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Subject: Trying
Date: 2 Jan 93 00:45:42 GMT
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Just trying to find out, how this donkey Mustafa has become so intellegent
He now a days uses this service.


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From: banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Lok Sabha source?(Re: Victory Day in Bangladesh (what about India?
Date: 22 Dec 1992 19:37:07 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: hsc.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec23.015943.8070@udel.edu> kazi@oin.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi) writes:

>I presume Samit is mis-identifying Tiger Sidduiqui [aka Bagha Siddiqui]
>as a Shanti Bahini commander. 


That is entirely possible. However, unless I am very much mistaken, a certain
Bagha Siddiqui does liason with the Indian Army and the Chakmas. That much
I know for certain from family members who are in the Army. 

Maybe somebody can shed some light on the Chakma end of the story.

Samit



Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
From: kazi@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi)
Subject: Re: Ganga Water sharing (was Re: Victory in ....about India?)
Organization: University of Delaware, Newark
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 1992 07:55:21 GMT

In article <1hdl2dINNm0u@hsc.usc.edu> banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee) writes:
>In article <1992Dec24.000352.20911@udel.edu> kazi@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Zunaid Kazi) writes:

[Discussion about contending proposals deleted]

The issue that seems to be blocking any sort of agreement is the issue
of sovereignty and who gets to have control of the augmented water
flow. Hopefully the two nations can put narrow national differences
aside and agree to accept the whatever plan is best for both the
nations. For this we need input from water resource experts since
I do not consider myself in any way well versed in this area to
choose between the two proposals or even come up with a better one.

>A small correction. The Jamuna merges with the Ganga in Allahabad and does not
>flow east thereafter. 

A minor correction. The Brahmaputra is called the Jamuna in Bangladesh.

>The Brahmaputra flows through largely uninhabitated land in Arunachal
>Pradesh and Upper Assam. The density of population increases dramatically
>once it reaches the lower Assam valley also called the Barak Valley. 
>However, the bulk of the crop grown here is tea which unlike rice does
>not need large amounts of water. Also, the population densities are much
>lower than that found on the Indo-Gangetic basin. Therefore, the Ganga
>Brahmaputra link canal would not shift the water scarcity but rather mitigate
>it. The BD objections stem from the fact that the Brahmaputra waters that 
>would have flowed into that country unused from the Indian side, would now be
>passing into Indian control.  Understandable and yet so easily overcome.

Yes, but the Indian plan envisaged the origin of the link-canal to
be inside Bangladesh just south of the border. Thus the water that
will be used to augment the Ganges flow would adversely affect the 
irrigation of the Northern districts of Bangladesh as well as the
problems that I mentioned earlier.

>Samit

- Zunaid
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From: mannan@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Crazy Asshole)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Victory Day / why India intervened in '71
Date: 27 Dec 92 11:25:58 GMT
Organization: Virginia Tech Computer Science Dept, Blacksburg, VA

In article <NAEEM.92Dec26121413@occs.cs.oberlin.edu> naeem@occs.cs.oberlin.edu (Naeem Mohaiemen) writes:
>In article <1992Dec23.093228.9126@lut.ac.uk> G.S.Samra@lut.ac.uk writes:
>
>   In article <BzoHvA.G52@uceng.uc.edu> mghayalo@uceng.uc.edu (Manoj Ghayalod) writes:
>
>
>   >We Indians are proud of you.  The treatment the Pakistani soldiers
>   >recieved shows the high standards of professionalism of the Indian army.
>   >
jl  Indian army is a joke!! While the whole world world is calling for a military intervention in Bosnia  ( even the U.N. Secretary General) just after the riots in india the indian U.N. chief in Bosnia..suggested that the U.N. should not
intervene militarily in Bosnia. This commanded is a Stupid person and Indian
army sucks!!!!!     
je
-- 
I am Crazy!!
From: williams@husc16.harvard.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: E-mail FROM Bangladesh-- help?
Date: 28 Dec 92 17:21:56 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

Following is a query from KIDSNET-- can anyone help?
Thanks,

David Williams
williams@husc3.harvard.edu
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>         Date: Sun,27 Dec 92 09:33:50 EST    
>	  From: asd1@starbase.trincoll.EDU (American School for the Deaf id1) 
>	  Subject: Contact in Bangladesh???

>         Our  assistant executive director will be traveling to Bangladesh
>    to  provide  some  education  to  teachers  in  training  there  about
>    education  of  deaf  and hard of hearing children.  I would like to be
>    able to cement his  "love"  for  internet  and  computers  <ahem!>  by
>    establishing a means for him to contact us while there.

>         Is there anyone about who can direct me in this endeavor?

