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From: mitch@lsil.com (Mitch Sako)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush is such a bad loser
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:04:23 GMT
Reply-To: mitch@lsil.com
Organization: LSI Computing Systems

In article 8684@RedBrick.COM, jfr@RedBrick.COM () writes:
>In article <1992Nov9.184245.3984@lsil.com> mitch@lsil.com writes:
>>In article 14586@EE.Stanford.EDU, budd@playfair.Stanford.EDU (David Budd) writes:
>>You make it sound like this was a one-way ugly campaign.  It was not.
>>Herschensohn did not even give a concession speech until the next day
>>and when he did he was especially bitter.  He knew it was over at about
>>8:01PM when the exit poll results were announced, however he failed to
>>give a concession speech that night.  No class.
>  As a former Los Angelean (until April '92), I have listened to 
>  Herschensohn for about 10 years on the KABC Radio Ken and Barkley
>  show in the morning where, except for his brief failed campaigns
>  for office (this is his third), he is the 8:25 am conservative
>  commentator.  Bruce is a real arrogant pompous ass, IMHO.  He
>  allows for no compromise, no open discussion and no room for
>  differences.  

I'm glad to hear from someone who knows how he really is.  I don't care
if the man likes pornography, even Clarence does.  I bet that even Limbo
himself does too.  His views, while apparently extremely hypocritical, are
just plain scary.

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From: ae749@yfn.ysu.edu (Paul Hoskins)
Subject: Re: This is OUTRAGEOUS...
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 05:29:35 GMT


A very good idea....except that I would suggest that you take a 
look at Robert A. Heinlien's book StarShip Trooper.  He presents
a system in which it is NOT compulsury to serve...but if you were
NOT a vetern...then you could not vote!!  If you didn't serve your
country, then you have no say in how the country was run!!  Think
about it....if you were sufficently motivated to put your LIFE on
the line...then you could open your mouth...otherwise shutup and
let the people who CARE take care of things!!  Just an idea.....

                        Later=====>Paul Hoskins<=== 8^) 
                                usr1390a@tso.uc.edu
                                 ae49@yfn.ysu.edu
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 13:30:18 EST
From: <ADB103@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Rush Joins The Doomsday Crowd

THE SKY IS FALLING THE SKY IS FALLING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: johnt@meaddata.com (John Townsend)
Subject: Re: I should know better than to talk to a limbot
Organization: Mead Data Central, Dayton OH
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:57:16 GMT

In article <20NOV199210215822@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu>, mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov20.143621.15194@meaddata.com>, 
|> johnt@meaddata.com (John Townsend) writes...
|> 
|> >|> the other stuff deleted, but I presume that John Townsend has cleared it 
|> >|> with his bosses to publish his company's product so freely...
|> > 
|> >My, my.  Awfully ignorant of copyright law, aren't we?  My message quoted an
|> >extract of the _Boston Globe_, complete with references.  Never written a book
|> >report, eh?  It shows.
|> 
|> Seems to me you said you got it from Lexus/Nexus, which, I presume, pays 
|> fees to its sources for its material, or at least charges its users to 
|> retrieve that information, which you are in a position to distribute for 
|> free.
|> 
|> And when *you* write book reports, do you quote the entire book?  Anyway, I 
|> don't write book reports any more, just e.mail <g>

Teach me more!  More!  Don't stop now!  Your sheer ignorance of copyright law
is providing untold amusement all over the world!

P.S.  That's Lexis/Nexis (TM)(R), to you, kiddo.
P.P.S.  Yes, folks, I'm distributing Lexis/Nexis for free.  Anybody else want a
        few hundred billion mail messages?  Or should I post?  I'm tempted.
P.P.P.S.  That was NOT the entire article, just a trivial excerpt of my research
          for your 30-second soundbite mind.  Like I said.
P.P.P.P.S.  Have fun at recess!

