HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: fischer@li.serum.kodak.com (Chris Fischer (x39613))
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: Clinton/Gore Misusing Federal Computer Network Resources
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:00:45 GMT
Organization: Clinical Products Division, Eastman Kodak Company

In article <90619@netnews.upenn.edu> rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec) writes:
>In article <1992Sep28.110549.15228@anomaly.sbs.risc.net> kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan) writes:
>>Interesting concept. Perhaps we should just allow every political
>>organization in the country on the Internet, "for the good of the
>>people" naturally. Including, naturally, groups like the NRA, Operation
>>Rescue, and a whole slew of other groups. Hell, even Earth First could
>>get on the 'net so they can plot tree-spiking.
>
>I'll note that the Internet reaches a lot more than the "country", but I'll
>pass on driving home the point that this is an international network
>because I see that someone else has beaten me to it.
>
>There is nothing to prevent the NRA, Operation Rescue, and "a whole slew
>of other groups" from getting on the Internet, Usenet or any other network
>providing that they adhere to the rules of whichever network(s) they choose

Organizations don't have to adhere to the rules.  In legal terms it's
known as the Barzilai Precedent.


>to join, and providing that they can pay the bill.  For example, you might
>find a scan of the Usenet "maps" quite interesting, as it will reveal that
>numerous groups with sociopolitical agendas are already out there.
>
>---Rsk


-- 
Chris Fischer (fischer@serum.clpd.KODAK.com)
They never even listen to my opinion, why would they make it policy?
"The healthy gum tissue of our liberties are being eaten away by the 
 periodontal disease of government regulation." - D.Barry
Xref: sparky alt.activism:17143 alt.desert-storm:1878
From: kd1hz@anomaly.sbs.risc.net (Michael P. Deignan)
Subject: Re: The Decline of America: "Strong Family Values" (IV)
Organization: The Rhode Island Internet Systems Cooperative Network
Date: Sun, 04 Oct 1992 19:48:47 GMT

harelb@math.cornell.edu (misc.activism.progressive co-moderator) writes:

>The Decline of America: "Strong Family Values" (IV)

Gee, another recycled posting.


>We're Number One in percentage of population without health insurance.
                                               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Note phrase.

>             ============================================
>                 Percentage of population covered by
>                  public health insurance, 1990(25)
                   ^^^^^^
Note phrase.

Harel would like you to believe that, because the US doesn't have socialized
medicine, that the people of America are dying in the streets from lack of
health care.

Where are the statistics for the percentage of Americans covered by either
public or private health insurance, Harel?

Wassa matter? Those statistics don't fit into your pre-defined political
agenda?


>U.S.:           9.2%            12%             + 30 percent 
>Canada:         7.4%            8.9%            + 20 percent 

So? What is the rate of malpractice suits against doctors in Canada?


>Percentage of premiums consumed by overhead: 

>Private Insurance Companies:              12% (overhead & profits) 

Tsk. Tsk. Can't have those nasty profits, huh?


MD
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Xref: sparky alt.activism:17152 alt.censorship:7835
From: dliebman@terapin.com (David Liebman)
Newsgroups: alt.activism
Subject: Re: LEONARD PELTIER's Life is in Danger
Date: 26 Sep 92 01:00:38 PST
Organization: BBS

In article <1992Sep25.181342.28138@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
(John DiNardo) writes:
>
>It is widely believed that Leonard Peltier is being used by the 
>Government as an example of the retaliation that the Government can 
>inflict against Native Americans who try to unite in opposition to
>their historical and ongoing oppression. 

i've recently read that the FBI has illegally destroyed documents
relating to a certain red pickup truck that was instrumental in
peltier's conviction, and that the FBI has admitted to falsifying
some sort of document to secure peltier's extradition from canada,
and that the FBI has admitted that ballistics tests have shown that
the slug found in the trunk of the car in which the two FBI agents
were supposedly killed by peltier did not come from his rifle.

