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From: Malachi.Robertson@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Malachi Robertson)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,soc.motss,rec.games.frp,alt.atheism,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Survey
Date: 21 Aug 92 01:59:07 GMT
Distribution: talk.religion.misc
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <920818174711_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)
>
In some sense I won't go anywhere.  The physical elements that make up my
body will disintegrate and the breath of life that God gave me will return
to Him.  I believe I am "dust" and "the breath of life" and when these
separate then I in some sense cease to exist.  This is a limited
experience, however, for I will arise in one of two resurrections:  the
one of righteousness or the one of unrighteousness.  I prefer the latter. :)

>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?
>
No I wouldn't.  No one goes to heaven or hell when they die.  They await
one of the resurrections.

>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?
>
Taking this completely hypothetically given what I just said...  I guess I
would say "Lord, remember your grace, your just judgements, and your
promises.  Apply all these to the life I have lived, then decide whether
to have me as a participant in your kingdom.  Asking why you should let me
in is not a question I can answer.  Alone I am unrighteous and condemned
by the moral order you set up.  I feel I have lived by the truth received
from you, and accepted by faith your grace; however, in the end you are
the perfect judge who knows whether this is so.  In the end you are the
one to decide who will enter your kingdom.  I trust in your judgements and
I love you.  I leave it to you to decide the "why" and the "if" of whether
I should be an inhabitant of your kingdom."  This is a wordy, but I think
it gets my feelings on the matter across.

>What is my "agenda" for asking these questions?  Just curious.
>
>Bye,
>CDC

"Malachi" Ian Robertson Brown

"LORD, thou hast examined me and knowest me."  Ps. 139:1
"Great and marvellous are thy deeds, O Lord God, sovereign over all; just
and true are thy ways, thou king of the ages.  Who shall not revere thee,
Lord, and do homage to thy name?  For thou alone art holy.  All nations
shall come and worship in thy presence, for thy just dealings stand
revealed." Rev. 15:3,4 
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From: norris@infonode.ingr.com (Jeff Norris)
Subject: Re: Survey
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:17:13 GMT

adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
>70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
>>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)
>'Sheol'...the place of the dead....
>>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?
>Nope...not until the return of Jesus Christ...
>>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>>heaven?" What would you say?
>I would say "You shouldn't".  Have mercy on me a sinner.
> -Steve
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>                        -------------------
>     adams@spss.com                           Phone: (312) 329-3522
>     Steve Adams                              Fax:   (312) 329-3558

Where the *HELL* did _this_ come from?

-jeff
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: bzthomps@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Zac Thompson)
Subject: Re: Bombs and Evil
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:19:54 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.073841.4637@eskimo.celestial.com>, cerebrus@eskimo.celestial.com (Dan Scherck) writes:
> Well, as for the bombs, mentioned by optical@buscard I have several
> files detailing the creation of said devices, as do most of the people
> in the net. Truth is, you would be much better off looking around your
> hometown for said files, rather than poking in the net. 
>  As for Evil? Does anyone have a really good definition of it? I have
> a pssing one, if you care to read it...
> 
>      EVIL: Evil is an act or actions taken by an intelligent being 
> against another living being which is contrary to the survival of
> the target race, whether immediately or in the future. Such an act
> is evil to the target and all groups and sub-groups to which said
> target belongs.
> 
> hows that? Anyone else care to comment?

Well, if you believe that then you probably think abortion is evil...
Careful...
I know evil.
EVIL: most like me

	Zac
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From: jchien@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jennifer Crystal Fang-Chien)
Subject: Re: Survey
Organization: The Land of Earthquakes (Southern Cal)
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 02:52:26 GMT


>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)

	Nowhere.  I wouldn't be able to "go" somewhere after I were dead.
If the question is "What will happen to me physically and/or otherwise?"
that would be obvious.

>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?

	Irrelevant.

>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?

	Actually, I found this an interesting scenario.  It would
prove to me that "God" is not really a God, because in asking this
question he is not being an all-perfect, all-knowing entity.  Either
that, or my last delusions.
	

