HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com (Dillon Pyron)
Subject: Re: COZUMEL
Reply-To: pyron@skndiv.dseg.ti.com
Organization: TI/DSEG VAX Support
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 14:01:43 GMT


In article <1992Apr14.151451.4759@meteor.wisc.edu>, rbrbrn@meteor.wisc.edu (Rob Holmes) writes:
>
>I am currently planning on honeymooning in Cozumel in June. Does anyone know of
>any CO beaches there?  Any other information  on Cozumel would also be nice.
>
>Thanx in advance,
>
>---
>-
>-THE ROBBER BARON
>---THE ROBBER BARON   
>
Some experience from multiple trips to CZM.  There are no nude beaches.  The
Mexican government is as Puritanical as a group of Catholics can be (no offense
to Catholics).  That said, the eastern side (open ocean, away from town) has
miles of deserted beaches.  Most are a little rocky, and the surf is very
rough, having a 1000+ mile fetch.

Beware that these beaches are occasionally patrolled by the Federales.  They
will sometimes "fine" you on the spot, the amount varies.  Worse are the Mexico
City toughs (all rich city kids) who fly in for the weekend and rough up
tourists for fun.

Your best bet, then, may be the north end of San Miguel.  Most of the hotels
there cater to Europeans, and nudity is sometimes OK.  Just don't make any
plans on it.

If you are a diver, the diving is great, ignore the divemaster IF you are
experienced.  If you eat lunch at one of the beaches, you can usually wander
off a bit for some full exposure sun.

Just my opinion.
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Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
Subject: Stanford swim team t-shirts
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 06:05:23 GMT


Maybe one of you Stanford alumni can splain this to me.

I watched the NCAA swimming & diving meet today on
CBS sports, and Stanford was (unfortunately) mopping
up the pool deck with the other teams. I don't think
they lost one match.

Anyhow, when the camera zoomed in on their (all too frequent)
victory celebrations, I noticed that the backs of their
t-shirts had a graphic of a classical nude reclining
with the slogan reading "Suit on head" or something
close.

I found this interesting, and indeed topical to rec.nude
(imagine that!).

Does this imply that they train with their suits on
their heads? Or that their head caps feel like swimsuits?
Or what?

p.s. Actually, I am suprised the church lady hasn't
gotten them to remove the graphic from the backs of
the shirts!!

-- 

bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler)
NCN Hotline = 703.241.BARE    you know, the clothes-optional king in D.C.
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: quan@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Tony Quan)
Subject: Re: Stanford swim team t-shirts
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 16:18:40 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.060523.18395@access.digex.com> bote@access.digex.com (John Boteler) writes:
>
>Maybe one of you Stanford alumni can splain this to me.
>
>I watched the NCAA swimming & diving meet today on
>CBS sports, and Stanford was (unfortunately) mopping
>up the pool deck with the other teams. I don't think
>they lost one match.
>
>Anyhow, when the camera zoomed in on their (all too frequent)
>victory celebrations, I noticed that the backs of their
>t-shirts had a graphic of a classical nude reclining
>with the slogan reading "Suit on head" or something
>close.

I'm on campus and I haven't seen this shirt.  There is a shirt
showing someone's backside exposed to the sun.  It says
"Study naked" on the back.  That shirt would be appropriate
for this newsgroup, yes?

And why is it bad that Stanford won?

--Tony


Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: marc@octel.com (Marc Lewert)
Subject: Re: nudist politicians
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 20:27:35 GMT

In article <4508@verdix.verdix.com> dharma@verdix.com (Manjeri Dharmarajan) writes:
#Hi netters,
#
#  A while back, somebody had asked if there were any politicians who were 
#nudists, and I thought I would share a story I saw on KPTV-Portland last week.
#
#  This was the 12 o'clock news, and they reported a story of a woman named
#Carol Stevens(?), who as a city councillor in Richmond(?), California. To
#supplement her income, she swims nude in a huge fish-bowl in a club called
#"Bimbo's"!
#
#  There were many shots of here swimming underwater, with the 'strategic' parts
#hidden. The interviewed some voters, and most of them were supportive. One
#woman commented that if she had a body like that in her 40's, she'd display
#it, too. Others said it was none of their business what a councillor did with
#her free time. One man (I think he was a reverend) disagreed, saying he would
#try to recall her.
#
#  The report ended with the anchors tut-tutting, saying "Only in California",
#and "Thank God we are not like that in Oregon" :-(
#
#	Dharma

I am one of those that says "so what, what she does on her own time, as long
as it is not against the law, is none of my business.  And I would also say
that some things that are against the law should not be, they serve no useful
purpose.

Assuming she is a council member (an early report indicated she was married
to a council member), this should have come out before she was elected.  She
has been doing this for years, according to the reports I have seen.  If she
is not a council member, it is no one's business but theirs.

