From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.games.board
Subject: Re: A&A - Can Allies ever win (II)
Date: 8 Nov 1992 23:12:16 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu
Keywords: Axis and Allies

markhof@ls12r.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Ingolf Markhof) writes:


>First of all, I'd like to say "thank you very much" to all people which have
>answered my first posting via email or the news. Some of the told me that 
>Russia can't build a fighter and 6 armies in its first turn, because there
>are only 24 IP to spend. Right. This was a typing error. It's one fighter
>and 4 armies in the first turn, instead.

>Most people cried "No! Building a fighter is stupid, Russia must build all
>infantry". I still don't believe that. Germany will retake Eastern Europe
>in the first year and attack the Ukraine in the second. Russia *must* retake
>the Ukraine. If not, Germany will send a large force to the Ukraine, including
>a lot of tanks, and it will palce its fighter there. From the Ukraine, Germany
>can attack either Karelia or Moscow and Russia, or the allies, won't be able
>to defend both. 

Ukraine does not boarder Moscow.  Anyway, at the beginning of the game,
Germany does not have enough fodder to defeat Russia.  That is, if
he attacks right away, he will start losing his tanks.  If Russia buys
all infantry, and places them all (plus 4 from Caucassus) in Karelia,
Germany will have a tough time taking it.  He will be able to, but doing so
means that he will have to ignorre the allied fleet.  With the fleet, the
allies can easily retake Karelia, and then start doing some real damage
to Germany.

>Russia needs some attacking power to prevent this. Infantry are not well suited
>for this. And only two fighters are not sufficient, too. If Russia will not
>build any fighters, how will it be able to prevent Germany from placing its
>attacking force in the Ukraine?!?

Who cares if he places them in Ukraine?  If he leaves Eastern Europe open,
you can plop down your large infantry force there, splitting his country
in two.  Now he must defend Southern, and Berlin, and Eastern, and Ukraine.
Remember, your infantry are much better at defending, so use them like
this.

Hopefully, the US fleet will start picking on Germany as well, fairly soon.

>Next, most people told me Britain should build a Carrier and a transport in the
>first turn, and the U.S. should send two fighters and its transport to this
>fleet. Well, a good idea. But there might be a german battleship and a transport
>in the western mediterranian sea, too. So, germany will be able to destroy this
>fleet, again. And everything the british or the U.S. forces will do to support
>the new fleet around England will not be available to defend Karelia...

Naw, don't buy the carrier the first turn.  You can buy a carrier, but you
don't need to do it so soon.  You should concentrate on holding India
against Japan.  Or you could save some money, and build a large fleet
at once.  Germany probably won't have much of any fleet left after the
allies get through with their first turn.

You can send many allied fighters into Karelia to defend it.  It is almost
impossible to take Karelia one the allied fighters land in there.  At least,
Germany will need many infantry for fodder.  This will take a few rounds.

>So, I'm not sure if this is a good idea. Nevertheless, it's an idea. And from
>all proposals I've got, this seems to be the most promising one. I'll try it.

>Some remarks have been made regarding the far east, i.e., to build a factory
>in India or even in China or the U.S. area next to China, or to use the brithish
>forces in India to attack the japanese area next to  India. For my opinion,
>any factroy in the far east will be taken easyly by Japan. Russia can't support
>such a factory, it needs help by itself to defend Karelia and/or Moscow, instead.
>And to attack from India is a stupid idea, too. The british forces are not 
>strong enough. And even if they would win, Japan would retake any lost territory
>easyly.


Actually, it is a very good idea to build a factor in India.  Japan won't be
able to take it so easily.  Trust me.  Don'f forget about the Russia units
in the East.  Also, their are US troops and a few British reinforcements.
If you play it right, India becomes a tough nut for Japan to crack.
Fighters from Russia can also help defend, if you feel that Karelia is
defended enough (depending on what Germany is doing).

keith

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