HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Christmas coming soon...
From: mcbirch@acs.harding.edu
Date: 11 Dec 92 10:58:05 -0500
Reply-To: mcbirch@acs.harding.edu
Organization: Harding University

In article <2b1b9f9e.2299comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>, akcs.totofgs@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Christophe NGUYEN) writes:
>Hello !
>
>Here I am again...
>
>Just to tell you that I will send here for Christmas a big present...
>
>A Nice Present from France...
>
>Just tell me here (respond to my mess here...with "r"...)...
>
>If you prefer uuencoded files or asc files....
>
>Personally I prefer the uuencoding method because it's less
>expensive in room...but I'd like your opinion about that...
>
>Thanks to answer me HERE (with respond option...)...
>
>Do it Now !...because after it's to late.....
>
>Christophe NGUYEN.  (p6ip392@ibm1.cicrp.jussieu.fr)
>
Personally if have just manage to get a asc decoder on my hp and I like it alot
Not to mention uudecode programs seam to alway give my problems.  So I would
like it in asc.
						Thanks
						MCBIRCH
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: an error on the hp?
Date: 12 Dec 92 07:55:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: miser.STEVEV.92Dec11235557
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores
NNTP-Posting-Host: miser.uoregon.edu
In-reply-to: dougc@bert.cs.byu.edu's message of Fri, 11 Dec 92 16:56:01 MST

In article <0l#@byu.edu> dougc@bert.cs.byu.edu (Douglas R. Cannon) writes:

   This is not a bug, but rather a misunderstanding of how units
   are defined on the HP48.  I am not saying, "read the FAQ", but
   this is the best way to answer your question:

Then I'll say, to anyone new to this group, "read the FAQ."
Lately I've had little tolerance for seeing the same questions
and "bug reports" come up over and over and over and over and
over and over again.  If there needs to be more frequent posting
and maintenance of the FAQ file, then I will even (gasp!)
volunteer to help with it.
--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
From: jboleman@ub.d.umn.edu (Jeffrey K. Boleman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Extra set of manuals for an HP48??
Date: 17 Dec 92 18:58:02 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ub.d.umn.edu

-To order replacement manuals, call (800)
 538-8787 between 6:00 am and 5:00 pm
 (Pacific time) Monday-Friday.


This was taken off an HP broschure.

Cheers, eh, :)

JB



p.s.

Hi MH!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: s2938931@vmsa.technion.ac.il
Subject: H E L P !!!!
Organization: Technion, Israel Institute of Technology
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 18:56:55 GMT

Hi all
------

I just wanted to know if an aerpspace eng. card exists to the hp48sx
PLEASE !!!  (I'm looking for it desperatlly)

Write to:

    S2938931@vmsa.technion.ac.il

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: snill@dhhalden.no (Tor Atle Lunde)
Subject: <--- need to know basics of machine code progr.
Organization: Ostfold College
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:20:34 GMT


	Hi!

	I have now had the hp48 for a while and i was thinking of moving on 
to the assembly programming area.  Since i've had a Commodore 64 (i still 
like it a LOT), i am familiar with 6502 (hmmmm) prosessor machine code.  
What i would like to know is this:

1)	Does one have the same access to each address in the RAM on the hp 
	as on the old 64 ????
2)	What compiling-programs does one usually use, and where can i get 
	it ???
3)	I'll most likely need a PC, but is there a similiar program to an 
	amiga ???

Thanks for any response.

	Tor Atle Lunde		email:	tnay@acacia.ccsd.uts.edu.au
				please mark subject .snill
From: bq099@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Juan C. Aguirre)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: This is how tough a HP48sx can be !!!
Date: 17 Dec 1992 23:20:49 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Too bad the HP48 isn't made here anymore.  Its made in
Singapore :(  
##
-- 
Juan Aguirre            Internet: ih26%utep@ricevm1.rice.edu
Electronic Engineering            bq099@cleveland.freenet.edu
student at The University of Texas at El Paso.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: pu001b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu ( pedro miguel ugalde)
Subject: ftp sites
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 08:01:29 GMT

hi does anyone know some or most ftp sites ?
please post them.


Organization: Senior, Mechanical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:35:01 -0500 
From: Kevin Michael Pogany <kp0w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: need downloading help

Greets,

    I am new to the HP world and thus have been struggling with some
downloading problems... 

