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From: fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty)
Subject: Request for local Internet access
Reply-To: fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty)
Organization: JPL, Shuttle Imaging Radar Software Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 02:53:53 GMT


I have relatives in Anchorage who would like access to Internet.  They
have a PC and a modem and would like to dial into a computer to send
and receive Email.  They would also be interested in Usenet News.  And
finally, they may be moving back to the bush, this time to Kotzebue, so 
would want to continue having access from there.

So any idea on how to get access and what it will cost ?

--
Tim Fogarty
Sys Man and Sys Admin for the EGSE in the POCC at JSC for SRL-1, STS-59
FOGARTY@SIR-C.JPL.NASA.GOV
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: randy@raven.alaska.edu (Randy Hayman)
Subject: Re: Books about Alaska (hopefully with pictures 8-)
Reply-To: randy@raven.alaska.edu (Randy Hayman)
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 18:27:03 GMT

Try also the fiction titled "Alaska" by Michener.

Randy
sxrmh1@orca.alaska.edu
From: tvervaek@col.hp.com (Tom Vervaeke)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Books about Alaska (hopefully with pictures 8-)
Date: 21 Dec 1992 23:06:40 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
Distribution: world
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There's a pseudo book-magazine called the MilePost that deals with the
alcan highway. It does have many, many interesting tidbits once the
highway actually gets into Alaska. I also have about 4-6 books at home
regarding Alaska. If interested, I could get the ISBN's for you.

Regards.




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From: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Books about Alaska (hopefully with pictures 8-)
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:03:05 GMT
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix & Think_Tank BBS

In article <21DEC199212482812@jane.uh.edu> lib1p@jane.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino) writes:
>Can anybody out there suggestion any good and ACCURATE books about 
>Alaska for me.  With pictures would be nice for curiousity's sake, but
>not required.  Since I work in Interlibrary Loan I can get it, even 
>from Alaska. 8-)
>
>Thanks guys,
>Tammy
>

Does "entertaining" preclude "accurate?" Two books written by
Lower-48ers that are a good read are:

John McPhee, "Coming Into the Country", about McPhee's experiences in
Alaska. He presents several views of Alaska including state
government, Inuits, back-to-nature bush living, and just plain bopping
around remote areas. 

Joe McGinnis, "Going to Extremes, " similar themes to McPhee, a little
more "embellished reality" perhaps.

Any of the Robert Service poems.

Sorry, no pictures included, no guarantees of accuracy, but they
should whet your appeti.




-- 
Bill Downing, President		Email: bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us		
DOWNING ASSOCIATES, INC.
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Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: adye@mail.boi.hp.com (Alan Dye)
Subject: Re: Request for local Internet access
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 20:51:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Hewlett-Packard / Boise, Idaho
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.4 PL6]

If they only want email access, compuserve will do just fine.  I pay a
$7.95/mo flat rate to compuserve for basic access.  However, email to and
from compuserve to the internet is billed at a per character basis.  However
the cost isn't unreasonable.  I haven't heard of usenet access from compuserve,
but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist.  I only use compuserve to check 
weather, and read the Associated Press Online.  If you are willing to pay
the cost for the incoming mail, you can subscribe to igroups (internet 
interest groups, or lists) according to your various tastes, and have them
mailed to your account on compuserve.  The addressing to a compuserve 
account is like what is shown in my .sig file (appended below).

Alan

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From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Reality vs. TV
Date: 29 Dec 1992 16:57:19 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


  I'll throw this out: but do any of the Alaskans on this 
group lurk on alt.tv.northernexposure??
  Talk about misconceptions galore....aargh!!
-- 
Ted....
From: lib1p@elroy.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Request for local Internet access
Date: 28 Dec 1992 07:13 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: elroy.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

In article <ertle.725428721@newton>, ertle@kira.uvm.edu The Sneaky Devil writes...
>In <1992Dec27.025353.25662@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty) writes:
> 
> 
>>I have relatives in Anchorage who would like access to Internet.  They
>>have a PC and a modem and would like to dial into a computer to send
>>and receive Email.  They would also be interested in Usenet News.  And
>>finally, they may be moving back to the bush, this time to Kotzebue, so 
>>would want to continue having access from there.
> 
>>So any idea on how to get access and what it will cost ?
> 
>   I've heard that CompuServ has an net-access option.  I'm not sure,
>as I don't subscribe but it's worth checking out.

I corresponded with someone via e-mail who had access via compuserve.  We
met in one of the newsgroups, so obviously they have net-access.  I personally
don't know about it.  I would ask him for you except that we haven't 
corresponded for sometime and I haven't been able to find his compuserve
address.

