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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 15:41:59 CDT
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From:         "(Alan Rea)" <gwdokokl!ahrea@MAILHOST.ECN.UOKNOR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Public Land Survey System

>also, is there a public domain gis coverage of the public land survey
>grid?  thanks for any help.
>
>*******************************************************************
>David Stoms      stoms@rocky.geog.ucsb.edu      phone:(805)893-7044
>U.C. Santa Barbara/Biogeography Lab               fax:(805)893-3146
>*******************************************************************

Yes, check out the DLG (Digital Line Graph) files from the USGS,
National Mapping Division.  (1-800-USA-MAPS)

The last index I have shows about half of California available at
the 1:24,000 scale.  That means a lot of files, (and $) so ask about
1:100,000-scale DLGs also.  They are probably available for much
broader coverage, and cost less because there are fewer files.

The costs aren't bad -- $40 for the first file, less for multiple
files, but they can add up if you want to cover a large area.  You
might have to get it on 9-track tape, that was the only option last
time I bought data from them.  There might be some private vendors
reselling the DLG data on other media (diskette, CD-ROM, etc.) which
could end up costing you less, depending on how much coverage you want,
and at what scale.

Alan Rea
Hydrologist, US Geological Survey (Water Resources Division)
Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
ahrea@qvarsa.er.usgs.gov
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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 21:49:27 PDT
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From:         David Stoms <stoms@GEOG.GEOG.UCSB.EDU>
Subject:      Public Land Survey System

does anyone have experience with the original field crew notes from the
Public Land Survey (especially for California)?  what data were
recorded, such as witness tree type and size, etc.?  were the
notes readable? and where did you get them from?

also, is there a public domain gis coverage of the public land survey
grid?  thanks for any help.

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David Stoms      stoms@rocky.geog.ucsb.edu      phone:(805)893-7044
U.C. Santa Barbara/Biogeography Lab               fax:(805)893-3146
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Date:         Mon, 5 Oct 1992 15:31:04 EDT
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From:         LOVE%TEMPLEVM.BITNET@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU
Subject:      WINDO ALERT

                                  MEMO

From:          James Love
               Taxpayer Assets Project

RE:            Update on GPO WINDO legislation
               (HR 5983, successor to S. 2813 and HR 2772)

Date:          October 5, 1992


BACKGROUND

Congress is considering legislation that would provide the public
one-stop-shopping *online* access to federal information systems and
databases through the Government Printing Office (GPO).  The service,
which would *supplement* other agency and private sector information
products and services, would be priced at the *incremental cost of
dissemination* for most users, and be free to 1,400 federal depository
libraries.  A broad coalition of academic, library, journalist, citizen
and business groups support the legislation.

The original House bill was HR 2772, the GPO Wide Information Network
for Data Online (GPO WINDO), and the original Senate bill was S. 2813,
the GPO Gateway to Government Act.  A compromise bill, HR 5983 (which
has a number of concessions to House republicans)  was passed by the
House of Representatives on September 29, 1992.

     FMI:
     ====================================================
     fact sheets on S. 2813 and HR 2772,
     copies of S. 2813, HR 5983 or HR 5983, and
     a comparison between HR 5983 and HR 2772 and S 2813,
     can be obtained from:   tap@essential.org

     For additional information, contact the American
     Library Association at:  202/547-4440
     ====================================================

HR 5983 was scheduled for a Senate vote on friday, but it has since been
held off the Senate calendar by anonymous Senate republicans.  The
Senate leadership is trying to find who is holding the bill up, and why.
If the "holds" on the bill aren't resolved in a few days, the bill will
die, deferring action until next year at the earliest.


WHAT YOU CAN DO

If you support this important access broadening legislation, contact the
Senate leadership to urge action on the bill this year.  Since Congress
plans to adjourn this week, telephone calls are the preferred method for
making your views known.  [At this point, a single telephone call to the
right Senate office might make the difference.]

