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From: Tim.ONeill@english.utas.edu.au (Tim O'Neill)
Subject: Re: 'So What' and 'Thieves'
Organization: University of Tasmania (Australia)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:10:19 GMT

In article <9211092147@ltrnativ.UUCP>, adammot@ltrnativ.UUCP (Adam Mottershead) writes:
> 
> This is probably one of the common requests, but I will ask it anyway.
> 
> I am looking for the lyrics to Ministry's "So What" and "Thieves".  Now I
> am sure they are available via FTP, but unfortunately I don't have access
> to such a powerful tool.
> 
> If someone could mail them to me, I would be very appreciative.

Ditto for me.

Tim O'Neill
Tasmanian Devil

Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial,alt.music.hardcore
From: gferg@hoop.csd.sgi.com (Greg Ferguson)
Subject: Re: Ministry/Godflesh tour
Reply-To: gferg@sgi.com
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 1992 01:08:26 GMT

In article <By6uFB.96s@irvine.com>, dany@irvine.com (rorschach) writes:
|> >   Isn't there supposed to be a tour with Ministry, Godflesh and Helmet
|> > or Sepultura?  Does anyone know the details and if it will be coming to
|> > the Cleveland/Pittsburgh area and when?     thanks   Meghan 
|> 
|> Me too... will this lineup be coming to Los Angeles?
|> 
|> desperately need to know.
|> 
|> dany@irvine.com

Take out Godflesh. It hits San Francisco Dec 23rd. Gonna be a killer.
Potentially one of the best shows *ever*.... :-)

-- 
MOSH!
Ferg      "Don't hold me back...this is my own hell..."
                                                - Godflesh
Greg Ferguson - SGI CSD R&D - gferg@csd.sgi.com
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: Nurse With Wound, "Thunder Perfect Mind"
Originator: btc30679@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
Reply-To: thoth@uiuc.edu (Ben Cox)
Organization: Ancient Illuminated Sears of Bavaria
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:35:00 GMT

ramsey@spot.Colorado.EDU (Mad Poo Bandit) writes:

>I feel however that considering it may only be available as an import (which
>is how *I* purchased it), it cost 30 dollars.  Hardly worth THAT much.

Your record store gouged you.  I paid $18.99, and they ordered it for me.

>Nevertheless, it was my first NWW purchase (and only to date), and it did
>picque my curiousity.  Perhaps, judging from some other posts, I ought to
>get some Current 93...if indeed the "Colder Still" was more reminiscent of
>them.

"Colder Still" is NOT reminiscent of Current 93's "Thunder Perfect
Mind"... it REFERS to Current 93's TPM, but it is very dissimilar.

--
Ben Cox
thoth@uiuc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: aankrom@nyx.cs.du.edu (Anthony Ankrom)
Subject: Re: Crumb's 4'33"
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Keywords: Crumb's 4'33"
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Tue, 24 Nov 92 02:53:33 GMT

In article <malcolm.722281007@wrs.com> malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes) wr
tes:
>sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp) writes:
>>> I propose rec.music.silence. Either we can post endlessly about Crumb
s
>>>4'33" or just not post there at all. 
>
>>Crumb's 4'33" ?
>
>>Is this some sort of variant on Cage's piece by the same title,
>>or just an error?
>
>Actually, it's a little known fact that R.Crumb, the famous underground
>comix artist of the 60's, had a brilliant career as a young composer. It
>was really Crumb who came up with the idea of 4'33" shortly after his 
>Zen" comic book that contained only blank pages. Crumb never recorded
>or performed his version, and he claims that Cage ripped off the idea. 
>Legend has it that Cage and Crumb used to hang out together eating 
>mushrooms and drinking. Supposedly one night Crumb got shitfaced and 
>showed Cage his score for 4'33", and a week later Cage presented it as 
>his own piece. Crumb was crushed, and he quit composing music and focuse
 
>entirely on his art, except for occasional weekend jams with friends and

>a one-shot lp he recorded years later.  
>
>  - malcolm@wrs.com 
> 



I'm sorry, my mistake. How could I confuse George Crumb with John Cage?
Anyway, you should check out Crumb's Makrokosmos (title inspired by
Bartok...) But yes, I meant Cage, not Crumb... Sorry...

