From: makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Newsgroups: misc.headlines,soc.misc,talk.politics.mideast,talk.politics.misc,alt.revisionism
Subject: Re: Want facts?  "WHO RUNS THE MEDIA?  The Alarming Facts"
Date: 12 Apr 92 07:15:10 GMT
Reply-To: makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ

In article <JIME.92Apr12012428@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:

# In article <1992Apr12.014433.29249@ennews.eas.asu.edu> makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (David Makowsky) writes:

# >   In article <JIME.92Apr10223708@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu> jime@bullwinkle.atc.ll.mit.edu (Jim Eggert x6127 g41) writes:

# >   # >   # The other 95% [of the Israeli partition 
# >   # >   # not purchased by the pre-1948 Zionists]
# >   # >   # was ceded to the nascent Israel by the UN and the UK, ...
# >   # >   # partly because the Zionist terrorists were killing and murdering
# >   # >   # Arabs, Brits, and a UN mediator.

# >   # >	   Not only was this not a reason, but for the most part it falls
# >   # >   flat on its face as a lie/untruth.

# >   # How so?  Do you mean to imply that the Zionist terrorism was
# >   # _completely_ ineffectual against the British?  Nonsense.

# >	   Zionist resistance played a part.  Zionist terrorism, for the most
# >   part (there were minor exceptions) was (as it still is now) a figment
# >   of some propagandists' imaginations.
 
# Make up your mind.  First it was not a reason at all, now it did play
# a part.
 
	Instead of telling others to make up their mind, why do not you
read.  The small amount of actual Jewish terrorism did not play any
role in the British leaving.  Legitimate Jewish resistance did.

# And your characterization of Zionist terrorism merely shows your
# ignorance.

	Nope, but some of what you characterize as Zionist teerrorism does
show your ignorance.

# You should read your history books about King David Hotel,

	Which was not a terrorist act.

# the assassinations of Lord Moyne, Count Bernadotte,

	I doubt that these acts played a significant role.

# and many
# significant Zionist terrorist actions in the 1929-1948 period.  Hardly
# minor exceptions.
 
	What is a minor exception are those actions taken by ZIonists
during that period that were terrorist actions.

# >   # >   Do you know what percentage of Israel was contained in the Sinai?

# >   # 0%.  The Sinai was never considered to be part of Israel by the world
# >   # community.  That was a trick question, funny huh.

# >	   What the world community considered it was irelevent.  How would
# >   you like it if the world community refused to recognize your property
# >   rights to your own home?  
 
# And here we see the image of arrogance.  World opinion be damned,

	Great way to respond.  You did not even address my point.

# Israel took the Sinai from Egypt, and that's it.  Luckily Begin was
# more flexible than you appear to be.

	Which was one of his few mistakes.

# Answer me this:  How many Jews
# lived in the Sinai in 1966?  Then tell me that it was the home of Israel.
 
	This is irelevent.  Israel payed for the Sinai with its blood in
defensive struggles.  And then gave it back.  This has happened more then
once, by the way.

# >   # >  ... the overwhelming majority
# >   # >   of the terrorism was (as it still is) commited by the Arabs against
# >   # >   the Jews.

# >   # Substantiate, please.

# >	   World events.
 
# Great quote.  I'll have to remember that catch-all reference when I
# write my next term paper.  See footnote 3.
# -----
# 3.  World events.
 
	Your the one that claims to have read a lot and to be well
informed.  For you, this should be sufficient.
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David Makowsky
makowsky@enuxha.eas.asu.edu
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