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From: fall217@cse.unl.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Shams Hasan, stop the blasphemy
Date: 3 Jan 1993 23:49:12 GMT
Organization: University of Nebraska--Lincoln	
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 I am sorry that you could not understand the difference in an islamic goverment
or the goverments of past as well as present.  Our Ideals are not baber or Akber
our Ideals are humble and honored companions of the prophet( pbuh).
To belive that islam is spread by soward is some thing which is contradactary
let me tell you 

Mahatma Gandhi says:

" I wanted to know the best of the life of one who holds today undisputed
sway over the heart of millions of mankind..... I became more than ever convenced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life.  It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the 
prophet, the scrupulous regard for pledges,his intence devotion to his friends and followers,his interpidity, his fearlessness,his absolute trust in God,
and in his own mission.  These and not the sword carried every thing before
and surmounted every obstacle."
	"When I close the second volume ( of the prophet's Biography), I was 
sorry there was not for me to read of that great life."

Young India, quoted in The Light, Lahore, for the 16th September, 1924.Mahatma
Gandhi.


I am sure this is more understandable.  If you do or donot please let us know.
with regards
Syed agha saeed 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
From: nd3375@meibm5.cen.uiuc.edu (Nishit Dey)
Subject: Re: Difference
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 23:58:34 GMT

imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu (MUSTAFA IBRAHIM ) writes:

>In article <1hd0r1INNfes@aludra.usc.edu> fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat) writes:


Lot of junks deleted


	Question - What is the difference between Mustafa Idiot and a DONKEY?

	Answer - Hmm.. let me think..  Yeah  Mustafa has a longer tail.

	Hey fafat , you want to add anything?
From: shafqat@neuro.duke.edu (Saad Shafqat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Private Education in Pakistan
Date: 27 Dec 92 17:29:12 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.



As usual, Nadeem, an unqualified pleasure to observe your cordial
tone of argument, :-).  

You have called me an insincere liar.  Very good.  I can say the
same thing about your tales of you and your family being terrorised
by MQM.

You say you cannot reason with a member of the muhajir "race".  Even
better.  What is the muhajir "race" and why am I a member of it ?
Because my father was born in Agra ?  Oh, but wait, my mother
was born in Lahore.  Does that make me Panjabi ?  But no, no,
wait, I have a friend called Chachar.  Does that help ?  Look
sai'N.  I don't argue as a member of any "race" and I think it
is quite petty of you to bring it up.  

You say you find my discussion very frustrating.  Do you think I
relish yours ?  The last time we locked horns, you had made the
[perfectly juvenile] claim that muhajir immigration into Karachi
robbed Sindhis of educational institutions they had made.  I came
back with the response that NED was made by a parsi, Dawood College
and Habib School by memons, Aga Khan University by Ismailis, 
Dow Medical College by the British, Sindh Medical College by
the Federal Government, Baqai Medical College by a "muhajir",
and St. Patrick's and related schools by Christian missionaries.
I then asked you which Sindhi institutions were you talking about.
Remeber your response ?  Let me remind you my level-headed sai'N:
it was nothing but a vat of vitriol.  No substance, just adjectives
attacking me.  You don't know what frustration feels like until
you've argued with you, :-).

You write me off because I supported the MQM.  First of all,
my support was qualified.  I am deeply repulsed by all the
badmashi that MQM did and advocate exemplary punishment for
them.  What I did support was that MQM had started to give
muhajirs ethnic credentials, which had fast become the
only way to get counted in Pakistan.
--
From: ahussain@prism.poly.edu (Arshad Hussain)
Subject: Re: Pakistan
Organization: Polytechnic University, New York
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 93 17:44:35 GMT

Arshad
  How in the earth did you ASSUME that Aftab was against creation of Pakistan?
                                       ^^^^^
Syed
 How in the world did you assume that my reference to the 
 "proponents who oppose the creation of Pakistan" refers to Mr. Javed."
                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^
  ..............[deleted]
  The  more appropriate way of interpreting my statement could be
  that "this problem exists with all people who oppose the creation
  of Pakistan on the basis of Islam.

