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From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: .ttywsrc and cmdtool
Date: 27 Jul 92 21:19:09 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

Hello,

I found that my .ttywsrc won't work under cmdtool. We found that if
we disabled cmdtool scrolling (from the term pane menu), .ttyswrc F-key
remaps appear magically, like turning off scrolling automatically turned on
the .ttywsrc remaps we defined. We found .ttyswrc works fine from shelltool which
comes up (normally with scrolling disabled).

  What we would like is to KEEP scrolling in cmdtool window, but get .ttywsrc
to work in cmdtool window at the same time.

 Any ideas?

 Does anybody know just why scrolling should have anything to do with .ttywsrc
working?
thanx in advance
sue@byron.u.washington.edu
From: leedg1@teomail.jhuapl.edu (Gilbert Lee)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: NFS and openlook
Date: 28 Jul 92 18:07:19 GMT
Reply-To: leedg1@jhuapl.edu (Gilbert Lee)
Organization: JHU/APL


 I'm sorry if this is a FAQ but I haven't been keeping up with the news 
recently.

I am trying to save disk space on some of my sparcs so I have been using NFS 
mounts to reach the /usr/openwin on a file server sparc. I think however that 
I must need to do something else for olwm to run smoothly. It seems to spin 
up nicely enough, but it will only allow one x client with a remote computer. 
The second time I try to spin up the x client, I get a message saying unable 
to find display "a.b.c.d:0" where a.b.c.d is in fact the correct ip address 
for my sparc. In other cases I get a broken pipe message, e.g.:

Process: 0x262ef0 (X Listener %socketl6000)   Error: stackunderflow
Stack:
      Executing: 'pop'
                      At: {packedarray{4} 'stopped' 'pop' *'pop' 'closefile' 
'du
p' (r) 'file'}
In: {... 4 'index' append 'put' packedarray{8} *'loop'}
XIO:  fatal IO error 32 (Broken pipe) on X server ""
      after 0 requests (0 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
      The connection was probably broken by a server shutdown or KillClient.

 Any subsequent attempt to bring up a x client like xset, etc. also fail. 

Have I overlooked something fundamental, or should I be able to have olwm run 
correctly with just a NFS mount to remote /usr/openwin?

Thanks in advance

Gilbert Lee
leedg1@jhuapl.edu

Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.lang.ada
From: ccarpent@dpcs_gt1.ess.harris.com (Craig Carpenter)
Subject: Re: GUI Builder for Ada
Reply-To: ccarpent@dpcs_gt1.ess.harris.com (Craig Carpenter)
Organization: Harris/ISD
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 12:15:11 GMT

--

BuilderXcessory will be releasing their Ada version in Sept. 92, supposed
to be about $9,000. (The C version is about $3200)

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From: fgreco@fis1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Scrolling lists
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:23:20 GMT

> My question has to do with scrolling lists.  After I display
> a list that is longer than the window can hold and scroll all
> the way down to see the bottom of the list, if I try to display
> a new list with fewer rows than the window can hold, none of the
> rows in the new list gets displayed.  I must scroll back up to see
> those rows.  Here is what I am doing:

Try:
	xv_set((Scrollbar)xv_get(your-panel-list, PANEL_LIST_SCROLLBAR),
		SCROLLBAR_VIEW_START, 0,
		NULL);

.its probably better to write a little wrapper around the above for
portability:

int SetListSB(list, item_num)
Panel_list list;	/* Your list */
int item_num;		/* Index of the "first" viewable row in your list */
{
	return xv_set((Scrollbar)xv_get(list, PANEL_LIST_SCROLLBAR),
		SCROLLBAR_VIEW_START, item_num,
		NULL);
}

Frank G.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: nh@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (nicholas.hounsome)
Subject: Re: XVTDL/MOTIF/X11r4 was Re: XVTDL 3.0 Released
Organization: AT&T
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 07:14:18 GMT

From article <1992Jul28.162742.14520@bmerh85.bnr.ca>, by woodside@bnr.ca (Kevin Woodside):
> Does anyone know of a program similar to XVTDL 3.0 that does NOT
> require OpenWindows or XView?   I'm looking for a program with similar
> functionality, but compilable (is this a word?) in a Motif/X11R4
> environment.
>  
The xview toolkit is available free in the R5 contrib so you should
probably be able to build it for your system. The only problems
then are the usual ones of OPEN LOOK/MOTIF interaction - i.e. mainly
pushpins but this is not usualy an intolerable problem.

