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From: grtorlba@sumax.seattleu.edu (George Torralba)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: 387 and windows
Date: 5 Sep 92 16:16:36 GMT
Article-I.D.: sumax.4961
Organization: Seattle University, Seattle WA

In article <Bu4255.44H@acsu.buffalo.edu> lammens@acsu.buffalo.edu (Joe Lammens) writes:
>Does putting a 387 coprocessor in a 386 machine speed up windows
>significantly? 
>
>Please reply by e-mail.
>Thanks,
>
>Joe Lammens.

I pop a Cyrix 387 on my 386/40 and I don't see any improvement (those that
can be seen with the naked eye and not some benchmark).  It's different with
calculations in Excel however.  I'd say if you have the spare money, get
memory, memory, and memory.

George
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: roger@wateol.uwaterloo.ca (Roger De Abreu)
Subject: ATI and Dos Performance
Organization: EOL/UWaterloo
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:33:55 GMT

I've just installed an ATI Ultra co-pro. card in my 386 33.  While the perfor-
mance in Windows has improved dramatically, I am wonderin' if I should expect any im
any improvements in DOS apps running under and/or not under windows.  If so, 
are there certain drivers available somewhere.

Thanks in advance...rogman
From: Guy_Saffold@mindlink.bc.ca (Guy Saffold)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: PostScript App in Windows
Date: 7 Sep 92 15:42:24 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> Daniel Moran writes:
> 
> Msg-ID: <155.222.uupcb@pcb.batpad.lgb.ca.us>
> Posted: 6 Sep 92 17:34:00 GMT
> 
> Org.  : The Batchelor Pad PCBoard ~ Long Beach, CA ~ +1 310 494 8084
> 
> SA>  I am looking for a way to import Postscript Files (from MAC or Unix) and
> SA>edit them in Windows 3.1 . Does anybody know of an App that does that ?
> SA>  I want also to be able to save that file again in PS format, and to
> print
> SA>  Do you where I can find PS drivers for my HP DeskJet 500C (any FTP ?) ??
> 
> Page Make is also quite adept at loading various file types.  PM for MAC and
> PM for Windows can directly interchange files.  Files from the one platform
> load on the other just as if they had been created there.  Must have the same
> version number on each platform, linked or embedded files do not always
> (usually not) transfer well, and PM may have to substitute fonts if there are
> not equivalent sets on each machine.
> 
> -- Guy
> 
> 
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From: scstech@solomon.technet.sg (Arthur Lim)
Subject: Help Installing Win 3.1 Driver For Paradise Card
Organization: Singapore Computer Systems Ltd
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 07:51:40 GMT

Hi,

I have a Paradise PVGAID Super VGA Card (9140) installed on my PC.
Along with the card are 3 disks ( one of which contains Win 3.1
drivers ). When I tried to install the driver that allows 32K color,
it either hang Windows at startup or it gave me wierd colors.
BTW, I have 1MB on board the card.

Have I done something *PROHIBITED* or is there another solution ?

Thanks for any hints/replies.



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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.os.ms-windows.misc
From: gcook@horus.cem.msu.EDU (Greg Cook|xxxxxx)
Subject: How to set up COM 4 in Terminal??.
Organization: Michigan State University
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 16:34:43 GMT

My modem is using COM 4 (I can't use com2 or com3 without changing
things on my serial card, and I don't really want to do that).

When I try to set up com 4 in windows Terminal, it won't let me (not
supported or in use by something else).  It will accept com 1-3 but
that's not where my modem is.

What's going on here?  Is there somewhere that I can set up the interrupt
line etc, etc?

Thanks!

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: mccall@mksol.dseg.ti.com (fred j mccall 575-3539)
Subject: Re: Communications under Windows.
Organization: Texas Instruments Inc
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 16:58:05 GMT

In <1992Sep12.231351.42944@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> god@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>I have yet another puzzle for all of you windows freaks out there.  I
>am trying to use Telemate under windows, but neither it or the
>Compuserve Information Manager will swap out once they're loaded.
>This means that the only Comm program that I'm able to use in Windows
>3.1 is the Win100 Terminal Emulator (which doesn't want to download
>anything, primitiveness aside).

