonably good
health (till recently).  He had a minor heart attck about 5
yrs ago and has been taking various BP medicines w/ good success
but some side effects (thus changing around).

Within the last six months he has:

Been diagnosed with pleural mesothelioma (mostly a serendipitous
finding while trying to figure out his main problems - see below)
We hear that the mesothelioma is quite rare and not very amenable
to treatment.  However, he is told that his is the slow growing
kind.

Been diagnosed with mild rheumatoid arthritis.

THE PROBLEM:

He swells up along the arms and at his feet/ankles during the
night.  His muscles are rigid and body stiff and often takes him
many hours (till noon or as late as 4 - 5 pm) for him to be able to
shuffle around.  Good bit of pain, too.

He has been X-rayed, CAT scanned, MRI 'ed, blood tested, etc, etc,
to the point of frustration with no real clue from the docs
what the root of all this is.  They don't seem to be able to
relate this to his mesothelioma or the arthritis.

Any medication reactions that come to mind ?

My Aunt had a similar problem (in her 70s) and found out that it
was sclera derma.  Is this easy to test for and is it rare ?

Your turn !

Bobby - akgua!rjb

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From: Dr_mackie@med.umich.edu (Don Mackie)
Subject: Re: Anaphylactic shock - a vaccine ??
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 12:11:04 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.113958.49510@ccvax.ucd.ie> clissman@ccvax.ucd.ie asks:
>Re Analphylactic Shock
>
>I came across a reference here to a vaccine for anaphylaxis. Is there a
vaccine
>to protect against anaphylactic shock, induced by allergy to bee stings and
>other histamine reactions ? 
>Any information would be most welcome

There are some words about anaphylaxis which get used rather loosely. Strictly
speaking anaphylaxis is a rapid reaction of the body to an antigen to which it
has been sensitized. The mechanism includes the activation of immunoglobulins
and the end effect is the massive release of histamine. This may result in
bronchospasm, skin wheals and hypotension. The hypotension is the aspect that
is best referred to as shock. A vaccine is something that sensitizes the immune
system so that it can recognize and deal with pathogenic organisms on first
contact. Thus the term "vaccine against anaphylaxis" is inconsistent. One may
try to de-sensitize a person agains the antigen which causes anaphylaxis in
them. For example bee stings. If a patient is desensitized they will only be
"protected" against the specific antigens treated for. I think it is still
uncertain how effective de-sensitization treatment is. Adrenaline (epinephrine
in the US) will counteract the immediate effects of histamine and is the
treatment of choice for established anaphylaxis. Antihistamines block the
action of histamine. It is wise to give them before exposing a patient to
something which may cause anaphylaxis in that individual. They will not
significantly affect an established episode of anaphylaxis
From: geb@dsl.pitt.edu (gordon e. banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Warning issued on herbal treatment for obesity
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:40:43 GMT
Organization: Decision Systems Laboratory, Univ. of Pittsburgh, PA.

In article <714067218.F00003@blkcat.UUCP> John.Willis@p123.f349.n109.z1.fidonet.org (John Willis) writes:
>
>Maybe a bit archaic.  Maybe some doctor out there can translate some of this
>into modern-day medical terminology, or english.  But, there are parts of this
>that are not well understood, in particular the role of the spleen in digestion.
> Maybe if we took a moment to try and understand what was being said we might
>see that clue as to where we might find some answers. Now, Gordon, *that* would
>be 21st century medicine.

Historians of medicine can tell you where such ideas (as the spleen
being a digestive organ) originated.  Usually it came from some
person's theory, not based upon any science or investigations.
The ancients had all kinds of reasons for believing the things
they believed, but why we should accept them because they are
of such hoary age, is a mystery to me.  Aristotle's and Galen's
theories about what the liver and the spleen did bore little
resemblence to what we now know are their functions.  



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From: bhjelle@carina.unm.edu
Newsgroups: sci.med,misc.kids
Subject: Re: Hepatitis vaccine
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:00:16 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <hank.714368588@well.sf.ca.us> hank@well.sf.ca.us (Hank Roberts) writes:
>
>The new hepatitis C (yes, that's 'C') vaccine was mentioned in
>local newspapers within the past few days -- as having passed
>one small clinical trial. There's also one for hepatitis A.

That is interesting. The technology is in place, and the need is
there, so it is definitely reasonable to try to make such a
vaccine.
>
>There's also a "delta hepatitis" now, and my MD rather expects we'll
>see more and different hepatitis viruses as time goes on.

Delta virus was discovered years before hepatitis C. It is a
defective RNA virus that can infect people only with the help
of hepatitis B virus. It seems to augment the pathogenicity
(destructiveness) of hepatitis B.

Actually, we are now up to hepatitis E. The E virus is an
enterically-transmitted virus of the third world, and was
cloned by Greg Reyes (formerly of Genelabs) about a year
ago.

So the next hepatitis virus will be hepatitis F.

Brian
From: choudhri@njmsa.umdnj.edu (Ajay Choudhri)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Knee Surgery - Reconstructive
Date: 20 Aug 92 03:41:43 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Medical School, Newark NJ


Since I am not an authority on the actual procedure I wont say much
about the prognosis or results of reconstructive knee surgery. The
term reconstructive knee surgery is really vague though so its difficult
to even consider the seriousness of the problem.  Knee problems are generally
associated with sports mainly because most sports like basketball, football
or skiing require heavy planting or knee twisting.  From the sounds of it,
either her anterior or posterior cruciate ligaments may have been damaged
or even her collaterals.  The ligaments basically limit the amount of 
extension or flexion occuring at the joint.  Obviously, you can be predisposed
to knee problems but they really are exarcebated by heavy sport activity.  
College basketball will take its toll on a good or repaired knee and 
its really up to the individual, alot of times, the best way to overcome
knee instability is to really strenghten the surrounding muscles, in other
cases I know of a couple of psychotic rugby players who play without
problems with no ACL in one of their legs.  Knee surgery is one of the most
common procedures now being done by orthopedic surgeons mainly becuase
recreational and competitive sports take a heavy heavy toll on this joint.
 -Ajay