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From: ashish@baervan.nmt.edu (Ashish Kumar Banik)
Subject: Test
Organization: Petroleum Recovery Research Center, NMIMT
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 17:34:12 GMT

This is a Test. Please ignore it.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen)
Subject: Re: Pirithi re pirithi
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:40:00 GMT
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In article <1992Oct14.063650.13760@wam.umd.edu> tanmon@next02pg2.wam.umd.edu (Tanveer Chowdhurm) writes:
  
   Can anybody tell me what is the defination of Love.
----

E ki, rath birath e baul, deoana type der posting!

Shonen bhai, America e eyshob bhalobasha, prem pirithi r kono jaiga nai. Shada
maiyya ra jokhon ningre ga er theke prothi ta kana kori ber kore felbe, thokhon
ey kotha r shottyotha bujhben.



"Prem Pirithi Bhalobasha
 Du din er i melamesha
 Thakena
 Chirodin thakena"
	[Ajom Khan]

"Premer o bajar e
 Kotho premik ghure
 Koijonai ashol premik re"
	[Ajom Khan]

"Mon ki je chai bolo
 Jare dekhi lage bhalo"
	[Souls]

"Rokeya Hall e tanki marthe gie 
 Je jon kheyeche thara
 Shei jane premer jathona"
	[Jonoiko Mojnu]



Ar jeshob tout jonogon prem er name foshti noshti the rotho, thader jonnyo onno
dhoron er gan er koli:

"Ki je koro
 Charo achol
 Lok e bolbe ki

 Na Na
 Shore thako"


-Naeem
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From: naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen)
Subject: umrikan uni in dhaka
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 02:54:56 GMT
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In article <1992Oct7.173255.2235@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> shanto@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:

   By the way, do any of you know what came of the plans of introducing an 
Ameri-   can University in Bangladesh?
-----

Muslehuddin Ahmed has been trying for last four years. He had problems with
permission, then with funding is what I heard. The names of affiliated US
institutions that I had initially heard were not too promising, but that
may have changed. He is looking for help [financial probably] from bengalis
in diaspora.

Also heard rumor that Johurul Islam was competitor, seems a little unlikely.


   Ai deshe manoosh thake??
------

Prothom prothom shobai eyshob bole. Tharpor dekhi char pach bochor por shona
jai onno kotha:
	Bangladesh e manush e thake
	Etho dhula bali
	Etho traffic jam
	Amar full potential realized hobe na
	I can make more valuable contribution from here
	..etc

[ami o bad nai eyshob theke]   :-)


Naeem Mo
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From: tanmon@next04pg2.wam.umd.edu (Tanveer Chowdhurm)
Subject: hard
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 08:16:29 GMT

Computer Science is so hard in UMCP. Here I am busting my ass in the lab.  
4 'O clock in the morning. Shit man. Why does life suck?? R all these work  
gonna pay off in the long run. I dont know. Wish me Luck guys. 

					---->Tanveer<---

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My Love is a flame that burns in your name.
					--Sting
So long, it was so long ago, but I still got the blues for you.
						---Garymoor
Running to stand still.
			
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From: bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: Bangladeshi recipe
Date: 15 Oct 92 16:45:25 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI

In article <1992Oct15.161536.15325@honte.uleth.ca> buchignani@hg.uleth.ca writes:
>thanks for the rash-golla recipe. I'm a sucker for sweets, so
>will try it soon.
>
>    Norm Buchignani/University of Lethbridge/BUCHIGNANI@HG.ULETH.CA
>"If we have been accustomed to deplore the spectacle...of a workman occupied
>during his whole life in nothing else but the making of knife-handles or pins'
>heads, we may find something quite as lamentable in the intellectual class, in
>the exclusive employment of a human brain in resolving some equations, or in
>classifying insects. [This] occasions a miserable indifference about the
                                                   ----------------------
>general course of human affairs, as long as there are equations to solve and
 ------------------------------- 

Such as consuming rash-gollas ?  :-) 

>pins to manufacture."                                      Auguste Comte
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From: mkaziz@vela.acs.oakland.edu (KHALED AZIZ)
Subject: Re: He should have never done it.. II
Organization: Oakland University, Rochester MI.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:49:25 GMT

