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From: westphal@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Dorothy Westphal)
Subject: re: various 
Organization: Lockheed Missiles and Space Co.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 92 15:05:05 GMT

This is posted for marina salume, who cannot post to this group:

Respond to Marina.Salume@corp.sun.com

>Ob. sewing question:   is the fabric offered in quilt catalogs for 
>$7-9/yard really that much better than what I can get on sale for 
>$3/yard at home?  I realize that the selection is better and you're 
>paying for convenience, but is the quality better?

Yes. Some fabric manufacturers actually print the same design on two
different quality fabrics. The cheaper stuff has a lot of sizing in it,
feels stiffer and is a lot harder to sew. Sometimes the dyes will fade
more quickly, too. The best way to learn the difference is to find a 
store that sells the good stuff and feel it. (and try to get it on sale,
for maybe $5 a yard :-) But be careful, ince you use it you'll be 
hooked!

*Some years ago, in a different life, I saw a design for an airplane
*quilt block in a quilt book.  But this was a long, long time ago,
*maybe 15 years.

Many airplane block patterns were created in the 1930's, when airplanes
were high tech. Any historical book of quilt block patterns should have
several.

#I bought a secondhand sewing machine for my girlfriend. Unfortunately
#there was no manual with it. The machine is a Viking (that's the brand
#name for Husqvarna in the UK) 6430. Has anybody an idea to where I would
#be able to find (order, buy, copy, ...) the manual for this machine?

Try calling the nearest Viking Husqvarna dealer. If they don't have it on
hand, they should be able to tell you how to order it.

%A friend of mine has taken up quilting.  Does anyone know where to buy
%a rectangular quilting frame?  I think I saw one in a catalog about a
%year ago, but I can't find the reference now.  I'd appreciate your help.

Get your hands on an issue of Quilters Newsletter, there are usually ads
for four or more different quilting frames. Send for the literature and
compare them. These are all superior to the cheapie quilt frames that you'll
find in some mail order catalogs like Sears, etc. prices range widely,
depnding on the quality of the workmanship. There are even one or two that
sell kits of the smaller parts, you supply the long side rails, which are
very expensive to ship. (your local library may carry QN, it's difficult to
find on the newstand).

But ask your friend first, she may not want a big floor frame if she is
working alone. Most solo quilters use a large wooden lap hoop or a PVC (plastic)
rectangular "frame", since it can be carried around the house easily and
doesn't take a lot of floor space. Ads for these items are also in most
issues of QN (and a lot of other quilting magazines too.) 

--marina
-- 
Dorothy Westphal, Sunnyvale, Calif. % Just when things are going your way...%
westphal@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com   %               they get even better!   %
From: lmfcarne@neumann.uwaterloo.ca (Luiza Carneiro)
Subject: Re: Sewing on Velvet
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 19:31:41 GMT

I would add to the list to check the "direction" of the velvet.
If you "smooth" with your hands the velvet, you are going to see
that in one direction it is shiny and in the other is  "opaque".
Be sure to cut all the pieces of the pattern using the same
direction.
Hope this help...

Luiza

P.S. It was hard to find the words in English, so if you do not 
understand I can try to explain better. Feel free to email me.
From: nola@cats.ucsc.edu (Nola Van Vugt)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Holiday dresses
Date: 10 Nov 1992 23:20:20 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <Nov.9.16.50.17.1992.23168@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>Since I have two main festive occasions during the upcoming holidays,
>I want to make a dress I can wear to both.
>
>The problem is that they are not exactly similar functions. :-)
>often made with detachable or separate bodices.  What if I make
>a lined bodice out of the green velvet, and make two skirts:  one square
>dance length (at the knee) with ruffles and a simple skirt in a tea length?
>Has anyone tried making a separate skirt and bodice?  I'm having trouble
>visualizing how I keep the dress together.  Clearly the bodice comes down
>over the waistband of the skirt, but should it be secured with snaps or

Well, back in the olden days, we used to call that a "two-piece dress"
or, more crudely, a "matching skirt and blouse".  In this case the
bodice is cut longer and is worn under the skirt half with a wide sash
to cover the "interface".
 I don't think the fact that the outfit is in 2 pieces makes it too
casual, considering the fabrics being used--I'm sure I've seen some
hot designer originals that were two pieces.

