HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Yet another chain question
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 15:59:46 GMT

chrud@oakhill.sps.mot.com (David Chrudimsky (AMCU Circuit Design)) writes:

> The only thing I can think of is that the hollow end is to be
>spread out like a rivet.

Yep, that's it. If you're doing with the chain on the bike, use the
biggest sledgehammer you can find on the backside of the masterlink as a
portable anvil, or you'll pound for hours with no effect. Or if a hammer
& punch isn't sophisticated enough for you, there are special chain
ridviting tools available for about the price of a good o-ring chain.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: rbemben@timewarp.prime.com (Rich Bemben)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Crosswinds
Date: 5 Oct 92 16:31:47 GMT
Expires: 25 Oct 92 05:00:00 GMT
Organization: Computervision Corp., Bedford, Ma.

In article <1992Oct1.195355.6817@island.COM> fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>In article <4857@prcrs.prc.com> terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep28.171413.4342@island.COM>, fester@island.COM (Mike Fester) writes:
>>> 
>>> In short, before you flame someone, I suggest you take an introductory Ornitho-
>>> logical Biophysics course. 
>>> 
>>
>>Ok, how does a buzzard countersteer?
>
>They don't; they get their pet denizen to do that for them.
>


Perhaps you might want to think about this for a second - consider that when
a bird drops one wing it tends to bank in that direction (the same goes for
and aircraft altho' its much easier to use the rudder).  Basically what they
are doing is the aironautical version of countersteering 8-).



Rich Bemben - DoD #0044                     rbemben@timewarp.prime.com
Back in the saddle - BONNE'S ALIVE          (617) 275-1800 x 4173
The street giveth and the street taketh away - Catmother
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From: cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Tripping Signal Lights
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:12:41 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <1992Sep30.151940.1097@elektro.cmhnet.org> root@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith) writes:

>It has to do with whether Leo is in your mid-heaven when you ride over Ed,
>consider:  it is possible to generate a cosmic aura if you ride over Ed
>fast enough, which is stored in the outer valence electrons of the U238
>used to line your muffler bearings; this stored cosmic energy will then
>generate enough of a field to trip any signal light within two blocks!
>I'll bet you didn't realize that!  So there.

and he's not even posting from a .edu site!

obrealthread: i tried the 'lower your centerstand over the grid' trick; it
failed.  several times.  but moving up, turning to the cage behind me,
pointing to the pad and inviting them to tailgate me at 0mph did the job.
first time a cage served a useful purpose (when i wasn't behind the wheel).

ed, get a bike.

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|       DoD# 0598                         [insert witty disclaimer here]   |
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|      3 oz leather      86'  0"    Kevlar               22'  1"           |
|      Cordura Nylon     18'  3"    Denim, 2 year old     4' 0.5"          |
|      1.75 oz leather    4'  4"    2.25 oz suede         4'  3"           |
|      Denim, new         3' 10"    Ballistic Nylon       3' 10"           |
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: greer@sunland.gsfc.nasa.gov (Greg Greer)
Subject: Re: LOST THE KEY
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center
	<1992Oct02.230340.26522@microsoft.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 22:26:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct02.230340.26522@microsoft.com> chrispi@microsoft.com (Chris Pirih) writes:

   I lost the key to my KLR 650 (and much later found it
   again, after I had sold the bike).  So I took the helmet 
   lock to a locksmith and had a key made for it.  Guess
   what.  The ignition key has more switches or whatever
   in it, so the new key didn't work in the ignition.  Fine.
		--- etc ---

When I lost the key to my Kawasaki, a Ninja 750, I took it to a
dealer.  The mechanic picked the helmet lock and removed it -- the
keycode was stamped on the back.  The correct key easily was cut using
the code.  (I was relieved because I was pretty much out of gas too.)

Of course, it's easier to just keep a spare key.

