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From: david@eng.umd.edu (David Chi-Chung Lu)
Subject: Caps training camp
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 03:57:44 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park

The Caps have been training at their Piney Orchard center.  All
players are signed and have reported.  The only mysteries remaining
are who the sixth defenseman is and how they are going to fit all
those LW on the team.  No women.  No horses.  Same old boring team,
like they have been for years.

Don Beaupre and Jim Hrivnak are easily the top 2 goalies.  13
defensemen are in camp, with 8 going for the last spot.  Rod Langway,
Kevin Hatcher, Al Iafrate, Sylvain Cote, and Calle Johannsen are
locks.  Brad Schlegel, Ken Sabourin, and Jason Woolley are the
favorites for the last spot.  Also in camp are John Slaney, Shawn
Anderson, Ken Klee, Jim Mathieson, and Bob Babcock.

There are 4 new faces on the front line.  Yvon Corriveau and Mark
Hunter were acquired in the trade with Hartford for Nick Kypreos.  Bob
Carpenter was acquired from Boston over the summer. (in Steve Leach
trade?)  Kevin Miller was acquired in the trade with Detroit for Dino
Ciccarelli.  Corriveau and Carpenter are making their second rounds
through Washington.  The other meaningful players in camp, off the top
of my head:

Dale Hunter                           Peter Bondra
Kelly Miller                          John Druce
Mike Ridley                           Dmitri Khristich
Randy Burridge (IR-knee, still)       Michal Pivonka
Steve Konowalchuk                     Todd Krygier  
Alan May (the only one who might go helmetless)

My apologies to the guy acquired from Winnipeg last year.  I forgot
his name.

Besides the traded players, Dave Tippett (signed by Pit), Mike Liut
(retired), and Tim Bergland (expansion draft) are missing this year.

HOW TO WEAR A HELMET WITHOUT WEARING A HELMET:
Dale Hunter is still wearing a toy Jofa helmet that he got in his
1st Quebec training camp.  It says "Do not use for ice hockey or
roller skating."

Dave Lu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: hoebel@cs.rochester.edu (Lou Hoebel)
Subject: Re: Fickle Edmonton Fans(Was Re: Damphouse)
Organization: Computer Science Department University of Rochester
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 12:26:37 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.125250.9838@idacom.hp.com> kenl@idacom.UUCP (Ken Loo) writes:
>In article <1992Aug30.012100.29625@access.usask.ca> gerry@skatter.usask.ca writes:
>
[edmonton bashing deleted]
>
>I think this comment on Edmonton fans is really unfair.  The same can be
>said of most North American cities, "fickleness" is relative to the success
>of the sports franchise.  Hell your precious Montreal is probably the most
>fickle city in Canada!  They couldn't support the Alouttes, they almost 
>killed the Expos last year, and they continously dumped on the Habs all
>of last year despite the fact the Habs won first place in the Adams!
>
>The only cities which appear immune to this "fickleness" are the big
>cities which should have the population to weather out these dips in
>attendence.  By "big" cities, I'm referring to New York, Chicago, LA,
>and Toronto.  Although Montreal kinda blows a hole in my "big city"
>theory.
Some holes in this theory? I don't know.
Tickets to the less than successful Leafs and the more than successful
Canadiens are terribly hard to come by.
Tickets to the Expos, having great success for this late in the season,
are easy to come by. Less than 13K at last nights game.....say did the Habs
opening training camp or something?
The oilers more humble standings of late coincide with a pretty good
slump in the oil patch. attendendance may relate more to economies
than standings. ( go you stats types...lets have some analysis!)

