From: dfair@octel.com (Donald Fair)
Newsgroups: ba.general,su.market,ba.market.misc
Subject: Re: To Everyone Giving Away Pets!
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:44:15 GMT
Organization: Octel Communications Inc., Milpitas Ca.

In article <1992Aug17.155834.14153@informix.com> proberts@informix.com (Paul Roberts) writes:
>In article <1992Aug14.200721.2045@leland.Stanford.EDU> epr@leland.Stanford.EDU (edwin rock) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug14.151240.27096@leland.Stanford.EDU> shedevil@gw.home.vix.com writes:
>>>
>>>Please please be careful...apparently there are scads of people, at
>>>least in the Bay are, who will follow up on free pet (dogs and cats)
>>>ads, and then turn the animal/s over to labs and such, receiving a fee
>>>for their services.  One animal placement center suggests requesting
>>>some $ amount, which can be waived once you ascertain the person is
>>>sincere.
>>>
>>>Annie
>>
>>
>>
>>No animal research in the future means no new vaccines or therapies
>>for a vast number of diseases and other public health problems.
>
>
>Here's a short listing of advances without animals, provided by the 
>Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine.  
>
>-  Discovery of the relationship between cholesterol and 
>   heart disease, the number one cause of death for 
>   Americans 
>
>-  Discovery of the relationship between smoking and 
>   cancer and nutrition and cancer, the number two cause 
>   of death for Americans 
>
>-  Discovery of the relationship between hypertension and 
>   stroke the number three cause of death for Americans 
>
>-  Discovery of the causes of trauma, the number four 
>   cause of death in the United States, and the measures 
>   to prevent it 
>
>-  Elucidation of the causes of many forms of respiratory 
>   disease, American's number five cause of death 
>
>-  Isolation of the AIDS virus 
>
>-  Discovery of the mechanism of AIDS transmission 
>
>-  Discovery of penicillin and its curative effect on 
>   various diseases 
>
>-  Development of x-rays
>
>-  Development of anti-depressant and anti-psychotic drugs 
>
>-  Development of vaccine against yellow fever
>
>-  Discovery of the relationship between chemical 
>   exposures and birth defects 
>
>-  Discovery of human blood groups
>
>-  Discovery of the mechanism of protein chemistry in 
>   cells, including nucleic substances 
>
>-  Development of hormonal treatment for cancer in the 
>   prostate and breast 
>
>-  Discovery of the chemical and physiological visual 
>   process in the eye 
>
>-  Interpretation of the genetic code and its function in 
>   protein synthesis 
>
>-  Discovery of the mechanism and action of hormones
>
>-  Understanding of cholesterol biochemistry and familial 
>   hypercholesterolemia
>
>-  Production of Humulin, a synthetic copy of human 
>   insulin which causes few allergic reactions.  
>
>-  Understanding of human anatomy and physiology.
>
>Paul
>
>(reproduced from a posting on another newsgroup by
> Russell Lawrence, WP Group, New Orleans)

	I am not impuning your honesty but where was this
	list compiled. When I worked in Medicine we would
	have groups come along and tell us how we could
	computer model the human body and eliminate the
	need for testing. They said many things and claimed
	a sci. background. Who said the above. Where is it
	published. Who wrote it. What were their backgrounds.
	I see a number of statements that I believe to be
	totally incorrect. E.G. The eye studies. I know
	at least one research group doing some rather
	horrible things to kittens to study different
	effects of materials and conditions on the eye.
	Also, does this include lab rats? and mice? or
	do we make distinctions on the types of animals.
	Also, does this include the sheep and cattle and
	horses used to create the lab media, serum and
	early vaccines in the age indicated by this 
	report.
	I take no sides in the research issue. I just
	want the facts stated clearly and sources given
	in a scholarly manner. Rumor and speculation
	are useless when trying to formulate opinion.
	They make great argument though.
 
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