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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #182
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:07:14 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Wed, 29 Jul 92       Volume 10 : Issue 182

Today's Topics:

      [*] AliasZoo 1.4.1 correction
      [*] astronaut-jpeg.hqx
      [*] Lunar Lander in Shuttle.jpeg
      [*] spacecraft-jpeg.hqx
      [*] TidBITS#135/27-Jul-92
      [*] uploading suntar 1.3.1 (repost)
      "NetNews Servers"
      Apple II -> Mac
      Big Blue Tape Drive
      bizarre font problem (Q)
      Coprocessor for LC's (Q)
      Disktop Updater. (Q)
      E-mail etiquette: don't make my mistake!!!
      Engraving Devices
      Enjoying 2 + systems on one CPU (A)
      Eudora (Q) (2 msgs)
      Greek Fonts...... (A)
      HD Case and Power Supply
      HyperAnimator
      LC enhancements?
      Letter to ASD Software (Re: FileGuard Troubles)
      Liken
      LS fortran warnings
      Mac+ Accelerators (A)
      Macbugs INIT
      MacDraw Pro letter spacing
      MAC IIci/Quadra networking questions
      Mac PC Exchange form Apple ? (Q)
      MCI Access
      Mirror (was Misleading Mac Adverts) (C)
      Mirror drives
      mixed script systems
      monaco font problem [Q]
      Norton FileSaver/Quicken?
      OzTeX and Fig
      Pirates (C)
      Portable Backup System [A]
      Posting for infomac digest
      PrintMonitor
      Quicktime and Quayle and Qudos (Kudos) to Infomac
      RE- ARA Script Editing
      Re-mapping Mac keyboard
      RE- ResEdit Hack
      ResEdit batch processing (A)
      ResEdit Hacking finder sizes [Was: Re: ResEdit Hack]
      Sounds on the IIsi stop working
      StartupScreen
      Sys7 boot disk without Finder?
      Sys 7 Startup disk fiasco!
      Word 5 willy-nilly Glossary saves
      Word and TT

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 08:27:39 PDT
From: cmccollu@ra.UVic.CA (Cliff Mccollum)
Subject: [*] AliasZoo 1.4.1 correction

Here is a new (hopefully correct) archive of AliasZoo 1.4.1.
Please let me know if this one works.

Thanks.
Cliff McCollum

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[Archived as /info-mac/util/alias-zoo-141.hqx; 85K]

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Date: 28 Jul 92 13:31:00 EST
From: "IMVS6::BTROEN" <BTROEN%IMVS6.decnet@intmed.stanford.edu>
Subject: [*] astronaut-jpeg.hqx

I downloaded this outstanding image from AOL.  The author's note follows:
____________________________________________________________________________
Subj:  Wrinkly Space Suit JPEG               July 22, 1992

File:  Check'n in. (48065 bytes)
DL time (2400 baud): < 5 minutes

AUTHOR:    Lloyd Walker
NEEDS:     color pict viewer, QT init

Photoreal image of Astronaut suited up and returning from Lunar EVA.
Built in VIDI Modeler and ray traced in VIDIxpress.
This is an "outake" from a new project I am currently working on - a Lunar
habitat interior. I set this view up primarily to test a wrinkle bump map on
the astronaut's space suit and got lucky with the final image. Beyond the
astronaut is a science and communications workstation featuring a large flat
screen monitor.

640 x 480 x 24 bit

[Archived as /info-mac/art/astronaut-jpeg.hqx; 66k]

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Date: 28 Jul 92 13:37:00 EST
From: "IMVS6::BTROEN" <BTROEN%IMVS6.decnet@intmed.stanford.edu>
Subject: [*] Lunar Lander in Shuttle.jpeg

I downloaded this outstanding image from AOL.  The author's note follows:
______________________________________________________________________________
Subj:  Lunar Lander in Shuttle bay JPEG      July 22, 1992

File:  Lunar Lander in Shuttle.jpeg (55807 bytes)

AUTHOR:    Lloyd Walker
NEEDS:     color pict viewer, QT init

Photoreal image of Lunar Lander core in the payload bay of Space Shuttle
Columbia.
Built in VIDI Modeler and ray traced in VIDIxpress.
This image is one of 15 in the series done for NASA/Johnson Space Center to
describe a Shuttle based lunar mission. I previously uploaded a related frame
>From the series showing the lander being assembled. The lighting on this
particular image is my favorite from the series.

640 x 480 x 24 bit

[Archived as /info-mac/art/lander-jpeg.hqx; 76k]

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Date: 28 Jul 92 13:34:00 EST
From: "IMVS6::BTROEN" <BTROEN%IMVS6.decnet@intmed.stanford.edu>
Subject: [*] spacecraft-jpeg.hqx

I downloaded this outstanding image from AOL.  The author's note follows:
______________________________________________________________________________
Subj:  Photoreal NASA SpaceCraft JPEG        July 3, 1992

File:  On orbit assembly (56571 bytes)

AUTHOR:    Lloyd Walker
NEEDS:     Quick time extension, pict viewer

Photoreal image of a Lunar Lander being assembled in low earth orbit by the
Space Shuttle Columbia.
3D model Built in VIDI Modeler and ray traced in VIDIxpress (original image at
2000x1600 pixels).

This image is one of 15 in the series done for NASA/Johnson Space Center to
describe a Shuttle based lunar mission. As a contractor immersed in a
technical/engineering environment loaded with Intergraph and Silicon Graphics
machines, I'm pleased to announce you CAN compete in the professional 3D world
with a Mac and Presenter Professional.

