From: han@anadolu.michigan.com (hasan.b.mutlu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.europe,soc.history
Subject: 'Dandy' Has A Recurring Fantasy That Sees 'Rev. Hartley' Through.
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:29:20 GMT






<1992Jul23.172041.7676@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
gd8f@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Gregory  Dandulakis)

>  OK, we checked for the personal story behind Professor Shaw.

These things come to mind at the time of year when 'Dandies' graduate
to the next stage of revisionism. What shall we give them on these
occasions. Imagination, a shove out and up, a blessing.

>  After that, the credibility of Shaw as objective historian about
>  Turkey "goes for a walk".

The following scholars will gravely examine your 'walk.' And if all that
isn't enough, consider this: Sources are free. Nobody ever complains 
about your picking them. You can have all you can carry away. Some 'Dandy?'

[155] Horizon, Tiflis, November 30, 1914, quoted by Hovannisian, "Road to
Independence," p. 45; FO 2485, 2484/46942, 22083.

[156] Hovannisian, "Road to Independence," pp. 45-47; Bayur, III/1, 
pp. 349-380; W.E.D. Allen and P. Muratoff, "Caucasian Battlefields,"
Cambridge, 1953, pp. 251-277; Ali Ihsan Sabis, "Harb Hahralaram," 2 vols.,
Ankara, 1951, II, 41-160; FO 2146 no. 70404; FO 2485; FO 2484, nos.
46942 and 22083.

[162] Hovannisian, "Road to Independence," p. 56; FOP 2488, nos. 127223 and
58350.

[163] BVA, Meclis-i Vukela Mazbatalari, debates of August 15-17, 1915; 
Babi-i Ali Evrak Odasi, no. 175, 321, "Van Ihtilali ve Katl-i Ami,"
Zilkade 1333/10 September 1915.

[14] Shlomo Rozanes, Korot Hayehudim Beturkiyah Vebeartzot Hakedem:
    Hadorot Haachronim (Jerusalem, 1945), pp.42-44, cited Yitzchak Kerem,
    'The Influence of Anti-Semitism on Jewish Immigration Patterns from
    Greece to the Ottoman Empire in the 19th Century', pp.2, 14.

[15] Maxime Raybaud, Memoires sur la Grece, pour servir a l'histoire de la
    Guerre de l'Independence (2 Vols, Paris, 1824), pp.5-19; Galante,
    Turcs et Juifs (Istanbul, 1932), 76-77.

[16] Rev. T.S. Hughes, Travels in Greece and Albania (2nd edn, 2 vols,
    London, 1830), II, 194-95.

[17] Rev. John Hartley, Researches in Greece and the Levant (London, 1831),
    207, quoted in Yitzchak Kerem, 'Jewish Immigration Patterns from Greece
    to the Ottoman Empire in the Nineteenth Century', published paper
    delivered at the Comite International d'Etudes Pre-Ottomanes et Ottomanes,
    VIII Symposium, 'Decision-Making and the Transmission of Authority
    in the Turkic System', University of Minnesota, Minneapolis,
    Minnesota, 14-19 August 1988, p.4.

[18] Hartley, ibid., pp.206-7, William Martin Leake, Travels in Northern
    Greece (2 Vols, London, 1835) II, 231-32, 609; Errikos Sevillas,
    Athens-Auschwitz (Athens, 1983), p.ix, quoted in Kerem, ibid., p.14.

[19] Documented in Kerem, ibid., pp.14-19. Pearl L. Preschel, The Jews
    of Corfu (Greece), Unpublished Ph.D. dissertation, New York University,
    1984. Goerge Finlay, History of the Greek Revolution (London, 1861),
    172, 179-86; See also 'Greece', EJ VII, 876-77.

[20] Yoannina Vasdraveli, Ee Thessaloniki: Kata Ton Agona Tis Aneksantizias
    (Salonica, 1946), pp.19-35; Yitzchak Kerem, An Outline of the History
    of Jews of Selonica (in Hebrew) (Museum of Kibbutz Lahoma, Getaot, 1985),
    p.21, quoted in Kerem, ibid., p.15.

[21] Kerem, ibid., pp.8-12, 'The Persecution of the Jews', Times (London),
    16 May 1891; A. Ablagon to AIU, 19 October 1898, AIU, Grece VIII.B.34,
    Schaki (Larissa) to AIU, 23 August/4 September 1893, BAIU, Grece,
    Deuxieme Serie, no.18, 1er et 2e Semestre, 1893; Elia Fraggi (Larissa)
    to AIU, 5 June 1874, AIU Grece, I.C.22; Larissa AIU represantatives
    to AIU, 23 June/5 July 1897, AIU, Grece II.B.16; Jewish Community of
    Canea leaders in Samos to AIU, 3 March, 1897, AIU, Grece VIII.B.35.

[26] Pearl L. Preschel, The Jews of Corfu (Greece), Unpublished Ph.D.
    dissertation, New York University, 1984.

[27] Leon Sciaky, Farewell to Salonica: Portrait of an Era (New York, 1946);
    Edgar Morin, Vidal et les Siens (Paris, Seuil, 1989), 55-67; Paul Dumont,
    'The Social Structure of the Jewish Community of Salonica at the end of
    the nineteenth century', Southeastern Europe V (1979), 33-72; Galante,
    Turcs VIII, 18-21; Rodrigue, pp.178-80.

[28] A. Cohen, Ecole Secondaire Moise Allatini, Salonica, to AIU, Paris,
   no.7745/7, 4 December 1912, in AIU Archives I C 49.

[29] Mizrahi, President of AIU at Salonica, to AIU (Paris), no.2704/3,
   25 July 1913. In AIU Archives (Paris) I C 51.

Need I go on?

>  Now, the massive historical revisionism from Mutlu Incorporated
>  has to look for better sources :-).

And often affirmed.

Source: Statement made by Mr. Evangelos Yannopoulus - the Greek Minister
	of Maritime Affairs, ELEFTHEROTIPIA, July 4, 1988

	"The two myths in Cyprus must be exposed as lies. The first myth 
	is the case of missing persons and the second is the myth of the 
	invasion of Cyprus by Turkey. The Greek Cypriots presented as 
	missing persons were actually the victims who were killed during 
	the Sampson Coup. As regards the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey, it 
	was the Greek military that staged the coup and toppled Makarios 
	at a time when he was an internationally recognized President of 
	Cyprus. How is it possible to topple Makarios and start slaughtering 
	the Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots and impose a mad man like 
	Sampson to head the Cyprus Government and yet expect no reaction 
	from Turkey?"

Hasan B-) Mutlu

                     'Kill Turks and Kurds wherever you find them 
                      and in whatever circumstances you find them. 
                      Turkish children also should be killed as 
                      they form a danger to the Armenian nation.' 
                                     (Hamparsum Boyadjian - 1914)