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From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Hit the road, Jack.
Date: 23 Nov 1992 14:29:55 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: tx
Reply-To: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
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Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <932@rider.UUCP>, joe@rider.cactus.org (Joe Senner) writes:
|> mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons) writes:
|> ]Arggggggggg!!! I need to get out of Houston!  I'd go . . .but a 3-hour
|> ]ride up 290 isn't *that* much fun! :-(
|> 
|> good thing that's not the ONLY way to go, eh? I know you know of a much
|> better way, it was outlined for splatterfest #2 (I think, can't remember
|> now).

No, No, No . . . Splatterfest #2 was the "Steve Bade 'let us wash our
bike in the mud at the races day!!'" . . . you must be talking about
#3, #4, or #5?? ;-)

Yeah, I know of other ways . . . but riding 4+ hours, on still relatively
straight roads . . nah . . .I'll just go play in Houston freeway traffic!!
Lot's of tight, quick turns . . . . lot's of slalom weaving^H^H^H^H^H^Hdriving
. . . . ever notice how those dotted lines look like a solid white line?!
;-)

|> 
|> -- 
|> Joe Senner -- joe@Rider.Cactus.Org           aDoF#?                Austin, TX
					        ^^^^^^

aspiring? assistant? apprentice? adoring? adolescent? 

I was expecting more along the line of 'gDoF#?' . . grouppie!?!?! ;-)

Mark
From: dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: PC800 Mods: Phase 1 Completed
Date: 17 Nov 92 17:33:00 GMT
Reply-To: dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Distribution: tx
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc., ISD

In article <1e8rhqINNub@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@stanley.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:

>(I have a suspicion I built one of the first minitruck flatbeds - back in
>early 1975 as it predated any sightings of anyone I know. Started seeing lots
>of commercial units about 9 months after mine was on the road. I built it for
>GulfCo - a wellhead rebuilding company who used it to haul single wellheads
>and valves all around Ok. and north Texas. Used square tubing for the pullout
>rails - heard the bed outlasted three Ford minitrucks :^)

Sorry, Charlie.  I remember seeing flatbed Datsuns back in the mid '60s.

-- 
Jerry Dunham                   DoF #1.5             dunham_jerry@tandem.com
Tandem Computers, Inc.                                dunham@mpd.tandem.com
Austin, TX                                                    (512)244-8598
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From: kent@stanley.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Hit the road, Jack.
Date: 18 Nov 1992 15:17:25 GMT
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
Distribution: tx
NNTP-Posting-Host: stanley.nde.swri.edu
Keywords: road kill, won moaning,


"I reckon if you say so... I'll have to pack my bike and go!"
Yo!

My wife said it's time for me to take a mini-vacation. I guess these
dumputers are really getting me down lately...

Think I'm going for a looong ride out west Sunday. Looking around for some
new roads to try out. Like maybe 336 north as it looks interesting on the
map.

Anyone want to tag along and maybe scrape up the pieces if I go down trying
to figure out how to ride my suspension changes???

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (will disavow any knowledge of me)
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
(Dof #)  : "Hoe cake, Murder", an stuttered oft.
From: dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: PC800 Mods: Phase 1 Completed
Date: 19 Nov 92 17:35:36 GMT
Reply-To: dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham)
Distribution: tx
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc., ISD

In article <1ee9f7INNd8u@swrinde.nde.swri.edu> kent@stanley.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk) writes:
>In article <2931@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham) writes:
>>In article <2927@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@mpd.tandem.com writes:
>>
>>>]Sorry, Charlie.  I remember seeing flatbed Datsuns back in the mid '60s.
>>>                  ^^^^^^^^^^
>>>now jerry, isn't that an oxymoron for you????
>>>:-)
>
>Jerry, I think they got you pegged... Looks like the only honorable way out
>of this one is to state that very long-term memories are acceptible.

Hey!  Remembering the '50s and the '60s is NO PROBLEM!  It's only yesterday
that's a complete blank!  (You don't suppose it's because yesterday was 
cancelled for lack of interest and I missed it, do you?)

-- 
Jerry Dunham                   DoF #1.5             dunham_jerry@tandem.com
Tandem Computers, Inc.                                dunham@mpd.tandem.com
Austin, TX                                                    (512)244-8598
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From: kent@stanley.nde.swri.edu (Kent D. Polk)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: PC800 Mods: Phase 1 Completed
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:35:51 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Southwest Research Institute, San Antonio, Texas
NNTP-Posting-Host: stanley.nde.swri.edu

In article <2931@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> dunham@mpd.tandem.com (Jerry Dunham) writes:
>In article <2927@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@mpd.tandem.com writes:
>
>>]Sorry, Charlie.  I remember seeing flatbed Datsuns back in the mid '60s.
>>                  ^^^^^^^^^^
>>now jerry, isn't that an oxymoron for you????
>>:-)

Jerry, I think they got you pegged... Looks like the only honorable way out
of this one is to state that very long-term memories are acceptible.

