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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 92 14:27:18 CST
From:         Greg <GGOLDSTE@UA1VM.UA.EDU>
Subject:      1540 cd rom driver
              Mounting CDROMS with Adaptec SCSI 1540
To:           Kirby <kkoster@ub.b.umn.edu>

Hi,
I have just found that the correct driver is sold by Adaptec as ASW-410 for
$59. You can not use ASW-1410 as I thought in the past. Adaptec is comming out
with a new driver called Easy SCSI (no pricing or upgrade info available.)
You can get drivers direct from company by calling 1800-442-7274.
I found all that info and more on their BBS at (408)945-7727. It contains every
thing but the drivers themselves which I really think should be provied if you
know how to get them without help(download via BBS).  On the BBS they provide a
procedure for upgrading old drivers by downloading an upgrade program that chec
ks for them (you may never even have to wait on hold to talk to a tech operator
 who will take your name & put you on a waiting list ...) and then creates the
new version.

Hope this helps.

Is Adaptec listening. Unless your a developer your going to need a driver so wh
y is it so bad to assume that you may get one  when you shell out the bucks for
a  ard and the retailer tells you its' everything you need.
The least adaptec could to is educate their resalers and qualify them to sale t
he product.

Greg Goldstein               University of Alabama
ggoldste@ua1vm.ua.edu        (thats in Tuscaloosa)
ggoldste@ua1vm.bitnet  School of Library and Information Studies
              "Information Is Power"

This life is a test. It is only a test. If it had been a real life you
would have been given instructions .....
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From:         Howard Pasternack <BLIPS15@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: external users (fwd

Our computing center has had a problem with non-local users and they have
recently adopted a program of requiring all users to put their id cards in
a slot visible at the top of each PC.  Someone can then eyeball the
ids and ask those without a posted id to either produce one or to leave.
The biggest problem seems to be ids which people forget and leave in the
slots.

Howard Pasternack
Brown University
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Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 1992 12:11:27 EST
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From:         "Wendall Sullivan, Rush Univ. Library,
              Chicago" <WENDALL@RUSHVM.BITNET>
Subject:      CDPlus and Meridian Data

I'm hoping that people on these lists could help me with some
information.  We're thinking of getting some version of CDPlus
for our institution and we need to know if anyone out there is
using CDPlus on any local area network OTHER THAN a Novell network.
We'd be particularly interested in anything like a AT&T StarLAN or
any other type of NetBIOS network.  We're interested in finding out
how hard it was to get working, what sorts of problems people ran
into, etc.

Any information on this would be very helpful.

*********************************************************

Wendall Sullivan
Coordinator of User Education
Library of Rush University
600 South Paulina
Chicago IL 60612

BITNET: wendall@rushvm
INTERNET:  wendall%rushvm.bitnet@uicvm.uic.edu **OR**
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:53:14 +0200
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From:         Teo Kirkinen <kirkinen@CC.HELSINKI.FI>
Subject:      Re: CD drive cases
              "CHUCK@CHES.CS.VIMS.EDU" at Nov 19, 92 08:16:01 am

> Is there a company which manufactures/sells cases which hold, supply
> power to, and vent 8 or more CD drives, without also housing a
> processor?  That is, can you buy a CD case as a peripheral, not as a
> server?

We use Hewlett-Packard's external mass storage units. They are very
heavily build, have a big power supply and good ventilation. They
hold (only?) 7 CD-ROMs.

The retail price is a little high but the educational discount
is quite good. The fixing brackets for the drives are non-standard.

Teo K.
From: ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM
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Subject: RE: Connecting Macs to a
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:49:49 GMT
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>As I'm only on #175 out of 465 mail messages which came in while I was out
these >last few weeks, I'm not sure if any one else has answered your
question on the >ability for Macs to access a CD-server yet. ...

This week at the COMDEX show in Las Vegas Micro Design is annoucing support
for MAC CD-ROMS (ISO-9660) through their standard SCSI Express for NetWare
product.

With a Novell file server running SCSI Express you can now have DOS, OS/2,
UNIX, and MAC workstations all accessing CD-ROMs located on the server.
For more information contact our sales office at 407-677-8333.

