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From: hancock@inland.com (Tom Hancock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Rock-a-Doodle - reviews?
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:05:59 GMT
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1992Apr7.221828.28954@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, klein@kira.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein) writes:
> Last weekend, I caught the end of Siskel and Ebert, who gave "two thumbs
> WAY down" for Rock-A-Doodle, calling it "violent and depressing".
> 
> Did anyone see the whole review?  I happen to LIKE violent and depressing
> cartoons, but I haven't head much good about this one.
> -- 
> Jeff Klein                  | "One of you is a Charlie Brown mutant,
>                             |  and the other has a hand growing out  
> klein@kira.egr.msu.edu      |  of his(?) head!" - Blue Bunny

	Here is a short review which I wrote for my company's VAXNOTES movie
conference:

*************
	_Rock-a-Doodle_ is the latest animated movie from Don Bluth (_An
American Tail_, _Land Before Time_).  The story is a re-telling of the old
Chanticleer fable.
	This is one of those movies that tries to be several things and doesn't
quite succeed in any of them.  It's a childrens fantasy/adventure, a gentle
satire on the Las Vegas show-biz scene, and a satire/tribute to Elvis Presley.
The animated story is also woven around a live-action plot involving a small boy
and his farm family.  I'm afraid that this might cause the real young to be
frightened or confused and the older children (and adults) to go "Huh?".
	The animation is very well done, but nothing fantastic.  The music is
excellent but not showstopping.  The adults will enjoy the pokes at the Las
Vegas show-biz and the parody of Elvis and the kids will like the fantasy
adventure.  It's definitly worth the price of admission, but don't go expecting
another _Beauty and the Beast_. 

*************

	That about sez it for me.

					Tom
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From: alberti@ux.acs.umn.edu (Timothy Fay)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: The Littles
Keywords: Littles
Date: 8 Apr 92 06:25:12 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Revolutionary Anarchist Bowling League

In <1992Apr7.231423.1871@news.Hawaii.Edu> anash@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Dana Uehara c/o Andrew Nash) writes:

>The series was on for about a couple of seasons on ABC, after which it no
>longer aired.  Does anyone know if it aired anywhere else?  "Enquiring minds
>want to know..." ;-)

The Family Channel shows it weekday mornings at 7:30am CDT.

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From: arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: Chip And Gadget To Have A Baby On RR
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 18:59:42 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.112408.27538@cas.org>, lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
> In article <1992Apr06.061124.17146@NeoSoft.com> arielle@NeoSoft.com (Stephanie da Silva) writes:
> :They are currently working on this fall's Saturday morning
> :line-up for Darkwing and after that 13 is completed, they'll do another 13
> :Darkwing episodes for next year.
> :THEN no more Darkwing episodes will be made.
> 
> As I said - no more of the Disney Afternoon episodes.  There are new
> episodes being made for ABC - but I have yet to see any sign that these
> episodes will ever make it to the afternoon stripings.

From what I understood, the current 13 on ABC now will be recycled into
the Disney Afternoon next fall and be replaced by the a new set of
13 episodes.
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From: IK80014@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Andrew Paradis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Animation Texts
Date: 12 Apr 92 19:05:29 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System


   I am looking for some texts to help me along in my
animation.  Speciffically, I'm looking for instruction
on special effects, various methods of movement, and
basic "tips & techniques".  I'm still relatively new
to both animation and this news group, but I'll take any
suggestions, no matter how technical or advanced.
   Also, any suggestions on decent effect and animation
software would be very helpful, excluding Autodesk's
Animator.  For what it's worth, I use a 386/33 PC and will
have a digitizing tablet within the month.  I also have
access to Macs, so please don't limit suggestions to only
PC and compatibles.  Thanks.
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From: ncc1701@madoka.its.rpi.edu (Mark O. Chadwick)
Subject: Re: Secret of Nimh (WAS: Re: Rock-a-Doodle - reviews?)
Keywords: RaD
Reply-To: ncc1701@acm.rpi.edu
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 14:02:24 GMT

umcho000@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Connie Cho) writes:

>I loved SoN until the last fifteen minutes. Then it totally
>lost it, and me. In fact, I don't like the movie in general because
>I was so disappointed in the movie. What the hell happened with 
>Mrs. Brisby's gallant soldier? (forgot his name) IT was such a
> ... [rest deleted]

Hmm...

I had a serious problem with the overall theme of the movie, which was
different from the original book.  In the movie, as you know, there was 
a large focus on "magic," which is okay if that's the way the book went.
But the rats in the book were a much more sophistocated bunch, and everything
they did was all science & tech.

