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From: hunsts@cary108.its.rpi.edu (Scott N Hunstad)
Subject: need Guitar tab
Keywords: 
  
     Could some one please help me.  I am looking for guitar tab. for anything from rock to metal to thrash.  I would like stuff anywhere from Idle Cure or Petra to Vengence Rising.  I have tried getting stuff from the guitar.tab group, but to no avail.  I would be glad to give out tab in response.  If you feel this is an inappropriate place to post it, please email it to me at
                  hunsts@rpi.edu
Reply-To: hunsts@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 00:45:26 GMT

Thanks, it would be greatly appreciated.

God Bless
                                    Scott
From: Phil.Powell@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Phil Powell)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Mortification- new one
Date: 29 Sep 92 03:23:07 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

In article <1a76tiINNo0b@conquest.ksu.ksu.edu> superc@conquest.ksu.ksu.edu (Shawn E Chase) writes:
>
>Has anyone heard the new mortification. I have heard nocturnal and that's it. Is
>it as good as their first one???
>
>-- 
>Shawn E. Chase             "Live like you'll die tomorrow,
>SuperC@Matt.KSU.Edu         die knowing you'll live forever."
>aka Tha Hood of Good        -Rich Mullins 'Live Right'
>        "No sir, I didnt like it"- Mr. Horse                  

Dude, it DESTROYS the first one! This one is much more musically authentic
and has more musical integrity! It rips!!!

Get it if you haven't got it yet! And if you like stuff in the BRUTAL
vein, get Deracination's CD, "Times of Atrocity", Sacrament, "Haunts of
Violence", and look for new demos by Godhead, Arbitrage and Final
Judgement, and the new Living Sacrifice...

Broke yet? :-)

Phil

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From: sci40027@nusunix1.nus.sg (HO CHOO LIANG)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Michael Card's <The Word>
Date: 26 Sep 92 03:31:51 GMT
Organization: National University of Singapore
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I bought Michael's latest CD in the Ancient Wisdom Series..... called
THE WORD... and I think it's really super.
Not only is the biblical content strong, it also shows great music
arrangement...something that should not be missed.
Keep up the good work Mike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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From: salaris@niblick.ecn.purdue.edu (Rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrabbits)
Subject: Re: Looking for Soundgarden-style Christian Band
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 14:41:35 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.195134.11500@unislc.uucp>, merk@unislc.uucp (John Merk) writes:
> I'm wondering if there are any Christian bands yet with the
> "Seattle Sound", ie. grunge?
> 
John,

Check out a band called "Die Happy".  They have just one album out,
but they are what I would consider a Soundgarden clone.


--
Steven C. Salaris                We're...a lot more dangerous than 2 Live Crew
salaris@carcs1.wustl.edu         and their stupid use of foul language because
				 we have ideas.  We have a philosophy.
					      Geoff Tate -- Queensryche
From: crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Legality of copying individual songs
Date: 30 Sep 92 18:29:53 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Sep30.174822.27665@cbnews.cb.att.com> ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman) writes:


>I play DJ in my head all the
>time... For some perverse reason I love putting these tapes together, and I
>often lend them to people I know for their perverse listening pleasure.
>Occasionally I even give them away.  And you know what?  I find that
>my friends often run out and buy the music found on the sampler tapes.
>I don't know if my experience is typical, but I've found that record
>companies and recording artists actually make *more* money because
>I've pillaged a song from one of their albums.  

Ditto on all counts.

I'd love to know what's on that angel tape.