    I tried to download the ascii file for asc-> and <-asc by following
the directions stated after the file... but everytime I try to download
it, I get an error invalid syntax on the last line, namely RPL_END and I
haven't got the slightest idea what is wrong... the term parameters were
correct and packets were being received so I am at a loss for a cause...

If someone could tell me what might be wrong... I'd greatly appreciate it...

thanx much...

-Kevin
From: doolin@hydra2a.cs.utk.edu (David Doolin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: vector program
Date: 11 Dec 1992 23:11:56 GMT
Organization: University of Tennessee, Knoxville - Department of Computer Science
Distribution: world
Reply-To: doolin@hydra2a.cs.utk.edu (David Doolin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hydra2a.cs.utk.edu


	Typically, when I read my own work I find mistakes.  On the vector 
program I posted 12/10/92, the argument explanation is weak and con-
fusing.

	After entering the "VECTOR.DIR", press the "BUILD" key.
This displays a menu that does the following:

key            command line              stack

"A->2"          1 2                    a: [ 1 2 ]
"B->2"          3 4                    b: [ 3 4 ]
"A->3"          1 2 3                  a: [ 1 2 3 ]
"B->3"          4 5 6                  b: [ 4 5 6 ]
"T->2"          1 2 x                  x: [ 1 2 ]
"T->3"          1 2 3 y                y: [ 1 2 3 ]

	Please mail questions or comments.  -- dmd
From: ee3pgh@castle.ed.ac.uk (Philip Holliman)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: printing programs with serial kit
Date: 14 Dec 92 10:36:07 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University


Has anyone managed to get these programs to work with any serial
printers. I'm talking about the two programs that come with the serial
interface kit (IBM PC).  Also I downloaded a terminal emulator program
(dte48), plugged my HP48 into a terminal point (through a dumb modem
(pins 1 and 7 straight through, 2 and 3 swapped)) and nothing much
happened.  
  

Philip Holliman
From: flavio@cflav.sublink.org (Flavio Casetta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: EQ Card, New Version
Date: 19 Dec 92 12:04:20 GMT
Organization: Flavio Casetta, Reg'd HP ISV & OEM of handheld computers.

From Joe Horn's article...

>    (13) BUGFIX.  The old card could run into problems if the solver had
>    to handle an equation containing functions defined in another
>    library.  (Case in point: it choked when the SmartROM was also
>    plugged in).  The new card solves this problem by checking for it
>    and giving the new error message "Keyword conflict" if necessary.
>

Which version of the SmartROM ?

Which Keyword ?

Which Function ?  (there are no functions in the SmartROM, only commands)


I early June 1991, I was contacted by Dr. Vogel (HP R&D responsible for the
EQ lib) because the SmartROM version 1:A beta release) conflicted with
the library of constants.

ForCALC (at that time Smart Technology) fixed the problem by changing the
name of conflicting keyword CONST to CONSTMAT.

After making that change a few ROMs version 1:A (corrected) were sold in Italy.

That's all.

*************
SmartROM current version is 1:C and there are no SmartROM 1:A around the world
(unless they have been pirated), because SmartROM 1:A never got into the 
US market. The first units shipped to EduCALC were versions 1:B.
*************
Amongst the registered users of the SmartROM nobody ever reported a conflict
with EQLIB.
************


Therefore I would be most grateful if you could provide me with a crashing 
example caused by the SmartROM, so that I can acknowledge the problem (if any).


Thanks,

Flavio


__
* flavio@cflav.sublink.org (Flavio Casetta)
 ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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From: akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Joseph K. Horn)
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 09:40:04 GMT
Subject: Re: Power of 2
Message-ID: <2b303db2.2338.4comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Keywords: log, program

flynn@sabrina.dei.unipd.it [Salvatore A. Colomba] writes:

> I have a better one [to test for a power of 2]; I've not tested it,
> but it should work in principle...
> << DUP LN 2 LN / IP 2 ^ - >>
> It should give zero only if the number is EXACTLY a power of
> two...:)

Doesn't work at all.  I assume you meant

  << DUP LN 2 LN / IP 2 SWAP ^ - >>

which usually works, but fails for 2^19, 2^24, 2^29, 2^34, and 2^39.
Replacing the LN's with LOG's fixes all these cases but then fails for
2^6, 2^8, 2^35 and 2^38.

Algorithms which work in principle often fail in practice due to
round-off errors.  Good hypotheses deserve the honor of being tested.

