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From: pml3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Paul Michael Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Star Wars is NOT literature
Date: 19 Dec 92 20:10:22 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

>>I have no objection to people enjoying Star Wars.  That's fine.  I grew up
>>with the movies, too, but I know where to draw the line.
>
>>The problem arises when people overanalyze the movies.  They are NOT
>>literature.  IMO, they aren't even well written.  When interpolating what
>>Lucas 'might have meant' or 'implied', that's where the pitfall arises.
>
>>Hollywood doesn't intend to produce well-written or meaningful entertainment.
>>Star Wars was not produced to induce thought or empathy.  Star Wars was simply
>>eye candy.  A lot of neat space ships, cool costumes, and a couple good actors
.
>>Over analyzing something that was intended for good-natured entertainment is
>>like getting blood from a stone.
>
>>This is not a flame or even a criticism.  The movies were good, but I think
>>they have to be put into perspective.
>
>Regardless of your intentions, going onto rec.arts.sf.starwars and calling
>the films "simply eye candy" would probably qualify as a criticism for
>most of us.

Hardly.  It's eye candy, but good eye candy at that.  But that's as far as
I'll go.


>The mere fact that this newsgroup exists should maybe give you a hint that
>the Star Wars movies do indeed contain a good deal worth talking about
>and are not merely empty entertainment.

There are tons of newsgroups with pointless discussions in them!  The talk
here simply tells me that there are a lot of people with too much time on
their hands.


>What is meaningful literature and what isn't is entirely subjective; our
>perspective, however, is that the Star Wars films not only

> look good

Agreed.


>, but are also thought-provoking,

You guys really need to read some books.


> moving,

What is 'moving' about them?  The only thing that slightly affected me was
when Han was frozen.  And that's probably because Harrison Ford was playing
him.


> philosophical,

?


> complex,

Was the plot COMPLEX?  Simple good vs. evil battle with stock characters.
Do you read?


> and dramatic as well.

There was some drama, but often overly melodramatic, as in the end of Return
of the Jedi (uugggghh).


> If that's not meaningful literature, it's darned close.

Meaningful?  I'll say it's entertaining, but I don't think 'entertaining'
qualifies a work as literature.




OK, discussion over.  Everyone can continue with their discussions about what
Lucas 'may have intended', compiling lists of every word Yoda said, or
pondering exactly who Biggs was...

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Subject: Re: Star Wars vs. ____________.
From: wookiee@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:20:45 -0600
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars
 <BORO.92Dec17152817@idefix.ph2.uni-koeln.de> <1992Dec17.151759.25782@udel.edu> <1992Dec17.162659.27704@udel.edu>
Distribution: all cross overs...
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <1992Dec17.162659.27704@udel.edu>, darkstar@mocha.cns.udel.edu (The Janitor Of Anarchy) writes:
> In article <1992Dec17.151759.25782@udel.edu> bragg@pecan.cns.udel.edu (Aquatic Joe) writes:
>>
>>
>>	With all these Star Wars vs. _______ postings of late, I noticed
>>that there are some battles that we've been overlooking...  So instead
>>of the hackneyed Star Wars vs. Star Trek vs. Galactica (those losers
>>couldn't even find their home...what makes you think they could fight
>>any intellegent villians!) here's some of battles that would be truly
>>titanic!
>>
>>		Star Wars vs.  Space Familiy Robinson
>>			(C3PO vs. The Family Robot)
>>
>>		Star Wars v. Pigs in Space (wait that DID happen--sorry)
>>
>>		R2D2 v. HAL9000
>>			(R2...what do you think you're doing R2...)
>>		
>>		IG-88 v. Robbie the Robot
>>			(why not?  Robbie the Robot has been in
>>			 everything else!)
>>
>>		Those Mouse Droids on Death Stars and Star Destroyers
>>		vs.  Turbo RC Racers (with 9.6V rechargable battery)		
>>
>>	Well that's enough to get started...what do you think?
>>
>>
>>-- 
>>Adam Bragg                  | 
>>bragg@freezer.cns.udel.edu  |      Please let go of my cape...
>>darkwing@ravel.udel.edu     |                           -Batman
>>                          SPOON!
> 
> 
> 
> Well, how about:
> 
> 	Darth Vader's Respirator vs. The Exhaust System On
> 				     My '83 Renault Alliance		
> 
> 	Or what about Star Wars vs. Space 1999
> 
> 	Or better yet, Luke vs. Mork
> 
> 
> 	--Jerry
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> 
> Jerry Alexandratos            | "If you want to get a head,
> darkstar@freezer.cns.udel.edu |  you got to get a hat!"
> darkstar@bach.udel.edu        |    --"Skin Trade"

