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From: tanaka@til.til.com (Yokichi Tanaka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Apologizing for WWII--yet again
Date: 26 Jan 93 19:43:49 GMT
Organization: Togai InfraLogic, Inc.

In article <cfN9Zti00iV1E9Bpws@andrew.cmu.edu>, ac4v+@andrew.cmu.edu (Adrian Chen) writes:
|> To Mr. Dwight Joe@leland.Stanford.edu
|> 
|>     I think your idea is pretty interesting.  I do agree that the
|> Japanese people are not responsible, but, personally, I think the
|> Japanese government is.

I agree that the Japanese people are not responsible for the war crimes.
But the Japanese people *are* responsible for knowing and learning
what happened in the first half of this century, so that history is
not repeated.  In this sense, Japanese people are responsible.  
Collectively, they should demand that history be taught accurately,
and the elected representatives should push for this.

(I learned zilch about Japanese atrocities from Japanese school.
Also, US text emphasizes Nazi atrocities more than Japanese atrocities.
I've learned more from this news group and my Chinese and Korean 
friends than from any other source.)

-- 
Yoke Tanaka                Togai InfraLogic, Inc.       "fuzzy"
tanaka@til.com             5 Vanderbilt, Irvine, Calif 92718, USA
gordius!til!tanaka         714-975-8522
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Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 11:29:34 MST
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Japanese name !!
Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA
From: luke@newt.ee.byu.edu (David Luke)

In article <1jo46eINN41c@shelley.u.washington.edu> yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:

>Hmm ... really? I've never heard of modern masculine name with -ko
>ending.  Can you name (^o^) an example?  There are, as Mr. Hiraga 
>points out, -hiko (different kanji) which _is_ masculine.
>Interestingly, I've heard somewhere that -ko used to be a masculine 
>ending in ancient times.

cf. Ono no Imoko, Shoutoku Taishi's ambassador to China, of the "Land
of the Rising Sun" letter fame.
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From: herb@sybase.com (Herb Lison)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Just say no to Tabloid Royal News!!
Date: 20 Jan 93 14:16:35 GMT
Organization: Sybase, Inc.

In article <1993Jan14.172443.6764@Princeton.EDU> elt@mutei.Princeton.EDU (Ed Turner) writes:

>I'm not sure what I want to say about this phenomenon (which I admit is
>not entirely unique to Japanese considerations, but I think it is
>particularly common), except that I just don't get it.  Why be
>fascinated by geisha or kabuki but be indifferent (at best) to hostess
>clubs or karaoke?  Why romanticize the world of the samurai but dispise
>that of the salarymen?  Etc.

There is a rather large and erroneous assumption that because one
does not want to see western style tabloid nonsense about the Japanese
royal family, that one dislikes Japanese popular culture. Tabloid
journalism is repellant not because it is popular but because it
usually gets it wrong and in any case does not let us see the things
that to me are of most compelling human interest.  I would be most
interested to hear about the significance of the Crown Prince's engagement
to a highly educated and accomplished woman and whether that signifies
any sea change in Japanese attitudes towards women.  I do not expect
to find that information in tabloid news which will most likely 
bombard us with details of her private life along the lines of Chuck,
Di and Fergie, factoids which might be of interest if they were
connected with a close friend or relative, but which are pure voyeurism
when related to stranger, no matter how important a public figure that
person might be.  


As to Japanese popular culture, the more the better.  The Japanese
talent for the pleasures of daily life is just as visible at the corner
noodle shop as at any Urasenke tea ceremony, maybe more so.  In any
event, I don't believe the current publicity around the Crown Prince`s
engagement has a lot to do with popular culture.  It is more likely
an attempt to imitate the British press, which I think would be a huge
mistake. 

Herb Lison
Xref: sparky soc.culture.japan:14438 rec.puzzles:8622
From: grabiner@math.harvard.edu (David Grabiner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,rec.puzzles
Subject: Re: 3-way decision (was: Re: AKEBONO MAKES YOKOZUNA)
Date: 27 Jan 93 20:48:46 GMT
Article-I.D.: boucher.GRABINER.93Jan27155009
Followup-To: rec.puzzles
Organization: /etc/organization
In-reply-to: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU's message of Wed, 27 Jan 1993 06:43:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan27.064301.14383@Csli.Stanford.EDU>, Yuzuru Hiraga writes:

> The basic idea is that with 3 contestants, A,B,C; the first one who
> wins two in a row becomes the winner.
> Suppose in the first bout A faces B and A wins.
> Then A faces C, and if A wins then A is the champion,
> otherwise C faces B, and so on.

