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From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Subject: CD and Record prices.
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 09:31:59 GMT

I'm very interested in the following info:

Anyone who's ever been involved in recording and releasing a CD,
indie or major, could you please list the following for any of these
releases?

1) Release name
2) number of tracks
3) total playing time
4) total produced
5) recording cost
6) pressing cost
7) TOTAL cost
8) per unit cost
9) selling price
10) any other relevant/interesting info (release date, record company,
method of launch, promotional costs (?), success of release (number sold
approximately), whatever.

Thanks! Post here in aus.music or, if you can't do that, email me.

Paul

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis)
Subject: Re: Erotica
Reply-To: brent@socs.uts.edu.au
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney
Distribution: aus
Date:  7 Oct 92 00:14:07 GMT

leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy) writes:

 >Heard the new Madonna ("Erotica") today. Quick impression: it's a cross
 >between "Justify My Love" and Public Enemy circa "Night of the Living
 >Baseheads," 

"Justify My Love" was 99% Public Enemy, anyway.

                       Brent.

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Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
From: erik@yarra.pyramid.com.au (Erik Lecis)
Subject: Re: Church concert Melbourne Oct 7th
Followup-To: aus.music
Keywords: church
Organization: Pyramid Technology Corp PL, Melb., Australia
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 03:15:26 GMT

In article <1992Oct8.024524.8059@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, bsmith@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Brian Smith) writes:
> 
> Nothing unusual yet, but hold on to yer black t-shirts, Steve announced that
> this was the LAST TIME they were playing in Melbourne.  This was greeted by a
> stunned silence as the crowd tried to figure out what this meant exactly.   It
> sounded to me like a break-up announcement.  I hope I'm wrong, but there's no

Hmm, The Melbourne concerts have been advertised by JJJ as "your last chance
to see the Church in their current lineup".

A recent interview with Steve (in Aus. Rolling Stone, I think) discussed
the subject of the lineup of the Church, and Steve indicated that he
was totally committed to the group, and would still continue as the Church
"even if he was the only one left".

The concert review in today's Age quotes Steve from wednesday's concert:

"Thanks, this could very well be the last time we play down here ....
So anyway, let's get on with it".

Maybe all will be revealed tonight.

- Erik.
From: brent@socs.uts.edu.au (Disco Inferno Curtis)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Weird rhythms in pop music
Keywords: 7/4
Date: 16 Oct 92 05:35:23 GMT
Reply-To: brent@socs.uts.edu.au
Distribution: aus
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney

Interesting rhythms? Pixies and Kate Bush (Wuthering Hights is, err, odd).

                      Brent.

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: Prices ?
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 04:58:19 GMT


In article <1992Oct12.014128.5131@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, ins141f@aurora.cc.monash.edu.au (Adam Bradley) writes:
|> 
|>   Wasn't there going to be an enquiry into CD prices and the like.  (It may have
|> already been done by the Prices Survalence Authority - sorry about answering
|> my own question !)
|> 
|> When are findings/actual changes due to be implemented ?

The study took place, much noise came from everywhere (artists to record co-s).
From what I remember (others have details) many _recommendations_ were made,
but most were re: parallel imports.  As far as shop prices go, nothing has
changed.  Recommendations are like verbal contracts :-) 
The _average_ seems to be:

Major labels:

CDEP		$5-8
CD album	$28

Indies:

CDEP		$8-12
CD album	$20-28

Imports:

CDEP		$15+
CD album	$30+

Vinyl:

7"		$6
12"		$12-15
LP		$20-25

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So, $6.95 for (ahem) Brian May's CD seems to be reasonable.

brian
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From: 000998s@ace.acadiau.ca (KARL OVE SONNICHSEN)
Newsgroups: aus.music,alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Rigging the Charts
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:34:29 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

In article <pet.718863014@munagin> pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan) writes:
>From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
>Subject: Rigging the Charts
>Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:10:14 GMT
>WHo read that article in the good weekend about how the majors rig the
>charts? It's quite shocking and very convincing. The charts are apparently
>riddled with items which have yet to deserve their position. Of course,
>once an album or single is in the charts, it gains its own momentum by:
>
>1) instantly getting radio and video play (countdown programs)
>2) going onto radio (and video) playlists after top 40 position acquired
>3) mainstream consumers reacting to chart position as well as radio/video
>   exposure will keep the items in the charts.
>
>It seems that, after the introduction of computerized anti-fraud recording
>systems for sales in the US, large discrepancies in the old system were
>exposed. The week that the computers were introduced produced a chart 
>substantially different from the week before. It was found that in actual
>fact, alternative, country, and other non-mainstream artists sold much more
>that they were given credit for in previous charts. IMHO this possibly
>contributed to the massive popularity of alternative bands like RHCP and
>Nirvana. That's just my thought. Prior to the computerized system, these
>bands may have been selling lots of records, but were not accorded the
>chart positions they deserved.
>
>Paul
>
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I'll have to agree with you on this!!

