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From: kirchner@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Robert Kirchner)
Subject: Re: Dynamo Dresden/request for fixtures
Originator: kirchner@hphalle5h.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 13:18:56 GMT


Dynamo Dresden is still in the 1st Bundesliga (finished 14th of 20 teams last
season with 17th-20th back to 2nd Bundesliga), but will face a very hard year.

There are only two home matches in September:
	Tue	Sep  1   Dynamo Dresden - SG Wattenscheid 09
	Fri	Sep 18 	 Dynamo Dresden - Borussia Moenchengladbach
       (Sat	Oct  3	 Dynamo Dresden - Werder Bremen)

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  Technical University of Munich
  Bavaria, Germany
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Xref: sparky rec.sport.soccer:10798 soc.culture.italian:3148 rec.sport.olympics:1622
From: roberto@foggia.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Roberto Ricca)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer,soc.culture.italian,rec.sport.olympics
Subject: Kuwait-Italy result
Date: 29 Jul 92 23:12:20 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

I am posting results from the group A of the Olympic
soccer tournament.

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*                                         *
*        ITALY   WON    !!!!!!!           * 
*                                         *
*******************************************

They beat Kuwait 1-0, Melli scored the winning goal after nine
minutes, then this lone goal was defended till the end.

As Poland and Usa drew their game (2-2, thanks Poland), Italy
qualified for the next round.

Final standings for the group A:

    Poland   5   2 1 0   7 2        <- qualified ->
    Italy    4   2 0 1   4 5        <- qualified ->
    Usa      3   1 1 1   6 5
    Kuwait   0   0 0 3   1 6

It's the third Olympiad in a row that Italy gets past the first
round.

Next opponent is a tough one, the host country.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Re: Calling NBC/triple cast for soccer complaints
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 17:59:42 GMT

Well I just got off the phone with NBC myself.  The first time I called a
couple of weeks ago I got an answering machine so I decided to call back
and and talk to a human.

The lady confirmed what everybody else has been saying.  She said that the
majority of the calls that they had gotten concerned soccer.  I didn't even
prompt her for this info.  She readily gave it to me.  She said that since
this was the first time they had ever done anything like this they obviously
would make some mistakes and it seems like not showing soccer was the biggest
one.

Everybody who's interested in soccer, in general not just the olympics, should
call (516)496-1322 and register your concern about the lack of coverage for
soccer.

Andy
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: etxjdry@caddie.ericsson.se (John Dryselius TG/HB)
Subject: Sweden vs S Korea
Reply-To: etxjdry@caddie.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Telecom
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 08:35:44 GMT

South Korea was very good against Sweden yesterday. They played an attractive and offensive football and managed to challenge Sweden. Seo scored in the first half by running through the slow Swedish defense. Both teams had several chances to score.
In the second half Sweden was a little bit stronger than Korea and managed to score through Roedlund. Yet Korea had some chances as well to score and Sweden never had full control. 

Sweden - South Korea  1 - 1 (0-1)

Paraguay - Marocco 3 - 0

Thus it is Sweden and Paraguay to the quarter. I believe Paraguay have to meet Ghana. Ghana should defeat them. Sweden are up against Australia, who beat Denmark 3-0. 

Though Sweden had a very poor Australian tour this spring (I believe Australia won two games 1-0, and draw one) the Swedish team should go through to the semi. but I think that after the performances in the group Sweden can forget their dreams about gold or any medal.

John


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From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Re: US Olympic Soccer - Team
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:42:23 GMT

He is too old.  The players must be under 23 years old to play in the olympics.

Andy
From: cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Best transfer deal in history - NOT ??
Date: 28 Jul 92 13:50:45 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

In article <1992Jul28.084425.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
> In article <1992Jul27.134429.1@vaxa.strath.ac.uk>, cbar40@vaxa.strath.ac.uk writes:
>  
>> The formal signing ceremony between
>>> Rangers and Bernard Tapie will take place before the game against Marseille
>>> tomorrow night at the request of Tapie. This has finally confirmed his
>>> insanity by wanting to sign away a 3 million pound loss in front of 40 000
>>> Bears
>  
>> Mehears Terry Cassidy has been invited along to see how it should be done!
>>>
> Do what ?? Pull in a big crowd ?
  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is better re-phrased something like  =>

To see what ? How to pull in a big crowd  perhaps ?

Sorry for the confusion :-)
  
  Sandy Mackinnon
  Univ of Strathclyde
  Glasgow
  cbas38@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: SuperLeague?? (British)
From: chriscasey@otago.ac.nz
Date: 31 Jul 92 18:45:15 +1300
Organization: University of Otago, Dunedin, New Zealand

Just wondering...