>         Thanks!  
>	  Roselle Weiner 
>	  ASD1@starbase.trincoll.edu
From: t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: alt.culture.bengali : should we move it?
Date: 28 Dec 1992 18:40:29 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu




	Some more clarifications:

khaleq@brahms.udel.edu (Mohame Khalequzzaman) writes:

> How many people in Pakistan speak Bengali, let alone LOVE Bengali language
> and culture? I am surprised to see that an alternative news group is being
> proposed for Bengali language and culture, yet there is no mention of the
> word Bangladesh ( only country on the face of the Earth where Bengali is the
....deleted
>scb. I hope it is an honest mistake on the part of the organizer (!) of
> this newsgroups. If it is not a mistake ( I mean the so organizer doesn't
> want to admit that it was a mistake), I personally seriously hurt and will
...deleted
>made it clear, may be the organizer doesn't mneed any support anyway.

	I meant soc.culture.bangladesh in place of soc.culture.pakistan
and it was my absent-mindedness that was to blame. I guess it was very clear
from the tone of my charter that the Language Bangla was the object of
the newsgroup not the politics of the 2 countries. I am sorry for that typo
however. Also the organizer (??!!) needs all the support he can get.


rajdas@rainier.tandem.com ( Raj Das) writes:

> please refrain from lumping Assam as a state that speaks Bengali. In case you

Assam has a large number of unwelcome(?) settlers who speak Bengali. Though
Assamese is the main/principal language in Assam, Bengali is a strong second.
That is all I meant. I did not intent to reduce the significance of Assamese.

	Also some others have suggested that this newsgroup should be moved to
soc.lang.bengali or sci.lang.bengali. I have been flamed in alt.config for
keeping the discussions alive for 5 weeks. So, I would like your opinions
on this proposal immediately as to how and when I need to do so and in such
a case I would like consensus on the name. Please respond to this post immediately. If more people are in favor of acb, we will need to create it immediately
but if more people prefer sci.l.b or soc.l.b, then we need to move the discussion
to news.* heirarchy.

Regards,


Bijoy Sagar
From: an3923@anon.penet.fi
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Learn English, Saeed. ( Was Re: Apology demanded from dchatterjee)
Date: 26 Dec 92 20:39:13 GMT
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.bangladesh



In article <783fall217@cse.unl.edu>, fall217@cse.unl.edu ( Syed Agha Saeed) writes:
> I want to clarify one thing that I am not agree with the
> thoughts of mr.shams either. Dont assume that I am supporting
> such kind of things.
>

	At least your grammatical style is just as coherent as his:-)
Why don't you guys take a hike and while you are at it, learn a little
bit of English from an elementary school? After all, you guys need to undo
the filthy madrasa material that you learned in your childhood.

	Don't even assume that I am supporting such kind of things:-)

> syed agha saeed

Irfan Ahmed,
Sys. Admin, Calico Tech.
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From: z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bangladesh
Subject: Import/Export research
Date: 27 Dec 92 23:46:50 CST
Organization: Stephen F. Austin State University

Hello all,

	We are doing research on various items that international countries
would be intrested in exporting and importing.  The items can consist of
anything from clothing to large machines.  Of course, they must be a legal
product to enter and exit the diffrent countries.  These are some questions 
that we are trying to find the answers to:
 
1.) How would we gather information concerning the legal regulations on
	shipping to the country of bangladesh? 

2.) Who would an individual contact in that country about shipping
	requirements?  

3.) What kind of licences or paper work does a company need to enter
	this foreign market place?


I really would appreciate any help concerning this matter.  Thank you very
much for your time and hope to hear from you soon.




Sincerly,



Ronald L. Ables


z_ablesrl@ccsvax.sfasu.edu
	or
sfa1@jetson.uh.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan)
Subject: Re: Please Make me Bengali [ Bengali culture for net.bhadraloks] -- Icarus.
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 21:19:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.020843.11936@udel.edu> godura@hercules.cis.udel.edu (Ruchir Godura) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.025447.27626@colorado.edu> paulchem@tigger.cs.Colorado.EDU (Atharvan) writes:
>>So many reasons to be a bengali, at least a honorary one.
>>Do I have to count more reasons ?
>8B theke boshe paanchjoner shonge lemon chaa aar feeltar hooeels 
>kheyecho ?

:-) 
I could resort to a close friend who is a bengali to decode,
but why worry, here let me try, after all Im trying for honorary
bengalihood:

You ask me if I have ever eaten some sweet "feeltar hooels" 
along with lemon tea 
with five friends. What is the 8B ? Some bus number or some such ?
Well, Dont laugh too loud, malayalam will be opaque to you. :-)
I hope I havent goofed up. 

>10 ghonta bekaar boshe aantellectual kotha kore kore thek merecho ?
>Evaluate yourself now ! :-)

Here I do pretty well [I presume ]. :-)
Have you ever wasted ten hours talking intellectual stuff ?

