HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: peterson@choctaw.csc.ti.com (Bob Peterson)
Subject: Re: poor transfer rates in Dos Waffle
Reply-To: peterson@csc.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 12:40:37 GMT

In article <3Zw3RB2w165w@somenode.uucp>, a-dent@somenode.uucp (Bryan Hannahs) writes:
|> peterson@ZGNews.LoneStar.Org (Bob Peterson) writes:
|> 
|> >   I just started talking to another Waffle 1.65 running on a fast 386
|> > under Desqview-386, X00 FOSSIL locked at 19,200 bps, 7 packet window,
|> > transferring news packets, and see log entries like these.
|> > 
|> > 27-Sep-92  19:40 19:44  bluecafe   | 4226 sent   38 rcvd  0 errs 1474 cps
|> > 02-Oct-92  04:09 04:13  bluecafe   | 5035 sent   38 rcvd  0 errs 1482 cps
|> > 02-Oct-92  17:12 17:13  bluecafe   | 1097 sent    9 rcvd  0 errs 1467 cps
	...
|> You didn't say what modem the other end is using.

  The other end is also a USR HST DS with V.32bis.  Talking to a
QX/V.32c (V.32 but not V.32bis) I usually see just over 1000 cps, e.g., 


...(10/6-6:58:47) ... [cua0] -> 175794 / 170.369 secs, 1031 bytes/sec
...(10/6-7:07:59) ... [cua0] -> 569815 / 551.197 secs, 1033 bytes/sec
...(10/6-7:13:11) ... [cua0] -> 321295 / 310.830 secs, 1033 bytes/sec
...(10/6-7:19:54) ... [cua0] -> 414959 / 401.829 secs, 1032 bytes/sec
...(10/6-7:22:51) ... [cua0] -> 181830 / 175.917 secs, 1033 bytes/sec

  These happened to be GIF files of the following sizes.

-rwxrwxr-x  1 peterson   175794 Oct  6 06:47 Dolphins.gif
-rwxrwxr-x  1 peterson   569815 Oct  6 06:48 Eilean_Donan.gif
-rw-rw-r--  1 peterson   321295 Oct  6 06:48 Plockton.gif
-rw-rw-r--  1 peterson   414959 Oct  6 06:48 Tantallon_Castle.gif

|> Bryan Hannahs      |   a-dent@somenode.uucp    a-dent@bluemoon.use.com
|> (aka Arthur Dent)  |               bryan@bluemoon.use.com

    Bob
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From: fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: UDFB 1.0
Date: 3 Oct 92 22:06:15 GMT
Organization: Penn State Computer Science

In article <w492RB1w165w@micromed.com> system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:
|You could have saved yourself some time. I wrote and released a program
|that does exactly the same thing over a month ago.

And then, of course, there's the perl scripts that I posted to alt.bbs.waffle
last year, and the usenet-file updator that added group descriptions
automagically, so you can get things like

(public) 5:53p (891 left) (?=help) : comp.dcom.modems

comp.dcom.modems (messages from 16475 to 16575)
Data communications hardware and software. 

(comp.dcom.modems) 5:54p (891 left) (?=help) : echo %B
Data communications hardware and software. 
(comp.dcom.modems) 5:54p (890 left) (?=help) : 

I can repost or make the scripts available via mail-server if anyone is
interested.

  Bill
From: gordon@pinetree.org (Gordon Dewis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:46:10 GMT
Organization: Gordon's Pinetree * Ottawa, Ontario, Canada

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> Man, is this extraordinarily bogus, or what!?  I never would have thought
> about such existing, until I actually saw a user get logged off with:
> 
> 12825 19.2k slim     leonard <0>                 5:46p   5:48p   MON 256  SiN
>                                                                           ^^^
> Now, I'd never seen THIS before.  I'm thinking "what is this, some way of
> forcing a logout if the user says something bad?  So, I looked in the docs,
> and found this in user.doc, line 731:       ^^^
> 
> 		SiN	user took 255 turns (far too many)
> 
> Here's another question for you:  how did this user manage to have 256 "turns
> in only two minutes?