Look close and you can see faces in the front window of the shuttle.

[Archived as /info-mac/art/spacecraft-jpeg.hqx; 77k]

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Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 22:21:00 PDT
From: ace@tidbits.com (Adam C. Engst)
Subject: [*] TidBITS#135/27-Jul-92

TidBITS#135/27-Jul-92

 Psst! Wanna buy a PowerBook 100 cheap? Read on. We also have a
   report on the 1992 MacHack Conference - including notes on the
   winning hacks, two articles describing how Apple is racing to
   save the environment and only occasionally tripping over its
   shoelaces, and finally, the promised review of two excellent
   trackballs, the CoStar Stingray and Curtis MVP Mouse with Foot
   Switch.

Topics:
    MailBITS/27-Jul-92
    PowerBook 100... Cheap
    MacHack News
    Apple Toner Recycling, Uh Huh!
    The Apple Environment
    Goldilocks and the Three Trackballs
    Reviews/27-Jul-92

[Archived as /info-mac/digest/tb/tidbits-135.etx; 29K]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 14:53:40 MET DST
From: speranza@uqbar.cirfid.unibo.it (Sauro Speranza)
Subject: [*] uploading suntar 1.3.1 (repost)

Since we've found a bug in suntar 1.3, we are posting the
fix (including the updater for the source code).


[Archived as /info-mac/util/suntar-131.hqx; 137k]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:04:16 -0400 (EDT)
From: POTENZIANI@MONMOUTH-ETDL173.ARMY.MIL (Ernie Potenziani, EDR Div VAX
11/750 Manager)
Subject: "NetNews Servers"

To all:

This may be a FAQ, but what are some NetNews sites (that we can use Nuntius
with) in the U.S.  Any help is appreciated.

Ernie Potenziani
potenziani@monmouth-etdl1.army.mil

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 12:29 IST
From: Mike Green <SOUGD%HUJIVM1.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Apple II -> Mac

Anyone with experience sending files from an Apple IIe (or IIc) to a Mac -
could they send me the best approach.  Is a null modem cable the way to go?
Is there a File Exchange translator at Apple.com?  (I do not have a 5 1/4
drive
for the Mac, needless to say!)  Any info appreciated.

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 23:55:17 -0400
From: bww@po.CWRU.Edu (Brian W. Wolf)
Subject: Big Blue Tape Drive

 I have a tape drive for a PeeCee, and I want to know if there's anyway
that I can hook it up to my Mac and possibly use it for b/u's?
  Is there a generic tape driver out there in PD land? I have no idea
what the pin connections are or anything, I just saved this tape drive
>From seeing the inside of a garbage truck.

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 11:44:43 EST
From: Dr. G. Paul Savage <paul.savage@carbon.chem.csiro.au>
Subject: bizarre font problem (Q)

I know there are some font gurus out there so I hope one of you can solve my
problem. If I create a Word document (Word 4.00d, sys 7.01, tuneup 1.1.1) in
palatino (truetype) it prints as nornal. However, if I give the title of the
page (ie. the first line) any attributes such as bold or italic or both the
WHOLE DOCUMENT comes out as bold or italic or both. The document looks fine on
screen but prints with this strange behavior. Has anyone seen this before and
how did you fix it?

I tried taking out the TT palitino and just used the bitmapped fonts but the
printout looked jagged. This is also confusing as I thought the palatino
printer font was installed in every printer. The NTx we have says it has 35
fonts installed in ROM so how come I'm getting bitmapped palatino? I'm really
in the dark on this one folks. Any help appreciated.

Paul                                               //// scientia est potentia
Dr G P Savage  ***  Melbourne  ***  Australia  ***  paul@carbon.chem.csiro.au

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 09:44 EST
From: "Mark Nutter, Apple Support" <MANUTTER@grove.iup.edu>
Subject: Coprocessor for LC's (Q)

I recently was asked:

>Can a Mac LC have both a IIe card and a coprocessor?  What about an internal
>Ethernet card and a coprocessor?

I told him I thought the answer to both questions was "yes," but I don't have
an LC, so I'm not absolutely sure.  Anybody care to supply more details?

Please reply directly to me and I will summarize the results as appropriate.

Mark Nutter
manutter@grove.iup.edu

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 15:43:05 BST
From: K.C.Quick@open.ac.uk
Subject: Disktop Updater. (Q)

I downloaded the Disktop updater for version 4.0.1 > 4.0.2 but this failed
to update my copy properly. The earlier submission of 4.0 > 4.0.1 did not
seem to work right either.

In the documentation that was with 4.0.1 > 4.0.2 it referred to a version
that would do 4.0 > 4.0.2. Does anyone have this version of the updater and
if so could they please mail it to me direct or submit to the archives at
sumex.

Kevin Quick
Computer Support Engineer
The Open University

Mail by Eudora 1.3b34

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 00:29:03 EDT
From: Pete Tamas <GNOME%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: E-mail etiquette: don't make my mistake!!!

I recently offended and potentially caused someone unneeded problems
by quoting him without his permission. I quoted a reply made to me
privately.

I am now more aware of the discomfort that can accidently be caused
and I suggest the following course of action: If the e-mail was
sent to you privately, do not quote without permission. I wish I had
thought to do that.-Pete
Pete Tamas, Gnome@TempleVM.bitnet, Temple Univ., Philadelphia, eastern USA

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:54 CST
From: <SWAECHTER%UTMEM2.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Engraving Devices

I have been informed by one of our office staff that campus security is going
to engrave University property, including computer equipment, with one of
those
vibrating gadgets that etches some number into the equipment.  I need some
advice--is this a good idea, to put the engraver on computer equipment?  Could
it damage the hard drive or anything else?  What do you think--would you do
it?