St. Anthony

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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: asgad@acad2.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: warm leatherette recent version?
Organization: University of Alaska
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 21:08:59 GMT

In aINNrhm@life.ai.mit.edu>, gts@gnu.ai.mit.edu (The Evil Microwizard) writes:
> 
> i just happened to catch this song. . .  and i only heard bits of it.  but i
> was quite sure that it was a cover of 'warm leatherette,' which i know
> grace jones has done.
> 
> does anyone know who did a cover of that song that would fit well into
> this newsgroup's parlance?
> 
> please reply by email.  and thanks!
> 
> --
> 
> Greg Samson / Dr. Evil Microwizard (gts@gnu.ai.mit.edu)
I know that Pankow has done a cover.  You can find it on the "Freedom for the
Slaves" ep and the Geislia [and I'm sure I butchered that spelling"  The
original was done by Controlled Bleeding, but I don't know which or where (If
you already knew that I'm not trying to show off, but I didn't know if you knew
its source.)
From: meep@yaya.WPI.EDU (A Son of the Silent Age)
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Big Catholic Guilt Concert
Date: 17 Nov 1992 14:46:01 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: yaya.wpi.edu

In article <1e959uINNhen@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mute@penny.WPI.EDU (The Amazing Immolating Man) writes:
>In article <1e796iINNar2@bigboote.WPI.EDU> ryant@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (Ryan C Tomasetti) writes:
>>It was some concert.  But, for those of you who did not get to see it and will 
>>be in the Providence area, they will be playing Thursday at the Red Brick
>>Tavern.  Don't miss it twice!
>
>I liked it... 
>
>And the opening band, Canister, was pretty cool too...

Really? I thought they sucked pretty badly...but then I'm the bass player.

Doug
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Xref: sparky rec.music.industrial:13678 alt.music.alternative:16037
From: blosser_cy@lrc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: STOP THE THREAD!!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 21:26:37 EST
Organization: Lenoir-Rhyne College, Hickory, NC


What the f*ck is this 'ROBO-COPULATION' thread doing in THIS newsgroup????

Could we PLEASE put a stop to the ranting and raving (no pun intended) and
re-direct our energy to discussing *RELEVANT* topics...as in pertaining to 
INDUSTRIAL music????

Sorry to bother you, 

christopher
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: berntr@ifi.uio.no (Bernt Olav Rostad)
Subject:  Ministry gig - review
Keywords: Ministry, Helmet
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:15:02 GMT
Originator: berntr@kolsaas.ifi.uio.no



This was my first time at the Brixton Academy, and
did I get impressed. BA is a great place to have concerts,
and it takes 3000 people without any problems. The whole
place has it's own great atmosphere.

It's November 14.th.
First of tonight is Helmet. They enter the stage at 7:50 PM.
I'm not much into Helmet, but they certainly rocked.
They played a short but very intensive set. Almost no space
between the songs. Less than 50 minutes later they left the stage.

A few minutes past 9 PM Ministry enters the stage, and
with "I guess you've waited long enough" Al kicked off
the set:

"NWO"  6.48  
     ** A good start that heated up the audience **

"THE MISSING"  3.00  
     
"DEITY"  2.42

"HERO"  3.13

"PSALM 69"  4.39  
     ** This song gave the audience a chance to
        get their breath back after the great opening **

"JUST ONE FIX"  4.54  
     ** Harder and faster than on the album **

"SUPERNAUT"  6.04
     ** The old Black Sabbath-tune. The audience calmed
        down a bit, I guess many hadn't heard the song before **

"TV SONG"  2.09
     ** Fast, almost 'trashy' version. Too fast for the
        audience to move to, so most people stood still.
        Chris Connelly did the vocals, he was introduced by
        Al as 'our friend from Edinburgh' **

"SO WHAT"  10.36  
     ** Chris did the vocals on this one as well **

"THIEVES"  5.04
     ** The most popular song of the evening, most of the 
        3000 people audience jumped around. 
        Al is back on vocals **

"STIGMATA"  9.15
     ** Gave the same reactions on the audience as "Thieves"
        it was simply great **


Now Ministry left the stage. But after a few minutes they returned
with two more songs:

"BURNING INSIDE"  5.10

"SCARECROW"  5.56
     ** Slow and heavy. Al play harmonica!! And it works !!!
        This version was even better than on the album **

Again Ministry leave the stage, but the audience won't let
them go. So Ministry comes back and play one final song:

"BREATHE"  more than 6 minutes (My bootleg-tape stops too early)
     ** A good song to end the gig with **


The concert lasted about 1h and 40 min. If you listen to
_In Case You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up_ you'll get a good
idea of how they sounded tonight. 

Before leaving Al gave a bottle (I think it was Jack Daniels) 
away to a person infront of the stage, 
he'd almost emptied the bottle during the gig!
Al may be an alcoholic and other things too, but he certainly
know how to make a good show.