Greg	
'92 Ducati 907ie, in black
----------------
Greg Greer,     August Automation, Inc., Software Developers
301-286-5999    at Code 743, NASA/GSFC, Greenbelt, Md. 20771
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: amir@ms.uky.edu (Amir Sadr)
Subject: Re: starting problem
Keywords: damdifino'
Organization: U of Kentucky, Computer & Mathematical Sciences Division
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 15:55:04 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.172951.16891@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> mdc2@pyuxe.uucp (25493-corrado) writes:
>OK, before I have this sucker hauled off to a motor-medic, I'd like the
>net wisdom on things I can check out.  I have a beast that won't start.
>It's been sitting for a week in cold weather and a heavy rain or two.
>The weather has been cold, but dry for severel days.  The beast cranks,
>but won't start.  I'm thinking fuel problem.  Any hints or things I can
>check myself without any major disassembly.  Thanks in advance.
>

Have you checked your spark plugs?  My 87 CBR1000 would refuse to start
and play, untill I discovered she had two fouled spark plugs.  Like you,
I hadn't started the machine for about two weeks and at first suspected
gummy fuel in the carbs, but was I happy that wasn't the case.  Good luck-

-- 
- Amir Sadr,  Dept. of Computer Science   AMA  ACM    amir@ms.uky.edu  
- University of Kentucky                  DoD  IEEE   amir@UKMA.BITNET
- Lexington,  KY 40506-0027                           [rutgers,uunet]!ukma!amir
--
From: fester@etorofu.island.COM
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Don Nelson
Date: 1 Oct 92 15:24:52 GMT
Organization: Island Graphics, Marin County, California
Originator: fester@etorofu



In the Sept 29 SF Chronicle, there was an article in the sports section on 
Golden State Warriors coach Don Nelson. Apparantly, he decided it would be 
"fun" to learn to ride a motorcycle last year, so he went out an bought a new 
bike (BMW K series, didn't say what model). Also, he bought a Honda Magna for 
one of his coaches so he'd have someone to ride with. 

Well, of course my respect for the Warriors' coach has increased (not that it
was ever low) and the best part of the article was at the end where the writer
stated something to the effect of "So next time you're stuck in traffic on
I-80, be careful before trying something rash to that motorcyclist happily
splitting lanes; it may be the Warriors' coach".

Hey, anything to boost the awareness of our gyroscopically-challenged brethren.

(Now if we could just get Montana to ride...)
Mike

-- 
Disclaimer - I'm only doing what the little voices tell me to do.
From: joe@zx11.cactus.org (Joe Senner)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BMW K100rs & Boxer sound bite
Date: 3 Oct 92 18:22:06 GMT
Reply-To: joe@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

tcora@PICA.ARMY.MIL (Tom Coradeschi <tcora>) writes:
]Are you real sure? I thought that the 4-V Motronic simply brought it back
]up to 90. The 1100 motor is good for 100. W/ catalyst. But I could be
]wrong (gotta happen sometime.) (this hour.)

the spec sheet on the 92 100 I was lookin' at showed 100 before the cat.
it were a BMW spec sheet, if you believe them...

]Nah. I paid <1/2 what your bike cost, and with the exception of this
]tendency to wear out tires on me, I have no complaints (yes, I'm off to
]the dealer for aNOTHER new set of Metzelers tomorrow).

an now I'm gonna hafta buy the 93 k1100rs when it comes out. and I'll
have to get one of the purple r100rs' before they're gone for good too... 
rats...

