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From: jfreem@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: To tattle, or not to tattle
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:16:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov8.210350.7696@mercury.cair.du.edu> elesatz@diana.cair.du.edu (Eric LeSatz) writes:
>In article <1992Nov8.172131.19988@ecsvax.uncecs.edu> jfreem@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman) writes:
>
>>What if they were running a crack house, molesting little kids
>>or ripping your other neighbors off?  You would be as low
>>as the people doing the deed if you didn't even anonomusly
>>help (at the least).  
>
>But what if you heard this on a cellular frequency? While they could
>probably bust the people you heard and reported, I would now think
>that you could either be sued or punished criminally. 

Ever hear of a pay phone, or an anonymous tip?  Then again, you'd
better be right if you're going to mess with someone's life.


>If someone ever does report something they heard on a cellular, I hope
>they are punished and sued. Will show how obsurd it is to have laws

I don't understand why'd you hope for that.


-- 
Joe Freeman	jfreem@uncecs.edu
		jfreeman@next.com (NeXT Mail)
The opinions espressed here are my own and are not shared by my employer  or
anyone else I know of.  Flames can be mailed to me or routed to /dev/null.
From: cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Whats between there?
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:54:34 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
> cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes:
> : aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith) writes:
> : > 
> : > Nothing at all, with the exception of UHF-TV audio.  Channel 21 is at
> : > 517.750 and the upper limit is channel 69 at 805.750.  If your city has a
> : > Federal Government Printing Bookstore, You can order a poster for $3.50
> : > that list the complete frequency alocation for the complete radio spectrum.
> : > 
> : > Scotty
> : 
> : I believe this is incorrect.  I'm reposting a list of users between 520-760Mhz
> : in the Illinois area.  It was originally posted by Bob Parnass.
> 
> I think all these are either television stations or television repeater. If
> so, then Scotty is right.
> 
> Bill

It appears that I was wrong, some of the names thru me off.  Pepsi-cola
bottlers, and the like.  But I was curious about one of them.  It's frequency
doesn't coincide with the 'even' 6Mhz spacing.

 648.2500     knfn928___rayho inc, rr
                        [rochelle] (govt rcds)  

I've also been told that some in-studio mike operate in this region, although
I'll bet they are extremely low power.


Brad Steinman
University of Toledo Computer Services
cscon0151@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: johnw@bluemoon.rn.com (John L. Wilkerson Jr.)
Subject: Re: best
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 04:34:20 EST

as_radfo@csd.uwe.ac.uk (AS Radford) writes:

> In article <1992Nov5.2571.1826@dosgate> "david toste" <david.toste@canrem.com
> >Ok here is an other one:
> >This one I got off a friend.
> >
> >He was listening to the cordless stuff, show it off to a friend of this,
> >the scanner stoped and they started to listen in, it was a guy and gal,
> >and from what he could get was that they where talking about the big
> >night before, motels, whip cream, (you get the idea), so my friend
> >decided to give her a call, he got here number afew weeks back when she
> >called for a pizza, so it goes like this.
> >
> >She: Hold a sec John my other line.
> >Click
> >Friend: Hi there how are you feeling? A little sore?
> >She: Who is this?!
> 
> ... etc., in sickening detail
> 
> 
> Ugh!  This almost persuades me that the ban could be justified after all.
> It's guys like you that cause grief for the whole hobby.  Yuk!
> 
> 
 
     yeah.... I'm all for /monitoring/, but doing a crazy stunt such as 
that..... GAWD.   It could qualify as aggrivated menacing... I believe a 
Felony in Ohio.
 
     I could /almost/ justify playing a game on some pervert who calls up 
women in the middle of the night, talking dirty to them.   Interfering 
with an innocent couple like that though is absolutely unethical.
 

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From: rja@newbirth.Eng.Sun.COM (Robert Allen)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: PRO 2006
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:34:43 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: newbirth

In article <1992Nov4.225554.5724@prism.poly.edu> szhu@prism.poly.edu (Shu Bin Zhu) writes:
>I just purchased a PRO 2006 recently.  After I opened the box, it has the
>scanner, an antenna, and a manual.
>
>I am new to the scanner, and have no idea in how to use most of the functions.
>If you have any experience with this scanner, please give me some hint.

