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Subject:      poetry in notion (noney)
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August 20, 1992 (for Katerina & Sebastian)

The sky decided that after all it could break and fall
And began to split apart into jagged chunks of blue
It rained Albatross in London for a week w/o reprieve
Lorca poked his head up out of the grave
And seeing the shadow of the 20th century
  still stretched across the land
Popped back into his hole for another
  six years bad weather
I took a look at the Calendar
And oh those curvey lines
Sent titilating shiivverrs down my spine
And with heart in stomache
Squeezed out all possible bodily fluids
And with a groan failed onced more to get out of bed

:^##


A Snake and a Flower Converse

Snake says:  Experience says to everything:  "Geography buddies form
             formulas for that positive attitude."
Flower says:  Look for any ideas you disagree with.  Focus on purpose
              together.

;^##


Insipient Groups of the World of Today, August 20, 1992

i.
To the end
The Research shows
They do it all the time
I guess it's been a year and a half
Four kids who had gotten together
And so they just did everything together
They had other social lives, but
If they could do it together they'd do it
And the Research stronly suggests
    that there's a reason for that
I mention the different names
I mean, they go by lots of different names
Committees, call yourself a committee

ii.
Texts even end.
Credit ways help.
Text, ah, and peer--
I function peer-responding.
But the earlier composition
On stage process inside hopes
One is a writer.  It's instead
A friend to me, success;
Cause others to get the problem,
The writer, here's a good one,
Performs, that is, of brainstorming.
There's no reason why.

iii.
Readers to put on organizing
Normally continue.  They thought
Language rough.  They draft holds,
Morgan up composition of collaborative other.
Let them go on.

iv.
American seating
Grand Central Station
One failure key is your own commitment.
Work yourself; I do encourage it.
I went there one year and was scarey
  to incredible touch bonds.
So-- get up something smart, an exchange.

;^##


Snake and Flower Converse (on the hollowness of dead trees)

Snake says to Flower:  Funny, my feet were with me along up till now.
                       What is it?  What's that smell in the air?
Flower says to Snake:  Oh snake.  How could you not know?

:^##
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Subject:      More Songs About Food and Buildings
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>  All who've gather'd should listen dear
>       To my talk of bygone woe
>  So you should know the dangers that lie
>       In denying the blood its flow.
>
>  Finding myself to be quite famished,
>       I searched both low and high
>  For a bite, a scrap, a morsel, a crumb,
>       But my pantry was bone dry.
>
>  Then feeling the pangs nearly bowl me over
>       I knew that I must eat,
>  I recalled those words a friend once wrote:
>       "The liver's a special treat!"
>
>  I pulled the silverware from its drawer
>       And spread it on the ground;
>  I looked and grinned an evil grin
>       At the julienne I had found.
>
>  I wasted no time, took no precautions,
>       The cut it was a good on';
>  Much blood was there, but I kept on carving
>       Through my flesh like so much puddin'.
>
>  At last I had it, or maybe my kidney,
>       By now my mind had left me;
>  I double-fried it, right then and there,
>       No chef could have been so deftly.
>
>  I sunk in my teeth right through the meat
>       Pleased my hunger to appease;
>  The flavo(u)r good, though not for long:
>       My life had run out its lease.
>
>  Oh, glory to God in Heaven above
>       And may He continue to guide us;
>  I'm gone to see Him in a short time
>       From Grade B Hepatitis.
>
>
>            --M

   Bravo!  That was great!  Definitely a change of pace...



   And now for something I got from Mad Magazine:

    Come bowl with me this evening dear
    And we will kill twelve cans of beer
    We'll join the others on the team
    And eat three quarts of peach Ice Cream
    And in between each frame we bowl
    We'll have a burger on a roll
    A dozen hot dogs, a sack of fries
    A meatball and two apple pies
    Come bowl with me, you really should
    the exercise will do us good.