- Arnold Jones
arnold@microdes.mhs.compuserve.com
Micro Design International, Inc.
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Date:         Tue, 17 Nov 1992 08:40:06 -0600
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From:         "Thomas C. Wilson" <LIB4@JETSON.UH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Connecting Macs to a cd-rom server

In response to the following posting:

>From: Dale - InfoServer Marketing Manager - 223-4178 <rensing@EMDS.ENET.DEC.COM
   >
>Subject: RE: Connecting Macs to a cd-rom server
>
>As I'm only on #175 out of 465 mail messages which came in while I was out
>these last few weeks, I'm not sure if any one else has answered your question
>on the ability for Macs to access a CD-server yet.  So I'll just offer this;
>the InfoServer 150 from Digital now supports access directly from Macintosh
>systems as well as VAX, ULTRIX, PATHWORKS, Novell, and other DOS systems.
>All that's needed is the purchase of the Macintosh client kit which installs
>on your Mac system and enables that system to recognize data coming over
>from the InfoServer.
>
>This is actually quite an interesting way of offering Mac access.  You'd be
>using the same CD-readers that are attached to the server to serve Mac-format
>CDs as well as DOS or other format CDs.  No need to purchase different
>types of drives or drivers.  I've played around quite a bit with the Mac
>client software, and it's got all those wonderful Macintosh characteristics,
>simplicity, point and click, pictures, etc.
>
>Regards,
>Dale Rensing

I'd just like to clarify for anyone who might be wondering...the
InfoServer solution does indeed allow multiple types of CD-ROMs
to be served from the same box.  But it does *not* allow a Mac
user to search a DOS CD-ROM product or a VMS client to
search a Mac product.  For that type of service you must provide
native processors, either physical or virtual.

Tom Wilson
University of Houston Libraries
LIB4@jetson.uh.edu
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Date:         Wed, 18 Nov 1992 22:00:27 EST
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Subject: RE: Connecting Macs
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:12:52 GMT
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>Re: the new capabilities of the latest SCSI Express product being shown:
>
>Just wondering--Does this imply that an MS-DOS user running
SilverPlatter's >search interface for MS-DOS and a Mac user running the
SilverPlatter search >interface for Macs can access the -same- disk? ...

Yes.

Also if you have a DOS CD-ROM that does not have a MAC search interface, it
can still be used on a MAC by using a MAC DOS emulator to run the DOS
search program on the MAC .

- Arnold Jones
Micro Design International, Inc.
arnold@microdes.mhs.compuserve.com
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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 12:04:41 -0700
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From:         solrccc@GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU
Subject:      Re: external users (fwd)

>Does anyone have any ideas on how to prevent external users
>(ie non-members of the University) using networked CDs? Our library is open to
>the general public, but their use of some of our CDs would appear to
>contravene our academic discount licences.

At Southern we have a short message that comes up on choosing an option
from the menu.  The message states what the database is and who it's for.
If non-university users go past this point in loading the software, they do
so illegally.  Although I don't monitor this activity, perhaps we deter a
few unwanted users.
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Cheryl M. Claiborne                            912-681-5269
Learning Resources Center                      solrccc@gsvms2.cc.gasou.edu
Georgia Southern University
Statesboro, GA  30460-8074
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From:         ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject: Re: Connecting Macs

To: CDROMLAN POSTINGS

>Has anyone heard of this?  Are there any developers out there working on
>connecting Macs to CDRom servers...

The new version of SCSI Express for NetWare supports accesing CD-ROMs on
the Novell fileserver from DOS, OS/2, UNIX, and now MAC clients.  If you
would like more information you can contact our sales department at
407-677-8333.

- Arnold Jones
Micro Design International, Inc.
arnold@microdes.mhs.compuserve.com
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
Subject: Differences Between Toshiba 3201, 3301, and 3301b?
Organization: Mail Group
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 20:58:56 GMT

Because I want to get a CD-ROM that will work on a wide variety of
systems (DOS/Windows, Windows/NT, and UNIX), I have been convinced to
buy a Toshiba 3301.  Supposedly, the 3301 is the only SCSI-2 compliant 
CD-ROM drive out there today.

My question is what are the differences between the 3201, 3301, and
3301b?  Is the 3201 also SCSI-2 compliant?  If you were buying used
equipment, what is the oldest model number/ROM BIOS version that you
would recommend getting if you want to maintain SCSI-2 compliance?

Thanks,
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
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From:         "Thomas C. Wilson" <LIB4@JETSON.UH.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Current Contents on a network

Robert Sessions writes:

  Problems I've encountered:

  1.  It is designed for an environment where each user has his own pc--we
  operate in a multi-user, multi-workstation net.

