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From: wung@eecom.gatech.edu (Peter Wung)
Subject: Re: Most Underrated Actor/Actress
Reply-To: wung@eecom.gatech.edu
Organization: School of EE, Georgia Institute of Technology, Atlanta, GA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 02:09:50 GMT

In article 306@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU, gjh2j@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Im a Joker Im a Smoker Im a Midnight Toker) writes:
>|
>|I am intersted in seeing who people think are the most underrated actor and
>|actress currently working today...
>|
>|
>|Actress- Mary Elizabeth Mastrantonio- without a doubt a fine actress...

I definitely agree, although this category is kind of like asking 
for the best actor and/or actresses, you will get lots of debate.

I also like Amy Madigan, she is just soooo intense!   

>|Actor- A tossup between Gene HAckman and Christopher Walken.

I like James Wood myself.  I saw him in a little cop flick with
Leslie Ann Warren and he was so slimy I wanted to kill the guy.  
He was great.  Although I can't really fault either one of your choices.




>|
>|
>|What's your opinion?
>|
>|Jeff Hawkins
>|Univ. of Virginia



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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: female leads (was: 1992?  It was a bad year....)
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 21:32:30 GMT

In article <iTuRVB5w165w@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca> panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:
>dsy@psych.toronto.edu (Desiree Sy) writes:
>
>> In article <ISBELL.92Dec7103720@panther.ai.mit.edu> isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charle
>> >
>> >In particular, is the consensus that this has been a particualrly bad
>> >year for strong female leads?  
>> 
>> I agree that there was a dearth of strong female leads in 1992.
>> However, I don't think that's particular to this year.  There are
>> very few *good* years for women's roles in films.
>
>How (sadly) true.  And have you noticed that most movies list and 
>advertise two male leads for each female lead?  

"Love Field", which was just released for Academy Award consideration,
is apparently very much Michelle Pfeiffer's movie, and no one else's.

"Passion Fish", the new John Sayles movie also released for Oscar
consideration, features two major women's role, with the male roles
definitely in the background.

Admittedly, these aren't big Hollywood releases, and I have a hard time
expanding the list much further.  Unfortunately, the days when female stars 
typically had their own movies are gone.  There is no star today who is 
quite like Bette Davis, Katherine Hepburn, Joan Crawford, or Greta Garbo.  
It's a sad commentary that Barbra Streisand is probably the closest.  The 
female star tends to flourish more on television, where several hits are 
built around largely female leads or ensembles.

>I tend to think of British movies as less sexist than American ones (this 
>isn't necessarily true) but they're just as bad in the numbers.  And 
>maybe in the content; they just do it another way.

"Enchanted April" is a British counterexample.  It has four excellent
women's leads, and three good supporting male roles.  The upcoming
"Peter's Friends" looks only modestly imbalanced towards the male, from
its trailers and what I've heard.  "Howards End" offered three strong
women's roles (for Emma Thompson, Vanessa Redgrave, and Helena Bonham
Carter) to three strong male roles (for Anthony Hopkins, James Wilby,
and the actor playing Leonard Bast).  The high profile British films of
the year seem reasonably balanced between the sexes.  Mike Leigh also
seems to do a nice job of balancing the male and female roles in his
films.

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		Peter Reiher
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From: corleyj@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (Jason D Corley )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: MST_3K
Date: 12 Dec 92 05:43:58 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona, Tucson

In article <1992Dec11.224205.21514@cs.tulane.edu> ps70awg@rs1.tcs.tulane.edu (mel rupinski) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.211344.5807@infonode.ingr.com> dianne@dianne.b24a.ingr.com (Dianne Ferrans) writes:
>>
>>Forgive my obvious ignorance, but just what IS this?
>>
>>What does MST 3K stand for? I've seen it a couple of times here.
>
>Mystery Science Theater 3000
>One of the best television shows on the air today. . .8^)
>
>One of the best shows on today.

One of??? ONE OF???????????????????????

(blasphemer! ;-)

Come over to alt.tv.mst3k and we'll show you a REAL fan group.
Mwah hahahahahhahahahahahhaaaaaaaa!

"Push the button, Frank."
	----Dr. Clayton Forrester

	Jason
	Southern Arizona Gizmonic Institute
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Subject: Re: Black Holes of Cinema
From: whan@eagle.wesleyan.edu
Date: 19 Dec 92 08:48:11 EST
Organization: Wesleyan University

I think one director who constantly makes movies, none of them good in my
opinion, is Brian DePalma.  Even his so called "acclaimed" movies suck.  Why
doesn't the guy just come up with one original idea.  I think everyone will
agree that Bonfire of the Vanities really sucked as well.  Even The
Untouchables is hopelessly sappy and derivitive, although I did appreciate
Deniro's work in that film.  