>Ruchir.
>>
>>2] Stay Cool..
>Thik, guru, matha thanda rakhai besh.

:-) Ill keep my head cool too.

One never knows, how the most casual of postings evoke strong responses.
Some one has been debating Tagores writing with me, after I mentioned him
in the original article.

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From: shadagop@remus.rutgers.edu (Narayanan Shadagopan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: (was Re:Alt.culture.bengal)
Date: 24 Dec 92 22:59:33 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.



Harsh - will you please stop posting on the net?
The reasons for this are:

1) You are stupid.
2) People would unnecessarily extrapolate that everybody from Rutgers
   is stupid.
3) You are ugly (I should know - you are my room-mate).

Leave the Bengalis alone, and worry about Bihar. It needs more help. 
See you tonight.

-Narayanan Shadagopan 
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E-mail: shadagop@central.rutgers.edu
From: marek@wigry.ucr.edu (marek chrobak)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: help with email address
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:05:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Riverside

Sorry for posting it here, but perhaps someone will be able to
help me with the following problem. I received email from
ajay@cc.iitb.ernet.in, and I have tried to reply but my replies
keep bouncing. Perhaps I need to specify the address in a
different format? What's ernet?If anyone has any suggestions,
please send me email, I don't read this newsgroup.

Thanks in advance,

Marek


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From: gopal@rwja.umdnj.edu (Srihari Gopal)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Madhuri Dixit GIFS (part 2)
Summary: Madhuri Dixit GIFS (part 2)
Keywords: Madhuri dixit GIFS (part 2)
Date: 24 Dec 92 07:45:24 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ

Attention everyone. I've just posted a 2nd GIF of Madhuri Dixit.
Its available from alt.binaries.pictures.misc

The picture was scanned from the cover of a magazine. I couldn't
recognize the script. But its a color image showing her dressed in
traditional Indian garb. Its rather nice.

BTW I've just scanned about 10 pictures of various Indian film stars
I plan to convert them to GIF/JPG format soon next week, and then I'll
start uploading them to alt.binaries.pictures.misc. 

I have received a lot of mail from people out there concerning how/what/where
why about GIF files. I dont have time to respond to each individually. Please
check the FAQ (Frequently asked Questions) posted weekly on all the
"alt.binaries.pictures" groups.

Srihari Gopal
gopal@rwja.umdnj.edu
From: patel@key.amdahl.com (Chandresh Patel)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Fake Degrees From TamilNadu
Date: 23 Dec 92 23:09:13 GMT
Reply-To: patel@key.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Advanced System Division

In article CKJ@cs.psu.edu, narayana@psuvax1.cs.psu.edu (Kuram T Narayana) writes:
-> My intention in posting about this item was to draw attention to two
-> things! 
-> 
-> 1) Suppose two people from TN apply for something in US.
->    They are not yet residing in US. One is genuine and one is fake.
->    Who would you prefer to choose; the fake or the real. It doesn't
                                                            ^^^^^^^^^^
->     matter what their competence is. That requires one to check the
      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
->    varacity of applicants from TN, because atleast, at the moment,
->    the decease of deceipt is confined to TN. If the decease has spread
->    wide, then one needs to scrutinize all.

Why is competence of not an importance?
I would choose one who is competent. Bottom line is, get the job done.
World is not black or white that a degree is a must for a job!!
As I mentioned before, if a job is done by a fake degree guy then the
job was not worth the degree engineer's effort because he would be over
qualified.  On the other hand, if the job called for credentials from 
a degreed engineer and the fact that the fake engineer qualifed, shows that
his fake degree not important after all.

Believe me that no body in right mind (in US that is) go hire someone just
on merit of his/her degree.

-> 
-> 2) The ugliness of this has implications for all of us, if not today
->    some other day.
-> 
->    As for as TN residents in US are concerned, the story should not affect
->    them. In most cases their progress here is governed either by orally
->    talking to them, or through references; how good these are, it is
->    difficult to say. 
-> 
-> If we take this notion of  "degrees of deceipt", it shows how the values
-> of education in the society have declined; TN seems to open our eyes.
-> 
-> ....kt


Don't worry. Be happy.

Study well and get the degree, you will get a job. (If you know what you
are doing and not what is taught. :) )

Chandresh Patel	
patel@key.amdahl.com
From: sramacha@talitha.usc.edu (Sudarshan Ramachandran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Bangalore and IIT's
Date: 31 Dec 1992 12:03:32 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: talitha.usc.edu

In article <1992Dec31.160221.5696@cbfsb.cb.att.com> ravis@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (ravi.krishnaswamy) writes:
>The article mentioned about the origin of the name Bangalore. It said that
>it is a transliteration of "Boiled bean village". Well, it is true. Here is
>what I read/heard when I grew up in Bangalore.
>
>
>


One Tamilian said, "Bangalore" is actually "PengaLooru" - Land of Girls.