            --Jeffrey
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 17:24:24 EDT
From:         FRANCES <YFPE0025@VM1.YORKU.CA>
Subject:      RE: How's it that...
              29 Jul 1992 23:58:09 MDT from <sandilands@HG.ULETH.CA>

YOUR COMMENTS ON THE SEEDING OF SWIMMING EVENTS IS VALUABLE
INFORMATION FOR THOSE WHO ARE FAMILIAR WITH THE SPORT...IT IS
UNFORTUNATE THAT THE TV COMMENTATORS DID NOT EXPLAIN THE SEEDING
PROCESS FOR THE VIEWING PUBLIC.  I AM SURE THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC
WOULD NOT HAVE ANY IDEA ABOUT THE WAY SWIMMING IS SEEDED.  JUST AS
AN AFTER THOUGHT...IT USED TO BE (IN OLDEN DAYS!) THAT THE OUTSIDE
LANES WERE CONSIDERED "SLOWER" MAINLY BECAUSE OF THE BACKWASH FROM
THE WALLS...NOW YOU SEE A SET OF LANE MARKERS ALONG THE WALL TO
CUT DOWN ON THE BACKWASH...EACH LANE THUS HAS TWO SETS OF LANE MARKERS,
ONE ON EACH SIDE...SWIMMINGLY YOURS...
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 15:00:29 CST
From:         Bob Lowe <BOBL@VM1.UCA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: anatomy software
X-To:         Exercise and Sports Psychology
              <SPORTPSY%TEMPLEVM.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>
              27 Aug 1992 11:15:00 PDT from
              <IAQKAFA%UCLAMVS.BitNet@pucc.PRINCETON.EDU>

Dear Anita:
     The following may be found in the Intellimation Library for the Macintosh
Spring 1992 Higher Education Software Catalog (1-800-346-8355):
     Neuroanatomy Foundations
     Cochlear Anatomy
     Occular Anatomy

     The following is listed in the Dustin Discount Software Summer 1992
catalogue (1-800-274-6611):
     Bodyworks

     Mac Discussion lists (all listings are Bitnet addresses):
Info-Mac@irlearn - Info-Mac List
Info-Mac@ricevm1 - Info-Mac Digest
Mac-L@Yalevm - Macintosh news and information
Macappli@Dartcms1 - list for posting news and usage tips about...........

There may be other discussion lists as well, contact your local Listserv for
an updated list of Listserv Lists.

Good Luck with your endeavors and dance/movement is not that far removed from
physical therapy!

Bob Lowe <BOBL@VM1.UCA.EDU> (Internet)
Department of Kinesiology, The University of Central Arkansas
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From:         "Dr. John C. Biddle" <JCBIDD01@ULKYVM.LOUISVILLE.EDU>
Subject: RE: ALTITUDE ADAPTION

Associate Professor Information Science & Data Processing
PHONE: (502) 588 - 6121
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From:         Anita Faye <IAQKAFA@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      anatomy software

I want to thank the many responses regarding anatomy programs for the Mac.
I am just in the beginning stages of study for my prerequisites to then apply
for a MA in PT (a big career change, I've been involved in video and dance).
If anyone has any positive suggestions, ancedotes, etc regarding PT and the
future of PT, I would love to hear!

Thank again for the software tips.

Anita Faye
UCLA
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Date:         Thu, 27 Aug 1992 08:56:24 EDT
From:         "E. Danganan" <danganan@NADC.NADC.NAVY.MIL>
Subject: Re: anatomy software
X-To:         SPORTPSY%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@pucc.princeton.edu

	A. Faye :
		I faintly remember a Science feature on TV that discussed a
tutorial software using HyperCard format for training in
knee surgery. Caveat: ( I only saw this as a sound bite ...) . Anyway it was
 only on trail basis
 for interns in surgery. So ... I hope I have
showed a faint direction to look at or else I may have to put on my asbestos
 suit.
							Meekly Closing ....
							E .D. D.
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From:         MARKO <MARKO@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU>

Please put me on the sportpsy list. Thanks MARKO@CORRAL.UWYO.EDU
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From: osborn@socs.uts.edu.au (Tom Osborn)
Subject: Re: Altitude adaption
Organization: Computing Sciences, Uni of Technology, Sydney.
Date: 27 Aug 92 03:39:27 GMT


Tai Chi at 11000 ft was fine...

...but my stools appeared to float higher than usual - if gut bacteria 
produced the same mass of gas, the volume would be ~30% greater at that 
altitude.  This could have consequences of bloating and pain, espec for
strenuous activity. (I've never seen any documentation).

Tomasso.