Well, I do not speak for Aftab or Mr. Javed. I think the issue is NOT the 
creation of Pakistan but whether it was created for Islam( islamic state) 
or muslims of India.  So if someone thinks that  'Islam' is not the movtivation 
behind the struggle of independence, it does not mean she/he is opposing  the
creation of Pakistan.  I think Aftab was discussing this issue.
Xref: sparky soc.culture.pakistan:18668 soc.culture.indian:41744 soc.culture.arabic:5832
From: silatman@hls.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.arabic
Subject: Sufi Dhikr @ Los Altos & Oakland
Date: 22 Dec 92 23:13:17 GMT



        Shaikh Hisham Kebbani is a representative of
     the Naqshbandi Sufi Order of Central Asia, with
     its present headquarters being at Istanbul, Turkey,
     under the guidance of Maulana Shaikh Nazim Adil.

        The Naqshbandi Sufi Order is named after
     a great saint of Bukhara, Central Asia, named
     Hazrat Bahauddin Awais al-Bukhari, a descendent
     of Prophet Muhammad [pbuh]. This saint is famous
     as Shah-e-Naqshband. 

        There were two main branches of this order,
     one spreading towards western Asia, and 
     the other towards the Indian subcontinent.
     Khwaja Baqibillah and Khwaja Mujadid alf at-Thani
     are two of the great saints from this order.
     The Naqshbandi order is within Sharia.

        Dhikr and talks are held on Thursday,
     Friday and Saturday evenings. 

        Thursday evenings > Los Altos Hills, California.

        Friday, Saturday evenings > Masjid Iman, Oakland, Calif.

        For more info: 415-941-7916.


      
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: husaia@aix.rpi.edu (Atiya Husain)
Subject: Ghazal Time...
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:12:24 GMT




			Andha Khwaab
			-------------

shaiher kay goshoN meiN bikhray hoay haiN
paa shikasta sur bureeda khwaab
jin say shaiher waalay bay-khabar haiN

ghoomta hooN shaiher kay goshoN meiN roz-o-shab
kay unn ko jama' kar looN

dil ki bhati meiN tapa'oN 
jiss say
cHut ja'ay puraana mail
unn kay dast-o-paa phir say ubahr a'aiN
chamak utthaiN lab-o-rukhsar-o-gurdan
jaisay no aarasta doolhoN kay dil ki hasrataiN
phir say in khwaaboN ko simt-a-rah milay

"khwaab lay lo khwaab"

subha hotay hi chok meiN ja kar lagaata hoN sadaa

"khwaab asli haiN kay naqli!"
youN parakhtay haiN kay jaisay in say barh kar koi khwaab-daaN nahiN

khwaab gar maiN bhi nahiN
seerat-e-gar saani hooN
haaN magar neri ma'ishat ka sahaara khwaab haiN

shaam ho jaati hay
meiN phir say lagaata hooN sadaa
"muft lay lo muft! ye sonay kay khwaab"

muft sun kar or bhi dar jaatay haiN log
or chupkay say sarak jaatay haiN log
"dekhna ye muft kheta hay koi dhoka na ho"
"aiysa koi shoubda pinhaN na ho
ghar puhanch kar toot ja'aiN ya pighal ja'aiN ye khwaab
bhak say ur ja'aiN kahiN
ya hum par koi seher kar daalaiN ye khwaab
jee nahiN kiss kaam kay
aaisay kabari kay ye khwaab
aisay nabeena kabari kay ye khwaab"

raat ho jaati hay
khwaaboN kay pulanday sar par rakh kar
muNh basooray loTta hooN
raat bhar phir barbraata hooN

"khwaab lay lo khwaab, ye sonay kay khwaab...
khwaab...."					(Noon-Meem-Rashid)



Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: Imran Anwar Opinion + PakistaNews Text Files Until New Year - #0103
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 00:40:23 GMT

imran@panix.com (Imran Anwar) writes:


>Shrine opening helps defuse crisis in India

>AYODHYA,  -- The makeshift Hindu shrine on a Muslim holy
>site forcibly taken over by Hindus from Muslims in Ayodhya
>opened to HINDU worshippers on court orders Saturday,
>helping defuse an emerging national crisis in India.


	YEH HUI NA BAAT .

	HA HA HA HA HA HA



>PAKISTANI PARTY TO SEND FIGHTERS TO INDIAN KASHMIR

>A fundamentalist Islamic party in Pakistani-ruled Kashmir said
>on Saturday it would send thousands of fighters to help a
>separatist revolt in the part of the region ruled by India.
>    A spokesman for the Pakistan-ruled Azad (free) Kashmir
>branch of the Jamaat-i-Islami party told reporters the young
>volunteers would receive six months' military training before
>being sent into the two-thirds of Kashmir under Indian rule.

	AUR BHEJO MARNE KELIYE UNKO .

