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From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Remember Y&T?
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:55:57 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Aug25.162215.1@pomona.claremont.edu> greg@pomona.claremont.edu (Tigger) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.145612.27328@walter.cray.com>, jal@romulus.cray.com (Jim Lindberg) writes:
>>
>> My one friend wants to know what ever happened to Y&T.
>
>Yeah, I remeber them well.  They were a great band for most of their
>career.  Leonard Haze, who was the drummer and founded the band along
>with Dave Meniketti (sp?), left back in '88 or so.  The rest of the
>band carried on for another album or three, and then finally broke up
>after a farewell club tour which I am still kicking myself for missing.
>Fortunately they recorded a number of shows on that tour, which
>resulted in the excellant posthumous release, _Yesterday & Today Live_.
>(For those who don't know, Yesterday & Today was the original name of
>the band, and the obvious genesis of the shortened Y&T.)
>
>I had the opportunity to see Y&T numerous times, and they were never
>less than great, even when touring in support of of one of their later,
>not-so-hot albums.  _Yesterday & Today Live_ is a definite must-buy for
>any Y&T fan, and is a fitting wrapup to a band whose career lasted over
>fifteen years.
>
>If anyone has any current information about the former members of Y&T,
>especially Dave Meniketti, please post.  I really liked his voice and
>guitar playing, and would love to hear more music from him one of these
>days.

  Y&T are still around, back from their farewell tour (just like The Who :-)

  They just recently played the Santa Clara county fair locally here.

  A good band that was never marketed well...

  Doug
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From: Don Becker <grendel@jaflrn.UUCP>
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Axl's Departure!
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 22:11:50 EDT
Organization: The Wizzard's Cave, East Meadow, NY

hopkins@agora.rain.com (Scott Hopkins) writes:

> 	Well, I just read an article that discussed the longevity of Axl &
> company.  It seems Axl is unhappy with his bandmates, and there is has been
> a great deal of strife within the group.  Axl is currently looking for a
> film project to make his acting debut, and will begin recording a solo
> project after the current tour is over.
> 	Can this mean the END of GUNS'N'ROSES!
> 
 
I hope so. It'd serve Axl right for the way he's treated his fans (which
seem to be dwindling as of late) to have his life's work blow up in his
face.
 
> 	So out of Guns we might get 4-5 new bands!  But, we lose
> Guns'N'Roses.  :<
 
Although I'd prefer to see all 6 of them die in a fiery bus crash outside
Albequerque, I'm anxious to hear Izzy's solo stuff. GNR just didn't seem
to be worth listening to w/o Izzy, especially since he wrote the better
half of hte Use Your Illusion set (UYI I). According to the little blurb
on MTV, it sounds like Rolling Stones straightforward rock, not like GNR's
self-aggrandizing pompous crap.
 
--Don
From: turner5427@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: CD's and Tapes 4sale!
Date: 1 Sep 92 12:39:55 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

>>   Am I to assume the other two (used) CD's are also Columbia House
>>editions?  You probably should make this fact explicit, since these
>>versions (music club editions) are generally worthless as far as
>>re-sale value goes.  The Record Exchange (a local record store that
>>buys/sells new and used records) explicitly states that they will NOT
>>buy music-club copies ('cause that's apparently just what they are...
>>copies made by the clubs).
>>   If anyone out there (surely...) knows the specifics of music-clubs'
>>method of producing these albums (legality, who makes the copies, etc.),
>>I would certainly like to know.  It's extremely bothersome to always
>>see that little line 'Manufactured by Columbia House under license' (or
>>whatever club it may be) on these things.  It seems to me that the clubs
>>pay a fee to be able to reproduce (using their own methods, it seems) the
>>albums they contract (or perhaps they buy the rights to all artists under
>>a particular label).  
>>   All I know is, the record stores see that little message 'Manufactured
>>by...' as a stigma, and will not touch it if they look close enough to
>>catch it.
>>   Later,
>>   Smegma
> 
> At the stores I go to, they no longer care about record club CD's. I pointed
> it out to one several times on CD's I was selling. They told me that they
> considered a CD a CD. They don't buy Record club tapes or albums though.
> But thats around here <Twin Cities>'
> 
> 					--Judex--

How much do you guys get for used CD's anyway?  We have a CD exchange here in
Cedar Falls (University of Northern Iowa; you know, the place where Julia
Roberts ended up in Sleeping With The Enemy) and we only get $5 for a CD in
perfect condition.

tt..

