HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pjh@eng.cam.ac.uk (Philippa Hogben)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: s/he was Re: Why don't you re-write this .
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:40:33 GMT
Reply-To: pjh@eng.camac.uk
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.


In article 3083@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU, met@ariel.its.unimelb.EDU.AU (Meteorology General) writes:
>In article <1992Sep6.220301.27636@rs.com> horen@rs.com (Jonathan B. Horen) writes:
>>
>>Too late, William; too late. And what's more, using "s/he" is a rather
>>elegant way to deal with a *very* inelegant problem. I decided some
>>eight years ago to trust in my readers' common sense and to "bastardize
>>the trusty slash", rather than to be a party (passively or otherwise)
>>to the `terrible bastardization of smooth sentence flow'.
>>
>
>My (inelegant) suggestion is (s)he.  

This reminds me of the time I was having a somewhat high-temperature e-mail exchange 
and my opponent used the phrase "thinks like a (wo)man". Given the tone of what had 
previously been written I interpreted this initially as an insult - i.e. women think
in a somehow different (and inferior) way to the way men think. My next thought (which
turned out to be correct) was that he was actually trying to use it as a non gender 
specific term to mean human being. I then tried to make the point (which he utterly failed to see) that since he was obviously trying to be so careful to avoid offending 
people he should be very careful what he said since he could not know what people
(i.e. me) find offensive. He did not seem to understand that his term "(wo)man" could be found offensive.

Philippa


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From: segr@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Read)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: The Great Debate: Re: Brit. vs. Amer. spelling, was: Re: Improper spelling
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:32:27 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre


In article <6sxnjrp@lynx.unm.edu>, jfreter@triton.unm.edu (The Myth) writes:
> There is a logical basis for spelling certain words in the American way
> as opposed to spelling them the way the Brittish do (ex.: Humor vice Humour,
> draft vice draught, etc.).  The simple reason, in today's world, is cost.
> 

Haven't we all heard this before?

There isn't really a big problem with the odd spelling differences, surely?
Most people don't even notice them, their spelling's that bad.

More importantly for us in GB is the loss of distinction in what we write
(though not necessarily what we say). This is illustrated above, there *IS*
a difference between draft and draught (at least in my English). There are
some more illustrations of the differences below; the first word of each
pair is the only one in use in the US:

draft      A rough copy of a document.
draught    An indoor breeze (and a checker).

check      Ensure (q.v.) that everything is okay.
cheque     A bankers draft.

insure     Pay a premium to Lloyds in case you have an accident.
ensure     Make certain.

I also use:

Program    Software for a computer.
Programme  On TV, or a collection of projects.

Disk       Magnetic media for storing information.
Disc       A round shape.


Simon Read
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From: padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: difference between boyfriend and girlfriend
Date: 14 Sep 1992 15:31:41 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu

In article <1992Sep13.205508.5398@csi.uottawa.ca> misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel) writes:
>   These terms were coined at a time when cross-sex friendships were
>more often assumed to be romantic than they are today.
>
>   They're relatively recent as the default terms for steadies, though.
>The Beatles sang "Last night I said these words to my girl", not "my
>girlfriend".
>

That may be more a function of meter, though.

Peter!

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From: mjm@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au (Mike McBain)
Subject: Head of a Native American tribe
Keywords: forms of address
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 02:47:15 GMT

Never mind the daughter of a marquess, how should one address
the head of a Native American tribe, like the Lakota or
Cherokee? Try looking that one up!
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From: ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: euphemistically constructed acronym
Date: 10 Sep 1992 13:08:35 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


Who's been mucking about with the acronyms?

And just when did the venerable 'fubar' get changed to 'foobar?'

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RAZ     ai118@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From: horen@rs.com (Jonathan B. Horen)
Subject: Re: Why don't you re-write this . . .
Organization: Renaissance Software, Inc.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:03:01 PDT

In article <HERMIT.92Sep6183811@am.ucsc.edu> hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) writes:
>In article <1992Sep2.140827.11164@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com> lange@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Alex Lange) writes:
>|
>|I like your forcefulness.  May I suggest that you use
>|"s/he"?  This bastardization is _really_ ugly and 
>|almost androgynous. Besides, it'll completely grab
>|your reader's attention when s/he stumbles over it.
>
>NO NO NOOOO!!!!  "s/he" means "s or he," which is *not* the same as
>"she/he," which means "she or he."  PLEASE don't encourage that
>terrible bastardization of the trusty slash.

