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From: mk@bigfoot.first.gmd.de (Matthias Kessler)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Polished Frame
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:52:10 GMT
Organization: GMD-FIRST, D-1000 Berlin 12, Germany (West)

In article <92098.091920NCHEEK@ESOC.BITNET> NCHEEK@ESOC.BITNET writes:
>I'm thinking about having my Cannondale MTB stripped and polished.
>But I'm unsure as to whether I also need to get it coated with
>clear laquer/varnish or not. People have said that just ordinary
.....
>Could anyone with a polished frame or experience of polished frames
>help me out...???

A friend of mine has stripped his SM800 'dale frame six months ago.
He polished it like hell and today it looks the same as then. I own
an older alu frame form a german company called 'Framework'. This one
was build with very thick and heavy alu tubes. Two weeks ago I've got
it sandblasted and it looks like it is made of grey velvet, very nice!
But don't sandblast thin alu frames like 'dales, the sandblasting takes
off too much of the material!

Marin and GT have some alu frames that are only polished, no clear 
coat on them, so there's a hint that corrosion is not an issue on 
such frames.

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From: kab33254@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hard Harry )
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Vetta 20 cyclocomputer
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:37:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: ux1.1992Apr16.003752.20917
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

ileung@ee.ubc.ca (LEUNG ISAAC JING H) writes:

>We have shop up here (Mountain Equipment Co-Op,Vancouver,B.C.), also carries bike stuff, has the
>Vetta C-20 sittin' right there...

>By the way, my bro' who bought a C-10 had the batteries conk out in like a month or 2
>dunno if this is a freak occurence or what...

>Isaac Leung
>ileung@unixg.ubc.ca?

No, this isn't a freak - my brother had the same problem.
I  guess they just put in some really cheap batteries.
BTW my cateye vectra is still going strong after 3 seasons
on one battery.  It might not be the lighest computer out 
there, but its taken a lot of abuse - flying off at 25mph!
-- 
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From: koren@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Steve Koren)
Date: Sun, 5 Apr 1992 23:06:45 GMT
Subject: Re: Re:  why shave legs? (or, where is Antibes?)
Organization: HP Fort Collins, Co.
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles


How about some reasons _not_ to shave your legs?

  * Its a pain and takes a long time to do.

  * If you get to be fast and have hairy legs, you can enjoy the
    priceless expressions on the out-of-shape-but-with-shaved-legs
    racers as you blow by them.  ("Hey, you can't pass me like that -
    you don't even have shaved legs!")  [ As a side note, I always
    thought it would be fun, if you had world-class potential but
    were unknown, to enter some races on an old $200 beat up bike with
    panniers, a kickstand, and a bell, and take first place. ]

  * To demonstrate that it really doesn't matter whether you shave your
    legs or not.

  * Save $$ in razor blades.

   - steve
Xref: sparky rec.bicycles:8697 news.answers:1004
From: kim39@husc8.harvard.edu (John Kim)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Riding Down Stairs
Date: 14 Apr 92 21:02:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Apr14.170201.11087
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

edu> mhaggrty@bucknell.edu (michael haggerty `93) writes:
>I was wondering what effect riding down stairs on a Mountain Bike can have on the bike.  I ride around on my campus a lot, and in many situations it is just easier to go down a few stairs than to go around a building.  Am I screwing my bike up gradually?  Nothing seems to be greatly effected.  Any comments?
>Mike (mhaggrty@bucknell.edu)

I occasionally ride a road bike down shallow stairs.

IMHO, if you use fat tires, properly inflated so they cannot bottom out,
and you have strong, true wheels, and you use your bent arms and legs
to absorb the shocks, then going down stairs on your bike should not damage the
bike unless:
a) You bottom out the tire (pinch flat and/or dented rim)
b) You have a cheap frame or one which is already suffering from 
	cracking
c) you crash into something else while going down the stairs.
d) You turn your wheel sideways and put a heavy lateral load on it.
-Case
From: sol@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ana von Klopp)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Why Shave Legs?
Date: 7 Apr 92 21:22:39 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, University of Edinburgh
In-reply-to: bob@netxcom.netx.com's message of 6 Apr 92 20:14:08 GMT


In article <969@netxcom.netx.com> bob@netxcom.netx.com (Robert Thralls) writes:


>  Most people serious enough to shave their legs are *bi* or tri athletes.
>  The shaving of the legs can reduce *drag*.
>  
Now *I*'d like to know where you got the data on bis and shaving from. 