	HI HI HI HI HI HI 



>BANGLADESHIS START MARCH TO INDIA

>About 25,000 people in predominantly-Moslem Bangladesh
>began marching to India on Saturday to protest against the
>building of a makeshift Hindu temple on the site of a mosque
>razed last month in northern India.


	I FEEL SORRY FOR THE WIVES AND CHILDREN OF THOSE

	25000 BANGLADESHIS .

	HA HA HA HA HA
From: hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Pakistan: The debate is progressing!
Date: 3 Jan 1993 18:19:03 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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In article <1993Jan2.205506@IASTATE.EDU> jakhan@IASTATE.EDU (Javed Ahmed Khan) writes:
>
> hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder):
>
>The only distinction that I see is that the people who oppose the creation of
>Pakistan  and were  demanding   "historical evidence", have now
>started challenging the  "belief system" of the people who brought into
>existence the  Islamic State.
>============================================================================

>
>I think its legitimate to question the "belief system" if it affects the
>destinies of so many people.
>
>Most of the arguments/debates on this net/world involve the questioning of the
>"belief systems" of others, don't they? 

This brings us to the more legitimate question that I have been emphasizing
all along. That is, whether it is fruitful to discuss what  
"could have happen" if Pakistan had not been formed?

If we ARE to discuss the belief systems, then we should start with whether
we BELIEVE that we CAN improve our condition, given whatever is
our heritage. If we believe that we CAN, then it is immaterial what
is in the past. The locus of control TODAY is in us, not in past.

I have been saying all along, that more important to us, our generation,
is NOT what could have happened if Pakistan had NOT been formed,
but what could we MAKE to happen,  given that Pakistan HAS been
formed. 

Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
From: godura@mercury.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura)
Subject: Re: I tell all who make anonymous
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 05:32:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.015708.21665@fuug.fi> an4494@anon.penet.fi writes:
>
< Loads of judgements passed on people >
Dear anonymous de puttar,
How come you didn't mention me ? I'm hurt :-((
As a punishment, I'll send the Collected Works of Wit and Wisdom by
Mustafa Ibrahim and Deepak Bose to you.
<sulk>
Ruchir.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: fmbutt@engage.sps.mot.com (Farooq M. Butt)
Subject: Re: Reply to Mustafa Ibrahim's threats/ abuses.
Organization: Motorola RISC Software, Austin, TX
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 19:16:17 GMT


keechaR kay pehlwaan (aka mud-wrestlers):

now that all of us here on SCP have seen how well you kids know your
foul gaalees, show a little more gumption and MOVE THIS REVOLTING
LITTLE FLAME-WAR TO ALT.FLAME.  Not that I mind you guys screaming
hoarse at each other, but I really could not care less about your
respective opinions of each others' mothers, sisters, countries, dogs, 
animals and excretory orifices.  Please go where you should be on 
Usenet and please stop littering this group, it's quite bad enough
and my Killfile is getting a tad too large for this.  Besides this 
your tirades aren't even amusing any more.

fmb

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UNintentional. These are MY Opinions NOT my employer's.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: an3925@anon.penet.fi
Subject: SALA DEB CHATTERJEE KA G*** ME LATH MARO MERE MUSLIM BHAIO
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.pakistan
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 23:51:01 GMT


BENGALI barking dog hassan@cup.portal.com (hassan monu alam) writes:

>>OTHER DOG THAT DEEPAK BOSEADIKA BARKING AGAIN 
>>APRIL FOOL BABY :-))))))))))  MERE G*** MEN DUM HAI.
>>
>>DEEPAK BOSE KI G*** MEN HAATI KA L*** :-)))))))
>>SALA KUTTEY KI AULAD :))))))))))))
>>
>>HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!
>>
>>MUSTAFA IBRAHIM 
>>
>>imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu
>
>Another demonstration of Mustafa's rapier sharp wit.
>
>Hassan


What know you of wit, you filthy, loud barking pedigreeless, Sonar Bangla dog.
Your sonar Bangla has only soil and water and floods and monsoon.
That why that you the people soooooooo poooooooor. Come to Pakistan to beg.
No food to eat at home. :))))))))))))))))))))))))
We F*** your ass in 1971 by killing 1 million Sonar Bangla dogs and bitches
and we do again if India not intervene. You survive at Pak Army mercy
and now bark like street dog. How funny, so many dogs barking :)))))))

MUSTAFA I.

imustafa@slate.mines.colorado.edu

I. MUSTAFA, THERREFOR I POST. :)))))))))))))))))))))))
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From: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Subject: re: punjabi dialect/langu
Reply-To: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 31 Dec 92 01:11:49 EST

 rzz@po.CWRU.Edu (Reema Z. Zuberi) said:
 RZZ> In his post, Aftab Ahmad bemoans the demise of the Punjabi
 RZZ> language as he knows it.  But I remember a Punjabi friend once
 RZZ> telling me that Punjabi has no alphabet of its own (i.e. it uses
 RZZ> the same alphabets as Urdu).  If that is the case, then,
 RZZ> technically, Punjabi was never really a language in the first
 RZZ> place.  By the way, I am acquainted with Pakistanis who can and do
 RZZ> still speak "pure" Punjabi.