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From: dxk21@po.cwru.edu (Dave K. - Mr. Mavis)
Subject: Re: Remember Y&T?
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 21:46:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.145612.27328@walter.cray.com> jal@romulus.cray.com (Jim Lindberg) writes:

>My one friend wants to know what ever happened to Y&T.
>Thanks.

   Basically they just ended everything and broke up.  As a last deal
for their fans they put out a live album.  For anyone that has never 
heard of them that likes to listen to the more "rock n roll" side of
metal every now and then, you should definately check them out.  Their
album "Ten" (came long before pearl jam's) is really hot.  It just shows
you how much of what becomes big has to do with promotion and blatent
commercialism.  They had much radio material that sat idle while 
many crappy bands got the hell played out of their boring records....
From: ej0i+@andrew.cmu.edu (Eric Scott Jefferson)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Ozzy Tour
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:53:34 GMT
Organization: Senior, Biology, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Ozzy is coming to Pittsburgh Monday (Labor day) with Motorhead and Ugly
Kid Joe. Has anybody seen him this summer? If so could you tell me what
his set list is, how the concert was etc. And how about Motorhead's new
album March or Die how is that?
Thanks in advance.


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From: jal@romulus.cray.com (Jim Lindberg)
Subject: Remember Y&T?
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:56:12 CDT

My one friend wants to know what ever happened to Y&T.
Thanks.

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    Jim Lindberg                     |  They laughed when I said that
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    Chippewa Falls, WI  54729        |  Well they aren't laughing now.
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From: azrael@sage.cc.purdue.edu (AZRAEL-The Angel of Death)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal
Subject: Re: Suaron
Date: 2 Sep 92 14:58:47 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <92243.20585932GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> 32GCHRG@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU writes:
>I thought he was dead...I hope so because he has got to
>be the biggest waste of fuckin   time Ive ever seen.
>If Danzig would kick-off too we'd be all set.
>                  Doc Holiday

    SOS-MAYDAY-SOS . . . - - - . . .,

    Anyone out there know where Suaron is at, we need
    him to balance out the pussy extreme that Doc represents.
    Perhaps we can train maple to be eloquent and amusing...
    nah, not much chance of that happening.

 
    SUARON WHERE ARE YOU?
 
                          AZRAEL
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Dream Theatre/John Arch/Jag Panzer
Organization: none
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 17:30:57 GMT

In article <jonal.48@dhhalden.no> jonal@dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD) writes:
>In article <1992Aug25.150741.24749@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>
>>In article <g+angh=.borella@netcom.com> borella@netcom.com (Mike Borella) writes:
>>>In article <1992Aug24.192957.16131@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>>On an unrelated note, Does anyone remember Jag Panzer?
>
>>                                       --Judex--
>
>Yup, great band. I never got any of their records, but got a demo from them 
>when I was doing a fanzine back in the Dark Age of HM...
>
>Nomad
>
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Hmmm, I never heard any demos. By chance, is this the stuff that showed up on  
the 4-song EP? "When The Metal Melts The Ice" is the tune that I remember best.
I have the EP and Their first album. Did they ever release the 2nd?
And where, oh where, has Harry Cronklin/The Tyrant gone? I heard he was with
a couple of bands, Riot among them, but never anything too solid. 
Anybody got any info?
Thanks in Advance!