-- 
Joe Senner                                                 joe@zx11.Cactus.Org
Austin, TX                                                       92 BMW K100RS
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Good press
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 04:23:21 GMT

I just saw about three minutes of air time on the local news about a
local "biker gang" called The Barons. Amazingly enough, it was all
postitive. It seems they've grown up and become, if not actually
respectable, at least responsible. They were in the news because they'd
bought a bar that was a known trouble spot, shut it down, cleaned it up,
and reopened it under a new name. Their claim to fame is an attempt to
clean up a "bad" neighborhood that the city had given up on. The
reporter did attempt to play up the "big, bad bikers" image, but The
Baron's spokesman that she was interviewing looked more like a pencil-
necked computer geek. :-)

-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: More gasohol
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:32:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.185702.20333@tcsi.com> markk@tcs.com (Mark Kromer) writes:
>In article <marcl.717864030@os-d>, marcl@os-d (H. Marc Lewis) writes:
>>neal@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Neal Howard) writes:
>>>>Harley?  Two strokes?   HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA !!!!!
>>>Don't forget the Aermacci's (sp?) True, they were Italian-made, but were sold
>>>as Harleys and H-D owned a major portion of the factory.
>
>>...and they were 4-strokes, not 2.
>
>The Sprint was a 4-stroke single.  The Harley-Aermacci effort also
>produced air and water cooled 2-stroke twins for roadracing.  They
>were actually pretty good.

And air-cooled two-stroke singles for street, "enduro" and MX usage.
In 125, 175, and 250cc.  The 250 MXer was supposed to be pretty
good.  'factory' bikes had twin rear shocks made out of shortened
forks, for more travel.

Didn't Harley also make tiddler two-strokes, like the Hummer?


--
Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black leather.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: drinckes@csl.dl.nec.com (Doug Rinckes)
Subject: Re: Almost got killed - want tougher helmet law!
Organization: NEC America, C & C Software Development Lab
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 21:48:47 GMT

Roar Larsen:
>I was changing the front sprocket (together with the chain and
>rear sprocket of course! - wouldn't want to violate DoD SOP :-)
>and the nut keeping it in place was stuck. I mean really STUCK - it
>was a little bit rusted, and I couldn't budge it with my torque wrench
>(which has a really long arm). I applied some lubricating and loosening
>substance, and thereafter _really_ put my weight into it - whereupon
>the nut suddenly came loose, pitching me forward, to slam my head
>into the (_hard_) left handlebar. Damn near broke my skull!

>I am obviously not capable of properly taking care of myself, so I have
>immediately started lobbying for an extension of our current helmet
>law, namely that "Helmets must be worn by all persons venturing
>closer than 10 feet to a motorcycle". Please support my efforts.

Yea, and verily I too am guilty of head-butting my motorcycle.
Try metal indicator stalks (without indicators).  Unfortunately
here in New Zealand our powers that be assume that since they let 
you travel around at 100kmh you are at least intelligent and
coordinated enough not to injure yourself standing still.

Let us show all the govmints of the world how wrong that is.  I
propose not merely a helmet, but a full flame-retardent suit
and gloves as well. (Wait for exhust headers to cool before
grabbing hold - or at least turn your engine off.)

Ssssssssssss  Whats that funny sound? Ouch!

-- 
Doug Rinckes, Network Administrator
Telecommunications Systems Support Centre New Zealand Ltd  
drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp         | My companys opinions are like
DOD#: 741                          | my companys cars - they don't
1976 BMW R100S + 41mm Dell'Ortos   | like me using either of them.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: mushy bmw r100rbrakes (was Re: Mushy brakes: what happened?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 14:25:00 GMT

In article <JET.92Oct2113603@win30.nas.nasa.gov>,
	 jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend) writes...
>"dbooth" == david booth <dbooth@hpcc01.corp.hp.com> writes:
> 
>dbooth> If there is no air in the lines and the fluid is OK then think
>dbooth> about replacing your brake lines.
> 
>After the free recall-fix on my R100R (bad batch of pads got installed
>on R100Rs at the factory), my brakes went all mushy within a couple of
>days.  (jevans, katrina, chuck, et al will agree).
> 
>Went in yesterday to whine^H^H^H^H^Hcomplain to Cal BMW.  Tim, the
>service manager, spends about 5 minutes fixing it/showing me how to
>fix it (and all for free!).  Was it air? Was it a bad line?
> 
>No.  It seems that the piston sealing ring works *too* well.  As the
>pad wears, the piston should be able to *slowly* move past the gasket
>so that the pads will barely dust the surface of the brakes.  Instead,
>the piston and the rubber get really friendly, and the piston stays in
>the same position (relative to the caliper).    The fix is to pull the
>caliper, gently pump the brakes (to get the pistons out), and put the
>caliper back on the disc and check how the brakes feel.  Repeat until
>brakes feel good.

