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From: xjam@cork.CS.Berkeley.EDU (The Crossjammer)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: House and Deep House, what's the difference?
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:50:53
Organization: University of California, Berserkeley
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In-reply-to: SDDASCOMB@poppy.ucdavis.edu's message of 29 Jul 92 23:45:34 GMT

>>>>> "STEVEN" == STEVEN D. DASCOMB <SDDASCOMB@poppy.ucdavis.edu> writes:
  STEVEN> There's been a bit of discussion amongst people I know about what the
  STEVEN> difference between house and deep house. So either post up a 
  STEVEN> good definition.... in 50 words or less. Flame away. 

Deep House: Ten City, Sterling Void, Mass Order, Crystal Waters, Degrees of
Motion.  Hearkens back to house music's Philadelphia soul and New Jersey
garage roots. A good deep house cut makes you feel like you were in church.

House: Todd Terry, Kenny "Dope", Kevin Saunderson, Mayday, Strictly Rhythm,
Nervous Records, Dee-Lite (barely), Black Box. Up tempo dance music
generally relying on rhythmic progressions to build up tension and then
release. Barely if any vocals, lots of snare, kick drum, high-hat, and tom.

The two definitely overlap.

A bit more than 50 words, but that should do the trick.

--
xjam@cork.Berkeley.EDU  	Fiiiive Thousand Boomin Watts...... -The JBeez

They can't come on and play me in prime time, 	    | Free Millipede coin op
Cause I know the time, cause I'm gettin' mine.	    | and House music at my
I get on the mix late in the night... -Public Enemy | place! Drop by sometime.

Xref: sparky alt.rave:1800 rec.music.misc:20389
From: bbs-morpheus@jwt.UUCP (Erik Dahlberg)
Newsgroups: alt.rave,rec.music.misc
Subject: Re: "Ask Alice...", anyone?
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:48:01 GMT
Reply-To: bbs-morpheus@jwt.UUCP
Organization: The Matrix

bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf)) writes:

> Speaking of techno-60's remakes, anyone heard and/or know the name of and/or
> have the techno version of "Hey Jude"? Very similar to Candy Flip's remake
> of Strawberry Fields, but here they still use the original vocals. I guess
> for that reason it's probably not an official release...
> 
> 	Brian


    If I'm not mistaken, that's a remix of SL2's "On A Ragga Tip."  Goes 
through the normal song without the usual intro, plays the song for a bit 
with a restyled beat, then goes back and forth from "Hey Jude" to "On A 
Ragga Tip."  If you like that, and like hardcore/breakbeat style techno, 
also check out Acen's "Close Your Eyes" remix.  Has a pretty well-done 
(in my opinion) sample of "Here Comes The Sun."  It does it for me... 
especially when you're dancing around 6am and hear it.  How appropo!

- Erik


Erik D. Dahlberg  (bbs.morpheus@jwt.UUCP)
".. some say pushing is better than shoving but I'd rather know a shover 
 than a pusher 'cos the pusher's a jerk." - De La Soul.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: spray@convex.com (Rob Spray)
Subject: Re: Apotheosis--No Show (was Re: "GO" samples)
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:23:35 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Jul26.190751.23704@cybernet.cse.fau.edu> steve@cse.fau.edu (Steve Smith) writes:

>In article <1992Jul24.064523.4676@gagme.chi.il.us> wyller@gagme.chi.il.us (wyller) writes:
>>
>>Apotheosis was supposed to play at Kaboom! a club here in Chicago.  They
>>didn't show up though.  Rumour was taht they just cancelled, but ppl at
>>the club were saying something about airplane problems.  The DJs they

>This is too wierd.  Apotheosis was, according to the radio, *supposed*
>to play at The Institute in Miami Beach last night.  We got all the way
>down there only to find the place all closed up, no signs, and no interesting
>people milling about.  All very wierd.  Appearantly there is an "Encore"
>show much closer to home tonight but I wonder.....

Well, Apotheosis _did_ play The Lizard Lounge in Dallas on Sunday 7/26.

Two guys, two women, all choreographed, wearing headset mikes, that
were live some of the time, plus a live mike.  The rest was on DAT
or whatever.  Not bad, since it was $3 for 18-21, free for >21!
Did all the Big Hit Records.  One guy looks like a Vanilla Ice clone!