Thanks for the help!

Steve Waechter
swaechter@utmem2 (bitnet)
swaechter@utmem2.utmem.edu (internet)

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Date: 29 Jul 92 06:26:59 GMT
From: attjp4!lss@attjpn.attmail.com
Subject: Enjoying 2 + systems on one CPU (A)

Dear Wade-san:

Our dealer in Tokyo has told us that we are not to have KanjiTalk and English
System 7 on the same hard disk partition.  We haven't really investigated why
though.  At work we just run everything, including English applications, under
the KanjiTalk OS.  At home I want to use System 7 on my PowerBook so I use
SweetJAM (as I described last week, this is basically a system extention that
gives English System 6 or 7 Macs the ability to display and input Japanese).

Without knowing the details of the problem, I vote for running the two systems
on different partiions.  I tend to go for the method that will keep crashes
away.

Best Regards,

Larry Staples <lss@attjpn.attmail.com>

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 11:09:26 BST
From: K.C.Quick@open.ac.uk
Subject: Eudora (Q)

I'm trying to install Eudora 1.3b34 with MacTCP 1.1 on a Mac Plus running
System 6.0.5. Whenever the application tries to talk to the pop server or
tries to send mail it either times out trying to make a connection or
complains that TCP is playing up.

If anybody has had success with this combination could they please mail me
direct.


Kevin Quick
Computer Support Engineer
The Open University

Mail by Eudora 1.3b34

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 17:08:31 BST
From: K.C.Quick@open.ac.uk
Subject: Eudora (Q)

Following my earlier submission about Eudora I'm pleased to say that I have
now cured the problem.

Using MacTCP+ tools fixed it.


Kevin Quick
Computer Support Engineer
The Open University

Mail by Eudora 1.3b34

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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 92 19:19:44 EST
From: thomas@camino.mic.cl
Subject: Greek Fonts...... (A)

In Info-Mac 10-180 Jon Christiansen asked about the availability of fancy
Greek fonts. You might want to contact Linguist's Software. They sell a
large number of bitmapped and Postscript fonts for all kinds of alfabets,
including Greek.

  Linguists Software, Inc.
  PO Box 580
  Edmonds, WA 98020-0580

  Phone: (206) 775-1130
  Fax:   (206) 771-5911

I hope the address is still current...

-- Thomas Fruin                                 thomas@camino.mic.cl

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 10:42:22 EDT
From: loppen@kodaki.Kodak.COM (Larry Oppenheimer)
Subject: HD Case and Power Supply

Where can I buy the case and power supply I need to convert a spare
internal hard drive into an external HD? The source mentioned in
I-M Digest V. 10 Issue 148 (Western Systems) does not have power
supplies at this time.

Please reply to Loppen@kodak.com
Thanks for your help....LARRY

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:36:57 EST
From: ROLF@AAHL.DAH.CSIRO.AU (Rolf Kocherhans)
Subject: HyperAnimator

I did not get any response to my question about HyperAnimator,
is there anybody which has got a copy of a DEMO or can give me a
adress where I can get more information about it.

Rolf
rolf@aahl.dah.csiro.au

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92  12:29 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: LC enhancements?

Two questions regarding upgrading my LC.
(1) Memory: these days you can get 8 and 16 Mb SIMMS, but according to the
Mac Memory Guide which Connectix produced a while back, the LC's motherboard
is "hardwired to accept a maximum of 10 Mb" (ie you use two 4 meg SIMMS). Is
this true (and how's it done if it is?)
(2) On this side of the Atlantic it's becoming possible to find Equaliser
board, which I believe are made by Daystar Digital and basically feature an
030 processor with optional maths coprocessor.  The idea is that the 030
gives you a chance to use virtual memory.  Has anyone had any experience of
these boards - do they just give you virtual memory, or does the presence of
the 030 chip speed the LC up to something approaching an LCII as well?
Again, how does it work?
Thanks

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Date: 29 Jul 92 16:59:36 GMT
From: gerlach@greyrock.mso.colostate.edu (Scott Gerlach)
Subject: Letter to ASD Software (Re: FileGuard Troubles)

Following is a copy of a letter we have written to ASD Software
concerning problems our lab has encountered with their FileGuard
package.  We are posting a copy to help make potential users aware of
any possible problems before they make a large purchase.

 --------------------------------------------------------------------

July 28, 1992



ASD Software, Inc.
4650 Arrow Hwy., E-6
Montclair, CA  91763
Fax: 714 626 9574


Dear President, Programmers, and Technical Support People:

We have some new serious problems with your product.  This is the
second fax I am sending and the start of a series of faxes to various
insiders, BBS services, and computer gossips.

We are upset, to say the least!  We are tired of spending untold hours
correcting problems brought on by release 2.7.3.  It has essentially
ruined the hard drives of all our lab computers.  Even when we have
downgraded to version 2.7.1 we still have problems.  They are:

1)      Volume protection turns itself on and off unexpectedly and
	randomly.

2)      This usually indicates that more serious problems are
	impending.  Such as:
		o       access privileges changing unexpectedly.
		o       access privileges changing dynamically right
			before our eyes.
		o       the Desktop becoming write-protected, even to
			the Administrator, though it was not before.