-jkh-

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: trk@palm15.cray.com (Tim Kirby)
Subject: Re: How do you insert between lines in program?
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:53:50 CST

Phoenix (twh18@isuvax.iastate.edu) wrote (a lot, including):
: However, I can't find anyway to break a long command line into
: 2 separte lines, nor insert something between 2 command lines.
: I looked through the PRG OBJ in detail ...

Ummm ... I think you're looking in the wrong place. If I understand you
correctly, I suggest you look in the index of the documentation for
references to newlines as generated by the "right shift" "." key.

Tim

--
Tim Kirby --------- Cray Research Inc., Eagan, MN, USA ----------- trk@cray.com
Disclaimer: I disclaim, therefore I am. Cray Research is not responsible for me,
my views or anything I say ............... They do, however, pay my mortgage ;-)
When all else fails, Immortality may always be assured by spectacular error(JKG)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: scotto@soto-next.Stanford.EDU (Scott Roy Atwood)
Subject: Modem
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 02:24:04 GMT

Hello,
    I recently acquired a terminal program, nrts version 0.7, for my HP48.   
I have a v.32bis modem, and I would like to hook it up to my calculator,  
so I can use the terminal program.  I have the cable that came with the  
modem, the cable the came with the Macintosh serial interface kit, and an  
A-B serial data switch.  At first I tried connecting them directly through  
the data switch, but that didn't work.  I think it is because the data  
recieve and data transmit lines are the reverse of what they need to be.   
Is there a simple solution to my problem, i.e. an adapter that I can put  
in between my current cables, or would I need to buy, or build a new  
cable?  If so where would I buy one, or how would I build one?

				Scott Atwood
				scotto@leland.stanford.edu

(sorry, I don't have a catchy signature line...yet anyways)
From: gshin@hertz.elee.calpoly.edu (George Shin)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: ioguide.doc - syntax error at line 692:'end of file' unexpected
Date: 15 Dec 92 04:35:17 GMT
Organization: California Polytechnic State University, San Luis Obispo

hello,

  i just ftped a file, ioguide.doc from hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com and followed
  the direction for 'sh'ing as

  % sh ioguide.doc

  and i get an error message as

  syntax error at line 692 : 'end of file' unexpected

  WHAT'S GOING ON?????!!!!!!

  i tryed both ascii and binary download and same results.....

  can anyone help me???

  if you can, try downloading the same file and follow the instruction
  and see if you get the same thing.....

  thanks everyone


  
   PARTY ON DUDES ..... :->     gshin @gauss.elee.calpoly.edu
                                       (129.65.26.104)
From: akcs.ejf@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (edward joseph fasula)
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:40:02 GMT
Subject: Kermit log session Command on 48?
Message-ID: <2b2a50af.2391comp.sys.hp48@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

I have connected a satelite tracker to my laptop via 9600 baud serial
port and logged the data as an ASCII file with the Kermit log session
command.  The HP seems to have all the gumption to do the same, but I
don't see such commands in the refrence material.  Any help with this
would be cool.

yah, finals are over...

From: akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Joseph K. Horn)
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 12:40:04 GMT
Subject: Re: XPURGE & SMARTROM
Message-ID: <2b2b2e9c.2381.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48

akcs.ejf@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com [edward joseph fasula] writes:

> A while ago I posted that my calculator was warm-booting at will
> since I installed SmartROM.  After a crash I quit using XPURGE and
> haven't had a problem yet.  Just thought I'd let you all know.  I'd
> like to use the XPURGE program but I don't program in SYS RPL and I
> have no idea why this has failed to work.  Since there was no
> response after my last posting I'll just assume there won't be a
> solution and stop posting if no one else has the same problem.

This ought to be explored, since both XPURGE and SmartROM are very
useful.  Nobody responded because nobody was able to reproduce your
experience.  Can you isolate the conditions under which SmartROM and
XPURGE conflict?  When I load and use both, they peacefully coexist.
A step-by-step description of a problematic scenario would help.

-jkh-
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: mcoffey@csws20.ic.sunysb.edu (Michael Coffey)
Subject: where to get one?
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 21:03:51 GMT

Hi!

