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From: trp@gtech.com (Tom R. Peterson (consultant))
Subject: build a warmoth(?) & composite materials in guitars
Organization: GTECH Corporation, West Greenwich, RI
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:08:30 GMT

A couple guitar building questions:
1) Does anyone know where to order Warmoth, or other good quality
   guitar components, with the intention of building a guitar?
2) Have you done this?  Could you end up with a better stat for
   the same money?
3) Someone posted that Steinberg guitars are made of composite materials.
   I build R/C airplanes, and fiddle a bit with carbon fibre, fibre glass,
   wood laminations, etc.  Does anyone know about this?
4) Ever considered making a solid tempered Damascus steel strat?

Any info would be Appreciated!
trp@gtech.com
Xref: sparky rec.music.makers.guitar:1119 rec.music.makers:11661
From: andnick@stein.u.washington.edu (Nick Anderson)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,rec.music.makers
Subject: replacing/purchasing a bridge info needed
Date: 3 Jan 1993 21:01:46 GMT
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: stein.u.washington.edu

I have a fender bullet with one of the lame bridges that is part of the
(metal) scratch plate. this makes the guitar (with otherwise ok pickups &
a good straight tele-like neck) sound like hell. Since I am on a limited
budget and don't mind taking a risk, I thought that perhaps I could
replace the bridge with a normal one, and get or make a large plate
to fit over the resulting hole.
 
q: any suggestions on a light, durable >cheap< bridge for tele-like body/neck?
q: "             " on good books to read for installing this myself?
q: any warnings on the advisability of this?
 
thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: fdvlba@zia.aoc.nrao.edu (Fort Davis VLBA site)
Subject: Re: ==> +30db GAIN Circuit for Your Guitar: $25 <==
Organization: National Radio Astronomy Observatory, Socorro NM
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 18:26:34 GMT


I went so far as to build active bass and treble with my 5x voltage boost.
I used the dual FET op map from RS in 8-pin dip.  It hisses a bit with
the amp boogie on and pot full up, but changing bass and treble on the fly
is completely worth it.  I got my circuits from the Coughlin-Driscoll yellow
and blue op-amp book, using divider resistors to split the supply as Dave 
mentioned.  I also went to 12v supply by routing the empty spring cavity
and installing 8 AA cells in plastic RS holders.  My EMG's don't seem to 
mind the extra voltage.

Any suggestions for a dual op-amp in 8 pin dip with very low noise?
__
Steve Cowell, tube amp freak
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Subject: Re: PRS Guitars
Summary: PRS Dragon
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:22:59 GMT

In article <mccleod.725139318@vincent2.iastate.edu>, mccleod@iastate.edu (Neil Wood) writes:
> I'm looking at buying a Paul Reed Smith Guitar.
> they have a couple in Des Moines at Riemann Music
> but not what I want.  I heard something about 
> Dragon Inlays and was wondering how I could
> get a catalog or custom order one??
> 
> Anyone help??
> And anyone know what one runs with the inlays and a fixed bridge?
> .
> 
> -- 
> Neil Eric Wood | mccleod@iastate.edu    |  __   __ Ok, Edge.......
> Iowa State     | taa50@isuvax.edu       | (  `-'  )__________ ....  
> University     |"Am I buggin you? Don't | |  0 0 ||||||||||||I____\
> Go Clones!     | mean ta bug ya!" - Bono| (:__,-._) Play the Blues           


	I hope you have a shitload of money. The Dragon guitar is Paul Reed
	Smiths personal guitar. They do not take custom orders from players
	like us. Unless Neil Eric Wood is swedish for Carlos Santana 8^)

	PRS makes a couple of diff kinds of guitars. They make a bolt on series
	in the price range of 1200 to 1600 retail. They make a glued neck series
	including a "Custom" series  that list from 1600 to about 3000 with a
	case, retail, and there is the Signature series at about 3500. Last
	but not least theres the Artist series for people like Carlos and
	Warren and Dickey they go for Huge money 4k+. The above data is from
	memory and I could be off a hundred here and a hundred there. Oh they
	do not give there guitars away to artists, but do allow artist input.

	Interseting story concerning the Artist series. Paul Smith made 3
	guitars for Dickey Betts. Used laquer paint and everything. Betts
	returned the guitars. Smith wanted to know what was wrong. Betts
	take his old gold top L.P. and stikes it with a teak dowel. The 
	old L.P. rang like a bell. Now Pauls artist series guitars are all
	hand selected wood that passes the teak dowel test.