Too late, William; too late. And what's more, using "s/he" is a rather
elegant way to deal with a *very* inelegant problem. I decided some
eight years ago to trust in my readers' common sense and to "bastardize
the trusty slash", rather than to be a party (passively or otherwise)
to the `terrible bastardization of smooth sentence flow'.

Wasn't it Walt Whitman who wrote: "A foolish consistency is the
hobgoblin of small minds"?

j.horen@rs.com
SysAdmin/TechWriter
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From: richard@raet-sh.UUCP (Richard van Denzel)
Subject: What is a GAROTTE?
Organization: RAET Industrie & Handel, Utrecht
Date: Mon, 07 Sep 1992 09:42:29 GMT

I am asking this for a friend of mine, who does not have internet access.

He is playing a strategy game on his old C-64 and in this game there is a
weapon called GAROTTE.
He and I have searched several dictionaries here in the Netherlands but have
not yet found what kind of weapon it is.

Is there someone who knows what kind of weapon a GAROTTE is?

Please e-mail me directly, because I am not a subscriber to this newsgroup.

Richard.
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From: misrael@csi.uottawa.ca (Mark Israel)
Subject: Re: A Neologism
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 92 03:30:05 GMT

In article <1992Sep3.151955.29217@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>, sorourke@lonestar.utsa.edu (Sean J. Orourke) writes:

>> quixotic
>
> I just looked this up... it comes from Don Quixote (kee-ho-tay) but is
> pronounced kwiks-a-tick.  Why?

   Formerly there was more of a tendency to anglicize foreign names than 
there is now.  "Quixote" used to be pronounced "quick sot" in English.

misrael@csi.uottawa.ca			Mark Israel
Sunbeams brightly play, where Fancy's fair pavilion once is pight.
From: rhemler@ems.cdc.com (Bob Hemler)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: euphemistically constructed acronym
Date: 10 Sep 92 14:17:16 GMT
Reply-To: rhemler@ems.cdc.com
Organization: Empros Systems International, a division of CDC

In article <18nhcjINNs49@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ai118@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Rich Zidonis) writes:
|> 
|> Who's been mucking about with the acronyms?
|> 
|> And just when did the venerable 'fubar' get changed to 'foobar?'
|>
	About the time 'fubar' got *FUBAR* and became 'foobar'.  But
	then 'DILLIGAF' is still not *FUBAR* and still applies.

|> -- 
|> RAZ     ai118@cleveland.freenet.edu

   Bob    rhemler ems.cdc.com
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From: bayla@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Bayla Singer)
Subject: Re: garfinkeling
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois, USA
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 11:52:25 GMT

I seem to remember a game played in Stoppard's -Rosencranz and Guildenstern
are Dead- called 'garfinkel'.  the object of the game was to keep up a
conversation entirely with questions: the first person to make a
declarative statement(other than scorekeeping and rule-citing) lost the
game.  

--bayla
From: long@qut.edu.au
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Testing to talk to you
Date: 9 Sep 92 15:38:45 EST
Organization: Queensland University of Technology

Yi Sun writes:

>> Just for testing notes

I guess that's an appropriate line for alt.english.usage.


Geoff Long, QUT, Brisbane.
From: epp@mala.bc.ca (Lorne Epp)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: What is a GAROTTE?
Date: 8 Sep 92 18:22:14 -0700
Distribution: world
Organization: Malaspina College

In article <1992Sep8.025134.1307@guvax.georgetown.edu>, aroshwald@guvax.georgetown.edu writes:
> In article <Bu7wv3.51L@ibmpcug.co.uk>, object@ibmpcug.co.uk (Ken Tough) writes:
>> 	alone and may not represent the views of the IBM PC User Group.
>> 
>> In article <1992Sep07.094229.8276@raet-sh.UUCP> 
>> richard@raet-sh.UUCP (Richard van Denzel) writes:
>>>
>>>Is there someone who knows what kind of weapon a GAROTTE is?
>>>
>> A favourite of the mafia, a garotte is a piece of strong cord (preferably
>> a piece of piano wire), with some sort of handle or grip on each end.
>> 
>> You simply wrap the cord or wire around the victim's neck (from behind)
>> and pull the ends.  Quick and easy, although the victim tends to
>> empty his/her bowels all over your feet.
> Was it not the Inquisition (the Spanish Inquisition perhaps) which
> invented  -- or at least first employed -- this lovely device? 
> (Let us give credit where it is due.) 
> 

Somebody was executed by garotte in Spain in the early 1970's.  It
was the first execution by garotte in over a hundred years, so
it got quite a bit of ink over here.

