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From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
Subject: Re: Freedom to Speech & Profanity  
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 03:34:38 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In article <1992Dec27.230632.25495@news.clarkson.edu> rajat@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu (Rajat Kapoor) writes:
>Also, the so-called Bill of Rights does not empower right to insult or hurt
>other's feelings. For example, one cannot brandish a Nazi Swastika
>publically in US ( or in Germany) nor legally use the word "nigger". 
	I think you better brush up on your American government notes.
	You can publically brandish a Nazi Swastika anywhere you want to
	(or even a hindu swastika ;-) ). in America.  It might get your
	head kicked in in certain neighborhoods but the government won't 
	bother you.  It is a fundamental right of free speech.  The
	constitution is not there to protect feelings it is there to protect
	the rights of free speech, assembly, etc.


						smg
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Bangla Kavita on Samit's request
Date: 24 Dec 1992 22:30:01 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Hey Arindam,
	perhaps you or someone can post that Hazarika song about ganga.
	does anyone know about the song, " Dola O dola, haiyya ho haiyya"?
	Samit, perhaps you might have these. I wantu desperatelu :^)

	FFT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,purdue.forsale
From: mahadev@bank.ecn.purdue.edu (Vadali Mahadev)
Subject: 1BR in a 2BR apt. for sublease
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:25:56 GMT



Hi Netters:

What:         Sublease one Bed Room in a 2 BR apartment.
Where:        350 South Grant Street, Apt. No. 3
From :        Jan 1st or later.
Requirements: Male
Rent :        $237.50 per month + Utilities(Approx. $25-30)
Deposit:      Not required.  I will leave my deposit.

Please let me know if you are interested in taking a look at
the apartment.
Contact:
E-Mail :      mahadev@ecn.purdue.edu
telephone No. (317) 743-6164(Home)
	      (317) 494-0148(Office)

Please leave a message, and I will get back to you...
Thanks
Mahadev
From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: KNOCK! KNOCK! P-Js
Date: 2 Jan 1993 12:24:24 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu


>thak thak
>kaun hai??
>Mary
>Mary kaun??
>Meri koi nahi teri hogi!!


	This reminds me of a joke. 2 guys standing at a bus-stop when a 
	girl comes around there. One guy sings:

	"Arre rafta rafta dekho ankh meri ladhi hai, 
	Ankh jisse ladhi hai woh paas mere khadi hai"

	The other guy admonishes him : 
	" Paas tere khadi hai woh dus saal badi hai,
	Tere liye nahin woh mere liye khadi hai"



Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: gardner@convex.com (Steve Gardner)
Subject: Re: Welcome to SCI....where xenophobia and hypocrisy rule the netwaves
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 19:30:51 GMT
Organization: Engineering, CONVEX Computer Corp., Richardson, Tx., USA
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In article <aa.725734213@hela.iti.org> aa@iti.org (Aayush Asthana) writes:
>Etiquette:	While free-speech is not in question, what is in
>question is the inability of several prolific
>net-citizens to understand that every word they
>write goes into some archive somewhere, is read by
>people the world over, and in fact read by one's
>colleagues, ex-students, supervisors to-be, 
>possible soul-mates, and by one's near and dear ones
>which can include the nuclear family as well. 
>As they say the pen can be mightier than the sword,
>and can be instrumental in shaping reality.
	That is a practical argument for responsibility.  Beyond this
	practical argument there is no *requirement* for responsible and
	clean posts.


>Your Rights:	Everyone has a right to a clean in-offensive bboard
	From whence do you derive this right?  By a similar line of 
	argumentation many American bigots might think they had a right to
	a country free of "offensive non-christian" religious influences.
	This would leave you in a rather bad situation, wouldn't it?
	Fortunately, most of us see that "offensive" is in the mind of
	the beholder and that there is NO RIGHT to limit free speech 
	based upon offensiveness to any group.  This ersatz "right", I'm 
	afraid can just as easily turn against you.  If you think about it 
	you will see how dangerous it is to YOUR rights to maintain that free
	speech can be limited by the criterion of offensiveness.  I live
	in a region of the country populated by a large number of 
	christian fanatics who would use it to silence YOU.
	