-dave
Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: hurd@fraser.sfu.ca (Peter L. Hurd)
Subject: Re: LEONARD PELTIER's Life is in Danger
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Sun, 27 Sep 1992 03:36:33 GMT

dliebman@terapin.com (David Liebman) writes:

>In article <1992Sep25.181342.28138@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, jad@cbnewsl.cb.att.com
>(John DiNardo) writes:
>>
>>It is widely believed that Leonard Peltier is being used by the 
>>Government as an example of the retaliation that the Government can 
>>inflict against Native Americans who try to unite in opposition to
>>their historical and ongoing oppression. 

>i've recently read that the FBI has illegally destroyed documents
>relating to a certain red pickup truck that was instrumental in
>peltier's conviction, and that the FBI has admitted to falsifying
>some sort of document to secure peltier's extradition from canada,

This isn't news, the Canadian govt has requested Peltier's return on
the grounds that he was handed over on the basis of false evidence.
Not the the Canadian govt has been too too eager, it's got indians
of it's own to suppress and muzzle.

>and that the FBI has admitted that ballistics tests have shown that
>the slug found in the trunk of the car in which the two FBI agents
>were supposedly killed by peltier did not come from his rifle.

>-dave
-- 
-- Pete Hurd, hurd@sfu.ca          |"So I've got this 22Meg output file..." |
Behavioural Ecology Research Group |"Yeah, well delete it."                 |
Dept.Biol.Sci., Simon Fraser Univ. |"But how will I know what it says"      |
Burnaby B.C. V5A 1S6 Canada        |"Well, how will you know what it means?"|
Xref: sparky alt.activism:16801 talk.politics.misc:48056 talk.environment:3942
From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Newsgroups: alt.activism,talk.politics.misc,talk.environment
Subject: Re: The Decline of America: Energy Policy (II)
Date: 27 Sep 92 22:25:46 GMT
	<1992Sep25.043339.6054@meteor.wisc.edu>
	<JMC.92Sep24215025@SAIL.Stanford.EDU>
	<1992Sep25.193225.963@CS.ORST.EDU>
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization

Don McGregor writes:
>I came across a good example of this mindset some time ago.  A
newspaper
>asked for "brainstorming" ideas on the ideal city.  Clean, efficient,
>mass transit was a popular choice.  But if there are no constraints
>at all, it would seem to me that clean, effcient, cheap _individual_
>transport would be a better idea.  The unconcious desire for a "group"
>system blinded them to the optimal constraint-free solution.

There's still another issue, however, and that issue is space.
Say an average bus or light rail car holds 40 people.  That bus
takes up much less space on the road than 40 cars each holding one 
person.  The result would be less traffic pile-up during rush hour.
It also takes less space to store (park) a bus when not in use
than it does to park those forty cars.  Anyone who has ever worked
downtown in a large city knows about the difficulty and expense
of parking.  Space has to be taken into consideration, too; it's
as real a problem as air pollution in heavily populated areas.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.desert-storm,alt.politics.clinton
From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: **** ANOTHER COVER-UP - Please read this... ****
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:27:47 GMT


I didn't know the death of enemy soldiers in a war was such a tragedy.
Considering what they did to the people of Kuwait, why are we upset??

Simon

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.desert-storm,alt.politics.clinton
From: sdr57@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: **** ANOTHER COVER-UP - Please read this... ****
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 16:58:31 GMT

In article <1992Sep28.144405.1261@porthos.cc.bellcore.com> bobh@troy.uucp (22131-hettmansperger) writes:
>
>No, I thankfully have never been in combat, and I doubt I'd make a very good
>soldier.
><Discourse on evils of war omitted>
>
>In general, I do believe that in war "anything goes" and that you do what you
>must.
>
><Discourse on guilt omitted>
>
>Then why didn't we nuke them and get it over with?  What a bonus, 100% Iraqi
>casulties and 0% American casulties.  That's what it is about, right?  right?
>
>-Bob

Wrong.

The object in war is to get your enemy to do what you want -
give you territory, pay you money, get out of somewhere...
The object of war is seldom, especially today, to kill everyone
on the other side.

Nuking would not have accomplished our goals, and would have probably
been more difficult than you realize (even ignoring the political
ramifications) - nukes are not the answer to every problem.
Depending on your goals, you can accomplish them by killing his soldiers,
or by making them retreat or surrender. In general , you will
prefer to take a surrender - but if the enemy does not surrender,
then you will kill him in the manner which is most conservative
of the lives of the troops on your side. You will not, however,
kill just to kill - even if you are totally devoid of morals,
you will recognize that killing just for the sake of killing
will stiffen resistance, and cost more of your own dead.