    You really should purchase some frequency guides for your local
    area, often available at local ham-radio stores, or Radio Shack.

    I've also included a basic guide below.
>
>I also need to know how to test this unit to see if everything works.
>
>
>The problem I have right now is:
>1), most conversations I receive is only one way. Did I do someting wrong here?

    Depending on what frequencies you are listening to, and how your
    local area uses frequencies, you may be listening to a simplex channel,
    where the other half of the conversation is on another frequency.
    Cordless phones can be this way, as can cellular (if you were listening
    to it, which would be illegal), as can certain police bands.

>2), what does the squech do? 

    Squelch allows the scanner to scan until it finds a frequency in
    use.  If you had the squelch too low, the scanner would lock on
    to the hiss of a channel not in use.  Squelch allows you to ignore
    channels which have a weak signal and only scan for stronger signals,
    based on how much squelch you are using.  The control "squelches"
    weak signal reception.
--
Robert Allen, rja@sun.com		DISCLAIMER: I said it, not my company.
		    Samuel Addams: Brewer, Patriot.															        "The right to brew beer is the right to be free!" - me
Xref: sparky alt.radio.scanner:2641 misc.legal:19775
From: crisp@netcom.com (Richard Crisp)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner,misc.legal
Subject: Re: Best of Transmissions......
Date: 11 Nov 92 01:48:14 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <1992Nov10.220653.7713@samba.oit.unc.edu> Kirk.Smith@launchpad.unc.edu (Kirk Smith) writes:
>A YEAR in jail for the first offense?  I take it that this means it's a
>felony to listen to a cordless phone call?  Yikes.  I'm finding my good
>old State of California to be much less enlightened than I'd thought.
>
>-KS


Just remember: the more "progressive and enlightened" a state is
seems to mean the fewer rights you have. Here in the "Peoples Republic
of California", many folks are considering moving to the former Soviet
Union in order to have more rights!

-- 
Richard Crisp                 Cupertino, Ca.                crisp@netcom.com
(415) 903-3832 wk  "no more incumbents in the congress"   (408) 253 4541 fax

"one useless man is a disgrace, two are a law firm, and three?
The beginning of a Congress" -anonymous from the Internet.
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: jfreem@ecsvax.uncecs.edu (Joe Freeman)
Subject: Re: To tattle, or not to tattle
Followup-To: usa
Organization: UNC Educational Computing Service
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:14:03 GMT

In article <1dm5t0INNg8d@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> metalj@concerts.EBay.Sun.COM writes:
>
>
>	Mind your OWN buisness!!!! Don't be a snoopy poopy SNITCH!!!
It seems like scanning is kind of NOT minding your own buisness to
begin with.  

-- 
Joe Freeman	jfreem@uncecs.edu
		jfreeman@next.com (NeXT Mail)
The opinions espressed here are my own and are not shared by my employer  or
anyone else I know of.  Flames can be mailed to me or routed to /dev/null.
From: randall@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Michael Randall)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Cellular Mod Re-request:BC 950XLT
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:20:35 GMT
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

In article <108350003@hpcvra.cv.hp.com>, johna@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (John Allen) writes:
> I haven't received a response on my request for instructions on the cellular
> mod on the BC 950XLT.  Help! Anyone?
> 
> John Allen
> johna@hpcvra.CV.HP.COM

If you are (as it appears to me) asking for help in monitoring Cellular
Phone Frequencies, I'm sure no-one wants to be an accessory to a crime.
-- 
  Michael W. Randall           | What does a snail say when it rides on the
  randall@bcstec.ca.boeing.com | back of a turtle? "Wheeee!"
   ...!uunet!bcstec!randall    | --Taken from someone on The Comedy Channel
From: bry@wpi.WPI.EDU (Bryant Nelson Obando)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Frequencies
Date: 11 Nov 92 19:42:24 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

Does anyone have the frequencies for campus police and maintenance crews in
Massachusetts?  Any ideas?  Much thanks for any help that you can provide...

