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From: zyoung@engr
Subject: Looking for Wang2 Yu4 Lan2, Ju1 Zheng4 Wen2
Summary: Looking for Wang2 Yu4 Lan2, Ju1 Zheng4 Wen2 from Nanjing
Keywords: Looking for Wang2 Yu4 Lan2
Reply-To: zyoung@engr.mun.ca
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Distribution: sco.culture.china
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 14:49:02 GMT

Dear netters:

I am looking for Wang2 Yu4 Lan2 and Ju1 Zheng4 Wen2 from the Nanjing University,
who may be studying in the Dept of Computer Science and Engineering at the
North Carolina State University. However, I don't know their exact address.
Any information about them is appiciated (e-mail addr., home addr. or phone #).
Please give the feedback information to

    chai@garfield.cs.mun.ca      or

    zyoung@engr.mun.ca

Thanks a lot.

Chai2 Wen2 Mao4

From Nanjing


Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: mario@meng.emory.edu (** maestro **)
Subject: test.maestro
Summary: none
Keywords: none
Reply-To: mario@meng.emory.edu
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 18:48:24 GMT

test.test.
test
test

maestro Can
From: wang@math.psu.edu (Feng Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: puzzle?
Date: 16 Dec 92 00:39:28 GMT
Reply-To: wang@math.psu.edu
Organization: Dept. of Mathematics, Penn State University

In article AA16705@euler.Berkeley.EDU, xiaohan@euler.Berkeley.EDU (Xiaohan Yun) writes:
>
> i heard this long time ago, after talked this puzzle to my
>officemates during coffe break, their comment was ' uhmmm...
>stooooooopid'; but we got a good laugh at it, so here we gooooo....
>
>let's say, there is an intellegent cow who is facing west,
>and here is an boring fellow counting number from 1 to 100;
>when the cow hears a number it'll turn accordingly:
>if the number is a multiple of 2 then the cow turns 90 degree clockwise;
>if the number is a multiple of 3 then the cow turns 90 dreee counter-
>clockwise;
>if the number is a muliple of both 2 and 3, then the cow turns 180 degree;
>all other numbers, the cow stands still.
>
>the question is: after the fellow finishes counting from 1 to 100,
>which direction is the cow's tail points at?
>
>Xiaohan
>




Down.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan,soc.culture.hongkong
Subject: Is Taiwanese CHinese?
Date: 12 Dec 92 21:21:14 GMT
Reply-To: yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Dec9.220621.7872@cbnews.cb.att.com> liaohen@cbnews.cb.att.com (Heng-Hsin Liao) writes:
>From article <1992Dec9.152957.5887@eng.ufl.edu>, by jfl@crow.eel.ufl.edu (Yu-Fung Liu):

> ......
>
>By the same token, if you are right, then Taiwanese is not any more
>Chinese. Just a joke?
>
>No, it's not a joke. Taiwanese is not Chinese. (Strictly, if you will,)
>Chinese only associates with China. Taiwan is not part of China.
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  
>Therefore Taiwanese is NOT Chinese.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>
>Heng-Hsin

Really? Then what? Republic of Taiwan? I checked the whole library and
only find the Republic of China. Shall we go back to school and learn
history again.

Also I checked the statistics about US population. They devide the
people associated with US into non-Hispanic white, Hispanic, African
American and Asia American. Quite confused. People also use word ABC
(American Born Chinese). According to (may I call you by last name?) 
Heng-Hsin's definition they are all American. But people still call
them Chinese (because they have yellow skin and black hair?). 

From the GNP data, Taiwanese made big fortune in the 80's. Now Science 
and technology is so developed that doctor can change a male into a
female as long as you have money to pay the bill. If somebody don't 
think himself to be Chinese while he has nothing to distinguish
himself from a typical Chinese, why don't he spend a bit of his
fortune to change something in his body so that tomorrow morning 
when people see him on the street, everybody think that, oh this is a
Taiwanese, not Chinese.

