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From: hasty@netcom.com (Amancio Hasty Jr)
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Subject: Re: Free software and the future of support for Diamond products
Date: 28 Sep 92 23:43:07 GMT
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Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Date: Sun, 27 Sep 92 04:02:03 GMT
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

In article <1992Sep26.174107.1594@philabs.philips.com> kkt@philabs.philips.com (Kim-Kiat Tan) writes:
>In article <1992Sep25.225821.26683@infonode.ingr.com> bbrown@infonode.ingr.com (Bailey Brown) writes:
>>
>>higher end boards that use the '924 and have BNC connectors
>>as well as DIN.  The new STB S3 boards now have 24bit modes.
>>
>>------------
>>Bailey Brown                               "Above all else, confusion reigns."
>
>	What is the STB stands for ? I am shopping for a system with true
>24 bits color graphic, I saw a lot of Speedstar 24x, but since I am planning to
>program the card directly, Speedstar 24x is out if I cann't get information as
>to how to program it. But I have a hard time finding out what other vendors
>have a true 24 bits graphics display, anybody ? Also I am also looking at local
>bus (so I don't pay penalty for the graphic when running DOS programs using
>the local bus as compared with just the accelerated card), but most local bus
>graphic seems to only support 32k color.
>
>

The october issue of Byte magazine has an article on local buses.
For a complete list of vesa certified local bus components including 
motherboards, contact VESA at 408-435-0333. 

A little while ago, I read  a review on a scsi local bus system 
capable of transferring large files at a rate of 13MB/S.

Don't buy DIAMOND! They are coming out with a VESA local bus
motherboard so who knows what propieratory mechanism they
may have included in their motherboard.

Happy Reading and Shopping,
Amancio Hasty
From: bmskc!moe!paul@uunet.UU.NET (Paul Evan Matz)
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Date: 1 Oct 92 09:53:59 GMT
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Date: 29 Sep 92 06:30:36 GMT
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Keywords: PC server

We are just starting to evaluate Quarterdeck's Desqview/X.  So far, not
so good.  They don't bother to mention to customers that if they want to
do more than PC peer-to-peer operations, like run applications on a Unix host, 
an additional package "Network Manager for TCP/IP" must be purchased too
(list: $200, over and above Desqview/X).  This was somewhat disappointing.
I'm not sure who they think their market is going to be...

Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else had experiences to relate on PC
based X server implementations.  I think Locus has something; PC X-sight?
Has anyone seen any recent articles reviewing and comparing various
products?

Please email me directly, and I'll gladly summarize.


Thanks (wishful thinking),

Regards,
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From: hughm@brwah.inmos.co.uk (Hugh McIntyre)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: X equivalent of the Sunview program "overview"?
Date: 1 Oct 92 22:53:04 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK

Date: 1 Oct 92 14:53:48 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct1.145348.22980@inmos.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.sys.sun.apps,comp.cad.cadence

Hi,

Does anybody know of an X equivalent of the Sunview program "overview"?

For those who don't know what overview does, the man page says:

     Bitmap graphics based programs that are  not  SunView  based
     can  be  run from SunView using overview.  overview shows an
     icon in SunView when overview is brought up iconic (-Wi gen-
     eric  tool option; see sunview(1)) or when the program being
     run by overview is suspended (for  example,  using  CTRL-Z).
     Opening  the overview icon, or starting overview non-iconic,
     starts the program named  on  the  command  line.   overview
     suppresses  SunView so that SunView window applications will
     not interfere with the program's  display  output  or  input
     devices.

     overview runs programs that fit the following profile:

     own display              The program needs to own  the  bits
                              on the screen.  It does not use the
                              sunview library  to  arbitrate  the
                              use  of  the display and input dev-
                              ices between processes.

     keyboard input from stdin
                              The program  takes  keyboard  input
                              from stdin directly.

     mouse input from /dev/mouse
                              The  program  takes  locator  input
                              from the mouse directly.


