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From: zrfh0396@ruscvx.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Draxler)
Subject: Testing scsi device with sst
Keywords: sst scsi exabyte
Organization: User ruscvx Comp.Center (RUS) University of Stuttgart, Germany
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 07:25:18 GMT

Hello experts,

I am using a DN10000 with OS10.3 and an exabyte to backup our apollo-
net. The other apollos are 3 DN3500 and 1 DN3000.

Now I got error messages like this :

** Tape i/o error
   write, data i/o, block 31, error 1
   mt status 8A48:  op not completed
                    unrecoverable tape read/write error
   --- retrying same block

** Tape i/o error
   write, data i/o, block 31, error 2
   mt status 9648:  op not completed
                    bad parameter in pb (byte count?)
   --- retrying same block

** Tape i/o error
   write, data i/o, block 31, error 3
   mt status 9648:  op not completed
                    bad parameter in pb (byte count?)
   --- retrying same block
?(wbak) (allocate_entry) Media-related error.
 - operation not started due to error in previous block list
    (library/tfp)
?(wbak) (open_output_volume) Unable to open backup file. - an 
    EOF1 (or EOV1) label is missing where one is required (library/tfp)
?(wbak) (open_output_volume) Unable to open backup file. - an
    EOF1 (or EOV1) label is missing where one is required (library/tfp)
?(wbak) (open_output_volume) Unable to open backup file. - an
    EOF1 (or EOV1) label is missing where one is required (library/tfp)
?(wbak) (open_output_volume) Unable to open backup file. - an
    EOF1 (or EOV1) label is missing where one is required (library/tfp)

I want to test the scsi device using sst, but I stuck at setting
the device to be tested. 
What do I have to read ? Is this there a better way to locate the
error ?

Thank you for your help.

Markus Draxler
Computing center univerity of Stuttgart

markus.draxler@rus.uni-stuttgart.de
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: swamp@nrtpa22.bnr.ca (Steve Swamp)
Subject: how do you kill an active prsvr job?
Keywords: prsvr aegis
Reply-To: swamp@bnr.ca
Organization: BNR, Research Triangle Park, NC
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 14:21:14 GMT

Every so often, someone here prints a postscript file without the
-trans option. I have been trying to figure out a way to kill
the job from the shell pad, short of shutting off the printer or
killing the prmgr/prsvr processes. Is there a way to do this?
I've tried using the "prf -sig_pr" command, but I get either
"not supported by this printer" or "unable to communicate/NCS"
errors. Anyone know how to do this? I'm running 10.3.5 on a 425T,
serial 19200 to an Apple Laserwriter. Only using three wires to
the printer (I think).


-- 
steve swamp                       BNR
email: swamp@bnr.ca               Research Triangle Park, NC
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: b_kondalski@trwvssi.vssi.trw.com (Brian J. Kondalski)
Subject: Re: how do you kill an active prsvr job?
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 16:58:09 GMT
Organization: TRW Vehicle Safety Systems, Inc.
Keywords: prsvr aegis

In article <1992Oct13.142114.4991@nrtpa038.bnr.ca> swamp@bnr.ca writes:
>Every so often, someone here prints a postscript file without the
>-trans option. I have been trying to figure out a way to kill
>the job from the shell pad, short of shutting off the printer or
> .......

I've been wondering about this for awhile also.  It's a real pain when a user
sends a postscript file non-transparently.

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.unix.osf.osf1
From: tomg@hpcvusc (Thomas J. Gilg)
Subject: Re: Availability of OSF_MOTIF version 1.1 for the HP/Apollo Domain 5500
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:47:26 GMT

Ashok Gupta (gupta@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk) wrote:
> There's some confusion at HP, here in the UK, about whether this is 
> actually available as a single separate product. Indeed they sent
> me version 1.0 when I ordered 1.1.  :-(

In Domain/OS, the X11R4/Motif1.1  world comes in two pieces.