          You forgot:

                Wickett the Ewok vs. Santa Bear

             or       A Tauntaun vs. Joe Camel

             or      Luke & Leia vs. Wonder Twins

             lastly         R2D2 vs. the Michellangalo virus


-- 

          "I have a new strategy, Artoo. Let the Wookiee win." - C3PO

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From: s37755c@taltta.hut.fi (Jochen Grandell)
Subject: Re: Favorite Star Wars Moments
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 02:19:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec13.135533.2377@Princeton.EDU> goodnuff@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (David Wayne Goodnuff) writes:
>My favorite sceen/thing/etc has gotta be in ESB:
>Leia:	"I love you."
>Han:	"I know."
>and in ROTJ:
>Han:	"I love you."
>Leia:	"I know."


	I double that. Especially the one in ESB is such a dramatic and 
	traditional love-scene, but anyway one of the best I've ever seen. 
	Somehow you get a feeling they belong tight to each other, and feel 
	sorry for Leia losing Han. To me, this was a significant change in
	the series since I didn't like Leia's character at all before that.
	
	Never thought I was this sentimental...

	Jochen




Jochen.Grandell@hut.fi

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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: Star Destroyer question
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:26:50 GMT


	A couple responses made no sense.  I asked if a star
destroyer could be housed (docked) inside the death star.  One
person responded as if I asked could a death star DESTROY a star
destroyer.  Of course it can.  Another person reminded me that
the Executor collided with the death star.  So?  An object of
ANY size could collide with the death star.  Only a relatively
small object could be housed inside of one.  So I repeat my
question.
					-Quinn
From: barnabas@terapin.com (Colin Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: New Star Wars Movies
Date: 20 Dec 92 00:21:42 PST
Organization: BBS

Are there going to be any more Star Wars movies? With all this new Movie
technology, George Lucas could have a field day with sepcial effects... Is this
a FAQ?
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From: k138836@cc.tut.fi (Korhonen Tommi)
Subject: Re: Imperial Shuttles
Organization: Tampere University of Technology, Finland
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 23:07:28 GMT



>In article <Bz9Hs0.733@news.cso.uiuc.edu> caine@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Dark Lord of the Sith) writes:
>>
>>Correction---> X-Wing fighters do not have hyperspace capabilities.  However,
>>they can be fitted with the hyperdrive engines.  As far as I know, Luke's
>>X-Wing is the only one with hyperdrive.  It's in the Star Wars Sourcebook
>>and in the Timothy Zahn books Star Wars: "Heir To The Empire" and "Dark Force 
>>Rising."

That's one point I'd flame on Zahn. I just don't believe his books have 
just anything to do with the 'to be' movies. Clearly all the X-Wings are
mounted with hyperdrive, as in RotJ it is shown. How do you think these
'defending' x-wings from Hoth escorting haulers would have survived
imperial forces? Rebellions main power lays in fast manouverability,
in small and large scale. They hit and run. Normal tactics for forces being 
overpowered. I'd believe mor likely Star Wars RPG than Zahn, in fact
RPG agrees with me.
You must remeber that also Alan Dean Foster wrote "sequel" to Star Wars.
And he had not gotten permission from Lucasfilm, he WOULD NOT HAVE written
it, and as we see, it was not very cannon.

