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Date: Mon,  9 Nov 92 10:27:08 MST
From: rosej@alaska.et.byu.edu (James Rose)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Distribution: world
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
Subject: Re: 2,000 yard rusher


In article <1992Nov6.100205.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>, cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>In article <8{#@byu.edu>, rosej@utah.et.byu.edu (James Rose) writes:
>> 
>> v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes:
>>>I was wondering if anyone knows who the last man to rush for
>>>2,000 yards was?
>> 
>> Last man?  How about ONLY man.  Eric Dickersons' record stands at 2005 yards.
>> 
>> 			James
>
>
>    Well, I'm sure you're getting lots of mail so I'll keep this short:
>when exactly did you discover the NFL?
>
>                                      -doug THE dolfan-

Boy, it's a good thing that the weather is cold now considering all of the flames!
Please forgive my flagrant display of ignorance.  I was barely 7 when O.J. got
his record and you can imagine that football was not really a high priority then.

					James
From: iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Imran Qureshi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bills D
Date: 6 Nov 92 15:12:31 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

The Bills defense has been quietly playing like the form they exhibited in 
the early part of the 88 season (when they were 11-1 due to thanks to the D).

The Bills allow 89 yds/game rushing and an astounding 3.3yds/rush!!!

The simple reason is that Bruce Smith + Jeff Wright = 2/3 of the Defensive
line.  This 2/3 was missing much of last year.  Also, Henry Jones is turning
out to be sensational.  You may know him for leading the league in INTS (6) but
what people don't know is that he plays against the run very well.  This is
surprising considering HJ was a CB until the Bills converted him to a strong
safety.  It helps if the SS is one of the fastest guys on the team.  

Overall, the Bills D is 12th in the NFL.

2 reasons:
San Francisco game
Secondary has given up some big plays which "distort" the stats.

Why "distort" you ask?  Maybe the Bills D is just no better than 12th in the
league??

Then you should know that the Bills have given up the 5th least points in the
NFL.  However, the Bills are close to the top of the NFL in turnovers which
result in scores.  (Something like 52 points--I'm not sure).  These scores
can not be 100% blamed on the D.  There was nothing that a Nate Odomes or
Phil Hansen could have done to stop Luis Oliver from scoring.  And many of the
Bills turnovers occurred in their own half of the field.  Thus, the defense is
actually good--they don't let many people score.

With this D and the Buffalo weather coming around the corner, if the Bills
secure home field advantage in the playoffs, forget any ideas about winning
in Rich Stadium!!

And once the offense turns "on," the Bills will probably field a team in the
all-time best ever in terms of talent, ability, and ....accomplishment.  

The b
The Bills have suffered numerous injuries (they had 9 going into the Pats game)
Many of these were to the LB core.  As these guys get fully healthy, watch out
Miami and the rest of the AFC.  The NFC can watch in the SB.

Just some thoughts......
Always think positive.

Imran Qureshi\
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro,rec.sport.football.college
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Crazy & Fake Plays (was: Bears fake punt illegal)
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 17:39:23 GMT

heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM) writes:
>
>During the off season the NFLs competition committee creates the NO 
>RUTABAGAS rule.  This was later expanded into the no deceptions rule.
>
>If you don't think this is realistic [...]

Oh, but I do.

A few months ago Sports Illustrated ran a very nice story on a
Syracuse coach in the 40's who had the center face the backfield...
bend over and snap the ball from between his legs.  If the center has
long arms and good legs, he can snap and start running with the ball
with no need for an exchange to a quarterback.  This creates all kind
of mismatches, I suppose because they essentially had on extra back.

(Playing NOSE tackle against this kind of backward center must be
strange, to say the least!)

Anyway, Syracuse won some games that year with this crazy and
innovative idea...  and that summer the Powers That Be put in a rule
that said that the center must face the line of scrimmage.

No Fun.


--Gidi
From: v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 2 Dolphins return
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:30:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <Bx9xzD.3Ku@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v130pwbq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu 
	(ANTI-CHRIST) writes...

>Good news for the Dolphins, their punter Roby and backup Safety Bobby Harden
>were taken off IR. Having Roby, the NFL's greatest punter, back is a BIG plus
>to a already outstanding special teams unit. 

