HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: loshry@wh.wuacc.edu (ryan losh)
Subject: Gif viewer for Linux WITHOUT X
Reply-To: loshry@wh.wuacc.edu (ryan losh)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 23:36:34 GMT

Hello all,
	Kudos to the many contributors for an EXCELLENT alternative
to the brain-dead usage of my hardware (M$-DO$)

	I am looking for a GIF viewer that runs under Linux.  I don't
have the right card to run X, so thats out :-(  Any suggestions???
By the way, this is the only thing that is keeping me from killing
my DR-DO$ partition, and letting Linux have the whole disk!!!

	Keep up the EXCELLENT work!!!
		Ryan

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: steffen@gfz-potsdam.dbp.de
Subject: dosfs in 0.96pl2 ?
Reply-To: steffen@gfz-potsdam.dbp.de
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 07:52:45 GMT

RFC-822-Headers:
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]

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X-Mn-Key: normal

Hi linuxers,

I'm now up to patchlevel 2 of 0.96c and hoped to be able to use the dosfs.
(I currently use the mcc package, with additions/replacements from jwinstea's
rootimage-0.96 on a sx-20 4mb ram 20mb / - notebook. The partitions are
/dev/hda1 dos primary
/dev/hda2 extended
/dev/hda3 linux root
/dev/hda4 linux swap
/dev/hda5 dos d:)

I tried to mount
mount -t dosfs /dev/hda1 /dosc

and get:
get fs type failed dosfs
/dev/hda1 already mounted or /dosc busy

From reading the MIT digests, I hoped to be able to mount a dos FS...
The mount on rootimage-0.96 is said to be able to do this...
The new kernel patches are said to incorporate dosfs.5 ...
Can anybody help me out of my blindness ?
Thanks,
--
Steffen Grunewald | IP : steffen@gfz-potsdam.dbp.de | Phone : (+49)331-310526
GeoForschungsZentrum Potsdam,  Telegrafenberg A3,   O-1561 Potsdam,   Germany
#include <disclaimer.h>     /* >>> I don't like Mondays - and .sig's ! <<< */
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: janl@ifi.uio.no (Jan Nicolai Langfeldt)
Subject: Re: cron?  Where is it?
Organization: Folkeaksjonen for (tungt) eple cider p} Inf. stua
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:31:45 GMT
Originator: janl@bera.ifi.uio.no


In article <1992Jul29.001204.991@ncsu.edu>, doogie@garfield.catt.ncsu.edu (Jeff House) writes:
> cron:

vixie-cron, somewhere in the bowels of a linux ftp site near you

> who:

part of a ps package

> write:

In ps package too (I seem to remember)

> talk:

Someone said they had ported minix talk, didn't make it available yet
though (I think)

-- 
Nicolai Langfeldt, "Bugs made while you wait"             
Internet: janl@ifi.uio.no

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jes@grendel.demon.co.uk (Jim Segrave)
Subject: Bad blocks, inodes and .badblocks -> Make root inode 2
Distribution: world
Organization: None
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 20:53:49 +0000


Following is a suggestion for a minor change to the filesystem which (I hope)
should make the system slightly more robust.

----------

Traditionaly UNIX uses inode 2 for its root inode, (whereas Linux uses
inode 1, a holdover from minix), and inode 1 is not allocated.

I suspect that this inode (1) was originally used for a bad blocks file,
like .badblocks, which *did not* appear anywhere in the file system.

From what I have seen of System V systems the use of inode 1 in this manner
seems to have ceased and the file system now has its bad blocks remapped
to good ones making the whole filesystem appear to be good.

May I therefore suggest that we follow the original (?) practice, namely use
inode 2 for the root and an unattached inode 1 for the bad block file. This
will allow people with MFM drives (such as myself) to (almost) act as if we
have a perfect drive. We still won't be able to read the device but it will
prevent accidents from happening when the bad block file is accessed or
deleted (mcc interim 96c nearly got me :) ).

It will also incidentally bring us in line with the rest of the UNIX world.
If we are to make this change then, with the extended file system here and
a FFS on the horizon, we should make it soon before the current organisation
becomes too widespread.

