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From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: 4000
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:30:28 GMT

bj@cbmvax.commodore.com (Brian Jackson - Amiga Networking) writes:

>Word on GEnie (from folks at the WOC show) is that Creative Computers is
>taking orders at $2900.

Good.  At least that ridiculous list price isn't hanging around.

>ANYTHING that you can't afford is "overpriced".  The consensus on GEnie
>seems to be that folks are surprised that it's so _IN_expensive for what you
>get.  

So what *do* you get besides the extra colors/screenmodes and an '040?
Any apps yet support AGA?  How about CD-ROM for the 4000?  Is AmigaVision
bundled with the 4000?  (I hope so).

I think I speak for more than one Amiga user when I say that before I plunk
down >$3000 (I'd need a new monitor too, since the 1080 won't cut the new
video modes), it better be a lot more capable than my old system.  (Which, 
BTW is an A500 with 1meg chip/4 megs fast)  Some of us have no opportunity
to go to our local Amiga dealership and look at a 4000, because we don't
have a local dealership.  (Or at least one that actually *has* an Amiga!) 

>       +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +  +
>       Brian Jackson    Amiga Networking Group, Commodore-Amiga Inc.
>                        bj@cbmvax.commodore.com

Well no *wonder* he's not saying new Amigas are overpriced.... :)

*donning flame-proof suit*
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From: copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope)
Subject: Re: Hard disk throughput speed ?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 06:08:56 GMT

hoffmann@nutmeg.ntu.edu.au (Arthur Hoffmann) writes:

>In article <copes.716015341@marsh>, copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope) writes:
>> msnider@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com (Marc A. Snider x0193) writes:
>> 
>> >What kind of throughput can I expect from a stock A3000?  How about the
>> >the fastest throughput possible today on an A3000 and by what means?
>> 
>> >Thanks,
>> >M. Snider
>> 
>> My A3000 25/50 with 6 megs fastram runs around 850K/sec to 1M/sec depending
>> on disk usage and fragmentation.  Thats set up with 100 buffers and the stock
>> Quantum 52LPS drive.  Sling in a Quantum 240LPS and you can expect around
>> 1.3-1.6 M/sec, sustainable.  GVP's 040 for the A3000 doesn't have a scsi

>Hi, 
>I wonder how you get such high speeds I am using an A3000 and a Quantum LPS105
>HD, but I only get a diskspeed (reading) of 820k/sec, and I have 16M FastRam and
>have allocated 1600 buffers for the drive. I measured that with Diskspeed V4.2.
>Why does Diskspeed hang my machine when it does it's byte allignmenttest at a
>4096 byte buffer??? After a reboot then, the disk has a checksum error.

>Arthur.
>					Arthur Hoffmann
>					hoffmann@pandanus.ntu.edu.au 

Past about 200 buffers it doesn't really make the transfer speed any higher, as
you start to slow down maintaining them.  It does however make seeks, creates,
deletes etc faster, but the optimum for this appears to be around 500 (on my
machine).
Some versions only run the WD scsi chip at 7Mhz, for some reason.  You could
check the jumpers on the motherboard, they're listed in your manual.  I'm not
sure why they did this, perhaps a problem with DMAC?  I presume your machine
is a 25Mhz version.  16Mhz ones would run slower on disk tests, due to slower
DMA.  All oz machines are 25Mhz.
Also, if you only have one drive, you could try disabling reselection in 
HDToolbox.  Back up your drive first, though.  On some systems this can make
a difference in speed (added 100K sec on mine).
Sounds like DiskSpeed 4.2 has a bug.  I only have 4.1, and it doesn't hang at 
all.  The sum error would be caused by diskspeed hanging during a write.

Hope these tips help.

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From: Rudolf_Neuhaus@ouzonix.bo.open.de (Rudolf Neuhaus)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: No Carrier Detect on A3000 int. Port
Distribution: world
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:00:52 CET
Organization: Ouzonix Bochum

Hi there,
here's another problem: for some weeks now, my A3000 doesn't recognize a
carrier detect signal anymore. I have tried with different modems and
cables. And also made a plug with CD connected to Ground - no reaction.
What could be the problem. If it is one of the CIAs - which one?
Rudy

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From: kzyx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: What about an A3000+ or A3500?
Date: 14 Sep 92 21:25:07 EDT
Distribution: comp
Organization: Cornell University

	What about a redesigned A3000 motherboard?

We could call it an A3000+ or A3500. The "dream" specs would be:

	* 68030/68882 at 50MHz

	* AGA chip set

	* SCSI-II on board

	* Same memory technology (ZIPs)

	* New DSP chip (replacing Paula)

	* OS3.0

	* Same footprint a A3000 motherboard for direct replacement.