>What to Do:	When the concept of free speech becomes a masquerade
>it is in your interest to voice your opinion
>directly to those who can do something about it. 
	Free speech is NEVER a masquerade.  If you allow others to be
	silenced you too will be silenced in turn.  Keep that in mind
	when you think about rights and responsibilities.


							smg


Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rajat@sunny3.che.clarkson.edu (Rajat Kapoor)
Subject: Freedom to Speech & Profanity  
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 1992 23:06:32 GMT

From article <1hl8p8INN8o9@hsc.usc.edu>, by banerjee@hsc.usc.edu (Samit Banerjee):
> 
> These self styled lieutenants of the net-police who emerge at specific,
> intervals to voice their concerns about violations of USENET priviledges

While keeping off "suspension of USENET privilages" part, let us not miss 
that the same right that allows one to post "offensive" articles
also allows others to "express disenchantment".

Also, the so-called Bill of Rights does not empower right to insult or hurt
other's feelings. For example, one cannot brandish a Nazi Swastika
publically in US ( or in Germany) nor legally use the word "nigger". 

While there is not much one could do to stop "private wars" on the net,
I do hope the "warring" parties realize that subscribers have to pay
for all the articles, regardless of the ones read.

Obviously, there is a feeling amongst each party of winning "publically"
Well... in their own imagined world, maybe.

However, majority of these "irregular privates", seem to be very 
knowledgeable, lacing their articles with useful info ,
but again, these are embedded amongst inane insults and abuses. Wish they
could direct their superior command of subject and verbal skills to a
more positive, informative and satisfying posting.

Again, the choice of what to write is an author's perrogative. Its up
to them to decide to be or not to be obnoxious.

Rajat Kapoor
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Can GOI rebuild the mosque?
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:47:25 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

sivabala@faraday.ee.washington.edu (Siva Bala Narayanan) writes:




>Just a curious question. Given the facts that India is constitutionally
>secular and that the constitution takes precedence over the parliament,
>does the Indian constitution have provisions that allow the Central
>Government to build religious places of worship?

>Can some constitution "dhaadhaa" clarify my doubt?

>Siva


	I AM NOT CONSTITUTIONAL PUNDIT , BUT I CAN STILL 

	PREDICT THAT IF GOI REBUILDS THE MASJID  ,

	THE INCIDENT OF DEC 06 WILL BE REPEATED 

	AGAIN WITH A LOSS OF ANOTHER THOUSAND LIVES .


	JAI SRI RAM

	JAI HIND

				DEEPAK
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From: fafat@aludra.usc.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,alt.config
Subject: Re: soc.culture.lang.bengali
Date: 2 Jan 1993 14:37:29 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: aludra.usc.edu

Deb writes:

>  I was in KGP and Jadavpur. But, Feeltaar Hoeels ceegarette is quite costly.
>  I used to smoke Naambaar 10 shigareette and "eat" (khetam) dobol half-cup
>  cha (tea) 8-). Nikhil-er deem-ruti (a la deem toast) is still nostalgic.

	This must definitely remind all IIT(B) elec. guys about that Bong
	lab sidey in machines lab. His, "Nhooooo nhoooo nhooooo, you
	shuuudnt doo theeessse. The maacchhhinnee gets all hot up wheeeen
	you ruuuun like thaaaat" to stop peepuls from fiddling with the
	generators was quaint.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,alt.config
From: mmmirash@midway.ecn.uoknor.edu (Mandar M. Mirashi)
Subject: Ajit joke  :)
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 10:19:53 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA

In article <C02wy7.52w@max.physics.sunysb.edu> ajit@sbchm3.sunysb.edu () writes:
>
>	Hi,   
> 	I want to receive latest news bulletins from India. Could I subscribe
>to some such service ? I would also like to obtain node addresses for 
>Indian newspapers e.g. HINDU .  
>
>	Could some one help me please. Thanks.
>                                                       Ajit

Hey...is that the latest Ajit joke?   :)

Relax....(before you decide to flame me).....just kiddin'

Seriously though, I think you should check out the FAQ. It mentions
how to to subscribe to Indian newspapers, magazines, et al.


                                                Peace,

                                                          Mandar.

-- 
"Imagine there's no countries. It isn't hard to do. Nothing to kill or die 
 for, and no religion too. Imagine all the people living life in peace.
 You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one. I hope some
 day you'll join us, and the world will be as one." - John Lennon.
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From: gopals@astro.umd.edu (N. Gopalswamy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
Subject: Info needed
Date: 23 Dec 92 22:10:30 GMT
Organization: U. of Maryland @ College Park, Astronomy


Hi netters,


One Sairavi Nagarajan has come from India. He has
admission in EE Dept of Louisiana State U. he wants to be 
in touch with an Indian student in LSU. If any body can
talk to him please send your
phone number or e-mail address to me. 

