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From: cgarnett@amhux1.amherst.edu (Craig Garnett '87)
Subject: A/UX 3 freezes when fsck fixes things!
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst MA
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 13:01:39 GMT

Anyone know about this one? I've got 3.0 running on a Mac II, connected
to the rest of the world by an ethernet card, so I can telnet to the
machine from our VAX. Occasionally, when I'm feeling bored, I'll log on
as superuser and do an "fsck /dev/dsk/c0d0s0", and invariably, if the
system finds anything wrong with the disk, it will come back at the end
of the repair process with "File system modified, rebooting A/UX!"

This would be fine and dandy, except it doesn't work. Whenever it does
this, I come look at the screen on the Mac and it's displaying this
black and white checkerboardish pattern with "panic: ifree: freeing free
inode" on the screen. Pressing the restart key makes the Mac reboot,
start A/UX, and all is well.

Is this supposed to be happening? It seems odd to me...if it turns out
that one just can't restart the Mac unless logged into the console, I'll
disable it, but it's still a pain.

Thanks!
-Craig
From: ffjal@alaska.edu (John Lehman)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Help Not recieving mail
Date: 23 Jul 92 16:26:29 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks

In article <1992Jul22.141721.4175@dartvax.dartmouth.edu>
rainer@coos.dartmouth.edu (Robert O. Rainer) writes:
... I was wondering if someone could help me with my mail problem.  It seems
that I
 can send mail off my mac fine using elm, but when I try to mail to my mac I 
get the following message: ...
>
><<< 553 Local configuration error, hostname not recognized as local
...
If you are not using a mail server (and maybe even if you are :)) /etc/HOSTNAME
needs to have the complete system name.  E.g. when I named my machine "lehman"
I had the same problem; when I explicitly renamed it "lehman.uafsom.alaska.edu"
the problem went away.
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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: Speed of Mac under A/UX 3
Keywords: A/UX speed
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:01:13 GMT

stever@netcom.com (Steve Riggins) writes:

>Hi!
>   I'd like to solicit some opinions on speed of the Mac OS when running under A/UX.  How much slower is it, for example, for running HyperCard, compiling
>with Think C, etc?

>  I'd be running A/UX on an FX, 900 or 950.

Boy, that's a tough one to answer since I never run the "real" MacOS...

Anyway, I did some basic benchmarking between A/UX 3.0 and System 7.0.1
on my Q900... I would guess that the overhead of A/UX decreases performance
in my limited experience by about 5-7% (overall).
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                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

                     "Squeak. Squeak, I tell you, squeak."
From: Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU (Conrad C. Nobili)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: LONG ravings about disk geometry. (was: Re: /etc/disktab entry for Quantum LP240S)
Date: 29 Jul 92 18:47:18 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.aux
Organization: Harvard University Office for Information Technology

In article <14si9rINNlpp@smurf.smurf.sub.org>, urlichs@smurf.sub.org
(Matthias Urlichs) wrote:

> Some disks don't have heads on the "outside" surfaces. 

Ah!  Thank you Matthias!  That was the last part I didn't understand!

And it helps explain how all this can fit in a half-height unit too!

Conrad C. Nobili  N1LPM  Conrad_Nobili@Harvard.EDU  Harvard University OIT
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From: capehart@cs.swarthmore.edu (AC Capehart)
Subject: 3-button mouse question
Organization: Swarthmore College, PA
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 18:23:28 GMT

In the faq, I read glowing support for the gravis super mouse.  However,
when I called up mac connection, they said that it would not work under
system 7.0.1.  I am using a Mac Quadra running MacX until I get on an
ethernet at which point I will be using A/UXs X11 (until which point I have
downloaded Eberhardt's X11R5) and I would really like a 3-button mouse.  In
addition to incompatibility, they (mac connection) are backorderd.  Is it a
mac connection ploy to get me to wait and order from them when they aren't
backordered?  Is Super Gravis still making them?  I would like a 3-B mouse
soon, but I want a compatable one too.  Does anyone have the latest on this
continuing saga?

Thanks in advance,

AC Capehart
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From: koch@eis.cs.tu-bs.de (Andreas Koch)
Subject: Western Digital SP4200 HFS HD doesn't mount under 2.0.1!
Organization: TU Braunschweig,Informatik,EIS,West Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 20:42:35 GMT

After I got a new 200MB HD for MacOS, I discovered that it wouldn't mount
under A/UX 2.0.1 (I ordered 3.0 months ago ...). Instead, the following
error message appears on startup/logout from command shell:

Disk write c0d0s30 Error: Illegal request, code = 0x1A
generic disk c0d0s30 Fatal Error: Logical block 0, physical block 0

The disk works perfectly under MacOS and Silverlining (5.31) verifies it
as 100% OK. According to SCSIProbe 3.4, the disk's version is 4.03.

