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Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #245
Date: 12 Oct 92 23:45:04 GMT
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Info-Mac Digest             Mon, 12 Oct 92       Volume 10 : Issue 245

Today's Topics:

      [*] boomerang-soundtrack.hqx
      [*] CommentWdw_v1.sit.hqx
      [*] Comp.Sys.Mac.Programmer Digest Volume 1 #170-179
      [*] DeSEA 1.4
      [*] Edit II 2.1
      [*] info-mac/report/comp-sys-mac-comm-faq.txt
      [*] MidiScope 1.5
      [*] New version of Colorizing HC XCMD (v1.1.2)
      [*] PowerPeriod Startup Screen
      [*] ProgressWdw_v1.sit.hqx
      [*] Resolve Text Parser
      [*] SearchPlus_v1.sit.hqx
      [*] space-invader-101.hqx
      [*] SpeedyFinder7 1.5.4 (control panel)
      [*] StatusWdw_v1.sit.hqx
      [*] Submission of PowerAlias 1.0
      [*] ToggleAT v2
      [*] upload
      [*] Xochi stack
      [*] Zipple 1.3.1
      (Q) Faulty SCSI Controller? HELP!
      (Q) Stylewriter ink cartridge refills
      24-bit addressing and virtual memory.
      [ANS] Macs and PC's (F)
      Ada compiler (A)
      ADA compiler for mac?
      Amazing expanding clipboard
      Another joke on a light bulb
      Apple Charging for System 7.1 (C)
      Apple ISDN NuBus Card - Where hast thou gone?
      Asante Ethernet-SCSI adaptor - problem
      A Small Problem with PICTs
      Audio-digitizing with Mac
      AutoDoubler 2.0
      AutoDoubler Int. Comp. Bug?
      Buying A Home Comuter (Many Questions)
      C Lister / PrettyC revisite
      CTB modem tools?
      Database "Engine" (c)
      Dawn 2.01
      DOS-INIT possible Trojan??
      DoveFax, PowerBook 140 update (Q)
      Epson Printer (!?!?)
      Epson printer compatibility
      Expert System Shells (reply)
      Expert System Shells for the Mac (C)
      Finder Snap-To-Grid changes fixed!
      Formatting 178MB Hard Drive
      GIFConverter question (Q)
      Greek Keyboard
      Help! Ofoto crash on a Sys 6 IIci
      Hewlett Packard network gate?
      HyperCard Loops and lots of cards (Q)
      IBM keyboard--Mac adaptors?
      Info-Mac Digest V10 #244
      Internet mail to/from GEnie
      Laserwriter IIg versus NTX
      Laserwriter II Repair Cost
      Little Black Book - Where?
      Logo for Mac & Drag/Drop Pallette
      Mac II memory limits
      Mac LC Problem (A)
      MacNosy?
      MacProducts Visit
      MacScheme Support (A)
      MacWord -> WinWord ? (A)
      Max memory with VM/24 bit
      MicroPhone & Baud rates.  What can the IIsi do?
      Modula-2 compiler for the Mac?
      moniterm viking monitor support on mac?
      New Apple Printer? (Q)
      NeXT-like browser for the Mac (7.x)
      Noisy Hard Drives International Fan Problem Solved
      NOT A VIRUS: WORD 4.0/SYSTEM 7/MACIISI PROBLEM
      Numeric keypad using PB's Keyboard inquiry...
      PianoSim 1.0 follow up
      Piracy (C)
      PLW LS 7.2 (C)
      Printing From TN3270
      RPI Program
      Should I upgrade Excel or go to some other spreadsheet?
      StuffIt Lite 3.0.2 (C)
      Subject: group scheduling (A)
      Supra v.32 and v.32bis (c)
      Sys7/Constantly reinitializing LaserWriter
      TrueType Fonts... how to use?
      tt-converter-13.sit and Stuffit
      Using QTime in Hypercard - comp.sys.mac.hypercard #11568
      Which Works Weelie Works (?)
      win 3.1 v. System 7
      Word 5.1/Word 6.0
      word finder and Word 5 (Q)
      Zterm question

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 10:24:19 EDT
From: udbrooks@mcs.drexel.edu (Dave Brooks)
Subject: [*] boomerang-soundtrack.hqx

Boomerang SoundTrack:
by David Brooks
(udbrooks@queen.mcs.drexel.edu)


	This is a collection of 5-second samples of songs from the
Boomerang soundtrack.  I hope that you enjoy them.

	This will be on the SUMEX machine for about 1 month.

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/boomerang-soundtrack.hqx; 361K]

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:14:41 -0500
From: parshall@ecn.purdue.edu (Jim Parshall)
Subject: [*] CommentWdw_v1.sit.hqx

The Floating Comment XCMD is used for providing an interactive edit
window to the user.  It appears as a windoid and has an optional
instruction string and optional scrolling edit field.  It can be sized,
moved, opened and closed under script control, and has both an OK and
a Cancel button.

[Archived as /info-mac/card/x/floating-comment.hqx; 28K]

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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 09:42:02 -0700
From: "(Michael A. Kelly)" <mkelly@sisters.cs.uoregon.edu>
Subject: [*] Comp.Sys.Mac.Programmer Digest Volume 1 #170-179

Issues #170 through #179 of Volume 1 of the Comp.Sys.Mac.Programmer Digest are
now available.

[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-index.txt; 53K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-170.txt; 40K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-171.txt; 46K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-172.txt; 33K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-173.txt; 49K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-174.txt; 49K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-175.txt; 46K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-176.txt; 52K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-177.txt; 48K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-178.txt; 44K]
[Archived as /info-mac/digest/csmp/csmp-v1-179.txt; 43K]

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 19:55:22 EDT
From: kenh@world.std.com (Ken Hancock)
Subject: [*] DeSEA 1.4

Enclosed is a StuffIt 3.0 archive containing DeSEA 1.4. DeSEA is a System 7
savvy application which turns self-extracting archives (SEA's) into their
non-self-extracting counterparts.  DeSEA is currently configured for
StuffIt 1.5.1/Classic/Deluxe, Compact Pro, and Disk Doubler and may be
extended for other archive formats.  DeSEA supports AppleEvents and
System 7's drag 'n' drop from the Finder.  Freeware.

DeSEA 1.4 fixes AppleEvent handling, adds support for saving resources
when DeSEA'ing archives, adds support for recursively DeSEA'ing
sub-folders, and adds support for drag 'n' dropping folders.

Ken Hancock             | INTERNET: kenh@world.std.com

[Archived as /info-mac/util/desea-14.hqx; 31K]

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 11:39:08 -0600
From: kseah@procyon.austin.tx.us
Subject: [*] Edit II 2.1

Edit II is intended as a replacement for the Consulair Edit text editor but
which alllows the use of the cursor keys on the Mac keyboard for
navigation. If the extended keyboard is used, then the num lock LED will
indicate whether the cursor pad or the numeric pad mode is on.  The home,
end, page up, page down keys will also work, as will the delete right key.
One level of undo is supported.  You can launch Edit II by double clicking
old Edit files (since Edit II uses the same creator signature as Edit, that
is, EDIT). Stationery documents are supported under System 7.

Thanks for all the support from registered users.  Your feedback has been
incorporated into this version.

