From: berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Andre Berthiaume)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Lollapalooza not welcome at Great Woods, MA
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:41:56 GMT
Reply-To: wendymas@gnu.ai.mit.edu
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Organization: Universite de Montreal

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mlevi@owlnet.rice.edu (Marcel Nolan Levi) writes:

>In article <3709@cvbnetPrime.COM>, jsulliva@cvbnet.prime.com (Jeff Sullivan) writes:

>>of "vandalism" for both nights, mostly due to the bonfires that
>>were set on the lawn. The fires were fueled by ripped up sod and
>>wood from a nearby fence.

>>Also mentioned were similar incidents at other venues along the tour.

>Bonfires are a tradition at Lollapalooza!  Despite the hype and
>pretentiousness surrounding the tour (last summer & this) from 
>the commercial radio stations, I have to admit that there's a
>wonderfully sick primal thrill associated with moshing around one
>of 6 or 8 giant bonfires to the raw musical energy pouring from the
>stage, be it Ministry or Siouxsie (dallas, '91).

First off, how can you call it a tradition if Lollapalooza has only
been around for TWO years?  Also, there had been no such reported 
incidents during last year's tour.

>It's a shame that the lame authorities in Boston freaked out.  They
>allowed the concert, they should have understood and accepted the 
>'risks' involved.  It hasn't made it to Texas yet, but I heard from
>a New-Jerseyan that Lush, PJ, and Ministry were the best, and that
>J&MC were surprisingly weak and Ice -Square- sucked (2-word vocabulary
>consisting of 'mother' and 'fucker').

By the way, Great Woods is located in Mansfield, MA, which is about 40 
minutes south of Boston, so it's basically the authorities in THAT
area.  And WHO would have foreseen the lighting of bonfires at an 
event that was considered quite successful last summer?  And would
you call it an "accepted" risk if these bonfires had gotten out of
control and spread to the surrounding areas?  AND not to mention that 
there are about several thousand show-goers, some of whom may or may not
have agreed to have such potentially dangerous hazards set up during the
show.  And, if this the lighting of such bonfires do happen at other
venues, then the "tradition" of Lollapalooza may as well end this year, 
because what owners of these venues in their right mind would like to 
have their sites damaged by these bonfires.  (BTW, Great Woods IS in
a wooded area, and imagine what would have happened if one of these
bonfires had gotten out of control and spread beyond the concert site!)
Also, if such bonfires were to be such a tradition, would that mean
bonfires set at indoor venues???  Get a clue.

And as far as it being a primal thing, I think we got past that living
by such primal instinct a few thousand years ago.

>Marcel,
>mlevi@rice.edu

>BTW, I'm not going this year, as I don't want to spend $31.50 (ticket)
>    + $35.00 (shirt) + $10.00 (gas) = $76.50 to be surrounded by
>    high school jocks who want to hear Under The Bridge and Alive.

Ah!! So, you're NOT going this year!  Then what gives you the right to 
say that it if you're not going to be there to experience the 
wonderfully sick thrill of moshing around a bonfire?  And if your
backyard was right next to a concert site, would you want kids to start
tearing up your fence to start a bonfire?

Personally, I do like the idea of bonfires at Lollapalooza, but not if
they are going to be randomly set with potential to do harm to people 
and property.  They would work if Lollapalooza organizers are able to 
regulate such bonfires.


- Wendy (via Eva)



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