I may be starting an epsiode of Flame Wars here, but I don't care, I
hate Zahn. The books don't hav the spirit of the universe. Even a 
good (I mean GOOD) rpg campaing could do better.



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From: paul@pj.tmc.edu (Thorongil)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: What is 'letterbox'?
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:50:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: ra.1992Dec14.175033.29923
Organization: Mississippi State University ERC

>	Seems to me "lebeld" is describing the old boxed set (the one with
>the 3 Pan and Scan versions).  The letterboxed edition comes in a big box
>with a hologram  on the front and goes for about $99 US.

Unless you get it on sale for less.  I've seen the price range from 
$89 - $99 in MS.  I'm sure elsewhere you might be able to find it on
sale for a better price.

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From: joshuali@usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: POLL TIME!!!
Date: 11 Dec 1992 17:28:29 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
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OK truthfully now...

How many of you dusted off your copy of the Star Wars Christmas album?

If yes: How long did you listen to it before hitting STOP?

If no: WHY THE HELL NOT? IT'S X-MAS DAMMIT!!!!!!!!


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From: kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu (Sean Kennedy)
Subject: Re: Star Destroyer question
Organization: Swarthmore College
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 19:52:46 GMT

k138836@cc.tut.fi (Korhonen Tommi) writes:


>In <1992Dec11.233325.12731@ll.mit.edu> shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham) writes:

>>At the begining of ROJ, Vader takes a shuttle from the SD to the DS. Clearly
>>the SD was there for the sole purpose of transporting Vader from wherever he
>>was before (Bespin?). A SD, and not a shuttle is used for the mundane task of
>>shutteling Vader because he is important enough to demand the amenities of
>>a large ship (remeber Air-Sununu, everyone).
>>Have it been possible to dock a SD on the DS, the DS - allready dedicated to
>>the task of shutteling Vader - would have done so.
>>for. They sure look big enough for a SD.

>>- What do you guys think?
>Perhaps they COULD dock. But only like dry docking? (Is that spelled right?)
>Like for maintenance, hull modifications etc. 
>And not for just for 'freight dropping'. Just like the sea vessels.

>I (yes, just me) think that even the bigger docking bays aren't big enough
>for stardestroyers: I will not argue here about the measures, but it 
>is said in the novellisations that Star Destroyers are HUGE, so incredibly
>big compared to Falcon, that not even those enormous bays could hold
>destroyers. 
>But: we see only few bays... Perhaps...

	I was leafing through a Star Wars book in a bookstore the other day
(it was some book about the creation of Star Wars) and it mentioned that
star destroyers were supposed to be about 6 miles long!

			--Sean
			  kennedy@cs.swarthmore.edu
From: lebeld@JSP.UMontreal.CA (David Lebel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: What is 'letterbox'?
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:03:43 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal -- Montreal, PQ, Canada

In article <SS.92Dec14121700@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:

>Yes, this new boxed set was released recently, and is letterboxed.
>Also has "From SW to Jedi" I think too.

	How can I be sure?


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From: bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Upcoming comics./Dark Empire #6
Date: 16 Dec 92 16:20:55 GMT
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

In article <1992Dec15.114020.2502@dct.ac.uk> bssbc3gsd@dct.ac.uk (Grant Doig) writes:
>In article <1992Dec14.135831.1476@uvm.edu>, cblaise@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (Chris Blaise,Finger me - I love it.) writes:
>> From article <1992Dec14.011237.13605@njitgw.njit.edu>, by bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu (Brian Perler):
     ^^^^^^^^^^^^
Hey!  That's me!  But... but... I didn't write anything in the quoted
article!  What gives?  (Subtle reminder:  watch your attributions!)

>> 	On the subject of SW comics, I recently re-read Dark Empire and have
>> changed my mind about it - it certainly could been done better.  While I 
>> really thought the story was fresh and exciting, most of Veitch's 
>> characterizations really turned me off.  For instance, issue #4 when
>> one of the Emporor's guards is holding back Han, Leia slashes "it's" hand
>> and shouts "Let go of my husband, you overgrown freak!"  I have to question
>> what the hell happened to such a powerful figure in ANH and ESB.
>> 
>Personally, i thought it was good until issue six, when it went downhill.
>
>******spoiler coming up(in case you've not read it yet..AND WHY NOT!!)