Pittsburgh and Baltimore have had successful baseball teams and yet have
not been huge draws ( pitt is doing better these days but not quite
in line with their on field success; Balt. has a new stadium now)


-- 
->Louis Hoebel
  Computer Science Department 	hoebel@cs.rochester.edu
  University of Rochester       {ames|rutgers}!rochester!hoebel
  Rochester NY 14627            716 275 5414
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From: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU (Nelson Lu)
Subject: Re: Hockey Poolers!!
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 23:11:39 GMT

In article <9209070530.AA00173@malibu.sfu.ca> chim@sfu.ca (Alan Chim) writes:

>#5  Ray Whitney  -- Dimnutive play-making center in the mould of a Cliff
>Ronning.  Lots of offensive potential, high-scoring linemate of Pat
>Falloon on the Spokane Chiefs.  The question is, can Falloon and Whitney
>recreate the magic they displayed on the Chiefs.  Also, had the season
>playing in the IHL hurt Whitney?  Whitney did play 2 games last year
>totalling 3 assists.

Whitney, like Falloon, might have some defensive problems initially, but I
don't think that's measured in most hockey pools. :-)  I don't think playing
in the IHL hurt Whitney; if we believe Ray himself, he thinks that it *helped*
him greatly.  That was the reason why he did not want to return to Spokane.
>
>#6  Johann Garpenlov  -- Major sleeper.  Didn't do much in Detroit, but
>once he got traded to San Jose, I think he averaged near a point a game.
>I think he played with Falloon (correct me if I'm wrong Nelson) and
>if the Sharks decide to have a Garpenlov-Whitney-Falloon combo as a first
>line, Garpenlov could do well.  I'd take him in my pool if the Sharks
>decide to make this move.

That is the line they used for the final game of the season.  Expect it to
stick.  (Falloon and Garpenlov became linemates when the Sharks acquired
Garpenlov, and they played the rest of the way as linemates, so I assume they
will play together again.)  BTW, he scored 11 points as a Shark, but I am not
sure how many games that's over, but he can't have played any more than ~15.

===============================================================================
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Go for Next Year! :-(
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Pat Falloon for Hart! :-) Neil Wilkinson for Norris!  ('92-'93)
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
From: dufours@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Dufour Stephen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: USENET Hockey Draft - Proposed Rule Change
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:25:36 GMT
Organization: Groupe de dynamique non-lineaire (Universite de Montreal)

In article <1992Sep11.222556.8332@col.hp.com> smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith) writes: 
>Personally, I'd like to see the minimum price be 30-40.  The more players
>are eligible, the more skill involved in maintaining a team.  Drop the
>price to 30, and you can look for low-scoring players who are
>doing moderately well, to aid your team.  
>
>BUT, that means a lot more work for Andrew in maintaining the players
>database.  Only he can decide how much work he can do on it, and thus
>on the minimum price...
>

I completely aggree with Walter!  It's really fun to watch those longshots
going.

Thus, count my vote for a minimum price drop.

--
Steven Dufour
Departement de mathematiques      "La recherche de la verite doit etre
et de statistique.                 le but de notre activite;  c'est la
Universite de Montreal             seule fin qui soit digne d'elle."
 
E-mail:dufours@MathCN.UMontreal.CA                Jules Henri Poincare
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From: wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk)
Subject: Re: Lindros and Rheaume notes
Reply-To: wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 21:36:03 GMT

In article <1992Sep15.195859.22984@cs.rochester.edu>, hoebel@cs.rochester.edu (Lou Hoebel) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep15.154254.18552@bmerh85.bnr.ca> wizz@bnr.ca (Boris Volk) writes:
|> >  Let's get real here. The ONLY reason she is in camp, is to get Tampa some
|> >free publicity, and from your reaction (and ABC's) it is working perfectly. I
|> >can't fault Espo, he really is a snake oil salesman.
|> >
|> > Ms Rheaume resume reads as follows:
|> >
|> > - shared goakeeping duties in last Women's world championship
|> > - played 11 minutes of 1 period in a Quebec junior game. She allowed 3 goals
|> >   and had to leave after taking a shot to the head.
|> 
|> 
|> Young Squire Volk's post smells of real sexism here. Perhaps I'm too
|> harsh on the young fellow, perhaps he'll grow up from his ignorant
|> position and take a less biased view of situation. The selective
|> posting of Rheaume's accomplisments supports this theory. She was the 
|> leading goalie on the team that dominanted the World Championships. I believe
|> she had a good record in Major Junior B, don't know if she played A.
|> I think she is 19 or 20 ...already with more accomplishments than 
|> most men can brag about.
|>
 The 11 minutes of one period was a Quebec junior A game. In all fairness, there
isn't a single goalie in the league who didn't play Junior A calibre hockey 
(US college hockey is about the same) Junior B just doesn't cut it as a potenial
source of pro talent. There have been a couple of players that started in
junior B, played a season or 2 in Jr A and then gone on to NHL careers. One
period in Jr A is laughable.
 
