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From: wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Stanford banned again
Date: 30 Sep 1992 17:07:20 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Sep30.050455.9800@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami) writes:
>wft@soda.berkeley.edu (William F. Tell) writes:
>>UC Berkeley
>>yeah, and we don't like paying extra $$$ for big game tickets to 
>>pay for Bill Walsh's salary.  
>
>Well, the game's at Berkeley this year, so you won't be paying for
>Walsh's salary -- only for Gardner's retirement package.
>
>
>--Gidi
>
I read in the Chronicle a few months ago that the reason why ticket prices
for Big Game were up this year was due in part to Stanford's desire for
more revenue to pay for Bill Walsh's salary.   Both Cal and Stanford take
a share of big game receipts regardless of where Big Game is played.

Then again, it was the Comical, probably the worst newspaper known to man.

By the way, I am surprised that no one has bothered fixing the road
signs on 101 and 280 that say "Stanfurd University" on them.  No one has
bothered to fix them.

William F. Tell
UC Berkeley
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From: tsau@cae.wisc.edu (Johne Tsau)
Subject: UW vs NIU *gasp*
Date: 28 Sep 92 00:31:52 CDT

I will admit it.  I was one of those who thought UW would blow out
NIU by at least 20 points.  Even if I wasn't looking ahead to
OSU, the Badgers were.

Wisconsin had 2 fumbles and an interception within the red zone and a
missed easy field goal and turned what could have been a blow out
into an almost disaster.

After Wisconsin sacked NIU 3 straight times (I think in their 2nd drive),
I was confident we would win.  But with a flurry of mistakes on the
wet field, UW only led 3-0 at the half.  NIU scored a fg to tie in the
3rd, and then it happened.

NIU scored 2 touchdowns within 1 minute, by picking off another Bevell
pass to set up the 2nd.  NIU led 17-3 in the 4th quarter.
Wisconsin then made a nice drive (one pass was  good for 1st on 4th-10) to
set the score 17-10.  The defence held NIU to almost no yardage at their
own 5 yard line to force a punt.  UW started deep in NIU territory and
scored the touchdown, and a VERY close 2 point conversion, with a 2 minutes
and 10 seconds.   UW's defence allowed NIU to get to their 40 or so, way
out of fg goal range, and NIU lost on downs.

NIU played well with few mistakes, but while watching... *blah*
It seemed to me that Wisconsin now has a great running game (fletcher and
moss had 5-6 yards/carry), but the passing is terrible... can't they
ever put both together?  It was obvious when we were down that we had
no long plays in our play book (at least we didnt use them).

It also seems to me that the rumors of our secondary being inferior
is true.  They are fairly effective against the run though.  I will
give them the fact that the weather was very wet, which might have
caused the turnovers... but they didnt really force any, and they
didn't appear to be concentrating all that hard.

BTW, does anyone know the status of Terrel Fletcher, he went out with
a sore ankle I believe... we need him for Ohio!

But this win is probably better for them than a blow out would be...
maybe this will work for us vs OSU...  Go Badgers!

Johne.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:48:45 EDT
From: Spiro the Spiny Goldfish <MXD118@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Best Marching Band -- Blue Band ?
 <92275.214458KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>

In article <92275.214458KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu>, Kurt Ludwick
<KEL111@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>In article <92273.112426JXJ101@psuvm.psu.edu>, John Johnson
><JXJ101@psuvm.psu.edu> says:
>
>>Penn State does have a music major available.
>
>Ironically, music majors generally don't have TIME for marching band. Strange
>but true.

Music majors *think* they don't have enough time. Many others disagree.
----
Mike Dahmus       MXD118@PSUVM  or  dahmus@cs.psu.edu
TEAM OS/2
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From: archmage@hardy.u.washington.edu (Michael Bakkemo)
Subject: Re: #1 Washington vs #2 Penn State
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 01:54:03 GMT

In article <92277.103054MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu> MJR127@psuvm.psu.edu (mark rieker) writes:
>
>         O.k. can anybody find a problem with this..................
>
>         -Washington goes undefeated the rest of the year
>
>         -Penn State goes undefeated the rest of the year
>
>         -UCLA goes undefeated in the PAC-10 this year
>                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>           
>         [deleted stuff]                    
>  
>        Well, whadda ya think?


weeeelllll, out of conference play is one of the PAC-10 tiebreakers, so
UCLA would have to go completely undefeated for the senario. Then again, I
think they've played all their out of conference games, so it amounts to
the same thing.
From: mm42@prism.gatech.EDU (Mark Mitchell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Virginia Football
Date: 2 Oct 92 13:12:53 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Ramblin' Wrecks from Georgia Tech

sjc@cs.purdue.EDU (Steve Chapin) wrote:
}
}Um, isn't 48-0 a little late to avoid running up the score?
}
}"Gosh, Coach, they're within 7 touchdowns!  I don't think we should
}put the backups in yet!"