Tammy


Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: ertle@kira.uvm.edu The Sneaky Devil
Subject: Re: Request for local Internet access
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 03:58:41 GMT

In <1992Dec27.025353.25662@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov> fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty) writes:


>I have relatives in Anchorage who would like access to Internet.  They
>have a PC and a modem and would like to dial into a computer to send
>and receive Email.  They would also be interested in Usenet News.  And
>finally, they may be moving back to the bush, this time to Kotzebue, so 
>would want to continue having access from there.

>So any idea on how to get access and what it will cost ?

   I've heard that CompuServ has an net-access option.  I'm not sure,
as I don't subscribe but it's worth checking out.


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Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska,rec.pets.dogs
From: philg@bozo.net.com (Phil Geller)
Subject: Travelling with a dog in Alaska
Keywords: alaska travel dogs pets
Organization: Network Equipment Technologies, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 21:07:37 GMT

Can anyone offer advice on travelling with a dog in Alaska?
I'm considering an RV type trip in a VW van.  I expect we
will want to take the ferry at least one way.

Some questions come to mind:
	- Is Alaska more open to having dogs enter businesses
	  and hotels than they are in the lower 48?

	- Are dogs allowed in state and national parks?

	- Are there any special health concerns (giant ticks or fleas?)

	- Where do dogs stay when you are on the ferry?  Can they remain
	  in a vehicle?  Are they allowed visits?

The dog is a spayed Dobie, if that makes any difference.  She's really up
for this trip.

-- 
Phil Geller				Email: philg@net.com
Network Equipment Technologies 		Phone: (415) 780-4363
800 Saginaw Drive 			Fax:   (415) 780-5001
Redwood City, CA 94063
From: system@freds.cojones.com (George W. Hayduke)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Healthy Winter
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 14:22:23 AST
Organization: Radio Free Fredbox

bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) writes:

> Suppose one does not smoke or drink, likes to be around
> clean air indoors and out, athletic, etc., what facilities
> and activities are available in winter for serious
> exercise?
> Are their large indoor swimming and gym facilities in
> the cities?

yup. For a mere zillion bucks a month, you can pump iron at Gold's Gym, Body
Tech, or any one of a zillion others.

To get a REAL workout, just buy yourself a pair of cross-country skiis and a
couple pounds of granola and hit the trails -- there's lots of them.



      Fred Polsky v1.0, who has been known to handle under George.
            "This is Usenet. Facts are irrelevant here."
 The Fredbox +1 907 344 8437  system@freds.cojones.com  Anchorage, Alaska
Sean "Bandwidth" Ryan's favorite BBS, with lots of neat texts and lunatics.
From: lib1p@jane.uh.edu (Tammy Stark Blandino)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Costs of attending Alaskan universities
Date: 30 Dec 1992 13:30 CST
Organization: University of Houston
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: jane.uh.edu
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    

I would like to be able to finish my degree before I move to Alaska.  But
since it looks like the sun will go dark before that happens I have the
following two questions.....

1)  What kind of costs are associated with attending Alaskan universities
for both in-state and out-of-state students?


2)  What are the requirements to be considered an in-state student?


Tammy

Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska,rec.pets.dogs
From: jsdph@acad3.alaska.edu (Dennis P. Harris)
Subject: Re: Travelling with a dog in Alaska
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Keywords: alaska travel dogs pets
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 09:02:00 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.210737.890@unet.net.com>, philg@bozo.net.com (Phil Geller) writes...
>Can anyone offer advice on travelling with a dog in Alaska?
>I'm considering an RV type trip in a VW van.  I expect we
>will want to take the ferry at least one way.
> 
>Some questions come to mind:
>	- Is Alaska more open to having dogs enter businesses
>	  and hotels than they are in the lower 48?

not allowed in most retail stores, restaurants or bars unless it's a guide dog.

> 
>	- Are dogs allowed in state and national parks?

allowed in most parks, but with restrictions.  many campgrounds require
leashes, and recreation areas may restrict areas where dogs are allowed
to do their business.
> 
>	- Are there any special health concerns (giant ticks or fleas?)

porcupines.  dogs not acquainted with them are often curious, and end up with a
snootful of quills.  if the dog is dumb enough to have its mouth open when
porky's tail swats, they can even end up in the throat.  i've known a number of
cases where general anesthesia was necessary for the vet to get all the quills
out.

bears.  an agressive barking dog that's not careful can get slashed pretty
badly with one swat of a bear paw.