Ana
(never mind the drag)
--
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just encourages them.
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In,
/ col:rec.bicycles / EASTON@SJFEVMX.VNET.IBM.COM ("John Easton") /  
8:23 am  Apr 13, 1992 /

John Easton writes,

>While instigating how to avoid airline shipping charges, for
>transporting an MTB, I noticed an advertisement in the latest Bicycling
>issue (pg 156). The association US Amateur offers a $74.95 annual
>membership.  This membership entitles you to reduced airfare, hotel and
>rental rates.  They also state that airlines carriers will allow you bike
>to fly free, if you have this membership.
>
>Is anyone familiar with the US Amateur membership?  Do airlines
>actually waive the bike transportation cost if you are a member?



US Amateur does what they claim to do. I've belonged for one year and I
plan to renew for another year. The hitch is that the deal only works on
Delta and Continental. It is a little bit of an inconvenience, also.
You must call US Am and tell them your flight plans. They then send you 
the coupons to give to the ticket agent. The agent then attaches the 
coupons to your ticket. It would be nice if they gave you an ID card 
instead.

So if you travel enough to make it worthwhile  AND  you like to ride
your bike when you travel AND you don't mind lugging it with you AND
you want to ride where Delta and Continental (Ugh ) fly AND you know
your plans well enough ahead that you can order the coupons from US Am
THEN its a good deal.

----------
Arnie Berger
arnie@hplsdvt
Telnet 590-5642
From: wulfie@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: The risk of riding rather than driving a Bike :*)
Date: 12 Apr 92 00:27:30 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Hafta laugh at the drive/ride conundrum.  As a transplanted Missourian I
was truly taken aback when the rural folk of Queens County, Nova Scotia
all said "drive a bike"  I was also royally embarrassed the first time I
asked for a ride (context: in someone's car)  To ask for a ride is to risk
being laughed at or if the petitioned is of the opposite sex, one risks a
hand print on one's face... (Y'all can guess the slang meaning...)

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From: ftp@csrc.ncsl.nist.gov (Anonymous FTP User)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Bike Log Hypercard Stack
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:09:57 GMT
Distribution: rec.bicycles
Organization: National Institute of Standards and Technology

I finally tried the Bike Log Hypercard stack that had been listed on here
and the mileage totalling function doesn't seem to work. I keep getting an
error about a missing Distance background field.

I can't remember where I got the stack or who put it out.

Anyone know, or is there an updated version?

Thanks, John
From: mprime@titanium.Berkeley.EDU (Michael B. Prime)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Cat 4/5 mix is bullshit!!
Date: 6 Apr 92 20:29:54 GMT
Article-I.D.: pasteur.1992Apr6.202954.18324
Organization: University of California at Berkeley

In article <1992Apr6.110415.54224@cc.usu.edu> sl3vx@cc.usu.edu writes:
>
>I'm a cat. 4 and love to go racing on the weekends at the local races here in 
>Utah.  Under the new rule that Cat. 5 can ride with Cat. 4 a lot of problems 
>have come up.
>
>	First, that more people have gone down and been taken to the hospital.
>The bike handling  
>skills of most 5s are limited and this has made for some very scary times.  I'm
>not saying that 5s are the total cause of loss of blood and skin but that cat
>4s mixed with 5s is like, drinking and driving, the problems are enlarged. 
>This move by the USCF needs to be changed to reduce accidents.
>
Crashes happen. I don't believe that the skills of 5's are that much worse
than those of 4's. When I raced 3's there were tons of crashes since 3's
are just 4's that were aggressive enough to win races. The 4 and 5 
categories need to be combined often since field sizes don't warrant two
fields and this way everyone can ride.

