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From: gary@resumix.portal.com (Gary Lin)
Subject: Re: random passwd generator
Organization: Resumix Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 20:14:37 GMT

>ccksb@blaze.trentu.ca (Ken Brown) writes:
> I'm looking for a program which will generate 'n' number of passwords.

But never ever do what UCSC does for student accounts: generate passwords
constructed from scrambled blocks of constant characters.  Obviously, they
were too brilliant to write a random generator.  :P

Which of course means, if a few smart CS students sit around and compare the
initial passwords in their accounts, they can back-calculate the generation
scheme and break into other people's accounts.  Then lock out other people.

						Gary M. Lin
						gary@resumix.portal.com
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: toad@rubikon.han.de (Peter Cleve)
Subject: Where have all the messages of fsck gone ?????
Organization: Rubikon Rethen BRD
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 08:10:11 GMT

Hi!

I run a little Unix (SYSVR3) maschine for mail & Newsbatching 24 Hours a day.
My Problem is: If the power is lost and i'm not sitting in front of the
machine all the messages of fsck are lost.

Is there any way to get the messages of fsck back ???

Thanx

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  Energiesparen ist das moralische Aequivalent zum Krieg. (Jimmy Carter)
From: vulture@carrion.cc.ic.ac.uk (Thomas Sippel - Dau)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: AT&T & BSD shared printing, how?
Date: 4 Sep 92 09:10:46 GMT
Reply-To: cmaae47@cc.ic.ac.uk
Distribution: comp
Organization: Imperial College of Science, Technology and Medicine

In article <DEAN.92Sep3131223@world.std.com>, dean@world.std.com (Dean S Banfield) writes:

 -- At our site we have a BSD style lp with lots of printers and an orphan AT&T
 -- (SCO) box without any printers.  How can my SCO get access to the many queues
 -- that the BSD guy controls?

Set up a shell function or script that emits:

cat name-of-file-to-print | rsh some-bsd-machine -l some-user lpr -P some-printer

If it is written well enough, you can even call it lpr and nobody will notice.
lpq, however, is somewhat more tricky.

                                        Thomas
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From: jim@tiamat.fsc.com ( IT Manager)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Beta testers needed for security tool
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:56:44 GMT
Organization: Ahlstrom Filtration - Chattanooga,TN

In article <CKD.92Sep6222202@loiosh.eff.org>, ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) writes:
> 
> <unlock SysAdm Cabinet>
> <remove "special" floppy>
> <insert "special" floppy>
> mount -r /dev/fd0c /floppy
> /floppy/tripwire
> 
> This is one possible way to do it on floppy-equipped systems (say, an
> SS2 or IPX or whatever).  Maybe this should go in the docs?

Since most systems have SCSI these days, this is a good application for the
Syquest removeable drives.  You would do basically the same steps as above,
but the removeable media is 44 or 88 MB and has close to fixed disk performance
(so accessing large amounts of data won't be so painful).

Gene: if you're reading, I can do the tripwire testing under these
circumstances (i.e. using Syquest removeable media and NFS mounting the
cartridge to other systems), and let you know how it goes (a tester application
should be on the way via e-mail).

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From: nmm@cl.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.ultrix,comp.unix.wizards
Subject: Re: random passwd generator
Date: 9 Sep 92 07:36:43 GMT
Reply-To: nmm@cl.cam.ac.uk (Nick Maclaren)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <1992Sep8.201437.7521@resumix.portal.com>,
gary@resumix.portal.com (Gary Lin) writes:
|> >ccksb@blaze.trentu.ca (Ken Brown) writes:
|> > I'm looking for a program which will generate 'n' number of passwords.
|> 
|> But never ever do what UCSC does for student accounts: generate passwords
|> constructed from scrambled blocks of constant characters.  Obviously, they
|> were too brilliant to write a random generator.  :P
|> 
|> Which of course means, if a few smart CS students sit around and compare the
|> initial passwords in their accounts, they can back-calculate the generation
|> scheme and break into other people's accounts.  Then lock out other people.

No, no, no!  A few DIM CS students is enough.  SMART CS students should be
able to crack the srandom()-based generator described in the previous
posting.  And I mean first-year ones, too.  Of course, if they are kept in
total ignorance of the type of algorithm, you may get away with it.

