HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: scott@rhombus.cs.jhu.edu (Scott Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Superclock Battery indicator indicates wrong?!?!?
Date: 9 Jan 93 00:18:54 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Computer Science Department, Baltimore, MD

ericg@hum.ucsc.edu (Eric Goodman) writes:


>Don't overlook MyBattery (the ShareWare check is coming soon). 

Do overlook it if you use a 14.4 modem (and probably other things
too).  It takes too big a timeslice, scrolling will drive you batty
the way it jerks.  It also might mess up download speed but I never
affirmed that.  $10 down the drain for me.  The author should allow
you to set the update interval to minimize such problems.

I am using Volts 1.2beta now, and am pretty happy with it, it has
history-sensitive usage estimating too, plus a real-time plot of
voltage if you want (analogous with xload for those familiar with
that).  Unfortunately, it hasn't been released yet, and 1.1.1 doesn't
work on Duos (1.1.1 also doesn't have history, just voltage).  If you
pay the $5 for 1.1.1 you can get the 1.2beta I think (and presumably
1.2 will be officially released sometime soon...)

Scott
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Greg Ferguson <rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com>
Subject: Re: Software to shut down and startup a mac automatically
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A76F2ACE3A02320C@godzilla.sps.mot.com>
X-Xxdate: Tue, 5 Jan 93 18:08:46 GMT
Organization: Motorola, Inc.
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d16
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 19:37:30 GMT

With apologies to authors who's names have been deleted to save space...

[stuff deleted]

> >to run to turn it on? It would be *very* dangerous software with much
juju
> >which could startup a Mac which is off. I would be inclined to inspect
my
> >CPU with an axe if I saw my machine turn itself on.
> 
> Perhaps THIS explains the demise of the Lisa and the Mac Portable...
> (both had this capability-- the Lisa could turn back on after a
> certain period of time, and the the Portable could wake up after a
> certain period of time)

(My thought is that they used the portable as a bludgeon to beat the Lisa
to 
bits when it started up and the portable's battery was dead.)

[stuff deleted]

> >
> >Also, PowerBook coupled with appropriate modem can wake from sleep to
answer
> >call...
> 

[stuff deleted]

> First, in response to the Powerbook comment, I don't think "sleep" is
the 
> same thing as "off". If I remember correctly, "sleep" shuts down most of
> the components to conserve power.

The key word in the threads is "sleep".

Was the Lisa (MacXL) actually asleep or "off"? It's been many years since
I've
even *seen* a Lisa so I don't remember much about them. But I think they
were
actually on all the time (just not thinking out loud) unless the ac cord
was out
of the wall.

The other Macs (512, Plus, SE, LC) with hardware make/break on-off
switches are
*really* off.

The Macs with keyboard on/off switches and powerbooks and portables are
in what
is more like a coma. All they're doing is watching for the keyboard
switch/rear
power switch unless the ac cord is pulled.

The powerbooks when asleep are running at reduced speed with screen
dimmed and
drive spun-down. If the battery is too low the powerbook will actually
turn off
(become comatose).

I think my general comments are correct, just details are off. My Mac
compatibility chart doesn't have a field for asleep/off-on and Lisa's are
off
the chart.

Anyway, my original comments about dangerous software with "much juju"
relates
especially to any Mac with a hardware on/off switch. Software which can
activate
a machine which I turned *off* is much too powerful/evil/twisted for me
and
should run on a machine with lots of people (drones) to support it...
like a
mainframe. Someplace like a computer room with false floors, dedicated
A/C,
power conditioning etc. where it can't hurt anyone. :-)

The PowerKey was on the tip of my tongue, but I couldn't remember the
name. That's
probably the best answer.

Regards,

Greg

gregf@shaman.sps.mot.com
rtmd30@email.sps.mot.com
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: sle@world.std.com (steve l edwards)
Subject: Re: Emacs
Keywords: editors
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 22:49:25 GMT

I use a text editor called eMACs 3.0 which I got off GEnie. Email if you
need further info.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: jelmore@nyx.cs.du.edu (John Elmore)
Subject: A/ROSE should become a FAQ
Summary: 'nuff said
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 93 02:02:57 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.154516.11054@rock.concert.net> cbratton@rock.concert.net (Charley C Bratton -- Microspace Communication -- R/D) writes:
>:In Article 23875
>:From: warden@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Robert T Warden)
>:Subject: A/ROSE????
>:Date: 7 Jan 93 17:51:08 GMT
>:
>:
>:I came across a file called "A/ROSE" in the system 7.1 folder.
>:What does this file do??
>
>The A/ROSE file is Apple's Realtime Operating System Extension (or 
>Executive) and as best I can figure, slows my system (Q950 8/230) to
>a crawl.  I don't know what software requires it, but I removed A/ROSE
>and the machine runs fine (and much faster).
>
>Just my two bits.
>
>Charley Bratton
>Microspace R&D
>cbratton@rock.concert.net

FAQ! This has officially become a FAQ, I would say!

