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From: peggys@Wyeast.TEKTRONIX.COM
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat toys ideas
Date: 22 Jul 92 18:44:14 GMT
Reply-To: peggys@orca.wv.tek.com
Organization: Network Displays Manufacturing, Tektronix,Inc

> Shoelaces are still in demand after 6 months, altho she gets bored/tired
> quicker. Another favourite is a leather bookmark. I shall have to
				  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> try some of the other odds and ends mentioned.
> 
> Carol Denehy

How 'bout the bookmarks with the tassles on them?  My Muffin, the "nuthin'
phases me" Calico, loves these, especially if I leave it stuck in the book &
let it hang out.  She doesn't get excited about much of anything, except of
course food.  But string, of any kind is just about the only thing she'll get
off her hiny for.  I bought her a Cat Dancer & she loves to play with it but
she prefers to just lay on her back & bat at it.
					Peggy

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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: bicker@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Subject: Re: Aluminum balls Vs. Paper balls  Was: cat toys ideas
Reply-To: Brian.C.Kohn@att.com (The Resource, Poet-Magician of Quality)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:20:44 GMT
Followup-To: rec.pets.cats

In article <kJJDoB7w164w@ailanth.UUCP> ailsa%ailanth.uucp@wang.com (Ailsa N.T. Murphy) writes:
>mccurdy@bestsd.sdsu.edu (McCurdy M.) writes:
>> I used to go the foil route, but developed some concerns about my cat 
>> accidently eating aluminum bits or somehow getting it in his system. 
>i don't use foil either, but for a different reason.  i bit down on a 
>piece of foil once, and it was excruciatingly painful.  no idea why it 
>weould be, didn't dig my gums or anything, but i certainly don't want to 
>subject my cats to that.  anyone have any idea why biting a pieve of 
>tinfoil might be painful?  i have a lot of fillings, if that makes a 
>difference.  (nothign to do with cats, i realize, but i wouldn't be 
>surprised if someoen out there knew the answer.)

It is indeed your metal fillings that are causing this pain.  Rest
assured that your kitty would not have the same experience unless
you've had it in for serious dental work.  

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From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Re: What does he DO in there???
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., Lisle, IL
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 22:06:41 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.105354.6105@doc.ic.ac.uk> crb@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ruth) writes:
>This has been bugging me for a while.
>
>Every night now, while I'm in the lounge watching TV, Geno disappears into
>the kitchen.  He's very quiet in there, but as soon as I make a move, I hear 
>a thud, and he lands on the floor near the door, poking his head round as
>if to say "who me? I wasn't doing anything".
>
>Now, I don't leave any food out on the surfaces, so he can't be after that - 
>and since I've not yet managed to catch him in the act, I'm not sure what
>he is acutally climbing on.  I only seem to get there when he's in mid thud.
>
>What IS he doing? What IS he after? And WHERE is he jumping from - this
>happens EVERY night now - and I still can't work it out!!!!!
>
>Any suggestions????????
>
>Roo

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My guess is that he is going up onto the counter in order to get to
the sink and lick the water out of it.  When he hears you coming,
knowing he's not supposed to be up there, he jumps down and acts
innocent.

Fugazi does the same thing.  She sometimes get so bold as to jump
up there while I am in the kitchen with my back turned.  As soon as
I turn around, though, she jumps back down.

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From: nik@nik.b30.ingr.com (Nik Simpson)
Subject: Re: Update on bird attacks
Organization: Intergraph Systems Product Marketing
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 20:47:42 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.164527.14492@leland.Stanford.EDU> jay@cmn8.Stanford.EDU (Jay Kadis) writes:
>Well, Dexter seems to have had the last word in his battle with the pesky  
>Mockingbird...yesterday I found two piles of feathers in the back yard.   
>They included several primary flight feathers which looked suspiciously  
>like Mockingbird...and I haven't heard the constant chatter for several  
>days now.  I think the bird escaped, but just barely.  And Dexter seems  
>unusually proud of himself lately. I guess there's some life left in him  
>after all.

	I recently moved my cat from Engalnd to Alabama, all her life she
has been a lethal bird catcher as she was almost feral when I got her. Locally
we have alot of mockingbirds who have very little respect for the local cats
whom they divebomb with impunity.  The first time Eliza was let out, she was 
attacked by a mockingbird almost immediately, she couldn't believe her luck
and came with about a 1/2" of taking the bird straight out of the air. They
now heckle her from the safety of the roof but otherwise leave her well
alone.
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From: crb@doc.ic.ac.uk (Ruth)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Favorite places for catnapping...
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:26:07 GMT
Organization: Imperial College London

In article <1992Jul15.175721.17810@ncsu.edu>, echyatt@eos.ncsu.edu (EDWARD CRAIG HYATT) writes:

Of course his favorite
> is whatever paper I am currently reading
> or writing on.  I don't know what it is
> with cats and paper--the texture? the
> crinkling noise?
> - Craig
> 
Eppie goes one step further - she wants to sit *ON* the book that I'm 
reading.  I've tried reasoning with her, her bum is four times the size
of the open book, and it just isn't strong enough to hold her - all to
no avail..........perhaps she wants to do a literature degree.....?