What do I have to do (different driver, fooling with partitions ...) to get
it to mount under A/UX? The disk contains only a single HFS partitions, so the
multiple partition mount problem couldn't occur. Or should I wait for 3.0 before
investing time in making it work under 2.0.1? Any help is appreciated!!

Thanks in advance,
	Andreas Koch
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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: FMbackup version 1.0.4
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:55:10 GMT

I've just noticed that when using FMbackup, I get the "Backing up
your file system cache..." window but NOT the "Finishing up..."
one... The .Desktop.Z file is created Okay though...

Any idea what gives?
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                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

           "The great scallop... this tatty, scrofulous old rapist,
               is second in depravity only to the common clam."
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From: mann@intacc.uucp (Jeff Mann)
Subject: Re: Making a jump to 3.0
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 1992 23:03:36 GMT
Organization: Inter/Access' Matrix BBS

In article <814@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov> jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:
>ejbehr@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Eric Behr) writes:
>>for some surprises? In particular, under 2.0.1 I had to install the patched
>>versions of tar, mail, adduser, cron -- are these fixed in the 3.0
>>distribution?
>
>Yep, the versions available under 3.0 don't require these patches...

...make sure you get the updated version of HDB uucp from Apple.

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From: weinhous@RadOnc.Duke.EDU (Marty Weinhous (guest))
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: ksh man and PAGER ?
Date: 31 Jul 92 12:41:13 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Radiation Oncology, Hahnemann U, Phil PA, 215/448-8616
Originator: weinhous@roentgen.RadOnc.Duke.EDU

I recently (1) switched to ksh and (2) installed "less" (v 170) from
jagubox (thanks Jim).

Now I would like "man" to use "less" rather than "more". I tried setting
PAGER to /usr/local/bin/less, but got scrambled man pages (lots of
escape characters rather than bolds, etc.). Attempts to fix this by
setting TERM to vt100 caused a chane in appearance, but not a fix.

Would someone please tell me how to use "less" as the default pager
for "man"? As always, thanks in advance.

- Marty


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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: After Dark (was: FMbackup..)
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:17:49 GMT

spencer@panix.com (David Spencer) writes:

>jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:

>>Just a further followup... AfterDark version u -or- v work just fine.

>After Dark (including u and v) seriously slows down a/ux 3.0 on my
>IIci. It had no noticeable effect on 2.0.1, but it roughly doubles
>screen redraw and keyboard response under 3.0. sigh.

I haven't noticed this on my Q900...

Anybody else see this as well... if so, it sounds like an item for the FAQ...
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                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

           "The great scallop... this tatty, scrofulous old rapist,
               is second in depravity only to the common clam."
From: dominic@onions.natcorp (Dominic Dunlop)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Mac accelerators and A/UX 3.0
Summary: Which (if any) work on a Mac IIx?
Date: 27 Jul 92 12:25:57 GMT
Organization: British National Corpus, Oxford University, GB

I have a Mac IIx and I want to make it run A/UX faster, as a possibly-
cheaper alternative to trading it in for a Quadra 700.  Anybody around
here had any success with accelerators and A/UX?  Last time I asked,
the Radius Rocket disn't support A/UX.  Anybody know whether Daystar's
PowerCache series (or any other accelerator, for that matter) does?

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From: tmarsh@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Kassandra)
Subject: A/UX on a IIsi? (Need advice quick!) 
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 00:44:30 GMT

   I have a few questions about running A/UX on a IIsi.  Apple's back to
school prices are really good right about now ($1406 for a 5MB/80MB
drive IIsi) and I'm thinking about running A/UX on one.  I've looked
into upgrading to whatever I need between 8 and 17 MB and that isn't too
bad ($139 per 4 MB SIMM).


   My concern is with disk space and speed.  Would a
IIsi be prohibatively slow to run A/UX well? (I know it CAN run A/UX,
but it it worth running it?)


   Would a cache card like Daystar Digital's
FastCache or Combocache IIsi, or Applied Engineering's Quicksilver cache
card help?  If so, how much?  The Daystar Powercache is a little too
expensive, but the Combocache can apparently be upgraded later to a
Powercache.


   Is an 80 MB hard drive too small for general use? From everything I
have read here, it is, but Apple does offer a IIsi setup, as I quote
from the price list I got:


"B0860LL/A  Macintosh IIsi 9MB Hard Disk 90 CPU  Educ. Price: $2624
  Includes IIsi A/UX CPU w/Adapter Card (M1410LL/A) and A/UX CD-ROM
Product (M0598LL/B)."

Could this system run A/UX well?  And what is the adapter card
(M1410LL/A)? Is this card necessary to run A/UX? 

