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From: wherndon@smiley.mitre.org (William Herndon)
Subject: Re: TNG's FUNNIEST MOMENTS
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean, VA
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:35:33 GMT

In article <1jtee6INNno9@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa687@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Keith Ammann) writes:
>
>Well, being a Worf fan, I have to nominate the scene in Fistful
>of Datas after Alexander has just upped the difficulty of the
>Wild West game, Worf takes on four baddies at once, pausing
>briefly to say, "I am beginning to understand the appeal of 
>this program!"
>
>

    I quite enjoy the scene in TNG's "The Emissary" when, after mating with
    Worf, K'eylar (sp?) looks over at Worf and completely deadpan says,
    "Some exercise programs are better than others."

    Another great moment occurs when Q, after being stripped of his powers,
    is deposited on the Enterprise bridge, and after inquiring as to what
    he should do to prove that he's been kicked of the Q continuim, Worf
    says simply, "Die!"  ;-)

        	        	       	       	       	       	       	       
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From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9: Model or computer generated?
Date: 21 Jan 93 15:47:04 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

>Are the exterior of the stations computer generated or is there
>a model of the space station?
>
>Thanks
>
>
If it's done by the same people who create the graphics for ST TNG, the
answer is "yes"

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these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
From: n9040513@henson.cc.wwu.edu (Andrea Aldridge)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: I completely ag(RE)e
Date: 23 Jan 93 22:56:59 GMT
Article-I.D.: henson.1993Jan23.225659.8934
Organization: Western Washington University

In article <DsJuXB1w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> honeydew@infopls.chi.il.us (David Cohen) writes:
>I think this has been said before, but just glancing at the subject list, 
>the problem seems to be worsening.  There is very little point in 
>prefacing every single subject with "Re:."  

On the other hand, it makes going through the list very quick: I read NOTHING
with RE in the Subject line.



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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Kira Fan List.
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:35:20 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.153323.9483@sx.mont.nec.com> ynecelc@sx.mont.nec.com (Ellison Chan) writes:
>
>Since there are people out there who feel so strongly about
>not wanting the list in r.a.s.c, then I will refrain from posting 
>it.
>
>One thing I would like to add is that I do not agree with the fact
>that this thread is "inane". I do not recall seeing any other
>thread which has generated as much response -- both postitive and 
>otherwise.

Traffic volume does not validate the topic of a particular thread. 
You will always get a large response when you pander to the lowest
common denominator. I just didn't realize how low Usenet's common
denominator is.

>
>So far the list has grown to 97 names, all of them had positive
>comments about Nana Visitor's acting on DS9 and her God given good
>looks. I apologize to those who are not comfortable with this kind
>of discussion on a public access network.

Ah, silly me. I didn't realize the "Kira List" was a discussion. It
looked to me like a long thread of posts saying "Add me to the list,"
with the occasional posting of the list itself. I stand corrected.
Have you considered booking your little debate club on "Firing Line"?

>
>And to the person who planned to start reading rec.arts.books instead
>of r.a.s.c -- we'll miss you. :)

A lot more than I'll miss that list...



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From: ruderg@aix.rpi.edu (Gregory Allen Ruderman)
Subject: Re: BABEL (possible spoilers)
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy, NY
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 20:03:33 GMT

In article <16957.128.uupcb@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> chris.burgess@outlan.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Chris Burgess)  writes:
>ko_mike@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Michael Y Ko) writes:
>
>-> I was just wondering, if the Episode entitled "Babel" named that
>-> because of the babel fish in "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"?
>
>I doubt it. More like it has some reference to the TOS episode, Journey
>to Babel.
>
Possible spoiler info...

I don't suppose that it occured to you that the reference might be to the
biblical story?  Rumor had is that Colm Meany had to learn lines of total
gibberish for this episode.  Evidently O'Brien felt that he was communicating
clearly, but no one else could understand him....

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From: runyan@cup.hp.com (Mark Runyan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: DS9 Grade Report: "A Man Alone"
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:08:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: cup.C1FHDy.1vI
Organization: HP, Cupertino, CA, USA
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Michael Rawdon (rawdon@colby.cs.wisc.edu) wrote:
>Spoilers for the DS9 episode "A Man Alone"...

>Certainly, "A Man Alone" had its problems.  For instance, the cloning premise
>ran afoul of the usual problems that SF TV has with clones - why would they be
>created fully-grown, and why would they have any memories or personality when
>created?  (Ibudan's murdered clone didn't look like a gibbering idiot, after
>all.)  ...