In defense of George Welsh, it was only the 2nd game of the season,
and Goodman had had trouble in the first game.  I'm all for sportsmanship,
but the coach also has a responsibility to get his starters some
game experience early in the year.

-- 
Mark Mitchell           Georgia Tech            mm42@prism.gatech.edu

    "I may be a scwewy wabbit, but I'm not going to Alcatwaz!"
From: hunter@wpi.WPI.EDU (George M. Berberian)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Who is number 1?
Date: 7 Oct 92 02:23:14 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Oct6.215632.11840@ultra.com> rajiv@ultra.com (Rajiv Dhingra) writes:
>-> After this Saturday when Cal upsets Washington and Penn State does the same
>                                ^^^^^^                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>-> to Miami, Penn State should then be ranked #1!!
>
>A Penn State win would not be an upset, the Vegas line is 1 point
>in their favor.
>
>Rajiv


HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO DRILL THIS INTO EVERYONES HEAD?
I said it once, Sept.1st , Penn State will be National Champs by the end of the
season. You can bet the whole farm on it. Just ask my uncle joe.
For those of you who don't believe......just watch a game or two.
See why it's so obvious. The only way this will NOT happen is injuries to 
several key players. I have NO connections to the school, but follow PSU
every year, since 1970. I thought they could have been number one last year.
All thats left to say is: WE WILL SEE, won't we.


-- 
..................................../*\....................................
George M.Berberian                                   College Computer Center
hunter@wpi.wpi.edu (email)                       Worcester Polytechnic Inst.
GOOOOOO....PATS 11-5 in 92                          Worcester, Massachusetts
From: yecx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: penn state's "ranking"
Date: 6 Oct 92 14:21:01 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

Isn't it interesting that of the worst twenty teams in the nation, Penn State
has played three of them (Maryland, Temple, Cincinatti), even had trouble with
one of them (Cincinatti) and can be considered in the top ten of the country. 
I believe they shouldn't get any credit until they DESERVE it.  Really now,
what have they done to prove themselves.   IF  they win this weekend, the
discussion might be different.  Until then . . . .
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From: dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu (David Mathias)
Subject: Re: Sorry, Gophers!
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis MO
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 18:13:32 GMT

In article <1992Oct2.142525.5365@netcom.com> stassen@alc.com writes:
>
>[Stuff deleted]
>
>Below is the table of result for all of the Big Eight teams, with a
>"score" derived (four points for a top five appearance, three for 6-10,
>two for 11-15, and one point for 16-20).  Note that Colorado comes in at
>just about 40% of Minnesota's score (included at the bottom).
>
>	   1936 to 1951 (26 years)		   1952 to 1988 (27 years)
>
>Team	Top5  6-10  11-15 16-20 Pts-1	 Top5  6-10  11-15 16-20 Pts-2	Total
>======= ====  ====  ===== ===== =====	 ====  ====  ===== ===== =====	=====
>Oklahoma 11	1     2     2	  53	  13	 4     2     3	   73	 126
>Nebraska  -	2     1     2	  10	   7	12     5     -	   74	  84
>Missouri  1	2     1     2	  14	   -	 3     2     4	   17	  31
                                        ^^^^^^^
>Colorado  -	1     -     2	   5	   1	 -     -     6	   10	  15
>Okl. St.  -	-     -     1	   1	   -	 1     3     -	    9	  10
>Kansas	  -	-     2     -	   4	   -	 1     -     -	    3	   7
>Iowa St.  -	-     -     -	   0	   -	 -     -     1	    1	   1
>Kan. St.  -	-     -     -	   0	   -	 -     -     -	    0	   0
>======= ====  ====  ===== ===== =====	 ====  ====  ===== ===== =====	=====
>Minn.	  5	3     1     2	  33	   -	 1     1     -	    5	  38
>======= ====  ====  ===== ===== =====	 ====  ====  ===== ===== =====	=====
>
>

Didn't Missouri win a National Championship around '60 or '61
when Dan Divine was coaching there?