Nick Hounsome
From: fgreco@fis1026.shearson.com (Frank Greco)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: In Search of a Better Scrolling List
Date: 31 Jul 92 14:51:14 GMT

> I think we're in agreement about XView scrollbars.  Strongly! :-(

	You got that right!  I punted on mine and use (ugh!) scroll buttons.
	They are extremely inflexible.

> A multi-column panel item would be possible to do, I suppose, but I
> wouldn't want to allocate lots and lots of text fields, and I'd want all
> the text-field-style editing available, I suppose.  A scrolling list is
> a pretty weak third...

	Of course, this is all moot if Brian Warkentine adds editing
	capability to his Drawtext object and adds variable-sized
	columns to his array_tile object...  (SlingShots are great,
	albeit a bit heavy-weight... couldn't live without 'em!).

> For that matter, to be totally obscene, a scrolling panel with lots of
> text fields would sort of work...  Hmmm, ugh.

	Doesn't OLIT or Motif have a RowColumn object?

> Perhaps if a group of people got together and wrote a Table Object, rather
> like Guide's Group extension...?

	I've been hacking away at such a thing using SlingShots, with
	some minor success.  (see above complaints...). Also
	"scrolling" (simulated scrolling, not canvas-scrolling) a large
	tile_array (say 25x25) is a bit slow.

> There's stuff in the Style Guide on selecting data in tables (pp.172-175),
> but that's not implying that an OL toolkit should provide this stuff, I think.

	hmmm... I guess you're correct.  Buy why publish how to "stylishly" 
	use a table when you don't define what a table looks like?  Sounds
	odd to me.

	Frank G.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: jipping@cs.hope.edu (Mike Jipping)
Subject: XVTDL and strftime ==> I need a tester
Followup-To: comp.windows.open-look
Reply-To: jipping@cs.hope.edu
Organization: Hope College
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:02:58 GMT

There appears to be a problem with the "strftime" call on Sun-3s and 386is that
causes a crash and core dump.  I'm trying to fix this...so...

  (1) Does anyone know what the problem is?
  
  (2) I might have a solution for XVTDL.  I would like someone who has had a 
      problem with this to contact me (jipping@cs.hope.edu) and we'll se if 
      we can solve this.
      
  -- Mike Jipping
     Hope College
     Department of CS
     jipping@cs.hope.edu
From: sebring@daehall7.Eng.Sun.COM (Nancy Howes)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Calendar Mgr. and mounting /var/spool/calendar
Date: 24 Jul 1992 17:25:29 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: daehall7
Keywords: calendar, cm


In article <1992Jul17.114436.17388@linus.mitre.org>, grobertsmitre.org (Glenn Roberts) writes:
> a while back there was some discussion here about the feasibility of
> mounting /var/spool/calendar across a network of machines for the
> purpose of sharing calendar files (Open Windows Calendar Manager
> tool).  This works fine, of course, for mail.  the recommendation (as I
> recall) was to avoid this since it does not work reliably but there was
> no clear reason or evidence (maybe rpc.cmsd is not smart enough?).  can
> anyone shed more light on this topic?  currently we must require people
> to maintain their calendars all on one server.  We're running Openwin 3.0.
> 
> glenn roberts, MITRE
> groberts@mitre.org


Mounting the calendar directory can result in corrupted calendar data.
We recommend either running cm from the server and displaying it locally 
or browsng the calendar from the local cm.