	Yeah, I figured this must have been what was happening when I was
getting mushy brakes back about June.  My temporary cure was to bungee the
brake-lever back to the throttle-grip overnight.  I think the problem has gone
away now that I changed the fluid.  Turns out the bike is an L model and was
probably over a year old before I even bought it so the fluid would have been
bad already.  My theory is that the new fluid lubricates better so that the
pistons now slide through the rubber seals like they're supposed to.

	In re using Easy-outs to remove broken studs:  I first tried to look
at the fluid in the reservoir using my Swiss Army knife to remove the screws.
Its Phillip driver has different angles to the Japanese cross-heads and I
started to damage the screw, so I stopped.  Then I _couldn't_ get the proper
driver to turn it, further damaging the screw.  So I tried a punch and hammer
and it still wouldn't budge.  Oh well, bring it in to work, requisition an
Easy-out from Central Stores, drill a hole in the screw, insert Easy-out ...
and the bl**dy screw comes out with almost zero effort!  Vibration from the
drill must have loosened it.  I now have two slot-head stainless-steel screws
holding the cap on.  And an Easy-out in the lab toolkit.

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600FL, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley riders are JAGOFFS!!
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:50:45 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <2OCT92085150@fnalc.fnal.gov> krafft@fnalc.fnal.gov writes:
>...
Get a Buell.  Get a life!

If you have to ask why people ride a Harley you would not understand the answer!



--
      Michael L. Johnson
      mlj8e@virginia.edu
From: 85p8379@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: more CHAIN drive(l)
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:51:48 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

High Ho DoDers and Dipsters,

Just when you thought the world was shaft-driven, I have yet another CHAIN 
question.  I went on a nice camping trip a couple of weeks ago, and the ride
included freeway zooming, country road twisties and dirt trails.  Mine is very
much a road bike, so i took it real easy on the dirt.  

About four kilometres into a forest on dirt surface I noticed a rather
disturbing grinding noise coming from the drive train (chain drive).  I put the
bike up on the centre stand, checked the chain tension, and *HOLY SHIT*, it was
so tight I thought the bike would be permanently bent !  Freak me otu !  So,
what did I do ?  Saw a friendly cager passing by, stopped to ask if all was
well, I said it would be if he could lend me a 10 inch shifting spanner for a
few minutes.  He did, and I immediately slackened the chain, adjusted it to
specs and returned the shifter.  Cager departed.  I then whipped out my can of
chain lube, and gave the chain a feed.  All was running smoothly, then, to my
dismay, I noticed that the chain was now MUCH too loose.  Merd !  Theory time.

When riding in dusty conditions (e.g. dirt), chain lube is absorbed by dust
particles.  Somehow, this results in a reduction of available excursion for
each pin bearing in the chain, which collectively causes the chain to shorten
significantly (at least enough to make a well-tensioned chain really tight
under dusty conditions).  As soon as more lube is applied, chain tension )and
hence length) returns to normal.  This is only my own personal theory, I could
be wrong.  Maybe dust/lube goop builds up between sprocket teeth, effectively
increasing inner diameter of sprockets ?  But lubing definitely normalises
things, so I favour the first theory.  