					--Judex--

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From: smiller@bgsu.edu (scott miller)
Subject: Lyrics
Organization: Bowling Green State Univ.
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:37:05 GMT

Hello, everyone, I'm really, really sorry if this is a FAQ,
but does anyone know of any ftp sites which distribute lyrics?
If you do I would be very grateful if I received an e-mail,
directing me to one.

Thank you,
Scott

Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: yjossa@mathlab.mathlab.sunysb.edu (yuri jossa)
Subject: Re: Dream Theatre
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook, Dept. of Math
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 05:31:52 GMT
X-Posted-From: mathlab-gw.pi.sunysb.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Aug24.192957.16131@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>After reading all the posting about "Images and Words", I finally picked it up.
>Very impressive! I play it constantly. 
>

indeed!

>Some questions-
>Do they have another album? I would think that they do, from what I have read,
>but no one gives a title. 
>

When dream & day unite 1989 mechanic records
BMG compact disc club used to carry it
Get it! IMHO is better than "images.." specially the former vocalist.

>I was really happy to finally run across John Arch's name again. They thank
>him <apparetnly as a past vocallist> in the liner notes. Arch is one of my
>favorite Vocallists, and I found it hard to believe that he just vanished
>off the face of the planet after leaving Fates Warning. Is there any 
>tapes or anything of him singing with Dream Theatre? I MUST HAVE THE

I don't think they ever played...
M!
>
>John Petrucci's name seems familiar. Was he playing with someone else? 

NOPE.
I am in long island NY where the band is from.. the used to be
called MAJESTY a couple of yrs ago.

>Who?
>
>Thanks for steering me to this band, folks.                           
>
>					--Judex--
>
You're welcome  --IGOR IJHKJHKJGKJFHKJFHFKJHKJ etc. etc.

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From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Re: Living Colour/King's X
Keywords: Pinnick, Gaskill, Tabor, Glover, Reid, Calhoun, Tackhead.
Organization: none
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 16:11:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.062633.4702@ctr.columbia.edu> yjossa@mathlab.mathlab.sunysb.edu (yuri jossa) writes:
>In article <16604@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Under The Gun Huckabay) writes:
>>I have just heard someone mention that Living Colour will be touring
>>for a new CD out soon, and will be double-billing with King's X,
>>probably in 1200-1500 seat venues.
>>
>>Can anyone verify this?  Comment on it?  I'm DYING to see King's X
>>again, this time hopefully with a healthy Doug, and considering these
>>are my two favorite bands, I obviously would be quite interested.
>>
>>Pat?  You out there? Can you confirm this?  Hopefully?
>>
>>(33)
>>
>>-- 
>tackhead?? ha ha you mean Doug Wimbish?
>	 heard he is really good bassist.
>

I can confirm the fact that Doug Wimbish is an awesome bassist. Vernon will
finally have a bassist worthy of tag teaming with him, heh. Tackhead is
one of a number of related bands that have formed around producer
Adrian Sherwood, and Doug Wimbish, Skip Mcdonald, and Keith Leblanc.
They have recorded, with different vocallists and lineups, as 
Maffia, Gary Clail's Tackhead Soundsystem, Gary Clail's On-U Sound
System, Tackhead, Nine Inch Nails, and I'm sure a few more. Sherwood is 
the worlds most Savage mixmaster, blending hard echo, feedback, and sheer
noise into the fray. Mcdonald is a good guitarist, and LeBlanc is
a fine Drummer/percussionist, but Wimbish is usually the Star. He is an
awesome traditional bassist, with a great feel for a groove. On top
of the standard Bass attack, he uses Sampling, and effects to expand
his range. Amazing.
For the curious, I recommend either "Gary Clails Tackhead Sound System", or
Mark Stewart and Maffia's "As The Venneer Of Democracy Starts To Fade" to hear
the more savage, experimental side. Tackhead's "Strange Things" is 
practically a sellout by comparison. It sounds sorta like a funkier 
Living Color, with Odd but effective production. Kinda poppy, but the cover
of "Super Stupid" <Funkadelic> is a real screamer. It should be interesting
to hear him in Living Color. <Sherwood did NOT produce "STrange Things">
<I should point out that only Sherwood and Leblanc were involved in the
recording of Nine Inch Nails "Pretty Hate Machine", but Tackhead was
basically Trent Reznors backup band for touring. Sherwood also produced
Ministry, in their more dance oriented days. "Over The Shoulder", only 
track I have, is interesting, but I was hoping for a noisier mix. Ah
well. As always, everything is IMHO>

