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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Viz's Ranma...
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 04:22:55 GMT

In article <tal691.727672897@huxley>, tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes:
> 
> Widya "Gerald Jones is the best!" Santoso

Actually, he's been getting better.  I was able to enjoy the last couple
of issues.

[Oh, great.  Now CPK is going to flame *both* of us...]
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From: conty@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (E. Kontei)
Subject: Re: Ragnarok Guy
Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 07:09:52 GMT

In article <rec.arts.manga.9301280154.AA04069@syzygy.socs.uts.EDU.AU>, axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au writes:
> 
> That's the way a lot of manga is.  For any given week, "nothing" can happen.
> (Or any given volume, even.)  For the artist, it's a 6-, 7- or 8-day-a-week
> job, and if the artist is feeling poorly or devoid of ideas, it's a
> "nothing" week.

Which is one of my major complaints about periodical stories, be it in
the American-style monthly comic book or the weekly manga compilation.
I say that the writer should be allowed to create at his/her own pace,
and not forced into delivering inferior material because of a deadline.
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From: bp652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil W. Lau)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Silent Mobius Chapt 5 --> Huh?
Date: 22 Jan 1993 05:53:10 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
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I'm not exactly sure what Asamiya was thinking of as far as time
continuity in the story.  The Luciferhawk trashes up the AMP office
while Katsumi is at the monument.  Rally decides to nuke the youma,
and in that span of time Katsumi goes home, showers, dresses up,
does her hair, speeds over to the station and joins the gang...
boy, Rally REALLY takes her time taking off her jacket!  :)

Well, awkward continuity aside, my main question was...why the hell
did Katsumi decide to dress up for the fight?  Was Asamiya trying
to be cute here?  After all, she had undress and get back into uniform
later anyways!  Jeez, she even redid her hair!

Sorry, I don't know why this is bugging me so much.  

  -- Gil
From: tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald)
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Subject: Re: Viz's Ranma...
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:21:37 GMT
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dlo@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU writes:

>Hello everyone!  Does anyone know how far Viz is going to go with the Ranma
>translations?  I have no idea how far Viz has covered since I don't have
>any of the original Japanese ones.  How many issues will it take to cover the
>entire series(persuming that Viz will do them all) and how long will it take??
>Thanks...
>Dick

As long as it sells....  And may it sell forever!  (risking a flame from the
venerable E. Kontei!)

Widya "Gerald Jones is the best!" Santoso
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Subject:      AnAm Guest Update
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To: Jeff Siegel <7100P%NAVPGS.BITNET@CORNELLC.cit.cornell.edu>

With all of this talk about Sonoda, I thought r.a.m. folks would be
interested in the following......

----------------------------Original message----------------------------
ANIME AMERICA CONFIRMES KEN'ICHI SONODA AS A GUEST OF HONOR

     Anime America is proud to announce confirmation of Ken'ichi Sonoda as a
Character Designer Guest of Honor for the June 25-27, 1993 anime/manga
convention to be held in Santa Clara, CA. Mr. Sonoda is best known for creating
Bubblegum Crisis, AD Police, Gall Force, Scramble Wars and for his character
designs used in Otaku no Video. He joins a growing list of top writers and
artists to be honored at Anime America.

     Anime America's Guests of Honor:

      Writer GoH:
        Haruka Takachiho - Creator of Dirty Pair and Crusher Joe

      Character Designers:
        Monkey Punch - Creator of Lupin the Third
        Ken'ichi Sonoda - Creator of Bubblegum Crisis, Gall Force, AD Police

      Manga Artist:
        Johji Manabe - Creator of Outlanders, Capricorn and Caravan Kidd

      Comic Artist:
        Adam Warren - Writer/Artist for Dirty Pair comic

      Fan GoH (Japan):
        Yoshihiro Yonezawa - President of Comic Market, Tokyo

      Fan GoH (U.S.):
        Fred Patten - Co-founder of Los Angeles C/FO

     For more information, please write to Anime America at:

           Anime America
           298 4th Avenue, Suite 472
           San Francisco, CA 94118
           Voice Mail: (415) 241-8823
           Fax: (408) 748-9620

Advance memberships are $30 until March 15th. A complete update file reflecting
new information is posted periodically. The file will be uploaded again later
this week.

