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From: feurer@brahms.udel.edu (Gary Alan Feurer)
Subject: Re: "Sisters" song - where????
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 19:11:12 GMT

In article <l7bt5aINNs9k@smli.Eng.Sun.COM> germond@popov.Eng.Sun.COM writes:
=>
=>>O.K. Movie quote-ahaulics, name this movie for me.  It contained
=>>the song:
=>>
=>>sisters, sisters, there were never such devoted sisters,
=>>many men have tried to split us up, but no one can
=>>lord, help the mister who comes between me and my sister
=>>and lord, help the sister who comes between me and my man!
=>>
=>>I'm thinking late-70's?  Help if you can.
=>>You'll win "Movie trivia genius of the hour" :-)
=>
=>Earlier than that; probably the late 40's or early 50's. The movie was
=>"White Christmas," starring Bing Crosby and Danny Kaye. The song was
=>sung by a sister act who were alternately falling into and out of love
=>with the heroes. I can't recall the name of either actress, I'm
=>sorry to say.

Vera-Ellen and Rosemary Clooney.			--gary
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From: cleveland.Freenet.E!cb366@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Need Clockwork Orange Info
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:38:00 GMT
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Markus Stumptner (mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at) writes:

>From article <1992Jul22.164904.6835@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>, by
cb366@cleveland.Fr:
>> Yikes, did he/it/she/whatever have a sex change operation?!?!?!
>> Walter Carlos. Geeeeeesh!!!! Egaad!!!! Oooooooh!
                                                                             
 
>What're you going to do, now?  Burn all his/her albums?  Only touch     
>them with rubber gloves? Have them exorcised?  Sheesh. 

Nope, it just struck me as humorous. Okay?  :)

Mark B. Bendiksen
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From: hasse@solace.hsh.se (Hans Holmberg)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: TERMINATOR III (3)!
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:14:17 GMT
Organization: Solace Computer Society, Sundsvall, Sweden

I've heard rumours that Arnold has signed a contract for making
Terminator 3. Anyone know if this is true or just ramblings?

Hasse

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From: griffith@scam.Berkeley.EDU (Jim "The Big Dweeb" Griffith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.games.trivia
Subject: Buckaroo Banzai experts?
Followup-To: why bother?
Date: 30 Jul 1992 22:18:08 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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I need to find out the correct spelling of the following names, as they
appeared in _BUCKAROO BANZAI: ACROSS THE 8TH DIMENSION_.  If you can check
the movie, I'd appreciate it.

		John Whorfin
		John Bigbooty
		John Yaya
		John Smallberries

Thanks.  It's probably not worth posting, so email will do.

				Jim

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From: emzx@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Christopher Walken
Date: 21 Jul 92 16:21:11 EDT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Cornell University

In article <1992Jul17.213315.21079@polari>,
gregs@polari.online.com writes: 
> k_workman@csc32.enet.dec.com (KWorkman) writes:
> 
> 
>>Can someone kindly give me (without spoiling the plot) an idea of what
>>Communion is about?  Also does any one have an idea how one would go
>>about finding out when Walken might be in town doing a play or something?
>>I would enjoy seeing him perform in person.
> 
>>-Kw
> 
> It's the supposedly true story of a group of people who had been kidnapped
> in their sleep by aliens, taken to a ufo lab and studied.  Sorry if that's
> too big a spoiler, but that's what happens.  And Walken really is the best
> part of this film.  Probably the only good thing, actually.
> 
> I consider it to be a sham, because the author of the original novel just
> happened to be a professional writer on the supernatural.  I think he wrote
> _The Wolfen_ and some other werewolf/vampire type stuff.  Just my opinion.

I saw "Communion" - based on a Whitley Striber book, it's a movie about being
abducted by aliens.  Terrible movie - really cheesy, and a horrifyingly silly
"What does it all mean" scene in a museum at the end.  Highly recommend you
stay away from that flick.

