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From: reynhout@cs.uri.edu (Andrew Reynhout)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Throwing Muses _Red_Heaven_ + LtdEd KHersh acoustic
Date: 21 Aug 92 01:08:58 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rhode Island, Computer Science Dept.


   The first 4AD pressing of the new Throwing Muses includes a second 
disc of Kristin Hersh live solo acoustic material.  It's otherwise not
available *anywhere*.

   I ordered a bunch of them, and they came in today.  I will sell them
at cost to the first people who send me money.  They will be slightly over
$30 each, I won't know the exact price until I get my MasterCard state-
ment.  That price includes postal charges, me to you.  If you're local
and can pick them up by hand, the price is just UNDER $30.

   If you're interested in them, send me mail (electronic) at the following
address:  reynhout@cs.uri.edu
   My postal address is 7 Summer Street / Narragansett, RI  02882

   I don't know much about import laws, so if this is illegal, please some
one let me know.  I'm not making a profit.  Does that matter?

   Andrew
-- 
   Andrew <reynhout@cs.uri.edu>    "If you remind me of my dog,
                                    we'll probably get along"  -jane siberry
   meow
From: John_Maxwell@mindlink.bc.ca (John Maxwell)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Major Label Music is EVIL!
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:59:40 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

Cheers to Ben @athena for pointing out that there is something to be said for a
band like Fugazi hanging around to support the indie label.

Instead of making "Alternative" a moral issue, go do Good Works by supporting
your local scene! I bet there's a lot of really cool bands that you all love
that aren't successful enough yet to even consider the question of who they'd
sign with. It's like Heisenberg's Alternative Principle: You can't know whether
a band is cool or not until they make money.
                                                -JMax
From: cc2j@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Corrado  Caudek)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Recommendation Wanted
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:59:55 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia


	I'm familiar with the "traditional" new wave of the 80's, but
don't know much of the new bands appeared these last few years.  The
music that I listen to the most is JD/NewOrder/Electronic, Nick Cave,
Psychedelic Furs...

	Do you have any recommendation for some new stuff that comes
in this flavour?

		-- Rado
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From: gairns@ccrs.emr.ca (Jamie Gairns)
Subject: Re: Pigface
Organization: Canada Centre for Remote Sensing, Ottawa
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:40:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug17.013722.24686@sbcs.sunysb.edu> mepstein@csws15.ic.sunysb.edu (Not On Our Customer File) writes:
>
>
>How many albums do they have and who sings their songs?
>thanks
>mepstein@ic.sunysb.edu


	I don't know how many albums they've done ... 'Gub' is great,
	though.

	Vocals ... En Esch, Ogre, Chris Connelly, Martin Atkins, David Yow

Seamus
   gairns@ccrs.emr.ca
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From: mepstein@csws15.ic.sunysb.edu (Not On Our Customer File)
Subject: Pigface(nin too)
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 19:54:56 GMT



I just got Welcome to Mexico...Asshole
It's pretty cool
I was just wondering if anyone knew the lineup for each song(esp. singer)
Is it an all Live album ?
and what songs are on Gub (i'd like to see a list of song and singers)

I am also looking for any NIN song not from PHM,Sin,HLAH,DII
What is the name of the album that suck was originally on?
Thanks.
mepstein@ic.sunysb.edu
From: gertben@ocf.berkeley.edu (Benjamin Gertner)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Cometbus Backissues/Sonic Youth
Date: 17 Aug 1992 04:57:07 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

 Does anyone know where I can get back issues of cometbus? Also, Sonic youth's
 old apartment is featured in some mainstream magazine. Does anyone know which
 one. Please send e-mail, because I don't have time to sift through all the
 messages. Thanks!

 -Ben
 gertben@ocf.berkeley.edu

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From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Re: mail order addresses for Fugazi and Sugar albums 
Organization: Tellabs, Inc., Lisle, IL
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 22:03:04 GMT

In article <713836157snx@nexnix.demon.co.uk> gary@nexnix.demon.co.uk (Gary Howland) writes:
>What are the Husker Du albums that I should be buying?
>(Bearing in mind that I've got Zen Arcade, and reckon the best track on
>there is 'Something I learned today').

*-------------*

My suggestion would be to pick up Metal Circus and New Day Rising.
If you can find a copy of Everything Falls Apart, get that, but it's
quite hard to find, being out of print for several years.

