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From: jastruss@iastate.edu (Joseph A Struss)
Subject: STS SpiGopher server now available at Iowa State
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 22:15:21 GMT

Hi,

  Iowa State's unofficial and experimental SpiGopher server is now
officially (but unofficially) up and running for testing at:

isumvs.iastate.edu  port 70

  This facility uses STS SpiGopher which gives access to SPIRES
database files on the ISUMVS system (WYLBUR) at Iowa State University.
STS SpiGopher is a cousin to CMS SpiGopher at Syracuse University.
Current database facilities available include: a restaurant review
database, a video review database, an electronic directory of names
at Iowa State, an electronic schedule of classes and an informational
catalog database describing Iowa State.  

  Additions to CMS SpiGopher include: an info.files structure so one
can place information files with each SpiGopher database, a folder or
.fd feature that is used for a link-list style database, a link.out
structure to hold links to other Gopher servers (so SpiGopher can blend
in with other Gopher servers better) and other assorted sundries.
More complete STS SpiGopher technical information is available from within
Iowa State's SpiGopher and is also available for anonymous ftp from:

net-1.iastate.edu  in the /pub/wylbur subdirectory (file: spigo.info)

  Questions, inquiries and comments regarding this facility should
be sent to:  Joe Struss (ga.jas@isumvs.iastate.edu).

  That's all for now.

Bye.

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Date:         Wed, 23 Dec 1992 13:46:30 EST
From:         Greg Kroll <USDGK@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      a solution found for reinitializing variables in input format

Hi all,

  I thought I would post this in case anyone runs into a similar problem.
Just to reiterate I was trying to detect an end-of-file condition from a
line-by-line input format so I could reinitialize the local vgroup variables.
Although I still do not know why the $ENDATA flag is never set (see my post
of 12/21/92 for details) I found another solution.  I began skimming the
system variables (after all there are system variables for everything right?),
and came across $FREC.   Here is the "explain" text on this variable:

$FREC VARIABLE

FORMATS (CMS), section E.2.1.3

This global flag is set when the first record is being  processed  during  a
multiple-record  processing  command, such as TYPE or DISPLAY REST; the flag
is subsequently cleared.  You  may  wish  to  test  this  flag  for  special
first-record  handling.   It is set whether or not report mode processing is
in effect -- that is, it may be used  by  non-report  output  formats.   The
$FREC flag may also be used in SPIBILD input formats.

**Referenced by: HEADER FRAMES

I figured as long as I get the vgroup reinitialized it does not matter if
it is done before the first record is processed or after the last.  So
one line of code did the trick, here it is:

   FRAME-NAME = READ.MAIL;
     FRAME-TYPE = DATA;
     UPROC = If $FREC Then EVAL $VINIT(CHIPMAIL);   <<<=== :-)   :-)   :-)


Have a very Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!


--Greg Kroll
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 10:56:44 EST
From:         Greg Kroll <USDGK@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      detecting end-of-file with a line-by-line input format

I hope someone can help me out with this.  I have a line-by-line input
format for which I am NOT able to detect when the end of the input data
(file) is reached.  According to what I read the $ENDATA variable should
be set (true=1) when the format executes a GETDATA after the last line
of data has been read, a subsequent GETDATA would cause an S808 error.
The problem is this format is NOT setting $ENDATA and somehow already
knows it is at the end of the input file.  I need to test for this
condition so I can do some processing before exiting the format.
Here are the important (I hope) parts of the format.

...
 FRAME-ID = READ.MAIL;
   DIRECTION = INPUT;
   FRAME-DIM = 0,80;
   USAGE = FULL;
   LABEL;
uproc = if $ftrace then * 'Executing first label group of format';
...
 FORMAT-NAME = TESTMAIL;
   ACCOUNTS = USDGK;
   ALLOCATE = USDGK:CHIPMAIL;
   FRAME-NAME = READ.MAIL;
     FRAME-TYPE = DATA;

Trace of format execution:

...
->
input add
* Format TESTMAIL
* Format TESTMAIL
Enter frame READ.MAIL                    <<== multiple records added
Executing first label group of format
...                                      <<== last line of input file read
Leave frame READ.MAIL; at label no. 19
* Leave format
- ADD  @Line       267   Key = 71        <<== adds last record to database
* Format TESTMAIL                        <<== reenters format
Enter frame READ.MAIL
  * Leave format                         <<== never executes first label
* Format TESTMAIL                        <<== group, simply exits format
* Format TESTMAIL                        <<== no getdata executed
* Leave format                           <<== $endata = 0
->


As you can see when the format is reentered the last time it should try to
read the input file, discover it is at the end-of-file, set the $endata
flag, then exit according to a test of this condition in the format.
None of this ever occurs, it simply enters the format the last time and
exits.  How does it know it is at the end of the file?  Why are no label
groups processed the last time though?

