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From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Organization: Inland Sea
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 16:27:23 GMT

dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:

>If it *is* Desire trying to kill Destruction's friends, s/he's almost
>certainly breaking the Rules.  In fact, it's not even obvious that
>Destruction is allowed to kill.  (And if there is a prohibition, it
>would be a poor sophistry to forbid killing but allow dropping a
>wall or blowing up a building where the target just happens to be.)

Given what we've seen of Desire recently, perhaps it is becoming the
new Destruction?

Why does Delirium always create living things?  Perhaps we're looking
at the next step in her changing?  I have trouble coming up with a
"D" name, though.

Take a close look at the third panel of the pool.  Looks like Delirium
and Dream to me.
-- 
 "When Dexter's on the Internet, can Hell be far behind?"
		-- Steve Simmons, scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us
From: bn510@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matthew L. High)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: NHS #$ (color)
Date: 6 Oct 1992 10:52:37 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


If you don't like the color NHS's, Joshua, then don't buy 'em.

  It's that simple.

The latest issue of NHS (black and white, that is) has been finished 
  for over a month now - ready to go.  For some reason, Malibu
  has been sitting on it.

 - net.spy!  (bn510@cleveland.freenet.edu)
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From: Alexx@world.std.com (Alexx S Kay)
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
Keywords: Endless, animals, relations
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:04:41 GMT

rooney@cheshire.oxy.edu (Michael Sean Rooney) writes:

>	This topic was mentioned previously, but the latest issue
>adds to our tally of the Endless' animal companions. 

>	Dream                     ravens
>	Despair                   rats 
>	Destruction               dogs
	Destiny			"flappy things"

Alexx

Alexx@world.std.com
"Shoes are a conspiracy far subtler and further reaching than the CIA."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: cwelsh@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Craig Welsh  )
Subject: Re: Information and Rumors
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 17:49:23 GMT

In article <5OCT199213091789@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> sewon@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (WAYNE WONG) writes:
>MARVEL:
>- Marvel has compiled a "Death List" of 10 "Major Marvel characters" that 
>may be killed off.  No hints as to who is on the list.  I wonder if these 
>"deaths" will be as hyped up as the Superman fiasco.
They will be hyped up just as much and beyond the Superman thing. If
Marvel kills them (possibly) and if they are brought back (you have to
ask?). And for a new storyline, list the top ten marvel characters you
would like to see die. People with the Tony Stark phobia should take it
easy.  

>- A storyline has been proposed where a "Major Marvel Character" tests HIV 
>positive for the AIDS virus.  Again, no hints as to which character.  The 
>storyline is awaiting approval.
Not likely. They were squemish when they made Northstar gay and they
have done very little with his character since. Not that he (or she)
would have to be gay, but I doubt Marvel would do it.

>- Venom will be getting his own mini-series sometime in '93.
Who cares. Overrated and over used character.

>- Black Panter will also be getting a mini-series (or new series?).
Prize to the first person who can figure out what number series (or
mini-series) this will be for the Panther. Probably being done because
of the supposed movie.

>- Iron Fist will be getting another series.  The art will be by Jae Lee 
>and I think the writing will be by John Byrne.
Looking forwardto this. Could be quite interesting. I just hope there
aren't fifty different covers or to many gimics with it.

>- X-Men 2099 is in the works.  No other information about the project.
.........Words fail me at this point. When they do hit me it will
probably be AAAAAAAAARRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!


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From: luhmanjp@nxsci173a.mrs.umn.edu (Joe Luhman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: test-ignore
Keywords: testing
Date: 1 Oct 92 00:54:05 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota - Morris

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: pautler@ils.nwu.edu (David Pautler)
Subject: MISC: Endless poster on Roseanne 9/29
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:59:42 GMT

The subject line says it all.  When Roseanne went up to Darlene's
room to chastise her for allowing David to sleep over, we see an
Endless poster on the wall over her shoulder.  We knew Darlene and
David were collaborating on a comic and had been to a convention in
Chicago.  Now we know she's a Sandman fan, too.