  



-- 
Lauren Crawford  //  crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu
From: gray4033@iscsvax.uni.edu (Neal Gray)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Giant
Date: 1 Oct 92 13:47:11 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <9227511.11239@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU>, asm@ee.mu.OZ.AU (andrew scott
 malone) writes:
> In article <1992Sep30.183910.27780@pony.Ingres.COM> paiz@Ingres.COM (A 
>Rock-n-Roller, Spiritual, give me any day...) writes:
>>it would have to be pretty popular, since I heard it in Latin America
>>and only very popular songs get played.*
> 
> The song was called "I'll see you in my dreams", from 'Last of the Runaways'.
> 
> Must have been _really_ popular, 'cause it even got played a lot here in
>   Australia!
> 
>>Also, if someone could comment on other records by Giant, i'd appreciate it
>>too.
> 
> Afraid I haven't been able to find a copy of their second release. ('Time
>   to Burn'?)
> There were a couple of reviews of it in r.m.c many months ago.
there was one review actually, and I wrote it (trying not to boast)
> 
> 
> Andrew
> asm@ee.mu.oz.au
> =B>
Okay, here's the scoop on giant.  There was three major singles released from
Giant's first album.  The first was "I'm a believer", Then "I'll See You.." 
which got MAJOR airplay on MTV (I saw it once or twice), and also "It Takes
Two" which was edited due to the long solo :-(.  Their latest (april release)
is _Time to Burn_ and it is a must have for any type of Arena Rock fan.  Only
two singles have surfaced "Chained" and "Stay"(my favorite).  The album is on
Epic records FYI, and the order number is ET48509 ;-), so order it or
something.

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From: pmadden@samson.cc.nd.edu (patrick madden)
Subject: Re: The Awful Truth question
Reply-To: pmadden@samson.cc.nd.edu (patrick madden)
Organization: Univ. of Notre Dame
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:54:28 GMT

In article <92275.202239EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu>, EMW107@psuvm.psu.edu (Young Indy) writes:
|> 
|>   Well, I finally called up the CD store around Penn State and asked if they
|> had The Awful Truth in stock. Of course not...good bands aren't on the shelf
|> when you want them! Right? Anyway, I ordered the CD so it should be here by
|> next week, but a good review by other Awful Truth fans would be great. I'd
|> like to hear about different aspects about the band....
|>                                  any and all information will be
|>                                  greatly appreciated. Thanks...
|> 
|>                                      -Ed
|> 

Ed,
I hate to tell you, but I really don't think you will get that Awful Truth cd in ever.  It has 
been out of print for a while now and even though some record stores think they can
order it, they find out they can't.  I have tried before.  But, there were rumors of the
album being re-released and maybe that has happened.  What label was it on?
Pat

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In rec.music.christian, ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman) writes:

>                                                      ...Once upon a time 
> a guy who looked like a pit bull could sing "Why should the devil have all 
> the good music?" and Christians would actually listen.  But those days are 
> long past.  It simply won't play on MTV or Regis and Kathy Lee.  And it 
> won't play at the Crystal Cathedral either.  The primary goals of 
> Christianity are to be materially successful, to be happy and blessed, 
> and to leave a good looking corpse.  I think Smitty's got his priorities 
> straight.

Even read through my andy's-being-sarcastic (tm) filter ;-) I think you are
overstating it a bit. I can think of several less-than-amy-grant-gorgeous CCM 
artists who are doing rather well by just making (good?) music. Examples:

Rich Mullins
Charlie Peacock
Sandi Patti
Julie Miller
Ashley Cleveland
Scott Wesley Brown   <<< what a hunk!!!
(the late) Mark Heard
Margaret Becker      <<< OK, she's not exactly UGLY, but...

Any other nominations???

> 
> Just be thankful he isn't wearing dark sunglasses when he sings.  
>

Amen. When D&K (and backup choir) did it on a video, I wanted to hurl!!!

But I think Susan Ashton makes good music in spite of her looks ;-)

Bob (I still listen to Stormin' Norman, zit-scars and all;-) Miller
rhm@hpfirhm.fc.hp.com
  
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From: tll6551@sigma.tamu.edu (Scholar and Fool)
Subject: Re: Metallica
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Fool's Gold Enterprises
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 16:50:00 GMT

gt6851a@prism.gatech.EDU (Brian King) writes...
>>>>I like Metallica. Now, I'm a registered Republican, besides the fact
>>>>that I'm a Christian, so I don't agree with their views politically or
>>>>morally.
>>>Just curious...  What does being a Republican have to do with disliking
>>>Metallica's moral standpoint?
>>This does NOT imply that Repub. = DisagreePolitically
>>or that Xian = DiagreeMorally.
>On strictly logical grounds, no it does not. However, in giving the original
>poster the benefit of the doubt, I would infer this. Unless I was aware of
>him/her having a past history of confusing his/her sense of morality with
>his/her sense of politics,

