HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com (Robert Day)
Subject: Re: When will the Bears give Lewis the RB job?
Organization: control_centers
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:03:26 GMT

In <1doqdsINN5ps@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, mgriffin@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Mark Griffin) writes

>When will Ditka give in and decide that Neil Anderson is not an every
>down back anymore?  Darren Lewis has been much better in the few chances
>he has had.  Ditka supposedly isn't a big fan of Anderson anyway.  With the
>Bears losing so much anyway, I would just make Lewis the regular back with
>Muster as Fullback and just use Anderson occasionally to give Lewis a 
>breather.  What does everyone or anyone else think?

Well, after that Sunday night joke, Ditka mentioned that it's time
to start shaking up some personnel. Specifically, he was talking
about cornerbacks (see ya Lemonhead), but hopefully he'll go that 
extra step and put Anderson on the bench (where he belongs).
Every week he says that he needs to get Lewis on the field more; 
he started this trend vs. Cinnci, hopefully it will continue.

Rob

-- 
What good are these thoughts that I'm thinking
It must be better not to be thinking at all    --Lou Reed
                                
Rob 'Otis' Day     robertd@ecs.comm.mot.com
From: rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cowboys steamroll over Lions
Date: 10 Nov 1992 19:16:16 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Howard Hughes Medical Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu

In article <2838@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch) writes:
>
>Well, as a fan, I'm not -- when the Cowboys were ahead 34-3, I nearly bit
>the head off of someone who tried to turn to a more interesting game.  But
>I'm worried that the players are going to get bored, come out flat, and
>lose some games they should win.  It's happened to virtually every other
>contender team this year, and the Cowboys are certainly not immune to it.

I'm more worried that the wins this year seem to have come rather easily,
with first half scoring drives paving the way, and the defense making no
contest of it in the second half.  Last year (and even in 1990), they
seemed to have a few games where they needed a scoring drive in the last
5 minutes of the game and Aikman and the offense came through.  That's 
why I was kinda glad to see some suspense in the KC game, when Horton's 
INT sealed it.  But, if the Cowboys keep winning easily I won't mind!!  :-)

>In fact, I'm afraid of exactly what happened to Philly (IMHO) -- the Cowboys
>peaking too soon, and going into the playoffs with nothing left.  Philly
>seemed to regain some of their momentum this week, which really worries
>me.  (Gee, and they did it without Cunningham.  Funny, that.)  I foresee
>the Cowboys getting the bye for the first playoff round, but having to
>face either the Redskins or the Eagles in the second round, since they
>will perhaps play each other in the first round.

I don't think they are peaking too early.  I think this is a young team
trying to find out just how good they are for themselves.  Besides, if
they *DO* lose a few more games before the end of the season, it'll help
them focus on getting the job done for the playoffs.


Ray     GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu (COOPER ROBERT BRYA)
Subject: Re: Cities chosen for Super Bowl sites?
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 92 08:12:16 GMT

In article <Bx9H8o.GDE@acsu.buffalo.edu> kist@acsu.buffalo.edu (james e kist) writes:
>How are cities chosen for Super Bowl sites? Also, has there ever been a
>Super Bowl in a city where that city's team is playing?

As far as I can tell, this is as close as it comes:

 #   winner   loser  score       site     attend.          MVP
---- -------------- -------   --------------------  -----------------
XIX     SF vs Miami 38 - 16   Stanford     84,059   Montana, SF
XIV   Pitt vs Rams  31 - 19   Pasadena    103,985   Bradshaw, Pitt

Bryan Cooper, cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu
ps. peace

.sig in for repairs
From: tokuno@carson.u.washington.edu (Ken Tokuno)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Montana throwing again...ho hum
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:22:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Nov13.002222.6936
Organization: University of Washington

reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

>>If I were a 49er fan, I'd view Montana as insurance.  Young is
>>indeed playing well, and there are those that think highly of
>>Bono--certainly Bono looked good last year.
>>
>The 49er's still have Musgrave hanging around in some kind of status,
>don't they?  In a real pinch, he'd be more likely to be called up
>than Kiel or Dilweg, since he's been with the 49er's for several years.
>As I remember it, he looks about as good as a quarterback in that position
>could be expected to look.