Obviously this will also require that fsck and mkfs are updated, but those
are fairly minor changes (which I would be willing to do.)

Cheers,

Derek Fawcus

A utility could be written to allow swapping a pair of inodes would
allow users who don't wish to re-mkfs their discs to move .badblocks to
inode 1

--
Derek Fawcus c/o  jes@grendel.demon.co.uk
From: mirons@ccs.northeastern.edu (Michael A. Irons)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Registry of ongoing projects
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:31:39 GMT
Organization: Northeastern University, CCS Dept.


	IMHO, it might be best to have a section in the FAQ with a list of
utilities and the person 'responcible' for them. This way people can have
a way of knowing who to send bug-reports to, as well as a list of what's
been ported.

				Mike Irons;
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: ksh for Linux & olwm for X (do they exist?)
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:41:04 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Jul28.043659.6215@news.columbia.edu>, jml12@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Jonathan M Lennox) writes:

|   Bash ought to be a superset of ksh--is there something in ksh that's
| missing in bash?  Or do you just feel that bash is too bloated?

  No, bash is not a superset of ksh, although many features are similar.
Neither the user interface or the programming interface are identical or
a subset. I'm constantly trying to use ksh stuff on bash and finding out
that it isn't there or works a little differently.

  That's not a criticism of bash, just a factualy note. Bash is a nice
enough shell, but it does things in its own way.

  If I get the chance after the Olympics are over I may try to compile
real ksh on linux. As long as I do it on a work machine it's covered by
the site license, so I can legally do that, although I can't share the
binary.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Finally, the Trilogy of install problems are done.
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:13:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: crd.1992Jul21.131321.16857
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <TXy8NB4w165w@ssg.com>, unixsys@ssg.com (Rick Emerson) writes:

|> If you think that's neat, try the version at sc.tamu.edu.  It's Owen's
|> mcc-interim with some patches *and* X11 in an installation that's just about
|> as slick as mcc-interim alone (gotta hack Xconfig, for example).

  Since we're saying good things about this version, I'll second that,
and I've sent off a few tiny programs which dave may or may not think
make it easier. Great job!
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: wcn@cs.brown.edu (Wen-Chun Ni)
Subject: Re: New Emacs binary?
Organization: Brown University Department of Computer Science
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 15:55:55 GMT

In article <FASCIANO.92Jul25102005@nil.IRO.UMontreal.CA> fasciano@nil.IRO.UMontreal.CA (Massimo Fasciano) writes:
>Hi,
>
>i was wondering if a binary (shared or static) of Emacs compiled with
>a recent (2.2.2) release of GCC was available somewhere?
>
>i kinda remember having seen a discussion about putting the new emacs
>in /usr/emacs v.s. /usr/local/emacs and i think /usr/emacs won (and i
>agree), so i believe somebody was working on a more recent binary, but
>the discussion just ended and Emacs was not mentioned since then.
>
>should we expect a new binary soon?
>
>Thanksinadvance
>
>Massimo.
>
>--
>=================================================================
>=  Massimo Fasciano       E-MAIL: fasciano@IRO.UMontreal.CA     =
>=================================================================

I successfully compiled Emacs 15.18 using gcc 2.2.2 after changing
some parameters. The major problems I've encountered  and can't
be solved up to now are:
  1. The suspended Emacs cannot recover the the terminal characterisics
     after being resumed.
  2. The M-x shell command doesn't work quite correctly no matter how
     I change the method of interprocess communications.

The first problem also haunts the elvis binary I got from banjo so I
guess that there may be  bugs in the library. 

I also hack a little on emacs/lisp/term/at386.el to obtain a set of
elisp files suitable for Linux's virtual consoles. I myself don't
know whether there are people working on the version, but the source
I got from tsx-11 isn't a ported source because there remain alot
of works to be done when I was porting emacs.

My work is just for fun and it isn't for public release.



Wen-Chun Ni
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: changing to another virtual console...
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:13:02 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <1992Jul22.045943.925@sspiff.ampr.ab.ca>, dje@sspiff.ampr.ab.ca (Doug Evans) writes:

| The SVR4/386 systems and SCO Xenix provide ioctl's to do this.
| I think Linux should just follow suit and use those. Why add extra
| pain to people porting applications that use the ones already in existence?