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From: judiths@eliot.uucp (Judith Speck)
Subject: Biking Clothes (was Re: Lycra fabric outlet in SF??)
Reply-To: judiths@usisun.UUCP (Judith Speck)
Organization: UNITECH Software, Inc., Reston, VA
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 20:44:53 GMT


 Speaking of lycra,  I'm trying to find patterns for cycling shorts
and racing jerseys, as well as a source for CoolMax and lycra fabrics.
The only pattern I have seen is by Kwik Sew, and the sizes are completely
off.  They had the usual C-cup model wearing it, with her Barbie doll
figure.  Sorry folks, real athletes don't have Barbie boobies--they
have a low body fat percentage, and that means the boobs are long gone.
Also, athletic women have broader shoulders, which from the picture
and other body measurements are not going to be accounted for either.
These were the body measurements for the shorts/jersey size small:
Chest 34-35.5"
Waist 24-26"
Hips  35.5-37"

These people need to watch the Olympics!  I doubt there were many
female athletes who have a 10" difference between their chest and
waist!  Most were pretty surf-board like!  

If the pattern company is going to make patterns for athletic wear, 
why don't they size it to fit athletes?  In altering the pattern, I 
would need to broaden the shoulders (to allow for larger biceps), 
and make a smaller hip/waist proportion  (they don't have fat on 
their hips) and a smaller chest/waist proportion to allow for no
chest fat, too.  I'm simply not that experienced!  My last project
was a Star Trek (TNG) uniform for Halloween, and I found it much
easier to alter the men's size 34 to fit me than to try to correct
the misses Barbie doll pattern.  There was no way I could get the 
shoulders and waist to fit otherwise.

Any suggestions? (BTW, I didn't see any athletic wear in BURDA)

Judith
The self-appointed president of the newly-created Society For Realistic Women
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Thursday, 5 Nov 1992 13:23:33 MST
From: <ICMXV@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject:    RE: Quilt Block Exch/Answer/Oops!

Oops!  The correct E-mail for Anne Gockel is
alg@cs.cornell.edu

Sorry!!!
From: stepan@natinst.com (Stepan Riha)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Pattern for "dance tails" and other questions
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:55:10 GMT
Organization: National Instruments, Austin, TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: falcon.natinst.com

I'm rather new to sewing having become interested while making an Elvis
costume for Halloween.  I'm sure that somebody in this group will be able to
help me with the following.

1) I'm trying to find a pattern for a tail suit to be used for ballroom
dancing.  The main difference between a formal suit and a dance suit,
as far as I can tell, is the way the shoulders are sewn.  In a dance
suit the shoulders don't raise when you lift your arms.
I've been told that I should be able to get a pattern from a tailor shop that
makes clothing for competitive ballroom dancing.  Apparently these shops are
located mostly in Great Britain.  Does anybody know how I would go about
getting in touch with somebody that could sell me a pattern?  Are there
catalogues or do you send them measurements or what?
BTW, I'm not planing to sew this myself (an aunt is a seemstress...)

2) I've been looking for white pique (sp?) fabric.  It's the sort used in
some formal vests and bow ties.  None of the local fabric stores cary it.
Could I get it through mail order? From whom?

3) I've been browsing through pattern catalogues at fabric stores and found
that only about 5% of all patterns are for men.  Are there catalogues that have
a greater selection of male patterns?

Thanks in advance for any help.

	   - Stepan


-- 
   Stepan Riha -- stepan@natinst.com
From: ljensen@ferris.cray.com (Laura Jensen)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: San Francisco
Keywords: _Retail Therapy_
Date: 5 Nov 92 15:53:40 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Cray Research, Inc.

(soundtrack: Billie Holiday singing "Too marvelous for Words")

Britex is between Geary Street and Maiden Lane.  While you're there,
make sure to visit the Circle Gallery (it may not be called that now)
on Maiden Lane.  The gallery was designed by Frank Lloyd Wright, and
it's a good space. (End of architectural plug.)  Britex has _beautiful_
notions, they may still have the iridescent silk organza ribbon.

