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From: ellie@ora.com (Ellie Cutler)
Subject: Celts/Hornets
Organization: O'Reilly & Associates, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 13:15:13 GMT

If I hadn't seen the ongoing score of this game, I would've thought
Charlotte won.  Parish and Lewis were off their shot (one wonders if
this is a permanent condition for the Chief).  Thankfully, Larry
Johnson had a bit of an off night too. Johnny Newman and Kendall Gill
were on for the Hornets.  Tony Bennet, their rookie PG out of
Wisconsin-Green Bay, got decent minutes and played well.  When
Mourning joins the fold (any day now) to give them a defensive
presence, the Hornets are going to be a playoff team.

Kenny Gattison was the Charlotte's center, and I hear he is on the
trading block (to make room for Alonzo?).  He's just 6-9, but could the
Celts capitalize on that matchup?  No, Parish didn't answer the call.
It was his 4th out-of-it game in a row.   Time was, after abysmal
showings, the Chief would respond with a monster game.  He tried last
night, but his shots just weren't falling.  Speaking of shots not
falling, Lewis was having a hard time finding the basket too, and Eddie
Pinckney missed a good 4-5 shots from within the one foot range.

Gamble was the shooter off the bench (best role for him), and poured in
18 points or so.  Easier for him to stick the J against D like
Charlotte's.  The McDaniel at PF, Gamble at SF starting lineup
experiment seems to be over.  Boston has started Pinckney and McDaniel
up front. Last night, Eddie pulled down 15 or so rebounds.  With Gamble
coming off the bench as designated shooter, the Celtic bench outscored
the starters.  Kleine and Dee Brown both had good games (Dee with 12
assists and a monster backwards left hand dunk).

McDaniel continues to be a solid contributor on both ends.  Rick Fox
only played 10 minutes.  The refs are calling him like a rookie, which
is pretty frustrating.  McHale only played 7 minutes, going 0-6 with
two rebounds, and looking like a real rust bucket.
-- 
        Ellie Cutler

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From: m1wcc00@fed.frb.gov (Wayne C. Cook)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Pacers Ramblings
Date: 12 Nov 92 14:10:43 GMT
Organization: Federal Reserve Board
In-reply-to: dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu's message of 10 Nov 92 16:51:58 GMT

In article <BxIEuM.Eq7@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> dwarner@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (David J.) writes:


/   Quite frankly, the Pacers blew it for the second time in two games.  They were
/   leading the Bulls 97-90 with 3:10 or so left in the game, and they didn't
/   score again.  They let Michael Jordan, meanwhile, score 10 or 12 points in
/   the home stretch.  What's more, they gave Jordan a free pass to the lane to
                                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Whoah! Miller was covering Jordan and he didn't give him a free pass.  No,
It was a serious lean in elbow from Jordan straight into (a very undeveloped)
chest which caused Miller to shift back on his heels, and away MJ went.



/  The officials hindered Indiana's cause again last night when they refused to
/   reset the shot clock after Sam Mitchell's errant hook shot glanced off the rim.
/  Mitchell grabbed the ball before going out of bounds and called timeout, and
/  a major argument ensued, but the refs left two second on the shot clock when
/  it should have been twenty.  Even Indy Star reporter Bill Benner was furious
/   over this.

This really sucked.  It changed the game dramatically.

/   Nevertheless, Indiana has no excuse for losing this game.

I suppose you're right here.  But, The no call on Jordan and the screwed no
reset of the shotclock was killer. 

  Donnie Walsh has
/   done everything right to make this a better team on paper, yet they cannot
/   translate it into a victory.  I suspect that if this trend continues, Bob Hill
/   will join the cast of The Hat Squad in the unemployment line come January.
/   Give this team to Rick Pitino or Pat Riley, and they would pose a much more
/   serious threat to the Bulls.  Is Don Chaney still around?

