From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
Subject: Re: FOCA: And I quote.....
Organization: USC  Department of Computer Science
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:41:27 GMT

In <17dgvmINN82m@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:

>In article <1992Aug25.132731.14802@menudo.uh.edu> HADCRJAM@admin.uh.edu (MILLER, JIMMY A.) writes:
>>In <17bihuINNp6r@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com> regard@sdd.hp.com writes:
>>
>>> In article <RJOHNSON.92Aug24093847@conus.shell.com> rjohnson@shell.com (Roy Johnson) writes:
>>> >regard@sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard) writes:

>>  I've never understood why Adreinne seems to think that 
>>because a large number
>>of people choose to do something, that makes it okay.


>I've never understood why people who (1) haven't the equipment for the 
>process, and therefore (2) are less likely to understand the process and
>(3) will never face the process always seem to know more than (4) people
>who have the equipment for the process

One reason I have held off replying to some of your mail, Adrienne, is that
it is so hard to see what you are talking about.  For example, does (4)
refer to all the sophisticated self-induced abortion equipment being 
peddled about (as in: "With My Speculum I Am All-Powerful")?  

> (4) 

[let's call this (4*) for future reference] 

>are much more likely to under- 
>stand the process

Could you give a ball-park estimate of what percent of the 1.5 really
know all they would like to know about the process?  (And just so you
don't merely throw this ball back to me, my guess is: less than 10 percent.)

> (5) in fact are closely inculturated in our society with
>an understanding of the process

Gee, what sort of magic osmosis is at work here?

> and (6) actually are, in the instance
>above, FACING the process.

Sure, but how many really know what it is they are facing?

>I haven't said that the fact that a large number of people select option A
>means option A is 'okay' (whatever *that* means).  I have instead said that
>it's probably useful and interesting to discover why a large number of
>people have in fact selected option A.

Why do a large number of people watch sitcoms that have nothing to do
with the behavior of real live people, while ignoring documentaries
(not to be confused with docudramas, nor with "60 minutes")?  Beats me.

>  And I have speculated that it 
>probably *isn't* because they are completely ignorant, worthless, foolish,
>brainless clods.

The last three are clearly false. As for the first, I say they are 
not ignorant, they are
mis/disinformed by and through those doctors [as in: "the abortion decision
is a private matter between a woman and her doctor"] who are 
{Satire}  such pillars of the community, compassionate
benefactors of womankind, paragons of virture {End of Satire} 
ad nauseam, that organizations like NOW will enthusiastically promote their 
services to any vulnerable woman.

>  Heck, you can't even advertise it on TV....

But they can, and do, advertise it in newspapers, yellow pages, and 
magazines.  But of course these beautifully well-informed women are so
ignorant of the existence of yellow page listings that they have to
be protected from THE GAG RULE.

Gimme a break.

Peter Ny.

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