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From: eng10056@nusunix1.nus.sg (LAU YIN CHENG)
Subject: W4W problems - saving files
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 08:11:02 GMT

Hi there ,

I have got this problem with word for windows.

When I cut from a document and paste to another document, and when I
tried to save, the program gives me the message - files too large to
save....

The file is less than 150k.

Does anyone of you have this problem?

Please help if you have found how to recover from such situation.

I am using ver 2.0

Merry Christmas to all.

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: jahern@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu (Jud Ahern)
Subject: Re: Windows and NCSA telnet....
Originator: usenet@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 20:23:28 GMT
Reply-To: jahern@geohub.gcn.uoknor.edu
Organization: School of Geology and Geophysics, University of Oklahoma


In article <BzDv2A.H52@news.iastate.edu> rjhoffma@iastate.edu (Richard J. Hoffmann) writes:
>In article <BzDHwz.230@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ludirdja@cehp10 (Darmawan Ludirdja) writes:
>>Is there any way for NCSA telnet to work under Windows 3.1?
>>
>>Darmawan
>
>The distribution I got from Illinois comes with a pif that works fine
>for me.
>
>Dick
>
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>Ames, Iowa 50011

Dick [or anyone else, for that matter :) ]:

Will it run an FTP server session in the background? I.e., can
you start a telnet session, then go off and start another program
(in my case, a QuickBasic program) and still be able to FTP to
that machine? 

Thanks...

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From: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Macintosh SND to Windows
Date: 19 Dec 92 10:26:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434
Reply-To: vince.maiocco@satalink.com (Vince Maiocco) 

AB>Does anyone know of a converter that creates PC .WAV files from 
AB>Macintosh SND resource files?

Don't know if we're talking the same animal, here, but there's a 
utility that comes(I think) with the Soundblaster, called 
VOCHDR.EXE that puts a VOC header on .SND files.  Then you just 
use a shareware ditty called VOC2WAV.EXE to convert your new VOC 
file to .WAV format.
What I'm not sure of is whether the .SND files I'm talking about 
are the same ones you mean.
Hope this helps.


--- WinQwk 2.0 a#0
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.databases
From: lance@hartmann.austin.ibm.com (Lance Hartmann)
Subject: Re: windows databases - c
Summary: Windows databases, availability, pricing.
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 20:57:12 GMT
Reply-To: lance%hartmann.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com
Organization: IBM, Austin
Keywords: database paradox access foxpro microsoft windows
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.apps

In article <76.2B2B9479@cheswicks.toadnet.org> Don.Bueltmann@f119.n8012.z86.toadnet.org (Don Bueltmann) writes:
>
> MPM> everything Microsoft does is good, and it is only $99 for a while.
> MPM> But should I wait for Paradox for Windows. I have Paradox 3.5 for DOS,


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>
>Windows and therefore I wa eagerly waiting for Paradox fro Windows. At a
>Windows Exhibition in St. Louis I asked a couple of Reps from Borland what

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Has anyone heard any recent news updating the expected release of
FoxPro 2.5 for Windows?  I've seen a couple of ads in magazines,
but no "due dates".  I wonder how this will be marketed now that
Access is out....

Lance Hartmann (lance%hartmann.austin.ibm.com@ibmpa.awdpa.ibm.com)
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: spcberto@psyche.spc.uchicago.edu (Robert Osterlund)
Subject: Re: INFOSELECT FOR WINDOW
Organization: University of Chicago, SSPPCC
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:24:32 GMT

In article <72076@cup.portal.com> Darla@cup.portal.com (Kuby - Downs) writes:
>Vince,
>
>=>Could you tellme what this product is?  I haven't heard a word
>=>about it.
>=>L8r
>
>Info-Select is a free form database/pim that has many uses. You can
>use it for names/addresses, important dates, importing ascii files
>and storing information of all sorts.
>

My first significant uses for the product are:

--to replace the dozens of Post-It Notes and scraps of paper I have littering
  my desk and office wall
--to build an Internet News infobase--i.e., when I read an interesting/
  informative article, I add it to the Infoselect stack for that newsgroup

Steve Gibson (of SpinRite and Infoworld fame) has called Info Select "the
most useful software program I have ever owned."  If it helps me get a
handle on the great mass of information I face in my day-to-day work
(programming and Unix system administration), I would have to agree with
him.

Bob Osterlund
berto@clio.spc.uchicago.edu
SSPPCC--University of Chicago


Xref: sparky comp.os.ms-windows.apps:5975 misc.forsale.computers:43144
From: wizard@think.com (Paul Gilberti)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,misc.forsale.computers
Subject: Voice Mail/Messaging Hardware
Date: 11 Dec 1992 20:26:51 GMT
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: quicksilver.think.com

   I'm interested in putting a voice mail or a voice bulletin messaging
system on my 486/50.  Both for incoming and outgoing messages.