Yeah.  "Outstanding."  As in, "Out standing around while the Colts take another
kick back for a touchdown."

Scott Schwedes began a trend.  Shula just hasn't figured it out yet.

>Let's hope that Offerdahl isn't needed this weekend so that he may rest and  
>be as effective as he was last time he abused Jim Kelly. 

Better hope so.  The line here says that the Dolphins are in *serious* hurts
without Johnny O.  Always have been--probably always will be.

>    _____________________________________________________________________
>   |   Miami Dolphins and Hurricanes:        * Eric Orologio " Dr. O"    |
>   |   Two of the Best teams in Football!    * V130pwbq @ubvms           |
>   |_____________________________________________________________________|

					---Me
From: v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Damned for all time...)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills in 1st..suprise,surprise
Date: 6 Nov 92 04:26:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Nov5.222403.20453@gn.ecn.purdue.edu>, nitin@gn.ecn.purdue.edu 
	(Nitin Khanna) writes...
>>In article <1992Nov3.183621.16095@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> 
	iqrh_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Imran Qureshi) writes:

>> Miami in first but you can look at it another way.  The Bills play the Fish
>> on MNF.  As long as they both win or both lose, the teams will be tied.  So no
>> matter who has the official tiebreaker now, the winner of that game will be   
>> in sole possession of 1st place.  Until then, each team can consider itself
>> in "1st" place because they each control their own destiny.

>This is warped thinking and strange logic; even for rsfp. 

I had to do a double-take on this myself, but it made sense.  Allow me to
explain ("clarify" is actually a better word):

As long as the Dolphins and Bills either both win *their next game*, or both
*lose* their next game--they will be tied heading into the rematch November 16.

>-- 
>Nitin Khanna.  I Teach Eunuchs - I mean Unix.
>Go Bulls, Bears, Broncos, Blackhawks.

"I think you hear us knockin', and I think we're comin' in..."

					---Chet Z
From: kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Andre Reed?
Keywords: buffalo, beebe reed
Date: 10 Nov 92 01:58:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: acsu.BxH9I5.or
Organization: UB

In article <hatfield.721356534@s6.math.umn.edu> hatfield@s6.math.umn.edu (Gary Hatfield) writes:
>
>	It seems that Andre Reed has fallen off the face of the earth.
>Whats going on?  Is he hirt or is Don Beebe so good that Reed is benched.
>I suspect injury but can any one tell me what it is and how serious.
>			Thanks
>			Gary Hatfield.
>
>	(P.S.  The Vikings are planning to use Roger Craig more and
>more so this bodes ill for Terry Allen "Owners")
>s

No, Andre is not hurt. It's a combination of things. There are so many
other offensive weapons on the team (TT, Lofton, McKeller, Beebe,
Metzelaars, etc.), and with Reed always drawing double coverage, he doesn't
get the ball thrown to him alot.
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From: johndoe@crispus.inmet (johndoe)
Subject: Re: 0-16 Patriots ???!
Reply-To: johndoe@inmet.com (Bus error - core dumped)
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 07:28:17 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.193829.10180@cbnewsm.cb.att.com> vito@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (daniel.b.vought) writes:
In article <1dec87INNii9@bigboote.WPI.EDU> cor@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Cory Shimer) writes:
>I'd like to know whether people think it is likely that the
>Pats will go 0-16 this year?
>
>Until last week, I didn't believe so.
>(And I didn't change my mind due to how they played, but due
> to the injury situation).
>
>IMHO the PAts have been playing better as of late, but the
>injury situation has gotten out of hand!
>
>List of the injured:
>
>Hart Lee Dykes : out for season (WR)
>Bruce Armstrong : out for season (OT)
>Irving Fryar : Hamstring problem (probable for this week) (WR)
>Chris Singleton : ???
>Ray Agnew : ???
>Andre Tippett : ??? (OL)
>Hugh Millen : banged up bad, out indefinitely (QB)
>Dick MacPherson : Stomach problems, out indefinitely (HEAD COACH)
>
>I'm probably missing a few.
>
>and yes, they lost Garin Veris to Free Agency.
>
>When things like this happen during a season, you've got to
>feel like forfeiting the season, just to get healthy for next year!
>
>AS it is, 0-16 looks very likely to me.
>anyone else care to make a prediction?
>
>- disheartened Pat's fan
>
i, too, am a disheartened pats fan, but i'm not giving up hope, yet.  they
have been playing well, of late, against some tough teams.  (49ers, bills)
with some good defense and a little luck, playing in foxboro against the
saints this weekend provides its possibilities.  they also have a game
against an unpredictable jets team in foxboro coming up, two games against
the colts, and another unpredictable team in atlanta.