bry@wpi.wpi.edu
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From: cmorford@umbio.med.miami.edu (Chuck Morford)
Subject: Interesting Freqs Wanted
Organization: Gene Police - Intelligence Division
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 04:06:12 GMT

Hi all,
    I'm new to scanning and was wondering if anyone would post a list of 
"general interest" freqs...If anyone has any specifics about the Miami area
they would be greatly appreciated...
-- 
*****************************************************************************
* cmorford@umbio.med.miami.edu * "186,000 miles per second. Not just a good *
*                              *  idea, it's the law!"                      *
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From: adam@cbmcats.UUCP (Adam Keith Levin-Delson)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Uniden Scanner revisions/manufacture dates?
Date: 9 Nov 92 20:37:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Commodore Applications and Technical Support

In article <1992Nov06.220053.24256@mixcom.com> kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com (kevin.jessup) writes:

>Also, there is a date of manufacture code on the back of my 200xlt.
>Does anyone know how to interpret the code??
>
>BTW, the date code is "0F1B".

I'll bet that's an 'I', not a '1'.

The first two characters represent the month and the last two the
year of manufacture.  'F' is the sixth letter of the alphabet,
'I' the ninth, and 'B' the second, making the date of manufacture
of your scanner June (the sixth month) of `92.

Adam Levin-Delson  CATS - Commodore Applications and Technical Support
UUCP: {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!adam domain: adam@cbmvax.cbm.commodore.com
BIX: aklevin   mail: 1200 Wilson Drive / West Chester, PA 19380 USA
voice: +1 215.431-9180   fax: +1 215.429-0643
From: vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: To tattle, or not to tattle
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:42:46 GMT
Organization: General Motors Research Labs
In-reply-to: metalj@concerts.EBay.Sun.COM's message of 9 Nov 92 21:18:38 GMT

In article <1dmkjeINNhim@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> metalj@concerts.EBay.Sun.COM (Jerry Watson ) writes:

   >>>It seems like scanning is kind of NOT minding your own buisness to
   >>begin with.


	   Yes, very true!! Actually this is the point
	   I'm trying to DON`T BE A SNOOPY POOPY SNITCH!!! 
	   If they aren't hurting you, don't bother them and
	   leave thier life alone.

One of the things that some folks miss from "the good old days" was
the way that neighbors looked out for one another.  It took many forms,
from preparing a dish for an invalid to investigating suspicious things
while a neighbor was away.  

Somewhere among the unwritten code of the neighborhood was the the 
responsibility to keep an eye on one another's children.  If they were
seen doing something questionable, their parents were notified.  If it
was something illegal, the police were notified.

The crime rate was lower then.  

I believe it was for the same reason that criminals prefer to do their
work in secret.  The certainty of detection and prosecution is the 
single greatest deterrent to crime.  

I believe that people ought to be rewarded for disclosing criminal 
acts, whether those seen with their eyes or heard with their ears.

-val-
--

Val Breault - GM Research - vbreault@gmr.com - N8OEF
Instrumentation dept., 30500 Mound Rd., Warren, MI 48090-9055
The opinions expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect 
those of GMR or those of the General Motors Corporation.
 

From: johna@hpcvra.cv.hp.com (John Allen)
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 20:40:13 GMT
Subject: Cellular Mod Re-request:BC 950XLT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Co., Corvallis, OR, USA
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner

I haven't received a response on my request for instructions on the cellular
mod on the BC 950XLT.  Help! Anyone?

John Allen
johna@hpcvra.CV.HP.COM

Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: mayer@access.digex.com (David)
Subject: Success Story: Pro-43 Mod
Organization: Express Access Public Access UNIX, Greenbelt, Maryland USA
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 04:07:37 GMT

Today I got brave and opened up a $300+ radio and took a soldering iron 
to its insides.  I am happy to report that all went well and the cellular 
and low band restorations worked as advertised!!

As others have posted, the modification is not as hard as it was trumped 
up to be.  I found no reason to desolder the antenna connector from the 
top circuit board: I was able to remove both screws from the middle 
board with the top one in place.  This allowed me to remove both top 
boards as a unit.  (I did have to bend a side metal plate outward just a little to 
access one of the screws).  

