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From: g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh)
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
Organization: University Of Wollongong
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 92 22:21:22 GMT

rroy@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Raja R Roy) writes:



>In article <1992Sep7.095628.6354@cc.uow.edu.au> g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil sh
>aikh) writes:
>>hdeshma@eos.ncsu.edu (HARSHAVARDHAN  DESHMANE) writes:
>>
>>>all your ranting is getting on my nerves.
>>>Do you really think, all your bullshit, and other Indians' too, will
>>>make an iota of difference to the situation in Kashmir,India ?
>>
>>>Besides, in your next article , you point out that Hindus are "only 4%"
>>>of the population in Kashmir. 
>>>You almost imply, that their opinion does not count. 
>>^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Raja:

Kashmiri minorities opinion must be taken and I made it clear in
my very first article in which I wrote 4% hindus in Kashmir that
bfore plebiscit Minority must go to Kashmir.

Bye
Adil


>>Their opinion counts and in my article I also said that Hindus
>>must go to Kashmir to take part in Plebiscit(if ever taken).
>>Looking to present situation in the Valley ( I saw News treck video
>>by India Today) the decision seems to be the one in the hand of the 
>>majority community.
>>
>>>By YOUR logic,and by arriving at an answer to the following questions,
>>>do you think a few dissenting voices ought to be heard?
>>>Question: How much of the population of India is made up of residents
>>>of the Indian state of Kashmir, including the unfortunate people
>>>residing on the land illegally occupied by pakistan?
>>
>>
>>This question can is as silly as any kid can ask.
>>
>>This is fundamental fact that Kashmir is a colony of India and PAkistan.
>>The people of Kashmir never joined with India or Paksitan.
>>
>>
>>One question will make everything clear.
>>
>>
>>In 1947-48 period, Sardar Patel(the Home Minister) joined
>>Junagadh(whose Nawab wanted to join with Pakistan)
>>and 
>>Hyderabad Deccan(whose Nawab wanted to remain independent)
>>with India .
>>
>>He said if the people of Junagadh and Hyderabad wanted to join with
>>India then these regions had to join with India.
>>
>>He was the mastermind behind three way attack on Hyderabad Nizam.
>>
>>While in the Kashmir he made all agreement with the PM of Kashmir.
>>
>>
>>Where the people of Kashmir gone?
>>
>>WHERE IS THE TRUTH, Mr. Harsh and all those who advocate wrong propaganda?
>>
>>
>>>as an aside, with only a little bearing to this discussion, are you from
>>>Kashmir? if so, where in Kashmir?
>>

>          Adil, why did not you answer this question ? Are you upset over
> the question or what ? 

>Raja



>>
>>>-harsh
>>>-- 
>>>_____________________________________________________________________________
>__
>>>Harshavardhan Deshmane                                 I had a signature
>>>ECE Dept.,                                             it became an address:(
>>>North Carolina State University.                       had@csl36h.csl.ncsu.ed
>u
>>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: harbirk@ifi.uio.no (Harbir Singh Kohli)
Subject: Toronto
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 08:23:01 GMT
Originator: harbirk@langlia.ifi.uio.no



I am travelling to Toronto, with a friend from London. 

We are looking for accomodation in Toronto/Wollonga area in mid-October 
for 1 week -10 days.

We can offer/(exchange) accomodation in Oslo/London/ in October or sometime
later at your convenience. 

Alternatively I will be grateful if someone can offer advice on cheap places 
to stay in Toronto/Wollonga area.

Thanks,

kohli
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Kashmir Campaign
From: mg819305@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod)
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 92 20:59:25 GMT
Organization: University of Cincinnati

In article <1992Sep4.084717.11271@cc.uow.edu.au> g9220348@cc.uow.edu.au (adil shaikh) writes:
>
>
>For Kashmir for Kashmiris:
>
>Utho utho ae Kashmirr
>Bahot ho chuki kohra si zindagi
>
>Seh chuka zulm-o-sitam
>bahot ho chuki sabra ki zindagi
>
>Na hai vatan Hind apna Na hi koi Pakistan
>Hai vatan Apna vatan Pyara Vatan 
>
>Vo hai vatan Kashmir 
>Vo hai vatan Kashmir
>Vo hai vatan Kashmir
>
>Badal chuki voh Dharti German
>Yak ho gai zamiN  Yaman
>
>Socho Abtak kuN haiN
>DAKHAL BE-DAKHAL HAM HI HAM.
>
>Utho utho ae Kashmiri
>Bahot ho chuki kohra si zindagi
>
>
>Bye
>Adil

Adil, I think you are an Indian.  Do you have any suggestions for
Kashmir?  According to me Kashmir does not want to stay with India
or Pakistan.  If we let Kashmir go, Pakistan will just take it 
over, we cannot let that happen, can we?  