-- 
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From: mascdb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (C D Burdorf)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: INDIE NET - Debate
Keywords: indie net
Date: 23 Aug 92 14:14:00 GMT
Organization: University of Bath, England

In article <=x+nc7c@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:

>Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick) writes:
>
>> "indie" should be defined as "independent of the Big Six (Sony, Warners,
>> MCA, BMG, Capitol-EMI, Polygram) in the country of original issue." 
>> (But hmm, Depeche Mode are on an indie label in the U.K., and we all
>> know the real reason for starting this group is to not have to read DM/
>> Cure/Smiths posts. We may have to think this out.) 
>
>If you want to create someplace where people don't talk about bands you
>don't want to talk about, you should probably make it a mailing list.
>No matter how convoluted a set of rules you put in a newsgroup's charter,
>people are going to post there based on what it's called in the name, and
>any variation on the word "independent" in the name is going to leave it
>wide open for discussion of all those (ewg!) pop bands you hate.  Hell,
>PWL -- Kylie Minogue and Jason Donovan's label, for Christ's sake -- is
>an indie.  Billy Ocean's on Jive, S'Express and Bomb The Bass on Rhythm
>King . . .
>


Good point!  Indie as a category is too nebulous.  I think the
more appropriate term is underground.  It implies that the music
is somewhat radical, noncomercial, and has limited social 
respectability (at least to the mainstream audience).  Kylie and
Jason are the epitamy of prefabricated pop which seems to be
counter to this proposed newgroup's aims.  Clearly, someone can
just as easily churn out commercial music from an independent
label as from a major.  There's nothing keeping an independent label
from having the same aims as a major.  I think underground is a
better term also, because it allows for the occasional exception to
the rule when the majors sign an underground band and they stay
underground (even though they will probably get dumped by the
majors eventually). 

Don't forget that the RAMONES which were
the first true punk band were signed to Sire (which I believe
is linked to a major).  They never entered the mainstream.  They
continued to play thrash and their lyrics were continually
political and anti-establishment.  They were eventually dumped
by Sire, but nonetheless they were an execption to the rule.
From: festeve@sdrc.COM (Steve Saunders)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Sebadoh info wanted
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:41:11 GMT
Organization: SDRC, Cincinnati
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

One of my favorite CD's is Sebadoh III.  I assume by the title that there is
a I and II.  If anybody outhere knows about these please let me know.

Thanks
Steve

~
~   "Needlesly you fucked with me,
~    and now your gonna die" - Sebadoh
~
From: rob@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Rob Vaughn,302 Thurston Hall,50637,27rob@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Rob Vaughn,302 Thurston Hall,50637,27rob@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Rob Vaughn,302 Thurston Hall,50637,27rob@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Rob Vaughn,302 Thurs)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Sonic Youth does the Fall
Date: 11 Aug 92 14:09:56 GMT
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Old-Message-ID: <1992Aug11.140956.11408@msc.cornell.edu>
Originator: rob@snoopy.msc.cornell.edu

From gal2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Jacob Galley):

>I'm curious about
>a certain record by Sonic Youth called _4 Tunna Brix_ released by Goo
>Records (I think, the catalog number is definitely "goo one") in 1989.

This release came in two formats, one a bootleg and the other you have:

"All Fall Down"
1991 - 7" single bootleg

Songs:  Psycho Mafia, Rowche Rumble, My New House

"Four Tunna Brix"
1991 - 12" EP bootleg on Goofin' Records

Songs:  Rowche Rumble, Psycho Mafia, My New House, Victoria

> So I've been wondering, is this record worth some money? Who the hell
> is/was Goo Records??

Both were taken from the Peel Sessions on 10/19/88.  The record you have isn't
worth more than the $7 or so that Forced Exposure wants for it (they still
stock it) but the 7" bootleg is very hard to find.  Goofin' Records is Sonic
Youth themselves, doing the bootleg thing.  They were also behind the
Albini-recorded _Hold That Tiger_ live "bootleg" (can something be a bootleg
if the band released it?) that you can get through Forced Exposure for $10.

Rob

-- 

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Mat. Sci. Center Computing, Cornell University
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From: kak1@cray.com (Kevin Kramer)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: NEW THREAD: Favourite Cure Song
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:46:49 GMT
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

My fav has to be "The Kiss" on Kiss Me Kiss Me Kiss Me.  Love that guitar.
Boys Don't Cry and Just Like Heaven are very very close seconds.

Have only heard the two "popular" songs off of Wish and I must say I was
very dissapointed.  The B52s new stuff is not good stuff either!  What is
happening to these bands!

Kevin
From: graziano@rocko.enet.dec.com (Rocko Graziano)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Major Label Music is EVIL!
Date: 14 Aug 92 12:06:02 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


The only people I've known who dismissed bands when they 'sold out' were the
people more interested in the act of being alternative than in the pursuit of
finding and enjoying great music.

The college radio scene has certainly birthed some major successes - U2, REM,
the RedHCPeppers, to name but a few - but it's also allowed what would have
been local, relatively unknown music to reach a larger audience. Concrete
Blonde, the Pixies, Poi Dog Pondering, the Throwing Muses, much of today's
popular Rap, and a host of other bands has walked through the doors that U2,
Talking Heads, The Cure, and other 'sold out' bands opened.