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From: crosmun@crosmun.rtp.dg.com (William Crosmun)
Subject: Re: I believe in Music ... Re: Summary Tue 11/17/92
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 15:21:28 GMT
Distribution: world,usa,alt,na
Organization: Data General Corporation, RTP, NC.
Keywords: Unofficial Summary Rush Limbaugh

In article <7132@news.duke.edu> eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:
>jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
>=Unofficial Summary of the Rush Limbaugh Show
>=for Tuesday, November 17, 1992
>=by John Switzer
>=
>=o       ABC News reports that two researchers have concluded that
>=listening to country-western music "tends to promote suicidal
>=tendencies." Stephen Stack of Wayne State University and Jim
>=Gunlock of Auburn examined data from 49 cities and found that the
>=higher the percentage of country western music played on the
>=radio, the higher the incidence of suicide among caucasians.
>=
>=Gunlock says that the fact that blacks don't listen to CW music
>=tends to indicate that it is the music which is the contributing
>=factor. He added that most people underestimate how much their
>=environment influences their behavior, and he pointed to "how one
>=of the leading factors in country western music is sadness."

You know, the great liberal "approach" to education in this country is that
we don't want students to memorize useless facts, we want them to learn to
think.  How well has this worked in practice, ie how well do products of this
education process actually think?  Here we have two "researchers", presumably
educated, claiming that higher incidence of suicide is correlated with the
playing of country/western music.  Therefore, they conclude, country/western
music causes suicide.  Perhaps, while they were learning to think, they forgot
to learn the "correlation implies causation" fallacy.  One of these researcher
claims that "blacks don't listen to CW music".  Maybe he forgot about the
"sweeping generalization" fallacy.  Another sweeping generalizaton: "one of
the leading factors in country music is sadness".  All in all, we may want to
reconsider the strict memorization approach to education.  




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 question, let the controlling aim and ambition be to keep the road open for
 private enterprise and personal initiative."

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             Woodrow Wilson  

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From: grendel@camelot.bradley.edu (Alyosha Bourgea)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Limbaugh Watch - Day 17
Date: 20 Nov 92 16:31:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bradley University

In <7201@news.duke.edu> eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) writes:

>session@seq.uncwil.edu (Zack C. Sessions) writes:
>%jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer) writes:
>%
>%>It's now 17 days after Bill Clinton's election and Rush is still on the 
>%>air with 536 radio affiliates and 207 TV affiliates, and his book is 
>%>number one on the NY Times hardback non-fiction best-seller lists.
>%
>%Huh? So what? What has this got to do with the price of eggs in China?

>That means that the price of eggs will be CHEEP!!!
>[Sorry about the yolk. Guess I got egg on my face for that one.]

>[Just smile. It's good for you.]

Just don't anybody egg this dumb cluck on.  His brains are scrambled and
fried.  He thinks he's writing poultry.  He thinks he could play Omelet
by Shakespeare.  But really he's just soft-boiled.

(better duck)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: jpsb@gothamcity.jsc.nasa.gov (Jim Shirreffs)
Subject: Re: Gay Marriages?
Keywords: marriage, 14th Amendment, gays, lesbians
Organization: Software Technology Branch - NASA/JSC
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 01:57:58 GMT

The constraints you place on commenting are to broad, you have reduced marrage to simply 
living together and joint tax returns. If that is all marrage is then there is only one 
reason i can think of to prohibit homo-sexual marriages.  Adoption.

jim shirreffs

i speak for myself and myself only!
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From: tip@lead.aichem.arizona.edu (Tom Perigrin)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush
Subject: Re: Democratic Whiners Can't Take It
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:36:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

In article <1992Nov21.055944.8009@galileo.physics.arizona.edu> krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:

> How would the normal, heterosexual >male react to a shower full of nude 
> women?  I expect that the normal homosexual male would react in the 
> same manner in response to a shower full of nude men.