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From: rquazi@csws20.ic.sunysb.edu (Rishad Quazi)
Subject: Re: Where is My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 07:27:23 GMT

In article <529@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca> idbremne@thunder.LakeheadU.Ca (idbremne) writes:
>I have not seen Hide Nor Hair Of tkk on this net.
>
>All that i have seen is way too much of...
>
>	"You like _____?  How can you call yourself a real person."
>
>I would like to see more off "Hey check out some of this..."


Well, I'll bite. I hadn't really heard a whole lot about this band (I'm a
newbie to the industrial scene) before I heard two cuts from the 'Cool World'
soundtrack: 'Sex on Wheelz' and 'Her Sassy Kiss'. Both are great I think,
and I'd love to hear more of and about this band.

Farewell,

		- Rishad.

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From: skuff@vax1.mankato.msus.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: nin hidden tracks
Date: 15 Nov 92 13:51:17 GMT
Article-I.D.: vax1.1992Nov15.195117.2457
Organization: Mankato State University

program tracks numbered 98 and 99 on your cd player while listening to the nine
inch nails release broken two hidden songs lie within
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: sharpmn@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Matthew N. Sharp)
Subject: NET LOVE STORY (WAS:Re: Ministry gig - review)
Followup-To: misc.misc,misc.test,alt.newbie,alt.geek,alt.gotcha.sucka
Keywords: Ministry, Helmet, Love, Love, Love
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:58:54 GMT

In article <u9236635.722184381@oxygen.sys.uea.ac.uk> u9236635@sys.uea.ac.uk (R. Szczesniak) writes:
>berntr@ifi.uio.no (Bernt Olav Rostad) writes:
>
>>Before leaving Al gave a bottle (I think it was Jack Daniels) 
>>away to a person infront of the stage, 
>>he'd almost emptied the bottle during the gig!
>>Al may be an alcoholic and other things too, but he certainly
>>know how to make a good show.
>
>By the way the bottle of whisky was Bushmills Irish whisky. I should know - I
>picked up the bottle at the gig. Someone offered me a naff shirt & t-shirt for
>it but I decided to keep it as a souvenir. He'd drunk about half during the gig.

You share a mutual interest, a mutual experience, and a mutual respect.
I see the makings of something really nice... special... permanant here.



R. Szczesniak, meet Bernt Olav Rostad.
Bernt, meet R. Szczesniak.





Enjoy.








M a t t h e w N. S h a r p
matthew@symphony.cc.purdue.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: rmartin@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Richard Martin)
Subject: Al, Commercial manipulation, and attitude
Summary: Al, commercial manipulation, and attitude
Keywords: Al manipulation indutrial music pighead
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 23:34:43 GMT


Is it such a shock that Al did 'With Sympathy'  He even toured with
Culture Club to promote it. Ever since the beginning he has admitted to
trying to manipulate the record industry and the general public for money
to do 'his own thang'.  
When techno was in vogue, he was techno.  Make some cash off the masses
that would follow him.  You see metallica get some hits and you can expect
Al to get a little more harsh so he can keep his friends dishin' out dough
for his albums.  He no different than, say, Madonna (boy, will I get
flamed for that one). 
I know I will regret saying it, but he has the same attitude Ross Perot
does. He just wants people to love him.  Actually quite funny to see the
number of people atthe highly commercial LollapaLOSER with their highly
commercial T-shirts (how much did some people pay?!?!). I listen to AL as
much as the next guy (beginning with 'With Sympathy' but I think people
got to realize he's just out to make a buck like 99.99999% (I just made up
that number) of the rest of the world. Just because a guy has an attitude
doesn't mean you can't like the music, any music.

I think it is time for some of us to get off our high horse. 


Just a thought......

R. Martin
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Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
From: coan@griffin (Brian M Coan)
Subject: wanted: "So Bright So Strong" CD
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: net
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:44:25 GMT

Hey, does anyone have a copy of Nitzer Ebb's "So Bright So Strong"
CD for sale?

	coan@emba.uvm.edu
From: x88phipps2@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.industrial
Subject: NIN--FIXED
Date: 21 Nov 92 16:31:56 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

                              
Hey first the disclaimer: I don't listen to NIN, I don't like NIN, and
I didn't kill trent.   

But I thought some of you might be interested in this:

Nine Inch Nails :  "Fixed"
release date:  Dec. 4, 92

no track listing, but will contain mixes by Butch Vig, Jim-bob Thurwell
(Foetus, C. Ruin, blah blah blah) and   COIL(damn! does this mean I'll
have to get it??)









