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From: tap1040@venus.tamu.edu (SPEED RACER)
Subject: Re: Cowboys vs. Lions
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 16:54:00 GMT

In article <55062@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, bubba@mace.cc.purdue.edu (Gary Beason) writes...
> 
>Can anyone explain why Dallas never adjusted their defense against the
>Lions after halftime in the playoff game? 
>

I'm not exactly sure, but I suspect that they may have had Barry
Sanders-phobia.  Either that, or Jimmy Johnson was just outcoached in
that game as Joe Gibbs was in the second game against the Cowboys.

> 
>I know it's still early in the preseason, but is there any talk of
>Dallas making trades, particularly with defensive linemen where they
>seem richest?  Jeffcoat might not be a bad offer for a trade.

I have heard nothing about any trades, but given J.J.'s past habit of
getting rid of the older players, I would not be surprised to see Jeffcoat
gone if Chad Hennings or one of the others really comes through this year.

> 
>Quasi-football News:
> 
>I heard about a year ago that Roger had set up some "offices" in D.C.
>Is there truth to rumors that he might go into politics there in
>Texas?  Is he even doing anything remotely political?
> 

Well I haven't heard anything about any of this so I'll leave it for
someone else.  Although I think he was doing some investment counseling
for a while.


>What is Tom doing these days?  Is he still refusing a place on the
>ring of honor?
> 

Tom Landry is head of the Tom Landry Investment Group and is part owner
of the San Antonio Riders of the WLAF.  (Tom Jr. also owns a part.)


>I also had read that they are considering covering the roof and
>renaming the stadium after Tom.  Is it true that the stadium, because
>of the open roof, has an average Jan-Feb temperature that is too for a
>superbowl?  
> 

The rumour that they are going to cover the stadium has been around for
years and surfaced at various times.  The rumour about the stadium being
named for Tom has been around since the J.J.'s took over.


>Tell me Bradshaw will never again be a tv commentator for a Dallas
>game.  Hey, Terry, spell jerk--j-e-r . . . .


AMEN!

________________________________________________________________________________

                                 -SPEED RACER-                    
                                     Tracy      
                              Texas A&M University
				   WHOOP!!!!

John Madden: "There's a good sign.  Troy Aikman putting his pants back on."
Pat Sommerall: "That's ALWAYS a good sign."
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From: curt@OCE.ORST.EDU (Curt Vandetta)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Rison looking at the NBA?
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:06:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: talon.1992Jul22.190601.25767
Organization: College of Oceanography, Oregon State Univ


  Query to Atlanta fans or anyone else who stayed up late a couple
  nights ago and caught the same sports segment that I saw.  Apperently
  CNN or ESPN (I was clicking back and forth and don't remember which
  one I was on) reported that Andre "Bad Moon" Rison was making $350,000
  this year, and was a might be preturbed when the Falcons offered 
  $1 Million to Sanders to report to camp early and work out with the
  offense.  They showed a clip of Rison playing Basketball at whatever
  college he attended and mentioned that he was considering persueing
  his options in the NBA if the Falcons weren't serious about paying him
  more money.

  I'm supprised I haven't seen anything about it on the Net, there seems
  to be a lot of Falcons posts.  Anyone got the whole or real story?

  Thanks,
  Curt
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From: jsandler@encore.com (Jeff Sandler)
Subject: Re: Bobby Humphrey
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:19:00 GMT

tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes:

[Stuff about Vincent and Coleman deleted]

>According to this mornings paper Jones has made an interesting offer
>to both players agents. If they sign now, he'll agree to take an
>average of the three players drafted before and after each, and raise
>their salaries if their contract does not meet that average once all
>the rookies are signed. The agents of both players have refused the
>offer.

>Tony (go new england) Travaglini
>tech@cs.ucf.edu

As I understood it, that offer was made to Vincent, but not to Coleman..
Of course, I could be wrong.

But the Vincent offer was at least a week ago.  The last thing I heard
about the current offer is that his 'advisers' wanted to see it in writing,
and were waiting for the fax to get there..and would not comment until
they got it.