It's because of this MAJOR discrepancy that I didn't like the movie as
much as I liked the book.  However, taken for itself, the movie was quite
good, despite what I would call a "Disney-Magic" type of ending.

By the way, if you haven't read the book, you gotta read it!  It's really
good!  I wish I could find myself another copy...my first one seems to 
have gone the way of the rats :-(  (disappeared, that is)

-Mark

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Date:         Mon, 06 Apr 92 10:29:30 CST
From:         dan <DANW@WUVMD>
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:         Looking for Eighth-Man
Newsgroups:   rec.arts.animation



When I was growing up I remember a cartoon called Eigth Man. I
recall that it was about a robot/android spy.
At about the same time I think there was another cartoon about
a "child" android super-hero.

Does anyone else remember these?  Does anyone know where I might
be able to get tapes of either of these?

danw@wuvmd.wustl.edu
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From: chris@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Jacobson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: TMNT 'toon voices/episode list
Date: 9 Apr 92 18:25:02 GMT
Article-I.D.: orbit.7430
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

anash@uhunix.uhcc.hawaii.edu (Dana Uehara c/o Andrew Nash) writes:
>Does anyone have a cast/episode list for the TMNT cartoon series?  I posted a
>similar question to rec.arts.animation some time ago and got a few responses.
>So far I have:
>
>Raphael:  Rob Paulsen
>Shredder:  Jim Cummings
>Donatello:  either Cam Clarke or Barry Gordon (got two responses for this one)
>
>I'm pretty sure that Tress MacNeille is either April or Irma, but I don't know
>which.  As far as the others, I have no idea...
>
>I have no episode guide to the series and would appreciate any help there.
>Feel free to post and/or Email.
>
>Thanks!

The voices that I know are:

Michaelango:  Townsend Coleman          Leonardo:  Cam Clarke
  Donatello:  Barry Gordon                Raphel:  Rob Paulsen
   Shredder:  Jim Cummings

I think Tress MacNeille does April, but I'm not sure.

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From: rsteele@girtab.usc.edu (Richard Steele)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Cool World
Date: 16 Apr 1992 20:41:41 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: girtab.usc.edu

At a recent convention at the Shrine auditorium in L.A. a preview of Cool Worldwas shone and Ralph Bakshi was on hand to answer questions.  In the film Cool
World an animator is sucked into a world where the characters he has been 
drawing come to life.  He also discovers that a female character he has drawn
seems to have a romantic interest in him. (Voice and laiter live action by Kim Bassinger).  You see to leave the world of Cool World an animated character has to "Make It" with a human.  Kim Bassingers character aparently does just this
as she becomes real in the second half of the movie.  This is all I know about
the plot as what i saw at the convention was a "Work in progress" tape before
final editing and sound was added.  But from what I have seen i would say the 
film is definetely worth seeing.
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From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: Robin Hood (was Re: Could Disney do a human-only animation?)
Date: 12 Apr 92 00:53:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: cancun.rdippold.703039994
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

wbarnes@sura.net (Bill Barnes) writes:
>Beats me, I loved it too.  It was - and in many ways still is - my favorite
>Disney movie.  I agree on basically all counts: I liked the art style myself
>(even the scenary you didn't care for) and I felt the animation was smoother
>than The Little Mermaid's.  The fox made a better Robin Hood than Costner
>ever could too, although I will give Mary Elizabeth Mastrinomo(sp?) credit
>for being more than the typical damsel in distress (except for the end 8^P).
>I don't know why people don't care for Robin Hood either.  On the other
>hand, I liked Rescuers Down Under more than The Little Mermaid and (in some
>ways) Beauty and the Beast, so maybe I'm just weird...

>Any RH bashers out there?

I thought the background music sucked.  Not the actual numbers (The
King of England one was especially good), but the background crap that
ran at the tourney during the running scenes, etc.  But that's
probably just a function of the time at which it was made.  Everything
else I liked.
-- 
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From: CLINDSAY@vma.cc.nd.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation,rec.arts.disney
Subject: Re: VOTE TOON '92 (REPOST)
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:33:58 GMT
 <1992Apr7.015617.15461@oz.plymouth.edu> <92098.113003CLINDSAY@vma.cc.nd.edu>
 <1992Apr8.120716.10542@oz.plymouth.edu>

EEK!  Did I say Belle for Secty of Labor?!?  I meant Education!!!
Cathy
From: jdeitch@umiami.ir.miami.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Wanted : List of Shorts on Videotape
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:26:07 EDT
Organization: Univ of Miami IR

I'm looking for a list of what cartoon shorts are on what video tapes :

ie: the Looney Tunes Golden Jubilee, Salute to Chuck Jones, etc.

