HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells)
Subject: Re: A new tape
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 92 14:41:04 GMT

olof@enea.se (Olof Bj|rner) writes:

<After all these years a PA tape from a late 1965 concert appears.
<The show was played at the Berkeley Community Theater on December 4, 1965,
<the day after the famous press conference in San Francisco.

I have to disagree that this is a PA tape. It's quite obviously an
audience recording. In fact the audience can be heard commenting on
"Like a Rolling Stone", among others, and the applause has a very
"close" sound to it. One reason to suspect it as a PA tape is the lack
of audience noise and booing. First, audiences were more polite back in
those days. They actually went to listen to the music and not to talk
to their buddies or whistle continuously! Second, reports of audiences
booing are largely legendary, although things of this nature certainly
happened from time to time: Forest Hills '65, Royal Albert Hall '66,
etc. Overall, it seems that 1965 audiences weren't as close-minded as
we usually tend to believe.

<The two big surprises here are of course the electrical It Ain't Me, Babe
<(very good!!) and the new song Long-Distance Operator. It later turned
<up on the Basement Tapes sung by The Band, so this is the first Dylan version
<we get to hear. This early version has five verses, one more than in Lyrics
<and two more than the Basement Tape track and is done in a faster tempo.

Even bigger surprise for me is the fact that the arrangement for "It
Ain't Me Babe" is almost identical to the one performed live in 1974
with the Band! Plus, "Ballad of a Thin Man" is a little more upbeat than
usual and also recalls the version on _Before the Flood_.

Where is the missing acoustic set??

--
                                        John Howells
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                                        howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov
From: blackin@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Michael Blackin )
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Your 5 songs over 5 minutes
Date: 26 Aug 92 04:47:36 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania


Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: farowich@hiwa61.seo.dec.com (Steven A. Farowich)
Subject: Re: Irritating Songs
Keywords: Dylan irritating
Reply-To: farowich@hiwa61.seo.dec.com (Steven A. Farowich)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:00:36 GMT


In article <1992Sep2.212231.5716@gtephx.UUCP>, mccluerj@gtephx.UUCP (John McCluer) writes:
|>
|>Union Sundown off of Infidels has always sent me running toward
|>the NEXT TRACK button on my CD player.  Sort of makes me wish 
|>I had payed the extra twenty bucks for the remote control.

I know these lists are all just personal opinions, so no flame 
here, but I've always thought that this song was fascinating 
(not a term I usually use about a song).  The fact that Dylan 
started as a Woody Guthrie clone, who in term was Mr. Union Man, 
makes this song a complete cirlce for Dylan's career.

--
Steve Farowich
farowich@hiwa61.seo.dec.com
206-562-6422	FAX:562-8603

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From: BUCK@vax.museum.upenn.edu
Subject: Just trying this out ...
Reply-To: BUCK@vax.museum.upenn.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 19:18:28 GMT

I've been told that I might be able to post to rec-music-dylan.  So
am I?

I heard a faint whisper of a rumor of Beacon Theater dates in New 
York City, October 9 through 12.  Not from my usual good source, though.
Can anyone confirm or deny?

Rebecca
buck@vax.museum.upenn.edu
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From: olof@enea.se (Olof Bj|rner)
Subject: There's a tour going on....
Uucp-Path: mcvax!kth!sunic!enea.se!olof
Reply-To: olof@enea.se (Olof Bj|rner)
Organization: Enea Data AB, Sweden
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 19:55:27 GMT


Hey, where is everybody? I can't believe that no one has posted any news 
from the Canadian shows in Toronto & Ottawa!!??

Anyway, here's the set-list from the second show in Toronto, Aug 18:

2 x 2
All Along The Watchtower
Tears Of Rage
Maggie's Farm
Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
I Don't Believe You
Wiggle Wiggle
Little Moses                       (acoustic, solo)
To Ramona                          (acoustic, solo)
Gates Of Eden                      (acoustic w band)
Don't Think Twice, It's All Right  (acoustic w band)
Cat's In The Well
Idiot Wind
Stuck Inside Of Mobile With The Memphis Blues Again
Highway 61 Revisited

Ballad Of A Thin Man
Everything Is Broken
It Ain't Me, Babe                  (acoustic, solo)


It is now confirmed that Dylan will appear at the 30 anniviverasry show
at Madison Square Garden, Oct 16 with Springssteen, Bono, Neil Young,
Joan Baez & others.
___________________________
Olof Bjorner - olof@enea.se
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: jhm@raster.mn.org (Jeff Michaud)
Subject: Orpheum Theater 9/2/92
Summary: The fun never stops...
Keywords: Thin Man
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 05:14:28 GMT