					--Judex--
From: hise@iastate.edu (Allan R Hise)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Re: Lyrics
Date: 2 Sep 92 20:51:43 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

In <0vknz5j@lynx.unm.edu> arny@vesta.unm.edu (L Alan Dye) writes:

>In article <BtwrHy.1E6@andy.bgsu.edu>, smiller@bgsu.edu (scott miller) writes:
>> Hello, everyone, I'm really, really sorry if this is a FAQ,
>> but does anyone know of any ftp sites which distribute lyrics?
>> If you do I would be very grateful if I received an e-mail,
>> directing me to one.
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> Scott
>> 
>If anyone knows of any new lyrics ftp sites, why not just post it to the whole newsgroup?! Just a thought...

New?  I dunno about NEW ones.  The one I know about  is
cs.uwp.edu   
I think the directory is /pub/music/lyircs


>Arny


OB a.rnr.m.p:  Anyone out there ever hear of the band Mol Triffid?  They 
originally came from Ann Arbor, Mich (I believe) and I think they are now 
hanging out in California somewhere.  Their only CD I know of is "Touch the
Monkey", but they have a few good 45's.  Anyone else hear of them.
I'm curious as to what people think of them.  Personally I think they are
great.

Allan
hise@iastate.edu
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From: arny@vesta.unm.edu (L Alan Dye)
Subject: Re: Lyrics
Date: Wed, 02 Sep 92 17:11:42 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <BtwrHy.1E6@andy.bgsu.edu>, smiller@bgsu.edu (scott miller) writes:
> Hello, everyone, I'm really, really sorry if this is a FAQ,
> but does anyone know of any ftp sites which distribute lyrics?
> If you do I would be very grateful if I received an e-mail,
> directing me to one.
> 
> Thank you,
> Scott
> 
If anyone knows of any new lyrics ftp sites, why not just post it to the whole newsgroup?! Just a thought...

Arny
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: jonal@dhhalden.no (JON ARVID LOVSTAD)
Subject: Re: Dream Theatre/John Arch/Jag Panzer
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 06:29:50 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.150741.24749@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:

>In article <g+angh=.borella@netcom.com> borella@netcom.com (Mike Borella) writes:
>>In article <1992Aug24.192957.16131@news2.cis.umn.edu> donnell@manowar.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous) writes:
>>>Do they have another album? I would think that they do, from what I have read,
>>>but no one gives a title. 
>>>
>>
>>When Dream and Day Unite is out of print.  Try used shops.
>>
>>>him <apparetnly as a past vocallist> in the liner notes. Arch is one of my
>>>favorite Vocallists, and I found it hard to believe that he just vanished
>>>off the face of the planet after leaving Fates Warning. Is there any 
>>>tapes or anything of him singing with Dream Theatre? I MUST HAVE THEM!
>>
>>Yes, tapes do exist.  He tried out for them a couple years back but they parted company rather quickly.
>>
>>

>Thanks for the info. I will have to go on the hunt for those tapes. I'll take
>any tapes of John Arch singing with damn near anybody!

>On an unrelated note, Does anyone remember Jag Panzer?

>                                       --Judex--

Yup, great band. I never got any of their records, but got a demo from them 
when I was doing a fanzine back in the Dark Age of HM...

