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From: Ty_Sarna@fcircus.sat.tx.us (Ty Sarna)
Subject: Re: RISC Amiga
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
X-NewsSoftware: BBX-UMB 0.27a beta (Nov 30 1992)
Date: 18 Dec 92 12:07:09 CST
Organization: The Flying Circus Amiga BBX, San Antonio, Texas


In <1grkkgINN7gg@uniwa.uwa.edu.au>, pdcruze@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Patrick D'Cruze) writes:
> This at last leaves us with DEC's Alpha processor.  Looking at the
> design specs of this cpu, I feel that this is an excellent choice. 
> There are a few reasons why Commodore might want to move to the Alpha
> processor.

And one major disadvantage, namely the other-endianness of Alpha
releative to what Amiga software expects. Writing software to support
either is pretty easy, but 99% of amiga software isn't. This does mean
that porting to ALPHAmiga (for lack of a better name) would be more than
just a recompile (although that would likely be true to a certain extent
of any RISCmiga).

MIPS processors do have the ability to run either-endian.

I'd like to see ntohs(), ntohl(), htons(), and htonl() in
utility.library, even if the RISCmiga is same-endian or doesn't
materialize at all. 

["All together now! One little, two little three little endians, four
 little, five little six little endians, ..."]

> 2.  A company the size of DEC would be well placed to provide new and
> improved compilers which are the key to gaining maximum performace
> utilisation from a risc cpu

Consider that SAS/C is a byproduct of SAS's statistical software and
that they'll likely be doing an Alpha port of SAS/C for their own use
anyway (if they haven't already)...

> 4.  We would be able to gain access to all of the major Operating
> Systems throughout the rest of the decade.  An Alpha based Amiga would
> be able to run AmigaDOS, Unix, Windows NT and VMS.  Now whether we would
> want any or all of these is another matter but at least the option is
> there.

AmiVMS? AAAAAAIIIIIEEEE! Run away! Run Away!

Yes, it probably could run VMS. [In best heavy Jewish accent:] "And this
you call a feature?"

> I for one think that it is inevitable that Commodore will move to the
> RISC cpu line, simply because all of its competitors (except for Atari)
> have or are planning on moving to RISC.

I very much hope that you are correct.


Two more thoughts:

[1] Someone dismissed RISC Amigas as a pipedream because Eggebrecht said
that the exact cpu hadn't been decided on yet. To me this doesn't sound
like "We haven't decided MIPS, SPARC, [...], or Alpha yet", but like
"We've decided in [whichever]. We haven't decided exactly which model(s)
yet".

[2] Dual-CPU machines would be a fantastic way to do things initially.
Developers, inparticular, could develop for both platforms on the same
machine, and also don't have to loose access to their accustomed
development environment durring the initial dearth of applications.


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: iank@microsoft.com (Ian Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Dan flipped through an AmigaWorld, and:
Date: 13 Dec 92 22:48:39 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Dec13.021529.20368@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>2) Wow, that WB 2.0 looks AWFUL.  Granted, I haven't actually used it, but

I disagree. I work on Windows. I use an Amiga at home. I prefer Wb 2.0/3.0
to Windows. It's "3D" like windows. And if you want 16 colors, like windows,
you can do it. And remeber : Windows GUI uses only 16 colors, the same
16 colors while an Amiga can do any 16 it likes. You can have multicolored
icons and everthing. And with 3.0 you can customize just as much (even more)
than Windows. Use any of 16million colors in the GUI, make a color scheme
that make you barf, looks photo-negative..whatever. Under Windows you are
limited to the same 16 colors for your gui. Don't like the shade of red
in your windows? Tough shit. the "custom colors" Windows uses are just
ditherd from the base 16.

