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From: steven@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Steve Stergakis)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.oops
Subject: INFO NEEDED on OOA Methodologies
Date: 8 Apr 92 09:54:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: monu6.1992Apr8.095424.4965
Organization: Monash University, Caulfield Campus


NOTE: this message has been posted for persons that either use, teach 
or have some opinion regarding current OOA methodologies being 
used...

THIS MESSAGE HAS BEEN CROSS POSTED TO MANY NEWS GROUPS.  PLEASE 
DISREGARD IT IF HAS BEEN POSTED TO AN INCORRECT AREA.

i am a postgraduate student who is currently studying OOA and 
would greatly appreciate any information regarding experience
you have had with object oriented methodologies

as i am about to write a critical review of the current OO methodologies i 
would appreciate if you could tell me which approach you prefer.. or if
you know of any article that have compared current OOA methods, that would
also be greatly appreciated...

i am especially interested in persons who use such methodologies 
in practice.. their extent of their use in your work area.. 
the type of work you do.... and your opinion!

PLEASE feel free to comment on any of the above questions.. if you do
not wish to relate specific information pertaining to your work /
work environment, then leave it out

NOTE: if possible please reply directly to me 

thanks in advance

+------------------------------------------------------------+
| Steven Stergakis      steven@monu6.monash.cc.edu.au        |
|                                                            |
|                       (Post Graduate)                      |
|                       Faculty of Computing and Information |
|                       Technology                           |
|                                                            |
|                       Monash University - Australia        | 
+------------------------------------------------------------+
From: logic@mtak.bsj.com (Masami Takikawa)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.oops
Subject: Re: class purpose of OOA and OOP
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:11:13 GMT
	<HIRONOBU.92Apr8194553@ext221.sra.co.jp>
Reply-To: logic@mtak.bsj.com (Masami Takikawa)
Distribution: fj
Organization: Oregon State University, Computer Science Dept.
Posting-Front-End: Terakoya-u kaku 2.04 March 31, 1990

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In article <HIRONOBU.92Apr8194553@ext221.sra.co.jp>
	hironobu@sra.co.jp (Hironobu Suzuki) writes:
>
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>Timothy Budd$B!J$3$N?M$C$F(Jftp$B$G$-$k(Jlittle Smalltalk$B$H$$$&$N$r0JA0:n$C$F(J
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>
>Timoth Budd, "An Introduction to Object-Oriented Programming",
>Addsion-Wesley, p1--p17a,pr, 1991.

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Argue either for or against the position that computing is basically
simulation.

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From: yasuhiro@dcl.co.jp (Yasuhiro 'Orange' Morishita)
Subject: Re: UUCP over ISDN
Organization: Yokogawa Digital Computer Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: fj
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 16:21:06 GMT

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In article <1992Apr9.144453.4598@etl.go.jp> sekiguti@etl.go.jp (Satoshi Sekiguchi) writes:
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>$B$o$+$j$^$;$s!%(J

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Tel: 0466-47-5111 ext.3329 E-Mail:<yasuhiro@dcl.co.jp>
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From: nakayama@ume.tutkie.tut.ac.jp (Masaya NAKAYAMA)
Subject: UUCP/TCP problem between SunOS4.0.3 and SunOS4.1.1
Followup-To: fj.comp.comm
Organization: Dept. of Know. Info. Eng., Toyohashi Univ. of Tech., JAPAN
Distribution: fj
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 07:17:32 GMT


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		nakayama@tutkie.tut.ac.jp
		$BCf;32m:H!!!w!!K-665;=Q2J3XBg3X(J
Newsgroups: fj.comp.comm
From: nakayama@ume.tutkie.tut.ac.jp (Masaya NAKAYAMA)
Subject: Re: UUCP/TCP problem between SunOS4.0.3 and SunOS4.1.1
Reply-To: nakayama@tutkie.tut.ac.jp
Organization: Dept. of Know. Info. Eng., Toyohashi Univ. of Tech., JAPAN
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 11:14:58 GMT

