HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jwilson@homeboy.msfc.nasa.gov (Jackie Wilson - BCSS)
Subject: Re: Miss. State QB update
Reply-To: jwilson@homeboy.msfc.nasa.gov
Organization: Boeing Computer Support Services
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 20:00:44 GMT

Daaave, whats goin on man?  I've found the time to read
my favorite news group again.  I still enjoy you insightful
game summaries :^)  Anyway, speaking of quarterbacks....
I hear AU's eternal favorite QB isn't doing that well at
Texas Christian.  Its to be expected that a first time head
coach at a perennial celler-dweller won't do that well but
I thought Pat might work some war-eagle magic.  I heard
he started a "walk of the horned frogs" to the stadium on
game day.

Jackie Wilson
Boeing Computer Support Services

"Touchdown Auburn!!  Touchdown Auburn!!"
	-- Jim Fyffe on any given Saturday in the fall

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu (David Mathias)
Subject: Yankee Conference
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 19:48:12 GMT


A sports almanac I have claims that Northeastern, William & Mary and 
James Madison will all join the Yankee Conference (Division I-AA)
in 1993.  Does anyone know if this is true.  Anyone at any of these
schools know details.  This would bring the conference to 12 teams,
will they abandon round-robin scheduling? 


-- 

David Mathias    Washington University in St Louis    dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu


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From: retrac@vesuvius.cs.rice.edu (John Carter)
Subject: Re: MICH: 60 something HOUSTON:7
Organization: Rice University, Houston
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 03:59:38 GMT

>Patrick W Lauson writes:
>>JIMMY A. MILLER writes:
>>>sybesma@quip.eecs.umich.edu writes:

>>> As far as the score,  it wasn't nearly that close.  Michigan sat on 
>>> the ball the entire second half... Of course, what else do ya do 
>>> when you're up 42-0.

>>  If you're Houston, you keep throwing the ball downfield, trying to score some
>>more points, demonstrating a total lack of class, and generating ill feelings
>>that will come back and haunt you for years to come.

>Did anybody else love it as much as I did when Michigan went for it on
>4th down _3_ times in the 4th quarter?  I was hoping that they would have
>the ball with like 5 seconds left so that they could throw a bomb into the
>endzone.  I was also disappointed that I didn't see a post-game interview
>with Jenkins.  I wanted to see him cry and complain that Michigan ran up
>the score on them.  Wah, wah....  What an asshole...

Well, I don't like Jenkins, but you're way off base here.  He's consistent,
and plays by the rule: NO QUARTER GIVEN, NO QUARTER EXPECTED.  I saw a few
interviews with him since the game, and he didn't once complain about the
score or the way Michigan piled up the points.  In fact, he went out of his
way to say that he would've been insulted if the Wolverines had been NOT
trying to score each time they touched the ball.  He poured praise all over
the Wolverines, saying that they were the best team he had ever played, that
they should walk away with the Big Ten, and that he hoped his team had
learned some things from playing such a talented squad.

You (and I) may not approve of his tactics, but I have to respect the fact
that he is consistent with his philosophy and expects both teams to continue
to put forth maximum effort for sixty minutes.  He doesn't care how loudly
you cry if the Cougars destroy you, nor does he cry when you destroy him.

-- 
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Thesis hacking Owl, soon to be Ute.  Move over Salt Lake, here he comes!
From: jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: FSU v. Miami
Date: 28 Sep 92 21:24:30 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

In article <1992Sep28.165819.28850@cs.ucf.edu> tech@maitland.cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes:
>In article <1p_pt+r@lynx.unm.edu> jade@triton.unm.edu (Eric Jaderlund) writes:
>>In article <BvAMrM.BC9@news.larc.nasa.gov> ohmann@sabaad.larc.nasa.gov (Daring Dale Douglas) writes:
>>>OK, so the 'Canes were caught looking ahead.  It's no surprise since
>>>the FSU/Miami game winner will be front runner for the MNC (no matter how
>>>good Washington may look this week).
>>
>>Yeah.... thats why Washington is ranked #1 and Miami and FSU are #2 and #3????
>>
>>And New Mexico will hold Falk to -15 yards rushing this week too!! :-)
>>
>>-Eric Jaderlund
>> jade@triton.unm.edu
>
>Eric is obviously suffering from the football equivalent of penis
>envy. He also misses the point of Daring Dale's posting. I believe Dale

Well I'm not even going to respond to that.

