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From: debbiek@rruxc.uucp (25670s-kennedy)
Subject: Re: HF: Is it on Tonight?
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 16:42:07 GMT

In article <libajm.722187875@gsusgi1.gsu.edu>, libajm@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Amy J. McCormack) writes:
> jackie8@dasher.cc.bellcore.com () writes:
> 
> >Is it on tonight? The episode that's supposed to be
> >on next is the dancing episode from the first season,
> >right?
> 
>   I think there is a new episode on tonight, the dancing episode 
>   will be on Thanksgiving night.

Then why do I keep seeing this "Matlock" commercial?
They say it's a Special Matlock MOVIE and it will be
on Thursday, and I am none too thrilled:-((
It seems like every other week this geezer Matlock is on.
Guess he has to get while the getting is good :-).
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From: jgacker@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov (James G. Acker)
Subject: B&B:  Here's hoping...
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Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 12:22:06 -0500 (EST)
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     This is another test.  Bear with me.

     And no clawing!

     Jim Acker
     jgacker@neptune.gsfc.nasa.gov


	YEEHAA!  We are still in business folk and folkettes!

	From the back door to the gateway to you, B&BuPdAtEs Inc.
can still get the news out!

	C'ya all later this P.M.

	
	Jim "humbly in awe of the power of the computer
to screw what was once easy into a muddled mess" Acker
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 09:11:41 EST
From: Joni Snyder <JSNYDER@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC:TAN:NEWBETS: The Tad Lotto 921119


In article <BxzrF8.CG5@ddsw1.mcs.com>, starkid@ddsw1.MCS.COM (Lance Sanders)
says:
>
>   Yo.
>
>     ***   REMINDER --- CUTOFF DAY FOR BETS IS DECEMBER 1, 1992   ***
>
>

Since I'm running out of time I guess I'd better state my prediction.


JSNYDER@AUVM.AMERICAN.EDU (Joni Snyder)
Target:     12/17/92  00:51:45 ETA
No Alternate
Glen-Ellen White Zinfandel

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From: ac@cheshire.oxy.edu (Aileen Cho)
Subject: Re: ATWT: meg/iva/error/lily
Organization: Occidental College, Los Angeles, CA 90041 USA.
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:39:19 GMT


  I agree...I mean, about why is it such a big deal about Lily knowing
about Aaron.  Was deCay-lip also really re-pissed at Holdie? I thought
that would be dumb too, I mean he went through all that bother to forgive
Holdie, and it certainly wasn't Holdie's fault if the his sperm got to
the redhead egg first.  If the K-lip was going to not forgive somebody,
it should be the Slut, not his bro.  _She_ wasn't drunk.
                                                         --ac
From: sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: Who should die a grusome death poll
Date: 23 Nov 1992 00:14:22 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu



Okay here are the results of the poll.


Male characters:

(A tie for 4th place with one vote each)
4. Roger Lombard = 1 vote.
4. Shawn-Douglas = 1 vote.
3. Roman Brady (Wayne Northrope) = 5 votes.
2. Austin Reed = 11 votes.
And the first place winner with the vast majority of votes.

1. Bo Brady (RKK) = 17 votes.


Female characters:

(Now the results for this were rather interesting; no clear winner
as with the men).

5. Taylor McCall = 1 vote.
4. Kim Brady = 4 votes.
3. Carrie Brady (present version) = 7 votes.
2. Billie Reed = 11 votes.
Second and First place were very close but we do have a winner.

1. Dr. Carly Manning = 12 votes.

Thus the top three over all are:
(Tied for 3rd with 11 votes each the new kids on the block; with time
they may surpass everyone).
3. Austin Reed = 11 votes
3. Billie Reed = 11 votes
2. Dr. Carly Manning = 12 votes.
And the grand prize winner the least tolerable character/acter

1. Bo Brady (RKK) = 17 votes.


The top characters who won tend to get the most airtime. It has
been reported that the acter who plays Roger Lombard, and that
Wayne Northrop will be leaving the show; ClassicCarrie will be
taking over the role so at least some of us will be getting
their wish.


Spudnix--Darn Tim is calling; the animal!!! I gotta make like
a bird a fly--Peel.



