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From: pbh@jake.cc.wayne.edu (Patrick Haggood)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: O.K., HOW ABOUT DOD MOUSE
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:12:01 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.1992Apr16.201201.11023
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit

In article <1992Apr16.160902.7043@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>> MICE???   WE DON' NEED NO STEENKEENG MICE!
>
>> Brr.  Anyone who's use a mouse would probably ride a motorcycle with an
>>automatic transmission.

What about 'The Mouse and the Motorcycle'?  Ralph would be
heartbroken....
-- 
"Again, the kingdom of heaven is like unto a net," | DoD #1966	
	Matthew 13:47                              | 81 Honda CB400T Hawk
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Jouster missing
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:01:53 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Acme Flamethrowers

Mail to John LaForge, last known address @ vitalink has been
bouncing.  Anyone know a good address for him?
	TIA,
	Paul

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      I just had my brain washed & now I can't do a thing with it.
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From: smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Question on restoring CB350F
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:35:55 GMT
Reply-To: smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Stuart Mennitt)
Organization: NavSurfWarCen, CarderockDiv (ex-"Taylor Model Basin")

In rec.motorcycles, v058l789@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Ethan A Bowerman) writes:
>There is a lot of whitish oxidation on the motor.  My question (well his
>actually) is "Is there any way to get rid of that stuff easily like with a
>solvent of somethin'"
>

Here's a procedure I have used to restore the cases on an 82 Virago
engine.  They weren't that bad, but the procedure should work for you.

If the cases have any old clearcoat on them, remove it using Permatex
gasket remover.  Use care, this stuff will disolve anything but metal.

I finished polishing the cases (after removing clearcoat) using Mothers
Mag & Aluminum Polish.  Gave them a thourough cleaning with acetone,
and then_sprayed on some high temperature engine enamel, clear, of course.
The clearcoat was applyed in three light coats, about 30 minutes apart
to allow for moderate drying.

Its been about 3 weeks of daily hot weather riding.  The cases, etc.
look excellent.  The clearcoat seems to be holding up well.

Tips:
-Use "high temp" paint for anything near the engine.
-When spraying the enamel on, have the piece near vertical.  The clearcoat
seems to dry smoother if the surface is vertical.
-Make sure the metal is extremely clean immediately before painting.
-Immediately after painting, cover the piece with a chunk of cardboard
supported by 2x4's or whatever to prevent dust from settling on it before
the paint dries.

Note:  The aluminum pieces are their_shiniest just prior to applying
the clearcoat.  The clear enamel seems to dull the finish slightly.
I consider it worth it because without the clearcoat, the aluminum would
tarnish rapidly.



]~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~[
]                     Stu Mennitt                     [
]     David Taylor Research Center, Bethesda, MD      [
]       (But, of course, I live in Virginia)          [
]             smennitt@oasys.dt.navy.mil              [
]        ** My DOD is bigger than your DoD **         [
]                                                     [
]    '82 XV920 Virago             AMA #538212         [
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: david@hawkesbury.uws.EDU.AU (David Watkin)
Subject: re: What to call a harley
Organization: University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 23:40:42 GMT

Well jap bikes are rice burners ore jap s**t.
Harleys are called the best things on two wheels, wasnt that easy. Ha!
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: tedg@apollo.HP.COM (Ted Grzesik)
Subject: YZ250 pops out of 1st gear
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Chelmsford, MA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:53:10 GMT

I have a quick question about an '86 YZ250.  My friend and I are going to
look at this bike Friday night.  The owner told us that it pops out of 1st
gear (i.e. won't stay in 1st).

Can anyone give me clues as to what the problem might be?  Is it the shift
forks, drum, or something else?  That way, we can decide if the bike is worth buying.  Also, are there any major defects or problems people have had 
with this model year?

	Thanks,
	Ted
-- 
Ted Grzesik       Massachusetts Language Lab             Hewlett-Packard Company
tedg@apollo.hp.com                                Chelmsford, MA  (508) 436-5959
"Contrariwise", continued Tweedledee, "If it was so, it might be; 
and if it were so, it would be; but as it isn't, it ain't.  That's logic."
                                        -- Lewis Carroll
From: chrisp@tatanka.wr.tek.com (Chris Perez)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: An apology, and a change of .sig
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:21:26 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc

In article <1272@adpplz.UUCP> martin@adpgate.UUCP (Martin Golding) writes:

>I have a long, sad tale to tell of Martin "No Harley Yet :{(" Golding,
>a silly old fool who spent all his savings on trinkets and gizmos and
>somehow lost his dream by the wayside.
[...]
>So here I am, after only a year on the net, broke, my garage stuffed full
>of lesser breeds, with neither cash nor room for my dreambike, which seems
>more and more impossible every day. Log off now, don't let this happen
>to you!