9/2/92
Orpheum Theater
Minneapolis

Everything is broken
Friend of the devil
All along the watchtower   <-- guitarist covers Jimi's solo after 1st verse
Under the red sky
Tangled up in blue
Watching the river flow
Silvio
Little Moses
Boots of Spanish Leather
Hard rain's gonna fall
It's all over now, baby blue
Unbelievable
Simple twist of fate
Ballad of a thin man       <-- this absolutely smoked!
Maggie's farm

What good am I
Highway 61
It ain't me babe

Another hot show from Bob!  His voice was a little ragged tonight, but just
when I thought he might lose it, he'd belt something that blew me away.
The version of Thin Man was *very* inspired.  I was close to the stage,
and felt he had to be singing it to someone in the room.  Silvio was
probably the best of the mpls shows, with Bob playing lead guitar. 
Other highlights: Hard rain, Baby blue, What good am I, and Red Sky.
The steel player played six-string guitar for the first time since 
Saturday.  Opening were the local band Soul Asylum, and Larry Keegan,
a friend of Bob's.  Catch it when you can...

Only one show left :(
-- 
Jeff Michaud                        "Graffiti Man has somethin' to say"
jhm@raster.mn.org                              -- John Trudell
From: Christian Ullsperger <ullsperg@enz.berk.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Irritating Songs
Date: 3 Sep 1992 02:27:35 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley Dept. of Molecular Biology
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Emmet responds to steve:

>Steve> <Lenny Bruce       // I guess this is one people like to
>                         //complain about, but I acutally like it.  I
>                        //am just a sucker for all of Shot of Love
>                       //though. I grant that, "I rode with him\ in a
>                      //taxi once\ Only for a mile and a half \ seems
>                     //like it took a couple of months" is frankly inane.

But wasn't the taxi ride the _reason_ Bob wrote the song?!
From: ramponi@roland.athena.lkg.dec.com (Roland Ramponi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Autographed album
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:20:21 GMT
Reply-To: ramponi@roland.athena.lkg.dec.com (Roland Ramponi)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


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There are about 100 "dealers" in this type of collectable in the USA
that are a ligitimate business, most of the rest are individual
collectors. Of the 100 there are less than 10 that I would personnally
feal comfortable dealing with, one of course would be Sothebys, another
would be Christies...another is a very good friend of mine who runs
a honest and ethical business and trades with the likes of Malcomb Forbes
et. al. in this collectable. I would be very careful about dealing with
any others...its a jungle out there. Is $950 reasonable? Ask yourself
how bad you want it, it may be worth it to you but do not think you
will be able to sell it for a profit as your motivator, for I doubt it.
It is not rare, it is over prices and in 30 years probably will have
little value. Einstein yes, that is a person of international and eternal
fame. Ask yourself what you would pay for a signed album of Guy Lombardo...
Key to value:

	- Content - Einstein talking about relativity in a letter is worth
                    infinately more that a note to a friend about dinner.

	- Place in History - World history, movers and shakers, not todays
                              cult hero, they do not last, your grandchildren
                              may hear about Elvis but how many 10 year olds
                              care who Dylan is?
	- Rarity  - He is still alive and can sign a lot of albums yet, he has
                    signed a lot, and few museums are gobbling up the available
                    supply. Einstein's letters are in libraries and museums
                     there is not much out there for the private collector.

Tell me who the dealer is (Address, Although I think I allready know) and
I will have him fax a shot of the cover and signiture to my friend to 
verify.
From: dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: New volumes of 'Bootleg Series'?
Date: 27 Aug 92 16:00:30 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

maes@prl.philips.nl (Maurice Maes) writes:

>Now *my* record store had Dylan on the "expected soon" list of new albums
>last June! (Now it's removed.) And last year the  "New Releases" list
>announced a Neil Young Box set to be released in the spring of this year...
>I didn't see it.

That announcement is probably referring to the new album, which I have
heard will be out any day now.  I'm sure it will be at the very least
worth listening to.  I would do anything for someone to be able to confirm
this rumor!  But the bootleg series....ah, now that would be an event!

ric
From: michel@netcom.com (Steve Michel)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Orpheum Theater 8/30/92
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:48:18 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

yudel@panix.com (Larry Yudelson) writes:

>What is this "Little Moses" Dylan has been playing recently?

