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From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Re: Cat Poetry 
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 21:30:38 GMT

In article <1992Aug11.205640.1167@indetech.com> alix@indetech.com (Alexandria North) writes:
>I thought I cross-posted this poem to this newsgroup a few weeks 
>back, but my friend says it never made it over. Here is my second 
>attempt -- I apologize if you've already seen it.
>
>
>FELINITY
>--------
>

Great poem, Alexandria!

Debbie
Calli, Cissy, Timmy - my 3 lovers.
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Costly cats 
Date: 14 Aug 92 16:58:21 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Aug14.185900.1531@col.hp.com>, lpj@col.hp.com (Laura Johnson) writes:
> klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
> 
> Excellent suggestions for saving money, except maybe:
> 
>> kitty shampoo: Suave baby shampoo $1              
> 
> I know people shampoo isn't good for dogs: the rec.pets.dogs people
> say it has the wrong pH, and in my experience, it dries the skin
> badly. The same may be true for cats.

Suggested by my vets: that and Dawn dish detergent, diluted.  Seems to
work OK.  Nobody complains, and no one has dry skin.  Of course, they
only get bathed when they get in something really gross, like used
crankcase oil, or if they need flea-dipping (rare, now that I have
Precor.)

Kay Klier   Biology Dept  UNI

Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: hope@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov (Sharon Hope)
Subject: Personality -> Exotic Shorthair, Maine Coon
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Pasadena, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 18:05:34 GMT

Does anyone have any experience with Exotic Shorthair (look just like
a medium-length coated Persian) or Maine Coon?  I would like to know
what type of personalities they have.  Are they good with children (who
are good with cats)?  Are they friendly toward the family dogs (who are
good with cats)?

I have always loved the Persian temperament, calm loving & quiet.  How
do these 2 breeds compare?

Thanks, email is fine   

Sharon Hope    hope@thyme.jpl.nasa.gov
"all opinions my own"
From: violet@crchh342.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Debbie Nunn)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Sarah the Toilet Paper Shredder
Keywords: paper shred
Date: 12 Aug 92 18:45:36 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx

My cat Sarah LOVES to shred the toilet paper!  I, however, don't like my 
toilet paper shredded.  I remember seeing an add for some kind of protector,
but that was MANY years ago.  Any suggestions?

Kitty profile:  Sarah is 5yrs old and spayed.  Her companion (Katrina) is 
1yr old and also spayed.  They play together wonderfully.  They have a
tall cat tree by a large window with a pretty good (interesting) view.
The few times I've caught Sarah in the act, she was in a good mood and
really enjoying the thrill of the shread.  I include this info because
I'm pretty sure she isn't doing it out of boredom or to get even for
something.
From: antoniou@buitc.bu.edu (George Antoniou)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Free Kitty
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:45:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: bu.93459
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA
Originator: antoniou@buitc.bu.edu


I have a smart adorable kitty to give away...  She is 4 months old.
Has always been indoor...
loves to play...
very well trained...  well-mannered
		      litter-trained
		      won't dig in trash cans
She is really REALLY fun...

I'm in Boston...
please give me a call at work 617-353-2780  (George)
or email... antoniou@buitc.bu.edu

I will be away next week...  so please be patience if I don't reply...

giorgios
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: smbelcas@med.umich.edu (Sarah Marie Belcastro)
Subject: new cat soon!
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 13:37:03 EDT
Organization: University of Michigan, Mathematics Department, Ann Arbor
Originator: smbelcas@gilbey.math.lsa.umich.edu


a while ago i posted, looking for a cat... i just thought i would let everyone
know that i found one!  my housemate's ex-boyfriend is giving me his, as a new
kitten appeared that doesn't get along with the older cat.  (i was visiting 
Max is a black/grey tabby, yellowish-green eyes, about 2yrs old, has all his claws
(good because Tater, miriam's new cat, has all his, too), and is neutered.
I think i will give him a second name, but i haven't decided on what yet.