2.1 (09/24/92)
~~~
** New Features **
* Reverse printing is now optional (accessible from the Print dialog box).
* Autowrap now implemented (thanks to all who requested it).  What happens is
that the first space after the wrap column is automagically converted into a
space.  If the cursor happens to be clicked in the middle of a line and typing
starts, then the rest of the line is not pushed over the wrap margin until
the space is typed.
* Wrap on open implemented (useful for opening TeachText files).
* Respects file access rights (should be great for all you who wanted to use
Edit II on networked files).
* Can set default size for new window (great for those with HUGE screens).
* command-up arrow does a page up while command-down arrow does a page down
(this was devised for PowerBook users - like me).
* A bullet appears in front of the names of the unsaved files in the Windows
menu.
** Bugs fixed **
* Transfer now doesn't reopen files.
* Additional menus (such as fax modem menus) don't corrupt the menu bar.
* Double-clicking on an Edit II alias doesn't keep the cursor to the watch.
* Clicking on Cancel in the Quit dialog box doesn't cause an immediate quit.
* Clicking on No on the Quit dialog box doesn't skip all the other windows.
* Unwrap now marks the window as being changed.
* File names containing ; ^ ! < / and ( are now set up properly in the
windows menu. (AppendMenu doesn't like these characters!)

Best regards -- Ken

[Archived as /info-mac/app/edit-ii-21.hqx; 94K]
[Archived as /info-mac/app/edit-ii-docs-21.hqx; 33K]

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 22:19:17 -0700
From: eric@cse.ucsc.edu
Subject: [*] info-mac/report/comp-sys-mac-comm-faq.txt

Last-modified: Sun Oct 11 1992
This is the Frequently Asked Question (FAQ) list for comp.sys.mac.comm

This list of frequently asked questions and answers is intended to help
reduce the number of "often asked questions" that make the rounds here
in comp.sys.mac.comm. Since comp.sys.mac.comm is intended as a forum to
discuss telecommunication (and related issues) that are specific to the
Macintosh, most questions about modems, telecommunications in general,
and other non-Macintosh specific communication questions are not listed
here. The proper place for such questions is usually comp.dcom.modems,
which has an excellent FAQ-file.

This list is posted periodically (usually every three weeks) to
comp.sys.mac.comm and news.answers. It can also be retrieved via anonymous
FTP from rascal.ics.utexas.edu in the directory mac/faq and at InfoMac
mirrors in the directory info-mac/report.

I have heard that the FAQ is also being archived elsewhere (such as
on CompuServe and America Online). I would appreciate hearing about
such archives so I can better publicize alternative methods for
people to access the FAQ.

This FAQ is purely a volunteer effort. Although every effort has been
made to insure that answers are as complete and accurate as possible,
no guarantee is implied or intended. The editor and contributors have
developed this FAQ as a service to Usenet. We hope you find it useful.

Please send your corrections, questions, and comments to me, Eric Rosen,
the editor of this FAQ, at <eric@cse.ucsc.edu>.

	     SHARE THIS INFORMATION FREELY AND IN GOOD FAITH.
	     DO NOT DISTRIBUTE MODIFIED VERSIONS OF THIS FAQ.

[Archived as /info-mac/report/comp-sys-mac-comm-faq.txt; 104K]

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Date: 08 Oct 1992 20:02:50 -0400 (EDT)
From: FNELSON@ocvaxa.cc.oberlin.edu
Subject: [*] MidiScope 1.5

Here is MidiScope 1.5 by Ralph Muha.  I quote from the users manual:

=====

The Kurzweil MIDIScope is a serious data capture and analysis tool for
the Macintosh.  Unlike some programs which simply display the raw
MIDI data, the MIDIScope offers the following unique features:

A programmable filter to select incoming messages by class and channel.

A real-time display of key velocities, pressure or control values with
peak, average and histogram modes.

A trace buffer with symbolic message display.

A programmable data matcher for triggering the trace buffer.

Distribution

This program has been placed into the Public Domain by Kurzweil Music
Systems, Inc.  As such, it may be distributed freely as long as (a) this
documentation and the attached registration form are included in the
distribution and (b) any identification and copyright notices contained
within the application file itself are unaltered.
This software is not for sale!

posted by:

Gary Lee Nelson, Professor
email: FNELSON@OBERLIN

[Archived as /info-mac/sound/program/midi-scope-15.hqx; 70K]

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 09:17:35 GMT
From: John Forrest <jf@ap.co.umist.ac.uk>
Subject: [*] New version of Colorizing HC XCMD (v1.1.2)

Please find enclosed v1.1.2 of the Colorize HC XCMD stack. This replaces
v1.1. Unfortunately this was sent containing some externals that should
have been removed. The new version contains some extra functionality, such
as signal HCinit to initialise colour, but the main change is the
introduction of an Aids stack - offloading authoring aids from the XCMD
stack.

I sent this on 16thSep, but since no-one is carrying it, I presume it did
not get through.

The following message is from v1.1:

This is a new version of the Colorizing HC XCMD stack. The stack it
replaces (v1.0) was a set of support scripts for the colorizeHC XCMD, which
is included. This version goes further: it is a general tool for creating
the sort of stacks where you wish to perform some function everytime the
stack becomes visible - changing some graphics, showing some windows,
changing the position and visibility of buttons and fields, etc. There are
many more facilaties, and is worth looking at, even if you don't intend to
colour your stacks. Unlike previously, a version of the original Colorizing
Hypercard stack (from BungDabba) is included - although modified to use the
XCMD stack - which serves as the major reference to the XCMD itself. Some
monochrome support is provided, in terms of using picture windows, and all
the main stacks supplied are readable in black and white - don't expect to
see the demos working though.

I hope you find it useful. Apart from referencing, this is all supplied
without restrictions on its use. Note that you need Hypercard 2.0v2 or
later for the XCMD to work - it is shipped as a Hypercard 2.0 stack.

John

[Archived as /info-mac/card/x/colorize-112.hqx; 225K]

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:17:49 -0600
From: nygard@mailbox.mail.umn.edu
Subject: [*] PowerPeriod Startup Screen

Here's the Apple System 7.1 Power Period Startup Screen.  Very well done.

/nygard@mailbox.mail.umn.edu/Administrative Data Management/U of MN/

[Archived as /info-mac/art/power-period-startup.hqx; 27K]

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:15:24 -0500
From: parshall@ecn.purdue.edu (Jim Parshall)
Subject: [*] ProgressWdw_v1.sit.hqx

The Progress Window XCMD is used for providing progress reports to the
user.  The obvious feature of this XCMD is the thermometer indicator
showing percent complete.  While it appears as a modal dialog, it really
is an extended XCMD window.  It ignores all keys presses and mouse
clicks.  It can also show an optional icon and the text and icon can
be changed at anytime under script control.

[Archived as /info-mac/card/x/progress-window.hqx; 22K]

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 06:37 CDT
From: "Thomas L. Hausmann" <HAUSMANN@iscsvax.uni.edu>
Subject: [*] Resolve Text Parser

Someone asked about parsing fixed length records from a text file.  I
downloaded this from AOL last night.  Please note that I am not the author.

-Tom

> Written By:  Alan Field & Kevin Jundt
>
> Parser is designed to help you import comma and semi-colon separated as well
as
> fixed length text files into Claris Resolve.  It may not properly import all
> such files.  Use it at your own risk.  You must own a registered copy of
> Resolve in order to use this software.  It is not stand-alone and requires
> Resolve in order to operate.  Neither the authors, nor MicroPuppy Software,
> make any warranty, either express or implied, with respect to this
software.
> Parser is unsupported.  Neither the authors, nor MicroPuppy Software, nor
> Claris Corporation, will provide any assistance with this software.
>
> Copyright 1991, MicroPuppy Software.  Permission is granted to make and
> distribute copies of this software provided this disclaimer and copyright
> notice are preserved on all copies.  This utility may not be sold or
> distributed for profit, or included with other software which is sold or
> distributed for profit, without the permission of the author.
>
> Parser is public domain.  There is no shareware fee.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/resolve-text-parser.hqx; 110K]

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:15:43 -0500
From: parshall@ecn.purdue.edu (Jim Parshall)
Subject: [*] SearchPlus_v1.sit.hqx

SearchPlus is a new search XFCN which performs the same basic operation
as the Search XFCN included with HyperCard, but with four enhancements:

a. Better "searchWhole" characteristics:  The HC Search XFCN will find
   "10" in "1000" with searchWhole on!
b. Optional ignore-delimiters feature.
c. Unlimited (well, you know) return string length.
d. Additional information is returned about the found chunks: Besides
   the line number and item number, it also returns item number _within_
   the found line, and the character number of the container.

It also uses HyperCard's itemDelimiter function (not necessarily a
comma).  HyperCard 2.1 is required.

[Archived as /info-mac/card/x/search-plus.hqx; 21K]

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 21:17:06 CDT
From: "hui dong" <hd12@midway.uchicago.edu>
Subject: [*] space-invader-101.hqx

Subject: SpaceInvader! 1.01 update

Here is SpaceInvader! 1.01 update. The update has an improved graphics, and
fix a bug for the Graphic Card users (it's tested and should run on macs
with graphic card installed). There are also other small modifications.
Please replace the 1.0 version. Thank you very much.
The file is compressed and binhexed with Compact Pro 1.33, 440K.

[Archived as /info-mac/game/space-invader-101.hqx; 358K]

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 12:18:44 EST
From: mjlowe@acacia.ccsd.uts.edu.au (Michael Lowe)
Subject: [*] SpeedyFinder7 1.5.4 (control panel)

Version: 1.5.4 (08-Oct-92)

Bug fixes: the conflict with Helium 2.1.1 (and the problem with the Standard
File Dialog popupmenu) has now been fixed. As both Control Panels compete to
remove the Balloon Help Menu, turning my balloon menu on with Helium's
balloon menu off will do nothing. If you turn Helium's balloon menu off and
then my balloon menu off, your Balloon Menu will return to the application's
menu bar without having to re-launch that application (something Helium
doesn't do)! Zoom rectangles are now removed from the final release System
7.1 and consequently will no longer work with the B7 release 7.1. Fixed a
bug that caused the "SpeedyFinder7 application icon" to get scrambled. It
also caused launching applications to consistently crash the Mac.
Improvements: hot keys" allowing instant access to balloon help (somewhat
like Helium). Control Panel interface layout change/improvement. The "floppy
icons" and associated checkboxes now give you visual feedback on what the
icons will look like. Power users can now enter 4-letter types instead of
having to locate a file of that type. You can set the tolerance before the
Finder displays sizes in Meg rather than k. "Ctrl-Command-F" will locate
the application that created the document. The "...alias" suffix is now
customisable. The alert that appears before a non-floppy volume unmount can
be suppressed. Thought that I would at least offer some competetion to
CopyDoubler so I included the "speed empty trash" feature.

Author: Victor Tan.

[Archived as /info-mac/cp/speedy-finder7-154.hqx; 69K]

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 14:15:05 -0500
From: parshall@ecn.purdue.edu (Jim Parshall)
Subject: [*] StatusWdw_v1.sit.hqx

The Status Window XCMD is used for providing non-response status reports
to the user.  While it appears as a modal dialog, it really is an
extended XCMD window.  It ignores all keys presses and mouse clicks.  It
can also show an optional icon and the text and icon can be changed at
anytime under script control.

[Archived as /info-mac/card/x/status-window.hqx; 22K]

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Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 16:54:02 EDT
From: tom prusa <TPRUSA@CCVM.sunysb.edu>
Subject: [*] Submission of PowerAlias 1.0

someone recently asked for a utility that would act as an
aliad for multiple applications.  well, here is a little application
that does the trick: andrew anker's PowerAlias (version 1.0).

Double-clicking on PowerAlias allows you to configure what
5 applications will be started-up by dragging-and-dropping
files on the PowerAlias icon.  The included read.me file
explains the program in more detail.  Shareware.

The enclosed file is a binhexed disk-doubler self-extracting
archive.

if you have questions, please pass them on to andrew directly.
his internet address in included in the read.me file.

tom prusa

[Archived as /info-mac/util/power-alias-10.hqx; 33K]

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 20:57:39 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: [*] ToggleAT v2

The response from my ToggleAT FKEY was great but everyone, myself included,
wanted a way to know whether it was turning AppleTalk on or off since the
effect is somewhat subtle.  So I added two signals.  First, the words
"AppleTalk On" or "AppleTalk Off" are displayed in the menubar.  Also, if
the sounds named "AppleTalk On" or "AppleTalk Off" exist, they will be
played.

For the uninitiated, ToggleAT is an FKEY that turns AppleTalk on if it is