Ok....whether people like it or not, in today's society the Republican party
is typically associated with both conservative values politically and morally.
When someone says "I'm a Republican" that can be taken to mean that they are
conservative in both respects...ie, that they would disagree both politically
and morally with what they considered liberal, politically or morally. And of
course, as most generalizations/stereotypes, there are certainly exceptions to
this rule. So don't gripe to me about it.
   Of course, this is probably more of a Southern thing than other areas, so 
the direct associate of Republican = conservative politically and morally   
might be lost somewhere along the line.
   Now, you may be saying to yourself right now that this post o' mine has
nothing to do with the current thread, or you may start trying to use some
of that logic mumbo-jumbo on me, but that's ok. I don't care too much about
trying to define everyone logically, I'd rather see them as they really are.

>I hope it's not more of this "liberal media" crap...

Well, you know, you don't have to call the media "liberal" but I think that
last word defines a good portion of it.  It's good, it's bad, and it tends
to jump on the band wagon and tell a one-sided story. But I don't want to  
start a media thread on r.m.c unless it relates to how Christian musicians
are treated in the media, or some such topical discussion.

>Thought for the Day: "A soft answer turneth away wrath."

Another one: "An attacking reply causes much riotous laughter."

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Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 09:03:28 EDT
From: <GPS100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: REQ: "I'll Will Be Here" Music - Stephen C. Chapman

Hi I was wondering if anyone has or knows where I can get the music to this
song???  The local Christian book store does not carry any music.  I was
planing o n playing it for my girlfriend when I propose to her because it
says everythingthat I want to say.  Please help....  Send the music to my
Email address if youcan.  If not please direct me to somewhere I can get it.
Thanks in advance.  Again, please send all replies to Email address above.
Guy Starsnic
Penn State University
Penn State University
From: easteee@wkuvx1.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Intro to "From Once Was" by Deliverance
Date: 1 Oct 92 08:10:55 CDT
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <17699@ucdavis.ucdavis.edu>, cs40f003@hamlet.ucdavis.edu writes:
> 
> I must say that the latest Deliverance (Stay of Execution) 
> is totally awesome and in my opinion is their best effort
> yet. 

I totally agree with you.. There is not much, if anything, out in the
music world that tops this album.  You know God had a hand in that
one!!
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From: yorrick@leland.Stanford.EDU (Gregory Lincicome)
Subject: Re: Michael Card's guitar playing
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 18:31:33 GMT

In article <107410208@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> rhm@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Miller) writes:
>In rec.music.christian, jmrg9881@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Jon Reid) writes:
>
>I wonder if that's why 90% of his songs seem to be in A minor ... maybe 
>that's the only "easy" key upside down....
>
>"Scandalon" has three Am songs in a row! ("gimme another key, Mike, please...,
>please....AAAAARGHHHHHHHHH!")

I thought one of the best parts of Michael Card's work is the thematic nature
of his albums.  It might be that _Scandalon_ has all its songs in related 
keys because of this; it is meant to be taken as a whole.  There's a number
of songs in triple meters on the album too, lots of switching between triple
and double meters.  I think that takes a lot of planning--I have a lot of
respect for anyone that can organize a thematic album, as Margaret Becker's
seem to be...anyone that can do two trilogies is amazing.

Of course, if ALL his albums are in Am...  hmm....