					--sarah marie.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats,news.answers
From: XLSS01@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Student1 Clsacct)
Subject: Help...cat spraying
Organization: Motorola
Date: 21 Aug 1992 10:47:01 CDT


i
My 5 year old spayed female, indoor cat has recently begun peeing in the
house.  It started approximately 3 months ago so I immediately took her to
the vet who said that she DID not have an infection but they did fine
traces of crystals in her urine.  They prescribed URIGARD which I gave
her religiously for 14 days.  It seemed to work.  Well now its has
started all over again.  The vet did say that they really didn't thing
that the small crystals was make he spray like she has been and it could
be psychological.  What has changed in our lives to make her feel so
stressed.  Well 21 months ago we brought home a bouncing baby boy.  The
cats were pretty good...no real problems.  Now our son is very active
and just loves to yell and run after the cats.  Sooty (our older cat)
handles it just fine.  Marbe (our problem) takes shelter upstairs where
we have provided her a safe harbor from him.   The vet thinks it is
probably not our son who is causing this.  OUr other cat has a prima-dona
personality.  She is part Siamese and was the first cat we had (1 year)
before we brought Marbe home.  They have lived together for 5 years now
and always seemed to tolerate each other.  Now it seems like the older
cat doesn't want to be bothered with Marbe.  They seemed to chase each
other around at night screaming and fighting.  It gets pretty bad.  I
am wondering if Marbe's peeing is a territorial thing.
I am thinking of putting her back on the URIGARD since I have half a
bottle left.  I am very worried.  Not so much about me...hey I can
clean up the messes.  I feel so bad for Marbe.  I know this goes against
the personality of a cat.  She must be very distressed about something.
I have read cat psychology books for clues...I have showered her with
undivided attention (when possible) and nothing seems to work.
Let me just say that giving her away is out of the question.  I love
both my cats.  They have seen me through thick and thin and I plan
on doing the same for them.  Marbe was a wild abused kitten when we
got her (she was 3 months) and she is reclusive.  She really only loves
my husband and I.  When we have guests she hides out until she really
knows she is safe.
If someone could give me some insight I would be very grateful.
I am at a loss as to what to do next.
Thanks.
Robyn
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: My litter box keeps getting tipped over, even when clean.
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:29:02 GMT
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Aug13.183957.20477@informix.com>, davek@informix.com (David Kosenko) writes:
> In article <1992Aug12.120455.6042@iscsvax.uni.edu> 
> 	klier@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>> [ cat tipping litter box over ]
>>Chances are he doesn't like the way the litter feels on his feet, and is
>>trying to balance on the rim of the pan.  DumDum does this, and if he
>>chooses the end that all the litter is at (courtesy of the other cats),
>>the pan will rise up and hit him in the fanny, scattering litter all over.
> 
> This is pretty funny.
> 
> Afterwards, does he walk away with the look that says "I *meant* to do
> that"?

Oh no, not DumDum.  He turns around to see who hit him, and tries to 
puzzle it out.  Eventually it's too much for his (very) tiny kitty 
brain, so he resumes the usual scratch-dig-balance routine.  

Remember, DumDum is the kitten who couldn't figure out how to get out
of the box like his brothers (climbing a towel over the side).  He
had to wait till his legs were long enough and he could just walk out.

Kay
From: klier@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Hyperactive cat
Date: 13 Aug 92 18:33:16 -0500
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Aug12.223416.9416@access.digex.com>, car@access.digex.com (Mr. Blue) writes:
> Hello, I got a kitten about a month ago and frankly, Im not sure
> it is going to work out. She is about 3 months old and is VERY VERY
> active in the way of jumping about, pouncing, jabbing, just randomly
> running through the apartment like a flash for no apparent reason, etc.

The only 3m kittens I've ever met that were sedate were pretty sick.  When
they started tearing things up again at 3.5 m, we threw a party.

Yes, this is typical kitten behavior.  Not much to do except wait out the
year or so before she's a cat...   In human equivalents, she's about
6 or 7 years old: maybe that will help you understand her behavior.

The best ways I know to turn her into a lap cat are to reward her
(with attention) when she's being quiet for a few minutes, and DON'T
ROUGH-HOUSE with her.  

An ethologist I know says the best predictor she knows of for cat personalities
at maturity is the personality of the parents.  Second best is personality
of the owner.