Some areas are more tollerant of differences in lifestyle than others, just
like every other state.  I personally prefer the tollerance, and feel sad
that the country (not just the state) are moving back towards a more
conservative attitude (where conservative means less tollerance for 
differences, and primarily acceptance of the behaviour approved my the majority
religeous groups in this country, no flames please).

The idea that it is not "correct behaviour" for some one because is does not
match your beliefs and should be thrown out of their job is one of those
attitudes that bothers me a great deal.  It does so, because most people do
not see that it is very easy for the same approach to be used against them.

Sorry for the misspellings.

	marc
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From: lib@cbnews.cb.att.com (Lib)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: CO Recreation in MA
Date: 15 Apr 92 11:59:52 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <1992Apr15.072919.16074@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bi045@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (John A. Purbrick) writes:
>
>In a previous article, kwatsi@athena.mit.edu (Atomic Playboy) asks 
>about CO areas within 50-100 miles of the Boston area?
>
>The Puritans live! There's not much.
>
>What the WG will tell you is that the nearest spot is the "Pepperell Sandbars".
>I'd never heard of this place (I'm hoping to check it out soon); Pepperell is
>about 30 miles northwest of Boston.
>
>You can usually get away with discreet bareness at Plum Island (entrance is
>in Newburyport) but they close the beach for most of the summer so seabirds 
>can mate in privacy.

There's also Penzance Road in Rockport and Castle Rock in Marblehead.
Not organized areas but both places I've seen people nude/topless.
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: elogan@dbaix.oc.com (Ernie Logan)
Subject: Re: nudist politicians
Organization: OpenConnect Systems
Distribution: na
Date:  9 Apr 92 17:52:47 GMT

middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager) writes:

>In article <> dharma@verdix.com (Manjeri Dharmarajan) writes:
>>  This was the 12 o'clock news, and they reported a story of a woman named
>>Carol Stevens(?), who as a city councillor in Richmond(?), California. To
>>supplement her income, she swims nude in a huge fish-bowl in a club called
>>"Bimbo's"!
>>
>>  The report ended with the anchors tut-tutting, saying "Only in California",
>>and "Thank God we are not like that in Oregon" :-(

>A long time ago (10-15 years or more) there was a woman running for Lt Gov
>here in Calif. on the Libertarian ticket.  She had been a cop and a hooker
>and her campaign poster was pretty close to nude.  She didn't win (darn it).

>If this stuff only happens in Ca. I feel sorry for the rest of you.  On the
>other hand, it gives us an excuse.  When travelling on business I can act/be
>weird and people just say "its o.k., he's from California".

>-- 
>	Thomas Earl Middleton
>	middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu
>	aka Happy Bare

There is a fellow in Texas running for (I think) US Represenative from the
Austin area. He is one of my fellow South West Sunbathing Association Directors.
He too is running on the Libertarian ticket. I'm not in Austin, so I don't
guess I'll have the option of voting for him here in Dallas.

A large part of his platform is "management of CO areas" in public parks, etc.

His name is Terry Blum.

I hope that anyone in the area who can vote for him will.
If I see his name on the ballot here, I know I will. In other words, if it's
a statewide as opposed to regional office. :)
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From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: nudist politicians
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:35:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.s0oj5INNd8f
Distribution: na
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu

In article <> dharma@verdix.com (Manjeri Dharmarajan) writes:
>  This was the 12 o'clock news, and they reported a story of a woman named
>Carol Stevens(?), who as a city councillor in Richmond(?), California. To
>supplement her income, she swims nude in a huge fish-bowl in a club called
>"Bimbo's"!
>
>  The report ended with the anchors tut-tutting, saying "Only in California",
>and "Thank God we are not like that in Oregon" :-(

A long time ago (10-15 years or more) there was a woman running for Lt Gov
here in Calif. on the Libertarian ticket.  She had been a cop and a hooker
and her campaign poster was pretty close to nude.  She didn't win (darn it).

If this stuff only happens in Ca. I feel sorry for the rest of you.  On the
other hand, it gives us an excuse.  When travelling on business I can act/be
weird and people just say "its o.k., he's from California".