>was trying to say that the Arizona game, and whichever game
>Washington plays this weekend are not going to be important when the
>pollsters decide number 1 next week. Miami is still in the catbird
>seat. If they beat FSU I think they will probably move back into the

We'll see about that.  As a matter of fact Washington is playing U$C this
weekend...a potentially tough team.  But the fact is, #1 teams really have
to lose their postion by losing or a poor showing, at least if past
experience holds true.  If Washington wins in any kind of decent manner
they will stay #1 no matter how the Miami, FSU game goes...especially
now that Miami's quality is in question...( <10 yards rushing against
Arizona?????)

>number 1 spot. If they go on to beat Penn State they will probably be
>cemented in that spot again. If FSU wins (god help us) they will
>probably move into the number 1 spot. Even if they don't move into the
>number 1 spot an unlikely undefeated season, with wins over Miami,
>Florida, and Virginia in Virginia will certainly move them into the
>number 1 position no matter what wash. does. Washington is really in a
>peculiar position with a weak schedule in a year when one or two big
>games would probably give them another NC. Earlier this year I thought
>an NC would be certain for wash but their schedule will most likely do
>them in. Another poster thought that wash is just doing what Miami has
>done for years by staying number 1 without a schedule. But Miami plays
>FSU every year with a Penn state or ND thrown in and often two wins
>over strong teams was all it took to be NC. I don't see anything
>similar in the wash schedule. It's going to be a great weekend.

Hmmmm.... I guess a win over an undefeated Michigan team in the Rose
Bowl would not be a big win then?????  Washington will have their
chance to show if they deserve the MNC, if nowhere else but in the
Bowl game.

>
>Tony (Just say 'Noles) Travaglini
>tech@cs.ucf.edu
>

 Eric ( Football Penis Envy ) Jaderlund
 jade@triton.unm.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: pdunn@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Patrick L Dunn)
Subject: Re: 1-AA the true no 1 team
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:14:47 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.185158.2350@cbnewse.cb.att.com> jimf@cbnewse.cb.att.com (
james.r.fehrenbacher) writes:

>Too bad Troy St of Alabama isn't elgible. They may be the best team in 1-AA
>this year. I believe they won a Division II National Championship a few
>years back.

They sure do have a good team, it seems.  Good Tests will be against Samford 
Nov. 7 and Ga Southern Nov. 14.  I wonder how they might do against Marshall or
N. Iowa.

PDunn
From: tehyang@aludra.usc.edu (Teh Kao Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Cal schedule needed
Date: 4 Oct 1992 01:09:15 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Could someone please post the remaining schedule for Cal this season?
Thanks a lot!

BTW - It's so great to see the much overrated UCLA Bruins get beaten by
the Wildcats and have their Rose Bowl hopes crushed.....hehehe.

-Tehkao

Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: milius@proton.med.umn.edu (Bob Milius (BMEC))
Subject: Re: The NEW Penn State MNC Scenario!
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 03:54:31 GMT

In article <1992Oct06.160551.1839@ncrcae.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM> ldr@lightnin.Columbia.NCR.COM (Dale Robbins) writes:
>In article <92279.183450MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu> MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu (mark rieker) writes:
>>
>>       Tennesee and Alabama - I guess they'll play each other, so at least
>>       one of them won't be undefeated. Georgia is lookin good, and I can't
>>       see either one of these teams going undefeated, and even if they do
>>       who cares, we're already ahead of them in USA/CNN poll.
>                                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>So.....
>It's the AP poll that counts and Tenn., Texas A&M, and Ala. are all ahead of
>Penn S.  This is the "official" Poll of the BCI.  

It's only 'official' for the BCI, and it is still a *Mythical* NC. I'm sure
USA/CNN will still be giving out their trophy and folks would still talk
about a split national championship if the two major polls disagreed at the
end.