				Karl
From: ben@mlb.dmt.csiro.au (Ben Simons)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Sydney A' Capella Assoc.
Summary: got it!
Date: 16 Oct 92 07:38:07 GMT
Organization: CSIRO Division of Manufacturing Technology, Melbourne, Australia


John Mackin - i lost your email address, and so am posting this to the net.
I appologise to other disinterested parties for "wasting bandwidthz".
Thanks to robin kirkham for the investigative work.

	Sydney a'Capella Association:

		P.O. Box 40, Broadway 2007
		Coordinator, Tony Backhouse 02-660-6850
		Promotions Coordinator, Stewart Davis 02-550-2414

	... thanks to Steven Schaffer, Sydney Philharmonia
	Robin

ben.
From: t9014123@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Brian May's new song - Too much love will kill you
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:25:36 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

In article barrongj@cs.curtin.edu.au (Greg Barron) writes:
> 
> Has this being getting any airplay, does anyone know?
> 
> It's wild!
> 
> 
> Greg

I saw the clip on Rage at about 3am on saturday (or was it sunday),
cool song, cool clip, looks a lot like 'Who Wants To Live Forever'.
Haven't heard it on radio (don't listen to it anymore 8-), but
I think it made top 5 in the UK.

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From: andy@research.canon.oz.au (Andy Newman)
Subject: Re: Denis Tek plays Adelaide
Organization: Canon Information Systems Research Australia
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:51:19 GMT

ayla@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Dey Alexander) writes:
>Pip played with them in Melbourne too, sans beret. I wasn't aware of any
>animosity between Johnny and ROn. What's the story here? Johhny hopped
>up on stage in Melbourne to do backing vocals on Hand of Law.

John hopped up on stage because he organised to whole tour. As for
reasons why Rob (amongst a lot of others) doesn't deal with Kannis I'll
leave that well alone.

>Ron Keeley currently lives in the UK (London?) where he is editor of a 
>(motoring?) magazine.
>

Do you have exact details? Some of his old friends and ex-band members
have not been able to contact him for a few years. They'd be interested.
-- 
Andy Newman (andy@research.canon.oz.au)
"Giving money and power to governments is like giving whiskey and
 car keys to teenage boys" - P.J.O'Rourke
Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc
From: mattd@cltr.uq.oz.au (Matthew Deshon)
Subject: Re: Weird rhythms in pop music
Organization: Centre for Language Teaching and Research, Uni of Queensland, AUSTRALIA.
Distribution: aus
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 06:02:29 GMT

To digress a little:  can anyone tell me the time signature of John Cage's
4'33"?  I can't work it out by listening to the cd...

;-)

matt

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Newsgroups: aus.music
From: brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May)
Subject: Re: a few reviews
Organization: CSIRO DIT (Melb.)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 23:22:01 GMT


In article <3313@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU>, cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:
|> brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
|> : (edited version)
|> : Agreed - saw KS at the Punters Club a few months ago & was most impressed.
|> : STM is another band he's in - 3 piece - upright bass, Kim & a drummer (I 
|> : think).  Do you mean the front room of the Palace or the Esplanade?  I think
|> : you went to the Espy........irrelevant really!
|> :
|> 	quite right (sorry) it was the espy of course.
|> 	what does STM stand for?
|> 	Where are they playing (if at all still)?

I have no idea what it stands for but can find out sometime today...they are
still playing occasional gigs (Melb only methinks) - so check IN*PRESS or Beat
for dates.

brian
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From: leroy@socs.uts.edu.au (Leroy)
Newsgroups: ee.chat,aus.music,cs.general
Subject: Re: The Alternative Music and Politics Club
Date: 15 Oct 92 01:12:10 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.

acc@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (andy chia an chang) writes:

>Me and a few friends are starting a club on campus that's going to be called,
>at this stage, The Alternative Music and Politics Club.  Here is a brief
>guide to the aims of the club and what it will hopefully be able to offer to
>club members :   

>(1) Being alternative is about being away from mainstream, let it be mainstream
>commercial top-40 music or mainstream politics generated by the propaganda of
>mainstream political parties.  We, as university students, are true adults and

Weren't you in the Young Ones?

--- G M Heinrich  ( leroy@socs.uts.edu.au )
House meeting! Under the stairs! Three minutes!
From: leeSJ@elec.uq.oz.au (Simon Lee)
Subject: Re: well fuck you baby...
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Distribution: aus
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 03:29:06 GMT


This has been an interesting thread to follow...

Makes me wonder if the following things has happened:

i.  Jonathan Gifford left his terminal idling and someone
    else has used his account as a weapon to flame.

ii. He's looking for a reaction.

iii.It's all a joke.

iv .He's a complete fuckwit.

