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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Request: Highest Score in NFL history
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 15 OCT 92 12:00:35    

In article <1992Oct15.140324.8731@seq.uncwil.edu>, rsmith@seq.uncwil.edu (Ross Smith) writes...

>Adriene_Nazaretian@QM.YCC.YALE.EDU (ALN - GO GIANTS) writes:
> 
>>Looking for the team with the highest scoring game in NFL history, date, 
>>place, etc...
> 
>>Thanks in Advance
> 
>>Adriene L. Nazaretian
> 
>Your Giants got beat in the highest scoring NFL game of all time 72-41
>in NY by the 'Skins on Nov 27 1966.
> 
>The 72 points by Washington is also the highest number of points scored
>in a single game by any team in NFL history.

Er, where do you get your facts?  December 8, 1940 - NFL Championship 
game - Chicago Bears vs Washington Redskins.  Score: Bears 73 - 
Redskins 0.  I don't know if this is the most points scored by a 
single team in any one game but it certainly means that 72 wasn't the 
most.

JGH
From: f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Origin of "Toast"?
Date: 16 Oct 92 17:31:44 GMT
Distribution: world,local
Organization: University of Arizona
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In article <ELM.92Oct16020535@terrorism.berkeley.edu>, elm@cs.berkeley.edu (ethan miller) writes:
> In article <1992Oct16.001425.1@violet.ccit.arizona.edu> f67700241@violet.ccit.arizona.edu (Greg Franklin) writes:
> =>When did this nickname really get popularized?  Elvis Patterson was a
> =>famous NY Giants DB, but I can't recall anyone before him being tagged
> =>with the name "Toast," at least on national TV.  Is it typical NFL
> =>camp coach talk?
> 
> Nah, nothing so complicated.  These DBs are nicknamed "Toast" because
> they get burnt so often.  Patterson is a great special teams player,
> but opposing receivers were always able to get behind him for a
> (relatively) easy reception.

No no no no no .... I know what "Toast" means.  I was looking for a
"first citation" kind of thing.  Not *why*, but *when* did media types
feel comfortable labeling players "Toast."
--
Greg "Mockingbird" Franklin      Interviewer: "Sir, how do you spell relief?"
f67700241@ccit.arizona.edu               Dan: "R-O-L-A-I-D-S-E."

"[George Bush is] the most ruthless white man in the history of the planet."
	-- Richard Ben Cramer, author of _What It Takes_
"The President scores much better than Bill Clinton."
	-- Dan, comparing Bush's record of marital infidelity to Clinton's
From: davem@uvmark.uucp (Dave Meeks)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Miami Dolphins #1
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:49:22 GMT
Organization: Vmark Software, Inc.

In article <1992Oct12.040926.1082@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@nebula.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>In article <BvzMrw.DM@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST) writes:
>>
>>I wouldn't bet on anyone but the Dolphins on winning the AFC East.
>
>Easy to say now. Where were you six weeks ago?

Waiting for something to woof about instead of woofing about nothing...

>
>>Miami Dolphins 5 - 0
>>Buffalo Bills  4 - 2 ( 2 losses against AFC opponents )
>>
>>- Dolphins 14 - 2 AFC East Champs and their sixth Super Bowl. 
>
>The Dolphins have an impressive Won-Lost record so far, but they are
>not a Super Bowl-caliber team. There are simply too many holes. If Miami
>*DOES* turn out to be the AFC representative in the Super Bowl, then
>they will get chewed up by the NFC representative.

WHere are there holes??? They have one of the leagues best QBs, two of the
better WRs (and a very good couple of others), and AllPro TE, and a very good
offensive line (one of the best).  They also have a couple of talented RBs,
and have established a running game.  Offensively, they are top notch.

Defensively?? Well, they have managed to establish themselves as somewhere 
about 4th or so in Pts allowed so far.  They are 5-0, and have only played
2 games at home so far.   They have one of the NFL's sack leaders in  Brian
Cox, have managed a heck of a lot of interceptions, and have one of the
higher ranked total defenses in the league.  