>that does it.  Really, it hardly looks any better than the mouse-interface 
>for MSDOS 5.0's EDIT.COM.  Or QBasic. You get the picture.  Really, you guys

Hardly. You obviosly don't have a clue to sapre.
Somebody aught to make a 256 color screenshot of a AGA workbench,
save it as a gif and let this guy look at it. If he still thinks it looks
like shit, well then I guess our marketing guys have done a really
good job on him! The more people like Dan here, the more my stock
splits, the earlier I retire. Way to go MS Marketing!

>may claim Windows and OS/2 looks to flashy/blocky/clumsy, but WB2.0 looks
>primitive as hell!

Actually use it and maybe you'll see the difference.
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From: eyeq@wpi.WPI.EDU (Brent Burkholder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Tandy Unveils 16-Million-Color CD-ROM Multimedia system
Date: 20 Dec 92 21:23:58 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <BzKosp.2zF@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N. Barrett) writes:
>
>   Tandy has finally announced their new desktop MPC-compatible computer system
>with a 16-million-color display and CD-ROM drive as standard hardware.  
>It is called the "Sensation" and carries a list price of $2100.  They have
>been advertizing it like mad, as you can expect from Tandy.  My question is:
>when will we ever see anything like this from Commodore?  How hard could it
>possibly be to stick a CD-ROM drive into an A4000 and sell it, anyway? 
>
>   It looks like Commodore really is going to be the last major personal
>computer company to bring out a desktop computer with a CD-ROM drive.  Really
>pathetic.
>
>---
>| Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
>--------------------------------------------------


  Mark, go away.... If you hate the machines, the company that makes the
machines, everyone who reads this newsgroup, then why do you bother?

If you think that IBM makes a better computer, then go and use an IBM, Mac,
or tandy... I'm really getting tired of listening to your whining.
From: marks@castle.ed.ac.uk (Mark Steyn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: My WB (was e: Dan flipped through an AmigaWorld, and: )
Date: 16 Dec 92 12:30:01 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:

>Ahh, I'll have to download them tonight.  Recently, I've beemn playing
>Ultima Underworld for the past several hour.  You've heard of Ultima
>Underworld, haven't you?  You know, it is...  :-)

Yes Dan, I have heard of Ultima Underworld.  From my point of view it
appears to be a rather large stick which you seem to be using to beat
everbody in this group with.

	Mark

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: danaf@bray1b.its.rpi.edu (Frank R. Dana Jr.)
Subject: Re: Dans uploaded OS/2 Screens SUCK!
Reply-To: danaf@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 04:52:52 GMT

In article <Bz9Cwr.4FI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, nap42487@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Nishith A. Patel) writes:
|> Any one with half a brain could see this post coming. As if people would get
|> done with a huge thread on the looks of the WB, then look at the opposing
|> environment, and say, "Oh, I was wrong, OS/2 screens actually do look nice."
|> You already had a preset frame of mind beofre looking at the OS/2 screens that
|> were uploaded.

I will agree with this... limitedly.

I agree that there is little chance of people chaging their minds based on a
set of screenshots. However, I resent the implication that this is because we
are all closed-minded moron who will never change their views, no matter what
is thrown our way. 

I went into this with a very open mind. I kept hearing about how great OS/2 
was, and I figured that maybe, for once, it was true. Then I saw it. To be 
fair to OS/2, it doesn't look nearly as bad as Dan's shots make it out to
be. I played with it in the campus computer store, and it looked a good deal 
better than HIS system. But, still, the basic complaints people have raised 
are good ones, I think, and I *STILL* don't like it.

Reminds me of the Sierra games. Every time a new Sierra game came out, my 
stupid friend tried to convince me that THIS one would be the "good one". The
good one never came. Now that Sierra has dropped their Amiga line, at least I
won't have to listen to that moron friend anymore.

|> >My WB is quite nice.  And you can't even see it all because my
|> >BEUTIFULLY drawn ANIMS in my DOCK aren't all shown.  Only the first
|> >frame.   I'll snapshot it anyways, and post it
|> >up on amiga.physik.unizh.ch  It'll probably end up in the directory
|> >with all the other WB pics... gfx/wb (or is it pix/wb?)