|> I know she is not the only goalie to be stunned by a shot to the head.
|> Most of the goalies in my whimp-ass league duck.

No doubt she has the courage to play the position. The note about leaving the
game early was to indicate that she wasn't pulled because of performance but
because of injury.

|> 
|> The prior posts say she's doing well in  NHL traing camp scrimmages....
|> again more than most can brag about.
|> 
|> She may not make it in the NHL or the AHL...but she may, and if she gets a
|> an opportunity to try because of her gender....great...about time.
  	                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Now this is real sexism!
   
 If you have followed some of Espo's comments about her, you would have to
seriously doubt his intentions in the whole matter, ie "If I had a horse that
could skate I would put it on the ice too". I think you fail to see that Espo
isn't in this for anything else but a promotional gimic.

Boris Volk
From: Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: BOSTON NEWS: Exhibition Schedule
Date: 13 Sep 92 15:02:54 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Boston Bruins Exhibition Schedule

Fri, Sept 18 Boston vs NYI          (at Albany, N.Y.)
Sat, Sept 19 Boston vs Washington   (at Providence, R.I.)
Wed, Sept 23 Boston vs Montreal     (at Montreal)
Fri, Sept 25 Boston vs Washington   (at Washington)
Mon, Sept 28 Boston vs Edmonton     (at Sydney, N.S.)
Wed, Sept 30 Boston vs Philadelphia (at Jacksonville, Fla.)
Thu,  Oct  1 Boston vs Philadelphia (at Atlanta)
Fri,  Oct  2 Boston vs Tampa Bay    (at Tampa Bay)
Sat,  Oct  3 Boston vs Tampa Bay    (at Atlanta)

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From: gak@wrs.com (Richard Stueven)
Subject: Pizza!
Reply-To: gak@wrs.com
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 17:32:13 GMT

In article 15354@umd5.umd.edu, knox@monster.umd.edu (Garry Knox) writes:
> I thought it was the free pizza we get everytime the Captials score 6 goals?

Ha!  The Sharks only have to score three for us to get pizza!

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From: stanm@comm.mot.com (Stan Macasieb)
Subject: Kravchuk's Flyin'
Reply-To: stanm@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:59:35 GMT


From Mike Conklin's column in the _Chicago Tribune_ today:

Let's hope the Blackhawks' Igor Kravchuk belongs to an airline mileage
club. Kravchuk arrived here from Moscow and, after less than a day in Chicago, 
flew to London for the team's weekend exhibitions with Montreal. Why didn't
Kravchuk fly directly to London from Moscow? Rules required him to take a
physical before he could participate in any games.

******************************************************************************
--Stan Macasieb (stanm@comm.mot.com)              | Rebound to Chelios, he
--Motorola, Land Mobile Products Sector           | takes it up. To Kravchuk
--Schaumburg, IL (just another suburb of Chicago) | on the right side. He
--------------------------------------------------| looks to Matteau...No, he
~~The opinion expressed in this post is not       | fires from the blue line.
~~necessarily those of this corporation.          | HE SCOOORES! Igor Kravchuk
~~Copyright 1992, all rights reserved.            | blast one past a diving Roy!
******************************************************************************
From: jpc@philabs.philips.com (John P. Curcio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Weekend scores mailing list update
Date: 7 Sep 92 16:24:01 GMT
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff Manor, NY.