>I'd say this season is pretty clear.  Barring injury or some incredible
>slump, Young is the starter for the year.  They might or might not
>activate Montana to serve as backup, depending on his injury's progress.
>It's next year that the hard decisions come.  I think Montana's statement
>about wanting to play is directed towards next year.  Assuming he does
>come back healthy, and shows no sign of his injury slowing him down,
>what do the 49er's do, then?  Start him in place of one of the top rated
>quarterbacks in the league?  Trade one of the best quarterbacks ever,
>when he still seems to have some playing value?  (Bound to be an unpopular
>decision with the fans, too.)  Try to convince Montana to wait around on
>the bench, when clearly, if his time hasn't run out, it's running?  The
>sentimental choice is hang on to Joe, no matter what, but the pragmatic
>choice is hang on to Young.  Of course, if it turns out that Montana
>clearly can't play any more, there's no hard decision, but what if it
>looks like he can?

For my two cents worth, a solution involving Musgrave would be to keep him
as the third QB.  He has looked good the few times he has played and he
could stand to use a little more development.  He's a lot younger than
Bono.  So what do they do with Bono?  Trade him.  I wouldn't be a bit
surprised to see him do well on another team and someone who knows his
skills--like Mike Holmgren--might even part with a high (second or third)
round choice for him.  Not bad considering he was originally a free agent.
During the pre-season, Young and Montana vie for the starting job. 
Whoever loses gets the back-up role with the clear understanding that the
job is his if the other falters or gets hurt.  Neither of them would like
it much, but it's better than letting either of them go, assuming, of
course, that Montana is even 80% of his old self.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: Scud's Back.....
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 19:35:52 GMT

trradrx@canctr.mc.duke.edu writes:
>
>Is it too late to bring George Blanda out of retirement? Daryle Lamonica?
>Snake Stabler? Plunk? How bout Dan Pastorini? No? Marc Wilson, maybe?
>(Can you tell I'm getting desperate for a QB?)

I got two words for you: Steve Beurlein.

>Then there are the scrap heap acquisitions, like Plunkett.  

Lyle Alzado.  How exactly did they get him?

>"Next to Keith Richards, Sacramento looks great."--Pete Vecsey, on the Kings'
>  chances this year.

Three and oh, baby, three and oh.  Better than Vecsey ever was.


--Gidi




Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Subject: Re: idiotic posts
Originator: delarocq@c00167-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 06:51:15 GMT




Oh, please.. spare me from any more of the whining from some of the posters
here.. If you can't take a few jabs, then don't post here. I will never mind
a good posting stuffing a team, as long as no personal attacks are involved..
That way you can post a good response...

I mean, I hate the 49ers too, but that still gives them the right to blast
the Falcons, including Rison/Sanders. If Miami wins Monday Night, it happens.
My life goes on... If people post stuff about Miami, they deserve to. Their
team won (if they win). If Buffalo wins, i'll be in there, having fun!! :)
-- 
delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu


      
---------------------------------------------------------------------------   

   __                     _         __      _  _      /
  /  )      /)  /)       //        /  )    // //     /
 /--<  . . //  //  __.  // __     /--<  o // // _   '
/___/_(_/_//__//__(_/|_</_(_)    /___/_<_</_</_/_) o
         />  />
        </  </

Reporter: "Who do you think is the best running back in the NFL?"
Thurman Thomas: "The running back that went to Oklahoma State".
Organization: Mythos/Xcalbrin Inc.
X-School: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 12:20:42 EST
From: JJ Serowik <JJS158@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers whip Dallas in NFC Championship.
Distribution: usa
 <1992Nov13.083424.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu>

Comments?  Yes I have one.  Do you really think the 49ers will make it
that far?  I don't think so.........
From: cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu (COOPER ROBERT BRYA)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Why don't we have an FAQ?
Date: 13 Nov 92 07:22:31 GMT
Article-I.D.: a.1992Nov13.072231.11482
Distribution: na
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Computer Science, Stillwater

Why don't we have an FAQ file?  

I see a lot of questions that pop up rather frequently and an
FAQ file might be nice to have to reference in these cases.