If you are concerned with doing this securely, post the question to
sci.crypt - not one of the UNIX groups!


Nick Maclaren
University of Cambridge Computer Laboratory,
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street,
Cambridge CB2 3QG, England.
Email:  nmm@cl.cam.ac.uk
Tel.:   +44 223 334761
Fax:    +44 223 334679
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: vannes@srzts304.alcatel.ch (Tom van Nes)
Subject: restricted shell on SUN? (like sh5/rsh5 on ultrix)
Reply-To: thomas.vannes@alcatel.ch
Organization: Alcatel STR AG Switzerland
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 09:54:13 GMT

sh5 and rsh5 on ultrix are a confortable means to restrict
users on a sysytem. Is there a PD sh for SUN that has
these features?


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From: ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Subject: wp 5.1 for ulrtix
Reply-To: ccksb@trentu.ca (Ken Brown)
Organization: Trent University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 17:15:08 GMT


I see that WP 5.1 is around...but is there an Ultrix version?  I understood from the WP folks that the answer to this was a definitive NO!

Comments??
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From: brian@nds.com (Brian Dockter)
Subject: Re: How bad is WordPerfect 5.1
Organization: Northwest Digital Systems
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 00:42:57 GMT
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Jeff@digtype.airage.com (Jeff Wasilko) writes:
: 
: A while ago, there was a very negative discussion of WordPerfect (maybe
: 5.0?). Now, WordPerfect has released 5.1, which supposedly supports
: Xwindows in addition to character terminals.
: 
: As I recall, much of the problems centered around WordPerfect's abuse
: of the unix spooler system. Has this changed? Should I consider WP
: 5.1 now?

I can best summarize our opinion of WP5.1 with one word:

	SSSSSSSLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOWWWWWWWWWWWW!!!!!!!!!!

An example which might illustrate its potential slowness is a simple
cursor movement (text, not graphic cursor).  When you are near the
bottom of the page, each movement of the cursor with the arrow keys
causes the entire page to be redrawn on the screen.

There are also bugs with the X implementation.  Portions of the screen are
never redrawn or redrawn in the wrong size.

In order to make WP useable for us, we use the XTerm interface.

I hope they fix these problems soon, I really do like WP.

Brian
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From: reb@punch.EBay.Sun.COM (Bob Brown)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: awk/sed to C
Date: 10 Sep 92 12:38:06
Organization: Systar Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: comp.unix.admin
NNTP-Posting-Host: punch.ebay.sun.com



Does anyone know where I can get a program which will convert awk/sed/shell
programs into C code?!

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From: jerry@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Jerry Anderson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: UnixWorld and Unix magazine
Date: 9 Sep 1992 11:58:33 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

ccoprbm@prism.gatech.EDU (Bruce Mccullough) writes:

> Without yelling out me too.  I'm looking for good books on the
> UNIX lifestyle.  I've seen in UNIX WORLD books about getting
> started and learning UNIX but I was kinda looking for something
> off of that beat.  I'd looked in the book stores locally and
> didn't see anything.  Thanks.

Check out the book _Life with UNIX_.  It's an excellent overview
of UNIX history, culture, etc.  It's also very enjoyable, light
reading.  Highly recommended.

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From: leisner@eso.mc.xerox.com (Marty Leisner 311/? x?)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: multiple machine distribution architecture
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:15:01 GMT
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I'm looking for a good way to put binary versions on a known good machine, and then distribute what was updated
or is new via cron??

I supposed the best way is to do a make install on packages on the primary servers, where the mount point is a link
file system (so I'm guaranteed to get this file system).  [I'm using amd, I have no idea how to do this in automounter]

Then some type of cron script to copy what is new/changed to the other redundant machines...

I did a little playing with rdist, and couldn't get it to work (gave me some wierd error message, the man page says:
something to the effect "If you get this message, you must be doing something wrong".

I also have coda, but I didn't spend enough time to figure out how to use it...

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Marty    leisner.henr801c@xerox.com 
          Member of the League for Programming Freedom 
 	Give me source or waste my time..
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From: ehud@eng.umd.edu (Ehud Oentung)
Subject: Backup Software Package
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 92 01:31:13 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park, College of Engineering
Distribution: usa
Originator: ehud@coke.eng.umd.edu

I need to find a good backup package.
I also need any information fro anybody who have used BudTool,
Gt-Backup, and Unix-Tar packages....