Well, I'll have to ignore what we know about biology and step into
Treknology to explain this one.

First, we have seen (from "Rascals") that there are various sequences
associated with the DNA that are related to aging.  Perhaps the donor's
sequences are incorporated with the DNA to give us the clone, so the
clone will be of the same age as the donor at the time of the donation.
(Of course, in *real* cloning, um, well we don't know how it would work,
 do we?  :-)

As for memory, remember that Treknology tends to believe that some
memory, especially long-term memory, is kept via RNA sequences ( a
theory that may have once been accepted but is no longer), so perhaps
these sequences are transferred via the same donation...

Mark Runyan  {r.a.s. random rationalizer}
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From: bmadsen@dsd.es.com (Bruce Madsen)
Subject: TNG 7th Season
Reply-To: bmadsen@dsd.es.com (Bruce Madsen)
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corp., Salt Lake City, UT
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 16:42:19 GMT

A radio station in the Salt Lake City area stated (during their "Star
Trek Alert" spot) that it has been confirmed that there will be a 7th
Season for TNG, after which they will work on movies. No other details
were given.

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From: ten0772@eafs000.ca.boeing.com (Timothy E. Neto)
Subject: Re: No Vulcans!
Summary: Vulcans in StarFleet.
Keywords: Vulcans in StarFleet.
Organization: be41t
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:21:47 GMT


cstone@husc8.harvard.edu (christopher stone) writes:

>In article <abick.727320709@cunews> abick@sebastian.carleton.ca (Alan Bick) writes:
>>In <tedr-170193191127@mla.cssites.uga.edu> tedr@athena.cs.uga.edu (Ted Kalivoda) writes:
>>
>>>Has anyone noticed that there are no Vulcans as regular characters in
>>>either Stng or DS-9?  This is more than a tragedy.  It must mean either
>>>ther director cannot find good enough actors to fill the part (which I
>>>doubt would really be a primary cirteria since..) or the writers have no
>>>sense at all.
>>
>>>I gladly offer my acting abilities as DS-9 's first Vulcan.
>>
>>I dunno about that. Spock was supposedly the first Vulcan to join
>>Starfleet

>That is not true; remember the Intrepid was staffed largely by Vulcans
>(in TOS).

This is from the episode the Immunity Syndrome(?).  The Intrepid was an
all Vulcan ship.  Until Spock, Vulcan only served on all Vulcan ships.
Also, If I'm correct Spock was the first non-terran to serve on a terran
ship.

So, the question is, Are terran ship the only ones that allow other
species (Non-terran) to serve upon their ships?  Is it that on
Vulcan ships only Vulcan are allowed to serve duty?

Also, due other Federation races use the Vulcan mode of operation. I.E.
only there own race may serve duty on their own ships?



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From: hroth@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Harris Roth)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Net fibs - Was Re: Deforest Kelley Dead
Date: 21 Jan 93 17:16:35 GMT
Organization: NCR Engineering and Manufacturing Atlanta -- Atlanta, GA

rasc, indeed many newsgroups, postings tend to blur the line between truth and
fiction.  Much traffic deals with the probabilities/improbabilities of
Star Trek situations.  Conservation of mass, transporting through shields,
pubescent infatuations - each and every topic contributes to the richness of
our experience.  However, in a world with Howard Sterns and Elvis sightings,
the post that imflames, intentionally or not, should just be junked or killed.
Failing that, sending hate mail as a response to a perceved injustice is
simply the wrong response in this environment.  Everyone across the net seems
to need a healthy dose of tolerance.

With that said, anyone who cannot tolerate my input can flame away.  
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From: novanet@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: WORST EPISODE
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:38:15 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Okay, here's my opinion: (10 is best, 1 is worst)
10) Cost of Living
 9) Half a Life
 8) Coming of Age
 7) Where No One Has Gone Before
 6) The Bonding
 5) The Last Outpost
 4) Reunion
 3) Justice
 2) The Outcast
 1) First Contact
				Just My $0.02,
					ALF
From: parvin1@husc11.harvard.edu (Douglas Parvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: WANTED: Babel babblings
Date: 25 Jan 93 04:56:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.parvin1.727937780

If someone who taped (or will tape) DS9: "Babel" would compile a list of
the sometimes-intriguing babblings of the crew, I'd be most grateful...
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From: glazier@isr.harvard.edu (Andrew Baker Glazier)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Miles O' Brian
Keywords: Miles
Date: 22 Jan 93 21:44:57 GMT
Organization: Harvard University, Cambridge, MA

