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From:         Rusty Perrin <U7584RT@DOEMA.BITNET>
Subject:      More on Watermarks

For the method of setting the print color before the graphic, this will of
course work only on a printer which can do gray scale printing. I presume that
this rules out most dot matrix printers, but WP may have gotten fancy with the
printer drivers, and found a way to do it. It is a much harder problem,
though, as with a laser, you just tell it to start using a color, and then
send the rest as normal, whereas with a DM printer, WP would have to interpret
the graphic and figure out which dots to include and exclude, which is more
difficult. Note that the method described above would not work for a EPS file
if the file contained any color information internally, as these would
override it. Even if the picture is all black, the creating program might have
set the grey level to 0 (or is it 1?), which would override WP's setting. This
would be true also for any other format which allowed color information (are
there any?).

Also, if you are using postscript, you can get a better watermark look
(depending on the software). Using Corel, go into the postscript options for
the figure and set the screening to 90 (it is probably defaulting to around
60.) This will give you a much smoother grey which will look more like a water
mark. For Windows programs in general, if you dig through the advanced
features buttons in the printer driver, you may find a screening option there
also. (Our printer drivers have it, but I suspect that there are Postscript
drivers out there which have not included it.) Anyhow, higher screening levels
give you smoother greys at the cost of reducing the number of different grey
levels available to you. They also tend to make the greys darker, so you'll
have to use a lower percentage grey level. If these are set, the EPS file will
carry the attributes forward into WP, but will not affect the rest of the WP
document. Of course with WP4Win, you can do this with all your greys if the
printer drivers allow it.
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From:         John M Overton <OVERTON@GSE.UTAH.EDU>
Subject:      Can anyone help me???

          I'm not a member of your discussion group, but I have a question
that I believe only you will know.  I want to communicate via the internet or
what ever with someone who works at WordPerfect in Orem Utah.  First, is this
possible?  Second, is it allowed?  Third, how do I get their address?  I have
asked the other party but they do not know their address.

                    Please resond to me personally as I will not get the
response if it is sent to the forum.  Thank you.

                    John Overton   overton@gse.utah.edu
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From:         JOEL@GACVX2.GAC.EDU
Subject:      Re: More on Watermarks

Regarding the discussion of printing watermarks via Bryan Larsen's article in
WordPerfect Magazine dated January 1993 (pg 66):

I have done some testing on a number of different printers and this
is what I have experienced:

HP LaserJet IIISI (HP PCL-5 mode) - the watermark prints out beautifully as
described in the article.

HP LaserJet IIISI (Postscript mode) - the watermark prints as a regular graphic
in rich deep BLACK. (i.e. cannot achieve the shaded/grayscale effect.)

Apple LaserWriter IINTX - same as IIISI in Postscript mode.
Apple LaserWriter IIG - same as IIISI in Postscript mode.

It appears that Postscript does not interpret the "Yellow" color option as a
grayscale and HP PCL-5 does.

Has anybody else out there encountered this / or have an opinion?

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Subject:      Passwords (was: ASCII dictionary)

    (If anyone is planning to complain that this thread
    belongs on comp.security - perhaps it does, but not
    everyone reads that list, 'specially not the people
    like Mike Oswald's customers who need to, and it's
    a subject that concerns ALL of us).

    What Mike should do is try to get them to read
    Clifford Stoll's (very readable) book "The Cuckoo's
    Egg"; then perhaps folk would learn why they
    should use a sensible p/w; it's not just to guard
    your own, probably non-sensitive data; it's to
    help protect all the umpteen other people whose
    computers can be reached by springboarding from one
    site to the next after hijacking the ID of someone
    who is using a readily guessable p/w.  Anyone care
    to hazard a guess how many IDs like, say, JWSMITH
    have JWS at the password ?

    Seen this way, I guess being serious about your p/w
    could be called a *very* important part of computer
    network etiquette.

    Derry Cook-Radmore
    European Space Agency, Paris

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From:         Steve Westerholt <IACD040@UNLVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Presentation Programs
              27 Jan 1993 09:59:58 -0500 from <DENKOG@UWOCC1.UWO.CA>

   In regards to presentation programs, if you are using dos environment you
may want to look at lotus Freelance Plus.  This is a vector graphics program
that produces very high quality detailed graphics and slides if you have access
to one of the many imagers supported.  You also can do screen slide shows as
well.

   If you are using Windows I would strongly recommend Powerpoint from Micro-
soft.  Powerpoint is powerful and very simple to learn.  I can instruct a new
user on it's use in about 15 minutes to the point where they have the program
mastered.  It has a simple graph program that produces a wide variety of graphs
is seconds.  It allows you the ability to insert graphs, drawings, tables, etc.
from spreadsheets or other window programs with a click of a mouse button.  It
can also do screen slide presentations.

   Other programs I have worked with are Coral Draw which is very powerful
vector and raster graphics program that produces very nice drawings and graphs.
However, it is somewhat complicated due to all the manipulation that you can
do to your drawings.  It raster graphics paint program is a piece of art in
itself.  You can fix up a scaned image or paint your own "PBS's Ross" mountain
view masterpiece.