  The world is breaking down to BSD and V.4, and BSD is going away...
please use the SVR4 standard rather than xenix, if they differ. I agree
that reinventing the wheel is not the way to go.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cummings@hammer.Prime.COM (Kevin Cummings)
Subject: Re: Linux Installation
To: kohlbus@wam.umd.edu
Keywords: Installation
Organization: Prime Computer R&D
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 21:33:12 GMT

In article <1992Jul19.212439.14498@wam.umd.edu>, kohlbus@wam.umd.edu (Robert Carr Kohlbus) writes:
> 
> 	Ok, here's the deal.  I got the files bootimage-0.96a and the file
> rootimage-0.96 along with the rawrite.exe file. I brought them down to my PC
> in binary mode, then used rawrite to place bootimage-0.96 onto a floopy.  I 
> then attempted to reboot my pc with this floopy.  I then got the message..
> 
> 	Loading.....................................
> 
> Then is hangs.  Is it suppose to do this?  The Installation guide on installing
> linux only said to 
>     2) Test out the Linux v0.96b boot disk with the Linux v0.96 root
>     disk.  If you are unable to get the boot disk to work properly on
>     your system, try posting to comp.os.linux, or contacting Linus.
> 
> Well I have no idea what this means, so I'm posting my question to this news
> group.  Any help you be great.  Please respond via E-mail to one of the       
> addresses below.  Thank you.

RTFM you have to use 0.96b-pl2 or better with the 0.96 root disk.  The current
boot image is 0.96c-pl2.  DON'T USE 0.96a!

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		  I've come to the conclusion that your new
		  defense system SUCKS..."   --  War Games
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: kfogel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Karl Fogel)
Subject: Shoelace and booting from harddrive... help?
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Distribution: comp.os.linux
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 21:42:00 GMT
X-Posted-From: occs.cs.oberlin.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

To anyone who knows the answer:

	I'm using shoelace so I can boot Linux directly from my hard
drive... Linux is on the second partition, hda2. Shoelace is installed
fine, and when I boot the computer, I get a menu asking which partition to
boot from, with a little asterisk next to the "2" at the beginning of the
second line and everything the way it's supposed to be. The problem is,
if I actually choose 2, it can't boot. It gets all the way to the line

"LoadImage"

... and that's it. No more, no boot, no fun...
	To boot from the Linux partition, shoelace looks for a file with
the bootimage in a place specified by /etc/config. Mine says:

boot        /bootimage

and the file /bootimage is an _exact_ copy of the boot disk that I use to
boot Linux with the rootimage on the hard drive... i.e.: the standard dist-
ribution boot disk, with that word modified (thanks, Norton Disk Editor) to 
cause it to look on the hard drive for the root. To put the actual bootimage
on the hard drive for shoelace to use, I just did:

cat /dev/fd0 > /bootimage

with the boot disk still in the floppy drive.
	I think that this must not have done what I intended. Am I correct in
deducing that it would not produce the kind of bootimage shoelace is looking
for, and if so, what to do? What am I supposed to put in the the file
/bootimage? I doubt the problem is with shoelace itself, as I can get to my
DOS partition from there, and use a floppy to get to Linux at any time...
Any ideas from Those In The Know :-?


--
				-Karl Fogel
				("Leg of Lark")
				(kfogel@occs.cs.oberlin.edu)

       	    "I'm not lost... I know exactly where I'm not!"
From: wuwei@acf3.nyu.edu (Wei Wu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Compiling GDB 4.6 died: missing machine/reg.h ??
Date: 25 Jul 92 17:37:49 GMT
Organization: New York University

I tried to compile gdb 4.6. It is supposed to support linux.
I configured for linux. The make died in making bfd lib.
Missing header file <machine/reg.h>. Am I missing something 
on my system ?