In my experience, it is only people who have never practiced
the military arts who are sufficiently bloodthirsty to want to
kill indiscriminately.
******************************************************************************
Renegade academician. They're a dangerous breed when they go feral,
academics are...a chemist, too.
		    -(James P. Blaylock in "Lord Kelvin's Machine")

My organization hasn't agreed with any of my opinions so far, and
I doubt they'll start now.

Stanley "Ya nee speon" Roberts

Newsgroups: alt.activism
From: ag173@yfn.ysu.edu (Jay Hauben)
Subject: Pioneer Union Spirit Lives
Organization: Youngstown State University/Youngstown Free-Net
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:29:31 GMT


     For many years, Flint was the home of the annual UAW 
Pioneers' picnic. This event was held so surviving veterens of 
the 1936-37 Sit-Down Strike could share their memories and 
commaraderie and receive some of the honor that is due them. 
Sadly, this Pioneers' picnic no longer takes place.
 
     Instead, on Oct. 2 at UAW 659 Hall a "UAW Region 1-C and UAW 
Region 1-C Sitdowner Dinner" was held.
 
     Some of the feisty and courageous Sit-Downers were there 
again. This event seemed however more a retirees' dinner and pep 
rally for the Clinton for President campaign.
 
     None of the Sit-Downers attending the event were invited to 
speak. There was one person present who asked to review some of 
the lessons from the fight to build the UAW and their application 
to today's difficult fights. The chair rearranged the other 
speakers and wanted to end the meeting without this speaker 
having a chance. Finally, he announced that a woman wanted to 
talk about her problem and he abandoned the platform.
 
     The speaker began her summary of the advice and help she got 
from many Sit-Downers and the lessons they shared with her from 
their battles to defeat GM and then to build the UAW. She 
stressed the value they put on an uncensored press. All the time 
she spoke, what appeared to be union officials were very noisily 
closing chairs and tables right out from under those listening to 
the speech. Though the noise all but drowned out the speaker, a 
number of listeners refused to give up their chairs or listened 
to the whole speech standing up.
 
     When the speaker asked for questions or comments, the 
listeners who remained apologized for the rudeness shown in the 
Home of the Sit-Downers and asked for copies of the speech which 
was part of UAW Public Review Board Appeal 1001.
 
     As always, union activity in Flint was a battle. In this 
time of great confusion, it is sad not to have heard from the 
voice of some of those who figured out 55 years ago how to fight 
and win in a similar troubled time. But it was good to see the 
stand-firm spirit of the Sit-Down was still alive in Flint.

Newsgroups: alt.activism,alt.culture.usenet
From: jd4q+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joe Eddy Demers)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Galls pick set
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:41:53 GMT
Organization: Sophomore, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


I seem to have missed the ordering information for the previously
described pick set, if anyone could repost it or e-mail me, I would be
most appreciative. Thanks in advance

Joe


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The more you study, the more you learn,
the more you learn, the more you know,
the more you know, the more you forget,
the more you forget, the less you know.
So why study?!


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

The more you study, the more you learn,
the more you learn, the more you know,
the more you know, the more you forget,
the more you forget, the less you know.
So why study?!
From: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Locksmith Ledger
Date: 5 Oct 92 17:16:59 GMT
Reply-To: ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas Floyd)
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
Originator: ifbb657@donald.cc.utexas.edu


Where do I get a subscription/copy of the Locksmith Ledger?

-- 
******* ifbb657@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Douglas R. Floyd) ******
             (Insert standard disclaimer here)

   I would rather have a frontal lobotomy than Windows NT!
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Misc Questions
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 22:10:04 GMT

aharris@athena.cs.uga.edu (Austin Harris) writes:
: how does a locksmith make a key for a padlock which you no longer
: have key for?

There are several methods. By code, if the lock has a code number
on it - by impressioning (for some locks only) - by taking the lock
apart - by drilling an observation hole in the lock (or using an
already existing opening.