  - each user needs a configuration file (called CC3.INI).  Each time this
  file is re-configured, it is overwritten.  This seems to mean each of our
  users needs to save her configuration file on a floppy, or risk having the
  file altered by the next user.

While I haven't worked with CCOD, I have encountered other products
that are clearly intended for the personal desktop, not the public
network.  One advantage that some network operating systems will
provide is the ability to limit write rights so that a given user
could not change a particular configuration file.  However, if you
wish to allow a user to change parameters for his/her session only,
you can set up the default configuration you want and then copy
the configuration file to another file (perhaps even another location).
Then in the script or batch that calls up the program, copy the
faux default configuration file to the real configuration file.
A batch might look like this:

REM Batch to start CCOD
CD\CCOD
COPY CC3.DEF CC3.INI
<EXECUTE CCOD PROGRAM>

This setup would allow the user to change the configuration to
personal liking, but each new user would start back at the default.

Tom Wilson
University of Houston Libraries
LIB4@jetson.uh.edu
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From:         HANSG <Hans.Groenewegen@LIB.MONASH.EDU.AU>
Subject:      Re: need to improve LAN performance

Arne,

As we have also had our share of problems with ABI/Inform on our network,
your solution of copying the whole data base to magnetic storage appeals
to me and we will give it a try.  Only one concern: have you explored the
licensing implications ?


Hans Groenewegen,
Deputy University Librarian,
Monash University.  Melbourne.  Australia.
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From:         CHUCK@CHES.CS.VIMS.EDU
Subject:      CD drive cases

Is there a company which manufactures/sells cases which hold, supply
power to, and vent 8 or more CD drives, without also housing a
processor?  That is, can you buy a CD case as a peripheral, not as a
server?

Chas. McFadden
chuck@ches.cs.vims.edu
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From:         Helen Laurence <LAURENCE@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      CDROM products in Arabic

    Please respond directly to me; NOT to the list.
    I am not currently a list member.  Thanks in advance.

    I need information on CDROM products in ARABIC.  Is there a
    catalog, directory, listing?

    Also, I need information on CDROM systems (LANs, WANs, etc)
    operating in academic or business environments in countries where
    Arabic is spoken.

    Any leads are greatly appreciated.

    Helen Laurence, Reference Dept.
    Florida Atlantic University, P.O. Box 3092, Boca Raton, FL 33431
    (407)367-3780
    Internet: LAURENCE@ACC.FAU.EDU      Bitnet: LAURENCE@FAUVAX
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From:         FB23@VAXB.ACS.UNT.EDU
Subject:      Re: Macs and MSdos network

We run something similar.  There is a 40 node computer lab (20 PC/20 Mac)
in the Libraries with its own dedicated Novell 3.11 server.  We run the
Mac NLM at the server and have put Mac Name Space on one or two of the
disk volumes.  We run thin-coax Ethernet to all machines.  We have had few
problems while using NetWare 3.11.  We did have quite a few problems when
using NetWare 2.15 with the Mac VAP.

We load Mac apps on the fileserver and access them just as we do with DOS
apps.  Oh, one problem that we do run into is backup of the server.  I
currently have a DAT (Digital Audio Tape) drive attached to a workstation.
In its current configuration we can only back up the data fork of the Mac
files.  This is useless, of course, for backing up Mac executable files.
We will soon be moving the drive to the fileserver and buying one of the
NLM-based backup packages.  This will allow us to backup the Mac files
in full as well as we do our DOS files.

Arne J. Almquist
Assistant to the Director of Libraries for
Networking and Microcomputer Resources
University of N. Texas--Libraries
P.O. Box 5188
Denton, TX  76203-0188

ph. 817/565-3024
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From: kirby@athena.cs.uga.edu (Steven Kirby)
Subject: Re: Want Info On Pioneer DM-600 Caddy CD-ROM
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 12:07:59 GMT

We've got one and are buying two more for CDs that are not on our LAN.
The DRM-600 is a little on the slow side.  There's a newer model that is
supposed to be good bit faster, up to MPC specs, I think.  Best thing I
can say about the DRM-600 is that it keeps physical handling of CDs to
an absolute minimum.

Steven Kirby
University of Georgia
kirby@athena.cs.uga.edu
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From:         "T. LaBorie" <tlaborie@SJU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CD drive cases
              Nov 19, 92 08:16:01 am

You might want to try Todd Enterprises at 800-445-TODD. I know they sell
drives in "tower" cabinets -- they may sell the cabinets separately.