The current bill number and name is:

     HR 5983, the GPO Electronic Information Enhancement Act

Important telephone numbers to call are:

          SENATE

          Republican Leader
          Senator Robert J Dole (KA)         202/224-6521

          Assistant Republican Leader
          Senator Alan K. Simpson            202/224-3424

          Democratic Whip
          Senator Wendell H. Ford            202/224-4343


Any Senate office can be reached at:         202/224-3121

---------------------------------------------------------------
James Love                         voice:    215/658-0880
Taxpayer Assets Project            fax:      call
12 Church Road                     internet: love@essential.org
Ardmore, PA  19003
From: R.J.Driessen@CENSIS.UTAS.EDU.AU
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: ARC 6.1 (digitizing aerials)
Date: 29 Sep 92 07:14:25 GMT
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Aerial Photography and GIS

To obtain geometrically correct information from aerial photographs for
entry into a GIS essentially involves two problems.

1.	Elimination of the tilt of the camera be it near-vertical or oblique
photography.  An affine transformation of the image points  -  a function
found in all GIS software  -  will eliminate the tilt distortion using a
minimum of four control points.

2.	Relief distortion caused by variation in terrain elevation has to be
eliminated on a point by point basis.  This may be done in one or two ways:
(a) by the use of standard photogrammetric techniques using two photographs
and observing the Z coordinate at every point;  (b) the use of a single
photograph and a DEM.  This is the more appropriate method for direct entry
into GIS.  While the algorithms to do this are well known, it is a
non-trivial task to produce reliable software to perform these corrections.
(See any photogrammetry text)

We completed the development of such a package earlier this year which has
been commercially released as a Third Party module for ARC/INFO 6.1 on
workstations available from ESRI dealers or Salamanca Software Pty Ltd (Fax
61 02 279301).

As a rule, beware of systems that do not use a dem to rectify the aerial
photograph data because at best they can offer only an approximate rubber
sheeting type solution in areas of varied relief. These systems may use a
large number of control points to define the surface. If you think that say
20 control points do not adequately define the surface of your study area
then the corrections made using them will also be inadequate.

Products such as the image integrator were not meant for images with relief
distortions but for orthophotos where the distortions have been removed
using expensive and specialised equipment. Which  I guess is why ESRI have
gone to so much trouble to support a product such as PhotoGIS. The
combination of image integrator and PhotoGIS, to remove distortions, is a
powerful data capture tool.

If anyone is interested in PhotoGIS I will happily send a demo disk if you
send your hardware software details and your address. I will also send a
paper discussing these issues via email to any interested party.

Cheers Rob.
===================================
Robert J Driessen
Centre For Spatial Information Studies, University of Tasmania,
GPO Box 252C Hobart, Australia, 7001
E mail:R.J.Driessen@censis.utas.edu.au   Phone: 002 202106, Fax:  002
240282
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Date:         Sat, 3 Oct 1992 14:54:00 EDT
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From:         "(dt11)" <Derek_THOMPSON@UMAIL.UMD.EDU>
Subject:      Assistant Professorship at the University of Maryland

This announcement of recruiting by my department is posted to the GIS-L
bulletin
board because of our interest in people with cartography qualifications.

Derek Thompson, Dept. of Geography, University of Maryland, College Park
301-405-4063        dt11@umail.umd.edu

PLEASE POST AND DISTRIBUTE

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Assistant Professorships for Fall 1993 -- UNIVERSITY OF MARYLAND AT COLLEGE
PARK

The Department of Geography is intending to make a number of faculty
appointments during the next two years.  As the first stage of this process
we are currently searching for two faculty for Fall 1993 (or possibly
Spring 1993) as part of a continuing program of departmental enhancement.
Appointments are expected to be made at the Assistant Professor level but
it may be possible to appoint at a higher level.  The interests of
candidates should complement or enhance our existing ones.
Those with specialisms in cartography, human dimensions of global change,
hydrology, or urban geography, are particularly encouraged to apply.
Successful candidates will either have a Ph.D. or will have received one
before taking up their appointment.

Increasing our diversity with respect to gender, race and ethnicity is a
major departmental, college and campus priority.  Women and minorities are
encouraged to apply.  Successful candidates will be productive research
workers with a strong commitment to teaching graduate and undergraduate
courses.  The normal teaching load is 6 hours per week.