of course, i have to admit, after losing the game to cleveland, and then
losing their coach, i have also come to thinking i won't be that surprised
to see them go 0fer the season.

-johndoe
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: rfedkiw@crenshaw.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: Pitt #1 - NOT
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 00:29:29 GMT

Well, after listening to a bunch of moronic Pitt fans cry how their
team had 'vaulted to number one' based on AFC record....
Where are your fake statistics now.

The tiebreaker belongs to the Bills. Head on Head. Period.
Thus Pitt is 2 games out of first place and has lost any
control over their own season.
They must sit back like little kids and hope that Buffalo loses
TWO games out of the next 7. In the meantine they must try to win
all of theirs. HA !!

As for Miami... the same thing goes next week. You can cry all
you want that Miami owns the tiebreaker but that's bull.
The tiebreaker goes to next weeks winner.
If you want to look dumb, cover this net with claims of first 
place in AFC this week.. like Pitt fans did.

If Buffalo beats Miami, then Buffalo has a 2 game edge 
                        over the whole AFC !!!!!
If Miami beats Buffalo, then Miami has a 2 game edge over Buffalo.
                        (and at least 1 over the AFC)

For Buffalo fans... A WIN next week against Miami would put the Bills
in first alone, with a two game lead since they would own the 
tiebreakers against both Pitt and Miami.

They could drop a game after that (even in the AFC east) and still
hold first alone. (since Miami lost 2 in the east)

Look for the winner of next weeks game to snag homefield advantage
for the playoffs.....


--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)

A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
while others are doing.
From: cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Sports Illustrated midseason All-Pro team
Date: 12 Nov 92 13:56:24 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

>> I laugh at those fools from SI... They said that Buffalo wouldn't
>> make the playoffs.. What fools!!!! 
> 
> 
> Yeah, if Buffalo didn't make the playoffs, who could we count on to 
> lose the Super Bowl??!!
> 
> 
> 

         I think San Fran will finnaly lose one: Miami 34   S. F. 24

                             -doug THE dolfan-
From: coutinho_b@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: FAQ???
Date: 11 Nov 1992 02:15:32 GMT
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
Reply-To: coutinho_b@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

>
>Has anyone considered adding a FAQ to this newsgroup?
>
>Perhaps geared toward the foreign readers and new football fans. 
>It would be easy to come up with plenty of information. We could write about
>the history of the league, have a list of current teams and their pasts,
>a list of super-bowls, home stadiums, even game rules, major records, 
>free agency, and all kinds of other tidbits.


Yeah, I summary of "who's who" in the NFL would be great. We do get the NFL  
on UHF/Cable down here. I also have started playing in the Kiwi Bowl ;) for  
the local team : St George Giants. (the St. George Tavern are our sponsers :)
th                                                                           
Also, how is Pitsburgh doing these days?


Are league standings posted each week?

B

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From: sooch@duchamp.ipl.rpi.edu (Soo-Chul Han)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: WANTED: 82 Skins/Boys tape
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:51:27 GMT
Article-I.D.: duchamp.SOOCH.92Nov10195127
Distribution: rec
Organization: /home/sooch/.organization

I am looking for a video tape of the 1982 (Jan 1983 actually)
NFC championship game between Skins and Cowboys.
I want the entire game as it was broadcast on CBS.
Anyone who has the game on tape, I am willing to pay BIG BUCKS
if you could make a copy for me and send it.

Please send e-mail to sooch@ipl.rpi.edu for response.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner)
Subject: Re: Countdown to extinction (for Miami)
Reply-To: rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 15:33:57 GMT

In article <BxI5y5.EEI@acsu.buffalo.edu>, kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist)
writes:
> Only 6 days until the big AFC East game Monday night. It's countdown to
> extinction from the division title for the fish. Oh, wait a minute. The
> Fins are good now. They beat the Dolts. Whoa! Stand back.
> Don't worry Miami, there's always next year.