A bit more detail might help.  Little things like which mode you're
running Windows in (and which version), how much memory your machine
has, etc.  Also, I think you need to define 'swap out' for me, since
if you really mean 'swap out', it's something you DON'T want a comm
program to do, since if it swaps out you lose the comm session.  I
suspect what you mean is 'iconize and still run' or 'run in a window'
or something similar.

>What great wisdom would you have me apply to these conundrums?  Thanks.

Guessing that you mean you can't get them to run in the background,
try creating a PIF file for them that specifies they can be run in the
background.  Or, instead of that, check the settings in the _default
PIF in the Windows directory; this is the one that gets used when you
click on an MS-DOS executable.  If you indeed mean what I think you
mean (instead of really meaning 'swap out'), I would bet the problem
is that your _defult.pif file specifies something like 'full_screen'
and 'exclusive'.  Either that, or you aren't running in Enhanced mode
because you have too little memory or don't have a 386 or better
machine.

Don't people ever read the manuals that come with this stuff?


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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: hal@osf.org (Hal Lichtin)
Subject: DOS Prompt Crashes System
Reply-To: hal@osf.org (Hal Lichtin)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: 14 Sep 92 09:47:43

Before I try a complete reinstallation, maybe someone can give a few
pointers....

Whenever I run the DOS prompt from Windows, eventually the system
freezes and refuses to accept any further keyboard or mouse input.
Plain DOS works fine.  Plain Windows works fine.  Just DOS from
Windows doesn't.  Sometimes it happens immediately.  Sometimes it
takes a while.  It can freeze at the prompt level, within a DOS
command, or an application.  It doesn't seem to matter whether DOS is
full screen or in a window.

I'm running Win3.1 on DOS 5.0.  The System is a no-name 386 with 40MHz
AMD chip and 4 Meg 70NS memory, 64K 25NS chache, 5/5/91 AMI BIOS,
Symphony chip set, 120 Meg WD HD, and a 512K Trident 9000A generic
video board.  Configuration is pretty much plain vanilla.  I run
HIMEM, DOS HIGH, SMARTDRV and a mouse using the mouse.com that comes
with 3.1.  I do not have any other TSRs.  I use the 800x600X16
standard windows SVGA driver.  My DOS shell is COMMAND.COM.  I
normally use windows' 32-bit disk access.

I've tried a number of tactics to no avail, including turning off
32-bit disk access, upping the COMMAND.COM environment to 1024,
switching mouse drivers, installing WIN31B version of the 800x600x16
driver available from Trident's BBS (and then reinstalling the Windows
standard SVGA driver from the distribution disk), upping the BIOS
memory wait states, running the bus at 8 MHZ (it was set for 10),
fiddling with the stacks count (no difference between 9,256 and 0,0).
I haven't yet tried running at another resolution.  But I REALLY want
to run at 800X600.

I've looked pretty hard at the Windows Resource Kit and found no help.
(Did you know that Winows never crashes, at least there is no "crash"
entry in the WRK index :-).

Please send me mail.  I'll post the winning entry, if there is one,
and any other relevant responses.
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From: 5916rahmank@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: using a mouse in a dos program whie it is a window
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 04:08:49 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 5916rahmank@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsa.csd.mu.edu

In article <BuAL5w.B7I@animal.gcs.co.nz>, lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz (Laurence Chiu) writes:
|>In article <1992Sep7.220048.12029@samba.oit.unc.edu> areid@med.unc.edu (Alfred Reid) writes:
|>>CKT0@LEHIGH.EDU writes...
|>>>I have been unable to find info on or figue out how to use my mouse in a dos
|>>>appclation while it is running as a window. I am using windows 3.1 and I have
|>>>hurd this is possible. Dose anyone know how? Help would be apprecated.
|>>
|>>The DOS window must be full-screen *before* starting the application. 
|>>Don't know if this is generally the case but that's how it works with the
|>>three mouse-aware DOS apps that I use under Windows 3.1 (WP 5.1,
|>>DrawPerfect 1.1, and Lotus 123 2.2).  Your mileage may vary.
|>>
|>>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|>>Alfred Reid                                                 areid@med.unc.edu
|>
|>Not exactly true. To get the mouse to work in a Window you need two things
|>1.  A mouse driver loaded outside of Windows. There should be one on the
|>Windows disk as mouse.sy_ or mouse.co_. Needs to be expanded.
|>2.  A Win 3.1 compliant video driver. If you're using standard VGA then
|>that would work. If you are using svga on ET4000, Trident, etc. cards then
|>you will need to locate the 3.1 drivers on the various FTP sites. Although
|>3.0 drivers will work, things like mouse in a Window and scalable fonts in
|>a dos windows will not.
|>
|>Laurence Chiu
>
 ---------------------------------------