Currently there are 14 faculty in the department and ten research faculty.
Thirty five full-time graduate students are resident in the department and
there are 90 majors in geography.  Interests of the department include
cultural, social and urban geography, biogeography, geographic information
systems, cartography and geomorphology.  The department has a strong record
in gaining research grants from NASA, NSF, NOAA, and various foundations.
It has very good computing facilities including over 20 SUN and HP Work
Stations.

The attention of potential candidates is drawn to the descriptions of
faculty research interests, grants and publications described in the
Graduate Program booklet.  The program described in the Undergraduate
Booklet is currently under review, the principal change being to reduce
both the total number of hours required and the range of required courses.

For further information please write to the Chair of the Search Committee, Dr
R. Mitchell,  Room 1113 Lefrak Hall, Department of Geography, University of
Maryland, College Park, MD 20742, or phone 301-405-4050.  For best
consideration, applications should be received by the 1st November 1992.

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Date:         Tue, 29 Sep 1992 16:06:38 -0500
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From:         spathira@ELLI.UNE.EDU.AU
Subject:      microsoft fortran77

Thanks to all who responded to my request for microsoft fortran and
IDRISI geo-referencing. Unfortunately, I could not send any messages to
those who have bitnet addresses.

Sumith Pathirana
Centre for Coastal Management, UNE-NR.
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Date:         Fri, 2 Oct 1992 17:53:16 -0400
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From:         Ferenc Csillag <fcsillag@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: noaa data
              02 Oct 92 13:49:18 EST." <9210021619.AA23340@mailbox.syr.edu>

NOAA maintains an (non-open-accessible) database for AVHRR imagery;
your best chance is to contact the people who manage the database
and could do an initial search for you.
Once you have the image-id, you have to send an order for it, and
it costs roughly $80/scene (depends on how many tapes they write).
I've had very good experience with

 Richard J. DeRycke
 /PN=SDSD.D.SERVICES/O=NESDIS/ADMD=TELEMAIL/C=US/@sprint.com
                         UNITED STATES DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE
                         National Oceanic and Atmospheric
                              Administration
                         NATIONAL ENVIRONMENTAL SATELLITE DATA
                              AND INFORMATION SERVICE
                         NATIONAL CLIMATIC DATA CENTER
                         SATELLITE DATA SERVICES DIVISION
                         WASHINGTON  DC 20233

If you have direct telemail access, then SDSDDSB.

There is, in addition, PLDS (pilot land data system) which is
accessible via telnet at 128.183.36.16. (I have only used it for Landsat,
and worked OK.)

*Ferko Csillag
 Geography/Syracuse
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 02:42:55 CST
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From:         u8016811@CC.NCTU.EDU.TW

sub listname u8016811@cc.nctu.edu.tw
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From: mtvrme@nl (Rob Meijers)
Subject: gis and environmental modelling conference ?
Summary: info request on conference
Keywords: environmental modelling, breckenridge
Organization: Rijksinstituut voor Volksgezondheid en Milieuhygiene,Bilthoven,NL
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 13:43:20 GMT

In some obscure magazine I found an announcement for a 
(to me interecting) conference on combining GIS and environmental 
modeling.
I tried to contact the conference secretariat but got no reply.
Could someone confirm or correct  the following information:
	
	2nd international conference on Integrating GIS and 
	Environmental Modeling
	26 - 30 September 1993
	Breckenridge, Colo. USA
	MCGIA conference secretariat
	fax: 805-893-8617

The faxes I send seem to arrive correctly but I never got an answer.

Thanks in advance for any replies,

Rob Meijers
mtvrme@rivm.nl
fax: ..(31)30-250740 
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From: tomw@IASTATE.EDU (Thomas M Woestman)
Subject: cookie cutter
Reply-To: tomw@IASTATE.EDU (Thomas M Woestman)
Organization: Iowa State University
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:54:10 GMT

I beleive that you can do what you want with Arc/Info.  I have used a process
developed here at ISU GIS to do that for polygon coverages.  I believe that
a similar method could be used to do the same for line and point coverages.