Winfield Han
WHAN@eagle.wesleyan.edu

				-Luke Skywalker

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From: walker@Ingres.COM (Lynn Walker)
Subject: movies with older man/younger woman
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Keywords: none
Organization: ASK Computer Systems, Ingres Product Division
Date: 17 Dec 92 20:25:28 GMT

I just saw that the film "Poison Ivy" with Drew Barrymore and Tom Skerritt
just came out. I also remember a TV-movie with Shannon Dougherty and William
Devane that had a similar story. Both films are about Lolita-type romances
(middle aged man with very young woman).

Can anyone give me a capsule review on these two films? Are there any other
films that could be recommended with this theme?

Thanks.
			-- Lynn --

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From: brett@hp-ptp.ptp.hp.com (Brett Hanna)
Date: Thu, 10 Dec 1992 20:40:38 GMT
Subject: ?? Mister Scratch = Devil ??
Organization: HP Pacific Technology Park - Sunnyvale, Ca.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies

	
	First time browser to this bb so let me apologize if this
is common knowledge. I looking for the name of a movie that deals
with an aging grandfather type who manages to trick the grim reaper
(or the devil) into an apple tree and will not let him down, at which
point all death related activity is suspended. Does this ring a bell
with anyone. I believe the gentleman in the tree also went by the 
name "mister scratch"
From: Gleeep@cup.portal.com (Dave - Silon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: DEAD POET'S SOCIETY 2
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 21:45:59 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world
  <BzBsE5.AoG@acsu.buffalo.edu>

>DOES ANYONE KNOW IF HE IS GOING TO MAKE GOOD MORNING VIETNAM 2

Yes.  It will be called 'Good Afternoon, Vietnam!'  The producers
decide that they can't bear to hear his voice before 11 AM and move
his show to lunchtime.

Gleeep
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From: clueless@bradley.edu (Mark Kristie)
Subject: Re: Problems with DieHard 2
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 05:40:15 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
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Phil Abel (pca8c@Virginia.EDU) wrote:
: Even if the planes were painfully low on fuel, they could have
: been rerouted from the Dulles traffic pattern to Washington
: National (maybe 5 minutes away?) or BWI (15 minutes away?).

Only problem is that National (I think thats the one) closed down in the 
beginning of the movie, and all of their flights had to be diverted to 
Dulles...

: I doubt anyone would have the nerve to land a 747 on the dinky
: runway at National, however... And if it screwed up the
: approach, the secret service goofballs on the roof of the white
: house would shoot it down with one of those missiles they keep
: up there. 
Yeah, God forbid those secret service goofballs try to protect the president
or something.... Though if Clinton was in office at the time, I'd say let the
planes crash.... =)

: Not to detract from this spectacular action film, but it is
: notable that you can't simply hold air traffic hostage like
: that. 

:  
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From: il@bambam.u.washington.edu (Il Hwan Oh)
Subject: Re: ALADDIN
Reply-To: iho@cac.washington.edu
Organization: University of Washington, Tacoma
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 18:33:29 GMT

mab7g@Virginia.EDU ("midori meech baer") writes:
> i happened to love aladdin.  disney is my hero.
> 
> actually i was wondering the same thing.  i heard he improvised
> alot so i guess that they had to draw "around" his words.

That doesn't really matter.  Standard practice in animation is to do
the sound first and animate to the audio.

-- 
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From: colint@spider.co.uk (Colin Tinto)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: LIST: CHRISTMAS MOVIES
Date: 14 Dec 92 15:42:52 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.movies
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK


Whats about Disneys Christmas Carol ?

Or doesn't that count :-)


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From: bx573@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alan H. Stein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: School Ties Protagonist?
Date: 12 Dec 1992 05:08:39 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bx573@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Alan H. Stein)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


My daughter wishes to know the name of the protagonist in School Ties,
played by Brandon Fraser. 

I would appreciate an email reply, since I don't usually read this group.