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In article <1992Apr8.094816.27694@dit.co.jp>
	toku@dit.co.jp (Yoshitaka Tokugawa) writes:
>nakayama@ume.tutkie.tut.ac.jp (Masaya NAKAYAMA) writes:
>>$B8=:_!"(JUUCP/TCP $B$rMQ$$$FC1J}8~8F$S=P$7$K$h$k(J batch $BE>Aw$r9T$J$*$&$H(J
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>
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From: saitoh@icsts1.osaka-u.ac.jp (SAITOH Akinori)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.comm
Subject: Re: Wanted: anonymous kermit server
Date: 11 Apr 92 16:19:06 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: tokura-lab., Osaka Univ., Japan

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In article <OKABE.92Apr9210020@sabot.kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp>, okabe@kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Yasuo Okabe) writes:
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From: taka@fxis.fujixerox.co.jp (Takahiro Kanbe)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.comm
Subject: Re: UUCP over ISDN
Date: 10 Apr 92 01:28:01 GMT
	<1992Apr9.162106.11730@dclsic.dcl.co.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: Fuji Xerox Information Systems Co., Ltd., Tokyo, Japan.
X-Nntp-Posting-Host: aron.nwt.fxis.fujixerox.co.jp
In-reply-to: yasuhiro@dcl.co.jp's message of 9 Apr 92 16:21:06 GMT

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In article <1992Apr9.162106.11730@dclsic.dcl.co.jp>
	yasuhiro@dcl.co.jp (Yasuhiro 'Orange' Morishita) writes:
> Sun$B$N(BRS-232C$B%]!<%H$O(B64K/Sync$B$G$A$c$s$HF0:n$7$^$9!#(B
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--
Takahiro Kanbe <taka@fxis.fujixerox.co.jp>	FXIS / Network Team.
From: motonori@kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Motonori Nakamura)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.comm
Subject: Re: UUCP/TCP problem between SunOS4.0.3 and SunOS4.1.1
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:26:26 GMT
Reply-To: motonori@kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp
Followup-To: fj.comp.comm
Distribution: fj
Organization: Dept. of Info. Sci., Kyoto Univ., JAPAN

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In article <1992Apr8.071732.15800@tutkie.tut.ac.jp> nakayama@ume.tutkie.tut.ac.jp (Masaya NAKAYAMA) writes:

 >>$@8=:_!"(JUUCP/TCP $@$rMQ$$$FC1J}8~8F$S=P(J$@$7$K$h$k(J batch $@E>Aw$r9T$J$*$&$H(J
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 >>bsd-sources $@$K$"$C$?(J uucpd $@$rD>$7$FF0$+$=$&$H$7$F$$$k$N$G$9$,!"$I$&$b(J
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From: mugitani@bobcat.islix.sharp.co.jp (Kouhei Mugitani)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.comm,fj.news.misc
Subject: Re: Disable Connect UUCP by MODEM
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:12:45 GMT
Followup-To: fj.comp.comm
Distribution: fj


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In <2269@jasco3.tas.co.jp> ichi@jasco3.tas.co.jp (Hiroyuki Ichimura) writes:

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bobcat is MIPS RS-3230/risc-os4.52
Newsgroups: fj.comp.comm
From: sekiguti@etl.go.jp (Satoshi Sekiguchi)
Subject: UUCP over ISDN
Originator: sekiguti@etlsig
Organization: Electrotechnical Lab.
Distribution: fj
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:44:53 GMT

INS$B%M%C%H(B64 $B$K$h$k(B UUCP $B$r8!F$$7$F$$$^$9$,!$%b%G%`$K(B
$B$D$$$FG:$s$G$$$^$9!%6qBNE*$J>&IJ;v>p!&>u67$J$I$r65$((B
$B$FD:$-$?$/%]%9%H$7$^$9!%(B

$B8=>u!'(B
        System   OS                        Modem
Host A: Sparc330 SunOS 4.1.1+JLE1.1.1RevB  MD96FS5V
Host B: Sun3/60  SunOS 4.0.3               MD96FS5V

$B$NAj8_$G$3$l$^$G$N%"%J%m%0(B($B2;@<(B)$B2s@~$r;H$C$F(Buucp$B$7$F(B
$B$$$^$9$,!$:#EYAPJ}$H$b%"%J%m%02s@~$+$i(B ISDN $B$KJQ99$9(B
$B$k$3$H$K$J$j$^$7$?!%$3$l$KH<$C$FAPJ}$N@_Hw$r0l?7$9$k(B
$B$N$G$9$,!$$=$3$G$I$N$h$&$J7ABV!&>&IJ$G@\B3$9$k$N$,$h(B
$B$$$+$rCN$j$?$$$N$G$9!%(B