3)      The "spinning clock routine" (spinning clock routine defined:
Mac boots; desktop is drawn; menu bar is drawn; mouse pointer turns
into a watch; menu bar disappears; drives do not mount; repeat ad
infinitum.  The only way out is boot from a floppy.)  seems to recur
on drives formatted by the Apple HDSC formatter, i.e., original
equipment.  Hard drives with non-Apple drivers seem somewhat immune to
this problem.  Why?  And what is the problem?  Our ONLY cure for this
is to reformat the drive with another formatter and restore data.  A
terrible time waster.

4)      Apparently machines that had been upgraded to 2.7.3 are
damaged in some way which prevents us from downgrading to 2.7.1 in ANY
way that provides us with a reliable, working computer.  Our only
solution for reliability after a machine is corrupted by 2.7.3 is a
complete reformat of the hard drive.

5)      The discovery that even version 2.7.1 is not really compatible
with AppleShare 2.01.  We can't protect folders from the System 7
Sharing menu on a client's local drive if the server is active (the
server volume doesn't even have to be mounted).  A definite
inconvenience.  The folder icons don't correctly reflect privileges
when attached to an active server.  Folders retain incorrect ownership
tabs.  Finally, we loose the belted folder icon on folders so
protected on the local drive.

What do we do?  Or better yet, what will you do?  We need solutions
and we need them fast.  We have over 100 licenses of FileGuard.  We
bought it in good faith as a product that would provide solutions to
our security needs.  Now that cure is worse than the disease.  We need
to get back to an acceptable, reliable working environment.


Sincerely yours,

Phil Friedman, Manager
CNS Mac Lab
Colorado State University


cc:     file
	Copy via U.S. Mail
	MacWorld
	MacUser
	MacWeek
	comp.sys.mac.apps

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:22:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: Frank William Ciarallo <fc05+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Liken

AdamEngst Writes:

>In Regards to your letter <199207022349.AA01567@nwnexus.wa.com>:
>> Does anyone have any experience with this product? There is a full page ad
>> for it in the June 92 issue of SunExpert.
>
>A friend of mine is testing it for a review in TidBITS. The basic
>upshot so far is that it's a tad clumsy if you're a Mac person, but
>not too bad if you're a Unix person. It seems to work pretty well
>and at a decent, if not impressive speed (on a SparcStation I).
>
>cheers ... Adam C. Engst, TidBITS Editor

I am currently using Liken on my Sparc 2.  It's advertised to work at
about the speed of a Mac Classic and that's pretty accurate.  It has
some compatibility problems with Mathematica, so that Mathematica will
not run if Liken is currently running (in the windowing environment).
All major applications seem to run under it.  A list of compatible (and
incompatible) applications comes with the package.

For someone like me who uses a Mac at home but a Sun in the office, it's
a great package.  I saved having to buy a second Mac for the office.  Or
having to settle for a Powerbook that I could carry back and forth from
home to office.

Frank

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Date: 29 Jul 92 15:25:25 U
From: "Ron Beloin" <ron_beloin@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu>
Subject: LS fortran warnings

		       Subject:                               Time:03:22 PM
  OFFICE MEMO          LS fortran warnings                    Date:7/29/92
Norbert Mueller <K360171%EDVZ.UNI-Linz.AC.AT@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU> writes:
Fortran is the language of choice for numerical problems.
[various reasons, including]
4 - array handling
  FORTRAN is the only language that without the use of
  any extensions or libraries can handle multi-dimensional
  variable size arrays
 ------
Well, you did say without libraries. But one reason we are moving our
ecosystem modeling development over from Fortran to C++ is the ability
to design data structures. In our case, a 4 dimensional array that looks
like an infinite array to the clients. The functions that use the array
know nothing of its implementation, only that they can read and write
and get info on the data. I prefer to design the data abstractions to
our needs than just use what the language offers.

The trouble we found with fortran is that the compiler just
doesn't help much in debugging, and you have to be much more meticulous
in the writing of code. If you design good data structures (easier said
than done!), then by the time you get the C++ code to compile and link,
it's pretty close to what you want.

But enough opinion, here are a couple of gotchas in LS Fortran v. 3.0:
On a quadra, overflow and range checking do not work. Oh, you can
turn them on, but nothing will happen. (the trap used doesn't exist on
the 040)
And this bit us:
 call anysub(a,b,c)
 .....
 subroutine anysub (a b,c) ! note missing comma. treats it as a new var 'ab'
 implicit none             ! doesn't help! doesn't look at argument list
 .....
 return
 The above will compile and link and fail miserably. But the failure
 could be anything because of the imbalanced stack.

BTW, LS has been notified of these.

 Ron Beloin
 Boyce Thompson Institute
 Ron_Beloin@qmrelay.mail.cornell.edu

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 08:46:43 EDT
From: Dave Cohn [703] 818-4516 <cohn@europa.asd.contel.com>
Subject: Mac+ Accelerators (A)

Pat,

You just asked about Mac+ accelerators.  I got a Brainstorm a couple of
months ago, and have been very pleased with it.  Since my wife works at a
school, I got it for $150 with the educational discount and had to install it
myself.  (They also offer an educational price of $200, with installation
included, which I didn't find out until afterwards.  List is $250.)  Using
MacSpeedometer, I found that it increased the CPU intensive and screen redraw
speeds between 2 and 2.5 times.  Unfortunately, it did virtually nothing for
my SCSI speed, but I suspect that this is because my hard disk (a Jasmine
DD100) is so old that it can not do the caching necessary to take advantage
of the accelerator.  (Yes, I did try reformatting with various interleaves,
and 2:1 was still the best ratio.)

