HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jogroup@chemdept.chem.ncsu.edu (JO Group)
Subject: Re: Episodes/explainations lists
Summary: Here is one, more to be gotten
Organization: Chemistry Department, North Carolina State University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 21:20:57 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.194109.12055@cs.wisc.edu> steve@picard.cs.wisc.edu (Steven Glinberg) writes:

Very nice episode list.  This will be helpful for people to have so that 
can include the episode name in dicussions.

I almost left it at this BUT (I'm sorry)  Work like this is diminished
by spelling and format problems.  An occasional typo is fine, but
I think that the characters names should be spelled correctly,
Also some news readers only allow a set number of characters per line before
the line goes off viewer.  This can be a problem with printing options that
only do a screen dump.  

I realize how much work went into this and I apologize for picking nits.

>Dr. Sung, Troy, Warf, Luaxana, Jordi


Now for a serious flame :-)
>Family		Picard returns home, must decide about staying in Starfleet
you rate Family a 1 out of 5

ex-squeeze me, baking powder

Do you really think this was of the same "quality" and Cost of Living

Well just my 0.02$ worth
From: jcm3r@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Spaceman SPiff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Why San Francisco?
Date: 7 Sep 92 22:51:18 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <14897@mindlink.bc.ca> Laura_Halliday@mindlink.bc.ca (Laura Halliday) writes:
>
>I personally find San Francisco to be an illogical (if delightful) choice.
>Starfleet is clearly derived from 20th century organizations, so how did
>Starfleet's headquarters get so far away from New York (U.N.) or Houston and/or
>Cape Canaveral (NASA)?
>
>...laura
  Wasn't the UN founded in San Fancisco?

--
John C. Martin
 University of Virginia, Astrophysics; CLAS II
 jcm3r@faraday.clas.virginia.edu
From: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu (Michael Rawdon)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: PAD
Date: 10 Sep 92 01:06:40 GMT
Reply-To: rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
Organization: University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Dept., Madison, WI

In <9SEP199216565141@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov> afdenis@lims01.lerc.nasa.gov (Stephen Dennison) writes:
>In article <rawdon.715618156@cs.wisc.edu>, rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu writes...
>>In <65270@cup.portal.com> Peter_A_David@cup.portal.com writes:
>>>I dunno.  I heard Peter David hates everybody.

>>I heard he has a crummy sense of humor, too.

>Hell, thst's nothing. *I* hear his father's a Borg ! (Reliable source, too 
>though I can't cite it... they'd have to kill me ! :-))

We could arrange that. :-)

-- 
Michael Rawdon				 rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu
University of Wisconsin Computer Sciences Department, Madison, WI

"Go?  Where are we going?"
"Where they went."
"Suppose they went nowhere?"
"Then, this will be your big chance to get away from it all."
			- McCoy and Kirk; Star Trek II: The Wrath Of Khan
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From: mwp@ms9.mis.semi.harris.com (Mark W. Poole)
Subject: Explanation of Inner Light
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 17:14:34 GMT
Organization: Harris Semiconductor, Melbourne FL

I just saw "Inner Light" for the first time this weekend, and
really got lost at the end.  I didn't understand how Pickard's
wife and friend could all of a sudden show up at the end, just
as the missile was being launched....and what happened to 
Pickard's character on the planet after he returned to
consiousness on the Enterprise?  It really threw me.

Can someone please explain this to me or direct me to a 
ftp site with "episode explanations".

Thanks,

Mark.
From: rblewitt@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Richard Blewitt)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: TNG Special effects (Was: Was TOS really that bad?)
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:55:15 GMT
Organization: University of California, San Diego

In article <15111@mindlink.bc.ca> Jeremy_Reimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeremy Reimer) writes:

>BTW, I think the TOS ship looked like a cheap model.  The best ship on TV has
>to be that cool green Romulan warbird in TNG.

I agree the TOS ship looks cheap and cheezy by today's standards.
The new Enterprise looks cool.  The Romulan ship was good when they
first introduced it, but is not so spectacular now that I'm uesd to
it.  My vote for best ship is the Vorlon ship from Babylon 5.  If you
have a chance to see the preview clip that some of the B5 people are
showing, do so, otherwise wait till Feb.