BTW, there have been two posters so far, haven't there?  The Endless
poster is the second.  What did the other one look like?  (Or am
I dreaming?)

	-dp-
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From: djdaneh@pbhyc.PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes)
Subject: Re: What happens when a newsgroup dies?
Reply-To: djdaneh@PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes)
Organization: Pacific * Bell, San Ramon, CA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:41:41 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.231742.18716@thinkage.on.ca> dat@thinkage.on.ca (David Adrien Tanguay) writes:
>
>Did anybody ever write an epitaph for net.comics? Where's me Geritol...

Gimme a tablespoonful, too. . . But none seemed necessary at the time.  Old 
net.comics didn't die, it just underwent a name change.  Now, I suppose it could
be argued that rec.arts.comics isn't dying so much as being transmogrified, but 
such an argument would hold no water, at least with _this_ anchunt net.marrinur.

			Oh, we are the boys in the chorus,
			We hope you'll like our show.
			We know you're rooting for us,
			But now we have to go-ooo!


Dan'l Danehy-Oakes, Net.Roach
My opinions do NOT represent Pacific Bell,
Professional Development, or anyone else.
But I'm willing to share.
From: sherman@deimos.math.ucla.edu (William Sherman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Cerebus #162
Date: 3 Oct 92 23:10:21 GMT
Organization: The Island of Misfit Toys

In article <1992Oct2.215605.15725@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) writes:

>Notice Elrond's role in all this?  At least some of his pose as an
>ingenuous Good Old Boy is false.  When the main chance appears --
>here, at the ascension, at Petuniacon, we keep finding his eye fastened
>on it firmly.  Somehow, when fate is about to elect someone, he always
>manages to make himself one of the candidates.

*wince* That's "Elrod," Dani.  Tsk tsk tsk.  Elrond is the Tolkien 
character.

I agree fully with your evaluation of his character.  There are no flies 
on Elrod, no matter how much he prattles.

>Who's the old aardvark Cerebus flies past?  And was that Astoria still
>in chains?  I thought she was out getting spruced up for her meeting
>with Cirin.

The old aardvark was Cirin, I think.  And yes, that was Astoria.

>We still don't know how Pigts reproduce, but the way the use themselves
>up, it's a cinch they must have a way.  Were we told, before, about the
>giant-of-stone prophecy?  It certainly explains Bran MacMuffin's suicide.

No, we weren't told about it.  Whether you want to call this a hat trick
on Sim's part is up to you.

>Interesting editorial.  The language is so restrained that it's possible
>to overlook just how thoroughly Groth is being savaged.  Some interesting
>letters, too.  If there were more columns like this, and fewer page-long
>chain-of-consciousness pieces, I might get out of the "I hate Aardvark
>Column" club.

It's fun to read the Groth piece in the Comics Journal and then 
immediately read Sim's reply.  It's rather tragic that these two
end up smashing each other when the deplorable state of comics
readership is ostensibly the topic at hand.  They both have some
good points, but I think this deserves a separate article to 
discuss.

>And the Usenet Interview gets an honorable mention.

As well as my close personal friend Kate DeGroot, who is mentioned
in the Tour discussion on the inside front cover.  Whee!

>Quite an issue.

You left out the bittersweet one-page by Chris Aubry.  It's sketchy but
I found it deeply moving.
--
  Bill Sherman      S^1 `--> S^(2n+1) -->> CP^n     sherman@math.ucla.edu
 The only thing that is constant in the universe is change ... except when
 you need it for the bus.  -Yogi Havnagudtime Vishnuvahere (T. Kazurinsky)
From: jwlr@dali.cc.rochester.edu (James Willer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: UPC
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:47:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

klein@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein) writes:

>In article <BvDCq6.L0r@cda.mrs.umn.edu> dardiswa@cda.mrs.umn.edu (Wayne A. Dardis 1500099) writes:
>>Meaning no disrespect to Obscure Trivia Lad, but doesn't upc stand for
>>universal price code?