To those of whom don't know, I keep the weekend game summary mailing
list.  If you want to get put on it, please send me mail with your
address and I will add you to the list.

This is a list of the addresses to which my system had trouble mailing
to.  If you still want to be on the list, please send me a corrected
address (and/or path).

yang@eeserv.ee.umanitoba.ca
uicsrd.csrd.uiuc.edu!gornish
MICBRIAN@ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu
wpi.wpi.com!patchman
uunet!cgi.com!pople@uunet.UU.NET
maheralie@sfu.ca


These addresses all have the uunet!att!..... format.  I will change it
to see if the addresses will work..  If you are on this list and don't
recieve mail within a couple of days, let me know....

uunet!att!suc!macss!sinhaa
uunet!att!cs.sfu.ca!fass
uunet!att!gene.com!marriot
uunet!att!tkk.tele.fin!timo
uunet!att!MPS.OHIO-STATE.EDU!KOLNICKI
uunet!att!ubvmsc.cc.buffalo.edu!V113L9Z5
uunet!att!drutx!glb

I will be on vacation for a couple of weeks, so requests might be
unanswered for a while (don't worry-- I'll be back before the season
starts!!).

Thanks!

-JPC

-- 
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
John P. Curcio                  Go Bruins!                 Philips Laboratories
jpc@philabs.philips.com                                    345 Scarborough Road
(914) 945-6442                                       Briarcliff Manor, NY 10510
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From: claudius@leland.stanford.edu (Nelson Lu)
Subject: SHARKS TV Schedule
Originator: claudius@leland.Stanford.EDU
Organization: DSG, Stanford University
Distribution: ba
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 00:13:39 GMT

Thanks to Dominic Scamporrino (dominic@scd.hp.com), here is the Sharks' TV
schedule, split between KICU/36, KGO/7, and SportsChannel Pacific.
 
                  SHARKS TV SCHEDULE ANNOUNCED
                  55 Live Telecasts in 1992-93
 
 
Action 36 will air 19 Sharks road games, along with
6 games from the Cow Palace.
 
             ACTION 36 Schedule
Date		Game			Time
10/ 8		Winnipeg		7:30
10/13		@ Los Angeles		7:30
10/21		@ Montreal		4:30
10/23		@ Buffalo		4:30
10/26		@ St. Louis		5:30
10/28		@ Detroit		4:30
10/30		@ Tampa Bay		4:30
11/ 1		@ Chicago		5:30
11/ 8		Los Angeles		7:30
11/28		@ Minnesota		5:00
12/10		Quebec			7:30
12/18		@ Vancouver		7:30
12/21		@ Winnipeg		5:30
12/23		@ Edmonton		6:30
 1/18		@ Boston		10:30 a.m.
 1/21		@ Hartford		4:30
 1/29		Chicago			7:30
 2/27		@ Calgary		5:00
 2/28		@ Edmonton		5:00
 3/ 9		@ Minnesota		5:00
 3/21		@ Washington		10:30 a.m.
 3/23		@ Pittsburgh		4:30
 3/29		@ New Jersey		4:30
 4/ 4		Calgary			7:30
4/10		Los Angeles		7:30
 
 
SPORTSCHANNEL
   Twenty-three of the sportsChannel's 25-game Sharks
schedule will be home contests, preceded by a 30-minute
pre-game show "Sharks Talk".
 
             SportsChannel Schedule
Date		Game			Time
10/10		Detroit			7:30
10/15		Boston			7:30
10/17		Calgary			7:30
11/ 5		Buffalo			7:30
11/17		Los Angeles		7:30
11/19		Toronto			7:30
11/21		Chicago			7:30
12/ 1		Edmonton		7:30
12/ 3		Hartford		7:30
12/26		Los Angeles		7:30
12/30		Philadelphia		7:30
 1/ 5		Montreal		7:30
 1/30		Calgary			7:30
 2/ 1		Tampa Bay		7:30
 2/ 3		Minnesota		7:30
 2/16		Washington		7:30
 2/20		NY Rangers		7:30
 2/23		Calgary			7:30
 2/25		Toronto			7:30
 3/ 7		Edmonton		7:30
 3/14		Detroit			1:30
 3/19		@ NY Rangers		4:30
 3/25		@ Philadelphia		4:30
 4/ 1		Winnipeg		7:30
 
 
KGO-TV 7
KGO is an ABC Network-owened and operated station.
Channel 7 makes its Sharks debut with five weekend telecasts.
 
