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From: icpa@iat.holonet.net (Tony Rodriguez)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: International Software Jobs
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:22:31 GMT
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From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Who composed the J-land anthem?
Date: 15 Oct 1992 07:13:46 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

I have heard once before that the anthem was composed by a German composer
based on his impressions of Japan.  Of course I may be dead wrong on this,
but when did the modern national Japanese anthem come about?  

On the 67832nd day of creation, Amaterasu Omikami commanded,

"Let there be kokka,"

and the holy notation fell into the emperor's hands from the sky.
"What do I do with this?" asked the emperor.
"Oh, let every kid in the country have a singing contest with it every
monday morning from now on," replied Amaterasu, gazing at the hand-held mirror
and flossing her teeth.
From: ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: PARTLY! WRONG.
Date: 14 Oct 92 19:45:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.oerCZca00WBNQ907Fe
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

MARK,

         THIS WAS THE NAME OF KOREA BEFORE THERE WAS A NORTH OR A SOUTH.
THIS A STILL A VERY SENSATIVE ISSUE FOR ALL KOREANS. SO IT IS KINDA OF
SATANIC OF YOU TO INDIRECTLY ASSOCIATE ME IN THE MIDDLE OF A MY NEWLY
FOUND KOREAN FRIENDS AND THE OLD DEMOCRACY AND COMMUNISM CONFLICT. BUT
THIS IS WHAT I'VE COME TO EXPECT FROM YOU(AND YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE)ALL.
THIS IS REALLY HARD TO HOLD BACK DEFINITIONS THAT I HAVE FOR YOUR
CHARACTER. BUT, I MUST. NICE TRY. BUT, IT DIDN'T WORK. YOU ARE THE LOSER
BECAUSE YOU HAVE JUST SHOWN WHAT I 'VE SAYING ALL ALONG. YOU ARE AN
INHUMAN BEAST. TO PUT A FORM OF GOVERNMENT IN FRONT OF HUMAN LIFE. MORE
SO BECAUSE YOU TRIED TO INDIRECTLY BREAK THE BOND OF FRIENDSHIP. TO THE
JAPANESE OUT THE STUDY JUST WHAT HAPPENED. MAY NOT SEE IT FOR A LONG
TIME.
   
                     ARE YOU BRITISH! YOU CERTAINLY CONDUCT YOUR
HUMANITY AS SUCH. BOTH NORTH AND SOUTH KOREANS ARE MY PEOPLE. AND, MY
FREINDS ARE MY FRIENDS FOREVER.
From: htakeda@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: flames - history  My opinion
Date: 17 Oct 92 02:34:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: Bonnie.9210161934.aa13097


GAK!!!!

WHAT IS GOING ON HERE!!!  I leave for a couple of days and I
find over 250 unread news articles.  Most of which I really
didn't want to read...

AnD tHe UsE oF cApS hAs BeEn CoNfUsInG mE  hEhEhEhEhE ;^)

Anyway I have a point to make.

This seems to be the history cirriculum evolution....IMO that is.

Government X does something really bad.  Like killing a lot
of innocent people.
Then the killing stops at one point and the facts about these
things have not yet reached government X's people.
But After the killing incidents most of government X is still
in power.
Question: Is government X going to admit to their wrong doing
and educate their own people that their own government is evil?
A: No.  They are likely to lie about the facts, present only one
side, or distort the facts.

This is apparent when you live and learn on two sides of a
border.

One thing to think about is --->  X can equal Japan, but it could
also equal USA, Canada, Austria, Korea, or any other country.
(I'm not saying they are, please no Atlanta-Calgary fans :)

DON'T BELEIVE ALL THAT YOU HEAR...

------------------------------------------------

Also, those that are new on this board, it's usually not this
bad.  But I tend to find that there are some people who are
out there that love to catch someone that makes a politically
incorrect statement and will rip you apart.  I was a victim of
this treatment.  Don't let it get to you!!! (I was stupid enough
to)

We all make mistakes!!!



