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From: kyle@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Kyle Wohlmut)
Subject: Re: Belgian beers are best!! 
Followup-To: alt.beer
Organization: Rocking Pig Enterprises
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 17:27:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.102435.13702@htsa.aha.nl>
cees@tamtam2.htsa.aha.nl (Cees "Sheesh" Keyer) writes:

>Dear beer drinkers,
>Why do you talk about Belgium beers and not about the real dutch beers.
>You are both from Amsterdam or at least study there and I know that the best 
>(at least i think it's the best) dutch beer comes from Amsterdam.
>It's the beers from, Brewery 'T IJ funenkade Amsterdam
>
>They brew nice beers like Struis Columbus Zatte etc.
>
>You should try them.
>

Strange statement... you might as well say, 'I know that the best
Dutch beer comes from the Netherlands!'  You don't mean to include
Belgium as Dutch, do you? (If you do, you're more generous than most
Netherlanders I've met.) Tomorrow the world!

BTW, on the subject of Belgian Beers: This Sunday in San Francisco,
Belgian Beer tasting at the Toronado!  For those of you beer-starved
Bay Area folks who have never been to Belgium, this is your chance to
taste Duvel, Palm, Forbidden Fruit, Kwak, those yummy lambics, and all
those other obscure (but wonderful) beers everybody's talking about in
this current thread.  Once again, if any alt.beer types want to meet
up there, let me know...
(BTW I'm not affiliated with the Toronado, or any Belgian brewery...
just a satisfied customer)

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From: hughes@swine.cs.uiuc.edu (Eric Hughes)
Subject: Re: Something about German "
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 15:05:54 GMT

Your post seems to suggest that older folks with digestive problems
have an easier time handling warmer beer.  Is this really true?  My 
grandparents put ice in their beer (I know, YUCK).

Eric Hughes
hughes@cs.uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: joe@trdlnk.uucp (Joe Panfil)
Subject: Re: What to drink in Chicago
Organization: TradeLink Corp.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 22:33:11 GMT

Baderbrau. Brewed in Elmhurst, Illinois. Expensive but good.
From: lmj4805@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: unique yeast
Date: 9 Nov 92 13:39:41 GMT
Reply-To: lmj4805@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology

In article <ZsRyTB4w165w@seanews.akita.com>, jbunn@seanews.akita.com (John E Bunn) writes:
>Unique implies that noone else is using it for brewing beer.  There
>are many kinds of yeasts that are not used for brewing.  You might 
>culture GI, or yeasts from toes or armpits...  Personaly I would ask
>my lady friend for samples...  She will have billions to spare, even
>on a bad day.  The trick is culturing out the yeast from the junk...
>The process is (grossley) diluting the sample, and culturing the result.
>Then diluting the product and culturing...  again and again until you get
>a pure culture.  Yeasts have a wide variety of by-products which will 
>affect flavor and fermentation characteristics.  Personaly, no matter 
>how much I love my girl friend I won't cherish her yeast culture, nor 
>will I try to brew with Fleishmans bread yeast...  good luck...
>
>
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>[] SEANEWS [] Seattle Public Access Usenet News + Mail [] +1 206 747 NEWS []
>jbunn@seanews.akita.com

	im not trying to be a dick or anything but when you want to comment on
something cant you use the reply command? i have no idea how your system
behaves, but when you post all these new subjects and then talk to people in
other notes, i have no idea what is going on. like in your note above, who are
you giving this advice to? i dont know if you are using reply, or post, or
what, but you are creating lots of new threads on the same old discussions when
you do what you. just my two cents. ~:)
				lee
From: arthur@sgi.com (Arthur Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: which list is official?
Date: 12 Nov 92 02:08:32 GMT
Reply-To: arthur@chiba.esd.sgi.com (Arthur Evans)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <1992Nov11.225001.15973@brtph560.bnr.ca> mrmidi@aol.com writes:
>Hi folks,
>
>I'm a little pissed.  My newserver has been down for a week so I just saw
>Geoffrey Woods' post with his version of the brewpub list.  Maybe I'm being
>too touchy, but I have spent a lot of time researching the first list and
>compiling the corrections from the 100s of email messages I have recieved for
>the followup lists.
>
>alt.beer readers asked for someone to compile a list, so I did.  I asked for
>input, which I got.  I changed the list to reflect your wishes.  Then this
>guy posts *HIS* version.          