I've GOT to get TM2.0 set up. It's sitting on my Hard Drive, waiting for these
coming three weeks with no net access, work to do, or laser printer. I'll have
little to do but tweek the WB. In three weeks, it should be fabulous.

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From: ggiles@cie.uoregon.edu (Gregg Giles)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: IBM, what's wrong?
Date: 19 Dec 1992 15:17:11 GMT
Organization: University of Oregon Campus Information Exchange
NNTP-Posting-Host: cie.uoregon.edu

In article <BzH5HG.3Co@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> papresco@cantor.math.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:
>
>Is there a Willy Beamish for the Amiga?

   Yes.

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From: damiel@netcom.com (Paul Theodoropoulos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Where is Jeff Young?
Date: 12 Dec 92 19:05:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Dec12.190512.25809
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)
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In <1992Dec12.084649.5018@cs.mcgill.ca> jerry@cs.mcgill.ca (Gerald (Jerry) KUCH) writes:
>Me eat BRAIN and now me JUST AS COOL AS JEFF YOUNG!

>Seriously, though, I was wondering the same thing.  Where has he gone?

JEFF YOUNG was an epiphenomenon of the internet.

noise in the bitstream.

he never really existed.

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From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  OS/2 vs Win NT (was: 4 Colour Interfaces : -( )
Distribution: world
Date: 13 Dec 92 14:24:51 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <1992Dec11.171917.28975@usl.edu> das9674@usl.edu (Stephenson Daniel A) writes:
>One little, two little, three little endians, 
>Four little, five little, six little endians,
>Seven little, eight little, nine little endians,
>Ten little Endian boys!
>;)
>
>And there is, for those of us who haven't a clue as to what an 'endian' is:
>
>"Hey, Pa!  Those wild Endians are a-comin' our way!  get out the shotgun!"

It's simple, endianess refers to the way a processor reads a byte of data,
that is, whether the most significant bit or the least significant bit is
read first.

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From: D.J.Butcher@newcastle.ac.uk (Dave Butcher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Wolfenstein 3D
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:52:24 GMT
Distribution: world,public
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <1992Dec15.092027.940@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>, nudd@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Nai Ying Kwok) writes:
>Dave Butcher (D.J.Butcher@newcastle.ac.uk) wrote:
>
>: In article <Bz5uv0.8MJ@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>, papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod) writes:
>: >
>: The Amiga sound runs at a Max of 55.?Khz, its just missing that extra 8 bits. :-(
>: Mind you 8 bits at 55Khz sounds damned good, my hearing may be going but does
>: 16 bits really sound that much better.  Samples on my amiga from my CD machine
>: have had _very_ little discernable difference.
>
>But I thought 8 bit only gave you 256 levels of volume gradation, as
>opposed to 12000 for 16 bit system.  So the quality must be reduced if
>not in terms of sample accuracy then in terms of volume contrast!
>
>Nudd

The quality is reduced a bit, and it is detectable, but it doesn`t seem to be
very noticable.  The biggest problem is that the sampling volume is critcal,
Its hard to get the most use out of the 8 bits, but it can be done, and with
fairly cheap sampling software/hardware.

Dave,
Nb.- Witty Quote goes here.

	D.Butcher@ncl.ac.uk
From: ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: A1200 v Clones - just the figures please
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:08:00 GMT
Organization: University of New Hampshire  -  Durham, NH
NNTP-Posting-Host: kepler.unh.edu

'>I just want to know how many PC Clones there are in the world,
'>broken down by country if possible.

	Who knows really.  The PC magazines usually quote between 80 and 100
   million plus.  A recent survey ( can't remember who did it ) said over
   21 million where sold in 1991.

'>For comparison there are between 4 and 5 million Amigas at the
'>moment. I expect the A1200 to change the picture of home
'>computing radically, but would like to know what the PC
'>'inertia' is.

