HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 13:28:22 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <1992Sep12.123111.948@access.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
>
>Humans, being mildly polygynous as evidenced by sexual dimorphism, are
>going to exhibit male competition for females.  This does not have to
>mean that males will fight.  Competition can take the form of elaborate
>displays to attract the interest of females.  This is what keeps Porsche
>dealers in business.

Hmmmm.....what about the females who buy Porsches?
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

IRWTFM -- and that ain't fun
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: aahz@netcom.com (Mean Green Dancing Machine)
Subject: Re: "try becoming obsessed with..."
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 02:39:40 GMT
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <1992Sep15.190119.2065@uwm.edu> markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
>>really should try contra dancing.
>
>Okay.  Thanks for the advice Liz.
>However, actually I prefer the more energetic type of dance.

???  I guess  you've never tried contra then.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

IRWTFM -- and that ain't fun
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: kevin@clsi.COM (Kevin Cameron)
Subject: Re: soc.singles #64637 - Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Originator: kevin@dubhe
Organization: CAD Language Systems Inc.
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 00:25:24 GMT


> >> Do you think there's something wrong with people who feel that they
> >> (or their lives) are not complete without a (happy) relationship?
> >Do you think there's something right with this?
> 
> It sounds like you are implying that if something is not right, it's
> wrong.  I disagree.  In fact, for this topic, I don't think it's a
> question of right and wrong, but a question of feelings (and how you
> deal with them).

I don't think my life is incomplete because I am not in a relationship, it's
just dull. As a social animal (not a party animal), I find a shared experience
has more value than something I do by myself, and time spent with friends is
better than time spent alone. 


Are people confusing "complete" with "happy"? - I'm not sure what "complete"
means.


Kev.


-- 
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kevin@clsi.com         Tel: (USA) (410) 992 5700 (- 5709) X229
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From: liz@prc.unisys.com (Liz Loquacious)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:07:45 GMT
Followup-To: soc.singles
Organization: Paramax Systems

In article <las9imINN64n@news.bbn.com>, dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:
|> My sweetheart is naturally almost hairless.  He has the most gorgeous legs
|> I've ever seen and you wouldn't believe how nice that smooth skin
|> over muscles feel.  I don't know how I'd feel about men *shaving* -- I 
|> guess I'd think it was an annoying affectation, especially since I don't
|> shave myself -- but since he's hairless naturally, it sure is nice.

Well, in addition to the mess in the sink you get the same, but larger,
mess in the tub!  (Yes, women shave their legs too but we don't leave
a mess in there, perfect creatures that we are. ;-))  And you get to feel 
those nubbies growing back in too!  Never an issue in the relationship; just 
one of those things....

Liz Loquacious
From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Appeal to Net.Wisdom
Date: 12 Sep 92 00:58:05 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <lb25hfINNmus@news.bbn.com> ahsiung@bbn.com (Anita Hsiung) writes:
>What can I say to a man to make him stop bothering me?  

Let him overread this letter...

Dear Anita,

   I am so happy that you said yes.  All the other inmates in my cellblock
are wishing the best in our upcoming marriage.  I have been working out
everyday so I should look my best when I get out the week.  I`m also looking
forward to continuing my career in professional boxing.  I should have a
title shot by the end of the year.  

   By the way, if that little twerp keeps bothering you give Bubba down at
"The Harley Farm" a ring.  You might have to leave him a message since they
share the phone with the local chapter of the Hell's Angels.  I'm sure
Bubba would be happy to take care of that little twerp for you.  If not I'll be
out soon and pay him a visit.  I'm not really the jealous type anymore.  I've
been rehabilitated.  Really.

Till then,

   Your loving fiance,
   Bruno	
>days!  No romantic encounter.  Just him and his friends and I'm
>showing them around town.  He goes home, starts calling me weekly.  I
>disappear for a week, he starts calling me daily.  I get upset at him,
>he stops calling.  That was five months ago.
>
>He just called again.  He's going to be in town next month.  Ugh.  He
>hasn't made any romantic overtures (he's very good about that, I'm not
>sure I could bring a case against him!) and has only said friendly
>things.  He wants to hang out for a few days after business.  Double
>UGH!  A woman _knows_...
>
>I'm not going batty over this.  He's not worth the time.  It's like an
>itch in the back of your knee when you're wearing jeans.  Bothersome.
>What do I say to him??
>
>	-- Anita --
>
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>| Anita Hsiung       | "See how easy life can be?" -- Johnathan Raven     |
>| ahsiung@bbn.com    |                                                    |
>| BBN Canoga Park    | "Someday we'll look back on this moment...and      |
>| California, USA    |  run smack into the car in front of us."  -- Ski   |
>---------------------------------------------------------------------------