In article <1992Oct14.140450.11790@udel.edu> kazi@dobie.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi) writes:
>
>He should have never done it. His insignificant life  flashed  in
>front  of  his eyes as he hung on for dear life. Memories sad and
>memories happy. Memories of his family. Memories  of  addas  with
>his  friends.  Memories  of love. The compendium of little events
>that comprised his life.
>
>There was a sudden jolt, and he almost lost his  precarious  hold
>on  life.  For an infinite moment he he was scrambling in the air
>and Death looked into his eyes  and  beckoned.   In  a  desperate
>gamble  his fingers found something to grab  and his toes found a
>foothold.
>
>He was safe again. Just barely,  though.  A  mechanical  behemoth
>careened  past  him  within inches. The blast of wind in its wake
>buffeted him with a malign fury. "I want you!", it shrieked.
>
>He should have never done it....
>
>
>
>He should have never got on to a Mirpur Bus during rush hour.
>
>-- Zunaid Kazi
>   kazi@cis.udel.edu
>
>


He was there, as usual, trying to get his homeworks done at the library.  As 
always he took a study break after a while.  He went downstairs, to the 
computer room.  What could possibly be more relaxing than taking a quick
glance at SCB?  He feels homesick when he is under too much stress.  SCB 
has the power to make him feel better.

But alas!  It wasn't his day.  It wasn't what he expected.  He rushed out
of the computer room as if his life was under threat.  He ran upstairs.  Soon
he was found helplessly wondering through about 50 huge looking lexicons,
old and new, Brithish and American, 17th century and 20th century.

He should have never done it...




He should have never read the article "He should have never done it...II",
posted by Mr. Zunaid Kazi.




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From: tahassan@lonestar.utsa.edu (Tawfiq . Hassan)
Subject: Adda
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:38:29 GMT

Hi guys!

Recently I got hold of a new(?) bengali newsletter called Adda.
I don't know how or who I received it from but would like to
know more about it.  The copy that I have does not contain any
address of Adda.  I don't even know how to subscribe to it.

Could anybody please feed some more info regarding Adda and how
it works (like where does it get published? who are the people
that takes care of it? how do you subscribe to it? etc.).  I am
sure putting it on the SCB will get it more exposure than any
where else.  Thanks in advance.

Hassan
UTHSC & UTSA
From: misra@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Boo!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: News
Date: 8 Oct 1992 03:28:33 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed) writes:

>The Indian government claim they are Bangladeshi citizens. Most of
>them were originally from Bangladesh but have lived in India for over
>30 years or so and most of them have Indian ration cards and ids. Some

	what does living in india for 30yrs have to do with it? I could 
	evade the INS and live here for 30 years but if i get caught
	they will send me back. If some of them are not citizens of Bd
	then that must be rectified, but someone is a citizen then 
	they must return regardless of how long they have lived in india.
From: ahsana@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: <None>
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:15:11 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia



              WHY NOT MORE NEWS IN SCB ??
From: b038zaf@utarlg.uta.edu ( ( IMTI ))
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Looking for Taher!!!!
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:43:00 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I'm trying to get in touch with Ali Noor Siddique (Taher), who 
went to DU (Applied Physics). He should be somewhere in New Maxico
right now. I'm at b038zaf@utarlg.uta.edu.  Thanks.

Imtiaz Kabir
Arlington, TX
USA.
From: misra@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Boo!)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: News
Date: 9 Oct 1992 01:04:04 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
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sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed) writes:

>cards and are registered voters. Most of them claimed that they voted
>in the last election. If you lived here and have a green card or are a
>registered voter (of course here everyone has to have a passport) you
>are definitely a us citizen.

	you seem to be pointing out the legal means of staying.. as i 
	understand these are illegal people.. i hardly see the 
	connection between green card and illegal Bd's in india.
	
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From: sahmed@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Saif Ahmed)
Subject: Re: **Define LOVE**
Organization: Oberlin College Computer Science
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:30:06 GMT
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In article <1992Oct14.063650.13760@wam.umd.edu> tanmon@next02pg2.wam.umd.edu (Tanveer Chowdhurm) writes:

   Can anybody tell me what is the defination of Love. A friend of mine has  
   got an essay to write. 

Love is what you don't have if you're posting at 3 in the morning :)

Saif


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Subject: soliloquy
From: shanto@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 9 Oct 92 15:35:24 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

Hi this is the guy from Da House ( that's what they call Morehouse  here)

It's a Friday but life goes on as usual in this stoopid country ,doesn't it?
It's 4.30 now and if I was in Bangladesh I'd probably be watching the Movie
of the  Week now. By the way, fothose of who who have been out of the
country for aeons, I'd like to add here that lately they've been showing some
really cool movies -- when harry met sally, peggie sue got married. What I mean
is, they don't show "mandatta amoler" movies anymore.

The point of my typing in this entry is that I'm BORED! I've been sitting
heretryinng to call a few of you thru the telnet system but none of you seem to
be logged in. And here I am,staring at a blank screen for eternity!! No one
submits in any interesting news item either. Gosh, life is BORING in this land
of so-called "opportunity"!