WAIT!  "Lesser breeds?"  What means this?  You've ridden Harleys.  You've
ridden BMWs.  You've ridden Oriental whirring blenders.  Now, tell these
poor folks that little story of my nabbing after JigglesII.  Tell them
about "the ride" that stole your heart forever.  Or at least the rest of
that week.  I dare you.  Then tell me with a straight face that "the ride"
as aboard a "lesser breed".  8-) 8-) [Duke smile]

>So why can't I stop smiling?

Go ahead.  Spill it on the net.  The story isn't finished yet.  This
oughta be fun... (It's really quite simple.  It's a story about greed,
corruption, and lotsa fun with someone else's mistress)

>Martin (no middle name) Golding

"What's that sound, dad?"                    	 Christopher "Groucho" Perez
"Ducatis running wide open in my mind..."        chrisp@amadeus.WR.TEK.COM
"Dad, you're weird!"

PS: Martin GAVE me this middle name.  I think he'll be getting another middle
    name soon enough.  There's plenty more where this one came from.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com (BlackJack)
Subject: Re: Help! Repair / Junk it Advice needed!
Reply-To: jackr@thorodin.dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Dazix
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 16:21:46 GMT

In article <odsDujG00WBNE8TtIL@andrew.cmu.edu>, John Robert Nadzam <jn1h+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
> Hey Yeah,
> 
> my advice to you, roll up the sleves and dig in. If/when you get it
> runnign again you will have supreme self satisfaction, ( I did when I
> finished rebuilding my 78 Hawk) and what happened to that bike will
> never ecer happen to any other bike you own, because you will never let
> it happen again after seeing what it does to you/you bike. And like
> the.sig sez
> 
> NADZ
> DoD#528
> 
> REAL men do thier own work on thier bikes.
              ^^^^^             ^^^^^

I guess only sissies know how to spell.
From: osborn@cs.utexas.edu (John Howard Osborn)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Question on Harley Extended Warranty
Date: 17 Apr 1992 12:29:09 -0500
Organization: U Texas Dept of Computer Sciences, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

In article <1992Apr17.153601.18182@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:
>Another way of looking at it is that BMW brags about their 3 year
>warranty. For less than the price of a Beemer I got a 4 year warranty,
>and FJ torque too!

Just as a point of trivia, my understanding is that BMW only has
a one year warranty in Europe.  (In other words, the 3 year version
is something that BMWNA came up with.)

-
-John H. Osborn
-osborn@cs.utexas.edu
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: LEAKING OIL
From: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Date: 13 Apr 92 12:38:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.williams@chaos.lrk.ar.us (Dave Williams) 
Distribution: world
Organization: The Courts of Chaos * Jacksonville AR USA * 501-985-0059

-> Question:  Can I let it go?  Do the leaks relieve sufficient pressure
-> so it won't get worse?  Is the oil that is getting out depriving some
-> critical components of lubrication?

 If you're willing to live with the mess, let it go.  I had a KZ400 that
wept oil around the head, and my wife's CB650 will drool enough to coat
the side of the engine after a few hours, but at less than a quart of
oil every two months, I can live without the hassle of removing the
engine from the chassis to get the head off.
From: moseley@milton.u.washington.edu (Steve Moseley)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Jump start with car? DONT DO IT !!!!!!
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:45:43 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

In article <F5uaJB2w164w@ham> ham!emd@oneb.wimsey.bc.ca writes:
>
>Not so fast, Steve. Current depends on both the amount of electromotive 

[stuff here deleted that doesn't really contradict anything I said]

>You weren't entirely incorrect, though. There is little difference 
>to the bike whether you connect it to a bike battery or a car battery, 
>except that the car battery can supply current for a much longer time. 
>(Naturally, this assumes the car engine is OFF). There may be a 
>signifigant difference to the bike battery, though, if you suddenly start 
>to charge it at a very high rate by having it connected in parallel with 
>a car battery. It's certainly safer to re-charge the battery in the bike.

