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From: hoijoonk@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Question about recording a guitar track...
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:38:10 GMT

Hi

I'm in the process of buying a preamplifier, 'cuz I need to record some
guitar lines on my four track.  I've tried miking my Randall RG80, but
didn't like the sound NOR the hassle.  I heard from someone that I can
get rid of a lot of the noise by recording through a preamp straight to
the 4-track.  It really apeal to me since I do most of my recording at
night, too  (Yes, my neighbors just adore me ;-)

Anyhow, I purchased this one preamp, called SOHO QTR-1, through mail only
because it was cheap (less than $200), had a money-back guarantee, and was
a TUBE pre-amp.  It just arrived today, and it sounds like a cheap boss
or DOD heavy-metal pedal ( with a little more flexibility, of course.)
So, i'm thinking of sending it back and find myself a better sounding unit.

What would be a good sounding pre-amp for under $300, new or used???  Or is
it my misconception that pre-amp will make my life better and easier??
If somebody can give me some thoughts on this, I'd really appreciate it.
Here is the list of the stuffs I'm currently using:

	* Mac IIsi running Vision by Opcode
	* Roland U20
	* TEAC 144 multitrack recorder
	* ART Multiverb LT
	* KORG SDD-1000 Digital delay
	* Randell RG80-112 SC
	* Ibanez PR1550
	* Audio Technica PR325
	* One hand-made classical guitar
	* Ibanez steal string (6) for slide

I'm a hobbyist/composer/music student/guitarist and pretty new to this home
recording scene.  Thank you for your concern in advance !!

Henry K.
From: felske@erich.triumf.ca (FELSKE, WAYNE W.)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: MIDI ports
Date: 16 Nov 1992 13:47 PST
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: erich.triumf.ca
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article (tommy) writes...
> 
>I'm trying to create my own MIDI device and was wondering
>about the transfer rate of data. I know it transfers at 31.25kBaud
>but how? Each clock would be 32useconds so does that mean that a
>binary 1 would be 32us high and 0 would be 32us low? So to transmit
>11001 would send 64us high, 64us low, and then 32us high? I have
>left out the start and stop bits of course. Or is it using some
>pulse width modulation or something.
	
	No there is no modulation. It is simply highs and lows.
Most midi outs I've seen use a 74' series TTL Nand gate on the gnd side
and a 220 ohm resistor from the 5 volt supply. (Of course it is a
current serial line ) Yes that does mean x us per 'bit'

	Wayne Felske    My wife's a music computer,guitar etc. widow

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar,misc.forsale
From: dpm@msc.edu (David P. Mottaz)
Subject: For sale: 1962 Gibson SG (Les Paul JR)
Organization: Minnesota Supercomputer Center, Minneapolis, MN
Distribution: mn
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 15:10:42 GMT

Cherry red, original P90 pickup.  Well played.  Frets are in
excellent condition(recently dressed original frets), new pots,
new Gibson P90 pickup cover.

Deviations from stock are Grover machines, an adjustable bridge,
and a Dimarzio pickup(in the middle position - the P90 is in the
bridge position and there is no neck position pickup).

$400.00 (offers welcome)

I will not ship this guitar.  Call or email if you are interested.


-David Mottaz
 dpm@msc.edu  (612)625-7589  (home=(612)646-0910)
 Minnesota Supercomputer Center Inc.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (NATHAN PHILLIP STEWART)
Subject: Re: Tubes vs. Transistors
Originator: npstewar@c00726-239rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: npstewar@eos.ncsu.edu (NATHAN PHILLIP STEWART)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:43:55 GMT


As far as this argument goes, I've heard people say tubes emphasize even 
harmonics, and now everyone is saying odd.  I think that could come from a few
sources.  The idea behind this is that even harmonics are more musical than odd
ones.