At the moment I'm using the OW3 xnews server, and running the old program in
Sunview compatibility mode.  However, this is a real pain because the OW server
is disgustingly slow compared to X11R5.  More to the point, I occasionally get
the mouse lost or keyboard lost, forcing immediate exit from X, often with
kill -9 <mwm_pid>, without being able to cleanly exit any active windows.
These last problems may be caused because I'm using X11R5 clients and libraries
(plus a few extras for OW3).  However using just OW clients and libs would cause
other problems.  What I really want is to go to pure X11R5.

It's particularly galling to have to use SunView compatibility mode when
overview is not a "proper" SunView program, since it only ever appears as an
icon when other windows are on the screen.

I'm sure that at least the supression of other windows is possible because xlock
does this.  However, overview also arranges for it's child to get keyboard and
mouse IO.

Any Ideas?  Please e-mail rather than post, and I'll post a summary.

PS: I tried running "convert_to_xview", but it generated lots and lots of
    problems.

Thanks,


Hugh McIntyre.
Memory Design, INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK.
E-mail:  hughm@inmos.co.uk  or  hughm@inmos.com
         ukc!inmos!hughm    or  uunet!inmos.com!hughm  or  uunet!inmos-c!hughm
From: dror@netcom.com (Oz Dror)
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Subject: Re: Announcing the availability of XFree86 1.1
Date: 4 Oct 92 00:35:40 GMT
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Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

Date: 3 Oct 92 19:25:51 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct3.192551.1831@netcom.com>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.unix.sys5.r4,comp.unix.sys5.r3,comp.unix.pc-clone.32bit,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.linux,comp.os.mach,comp.windows.x


Is SCO Unix (3.2.2) Supported?
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From: joshua5@csa.bu.edu (Jim Peters)
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Subject: twm keeps the mouse
Date: 4 Oct 92 07:27:06 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Boston Univ., Computer Science

Date: 1 Oct 92 15:49:22 GMT
Message-Id: <JOSHUA5.92Oct1114922@csa.bu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

Is there some property of twm that I need to enable/disable to get rid of
the following behaviour?

Start X.  Screen clears, console xterm comes up, twm starts.  Standard
mouse X cursor comes up and is movable.  First click of mouse works
normally.  Cursor will change appropriately but does not change back.
Later clicks cause the mouse cursor to change to a 3 button mouse and shows
buttons one or two depressed.  xwininfo says it can not grab mouse.  If twm
is killed, problem starts over.  No twm, no problem.  

If this is a twm bug, my system info is:

486 50mhz.  BSD/386 0.9.1 no patches.  Essentially X386.
ATI Graphics Ultra.   (no interrupts jumpered, 8 bit ROM I/O necessary)

If someone can suggest how to debug twm with standard X tools, I might be
able to solve this on my own.

Thanks.
			 Jim Peters (joshua5@cs.bu.edu)
From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: X regions: why or why not?
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:10:42 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

Date: 29 Sep 92 16:12:44 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep29.171244.2490@lsl.co.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <THOTH.92Sep27125200@beach.cis.ufl.edu>, thoth@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Robert Forsman) writes:
> 
>> I've noticed, however, that not much of the freeware
>> X software that I can ftp uses regions.  Why is this?
> 
>   I believe it's just that not many people know how to accumulate
> Expose events properly.  It's a darn shame too because programs like
> xdu really lose when you OpaqueDrag across them.

Could someone show me (and others :) ) how please? JUst curious....
--
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Interviewer: "What's the most satisfying thing about being in
              The Sisters Of Mercy?"
Eldritch:    "When I collapse at the end of it..."
Interviewer: "Do you mean that?"
Eldritch:    "Yeah...."

Vote for Bill Clinton. Vote for Bill Clinton. Vote for Bill Clinton.
From: randy@ms.uky.edu (Randy Appleton)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Interviews
Date: 4 Oct 92 07:08:38 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Date: 1 Oct 92 04:41:16 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct1.04116.21794@ms.uky.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I'm tinking of doing a bit of programming with Interviews.  Is there
anything that I should know about this that I cannot get from the
docs?  Does anyone have any interesting experoences they'd like to share?
Finally, is there some better package out there?