>Universal PRODUCT Code.  The first five #'s are the company number,
>the next five are the product number.  The price lists are in the
>scanner/register.

Close. Actually the Universal Product Code is the shorter version. (I
think it has 6 digits)  The 10-digit number is an adaption of the
EAC or European A(rticle ?) Code.

			James Willer
{the opinions above are probably NOT those of
 anyone at all}
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:56:43 EDT
From: Carlos Li <CARLOSLI@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: HELP, shops in Washington D.C.

Hi,

I know of a few comics shops in DC:
Another World. 1504 Wisconsin Av, NW (Georgetown). Entrance is on P St, actuall
y. IMHO, this is the best around here. Has a wide selection of comics, TPBs,
independents.
Big Planet Comics. 4865 Cordell Av, Bethesda (OK, so it's not actually in DC,
but close enough: Metro accessible).
Cosmic Comics. Belmont St, Adams Morgan. This one's new, just opened a few
weeks ago, they don't even take credit cards :-(

There are a bunch more out in the suburbs, but my comic needs are simple and
I'm too lazy to go too far.

Hope this helps.

Carlos.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: swindley@elec.uq.oz.au (Robert Swindley)
Subject: Australian comic prices
Keywords: australian, comic, prices
Organization: Prentice Centre, University of Queensland
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:45:16 GMT

  In the top left hand corner (where all good price
tags are placed) Marvel puts a little box saying

' US    $1.25     (Can $2.50)  '

                or whatever

Now in Australia (which is of course where I live,
a big high to everyone) that little white box has
the following

     '  AUS    $2.30  '

              or whatever depending on the price

   The question on everybody's lips  (ok really just
mine)  is 
   where was this comic printed??  Do marvel do a 
       special print run just for Australia ??
       Or do they think it's a foreign language
       comic, and print it along side all the ones
       done in Spanish ???

   would anyone have any qualms about buying a 
       comic printed in this way (if everything else
       about it was in nm condition)?


(p.s  This only applies to newstand comics.
     Direct sales comics in australia are air freighted
       in once a week)

Ta Much for the help

     Chengster   chengm@sun.mech.uq.oz.au
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From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: Grendel -- how many issues?
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 02:37:15 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

alecb@gacvx1.gac.edu:
>I was just wondering if someone could help me figure out how many
>issues of Grendel were originally published by Comico.  I know of the B&W 3
>issues, and have 1-40, but Overstreet lists issues 41-43.  

Issues after number 40 are currently being published by Dark Horse as
Grendel: War Child 1-10.  The first two are already out.
From: by712@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark E. Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Novice needs help in grading comics.
Date: 28 Sep 92 16:05:15 GMT
Reply-To: by712@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark E. Bradley)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu



I recently inherited a slew of old comics from my grandfather.  I buy comics to
read and keep, so I've never concerned myself with grading the condition of my
books or looking up their value in Overstreet or whatnot.  But a lot of these
old comics hold no interest for me while they might for someone else, so I
would like to sell them.  I've read the lists in r.a.c.marketplace and I would
like to know not just what the ratings stand for, (NM, VF, etc.) but how to
arrive at these ratings.  I want to be able to grade my comics fairly before
posting my own list.  So if an expert out there could give me some heuristics
for grading my collection, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks for your time.

Mark

-- 
Mark Bradley                 |  OH, BENB! SO MANY GORGEOUS BABES DOING THAT
by712@cleveland.freenet.edu  |  DOWNTOWN THING! REALLY GIVES YOU A BONER, HUH?
From: dpearson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (David Pearson)
Subject: Re: Batman: TAS (was: The Harvey Dent dilemma)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:00:17 GMT

tsm@access.digex.com (The Secret Man) writes:

>In general, for an animated program intended for kids, BATMAN: The Animated
>Series has been remarkably well done.  It's a strange mixture of the many
>interpretations of Batman;  it has had some things which were more than just
>satisfactory.  Their Mr. Freeze was wonderful.
                      ^^^^^^^^^^  
I never did get to see this episode because my local FOX station, in their 
infinite wisdom, decided to show a Cardinals game instead(those pinheads).
AAAARGH!