>-- 
>Chris Stassen						stassen@alc.com
>DISCLAIMER:  My employer's account, but not their opinions.


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David Mathias    Washington University in St Louis    dmath@bluehen.wustl.edu
From: lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Division 3 Game of the Year
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:58:25 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network

In article <1992Oct5.174307.13561@den.mmc.com> kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com (Kevin Rodgers) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.165104.13967@en.ecn.purdue.edu> lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu (Patrick W Lauson) writes:
>>In article <QemxRCy00WBMQ_PoFj@andrew.cmu.edu> jg4r+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jason Matthew Grusky) writes:
>>>
>>>    The winner of Saturday's matchup between Carnegie Mellon University
>>>(Pittsburgh) and Allegheny College (Meadville, Pa) could be a good
>>>indicator of who will win this year's Division 3 national championship. 
>>>But who cares... 
>>
>>Isn't this the same CMU that hasn't won yet this year????
>
>No, this is the CMU that is now 2-2 after losing to Allegheny on
>Saturday, the CMU that lost only 1 game in '91 (in their opener against
>defending Division III national champion Allegheny) and 1 game in '90
>(in the first round of the Division III playoffs against Lycoming, who
>pushed Allegheny into triple overtime before losing in the Amos Alonzo
>Stagg Bowl).

Shows how much I know.  Will keep my mouth shut from now on when
talking about school I don't follow   :(

>
>>------------------------------------------------------------------
>>| Pat Lawson                     :  Go Buckeyes!!!!!!            |
>>| lauson@en.ecn.purdue.edu       :    Scarlet and Gray Rules!!!! |
>>------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Is this the same Purdue that lost to Toledo and Northwestern this year?
Yes

>Is this the same Ohio State that "rules" Wisonsin?
Well.............

>Kevin Rodgers				kevin@traffic.den.mmc.com

P.S.  Somebody help me out here.  If somebody makes a mistake on the net, is 
it customary to yell at them, cut them down, and try to make them feel
like total idiots?  I hope y'all aren't like that in real life....
How about just politely correcting somebody?
Sheez

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From: costley@solo.eng.hou.compaq.com (Brett Costley)
Subject: Re: Home field advantage... (was: what a game)
Keywords: Tech-NCSU
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:16:16 GMT

>>Yeah, the home field advantage.  Watch the reply, they showed it here
>>in slow-mo.  The guy catches the ball with 2 seconds left and magically,
>>the clock stops with 1 second left BEFORE the ref waves his arms to stop
>>the clock.  Anywhere else time would've run out......
>>
>>Honestly, I wanted Tech to win.  But watch a reply.  The clock is 
>--------------------------------
>  
>>questionable (Sounding remarkably like a Kenny Anderson shot that-
>>didn't-quite-beat-the-buzzer, but the refs allowed it :)
>>
>>-- 
>>Jeff Butera            DISCLAIMER: I claim absolutely nothing.

If you watch the replay you'll notice that his knee was down with at
least 2 seconds left on the clock.  Since it was a first down the 
clock should have stopped then.
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From: crs@milton.u.washington.edu (Cliff Slaughterbeck)
Subject: Re: U-dub & r.s.f.c Top 25 poll
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 05:26:40 GMT

In article <1992Sep30.184958.29081@tamsun.tamu.edu> gws6860@tamsun.tamu.edu (Gary Wayne 'Goober' Smith) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.174236.6451@u.washington.edu> millert@milton.u.washington.edu (Tom Miller) writes:
>>Could someone repost the instructions for entering or the address to enter?
>>
>>Homer
>
>Hey you're right Cliff... they are back.  
>
>Bapi, Looks like you're going to get a few more votes for U-dub next week.
>
>- goober (goober school, u-dub branch rulz!!!) smith

Of course I'm right.  They don't call me the Pac Ten Pigskin Pundit for
nothing you know.