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From:         Anita Faye <IAQKAFA@UCLAMVS.BITNET>
Subject:      anatomy software

Does anyone know of any software for the Mac that is geared for the study of
anatomy?  I have heard of programs for IBM but none for the Macintosh.  Any
suggestions?

A. Faye
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:42:50 CDT
From:         Jackie Goldstein <JLGOLDST@SAMFORD.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Graduate Programs in the Study of Sport

I am interested in obtaining a copy of the 3rd edition of the AAASP Directory.
Please send necessary information.
Thanks,
Jackie Goldstein, Samford University
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From:         Thomas David Rivers <sastdr@UNX.SAS.COM>
Subject:      Re: X/Motif user interface for VM and/or MVS.
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  Well, I would like to offer to anyone a copy of my SHARE talk, entitled
"Porting X and X applications to MVS/CMS", (and foils) in postscript form,
or just the paper as plain text.  I can send this, via EMAIL, or I'm
pretty sure I can entreat SAS to mail you a copy.

  Dick Sims is correct when he mentioned that the foils/handouts were
superficial; I tend to do that to give me something to talk about when
I speak, instead of simply reading the foils.  The paper says just about
everything I said in my talk.

    - Dave Rivers -
    (sastdr@unx.sas.com)
--
UPDATE ALL INFORMATION AND POD INTO COSMOS - Federal Express
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:04:34 CDT
From:         Tim Stoodt <TCSMAINT@NUACVM.BITNET>
Subject:      IND$FILE and Netware 3270 LAN.

Hi,
   I have a user who is using "Novell Netware 3270 LAN Workstation 1.2"
to connect to our VM/XA system.  He can't seem to upload files to the host.
(He can't download either).  He is connected via controller to our MVS
system which is linked to VM via a real CTCA.  He is also using a session
manager TPX which runs on MVS.
   He says he can upload to MVS without any problems.  When he tries to
upload to VM it just hangs and then times out.  When he toggles back to his
VM session he has a blank screen with the cursor in the upper left corner.
He is unable to enter any commands and has to be forced off.  Has anyone
else seen this problem?  I had him spool a console when he tried it but
all I see is the command from the PC.

Ready; T=0.01/0.01 15:21:05
IND$FILE PUT hroplene txt a1 (ascii crlf lrecl 75 recfm(f)
fl
CONNECT= 00:02:13 VIRTCPU= 000:02.29 TOTCPU= 000:02.68
LOGOFF AT 15:22:49 CDT TUESDAY 09/01/92 BY OPERATOR

This is the IND$FILE that I have.  Is this an old one?  Is there a newer
one available that might work?

IND$FILE MODULE   Y2
FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL       RECS     BLOCKS   DATE     TIME
IND$FILE MODULE   Y2 V      19768          3          6  5/27/88 13:27:13
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 10:33:19 EDT
From:         CCRS@BUACCA.BITNET
Subject:      Re: Logoff/force pending

The userids are obviously hung on I/O to the 3274.  If bringing the
3274 back into service doesn't clear the condition, you can try
issuing a CP HALT against the virtual machine terminal address.
Naturally, try it with a non-Operator id first.  If Operator gets
forced off, CP will make another Class A userid the operator, so be
prepared for that.  (Who's the operator?  You can find out via the
SYSOPER field in the SYSCM block.)  Alternately, you could try
resetting the VMDFORCE/VMDLOGOF bits in the VMDBK; but based upon
prior experience with altering bits, I'd rather do an IPL.
       Dick Sims, Boston University, Office of Information Technology
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 11:11:32 CDT
From:         Dave Ulrick <A01DGU1@NIUCS.BITNET>
Subject:      Cornell Minidisk Manager, VM/XA SP 2.1, and ACF2/VM 3.2

I'm currently installing the above software.  Both the Minidisk Manager
and ACF2 install hooks into CP.  MDM uses CP source mods, whereas ACF2
inserts its hooks during VMFBLD.  As of VM/SP 5.0, the MDM mods to
DMKLNK cooperated nicely with ACF2; the ACF2 hooks got control, and
ACF2 validation took place for links to MDM minidisks.  However, as
of VM/XA SP 2.1, the MDM mods bypass the code in HCPLNK that invokes
HCPLNKRV (RACF link validation).  ACF2 hooks into the call to HCPLNKRV
so it gets control to validate the link.  Since MDM's HCPLNK mods
branch directly to LNKEXIT after MDM succeeds in giving the user the
link, ACF2 is never called to validate the link.  Thus, there is
effectively no ACF2 security for MDM-managed minidisks.  Does anyone
have a fix to the MDM mods to HCPLNK that causes RACF/ACF2/whathaveyou
validation to be called?  I reported this problem to Cornell over a
month ago, and have heard nothing since.  Therefore, I'd love to hear
from someone who has already fixed this problem.