Kay Klier  Biology Dept  UNI
From: bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Beth Schwindt)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: a BIG kitty....
Date: 13 Aug 1992 20:59:26 -0500
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

I saw the ultimate in big house cats today in a store that caters to
college students here in Manhattan.  Pepper is a 33 lb. long-haired Siamese
that reigns over the store (and scratched me when I picked him up off the
counter).

Since Pepper is just a bit bigger than my two (Garfield-25 lbs, Midnight-20),
I was wondering if the size of these cats is unusual.  I've seen them that
are even bigger (Bear, a friend's cat, was 38 lbs).  

Any comments?  

Beth


P.S.  Should note here:  None of these cats are fat.  Garf and Middie have
to "work" for a living for my dad, catching most of their food.  Pepper is
just BIG.  Underneath all that fur is a big-boned kitty.


-- 
The brighest day in America will be when education has enough funding and
the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a new bomber....My history
teacher (from the Wireless catalog) bets@matt.ksu.ksu.edu, bets@ksuvm.ksu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: wb9omc@dynamo.ecn.purdue.edu (Duane P Mantick)
Subject: Re: Leaving cats alone.
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:01:35 GMT

joses@cs.tamu.edu (Batman the Destroyer) writes:


>Hello cataholics,

>I have a question regarding how long you can leave cats in an apartment.
>We are going on vacation next week and do not have anybody to look after
>our two cats.  Does anybody know how long you can leave cats in an
>apartment by themselves?  (Assuming we leave them plenty of water and food).

	My wife and I will leave our two alone no more than three days.
If we intend to be gone more than that, we board them with our vet OR
have someone take care of them for us.  It isn't so much that we don't
trust THEM, but outside influences such as break-ins, etc.  Others
mileage may vary...


>--
>	Jose Salinas		|	"Religion is the opiate of the
>	joses@cs.tamu.edu	|	 masses"  - Karl Marx
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                                        "So are my pants."
Duane                                             - Groucho Marx
From: diana@wetware.com (CatWoman )
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Those cats at the Humane Society Again
Date: 15 Aug 92 16:17:34 GMT
Organization: Castle WetWare MouseCatcher

myhre@plains.NoDak.edu (Robert Myhre) writes:

]   Now, these cats are $50 each with a refund of $20 each when they are
] altered, plus the cost of altering plus all the additional shots that
] are needed (they have only had te first set... booster and distemper).
] Is this price normal for cats?  I am beginning to think that it would be
] cheaper just to get one of those cats that people are giving away for
] free instead of dealing with the HS.

No.  Motley came to the door - no charge. (she must have seen
the X that was put there at some point...)

I had her checked, and given ALL the shots.  The only thing that
saved the "office call" fee is that the other cats were due for
their annual check-up a week after she showed up, so she was
included (my vet comes to the house, and only charges One 
"office call" fee per visit).  It cost me $30 to have her
spayed, and probably would have cost about the $50 for the
first visit and shots the ones you are considering have already
had taken care of...

Any charge you don't get back, consider it a donation to a
worthy cause, and consider that the more cats adopted from a
humane society, the less there will be that are euthanized just
for BEING - and maybe the longer the next set will be allowed
to live and FIND a place to adopt them...

Besides - this way the humane society makes sure that you are
serious about wanting the cats, not that they are going to be
lab experiments...

Diana

(If they ever stop showing up at the door, or if I ever win
the lottery, I'll clear out ALL the local humane societies!!)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: dmillard@encore.com (Debbie Millard)
Subject: Re: Hyperactive cat
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 18:42:00 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Encore Computer Corporation, Ft. Lauderdale, FL

In article <1992Aug12.223416.9416@access.digex.com> car@access.digex.com (Mr. Blue) writes:
>Hello, I got a kitten about a month ago and frankly, Im not sure
>it is going to work out. She is about 3 months old and is VERY VERY
>active in the way of jumping about, pouncing, jabbing, just randomly
>running through the apartment like a flash for no apparent reason, etc.
>
 < some stuff deleted for badwith's sake >
>
>Is this normal?? I just want a lap cat that doesnt get too hyper. Do kittens
>calm down after a certain time? How best should I react to her incessant
>running, streaking through the place, pouncing on everything in sight, etc.
>
>Or is this bred into her? Im looking for a mellow cat, and perhaps
>getting a kitten was a mistake. Im concerend that this cat will never
>settle down. Im finding myself getting irritated by her and dont know
>what to do about it..Any suggestions are immensely appreciated.

