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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:30:58 EDT
From:         BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject: NEW LIST: ARCANA - History and Theory of the Occult

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To:           Kevin Berland <BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET>

ARCANA on LISTSERV@UNCCVM.BITNET - History and Theory of the Occult

   ARCANA is a discussion list dealing with the occult.  All questions
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:13:24 EDT
From:         BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      E-MAIL IN CHINA

This just in from the intrepid Eric Dahlin's REACH Newsletter (Research
& Educational Applications of Computers in the Humanities):

     Some computing humanists may be interested in learning about the
current state of electronic mail in [mainland] China.
     A good place to keep up with the latest information is an electronic
discussion group devoted to the subject.  Its addresses are:
          chinanet@tamvm1.bitnet
          listserv@tamvm1.bitnet
     Those interested in a closer view of the position might want to
consider a conference scheduled for this fall, the U.S./China Joint
Conference on Education, which will include a special section on Linking
for Learning, Coming On-line Worldwide, to be held in Beijing, November
8-16, 1992.
     It's being organized by the Citizen Ambassador Program of People to
People International, the China State Education Commission, the Chinese
Education Association for Science and Technology, and the Ministry of
Education.
     To learn more about the conference, please communicate with:
          Ernie Anderson
          geand@educ.umass.edu
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From:         SDILL@CHARLIE.USD.EDU
Subject:      MWASECS PANEL
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This is to announce a panel called "The Ideologies of Chidhood" to
be presented at Midwest ASECS in Toledo, OH, October 9-ll.  The panel
will be held at 1:45 - 3:15.  Presenters are Julie L. Smith, James
Christian Steward, Kay S. Williams, and Holly Brewer.  The subjects
include images of children in literature and art, the legal status
of children, and their perceptions in political theory.

Stephen Dill (SDILL@CHARLIE.USD.EDU) Chair
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:13:58 EDT
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Subject:      J. Johnson

     The following query has been crossposted from SHARP-L.  If you can
help, please send your reply directly to the inquirer, since there is no
guarantee postings on C18-L will be seen by her/him.  And send a copy to
C18-L as well -- some of us would like to know. -- Kevin Berland for C18-L

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From:         "A.J. Wright" <MEDS002@UABDPO.BITNET>
Subject:      J. Johnson
To:           "BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET Kevin Berland" <BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET>

Anyone have pointers to information on J. Johnson, late 18th-early 19th cent.
English printer/publisher of such scientific types as J. Priestly and H. Davy?
Replies to me privately, please...thanks in advance...

A.J. Wright
Anesthesiology Library
School of Medicine
University of Alabama at Birmingham
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 13:58:00 CST
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Subject:      Re: Selected Readings, No. 6

I find these formal/informal bibbliographies useful. I would find them
more useful yet if I had time to read them more carefully than I do.
Please DO continue them. I store them, and can search the file[s].
Perhaps more could be added anent book-trade history? (Being my current
interest.)

Thanks for a good job well done.

--Bob Dawson
French-Italian
UnivTx-Austin
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 15:05:09 EDT
From:         BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      Selected Readings - abbreviations

An updated list of abbreviations of journal titles used in C18-L's
monthly listing of selected readings has been stored in the Fileserver.
To get a copy for yourself, use the following instructions:
BITNET: send interactive message to LISTSERV@PSUVM
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     GET SR ABBREV C18-L

Kevin Berland for C18-L
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Subject: Raspberry Dream Returns
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:40:02 GMT
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Carole, Don't overlook the several (very sexual) dreams in Richardson's
CLARISSA HARLOWE.
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From:         SDILL@CHARLIE.USD.EDU
Subject:      MWASECS panel
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This is to announce a panel called "Ideologies of Childhood" to be
held at Midwest ASECS in Toledo, OH, October 9-11, 1992.  The panel
is scheduled for Friday, Oct. 9, at 1:45.  Participants are Julie
L. Smith, James Cristian Steward, Kay S. Wilkins, and Holly Brewer.
The papers address the images of children in literature and art,
their legal rights, and their perception in political theory.