Incidentally, I think the Spanish Inquisition's garotte was slightly
different.  If I'm not mistaken, the cord was wrapped around the victim's
head, then tightened by twisting the ends together - the idea being
to cause pain rather than death.  There may have been knots in the cord,
to press on the eyeballs.
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From: harper@oracorp.com (Douglas Harper)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: A Neologism
Date: 3 Sep 92 18:06:49 GMT
Organization: ORA Corporation, Ithaca, New York

In article <1992Sep1.233118.15985@nmsu.edu> sabbott@nmsu.edu (SDA) writes:
>Here are literafisms I have collected, can anyone think of others?
...

Apollonian
Arthurian
Athenian
chimeric
Dionysian
gargantuan
Orphic
Pickwickian
stygian
terpsichorean
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From: evan@hpl.hp.com (Evan Kirshenbaum)
Subject: Re: Articles and acronyms (was re: University)
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 18:12:53 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Laboratories

In article <TSOS.96.716108388@uni-duesseldorf.de> TSOS@uni-duesseldorf.de (Detlef Lannert) writes:
>I've always been wondering in which category "FAQ" might fall: would
>you, native speakers, pronounce it like (a) "eff-ay-queue", (b) "fack",
>or (c) "frequently asked question[s]"? 

For me, the answer is invariably (b).  [/fak/ under the old notation,
/f&k/ under the evolving new, improved notation.]

Evan Kirshenbaum
    HP Laboratories
    3500 Deer Creek Road, Building 26U
    Palo Alto, CA  94304

    kirshenbaum@hpl.hp.com
    (415)857-7572


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From: andrew@venus.resntl.bhp.com.au
Subject: <None>
Organization: BHP Research, Newcastle Laboratories
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:33:09 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.065535.21046@techbook.com>, dant@techbook.com (Dan Tilque) writes:
> msb@sq.sq.com (Mark Brader) writes:
> }
> }Hear, hear.  And it's me who agrees that that's what a grammar is for.
> 
> Ya mean "it's me whom...".  Sheesh!  Can't even getcher grammer
> straight on the PedantNet.
> 
I can't see any reason to use the objective case here - you would be better off
jumping on him for ending a sentence with a preposition. ;-)

AndrewAndrew
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
From: roger@crux.Princeton.EDU (Roger Lustig)
Subject: Re: Short question on word sequence
Originator: news@nimaster
Reply-To: roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig)
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 14:35:43 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.042541.26561@news.columbia.edu> gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Gabe M Wiener) writes:
>In article <1992Sep7.022535.4416@Princeton.EDU> roger@astro.princeton.edu (Roger Lustig) writes:
>>>|1. "One less car", or
>>>|2. "One car less" ?

>>>"One fewer car," of course!

[some of my text deleted without notice -- Gabe, this is beneath you!]

>Of course.

>>In other words, it depends.  I wouldn't worry about either 1. or 2.;
>>both are quite common.

>Both are quite common.  One is wrong, however.

Why, Gabe, what makes you say that?  Do you have any evidence that
leads you to say that?  What does "wrong" mean in this context?  

And which one is wrong?  "one less car" or "one car less"?  How
do you come to such a conclusion?

Roger
>
>
>--
>Gabe Wiener - Columbia Univ.     "This 'telephone' has too many shortcomings 
>gmw1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu       to be seriously considered as a means of 
>N2GPZ in ham radio circles        communication. The device is inherently of
>72355,1226 on CI$                 no value to us." -Western Union memo, 1877
From: dcrane@arachnid.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: X-ray or X-Ray
Date: 5 Sep 1992 06:34:34 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: arachnid.berkeley.edu

In reference to the word codswallop:

My dictionary lists it not as a bit of information
relating to x-rays, but:

cods.wal.lop [orig. unknown] chiefly Brit.