   I have worked some with Windows freelance and Persuasion and found them some
what similar to powerpoint only with a little variation in their looks.

Steve Westerholt
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From:         DEBBIE JUSTICE <JUSTICE@WCUVAX1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: More on Watermarks

Joel,

> It appears that Postscript does not interpret the "Yellow" color option as a
> grayscale and HP PCL-5 does.
>
> Has anybody else out there encountered this / or have an opinion?

We've had the same results printing to an Apple LW II/NT.

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From:         Keith Gare <DENKOG@UWOCC1.UWO.CA>
Subject:      Making Watermarks

Okay, for everybody that asked, here is the solution that I was given that
works best for me.  Now, this works on a HP Laserjet III and will probably
work on anything above that, but I can't test that...

>WordPerfect the Magazine featured "how to create a watermark" in their
>January 1993 edition.  To create a shaded graphic with regular text typed
>on top of it, you first create a header and place the graphic inside the
>header.  Change the colour to yellow, and retrieve your graphic into
>the header screen.
>
>Because the print colour is yellow in the header, the regular document
>text is not affected.  You then exit from the header and type the desired
>text in any desired font.

That's all there is to it.  Be Careful with the graphic you use though.
I tried a very detailed graphic and I had to print the page twice, once
for the graphic and again to get the text on it. Don't know why but, other
graphics have worked fine.  Yellow seems to work the best, but feel free
to try others.

My thanks to Joanne O'Leary at Cabot College in Newfoundland CANADA for the
tip.  Also, Joanne, I found our copy of the magazine, so I have a backup
reference...Thanks.

Keith
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Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 13:05:22 EST
From: <RFM@psuvm.psu.edu>
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Subject: *Crude* solution to reverse printing withe HP DJ500

I posted a query yesterday asking for help with a macro for printing
with a DeskJet500. Problem is that DJ500 outputs pages with printed
side up, and prints sequentially starting with 1st page, so you end
up with printed doc in reverse order, with need to shuffle pages into
correct order manually, etc.

Maybe it's the cold medicine I'm taking right now, but anyway, this morning
a crude solution came to me: I can do it in *TWO* macros plus an
intervening step.

# 1. I created a macro called "LPP" (for Last Page Print, natch)which
     does (1) {Home} {Home} {Down-Arrow} - to get to last page of doc;
     then (2) a {Shft/F7} - to go to printer menu; the (3) a {2} - to
     print the single page.

# 2. Press the {ESCAPE} key to invoke the repeat function, and enter
     a number that is [Total number of pages in doc (minus) 1.

# 3. Invoke a second macro (I named mine "NPUP" (for Next Page Up Print),
     which does the following (1) one {Page-Up} (Shft/F7} then a "2" to
     print a single page.

The second macro executes as many times as the number entered at Step # 2,
so if you can subtract correctly, the NPUP macro should stop after printing
its last iteration - which should be the first page of the document.

If all goes well, the document should be sitting in the output tray
with its 1st page on top, its last page on bottom, and all intermediate
pages in correct order.

Anybody out there have any idea how to automate this 3-step process -
put it into on big macro? Now that would really make life easy!

BobM, Penn State Harrisburg
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From:         Mike Oswald <MOSWALD@UNMCVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Ascii Dictionary Needed

Help!  Anyone know whether there is an ASCII Dictionary available?  The
random passwords that I generated won't fly with our customers.  They
have complained about how hard it is to remember them (eg. EB4335).  I know,
you would think they could change it, right?  What a pain!

So what I'm left with is trying to locate an ascii dictionary or some source
that will allow me to extract or print to a file a large number of common
words.

Any help or suggestions would be appreciated.  Thanks.
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From: fulton@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Ben Fulton)
Subject: Re: Ascii Dictionary Needed
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 18:38:57 GMT

In <9301221422.AA01221@biome.bio.ns.ca> Bill Silvert <bill@BIOME.BIO.NS.CA> writes:

>Sure.  I could send you a dictionary.  Then I could use that dictionary
>to crack all your passwords!  ZJust as easy not to both with passwords
>at all and run a wide-open system.

So what would be wrong with grabbing a six-letter word from a dictionary
and appending a two-digit random code to it?  Still not horrendously hard
to break, but much better than just words.

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Date:         Wed, 27 Jan 1993 09:59:58 -0500
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From:         Keith Gare <DENKOG@UWOCC1.UWO.CA>
Subject:      Presentation Programs

Hi.  This may not be the right place for this question but it seems like
a good place to start...

I am looking for information/experience with presentation programs like
Harvard Graphics, WP Presentations, what ever is out there.  I would also
like to know what is available out there.

Opinions, comments and suggestions welcomed at

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From:         Rusty Perrin <U7584RT@DOEMA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: More on Watermarks

WRT PostScript not interpreting Yellow as Greyscale, try picking a different
PostScript printer driver and see if it works better. Other than different
fonts, the printer capabilities are pretty similar under postscript, but the
specific printer driver you are using may have disabled the capability. Try
the QMS PS-810 driver, for instance.
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Could someone send me the listserv address to subscribe to this list?  thanks..
...just send by email to me please.

