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From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matt Simmons)
Subject: Re: More on 3DO
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:29:03 GMT
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Thorne Kontos (kontos@clipper.ingr.com) wrote:
: Who makes the ARM RISC chip? 

: In the current Computer Currents magazine (1/12/93), it is stated that
: the first 3DO game brought out by Steven Speilberg will be based on
: Jurassic Park. It is also stated that developers for Trip Hawkins 3DO
: machine will pay a very low licensing fee (<$5) on each game sold. And
: developers will have no restrictions on what games they can bring out,
: or how many. This is entirely unlike Nintendo, which has numerous
: restrictions, and provides low profit margins for its developers.

Can you tell me more about these restrictions?

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From: jprad@faatcrl.faa.gov (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 24 Jan 1993 03:35:24 -0500
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kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason 'KodaK' Balicki) writes:

>	File and directory names can be up to 30 characters long
>	and can contain . . . punctuation marks that do not have 
>    	special meanings.  You cannot use [:, ;, *, /, ?, ', #,
>        or %].

>So if it was wrong, it was wrong in the manual.

  Hmm, the Bantam manual differs on this, and must be correct as I just used
Workbench to rename a file to ";*?'#%"

  It gets a little tougher from the shell though, couldn't do the same, but
I didn't try too many quoted/escaped variations to verify.

  -jack-
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From: skip@tacky.cs.olemiss.edu (Skip Sauls)
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
Organization: University of Mississippi, Dept. of Computer Science
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:32:35 GMT

In article <1k4pagINN3d5@mozz.unh.edu> ggg@kepler.unh.edu (Gregory G Greene) writes:
>>For those who want the MMU and can't afford a 4000, Commodore has said that
>>a straight '030 based AGA machine is in the works for the near future.
>
>	Why is it taking so long to get out the intermediate AGA Amigas?  The
>  A4000 has a CPU expansion card does it not?  How hard can it be to make a 
>  new expansion card with a different CPU?   It seems to me that Commodore is
>  dragging its feet on this one.  There should already be a selection of CPU
>  modules available.

Well, I don't know for certain what the real reason is, but I suspect it may
have something to do with getting enough AGA chips to satisfy demand.  The
A4000 and A1200 have, by most accounts, been selling rather well and it may
not be feasible to release new models.  If they are selling everything that
they can produce at the current pricing, are new models essential?

Of course, you know the real reason that Commodore has not released these
machines yet, don't you?  It's because they know how much you want one and
they're hoping that you'll give up, get something else, and go away...  :-)

>							Greg Greene
>                                                        ggg@kepler.unh.edu
>
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From: bruce@zuhause.MN.ORG (Bruce Albrecht)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  message to local dealers
Distribution: world
Date: 23 Jan 93 10:43:57 CST
Organization: Society to Stamp Out Bogus Organizations

In article <C0x6AI.xr@boi.hp.com> blj@fc.hp.com (Bruce Johnson) writes:
>It seems to me that Commodore still has a market for the Amiga,  but that
>market does not include buisiness.  The main market seems to be the $400 to
>$1200 system with good graphics and sound.  Nothing can touch the Amiga in
>that price range.  Commodore can sell A3000 and A4000 machines as an upgrade
>to prior users,  but I don't see many sales to 1st time Commodore buyers.  
>IMHO,  there are several reasons the Amiga can't crack the buisiness market.
>
>1. The OS was designed to efficient,  at the expense of robustness.  In order
>to make the multitasking work fast,  task isolation got thrown out the window.

How is this different from a Mac running MultiFinder, or a PC running Windows?
It's not, and those two are the most common business app machines.  AmigaDOS
is not Unix, but it doesn't take Unix to make a machine a reliable business
machine.  Individual applications tend to be more robust than they used to be,
mostly because more developers are using tools like Enforcer and MungWall to
catch the obvious stuff.