I mean, I know the answer now, and I don't even _use_ A/ROSE!

Jay (=
From: babb@sciences.sdsu.edu (J. Babb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: SuperMac's VideoSpigot VDIG update
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Date: 5 Jan 1993 01:20:45 GMT
Organization: SDSU - LARC
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: larc.sdsu.edu

Hey folks,
  With the recent release of QuickTime 1.5 there was also news of an
updated VDIG for the VideoSpigot(I've got ver 1.0, dated Oct. 7, 1991).
I've called Supermac, their salespeople are not too helpful when it comes
to updates, I've sent in the registration, but they haven't mailed me any
updates. Please lemme know where I can find a copy.
THANKS.
Jeff Babb.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: aberdeen@linus.mitre.org (John Stuart Aberdeen)
Subject: IIcx: soldered vs socketed cpus
Organization: Research Computer Facility, The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 14:30:29 GMT


A simple question: what steps must I take to determine whether the cpu
on my IIcx is soldered or socketed?

John Aberdeen
The MITRE Corporation

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Sys 7.1 and mixed lang's
From: wgentry@netlink.cts.com (William Gentry)
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 15:45:39 PST
Organization: NetLink Online Communications, San Diego CA

david_goldsmith@taligent.com (David Goldsmith) writes:

> In article <1992Dec30.202339.17849@oclc.org>, glf@oclc.org (Greg
> Feldman-Hill) wrote:
> > At any rate, from the little I've seen, the new system is supposed to
> > be able to support multiple languages at the same time... like even in
> > the same document.  Is this true?
> > 
> > I'd like to have an English system (use English for the menu items and
> > dialog boxes, etc), but be able to select a Hebrew font in the middle
> > of my MSWord document AND have it key in right-to-left.  Is this
> > possible with the new system?  Is there more I'd have to buy, besides
> > maybe some PostScript or TT Hebrew fonts?
> 
> Yes and no.
> 
> To do what you say, you need the following:
> 1. System 7.1 (any country, including US)
> 2. WorldScript I extension (not yet available from Apple)
> 3. Hebrew Script System and fonts (not yet available from Apple)
> 4. A Script Manager compatible word processor, which MS-Word is NOT.
> 
> (By the way, replace items 2 and/or 3 with WorldScript II and other script
> systems, and the same requirements apply for any Apple-supported script,
> and you can have multiple installed at once, including both WorldScript I
> and II)
> 
> My guess is that everything on the list will be available soon, except that
> I don't think MS Word will be Script Manager compatible for a long, long
> time, if ever. Most of the popular word processors are not, currently.
> 
> I've heard things to the effect that WordPerfect 2.1.2 and the latest
> version of the Nisus support the script manager, but I don't know for sure.
> 
> David Goldsmith
> Taligent, Inc.
> 10725 N. DeAnza Blvd. MS: PD/3
> Cupertino, CA  95014-2000
> david_goldsmith@taligent.com


Nisus Software has Hebrew version of Nisus the word processor which I 
have heard is very nice. As for MS Word, it may not be SM compatible but 
I have had little problem using WSII/Korean with v.5.1a.

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From: news@svin09.info.win.tue.nl (Usenet account)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: TwiLight screen saver, any problems ?
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:04:13 GMT
Organization: Eindhoven University of Technology, the Netherlands

Reply-To: robert@info.win.tue.nl
From: robert@wsooti05.info.win.tue.nl (Robert Lukassen)
I am the author of the free screen saver TwiLight for Classic's and
Classic II's that was released recently and is available from the
sumex archive (sumex-aim.stanford.edu, path: /info-mac/cp/twilight-711.hqx).

One user has reported that the machine crashed whith the new version (which is
version 7.1.1). Could owners of Classic's or Classic II's, which have downloaded
this program report to my (by email) if it runs on their machine or that it
caused any problems.

Any reports are greatly appreciated. Please state also what machine you have
and what version of the system software you run. Note that this program really
requires system 7 and a Classic or Classic II. Maybe it works on PowerBooks but
since the local Apple dealer won't let me try, I can't be sure. Please report.

Greetings, Robert



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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: aaron@noproblem.uchicago.edu (Aaron L. Bratcher)
Subject: Re: System 7.1 ftp-able?
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:34:45 GMT

In article <92357.134917IO92143@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IO92143@MAINE.MAINE.EDU  
(Donna Foster) writes:
> Since I haven't seen 7.1 on bric-a-brac, I assume it won't be available  
for
> ftp-ing. Can someone confirm or deny this? Thanks.