I know that a lot of us have files of statistics just sitting around
that we could compile nicely.  And even if we don't we could just
collect the answers to the questions that seem to get asked frequently.

"What is the address for team X?"
"How is qb rating calculated?"
"Who was the rushing leader in 19xx?"
"What are the tie-breakers in playoff selection?"
"Who was the first player drafted in 19xx?"
"Who broke Joe Theisman's leg?"
etc.

Seems to be that this newsgroup could use an FAQ posting.  Maybe
not as frequently as some other newsgroups since we primarily
discuss current issuses, but we spend a lot of time answering questions
too.

I would be happy to maintain it, if people would
contribute small pieces.  But, I am graduating in 5 weeks, and doubt
if I will have access to the Internet after that.

Just my .02 worth.

Bryan Cooper, cooperr@a.cs.okstate.edu
ps. peace
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: run defenses...
Keywords: \
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 18:04:01 GMT

jdhl@troi.cc.rochester.edu (papa_sm00sh) writes:
>
>did you know...
>
>that the buffalo defense has not alllowed a single 100yard rusher this
>season?  

I agree.  The Bills run defense is awsome and it is clear to me that
they will hold both Mark Higgs and Bobby Humphrey well under a 100.

It will be an ugly loss for Miami on national TV and a very depressing
evening for Dolfans everywhere.  I wish we could get this game blacked
out.


--Gidi
From: dfc@resumix.portal.com (Dan Currie)
Subject: Re: Neil Anderson & Other Benched for Bear
Reply-To: dfc@resumix.portal.com
Organization: Resumix Inc., Santa Clara CA
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 17:13:09 GMT

In article 28912@gn.ecn.purdue.edu, nitin@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Nitin Khanna) writes:
> I think that Ditka must go.; even though the benchings are a 
> good idea.  We need a house cleaning in Chicago if we want to
> stop the cycle of going waaay down before coming back up.

If Ditka did go, the NFL would be pretty boring. He is one of the most
controversial and entertaining coaches since Woody Hayes.

---
	Dan


Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: emdynle@next01wor.wam.umd.edu (Em Dyn chi co' em trong tim anh)
Subject: Re: Worst/Best Trades
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 18:12:05 GMT

Jason Gische writes
> In article <1dp6lfINNhtk@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>  
rjk@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Raymond K) writes:
> >It's hard to already label any player from the 1991 draft a bust
> >already (O, so Huey Richardson IS a bust!).  But, below is the first
> >round of that draft.  Do you see anybody there that has played  
significantly
> >better than Maryland over the past 1 1/2 season?
> >
> >1991 First Round
> >1, Dallas (from New England), Russell Maryland, dt, Miami.
> >2, Cleveland, Eric Turner, s, UCLA.
> >3, Atlanta, Bruce Pickens, cb, Nebraska.
> >4, Denver, Mike Croel, lb, Nebraska.
> 	Definitely the best player taken in this draft.
> >5, LA Rams, Todd Lyght, cb, Notre Dame,
> >6, Phoenix, Eric Swann, dt, no college.
> >7, Tampa Bay, Charles McRae, t, Tennessee.
> 	Playing a studly OT for the Bucs.
> >8, NY Jets, used pick in 1990 supplemental draft for Rob Moore, wr,  
Syracuse.
> >9, Philadelphia (from Green Bay), Antone Davis, t, Tennessee.
> >10, San Diego, Stanley Richard, s, Texas.
> >11, Detroit, Herman Moore, wr, Virginia.
> 	Starting wideout, getting better.
> >12, New England (from Minnesota through Dallas), Pat Harlow, t,  
Southern Cal.
> >13, Dallas, Alvin Harper, wr, Tennessee.
> >14, Atlanta (from Indianapolis), Mike Pritchard, wr, Colorado.
> 	Why did he go so low?  He's managing to shine on a team with Rison  
and
> 	Haynes already as receivers.
> >15, New England (from New Orleans through Dallas), Leonard Russell, rb,  
Arizona State.
> >16, Pittsburgh, Huey Richardson, de, Florida.
> >17, Seattle, Dan McGwire, qb, San Diego State.
> >18, Washington (from Houston through New England and Dallas), Bobby  
Wilson, dt, Michigan State.
> >19, Cincinnati, Alfred Williams, lb, Colorado.
> 	Among the AFC leaders in sacks.
> >20, Green Bay (from Philadelphia), Vinnie Clark, cb, Ohio State.
> >21, Dallas (from Washington), Kelvin Pritchett, dt, Mississippi.
> >22, Kansas City, Harvey Williams, rb, Louisiana State.
> >23, Chicago, Stan Thomas, t, Texas.
> >24, Miami, Randall Hill, wr, Miami.
> 	Terrific deep threat for Phoenix (although the pick they traded  
became
> 	Troy Vincent.)
> >25, LA Raiders, Todd Marinovich, qb, Southern Cal.
> >26, San Francisco, Ted Washington, dt, Louisville.
> >27, Buffalo, Henry Jones, cb, Illinois.
> >28, NY Giants, Jarrod Bunch, fb, Michigan.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Ray      GO COWBOYS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
> 
> I don't think I'd call Maryland a bust.
> But I don't think he was worth trading up for in this weak draft.
> I don't think (and didn't think) that Ismail was worth it either.
> Jason Gische