You can hold to your belief that it can't be alternative if it's not on a major
label.  That's your choice.  But that choice limits the music you'll have 
access to.  Without the major labels, and their distribution networks, you
wouldn't have a chance to by Tribe's albumn in Louisville, KY, and I wouldn't
be able to buy Billy Bragg's latest here in Maine.

Cheers,
Rocko Graziano

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From: hamrick@milton.u.washington.edu (Mike Hamrick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Breeders - on letterman tonight!!!!
Date: 14 Aug 92 09:29:38 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Michael Graham writes:

>hopefully this post will reach some people in time - or maybe everybody
>knows this, but the Breeders are going to be on Letterman tonight (Thurs.)

It was worth putting up with Dave Letterman just to see the Breeders perform
one song, even if it their worst song.  I really don't think "Sad About Us"
is what the Breeders are all about, but whatever.  I think it was just Kim
and Kelly on Letterman, they had some guy playing the timpani, who could
have been the mysterious Mike Hunt, or perhaps his evil cousin Mike Hock.

I guess I didn't quite remember how bad TV sucked, the Breeders only got
to play one song.

mikeh
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: IZZYKL6@MVS.OAC.UCLA.EDU (Hagop Janoyan)
Subject: Re: Morrissey vs. Smiths
Date: 22 Aug 92 18:00:54 PDT

In article <2A954CAC.23949@ics.uci.edu>, on 21 Aug 92 20:06:04 GMT,
kkawado@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Kevin Y. Kawado) writes:

>Well, they did have a contract with EMI (or some other large label) but
>due to difficulties getting out of their contracts with Rough Trade, they
>couldn't change.  I think this came around 1986 or so.  However, by
>this time, the Smiths were already in turmoil so nothing ever became of
>it.  Morrissey's solo work immediately came out on a major label, so
>obviously, he had a lot more publicity and financial backing.  I think
>you're correct to assume that a major label would have generated much
>more popularity for the group, but even if it did happen, it probably
>wouldn't have stopped the break-up.

Supposedly, they owed Rough Trade a certain number of albums, and they
had to fulfill their obligation before they could move on.  Actually,
I bet the Smiths would have broken up much earlier had they signed
onto EMI much earlier.

The interesting thing is how Rough Trade went belly-up a couple years
after they lost the Smiths.  Could the Smiths really have provided them
their lifeline, as Morrissey claimed?

-Hagop Janoyan
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From: Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Unrest "Teenage Suicide" on CD?
Date: 16 Aug 92 18:45:24 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1992Aug15.140712.17069@Princeton.EDU> skmurphy@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Sean K. Murphy) writes:
>Well, I don't think either of the Caroline LPs from Unrest are in print
>any more.  Caroline has discontinued all its vinyl, and I don't think
>that either Malcolm X or KKB were on CD.  But, if Gerard Cosloy ever
>gets off his butt, there will be a re-release of the first Unrest LP
>along with 2 old 7"s and some other unreleased oddities on Matador
>called "Fuck Pussy Galore (and all her friends)" - this cd was listed in
>the TeenBeat catalog to appear in January of 1991 originally...but it'll
>be worth the wait.  So if that ever gets done, maybe a re-release of the
>others will follow.  Or, Caroline will re-press the old stuff since
>Unrest is getting lots of good press from Imperial f.f.r.r. if we're
>lucky.  Anyone heard the new "Isabel Bishop" 7" yet?  I keep meaning to
>order it, but haven't had a chance yet...

In the last Teenbeat catalogue--not the current one, though--_Malcolm X Park_
and _Kustom Karnal Blaxploitation_ CDs were listed as "coming soon." I'm
not sure about the status of this project, but I guess you could call the
ActionLine (tm) at (703) 358-9382 and leave a message (Mark & Andrew are
off to England for a few weeks.) I ordered an "Isabel" 7" but haven't
gotten it yet. But I think someone posted a review of it here about a week
ago... look through the back articles for something called "Teenbeat
REviews" i think.