Can anyone recommend software and/or hardware, say like an internal board
for the 486 ?

Please email me and I will post a summary of the responses.
Thanks,

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: mattsen@microsoft.com (Matt Senft)
Subject: Re: Windows databases - commercial
Date: 15 Dec 92 03:18:52 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Dec10.205903.19876@netcom.com> jono@netcom.com (Jonathan Levine) writes:
>In article <maley.723878991@micro> maley@micro.cs.umn.edu (Michael P Maley) writes:
>>I have a question. I would like a database program for Windows. What
>>I don't know is which one to get. I have read many good reviews for
>>Approach v2.0 - which I think I can get the competitive upgrade for
>>until Dec. 30. I have not heard much about Access - but usually
>>everything Microsoft does is good, and it is only $99 for a while.
>>But should I wait for Paradox for Windows. I have Paradox 3.5 for DOS,
>>so I get the upgrade here too I think. I can't define my needs precisely
>>but any opinions would be greatly welcome - before 12/30. 
>
>Mike,
>
>   Approach and Access are quite different programs.  Approach is really
>an end-user database tool, great for creating forms, reports, mailing
>labels, etc.  Access is more of a programmer's database.  

I disagree that MS Access isn't a good end-user database tool.  See
below.

> For example, 
>if you want to validate data entry in a form, Approach allows you 
>to set data validations via a simple dialog, while Access requires
>you to write a macro.

This is rather easy to do in MS Access.  Double click on the field. 
You'll be given the properties window for that field.  Enter your
validation criteria under 'Validation Rule'.  You can enter a prompt 
for illegal entries under 'Validation Text'.  You could also have a
static combo box if your values never change. You could also have a
lookup value if it's based on other fields.  You could run it off a
query if the values are stored in a table.  And besides validation,
you can enter a Format in the same window.  You can use a macro but
you don't have too.  MS Access allows multiple ways to do many things.
For example if you are interested in learning all the interesting 
ways to do validation you can go into help or cue cards by either
pressing F1, or going to the help menu or pressing the help button
on the toolbar.  There are over half a dozen entries for validating
data, each with cross references, examples, and text.  Sorry, I
just couldn't let this pass.

>   Because Access uses ODBC, Approach will be much faster in accessing your
>existing Paradox data (is there an ODBC driver for Paradox now?)

You may want to bench mark this.

>   My impression is that Paradox for Windows will be more like Access than
>like Approach.
>Best, 
>Jon

Matt

Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: baileyc@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Christopher R. Bailey)
Subject: Help: Procomm Questions
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 00:55:59 GMT


I have two questsions about Procomm Plus for Windows.

In my user defaults settings, I have it set to have the action bar up, but
not the meta keys, yet when I come into Procomm, the meta keys are down there
at the bottom.  I turn them off.  Then, when I dial (maybe after connect)
they turn on again, yet my dialing dir entry has user defaults set.   
How do I keep that off???  Also, is there a way to turn off the action bar
once you've connected (other than via a script)???

Second, is there some kind of sleep command in the script language?  Right now
I'm just using an empty for loop.  I have a script that gets run upon
connection, but I want it to wait about 2 seconds before doing anything.  It
sends a couple of carriage returns as it's first thing so that I get a prompt.
Yet, if it sends them right away, they get lost.  I have the for loop at
1 upto 1000, seems to work most of the time, but I'd prefer to just wait lik
e 1-3 seconds.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: bsteinke@dsd.es.com (Bruce Steinke)
Subject: ADOBE TYPE ALIGN FOR SALE
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Reply-To: bsteinke@dsd.es.com (Bruce Steinke)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 92 19:45:36 GMT

I am selling Adobe's Type Align. It comes close, but doesn't quite do the
specific task I need done. Anyway, I didn't register it, so you get a
complete, registerable version (I have already removed it from my system).

Price at Egghead: $69

I will sell for $45 (shipping included). Please email responses. Thanks,

-Bruce

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: sichermn@csulb.edu (Jeff Sicherman)
Subject: Order of cell printing in Excel
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:36:34 GMT

  Is there any way to force MS Excel (v 3.0) to print spreadsheets whose
dimensions exceed a single page both column and row-wise to print the
multiple pages by first 'consuming' the columns and then proceeding to
the next set of rows ?  The reason this makes a difference is that I am
using a LJIID (duplex) and want the 'extra' columns to be on the back of
the page with the initial, primary columns.

  Does v 4.0 do something about this instead ?



