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From: dugdell@grizzly.uoregon.edu (Richard Dugdell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Top 5 Defenses?
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:56:40 GMT
Organization: U.S. Naval Research Laboratory, Washington D.C.

In article <1992Aug27.143448.17794@usho93.hou281.chevron.com>, hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde) writes:
|> (TIMOTHY M. MCCARTHY) writes:
|> > I'm curious about peoples view on the best DEEE's this year.
|> > 
|> > I'd say:
|> > 1. Houston
|> > 2. Denver
|> > 3. Chicago
|> > 4. Washington
|> > 5. New Orleans
|> 
|> Yeah!  Mine:
|> 
|> 1. New Orleans
|> 2. Philly
|> 3. Washington
|> 4. Kansas City
|> 5. Houston
|> 
My picks follow:

1. Philly
2. New Orleans
3. Kansas City
4. Washington
5. Houston
6. Denver (?)
7. Chicago (?)

Good Luck to all this year.

...GO BIRDS...

Rich...
From: rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Bill Bidwill
Keywords: no class
Date: 1 Sep 92 15:17:17 GMT

Well if the minor blurb in my local paper is correct, Bill bidwill has
once again shown why is the biggest jerk to own a team in the NFL. 
Every NFL team cut down to 47 players yesterday, including the Phoenix
Cardinals owned by Bidwill. 27 teams announced their cuts which appear
in the transaction section of the sports page, 1 team(guess which one)
sent their 47 man roster to the NFL but made no public announcement,
and did NOT notify the players yet as to who is on the final 47 man
roster!

I'm sure the official version is along the lines of not needing to notify
anybody but the NFL, or hoping to hide a cut so they can bring the player
back, but if the story was true that even the players don't know yet(the
story quoted a backup center as saying the players were "in the dark"
so it appears they weren't notified yet). 

Its hard enough to be a Card fan when they lose year after year, have botched
so many #1 draft picks, bungle contract negotiations, etc., but this 
appears to be a case of simply not giving a damn about the players.
I put the blame on Bidwill moreso than on Bugel or Larry Wilson, because
he is the man with all the power on this club.

I really hope this story turns out to be false and just a misunderstanding,
because I would really hate to think that the Cards care that little about
their players that they would make the final cuts and not notify the 
affected players right away.




Russ Smith
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Subject: American Football Season
From: roberts@dme.nt.gov.au (roberts@dme.nt.gov.au)
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:48:48 +0900
Reply-To: roberts@dme.nt.gov.au
Distribution: world
Organization: Northern Territory Department of Mines & Energy

Can anyone tell me when the season ends, and also how hard is it to get tickets
for games (eg are they all sold in advance or can you get tham at the gate easily)

	Thanks.
From: baker2668@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Lions News
Date: 2 Sep 92 13:16:59 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <1992Sep2.171603.16383@col.hp.com>, mw@col.hp.com (Mike Waughn) writes:


> 
> (Detroit) WR
> Willie Green*
> Brett Perriman*
> Mike Farr*
> Herman Moore*
> Reggie Barrett
> Jeff Campbell
> Aubrey Mathews
> (I think I may be missing one here)

Isn't Mel Gray still with the team?  I thought I have seen in the boxscores and
he has even run a couple of punts back for TDs.  But I am really unsure about
this.

BBB

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From: dwelch@mpd.tandem.com (Dan Welch)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49ers:Haley traded
Date: 27 Aug 92 17:42:20 GMT
Organization: Tandem Computers (MPD) Austin, TX

In article <1992Aug27.134613.18884@bnr.ca> emilio@crchh444.BNR.CA (Emilio Rivera) writes:
>In article <1992Aug27.055736.1305@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com>,
>marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall) writes:
>>The 49ers dumped Charles Haley on the Dallas Cowboys today. I guess they
>>were finally fed up with babying him.
>   Maybe you can shed some light on this trade.   WHY?  WHY?
>   Why would the niners trade or dump a proven pass rusher
>    like Haley?

Along the same lines, could someone provide a history, or stats, etc.,
about Haley?  What prompted the above "babying" comment?  I don't know
a whole lot about him, but am now very interested to find out.

Daniel Welch
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From: dls@achilleus.austin.ibm.com (David Skeen)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Browns News - Aug 28th
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:55:33 GMT
Reply-To: David Skeen <dls@dce.austin.ibm.com>
Organization: IBM Austin (PSP)

So the Browns are worried about center.  Was Baab that bad?  Why did
they waive him if Thome wasn't ready to get the job done?  Who's left
at center--Thome and Zeno?