Forever in His Care,

	greg


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Subject: Re: is a certain type of music bad?
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 6 Oct 92 21:47:20 EST
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caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White) writes:
> jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) writes:
> >caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White) writes:
> >> ajw@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.j.whitman) writes:
> >> >caw@gtech.com (Christopher A. White) writes:
> >> >>jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner) 
> >> >>writes:
> >> >>>
> >> >>>jason "next they'll be saying there's no such thing as free 
> >> >>>will" steiner
> >> >>
> >> >>Free will is largely overrated.
> >> >
> >> >Yeah?  Well, I think God is forcing me to ignore your opinion.  
> >> 
> >> Quite possibly, the question is, though, is he simply honoring 
> >> your  desire to ignore my opinion?
> >
> >and if he is? it's still my desire.
> 
> Ah, but free will aonly lets you desire, it doesn't let you *do*. 
> Hence, it is overrated, not non-existant.

and if God is letting me do as i please i have both desire and action.
it's all moot anyway, 'cause even if we don't have free will it
-looks- like we do.

fairly analagous to the "This might all be a hallucination. But I might
as well act like it's real, 'cause it could be, and if it's not, I
can't tell the difference."

jason "You can and you can't, you will and you won't, you're damned 
       if you do, and damned if you don't." steiner

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From: c60c-2gy@web-3f.berkeley.edu ()
Subject: Amy Grant--Friends In Motion
Originator: c60c-2gy@web-3f.berkeley.edu
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:18:27 GMT

Hello All,

Just a brief message.  I will probably be starting up the Amy Grant mailing
list, Friends in Motion, soon.  If you are interested in joining, just send
email to this address or dyoshi@ocf.berkeley.edu
Please include your name and preferred mailing address.  Thanks.

-David
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From: jlaplant@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John R Laplante)
Subject: Re: Is a certain type of music bad?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 14:01:34 GMT

In article <1OCT199209045438@phobos.ucc.umass.edu> s9877751@phobos.ucc.umass.edu (s9877751) writes:
>In article <FBVyRB5w164w@sys6626.bison.mb.ca>, titan@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Titanium Knight) writes...
>>Is there anything wrong with a certain type of music?  What I mean is, 
>>I've read a book that says certain music (extreme noises, distortion,
>>etc.) is dangerous to listen to.  Now I know there are lots of Christian 
>

> Music is music, and if certain narrow-minded folks think
>otherwise, then I fell sorry for them.  No type of music is DANGEROUS to listen
>to.  So, go ahead, and listen to what you want to listen to.  That's just
>my opinion, but to me it makes a great deal of sense.
>

 And old controversy. My point, however, is the words "narrow-minded folks."
 Being narrow-mind isn't _always_ a bad thing -- e.g. God is very
 "narrow minded" on sin -- he doesn't like it. Jesus is very "narrow
 minded" (at least according to evangelical belief) when he said 
 "_I_ am the way, the truth and the life, No one comes to the father
  but by me." So narrow-mindedness is (IMHO) not _always_ a bad thing. In
 fact, sometimes it's commanded! "Be holy, for I am holy." (I Peter ?:?)

 So please, answer the question that the person asked, but do it with logic,
 and WHY you think that any kind of music is permissible. Merely saying
 "people who think that there's something wrong with a certain kind of
 music are narrow-mind" is unhelpful and expresses lazy thinking.  
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jrl+@osu.edu                        political analysis done while you wait

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From: pearsodc@rosevc.rose-hulman.edu
Subject: <None>
Organization: Rose-Hulman Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 21:20:42 GMT

Does anybody have the words to the new Extreme single?  I think it's called
"Make Love Not War" or something like that...I know what I think they're
saying, I know what I hope they're saying, I'm just not sure EXACTLY what
they're saying...if anyone could make with these lyrics I sure would
appreciate...

clueless chuck
PearsoDC@NeXTWork.Rose-Hulman.Edu
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From: graikund@jupiter.newcastle.edu.au (Gitesh Raikundalia)
Subject: "Rebellion" lyrics
Organization: Uni of Newcastle, Australia
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 11:28:13 GMT

Hello fellow Christians,
	
	Does anybody out there know the lyrics to Sacred Warrior's 
"Rebellion" song? 