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From: cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: A Few Good Men:a comedy?
Date: 14 Dec 1992 14:35:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


whan@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>I saw A Few Good Men at a free college preview and quite
>frankly I thought that it was hilarious.  Unfortunately, the
>movie fails as a drama but succeeds as a comedy.  The gross
>melodrama and overacting sent me as well as the whole theatre
>into hysterics.  Nicholson was okay but watching and standoff
>between at the end was just ridiculous especially when Tom
>Cruise starts screaming "I want the truth!"  The opening sequence
>when the marines were showing off their rifle twirling skills
>also sent people laughing.  Other people may feel different but
>I left the theatre with a big grin on my face.  If this movie wins
>any Oscars, it would be a gross crime.

Sounds like I should save my pennies for the next Nicholson film
yet to be released, _Hoffa_. I've had pretty high hopes for
the Devito-directed biography. Anybody know what the advanced
word is on it?

Also, what about _Toys_? I heard that director Barry Levinson
wasn't allowing anyone even associated with the film see it until
the last minute. Doesn't sound like a good sign to me...


Mark B. Bendiksen
cb366@freenet.cwru.edu
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From: jlj5a@Virginia.EDU (Joseph Lee Jackson)
Subject: Re: Top Five Movies of All Time (my opinion only)
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:30:51 GMT

1-THE GODFATHER PART I
2-ONCE UPON A TIME IN AMERICA
3-THE CHAMP
4-MALCOLM X
5-SILENCE OF THE LAMBS

-JOEY
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From: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Subject: Re: The Living Daylights (Top 10 movies of all time)
Reply-To: moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (Jeff Meyer)
Organization: The John Fluke Mfg. Co.  /a.k.a. The Gizmonics Institute/
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 06:38:24 GMT

In <LTFXVB7w165w@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca> panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden) writes:

>spandian@nyx.cs.du.edu (Vaisnavi) writes:
>
>> My choice of top 10 movies of all time ( not ordered ) :
>> (10) The living daylights ( Timothy Dalton )
>> 
>This is a favourite of mine too.  Timothy Dalton is sooooooo good and 
>it's the best script, plot and characterization of any Bond film - 
>perhaps of any spy movie.

While I am in complete agreement with Dalton as Bond (God, it was *so* nice
after X years of Roger Moore playing Bond as "On Her Majesty's Secret
Service With A Poker Up His Ass"), and the writing was good (as it was with
LICENCE TO KILL), the film suffered from unimpressive villains (though
Jerome Krabbe is a real favorite of mine in other venues.)

                           "I could feel her smile in my hip pocket."
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From: thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle)
Subject: Re: Jurassix Park <spoilers>
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:48:39 GMT
Organization: Datamark International Ltd.

In article <BD.92Dec15131114@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle) writes:
>>I just hope we don't have to keep watching the mathematician keep on
>>leaping off his death bed to give another 10 minute speech about the
>>latest pseudo-science wanking. (Last year it was virtual reality, this
>>year it's chaos theory.)
>
>Pseudo-science wanking?  If I understand it correctly,
>chaos theory will provide insights into the way almost
>all natural systems work, and I suspect that it's study
>will yield some amazing analytical work.  Certainly
>too soon to call it revolutionary, but it does have that
>potential.

I'm not knocking chaos theory, I'm not knowcking virtual reality. I
won't be knocking nanotech when people start writing stupids books
about it.

I am abusing the tendency of authors to hop on the latest bandwagon
that they read a half page article about in some crappy little
magazine.

Followups should probably go to sci.poseur or somewhere.

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From: panda@Micor.OCUnix.on.ca (Elizabeth Holden)
Subject: Re: 84 Charring Cross
Organization: M.B. Cormier INC.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 07:25:15 EST

gorrindo@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Sue Gorrindo) writes:

> I've been a Bancroft and Hopkins fan for a long time - and this movie
> definately got to me - I highly recommend it to anyone who likes
> "relationship" movies.


I too enjoyed this movies, but I enjoyed the book more.... something was 
lost in translation.

Still, it's delightful, and captures some of the flavour: the enthusiasm 
for ideas and books that make the book so strong.  And that's hard to do 
in a movie.

Namste,
Elizabeth
From: amc01@rrz.Uni-Koeln.DE (Guido Menschingg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Syntax checker for Modula-2 (Sorry, wrong group!!!)
Date: 14 Dec 1992 13:19:26 GMT
Organization: Regional Computing Center, University of Cologne
Distribution: world
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From: hist1261@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Oliver Stone's  THE BIBLE
Date: 17 Dec 92 11:31:32 +1300
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Dec16.205511.29172@Virginia.EDU>, wht3a@Virginia.EDU (William Harmon Thompson) writes:
> No, Jesus couldn't be cast as a present day politically
> correctoid.  PC people generally don't like to be held
> accountable to any standard of moral behavior or believe that
> there are consequences for actions.  Nor do they see too
> straight.  The Christ was unconditionally loving, compassionate
> and fair, but he held no illusions about one's behavior and the
> the consequences it engendered.  He`d insist on moral behavior.

