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From: taylor@SunWorld.Com (Dave Taylor)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92  Post #1
Date: 16 Apr 92 22:00:43 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: SunWorld Magazine, San Francisco, CA: +1 (415) 267-1728

Sheesh.  Such a lot of trouble over such a simple thing.

I am glad that Marvin is willing to take the substantial financial
risk involved in booking a theater and trying to organize a net.gig
for Batman Returns (I believe it's not called Batman II!).  If he
makes a few bucks off the deal, does anyone *really* care about it?
I mean, he's taking the risk, he's getting the tickets, he's doing
all the logistics of the event, and you're paying the cost of an
ice cream and a soda for it.

As for me, I was very pleased with the way he organized the Star
Trek VI screening, from the original notes far in advance, to the
simple pricing, to the fact that he'd mail 'em back to me without me
having to even hassle with meeting him, visiting the theater early,
or having to keep track of payment made/receipts to get the ticket 
while queued up at the theater.  

[I believe, further, that the theater was late in letting us in, 
 which certainly contributed to the delay in entering the theater]

This discussion seems to highlight the differences in how some 
people view money, more than anything.  For me, I rarely go to a
matinee without some other motivation (like "it's not worth $7 to
see the film.") so I compare the price Marvin is charging to how
much it would cost to an evening showing of the film.  And it's
incredibly reasonable.  If you go to matinees then it might be a
bit different.  But it might also still entail considerably longer
queues (I remember lining up for about nine hours to see the opening
showing of the first Batman film, in a crowded parking lot) and
no guarantee that you'll get in *anyway*.

Marvin is putting in his own time and mucho effort to free me from
this hassle and do I think it's worth an additional two or three
bucks?  You betcha!

Even better, this time it's closer to my house, in Mountain View,
which I also believe is a nicer theater too.

						-- Dave Taylor
SunWorld Magazine
San Francisco, California

taylor@sunworld.com        			taylor@netcom.com
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab)
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92  Post #1
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 92 00:21:06 GMT
Organization: user of Netcom Public Access Unix, SF Bay Area
Distribution: ba

In article <sknomINN7hq@agate.berkeley.edu> jbuck@forney.berkeley.edu (Joe Buck) writes:
>I don't object to Marvin's current use of the net, but once he's got
>his business off the ground, I expect him to not use ba.singles at
>all as an advertising medium.  Making a small amount of money in a
>large effort where he could equally well lose money is one thing, but
>once it's a full-time business the rules change, I think.  For example,
>ba.market.* is fine for someone selling their car, but it would be
>unacceptable for a professional auto broker to use it, IMHO.


    I have not, nor will I ever use ba.singles for anything other than 
activities for ba.singles. I don't even use ba.singles to advertise
or promote other non-profit singles groups for which I'm involved!


                      -marvin



-- 
Marvin Raab                                  
marv@netcom.com                              Mountain View, CA 94040
apple.com!netcom.com!marv                    415-961-6501 (h)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: saf@netcom.com (Steve A. Feinstein)
Subject: Re: Dimensions (club review)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 07:26:58 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: ba

In article <-_9hflqgaryd@netcom.com> garyd@netcom.com (Gary Dietz) writes:
>Is seeing a play inherently better than Dimensions?  No.  But at least I 
>had more fun than those two pathetic guys who waited in line all night,
>being "judged" by a $6.00/hour security guard.
>-- 
Who the hell are you to say what is and is not enjoyable to any
particular person.  I can say without a doubt that some of the best
times of my life were spent on line.  While on the surface this may
sound like a somewhat idiotic statement but let me elaborate.

I was with people that I very much enjoyed being with.  Honestly it
didn't matter what we would have done those evenings.

I've met some VERY facinating people on lines.  Seems to me it's no
different that meeting an interesting person in a bar, a youth hostel,
or in front of the observation window of the Transamerica Building.

Now I certianly can't -- nor would I want to -- tell you what to
think.  But at least have the open mindedness to let people have their
"Fun" and damn way they want.  If that's waiting on line NOT to get
into a trendy club, or sitting home watching Star Trek re-runs for the
762nd time then great for them.

>garyd@netcom.com  "If I hugged you any closer, I'd be behind you" - G. Marx

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Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: douglas@netcom.com (Doug - MIS x7889)
Subject: Re: RelaxiBoink Saturday night party...
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 01:47:34 GMT
Organization: Approach Software Corp.  Redwood City, CA  94063
Distribution: ba

In article <3542@rosie.NeXT.COM> Lyle_Scheer@NeXT.com (Lyle Scheer) writes:

>> You mean it was this week?  I never got a response on my mail asking when and
>> where it was, so I didn't see you folks.

>I missed it too.  Never got any directions.  Oh well, I guess that's what I  
>deserve for not RSVPing until the week before.