First, I think that Geoff stated pretty clearly that 
the reason he was posting his own list was that he 
felt it had a lot of things that weren't on yours,
and that it was less effort for him to post it, than
to try and locate all the differences between the 
two lists.  He didn't say anything about objecting to
the format of your list.

Second, this is the alt hierarchy.  It's supposed to be
anarchic.  What does it matter if seven different people
post brewpub lists?  They'll probably all have advantages
and drawbacks, and people will take what they like.

If you want to have the best possible brewpub list, you
should probably check out other people's lists to see if
they have any pubs that you haven't listed.  If you want to
have the sole or official brewpub list, well, you're out
of luck.  'Cause this is the alt hieranarchy, and there's
no official anything, nor is there any way to keep people
from posting whatever they like.

And thank god for that, or we wouldn't have this newsgroup
in the first place.

-ae-

--
"'twas whiskey and bad company
  That made a wretch of me."
				- (traditional Irish ballad)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: gwt@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (geoffrey.c.woods)
Subject: Brewpub List - Part 4
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:05:08 GMT



_________________________________________________________________________
			Part 4
-------------------------------------------------------------------------

     Crocodile Club St. Laurent
     4238 St. Laurent
     Montreal

     Las Brasseurs G.M.T.*
     Montreal

     Le Bar Cervoise
     Montreal

     Le Cheval Blanc
     Montreal

Quebec City

     L'Inox
     Quebec City

St. Casimir

     Las Brasseurs Portneuvoise*   | closed
     St. Casimir                   |

St. Jerome

     Las Brasseurs du Nord*
     St. Jerome

     
SASKATCHEWAN

Moose Jaw

     Brewsters Brewpub and Brasserie #3/Cornerstone Inn
     Moose Jaw

Regina

     Barley Mill Brewpub
     Regina

     Bonzini's Brewpub
     Regina

     Brewsters Brewpub and Brasserie
     Regina

     Bushwakker Brewing Co.
     Regina

     Luxembourg Brewpub #3
     Regina

Saskatoon

     Cheers Roadhouse/Saskatoon Brewing Co
     Saskatoon

     Clark's Crossing Brewpub
     Saskatoon

     Great Western Brewing Co (R)
     Saskatoon

     Fox & Hounds
     Saskatoon
_________________________________________________________________________
			End Part 4
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Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 16:21:56 EST
From: <JYABLON@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: *beer can collecting???*

Can anyone help to explain why the hobby of beer can collecting
has faded????????
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: zedaker@next01pg2.wam.umd.edu (Pamela Marie Weller)
Subject: **OLDEST BEER FOUND***
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 01:09:13 GMT


I saw a tid-bit on the news last night that said that they found evidence  
of beer brewing (somewhere in the fetile cresent area) from 5,000 years  
ago.  According to the news, this is the oldest time recorded thus far.

Pretty cool huh?

--Pam
From: Michael.P.Colburn@dartmouth.edu (Michael P. Colburn)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Re: Something about German "
Date: 5 Nov 92 18:57:24 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Nov5.154922.218@csghsg5a.bitnet>
92640861s@csghsg5a.bitnet writes:

> Greetings from Germany and Switzerland, J. Max.

Salutations, J. Max!
I profess to be one of those who really doesn't know too much about
beer culture (but I certainly do enjoy drinking it!)...I'm interested
in any insights you might have.  I'm also interested in what you
consider to be the good to best beers in Germany.  From what I've read,
more often than not, there are considerable differences in the
qualities of imported brands here in the US as compared to the same
brands available to you in Europe. Although I've enjoyed several
different imported brands and varieties from Germany (Becks, Dinkel
Acker, etc) I'm afraid that I'll probably never get to sample the
better brews from your area unless I go there in person.  *sigh* At any
rate, please educate me!

Culturally starved and eternally thristy... 

Mike Colburn                         =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Dartmouth-Hitchcock                  "Pulu-see-ba-goomba" -- Gilligan 
Medical Center                       =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Lebanon, New Hampshire  03756        :-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-):-)
"I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy."
From: mrmidi@aol.com (Tony Rice)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: which list is official?
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:50:01 GMT
Reply-To: mrmidi@aol.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hair Club for Men

Hi folks,

I'm a little pissed.  My newserver has been down for a week so I just saw
Geoffrey Woods' post with his version of the brewpub list.  Maybe I'm being
too touchy, but I have spent a lot of time researching the first list and
compiling the corrections from the 100s of email messages I have recieved for
the followup lists.

alt.beer readers asked for someone to compile a list, so I did.  I asked for
input, which I got.  I changed the list to reflect your wishes.  Then this
guy posts *HIS* version.          