Apple is not giving this one out. You now have to purchase Mac OS  
upgrades. (which of course is better in that the OS will now be a  
self-supporting effort on Apple's behalf)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.programmer
Distribution: world
From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:09:32 CDT
Subject: Re: SADE --- the worst debugger I ever used!!!!!

peirce@outpost.SF-Bay.org (Michael Peirce) writes ...
> maennig@siggi.informatik.uni-dortmund.de (Olaf Maennig) writes:
>> Okay, that's what I went through the last few weeks. Now, the most
important
>> question to me: IS THERE ANOTHER AND BETTER DEBUGGER OUT THERE?
>
>Most professional programmers I know use Jasik's The Debugger.  It's
>worth its weight in gold when you are deep into debugging your code.
>
>It's not perfect, the user interface is a bid hard to learn at first,
>but once you're up to speed it's a real pleasure to use.

I'll say the user interface is a bit hard to learn.  I think it's an
understatement to say that the user interface sucks big time.  But it
_is_ a pretty capable debugger.

-- 
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From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer)
Subject: Re: SADE --- the worst debugger I ever used!!!!!
Organization: Netcom. San Jose, California
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 23:20:47 GMT


Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
From: Ellen Joyner
Subject: Re: Icons Go Generic
Organization: Bell-Northern Research
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 14:23:41 GMT

In article <2055@intermec.UUCP> howie@intermec.com (Howard Kaplan x1696)
writes:
>I am having a problem with icons turning back to "generic" application icons
>on my new mac IIvx running system 7.1.  It seems that my Quicken 3.0 icons
>will consistenly turn generic.  I've re-installed Quicken many times any they
>always change eventually (usually within a few hours).  One time last night I
>re-started with all extensions off and they returned to normal.  I restarted
>with extensions on and they were gone again.  Tired rebuilding the desktop
>several times with no success.  I also started turning off inits one by one
>using init manger until the only init running was init manger with no
>success.  Needless to say this took a lot of time.  The other funny thing is
>the original locked disk shows generic icons also when this happens.  I
>restarted one last time be for giving up last evening with extensions off and
>the icons stayed generic!
>
>Help!
>
>Howard Kaplan
>


Funny you should have this problem too. Just two days ago a friend had the
same problem. However, we were able to rebuild the desktop, and they came back.
 As it turns out, many people's machines are having the same problem
at work are doing the same thing. I read that when you upgrade (as we have
all been doing with all the latest Microsoft upgrades) that the Desktop file
changes as you all new applications.  System software automatically
copies the program's icon families to the Desktop file so they'll be
handy for the Finder as it displays document icons.  System software
DOES NOT, however, delete Desktop file information from applications
you delete from your hard disk. Moreover, if you copy an upgrade to
an application to you your hard disk, and that upgrade contains a new
icon, the older icon family may prevail.

I rebuilt someone elses desktop and the icons did not change back, so
after that I changed the view of the icons in the control panel,(select
the middle size) and whamo they appeared. 

My proposal to the solution:
Rebuild the desktop (making sure you hold down the option and command keys
while restarting until you get the dialog box asking if you want to rebuild). 
Second, try chaning the view of the icons to the middle size.

Good luck
Ellen 




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From: braun@daytona.tunl.duke.edu (Richard Braun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system,comp.sys.mac.misc
Subject: mac 512 errors
Keywords: mac 512k, old system errors
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:00:09 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

A couple days ago a friend of mine was given an old mac 512k.
However the machine came without any system software, so he asked
me for help.  What is the latest system that will run on this
model mac?  We found an old system 4.2, chopped it down so it
would fit on a single-side disk and tried it (it successfully booted
a mac plus), but he got an error 12 just before it finished booting.
Does anybody know what this error is.  Does anybody have an old system 
that will work on his mac?

Is it possible for his mac to use a double-sided drive?
He said he saw where he could get a mac plus logic board for $150,
maybe this would be the best way for him to go.  But a cheaper
solution would be better (after all $150 could be spent a lot of
other ways).  Any help would be appreciated.


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From: delac@midas.mgmt.purdue.edu (Chas. DeLa)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Rebuilding desktop ?
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:30:24 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.mac.system
Organization: Krannert School of Management

In article <delac-120193091202@dela.mgmt.purdue.edu>,
delac@midas.mgmt.purdue.edu (Chas. DeLa) wrote:
> 
> There's a key press sequence under System 7 that allows you to rebuild the
> desktop without rebooting first.  Can anyone tell me what it is?
> 
> Chas.

Let me add that I'm aware of the reboot while holding down command-option
procedure for requestion a desktop rebuild.  As I mention above, there is
another (d'fferent) key sequence that brings up the same dialogue as
rebooting w/ command-option.  I've just forgotten what it is but I've used
it before.