>If you can generate fault-tolerant Unix, ANYTHING is possible.

Not necessarily. Could be that you made it possible to simply forget
faults... Works for me :^)

Kent Polk: Southwest Research Institute (will disavow any knowledge of me)
Internet : kent@swrinde.nde.swri.edu
(DoF #)  : Terrorist against Ignorance (Don't send me on my first mission)
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Newsgroups: tx.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Riding Jacket
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:25:02 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center

In article <BxrszE.Jrp@sdf.lonestar.org> jmjones@sdf.lonestar.org (Jon Mahler) writes:
>I have been looking for a riding jacket for quite sometime but haven't had 
>much luck. I would appreciate any ideas on where I could one.

Depending on the thickness of your wallet:  I just got a Scout by First Gear.
Like it better every day. See it at Dallas Honda, then buy it for a whole lot
less. I got mine at Two Wheel World. They beat the Honda shop price by about
$70. Out the door for $400. Special order took a couple days.

Jeff Achenbach
From: wrr3118@tamsun.tamu.edu (Rick Russell)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: What, Me Vote?
Date: 16 Nov 92 05:18:59 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas A&M University, College Station

In article <1992Nov15.172826.22013@mksol.dseg.ti.com> mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>
>TRUTH in education is probably a better and more effective method.
>

I daresay that truer words were never said!

-- 
#      Rick Russell | TAMU Meteorology | wrr3118@tamsun.tamu.edu       # 
#     "I am Elfy of Atlantis." "I am Jo-Jo of Munchkinland."           #
#     "We are Elfy and Jo-Jo!"                                         #
From: miller@hmsp04.wg3.waii.com (Griff Miller X7114)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Congratulations to JFHII
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:30:26 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Western Geo. - Div of Western Atlas Intn'l Inc., Houston, TX

In article <21916@rpp386.lonestar.org> jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II) writes:

>[ITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOY]

Congratulations, John! Email me a chocolate cigar  :-) .
--
Griff Miller - miller@monarch.wg3.waii.com - use this for email.

          *** My opinions are mine, not Western's. ***

   "The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge, but 
    fools despise wisdom and discipline."   - Proverbs 1:7
From: curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Clinton Cow-towing to the NEA?
Date: 20 Nov 92 21:45:31 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: IBM AWD, Austin

Is Clinton in the pocket of the NEA, (who would block every effort at
real reform including public school choice measures which have worked
so well in Harlem,) or will he push for real reform?  

Time Will Tell 
		-curt



                   =====  EDUCATION '92  =====

*10  CLINTON AND UNIONS:  AFT AND NEA EXPECT TRANSITION ROLE
     President-elect Clinton recently spoke "unity" with the
heads of the National Education Assoc. and the American
Federation of Teachers (W.S. JOURNAL).  Both unions endorsed
Clinton for the presidency.  NEA Pres. Keith Geiger said, "He was
very anxious to talk about what he thought needed to happen."
     The JOURNAL writes:  "The two unions expect to have
representatives on the transition team and input into decisions."
(See DRC 11/6, #99)  But Geiger said he doesn't "expect veto
power" over appointments.
     Gloria Cabe, Clinton's national ed advisor in Ark. said
unions have become more reformist since Clinton fought with them
there.
     "But former GOP education chief William Bennett says if
Clinton 'toes the lines of the unions, we'll see a lot more money
and a whole lot less reform,'" writes the JOURNAL (11/20).



-- 
curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com (Curt L. Finch) | AIX NFS/NIS Field Quality 
My views are unrelated to those of IBM     |        Austin, TX
          - Fire public school administrators.  Hire more teachers. -
From: davidc@montagar.com (David L. Cathey)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Football Failures at Bowie Force end of Season
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:58:20 CDT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Montagar Software Concepts, Plano TX

In article <1992Nov20.001115.37531@watson.ibm.com>, johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti) writes:
> fred j mccall 575-3539 (mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com) wrote:
> : Then they've shown they don't have the discipline necessary to play
> : the game at a professional level -- at which point they're going to
> : need some of those classes that you want them to not have to take.
> 
> Somebody can be very disciplined in football but not in organic chemistry
> for example, and vice versa.  It has to do with how much you value the subject.

	You do realize that you are being very obtuse, since High School does
not require all students to take Organic Chemistry, and few (if any) even
offer the class.  Therefore your response is meaningless (Surprise!).  