If you haven't heard it, it tells the story of Moses (surprise). I have it
on an old Carter family tape, from about 1929. Bob actually does a faithful
rendition of it.
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: barnes@galileo.ifa.hawaii.edu (Joshua Edward Barnes)
Subject: Re: Irritating Songs
Organization: Institute for Astronomy, Hawaii
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 20:16:22 GMT

In article <1992Sep2.143910.15958@midway.uchicago.edu>
akp1@midway.uchicago.edu writes, among other things:
>
>If Dogs Run Free - Dylan the jazz singer?  Who is that singing in the
>	background, and why does she sound like she's making fun of us for
			^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>	listening to this song?
>
>						-Adam K. Powers



    Humm, you *know* something's happening here, but you don't know
what it is, is that right?

    I like this song, as well as _Winterlude_ (ok, the "this dude"
line's a bit much).  The whole album has a funky, snowed-in feeling
and a lot of looseness in the songs.  Refreshing from time to time.

					Cheers,
						Josh Barnes
					barnes@zeno.ifa.hawaii.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: oml@sirius.sds.no (Ola Martin Lykkja)
Subject: Rainy Day Women #12 & 35
Organization: Statens Datasentral A/S, SDS, Norway
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 07:06:06 GMT


I looked through my records yesterday and I played 'Rainy Day Women #12 & 35'.
Does anyone have an explanation for the title?   It is very hard to
guess the title for the lyrics.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells)
Subject: Re: Irritating Songs
Keywords: Dylan irritating
Organization: NASA Ames Res. Ctr. Mtn Vw CA 94035
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 92 19:17:31 GMT

michel@netcom.com (Steve Michel) writes:

<Well, even though the man has written a lot of great songs, he's also
<written some clunkers. I'm not asking for Bob's _worst_ songs,
<but rather his most irritating. Here's a starter list:
< 
<Baby, Stop Crying
<Lenny Bruce
<Clean-Cut Kid
<Sweetheart Like You
<Is Your Love in Vain
<Do Right To Me Baby
<Don't Fall Apart on Me Tonight

I can agree with some of these. I'll add these:

Gates of Eden (sorry - I've never liked this one)
Emmett Till
Trust Yourself
Man Gave Names To All the Animals
Heart of Mine

--
                                        John Howells
                                        howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov 
                                        howells@earth.arc.nasa.gov
From: olof@enea.se (Olof Bj|rner)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: A new tape
Date: 30 Aug 92 19:56:11 GMT
Reply-To: olof@enea.se (Olof Bj|rner)
Organization: Enea Data AB, Sweden
Uucp-Path: mcvax!kth!sunic!enea.se!olof

After all these years a PA tape from a late 1965 concert appears.
The show was played at the Berkeley Community Theater on December 4, 1965,
the day after the famous press conference in San Francisco.

This is from a period from which we have no live documents at all so this is
most welcome. In fact there is not one single live tape in circulation
between the Forest Hill concert August 28,  and the concert in Westchester
County Center February 5, 1966. Dylan played almost 40 concerts between 
these two dates!

The tape is 45 minutes and contains the electrical set:

	Tombstone Blues
	I Don't Believe You
	Baby Let Me Follow You Down
	Just Like Tom Thumb's Blues
	Long-Distance Operator
	It Ain't Me, Babe
	Ballad Of A Thin Man
	Positively 4th Street
	Like A Rolling Stone

The sound quality is disappointing. This stuff is bound to appear on CD, 
but be warned, this is not the quality we're used to from present day 
recordings.  Although it is supposed to be a PA tape, Dylan is a bit
distant and the sound is quite muddy. This may just be my tape of course,
let's hope there is a better one out there.

The two big surprises here are of course the electrical It Ain't Me, Babe
(very good!!) and the new song Long-Distance Operator. It later turned
up on the Basement Tapes sung by The Band, so this is the first Dylan version
we get to hear. This early version has five verses, one more than in Lyrics
and two more than the Basement Tape track and is done in a faster tempo.

In the acoustic set Dylan premiered another song he talked about at the
press conference the day before: Visions Of Johanna, then known as
Freeze-Out.
___________________________
Olof Bjorner - olof@enea.se
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: georger@utoday.com (George Rothe)
Subject: Dylan Concordance
Organization: CMP Publications
Date: Thu, 03 Sep 92 16:45:23 GMT


Well, I got mine, did you get yours?