Could I just as easily buy a IIsi (the place has _one_ IIsi in stock by
accident) and add some ram,and the A/UX product (which comes with
manuals, while the pre-installed system does not) or do I need this 
adapter card?

Now economic questions...Would I be better off buying a IIci to begin
with or even a Quadra 700 (but those are SOOOOO expensive comparatively)

About hard drives...How much are hard drives running (around 200MB
external)? If I'm going to have to buy one, is it better to just buy a
better system like the IIci? Are there any recomendations for relatively
low-priced hard drives suitable for A/UX?
 

Now for my last question...Will an external ethernet box run through
SCSI work with A/UX?  My dorm rents them for the school year and I
wonder if it will work with this system.


Thank you one and all for reading this, and even more thanks if you can
answer any of these questions. (this is by far my longest post ever :-)


Tanya

tmarsh@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
From: lkimes@alshain.usc.edu (Lance 'Moof' Kimes)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Question for beta testers
Date: 21 Jul 1992 16:51:34 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: alshain.usc.edu


In article <1992Jul21.215714.8325@newsgate.sps.mot.com>, root@gpb-mac. writes:
|> Back when A/UX 3.0 was in early beta test Apple Marketing offered a free
|> copy of the final version to testers who sent in their comments.
|> 
|> Has anybody recieved a free copy?  I'm still waiting for mine and figure
|> I should see if any free copies shipped before calling the Apple Rep.
|> 
|> thanks in advance
|> 
|> 
|> --
|> Greg Berryman       gpb@gpb-mac.sps.mot.com
|> Motorola Inc.       Austin Texas

I got mine about two after the began shipping.

Lance Kimes
Systems Programmer
USC
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
From: dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu (David Manning)
Subject: Re: Mac accelerators and A/UX 3.0
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 18:07:24 GMT

jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:

>If you go for the IIfx logic board swap, it'll run about $2000 plus another
>chunk of change for replacement RAM... In fact, you may no longer be able
>to _get_ the IIfx board.

As of late May, the IIfx upgrade was still available, for a list price of      
$2599. You should be able to get if for about $2000, like Jim said.

IMHO, however, the Daystar path is a better one. It goes directly through
the processor socket, replacing the existing 030 on the IIx, plus you
don't have to worry about the oddness of the IIfx. Daystar is also good
with respect to customer support.

>If you do get the IIfx board see if you can find someone with a II who wants
>to upgrade to a IIx... You sell him your IIx logic board and you take
>his/her II board and then upgrade to the IIfx... The selling price of your
>IIx board will offset the upgrade cost to the IIfx.

Isn't capitalism great? :-)

>==============================================================================
>#include <std/disclaimer.h>

>                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
>          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

>           "The great scallop... this tatty, scrofulous old rapist,
>               is second in depravity only to the common clam."

Dave
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From: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Subject: Re: FMbackup version 1.0.4
Reply-To: jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski)
Organization: NASA/Goddard Space Flight Center
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 14:05:43 GMT

jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:

>I've just noticed that when using FMbackup, I get the "Backing up
>your file system cache..." window but NOT the "Finishing up..."
>one... The .Desktop.Z file is created Okay though...

Well, I discovered that it's an incompatibility with Moire... once I
took Moire out, all worked fine.
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                Jim Jagielski                  NASA/GSFC, Code 734.4
          jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov             Greenbelt, MD 20771

           "The great scallop... this tatty, scrofulous old rapist,
               is second in depravity only to the common clam."
From: ron@afsg.apple.com (Ron Flax)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: AU/X 3.0 on PowerBook?
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:41:50 GMT
Followup-To: comp.unix.aux,comp.sys.mac
Organization: Apple Federal Systems Group


 In article <1992Jul21.111200.8819@solaris.rz.tu-clausthal.de>,
bugow@sunslc.imw.tu-clausthal.de (Rainer Bugow) wrote:
> According to an article in the german MACUP magazine (issue 3/92) 
> AU/X runs on a PB 170. Limited by the currently available internal HD (80 MB)
> you should be able to install a small AU/X (i.e. without man pages).

This is flat out wrong!  A/UX (any version) does not run on any PowerBook
computer.  Not the 100, not the 140, not even the 170! Period.  The end.

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ron@afsg.apple.com
Apple Federal Systems Group
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From: marcelo@deadzone.princeton.edu (Marcelo Gallardo)
Subject: ISDN and A/UX 3.0
Summary: ISDN and A/UX
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:52:56 GMT
Organization: DeadZone * A/UX 3.0 SVR2 * 609-275-1833
Keywords: ISDN A/UX


	Hey all. Is anyone out here doing some work with ISDN and A/UX?
	Anyone know what might be needed, besides the ISDN line and some
	kind of box to make the connection, in order to get it to work
	with A/UX?

	Anyone with any helpful pointers will be thanked (sorry I'm
	poor).