-bob
a Michigan fan
 
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From: kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Division 3 Game of the Year
Summary: TARTANS RULEZ!!!
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:45:15 GMT
Organization: Plaid Curtain

In article <QemxRCy00WBMQ_PoFj@andrew.cmu.edu> Jason Matthew Grusky <jg4r+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>    The winner of Saturday's matchup between Carnegie Mellon University
>(Pittsburgh) and Allegheny College (Meadville, Pa) could be a good
>indicator of who will win this year's Division 3 national championship. 

I know that CMU beat Juniata 34-0 and and Washington (St. Louis) 31-7,
but then lost to Rochester 16-10.  Are the Tartans or the Yellowjackets
among the ranked Division III teams?  How have the Gators fared so far?
And where is the game being played?

>But who cares... 

Me (CMU '84) and all my high school friends who studied "liberal arts"
at Allegheny.  I'm looking forward to your complete game report next
week :-)
-- 
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Martin Marietta MS A16401		(303) 790-3971
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: dbrod@eng.clemson.edu (Douglas Brod)
Subject: Re: ACC This Week: Predictions and Such
Reply-To: dbrod@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:03:24 GMT

In article 28867@ncsu.edu, jvbutera@grad09.math.ncsu.edu (Jeffrey V. Butera) writes:
>In article <009617D0.190E4380@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU> mchenry@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU (MCHENRY@BAE.NCSU.EDU) writes:
>*In article <9210011929.AA12584@walt.disney>, chill@walt.UUCP (Curtis Hill) writes:
>*>
>*I've heard rumors that Clemson might have an eye on Dick Sheridan.
>*Anyone else hear anything. Is Hattfield really finished? Will winning
>*the rest this years games save his job? What about the rumor about
>*Danny Ford and South Carolina?
>
>Seeing how Danny Ford is now working with Arkansas, I doubt he'd leave 
>to go to South Carolina quite anytime soon.
>
>As far as Clemson, it's a question of who's more powerful, IPTAY or 
>the Clemson Administration.  IPTAY'ed replace any non 8-3 or better 
>coach in a heartbeat, whereas I think the administration wants Hatfield
>to clean up Clemson's left-over Danny Ford (I-don't-care-about-the-players-
>graduation-rates) problems.  Clemson's graduation rate actually did not 
>budge after prop 48 went into effect, whereas the NAtional football players
>rates went up almost 10-20%.

And after Hatfield came to Clemson, the grade point averages didn't budge.  Ken has this squeaky-clean image, but he apparently hasn't helped in the grade department one bit.
 
>Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.
>Math Graduate Student
>N.C. State University    "Still looking for a witty quote." 
>jvbutera@math.ncsu.edu                           -Brad Halls

Doug brod
dbrod@eng.clemson.edu      "Still waiting for a real coach."
                                                  - Me
From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Gupta Power Ratings 9-28-92
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:27:53 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <15731@borg.cs.unc.edu> morse@cs.unc.edu (Bryan Morse) writes:
>
>A question on your ratings: when you compute a team's opponent's
>W-L-T, do you recognize head-to-head games among the opponents?
>(I'm assuming you discard the actual game against the team in
>question.)
>
>In other words, if team A (5-0) beat teams B(4-1) and C(3-2),
>and team B beat C, is A's opponent's W-L-T
>
>a) 7-3  (straight addition--bad)
>b) 7-1  (discard games with A--better)
>c) 6-0  (also discard game between B and C)
>
I would hope that he does (b).  If he did (c) then that would totally mess
up any conferences.  The only games included in opponents W-L-T would
be out of conference opponents.  I see your point though.....
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From: delaw@eos.ncsu.edu (DOUGLAS EDWARD LAW )
Subject: Re: Virginia Football 
Keywords: Not Yet... 
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 05:26:13 GMT

In article <BvG0tE.99q@news.larc.nasa.gov>, titlow@zephyr.larc.nasa.gov (jay titlow) writes:
|> I second Charlie Cockrell's reply to UVA "posters" who are going a bit overboard

|> on the team's success this year.  True, UVA has made one remarkable turn-aroun

