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From: jyrkis@mits.mdata.fi (Jyrki Saarinen)
Subject: Sorry, but where I can get A2630 again..?
Organization: Microdata Oy, Helsinki, Finland
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:17:14 GMT

I'm very sorry about this but could that guy from Germany email me again
that company's name etc. again because I accidentaly lost it.

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From: tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:49:57 GMT
Subject: Re: Help me find a printer! Laser? Color DeskJet?
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware

art@cs.brown.edu (graphics artists) writes:

>Hi - I'm looking to buy a good printer for my amiga 3000.
>My primary uses are graphics and maybe some DTP.  I need to produce
>good quality black and white transparancies that have a high
>degree of opacity.  
Why the opacity?  For overhead transparencies, or for contact
printing PC boards?  I do both with my LaserJet IIP, and it's just
dandy for overheads, but not really quite up to it for the contact
printing work.
>I can't spend more than $1000 on the thing, including any 
>expansion memory, first toner cartridge... I'd prefer a printer around
>$800 or lower.
You should be able to get a LaserJet IIP in this range, maybe even the
IIP Plus.  (IIP if anyone still has them...)
>How's the deskjet stack up? Is its printout opaque? Can it do 24bit color
>printout in 300dpi?  Can it print transparancies? 
Overheads are quite nice; one of our folk did some presentations with
color slides and they were bright and crisp.  The black transparencies
were fine, again for overheads.

But for 24 bit color at 300dpi, if you really mean each dot can be one
of 2^24 different colors, you better plan on a LOT more than $1000 at
this point.  The inkjet either puts a dot of a primary color at a location
or it doesn't--there's no partial dot.  So you only get a few possible
colors at each dot.  Shading must be done by dithering.

>I figure I'll need at least 1.5 megs for graphics... Is that reasonable? My 
>amiga has 6 megs - is that relevant?
Amiga memory shouldn't matter, unless you are assembling whole pages there.
Then a single plane 8x10.5" of 300dpi is about 945,000 bytes.  In a
laser printer, you have to have the info for a whole page in the printer
before you start printing the page, so yes, 1.5 megs is about the
minimum for graphics.  BTW, the LJIIP+ is faster at accepting data than
the LJIIP, and if you are printing multiple different pages of full
graphics, the transfer time can get to be a pain--and if the program/
driver you are using is slow, that makes it just that much worse.  This
can be a big advantage for PostScript, or for a program that downloads
softfonts to the printer for text applications instead of printing pages
as graphics.
From: heuvdp@cbmnl.nl.so.commodore.com (Paul Heu vd Netherlands)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A600 PCMCIA & FASTMEM ??
Date: 22 Jul 92 15:48:59 GMT
Organization: Commodore Netherlands

rwesleyag@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
> Greetings all,
> 
> We have recently got an A600HD and love it (Its so small&cute).
> BUT, whats the story with fast mem. From what I can tell the ONLY
> way to add true FASTMEM is through the PCMCIA slot, is this so?
>

Yes

> This leads me to my next question, DO COMMODORE HAVE THE ABILITY to
> manufacture PCMCIA cards or are we left to the mercy of 3rd party manufacts.
>

PCMCIA memory is available from a number of manufacturers
ranging from 256-4MB. Access time is between 100 and 250 ns.
Don't forget PCMCIA is an Industry standard, supported by some
MAJOR names in the buisiness..

A large number of cards is available ranging from
RAM/ROM/FLASHROM to SCSI adaptors, LAN adaptors, modems
and so on..

> how clever is the amiga based device, is it just a big RAM drive?
>

It is PCMCIA 2.0 compliant

> If code is not capable of being executed from the slot and its acting
> like a HDisk is it possible to remove and insert PCMCIA cards live? 

The A600 implementation support XIP (eXecute In Place) software.
RAMcards can be set up as RAMdrive or as system RAM..

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From: tomme@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Thomas Holmstr|m)
Subject: "Battery backed up clock not found" ??
Keywords: battery, clock, hardware, memory
Organization: UDAC, Uppsala, Sweden
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 06:22:44 GMT

	A few days ago my battery clock stopped working, that's what my
"setclock opt [save|load|reset]" tells me. I have had some problems before
when running odd games and utilities that have crashed my Amiga and when I've
booted I have had to do a setclock reset before I could reload the current
time. This time nothing seems to work. Can the battery be empty? I have allways
thought that the battery was charged when my computer was on and that it
wouldn't ever become empty. The battery clock sits on an expansion ram called
A-580 (or was it 560) with 2.5Mb ram (with the FatterAgnus, 2.3 without) in
the internal slot (on an 500).