I would upgrade my trustworthy A3000.

	Best regards,
	Edval Santos
esantos@ee.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: grubba@lysator.liu.se (Henrik Grubbstr|m)
Subject: A500 - Keyboard trouble
Summary: Wild resets caused by keyboard
Keywords: A500,amiga,keyboard
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 09:42:35 GMT

My A500 keyboard is failing.

Symptoms:
	* Sometimes the capslock lamp starts blinking about once a second, and
	the keyboard no longer accepts any input.
	* After a while the A500 resets.

System:
	A500,Super Denise (8375),Super Agnus (8375),1MChip,GVP HD8+52/2.

I had this same problem about a month ago, and swapped keyboard and keyboard processor
and Agnus & Denise. This problem hasn't shown again until now.

Does anybody know what's wrong?

Regards,

--
Henrik Grubbstrom					grubba@lysator.liu.se
Lysator Computer Club,
Linkoping University, Sweden
From: Boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: HELP NEEDED for packard bell svga monitor on A3000
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:57:16 MET
Reply-To: boinger@myamy.hacktic.nl (Paul Kolenbrander)
Distribution: world
Organization: System Information 2.0 Development
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

In article <1992Sep4.221609.18279@serval.net.wsu.edu> hbechtel@luke.wsu.edu (H. E. Bechtel) writes:
> A firend of mine who does not yet have net access has a problem...
> His brand new A3000 was connected to a SVGA packard bell monitor and
> it shows the left half of the image on the right side and the right half
> of the image on the left side making it impossible to use.

I had a similar problem with a MultiSync and a 3-State FlickerFixer
on my 2000. Does this happen if the displayenhancer is both on and
off? (Little rocker switch on th back of the A3000) Since the Bell
is an SVGA monitor it might not like being fed a 15.625KHz signal
when it expects an 31.5KHz signal. 

CYa, Paul

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From: gblock@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Gregory R Block)
Subject: Re: aga in 500/2000/3000?
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 02:06:29 GMT

DennyA@cup.portal.com (Denny Lee Atkin) writes:
: Mort Kevelson calls 'em the AGAtha chips. :-)

Agatha.  The Agatha chips...  Agatha Christie coming to mind... best
known as a mystery writer...

The mystery chips.  Yes, AGAtha is neat.  :)

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From: smcgerty@unix1.tcd.ie (Stephen John McGerty)
Subject: Re: Postscript support in OS , means what ??????????
Keywords: PS
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 12:32:47 GMT

In <1992Sep15.063633.26148@news.iastate.edu> barrett@iastate.edu (Marc N Barrett) writes:
>In article <mac1.716512668@Ra.MsState.Edu> mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema) writes:
>>
>>  OKay I am a novice. What does it mean when you that an OS fully
>>  supports Postscript  ????
>No, not at all.  the PostScript support is merely a PostScript printer 
>driver, which the Mac has had for six years. 

Perhaps they mean something a bit more advanced..
I hear that the NeXT uses PostScript for displaying _everything_.
Not just print-outs, but all on-screen text and graphics.
This allows you to rescale pretty much everything. Neat, really.
I know this would take rather a lot of processing power, but
who knows what the future might bring...

>>Mubashir.
>---
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: / | |/   smcgerty@unix1.tcd.ie          precede creation"       \\//  :
:.......................................................................:
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:57:15 EDT
From: <JBK4@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: A3000 dead?

Dark Grey - hardware ok
Lt   Grey - software ok
Red       - Bad ROM Checksum
Green     - Bad RAM
Blue      - Bad Custom Chips
Yellow    - Exception

That's what I've got, but nothing on white screens.

JK
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: szuerche@jarthur.claremont.edu (Stephan Zuercher)
Subject: Monitor Problems
Summary: The picture jitters
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 03:11:19 GMT

Okay, just to make sure we're on the same footing, I know what interlace
flicker looks like and although my problem looks somewhat similar, this is
definitely not interlace flicker.  I'm using an A3000 and 1950 monitor with
the de-interlacer on.

Basically what happens is the picture will jitter up and down a pixel at
irregular time intervals.  The effect is extremely annoying.  Also, about
45% of the first scanline flickers ALL the time.  I had a similar
problem about a year ago and after a month or so the picture on the monitor 
started rolling and no amount of fiddling with the v. hold control would fix
it.  I had that monitor replaced on Commodore's Gold Service program
and the problem went away until (you guessed it) two weeks after my Gold
Service number expired.  In effort to pin down the problem, I swapped my
monitor over to an IBM and hooked the IBM monitor to my Amiga.  My 1950
appeared to perform flawlessly on the IBM but the IBM monitor had the same
problem my Amiga did with the first scanline, although the picture DID NOT
jitter.  