Runtime - bundled with Domain/OS SR10.3.5 and SR10.4, it includes all the
          runtime libraries (ie, shared X/Motif libraries in /lib), the
          X11R4 Xdomain server, X11R4 clients, the Motif Window Manager,
          HP-VUE 2.01, and all associated man pages.

Development - the User Environment Developers Kit (UEDK) is available as
          a layered product and includes the X/Motif header files and 
          archived X/Motif libraries.   It also includes UIL and all the
          X/Motif development man pages.

> Now I'm told I'll have to buy HP_VUE 2.01, Xlib, XtInstrinsics
> and other GUI stuff too as they're bunded together with OSF_MOTIF v 1.1.

See above.

Prior to SR10.3.5, Apollo shipped only core X11R3 with the OS.   The Motif
layer (libraries and window manager) came from a layered product and
HP-VUE 1.0 from yet another layered product.

> So can any one please tell me whether OSF v1.1 is available as a
> separate product for the Apollo Domain 5500 ?  I'm only interested 
> in binaries and libraries - not source.  And what version of the
> OS I need to run it ?

Get the UEDK for SR10.4

Thomas Gilg
tomg@cv.hp.com

From: dan@hpwin052.uksr.hp.com (Dan Bennett)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 12:39:46 GMT
Subject: Re: What can I do with an Apollo 3000
Organization: HP Response Centre, Berkshire, England.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo

Hi,

Nope, there's definitely no port of HPUX for DN3000's. And as far as
I'm aware, there's no OS other than Domain/OS that'll run on them.
Unless there have been some very BRAVE and CLEVER bods out in the
field.

But what's wrong with Domain/OS anyway?

Regards,
Dan Bennett.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: lampi@halcyon.com (Michael Lampi)
Subject: Re: comp.sys.apollo FAQ [October, Part 1 of 2]
Summary: Update to 3rd Party Vendor List
Keywords: FAQ, october
Organization: MDL Corporation, Redmond, WA (206) 861-6700=
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:47:59 GMT

Well, it had to happen :-)  Now that there is no one at R Squared who
can spell "Apollo", they are finally listed in the 3rd party vendor list.

Please add MDL Corporation (yes - they're baaaack!) to the list of 3rd
party vendors for Apollo and HP/Apollo systems.  Thank you!

(Just a satisfied 3rd party supplier for HP/Apollo customers :-) :-)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: $DISPLAY not getting set
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 20:38:54 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.194457.23109@src.honeywell.com> bergstr@src.honeywell.com (Darryl Bergstrom) writes:
>I wouldn't be so quick to just make it a default, there are applications that
>have ascii and X inplementations (emacs/epoch).  If DISPLAY is set for these
>application, they will try to use X first and if you login from home, they will
>not start properly.

I agree with this, and in addition if the login is from another system,
I set $DISPLAY so it points to the system where the login originated,
so that any X clients will display on that system. My scheme will
get confused if you then rlogin again, but at Interworks, Steve Jumonville
from HP/Mentor demonstrated a nice way to propagate all sorts of environment
variables through a nested mess of rlogin/telnets.
-- 
What are the chances that any HP computer system will ever "work" properly?
... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
From: mik@hpbbi4.BBN.HP.COM (#Michele Isernia)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 13:33:32 GMT
Subject: Re: trouble installing 10.4 on dn4500
Organization: Hewlett-Packard GmbH
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo

I suggest you to restore first the install directory of 10.4
fromthe first file on the tape:

rbak -dev c -f 1 install -as /install -ms -l......

Then try to run minst...

Mik
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Subject: DPCI and Windows 3.1
Reply-To: dahls@fhydra.dnet.unit.no (Joern Yngve Dahl-Stamnes)
Organization: University of Trondheim, NORWAY
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 15:25:11 EDT

Hello.

We are using DPCI 5.1.1 to connect our PC's to our Apollo Domain
machines (running OS 10.3.5.4). The users use it for storing files, to
print files and for mail connection.