RUSSEL MARYLAND WILL BE A PREMIERE PLAYER IN A FEW
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: cnahm@leibniz.uwaterloo.ca (Charles Nahm)
Subject: Re: Eagles #1 Quarterback
Keywords: Jimmy Mac or Randall?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:52:27 GMT

In article <Nov.9.15.29.45.1992.13475@gandalf.rutgers.edu>, bstuart@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Ben Stuart) writes:
> I was just curious.  For the rest of you Eagle fans out there, who
> would you rather have starting?  I know next week is only Green Bay,
> but their defense could give Randall the confidence he needs.  On the
> other hand, Jimmy Mac earned a starting job through his leadership
> against the Raiders and a decent showing coming off the bench cold in
> the Dallas game (allbeit with modest numbers).
> 
> And for the non-Eagle fans, who deserves the job?
> 
> Ben

 I think that Randall should start, until(if) he gets hurt and cannot play
any further into the season. Randall needs more and more game experience as
any who's every ran in a heavy knee brace can tell you, it takes time to 
get used to realizing the limitations involved in running with 20 pounds of
Kevlar, Metal, and what have you, protecting your knee. Jim M. has indeed 
done a fine job as a BACKUP, but that's what he is best for, I don't think
I'd want for him to be hurt and then have no viable backup for Randall if
Randall does get hurt. The Offensive line gets slammed by everyone for being
crap, and deservedly so, they couldn't pass protect against a Dallas 4 man
rush at times, which is ridiculous, because that leaves the QB in a serious
bind when you have to throw into double coverage under pressure. I agree 
that Green Bay will not be the perfect Measuring stick for a QB, just like  
the 3-6 Raiders, were not exactly a powerhouse defense. Jeff Kemp could
have beaten the Raiders, with the performance the Eagles D turned in. I for
one hope that Randall is not left exposed to another knee shot like last year,
and it is one of the reasons I hate to see him staying in the pocket.

Well, just my personal opinions up here Snowy Waterloo Canada.
From: martens@laurel.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 2,000 yard rushers and a little more (top ten single season)
Keywords: 2000 rushing
Date: 13 Nov 92 04:11:15 GMT
Article-I.D.: cis.1992Nov13.041115.28734
Organization: Ohio State U. Dept. of Computer Science

In article <Nov.12.22.09.42.1992.13753@riches.rutgers.edu> rhoads@riches.rutgers.edu (Glenn Rhoads) writes:

	[ ... ]

>NOT TRUE!  Jim Brown gained his 1863 yards (not 1883) in a 14 game
>season not in a 12 game season.  This seems to be a common
>misconception.  While the NFL did have a 12 game season when Jim Brown
>entered the league, the NFL had already switched to a 14 game season
>by 1963 (I don't know the exact year the NFL switched to a 14 game
>season)

	[ ... ]

The NFL played a 12 game season from 1947 to 1960.  From 1961
through 1977 the regular season was 14 games.

Caveat:  actually, the Green Bay Packers played those many games
in those years.  I'm assuming that by '47 all teams were playing
the same number of games every season, but maybe not.  I think
that in the very early years, different teams did play differing
numbers of games.