Jennifer

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From: bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris)
Subject: Re: Where it came from (was Re: Survey)
Organization: Motorola, CCR&D, CORP, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:40:39 GMT

In article <z+!n1_d.jfh@netcom.com> jfh@netcom.com (Jack Hamilton) writes:
)In article <920818174711_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 
)
)>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)
)
)Just want to point out something about this posting.  It didn't come from
)Usenet.  It was sent from CompuServe using the mail-to-news gateway at
)Berkeley.  Unless they have another account somewhere, they won't even see
)any followups. 

My guess is that it's unlikely to have come from Compuserve, (it's
probably a forgery), but it probably did come from the mail-to-news
gateway at Berkeley.

Some poor victim at Compuserve is probably getting flooded with letters
right now :-(.

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From: schumach@convex.com (Richard A. Schumacher)
Subject: Re: Survey
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 00:06:15 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

Where will I go? I would go to Paradise, but I think that I shall
go nowhere. Where does the light go when the candle is blown out?

(As long as I don't go to the place where people who post
inappropriately go, I shall be happy.)
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From: ericg@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Eric Chris Garrison)
Subject: Re: Survey
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:53:52 GMT

In article <920818174611_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)

I dunno.  Wherever I go, I guess, if anywhere.  I hope I like it there. 

>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?

I already told you I don't know.  Is this a choice matter?  What are
my other options?  

>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?

"Why not?"

Though I think God (if there is one (I hope so)) would already have
decided such a thing and would not be asking interview questions.

>What is my "agenda" for asking these questions?  Just curious.

Seems awfully non-game related.  This is the fantasy roleplaying game
group, not talk.religion or whatever.  Personally, I answered them
as an excersise in roleplaying.  :-)

Eric

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From: 8918877t@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: Bombs and Evil
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:06:24 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia

>> 
>>      EVIL: Evil is an act or actions taken by an intelligent being 
>> against another living being which is contrary to the survival of
>> the target race, whether immediately or in the future. Such an act
>> is evil to the target and all groups and sub-groups to which said
>> target belongs.
>> 
>> hows that? Anyone else care to comment?

No good.  You can be evil without eliminating a 'target race'.
Rape, for example, in most cases does not end up death.
Neither does ruining someone's mental well being with an endless
	series of phone calls, offensive mail, and slogans
	painted over their family car.		
	(personally, in Australia there is a glue called 'loctite'
	which glues bricks really well to the roofs of cars, there
	is no way that brick will come off without ruining the paint).

Some of the best discussions I have seen about what consitutes evil
has been in rec.games.frp.dnd [though not at the moment].
--


==================================================
Real fear is a stone deep down within your
chest - that is all it is - nothing more.

                --==THE TERRORIST==--
                8918877t@unisa.edu.au
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From: sallyb@qiclab.scn.rain.com (Sally Bowley)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,soc.motss,rec.games.frp,alt.atheism,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Survey
Date: 19 Aug 92 06:29:10 GMT
Article-I.D.: qiclab.1992Aug19.062910.22406
Organization: SCN Research/Qic Laboratories of Tigard, Oregon.

In article <920818174611_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)

into the next body on the list

>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?

if heaven is the next body on the list, then yes. 
Interrupt
>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?

i don't believe in such a god, but just to play along: "not interested
in getting into your place, sport - just point me in the direction of
the next body". 

life's too short for just one body.......
sally

>What is my "agenda" for asking these questions?  Just curious.
>
>Bye,
>CDC
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: cerebrus@eskimo.celestial.com (Dan Scherck)
Subject: Re: Bombs and Evil
Organization: -> ESKIMO NORTH (206) For-Ever <-
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 04:40:41 GMT

avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee) writes:
> >>      EVIL: Evil is an act or actions taken by an intelligent being 
>                                                     ^^^^^^^^^^^
> >> against another living being which is contrary to the survival of
>                    ^^^^^^
> >> the target race, whether immediately or in the future. Such an act
> >> is evil to the target and all groups and sub-groups to which said
> >> target belongs.
> >>
> >> hows that? Anyone else care to comment?
> 
> so would you consider an intelligent man cutting down a living tree
> for fire wood evil?
> 
>             ___ __    _ ______  __
>            /   || |  / /| || | / /
>           / /| || | / / | || |/ /
>          / / | || |/ /  | || |\ \
>         /_/  |_||___/   |_||_| \_\
>     @icase.edu
> -----------------------------------------------
> |"Only the insane have strength to prosper.   |
> | Only those that prosper judge what is sane."|
> -----------------------------------------------
Only from the perspective of the tree. 
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From: fkilpatr@afit.af.mil (Freeman A. Kilpatrick)
Subject: Re: Survey
Organization: Air Force Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 20:19:06 GMT

trost@romulus.reed.edu (Bill Trost) writes:

>In article <920818174611_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:

>   If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?

>But I'm already *in* heaven -- I use emacs!  I use it for my mail, I
>use to to read news, I use it for *everything*!

Wow, I use emacs, too.  I am *almost* in heaven, because I use it for everything
but reading news.  How do you do that?


(Just evilly getting off the subject.. :)  But I really do want to know)


ak


-- 
Alex Kilpatrick  fkilpatr@afit.af.mil  
"Where the ENIAC is equipped with 18,000 vacuum tubes and weighs 30 tons, computers in the future may have only 1,000 vacuum tubes and weigh only 1 1/2 tons." 
---Popular Mechanics, March 1949
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From: pharvey@mipos3.intel.com (Paul Harvey)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage
Subject: Re: Survey
Keywords: Follow me and be free!
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:20:54 GMT
Organization: I am that I am

In article <920818174711_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 
70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)

I will not die as punishment for mine or anyone else's supposed sins. I will
die so that the children can have their life. I will die so that the cycles
continue. It is up to the children to decide where I will go when I die. They
will be the judge of my impact, the judge of the marks I leave on the rice
paper. When I die, I will return all that I have consumed to the new
consumers, I will give my life so that new life may be created. I give my
life to the new kids on the block, but this is the heroic deed we all get to
play part in. It is our one chance to prove that giving is a noble deed. You
can take back all the things you give, but you can't take back the days you
live, life is ... Too Short!

>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?

Heaven is right here, right now, only most don't see it. Hell is not seeing
it for what it is. As for the level of my enlightenment, the best have all
been humbled, I am not as enlightened as the best.

>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?

I am that I am. 

>What is my "agenda" for asking these questions?  Just curious.

What is my agenda for answering these questions? I am that I am.
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From: einari@rhi.hi.is (Einar Indridason)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,soc.motss,alt.atheism,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Survey
Date: 19 Aug 92 01:12:24 GMT
Followup-To: alt.evil

In <ceYMlYC00VpZI12kto@andrew.cmu.edu> ts2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (Thomas Omar Smith) writes:

>Please remove this from .frp.  Fantasy role playing is not a religious
>activity in any sense.  It is a recreational activity, just like any
>other game.


And also from alt.religion.emacs!

Thank you very much!

-- 
einari@rhi.hi.is
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From: 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,soc.motss,rec.games.frp,alt.atheism,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,sci.physics
Subject: Survey
Date: 18 Aug 92 17:47:12 GMT

When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)

If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?

If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
heaven?" What would you say?

What is my "agenda" for asking these questions?  Just curious.

Bye,
CDC
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From: Jesse.Taylor@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Jesse Taylor)
Subject: Re: Survey
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 18:14:27 GMT

In article <920818174611_70253.2621_CHC74-1@CompuServe.COM> 70253.2621@CompuServe.COM (Chris & Susan Colvin) writes:
>When you die, where will you go?  (in the ground is not a valid answer)
	If I knew that, I would be on the weekly televangelist circuit
making megabux, you twit! I have some good guesses... California?