Isn't it ironic that aami Atlantay boshe CNN dekhte paari na whereas Dhakar
publicra chaame dekhche??

The same with MTV. Or with the new eric clapton or roger waters album. dhakay
thakle getting these recorded would have been no big deal, but ekhane 1 taka
khoroch korte geleo gaye lage. Particularly if you are a bekaar like me.

Gosh, this entry is no more interesting than the ones already in. I was reading
this ditty a few minutes ago,sent in by mkaziz ( I think!) entitled "He
shouldn't have done it". That was great! Dhoor,ekhane boshe Abahoni-Mohammedan
er exciting khela gularo khobor pawa jai na. I have to content myself with
watching football.

By the way, do any of you guys LIKE football? Please let me know, because
somehow I find myself in the stadium every saturday afternoon eating popcorns
and yelling my lungs off. I like football, for some strange unexplained
reason.Maybe, I'm becoming more "Americanised" than I think!! GULP!!

Are any of you interested in the new bands that are booming like mushrooms
every day. Some of them are excellent. I wish I was home listening to those
instead of getting "end of the line" jammed down my ears every time I go to eat
at the cafeteria.Gosh, that song makes me lose my apetite. By the way, how many
of you like the food in your cafeteria? I have no problems with mine, but I
heard the food at BOWDOIN and CLARK is fab. Any Bowdoin-ians out there??

onek jaiga noshto korlam. It's almost 5.00.Since it's the beginning of the
weekend , my comp lab closes at 5.00 (the beauty of Morehouse). So hopefully,
whenI'll come to checkthe scb news tomorrow, i'll get some response to this
(good, bad or disgustingly ugly!)

saeed oct9 atlanta time:4.45pm

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From: bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya)
Subject: Re: How about an EEC type arrangement in our subcontinent? (wasRe: News)
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 17:07:47 GMT

>In article <samaddar.718571049@dumbo> samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar) writes:
> >bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya) writes:
> >
> >>powerful than the other two countries. So we will probably end 
> >>up with a scenario in which India misuses its disproportionately
> >>large economic strength to bully the other members of the community
> >>into submission.
> >
> >I don't get this. Exactly how would India do this? What provision in this
> >new "EEC-type arrangement" would be different from the existing situation
> >that would suddenly allow India to bully others into submission. Has any
> >state of India been bullied into economic submission?
>
>
  Yes. The state of West Bengal in India has suffered something very similar.
  In India, we have something called a "Freight Equalisation Policy" by virtue
  of which basic raw materials (like steel, coal etc) are supplied all over the    
  country at the same rate , irrespective of haulage costs. This means that 
  the eastern states of India , particularly Bihar and West Bengal, which are
  major producers of iron and coal, aren't allowed to make use of their 
  natural advantage of proximity to the basic raw materials. However, in the
  case of other goods, e.g. cotton,  there is no freight equalisation, so 
  West Bengal has to pay more for bringing cotton from more distant states .
  From West Bengal's point of view, this is actually a form of drainage of 
  resources .

  Incidentally , because of the above reasons, the Left Front state 
  government in West Bengal has long been demanding the abolition of
  the Freight Equalisation Policy.

  If the EEC-type agreement proposed by the original poster comes about,
  I am sure we will see more of this , at the trans-national level.

  Shubhecchante,

  -Sayan Bhattacharyya.

  P.S.  To SCB-ites : I apologise that this posting is related to West
        Bengal alone and isn't very relevant to soc.culture.bangladesh.
        But I posted instead of emailing Sumitro because I felt that 
        his public question merited an equally public response. Thanks.

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From: chakmaa@topaz.ucq.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Looking for freind
Date: 13 Oct 92 00:54:58 AET
Organization: University of Central Queensland, Australia

MONG TING ,

WHO PASSED OUT FROM THE BUET IN SESSION 1985-86
AND AT PRESENT WHO IS SUPPOSED TO BE IN HONOLULU,
HAWAII, (?) COULD PLEASE YOU CONTACT WITH ME. 

 
SHUBHESHCHANTE 

ANJAN 
UNIVERSITY OF CENTRAL QUEENSLAND
PH. 61-079-263248
From: samaddar@siemens.com (Sumitro Samaddar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: How about an EEC type arrangement in our subcontinent? (wasRe: News)
Date: 8 Oct 92 19:04:09 GMT
Reply-To: samaddar@siemens.com

bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya) writes:

>powerful than the other two countries. So we will probably end 
>up with a scenario in which India misuses its disproportionately
>large economic strength to bully the other members of the community
>into submission.