> 
>	- Where do dogs stay when you are on the ferry?  Can they remain
>	  in a vehicle?  Are they allowed visits?

dogs must be tied in a special area of the car deck.  they can be visited
3 times a day.
> 
>The dog is a spayed Dobie, if that makes any difference.  She's really up
>for this trip.
> 
>-- 
>Phil Geller				Email: philg@net.com
>Network Equipment Technologies 		Phone: (415) 780-4363
>800 Saginaw Drive 			Fax:   (415) 780-5001
>Redwood City, CA 94063 

don't forget that you will be crossing the canadian border, and will have to
have proof of all immunizations and other paperwork for the dog required by
canadian customs and immigrations.  you find out what the requirements are by
checking with the canadian consulate in san francisco.

================================================================================
dennis p. harris				  bitnet: jsdph@acad3.alaska.edu

  "The nation that controls magnetism controls the Universe." --- Diet Smith
================================================================================
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Reality vs. TV
Date: 30 Dec 1992 12:22:05 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



The writers of Northern Exposure may have an idea of making
the Alaskan setting symbolic on one level, of that which
America was and still is in small towns and rural areas,
where people can be themselves unique and eccentric, and
where they can gather and do ordinary things together.


-- 
Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
            looks promising.... |-)
From: naraht@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Randolph J. Finder)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Looking for info on U of Alaska
Date: 21 Dec 92 23:49:54 -0500
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

I am looking for a campus of U of Alaska....
I have a list of chapters in my fraternity and it lists
an inactive chapterat University of Alaska. Of course this would be at
only one campus. The only problem is the city it is listed in is "College"

Was there a campus of U of Alaska in College? In a recent post they only
mentioned Juneau, Achorage and Fairbanks.

YiLeadership, Friendship and Service

Randy Finder


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Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: brady_p@apollo.hp.com (Peter Brady)
Subject: Re: Looking for info on U of Alaska
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 15:36:49 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Dec24.074229.9171@raven.alaska.edu> cjg@hayes.ims.alaska.edu (Chris George) writes:
>down with frats!!!
>
>who the hell needs 'em?
>
>insecure bastards with poor social habits, that's who.
>one of the nice things about UAF is the lack of frats.
>too many universities stress frats. i've seen too mmany crude, cruel, and
>down right mean frat guys at other colleges. who cares if your with the
>"in" crowd. we certainly don't in AK.

The original poster is a member of Alpha Phi Omega, which is a service fraternity.
It's really a service organization -- it borrows some ideas from the social 
fraternities, but it is not a fraternity. APO is co-ed, chapters are not allowed 
to have a house and no hazing during pledging. APO chapters organize many charity 
events on campus and in the towns/cities that they reside in.

>
>we can drink our beer on our own time.
>
>-cjg

Cool. I Just to set record straight... Next time I get to AK (or you get
to NH) we'll have a beer!

--pete (APO Mu Omicron Chapter, Clarkson College, 1974-1978)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty)
Subject: Re: Reality vs. TV
Organization: JPL, Space Imaging Radar Software Group
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 01:30:13 GMT


In article <29DEC199210350776@cc.utah.edu>, pwjarman@cc.utah.edu (PARRY W. JARMAN) writes:
|>
|>I number among the NX fans who realize that Cicely is fiction,
|>that it is the creation of LA bound producers who have NO clue
|>as to what life in AK is really like--but I enjoy the characters
|>and plots.
|>
|>It is an endless source of humor for me personally to see
|>these people who attempt to figure out where Cicely is, who
|>think Alaskans run around quoting Jung and that Joel & Maggie
|>really exist.  Just folks who have the phone lines between reality
|>and fantasy crossed.
|>
|>A significant number of NX fans are literate, intelligent people
|>who might appreciate a reality check from time to time--

I like Northern Exposure too, as long as they dont do too many death episodes.

I spent the summer in Tanana when I was 18, in 1977.  And there were certainly
some excentric people who would have fit right into any NX episode.

Here is my list of most unrealistic things in NX

   brick buildings...in the bush, everything is wood or fiberglass siding

   big trees...there are plenty of trees in some parts of AK, but they are
               never more than a foot or two in diameter.

   basketball...they played one adult game of basketball in one episode in
               the summer.  In the bush, the whole town revolves around the 
               high school basketball team, in the winter.

Then there is always the inconsistancies of amount of daylight, temperature,
planting and harvesting of gardens, distances by road and/or by air, false
native culture, etc.

But I still never miss an episode.

