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From: bagg@ellis.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott)
Subject: Re: Derek Bailley (sp?)
Reply-To: bagg@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:31:53 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.214105.16053@shearson.com> dmandl@shearson.com writes:

>In article 9202@midway.uchicago.edu, bagg@ellis.uchicago.edu (matthew john baggott) writes:
>>Can anyone tell me anything about the career or recordings of Derek Bailley?
>> ...

>Why exactly did you post this to alt.drugs????  alt.music.progressive
>would be more appropriate and would probably get you a bunch of responses.

I was attempting to post to rec.music.bluenote and I suspect that
I accidentally followed-up on a message which had directed follow-ups
here.  So I'll take the time now to apologize to alt.drugs readers who
aren't interested in strange and wonderful music.  As I told someone
in e-mail, I think my error is amusingly appropriate since I had
just contributed a comment to a heroin-related thread on rec.music.
bluenote despite the fact that my comments were better suited for
alt.drugs.  

>   --Dave.
>
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    --Matt
From: kaz@iastate.edu (Errington Shroud)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Sources of vassopressin
Summary: Sources of vassopressin
Keywords: Vassopressin
Date: 7 Jan 93 04:43:31 GMT
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA

Does anyone have a current price quote and source for ordering vassopressin?
I would prefer to just order, rather then spending a couple weeks ordering
a price list and then ordering the spray... thanks!

Jeff "Kaz" Kaczmarek

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From: Diva@f729.n153.z1.ship.wimsey.bc.ca (Diva)
Sender: UUCP@ship.wimsey.bc.ca
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: rules for LSD
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 1993 12:46:07 -0800

I first tried LSD almost five years ago...and I remember I was told of a few
simple rules to remember when your high. I admit it is possible one could get
so high that they could not remember these rules, but they are a good idea
nonetheless. Here they are:
1) Cars can hurt you.
2) You cannot fly.
3) Its never a good time to die.
If those are stuck well enough in your mind, you will remember them no matter
how high you get....and they will keep you out of most kinds of danger on your
trip.

Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dc@ais.org (David Daniels)
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Organization: UMCC
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:50:58 GMT

anarch@Apple.COM (The Anarch) writes:

>In article <dc.726693757@ais.org> dc@ais.org (David Daniels) writes:
>>jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:
>>>   By the way, I recall reading somewhere that drug dogs can smell a drug
>>>hidden in an air-tight container in a full gasoline tank. This is a little
>>>hard to believe.
>>
>>In the paper here in Detroit, I read a few months ago that there is
>>a drug dog that can smell a joint going by in a car at 60 miles per hour.
>>The article also said that the dog could smell other drugs, but I can't seem
>>to recall which ones..  Should of saved the article.  Who knows how true it
>>is though.... Seems hard to believe.

>   Well, *I* can smell cigarettes in other cars on the freeway while I'm
>driving, if they have windows open, so I wouldn't be surprised at all if a
>dog could do as well.  It seems unlikely that they could pick out the right
>vehicle from the side of the road, though, if it were crowded.


  ... Not lit.. 

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From: an1223@anon.penet.fi (Joe Schmukytelli)
Subject: No Subject
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.drugs
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 15:18:42 GMT



In article <5254@ceylon.gte.com> RR04@bunny.gte.com (Rob Robertson)
writes:

|> 3)  Get word to ALF and ... (the rest deleted)
|
|ALF... Animal Liberation Front?
|
|Oui? Non?
|
|Rrrr

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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Date: Thu,  7 Jan 1993 19:43:11 -0500 
From: Michel Fougeres <mf0w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Nitrous

Doesn't this kill super amounts of brain cells super fast?  (Lots more than
are killed from drugs like marijuana, alcohol, LSD, X etc).
Any factual information (don't email me, just post it) would be appreciated.
Thanks, Ian
(can't think of a cool quote but the bong hit on the Beastie Boys LP is mint :)
Xref: sparky alt.drugs:20715 alt.magick:6704 alt.pagan:15131 talk.abortion:54744
From: alizard@tweekco.uucp (A.Lizard)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Looking for info on abortifacents
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 14:12:57 PST
Organization: Tweek-Com Systems BBS, Moraga, CA (510) 631-0615

dart@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Dartanyan) writes:
> 	No jokes or flames, please.  This is a situation in which the
> choice lies between the death of a fetus and the death of my wife.
> 
> 	Thank You.
> 						Sean Cannon
> --