I missed it as well.  I emailed the host(ess?) once and posted on the net
twice asking about it, even teamed up with someone else that had asked about
it agreeing to let eachother know if either heard anything -- we didn't.

Hopefully in the future if the net.gathering is truely net.public, there
could be some type of announcements like the ones that Marvin used to 
circulate.  No way you could miss those!  :-)

-DM


-- 
Douglas Mason                                    douglas@netcom.COM
Network administration / software development    douglas@netcom.UUCP
Approach Software Corporation                    +1 415.306.7889

Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92  Post #1
Date: 15 Apr 92 18:07:47 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

In article <a9yjsbd.marv@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
>
>To enjoy this event, I have, once again, rented an entire theater for
>singles and their friends (singles have married and attached friends) for
>a private screening without the hassles of standing in line

Huh?  I stood in line for 45 minutes to get into the private screening
of _Star Trek VI_.  How will this be different?

Charleen

--
What did the blonde say when she looked into a box of Cheerios?
"Oh look!  Donut seeds!"
From: bualat@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov (Maria Bualat)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Billiards (was Re: Dimensions (club review))
Date: 6 Apr 92 17:35:49 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: NASA-Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA

In article <0mgj8cj.derek@netcom.com> derek@netcom.com (Derek LeLash) writes:
>In article <6076@public.BTR.COM> jamesf@public.BTR.COM (James G. Franklin  jamesf@btr.com) writes:
>>
>>The apartment complex on Fair Oaks, just east of El Camino (on the north 
>>side of Fair Oaks) also has a few nice tables. Of course, you have to live 
>>there to use them. Or be quick at the door :-)
>>
>Or call me; I live there. :-)
>(Seriously, I'd love to shoot a few games with any interested net.folk.
>Eight tables, usually no waiting!)

Sounds like an offer to host a net.pool-party to me.  :-)

Maria
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Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: shannah@netcom.com (Teri Miller)
Subject: RelaxiBoink
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 05:35:35 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 


First of all, I would like to apologize to those who posted saying that
I didn't get back to them.  I didn't intentionally fail to reply to
anybody.  If you wrote me and I didn't get back to you, I either didn't
get your mail, got your mail too late to do anything about it, or just
plain screwed up.

Guests at RelaxiBoink: thank you for making it a very enjoyable event.
I actually had a good time!  Conversations were interesting, people were
helpful, the food was great (Saturday was a potluck), and I was the lucky
recipient of a fabulous backrub.  

The people who stayed with me were great, too.  After the Saturday evening
event I was so tired I just collapsed, but they straightened up for me.
The house was actually presentable when I got up Sunday morning!  Thanks
very much, David, Mirin, and Eric, for your help.  

To my husband, Ray, thank you for your help, both before and after, and
for your support and assistance during.  

I'm hoping to host a pizza party  with Rich Wingerter sometime later this
year - watch this space for details as they become available.  There are
also some rumors that another net.host is going to step forward and host
a party before year's end.  What can I say?  A little bribery with dim sum,
and the next thing you know....

A number of people have sent messages of encouragement and support.  While
I hope to get back to each of you individually, I also wanted to take this
opportunity to thank you, and to tell you that I appreciate your kindness.
You did a lot to put the "Relaxi" back in the Boink.
 
(So, what kind of events should we choose for next year?  8-)
 
--Teri
From: marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92  Post #1
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:28:27 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: user of Netcom Public Access Unix, SF Bay Area

In article <1992Apr15.180446.5617@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>One question, Marvin:  How much money do you expect to make off the
>_Batman II_ outing?

  If I made $50.00, is that ok? What if it was $500.00? What if it
was $1000.00? What if I have a friend at the theater or the movie company
and they said "as long as we make the money from the candy sales,
you can take all the money from the ticket sales?"

  When you go to purchase a computer on sale, do you ask, or even
care how much the seller is making? You weigh the cost against the
goods or services you're receiving and you decide whether to make the 
purchase or not.

If you're worried about my profit, don't come. I've received lots of email
telling me 'the check is in the mail'. If you're unhappy or angry with 
the way I run or plan an event, don't attend.


                  -marvin


>
>Didn't you net something like $600 from _Star Trek VI_?
>
>Just curious.
>
>Charleen
>
>--
>A funeral procession was passing the municipal golf course.  One golfer
>removed his hat, placed it over his heart and bowed his head.  One of
>the other golfers commented how thoughtful that was.  The guy replied,
>"It's the least I could do.  After all, we were married for almost 40 years."