Special teams??  Well ,they have one of, if not the best place kickers in the
game right now.  He is also great at kickoffs.  They also have very good 
return men.  They have an AllPro Punter, who is injured but will be back 
in a little while.  

Coaching..  Don Shula..  'Nuff Said.
Comeback abilitiy... Dan Marino.. 'Nuff said (21 times in his career he has
come from behind in the 4th quarter to win..., three times this season)

Who in the NFC is going to chew them up???  The Eagles??  They got stomped by
KC and showed a lot of holes... Like a horrible offensive line and suspect
defensive backfield.  They have a great defensive line, but with Miami being
a passing team, and with their great offensive line, I would give them the
edge over the Eagles.  Who else???  The 49ers??  Give me a break.  Can you 
say NO DEFENSE!!  How about the Cowboys..  Well, actually I think the Cowboys
may be the best all-around team in the NFC, but they also have holes in the
secondary. 
-- 
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From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Giant Victory Against Rams??
Date: 16 Oct 92 23:43:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Oct16.234308.129
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

Check it out:  
The Rams are currently 28th in rushing defense, allowing an average of
5.2 per rush (no, this is not a typo).  The Gia's are 3rd in rushing
offense...Giants ran for 260 yards against Phoenix last week; look for
Hampton, Bunch and Tillman (and perhaps Ottis!!) to pile up the numbers
agains the Rams. The Giants, 17th in total defense, have shown some
improvement but are still weak in many areas.  The Rams offense (22nd)
is very inconsistent. 

Prediction(s):
IMHO, if the Giants can get on the board first (Rams have been
outscored 48-0 in the first quarter), their ball control offense will
grind it out on the ground for the rest of the afternoon, forcing the
Rams to go for the big play as time becomes precious...the Rams will
make at least one costly turnover late in the game.  Without Delpino
(the Giant killer) in the Ram line-up, Everett and company will pull up
short.  Giants 27 - Rams 17.


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From: rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner)
Subject: Re: Dolphins vs. Raiders
Reply-To: rwturner@IASTATE.EDU (Richard W Turner)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:41:24 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.113817.7447@iscsvax.uni.edu>, bohy6489@iscsvax.uni.edu
writes:
>........................
....................
> I have little or nothing to back this up, and maybe someone can help me.  I
> seem to remember once when Miami played the Raiders (then Oakland) on Monday
> night a few years ago that Frank Gifford said the Raiders were the only team 
> in the NFL with a winning record against the Dolphins (overall, that is).
> 
> Anyone know if this is true or false?
  Well that was some time ago, so things may have changed but it is
  probably still generally true. But I do know for a fact that there are
  some teams that have never beaten the Dolphins e.g. the Green Bay Packers.
  (This is because when Green Bay was great, Miami wasn't in the league
    and never got to play them. - Though one year (1988) when Miami was shitty
     they went 0 - 8 in the division and 6 - 2 outside. 
   Are there any other cases of a team never winning a game against another?
   I also think the Giants are 1 - 1  overall against Miami.  It seems some     
teams never
    get to play each other much. I think the Eagles and the Chiefs game
   this weekend is one of the very few (2nd) meetings between the teams.
>
===============================================================================
> Jim Bohy               
> Graduate Student
> University of Northern Iowa     
===============================================================================
                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^ 
    Bryce Paup's old team, it was Paup that popped Randall in week 2
    last year in the Packer-Eagles game.
    How about them panthers, they sure kicked the cyclones in the ass.

Richard Turner
Iowa State.
From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Free Agency
Date: 12 Oct 92 11:46:22 GMT
Reply-To: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.152.10.9

In article 20134@macc.wisc.edu, heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
> In article <1992Oct9.090100.667@totaltec.com>, mark@totaltec.com writes...
> >If they are not competing then why bother signing a Keith Jackson or a Webster
> >Slaughter?? That only drives up the cost of operating the team by increasing
> >player salaries ????
> 
> Because they are competing against other forms of entertainment like 
> baseball and watching the lawn grow.  A winning team is good for 
> attendance.  A couple of home playoff games is *really* good for 
> attendance.