--
Tim Fogarty
Sys Man and Sys Admin for the EGSE in the POCC at JSC for SRL-1, STS-59
FOGARTY@SIR-C.JPL.NASA.GOV
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: nsmca@acad3.alaska.edu
Subject: Re: Request for local Internet access
Organization: University of Alaska Fairbanks
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 02:10:41 GMT

In article <1992Dec27.025353.25662@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>, fogarty@sir-c.jpl.nasa.gov (Tim Fogarty) writes:
> 
> I have relatives in Anchorage who would like access to Internet.  They
> have a PC and a modem and would like to dial into a computer to send
> and receive Email.  They would also be interested in Usenet News.  And
> finally, they may be moving back to the bush, this time to Kotzebue, so 
> would want to continue having access from there.
> 
> So any idea on how to get access and what it will cost ?
> 
> --
> Tim Fogarty
> Sys Man and Sys Admin for the EGSE in the POCC at JSC for SRL-1, STS-59
> FOGARTY@SIR-C.JPL.NASA.GOV

I know if you take a class at the UAA (University of Alaska Anchorage) you can
get a UACN (University of Alaska Computer Network) userid (like mine) and then
once you have a userid, you can request internet access.. You can do the same
in Kotzebue.. Of course there might be a BBS or two in Anchorage who have
USENET access and some mild Internet Access (you will have to figure out how to 
address email from them thou).. Any WWIVnet or Fidonet BBS has limited internet
access.. Call 345-7728 (in anchorage by modem) and ask DT the sysop for info..
If anything he can send you to someone can help.. Or send internet email to
1-9704@wwiv.cojones.com


Michael Adams alias Ghost Wheel/Morgoth NSMCA@acad3.alaska.edu





Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
From: jsdph@acad3.alaska.edu (Dennis P. Harris)
Subject: Re: Healthy Winter
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41.UAC
Organization: University of Alaska - Fairbanks
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 09:41:00 GMT

In article <1hh54nINN2g1@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano) writes...
> 
> 
>Surely it can't be that Alaskan revenue is no more per
>capita than any other state.
>Doesn't oil figure in there a wee bit.
>The point is not that dividends are paid to citizens, but
>that there is money, and yes more than many states,
>==per capita== (not many people in such a big state),
>and thus there are funds for doing some solid creative
>community stuff like (in my mind) free medical, excellent
>rec facilities, etc.
> 
>-- 
>Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
>            looks promising.... |-)

the state constitution requires that at least 25% of all oil revenues go into a
permanent fund.  some of the interest from that fund pays the dividends.

when the price of oil was high, a lot of money was wasted on boondoggles, and
some weies projects.  we don't need to talk about fanut
fancy indoor excercise facilities when we have many communities without water 
and sewer facilities.

and we have enough "dream" buildings built with oil money without any regard as
to how practical they would be to operate and maintain.  since the price of oil
fell, maintenance on many of these facilities has been deferred, and they are
beginning to deteriorate.

clean water, sewage treatment, a reasonable level of public safety services,
and a good education system should all come ahead of adult exercise facilities.
if you want adult gyms, ball parks, hockey rinks, or ski trails, they should be
paid for by user fees, with as little government involvement as possible.


================================================================================
dennis p. harris				  bitnet: jsdph@acad3.alaska.edu

  "The nation that controls magnetism controls the Universe." --- Diet Smith
================================================================================
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Healthy Winter
Date: 21 Dec 1992 09:22:59 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



I am curious about facilities or popular pastimes in the
winter in Alaska.
Suppose one does not smoke or drink, likes to be around
clean air indoors and out, athletic, etc., what facilities
and activities are available in winter for serious
exercise?
Are their large indoor swimming and gym facilities in
the cities?


-- 
Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
            looks promising.... |-)
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Healthy Winter
Date: 26 Dec 1992 08:29:11 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu



Surely it can't be that Alaskan revenue is no more per
capita than any other state.
Doesn't oil figure in there a wee bit.
The point is not that dividends are paid to citizens, but
that there is money, and yes more than many states,
==per capita== (not many people in such a big state),
and thus there are funds for doing some solid creative
community stuff like (in my mind) free medical, excellent
rec facilities, etc.

-- 
Capt. Kirk: let's head for that planet, third from the sun, it
            looks promising.... |-)
From: bh419@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Ted B Samsel)
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska
Subject: Re: Anti-Texan Sentiment
Date: 23 Dec 1992 15:48:27 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Being a Texan I'm tickled at these jokes... a good friend of 
mine (also a Texan) was in Alaska for the first time last July/
August and noted the absence of "assholes" in AK. I also read
an article on the mail-order industry by a former employee
of WIRELESS (Garrison Kiellor's catalog) he he stated that none
of the callers from Alaska sounded neurotic. Go figure...
-- 
Ted....
Newsgroups: alt.culture.alaska