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From: pat_meloy@outb.wimsey.bc.ca (Pat Meloy)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: 386BB and 2630
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:35:41 PDT

 I'm about to purchase the new 386sx Bridgecard, but I have a question
about memory. I know with the BB installed I'm limited to 6 megs of 16 bit
memory on the Amiga. I presently have 5 megs of 16 bit memory so this isn't
a problem. However, I also have 4 megs of 32 bit memory on my 2630 card and
I'm wondering if this is automatically mapped outside the normal 9 meg or
not (In other words, will I still be cut off at 6 megs of ram?)

 The other thing is about the BB's memory. I've gotten the idea that it
allows the Amiga to use up to 4 megs of its ram. I don't remember where I
saw that and I'm wondering if its true (might have confused it with the
golden gate 386 card?)

 Any help appreciated.

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From: tw5232@albnyvms.bitnet (Teddy Wang)
Subject: RCS FF'040 + Trumpcard Pro
Reply-To: tw5232@albnyvms.bitnet
Organization: University of NY at Albany
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 02:02:12 GMT

Finally got my RCS Fusion Forty a couple of days ago.  Had a b*tch of a time
installing it though!  Looks as if RCS added a couple of millimeters when they
measured how long the 2000 motherboard is.  But my real question is has anyone
had a problem with RCS's Fusion Forty and IVS's Trumpcard Pro to work together
O.K.  I had to install the software without the Fusion Forty in place, and now
the hard drive crashes everytime I write to the hard drive...

Any help will be greatly appreciated.  I'm trying the net because support here
has been good, and I usually check here BEFORE calling tech support!

Thanks again,

 
     ////////  
       //                                             twang@thor.albany.edu
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From: TomK@cup.portal.com (Tom R Krotchko)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: Tape SCSI medium error (HardFrame/Viper)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 15:46:33 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Jul23.230804.2738@gtephx.UUCP>

Is the DC600 the correct tape for the Viper? I thought it took
6150/6250 type tapes. I realize they're the same form factor, but
there's a difference (I haven't a clue as to what).

TomK@cup.portal.com
Tom Krotchko
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: paws@spam.cray.com (Daniel Baehr)
Subject: Re: scsi tape media
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.
Distribution: comp
Date: 29 Jul 92 12:02:44 CDT


In article <1992Jul29.1124.10585@channel1>, "jeff ruck" <jeff.ruck@channel1.com> writes:

>  Have you ever heard of CARLISLE breand of media?  I've heard good
> things about them (better than SONY etc ...) and the ones I have work
> like a charm.  I also know of one company who only uses CARLISLE media
> to ship their products on.

    Nope never heard of them.  Well, 3M is better than Sony.  Where did 
 you order them from?


> 
>   --Jeff
> jeff.ruck@channel1.com
> --
> Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA
> 


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: kopackm@lonex.rl.af.mil (Michael A. Kopack)
Subject: Re: EMPLANT and Game Console emulation (was Re: EMPLANT)
Organization: RL
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 17:35:02 GMT

I'm afraid that I'd have to agree with the author of the previous article
(probably should have included it, huh?) in saying that Emplant should be
focused on developing for computer systems, and not game machines. If I really
want a game machine, I'll go out and buy one. I'd much rather spend the money
on an emplant and eventually be able to emulate say, a Sparc Station, or
a 486/33 or a Quadra, each of which would far outcost the Emplant board.
I wouldn't mind seeing a good C64 emulation mode or possibly an Atari 2600,
but both of these should be relatively simple to do with the Emplant based
on the currently available information.

Stick with the emulation of real computers Jim, don't waste time with the
Game Machines. Mac and IBM emulation are MUCH more important IMHO.

--Mike Kopack

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From: jfoust@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (James C. Foust)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: AMAX and Supra2400zi
Date: 20 Jul 92 20:40:55 GMT
Organization: Ohio University C.S. Dept, Athens

I just purchased an AMAX II, and I'm wondering if its going to work
with my Supra 2400 Zi (Internal) modem.  Anyone have any experience
with this?  I'm still not ready to tackle that part of the project,
but thought I'd fish for some info....

Thanks!

Ji
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: u9050912@golum.riv.csu.edu.au (Jason J. Strudwick)
Subject: ATonce Plus Software
Organization: Charles Sturt University - Riverina, Wagga Wagga, NSW, Australia
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:52:18 GMT

I am in desperate need of v2.33 or higher of the ATonce software. I
could send to Germany to get an update, but I need KickStart 2
compatability now, and it would take too long. I need to use ATonce quite
a lot at the moment, but without a KS2 version, I'm stuck.
From: Robert.Hartill@cm.cf.ac.uk (A N Other)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Janus 2.1, where ? (UK readers)
Date: 22 Jul 92 07:11:02 GMT
Distribution: uk
Organization: Shabby

Hi,

 I've just fitted the Workbench 2.0 ROM upgrade, and find I can't
use the janus software that I'd been using for my XT bridgeboard.