> John Iacoletti       IBM AWS Austin       Internet: johniac@austin.ibm.com
>         My opinions do not reflect the views of the IBM Corporation
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P. O. Box 260772, Plano TX  75026-0772  |Fone: (214)-618-2117
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: PRIVATE SCHOOL CHOICE IN INDIANAPOLIS
Date: 16 Nov 92 13:37:04 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1992Nov15.035747.5499@awdprime.austin.ibm.com> curt@ekhadafi.austin.ibm.com (Curt Finch 903 2F021 curt@aixwiz.austin.ibm.com 512-838-2806) writes:

>*10  PRIVATE SCHOOL CHOICE:  INDIANAPOLIS PROGRAM HAS APPEAL

>     Students must qualify for the federally subsidized lunch
>program to be eligible for the voucher program (See DRC 10/21,
>#6).  Those students who qualify can attend any private school in
>the Indianapolis area that participates in the program.  Golden
>Rule covers up to half of $1,600 for tuition.  Parents are
>responsible for the other half, according to Rooney.

In other words, to attend a private school with tuition as low as
$1.6k (how many of those are there that aren't religion affiliated?),
this program will pay $800 -- which means that parents are going to
have to somehow come up with the other $800.  Sure seems to let out
the poor to me.  After all, if they could put together $800 to spend
on school tuition (over and above everything they spend on now), they
probably don't qualify as poor.

>     Rooney said, "It's obvious that the parents are very pleased
>about [the program].  Parents contend their children are safer in
>private schools and are better disciplined."

Can you spell 'Federally subsidized white flight'?  I thought you
could. 


-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: 10 reasons to dump Jake Pickle
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:22:14 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1992Nov12.182846.30286@watson.ibm.com> johniac@austin.ibm.com (John Iacoletti/100000) writes:

>fred j mccall 575-3539 (mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com) wrote:
>:                                               Those are POLICY votes,
>: and indicate that this organization has its own political agenda when
>: it starts counting them as 'waste' votes.

>Agreed.  For example what does CAGW say about the 9 billion dollars (or
>whatever) wasted on the "War" on drugs?

>: race for governor, and I voted in the Democratic primary because I
>: thought one of the candidates sounded enough like a flaming fascist to
>: be actively dangerous.

>Who would that be?

Mattox.  (The spelling is probably wrong, but you get the idea.  Was
an Attorney General or something at one time, and thought the idea of
mandatory random drug testing for EVERYONE was a good idea; also
mandatory AIDS tests, mandatory this and that -- hey, after all,
'honest, God-fearing people' have nothing to hide, right?)

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Clinton has won...watch your pocket!
Date: 20 Nov 92 14:05:37 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1649@airgun.wg.waii.com> reed@rd08.wg2.waii.com (Michael Reed) writes:

>In article <1992Nov15.140420.13884@mksol.dseg.ti.com>, mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539) writes:
>|> 
>|> And let's not mention the jiggery-pokery by which the Republican
>|> Executive has made its own deficits look smaller by folding in the
>|> SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS.  Yes, indeed, it's sure run much better with
>|> Republicans making those decisions.  NOT!
>|> 

>Fred you must subscribe to Joseph Goebell's view that if you tell a big
>enough lie often enough, people will believe.  As I and several others
>have posted previously:

Pity that you didn't learn any manners while you were getting that
'Dr' that you seem so proud of.

>THE SOCIAL SECURITY SURPLUS IS NOT SUBTRACTRED FROM THE BUDGET DEFICIT.

>It is a federal law that it can not be.  If you do not believe me, please
>show me a federal budget where it is "folded in."  My budget in the
>World Almanac, 1991 edition, page 102 shows a revenue entry:

>Undistributed offsetting receipts: -89,155 (millions of dollars)

Yes, but now take a look at the word 'offsetting'.  What do you think
the generally reported deficit is?  We count SS outlays in with the
budgetary outlays these days, and we count the inflow as generally
being part and parcel fo general tax revenues, although it is most
assuredly accounted separately.  

>Being the econ wiz you claim to be, you should be able to figure out
>what that is.

And the SS 'surplus' is largely used to buy T-bills and such -- in
other words, it's used to subsidize the Federal debt and reduce
outside borrowing -- and it is that outside borrowing that is the
generally reported 'deficit' figure, not the one you get when you
extract the Social Security budget from the rest.

One is left wondering just what you are a 'Dr' of -- certainly not
logic OR economics.

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
From: gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: CHOICE: DEBATE BASED ON COMPETING PHILOSOPHIES
Date: 20 Nov 92 00:27:47 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX


  [Fred McCall's counterflame deleted.]