Stonemountain and Daughter _is_ good, some of my favorite aged 
fabrics came from there!  They buy bolt ends from the fashion 
industry, so it's a boutique fabric store rather than a fabric
supermarket.  If you're in the East Bay, check out Poppy Fabrics
in Oakland.  Also Kasuri Dyeworks on Shattuck in Berkeley for
Japanese fabrics.  And _Of Course_ Straw Into Gold on San Pablo
in Berkeley for yarns and fibers and books and spinning wheels and
dyestuffs and and and!  If you have a morning and a car, you could
drive to Los Altos to visit Exotic Silks! (Pause to catch breath)

One other thing - the food in the Bay Area is as good as the 
fabric stores!  Have a wonderful time-
   - Laura
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From: harmet@bambi.cecer.army.mil (Laura Harmet)
Subject: sequin material
Organization: None
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:28:05 GMT

I have a desire to make a camisole for the Christmas party going season.  I
would like to make it out of a sequined material, preferably dark green or 
black.  The problem is, in central Illinois there are very few fabric stores
that carry this material.  They all seem to have that really awful imitation
sequined material, where they are glued on instead of sewn on.  I would 
rather make the camisole out of lace than to subject my sewing machine to 
that stuff.  Does anyone know of a good mail order place for this material?
Someplace that I can get samples from first before I order, and in a hurry too.
By the time I decide and get the stuff ordered, the party season will be
upon me.

Laura

P.S. I could just kick myself.  I was in Washington D.C. in August and had a 
chance to visit G-Street Fabrics where they had so much to choose from.  I 
wished I would have bought some then.  But, who wants to think about Christmas
in August?!  It was heaven though.
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: lise@kepler.uucp (80734-romanov)
Subject: Re: Holiday dresses
Reply-To: er@bellcore.com (80734-romanov,elisabeth)
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 92 16:04:10 GMT

In article <Nov.9.16.50.17.1992.23168@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>Since I have two main festive occasions during the upcoming holidays,
>I want to make a dress I can wear to both.
>
>The problem is that they are not exactly similar functions. :-)
>In fact, one is a square dance festival, and the other a company
>party.  I can just see me in my petticoat at the company bash!
>
> 
Take a look at the Evening Wear patterns for the holidays--there are some
with sophisticated cuts *and* full skirts, that you could wear to both events.
(Butterick 5944 comes to mind--it has a fullish skirt and a fitted, off
shoulder bodice, and a petticoat, but isn't at all "country"--I've thought
about using the pattern myself for a variety of events, I'm a contra dancer
with other stuff to do.

Lots of luck, hope this helps.
Lise
oscar.bellcore.com
From: mcm@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: What's so special about cotton....?
Date: 11 Nov 92 14:48:53 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

In article <1992Oct30.110615.8280@iscsvax.uni.edu>, klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>> I think that the Vermont Country Store catalog carries cotton tights.
>> It wouldn't look like nylons, but might be a solution.
> 
> "Cotton tights" are made with lycra or nylon fiber-- otherwise they develop
> into wrinkly tubes that sag around ankles and knees.  I saw 100% lambswool
> tights in Britain, but even those had elastic waistbands and a small amount
> of nylon in the toes and heels for wear reinforcement.
> 
> WinterSilks still carries real silk hose (Middleton, Wisc.) -- they have
> an 800 #, but I don't have it or the address handy.  But these are
> stockings, not panty hose.
> 
> I'm very sensitive to formaldehyde and formalin solutions, but I've
> never had any reaction to wool, silk, or nylon after a couple of washings.
> 
> Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI

You might also try Garnet Hill - a quality cottons catalog.  I think they carry
both coton and wool tights.  The problem is that without a slip the tights and
the skirt get stuck on each other and walking gets messy.  You need something
slick in between, but it sould not be toughing your skin so it might be okay.
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: polowin@chem.queensu.ca (Joel Polowin)
Subject: Re: I'm a Bo-oo-zo and I'm okay..
Organization: Dept. of Chemistry, Queen's University
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:05:00 GMT

In article <1992Nov10.231949.14717@cc.uow.edu.au> karenb@cc.uow.edu.au (Karen  Barrett) writes:
>
>>department"?  Or are you so egocentric that you believe that you
>>can do everything perfectly yourself, if only you had better computers?
>>That is what you are asking for;  for the power to wield the creativity
>>and talents of others as if they were your own, and to eliminate the
>>need for others.  To be able to create in a self-absorbed vacuum, things
>
>Perhaps I have missed the point but isn't that why we're all here?  Don't
>we want to be able to do things ourselves, with or without the aid of
>varying degrees of technology, rather than purchasing items (hand-made or
>mass-produced) made by someone else?  Certainly, for myself, if I can do
>all parts of a project myself, with or without the aid of technology,
>rather than using a professional for any part of it, it increases my
>satisfaction with the finished item.