                                       --- Chris

======================end original message======================


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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 18:35:03 JST
From: vray@cs2.cs.oki.co.jp (Miho NISHIDA)
To: mvcy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Cc: rec-arts-manga%darwin.sura.net@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Hey, look here. (I've read shohjo manga all my life)


>My personal favorite Shojo manga are:
>
>1) Anything by Kumura Minori.  You've got to check her stuff out.  Pretty
>sophisticated often semi-philosophical themes.

What titles has she worked on?

>2) Like-wise SF by Hagio Moto.

How'da liked "Clan of Poe"?  (not SF)

>3) Comedy by Maya Mineo.
>
>Are they still actively writing?  I haven't read anything in over 5 years.

Hagio Moto is still working, but I liked her work best when
she was doing the "Poe".  She's doing more contemporary drama
than SF nowadays.

Maya Mineo is still active.  I believe his Patariro comics reached
volume 49....  (How long can he go on with this stuff?)

Miho aka Griff
From: shimkevi@acs.bu.edu (Sergey Shimkevich)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: GOD SAVE THE Sugekoma-kun!!
Date: 23 Jan 93 07:46:05 GMT
Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA

Is this manga being sold at the mail-order places in the US?

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From: michael@izumi.DIALix.oz.au (Michael Studte)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: WOMAN IN THE MAN - info?
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 93 17:24:59 GMT
Organization: JAFWA, Cal-Animage Zeta, Perth, Western Australia

The HK manga mag Family Comic just started a new manga called WOMAN IN
THE MAN, which most obviously seems to be done by Katsura Masakazu.
Does anyone know which japanese magazine it's serialised in, and if
there are any compiled volumes available so far?

For anyone interested (I can't really tell much from the first few
pages), the girl in it is a definite Ai-Moemi combination, with a
chest-size beating both of them combined. :) It definitely seems a bit
more along the comedy and H streak that Ai was, rather than his Angel
Beat.

Anyone with any info, I'd appreciate some feedback. It looks like fun,
but I can't "read" the chinese version. :)

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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Subject: GOD SAVE THE Sugekoma-kun!!
To: rec-arts-manga@darwin.sura.net
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 11:47:00 +1100 
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I've waited the best part of a year for vol.1 of this manga to come out,
and I am not disappointed. :-)  Even the fj.rec.comics people have been
talking about it.

God Save the Sugekoma-kun! is a series of short stories centering on the
relationship between Sugekoma, a highschool otaku (complete with shirt
pocket full of pens and thick glasses), and his teacher, Matsuzawa.
It's a big send-up of all the H manga cliches, with Sugekoma usually
getting Matsuzawa into outlandish S&M gear - but it's all part of her
attempts to reform him. (*)

(There is a subplot concerning the other students - Junko Fujieda, who
can't stand perverts, they make her violent; and Murata , a masochist who's
infatuated with her. :-)

It's hard to describe Noriko Nagano's style with reference to other
artists, because her work is so original and refreshing.  In terms
of mood, it's not unlike Tony Takezaki's parody manga (but the art is
completely different).  Maybe "Rumiko Takahashi on speed and ecstasy"
comes somewhere near the mark.  You just have to see it, really. :-)

Get your copy now (Y530, Wide KC Young Magazine); my attempts to find/order
other works by Nagano Noriko have all ended fruitlessly.  I am willing to
pay Video Girl Ai-type prices for the following:
   SF Motion
   Give Me Tama-chan
   Misutenai de Daisy

Any comments, synopses, translations, etc. are more than welcome, of
course. :-)

(*) Not sure about this. :-)


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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Subject: Re: Sailor Moon in Young Jump?
To: rec-arts-manga@darwin.sura.net
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 18:14:17 +1100 
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(BTW, I spoke too soon about Otomo - Legend of Mother Sarah resumes in
Young Magazine #8.)