>	Second, this combined Cats. has brought the idea that cash prizes are
>not allowed!  The rule reads that Cat 5s cannot get money, but it does not
>read for Cat. 4s the same way....
>                                    Think about it Cat 5s and 4s are paying for
>the awards of the other classifications, thats bullshit.  The little trinkets
>that they give us are bullshit, we cannot put them into our gas tanks.  I don't
>try to make money at the races I just want to break even!
>
If you want to make money, or just break even, then upgrade to Cat 2 and
train hard. Too many beginner riders complain about the prizes. I was
always glad to pay ~$10 to do a nice race - if its not worth the money
don't do it.
      And I don't buy that lower categories pay for higher category prizes.
They pay the promoter's cost and profit. Most local to regional Cat 1/2/pro
races have less prize money then the entry fees. Here in CA the 1/2 race is
usually full - 100+ riders at $10 = $1000+ -  and the prizes usually go
from $200 - $600, maybe to $1000. I've done the pro races with prize totals
from $5000 and up and paid up to $50 to get in these races.
     No crybabies -  you should be racing for fun.

Mike
From: bhilden@stelvio.Eng.Sun.COM (Bruce Hildenbrand)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Cupertino Bike Shop Swap Meet April 26th(Silicon Valley)
Date: 7 Apr 92 20:18:48 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: stelvio

Cupertino Bike shop is holding a bicycle parts swap meet
on Sunday, April 26th from 10am-4pm.
   ^^^^^^
   note

Road, mountain and tandem bikes and parts are welcome.  If you would
like to sell your parts, table space runs either $10 or $20 depending
on size.  Those wishing to buy parts are admitted free of charge.

Cupertino Bike Shop will be offerring special deals on all 1991
bikes and several manufacturer's representatives will be in attendence.

The address is 21670 Stevens Creek Blvd., Cupertino, for more
details call the shop at (408)255-2217.
From: sl3vx@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Cat 5 is bullshit, USCF has become desperate for $$$$
Date: 17 Apr 92 10:28:47 MDT
Organization: Utah State University


I kind of think that the new cat 5 category should be thrown out this next year

and that the old system be brought back to life.  In talking with a number of 

seasoned racers they think the same.  This cat breeds a false sense of hope

in the members, or if you will "I can hang".  This cat 5 crap is stupid and I 

see no reason for it.  The USCF is acting upon the $$$ idea and have not taken

into consideration anything else.  Give me your opinion(s) or success stories

with the cat. 5 category idea.  I think the Velo-News cartoon about the Cat 5

official patch is living true to a "T".

Greg 

"give blood ride crits"-- A.M.A
From: IK80014@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Andrew Paradis)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: FAQ me ...
Date: 5 Apr 92 16:53:59 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System


  I would also like a copy of the FAQ, as I haven't
noticed it around recently.

  Or will it posted again soon?
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"Come as you are."              |  POBox6 Ft.Kt., ME 04744
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Organization: Sophomore, Chemical Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 01:22:26 -0400 
From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <cm43+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Low Profile brakes=low performance braking?

I don;t know about anyone else out there, but a friend of mine on campus
just recieved inthe maila  new Cannondale sm2000, last years model,
equiped with the XT low profile brakes.  He doesn't have the 'special
Shimano tool' to set them up properly, but some how, possible through
his infinite anal-ness (Elec Eng. type), he managed to getthem working. 
surprisingly they have been ridden by many folks in our club, all
indicate that they are by far the best set up brakes we have seen, the
lock up almost immediatly and hold in all conditions we could test them
in, didn't try water yet.  I guess they are just really hard to set up,
but after they are set upo right, they are wonderful.  
I must say though that I prefer the Kool-Stop pads to the XT pads, they
are better for braking, and seem to last longer, on top of being less
expensive!
--Chris
school: x4545
Home: 703-264-0058
cm43@andrew.cmu.edu
From: vinson@shiva.seas.upenn.edu (Jack Vinson)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Bent Derailleur Hanger
Date: 17 Apr 92 13:04:26 GMT
Organization: The University of Pennsylvania