	On the other hand, you can save all the troubles just by
	editing the system.ini file

	Locate [386Enh]. Under this section find
		local=CON 
	and change this line to
		local=$PCMOUSE
        Now restart the windows.

	-Anis.
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: sshapiro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stewart D Shapiro)
Subject: Diamond boards
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 05:19:41 GMT

I called Diamond today, and was told that their Speedstar 24X VGA
board is faster than the Stealth, both in DOS AND IN WINDOWS.  Not
only that, but the 24X is considerably cheaper.  Nevertheless, they
are still going to make the Stealth.  Does anybody have any
comparative information on these boards, and does the info I was given
make sense?
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 09:23:35 EDT
From: <CBD106@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Best setup for 16MB RAM?

I need a little bit of help.  I have a 486/50 with 16 MB of RAM.  I would like
some suggestions on what the optimal distribution of memory for windows 3.1 and
 my other programs (datacad,winword 2.0, etc...) should be.

                                              Thanks,
                                              Craig
From: gordy@endor.uucp (Robert Gordy)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: Best setup for 16MB RAM?
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:36:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: das.1992Sep9.213600.18715
Organization: Aiken Computation Lab, Harvard University

In article <92253.092335CBD106@psuvm.psu.edu> CBD106@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>I need a little bit of help.  I have a 486/50 with 16 MB of RAM.  I would like
>some suggestions on what the optimal distribution of memory for windows 3.1 and
> my other programs (datacad,winword 2.0, etc...) should be.
>
>                                              Thanks,
>                                              Craig

I basically have the same set up.  I recommend that you don't
use a swapfile.  I've heard that it slows things down considerably.
Other than that, I don't have any good ideas, although I'd like
to hear what you find out (ie. post a summary).

Rob Gordy
From: jbs@Congruent.COM (Jeffrey Siegal)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: Is Tseng Lab ET4000 an Windows accelerator chip ?
Date: 15 Sep 92 17:44:22 GMT
	<JBS.92Sep4122250@sun1.Congruent.COM>
	<1992Sep4.164944.3777@spcvxb.spc.edu>
Organization: Congruent Corporation; New York, NY
In-reply-to: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu's message of 4 Sep 92 20:49:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep4.164944.3777@spcvxb.spc.edu> terry@spcvxb.spc.edu
(Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.) writes:

     I'm talking about giving the ET4000 chip two set of coordinates
     and saying "copy and mask".

The ET4000 has no such feature, for simple, complex or any other
operations.

Jeffrey Siegal
From: shooter@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Shooter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Age old Problem...Mouse in a DOS box (again)
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:51:20 GMT
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore

Hi 
	I've been keeping up with all the past discussions on getting a
mouse to work in a DOS window.  I followed the instructions, and it still
doesn't work!

My setup:

486/33
win 3.1
microsoft compatible mouse


I got the latest Trident video drivers from cica installed.
I setup the boolen DosInABox=1
I've loaded the mouse.sys before I run Windows. (msd reports the driver as a
microsoft driver).
It still doesn't work.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Mark
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From: lammens@acsu.buffalo.edu (Joe Lammens)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: 387 and windows
Date: 5 Sep 92 15:22:16 GMT
Organization: SUNY/Buffalo Computer Science

In article <Bu4255.44H@acsu.buffalo.edu> lammens@acsu.buffalo.edu (Joe Lammens) writes:
>Does putting a 387 coprocessor in a 386 machine speed up windows
>significantly? 

oops, found the answer in the FAQ. Sorry about that.
JL
From: terry@spcvxb.spc.edu (Terry Kennedy, Operations Mgr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: Is Tseng Lab ET4000 an Windows accelerator chip ?
Date: 16 Sep 92 02:39:43 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

In article <JBS.92Sep15134422@sun1.Congruent.COM>, jbs@Congruent.COM (Jeffrey Siegal) writes:
> The ET4000 has no such feature, for simple, complex or any other
> operations.