===============================================================
htakeda@bonnie.ics.uci.edu

HIRO "The HAB" Takeda
GO Montreal Canadiens, Kokudo Keikaku Bunnies, Taiyo Whales,
Montreal Expos, and the Dallas Cowboys.
UC Irvine, Electrical and Comp. Engin., Info. and Comp. Science.
"What good is a used up world and how can it be worth having?"
ALL THIS TIME - STING
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan,comp.arch.storage,comp.periphs.scsi
From: rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Around the vitory of Swallows
Date: 10 Oct 92 21:53:34 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School


   Hello, Fans of Japanese Baseball
   Maybe, somebody has already reported or will report soon the victory
championship of Central league by Yakuruto Swallows in the detail.
   And I report something around it. 

   Fortunately, a riot didn't happened in Osaka at least according to
the news until 3:00 pm (USA ET). But many Tigers fans shouted 'Go home'
for Yakuruto players immediately after the game.

   Furthermore, about 40 people including a lady wearing miniskirt
dived into 'Do^ton bori' (Canal of Do^ton). They gathered around the bridge
of 'Ebusu', and sang 'Rokko^ Oroshi'(the cheering song of Tigers). 
But when the inferiority of Tigars was repored, a salaried worker dived
into the Canal. After that many people followed him. One of them is a 15
year-old boy wearing his swimsuit, who changed his clothes to swimsuit and
came there after the loss of Tigers.

   By the way, the doll of 'Kuidaore', which was said to be had Tigers fan's
eyes on for throwing into 'Do^ton bori', stood on this day with a swimming 
ring and a placard, which said 'Wate oyogema sen nen (I can't swim)', 
at his neck.


********************************
*      Hirokatsu Watanabe      *
*------------------------------*
* Mo^karimakka?  Sapparidesuwa *
*         Maido Ookini         *
********************************
From: lowreypl@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Phillip Lowrey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Mr. Asano
Date: 15 Oct 92 04:53:39 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Oct15.045339.9718
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

Dear Mr. Asano,

	I am happy to learn that you do not harbor hatred toward any racial
group, including whites.  It might also be pertinent to point out that most of
the readers that post to this newsgroup are probably not racist.  The majority
of the posts are quite understanding of racial issues.  When someone brings up
an issue involving race it is usually done to provoke discussion among the
readers, not to intimidate or insult any one person or group.  Discussion of
racial and cultural issues by people from many different backgrounds allows
for a better understanding of one another, don't you agree Rikiya?  

	From your most recent posts I also gathered that it is indeed your
intention to return to Japan in the future and work to educate your fellow
citizens about the evils of racism.  Is this correct?  I'm sure that your many
experiences here in the U.S. will help you in that endeavor.  I would also
encourage you to travel to other lands (maybe in Europe and South America) so
that you can experience the cultures there.  Travelling is one of the best
ways to learn how people in other countries view your homeland (Japan).  You
will get a sense of what Japan as a nation must do to improve its reputation
in the world.

	Finally Rikiya, one of the greatest impediments to racial harmony is
the unwillingness of many to let go of the past.  While we must aknowledge the
evils done to people in the past, (slavery, ethnic "cleansing", etc.) we must
not carry these old hatreds with us into the future.  Resentment is very
difficult to abolish, yet we must if we are going to improve the world. 
Acknowledge the past, put it aside, and get on with the future through peace
and equality.

	Good luck to you Rikiya.

Sincerely,
Phil
From: robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Shameless Japaness must recognize and apologize for Invasion China
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:24:37 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbang.berkeley.edu

Guiltless Chinese, go jump in the lake.
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:37:41 EDT
From: <CMH114@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Buddhist Sects

Wasn't Nichiren that strange 13th century Buddhist sect leader so popular with
Kanji Ishawara and the whole mystic Showa Restoration movement? All I remember
was that it's original 13th century version was remarkably intolerant of other
Buddhist sects. What is the basic ideas behind this modern Nichiren movement?
Is it in any way connected with the prewar "final war" people like Ishawara?