off and off if it is on.  This is very useful for the PowerBook crowd since
AppleTalk sucks batteries.

Have fun!

Jon

[Archived as /info-mac/fkey/toggle-appletalk.hqx; 16K]

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Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 16:12:13 -0700
From: brochman@sfu.ca
Subject: [*] upload

Please delete my previous contribution CHAOS - SIMULATOR.HQX.... and
replace it with this new, better version.

[Archived as /info-mac/app/chaos-simulator.hqx; 232K]

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 18:23:00 -0400
From: Michael Travers <mt@media.mit.edu>
Subject: [*] Xochi stack

Xochi Stack 1.0 is a HyperCard stack on the psychedelics that runs on
the Macintosh computer. Profiled in this educational stack are MDMA
and LSD, as well as an Aztec deity devoted to traditional sacred
plants of Mexico.  Feel free to copy the software for friends, put on
FTP sites, BBSs, et cetera, but you do not have the right to sell
copies of this copyrighted material.

Xochi Stack 1.0 is a public service message from LordNose!, and
(c) 1992 LordNose! Donations of 400K diskettes greatly appreciated.

We're not advocating illegal drug use, just giving some factual
grounding to the population that already uses these compounds and
to counter some of the poisonous propaganda out there.  Most of the
information circulating is erroneous, emphasizing either the simple
hedonistic aspects of particular substances, or warning of the
ominous consequences of their use.

	lordnose@well.sf.ca.us

"THE ADVANCEMENT AND DIFFUSION OF KNOWLEDGE IS THE ONLY
 GUARDIAN OF TRUE LIBERTY." -- James Madison, 4th US President

[Archived as /info-mac/card/xochi-10.hqx; 219K]

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 18:38:24 -0400
From: csuley@cs.cornell.edu (Christopher Suley)
Subject: [*] Zipple 1.3.1

This is version 1.3.1 of Zipple.  Please replace any earlier versions you
may have, especially version 1.3, which contained a bug that this version
fixes!

Zipple is a control panel/extension that allows you to place an animated
image of your choice over the title of your Apple, Balloon Help, or
Application menu.  You can use one of the ready-made images, or create
your own with the handy built-in editor.

Version 1.3.1 allows you to have a random image chosen each time you
startup, and it allows you to choose which menu, Apple, Balloon Help, or
Application, Zipple will draw over.

Zipple works on any Macintosh running System 6 or System 7.

This is a Stuffit 1.5.1 archive.

[Archived as /info-mac/cp/zipple-131.hqx; 51K]

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Date: 12 Oct 92 14:28:18 GMT
From: j8bm006@stan.xx.swin.OZ.AU (Chocolate Lucy)
Subject: (Q) Faulty SCSI Controller? HELP!

Recently, my Mac refused to boot up  with a sad Mac error code of
	"0000000F
	 00000003"
I suspected the internal HD to have had a headcrash on the way home.
After disabling it, I managed to start up from a ext. Syquest. But
I couldnot managed to do much else due to excessive read/write
errors. I tested the Syquest on other machine without any error.
I assumed the SCSI Controller is faulty or even just the SCSI
connector on the mac. Can anyone offer any help? Can I get a
replacement SCSI controller without paying for a full motherboard
swap? Any advice welcome.

The mac is a Ci, with 20mb ram, 40 Quantum HD.

Thank you

KIM
j8bm006@stan.xx.swin.oz.au

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 18:31:07 -0700
From: C Mealy <mookie@u.washington.edu>
Subject: (Q) Stylewriter ink cartridge refills

Can I refill the ink cartridge on the Stylewriter myself? What ink do I use?
Is there a FAQ somewhere with info? Thanks
					    Chris

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 13:16:51 EDT
From: Scott Kaplan <sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu>
Subject: 24-bit addressing and virtual memory.

In info-mac #243 (I think), apgar@apple.com writes:
No, no, no... 24 bit addressing can access 2^24 which is 16 Megs.
Take away 2 Megs for ROM and I/O and take away one Meg for video (most
people
use the on-booard video or a video card), thus if you have 10 or 12
Megs or RAM and you are in 24 bit addressing, you can set VM to 13 Megs.
As long as you have no other NuBus cards that take away a Meg...
-----
Okay, yes, I realized that 2^24 is 16 megs...Although thanks for the
explination
of where some of those addresses go and what they're used for...I never knew
that.  But still, the limit the system puts on memory addressing, from every
account I've seen, is 8 megs with the 24-bit addresses going.  If in fact (I
haven't tried myself) 13 megs should be addressed with virutal without going
to
32-bit addresses, then I have two questions:
1) Why can virtual address that much, but with straight RAM the system stops
at
   8 megs?
2) The original question that started this needs a new answer.  Whoever it was
   (sorry, can't remember) that started this found that his memory control
   panel would not let him set virtual to more than 8 megs...when he had more
   than that in the machine.  Something's strange about that, or I'm missing
   something.

Scott Kaplan
sfkaplan@cs.amherst.edu

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:36:16 -0800
From: kcary@pepvax.pepperdine.edu (Kim S. Cary)
Subject: [ANS] Macs and PC's (F)

>From: davegrow@tecnet1.jcte.jcs.mil
>Posted: Oct  9 11:26 EDT (Oct  9 15:26 ZULU)
>Subject: [ANS] Macs and PC's
>
>I also agree that the Mac will likely never dominate the market.  The PC has
>taken it over for a bizarre reason:  currently, the people who buy computers
>buy for capability rather than value.

My theory on this, Dave, is that people buy/specify IBM-clones for two main
reasons:
     1) FALSE ECONOMY -- the money saved in the purchase price of the
		hardware is lost to (check all that apply):

	EXTRA TRAINING EXPENSE, (of course you can blow off the rest of the
		needed training, by making the guys who decide what to do
		tech heads; then if the staff doesn't get it as easily as
		techs
		do, they can say the staff are dummies since "everyone uses
this
		type of computer/software!"
	LOST USER PRODUCTIVITY (due to market leaders like 1-2-3, and
		WordPerfect 5.1 [and 3.3, 4.01] on the DOS side, with arcane
		interfaces that make the occaisional, but necessary, procedure
		difficult to deduce; for their popularity, see 2 below); "I've
		got to admit it's getting better", as the Beatles would
say, but
		the apps. still have a long way to go. Of course, Microsoft,
		King of the Mac software market has a cure for Mac envy...
	SETUP that is difficult to perform/maintain (Windows, yes, even 3.1;
		Novell, that impregnable [in terms of understanding, if not
		security ;-] network).
	FIXING OF HARDWARE INCOMPATIBILITIES, which pop up like hidden reefs
		(ah, the sight of splattered VGA, & squished 3270 on our
		clones
		which are "specially selected for their compatibility").

     2) QWERTY PRINCIPLE -- If we're to believe the legend, our key layout
	was given to us to slow down fast fingers that overran and jammed the
	slow turn-of-the-last-century typewriters. This layout became the
	accepted standard, by virtue of the fact that it was the first one
	that
	worked well. Shortly after this standardization, the mechanisms caught
	up with all but a few of the typists. Why did this layout persist
to the
	turn of this century? One paid such a high price to use it that one
	was
	unwilling to learn another. People have paid so dearly to learn PC,
	invested so much to train their workers, that they're not willing to
	go
	through that again. Add to that, file translation difficulties, and
	you
	get, "Must be 100% IBM compatible".

Don't get me wrong! I love my PC-clone.

I can make it "cook my breakfast" (after the hardware guys deal with the
incompatibilities); but, I'm a propeller-head. For the rest, I spend lots
of time with my DOS staff fixing and re-fixing setups, training and
re-training the same basics, and pointing out manual pages. I jump in and
do-it-myself on the infrequent tasks they have, where they just can't
translate an assumptive procedural list without seeing it done a few times.
The Mac staff, on the other hand, I spend much more time on extending their
reach, than on re-explaining, and interpreting manuals. As for setup,
phhtt! No comparison. Compatibility problems, hah! Stuff you don't need
_usually_ is what louses up your Mac, but your new video board, or latest
device driver hangs your PC. Macs do have their problems, but again, no
comparison.

My wife wants me to stop ranting and turn off the computer, so I'll spare
you the rest. Viva DOS, Ave Windows, but give us the liberty to Mac, too.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 18:48:31 CDT
From: Graeme Forbes <PL0BALF@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU>
Subject: Ada compiler (A)

Small Ada is available for the Mac. It's a compiler/interpreter for
the Pascal subset of Ada plus Ada tasking support. Contact Michael
Feldman in CompSci at GWU, 202-994-5253 or mfeldman at seas.gwu.edu.

Graeme Forbes

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 01:18:52 GMT
From: swier@netcom.com (Bill Swier)
Subject: ADA compiler for mac?

Info-Mac@sumex-aim.stanford.edu writes:

>       I am looking for an ADA compiler for Macintosh, either commercial or
>PD/shareware. In case you are wondering why would I need an ADA compiler for
>Mac, is for a girlfriend of mine who has to take an ADA course (no choice!).
>Anyone has ever heard of such a thing?

>       Thanks, Fabio Favata

>               ffavata@estsa2.estec.esa.nl

Alsys makes an Ada compiler that runs under MPW for the Mac. I haven't used
it, just looked into Ada compilers recently. I believe that it costs
about $300. I have their phone number at work. Let me know if you need it.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92  20:37 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Amazing expanding clipboard

I frequently find that my Clipboard does not shrink again after its contents
have been replaced by something smaller.  For example, if I Copy a 300k
graphic image, my Clipboard will swell to that size if it wasn't already
that large.  But say I now copy one line of text to the Clipboard.  More
often than not, the Clipboard stubbornly stays at 300k!
Has anybody else seen this behaviour?  Any ideas why?  My non-reducing
Clipboard even survives System restarts but sooner or later shrinks back
to an appropriate size for its contents; I haven't managed to come up with
a pattern for any of this yet.  My workaround (and I do one as I don't have
much free disk space to play with!) is to simply delete the Clipboard - the
OS just recreates it when it needs to.  But then another minor mystery: you
can do quite a few cut and paste operations, involving large chunks of data,
with no trace of a Clipboard!  Something to do with the data going into
memory rather than onto disk, methinks?

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 15:12:01 +0100
From: "Dr. Christoph van Wuellen"
<HBO043%DJUKFA11.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Another joke on a light bulb

Since I read a joke on a light bulb in last info-mac:

How many software engineers to you need to replace a light bulb?

-- You can take any number, they won't get it since it is a hardware
   problem!

C.v.W.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 06:01:20 -0700
From: mikeg@ingres.com (Mike Glendinning)
Subject: Apple Charging for System 7.1 (C)

Does anybody know if System 7.1 will be available on the developer CDROMs
in the same way as all the other system versions?  If this is the case,
then the cheapest way to get System 7.1 will be to buy a single copy of
"Develop" from APDA at $10.00.  You won't get the floppy disks or anyt
documentation, but you'll at least have the software!

If System 7.1 isn't going to be on the Developer CDs, then I can see a
lot of small third-part developers getting rather annoyed and having
to spend more money just to check compatibility with their products.

-Mike.

mikeg@ingres.com

------------------------------

Date: Saturday, 10 Oct 1992 00:28:01 EDT
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Apple ISDN NuBus Card - Where hast thou gone?

My understanding matches what has been said about the Apple ISDN NuBus
card.  It's history.  But fret not, there are other choices.  A French
company makes an ISDN NuBus card.  The company, called Pilot, I believe,
distributes the card in the United States through Compression Labs Inc.
CLI's number is:  (408) 435 - 3000.  (Warning: I'm not 100% sure that
I have all the facts right.  Call CLI to make sure).

A side comment on the Apple ISDN NuBus.  West Virginia University was one
of the beta testers/developers for the card.  It works 95% of the time,
but there are some unfixed bugs in the firmware and software.  For example,
the V.120 rate adaption can crash calls.  We told Apple about it, but
they responded, "OK, we'll get in the next revision."  Our thoughts are the
time were (to quote Jay Leno), "SURE THEY WILL!"  Guess they knew something
we didn't!

Jeffrey Fritz
West Virginia University

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92  20:03 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Asante Ethernet-SCSI adaptor - problem

I spent this evening trying unsuccessfully to hook up a IIsi to a thin
Ethernet network via its SCSI port using an Asante Ethernet-SCSI adaptor.
What seems to go wrong is that the IIsi is completely unable to communicate
to/through the EN-SI box.  Symptoms:
(1)  At boot time, the power light on the box stays on for only a couple of
seconds and then goes off, indicating a hang (says the manual).  This causes
the IIsi to freeze in its tracks also, so the bootup can't be completed.
Resetting the adaptor as suggested (by turning its power off and on again)
does not help.  We have to disconnect the Asante box in order for the IIsi