	Steve
	Doin That Blues ThAng!
From: arb@presto.ig.com (Dan Arbios)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: guitar
Keywords: open g
Date: 29 Dec 92 21:30:50 GMT
Organization: IntelliGenetics Inc., Mtn. View, Ca.


Regarding the question about how to play a g-chord.

Try puting your pinkie on the high e-string ,third fret, and your ring
finger on the low e-string third fret.  When I started out, I learned
Zep's "Rain Song," as most guitarists do, and this formation was the
only one that allows you to play this song correctly asa beginner.
There are obviously other chord formations, bu th but this was the
best for a beginner.  In the long run, you benefit more by practicing
this one over and over, and you can produce a multitude of great
sounding chords out of this position..jam away...

Xref: sparky rec.music.makers.guitar:1116 rec.music.makers.bass:468 rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature:804 rec.music.makers.percussion:372 rec.music.makers.synth:958 alt.guitar:11093 alt.guitar.bass:2192 alt.guitar.tab:4762
From: rsk@gynko.circ.upenn.edu (Rich Kulawiec)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,rec.music.makers.bass,rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature,rec.music.makers.percussion,rec.music.makers.synth,alt.guitar,alt.guitar.bass,alt.guitar.tab
Subject: INTRODUCTION to new musician's newsgroups (includes charters)
Summary: charters of new groups
Keywords: guitar, bass, tablature, keyboard, synth, music
Date: 2 Jan 93 02:10:38 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Mike Singletary Appreciation Society

Following a discussion held in Aug/Sep '92, and a vote held in Sep/Oct '92,
five newsgroups, which are listed below along with their charters,
have been created:

rec.music.makers.guitar.
Charter: "Electric and acoustic guitar techniques and equipment"

rec.music.makers.bass.
Charter: "Upright bass and bass guitar techniques and equipment"

rec.music.makers.guitar.tablature.
Charter: "Guitar tablature/chords, associated discussion and requests".

	It's intended that the three groups above replace their equivalents
	in the "alt" hierarchy: alt.guitar, alt.guitar.bass, and alt.guitar.tab.

rec.music.makers.percussion.
Charter: "Percussion (including drums) techniques and equipment"

rec.music.makers.synth (was rec.music.synth)
Charter: "Synthesizers and computer music"  [UNCHANGED FROM CURRENT]

	This is simply a renaming of an existing group, in order to bring
	it together with the other musicians' groups.

Musicians' traffic that doesn't fit into any of the groups above
probably belongs in rec.music.makers.

---Rsk

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: ooptk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Subject: strat plus tone pickup select strangeness
Reply-To: ooptk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
Organization: Montana State University
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 04:54:41 GMT

I've got a strat plus which I've only had for a few months, so I'm not
sure if I'm imagining this or not, but, I have had different results
with the tone knobs when the bridge and middle pickup are selected.

Most of the time only the tone knob towards the bridge will alter the tone
when both bridge and middle pickups are active (fourth pickup select switch
position (of 5) away from the pickups). However, I swear that I've been
able to use both tone knobs under this pickup select scheme before. I prefer
to be able to use both tone controls but can't get the middle one to ever
work any more. 

Do I have a wiring problem, or a blown out electronical componenet?


Also, one more .... the strings used to stay in tune after using the tremelo
, but now the G string always goes sharp afterwards, whereas the other strings
stay in tune.
 probable causes?  need to oil the wilkinson nut at the g string? get a heavier
 gauge g string? maybe there is a v cut into the roller nut or the saddle where
 the string hangs upon trying to return to normal (pre whammied) postition?
 hipshot tremsetter needs tightening or losening?

thanks strat people!

Terry
From: harper@godot.think.com (Jim Harper)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: USA Charvels and Ibanez Wanted
Date: 23 Dec 92 10:51:00
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: rec
NNTP-Posting-Host: godot.think.com

I am looking for USA Charvels (Made in San Dimas) I am not a collector
I just really like the necks so if you have one for sale in the
New England area let me know also a friend of mine is looking for
an Ibanez Paul Stanley.