$B>r7o#1!'(B $B$3$l$^$G$N%"%J%m%0EEOC$,@\B3$G$-$k$3$H(B
$B>r7o#2!'(B $B>/$J$/$H$b(B 9.6K $B0J>e$G@\B3$G$-$k$3$H(B
$B>r7o#3!'(B $B%"%J%m%0EEOC$H%b%G%`$OF1;~$KMxMQ$G$-$k$3$H(B
$B>r7o#4!'(B $B$3$NN><T$G(B uucp $B$G$-$l$P$h$/!$B>$H$N@\B3$O(B
         $B9M$($J$/$FNI$$(B
$B>r7o#5!'(B $B2s@~8r497@Ls$7$+$7$J$$(B
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$B>r7o#7!'(B $B:#!$;HMQCf$N%b%G%`$OB>$KN.MQ$G$-$k$N$G!$?7(B
        $B5,$K9XF~$r8!F$$7$F$h$$!%(B

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$B$G$O(B 64K $B$"$C$F$bL5BL$K$J$k$N$G$O!)(B $B$3$N$"$?$j$O$h$/(B
$B$o$+$j$^$;$s!%(B

$B$r8=:_$N8!F$BP>]$H$7$F$$$^$9$,!$F1MM$N>&IJ$d%+%?%m%0(B
$B$r8+$k$?$a$NCm0UE@!$$=$NB>$N%3%a%s%H$rD:$1$l$P9,$$$K(B
$BB8$8$^$9!%(B

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From: nisimura@sran233.sra.co.jp (Tohru Nishimura)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.comm
Subject: Re: UUCP over ISDN
Date: 10 Apr 92 04:46:37 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Software Research Associates, Inc., Japan

In article <1992Apr9.144453.4598@etl.go.jp> sekiguti@etl.go.jp
	(Satoshi Sekiguchi) writes:

> INS$B%M%C%H(B64 $B$K$h$k(B UUCP $B$r8!F$$7$F$$$^$9$,!$%b%G%`$K(B
> $B$D$$$FG:$s$G$$$^$9!%6qBNE*$J>&IJ;v>p!&>u67$J$I$r65$((B
> $B$FD:$-$?$/%]%9%H$7$^$9!%(B

$B$5$5$$$J$3$H$G$9$,!"(BISDN TA $B$O%b%G%`(B (modulator/demodular) $B$8$c(B
$B$"$j$^$;$s$h!#%"%J%m%0%b%G%`$H%7%j%"%k%$%s%?%U%'!<%9MQ(B ISDN TA $B$O(B
$BJLJ*$G$9$N$G$4Cm0U$r!#(B

> $B#2!%%b%G%`$H%"%J%m%0%]!<%H$N0lBN7?!%(B
> $BNc$($P!$F|N)%F%l%3%`(B NB64MB (159,000$B1_(B)
> $BF14|$G(B64K$B!$HsF14|$G(B19.2K $B$^$G!%(BSun $B$N(B RS232C $B%]!<%H(B
> $B$G$O(B 64K $B$"$C$F$bL5BL$K$J$k$N$G$O!)(B $B$3$N$"$?$j$O$h$/(B
> $B$o$+$j$^$;$s!%(B

V.110 rate adaption $B$K=>$C$FHsF14|%7%j%"%k%$%s%?%U%'!<%9$r@_7W$9$k$H(B
Basic Rate Interface $B$G$O>e8B$O(B 19200bps $B$H$J$j$^$9!#$G$b$$$$$8$c$J$$(B
$B$G$9$+!"I8=`9=@.$NHsF14|%]!<%H$G$=$l0J>e$NB.EY$G$A$c$s$HF0$/$b$N$O(B
$B?t>/$J$$$s$G$9$+$i!#(BUNIX $B$GF14|%]!<%H$G%@%$%d%k%"%C%W$J$s$FM_$r8@$$(B
$B$O$8$a$k$H!"%O%^$j$^$9$h!#$9$0$K$G$-$k$3$H$+$i;O$a$J$$$H!#(B