Some of the users (who do not now much about UNI*X, mail etc) want to
have an icon to click on to check if there is any unread mails on the
Apollo machine. And if there is any mail, they want to click on a second
icon to read it. A third icon may be used to send mail (not reply). But
to start a DOS box from windows and then start DTERM seems not to work
very well (the user log on the machine BEFORE starting windows). DTERM
will hang after only a few keystrokes. And the release notes say that
DTERM won't work with Windows.

So I wonder if someone out there has managed to get DTERM or rsh to work
with Windows 3.1 so that the user easily check if there is any unread
mail on the Apollo?

Is there any other way to get mail on the PC using DPCI? Or should we
forget about DPCI and get something else?

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,misc.forsale.computers
From: dmm@hal.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Andrew Mathieson Moore)
Subject: Apollo keyboard/mouse $25
Organization: MIT Laboratory for Computer Science
Distribution: us
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 15:39:53 GMT


Apollo DN330 keyboard & mouse
(will work with other Apollo models? not sure..)
$25 shipped

-drew
dmm@silver.lcs.mit.edu
603/669-2707 (NH)



Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: jrhunsbe@eos.ncsu.edu (JONATHAN RO HUNSBERGER)
Subject: Giving X11 applications other icons than the big ugly X.
Originator: jrhunsbe@c00073-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: jrhunsbe@eos.ncsu.edu (JONATHAN RO HUNSBERGER)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 00:50:33 GMT


Has anyone had any luck with giving Xwindows applications
(i.e. xterm, xclock, xload) an icon other than the bix X?

If so, please share your secrets.  I know how to manually give
them a different icon, but would like to know how to make them
come up with a different default icon.

Thanks for your help.

I am running 10.2 but will soon be upgrading to 10.4 so hopefully
any solutions will at least work in 10.4

Jonathan Roy Hunsberger
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From:  <aris@ap1.me.umn.edu>
Subject: Patche Tapes (cont'd)
Organization: none
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 21:36:30 GMT

I tried to call them last week and ask them about the latest available
patches.  Of cource as usual the service was 'unique'...
It seems that they once again merged (or maybe did something else) the
ex-Apollo dbase with the HP-ones.  To make the long story short, they
couldn't find our system-handle/ID and they DID NOT provide us service!!!
And we pay good money for this @!#$^%$#% !!!

--Aris

PS  I wish someone of the HP could prove to me that things are not as bad as
    I think they are.


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From: pp0s+@EDRC.CMU.EDU (Peter Colin Piela)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: trouble finding getarg and iargc
Date: 8 Oct 92 18:50:25 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon University

I am writing a Pascal program which needs command line arguments. Instead of using the Domain pgm calls I am experimenting with the getarg and iargc. When I try to link the program /bin/ld reports getarg and iargc as unresolved symbols. Having used nm to search in the expected libraries (like libU77.a) I too am unable to trace these symbols. Some help would be appreciated. Thanks, Peter
From: thompson@PAN.SSEC.HONEYWELL.COM (jt -- John Thompson)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
Subject: re: Transition to HP-UX
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:08:50 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet



> One of many problems I'm pondering is what to do with all my archived
> tapes (8mm [omniback], 9-trk [wbak], cartridge [wbak]).  What I think
> I know so far;
>   a) Can read 8mm[omniback] in my new HP9000/7xx[HP-UX] environment as
> long as I keep an HP/Apollo system in reserve.
If you get the omniback executables for HP-UX, you should be able to read things
without a Domain/OS system.  However, the 8mm format is not officially supported
(although I believe it works fine on HP-UX).

>   b) Can read 9-trk tapes in other formats. BUT is there a HP-UX utility
> to read wbak tapes?????
There will be an rbak capability added to HP-UX.  It is supposed to handle the
issues of restoring typed files cleanly, but (for instance) you wouldn't get
back the entire history of a DSEE "casehm" file.  Presumably you'd get the latest
version only, though maybe you'll end up with the cruddy byte-stream with all
the changes interleaved.  (This may be an Omniback issue too -- I haven't tried
restoring a typed file to a Un*x system yet.)