Other than a couple of games which are just too fast to be playable now (at
least by me), I have found only one real incompatibility problem:  the MICN
1.3 INIT, which replaces menu names with little icons, and which I was VERY
happy with, causes the Mac to hang during the boot, exhibiting what look like
hardware failure symptoms.  I haven't had the time yet to get in touch with
the author of MICN or with Brainstorm, so I don't know if there is a
workaround.

There also is (or at least was) a report in the sumex archives called mac-
plus-accelerators, or something similar.

Good luck,

Dave Cohn

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Date: 29 Jul 92 17:54:31 U
From: Evans-IM-IS <evans-im-is%micmac@redstone-emh2.army.mil>
Subject: Macbugs INIT

The INIT "Macsbug";  How can it help me, and how would I use it?  I thought I
would ask before I just threw it into the exetnsion folder and rebooted to see
what happens.  I have a copy of the INIT and have no documentation to go with
it.  I know its not a bought product (ie: pirated software) since a folder
sits
on apple.com ( I have not had the time to download it to see if there is
documentation).  I spent the time to download bugsreporter and after reading
the docs found out I just wasted my time.

Thanx
Troy

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:34:10 EDT
From: abboud@cedrus.cedrus.com (Hisham A. Abboud)
Subject: MacDraw Pro letter spacing

Greetings,

I had a small drawing containing text in various sizes from 5 to 24 points.
The original MacDraw II printed flawlessly.  When I convert the drawing to
MacDraw Pro and printed, the spacing between the letters became all screwed
up big times, especially the smaller sized ones.

Did other people run into this problem?  It's very frustrating.  I'd go
back to MacDraw II, except that it crashes too often with the Mr. Bus
Error extension installed, and it does not do gradients.

I'm really disappointed at MacDraw Pro.  It wouldn't even convert
the MacDraw II document.  The system would freeze and I'd have to reboot.
I had to save the document as PICT before reading it back in MD Pro.

Any comments, experiences, are all welcome.  Thanks,

						-- Hisham.


Hisham A. Abboud, Cedrus Corp.  [Internet: abboud@cedrus.com]

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:33 PST
From: Dan Dalal <DALAL%SCU.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: MAC IIci/Quadra networking questions

	We are planning on brining up a network of about 17 mac iicis and
	about 3 quadra 700 systems to the general user community here at
	the University. All systems are running system 7.0.1.

	Three main questions. 1. Is there a pd/shareware program out there
	that
	allows us(via a novell fileserver) to delete any files,folders, etc.
	created by a user while he's using one of these macs ? Like a
	ERASE *.* in DOS, but goes down a tree and also blows away the root ?

	2. In Novell(or appletalk), can you set up folders, files,etc. to
	be write-locked and un-deletable ? I know about the "locked" check-
	box when you do a option-I(information) on a particular file...

	3. Can INITS be run/installed off of a fileserver, so that we can
	avoid installing these(ie. Gatekeeper, etc). on the individual Macs ?
	If so, how ?

	thanks for any assistance.

	dan dalal
	santa clara university

	email - dalal@scu.bitnet

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:18:27 ITA
From: davide <STINCH%IMISIAM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Mac PC Exchange form Apple ? (Q)

Hi,
   recently I read about a new utility by Apple called
   Macintosh Pc Exchange

What it is? It is different from the old Apple File Exchange?

Where it is available? (via ftp?)

				 thank you all

					      davide proserpio

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Date: Wednesday, 29 Jul 1992 09:12:12 EDT
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: MCI Access

Pardon this FAQ (I've seen it posted before, but don't recall the
answer).  The discussions about the gateways to AOL, MCI, etc reminded
me of this.  What is the proper address for sending e-mail to someone
on MCI or AT&T mail from the Internet?

You can respond directly to me at jfritz@wvnvm.wvnet.edu.

Jeffrey Fritz
jfritz@wvnvm.wvnet.edu
West Virginia University

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 23:16:48 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Mirror (was Misleading Mac Adverts) (C)

On Tue, 28 Jul 92 11:10:42 EDT you said:
>Could someone summarize which parts of the MacTools
>version 2.0 package work just fine and which ones I am better off staying
>with the v1.2 incarnations?

I expect everyone will have their favorites.  I trust MacTools Disk
Optimizer more than Speed Disk (I've no reason to believe that version
2.0 hasn't corrected the tendency of the earlier version to crash, and
Disk Optimizer can take a LOOOOnnnngggg time, but I'm not going to find
out the hard way whether Speed Disk's problems have been fixed).  Disk
Optimizer will prioritize by date as well as type (which makes a
difference to AutoDoubler users when practically every "type" is DD
Document).  DiskFix seems at least as good as Disk Doctor (DiskFix seems
slower to  me, but Disk Doctor disagrees with Disk First Aid when Disk
Fix doesn't--is the majority correct?  darned if I know).  Save File
Edit from your earlier MacTools, it's disappeared from the new version
:-(

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 00:22:20 EST
From: Murph Sewall <SEWALL@UCONNVM.UCONN.EDU>
Subject: Mirror drives

On Mon, 27 Jul 92 21:30:01 EDT you said:
>> Mirrors is hopelessly slow and has a regrettable tendency to crash file
>> transfers :-(
>
>I use Mirror's 88 meg SyQuest, CD-ROM, 240 megs HD, and 19" b&w
>monitor, and I can confidently say that I've NEVER had one
>problem.  Mirror is a top-quality company, and I wouldn't buy
>my peripherals from any other company.

Well that's amusing.  The discussion was about MAC TOOLS Mirrors (a
cdev for backing up--mirroring--the volume directory and providing for
recovery of deleted files even after the trash is emptied).  Of course
you have the read ALL of the message to get that part...