Sounds like a good dose of line noise.  I've seen this happen before.  
Everytime a CR comes across, another turn is taken.

C'est la vie.

  --G

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,comp.os.msdos.misc
From: steven@unipalm.co.uk (Steven Vincent)
Subject: Re: Pathological subdirectory read/create/delete time under DOS 5.0?
Organization: Unipalm Ltd., 216 Cambridge Science Park, Cambridge CB4 4WA, UK
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:39:53 GMT

system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:

>fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:
>> I recently moved up to 5.0, and formatted the disk in question with 2K
>> allocation units.  The problem has gotten about an order of magnitude worse.
>> With 1,300 files in a directory, it takes about 25 seconds to list it all,
>> and about 8 seconds to add or remove an entry from the directory.  My expire
>> runs went from a half an hour to 2 or 3 hours.

>I ran into the same problem with my network server when I switched. An
>associate told my it was because of the way DOS 5 accesses the drive.
>I solved the problem by installing HyperDisk. It's the best HD cache I've
>found and it's also shareware.

One problem here is DOS buffers. Each one holds 16 directory entries, 
if the number of files in a directory exceeds 16*buffers then DOS starts
to thrash doing file name lookups on the directory structure. Since each
large file may need more than one directory entry to list all of its
allocation units making the allocation size smaller makes this problem
worse.

Steven Vincent
From: system@micromed.com (Duane Davis)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Confused news-message pointer (all messages always new)
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 01:57:14 PDT
Organization: Micro-Medic BBS - +1 408 279 5240 - Public Access

mvdl@et.tudelft.nl writes:
> Why does our waffle think each time I enter a certain newsgroup, ALL messages
> are new, even when no new messages have arrived ???

The only time Waffle will keep track of the last message number read is if
the newsgroup is in your JOIN file. JOIN the newsgroup and your problem
should go away.



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From: a-dent@somenode.uucp (Bryan Hannahs)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 13:27:20 EDT
Organization: .sdrawkcaB sgnihT gnipyT roF yteicoS ehT

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> fenner@postscript.cs.psu.edu (Bill Fenner) writes:
> 
> > In article <Nu7TRB1w165w@willard.UUCP> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
> > |Now, there's only five occurences of the word "turns" in all the documenta
> > |Maybe we could have an actual definition of "turn."
> > 
> > "command at the main prompt", I believe.
> > 
> > |It seems that there is some additional work to be done in order to get
> > |Waffle to be more robust in handling dropped carrier...
> > 
> > What kind of modem do you have?  Does its CD light go out when the user han
> > up?  I have never once had this problem, with the several various modems I'
> > used on hogbbs, in over 2 years.  (Current modem: ZyXEL U-1496E, and loving
> > *plug*plug*plug* :-)
> > 
> > This is almost definitely your modem's problem.  Waffle can't be expected t
> > detect that someone hung up if the modem doesn't tell it...
> > 
> >   Bill
> 
> I've seen the above reported problem on two different modems, a Digitan
> 2400 bps, and my current modem, a Telebit T2500SA.  It does not happen
> often, and I don't recall seeing it since installing the "release" copy
> of 1.65, but I'm fairly certain I saw it with one of the late beta's...
> Certainly, I don't have a problem with this often enough to get complaints.
> 
> Perhaps the reason you never have had this problem relates to a different
> level of user responsibility?  Perhaps your users always disable their
> call waiting notification before dialing your system...  I dunno.

I've tried at least 3 different modems and never had this problem. And
the people that call me CAN'T disable their call waiting (ain't old
phone systems wonderful?). They have gotten cut off, and as soon as the
modems drop carrier, Waffle resets. Maybe you should try running a term
program while someone gets cut off by call waiting and see when the
carrier actually drops.