OK, the original question was if jump starting with a car would hurt the
bike, and I still say no, whether the car is running or not. It is true
that if the battery is REALLY DEAD, it can draw enough current to warp the
plates, so you can potentially hurt the battery, but if it was THAT DEAD,
it was beyond hope anyway, and can't hold a charge. Now the comment about
battery explosions is very well taken, and appropriate precautions against
that possibility should always be taken. Another potential problem: if
your bike is dead because of a short somewhere, it is true that jump
starting with a car will push a lot more current through that short and
probably do some damage. This will of course be worse with the car running.
But in the usual case of a weak battery not being able to turn over an
otherwise electrically healthy bike, there will be no problem jump
starting with a car. Use the above advice at your own risk :-)

 - Steve
DoD # 1951, COG, HOG, AMA
                 ^^^
(Oh yeah, if we're talking about an old Panhead, "jump start" has an
entirely different connotation. It's my regular aerobic exercise.)
From: shz@garage.att.com (Seth Zirin)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Meta-flame, etc...
Date: 6 Apr 92 16:56:21 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Me, Myself and I

In article <1992Apr03.195815.2847121@locus.com>, dana@locus.com (Dana H. Myers) writes:
> I have owned several Japanese motorcycles, and always purchased tires
> for them regardless of the country of origin.

I also have owned several Japanese motorcycles.

>    It seems to me you are the bigot worried about where your tires came
> from. So closed minded and insecure. I hope your big, throbbing Harley
> helps you overcome your tiny-dick syndrome. I *like* Harleys, but I don't
> *need* them to make me feel macho. I don't need to slam the products of
> other countries to feel good about my country.

I was responding to someone that felt the need to slam Harleys because
some of the parts are imported and I really don't care where my tires
come from.  Although I do enjoy my big throbbing Harley, I do not ride
it to overcome a small dick syndrome.  My penis is of average size and
is not of perceptible concern to me, thanks.  The receding hairline is
more worrisome but I can live with that also.  If you're looking for
insecurity, look no further than those who list their model number at the 
end of each posted article and that brag about how their cycle is the 
fastest thing on two wheels.

My criticism of imported products is not intended to make me feel good
about the US.  I am worried about the future of our country and the
continued erosion of our automotive industry is of paramount concern to me.
The US manufactured content of Harleys and US autos decreases each year 
because US parts makers cannot make parts that are competitively priced
with their higher volume Japanese counterparts.  Japanese cycle and auto
manufacturers refuse to use US made parts on the vehicles they assemble
in this country just like they refuse to buy US rice, golf clubs, meat,
etc.

The root of the problem is our leadership in Washington and at the tops
of major corporations.  Washington needs to get tough with countries
that don't practice free trade and corporate management needs to look
further than their own annual salaries.

I wouldn't enjoy my Harley any more if it had US made forks, gauges
and brake rotors, but I'd be a hell of a lot happier if Honda and Toyota
were wholly owned US companies...

Seth Zirin
From: hur@sppy00.UUCP (Matt Hur)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: V45 Magna Question
Keywords: Honda, Magna, Buy
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:00:04 GMT
Reply-To: hur@sppy00.UUCP (Matt Hur)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Online Computer Library Center, Dublin, Ohio.

In article <1992Apr6.151351.9010@cbnewsl.cb.att.com> kstell@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (kevin.l.stell) writes:

>I have been bitten by the V45 Magna bug..say early to mid 80's. I once again
>must congure up the demons of the net for its wisdom:
>
>Wanted info:
>
>	price range for 83-86 v45 magna.
 about $700-$1700 is what I would pay
>
>	maintainence info, include problems, know pitfalls
 cam problems - I've been told that the cams were poorly made (soft)
 I've also heard that it may be a problem w/ getting oil to the cams
 it will cost about $1000 to replace the cams
 Don Gibb or Robyn Landers ought to be able to provide some info - well guys?
>
>	Strong points? weak ones? any one giving one away?
 other than the cams, I hear that they're pretty reliable
>
>	Any personal opinions are welcome...
 looks good, sounds good, quick
>
>
>Thanks ole great net for your wisdom and guidence...(hip boot off mode: ON ) 
you're welcome
>
>
>Kevin

Matt

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       #209           hur@osu-cis!colnet!sppy00 (might work)
FJ1200,CB900C,CX650C  hur@sppy00.UUCP (rarely works)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bmatthew@umbc5.umbc.edu (Bud Matthews)
Subject: How does a dyno work?
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 22:31:17 GMT


O.K., second try.  How does a rear wheel dyno get a HP estimate
from that roller?  Is there some sort of resistance gradient that is
being overcome by the rear wheel?  What, exactly, is getting measured?
How is HP at a given RPM estimated?