Thanx.

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From: onward@fsg.com (Onward Lam)
Subject: Re: Unkillable processes
Organization: Fusion Systems Group, New York City
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 14:49:55 GMT

In article <1992Sep03.212714.28300@quaker.uucp> raymond@quaker.UUCP (Raymond C. Leung) writes:
>
>By the way, I have another type of unkillable processes which are
>zombies left by some software applications.  Use command `ps` I can see
>they are "<defunc>" and `top` shows the number of zombies on my system.
>HP people blame the application not handling exit properly.
>They said their parent process should wait() for their child processes
>before termination.  However, vendor engineer of that software told me
>that zombie is normal!  S o o o, I wouldn't worry about it.  :^)
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>

NO, NO, NO. Zombies are most definitely NOT normal.  
Go tell your software vendor.  Agreed that they do NOT affect the operation
of your application, but they still take up a process slot.

Imagine an application which fork()s every hour and the children exits
soon after they were created.  After 1 day you will have 24 zombies.
In a week you will have 168.  If the application is not owned by root,
you won't even last that long (more like 2 days and change, assuming
a 50 process per user limit).

Bottom Line: Get your vendor to fix it.


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From: mwilson@orl.mmc.com (Mark Wilson)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Idle User Detection
Date: 10 Sep 92 00:04:07 GMT
Reply-To: mwilson@orl.mmc.com
Organization: Martin Marietta Orlando

Well, the search for password aging went so well that I thought I would
try again.

We have a heterogenous network running. The bean counters like to see
usage stats (they also help us to justify more systems). Thing is we 
want the stats to reflect real work not just idle connect time. We also
want to foster more responsible users by detecting those who went home
while still logged on. What we need is some sort of watchdog program
that can detect and report excessively idle users.

Y'all did great last time. I know you can come through again.

Thanks in advance.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.apps
From: ellis@nova.gmi.edu (Stew Ellis)
Subject: Re: How bad is WordPerfect 5.1
Organization: GMI Engineering&Management Institute, Flint, MI
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 21:05:32 GMT

jrt@omega.kcr.uky.edu (J. Randall Thompson) writes:

>In article <t=n1H9tag9@atlantis.psu.edu> barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
>[stuff about WP deleted]
>>But anyway, yes, I would recommend considering WP now, especially if
>>you have PC weenies who you want to "convert" to your network.
>>

>As one of those "PC weenines" who is trying to move from the PC version
>of WP to the SUN 5.1 version, I must admit, it is nice to be able to ftp files
>between PC and UNIX version and have them work on both machines without
>any conversion. 

You could always do this with ASCII (which includes TeX). :)

>>--Dave
>>-- 
>>System Administrator, Population Research Institute    barr@pop.psu.edu
>>Emacs is a fine operating system, but I still prefer UNIX. - Tom Christiansen


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From: craig@ec.uwa.oz.au (Craig Richmond - division)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
Subject: Re: Can't get DNS running
Date: 9 Sep 1992 09:29:18 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: decel.ecel.uwa.edu.au

epc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Merlin) writes:


>Well, after a week of poring through Sun's System & Network Admin manual and
>rooting around my system, I still can't get DNS up and running.  Does anybody
>have any suggestions?

Here are the simple 20 step instructions that were kindly posted by someone
a while back.  Take a copy if you think you ever may need them.  Don't mail
me for help with them because I just kept a copy for just that reason.
Please distribute them to anyone you think needs them and if there is a FAQ
for this and many other groups, can this be put into it?

Craig
From: malexand@phakt.usc.edu (Michael Alexander)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.windows.x
Subject: Re: XterminalServer ratio wanted
Date: 15 Sep 92 21:37:01 GMT
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: phakt.usc.edu

The critical resource for X-Terminals is RAM. The network load is relatively
light due to the efficient X-protocol, as is the additional "MIPS" demand per
station. 