Stephen Dill (SDILL@CHARLIE.USD.EDU), Chair
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:22:02 EDT
From:         BCJ@PSUVM.BITNET
Subject:      NEW LIST: HISTORY OF ISLAM

A new discussion list, devoted to the History of Islam, has been set up.
The List's address is ISLAM-L@ULKYVM.BITNET or ISLAM@ulkyvm.louisville.edu

To subscribe, DO NOT contact the above address -- instead, send your
subscription message to LISTSERV@ULKYVM.BITNET or
LISTSERV@ulkyvm.louisville.edu

The list-owner is James Cocks, jacock01@ulkyvm.bitnet
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:35:47 EST
From:         Howard Gilbert <Howard@GILBERT.YCC.YALE.EDU>
Subject:      RFC for LU 6.2 over IP
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In a message of 18 Aug, Charles Ganzhorn asks:

>Is there an RFC for LU6.2 over IP?  Several companies have proprietary
>schemes but I don't know of a standard.

There is no RFC nor plans for one that I know of.  The problem of LU 6.2
over TCP/IP is that it has several solutions with different
characteristics:

Transarc has a set of subroutines which "function ship" the APPC verbs
to a real SNA host using RPC.  This allows client machines to operate
through a local TCP/IP network, but it does not provide true LU 6.2
functionality over TCP nor is RPC attractive over long distances.  On
the other hand, this design allows database synchronization (SYNCPT)
to be requested through RPC as well as the standard LU 6.2 features.

IBM has a long term strategy with the 6611 Multiprotocol Router and the
MPTN (MultiProtocol Transport Network) to support everything over
everthing.  In the 6611 style, this implies encapsulating SNA RUs over
IP (as well as IP over SNA).  MPTN offers the possibility, subject to
seeing the details, of a true IBM APPC over TCP.  These designs might
allow LU 2 (3270) and LU 0 (RSCS) over TCP as well as LU 6.2.  However,
they do not generate UNIX client machines unless those clients have a
real SNA package installed.

We have tried to develop a pure APPC over TCP/IP package in a style
which would accomodate an RFC.  We encapsulate the APPC verbs and return
codes over a standard TCP byte stream without a single drop of SNA
anywhere in the design.  Our example shows that this can be done, and it
might serve as an example to any committee activity, but we would not on
our own try to float an RFC effort.  Our package allows APPC clients and
servers to reside on any TCP host and it allows an APPC style of
interaction to run on a TCP/socket network without any SNA at all.

Basically IBM screwed up by never clearly defining APPC in itself.  The
result is that most IBM products have inconsistent APPC implementations
and some valid LU 6.2 base features (not just options) are not
recognized by each IBM product implementation.  APPC
compliments the current set of Internet protocols:
        APPC is
                Larger than RPC
                Smaller than a session
                REXEC but interactive
                A 3/4 Duplex socket
There are a number of problems which are more easily solved with an APPC
style of communication than with current INETD and RPC/Portmapper
conventions.

However, IBM has mishandled the public relations on APPC enough so that
the Internet community may not be receptive to this protocol.
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 08:50:31 EDT
From:         "Christoper V. DeRobertis" <UICD@MARIST.BITNET>
Subject:      NetView to LAN Manager question.

The NetView product allows a communication to IBM's LAN Manager product.

The NetView LAN commands require a service point name to be specified as
one of the parameters.

I've reviewed the NetView glossary for the meaning of a service point
name and have a relative idea about what it is.

The NetView docs and on-line help provide limited examples of a service
point name/function. ANY examples, comments, or technical perspectives
on a service point name would be *greatly* welcomed.

Thanks! -Chris DeRobertis (Dero)
Assistant Manager of Operations, Marist College, NY, U.S.A.
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 09:14:26 -0400
From:         Steve Sillince - Tecno <SSILLINC@ESOC.BITNET>
Subject:      OpenConnect Systems Solutions

 *** Reply to note of 92-08-21 15:06
 thanks, Hermann.

 Steve.

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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 07:47:03 EDT
From:         jon@AFS.COM
Subject:      Netbooting

I have a machine whose filesystem is sloghtly munged. It says it
cannot mount /.

I am not sure how to fix this, so I would like to netboot the
machine, mount the HD, and replace the /private directory with one
from a healthy machine.