Guo-Xiang

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: qye@next6 (QIAN YE)
Subject: Re: What is Mathematics (Was Re: a math problem for those who ...)
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:05:09 GMT

In article <BzBDy2.Dzp@cs.psu.edu> wang@math.psu.edu (Feng Wang) writes:
> In article 6106@netcom.com, alm@netcom.com (Andrew Moore) writes:
> >I like to think that math exists only in the human mind (i.e.,  "God
> >gave us numbers - all else is the work of man.").   And this makes
> >sense, since the real world is not always so logical!
> >-Andrew Moore <alm@netcom.com>
> 
> 
> 
> I read the following article in sci.math, maybe some people will be  
interested.
> 
> ---------BEGIN INCLUDED MESSAGE----------------------------------
> 
> 	Mathematics is undefineable!!!
> 
> 	To ask what the definition of Mathematics is, is to as what  
Mathematics 
> is about, and Mathematics is about everything and nothing  
simultaneously.
> 
> 	Is Mathematics about numbers?   -- What about shapes?
> 	Is Mathematics about shapes?    -- What about chaos?
> 	Is Mathematics about chaos?     -- What about functions?
> 	Is Mathematics about functions? -- What about sets?
> 	Is Mathematics about sets?      -- What about anything?
> 
> 	Are you getting the picture yet?  Everytime you put a label on
> Mathematics, you limit Mathematics!  Any limitation on Mathematics is 
> anti-Mathematical.  Mathematics is about whatever you desire!
> 
> 	It is problem solving, it is game playing, it is paper folding, it
> is map drawing, it is 1+1=2, it is d(sin x)/dx = cos x, it is balancing  
your
> check book, it is driving from home to work, it is dialing your SO's  
phone
> number, it is even house painting, lawn mowing and Christmas shopping!
> 
> 	Mathematics is the study of axiomatic systems, yet Mathematics is
> a-axiomatic.  Mathematics is the study of order, yet Mathematics is  
chaotic. 
> Mathematics is the study of the world, yet Mathematics is ethereal. 
> Mathematics is ??????????
> 
> 	The more you learn about Mathematics, the more you realize how  
vast
> Mathematics is and how little Mathematics you know. More and more people  
learn
> every day that Mathematics is an integral part of their lives.  More and  
more
> people learn every day that Mathematics does not stop at the class room,  
the
> office, or the check-book.  More and more people learn every day that
> Mathematics permiates every pore of mankind and every particle of the 
> universe.  
> 
> 	Mathematics is best defined as MATHEMATICS!
> 
> 
> 	The Earth may crumble, the Heavens may fall, Christ may destroy  
the
> universe as we know it, but if there is one constant in Heaven and  
Earth, I
> believe that constant is MATHEMATICS.
> 
> 
> 	       		GOD IS A MATHEMATICIAN
> 			(with a sense of humor)
> 
> 
> 
> 	Ken Hill
> 	--------
> 	KHILL@VAX1.UMKC.EDU
> 
> ---------END INCLUDED  
MESSAGE-----------------------------------------------
Mathematics is something studied by a group of people who call themselves  
mathematicians.
From: yeh@netix.com (Mr Shannon Yeh)
Subject: Yes, those blood-card-ers are "running dogs"  (Re: running dogs)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Organization: Netix Communications, Inc.
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:51:09 GMT


  __|__    __\__    ----             |----|    /   /__   |==|  _\ /__\__
   /|-|    |---|     /|\    Dare     ||==||   /|-|   |  -----   |/| -|-
  / |-|      /|/    / | \            |____|    |-| \ |    /|-   | | -|-    ?
    |-|      /|\      |                        |_|  \|   /\|__  |/|__|__
             \|

 _|_ |--|     |     |----|   /   /__   _|_ __\__  _|_ __|_  _|_  /_\
  |/ |_||  |==|==|  |----|  /|-|   |   /|\ ||=||  /|\  /|    |/ |---|
 /|  |        |     | -|-|   |-| \ |    |   |      |  / |   /|  |   |
 \|  |___\    |     |__|\|   |_|  \|    |   |=|    |   \|   \|  |___|
                    |____|

  ---  |     __\/__    |-----|   __|__    |=| |=|   /  /__  |==| _\ /__\__
  /_\ ||      -|-      |-----|  __\|/__   ___|__\  /|-|  | -----  |/| -|-
  _|_ ||    -------    |--|--|    /|\        /\     |-| /|  /|--  | | -|-  ?
 __|__\|    ---|---    |__|\_|   / | \      /  \    |_| \| /\|__  |/|__|__
               /\      |_____|     |       /    \


   |__   \ /___   _|_  /_\  _|_ ---  /  /__   |==|    _\ / __\__
   |         |/    |/ /---   |/  |  /|-|  |  ------    |/|  -|-
 __|___  /  /\    /|  --|-- /|   |   |-| /|    /|--    | |  -|-     ?
                  \|    /\  \|  \|   |_| \|   /\|___   |/|___|___