---
"Man created God in his own image." - Lazarus Long

Bryan Hannahs      |   a-dent@somenode.uucp    a-dent@bluemoon.use.com
(aka Arthur Dent)  |               bryan@bluemoon.use.com
From: bugs@bunny.novalis.public.sub.org (bugs b. bunny)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: addendum to my prev. msg.
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 18:43:39 GMT
Organization: chaos-anarchy-fun-guerilleros

..I would also appreciate kinda (perl-)script to convert waffle's
news to..say an appropriate record that may be handeled by a
DBASE batch?! I'm sooooo lazy. 8-)))

        Bibi, Uwe.

-->            bugs@bunny.novalis.public.sub.org            <--
-->             ..pet-bunny '60 to '91 (and still crunchy)  <--
From: rider@geloser.login.qc.ca (Serge Ayotte)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: multi tasking- offhook
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 22:21:59 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Gentleman Loser System, Montreal/Qc/Cdn

Hiya folks!

LEt's get on with the most often ask trouble, but I have a twist to
mine..

I know about the offhook parameter in the STATIC file for when login in
locally using the 'S' key for getting your modem to get on the line so
it's buzy.
The trouble I have is that EVEN with a M0 to turn the modem speaker off
(I tried both ATH1 M0 and ATM0 H1 and with a ^M mixed in) when you get
that LOUD alarm that your line is off the hook, my speaker plays it?

Anyone have a workaround since using the F2 keys doesn't offhook'ed?


Secondly, I was wondering if anyone that are running Waffle under some
multitasking prg, have any hints or don't do'es.
Specifically, I run OS/2 2.0 and I have set up a little batch that
calles the LOGIN.BAT, Would there be any trouble if for example I'm
reading my news and then one of my feeders calls me, sends a batch and
Waffle start decompressing them WHILE i'm reading??


Thanks in advance for your insights and help.
See You around the 'Net!!

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From: elrond@freeside.com (SysAdmin)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Shroom and Waffle
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 07:53:16 CDT
Organization: Rivendell BBS / Hou, TX. / +1 713 941 2236

system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:

> 
> I recently started using shroom to give myself a bit more space when
> shelling out of Waffle. 
> 
> The problem I've run into is when my new user batch file starts up, or
> if I shell from remote the last thing that's seen is Shroom's swap message.
> Then nothing. The system isn't locked up, just no i/o to the modem.
> 
> I'm using the following command line:
> 
>     shroom -p -s D:\ WAFFLE %1
> 
> Anyone else run into this? 

I have, I've assumed that SHROOM is swapping the code that does the I/O
redirection out of memory,  I'm currently having shroom swap to disk, although
I've got plenty of memory to make and use a ramdisk if needed, I haven't tried
this with a ramdisk, has anyone else here gotten "SHROOMed" applications to
work remotely?  (That use the waffle I/O redirection, not their own serial
writes.)

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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Extern files spec, /dir option
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 18:19:26 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> Could someone with experience in writing /waffle/extern/command files offer
> me little advice?  I'm trying to integrate some MKS toolkit stuff into Waffle
> and I'd like to be able to include the rm command, as well as some others.
> I don't want my users to be able to be able to delete any files other than
> files in their own directories.  So, the /dir option, as described in the
> /waffle/docs/extern.doc file,seemed like the obvious problem-solver:
>
> 	  /dir	Specify a directory to change to before
> 		executing the command. Useful if commands must
> 		be executed in a specific directory. The
> 		previous directory is not restored on return.
> 
> However, nothing I've tried seems to work.  At no time does my "ls" command
> first change directory to that specified in my /waffle/extern/ls file.
> I've tried just about every combination I can imagine, e.g.,
> 
> ls /access=3 /dir="c:/user/%A" /command="c:/mks/bin/ls %i"
> ls /access=3 /dir="c:\user\%A" /command="c:/mks/bin/ls %i"
> ls /access=3 /dir="c:/user/test" /command="c:/mks/bin/ls %i"
> ls /access=3 /dir="c:\user\test" /command="c:/mks/bin/ls %i"
> 
> Where am I missing the boat???  The ls command executes OK, it's just that
> the directory remains UNCHANGED.