Tim LaBorie
St. Joseph's University
tlaborie@sju.edu>

> Is there a company which manufactures/sells cases which hold, supply
> power to, and vent 8 or more CD drives, without also housing a
> processor?  That is, can you buy a CD case as a peripheral, not as a
> server?
>
> Chas. McFadden
> chuck@ches.cs.vims.edu
>
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From:         RICHARD HARRIS <HARRIS@EVMSVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Optinet & MSCDEX

Reply to E.J. Craft's question:

------------------------------------------
Hi !

        I'm trying to put Deuches Bib. and Biblio. Nat. Francaise (
Bibligraphic databases for books published in Germany and France ) by
Chadwick-Healy onto our Optinet network.

        The problems I'm having are :

        + Running out of memory as soon as network device drivers are
loaded.
        + Systems won't work if MSCDEX is loaded ( major problem with
Optinet )

        Does anyone have any experience with either of these titles OR any
others which act similarly ?

                                                Edward
------------------------------------------------------------------------

We use Optinet with SilverPlatter.  MSCDEX has been a big problem for us
as it consumes so much RAM that non CD-ROM applications won't run.
Recently some knowledgeable individuals put out information on a solution to
our problem.  Perhaps it could be adapted to Edward's situation.

My suggestion is made because Online has told me that Optinet itself
does not require MSCDEX.  In my situation it appears that it is
SilverPlatter which forces me to use it <grrr>.

It would be worth testing the approach we use for removing MSCDEX from
memory for those applications which do not use or cannot run with it.

What is needed are 3 pieces of software:

        FMARK             part of TSRCOM utilities (FTBable)
        RELEASE           ditto
        DRVOFF            provided with book "Undocumented DOS"

FMARK makes a record of the memory location which MSCDEX loads at.

RELEASE can then unload MSCDEX from memory.

But, it doesn't release the drives.  DRVOFF is used to do that.

The method is a little creaky but it does work.

(Beginning of script excerpt)

     ITEM CD-ROM MEDLINE { BATCH CHDIR NOECHO }
        EXEC testnet
        EXEC IF NOT ERRORLEVEL == 1 GOTO exit
        EXEC METER LOGIN MEDLINE Z:\PUBLIC\USAGE\AUDIT.DBF 8 -A
        EXEC IF ERRORLEVEL == 1 GOTO exit
        LINK R: sys:cdrom\optinet -s
        LINK S: sys:cdrom\spirs.31 -s
        LINK T: s:cdrom\spirs.31\dbase -s
        EXEC r:
        EXEC c:\dos\fmark c:\tsr\fmark.log
        EXEC mscdex /d:$optinet /m:4
        EXEC onet -a 1 -o splat
        EXEC s:
        EXEC spirs
        EXEC r:
        EXEC cls
        EXEC onet -c -e
        EXEC c:\dos\release c:\tsr\fmark.log
        EXEC c:\dos\drvoff d:
        EXEC c:\dos\drvoff e:
        EXEC c:\dos\drvoff f:
        EXEC c:\dos\drvoff g:
        EXEC c:\dos\drvoff h:
        EXEC c:\dos\drvoff i:
        EXEC c:\dos\drvoff j:
        EXEC METER LOGOUT MEDLINE Z:\PUBLIC\USAGE\AUDIT.DBF -A
        EXEC :exit
        EXEC POPMENU

(End of script excerpt)

Richard Harris, Systems Coordinator
Eastern Virginia Medical School Library
HARRIS@EVMSVMS.BITNET  (804) 446-5852
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From: westes@netcom.com (Will Estes)
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Subject: Want Info On Pioneer DM-600 Caddy CD-ROM
Date: 18 Nov 92 03:58:47 GMT
Organization: Mail Group

Has anyone had any experiences using the Pioneer DM-600 CD-ROM that
holds 6 CD-ROMSs?  Is it worth the investment?  

If you have one for sale please contact me by mail.

--
Thanks,
Will Estes		Internet: westes@netcom.com
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From:         Howard Pasternack <BLIPS15@BROWNVM.BROWN.EDU>
Subject:      Re: CD drive cases

>
>Is there a company which manufactures/sells cases which hold, supply
>power to, and vent 8 or more CD drives, without also housing a
>processor?  That is, can you buy a CD case as a peripheral, not as a
>server?
>
 Todd Industries sells cases of various types for single and multiple
 CDs.  They are the supplier of the Nelinet units.

 Their address is 224-49 67th Avenue, Bayside, NY 11364
 (718) 343-1040

 Howard Pasternack
 Brown University
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