-Thanks
-Randy
From: campo@sunthpi3.difi.unipi.it (Massimo Campostrini)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Wanted: "bitmap gallery" utility
Date: 29 Sep 92 21:28:21 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Istituto Nazionale di Fisica Nucleare, Pisa, Italy

Date: 29 Sep 92 15:35:21 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep29.153521.22284@di.unipi.it>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

In article <1992Sep29.075551.13259@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au>, anthony@kurango.cit.gu.edu.au (Anthony Thyssen) writes:
|> campo@sunthpi3.difi.unipi.it (Massimo Campostrini) writes:
|> 
|> |     Hi folks,
|> | I need a utility which displays many bitmaps in a single window 
|> | (e.g. displays 25 30x30 bitmaps), preferably ALL the bitmaps contained 
|> | in a directory. Does such an animal exist?
|> 
|> Try the new program ``xbmbrowser''  it can be ftp'ed from the global X
|> ftp archieve at export.lcs.mit.edu (18.24.0.12)
|> 
|> 
|>   Anthony Thyssen - (CIT, Griffith University)       anthony@cit.gu.edu.au

YES. `xbmbrowser' is exactly the tool I was looking for. Thanks!

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From: chuck@cbeaix2.atlsita.org (Chuck Hodgson)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Free software and the future of support for Diamond products
Date: 2 Oct 92 21:22:42 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Workstation Div., Supermicro Systems Group, Sony Corporation

Message-Id: <9210021454.AA20910@cbeaix2.atlsita.org>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 9:53:38 CDT
X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11]
From: a.reed@bham.ac.uk (Alan Reed)
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Subject: Re: XtCallActionProc
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:29:56 GMT
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Organization: ACS Computer Centre, University of Birmingham, Birmingham B15 2TT, ENGLAND

Date: 30 Sep 92 09:22:11 GMT
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <924630094611@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk> DMSOPN002E File REEDA NAMES * not found writes:
>From: DMSOPN002E File REEDA NAMES * not found
>Subject: XtCallActionProc
>Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 08:46:11 GMT

>I need to call an action procedure that is associated with a widget. For
>example  fred() in my-widget. I intended to do this using
>    XtCallActionProc(my-widget,"fred",FALSE,NULL,0)  say. However I
>found out that my release of X is older than X11R4 and the XtCallActionProc
>is not in the Xt library. Rather that wait till my system is updated can
>anyone suggest an alternative procedure or method equivalent to the above.
>System is IBM RS6000 320 AIX 3.1.5 AIXwindows
>Thanks in advance.
>Alan Reed
Should have been from     a.reed@bham.ac.uk
From: iscooibc@nuscc.nus.sg (Beng Chin)
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Subject: typedef - initialisation error
Date: 28 Sep 92 14:03:55 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: National University of Singapore

Date: 25 Sep 92 19:18:23 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep25.191823.28471@nuscc.nus.sg>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x


   hi everyone,

		I am new to C++ and X11/Motif and will appreciate 
	help of any kind.

		I don't really understand the error below. I guess
	it is requesting that I need to initialise the array, but 
	how I do I go about doing it?

		Would really appreciate reply and advice of 
	any kind.  Pse reply directly to   rob@kris.iscs.nus.sg.

		Thank you!