	I don't know how radical a change it will be in the US, certainly
   Europe seems to like the a1200.  

							Greg Greene
                                                        ggg@kepler.unh.edu


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From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  guns
Date: 15 Dec 1992 06:23:47 GMT
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33

In article <BzAA8s.Ky1@starnine.com> mikeh@starnine.com (Mike Haas) writes:
>>If you're so worried about being attacked, learn karate or something.
>
>Tell that to a 90-year old lady or a handicapped person.

Alright.  Time to add a little levity.  I'm not Dan, but..

I can just see Grandma Sinz burying herself in the far wall as she
fires that big .44 automag, a sinister grin on her twitching face...
The poor old lady.  :)  I guess that's one way to get to the kitchen
sink without your walker, eh?  ;)

Greg
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From: klasmekj@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Kevin J. Klasmeier)
Subject: Re: Advocacy? What do you want for the Amiga?
Keywords: Spam AGA Amiga
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Distribution: world,public
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:21:58 GMT

In article <1gsupqINN3st@flop.ENGR.ORST.EDU> dstuve@storm.CS.ORST.EDU (David Stuve) writes:
>[As I do my yearly check-in to advocacy to see if it's improved
>its intellectual tone from last year's 10-year-old-mentality]
>
>Let's see -- a big thread entitled "AGA software wish list"  ooh, maybe
>there's hope.  What's this?  It's all about large breasts and nursing
>positions?
>
>Nice job folks.  I'm disappointed that .advocacy can't measure up to
>any of its potential.  Perhaps its time we had a comp.sys.amiga.flames
>group where all of our 10-year-old wannabies can have their little fits,
>and others can flame about breasts, guns, Perot, taxes, and MS-DOS machines.
>
>As a Christmas present to me and the rest of the developer community,
>can't we talk about what we like to use our Amigas for, and what
>software/hardware people would like to see for our favorite computer?
>
>Hopefully in the years to come, the users will be happy, developers will
>make money, and we'll all have fun.  That's what really matters, doesn't it?
>
>========================================================================

I agree with you, David. I subscribed to this news group because I have
been hearing so much about the 1200. I came over here from
comp.sys.atari.st to learn about this machine and about the company and
Havn't learned anything (well, to put it simply, my time so far has not
been well spent.). Is there a Newsgroup out there dedicated to learning
about C= (this group taught me what C= means ;^) ) and the Amiga? I find
this group simply a GENERAL Amiga newsgroup...

--Kevin
[Yes, I have an Atari. No, I don't care to argue. I just wish to read
about what C= is doing and what the Amiga has to offer...]
From: chucks@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Erik Funkenbusch)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Future Amiga chipsets
Date: 14 Dec 92 04:05:01 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

The_Invigilator@mad.UUCP (Paul Ayotte) writes:
>Marc N. Barrett (barrett@iastate.edu) wrote:
>: In article <bn.00w5@mndcrme.uoknor.edu> bn@mndcrme.uoknor.edu (Bo Najdrovsky) writes:
>: >    Well, holding breath might be a bit too  much,  but  in  Pasadena, Lew
>: >Eggerbrecht made it quite clear that the chip design has been significantly
>: >expedited.
>: 
>:    I would like to know what has changed all of a sudden to make this at all
>: possible.  According to Commodore's 1992 Annual Report, R&D investments for
>: FY1992 were $25.7 million.  Between 1986 and 1991, R&D investments were much
>: higher, an average of $30 million per year.  Even when Commodore's R&D
>: investments were higher, it took Commodore **SEVEN YEARS** to develop the AGA
>: chipset, which offers significant improvements only in a tiny few areas.  
>: Commodore's investments in R&D are lower now than they have ever been, and yet
>: Commodore's engineers are supposedly going to start cranking out chipsets far
>: more quickly than when funding for R&D at Commodore was far higher.  Again,
>: what has changed all of a sudden that this is possible?
>: 
>: ---
>: | Marc Barrett -MB-  |  email: barrett@iastate.edu
>: --------------------------------------------------
>
>Marc I can't believe in your infinite wisdow that you couldn't come up with
>the one word that explains this... MANAGEMENT.