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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: dxa@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (david.r.anolick)
Subject: Problem with DDE and Excel
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 20:18:01 GMT
Keywords: Excel DDE Q+E Oracle


*** PLEASE SEND REPLIES VIA EMAIL TO: hcj@garage.att.com
*** This is being posted for someone without current access to netnews.

I am using Q+E and Microsoft Excel 4.0 macros to access an Oracle database.
When I put the following formula into a cell on an Excel macrosheet, it
gets an #N/A. If I then put the cursor in the formula bar of the cell
and hit "enter", the formula is then evaluated and returns a number. Why
doesn't it work the first time?

=qe|'SELECT count(TRNO) FROM Oracle|ACTIVE_TR WHERE SYS = ''COMMKIT''
AND CONF_SEV <= ''2'' AND STAT <> ''CLOSED'' AND
(RTYPE=''DEFECT'' OR RTYPE=''SERVICE'' OR RTYPE=''NONE'')'!all

The same thing happens when I edit the COMMKIT to put in another value
for sys. I have to edit, enter, select formula bar, enter before I can
get a value.

I have been in touch with Microsoft support, and they haven't been
much help so far.  Anybody have an idea?

Harold C. Johnson
hcj@garage.att.com
(908) 580-5418
From: lclarke@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Lee Clarke)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: AmiPro or Word Perfict ??????
Date: 13 Dec 92 02:44:12 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

[amipro or wp for win? 123 or excel?]

Amipro is to Word Perfect what Word Perfect was to Word Star 3.3. I'm not
a big spreadsheet user, and I accept that Excel is superior, but one 
advantage to 123 is that if one has that AND Ami Pro, they work together well
(being born by the same mother and all).
Xref: sparky comp.os.ms-windows.apps:5986 comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc:6876
From: weiss@curtiss.seas.ucla.edu (Michael Weiss)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps,comp.protocols.tcp-ip.ibmpc
Subject: Re: TCP/IP, WFW, ethernet, and internet mail
Date: 10 Dec 92 23:37:25 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Organization: SEASnet, University of California, Los Angeles

In article <1fvotcINNnq8@tamsun.tamu.edu> cmenzel@tamsun.tamu.edu (Chris Menzel) writes:
>Will WFW allow one using a PC on a campus ethernet to use Microsoft
>mail (which, I understand, is bundled with WFW) to send and receive
>internet mail directly?  Thanx.

The answer is "yes," IF:
1)  a mail server is used on that LAN
           -AND-
2)  an Internet gateway is added to the mail server.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: rkl@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (kevin.laux)
Subject: Re: Videoblaster only works in Low Resolutions
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 18:35:37 GMT
Keywords: videoblaster

In article <1992Dec14.161828.3309@rdg.dec.com>, bowen@esdeng.enet.dec.com () writes:
> 
> I'm having problems with my Videoblaster.
> 
> If I enter Windows in 640x mode and bring up Winvideo then anything I play is displayed.
> 
> However if I try and increase my resolution to 800x or 1024x then all I get
> is a pink screen instead of my video input.
> 
> Does anyone know what the problems are?

	There *aren't* any problems.  The VB is working exactly as advertised.
It's stated explicitly in the specs that it takes a VGA feed at 640 x 480.
The board is doing chroma keying, overlaying NTSC video with the VGA.  It is
the NTSC part that constrains the VGA mode.

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From: zimm@condor.navsses.navy.mil
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: CA_Realizer
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:58:40 GMT
Organization: NSWCCD, Naval Ship Systems Eng Sta, Phila PA

>Does ANYONE have any experience with Realizer...?

Yup.



It's not bad.  I got version 1.0 when it was initially released (before
CA bought the guys out) and it's not bad.  A healthy cross between Basic
and C, though the code is written upside-down like Pascal with all the 
subprograms first, then the main loop at the bottom.  They did make one
mistake in interpreting the Windows interface--the version I have will
only open windows within the main program window.  You can't make a window
that can float anywhere on the desktop.  They were talking about fixing 
that when they were bought out.

I've coded a fair bit in it, though I'm looking to move to Fox 2.5 for 
Windows when it's actually available.  The biggest single advantage it
offers is that it includes a good selection of libraries (including 
comms and graphics libraries) and several software tools that VB doesn't
have.  When comparing Realizer with VB, remember that you have to compare
it to VB-Pro to compare functionality with functionality for the price.

My personal opinion?  It's very good.  VB is slicker, and has a neater
builder in addition to being object oriented (sorta).  Realizer has a more
traditional programming environment--including a nice window builder--
and includes all the libraries you're likely to need.  The only fault I
can find with it is the sub-window problem.

   Dave Zimmerman
   (Not affiliated with CA, except for having some of their stuff.)
 