Thanks !!!
Jim
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar
From: mccalld@vax.sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: custom pickup designs needed
Date: 22 Dec 92 15:04:08 GMT
Organization: Sonoma State University

Greetings:

	I don't know if anyone out there can help, but,....I have designed
some harps which resemble the ancient greecian lyres....I would like to
get some custom designed pickups for them but I havn't a clue where I might
go to find someone who could manufacture one or even if any might exist.
My local repair person, who does all the work on my guitars says he isn't
familiar with anyone who might do custom pickups so I thought I would
query the net.
any ideas?
thanks ahead of time
mccalld@sonoma.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: avdavid@teal.csn.org (David Ewing)
Subject: Re: GIBSON ES330
Organization: Colorado SuperNet, Inc.
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 20:23:17 GMT

CNTS10@email.mot.com (Jim Morgan) writes:

>I'M LOOKING FOR INFO ON THE GIBSON ES330 SEMI-HOLLW BODY.  DOES ANYONE OUT 
>THERE KNOW MUCH ABOUT THIS GUITAR?

I have a 1965 (or 67?) Gibson ES 330.

>* IS IT A DECENT GUITAR?

Yes.  For those of you who don't know, a 330 is very much like a 335
only it is more hollow (there is less internal reinforcement).  
I like its natual tone more than the 335s (although with amps, 
eqs, effects, this may be a moot point).  One nice thing about it being
hollow, you can practice without an amp and actually hear the thing.

I particularly like its neck.  I have always found Gibson's flatter
necks easier to play than Fender's more rounded ones (although
I love the Fender sound).

>* DO THEY HAVE FEEDBACK PROBLEMS?

That is their reputation (since it is hollow), although I have never had 
any problems with this.   It all depends on your setup (amp position,
volume, etc.).  I certainly wouldn't let this be a factor in your decision
to buy this model of guitar.

>* I'VE HEARD THERE ARE THERE ARE DIFFERENT VARIATIONS OF THIS GUITAR WHERE 
>  THERE NECK JOINS THE BODY AT DIFFERENT PALCES ( ON SOME IT JOINS AT THE 
>  16TH FRET, ON OTHERS IT JOINS AT THE 19TH, ETC..)

I've never heard this, but you may be right.  I have heard that for some
reason the ones with dot fret markers are more valuable than the
ones with the square mother of pearl inlays (I have the latter).

>* WHAT IS THE COST OF ONE IN MINT CONDITION?* ETC...	

I'm not real current on the price of vintage guitars.  I bought mine
in 1975 for $450.00 (for whatever that's worth).

Sorry this wasn't of more help.  If you have any questions, email me 
at the address below.

Dave

-- 
************************************************************************
David A. Ewing          Avalanche Development Company
david@avalanche.com     Boulder, Colorado
************************************************************************
From: meunier@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Electronics Projects for Musicians/PAiA
Date: 22 Dec 92 12:44:22 GMT

I was wondering if anyone has built any of the projects from Craig Anderton's
text "Electronic Projects for Musicians??"  The reason I ask is so that I can
be somewhat selective in deciding which projects to tackle first.

If anyone has built any of these, could they email me?  Which ones sound the
best?  Easiest to construct?  Tips on finding parts (especially IC's).

Also, has anyone every constructed any of the effects offered by PAiA 
electronics?  I am wondering about the quality of the product as well as
the level of documentation provided with each FX "kit."


Thanks for any help anyone can provide.

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From: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Digitech GSP21 Pro
Date: 21 Dec 1992 16:07:08 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ah335@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard Banks)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc10.ins.cwru.edu


I'm having some a problem with my Digitech GSP21.
It is the first model, the Pro, that came out in '91.
But I expect it would not be to much different from the Legend.

Anyway, it thinks that I have the effects loop wired even when I do not.
Therefore instead of the effects loop being bypassed on every program
it is (on) of every program.  And I have to put a cord straight through
from send to return in order for it to work properly, unless I go
and manually turn off the effects loop on every single program.
And still I can't on the factory presets.
Is there something I must set to turn off the effects loop, or is
something truely wrong here?

I suppose if something is wrong the bit that turns on the effects loop
is locked on "high" for some reason.  This might be caused by an
effects loop jack problem.  Perhaps on 1 of the 3 effects loop
jacks, sleeve is shorting ring or tip on one of them.  I have not
taken a good look at the jacks yet.

Has anyone else had this problem?  Do you what might be happening?
Do you know of anyway to fix it?  Or will I have to return the
unit to Digitech/DOD for repairs?

Thanks.
Rich
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center
Date: Wednesday, 30 Dec 1992 07:53:00 PST
From: <WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU>
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: strat plus tone pickup select strangeness

In article <00965D4C.4E1CB400@Msu.oscs.montana.edu>, ooptk@Msu.oscs.montana.edu
says:
>
>I've got a strat plus which I've only had for a few months, so I'm not
>sure if I'm imagining this or not, but, I have had different results
>with the tone knobs when the bridge and middle pickup are selected.
>
>Most of the time only the tone knob towards the bridge will alter the tone
>when both bridge and middle pickups are active (fourth pickup select switch
>position (of 5) away from the pickups). However, I swear that I've been
>able to use both tone knobs under this pickup select scheme before. I prefer
>to be able to use both tone controls but can't get the middle one to ever
>work any more.
>
>Do I have a wiring problem, or a blown out electronical componenet?

Traditionally the tone pot closest to the volume pot only works the neck
pickup.  The other tone pot is for the middle and bridge pickups.  At least
that's what I remember...

>Also, one more .... the strings used to stay in tune after using the tremelo
>, but now the G string always goes sharp afterwards, whereas the other strings
>stay in tune.
> probable causes?  need to oil the wilkinson nut at the g string? get a
>heavier
> gauge g string? maybe there is a v cut into the roller nut or the saddle
>where
> the string hangs upon trying to return to normal (pre whammied) postition?
> hipshot tremsetter needs tightening or losening?

My American Standard stays perfectly in tune but that's probably because I have
the Tremsetter cranked up very heavy.  Do you think  the fact that I took off
the tremelo arm and no longer use the tremelo has something to do with it?  I
don't know.  Anyway, my bridge is very stable now due in no small part to the
use of the Tremsetter, a very nice little dealie.  Now if one could find a
"hard-tail" in an American Stardard version...

>thanks strat people!
>
>Terry

You're welcome, Terry.

Brian
From: gompertz@sdd.hp.com (Ron Gompertz)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: ** Date My Dobro !! **
Date: 23 Dec 1992 21:01:40 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard, San Diego Division
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdl90.sdd.hp.com

Keywords:  DOBRO


Another Obscure Guitar Question:


Date my Dobro! What's she worth?


   S/N  01043

   Nickel Silver

   Lightly engraved floral pattern back and front. (Not mums..) No engraving
 on sides.

   Spanish neck. Rosewood fretboard.

   Original grover tuning pegs.

   Spun aluminum resonator.

   Sound plate has same engraved pattern but looks "newer" -- possibly
non original.

    Gold and red dobro decal with lyre/harp on the head stock.


__________
   Ron Gompertz
   gompertz@sdd.hp.com

   Standard Disclaimer: my company couldn't care less about dobros.
__________

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar,alt.guitar
From: jle@cfm.brown.edu (Jon Elion)
Subject: Re: Yet another Strat question
Organization: Brown University / Cardiac Image Processing Lab
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 19:07:30 GMT

MIZUTANT@fred.wharton.upenn.edu (Taka Mizutani) asks:

>BTW, what's a Wayne's World Strat?

I saw one recently.  It is a cheap Squier-type Strat, all white (like
the one in the movie "Wayne's World", hence the name).  It comes with
decals/stickers you can put on the guitar body yourself.

Personally, I was surprised and disappointed.  IMHO, I found it to be a
very low-end product, and somewhat demeaning to the name "Strat".
From: sfm1@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (SCOTT F. MASTROIANNI)
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
Subject: Re: build a warmoth(?) & composite materials in guitars
Date: 30 Dec 92 18:51:31 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1992Dec29.190830.10190@gtech.com>, trp@gtech.com (Tom R. Peterson (c
onsultant)) writes:
>A couple guitar building questions:
>1) Does anyone know where to order Warmoth, or other good quality
>   guitar components, with the intention of building a guitar?
>2) Have you done this?  Could you end up with a better stat for
>   the same money?
>3) Someone posted that Steinberg guitars are made of composite materials.
>   I build R/C airplanes, and fiddle a bit with carbon fibre, fibre glass,
>   wood laminations, etc.  Does anyone know about this?
>4) Ever considered making a solid tempered Damascus steel strat?