Abortion is still legal in the USA, and is probably available at
local student health centers (posted from Purdue) and women's
health centers (available by referral, probably) ... you should
check your options before subjecting your wife to an EXTREMELY
dangerous procedure when performed by amateurs... you sound bent
on risking her life. Unnecessarily. Unless you can come up with
some VERY good reasons why your wife can't get a safe, legal
abortion, I doubt that anyone on this newsgroup is irresponsible
enough to give you the information in the form you requested.
A.Lizard

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From: Thyagi@cup.portal.com (Thyagi Morgoth NagaSiva)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs,alt.magick,alt.pagan,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: looking for information on abortifacents
Date: Sat,  9 Jan 93 09:59:51 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

93!01.09 e.v.  [1 9 93 1993!]


An anonymous person writes:

Keep in mind that there is NO "safe" method of abortion known to mankind.
No, *not* *one*.  They *all* can (and frequently do) have life-threatening
complications for the would-have-been mother.  There is no easy way.
					       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Response:

I am informed by some friends of mine who have some experience in this
area that the first statement is true.  There is no 'safe' method
inasmuch as given an overdose one could die.  HOWEVER, it does seem
that there are perfectly safe methods to abort given proper information
about tincture dosage.  I provide references below for those who could
tell you more...


Anonymous:

If it must be done, then it should be done by those *trained* to do it
in the safest manner.  *DON'T* trust your wife's life to people who are
so screwed up that they actually believe the junk posted in alt.magick.

...

I'd like to remind the folks on alt.magick and alt.pagan that one of the
chief accusations against the witches of old was that they caused abortions
and other such afflictions.  (This was back when people *wanted* children.)
Perhaps the accusation was *true*?...



Response:

To those who have been harmed by the Western Medical 'profession' your
words sound like more dogmatic bullshit.  That you take this sort of
attitude toward even the possibility of a REFERENCE from alt.magick
shows your narrow-mindedness.  Also, please brush up on your history.
You really are embarrassing yourself here.


References:

'The Herb Room' in Santa Cruz, CA.  Call (408) 555-1212 and ask for their #.

_Hygieia: A Woman's Herbal_, by Jeannine Parvati, Distributed by BOOKPEOPLE,
                             2940 7th St., Berkeley, CA 94710

Or email me for a personal reference who is a witch and herbalist.


Thyagi the witch-lover
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: vetter@mtu.edu (STEVEN J. VETTER)
Subject: Re: CBS 48 hours on LSD ;)
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:07:08 GMT


  What time is this program on, and what night?  If it is today, please
  tell me before 2:00 pm.  I've just got to know what kind of crap they're 
  planning to feed to everyone this time.

  Thanks, Steve.

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From: j1moody@darwin.cc.nd.edu (Joe Moody)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: drugs/danger, what's the corollary?
Date: 8 Jan 93 18:08:35 GMT
Followup-To: alt.drugs
Organization: University of Notre Dame

In article <C0FH12.5G@iat.holonet.net>, winder@iat.holonet.net (Dan
Hillman) wrote:
> 
>     Drugs aren't illegal because they are dangerous, they're dangerous
> because they're illegal. Having said that, let's develop this thought by
> slightly complicating the argument by asking "dangerous to whom?"

Most pro-legalization folks scream: "The war on drugs kills" citing gang 
violence, overstepping of civil liberties and general paranoia among other
examples.

Most anti-drug folks scream: "drugs kill" citing gang violence, addiction,
errosion of families, loss of self esteem, and general paranoia among other
examples.

Niether seems to want to give much ground to compromise with one another.
Yet drugs, as anything, are dangerous in misguided or naive hands. 

Prohibition obviously failed. But during prohibition, the rate of
alcoholism,
drunk driving and health problems from alcohol shrunk considerably.
Now that it's legal again, alcohol abuse kills hundreds of thousands a year
in
our country (USA) alone. 

I am against prohibition and understand the harm being done by the war on
drugs.
But we must confront and acknowledge the "can of worms" we'd be opening by
indescriminate legalization of life-altering chemicals
for anyone-the-hell that feels doing them.

Peace,

Joe
From: ez018080@hamlet.ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: FAQ-shrooms, nitrous
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:26:03 GMT
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


	I'd appreciate info or a FAQ on mushrooms and nitrous
	oxide, including damage to participant, proper methods 
	of doing them and anything else interesting.