-- 

			   Think snow.

	       -- Jeff (martens@cis.ohio-state.edu)
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cleveland 24, Houston 14
Date: 10 Nov 92 16:24:59 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <9NOV199211514158@zeus.tamu.edu> tap1040@zeus.tamu.edu (SPEED RACER) writes:
>In article <BxFn6B.85H@rice.edu>, apo@owlnet.rice.edu (Apolak Borthakur) writes...
>>I think the Oilers have to think of doing something drastic 
>>like going in for a change of the coaching staff.
>Baloney!!  The Oilers have had this problem for *quite* some time.
>They had it under Glanville, and they have it under Pardee.

That doesn't prove that they don't have a coaching problem.  Neither is a
particularly impressive coach.

I look at the two Texas teams, and the main difference I see is coaching.
Talent-wise, they are pretty much equal.  Maybe the Cowboys have a better
slightly better defense.  But coaching-wise, they are miles apart.  Johnson
is an extreme motivator -- he's a demanding, harsh perfectionist.  The
players know he's not going to settle for any slacking off, because he
wants to win more than anything.  Irvin missed the team flight to Detroit,
and Johnson fined him $1000 and benched him for the first series.  In the
paper, all the players were talking about how mad he was at Irvin, not for
goofing up, but for goofing up in a way that could have affected the team.

Pardee, though, is just not a disciplinarian.  Time and time again, I've
heard Oiler players saying how there is no discipline, everything is lax
and loose.  The players don't respect Pardee as a leader, and thus, the
Oilers are going nowhere, fast.

My personal feeling is that the Oilers aren't going to the Superbowl until
they dismantle the team, get a good coach, and let him build it the way he
wants to.  Like the Cowboys have done, and like the 49ers did in the early
80s.  Like the Steelers did in the early 70s.  Like, maybe, the Vikings are
doing now, although they never quite sunk to the lows that the Cowboys did.

Daniel Welch
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: sager@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (mike.r.sager)
Subject: Re: KM's Week 11 picks
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 03:58:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.021558.17376@oswego.Oswego.EDU>, cbcs3440@Oswego.EDU (Kevin) writes:
> Reality finally sets in. After two great weeks against the spread,
> I got killed last week. Hopefully I'll do better again this week.

I think the results of your picks are due to the fact that your program
appears to lean towards the underdog (from what I've seen at least).  The
two weeks before last, when you did so well, coincided with a time that
the underdogs fared quite well.  The underdogs were 18-5 against the spread
those two weeks, excluding "pushes".  Then last week when you again picked
many underdogs, the favorites covered in 10 of 14 games, thus explaining
your poor record.

Mike Sager
From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 2,000 yard rusher
Date: 9 Nov 92 14:50:45 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <4eyoc7q00VAwEGsZAY@andrew.cmu.edu> ch44+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Glenn Huegle) writes:
>Am I the only one who notices that there are two runnings
>backs in the NFL this year who are on a pace to be
>around 2000 yards at the end of the season?

As big a Dallas fan as I am, I'd love to see Emmitt get 2,000 yards, but I
don't think it's going to happen, especially if the Cowboys play as well as
they did against the Lions.  Emmitt wound up with only 67 yards because he
was yanked in the third quarter with the score 27-3, along with Aikman and
Irvin.  He now needs to average about 148 yards a game to reach the 2,000
plateau, and that's just not going to happen.

Daniel Welch
From: v067ftek@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: BILLS WILL MAKE MOST OF 2nd CHANCE!
Date: 6 Nov 92 00:53:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


Nuff Said!!!
1. AFC East
2. AFC (Home-field)
3. Superbowl
4. ?
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
From: cl129424@ulkyvx.louisville.edu
Subject: Re: Stop putting game summaries on news 
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:47:05 GMT
Organization: University of Louisville

In article <31320@twics.co.jp>, samra@twics.co.jp writes:
> 
> Thank you to the kind people who post game summaries every week! People
> like myself who live overseas often count on the net for details on 
> their favorite teams.  Please don't stop posting!
> 
> CAS

    I enjoy the hell out of Curt's summaries. Keep up the great work!

                         -doug THE dolfan-
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro