HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: walsh@pilgrim.carlisle.ma.us
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problems with "From " header?
Date: 10 Jan 93 17:53:27 GMT
Organization: Carlisle, Massachusetts USA

I had a similar problem ... it seems that using rmail from the
command line results in problems with the outgoing mail headers.
The solution is to include ALL of the header info in the message
going out, including the From line (as well as the From: line).
Leave an extra space after your system name, and before the date.

- John Walsh
  walsh@pilgrim.carlisle.ma.us
From: system@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Out Of Memory error
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 00:30:14 PST
Reply-To: system@cyberden.sf.ca.us
Organization: Indescribable Creations

Problem:

User has 100+ letters.

He is set only to send out 10 per day due to his user level.

He sends out 10.

He sometimes quits at that point or is informed that he has reached his max.

He quits mail.

Waffle tries to delete the 10 msgs he told to delete.

At around 7, 8 9 or 10, Waffle blows up, memory allocation error, cannot
locate command.com which is a load of crap. It's where it should be and
the comspec is correct.

Waffle is blowing chunks.

Any fix for this?

Thanks

__________________________________________________________________________
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From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (Kennelmeister)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Old XT + Waffle + Fossil + V.32bis = ?
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 14:47:18 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

hp@floor.uucp.risc.net (High Priest) writes:

> Well, I would be happy with 1000 cps. I'm currently getting 400-500 cps 
> on a v.32bis connect from my feed. (UNIX machine)
> The admin at my feed says there's nothing he can do, the 'g' protocol is 
> simply too inefficient. Is there anything that I can do?
> 450 cps on a 14,400 connect is pathetic.

Hmmmm. I'm getting 1350cps from my machine to my feed and 1150cps the
other way round (V32bis connection, his machine is a 386SX 16MHz running
Coherent.)
(NOTE: I have all compresion and error correction turned off, as I found
       they significantly slowed things down!)

However my feed is only getting ~650cps to/from his feed (a local University)
- it appears that the limiting factor in that case is the server at the
remote end loading down with all the other tasks it performs.

Try turning off any MNP/V42/V42bis. if that doesn't improve your
throughput, the problem is most likely at the far end.
(ie. their DTE speed, or simply not enough server power to run any faster.)


--
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Dawghaus BBS -> +64 (6) 357-9245                New Zealand
             "A wet and windy place in the South Pacific"
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Internet Mailing lists gated to local Newsgroup
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 13:15:21 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

roshne@faerun.mi.org (Rod Shelton) writes:

> Could anyone tell me, or point me in the right direction, on how to gate
> an internet mailing list into a local newsgroup?

It's in MANUAL.DOC :

   %  Diverting mail into Usenet

      alias  | post newsgroup

      Takes an incoming mail message, and diverts it into a
      newsgroup. Appropriate header munging is performed to allow
      the message to flow as news.

      This feature is mainly used to divert a mailing list into
      a local newsgroup, for users to read while not cluttering
      a mailbox. (DO NOT do this with mainstream Usenet newsgroups,
      people will become VERY upset).

      Another use of this feature is to allow people to post
      from a remote location.

      The Unix version of "| post" works only from within Waffle.

> Thanks for your time!

Better mine than yours, huh?


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From: jhm@hourglas.uucp (Jonathan Hulley-Miller)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: smart expire
Date: 7 Jan 93 00:01:18 GMT
Organization: Informatix BBS System - Ridgewood, NJ, USA

Does anyone have a smart expire program that could be used on news.answers to
only keep one copy of a FAQ ? Thanks.

Jonathan

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From: dalew@twiki.PDX.COM (Dale Weber)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 19:25:48 PST
Organization: Wafflemania Unlimited - Portland, OR USA

larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman) writes:

> I think you call that "Waffle". Waffle does all these things, and quite well!
> Maybe I miss the point of what you had in mind for an "offline mail and news 
> reader". If it is not Waffle itself, then what is it?

  It's something that *users* of a Waffle BBS can use to pack up and allow
them to download their current mail and news from newsgroups they subscribe
to.  A lot of people just don't want to go to the trouble of setting up
Waffle, finding a mail/news feed, and polling their host site to pick stuff
up.  This is where an offline reader/mail door comes into the picture.  The
mail door is the BBS part of the pair and the reader is the user part.

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From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: How to redirect output from ALIASES file?
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 09:34:24 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton) writes:
> 
> I was wondering how it would be possible to have an alias set up in
> the system/aliases file that would run a program but *direct the output
> to NUL*.  Currently I have it set up like:
> 
> special-user   | d:\waffle\bin\speclpgm.exe
> 
> When mail is sent to 'special-user' it causes the speclpgm.exe file
> to be executed.  Excellent.  But the program outputs a bunch of stuff
> out, which can be very annoying to a local user.  I would like to
> redirect the output to NUL to prevent this...but the following does
> *not* do the trick:
> 
> special-user   | d:\waffle\bin\speclpgm.exe > nul
> 
> Now, I suppose I could have a .BAT file execute instead, and the .BAT
> file would simply run the program with the redirection -- but my question
> is, how does Waffle get the input (the mail message) to the program...
> ie. how would I construct the .BAT file to call this program and still
> maintain the (already-handled) input redirection?
> 
Here is a thought.  Did you make this program yourself or are you using
someone else's program?  If you did, then the problem is more than likely
going to be the program doesn't write standard out.  If not, I'm not sure
what you can do.  Try redirecting to a file, and then delete the file after.

It's an idea.

Greg

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From: stanley@ruby.OCE.ORST.EDU (John Stanley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Offline Readers
Date: 12 Jan 93 20:18:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: gaia.1iv92rINNb4c
Organization: Coastal Imaging Lab, College of Oceanography
NNTP-Posting-Host: ruby.oce.orst.edu

In article <um55wB1w165w@coldbox.cojones.com> system@coldbox.cojones.com (Bryan Lockwood) writes:
>Like it or lump it, John, Waffle IS too complex for the ordinary "sometime
>user" to have to fool with. 

I guess I don't have the tendency to underestimate the intelligence of
the "ordinary" user.
From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Internet Mailing lists gated to local Newsgroup
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 14:23:01 EST
Organization: Berry Communications

roshne@faerun.mi.org (Rod Shelton) writes:

> Could anyone tell me, or point me in the right direction, on how to gate
> an internet mailing list into a local newsgroup?

From the FAQ List:

2. Can I gateway mail to news ?

        Absolutely.  You need to set up an alias in 'aliases' that
        looks something like the following:

        newsgroup-name  | post newsgroup.name

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                                        |  -- Homer Simpson
From: tcscs!zeta@src.honeywell.com (Gregory Youngblood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Why do I get empty batches?
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 01:36:58 CST
Reply-To: zeta%tcscs@src.honeywell.com
Organization: TCS Consulting Services

Quite frequently I've started getting a lot of 0 size files that I send
out to a news only system.  

Any ideas what I can do to stop this?
From: dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Problems with nwreader and helldiver
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 00:30:03 EST
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US (Lawrence T. Hardiman) writes:

> Tom, are you watching? Your documentation is excellent. You do have 
> an audience that you may not have anticipated: Waffle Add-On software 
> developers. For those of us who are making Waffle Add-Ons, could you 
> provide BNF specification for all your command languages: STATIC, 
> DIRS, NEWSGROUP files, etc...? This would remove all ambiguity when 
> we have to design interpreters for your commands.
> 
> We all understand BNF. Right? :-)

Sure.  You probably missed the LEX+YACC (FLEX+BYACC) development stuff
I posted some weeks back.  That was my own personal attempt to reverse-
engineer exactly what you seem to be asking for.  If you're interested,
I could send you a copy, pkzip/uuencoded.  It's not all that large.  My
stuff has the advantage of functioning the same on both SunOS and MS-DOS,
with minor changes to the makefile and a single header file.  Fully
tested on both the default (K+R) Sun C and the Borland 3.1 C compilers.

> 
> Regards,
>   larry
> 
> 
> --
> Larry@Birdsong.Suvl.CA.US


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From: bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: UUDECODE
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 19:21:13 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: 1776 Enterprises, Sudbury MA

Many thanks to the several Wafflers who helped me get UUDECODE running at my
site.  I appreciate it!

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Xref: sparky comp.bbs.waffle:5917 comp.mail.uucp:2526
From: mallman@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Mark Allman)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.mail.uucp
Subject: mail readers
Date: 6 Jan 93 21:00:39 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: /home/ace/a/mallman/.org

hello,
   i am currently using waffle for a personal mail/news site.  but, i have
a dislike for its news reader.  can someone suggest an add on which i
could use?  please respond via e-mail, as i dont often have time to read
this (or any other) newsgroup.

thanks.

mark

-- 

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              mallman@ace.cs.ohiou.edu * mallman@duce.cs.ohiou.edu
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From: system@coldbox.cojones.com (Bryan Lockwood)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Bufu?
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 93 03:46:40 AST
Organization: The Generation Gap

pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:

> Since you're
> in charge, it's up to you to decide what cookie submissions may or may
> not contain.  Therefore, "bufu" can be loosely translated as "that which
> the SYSTEM 0PERAT0R does not allow".
> 
> If, like me, you're running Waffle as a single-user mail-and-news
> program, you can include anything you smegging well want to in your
> cookies (except for |, of course).  If you do run it as a BBS, you will
> probably want to modify USER.DOC before you give it to users, and spell
> out exactly what you don't allow in cookie submissions: puns, lyrics
> from the Rocky Horror Picture Show, campaign slogans for Pat Robertson,
> or whatever ticks you off the most.  :-)

Another thing which CANNOT be made into a cookie is the word "bufu" by
itself. Try it and see.

-Bryan Lockwood (system@cojones.com)  (1@501 WWIVnet)
"Into the trough of digital overkill I dove, raucously snorting
  and oinking."
From: berk@techsys.mcws.fidonet.org (Berk Walker)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: 1.65 <-> 1.65 UUCICO lockups
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 08:59:03 PST
Organization: Private for Now

I have an interesting problem. I *really* like the new features of 1.65 - 
... except for one feature (**g?)  I sit between 2 other sites who also 
usually run 1.65 uucico, and ALL of us experience this:

The receiving site gags and dies when receiving a specific news batch.  
Just SysHang until coldboot (or speaker drives the iguana batty, or 
otherwise enjoying a computer vacation in Cleveland).  1.64 uucico CAN 
receive and digest the batch.  -k params have no affect.  The same batch 
may die at a different point in transfer, but will always fail, 1.65 - 
1.65.  

EMAIL - EMAIL - EMAIL

My feed on this newsgroup is blocked, so PLEASE email any workaround/fix 
for this problem.  A utility to convert 1.65 mailboxes to 1.64 would also 
be appreciated.

Thanks for any help.

Berk Walker                           berk@techsys.mcws.fidonet.org
From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Where can I get waffle?
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 93 03:14:20 EST
Organization: Berry Communications

dpb@sdchemw2.ucsd.edu (Doug P. Book) writes:

> We would like to try setting up a bbs wth Waffle, and I'm wondering
> where I could grab it by ftp or some other means.  I'm a Mac fan, and
> I'm not familiar with DOS ftp sites.

From the Waffle FAQ:

AVAILABILITY

1. How can I get Waffle by ftp ?

        Anonymous ftp:
        -------------

        Waffle (DOS version) is available via anonymous ftp from
        SIMTEL20 and its various mirror sites as follows:

        wsmr-simtel20.army.mil                  26.2.0.74
                pd1:<msdos.waffle>waf165.zip

        wuarchive.wustl.edu                     128.252.135.4
                /pub/mirrors/msdos/waffle/waf165.zip

        There are other SIMTEL20 mirror sites.  See the periodic postings
        in comp.binaries.ibm.pc.d and news.answers for more details.

2. What if I'm not on the Internet ?

        From the author's BBS:
        ---------------------
        The Dark Side of the Moon BBS      1.408.245.SPAM (7726) (Tom Dell)

        From SIMTEL20 and mirrors via mail-based-archive-servers:
        ---------------------------------------------------------
        A number of sites run archive-servers to give non-Internet folks
        the ability to do the equivalent of ftp-by-mail.

        If you do not have FTP access to SIMTEL20, files may be ordered by
        mail from:

           Internet-style:      listserv@vm1.nodak.edu
                                listserv@vm.ecs.rpi.edu

           UUCP-style:          uunet!vm1.nodak.edu!listserv
                                uunet!vm.ecs.rpi.edu!listserv

        Send this command to the server to get its help file:
                GET PDGET HELP

        NOTE: remember that if you request items from an archive-server
        via mail, that your traffic goes through every system between the
        server and you, and adds such load on each system.  Be courteous.

        There are a number of periodic postings in news.answers that tell
        how to get software via mail in far more detail than what is
        provided here.

        From other BBS sites:
        ---------------------
	Via mail:
		questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Steve Pershing):
			mail with text 'help' to username 'MailServer'

	Available for downloading:
		The Heart of Gold BBS
		+1 814 238-9633
		300-2400/v.32/v.32bis/ZyXEL 16.8k, free download on first call
		look in /file/ibm/bbs/waf*.zip

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**** Happy user of OS/2 2.0 ****        |  point of stuff like this."
                                        |  -- Homer Simpson
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Subject: Re: Validation problem
Keywords: validate files access
Organization: Penn State Computer Science
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:03:16 GMT

In article <C0CHK2.7zK@animal.er.bell.ca> squevill@stam.qe.bell.ca writes:
|This user (test) cannot access the files section, we get the message:
|
|14:45 (?=menu,bye=logoff) > files
|
|Validation is required to use the FILES section.
|
|If I try the same as a user that has Privilege level 9 it works!!

Make sure your /waffle/system/dirs file has an entry for the root files
directory ("files:" in the static file).