  Right, which is why I'm claiming that it *isn't* an accelerator card.

  By the way, if we're going to continue this, can we do it in something
closer to realtime?

	Terry Kennedy		Operations Manager, Academic Computing
	terry@spcvxa.bitnet	St. Peter's College, Jersey City, NJ USA
	terry@spcvxa.spc.edu	+1 201 915 9381
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup,comp.sys.novell
From: rob@polestar.facl.mcgill.ca (Rob Macfarlane)
Subject: WinQVT with ODIPKT?
Keywords: ODI WINQVT HELP
Reply-To: rob@facl.lan.mcgill.ca
Organization: McGill University
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 20:30:07 GMT

Help!

I've been trying to get WinQVT to work using the Novell ODI drivers.  I've  
got the winpkt shim installed, but Windows just quits when I try to start  
WINQVT.

Trumpet works under DOS, so I know ODIPKT is working alright.

Could someone who has this working help me out?

Cheers,
Rob Macfarlane
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
From: bartels@aio.jsc.nasa.gov (Jeff Bartels)
Subject: Re: Can't use a swapfile on my SCSI disk.
Organization: /u51/Users/bartels/.organization
Date: 10 Sep 92 09:32:02

>>>>> In article <7SEP199213255518@zeus.tamu.edu>, kbm8572@zeus.tamu.edu (BRYAN MILLIGAN) writes:
 >> News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

 >> 	I recently upgraded to Windows 3.1 and seem to be having a great deal
 >> of trouble with swapfiles.  My setup:
 >> 	386/33 8MB RAM
 >> 	Adaptec 1542A SCSI Controller
 >> 	Quantum 80MB and Maxtor 120MB SCSI drives
 >> 	HIMEM.SYS, EMM386.SYS (Win 3.1 versions)
 >> 	SMARTDRV.SYS (Win 3.1 version w/ double buffering)
 >> 	RAMDRIVE.SYS (512K in extended; Win 3.1 version)
 >> 	ASPI4DOS.SYS (V 3.0A w/ /V option)
 >> 	MOUSE.SYS, ANSI.SYS, JETSCRPT.SYS (QMS JetScript driver)
 >> 	MS-DOS 5.0
 >> I this setup everything works fine until I try and use a swapfile.  With 
 >> Win 3.0 I could use a temporary swapfile, but I could not set up a permanent
 >> swapfile.  With Win 3.1 I can't use any type of swapfile.  If I do set one up
 >> Windows locks up the machine on exit (time for the three-fingered salute), I
 >> lose most of my program groups, and most of the files on my hard disk are
 >> corrupted (cross-linked, truncated, etc.).  I really need to be able to use
 >> a swapfile to run Mathematica proberly (even with 8MB RAM).  Does anyone
 >> know of a fix for this problem?  Any help would be appreciated. 


 >> bryan

 >> kbm8572@zeus.tamu.edu (VAX 9000)
 >> bryan@aero15.tamu.edu (Sun 4/65)
 >> (409)845-0714         (Panasonic Easa-Phone)

My SCSI adapter (Future Domain and Seagate before that) requires a
segment of high memory (for SCSI BIOS + other stuff). That means that I have to provide a
x=NNNN-NNNN argument in my EMM386 invocation so that the segment is
protected from corruption. Check your manual for the Adaptec, it
should tell you where this segment resides and how big it is. You can
also probably configure the memory location with jumpers on your
board.