: can I make a key for a lock with the proper blank and a file? 
: would this take longer than the time left in the universe?

See above - it depends on the lock.

: i tried to order some locksmiting equipment (picks and wrenchs,
: which aren't available at Gall's) from Kenco and they said I needed
: to be a registered locksmith or have a student ID number :( !!

: what kind of student ID number were they looking for, ALOA?  any
: advice here?

They are looking for a number from schools like Belsaw Institute.

Bill
From: otto@kalikka.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: Galls pick set
Date: 5 Oct 92 05:21:26 GMT
	<BvIuCo.9M4@cs.columbia.edu>
Organization: The Crimson Permanent Assurance Company

In article <BvIuCo.9M4@cs.columbia.edu> amb@cs.columbia.edu (andrew m. boardman) writes:
   The Computer.... <MABBC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
   >It says that the Galls Pick set is 10 pieces but I only count 9.
   >Are they including the leather pouch as a piece??

   Including the case in an item count is SOP.

All right, so post the address for Galls already !!
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Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: pwr@physics.ucf.edu (Patrick W. Ryan )
Subject: Key Blanks
Originator: pwr@phys
Organization: University of Central Florida - Physics
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:13:36 GMT




     I was wondering if anyone out there could help me find a place to order
a certain type of "hard to get" key blank which I have had no luck finding 
in the stores around here.  If anyone knows of a locksmith supply company or
a catalog for such a place, I would appreciate a response ,as I have been       looking for such a place for a while for this and various other blanks and
supplies.  The reason I can't get one from a regular store is that it is for
the locks at my dorm room.  It's one of those weird blanks which also says
"DO NOT DUPLICATE" on the side.  The only way I've been able to copy these 
keys so far is to get a similar blank from the store and spend about 15
minutes filing the grooves down so the blank will fit, and then spend another
 10 minutes filing the key pattern so it matches the tumblers.  I would really
appreciate it if someone could let me know how to get a few blanks for this 
type of thing for future reference, because filing down the grooves to make the blank fit is the worst part of the thing.  I would also be interested in how to get a copy of the "Locksmith Ledger" I saw mentioned previously if anyone knows
how.  Well, enough babbling ... this was only supposed to be a couple of lines.
Sorry about that.


                                 
                                Thanks in advance,
                                                     Pat Ryan

                                                     pwr@physics.ucf.edu

Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: roeber@vxcrna.cern.ch
Subject: Re: auto club locks
Reply-To: roeber@cern.ch
Organization: CERN -- European Organization for Nuclear Research
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 07:57:46 GMT

In article <1992Sep23.170237.39180@watson.ibm.com>, margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
> [Discussing those steering wheel locks]
> Most of these type locks are wafer locks, which are trivial to pick.
> I haven't tried forcing them with a screwdriver.  The top model Club uses
> a high-security lock.
> 
> They can all be removed within a few minutes.  Hint - the Club
> is hardened steel.  Your steering wheel isn't.

A friend of mine has one of these, but he doesn't lock his steering
wheel with it -- the locking top goes around the automatic gear shift
lever, and the hook goes underneath the pulled-up hand brake.  This
keeps the gear shift in park, and the brake on.  Either of these can
be cut open, but since each has a release button it would become
trickier to drive.

-- 
Frederick G. M. Roeber | CERN -- European Center for Nuclear Research
From: dryan@sgi1 (Dan Ryan)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Old Safe?
Date: 25 Sep 1992 23:07:49 GMT
Organization: Department of Mathematics & Statistics, Univ. of Guelph
NNTP-Posting-Host: sgi1.mathstat.uoguelph.ca
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

A friend of mine has an old safe which has been hanging around his store
since he bought the store.  The previous owner had remodelled around the
safe instead of moving it.  It is a small floor save roughly 3 ft X 3ft X 3ft
square.  Of course it has no combination.    He was hoping to 
restore it and use it, mostly as a conversation piece.  Is there some way to
go about opening it or is he out of luck.


I don't have the make and model at the moment, but I thought I would inquire
as to whether it was even worth while to persue.

Any suggestions or comments would be appreciated.