One more question, since I'm getting forgetful here on the brink of
middle age.  What ever happened to the Miami C-G who was supposed to
replace Baab the last couple years?  He was the early second rounder
taken by the Browns in the infamous draft when we took Junkin early in
the first (by-passing Shane Conlan).

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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Packer notes
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date: 31 AUG 92 10:23:02    

I heard a radio report a short time ago that Mike Tomczak has been 
cut.  Classic example of a player holding out 'till he loses his job.  
I'm sure somebody will pick him up eventually - if not right away a 
couple of weeks into the season when injuries start kicking in.  (From 
the August 27 Packer Plus which is put out by the Milwaukee Sentenel: 
"... despite the surprisingly strong play of the rookie Detmer, 
Tomczak remains a heavy favorite to earn the one available quarterback 
spot."  HA!)

I didn't catch the names of all the players cut but other's gone are:
RB - Greg Bell
FB - Steve Avery
OL - Dave Vieane
OT - Louis Cheek
TE - Jerry Evans
TE - Darryl Ingram

So the Packers went with only 2 TEs.  And Greg Bell's comeback is over 
(at least with the Packers).  Also, Ty Detmer has done it again - he's 
proved everyone wrong and made the roster.  I think we should start 
saying that there's no way he can ever win the SB and hope that he 
proves us wrong again.

No news about Terrell Buckley.  Last rumor was that he'd lowered his 
asking price to $1.5 M which wouldn't be too far from the Pack's offer 
of $1.35 M per year.

Brian Noble also remains unsigned.  He has lowered his asking price 
from $1+ M to $800 K.  Packers last offer was $700 K.  Noble says he 
just wants as much as Ruettgers and Moran who are both getting around 
$800 K.  Noble made $600 K last year.

John G. Heim                                 Email:  heim@macc.wisc.edu

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will notify you of the situation by assuming an appearance that, for the most
part, is dark and lifeless." - The Adventures of Lone Wolf Scientific
From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 1992 Forecast
Date: 25 Aug 92 18:34:38 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah

In article <1992Aug24.051302.16628@ncsu.edu> delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu (DERRELL EMERY LAROCQUE) writes:




>  Four problems with your predictions:

>    #1. San Fransisco will lose to New Orleans and Atlanta at least once,
>        which means they will not win the NFC West. Montana is washed up.

By this logic, New Orleans and Atlanta will each lose to the 49ers once, and 
Atlanta will lose to New Orleans once, and New Orleans will lose to Atlanta 
once. If they all split, SF *WILL* win the NFC West.
	Montana may be washed up, but Young and Bono aren't.
	Rice will sign.
	
	Superbowl '93, Niners WIN! 

>delarocq@eos.ncsu.edu


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From: wwr@calmasd.prime.com
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Hilgenberg Trade Official
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:49:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: calmasd.1992Sep2.084952.733
Organization: Computervision - A Division of Prime Computer

>    For the last couple of years Hilgenberg couldn't even lift his left
>   arm above chest high.  At the end of last season he couldn't even dress
>   himself because of the pain and lack of mobility in his shoulder.  

	This the third or fourth time that I've seen this same comment on Jay. 
The surgery on his elbow was before *last* season.  That thing about not being
able to dress himself was something that happened *before*-*last*-*season*. 
The surgery *was* successful (that's why he did the long snapping *last* year).

He had been in a steady decline for the past
>   couple of years.  Still....you hate to see someone go that gave so much to
>   the team.  

	I agree with both of these statements, BUT -- the Browns still made out
like bandits!  There should be no reason why the Bears don't get a 2nd rounder,
so I suppose we'll have to hold of judgement on this trade for a couple of
years, but, up front - for immediate help/quality - there's no doubt that
Cleveland jobbed Chicago.

	I don't know what it is about Chicago management that makes them,
virtually, throw away veterans who balk about pay, or may have a slight injury. 
Dave Duerson was just simply cut, likewise Todd Bell (I get sick thinking that
Todd Bell *and* Al Harris both held out the Super Bowl season - AAGH! Imagine
what that team would've been like with the addition of those two... excuse me I
have to hurl), now add Jay Hilgenberg.
	The Bears seem to have a "with us, or agin us" type attitude & if
you're agin them, they have no need of you, best just to unload you.  
	I suppose the exception would be the pomp & ceremony that they retired
Jimbo Covert with after his season ending back injury.
	I certainly hope that this trend turns itself around.

walter
From: nitin@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Physical Graffiti)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Chicago Q'Back
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:20:01 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Houses of the Holy

In article <6339@vtserf.cc.vt.edu>, greenfie@vtserf.cc.vt.edu (Steve Greenfield) writes:
> Doesn't Chicago have a rookie quarterback from Virginia Tech?  I should
> remember his name; is it Will Furer (or something like that)?  I believe
> he is a lefty.  What happened to him?  There was an article in our
> collegiate newspaper that said he was going to be on a show Thursday
> broadcast by WGN.  Is this true?
> 
> Watching him play last year for the Hokies I could see that he had a
> chance.  After the Blue-Grey game (I believe he played in that one), in
> which he was MVP, you had to think he had a shot.  Watching the Bears
> over the years struggle with below average Q'Backs, you fans may take an
> interest in Will.
> 
> Can anyone who is closer to the Bear situation fill us in with all the
> details?  Thanks much!