Rosanne Rosannadanna award:
"Well; that's completely different" <I miss Gilda>

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 22:46:03 EDT
From: Seth Ness <ness@aecom.yu.edu>
Subject: mixed script systems

well, i tried to follow akif eyler's instructions for making a mixed script
system, in my case english and hebrew. i started with U.S. system 7.0 and
hebrew
system 7.0.1. i added the extension with a jewish star, the script with a
world icon, the hebrew keyboard and all the hebrew fonts. the only change
seems to be that the hebrew extension beeps upon startup. the hebrew keyboard
does not even show up in the keyboard layout control panel. but i looked with
resedit and it really is in the system. so this i cannot understand.
anyway next i'll try using the international system.

--
 Seth L. Ness                        Ness Gadol Hayah Sham
 Ness@aecom.yu.edu

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Date: 29 JUL 92 15:56:29.81-GMT
From: SYGNET%FRIAP51.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU
Subject: monaco font problem [Q]

hi,

I'm having a problem printing with the Monaco font.
The setup: Mac IIcx, Syst 7.0.1 Tuned 1.1.1
	   Personal LaserWriter SC
	   No init/extentions [shift boot]
	   Monaco TrueType font in system file
Using any word processor (Word, WriteNow, ClarisWorks)
or TextEditor (EditII, Alpha, MPW) I could test, I have a stange
behaviour:
When displayed on the screen, Monaco in 9 pts is fine (looks like
the "old" bitmap Monaco, probably the one that is in the Mac's ROMs)
But when printed to the PLW SC, the TrueType font (more pleasant design,
i.e. small "L" different from capital "i", zero different from capital "o")
is used but <SPACE> characters are a bit LESS WIDE than other characters,
wich is very painfull for a non-proportional font !
Printing with Monaco in 10 pts (or any other size) or with
Courier (any size) doesn't show this behaviour (feature ?, bug ?).

Could someone try to reproduce this on another type of printer ?
Any ideas ?, any solutions ?

Thanks in advance

J.F. Sygnet <sygnet@friap51.bitnet>

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 19:34:01 -0400
From: "Tad Davis" <davist@a1.relay.upenn.edu>
Subject: Norton FileSaver/Quicken?

I'm having a new and bizarre problem with Norton Utilities 2.0 and Quicken
3.0. I've been in contact with Symantec and Intuit and have not been able
to fix it yet.

I've been using Quicken to transmit payments to CheckFree for two months,
with Norton Filesaver running in the background, and with no problem.
Suddenly after doing three things to my system, the transmission
consistently bombs at the same point: after "receiving confirmation" from
CheckFree but BEFORE the Quicken file is updated to reflect it. The "bomb"
takes one of three forms: program hangs; bad f-line instruction; unknown
unexpectedly quit, error type 28.

What I've tried: re-installing both Quicken (absolutely latest version,
guaranteed, from Intuit) and FileSaver. Restarting from DiskTools disk and
deleting System and Finder, then reinstalling from originals. Running with
no extensions (holding down shift key). Running with all extensions but
FileSaver active. Deleting Norton and FileSaver preferences files and
recreating them. In each case, with FileSaver in, the transmission hangs;
with FileSaver out, everything works fine. Since the two worked fine
together for months, it seems obvious that one of the things I did caused
some hard-to-erase damage.

What I did to my system: (a) tried to install, and then reverse, an f-key
using a shareware utility. (b) loaded Norton Directory Assistance 2.0. (c)
loaded Disinfectant init 2.9. Based on the fact that I didn't know what I
was doing, (a) seems a likely suspect; but wouldn't deleting and
reinstalling the system file get rid of any resources I might have damaged?
If (b) or (c) were the problem, why would the crash occur when FileSaver is
the ONLY extension loaded? (Yes, I tried that one too.)

Another clue. Disk First Aid reported error 505, TarID=22, TarBlock=658. It
fixed it, but the problem continued. This may have been a symptom rather
than a cause of the problem. I'm grabbing at straws.

Finally, my configuration: Mac SE, System 7.0 + Tuneup 1.1.1; Moire 3.22,
FileSaver 2.0, Directory Assistance 2.0, Disinfectant 2.9; 4 meg of RAM. My
system has been quite stable and all these programs have worked together
beautifully... until now. There is obviously some corruption somewhere, and
I'm happy to take full responsibility for being stupid... just somebody,
please, tell me how to straighten it out!

Thanks,
Tad Davis
davist@a1.relay.upenn.edu

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 13:57:18 CDT
From: A. Scottedward Hodel <Dr.A.Scottedward.Hodel@eng.auburn.edu>
Subject: OzTeX and Fig

The most recent versions of OzTeX will allow users to draw diagrams with
MacDraw, etc., and import the graphic objects into and OzTeX file for output.
On Unix-based tex systems, typically the fig/xfig drawing programs are
used with an appropriate translator afterward.  It would be nice to be able
to transport/preview Unix-based figures in eepic format on a Mac.

Hoping for the best of situations, here's the question:
Is there any Mac equivalent to fig, xfig, and/or transfig for use with
OzTeX?

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 12:54:10 CDT
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
Subject: Pirates (C)

Louis Bergeron says that software pirates make him sick. He isn't the only
one. "Pirates" is an unfortunate term, since it still carries romantic
swashbuckling overtones. How about just "software cheats" or "software
thieves"?