Cheers,

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Xref: sparky comp.unix.admin:5028 comp.sys.mips:928 comp.sys.sun.admin:6312
From: berstel@mipsmath.math.uqam.ca (Bruno Berstel)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.mips,comp.sys.sun.admin
Subject: NIS / Shadow : how do they like eachother ?
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:31:17 GMT
Reply-To: berstel@lacim.uqam.ca (Bruno Berstel)
Organization: Universite du Quebec a Montreal

Hello,

I'm about to set up NIS on our machines (2 Mips running RISC/os 5.0 and
2 Sparc2s running SunOS 4.1.{1,2}). The two Mips use the shadowed passwords
and the two Suns don't. The master server will be one Mips, one of the
Suns is intended to be a slave server.

Is there any problem to expect because of shadow ? I guess I'll have to
truncate the /etc/shadow file the same way than the /etc/passwd file [on
the client-only Mips]. (Will I have to add a + in the end or not ?) Will
the maps be constructed with the right passwords or with the "x" that
shadow puts in /etc/passwd ? Will the /etc/shadow file still be of use [on
the master server] ?

Thanks for any help.
Bruno.

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.windows.x
From: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com (Gantt Edmiston)
Subject: Re: U.S. Naval Observatory and AtomClock
Originator: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:23:01 GMT
Reply-To: sasbge@ant.unx.sas.com
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


>In article  snolan@marge.hq.af.mil (Scott D Nolan) writes:
>There was an application named "AtomClock" that would
>use you modem to dial a number in DC that once belonged
>to the US Naval Observatory in NW DC.  Their number

>If so what number do we have to ring?
>I have lost the application that did this little wonder.
>

Sorry, this is *not* what you asked for, but if you just want
to get the info, call 1-900-410-TIME (8463).  The call is
$.50/minute.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: dave@nakiska.ucs.ualberta.ca (David Ross)
Subject: UID bit size on various platforms
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 17:42:00 GMT

I apologize if this is information easily obtainable, but I was wondering  
if anyone knew the actual range of a uid in various flavours of UNIX.   
Specifically we're wondering about SunOS 4.1.2 and Solaris 2.0, AIX 3.2.2  
for RS/6000's, NeXTSTEP 3.0 (BSD 4.3), and generic System V R4.

It seems like most systems are 15 or 16 bits, but is there any attempt  
being made to switch to a 32 bit integer?

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.sys.sun.apps
From: scs@lokkur.dexter.mi.us (Steve Simmons)
Subject: Re: How bad is WordPerfect 5.1
Organization: Inland Sea
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 02:06:16 GMT

jrt@omega.kcr.uky.edu (J. Randall Thompson) writes:

>In article <t=n1H9tag9@atlantis.psu.edu> barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr) writes:
>[stuff about WP deleted]
>>But anyway, yes, I would recommend considering WP now, especially if
>>you have PC weenies who you want to "convert" to your network.
>>

>As one of those "PC weenines" who is trying to move from the PC version
>of WP to the SUN 5.1 version, I must admit, it is nice to be able to ftp files
>between PC and UNIX version and have them work on both machines without
>any conversion. 

I wouldn't call you a "PC weenie" and would agree that it's nice to be
able to transfer files.  Towards that end, I'd really like to see WP fix
their g*d d*mn*d product and make it generate a legal PostScript file.
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin,comp.unix.misc,comp.misc
From: tom@uts.cc.wayne.edu (Thomas Richard Stevenson)
Subject: Re: What is the best way to communicate remotely?
Organization: Wayne State Univ.
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:10:03 GMT

You also may want to think about using X-terminals. That is the way (I hope)
we are going to be going. You can get X-terminals for under $700.00 and up.
They do much more than a normal terminal, and are much easier to configure
than a PC. Right now I'm using a PC with a X-terminal emulater. This gives
you both world, but I would still rather have a real X-terminal.
Newsgroups: comp.unix.admin
From: quandt@mcs213h.cs.umr.edu (Brian Quandt)
Subject: sendmail.cf (and From: field) Sparc running 4.1
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 01:20:21 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

Help we have mail problems

Symtom:
	I send mail to outside world.
	Outside world trys to reply to message (elm 'r' command) and get
		and error because host unknown.

The problem seems to be in the From: field of hte outbound message, it
says  "From: ourdomainsname "

Our domainsname is differenrt from our domainname, how do I tell sendmail.cf 
that it should use our true Internet name, not our dommain name?

					Brian Quandt