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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:53:43 EDT
From:         Doug Cutler <UNCDWC@UNCVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Soffit vents.

  I know that this isn;t technically a woodwork question however I also know
that there are a number of persons into "home restoration/improvement" on
this list ....


  The time has come to have a new roof put on our house.  A number of people
have remarked that the last roof didn't last as long as expected because of
heat build up in the attics. We have a two story house with independent attics
and we have put an extractor fan in the lower one, it was easy as this is a
walk in storage area, but the upper one is a dog to get into so I haven't
done that one yet.  It seems to me that as the shigles are going to be of we
should have ridge vents put in, the roofers that we have talked to all do this
work and it seems to be no problem.  However in order to make them affective we
will also need soffit vents and that is a different ball of wax.  There seem to
be three type, "Strip Vents" that involve removing the woodwork to cut long
slots.  Nobody wants to takle this, they say the cost would be too high.
"Plug" vents some 2" diameter, just drill a hole and push them in.  "Register
Vents" 8"x12" or some similar dimensions.  We have 4 estimates and the area
of venting is all over the place.  Does anybody know how to calculate what it
should be? also any other experiences would be very welcome.  We are looking
at a $4K project so I need to have it done right!!!!!


  Doug. Cutler                       Office of Information Technology,
  VM Systems Programmer              University of North Carolina.
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Subject: Re: Smoothing edges from a table saw cut(HOW?)
Date: 25 Aug 92 19:46:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA

scotth@harirud.com (Scott Herzinger) writes:
: In article <1992Aug24.224132.16593@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com> billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) writes:
: 
:    : I tried routing the wood(it is plywood) and I soon noticed that 
:    : this isn't a very good idea.  Aside from buying a joiner, is
:    : there another way to "straighten" out the edges?  Is there a
:    : special router bit that can do it?  I could plane it but that
:    : seems like it would take too long.
: 
:    A jointer is the easiest method.
: 
: Just want to insert this caveat for the unaware: edge jointing plywood
: is one of the quickest ways known to dull and nick jointer knives. A
: lot of shops prohibit plywood on the jointer. Think of all the glue
: and edge grain that you're putting against the knives. You're likely
: to put nicks in your knives, and certain to dull them more quickly.

Yep, unless you have carbide cutters, the knives will not last long.

: Here's an idea  for the original question, using a router:
: 
: Clamp a straight edge to your work piece. Hopefully you have one
: that's long enough. If not, a good one's not cheap, but lots less than
: a jointer. Then use a pattern bit or flush trimming bit, referencing
: off the straight edge. You could probably use a template guide with a
: regular straight bit. The basic idea is to use a straight edge as a
: template.  It's tough on the router bit, but not as bad as on the
: jointer knives.  The router bit is typically carbide tipped, whereas
: most jointer knives are high speed steel and a pain to sharpen and
: set.

I suggested that alternative. Cost wise, it is probably the best 
method - unless you are willing to use a hand plane.

With practice, it is fairly easy to set the jointer knives. The problem
is getting them sharpened properly.

Bill
From: tatem@tralfamadore.csc.ti.com (Joe Tatem)
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Subject: Re: Water and Wood: A beginner's question
Date: 2 Sep 92 16:45:40 GMT
Organization: Texas Instruments

In article <mdc.715403293@crux1.cit.cornell.edu> mdc@crux1.cit.cornell.edu (Mark D. Crimmins) writes:
>Supposing this is serious (which it it probably is and no problem with
>that), ripsawn lumber is cut along the grain (down the tree), which
>leaves grain lines the length of the board.  Almost all lumber you see
>is like this.  An exception would be a slice of tree-trunk, of the
>kind they make coffee-tables out of.
>
>Mark

Yes, it was serious. I remember seeing something on it a (long) while
back with a picture showing what the end grain looked like. There were
also pictures of others. I was under the impression that rip sawn was
distinct from flat sawn and quarter sawn and was curious what the
difference was and what the resultant properties were.

					Joe Tatem
					tatem@csc.ti.com
From: jabarnes@batph5.bnr.ca (Jeff Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
Subject: Sewing Cabinets - Plans needed
Date: 26 Aug 92 20:36:00 GMT
Reply-To: jabarnes@bnr.ca
Distribution: world
Organization: BNR Atlanta

I am also interested in finding plans for Sewing Cabinets. Please 
post the information or send it to me.