Chris,

Don't give up!  When my Timmy-terror-the-cat-from-hell was about
this age, I actually tried to give him away.  I just didn't
think I could handle him, and the girls (Calli & Cissy) weren't
thrilled, either.  Now he's two years old and is a *very* lovable
affectionate boy.  I can't imagine now that I actually wanted
to get rid of him.  Have patience...

Debbie
Calli, Cissy, and Timmy-the loves of my life
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 03:32:23 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

OoIn <HANNAH.92Aug19132640@pomponio.ai.sri.com> hannah@pomponio.ai.sri.com writes:

> 
>    > On a slightly different tack, our calico has a way of popping
>    > straight up in the air off of all four paws at once when startled,
>    > the height off of the ground being directly proportional to the
>    > degree of startle.  We've always called this "toastering".
> 
> As long as we're naming cat behaviors, how about alternate names for
> the insane running around that has been called "the crazies"?  If
> there are 2 or more cats involved, we refer to it as "cat races".
> Therefore, by extension, for one cat, it's "time trials"---preparing
> for future cat races.  If there is mock prey involved, it's "chasing
> windmills" (in honor of Don Quixote's imaginary foes).
> 
> Marsha Jo Hannah


Oops, sorry.  When Hannah jumps at another cat with all four feet in front
of her, we call this "Ninja Leap".  When any one of them's being a crab,
we say they're getting "tuna".

	-Kristen
From: ambar@cygnus.com (Jean Marie Diaz)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Sable Burmese question
Date: 22 Aug 92 07:31:32 GMT
Organization: Redheads Anonymous


   From: cosulliv@fraser.sfu.ca (Christina Marie O'Sullivan)
   Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 16:31:57 GMT

   My eight year old Sable Burmese Bali is going grey!  His fur is now
   specked with flecks of grey at the tips!  Is this normal for Sable
   Burmese, or is he so convinced he's human that he ages like one?

It's not unusual for cats to grey as they age.

   Another question: he has a "necklace" of markings, light brown 
   "highlights" if you will.  The breeder told us that he was from
   a subdivision of Sable Burmese called "Memchaz."  Is there any
   truth to this?  Is it a penalty in cat showing?

The Burmese standard specifies that the color should be as even as
possible, so, yes, it is a fault.  But all cats have faults, not that
they'll admit it. :-)

				AMBAR
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa)
Subject: Re: Peace Lilly -- poisonous?
Organization: University of New Hampshire
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 05:47:18 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.12

I have a list of poisonouw plants and "good" plants that I downloaded from
this group.  For lilies, calla lily, and lily-of-the-valley, are on the
POISON list.  Tiger lily and Easter lily are on the OK list.  I don't know
if there is a "peace" lily, is there?  Maybe Easter.

As well as the low-cost spaying info,
I also think that this info should be put in the FAQ.  I have the whole list
if anyone wants it.  This number is very good to put in also   |
							     \|/e

	-Kristen






In <BtB08n.MwG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kjt34420@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu writes:

> There is a poison-control center number that you can all which will
> tell you if a plant is poisonous or not, and also will tell you what
> to do in the event of a poisoning.  It is called the "National Animal
> Poison Control Hotline"  and is staffed by veterinary professionals
> 24 hrs a day.
> 
> 1-800-548-2423
> 
> 
> -- 
>
From: amd@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: cats vs snow
Keywords: wet raining cat fur damp sodden snow white fluffy play cavort
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:03:53 GMT
Reply-To: amd@space.mit.edu (Ann M. Davis)
Organization: MIT Center for Space Research


another funny cat story.

My sisters cat's first encounter with SNOW!

It had snowed the night before, and the cat wanted to go outside.  There
are about three steps down from the door. Now all this white stuff out
there, it looks pretty solid ya know?  So the kitty walks out the
door, tries to stand on the snow, instead sinks down a few inched to
the step.  She proceeds to loose her balance and roll down the steps.

