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From: dlo@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: The big deal about Char's Counter Attack...
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Date: 5 Jan 93 07:28:22 GMT

Most people I know who like or love CAA(including myself) has seen at least
the first tv series and/or the three movies, so most of the big deal has to
do with the fact that Amuro and Char is in it.  The art and animation was also
a big factor for me.  I like the amount of detail in the movement of the suits
and the characters.  The fighting sequences were awesome!!!  I agree about the
new characters lack of *character* and how the movie just sort of canned them.
I also agree that this would not be a good first Gundam experience(my friend
being one exception...loved it when he saw it, and he'd never seen any Gundam
and not much anime in general).  I don't think that one can be conveinced to
like it.  Your opinion may change in the future but you (Conty-san) will have
to make that choice.  If you haven't seen the first series, see it and maybe
you'll like CAA a bit more.  IMHO CAA was just the tail of the dragon:  it
completes the whole, but still it was just the tail.

Maybe this would have been better if it was an OVA series...
Dick
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From: captain5@watserv.ucr.edu (Sam P. Chung)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: ROBOTECH...Any orriginal animation? or is it all hacked?
Date: 11 Jan 93 20:26:36 GMT

In article <1918@tnc.UUCP> m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins) writes:
> 
>    As far as I know, Macek didn't produce any new animation for
> Robotech, unless you count The Sentinels.  However, the animation was
> "re-timed" so that the Harmony Gold voices would fit the lip
> movements.  (Not sure how extensive this "re-timing" was.)
>  

Some of the timing was extensively redone to match the lips (which I thought
was a really bad idea).  If you ever see them again and listen to Reba West
doing one of her Minmay songs, the movement of the character is extremely 
choppy.  I'm sure most of the folks watching the Macross Perfect Collection
and so forth will hate this.  I did.


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From: fleggett@vicstoy.UUCP (Fred Leggett)
Subject: ATTN:  Craig Judd
Organization: vicstoy: Public Access Unix, Orlando, FL
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 22:47:59 GMT

     Ack!  Sorry for this abuse of bandwidth, but can Craig Judd please
email me?  Thanks.
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From: u8131027@cc.nctu.edu.tw ()
Subject: Re: Macross Love Song
Organization: National Chiao Tung University
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Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 01:59:12 GMT
From: diane.karagian@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Diane Karagian) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: r.a.a. widely known?
Date: 9 Jan 93 10:46:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: IDC BBS - Alameda, CA - 510-865-7115
Reply-To: diane.karagian@idcbbs.uu.holonet.net (Diane Karagian) 

ranma@pegasus.com (Doug Cha) said:

DC>  	By the way, GEnie is great for the poor-man like myself.  Virtually
DC>  free online time, if you log on at nights and stuff.  The moderation is
DC>  DAMNED irritating to me, but maybe not too bad for others..  

     It's great if you've got the time...  As for the moderation, tsk, 
tsk.  Better hope Lea doesn't hear that.  <g>  You might wake up some 
morning with a koi on your pillow.

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From: lazarus@quack.sac.ca.us (Albert Sze-Wei Wang)
Subject: Re: rec.arts.anime charter
Organization: The Duck Pond public unix: +1 408 249 9630, log in as 'guest'.
Date: 7 Jan 1993 06:32:52 UTC

In article <Jan.6.16.16.20.1993.20264@remus.rutgers.edu> pearl@remus.rutgers.edu (Starbuck) writes:


>I am also looking for the first message to rec.arts.anime or at least
>the date it was posted.

>Just out of curiousity (I have a terrible memory for these things),
>who here was around when rec.arts.anime was created besides Mark
>Crispin?

I was, but I missed the first 5 articles.  A good week back then was when
you got 5 or 6 posts a week.  I'm guessing but I would place the origin
of rec.arts.anime either early 89 or late 88, possibly the middle of '88.

Dunno if this helps any.... :\  

Albert

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From: tal691@huxley.anu.edu.au (Tonio Loewald)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: HELP! Am I becoming an anime snob??
Date: 5 Jan 93 20:49:38 GMT
Organization: Australian National University
NNTP-Posting-Host: 150.203.2.12

bp652@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Gil W. Lau) writes:


>Oh man!  Are my worst fears coming true?  Am I becoming like PANDA??