-- 
Amore e 'l cor gentil sono una cosa,	   |||	 Sally A. Wilson
  si come il saggio in suo dittare pone	   |||	 Spudnix Peel
  e cosi esser l'una sanza l'altro osa     |||	 sally@mica.berkeley.edu
  com'alma razional sanza ragione.  [_Vita_Nova_ XX, Dante]
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From: noonan@tolkin.enet.dec.com (My name is...)
Subject: AW & SB:  I missed you all!
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: 15 NOV 92 18:39:25    



         Hi everyone.  I just thought I would let you all know that I
         was back! 

         .sigless E, who is MOST upset at SB's cancellation!

         NOONAN@TOLKIN.ENET.DEC.COM
From: sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: TAN: Late Breaking, and Most Shocking News
Date: 18 Nov 1992 20:02:46 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu




Okay, I Spudnix, and the Timinator have come across a scandal
[major shudder].

It involves a number of inflatable figures, a hundred year old
pool table, and a citrus fruit.

First there was Watergate, then Irangate, then Iraqgate, and
coming more shocking than all these three combined, "Inflatable
Doll-gate.



Spudnix--

UC Davis Aggies will not win the first round of playoffs.
UC Davis Aggies will not win the first round of playoffs.


-- 
Amore e 'l cor gentil sono una cosa,	   |||	 Sally A. Wilson
  si come il saggio in suo dittare pone	   |||	 Spudnix Peel
  e cosi esser l'una sanza l'altro osa     |||	 sally@mica.berkeley.edu
  com'alma razional sanza ragione.  [_Vita_Nova_ XX, Dante]
From: sally@remarque.berkeley.edu (S. A. Wilson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: DOOL: a prediction
Date: 20 Nov 1992 19:27:56 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: remarque.berkeley.edu





Okay, now that "You say Nickie, I say Nikki--let's call the whole storline
off" was revealled to Carposuction as truely being her son. The following
scenario will occur. To keep Nikki's part in Lisanne's death secret Carpetbagger
will not tell Butthead. Also, we do know that Lizard and she will do the
wild thing or come damn close. Through his great skills as a cop Butthead
will find out the truth about Lisanne's death. In time it will be revealed
that his dear precious Carpetstain chockled him. This sets Boring off. He
goes to the Brady Pub and gets drunk. BillieGoatGruff is there of course.
She seduces Butthead. Later she fakes a pregnancy to grab him--after finding
out that poor Carnalknowledge can't conceive. Billie can provide Buttugly
with an heir, not Carly. Bo and Carly's tortured romance--the greatest the
show has ever had--will continue. This is, of course, a typical, and most
stupid soap ploy. 

Well, nice to hear Classic Carrie is coming back. But I really can't see
her with Asstin. This Carrie yes. But the other Carrie was too intelligent,
level headed. Not your typical stupid teen. I can't see her falling for a
dick like Asstin. She has more taste. Interesting too, is the fact that
Wayne is leaving. She and Drake had such good chemistry. She has not had
scenes with Wayne. Now we hear Wayne is leaving, this Scarrie is too. Could
there be some truth to the hope that the writers will make Drake Roman again?

Now if they would recast Asstin and Billie. The characters actually could
be interesting if accomplished, or even good acters played them. For
Austin get someone who actually was a pianoist. Who could give us some
emotion. For Billie get someone who could do a fantastic job at showing
the horrors of drug addiction. Who can make the whole thing realistic, instead
of a pathetic satire. And get someone who can sing well. Not someone who
is so exaggerated and idiotic when she tries to sing a song. Then the
Salem 90210 gang might be worth a watch. Side not: I was gleaming through
a Days's mag. and they referred to the younger set as Salem 90210--geez
I should as for compensation for stealing my phrase for them. I have
witnesses on this net.





Spudnix--Still reeling over the news that sister Lemon, is in fact a Core--Peel.


-- 
Amore e 'l cor gentil sono una cosa,	   |||	 Sally A. Wilson
  si come il saggio in suo dittare pone	   |||	 Spudnix Peel
  e cosi esser l'una sanza l'altro osa     |||	 sally@mica.berkeley.edu
  com'alma razional sanza ragione.  [_Vita_Nova_ XX, Dante]
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From: ljlucas@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Lori Lucas)
Subject: Re: GH: Opening title sequence
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 00:30:38 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.141637.1@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu> psscott@cudnvr.denver.colorado.edu writes:
>
>WHAT AMBULANCE?????  It appears that there must be different opening
>title sequences.  I watch GH in Denver, CO and all we get is a look at
>the "GH" building which I understand from my BH is really Los Angeles
>General Hospital.  Have I been missing something all these years?
>
>Peggy (University of Colorado at Denver)