His phone number: 301-540-7167.

my e-mail: gopals@astro.umd.edu


thanks.

gopal
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From: japlady@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rebecca Radnor)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.italian,soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: wedding customs?
Date: 22 Dec 92 22:54:12 GMT
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <1992Dec17.162224.3068@peanut> willemsdawnm@bvc.edu writes:
>
>I am currently doing a paper on wedding customs of different societies.  I
>would appreciate any information anyone can provide for me. 
>Please send info to willemsdawnm.bvc.edu
>
>thanks
>dawn

A good book in this regard is 

Edwards, Walter.  Modern Japan through it's Weddings: Gender, person and
society in ritual Portrayal. California: Stanford University Press, c.
1989.

Edwards also has some articals on the same subject, I recall one in the
journal of Japanese studies, but don't remember when.  Hope this helps.
-- 
Rebecca Radnor                \\ I know everything,
NU Anthroplogy Department     \\ I know nothing
JAP= Jewish.American.Princess \\ I used to put sticks under the back porch 
     & Japan specialist	      \\      and wait for them to petrify.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: bhattach@quip.eecs.umich.edu (sayan bhattacharyya)
Subject: Re: talk.politics.howrah.bridge.II ( Was re: bengali culture...)
Organization: University of Michigan EECS Dept., Ann Arbor, MI
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 10:19:38 GMT

In article <199212310511.AA24861@mp.cs.niu.edu> t60bss9@mp.cs.niu.edu (Bijoy Sagar) writes:
>
>
>
>I here by propose a new newsgroup talk.politics.howra.bridge.II. This newsgroup
>has been proposed to discuss the culture and evolution of the second Howrah
>bridge. The charter of the new newsgroup will be as follows:
>
>(1) Civil engineering and bridge construction techniques with referance to
>    Howrah bridge.

[...]

>(10) poetry ( Bengali and with translation) related to Howrah Bridge II.
      ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

>
>
>- Bijoy sagar
>


Well Bijoy, I decided to take your suggestion literally :) 

Some years ago, I came across a most interesting  line in a poem, whose
author I have unfortunately forgotten about (Shakti ? Sunil ?). At that time,
the bridge was partially completed -- that is to say, the approach roads
and two halves of the bridge on opposite banks of the river had been
nearly completed, but there was a narrow gap between the two structures
in the middle - the two structures had not yet come together. So the
poet was talking about his beloved, and how he was so near to her but
still not totally with her ...  and ended saying - guess what? - that
their relationship was like the two wings of the unfinished Howrah
Bridge II, seeking each other but not quite together yet !

Trust the  Bengali to discover sermons in stones and poetry in the Howrah
Bridge  :)       


-Sayan.




-- 
Sayan Bhattacharyya          |   Colourless green ideas sleep furiously.
Graduate student             |
Artificial Intelligence Lab  |
The University of Michigan   |
From: jp11283@woodstock.umd.edu (S. J. Sanjeev)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: test
Keywords: test
Date: 24 Dec 92 17:03:26 GMT


this is only a test
a
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: skilleda@gmuvax2.gmu.edu (SUDHANSHU )
Subject: Re: Proud to be a Hindu !!!!
Organization: George Mason University, Fairfax, Va.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 23:25:02 GMT

congrats manoj you have spelled my views exactly

keep the good work going!!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.tamil
From: scindia@IASTATE.EDU (Shekhar K Scindia)
Subject: Re: VISITING INDIA - INFORMATION NEEDED!!!
Reply-To: scindia@IASTATE.EDU (Shekhar K Scindia)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 19:03:54 GMT

 I would suggest the following;

 You should visit Delhi, which is a historic city and has many monuments in and
around that may be of interest to you. You might also want to go to Kashmir
which you may find to be very beautiful. However, there has been some communal
turmoil in the last few days so you might want to be careful. 

 Bombay is supposed to be the business capital of India. You will find many
places of interest in Bombay. Institutions such as the Tata Institute of
Fundamental Research in Bombay is one place worth visiting. The Indian Institute
of Technology in Bombay is also one place you should visit. You might be
surprised if you have an image of a technologically backward India. Bombay has a
rich meusuem you might want to see. 