To start off, harmonics, from my physics book, start a #2, with the 1st
being the fundamental, so that the 2nd harmonic of 440hz is 880hz. For lower
ordered harmonics, more even one fall on musical intervals, but it gets kinda
crazy after a point.  The 2nd harmonic being an octave, the 4th two octaves,
the 3rd being an octave and a fifth, the 6th is 2 octaves and a fifth.  Numbers
5,7,11,13,14,15,17,etc not falling on musical intervals.

For people saying that tubes produce odd harmonics, this could come from two
things.  First, they could be numbering wrong, as someone did explaining inton-
ation a couple of days ago.  Secondly, a power section running in class AB tends
to cancel the even harmonics, leaving mostly 3, and a little bit of 5.  Solid
state power amps are usually never overdriven, so this could be a source of the
myth.  This isn't really a product of its tubeness, but the amp design.  An amp
in class A mode doesn't cancel the even harmonics.

Third, I think for tubes in general (but I know EL-34's do this quite a bit)
as distortion increases, the tubes bandwidth rolls off.  This reduces the number
of really high ordered harmonics you hear, and your speaker finishes off the job.
I'm not sure just how far this falls off, and where, but this may have a more 
significant contribution than the evenness or oddness of any harmonics produced.

However, most guitarist never overdrive their power section if they do have tube
amps.And it not a pretty sight to ever overdrive a solid state power amp. So the
even harmonic cancellation and bandwidth rolloff shouldn't add to much to the
sound of anyone who would be caught dead using an amp with a master volume, much
less a solid state amp.:-) So the above arguments don't really  apply in the
case of a lot of players today, but it could explain where the myths come from.

Nathan Stewart


Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: dana@os23.somers.hqregion.ibm.com
Subject: Keith Richards'  tuning
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 14:22:14 GMT
News-Software: IBM OS/2 PM RN (NR/2) v0.15 by O. Vishnepolsky and R. Rogers
Organization: IBM T. J. Watson Research

Anyone know what tuning Keith Richards uses in "Brown Sugar"?

Thanks.

Dana Kilcrease 
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: osstlm@eua.ericsson.se (Tomas Lundstrom)
Subject: Re: Replacing pickups.
Reply-To: osstlm@eua.ericsson.se
Organization: Ellemtel Telecom Systems Labs, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 13:28:31 GMT

In article 8819@galileo.cc.rochester.edu, wfsq_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Billy the Kidd) writes:
> In <jgllgher.721932708@unix1.tcd.ie> jgllgher@unix1.tcd.ie (Dara Gallagher) writes:
> 
> >At the moment I'm overhaulding my cheapish Hohner strat copy
> >( I added shielding to the cavity and replaced the 5 position
> >switch as well as adjusting the trussrod, intonation and 
> >action ) and I've started thinking about replacing the 
> >single coil neck pickup that came with it with something
> >better. I love the sound of the neck pickup as it is, but
> >it can be noisy so I was thinking of getting something a
> >less noisy. The one thing that worries me is losing the
> >rounded, and at the same time bright, sound that I get at
> >the moment with the single coil.

Note !!

> >	Could anyone recommend good single coil pickups?
> >Alternatively has anyone replaced the neck pickup on their
> >strat with a humbucker? If so could you describe the change
> >in the sound ? Are there any books on these sort of guitar
> >issues or books on guitar repair/electrics that anyone would
> >recommend ?
> 
> >Thanks in advance.
> >Dara.
> 
> 	I can definately suggest one of the hottest lines of single-coil
> pickups available today ....  SEYMOUR DUNCAN rails.  The 'Hot Rails'
> especially is one of my favorites, especially for a beefy humbucker sound
> with that warm single-coil tone.  Also, they have a 'Cool Rails' which is

"beefy humbucker sound with that warm single-coil tone" sounds like a
contradiction to me ..
Hot rails are not very close to the original single-coil sound, IMHO.
I'd suggest Duncan Stacked humbuckers instead. But of course, no advice can
replace your ears ...