I'm moved to agree with Louis in part by an article in the New York Times
earlier this week, "Though Illegal, Copied Software is Now Common", Monday's
edition, I think, beginning on p.1 of the front section. The article carries
on into the business section where it features a photo of one Charles
Farnham, sitting in a sea of floppies with a basketful on his knee. The
caption reads: Charles Farnham with the commercial programs he has copied
>From his friends' software. There's a IIci on the desk behind him, so he's
one of ours, unfortunately, not one of theirs.

The article goes over the usual rationales: "just checking the program
out", "the company is a big profitable corporation" and so on. Apparently
these people have never heard of demos or of small companies that go belly-
up. Or even of *big* companies that go belly-up (e.g. Ashton-Tate).

The most infuriating thing, of course, is that Farnham and people like
him are just free-riding on the backs of the honest folk, who have to
make up the lost revenue by paying higher prices. And with the internation-
alization of the business, the fallout does not respect national boundaries.
According to the article, a recent survey in Germany determined that there
are fewer software programs purchased than computers. Assuming that they
took bundling into account, that suggests a lot of theft. Which most people
reading this list, no matter what country they're in, will end up covering.

Graeme Forbes

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Date: 29 Jul 1992 12:20:50 U
From: "Robert Hess" <robert_hess@macweek.ziff.com>
Subject: Portable Backup System [A]

Portable Backup System [A]
Gordon Oppenheimer <GORDON%FAIR1.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu> asks what's the best
portable backup system.

Retrospect is pretty darn easy. Once you tell it the name of a Mac and its
zone
(if you use zones), you can backup that Mac from anywhere on the network.

Robert Hess
MacWEEK

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 21:53:38 -0400
From: bgoldstein@jplsp1.DNET.NASA.GOV (Bruce Goldstein, (818) 354-7366)
Subject: Posting for infomac digest

Could some kind soul please post Notify 2.2?  It is available on BIX
and may be available elsewhere.  It's freeware.  Thanks
B. Goldstein bgold@caltech.edu

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:54:38 -0800
From: Scott Allen Gruby <sgruby@jarthur.Claremont.EDU>
Subject: PrintMonitor

I noticed something interesting today in the PrintMonitor on my SE/30 which
may apply to other b/w Macs. If you go to the applications menu and look at
the icons for the other programs, they appear to be 3-D (or what 3-D is
supposed to look like). If you go back to the Finder, and go to the
applications menu, the icons are normal again.

Has anyone else noticed this?

Scott Gruby
sgruby@jarthur.claremont.edu

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 16:55:34 PST
From: Monte B. Olsen <olsenm@ccmail.orst.edu>
Subject: Quicktime and Quayle and Qudos (Kudos) to Infomac

Subject: Kudos and question

Could someone kindly step me through the procedure for download and then
making
the Quayleseason Quicktime movie work? I keep getting the message
saying there is no movie in the data fork. Yet the file downloads correctly, I
think. It doesn't show any preview information on the file icon though.

After the warm but not broiling flame sent to the Sumex moderator, I want to
respond by saying how much I appreciate the service you are offering. Your
file
library and the Info-mac newsletter are indispensable to me. I've shared much
information gained through your kind services, so your help extends far beyond
those who subscribe.

And if this isn't enough, does anyone know how to subscribe to the Vaporware
listserv?

Thanks again,

Monte Olsen
olsenm@ccmail.orst.edu

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Date: 29 Jul 1992 12:19:33 U
From: "Robert Hess" <robert_hess@macweek.ziff.com>
Subject: RE- ARA Script Editing

RE: ARA Script Editing
"bnhirsch" <bnhirsch@wiccmail.weizmann.ac.il> asked how to edit ARA scripts.

ARA scripts/tools are just text files with the type/creator "mlts" and
"slnk".
Using any text editor which will let you open files of any type, you can open
an ARA script/tool and change it. (Or you can change the type of the file to
"TEXT" and open it in your text editor normally; be sure to change it back
after editing.)

The language used inside an ARA script is CCL (I think it stands for
"connection control language"). It's pretty easy to understand and change.

There is, indeed, a HyperCard tool from Apple which facilitates the editing of
CCLs. I believe, however, it is part of the ARA programmers' toolkit sold by
APDA, so I don't think it can be distributed online.

Robert Hess
MacWEEK

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 14:37 CST
From: Andy Kesling <KESLING@gamma.is.tcu.edu>
Subject: Re-mapping Mac keyboard

I am using MacTerminal to login to a mainframe data base. The data base uses
function and PF keys found on DOS computers. I am wanting to know if there an
extention or CDEV available that will temporarily re-map my Mac extended
keyboard so that pressing, say, the F7 function key will generate the same
escape sequence as would be generated by a DOS keyboard.

Andy

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Date: 28 Jul 1992 17:07:09 U
From: "Robert Hess" <robert_hess@macweek.ziff.com>
Subject: RE- ResEdit Hack

RE: ResEdit Hack
RE: Wade Williams's comment "Unless you can find someone with a great
knowledge
of assembly language and a lot of time on their hands, it can't be done."

Actually, it's already been done. Not THAt hard, actually. I'll check my DAT
and grab the text file.

Robert Hess
MacWEEK

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Date: 28 Jul 1992 20:06:34 -0400 (EDT)
From: usr4818a@tso.uc.EDU (Robert E. Winston)
Subject: ResEdit batch processing (A)

  >Is there a simple way to set the "Use Custom Icon" bit in
  >the Get Info windows of 85 files, without opening each
  >individually?

FileTyper will do the job.
Finder info like Lock, Invisible, Stationary and *Custom Icons* can be set
as well as File Name, Creator and Type.
If you're using System 7 you can drop any number of files on FileTyper and
batch process them.
You can set the preferences so that you can drop a folder on FileTyper and
have all the files it contains opened for processing, including files
inside other folders.
Once you've set the Finder attributes, just click "Change All" and you're
all done.