            KGO-TV 7  Schedule
Date		Game			Time
10/24		@ Toronto		5:00
12/ 5		Pittsburgh		4:30
 1/10		@ Ottawa		11:30 a.m.
 1/23		@ Tampa Bay		7:30
 4/ 3		Calgary			1:30
 
Please check your local listings for time changes and additional games.
(Yes additional games!)

===============================================================================
GO LOS ANGELES KINGS!  Go for Next Year! :-(
GO SAN JOSE SHARKS!  Ray Whitney for Calder!  Jeff Hackett for Vezina!
	Pat Falloon for Hart! :-) Neil Wilkinson for Norris!  ('92-'93)
===============================================================================
Nelson Lu (claudius@leland.stanford.edu)
rec.sport.hockey contact for the San Jose Sharks
From: jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu (James J. Murawski)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: Announcing the Sixth Annual USENET Hockey Draft
Date: 11 Sep 92 15:06:15 GMT
	<1992Sep10.175011.2686@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca>
Organization: Administrative Systems, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


On 10-Sep-92 in Re: Announcing the Sixth An..
user Gerald Olchowy@alchemy.c writes:
>>This (lengthy) posting describes the draft and lists the rules.  Past
>>players may want to skip the introduction and go down to the list of rules.
>>I haven't changed them very much from last year, but you might want to
>>refresh your memory.  (The only changes are the change to 84 games from 80
>>and a minimum price increase to 60.0 from 50.0.)
> 
>Andrew, why are you moving the minimum price...this will make things
>more boring...please keep it at 50, or even better lower it to 45 or
>40, which would really make things exciting.  By raising it to 60
>for only a 4 game increase, you are taking a lot of players out of
>play...and thus make skill in player-picking less important.

I second Gerald's motion.  Please don't raise the price to 60.  That takes
too many players out of the "competition".  50 is fine with me.

====================================================================
    Jim Murawski
    Sr. Data Base Analyst               (412) 268-2650  [office]
    Administrative Systems              (412) 268-6868  [fax]
    Carnegie Mellon University          jjm+@andrew.cmu.edu
    4910 Forbes Avenue                  Office: UCC 155
    Pittsburgh, PA 15213-3890
From: Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: BOSTON TRADE: Hodge & Hervey Traded
Date: 5 Sep 92 03:58:50 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Boston Bruins traded KEN HODGE (C) and MATT HERVEY (D) to the TAMPA BAY
LIGHTNING for DARREN KIMBLE (D).

DARREN KIMBLE is considered a high-scoring defenceman. Who did he play for
last season? Could someone tell me more about him?

Deja vu? Didn't Phil Esposito once convince the New York Rangers to acquire
Ken Hodge, Sr. from Boston? Now, he does the same with Ken Hodge, Jr.


Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: ESPN Followup
Summary: I'd follow 'em if I could stay awake long enough...
Organization: Rice University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 16:25:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.154303.3804@cs.rochester.edu> hoebel@cs.rochester.edu (Lou Hoebel) writes:
>In article <Bu19tt.Bwp@rice.edu> patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L. Humphrey) writes:
>>In article <3SEP199211415616@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov>, bimson@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (GREG) writes:
>>>In article <1992Sep3.122302.27548@cs.rochester.edu>, hoebel@cs.rochester.edu (Lou Hoebel) writes...
>>>>In article <Sep03.040044.58615@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> mmb@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Michael Burger) writes:
>>>>>Some details:
>>     +1 713 528-3626 at Rice. 776-1541 at home. 667-6554 at Palace Lanes. 
>>
>>                    I've fallen -- and I can't reach my beer!
>its nice of you to follow up with all that history. Much appreciated.
>Now, let me see if I can reach your beer for you....