Nancy Howes
Calendar Manager Engineer
SunSoft
sebring@sun.com
From: crussell@samson.hac.com (Chris Russell)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: xdvi with openlook
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:52:44 GMT
Reply-To: crussell@samson.hac.com
Organization: Hughes Training Incorporated, WCO

In article 1@vax1.tcd.ie, kacurtis@vax1.tcd.ie () writes:
> The sources I've found for xdvi, seem to be incompatible with the
> openlook X11 libraries.  I need X11/Xaw and possibly X11/Xmu which
> just don't exist in my include library.

I've had similiar problems... specifically, it is unable to resolve two link
dependancies.  However, even though I get an "unresolved links" error, the
xdvi program still (apparently) works.

If it really bothers you, then you might consider building it with the standard
MIT distribution (of X), although I haven't gone to the trouble myself.  (So
far, no one has noticed any problems with it... yet.)

Chris Russell
Hughes Training Inc.

Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: edwin@nynexst.com (Kin-Wing Edwin Lee)
Subject: Function keys not working when running cmdtool in Openwindow
Organization: NYNEX Science & Technology, Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 92 21:49:58 GMT

The function keys were disabled(except F1 for help) if I run cmdtool
or shelltool(both of TERM sun-cmd) in Openwindow. They works fine
when I run them in suntools.

The termcap were exactly the same.

Any suggestion??


Edwin
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
From: fgk@balr.com (Frank Kaldis)
Subject: Sun Open Windows Application port to MS Windows
Organization: Balr Corporation
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 17:56:50 GMT

To all,

is there any package that currently exists that would speed up porting
an application from the Sun Open Windows look and feel into the
MS DOW Windows look and feel. I was told that HP Open View might
help in this portation but from looking at documentation that does not
seem to be a viable solution.

Any suggestions or ideas would be greatly appreciated!
From: adc@tardis.msu.edu (Alan D. Cabrera)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Color images in XView and UIT
Date: 22 Jul 92 21:15:54 GMT
Reply-To: adc@tardis.msu.edu
Organization: Michigan State University

I've spent a lot of time creating nifty color images with iconedit but
I am unable to use the images in XView and UIT.  Has anybody had any
success?  I'm on a SS2, SunOS 4.1.1, OW 3.0, UIT v2.

Thanks.


---
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Computer Laboratory			phone:     (517) 353-3027
Michigan State University		fax:       (517) 353-9847
514 Computer Center			bitnet:    CABRERA@MSU
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.lang.ada
From: mfeldman@seas.gwu.edu (Michael Feldman)
Subject: Re: GUI Builder for Ada
Organization: George Washington University
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:22:43 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.170954.13472@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>>>
>>>BuilderXcessory will be releasing their Ada version in Sept. 92, supposed
>>>to be about $9,000. (The C version is about $3200)
>>>
>>Ah, yes. The old "rip off the Ada users" problem again. Do these guys think
>>nobody but deep-pockets defense companies could POSSIBLY be interested in
>>Ada development? At least the compiler vendors can fall back on the (now
>>lame) excuse that validation is expensive. How do these guys justify it?
>
>Cost of the port and expected maintenance amortized over the expected
>number of sales?
>
Probably so. And this level of pricing will guarantee that the number of copies
sold will be very small. The world outside DoD has got to be pretty darn
committed to Ada to go for this. Are there no companies out there willing
to try to break this vicious circle?

Mike Feldman
From: webster@bnrottawa (Brent Webster)
Newsgroups: bnr.tools.general,comp.windows.open-look
Subject: HyperLook (HyperCard for Sparcs)
Keywords: HyperLook,HyperCard,hypertext,hyper
Date: 28 Jul 92 14:16:06 GMT
Reply-To: webster@bnrottawa
Organization: Bell Northern Research Ltd

Has anyone had a chance to evaluate HyperLook from the Turing Institute.
I've got the runtime system with the SimCity and CAM stacks.  I looks
quite impressive and should be able to be used for high level conceptual
modelling.  I'm interested in the HyperLook vs. HyperCard comments as well.
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look,comp.windows.x
From: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Subject: Re: Three questions about xterm's.
Reply-To: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 15:12:11 GMT

In article <Brw6CK.6rL@newcastle.ac.uk>, 
dph1kg@durham.ac.uk (Karl Glazebrook) writes:
[...]
|> (2) Is there an OpenWindows version of xterm? What I mean by this is with textedit
|> style scroll bars, etc. cmdtool isn't good enough because I want the tcsh to work
|> as well as scrollbars, and besides it doesn't do Tektronix emulation. Ideally
|> it would be better and emulate vt200/Graphon as vt100/Tektronix is a bit tacky.
|> Surely someone out there must have done this it can't be too hard.