Would I'd like to know is:  Has anyone else had this problem and gotten
rid of it?  What is the computer or monitor (or both) that was at fault?
And how much did it cost to fix?

--
Stephan Zuercher                  
                                  
szuerche@jarthur.claremont.edu    
Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: 4000
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 13:36:27 GMT

copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope) writes:

>Most users wont ever need anything more than 8 bit 4 channel sound.  Having
>said that, the new chipset has more than enough bandwidth and free timeslots
>for 16 channel 8 bit sound or 8 channel 16 bit sound.  Expect it.

I think most users *want* more than 8-bit sound.  Look at the way sound cards
sell on I*m's!  *Anybody* in any form of multimedia would want more audio
capability than what we have now!  C'mon, Amigas haven't sounded any better
than they did in 1985! 

>>The 4000 does have a high density floppy drive.  (880K/1.76MB)
>>I'm getting this right off the "original" press release.

>Yes it does, but it is a special mechanism,, costs twice as much as any other
>HD drive, and runs at half the speed of a real HD drive.  A new paula chip 
>would be nice.  Remember C= will neew future expansions to keep the ball 
>rolling.  (and the cash flowing.  new development like these cost $$$$$)

*sigh* Whatever happened to "Amiga: The computer with the most bang for your
buck"?

>True, but most people don't need better audio, especially when the new lower
>range machines come out with the same chipset.  The HD drives may be a problem,
>but they can sell the same mechanism to 3 million current owners. ($$$)

Again, I think we *do* need better audio.

>>>			Regards, Aurelius@cup.portal.com

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From: kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Jason Balicki (KodaK))
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: A2000 Jumpers?
Date: 7 Sep 92 06:02:55 GMT
Organization: You call this organized?

In article <Bu709L.6FA@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> paranoid@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (paranoid) writes:
>A friend of mine just got the 1 meg Agnus chip and installed it in his A2000.
>He has put in a switch for 1 meg chip <-> 512 fast/512 chip and wants to put
>in a switch for PAL/NTSC. Is there a jumper on the 2000 that does this? Which
>one? Are there other jumpers that do interesting thing on the 2000?

Jumper 101 will do this on a rev 6 motherboard, it's just a soldier blob, 
kinda hard to cut if you don't have a soldier bulb (but I managed it-- heat, 
flip, heat, flip :) As far as other interisting things, I only know that
changing other jumpers will make your reboot screen change nifty colors (and
not boot) 

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>Send e-mail to:  paranoid@mentor.cc.purdue.edu | ...And keep on thinking free!
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I really should read these things _the whole way through_ before I decide to 
respond, eh?  :)

--Jason Balicki    
kodak@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
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From: swebber@imladris.equinox.gen.nz (Stephen Webber)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.marketplace,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: Did you ever buy anything at...[BRIWALL]
Date: 6 Sep 92 14:27:28 +1200
Organization: Amiga Christchurch Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Steve Heller (music@moravian.edu) wrote:
>In <1992Sep1.192900.11080@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu> keithc@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Keith Christopher) writes:
>>I've bought from BRIWALL before. Actually I like the knowledge their staff
>>has. They know the Amiga.
>
>Problem with Briwall is they are generally over-priced and
>under-stocked. I've been told they keep relatively little in stock and
>will "special order" things on demand without necessarily telling you
>about it so you may have to wait longer for delivery (and which may
>explain why they charge more). I live near them and have dealt with
>them on 2-3 occasions strictly for software, cables, etc. and haven't
>had any problems but I've heard others complain about price and
>delivery.

Well, here in New Zealand its pretty hard to buy good hardware. Hence I
have purchased from Creative (nothing but trouble, personally) and BriWall
on several occasions. They (BriWall) know the Amiga and seem to be good at
advising the customer what status is on goods when asked (like if you
don't ask don't go blowing your trumpet _sort-of-thing_ when it doesn't
arrive within 5 days etc) and they (BriWall) nust be on the
drum-up-business trail because I just received a Thank You card from one
of the reps. You must consider this good service from a firm half way
around the world from where I am.

Of course this is just my opinion, cheers.

--
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Christchurch, NEW ZEALAND
Don't worry about tomorrow, I've been there!
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: prado@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Louis A. Prado)
Subject: GVP Tech Support E-Mail Address ?
Organization: Arizona State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:33:38 GMT

If you know GVP's tech support's E-Mail address, please let me know.