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: scottb@sun1x.actc.res.utc.com (Scottb)
Subject: Re: Windord 2.0 A VIRUS ?
Organization: United Technologies Research Center
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 12:19:21 GMT

And just why does the stuff have to go in the Windows directory.
What if the partition containing windows is low on space (and
there is really nothing that can be removed) and I want it all
on another partition.  If I have another app that is OLE enabled
I will just "tell it" where the OLE applets are and go from there.

If MS feels that half of the stuff must go in the windows dir, 
why not just force us to put it all there? :) <- sarcastic grin.
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: liew@pico.engr.mun.ca (Tattwah Liew)
Subject: Looking for the person who emailed me regarding prob. with Zoom Modem
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 10:44:15 GMT


Recently, I posted an article in this newgroup regarding the prob. with
Zoom modem. I received a reply from a Zoom modem saying that he also faced
the same prob. as I did. If you're the person who wrote me, please write
me ASAP. 


Tattwah
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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: csatordy@rizzo.Princeton.EDU (Peter Csatorday)
Subject: Startup window size for Eq. Editor in W4W
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 15:13:02 GMT

Does anyone know how to get the Equation editor in Word for Windows 2.0 to  
startup in a larger window?
Thanks for any help.


Peter Csatorday
csatordy@phoenix.princeton.edu
From: cdh@eng.cam.ac.uk (Chris Horne)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: Printer driver needed
Date: 16 Dec 92 17:24:12 GMT
Reply-To: cdh@eng.cam.ac.uk
Organization: University of Cambridge


I had a similar problem - Mine's the UK version STAR DP510. I phones Star's support
line and they don't have a driver. In the end I just use the Generic Text Only
driver... Fast, but lousy output.

If you do find a driver please let me know.

Chris.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: bowen@esdeng.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: Videoblaster only works in Low Resoluti
Reply-To: bowen@esdeng.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 08:39:32 GMT


OK a few more details.

I, by selection managed to get the Video Blaster upto 800 and 32K colours.

However the Picture quality was very poor, a lot of snow (blue!).

By changing to a video 7 board I recahed 1024 res, this time I had real problems
with the picture flashing on/off and even more snow.

By downloading from Diamond BBS I tried a 600 by 32K colour driver, this
gave me a near perfect picture.

And by saving the image as 24 bit, I'm able to use the higher res in editing.

All in All although not Ideal, Ihave a working system.

Thanks to all for you ideas, help and general comments.

Kevin
From: ardie@UIUC (R.D. McClary)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
Subject: Re: AmiPro or Word Perfict ??????
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:24:41 GMT
Organization: Department of Plant Pathology

In article <1992Dec12.162357.4541@wkuvx1.bitnet> beelewm@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>From: beelewm@wkuvx1.bitnet
>Subject: AmiPro or Word Perfict ??????
>Date: 12 Dec 92 16:23:56 CST
>I am at a delima, I am in the market for a word processor for windows
>and I am undecided weather to get AmiPro or Word Perfict for windows,
>if any one can tell me which is the best overall, and some drawbacks
>to each, this would be a real help.  also, which would be better,
>Lotus 123 for windows or MS Excell?
>
>Thanks,
>
>Marc -------- Beelewm@wkuvx1.bitnet


     The best program of any kind is the one on whichyou know what the heck 
you're doing!  In our department, there are a couple of copies of WP4W that 
are launghed only for ridicule.  Its only advantage is its similarity to and 
complete compatibility w/ WPDos.  A to the other 2 biggies, it depends on 
how many DTP functions you plan to use.  Although MS & Lotus claim the smae 
abilities, add one picture and MS W4W goes brain-dead.  For using multiple 
page/paragraph formats within a doc and using graphics, nothing beats 
AmiPro.  For straight text-crunching, W4W has the advantage (although it 
doesn't touch WP 5.1-dos!).  I use all 3 for the reasons stated above.
     If you are a 1-2-3 Dos user, you might want to stay with Lotus; 
otherwise, it is no match for Excel.  (I was a dedicated 1-2-3 v 2.01 user 
until a colleague got a copy of Excel 3.  I went out immediately and bought 
a copy and use 1-2-3 only for a custom forms application I wrote and don't 
feel like trying to convert.)  Also, 1-2-3 for Win has the 3-D spreadsheet 
capabilities of 3.1 for Dos.  If you NEED it, fine; otherwise, use Excel.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.apps
From: tsw@teal.csn.org (Tom Wisdom)
Subject: Kermit server under Windows?
Summary: Looking for kermit server to run on MS-Windows 3.1
Keywords: Kermit server
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 06:28:55 GMT

Is there any comm package available that will run as a Kermit server
under Windows?  When I try to run Columbia's MSDOS version of Kermit
in a Dos window it terminates after a few packets.


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