>   c) Transfer or bury the cartridges.
Hmmmm.  You could try winding them all to the end, and then turning the node
upside down while you typed in "m1/tmr/ved/ fvx- rat" I suppose.....   :-(
Seriously, I don't know a solution to this issue (besides keeping a Domain/OS
system around for wbak cartridges, and a Domain or Sun around for tar cartridges).
  
-- jt --
John Thompson
Design Services Engineer / Sys-Admin
Honeywell, SSEC
Plymouth, MN  55441
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo
From: system@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (System Admin (Mike Peterson))
Subject: Re: Testing scsi device with sst (sort of)
Keywords: sst scsi exabyte
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 14:47:59 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.072518.6924@news.uni-stuttgart.de> zrfh0396@ruscvx.rus.uni-stuttgart.de (Markus Draxler) writes:
>I am using a DN10000 with OS10.3 and an exabyte to backup our apollo-
>net. The other apollos are 3 DN3500 and 1 DN3000.
>
>Now I got error messages like this :
>
>** Tape i/o error
>   write, data i/o, block 31, error 1
>   mt status 8A48:  op not completed
>                    unrecoverable tape read/write error
>   --- retrying same block

When I get these messages, it usually means the tape drive is dirty;
using the cleaning tape almost always "fixes" the problem.
I find I need to clean the drive every 2 weeks, which is probably in
line with Exabyte's (and others) recommendations of every 5GB of data,
every 30 hours of use, or every 30 days, which ever comes first (this
is for a 8200 drive, no compression). Since I started this scheme, I
have had very few tape I/O errors.

Also, I rebuild the 'rmts?' devices before and after each backup
(which is NOT safe if you have multiple drives on your system which
could be in simultaneous use), since these devices seem to get corrupted
more often than the pty's :-( (my drive is on a DN2500).

I have never tried sst, but I didn't get my Exabyte from Apollo; it
fails DEX diagnostics too, but works fine once Domain/OS is booted.
-- 
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... and Slim just left town. -*- Mike Peterson, SysAdmin, U/Toronto Chemistry
Xref: sparky comp.sys.apollo:3725 comp.unix.osf.osf1:11
From: gupta@prlhp1.prl.philips.co.uk (Ashok Gupta)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apollo,comp.unix.osf.osf1
Subject: Availability of OSF_MOTIF version 1.1 for the HP/Apollo Domain 5500
Date: 5 Oct 92 15:01:56 GMT
Reply-To: gupta@prl.philips.co.uk
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Redhill, UK

There's some confusion at HP, here in the UK, about whether this is 
actually available as a single separate product. Indeed they sent
me version 1.0 when I ordered 1.1.  :-(

Now I'm told I'll have to buy HP_VUE 2.01, Xlib, XtInstrinsics
and other GUI stuff too as they're bunded together with OSF_MOTIF v 1.1.
And these are priced together at twice what I paid for OSF v1.0 last year.
Price alone isn't the problem - I don't want to have to buy stuff I
know I will not ever need.

So can any one please tell me whether OSF v1.1 is available as a
separate product for the Apollo Domain 5500 ?  I'm only interested 
in binaries and libraries - not source.  And what version of the
OS I need to run it ?  And its cost and lastly where I can get it
from ?

Please email.

Thanks

Ashok
From: e4004005@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: TEST
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:17:26 GMT
Organization: Memphis State University

TEST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Using BSET & BCLR on write only registers ?
From: 8918927y@levels.unisa.edu.au
Date: 15 Oct 92 09:48:17 +0930
Organization: University of South Australia

Hello,

	Is it possible to use the 680x0 instructions BSET and BCLR on
write only registers ? .. my problem may be that I'm trying to program a
Signetics QUART that has an interrupt mask register and an Interrupt
status register in the same register location, but the ISR is readonly
and the IMR is writeonly (ie depends on wether you read or write to that
location as to what happens.)  .. and I'm using 