I wholly agree ;-)







Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: srsurapa@mtu.edu (Surapanani)
Subject: Bulls - A Poem
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 01:40:58 GMT

            Bulls

     Whats this bull about the Bulls I say
        harmless and serene as they bray
        chewing the bile in leisure
        in calm and stupor
        with occasional wagging of the tail
        at the buzzing Bees

     Only when it's drunk
        with the spirits of the past
        will it see the red
        and off it comes out of stupor
        with untold chargin
        its horns blaring
        and nostrils flaring
        charging the common folk and
        falling for the enemy trap

     May be the Bull needs a cowboy
        with a slender cord
        who with the flick of his wrist
        apply the whip
        sharp and stinging
        painful but effective
        in sobering the wretched nerves
        of drunken Bull to the realities
        of the present and future

     So beware O' Bulls
        and lay off the dark spirits
        for they will cause only untold hardships
        for the holy cows and magic fakirs
        and in the present times so wrought with
        despair and drought
        all they need from you is
        not a pair of your horns
        but a share of your corn
        from the harvest in the rich green pastures

     So O' Bulls, listen to this shepherd now
        and chew on my verses later
        for I speak from the Quran and Gita
        harness no hatred for the fakirs
        even if their magic in Abracadabra
        is not as mystical as your mantras and holy hymns
        as they are your true brethren
        in flesh and blood
        for they look and bleed
        like you and me
        in shades of brown and red.


                               Srini Surapanani

         (The cowboy from the land of holy cows and magic fakirs)

P.S.             The sins of mankind
                 echo from heaven to hell
                 and the sounds of whiplash
                 ring whoosh, wheesh and
                 wooooooooooooooooosh.
From: rkrithiv@hopi.intel.com (Ramamurthy Krithivas)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Sister Nivedita: The Glory of Hinduism
Date: 25 Dec 1992 19:19:28 GMT
Organization: --------------
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: pima.intel.com


From : Tattva Darsana
Article : Swami Vivekandanda's mission
         From the works of Sister Nivedita.
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Swami Vivekananda and the Glory of Hinduism :

Truth being thus the one goal of the Hindu creeds, and this being
conceived of, not revealed truth to be accepted, but as accesible 
truth to be experienced: it followed that there could never be
antagonism, real or imagined, between scientific and religious 
conviction, in Hinduism. In this fact the Swami saw the immense
capacity of the Indian peoples for that organized conception of
science peculiar to modern era. No advance of knowledge had ever
been resisted by the religious intellect of India. Nor had the 
Hinduism clergy, --a greater glory still! -- ever been known to
protest against the right of the individual to perfect freedom 
of thought and belief. This fact indeed giving birth to the 
doctrine of the Ishta Devata (the chosen ideal) -- the idea that
the path of the soul is to be chosen by itself -- he held to be
the one universal differentia of Hinduism; making it not only 
tolerant, but absorbent, of every possible form of faith and 
culture. 

 Even the temper of sectarianism, characterized by the conviction 
that God himself is of the believer's creed, and his limited group 
one true church, and allying itself, as it now and then will with 
every statement that man has ever formulated: was regarded by 
Hinduism, he pointed out as a symptom, not of falsehood or narrowness
but only of youth. It constituted Sri Ramakrishna had said, the
intellectual fence, so necessary to the seedling, but so inimical to
the tree. The very fact that we could impose limitations, was a 
proof that we are still dealing with the finite. When the cup of
experience should be full, the soul would dream only of the infinite
"All men hedge in the fields of earth but who can hedge in the sky" had
said the Master.

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From: na@abb-sc.abb-sc.com (Aru Arunasalam)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: (BBC Report on AIDS in India Formerly Re: AIDS drug by indian firm)
Date: 4 Jan 93 01:26:54 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: ABB Systems Control Company, Inc.


"AIDS in India" was discussed at length during last Saturday's BBC News Desk
program. 

Apparently most blood banks in India are not screening for HIV. Even in cases
where it is known that the blood is infected, hospitals go ahead and use 
the blood anyway because of financial constraints. One doctor from a very
well known Bombay hospital said that most blood banks in the country aren't
even screening for Hepatitis as yet...  This doctor went on to note that
they (health professionals) are aware of the spreading epidemic but are
unable to do anything about it.

Apparently random screening  of women in maternity wards indicates that
one person in 200 is infected with HIV.  The BBC program noted that unless
India is able to check the spread of AIDS now,  the problem will be
unmanageable by the year 2000.  

Aru/                                 na@abb-sc.com

		     

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From: an4352@anon.penet.fi
Subject: Happy New Year
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: soc.culture.indian
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 08:25:37 GMT


 I wish you all a happy new year.
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