Then, instead of completely desoldering the metal shield that covers the 
microprocessor on the bottom board, I desoldered the lower to posts and 
gently bent it up to expose the row of diodes.  (Very little solder aspiration 
was needed, which made later resoldering easy).  Note: modification directions 
posted here have incorrectly stated that the diode was "above" the micro-
processor.  This is not correct.  Holding the unit upright, the diodes of 
interest are below the microprocessor.  Desolder the shield's _lower_ 
posts for access to them.

The tricky part, of course, was working with the diode.  I have no 
experience with microsoldering, and had never seen a component as 
small as that diode!  I used a pair of tweezers to gently lift each side up 
as I unsoldered it.  Again, very little aspiration was required.  Using the 
tweezers, I then positioned it in the new location and soldered it in 
place using solder drops already present on the board.

Then I packaged it all up.  I applied a little bit more solder to the posts of 
the microprocessor shield and screwed the boards back in place.  This 
required some patience because it took trial and error to relocate one of the 
screws on the middle board.  

A check confirmed both new bands work correctly.  The radio seems 
especially sensitive in the 870-890 MHz range, probably due in part to 
the short rubber ducky antenna.  In summary, the mod is not hard.  Just 
be gentle and make sure you have tweezers and a set of small precision 
screw drivers before you start.  It took me less than half an hour.

--David
From: randall@bcstec.ca.boeing.com (Michael Randall)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: ** THE FUTURE OF SCANNING? **
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:43:12 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Boeing Computer Services, Seattle

In article <1992Nov10.184010.224@hsh.com>, paul@hsh.com writes:
> It's already happening.  In my town -- a relatively small town, in north NJ -
> - the police scramble their conversations on what they cryptically (get it?) 
> call "Channel Two."  I have been debating opening up this can of worms at a 
> Town Council meeting, to find out their justification.  I have little hope of 
> getting them to stop it, never mind that it's a public agency using public 
> airwaves (oh, don't get me started).  About 1/4 of all transmissions are
> scrambled -- and it's hardly a National Security situation, in such a small
> place.  Gets one to wondering what kind of stuff they *really* discuss? 
> 
>  Paul Havemann, VP          HSH Associates            (201) 838-3330 
[cut down version]

I know one of the reasons, they want to be able to talk insultingly about
the people they stop/apprehend/watch/whatever without the worry of a
lawsuit. I remember one night several years ago when my youngest was a baby,
I had dropped my wife off for a meeting in a small town in Western
Washington. The kids usually fell asleep when we drive with them and since
it wasn't going to take long enough to be worth me going home and coming
back, I just drove around town to get the kids to sleep. While driving,I saw
the Police stop someone (two Police cars). Curious to what was happening, I
stopped a half block away and looked up their frequency in a guidebook, just
in time to tune in and hear them bad-mouthing me (based on the description
of my vehicle), and one accused me of being someone who they had arrested
for "Playing Cop" a few months before. Well, I got pretty mad (I was still
young then), and I drove over to the station and cussed out one of the Cops,
and explained who I was, why I was there, etc. And this Cop is shining his
flashlight in the backseat in my kids faces (ages 6mo & 2yr), and so I
cussed him out for that too. 

Well, I rambled a  bit there, but that's my example of why the Cops want to
scramble their radio traffic. Another reason it to be able to sneak up on a
house that they intend to do their drug raid thing on.
-- 
  Michael W. Randall           | What does a snail say when it rides on the
  randall@bcstec.ca.boeing.com | back of a turtle? "Wheeee!"
   ...!uunet!bcstec!randall    | --Taken from someone on The Comedy Channel
From: n9020351@henson.cc.wwu.edu (James Douglas Del-Vecchio)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: To tattle, or not to tattle
Date: 10 Nov 92 05:29:38 GMT
Organization: Western Washington University

vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault) writes:

>I believe that people ought to be rewarded for disclosing criminal 
>acts, whether those seen with their eyes or heard with their ears.

And if scanners are made illegal, will you be happy when one of
your neighbors informs on you, like you advocate?

I think not.

Jim Del Vecchio
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner

Re- Tattling

If it's serious and you want to protect your identity, go to a pay
phone and call the anonymous tip line. Many towns have such 
confidential means of cluing the cops in. 