to boot normally.
(2)  Even with the box not connected, we sometimes find the IIsi will not
boot.  You get a happy Mac symbol, then Welcome To Macintosh, then it
abruptly stops accessing the hard disk.  Two minutes later it will access
the hard disk again, then stop.  Booting was even slower than usual off a
floppy and it was accompanied by more long pauses.  The solution was zapping
the PRAM (I must have done it 10 times this evening, and I have never had to
do it in 4 years of using Macs!).  If we then tried to boot with the Asante
box connected, the whole process would freeze up again, necessitating another
PRAM zap.  The box must have been causing the problem because restarting
without it connected presented no problems.
It's a bit hard to describe everything we encountered this evening, but
basically we're stuck because we can't do anything okay if the Asante
adaptor is connected.  We came up with a workaround which was to use
Local Talk to a Quadra on Ethernet, but obviously that's not the idea.
What could be going wrong?  The IIsi does have a 19" Radius monochrome
monitor, and anything Radius usually spells conflict in my experience
(sorry Radius fans).  Suggestions please

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 22:05:29 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: A Small Problem with PICTs

Apparently there is a small problem with some of my PICTs in that they
were compressed with QuickTime 1.5 (available soon somewhere near you)
and are not decompressible with 1.0.  Damn.  Well, I'm sorry but I don't
have the time or inclination to go back and recompress them.  That means
I should at least warn you about the images that will not be accessible
until you get 1.5.  These images are:

Andromeda
Lagoon_Nebula
Rosette_Nebula

All the rest of them are accessible by QuickTime 1.0.  Sorry for the bother.

Jon

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 19:10:17 EDT
From: J. R. Valentine (Creider) <valentin@cogsci.uwo.ca>
Subject: Audio-digitizing with Mac

Can anyone point me to some literature discussing the
details of audio-digitization with the Mac. Specifically,
I'd like to get answers to the following questions:

a. Which Macs require an external digitizer? Related to
this, does using the built-in audio affect the quality
of the digitization, i.e., is there variation in the
quality of audio-digitizers?

b. What sound formats exist and can one readily translate
   between them? If so, what software is required in order
   to get a sound into HyperCard (this would be very
   useful for language learning applications)?

c. About the mic input jack on the back of the Mac-- it
   seems that this requires attenuation when you try to
   input from a tape recorder-- I have not been able to
   get really high quality from my Sony (a very *fine*
   tape recorder/player) tape material which I've tried
   to digitize. What is the best configuration for
   recording? I.e., type of cord, software, etc.

Thanks in advance,

Randolph Valentine
valentin@julian.uwo.ca

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 23:08:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Benjamin White <bwhite@pennsy.med.jhu.edu>
Subject: AutoDoubler 2.0

Hi all, I recently have seen references to AutoDoubler 2.0.  I am a
registered user of 1.0.7 and am wondering what I have to do to upgrade and
what, if anything, I would gain by doing so?

Thanks in advance,

Ben White
Johns Hopkins School of Medicine
bwhite@pennsy.med.jhu.edu

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:14:08 -0500
From: mcj@chem.wayne.edu (Martin Josso)
Subject: AutoDoubler Int. Comp. Bug?

AD internal compressor is supposed to create files that will work just like
the uncompressed version. It is true for the most part but I have found
that any internally compressed Control Panel will crash if used when the
Mac is restarted with all extensions off (shift key). I have not been able
to find out what is required for proper function but the requirements seem
complex. I called 5th Generation but the tech support person was unaware of
the problem.
This problem aside, I think this is a great utility that justifies the
price of the upgrade.

							Martin Josso

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 17:57:53 BST
From: Jonathan Whiteland <jonw@CIS.Prime.COM>
Subject: Buying A Home Comuter (Many Questions)

This message is about buying a home computer for wp and email access.
I've already posted this to another list (with an (largely?) different
audience). I'd welcome personal email with any suggestions, or experiences,
etc.

I'm particularly interested to hear from people who use their home
computer as their *primary* access to the internet. The time-frame
(significant since Apple is rejigging prices and models as we speak)
is before the end of the year, ideally mid-November.

Many thanks for any help you can give me,

     Jonathan W.

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------

BUYING A HOME COMPUTER

  Introduction

    Let me come clean here: I'd like to buy a Mac. If only they
    weren't quite so expensive... I guess I'm also considering 386 PCs
    with Windows.

    I don't think I need anything portable, so I can avoid the price
    premium for that. However, I do need something compact (it'll be
    sitting in the corner of my bedroom, after all).

    I'll need a modem, and some wp software that will do any font (I'm
    very into fonts), and a printer that can cope with any font and
    graphics.

    The question possibly missing from below is "What Usenet service
    should I subscribe to?", that's because I plan to switch to using
    dialup to a VAX host at my old employer (Anglia University) - I
    don't have dialup access to here.

  The Questions

    1. What computer should I buy?

	 I guess the budget is sub 1000 pounds. Monitor: I would
	 always trade colour for definition and size. Should I buy
	 new: dealer/mail order; or second hand? What about Mac monitors?

    2. What printer should I buy?

	 I can't afford a PostScript laser printer. One of the new
	 bubblejet ones perhaps, and Adobe Type Manager? Ideally 1+2
	 should still be less than 1000 pounds. Anyone using this kind
	 of set up? How expensive are they to run?

    3. What modem should I buy?

	 Sub 300 pounds?? Not sure what you get for you money. I can
	 connect to the VAX at 2400 or up to 9600. How does modem
	 compression work: do you have to have identical makes of
	 modem at both ends? BT only *guarantees* 1200 to PSS (which I
	 don't currently need to use), is this really pessimistic?
	 Should I buy an internal or external modem?

    4. What word processor should I buy?

	 I want it to be zippy. Is Word5 overweight now? I also need
	 good font support, multicolumns, style sheets, diagram
	 inclusion. Also MAC<->PC compatibility (Word Perfect) would
	 be an issue if I bought a Mac [please say I can buy a Mac :-)]

    5. What comms package should I buy?

	 This is where I have the least clue. I need something that
	 lets me use the modem to dial up: that's easy: Procomm or
	 RedRyder perhaps? Clearly I'd want to be able to automate the
	 log on process. Ideally I'd want to automate the log on,
	 check for mail, download, and log off process. I'd expect to
	 be able to use a non-commercial package for this.

	 5.1  If I compress files on a VAX before transfer (using
	      what?) how do I uncompress them at home (using what?)?

	 5.3  Anyone composing messages offline and using clever
	      macros to get it up and off?

	 5.2  Anyone using a full-blown OLR (Off Line Reader)?

	 5.4  Anyone doing this unattended, daily?

    6. Is there a good freebie/cheap backup utility for the computer?

    7. Do home maintenance contracts work or am I better off relying on
       the friendly university support folks?

    8. Any experience of how much this kind of set up (local calls)
       costs in UK phone bills?

    9. Can I buy a Mac please?

 --------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Jonathan Whiteland      Computervision R&D Ltd       jonw@cis.prime.com
		    Harston Mill, Harston, Cambridge, UK
 --------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 9:25:11 EDT
From: Spencer_Marks@mathworks.com (Spencer Marks)
Subject: C Lister / PrettyC revisite

		      C Lister / PrettyC revisited
I'd like to thank everyone who suggested source code printing utilities. It
appears that there are less out there than I thought. Everyone who
responded, suggested PrettyC. I got this app and tried it out and it does
have all the features I'd like but it doesn't work on my Quarda 700 with 32
bit addressing turned on. I've written the autho, but judging from the old
date of the version ( 1.5.1) I  suspect he no longer supports it.

If anyone else has suggestions for a program that prints and indexes  C
source I'd appreciate it. Please  email responses to spencer@mathwork.com

Thanks, Spencer

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 18:34:17 EDT
From: Randy Patton <PATTONR@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU>
Subject: CTB modem tools?

Thanks to all who responded to my last post.

Does anyone know where I can obtain Ymodem and Zmodem tools for the Mac
Communications Toolbox?  I've recently downloaded the wonderful Termy
program from Sumex and I'd love to have tools for more than just Xmodem,
text and Kermit.  ftp.apple.com doesn't seem to have anything beyond the
basics
; does anyone know who does?  Thanks.

Love and Rockets,
H. Randy Patton

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 22:21:03 EDT
From: Shaw Bernard Wu <swu@future.stern.nyu.edu>
Subject: Database "Engine" (c)

>I am new to Mac programming.  I am learning C with Think C v5.0 and would
>like to start doing some 'real' application work.  The type of application
>that I want to work on lends itself to a database.  Does anyone know of
>any database engines for the Macintosh?? I know of one, InsideOut II.  The
>problem with this is that if I ever market my application, I would have
>to pay a royalty to the InsideOut people.  There has to be other packages.
>BTW - is there a 'standard' database format for the Mac.  On the PC,
>dBase is sort of the industry standard.

Well, I'm not sure if I can help you find a database "engine".

However, FoxBase and soon FoxPro will probably be the standard dB
package on the Macintosh. It is already quite prevalent on the PC side.

4th Dimension is probably the best relational db package for the Mac.

We use INGRES, SQL/DS, and DB2 on various Sun SPARCs and IBM minis. And
for serious db work (especially "industrial strength"), these packages
should be used. Otherwise, I guess PC packages like dBase should be more
than enough for smaller workgroups.


Shaw Wu, NYU Stern Business- Finance & Info. Systems
<swu@future.stern.nyu.edu> <swu@sales.stern.nyu.edu>

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 15:26:05 edt
From: "Maxwell Smart (Soell, Oliver)" <SOELL@DICKINSON.EDU>
Subject: Dawn 2.01

Does anyone know if there are any incompatabilities for Dawn 2.01? Dawn 2.01
is a control panel which handles startupscreens and startup sounds. It also
chooses random screens/sounds from ones you have specified and displays
screens with their own palette instead of the systems. I say all of this from
observation of my friends computer, because it doesn't work on mine. I'm
running a Mac II with 5 megs, sys 7.01, and lots of extensions/cps including
the now utils 4.0 package and Maxapplezoom (which is excellent, by the way..
I pity all of you with built in video in the II-class machines). If anyone
knows anything more about Dawn, or can suggest a replacement, I'd be
eternally grateful.
	thanks

	Oliver Soell
	Soell@Dickinson.edu

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:22:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Eldon Barber <ribarbe@eis.CalState.EDU>
Subject: DOS-INIT possible Trojan??

This is really juicy, the DOS-INIT thing.  I've read the past week's
stuff, and have a good guess.  Yes, it is a Trojan Horse, aimed at it's
commercial counterparts.  It seems that every conflict reported has to do
with Mac<-->PC applications such as SoftPC, Apple File Ex, ktl..
Possible infractions include corporate sabbotage, but I do not mean to
offend the author(s) or loyal users.
---Rick Barber, ribarbe@eis.calstate.edu
		kd6kxr@wa6nwe.#noca.usa.na

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 21:37:41 MEZ
From: Patrick Maun <R5321GAB%AWIUNI11.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: DoveFax, PowerBook 140 update (Q)

Hello all,

      I am having a problem with my Powerbook 140. When I put it to

sleep and then wake it up it crashes. I usually have cursor control

but it is none-the-less dead and nothing will save it 'cept a restart.

Anyone know of any extensions or control panel conflicts? I am

using PopChar, ATM 2.0.3,  SuperClock 3.9, Helium,

SAM 3.0.0, Extensions Manager 1.6, and BeHierarchic 1.0.5. Also

to note is a conflict with Lotus 1-2-3 and SAM 3.0.0 Anyone else

have this (it was on an LCII). Any patches, updates?

     I also have a DoveFax with mondo problems. The extensions
FaxMonitor 2.0.3 crashes during the startup with an unimplemented
trap. Help! Dove has been no help whatsoever. I have called and
always been told that a technition would get back to me. This has
yet to happen. Anyone know if there is an update or problems with
the PowerBooks that can somehow be solved?

     Also, as an (un)lucky 140 owner; where's my stuff? I want a 25

Mhrz CPU dammit! Anyone offering cheap upgrades. Sorry if this

is a redundant question, I have been away and not read any of the

lists lately. Hmmm, let's see, if I open up my Powerbook and poke

at the CPU with some stuff, the send it to Apple(TM) and say it "dun

broke" will they put in a new CPU? Makes my thoughts get all hazy

like just thinking about it (1/3 increased performance!!). That's it for