I appreciate that -- and after getting about two hours' sleep last night,
it's a good bet I'm going to be challenged by reaching for the beer...but
only up to that first one.  :_)

-- 
Patrick L. Humphrey  (patrick@is.rice.edu)  Rice Networking & Computing Systems
     +1 713 528-3626 at Rice. 776-1541 at home. 667-6554 at Palace Lanes. 
                     Support the Second Republic of Texas!
               (If at first you don't secede, try, try again...)   
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From: smithw@col.hp.com (Walter Smith)
Subject: Re: USENET Hockey Draft - Proposed Rule Change
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:25:56 GMT
Organization: Colorado Springs IT Center

andrew@idacom.hp.com (Andrew Scott) writes:
> I wanted to increase it from 50 for two reasons:
> 1) the longer schedule put more players over the minimum
> 2) I had to update ~220 players each week last year
> 
> I didn't want to update hundreds of players each week.  I figured that with
> 121 players of more than 60.0, many players close enough that they would be
> picked, and some strong rookies, that there would end up with about 180
> players in the database, which is more manageable for me.
> 
Personally, I'd like to see the minimum price be 30-40.  The more players
are eligible, the more skill involved in maintaining a team.  Drop the
price to 30, and you can look for low-scoring players who are
doing moderately well, to aid your team.  

BUT, that means a lot more work for Andrew in maintaining the players
database.  Only he can decide how much work he can do on it, and thus
on the minimum price...

Walter Smith
smithw@cs.itc.hp.com
From: migod@turing.toronto.edu (Mike Godfrey)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Major Free Agent Signing by Leafs
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:39:06 GMT
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto


The Leafs announced that they have signed free agent Bob McGill, who was
released by Tampa recently.  They're going to give him ~$350K for a one
year deal.

Major free agent?  Well, if you're a Leaf fan ...

-- 
Mike Godfrey	          "I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty.
Dept of Comp Sci, UofT     I will not expose the ignorance of the faculty."
migod@turing.toronto.edu			   -- The Simpsons
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From: yootenai@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Tim Millikan)
Subject: NHL news for Australia
Organization: Monash University General Access Unix
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:28:28 GMT
From: 832989@SKUL.USASK.CA (Glenn Chin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
Subject: Re: FLYERS training camp roster
Date: 10 Sep 92 18:24:25 GMT

From: seth@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (peter.r.clark..jr)
>The Philadelphia FLYERS training camp roster:
>
>Forwards	HT    WT   DOB       91-92 club(s)	GP  PTS PIM
>Dave Brown	6-5   205  10/12/62  FLYERS		70   6   81 (that's it?)
>	:	:
>Clayton Norris	6-2   205  3/8/72    Medicine Hat	69  65  250

Mr. Norris (no relation to Chuck, I'm sure) was considered the toughest player
in the WHL East in a poll of WHL East coaches (yes, Randy, even ahead of Rhett
Trombley!).  I guess Brown will face a...fight...for his position on the Flyers.

Glenn
Newsgroups: rec.sport.hockey
From: jca2@cec1.wustl.edu (Joseph Charles Achkar)
Subject: Re: BOSTON TRADE: Hodge & Hervey Traded
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 07:39:59 GMT

In article <14854@mindlink.bc.ca> Gordon_Wong@mindlink.bc.ca (Gordon Wong) writes:
>Boston Bruins traded KEN HODGE (C) and MATT HERVEY (D) to the TAMPA BAY
>LIGHTNING for DARREN KIMBLE (D).
>
>DARREN KIMBLE is considered a high-scoring defenceman. Who did he play for
>last season? Could someone tell me more about him?
>
  Darin Kimble is a Right Winger who played last season for the St. Louis
Blues. He didn't see much action last season and played the role of an
"enforcer" for the most part. 

Joe.
Contact for the Blues.

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