What I would like to do is reinitialize the variables in the local vgroup
and issue a subsequent input add command.  I cannot do this from an initial
frame since this is NOT a report format.  I can always reissue the SET FORMAT
command to reinitialize the variables but I was trying NOT to do this,
as sometime down the road I may forget and mess up the input add operation.
If anyone can think of a better way to get the variables reinitialized
I am open to suggestions.


--Greg Kroll
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Subject:      Mailing List

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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:23:03 -0500
From:         Maggie Rioux <c78_mar1@RED.WHOI.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Hydrogen sulfide layers

To bring the discussion back to its original topic:
  Thanks for the clear and detailed description of hydrogen sulfide
layers in ponds.  A scientific team at our sister institution, the
Marine Biological Laboratory, dives in ponds regularly taking water
samples for acid precipitation studies.  They have encountered hydrogen
sulfide layers also and the message was passed on to the chief scientist.
We had an invitation to use someone's back yard to dive a local pond
but she warned us off because of a hydrogen sulfide layer in it.
  Maggie Rioux
P.S. - maybe you folks all know each other, but on the other lists I'm
on it's considered proper netiquette to sign your messages.  Many
email systems will only show the list as the source, not your orignian
address.  Thanks.
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Date:         Fri, 25 Dec 1992 17:01:56 -0500
From:         John HC <jhc@WORLD.STD.COM>
Subject:      The Cousteau Society and their experiences

Possibly. We meant to warn real freshwater divers about a serious threat
that they may encounter. The Cousteau people and their exploits are of no
interest to us in the least.

We at the Divers' Environmental Survey do our best to make a difference in
the way people view their local waters; that is, we want them to see and
understand their local waters as living ecosystems worth protecting and
preserving. The Cousteau people are a marketing group, and in the words of
Jean-Michel, nothing more than "professional beggars" (words he used to
respond to two would-be environmental activist divers who wanted tips on
how to get an organization started).

Have *you* noticed any difference in the way folks regard their local
waters as a result of the Cousteau expeditions?

Gadflies of the broadcast media, that's the Cousteau family, IMHO.

John H-C


On Thu, 24 Dec 1992, Douglas Eder wrote:

> John H-C and other net members...
>
> Those filamentous strings of H2S bacteria and the sulfurous interface...
> how about at the freshwater-saltwater boundary of Cousteau's Blue Holes,
> say, on Andros Island at a depth of about 60 feet? Do I recall correctly
> that there is about a 3-foot thick sulfur layer that Blue Hole divers
> have to penetrate?
>                        ----Doug
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 13:34:16 -0800
From:         David Duis Story <story@BENT.WPD.SGI.COM>
Subject:      Re: Development on Liquid Oxygen
              92 01:27:56 pm

Chan, Humphrey writes:
>
>    Anyone knows the latest on the development of liquid
> oxygen ??  Is it still under experimentation ??
> Will it ever be available commercially ??

You can buy liquid oxygen (LOX) commercially today.

However, it is not feasible today as a diving gas source -- too hard
to contain, etc..

If you meant closed-circuit oxygen rebreathers, they are available
commercially for under $10K, but they're quite limited.

The really interesting technology is closed-circuit mixed gas
rebreathers, whose depth is nearly unlimited.  That is on its way.

Cheers,

David Story                        NAUI AI Z9588, PADI DM 43922, EMT
story@bent.wpd.sgi.com             Oxygen is a drug in California.
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Date:         Mon, 28 Dec 1992 12:54:30 -0500
From:         Maggie Rioux <c78_mar1@RED.WHOI.EDU>
Subject:      Waste of resources

Thank you for your kind comments.  Since this list has nothing to do
with anyone's work, only their avocations, perhaps the entire list
is a waste of net resources!
Maggie Rioux
NAUI #5956
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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 11:35:25 CST
From:         Douglas Eder <C900@SIUEMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Divers' Environmental Survey Freshwater Bulletin

John H-C and other net members...

Those filamentous strings of H2S bacteria and the sulfurous interface...
how about at the freshwater-saltwater boundary of Cousteau's Blue Holes,
say, on Andros Island at a depth of about 60 feet? Do I recall correctly
that there is about a 3-foot thick sulfur layer that Blue Hole divers
have to penetrate?
                       ----Doug
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:33:45 PST
From:         "BUILDING THE DREAM AROUND THE WORLD...PGR 2026"
              <AHARDISON@FAB9.INTEL.COM>
Subject:      Beak jobs, Nose fixes, and the Pressure

Subj:   Nose repairs


>I just had my broken nose fixed and I was woundering if any of the
>listers out there have ever had a broken nose and sinus work done.