Will Furrer was kept on the final 47 roster as the 3rd backup.
Paul Justin (a local high school star) was cut.


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From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Any news/expectations on...
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:07:00 GMT
Organization: Chevron


Any info/expectations/injury notes on the following players:

QB Chris Miller (Falcons)
QB K. O'Brien, NYJ       -- is this guy even starting?

RB Neil Anderson (Bears) -- is he ready?
RB Brad Baxter (Jets)    -- TD man again?
RB L. Hoard, CLEV
RB V. Dunbar, NO
RB J. Johnson, PHX       -- is he in practice?

WR Gary Clark (Redskins)
WR Fred Barnett(Eagles)
WR T. Barnett, KC    
WR F. Turner, NO

TE Ethan Horton (Raiders)
TE K. McKeller, BUFF     -- is he still there?

K  Chip Lohmiller (Redskins)
K  K. Willis, TB


Yes, yes, its FFL....
Thanks in advance....


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From: johna@psdcae1.gvg.tek.com (John Abt)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: 49er News
Date: 4 Sep 92 07:23:07 GMT
Organization: Grass Valley Group, Grass Valley, CA

In article <1992Sep2.192535.19600@enterprise.rdd.lmsc.lockheed.com> marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com writes:
>A story in the Peninsula Times-Tribune (a small Palo Alto newspaper) says
>that Joe Montana is really pissed about his being placed on IR, and has
>stated that he wants out of the last year of his contract at the end of
>this season. So who does Joe think is going to pick up a 37-year old QB
>with a sore arm who hasn't played in two years, and pay him $2.5 million
>to boot?

Raiders.

But I think that if Joe does get back to 100%, he'll get his job
back soon enough - Young will sooner or later hang it out there too
far and get hurt, or, get benched after a 2 or 3 game losing streak.
(Although I also believe he could have a great year.)
If Joe doesn't get back to form this year, well, then it's probably 
over ...but maybe not.

John Abt
From: mudge@hfrd.dsto.gov.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: 49er Tickets Wanted
Date: 4 Sep 92 15:15:43 GMT
Organization: High Frequency Radar Division - Defence Science and Technology Organisation

Is there anyone out there who would be able to get three tickets to the 49er v.
Detroit game on Monday, 28th of December? Some friends of mine are making the
trip to the States and are _desperate_ to see a 49er match. This was the only
way we could think of to get them tickets in advance.

If anyone can help me with this, I will be very grateful. If you can either get
tickets, or know how I can get them from Australia, please e-mail me with the
details of how, where and how much.

Thanks in advance,

David Mudge

High Frequency Radar Division
Defence Science and Technology Organisation
Salisbury, South Australia.
e-mail:  mudge@hfrd.dsto.gov.au
From: exujeff@exu.ericsson.se (Jeff Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Packer notes
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:27:43 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Inc.


Help please,
I need your opinion on Workman VS Ricky Ervins for FF league.	
thanks	
/jeff



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>From: tkelsey@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (todd.p.kelsey)
>Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
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>Date: 1 Sep 92 16:10:33 GMT
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>In article <1992Sep1.144910.785@cis.ohio-state.edu> martens@laurel.cis.ohio-state.edu (Jeff Martens) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep1.122233.18784@cbfsb.cb.att.com> tkelsey@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (todd.p.kelsey) writes:
>>
>>       [ ... ]
>>
>>>Additional IR 8-31-92
>>>---------------------
>>>OL Joe Garten
>>
>>This hurts OL depth.  Who's behind Moran and Hallstrom?  For that
>>matter, who's backing up anyone?  Expect at least two OL to be picked
>>up this week, maybe Cheek and Viaene.
>>

>I don't think they have any backup guards.  Frank Winters is the backup
>center and the long snapper.  I believe Harvey Salem made the team as a
>tackle and, of course, there's Mandarich.  He appears destined for IR.
>I would anticipate the Packers picking up some OL.

>>>I also heard RUMORED that Charles Wilson was placed on IR and was told
>>>he would be waived when healthy.  I've not had this confirmed.  
>>
>>       [ ... ]
>>
>>Wilson is on IR.