-- 
+==========================================================================+
| John Fereira     | Auspex Systems | "Auspex does not share my opinions.  |
| johnf@auspex.com | Santa Clara CA |  So Why am I still working here?"    |
+==========================================================================+
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams)
Subject: Re: Desperation (was Re: Commitment--The C-word?)
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 11:19:45 GMT

In <1992Sep11.224343.10334@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:

>In article <ewillims.716117683@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie
>(Emma Williams) writes:

>>	You're saying you'd like to have an SO who smells like a 
>>freshly cooked pizza all the time? (*GRIN*)

>Now where did I put that description of the perfect woman... :-)


	Apropos of such a description, I heard of a wonderful one
the other day to describe the perfect man. He makes mad passionate 
love to the woman until 3 o'clock in the morning and then turns
into a pizza! (*Laughter*)
 
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: rickk@netmbx.netmbx.de (Rick Kuhlbars)
Subject: Re: What knockers!  Crreak.
Organization: netmbx, Berlin, Germany
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:52:49 GMT

In article <18kf7uINNpap@agate.berkeley.edu> jbecker@ocf.berkeley.edu (Jane Becker) writes:
>In article <1992Sep7.025433.429@peponi.wcc.govt.nz> parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz writes:
>
>Yes, guys do this to me occasionally too (in fact someone did it earlier
>today...).  Although I've never been elbowed hard enough to consider
>it painful, it is really annoying.  It's not the fact that they are
>brushing against me that is bothersome: if a guy is such a loser that
>elbow contact with by tits is a big thrill, then he's welcome to it.
>What irritates me is that these guys do it so "accidentally."  Come on!
>Who do you think you're fooling?  I hate that kind of pretense.  I think 
>I'd almost prefer they just plant a hand on my breast and squeeze...
>it would undoubtably be more enjoyable for the both of us... of course

I'm don't consider myself an elbow brusher but c'mon. Give us guys
a break.  I don't know how many girls' breast one must squeeze before
you get the answer: "Gee, thank you for being honest.  That was  
enjoyable!"

Not taking this advice,

rick

Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode)
Subject: Re: Can we can the suck-up bit?
Keywords: encourage friendship?
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 92 04:17:26 GMT

In article <1992Sep9.031954.18169@samba.oit.unc.edu> Bathsheba.Grossman@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Bathsheba Grossman) writes:
>In article <72095@apple.Apple.COM> stef@Apple.COM (Stef Jones) writes:
>>tlode@nyx.cs.du.edu (trygve lode) writes:
>>>Still, the best compliments are paid in private (now if I can just get
>>>Bathsheba and Stef in private for a few compliments...).
>...
>>I'll come if Sheba does.
>
>A generous suggestion.  How are your Gazongas? perhaps we won't have
>to bother with Tryg at all & could just compliment one another.

Well, if you won't let me practice the art of sincere appreciation upon
you (I have to keep in practice or risk losing my status as 
"silver-tongued devil"), hopefully you'll at least give me a chance to
set up the video cameras.  

>-Sheba 	(And he can find himself a nice li'l corporate Ganymede so we'll
>         all be happy)

What would I want with Ganymede?  He'd probably moon me.

Trygve   (OK, that was bad--but I really didn't planet that way.)
From: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Losers of the world UNITE!!!
Date: 7 Sep 1992 02:05:58 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, jis@panix.com (Jack Szwergold) says:

>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>READ ME READ ME READ ME READ ME READ ME READ ME READ ME READ ME
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
> 
>Hey people.  I've decided to try and start a new thread here, so
>here it goes....
> 
>What do you find that you do differently when you are single as
>compared to when you have an SO?
> 
>Meaning, do you notice certain activities fade away into
>obscurity when a loved one bekons....

you mean like reading soc.singles?

> 
>OR.....
> 
>Do you notice certain activities growing when you have a lot of
>free time on your hands....

you mean like reading soc.singles?

> 
>POST REPLIES IF YOU DARE!
> 
>:)

;-)  (Obligatory at this point)

> 
>Jack
>jis@panix.com
>-----------------------------------------------------------------
>"I don't patronize bunnies..."  Heathers
>-----------------------------------------------------------------

-- 
Just this person's view of netlife.