Well, I don't know about you, but I generally find mass nudity rather 
boring after a few moments.  I find I get turned on by one on one consenting
sensuality.   When I lived by the ocean, I found nude beaches to be nice 
because they were less crowded.  But I didn't run around with a rampaging 
erection and didn't hop on top of all the women in sight.   Of course
some men are disgusting animals and aren't civilized.  But should we allow
criminals to dictate the behavior of the rest of us? Nope - we should set 
standards, and then punish people when they violate those standards.

I have generally found that most people rise or sink to meet the level of 
performance expected of them.
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From: howiegbk@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Jr Howard Mea Turner)
Subject:  not all white males are rich and wealthy
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 20:29:47 GMT

In article <17NOV199213391854@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu> mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell) writes:
>For example, Tuesday I caught just a snippet of his act wherein he repeated 
>his oft-spoken belief that people should not cluster in groups to demand 
>that rights (his words, mine would be 'equality of rights') be accorded 
>those groups.  thEwIndBag's contention is that people should remain as 
>individuals and succeed or fail through individual efforts.
>
>Ahem.
>
>This is exactly what one would expect from a white male, someone who has to 
>have described to him what it's like to be discriminated against *as a 
>group,* else he'd never have a clue.  The reason for folks to band together 
>by gender, or by color, or by sexual orientation to ask for equality of 
>rights is precisely because they are denied that equality simply on the 
>basis of those things that bring them together as a group.
>
>One would only expect a white male like thEwIndBag to encourge people not 
>to band together to cure what they see as injustice against them.  Simply 
>because he knows that, as individuals, they are as powerless as they ever 
>were and that only by working together can they ever hope to right some of 
>society's injustices toward them.
>+ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - 
>| Elliott Mitchell
>|  Peabody College at Vanderbilt University
>|  Nashville, Tenn. Home of the Grand Ole Opry
>|  IN: mitcheec@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu | BN: MITCHEEC@VUCTRVAX


By inferring that all white males wish to be oppressive and hold down
other ethnic, religious, non-heterosexual person, you detract from
your argument.  You have committed the same mistake.

I am a white male.  And I am not upper-class, or even upper-middle-class
in terms of my wealth.  And what I think sucks is this:

	Scholarship money that should be earmarked for worthy students is
instead earmarked for minority students.  Not to say that these students
are not worthy, but if they get preferential treatment in scholarship funds,
isn't that the same as me being discriminated against?

	Make it fair, make it even, make it right.
	But don't make it a quota.

	Earn it, don't accept it.


Howard

P.S.  Thanks to all of the people who responded to my previous postings
politely and intelligently.  I appreciated the discourse.


Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: snodgras@lclark.edu (Bil Snodgrass)
Subject: Re: Not in a Rush to see Rush anymore
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 08:26:10 GMT

In article <1en3icINNl4q@agate.berkeley.edu> don@ocf.berkeley.edu (Don Bromley) writes:
>In article <1992Nov22.032626.10475@math.ucla.edu> pugh@pico.math.ucla.edu (David Pugh) writes:
>>Well, I used to be a fan of Rush but now that Clinton has won
>>and Rush has started this TV show, I can only say the following:
>>
>> Rush is BORING, PATHETIC and REDUNDANT.
>
>  That's why he has the #1 radio show, top 5 syndicated TV show, and a
>  best-selling book?  I'd like to be that boring.
>
>>
>>He won't last ya know.
>
>  How many years has he been in the radio business now?  I think 
>  people said that about him in '88, they were wrong too...
>
>>
>>David (the AntiRusht)
>>
>>--
>>|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|
>>   David Pugh,  UCLA,  CA         |     Hot Dog, Jumping Frog
>>   pugh@math.ucla.edu             |     Albuquerque  -  Prefab Sprout
>>|-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-|
>
>  Ahah... a UCLA student... that explains everything.