Lou Prado	EE  Undergrad   Arizona State Univ   prado@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu
					       	     auLOU@acvax.inre.asu.edu
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: mb@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Michael Beer)
Subject: Re: 1084 monitor problems.
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 23:15:15 GMT

csc@amiganet.chi.il.us (Chris Clarizio) writes:

>In article <Bu0n15.9Kn@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu>,
>pfferrei@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Ferreira) writes:
>>
>>I seem to recently be getting a problem with my 1084 monitor.  I believe
>>it is a problem with all the monitors and can be fixed.  Every once in a 
>>while the screen flickers off, but by tapping the monitor, the display can
>>be returned.  It seems that there is some kind of short circuit occuring in
>>the monitor because of some contact or arcing.  
>>
>>Does anyone know what I am talking about? How can I fix this?
>>
>>
>>+    Paulo F. Ferreira                        + University of Waterloo +  
>>+ email: pfferrei@undergrad.math.UWaterloo.ca +    Waterloo, Canada    +

>I think I know what you're talking about. Mine did the same thing. Every time
>the monitor flickered off a very high pitched whine (some people can't hear
>this) came from the monitor. The noise went away and the screen came back if I
>tapped on the side. The problem only got worse until I could no longer get the
>monitor to stay on for any length of time. 

>I'm afraid I don't know how to permanently fix it. My only advice would be to
>start saving your money. If you do figure out what went wrong and how to fix
>it, please post or E-mail the solution to me since my old 1084 is still sitting
>around somewhere.

It's the flyback transformator. One of the four solder joints that fix it to
the board is cracked. You have to resolder it (take care of the high voltage!).

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Subject: Why can't I hook two monitors to my A3000?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 08:26:26 GMT

I am having a problem connecting two monitors to my A3000.  What I would
like to do is connect up one to the 23 pin port and one to the 15 pin 
port.  This doesn't seem to work.

I would like to, say, have a genlock or framegrabber use the 15 pin port
and still have another monitor using the flicker-fixer.

Anyone have any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks
keith
From: ewilts@galaxy.gov.bc.ca (Ed Wilts)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: RAM chips and the A3000
Date: 5 Sep 92 03:35:13 GMT
Reply-To: EWILTS@GALAXY.GOV.BC.CA
Organization: BC Systems Corporation

In article <34903@cbmvax.commodore.com>, daveh@cbmvax.commodore.com (Dave Haynie) writes:
> 
> The basic, power-up mode is a simple, ordinary cycle by cycle RAM control mode.
> This works with page-mode, nybble-mode, or static column memories (though you
> aren't likely to find nybble mode parts in "x4" packages).  The other two modes
> require static colum parts (eg, they are both "static column" modes).  The mode
> that works it Burst, and you get this automatically if the OS detects static
> column memory.  This is typical 68030 burst support, you can get four longwords
> prefetched into cache in 11 cycles, rather than the 20 cycles it would take
> in the basic mode.  But it's software dependent -- there's no guarantee that 
> all of these longwords are going to be used, this is a prefetch to the cache,
> not under direct processor control.  So rather than a 50% speedup, it tends to
> average out at around 20%.

CPU reports two different burst modes - instruction and data.  What does it
really mean when it says that I have instr cache and burst both on and data
cache on but data burst off?  Does this mean that it's detected page mode
memories? I've got 2 MB chip and 2 MB fast but don't know if my fast ram is
page-mode or static column and haven't opened the system up to read the part
numbers.

> Dave Haynie Commodore-Amiga (Amiga 3000) "The Crew That Never Rests"
>    {uunet|pyramid|rutgers}!cbmvax!daveh      BIX: hazy
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware,comp.sys.amiga.misc
From: copes@cs.curtin.edu.au (Simon Cope)
Subject: Re: RAM chips and the A3000
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 05:36:15 GMT

mbuc1@cs.aukuni.ac.nz (Matthew Richard     Buchanan       ) writes:

>OOOPS, my logic was slightly off here (not my maths). I have since been
>informed of the error of my ways - this should have read 2 chips per meg.
>That gives 8 chips to make up my 4 meg, which sounds better not to mention
>cheaper. Say, around US$120 for 4 meg (right?). I can live with that.

>see ya,
>Matt.

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>******************************************************************************* 
Yep, thats right.  Over in oz, 4 megs cost me A$240, and that was a bargain.  
Thats 1Mx4 parts, static colum, 8 chips worth.  People in the US don't know
how lucky they are.....

--
copes@cs.curtin.edu.au

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.hardware
From: charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV)
Subject: Re: 4000
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 02:38:23 GMT

mlelstv@specklec.mpifr-bonn.mpg.de (Michael van Elst) writes:

>In <1992Sep14.133832.21463@hubcap.clemson.edu> charlet@hubcap.clemson.edu (Charles E "Rick" Taylor IV) writes:

>>What about the home/small business segment.  Do they have to buy IBMs? :)

>The home/small business people buying IBMs and SoundBlasters are stuck
>with limited 8bit sound.

How about the SoundBlaster Pro's ?  Are they 8-bit?  (A question...)

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