I don't get this. Exactly how would India do this? What provision in this
new "EEC-type arrangement" would be different from the existing situation
that would suddenly allow India to bully others into submission. Has any
state of India been bullied into economic submission? India may be accused
of politically oppressing individual states like Kashmir and Punjab, but that
is partly because of the fear of secession. But once any unifying forces like
the "EEC-type arrangement" emerge, these secessionist fears should subside.

Sumitro
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From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: boring
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 00:42:38 GMT

tanmon@next02pg2.wam.umd.edu (Tanveer Chowdhurm) writes:

>Why is SCB so boring..........
>		Tanveer




Because  S.C.I. and S.C.P.ian do not take part.


Bye
Adil


(just kidding)

P.S.- I found Mr.Kabir's article on Bangla literature very interesting.
From: anwar@bnr.ca (Shams Anwar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Re: <None>
Date: 8 Oct 92 16:33:16 GMT
Organization: BNR

In article <1992Oct7.151511.12637@topaz.ucq.edu.au>, ahsana@topaz.ucq.edu.au writes:
|> 
|> 
|>               WHY NOT MORE NEWS IN SCB ??

I believe you are are looking for News covering Bangladesh and Bangladeshi 
community ( otherwise CNN, local newspaper etc. will serve pretty well). If 
so, I suggest that you may consider subscribing to more than SCB. There are
two weeklies being published from NYC (PROBASHI and THIKANA) and one being  
published from CANADA (forgot the name, but read a post sometime back). 
There must be something like this also in Australia.  If you have a big 
Bangladeshi community in your school, you may try to convince your school 
librarian to subscribe to one of the leading newspapers of Bangladesh (some 
school libraries  already do this). Hope this will help you to quell your 
thrist for News.

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Shams.

EMAIL: Not accessible.

Bisso kobir Sonar Bangla, Nazrul-ar Bangladesh. Jibonananda-r ruposi bangla,
ruper je tar naiko sas -----   BANGLADESH.

Disclaimer: Views expressed here is none of my employer's or of anybody else's 
but mine. Views and facts presented in this article have no relationship with 
reality or anybody.
From: ghosh%bailey@cs.yale.edu (Bhaskar Ghosh)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Changing poems/songs into other Bengali dialects
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:34:04 GMT
Organization: /homes/na/ghosh/.organization
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In-reply-to: anwar@bnr.ca's message of Thu, 08 Oct 1992 16:33:16 GMT

In article <1992Oct08.163316.3524@bnr.ca> anwar@bnr.ca (Shams Anwar) writes:


   From: anwar@bnr.ca (Shams Anwar)
   Sender: news@bnr.ca (News on crchh327)
   Organization: BNR
   References:  <1992Oct7.151511.12637@topaz.ucq.edu.au>
   Date: Thu, 08 Oct 1992 16:33:16 GMT
   Lines: 30

  < Article deleted >

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   Shams.

   EMAIL: Not accessible.

   Bisso kobir Sonar Bangla, Nazrul-ar Bangladesh. Jibonananda-r ruposi bangla,
   ruper je tar naiko sas -----   BANGLADESH.
  		      ^^^^

Note the word marked above from Anwar's .signature in his posting. 
I remember hearing these two lines from the song in my childhood. 
The word used then was "shesh", not "sas" or "shash". I don't know 
which dialect the song  was originally composed in. 

I raise this question because i have noted at least in two postings on
scb in the past words from well known poems by Jibanananda Das being
changed into the East Bengali/Bangaldeshi dialect. In my knowledge
those poems were originally composed in the West-Bengali dialect.

The general question to be asked here is : is it permissible to change
a poem/song composed/written in the West-Bengali dialect to the
East-Bengali/Bangladeshi form or vice versa for public consumption?

Would i like to hear :

  Prohor "shasher" aaloy-ranga shedin "soitro" mash
  Tomar  "sokhey"  "dakhe-silem" aamar shorbonash |
					(Atindra in Robindronath's "Char Odhyay")

I don't think so. Because i feel the purity of a piece or poem should
be maintained as far as possible.  The rhythm, beauty and totality
of a poem is intimately tied to the language the poet expresses himself/herself
in, and i feel we should try to learn and enjoy it in the same form if 
possible.

What are the feelings of my Bangladeshi fellow folks in this regard ? Would they
object to Robindro-shongeet being sung in the Bangaldeshi dialect ? 

Let me mention in passing that i find the dialect across the Padma
extremely sweet and melodic lest people trace my question to a dislike
of the sound of Bangladeshi Bengali.

- bhaskar.
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