>Finally, the voices (and the people doing them) are also quite surprising.
>If I am to believe my eyes, Christopher Lloyd did Mr. Freeze (and it did in
>fact sound like Lloyd's voice, which was bugging me while I watched), and
>the Joker (in the episode with the garbage barge full of psychoactive fumes)
>was played by Mark Hamill (whose voice interpretation I didn't personally
>care for, but I was vastly surprised to discover that it was him).

I actually like what Mark Hamill is doing with the Joker.("I just love these new
zip-lock bags.  We wouldn't want our little rodent to suffocate.  I'll just 
 punch some air holes.")  I think that he makes the Joker seem pretty insane, 
which is good, because, well, he is.


******************************** BATMAN ***************************************

                           /\    /\_/\    /\            The Bat
                          /  \__/     \__/  \           The Cat          
                         (                   )        The Penguin  
                          \  /--\     /--\  /
                           \/    \   /    \/   
                                  \ /
                                   V

         David M. Pearson                      dpearson@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
         University of Illinois                PEARSON@vmd.cso.uiuc.edu
*******************************************************************************
From: 4mckenzie_m@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: The Savage Dragon #3...
Date: 5 Oct 92 23:28:08 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US



Well, here goes...
    Savage Dragon #2 rocks and rolls!! Art is still fantastic, writing is 
fantastic, and the Dragon still is kicking a**!! The one problem though...will 
he make it to #3? After all, Super Patriot really messes--whoops, I'm giving 
the story away!  Adios!
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 1 Oct 1992 09:24:09 CDT
From: <U16244@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: MISC: Endless poster on Roseanne 9/29

There also was a poster on Darlene's wall for Peter Canon, Thunderbolt, whose
legs were visible when she was talking to David about not sleeping with him.

>Sigh< Sure wish we could have gotten a look at the artwork they were
doing, though.

DPW
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (OtakuRoach)
Subject: Re: MISC: Endless poster on Roseanne 9/29
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:03:35 GMT

In article <1992Oct1.202911.21860@news2.cis.umn.edu>, lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
> 
> Don't you mean T-shirts? There's the Dream shirt (in Gaiman approved black)
> and there's the Death and Dream shirt in grayish white.

Huh?  [looks down at the shirt covering his nascient paunch]
Nope, it's definitely white.  You must have a dirty shirt.  :-)

> Let's see, time for a Sandshit [tm] checklist:
> 2. T-shirt, Dream and Death (Dringenberg art?)

No.  Exactly the same art as poster 1 ("What would you think about life...")

[Yes, I'm wearing my Sandman t-shirt at work.  You have a problem with that?]
-- 
			    E n r i q u e  C o n t y
			The Incredible Man-with-no-Life
			      jester@ihlpl.att.com
		    Disclaimer: You're not dealing with AT&T
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: cat@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Felix Tsai)
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Annotation 31 Revised
Keywords: sandman annotation
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 01:36:35 GMT

What's with this annotation?  Can someone explain this to me or is everyone as
lost as I am?

Thanks in advance.  No flames please.

Felix
cat@casbah.acns.nwu.edu

Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: kogutt@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (SCAVENGER)
Subject: Superman #73
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 04:29:44 GMT

possible spoilers involving the rebirth of Superman















You notice how it was played up that the Linear Men could bring people back from
the dead.  Hmmmm, you know is it funny how this should come up right when Supes
is about to die.  Hmmmm.