>Just an observation, but I saw on CNN a reporter that has the same name
>as Colm Meaney's character (Miles O' Brian (sp?)).  Maybe this has been
>brought up before.  If so, it has been brought up again! :-)
>
>By the way, is Colm Meaney related to the actor Kevin Meaney???  Kevin
>"starred" on the Uncle Buck TV series (not that I watched it often,
>just remember the name) and has appeard on other shows.
>
>P.S.  If you want to see the CNN reporter, he hosts Science and
>Technology Week.  It was on Sunday mornings, now I think it is on
>Saturday mornings.
>
Also probably old news, but I just saw "The Commitments" in which Miles
plays the father of the manager of a Dublin band.

-- 
"A horse! A horse! Somebody give me a horse, man, because|glazier@ 
I come to bury this dirtball, not to praise him. Whaddya |harvard.isr.edu
think I am? Whether it's nobler for the mind to make people suffer with all
these totally outrageous arrows arrows for a fortune, or what!" -- D.R.
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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Ship in a Bottle, Hey! No fair!
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 22:05:58 GMT

I tried to follow up to someone's post on this episode,
but the follow failed, so here it is again.  Hope it
makes sense with followign the original post that make
me think to write it in the first place.
Spolier:


About the ending being a surprise to some:

Actually, I feel I should mention that as soon as I saw
Moriarty reappear after Barclay thought he had stored him
I knew when they came back that they would remain in the
holodeck, just believing that they had left it.  I even
wondered why no one figured it out sooner until the rational
half of my brain remembered that only the viewers knew
Moriarty had time to play with the computer before the first meeting.

It was also fairly easy to guess that Picard would pull the same trick
and trap Moriarty in the "pocket universe" inside the holodeck. I
actually think it was rather cruel.  Moriarty is sentient, and
deserves a trial and possible rehabilitation before being locked
in a prison for life.

I had no idea the Countess was for real tho.  I thought
moriarty had created her as a part of his plan, not that
he really loved her and gave her sentience (if he did truly,
and it's not just the computer keeping up with him.)

I can understand his anger at Picard having left him in the
computer never to be thought of again.  Passing the buck and
forgettting all about him was pretty damn unfeeling.  Moriarty
kept his word, you'll note, in giving control of the ship back.


LJC
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From: CXIR@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CXIR)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: <none>
Date: 25 Jan 93 07:00:33 GMT
Organization: McGill University


  ==== >1) Yesterday's Enterprise
  ==== >2) Best of both worlds
  ==== >3) Deja Q
  ==== >--
  ==== >Jan Peters         |E-Mail: jnpeters@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de  +
  ==== >Wuerzburger Ring 39|                                                 +
  ==== >D-w8520 Erlangen   |student of computer-science                      +
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  ==== >Live long and prosper.                                               +
  ==== >======================================================================
  ==== >.
What is the official name of the episode where Picard must learn to
communicate with aliens whose language is made up entirely of metaphors
from their mythology, "Darmakh at Jalad,"or something like that?   I
liked it a lot because it was the first to really grapple with the
problems of intercultural communication in a context where not even the
"universal translator" can help them much. At a deeper level, it goes into
to the
philosophy of language, hermeneutics, and points to the importance of
mythology in all cultures. Too bad I've seen it twice but came in only  or the
for the last twenty minutes of it both times.

Yours, Ian Ritchie.
CXIR@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA
From: lpeters@postmaster@hq.af.mil (Leslie D Peters)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Quality of Life (DSN Spoilers for "A Man Alone")
Date: 25 Jan 93 13:09:13 GMT
Reply-To: lpeters@marge.hq.af.mil
Organization: 7th Communications Group