Funny, but I seem to remember them saying a year ago that the democrates
didn't have a snowballs chance in hell to win the presidential election
in '92.........
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
From: patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey)
Subject: Re: ATTENTION!!!
Summary: Oh, where could he be?  :-) 
Organization: Rice 27, Navy 22 -- next victim:  UH 
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 17:08:42 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.183248.1199@coopsol.com> gordons@coopsol.com (Gordon Storga) writes:
><Bxyxpu.Enp@rice.edu> patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) said:
>><1992Nov19.051133.13260@netcom.com> gordons@netcom.com (Gordon Storga) writes:
>>><BxI8IG.873@rice.edu> patrick@is.rice.edu (Patrick L Humphrey) writes:
>...
>>>Geez, is Chaney still talking about taking over the government, like the
>>>peaceful pro-lifer that he is?
>>
>>Of course.  Do you expect the leopard to change his spots? :-)  (Of course,
>>that's assuming he's even participating on Usenet any more -- he seems to
>>have been quiet lately.  I wonder why? :-)
>
>Remind me to never threaten you, Patrick.  The last two people to do so
>have mysteriously disappeared from the net, their net.bodies yet to be
>found <insert malevolent laughter>.

Curious coincidence, isn't it?  :-)  (Stevedennis is still around at
csus.edu, though -- but he apparently has either had his posting privileges
removed, or at least curtailed a bit.) 

>>>I was in Egghead the other day and I thought of Chaney...  needless to say
>>>I didn't buy anything.
>>
>>I can go you one better -- there are two Egghead locations here in Houston,
>>and the last time I visited either one of them was last summer.  Needless to
>>say, with what I know now, I won't be returning any time soon.
>
>Actually, I don't hold it against Egghead.  I don't buy from them very
>often because they are high-priced.

I found that out the day Egghead opened their first Houston location:  the
first thing I saw when I walked in was ProComm Plus 2, at a *sale* price
$10 higher than I could find it at CompUSA.  End of that trip...but the junk
mail they send me has done nothing to counter that first impression.

>>--PLH, thanking the applicable deities for CompUSA...
>
>Agreed.  Actually the Eggheads around here have a policy of beating any
>other store's price on the same item by $1.  So the thing to do is to
>check around and then go to Egghead with the lower price.  I've done it
>several times now and it's great.  Usually there are 3 or 4 other people
>standing around listening to the exchange.  I've had a couple of people
>buy the same item because they heard the lower price.  I figure it cuts
>into their margins greatly since they are not set up to deal with the
>lower prices.
>
Hey, any bunch that hires such paragons of humanity as Stevedennis
Chaneyhall deserves to put forth a little effort to *earn* their money...:-)

--PLH, also glad he's not in Sacramento.  (Thanksgiving *is* this week,
after all. :_)


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From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Subject: Re: thEwIndBag bashes Rev. Jackson, again
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:54:30 GMT

In article <19NOV199211484948@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu> mitcheec@ctrvx1.vanderbilt.edu (Elliott Mitchell) writes:
>
>me again.  Please notice that I am playing along with thEwIndBag's fantasy 
>that he is "broadcasting from high atop the EIB building."  He isn't, he 
>rents studio space from WABC but don't tell the limbots, OK?

More liberal condescension here - this guy actually thinks he is so 
much smarter than the rest of the world that *he* can figure out 
there is really not a separate EIB Building right next to Madison 
Square Garden, which is one of the most expensive pieces of real estate
in the US. Everyone else, of course, is a total idiot and can't seem
in the humor in Rush's remarks. 

It must be really fun to actually think you are indeed so much more
intelligent than everyone else, leading you to believe that anyone 
who disagrees with you (and agrees with Rush) is a "limbot" who is incapable
of independent thought. I have to wonder, though, at how insecure
people have to be to really believe this. 
-- 
John Switzer               | "Lobbyists are circling Clinton like slugs
                           | around a saucer of beer."
CompuServe: 74076,1250     | -- Alexander Cockburn, LA Times 11/15/92
Internet: jrs@netcom.com   | (P.S. Impeach Clinton, support the coup!)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,alt.rush-limbaugh
From: shapiro@cfsctc.enet.dec.com (Steve Shapiro)
Subject: Re: The quintessential dittohead!
Organisation: SKS Computer Consulting, Inc.
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - Marlboro, MA
Date: 16 NOV 92 09:36:54 EST


In article <1992Nov13.180732.1303@dbsun.uucp>, hulsey@dbsun.uucp (hulsey)
writes...

