From: jmfuchs@unix.amherst.edu (jesse fuchs)
Subject: Re: Educational Techniques(was Re: Sexuality)
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Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 12:22:40 GMT

Greg Bradt aka The Lensman (greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com) wrote:
> In article <dlhanson.31.726451977@nap.amoco.com> David L. Hanson,
> dlhanson@nap.amoco.com writes:
> >I too have read studies (I don't have the sources, sorry) that show that
> >drug education programs (such as DARE) increase drug use, and sex education
> >programs increases fornication. 
> 
> This is as shaky as a one legged table.  Yes, drug and sex education
> programs are in place and yes, drug and sexual activity are increasing.  To
> suggest that one causes (or even contributes to) the other is an unjustified
> leap of logic.
> 
> >IF parents taught their children
> >moral values instead of heathen relativism AND IF the parents shelter their
> >children, there wouldn't be a problem to talk about.
> 
> I don't know if you've noticed, but we are moving toward an information
> based society/economy.  You just =can't= hide information from people in
> such an environment, as much as you might wish to do so, without moving into
> a cave and cutting yourself off from the outside world.
> 
> Given that unavoidable reality, it is =much= better to get the =best=
> available information to our children regarding things like drug use and
> sex, so that if and when they decide to get involved with them, they can do
> so in a way that has as little harmful consequences as possible.
	I can't agree with this more. Mr. Hanson, if he is as zealous as he 
sounds, should seriously consider joining an Amish community or some other 
fairly self-sufficient group that voluntary has cut itself off from the 
information society. It would be far better, and make much more sense, for him
to close himself off from society, than to try to close down society itself.
> 
> >It is just that a
> >large number of people don't get the connection between sin and its 
> >consequences.
> 
> Sin isn't and never will be the issue.  People must understand the
> concequences of =actions=!  That is what education is all about.
> 
> >Adult examples of the kind of seared consciences this kind of
> >child rearing produces are becoming more and more common it seems.
> 
> We have similar problems with those who prefer to base their lives on
> religious dogma (i.e. "sin") which blinds them to the realities of the world
> around them.
	Exactly. Personally, I like sex. I think everyone should have it, a 
whole bunch, with whoever they want. As long as they take the proper 
precautions, there is no physical danger (or, at least, no more than that 
inherent in most daily activities,) and, in fact, women who have regular sex
have been shown to suffer less cramps and other such painful stuff. As for the
emotional danger, I would say that I believe that certain people are not 
emotionally mature enough, in my opinion, to handle sex. Hopefully, they would
wait until they felt they were...but if they don't, well, live and learn. And
anyway, there would be little problem with "emotional maturity" if there wasn't
a whole bizarre Christian guilt/power thing that makes people feel guilty about
their own natural urges, and generally has the power to complicate and corrupt
what is, in essences, a really fun thing.
> 
> Greg Bradt aka ()The Lensman()
> 
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