  \  ---    -----   -----  __|__    _\ /__    __|\_  |=|  |    /    / |=|
  \ --|--    /|\     |\   ___|___    | ___     \|/  __|_ ||   /\   /|__|__
    |---|   / | \    | \    /        |   |     /|\    /| ||  /  \   | /|\
  |/|___|     |      |     /____\    |/  |__\  \|    /\| \| /    \  |/ | \


 _|_ _\__   /  /__  --/   |==|    _\ / __\__
  |/|___|  /|-|  |  \/   ------    |/|  -|-
 /| |       |-| /|  /\     /|--    | |  -|-    ?
 \|/        |_| \| /  \   /\|___   |/| __|__


shannon
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.taiwan
From: yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: math problem
Date: 15 Dec 92 22:15:39 GMT
Reply-To: yush@buengc.bu.edu (Guo-Xiang Yu)
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Distribution: usa
Organization: College of Engineering, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

I am sick and tired of the fightings between some mainlanders and taiwaneses.
So, I try to solve the following math problem someone posted:

>
>There is a polynomial:
>       -a*y**n + y**(n-1) + y**(n-2) + ... + y + 1 = 0
>where real number a>0 and the notation "y**n" represents the nth power of y.
>It's conjectured that this polynomial has a unique positive real solution y.

Let f(y) denote the polynomial. I would further claim that:
   (1) f^(i)(y), (i=0,1,...,n-1) has only one real positive root. 
       ( f^(i)(y) denote the i-th derivative of f(y) )
   (2)  The root of f^(i)(y) is larger than that of f^(i+1)(y).

The following proof use induction.
step 1:  f^(n)(y) = -a*n! < 0 and f^(n-1)(y) = -a*n!*y + (n-1)!
	 f^(n-1)(0) > 0 and it is decresing. (Yes! For n-1 it is true.)
step 2:  Assume f^(i)(y) has only one real positive root x.
step 3:  Proof for i-1: 
	 Since f^(i)(0) > 0, f^(i-1) is incresing between 0 and x and 
	 decresing after x. 
	 Now f^(i-1)(0) > 0, so f^(i-1)(x) > 0. Hence f^(i-1)(y) = 0
	 only at some y>x.

  Guo-Xiang
	   
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.taiwan,talk.politics.china
From: y70q@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca (LAM)
Subject: Re: Chinese Running Dog
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 04:16:55 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.164824.14741@dsg.tandem.com> leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung) writes:
>
>> ... What makes you think that Hong Kong
>> people are running dogs? Just because they live under British rule? ...
>
>Right on! This is the by-now-famous-CRD's own confession (see 
><mKS=!Y@engin.umich.edu> by Jxxx Chen):

So... I lived in my parents' home, then will I be my parent's
running dog? Then all the robbers and thiefs in HK are also running
dogs for British government? The new born baby in HK who doesn't
know anything is also a running dog, although it doesn't still know
how to run?

>See this Chen Jxxx's mentality: One can survive only as a running dog
>in a society. So, as I survive (and probably in the upward move) under 
>CCP's rule, why shouldn't I be pround of being a running dog? And
>if you survive under the British rule, then you must be a running dog.

You are totally wrong. Running dogs don't have their own mind, but
HK people have. Here, it seem that you are too stupid to make clever
decisions, so you want to be a running dog of other people who will
give you benefit.

Again, I will consider this message as a joke only. No one (except
Jian Chen) like to be a dog. A dog must always follow a master, but
who want to follow a master forever? Clever man will always improve
themselves and try to be a master of others. Only stupid people will
never improve themselves and follow the masters, hoping that the
master will give them some bones, but they never care that the bones
are sucked from other people.
From: s245@cs.utexas.edu (Spring Class Account)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: articles from pro-chinese
Date: 13 Dec 92 07:22:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: nada.lin3bbINNopi
Distribution: soc
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: nada.cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Dec13.4298.40275@dosgate> "micky wong" <micky.wong@canrem.com> writes:
>I recall that your original statement was " If an election were held in
>China today, CCP will win a landslide "   :-)

  The statement still stands, unless you can find a replacement for the CCP.