  I agree that the UVA posters are getting a little giddy.
I didn't see the game, but it seems that the Cavs put a real hurting
on Tech. I wonder if they ran up the score to pad their numbers?
I know they did against Navy. I mean, was it neccessary for Goodman
to throw *5* TD passes to beat the hapless Middies? I don't think so.
Just my 2 cents.
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: atchison@harp.cis.ohio-state.edu (Mark Atchison)
Subject: Re: Miami, Florida
Organization: The Ohio State University Dept. of Computer and Info. Science
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:30:58 GMT


>>Lucky?  Well, the way I see it, Arizona went for a field goal on 4 and 7.  I
>>heard it was more than fifty yards.   Miami held them to a distance where it
>>would of been lucky if they made the field goal.
>>
>>ds4@soc6.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS)

Missed by a scant couple of inches wide right.  Plenty of distance.  I'd call
that a certain degree of luck.

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		Any plagiarisms seen above are not my own...
From: paul@enuxha.eas.asu.edu (Greg Paul)
Subject: Re: Pay for seating...
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:57:26 GMT

>
>+>Finally, on a serious note, how many of y'all (students, that is) actually
>+>pay for football seating?   Entrance for UNC students is free at Kenan
>+>stadium.  I believe the same holds true for State, Virginia, and Duke.
>

    What the heck is the point?  Whether it's through extra fees, school
budgetting, or taxed credits, students pay for football games....


--
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Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: manu@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (K. S. Manu)
Subject: Re: Sorry, Gophers!
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 21:54:33 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.205051.4882@news.stolaf.edu> alvstad@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Joel D Alvstad) writes:
>
>Hey, CU fans--see you in the Toilet Bowl!!

This year, CU is going Orange... Iowa game was just the begining...
Cale Gundy is going to remember oct 17th for a looong time... with pain!
Chad Brown & co have decided to go sacking...

Njan
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: behzad@mdd.comm.mot.com (Behzad Khamneian)
Subject: Re: TROJAN NEWS VOL.9 (USC/UW NOTES)
Organization: Motorola, Mobile Data Division - Seattle, WA
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:34:56 GMT

In article <2OCT199219094181@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov> acdendy@lims02.lerc.nasa.gov (ROGER DENDY) writes:
>In article <1992Oct1.234421.9467@u.washington.edu>, baze@carson.u.washington.edu (Behzad Khamneian) writes...
>>  NOTES:  A lot of people on the net have been making mistakes on how to 
>>          spell the single and plural of the word Husky, so here it is:
>>          - Single:  Husky
>>          - Plural:  Huskies
>> 
>>  Not Huskie, Huskys, or Huskey and Huskee!!
>> 
>>  Any questions?  :)
>> 
>
>Yeah, does the university own the Husky-Boy Burger Stand on PCH by Laguna 
>Beach?
>
>R Dendy
>

  No, unfortunately not!!  
  Are they big burgers?  How big?  As big as Red Robin's hamburgers?  

Thanx,

-Behzad



Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: jbhuber@iastate.edu (Joseph B Huber)
Subject: Re: Big 8 Review(10-5-92)
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 20:12:17 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.111228@mccall.com> scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
writes:

>OU started the 2nd half by fumbling
>inside ISU's 5.  But then OU held ISU and marched down field for 75yds
>and a TD, which included a pass interference call on 3rd-n-8.  Coach
>Walden said, "When a guy falls down in front of a guy and he falls over
>him, I used to think that was not pass interference.   It broke my heart
>to see that." 

This was a TERRIBLE call. The replays show that the OU reciever tripped over
his own feet and fell down, and the ISU defender tripped over the OU reciever.
There was no way that the official should have missed that call.  Instead of
4th-n-8 in their own territory, OU got a big gain, a first down, and quickly
scored a TD. 

Another bad call: the ISU punter was roughed and the OU receiver muffed the
punt reception, but OU recovered the ball. ISU was flagged for (according to
Walden) not giving the reciever an opportunity to make a fair catch. On the
replay, the reciever never gives any type of fair catch indication. Instead of
an ISU first down close to mid-field, there are off-setting penalties and ISU
has to re-kick. (IMO, even if the OU reciever did give a fair catch
indication, he had enough room to catch the ball.)