----SCAVENGER

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           isn't it?                            |      (Internet/Usenet)
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Date: Sun,  4 Oct 1992 14:57:46 -0400 
From: "Andrew C. Plotkin" <ap1i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Sandman #43
	<1992Oct4.015708.5992@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>
	<AenaES200WAjEIrvBR@andrew.cmu.edu>

Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.misc: 3-Oct-92 Re: Sandman #43 Jay
Laefer@andrew.cmu.ed (395)

> I was rereading the scene that takes place and I noticed that the
> child's mother thought that *both* Morpheus and Delirium were
> familiar.  Of course, Morpheus should be familiar to everyone
> (including the flight attendant).  The only reason I can spot for
> Delirium being familiar to the woman would be her reference to "doing
> a lot of coke".

Actually, that whole long babbling speech (by the mother) reminded me
strongly of Delerium herself. I got the impression that while Dream was
talking with the daughter, Delerium was "talking" with the mother.

--Z

"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: jonal@dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD)
Subject: Re: Australian comic prices
Keywords: australian, comic, prices
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 11:19:38 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.181319.11033@unixg.ubc.ca> jcomeau@nixg.ubc.ca (Joe 
Comeau) writes:
>In article <swindley.718004716@s1.elec.uq.oz.au> swindley@
elec.uq.oz.au (Robert Swindley) writes:>>  In the top left hand corner (
where all good price>>tags are placed) Marvel puts a little box saying
>>
>>' US    $1.25     (Can $2.50)  '
>>
>>                or whatever
>>
>>Now in Australia (which is of course where I live,
>>a big high to everyone) that little white box has
>>the following
>>
>>     '  AUS    $2.30  '
>>
>>              or whatever depending on the price
>>
>>   The question on everybody's lips  (ok really just
>>mine)  is 
>>   where was this comic printed??  Do marvel do a 
>>       special print run just for Australia ??
>>       Or do they think it's a foreign language
>>       comic, and print it along side all the ones
>>       done in Spanish ???
>>
>>   would anyone have any qualms about buying a 
>>       comic printed in this way (if everything else
>>       about it was in nm condition)?
>>
>>
>>(p.s  This only applies to newstand comics.
>>     Direct sales comics in australia are air freighted
>>       in once a week)
>>
>>Ta Much for the help
>>
>>     Chengster   chengm@sun.mech.uq.oz.au
>
>
>I'm from Canada, and I wouldn't buy a comic for collecting purposes that had
>the Aus $  instead of teh US/Can one.  This is obviously a different printing
>and I am curious where it is printed.  Most books are printed in Canada,
>shipped to the US and then shipped back to Canada.  Kind of stupid eh? 

I think it's the same printing, albeit with a different print run of the 
cover. Remember the 70's when the comics shipped to Britain had pence prices 
instead of cents? Later on when comic speciality shopa and the Direct market 
appeared they changed the boxes to show both prices like they do today. I 
don't know why Marvel is printing a aussie version of the cover instead of 
just adding AU$ to the price box. Space limits??

Anyhow, I wouldn't have any qualms about buying those versions for 
collecting. I've already got some British 70's issues in my collection and 
as long as the contents are the same, I'm happy. And, of course, if you are 
a hardcore collector you could always consider the fact that the aussie 
cover has a smaller print run than the ordinary one. Kind of like those X-
Force #1's (now I have to wash my mouth...) which had an inverted UPC box. 
So, buy those aussie mags at top $$ and sell them to the fanboys...:-))

Nomad

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 23:36:27 -0400 
From: "Andrew C. Plotkin" <ap1i+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: SANDMAN: Annotation 31 Revised


Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.comics.info: 28-Sep-92 SANDMAN:
Annotation 31 Revised Inherit the Elmo@fnalo.f (29693)

> Page 21 panel 5: 
> 	"Get down and lick, Pain.": Probably a reference to bootlicking; may
> also refer to the licking of wounds.

Another, ah, possibility comes to mind. This is Desire we're talking
about, remember.

--Z

"And Aholibamah bare Jeush, and Jaalam, and Korah: these were the borogoves..."