-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  I have deleted a lot of stuffs, and I agree with you on those points.

>>>China's recent economic growth had proofed one thing, that is the
>>>immense creative power of the Chinese people, what  the CCP did is no
>>>more than loosen a little bit, of it's tight grip onto the Chinese
>>>people, how can you credit all the recent progress in China to the
                       ^^^^^^^^^^
>>>"Glory of the CCP"?

  Where did you get this?

  Some people may not want to give CCP any credits for China's economic

  progress, but the majority of the Chinese people might.

>Glad that you do agree with the above view. It seems that as long as we
>give CCP a chance to survive, you'll agree.     :-)

  What is the alternative?

  I don't see a different solution other than a bloody revolution.
From: yao@ee.rochester.edu (Meng Yao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 24 points poker game: answer and new game.
Date: 16 Dec 92 02:28:54 GMT
Organization: Univ of Rochester, College of Engineering and Applied Science

In article <798@blue.cis.pitt.edu> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>In article <BzBsI0.Co6@news.iastate.edu> zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo) writes:
>>
>>Can we use the operation of taking the sqaure root?
>
>No no, this one doesn't need even fractionals as the first one.
>
>-- 
>//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.

Answer: (10*10-4)/4

Meng
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: How Turkic are the "Uygurs" (Was Re: Russian in Xinjiang)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:20:48 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.203427.5829@news.acns.nwu.edu> carl_@nwu.edu  writes:
>From facial characteristics, Uygurs look much Turk than Kazakhs. Are Kazakhs  
>mixture of Turks and Mongolians?

Difficult to say, because the Mongolians' reign was very short-lived,
XinJiang had been an area where Turkistan had invaded in Qing Dynasty. 
Did this imply that Turks might also emigrate there for a long time?

There were too many nomadic people in the huge rigion, it is not easy to make
judgement.

>By the way, Is the word China related to the word "Khitan (Qidan)"? I was told  
>in Russian, a word which sounds very similar to "Khitan" is used to describe  
>people from China.

The reason might be just that Qidan was to (the) northwest of China(people
from FuJian may refer Hunanese as northerners). Russia, once a very small state, 
was so remote at the time Qidan was strong. Misconception might also be casued by
historical transitions during the period.
From: jfeng@vax.cns.muskingum.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Is Chairman Mao God?
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:33:03 GMT
Organization: Muskingum College


In article <313.9212151719@subnode.bradford.ac.uk>, 90908648@bradford.ac.uk writes:
> 
> This is a serious qeustion, not a joke. Just imagine,
> Chairman Mao was born on 26 December! One day after
> Jesus was born! Was it merely coincidence? Doubtful.
> Although both of them are dead, they always live in 
> people's hearts! Everywhere we see their pictures! Read their
> instructions! Lots of songs and peoms are devoted to them!
> Both of them are revered! When a SCC get exited, s/he would say:
> "I can swear before Chairman Mao!" Cab drivers in Beijing
> hang a mini-portrait of Mao in front of them to deter evils.
> I am seriously considering hanging one in my room.
>  
   ** That is a very interesting comparison though, it does not make Chairman
Mao God at all. Neither Mao's birthdate (quite a coincidence) or his legacy
(good or bad?) makes him God.  It is our stupidity and blind worship that
created the Monster who nearly destroyed our nation. That some people are now
beginning to worship Mao again simply reaffirms nothing but their stupidity and
ignorance. Haven't we had enough miseries under Mao?  Or are just cherishing
the memory of those good old days?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: ping@bnlux1.bnl.gov (Shiping Zhang)
Subject: Re: fun problem No.2
Organization: Brookhaven National Laboratory, Upton, NY 11973
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:21:39 GMT


  Now I agree on 2/3.  My reasoning (to myself) is that, under the
  circurmstance specified, the guest will win the car if he/she
  switches IF his/her first choice is a goat.

-ping

Xref: sparky soc.culture.china:32612 soc.culture.hongkong:16259 soc.culture.asian.american:10766
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china,soc.culture.hongkong,soc.culture.asian.american
Subject: Chinese word processor uploaded
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:03:08 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.china
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: yding@unixd1.cis.pitt.edu

I have uploaded dngdng12.zip and dngdng12.doc to cs.pitt.edu 
(130.49.2.61) under directory /pub/incoming.  