Coming up: Digital Boy 8/9; Moby 8/16

--Rob  spray@convex.com

Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: c9037332@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Re: Attention DJs! Raving, I'm raving!
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 06:33:25 GMT

In article <1992Jul17.171138.10579@rice.edu>, nat@owlnet.rice.edu (Nathaniel W Guyton) writes:
> Whassup techno ravers everywhere. My name is DJ Dakota I am interested in
> knowing what other DJs are playing . Ther is so much techno out it is hard to 
> filter through it all to find the really dope stuff. I am deejaying at an 
> Atlanta club called Candide and I call my night there which is every Wednesday 
> Empire:techno acid reign. Anyway my top 5 is as follows:
> 1. Elevation - GTO
> 2. The Creator - The Creator
> 3. Mindcontroller - 80 Aum
> 4. Obumbratta - Apotheosis
> 5. Milky Way - 2 Fabiola
> All these songs are dope as shit. So all of you hardcore techno deejays let 
> me know what's hot on your playlists!!!!!  I am also the promoter for Empire so 
> I am constantly looking for new and interesting events for my night. I have had
> everthing from fashion shows to live band performances by techno bands.So 
> anyway if you live in in the Atlanta area or if you are going to be in the 
> Atlanta area please contact me. I am trying to start a rave scene here since 
> there really isn't one at the moment. My night Empire was one of the first 
> techno rave nights in the city.So all you ravers out there 
> let me know whasssssssup! Later! Peace!
> 
> 		DJ Dakota 
> 
> ----------
> This was posted by a friend, so make all replies to ar010@vader.cc.emory.edu 
> -- 
>              \----------------- Nat Guyton ---------------------/
>               \May you discover something about yourself today./
>                \  (Understanding life is a powerful feeling)  /
>                 \---------- nat@owlnet.rice.edu -------------/


I'm  Dj Maestro from Newcastle, Aust my play list at the moment is 

                    1.  Techno party -- Opera 
                    2.  May day __ Westbam
                    3.  do what you want to do -- Cascade
                    4.  Can you dig it -- Jem 77
                    5.  the Music is Move'n -- Fargetta

             If you Dont already have any of these,findem cos they KicK.

                              cheers!
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: KLF - what happened?
Date: 28 Jul 1992 08:14:44 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Jul28.064838.8892@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> ahawks@nyx.UUCP (andy) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.030231.23553@regina.cs.uregina.ca>
>keeler@hercules.uregina.ca (Jason Keeler) writes: 
>|I had heard about a month ago they had split up.  Has anyone heard any recent
>|news?  Why did they split?  

>They got tired, basically.  I don't know that much.  I imagine someone like
>Lazlo Nibble will know.

*conjecture:* They're in Mexico making their movie.  Predict a major return to
the music industry by Christmas.  First Ross Perot, and then the KLF.  

Or maybe they'll mutate once again... maybe they're already among us incognito!

>|Another question I had about the KLF is their image; I hear them as a
>|techno-dance style band and yet I get the picture that they are somehow hard
>|rock based (this probably doesn't make sense).  

Yeah, it's the kilt that made me think that too :)

>|The reason I mention this is
>|because of their appearance on the brit awards this year; I was TOTALLY
>|surprised.  They weren't at all what I expected.    

I don't think _anyone_ expected that Brit show.  Except maybe Culfinion....
I too would like to see a copy of that show....  maybe someone could convince
Arista to release a documentary on the KLF or something?  That would be
great, and I'm sure you could make a miniseries out of the KLF NEWS mailings
themselves!

>Oh, BTW, the guys from the KLF (Cauty) have been in the music industry a long
>time..I think Cauty produced Echo & The Bunneymen at one point or something
>like that...That may explain their image...

I think he was their agent at the record company?  To further bang my head
against a wall, let me say that Jimi released a solo album called "The Man"
before any of the KLF stuff... haven't heard it, but I heard it was brilliant.

>(Hey, cheap pun time:  KLF vs. Echo & The Bunneymen:  "She floats like a
>sheep, dead on the water")

There's an Echo & the Bunnymen mix of "What Time Is Love" - lots of Indian
sitar sounds for some reason, and very ambient, not really what I'd associate
with E&TB but hm.....