Rolling Tomes has finally published the 'Bob Dylan Concordance'...a Weberman
dream come true!  The book does what it's supposed to do.  Of the 300 +
officially published songs, poems and letters, each word (barring commonplace
phonemes like 'it' 'the'...)is listed in alphabetical order, followed by
a set of numbers.  Each number represents a source.  While the book contains
an index which serves as a key to those numbers, the author (Steve Michel)
and/or the publisher had the foresight to include an 'index' card with the book
which is simply a copy of the index.  So, instead of flipping to the back of
the book to see what song is '37' '104' '118', you just whip out your handy
dandy 'index' card and find the answer.

The books introductory chapter explains the methodology of compiling the
information (an application of Hypercard) and the constraints the author 
had to consider in choosing his material.

I think Rolling Tomes has become 'notorious' for choosing peculiar photos of
Dylan to grace their book covers.  This book is no exception!  But they are
always interesting!

All in all, the book is a handy reference.  As I've said, it does what it is
supposed to do.  I've already started using it as a test for myself!  Now,
I can really upgrade my 'snob' rating :-)  But seriously, the book is a must
for research and fun for the collector.

Steve, have I plugged it enough yet?
From: jojw@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (John J. Wood)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Problems FTPing Dlyan Gifs
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:38:35 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester (Rochester, NY)

Steve Lescure's .sig reads...
>"The truth was obscure, too profound and too pure; to live it you have to
>explode."
>            Dylan (Journey Though Dark Heat, from Street Legal, his second
> "strange album" - next to John Wesley Harding, which is the weirdest
> record in rock history)				      ^^^^^^^^

You obviously haven't listened to Syd Barrett, Frank Zappa, Henry Kaiser,
and Captain Beefheart.;-)

ODylanC:  Anyone know the on-sale date of the 10/16 MSG gig? At Ticketbastard?

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From: bloom@buast7.bu.edu (Steve Bloom)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: Irritating Songs
Date: 4 Sep 92 12:24:12 GMT
Organization: Astronomy Department, Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

In article <1992Sep2.131902.25916@riacs.edu> howells@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (John Howells) writes:

><4. Under a Red Sky ("one day the little boy and the little girl got baked
><                     in a pie?"  Bob, Bob, what are you thinking?)
>
>	Another great song. To be irritating, I think a song has to
>	be repitious to the point of wishing it would just be over
>	now. "Under the Red Sky" is too short and too melodic for this.
>
>But everyone to his own opinion! I certainly don't take any offence if
>someone dislikes a favorite of mine. This is all in fun.

I actually think this was one of the better tunes from his last album.
Though, I must admit, that I found that album somewhat irrittating in
general. Lyrics were dumb,even on UTRS, but the guitar was good, and I liked
the vocals. 

I can't say I find anything on Desire or Blood to be irritating,
though I don't like "Lilly, Rosemary, and the Jack of Hearts as much
as quite a few other people do.
                                     Steve
From: ramponi@roland.athena.lkg.dec.com (Roland Ramponi)
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
Subject: Re: SONG LYRICS WANTED
Date: 28 Aug 92 20:53:49 GMT
Reply-To: ramponi@roland.athena.lkg.dec.com (Roland Ramponi)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


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Two options: a music store that sells sheet music, as there are a lot
of books with virtually all of Dylan's music and lyrics.

Book Store: The published and revised "Lyrics and Drawings" which covers
everything up to 1988. However, not all those you request will be there
since some i.e. Long Black Coat, etc. were written in 1990 and 1991.
Newsgroups: rec.music.dylan
From: maes@prl.philips.nl (Maurice Maes)
Subject: Re: New volumes of 'Bootleg Series'?
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 07:58:29 GMT

In article <1992Aug25.174206.11437@u.washington.edu> dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube) writes:
>Please help confirm or disconfirm: friends who know the Dylan news
>practically before it happens are telling me that there is no intent
>to release anymore 'Bootleg Series' cd's.  However, the new releases
>file at ftp cs.uwp.edu, says that volumes 4-7 are coming out in February.
>
>So which is it?  What's the deal?  My Dylan-buddies are climbing the
>walls!

Remember, the new releases file is nothing official.
I asked Brian Davies who was the source of this entry in the list, and he had
heard it from a friend in a record store.
Now *my* record store had Dylan on the "expected soon" list of new albums
last June! (Now it's removed.) And last year the  "New Releases" list
announced a Neil Young Box set to be released in the spring of this year...
I didn't see it.

maurice
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