today!



Patrick Maun

Hochschule fuer Angewandte Kunst

Vienna, Austria

R5321GAB@AWIUNI11.BITNET

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 16:39:56 EDT
From: "Dieder B." <UGU00266@vm.uoguelph.ca>
Subject: Epson Printer (!?!?)

A friend of mine sent me a Japanese mac magazine, MacLife, and in it
there was an advertisment for a 360dpi Epson printer that could be
connected to the Mac. In fact, in the advertisement it was connected
to the mac. Looks much like a Kodak diconix printer, but I don't
know much more than that. Anybody have any idea what it is? or
more about it? I'm just curious that's all.

Also, re: October 19th, will Apple be releasing its p.r. on ftp.apple.com?
I'm particularily interested in the new 13" monitor, but I can find
little info about it.

D.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 17:44:40 BST
From: Donald Peterson <D.M.Peterson@computer-science.birmingham.ac.uk>
Subject: Epson printer compatibility

I have a Mac Classic MkI and an Epson compatible Cannon printer
(bought for another computer). I gather I can use them together by
buying an expensive in-line translation box. Is there a software
translator which will let me use the printer with the Mac, best of all
a PD or shareware one?

Donald Peterson.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 18:47:39 CDT
From: Andrew McAllister <C511899@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: Expert System Shells (reply)

I couldn't respond directly to the person who asked this question
originally. So...
I took a class on expert systems about a year ago and was the only
person using a mac. Good, functional expert systems are hard to come by
on the mac. To be honest I don't know of a single shell that would be
worth your time. As of last fall ('91) most of the good shells were
PeeCee based :(. I purchased a shell that was highly recommended by one
of my professors; he said that it was the best available for the mac.
It had a great Mac-like interface with cool buttons and windows for
placing PICTs and text, but it would not reason! The shell was
Intelligent Developer ver 1.51 (I think) published by Hyperpress. If you
are looking for an expert system that will contain only a few (read less
than 10) rules, then by all means give this a try. Otherwise, (Oh, I
hate to say this) take a hard look at some of the less fancy, but more
practical expert system shells designed for the PC and windows.

Originalsender: please e-mail me directly so I can reply to you instead
of the net. I will be happy to go into detail about my experience with
Mac and PC based expert system shells.
Andrew McAllister
c511899@mizzou1.missouri.edu

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 22:13:44 EDT
From: Shaw Bernard Wu <swu@future.stern.nyu.edu>
Subject: Expert System Shells for the Mac (C)

>I need information regarding the availability of Expert System Shells
>available for the Mac whether commercial, shareware, public domain, or
>otherwise.  Any information is very much appreciated.

I am not aware of many Expert Systems applications for the Macintosh.
However, PROLOG seems to be quite a popular 5th generation language for
AI and Expert Systems applications on Sun SPARCs and other workstations/
mainframes.

There is MacProlog I believe, so you should check into that. That's
probably the closest one can get on a Macintosh.


Shaw Wu, NYU Stern Business- Finance & Info. Systems
<swu@future.stern.nyu.edu> <swu@sales.stern.nyu.edu>

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 13:06:53 CDT
From: Reverend John <UC521832@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: Finder Snap-To-Grid changes fixed!

Thanks to those who replied about my problem with the finder's snap-to-
grid changing grid alignments.

The problem was that I had recently switched to Helvetica as the Finder
font (I was experimenting with the condensed-Helvetica option in Speedy
Finder and thought I'd be consistent).

Switching back to Geneva restored the old, much-preferable grid.

A rather odd effect, though...

Rev

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 19:37:16 +22305714 (EDT)
From: "Warren H. James" <wjames@egr.duke.edu>
Subject: Formatting 178MB Hard Drive

   My brother recently acquired a 178MB hard drive of unknown origins
(possibly from a Sun.) He would like to format it for use with his Mac
Plus.  Will he be able to use Apple's HD formatter, or will he need to buy
a special program such as LaCie's Silver Lining?
   Thanks in advance.

-Warren

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 20:19:29 PDT
From: jbthoo@ucdavis.edu ( John Thoo )
Subject: GIFConverter question (Q)

Hello, everyone!

Jon Pugh recently posted some neat PICTs on <ftp.apple.com>, so
I thought I'd grab a few and try my hand at creating some StartupScreens.
Never having done so before, I downloaded GIFConverter 2.3b2 from the
archives to create the StartupScreens.

Problem:  GIFConverter 2.3b2 took a 285K PICT file and converted it
to a 1.5MB (yes, 285K --> 1.5MB) StartupScreen file!

Question:  Is this normal?  Or am I doing something wrong?
I'm saving the StartupScreen files in MacII format because that's
what DeskPict seems to want.  I've grabbed some StartupScreen files
>From the archive before, and they're usually no more than 300K or so.

What gives?  I really can't afford to devote 1.5MB of disc space to a
StartupScreen.

Thanks for your help.

--John.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:25:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Eldon Barber <ribarbe@eis.CalState.EDU>
Subject: Greek Keyboard

Does anyone know where to get a Greek ADB macintosh keyboard?
Eucharisto poly!    ---Rick Barber
ribarbe@eis.calstate.edu
kd6kxr@wa6nwe.#noca.usa.na

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:01:51 -0600 (CST)
From: Brad Sawatzky <sailboat@plasma.usask.ca>
Subject: Help! Ofoto crash on a Sys 6 IIci

Here's the situation:
  Ofoto 1.0.1 (I believe) freezes when the eraser is used to erase a small
portion of scanned-in line art using all the default options for the Apple
OneScanner and the Line Art auto-scan type chosen.  Specifically, after the
graphic is scanned in (about half a page in size), a small chunk of the
graphic is passed over with the eraser tool and the mouse-button released.
The wait icon appears and stays forever (the cursor usually doesn't lock up
though).

  It will not freeze up however, if I chose 1 bit per pixel in the line
art options under one of the menus (from the default 8 bits per pixel).

  This is on an 8Mb IIci running System 6.0.7 with just the "Scanner" INIT
installed. I have tried reinstalling the System, Ofoto and the Scanner
software, running with no INITs except for the one mentioned above. I've
scanned the drive for bad blocks, et al. and optimized with the current
version of MacTools Deluxe.

  Since the people who use this package regularly say that they have done
the operation successfully in the past, I am confused.  It sure sounds
like a (memory-management?) bug in Ofoto...anyone run across anything
similar?

Please reply to InfoMac or to sailboat@plasma.usask.ca.

Thank you!

--Brad Sawatzky

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:55:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Eldon Barber <ribarbe@eis.CalState.EDU>
Subject: Hewlett Packard network gate?

My father was relocated to the Santa Clara plant of Avantek-inc. ( a div.
of HP)   He says his new office will have a computer tied to the rest of
Hewlett Packard's network.  Is there a network gateway with which I could
send him E-mail?  I know this one is a long shot, but there has to be some
one from HP that is a net guru that can straighten me out.
---Rick Barber, ribarbe@eis.calstate.edu

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 07:15:54 EDT
From: Clinton Collins <BEBRF14%NERVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: HyperCard Loops and lots of cards (Q)

I have written a HyperCard Stack which stores information in 5 fields.
Since it is very easy to get "junk" in these fields (extra spaces,tabs
, multiple returns) I wrote a handler which uses a repeat for loop to
go to each card and clean up any junk in the fields.  The stack has a
little over 2000 cards in it. The problem is that as the cleanCards
function runs it gets slower and slower as it approaches the end of the
stack. Do I have a memory problem here? Is HyperCard storing every card
it can in memory hitting a limit and then having to purge a card to
load another and thus slow things way down? If true, how do I tell
HyperCard to purge cards from memory?  It is not important to keep them
in memory for this process.

Send help to Clinton Collins, bebrf14@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 13:16:14 CDT
From: Reverend John <UC521832@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: IBM keyboard--Mac adaptors?

I'm just full of questions these days.

For a while now I've been interested in replacing my Dink-o-Rama
Apple keyboard, the little one without function keys.

Recently at a warehouse-store place I saw a somewhat less-dinky keyboard
with function keys, etc. for about $30, for the IBM. I noticed that the
cable goes several feet and ends in a connector; another cable was
plugged into that connecter, and that one ended in a standed PS/2
jack.

By any chance is there an adaptor to plug such a beast into a mac?
I realize it's unlikely, and that mouse would have to run from the back
of the mac (no ADB ports on the keyboard), but since this is the only
keyboard I've seen that even approaches my budget I had to ask.

Thanks,
Rev

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 09:21:55 NZD
From: N.Perry@massey.ac.nz
Subject: Info-Mac Digest V10 #244

info-mac-request@SUMEX-AIM.STANFORD.EDU (The Moderators):
>
>       I remember a long time ago someone mentioning the problem
>       I am having where my Mac IIsi sound output stops working.
>       At the time I ignored the message since I didn't have a
>       Mac IIsi.
>
>       My only solution is to use the sound control panel and to
>       change the setting of the sound to something higher and then
>       back to the desired setting.  Is there a permanent fix
>       available?  I no longer can read Info-Mac regularly so
>       please reply via E-mail to mnk@mass.dnet.hac.com  Thanks.
>
>       Michael Kimura (mnk@mass.dnet.hac.com)
>       Hughes Aircraft Company
>       Radar Systems Group
>

Hi,
	There is a H/W problem with the IIsi and maybe a S/W one or a
S/W fix to the H/W one... (if that makes sense). The H/W one is to do with
the contacts between the speaker/light wires and the motherboard. These
are hidden under the HD, just clean them (I go the engineer at work to do
mine, he is practised in pulling Macs apart.) The S/W one (or S/W fix to the
H/W
only Apple knows and they're keeping stumb) MAY BE fixed by a little FKEY
I wrote. I too noticed that the Sound CP brought back the sound, but how?
I therefore disassembled the Sound CP and produced an FKEY to mimic its
behaviour, this FKEY may bring your sound back, it may not. The FKEY is
available on sumex, umich etc. and is free.

Hope this helps,

	Nigel

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 17:37:12 GMT
From: astein@nysernet.org (Alan Stein)
Subject: Internet mail to/from GEnie

GEnie has just changed its charges for Internet access.  It now
charges a one time $2 fee to sign up, and 30 cents per message,
ingoing and outgoing, for every 5,000 characters or part thereof in
each message.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 18:18:29 -0700
From: Jon Pugh <jpugh@apple.com>
Subject: Laserwriter IIg versus NTX

I replaced my NTX with a IIg a month or so ago and realized that I hadn't
told the world about the difference, and quite a difference there is too.

The first difference is the memory. The IIg comes with 8 Meg whereas we
only had 5 Meg in the NTX.  The good news is that while the NTX used the
more expensive fx memory, the IIg uses standard SIMMs.  Unfortunately,
whereas the NTX had 12 SIMM slots, the IIg has only 8, and they are all
full.

The second most noticable difference is simply the processing speed.  The
68030 makes a significant increase over the 68020 in the NTX.

The availability of Ethernet makes it a lot faster to download things,
so this is a must if you use Ethernet.

Finally, the Photograde option is awesome!  I used to refrain from printing
color scans because you could never tell people's faces or other details.
Now they come out great!  I just printed a scan of a photo I took that I
had placed in MacWrite.  It looks beautiful.  I can't say enough good stuff
about it.  If you are printing newsletters or other b&w publications, the
IIg or the IIf with additional memory are a must!

Jon

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 20:30:54 +1000
From: Danny Thomas <vthrc@mailbox.uq.oz.au>
Subject: Laserwriter II Repair Cost

in info-mac #241 Al Spohn (spohn@mayo.edu) writes
>I've got a Laserwriter II that I bought about 3 years ago, that, if anything,
>suffered from underuse (it's only on it's second cartridge).  When it started
>"shooting blanks" the other day, I brought it in to Computerland to get it
>checked out.  The estimate was $598 before labor, &755.35 total for a new
>"scanning assembly".  Although I have no real reason to doubt the estimate, I
>thought I'd get some initial impressions on Computerland's repair practices
>and other alternatives I might have, if applicable.  The reason I went to
>Computerland is simply that it's the most conveniently located repair
facility.
    By scanning assembly, I assume that meant the laser/mirror arrangement
that scans and pulses the laser beam across the surface of the
photosensitive drum in the toner cartridge. Recently our oldish LaserWriter
IINT was coming up for its' recommended 10E5 page service when it started
developing grunching noises from a gear in the fuser assembly that had lost