Which is (*sigh*) why the Bears will not sign any decent free agents.
They still get good attendance,  whatever their record.  Winter games
will have a bunch of noshows,  (watch a game in Soldier Field in December
& you will understand why),  but they will still be popular.  There are just
too many people in the Metro Chicago area so filling up SF at 65K is
not tough.



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From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rules-question
Date: 15 Oct 92 08:35:55 GMT
Reply-To: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.152.10.9

In article 594@acsu.buffalo.edu, v073pzuy@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Mr. Tinkertrain) writes:
> In article <1992Oct15.110254.10475@cs.hut.fi>, killer@robin.cs.hut.fi (Kalle 
> 	Kivimaa) writes...
> 
> >No.  You can score a field goal with a scrimmage kick or a free kick
> >after a fair catch.  Thus, a touchback.
> 
> After a fair catch?  Get out of town...
> 
> Someone tell me that's not true...

Sorry,  but it is true.  I have seen it happen in high school,  after a 
punt fair caught at the 40.  The opposing team can ask for a free kick,  
basically a kick-off from that point.  If it goes through the up-rights,
3 points,  if not,  other teams ball at the 20....

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From: v130pwbq@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (ANTI-CHRIST)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Colts and Bills
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:15:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I don't know how many of you out there have noticed but after this sunday's
game, at home against I believe Cleveland, the Indianapolis Colts could be
4-2. This would put them in a tie with the Bills. When you think about it,
it's kinda funny how a team that went 1-15 last year could be tied with a
team that went 13-3 and to the Super Bowl the same year.  
    _____________________________________________________________________
   |   Miami Dolphins and Hurricanes:        * Eric Orologio " Dr. O"    |
   |   Two of the Best teams in Football!    * V130pwbq @ubvms           |
   |_____________________________________________________________________|
From: billms@eecs.umich.edu (William Mangione-Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: RE:EAGLES ARE OVERATTED
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:39:07 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan

In article <1992Oct11.194051.1@wharton.upenn.edu> yasin18@wharton.upenn.edu writes:

   The posting by one BRAD.R.NEWBERG is a result of his hatred for the EAGLES.  
   I personally know MR. NEWBERG and guess what?  He is a Dallas COWBOYS fan who
   got their asses kicked on Monday night.  Furthermore MR.NEWBERG just happen to
   lose a huge sum of dinero on the EAGLES today.  His comments are not objective
   and should not be posted on this network.  This newsgroup is here for the
   discussion of football, not a vent for certain people's hatred and anger for
   certain football teams.

I believe you meant to write "this news group should be here...", since there
is plenty of evidence to prove your current phrasing wrong.

Bill

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From: auwen@convex.com (John David Auwen)
Subject: Re: Dallas killed by Philly
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:19:04 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Oct6.174740.27895@hellgate.utah.edu> twolf@cs.utah.edu (Tom Wolf) writes:
>1) Dallas had Aikman & Philly had Cuningham.
>	After watching Dallas play 3 games this year, I keep wondering how
>	Aikman holds onto the #1 QB job in Dallas. In 2 of the 3 games, he
>	was horrible (Washington & Philly). Against the Giants, he was
>	mediocre. How does he get the tag of future star QB? By playing on
>	a rising team in Dallas?

Cunningham didn't play any better than Aikman.  He was lucky to have a couple
of BAD throws clank off the hands of Dallas defenders.  He's a great
quarterback and that only shows that the great ones make mistakes.  Aikman's
not a great one yet but will be if he can avoid serious injury.

Dave
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From: wcw@wegl.b24a.ingr.com (William Wallace)
Subject: Status of Jim Kelly
Organization: Intergraph Corporation, Huntsville, AL.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:32:18 GMT

Does anyone in the no anything about the status of 
Jim Kelly?

