From: d000dlphi@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (David Speakman)
Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
Subject: Re: _Details_ magazine (was: Giddyness)
Date: 28 Dec 92 23:09:59 GMT
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Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1hn2i8INNd6u@cuda.add.itg.ti.com>, winsor@geek.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (js) writes:
> In article <1992Dec24.200952.13271@bsu-ucs>, d000dlphi@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu (David Speakman) writes:
> |> Gosh, EXACTLY that much of the song appears in the Jan 1993 issues of
> |> _Details_ magazine.    Love my _Deatials_ -- it's a very gay-postitive
> |> magazine. In fact, I'd argue that it purposely goes out of its way to
> |> accomodate LGBO readers.
> 
> How's that?  I just subscribed to _Details_ myself, but I have gotten it on the
> newstands often.  And never noticed gay-positive anything.  I just knew I liked
> the writing: honest, frank, hip, and funny.  (I could do without all the
> fashion and hair-goop nonesense, tho  ;> ).  Please elaborate - I'd like to know
> exactly *what* subliminal techniques worked on me, since I never noticed
> a bent, other than NONE at all.
> 
> john

john, here are a few examples. I'll use the Jan 1993 issue (the only on I have
that hasn't been hacked to pieces [journalism student that I am])

Intro: _Details_ (for men) magazine, a main-stream fashion, entertainment mag
for men (18-34). A hip version of QC with MUSIC, CULTURE, and NEWS. LIBERAL to
a fault (yay) 

The magazine mentions homosexuality or bisexuality in a postive
"matter-of-fact" way at least once an issue. _Details_ avoids heterosexism.

EXamples, JAN 1993 issue:
p. 13 News capulse section:
  	"Government-scnctioned homosexuality. At least among sheep. According
to sheep herders in Idaho, many of the rams they bought did not seem to be
interested in the opposite sex. A department of Agriculture study, titled 'Dud
Rams Could Be Homosexuals,' determined that 8.5 percent of the rams were most
likely gay."

p.25 Feature story, "Getting a Life" by John Weir (about 1980 college grads
growing up in the 1980s and what happened to them)
	-- touches on the inpact of AIDS and personal losses of friends.
	"And I had recently confided in Suzy and a few others that I was gay.
I'm sure no one was surprised. But it felt like a blue plastic bubble hanging
over my head."

p. 29 Advertisement
	- Male model wearing a womens (sic) bathing cap. Crossdressing.

p. 31 LYRIC
	Leonard Cohen lyric from "Democracy" (started this thread)

p. 34 "Beauty and the Bait" by Hillary Johnson
	"Sandra Bernhard is to beauty what the Pope is to Tantric yoga - not so
much opposite as unrealated. She doesn't even try, which itself borders on
alluring."

p. 40 "Iron and the Soul" by Henry Rollins (pro-wieghtlifting article appeals
to those ostracized in high school
	"I only talked to a few boys in my grade. Other losers. Some of them to
this day the greatest people I have ever known. Hang out with a guy who has had
his head flushed down a toilet a few times, treat him with respect, and you'll
find a faithful friend forever."

p. 50-2 "Between the Sheets" by Anka Radakovich (she is my favorite _D_ writer)
(An article about the pursuit for love with personal ads)
       	"After he made some disparaging remarks about gays and blacks, I
accused him of being homophobic and racist I added sexist to the list when he
said, 'if women didn't have that thing between their legs they'd be
nothin'.'...As I was getting ready to leave, he looked me in the eye and tried
to get me to promise that I would never write anything about him because he was
'planning to run for political office.' I suggested the Supreme Court."

p.56 "The Front Line: 27 people making a difference"
	Tony Kushner, playwright
	"In 1993 I'd like to attend the Clinton/Gore inaugral in Washington and
dance on the graves of George Bush and Ronald Reagan. I'd like to celebrate a
cure for AIDS. I think we need to stop worrying about the deficit and start
worrying about healthcare and education. On the lighter side, I predict that
Nancy Reagan will be the blowjob queen of Hollywood and that the marriage of
Clarence and Virginia Thomas will break up over his scandalous sadomasochistic
love affair with Supreme Court Justice Anthony (sic) Scalia."

p.80 Tom Arnold Interview
	Q: I hear you're trying to have a kid...
	A: If it's a girl I want to name her Sugar and call her shoogie....So I
guess now it's Shoogie Babette LaRue Arnld.
	Q: It sounds like you guys are trying to have a drag queen.
	A: I guess we are.
p. 117 Comparison bwtween Madonna's _SEX_ and _Penthouse_ "Forum"
 	One catagory: Publication's attitude toward homosexuality.

I don't know about subliminal messages. For a non-gay publication, this
magazine is rittled with sexuality diversity.

David
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