Any hints ?

- Jonathan 
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From: andrewm@IRIS.bio.uts.EDU.AU (Andrew Mears)
Subject: Animation Software
Organization: University of Technology, Sydney, Australia
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 07:20:19 GMT
Summary: newly interested person seeks information on available animation softwa
Keywords: animation software sg

I have recently become interested in animation and am trying to find out
what software is available for this purpose. I have access to PCs, macs
and even a silicon graphics machine (8bits graphics plane). 

Can any one recommend suitable software that will not only permit the
animation of composed 2D images but also mathematical models and 
surface data to produce motion in 3D etc....

Please email.

Thanks in advance, any help appreciated, freeware desired

Andrew Mears
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From: palomb@boulder.Colorado.EDU (Anthony Palombella)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: More Animation News on "Entertainment Tonight"
Keywords: RaD Ferngully Nemo Bakshi Tom Jerry ET
Date: 8 Apr 92 17:51:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: beagle.palomb.702755480
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder

pochron@cat28.cs.wisc.edu (David Pochron) writes:


>   On "Entertainment Tonight," there was an interesting story on current and
>upcoming animated features.  Named features include:

>Bebe's kids:  Only showed a quick clip.  I couldn't tell much, except that it
>looks very non-Disneyesque.

	I once saw a stand up comedian do a routine about Bebe's kids.
(He pronounced it "bay-bay," ET pronounced it "bee-bee," but anyway...)
The routine involved his taking some friend's kids to Disneyland.  The kids
were hellions and said things like, "We's Bebe's kids!  We don't die,
we multiply!"  I really have no idea if there's a connection between the
animated feature and the standup routine, but I thought I'd mention it anyway.


				-- Tony

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now," it's, "He doesn't have to shoot *me* now."  Well, I say he DOES
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From: joshm@netlink.cts.com (Josh Mercer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Prince Valiant
Date: 13 Apr 92 09:23:34 GMT
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:

> 
>   I've noticed very little (read: no) conversation about _The Legend of Princ
> Valiant_ series on the Family Channel.  Although I realize not everyone gets
> this channel, I was wondering if anyone out there enjoys it as much as I do? 
> IMHO, it is the best serious (and current, i.e., still being made, not old 
> reruns) animated series on TV right now.  Anybody have any comments?
 
I like Valiant.  Not a lot, mind you, but there is nothing else on 
on mondays, so why not watch it?  I dunno what else to say about it.
It's okay but I don't consider it spectacular.

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From: walshm@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Matt 'MTM' Walsh)
Subject: wanted: REN & STIMPY epsisodes
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:37:48 GMT


I can't get alt.fan.ren-and-stimpy - or any newsgroup witth the
words ren or stimpy in them - so I'll try posting here with a quick request:

any R&S episdoes on tape!  I'll send VHS or money - or if you live in Ohio
near Columbus I can get the tapes from you.

Thanks!
mail responses to matt@walsh.dme.battelle.org


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From: geoffrey@cpsc.ucalgary.ca (Geoffrey Brandenburg)
Subject: Re: More Animation News on "Entertainment Tonight"
Keywords: RaD Ferngully Nemo Bakshi Tom Jerry ET
Organization: U. of Calgary Computer Science
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 04:28:56 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.045450.2322@daffy.cs.wisc.edu> pochron@cat28.cs.wisc.edu (David Pochron) writes:
>One final note:  ET showed a scene with a family of rabbits at a dinner
>table from some film that they didn't specifically name.  Looked interesting.
>Any idea what film that might be?  HISMV?

No, I don't remember any scene like that in HISMV.  Can you be more specific about 
the scene?  Describe the rabbits...
From: hancock@inland.com (Tom Hancock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: The Last Unicorn
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:38:42 GMT
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1992Apr12.160501.1@vaxb.acs.unt.edu>, ij59@vaxb.acs.unt.edu writes:
>   I just saw _The Last Unicorn_ for the first time on Friday, and it was
> fantastic!  I urge anyone who hasn't seen this movie to go rent it from your
> local video store right away.  (Or buy it; I've seen it as grocery stores for
>  $7)
> 
>    "...Huh?  Wait...I was dead!"
>                        -- Prince Lear, _The Last Unicorn_
>
	Hmm, guess I should see this again, as when I saw it when it was in
the theatre, I didn't like it at all.