I heard he hurt his arm in Sunday's game against the
Dolphins.  Any information will be appreciated.

Thanks,

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From: klbartle@david.wheaton.edu (Kevin Bartlett)
Subject: Re: Dallas was beaten by bad luck, not the eagles!
Organization: Wheaton College, IL
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 06:07:07 GMT

>>                                                   "Bad luck" is losing
>>your All-World defensive lineman for an eternity so he can be part of the
>>All-Heaven team.  That's "bad luck".
>
>No, that's called "wreckless driving".
>
If that's a pun, it's a horrible one.  If it's not, it should be "reckless
driving" not "wreck-less driving."

>Ray         GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

					. . . the Mantis

Randall Cunningham for president.
Go EAGLES!
From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cleveland's Starting QB
Date: 15 Oct 92 23:09:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison

In article <3bV002v526wo01@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com> jan10@cd.amdahl.com (jim Nimmer) writes:
>Anyone know who's starting for Cleveland this Sunday?

Uh, unless he's hurt, it will still be Mike Tomczak, I guess.

2nd string is Brad "Aesop's" Goebl.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM (Andy Knipp SE Andersen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: KC-Phil game:rule question
Date: 12 Oct 92 14:24:21 GMT
Reply-To: andy@misha.Central.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.152.10.9

In article 154245@mccall.com, scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis) writes:
> 
> During the KC-Phil game, KC was punting.  A KC coverage guy(Thompson?)
> ran into the Phil punt returner.  Flag thrown.  Upon refs discussion
> the coverage man was pushed into the returner, no flag.  But shouldn't
> that have meant the coverage man was pushed from behind?  Therefore,
> a penalty?  Or, since there was no flag, then shouldn't the ball have
> been downed where it stopped(or is it that the ref whistled the play
> after the returner was hit?)?

When player is blocked into a player trying to fair catch the ball,  
the fair catch is allowed & play resumes as if it was made.  

Why they did not through a flag could be because the 
ref didn't think it was a clip,  or it since there was no 
runback,  there was no clip.


 


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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: JGH computer rankings - week 7
Date: 13 Oct 92 17:28:36 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center

Here are my program's ratings after week 6.  Note that the Dolphins
and Eagles are actually tied for first.  Broncos have dropped out
of the top 10.  Also, while 4 of the top ten teams are AFC (pretty
even) 7 of the bottom 10 are also AFC.

 1 Dolphins       85
 2 Eagles         85
 3 Cowboys        82
 4 49ers          81
 5 Saints         80
 6 Redskins       77
 7 Chiefs         75
 8 Oilers         73
 9 Vikings        68
10 Bills          65
11 Broncos        60
12 Lions          56
13 Falcons        51
14 Bears          50
15 Raiders        45
16 Giants         45
17 Steelers       41
18 Buccaneers     40
19 Colts          36
20 Browns         34
21 Rams           33
22 Packers        31
23 Bengals        29
24 Cardinals      24
25 Jets           20
26 Chargers       17
27 Seahawks       16
28 Patriots       12

JGH

"There are three things that are important to every man in this room.  
 His religion, his family, and the Green Bay Packers, in that order"
                   - Vince Lombardi as quoted by Jerry Kramer
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From: killer@robin.cs.hut.fi (Kalle Kivimaa)
Subject: Re: Rules Question??
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, CS lab
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:51:15 GMT

In <69614@hydra.gatech.EDU> vaps0de@prism.gatech.EDU (Dustin Emhart) writes:
>Actually, logically, possession changes when the receiving team gains posession
>and/or the kick ends.

The status of the ball during a scrimmage kick down:

a) From the snap to the instant the ball is kicked:
   Team A has posession.

b) From the instant the ball is kicked until the ball is touched
   by team B:  The ball is loose in posession of team A.

c) From the instant the ball is caught by team B till the down ends
   (or team B fumbles):  Team B has posession.

d) If team B muffs the ball:  The ball is still loose in posession
   of team A!