Peggy,
     I assume you're watching it on Ch. 9 here in Denver, too.  I see the 
ambulance every morning (thanks to time-shifting) when I watch the previous 
days episode.  It does fly by pretty quick since I fast forward scan through it
to get on with the show, but it is there.
   				Lori

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++"Accomplishing the impossible means +  Lori Lucas
 only that the boss will add it to  +  U S WEST Communications, Inc.
 your regular duties."-Doug Larson  +  ljlucas@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The opinions expressed are my own and probably not shared by U S WEST Comm
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
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From: rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris)
Subject: Re: DOOL: TAN: Yes, Rick remembers Marlyn
Organization: Sadtler Research Laboratories
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:01:17 GMT

hither@toomces wrote:
>	My favorite is "Stone Soul Picnic". Remember
>that one? How 'bout a couple of bars of that for
>

Oh wow!  I do remember, I do remember!  UmmmUmmmmUmmmmm.....

Oh man!  Ummmmm..... It'll come to me!  Gosh it looks like a
call to Oldies 98 request line is in order!

-Rick.
-- 
Rick Morris                            Email:  rick@sadtler.com
Sadtler Research Labs, Philadelphia   -But I speak for myself
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From: tillis@icpsr.umich.edu (Eddie Tillis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: ATWT: Trivia #7
Date: 23 Nov 1992 05:22:25 GMT
Organization: University of Michigan
NNTP-Posting-Host: tdis.icpsr.umich.edu

In article <1eop71INNb59@rave.larc.nasa.gov> mike@scbked.larc.nasa.gov (Michael S warner) writes:
....[multiply quoted stuff deleted for your reading convenience]

>I think you've got the answer to the trivia question.  Chris wasn't born yet
>when Marcie was on the show.  She married Stuart, a nobleman of sorts who
>was also a tennis player.  Their marriage was no more than a few weeks after
>I first started watching the show.  And I THOUGHT that was Marcie on A 
>Different World, but I couldn't be sure.  It seems I've seen her elsewhere too.

The actress's name is Marisa Tomei and she has appeared in both "My Cousin 
Vinny" as Joe Pesci's girlfriend and "Oscar" as Stallone's daughter. She
was great inn both roles.

ET
-- 
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From: dwv@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Dave Vollman)
Subject: Re: AMC : Kidnapping tips
Organization: HASA "S" Division
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:16:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.161322.2935@leland.Stanford.EDU> thompson@waldron.Stanford.EDU (Sharon Thompson-Schill) writes:
>Have you noticed how crucial cellular phones are becoming to
>kidnappers these days? First Carter, on the house boat, till it
>sunk, and now Edmund in the wine cellar. How DID they do it
>in the OLD days?

No kidnapper worth their salt would use a cellphone anyway. First,
anyone with a scanner can hear you. Second it's easier for the phone company
to trace, since you can easily tell what the originating cell is and
how far the origination is away from the office (and I think they can
do direction within + or - 5 degrees). This gives
a relatively limited area of where you could be. They still use pay phones,
since line based phones are a little harder to trace.

Hey, wouldn't it be nice if Edmund and Carter were cell mates? :-)

-- 
				| Dave Vollman (HASA "S" Division)
  If I have a choice for the	| AT&T Bell Laboratories, Naperville, IL
  next life, trained seal is 	| Email: dwv@ihlpm.att.com
  looking damn good!		| AT&T would never let ME speak for THEM!
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From: kriesel@mari.acc-admin.stolaf.edu (Julie R Kriesel)
Subject: Re: WhirlyWard Nicknames
Organization: St. Olaf College; Northfield, MN
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:33:16 GMT

In article <16NOV199212255003@venus.tamu.edu> san7675@venus.tamu.edu (STEPH) writes:
>Ok, I'm curious... explain the pills and the nicknames to me, please??
Some nice person (GGG?  JlJ?  I don't remember...) will probably send you the
nickname list if you ask.  As for the pills, they're a nice touch when ATWT
is driving you insane..