THANKS

Jeff Barnes                      jabarnes@bnr.ca
BNR Inc.                     
705 Westech Drive
Norcross, GA 30092
Newsgroups: rec.woodworking
From: mccormic@bnr.ca (Shawn McCormick)
Subject: Re: Ryobi 10" Precision Cutting System
Reply-To: mccormic@bnr.ca (Shawn McCormick)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 12:49:11 GMT

I have the BT3000 and am quite pleased with it. Here
in Canada, the list price is $1099, although the 
average price is in the $700-$800 range, with no 
stand. The saw is light enough to drag around the house
and seems to perform quite well. I will agree with 
other posters however; the saw is better suited to the
intermediate woodworker and it's light weight also 
makes for a few problems. My mitre table needs adjustment
and tightening after runnning a bunch of 2x4s and 2x6s
through it (100 cuts). Part of the problem might have
been my fault as the wood may not have been supported 
as well as it should have (it was fairly long).

If you have any specific questions just post them - I
don't have email access.

Shawn McCormick
Bell Northern Research
Ottawa, Ontario, Canada, eh!
(613) 763-7339
From: owen@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Jens Owen)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:45:16 GMT
Subject: Re: SNOWBOARDING: Burton
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, Fort Collins, CO, USA
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

In rec.skiing, Gen.M.Kanai@dartmouth.edu (Gen M. Kanai) writes:

> Any snowboarders out there, clue me in.  I just started boarding last
> year and bought myself an AsymAir, which I love.  I was using the flex
> binding cause I like the support and I am moving to hardboots/plate
> bindings, cause I think thats the wave of the future for everything
> except the pipe and living in the East means ice.  
> 
> My question is this.  Has everyone seen the new Burton inserts?  Are
> they crazy?  I know they tested it for a year ans ironed out some
> troubles that they sadi they had, but the physics of this design is
> nuts!  I realize that now there is preactically infinite degree
> adjustment, but wont the heel and toe totally flex off the base?  All
> the inserts are in the middle and plus they have three screws right
> next to each other, which just begs to be stripped in my opinion.  
> 
> I had problems with my bindings coming off the board in the toe and
> heel with last year's model.  THis new year's model looks to be even
> worse.  

Last Season I bought a pair of Burton Variplate bindings.  Of the 
50 plus days I boarded, less than 10 of those days were on those 
f***ing bindings.

The flexable rods snapped four separate times.  The screws securing the 
rods to the mounting plate, striped the mounting plate twice.  Each time
the local shop sent them back to Burton and I had to wait 2-4 weeks for
them to be replaced.

I weigh ~190lbs and am 6'5", so the stress I've applied using Nitro's 
186 cm freestyle board is more than usual.  The thing is that I never 
have had a problem with the inserts on my board, the bindings would 
always blowup before there was too much pressure for the inserts.

> Has anyone tried it?  What do they think?  I feel royally screwed over
> because I had to hunt for last year's binding and now nothing is
> interchangeable with my board, which was the atraction of Burton. 
> Nikon's new 92 auto focus lenses fit on their 1967 cameras.  These are
> the ideas that make or break reputations and companies.  I might switch
> to Nitro. What have people ridden and what do they like?

One caution on Nitro.  Don't drill the board in any way.  Just use the
inserts that are already there.  I've seen at least 3 Nitro Diablos that
have splintered because of T-Bolt holes that were drilled in them.

Jens
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Re: Beginning
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 21:09:36 GMT

In article <1340308@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com> glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com
(Glen Baker) writes:
Beginnings
>  - Trying to ski anywhere *near* as well as my brother. <grumble grumble>
>
>  - A college roommate who was the most natural skier I've ever seen.
>
>  - "What? You actually hike to places that aren't lift serviced? Are
>    you nuts?"

Ah, same here.  Intermediate:

	- "Oh yeah, that Mindy, we would be working in the winter on South
	Cascade Glacier.  During storms, we'd all get drunk inside the
	cabin, and Mindy would be out there skiing amid the avalanches."

	- Imagines of Keith, Mindy's boyfriend at the time, skiing
	down from Conundrum Pass in CO with a Kelty frame pack on
	wooden skis with old cable bindings.  And doing it without effort.

	- Skiing at sunset in parallel with Keith in Sequoia National Park.