>If you were to die today, would you go to heaven?
	That's debatable. I'm a malicious little backstabbing, amoral
sociopath with only a few redeeming charactaristics. Don't mess with me,
man... :)

>If you were to die today and God asked you, "Why should I let you into my
>heaven?" What would you say?
	"Hey! You think you can control my LIFE?! Who the drek do you
think you are, anyway?! GOD?! oh. right. Why don't you split the
difference and send me to California a.k.a. Purgatory?" @:-)

>What is my "agenda" for asking these questions?  Just curious.
	Oh, so now you expect me to answer a rhetorical question? Your
agenda, you annoying little priest-stereotype, is to annoy the drek out of
happy, badly-adjusted people like me! And, to a lesser degree, the
infinitely-more-wise-than-you role-players-who-aren't-satan-worshippers.
Buzz, chummer. :-)

>Bye,
>CDC

I dunno 'bout that... Maybe I'll see you in Purgatory a.k.a. California?
(evil grin)
JT


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From: 8918877t@levels.unisa.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.evil
Subject: Re: Torture the Whole Planet (was BLOW UP THE WHOLE PLANET!)
Date: 20 Aug 92 00:01:32 GMT
Organization: University of South Australia

>In article <1992Aug17.225423.4523@lmt.mn.org>, alexa@county.lmt.mn.org (Dave Alexander) writes:
>> In article <18293.2a8f65d7@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 8918877t@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>>> 
>>> >In article <1992Aug12.223536.1436@lmt.mn.org>, alexa@county.lmt.mn.org (Dave Alexander) writes:
>>> >> In article <18272.2a8920a0@levels.unisa.edu.au>, 8918877t@levels.unisa.edu.au writes:
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> If we blow up the planet, we cannot spread anymore evil, 
>>> >>> that would be counter productive.
>>> >>> 
>>> >> Agreed. I think we should just order everyone to appear one at a time to be
>>> >> tortured. That way, the planet would still exist and everyone would be happy!
>>> >> 
>>> >> Well, not *everyone*.
>>> >> 
>>> >> -- Alex --
>>> 
>>> To increase the nightmare, how about they get to fill out a questionaire
>>> (923923 questions, all must be answered, or they get tortured for
>>> every question they miss out on again) to see what sort of torture they
>>> prefer.
>>> 
>>> Then give them a different torture method anyway.
>>> --
>>> 
>>> 
>> Of course, you have to assume that they will lie. If for example, the question:
>> Do spiders scare you? is answered with a NO, then of course they are lying and
>> are praying to God that you don't, like, dip them in a vat of squirming spiders.
>> 
>> So whatever they answer, you do the opposite. The FIRST time. Then they expect
>> it the second time, and you of course reverse it.
>> 
>> -- Alex --
>> 
>> scare you? 

But you must assume at least some of them are telling the truth, 
so you may have to indulge in a huge project of reverse reverse
reverse psychology ( a form of torture in itself I am sure ).

Drive the victims mad as well as mutilated and agonized.


--


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                --==THE TERRORIST==--
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From: dart@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan the Witchling)
Newsgroups: alt.evil,alt.pagan,soc.motss,rec.games.frp,alt.atheism,alt.religion.emacs,talk.religion.misc,talk.religion.newage,sci.physics
Subject: Re: Where it came from (was Re: Survey)
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:54:06 GMT
Followup-To: alt.evil
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

>>Usenet.  It was sent from CompuServe using the mail-to-news gateway at
	
	Don't compuserv users have to pay for all the email they _recieve_?
	Heh heh heh...

				D
Newsgroups: alt.evil
From: avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee)
Subject: Re: Bombs and Evil
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:45:42 GMT

>>      EVIL: Evil is an act or actions taken by an intelligent being 
                                                    ^^^^^^^^^^^
>> against another living being which is contrary to the survival of
                   ^^^^^^
>> the target race, whether immediately or in the future. Such an act
>> is evil to the target and all groups and sub-groups to which said
>> target belongs.
>>
>> hows that? Anyone else care to comment?

so would you consider an intelligent man cutting down a living tree
for fire wood evil?

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           /   || |  / /| || | / /
          / /| || | / / | || |/ /
         / / | || |/ /  | || |\ \
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  		@icase.edu
-----------------------------------------------
|"Only the insane have strength to prosper.   |
| Only those that prosper judge what is sane."|
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