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From: scupin@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (SCUPIN  JONATHAN RAYMOND)
Subject: Re: pigface??????
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 05:05:23 GMT

The only date I know of for (almost) certain is Dec 1 here, in Boulder,CO.
Methinks someone mentioned a dec 7 date in LA.....
coprophiliac
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Sinead Recommendations Wanted
From: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA (Bob Erkamp)
Date: 18 Nov 92 15:32:03 MDT
Reply-To: erkamp@JANUS.ARC.AB.CA
Organization: Alberta Research Council

In article <1992Nov16.140319.7108@nlm.nih.gov>, neve@nlm.nih.gov (Leif Neve) writes:
>I have always been intrigued by many of the songs on "I Do Not Have What
>I Have Not Got" but wasn't quite ready to fork out the bucks for the thing.
>Now (for lots of reasons) it's appearing in the used CD bins and I snapped it up.
>
>Has Sinead done any CD's since that you folks would rate as being  of
>comparable worth?
>

I noticed she has a brand new CD out but I haven't heard a thing about it? 
Anyone care to do a review?

Bob
From: jhf@d0xs1.fnal.gov (John Featherly)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Name this tune?
Date: 19 Nov 92 15:53:36 GMT
Reply-To: jhf@d0xs1.fnal.gov (John Featherly)
Organization: D0 Experiment
NNTP-Posting-Host: d0xs1.fnal.gov


Okay, how good is this group for content addressable memory?

Anyone know the song, performer for the lyric below from a folk-rock song
from the mid to late sixties?  The performer is female.

	Lay down, lay down
	Lay it all down
	Let the white bird smile up
	At the ones that stand and frown

	  .
	  .
	  .

	It was so cold there was no room
	We bled inside each others wounds       (not sure about this phrase)

	  .
	  .

Anyone remember this song?  My memory isn't what it used to be.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: ghblee@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (H B Lee)
Subject: Re: Need Songs About Sailing/Boats
Organization: GINTIC Institute of CIM, NTU
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 04:12:56 GMT

Barbara Petersen (petersen@netcom.com) wrote:
 
> Hiya....  I'm making a tape for a friend of mine who's a (recreational)
> sailor, and thought it would be amusing to include some songs about
> sailing and boats.... things like "Come Sail Away" by Styx or "Sail On"
> by The Commodores, for example.  Unfortunately, I'm not good at coming
> up with long lists of "theme" songs like that, so I thought I'd turn to
> the net.... if you can help with the titles of appropriate songs, I'd
> appreciate it.... mail or post, and I'll post a summary once responses
> stop trickling in.

"Cool Change" - Little River Band
"Sailing" - Rod Stewart
"Orinoco Flow (Sail Away)" - Enya
"Dreamboat Annie" - Heart
"Banana Boat Song" - Harry Belafonte (!?)

Sorry, that's all I have at the top of my head.

> Thanks lots....

Most welcome. :)

- h.b.-
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From: blanchar@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Dan Blanchard)
Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: Samantha Fox' greatest hits?
Date: 23 Nov 92 19:57:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.By6q4I.12D
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

>>This was supposed to be released in February.

>>I never saw it released.  However, I saw it in a used store last week.

  Yes it was released here, but how can they make a Greatest Hits when
  she never had any hits, let alone any "greatest" hits.  :)

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Newsgroups: rec.music.misc
From: neve@nlm.nih.gov (Leif Neve)
Subject: SUMMARY: Junior Birdman Lyrics
Reply-To: neve@nlm.nih.gov
Organization: National Library of Medicine
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 15:23:16 GMT

I received a lot of different renditions of "Junior Birdman,"
probably reflecting regional offshoots from the original. 

People were pretty closely in agreement on the first stanza except for its last line:
  
  Up in the air junior birdman
  Up in the air upside down
  Up in the air junior birdman
  Keep your eyes upon the ground    or [Don't let your noses touch the ground]
		        or [Keep your noses to the ground]

The second stanza had lots of renditions, however.

  When you hear the engines roaring
  And you see the wings of tin
  Then you'll know that junior birdman
  has sent his boxtops in

  or [If you see a junior birdman
       with his airplane made of tin
       you will know the junior birdman
       has sent his boxtops in]

  or [And when you hear the grand announcement
       That your wings are growing thin
       Up in the air junior birdmen
       It's time to send those boxtops in]

  or [others...]

People did different things at this point, some just did a R-o-a-r,
while others chanted:

     You need: five boxtops, four bottle bottoms, three labels,
             two wrappers and one thin di-i-i-me!

Several folks agreed on what you have to do with your hands
while you sing this. ONLY DO THIS AT HOME: Take both 
your hands and turn them upside down and inside out and form
a set of goggle-like things around your eyes using your thumbs
and forefingers. There, now you're a junior birdman!

Every worthwhile intellectual odyssey ends up leaving one with
more questions than when one began. This one is no different.
Anyone know:

    Where does this song come from?
    What does it mean?
    Is everyone singing the same tune?

Leif Neve