Unfortunately, I suspect that it's iv.  Jamie is only providing a 
service so I don't see that as a reason to flame him,
unless poor Johnny has a vendetta against Jamie.

I don't follow the Australian Music charts and I prefer the 
alt.music.alternative newsgroup, but I don't think
Johnny's posting belongs here (or anywhere else for
that matter).

My $0.05 worth :-).

Simon.
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		--Billy Bragg,
From: cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Jazzmasters
Date: 13 Oct 92 07:03:08 GMT
Distribution: aus
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

u882517@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Blos!) writes:
: 
: 	By the way, anyone want to sell a Fender Jaguar (or even a Jazzmaster)?
: Even an indication of what I could expect to pay would be interesting.
: 
: 				Matthew

	I have a friend who occasionly wants to sell his
Jazzmaster for $2000+ (not sure of figure) - but then can never
quite stomache the idea of losing it!
	but that's the kind of price I hear about.

				CE
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From: cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle)
Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Weird rhythms in pop music
Date: 12 Oct 92 04:00:00 GMT
Followup-To: aus.music
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan) writes:
: Just a couple of odd things I've noticed and want to verify.
: 
: 1) RHCP Breaking the Girl. Rather weird rhythm. It seems to be 3/4
: at first, and then changes to 6/8 at the first chorus and stays there
: even when the verse comes back. The 3/4 bar is the same length as the
: 6/8 bar, i.e. not values remain the same, but the accents change.
: 
: 2) Kate Ceberano singing that Superstar song. Is this in 5/4 as I
: seem to count it?
: 
: Paul
:

	they're both in 1/1 arent they?

					CE
From: fisherc@bohra.cpg.oz.au (Craig Fisher)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: An example of chart rigging from the US :-)
Date: 9 Oct 92 06:14:58 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Power Software

In article <1992Oct6.235309.7285@> brian@mel.dit.csiro.au (Brian May) writes:
> are compiled from playlist 'charts' from each CMJ station.  Yes, sales have
> nothing to do with this chart......but sales have little to do with regular
> charts too :-)

Actually, I suspect they (sales) have quite a bit to do with regular
charts. It's just a matter of which is the cause and which is the effect!

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From: richard@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (richard hagen)
Newsgroups: aus.music,aus.wanted
Subject: Wanted: Severed Heads ``Bad Mood Guy'' CD
Date: 16 Oct 92 04:55:25 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Griffith University, Brisbane, Australia.

The subject line says it all. I'll pay a reasonable price for the CD version
of this album. I'll even cop the postage if you're not nearby.

Thanks,

richard

Richard Hagen, Associate Lecturer, C.I.T., Griffith Uni., Nathan, Qld. 4111
Telephone: (07) 875 5382 Fax: (07) 875 5051
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Telephone: (07) 875 5537
From: wcs@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Warren CARTER Smith)
Newsgroups: ee.chat,aus.music,cs.general
Subject: Re: The Alternative Music and Politics Club
Date: 16 Oct 92 00:24:11 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

I guess this serves as a warning..  dont post flammable material
around exam time.
From: cam@syzygy.DIALix.oz.au (Cameron Newham)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Brian May's new song - Too much love will kill you
Distribution: world
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 22:58:51 GMT
Organization: Baldrick Fan Club
Reply-To: cam@syzygy.DIALix.oz.au


In article <barrongj.718445162@marsh> barrongj@cs.curtin.edu.au writes:

 > 
 > 
 > Has this being getting any airplay, does anyone know?
 > 
 > It's wild!
 > 
 > 
 > Greg

I've only heard it once since I came back from hols in the UK.  They seem
to play it every couple of hours there.

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From: a.norrish@trl.oz.au
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: CD PRICES
Date: 14 Oct 92 22:56:30 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Telecom Research Laboratories

In article <1992Oct13.081619.569@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
s1170796@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (DANGERMAN (P. Grant)) writes:
>
>If the prices of CD's are getting you down, just do what I do.  Wait a few
>years when the CD will go down into a $15 or $20 box in your local record
>store and buy the sucker then.

If the prices of CD's are getting you down, just do what I do. Break into a
warehouse and steal 15,000 of them. Anyone interested in some cheap Prince CDs?

Andrew Norrish.

'Winmar Winmar Winmar to Lockett' - TISM
Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc
From: pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan)
Subject: Re: Weird rhythms in pop music
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 04:41:54 GMT

mattd@cltr.uq.oz.au (Matthew Deshon) writes:
>>2) Kate Ceberano singing that Superstar song. Is this in 5/4 as I
>>seem to count it?

>Everything's Alright is in 5/4.