Rick

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From: ccspjs@gdr.bath.ac.uk (Pete J Suters)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Mr Scott in TOS
Date: 7 Sep 92 08:01:14 GMT
Organization: Bath University Computing Services, UK

OK, so far there have been two episodes of TOS rerun in Britain,
but no sign of Scotty yet.  Does he come into the series as a
character a bit later on?  I'm mystified, as on the episode
"Charlie X", I'm sure I saw him on the Bridge as an extra, sitting
at the engineering console!!
  Or perhaps my eyes were decieving me.....

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From: tgh3_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Timothy Gerald Harrnacker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Data's cat
Date: 12 Sep 92 18:44:19 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Sep12.161202.29473@ERA.COM> paradis@ERA.COM (Lisa Berkenbilt) writes:

>I'm trying to get some info on Data's cat.  I have seen the pretty
>kitty in the episodes In Theory and Data's Day.  Is she in any other
>episodes?? When did she first show up?? How did he get the cat in the
>first place??  Why is she named Spot (or is there more to the name
>than that)??
Listen closer. SPOCK!

>I appreciate the info.

>BTW, who's taking care of his cat while he's playing in the 19C?? :-)

>--Lisa

>-- 
>--Lisa Berkenbilt
>Engineering Research Associates, Vienna, VA USA
>paradis@ERA.COM                           
>				PICARD/RIKER '92
From: mangler@madnix.uucp (Brian LaRose)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: warp drive and other 10-step scales (silly)
Summary: Slightly different scale...
Date: 6 Sep 92 15:00:40 GMT
Organization: ARP Software

Well, MY warp scale is slightly different...
 
Below 15 MPH is Maneuvering Thrusters
15 Begins Impulse Drive
20 is 1/4 Impulse,  25 is 1/2 Impulse, 30 is 3/4 Impulse
35 is Warp 1, and every 5 MPH over that is another Warp. So...
40=Warp 2, 45=Warp 3, 50=Warp 4 and 55 is convienently Warp 5...
 
'course, by this scale I have broken Warp 12, but it works well for lower
speeds... impulse drive is Star Systems (Cities), warp out of the cities...
thrusters for when the spedometer isn't reliable anyway...
 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
The Mangler - Brian La Rose            Mangler1 (America On-Line)
          mangler1@aol.com (Internet)  76366,2114 (CI$)
 "...if I'm cut, I will always bleed 6 colors..."-Guy Kawasaki
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: naked time and naked now
Date: 12 Sep 92 04:23:35 GMT
Reply-To: dave@cs.arizona.edu (Dave Schaumann)
Organization: University of Arizona

In article <95827@bu.edu>, jstravis@bass (John Travis) writes:
[in comparing TOS:"The Naked Time" to TNG:"The Naked Now"]
>Seeing how much TNG drew from TOS was very interesting. I enjoyed the
>TOS episode, but it was just silly all the time. I found the TNG
>episode hilarious. While there was physical humor also, they did
>include a lot of subtle looks and actions that made me crack up.
>Picard and Crusher were outrageous together! All in all, quite
>a fun evening for what was expected to be a boring Friday night
>alone.
>
>Which one did others like better?

Well, TNT is somewhere in the middle for me.  Not great, but not
awful, either.

I was really disappointed when I first saw TNN.  It was an obvious
rip-off of TNT, and I was hoping to see a show as original in its
own way as TOS was.  It felt like a major cop-out.

In retrospect, it's not that bad, but it was a mistake to make it the
second episode of the show.  The interest of the plot is to see the
characters acting without inhibitions, revealing part of their "inner
selves".  Coming as it did at the beginning of the season, the
characters weren't familiar to us, so any "inner revelations" weren't
as powerful as they could've been later on.  Also, the characters
were not yet well-established, so the writers didn't want to have the
characters do anything they'd end up writing out later.