	Robin Seow 
	National University Of Singapore
		
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
typedef struct _menu_item {
	char 		*label;
	WidgetClass	*cl;
	char		mnemonic;
	char		*accelerator;
	char		*accel_text;
	void 		(*callback)();
	XtPointer	callback_data;
	struct _menu_item	*subitems;
	} MenuItem;

	
        MenuItem label_menu [] = {
		{ "Label String",(WidgetClass *)xmPushButtonGadgetClass,
 		'L', NULL, NULL,
	    	NULL, "label", (MenuItem *)NULL }, 
	   	NULL
	};
 
--------------------------------------------------------------------------
The error generated is as follows:

"WidgetAction.C", line 101: sorry, not implemented: 
                            general initializer in initializer list
*** Error code 1
From: scott@asd.com (Scott Barman)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Imake doc in ASCII?
Date: 6 Oct 92 17:05:36 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: American Software Development Corp., West Babylon, NY

Date: 2 Oct 92 18:16:01 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct2.181601.18253@asd.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I need a copy of the Imake documentation that is readable (in some
form).  I've read the FAQ, all the postings and what I find is the Imake
docs in PostScript or in TeX.  We do not have a PostScript laser printer
(yet) nor do I have time to get TeX and set it up to print one document.
Is there someone out there who can either mail (or maybe fax, if it is
not too long) a hard copy version of this document?  OR does someone
have it formatted in a plain, ASCII readable file that they can email
to me?

THANKS!!
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From: etxmesa@eos.ericsson.se (Michael Salmon)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: QUERY: setting up a ``cut'' translation
Date: 5 Oct 92 20:30:30 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Ericsson Telecom AB

Date: 5 Oct 92 10:20:37 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct5.102037.26777@ericsson.se>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

In article <sd344.718275819@Olympia>,
sd344@city.ac.uk (SHARPE P A) writes:
|> Does anyone know how I can set up a translation which allows me
|> to cut text from xpostit windows by binding (something!) to
|> the Cut key (F20) on a Sun keyboard.
|> 
|> sd344@city.ac.uk
|> 

These are general translations that I use for all text widgets which
are those used by xpostit:

*Text.translations: #override \
	<Key>L10:		kill-selection()\n\
	<Key>L9:		search(forward) next-page()\n\
	<Key>L8:		insert-selection(CUT_BUFFER1,PRIMARY)\n\
	<Key>R9:		previous-page()\n\
	<Key>R15:		next-page()\n\
	<Key>R7:		beginning-of-file()\n\
	<Key>R13:		end-of-file()\n

I used the L & R notation but of course they worj equally well with
F notation.

-- 

Michael Salmon

#include	<standard.disclaimer>
#include	<witty.saying>
#include	<fancy.pseudo.graphics>

Ericsson Telecom AB
Stockholm
From: ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Re: Free software and the future of support for Diamond products
Date: 30 Sep 92 17:04:16 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Indiana University

Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:30:47 GMT
Message-Id: <BvB2BC.C34@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.unix.sysv386,comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux,comp.unix.bsd,comp.os.mach,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware

In article <1992Sep25.075815.10416@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu> mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu (der Mouse) writes:
>In article <Bv034L.DEJ@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, ntaib@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Iskandar Taib) writes:

>>> Complete schematics, parts list, how to obtain it, complete doc. on
>>> how to build it, everything available on public domain.

>> Why bother, when you can buy a very good card for under $200?

>Why?  To quote the posting you replied to, complete schematics, parts
>list, how to obtain it, [...], everything available on public domain.

>Of course, perhaps your "very good card for under $200" *has* all of
>that.  If so, please tell me where to get it!  Tell the whole net
>where, for that matter - the Diamond flap has demonstrated the
>existence of plenty of people who'd love to find such a thing.

You seem to be arguing that simply because all this stuff is
in the public domain it immediately makes the card 

1) Good. Fast.
2) Reliable.
3) Widely used.
4) Free.

In other words better than the $200 commercial item. Or at 
least you'd need to argue that having everything in public 
domain makes everything else a worthwhile sacrifice..

Then you forget you actually have to buy the parts, then 
build, test and debug the thing.



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From: sinclair@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Duncan Sinclair)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: BUS error in Type1 code -- any ideas?
Date: 28 Sep 92 18:31:18 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Glasgow University Computing Science Dept.