======> mike palij ::  bh929@cleveland.freenet.edu
From: morton@cali.rtp.dg.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Commitment--The C-word?
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:34:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: dg-rtp.1992Sep5.053446.25693
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

>>I discovered that if I was going to be happy, I'd have to make MYSELF happy
>>by making choices that were right for me, and not try to live according
>>to someone else's script.  That realization changed my life, very much for
>>the better!  :-)

	yeah, but then you miss out on being in other people's scripts,
plus doing the self serving thing gets old too, i think having a personal
agenda that is sufficiently robust that it can be put aside without 
damage is a decent goal.  Easy to say, maybe not so easy to do.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: chemistry / love at first sight : fact or fiction?
From: kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 19:45:05 GMT
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Vancouver Island, CANADA

In article <1992Sep9.142940.10460@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com> smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith) writes:

>In article <1992Sep08.195757.3575@oneb.almanac.bc.ca>, kmcvay@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Ken Mcvay) writes:

>|> That suggests that there are (this seems obvious) simply levels of
>|> attraction/response scenarios, and we select one (on autopilot, if you will)
>|> appropriate to our needs, whether we are aware of them or not.
>> 
>|> On the other hand, the depth of your loneliness may require far more intense
>|> therapy - you may need a lover to help you through this time, and bring you
>|> out of it by giving of her time, heart, and body.
>|> 
>|> I suggest that in many cases the choice may be one you don't consciously
>|> make. I have observed that life often, and imparatively, changes our
>|> perspectives constantly.
>|> 
>|> If your needs bring yo to the point where they are strongly broadcast to
>|> everyone around you, you may find yourself with someone on your arm with
>|> precisely the same needs. Whether she becomes a sex-partner-friend or a
>|> _lover_ may depend more on her needs than yours.

>I agree with basically everything you have said. What does it have to do
>with the Love at First Sight myth? Nothing! Given the scenario you decribe
>above, there is still nothing to indicate that the two people fell in love
>immediately. The "Oh my God I need a woman gee you're beautiful let's go"
>feeling is NOT love! Yes, it's attraction, and yes, it's need, and yes, it
>may be mutual. But until you know more about that person than that in some
>way, they look good to you, you can't honestly call it love.

Sorry - we completely disagree on the meaning and origin of "love" - that
you cannot relate to unconditional and immediate acceptance, coupled with
deep spiritual union under such circumstances does not mean that they do not
occur, or that "love" is not the immediate result.

I submit that knowledge of another's personality, character, etc. is not
remotely relevant to the situation I have described. That knowledge, as it
comes, may well destroy the bond, but it will not necessarily destroy the
_love_.

My experience suggests that your assertions are untrue and unrealistic - it
can and does happen, and it _is_, with no doubt whatsoever, the deepest love
one can experience. It transcends "knowing more" about someone, and, in
fact, makes "knowing" them trivial in comparison.

Let's just agree to disagree.
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: larry@b8.b8.ingr.com (Larry Billings)
Subject: Re: chemistry / love at first sight : fact or fiction?
Organization: Intergraph
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 19:07:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.013404.20651@uwm.edu>, markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes:
> In article <1992Sep10.150248.24772@cs.wisc.edu> rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes:
> >In <ewillims.716050913@unix1.tcd.ie> ewillims@unix1.tcd.ie (Emma Williams) writes:
> >>Well, do you guys feel the same way?  Do you hate it if the woman makes
> >>it too obvious that she can't live without you?  Actually, I'm sure you
> >>probably do...I have heard men complain before about "clingy" women!
> >

I personally, perfer an equal, someone who doesn't mind speaking her mind, or
telling me what she wants (or doesn't want).  Please tell me because I'll
never figure it out on my own!  I don't even mind if she makes the first move,
but I would rather not have them clamp on like a vise.
One case in particular, first date, anytime we were out of the vehicle (I would
have gotten very irate if she had done it while I was driving) she had both 
hands clamped around my right bicep.  During the course of the date, which I
was just tring to get to know her and decide if I wished to continue seeing 
her, she planned out our next three dates, found out where I lived and pointed
out that she would like to live there (UH OH, Exit, stage left) and more.  Had
she waited until I decided that there would be a second date before planning
our life together, I might have continued seeing her.  But, under the 
circumstances I saw only one option: I Bravely ran away!

By the way, there were marks on my arm after I used a pry bar to remove her
hands.

Larry
From: morton@cali.rtp.dg.com
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Lurkers...
Date: 5 Sep 92 05:52:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: dg-rtp.1992Sep5.055227.27136
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.

>I guarantee that no one wants all the lurkers posting. There are
>already too many messages per day. A ten fold increase caused by all
>the lurkers posting would not be helpful.

	Don't feel sorry for the net, it's a machine, it feels nothing,
10x bandwidth is no problem. Plus, if you only want to read letters
from certain people anyway, grab a techno-type and have them build
you a filter...  BUT , if there were no lurkers, the show-offs would
be deprived !! Just think of it !
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: What knockers!  Crreak.
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 22:49:07 GMT

In article <18r6rtINN4ia@skat.usc.edu> tarra@skat.usc.edu (Frat Boy)
writes:
>In article <1992Sep11.214610.9753@fid.morgan.com> sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart) writes:
>>
>>You've just never had your elbows treated properly.  Most people I
>>know have only one erogenous zone, which includes the elbows.
>>
>>Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com

>Gee Seth,
>	With all of your intimate knowledge of the female body and everything
>else for that matter, why don't you start documenting your fabulous life and
>either write a best seller, or for those of us with less exciting lives, maybe
>a weekly magazine.