a tooth. I checked at a few Canon service centres and found that a standard
10E5 page service included replacement of fuser assembly amongst quite a
complete overhaul. End result was considerably cheaper (A$400 v ca$700+)
than having it serviced by an Apple dealership.  Of course this avenue
wouldn't be open to you if it was a fault on the Apple controller board but
everything(?) else, sans case badge, is stock Canon.
    Which reminds me of another problem we had with our IINT nearly two
years ago which didn't have such a happy ending. No test page on startup
and the LEDs displayed an internal error condition. We gave it to our
dealer for a quote: A$1600+ for a replacement controller! Although the
limited diagnostics at their disposal indicated a problem with one of the
DRAMs, it didn't say which one. Now I happen to think that module
replacement can be an efficient way of servicing cause it means that every
dealer doesn't need to handle board-level repairs on a lot of different
products, they can be sent back to a central location which is properly
setup.
    What made me angry/frustrated was a few weeks previously I'd heard a
story from someone who went to a SF MacWorld and Apple had put on a special
tour through the factory for this group of people from Australian
dealerships. Part of his story was that all boards for repair from around
the entire globe were sent to California (after local evaluation as to
how-well-cooked they were) and strapped into automated test-jigs which
successfully diagnosed the problem in 95% of cases. The remaining ones were
repaired by one (Japanese) person! All sounded pretty efficient but it
seems the replacement cost is *not* related to the cost of repair or
production, but to the RRP. Those people who've seen a IINT controller
would recognize that it isn't really high-tech, and out of interest I
costed the parts on it at A$750 (US$600). And that was based on one-off
retail prices from a convenient source that isn't the cheapest you could
find. I understood that a significant premium on the board would go to
Adobe for the licence of the PostScript interpreter but that shouldn't be
factored into the replacement cost. In the words of Queen Victoria "We were
not amused".

cheers (X500 'address' follows though our DSA appears off-line at present),
@c=AU@o=University of Queensland@ou=Physiology and Pharmacology Department
@ou=Vision Touch and Hearing@cn=Danny
Thomas@rfc822Mailbox=vthrc@cc.uq.oz.au

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 18:40:08 EDT
From: Alex.Sirota@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: Little Black Book - Where?


I checked Archie.sura.net and could NOT find Little Black Book. Does  anyone
know where I can find this nifty utility. Mine just stopped working on
me all of the sudden before I could even send in my fee.

Alex

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 08:45:24 +0800
From: rcjpjrv@uxmail.ust.hk (Rick Jarvis)
Subject: Logo for Mac & Drag/Drop Pallette

Is there a shareware or commercial version of Logo for the Mac? My daughter
has started to develop an interest in computing and I thought that might be
a good way for her to begin. TIA.

On another note, the best advice I got on a dock/pallette for drag&drop was
to just use a folder of aliases placed in the Apple menu items. Not quite
what I was hoping for, but quite serviceable; also, the price and
availibility were right! :) Thanks to all who responded.

Rick Jarvis, Hong Kong Univ Sci & Tech, rcjpjrv@uxmail.ust.hk

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 11:01:25 PDT
From: kroemer@apex.ece.ucsb.edu (Herb Kroemer)
Subject: Mac II memory limits

In #244, Randy Patton asks:

>I need to know how much memory a Mac II can actually access.  For a long
>time the conventional wisdom has been that a II can use only 8MB without
>a ROM upgrade to a IIx, but recently I've been hearing differently.  An
>acquaintance of mine insists that a II can use 4MB SIMMs if Connectix's
>Maxima utility is installed, and he also believes that a stock out-of-the-
>box II can use 2MB SIMMs in bank B without either Maxima or the ROM
>upgrade.

Maxima will let you address up to 14Megs, but the 14 Megs will not be
contiguous (which rarely matters).

I suggest you call Connectix [(800) 950-5880] and ask them for their FREE
"Macontosh Memory Guide", one of the best description of memory intricacies
I have ever seen.

Regards,

Herb K.

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:13:36 -0700 (PDT)
From: Richard Eldon Barber <ribarbe@eis.CalState.EDU>
Subject: Mac LC Problem (A)

   > I'm concerned. I have owned a Macintosh LC for just over a year
   > and a half. In that time, I've had two hard drives go out. Now,
   > there's a problem getting video to the high resolution Apple
   > 13-inch monitor! The problem doesn't appear to be in the monitor
   > but on the logic board. Anybody have any suggestions as to what it
   > might be?
   >
   > It is somewhat intermittent. I can actually watch the screen fade
   > to black. Then five minutes later, the screen might fade back in.
   > Sometimes it won't come back for hours.
	       -Monte Olsen

It is so exciting to me to see someone had the exact same problem as I.
The screen fades rendered my information dependent life useless for a
whole month.  Then I finally got the energy to take it to the dealer to
ask him about it.  They fixed my 2.5 year old 13inch for absolutly free!
This is because the problem lies in a faulty Hi-voltage cap in the
MONITOR.  Apple recognised this and it is on indefinite extended warantee,
or whatever you call it when they fix old stuff for free.  Keep the faith
Monte!
---Rick Barber, ribarbe@eis.calstate.edu
		kd6kxr@wa6nwe.#noca.usa.na

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92  20:23 BST
From: RICHARD LIM <RTL%SIVA.BRISTOL.AC.UK@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: MacNosy?

I was just browsing through the new edition of Scott Knaster's book on
Mac programming (sorry, don't remember the title) in the bookshop today, and
I came across a reference to a Mac disassembler called MacNosy.  Great, I
thought to myself, my programmer friend has been after a disassembler for ages
and now we've finally heard of one.  But where do we get it?  Does anyone know
of any other good disassemblers?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 10:41 CDT
From: <GM07661%SWTEXAS.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: MacProducts Visit

I will be visiting MacProducts in a couple of weeks to check on a
21 inch panasonic monochrome monitor for a database user at work.

If anyone has had any experience with this monitor good or bad, please
e-mail me about it.

Also, I would be very happy to deliver complaints from anyone on the
net about MacProduct service/sales staff etc.  I doubt they have access
to Info-Mac and feel that they might change their tune if only they knew
what the world was saying about them.  again send complaints via e-mail.

	Gordon Muth
	GM07661@SWTexas.Bitnet

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:37:48 -0500
From: Steve Strassmann <straz@cambridge.apple.com>
Subject: MacScheme Support (A)

  Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 03:46:39 -0400
  From: DL10@cornell.edu (Don Lee)
  Subject: MacScheme Support?

  Does anyone know whatever happend to "Semantic Microsystems, Inc." (not
  Symantec) who once sold MacScheme?  I tried calling the number in the
  "About" box, but they've apparantly either moved or closed shop.  If anyone
  has a current number or know of another party that has taken over support,
  I'd appreciate hearing from you.

  The specific question I had about MacScheme was whether or not there have
  been any versions later than 2.1.  Version 2.1 does not seem to be 32-bit
  compatible.

They changed their name a few years back to Lightship (to avoid
conflicts), and recently moved from Oregon to silicon valley.
I think they're up to release 4.0 these days, which should be System 7
savvy.

Lightship Software
13 Forest Glen St.
Mt. View, CA 94043
415-694-7799 (main number)
800-531-3227 or 801-484-3923 (sales)

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 09 Oct 1992 16:02:05 -0500
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: MacWord -> WinWord ? (A)

knight@swfmc1.SINet.SLB.COM (Francis Knight, SIEM UK Felixstowe) writes:

  > A thought occurred while reading Jacob Palme's note on converting Word
  > for Mac docs to WinWord docs. Does it work the other way round? Or is
  > it just a diode for users migrating from Mac to Windows?

    You can read and write files in the WinWord format.  Indeed, you can
make that your default format.  Mind you, the file translation is often
less than perfect (especially if you do Word/Mac 5 --> WordPerfect 5.1
--> Word/Mac 5).  Still, it is OSTENSIBLY bidirectional.



------------------------------

Date: Fri, 09 Oct 92 23:58:42 EST
From: marka@MIT.EDU (Mark R Anderson)
Subject: Max memory with VM/24 bit

>Matthew Cravit states:
>
>Quite simply, VM cannot be turned on in this situation because you
>cannot allocate more memory.  With 32-bit addressing OFF, the address
>path of the Mac is 24-bits.  This corresponds to 2**24 possible memory
>addresses.  This translates to a maximum of 8 megabytes of RAM.  After
>that, the computer quite simply runs out of addresses for the extra
>RAM space.  Turning 32-bit addressing on changes the maximum address
>to 2**32, or about 1 Gigabyte (I think.)

A few points:

- 24 bits corresponds to 16 meg (2^24).

- without 32 bit on I (and I assume everyone else) can only address 8
meg of RAM max. Perhaps someone can explain what happened to the last
bit!

- with 24-bit only I have got 13 meg total memory with virtual memory
(with 5 meg RAM). I have no idea why I couldn't get more than 13 meg, by
my calculations that works out at 23.70 bit memory. I did have enough HD
space, but maybe it was too fragmented.
(I was definitely in 24 (or 23.70) bit mode - I have since gone to 17
meg and 32-bit, and some of the things I used to run didn't like 32-bit
mode)

No doubt this will help to keep things confusing...

Mark.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 04:19:19 -0700
From: i6bk@odin.cc.pdx.edu (Brian Korver)
Subject: MicroPhone & Baud rates.  What can the IIsi do?

I'm going to buy a high-speed modem.  However, I have a IIsi and I use
MicroPhone II.  Lets face it, MP II is "slugish" at best.  Can anyone
tell me what baud rate is totallyh beyond the IIsi with MicroPhone?  That
is, it doesn't make sense to buy a 14,400 baud modem if the computer can
only process 9600 baud.  Right?  Anyone?

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 14:45:29 edt
From: "Maxwell Smart (Soell, Oliver)" <SOELL@DICKINSON.EDU>
Subject: Modula-2 compiler for the Mac?

Does anyone out there know of a shareware Modula-2 compiler for the Mac? I'm
taking a CS course, and we work on a Sun, but I do all my homework from my
room through the vax connection, and the text editor that we use on the Sun
is absolutely unbearable once you've been introduced to Mac-style editing.
(Wow-that was a long sentence!) Anyway, if I could get my hands on a compiler
for my Mac, I could write my programs and debug them from the luxury of my
own Mac instead of the Sun.
	Thanks in advance!
	Oliver Soell (Soell@Dickinson.edu)

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 08:36 EDT
From: toml@nightowl.xrxedds.com (Tom Love)
Subject: moniterm viking monitor support on mac?

i have access to a 19" monochrome display, manufactured by moniterm
inc., now supposedly out of business.  it is a viking 1, approximately
four years old, with a pc-at interface card and old dos software
drivers.

can anyone help me in finding the interface hardware, cable, and
software drivers necessary to make use of this display in a mac
environment, preferably system 7, and preferably nubus (IIci)?  i'd
settle for a mac se interface, or perhaps another (powerbook would be
great but improbable).

i've talked to lapis and they couldn't help.  haven't tried hard to
find out who, if anyone, owns moniterm's inventory.  is there a
surviving company?

i seek pointers to new/used hardware sources, video experts, other
information soources, etc - personal experience would be particularly
appreciated.

i would hate to see this (fairly nice) tube go to waste.

Tom Love        Xerox Engineering Systems  607 Herndon Pkwy, Herndon, VA 22070
703-787-2027   toml@xrxedds.com    ...!uunet!xrxedds!toml   toml:herndon:xerox

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 22:56:39 EDT
From: Kim D Hawksworth <khawkswo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
Subject: New Apple Printer? (Q)

I'm posting this for a friend who doesn't have access to the Internet.

He has heard rumors regarding a new Apple LaserWriter printer.  It supposedly
will use a risc processor and Cannon LBX engine.  He presumes this printer
will replace The Apple II-G and have the potential to do 600 x 600
resolution.

Has anyone seen or heard any info about such a beast?

Kim
<khawkswo@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 14:07:09 +0900
From: mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com (Michael Shaler)
Subject: NeXT-like browser for the Mac (7.x)

Does anybody know of a Finder extension/hack/patch that can show the file
tree in a manner similar to the NeXT's File Browser?  (This is not an
incitement to flame--I wish the NeXT had an outline view and I wish that
the Mac had a browser view...)

E-mail me and I will summarize...

Yoroshiku...

Michael Shaler
Planning and Admin
Tokyo Design Center
Nippon Motorola Ltd.
+813 3280 8245 phone
+813 3440 0033 fax
mshaler@tdocad.sps.mot.com

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 17:37:26 PDT
From: Paul Brians <BRIANS@WSUVM1.CSC.WSU.EDU>
Subject: Noisy Hard Drives International Fan Problem Solved

Geza Bohus solved my problem of the irritatingly loud fan in my