Any comments/flames/shrieks of laughter welcome.  Moral of the story is "keep a
very open eye on your chain when riding on dirt"- you may have to lube it every
few kilometers.  Also, if you notice that your chain has *tightened* since you
last adjusted it, *LUBE* it instead of retensioning it !!  Back to work,

Barry Manor DoD# 621 85p8379@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au sydney australia 
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: K75 counterbalancer? (Was: BMW K100rs)
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 20:19:00 GMT

jsm@rosencrantz.osf.org (John S. Morris) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.134603.15741@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>>Ok, now I'm convinced. But it sure seems weird that BMW put a balancer
>>on the smoother triple, and not on the buzzy four.

>*AND* THE FOUR ISN'T BUZZY!!!!

YES IT IS. (I'm assuming that all caps makes the statement more true.)

>Mine, as well as several others I've ridden are as smooth as butter
>when the revs get up. Sure the K-bike vibrates at 2-3K, enough to blur
>the mirrors - but I don't spend much time there.

Smoother than at low revs, yes, but definitly not _smooth_. The one
thing that really seemed out of place on Ed Hackett's K100RS was the
amount of vibration that was present everywhere. It's a nice bike, but
after 60 miles of buzzing, I was happy to get back on the smooth FJ.
Personally I found the vibration annoying enough that I wouldn't
consider the K100 to be a comfortable long distance ride. But other than
the vibration and power delivery, the FJ and the K100RS felt amazingly
alike from the saddle.

I suppose a lot of it is what you're used to, Ed made similar comments
about it smoothing out at high rpms. Or maybe K100's only vibrate for
me?

>(And yes I've been on FJ's,

Have you ridden a '91 or '92 FJ? The newer, rubber mounted, FJ is very
smooth, but the '90 and earlier FJ's are just as buzzy as the K100.

>R-bikes,

Who ever said R-Beemer's don't vibrate?

>Concourses,

Most of the airports I've been in had concourses that were quite free of
vibration most of the time, though there was the occasional rumble.

>ST1100's, etc. the one's the rags all say 
>don't vibrate.) 

I haven't ridden an ST1100.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: tjohnson@atcc5.prime.com (Tod J Johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: How far do you commute/Cereal for Breakfast
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:17:17 GMT
Reply-To: tjohnson@atc1.UUCP (Tod J Johnson)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

All;

	This thread is fascinating. I mean some guy commutes 6 miles, and
then the next guy commutes 24!!! Unbelievable!! My favorite so far was the
guy who could commute 13 miles if he chose one route, and then 15 if he
chose the other route!!! I mean wow!!! 13 or 15 miles!!! Hey this would
really blow my mind; does anyone commute 21 miles???? I don't even want
to know. That would really knock me off my seat. I couldn't handle it. I'm
talking a coma here folks. Let's hear some more.

Just Fascinated;

Tod J. Johnson
DoD #883
"Go Slow, Take Geritol, Not 21 miles Please, I can't take it"

P.S. Does anyone eat Cereal for Breakfast besides me?? I think people
would like to know. Reply soon, and often!!!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Experience with SLICK 50
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:16:51 GMT

rogerc@discovery.uk.sun.com (Roger Collier) writes:
>Referring to Pasternak's How It Works articles (David Svoboda) writes:

>>teflon in the S50 should clog them, then the harmonic vibration set up by the engine
>>will be effectively damped and prevent the magnetic eddy currents from turning your 
>>disks and moving the motorcycle forward.  Beware.

>I don't know what this guy is on but I want some of it!

There seem to be a lot of new faces on the net lately, and there's also
been some clamor demanding more technical content in the group, is it
time for a repost of Henry's masterful technical dissertation?
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
From: gn@cray.com (Gary L. Nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Mounting radar detectors on bikes
Date: 30 Sep 92 20:41:22 GMT
Reply-To: gn@cray.com
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

Dennis Kirk sells an adjustable mounting unit for radar detectors
that mounts on the handlebars. Sells for about 20 bucks. 

I mount my Passport on a unit attached to the bars. It's not the
Kirk unit, which appears to be more adjustable than mine, but it
works well.

Gary