> somewhat thinner, but along the same lines.
> 
> 			Billy Kidd
From: jpmakela@klaava.Helsinki.FI (J Pekka Makela)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Replacing pickups.
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:38:43 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Dara Gallagher (jgllgher@unix1.tcd.ie) wrote:
> At the moment I'm overhaulding my cheapish Hohner strat copy
> ( I added shielding to the cavity and replaced the 5 position
> switch as well as adjusting the trussrod, intonation and 
> action ) and I've started thinking about replacing the 
> single coil neck pickup that came with it with something
> better. I love the sound of the neck pickup as it is, but
> it can be noisy so I was thinking of getting something a
> less noisy. The one thing that worries me is losing the
> rounded, and at the same time bright, sound that I get at
> the moment with the single coil.

	I have two Fender Lace Sensors (Gold) in my Squier Strat.
	Compared to the single remainingoriginal, they sound around the same,
	except they are virtually noise-free. They are not cheap,
	though; I got mine second-hand, that's why there's only two.
	

> 	Could anyone recommend good single coil pickups?
> Alternatively has anyone replaced the neck pickup on their
> strat with a humbucker? If so could you describe the change
> in the sound ? Are there any books on these sort of guitar
> issues or books on guitar repair/electrics that anyone would
> recommend ?

	Besides replacing the pickups, I have wired the Strat with
	the "Super-Strat" switching system explained in a Guitar
	Player issue some years ago (the "Strat-mania" special, it
	was August '88 or something like that.

	The point is, by using the three toggle switches installed,
	I can get the neck and the middle pickup in *series*; the 
	sound is thicker, more humbucker-like: carefully picking, I
	can get a good jazzy gibsonish sound out of a strat.
	Recommended, especially for a guitar that does not suffer 
	much in terms of re-selling.
	
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> Dara.

'					-jPM
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From: WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Fender StratoFAQ
Date: 16 Nov 92 16:26:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: SLACVM.92321.082619WAUGH
 <83682@ut-emx.uucp>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

In article <83682@ut-emx.uucp>, mic@ut-emx.uucp (Mic Kaczmarczik) says:
>
>Title:          The Fender Stratocaster
>Author:         A.R. Duchossoir
>Date:           1988
>Pages:          64, 8 in color
>ISBN:           0-88188-880-X
>Publisher:      Hal Leonard
>Summary:
>
>The third edition of a book originally published in 1983, updated with
>information up to 1988.  The four parts cover the invention of the
>guitar; an overview of the history of the instrument in its various
>forms; information about construction details such as headstock shape,
>decals, body woods, and hardware; and how to date a Stratocaster using
                                       ^^^ ^^ ^^^^ ^ ^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^^^
>serial numbers and neck dates.
 ^^^^^^ ^^^^^^^ ^^^ ^^^^ ^^^^^

Be careful here!  In the GPI Publications new book about the history of
Fender guitars the former president (Or something like that.  I don't
have the book with me.) of Fender debunks the theory that serial numbers
or neck dates can be used as a definitive method for acurately dating any
Fender guitars especially when it is the neck plate that carries the
serial number.  Neck dates are useful for just that, dating a neck.  It
offers very little insight into when the guitar that has that neck was
actually assembled.

I can post the actual passage if there is any interest.  Buy the book
though, really.  It's very readable, offers some great insights from
the people who actually made the history and has tons of great color
pictures of all Fender guitars in producation and some that never made it
to your local music store.

Brian
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: fprince@cwis.unomaha.edu (Frank E. Prince)
Subject: Re: Danny Gatton:  Anything forthcoming?
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 22:36:33 GMT

jmgst26+@pitt.edu  writes:
> I'm looking forward to a new Danny Gatton release.  Is he working on anything?
> Does he have anything besides 88 Elmira St. ?
> 
> Mike

Mike,
I believe he hes a jazz album out now called New York Stories. I haven't
heard it, but I know he studied Les Paul when he was young so it's 
probably great.
				Frank
From: ray@eecs.nwu.edu (Jim Ray)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Duplicating Marshall heads...
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:05:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: eecs.1992Nov22.170552.9534
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University

In article <1ejq48INN54b@aludra.usc.edu> aumentad@aludra.usc.edu (SUPERGROVER) writes:
>
>I've been thinking about building an amp head and figured I might as well go 
>whole hog and try to build a marshall.