Nonsense.

This is the `84 edition of the Webster's II.

 Have I fallen for someone's sense of humor?
(It's happened before.....)

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From: andrew@venus.resntl.bhp.com.au
Subject: Re: Articles and acronyms (was re: University)
Organization: BHP Research, Newcastle Laboratories
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:51:57 GMT

In article <HERMIT.92Sep9042843@am.ucsc.edu>, hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) writes:
> 
> Well, there is a philosophical difference among various people when it
> comes to pronouncing and using articles with acronyms.
> 
...
> 
> So consequently, when you decide whether you add "the" to it or not,
> you can think of it as a word or bunch of letters, in which case you
> don't add "the."  If you think of it as a bunch of words, however, the
> full title is "THE North American Free Trade Agreement," and since the
> word "The" is not included in the acronym, you add it to the
> beginning.
> 
> Similar things happen with acronyms whose first letter is a vowel in
> situations where it would be preceded by "a" or "an."

Another interesting quandry arises if the first letter's name starts with a
vowel when it isn't, as it were. For example, a SAC, or a Strategic Air
Command but an "es" "ay" "see". (Though this goes away if you insist an
acronym must be a word, and presumably pronounceable.)

Andrew
From: uojy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Articles and acronyms (was re: University)
Date: 7 Sep 92 11:09:51 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Cornell University

In article <HERMIT.92Sep6181050@am.ucsc.edu>,
hermit@cats.UCSC.EDU (William R. Ward) writes: 
> Well, there are two large US/rest-of-world differences here.  One is
> the "He's at xxx" and the other is the "college"/"university" word
> use.  The former is because Americans use more articles than
> British/rest-of-world people.  If an American is sick, he is "in the
> hospital"; if a Briton is taken ill, she is "in hospital."

During recent news coverage of the North American Free Trade Agreement
(NAFTA, pronounced in two syllables), I noticed that American economists
tended to call it just "NAFTA" whereas Canadian economists tended to call
it "the NAFTA".  Is there some rule of thumb about articles, acronyms, and
flavor of English?

|  Paul Kimoto                                                     |
|  kimoto@astrosun.tn.cornell.edu                                  |
|  uojy@crnlvax5.bitnet                                            |
|  Center for Radiophysics and Space Research, Cornell University  |
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From: kathleen@casbs.Stanford.EDU (Kathleen Much)
Subject: Re: Hedgehog vs Porcupine
Organization: Center for Advanced Study in the Behavioral Sciences
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 23:45:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep8.170150.27756@enea.se> lawe@enea.se (Lars Westin) writes:
>In _my_ book, a hedgehog is a rather small (up to 10" long) 
>_insectivorous_ mammal with sharp spines, while a porcupine
>is a _rodent_, much larger than a hedgehog (approx. 2'5") but
>also having spines  for protection. The hedgehog curls up when
>threatened, while the  porcupine just sticks out its spines. 

In _mine_, too.  I'm a native Texan transplanted to California.
Hedgehogs are not native to North America, but they sure are cute
(I've seen them in Europe).  Porcupines are natives, and they are
_not_ cute.  Dumb and ill-tempered.
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From: ccjal@cc.newcastle.edu.au (John A Lambert)
Subject: Re: avoiding sexist language (was Re: Less versus Fewer)
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 04:49:21 GMT

In article <88183@netnews.upenn.edu>, crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu (Lauren L. Crawford) writes:
> In article <1992Sep7.161944.1@wombat.newcastle.edu.au> eepjm@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan) writes:
>>
>>Note that the original poster was not from the U.S.  I'm not sure
>>about Britain, but Australian supermarkets don't have cashiers.
>>
> 
> 
> Oooh!  Free food in Australia!  
> 
-- 
No we just don't have cashiers in supermarkets. We have checkout operators (or
checkouts) or, if you don't mind being accused of sexism `checkout chicks'
(except that they are of both sexes).