But French, Spanish, English and other European languages share the
same alphabet...  but they are languages in their own right...  a
language is something that a people speak.  Many old languages never
had an alphabet, but (since they were spoken) were most certainly
languages...

Faraz Rabbani

... I multi-task.. I read in the bathroom!
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Subject: re: muslims - first line
Reply-To: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 21 Dec 92 20:57:59 EST

To: hasan@cs.washington.edu (Shams Hasan)

> DB> 1) WHY DO YOU GUYS CHOP-OFF YOUE P*N*S AT ONE END ?????
 > DB> (Funny one !! isn't it ? )
 > DB> (I hope you won't get annoyed )
 >
 >It is called circumcision and it is for hygiene and health purposed
 >(scientifically proven)...
 >
 > DB> 2) WHY DO YOU GUYS MARRY FOUR TIMES IN YOUR LIVES ?????
 >
 > DB> ( LADKION KO RANDI SAMJHA HAI KYA ???)
 >
 >We do not.  It is *possible* but VERY VERY rare and socially scorned
 >under nearly ALL conditions...  it is not even a remotely common
 >phenomenon, and never has been...
 >
 > DB>  I am sorry again but I couldn't help . HI   HI   HI   HI !!!
 > DB>  say my good bye to all your wives !!!!
 > DB>  HAVE FUN WITH ALL FOUR !!!!
 >
 >Typically ignorant. Be ashamed of your "intelligence" or lack thereof.
 >
 >Faraz Rabbani

 SH> I totally understand and can comprehend your motivation behind your
 SH> article, responding to My dearest, Deepak Bose.
 SH> However, what you donot seem to realize is that, My dearest,ie, Deepak
 SH> Bose, is a Indian Hindoo of utmost importance to SCP.
 SH> At UW,  I have been able to gather at least twenty or so people, ie,
 SH> Arab Americans, European Americans, who are benifitting tramendously
 SH> by Deepak's crawl out of the closet most Indian Hindoos live today in
 SH> the west. It is providing important insight into the Indian Hindoo
 SH> mentality, especially after  the tragedy at Babri Mosque.
 SH> As My dearest, ie, Deepak mentions, he has lived all his life in
 SH> India, and is typical of a Indian Hindoo, with his gusto, and
 SH> enthusiasm, has still not developed the skills that most Indian Hindoos
 SH> have to cloak the reality of Hindooism/Nazism.

 SH> I respectfully request you to derail this important, and useful
 SH> opportunity as it has presented itself in the form of my dearest, ie,
 SH> Deepak Bose........ 
 
Very funny!  But his babble may be part of "the reality of
Hindooism/Nazism", but it is not symoblic of the feeling of a Hindu
majority abroad.  Here at the University of Toronto, I have many
Hindu friends, and few share his ignorance.  When I showed them a
printout of his article, they were almost ashamed of being Hindu.

This is the same as non-Muslims viewing all Muslims as "fanatics" (a
bad word <g>) due to the action of some "terrorists" (another bad
word)...

Faraz Rabbani, MsgCo of Karibu BBS (416-531-2188)


... If at first you don't succeed, then skydiving isn't for you
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Subject: re: retirement of the gre
Reply-To: "faraz rabbani" <faraz.rabbani@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 26 Dec 92 17:49:29 EST

To: rizvi@paul.rutgers.edu (HGR)

 Hg> It is really a very bad news for Pakistani nation that MQM's chief
 Hg> Quid-e-Tehres the most sincere, loyal and devoted political leader in
 Hg> the history of Pakistan. 
 Hg>
 Hg> Altaf Hussain is the undisputed leader of more than 12 millions
 Hg> Mohajirs. Now Ms even don't have the right to select their
 Hg> leader.Mohajirs at this time seriously thinking about their future in
 Hg> Pakistan. 
 Hg> I request to Quid-e-Tehreek Altaf Hussain to review his decision.At
 Hg> this cruciae Pakistani nation is looking for his guidance and
 Hg> leadership. 