Hill must be a real puddin the way Smits continues to commit stupid fouls
and lacks intensity.  I also can't figure why he had Davis out of the line
up most of the end of the game after playing very well in the first half.
I didn't recall foul trouble and didn't hear of any injury trouble.
Wayne.
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From: navarrer@bionette.CGRB.ORST.EDU (Roy Navarre)
Subject: Re: Is Chris Jackson regaining his shot?
Organization: Biological Computing Consortium, OSU, Corvallis, OR.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 03:20:51 GMT

In article <2623@cronos.metaphor.com> cheng@jackal.metaphor.com (Chun Cheng) writes:
>Reading the scoring column, I saw C. J. scored over 30 pts in the first 2
>games.  I wonder if he has regained his shot or it is just a fluke.  Thanks
>for any insight!

Who said he ever lost it? Could it be the current coach has something to
do with CJ being given the playing time he needs to get in a groove and
having a supportive, encouraging Isil behind him?? I think so. CJ never
lost his shot.  At LSU I always thought his performance matched his mood.
That may not be the best thing, but its the way I think he is.
   How about CJ anyway! 32 points vs San Antonio, and 32 pts vs. Portland
If...IF there is any player I like better at LSU than SHAQ it was CJ. With
the possible exception of Shaq's NCAA game against BYU last year I dont know
that I have ever seen a college player dominate the way CJ did--and CJ had
many such games, whereas SHAQ equivalent performance was the BYU game. 
However--SHAQ was more often double and triple teamed and fouled--fouling
CJ was stupid since he was automatic at the line.
   Anyway, I'm delighted to see him of to such a great start!!! I have been
in more than one argument on this net deffending CJ against people who
said he was a wasted pick etc etc etc.

To quote Laurie Anderson "Oh boy.....right again"

Roy

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From: tmorgan@quesadilla.ssesco.com (Toni Morgan)
Subject: Re: Spurs???
Keywords: Spurs, Elliott, Sean
Organization: SSESCO
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:45:12 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.234011.21961@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> ibmpa!sharktank.ibmoto.com!scott@ibminet.awdpa.ibm.com writes:

>I'm sure there are plenty of Spurs fans waiting for the outcome
>of tonight's Home Opener against the Timberwolves.  It SHOULD be
>a rout!

Excuse me?  Ignoring the obvious affront to the new-and-improved Woofies, my
schedule doesn't show them in San Antonio until February.  You must have had
some other patsy in mind.

rgds,
  T

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From: edrury@3cpu.rain.com (Ed Drury)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: The Greatest or Most Dominating Ever
Date: 5 Nov 92 21:18:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: 3cpu.4304
Reply-To: edrury@3cpu.UUCP (Ed Drury)
Organization: Garden Lane Software


 I'd say the most dominating of all time was Edwin Moses.


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From: nates@ll.mit.edu ( Nate Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Suns Report: Phoenix beat Clippers in season opener
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:21:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: ll.1992Nov9.222146.6149
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Nov9.184454.6303@tvnews.tv.tek.com> randyc@tvnews.tv.tek.com (Randall Cornwell) writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.173124.24161@asuvax.eas.asu.edu> kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy) writes:
>>koehnema@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Harry Koehnemann) writes:
>>
>>     Another strange occurrence: when Ainge got two
>>three's in a row early in the fourth quarter, I found
>>myself yelling, "Don't you just HATE the little bastard!"
>>when I realized that now I was supposed to be saying
>>"Don't you just LOVE the little bastard!".
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>This reminds me of a "Letter to the Sports Editor" when Danny first came to 
>Portland.  It said "Hell froze over, I'm a Danny Ainge fan"!

THIS IS GREAT - even from the one & only Ed Lor last June:

From att!cbnewsk!lor Tue Jun  9 16:18:41 EDT 1992

><1992Jun7...[]...> lange@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (Trent Lange) writes:
>>But yes, one winner can make a huge difference on a team, especially
>>if he assumes a position of leadership in the game (cf. Magic Johnson,
>>Larry Bird: The Early Years.).  Ainge ain't no Magic, but he's been
>>to and won the championship before.  Drexler hasn't.
>
>I can't believe this. We Laker fans are praising Danny Ainge. Geez, who would
>we rather have on our team right now? Danny or Byron?
>
>Some comments on Ainge:
>
>- He is one smart dude. By snubbing the Toronto Blue Jays and joining the
>  Celtics, he won himself 2 rings and played in 5 finals. The Jays?they still
>  haven't got into the World Series yet despite all those talents.
>
>- How come we are able to stand Ainge nowadays? He is a hard working
>  sub who accepts his role and does whatever it takes to contribute. Did he
>  go thru' a personality change? back then, he was an arrogant,whiny scumbag 
>  who want to punch/bite everybody in sight. Why was he such a jerk at that 
>  time? My guess is that playing for the Green slime raises the ugly heads
>  of the players. The dark side of the person shows up. No wonder the
>  Celtics are billed as an "ugly" team.
>
>- If Ainge has big games in the finals, his team should better forget it.
>  He had big games in 1985 game 1 and 1987 game 5, both series the Celtics
>  lost. Ainge has big games == the stars struggle == no championship.
>  The problem is, Ainge has a quota of only one big game per series....
>
>- 
>                                         Edward Lor
>                                         lor@cbnewsk.att.com

- nate
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From: iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Imran Qureshi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Lakers
Date: 6 Nov 92 14:49:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov05.214522.23586@uvmark.uucp> davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks) writes:

>In article <1992Nov5.171740.8608@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Imran Qureshi) writes:
>>A an answer to Sean Knickman (fall260@cse.unl.edu) ('s) question about Laker
>>pt guards.  
>>
>>Sedalle Threat is awesome.  He consistently shoots above 50% from the field.  Two years ago he was second for guards behind MJ.
>>

>Though I am not argueing anything about your opinion of Threat, he does 
>NOT shoot above 50% from the field on a consistent basis.  Before this year,
>he was a career 48% shooter, breaching the 50% mark 3 times in his 8 year 
>career.  He also did not make it above 50% this year either.  His best 
>year was in 90-91, when he shot 51.9% from the field.

>Also, two years ago, when he shot the 51.9% from the field, he was not 
>2nd among guards.  

>John Paxson	- 54.8%
>Michael Jordan 	- 53.9%
>Vern Fleming	- 53.1%
>Blue Edwards	- 52.6%
>Kenny Smith	- 52.0%
>Sedalle Threat	- 51.9%
>Jeff Hornacek	- 51.8%
>Kevin Johnson	- 51.6%
>Terry Porter	- 51.5%
>Reggie Miller	- 51.2%
>Jeff Malone	- 50.8%
>John Stockton	- 50.7%
>Sherman Douglas	- 50.4%
>Jay Humphries	- 50.2%

>So, he was VERY good at shooting the rock, but not in the top 5.  


Actually I heard that stat on TV sometime last year (that Sedalle had the 2nd
highest shooting percentage amongst guards).  What that he must have meant is
that Sedalle was second highest amongst point guards (but I see he is 3rd if
Vern Fleming was playing the point).

Sorry about the "misstat."  However, he is still an excellent shooter for a
pt guard.                        

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>uvmark!davem@merk.com     ||  Through a curtains tear, shuffling its beams
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From: jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu (Jeff Hite )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Blazer fortunes
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:05:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: pith.1dbuprINNqqb
Organization: University of Oregon Network Services
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In article <96328@netnews.upenn.edu> liang@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Chuck  
Liang) writes:
> 
>   I haven't been reading this newsgroup for a while, but I know there
> must be a million and one pre-season predictions by now.  I too have a
> prediction:
> 
>   I prayed to God that I'd rather see the Blazers go 0-82 than have
> another four years of George Bush in the white house.  So don't be
> surprised if the Blazers stink up the joint this year.

Shame on you Chuck!!

jeffh@ludwig.cc.uoregon.edu
From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Lakers
Date: 5 Nov 92 16:39:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.Bx94y5.8yq
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

fall260@cse.unl.edu () writes:

>I would like to thank you for proving my point, and that is that not even 
>you Laker lovers can find a reliable or decent point guard out of:
>     
>Duane Cooper, Anthony Peeler, Tony Smith, Roy Sparrow, Sedale Threat
							^^^^^^^^^^^^^

	This man is a solid player.  In fact, last season, in his 1st year
	at the helm of the Lakers, he basically was their MVP.  He led the
	team in shooting % and assists, and was the man that kept LA into
	the playoff race.  Cooper and Peeler have tons of potential, or
	have U heard.  Smith is a solid defender, and Sparrow is a crafty
	veteran who could help out the young players.  While Magic is a
	huge loss for the Lakers, these players definitely don't hurt
	the Lakers at all.