> In the actual sumo, there was some upper limit to the number of bouts,
> but here let's take the theoretical case that the competition goes on
> until the champion is decided.

> The question (for rec.puzzles) is:
> supposing A,B,C have equal probability of winning over each other;
> is this a fair competition?
> Said otherwise, what is the probability of A,B,C winning the championship?

Spoiler...

After matches have been played but before there is a decision, A can be
in three different positions:

1. Having just won a match.
2. Having just lost a match, and thus not playing the next one.
3. Having sat out a match, but now getting another chance.

Let P1, P2, and P3 be the probabilities he will win in these three
situations.

If A is in position 1, he has a 1/2 chance of winning, and a 1/2 chance
of going to 2.  If he is in 2, he has a 1/2 chance of losing (if the
wrestler who beat him wins again), and a 1/2 chance of going to 3.  If
he is in 3, he has a 1/2 chance of losing, and a 1/2 chance of going to
1.

Thus, if A is in position 1, he has a 1/2 chance of winning outright,
and a 1/8 chance that he will get back to position 1 after three more
bouts.  Thus P1=1/2+(P1)/8, which gives P1=4/7.  Likewise, P3 is half of
P1, which is 2/7, and P2 is half of P1, which is 1/7.

Since A's first match is equally likely to get him to 1 or 2, his chance
of winning is (4/7 + 1/7)/2, which is 5/14.  Likewise, B's chance is
5/14, and C's chance is 2/7, since the first match will put him is
position 3.  This isn't quite fair.

To get a fair method, play a full round-robin.  If anyone wins both
of his matches, he is the winner; otherwise, go back and play another
round-robin.

The difference between this procedure and the official procedure is that
C is not placed at a disadvantage if each player wins one of the first
three matches.  In the official procedure, if A beats B, C beats A, and
B beats C, B has the advantage.




--
David Grabiner, grabiner@zariski.harvard.edu
"We are sorry, but the number you have dialed is imaginary."
"Please rotate your phone 90 degrees and try again."
Disclaimer: I speak for no one and no one speaks for me.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: *HELP REQUEST*
From: larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 21:12:26 PST
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

This is a personal help request to anyone living in Japan who might 
know of a place to buy what I'm looking for, or might see one walking 
down the street one day... if anyone could help me, I'd really 
appriciate it!
 
   I'm looking for a cel from a Japanese animated show called 
"Kimagure Orange Road" (which aired in the mid 80s).  Strangely 
enough, I have some nice cels of the main character (Madoka), but 
I've been looking for a LONG time for a cel of one of the side 
characters:   Manami (the sister with the glasses and blue-colored 
hair).  Because Manami-chan is not a main character, most of the 
importers here in the U.S. don't stock cels of her, or know of her. 

   Are there some cel shops in Japan that someone might be able to 
look into for me for this request?  If found, I could send a money 
order in $$ or yen, or whatever. Thanks. This is a shot in the dark, 
but if anyone can help me, I'd REALLY appriciate it!!

  Again: I'm trying to find an animation cel of the character 
"Manami" from the Japanese anime "Kimagure Orange Road" (Manami has 
glasses and blue-colored hair). Preferably a nice shot of her 
smiling (if possible). Please if anyone in Japan would like to help 
me, again, I would be most greatful. My email address is:
  
   larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us
 
Thanks!
:::::Larry:::::

:::::larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us::::: // :::::Larry Greenfield:::::
::::::::Just your average modeming Classical Violinist:::::::::
:::::::::::Using a 6809-based Tandy Color Computer 3:::::::::::
From: dcroz@twics.co.jp (David Crosslin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Recommend History Books/Authors?
Date: 25 Jan 93 14:59:35 GMT
Organization: TWICS, Tokyo, Japan

 
Keis Ohtsuka writes:
 
=}If you love baseball, I don't think it is that hard to applaud for fine plays
=}and admire excellent players regardless of his/her nationality or ethnic
=}origin. [Strike One!]
 
     Not what I was talking about, and entirely irrelevant to the issue.
 
=}I am afraid you're off the mark about the Japanese fans' reactions. . .very
=}few would interpret it as a dent in their "racial pride". . .I would argue
=}further that sharing a common interest in the sport, such as baseball,
=}contribute overcoming narrow mindedness and bigotry despite cultural and
=}linguistic gaps that lies between the baseball fans of the two nations.
=}[Strike Two!]
 