Michael Edwards (michaele@nsg.com.au) writes:
 >Oss! Karatebu shaping up to another big fight
 
Not just "another big fight", it's going to be THE Big Fight.  Takagi has
summoned the entire forces of the Kantou and Kansai regions - Roppongi,
Ginza, Ikebukuro, Sumida, Chiba, Ibaraki, Tochigi, Saitama, Kanagawa,
Gunma, Wakayama, Nara, Kyouto, and Hyougo - to destroy the biggest
yakuza clan in Japan.  J.h. christ, the pages of Young Jump are
going to run red with blood. :-)

 >[um.. Iain you haven't posted that guide yet have you?]

Yes, I have.  I expect everyone here to memorize it.  (^_^)

 >Who is Rika Takahashi

Dunno.  Anyone?


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From: jtl2447@ultb.isc.rit.edu (J.T. Liu)
Subject: Re: Jademan comics titles...weird
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:54:46 GMT

In article <9301212334.aa10947@Bonnie.ics.uci.edu> dlo@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Dickinson Lo) writes:
>I don't know if this is considered manga, but anyways, I've noticed
>that two of the Jademan titles(Blood Sword and Oriental Heros)seem to
>have the title mistranslated.  I can read chinese, and the english
>names just don't match(unlike the rest which does, these are the only
>two).  First of all, the verbatim translation to Oriental Heros's
>chinese title is"Gate of Tiger and Dragon", while Blood Sword
>translateds to...youguessed it, "Oriental Heros" !  Did they switch
>the english titles or something?  Has this ever been asked?
>

The first rule of translation is that you can't translate word by word.
"Gate of Tiger and Dragon"
 ^^^^
In this case, the gate means Gang, Clan, School, etc.  The word can also
mean door.

I'll give you another example.  "to eat tofu" can mean take advantage of
someone.
From: chanwp@zoomaster.zoology.washington.edu (W. P. Chan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Compiled volume of KOR
Date: 24 Jan 1993 06:20:34 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
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Is there a difference in the ending for the KOR manga in the hardbound compiled  
volume as compared to the original softcover manga?

Many thanks!

Pang (chanwp@zoology.washington.edu)
From: chunger@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Chung-Mau Cheng)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: How manga is done
Date: 27 Jan 1993 22:08:46 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin, Texas
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 tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald) writes

> As for ink, can anyone suggest a good white ink to use.  So far,
> all the ones I've tested are just too diluted to use.

I use a brand called (I could be wrong, I have a horrible memory) 
Rottin or something like that. It's not so thick as to completely
coverup a black area completely, but usually enough so that it
appears white in photocopies. Frankly, though, I usually just go
over a line a few times (once or twice) if it's not white enough.
I don't think there is a brand out there that is thick enough to
cover black completely, except for maybe white-out, but that's a 
horrible idea. Forget I ever mentioned "white-out" in this post. :)

Hope this helps!

Later,
The Chunger :)
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From: axolotl@socs.uts.edu.au
Subject: Re: How to draw manga
To: rec-arts-manga@darwin.sura.net
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:33:59 +1100 
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Widya Santoso writes:
 >You'll find some artists prefer H leads, because it doesn't smudge the
 >board.  I find I'm going that way more and more.

If you draw with those pencils a lot, you'll find that they require a lot
more physical exertion (that's important if you do it for a living) - as
far as both drawing and erasing are concerned.   The smudge of B pencils
isn't a problem if you use any or all of: a magic pad, a good eraser, a rubber
thimble on your little finger.

 >I'm using thick nib oil pens rather than big brushes to cover large areas
 >of black, but using screen tones is better for the printer.