When does the "super-league" (if that's what it's called) start, and
who is in it?
(apart from L'pool, Everton, Spurs and my beloved Highbury outfit!)

Chris.

PS. I'm hoping we play Celtic (my favourite player is Charlie Nicholas)
and kick their kilts in!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Subject: Re: nbc - olympics
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 16:16:48 GMT

In article <01GMVWH2KMAO99DGUF@LTUVAX.BITNET> OB71330%LTUVAX.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU (The difference between you and me is that I do it and you say it.) writes:
< ....  NBC has a time slot from
<12:35am until 2:05am to show the game, along with that they have to show the
<women's tennis doubles and the water polo semifinal.  How in the world are you
<going to fit all that in in less than 2 hours...
<
<Oliver Bosnjakovski


The only "soccer" coverage I saw in the 1988 Olympics on Yankee TV (was it
ABC's coverage then?) was that the cameras panned the crowd at half-time
of the Gold Medal match.  Perhaps NBC will screw us similarly?  :-(



-- 
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3M Health Information Systems,	Wallingford, Connecticut, U.S.A.

"An Englishman never enjoys himself, except for a noble purpose." - A.P.Herbert
From: kryst14@vax.oxford.ac.uk (Alex Ashcroft)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Dynamo Dresden/request for fixtures
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:21:05 GMT
Organization: Chem. Cryst. Lab., University of Oxford

I will be in Dresden for part of September, and I was hoping to watch some
German football while I am there.  I know Dynamo were in the first division
of the Bundesliga(sp?) last season, are they still there?  If anyone has a
list of their home fixtures for September, I would appreciate a copy of it.

                                  Thanks,
                                          Alex

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com (Robert Moynihan)
Subject: Re: Horse standing on a football
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:15:12 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <673@dsbc.icl.co.uk> sut@dsbc.icl.co.uk (Secure Unix Team KID01) writes:
>Any Ipswich Town fans around?
>
>Mart
>

Email me...I'm trying to become one. :-)  I sent you email, but am 
also following up the letter in case our mailer doesn't want to send
the reply across the pond... (Apologies to the rest of the world.)

Bob
moynihan_r@apollo.hp.com
From: JRGS@db1.cc.rochester.edu (JORGE SOARES)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: soccer in the games
Date: 22 Jul 92 14:15:40 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester, Rochester NY
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

I don't think the fact that there will be a very low attendance to the soccer
games is scary, we should be expecting that.
 The europeans soccer fans had a all year to see in their national
championships, in ec1, ec2, ec3 and in the European Cup some of the best teams
in the world, and the best players in the world. 
 Why would they bother to waist money , time and patience to go watch a
tournament with u-23 teams?
 They can satisfy their curiosity watching the matches on t.v., and more
important, they can give some attention to other sports where they have the
possibility of admiring some of the best athletes in the world.
 We should always remember that Fifa and Uefa have the monopoly of all the big
events in soccer and they want it to stay that way, if the U-23 rule was not
enough to keep the olympic soccer tournament almost ignored they would impose
some other rules to the C.O.I..
 Strictly business.
 Jorge Soares
From: roberto@foggia.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Roberto Ricca)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: USA-Italy score (spoiler)
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:56:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Olivetti ATC; Cupertino CA, USA

I don't think I'm going to really spoil someone's enjoyment.
I read in this morning newspaper the names of NBC commentators
and analists at the Olympics, sport by sport, starting from
basketball to wrestling. Guess what, soccer was missing from
this list (also baseball, for that matter).

I guess we're not going to see too much soccer, neither in
the highlights.

BTW, Italy won 2-1, 2-0 at halftime. I don't know who scored.

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Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: rjromanc@sun1.vlsi.waterloo.edu (Richard Romanczyk)
Subject: Re: Poland - US match
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 14:59:07 GMT

>>Does anyone know the result of the Poland - U.S. olympic soccer match that
>>was played today ?
>>
>>If so, please post it.  Thanks.
>>
>
>Poland 2 U.S.A. 2
>
>NBC obviously did not find this result exciting since they failed to show any
>action from it (B****RDS!)
>
Hmmm.  What could that word be ?  BaltuRDS
				  BastaRDS *** That's the one
				  BellaRDS

NBC coverage sucks. It is a total joke.  So is CTV's coverage.  Anyways, we
all know about that, so I won't bother explaining.

No one even has the scores ! Not sportsline, not the dickheads that 'keep
us up to date' with the olympics.  I had to phone a penpal in Poland last
night to fing out this score! I also tried SW radio, but I didn't have good 
reception.

