From: motto@bucknell.edu (john motto `94)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: PROPOSAL: Ban Certain Bands from this Pub...
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:52:50 GMT
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In article <12400@jjmhome.UUCP>, tgs@jjmhome.UUCP (Thomas G. Seidenberg) writes:
|> 
|>     YOU HAVE ABSOLUTELY GOT TO BE KIDDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|> You really think that people are not going to talk about "not-mostly-God"
|> music on this group???  Hey, Why don't we create a new group
|> rec.music.not.quite.christian ?????  C'mon!!!!  Have you listened to the NEW
|> Extreme album ???  HAVE YOU???  Obviously not, because had you, without all
|> the petty 'ROCK' prejudices the people on this group have, you would have
|> found that it is MORE CHRISTIAN THE AMY GRANT'S "HEART IN MOTION"!!!!
|> I have listened to BOTH and am A BIG FAN OF AMY, so don't bother to flame
|> me for this!!!  It makes me so entirely sick that people can think ROCK
|> music is bad, is indulgent, and is evil!!!  LISTEN TO COUNTRY SOMETIME!!!!


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|> 
|> I told this story before on this same subject, and I guess I'm gonna have to
|> tell it again...
|>    I am a trained (Peer) Youth Minister in the Diocese of Worcester, MA.
|> I have been on "Team" for more retreats than I can count and have directed
|> 4 or 5.  I have seen and experienced the power, the passion, the HEALING
|> POWER that ALL, ABSOLUTELY EVERY KIND OF MUSIC, can have in the lives of
|> young people!!!  You fail to understand, you do not even TRY to understand
|> the psychological and emmotional impact of this music on your young people,
|> on YOUR OWN CHILDREN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  How can you be so ignorant!!!!  You
|> WILL NOT solve the "music problem" by degrading something that means so
|> much to so many other people!!  My Faith has been STRENGTHENED MORE by
|> quote-un-quote "secular" music than by all the Christian music I have
|> listened to - AND THAT IS ALOT!!!  Flame me, fry me, even pray for my
|> "misguided" ways... I am not bothered!  I know the issues.  I understand
|> the younger adolescent and older adolescent!  I have studied the goals,
|> the needs, the psychology, the emotional developement, the physical
|> developement of these people!!!  GIVE THEIR MUSIC A CHANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|> STOP BEING SO CLOSE MINDED!!!!!  STOP INSINUATING THAT OTHERS ON THIS
|> GROUP HAVE NOT "COME OF AGE" IN THEIR CHRISTIANITY BECAUSE THEY LISTEN TO
|> ARTISTS WHO ARE NOT OVERTLY CHRISTIAN!!!  FOR ONCE BE A PEACEMAKER AND NOT
|> A BELIGERANT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
|> 
|> AAAAHHHHHHH, I feel much better now!   :)
|> 
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> Peace in Christ Jesus,       Thomas Seidenberg	      \ | /
|> 						            ----+----
|> To him belongs all Glory, Honor, and Praise	              / | \
|> Now and Forever!!  Amen!!  Alleluia!!		  Alpha | Omega   Rev 22:13
|> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------

AMEN, AMEN!  THANK YOU LORD!

Finally!  Someone who is not afraid to stand up and speak out for what he 
believes in!  I agree with Thomas 100%.  I am too a Catholic and a Christian
and I listed to anything from Michael W. Smith to METALLICA AND MEGADETH!  I
too can honestly say that my faith has been strengthened by music like that.
I see what the rest of the world does and I thank God that He pulled me from
these perils and gave me eternal life.  I listen to Metallica/Megadeth, etc.
for the MUSICAL VALUE (I am an avid, if not good, guitar player) and not
for the lyrical value.  I could care less what the lyrics say...they are
talented musicians.  I guess that since rock is evil that bands like Vengeance
Rising, Tournequit, and Guardian are from satan, no?  Vengeance is one of the
hardest rocking bands I have ever heard.  The power of the music they play, and
the style they do it in far surpass any secular band I have ever heard.  Nothing
can make me give up my music!

Thomas, I am by your side on this 100%.  If anyone is going to flame away at
him, make sure you flame me as well, okay????

In our Savior and Lord, 

John Motto

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"There ain't nowhere to run!       -Vengeance Rising, "White Throne"
 Nowhere to hide!
 From the Great White Throne,
 So now's the time to die!"

            
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