From: qzuhair@milton.u.washington.edu (Newton)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: "...... to castrate the Hindus ..."
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:55:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Dec15.185539.14148
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <1992Dec14.201724.26314@udel.edu> godura@dobie.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.055007.13342@u.washington.edu> qzuhair@milton.u.washington.edu (Newton) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec14.044340.22869@udel.edu> godura@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura) writes:
>>>>
>>>of the religion.
>>>The notion that what was written by some wise man hundreds of years ago,
>>>will be valid for all time is foolish.There will be hundreds of muslims
>>                              ^^^^^^^^
>>
>>  I appreciate this provision of  information about hinduism, your 
>>misundertanding of Islam and the "nice" remarks about glorious Quran(see
>>the sentence pointed, below). I was rather expecting an informative reply than
>>the criticism and insults since my posting was simply an inquiry. Even though,
>
>There was no criticism of the Quran in my post. Read it carefully. I, in
>fact, said it was written by a wise man, and was probably relevant in
>the whole when written. What I criticised was the blind stubbornness
>with which islamic societies argue that the every word in the book is
>relevant today, down to the last period.

   Well, I did not criticised your inquiries and the criticism of "blind
stubbornness with which islamic societies argue that every word in the book
is relevant today" and your posing of the questions that why Mulsims are not
following Islam, since they were quite understandable(sp) and appliciable
but the your stance of ridiculing Islam(not its followers). Anyway, let's
forget it. But, your inquiries are surely answerable and unfortunately I
cannot handle them because of my businees with finals.

>>I can give the answers to your questions as related to Islamic rules, I cannot
>
>I would definitely be interested in the answers.
>
>>do it now due to the lack of time. But if i do, I would be "purely" informative
>>Yeah, I touched the topic, but I did not find flaws.
>>
>>BTW, Quran was not written by some "man".
>AHHHHHHHH ! I will not argue about that with you.
>
>Well, was it written by a woman ? !! If not, then I wouldn't like to
>talk about the other alternatives. ;-)

    Well, again there is misundertanding. Quran was surely compiled
and preserved by men, but it does not represent the ideas or writing
of some wise man. It was revealed to a man from Allah. Quranic verses
are exactly the words of Allah and the truth is, that no wordly
book can be compared with Quran as far as the content, the style, the 
sophistication and the power of reasoning is concerned. For me, it is the best
of all and reveals the ultimate truth. I have no intention to convince you,
but that's my belief.


>>>that will cry themselves hoarse that the Quran is the answer to all
>>>problems in society for ever more. But look at it yourself. Are there no
>>>banks in Isalmic countries ? Don't they charge interest ? What is it
>>>that your religion says about inteest? 
>>>Look at the position of women in islamic societies ? Oh they are fine,
>>>you will say. Who's asking you ? I would like a muslim woman to answer
>>>that.
>>
>>
>>--> Do you cut off the hands and ears and balls or whatever of thieves, as
>>                         
>>>is directed in the Quran ?
>>>Look at the middle east. They have an embarrasment of wealth, and they
>>>are still such backward societies. It is because islam is so inflexible
>>>.. or rather, the mullahs who run islamic societies, and bestow upon
>>>themselves the undisputed right to interpret the Quran, are so
>>>inflexible.
>>
>>>-- 
>>>Ruchir Godura | godura@cis.udel.edu | (302) 292-0668 (H) (302) 831-1949 (W)
>
>-- 
>Ruchir Godura | godura@cis.udel.edu | (302) 292-0668 (H) (302) 831-1949 (W)



NEWTON...(sorry saqib, the heading is still there!)