	Marcelo -

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From: alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: Chicken and egg syndrome..
Date: 21 Jul 92 08:55:58 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix, NYC

halpin@xcalbr.dsg.dec.com (Steve Halpin) writes:
>Its been a while since I installed 2.0.1 (still evaluating the CD-ROM
>drive situtation before going to 3.0) but I recall that I was given
>a choice among a few options, and I chose it at that point, without
>the option of entering a new one.  I thought the way the Berkeley
>file system was layed out when it was first created defined the
>geometry the system would use for that drive.  Can updating the
>geometry after the fact give you any gain?

Not without "newfs"ing the partition. But tunefs will affect it.

>Also, I picked up a new 400MB Quantum drive for 3.0.  Am I better
>off using Silverlining to format it and put down a new file system
>on it using 2.0.1 from my other drive so that I do get the geometry
>right from day one, or am I better off using all the Apple formatting
>provided with 3.0?  -Steve

For best results, edit etc/disktab and use newfs under 2.0.1. For easiest
aceptable results, use 3.0's setup stuff.

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From: tody@noao.edu (Doug Tody)
Subject: Re: Mac accelerators and A/UX 3.0
Reply-To: tody@noao.edu
Organization: National Optical Astronomy Observatories
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:35:33 GMT

In article <dmanning.712260444@cwis>, dmanning@cwis.unomaha.edu (David Manning) writes:
> jim@jagubox.gsfc.nasa.gov (Jim Jagielski) writes:
> 
> >If you go for the IIfx logic board swap, it'll run about $2000 plus another
> >chunk of change for replacement RAM... In fact, you may no longer be able
> >to _get_ the IIfx board.
> 
> As of late May, the IIfx upgrade was still available, for a list price of      
> $2599. You should be able to get if for about $2000, like Jim said.
> 
> IMHO, however, the Daystar path is a better one. It goes directly through
> the processor socket, replacing the existing 030 on the IIx, plus you
> don't have to worry about the oddness of the IIfx. Daystar is also good
> with respect to customer support.

Well ok, you can go either way I guess.  The IIfx does have some advantages
which haven't been mentioned, namely better serial port hardware and disk
DMA.  I am not familiar with the Daystar but I would guess that since it
replaces the 030 all it does is provide a faster cpu.  To me offloading the
serial and disk i/o was as important as the faster cpu.  For a few hundred
dollars more than the Daystar you get both the custom i/o processors and
a faster cpu, and end up with a standard system.

As Jim says, someone who has already invested a lot of money in RAM for the
IIx might have a good reason to get an accelerator.  Back when I upgraded
to the IIfx I had only 8 Mb of 1 Mb SIMMs on the IIx (essentially worthless
these days!).

Doug Tody	National Optical Astronomy Observatories
tody@noao.edu   P.O. Box 26732, Tucson, Arizona, 85726
From: dswartz@redondo.sw.stratus.com (Dan Swartzendruber)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: LONG ravings about disk geometry. (was: Re: /etc/disktab entry for Quantum LP240S)
Date: 28 Jul 92 03:43:09 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer, Software Engineering

In article <1992Jul25.092236.453@panix.com> alexis@panix.com (Alexis Rosen) writes:
>Yesterday I posted a miniflame about Dan S. not paying attention, re: the
>disktab entry for 400MB seagates.
>
>Well, I can't be sure, but that file may not contain the entry after all. (I
>don't have a 3.0 final /etc/disktab to check for sure.) Sorry, Dan.
>

I've been away for a long weekend, so I've been reading my news over a
2400-baud dialin (masochist, I know!).  I didn't see this posting until
my reply to your miniflame.

>On the other hand, it most definitely _was_ posted just a few days ago...

Thanks, I'll look through the back postings...

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From: mlanett@Apple.COM (Mark Lanett)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.aux
Subject: Re: BullDozer problem in AUX 3.0 on Quadra 700
Keywords: bulldozer, bug, aux
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:12:09 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

tromo@rice.edu (Tod Romo) writes:

>Hello,
>	We have been seeing a rather strange problem while running
>TextEditor under AUX 3.0 on a Mac Quadra 700.  Periodically, TextEditor
>will break spontaneously break sending us into MacsBugs.  When hitting
>'es' the drive light then begins blinking, the GUI locks, but the cursor
>is still active and changes from the std pointer to a bulldozer.
>Hitting the `break` button again and yet another 'es' then gives full
>control back over the mac.  We are using v6.2.2 of MacsBugs.  Has anyone
>seen anything like this?  Thanks!

A bulldozer cursor in MPW was a sign that there wasn't enough memory; I think
TextEditor may still have enough in common that this would apply there also.
Then again, not having used A/UX since 2.1, I may have no idea what I'm 
talking about.
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