There is nothing wrong with being an anime snob.  What's my def-
inition?  Someone who knows what he likes, says so, with no
argument.  Then you have your different kinds of snobs, those
who who look at nothing else ("Zombies"), those who talk nothing
else (blowhards), and those who say nothing (who I have most
respect for.)  Me?  I'm a snob, all right.  I only like what is
good.  What is good, of course, is up for debate.  ?:-)

>Someone posted an "Are You An Anime Snob?" quiz a few months ago.
>I wish I kept a copy of it.

Whoever posted it before, post it back up, please?  I missed it too.

> Anyways I was at the LA Comic Book
>Convention yesterday (what a waste of $5!) and I was thumbing
>through Laser Perception's collection of Anime BGMs.  It was 
>pretty crowded.  The guy next to me was making a comment on every
>freakin' title he saw!  He was making one-line throwaway comments
>like, "Maison Ikkoku...good show!"  "Oh man!  Kanako Wada!"  "Wow! If
>I can only find Noriko Sakai!"  As if that weren't bad enough, he
>butts in and tries to take over the stack I was looking through!

[ Horror story omitted ]

You know what the most horrible thing about it is?  Most of us
used to be like him.  Hopefully this person will grow out of his
"infatuation", and become more restrained.

If I was in your shoes, I'd just ignore him.  Life is too short to
make enemies.  (Anime fandom is too small to make enemies ?:-))

Widya Santoso, not...
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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: The Most Over-Hyped Anime of 1992
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:37:51 GMT

In article <43321@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> tkim@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Tonghyun Kim) writes:
>
>DON'T BUY the LD unless you have to get every Gundam 0083 related
>product.

Hmmm....what am I still missing?... I did miss out on the deadline for the
Gundam 0083 priviledge disc. :(

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From: MAXSTERLING@delphi.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Liquid television/running man/japani
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:29:07 GMT
To: ANIME-L@VTVM1.CC.VT.EDU
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>>In comparison than, just how much japanese animation is there in
Japanimation?  Is it all really made in Japan? Korea?  (ie Simpsons) and are
they making better animation than the Japanese themselves? (with just a
label of Japanimation on it since it resembles the typical style?)<<

My definition of Anime is "animation whose primary intended audience
is Japan and which is made according to the tastes of Japanese viewers".

Anime is what it is because it caters to the tastes of its audience
(Japanese viewers).  When Japanese studios produce for the U.S. market, they
make stuff that suits American tastes.  That is not anime.  When animation
is made in Korea specifically for the Japanese market, it is anime just as
much as if it had been made in Japan.  If Disney made a short animation
specifically for Japan, and produced it according to Japanese tastes, I
would call that anime also.

Scott Baker
maxsterling@delphi.com
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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: Priates at LA comic book con
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:31:58 GMT

In article <1993Jan04.205902.2702@hounix.org> sazan@hounix.org (Kevin Winkler) writes:
>  We(A.D. Vision) came across some guy at the thanksgiving  Dallas
>Fantasy Fair that was selling some stuff.  Sorta cameacross of Devil Hunter Yohko.  It was the original japanese, but still it was pirated and we own the right  to it anyway.  Needless to say, a purchase and name were gotten.
>
>   Really funny thing was that he visited our table long after this had 
>transpired.  His eyes nearly bulged when he saw us.  He soon relized who it was who bought the tape.
>

So, what was the outcome of the encounter?
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From: dcb@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Predecrement David)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: the day rec.arts.anime began
Date: 7 Jan 93 17:42:00 GMT
Organization: Gokuraku Videos

mrc@Ikkoku-Kan.Panda.COM (Mark Crispin) writes:
>The first message to rec.arts.anime was from Ann Schubert at 3:52:32 AM
>Pacific Standard Time on November 14, 1987.

Well?  What was it?