>And I'm NOT goin in the linen closet again, so don't even suggest it.
>
>:)  Seriously, I'd like a name... What do I have to do?
>
>Steph
>
Sorry, but part of getting a nickname involves going into the Linen Closet
with a member (or three or four) of the opposite sex.  Believe me, they
know what they're doing.  Just watch out for EtTu...(he doesn't play fair,
if you know what I mean.  ;-))

Special K
From: kkozlows@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Karen Kozlowski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: SIS - who's the oldest
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:38:12 GMT
Reply-To: kkozlows@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM (Karen Kozlowski)
Distribution: usa
Organization: IRM Application Development - Dayton, OH

I have been reading about this argument for a while, so I thought that I
would put my two cents in ..

When I was watching the show on Saturday, I was thinking about this discussion
and have come to the conclusion that the way they show the girls in the show
intro probably is related to the order they fall in the family.  If I am not
mistaken, the first one they show is Alex.  The show her writing her name
in elementary school and then signing a check.  I think the rest of them fall
Teddy, Georgie (shows her getting married), and then Frankie.

Anyone else have any thoughts on this??

-- 
Karen S. Kozlowski                              () ()
IRM Application Development                      ( )
Karen.Kozlowski@wtcp.DaytonOH.NCR.COM
...!uunet!ncrcom!wtcp!kkozlows
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From: changj@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Julie Chang)
Subject: GL: W-B and Whiner Girl
Keywords: will this post?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 19:32:00 GMT


Hi.  

	Hopefully the second time is a charm....  I've already
tried to do this once and am not having luck.  If this is 
a repeat, I'm sorry.

	This is the first time I've ever posted so please forgive
any faux pas.  I've been lurking for about 2 years (has it been
that long?).  I decided to unlurk and vent some steam today
after watching Wed's show  I'm really getting frustrated
like a lot of others are.  It's nice to know that I'm not
alone.  Before I forget I'd also like to thank all the updaters
for the great work they do.  You should be commended for having
to watch the scenes that I FF through all the time.

	I'm with those who believe that Eleni and W-B deserve each
other.  I was wondering if anyone else got the feeling that
we were supposed to feel for her since she had to make such
a terrible decision during the scene in the diner with Frank.
I just have to say that I'm really happy that he did not
say 'Eleni, I forgive you.  How could I not?  I'll be waiting
for you when you feel strong enough to leave your husband....'
I was almost expecting that too, though I'm sure there is 
still time.  So how are the writers going to have everyone
find out who the baby is.  Maybe the ever so simple blood 
transfusion storyline or is that too soapy?

	Onto another topic, I think I read somewhere that Nov.
is a sweeps month, but I've been really disappointed with 
how slow the stories have been going.  They really are 
dragging on.  I though that the last sweeps time was fast 
paced and more exciting with Alex (miss her) and Roger 
getting each other.  It seems so long ago.

	Back to lurking and studying.

	Julie

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From: ""I can resist anything but temptation"" <tburgess@us.oracle.com>
Subject: AMC:Palmer's Back in Action!
Original-To: amcnet
Organization: Computer Science, Indiana University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 92 07:11:48 PST


<From: mjmh@crsa.bu.edu (Michael J M Holmes)
<YES! YES! YES! I am *so* excited!  oops, maybe better warn for spoilers...
<I hope this is enough!
<Palmer back in action, ready to take on Adam!
<Is this great, or what???

<I'm so excited!!!!
<Mike Holmes       mjmh@crsa.bu.edu           "Happiness Will Prevail!"
<Boston University Department of Geography (a truly GREAT place to work!)


YEAH!!! I was so excited when Palmer came bursting in Adam's and let him have
it....I almost gave my cockatoo a heart attack....This scene was
awesome...although it was spoiled by "I wish he were dead"Red character...but
I love it when Palmer is in take no prisoners mode!!!

I like Adam...but let's see Palmer make him squirm....talk about sparks...those
two have definite acting sparks!

I was worried that PC lost his touch....but he didn't!!

-Tia "Looking forward to seeing Palmer kick some Chandler Butt" Burgess
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From: tcarsten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Teresa C D Carstensen)
Subject: GL: Tuesday Updater Found 
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 21:16:24 GMT

The search is over.  Now that the cable company finally gave me a box 
that doesn't require me to leave the tv on all day if I want to tape GL, 
I am able to take over as the Tuesday updater.  I'll try to remember not 
to fast forward through the scenes that have characters that irritate 
me so that I can give y'all the full details.  With the way Eleni 
has been lately, I can't make any promises, though ;).  