The dyno at Summit Point outputted info to a computer screen, suggesting
some fast and fancy calculating was going on (but maybe not).  Makes me
wonder how HP was measured in the old days, for a 1932 Ford, for example.
Anybody know?


-- 
Bud Matthews				1990 Low Rider
Department of Sociology			HOG#0411931
University of MD, Baltimore County	AMA#571307
Standard disclaimers apply.
From: odin@cats.ucsc.edu (Jon Granrose)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Where to buy dual Fiamm horns?
Date: 8 Apr 92 03:33:09 GMT


druth@erg.sri.com (Doug Ruth) writes:

>Anyone have suggestions as to where I can buy a set of BLACK (not CHROME)
>dual Fiamm horns?  I've checked local shops as well as mail-order
>(Competition Accessories) and can only find chrome versions.  Now if I
>had a Harley I might consider the chrome ones :-), but they just don't
>look right on my R100GS/PD.  The folks at Competition Accessories said
>that as of '92 they can only get the chrome ones.  Any pointers in the
>right direction are appreciated.

In the April '92 Motorcyclist there is a compendium of "Streetwise" tips
from the last year.  On the second page there is one dealing with Fiamms.
Reproduced without permission:

	More Fiamms Found

	   Go to your local junkyard and look for
	'60s to '80s Fiat 124 sprts coupes and
	Spyders (they call them Spyder 2000s
	nowadays).  Nestled somewhere under
	the hood you will find a Fiamm horn.
	   These units have metal trumpets and
	are extremely rugged; the compressor is
	easily disassembled and cleaned.  The
	pitch can be varied by screwing the
	trumpet in and out.  However, if you
	screw the trumpet too far in, it will
	rupture the internal diaphragm and your
	horn will become 25 cents' worth of
	aluminum scrap.  Fiamms were tuned at
	the factory and have a very distinctive
	sound.  My set is over 20 years old and
	cost me about $10 and an hour with a
	wire brush, lube and spray primer.

There you have it.  I haven't had time to try to put this
to the test so I can't comment on the color of the horns.
However, from the sound of the article, they're easily
repaintable to whatever neon camoflage shade you desire.
Cuz after all, they gotta match your Vuarnets, dude.


Keep the rubber side down.

Jon
-- 
 _____________________________________________________________________________
|Jon Granrose        |ARPA: odin@ucscb.UCSC.EDU    '84 VF500F pilot|  // Only |
|Cowell College, UCSC|      odin@cats.ucsc.edu      DoD #097       |\X/ Amiga!|
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: pattersw@turing.cs.rpi.edu (William Patterson)
Subject: Re: What *ARE* cruisers good for?
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute Computer Science, Troy NY
Distribution: rec.motorcycles
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 14:18:18 GMT


I have an '88 Shadow 800.  I love it.

The bike loves anything paved.  I stay away from dirt roads because I
don't like to deal with the odd traction (plus I don't want rocks
kicked up into the chrome).

The seat is comfy, and you can get great aftermarket seats if you want
it even more comfy.  Carries lots of gear or a second person with
ease.  Redlines at 7000, and I usually have it at about 3000 while
cruising (lots of torque).  Some people complain about the upright (in
the wind) riding position, but I've found it's never a factor until
you start to get up above 70mph (I know, 70 is baby speed to squids;
but cruisers are designed for different purposes than sportbikes.  If
it's speed you want, get a sportbike.).