Remember, muff implies no posession, fumble is always preceded with
posession.
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From: salas-m@plains.NoDak.edu (Juan P. Salas)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Vikings Prediction through 1992
Date: 14 Oct 92 17:18:02 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <14OCT199212313309@venus.lerc.nasa.gov> smorris@venus.lerc.nasa.gov (Ron Morris ) writes:
>Eric Sybesma writes...
>
>You Vikings fans are doing a lot of woofing lately.  So you seem
>to think Minnesota will win by 13 or 16, depending upon whether
>your math or typing skills need improvement.  Tell ya what.  You
>
>Ron

Hold it now, I have not seen any "woofing" from any viking fan.
THose are just predictions..........
I think we have learned not to "Woof", because of our past
record in the playoffs...

thanks
Juan_Pablo
(A die-hard viking fan)


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From: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: "ice" and "power" cowboy notes???
Date: 7 Oct 92 15:25:41 GMT
Reply-To: patpower@crchh458.bnr.ca (Patrick Power)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx

In article <26075@oasys.dt.navy.mil>, hambric@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stephen Hambric) writes:
|> Have you guys decided to take the week off?
|> 
|> ;-)
|> 
|> Steve Hambric (hambric@oasys.dt.navy.mil)


    I've been in a deep state of mourning over Monday's game...  :)

Oh, well...You can't spot anyone the ball 4 times (most of these in 
Dallas territory) and expect to win, esp. vs the Iggles.  

    I was impressed by the play of Eric Allen Monday...I've seen him
play several times, but he was really on top of his game Monday.  Thats
another thing that killed Dallas...Eight different players on the Iggles
defensed a pass...that's what you call team effort.  Why didn't Norv 
Turner try to match up Irvin on Jenkins more often?

    What was once an imposing schedule, is no longer.  Dallas and NYGiants
had the toughest schedule based on last years results: their opponents
had a .570 winning percentage.  But now, with the Giants and Cards at 1-3,
Skins at 2-2, Raiders, Lions, and Seattle at 1-4  the "Road to the SuperBowl"
looks much easier.  Of course, you can't really project accurately with 
only 4-5 games.  Any team can get on a winning streak... 

Notes from DMNews:

     Bobby Abrams, LB and ST player was released today.  Could Dallas be
making room for JSmith WR, or RBlake RB?

     RJones showed improvement in a reduced role vs Iggles.  Tues. stats
listed him with 10 tackles, but after further review, he is now listed 
with 16 making him the season leader for the Boys.

     Emmitt accuses Dirty Waters of cheap shots.  IMHO, the highlight of 
the game was watching Waters nearly pass out after hitting one of his own
teammates.  His techniques, which are not illegal, are very questionable
and considered unethical by most players.  Anyhow, Emmitt sez " He'll get
his someday. If I don't give it to him, somebody else will."  



-- 
The small victories * the cankers and medallions *         | Pat Power
The little nothings * they keep me thinking that someday * | My opinions only
I might beat you * But I'll just keep my mouth shut *      |
       - Faith No More, "A Small Victory"                  | Da Boyz are back!!
From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Eagles Class Acts ... NOT!
Date: 9 Oct 92 14:38:33 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

Speaking of the great sense of sportsmanship that the Iggles have (like
Randall throwing a TD pass after kneeling down twice towards the end of 
an Iggles blowout against the Cowboys a few years back), how about Monday's
game:

- Aikman's shoes come off. The nice Iggles DE picks it up and then tosses it
  away.
- The O line is called for false-start. Nice Clyde Simmons starts clapping in
  their faces.
- And oh who could ever forget Andre Waters' (surprise) knack for getting into
  tiffs with the bad Cowboys.

Buddy Ryan may be gone but hi spirit still haunts the Vet.

satish nair
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