This is a Chinese word processor for IBMPC+MSDOS.  It support window and
pinyin inputs.  Postscript can change fonts and scale them to any size.

I left gb2text in the shareware package so that people can use it to
post articles in Chinese :-)

--- People who don't have PS printer:

You can print PS file to most printers using ghostscript.  You need
download file gs252286.zip and gs252ini.zip in 128.252.135.4 directory
mirrors/msdos/postscript.  After unzip them, you can print to laserjet 3
for example with:

  gs -sDEVICE=ljet3 myfile.ps quit.ps

If you have disk space, you might also get 24courer.zip and
gs252win.zip.  I don't have PS printer.  I developed my ps program
mainly with help of gs252win (I like it very much).

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: z_yan@math.nwu.edu (Z. Yan)
Subject: Re: math problem
Organization: Dept of Math, Northwestern Univ
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 19:55:20 GMT

This is actually a very simple problem. And I think there are some
easier ways to solve it. Here is one of them.

Consider y>0 only. Dividing both sides by y and Letting x=1/y, we
have -a+x+x**2+....+x**n=0. The LHS is an increasing function when
x>0 since the derivative with respect to x is positive. It is -a<0
when x=0 and goes to infinity when x goes to infinity. So there 
must be a unique solution for x, thus for y too.
From: yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: An Old Arithmatic Problem
Date: 17 Dec 92 01:14:06 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <BzDGI5.D8C@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> b4k@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Ming Luo) writes:
>
>	Did you put more juice into water, or more water into juice?

Same amount :-)

-- 
//Yijun Ding, Pittsburgh //Go your way, be happy.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: dwong@chopsuey.pico ( paganini's admirer )
Subject: Re: Merry X'mas and Chairman Mao
Reply-To: dwong@chopsuey.pico
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:26:07 GMT

In article 142756XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu, <XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu> () writes:
>Dec. 26
>Hard to believe it.


In the early 50's, two of the China's socialistic greetings said, "Merry Christmas 
and 'Never Forget Class Struggles!'" & "'Hoist the 3 Red Flags'!". :-)  

FYI


David W.
From: wenz@ucs.orst.edu (Wen Zongyao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Character problem
Date: 14 Dec 92 08:35:09 GMT
Organization: University Computing Services - OSU
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucs.orst.edu

In article <608@blue.cis.pitt.edu> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>This should be easier than math problem.  Jzy originally posted the
>problem in rec.games.go.  I am proud of myself that I found 6 answers,
>one more than jzy asked for:) Here is goes:
>
>Construct a Chinese character with one proper stroke from the following:
>
>   -----------
>
>    +-------+
>    |       |
>    +-------+
>
>So far, 6 answers...

     |       ~~~~~~~~~~|~~      /  
-----+-----    |~~~~|  |   ----|-------  
     |         |    |  |      / _____  
|~~~~~~~~~|     ~~~~   |    /  |     |  
|         | ,        __|, /    |_____|  
 ~~~~~~~~~ 
                                        | 
|~~~~~~~~~~~     ~~~~/~~~~~~~     ------+------ 
|  |~~~~~|         / |~~~~|     |~~|    + 
|  |     |       /   |____|     |__|    | 
|   ~~~~~                               | 
 ~~~~~~~~~~~ ,               ,

   ~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~     ~~~~~~~~~~~~| 
|~~~|      |              ~~~~~~~   |  
|   |      |              |~~~~~~|  |  
|___|      |              |______|  |  
         __|      ,               __|  

It's very much depend on where you put the horizontal stroke.

 
|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|
|  Wen Zongyao  | Department of Biochemistry & Biophysics |
|_______________| College of Science                      |
|               | Oregon State University                 |
|  ~{NDWZR"~}   | Came From ~{DO?*4sQ'~}                  |
|_______________|_________________________________________|
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wendong@uhunix.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (Wen-Dong Tang)
Subject: To J Su 
Organization: University of Hawaii
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 06:13:04 GMT

Just read your long article about 20 million political prisoners in China.

Do you have any evidence against this number? If not, please shut up!

I can not prove it true of false, so I won't say anything on that.