 What sort of "undisputed leader" would approve of and ask for mass
slaughters of fellow people, mohajirs, in Karachi and Hyderabad.  I
am also a "mohajir".  But I am disgusted by what MQM power did to
Karachi, and with the horrific result they had on inter-ethnic
relations in Pakistan. 

They really messed up the mohajir cause, even though their original
intent (which is what gave them so much blind support) was good.

Faraz Rabbani, a PAKISTANI and a "mohajir" (3rd generation)


... I've used all my sick days. I'm calling in dead!
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: GHANDI
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 21:12:21 GMT

shariq@charlie.usd.edu writes:

>In article <dbose.724716910@khamsin.aem.umn.edu>, dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose) writes:
>>
>>>In <Byy0C3.J0o@dcs.ed.ac.uk> maya@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Mohammed Ayaz) writes:
>>
>>>>Question 
>>
>>>>How many hindus can you get in a mini ?
>>
>>>>Answer
>>
>>>>6, 3 in the back 2 in the front and Ghandi in the ashtray.
>>
>>>>Ha ha ha.
>>>>         ________________________
>>>>        |                        |
>>>> 
>> 	QUESTION :
>>
>>	HOW MANY MUSLIM L*NDS CAN YOU FIND IN A MINI ???
>>
>>
>>	ANSWER :
>>
>>	TWO AND A HALF
>>
>Wrong !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>The correct answer is six. You just asked the same question in a different 
>way.                                          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
^^^^

NO , MY DEAR , IT IS A DIFFERENT QUESTION ASKED IN THE SAME WAY .

THE WORDS ' MUSLIM L*NDS ' MAKE A GREAT DEAL OF DIFFERENCE .

		UNDERSTAND BABY !!


>>
>>	HALF + HALF       IN FRONT
>>
>>	HALF + HALF + HALF    IN THE BACK
>>
>>	______----------------------------------------
>>
>>	PROBABLY HALF MORE IF JINNAH IS ALLOWED
>>
>>	IN THE ASHTRAY .
>>
>        How about that Ganja in the ashtray. He will take lesser space!
			^^^^^^
	
	THAT GANJA IS FORTUNATE NOT TO BE BORN AS A MUSLIM . GOT IT ???

	AND BY THE WAY , IF YOU READ THE QUESTION AGAIN CAREFULLY ,

	IT ASKS FOR  MUSLIM L*NDS ONLY .

>	HA   HA   HA   HA   HA   HA  !!!!!!
>	HO   HO   HO   HO   HO   HO  !!!!!!

>	HI   HI    HI    HI    HI   HI   !!!!!!

>
From: rbc1878@zeus.tamu.edu (CHAUDRY, RIZWAN BASHIR)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Moslems@
Date: 25 Dec 1992 00:59 CST
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Distribution: world
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News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <1992Dec25.045548.24739@fuug.fi>, an3923@anon.penet.fi writes...
-> 
-> 
->I am from Turkey and I noticed that there is something very funny
->about all the world conflicts. ( I am not a practicing moslem)
-> 
->Israel-Palestinian issue ( Moslems Vs Jews)
->Cyprus Problem           ( Moslems Vs Catholics)
->German Ethnic trouble    ( Moslems ( Turks) Vs Germans)
->Bosnian issue            ( Moslems Vs Christians)
->Iraq - Kuwait strife     ( Moslems Vs Moslems)
->Iran - Iraq              ( ditto)
->Iraq Vs Kurds            ( ditto)
->Indian temple issue      ( Moslems Vs Hindus)
->Burmese ethnic problems  ( Moslems Vs Buddhists)
->Malaysian ethnic trouble ( Moslems Vs Chinese)
->Somalian problem         ( Moslems vs Moslems)
->Armenia                  ( Moslems Vs christians)
-> 

Yes you are right but you got it the other way around. Now open up
your eyes and see muslims are supressed every where in the world.
From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.pakistan
Subject: Re: Pakistan
Date: 21 Dec 92 22:05:22 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com

hyder@cs.utexas.edu (Syed Irfan Hyder) writes:

>then dream a better dream, be better than Jinnah, and make 
>it a reality. If Jinnah can do it in 20 years, I am sure 
>you can do it in 10 years!!!! 

It is easier to realize a destructive dream than a constructive
one. To break a country is easier than to bring peace.

Sumitro