Date: 26 Sep 92 19:58:22 GMT
Message-Id: <Bv7BHB.LEL@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I've just re-installed X11R5, after installing all the latest patches,
plus wiring in the Type1 font renderer.  But when I exercise it with
`xfontsel' (selecting the `utopia' font), a mightly core dump comes
down upon me.

Here's the trace-back from dbx:

% dbx /usr/X11/tbin/XsunMono core
Reading symbolic information...
Read 3129 symbols
program terminated by signal BUS (alignment error)
(dbx) where
GetType1Blues() at 0x53e6c
scan_font() at 0x54658
readFont() at 0x4c960
fontfcnA() at 0x4cb00
Type1OpenScalable() at 0x3e324
FontFileOpenFont() at 0x39440
doOpenFont() at 0x1e814
OpenFont() at 0x1ebd8
ProcOpenFont() at 0x26ab8
Dispatch() at 0x2553c
main() at 0x10764

This is on a b&W sparc, SUNOS 4.1.1, server compiled with gcc 2.2.2.
X11R5, patch level 17, Type1 software patch 1.

Has anyone met this before?  I'm assuming I've done something wrong, as
it must work for everybody else, no?

Any help appreciated.  I'd like to get this working before Monday morning.



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From: stieber@kreutler.de (Juergen Stieber)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Three questions concerning Motif GUI builders
Date: 30 Sep 92 01:06:25 GMT
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Organization: KREUTLER GmbH, 7500 Karlsruhe 1, Germany

Date: 29 Sep 92 14:16:18 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Sep29.141618.229@kreutler.de>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif

Hello Xperts,

I have three questions concerning interactive Motif GUI Builders.
The questions are rather independent of each other.

1) We are planning to develop an application in C++, and we also
   want to use one of the various interactive Motif GUI builders which
   generate C (Xm) or C/UIL output (e. g. UIM/X) for building the GUI of our
   application. The question is:

   Are there any drawbacks in mixing C++ and generated C or C/UIL?

   I guess it must be possible without any major problems, but
   maybe I'm wrong :-(
   In the FAQ list of comp.windows.x are a few hints, but I'm interested in
   personal opinions or experiences, because no one of us has practical
   experience in C++ programming or building interfaces with a GUI builder
   until now.

2) One of our main requirements is the ability of customizing the GUI of
   the above mentioned application for our customers AFTER compiling and
   linking. I know that this is possible e. g. by changing the resource
   values in application specific resource files.
   So far nothing exciting. My question now is:

   Is it possible to use an interactive Motif GUI builders which supports
   application specific resource files (e. g. UIM/X) as interactive
   resource file editors, especially after compiling and linking the
   application ???

   We think it's not reasonable for our support to edit resource files with
   a normal text editor. Any hints or suggestions are welcome, of course
   also other techniques/possibilities.

3) One of the main interface objects of our application will be forms in
   arbitrary shape and size, e. g. for use as RDBMS data entry interfaces.
   The question is:

   Is it possible/reasonable to build such forms with an interactive Motif
   GUI builder ???
   If the answer is yes, how about performance drawbacks ?
   Colleagues are doubtful on this and say that form generators
   such as Accell have to be used.

   I know that there are possibilities of creating templates and combining
   single GUI objects to create complex interface objects which can
   be treated as one object, etc. Any hints or practical experiences are
   appreciated.

Please answer by e-mail.

Thanks, Juergen

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From: lennan@tds.com (Tim Lennan)
Newsgroups: fj.mail-lists.x-window
Subject: Do Wcl 2.2, C++ and OPENLOOK 3.0 work together?
Date: 6 Oct 92 12:51:13 GMT
Distribution: fj
Organization: Trident Data Systems

Date: 1 Oct 92 20:42:32 GMT
Message-Id: <1992Oct1.204232.22289@tds.com>
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x

I am trying, with a marked lack of success, to get this combination to work.
Things are fine if I use the Sun cc compiler; but when I switch to C++ I get
segmentation violations inside calls to OpenLook functions.  Has anyone else 
had similar problems? or success using this combination?
			Tim - lennan@tds.com