Black markers do the job quicker than either.

 >As for ink, can anyone suggest a good white ink to use.  So far,
 >all the ones I've tested are just too diluted to use.

They're not diluted, they just have to be mixed properly.  Most of the
art-shop white drawing inks are fine for drawing details on screentone
(you're supposed to be able to do that by scraping it with a blade, but
that doesn't work for me).  Gouache has good opacity, but a strange
kind of consistency.  Process white is also worth trying, but is pretty
fiddly.

 >In Will Eisner's superlative "How To" book, _Comics & Sequential Art_, he
 >terms a "box" as a "frame", and a "frame" as a "panel".

I suppose so, but looking at some manga (esp. shoujo manga), you don't
even have the concept of "panel", "speech bubble", etc.  It's totally
free-form (well, not totally - there are lots of common stylistic
conventions to choose from and develop).

 >Anyone serious about doing comics must buy _Comics & Sequential Art_.

Yes, anyone serious about doing COMICS.  Several thousand manga artists
seem to have survived without it, though.

 >Brought to you by (but not responsible for, and don't send mail to...)

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From: rahn@cs.UAlberta.CA (Rahn Andrew Erich)
Subject: HOBBY JAPAN WANTED
Organization: University of Alberta, Edmonton, Canada
Distribution: rec.arts.manga
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 20:34:50 GMT


Does anybody know where I can mail order issues of HOBBY JAPAN
magazine?  Any information would be greatly appreciated.

- Thanks in advance.

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From: ig65@vaxb.acs.unt.edu
Subject: COBRA
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 05:56:44 GMT

Does anyone know any thing about the series "Cobra" from Viz Comics?

-Chris Palomares
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From: jane@soave.swdc.stratus.com (Jane Beckman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Jademan Comics
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:16:47 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

So, did they say the were tying up all their efforts, or, or just
starting a new round of products?  The post wasn't clear.  

Personally, I like some of their limited publications, like
"Jademan Opens the Gates of Night."
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From: parsogd@wkuvx1.bitnet (Geoffrey Parsons, WKU)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.manga
Subject: Re: Bret Hartford is still around
Date: 25 Jan 93 09:42:21 CST
Organization: Western Kentucky University, Bowling Green, KY

In article <C18wGt.BFs@world.std.com>, chadwick@world.std.com (Chadwick Ngan) writes:
> 
> 	Guess what?  I got the rest of my order from Bret Hartford (aka
> Manga-chan) today.  The postage is dated Janurary 13th.  So, those of you
> who are anxiously waiting for your merchandise, have a little more patience.
> It may take a long time, but it will arrive eventually.
> 

  Well, I have been trying to contact Manga-Chan for over a month now
to no avail. I have sent and received replies from him in the past, so
e-mail has been possible. Since I am unable to get a reply
from Bret, could some kind soul tell me the cost and shipping on
 _Interon Depot_? Thanks.

Geoffrey
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Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 18:48:39 JST
From: vray@cs2.cs.oki.co.jp (Miho NISHIDA)
To: rec-arts-manga%darwin.sura.net@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Shohjo Manga Fans

For the few shohjo manga readers, I was wondering for what titles and
authors people have the most interest.  Just a curiosity, but since
I like to post reviews of shohjo manga on the net, I might start with
something people are familiar with.  This doesn't mean I will be
doing a synopsis, (that takes too long) but I do plan on writing
a rough outline of the manga in the report (like I did for Kanatakara
by Hikawa Kyohko).

Miho 

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Subject: FTP locations for translations
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	Hello all. I've seen some translations on ram in the past and there are
a list of FTP sites in the FAQ. However most of these files are anime related.
I don't have FTP access so I use FTP by mail which means I can't browse easily.
Could someone point me in the right direction.
	I'm interested in using the scripts for learning Japanese. I am living
in Japan so I have access to anything published here.
	Thanks in advance.

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