From: jamcdani@zia.. ("jennifer mc daniel")
Newsgroups: talk.abortion
Subject: Re: THE IMPLICATIONS OF ABORTION ON OUR SOCIETYdir
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:50:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Apr8.165039.5080
Organization: Indiana University

In article <1992Apr8.011210.18193@cs.dal.ca> franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve  
Franklin) writes:
> In <1992Apr7.185217.15334@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU>  
rfischer@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Ray Fischer) writes:
> 
> >franklin@ug.cs.dal.ca (Steve Franklin) writes ...
> 
> >So basically you're saying that it is so because you believe it to be
> >so and because the church says so.
>    No... I'm saying that you haven't given the unborn fetus a chance
> to decide. Forget the church's say, forget my say, but listen to the  
fetus.
> You know what? You can't... So, I say it is not our position to judge  
the
> status of the fetus. The fact that the population is so divided on the
> status of the fetus should be sufficient to show us we cannot end it's 
> existence. Until a unanimous decision arises that the unborn fetus
> is not a sentient being with rights, then we cannot afford to abort the
> fetus. Otherwise, as long as the decision is split, there are many out
> there that see it as murder.
> 
> Ahhh - here we go - Just what I was waiting for. A hack at the church's
> credibility. Don't bother tackling arguments and concepts, but go for
> character assasination. I'm starting to feel a bit like Clarence  
Thomas...
> Character assassination is one thing, but lowering an entire group 
> by it's beliefs from hundreds of years ago, and even by other  
individuals 
> in the past decade is pathetic. I truly thought it was beneath you.
> 
> >1) Wholesale murder (the Crusades)
> >2) Torture (the Inquisition)
> >3) Belief in a Heliocentric universe (re: Galileo)
> >4) Illiteracy (during the Middle Ages being caught with a Bible could
> >   get you in serious trouble if you weren't affiliated with the  
Church)
> >5) Bribery (buying permission to sin was once common)
>    So, if I could show you all of the corruptible evidence within
> the American government, would that prove to you that democracy is
> not any good, and should be done away with in the American society 
> as we know it? Let good ol' anarchy reign? My friend, judging a 
> message by the people who carry it, (even 500 years ago for crying out
> loud!) is pathetic. Just pathetic. I'm embarassed for you but will 
> assume you don't make such flaws in logic often...
> 
> >I might point out that I can build a machine that moves and sucks its
> >thumb.  These attributes would hardly make it human, however.  And if
> >I put a petri dish with some living tissue inside it, it would also
> >have some genetic material in it.  As for dreaming - how can you tell?
>    What a poor analogy... Doesn't merit me responding. Unless your  
machine
> has millions of responsive synapses which respond to it's environment.
> The ability to reproduce, a beating heart, thermo-responsive cells,
> responds to pain, etc etc etc... That's what makes the difference  
between
> man and machine. Although I must say, my macintosh seems to be a little
> more intelligent than some of your remarks...hmmmmm
> 
>    steve (who's beginning to feel outnumbered 8)    )
> -- 
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    Jenni McDaniel, Indiana University, Department of Psychology
"All we ever look for: a god...a drug...a great big hug." -KaTe Bush
 Big ol' IU taking the opinions of one undergrad?!? Yeah, right....