Manoj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bkannan@ha06.eng.ua.edu (Balaji Kannan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Date: 6 Sep 1992 16:19:55 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



In article <1992Sep06.200900.152442@ua1ix.ua.edu> ngopalas@ho12.eng.ua.edu (Nath
 S. Gopalaswamy) writes:


>Pro-lifer and damn proud of it.
>

  That should have been "Pro-lific and damn proud of it" ;) 

  In more ways than one ;) ;)

  BK

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sundi@iastate.edu (Sundar Narayanan)
Subject:  ALUMNI OF MANIPAL INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY- LETS GET IN TOUCH
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 21:14:49 GMT

           Hi, 
              I'm Sundar and I graduated from MIT this June. I've started on
           the MBA program at IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY. After coming here I've
           been wondering if there is any way by which all we former MITians
           in the U.S could stay in touch with each other. I'm not too sure
           whether each and every one of you wants to do so but I guess at-
           least some of you would.
              I was wondering if each one of you could post your e-mail add-
           ress and phone number with your name,year of graduation from
           MANIPAL and your branch of engineering to soc.culture.indian so
           that other old MITians could contact you if they wanted.
              About MIT, nothing has changed;
            Maybe you'll be interested in some titbits:
           
           * KK still prowls around....
           * H.K.V.R is the new Mech HOD....
           * Alladi is retiring in Dec(rumour).....
           * B.S Bairi may become Princi (rumour)......
           * Hi-fi CAD lab started.....
           * First time we had an intra-collegiate CULTURAL WEEK, 5.30p.m
             onwards daily for a week.........
           * No fights.....
           * REVELS attracted 19 colleges....
           * Bikes on the increase......
           * Night canteen called 'UPHAAR' has been started in the place
             of D-8 (don't know if it was there when you were around)....
           * Shaaaady (Comp.Sc) kicked out.....
           * This year's college mag is called "AD ASTRUM" which means 
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              I've run out of ammunition. Get in touch folks... I'm at
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             TEL NO: (515)-292-9637
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                Hope to hear from you all soon....
                                           Bye  
                                              SUNDAR
                            Graduated from MANIPAL-  June 1992
                            Branch- E&E
Newsgroups:soc.culture.indian 
Distribution: u.s.a   
Date: Sun Sep  6 19:50:03 1992 GMT
Followup-To: 
From: sundi@IASTATE.EDU (Sundar Narayanan)
Reply-To: sundi@IASTATE.EDU (Sundar Narayanan)
Organization: Iowa State University
Subject: ALUMNI OF MANIPAL INSTITUTE OF TECHNOLOGY- LETS GET IN TOUCH
Keywords: MANIPAL


           Hi, 
              I'm Sundar and I graduated from MIT this June. I've started on
           the MBA program at IOWA STATE UNIVERSITY. After coming here I've
           been wondering if there is any way by which all we former MITians
           in the U.S could stay in touch with each other. I'm not too sure
           whether each and every one of you wants to do so but I guess at-
           least some of you would.
              I was wondering if each one of you could post your e-mail add-
           ress and phone number with your name,year of graduation from
           MANIPAL and your branch of engineering to soc.culture.indian so
           that other old MITians could contact you if they wanted.
              About MIT, nothing has changed;
            Maybe you'll be interested in some titbits:
           
           * KK still prowls around....
           * H.K.V.R is the new Mech HOD....
           * Alladi is retiring in Dec(rumour).....
           * B.S Bairi may become Princi (rumour)......
           * Hi-fi CAD lab started.....
           * First time we had an intra-collegiate CULTURAL WEEK, 5.30p.m
             onwards daily for a week.........
           * No fights.....
           * REVELS attracted 19 colleges....
           * Bikes on the increase......
           * Night canteen called 'UPHAAR' has been started in the place
             of D-8 (don't know if it was there when you were around)....
           * Shaaaady (Comp.Sc) kicked out.....
           * This year's college mag is called "AD ASTRUM" which means 
             'Reach for the Stars' in Latin.....
            
              I've run out of ammunition. Get in touch folks... I'm at
             PLACE: Ames
             UNIVERSITY: Iowa State University
             DEPT: Business Admn
             TEL NO: (515)-292-9637
             E-MAIL ADDRESS: sundi@iastate.edu
             
                Hope to hear from you all soon....
                                           Bye  
                                              SUNDAR
                            Graduated from MANIPAL-  June 1992
                            Branch- E&E
From: forgach@noao.edu (Suzanne Forgach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Date: 11 Sep 92 01:39:20 GMT
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories, Tucson, AZ, USA
Originator: forgach@gemini.tuc.noao.edu

From article <95476@bu.edu>, by kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star):
> In article <92250.091118RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
> 
>>the postings of  Susan Forgach have  been an enormous
>>comfort to me.  Her position is more strict than mine, but only because
>>she is ALWAYS willing to put morality before pragmatism.
> 
> I hate to break this to you, Rohit---but Suzanne doesn't place much value
> on Eastern Religion...she told me that anyone who believes in such
> religions is deluding themselves.