$BHsF14|%7%j%"%k(B 1 $B%]!<%H$N(B ISDN TA $B$GDc2A3J$N$b$N$G$9$H!"(B

	INS $B%a%$%H(B D-2	(== NEC Aterm 110-20)
		NTT $B$+$iGc$&$H(B 15 $BK|1_$G$*$D$j$,$/$k(B 

	ST-64
		$B$3$$$D$O(B V.110 $B$G$J$$$N$G!"F1$8$b$N$N4V$G$7$+DL?.(B
		$B$G$-$J$$$,!"(B38400bps $B$@$=$&$G!#(B
		SUN $B$K$D$J$$$G(B 38400bps UUCP $B$7$F$$$k$H8@$C$F$$$?$,!D(B
		$BDj2A$O(B 15 $BK|1_$@$=$&$@(B

$B$3$N<o$N(B ISDA TA $B$NA*Br>e$NCm0U$H$7$F$O!"$[$H$s$I$N$b$N$,(B AT $B%3%^%s%I(B
$B$O$J$/(B V.25bis $B$J$N$G!"5$J,$,0-$$!#(B
$B$^$!(B UUCP $B$J$i5!3#$,H/Ce?.$9$k$N$G5$$K$7$J$1$l$P$h$$$@$1!#(B

$B$^$?%"%J%m%0EEOC%]!<%H$r(B 2 $B$DDs6!$9$k(B ISDN TA $B$GDc2A3J$N$b$N$G$9$H!"(B

	NEC Aterm 115
		9 $BK|1_$G$*$D$j$,$/$k(B

$B%7%j%"%k%$%s%?%U%'!<%9$N?t$H%?%$%W!"%"%J%m%0%]!<%H$NM-L5$NAH9g$;$G(B
ISDA TA $B$N2A3J$O$$$m$$$m$HJQF0$7$^$9!#$9$Y$F$NEE5$%3%s%T%e!<%?(B
$B%a!<%+!<$,!"$=$l$>$l$K(B ISDN TA $B$rH/Gd$7$F$$$^$9!#;d8+$G$9$,!"(B
$B$I$N(B ISDN TA $B$b%I%s%0%j$NGX$/$i$Y$H$$$&$+!"7hDjHG$O(B*$B$$$^$@$K(B*$B$J$$$h$&$G$9!#(B

SRA $B4D6-;Y1gIt!!@>B<!!5|(B
Newsgroups: fj.comp.comm
From: yasuhiro@dcl.co.jp (Yasuhiro 'Orange' Morishita)
Subject: Re: UUCP/TCP problem between SunOS4.0.3 and SunOS4.1.1
Organization: Yokogawa Digital Computer Corporation, Tokyo, Japan
Distribution: fj
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 09:38:46 GMT

In article <8657@icsts1.osaka-u.ac.jp> saitoh@icsts1.osaka-u.ac.jp (SAITOH Akinori) writes:
>$B$=$&$;$:$KL5M}LpM}F0$+$9$K$O!"8zN($r5>@7$K$9$kI,MW$,$"$j$^$9!#(J
>$B4pK\E*%"%$%G%#%"$r0J2<$K<($7$^$9!#(J

$B$J$k$[$I!"$3$l$,$:$$$V$sA0$K8@$C$F$$$?$"$l$G$9$M!#(J
$B3N$+$K$3$l$8$c$*$=$$$H;W$$$^$9!#$@$C$FM>7W$J(Jpty$B%H%s%M%k$r(J
1$B$DDL$9$s$G$9$+$i!"!"!"!#$=$l$KNc$($P(Jpty$B$N%3!<%I$,(JBUGGY
$B$@$C$?$j$9$k5!3#(J($B$?$H$($P$=$N$X$s$N$J$s$H$+(JV$B$H$+(J)$B$@$H(J
$B$J$s$@$+6lO+$9$kMM$J5$$b$7$^$9$7!"!"!"!#(J