Was I so far off of what people wanted in a list that this was necessary?
If so, I didnt know and I'm sorry.

He doesnt want contract brews in there.  I remove them from my list as I find
them.  He doesnt want the big boys in there.  90% of the response I get from
people on this subject is, "leave them in, its good for comparison" and "now
I know where I can take tours"

Please follow up and let me know if I'm off base here.  Which format do you 
like better?  His format looks easier to maintain but several alt.beer readers
have requested the format I've been using.

-- 
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Tony R. Rice                                     Bell Northern Research
Systems Development Environment Support      Research Triangle Park, NC
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                      "    GO     "        Opinions are my own, & don't
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From: WTP.ADMIN@MHS.UNC.EDU (Bill Pitts)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Samuel Smith's
Date: 8 Nov 92 18:33:24 GMT
Organization: UNC Office of Information Technology

I am going to try two more of Samuel Smith's brews. The Oatmeal Stout
and the Winter Welcome Ale.

As to cost of Samuel Smith's brews in the Research Triangle area of NC.

All are in 12oz (355ml) bottles except for the Winter Wo(u)nder which comes
in a (550ml?) bottle.

The Imperial Stout is $2.55. All the other 12oz (355ml) bottles are $2.29.
The 550ml bottle of Winter Welcome Ale is $3.99.

I am going to have to go back to Nasty-Bo and the Beast before I go broke.

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: robl@macro.viewlogic.com (Rob Limbert)
Subject: Re: Sam Adams Cranberry Lambic
Originator: robl@macro
Organization: Viewlogic Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:26:59 GMT


In article <1992Nov12.011117.27439@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, canderso@nyx.cs.du.edu (Chuck Anderson) writes:
|> I'm a bit low on funds these days so I'm not partaking of many specialty
|> beers these days.  I noticed a new one at the L store today, though, that
|> sounds really unique.  I can't wait to give it a try.
|> 
|> Cranberry Lambic.  That's a Belgium style beer, isn't it?
|> 

    Yes. In fact, purists argue that Lambic is unique to the Senne Valley 
in Belgium. Its primary distinction is that it's spontaneously fermented. 
That is, it's fermented by wild yeast from the air. It's then aged under 
conditions that are intentionally less sanitary than those used with most 
beers. This process yields a beer with a tart (even downright sour), cidery 
flavor. It's sometimes fermented with fruit (usually cherries or raspberries)
or mixed with candy sugar to sweeten it. It uses large quantities of hops as 
a perservative, but is not normally bitter, since the hops used in Lambic 
usually are aged to reduce their bitterness.

    Sam Adams Cranberry Lambic poses a dilemma. It's a good, interesting
beer, and certainly worth trying, but not really a Lambic, since fruit 
flavor is neither a necessary nor sufficient condition for calling beer 
Lambic. Compared to a Belgian fruit Lambic, it's less sour, less fruity,
and somewhat hoppier. 

    Several Belgian Lambics are available in the U.S.. Timmermans, Lindemans,
and Mort Subite are the ones I've tried. They can be excellent, almost like
a meeting of beer and wine, once you've acquired the taste. The downside is
the cost, which is often $5 or $6 per bottle, and tends to keep them in the
realm of the occasional treat. 
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From: jmellby@iluvatar.dseg.ti.com (John R. Mellby)
Subject: Re: Advice for a Yank goin' to London
Organization: TI-DSEG Spring Creek
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 14:21:51 GMT

 Two books better for finding good beer in London (IMHO, better than
 the GBG) are

 "The Best Pubs in London", 176 pages, softback, Editor Roger Protz.
 Price 4.95 / 2.50.
 The results of a quest for hidden gems of the capital city, with backstreet
 boozers as well as tourist haunts.  There are historic inns and modern
 pubs, with details of food and many off-beat anecdotes about drinking in
 London pubs plus the fascinating hsitory of brewing in the capital.

 "Classic Town Pubs", 192 pages, hardback, Editor Neil Hanson.
 Price 11.95 / 5.00.
 Neil Hanson has followed the ancient trade routes through out towns and
 cities, to find 100 classic pubs which provide a welcome break from
 the hustle and bustle of urban life.