     I am in the market to buy a hp48sx and I was wondering if anyone 
knows the best place to get one(I live in Long Island,NY) and what the best
price going is.  If possible E-mail me at mcoffey@libserv1.ic.sunysb.edu

                              Thank you,

                                  David Ringlen


Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: lorenzo@spot.Colorado.EDU (Eric Lorenzo)
Subject: Downloading help
Followup-To: poster
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:48:51 GMT

I will be receiving a HP48SX this holiday.  I've already explored the FTP site
at seq.uncwil.edu and found some programs that would be interesting to get.
I'm requesting help on how to get these programs off of my UNIX account and
into my HP48.  What steps are involved once the file is uncompressed and
sitting in my account?

Can I easily do this with my Mac?  I ask since there is both a Mac and an
IBM interface available.  If it's *not* possible at all, I can always bug
my friend for the use of his IBM.  Thanks much for any hepl I get!

Thanks for the time,
Eric
-- 
       --    O          The thrill is                   Eric J. Lorenzo
     ---   </\_      not just in winning,       lorenzo@Rintintin.Colorado.EDU
   ----  -\/\         but in the courage                  also @UCSU
      ---   /_         to join the race    -?               & @Spot
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: woodwrth@rtsg.mot.com (Simon J. Woodworth)
Subject: HP48SX price list
Keywords: HP48SX price lists add-ons accessories
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: US
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 12:29:39 GMT

Hi all,
   Please can someone send me a list of prices for the HP48SX,
printer, memory cards and accessories. I am thinking of picking
one up in Chicago in the new year so maybe someone could also
tell me where's the best place to buy one. Do Radio Shack sell
them?
   Please mail replies to the address in my .sig as I don't 
read this group very often. Thanks very much.
   Best wishes,
   Simon Woodworth.

-- 
=================================================================
Simon Woodworth.                |  woods@glas.rtsg.mot.com
Motorola (Ireland) Ltd.,        |  Don't blame my employers
Cork, Ireland.                  |  for anything I say! :-)
From: rmg53668@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Ryan M. Grant)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: Serial cable to 25-pin port???
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:53:40 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

slmdj@cc.usu.edu writes:

>This may be a rather dumb question, but here goes:
>I just got the cable for my HP (FREE offer :-) :-)) and had one major/minor
>question.  Since the PC end of the cable is a DB-9, and by mouse already takes
>up the only DB-9 serial port on my computer (COM 1) is there any problem with
>just getting one of those adaptors that allows you to hook up a 9 pin to a 25
>pin port?  It is rather a hassle to unload my mouse driver, remove the mouse,
>reboot the computer, and connect my serial cable :-(...  This (adaptor) would,
>in my opinion, be the easiest, simplest solution to the problem, but I would
>like to know if it will work _before_ I buy the adaptor

I bought the kit separatly years ago, but mine came with the 9 -> 25 adapter
you're speaking of, and it works fine.

- Ryan Grant
From: stevev@miser.uoregon.edu (Steve VanDevender)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: 48sx Manual question
Date: 18 Dec 92 00:08:41
Organization: University of Oregon Chemistry Stores
NNTP-Posting-Host: miser.uoregon.edu
In-reply-to: trk@palm15.cray.com's message of 17 Dec 92 21:58:06 CST

In article <1992Dec17.215806.24622@hemlock.cray.com>
trk@palm15.cray.com (Tim Kirby) writes:

   A quick (possibly dumb) question. I have seen several people
   refer to their "two volume manual" that came with their 48sx.
   I only seem to have one, called the "HP 48 Owner's Manual", HP
   part No. 00048-90091, Edition 1, November 1991.

   Was there a second printing ... or ... was I short manualed
   ... or is there another explanation

Sigh.  You have the updated, improved, single-volume HP 48
Owner's manual.  The manual printed previously was in two
volumes, part numbers 00048-90077 and 00048-90078.  Mine are
"Edition 4, July 1990".
--
Steve VanDevender 	stevev@greylady.uoregon.edu
"Bipedalism--an unrecognized disease affecting over 99% of the population.
Symptoms include lack of traffic sense, slow rate of travel, and the
classic, easily recognized behavior known as walking."
From: akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (Joseph K. Horn)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:40:03 GMT
Subject: Re: LIBRARY menu and key presses
Message-ID: <2b2edbc7.2364.1comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Keywords: library keys sch48

akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com [william j. levenson] writes:

> When this LIBRARY menu is active, the key actions of SCH48 are
> considerably slowed down....  I briefly looked at what happens when
> you go to the LIBRARY menu.  I decompiled the routine for that key
> sequence and nothing obvious jumped out at me.  I was wondering if
> any of you know wht would cause these effects.