Allan 'Arnold' Anderson writes this in article 
>In article <1992Mar12.002358.12114@pasteur.Berkeley.EDU>, c150-ay@volga.Berkeley.EDU (Albert S Chi) writes:
>>My friend suggested using a strong pair of pliers or even a vice, but I want
>>to take it into the shop.  Would taking it in be a bad/expensive/unnecessary
>>move? Please post, or mail to chi@ucsee.berkeley.edu.  Thanks in advance.
>>
>	I would say that it is probably worth it to take it into the shop. 
>There is always the possibility that the metal in the hanger may be a little
>fatigued and might crack off if you do it yourself and you bend it too far. If
>you take it to a good shop, they should be able to tell you if it's fixable or
>not, if they take it and it isn't fixable and they break it off it's their
>fault. I'd feel really dumb if I tried to straighten out my hanger and cracked
>it off.  Plus, bike shops usually have ways of knowing exactly where straight
>is; if you did it yourself, it would probably just be done by sight.


Actually, the tool that was just used on my bike is pretty cool.  It screws
into the same hole that the derailleur does and has a long arm attatched to
it perpendicular to the bolt (parallel with the plane of the wheel and
bike).  To straighten the dropout, the arm is pulled like a lever in the
proper direction.  Proper direction?  Well, if you look at the distance
between the arm of the tool and your wheel at several locations (like 12,
3, 6 and 9 o'clock) you can determine which way the drop needs to go.

I was pretty amazed at how easy it was to fix.  I also had the opportunity
to see a frame and fork get straightened (ran into a vehicle).

Jack Vinson			The Purple Puddle Eater
vinson@shiva.seas.upenn.edu     vinson@unagi.cis.upenn.edu

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From: junger@rsg1.er.usgs.gov (John Unger)
Subject: Re: 26" wheels: the ultimate criterium size?
Organization: U.S. Geological Survey, Reston VA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:08:23 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.150914.26149@news.larc.nasa.gov> Ken_Goodrich@gcdmacs.larc.nasa.gov (Ken_Goodrich) writes:
>Not to beat a dead horse if this a frequently discussed issued, but why did
>mountain bikers go back to 26" wheels if roadies have found 27/700 wheels to be
>the best compromise between fit and performance.  I can see that MB frames are
>...
>motorcycle.  Could a racer gain a (small) edge by using 700c wheels, assuming
>appropriate tires and frame were available.
>
>Ken_Goodrich
>
Within the last week or so I saw an ad in one of the bicycling rags that
I subscribe to where someone was riding a MB (Bianchi???, I can't
remember the builder) specifically made for 700 wheels.  The point of the
ad was that this guy was winning all sorts of races just becasue his MB
had 700 wheel size rather than 26".  I wasn't convinced...

     cheers -- John
     junger@mtn.er.usgs.gov
From: BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Valve Nuts (was Re: A NEW question about MA-2's)
Date: 12 Apr 92 02:24:42 GMT

Al Davis writes:

> How do I know?  I broke off two in one ride before I learned.  My first
> ride of any significant distance with cleats.

Two points here:

1. The jamb nut holds the stem when pumping so that it does not recede
   into the rim when pressing the pump head against the tire.  This is
   especially useful when the tire is flat (after installing the tube).
   It also keeps the stem from wiggling around while pumping.  I have
   not had difficulty in removing the nut over these many years of
   bicycling.  When hands are very cold this is a problem, but then so
   is everything else.  Just opening the valve nut on a Presta valve
   can be difficult under such conditions.

2. Breaking off stems while using a frame pump is a misunderstanding of
   the concept.  I find new tubes along the roadside with broken off
   stems.  The pump head is to be held in the fist and pumping force is
   supposed to be between the hands, not the hand and the rim.  To
   practice this action take the pump in hand with the thumb over the
   outlet and pump vigorously letting no air out.  No net force should
   escape since there is no other body involved.  This is essentially
   what should take place when pumping a tire.