-- 
Marvin Raab                                  
marv@netcom.com                              Mountain View, CA 94040
apple.com!netcom.com!marv                    415-961-6501 (h)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: douglas@netcom.com (Doug - MIS x7889)
Subject: Re: RelaxiBoink III vs. the complainer
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 16:47:28 GMT
Organization: Approach Software Corp.  Redwood City, CA  94063
Distribution: ba

In article <1992Apr10.175737.21095@Veritas.COM> rdh@Veritas.COM (Robert Hartman) writes:
>
>I hadn't planned on coming to the party because I live rather far from
>the area.  However, I've been following the preparations.  It sounds like
>an elaborate and fun bash!

Please excuse my TOTAL ignorance, but is there some type of net.gathering
that is going on?  Could someone drop me an email note and let me know
what the lowdown is?

A few weeks back when there was first mention of it I emailed the person
who mentioned that they were hosting it, asking for details and never
had a response.  Judging from the last post, I had better not ask twice. :-)

-DM

-- 
Douglas Mason                                    douglas@netcom.COM
Network administration / software development    douglas@netcom.UUCP
Approach Software Corporation                    +1 415.306.7889

Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: richwing@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rich Wingerter)
Subject: MoreBoink
Keywords: Pizza, Boinks
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 06:29:55 GMT

It's true, Teri and I have discussed putting on a joint Boink.  I think I can
narrow the time frame down to sometime this summer.

What I have in mind is a boink with a Pizza Party Part on Saturday.  Unlike
most pizza parties, my pizza parties feature home made pizza.  I supply the
crust and the sauce and you bring your own toppings.  (My pizza sauce recipe is
a secret family recipe handed down through generations of my German ancestors.)

:-)

Teri says she will supply the party location.  I'll soon be taking
reservations.

Thanks Teri for hosting a swell boink!


--Rich Wingerter
From: jbryan@oracle.com (John Bryan)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: RelaxiBoink
Date: 8 Apr 92 18:55:10 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Oracle Corporation, Redwood Shores CA


Hi,

After seeing all this net traffic about clubs/bars, I thought I'd tell
you all about a club that I DJ at on Saturday nights in Palo Alto.
The name of the club is in-U-N-do, and it is located at 340 University
Ave in downtown Palo Alto (Liddicoat's).  Last weekend was our first
weekend and it looked promising.  We play a mix of Reggae, Soca,
Hip-Hop and House music (exact proportions of each determined by crowd
enthusiasm!). There is a cover charge of $5, but passes are available
for a discount of $2 (call 415-369-3279 for more info or passes).
From 11pm to midnight, selected canned beers and glasses of house wine
(white zinfandel) are only $1!  Dress code is casual (not sloppy!),
and most people seemed to have a good time last week. If the people
last week are any indication, it should be a pretty enjoyable place to
spend an evening.    

This week the theme is 'Spring Fever,' so if your psyched that spring
is finally here, come on down and celebrate at in-U-N-do.  Hope to see
you there!

Irie.

JB.
From: marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92  Post #1
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:12:43 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.9a1j4=m.marv
Distribution: ba
Organization: user of Netcom Public Access Unix, SF Bay Area

In article <1992Apr15.180747.5768@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>
>Huh?  I stood in line for 45 minutes to get into the private screening
>of _Star Trek VI_.  How will this be different?


  The idea behind getting there early is to be able to mingle with
anyone else in line. You could have shown up 5 mins before and still be 
guaranteed a seat (assuming you had your ticket).

  What I'm planning to do, thanks to a suggestion by Stuart McIntyre from Sun,
is hand out numbers at Batman II. This way, you arrive with your ticket, 
receive a number from me, and go meet others. When the doors open, you present
your number (in sequential order) to me and then the ticket to the theater 
people. Early arrivers get lower numbers.


                -marvin


-- 
Marvin Raab                                  
marv@netcom.com                              Mountain View, CA 94040
apple.com!netcom.com!marv                    415-961-6501 (h)
From: aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92  Post #1
Date: 16 Apr 92 21:43:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.2b1jdhq.aahz
Distribution: ba
Organization: Bill 'n' Opus for Prez

In article <1992Apr15.180747.5768@ads.com> charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>In article <a9yjsbd.marv@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
>>
>>To enjoy this event, I have, once again, rented an entire theater for
>>singles and their friends (singles have married and attached friends) for
>>a private screening without the hassles of standing in line
>
>Huh?  I stood in line for 45 minutes to get into the private screening
>of _Star Trek VI_.  How will this be different?

I think that's less time than you'd have had to spend if you'd gone to a
regular theatre.  Even if not, I thought the payoff from seeing STVI
with a bunch of Trekkie net.people was well worth it.