     Sorry, but the *huge* body of evidence in Japanese newspapers, magazines,
and TV (including the man-on-the-street interviews) proves conclusively that it
is *you* who are off the mark.  I can support my remarks with hard evidence;
you demand that everyone accept your word.  People will decide for themselves.
 
=}In my opinion, anyone watches the Olympic games for the affirmation of
=}"racial pride" needs an immediate psychiatric help.
 
     I suspect you didn't take in much Olympic coverage in the Japanese
vernacular media.  Either that, or your remarks are intended to mislead those
who either didn't see any or don't speak Japanese.
 
=}It's a game not a war. [Strike! And David, you're out!!]
 
     Like I said, I've got the evidence; you've got only your denials.  The
only question is, are you deliberately prevaricating, or just out to lunch?
 
     [Keis-chan fouls out to the (extreme) right-field stands.]
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: cmr@world.std.com (Charles M Richmond)
Subject: Re: NASA and the Japanese Space Program
Organization: Integrated International Systems Corp. One Longfellow Place, Suite 3309, Boston, Ma.
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 10:05:27 GMT

justin@nx30.mik.uky.edu (justin sullivan) writes:

>In <1993Jan20.214722.4107@udel.edu> shin@clover.ee.udel.edu (Jeong-Gyun Shin) writes:

>>Does Mr Justin Sullivan trying to imply Japan's neighbors fear Japan because
>>they don't understand Japan?

>Mr Justin P. Sullivan could possibly be implying that, yes.. More to the point,
>I don't think that too many people trust Japan. It frequently takes a bit
>of ignorance of one's neighbor to be suspicious, if all they do is mind
>their own business and keep to themselves.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Ahem, you are speaking of Japan, right? 

Charlie
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*  cmr@world.std.com	(Temporary) cmr@koneko.shr.dec.com		    *
*  Specializing in UNIX, X, Image Processing, and Communications.           *
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Cities and Suburbs
From: larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 93 14:18:22 PST
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

Just a thought here to get an interesting discussion going....
It seems that in most parts of the country, the population shift 
seems to be away from small towns and countryside to large cities. 
It's different now in the U.S.  Before WWII, the U.S. was this way 
(population moving into the cities), but from WWII onwards, the U.S. 
population has been moving ever steadily from the cities into the 
countrysides, creating large "suburbs".   For the first time ever, as 
of the last census, more Americans now live OUTSIDE of major cities 
than inside.
   I was wondering what the trends in Japan now. From what I've seen, 
it still looks like there's the trend to move from countryside->city, 
but now with the the high cost of land in the city, and economic 
problems, I wonder if that has stagnated, and I wonder when Japan wil 
reverse course like America has...
:::::Larry:::::

:::::larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us::::: // :::::Larry Greenfield:::::
::::::::Just your average modeming Classical Violinist:::::::::
:::::::::::Using a 6809-based Tandy Color Computer 3:::::::::::
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Dai-Nippon Teikoku and the Jews
Date: 24 Jan 93 15:27:09 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.wfMo7hK00iV1845bss
	<C18I4G.7C9@world.std.com>
Organization: Masters student, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Mr. CRichmond writes:

.

> 
>>Mr. MCrispin writes:
> 
>>Their absurd notion -- and let this be a lesson to those who think that the
                                                                          ^^^
>>Japanese are incapable of utter stupidity -- was to import massive
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>numbers of Jews from Europe....
> 
>Having seen a comment on this in the group, I thought that I should help
>those who are confused by this sentence. Crispin-san is not generalizing
>here. Quite the opposite, as he is chiding those that do generalize.
> 
>Charlie
-- 

Ah! Charlie! Can you prove this? If this is not generalization than than
what is? This is how real racist work. They take up for each other. When
one makes a racist statement another comes to his aid. Cover him- as you
Americans say. takes his back. Under mah wing! This is bullshit! Racism
is killing your country. As for the writer above, the rest of you can
let him insult your intelligences if you want but I been had this
individaul's REAL COLORS. And, they're, I want to be White.

By the way and for the investigative purposes...Ya..hahaha

Did ya'll know that I post on the s.c.