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From:         JANOUSK <JANOUSK.ACS@MHS.CSO.NIU.EDU>
Subject:      Am I the only one .... -Reply

>that wants to make a text-file containing music-bars?? I would
>prefer to make the music bars and notes within wp with some kind
>of ingenious macro, but I'd settle for a utility to make them
>outside wp and then include them as graphic-files.  Can anyone
>give me some pointers ??
>I already looked around some but couldn't find much that's
>useful.

>thanks all (for reading and maybe even helping !?)

>Geert Leemeijer
>ao_gl@aznvx1.azn.nl

I know this is a late response, but I think this can be done in
WordPerfect using the advance feature.

You could use the table feature in WordPerfect to create the
horizontal and vertical lines.  This structure would only have to
be created once and could be copied as many times as needed.

After the table is created you could place the notes on the line
below the table (using the musical font Tom Mathieu mentioned he
got off the Internet).  Using the advance key you could advance
the musical note up (using advance up, not advance to a position)
to the place it needs to be (Shift F8, Other, Advance) and after
the note advance back down again.

You could create a macro for each position (i.e. one for a F
note, one for an A note, etc.)  The macro would only take care of
the vertical positioning of each note and the font would take
care of how the note looks.  The horizontal positioning would be
taken care of by the spacing between each note.

So the steps would be: building a table for the line structure;
typing the notes on the line below the line structure; then going
back to the notes and placing an advance up code before the note,
and an advance down code after the note.  Doing the advance down
would return you to a certain base line so that you could use
macros for the advance up and advance down.  I am trying to say
an F note would always be advanced up the same distance because
you will always be starting at the same base line.  The advance
up amount and the advance down amount would be equal so that the
starting point is always the same.

The on screen version would not look correct, but if you use view
or print the page the notes will print on top of the table
structure using this method.

If this doesn't make sense, feel free to E-Mail me.

JANOUSK.ACS@MHS.CSO.NIU.EDU
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Subject: How save text from a Figure Box?
From: edwin@ccu1.aukuni.ac.nz (Edwin Ng)
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 21:47:04 GMT
Organization: University of Auckland, New Zealand.

Hi.  I have some old WP51 files with text in Figure boxes which I want to
extract and modify.  The text is formatted in a Table form.  After
I modify the table, I can't get out of Figure Edit and I get the error
message "Too Much Text" (or similar).  The only way I could get out then
was to delete everything.

I tried to save the text to file for editing but the F10 key, which works
for graphics, doesn't work for text.  Does anyone have any suggestions
on what to do next?  Any advice would be much appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

Cheers,

Edwin


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From:         Cletus Stripling <CSTRIPLI@UGA.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Network transmission of Wordperfect documents
              26 Jan 1993 13:52:06 CST from <ECON1286@MIZZOU1.MISSOURI.EDU>

On Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:52:06 CST John Bigelow said:
>On Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:05:11 GMT Dale R. Worley said:
>>Has anybody had any success with transmitting Wordperfect documents
>>over any of the networks (especially the Internet)?
>>
>Yes.  I've done it two ways: 1) using the 7-bit electronic mail format
>in the CONVERT utilty provided with WP, and 2) using uuencode and pkzip.
>
7-bit transfer format will not work with our system, an ES9000 sending
to Internet sites.
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Subject: Re: More on Watermarks
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:45:16 GMT
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>used, with a 7/92 printer driver.  Anyone been able to create the watermark
>effect with an Apple LaserWriter?

WP 2.1.1 for the Macintrash has the watermark feature built in.
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From:         Richard Warwick <WARWICKR@SLUVCA.SLU.EDU>
Subject:      Re: WP Office, InForms, 6.0 & 5.2 Questions

DATE SENT:  21-JAN-1993 08:33:00

>>>>>>>>>WARNING - LURKER SURFACING<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

>Also of interest is a promised SMTP to PC WP office gateway to be released
>after 4.
>We currently run a 3rd party gateway that does this and Office makes a nice
>front end to internet mail.

what product are you using to do this?

>
>This wasn't an FAQ as "no-one" seems to ever talk about office on this
>group.

We are a large (700 user) Office site, and we are waiting with baited
breath for Office 4.0.

>Regards
>smart@actrix.gen.nz

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DIVE DIVE<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<

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Subject:      Re: WP Office, InForms, 6.0 & 5.2 Questions

Hello,
Could people who have experience with the WP-Office email send their remarks to
wards the gateways to me.
Are their single users of WP Office e-mail?  Did they purchase 5 lincences and
a gateway to be able to send to Internet or other networks?
How was the feedback from WP when you asked for a single WPOffice package and w
anted also the e-mail packadge?  Did you agree with the 4 extra (expensive) use
less lincences?
Please send your answers to ps890866 at fpsw.ufsia.ac.be

Thanks in advance.
Lode Goukens
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