Well, if knowing that the elbow can be quite erogenous translates (in
your mind) to such "intimate knowledge of the female body", then you
need more information than can fit in a book.  I'd recommend that you
start with a clue.

I've never claimed to know all about everything, I just have a habit
of mostly talking about those things which I do know about.  Of
course, if certain others tried that, they'd be silent (a situation
devoutly to be desired).

And I have no desire to let others live my life vicariously.

>later,

Better yet, never.

>"Chicks dig me because I rarely wear underwear"  
>					Bill Murray 

Is there a point to that quote?  See my earlier comment about a clue.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com
From: un030025@wvnvms.wvnet.edu
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: uh oh...
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:41:31 GMT
Organization: West Virginia Network for Educational Telecomputing

In article <1992Sep12.195903.11141@blaze.cs.jhu.edu>, hymowitz@whatever.cs.jhu.edu (Captain Action Figure (tm)) writes:
> hello all...
> 
> since you folks are the closest i have to family and friends, i'm
> letting you know that i am going on my first date since december.
> i suppose it's a bit late in the game to ask for last-minute advice?
> 
> a friend set us up, and we've spent the last week making very shy and
> tentative phone calls to each other.  finally, she found the nerve to
> come out and say 'look, i'm not doing anything, you're not doing anything,
> let's get togetther and do something.'  so she'll be here about a half-hour
> any minute now, and i'm relaxing the only way i know how - readnewsing.
> 
> oh, p.s.: she has no sisters, and she thinks i'm a nut for asking. :)
> 
> --hymie
> hymowitz@cs.jhu.edu                                         hymie@jhuvms.bitnet
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> I am godlike... except that he's perfect, and I fuck up all the time.
> That would be the only real difference between us.              --Andy Breckman
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Tell you what. I don't think you should have gone on the date! I have had the
worst luck on blind dates. The girls are usually messed up in the head! Hope it
worked out differently for ya.

-ouch!-
From: aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Can you accept criticism ? (was Re: Why lurkers lurk ...)
Date: 9 Sep 92 09:50:20 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

fredw@mks.com (Fred Walter) writes:

[regarding me]
>I've had the 'being talked about' 

	There is only one thing worse than being talked about:
	not being talked about.


	Aaron Turner	aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Lurkers...
From: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:03:03 GMT
Reply-To: parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council, Wgtn, NZ

In article <36896@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu>, dth@reef.cis.ufl.edu (David Hightower) writes:
>Let's see....I've been reading this newsgroup since 1989, and I've
>posted twice (three times, counting this one).  Hmmm....Yup, I'm a
>"Lurker", I guess.
>
>Why do I lurk?  Good question.  A large part of it is that any opinions
>I have have already been aired; all I could do is say "ditto!".  
>
>I suppose I only post when I feel really strongly about something, or
>(as has been the case in the last 2 postings) when I've sought advice or
>opinions.  On that point let me be clear:  this news group, in concert
>with alt.romance, has been invaluable in helping me through some
>difficult times.  I feel kinda guilty about not being able to give
>anything back.
>
>Maybe we should have a "coming out" party for lurkers?
>
>Anyhow, I'll still be lurking, rest assured, and posting from time
>to time.  Stranger things have happened.  ;>

What brought this on?


Did you feel the need to "come out of the closet?"




Oh well ... I'm happy for you if it makes you feel better.



Happy lurking.





- Rachel
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Subject: Re: What knockers!  Crreak.
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 18:36:18 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.060140.4430@leland.Stanford.EDU> richwing@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rich Wingerter) writes:
>I don't understand the psychology.  As my friend DCL used to put it, "breast
>were made for the entertainment of infants, thighs were made for the
>entertainment of men."

Yes, Dr. Freud considered male interest in female breasts to be infantile.
However, ethology gives us a new slant.  Female breasts might be self-mimicry
of the buttocks.  For comparison, consider the gelada, a large, baboon-like
monkey.  Also, consider that the breasts and nipples of human females are
ill-sized and ill-shaped for suckling infants compared to those of chimps,
bonobos, and gorillas.

-- Herb Huston
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sethb@fid.morgan.com (Seth Breidbart)
Subject: Re: What knockers!  Crreak.
Organization: my opinions only
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 21:46:10 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.025433.429@peponi.wcc.govt.nz>
parks_typ@med.wcc.govt.nz (Rachel) writes:

>  The last I heard the elbow was
>not an erogenous zone

You've just never had your elbows treated properly.  Most people I
know have only one erogenous zone, which includes the elbows.

Seth		sethb@fid.morgan.com

Now, who's going to make the obvious stupid comment about the
differences between elbows and other body parts?