I believe that I was the last person Mary Otto referred to as a "bozo",
when I put out a request for info about scanned floss colours for the
scanned-photo-to-stitch-pattern software that I was writing (and have been
delayed on, but am now almost finished).  Text as follows...

>>So, okay, my Bozo alarm is going off big time right about now.  It
>>would take a lot of work, time, and difficult to find equipment to get
>>an RGB version of the color charts, so he is asking us to do it for him.
>>
>>Gee.  I guess then we will be rewarded by being able to do that which is
>>beneath him, to make something from his patterns.

... i.e. 'bozo-ing' not because of the automation of the procedure but
because she somehow read a request for info as a request that people do
my work for me.  There followed repeated accusations that I was going to
violate artists' rights by converting other people's photographs to patterns,
and selling them -- despite repeated statements that I had no such interests.

And, of course, the usual flaming about how I was degrading her art form.

All that my conversion software will do is replace the grunt-work with
graph paper and so forth that people have to do anyway.  If someone wants
a pattern as an Art Piece in and of itself, s/he can do that; even then,
my software will aid in creating a pattern from scratch, and allow it to
be given a professional, laser-printed finish.  If someone just wants to
have a pattern made from a photo -- how many people just BUY patterns,
and find sufficient Art in the stitching? -- my software will make that
possible.

Mary Otto is almost the stereotypical Pretentious Artist -- has to be done
HER way, anything else is an insult to the Artist.  I suppose she doesn't
own a camera (degrading to oil painters), musical reproduction equipment
(think of all the musicians who can't earn a living, because people would
rather stay home and listen to a CD!), or video stuff (pity the actors,
losing out to TV and movies on VCR).

*shrug*  I'm pleased that the overwhelming response to her comments has
been negative.
From: koo@tcville.HAC.COM (Frances Koo)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: How to Make an Eight-Pointed Star Quilt Block
Keywords: quilting
Date: 11 Nov 92 20:04:21 GMT
Reply-To: koo@tcville.HAC.COM (Frances Koo)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Co., El Segundo, CA

Thanks for all the tips and advice about quilting and applique!

Someone recently asked me about how to make a neat 8-pointed star, but
I lost the address and the thread when I moved offices this week.

Anyway, here is my reference on how to make a nice 8-pointed star that lies
flat.  There are also tips in there for other difficult quilting blocks.
Check it out!

    "Quilting Shortcuts", by Maggie Malone, Sterling Publishing Co., 1986
    
Happy quilting!

    Frances (koo@tcville.hac.com)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: harmet@bambi.cecer.army.mil (Laura Harmet)
Subject: Re: Sewing machine recommendatiosn
Organization: None
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 17:33:02 GMT

In article <guido.721409158@sparc-3>, guido@blink.att.com (Guido Bertocci) writes:
> 
> I am looking for recommendations for quality sewing machines.
> The primary candidate at this time is the Bernina 1530.  Any pros or
> cons would be appreciated as well as alternate recommendations.
> 
> If anyone has any ideas on what a good price would be as well
> as either mail order places or stores in New Jersey.  Thanks.
> 
> 
My recommendation isn't for any machine in particular, although I am 
parial to my Elna.  I say look at the dealer.  I mean, what good is a
$2000-$3000 machine if you don't know all of it's capabilities.  And who
best to show you all of its capabilities than the dealer.  I'm not just
talking about the demonstration they give you when you go looking at new
machines.  You won't remember half of the things they show you.  Over time
you will want to keep returning to the dealer where you bought the machine
for new tips and methods of use.  That's why you may want to ask the dealer
if they have classes throughout the year.  In my case, when I bought my
machine, you become a member of the Elna club.  Every other month they have
a project which demonstrates a feature of the machine, like sewing with
decorative threads in the bobbin, or fancy hem stitching. 

There are so many quality sewing machines on the market nowadays, and the
Bernina 1530 is one of them.  But don't just buy a quality machine, buy a
quality dealer too.