Gerard, get off his butt? That'll be the day. The fucker still owes me
$20.

mark cornick                 stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu
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From: saxe_dh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dean H Saxe)
Subject: Re: New NIN album "Broken"
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 14:25:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug12.043602.19156@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> davids@coos.dartmouth.edu (David S. Cohen) writes:
>saxe_dh@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Dean H Saxe) writes:
>
>>Ok here's what we have all been waiting for.  The New album by Trent Reznors
>>Nine Inch Nails is due in stores September 23rd.  It will be a 6 song EP
>>titled "Broken."  As most NIN fans know much of the album has been done
>>since spring / summer of 91, but not released because Trent & TVT cannot
>>stand each other.  Well maybe they finally came to terms, I hope so at
>>least b/c my copy of "Pretty Hate Machine" is getting worn out from all the
>>times I have played it.  Tour information anyone?  Saw them last summer at
>>The Vatican in Houston, excellent show.  Hoping to see Trent again *real*
>>soon.
>
>only an ep?  it's been three years plus . . .  will there be an accompanying
>album?
>
>--
>peace
>-dsc
From the information I heard no, but I haven't been able to reach the radio
station yet.  We'll see.
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From: kbennett@milton.u.washington.edu (K. Lena Bennett; Slacker Goddess)
Subject: Re: INDIE NET - Debate
Keywords: indie net 
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 23:03:22 GMT

wilbanks@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Dylan Wilbanks) writes:

>OK, This post is to generate debate over a spin-off group from a.m.a 
>(alt.music.alternative, not the American Medical Association). The 
>hope is that we can get this issue settled, once and for all, whether
>it ends with a new group or not.

The beauty of the "indie" question is that it can *never* be clearly
defined once and for all.  If it were, music would be dead.
Woe to those who define, define, define the good things in life until all
the juice is completely taken out of them.  Are you sure you're not 
a philosophy major?  

>1. How should "indie" be defined? The independant labels of the US, 
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^       
>4. Finally, What name should it be given? alt.music.alternative.indie, 
>alt.music.indie, rec.music.independant, etc.?
                            ^^^^^^^^^^^

if you're going to start this stupid thread again, at least try to spell
"independent" correctly.

Lena
who only flames people once in a blue moon so don't get on my case. 


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From: ieya@byron.u.washington.edu (Morpheus Laughing)
Subject: som/ goth zine
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: alt.music.alternative
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 06:02:43 GMT

posted this earlier, but seems to have died on the way....


ego project number two issue 1 was mailed out on tht 7th. if you signed up
and did not receive it, that either means i couldn't mail to your address as 
given for some reason or i deleted your mail before i added you to the list.
therefore if you would still like to receive it you should mail me again.:-)
we apologize for the for the fault in the subtitles, those responsible have 
been sacked...


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From: gunter@tartarus.uwa.edu.au (Gunter Ahrendt)
Subject: Siouxsie & the Banshee's?
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 06:53:33 GMT

Could someone please email me the date that they split?
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: insomnia@carson.u.washington.edu (Ryan Klemmer)
Subject: Re: cure thread
Organization: University of Washington
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 07:14:36 GMT

I'll agree with the person who said "all of disintegration", especially
Fascination Street.  And after seeing them live in concert, my second
favorite behind Fascination Street would be A Forest (live).

Insomnia

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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: Re: Ravers don't want techno newsgroup
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 21:52:12 GMT


Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Gee, I wonder who attempted to anonymously post this message?

techno@music.not.rave.please (EIVERSON) writes:

>OK maybe that's too much of a blanket statement, but the main
>opposition for an alt.music.techno group seems to be coming from susbscribers
>of alt.rave.

And subscribers of rec.music.industrial, subscribers of rec.music.misc, and
subscribers of various mailing lists.

>A.m.techno would cater to lovers of all things techno - primarily
>the music which has been produced for roughly 17 years now.

The same music that falls under the rec.music.industrial charter.

>The projected audience would be anyone who likes to listen to, make, buy,
>play, or even dance and party to techno music.

Listen to's, buy's, and play's: alt.rave, rec.music.industrial
Dance and party to's: alt.rave
Makes: rec.music.synth

>If you favor the creation of such a group, make your voice heard
>in alt.config!

If you don't favor such a group, make your voice heard in alt.config as well.
-- 
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From: arsenic@cs.montana.edu (Michael Hurd)
Subject: Re: Bad Religion 
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Sat, 15 Aug 1992 18:24:21 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.163227.21411@samba.oit.unc.edu> Mark.Cornick@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Mark Cornick) writes:
>gary@nexnix.demon.co.uk (Gary Howland) writes:
>
>>Can anyone tell me if there any other Bad Religion albums apart from
>>the following:
>> 
>>        Suffer
>>        No Control
>>        Against the Grain
>>        Generator
>>        80-85
>
>Well, there's _How Could Hell Be Any Worse?_ and _Into The Unknown_, and
>the "Back To The Known" EP, but _80-85_ makes them redundant. (I'm not
>sure if they're available in Britain, anyway...)
>
>mark cornick                 stu_m1cornic@vax1.acs.jmu.edu

Pretty much true about _How_Could... and _Back_... but nothing on
_Into the Unknown_ appears on _80-85_.  

By the by, has anyone seen _Into the Unknown_ on CD?

-- 
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