>After all, Rush knows everything, and he's always right, right?

Nope. 

Only 98.1 % of the time.

Sorry to disappoint you.

Regards,
Steve.

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From: rchabot@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert J Chabot)
Subject: Re: Al Gore -VP Curse strkes again?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:27:42 GMT

>
>>|>
>
>    Oh?  And just who was he attacking? His tone certainly sounded
>as if he was meaning to point a wagging finger at someone.
>    It is funny to me that conservatives will point fingers at
>fictional characters, instead of admitting what really killed their
>idea of the "traditional family".

Please illustrate other examples of conservatives pointing fingers at fictional
characters.  The statement aappears to be a "generalization."

 What killed the 50's style family
>was the increased amount of choice that has been given to women in
>areas ranging from careers, to family choices, to reproductive
>choices.
>    When women (I should say white, middle-class women, because
>poor and black women have almost always worked) left the kitchen for
>the work force the family was never going to be the same. And the 50's
>attempt to force women who had tasted independence back into the
>kitchen didn't work.  Nowaday's a woman doesn't HAVE to depend on a
>man for anything - food, shelter, even to have children (thanks to the
>advent of sperm banks).  So what incentive does the traditional family
>offer? And how can we entice women back into this fold?

1) Just *how* did the 50s "attempt to force" women into the kitchen???  The 50s
were a period of relative prosperity, esp. in the U.S.  If women were
returning to "the kitchen", it was in response to the *economic* context--not
to the "50s attempt to force women into the kitchen."

2) I agree that women do not need to depend on men for shelter, food, etc.
HOWEVER--men need women for certain things AND vice-versa.  The traditional
family offers the truest, best source of "ethics" education, a place of
nurturing, a place of emotional stability.  I AM NOT SAYING NOR INFERRING
SINGLE PARENT HOUSEHOLDS DO NOT OFFER THESE THINGS. I do suggest, however, that
there is strong correlation between the breakdown of the traditional family
unit and certain societal ills experienced by the U.S. today (e.g. teen
pregnancies, etc.)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: htuttle@nyx.cs.du.edu (Harry Tuttle)
Subject: Re:  New details on our first lady!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 18:18:59 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.221203.14538@news.stolaf.edu> kamilewi@lars.acc-adm
n.stolaf.edu (Alex Kamilewicz) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.183910.18659@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> htuttle@nyx.cs.d
.edu (Harry Tuttle) writes:
>>
>>
>>In a previous article, Larry Henson writes:
>>
>>[wonderfully witty and politically savvy material deleted]
>>
>>Gee, Larry.  It took three of you to write that?  Wow.
>>And you are only in high school?  Wow again.
>>
>>Well, I guess even 16-year olds can have a complete lack of 
>>comprehension and understanding of the issues.
>>
>>Hey, I hate him, but at least Rush is funny. I can't believe that
>>you would waste all of that time and disk space to write something
>>that trite and ridiculous.
>>
>>Kid, it wasn't political satire.  It was drivel.
>>
>>Oh well, what can you expect from a high schooler?                  
>> 
>>Go back to the mall.
>>
>>"We're all in this together."
>>Harry Tuttle
>>                   
>
>Well, that accomplished a lot.  I think you really made a constructive
>criticism on them.  Really convinced me.
>
>Ever thought of using intelligence in your arguments?  Stop writing just
>to inflate your ego, will you?
>
>Alex
>
>



You know, I _would_ use facts and issues, but there always seems to
be some trigger-happy flamer out there who likes to inflate my ego even
more.  

Now stop whining, Alex, or I shall taunt you a second time. :)

Harry "Ego as big as Rush's girth" Tuttle



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