Be careful with this. Although you may want to restrict a user to
his/her own directory, suppose that %i parm receives a pathname. And,
that may be your problem. Try /command="c:/mks/bin/ls d:/user/%A" for
a full directory listing. Using %i may provide a security hole.

--
Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: prisoner@village.freeside.com (The Prisoner)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Mail piping
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:09:43 GMT
Organization: The Village

bobk@dogear.spk.wa.us (Bob Kirkpatrick) writes:

> prisoner@village.freeside.com (The Prisoner) writes:
> 
> > 
> >   Is there any way to pipe mail from one mailbox to another (or external de
> > *AND* leave it in the original mailbox?  We have tried everything we can th
> > of but the original gets erased (actualy it just bypasses the original box)
> > 
> 
> Offhand, the only way that I can think of is via an alias which feeds a
> list:
> 
> mailacct           + \waffle\system\mailout.lst
> 
> /waffle/system/mailout.lst:
> account1
> account2
> account3
> ...
> 

But, The problem is with the alias comand... when you alias it totaly bypasses
the original account (or so it looks like) and if i set up that list and send
the mail to the same acount i will get a loop.  Maybe the next ver. will let this
type of thinhg work.   thanks though!

  prisoner
From: dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz (dogbowl)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: wafmail configuration
Summary: It can't find messages....
Keywords: help!
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 02:38:43 Y
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)


OK. First up, I know that this must have been discussed in the past.

I've been trying to set up WAFMAIL 1.0, and have run into a few
problems. Most have been solvable ( Like the "for %d in (%1) do del %d"
mistake, for instance), but I have run into one that I can't fathom.

For some reason, when wafmail is scanning the groups, it won't find any
new messages in them. ( ie, it reports the last read message OK, but
says no new messages, when I know that's bullsh*t )

I have my news spread across 5 drives, separate from the the drive
containing waffle and the files area.

It looks to me like it isn't even accessing the news drives.

Any ideas??



dogbowl at The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)
dogbowl@dogbox.acme.gen.nz

Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: Local board being batched and feed to usenet
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 14:12:29 GMT

topcat!tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht) writes:

>Now, can you explain the sematics of /type=LOCAL and why it doesn't seem to
>control this behavior?  The documentation (forum.doc, page 4) describing
>/type= strongly suggests that it's used to configure groups local to
>Waffle, i.e., not destined for Usenet.

If you're sending the group out to other sites, it isn't local,
it's usenet.

But then again, I've never pretended to understand document
writer's sense of humor. :)
From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle and PC Pursuit
Date: 3 Oct 92 13:44:49 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

adrian@spectrx.saigon.com (Seth Adrian) writes:

> Is it possible to make UUCP callouts with PC Pursuit?
> My system is in Santa Cruz county, but most news 
> connections are over the hill in Santa Clara county,
> a long distance call.  I'd tried to PC Pursuit with
> Coherent UUCP in the past, but with no luck.  Anyone
> had luck doing this with Waffle?  (MS-DOS version)
> 
> --
> adrian@spectrx.saigon.com (Seth Adrian)
> SPECTROX SYSTEMS +1.408.252.1005  Silicon Valley, Ca

You really need a different UUCP protocol, like t or f (I forget which)
to do UUCP over packetized networks that are not necessarily 8-bit clear.
Unfortunately, all the MS-DOS uucico packages with which I'm familiar
only support the g protocol.  This is unfortunate.  It would be really
nice if some ambitious person would undertake a port of Taylor UUCP to
MS-DOS!  No one seems to have completed this, though Ian Taylor says that
several persons have made noises about doing it...