$B$G$b$$$+$K$b(Jtty lover$B$NsnF#$5$s(J($B$[$a8@MU(J)$B$i$7$$%3!<%I$G$9$M!#(J

$B$*$l$s$8(J
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$B?92<(J "$B%*%l%s%8(J" $BBY9((J, Yasuhiro 'Orange' Morishita
$B2#2O%G%#%8%?%k%3%s%T%e!<%?(J($B3t(J) SI$BK\It(J $B>pJs@oN,%0%k!<%W(J
Tel: 0466-47-5111 ext.3329 E-Mail:<yasuhiro@dcl.co.jp>
$B!A$?!<$$$3C!$$$FE+?a$$$F(J
From: tomo@axis.co.jp (Tomoyuki Sakakibara)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.comm
Subject: Re: UUCP/TCP problem between SunOS4.0.3 and SunOS4.1.1
Date: 10 Apr 92 09:18:26 GMT
	<8651@icsts1.osaka-u.ac.jp>
Distribution: fj
Organization: AXIS Corporation, Nagoya, Japan
In-reply-to: saitoh@icsts1.osaka-u.ac.jp's message of 9 Apr 92 07:23:10 GMT

$B%"%/%7%9$N:g86$G$9!#(B
$B:#2s$N7o$NH/8FB&$G$9$,!"!"!"!#(B

>>>>> On 9 Apr 92 07:23:10 GMT, saitoh@icsts1.osaka-u.ac.jp (SAITOH
>>>>> Akinori) said:

saitoh> $BKM$N:G=i$N<:(B$BGT$O(B #ifdef $B$N$O$6$^$G!"(Bexecl $B$,>C$($F$7$^$C$?$3(B
saitoh> $B$H$G$9$,!"$=$l$OBg>fIW$G$9$+!)(B

$B$5$9$,$K$=$l(B$B$O$J$$$H;W$&$s$G$9$,!"!"!"!#(B

saitoh> SUN OS 4.1.1 $B$O(B HDB uucp $B$G$9$h$M!#(B Devices $B$,(B
saitoh> TCP,et - - Any TCP -
saitoh> $B$K$J$C$F$^$;$s$+!)(B
saitoh> TCP,etg - - Any TCP -
saitoh> $B$KD>$7$?$iF0$/$s$8$c$J$$(B$B$+$J$!!#(B

$B$3$l$O5$$,$D$$$F;n$7$F$_$^$7$?$,!"$&$^$/$$$C$F$^$;$s!#(B
$B$=$b$=$b(B -x9 $B$G8+$F$_$F$bAj<j$K7Q$C$?(B$B;~$K$J$K$b$$$C$F$-$^$;$s!#(B

$BIaDL!"$D$J$,$k$HCe8FB&$+$i(B"^PShere=" $B$FMh$^$9$h$M!#$3$l$b$J$$!#(B
telnet xxx 540 $B$H$d$C$F$b(B login:, Password: $B$ODL$k$N$@$1$l$I$bF1$8>u67(B
$B$G$9!#(B

$B%W%m%H%3%k%M%4%7%(!<%7%g%s0JA0$N(B$B>uBV$N$h$&$J5$$,$7$^$9!#(B

--
      $B:g86(B $BCRG7(B Tomoyuki Sakakibara <tomo@axis.co.jp> AXIS Corporation
From: kikuchi@prometheus.cec.co.jp (Masaya Kikuchi)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.comm
Subject: Re: UUCP over ISDN
Date: 10 Apr 92 05:18:29 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Chuo Electronics Co., Ltd. Tokyo, Japan.
In-reply-to: sekiguti@etl.go.jp's message of 9 Apr 92 14:44:38 GMT


$@$3$s$K$A$O!"(J$@4X8}$5$s!#(J  $@0JA0(J SIGMA-1 $@$G$*@$OC$K$J$C$?(J CEC$@$N5FCO$G$9!#(J

In article <1992Apr9.144453.4598@etl.go.jp> sekiguti@etl.go.jp (Satoshi Sekiguchi) writes:

>   INS$@%M%C%H(J64 $@$K$h$k(J UUCP $@$r8!F$$7$F$$$^$9$,!$%b%G(J$@%`$K(J
>  $@$D$$$FG:$s$G$$$^$9!#(J
                        .
                        .
>   $@$r8=:_$N8!F$BP>](J$@$H$7$F$$$^$9$,!$F1MM$N>&IJ$d%+%?%m%0(J
>   $@$r8+$k$?$a$NCm0UE@!$$=$NB>$N%3%a%s%H$rD:$1$l$P9,$$$K(J
>   $@B8$8(J$@$^$9!%(J
>     $@4X8}CR;L!wEE;R5;=QAm9g8&5f=j(J (sekiguti@etl.go.jp)