>4. Unreliable hardware.  I was all set to buy an A3000 a year ago,  but at a
>users group meeting I talked to somebody who had one.  " Oh it's great", he 
>said,  " I had to return the 1st one,  but this one is working fine... except
>for the monitor.  The dealer should have one next week though".  Then he 
>started up a program and guru'ed.  Things still aren't any better,  look at
>all the problems with overheating 4000's and 1200's blowing video chips.

I don't think it's especially unreliable.  People don't typically post that
there machine is working great, so you only hear about the problems.  The A4000
and A1200 are new machines, and new machines tend to be more susceptiable to
quality problems than machines that have been produced for 6 months or more.
For what it's worth, I had a hard drive die on my PC at work a month after I
got it.  Two years ago, a consultant was telling me about his experiences with
a very reputable PC Clone manufacturer where over 20% of the machines received
directly from the factory were DOA.

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From: don@chopin.udel.edu (Donald R Lloyd)
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 23:10:22 GMT

 msmcknig@unccsun.uncc.edu (Michael S McKnight) writes:
>Why in the world is Commodore making all of their new machines with the EC chips
>instead of the full blown versions?  The A1200 has a 68EC020, the proposed A4000
>-030 has a 68EC030 and I even heard that the chip in the A4000 was a 68EC040.

     One more time for those who've missed the first hundred reiterations of
this:


     The Amiga 4000 does NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT __NOT!__ have an EC040!
The box the machine itself comes in has a spot where EC040 can be check-marked,
but NO A4000 CURRENTLY SHIPPING USES AN EC040!

>Sure, it might be cheaper, but by how much?  We should at least be given the
>option.  Using the EC chips makes virtual memory impossible and UNIX, should
>CBM ever get back into it, also impossible.

     Virtual memory has nothing to do with the EC chips.  VM can be done
on a 68010 (in fact I believe I've heard of a machine which used a pair of
68Ks for it).

>If CBM wants to leave the MMU out of the low end machines (600, 500), fine, but
>no AGA machine (which I consider medium to high-end) should come with anything
>less than a full-blown version of its respectable CPU.

     The 500 is history, and the 600 is poised as a Nintendo competitor. 
The 1200 is the low end of the AGA line, designed to replace the A500 as the
big cash cow for CBM.  In its market, price is very important, thus the EC020.
The only way to achieve any real added functionality processor-wise in the
1200 would have been to go full '030, which would've bumped up the price 
quite a bit.  The 4000/EC030 is for people who don't want to pay extra for the
MMU since they don't plan to use it (or haven't the slightest idea what it is
but want a machine that's more expandable than the 1200).
     For those who want the MMU and can't afford a 4000, Commodore has said that
a straight '030 based AGA machine is in the works for the near future.




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From: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matt Simmons)
Subject: Re: CBM Announces Price Cuts on A4000/A1200dir
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Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:40:52 GMT
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Gregory R Block (gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu) wrote:
: The existence of global warming is currently unknown.  If it were
: possible to say that it was wrong that simply, then global warming
: wouldn't be an issue, would it?

: Obviously, people do think it exists.  Obviously, enough people think
: that it exists that a great majority of society knows what it is, and
: has formed some kind of an opinion on it.
Can you say vocal (liberal) minority?

: One cannot "write off" global warming without knowing more.  If you'd
: like to go ahead and say it's not true, that's just fine, but you run
: the risk of playing the fool.

: Greg

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There is also the fact that one generally wants to MAKE MONEY off products one
develops, not give them away to twerpy prepubescent drips who wouldn't pay for
software if it came out of the monitor and blew them. - Marc Wandschneider
From: weigner@rcshq.adsp.sub.org (Jan Weigner)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re:  HELP--AMIGA OR IBM PC CLONE?
Date: 23 Jan 93 09:12:02 GMT
Organization: RCS Management Germany

In article <1993Jan18.233931.9566@src4src.linet.org> scottw@src4src.linet.org (Scott Weintraub) writes:

>This post also came after somebody was comparing some of the Amiga video
>cards and their speeds to some of the cards available on the PC platform.
>You may be very happy spending $9000 for a card but let's go down to the
>$200-500 range where there are over a dozen cards for the IBM that can
>do 24-bit in 640x400, 800x600, and a then go up to 1024x768 and 1280x1024
>with much less colors but still out of a 24-bit palette.  They all have
>co-processors on them and work quite fast.  What can I pick up for that
>kind of money on the Amiga?  Nothing!  How is this even debatable?
>

Retina from MacroSystems goes 800*600 in 24Bit and even higher but then at
less than SVGA-standard screen refresh rates. Does video frequency too.