--
Jeff Sandler                            |   Go Florida State Seminoles!
jsandler@encore.com                     |   Go Mets! (Until Marlins start)
Encore Computer Corp.; Plantation, FL   |   Go Dolphins!     Go Heat!

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From: wkirkpat@javelin.sim.es.com (WCK)
Subject: Re: player statistics (archive)
Reply-To: wkirkpat@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 22:31:54 GMT

eanderso@zeus.calpoly.edu (Eric W. Anderson "ERK") writes:

>Does anybody know if there are end of year statistics on archive
>anywhere.

>thanks,

>ERK

>-- 
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>                                  -\<,                                     
>    Eric Anderson (ERKMAN)      (*)/(*)     eanderso@eros.calpoly.edu (AIX)
>____________________________/^^^^^^^^^^^^^\____________________________________

I would also bo enlightned with this info,should anyone care to dump it!!!
                                                  -wade-
-- 
"I'd vote for him,just to see what this bonehead would do"D.letterman on perot
 Let me say I am some say anyway a vary poor speller, I know what you are.....
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"If you want us to quit smoking crack give us back our pot"S.kennison.........
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Cowboys and Oilers scrimmage in Houston
Date: 27 Jul 92 00:19:10 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

I travelled down I-35 yesterday to see the Cowboys and the Oilers
scrimmage in San Antonio.  They are going at it again tonight right
here in Austin, but I have to be at work :^(.

Anyway, since it was just a scrimmage, there isn't a whole lot of
things to say.  The two outstanding players, IMHO, were Hennings and
Kevin Smith (it was mostly Houston offense and Dallas defense; in
fact, Emmitt never played a down).

Hennings had three sacks, which is less impressive when you consider
that you only had to touch the quarterback to get a sack.  It's more
impressive, though, when you realize that the Cowboys had everyone
out there at some point, so playing time was limited; plus, Hennings
evidently forgot about the "touch but don't tackle" rule, and put Moon
into the turf on his first sack.  Hennings was less impressive, though,
on running plays, and got pushed back on his heels several times.  If
he makes it, I have a feeling it will be as a passing down rusher, to
utilize his speed to the max.  Then again, he has the talent and the
ability to be an every-down kind of guy; it's just a question of how
long it takes.

Kevin Smith was very impressive, IMHO.  He played well on both passing
and running downs, putting very tight coverage on his man, breaking
up some passes, and making a pretty spectacular one-handed interception.
He showed very good instincts in coming up to the ball on running plays,
too.  They also had him returning a few punts, which seemed strange (he
fumbled one, too).

In general, the Cowboys seemed to be able to put pressure on the
quarterback more successfully than they have in recent years.  That
could just be a result of not having Houston's first string OL out there
all the time, so I am holding back my optimism for now.
----
Daniel Welch

What should he do?  Should have been a rock star,
But he didn't have the money for a guitar.
What should he do?  Should have been a politician,	Kate Bush,
But he never had a proper education.			"Army Dreamers"
What should he do?  Should have been a father,
But he never even made it to his twenties --
What a waste, army dreamers.
From: alle@cbnewse.cb.att.com (patterson.a.england)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: 1992 NFL Schedule Needed
Keywords: nfl, schedule, 1992
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:56:07 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

Someone may already have posted this, but I need an on-line copy of
the 1992 NFL schedule.  If someone, has it, could they please send
it to me (or post it otherwise) at:

att!ihlpf!alle

Thanks!

Al England, att!ihlpf!alle
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Re: Vincent vs Buckley (Re: Packer depth chart starters)
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 29 JUL 92 21:53:11    

In article <1992Jul29.180615.1436@doug.cae.wisc.edu>, saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders) writes...

>In article <1992Jul29.154452.6311@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
> 
>Green Bay messed up a few years ago when they could have drafted Ronnie
>Lott, but they passed him up.  I think they see Buckley as a Ronnie Lott
>type of player, and they don't want to make the same mistake twice.