Unfortunately, it seems that I cannot set the machine to net boot
unless I can get it in Netmanager. Since netmanager can't see the
sick machine, this won't work. When I try to net boot, it almost
works, but says : whoamI: no domain name (or something like that)

Is there any way to set this machine's domain and/or get it to
netboot without using NetManager?


Help!
jon@afs.com
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 10:34:08 +0200
From:         Frederic PRALONG <pralong@GISMO.CNET-PAB.FR>
Subject:      Archive site

Bonjour,

I have create a NUG in France (Paris) and I would like to know the e-mail
from the persons who can resolve my little problem :

The archive sites are very interesting but very far from here. And I want that
all the person in France can get the free and shareware. The solution is that
someone on the archive site can make a cartridge of the last product each month
for example.

Thanks


FReD

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Frederic PRALONG                        e-mail : frederic.pralong@issy.cnet.fr
Paris, FRANCE
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From: Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com>
Subject: Article Submissions for BANGup Magazine Sought
Reply-To: zac@dolphin.com
Organization: Dolphin Software
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:53:54 GMT

BANGup Magazine (An Excellent NeXT Magazine) Seeks Authors

We are rapidly approaching the publication deadline for the October issue  
of BANGup Magazine, and we need more articles!  If you are interested in  
writing about NeXT, whether the topic be fiction or fact, experience or  
desire, please get in touch with us!

Send us you postal address, electronic mail address, voice and fax  
telephone numbers (if you don't have one of these, don't worry).  We are  
looking for ideas, articles, and authors who wish to contribute.  Include  
what it is you would like to do for the magazine, and we'll get in touch  
with you right away!

	Zacharias J. Beckman <zac@dolphin.com>
	Editor in Chief, BANGup Magazine
	900 High School Way, Number 2106
	Mountain View, CA 94041
	415.966.8919
-- 
 Zacharias J. Beckman - Dolphin Software - zac@dolphin.com (NeXTMail welcome!)
         900 High School Way - Suite 2106 - Mountain View - CA - 94041
 To be "matter of fact" about the world is to blunder into fantasy... and dull
 fantasy at that, as the real world is strange and wonderful. -- R. A. Heinlen
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 08:14:19 PDT
From:         Bruce Kelly <kelly@SHOGUN.NERSC.GOV>
Subject:      Re: I have a problem!

> Last week I tried to use the 'UserManager' app, the problem is this:
> When I try to open the global domain (We have 2 NeXT stations and 1
> NeXT Cube, the server), UserManager closes unexpectly, all works fine
> with the local domains.

> Using NetInfoManager app, when I try to modify something, and I save
> the changes, it seems to works fine, but when I check, there's no
> changes, save does not work.

You have an entry in the NetInfo database that does not have a 'name'
property.  It will show up in NetInfoManager as a number.  You need to
make a name property or remove that item.

Bruce Kelly
NERSC, Central Systems Group
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 14:22:40 EDT
From:         jon@AFS.COM
Subject:      Netbooting--Thanks

Thanks to everyone for their suggestions as to how I should get my
machine to net boot.

It turns out I didn't have to, after all. The machine made it far
enough through the boot process to be net-accessible. The apparent
problem was with loginwindow.app and/or odmach. I replaced odmach and
relinked loginwindow to /loginwindow.app/loginwindow.

Thanks everyone for your help and suggestions.

Jonathan
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 11:58:20 PDT
From:         Adrian Freed <adrian@CNMAT.CNMAT.BERKELEY.EDU>
Subject: Re: OD & Turbo Cube

please remove me from the list
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 11:35:59 -0400
From:         32WHEELER@CUA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: The B's knees (was "Cabbages..")

AND WHAT ABOUT BIBER?  32wheeler@cua.bitnet
From: isaacson@gw.wmich.edu
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Subject: Re: bibliographic citation needed
Date: 21 Aug 92 11:07:46 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Our library does not own the 1975 Harper Torchbook, but in the 1964 Harper Row
eedition, the page numbers are 159-175.
David Isaacson
Humanities Librarian
Waldo Library
Western Michigan University
Kalamazoo, MI 49008    In article <9208200324.AA05842@equinox.unr.edu>, "Steven D. Zink"
<stevenz@EQUINOX.UNR.EDU> writes:
> In hopes that someone out there has a copy of the following on
> their office shelf.
> 
> I need a bibliographic citation from Garraty's QUARRELS THAT HAVE
> SHAPED THE CONSTITUTION.  Specifically, I need a citation to the
> following essay contained in that volume (the 1975 Harper Torchbooks
> edition):
> 
> R.W. Apple, "The Case of the Monopolistic Railroad Men"
> I need the inclusive pages of this essay.
> 
> Many thanks.
> 
> Steve Zink
> Univ. of Nevada, Reno
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:24:01 -0400
From:         Allan Adler <adler@RISC1.ACC.URI.EDU>
Subject:      list of conflicts
Comments: To: history%ubvm.bitnet@uriacc.ACC.URI.EDU