Geno will nap anywhere where I am - next to the bath, kitchen sink, on 
the sofa, on the pillow, on the stereo (and even wakes himself up to go
with me when I move around the house - yes even to the toilet).  But
his favourite of all, is with his head stuck right down in one of my
shoes - god know how he survives the stink!!!!!!!

Spike - well his favourite place is anyplace one of the others is 
comfortably curled up - he just can't stand one of them having a 
space he hasn't.  Of course, this causes him severe problems over
decision making if the other two are in totally different places - 
"mmmmmmmmmmmmmm, which one shall I disturb first....."

Don't ya just love em....!!

Ruthie
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: Re: I want a cat...
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:20:49 GMT
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In <yQV-17_@engin.umich.edu> smbelcas@med.umich.edu writes:

> 
> Hello!  I'm looking for a cat.  Specifics:
> 
> -- I'm in Ann Arbor, MI. (but i can take cats within a small radius of Dubuque,
> Iowa as well.)
> -- I can't have the cat before the 28th of August, though i might be able to
> 	con one of my friends into housing it for a week or so before that.
> -- I would like the following characteristics, though i'm flexible...
> 	-- adult cat (with shots, obviously)
> 	-- grey tabby or black tabby (black, grey, and brownish varieties of
> 		cats are my next favorites)
> 	-- shorthaired
> 	-- female
> 	-- spayed
> 	-- front declawed (though i'd never do it to a cat myself)
> 	-- green eyes
> 
> My housemate has picked out an adult male, orange tabby, who is big and rather
> friendly, and has all of his claws.  I'd like a cat who doesn't resemble a dog
> in personality, but who will maybe sleep on my bed etc.  I respect cats highly
> and our house will be a very good cat home.
> 
> Anyone know of any cats available?  I'll be looking through the local papers;
> there are ads every week for free adult cats, but i thought the net might save
> me some looking.
> 
> Thanks, all!!
> 
> 
> 					--sarah marie belcastro
> 					  smbelcas@math.lsa.umich.edu
> 					  (313)-747-7555



I'm sure that your local shelter will have a wide variety of cats and other
critters to choose from.  The shelter folks will probably be able to 1) find
the cat you want out of the ones they have, or 2) call you when one comes
in.  I've found that they are anxious to get good homes and will keep in
touch.  The only thing you might not be able to find is a cat already declawed,
but I wouldn't recommend getting a cat who is declawed if there is a clawed
cat in the house.  After all, everyone should have a way of defending him/her-
self.  

And please, don't judge a cat too much on it's appearance as you would a dog.
While certain personality traits follow certain "looks" in dogs, it's not
always true for cats.  That green-eyed beauty may be a real bitch, while the
three-legged mop may be the world's sweetest creature.  This is true for my
own cats: the crabby glamour girl vs. the moth-eaten lap-fungus.  

Just go into a shelter and wait 'til you fall in love.  Then, I'm sure it
won't matter what she looks like.

Remember: at this time of year, cats all over the nation are giving birth like
there's no tomorrow, and for many of their kittens, there will be no tomorrow.
Our local shelter sometimes kills whole litters as soon as they come in because
there is just no room for them; this isn't usually true during the rest of the
year.  With so many cuddly kittens to choose from, who wants an adult cat?
Hopefully, someone like you...

	-Kristen
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Spaying after kittens
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:59:50 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

While the vet and I were giving Charlotte the once-over, I asked about
how soon a cat can be spayed after birth.  She said she prefers to do it
about 2-3 weeks after the kittens are weaned, since some of the veins
feeding the mammary glands are engorged, and you can run into real 
bleeding problems.

Presumably, that's also why some vets are reluctant to spay a pregnant
cat.

Kay Klier   
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ricegm@ecf.toronto.edu (George Matthew Rice)
Subject: Cat needs a good home
Followup-To: sybase!dana@Sun.COM
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 16:21:55 GMT


This is a posting for someone else. I have tried to direct the follow-up to her.
Please don't mail me ,I am in Canada and there is nothing that I can do
about it (helping you get the cat and being in Canada :-?


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My friend loves her cat, but wants to move in with her cat-allergic partner.
She's desperately seeking a good home for a cute, affectionate, young cat.
Call Miriam at (510) 532-8899 (that's in Oakland, California) if interested.

Thanks,

Dana
dana@sybase.com               
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There you go guys.And go easy on her friend about giving up the cat, she
isn't happy about it.