-- 
dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
From: jkilday@nlbbs.UUCP (Jack Kilday)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Local board being batched and feed to usenet
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 11:19:46 EDT
Organization: The Northern Lights BBS, Portland, ME  * 207-761-4782 *

Ralph Sims <ralphs@remote.halcyon.com> writes:

> topcat!tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht) writes:
> 
> > When mail comes in destined for foo, it gets posted OK, but for some reason
> > it also gets batched up for feed to my local usenet host.  Anyone know why?
> 
> Let's take a look at your feeds file.  If you have a * in there,
> the stuff will go back out.  You can get around this by using
> !localgroup * in the feeds file, or by using something like:
> 
> site /batch=comp16 comp,alt,rec,sci,soc,news

I am having a similar problem when " ... | post foonews" is encountered
for an ALIASES entry.  Despite foonews having been marked as local, any
postings are going out to my Usenet host site.  I tried the second 
solution:
site /batch=compress !localgroup *
but to no avail.  Did I screw up the syntax?
 
I'd rather not consider the first suggested solution of explicitly 
naming the group hierarchies to include (i.e.,  /batch=compress comp,alt,
rec,sci,soc,news).  

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From: markr@sound.cts.com (Mark B. Reinhold)
Newsgroups: sdnet.waffle,comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: COLORS!
Keywords: Colors
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 19:09:42 PDT
Organization: SDCT 1-619-461-3415

olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz (Wayne Hoyle) writes:
> Well I just tested mine and they work fine as well but only for the lenght
> of the text on the line 
>  
> In other words the screen background remains BLACK but the message
> foreground and background is as per the COLOR parameter 
> 
> How do I change the background colour ?

I have that problem, but as soon as I get a full mail or message then
the whole background stay green. This is not perfect but I am happy with
it.
From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Command-line RNEWS / TRUNCATED BATCH
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 92 12:03:49 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

rat@ruth.UUCP writes :

>I don't know what you're doing with your program, but mine does NOT
>generate '#!rnews' headers.... I pass DOS text files to rnews in bunches
>(rnews *.nws).  Most telling is: when I was writing DOS text files with
>CRLF, I got truncated batches.  When I wrote text files with LF instead
>of CRLF, no more truncated batches.  That seems to be the case in what
>happened to you - you added one character (CR) for each line in the
>text file and it worked.  That is NOT contrary to what I said....
>at least I hope not.

Yeah, that is the case in what is happening with me. What I'm doing is
batching up articles in rnews format for off-line reading. Therefore,
I need to "#! rnews" headers. But, for reply articles your approach is
a better way.

>(Durned Iowan.  Musta been in the fields too long.  :-)  From a neighbor
>in the Badger State - Wisconsin - MOOOO!)

Trade ya an ear of corn and basket of soy beans for three gallons of
milk :)

--
Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Why I Hate SHARE
Date: 30 Sep 92 10:49:20 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: comp.bbs.waffle
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, ON (613) 547-5066
Content-Type: text

revc@Garg.Campbell.CA.US (Bob Van Cleef) writes:

> Every now and then, I'll be a good boy, and install SHARE. After all, I
> am running Waffle under Windows 3.1, and someone could be logged in 
> at the same time as I am in another window. That sort of makes sense.
> 
> However, if I happen to be looking at the STATIC file at the same time
> Waffle needs to look at it, all Hell breaks loose.
> 
> SHARE cannot differentiate between r/w and r/o access.

I wrote a LAN application and I kept having problems when more than one
person wanted to run the application at the same time (horrors!) and
all I had to do was use a program to set the executables attributes to
'Read-Only' and SHARE was quite happy sharing them.

Theoretically you could set all your Waffle config files, binaries, etc.
to r/o and those kinds of problems would disappear.  HOWEVER this would
not solve all your problems, for instance what if you are sneaking a
peek at another users mail message and that same user goes to try to
read it?  :^)  I'M KIDDING!

> SHARE bypasses windows and will not allow you to pause the complaining
> process long enough to fix the problem. Your only alternative is to
> send errors to the trapped process, or abort it.

Actually SHARE does a good job.  It is the critical error handler that
could use replacing.  I believe I've seen one out there that simply waits
a few more seconds before trying again.

> Needless to say, SHARE has been disabled again....

I don't know the consequences of having SHARE disabled but in my LAN
application you can rest assured SHARE is turned *on*.

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