From: cs_rayhy@uxmail.ust.hk ("siu" YEN YEN)
Subject: Re: I am back from Beijing.....
Organization: Hong Kong University of Science and Technology
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:54:52 GMT

In article <1992Sep29.133015.468@pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu> 91066702@cphkvx.cphk.hk writes:

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>The third thing is...I read a news by a student in HKU..sorry, if the following
>lines would hurt you, please forgive me.....
>Well, there are HK students like me, who is a frequent contributor, you can ask
>those SCHKers who sent in pop charts every week...and this has lasted for about
>a month already, have you ever read that? Does that count as contribution?
>Sorry, I think you are really a bit too proud of HKU, or too proud to be a HKU
>student...your news seems like command, and the most is....I think you yourself
>is not or has not been a frequent user here, or you will not say that there is
>"NO" HK people here....You should know that there are just too many things to
>do in HK! (Please forgive my rudeness, I just don't like proud people...)
>
>I can tell you that I myself is only a contributor and seldom read SCHK, it is
>because I think if I know there is anything I can do for these overseas,
>homesicked students, I should try my very best....like I have asked them long
>time ago if anyone is interested in pop music, and then find that they really
>need these info...so, at last I posted charts for them here every week, even I
>seldom read the news here...ok, I am losing my self control now, so I think it
>is better for me to stop talking about this issue.
>
>
>Aulina from CPHK, still in summer vacation.
>1992.9.29 15:07
>


        I am just a little bit disappointed on your criticism and your trial
to defend for our HK students. Well, I've seen your posting on the suggestion
of posting pop charts long before. If this can be treated as contribution, 
that's good! that's fine! But it seems that you're trying to defend for HK
students, not yourself only. Really, I've seen some `constructive` postings
from your honourable institution, CUHK, UST and csd.hku. Do you think it's
too `adequate` to those described as `homesicked` overseas nettrer?

        Well, I think I'm not frequent reader of schk in the past. That's
true! 'cos I've never heard of that before. I started to read schk in Apr,93
after I met a UST friend. And to most of the netters in schk, "half-year
experience" seems to be enough to be classified as in a "new-comer" level.
However, in the past half year, how many postings can you see in schk that's
from HK? Maybe I am a silent reader in the past. But, do you think your "just
one-month-contribution" can be strong enough to beat an "half-yr-old" reader?
I agree that you've really done a good job to those overseas schkers, but
you should think it over and over again that the role played by HK students,
to schk, should be just as simple as that? Posting pop charts...or latest HK
news....etc.... is a good idea I think. But, the participation is actually
the most important element...the spirit that we felt in schk..... I've never
had such feeling when reading hku newsgroups .... Thus, there's no reasons
for you to post such a strong article to defend for "still-silent" majority
of HK netters and against a "no-longer-silent" HK netter? Don't you think I
spoke out the words from the deepest heart of most `silent` HK netters in my
previous posting? As you said, there are just too many things to do in HK.
Who care what the hell is happening in schk?...and why they should always be
"universal donor" endlessly supplying updated info. from HK? If you are not
belonging to that group of HK students, please don't spend your valuable
time. You're not the target that I'm aiming at.

        Perhaps you can say that I'm just a new-comer and don't have enough
"qualification" to judge the contributions being made by HK students. But,
think and look, the degree of participation.......
Well, maybe I should correct "no" to "not much" to stop your criticism.

        You said you're only a contributor and seldom read schk. Then, in
what sense you're determining the nature of the word `contribution`? Giving
out and no care, no concern? Just like a prostitute having sex with a man
but not her boyfriend?.. or .. a gigolo having sex with a woman but not his
girlfriend??.. I'm sorry I can't think of any better substitute of the above
sentence.

        And you said I'm really proud of HKU, or being HKU student. Or more
directly, I'm a "inch" HKU student or HKU student is always "inch"??
Now, What's in your mind? I really doubt. What is your intention of posting
this article? Just for showing off you're frequent contributor and K.O.
a new-comer or his foolish opinion or his "pretending expert" opinion or a
traditionally "inch" HKU student? Do you think it is wise to be proud of HKU or "inch" in schk when facing so many smart guys and gals from MIT, CalTech, UIUC,
DEC, HP, NASA, CPHK....... ?? Maybe my english is bad and led to so many 
misunderstandings to me or HKU students. I hope "inch" <==> "HKU" will not 
always be in our netters' mind and " bad-english <==> command-like-english
<==> `inch` or `proud`" is not the cause of your posting. I don't mean the
above is "personal attack". I may be a little bit gone too far and I 
apologise if you feel so!



Clement.