Vote for George Bush did you?  Family Values forever.

Richard.

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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: More Stephen King movies
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 22:56:13 GMT

In article <BzF5zB.1s7@news.udel.edu> ski@bach.udel.edu (The Tominator) writes:
>
>THE DEAD ZONE has to be one of SKs best movies.  Did he direct
>this one?

No, it was directed by David Cronenberg, one of the most innovative
and daring directors in horror films.  ("The Dead Zone" was an 
extremely conventional film, for him.)  The only film Stephen King
has directed was the execrible "Maximum Overdrive".  He himself admits
that this was a terrible film.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

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From: faa@athena.cs.wayne.edu (Felicitas A. Atabong)
Subject: Re: 9 1/2 Weeks
Organization: Wayne State University
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:49:16 GMT

In article <4422@cvbnetPrime.COM> csroc@dime.UUCP (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2) writes:
>>It's simply one of the worst movies in history and it's
>>completely beyond me what people see in it.
>>All it says is that women actually enjoy being raped, and
>
>
>RAPE??????  You mean (Carrie Otis?) was raped?
>I don't think so.  She didn't seem to be forced
>into anything she didn't want in this movie. At
>least that's what I remember.  Anyone else
>recall what was going on?

Carrie Otis?? Is this a discussion about 91/2 weeks or Wild Orchid? I
know both movies have Mickey Rourke in common,but as far as I know
Carrie Otis was in Wild Orchid, and Kim Basinger was in 91/2 weeks.

Feli.
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From: hafner@ifi.unizh.ch (Michel Hafner)
Subject: Re: A review on A FEW GOOD MEN
Organization: University of Zurich, Department of Computer Science
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 13:58:04 GMT

In article <nbg2v9-@rpi.edu> buckmr@vccsouth15.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:
>conrad@brahms.udel.edu (Jon Conrad) writes:
>>Wolfgang Bodison.  He'd been working on the production end, I think as a
>>location scout or maybe organizer sort of thing.  Anyway, Reiner saw him
>>around and asked if he'd ever acted (the answer was no) and if he'd like
>>to be in the movie.
>Yup. He was one of the best things in the movie, to me, by far.
>Pretty amazing he had never done any acting before. But then again, neither had
>Tom Cruise. [Miaow! :-)]

That was Michelle Pfeiffer!!                                                :-)

									M.H.
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Flirting
Keywords: rosebud, thermonuclear, Kennedy
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 19:46:25 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.040536.3134@leland.Stanford.EDU> fafhrd@jessica.stanford.edu (The Old Boy) writes:
>
>Has anyone else seen this movie?  I just caught it the other day, and liked
>it quite a bit.  It's a nice "sweet" romance, but without the 
>"gosh-they're-so-cute-and-goodhearted" kind of attitude, with accompanying
>inevitability of the eventual romance that marks most of the Hollywood
>treatments of this kind of subject that I've seen.  

I liked this film very much, too.  It definitely felt different than
a Hollywood film does, and the characters had the kind of surprises
in them that you get from real people, and don't from most film
characters.

The fellow who directed this film made it as the middle film in a trilogy.
The first film was called "The Year My Voice Broke".  I saw it on cable,
and wasn't impressed.  It starred the young male lead from "Flirting",
when he was a couple of years younger.  The third film will be made in
about two or three years, when he has aged some more.

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From: sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Steve Stelter)
Subject: Re: Most Underrated/Overrated Actor/Actress
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:05:13 GMT

aknowles@expert.expert.com (Anne Knowles) writes:

>How about overrated, too?

>Actor: Most Underated -- Ed Harris
>       Most Overated -- Kevin Costner

>Actress: Most Underated -- Linda Hunt
>         Most Overated -- Can't think of one right now but sure I will

Actor: Most Underrated -- Brion James, Bill Paxton (tie)
       Most Overrated -- Kevin Costner

Actress: Most Underrated -- Charlie Spradling
         Most Overrated -- Madonna, Sharon Stone (tie)


 
                                 --Steve Stelter
                                   sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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