The problem is not with SCH48 nor with the keyboard.  The delay is
simply the extra time required to update the display when the LIBRARY
menu is active, because it is a difficult menu to generate.

Most display updates require the menu line to be updated too, in case
any change in it is required.  Most menus update quickly (e.g. the
MATH menu) since they are constructed from built-in lists and are
constructed by merely barfing them onto the screen.  The VAR menu
takes a tad longer to construct, but not much, since it only needs to
look up the names of six vars.  The MODES menu has to do a tiny bit of
thinking (whether to put the little box in each menu item), but that
too is negligible.

The LIBRARY menu, however, takes a long time to generate, especially
if you have many libraries.  A few of the problems, I suppose, include
the fact that the LIBRARY menu always shows your libraries in ID
order, not memory location order (why? I dunno) so it can't just look
at six of them, as the VARS menu does.  Also, the libraries' "names"
as shown in the LIBRARY menu aren't really names at all, but are
extracted out of each library object itself, some of which do have
"names" and some which don't, and the 48 has to sort all this out.
Note well that this rigmarole happens not only when you press LIBRARY,
but *every* time the display updates while the LIBRARY menu is active.

Moral of the story: AVOID using the 48 with the LIBRARY menu showing!
It's intended only to be used to get to another menu, and not left
sitting in the display and clogging up the works.  Is this mentioned
in the Owner's Manual or anywhere else?  Of course not!  ;-)

-Joseph K. Horn-   -Peripheral Vision, Ltd.-
akcs.joehorn@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com
Disclaimer: I don't work for HP, EduCALC, or anybody else.

From: akcs.levenson@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com (william j. levenson)
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 19:40:01 GMT
Subject: Re: LIBRARY menu and key presses
Message-ID: <2b2f848c.2364.2comp.sys.hp48.1@hpcvbbs.cv.hp.com>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Keywords: library keys sch48

Thanks Joe, for your response to my querie regarding slowing down of
SCH48 when the LIBRARY menu is active.  Your explaination clears the fog
a little.  I have found a way around what you described, thanks to Detlef
Mueller, Mika Heiskanan, and Eric Naggum.

The solution is to make sure that when in the POL, that the HP48 knows
that it doesn't have to update the menu area at all.  In SCH48, the
display is completely handled by the POL.  This can be done in two ways
(maybe more???):

1)  Make sure the AppDisplay routine has a SetDA3NoCh, or

2)  Specify a NULL{} for the AppMenu routine (instead of FALSE, which I
had been using).  This tells the HP48 tht the POL has a menu tht it is
using and therefore, the HP48 does not process the menu stuff.  FALSE
just tells the HP48 to continue using the current menu.

Both solutins have the same effect.  (2) is a few nibles shorter in my
case.  As a side effect, whech demonstrates what Joe Horn whas saying, it
seems that SCH48 is faster no matter what menu is active.  But the big
difference is in the LIBRARY menu environment.  I will update SCH48 with
this change in the future.  The difference in speed is not that
considerable outside the LLIBRARY menu; SCH48 is pretty fast even with
the menu processing overhead.

Thanks again for the responses

Bill Levenson

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
From: fokd@aix.rpi.edu (Derek S. Fok - The one and only.)
Subject: Cable for HP48S.
Followup-To: arnolm2@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Distribution: comp.sys.hp48
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 05:24:07 GMT


My roommate wants me to post this:

He will be recieving an HP48S for Christmas.  He has been looking at all
the cool programs and stuff that are on the ftp sites and perusing the 
usenet groups, and he likes all of it.  He wants to get the cable to 
transfer stuff from his PC to the HP48S.

His question is:  Does he need to get the cable w/software, or will he
be alright in just getting the cable itself?  In other words, he doesn't
want to shell out the bucks for software he doesn't need, but he also 
doesn't want a cable that is useless without the software.

Please follow-up to: arnolm2@rpi.edu or post as he will read this group
when he comes back.

Thanks.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48
Subject: Re: hpcvbbs
From: Steve_Grant@kcbbs.gen.nz (Steve Grant)
Date: 20 Dec 92 01:09:28 GMT
Organization: Kappa Crucis Unix BBS, Auckland, New Zealand

Yep Greg, have that sused out now. Next question is downloading, but 
I have a few more things to try before I consider my self stuck in that 
respect. thanks.

    Steve

Newsgroups: comp.sys.hp48