Does someone know of a list of all of the ongoing armed conflicts in the
world today? I think Diane Sawyer said that there are about 24 wars going
on at the moment.

I have no doubt that there are some people on this list who could write
such a list off the tops of their heads.

Allan Adler
adler@risc1.acc.uri.edu
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Date:         Fri, 21 Aug 1992 11:39:16 -0400
From:         32WHEELER@CUA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Of cabbages and kings....

the young Elvis ripped off the music of black artists--although one must admitt
that their music was inaccessable to general (i.e. white) audiences due to
the censorship by white owned radio sations.



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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:24:08 -0500
From:         mlove@UX1.CSO.UIUC.EDU
Subject:      Re: Of cabbages and kings....
Comments: To: History <HISTORY@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu>

I always thought that the 3 Bs was a later corruption of the 3
Ps--Pachelbel, Palestrina, and Purcell.

Sharon D. Michalove
Academic Advisor, Department of History, UIUC
309 Gregory Hall, 810 South Wright Street
Urbana, IL  61801
 217-333-4145
mlove@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu

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See the kitten on the wall/Sporting with the leaves that fall
Wht intenseness of desire/In her upward eye of fire!
        	       	       	       	William Wordsworth
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:34:35 -0400
From:         Agnes Kruchio <kruchio@EPAS.UTORONTO.CA>
Subject:      Re: Of cabbages and kings....
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              at Aug 19, 92 11:36 pm

>
> Hello, Agnes;
>
> I don't mean to embarass you in public, but BUBBA is a well-known acronym for
> the famous "Three B's": Dietrich Buxtehude, Luigi Boccherini, and Ernest Ball.
> :-)
>
> Lynn
>
> Lynn_Nelson
> Department of History
> University of Kansas
>

Lynn -
I dont' think it would have embarrassed me, since it is obscure enough a
reference  and I am considered rather well informed by friends and colleagues.
One can't know everything.

Why are these B's "the famous Three B's" - Of the three names,  only
Boccherini rings a bell...

My line was a play on "Papa/Granpa" Haydn BTW. It stands on its own,
such as it is.

Agnes
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 07:56:13 PDT
From:         bob pasker <bob@HALFDOME.SF.CA.US>
Subject:      Re: Basic Training
Comments: To: well!rutvm1.BITNET!history@uunet.UU.NET

more basic training:

Ernst Breisach, _Historiography: Ancient, Medieval, & Modern_
(Chicago: University Press, 1983).

Stern, Fritz Richard, ed., _The Varieties of History_ (NY: Vintage,
1973). [many good articles by von Ranke, Hofstadter, Barzun, Beard,
Huizinga, Carlyle, Michelet, Marks/Engles, FJ Turner, etc.]

also, you suggest David Hacket Fischer, _Historians' Fallacies:
Toward a Logic of Historical Thought_ (NY: Harper & Row, 1970) for
students who need to sharpen their critical thinking skills.


--
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 09:05:00 EDT
From:         DGPAZ@CLEMSON.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Of cabbages and kings....

On Wed, 19 Aug 1992 12:54:55 CDT Don Mabry <djm1@RA.MSSTATE.EDU> said:
> 	I think that Elvis has been a "saint" for some people in the
> world, but that he has long been a saint for white southerners is
> stretching it quite a bit. Perhaps I am wrong. Would be interested
> in seeing some data on this issue.

I don't have any data for this, but I think that the young
Elvis validated the culture and style of white working-class
Southerners. Look at the pilgrimages to Graceland, and the
intense interest generated by the Elvis stamp, and the
Elvis sightings.

Denis Paz
dgpaz@clemson.bitnet
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