        Never had my nose broke, but I did have a deviated septum.

>Now the question is, what changes have you noticed after the work was
>done with your diving. I have yet to go diving because I just  had
>the work done. I did not have any problems clearing my ears before,
>but the Doc said that I needed to get my beek fixed and I had some
>sinus problems that were related to my bone being out of place.

        Since I did not know how to Scuba Dive before my nose was "fixed",
        I can not tell you if the ear clearing thing changed.  However,
        I can say that my breathing through my nose got much better.

        I also did not suffer much in the sinus cat. like you mention,
        but after I started diving, I noticed that the bridge of my nose
        hurt a little bit more than before when I got to ten feet. (note:
        Since I did not dive, but did swim, I remember what it was like
        to be at the bottom of a swiming pool.)

        After the operation, even the swiming pool had a little pressure on
        bridge of my nose.  I think you will encounter some different
        sensations than you had before, but these sensations will not be
        "painfull".


                                                        Andy Hardison
                                        Internet: Ahardison@Intel9.Intel.com
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Date:         Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:09:55 PST
From:         Tim Chase <A3TC@PSUORVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Nose repairs

I just had my broken nose fixed and I was woundering if any of the
listers out there have ever had a broken nose and sinus work done.

Now the question is, what changes have you noticed after the work was
done with your diving. I have yet to go diving because I just  had
the work done. I did not have any problems clearing my ears before,
but the Doc said that I needed to get my beek fixed and I had some
sinus problems that were related to my bone being out of place.

Thanx Tim Chase Computer Operator Specialist PSU
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Date:         Sun, 27 Dec 1992 18:02:11 CST
From:         Douglas Eder <C900@SIUEMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      The Cousteau Society and their experiences

John H-C---

Ooooooh, didn't mean to push a button by accident, especially around
a holiday.

I beg to differ, however, that a Blue Hole on Andros (or elsewhere) is
irrelevant to "real" divers. I am certainly a real diver and, while
I have swum the Blue Hole in question, I have not dived it. The dive
has been described to me by an Andros resident who offered to escort
me on the dive. At 60 feet, it's doable by relative novices. The offer
to me was not unique.

The Cousteau film series on Nova and elsewhere, it seems to me, has
raised the awareness of many non-divers to the fragility of our
water enivronment. As a professional biologist of sorts, I get
asked numerous questions by tv viewers; as a professional diver of
sorts, I get asked similar questions by tv-viewing divers. So,
in a general way, I'd say, "Yes," Cousteau's films HAVE raised
consciousness. And I've had divers under my supervision comment,
"It's as beautiful as Cousteau's pictures" as they ride the boat
back to shore. On the other hand, the only comment regularly heard after
a dive in the brown-greens of a typical Midwest strip pit is, "Unnngh."

Your main points, however, are excellent. We do inadvertently damage
resources unthinkingly and the hydrogen sulfide layer is dangerous.

             ----Doug
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Date:         Sat, 26 Dec 1992 02:34:27 +0100
From:         H6353NEM@HUELLA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: IPA fonts

Re: IPA fonts
From: Geza Nemes

If you have problems with printing IPA characters you should use
Publisher's Powerpak (sic), an add-on programme from Atech software (I have no
idea where they are...). It works with WordPerfect 5.1, MS Word, MS Works
etc. and it also has a Windows version. I have been using it for a number
of semesters to print out the impossible IPA stuff. It has at least three
different phonetic fonts with dozens of typefaces and it works with
hundreds of types of printers.

Try to contact them, you may find them or the product itself in software
catalogues, but as I'm using it illegally myself (as I haven't the faintest
how to buy it) send your 'geographical' address to me....

(I hope there's nobody from the Software Police on the mailing-list (.))

Merry Xmas and a HNY!

>> Geza
H6353NEM@ELLA.HU
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Date:         Sun, 27 Dec 1992 19:57:08 GMT
From:         Dr T Varadi <eia029@CENTRAL1.LANCASTER.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: IPA fonts
              "H6353NEM@EARN.HUELLA" at Dec 26, 92 2:34 am

>
>
> Re: IPA fonts
> From: Geza Nemes
>
> If you have problems with printing IPA characters you should use
> Publisher's Powerpak (sic), an add-on programme from Atech software (I have no
> idea where they are...). It works with WordPerfect 5.1, MS Word, MS Works
> etc. and it also has a Windows version. I have been using it for a number
> of semesters to print out the impossible IPA stuff. It has at least three
> different phonetic fonts with dozens of typefaces and it works with
> hundreds of types of printers.
>
> Try to contact them, you may find them or the product itself in software
> catalogues, but as I'm using it illegally myself (as I haven't the faintest
                  

> how to buy it) send your 'geographical' address to me....
  