   That the some of the people who do not grasp this concept have
   deficient thinking is proved by their discarding the evidence along
   the road.  They also have no concept of blatant littering for which
   there are large fines in this area.  They probably think it serves
   the stupid tube right for breaking off.  I think otherwise.  It is
   unfortunate that bike shops do not instruct new bike owners about the
   use of the frame pump and some tire patch hints like don't try to
   ride a freshly patches tube, carry a spare and always use the spare
   after patching the current tube.  I think we covered that extensively
   here earlier.  If it isn't in the FAQ it should be.

jobst_brandt@hplabs.hp.com
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Bike Log Hypercard Stack
From: news@massey.ac.nz (USENET News System)
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 92 04:41:23 GMT
Reply-To: P.Etheridge@massey.ac.nz
Organization: SMIS, Massey University, NZ

In article <2708@dove.nist.gov> ftp@csrc.ncsl.nist.gov (Anonymous FTP User)
writes:
>I finally tried the Bike Log Hypercard stack that had been listed on here
>and the mileage totalling function doesn't seem to work. I keep getting an
>error about a missing Distance background field.
>
>I can't remember where I got the stack or who put it out.
>
>Anyone know, or is there an updated version?

I couldn't reply direct to an anonymous ftp user, so...

That sounds like one of the bugs in the first "beta release" I posted.  The
latest version is on the rec.bicycles server (draco.acs.uci.edu), in
pub/rec.bicycles (I think).

Phil Etheridge              Internet: P.Etheridge@massey.ac.nz
Macintosh Consultant        Phone:    +64+6-356 9099 ext 8689
SMIS, Massey University     Fax:      +64+6-350 5611
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Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
From: praetzel@tesla.waterloo.edu (Eric Praetzel)
Subject: jokes take from the tri group
Summary:  A little something from the tri's to make the day go by 
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 17:55:06 GMT


In article <1992Apr7.170614.18129@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> ang@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (wayne.p.langan) writes:
>
>1.) Which shaving cream/razor combo is best for pre race shave?

	For people who end up cutting themselves with a razor,
	I would suggest using Nair.  You could lather it on
	right before the swim and then come out of the water with
	baby smooth skin.
	
>2.) Who holds the record for eating the most PowerBars in 1 sitting?

	I don't know - but I did eat with someone who has a world
	record for number of trips to the sundae bar at Ponderosa.

>3.) Best dog repellent for bike rides.

	Ride with slower riders - when the dogs start chasing you,
	sprint away from your slower partners and let them deal
	with the mutts.

>4.) Kickstands. Do they save time in the transition?

	Yes, but you have to also account for the time you lose
	due to the kickstand causing more wind resistance on the
	bike leg.  Personally, I only use a kickstand for the
	shorter sprint courses.  I hear Profile is coming out with
	an aero titanium kickstand - it might be worth looking into
	to.  Mike Pigg is supposedly going to be using on the Bud Light
	circuit.

>5.) Best way to remove the black magic marker numbers.

	Sandpaper.

>6.) Which size water pail works best in the transition area.

	The bigger the better.  I like a size where I can just hop in
	and get my whole body immersed.  Sometimes I bring a portable
	generator and whirlpool machine so I can loosen up between the
	bike and run legs.

>7.) How to hog the most room in the transition area.

	See number 6.  Also, put up a tent, 4-person size or larger.
	I find army surplus stores are great andrelatively cheap, if
	you don't mind the wide range of colors - olive green,
	olive green, or olive green.

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From: ehouse@Apple.COM (Eric House)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Computer that is easy to switch between bikes?
Date: 15 Apr 92 15:10:52 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

In article <9204131635.AA17883@hplomg.hpl.hp.com> BRANDT_JOBST/HP1900_01@HPLOMG.HPL.HP.COM writes:
>
>Unfortunately the AVO40 and AV050 are not suited for mixed use with
>two different wheel sizes because they store arbitrary units that
>are converted to user units on output in metric or English units.
>This means you can switch units easily without error but changing
>the calibration number changes the distance traveled.  This, as was
>mentioned earlier, is to be corrected on the next software turn.
>

When is this "turn" to take place?  I want an Av 50, but can't afford one
for each tire size I use.
-- 
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			   	 me, so I can share only mine with you"
From: brianm@sco.COM (Brian Moffet ext 7605)
Newsgroups: rec.bicycles
Subject: Re: Greg LeMond on Summer Olympics Team USA?
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 21:05:45 GMT
Organization: The Santa Cruz Operation, Inc.



Please watch the newsgroups you are posting to. Greg LeMond really does not
belong on rec.motorcycles.  

thanks much, I am just trying to re-establish some sanity.

brian moffet
-- 
             "I am NAN!  I am a free man!"	--	paraphrased

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