If your'e so confident that Miami is so terrible then why
do you characterize the game as being "big".  Anyway no matter
what the outcome of the game is, there will still be 6 games to go.
R Turner
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: desouzmj@sage.cc.purdue.edu (The Shark)
Subject: Re: Playoff schedule & tie-breakers
Summary: answer
Organization: Purdue University
Distribution: rec
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 08:11:25 GMT

In article <DMERCER.92Nov10145152@ap1pyr.oracle.com>, dmercer@oracle.com (David Mercer) writes:
> 
> Let me see if I've got this right.
> 
> 6 teams in each conference make the playoffs: the three
> division champions and three wildcards.  I'll call them
> DC1-3, where DC1 is the best division champion, and DC3 is
> the worst, and WC1-3, where WC1 is the best wildcard team
> and WC3 is the worst.
> 
> The teams are seeded as follows:
> 	1. DC1
> 	2. DC2
> 	3. DC3
> 	4. WC1
> 	5. WC2
> 	6. WC3
> 
> It should be noted that one or more wildcard teams may or
> may not have a better record than any of the division
> champions, but they are still ranked lower.  Am I correct?
> 
> DC1 ----------.
>                \_________
> WC1            /         \
>     \_________/           \
>     /                      \
> WC2                         >---------
>                            /
> DC2 ----------.           /
>                \_________/
> DC3            /
>     \_________/
>     /
> WC3
> 
> Playoff Round 1:
> 
> WC3 @ DC3 (we'll call this Game 1)
> WC2 @ WC1 (we'll call this Game 2)
> 
> DC1 & DC2 have first-round byes.
> 
You are okay up to this point. The problem here occurs if WC3(#6) upsets DC3(#3)DC1, the top-ranked team, gets the lowest seeded opponent in Round 2. So you're 
brackets would be switched. DC1 would play WC3 and DC2 would play the winner
of Game 2.

> Playoff Round 2:
> 
> winner of Game 1 @ DC2 (Game 3)
> winner of Game 2 @ DC1 (Game 4)
> 
> Playoff Round 3:
> 
> winner of Game 3 @ winner of Game 4 (Conference Championship)
> 
> Was my guess correct?  Or do they decide home & away based
> on the teams involved (ie. the higher-ranked team plays at
> home)?
>
From: tes0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (THOMAS EDWIN SCHMIDLIN)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Steelers: Searcy
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:42:40 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <4eyK=xm00VooMtY0VH@andrew.cmu.edu>, mb5g+@andrew.cmu.edu (Marcus Wil
helm Banzhaf) writes:
>
>
>Anyone out on the net have any idea with whats going on with Leon
>Searcy.  I'm an avid Steeler fan and still have heard very little about
>him.  Cope and Fleming never mention him on the telecasts and I haven't
>heard much talk about him in the local talkshows either.  I read a small
>article where the coaches said not to worry about Searcy and that he was
>coming along fine.  Is it a case of another first round mistake for the
>Steelers in this years draft.  I mean if this guy is below Ariel Solomon
>on the depth chart, something must be wrong.  Granted the offensive line
>is playing well, but Searcy was a guy projected to anchor the Steeler
>offensive line for years to come.  I'm starting to think that he hasn't
>been given a fair chance.  Obviously, he had plenty of practice blocking
>legitimate defensive lineman back at Miami - both in practice and in
>games.  I find it hard to believe the scouts could have been wrong about
>him.  Well, if anyone has any information about Searcy, I wold really
>appreciate it.
>
>-marc
>

The only thing i have on Leon Searcy is what is printed in the STEELERS media
guide.  I'll send it to anyone who wants it, or post it if I get a lot of
requests.
-- 