--Bill

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.motorcycles.racing
From: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Subject: Re: Helmet Reccomendations
Reply-To: grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 15:06:19 GMT

In article <jachies@fido.asd.sgi.com> spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer) writes:
> grw@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Gary Wasserman) says:
> >
> >General advice: My observation is that motorcyclists wearing white
> >helmets are more visible and are visible farther than motorcyclists
> >with darker or colored helmets.  The AGV is white with red/blue graphics.
> >Stick with white.
> 
> I find it a lot easier to buy whatever color I like, or can get a good
> price on, or matches my bike; and then put retroreflective Conspicuity
> stickers on it. Much more visible than a white helmet, especially at
> night.
> 
> (Of course, I haven't gotten around to it on my now-two-years-old
> bright red System II, but I plan to.... someday.....)
> 

I beg to differ, Paul.  You may be a nice guy but when it comes to
human visual perception you are obviously an ignorant slut.  

Your retroreflective strips actually camouflage you as you move
away from the viewer.  Because they are bright and reflective they
lower the contrast between your helmet and the surrounding bright
areas making you less noticable at a distance.  At night of course
they INCREASE contrast by reflecting light from headlights.

The observation that white helmets are more visible at a
distance is one I have personally confirmed over and over
again.  I'm not sure about the explanation.  Perhaps one of the
real human visual perception gurus on the net can help us out.

Paul, your red helmet is only effective as a visibility aid at
short distances in good lighting conditions.  Of course it makes
you look cool, but does it get you noticed?  I think not.

-Gary

-- 
Gary Wasserman      "A completely irrational attraction to BMW bikes"
Interleaf, Inc.      Prospect Place, 9 Hillside Ave, Waltham, MA 02154
grw@ileaf.com        617-290-4990x3423 FAX 617-290-4970       DoD#0216
Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:12321 rec.bicycles:8723
From: ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mark Joseph Andy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.bicycles
Subject: THIS IS NOT REC.BICYCLES!!!!
Date: 7 Apr 92 07:09:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.IdsIeOC00VAtFD8v4M
Organization: Senior, Electrical and Computer Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Howdy,

Please take all the various posts for bicycle related stuff off
rec.motorcycles.

Unless you're bolting an FZR1000 motor into your Cannodale frame, most
of us here at rec.mc really don't care...

Mark

| Mark J. Andy			WERA NV #813		DoD #813	|
| ma1w+@andrew.cmu.edu		AMA/CCS AM #811		AMA #700560	|
| Co-founder/Rider, Team RISC and Two Geeks Racing			|
| '82 Seca 650 (street), '85 RZ350 (track), '78 KM100 (commute-in-snow)	|
| I want RZ350 parts like steering damper, fork brace, exhaust, etc...  |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU (Michael Johnson)
Subject: Re: What *ARE* cruisers good for?
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: rec.motorcycles
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 19:14:11 GMT

In article <6m8t3_q@rpi.edu> pattersw@turing.cs.rpi.edu (William Patterson) writes:
>
>I have an '88 Shadow 800.  I love it.
>
>The bike loves anything paved.  I stay away from dirt roads because I
>don't like to deal with the odd traction (plus I don't want rocks
>kicked up into the chrome).
>
>The seat is comfy, and you can get great aftermarket seats if you want
>it even more comfy.  Carries lots of gear or a second person with
>ease.  Redlines at 7000, and I usually have it at about 3000 while
>cruising (lots of torque).  Some people complain about the upright (in
>the wind) riding position, but I've found it's never a factor until
>you start to get up above 70mph (I know, 70 is baby speed to squids;
>but cruisers are designed for different purposes than sportbikes.  If
>it's speed you want, get a sportbike.).
>

Cruisers are also available with true state of the art engines.  For
example the V-max and the Honda V-65 (no longer made, but a lot of
used ones around).  If you want a fast bike and do not like to hug
the gas tank while you are riding you might wish to check these.

My V-65 Magna is fine on paved road and gravel roads.  I have to be a
little carefull on dirt roads with no gravel.  However, it is not
very good on trails or less.

I ride the Magna to work, on weekend rides, and on longer trips.
Never done more than 800 miles in a single day but it was just
a comfortable on the 800th mile as it was on the first.  How many
people can say that about a "sport bike"?


--
(804)-924-8607                   Michael L. Johnson
mlj8e@mljsg.pharm.Virginia.EDU   Pharmacology Dept.
mlj8e@Virginia.BITNET            Box 448; Univ. of Va.  
mlj8e@Virginia.EDU               Charlottesville, Va. 22908