Power Drive 105 (made by Hard Drives International) by recommending
a subsitute fan from Radio Shack: catalog no. 273-244A.  My local store
had it in stock and installed it for me for free (your experience may
vary depending on how friendly your local dealer is--but it should be
a snap for any moderately experienced person). The fan is the same
diameter, but much thinner, and with differently angled blades.  It
costs $20, but it's worth it.  The mounting bolt holes need to be
slightly enlarged to accept the HDI bolts, but it fits fine otherwise.
The guy that installed it commented on the poor design of the vent
in the rear of the case, which he said made an ideal siren.  The fan
itself is very quiet, it's simply the interaction with the case and
the vent opening which causes the noise.  The new fan is thin enough
so that he was able to back if off from the opening a little to
reduce the noise further.  The fan is more efficient than the old one
and moves plenty of air, while being much, much quieter.  The only
catch is that you can't really reuse the old plastic connector which
joins the wires trailing from the fan to the power supply wires--
mine is just soldered.  Be careful, the wire color coding on the
power supply wires is non-standard.  Check before you take your
old fan out to see which wire matches with which on the old fan.

Disclaimer: Hey, it worked for me.  I can't imagine what you did wrong.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 06:22 +0800
From: JFRANKEN@hkucc.hku.hk
Subject: NOT A VIRUS: WORD 4.0/SYSTEM 7/MACIISI PROBLEM

  Two weeks ago I sent a panic message to this net about a sudden
  problem I was having with Word 4.0 files on my System
  7/MacIIsi: some, but not all of them, would unexpectedly close
  up on their own and spawn that wonderful message to the effect
  that "Application 'unknown' has suddenly quit due to an error
  of Type 1".  I immediately suspected a virus or some kind of
  bug in the System 7/Word interaction.  I also reported that
  while MacTools indicated that the health and integrity of my
  hard disk and files were fine, the "Mirrors" program in
  MacTools said that the "Delete Tracking File" (which keeps
  track of deleted files) was corrupt and needed to be replaced.

  I got a lot of responses to my message, and I thank everybody
  who kicked in.  I think it speaks well for the Mac community
  that many people would take the time to write.  I got replies
  from all over the US, and from UK and the Netherlands as well.
  (Although I did NOT get anything from Apple, Microsoft or
  Central Point....).

  The findings:

  1. The problem was NOT a virus.  Nor did any respondent suggest
  that.

  2. Rather, it seems that there was some sort of conflict with
  the "Mirror"/"Delete Tracking File" memory resident utility.
  When I deleted the old "Delete Tracking File" and created a new
  one, the problem I was having went away.  Fortunately, no major
  files were lost or otherwise corrupted.

  3. I am not enough of a systems person to offer a precise
  diagnosis.  Several respondents also mentioned that they had
  similar problems while running other memory-resident utilities
  and extensions, and file compression programs; similarly,
  others suggested I look for conflicts with INITs and CDEVs.
  (And, as readers of this board well know, despite the
  robustness of System 7 and Word, occasionally "undocumented
  features" do show up).  So it looks like something was
  happening that messed with the file allocation/definition
  procedures that go on in the operating system.

  I wonder too how the Delete Tracking file might have been
  fouled up; one can set it to a discrete length to track a
  certain number of deleted files, and I wonder if problems might
  arise if one exceeds that number or discrete file length.  Or
  perhaps during a warm boot or an emergency shutdown when I
  couldn't go through the full Shut Down procedure (which has
  happened maybe twice in the last 18 months) something happened.
  Like most users, I am interested in a general way in how the
  machine works, but I'm more concerned that the machine works
  right when I want to use it, rather than in the fine technical
  details of how the machine operates. (Serious systems
  people/hackers: Do not be offended; without you, there wouldn't
  be Macs and PCs.  It's just that after the Apple II+, things
  got too complicated for me.)

  4. HOWEVER, PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THESE REMARKS AS SLAMMING OR
  DENIGRATING THESE PRODUCTS.  I AM ON BALANCE SATISFIED WITH
  THEM AND WOULD RECOMMEND THEM TO OTHERS.  It's just that, like
  my old Honda, which reliably went well over 100K miles,
  sometimes things needed fixing.

  5. Many respondents made helpful comments about good common
  sense housekeeping: making backups, defragmenting (or
  "optimizing") the hard disk, rebuilding the desk top file,
  increasing memory allocation to Word, making sure one closes
  down using the Finder Shut Down procedure, reinstalling Word
  and/or the System, using a more up-to-date virus list, trashing
  the excess "Temp" files Word creates, not "over-customizing"
  Word, checking INITs.  These remarks are helpful reminders, and
  for them, many thanks.

  6. This is a long message, but given the fact that there do
  seem to be plenty of folks in Macland who have similar, if not
  identical, problems, I thought it might be worth it to make an
  extended answer.  And thanks again to everybody who responded.
  J.F.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 12:07:09 +0000
From: Elliot Bennett <Elliot.Bennett@europa.rs.kp.dlr.de>
Subject: Numeric keypad using PB's Keyboard inquiry...

Date    10/12/92
Subject Numeric keypad using PB's K
From    Elliot Bennett
To      Info- mac

 Subject   Numeric keypad using PB's Keyboard inquiry...
Ok, if I might indulge the net's collective memory (mine seems to be failing
more often than I'd prefer :-) ,

I remember reading somewhere about an extension/control panel that lets you
use the 7-8-9, u-i-o, and j-k-l keys (at least I THINK it was those keys) on a
Powerbook's keyboard as a numeric keypad.  Can anyone point me in the right
direction as to where I can find/buy such a beast? (And if I be mistaken about
its exisitance, anyone care to write this??)  It seems to me that this is
really the most powerful and elegant solution to the lack of a numeric keypad
w/o having to lug an external keypad around.

Much gratitude and thanks in advance,

Elliot Bennett
elliot@europa.rs.kp.dlr.de

P.S.- it would probably be a good idea to reply directly to info-mac since I'm
sure quite a few people could well be interested in such a utility...

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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 00:16:27 GMT
From: hui@rainbow.uchicago.edu (Hui Dong)
Subject: PianoSim 1.0 follow up

Maybe I didn't make it clear in the introduction of the PianoSim I created
for Macintosh. The program requires color QuickDraw to run, but that doesn't
mean you need to have a color monitor. It runs on Mac II series with all
color depth, including B/W (but the graphic is not as good, use 256 color
for best results). It will not run on macs without color QuickDraw
system routines, like Mac Plus, SE, Classic. I will make it run on all
macs in future release if people like the program, and I have time and
settle down a bit. If you have doubt whether it will run on your macs,
give it a try, it will tell you if it won't run and quit without
crashing your Mac. Also, I like to upload both of my programs to CompuServe
GEnine and other sites, but I don't have asscess to these sites. If someone
like to do that for me, please email me. Thanks.
PianoSim can be downloaded from sumex.stanford.edu under
info-mac/sound/program
Have a good time.

hui dong

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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 03:36:14 -0500
From: Charlie.Mingo@p4218.f70.n109.z1.fidonet.org (Charlie Mingo)
Subject: Piracy (C)

Bob Monaghan <VB7R0027@SMUVM1.BITNET> writes:

> The suggestions on hardware based anti-software piracy are unwarranted.
> If all of the mfgers did sit down and come up with a hardware based
> solution, and did force us to buy it, I would be one of the first in
> line to sue them all for collusion, antitrust violations, and related
> violations of the Texas Business & Commerce codes etc.

    Well, perhaps you would also be first to be fined for filing a
frivolous lawsuit.  Copy protection does not violate the "antitrust" laws.
"Collusion," by itself, is not a very meaningful term.  Collusion to do
WHAT?

    To show an antitrust violation, you'd have to show they agreed not to
compete (eg, on price).  Simply adding copy protection does not indicate
a failure to compete.  In order to show an antitrust violation, you'd
ultimately have to show an effect on price.  Copy protection is likely
to bring price DOWN, by replacing pirated copies with genuine ones,
and so increasing sales.

    Are you going to sue Apple for putting the Bozo bit in the
pre-System 7 Finder?  Are you going to sue the Japanese manufacturers
of DAT tape decks for inventing SCMS copy protection?

    I don't think you can apply Texas "Business & Commerce" law to
manufacturers located outside the state, who are selling into the stream
of interstate commerce.  Texas courts would lack jurisdiction.

> Hardware protection schemes such as were recommended in the
> Info-Mac of 8 Oct. 1992 Piracy article were tried on the PC.  Many
> just didn't work on most systems, some crashed systems intermittently,
> and others actively destroyed data on hard-drives to the point where
> hardware protection schemes, and copy protection in particular, got
> such a bad name that not even the dweebs would buy such software or
> hardware.

    Perhaps you haven't heard about the "dongles" which attach to the
ABD port?  They contain a ROM with some secret code, and the application
looks for the ROM code before it will run.  Since this does not violate
any Inside Macintosh guidelines, none of the drastic consequences you
allude to are possible.

> Some users, reading about software profit levels running 25% of sales ...
> might also question who are the real pirates in this scenario,
> especially when industry hardware profits are running 3-5%.  The
> real solution to piracy is to put out a quality product with
> appropriate support at a fair price.

    If you don't like the price, don't buy it.  You think it's OK to
steal something you feel is overpriced?  Is it any better to steal a
Cadillac than an Escort?

    People who want to steal will steal (it's ALWAYS cheaper than buying).
People who are honest will either not take or will pay.



------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 01:15:56 PDT
From: Les Ferch <ferch@ucs.ubc.ca>
Subject: PLW LS 7.2 (C)

>So if you need the new driver (which is now 7 months old) you can:

> 1) Buy a new LS
> 2) Buy System 7.1 on or after Oct.19
> 3) Wait for it to appear (maybe) on ftp.apple.com
> 4) Try to find a BBS that has the "BBS in a Box" CD on line.

Or find someone who recently got a new LS, copy the disks, and install
them on your Mac. I really don't think Apple will have a problem with
this.

------------------------------

Date: Monday, 12 Oct 1992 11:44:48 EDT
From: "Jeffrey N. Fritz" <JFRITZ%WVNVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: Printing From TN3270

This maybe a FAQ, although I don't remember seeing it.  Is there something
special that needs to be done in order to print from TN3270?  If I try to
print directly to either a LaserWriter or Imagewriter, I get garbage
characters (although the format looks okay).  If I copy and paste to
a word processing program (MS Word or even TeachText) and print from
there, everything is fine.

Can anyone enlighten me as to what I'm doing wrong?


Jeff Fritz
West Virginia University
jfritz@wvnvm.wvnet.edu

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 19:06 EDT
From: CHRIS TANSKI <CAPTANSKI33%SNYCORVA.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: RPI Program

I am looking for a program that supports the Rockwell Protocol Interface for
v.42bis modems. I have a Zoom 2400 baud modem and want to utilize v.42 and
speed it up to 9600 however I need software that supports RPI. And ideas of
an FTP site that has this? Thanks.

Chris Tanski

Please reply directly to captanski33@snycorva.bitnet

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 17:24:19 -0500
From: chai@cs.uiuc.edu
Subject: Should I upgrade Excel or go to some other spreadsheet?

I am registered for 1.0, but had been using subsequent versions belonging to
K.U. Now that I'm at UIUC I need to buy myself a decent spreadsheet... not
sure if I should upgrade my old copy of Excel or go with someone else.

I don't really need super-dooper capabilities -- in fact the old Excel 1.0
would be fine if it wouldn't crash my IIx running 32bits & Sys7 8-)

I just use it to add columns of figures, and balance my checkbook.

Maybe I should write a hypercard stack to do it instead?

Suggestions email chai@cs.uiuc.edu welcome.

Thanks,

Ian

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Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 22:05:32 -0700
From: leonardr@netcom.com (Leonard Rosenthol)
Subject: StuffIt Lite 3.0.2 (C)

>I noticed that Aladdin's Leonard Rosenthol posted the 3.0.2 updater for
>Stuffit Deluxe the other day. Where, Good Aladdin Folk, is the updater
>or the replacement for Stuffit Lite?
>
	We have it, but it got "lost" in the shuffle.  After building
StuffIt Lite 3.0.2 & the updater for it, we came to the realization that
we were only about a week or two away (or so we thought) from a more
improved update, 3.0.3.  Therefore, we choose to hold off on Lite - we made
a mistake!!
	However, StuffIt Lite (and Deluxe) 3.0.3 is right around the corner
and offers some nice new features as well as bug fixes.