Nomad

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Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
From: yjossa@mathlab.mathlab.sunysb.edu (yuri jossa)
Subject: Re: Living Colour/King's X
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook, Dept. of Math
Keywords: Pinnick, Gaskill, Tabor, Glover, Reid, Calhoun, Tackhead.
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 06:26:33 GMT
X-Posted-From: mathlab-gw.pi.sunysb.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <16604@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu> zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Under The Gun Huckabay) writes:
>I have just heard someone mention that Living Colour will be touring
>for a new CD out soon, and will be double-billing with King's X,
>probably in 1200-1500 seat venues.
>
>Can anyone verify this?  Comment on it?  I'm DYING to see King's X
>again, this time hopefully with a healthy Doug, and considering these
>are my two favorite bands, I obviously would be quite interested.
>
>Pat?  You out there? Can you confirm this?  Hopefully?
>
>(33)
>
>-- 
tackhead?? ha ha you mean Doug Wimbish?
	 heard he is really good bassist.
From: zuhars@madrone.eecs.ucdavis.edu (Gary Under The Gun Huckabay)
Newsgroups: alt.rock-n-roll.metal.progressive
Subject: Living Colour/King's X
Summary: Tour in late fall?
Keywords: Pinnick, Gaskill, Tabor, Glover, Reid, Calhoun, Tackhead.
Date: 3 Sep 92 21:15:12 GMT
Organization: Kevlar Bleacher Concessions, Ltd. (Arlington Branch)

I have just heard someone mention that Living Colour will be touring
for a new CD out soon, and will be double-billing with King's X,
probably in 1200-1500 seat venues.

Can anyone verify this?  Comment on it?  I'm DYING to see King's X
again, this time hopefully with a healthy Doug, and considering these
are my two favorite bands, I obviously would be quite interested.

Pat?  You out there? Can you confirm this?  Hopefully?

(33)

-- 
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From: mishae@niksula.hut.fi (Magic Mike)
Subject: Re: Questions
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Distribution: alt
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:02:40

In article <MEGA.92Aug31120828@juhani.it.lut.fi> mega@lut.fi (Mega the
Root of All Evil) writes:

>    I have two questions...
>           ^^^
>    1) Who was the drummer in Slayer`s gig in Monsters of rock this year ?
>    ^^
>    2) Faith No More's supporting act in their european tour ?
>    ^^
>    3) Is Paradise Lost touring in europe at this autumn and who is their
>    ^^ supporting act ?
>
>    I "If every fourth animal in the world is a beetle,           I
>    I  perhaps every fourth person is a dumb fuck." - NoMeansNo - I         
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

 You don't say...! :-)
--
Cheers,

            Misha

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From: donnell@shark.micro.umn.edu (Your Heinous)
Subject: Mordred <mpls.>
Organization: none
Date: Sun, 30 Aug 1992 17:10:14 GMT

Just got back from a party. I used to hang with a pretty good band that went
nowhere, called "Metalstorm" . I always liked them and they had two really
good musicians on guitar and drums. After about 5 years, Matt Nielson <guitar>
and Mike Fust <drums, and now Vocals> have put out a tape.
I won't oversell it. The production is about what to expect from a cassette
4-track in their basement. But, these guys CAN play! 
Under the name Mordred, <not too original, we know> they recorded 6 originals
and called it "Battle Hymns". It's straight up Sword Metal with early
Speedmetal influences. Mike is not too bad on the vocals, but his 
drumming is intense! And Matt is one hot guitarist. the performances are
energetic, and focused, but I really think it sounds like a BAND, and not
a studio project. If you crank it, it sounds uncannily like they are in
your living room! This bodes very well for their future, and I eagerly
await the day they can afford real studio time.

Interested parties can send $5.00 to:

Matt Nielson
3723 Lyndale Ave. N
Mpls., Mn. 55412

I'm sure they will even sign it if you ask them. This is their hobby, but they
are quite sincere, and the tape is pretty good. Enjoy...

					--Judex--

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