-- 
Caught an internal error--.brainrc restored
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Subject: Re: ST: TNG- The Next Phase
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Wed, 09 Sep 92 16:19:32 PDT
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

goldberg@nssdca.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patti Twigg) writes:

> Hi. Not meaning to start a discussion already done to death,
> but, over the weekend I was watching this episode with my
> 6 year old daughter. About half way through she turns to me
> and says, 'but mommy, why don't they just fall through the
> floor?'. After having read all the discussion when the episode
> first aired, I almost fell through the floor laughing. 8-)
> 
>                                           Patti Twigg

Very perceptive for a 6 year old.  You have yourself a budding
Treknoligist there.  :)


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"Do you want to argue with a can of deodorant that registers
NINE on the Richter scale?"        --Ace, in "Dragonfire"
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From: obrien@netcom.com (Robert O'Brien)
Subject: Re: Premiere explicitly scheduled
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 92 07:36:26 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Summary: Geez! what a bunch of jerk replies!!
Keywords: _Time's_Arrow_II_ or maybe _Fruit's_Bananna_ ??          stealth.sig

That's about enough!  I was providing an EXAMPLE.

I *did not* imply that any other station would schedule the same minute, 
nor comment about whether I would see it before you.  I will, however, have
an opportunity to watch it as it downlinks.  Do I *care* that much?  NO!

So back off, watch it when you get it, and just take my message as one data
point indicating a high probability that the scheduled down link will take
place, and there won't be any unanticipated delays.

There's just enough ingnorant and/or ungrateful jerks on this net that jump
on any imagined lame comment that I doubt I'll contribute in the future.  
Those of you in the respectful silent category that may have appreciated
what I had to offer: sorry, as often happens, some jerks ruined it for you.
Xref: sparky rec.arts.startrek.current:13120 rec.arts.startrek.misc:9296 rec.arts.startrek.tech:4925 rec.arts.startrek.fandom:1368
From: arnold@apollo.hp.com (Ken Arnold)
Subject: Re: Deep Space Nine News
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 21:57:12 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <8TiFqB2w165w@memalph.UUCP> system@memalph.UUCP (Woody Harper) writes:
>JADZIA DAX: Science Officer.  A Trill, which is an insectoid symbiont
>inhabiting a humanoid host.  Odon in "The Host" was a Trill.  This
>particular Trill is currently inhabiting a young, very attractive
>female host.  The symbiont lives about four times as long as its hosts
>generally do, so one Trill will have several hosts in its lifetime.
>...  Meanwhile, the Trill symbiont is a rather cold personality with
>little use for sex, so when it's in control it's not very interested
>in a "relationship."  However, the host's biochemistry can override
>the symbiont's desires, so every now and again Jadzia's emotions get
>the better of her, despite the symbiont's best efforts to the
>contrary.

This will be a *hellaciously* hard part to act well (assuming, of course,
it is at all well written).  I hope they have an excellent actor -- I'll
give up any amount of "young, very atractive" if this is acted well.

		Ken
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From: vicki@steam.atd.ucar.edu (Vicki Holzhauer)
Subject: Re: The Borg are here!!!
Organization: Atmospheric Technology Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:55:49 GMT


Here in Boulder there is a company called "Borg Engineering."  Every
once in a while I find myself at a traffic light next to one of their
panel trucks and let out a little gasp.  Wonder if any of the people
who own the place or work there watch TNG?  :-)



--
Vicki Holzhauer, National Center for Atmospheric Research
Boulder, Colorado / / / /  vicki@ncar.ucar.edu
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From: lita@next05pg2.wam.umd.edu (Lisa Helene Helfman)
Subject: CORRECT Star Trek Exhibit Information
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 00:53:37 GMT

The following has been posted by a part-time staff member at the National  
Air and Space Museum's "Star Trek: The Exhibition".  Any previous  
information released by volunteers or visitors may or may not be correct.   
We cannot be held responsible for any misinformation circulating around  
the world regarding this exhibit.

-The exhibit will close JANUARY 31, 1993.

-The exhibit is a retrospective of the television series STAR TREK and the  
1960s.  It includes a self-guided, walk-through display of materials from  
the show and a 28 minute documentary. 

-We have on display: Capt. Kirk's uniform, Mr. Spock's ears, tribbles,  
tricorders, original scripts, commentary, photos and lots more!

-The exhibition is open every day (except Christmas) from 10:00am to  
5:20pm.  Museum hours are 9:45am-5:30pm.