Thanks!
Dave

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Dave Ulrick                         Bitnet:    A01DGU1@NIU    (MVS/XA)
Northern Illinois University                   A01DGU1@NIUCS  (VM/SP)
DeKalb, IL, USA                     Internet:  a01dgu1@vm.niu.edu
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Date:         Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:34:00 EDT
From:         Richard Steed <STEED@UNCVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Misc
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              VMESA-L@UAFSYSB.BITNET, IBMTCP-L@PUCC.BITNET

      Greetings-

       *** Please forgive the cross-posting ***

          I have 4 questions (only 4 ???) about some PD software. Any and
 all help will be GREATLY appreciated!!!!!

          1. Has anyone gotten GOPHER to work in a VM/XA or VM/ESA
             environment?

          2. Has anyone gotten UNICORN to work with a TCP/IP interface?

          3. Has anyone gotten WAIS from Thinking Machines to work on VM?
             (Ive had a heck of a time w/the ascii<->ebcidc translations)

          4. Does anyone have a version of CURSES for VM?


                                thanks-for-any-help
                                        Richard


  Richard M. Steed                      Office of Information Technology
  VM Systems Programmer                 University of North Carolina
  STEED@UNCVM1.BITNET                   Chapel Hill, North Carolina
  STEED@UNCVM1.OIT.UNC.EDU              Phone  (919) 962-6501
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Date:         Tue, 25 Aug 1992 13:25:52 EDT
From:         Wayne Smith <WTS@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: X/Motif user interface for VM and/or MVS.

Hi Dave,

Thanks for the "Porting X..." offer!  We'd like to have a copy of the
postscript file.  If you can do a SENDFILE on BITNET, great!  (I am
WTS@MAINE).  If you try E-mail, I am at wts@maine.maine.edu

Thanks!

Wayne T. Smith, CCP
Systems Group - CAPS              BITNET/CREN:  wts@maine
University of Maine System        internet:     wts@maine.maine.edu

P.S. It's great to see so many SAS folks active at SHARE!
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 10:19:56 PDT
From:         "Dwight M. McCann" <DWIGHT@UCSBVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Continuing Alternate Nucleus Mods Problems

Well, we've found an additional problem with our "fix" for IIO003.  The
system apparently program checks at SHUTDOWN.  We didn't see this in the
second level system, probably because of the screen steals by CP that
clear the last things written to the console.  We didn't see it in the
first level system because we hadn't done SHUTDOWNs.  I will be
investigating when there is a dump and I have some time.  If anyone else
finds the problem, I'd really appreciate hearing about it.

Dwight McCann
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Date:         Fri, 4 Sep 1992 12:34:23 CDT
From:         Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>
Subject:      *IDENT and LFSADM and WLFS with IUCV

Hi,

        I got to play with WLFS and am psyched!   This is slick!
But life is not 100% rosey,  yet.   I can't get WLFS to make itself
available to MAINT and friends acting as administrators.

        The book says to put the line:

                IUCV *IDENT RESANY GLOBAL

                        in the directory entry for the WLFS service VM.
VMSECURE didn't like that.   (now,  I could be seeing a VMSECURE prob)
Is *IDENT new in ESA?