>Couple of others:  "Straight to my Heart" by Sting, off "Nothing Like the
>Sun" is in 7/4.  "Money" by Pink Floyd is in 5/4.

sn't there also a Peter Gabriel song in "So" also 7/4?
Paul

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From: schuller@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Wayne Schuller)
Newsgroups: aus.music
Subject: Re: Beastie Boys
Date: 8 Oct 92 11:55:32 GMT
Distribution: aus
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia

cde@mulka (Colin Entwisle) writes:


>	I know they're not Australian, but they are here
>at present so I thought I could do a quick review of their
>performance at the Palace on Friday night.
>	Energy level was very high - but then Palace crowds would
>probably slam and stage dive to the MSO.
>	They did an almost ideal mix of rap and funky grooves.
>They had instruments (may not seem like a major thing - but anyone
>who has seen an international rap act will appreciate the significance
>of this!).
>	They were brilliant - what they lacked in talent (and that aint
>much - I'm talken compared to prince or someone) they more than made up
>for in attitude.
>	I gotta feelen they did their last melb gig last night -
>but if you've got a chance else where check it out!
>	No doubt about it gig of the year!
>				
one thing: what is the prince comment meant to mean?
I have been a B-Boys fan for many years.ie I am not a:
	1)person who liked Fight for your Right to Party, bought the first 
	album, and then never liked them again until they became trendy now.

	2)Skeg who is in to them cos they are trendy now.

I think that pauls boutiqe was and is there best by far album, and i was at
the show, and i went nutzoid when i heard egg-man!
Back to the prince comment: I went to 2 prince shows and he is much more talented
 and much better the the b-boys, there is no comparison. If you dont like
 Princes music then dont bring it up.
 Yo!

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Newsgroups: aus.music,rec.music.misc,alt.music.alternative
From: mrgreen@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew green)
Subject: Re: Church concert Melbourne Oct 7th
Keywords: church
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Distribution: aus
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:54:17 GMT

bsmith@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Brian Smith) writes:

>Last night (Wed Oct 7th) the Church played in Melbourne.  The theatre was pretty
>full and there is anther show Friday night.
>Here's the set list.
>Aura, Myrrh, Metropolis, Destination, Fly, Shadow Cabinet, NSEW, Sisters, The
>Disillusionist, Grind, Lost, Old Flame, Hotel Womb, Reptile, Pharoah, Chaos and
>Tantalized.

They played again, on Fri, Oct 9th.  Here is the set list..

Aura, Ripple, Myrrh, Metropolis, Destination, Fly, Shadow Cabinet, NSEW, Sisters,
The disillusionist, Grind, Lost, Old Flame, Hotel Womb, Reptile, Pharoah, Choas,
You're still Beautiful, Tantalized..

so we got 2 more songs..  *grin* .. 

the funny thing was, that for You still Beautiful, Peter didn't play!  It was
a strange mix, with Marty doing some guitar..  Steve doing bass as normal..
singing as normal.. except for the norty word..  he let the crowd sing that
line!

>The highpoints (for me) were Grind, Hotel Womb, Sisters and Chaos.  As usual the
>mix was pretty bad and I found that I could hear more detail (ie Anything Peter
>was playing) if I blocked my ears.  The PA system also seemed to not be up to it
>, it kept crackling at some points.

For me, the highpoints were the whole thing.  I couldn't get over how much
*lead* guitar that Marty played on his Rickenbacker 12-string.   Things like, 
NSEW, Aura (end solo was his)..  freaked me out..  I found that Peter was
also a little bit hard to pick out, but the PA was fine.

>Nothing unusual yet, but hold on to yer black t-shirts, Steve announced that
>this was the LAST TIME they were playing in Melbourne.  This was greeted by a
>stunned silence as the crowd tried to figure out what this meant exactly.   It
>sounded to me like a break-up announcement.  I hope I'm wrong, but there's no
>reason why Melbourne specifically would be excluded from future tours, so it's
>looking ominous.

Read "beat" magazine from a few weeks ago - Peter said he was leaving, and 
it was meantioned several times tonight as well.   Bad Deal (tm) IMO.

>Generally, the earlier songs were marked by a lack of the subtlety that you 
>can hear on their albums.  Parts that should have been played in that way were
>just strummed, which was a bit of a disappointment.  It got better later on
>though.  They also missed the second verse of Shadow Cabinet completely.  Marty
>looked surprised when it happened, I think it was the drummer's fault.  
>Overall it was pretty good, but I hope it's better Friday.  I'll post again
>after that.

I found the arrangement generally amazing..  the only thing I missed was the
intro to Hotel Womb..  And I think the drummer nearly stuffed up Shadow Cabinet
again, but the others kept playing, and it was a smooth mistake, if any.

From what I can gather, (I didn't go Wednesday) tonight (morning) was better
than on Wednesday...

..
Newsgroups: aus.music,alt.music.alternative