	Gioni Pasquinelli
	gdpasquinelli@ucdavis.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: tovey@mullauna.cs.mu.OZ.AU (Gadget)
Subject: Re: LAUGHING GAS
Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 02:49:08 GMT

>>What do you mean 'tank'? Do you mean a large (3') bottle, or the tank on

>With "tank" I mean a standard industry/medical gas tank. They come in
>various sizes the smaller ones being something like 1 meter high and the
>bigger ones to the extent of 1.5 meters or so.

right. When I was at college (the first time), they had a nursing course. We
always planned to raid their building and steal the nitrous tank (a BIG one)
but somehow, never got around to it...
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From: jcollier@ariel.ucs.unimelb.EDU.AU (John Donald Collier)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: Mushrooms
Date: 5 Jan 1993 19:37:45 +1100
Organization: University of Melbourne
NNTP-Posting-Host: ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au

tonya@csa2.lbl.gov (TONYA PUONCEY) writes:

>disgusting to eat.  There have been some real good ones I've had, tasted 
>just like 'pizza topping' style mushrooms.... They were freeze dried.  
>If they've been in the back of a Dead Head's VW van at some shows in Las 
>Vegas in May or something, maybe that's why u got cramps.

They may have been regular mushrooms with LSD. These 
turn up every so often. Nothing wrong with them except
misleading advertising.




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Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:13:47 GMT

In article <jah.726793170@mits>, jah@mits.mdata.fi (Jani A. Heinonen) writes:
>   This has been an interesting thread, but I really don't see the point in
>bringing drugs to school. If you can't even wait till you get home, you
>obviously have a problem.

Your parents obviously respected your privacy.  Many do not.  For children
of those that do not, a high school locker is a godsend.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: danmar@mintir.new-orleans.la.us (Daniel Marsalone)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Want info on HUFFING
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 08:13:37 CST
Organization: Minas Tirith BBS (Public Access Usenet for New Orleans)

   I saw Maury Povich the other day and he had a show on huffing.
I had never heard of it before and the show was really lame. The just 
said that huffing was bad and "Say no to Huffing
   
     I want to know what the effects and side effects are.
 For those of you like me who don't know what huffing is, it is inhaling 
natural gas (propane, butane, etc.) to get high. 
    
    Does anyone out there have any experience doing this stuff?
  
    On of the kids on the show blew himself up. He and a group of friends 
were huffing (inhaling natural gas) in his basement, and then he lit a 
cigarette and the place exploded and het caught on fire. The guy's face 
and hands were melted. His legs were blown off and he had 97% of his body 
burned. I know that one of his friends was 50% burned. I don't know about 
the rest. 
   

Daniel Marsalone
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: rollins@netcom.com (Peter D. Nesbitt)
Subject: Native American Church
Keywords: church, peyote, mescaline, indians
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 06:36:07 GMT

Do any of you have any files or information about the Native American Church
or any other related churches that use peyote, mescaline, lsd in thier
religious rituals?

What is the latest government ruling on this?
Is the church just for true Native American Indians?
Do you have an address or phone contact to obtain info about the church?

Any info appreciated.


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: dlr@well.sf.ca.us (David L Racette)
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD 
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 15:36:18 GMT

In <726785207snz@spliff.demon.co.uk> journeyman@spliff.demon.co.uk (Andy Settle) writes:

>In article <1993Jan10.173453.18303@news.cs.indiana.edu> alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu writes:

>>I always understood that you had to have some entry point.  That can
>>be a cut, a scrape, or a mucous membrane where the substance can
>>enter.  If there was no contact like that, you'd have to have a
>>chemical carrier to take it "through" the skin.  

>That reminds me - didn't Aldous Huxley take LSD-25 with the aid of an
>eye dropper on his death bed, could be another urban myth :-(

>-- 
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Huxley did take Lsd when he was dying but it was an IM injection.
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: epasls@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: Re: 48 Hours with LSD
Date: 12 Jan 93 01:19:29 CST
Distribution: world
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services



In article <1it297INNl1s@hpscit.sc.hp.com>, dave@hpdstma.ptp.hp.com (Dave Waller) writes:
> In article <1993Jan10.173453.18303@news.cs.indiana.edu>, "amy lynn young-leith" <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
> 
> |> Then a discussion on here came up about "patches."  It seemed pretty
> |> well agreed that if you soaked a cotton ball in a solution of water
> |> and lsd, that if placed against the skin for a time, you'd start
> |> tripping.  This doesn't make sense toome.  If I take a bath, my skin
> |> soaks up water, but it doesn't allow water to pass through my skin and
> |> into my blood stream.  We'd all be running like hell when it rained
> |> because we'd be dead, not to mention we sure as hell wouldn't swim or
> |> take baths.  What's the scientific word on this? 
> 

Haven't you heard about the 'guns' that give drugs through the skin.
They look like the ones on star trek but they are real, they also 
sticng like a bitch(i've read).