Hope this helps.
From: jliukkon@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Juha-Matti Liukkonen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: Communications under Windows.
Date: 13 Sep 92 17:58:48 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

In <1992Sep12.231351.42944@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu> god@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:

>I have yet another puzzle for all of you windows freaks out there.  I
>am trying to use Telemate under windows, but neither it or the
>Compuserve Information Manager will swap out once they're loaded.
>This means that the only Comm program that I'm able to use in Windows
>3.1 is the Win100 Terminal Emulator (which doesn't want to download
>anything, primitiveness aside).

>What great wisdom would you have me apply to these conundrums?  Thanks.

Great Wisdom? None :)

Why wouldn't you try the WINKRM23 (newer version of WIN100) or WNQVT478
instead. Kermit has only Kermit, but I prefer it as a product. QVT
includes X- and Z-Modem support as well. Both available at least from
garbo.uwasa.fi, ftp.cica.indiana.edu via anon. ftp.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Re: using a mouse in a dos program whie it is a window
From: lchiu@animal.gcs.co.nz (Laurence Chiu)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 03:46:39 GMT
Organization: GCS Limited, Wellington, New Zealand

In article <1992Sep7.220048.12029@samba.oit.unc.edu> areid@med.unc.edu (Alfred Reid) writes:
>CKT0@LEHIGH.EDU writes...
>>I have been unable to find info on or figue out how to use my mouse in a dos
>>appclation while it is running as a window. I am using windows 3.1 and I have
>>hurd this is possible. Dose anyone know how? Help would be apprecated.
>
>The DOS window must be full-screen *before* starting the application. 
>Don't know if this is generally the case but that's how it works with the
>three mouse-aware DOS apps that I use under Windows 3.1 (WP 5.1,
>DrawPerfect 1.1, and Lotus 123 2.2).  Your mileage may vary.
>
>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
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>Chapel Hill, NC 27599-7595.     (919) 966-3711 [voice]; (919) 966-6125 [FAX]
>
>

Not exactly true. To get the mouse to work in a Window you need two things
1.  A mouse driver loaded outside of Windows. There should be one on the
Windows disk as mouse.sy_ or mouse.co_. Needs to be expanded.
2.  A Win 3.1 compliant video driver. If you're using standard VGA then
that would work. If you are using svga on ET4000, Trident, etc. cards then
you will need to locate the 3.1 drivers on the various FTP sites. Although
3.0 drivers will work, things like mouse in a Window and scalable fonts in
a dos windows will not.

Laurence Chiu
From: whare@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: ==HELP== ATI VANTAGE + Windows 3.1 Problem!
Date: 13 Sep 92 23:05:48 -0300
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

I have a clone 386/33 equipped with an ATI Graphics VANTAGE 
accelerator (1MB) and am some difficulties installing the
drivers. I have no problems wi the generic VGA setup but
I am not gaining any of the speed benefits that way. When
I install the ATI ULTRA 640x480x16 or 256 driver the video
performance does improve greatly but when I try to load up
a DOS program I get the error:

[!] Incorrect system version.
    Run the Windows Setup program again

What should I do? Thanks. Email or post.
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From: paul@panix.com (Paul Gatker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.ms-windows.setup
Subject: Larger size than 24x80 for DOS window has some problems?
Date: 5 Sep 92 00:18:35 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

>>
>>is it possible to open DOS windows ( i use norton desktop 2.0 )
>>which are larger than 24x80 ?  if i try to strecth the window it
>>doesn't seem to allow me.
>>

>Insert the following into the [NonWindowsApp] section of your SYSTEM.INI file:

>ScreenLines=50

>to open a DOS window with f.e. 50 lines.


 Well, I did this and it works pretty good in some programs such as
Q-Modem. Q-Modem actually accesses 50 lines of data in the windowed dos
box and even when in full screen dos mode.

 But, when trying to use a dos box for pure dos, the trouble begins. DOS
only wants to allow 25 lines no matter what. I've played around with the
mode con: lines=50 setting but this only does what the screenlines=50
command does in windows. DOS still will only display 25 lines of a dir
command at a time. Many programs override this limitation: "list" for one
will display 50 lines.

 Can DOS be so crippled in this regard. It doesn't seem like it should as
it does allow for 50 lines via mode. (BTW, mode is a lousy way to do it
since ansi.sys is required and this slows down the screen display a lot.

 Any ideas?

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