If you are interested in seeing the darker side of Bombay, you should visit
Dharavi, considered to be the biggest slum in Asia. You might be apalled at the
living conditions of the pavement dwellers in Bombay. 

 You should not in any case miss visiting Mysore, which I consider to be the
most beautiful city in India. It is a nice, clean place with colorful flowers
all over on beautiful trees.

 If you visit Mysore, you should also come down to Bangalore, which is close. It
is called 'Garden city'. In January especially, it should be very nice in
Bangalore.

 This is what I can think of now. Have a good trip!



 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sens@FASECON.ECON.NYU.EDU (Sunando Sen)
Subject: Re: Can GOI rebuild the mosque?
Organization: New York University
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 10:26:57 GMT

In article <dbose.725064445@sirocco.aem.umn.edu> dbose@aem.umn.edu
(Deepak Bose) writes:

>sivabala@faraday.ee.washington.edu (Siva Bala Narayanan) writes:
>
>
>
>
>>Just a curious question. Given the facts that India is constitutionally
>>secular and that the constitution takes precedence over the parliament,
>>does the Indian constitution have provisions that allow the Central
>>Government to build religious places of worship?
>
>>Can some constitution "dhaadhaa" clarify my doubt?
>
>>Siva
>
>
>	I AM NOT CONSTITUTIONAL PUNDIT , BUT I CAN STILL 
>
>	PREDICT THAT IF GOI REBUILDS THE MASJID  ,
>
>	THE INCIDENT OF DEC 06 WILL BE REPEATED 
>
>	AGAIN WITH A LOSS OF ANOTHER THOUSAND LIVES .
>
>
>	JAI SRI RAM
>
>	JAI HIND
>
>				DEEPAK

Dear Deepak,

I have following your recent flood of postings with some interest.  It
seems that one of the Shift keys of keyboard is stuck, or else you have 
inadvertently left the Caps Lock key on.  You must be using one of those 
abominations manufactured by Sun or Dec.  On the other hand, I am pleased
to see that you keep the width of your text reasonably *narrow*.  Not many 
people seem to realise that some of us have to deal with screens only 80 
columns wide.  Keep up with your narrowcasts! :-)

Fond regards,

Sunando Sen
From: rsivasan@sedona.intel.com (Rajkumar Sivasankaran)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Do you know anyone at Uni. of Colorado, Bolder ?
Followup-To: soc.culture.tamil
Date: 30 Dec 1992 20:40:36 GMT
Organization: EMD Group, Intel Corporation, chandler, AZ
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rsivasan@sedona.intel.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: azores.intel.com
Originator: rsivasan@sedona


Hi,

My brother-in-law will be coming to UC in Spring'93. I need
to arrange for his accomodation and also find some info about
the school. If you are a student at Boulder or know someone 
there, could you send mail(with your phone #) to me? 

Thanks,

Raj
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.indian.telugu,soc.culture.tamil
From: dbose@aem.umn.edu (Deepak Bose)
Subject: Re: KNOCK! KNOCK! P-Js
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 1 Jan 1993 21:45:13 GMT




	KNOCK KNOCK !!
	WHO'S THERE ??
	HEE-HAW HEE-HAW .
	MUSTAFA , GET THE HELL OUT OF HERE .
From: rajesh@juniper (Rajesh Raman)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: AIDS drug by indian firm
Date: 3 Jan 1993 01:33:47 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: juniper.wpi.edu
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Samit Banerjee (banerjee@hsc.usc.edu) wrote:
: 
: In terms of protecting intellectual property, the US law makes more sense.

  Please explain how. I donot think that it is right to take seed from
  some country process it and then sell it worldwide and apply your own
  label to it.

  The US has been importing herbs and plants from tropical countries and
  developing some kind of hybrid or resistant varieties and saying that
  the people in the countries from which those plants were taken have no
  right to develop disease-resistant breeds in their own way. How do you
  justify this ?