Mitch Hagmaier         One Moment in Annilihation's Waste,
Quest Laboratories     One Monent, of the Well of Life to taste-
Terraforming Division   The Stars are setting and the Caravan
State College, Pa      Starts for the Dawn of Nothing - Oh, make haste!
cmh114@psuvm.psu.edu
From: rehir@gauss.med.harvard.edu (Hirokatsu Watanabe 432-2275)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Okinawa stereotypes
Date: 15 Oct 92 17:31:04 GMT
Organization: Harvard Medical School


 robohen@ocf.berkeley.edu (Henry Robertson) writes:

>All this talk on those poor Koreans, but what about the Okinawanese??
>Are they considered an undesirable presence at the workplace?
>Is physical contact with Okinawans considered unhygienic, as with eta?
>What are the stereotyped personality traits?  That they are lazy?
>Some big temple bell that was stolen from Okinawa by the US Army was
>returned last year.  What mixture of religions do Okinawans worship?  Is
>Christianity per capita population higher there than the rest of Japan?
>Is there a civilian airport at Naha?  

   Excuse me. Are you kidding?  If not, is your article too extreme?
At least, I guess, now there is no extreme situation which you said
in Okinawa.

   Surely, Okinawa was invaded in 1609, and dealed cruelly by Shimazu.
   Surely, Japanese government didn't surrender before US Army's land
in Okinawa, though they tried to end the war before land in Kyu^shu^ 
or Honshu^. And people in Okinawa suffered by Japanese Army.
   Surely, Okinawa was made a sort of pawn for USA by Japanese government.
   Surely, I heard people from Okinawa were difficult to get their jobs
until 1970's.
   Surely, there are several problems in Okinawa still now.

But, I don't think, people from Okinawa are an undersirable presence at
the workplace still now. Of courese, some companies may discriminate them
still now. But stupid persons exist everywhere.
   I have several friends from Okinawa. They all found work in companies 
which are listed on Tokyo Stock Market. They married with persons from 
other areas of Japan. 
At least, they were more popular with young ladies than me. :-)

   If you would like to said in the past, you should use the past tense,
shouldn't you?

 
   Naha airport was used by US airforce or the Japan Self-Defense Forces
too, really. And so, is there a civilian airport in Fukuoka or Sapporo
(Chitose)?

   And if there is the harsh situation in people of Okinawa, why is
the average life span in Okinawa is best in Japan?

*******************************
*      Hirokatsu Watanabe     *
*-----------------------------*
* Mo^karimakka? Sapparidesuwa *
*         Maido Ookini        *
******************************* 

Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 23:44:31 -0400 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: the Rikiya Asano rants
	<1992Oct12.015324.20727@u.washington.edu>

Mr. Choi,

               I like Koreans to much to argue with you. I remember what
the Japanese Imperial System did to Korea. And, I'm not to happy about
that. So, back OFF!
From: smittie@beach.csulb.edu (Smittie)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Smoking by Japanese adolescents
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:04:00 GMT
Organization: Cal State Long Beach

>Adolescent girls who smoke are almost invariably furyou (juvenile delinquents),
>who later become associated with yakuza or become bar hostesses.  An awful
>lot of these kinds of women will try and marry off to American software-
>programmer types and start a new life in Sunnyvale, CA, so the breast cancer
>statistics of those remaining in Japan are likely to be lower than reality,
>since the new wives will be counted as Americans.

Shall we talk about GROSS GENERALIZATIONS.

I know a lot of Japanese women who have been smoking since they were 16 or 17.
Although some of them do work in the bar trade, none are in anyway associated
with the Yakuza and the vast majority of those that I know are married to
Japanese men and live in Japan. None of these women were ever furyo. I think it
is dangerous to catagorize people on the basis of something as commonplace as
smoking. But then, I think catagorizing people on the basis of anything is
dangerous.

smittie
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: kanekawa@oahu.cs.ucla.edu (Nobuyasu Kanekawa)
Subject: Re: Shameless Japaness must recognize and apologize for Invasion China 
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 01:48:47 GMT

Calm down please, dear friends, - Mark and Victor !
Let's make a fruitful disscussion.

vlee@dgp.toronto.edu (Victor Yuencheng Lee) writes:
: As I said, if you still want to distort the history, you are absolutely
: a SHAMELESS Japaness.

This reminded me a tone of saying "OMAE WA HIKOKIMIN DA!" 
(you must be an anti-patriotist) in Japan during WWII.