-Passes are required for admission.  FREE, SAME DAY PASSES are available  
on a first-come, first-served basis at the Exhibition Pass Desk located in  
the Museum's South Lobby.  Pass distribution begins at 9:45am.  The line  
for passes forms in morning on the INDEPENDENCE AVENUE SIDE OF THE  
BUILDING.  Free same-day passes are available ONLY at the National Air and  
Space Museum and are limited to four per person.  

-The passes are used for crowd control.  There are times printed on each  
pass.  You may enter the exhibit at the time which is printed on your  
pass.  When you come to our pass desk, we hand you the earliest time  
available.  If you'd like a later time, just ask!
	
-The last pass time for the day is 4:30pm.  
	
-It takes about an hour to see the entire exhibit.

-ADVANCED PASSES are available ONLY through TicketMaster.  A $2.50  
convenience charge will be charged by the company for each pass obtained  
at a TicketMaster OUTLET.  Passes are also available through the company's  
nationwide PhoneCharge service for a convenience charge of $3.50 per pass.   
A $1.00 handling fee will be added to each PhoneCharge order.  Each order  
is limited to FOUR passes.
	PhoneCharge orders must be placed 10 days in advance of the 	 
	planned visit.  PhoneCharge may be called between 10:00am and 	 
	9:00pm seven days a week:

		Washington, DC 		202-432-SEAT/432-7328
		Baltimore, MD 		410-481-SEAT/481-7328
		Outside Metro Area	1-800-551-SEAT/551-7328

-We regret that no group reservations can be made for this exhibition.

-A very good audio tour is available to rent at the Museum for this  
exhibit.  It is narrated by William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy.  There is a  
range of rental fees with individual and family rates.  The audio tour is  
OPTIONAL.  You do not need to rent it to enjoy the exhibit.

-If you would like to volunteer at the exhibit, please call us at  
202-786-2110.  Leave a message on the tape.

***Come visit us before January 31, 1993.  This exhibit will not travel!   
Washington, DC is the only place to see it!!!
				Jennifer Helfman
				Gallery Supervisor
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Subject: Re: _War_Drums_ Review: *SPOILERS*
From: <WITHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Tuesday, 8 Sep 1992 02:37:01 EDT
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

In article <rccarm00.715891635@mik.uky.edu>, rccarm00@mik.uky.edu (ron c carman)
says:
>   Another month, another ST novel.  I have no idea how
>Pocket Books went wrong with its series of books, but
>when is not hard to determine...
>
>*SPOILERS* for John Vornholt's novel _War_Drums_
>
>Trek novels in general and John Vornholt's books
>in particular continue to deteriorate... last chance!
>
>
>   Well, the best one-word description of this one would have to
>be: DUH; or if you need a real word, questionable works well.
>   Vornholt seems to have developed a talent for stating the
>obvious.  For example:  Before beaming down to Selva to see
>the Klingon whom the colonists have managed to capture, we see
>Picard tell Data to memorize the coordinates of the prisoner,
>in case the colonists have mistreated him, and a rescue is
>necessary.  Then, when the landing party is about to see the
>prisoner, we get this:
>
>         As Oscaras reached for the heavy bolt that locked
>        the door Deanna saw Captain Picard and Data exchange
>        glances, and Data nodded slightly.  The android must
>        have been given a secret order, she knew immediately.
>
>Come on.  Don't insult our intelligence.
>   I also have a real problem with the scenes given to Guinan.
>I will admit that she is a hard character to treat justly, but
>her dialogue is absolutely awful... "I have a feeling that
>you're desperately needed down there"... ugh.
>   Those of you who are such fans of the old "tacked on menace"
>will be sorry to note that one is present here; indeed, Vornholt
>seems to have taken lessons from the people who came up with
>the one for "Cost of Living" ;-).  With an away team on the planet,
>the Enterprise is called away for an emergency *mapping* mission.
>Two races apparently had to have their solar system mapped in
>order to begin peace negotiations...
>
>   All in all, this was a decidedly *average* (possibly less than
>average) outing; there were a few good moments, but at the moment
>I'm hard pressed to remember when.  Perhaps Mr. Vornholt should
>try writing *better* stories instead of more plentiful ones (he's
>put out two ST novels in the last two months)...
>
>RC Carman
>
>

I know what you mean.  By the time I reached the middle of the book, I already
know who tried to kill Ro and who was the Godess and whatever. Fastest read
time:  22 hours (without break)
From: nova@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Jennifer Baughman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: STVI
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:59:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

It's very simple.   In Star Trek, _all_ officers are referred to as "Sir"
and _all_ crewmembers are referred to as "Mister" to eliminate gender
discrimination.  I mean, really!  They're _enlightened_ in the future!!!!!