You might try jet, I don't know that much about it but it does have
openlook decoration and tcsh works with it.

|> (3) How on a sun-4 keyboard can I set it up so that pressing
|> shift-uparrow in an xterm gives me the proper vt 100 sequence for this
|> key, while unshifted it works normally.
|> 
|> I've tried
|> 
|>     ~Shift<Key>KP_9:          string(0x1b) string("Ox") \n\
|> 
|> But it doesn't seem to work.

You can get that sequence in xterm by simply selecting application
cursor keys from the ctrl-middle menu, I think that it is also enabled
by terminfo with ti. BTW on my sun4 keyboard up-arrow is KP-8.

-- 

Michael Salmon

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#include	<witty.saying>
#include	<fancy.pseudo.graphics>

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From: mjb@icestation.Eng.Sun.COM (Mike Bundschuh)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: Anybody out there use "filemgr"?
Date: 30 Jul 1992 23:08:15 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: mjb@icestation.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: icestation

> I would like to set up the "filemgr" program for some novice users on
> my system.  Specifically, I would like them to be able to start
> applications by double-clicking on the icon for the file or directory.
> 
> This is very straightforward if you want to run an application on a
> certain kind of file (basically, you set up a new entry in "binder"
> application).  However, what if you want to start an application on a
> directory instead of a file?

Unfortunately, there is no way to change the default operation on a 
folder (directory).  This means you cannot change the folder icon, or
change its open method of cd'ing into the directory.

There is no real technical reason to not allow it -- a decision was
made to not include that functionality without further user testing.
Hopefully, future releases of filemgr will allow this.

_______________________________________________________________________

	Mike Bundschuh			
	Sun Technology Enterprises	Internet: mjb@Eng.Sun.COM
	2550 Garcia Ave. MTV 02-208	UUCP: ...!sun!mjb
	Mountain View, CA 94043-1100	Phone: (415) 336-1273
From: levan@giao.EBay.Sun.COM (Le^ Va^n)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Process ID & Window
Date: 29 Jul 1992 02:27:01 GMT
Organization: Sun Micro Systems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: levan@giao.EBay.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: giao.ebay.sun.com

Is there a connection between a process ID and a window?
Is it possible to find the window ID for a given process ID?

Any help is greatly appreciated!

LeVan
From: sue@byron.u.washington.edu (Shu-Chen Eclipse)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.open-look
Subject: How do I change cursor/cursor size and color?
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:06:12 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle



Hellow, 
 does anybody know how I can change my cursors?

I would like my texted cursor to MUCH large (I can't see the blasted thing),
  I would like my textedit cursor to go from black to red or yellow, 
    to blink, and to change in shape from the triangle to a blinking blokc or
     blinking underline.

 Ditton form my cmdtool and shelltool cursors.
it cursor to be MUCH larger (cann't see the blasted thing)ck  
Is this possible?
thanx in advance,
sue@byron.u.washington.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.windows.ms
From: stephen@eggneb.astro.ucla.edu (Stephen Schimpf)
Subject: Re: HP deskjet and true Type - help....!
Organization: UCLA Dept of Astronomy
Date: 27 Jul 92 17:50:38 PDT

In article <Bs2IDG.CqF@iai.kfk.de> steve.withers@bbs.actrix.gen.nz writes:
>In article <1992Jul7.111846.25922@actrix.gen.nz> Steve.Withers@actrix.gen.nz (Steve Withers) writes:
>>I have a friend with a Hewlett Packard Deskjet - one of the eary ones. She is
>>using Windows 3.1 and MS W4Win 2.0. At first she couldn't print anything....
>> 
>>Now she can print the true type fonts - but in graphics mode only and for text
>>printing, it is unbearably slow! We have been around the bush with HP on this
>>and tried every driver they have - they all do the same thing.
>> 
>
>Yes, it's true, the printing is very slow. So you need only time.
>I'm using the win31 printer driver for a deskjet 500 c and only with graphic mode corrects printing 
>will appear
>