Just don't do it for trivial reasons. Help the cops concentrate on
the bad guys.

Ron

Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: To tattle, or not to tattle
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 08:36:08 GMT

calley@optilink.UUCP (Chris Calley) writes:
: > 
: > If they were molesting people, or robbing people - then certainly.
: > They are then harming other people. They are not doing so by running
: > a crack house.
: > 
: I believe that you are incorrect.  Furnishing crack cocaine to someone is 
: not only harming the buyer, but indirectly diminishing the quality of life
: for those in that neighborhood, and for us taxpayers as a whole.  Who pays
: when a crack addict ends up at the county hospital from an o.d.?  In the
: long run, it's you and me in the form of ever higher health care costs and
: taxes.

You may pay it, if the person does not have insurance. If they have 
insurance, you pay part of it in your own insurance premiums. I also
pay for people who have swimming pools and end up with someone drowning
in it. I pay for people who burn themselves while cooking on gas stoves,
or slip in a bathtub/shower. I pay for the person who eats too many      
saturated fats and sugars, thereby having a heart attack. It is one
of the prices of semi-socialized medicine.

If you want to get rid of the overdoses - campaign to have the drugs
legalized. Then they could be sold in regulated size doses. This would
eliminate most of the ods - which are generally accidental.

: In one sense, when you eavesdrop on someones _private_ conversation, you
: become a party to that conversation and are therefore responsible for
: what you here.  If you condone the illegal actions of those you are 
: eavesdropping on, by all means DON'T turn them in.  But, if you believe that
: what they are doing is wrong, then be true to your convictions and report
: them to whoever.  But what you should not do is hide your head in the
: sand and pretend you didn't hear anything at all.  Or even worse, try to
: rationalize that what they are doing is not actually harming anyone.  That
: is an old argument that circumvents the real issue of right and wrong.

No - it addresses the question of what is moral/immoral. Nothing more.
Just because something is illegal does not make it wrong.

: If you don't want to take responsibility for what you may hear, then 
: don't eavesdrop on private conversations.

I don't anyway - the conversations are too boring.

Bill
From: metalj@concerts.EBay.Sun.COM (Jerry Watson )
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: FAQ`s
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:06:08 GMT
Reply-To: metalj@concerts.EBay.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems
NNTP-Posting-Host: concerts.ebay.sun.com



Keywords: 



	Does this group have any FAQ's??

	If so can you please send them to me.

	Thx

	Jerry
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From: parnass@cbnewse.cb.att.com (Bob Parnass, AJ9S)
Subject: Re: 205XLT
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 1992 12:50:18 GMT
Summary: 205xlt almost same as 200xlt

In article <1992Jun17.040644.19942@uwm.edu>,
arsic@cs.uwp.edu (Dragan Arsic) writes:

> ..... So, please tell me what the hack is the
> difference:-). The big difference is in price if you are buying from Scanner
> World (NY?): 200XLT is $279.90, and 205XLT is 239.99. So now whichone should I
> buy, and what is the dam difference????? 

Except for one or two components, and the color of the leather case
and plastic cabinet, the 200xlt and 205xlt are the same.

The 205xlt was made for Scanner World, a distributor about which
some posters have recently complained.

You might consider getting a 200xlt from Grove Enterprises,
140 Dog Branch Rd, Brasstown, NC  -  ph: 704-837-9200
Grove will buy it back if there's a problem.
-- 
==============================================================================
Bob Parnass, AJ9S - AT&T Bell Laboratories - att!ihlpm!parnass - (708)979-5414

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From: kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com (kevin.jessup)
Newsgroups: alt.radio.scanner
Subject: Re: Back to best radio transmissions
Date: 13 Nov 92 01:16:05 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Milwaukee Internet Xchange BBS, Milwaukee, WI U.S.A.

Any favorite slang used by the police in your area?

Here in Milwaukee, the hamburger chain Burger King is
frequently held up.  The dispatchers call it "Burgler King!"

An individual using a spray-can for graffiti is called a "Rembrandt".

-- 
Kevin Jessup, kevin.jessup@mixcom.mixcom.com

        "Friends don't let friends run DOS."
                          -- Microware