[Spoiler - and a lot of blank space protecting it - deleted]

>What did everyone else think of the ending...????

I agree with you - it was rather lame and forced (no pun intended).
Of course, I didn't care much for the rest of the series, either (the
art turned me off, plus I didn't feel that they were the same
characters I had seen in the movies.  A big minus for any Star Wars
adaptation that can't get the characters right.)

-- 
Brian Perler			bxp1628@hertz.njit.edu
"I wanna decide who lives and who dies"
	-Crow T. Robot, "Santa Claus Conquers the Martians," MST3K
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From: 4224_5201@uwovax.uwo.ca (John LaRocque)
Subject: Re: how much is the new Dark Horse comic worth?
Organization: University of Western Ont, London
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 02:45:42 GMT

In article <BzDIyy.2oC@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, rku45136@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Rajiv Udani) writes:
> I know there are six comics in the new star wars comic series. how much
> are they worth? how many were reprinted?

You are too late. They are way too much because no one bought them
when they came out. I paid $5 for #1 and it is going for about $15-$20
I have warned people in this newsgroup before to buy this stuff NOW 
before it is beyond their price range.

Make sure to pick up the British Star Wars Dark Empire release coming
in January from Dark Horse. This is one awesome Star Wars story, better
than ALL of the Marvel's SW comibined.

In the British SW #1 - you get (this from my Comics Etc 23) -
   1. 2 Star Wars Cards
   2. an album for the Star Wars cards (buy the other issues to complete your
      set
   3. and reprints of Indiana Jones: Fate of Atlantis and SW Dark Empire

> Also, how much are those CLassic SW comics going for?
> it seems to me that these are now worth more than the Marvel Comics series.
> (I'm a little pissed because I have all 107 Marvel comics +annuals, etc
> and they seem to be worthless :(  )
> 
> rajiv

#1 Most of the Marvels, especially the last 60 issues, are completely
   worthless. The early stuff by Goodwin/Chaykin and Goodwin/Infantino/Day
   are the best. And the ESB's by Al Williamson are great. But the series is
   junk and will never be valuable. This was a VERY popular series by Marvel,
   and thus, by the inverse law of talent, had generally worse stories and art
   then books of lower print runs. I knew with the last year that this series
   had to buy the farm.

#2 Classic Star Wars. Gee, I dunno. They are on issue #3 (soon to be #4),
and if you are smart (yes you are.... Ben invokes some Jedi persuasion...
buy these books now...). These are EDITED versions of the classic Goodwin/
Williamson newspaper strips. Redundant material was left out, new art added
in. Refomratted for a comic book. Still very good. Buy them now.......


#3  The entire unexpurgated strip was available from Russ Cochran for big
bucks - $210 Canadian here - signed limited 2-volume hardcover leatherbound
books. This is the complete Williamson. I suggest that all of us send letters
to Cochran to reprint the colorized entire Willilamson run in a cheaper
format for all the Star Wars nuts on the net. Cochran is a publisher who
actually listens to his customers (as we know from all the complaints 
on the cards inserted in the Carl Barks albums, as well as the death of
the EC giant comics). $40 is a good price for a cheap set of the whole
run, isn't it.