We have to be more clever and wise than ever, during WWII, I guess.
Nowadays, Japanese are reading many things on the history.
-- 
Nobuyasu KANEKAWA  (E-mail address in Japan : kanekawa@hrl.hitachi.co.jp)
From: keis@psy.uwa.oz.au (Keis Ohtsuka)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Heian Alphabet
Date: 9 Oct 1992 09:09:19 GMT
Organization: The University of Westrn Australia
NNTP-Posting-Host: wapsy.psy.uwa.oz.au

sakimura@sscl.uwo.ca writes:

>AIUEO
>KAKIKUKEKO ....
> 
>sort of 50-on (alphabet) is now usually used.
>While it is perfectly logical to layout in a way that the "sounds"
>are decomposed to vowels and consonants, it has no meaning
>in it.
 
The ordering of consonants in the Gojyu-on (50 phonemes) suggests
the influence of Sanskrit (i.e., k, s, t, n, h, m, y, r, w).
Japanese probably learned how to order and analyse vowels and
consonants in the language when they learned Buddihst scripture
mantras in Sanskrit via China.  

K  s  hts k

Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From:  (Hajime Yoji)
Subject: Re: HAJIME!
Organization: University of Tasmania
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 09:27:01 GMT

In article <AeqWfgG00WBLI7ZYZT@andrew.cmu.edu>, ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu (Rikiya Asano) writes:
> 
> S'up,
> 
>              I suggest that you do what your doing. Your are living in a very
> Strange Land. Maybe, if you study a little history about Austrailia and
> how it was conceived and a nation; this will be alot of help to you. On
> the point of the Asians not responding. Don't worry. They are either
> niave, stupid, in great
> fear about what you are doing, or they themselves have a deep psychological
> allusion that they are the same as the Cacausian. They are in a fantasy,
> you are not. Do what you feel is right. But, be fair and don't avoid the
> punishment if you are not fair. Treat all the same. If the Caucasian
> wants more give him less.
> If the black want more give him nothing.(because, he know better than to
> take average of the naive).  

I'm having great difficulty figuring out what you mean by "Asians...niavve,stupid"
"if the caucsian wants more give him less" or "give a black nothing". R U racist?
It seems to me you hate every sigle white in the world. You said you had bad 
experience. I don't know how bad it was  but you ain't the only one.  I also 
encountered similar one in here. 
I was in a public bus. There was a small school kid playing around in bus. What he 
was doin was very naughty but cute so I smiled at him. He asked me where I'm from.
I told him I'm a Japanese. He replied me "Japanese! Piss off. Piss off, piss off....". I was
so embarrased but and look around the bus. Many people(all of them were white) in 
the bus seems to be having fun cos their face were smiling.  I still remember the 
feeling  of confusion and embarrasement. 
But I can't jump to your feeling  of 'I hate whites'. Don't ask me why. But if you are 
so against racism, so as you shouldn't be a racist like those who done something bad 
to you. 

Peace

Hajime Yoji
From: blamb@hri.com (Bill Lambert)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Foreign Ogres (was Mr. Baseball
Date: 7 Oct 92 16:11:38 GMT
Organization: Horizon Research, Inc.



=> In article <7320@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com> blamb@hri.com
=> (Bill Lambert) writes: (That's me)
=> >
=> >A bit over simplified and over generalized for me.... but OK, I know
=> >what you're saying. The implication though, is that it is fear that
=> >drives such a "gaijin con". It is fear sometimes, but mostly it is
=> >fear of not acting properly, or fear to offend, and this is a little
=> >different than that of your implications (actually, I'm trying to
=> >explain better the background of what I think you mean), but
=> >causing the same outward effect.

=> In article <1992Oct7.130535.11967@u.washington.edu>,
=> tvp@gibdo.engr.washington.edu writes:
=>
=> I wasn't trying to imply that Japanese were necessarily afraid of
=> physical harm per se. The fear of offending, of not acting properly,
=> and of not knowing what to do is exactly what I was talking about.

I thought so, but it wasn't so clear as the response was made about
why 8 year-old girls may lock themselves in phone booths when confronted
by large dangerous red-haired devils (me).