Japan
Taiwan
asian American
African American
Koreans
Singapore
Tamil 
China
Napal
Hongkong
fillipino
Asean
Thai
Vietnamese and Alt. war
talk. politics china
African
 And the now "dead" Native American Indian
oh yea and the USA one

So,  I think that the real racist will be exposed.
From: yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Fuzzy Funny
Keywords: fuzzy logic
Date: 21 Jan 93 18:40:57 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
NNTP-Posting-Host: carson.u.washington.edu

From Newsgroups: comp.ai.fuzzy
>>I think it's a matter of using mysterious foreign terms for advertising.
>>`Fuzzy' just doesn't quite have that same winning mystique in
>>english-speaking countries.  The Japanese are really into putting
>>(often meaningless) english words and phrases in their advertising.

>This is certainly part of it, but the term "Fuzzy" has come to have selling
>value all its own in Japan.  There are several products in Japan that had
>the term "fuzzy" or "fuzzy logic" added to the product name or description
>even though the product didn't change - and sales increased.  Japan's a
>very strange market to us gaijin.

>>As a tame example, I have an empty Coke can around here somewhere, from
>>Japan, that proclaims `I feel Coke' in large letters.

>Pervert!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Dai-Nippon Teikoku and the Jews
From: larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us (Larry Greenfield)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 15:27:53 PST
Organization: The Batchelor Pad

Rikiya, don't take this the wrong way, I'm not criticizing you 
because of your spelling (I have lots of bilingual friends, and the 
spelling is the hardest part), but I just had to chuckle when I saw 
your spelling: Hippocrites!  (I keep imigining those hippos from 
Disney's Fantasia dance around spewing propaganda)...
:::::Larry:::::

:::::larryg@batpad.lgb.ca.us::::: // :::::Larry Greenfield:::::
::::::::Just your average modeming Classical Violinist:::::::::
:::::::::::Using a 6809-based Tandy Color Computer 3:::::::::::
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: hiraga@Csli.Stanford.EDU (Yuzuru Hiraga)
Subject: Re: Fuzzy Funny
Keywords: fuzzy logic
Organization: Stanford University CSLI
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 21:41:49 GMT

In article <1jmqnpINNpc7@shelley.u.washington.edu> yoichi@carson.u.washington.edu (Yoichi Ii) writes:
>From Newsgroups: comp.ai.fuzzy
>>>I think it's a matter of using mysterious foreign terms for advertising.
>>>`Fuzzy' just doesn't quite have that same winning mystique in
>>>english-speaking countries.  The Japanese are really into putting
>>>(often meaningless) english words and phrases in their advertising.
>
>>This is certainly part of it, but the term "Fuzzy" has come to have selling
>>value all its own in Japan.  There are several products in Japan that had
>>the term "fuzzy" or "fuzzy logic" added to the product name or description
>>even though the product didn't change - and sales increased.  Japan's a
>>very strange market to us gaijin.

In the last AAAI conference, Prof.Feigenbaum reported on the proliferation of
(and in cases, successful) applications of fuzzy logic in Japan;
adding that: "There's even a "fuzzy camera".  Funny place to use the word."

ObSerious:
The use of prefixes like "fuzzy", "AI (artificial intelligence)",
"NN (neural networks)" in ads are to a great extent exaggerated sales-talk.
However, few people actually know what they really apply to (at least
I didn't, till I was told).

The gadgets themselves do little more than simple table-lookup
(after all, one wouldn't expect a 4-bit chip to do symbolic inference).
Where the "AI" etc. comes in is at the stage of developing the software
that are burnt into them.  The fancy techniques, compared to standard
programming methods, do help improve the performance of the program.
However, the REAL merit is that applying high-level, uniform methods
contribute greatly to reducing the development cost of the software
(more similar to the advantages of high-level languages to machine code).
That's where the makers (I mean, the engineers) are interested in.

-Yuzuru Hiraga
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: tdn7039@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (Thomas Nguyen)
Subject: Re: Vo^ duye^n
Reply-To: tdn7039@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:26:34 GMT

In article <93027.104632LBH104@psuvm.psu.edu>, <LBH104@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>-Dung,' ye^u la` KHO^?, kho^ng ye^u la` LO^~ .... nhu*ng ye^u BA'C vu*`a KHO^?
>la.i vu*`a LO^~ ma` cu~ng KHO^NG CO' BO^? .... to^.i nghie^.p chu'ng em la('m
>BA'C a^'y o*i..... kha`....kha`...kha`...
>GIA(.C CA'I PENNSYLVANIA.....