Walden was considering filing some type of complaint with the Big-8, but I'm
not sure if he will. He was quite upset during the game, and I don't blame
him. Perhaps it is best to forget about it and move on.

                 ISU      OU      
>rush yds	40-121	34-104
>pass yds	35	333
>return yds	0	44
>pass		4-7-1	21-28-1
>punts		8-44	2-38
>fumbles-lost	4-0	5-3
>penalties	3-30	6-65
>time poss	32:17	27:43

ISU didn't have enough offense to win the game, although the Cyclones did
manage to hold on to the ball and keep Gundy off the field for over half the
game. I was surprised by the ISU's low total offense, considering that ISU had
the ball for over 30 minutes.

I think that ISU-KU matchup will be a good one.

-- 
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(jbhuber@iastate.edu)        | Capt. James T. Kirk on the 2nd law of thermo: 
Dept. of Mech. Egr.          |  "It's not a hundred percent efficient,
Iowa State University        |   but nothing ever is."
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Miami - ND (once again)
Followup-To: Mike Cornwall art.8153
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1992 19:03:44 GMT


In article <5510@news.duke.edu> ds4@soc13.acpub.duke.edu (DIMITRIS SIDIROPOULOS) writes:

>>Plus that Pell Grant scandal (which was bad) does not go against NCAA regulations,
>>however the actions that your linebacker took, does go against regulations.
>>The Pell Grant situation is a university wide problem which was created by a
                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>single individual and not the school as a whole.
>>
>>-ds4

>Yo dim,

>Is that what they teach at Miami? If everyone lies, steals, and cheats it's OK.
>Miami must graduate a lot of lawyers, politicians, and used car salesmen. I
>guess it also explains the high amount of criminal activity among its athletes.

I read this and thought to myself, "why bother responding to this blithering idiot"?
And I came to the conclusion that people with skulls as thick as this one will never
comprehend the written word. This lame brain appears to be of the mistaken opinion
that the Hurricanes have a monopoly on collegiate athletes participating in criminal
activity. It is obvious to me that this individual is completely misinformed as to
the facts of life. And all I can say is that I feel sorry for you Mr. Cornwall. For
it appears to me that you have a very limited and narrow minded viewpoint which
will severely limit your ability to accept the realities of the world around you.

Take a piece of advice, open your eyes,and ears and look and listen to everything
you can before you formulate your opinions. People will then begin to respect
them. Until then you will continue to sound like a blithering idiot to anyone with
a modicum of intelligence.


John T.

Go CANES! Go DOLPHINS!
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From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: UCLA 92
Keywords: n
Date: 5 Oct 92 21:51:37 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1992Sep14.140533.1452@eagle.lerc.nasa.gov> lavelle@aardvark.lerc.nasa.gov writes:

>>  The way the Rose Bowl works for the Pac-10, if there is a tie, and the
>>teams tied have no head-to-head games against each other, the team that has
>>not been to the Rose Bowl the longest gets to go.  If it's a three-way tie,
>>any team which beat the other two head-on will go to the Rose Bowl- otherwise
>>it goes back to who hasn't been there the longest.  Starts getting complicated
>>at this point, because I guess it could be possible in a three-way tie that
>>one team has lost to the other two teams.
>>
>>  So who is predicting UCLA will sweep the Bay Area Pac-10 teams? :-)
>>
>I am not predicting that UCLA will win the PAC-10.  I just think that
>it is an interesting possibility.  Washington is the only team in the PAC
>that does not control its own destiny at this time.  Would Washington
>go to the Bowl alliance or would they go to the bowl for the second
>place PAC-10 team?  Could the National title possibly be decided
>in the Aloha Bowl?
>
>ANyway I thought that it was important to bring this up now before
>the bruins lose their first PAC game and make this a mute point
>
>
>
>Go Bruins!!!!!               __     __   ________         __           ___
>Tom Lavelle                 /\_\   /\_\ /_______/\       /\_\         /\__\

  Hope you didn't jinx your team by talking Roses so early in the season :-)

  Doug
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