One snow covered, embarrassed kitty at the bottom.  :-)

	Ann
From: tomb@hplsla.hp.com (Tom Bruhns)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Cat likes cantelope???
Date: 13 Aug 92 23:49:30 GMT
Organization: HP Lake Stevens, WA

Does anyone else out there have a cat that loves _cantelope_??  As far
as I know, no other veggies do this to him.  We keep a bowl of kitchen
scraps that gets put on the compost pile occasionally, and if we put
cantelope rind in it, Mittens will almost invariably dig it out and
chew on it.  And he loves it if we cut up some of the inside flesh and
give it to him.

Tom Bruhns
tomb@hplsla.hp.com
From: berthiau@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Andre Berthiaume)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Naming cat behaviors
Date: 23 Aug 92 01:14:20 GMT
Reply-To: bunny@gnu.ai.mit.edu
Organization: Universite de Montreal

ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu (Ilana Stern) writes:

>Long Kitty (when he lies on his side and streeeeeetches all 4 legs as
>far forward and back as possible -- I'd swear he's 4 feet long!)
>Saalaam (when he sticks his butt into the air and stretches his forepaws
>and head along the ground)

SOunds just like what Finster does except he does the saalaam which continues
into the long kitty =)  And boy does he look funny! 8)

- Eva


(ignore the following .sig)


--
	Andre Berthiaume 	 |  "Sometimes you're the windshield,
				 |   Sometimes you're the bug"
    berthiau@iro.umontreal.ca    |			
				 |	       Dire Straits, The Bug
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: pdsmith.mitre.org (Pat Smith)
Subject: litter box troubles
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:14:53 GMT

our Maine Coon cat (14 months old) has always had some trouble with her long
fur and the litter box.  She often gets soiled and of course comes to us for
help.  This often means she brings presents to us at 3am while we are sleeping.
I keep her fur trimmed on her legs but I hate to trim her beautiful tail. We
first used conventional cat litter and now us the scoopable.  I find she has
the same problem no matter what litter.  The scoopable at least clings to
the "present" so its not as messy.  Any advice on how to solve this dilemma.
Both Daisy and mom and dad find this a problem that needs to be solved.
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
From: lhuffman@stsci.edu
Subject: Re: Followup to low-cost spaying/neutering
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: usa,local
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:17:34 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.164548.15543@europa.asd.contel.com>, draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (PAM DRAPER) writes:
> For people in the metropolitan area of Washington, D.C., they can call
> Spay, Inc.  @ 703/521-2677.  Leave name, # and message and they will
> return your call.  Their vets do female cats for $35.00 and male cats
> for $17.50.  I don't know about dogs because I had 6 female cats to
> have done and didn't ask anything about dogs.



AND IN THE BALTIMORE AREA CALL 
            SNAP - SPAY NEUTER ALL PETS   AT (410) 484-2020
 
          FEMALE       MALE
DOGS        45          31
CATS        31          17


ALSO,

THE INNER HARBOR ANIMAL CLINIC WILL DO ANIMALS AT THE ABOVE PRICE IF YOU ASK.
                                 (410) 547-8384
AND THE BALTIMORE COUNTY HUMANE SOCIETY ON NICODEMUS RD HAS AN EXCELLENT 
PROGRAM.
                                 (410) 833-4480 

ALSO, THE FALLS RD. SPCA IN BALTIMORE SPAYS AND NEUTERS AT REDUCED RATES.
From: ssnyder@sunai.er.usgs.gov (Steve Snyder)
Newsgroups: rec.pets.cats
Subject: Re: Exspot -- warning to cat owners
Date: 20 Aug 92 13:07:34 GMT
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA

In article <1992Aug19.234517.28433@newshost.unh.edu> K_LEPA@unhh.unh.edu (Kristen   Lepa) writes:
>Saw this in rec.pets and I didn't see it in rec.pets.cats, so here it is
>just in case...
>
>
>In <1992Aug18.050430.25631@sco.COM> megm@sco.COM writes:
>
[stuff about bad experience deleted]
>> 
>> My vet says Exspot is known to be poisonous to cats,
>> and she would suspect that rabbits can't handle it,
>> either.  She doesn't think it is poisonous to dogs,
>> but if i were using it i think i would be extremely
>> careful to scrub my hands thoroughly after applying
>> it no matter what animals were around.

Pardon my ignorance, but what is Exspot??


Steve     This disclaimer is invisible.