I hear Walken is really good in "The Comfort of Strangers," a film which also
starred Natasha Richardson(Handmaid's Tale).  Can anybody support this claim?
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Subject: naked lunch
From: lkampf@desire.wright.edu
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:24:32 EST
Organization: Wright State University 

Funny, I thought a review should come from someone familiar with the work
in question. I see lots of reviews from people who have no idea what the 
man's work is about!
From: JW83HISW@MIAMIU.BITNET
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Jim Cameron and Escape from New York
Date: 23 Jul 92 12:57:42 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

According to the gossip sheets, Cameron and the director of *Point Break*,
Kathryn Bigelow, started seeing each other after Cameron and Gale Anne
Hurd got divorced.  Thus, Cameron produces Bigelow's movie.
From: levin@bbn.com (Joel B Levin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: _Stand By Me_ Query SPOILER
Date: 21 Jul 92 13:29:28 GMT
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dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge) writes:

|In article <13583@mindlink.bc.ca> Crawford_Kilian@mindlink.bc.ca (Crawford Kilian) writes:
|>What got me about the last scene of this movie was that the author, after a
|>self-satisfied smile at the literary power of his last line, turned off his
|>computer without bothering to save his file. That to me was just the climactic
|>piece of stupefaction in a  truly, madly, deeply stupid movie.

|This has been brought to Rob Reiner's attention on MANY occasions. His
|position is that there is a change in the camera angle before you see
|Dreyfus turn off the computer, and therefore he may have saved his files,
|exited the program, etc and Reiner just "skipped" showing us this. :-)

It was never clear to me that he turned off anything besides just the
monitor.

	/JBL
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From: rjf@cbnews.cb.att.com (robert.j.fredette)
Subject: Re: favorite movie musicals
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 19:41:57 GMT
Summary: Sinatra

In article <1992Jul23.093142.1@gallua.gallaudet.edu>, rlwilliams@gallua.gallaudet.edu writes:
> Ah, one other one of my favorites...but the name is escaping me... it was the
> musical version of "the Philadelphia Story" and starred Bing Crosby, Grace
> Kelly and Frank Sinatra and Louis Armstrong... some of the great songs were: 
> True Love, You're Sensational, Did you eva'
> 
> SOMEBODY must remember the name of this movie!
> 
> rlwilliams@gallua
> 

HIGH SOCIETY, but then again, was it a musical?

I'm on a friend's account so thats not me above, thats me below.

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From: kat@gtc.com (Kathryn Fielding)
Subject: Re: favorite movie musicals
Organization: Genisco Technology Corp.
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 00:06:22 GMT


In <1992Jul23.194157.21260@cbnews.cb.att.com> rjf@cbnews.cb.att.com (robert.j.fredette) writes:

>HIGH SOCIETY, but then again, was it a musical?

>I'm on a friend's account so thats not me above, thats me below.

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Yes, it was a definitely a musical in the traditional sense. While there
are some songs that are being performed in the context of the movie, there
are also songs sung just because, as in any good musical.

Oh heck, just go watch it. :-) :-)

Both it, and the non-musical predecessor are among two of my favorites. 
It's interesting comparing the two versions.

btw, it's just been re-released on Laser Disc, letter-boxed with a stereo
soundtrack.

-kathryn


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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Short Shameful Confession.
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 18:50:57 GMT

In article <5778@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil> rpwhite@cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite) writes:
>
>>Does this mean you get to meet Clint and Gene?  If so, I'd
>>pay the $150 too!

Try not to sit near Gene.  He talks during movies.

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From: bsercomb@neumann.une.edu.au (You'd better believe it!,,,)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Date: 24 Jul 92 00:58:21 GMT
Reply-To: bsercomb@neumann.une.edu.au
Originator: bsercomb@neumann.une.edu.au

>>So... T3 should be coming out soon...  hahaha...  You see the arm will still
>>be in the present... meaning the 'same' future will still evolve (the nuclear
>>holocaust)...  T3 should settle that problem... don't you think.....
>>
> 
> I was thinking of a possible plot for part 3 and you just filled in the 
> missing link I needed.  How does this sound...
> 
> Arnie plays a dual role as a skynet scientist working on a certain 
> defence project and as a terminator sent back to prevent judgement day.
> Another terminator is also sent to cause JD and/or get rid of John Connors.
> 
> I think that the date of judgement day would be a good release date.
> (or maybe a week before, just in case ) :)

Oh, come now... if you remember, John Conner recorded two [and only two] 
energy pulses from the time machine... so that's ALL that went back. You
are now talking about the reconstruction of the time field generator
[also remember that they NUKED it right after they sent back Arnie in T2]
It's gonna take some time to rebuild.... besides, I hate the character[and actor] of the young John Conner and I NEVER want to see that little dork again!