Fred,

Now that we are on a first name basis, Let's call a truce on the flame war.  
I'm guilty too.  We are very far apart in our views, and both of us believe we
have facts and logic and, I daresay, high ideals behind our positions.
When the polarity is as wide as it is here, it is very easy to think
the other guy is a fool and, especially in this medium, give expression
to it.  I really pushed it over the edge by throwing your motto back in
your face (even though I do find it a good one from my own point of view)
I'll try sticking with the issues from now on.  And I will try harder to 
understand your position.

Peace?

Gerry  (73237.2006@compuserve.com)
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: CHOICE: DEBATE BASED ON COMPETING PHILOSOPHIES
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:20:48 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc

In <1992Nov12.223257.11398@digi.lonestar.org> gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo) writes:


>There is no doubt that private school tuition would rise with the 
>availability of voucher money.  But public school cost would decrease 
>as the schools focused less on a top heavy bureacracy and more directly 
>on the parents and local community.  One way to keep things in check 
>would be partial vouchers. Require, say, that the parents pay some 
>percentage of the tuition based on income. This would keep total 
>costs down and allow for choice as well.  I'm a long time advocate 
>of private schools and choice, and I have 3 kids.  But I would find
>this solution acceptable.

This is actually a worse solution than the idea of giving full
vouchers to people to send their kids to religious schools.  What is
someone who can't afford to pay the rest of the tuition to a private
schools supposed to do with a PARTIAL VOUCHER?  Sounds like a great
way to encourage middle-income flight from the public schools.

All the 'good examples' everyone quotes to 'prove' how effective
'choice' would be are examples of PUBLIC SCHOOL choice?  So why don't
people push for that (which they can probably even get) since it seems
to work so well, instead of insisting that they want to send their
kids to Jo Smo's Acadamy of Charismatic Intolerance on tax money?

-- 
"Insisting on perfect safety is for people who don't have the balls to live
 in the real world."   -- Mary Shafer, NASA Ames Dryden
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Fred.McCall@dseg.ti.com - I don't speak for others and they don't speak for me.
From: jfh@rpp386.lonestar.org (John F. Haugh II)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Time out from the flames...
Date: 23 Nov 92 14:06:44 GMT
Reply-To: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh II)
Organization: Los Tejanos SCUBA Club and Beer Joint, Austin, Tejas

In article <84JNuB3w164w@n5abi.hou.tx.us> gak@n5abi.hou.tx.us (Gene A. Kennedy) writes:
>jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
>
>> In article <21911@rpp386.lonestar.org> jfh@rpp386.cactus.org (John F. Haugh I
>> >[ITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSABOYITSAB
>> 
>> Congratulations, John! May he enjoy many long years of happy life.
>
> Same here John, where's our cigars! :-)

Well, you'll have to wait until February when the child =actually= arrives.
But send me your physical mailing address, and I'll add you to the list of
people who get whatever it is I hand out.

It's a shame that our misguided political leaders are still trying to
punish Fidel Castro's regime because Cuban cigars are the best.  Doesn't
it seem a bit strange that the (former) USSR buys wheat, the PRC sells
clothes, but a bunch of Cubans can't sell cigars to expectant fathers?

Would you care to wager that the trade restrictions against Cuba are being
held in place by tobacco and sugar farmers, and not some fear that a
tiny Caribean island in economic decline is going to take over the last
remaining superpower?

[ Sorry, I had to slip some politics in there ;-) ]
-- 
John F. Haugh II                  [  TSAKC  ] !'s: ...!cs.utexas.edu!rpp386!jfh
Ma Bell: (512) 251-2151           [ DoF #17 ]        @'s: jfh@rpp386.cactus.org
From: jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard)
Newsgroups: tx.politics
Subject: Re: Practical Atheism (Re: Bush Vetoes Stupid Education Reform Bill)
Keywords: atheism not god
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:26:24 GMT
Distribution: tx
Organization: UT Health Science Center Houston

In article <1992Nov18.164951.14530@tamsun.tamu.edu> wrr3118@tamsun.tamu.edu (Rick Russell) writes:
>Agnostic: Someone who applies normal evidence-based reasoning to their
>lives, but reserves judgement on religious matters. An agnostic [...]
>usually gives special consideration to religious issues, stating
>instead that we don't know or can't know.

>"Soft" Atheist: The "soft" atheist subjects all things to the same
>evidence-based reasoning, without reserving judgement for anything. [...]

Hmmmmm. To me, the two cases are separated by a very thin line that may not in
fact exist. To me, if there is no evidence, then by definition we cannot know.

Which side of that line does that put me on?
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
           "Cat: Four legs and an attitude." -- Jim Reese