I shall refrain from furthering this pun....

>|Finally, can someone suggest a CD or two which might be along the same lines
>|as what the KLF have done; I was quite impressed with their last (literally?)
>|release.  
>
>By last release do you mean The White Room (which was poopy, yeah, that's
>right poopy, IMHO)??  The KLF have done everything...Check out Chill Out... :)
>At any rate, you'd probly like The Shamen....

Aw, the White Room wasn't THAT bad.  Of all the top 40 stuff they programmed at
the record store I worked at, I liked the White Room the most.  "Make it Rain"
is a bloody awesome track, and could use a good remix too. 


	Brian
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: FAQ
Date: 28 Jul 92 23:13:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Irvine

is there an alt.rave FAQ?

the most f.a.q. being, what is (a) rave?

im sure there are others, so if there is no FAQ
how bout making one,  what are some good FAQs?

what are smart drinks/drugs?
a descript of LSD/X/Nitrous
maybe some rave history
some major DJ's / Group
 i dont know

suggestions?

--
If we were still going barefoot the world would be a
much softer place.
				   ,
IravethereforeIam Prod.           dana watanabe
From: bbehlen@soda.berkeley.edu (Vitamin B (Brian Behlendorf))
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: Some questions on rave making (Fog)
Date: 30 Jul 1992 07:47:00 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley, CS Undergraduate Association
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Jul30.042832.9260@src.umd.edu> tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards) writes:
>on.  The whole house was in white-out conditions...still didn't make me
>cough any, though the juice perfume was getting a little intense.
>You can get the stuff in all kinds of neat smells, like "tropical
>scented."  

	You can also add extracts of, say, vanilla or something, for a better
smell.  That worked well at two events I had.

	Different people have different sensitivities to the "hot fog" - a few
people couldn't stand any when they walked in and had to leave immediately,
while I've locked myself in a room before, closed the windows, and took the
visibilty down to about 2 feet for a few hours and had no problems....

	Brian


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From: howard@netcom.com (Howard Berkey)
Subject: Re: SF RAVES mailing list.
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 19:26:43 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: world,local

In article <28512@goofy.Apple.COM> (Respect) writes:
>In article <12JUL92103613@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu>, omf@tiamat.hacks.arizona.edu (Oscar Fowler) writes:
>> 
>> Hi folks, I just need the address to the SFRAVES mailing list.
>> If someone could post or email it, I'd appreciate it.
>
>So far as I know (I got a hardcopy secondhand), just send your name and
>e-mail address to sfraves-request@soda.berkeley.edu.
>
>For those unfamiliar with the SF Raves calendar, it's a weekly list of 
>raves in the SF area.  It's pretty extensive and lists clubs with techno,
>too.  If you're new to the area or just visiting this will do you a lot
>better than scouring the city for comps/fliers.
>

  Wow, Brian will probably be happy that people are passing hardcopies of 
the sfraves address around...  The address is correct, and the list is not only
a list of raves/clubs but also a forum for bay area people interested in raves 
or techno music to communicate.  Anyone is welcome there, there's close to 
180 people already on the list so hopefully we'll see you there!

-Howard

p.s. There's also a New England list but I can't remember the email address.








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Genius, n.:
	A chemist who discovers a laundry additive that rhymes with
"bright".
From: dwatanab@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Dana Watanabe)
Subject: Rave, Love, Fun etc.
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:44:56 GMT


due to the overwhelming success of narnia,
a similar event will be repeated soon

(and thats not success as in the fact that it made so much money
its a success cuz everyone was so happy and loving afterwards)

but in the mean time if you ever need a place to come down
or just hang out on a sunday morning/afternoon
go to Balboa Park in san diego

it near the corner of 6th adn Balboa Dr 
all you have to do is go perpendicular to 
6th and head down into whatever valley thing that is and
i have no real idea of where it is, but just listen for the music



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 ,
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tsines@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Todd J Sines)
Subject: Re: FAQ: Moby info and discography
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 12:05:38 GMT

also, i interviewed moby for visual razorblade magazine and he said he was paid
$150 a night when he was on tour with the shamen. he said they picked him cause
he was cheap, he was one person, and he was self contained. when the shamen 
were getting high on the tour bus, moby was reading books--he doesn't drink, 
smoke or do drugs he says.