>The Silicon Graphics Workstation vs. the Vidid24 is completely different
>providing we're comparing speed.  I'd just like to say that I seriously
>and I mean *VERY* seriously doubt that the Vivid is capable of even
>touching the Workstation.  Not only that, but where are you going to get
>the software to support the Vivid?  This is a "when I see it I'll believe
>it" to the 10th power.

We have the software for the Vivid and for the Rambrandt. Do you have the
money to buy it? Professional software is also higher in price like on
workstations!

Forthcoming: REAL3D for Vivid24
Available:   Animator Broadcast 24Bit Painting&Animation software.

So much about software for the Vivid24. There others companies too doing
software for it too I guess.


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From: jprad@faatcrl.faa.gov (Jack Radigan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: Move
Date: 23 Jan 1993 18:29:13 -0500
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eyvind@Lise.Unit.NO (Eyvind Bernhardsen) writes:

>It allows *any* characters EXCEPT the slash (obviously) and the double-quote. 
>CAN use question marks or hash signs (despite the fact that these are wildcard
>specifiers), and you can ALSO use spaces (although you need to put quotes arou
>the filenames for that).  I disapprove stongly of using spaces in filenames 

  C'mon folks, let's read our manuals, ok?

  The '"' can be used in a filename by escaping it with the '*' character, as
can any character that the shell is sensitive to.

  The '/' and ':' are the only characters you can't use since they are used as
part of a pathname specifier.

  -jack-
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From: torrie@cs.stanford.edu (Evan Torrie)
Subject: Re: A4000/EC030 confirmed
Originator: torrie@Xenon.Stanford.EDU
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 26 Jan 93 23:20:56 GMT

tmc@spartan.ac.BrockU.CA (Tim Ciceran) writes:

>In article <C1FGos.4uo@unccsun.uncc.edu> msmcknig@unccsun.uncc.edu
>(Michael S McKnight) writes:

>With an entry-level system like the A1200, every item is scrutinized in terms
>of consumer pricing and manufacturing costs, so using a EC020 chip is a
>reasonable compromise. As for the A4000, the only currently available model
>makes use of a full 68040, despite any misconceptions to the contrary.
>The decision to market an EC030 version is likely a measure to satisfy those
>that are midway between the A1200 and A4000 in their product demands. An
>additional 68030 version is slated to follow.

  And cynics would say that this was an example of Commodore "crippling"
their machines, and how horrible the world was where "marketing means
more than architecture and design".

  Or would they?

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From: bandy@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Mike Bandy)
Subject: Re: Slashes, dots, and quotes (was Re: Move)
Organization: JHU/Applied Physics Laboratory
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:01:12 GMT

nate@tucana.ualr.edu (Nathan Spillers) writes:

>bandy@netnews.jhuapl.edu (Mike Bandy) writes:
>: zarthac@bradley.edu (Matt Simmons) writes:
>: 
>: >Heikki T. Suopanki (suopanki@stekt5.oulu.fi) wrote:
>: 
>: >: Eh? Unix do not have separate "drives", everything is mounted under one root.
>: 
>: >Right, and thus, you don't have to change from drive to drive...
>: 
>: BZZZZT!  Unix partitions on a particular volume are mounted like that -- not
>: partitions from multiple volumes.  To cross the volume boundary you still 
>: need to specify its name, then you can work down it from the "/" directory.