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Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:59:25 CST
From: <U19807@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: GUNDAM: CHAR'S COUNTERATTACK: So, what's the big deal?
 <1993Jan12.063617.22117@netcom.com> <C0r8p9.1pw@ecf.toronto.edu>

In article <C0r8p9.1pw@ecf.toronto.edu>, linmo@ecf.toronto.edu (LIN MONTEIL)
says:
>
>In article <1993Jan12.063617.22117@netcom.com> akuma@netcom.com (Steven E
>Barnes) writes:
>>
>>People think Char and Amuro are dead?
>>
>>Did you see any bodies?  'Nuff said!
>
>Well let's put it this way. If there is enough money out there. They'll be
>back.

...thus leading me with the distinct impression that if Sunrise does this,they
really _don't_ know how to Leave Well Enough Alone.

>Personally being a die-hard Gundam Otaku, for the sake of continuity,
>I wish they stay dead.

Ditto. Before any other otaku decide to flame you for making such a
(completely acceptable,IMHO) statement,let me point this out: Why would
stick both Char and Amuro's butts on a disintegrating,superheated chunk of
rock and then fail to mention that they had got off somehow (How? Well,don't
ask _me_ that one) before the movie ended?
>>
>>By the way, people told me Char was dead at the end of Zeta,
>>and I didn't believe it then...


>Now back then Char definitely was NOT dead. It was shown in the last few
>frames in the series when the Type 100 was floating around with the cockpit
>open that he'd definitely be back.

Exactly. Why he totally disappeared from the face of the earth (a lousy meta-
phor,to say the least) during ZZ GUNDAM-except for the opening titles (?!?),
of course-is gonna be a question for the net.ages,no doubt....

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From: takahash@ntmtv.UUCP (Alan Takahashi)
Subject: Re: Ayukawa or Madoka? (**some spoilers**)?
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 23:29:27 GMT

In article <726663608.AA00498@abcbcafe.fidonet.org> Steve.Lamb@f1369.n203.z1.fidonet.org (Steve Lamb) writes:
>
>        I saw no real differences with the OVAs and the TV series.  Heck, the
>general opinion of me and my friends is that the OVAs are TV episodes which
>were not aired!

Close...

The OAVs seem to be manga chapters that were never made as part
of the TV series...
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From: lennad@bray1a.its.rpi.edu (Dmitri Lenna)
Subject: Youkoso Youko
Reply-To: lennad@rpi.edu
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY.
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:53:58 GMT

   Yes,.. I am back with yet another question to pester you all with :)

    This one's quite simple  ( i hope )  .. what is Youkoso Youko ?
   I heard it was good.. but the person I talked to couldn't quite 
   put the plot in to words.  I'd appreciate any kind of info. 

    Thanks Everyone ! 


    Dmitri "Dmitheon" Lenna
    Shinma-Buma of Anime Wars Crisis
    Largo is still my hero ! :)
From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Misc Anime Gossip
Date: 5 Jan 93 06:19:18 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


   I personally wish Otomo would STOP everything he is doing, and
finish the American Akira manga already!  We've been hanging on a
cliff too long.  If he has a 'better' ending planned, I'd sure like to
see it this decade!
 
   Okay, attack mode off. I'll be looking forward to the Quantum Leap
episode just like everyone else...
 
  -RJ

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From: amelman@orion.oac.uci.edu (Wan Dabada)
Subject: NG Knight Lamune & 40 image song: L!O!V!E!! Out-sider (Da Cider)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 7 Jan 93 08:41:31 GMT

--------------------------------------

   This is Da Cider's theme song, and, for those of you who listened to the
background music in the last episode, this was the song they used.

L!O!V!E!! Out-Sider
-------------------
NG Knight Lamune & 40 Image song (Da Cider's theme)
---------------------------------------------------
 
Ki ga tsukya itsudatte...hitori de ita no sa
Imasara nakama nante...warawasenja nee
Naite kureru yatsu ga inai...?
GAKI no koro mo ima mo...onaji da ze
Ore wa ore no ibasho dake o sagasu
 
Yatte yaru ze Out-Sider
Zen mo aku mo kankei nai ze
Kaze no muku mama ikiru no ga...Ore ryuu sa
 
Hanasu hodo no kako mo nake rya
FUKASHI makutta asu mo nai ze
Unmei nanka ikura demo kaete yaru
Get it on!
 