Wei Wu (wuwei@acf3.nyu.edu)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Subject: Re: tsx-11.mit.edu Linux
Reply-To: tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 00:16:02 GMT

   From: ujlh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (James Henrickson)
   Date: 28 Jul 92 22:31:19 GMT

   Maybe it is an mit problem in general?  The same thing has been happening
   when I ftp prep.  It might be somewhere else, though, as it also happened
   when I ftp'd nic.funet.fi recently.  I've even gotten responses back in
   a different order than I issued the commands!  :-)

No, it's not an MIT problem.  Just so that everyone knows:

	The problem is that the ftpd running on TSX-11 is based on the
ftpd found in BSD 4.2 (with the various security holes closed).  The
reason why I haven't upgraded the ftpd to use a more recent version is
that this one does logging, and the BSD 4.3 one doesn't.

	Yes, I know there are a lot of spiffier FTP daemons around.  In
particular, I do have the one from nic.funet.fi.  I just need time to
configure it and compile it and test it.  It's a case of my not having
one of those mythical round tuits....

							- Ted
From: sharman@Software.Mitel.COM (Richard Sharman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Problem compiling the kernel.
Date: 23 Jul 92 22:10:22 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <1992Jul21.154453.13339@gmuvax2.gmu.edu> esaffle@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (Ed Saffle) writes:

   In article <1992Jul21.124846.2263@rhrk.uni-kl.de> herfert@arctecserv-1.informatik.uni-kl.de (Michael Herfert) writes:
   >I use Linux 0.96c and GCC 2.2.2.
   >Compilation of the kernel is succesfull but when running there come error messages like:
   >  getwd: can not access parent directory
   >Any help ?

   This is the same kind of thing that happened when I first tried the linux
   boot & root images after rawrite'ing then to disks...maybe if someone comes
   up with an answer to this one, it would also be valid toward my problem.


I think this means that that a parent of your home directory is not
searchable.   I *believe* that getwd routines typically "walk up" the
tree from the current directory until they get to the top (the root)
to find out "where they started from" -- i.e. the initial working
directory.  (Typically the kernel does not maintain a printable string
corresponding to every process's current working directory, so they
have to work it out.)

So, if, say, your home directory was /home/people/fred
check that /home and /home/people had the "other"'s 'r' and 'x'
permission bits set.


If the above is inacurrate would someone please let me know?

rs
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Anyone done bc?
From: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Organization: The Man With Ten Cats
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 04:35:36 GMT
Reply-To: rmk@rmkhome.UUCP (Rick Kelly)

In article <1992Jul22.201824.23946@crd.ge.com> davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen) writes:
>Last night using linux I realized how much I use bc. Has anyone done a
>port, or is there even a free version? Seems there was a GNU version,
>but it may only have been dc.

Yes, there is a GNU version.  It's on prep.ai.mit.edu in pub/gnu.

bc-1.02.tar.Z

-- 

Rick Kelly	rmk@rmkhome.UUCP	unixland!rmkhome!rmk	rmk@frog.UUCP
From: kxb@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Karl Buck)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: tlQ: why does Linux 0.96c auto-logout during long make?
Date: 29 Jul 1992 14:54:40 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

laakkone@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Tero Laakkonen) writes:

[..autologout problem described..]

If you are using tcsh, try putting "unset autologout" in your .cshrc file.

I don't think bash has an autologout feature.
-- 
Karl Buck         O, Freddled Gruntbuggly      
Grain Marketing   Thy Nicturations are to me   
Research Lab      As Plurdled Gabbleblotchits  
(913)776-2745	  On a lurgid bee.       -- Chief Prostetnic Vogon Jeltz
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: joef@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU ()
Subject: Ok. You Win. I give up.
Summary: Where the hell is neqn and tbl?
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 12:15:53 GMT

   OK. I give up. After looking thru every concevable archive site I must 
submit myself to posting.. <sigh>  When I run xman it can't find neqn and
tbl.  Any ideas ppl?  [I've also talked to a few other ppl, and they don't 
know where it is, so please post, not mail..]
  