Tom Schmidlin       DEEP THOUGHTS: By Jack Handey - I wish a robot would
TES0@LEHIGH.EDU         get elected president.  That way, when he came
215-758-0875            to town, we could all take a shot at him and not
                        feel too bad.
From: v079m8ta@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (JONNY B. GOODE)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Countdown to extinction (for Miami)
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:37:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <BxI7Lx.GAu@encore.com>, jsosa@encore.com (Joe Sosa) writes...
>In <BxI5y5.EEI@acsu.buffalo.edu> kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes:
> 
>| Only 6 days until the big AFC East game Monday night. It's countdown to
>| extinction from the division title for the fish. Oh, wait a minute. The
>| Fins are good now. They beat the Dolts. Whoa! Stand back.
>| Don't worry Miami, there's always next year.
> 
>Ooooh, and the Bills eeked out a win against the Patsies two weeks ago!
> 
>Big guns Kelly, so how's that elbow? :)

	Ummm....let's see.  His elbow was healthy enuf to throw 3 TD passes.
I'll take it.

> 
>Joe Sosa



Jon
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From: rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith)
Subject: Re: 49ers/Cardinals
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 04:29:11 GMT

mzimmers@netcom.com (Michael Zimmers) writes:

>>Correct me if I'm wrong, but Dallas is the only team with a winning record
>>that hasn't lost to a team with a losing record.

>1. Consider yourself corrected (Aints).

   Also, the Broncos at 5-3 (lost to: Eagles 5-3, Skins 5-3, Chargers 4-4)
             Oilers at 5-3 (lost to: Steelers 6-2 twice, Broncos 5-3)
             Eagles at 5-3 (lost to: Chiefs 4-4, Skins 5-3, Dallas 7-1)

     Where did that original theory come from?
-- 
______________________________________________________________________________
|rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu           Ross Smith              smith@oscar.udel.edu|
|    "I really hate that dog...." - Dr. Chase Matthews, Pet Semetary 2       |
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From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Importance of a powerful running game
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:16:28 GMT
 <1992Nov02.180114.957@NeoSoft.com> <1992Nov3.215104.29340@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>
Distribution: usa,local
Organization: University of Arizona
Nntp-Posting-User: f67700241

In article <1992Nov3.215104.29340@galileo.physics.arizona.edu>, krueger@galileo.physics.arizona.edu (Ted Krueger) writes:
> In article <1992Nov02.180114.957@NeoSoft.com> claird@NeoSoft.com (Cameron Laird) writes:
>>How do you rate the '85 Pats, or the various
>>Bronco Super Bowl teams?
> 
> The '85 Pats had a 1000 yard rusher (the other guy from SMU w Dickerson)

Otherwise known as Craig James.  His brother Chris at least is still in
baseball, playing for the SF Giants.

I would rate the Bronco super bowl teams as having a weak rushing game.
All they had was Elway, the Three Amigos, and luck (Browns fans know
this).
-- 
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
TWO MONTHS, 15 DAYS TO GO!
From: cs92aja@cen.ex.ac.uk (A.J.Amsel)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: SEAHAWKS MAILING LIST DONEish
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:25:14 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Computer Unit. - University of Exeter. UK

This is the Emailing list so far for the Seattle Seahawks
If you are not on it then write to me with your address and you
will be placed on it. If you are on it and don`t want to be then why
did you write to me in the first place !?

A brief message has been sent out already and if you did not receive
it then I have got your address wrong !

My Alias file is as follows for the Seahawks although different systems
use aliases in different ways !

Seahawks = Seattle Seahawks = Jay, Don, Jim, Richard, Brian
                              Rob, Dale, Mehawk, Dave, JP, Steven

Jay = Jay Wade = JLW154@EDU.PSU.PSUVM
Don = Don Sowell = quendor@edu.washington.u
Jim = Jim Privat = jimp%com.hp.mayfield.hpwss401@uk.co.hewlett-packard.hpl
Richard = Richard Malcom = R.C.Malcom@uk.ac.newcastle
Brian = Brian Kendrick = bgk2001@edu,bgsu.andy
Rob = Rob = Stretz@edu.washington.u
Dale = Dale Stephenson = steph@edu.uiuc.cs
Mehawk = Alex Amsel = A.J.Amsel@uk.ac.ex.cen
Dave = Dave Jorgan = jorgand@sumax.seattleu.edu
JP = J P Northcote = pnorthco@cs.strath.ac.uk
Steven = Todman = v050jsh4@ubumsb.cc.buffalo.edu



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