John A Lambert
Centre for Literary and Linguistic Computing
The University of Newcastle NSW 2308 Australia
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From: eepjm@wombat.newcastle.edu.au (Peter Moylan)
Subject: Re: avoiding sexist language (was Re: Less versus Fewer)
Organization: University of Newcastle, AUSTRALIA
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 06:19:44 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.212858.15636@sco.COM>, naomib@sco.COM (Naomi Brokaw) writes:
> 
> In article <1992Aug24.160215.3475@nessie.mcc.ac.uk> segr@nessie.mcc.ac.uk
                (Simon Read) writes:
> 
>>How about when you go to the check-out and hand the check-out
>>operator (avoiding use of sexist pronouns) a 10 thingummy note.
> 
> Does sexism cause people to completely forget the the word "cashier?"

Note that the original poster was not from the U.S.  I'm not sure
about Britain, but Australian supermarkets don't have cashiers.

Peter
From: ptyaxel@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Seymour Axelrod)
Newsgroups: alt.usage.english
Subject: Re: Brit. vs. Amer. spelling, was: Re: Improper spelling
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:45:00 GMT
Organization: SUNY at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Sep14.110317.1@cc.newcastle.edu.au>, ccjal@cc.newcastle.edu.au (John A Lambert) writes...
..
>If one is think of saving printing costs, why do USAns write `Mr.', `Ms.',
>`Mrs.', `Dr.' etc instead of `Mr', `Ms', `Mrs', `Dr' as is Australian (and I
>believe UK) usage. We draw a distinction between _abbreviations_ which use a
>`.' and _contractions_ (which start with the initial and final letters of the
>word in question) which do not use a `.'.

Though he calls both "abbreviations", Fowler (MEU) suggests that Lambert's
practice has the advantage of providing useful information, arguing that 
"abbreviations are puzzling, but to puzzle is not their purpose, & everything 
that helps the reader to guess their meaning is a gain.  One such help is to 
let him know when the first & last letters of the abbreviation are also those 
of the full word ..." by not using the period in such cases.  Makes sense to 
me, but it's a rare US secretary or editor who will not insist on inserting 
the "omitted" period.

Seymour Axelrod, Psychiatry, State University of New York at Buffalo
PTYAXEL@UBVMS.BITNET                    PTYAXEL@UBVMS.CC.BUFFALO.EDU
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From: porges@beretta.camb.inmet.com (Don Porges)
Subject: ...NOT! Again!
Organization: Intermetrics Inc.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 02:40:22 GMT

Here's some more information on the possible origin of the elusive "...NOT!"
 
Cat Yronwode, publisher of Eclipse Comics, runs a weekly ad and column in
the Comics Buyer's Guide, a newspaper for the comics fan.  In recent
months, she has been calling for early citations of the postfix "NOT", and
has developed a theory that it is of Anglo-Irish origin, since several 
early examples (from older columns, which I don't have any more) are all
from Anglo-Irish writers.  
 
This week, the story continues:
 
"...But at the San Diego Comicon last week I bought a 1906 illustrated edition
of Ellis Parker Butler's hilarious 1905 short story _Pigs is Pigs_ (if you
have never read this, seek it out; it will make you laugh) and there I ran
across a passage in which the railway express agent Flannery (an Irish-
American who speaks in dialect) has been ordered by his superiors to collect 
fees due on a refused shipment of guinea pigs, plus the cost of their feed
while in his care:
 
'Proceed to collect', he said softly.  'How them clerks do loike to be
talkin'!  _Me_ proceed to collect two dollars and and twinty-foive cints
off Misther Morehouse!  I wonder do thim clerks _know_ Misther Morehouse?
I'll git it!  Oh, yes! "Misther Morehouse, two an' a quarter, plaze."
"Cert'nly, me dear frind F'annery.  Delighted!  _NOT_!"'
 
"And that is the earliest _not!_ we have.  And it is still Irish-American.
 
[Yronwode responds to a guess that it comes from "She loves me, she loves
me not", but rejects that contention, and concludes:]
 
"...some popular late 19th or early 20th century writer or actor permanently
tied it to Irish-American dialect humor, for we never see it in the mouths
of German- or Anglo- or African-American dialect characters.  It is the
identity of that writer or actor I am seeking."
 
-- Anyway, this informal research project seems to have produced earlier
citations than I've seen anywhere else, so I though it might be welcome
here.  I'll post updates from her column as they appear.

					-- Don Porges
					porges@inmet.camb.inmet.com
					..uunet!inmet!porges
-- 
					-- Don Porges
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