In article <1993Jan21.010546.10753@wam.umd.edu>, theodore@wam.umd.edu (Theodore Jonathan Casser) writes:
|> In article <1993Jan20.061814.2929@netcom.com> linley@netcom.com (Bruce  
|> James Robrert Linley) writes:
|> > DSN Spoilers for "A Man Alone"
|> > 
|> > Last chance spoiler alert!
|> > 
|> > It looks like we have another glaring inconsistancy on our hands. In "Up  
|> the
|> > Long Ladder" Riker and Pulaski seemed to have no qualms (legal or moral)
|> > about killing their still developing clones. Yet in "A Man Alone," the  
|> clone
|> > was allowed to fully develop and be on its way under the premise that it  
|> was
|> > a living breathing person and had a right to live its life, and that  
|> simply
|> > killing it once the Doctor figured out what/who it was would be wrong.
|> > If "killing your own clone is still murder" then Riker and Pulaski  
|> should be
|> > behind bars. Either that, or some new federation law has been enacted
|> > protecting the rights of clones. Thoughts?
|> > 
|> Another thing to consider is the chain of events leading up to the  
|> creation of the clones.  In "Up the Long Ladder", the cells used to create  
|> the clones were forcefully taken, without the consent of the beings they  
|> were from.  In "A Man Alone", the Bajoran who was cloned chose to clone  
|> himself.  In one way of looking at it, it is like the abortion loophole  
|> that most states restricting abortion have: if it was rape (and creating a  
|> being from the cells of another without consent can be seen as a form of  
|> rape IMHO) then abortion is legal and killing the devleoping being is not  
|> murder.  Using this idea, the crew of DS9 couldn't kill the clone of the  
|> Bajoran, because it really was a living being, "convieved" (sp?) willingly  
|> by the cell donor. (Don't kill me on the abortion analogy, please.)
|> 	Yet another thought on the matter is that in the ST:TNG episode,  
|> the beings they killed were created from their cells, and thus they may  
|> havce felt they had the right to decide to "abort", while the clone of the  
|> Bajoran was _not_ the property of Dr. Bashir or the DS9 crew, so they may  
|> have been legally unable to make that decision.
|> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
|> T.J. Casser  <theodore@wam.umd.edu>
|> "It's not what you know, it's who you know..."
|> Let's go Terps!
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Another tack on this issue is that one sentient being willfully ended 
the life of another sentient being: a/the definition of murder.  The
killing of the _still_developing_ clones of Riker and Pulaski do not
fall into that category.
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From: wolfone@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (no one of consequence)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Clones
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:58:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: geraldo.1k1k8vINN5fb
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
NNTP-Posting-Host: huey.cc.utexas.edu

In article <edjans01.727986778@starbase.spd.louisville.edu> edjans01@orion.spd.louisville.edu (So what's your point?) writes:
]Possible spoilers . . . .
]
]
]Just in case . . . .

]
]In <1993Jan25.170925.17375@newssun.med.miami.edu> dbrown@newssun.med.miami.edu (Daniel Brown) writes:
]
]>In the recent DS9 episode "A Man Alone", or something like that,
]>Sisko and Odo allow the villian's clone to live.  Why?  What would
]>prevent this clone (or, rather, save him) from doing the same thing
]>his original did?
]
]I am under the assumption that clones are autonomous entities.

Most likely so. A clone would not carry the memories and experiences of it's
original. Unless you programmed it with a recording or engram or something.
 


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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: TNG's FUNNIEST MOMENTS
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:14:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.053553.2201@noose.ecn.purdue.edu> ghayden@mixer.ecn.purdue.edu (Gregory K. Hayden) writes:
>  My favorite one liners still come from an earlier Q episode.  Funny how
>  every time Q shows up, the ol' Star Trek humor shows thru :-)  All the
>  Trekkers out there will have to forgive me, I don't remember the title.
>  ( OH, the SHAME!! ;-)   Possible Deja' Q ?
>
>   Q to Riker, "You wern't so stuffy before the beard."
>
>   Q to Worf, "Ah, Worf.  Eat any good books lately?"

And, Q to Worf, "Ah, Microbrain. Growl for me, show me you still love me!"


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From: Jeremy_Reimer@mindlink.bc.ca (Jeremy Reimer)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Attack of the Creeping Accent
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:10:09 GMT
Organization: MIND LINK! - British Columbia, Canada

> Chris Meadows writes:
>
> Msg-ID: <1993Jan25.234116.19920@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>
> Posted: Mon, 25 Jan 93 23:41:16 Org.  : Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of
> Denver Math/CS dept.
>
>
> First we had a French Captain with a British accent, and now we
> have a middle-eastern doctor with a British accent.  What does this
> tell us about the world of the Federation?  France has a British
> accent, Russia has a Russian accent, China has a Chinese accent,
> and the Middle East (or at least the part of it that Dr. Bashir
> comes from) has a British accent.  Seems like Britain has conquered
> a lot of the world--or at least their accent has.  :)
>
> --


Hey, they did it once, why couldn't they do it again?  :)


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