>Whaa?  What are you talking about here?  Maybe I'm just misunderstanding
>you, but Unix combines all partitions or volumes into one continuous
>directory hierarchy (to the user).  So when the user issues a cd
>/usr/local/games, it goes to where those files are, regardless of what
>volume/drive/storage device those files actually "live" on.

>What did you mean by your post?  Was I just falling prey to a
>communication problem here, or did you mean something other than what I'm
>talking about?

Yes, of couse you're right.  After examining the 'df' command output
and playing around I stand corrected.  I went off half cocked - sorry.
What I was thinking off was the /dev/... aspect of the df output.  Each
volume is seperate, with its own file system.  They're not joined into
one giant volume, ala VMS's volume set.

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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: CBM Announces Price Cuts on A4000/A1200
Date: 27 Jan 1993 04:15:11 GMT
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In article <1993Jan27.020209.10879@sol.ctr.columbia.edu>, Matt Simmons (zarthac@bradley.edu) wrote:
: Oh yeah, there's such a lot of waste too....  I read somewhere (I can't 
: remember the exact source, tho I just looked in Rush's book & its not in there)
: that if you took all the waste from all the plants worldwide, and put them 
: on a football field, it'd make a 3ft layer.  This is all the waste from the 
: last 10-20 years....

A three foot deep swimming pool of toxicity ONLY the size of a football
field?  In 10-20 years?  That's NOTHING, you're right!  And in the HUGE
time this will take to become harmless, or even close, we'll have FILLED
that football field.  That would simply be a WONDROUS place to see the
Bengals and the 49ers play, wouldn't it?  Something you want to take your
children to see?  Not I.  By the time I have children, hopefully 20 years
from now or more, That football field will be more than 6 feet deep.  Why
more than 6?  Because the number of nuclear power plants are increasing,
that's why.  As nuclear power becomes more becoming to those in power,
the question of WHERE TO PUT IT ALL springs up yet again.  Bury it for a
few million years?  You think that's such a good idea?  Drop it into the
ocean in barrels, perhaps?

You read your books by Rush, and remember.  Just remember.  Unlike the
other eco-freaks in this group, this eco-freak doesn't think the
eco-freaks are going to win.  No matter how hard we push, our capitolist
society will push back, and we will have to sit back and watch.

Anyone got the address/phone # for Earth First?

Greg

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From: Paula_Lieberman@amicol.UUCP (Paula Lieberman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Re: RISC Amiga?
Distribution: world
Date: 27 Jan 93 17:03:53 EDT
Organization: Amiga Colony BBS

In a message dated Wed 21 Jan 93 22:58, Torrie@cs.stanford.edu (evan Torrie
wrote:

 TT> Message-ID: <torrie.727485924@Xenon.Stanford.EDU>
 TT> Date: 19 Jan 93 23:25:24 GMT

>always leveled even on price. And also Motorola knows that they have to
move
>quickly if they do not want to end like Zilog (remember the Z80?).

 TT>   Motorola's future in microprocessors for high-end computer systems
 TT> is NOT with the 680x0.

What is it in, that piece of vapor called a PowerPC chip, with vapor for
operating systems and vapor for native applications, vapor for installed
based, vapor for base of non-internal programmers, and vapor for backward
compatible with existing applications?!


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From: kpjeacle@maths.tcd.ie (Karl Jeacle)
Subject: Re: CU Amiga (was Re: amiga a1200.....
Organisation: Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:11:57 GMT

abs0@coos.dartmouth.edu (Kelvin Leung) writes:

>2).  Kindwords 3 is a scaled-down version of Wordsworth, but it is pretty
>good already... we don't hear too much of it because we are living in the
>States, and Wordsworth 2 is published by a British company.

Sorry, way out... Wordworth 2 is published by Digita International, and
has absolutely _nothing_ to do with Kindwords 3 (published by the Disc
Company). Most UK Amiga magazines rate Wordworth 2 quite a bit higher
than Final Copy II... apart from UK dictionary I see no reason why it
can't be bought direct from US. Digita can be reached via...
Tel: +44 395 270273, Fax: +44 395 268893.

Regards,
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