Laura
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Re: Holiday dresses
From: emac@endor.uucp (Elizabeth MacKenzie)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 18:48:29 GMT
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

Why not follow a current ready to wear trend and make a body-suit?
Take your bodice pattern, and extend it about 2 inches, and then
make a stretchy bottom that snaps at the crotch.  You should probably
make up a sample of this so that you figure out how much to extend and
how much knit fabric to add.  This way, your skirt could move around,
you would have the bodice that you want, and you wouldn't have to worry
about things going in the wrong direction and exposing things you don't
want exposed.

Beth MacKenzie
From: nancyh@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Nancy Hill)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Sewing on Velvet
Date: 5 Nov 92 17:31:58 GMT
Organization: Tektronix Inc., Beaverton, Or.

I have a bridesmaid dress I need to make and the bodice is
out of velvet.  Now, I've heard that sewing on velvet takes
an expert and I've become properly intimidated.

Any experience out there?  Any hints?  Or am I being
bamboozled?

Nancy
Newsgroups: alt.sewing,alt.religion.kibology
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: What makes a Bozo alarm go off
Organization: Two rooms filled with typography, in downtown Boston
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:42:06 GMT

In article <1992Nov4.211849.478@adobe.com> riggle@adobe.com (Kathleen Riggle) writes:
>This is from Marina (Marina.Salume@Corp.Sun.COM); she seems to have
>lost posting access for now and asked me to post this.
>-------------------------------
>How do you know this "bozo" isn't an artist who designs fonts on the
>computer?  (most do, nowadays). 

Some of us type designers even *admit* to being bozos.  Needless to say,
I don't say that on my business card.  But hey, I admit it, I'm a bozo.

(I won't admit liking Biffo Script, though.  I'm not that bozotic.)

							-- K.

Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: eldridge@tachyn.enet.dec.com (Kathi Eldridge)
Subject: Re: Looking for good prices on Pfaff sewing machines...
Reply-To: eldridge@tachyn.enet.dec.com (Kathi Eldridge)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Nashua, NH
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:45:17 GMT



	FYI - Neverett's in Nashua does not display Pfaff machines but
	will order one for you if that is what you want.  I don't remember
	the reasons for them not carring them, except that they feel that
	Bernina is superior.  The will also "haggle" the price with you.
	I got a great deal on my current Bernina.

	- Kathi
From: gorman@acsu.buffalo.edu (Anne-Marie K. Gorman)
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
Subject: Diaper covers
Date: 6 Nov 92 19:12:48 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UB


In the latest mailing I got from Sew Natural, they advertise a pattern
and supplies for making diaper covers out of supplex nylon.  Has anyone
tried this pattern?  I'd like to use diaper covers--Sophie and Teresa are 
getting very active, so the diaper clips are a big hassle--but I can't
afford the $8 and up that commercial ones cost.  Any experience (about the
ease of use as well as the ease of sewing) would be welcome!

Anne-Marie

-- 
===============================================================================
Anne-Marie K. Gorman          Sophie and Teresa (9 1/2 months old) are walking!
Human factors/ergonomics      Time flies twice as fast when you're having
University at Buffalo         twice as much fun.
Newsgroups: alt.sewing
From: tigger@satyr.Sylvan.COM (Grace Sylvan)
Subject: Re: Holiday Gift Projects
Organization: Sylvan Associates
Distribution: usa
Date: 11 Nov 92 00:05:43

Well, I've done  lots of  sewing for gifts  over  the past few  years,
mostly for the children - things that have been special favorites were
matching outfits for my daughter and one (or more!) of her friends,
matching or coordinating sibling outfits, a coordinating kid/mom
outfit (a shirt for mom, and pants made of the same fabric for the
kid) and snap crotch shirts with long sleeves.

Particularly popular have been items made with cotton velour - I used
to be able to get it on the NY Fabrics back tables, but they've
discontinued the tables, so I have no suggestions for how to get it
(for less than the $14/yd I've seen in the fabric stores).

-- 

Tigger (Grace Sylvan)                Mom of Katherine Yelena, 8/8/89,
tigger@satyr.sylvan.com              Corey 1/31/91; we loved him so,
                                     Robin Gregory born 2/28/92

 "It seems to me that our large goal is to find the ways to help our
 children become humane and strong."
 
              - Dr Haim Ginott quoted by Adele Faber & Elaine Mazlish


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