Cliff (That's right--I pay them to call me that) Slaughterbeck

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Dept. of Physics, FM-15       *   Hey Matt!  The diffusion pump is full of
University of Washington      *   water again!
Seattle, WA 98195             *
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From: aelman@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Adam Elman)
Subject: Re: Attn: CAL WEENIES!!!
Organization: CS Department, Stanford University, California, USA
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:31:03 GMT

scott@con.Berkeley.EDU (Scott Silvey) writes:

>%    As some of you may be aware, the most hated team in the Pac Ten
>%   (gernerally speaking, obviously everyone has there specific
>%   rival) comes up to Husky Stadium this week.  You all know what this means.
>%   72,000+ fans will be forced to listen to that damn song about 100 times.
>%   I know that at last year's game, the Cal Weenies came up with lyrics to
>%   the tune, and sang them every time U$C's band played the blasted thing.
>%   If you would be so kind as to post them, I will try and get the Husky
>%   student section to sing along.
>%
>% Oh, but it's for a good cause.  I guess we can forgive you.  Once.

>Since the game is going to be on ABC, make sure you make up a large 
>poster with the lyrics on it that takes at least three guys to hold up.
>To make sure the cameras get a good shot, make up some clever phrase of 
>three words that begin with the letters ABC.  Then hold up three large
>numbers with the current count of the number of times that acursed
>band has honked out the diabolical noise.  Having the people around 
>the sign dramatically clasp their hands over their ears and wince in
>pain might have a good affect as well.  Although that might be
>involuntary.

>We must call national attention to this cause ... rise up to silence
>this Unrelenting Shameless Cacophony!!!!

>Oh, and Go Bears!!!!

>Scott, a Bear fan.

>PS: In any case, you Washington Dawg-people have my warmest, heartiest,
>and most sincere prayers that you completely and utterly demoralize that
>vile, evil team on the field this weekend.  At least, you better do this
>or else we're going to have to come up there and trash YOUR goal posts
>too!  (like we did to Purdue when we got really pissed off at them)

I hate to agree with a Cal fan, but GO HUSKIES!!!!!!!!!  (Well, I'm
also a native Washingtonian, so I get to say that anyway).

By the way, since the Weenie forgot to post the lyrics, here they are,
as I remember them being posted a few months back.

"This is the only song we know
It's boring and it's slow" ad nauseous (and those of you who have had
the displeasure of hearing this band know what I mean by "nauseous".)

Adam Elman
aelman@cs.stanford.edu
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
Subject: Re: Could there be 3 nat'l champs?
Keywords: tiguzz
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:17:25 GMT
Organization: chevron

jeff@jlk.b11.ingr.com writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.160150.29145@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, wilbanks@spot.Colorado.EDU (Wendell Gee) writes:
>
>|> Tennessee goes 11-0, with a Sugar Bowl bid.
>|> 
>|> Does anyone see a lil problem?
>
>  Problem should occur the 3rd Saturday next month.  With Coach "let's run it
>down their throats till we get behind, then pass" Majors back, Bama's chances
>have improved!  Let's make it 7 in a row!  Then a rematch on December.  Bama 12-0
>with 2 wins over UT in one season?

Yeah.  Its a known SEC fact:
	UT waxes UF at home.
	UT gets waxed by Bama at home.

Bama's in good shape now.  Heck, they've made it past their early-season
blundering period, *plus* they get to play at their two favorite home
away from homes:  Knoxville & Baton Rouge.

But if both UT and Bama geaux undefeated after the 'Third Saturday in
October', I'd give the nod to UT and Coach Johnny "majors? We don't need
no steenking" Majors in the rematch....

(weaux iz me...)
J.J.Clyde
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From: bnoble+@cs.cmu.edu (Brian Noble)
Subject: Re: Kiss of Death
Keywords: all over but the shoutin'
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:28:45 GMT

In article <BvHzHw.6Hy@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> peppler@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Randy Peppler) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.020008.19063@mailer.cc.fsu.edu> swanson@loligo.cc.fsu.edu (Bob Swanson) writes:
>>
>>Nole Fans, you may as well make other plans this weekend.  Lee Corso just 
>>picked FSU to win big this weekend.  And he has a direct line to the woof gods.
>> 
>>Hmm...who's FAMU playing this weekend?
>
>	Lee probably doesn't count, since he went to school at FSU and
>	the football gods have already dismissed him as a buffoon...
>

Well, the *football* gods may ignore him, but buffoonery is the stuff
that the woof gods are *made* for.

I personally am rooting for a meteor to hit the stadium, killing both
teams and that damn FSU band.  If it could take out all Florida net
connections as well, that'd be cool too.

Brian
(No, really, didn't mean it at all.)