Matthew

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From: scott@phlpa.pha.pa.us (Scott Scheingold)
Subject: Thyroidectomy
Organization: Ian's Playhouse
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 00:46:20 GMT
Keywords: Thyroid

Hi cat lovers,

I have a domestic short hair 13 yr old cat. I just have taken it to the vet 
because she was not eating and she was loosing  alot of weight. We have found
out that her thyroid has a tumor and must be taken care of. Her thyroid level
is way up and she has just started tapazole 5mg 1 1/2 tabs twice a day. This
is to lower her thyroid activity. I have a number of problems I hope some
people may be able to answer.

1) I live in center city phila pa. The vet I take her to gets $132 for
   bloodwork. This has to be done approx every 3 wks until the meds are at
   the proper level. 

2)  The vet has made a few suggestions as to how to proceed. One is surgury to 
    remove her thyroid. They want approx $450 to do this. To me this seems
    very high. The other suggestion was to take her to NY and get radiation
    to destroy her thyroid but she must stay in NY for approx 2 wks because
    she would be considered radioactive. I would do this because it is supposed
    to be  safer than surgury. My delema with that is that I am afraid that
    the trip, distance and isolation for that time would do more harm than good.    ( I have another cat as well and I am afraid she will die of being away)
    Does anyone know where in NY this is done and approx how much it may cost.

3)  Another thing would be to get a second opinion from the university of PA
    hospital vet clinic. She would have to go there anyway because she needs
    to have her heart checked for swelling ect. My vet does not do these
    tests so I have no real choice. 


I have been told that I may get another 2 years from her just from meds but
surgury or the radiation *should* be done because meds don't work after a
while and the surgury or radiation could give me another 7 yrs or so. I love 
her so much. I could not put her to sleep because she is running me some real 
bucks. I don't want her to suffer either. But I am nct rich and by the time all
is said and done it will be over $1000.00. I would do anything for my  cats.
People have a hard time even pondering the idea that I would take her to NY
for the radiation. But you cat lovers can understand I am sure.

I would like some ideas on have to contian the cost and the easy way to
give her the pills. She is not a happy camper with these pills. Any info
or ideas would be wonderful.

Thanks for listening.

Scott
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From: jonb@Ingres.COM (Jon Berger)
Subject: Excretory revenge (was: Re: More Cat Toys)
Reply-To: jonb@ingres.com
Organization: Ingres, an ASK Company
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:46:00 GMT

In article <Bs2EIE.Ky2@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine) writes:
>Of course, cats leave other things in shoes too. I remember one of my
>precious cats once decided that she was going to be fastidious and
>leave a hairball somewhere other than on the rug...
>
>And I only discovered the location of the hairball when I put my
>foot into one of my shoes the next morning...

My mother-in-law's (late) cat Burton Rustle apparently had a knack
for this sort of thing.  It seems that she (my mother-in-law, that
is) was having some construction done on her house, and the carpenter
was definitely a non-cat-person.  One day he was eating lunch, which
included a ham sandwich, Burton's special favorite food.  Burton offered
to help him out with his lunch, and he declined, quite emphatically.
The next morning, my mother-in-law was awakened by a horrifying scream,
and she leapt out of bed, sure that the carpenter had cut off a finger,
at the very least.  In fact, what had happened is that Burton had shat
in the nail-pouch section of his tool belt.

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From: "steve waller" <steve.waller@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: pregnant manx
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:16:48 EST
Reply-To: "steve waller" <steve.waller@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

JJ>I have decided to post an update on the female manx because I have received
JJ>so many messages showing concern for the little lady.  I also wish to thank
JJ>everyone for their advice.

JJ>Any ideas on a name for her?

Well it's a pretty ordinary name but she sure is "Lucky" that you found
her.  Thank you for doing right for her....steve & banjo & joey
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From: gibson@dl5000.bc.edu (Rene Gibson)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cat toys ideas
Date: 21 Jul 92 17:10:50 GMT
	<14gvs6INNso3@early-bird.think.com>
	<14h0pdINNl5l@function.mps.ohio-state.edu>
Organization: Institute for Space Research, Boston College

In article <14h0pdINNl5l@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> jocha@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Marianne S. Jocha) writes:

>In article <14gvs6INNso3@early-bird.think.com> fuhry@think.com (Debbie Fuhry) writes:
>
>>Oh, no!  In our house it's definitely "fetch"!  I throw the little ball (or
>>whatever), and the cat(s) chase it and play with it, batting it around for
>>a while.  Then of course they give me THAT LOOK, and like a good girl I hop
>>right up, fetch the ball, and throw it again!
>
>Of course, only Sheba prefers elastic coated hair rubber bands (the
>very wide ones).  Sheba has a variation, though.  The first couple of
>throws, she'll fetch and bring it right back to me, but then will
>fetch and return it progressively further away from me, until I have
>to finally go fetch it for her!  I think she just wants to make sure
>that I'm still her servant and that she's still in charge! :-)

You people spoil your cats!  :-)  My Sheba and I play fetch combined with
a game called "I'm lazier than you are".  Sheba must bring the toy within
3 feet or less or I won't throw it.  If I ignore her long enough when she's
outside the 3 foot limit, she'll pick up the toy, run off with it, then 
bring it back and drop it closer.  Of course, when she brings it close
enough, I pet (or ruffle) her before throwing the toy again.  So I guess
I bribe and spoil her too.