 You might have to mail-order these from CAMRA ahead of time.
 I don't know whether they are commonly available in bookstores, since they
 are both CAMRA books.  I got my "Classic Town Pubs" in a Dallas bookstore
 but its not something commonly found on the shelves.

John R. Mellby                       Texas Instruments
jmellby@iluvatar.dseg.ti.com         P.O.Box 869305, MS 8513
jmellby@mcopn2.ti.com                Plano, Texas, 75266
(214)517-5370                        (214)575-6774
From: rmd@tellabs.com (Bob Dyas)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: Q beer
Date: 12 Nov 92 19:00:20 GMT
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle, IL


I know this came up before, but I'll post anyway.  I'm planning someday
to have a alphabet beer party.  I still have no Q beer.  Can anyone tell
me where to find a beer which begins with the letter in the Chicago area.
Thanks in advance.


-- 
---------------
Bob Dyas
Tellabs, Inc.
rmd@tellabs.com
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: vdpoll@fwi.uva.nl (D.P.van der Poll (I90))
Subject: Re: Belgian beers are best!! 
Organization: FWI, University of Amsterdam
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:30:49 GMT

cees@tamtam2.htsa.aha.nl (Cees Keyer) writes:

>In article <deboer.721397351@lri.jur.uva.nl> deboer@lri.jur.uva.nl (Peter de Boer) writes:
>>Dear Wilgenhof,
>>
>#>I must say I disagree about the fact that Duvel tastes of bananas, in fact I
>#>do consider it an insult to the Emperor beer Duvel. But let's cut the grap.
>#>Where trying to start a good discussion here about the Belgian beers in
>#>general. Let's stick to the trappist beers for a moment. There are  few in 
>#>Belgium : Westmalle, Leffe, Orval, Chimay, Rochefort and Duvel.
>#>Rochefort is a beer which comes in 3 different ways: 6, 8 and 10, the labels
>#>are of different colors. Yellow = 6, Green = 8 and Blue = 10. These numbers
>#>don't stand for the alcohol percentage. This beer contains a lot of yeast so
>#>be careful when you pour it. The blue 10 contains 12.3 percent alcohol, try
>#>this one first, allthough it will be very difficult to purchase even in
>#>Belgium. 
>Dear beer drinkers,
>Why do you talk about Belgium beers and not about the real dutch beers.
>You are both from Amsterdam or at least study there and I know that the best 
>(at least i think it's the best) dutch beer comes from Amsterdam.
>It's the beers from, Brewery 'T IJ funenkade Amsterdam

>They brew nice beers like Struis Columbus Zatte etc.
And the season-beers Paas-ij and IJ-bock.
>You should try them.
And what about the beers from Arcen?
They brew nice beers like:
	Arcener Meibok  (heavy, but great)
	Hertog Jan Grand Prestige
	Hertog Jan Bock

By the way, I think Hertog Jan brews the best pils in the world.

I'm getting thirsty now, so goodbye

Sidney

Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: zedaker@next06wor.wam.umd.edu (Pamela Marie Weller)
Subject: Re: Coors
Keywords: Yea Right
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:18:43 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.192621.28562@netnews.alf.dec.com>  
grafix@picture.tel.com (GRAFIX) writes:
> 
> 
> Coors beer is the best IMHO!
> 
> They would go out of business if I switched brands!

Unfortunately I doubt that you are keeping the Coors corporation in  
business.  Many people seem to drink vulgar beers such as theirs.  Nothing  
against you personally.  You just probably haven't experienced *REAL* beer  
yet.  True beer conesseurs (sp?) don't drink the likes of Coors, unless of  
perhaps they are paid to do so.

-->Pam
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: lsmith@deci.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith)
Subject: Re: Twin Cities Micros
Organization: The Little Beer Squids of the Poor
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:05:34 GMT

In <1drgrqINN4p@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> x1rbrown@exnet.iastate.edu (Roger Brown) writes:

>I'm sure others closer to the Cities will reply but...

>Micros in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area include:

>Summit Pale Ale, Summit Porter and maybe Summit Winter Ale

Great Northern Porter is its full name. Never was sure if this was a pun.
(There were porters who worked for the Great Northern Railroad.)

Summit Winter Ale is available now. Came out a month earlier than in the 
past.

>James Page beers (maybe 2 kinds available now...).

James Page Special Reserve (or some glorified name for his usual lager)
James Page Boundary Waters (made with a wild rice adjunct.)
James Page Boundary Waters Bock (a specialty beer that might have been dropped)

>MAYBE something from Capital in Wisconsin.

Yup. Their Octoberfest was generally available and their usual light and dark
beers can be found.

>These are all fine brews. Summit Porter is extra fine.

No disagreement.

Let me add:

Pete's Wicked Ale - a contract beer brewed in St Paul
Schell's Pils and Wheat - Schell's is really a Milli or Centibrewery, but 
         their top of the line is first rate.
Some odds and ends that sneak into Minnesota.

>PS My favorite beer store is Surdyk's on 2nd in St. Paul. The folks in 
>the Cities will know better.

Surdyk's probably has the best selection though it has slipped some over the
years. They've been getting a lot of West Coast Microbrews that come in those
big 25.6 oz (?) bottles. Good, but way too pricey. I tend to think Surdyk's
mistreats some of their beers. Someone told me that some of the Haskell's
stores have been making a push in the beer area. 

The best to get the microbrew is Johnny's Bar, right across the street from
Summit Brewery. The bar is dedicated to beer. Not the largest selection in
the area, but the price is generally good for what you get.
--
  Lance "Cr2O3.2H2O" Smith | "He is an aristocrat and a peanut. Citizen 
    (lsmith@cs.umn.edu)    |  St Just says that is enough to warrant his 
    Reynard and Tybert's   |  death. I do not wish to argue with St Just."
        Biggest Fan        |             _Mr Peanut and the Reign of Terror_
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: ray@theory.lcs.mit.edu (Ray Hirschfeld)
Subject: Re: SCOTTISH BEER
Organization: MIT Lab for Computer Science
	<1992Nov4.154112.24790@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 15:19:37 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.154112.24790@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>
gfl@hera.cc.bellcore.com (lenahan,grant f) writes:
> My recent visit to Scotland was a "beer disappointment".  The
> ales / lagers were almost all magabreweries, kinda soda-pop
> type beers.  Very few "real ales" (cask conditioned) were 
> to be found.  One exception was Caladonian ale, but I only
> saw it three times in two weeks.  'twas a fortnight of
> Guinness for me.
>
> Down with McEwans and Tennants.
>
> Grant

I haven't been to Scotland, but one of my current favorites available
right here in the US is from Scotland: MacAndrews Scotch Ale.  It's
brewed in Edinburgh by the Caledonian brewery and has a picture of a
Scottish terrier on the label ("Man's Best Friend").  Much better than
McEwans or Belhaven, IMO (I've never tried Tennants).
From: (Walagamemnon Beckhouse)
Newsgroups: alt.beer
Subject: a nice little drop
Followup-To: alt.beer
Date: 10 Nov 1992 16:03:14 GMT
Organization: Kyogle Pub, NSW, Australia
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.67.12

Her in Australia we have a nice little drop called Coopers.  Its brewed
with all that organic stuff, and has a thick sediment on the bottom.

Wal Beckhouse
Beer conoseur
Kyogle Pub
Newsgroups: alt.beer
From: wljohnso@nyx.cs.du.edu ()
Subject: I need your help!
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 00:36:00 GMT


I am currently working on a freelance article on home brewing beer and I
need input, quotes and facts.  My deadline is still a few weeks away but
the sooner I get stuff the better!

Here is some things I would like to know:
1
1.  How long have you been brewing your own?
2.  How do you do it?
3.  Why?
4.  Advise on where to get more information.
5.  General comments about brewing your own.
6.  Do you like brewing your own or buying beer?
7.  What other kinds of alcohol do you home brew? (how, why, etc)
8.  Is home brewed beers better tasting that store bought?
9.  How did you get started?
10.  Where can you learn how do do it?
 
If you could e-mail me a responce (I do not usually read this group much)
I would be eternally grateful and will name atleast one of my children
after you, assuming I ever get married!

  My net address is; wljohnso@nyx.cs.du.edu

  THANKS FOR YOUR HELP!

-----------------------------------
William "Wes" "Gener!" Johnson    |
-----------------------------------

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From: amundsoc@columbia.dsu.edu (CHRIS AMUNDSON)
Subject: Mickey's
Organization: Dakota State University
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 21:17:17 GMT

Does anyone out there know the alcoholic content of mickey's malt liquor?
Also does anyone know who brews it?

Send answers via email to amundsoc@columbia.dsu.edu.

Thanks

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