TC  
-- 
tcarsten@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu         
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From: cad3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHERYL ANN DOUGHERTY)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: OLTL: Update for Tuesday, 11/10
Date: 16 Nov 92 17:39:25 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <wf17XCy00VIE427EZI@andrew.cmu.edu>, jt3j+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jennifer A
llyson Turner) writes:
>Excerpts from netnews.rec.arts.tv.soaps: 13-Nov-92 Re: OLTL: Update for
>Tuesda.. Patricia Peterson@nicmad (1840)
>
>> My feeling on this is that Cain is the product of a fling between Asa and
>> Rose Smith.  When Cain first came to town he wanted to get revenge on Asa
>> for leaving him and his mother.  Then he came to admire Asa, why for the
>> life of me I can't figure this out either.
>>
>> Just my humble opinion.
>
>> Patricia
>
>That's what I thought at first, but Cain is way to young to be the
>product of an Asa/Rose union.  Since Rose was Asa's first love, this
>would mean that Cain has to be older than Clint!
>
>Jenn
>
    I have also posted my feelings about this.  True, Cain is too young to be
    the product of Asa's fling with Rose Smith, but he is young enough to be a
    grandchild of that union.

    --Cheryl
From: tom@spud.kludge.com (Tom Lemos)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: AMC: Time-warped in the East Coast
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 92 10:42:08 PST
Organization: T.T.L.F.  San Francisco, CA

carol@ivy.Princeton.EDU (Carol Agans) writes:

> Okay you east-coast rats-types -- I have a question for you.
> For many many many years All My Children has come on my
> television set at 1:00.  Today (Thursday) I forgot to set the
> VCR (as usual, thats why I read this group right?) and missed
> taping the show.  So I turned the TV on to watch what was
> on my AMC tape from a few days back (that I hadn't watched yet)
> and at 3:19 on channel 7 -- when General Hospital is usually on --
> there was All My Children.  Today's show, not on tape, but on
> real tv at 3:19.  I am flabbergasted (sp)?  Palmer & Opal were
> in LaMaze and I sat there with my mouth open til 4:00 in disbelief
> that the show was on.  Does anyone know why?  (OK, so it took
> me a long time to get to the actual question.)

nope. here in SF.. we get LOVing at 11:00, KGO-TV News at 11:30, AMC at 12:00,
OLTL at 1:00 and GH at 2:00pm. I know that KABC-TV in LA has AMC at 12:00
also... hmmmm. West Coast is different.. but I like AMC at noon. I can eat
my lunch and watch AMC..

Tom@spud.kludge.COM                             Tater Tot Liberation Front
"People should be taught what is, not what should be."    San Francisco,CA
                                         -Lenny Bruce      +1.415.255.8340
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From: laurie@scs.unt.edu (Laurie O'Brien (CSAG 2765))
Subject: AMC: Unlurking
Organization: School of Community Service, UNT
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 22:19:44 GMT


I'm so excited!  This is my first time to post.  I've been lurking for quite 
a while now, but I decided it was time to come out of the closet.  Does 
anyone have a clue on how this Erica-Dimitri-Edmund-everybody else in 
Budapest thing will end?  I've been watching AMC since E was married to Tom 
and always enjoyed the pretty mainstream plots.  This Budapest thing reminds 
me of GH and the "Ice Princess".  Does anyone remember that?  Very strange.

Anyway, I'm down in Texas and enjoy reading the global viewpoints on AMC.  
Glad to know that I'm not the only one who laughs at the show while at the 
same time being addicted!

BTW, if I can ever provide an "update" every now and then, I'll be happy to 
do it.
From: snoopy@spacemanspiff.den.mmc.com (Cindy Camp)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv.soaps
Subject: Re: DOOL: Carrieherback
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:50:11 GMT
Organization: Denver, Colorado

In article <1992Nov20.023437.10160@panix.com> spira@panix.com (Greg "Sarcasm Is A Way Of Life" Spira) writes:
>The new Carrie will be the old Carrie.  Christie Clark will return
>to the role on December 18th.  Tracy Middendorf's last day is 
>December 3rd.
>
>To those who were hoping the teen story would disappear altogether
>(something I agree with) - sorry, but you knew that would never
>happen.  Network executives will never understand that younger viewers
>are more likely to tune in to see interesting older characters than
>boring, dull younger characters.  But at least all the current-Carrie-
>haters will benefit.  
>
>Greg 



WOOH! WOOH! YES! ALL RIGHT! COOL! AWESOME! YIPEEE! YEEHAW!
FAR OUT! SWEET! YES! AWESOME! COOL!  YEAH!


Pickle

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