Also, I was watching this very good documentary(actually just a video-
taped lecture) about lsd, and the instructor was telling the story
of the invention of lsd(or at least 1st trip, or synthesation), anyway
he said that this guy(doctor, or scientist) absorbed something like
2500 micrograms of lsd thru his skin(normal dose is 60-250) and the
significance was that his trip was the only objective trip because
he didn't know what was supposed to happen or anything.

Thats my incoherent 2 cents for the day.

BTW, in the drug dog thread someone e-mailed me this opinion:
If the dog catches me with a half oz of coke(jeez, thata a lot),
or even a small amount of pot in some states, then my life would
be ruined.

the guy then proceeds to try and blame his bad situation after being
caught on the dog.

surely this type of opinion is the exception and not the rule on a.d

thats like raping and killing your grandmother then haveing the police
put you in jail for 20 years and trying to bblame the police for your
problems.

Also just to ramble some more I smoked pot out of a bubble bong yesterday
and cannot believe the improvement, I dont smoke(tobacco), so the lack
of smoke made the experience 3 times more enjoyable.

Also I'm am about to experiment with acid for the first time, any fellow
trippers got any pointers.  I've got friends that tell me about it but
maybe you guys could add some info.  I got the tibetten book of the dead.
-- 

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From: fr_piap@works.uucp (frater piap)
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
Subject: drug test/cocaine
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 00:18:55 EST
Organization: The Works BBS - Informational Archives - Est. 1985

I am doing a paper and was wondering if anyone can give me insight as to 
how long after a person does coke does would a drug test cum up negative?
Also does adding salt to urine prior to a dt really help results come up 
negative??  I have also heard about the use of a herb called red clover 
to aid in cleaning the blood. .  Any liberating information appreciated.. 
Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: mmaryo@udecc.engr.udayton.edu (Michael J Maryo (U))
Subject: Blood Tests vs. Urine Tests
Organization: Univ. of Dayton, School of Engineering
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 09:31:07 GMT
Summary: Are blood tests more accurate? 

	Well, I have a question for everyone here in alt.drugs.  I do computer
work for a Blood Center here in Dayton Ohio part time while attending school.
When I was hired, I was informed that I would have to take a "blood test" to
make sure I didn't have anything unusual or dangerous in my blood.  She said
the --Main-- thing they test for is viruses such as Hepatitus B and Aids, etc.
	I just took my blood test the other day, and they took a very LARGE
sample for testing, 3 times the amount of blood that they test on normal
donors at the blood bank.  This seems a bit odd to me, and I am curious as 
to the possibility of them testing for drug use.  I know that there are ways
to play around with Urine tests, but I don't think there are too many ways to
do anything about blood tests other than to NOT use any drugs.  Is it possible
to detect Marijuana in the bloodstream longer than that in urine?  I am a bit
worried about the testing, because no one seems to _know_ exactly what they
test for.  The nurses just draw the blood and have no clue exactly what they
test for, and I can't seem to get any answers from anyone without making it
obvious that I am worried about it.  ;-)  I'm sure my lab results will be a 
bit strange anyway, since I was out drinking the night before, and took 
a caffiene pill before work, not to mention smoking cigarettes on a regular
basis.  I think that the last time that I have been st0ned is about 2-3 weeks
before the test.  I hope that I am ok.  I didn't know they were going to draw
the blood until the day of the test.  I get to work and get the old "oh, by
the way, you have to get your blood test today!"  
	Has anyone ever heard of employers requesting BLOOD tests?  I know a
lot of companies do Urine tests and sometimes sample your hair for drug testing
but how about blood testing?  

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From: rollins@netcom.com (Peter D. Nesbitt)
Subject: drug dogs
Keywords: drug dogs, counter-warfare
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 06:32:27 GMT

Wouldn't it be great if you could get an extract or essence of
"Female-Dog-In-Heat"!  Just spray that stuff all over the place
where drug dogs might be sniffing around!  Watch 'em go crazy.

Course, you wouldn't want to spray that stuff in your home or
in your locker...


Newsgroups: alt.drugs
From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: Drug dog
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:14:43 GMT


Everyone who is suggesting planting false positives all over the place
is missing the obvious best choice:  the police car they show up in!
:-)

-Howard
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