Doesn't the printing speed depend on the amount of memory you have? I
used to have a DeskJet PLUS (I now have a new LaserJet IIIP) and when
I got Windows 3.1 I changed a three-page letter that used a
combination of the printer's Courier and Prestige to one using Arial
and Times New Roman. I printed both out and found that the TrueType
letter printed about 10 percent FASTER than the one using the
printer's built-in fonts. Really. My system has 16MB.

Stephen
From: lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
Subject: Re: Time for a group rename
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:30:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: sq.1992Jul23.213024.15234
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Socks: blue, but not being worn
X-Feet: bare

lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
> comp.windows.not-for-msdos-or-x11-please

comp.windows.other might be better.

Lee

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From: hlh5721@zeus.tamu.edu (JIMI HENDRIX)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
Subject: Shareware TrueType Fonts
Date: 28 Jul 1992 02:16:00 GMT
Organization: Texas A&M University, Academic Computing Services
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


I have recently downloaded about twenty truetype fonts from the FTP site
RIGEL.ACS.OAKLAND.EDU.  They are under the directory pub/msdos/windows3 

There is also a TON of windows files that can be downloaded as well.  Mose are
shareware while others are freeware.


Does anyone out there know of any other sites that have TT fonts or a great
number of win files?





LEE HUDDLESTON,                 
Texas A&M University,
College St. TX

"This views expressed are mine and are not necessarily those of
  Texas A&M University, its faculty, staff nor students"
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
From: robert@ctpm.uq.oz.au (Robert Merlicek)
Subject: me too
Organization: Centre for Language Teaching and Research, Uni of Queensland, AUSTRALIA.
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:25:56 GMT

I am also interested
Robert

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From: shah@cherry.iss.nus.sg (shahrin abdullah)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
Subject: Greeting
Date: 30 Jul 92 10:58:14 GMT
Reply-To: shah@iss.nus.sg (shahrin abdullah)
Followup-To: comp.music
Distribution: comp.music
Organization: Institute of Systems Science, NUS, Singapore

Hi everybody! I just call to say i loved all of u guys outside there!!
Goodbye! Cheers!
From: maurel@aurora.unice.fr (MAUREL Frederic)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc
Subject: Save in a poscript file with Winword
Date: 29 Jul 92 06:33:43 GMT
Organization: University of Nice Sophia-Antipolis, France
Originator: maurel@aurora.unice.fr



I would like to save my WinWord's dicument in a
postscript file.

I know that I must select "print" and save
as a print file.

But I haven't got a printer and I have no acces to this
selection.

How can I simulate that I have got a printer?

Thanks in advance

-- Frederic MAUREL --
Xref: sparky comp.windows.misc:1113 comp.fonts:2206
From: johnson@EA.USL.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.windows.misc,comp.fonts
Subject: prob. w/ TT and HPIII
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:09:09 GMT
Reply-To: johnson@EA.USL.EDU
Organization: Univ. of Southwestern Louisiana

Help!!

I have a friend running WIN 3.1 and has an Epson printer attached to her
computer.  She frequently needs to take a printer dump file to a nearby
office which has an HPIIIp.  Problem is that when she selects the HPIII
as the desired printer in MS Word, none of the TT fonts are available.
Neither are they available when running MS Write.  They are available,
however when she has selected her Epson printer.

Another quirk is that they are available for the HPIII when running
Pagemaker, just as they should be.

She has ATM installed also an the system, but we had that turned off.

It may be that at some time in the past she installed some HP fonts, and
that those are causing the problem.  However, I removed the installation
of the HPIII and reinstalled it, to no avail.

Can ANYONE direct me in the right direction here???

Thanks

Lee Johnson    hlj@usl.edu
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