HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: bmacdona@bonnie.ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Subject: Re: Last Rights screw up
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Reply-To: bmacdona@ics.uci.edu (Brian K!z!K MacDonald)
Organization: Univ. of Calif., Irvine, Info. & Computer Sci. Dept.
Date: 9 Apr 92 22:37:11 GMT

In article <29E3691F.5093@noiro.acs.uci.edu> dan@cafws1.eng.uci.edu (Dan Harkless) writes:
>	Hey people.  Does anyone know what Capitol is going to do about the
>Puppy screw-up?  A massive recall?  (Doesn't sound likely.)  My friend bought
>one the disks before I could warn him...  I don't understand how Capitol could
>let something like that happen, anyway.  Don't they do tests to make sure
>things are coming out right before they press the whole batch!?  Jeez.  Anyway,
>does anyone know what Capitol is advocating owners with dogshit copies do?

    I've heard that Capitol WILL be doing something about this, but when...
   I am not exactly sure.

   First off, I SHOULD apologize for that TERRIBLE, teribble
    "HOAX" posting I initiated.  I found out that my source's sources were
    drunk at the KMFDM listening party.  Very foolish thing.

   But, now I can sleep knowing that a CORRECT issue will be in order
     SOMETIME in the future.
   (Now hopefully, THIS source wasn't drunk at some party too.)

                                                                  K!z!K


Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: carlson@viking.sps.mot.com (Brett Carlson)
Subject: Re: Users of Wicked Gravity (was Re: Arizona Industrial)
Organization: MOTOROLA 
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:16:26 GMT
Originator: usenet@nddsun1

I received the following correspondence from Remo, the keyboardist/techno  
hack of the Users of the Wicked Gravity.  Most of it is reprinted below  
with permission.

--brett

-------------------BEGIN INCLUDED MESSAGE--------------------

I certainly have no qualms with objections to our stuff, but it is usually  
strewn in with mucho fiction, which is extremely amusing (see below for a  
prime example)!

>anyhow, I posted a rebuttal (three times, as i'm finding out, due to  
>my idiocy in using this NewsGrazer) and some dude replied that you  
>broke up two weeks ago!  Hope that's not true....

I'm always the last one to know :-)
Nope, as far as I know we haven't broken up.  hmmmm, what happened
two weeks ago- oh yeah, one of the members went on a psychotic
rampage and killed all of the other members, including myself,
and I have come back from the dead to let you know that we are
still alive.  right.

Anyway, if you have any desire to post this response to  
rec.music.industrial,  so that everybody else who knows that we broke up  
can inform me,  I'd appreciate it.

For anybody else who IS interested:
o Yes, C.B. tour is definite.  If you believe we have broken up, or
  are simply anti-User, then don't show up for the first part of the
  show.  Note: we are not doing the entire tour- we are joining C.B.
  in New Orleans, traveling through the mid-west to the west and up
  through Canada, and ending in Chicago- at least this is what the
  booking agent last informed me.
o We are in pre-recording, setting up details of a studio session
  which is coming up.  Can't really say much more about that because
  it's all in the air...
o We're in the middle of a collaboration play entitled  
_Taste_of_Petroleum, 
_Smell_of_Your_Skin_, a 1950's post-nuclear-holocaust bonanza which
  will be performed at the end of July (looks like we'll actually
  be on the road with C.B. during the shows). It will be filmed, and 
  will be distributed some point later in the year.


Remo

!!!!GRRRRRrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrAVITY!!!!!!
U S E R S    O F    T H E    W I C K E D    G R A V I T Y
c/o: "remo@nsma.arizona.edu"

- Don't close your eyes or the dizzy kicks in
  Don't be surprised by the vertigo spin...
  Feel your brain melt from your mind
  Pretend to like but fucking hate your fucking kind!
	<<Hammerhead Vertigo>>
!!!!!!ytivaRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrrrrrrrrrrrRRRRRRrrrrrg!!!!

------------------------END INCLUDED MESSAGE---------------------------
From: jeremy@sw.oz.au (Jeremy Fitzhardinge)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: SEVERED HEADS BREAKUP? OUCH!
Date: 14 Apr 92 02:04:02 GMT
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd

In <craigb.702876210@morgana> craigb@resmel.bhp.com.au (Craig Blundell) writes:
>Nettwerk wanted a Skinny Puppy/Ministry clone but got Severed Heads instead :-)

Don't they have Skinny Puppy anyhow?

--
jeremy@softway.sw.oz.au ph:+61 2 698 2322-x122 fax:+61 2 699 9174
Many a wonderful picnic has been spoiled by Blubberknife.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV (Greg Earle - Sun JPL on-site Software Support)
Subject: Re: BACK and FORTH
Followup-To: rec.music.industrial
Organization: Sun Microsystems - JPL on-site Software Support
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:01:01 GMT

Nicklas Backlund:
>So, why does it say 50 on the cover?
>It says something like "... a limited edition of 50 copies, your copy number
>5", where "5" is written by hand.
> 
>I don't really care if it was released in 30 or 50 copies, but as you
>mentioned it...
 
MICHAEL W. LUCAS:
>The label says 50 copies of this SP tape were made.
>
>They were all done by hand.  The first few are "good" copies, and the
>rest were done on a high-speed dubbing machine.
>
>cEVIN got tired after doing the first 35 or so, however, and so
>the last 10-20 tapes (the number varies according to the source)
>simply don't exist.

Michael's close.

The reason it said "50" is because that's the number of copies that cEVIN
intended to make originally.  He got tired (-:

He made the first 10-15 by hand, the "slow" method.  The latter copies (up
to 30 or 35) were done with a high-speed dubber and are lower in quality.
There are no copies of 31-50 or 36-50, I forget which it is.

cEVIN told me what the exact numbers of each (hand/high-speed/not made) were
in February, but I've since forgotten the exact numbers.  Sorry.  It was one of

	- 10 hand-made / 15 dubbed / 25 not made
	- 10 hand-made / 20 dubbed / 20 not made
	- 15 hand-made / 15 dubbed / 20 not made
	- 15 hand-made / 20 dubbed / 15 not made

The actual numbers aren't really important.

>If you have a tape numbered #49 or so, it's probably a bootleg.

This is definitely true.

-- 
	- Greg Earle			| Disclaimer: I would be just as
	  Sun Los Angeles		| mortified if Sun thought I was
	  JPL on-site Software Support	| speaking for the company as Sun is at
	  earle@poseur.JPL.NASA.GOV	| the thought of me speaking for it.
From: ryans@yang.earlham.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Think Tree
Date: 15 Apr 92 22:26:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: yang.1992Apr15.172658.16991
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana


In article <LANCER.92Apr8130100@hikita.WPI.EDU>, lancer@hikita.WPI.EDU (Stephen Lewis Foskett) writes:
> 
> So, does anyone else out there think this band is pretty good?  I seem to
> remember a thread about them here a few months ago...
> 
> They're playing this sunday in Northampton, MA...Can't wait...
> (Fugazi is playing on Saturday...yee-haw)
> 
> Also, I remember someone mentioning that he had a recording of a concert in
> boston recently.  Well, to him and others, I just came by a recording of
> them from '89.  It's a great show, and a really great recording...2nd
> generation from a digital recording off the soundboard!  I don't sell
> things like this, but if anyone wants to trade for a copy of this or any of
> my others, I'd be willing.  oops, I probably should mention which others
> I've got...  Jane's Addiction, REM, New Order, Joy Division...
> 
> Later
> .s.
> --
> - lancer@wpi.wpi.edu - modem (508)slob0pc - lancer@well.sf.ca.us -
> -   But it's the partially clothed for the partially sighted     -
> -         Behind over matter keeps the crowds delighted          -


any chance you might be willing to trade Joy Division boots for anything else?
(I'm a recent Joy Division convert and would love to start collecting live 
material, but don't have anything to trade...)
take it easy,
Ryan
From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Severed Heads
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:13:10 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

And lo, kevinb@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Kevin Busby) spake unto the masses saying:
>
> Any ideas why they want to use another producer? Tom always does a good job.

I suspect they want a drastically different sound, either in keeping with
the "Nettwerk sound" or Something Else. OK, OK, I know there's no real
Nettwerk sound but I was referring to some sort of industrial-lite - like
earlier Puppy or Manufacture or whatever.

The Something Else is a possibility I don't even want to contemplate -
sanitised, utterly commercial Severed Heads. Justin Strauss remixes that
blend in bits of old Kraftwerk songs and disco "oooo"s. Nah, the prospect
is just too horrible to contemplate and I don't think Tom would go for it.

I think the producer thing *may* have arisen from the time Tom usually
takes in production. Perhaps they figure that if they do the production
elsewhere they can pipeline things, so Tom can be busy writing one album
while their tame producer is polishing off the previous one??

--
		      Al Crawford - awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk
       "Breakdown. Splinter. A thousand fragments disperse and die."
From: mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Skoda)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: D Musik Des Weltraums 4/18 - PTV Question/Ambient House Q
Date: 9 Apr 92 03:33:43 GMT
Organization: CS Dept, Ball St U, Muncie, Indiana


I've got some questions after the playlist...Please help me by answering
them if you can...




	So this show was going to be my first all digital show, until I
went into the station and saw 1 of the 2 cd players was out of service, which
puts a SEVERE hamper in cuing up a song whilst another plays. So I figured
I'd tough it out by filling things with between song "filler", as in parts
from spoken word albums, etc. All in all it worked out really well. I did, 
however, break down and play Vinyl. I figure, why toy around with the 
Skinny Puppy CD and its off-timed tracks, when vinyl is so much easier to
deal with in this situation...

	And hey, no obligatory foul up on this show...


Cabaret Voltaire	Enough's Enough			Listen up With CV
Doubting Thomas		I.D.L.				The Infidel
Dudley/Coleman		Ziggarats of Cinnamon 		Single
Eon			Spice				Vinyl Solution Sample
Front Line Assembly	Mindphaser 12"			Single
Godflesh		Mothra				Single
Intermix		Soviet Low			Intermix
LA Style		JB is Dead			Single
Glen Meadmore		Do Me				PTV:Beyond Ultrahouse
N-Joi			Mindflux			Mindflux
The Orb			Star 6&789(Phase II)		Perpetual Dawn Single
Psychic TV		S.M.I.L.E.			Towards the Infinite
Quadrophonia		Quadrophonia(Remix)		Cozmic Jam
Skinny Puppy		Circustance			Last Rights
Swans			Mother, My Body Disgusts Me	Body to Body Job toJob
Wire			Life In the Manscape (12")	Single
The Young Gods		Nous De La Lune			The Young Gods


The Young Gods didn't quite fit all the way on the tape...

Tapes can be acquired by sending $3.00 to:

Michael Tressler
Swinford Hall
Box 87
Muncie, In 47306



------------------------QUESTIONS-------------------------------------------

There are 2 Psychic TV cds on sale at the local Music store (which is mostly
lame). ANYWAY, the 2 are "Mouth of the Night" and "Kondolone" (or something
like that...release date is like 1988). Is either of these good enough to
purchase for $19.00??? I REALLY like "Towards the Infinite Beat" a whole bunch


Can someone point me to some "Ambient House" albums? I've decided I love the
Orb's "Adventures...". Other things in the same Vein I like: Art Of Noise
(The Ambient Collection), He Said "Take Care". I heard some Orbital in a
store a week ago, and that seemed promising...Same with the 2 Moby Songs
I've heard. I want songs with Beats that PULSE, not ThRoB, and that are
pretty mellow/laid back, but with a techno feel. Certainly someone knows a
few good choices (Preferably US Domestic)



mike
mtressle@bsu-cs.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dcuddihy@nmt.edu (David Cuddihy)
Subject: Re: CHICAGO-underground TECHno clubs....RAVES???
Organization: New Mexico Institute of Mining and Technology
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 18:49:20 GMT


If anyone has any clues as to the RAVES part of the previous 
request, let us/me know! (i.e. if they happen, where they
happen, and who'd know about them happening...

			-Dave

	gsn!records:pob3124cs:socorro,nm87801
From: EIVERSO@cms.cc.wayne.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: DEPECHE MODE MURDERS ROUTE 66
Date: 7 Apr 92 18:55:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: cms.167C2D1FA.EIVERSO
Organization: Wayne State University, C&IT

In article <7APR199212013652@zeus.tamu.edu>
pac9897@zeus.tamu.edu (REVENGE OF THE KILLER TOMATOES) writes:

>
>In article <0E315UQ@mailgzrz.tu-berlin.de>,
>karnabba@w253zrz.tu-berlin.de (Alexander Karner) writes...
>
>......
>>By the way: Vince Clarke founded Yazzoo and Erasure, but he NEVER had
>>ANYTHING to do with YAZZ (I think this is (was) an american or a
>>"Stock, Aitken, Waterman" group!!).
>>
>>Alex
>
>Well Yazzoo were called Yazz over here in the US, no seroiusly, don't ask
>me why. I had a huge argument with someone when I first arrived because
>they insisted that Yazz was an electronic group with Alison Moyet and
>not some ditsey bimbette who released two singles.

Guess what? Yaz was the shortened name for Moyet & Clarke's group.
The other group was called Yazz (with 2 zeds as the the Canadians say;) )
The name was changed due to a lawsuit with some amatuer sports team named
Yazoo or Yazzoo or soemthing.

Obj industrial: Everything recorded more than 2 years ago sucks. :)

--Eric
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Lyrics for ...
From: msgates@amherst.edu
Date: 6 Apr 92 19:38:00 GMT
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.

The first place to check for song lyrics ought to be the ftp lyrics server
at cs.uwp.edu. The list of available lyrics is enormous...and surprisingly
useful. I remember seeing Ministry and Skinny Puppy in the directory, so
RevCo is probably there too. (The person looking for Joy Division lyrics
could find those there, too.) They don't have a lot of the more obscure 
bands a lot of us listen too, but every now and then the directory may
surprise you.  Check it out if you haven't already.

Systems may be different, so I won't waste space explaining how to access it.
Should be easy enough to figure out; if not, e-mail me & I'll explain.

Hope this helps!

			--mags
From: kpm8447@tesla.njit.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: MC900 Ft Jesus - NYC!!!!
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:45:15 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology

Anyone know the May date for MC 900 Ft Jesus playing the Limelight
in NYC?
 - Kirk
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: dkletter@adobe.com (SUGAR in their vitamins?)
Subject: Re: Mark Pauline & SRL
Organization: Flying Esophagus Productions
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 19:19:42 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.062730.5712@leland.Stanford.EDU> srfrrosa@leland.Stanford.EDU (Maiko Hara) writes:
>SRL has NOT disbanded.  In fact, they just held a show as a groundbreaking
>ceremony for SFMOMA on April 8.  Mark Pauline is giving a lecture at Drug #6
>in San Francisco on April 16 at 9 pm.

i think maybe the person was referring to the rumour that the disbanded just
AFTER the SFMOMA show. the latest rumour i heard was that the city slapped
Mark with a lawsuit because of the fire. just a rumour though. don't go
blowing this out of hand. i'm sure that at his lecture he'll clear up all
these things.

>SRL tours Europe, but a guy from SRL told us that it was the last show 
>in the US until they return from Europe.

yeah, that's true. aparantly, Mark is not able to do shows around these
parts anymore because the city doesn't "approve" of all the fires and
burnings and general chaos involved.

>SRL videos should be available, but I don't know where you could get them.  
>You may want to contact SRL or the Research people.

wrong. there was a falling out between SRL and the REsearch people and
REsearch is no longer carrying his videos. Mason could clear this up,
but i thought i heard that the AMOK folks are going to be distributing
it now.

hasta.


-- 
Yes.  Beautiful, wonderful nature.  Hear it sing to us: *snap*  Yes.  natURE.
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: chucksi@stc.comm.mot.com (DX504 Chuck Siu)
Subject: Re: HELP!!! with project
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:32:17 GMT

>Alesis Quadraverb?  Hmm, I've been using one of them for about three years
>in my Electroacoustic Music course and while it's got some cool effects for
>sure, it also has this really annoying hum to it.  I trust not all Quadraverbs
>are so blessed?  =)

I have a Quadraverb and a QuadraverbGT. The pre-amp in the GT is AWESOME!
(I'm not getting any hummmm, so....) You can certainly process vocals
through the pre-amp section of the GT and get wonderful gritty distortion as 
I've done this....


>> The most important thing, though, is to start saving your pennies NOW
>> for an Alesis ADAT digital multitrack recorder.  Trust me on this one.
>> Shoot for $4000 US.  
>
>Oh, man, I'm positively drooling....How many tracks?  I'm just too used to
>an analogue 8-track with tracks 1 and 8 that roll off of the reel... =)
>
	Yes, yes, yes. The ultimate in digital multitrack just aching for
industrial use, since it adhere's to most MIDI/SMPTE timecode standards 
WITHOUT using an extra track through it's BRC (Big Remote Control). By the way,
I'm able to purchase each ADAT unit at $3350 US in Chicago.

Chuck Siu


-- 
Chuck Siu                      |  Things that
CAS Systems Consulting, Ltd    |  go "Schwing!" in the night...
chucksi@comm.mot.com           | 
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: kmfdm@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Michael Alan Johnston)
Subject: CHICAGO-underground TECHno clubs....RAVES???
Originator: kmfdm@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 03:53:55 GMT

I am going to be going to
chicago this next weekend and
want to go to a rave or a real cool Techno club.  I am under 21 so
the club would have to be an all ages or 17+ how ever it works there
If some one could mail me the names of the clubs it would really
help me out
Thanks
mike jk

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From: 474mcwilliam@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Xymox-need discography for 12"/b sides
Date: 7 Apr 92 03:04:27 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

I'm trying to track down everything that's every been released by Clan of
Xymox. Most interesting to me, are 12" singles and b-sides. For those who
don't know, there is an origial version of muscoviet musquiot floating around
on a compilation album on the Sweatbox label. This is the version from the
nearly extinct Xymox album Subsequent Pleasures. 

Anyone with any info, please write!

Brian
From: jeremy@sw.oz.au (Jeremy Fitzhardinge)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: SEVERED HEADS BREAKUP? OUCH!
Date: 14 Apr 92 01:56:39 GMT
Organization: Softway Pty Ltd

In <31360@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford) writes:
>And lo, jeremy@sw.oz.au (Jeremy Fitzhardinge) spake unto the masses saying:
>> Why is it in doubt?  He did seem pretty certain last December.
>
>At the time I posted it was looking as though Tom might be getting out of
>the music business altogether. Fortunately, it seems he isn't - he's just
>taking a break from Severed Heads for a while to concentrate on other
>stuff.

Hm..  The impression I'd got was that he wanted to not produce music as
such, but as part of a video project.  This would be A Good Thing.
While I like the music, I think the video+music is very much better
(_All Saints Day_ and _Harold and Cindy Hospital_ spring to mind).
While it would be vaguely irritating, if there were never an audio only
Ellard production, it would be good.  However, one could say that
that's been the case all along.

--
jeremy@softway.sw.oz.au ph:+61 2 698 2322-x122 fax:+61 2 699 9174
Many a wonderful picnic has been spoiled by Blubberknife.
From: cspot@cats.ucsc.edu (Chris.Hilker)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Front 242 News
Date: 9 Apr 92 05:45:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz


Just heard a few things (on Prodigy, of all places):

- The Epic rereleases of the pre-'Tyranny' 242 albums will
all have at least one bonus track.

- There will be a home video with lots of cool stuff released
in the U.S. (I finally get to watch "Headhunter" without
taking my CDV to my friend's house!)

- There will be a display of Front 242 art, whatever that is,
in Chicago, L.A., and New York soon.

- Their new album should be out in September or October of
this year.

- They recently acquired a Macintosh Quadra 900.

C.
-- 
ALL OF US ARE ONE PEOPLE
Chris.Hilker
cspot@cats.ucsc.edu
From: ugrimly@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (GrImlY FiENDisH)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Psychic T.V. -where the F*CK are you?
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:14:34 GMT

In <1992Apr8.031929.5754@wpi.WPI.EDU> waxtrax@wpi.WPI.EDU (Jay) writes:



>   I understand that G. P-Orridge is in a bit of a mess in England and all,
>   but whatever happened to that tour they were supposed to do?  The one I 
>   heard about a few months back before UltraHouse came out?  Did I miss it?

>                                                Still waiting,
>                                                       -Jay

This weekend I talked to a guy at Ameba, a clothes store in SF where PTV get
their clothes, and he said that they are in northern California now. They
don't have the money to take care of their legal fees at home, so they are      
staying out of the country for a while. Their tour was all planned and set to
go when Wax Trax bailed on them due to financial difficulty. PTV are planning
to put on a rave in the Bay Area in a few months. As for their tour, it never
happened.

--G