>According to my count that leaves the Packers with only 4 receivers
>on the team (Sharpe, Beach, Brooks, and Taylor).  Interestingly, only
>Sharpe was on the team last year.  The purge of Lindy's players is on.

>-Todd
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: STEELERS (and other starting QBs)
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:32:20 GMT

In article <gedVQwi00WDKI8Endz@andrew.cmu.edu> Vernon H Harmon <vh00+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Since we've recently had an influx of returning students who haven't yet
>paid enough attention to find these things out, here's as complete a
>list of starters as I can come up with.

(my comments are encased in "<<<" and ">>>" symbols.  LEJ)
>
>Buf:	Kelly
>NYJ:	O'Brien
>NE:	McMillan (is this right?) <<< Hugh Millen >>>
>Mia:	Marino
>Indy:	George (I seem to recall hearing he was hurt.....?!)
>Pit:	O'Donnell (yes, it's official)
>Cle:	Bernie
>Cin:	Boomer
>Hou:	Moon (yes, he signed)
>Den:	Elway
>KC:	Kreig
>SD:	Gagliano (yes, it's official)
>Sea:	Stouffer (is it official, yet?)
>Raid:	Schroeder
>Skins:	Rypien
>NYG:	(can't remember his name---not Simms) <<< Jeff Hostetler >>>
>Phoe:	(can't remember his name) <<< Rosenbaugh >>>
>Dal:	Aikman
>Phil:	Cunningham
>Det:	Peete
>GB:	Majkowski
>Chi:	(can't think of his name) <<< Jim Harbaugh >>>
>TB:	Testaverde
>Min:	Gannon
>SF:	Young
>NO:	Hebert
>Atl:	Miller (I think)
>Rams:	(can't remember his name either, but you know who he is) <<< Evertt >>>
>
>
>--Vernon.


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Date: Friday, 28 Aug 1992 16:51:36 MST
From: <IDSWB@ASUACAD.BITNET>
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Cardinal Question

In article <1992Aug24.195236.12357@colorado.edu>, davewood@bruno.cs.colorado.edu
(David Rex Wood) says:
>
>Does anyone have any information about a RB named I. Brown (Ivory Lee Brown,
>I think) of the Phoenix Cardinals?  Will he start?  Will he play?  etc...
>                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
                  Yes he is.        IMHO, Probably not.
                                   The most likely canidates are
                                   Anthony Thompson or Johnny
                                   Johnson (if signed).
Will he play?
  The Cards would be extremely idiotic if they didn't at least use him.  I
  mean, after all, he led the WFL in yards rushing this last year.

>Thanks.
>
>-davewood

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From: harsh@eceris.ece.ncsu.edu (Harsh Potlapalli)
Subject: NFC Superbowl Streak
Organization: North Carolina State University, Raleigh
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1992 00:02:49 GMT

The NFC has won the last 8 SBs and 9 of the last 10 (?).  And it looks like 
the NFC will win the '93 SB also. Anyone care to guess which unfortunate NFC 
team will have to bear the onus for ending the streak? Also, how about which 
year this is going to happen? I am pulling for Minnesota so they can be the 
only NFL team to lose 5 SBs :). 

-harsh
(harsh@eceris.ece.ncsu.edu)
From: athos@apple.com (Rick Eames)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Seifert High?
Date: 28 Aug 92 18:33:50 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.football.pro
Organization: Apple Computer, Inc.

I just can't believe he named Steve "Not Doing Well" Young as the official
starter over Bono *and* Montana.  This will be a dismal season.

--
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From: nate@ghidrah.Central.Sun.COM (Nate McConnell FE/SSE Grand Rapids, MI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Dolphins
Date: 26 Aug 92 05:55:46 GMT
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In article 19618@cs.ucf.edu, tech@cs.ucf.edu (Tony Travaglini) writes:
>
>As of now I have no idea if their will be a game Thursday night. Does
>anyone else have any idea?
>
That game is in Baltimore isn't it?




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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: Help on Television BlackOut Rules
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 20:32:36 GMT

In article <STEVES.92Aug27085008@kuwait.gdfwc3> steves@gdfwc3 (Steve Strauss) writes:
>In article <BtMKMy.L30@acsu.buffalo.edu> v134junv@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Donald A Martin) writes:
>
>>	   My girlfriend and I have been at this for a year.  What exactly are
>>   the requirements for lifting the local television blackout.  Buffalo's Rich 
>>   Stadium has 80,290 seats.  Exactly how many tickets need to be sold in order
>>   to lift the blackout?
>
>Exactly 80,290.

And the 80,290th ticket has to be sold at least 72 hours before kick-off.
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