From: johnsd2@lib102.its.rpi.edu.its1 (Daniel Norman Johnson)
Subject: Re: NeXT vs Mac (Again) was "Need to convin
Reply-To: johnsd2@lib102.its.rpi.edu.its1
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 01:45:21 GMT

(gad this thread is huge)

In article 1jlqtgINNctk@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca, wrob@unixg.ubc.ca (Robert Wong) writes:
>In article <1993Jan20.154614.24012@pellns.alleg.edu> smytonj@murr11.alleg.edu (Jim Smyton) writes:
>>Great. Now I know NextSTEP 3.0 is cool.  I used it today, and aside from a  
>>new folder look and a funky preference file that screwed up my docks, I  
>>did not see any big advantage over 2.x.  For the an office worker, which  
>>is what this thread was originally about, these changes will probably not  
>>mean squat.  Tell me when an 040 NeXT running Mach and NextSTEP will run  
>>at the same speed as an 030 Mac running 7.1 and I will be slightly  
>>interested in getting off the cases of the people who keep saying NeXT is  
>>better than Mac.
>
>I won't touch the my computer is better than yours issue.

Of course not.

>So, what is so hot about NS 3.0?  

You'll touch ->MY OS<- is better than yours.

>How about Display Postscript level 2 (PS level 2) to make your NeXT laser 
>printer automatically PS 2?  (I don't think upgrading system software on a Mac
>will up the PS level on a Laserwriter NT/NTX)

I don't think it will do this on the NeXT; it will make the computer
IMAGE with PS level 2. But what if you are using a "real" postscript
printer.. does it help then?

This is a lot like saying that the NeXT wont be able to automatically
upgrade to X11R6... True but...

>How about built-in Pantone-colour for the publishing people out there?

Apple is working on a good color matching system. I wasn't aware that
Pantone was such a thing tho.

>How about Appletalk client and Novell client support?

Appletalk client isn't so hard for a Mac. Novell can be got 3d party,
tho it is pricey.

>How about the ability to read Mac floppies?  (I know the Mac already has this
>feature. :-))

:) Hey, we can even read 800k and 400k formats! So there!

>How about printer drivers for Epson & Proprinters?

Go get 'em off the net if you want to tolerate such a printer. Or use the
ImageWriter printer in draft mode.

>How about better network management tools?

System 7 provided this, of course, but probably not good enough for you.
Unix has good ones, and there's nothing I can do to deny that.

>How about localization support for Eng/French/German/Span./Italian/Swedish?
>(I think you guys got that in System 7.0 or 7.1)

We had that in system ->1.0<-;

No kidding.

System 5ish provided support for non-roman alphabets,  and system 7
does things like context sensitive typefaces, reverse writing etc.
I believe 7.1 can do mixed script systems and several other neat tricks,
but I'm not very knowledgable about it.

>All this and more comes when you buy a new system or updgrade ($) your existing
>system.  Not bad eh?

We get the same thing, but until recently it was free. (not any more,
tho. Dammit. :( )

[deletia- stuff I dont know about. NeXT monitors, etc. Bupkis.]

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