$@$($C$H!"M=;;!?%9%Z%C%/%*!<%P!<$K$J$C$F(J$@$7$^$&$N$G9MN8$NHO0O30$K$J$C$F$7$^$$(J
$@$^$9$,!";29M$K$J$l$P9,$$$G$9!#(J

$@8=:_!"<RFb$N(J IP link $@MQ$K(J NetBlazer $@$K(J 64k $@F14|%\!<%I$rF~$l$F(J ISDN 64k $@$G(J
$@1?MQ$7$F$$$^$9!#(J  TA$@$OAPJ}$H$b8f;XE&$N(J $@F|N)%F%l%3%`(J NB64MB $@$G$9!#(J

$@$3$NAH9g$;$G!"(Jftp $@$GLs(J 7.5kbyte/sec ( with PPP link ) $@$,F@$i$l$F$$$^$9$N$G!"(J
$@$H$C$F$b2wE,$G$9(J$@!#(J
$@Cm0U$9$Y$-E@$H$7$F$O!"(J NetBlazer $@$N(J 1.42x7-test $@0J9_$N%P!<%8%g%s$r;H$o$J$$$H(J
$@BLL\$_$?$$$G$9!#!J$3$N(J$@%P!<%8%g%s$+$i!"(J v25bis server $@5Z$S(J v25dialout $@%0%k!<%W$,(J
$@<BAu$5$l$F$*$j!"$3$l$r(J on $@$K$9$k$3$H$K$h$j(J dialup v25bis $@$rC}$k$h$&$K$J$j$^$9!K(J

kikuchi

P.S.
	$@$b$7(J IP link $@$K$9$k$J$i(J etl $@$O(J WIDE $@$KF~$C$F$$$k(J$@$N$G!"$*$l$s$87/$N(J
	$@8@$&DL$j(JSun$@MQ$N%I%i%$%P!<$r<j$KF~$l$i$l$k$N$,0lHV<j$C<h$jAa$$$H$O(J
	$@;W$$$^$9$,(J...

P.P.S.
	NetBlazer $@$N(J 1.42x7-test $@$O$=$NL>$N<($9$H$&$j!"&B%P!<%8%g%s$G$9$N$G(J
	$@F0:n$,J]>Z$5$l$F$$$k$o$1(J$@$G$O$J$$$3$H$K8fCm0U2<$5$$!#(J ( telbit.com $@$+$i(J
	ftp $@$G<j$KF~$k$H;W$$$^$9!K(J
From: saitoh@icsts1.osaka-u.ac.jp (SAITOH Akinori)
Newsgroups: fj.comp.comm
Subject: Re: UUCP/TCP problem between SunOS4.0.3 and SunOS4.1.1
Date: 9 Apr 92 07:23:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: icsts1.8651
Distribution: fj
Organization: tokura-lab., Osaka Univ., Japan

In article <1992Apr8.071732.15800@tutkie.tut.ac.jp>, nakayama@ume.tutkie.tut.ac.jp (Masaya NAKAYAMA) writes:
> bsd-sources $B$K$"$C$?(J uucpd $B$rD>$7$FF0$+$=$&$H$7$F$$$k$N$G$9$,!"$I$&$b(J
> $B:G8e$K(J execl $B$5$l$k(J uucico $B$,@5>o$KF0:n$7$J$$MM;R$G!"2?$b$7$J$$$G(J
> connection $B$,@ZCG$5$l$F$7$^$&$H$$$&>uBV$G$9!#(J
$B$[$s$H$&$K$=$&$G$9$+!)(J
execl $B$5$l$F$^$9$+!)(J

$BKM$O(J 4.3BSD $B$+$i(J $B%7%0%^(J WS(+ tahoe uucpd) $B$r8F$S=P$7$F!"?t%1(J
$B7n1?MQ$7$?7P83$,$"$j$^$9!#(J

$BKM$N:G=i$N<:GT$O(J #ifdef $B$N$O$6$^$G!"(Jexecl $B$,>C$($F$7$^$C$?$3(J
$B$H$G$9$,!"$=$l$OBg>fIW$G$9$+!)(J

UUCP/TCP $B$O(J t-protocol $B$r%G%U%)%k%H$G;H$$$^$9!#(J
$B$7$+$7!"(J4.3BSD$B$+$i(JTCP $BBP1~$G$J$$(J uucico $B$rL5M}LpM}(J uucpd
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