Gia(.c Ca'i -dang xi?n ba` con o*i! 
ho^?ng bie^'t bi.  anh cha`ng na`o phu.c ru*o*.u ro^`i . 

TDN-  Tu*o*'ng -Du*.c   
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Date:         Mon, 25 Jan 1993 21:21:12 CST
              USENET." <VIETNET@USCVM.BITNET>
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From:         "Tuan Tu --UNMCVM(TUANTU)" <TUANTU%UNMCVM.BITNET@MITVMA.MIT.EDU>
Subject:      Ba.n co' bie^'t

Mo^~i la^`n ngu*O*`i ta mi' nhau ma^'t 9 calo^ ri ........ Ne^'u ma` co`n
tham lam thi` ma^'t the^m co*~ 350 chu.c nu*~a, co' khi la` ho*n nu*~a -do'
ne^'u ti'nh ra trong mo^.t nga`y ca'i chi cu~ng mo^.t la^`n, thi` mo^.t tua^`n
ma^'t he^'t mo^.t bao mo*~ la^.n -do'.  Tuy nhie^n, co' ngu*O*`i -de.p
nhu* la` cu?a tui, do`m tho^i la` tha^'t me^.t ngu*O*`i ro^`i, xo* xo* cu~ng
to^'n he^'t ca? nga`n ca lo^ ri ro^`i, he^'t xi' qua'ch co`n la`m a(n g`i
nu*~a...???  Bo*?i va^.y, tui -da^u co' ca^`n -dai e't bao gio*`...


Note:  Ca'i na`y no'i co' sa'ch ma'ch co' chu*'ng nghe ba` con.  Ai tin thi`
       la` chuye^.n cu?a ngu*O*`i -do', ai -da? ki'ch thi` go.i ma^'y cha
       kha?o cu*'u ma` la nghe, tui tha^'y sao no'i va^.y tho^i a`.


D.H.
From: tungle@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Tung T. Le)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
Subject: Vietnam's oil potential ...
Date: 21 Jan 93 07:54:58 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

World experts on oil exploration estimates that Vietnam has a huge stockpile
of oil deposits deep in the Earth, roughly 1/10 of all the world's total
reserve. Now this is very good news for VN endowed with so much potential
oil dollars. The two biggest oil fields in Vietnam are located near
the port city of  Vung Tau.  They were named: Dai Hu`ng & Bach Ho~.

These fields are currently being mined by foreign companies (Japan, Dutch).
They have bid & to pay hundreds of millions for this right. Recently, VN
signed a deal with a Canadian Company for $200 million to build an oil
vapor-processing facility in Vung Tau. VN figures they lost millions daily
in oil being burn off when the area is being ready for drilling so they
ask the Canadians to build a long pipe linking the oil-platform with the
mainland transfering some of these oil to be processed for domestic 
consumption. 

I've beein in Vung Tau recently and saw a lot of ships busy ferrying materials
to the off-shore site. There's so many foreign people there that several
big foreign hotels have sprung up. The best one is the giant CANADIAN HOTEL.
Brand new building with large dancing floor, laser karaoke, 2 restaurants.
I find a bit expensive, though ($100/night).  But I sure like the dancing
host girls who keep asking me to dance, even when I already had a girlfriend
along. If you are ever in  Vung Tau, stay at the  HAI AU  HOTEL. It has
the best food, the rooms are quite cheap also. All the hotels are facing
the same sea shore, so they are all convenient.

Actually, the people in VN are getting sophisticated. They like to sing
karaoke & disco. These two things are very popular with young people over
there. And almost all restaurants have karaoke systems.


		Le Thanh Tung
			tungle@eniac.seas.upenn.edu



Newsgroups: soc.culture.vietnamese
From: nguyen@informatik.uni-muenchen.de (The^`n DDa(ng)
Subject: [POEM] Giao Thu*`a
Originator: nguyen@tuisto.cip.informatik.uni-muenchen.de
Organization: Institut fuer Informatik der Universitaet Muenchen
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 17:31:37 GMT


      Giao Thu*`a
  
      Te^'t o*i, Te^'t dde^'n tu*. bao gio*` ?
      Ca^y kho^ tuye^'t phu? ddu*'ng cho* vo*.
      Kho^ng gian va('ng nga('t kho^ng tie^'ng pha'o.
      Te^'t dde^'n cu`ng ta chi? trong mo* !


                      Thie^`n DDa(ng


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