Excuse me, but you've obviously taken something I've said out of context.
Probably willfully.

 
> Plus, she obviously has no respect for Buddhism and vegetarianism.

This is bolony too.   
And I even have relatives and friends who are vegetarians.


> (And has she seen the Seventh Day Adventist Church?)

Are you kidding?  I DATED a vegetarian Seventh Day Adventist for 2 YEARS!
For the record, he was pro-abortion and very INtolerant of my meat eating
and my anti-abortion stance.   Yet he was so anti-choice about _my_ own
body that he threw a temper-tantrum in the mall when I had my ears pierced.

Now ask me why it didn't last.


> Brian

Suzanne Forgach
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aston@world.std.com (Kevin E Turner)
Subject: JOB: Mac Consultants Wanted; F-1, B-1 Visas Apply; Boston; Full-time
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 23:55:03 GMT


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,talk.abortion,talk.politics.misc
From: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com (J H Woodyatt)
Subject: General conservative lunacy (was: Arrogant Indians...)
Followup-To: talk.politics.misc
Reply-To: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com
Organization: Abiogenesis 4 Less
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 02:54:27 GMT

sunder@altair.crhc.uiuc.edu (Srinivas Sunder) writes:
# Listen closely: Conservatives and libertarians oppose GOVERNMENT-sponsored 
# social programs, not ALL social programs for the simple reason that they
# believe the Government to be a bad allocator and spender of the taxpayers'
# money, and that the private sector + charitable organizations are better at 
# doing these things. A clear example is the incredibly slow and inneficient 
# response of the Federal Emergency Management Agency to Hurricane Andrew. 
# Charitable and private organizations were doing a darned better job of
# cleaning up the place than was FEMA.

I didn't notice that as soon as FEMA announced it would be bringing
aid to the hurricane victims, that charitable and private
organizations, and the victims themselves, rose up in righteous
indignation to tell the Feds that their inefficient bumbling efforts
to help people were an unnecessary waste of the taxpayers' money --
better spent on reducing government debt, national defense, law
enforcement, and tax refunds...

``Gee thanks, Mr. Bush, for your promise to pick up the tab for
cleaning up after Andrew, but we think we can handle it ourselves.
Haven't you got an evil empire to be defending us against?''

I must be subscribed to the wrong news services.

-----

#                                                                   ... At the
# same time, pro-choicers who argue that fathers have no say in the decision of
# whether or not a fetus should be aborted should not yell from the rooftops to
# crack down on deadbeat dads who don't pay their child-support.

God forbid that a *man* should have to take any responsibility for the
consequences of his sexual behavior...

I mean, after all, if abortion were safe and legal those deadbeat dads
could have had their fetuses aborted rather than have to support those
children, right?

What nerve.

-----

Followups to t.p.m -- where they probably belong.

-- 
J H Woodyatt (a.k.a. Dr. Strychnine)
Space Systems/Loral

"there's a lot going on that you miss. nothing soft about THESE
machines. mean, timeless, mean, purposeful, crammed with meaning."
                                                  -- Andrew Palfreyman
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kurdikar@methacrylate.ecn.purdue.edu (Dev)
Subject: Is Japanese visa needed when flying NW/AI thro' Tokyo ?
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:44:01 GMT

Hi,
	I will be flying by the popular NW/AI link to Bombay, but as you
probably know, I need to stay one night in Tokyo ?  Do I need to have a visa
before I land in Tokyo ?  Or is it given at the airport like Hong Kong does ?
	Also, a friend of mine who is a US citizen is flying with me ? Will that
person need a visa too ?
	Would appreciate all replies.
Thanks,
Devdatt Kurdikar
(kurdikar@ecn.purdue.edu)
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:30523 talk.abortion:35435
From: kane@buast7.bu.edu (Hot Young Star)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Arrogant Indians and Susan Forgach
Date: 7 Sep 92 19:07:58 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <92250.091118RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> RIPBC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:

>the postings of  Susan Forgach have  been an enormous
>comfort to me.  Her position is more strict than mine, but only because
>she is ALWAYS willing to put morality before pragmatism.

I hate to break this to you, Rohit---but Suzanne doesn't place much value
on Eastern Religion...she told me that anyone who believes in such
religions is deluding themselves.