If you would like a copy of the aml or just to discuss this in more detail
drop me a note at tomw@iastate.edu

p.s.  The process we use can be computation intensive at large scales.
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Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 18:17:58 EDT
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From:         "(Vince Angelo)" <esri!reston!vince@UUNET.UU.NET>
Subject: Re: cookie cutter

In Message-Id: <9209302053.AA29546@relay1.UU.NET>,
Youxuan Jin (uunet!PLAINS.NODAK.EDU!jin)  asks:

>There is a GIS firm in my region is looking for a GIS package that has
>the specific function they referred as cookie cutter.

>It is a spatial query capability. Given a region in the form of the polygon(s)
>of arbitrary shapes(holes are allowed), using it as a key to retrieve all the
>database entities(points, lines or areas) covered by that region. I think
>the difficulty is that the region can be arbitrary shape. Anybody knows if
>ARC/INFO can do the job?  In other words, can I use ARC coverage as a key to
>do the retrieval.

     Only for the past 10 years or so. :-)  Once the "overlay" process
was perfected, Arc/Info was born.

     The command in question is "CLIP"  It accepts a data file and a
"cookie cutter" outline, and returns all those specified features
within the clip region, regardless of shape or holes.
     Of course, there are several other commands that could be used to
perform variants on the cookie cut:  UNION, INTERSECT, IDENTITY,
UPDATE, SPLIT, and ERASE.

[My apologies to the net if you've been swamped by responses; I've
got a built-in hour delay in my mail feed :(  ]

-- Vince

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
 Vince Angelo (vangelo@esri.com | uunet!esri!vangelo)  /  The nice thing
  GIS Ninja/Software Guru/Unix Wizard/Technodweeb     /  about "standards"
_|_| Environmental Systems Research Institute (ESRI) /  is there are so many
_|_| ESRI-Wash,DC :: Reston, VA :: (703) 438 - 8295 /  to choose from.
From: CRPDSANT@BRUSPVM.BITNET (Claudio Santos)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Region Building
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:29:23 GMT
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COULD SOME ONE HELP ME AGAIN?

         All mail were discard before to write in my disk memory.

         I need information about region building models appling

         in legislative non-partisan districting.

         Sorry by spend your time!

         Since now very thank.


CRPDSANT@BRUSPVM
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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 12:10:10 +1000
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From:         jhr@GDWB.OZ.AU
Subject:      Re: IBM GIS

This was on CPGIS-L.

Subject heading : IBM Disaster

Any comment from IBM'ers or Geovision Personnel who read this list?


> From CPGIS-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu Thu Oct  1 00:48:08 1992
> Date:         Wed, 30 Sep 1992 10:14:29 -0400
> Reply-To: "Chinese Professionals Geographic Information Systems Use List"
> Sender: "Chinese Professionals Geographic Information Systems Use List" >>
> Hi, Lin Hui,
>
> Thank you for your message. I know IBM have GIS Solutions (centers),
> however, as you will hear today, IBM has its disaster in GIS.
>
> Today, IBM will anounce that it will cut 40,000 staff across the world
> and it will close many GIS centers. For example, in Warwick (UK), there
> is one, but will be shut down today. I have been trained to use its
> new GIS but IBM has decided to drop it before marketing.
>
> As an alternative, IBM decided to have GeoVision solution. IBM is to
> but 20% share of GeoVision. IBM has already 20% share of Tydac. So
> IBM will market the products from GeoVision and Tydac.
>
> This perhaps is the biggest news in GIS world and you may post it to
> the net if you feel our fellows would like to hear it.
>
> With regards!
>
> Zhilin Li
>
From: panda@syrinx.umd.edu (Lisa Nyman)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Re: Intro GIS documents
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:09:25 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland at College Park

In article <1992Oct1.101102.27976@dragon.acadiau.ca> 841613t@dragon.acadiau.ca (Don Tyzuk) writes:
>
[request for intro information on GIS deleted]

>Me too! Is there a FAQ?

There is a FAQ and I would like to include some referencs to GIS literature.
Could people please EMAIL me their 'favorite' references of GIS 
lit and I'll either a) compile a short listing for the FAQ or
b) compile a longer listing as a separate monthly posting.  Also, I'd
like to include a reference to the GIS Bibliography out there, but
unforunately the into post expired before I could save it, so I'd
like geneal info on that, too.    Thanks.



-- 
Lisa Wolfisch Nyman              "Life is too short to wear ugly underwear."
panda@syrinx.umd.edu                                REMEMBER TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER
** Geographers: the original Space Cadets. To know one is to love one.
New from Dweeb Publishers: Memoirs of a Workstation Widow, Oh the Agony of It!!
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Date:         Mon, 28 Sep 1992 08:26:00 GMT
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From:         Peter Halls <PJH1@VAXA.YORK.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: ARC 6.1 (digitizing aerials)

Jim Ebert recommends Scollar et al's ARCHAEOLOGICAL PROSECTING AND REMOTE
SENSING (1990, Cambridge University Press).  Yes, I've got it.  Its invaluable.
Especially if you are about to write your own rectification software!!!!!!

The fact remains, though, that there are many punters out in the styx who must
rely on the software available to them - eg GRASS or ARC/INFO etc.  Such people
ARE NOT and NEVER WILL BE programmers;  I respect Scollar's work - and I am in
a position (when there is time available) to make use of it - but I sense that
many of the questions being raised are from people who UNDERSTAND THE
UNDERLYING PRINCIPLES but are not in a position to write new modules, etc., to
meet their needs.

I was hoping to draw some indication as to whether other people had investigated
this area AND written / modified modules, etc., and were willing to share them.
Perhaps its too much to ask nowadays - and I should get my head down, write the
tools myself (and perhaps keep quite whilst others do the same?) - or am I
completely misjudging the situation: has no-one actually got their heads down
to implement any solutions yet?

Peter Halls
University of York

PJH1@UK.AC.YORK    ... or t'other way about
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From: pt@geovision.gvc.com (Paul Tomblin)
Subject: Re: GeoVision Press Release
Reply-To: pt@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 11:44:43 GMT

"(Alasdair Mckay)" <mckay@HYPERCOMP.NS.CA> writes:

>Re : Enterprise GIS
>Since  "GIS"  is itself a BUZZ WORD ( or acronym )  whose exact nature seems
>very fuzzy to me .......... I was doing that sort of thing in the late 60's

Um - I think it's more like Humpty Dumpty in "Alice In Wonderland": when we
use a word, it means exactly what we intend it to mean.  It's all a question
of who's in charge, us or the words!

In this case, I believe "Enterprise" is referring to those large databases
that large companies run thier whole businesses out of.  (You know, the ones
all those thousands of Cobol programmers thought they had exclusive rights
to)


-- 
Paul Tomblin, pt@geovision.gvc.com or {uunet,revcan}!geovision!pt
(This is not an official opinion of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
A man is rich in proportion to the number of things he can afford to let alone
  -- Henry David Thoreau.
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Subject: Re: re:ARC 6.1 digitizing aerials (IMAGE IN
From: chris@ironwood.ntu.edu.au (Chris Devonport)
Date: 26 Sep 92 10:21:06 +0900
Reply-To: chris@ironwood.ntu.edu.au
Distribution: world
Organization: GIS Laboratory, Northern Territory University
Keywords: PhotoGIS

PhotoGIS is a new innovative technique which rigorously corrects for tilt and relief distortions in data digitised from aerial photographs using a DEM.  

Contact: 	Salamanca Software 
		PO Box 844
		Sandy Bay
		Tasmania 7005
		Australia

		Phone: +61 02 278614
		Fax:   +61 02 279301

or email driessen@censis.utas.edu.au for more information.


---
Chris Devonport			  Internet: chris@ironwood.ntu.edu.au
GIS Laboratory			                     Tel: 089 466 711
Northern Territory University, Australia	     Fax: 089 410 460

	    


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Date:         Thu, 1 Oct 1992 15:59:00 GMT
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From:         Peter Halls <PJH1@VAXB.YORK.AC.UK>
Subject:      RE: What's FAQ??

This reminds me of a DECUS (DEC Users Group) session once on TLA's ...

FAQ is the TLA for a Frequently Asked Question
TLA is the TLA for a Three Letter Abbreviation

GIS is the TLA for ...

Folks, some of us have been in this game TOO LONG - 'cos we forget that
the newcomers have not yet learned our language!
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