        Joe

---
joef@extro.ucc.su.oz.au
From: woody@cs.utexas.edu (James Woodgate)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Video7 VRam text modes
Date: 23 Jul 1992 19:32:01 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: cash.cs.utexas.edu
Keywords: Video7 VRam text


If you have a Video7 VRam card and are unable to set
the text modes at start up, mail me, I changed 
setup.S, and now I can run Linux with 7 different
text modes, yea!

My first change to the kernel, and it only took me
12 tries, it's so nice to be reminded of that each
time I start it up! :D

Seriously, I can't believe how easy it was to get my
Video Card working correctly.


-- 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
           -Linux Rules-                |
  -"I've been Dos free for 30 days      |
    now."-Former Dos Addict             | Address: woody@cs.utexas.edu
From: jon@robots.ox.ac.uk (Jon Tombs)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Ghostscript 2.4.1
Date: 24 Jul 92 23:37:51 GMT
Organization: Robotics Research Group, Engineering Science Dept, Oxford, UK.
Originator: jon@lucrece.robots


I have `ported' Ghostscript 2.4.1 to linux for 486 machines. (OK I edited a
makefile and typed make - thank god for well written code :-). If anyone
wants the binary it can be found on ftp.robots.ox.ac.uk in /pub/linux/486.

Now that the dos vfs is up and running fine, it is a simple matter for me
to back up my linux partitions onto tape.  Is there any interest for me to
put the entire tree of my system up for ftp? It is slightly 486 specific
but it has working gcc, latex, gs, X11 etc almost all compiled with gcc2.2.2.

--
 Jon                    <jon@robots.ox.ac.uk>
                        "I got in today just as the sun was crashing"
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)
Subject: GNU Hurd (was Re: BSD Unix)
Originator: jlnance@volt.ece.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jlnance@eos.ncsu.edu (JAMES LEWIS NANCE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 13:15:26 GMT


In article <1992Jul21.112705.6276@cs.cornell.edu>, murthy@cs.cornell.edu (Chet Murthy) writes:
|> free unix is perhaps 2 years away - in 2 years, linux will be stable.
|> In two years, the GNU Hurd will be stable.  And AT&T can 

I have been wondering this for some time but have refrained from asking it
because it sounds like a flame, but it is not.

GNU has been working on Hurd for as long as I have know about them.  This has
been at least 3 years, and I have seen nothing from them.  Linus has been
working on linux for about a year and a half, and has produced a very good
operating system.  Does anyone know what is taking GNU so long?  Prehaps they
have released beta versions that I am unaware of, or prehaps they do not 
want to release anything before they get it finished?  Anyone know?

Thanks,

Jim Nance
From: wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Splitting the comp.os.linux group
Date: 21 Jul 92 11:38:49 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

wirzeniu@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Lars Wirzenius) writes:
>university's networking), but since I am mostly opposed to the idea, I
>won't.

Actually, after having thought it over again, I think that a
comp.os.linux.news group might be useful.  It would be for
announcements of new versions, ports, etc, for buglists, patches,
Linux-on-tv, etc.  Probably moderated.

What I am against is c.o.l.x (X-related questions seem to be mostly
installation, and if people have problems installing, we either need
better documentation or most probably users that (sic) READ
documentation), c.o.l.kernel (not enough traffic, and there's a mailing
list), c.o.l.programming (not enough Linux-specific traffic).

I'll think this over, and if I still think comp.os.linux.news (possibly
.announce) is a good idea, I'll post an RFD (unless somebody beats me to
it).  One opposition is that there aren't _that_ many announcments, and
those could be handled either by putting 'ANNOUNCE' on the subject line,
or creating a mailing list for this.

--
Lars.Wirzenius@helsinki.fi
From: S_URIARTE@iravcl.ira.uka.de (|S| Juan Uriarte)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Tcp/Ip and Linux
Date: 23 Jul 1992 10:51:49 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe (FRG)
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: irav1.ira.uka.de
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

Hi u crazy users of Linux.
What's the point in having unix without net-access?
Ok.U have kermit.How good.
Unless someone(I am just a luser) writes somethig to support Ethernet and
TCP/IP I personally think that Linux won't find massive acceptance.
What do you think?

PS:Excuse my errors,but English is my third language.
**ix without Internet is like a car without roads.(my 2 cents)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux