HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: choi@wk59.nas.nasa.gov (Diana Choi)
Subject: Re:  Condoms... was Impact of the absent father
Organization: NAS Program, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 22:46:10 GMT

(Hillel) writes:

>Consumers Report claimed that condoms are 85% effective.  In other words,
>over one year of using condoms, there is 15% probability for an unwanted
>pregnancy.  In 7 years, the expectation is more than 1...
>

I'm sure this is not the place to bring this up ...but what the hell.
So something I've always wondered about is - Why does using a condom
constitute safe sex?  If sperm can sneak by, can't the HIV virus?

diana
From: sb3t+@andrew.cmu.edu (Shirl G. Grant)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Caffeine during Pregnancy
Date: 9 Sep 1992 10:01:31 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
Distribution: usa
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X-Unparseable-Date: Wed,  9 Sep 1992 10:56:03 -0400 (EDT)

Hi.  Congrats.  My doc says 3 servings of caffiene a day, that include
coffee, tea, pop, and CHOCOLATE.  Are you sure you're really "off"
caffeine?
You should ask you doc and see what she says, but generally, they say 3
servings.

Decaf coffee is 99% caffeine free, and regular coffee is something like
68% caffeine free.

-Shirl (5 months preg. with Angelica or Alexander), Mom to RJ, 2 1/2
From: grant@panhed.psc.edu (Shirl Grant)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Amino acids
Date: 11 Sep 1992 11:56:48 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I regularly take Lysine, an amino acid (the one that isn't produced by
the body?).  My doctor said he saw no problems with my usual dose
(suggested doasge).  Is there a consideration that perhaps he missed?

-Shirl
From: lisa@zx11.cactus.org (Lisa Christman Senner)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Caffeine during Pregnancy
Date: 15 Sep 92 04:31:45 GMT
Reply-To: lisa@zx11.cactus.org
Distribution: world
Organization: NOT

amy@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Amy McNulty) writes:
]Well, I suppose it was predictable that someone would post this  
]request, so here it is. Does anyone know the typical caffeine  
]quantities (e.g., cup of coffee or tea, can of coke, etc.)?

SOURCE: Pregnancy and Childbirth, Hotchner:

                           Milligrams of caffeine
coffee (5 oz.):
automatic drip                     110-150
Percolated                         64-124
Instant                            40-108
Decaffeinated                      2-5

Tea:
brewed 5 minutes (5 oz.)           20-50
Iced in can (12 oz.)               22-36

Soft Drinks (12 oz.):
Mountain Dew                       54
Coke, Tab, Diet Coke               46
Pepsi, Dr. Pepper                  38
Pepsi LIght, RC, Diet Rite         36
Ginger Ale, 7up, Orange,     
  Sprite, Fresca, root beer,
  Canada Dry diet cola             0

Chocolate:
Milk chocolate (1 oz.)             6
Baking chocolate (1 oz.)           35
Cocoa beverage (6 oz.)             10

Nonprescription drugs (1 tablet):
Aspirin                            0
Anacin                             32
Midol                              32
Excedrin                           65
No Doz                             100
Dexatrim                           200

-- 

Lisa Christman Senner                       DoD#355 -- K100RS (pillion)
lisa@zx11.cactus.org                        (KotBT)
From: cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Long Ambilical Cord??
Summary: placentas
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:37:34 GMT
Organization: AT&T

> umbilical cords are used in varicose vein repair, I am now wondering ...
> what are placentas used for?
> 
> -- Misty

I heard something about placentas being used for burn victims, or
at least in research to treat severe burn victims. 

 Christine
 mom-2-b in Jan. '93
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: MAHER@agvax2.ag.ohio-state.edu (Cynthia Maher)
Subject: Hair Today, Gone Tomorrow?
Organization: The Ohio State University - OCES
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 10:34:21 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.24

My eight week old baby was born with a full head of hair.  This is a 
first for us, since my two other children were both practically bald.
So far, she doesn't appear to have lost any of it, except for perhaps
a slight receding in the front.

What experiences have others had with baby hair?  People keep telling
us it is going to fall out.  Is this the norm?  If it does fall out,
about how old is the baby when it happens?  I know that every baby is
unique, but if you have a hair loss or hair kept story, I'd love to 
hear it.

Cindy
From: darsie@eecs.ucdavis.edu (Richard Darsie)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: cute things they say (2YO)
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:24:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of California, Davis

Brendan, our 6 year old, has decided (for now) what he wants to be when he
grows up: an animal doctor. But the other day when I was taking him
and Sean, the 2 year old, to the store, Brendan asked Sean, "What
are you going to be when you grow up?"  Sean's practical response?
"I'm gonna be a MAN!"

Richard
Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: david@infopro.com (Dragon [David Fiedler])
Subject: Re: Warning kids about strangers?
Organization: InfoPro Systems: Writers, Consultants, and Dragons
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 17:46:23 GMT

staffan@ca.serum.kodak.com (Kenneth Staffan (x37507)) writes:

>>What is the appropriate age to start talking to children about
>>strangers?

>Our son is only 18 mos, but our friends have 4-yr-old twins.  Another thing
>that they have done (besides talking with the kids) is make sure that they
>can both recite their names, address, phone number (including area code!),
>and parent's names.

Presumably not to random strangers...

-- 
David Fiedler    UUCP:{netcomsv,utoday}!infopro!david               AIR: N3717R
"The future is tekon."   Internet: david@infopro.com or david@utoday.com 
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From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Re: in vitro, or not in vitro?
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 12:58:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.200703.23056@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> kolovson@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com (Curt Kolovson) writes:
>Pardon me if this is a FAQ, but we have been told to consider in vitro 
>fertilization by my wife's OB/GYN.  Does anyone have any experience with 
>this?  I've read about it, and heard things second-hand -- all of which leads
>me not to want to try it.  It costs about $10K a pop (so to speak), and the
>odds are only about 1/3, so the avg cost for a pregnancy is likely to be $30K.

  More like after three tries you'll have a 70% chance of being pregnant.
  After 8 tries you'll be up to 96%, 10 tries, 98%.  For ordinary
  intercourse there is only a 2% chance of pregnancy, so after 128 tries
  you'll be at 98% probability of being pregnant, which is what most people
  do in about a year, thus the guideline of if you've been trying for a
  year...

  The formula is 1 - (1-p)^n  where p is the probability of a trial and
  n is the number of trials.  So let's say that your wife has only a
  1% chance, then you can still calculate the number of tries to get
  a 98%.

>There's also a lot of nasty things to be prepared for, like having them go 
>in and terminate some of the developing embryos if too many are making it 
>in the early stages.  

  One of my coworkers is going through this process and she said there were
  all these legal forms and lawyers to consult, about what to do with
  the frozen embryos, and whose property it was, etc., etc., etc.
  In her case I think her tubes are blown so she has to go this route.
>
>My wife is 41, I'm 35, and we've been trying to have children for about a 
>year (since we've been married).  My wife did get pregnant last December, but
>unfortunately it ended in a miscarriage.  We've been trying since then, but 
>no luck so far.  I know this is fairly "normal", and that we should probably 
>just keep trying and not resort to in vitro, which is my inclination anyway.
>We have been trying lesser things up till now (we do the BBT charts, tried
>the "ovulation predictor kits", she's been taking clomed for several months, 
>and we tried artificial insemination the last 2 months, all to no avail).  
>
>Personally, I have very little faith in "medical technology" and "infertility 
>specialists" in general.

  Just one question, is the OB/GYN affiliated with the "infertility clinic"
  in any way?  I would get a second opinion before embarking on such an
  expensive and lucrative (for the doctors) endeavor.  You should also check
  out the "success" rate of the clinic too.  I read in some magazine (business)
  that these clinics have a high rate of return for the investors, but are
  not regulated in any way in advertising, or standards.
>
>Any in vitro experiences?  Thanks in advance,
>
>	Curt


Newsgroups: misc.kids
From: kgatling@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Keith E Gatling)
Subject: Names
Originator: kgatling@rodan.acs.syr.edu
Organization: Manlius Pebble Hill School; Dewitt, NY
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 18:21:52 EDT

Hmm...after following this discussion Cheryl commented that it seems that
the whole thing boils down to something we can't know about the kid until
long after she's born...whether she'll be one of those who wants to blend in
or one who wants to stick out.  We're both stick out kind of people (and as
I may have mentioned before, it could get rather tedious with more than one
Keith in a class), so I guess that's why stick out names like Devra Marie
and Geordie LeVar appeal to us.

Others have asked what would happen if the kid ended up hating Star Trek.
Well aside from the fact that that idea is almost totally inconceivable to
Cheryl, I keep thinking of my sister.  My parents got her name, Jael, from
two places...a movie they had seen and the Bible.  To this day I'm not sure
if my sister has ever seen that movie or even knows the name of it, and
probably doesn't even care.  I'm pretty sure that she doesn't hate the
Bible.  And after all, for all we know, Star Trek - TNG may be out of reruns
by the time the kid is old enough to possibly have been teased about it
(although I tend to doubt it).  Then there are all those Wendys born in the
mid to late 50s, as a result of parents having seen Peter Pan...I wonder
what they think of that.

So...I think we're set on Devra Marie, and we're set on Geordie, the
question now is will it be Geordie LeVar or Geordie SomethingNormal.  LeVar
does have the added advantage of sounding "ethnic," and my sister asked if
we had considered any ethnic names.
From: bl213@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (K. C. Kelly)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Names
Date: 15 Sep 1992 05:22:30 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Re: Jordan being a name that wouldn't be shortened.  I'm
surprised that you said when the name being discussed was 
"Geordie", even.  I know Jordans who are called Jordy, mostly
just affectionately by family.
From: sgauch@ccs.northeastern.edu (Susan Gauch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Giving into a fad? When do you say no!
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:44:02 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU

In article <1992Sep08.204547.2205588@locus.com> judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes:
>I have found a solution that works for me and Mitchell.  YMMV.  
>
[Description of "The Mommy Store" wherein chores are paid in "jewels" and
toys are bought with "jewels".]

I like this idea, but don't know when I'll get to use it.  Laura (3.6 yo)
doesn't really ask for toys.  Oh, sometimes she looks through catalogues
or responds to commercials with "I'd really like that, Mommy".  I usually
respond with "uh-huh.  Well, we'll see."  or "TV is always trying to
sell something." or whatever.  She rarely asks, doesn't expect us
to rush out and buy something, and never asks for the same thing twice.
She never asks for a new toy when there isn't external stimuli (advertisements
of some sort).  I'm not sure that she actually has any burning desires
for particular toys.  In fact, I'm already racking my brains trying to
think about what to get her for Christmas.  

I think her low-key attitude for toy-asking is because she never goes
toy shopping with us.  We do it without her, hide the toys in the basement,
and bring them out when they seem needed (one of us is away on a trip,
3 weeks with no playgroup and preschool hasn't started yet, 
2 rainy days in a row, etc).  Bigger purchases are saved for
birthdays/Christmas.  We may miss out on her excitement in the store,
and an opportunity to develop her sense of money, but I like the
absence (so far) of "I've got to have ...  I need.... I want ....".
 
-- 
Susan Gauch
sgauch@flora.ccs.northeastern.edu
From: donna@wyse.wyse.com (Donna Diloreto x2231 dept302)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Caffeine during Pregnancy
Keywords: how much?
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:39:36 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wyse Technologies San Jose, Ca


>> (kathleen.a.hildin) writes...
>> 
>>What I was wondering was how much caffeine would/would not
>>be considered safe during pregnancy?  I've consulted 
>
>My doctor told me *no* caffeine, *no* alchohol (of course), and 
				  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>to cut down on my sinus medication as much as possible - now I
>only take tavis D, one pill 3-4 times per week.
>
>- Peggy -

That's funny... My doctor said that in Italy they gave a case of Dego Red
wine to a pregnanct womea to place under her bed.  And that would be her
allocation of wine for the next 9 months! :-) :-)

Seriously, though...  NO caffeine, for sure.  Kathleen, you can try some
of the Water Processed Decaf whole bean coffees out there that taste just
as good as the "leaded" kind. My favorite is Mocha Java.  And the alcohol, 
well...  I didn't finish my case of wine, and probably won't until after 
I finish nursing. :-)  Still, I don't see any problem with a half glass of
wine once a month.  Does that end up with one bottle of wine in 9 months??

Donna
From: larrabee@cse.ucsc.edu (Tracy Larrabee)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Petroleum Jelly (was Re: Cornmeal for baby powder???)
Date: 10 Sep 1992 19:25:12 GMT
Organization: University of California, Santa Cruz (CE/CIS Boards)
NNTP-Posting-Host: arapaho.ucsc.edu

In article <1992Sep09.224133.2207307@locus.com> judy@locus.com (Judy Leedom Tyrer) writes:
>In article <1992Sep9.172758.18455@informix.com> alison@husky.informix writes:
>>
>>Along the same lines, what IS petroleum jelly supposed to be used for?
>>I got 3 jars of it as shower gifts, and they joined the two partially-used
>>jars my husband & I have had since college.  The only thing I've ever used
>>it for is chapped lips.
>>
>

I was at a homebirth on Monday night (now *that* was a worthwhile experience),
and the midwife suggested coating the new little guy's bottom with vaseline
while he was still outputing meconium.  Having heard other parents gripe
about meconium, it sounded like a great idea to me.  The new parents reported
yesterday that the vaseline trick made dealing with meconium a breeze and it
had no ill effects as far as they could see.  He hasn't yet switched
to breastfeeding stools, so I (and perhaps they) do not know what comes
next.

Since I will be giving birth in a hospital (I can't tell you how jealous I
was of my friend being in her own home, controling her environment the way
she wanted, and seeing only who she wanted to see while being attended
by a medically astute midwife), I wonder if it would be possible to use
such a trick.
--
Tracy Larrabee		larrabee@cse.ucsc.edu
From: watrous@aramis.rutgers.edu (Don Watrous)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Long Ambilical Cord??
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:53:03 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

njamal@amherst.edu writes:

>
>                                        Soon after he popped his
>lovely little self out, she said that he had a long cord and that
>that was good.  Does anyone have any information about what the
>significance of having a long cord is??

We got the same comment at the birth of my son 5.5 years ago.  I did
ask why and I think they said that umbilical cords are used to replace
varicose veins in legs.

Don
-- 
{backbone}!cs.rutgers.edu!watrous        watrous@cs.rutgers.edu
Xref: sparky misc.kids:23366 rec.arts.startrek.current:13065
From: steves@gdfwc3 (Steve Strauss)
Newsgroups: misc.kids,rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Names
Date: 14 Sep 92 14:58:28 GMT
	<1992Sep11.155754.23946@informix.com>
Organization: General Dynamics, Fort Worth Division

In article <1992Sep11.155754.23946@informix.com> alison@informix.com (Alison Suggs) writes:

>   My experience is that kids tease other kids, period.  If they have an
>   unusual name, they use that.  If they look funny, they tease them about
>   that.  If they have an ordinary name, they get teased using modifications
>   on the ordinary name (e.g. "Alison, palision, ding-dong, alison" or
>   "Alison Wonderland").  Naming your child John Smith is not going to 
>   same him from teasing at school.

I never doubted that kids tease each other for reasons other than
their name.  I just said that when I was growing up, kids teased those
with unusual names just because they had unusual names.  Sure they
also teased those with "normal" names, but in my experience it wasn't
as much.  So why give the other kids extra ammunition?  This is just
my opinion, which is what the original poster wanted (opinions).
Maybe things have changed a lot since I was a kid.  Why not ask some
*kids* what they would think of having a classmate with the name in
question?
--
======================================================================
Steve Strauss                     gdfwc3!steves@uunet.uu.net
Organization: Student Employment Office, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
From: kaminski@netcom.com (Peter Kaminski)
Subject: Re: Math: Estimating vs Real Thing
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 92 03:17:18 GMT
Organization: The Information Deli - via Netcom / San Jose, California
Distribution: usa

J. S. Comeaux <jsco@usmi02.midland.chevron.com> writes:

>My 5th grader is learning ESTIMATING
[...]

>42,919            becomes          42,000
>-2,689                              2,000
>                                 = 44,000
>then, she "adjusts"
>   919
>   689
>= 1500  plus 44,000 is about (ugh.ugh.ugh) 45,500

Dorothy Neville <neville@cs.washington.edu> writes:

>This however does not, i repeat, does not, mean that I endorse the
>methods that your daughter's teacher is using, on the contrary, I have
>no idea if they are "good" or not.  Estimation ought to be taught more
>as a game, something that boosts confidence in the nature of
>arithmetic.

Makes sense to me.  I'd hope the teacher is communicating the concepts
behind what the kids are supposed to do, not just "lop off these digits
here, add them over there, and throw the sums together and hope it works."

Kids ought to feel comfortable with what they're doing and why they're
doing it.

Besides, 42,919 + 2,689 should *really* be estimated as 43,000 + 2,500. :)

>uggg.  the failure of elementary school teachers to bring math
>to life is one of the reasons I will consider homeschooling when/if
>the time comes.

I've seen it with other subjects, too.  My worst teacher was in high
school -- a super track coach who unfortunately had to teach some real
classes, too.  (Guess why he was hired: for coaching, or for teaching?)

Luckily, I had him for typing, which wasn't critical (though he managed to
botch it pretty well).  He also taught consumer math and introductory
computer programming in BASIC.  Unfortunately, he had learned FORTRAN
instead of BASIC, and couldn't keep the two straight as he taught... :-\
From: bweiss@cs.arizona.edu (Beth Weiss)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Epidurals
Date: 15 Sep 92 19:35:05 GMT
Organization: U of Arizona CS Dept, Tucson

> minx@access.digex.com (minx) writes:
>It goes on, but it's really nasty.  I'd recommend checking with
>an anesthesiologist.

The anesthesiologists I spoke with when I had Jordan (2 months ago)
painted a glowing portrait of an epidural as something to make me
comfortable during labor.  (Then they looked at my chart, and said
they couldn't "help" me--an epidural was contra-indicated.)

This wasn't just one anesthesiologist.  I had a failed induction, and
so went through the "beginning stuff" twice--three different
anesthesiologists came in to sing the praises of epidurals--without
discussing the drawbacks.



--
--Beth Weiss
bweiss@cs.arizona.edu
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From: mpaul@unlinfo.unl.edu (marxhausen paul)
Subject: Re: Names
Organization: University of Nebraska - Lincoln
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:25:49 GMT

I agree that you get used to spelling/correcting your name, when I'm
doing business on the phone it's second nature, "Paul Marxhausen, that's
M-A-R-X-H-A-U-S-E-N...."   (Funny how nobody can pronounce an X right
before an H, I hear "Markhousen" most of the time from folks....)


--
===============================================================================
paul marxhausen                              \/               grace 
university of nebraska - lincoln             /\              happens           
===============================================================================
From: babcock@manticore.Eng.Sun.COM (Gigi Babcock, Mgr IBM Connectivity)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Skin problems during/after pregnancy
Date: 16 Sep 1992 00:22:55 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: manticore

I got a planter's wart during this pregnancy and just had
it removed. The OB thought it was co-incidence but I have
never had one before.

--
------------
Gigi Babcock babcock@Sun.COM 
Sun Microsystems, 2550 Garcia, Mailstop MTV14-204, Mt. View, CA 94043
From: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: wrapped cord leads to c-section?
Date: 11 Sep 1992 21:23:30 GMT
Reply-To: pburch@bcm.tmc.edu (Paula Burch)
Originator: pburch@roc.mbcr.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1992Sep04.020636.12465@news.mentorg.com>, alainew@gypsy.mentorg.com (Alaine Warfield) writes:

[discussion of ultrasound in the delivery room deleted]

|> After the surgery, they told me that Kayla's cord was wrapped such
|> that she couldn't descend -- had they showed me this on the sonogram
|> before I agreed to have the surgery (like they let me have a choice!!) 
|> I would have been much less reluctant about "giving in" to the knife.

I `gave in' readily enough, as it was perfectly clear that `doing 
everything right' in labor wasn't getting this baby born. It turned 
out that the cord was wrapped around Will's neck AND one arm AND 
the opposite-side leg. He couldn't descend without distress, so he 
just didn't do it.

What I'm wondering--how common is it that this happens?

If your doctor told you you had to have a c-section, in retrospect 
because the cord was wound around so many times that the baby couldn't 
descend, would you e-mail me? 

Paula Burch
pburch@bcm.tmc.edu
From: nola@cats.ucsc.edu (Nola Van Vugt)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: High Price of Toys (was Puppy Surprise)
Date: 14 Sep 92 19:57:14 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Sep14.161511.8791@cco.caltech.edu> hough@seismo.gps.caltech.edu (Susan Hough) writes:
>targetting mostly for each Christmas's sales.  Even if a child never
>saw television, these would be the toys that all the other kids were
>talking about.  (Although one of the most persuasive arguments in my
>book for getting rid of TV is to keep kids away from these stupid ads)
>When these toys come out, the prices are always offensively
>high (examples besides the $30 Puppy Surprise include "Oopsa-Daisy" ($40);
>Teddy Ruxpin & other story-tellers ($75) and "Go-go, My Walking Pup ($40)).  


*Of course* they're expensive.  You think all that television
advertising is cheap?  Do you actually think the manufacturer absorbs
the cost of all that advertising?  I'd bet that *at least* $10.00 of
that $30.00 Puppy Surprise is your share of the television
advertising.  And about $.10 went to the person who actually made the
toy.  If you want to be offended, that's a good place to start, IMO.
-nvv
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