Yeah, yeah, and may the force be with you



-- 

John P. LaRocque
vader@uwo.ca
University of Western Ontario
London, Ontario


"Urk..urk..."
"Apology accepted, Captain Needa", Darth Vader
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From: wggray@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Wild Bill)
Subject: Re: Star Destroyer question
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 13:33:33 EST

In article <1992Dec11.151333.24366@galileo.cc.rochester.edu> thpr_ss@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Thomas Parker) writes:
>In <1992Dec11.135032.22235@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
>
>
>>	Can a death star house a star destroyer?  I know star
>>destoyers are big, but it really looked like the ship in ANH was
>>heading for the death star head-on, not preparing for orbit,
>>or something.
>>						-Quinn
>
>
>I would assume a death star could do the same thing to a star destroyer
>that it did to the rebel cruisers in ROTJ.  POOF!
>
>Tom Parker

	I got the impression that he meant "house", as in, containing
	a Star Destroyer, like, does it have docking bays for them,
	etc... I could be wrong about that. According to the research
	done by one Cameron?(sorry, I forgot his name. Apologies), the
	Death Star was something like 540km diameter(I might be off)
	so I'd think that a Docking bay -could- be built to service
	Star Destroyers, But I don't think they made any. Just my
	opinion.:-)
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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Cool questions (was: why don't all you star wars fans get a life)
Date: 14 Dec 92 07:51:02
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: joshuali@aludra.usc.edu's message of 14 Dec 92 03:46:52 GMT

>>>>> On 14 Dec 92 03:46:52 GMT, joshuali@aludra.usc.edu (Joshua Ling) said:

joshuali> In article <SS.92Dec13144047@wpi.WPI.EDU> ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter) writes:
>>>>>> On 13 Dec 92 16:14:03 GMT, lars4752@mach1.wlu.ca (Bradley Larsen u) said:
>
>lars4752> In TESB, who is this Hobby that Luke keeps referring to
>lars4752> during the snowspeeder scenes?  He's obviously must be a
>lars4752> pilot, but why is he cut from the film?
>
          I was another speeder pilot. He was mentioned in the script.
joshuali> ^
joshuali> |
joshuali> Really...Who were YOU in ESB?  8-)

joshuali> Hobbie is the dork who asks..."Two fighters against a
joshuali> stardestroyer?"

Opps  :)

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From: ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Sean Alan Squier)
Subject: Re: IG-88
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:13:16 GMT


 In article <1992Dec15.220314.5740@Virginia.EDU> qtm2w@Virginia.EDU  
("Quinn T. McCord") writes:
>> 
>> "	Some people have written on this net about how neat
>>  IG-88 looked.  Actually, I thought he was kind of spindly, but
>>  he *did* have a really neat machine-gun like laser rifle.
>>  Nevertheless, I think the concept of the character really makes
>>  no sense.  I mean, would a droid really make a good bounty
>>  hunter?  He'd have no human intuition to go on, and he
>>  certainly wouldn't have any way to make "contacts" like human
>>  bounty hunters could.  I read somewhere that his owners "rent"
>>  him out for bounty hunting, but I sure wouldn't pay.  I'd even
>>  hire out those hideous insect-like ones before him.
>>  
>> 						-Quinn           "
>> 

I think the best example over-looked here as far as droids making good
bounty hunters....Anybody ever see the TERMINATOR?  Sure he isn't
covered in skin to look human, but he didn't need to be in th SW
universe.  

Sean Squier
(Future CEO - The Walt Disney Company)
ssquier@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
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Subject: Re: Star Wars MUD
From: tyrone@kiwi.gen.nz (Tyrone McGurk)
Date: 16 Dec 92 07:58:59 GMT
Organization: Household UNIX, Auckland, New Zealand
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I'm just new to this news group but what is MUD?.
a MUD program?
Mudding?

Thanks for the patients with me

Tyrone
From: hofle@cs.utexas.edu (Andrew Christopher Hofle)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Favorite Star Wars Moments
Date: 11 Dec 1992 23:46:35 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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In article <1992Dec12.020221.12864@u.washington.edu> redrum@carson.u.washington.edu (Joe Stremick) writes:
>
>	Here's a question:
>	What is your favorite Star Wars moments?
>	Like a scene, a line, a situation, etc. that you find
>particularly appealing or meaningful.
>

One of my favorite lines was when Ben and Luke were trying to hire Han
as an escort.

Han:  ...You mean you haven't heard of the Millenium Falcon ?!!?

Ben:   Should I have?

--Andy



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