	Jazzy J


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From: markts@mcl.ucsb.edu (mark.)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: rookie all-star game.
Keywords: all-star . rookies
Date: 12 Nov 92 06:44:43 GMT


 rumor has it that the old-timers game at the 
 all-star weekend will be replaced by a rookie
 all-star game. (due to low t.v. ratings and
 injuries last year.)

 the same rumor goes on to state that there will
 also be a rookie dunk and 3-pt. contest.

 personal opinion: goody.

 mark.

 mst3k is all i have to say.
From: echen@pooky.engr.washington.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: Pele the world's greatest athlete?
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:07:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: pooky.1992Nov05.051007.16891
Distribution: usa
Organization: clearer than blir

Who IS Pele? what's the big deal? never heard of him before

						Chris 
					echen@pooky.ee.washington.edu
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From: tron@tc.fluke.COM (Peter Barbee)
Subject: Re: Lakers
Organization: John Fluke Mfg. Co., Inc., Everett, WA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:14:07 GMT

>>>Sedalle Threat is awesome.  He consistently shoots above 50% from the field.  Two years ago he was second for guards behind MJ.
>
>Actually I heard that stat on TV sometime last year (that Sedalle had the 2nd
>highest shooting percentage amongst guards).  What that he must have meant is
>that Sedalle was second highest amongst point guards (but I see he is 3rd if
>Vern Fleming was playing the point).

Let's get real.  Threat is a fine guard but he really isn't awesome.  He
played 3 (?) years here in Seattle and while he certainly contributed he
was rarely awesome (unless of course you consider almost anything an NBA
player does on the court as awesome, which is true but beside the
comparative point we're discussing).

Threat hasn't been an All-Star and I'll bet he won't be.

Threat, as a point guard, was not able to beat out Nate McMillan (whose
career is suddenly blossoming but 3 years ago was considered the weakest
starter on the Sonics).

Threat didn't start consistently at 2 guard - although he did start and
play more at 2 than at point.  Ellis started and by the end of Sedale's
last year here Pierce was starting.

Peter B
Lines: 12
Date: Sat,  7 Nov 92 18:09:53 MST
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Subject: Re: Blazer fortunes
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo, Utah
From: jhak@sofya.math.byu.edu (Justin Hakanson)

>>  I prayed to God that I'd rather see the Blazers go 0-82 than have
>>another four years of George Bush in the white house.  So don't be
>>surprised if the Blazers stink up the joint this year.
>
>I think we'll see this one on the ballot as Anti-Woof of the Year.

Is there a FAQ for this conf?  If not, what's the Anti-Woof ballot?
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From: as232@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michael Lerner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Bulls
Date: 8 Nov 1992 19:41:51 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Well, in the early going, Pippen, Jordan, and Grant look good.  I think
Chicago has gone to the well once too often by hanging on to Cartwright.  He

is just too old and seems to be way over his head on the court.  Also, with
Armstrong starting, there's not much scoring off the bench.  McCray hasn't
performed well in his first two appearances.  Just a few observations.

Mike
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From: jmy51029@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Joshy)
Subject: Elliott will dominate tonight!
Summary: Elliott is the best
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:12:17 GMT
Keywords: Elliott, Spurs

Sean Elliott is the best, and tonight will break out of his shell.  He is
averaging over 20 pts per game this season so far, but tonight will do even
better!!!!