Oh, I don't think they gave that any thought.  I think this is the 2nd 
new staff since then.

>Vincent, albeit a multi-talented player, does not seem to be the vocal
>team-leader type of player that they think Buckley is.  But as you astutely
>point out, this question can really be answered well in 2-3 years.
>Hindsight is always 20/20.  :^)

Yeah, but I don't expect Wolf and Holmgren to have 20-20 foresight.  
I'd be happy with 20-40 or 20-60.  But I don't expect 20-200 either.  
:-)

JGH
From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - UCS Network Systems)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Bills news...go figure
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:49:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul21.134523.6437@cs.ucf.edu>, tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes...
>In article <BrpLzv.1zC@acsu.buffalo.edu> evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - UCS Network Systems) writes:
>>
>>BTW, watch out for the Patriots this year. They are going to be the 
>>surprise team of the AFC. I wouldn't be at all surprised if they
>>swept the Bills this year.
> 
>Hmmm.... With the Fins sweep that means the jills practically enter
>the season with four losses. It's going to be a really good season
>Doug. Can I send you a Dolphins t-shirt or something??
> 
>Tony (go new england) Travaglini
>tech@cs.ucf.edu

I missed you too, Tony.

:)

                                     |                              Doug Evans
                                     | State University of New York at Buffalo
                                     |             evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Tuesday, 21 Jul 1992 10:31:27 EDT
From: <BFANTLE@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Tampa Bay Buccaneers?
Distribution: usa
 <1992Jul21.041750.13061@hubcap.clemson.edu>

I am too a DIEHARD BUC fan.  Have been sice the beginning. I was at Tampa Stadi
um when they beat the Cardinals 17-7 for their first home win ever.  Gary Huff
was quarterbacking.  I remember sitting in the rain watching as they beat the C
heifs 3-0 to clinch the NFC central.  What memories.  I have taken shit about t
hem for years now. Every year a have great hopes.  This year i think they might
 be fulfilled.  I am really excited about Wyche.  I am much happier about him t
han I would have been about Bill 'Boring' Parcells.
Did you all know that this year Vinny is wearing contact lenses  designed to he
lp him see better?  He is colorblind.  Hopefully he will at least play okay thi
s year.

GO BUCS

Barry
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Rison looking at the NBA?
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:13:38 GMT
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

In article <1992Jul22.190601.25767@talon.ucs.orst.edu> curt@OCE.ORST.EDU (Curt Vandetta) writes:
>
>  offense.  They showed a clip of Rison playing Basketball at whatever
>  college he attended and mentioned that he was considering persueing
>  his options in the NBA if the Falcons weren't serious about paying him
>  more money.
>
>  I'm supprised I haven't seen anything about it on the Net, there seems
>  to be a lot of Falcons posts.  Anyone got the whole or real story?
>
Even if Andre is serious, and I doubt its more than a threat, he has
no leverage. He's just not that good at basketball. In college at 
Michigan St. he played a little hoops, but he wasn't nearly good enough
to play in the NBA. For one thing he's under 6 foot, and not a good
shooter, and not all that good with the ball either.

Its just a ploy to get more money from Atlanta IMHO>



Russ Smith
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From: mas@aero.org (Marcus A.Shaw)
Subject: Re: Cowboys?
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation, El Segundo, CA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 19:17:34 GMT

In article <exujeff.9.711999916@exu.ericsson.se> exujeff@exu.ericsson.se (Jeff Thompson) writes:
>> Being a Dallas transplant I can see why you would have that feeling.
>> My feeling is that Troy is another Danny White, another Tommy Kramer,	
>> He can't get the job done....
>> The same can be said for Elway, but at least he got there.
>just a theory.
>Any Vikings news?
>
Another Danny White??

I will assume you meant that with a negative connotation.  Let me give
you some info on Danny White:

1) He led an aging Dallas Team to 3 straight NFC championship games.
Granted, he didn't get one win, but the team has to take some
responsibility.  If Troy can do anything approaching this, I will be
more than a happy Cowboys fan.

2) He had a higher QB rating (career) than Roger Staubach, and was the
NFL's highest career rated passer (with enough attempts) until the
advent of Marino and more importantly Joe Montana.  His rating still
gets him into the top 15, and maybe even the top ten best of all time.
Say what you will about ratings and their validity, but they do show
SOME sense of accomplishment.  Troy will do well to post those kinds
of numbers.

take care

*ice*
From: aa05@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (ABDULMALIK A. ALHUSSEINI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Cowboys training camp [4. TE's]
Date: 25 Jul 92 19:36:14 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

The less informed fans will appreciate it if the more informed fans supply
info. about the TE's in camp:

    (1) Paycheck Novacek... is he still holding?

    (2) A. Roberts... he is a good blocker. Are they planing to envolve him in
    the passing game?

    (3) F. Wacasey... this rookie is huge (6-7 244). I hope his playing
    ability is as big as his size. How good are his hands? Is he a good
    blocker?

    (4) any other prospects?

Thanks.... AAA....
From: kennedy@asuvax.eas.asu.edu (Ralph Kennedy)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Spreads
Date: 23 Jul 1992 22:34:41 GMT
Organization: Arizona State Univ, Tempe

davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu (David Rex Wood) writes:
> Sorry to those of you who wanted spreads, I hope you will stay in the
> pool anyway.

     Nah, I think I'll just wait for Ed to come
back and run the same pool he does every year.

     I don't see why we need a new pool anyway.
And if point spreads aren't used, you might as
well guess whether Godzilla is going to beat
Bambi; it would be just about as interesting.

--Ralph Kennedy      {ames,gatech,husc6,rutgers}!ncar!noao!asuvax!kennedy
                        {allegra,decvax,ihnp4,oddjob}--^
                                          ^---------------The Wrong Choice
                             internet: kennedy@asuvax.asu.edu
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From: robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day)
Subject: Need favorite team survey results
Organization: control_centers
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:18:54 GMT

Hi there,

    I seem to have missed the results of the favorite 
team survey.  Could someone email me these results?

Thanks,

Rob

robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com
From: rfedkiw@sepulveda.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Buffalo Bills
Date: 27 Jul 92 03:00:33 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department

WEEK 1   Rams @ Buf  WIN   1-0
WEEK 2   Buf @ SF    LOSS  1-1
WEEK 3   Ind @ Buf   WIN   2-1
WEEK 4   Buf @ NE    WIN   3-1 (Pivotal game in early season)
WEEK 5   Mia @ Buf   WIN   4-1
WEEK 6   Buf @ Rdrs  LOSS  4-2
WEEK 7   Buf Idle    BYE   4-2
WEEK 8   Buf @ NYJ   WIN   5-2 (Big game)
WEEK 9   NE @ Buf    WIN   6-2
WEEK 10  Pitt @ Buf  WIN   7-2
WEEK 11  Buf @ Mia   SPLIT 8-2  (or 7-3) (see week 16)
WEEK 12  Atl @ Buf   WIN   9-2  (or 8-3)
WEEK 13  Buf @ Ind   WIN   10-2 (or 9-3)
WEEK 14  NYJ @ Buf   WIN   11-2 (or 10-3)
WEEK 15  Den @ Buf   WIN   12-2 (or 11-3)
WEEK 16  Buf @ NO    SPLIT 12-3          (see week 11)
WEEK 17  Buf @ Hou   LOSS  12-4 (unless Buffalo NEEDS it: 13-3)

... of course they always win one they should lose and lose one
they should win.

If things were perfect, they could pick up one more early
against SF or Raiders and/or pick up both games on the split.
Of course, either of the above two would probably confirm a
loss to Houston unless. Perfect season: 14-2
If things don't go very well they could drop both games on
the split and go 11-5.

99% probability for playoffs
75% probability to be in the AFC title game
50% probability to be in Super Bowl
25% probability to win Super Bowl

By the way I was in Las Vegas a few weeks ago
and the odds on buffalo to win the AFC title were 2 to 1.
This means Vegas gives them a 33% chance, but I gave them 50%.
(sounds reasonable)

Watch out for the Raiders and Houston this year.
They could be spoilers.
Although Buffalo will probably never play them,
                 ... KC and Denver could be playoff dangers.
                (but I doubt it)

Any other AFC fans (especially in the East),
have any courage to post preseason predictions????

(no e-mail please)

(If your a NFC fan there is no need to respond to this,
I'm conceding a 75% probability that your team will win,
plus I'm giving you the SF game and the above SPLIT will
probably go to NO, as opposed to Miami.
As far as Rams and Atlanta games, you gotta be dreaming
if your going to argue those)


--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu)

A plan is made by someone who is sitting and thinking ...
while others are doing.
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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Re: Seattle News
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 21:38:03 GMT

In article <1453rnINNd9l@agate.berkeley.edu> rege@bongo.Berkeley.EDU (Ashutosh G. Rege) writes:
>In article <4693@sumax.seattleu.edu> jorgand@sumax.seattleu.edu (Dave Jorgan) writes:
> 
> >********** RB: If Seattle had a franchise tailback, then their problems at
> >QB would be greatly reduced, because the ground game would take pressure
> >off the QB. But, they have no clear cut quality RB. They have high hopes for
> >Rueben Mayes, but Flores admitted that Mayes did not look as quick in minicamp
>
>  This had to be one of the more dumb-ass trades. Mayes had _retired_
>  for Pete's sake! Seattle gave up way too much to the 'Aints.
>  Btw, how come you don't mention JL when ti comes to Seattle RB's ?
>
> 
>
>    I think Flores is going to prove that Chuck Knox is a magician when
>    it comes to making something out of virtually nothing.
>
>
>    Ashu
>

Am I missing something or is Derrick Fenner no longer a Seahawk? If he is still
with the team why is he not regarded as a quality RB? I've been impressed with
his running ability, am I the only one? I know one thing I'd love to see the
guy in a Dolphins uniform. I don't know why Seahawks fans on the net don't
talk about Fenner. Did he die or something? Inquisitive minds want to know.

John
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The opinions expressed here are sole property of the author and are not
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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: LOOKING FOR CHRISTAIN PLAYERS
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:14:25 GMT
Organization: Chevron

>AMEN.
>
>>Some Christian players are/were:  Jeff Hostetler
>>                                  Mike Singletary
>>                                  Roger Staubach
>				    Steve Largent
>also, Joe Gibbs. (OK, he's a coach, I admit it.)

also,
I think Anthony Munoz.
Bobby Hebert.
Mike Barber (former Oiler TE)


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From: evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Doug Evans - UCS Network Systems)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: dolphin news
Keywords: football
Date: 31 Jul 92 05:13:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <10197@disc.dla.mil>, i000506@disc.dla.mil (Carlos Deno) writes...
> 
>IS THERE ANYONE OUT THERE THAT HAS GONE TO THE MIAMI DOLPHINS 
>CAMP AND CAN GIVE ME NEWS ON HOW THEIR TEAM IS PROGRESSING.

Hey Tony, check this out! Looks like we've got another Dolfan in
training.

:)

Doug



                                    |                              Doug Evans
                                    | State University of New York at Buffalo
                                    |             evans@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu
From: kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Chargers news
Date: 30 Jul 92 08:00:59 GMT
Distribution: na

In article <1992Jul29.161753.15351@gdwest.gd.com>, collins@gdwest.gd.com (CWC 439085557 Collins) writes:
> In article <36238@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> kprashan@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (hyderabadi) writes:
> >QB Friesz signed yesterday. A two-year contract loaded with incentives.
> 
> How much?
> Gary John (Collins)


Does it matter? Some insane amount [to me, at least]..

$1.55M for 2 years. Could make upto $1M per year depending on his
and the team's performance.


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