		BSET.B #3,IMR(a3) 
	
	to set the bit (where IMR(a3) points to the correct
register)..but not to test it. In the process of reading executing the
instruction I assume the 680x0 reads the location then masks the byte
and then writes it back  . is this correct ? and if other bits are set
will they be reset by the instruction _IF_ the write & read values are
different (ie on write only registers)

Thanks for any clues and hints..
Kym
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From: dcs01@bnr.ca (Don Selchow)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: C++ 3.0 for Delta 4000 VME
Keywords: C++, cfront, VME
Date: 15 Oct 92 19:08:12 GMT
Organization: Bell-Northern Research, Richardson, Tx.


Hello all,

  I am looking for a 3.0 version of C++ for the Motorola Delta 4000
series VME.  This consits of a 68040 running V.3.  I would like a list of
vendors that would supply such a thing.  I would perfer a cfront based
complier.

Thanks for you time,
  Don Selchow
From: ssrhines@susssys1.reading.ac.uk (Chris Hines)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: cache help required
Summary: how to use the cache and memory management
Keywords: 68030 memory management
Date: 12 Oct 92 06:15:07 GMT
Organization: University of Reading


I'm writing a simple multi-processor microkernel which will use the memory
management features of the 68030. Assuming that I enable the caches what do
I do with them at a context switch? When I change the address space do I
mark the caches invalid, or does the processor sort this out for itself.

Should the cache address registers become part of the context? Saved and
restored during each context switch. 

Where can I  by 68000 parts at a reasonable prices? Particularly the 68881
and the 68882.


Many thanks.


Chris.



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From: kintel@solan.unit.no (Marius Kintel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: Re: 68000, Fast 14 Bit Shift?
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:13:43 GMT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Norwegian Institue of Technology

In article <tiemann.719192543@tardis61>, tiemann@iis.ethz.ch (Bjoern Tiemann) writes:
 > Hi there....
 > 
 > I wonder which is the fastes way to Arithmetically Shift Right a
 > Data Register 14 bits to the right on a MC68000?
 > 
 > It's definitely not
 >    asr.l #8,d0
 >    asr.l #6,d0
 > 
 > 
 > The best idea I had so far is
 >    lsl.l #2,d0
 >    swap  d0
 >    ext.l d0
 > 
 > which needs 20 clock cycles (44 the other version!).
 > 
 > Any suggestions to my email adress please.
 > 
 > Bjoern Tiemann
 > email: tiemann@iis.ethz.ch
 > 
 > 
 > P.S.: I'm waiting eagerly to hear news about the 68060 presentation.
 > 

Are you sure that your routine will work ?

say.. You've got the number $80000000
aritmetically shifting will result in this: $fffe0000 (I think..
head-calculations)
Your routine will do this: $00000000

I may be wrong, but I think it's like this..
(I have no idea of how to solve your problem, but I can check it out)


Marius Kintel
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
From: tim@boxhill.com (Timothy Jones)
Subject: Re: 683xx data books...
Organization: Box Hill Systems Corporation, New York, NY
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 16:42:21 GMT

On 13 Oct 92 05:27:37 GMT, rh2y+@andrew.cmu.edu (Russell E. Hoffman, II) said:

rh2y> Hi..
rh2y>    Does anyone know if Motorola charges for the user's manuals for the 683xx
rh2y> family? Also, is there a number to call or an address for getting said
rh2y> manuals? I'd like to get the hardware/software manuals for the 683xx
rh2y> family to  look at to see whether or not one of the 683xx family members
rh2y> would be suited to a particular project of mine.

I've always gotten manuals free of charge.  Call Motorola's literature center
at 602-994-6561.  They'll probably refer you to a sales office in your area
which will mail them to you.

Tim
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From: archamba@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Archambault Benoit)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.m68k
Subject: 68302 cost
Date: 6 Oct 92 16:54:06 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

How expensive the 68302 is ?

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