Please give me a 'B' in 231!!! =)   (Now I know you read this!!!  =)

joshy@uiuc.edu

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From: sikorski@news.miami.edu (Richard Sikorski)
Subject: Game results 07nov (short)
Organization: R.S.M.A.S.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 92 21:02:59 GMT



                         (All times EST)
                       Eastern Conference
                        Atlantic Division
                                W  L  Pct.   GB
New York                        2  0  1.000   --
Orlando                         2  0  1.000   --
Boston                          1  1   .500   1
Miami                           1  1   .500   1
New Jersey                      1  1   .500   1
Philadelphia                    0  2   .000   2
Washington                      0  2   .000   2
                        Central Division
Milwaukee                       2  0  1.000   --
Atlanta                         1  1   .500   1
Chicago                         1  1   .500   1
Detroit                         1  1   .500   1
Indiana                         0  1   .000   1 1/2 
Cleveland                       0  1   .000   1 1/2 
Charlotte                       0  1   .000   1 1/2 

                       Western Conference
                        Midwest Division
                                W  L  Pct.   GB
Denver                          1  0   .000   --
Utah                            1  1   .500     1/2
Dallas                          0  1   .000   1
San Antonio                     0  2   .000   1 1/2 
Houston                         0  2   .000   1 1/2 
Minnesota                       0  2   .000   1 1/2 
                        Pacific Division
Golden State                    2  0  1.000   --
Seattle                         2  0  1.000  00
LA Lakers                       1  0  1.000     1/2
Phoenix                         1  0  1.000     1/2
Sacramento                      1  0  1.000     1/2
Portland                        0  0   .000   1
LA Clippers                     0  2   .000   2

                        Saturday Results
        Orlando 103, Washington 98
        Detroit 89, Indiana 87
        New York 89, Philadelphia 85
        Miami 106, New Jersey 94
        Golden State 121, Minnesota 119 (OT)
        Atlanta 100, Chicago 99
        Utah 122, Dallas 106
        Milwaukee 124, Boston 88
        Phoenix 111, LA Clippers 105
        Denver 125, San Antonio 121 (2OT)
        Seattle 89, Houston 85 at Yokohama, Japan
                          Sunday Games
        Charlotte at Cleveland, 7:30 p.m.
        Denver at Portland, 10 p. m.
        Sacramento at LA Lakers, 10:30 p.m.
                           Monday Game
        Indiana at Chicago, 7:35 p.m.


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From: jgould@adobe.com (Jim Gould)
Subject: Top 15 Forwards?
Followup-To: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Organization: Adobe
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 16:29:27 GMT

Howdy,
 
 I would like to get a list of the TOP 15 Forwards based on AVG:

Points Rebounds Assists Steals Blocks & Turnovers

If you happen to get this info in your local paper (I get the Warriors).
Thanx an advance. Please Email to me, this information in Mr. Beverly's
hands could be  dangerous, becouse a mind is a terrible thing.

Jim Gould
Adobe Hounds of Rebound
ALL-TIME Leading REBOUNDER

Playin in the paint...
From: wardrb@cs.utexas.edu (Richard Byron Ward)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.basketball.pro
Subject: Re: analysis for 92-93 season
Date: 9 Nov 1992 16:44:25 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: grit.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Nov9.184404.14323@HQ.Ileaf.COM> raczka@HQ.Ileaf.COM (christopher raczka) writes:
|> Atlanta:    Will Dominique pass the ball more?
|>             Will Willis have the same kind of year as his last's?
|>
|     Nique is an excellent passer, he just doesn't have the most
|     court aware teammates. Welcome back Nique, get that MVP!
|     and while you're at it, keep Adam Keefe in the running for
|     Rookie-of-the-Year!
|
As I see it (looking into my crystal ball...), the race for MVP will be
between Jordan and Barkley with Barkley winning it after leading the
league in scoring and getting his first championship ring.  Of course,
I could be slightly off...  Barkley may come in second in scoring.

Rick
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From: jdt29225@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jazzy J )
Subject: Re: BOXSCORE chi01cle01.06nov92
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 16:56:48 GMT

alecb@gacvx1.gac.edu writes:
>williams,corey     1   0   0   0  0   0  0   0  0   0  0  0  0  0  0  0  0    0
		    ^

	What are the rules on getting into a boxscore?  In this game, Corey
	Williams only came in for the final 3.7 seconds of the game -- and
	did nothing (not even a turnover) to merit being in the boxscore.
	What are the rules?  If someone came in for 0.3 seconds only, would
	he get 1 minute in the boxscore?  And if you're using rounding-up
	to determine minutes, how would the total minutes add up to 240?
	Just wondering,

	Jazzy J
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