Tanin no tsura bakari...ki ni shiteiru yo ja
Ashimoto suku warete...Baka miru dake da ze
Homete kureru yatsu ga inai?
Sonna zeitaku nado...sutechimae
Ore ni toccha nanno imi mo nai ze
 
Yatte yaru ze Out-Sider
Ochiru tokoro made ochitanara
(Go!  Go!  Let's Go!) Hai agare...moo ichidoo
 
Dare ka no te no hira no ue de
Odorasareru no wa gomenda
(L!O!V!E!!) Wakatten ja ne- ka...jooshiki sa
Get it on!
 
Yatte yaru ze Out-Sider
Mikake yori wa wari to SHY-der
Yose yo nani o iwaserun-der...no seru na yo-
 
Dare ka no KETSU ni shiga mitsuku
Make inu dake nya naranai ze
Saigo ni warau no wa Ore-der...KIMEte yaru
Get it on!
 
Yatte yaru ze Out-Sider
Zen mo aku mo kankei nai ze
(Go!  Go!  Let's go!) Nani mo ka mo...Ore ryuu sa
 
Dare ka no KETSU ni shiga mitsuku
Make inu dake nya naranai ze
Saigo ni warau no wa Ore-der...KIMEte yaru
Get it on!

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From: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime
Subject: Re: Ayukawa...-kun?
Date: 8 Jan 93 05:54:02 GMT
Reply-To: m0336@tnc.UUCP (Ralph Jenkins)
Organization: The Next Challenge, Fairfax, Va.


[Why doesn't Kyosuke call Madoka Ayukawa-kun?]
 
 
   I'm certainly no authority on this, but I believe -kun is reserved
for young men.  Maybe he doesn't have the nerve to call her
Ayukawa-chan?
 
 
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From: priss@glia.biostr.washington.edu (Lisa)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.anime,rec.games.mud.tiny
Subject: AnimeMUCK
Date: 10 Jan 93 01:34:20 GMT
Organization: University of Washington
NNTP-Posting-Host: glia.biostr.washington.edu
Summary: AnimeMUCK is still open to check out and build on
Keywords: Anime,muck,virtual

Konnichi-wa!  Just to remind all of your people who are returning back to
school (Ugh!)  AnimeMUCK is still up for all you Anime fans who might want
to dedicate an entire MUCK to anime, manga or put in a little Otaku spirit
into it.
 
If you want to check it out, and you have TELNET access, type in the
following:
  
  telnet
  open anime.tcp.com 2035 (or 128.95.10.106 2035)
  connect Guest guest
  
This will allow you to log in as a guest character to browse around and look.
We are also running by registration to allow people a chance to get one
character of their choice.  It would be best for you to log in as a guest
before registering for a new character, since someone else might have taken
your choice in character and you have to find out who else you have to pick.
 
Once you have decided, type 'info registration' to get the information needed
to be sent to the wizards on how to get a new character.  PLEASE be sure your
mailer works, since some of us wizards have been creating your character, but
your mail has failed to receive our return letter.  If you do not receive a
return letter from us after 5 days, try the names you have given us with the
password and you should have a character to login as.
 
Now, for those of you who do not know how to muck, there are some FTP sites
to get this information if you need it.  piggy.ucsb.edu and
glia.biostr.washington.edu have documentations for MUCK that you can get from
their pub directory.
 
What we have now:
  Partially done Orange Road and Bubblegum Crisis areas.  We also have a
  Ninja High School and Gundam Area in the works as well as a Neo-Tokyo that
  could use some people to help out in making it.
  
  We have global chat and game rooms that people can use for entertainment and
  for gatherings.  The chat room has 8 sub rooms for quieter or less confusing
  discussions while there is one large chat room for everything and anything.
  The gameroom also has 8 sub rooms that provide dice simulators for Role
  Playing Gamers.
  
We hope to have more than just two wizards standing around to make the place
active, so please check it out!
 
Thanks!
 
-- Crys, Priss, Kei, Nami, Kiddy

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From: albertw@netcom.com (The Email Otaku)
Subject: Re: ROBOTECH...Any orriginal animation? or is it all hacked?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:04:59 GMT

Harmony Gold didn't hack three differenet series to make Robotech...they
glued them together. ^_^;
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