-- 
	Thomas Earl Middleton
	middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu
	aka Happy Bare
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: bs24@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Bruce Sarte)
Subject: Info Request for CO at Sandy Hook ??
Reply-To: bs24@cunixf.cc.columbia.edu (Bruce Sarte)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 11:49:05 GMT




	I have read here quite a while ago about the CO beach
	at Sandy Hook State Park.  Can anyone out there give
	directions on how to get there.  I know how to get to
	Sandy Hook, but not where the CO beach is at.
From: rsopicki@pro-amber.cts.com (System Administrator)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: San Diego Gatherings
Date: 11 Apr 92 23:16:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: crash.1992Apr11.231635.3386
Organization: Crash TimeSharing, El Cajon, CA

Anyone have any info on San Diego gatherings/events?
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Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: kwatsi@athena.mit.edu (Atomic Playboy)
Subject: CO Recreation in MA
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:08:22 GMT

Hello,

I'm new to this newsgroup, and I thought I'd ask a question.  As one can guess, I'm an M.I.T. student origianally from Georgia.  Whenever I was at home I would usually hang around the house or in my pool in the nude whenever it got warm.  It's something I've grown quite used to.  Well, it's been freezing up here for the last several months, but now it's starting to warm up a bit.  I'm finding that wearing clothes all the time is about to make me lose my mind.  Does anyone know of any CO Beaches, Parks or a







nything within 50-100 miles of the Boston area?  I'd be very gratefull for any information anyone has.  Thanx.  :-)


--->Kwatsi

-- 

            Atomic Playboy

"They say we're all born angels, but it's a lie."
From: dreblow@vax.muskingum.edu (Lewis M. Dreblow)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Naturist Society
Date: 17 Apr 92 07:23:48 -0600
Organization: Muskingum College

In article <1457200001@igc.org>, naturist@igc.org (Pat O'Brien) writes:
> 
> Hi All,
> 	This is The Naturist Society's premiere on this board. It really looks 
> great! I am Pat O'Brien, director of publications for TNS and a board member
...

Horray, TNS finally made it.  A hearty welcome from one regular reader and
somewhat irregular poster.  How about starting off with information about
the upcoming Eastern and Western Naturist gatherings.  While schetchy info
has already been posted here, real details are still lacking.

I don't suppose we'll ever see the ASA here :-)

Later, Lewis.
[let.yourself.be.free]
From: alan@unisql.UUCP (Alan Weiss)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Ugly fat people
Date: 10 Apr 92 20:21:54 GMT
Reply-To: alan@unisql.UUCP (Alan Weiss)
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

>	Isn't this just like saying "Oh, that person wears old clothes.  That's
>ugly and they're just too lazy to take care of their appearance." or "that
>person drives an old rusty car..." ?  The way I look is natural for me...

Exactly.  Couldn't agree more.  I cannot tell you how sick and tired
I am at having people judged by appearance.  I don't know if it is a
by-product of the television age, but it seems to me that this sort
of packaging-fetish is getting worse.  Or, maybe as I grow older
and get more sedentary I just catch more of the flack ... 

People concerned with packaging are as superficial as it sounds.

>	Isn't it true that in many cultures being overweight was 
>considered beautiful, and a sign of health and prosperity?  Since the
>common folk were always hungry and sick they were thin and _ugly_ ...

Yep.  And, the problem is more acute for women, IMHO.  My wife Jane
is not slim -- she's, oh, I dunno, lets slap a label on her --
a mesomorph.  Yeah, good term.  In fact, after three kids and
into her third decade, she is constantly fighting the battle of
the bulge.  And I can't TELL you how many times I've heard her
complain about how her body looks.  Know what I say?  "It *feels*
great, honey."

Does she want to go to a nude beach?  Well, she *has* -- for me,
mostly (love is like that).  But, she was very self-conscious.
Didn't enjoy the experience as much as she could have.

>	Hmmmm...  I'm 20 pounds overwieght.  I'll bet $100.00 that 
>I can take you 2 falls out of 3 in a wrestling match...  What's 
>"physically fit" ?  I don't want to be a marathon runner, you know...

Confirmation:  he can.

>>I love going to a gathering and seeing folks playing tennis or swimming
>>with well toned(and tanned:-) bodies.  Whether they are 16 or 60, it 

Grow up.  You have an imbalance in your senses.  You concentrate
on the visual too much.

>>Gotta run.  Blue Skies!

Gee, what a cute saying.  About as meaningful as air, too.


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I speak only for myself.  Who would *want* these thoughts?
From: Lyle_Seaman@transarc.com
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Women more modest?
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:57:24 GMT
Organization: Mail to News Gateway

mack@jasmin.zko.dec.com (Ralph Mack) writes: 
> Curiously, there are some simple ways in which people express their
> non-sexual affection for one another physically that nudists, at
> least in New England, seldom do, even if they know each other very
> well. For instance, we seldom ever hug when nude. We seldom pack
> in together but tend to disperse like a gas to fill the space.
> (Check this out next time you visit the sauna!)  We seem to avoid
> skin even casually brushing skin. Nudity somehow seems to preclude
> all of those warm-fuzzy things that are a part of belonging to one
> another.  