What happens if user "test" does, say, "files /pub/waffle" where "/pub/waffle"
is one of the subdirectories of the root file area?

[I guess this is going in the FAQ, as this is the third time I've answered the
question -- made the answer a lot more concise this time, too =)]

  Bill
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: VMSDOC20.ZIP retrival / Reply-To:
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 19:02:12 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

I sent away for VMSDOC20.ZIP and noticed something on the return
messages. I used a Reply-To: header in hopes the files would come back
via my Internet site neighbor rather than the way the maps like to route
my incoming mail.

It worked.. sort of. The uuencoded files appear to have been returned
using the From: header, went to uunet, and hit the maps. The transcript
message however was sent back according to my Reply-To: header. It makes
sense to me to use the Reply-To: header for returning files as well.
That kind of a glitch will keep me from requesting files from a VMS
server.



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Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: micke@qainfo.se (Micke Larsson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: expire with capability to produce digests
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 18:49:04 CET
Distribution: world
Organization: 14th Street BBS, Sweden

Hello,

I run a DOS Waffle 1.65 and I have a question:

for some newsgroups I would like to keep old news for future reference.
Is there an expire utility for DOS Waffle which can stuff away messages
to a file before they are being expired?

There is no problem taking files from a newsgroup and create a "digest".
The problem is to have it coordinated with expire.

Is there a simple solution or a utility? Anyone? Mathew?

By the way, is there someone out there who runs Waffle under Coherent?

Best regards,
Micke


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From: Jonathan Herr <herrj@valnet.vincennes.in.us>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle icon needed
Keywords: Waffle, Windows, icon
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 23:27:11 EST
Organization: WVCF, Vincennes, IN, USA

bob@1776.COM (Robert Coe) writes:

> > In <7iRSrAZJBh107h@carlos> carlos@carlos writes:
> > >Could anyone out there point out where I could find a suitable
> > >"waffle" icon for windows?
> 
> This reminds me of something I've been wondering about: how does one get the
> program that reassembles uuencoded files?  Obviously someone can't just mail
> you a uuencoded version of the program!  (Well, they could, but what could
> you do with it?)  Does someone have it available for nMODEM (n=X,Y,Z,...)
> download?  (Actually, in this case I'd settle for downloading the icon.)  :^)

I've wonder how some people get this myself.  I was fortunate to have
internet access on a campus machine when I started (no longer true),
and ftp'd it from one site to the campus machine and then downloaded
it.  I imagine that some other BBS might have it if there are enough
in your area.  I have since moved from school and was the only one
that had it for quite while in the area that I moved to.

If you need, you can call my BBS from 9pm - 7am EST.  The file is in
the /spool/public/wafutil directory, accessable from the files
section. 

See the sig below...

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From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: How to redirect output from ALIASES file?
Date: 4 Jan 93 07:55:24 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, Ontario, CANADA
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hello everyone:

I was wondering how it would be possible to have an alias set up in
the system/aliases file that would run a program but *direct the output
to NUL*.  Currently I have it set up like:

special-user   | d:\waffle\bin\speclpgm.exe

When mail is sent to 'special-user' it causes the speclpgm.exe file
to be executed.  Excellent.  But the program outputs a bunch of stuff
out, which can be very annoying to a local user.  I would like to
redirect the output to NUL to prevent this...but the following does
*not* do the trick:

special-user   | d:\waffle\bin\speclpgm.exe > nul

Now, I suppose I could have a .BAT file execute instead, and the .BAT
file would simply run the program with the redirection -- but my question
is, how does Waffle get the input (the mail message) to the program...
ie. how would I construct the .BAT file to call this program and still
maintain the (already-handled) input redirection?

Any help you can provide would be most appreciated.  Thanks in advance!

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From: pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Bufu?
Date: Tue, 05 Jan 93 17:00:04 EST
Organization: Berry Communications

system@coldbox.cojones.com (Bryan Lockwood) writes:

> pat@berry.Cary.NC.US (Pat Berry) writes:
> 
> > Since you're
> > in charge, it's up to you to decide what cookie submissions may or may
> > not contain.  Therefore, "bufu" can be loosely translated as "that which
> > the SYSTEM 0PERAT0R does not allow".
> 
> Another thing which CANNOT be made into a cookie is the word "bufu" by
> itself. Try it and see.

Yes, I've been informed that it also won't accept "oreo" or "list" by
themselves.  Apparently this is hard-coded into Waffle.  The logic of
this escapes me.

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Pat Berry - Cary, North Carolina, USA   |  "At least that's what *I* thought.
pat@berry.Cary.NC.US                    |  But I have a history of missing the
**** Happy user of OS/2 2.0 ****        |  point of stuff like this."
                                        |  -- Homer Simpson