>I'd seen two fruity things related to my Stuffit Lite. It just pretended
>to create an AppleLink package. That was one. That didn't bother me much.
>
	That's a known bug which is fixed in 3.0.3.

>Is the shareware version of Stuffit an unwanted stepchild?
>
	NOT AT ALL!!!  As long as StuffIt is a product, Aladdin will
continue to support both a commercial and shareware product.  Shareware has
been quite good to us and we believe that it is an important "institution"
and we hope to help it live for a long time.

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 16:19:58 PST
From: "Maurice M. McNeil" <mmcneil@BBN.COM>
Subject: Subject: group scheduling (A)

>Anyone know if the program NOW-UP TO DATE have the features I am looking
>for?

Gary, I am running NOW UP TO DATE and I think it will do what you need.
You have both private and public calendars and multiple versions of
each. You select which calendars an event is kept on. I use it from home
to keep my calendar at work up to date through ARA. According to the
documentation it is designed for work groups. You might buy a couple of
copies and try it out. You need one copy for each user.
 -------
Thanks
-----^-----
    0-0     Maurice "Mike" McNeil, BBN San Diego
    (_)+    (619) 224-3240    "mmcneil@bbn.com"

------------------------------

Date: Fri, 9 Oct 92 22:39:26 EDT
From: Shaw Bernard Wu <swu@future.stern.nyu.edu>
Subject: Supra v.32 and v.32bis (c)

>Could anyone tell me about Supra Fax modems?  I'm thinking of buying the
>Supra Fax v.32, that's the 9600 baud model.  I would appreciate any info
>anyone has.

I've used the SupraFAX v.32bis for over a month now and I'm quite
satisfied with it.

There is little price difference between the v.32 and v.32bis, I think.
The v.32bis provides 14.4k connections versus the 9.6k of the v.32. I've
been spoiled by the 14.4k and the modem seems really SLOW whenever I get
shifted down to 12.0k ;-)

Make you sure you get a "hardware handshaking cable". I bought the stand-
alone version and so I had to purchase a cable from MacConnection.
I heard from a few people that the hardware handshaking cable provided
by Supra for the v.32bis in the "complete" package isn't that good,
especially with 14.4k connections w/ v.42bis and MNP-5 for as high as
57.6k throughput.

The SupraFAX v.32bis is a very nice modem...and according to a recent
issue of MacUser, it is probably one of the best modems overall on the
market behind the UDS Motorola even though it's the cheapest and thus
provides best bang for the buck.

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 13:19:30 EDT
From: Jon Butler <JBUTLER@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu>
Subject: Sys7/Constantly reinitializing LaserWriter

We have a LaserWriter IINT hooked to Yale's Appletalk network so we can
print to it with three office computers, two original Classics and one
older SE.  All the computers are on System7 and have the same LaserWriter
drivers.  Since we switched the machines to Sys7, we have had a persistent
problem with a constantly reinitializing printer.  Each time a different
one of the computers prints, the printer reinitializes, causing a tedious
delay in executing the printing job.  We have had the Appletalk specialists
check the machines to make sure we had the same printer drivers and that
produced no change (the machines do have the same drivers).  The only
"solution" offered was an observation that someone else on the network
who is NOT on Sys7 is "selecting" our printer in-between our own use and
thereby causing the printer to reinitialize when we use it.  However, this
seems unlikely, since no pages have ever suddenly come out of our printer
>From such "foreigners."

Does anyone know why our printer constantly reinitializes?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Jon Butler
JBUTLER@YALEVM

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 09:42:53 -0500
From: ifaq570@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Allen Kitchen)
Subject: TrueType Fonts... how to use?

	Hello netland,
	I have seen numerous different fonts available for the mac.
They all seem to be TrueType fonts, and I can't seem to be able to install
them.
	What do I need to do in order to expand my selection of fonts, and
will they improve my printing resolution as well?  I have a MacSE with
2.5/40 meg and I am running Word 4 as well as some other programs.

Allen Kitchen
ifaq570@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 17:48:16 ITA
From: maurizio lana <LANA%ITOCSIVM.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>
Subject: tt-converter-13.sit and Stuffit

I got from sumex-aim the file tt-converter-13.hqx. I successfully debinhexed
it
 with Stuffit Classic 1.6 I got from a friend; but when it comes to uncompress
it, Stuffit classic 1.6 says that the file was compressed with an unknown
metho
d. Is this because I must use a more recent version of stuffit?
Thank you. Maurizio

MAURIZIO LANA | E-MAIL: LANA@ITOCSIVM.BITNET  | phone & fax 39-11-837262
CISI - Universita' di Torino - V. S. Ottavio 20 - 10124 Torino Italy

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 11:28:42 EDT
From: instone@bullwinkle.bgsu.edu (Keith Instone)
Subject: Using QTime in Hypercard - comp.sys.mac.hypercard #11568

In article <Bw0KoC.Gr2@andy.bgsu.edu>, instone@bullwinkle.bgsu.edu (Keith
Instone) writes:
|> In article <1992Oct11.202648.7848@massey.ac.nz>, news@massey.ac.nz (USENET
News System) writes:
|> |>
|> |> I don't know about the Apple/Claris QT XCMD set, but this is fairly easy
|> |> with Pictoids. The Pictoid Package is available on sumex, umich etc. It
|> |> also provides more than the Apple/Claris set. Free to most academics,
see
|> |> license in package.
|> |>
|>
|> sumex no longer has the pictoids pacakge, just the update stack to 1.1. I
was able to
|> grab the 1.0 files from the mirror site uhunix2.uhcc.hawaii.edu. 4 other
mirror sites
|> claimed to have the 1.0 stacks (via archie) but they were not really
there.
|>
|> Perhaps this is an oversight by the sumex people, who thought the 1.1
update REPLACED
|> the 1.0 stacks? Or else they ran out of space.
|>
|> --
|> Keith instone @ (hydra bullwinkle andy) .bgsu.edu
|>

Just thought I'd let you know that I was looking for the pictoids 1.0 stacks
but
it wasn't on sumex. I found them eventually.

--
Keith instone @ (hydra bullwinkle andy) .bgsu.edu

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 11:03:20 CDT
From: griffeyd@uwwvax.uww.edu
Subject: Which Works Weelie Works (?)

Dear Info-mac Participants:

I have gotten so much good work done using Microsoft Works over the last
five years that it has become the universal tool that I turn to when
I don't have a piece of specialized software that does what is needed.
I am particularly fond of using it for terminal emulation.  The only
hitch in this (as far as my needs go) is that it doesn't have a good
file transfer protocol installed.

The Question:  Has anyone out there used the new Microsoft Works, which
reportedly has a Kermit tool installed?  Can anyone compare it to
Claris Works, which seems to be the hands down choice for most applications
since it is so well integrated?  Any information/suggestions about
these two programs would be appreciated.

Seems like the communications module is never discussed when reviews are
done of the integrated software programs  :-(.

Thanks for your help/opinions/information.

Dave Griffey  <GRIFFEYD@UWWVAX.UWW.EDU>
University of Wisconsin-Whitewater

------------------------------

Date: 10 Oct 92 07:40:07 GMT
From: ferch@ucs.ubc.ca (Les Ferch)
Subject: win 3.1 v. System 7

Although there are a lot of arguments that can (and have been) made on
this subject, I personally will never like Windows much until they get rid
of those bloody .INI files chalk full of HARD CODED directory paths. Talk
about stupid design! If I install a Windows program on a server, it's a
MAJOR PAIN to relocate it to a different drive or directory! On the
breakability scale, it's balsa-wood!

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 14:35:07 CDT
From: peterc@cubetech.com (Peter Creath)
Subject: Word 5.1/Word 6.0

> If you read MacWEEK, there was an article in the issue from last week
> about Word 5.1 being due for release around Nov.  The information on Word
> 6 is that it is going to be a ground up rewrite.

>From what I understand, it will be a ground-up port of the P-code
used in the Windows version of Word 2.0 (or maybe it'll be 3.0 at
that time, and 3.0 will be a ground-up rewrite).  For people who
wonder WHY Word is rather slow, or doesn't use MENU resources like
other (normal) applications, here's why:

To maintain portability and ease of maintenance, they wrote Word in
P-code (a term I heard in comp.sys.mac.programmer -- don't ask me
what it stands for), which is an intermediate code form, somewhere
between source code and object code.  They then wrote a P-code interpreter
for Windows and for Mac.

	The two products aren't identical just yet,
but if I'm not mistaken, Word 6.0 (for Mac) will have 80% common code
with Word for Windows.  That's why they're waiting to release WordBasic
until 6.0.  Why develop an independant version for the interim?

------------------------------

Date: Mon, 12 Oct 92 15:49:30 EDT
From: Alex.Sirota@um.cc.umich.edu
Subject: word finder and Word 5 (Q)

All right. I know it has been asked before but does Word Finder bundled
with Word 4 work with Word 5 under SYstem 6 or 7. I am running it under
System 6.0.8 and when I seelct a word and pull up WF the word is NOT
looked up. I must type it in to have it looked up. Can I do anything
about this?

Alex
alex.sirota@umich.edu

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Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 13:08:53 CDT
From: Reverend John <UC521832@MIZZOU1.missouri.edu>
Subject: Zterm question

I recently hooked up my modem to try out America On-Line. At the same
time, I FTP'ed the latest version of Zterm from Sumex. It works well for
dialing the university's mainframe, with one exception. On our system
(an IBM 3270 I believe) you often need to hit CLEAR when the status
bar says MORE... or HOLDING. I have been unable to find the equivalent
CLEAR key on Zterm's VT100 emulation. The obvious choice (CLEAR)
doesn't work; that's the PF1 key on my keypad.

I'm using the Apple Dink-o-Rama keyboard that comes with the LC,
Classic, etc.

I've checked Zterm's doc files and didn't spot it, though I may well
be blind. It didn't transer to WriteNow from Word (or whatever) very
cleanly...

Rev

------------------------------

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 21:40:01 MST
From: Nevin Savage <ATNWS%ASUACAD.BITNET@Forsythe.Stanford.EDU>

Subject: MacScheme Support (A)
A friend who has no direct access to the net supplies the following:
MacScheme is written and supported by LightShip SoftWare, Inc. which can
be reached at 1-415-694-7799. There is a fairly recent new version, 4.0,
which is dated 7-19-92. It appears to run properly on a Quadra 700.
LightShip does not do direct marketing but this is handled by Academic
Computing Specialists in Salt Lake City. They can be reached at
1-800-531-3227. The upgrade to v 4.0 requires the old disc and about $40.

------------------------------

Date: Sun, 11 Oct 92 09:38:44 +0100
From: Jacob Palme SKHB  <jpalme@heron.dafa.se>

Two months ago, I sent out a query for information about
software which makes it possible to write portable C programs
where you do not have to rewrite the graphic interface parts to
compile the software for Macintosh, MS-Windows, X-Windows,
Motif, Open Look etc.

Here is a summary of the replies I got to my query:

Software        Supported               Other
name            environments            information
 -------------------------------------------------------------
XVT             Macintosh               One user claimed there were
		MS Windows              bugs in it, and it did not
		Various Unix            cover all you need, but still
					did not recommend against it.

Neuron          Macintosh               Very expensive. Run time license
Open            MS Windows              required for every single user
Interface       Various Unix            of the software you develop.
					Has a graphic editor in which
					you can define your screen and
					then compile them. Good
					reputation.

Symantec        Macintosh               Uses C++. Not released yet.
Bedrock MS Windows

Aspect          I have no more info

Tigre           I have no more info
Programming
Environment

Suit                                    Public Domain?

Universal       Macintosh
Component       MS Windows
System (UCS) (Unix coming)

Wndx            Windows, DOS,           Does not use existing screen
		Motif (Macintosh        handling functions in the goal
		coming)                 environments, because of this
					code will be much larger.

Suppliers:

XVT: XVT Software Inc, Box 18750, Boulder, Co 80308

Neuron Open Interface: Neuron Data, 156 University Ave., Palo
Alto, Ca 94301

Aspect: Open Inc.

Tigre Programming Environment: Tigre Object Systems Inc.

SUIT: University of Virginia (Randy Pausch)

Universal Component System (UCS): Software Transformation Inc.,
1601 Saratoga-Sunnyvale Road, Suite 100, Cupertino, CA 95014.

Wndx: The Wndx Corp, 1550 Eight St. SW, Suite 305, Calgary,
Alberta, Canada T2R 1K1.

Someone referred me to an artickel "Code on the move" in Byte,
July 1992. However, only one of the packages, XVT, described in
that paper supports Macintosh, and one, Wndx, is going to get a
Macintosh interface (may have it now). Therefore I do not quote
any info from the Byte article on packages which do not support
Macintosh.

If someone has more information, especially about the software
which I have very little information about (see above), please
write to me, I will then summarise once more to the lists.

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