My experiences (in New England, even) have been somewhat different.
Newsgroups: rec.nude
From: khooker@vms.macc.wisc.edu
Subject: Pools, Dirt
Organization:  University of Wisconsin-Madison	
Distribution:  usa
Date:  7 APR 92 12:14:14    

As someone who had to clean and maintain a backyard pool for 10 years,
I can testify that suits bring in lots of lint, clothing fibers, and dirt-
human as well as environmental.  Most public pools "require" showers before
getting in - well, a lot of body oils, trapped dirt, etc. comes in the pool
under the bathing suit where it escapes upon entry into the pool.  Nude bathers
who shower before entry enjoy the cleanest water around.  Check with health
inspectors who sample water from nudist club pools vs. other public pools -
you'll hear the same story.

Apologies to nettiquette, however mail to Bote@access.digex.com bounces from
my DNS.  Today I have despatched a 3 page letter to the Naturist Society in
Oshkosh identifying local, regional and commercial means of accessing Usenet,
starting from their local University of Wisconsin-Oshkosh through World.com.
I enclosed another 20+ page containing the latest FAQ (many thanks to Steve
Pierce-attaboy!), the Usenet chapter from Zen and the art of the Internet, and 
other "stuff" to help them figure out the cheapest method to get to Usenet. 
This is in response to Botelier's request of mid-March to get the Naturist
Society access to Usenet.  I'm curious, Ernie Logan, if you're listening - 
should I send a duplicate package to the ASA for equal time?  :-)

For the poster asking for the Naturist Society, call 414/426-5009. That's
their "merchandise" line, you can use your plastic to get a World Guide and
lots of other Naturist goodies at that number.  

Kent Hooker
Internet: pkh@den.adp.wisc.edu
Bitnet: khooker@wiscmacc.bitnet
From: jamison@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU (Jamie Gulden)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: Survey, Info, Etc.
Date: 13 Apr 92 19:36:44 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Fort Collins, CO  80523

In article <1992Apr13.023957.24360@rtfm.mlb.fl.us> steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us
(Steve Pierce) writes:
>
>Rob Henry suggested it is time for a topic change.  May I suggest a few:
>  a) Favorite beach/spring/resort (all of the CO kind, of course :-)
>  b) First CO experience (to help the newbies)
>  c) Informing friends/family about being a nudist/naturist.
>
>Steve Pierce             Palm Bay
>steve@rtfm.mlb.fl.us     Florida

   I definately agree that (c) is sometimes tough to deal with.  Most
of my friends have no idea of my "other life" :).  On occasion it has
seemed relevant to the conversation but it is always uncomfortable to
bring up such things.  Especially with MOS, you don't want to seem
like your comming on to the person.

Don't bother with the "if they were true friends" stuff, that's not the
point.  It just would be nice if you could talk about it more openly as
well as encourage others, not to mention meet others who feel the same.

Meeting others who also enjoy CO activies is rather difficult if there
are no existing groups or organizations in the area, or you don't hear
about them.  I've been looking for a good T-shirt (hopefully humorous)
that would hint of my preference for CO living.

I heard it was over 70 degrees yesterday and it is supposed to reach a
high of 77 degrees today.  Too bad I don't have a notebook computer!

Well, gotta get back to work, Jamie.

PS.  Anybody else in Ft. Collins, CO reading this besides Jon?
You would think that if any place ^^ would be the place to be :)
From: glenm@bnr.ca (Glen Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Re: A "common" request?
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:24:10 GMT
Reply-To: glenm@bnr.ca
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.

In article <1992Apr6.191114.859@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>, magic@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
|> i and my SO would like any and all information about CO sites..
|> be it camping, beaches.. whatever.. :)

What, here? 8-)

This is a rather large topic. There are several books that cover it in
only the most cursory way. 

There is CO camping, beaches, hiking, rafting, skydiving, etc. etc.
These things occur all over. Could you be a little more specific,
perhaps saying where you are interested in, etc?

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Phone : (613) 763-7299   Fax: (613) 763-2626             Internet: glenm@bnr.ca
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From: middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu (Tom Middleton ; System Manager)
Newsgroups: rec.nude
Subject: Beaches FAQ
Date: 9 Apr 92 06:41:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: network.s0otvINNda6
Organization: Institute for NonLinear Science, UCSD
NNTP-Posting-Host: poincare.ucsd.edu

In article <> mbb@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (martin.brilliant) writes:
>It's repost time.  Maybe this belongs in the FAQ list.
>
>Enter Sandy Hook from  <deleted directions>

Perhaps a separate "Nude Beaches and Resorts FAQ" is in order.  It should
be short but could be used as a starters list.  Sandy Hook, Blacks Beach,
and Wreck Beach should all be on it.  Perhaps a popular Florida beach too.

Any thoughts on this?

-- 
	Thomas Earl Middleton
	middleto@poincare.ucsd.edu
	aka Happy Bare
Newsgroups: rec.nude