Maybe I've lost my marbles (?) but I don't think so.

Chas.

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From: yoda@ele.crl.melco.co.jp (Kiyoshi Yoda)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: difference between sytstem 6.0.7 and 6.0.8
Date: 7 Jan 93 23:38:35 GMT
Organization: Mitsubishi Electric Corporation

Please let me know the difference between system 6.0.7 and 6.0.8.
I have both versions, but have never tried 6.0.8. 
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Distribution: world
From: vuori@netcom.com (Veikko Vuorikoski)
Organization: Odyssey Ultraware, Inc
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 05:18:10 CDT
Subject: Installer insufficient memory message?

	I was trying to install System 7.0.1, which I downloaded from Apple,
but when it gets to end of the first disk, it gives an Insufficient Memory
message. I've tried giving it all the memory I had(3.5 megs) and turning
off all extensions, but it still won't work. Any ideas?
	Thanks in advance...


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From: vuori@netcom.com (Veikko Vuorikoski)
Subject: Installer insufficient memory message?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:57:46 GMT
From: tgl+@cs.cmu.edu (Tom Lane)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: Losing the Performa "Documents" folder
Summary: Launcher is the culprit
Date: 13 Jan 93 01:57:51 GMT
Article-I.D.: cs.C0rs4F.DEJ.2
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

I wrote:
> I just became the proud owner of a Performa 600, which came with "System
> 7.1P".  Aside from At Ease, which is easy to turn off, this system seems to
> be just like regular System 7.1.  Except for one thing.  There is a special
> folder "Documents" at the top level.  Any time you enter a file open/save
> dialog box, THE BOX STARTS OUT IN THE DOCUMENTS FOLDER.
> ...
> So how do I turn off this "training wheel"?

Thanks to Spencer Thomas for setting me on the right track.  There's a
control panel item called "Launcher" in Sys 7.1P; it provides sort of an
application icon dock.  I thought I had disabled Launcher (by killing the
alias for it in Startup Items) but it turns out that it loads an INIT
anyway, and this INIT re-creates the dreaded Documents folder at startup.
If you take Launcher out of the System folder entirely, then you can trash
the Documents folder and it will stay dead.  Everything seems to work as in
regular Sys 7.1 now.

Launcher could actually be a useful thing, although it doesn't seem to do
anything you can't do with the Apple menu.  But this misfeature is enough
to send it to the trash in my book.

			regards, tom lane
From: mgreeny@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (David S. Greenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.mac.system
Subject: Re: What is Maelstrom 1.03 game doing while loading?
Date: 10 Jan 1993 22:23:40 -0600
Organization: Greeny's Bar & Grill
NNTP-Posting-Host: uxa.ecn.bgu.edu

mancini@fysik.uu.se (Derrick C. Mancini) writes:

>In article <1993Jan10.023909.3248@nntp.hut.fi>, jmunkki@vipunen.hut.fi
>(Juri Munkki) wrote:
>> 
>> In article <01062012.n9s1n1@inter.interzone.ch> chip@interzone.ch writes:
>> >Every time I start it up, it displays a startup screen and 
>> >a progress indicator labeled "Loading". It usually takes
>> >about 10 seconds to complete. During this time, my harddisk
>> >makes sounds that are very similar to the ones that my 
>> >HD indexing program produces when searching.
>> >
>...
>> 
>> Maelstrom has all those sprite shapes as color icon resources
>> in one big file. It steps through those resources one by one
>> and probably converts them to some obscure format. Unfortunately
>> the resources are not in sequential order in the resource file,
>> so the disk drive has to seek back and forth.
>> 
>> So, it isn't looking at your files. It's just doing what it is
>> supposed to be doing: loading the game.
>> 

>Well, maybe so.  I observed the same noisy searching.  The STRANGE
>thing is that I heard the same thing when I first installed the program,
>before even running it.  Maybe resources/code are set up in a strange
>way?  I know no other program that does this, to this extent.

Geez.... I took a look at the code with ResEdit, and it's just loading
the icons, then drawing a bit of the line, then loading another icon,
etc... until it's all done.  Otherwise you'd just be sitting there
getting impatient (e.g., "Damn it....why is it taking so long! I want to
play NOW!") *grin*...

As for seeking all over the disk, this could be due to fragmentation of
files on your hard drive... try running a hard drive optimizer over it
(backup first!) and see if that doesn't stop some of the seeking...

>By the way, OTHERWISE, a GREAT game.  My kudos to the author, I DID
>SEND IN THE REGISTRATION FEE, I advocate that YOU ALL DO TOO!

>Derrick C. Mancini
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