At Sumex: info-mac//util/file-typer-32.hqx

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 16:55:04 EDT
From: Tom Coradeschi <tcora@pica.army.mil>
Subject: ResEdit Hacking finder sizes [Was: Re: ResEdit Hack]

wadew@DUCVAX.AUBURN.EDU writes:
>>DITL resource 6045 is the Replace file dialog in the System file.  I
>>renumbered the buttons such that the Replace button is #1 and the Cancel
>>button is #2.  Now, lo and behold the Replace button is the default
>>choice instead of the Cancel button (which is what I want, human inter-
>>face guidelines or not).  However, after doing this, the Replace button
>>acts like the Cancel button and the Cancel button is now the Replace
>>button.  What to do?  Perhaps someone knows the right code resource to
>>alter a la the recent modification to get the finder to show the free
>>disk space in K versus M.
>
>Unless you can find someone with a great knowledge of assembly language and
>a lot of time on their hands, it can't be done.

Actually, I've done it. But I'm damned if I can find the instructions
right now:-{

		tom coradeschi    <+>    tcora@pica.army.mil

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Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 23:48:36 -0700
From: "Carl L. Gay" <cgay@skinner.cs.uoregon.edu>
Subject: Sounds on the IIsi stop working

My IIsi frequently stops making system beep sounds and I have to go to
the Sound control panel and play around with it (increasing the volume
usually works) before it will beep again.  I don't have any special
sound software; just System 7.0.  How can I fix this?  Do I have to get
some upgrade I didn't hear about?

Please reply via email to cgay@cs.uoregon.edu and I'll summarize.
Thanks.

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Date: 29 Jul 92 08:03:25 U
From: "Capp Luckett" <capper@atqm.advtech.uswest.com>
Subject: StartupScreen

   Inter-Department Memo
SUBJECT:   StartupScreen                                  7/28/92      11:12
AM
Question:

I am having the StartupScreen on my Mac IIcx (System 7.0) display color
startup
screens.  I have tried them from Canvas and Gifconverter software.

Is there a command I need to use to reset something?

Capp Luckett
capper@atqm.advtech.uswest.com

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 12:19 GMT
From: Simon Shum <SJS2@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK>
Subject: Sys7 boot disk without Finder?

In a recent infomac, Christoph van Wuellen wrote:

Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 12:17:15 +0200
From: "Dr. Christoph van Wuellen"
<HBO043%DJUKFA11.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Sys7 boot disk for Quadras

It is perfectly possible to create a Sys7 boot disk and put a large
application on it. This has been discussed here several times.

Even Silverlining 5.30 fits on the boot disk.

The trick is to use a minimal Sys7 and to replace the Finder by the
desired Application.

C.v.W.
(This is how I got several partitions on my Classic II w/ 100mb disk)

_________________

I read this with interest (and some surprise), but since a Sys7 bootup with
Norton utilities on it would be useful gave it a shot.

I discarded the Finder from my current minimal sys floppy, and replaced it
with Norton, but my IIsi wouldn't accept it as a valid system boot disk on
restart.  Did I miss something?

Thanks,

Simon

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Date: 29 Jul 92 20:09:24 GMT
From: island!grenada.ign.island.com!darryl@uunet.UU.NET (Darryl Trujillo)
Subject: Sys 7 Startup disk fiasco!

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>Second, here are some thoughts on the whole issue:

>Try booting a Unix system from a floppy.

I'm able to boot my '386 unix box from a floppy just fine,
thanks.  It only boots in single-user mode, but that's
usually enough to fix any corrupted file systems and
such.

--
Darryl Trujillo
Island Graphics Corp.                    darryl@ign.island.com
Sonoma County, Ca.

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 08:31 CDT
From: barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us (Aaron Barnhart)
Subject: Word 5 willy-nilly Glossary saves

I am not happy about Word 5
's insistence that a Glossary save be treated like a Save As
command.

The scenario is, I'm quitting a wWord session, and am asked,
"Save glossary?"  I answer yes and get a dialog (ala Save As),
in the *last* directory I visited, which 99 times out of 100
*ain't* the dir that Standard Glossary is saved in.

Now it's true that I am able with Norton DA II to find the
old Standard rather easily, if I remember (last night I didn't),
and if I'm at work (at home I don't own Northe new Norts).

But why should I have to go to such lengths to add an entry
or two to my glossary?  Why does Word assume I want to create
a new glossary every time I make the slightest change?

Aaron (Barnhart@gagme.chi.il.us)

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Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 10:03 CST
From: <SWAECHTER%UTMEM2.BITNET@ricevm1.rice.edu>
Subject: Word and TT

I need some help for a friend.  He has been unable so far to get TrueType to
work with MicroSoft Word.  What happens is that all the characters (both on
the
screen and on the printed copy) are crammed into about 1" in the far left
margin.  This happens whether he tries to edit the font in an existing
document
or tries to type with TT fonts in a new document.  Here are the pertinent
details:

MacPlus, System 6.0.7 (with TT init), 1M RAM
MicroSoft Word 3.0.1
TT fonts (and the init) are the ones downloaded from ftp.apple.com, and
installed with the font/da mover in their package (4.1)

My guess is that the problem is either the 1M RAM or the 3.0.1 version of
Word.

Thanks for any and all help.

Steve Waechter
swaechter@utmem2 (bitnet)
swaechter@utmem2.utmem.edu (internet)

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