	- Waist deep powder days at Snowbird (and Alta), but the Snowbird days
	just happened to be nicest.

	- Aspen, fresh new.  All the non-powder skiers crashing and burning
	in the first 100 yards of a run.  Sets up a reef so that other
	less experienced skiers can't pass thus giving powder to those who
	make it thru.

	- Driving to the top of Sugarbowl (again next weekend) on the way into
	one of our huts.

>  - Cold, wet, rocks, powder, crud, blown knee, cliffs, chutes,
>    moguls, steeps, high speed, crash and burn, friends, locals,
>    tourists, beer, incredible views, scared to death, 5:00 am
>    on the back of a groomer with a pack full of dynamite,
>    smiles, frowns, FREEDOM!

	- Keith saying he went to buy some explosives for seismic work and
	them saying, "Well don't you want to test one?"

> I'm still learning.

Ditto.

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Resident Cynic, Rock of Ages Home for Retired Hackers
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Second Favorite email message: Returned mail: Cannot send message for 3 days
A Ref: Mathematics and Plausible Reasoning, vol. 1, G. Polya
From: jsalmi@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com ( John Salmi )
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: SNOW IN COLORADO
Date: 26 Aug 92 15:17:40 GMT
Organization: US West Information Technologies, Denver

In article <1992Aug24.190533.20531@infonode.ingr.com> dlb@dazixco.ingr.com writes:
>The remains of tropical storm Lester merged with a cold front are expected
>to produce 2-4" above 10,000' in the Colorado high country today.  Snow cover
>is already being reported on some high passes.
>
>What with the cold summer, any bets on another record year for early
>openings (blacks open before thanksgiving, YA!) ?
>
>Just the news I needed as ski withdrawal is becoming critical!


AUGH!  This morning (wednesday, 8/26) i saw the front page of the rocky
mountain news at the bus stop, and it contained a photo of a guy and his
dog skiing (the guy not the dog) on loveland pass (i think it was loveland).
6 inches of early snow.  

it's coming.  really.  just not fast enough for me.

cheers,
-- 
John Salmi		<jsalmi@uswest.com>		(303) 595-2863

Last night, as I lay awake in bed looking at the stars, I asked myself:
                     Where the heck is my roof?
From: carltonj@media.mit.edu (Carlton J. Sparrell)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Sunday River
Date: 2 Sep 92 21:37:01 GMT
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory

st910131@pip.cc.brandeis.edu writes:
>bobs@Think.COM ( Robert Schwartz) writes:
>>
>>...I would reccomend Sugarloaf USA in Maine.  A few of the areas in 
>>Vermont are great too (not Killington)...
>>
>>Bob Schwartz
>
>NOT KILLINGTON???
>Granted there are other excellent ski areas in Vt., but How can you exclude
>Killington? 
>
> [Reasons deleted]
>
>There are areas that beat Killington in a few categories, but overall
>I've never seen anything that beats it.
>
>Even if it's not your absolute favorite, If you are an educated skier, it
>should be found somewhere  near the top of your list.
>
>							Todd S.

I guess with Killington, those who like it love it, those who don't
hate it.  I have been to most of the major (and minor) areas in ME,
NH, and Vermont, and would not put Killington anywhere near the top
of my list.  My feeling is that the mountain is unwieldy, making it
difficult to get from one part to another without using a series of
lifts, or crosscuts, or crowded trails.  While there are a large number of
trails at every ability level, none of the trails stuck in my mind as
being extra special like doc dempsey's or bubble-cuffer or the front
four at stowe.  I never found much of a lift line at Killington, but
often the congestion aon the trails made up for it.  All in all, I just
found the mountain too "industrial".

Unfortunately,  the trend in new england seems to be towards this type of
ski area.  Many of the recent changes at the loaf have destroyed some of
the personality of the mountain, and Sunday River has become a Killington
wannabe.  Almost all the eastern ski areas are increasing lift capacity
to the point where we wait in line on the slopes and not for the lift.

I look forward to trying Mad River Glen this year, from what I hear it
could be one of the last "corporate" mountains.

Cheers,

CJS
From: TedKahn@cup.portal.com (Theodore E Kahn)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Crested Butte - Free Skiing???
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 21:05:54 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: na
  <SSH.92Aug26160159@snow.boulder.ibm.com>

CB has the steeps all right -- it also has one of the oldest and
slowest chairs in the world to get you to the top!  In general,
CB has an out-dated lift system, but for FREE its worth it, I also
took advantge of the free period last year.