Why do you think that this game ended in a draw ? Who was leading most of the
game ? Who had to come back to tie it up ?

Did Poland not CRUSH the US because:

(1)	They wanted Italy in the next round ?
(2)	They were resting their good players ?
(3) 	They felt sorry for a loser team like the US ?
(3)	US woke up all of a sudden ? 

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: sbhatia@eng.clemson.edu (sameer bhatia)
Subject: Re: Olympic Football : Mexico vs Denmark
Reply-To: sbhatia@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:26:36 GMT

From estess@mksol.dseg.ti.com (newell estess)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Olympic Football : Mexico vs Denmark
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:35:24 GMT

In <Bs16oK.KFu@news.cso.uiuc.edu> atena@uxh.cso.uiuc.edu (Arturo Tena-Colunga) writes:



>      I guess the result was just after all! :-) I wish
>I would be already at Mexico! :-(  I am missing a good olympic
>coverage, the americans have the richest networks but
>the worst olympic coverage I have ever seen! |-\ They spent
>zillions of time doing nonsense! I don't tune NBC to
>see Bob Costas' face, or *LONG* stories about some
>athletes! I think today they spent more time on this than
>in showing action! |-\  And I think it is very UNRESPECTFUL
>that they don't care to name and show us who are all the
>participants in a swimming final, for example! |-\ They just
>show us their american heroes and the *strongest* competition,
>and not even that sometimes! And they are *SO* bias, jeallous 
>and sore loosers. Well, these is not football, but I
>have to take it out of my chest! :-) This coverage has
>been worse than the one they did at Seul so far! |-\

I agree.  I used to enjoy the olympic coverage but that must have
been 12 or more years ago.  I guess if you really want to see the
competition instead of talking heads you must now pay for it.  Since 
they are not showing soccer on the triplecast, I refused to pay the
$125.  So far I've watched 15 minutes of the opening ceremonies, 15
minutes of the dream team, and 15 minutes of volleyball.  I'm getting
my soccer coverage from here.  

Sam Estess
====================================================================================
Three cheers for all those cursing the NBC coverage and all the trash they
show in the name of `human interest' storeis....
I'm from India and we are a poor country and our TV is govt. controlled and yet
we used to have better coverage of the action with fairer commentators than the 
near bilge they show on NBC...
Once again Three cheers...
Sameer
From: t-frans@microsoft.com (Francis Stanisci)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: What the Dream Team Hopes to Prove
Date: 29 Jul 1992 09:59:45 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

From: Curtis E. Dyreson  writes:

>From article <9207281416.AA26422@BlackHole.hisoft.com>, by 
james@hisoft.com (James C. Armstrong):
> The NBA wants to expand into Europe.  FIBE wants a World Cup, with
> each league remaining within national boundaries.  By sending the best
> of the NBA, the US is showing the world exactly how far behind they
> are in basketball.  The hope is that it will show that any World Cup
> will be a farce, and it is better for the Europeans if they permit
> NBA expansion into Europe.

Huh?  The only two successful pro franchises that feature more foreign
than native players are the Montreal Expos and the Toronto Blue Jays,
(I`ll leave it up to the reader to decide whether Canada and the US
are really foreign countries).  Oh, and there's also the NHL where
Canada and the US also share hockey players.  So, based on past evidence,
NBA expansion into Europe just ain't gonna fly, unless there are a lot
of quality European players.

Curtis Dyreson

Francis:  And of course all the soccer teams in Europe use only native 
born athletes, RIGHT!  Come on, let's get a real discussion here.  Just 
look at the names of many of todays soccer players and one can 
speculate how many are native to the country they play for.  Many are not.

I agree with you to a point about the Dream Team.  However, with few 
exceptions these are the finest *available* to play.  The most 
disappointing thing for me is that this team shouldn't be there.  After 
all, who realistically stands a chance against them?  The Olympics is 
not a place to do marketing.  And unfortunately every change they make 
in the rules to accommodate *professionals* smells more of marketing.  
To me this changes the *value* of the Olympic games.

I watch the Olympics to see the finest *amateurs*, not your who's who 
of some sport.  It's all become too commercial.

My opinion of course.

Francis

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: jjook@fraser.sfu.ca (Jessica Jook)
Subject: Re: English Transfer (M.U.'s line up)
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 09:22:54 GMT

    Does anyone know  how will Manchester United's line up look
like next season?  What are the changes so far?  And how many
foreign players can they send to play the EC3 games?  Who
may that be ?

Thanks a lot.