to my knowledge, moby doesn't own instinct. whether or not he will stay on 
instinct despite his now major success, is up in the air. something about 
warner brothers, etc, etc.

in concert, moby uses a dat in combination with a rack mount (some synth and
piano modules, etc) along with his roland octapad and his yamaha controller.

that is all for today.,

sines
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From: ccx009@cch.coventry.ac.uk (Adam Bentley)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Re: "The Horn Track"
Date: 30 Jul 92 14:26:03 GMT
Organization: Coventry University

In article <1992Jul30.065136.9897@nmsu.edu> ghond@acca.nmsu.edu (ICE-9) writes:
>Superquick review:  Picked this up on white label 12" from HMV in
>Toronto.  Incredible.  Sounds like Dead Can Dance samples over an
>absolutely WICKED breakbeat techno groove.  The DJ who spun it for
>me said it had something to do with Future Sound of London (whose
>album I did *not* buy, unfortunately, since it was $29).  If their
>stuff is anything like this, however,  I definitely will.
>
>Only info:
>	"The Horn Track"
>	Produced by London's Tim Taylor
>	Original UK Breakbeat mix & Toxik 2 Hardcore remix
>	EX-02
>	(212) 472-7975
>	Dist. by NCP
>	
>-- stephen, the I.C.E man

More information for those who are interested from today's UK edition of
MixMag Update (re-produced without permission).

The Horn Track (Promo).

Made to look like a U.S. black label promo, this is apparently the work of 
Joey Beltram, although credited to London's Tim Taylor, courtesy of a neat
little scam by Focus Records, who, as it happens, are conveniently based in
the UK and US it would seem. Confused? You will be. Anyway, the result is 
suitably impressive and, as the title suggests, it's based around a mad 
horn sound, which sounds like a cross between bagpipes and a middle-eastern
snake charmer's flute. I'll leave you to decide. Little snippets of the
Human League's 'Love Action' and the 'kettle' sound from Public Enemy's
'Rebel' are used together with a monstrous breakbeat speeded right up for
maximum effect.

RATING : 5 (out of 5)
Review by Dave Wesson (C) DMC Publishing Ltd.


hope that clarifies things a bit......




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FLESH: Adam Bentley (Fraggle), Systems/Networking, Coventry University. UK
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: tedwards@src.umd.edu (Thomas Grant Edwards)
Subject: Re: Some questions on rave making (Fog)
Organization: Systems Research Center, Maryversity of Uniland, College Park
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 04:28:32 GMT

In article <=akmgg.bprofane@netcom.com> bprofane@netcom.com (Gert Niewahr) writes:
>Generally, there's hot fog and cold fog.  Cold fog is water vapor
>created by dumping dry ice into water, so it is "real" fog in a
>way.  It sinks, though, which is why it's not really popular in
>theatrical productions.  Theatres use hot fog, which is produced by
>a machine (not cheap, but you can rent one) that vaporizes 
>special gunk.  No, it's not really harmful unless you were stuck in
>a sealed box breathing it, but it's not pleasant to breathe,
>either.  It's not real fog (water vapor formed on airborne
>particulate); it's smoke.

I snagged one of these for a party once...it's wrong to say it produces
"smoke."  It produces very fine droplets of liquid, which is mostly
water, but has some binders mixed into it.   Most modern "fog juices"
are pretty OK to breathe, and I've never got the coughs from the stuff.
No, I wouldn't want to live in the fog, but one night I wouldn't worry
about. 

At the end of the party, I crashed out, but a particularly drunk
friend left the machine on.  I was awaken by the third-floor
smoke detector going off (I was on second floor).  I opened the door,
and could not see for more than a foot.  We killed about 1/4 of the juice
during the party, and the other 3/4 during the time he left the machine
on.  The whole house was in white-out conditions...still didn't make me
cough any, though the juice perfume was getting a little intense.
You can get the stuff in all kinds of neat smells, like "tropical
scented."  