: 
: -- 
: Samit Banerjee,			    |  
: University of Southern California   |  A man who smiles when things go wrong,
: Internet: banerjee@scf.usc.edu      |  has found somebody to blame it on.
: Bellnet : (213) 342-1401            |  

--

Rajesh Raman

--

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: c4sg@jupiter.sun.csd.unb.ca
Subject: Re: Profanity, Anonymous postings and SCI.
Organization: University of New Brunswick
Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 15:03:06 GMT

In article <aa.726032243@hela.iti.org> aa@iti.org (Aayush Asthana) writes:
>Hey, whatever constructive thing some folks may do, your solution of
>do-nothing smacks of the mentality of `having been caught in the act
>earlier,' -- I don't hear you saying anything about the profanity
>but rather it almost sounds like you second what some of these
>posters are doing.  I certainly don't condone their postings; what
>is your position vis-a-vis responsibility in this matter?  I have
>already asked these posters to desist -- have you?


What problem your Asthana? Why behave like monkey on the net?
Your father not practis how to evolve....still remain a monkey...
all your life stay a monkey...become endangar species. like colorado 
donkey!

Constant giving advice, advice not good. Do something, anything.
Catch peepul use foule languag ! Issue threat death..not good.
why not report to FBI/police? Not doing anything...only sitting on butt
and type post after post. We get focked by them.

What problem your? Maybe be 'gnaar me khuchli' (tickling ass) problem.
Shame problem as donkey from colorado. Are you mughals monkey?
mughal leve Bharat long go, leave problem behind. Barbar break temple
to build mosqe ...not good. that why hindu take revenge.  

You use too many words in post. I not understand. I come here straight
from Chapra zila of bihar. Muzzafarpur Institute of Technology (M.I.T)!!
I think that if they abuse, then hindu abuse. Eye phor I!
If they death of threat, we give threat of death. Teeth phor tit!
if they give gaali, we give mahagali! hair for hire!

This I promise to you. If Musfata come ranch for 'pagla' (mad) treat, 
i get Patwardhan and other mafia to make hit. very good they at that.
afterthat mustafa ...no good. sho shad!!  I bihar mukhia mantri (CM), lallu
prasad yadav garnd neice, third son, first daughters, fourth husband, 
twelevth bata. No nobody in our house use nirodh...that why over population.
Not good. they also born like pigs. four wives, 8 bhaby, 32 in all. not good.

i say lot. time to go for shit with lota. you Asthana talk too much.
Make darwin ashamed! not good. I not like darwin ashamed. mustafa make
pavlov ashamed! not good. Asthana, i idiot say that you idiot more idiot
than me idiot!! also lie...not truth ..not good.

asthana what kind of bidi you smoke....lal sutha or sada sutha. no bidi. not
good. no ganja also? thora sa khahilba tukha kayni do? not good.

JAI RAM JI KI! JAI HANUMAN ASTHANA JI KI!! JAI LANGOT KI !!!

LALLU PRASAD ZINDABAD. MAFIA RAJ ZINDABAD. ASTHANA KA BHAT ZINDABAD

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: partha@mse.ogi.edu (R. Parthasarathy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Latest FORTUNE magazine cover
Date: 24 Dec 92 00:50:44 GMT
Organization: Oregon Graduate Institute, Material Science & Engineering

The latest FORTUNE magazine cover has some Indians in it - 
an Indian lady in a yellow saree and a couple of guys. I just
browsed through the issue. It was the main article of the issue
about the globalization of wotk force. There was some mention about
the software boom in India. If anyone has read that issue, just
throw in your opinions on that.

Partha sarathy
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:42357 soc.culture.pakistan:18961
From: rakesh@svcdudes.com (Rakesh Chabra)
Subject: Any Single Women looking for a relationship?
Reply-To: rakesh@svcdudes.com
Organization: Software Ventures, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 92 18:39:31 GMT

If you are, start your reply now!

I live in the San Francisco Bay Area and would be interested in meeting or  
talking to you (wherever you are).  I am 30 (I guess I should start with  
that) and my parents are from Delhi (I was born and raised here)...  If  
there's anything else you need to know, please ask...

Thanks and I hope to hear from you soon.

Take good care,

Rakesh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: krishnan@ra.csc.ti.com (Srinivasan Krishnan)
Subject: one more visa question...
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:14:17 GMT


If a visa to the US is rejected, do the visa offcials stamp on
your passport that  a visa has been rejected. If they stamp it,
does it mention the type of visa that has been requested (like
H-1, B-1..) etc.?  Please knowledgeable netters respond.

Thanks,

Krishnan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.pakistan