Ezt nagy csacskasag volt idebiggyeszteni, Kedves Geza. Az elso tagmondatot az
ember tapintatosan elhallgatja az ilyen finom uri kozonseg elott (Software
Police or not), az implikalt relacio pedig gyermekien atlatszo...
For your information:
ATECH Software
5964 La Place Court
Suite 125
Carlsbad, CA 92008
Order from Linguist's Software
P.O.Box 580,
Edmonds, WA 98020-0580
Tel: (206) 775-1130
Fax: (206) 771-5911

Meltanyolom segitokeszsegedet, csak egy kicsit visszafogottabban az ilyen
ugyekrol ezen a Forumon.
Az hogy HNY, az nagyon helyes. SOT: BUEK!
Udv.
Tamas
No hard feelings!
>
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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:12:00 HKT
From:         Richard Pemberton <LCRPEM@USTHK.BITNET>
Subject:      IPA fonts

Sorry to bring this up again, but despite the responses I got earlier, we
are still no closer to being able to print out phonetic fonts - we were
unable to get hold of several shareware/ftp files, and those that we did
were not compatible with our laser printer (I think). We did get hold of An
IPA disc for the Mac, but it did not seem to include a schwa, which I need;
we have not heard from Adobe about their fonts yet.

SO: can anyone give me an address of a supplier of fonts that will enable
me to print out British/American English phonemes (N.B. the schwa is
essential) either on a Mac or a PC (preferably for Wordperfect 5.1), using
a Texas MicroLaser printer? Addresses anywhere are fine, but addresses in
the UK will be especially welcome as our head of dept is off there soon.

Thank you very much in advance and a merry christmas to all.

Richard Pemberton
Language Centre, Hong Kong University of Technology

lcrpem@usthk.ust.hk                     lcrpem@usthk.bitnet
From: Jeri.Dies@UTXVM.CC.UTEXAS.EDU
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Subject: IPA fonts
Date: 24 Dec 92 13:32:00 GMT
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Are there ASCII Codes for these symbols?  If there were, you could
generate them by pressing ALT plus the code.
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Date:         Thu, 24 Dec 1992 13:57:26 -0700
From:         SCOTTML@JKHBHRC.BYU.EDU
Subject:      Re: IPA fonts

As I recall, Peter Ladefoged at UCLA was developing IPA fonts for the
MacIntosh several years ago.  I don't know the status of the project,
nor his e-mail address, but you might try to contact him, Ian
Madeson, or Patricia Keating in the phonetics lab there.



Mary Lee Scott
Linguistics Dept.
3184 JKHB
Brigham Young University
Provo, UT  84602
Office: (801) 378-5353
Fax:    (801) 378-4649
Internet: SCOTTML@JKHBHRC.BYU.EDU
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Date:         Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:49:01 -0600
From:         mmg1083@UXA.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      Requests in L2

I'm interested in the use of English requests by second language learners.
Although I am looking at Spanish-English bilinguals, I would like to get
some information about the use of English reuqests by Japanese speakers.
Particularly I am looking for any recent studies done with Japanese
children.
Pleae, respond to me personally, not to the list.  Thanks in advance.
Montserrat Mir
Educational Psychology
Univ. of Illinois, Urbana.
mmg1083@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
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Date:         Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:49:13 -0800
From:         silver@SONOMA.EDU

set slart-l nomail
Shirley Silver <silver@sonoma.edu>
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From: s92068to@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Tetsuya Ohnishi)
Subject: Re: test
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	<1i25obINN5s0@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 03:31:51 GMT

ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu wrote...

>> It got here. But where is here?:-)
          ~~~~               ~~~~
I think here is the place with some computers!! (^^)

2nd test

tetsu 

happy happy new year !!
From: ap290@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ruth M. Hanschka)
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Date: 1 Jan 1993 19:23:55 GMT
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In a previous article, s92068to@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Tetsuya Ohnishi) says:

>test
>tetsu
>
It got here. But where is here?:-)
-- 
		###	Ruth Hanschka, the Nethead    ###
			- ap290@cleveland.freenet.edu
	      Where anything can happen, and it usually does
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From: s92068to@sfc.keio.ac.jp (Tetsuya Ohnishi)
Subject: test
Organization: Keio University Shonan Fujisawa Campus, Fujisawa Japan
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 18:40:37 GMT

test
tetsu
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