Plus, she obviously has no respect for Buddhism and vegetarianism.

(And has she seen the Seventh Day Adventist Church?)

Brian
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
kane@{buast7,astro}.bu.edu (Hot Young Star) Astronomy Dept, Boston University,
Boston, MA 02215. True personal salvation is achieved by absolute faith in
ones true self.
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From: vkrishna@cimnext1.cim.eas.asu.edu (Vinu K. Krishnamurthy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Speeding Ticket
Keywords: Speeding
Date: 11 Sep 92 17:59:37 GMT
Organization: Arizona State University



My friend from Arizona got a speeding ticket in California State. 
Can he attend a class and thereby maintain his record clean.
Should he attend the court
Can he plead not guilty

Any Suggestions will be helpfull
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: suresh@papaya.iss.nus.sg (Suresh Thennarangam - Research Scholar)
Subject: Looking for CSE's /FE's from WIPRO.
Originator: suresh@papaya
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 07:11:34 GMT

Girls, Guys I am trying to establish a network of Ex-Wipro(Infotech
or WITTLE :->>) CSE's/FE's(unresticted actually.

Send me Email and I will post each of you a list of people who responded.

So far I have Emails of


Sajin Valoth(CSE BLR-AO)
K.S. Mohana(CSE MDRS-AO)
Narendra Nayak(CSE BLR-AO)
T. Nirupama (CSE BLR-AO)
K Ramkumar  (CSE BMBY)
Me(CSE AO BLR/PUNE)

We also have a 30+ large community of ex-Wiproite's camped here in SNG
from various parts of our pyaara desh but most of them are not on the 
net.

So mail me amigos do !


      __
     (_       o_   o  o |_
     __)/(_( _) (_(_ /_)| )_


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* Suresh Thennarangam               *  EMail: suresh@iss.nus.sg(Internet) *
* Research Scholar                  *         ISSST@NUSVM.BITNET          *
* Institute Of Systems Science      *  Tel:  (065) 772 2588.              *
* National University Of Singapore  *  Facs.: (065) 778 2571              *
* Heng Mui Keng Terrace             *  Telex: ISSNUS RS 39988             *
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gauri@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Gauri Pavate)
Subject: Re: Multiple choice
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 21:58:24 GMT

AVR100@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>After reading several news items in the past six months, here are some
>of my observations on the fate of the average woman in India.

>What do we do with these damned females:

>a) Abort them once we know they are female foetuses.

>   (Reported in the New York Times in March 92: A United Nations survey
>    found that of 6000 abortions in Bombay in 1991 only one was a male
>    foetus)


>b)  Can't afford abortion? No problem. We can always kill the newborns.

>    (Reports on female infanticide rampant in India)


>c)  Or, we need not declare their birth. As they grow up along with their
>    younger brothers, they can give up their share of food/care.

>    (News item in New York Times about female children in China)


>d)  Once they are of age we can tease them on the street, pinch them
>    on buses, oogle at them in colleges. In the poorer areas we can
>    rape them, or kidnap them to sell virgins to pimps for a good price,
>    or make them devdaasis. Who cares if they contract STDs. Prostitutes
>    in Bombay entertain more than seven customers a day, mostly married
>    men. So what, at least they don't starve.

>e)  Or, we can marry them and get all their money and more. Hell, their
>    parents can pawn their souls if necessary - we want the money. The
>    higher our qualifications (M.D, B.E., foreign-returned) the bigger
>    the price-tag. It is an accepted form of male-prostitution (you give
>    me money and I'll sleep with your daughter).

>f)  If we want more money we can heckle them and harass them till their
>    parents send more. Or we can beat them for not giving us sons (its
>    not OUR sex-chromosomes responsible for producing daughters, its
>    THEIR ill-fated karma)

>g)  If we desire still more money we can always marry again. Bigamy is
>    illegal? No problem. Kitchen accidents happen, you know.

>h)  Husband died. Can't let the wife live - family ijjad thing, you know.
>    What good is a woman's life without her husband, anyway. Our elders
>    know best - hurl her onto the pyre. Rejoice in the glory of our
>    tradition.



>                                  -Anupa.

	
	Very powerful article.  Thanks Anupa.

					Gauri.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: som@top.cis.syr.edu (Tapas Som)
Subject: Looking for
Organization: Syracuse University, CIS Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 13:20:13 EDT



	I am posting on behalf of a friend. Do not send replies to my
	account.

	Can sombody please send mr the email address or phone number of the 
	following person:
		
		Dr. Raja Ramani
		Chair person, Dept of mining Eng. Penn state, University Park.

	Please reply to:
		svdhara@rodan.syr.edu
		Phone 315 - 445 - 7035.