Rene
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Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 10:12:38 -0400 
From: "Susan R. Wagner" <sw39+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: taking kitty along on vacation

Hello fellow cat lovers,

I am planning on taking my cat home with me during Christmas.  I realize
that it is six months away, but I am going home next month (not taking
him along this time) so I was wondering if I can do anything to prepare
my other two cats at home.  I am planning on leaving my cat (Jester) in
my bedroom most of the time.  He will come out an explore while the
other two are outside (which is most of the time).  MY two cats (Sam and
Sydney) use my bedroom to sleep.  Will Jester (the cat I am bringing) be
wierded out by their smell in the room?  Can I do anything to
"introduce" them now - like bring home something that smells like each
of them?  Or is it to far away to make a difference?  Will he act
differently when we return, in other words, will he start spraying and
stuff?  Thanks in advance for any information/advice/stories!

Susan and Jester


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From: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Subject: Re: Pounce: Result of Cat Survey
Reply-To: schlumpf@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Kay Schlumpf)
Organization: Materials Research Lab
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:34:35 GMT



Weeellllll....

Dante will crawl up your legs to get Pounce and meow like he's being
tortured if you don't give it to him right away.  Pixel will jump 5 feet 
straight up a wall  to get one but when it comes to just handing them
out nicely, she's quite polite until you get near her chompers...
You put the pounce about .5 inches away from her nose and she'll 
stare at it (she doesn't like to move and she doesn't talk to much..
although she IS a Siamese) then suddenly CHOMP! Just like an 
alligator going after a yummy morsel. They both come running
if you just OPEN the drawer their treats are kept in (a very heavy 
drawer in an antique chest...they haven't the strength to open it!).
Those two will do nearly ANYTHING to get some Pounce. The more
you give them, the more they want.  Like I just mentioned, Pixel
will jump up a wall! We tape the treat LOOSELY with masking tape
on the wall and Pixel will leap all the way to 5' just to get that 
treat. Dante's too lazy...

And for that matter, the dog likes them too. :-)

Kay
 
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From: jonathan@chpc.utexas.edu (Jonathan Thornburg)
Subject: much thanks (was: Re: Why do I do this to myself????)
Summary: thank you for your kind and generous actions
Keywords: cat lost abandoned human people rescue good noble kind ++good
Organization: U of Texas at Austin / Physics Dept / Center for Relativity
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 06:15:58 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.185632.5784@iscsvax.uni.edu>
klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> [touching story of rescuing a lost/abandoned cat,
>  now "Charlotte", who turned out to be pregnant]

Thank you for your kind and generous actions.  If there were more
people like you, the world would be a better place.  I hope both
you and Charlotte have long, happy, and furry (respectively) lives.

- Jonathan Thornburg
  <jonathan@einstein.ph.utexas.edu> or <jonathan@hermes.chpc.utexas.edu>
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  and (for a few more months) U of British Columbia / {Astronomy,Physics}
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy)
Subject: Re: Aluminum balls Vs. Paper balls  Was: cat toys ideas
Organization: None, and I like it like that
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:33:37 GMT

>In article <1992Jul21.232913.20114@sserve.cc.adfa.oz.au>, ccd@ccadfa.cc.adfa.oz.au (Carol C Denehy writes...
>> 
>>Penny is very good about fetching and bringing it back, often dropping
>>her foil ball into my hand. However, if I don't throw it far enough,
>>preferably bouncing off several things in the process, she won't
>>bring it back. She gives me a look that says, "Is that the best you
>>can do?"
>
>I used to go the foil route, but developed some concerns about my cat 
>accidently eating aluminum bits or somehow getting it in his system. 
>I switched to paper balls - just as enticing and I feel better about my 
>cat picking those up in his mouth. I could just be paranoid though ...
>
>Mike
>
>Mike McCurdy			"Everything I say may be wrong."	

I tried paper balls with Penny, as my other cats all loved them. But she
seems totally uninterested. Foil is the only thing for her and she rarely
destroys them. There were about 8 under the washing machine when we
moved it.  And she used to like fur mice and is now ignoring them.
The Cat Dancer is a big hit tho.

Carol Denehy


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