	I liked the backgrounds and the characters' voices, but the acting was
very wooden; I never lost the impression that there were actors behind the
drawings -- the characters never became *real*.  The scenes with the Red Bull
were done very well, for the limited style of animation that the movie employed.
	I guess I never really liked the Rankin-Bass style of character design
(didja ever notice how *big* everyone's nose is?).
	Maybe my perception is clouded by the fact that I *loved* the book so
much.
					Tom

BTW, Peter Beagle wrote another book called "A Fine and Private Place" which
is very different from "The Last Unicorn" and very good.  I reccommend it to
your attention.

	All the above strickly MHO, of course.

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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: Rock-a-Doodle - reviews?
Organization: Turkey Hall
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 18:27:57 GMT

>     The film's main problem is its thin plot.  It has a kids audience far more
>in mind than "Secret of NIMH" or "Beauty and the Beast".  Ultimately though, I
>found enough about the film to enjoy it, but I'm not sure other netters would.
>I'd give about 2.5 to 3 stars.

I'd like to hear people's opinions on where it compares with the other Bluth
movies.  In particular, with All Dogs Go To Heaven.  Unfortunately, it seems
the Don Bluth movies are declining in quality....  After seeing the previews
for the movie, I'm not optimistic about this one breaking the downward curve,
but I wonder how people who have seen it feel...?

Anybody?  Anybody?
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From: neil@celia.UUCP (Neil Richmond)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: video animation?
Date: 12 Apr 92 00:18:18 GMT
Reply-To: celia!neil@usc.edu (Neil Richmond)
Organization: Rhythm & Hues, Inc., Hollywood

In article <1992Apr11.164727.100095@zeus.calpoly.edu> claudius@zeus.calpoly.edu (King_Claudius) writes:
 
>Um, if I'm not mistaken, most film [70mm, 35mm] is 24fps...and many of the
>B-rate animated movies only do 12fps.

Technically, you are wrong. Film is shot at 24fps, but may be animated with
any number of drawings in those 24 frames ie. 1-24 drawings per second.
However, it is very common to animate on " two`s ", which is 1 drawing for
every 2 frames for much animation and on 1`s for quick action where you would
loose the continuity of the action on twos. The Japanese were famous for doing
things on threes and fours, 3 or 4 frames per drawing, but now seem to do
things more on twos and threes.

neil

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From: forbes@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (scott.forbes)
Subject: Re: Laugh-O-Lympics
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 03:12:30 GMT

silvers3@husc8.harvard.edu (Jolyon Silversmith) writes:
>A friend and I were reminiscing, and discovered that we coun't remember what
>characters hosted Hanna-Barbera's "Laugh-O-Lympics" show.  I think that's how
>the name was spelled - its been a while, but we can remember almost every other
>detail.  Help?

Snaggletooth, and -- ... and... Okay, I'm one for two here.  Anybody got
the name of the brown one?
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From: vgriscep@wam.umd.edu (VGR (Craig Pell))
Subject: Re: What's up with Casper.
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 17:59:22 GMT

In article <1992Apr13.171154.14571@pt.com> beb@pt.com (Bruce Buck) writes:
>>    What a sad way for "Herman and Catnip" classics to go....  :-(
>
>Classics?  Oh my.  Formula writing at its worst.  The same tired old plot
>rehashed ad infinitum.  Ditto for Casper.  Ditto for everything put out by
>Famous Studios after, say, 1946.

Oh, I didn't watch them for the plot.  And for the record, I disliked Casper
too (some of the comics were good).  But "Herman and Catnip" was delightful,
for its simplistically gratuitous violence.  Rivaled Tom & Jerry, it did.
And a bunch of neat expressions and takes, which I think were some of the
original work of Bob Clampett.

   VGR


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From: Jeff.Lindstrom@ofa123.fidonet.org (Jeff Lindstrom)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.animation
Subject: Re: Sick & Twisted Animation Festival?
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 92 01:40:34 PDT
Organization: Universal Electronics Inc. (Public access BBS)

  I have seen the Sick and Twisted Animation Festival out here in Orange County (a few miles from Disneyland).  Some of the stuff is sicker and more twisted than some other stuff.  Lupo the Butcher is an example that I had already seen in a `regular' animation festival.  Some of the entries deal with body parts and mutilation, some with aberrant sex.  Still others are too wierd to classify.
  I probably would have enjoyed it more if I hadn't been sitting next to some noisy, drunk Community College students.


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