							Thanks in advance,	
								Gitesh
From: noel@crs.cl.msu.edu (Noel Estabrook)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: Michael Card Concert Review (was Re: Card/Keaggy Tix for Sale)
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:54:21 GMT
Reply-To: noel@crs.cl.msu.edu.UUCP (Noel Estabrook)
Organization: Michigan State University

In article <19817@ector.cs.purdue.edu> gritter@cs.purdue.EDU (Carl R. Gritter) writes:
>I went to the Michael Card Concert in Indy (actually Carmel, IN) last
>Friday night and was disappointed to find out that Phil Keaggy was not
>there.  Apparently Keaggy will not be there for every show on this
>tour, so if this is the reason you are going, be sure to find out the
>specifics at your particular concert.

Was Phil Keaggy's appearance actually stamped on your ticket, etc?  I 
have asked and been assured he is going to be at this one. 

Noel Estabrook          |       Let us not merely do that which is our
noel@crs.cl.msu.edu   __|__	RIGHT, rather, let us desire to do that
Educational Technology  |	which IS right - Me
Michigan State Univ.    |				Romans 12:2
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Educational Technology  |	which IS right - Me
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From: meo@austin.ibm.com (Miles Bob)
Newsgroups: rec.music.christian
Subject: Re: One Bad Pig
Date: 3 Oct 92 00:57:46 GMT
Reply-To: meo@austin.ibm.com (Miles Bob)
Organization: IBM AWD

luked@columbia.dsu.edu (Dan Luke) writes:
| So are there any Pig fans out there.  If so, has anyone heard about their 
| next album?
| 
| I heard they were on a limited tour schedule, does that mean they aren't 
| going to do as many albums?

According to Kosher and 2check, they are seriously considering where
they go from here.  One of them lives in Nashville now, and two of
them are recent daddies.  They want prayer.  They are definitely on
a limited tour schedule (I post them as I get them).  There may not
be another Pig album - at this point nobody knows.

-Miles

They said this at their concert here last month.  I told them about
the net, and they keep me posted on concerts so we can help spread
the word.
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From: jblackwo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (J P Blackwood)
Subject: Re: New Amy album?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 21:57:56 GMT

Could On and On be from her new Christmas Album??

Love me tender is the only other single I know of.


J.P.
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From: tothmd@ucunix.san.uc.edu (Michael David Toth)
Subject: Re: Looking for Soundgarden-style Christian Band
Organization: University of Cincinnati
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 03:21:39 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.195134.11500@unislc.uucp> merk@unislc.uucp (John Merk) writes:
>I'm wondering if there are any Christian bands yet with the
>"Seattle Sound", ie. grunge?
>
>John
>
Hmm.  Some essential listening suggestions:

Breakfast With Amy and a couple bands with members of BWA, Fluffy &
Plague of Ethyls.  Fluffy's new album (which should be unrecognizable to
anyone as Fluffy who heard their first) entitled "Go, Fluffy, Go!" is
extremely Nirvana-esque.  Plague of Ethyls, Amy's Caryn Colbert's
post-punk grunge girl band (with the Choir's Steve Hindalong on drums)
is kind of in the Sonic Youth vein.  All of the above have a very odd,
sometimes very subtle sense of humor that undercuts them.

Although I wouldn't go so far as to call it "grunge," you may also find
the new L.S.Underground, _The Grape Prophet_ to be to your liking. 

All of the above on Blonde Vinyl Records and available through Christian
outlets.  If they don't have 'em, ask them to order it for you.

Michael.


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From: jlaplant@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John R Laplante)
Subject: Re: Is a certain type of music bad?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 02:41:34 GMT

In article <1OCT199214380405@sigma.tamu.edu> tll6551@sigma.tamu.edu (Scholar and Fool) writes:
>titan@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Titanium Knight) writes...
>>Is there anything wrong with a certain type of music?  What I mean is, 
>>I've read a book that says certain music (extreme noises, distortion,
>>etc.) is dangerous to listen to.  Now I know there are lots of Christian 
>>thrash bands, and even some industrial and techno.  Is it bad?  
>
>I don't think that any music is inherently evil in and of itself. What makes
>the final product "evil" is the input of the persons who create the music...

  [the rest of a reasonably useful post deleted]

  Finally! An honest answer to an honest question.


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