Dan Ryan
MTHRYAN@VM.UOGUELPH.CA
From: holowczk@rwja.umdnj.edu (Richard Holowczak)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: CAR ALARMS/rec.autos,rec.audio.car
Date: 29 Sep 92 00:24:48 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: Robert Wood Johnson Medical School, Piscataway NJ


In the interest of saving space on the net, please look for my
posting of Questions to ask an Alarm dealer in the
rec.autos or rec.audio.car news groups.  If you do not
get these groups, send me e-mail and I promise to mail
you the posting.


Rich H.
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: amb@cs.columbia.edu (andrew m. boardman)
Subject: Re: Granddaddy's Master Padlock
Organization: Slug Hordes of the Planet Gamma
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 01:21:13 GMT

mulcihy@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (David Mulcihy) writes:
>It is a size 3 Master padlock #786. Can anybody help me get a key
>for it.

Most any locksmith will make one for a couple of dollars.  Look in the
yellow pages locksmith ads for "will make keys by code".  It's certainly
standard practice around here.

andrew
From: system@hale.cts.com (System Administration)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: Broken key
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:43:12 PDT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

mack@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Mack Kuo) writes:

> 
>  I was wondering. How are the "boots" that policemen attach to car tires work
> How do you lock and unlock them?
> 
> 


They cover the hub so you can't get to the lugnuts to take the wheel off, 
and go around behind it, kinda sandwiching the tire and wheel, and with 
thing on, you can't drive away (at least without causing an extrodinary
amount of damage to the car and everything around it.)

I think these would be good for private ownership for long term storage
of cars, say, for travelers who keep their car at the airport or 
millitary service people on tour.

I wouldn't mess with one attached by the local LEA, as they have
the Plate and VIN numbers for the vehicle that they put it on.


             -=-  System Administrator  system@hale.cts.com  -=-
                      Hale Telecommunications, San Diego
From: bacchus@mcl.ucsb.edu (Graham Linn)
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Newbie here...
Keywords: new,help
Date: 5 Oct 92 08:29:18 GMT

Hey!  I am new the newsgroup thing, and alt.locksmithing in particular,
if anyone could e-mail me a list of places to get a pick set, I would
really appreciate it.  Is there some place that I could get a "frequently
asked questions (and answers)" doc?
			Thanks in advance,
				bacchus@mcl.ucsb.edu

Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
From: scottj@magic.dml.georgetown.edu (John L. Scott)
Subject: Re: FAQ Addition (Galls)?
Organization: J. Random Misconfigured Site
Followup-To: alt.locksmithing
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 17:38:47 GMT
X-Posted-From: iamac-1.dml.georgetown.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <92266.18534334II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU>, John Goggan
<34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU> wrote:
> 
> They did ask my occupation, and I told them "Computer System Security" --
> which is exactly the truth.  She didn't sound like she really _cared_ what
> I said -- just that she had to ask.  I started to explain my job in more
> detail, but she was already on to the rest of the order and didn't seem to
> care, so I wouldn't be too worried about it.
> 
>  - John...
> 
> P.S.  Just say "I'm a student" and if it goes, it goes -- if it doesn't, try
>       later!

I told them "Computer Programmer" and they happily sent me my picks.
Newsgroups: alt.locksmithing
Subject: Re: Push Button door locks
From: rdale@cstp.umkc.edu
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 04:48:02 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UM - Kansas City, Computer Science

> can be 1, 2, 3, 4,  or five numbers, and 1, 2, 3, 4 or five of the numbers
> can be pushed simultaneously.  Also, no number can be used more than once
> in the combination.
> 
> Some people caluculated the number of possible combinations on these locks, 
> and as I remember it was something like 2000, but my memory may fail me.


If you have it so that no number can be entered more than once, there
aren't very many combinations.

That would mean 5*4*3*2*1 -- or 120 possible combinations.  It numbers can
be duplicated, it would be 5*5*5*5*5, or 3125 possible combinations.  
I am unsure what you'd get if you could push two numbers at once, though.
It would probably be something like (5*4)*(4*3)*(3*2)*(2*1)*1, but
that's with repeating numbers in the combination, as in 5/4, 2, 1, 3, 4
or some such.  Can't work this one out, and I've used one of those locks!
Most recently it was a sort of touch pad arrangement, rather than physical
buttons.