<stuff omitted>

=> >There's often an element of inferiority complex afoot. This
=> >is also tied in with the tight Japanese social conventions, because
=> >many Japanese feel uninformed about what's expected by foreigners....
=> >assuming that foreigners have similar conventions and restrictions
=> > ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
=> >that they don't know about!
=> >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

=> How true! Japanese are always asking me how to say (in English) some
=> "scripted" Japanese line that's always said in a very strict context.
=> Or how to act in some "scripted" social event. When I tell them that
=> I'd play it by ear (or that very few weddings include a huge rubber
=> cake, dry ice fog and lighting of a heart-shaped candelabra) they look
=> at me increduously.

Hmmm... I never went to a wedding with dry-ice fog, but I did see that
at a Pink Floyd concert once :-) 

=> Also I'd be interested in a discussion of what Japanese equivalents of
=> terms such as "improvise", "play it by ear", and "make it up as (we)
=> go" imply. I have a feeling that the connatations would be quite
=> different in Japanese because Japanese people, in general, definitely
=> don't like doing this.

Strangely though... many Nihon-Jin can accept the lack of conventions
and relative flexibility here, and in fact thrive in the US environment.
Some will remain at a loss with no clue how to act in such a free form
social structure. It's case by case, but many revel at the lack of such
social pressures, and adapt quite readily. It's sometimes heartening to
see a fish out of water flying in the air when that happens.

- Bill Lambert
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 11:16:07 -0400 
From: Rikiya Asano <ra01+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: THANK YOU FOR THE RYUICHI SAKAMOTO  BUT...
	<1bg3vdINNoah@agate.berkeley.edu>


                                          THANK YOU ALL, ESPECIALLY YOU
TAD, FOR YOUR INFORMATION ABOUT RYUICHI SAKAMOTO BUT ALSO I WOULD LIKE
TO KNOW WHAT IS CURRENTLY OUT BY AKIKO YANO, HOSONO AND HAJIMA
TACHIBANA. I WOULD REALLY BE GRATEFUL.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: rreed@terapin.com (Rick Reed)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
Subject: Re: Would someone like to respond to this gal?
Date: 11 Oct 92 02:43:58 PST
Organization: BBS

Well, what exactly is your surname?  I'm kinda curious since you were
mentioning it?  I thinkg you not being able to speak/write Japanese very well
is sort of a weak reason for not going there.  I mean, you could always learn
basic conversational skills.  Especially if you go to Berkeley, they have great
Japanese language courses there.  You should take an Asian-American Hist. class
by Ronald Takaki he's pretty good.  I'm sure your Japanese relatives will
understand you not being able to speak perfect Japanese.

I was born and raised in Hawaii and my whole family is from Japan so I still
can speak and read in a way.  Well, ever since I've been to CA, I am starting
to lose it.  Anyway, the last time I've been to Japan was 8 years ago and I was
a kid.  I still spoke a considerable amount of the language so it wasn't so
bad.  I'm sure that if I went there now, I wouldn't really like it as much
since I have some problems with certain types of Japanese status quos.  I'm an
American and not Japanese and also a feminist so I swear I think that I will
get in to some big arguments or fights with some guys.  But I still want to go
and visit my family but mainly, I think I'll concentrate on eating.  If you
ever decide to go, lose a few pounds so that you can gain it back by eating all
the good stuff in Japan without caring about weight.

        -Michelle T.  (using R. Reed's account)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.japan
From: yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu (Mark Choi)
Subject: Apoligies to Rikiya Asano
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 22:42:04 GMT

In article <geqntRC00WCZQ_jV0Q@andrew.cmu.edu> Soshi Iba <si0l+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>Nani ittenda?


At this moment, I'd like to apologize to Rikiya for my previous posts.
I jumped into a thread that I had no prior knowledge of, unaware of 
Rikiya's good intensions. I am sorry for that, I should have studied 
the thread longer, instead of trying to analyze a single post. I am
sorry, and I hope we can have meaningul discussions in the future! 

-- 
    .  .      +---------------------------------+
  --|--|      | Mark Yeon Wook Choi             |
   /.\ |      | yeonwook@hardy.u.washington.edu |
  --|--|      +---------------------------------+  
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