I've found that a 500+ layer laminate of AISI 1090 and pure nickel sheet in a
ladder patter hardened and tempered out to RC 54-56 gives the best tonal
characteristics (any softer and the bass notes turn to mush--the harmonics are
also impared).  For someone who does not have the facilities to produce a
hundred pound billet of pattern-welded steel, I recommend attaching pick-ups
and strings to an I-beam; granted it won't look quite so good, but the sound
is nearly the same if one uses a good grade of steel.  Hope this helps.
                                            sfm

>
>Any info would be Appreciated!
>trp@gtech.com
>
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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: spock@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (Steve Horvath)
Subject: Re: Voice box query
Organization: AT&T Bell Labs, Holmdel, NJ
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:13:26 GMT
Summary: Heil Talk Box

In article... frankc@faatcrl (Frank Coffman) writes:
 
> All a talk box is is a driver like you would use with a radial horn.  Instead
> of going from an amp to a speaker, the amplified signal is routed to the
> driver.  A tube runs from the driver to one's mouth.  The mouthed sounds
> are directed into a microphone for amplification through the PA.  That's
> it.
 
> They are fun to use, but a pain to set up and tear down.  They also
> have to be kept clean (at least the tube part), because the tube can 
> get pretty funky.  I always cleaned the tube with alcohol before
> using it, and replaced it fairly often.

Hi.  Haven't been on netnews in nearly a year, but I logged in to 
specifically ask about the Heil Talk Box.   I'm more interested in
knowing about the ease of setting up/down.  Plus, can it be switched
off like a fuzz box? Do you need a separate amp?  If it can be bypassed
does it affect the tone a lot?  I'd like to gig with one, but is it worth
it for a few songs.  If it's as easy to set up as a wah-wah I'd think yes.

Also, if anyone knows some history.  It comes to mind that Chet Atkins 
invented it using a small speaker or something?  Or was it Les Paul, I'm
not sure if Chet was that technical (in electronics).  What was the first
recording?  Any comments appreciated. Thx.

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Newsgroups: rec.music.makers.guitar
From: lrm28@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Sperzel Locking Tuners
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 13:12:05 GMT

One more plug for Graph-Tech products.  I've installed several sets
on many different guitars.  The nuts are great, and using the nuts
and the saddles results in MUCH less "hanging-up" when using the
tremolo.  Check your local music store, or if demand demands, I'll
get the address and a synopsis of parts.
-- 
Luke Mayercin  lrm28@cas.org  "Why does ear wax taste like it does?"
Chemical Abstracts Service is not responsible for these comments.
Newsgroups: rec.music.makers
From: till@acid-rain.lucid.com (Don Tillman)
Subject: Re: ==> +30db GAIN Circuit for Your Guitar: $25 <==
Reply-To: till@lucid.com
Organization: Lucid, Inc.
	<1992Dec30.150508.19815@erenj.com>
Date: 30 Dec 92 11:07:37

   From: markj@hpspdla.spd.HP.COM (Mark Johnston)
   Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:17:35 GMT
   Organization: HP Stanford Park - Palo Alto, CA

   I agree with dave that the 1000x gain would clip.

Well Dave actually said that 30dB would clip, not 1000x.

   A typical guitar pickup output is 30 or so millivolts and les paul
   output can peak at greater than 100 millivolt (0.1 Volt!)

Nope, pickups put out roughly thirty times this voltage.

   So 30 db can be made to clip on a 9 V supply quite easily.

True, nonetheless.

   BUT ... When used with less gain, sounds like a nice addition.

A high quality preamp, yes.  We don't know anything about the quality of
the preamp that started this discussion though.

   From: srfergu@rufus.erenj.com (Scott Ferguson)
   Organization: Exxon Research & Engineering Co.
   Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 15:05:08 GMT

   OK, so what is a good choice of low-noise op amp for typical guitar preamps
   with single-source 9V? 

Damn near anything.  :-) 

Try a TL07x series, OP-27, NE5532, whatever; y'know anything actually
designed for audio work.  

Personally, I don't like the sound of op-amp circuits because of all the
usual high feedback and clipping issues (motto: "op-amps are for weenies"),
so I use a low distortion discrete FET circuit instead.

  --  Don

Newsgroups: rec.music.makers,rec.audio,rec.audio.pro,rec.audio.car