Rick Troth <TROTH@RICEVM1.RICE.EDU>, Rice University, I/S VM Systems Support
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From:         "A. Harry Williams" <HARRY@VM.MARIST.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Logoff/force pending

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:11:07 EDT Bill Williams said:
>
>As long as the System thinks OPERATOR is living in any form, there are
>things directed to him.  When you fake out the OPERATOR control blocks
>(poking in dummy userid, etc.) the operator userid is freed so you can
>logon to him; however, the ghost's control blocks are still out there
>and CP about halfway thinks that THEY are the operator, and about
>one-fourth thinks the new logon is the operator, and about one-fourth
>hemorrhages in the confusion.  My experience: slow, painful, death to the
>running System.  (Yep. I tried that.  ONCE!)
Probably because you are using OPERATOR as the name of the virtual
machine that you usually have as the VM system operator.
Try this little fun experiment.  Log off OPERATOR, and logon
some other class A user, and then log on OPERATOR.  Now try to
send a message to OPERATOR.  There are a couple of things
special you need to do for the OPERATOR, which of course are
dependant on the version of VM you are running.
>
> ---------------------------------------
>   Bill Williams -- ETSU Systems Support
/ahw
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Comments:     Originally-From: Melvin Klassen <KLASSEN@UVVM>
From:         Jerry Harris <HARRIS@WKYUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: CPWATCH

Does anyone have info on CPWATCH XA version or what TRACKXA does??
Thanks,
Jerry Harris
HARRIS@WKYUVM
----------------------------Original message----------------------------
In article <VM-UTIL%92090309451432@OHSTVMA.IRCC.OHIO-STATE.EDU>, you say:
>
>We used to run a utility from the Waterloo tapes called CPWATCH.  When we
>migrated to VM/XA, there was no XA version. Is anyone running CPWATCH on
>XA and are you willing to share it??  If so, please send it to me through
>BITNET.
>
I've heard about a package out of Princeton University, named 'TRACK'
and 'TRACKXA', but have never seen in it action.
Perhaps, the subscribers of the VMXA-L@UGA list can fill you in!
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:33:12 EDT
From:         Bill Williams <CMS2@ETSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: IND$FILE and Netware 3270 LAN.

On Thu, 3 Sep 1992 13:04:34 CDT Tim Stoodt said:
>Hi,
>   I have a user who is using "Novell Netware 3270 LAN Workstation 1.2"
>to connect to our VM/XA system.  He can't seem to upload files to the host.
>...stuff deleted...      I had him spool a console when he tried it but
>all I see is the command from the PC.
>
>Ready; T=0.01/0.01 15:21:05
>IND$FILE PUT hroplene txt a1 (ascii crlf lrecl 75 recfm(f)
>fl
>CONNECT= 00:02:13 VIRTCPU= 000:02.29 TOTCPU= 000:02.68
>LOGOFF AT 15:22:49 CDT TUESDAY 09/01/92 BY OPERATOR
>
>This is the IND$FILE that I have.  Is this an old one?  Is there a newer
>one available that might work?
>FILENAME FILETYPE FM FORMAT LRECL       RECS     BLOCKS   DATE     TIME
>IND$FILE MODULE   Y2 V      19768          3          6  5/27/88 13:27:13

That's the same one I have -- I'm running:
VM/XA CMS 5.6, Service Level 205
VM/XA SP Release 2.1, service level 0205
Generated at 04/27/92 15:28:48 EDT
IPL at 05/07/92 02:15:41 EDT

...and use IND$FILE all the time; however, I have a Rexx shell wrapped
around mine to suspend MSG and WNG  so that the transfers don't
get surprise data in there.   Could that be happening?
----------
    B.R.Wms
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Date:         Thu, 3 Sep 1992 12:28:25 CDT
From:         Tim Stoodt <TCSMAINT@NUACVM.BITNET>
Subject:      How do I set up a second level sys?

Hi,
    In a month or so I will be able to free up some DASD volumes.  I'd
like to set up a test system.  I am currently running VM/XA 2.1.  We had
a test system up a year and a half ago which was loaded via Express.  My
memory on how we set it up is vague.  The only reference I have is
GC19-6212-5  Virtual Machine Running Guest Operating Systems (an old
VM/SP HPO book), and the old directory entry of the test machine.  We set
it up when we were migrating from XA 2.0 to 2.1.
     I want the test system to be VM/XA also.  Are there any other manuals
or documents out in netland that can help me out?  I figure since I want
the second level machine to be the same as first level I'll have alot of
read only links to stuff that I need.  I'd like to set it up so that I
can do some test upgrades of a couple of VMCENTER components.  Thanks alot
for any advice. T.S.

ps: I suppose my old Express tapes are useless?
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