-Thomas 
 resident technoshaman
 

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From: pashdown@javelin.sim.es.com (Pete Ashdown)
Subject: TASTE mailing list and distribution.
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:04:46 GMT


1.  If you're interested in traveling to Utah for a rave, send me your address
and I'll put you on the mailing list.

2.  If you are in Colorado, Nevada, Wyoming, Idaho, or California and would be
willing to distribute flyers to local clubs and record shops, mail me.
-- 
	   "What state is Salt Lake City in?" - Ticketmaster Agent

DISCLAIMER: My writings have NOTHING to do with my employer.  Keep it that way.
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Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Mike J. Brown)
Subject: ne-raves address?
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 04:33:30 GMT

Does anyone have the address for the ne-raves list?
-- 
Mike Brown
mjbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
"The Universe is a spheroid region 705 meters in diameter."
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: c9037332@wombat.newcastle.edu.au
Subject: Re: Techno release dates/Try these.: .....
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 05:52:26 GMT

In article <1571@spam.ua.oz>, dcook@spam.ua.oz (David Cook) writes:
> btw: I'm looking for recommendations for 'hardcore' techno
> compilations - there's a 1 hour techno show on a local radio
> station, which I tape each week, but I want more :-)
> (For any other Adelaide readers, if any, the show is at
> 10:00pm, Tuesday night, on MMM-FM (for other Australian
> readers, Adelaide's MMM-FM is in no way related to MMM-FM
> in any other Australian city - thank goodness :-) ).
> 
> David T Cook   e-mail: dcook@spam.adelaide.edu.au   Phone: +61 8 228 5709

A friend of mine wants to reply to this:.......so::

If you want some info on techno compilations try these on for size;
,,,,,,,extravagance Vol 1 ( done by the same crew as Reactive , this is more 
on the Italian anthem tip )
,,,,,,,Only for the Headstrong 2 ( this is on FFrr and is FFrresh )
,,,,,,,Chapter 3 XL recordings ( this a Break beat house Album )
,,,,,,,Energia ( this is an italian Album from earlier this year which has some 
hard to get tracks like the original 'what I gotta do' by Antico and Doris
Nortons '01 Rave')
   I'm getting a compilation from italy next week that has new  singles from 
Fargetta 'the music is move'n', from Dj Molella and Armadeus' I'll get back to 
you when I can remember the name .......CHEERS......
  

 
   
Newsgroups: alt.rave
From: ahawks@nyx.cs.du.edu (andy)
Subject: Re: Fast Music for Rave People (was: more moby)
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 07:01:53 GMT

In article <pcpm6aq@lynx.unm.edu> lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble) writes:
|mikes@owlnet.rice.edu (Michael Shou-Yung Shum) writes:
|
|> i don't mean to offend anyone, but the idea of a techno compilation on
|> cd being attractive to anyone is beyond me... how can anyone just
|> _listen_ to techno... 
|
|Real easy: I put it on the CD player and listen to it.  It's hard to sit
|still, but it's *damned* easy to listen to (and stay out of the way when
|I've got "Injected With A Poison" cranked up in the car).
|_____________________________________________________________________________

Yeah, now doubt...techno make's great background music for life...In my room,
my cd changer turns on with the light switch and starts shuffle playing
automatically..I can listen to techno when on the computer, doing homework,
reading (if the volume's low enough), and most certainly in the car..

I know what you mean about being in the car....I end up swerving all over the
road because I'm trying to jam, have my arms up in the air and everything...
Thank god for stoplights!  You get a few seconds to "dance" in your car, while
the people next to you wonder what you've been smokin'....

|On the other hand, right now I'm listening to the original "3 a.m. Eternal"
|at 33 instead of 45.  Fucking gorgeous . . . it's in the strauss break of
|the blue danube orbital mix now . . . sighhhh . . . 
|_____________________________________________________________________________

Gregorian Chant mixed with Chill out and a loop of a Public Enemy beat for
me right now...It'll last another 30 minutes...not techno, but damned cool..

|--
|Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)

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From: wdao@girtab.usc.edu (Walter Dao)
Newsgroups: alt.rave
Subject: Tetris by GameBoys
Date: 25 Jul 1992 18:22:49 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu


The song Tetris by the GameBoys is available on CD on one of the many 
compilations around here . Now the version is only (?) 3 or 4 minutes long. 
How long is it on vinyl ?


						Walt
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