From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Subject: Re: Heisman
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 21:26:12 GMT
Organization: VMARK Software, Inc.

In article <1992Dec14.142936.868@cpqhou.compaq.com> chuckd@cpqhou.compaq.com (Chuck Dickson) writes:
>in article <Bz8oFz.Kzx@encore.com>, jfawcett@encore.com (Jason Fawcett) says:
>> 
>> | So from that standpoint, he 
>> | certainly doesn't deserve the award.
>> 
>> Gino had almost twice as many #1 votes as the #2 guy Faulk.  So who does
>> deserve it.   Football is a team sport, everyone gets help from other
>> team players.  Also, a very good team win record is required.
>
>Why should a "very good team win record" be a requirement for the Heisman?
>Why should great players who don't have a supporting cast be ruled out?
>Why should a player that can break tackles for long gains be ruled out 
>because his defense can't prevent the other teams GRANDMOTHERS from running
>and passing down their throats?

Not to argue the point in favor of Gino (who I think "deserved" it, but didn't
"earn" it), but I think that team record SHOULD be considered.  It should not
be a requirement, but what is the #1 thing people pin on the shoulders of
the QB???  Winning...  And, in the last 3 years, NO ONE has done a better job
at it then Gino and Miami.  Yes, the defense deserves a great deal of the 
credit, as do the receivers (and, to Gino's credit, one of the first things out
of his mouth in his acceptance speech was this very fact), but so does Gino.

In his defense, Gino only threw 4 interceptions this year, not counting the
Syracuse game (where he threw 3).  For a team that passes as often as Miami
does, that is a pretty incredible stat as far as I am concerned.  He had a 
great year, and I dare anyone to disagree with that.  Stat-wise, he was not
the highest rated statistical QB.  But, he was on a team that played plenty
of top notch teams, and he managed to keep his team in a position to win it.
And he did so with a running attack that was decimated and almost non-existent
and a fairly weak offensive line (that got stronger as time went on though).
He was under constant pressure and the defenses knew he was going to throw, so
they ran 6 or more DBs at him, and he still managed to do what he did.  If 
Gino/Miami had a running attack to go with his passing, his stats would have
been even higher, as Miami would have mixed it up some.. Also, due to Miami
blowing a good number of teams out, he sat out a great deal of many games,
which made his stats even lower...

>I don't neccessarily think Faulk should get the Heisman, I just believe that
>as a PLAYER, he is certainly better than Torretta.
>
>Look for Faulk in the NFL.  Look for Torretta in the CFL, or maybe doing
>something related to whatever degree he received at Miami.  If he DOES go
>to the NFL, he will be about as successful as that other Miami Heisman 
>quarterback.  Maybe he'll help Vinny keep the Tampa franchise where it is
>so accustomed to being.

Well, I agree with you that Faulk probably should have gotten the Heisman. 
But, as much as people complain about the Heisman, I seem to remember Gino
won just about every other major award possible as well.  And, the Heisman
has NEVER supposed to have been the "most likely to succeed in the NFL" award,
so what does all that have to do with it.  You try to liken his potential
success to Vinny T...  Well, maybe he will have the success of a Kelly or
Kosar instead...  Though I wouldn't say he is going to be a superstar, I
seem to remember a couple of other great successes that weren't expected
to..  My main memory... Dan Marino...  what was he, like the 7th QB taken
that year???  
>
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