	-Ted
From: glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 22:23:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Need Tahoe Suggestions
Organization: What, me? Organized?
Newsgroups: rec.skiing

In rec.skiing, carlson@dwp.la.ca.us (Carlson Peters x7898) writes:

> Well first off, don't fall prey to the bigger is better syndrome.  I'm
> sure Heavenly, Squaw and Alpine have great beginner programs but you
> will pay big time prices

 Hold on ah say hold on thyar! This is not strictly true. I can't speak
 for Alpine, (and I won't even talk about the H area), but Squaw has
 a first-time skier program that can't be beat...it's free! Free rentals,
 free lift ticket, free lesson. Now this program is limited to first
 time skiers, and the participants get plopped up on Baily's Beach for
 an assembly line kinda lesson (ski from station to station), but for
 somebody who's truly new to the sport the package is unbeatable!

 I suspect Alpine has a similar program. 

> There are plenty of smaller places were you will probably be much more
> welcome and much better cared for. 

 Definately not true. Every area will welcome you, and your checkbook,
 with open cash-boxes, er, arms. Further, I suspect you'll be well
 "cared for" at any area. 

 I'd second a previous poster's response who mentioned that Squaw has
 some great beginner terrain...and it's mostly up high where the snow
 and the views are better. For a more family oriented atmosphere I'd 
 try Sugar Bowl (not sure about their beginner terrain though). For
 an entire area full of beginner terrain try either Boring Hill, er
 Boreal Ridge, or Flatstar, dang, I mean Northstar. 

 ..glen
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jpenovic@encore.com (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Utah: thanks and a question
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 18:30:35 GMT

I want to thank all of you who sent me information about
renting a condo and skiing in Utah. I'm not sure if I
responded to you all, because things were hectic here last
week (power was out for several days).  Anyway, thanks again.

One more question though: Has anyone rented a condo from a
company called Utah Ski Retreats, and was it a good or bad
experience?

jan
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Deer Valley and Park City
From: carlson@dwp.la.ca.us (Carlson Peters x7898)
Date: 28 Aug 92 16:09:28 GMT
Distribution: all
Organization: Los Angeles Dept. of Water & Power

>
>launce> Well you should have.  Try it, you'll like it. Better yet, ski
>launce> Colorado, preferably Vail.
>
>  > Sheila
>  > Sheila Wallace		(shla@spf.trw.com)
>  > TRW, One Space Park, R2/2162, Redondo Beach, CA 90278
>launce>                     
>launce> damn californicators
>
>*yawn*
w3>
>C'mon, gang, this just isn't all that funny anymore.  As if the miniscule
>number of people reading this newsgroup have any effect whatsoever on the
>volume of skier traffic at any major ski resort.  There are likely more skiers
>on the smallest Iowa ski hill on a slow day than readers of this group!  Maybe
>I'm just hungry 'cause I missed breakfast, or maybe the newly whitened peaks of
>the back range have me a bit worked up, but this all seems a bit silly...
>--

I second the above opinion.  In fact I complained about it a few weeks
ago.  The fact is, everybody is so in on this joke that every post
like it is further testament to how great skiing is at 'the worst
place on earth so don't even bother'.  If you don't want people to go
to your favorite ski area, a resounding silence will be much more
effective than in-crowd poo-poo's.  When Bob 'the Bear?' started it
last year it was quite funny to see people come to Alta's "rescue".  Now
only the newest of readers are fooled and probably think this is such
a weenie group that they quit reading before they get it. 

Oh by the way, I flew over CO yesterday and the new snow above timberline
really was nice to see.








-- 
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Carlson Peters			L.A. Dept. of Water & Power
carlson@manta.dwp.la.ca.us	111 N. Hope St., Room 1129
213.481.7898			L.A. CA 90012
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jsalmi@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com ( John Salmi )
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: The Great Killington-Keystone Shootout
Date: 1 Sep 92 18:55:19 GMT
Organization: US West Information Technologies, Denver

In article <640@dwp.la.ca.us> carlson@dwp.la.ca.us (Carlson Peters x7898) writes:

[ stuff about keystone deleted ]
[ my boneheaded reply deleted ]

a JOKE.  it was a JOKE.

sheesh.