 The documentation says I must use janus 2.1

 Where can I get (fast) ?
 
thanks.

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From: Lloyd_Sumpter@mindlink.bc.ca (Lloyd Sumpter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: AMAX does MAC hardware?
Date: 31 Jul 92 01:40:10 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

     I have a question for the AMAXII+ gurus out there:

     Can you use MAC hardware add-ons (probably SCSI) with AMAX? I have two
things in mind:
    1. Networking - a friend has a nice SCSI <-> ethernet box that runs on
his MAC (I have heard that the Amiga has some semblance of networking
software, but I'm being serious here)
    2. Serial/parallel support: I'd like to run Laplink (using SoftPC if
there's no MAC version) using the parallel port to connect to my notebook.

    My other major use for the MAC emulation would be CAD. Is there a good
inexpensive CAD package for the MAC that runs on AMAXII+ (such as Generic
CAD)?


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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: cpw8034@venus.tamu.edu (ALAN CHIPIN WEN (409)693-2924)
Subject: Re: First to ask about Emplant?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 22:03:00 GMT

>UU hasn't been the most outgoing marketeers in the computer business.
>They've usually used small, B.W. ads in obscure parts of CBM magazines, so
>not seeing anything about Emplant isn't too surprising.  But, since it is
>so close to (err, past) the original posted release date, I'm surprised
>that no one other than netland has heard of Emplant.  That's not a very
>good way to promote a "killer" product such as this emulate-all device.
>They should at least have the eval unit demo'ed to dealers, magazine
>editors, etc. to get publicity, but this is Utilities Unlimited.

Well, the only logical explanation is that either UU has no more resources
to advertise or that Emplant simply isn't stable enough.  If emplant works
perfectly as it was so boasted, it would be all over all Amiga magazines and
perhaps over a few non amiga publications too.  You don't have to be the
vice-president of UU to figure this out...

alan
From: u2112539@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Questions on AMAX II with 2.5 Software
Date: 28 Jul 92 16:02:59 +1000
Organization: University of New South Wales

In article <cheungc.712236213@p4.cs.man.ac.uk>, cheungc@p4.cs.man.ac.uk (Carson Cheung) writes:
> Does the latest version of the AMAX Software work on the original hardware?
> 
> What advantages are there with the latest software compared with version 2.06?
> 
> Can somebody e-mail me a copy of the software if it is compatible with my
> hardware which I bought second hand and I don't     
> know where I can get hold of the new software from in the U.K.
> (nobody seems to know about it over here) 
> 
> If anyone is willing to e-mail me the software then e-mail me before doing so
> since I do not want to receive multiple copies.
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Carson Cheung
> 
>

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	I don't realy think you will get multiple copies. If ya do and can
spare some, do us a followup.
 		           
	George

PS: Well ya never know
From: Tom_Gowdyk@mindlink.bc.ca (Tom Gowdyk)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Connecting 3.5 Drive to A2088
Date: 29 Jul 92 07:00:45 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada
Distribution: world

I just bought a 3.5 inch 1.44 meg floppy drive to run on my A2088 bridge board.
Can anyone tell me how to do this, I can't seem to make it work.  I am running
the following system:

Amiga 2000HD with 2091 controller, Quantum 40 meg Hard Drive, 7 megs of RAM,
A2088 Bridgeboard with a SOta 286i Accelerator card.

Any help appreciated.

Tom Gowdyk

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: rickan@maccs.dcss.mcmaster.ca (Mark Rickan)
Subject: Re: First to ask about Emplant?
Organization: Department of Computer Science, McMaster University
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 01:34:32 GMT

In article <14k7ltINN7s1@network.ucsd.edu> simon@ivem.uucp (Simon Lee) writes:

>>This is certainly debatable, as UU has placed an ad in Amazing Computing for
>>the last several months. Perhaps not at all spectacular, but definitely
>>there.

>They have advertised, but certainly not to the extent of NewTek or GVP.

I would also imagine that both NewTek and GVP are orders of magnitude larger
than UU. 

>Their product has been announced on the net for a while now, and it has
>had it's share of 'vaporware' calling, but my point was that they should
>announce their product in a more general forum than Usenet, perhaps
>Amigaworld, especially since he has made many claims of it's finalness.

I tend to agree, especially since I have some advertising concepts in mind :).
Of course, I'd prefer to see promotion based on availability and FCC
clearance, not pipe dreams.

Mark

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From: consp03@bingsuns.cc.binghamton.edu (Kriston J. Rehberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: OS/2
Date: 23 Jul 92 07:36:07 GMT
Organization: Binghamton University Computing Services - The POD Staff

In article <1992Jul21.104111.13819@sarah.albany.edu> tw5232@albnyvms.bitnet (Teddy Wang) writes:

>Yes but take a look at the size of some of the executables which your UNIX
>boxes take up!  GNU Emacs is over 1.5 megs, anything using X is at least over a
>meg.  You really cannot compare UNIX with a micro operating system like the
>Amiga, the only real advantage the Amiga would have over such a portable, fast,
>universally accepted OS is in hard disk space saved!

Well, your executable sizes do depend on the architecture used.  GNU
emacs on our Sun network took up about 700k, but on the new sparc
architecture it now takes up a bit over a megabyte.

>So Commodore, when are you going to bless us with virtual memory?!?!?!  Windows
>has had it since v3.0, OS/2 has had it since v1.3, and Macintosh has even had
>it for a year!  

It is cheaper and faster in AmigaDOS to just go out and buy more
memory... unless you run like 3 ray tracers, a BBS, 4 games and 26
shell windows at the same time.

>     //  eddy Wang                                    TW5232@ALBNYVMS.BITNET

Kris

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From: hurtt@tramp.Colorado.EDU (HURTT CHRISTOPHER MICHAEL)
Subject: Re: Toaster Emulator 
Summary: Run lightwave without toaster 
Keywords:  NewTek Lightwave Toaster Jello Cheerleaders Spam Green Eggs
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:29:51 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.121852.2762@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au> u2112539@csdvax.csd.unsw.edu.au writes:

>
>	?!?!?!? I thought you had a toster emulator. ie. I think it had been
>spotted by the name A2000. Lightwave does work pretty well on it although it
>prefers to have a sticker over it that says Toster station.
>
>>> Steven Biddle

	Sure but Lightwave would run just as well without a extra $2000 board
I don't want/need! Gosh, gee- if someone wrote a software Toaster emulator
even 500, 600 and 1000 owners could use it.
	Too bad Lightwave would be pirated to the ends of the earth if it ever
should be unbundled. :(

	Chris

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
From: leeuw@fwi.uva.nl (Jacco de Leeuw)
Subject: Re: First to ask about Emplant?
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 10:57:40 GMT

rpfaff@umiacs.umd.edu (Ray Pfaff) writes:

>I think that Mr. Drew should provide a prototype to one of the Amiga mags
>(he himself stated that he'd give one to a third party for review).  I 
>won't bash, but I think the product is just so much vaporware until I
>see it released or see something like that happen.

Yeah, why doesn't he post here some kind of digitized picture of the product?
So that we don't have to wait for a review to be convinced of the mere
existance of the thing?

It shouldn't be that difficult... and mr. Drew has stated that he's "bored"
now the product is finished, so I reckon he has loads of time to scan
an image...

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From: cpw8034@venus.tamu.edu (ALAN CHIPIN WEN (409)693-2924)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Does A-MaxII(v2.06)  Work With AdSpeed?
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:10:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: venus.24JUL199211105044
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

I think that just about says it... is amaxII compatible with AdSpeed?  Will
the combo crash?  Will AdSpeed speed up AmaxII?  Just simple yes's or no's will
be appreciated!  thanz

Alan
From: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Where is AMAX FAQ?
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:52:56 GMT
Reply-To: tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com (Terry Carroll)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation

I've lost my only copy of the AMAX FAQ (which was a paper copy).  Can anyone 
point me to an FTP site, or email me a copy.  I know it's old, but I've still 
found it to be useful.

Thanks.

 -tc

Terry Carroll - tjc50@juts.ccc.amdahl.com - 408/992-2152
The opinions presented above are not necessarily those of a sound mind.
From: brianr@tekig1.PEN.TEK.COM (Brian E Rhodefer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.emulations
Subject: Re: Questions AMAX II with 2.5 Software
Date: 25 Jul 92 02:54:25 GMT
Reply-To: brianr@tekig1.pen.tek.com
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <1992Jul24.144048.26670@Cadence.COM> atul@Cadence.COM (Atul Srinivasan) writes:
>Hello,
>	For anyone who knows,
>
>- Does 2.5 support accelerators ?

 Maybe.

>
>- Is there a list of accelerators it does or does not
>support ?

Here's a partial list of accelerators it does NOT support:

 - the Commodore 68020 CPU accelerator shipped with A2500s.

The A-MaxII+ software gets no farther than putting up the Mac
Desktop screen, and then becomes unresponsive to mouse input.

>
>- Whats the upgrade policy for software only ?
>

ReadySoft has already sent me a software upgrade on two floppy disks,
along with a nice letter of apology, claiming that the new software
fixes the known problems with the initial version of AmaxII+.  Not
the problem I'm having, though.  I *can* run the AmaxII emulator by
booting up in 68000 mode, but the 2Megs of expansion RAM that's on the
accelerator is sorely missed.

Brian Rhodefer