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From: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Subject: Re: The deciding game for the Rose bowl this Weekend
Reply-To: murphy@rock.enet.dec.com ()
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:59:53 GMT


In article <1992Sep30.090047.10263@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>, tshannon@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon) writes:
|> Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.college
|> Path: ryn.mro4.dec.com!nntpd.lkg.dec.com!news.crl.dec.com!deccrl!caen!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!moe.ksu.ksu.edu!hobbes.physics.uiowa.edu!news.uiowa.edu!news.weeg.uiowa.edu!tshannon
|> From: tshannon@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Timothy J. Shannon)
|> Subject: The deciding game for the Rose bowl this Weekend
|> Message-ID: <1992Sep30.090047.10263@news.weeg.uiowa.edu>
|> Organization: University of Iowa, Iowa City, IA, USA
|> Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 09:00:47 GMT
|> Lines: 31
|> 
|> 	The game Sat. with Michigan Vs. Iowa should decide who goes to
|> the Rose Bowl.  The last seven out of the eleven years the team that
|> has won that game has gone to smell the roses.

Oh please.  This statistic is outrageously misleading. For example, as
recently as 1989 Iowa struggled to finish in the top half of the Big Ten.
The Michigan Iowa game had nothing to do with the Rose Bowl that year.
And it won't this year either. Loving seeing the Hawks at 1-4, who is after
Michigan?

John Murphy
murphy@rock.enet.dec.com

|> 	Iowa vs. Michigan
|> -----------------------------------------------------
|> Year  Site        Result		  Rose Bowl
|> -----------------------------------------------------
|> 1981  Ann Arbor   Iowa 9, Michigan 7      Iowa
|> 1982  Iowa City   Michigan 29, Iowa 7	  Michigan
|> 1983  Ann Arbor   Michigan 16, Iowa 7	  Illinois (1)
|> 1984  Iowa City   Iowa 26, Michigan 0	  Ohio State (2) 
|> 1985  Iowa City   Iowa 12, Michigan 10	  Iowa
|> 1986  Ann Arbor   Michigan 20, Iowa 17    Michigan
|> 1987  Ann Arbor   Michigan 37, Iowa 10    Michigan State (3)
|> 1988  Iowa City   Iowa 17, Michigan 17 (TIE)  Michigan
|> 1989  Iowa City   Michigan 24, Iowa 12    Michigna 
|> 1990  Ann Arbor   Iowa 24, Michigan 23	  Iowa
|> 1991  Iowa City   Michigan 43, Iowa 24	  Michigan
|> --------------------------------------------------
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From: john@makesys.com (John Turman)
Subject: Re: Rusty Medearis
Organization: Make Systems, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 14:54:58 GMT

In article: <1992Sep29.002241.27457@ncsu.edu>, sbanerj@eos.ncsu.edu (SANJEEV  BANERJIA) writes:

>With all of the hemming an' hawing goin' on about FSU vs Miami, I'm surprised
>no one's yet mentioned Rusty Medearis.  I read in the morning paper that he
>damaged cartilage (I think) in his knee, is out for the year, maybe
>permanently.  This is a devatating impact to the 'Canes, losing one of their
>top defensive players.

>Surprised all of you rabid Floridians (and others) have yet to comment on how
>this will affect the game...

>Sanjeev

You are correct Sanjeev, the loss of Rusty Medearis will be difficult to
overcome, but not impossible. Rusty is a key member of the Hurricane defensive
line but he is not the only member of that unit. The Canes have quality depth
at every position and believe me there will be more than adequate backup in
place come Saturday. I don't know if coach Erickson will bring Ceaser O'neal
in off of red shirt status to play this year. If he does the Canes may be
giving up a little bit of speed on the outside but they will gain about 110 lbs.
of muscle over what Rusty provided at the end position. I'm hoping that Ceasar
does get to see some action this year because I have a feeling he may just be
the most dominating Defensive lineman the Canes have ever fielded. 

Kevin Fagan, Cortez Kennedy, Dan Stubbs, Jerome (God bless his soul) Brown,
these were all standout players for the Canes but Ceasar O'neal has greater
size and more physical tools than any of them. If he has the heart to go along
with it he might make us Canes fans all but forget those other players.

And as far as the FSU and upcoming Pepsi State games go, don't worry the Canes
will not only win, they'll do it with the style and grace that has become
their trademark of recent years. They'll rub the Noles and Littany Nions (sic)
noses in the dirt and then step on them. If you're a Nole or Pepsi State fan,
get ready cause the Canes will be in your face.

John T.
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