I would like to do the same and purchased an Altec 1569A theatre amp
that uses (4) EL34s like the Marshall.  My problem is coming up with
the preamp circuit.

Jerry Garcia uses a Fender Super Reverb preamp circuit and a McIntosh
power amp (I believe his power amp is transistor, hence the tube vs.
transistor post).

Any advice on the preamp from any of you tube gurus?

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* Jim Ray                                      ray@eecs.nwu.edu *
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* If the thunder don't get you, then the lightning will. jg     *
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From: cooper@kdx200.enet.dec.com (Uh-huh...)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Damage to a tube Marshall?
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:10:48 GMT
Reply-To: cooper@kdx200.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I know people will piss in my sneakers for saying this, but I'll 
comment ANYWAY.  :)  :)

I've played guitar for quite a while, and I've owned SEVERAL Marshalls.
I always like them at first, because of the fat tone and pure ballz.
But they NEVER last with me.  Why??

Because they have lame-gain instead of insane-gain.    I like to have a 
REAL metal sound ala Marty Friendman of MegaDeth.  Ya know, a really fizzle-y
top end, lots of squeelies etc...   Marshalls don't do that - not for me
anyway.  

I've also tried the same things that you have... Ergo, a compressor or
EQ or distortion box before the input, and even in the FX loop.  All they
do is add noise.

IMHO, if you are looking  for insane gain, don't get a Marshall.

Now before I get jumped all over, Marshalls are nice for generic
rock (classic, blues etc...)...They just aren't for me.

Also, people say "Your nuts JC, EVERYONE uses Marshalls" - Well, my answer
is, "Not stock, and not without help from the mixing  bench".

Okay, slay me.  :)

jc (who traded his Marshalls in for rack-gear)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: cdl0915@ultb.isc.rit.edu (Chris Losinger)
Subject: Pickups...was bad feedback 
Originator: cdl0915@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:37:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov16.123608.12365@ms.uky.edu> billq@ms.uky.edu (Billy Quinn) writes:
>cdl0915@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Christian Dylan Losinger) writes:
>
>I would suggest trading in the decade for a good distortion pedal.
>Put your bandit on a loud clean sound, and step on your distortion.
>Try the BOSS "Metal zone" for a good metal sound.
>
>I bet its you amps man!  If you had 20 knobs that said distortion
>would you crank 'em all up?  If so, then you need to get a few more
>distorion knobs - if not, then get a decent pedal and a good clean
>tone on the bandit!

	If the Bandit had 20 knobs that said Distortion, I'd be in Heaven!

	No, I think I've found my problem . Many people have told me that the
	problem is probably the pick-ups, which are cheap-o models. (I can
	talk into them and hear myself through the amp). 

	So , now the question becomes : what are some decent, inexpensive
	Potted (!) pickups that I can buy? I don't think there's much of
	a chance of me trying any out in someone else's guitar, so I'm 
	gonna rely on your replies....
-- 
        --------------------------------------------------------------
        	c  h  r  i  s   l  o  s  i  n  g  e  r   r  i  t
From: cuslb1@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Steven Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Which Fender?
Date: 16 Nov 92 02:29:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: uxa.BxsEwx.CwD
Organization: Educational Computing Network


I have a Japanese "Squire II" strat and am very satisfied with it.
I did put some Fender Lace Sensor pickups in though. The stock ones
feed back at high distortion levels.
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: tom@cpac.washington.edu (Tom May)
Subject: Re: Sounding like Slash:
Organization: Center for Process Analytical Chemistry, UW
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:01:55 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.203225.21032@athena.mit.edu> juggle@athena.mit.edu (???) writes:

   I happen to be fond of Slash as an artist (if not as a person) (No
                                              ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
   flames please), and even if he isn't nearly in the same league as Vai
   and all the rest, you have to admit that he is a *good* guitarist.

Maybe a year or so ago I heard a phone interview on one of the (lame)
local commercial rock stations with some guy.  After listening for a
while, it became clear that he was a guitarist and had done some work
with this, that, and the other guy in the music biz, etc. etc. etc.
This guy was very reasonable and intelligent sounding, especially
compared to the loud-mouthed party-attitude interviewing DJs.  He
really seemed like a serious and industrious guy.  After the
interview, I found out this guitarist guy was Slash.  I think a lot
more of him now after that episode.  Seemed like maybe an ok guy to
invite over for dinner.

And yes, I admit that he is a *good* guitarist.
--
Tom.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: pnisula@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Subject: 1992 Teisco Del Ray value.
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 09:21:14 GMT

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        Europe this autumn.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: brunetm@JSP.UMontreal.CA (Brunet Martin)
Subject: Re: Question about recording a guitar track...
Organization: Universite de Montreal
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 14:49:56 GMT

In article <9211172338.aa27189@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> hoijoonk@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:
>Hi
>
>I'm in the process of buying a preamplifier, 'cuz I need to record some
>guitar lines on my four track.  I've tried miking my Randall RG80, but
>didn't like the sound NOR the hassle.  I heard from someone that I can
>get rid of a lot of the noise by recording through a preamp straight to
>the 4-track.  It really apeal to me since I do most of my recording at
>night, too  (Yes, my neighbors just adore me ;-)

  Me too, I'm in a mood of buying something and really need a pre-amp. I 
never deal with pre-amp for guitar but constantly searching for information
about them. I know that ADA, ART & DIGITECH made the most 'popular' pre-amp
but are they the best? If there is good comments about them? I think that
Mesa boogie, Marchall, .... pre-amp are very expensive and not wore there
value. Any suggestion or comments will be gratefully receive.       

                                         Thanks!

{Electric CountryMan}
From: rseymour@reed.edu (Robert Seymour)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Looking for a PRS or Tom Anderson Guitar...
Keywords: prs, tom anderson, used
Date: 18 Nov 92 07:20:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: reed.1992Nov18.072029.8785
Reply-To: rseymour@reed.edu
Organization: Reed College, Portland, OR


	I'm in the market for a guitar and am looking at both PRS and Tom  
Andersons. If you have one you'd like to sell, send me email and we can talk.  
I'd like a dual humbucker configuration and nice maple top, but I'll consider  
any configuration or model. Also, I'd like to hear from anyone who has looked  
at both on what thier thoughts are about the two. I've played both and so far I  
like the PRS sound a lot, but the Tom Andersons are more comfortable to play  
(especially the neck). Thanks.

--
Robert Seymour				rseymour@reed.edu
Departments of Physics and Philosophy
Artificial Life Project			Reed College
Reed Solar Energy Project (SolTrain)	Portland, OR
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: ayers@grafix.eid.anl.gov (Andy Ayers)
Subject: Wanted - Yamaha SBG-???
Organization: ANL
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 18:47:30 GMT

   I am trying to locate a Yamaha SBG200 or other SBG guitars.  I would like 
information about where I could get one.  I live in the Chicago-land area, so
stores or persons in this area would be ideal, but not necessary.

Please email to ayers@grafix.eid.anl.gov

Thanks.
From: larryh@cabezon.uucp (Larry Huntley)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: Keith Richards'  tuning
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:37:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: cabezon.1992Nov20.003735.1911
Organization: Logic Modeling Inc of Beaverton Oregon

In article <Bxx4C8.4sE@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> ujhennin@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (James Henning) writes:
>In article <1992Nov18.142214.41227@watson.ibm.com> dana@os23.somers.hqregion.ibm.com writes:
>>Anyone know what tuning Keith Richards uses in "Brown Sugar"?
>>
>
>Open G           (D  G  D  G  B  D)
>
>actually Keith pulls off the low D string.
>

    What Jim means here is that KR removes the 6th string (Low E/D)
    from the guitar.  Hey!  A baritone Telecaster?

    - Larry Huntley
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