Not only that, but consider that R&D costs are not just people, it's
equipment.  The equipment used by R&D people is now much cheaper than it used
to be.  Commodore's own computers can now be used for a lot of things, C= is
second sourcing, which gives cheaper production costs in many cases, and after
years of working with the chipsets, it's now much easier for them to do this
than ever before.

Also, Lou Eggebrecht has a good knowledge of how to streamline processes i'm
sure..

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
From: mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst)
Subject: Re: Future Amiga chipset
Organization: Max-Planck-Institut f"ur Radioastronomie
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:17:31 GMT

In <1992Dec16.104723.16805@arbi.Informatik.Uni-Oldenburg.DE> Winfried.Krueger@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Winfried Krueger) writes:

>Don't you read your own articles?

Dear Winnie,

there is a technique called 'reading between the lines'. I'm sure
you can apply that technique here.

Regards,
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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Tandy (Was: Re: Educational Software/CDTV)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 04:12:47 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <ByxLFL.GAJ@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>
  <10237@cbmger.de.so.commodore.com>
  <1992Dec13.005349.25145@qdpii.comp.qdpi.oz.au>

>>>Tandy is EVERYWHERE.
>>
>>Please add: ONLY in USA.

Today I was looking at the VIS machine at a Radio Shack (Tandy) store.
Here's an honest to god conversation:

Me: Pretty neat. What kind of processor does it have?

Salesman: Oh it doesn't need one. Its not a computer.

Hasn't Commodore been down this same path?  I have to admit though,
since it uses Modular Windows, it looks to have a better chance
at success than the other two offerings.

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
From: root@rkamiga.UUCP (Rick Kelly)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:   OS/2 vs Win NT
Distribution: world
Date: 17 Dec 92 13:10:40 EST
Organization: Rick's Amiga

In article <1992Dec16.165556.8329@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA> tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:
>In article <1992Dec16.071842.5859@nmsu.edu> dleland@dante.nmsu.edu (LELAND)
>writes:
>
>>>Microsoft would be developing NT with the processor is mind, not the native
>>>platform. In this respect, the end-user still benefits, but not by virtue
>>>of any benevolence on the part of MS. But who's complaining? :).
>
>>Don't misunderstand me, I'm certainly not going to complain if any major piece
>>of software is written for the Amiga or can run on the Amiga. Getting NT on
>>this platform by one means or another is certainly ok with me. I'm simply
>>not clear on this processor vs native platform bit. The Mac and the Amiga have
>>the same procesor, but you can't run the same software. I'm confused; what
>>do you mean by this? 
>
>Stated more clearly, Windows NT is designed to increase portability among
>platforms by making it less tightly coupled with the architecture of a
>target machine. In this respect, any machine with sufficient processing
>capabilities should be capable of running NT. For instance, if a RISC
>version of the Amiga used an Alpha processor, you would be able to run NT
>and any applications designed for it, provided that you had appropriate
>device drivers for the specific hardware in your machine (display, disk etc.)
>You wouldn't need Corel Draw NT for the Amiga for example, as Corel would
>be developing the program with NT in mind, rather than the specific platform.
>
>In developing for a native platform (Mac, Amiga, PC etc.), you are generally
>designing and implementing applications with the specific OS and hardware
>in mind. While The Mac uses the same processor as the Amiga, the operating
>system is entirely different, making code less portable. NT attempts to
>alleviate this by making the OS a common denominator, at least in theory :). 


What is all this NT crap?

I've never seen such hype over vaporware.

Has Billy Boy promised to make you a prince?

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