I probably won't go see Batman, but then again, I don't see that many
movies in the first place.
-- 
                         --- Aahz (the *other* Dan Bernstein)
                             @netcom.com 

Hugs and backrubs -- I break Rule 6

Why is this newsgroup different from all other newsgroups?
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: Post-BOINK!
Date: 7 Apr 92 06:08:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: ads.1992Apr7.060857.21177
Distribution: ba
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies

In article <htljdxb.aahz@netcom.com> aahz@netcom.com (Aahzmandius) writes:
>
>Either the first or second weekend in May, we'll make a sushi run down 
>to Monterey.  Evidently, there's a really good all-you-can-eat sushi bar
>there, and we can combine it with a trip to the Aquarium. 

Oh.  I thought you *were* talking about a trip to the Aquarium.

Remember:  never name your food.  It's hard to eat something you're
on a first name basis with.

Charleen
if i were a man, that would be a dangler participle

--
In a hotel in Athens:
       Visitors are expected to complain at the office between the hours
       of 9 and 11 A.M. daily.
From: erich@netcom.com (Erich Proudfit)
Subject: Re: Pool-hall radar
Date: Mon, 06 Apr 92 20:00:47 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 

>JGFJ>bualat@ptolemy.arc.nasa.gov (Maria Bualat) writes:
>JGFJ>>Speaking of pool...Does anyone know of any good pool halls in the
>JGFJ>>South Bay.

California Billiards on Stevens Creek & Lawrence Expy is a pretty good place.
The tables are in good condition, there are LOTS of tables, but if you go there
late on a Friday or Saturday, be prepared to wait an hour.  It's not too
pricey either.
 

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+----------------------------------+--------------------------------------+
|  Erich Proudfit                  |                                      |
|  Western Microtechnology         |                                      |
|  800-MEGABIT                     |                                      |
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|  email: erich@netcom.netcom.com  | GO San Jose Sharks!!!                |
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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: ba.singles
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92  Post #1
Date: 17 Apr 92 18:18:06 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <1992Apr17.105606.1381@clarinet.com> funnyr@clarinet.com (Funny Guy) writes:
>Since I seem to have started this, let me say that the rest of you are
>over-reacting.   As I said, I am glad to see Marvin make as much from this
>as he can, and I have no problem -- correct that, there *is* no problem --
>with his promoting on this newsgroup.   (Some people have gotten a myth
>in their heads that USENET is somehow non-commercial, it is not.  The
>#2 and #3 groups on usenet, misc.jobs.offered and misc.forsale, consist
>of NOTHING but ads.)
 
There is a difference between ads found in these groups and advertising a
business on the net.  The ads found in those groups are "one time" ads. The
are not advertisements for products that are for sale to the general public.
If a company offers a position for, say a technical publications writer they
are only advertising that one postion.  If they post a blanket ad extolling
the virtues of working for their company that is something altogether different.
I would have figured that, posting from clarinet, you'd know the difference.


>All I said was that he should be honest about it.  Saying "a $7 value if
>you compare it to an evening show" was slightly misleading.   Only slightly,
>though, and I'm sorry that I ever commented on it if this is the reaction
>that it's going to get.
 
I agree.  I think Marvin should have indicated in his posting what his risks
were and that he "might" make a profit.  I don't have a problem with Marvin
making a profit on this.  It's primarily a ba.singles activity.  If he doesn't
post to ba.singles than the people at ba.singles won't have the opportunity
to have a get-together like this and Marvin won't get the experience for
an enterprise that may extend beyond ba.singles.
-- 
+=============================================================================+
| John Fereira                Al Bundy for President          
| johnf@auspex.com         "He's as good as the next guy"                     |
+=============================================================================+
Newsgroups: ba.singles
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: ba.singles and BATMAN II -- 6/20/92  Post #1
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:47:22 GMT

In article <h9zjxbj.marv@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
>
>I'm also putting my name into this and I have big dreams of eventually 
>starting a business for singles that the world has never seen
>before. I actually already have the business but lack the full courage and
>capital needed to turn it into the full-blown reality I conceive.
>
>So, if paying an extra dollar or two for 2 hours of pure, hasslefree fun
>angers you (generic), please let me know and don't attend. I'd rather 
>cater to people who have no hesitancy about paying a small reimbursement
>for my efforts than to people who pay and then continually complain 
>about how I'm making a profit.

I'm not complaining about you making a profit, Marvin; I'm simply
pointing it out for the edification of those who were under the
mistaken impression that this was one of the usual volunteer-organized
nonprofit net.parties that other people have put on.  It's not.  It's a
production of Marvin Raab Enterprises, or whatever you call your
business.  I didn't know that before I ordered the tickets for the Star
Trek VI outing.

While it's true that you put a lot of hard work into your ventures and
have probably organized more local net.events than anyone else
(although Teri surely must run a close second), those of us who have
done it for free have worked hard, too, and for precious little thanks
or anything else.  And while I don't blame you for wanting to cash in on
your genius for organization, I would have had a helluva lot more respect
for you had you been upfront about the setup to begin with.

Charleen

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A: "Is it mine?"                     
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