--RAY--

 
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
From: louis@aie.nl (Louis Kossen)
Subject: Re: among the thugs
Organization: AI Engineering BV, Amsterdam, Netherlands
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 10:38:13 GMT

In article <1992Jul23.160818.6513@pony.Ingres.COM> cmorris@Ingres.COM (Colin Morris) writes:
>In article <YePNTGi00Uzx42WHAS@andrew.cmu.edu> "Paul M. Smith" <ps2g+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>>I'm new to this bboard as of July, so excuse me if this one's already
>>been done:  If anyone out there has read Bill Buford's Among the Thugs,
>>I'm interested in collecting responses to it. The thing is, I have to do
>>a review of it for an electronic journal, Postmodern Culture, and
>>thought it would be valuably postmodern, not to mention nicely cultural,
>>to see what netnews folk had to say about it.
>>
>I must admit that I haven't read the book, but I did hear Buford
>discussing it on National Public Radio's "Fresh Air". My impression
>was very much that here was another guy who wanted to be taken in by
>the American media's belief that every English soccer fan is a
>hooligan etc etc. What set him off on the hooligan trail was,
>apparently, the horror of a bunch of Liverpool supporters chanting
>"Liverpool, Liverpool" on a train in Wales. Real hard core
>hooliganism that...
>
>Interestingly, the only actual violence described by Buford on the
>program was that perpetrated by Italian police on English fans (and
>himself) during Italia '90. Maybe the book is rather more interesting
>than I suspect it is, but from the evidence I've heard I wouldn't risk
>treating it as an authoritative reference on English soccer
>hooliganism. 

I haven't read the book myself but i have read a review about it and
spoke about it to friend of mine who did some research on the subject
of football hooliganism. Their way of research was the same: participative
research. I don't know if this also means that you participate in
fighting etc. Well, what i have heard about the book of Buford is that
there are so many false facts in it. He is talking about matches that
have never been played. 


-- 


                                      louis kossen
                                      amsterdam
From: weisz@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (robert.weisz)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Poland - US match
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:09:34 GMT
Organization: AT&T

From article <Bs5oxL.Gpw@sun3.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca>, by rjromanc@sun1.vlsi.waterloo.edu (Richard Romanczyk):
> Does anyone know the result of the Poland - U.S. olympic soccer match that
> was played today ?
> 
> If so, please post it.  Thanks.
> 


Kickoff was 7 minutes ago and here I am sitting at work wishing for a 
shortwave radio tuned to the Warsaw station.

Robert Weisz
Naperville, Illinois USA
From: james@hisoft.com (James C. Armstrong)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Poor Dundee United
Date: 29 Jul 1992 15:17:41 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

On Ronnie's fixture list, he gives us:

-> Saturday August 8th
-> -------------------
-> PREMIER: Airdrie     v   Dundee Utd     Falkirk     v  Aberdeen
->          Celtic      v   Motherwell     Hibernian   v  Rangers
->          Dundee Utd  v   Hearts         St Johnstne v  Partick Thistle
-> 
-> FIRST:   Clydebank   v   Ayr United     Meadowbank  v  Morton
->          Dunfermline v   Hamilton       St Mirren   v  Dumbarton
->          Kilmarnock  v   Raith Rovers   Stirling Al v  Cowdenbeath
-> 
-> SECOND:  Alloa Ath   v   Berwick Rngrs  E.Stirling  v  Montrose
->          Arbroath    v   Brechin City   Forfar Ath  v  Queen of South
->          Clyde       v   Albion Rovs    Queen's Pk  v  Stranraer
->          East Fife   v   Stenhousemuir

It looks like a real tough road for Dundee United, playing two games
at once!
From: csfraw@vehka.uta.fi (Francis Akoto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: OZ vs DENMARK Olympic result 30/7/92
Date: 31 Jul 92 07:33:18 GMT
Reply-To: csfraw@vehka.uta.fi (Francis Akoto)
Organization: University of Tampere, Finland

In article <1992Jul31.021543.20949@marlin.jcu.edu.au> ccjwm@marlin.jcu.edu.au (John Miller) writes:
>Here come the results.  
>
>Well Australia beat Denmark 3 - 0.   Since Ghana drew 1 -1 with Mexico,
>the Olyroos are through to the next round along with Ghana.
>Not bad for two countries "without any real pedigree" in soccer eh? :-)
>Mexico and Denmark can go home.

If you knew a lot more about football you would never underate Ghana. They have
a lot of pedigree and if you need prove i will surely do that.

It seems all the world know about African football is Cameroon , but mark
my word Cameroon was just the tip of the iceberg. You've not seen nothing yet.


gallows



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