	-john
From: hdnea@usho92.hou281.chevron.com (David Neal)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: custom boot fitting in Aspen
Date: 24 Aug 92 01:03:27 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Chevron

Would appreciate any pointers to a good ski-shop in Apsen.

Good means: custom fitting is included in the purchase
price excluding perhaps a custom footbed, working with you until
the boots actually fit correctly, selling you the right boot
for you (based on your needs).


-- 
--
David Neal -- hdnea@hou281.chevron.com 
Conserve water, California's deserts need more cotton farms.
From: rkf@wildrose.infoserv.com (Ray Fink)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Whistler postcard? December conditions?
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 21:44:26 MDT
Distribution: na
Organization: Wild Rose Refugee Camp

Anybody have an unused picture postcard of the Whistler BC ski area
that they'd be willing to send me?  Or are there any readers up in that
area who'd be willing to buy one for me?  I'll reimburse purchase,
postage, etc.  E-mail me and we can work out the particulars...

Also, what are typical conditions up there in early-to-mid December?

Thanks!

-- Ray
From: SCHROEDE@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Skis and Boots
Date: 31 Aug 92 17:33:41 GMT
Organization: Vanderbilt University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.21

In <EebLU_y00Uh7I7vWke@andrew.cmu.edu> "Christian writes:
 
> Rossignol 4G Skis
>   Purple
>   203 cm
>   original owner, bought in June, 1990
>   ski style is 4 years old (replaced by the 7G this past year)
>   GS Racing skis (great for steep, smooth slopes, not so good on the moguls)
>   Great for the advanced skiier who likes speed and smooth, long turns
 
> Prices:               Original:    Asking:
> Rossignol Skis          $425        $300

one more thing the lucky buyer of this attractively priced package can
get p-tex candles from me (call or e-mail will be fine) for the great price
of $29.95.  these were originally bought in 1989 and have been aging under
perfect conditions since.  

> Salomon Bindings        $195        $100
> Salomon Boots           $300        $100
> Entire Set             $1025        $500
>   (inc. bags and poles)
> 
> This is quite a deal on a set-up that can really get you noticed.   
> Christian A. Pegher
> Student of, but in no other way affiliated to:
> Carnegie Mellon, INC.
>   
>
From: akg@fibercom.COM (Keith Glover)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: National Ski Association
Keywords: savings? scam?
Date: 26 Aug 92 17:18:37 GMT
Organization: FiberCom, Inc., Roanoke, Virginia

In article <dogar.714687689@opal4> dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar) writes:
>
>The September issue of *Skiing* magazine has an ad for 
>"The Nation's #1 Skier Card." They claim that with a
>membership in the National Ski Association and a
>National Skier Discount Card,  one can get up to
>$15 off daily lift tickets and up to 50% off lodging
>plus other discounts. Does anyone have one of these?
>Is it of any use? or is it a waste?

I have used one of these cards for the past two seasons.  The biggest
discounts were only good during the early/late seasons.  Deals during
the *real* season were VERY limited.  HOWEVER .. the card only costs
about $7 (actually the card is free, it costs $7 to join the NSA).  It
only takes a single 1/2 price lift ticket to break even and anything
above that is gravey.  You may want to call them and ask about what
discounts are available in the areas where you would be skiing.

I hope you can read this, my NFS server is cutting in & out today.


-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: johnlake@microsoft.com (John Lake)
Subject: Re: SNOWBOARDING: Burton
Date: 04 Sep 92 09:35:08 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <1992Aug28.170601.26733@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> Gen.M.Kanai@dartmouth.edu (Gen M. Kanai) writes:
>interchangeable with my board, which was the atraction of Burton. 
>Nikon's new 92 auto focus lenses fit on their 1967 cameras.  These are
>the ideas that make or break reputations and companies.  I might switch
>to Nitro. What have people ridden and what do they like?
>

I have only one thing to say regarding BURTON SNOWBOARDS:

YOU CAN'T PATENT FUN.........BOYCOTT BURTON!!!!!!


for a real REAL snowboard............ride LIB TECHNOLOGIES or GNU (yes they
are back and better than ever) from Mike Olson the true snowboard guru.

oh yeah Dancin' Dan Donnelly is KOOK, 100% hollywood, 0% hardcore and 
K2 boards are in reality, only half complete.


$0.02 from the Northwest.



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