__NOVA__
_______________________________________________________________________________

"If we're going to be damned, let's be damned for what we really are."
					--Jean-Luc Picard
					  "Encounter at Farpoint"
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From: aak50740@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Count Zero )
Subject: Spiner on Tales..Dark Side?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 19:02:58 GMT

I remember seeing Brent Spiner (Data) on an episode of Tales from the
Dark Side (TV show, not movie). He had a small but very well played part
as an eccentric priest. Does anyone remember the title of that episode?
This was a couple of years ago...
-- 
Count-Zero@uiuc.edu
The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
From: kanamori@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Atsushi Kanamori)
Subject: Re: baycon '92 questions
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University.
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 03:16:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep13.3208.10681@dosgate> "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com> writes:
>I just read the "Baycon '92" post in rec.arts.startrek.info and I am
>quite furious!  Spoilers for those who haven't read it yet...
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>The wall-of-ships in the Observation Lounge was DESTROYED during the
>shooting of Star Trek VI?  

I don't know.


>I don't BELIEVE that! 

Why not?

>How could they be so careless?  

Your statement below ("I never even noticed it was gone...") answers
it pretty well. It's a detail.


>Also, can anybody vouch that little tidbit of information?
>The poster said that Andy (whoever he is) says he's "lost" it and can't
>find it, but a fan screamed out "It was destroyed in STVI!".  So is this
>true?  Will they replace it?  I never even noticed it was gone...  When
>was the last episode it appeared in?

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From: petersm@jacobs.CS.ORST.EDU (Marguerite Petersen)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Why San Francisco?
Date: 7 Sep 92 09:26:56 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Outreach Services - Oregon State University

In article <92250.201950KELSEY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> KELSEY@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU (KELSEY, Michael H.) writes:
>In article <14897@mindlink.bc.ca>, Laura_Halliday@mindlink.bc.ca (Laura
>Halliday) says:
>>
>>San Francisco has unique geography, so we recognize the `exterior' shots
>>immediately, and know exactly where in San Francisco they are. San Francisco
>>has an atmosphere and mythology (played up in the Dixon Hill episodes) that
>>few
>>other cities have.
>
>This is why I *love* watching movies/TV shows set in San Francisco.  Quite
>often, I can recognize exactly where they are shooting, and can even point
>out the facades they have modified to fit the film :-)
>>
>>A few other cities have the atmosphere (e.g. New Orleans), but I suspect more
>>people would recognize the Golden Gate Bridge than the Lake Pontchartrain
>>Causeway...
>>
>>I personally find San Francisco to be an illogical (if delightful) choice.
>>Starfleet is clearly derived from 20th century organizations, so how did
>>Starfleet's headquarters get so far away from New York (U.N.) or Houston
>>and/or Cape Canaveral (NASA)?

Perhaps these places were destroyed in the Eugenics Wars which are
supposed to happen soon. :-)

>Ah, an interesting bit of historical "trivia" here, although it shouldn't be.
>The U.N. was *founded* in San Francisco, in the Civic Center, in fact.  That
>is where the first organizational meeting was held, in 1945, at which time
>they decided on New York as the location of the UNO Building.  So there *is*
>a logical reason for some UFP facilities to be located in San Francisco.
>
>                                             -- Mike Kelsey
>                                                SF expatriate in LA :-(
>
>[  My opinions are not endorsed by SLAC, Caltech, or the US government  ]
>What is your _name_?    "kelsey@slacvm.slac.stanford.edu"
>What is your _quest_?   "To get a Ph.D. in high-energy physics"
>When will you _finish_? "I don't know.   Waaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh..."

Marg
"The meek shall inherit the earth.  The rest of us are going to the stars!"
						- Unknown