Brad.

P.s. PLEEZE find a new plot line! All of the research was based on the
smashed CPU, not the arm. All you'd get from the arm is an interesting
hyperalloy and some incredably sophisticated actuators.

YAWN.
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From: roby@chopin.udel.edu (Scott W Roby)
Subject: Re: Batman Returns soundtrack (was Re: Really mega disappointment.)
Organization: University of Delaware
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:55:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.182243.5291@deeptht.armory.com> crisper@deeptht.armory.com (Crisper Than Thou) writes:

[...]
> but it's not exact. Trailers for sequels usually don't contain the music from
> the film they are advertising, it seems. Whether this is to keep the music
> from being heard before film release to make it better for audiences, or if
> it's just some legal thing, I dunno. However, sequel trailers almost always
> seem to use mostly stuff from prior films; every ad I saw for ALIEN 3 used
[...]

Well, often, the musical score is one of the last things to be added to 
the film.  The preview music is often chosen months before the release, and 
in many cases is recycled music from earlier films.

I agree with another poster that said that TESB is to SW as BR is to B, 
soundtrack-wise.  (i.e. BR's soundtrack better than B's)x

On another topic, having seen Batman Returns only once when it first came 
out (end of June), I now find I only remember the villains' scenes well, 
and don't seem to find any scenes with Batman memorable.  I find this 
a bit disconcerting since Batman is the title character.  Perhaps the 
movie should be retitled "Batman Disappears" or "The Rogue Gallery"?


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From: Eric T. Jue <etjue@lbl.gov>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: HEATHERS WANTED
Date: 27 Jul 1992 21:14:19 GMT
Organization: LBL
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I am a collector of movie posters and would like to find some US release
one-sheets of the movie "Heathers."  If you have this poster and would
consider selling it, please e-mail me at etjue@lbl.gov.  I am also
interested in other Heathers collectibles and these US one-sheets: When
Harry Met Sally, La Femme Nikita, Stand by Me, Princess Bride, Spinal
Tap, Terminator, and Akira.
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From: s1070422@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Damien Binding)
Subject: Re: James Cameron interviewed (T2 spoilers)
Organization: Monash University College Gippsland, Churchill, 3842, Australia
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:03:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul24.164738.9417@eecs.nwu.edu> kaufman@eecs.nwu.edu (Michael L. Kaufman) writes:
>Some good news. According to the issue, the following Laserdiscs are upcoming:
>
>1) Terminator. There are talks going on about a Special Edition of Terminator.
>No extra footage, but supplements and a new stero soundtrack will be included.
>Maybe CAV.
>
>2) Abyss. Currently underway - out for holiday 1992 shopping. Extensive extra
>footage and extensive suppliments. Transfer done by Cameron and Van Ling.
>Probably priced at $100. From the interwiew - 25 minutes of extra footage, LBX
>at 2.35-1 and it might even make it to the theatures ala BladerRunner.
>
>3) Terminator II. "... sometime in 1993 we should see a collector's edition of
>Terminator II. Extra footage, extensive suppliments, the works."
>
My brother has the T2 script book written by Cameron and it has all of the
scenes they were originally going to add and some they filmed and didn't add.
A lot of them are small details like The black guy who creates SKYNET's dream
sequence of the future, Arnie has to get his chip removed and modified so he
will learn, and Sarah doesn't want to reactivate him, an ending showing the
world 25 years in the future with John's kids playing in the play-ground and
Sarah a Grandmother. She does more talking about Judgemnet Day passed.
    Just little things that added more plot and detail to the movie.

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From: seiffe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Erica Seiffert)
Subject: Re: new big name movies
Organization: Indiana University
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 17:57:20 GMT

In article <1992Jul22.1489.24554@channel1> "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com> writes:
>     Two rumours worth quoting:
>
>     1) Talks are underway among several major studios to do a remake of
>     the classic Errol Flynn swashbuckler "Captain Blood."  The name most
>     often tossed about for the director is John McTiernan, who directed
>     "Predator, "Die Hard," "The Hunt For Red October," and "Medicine Man."
>     Kevin Kline may be set for the Flynn role.
>
		I for one would thourghly enjoy a GOOD swashbuckling film
	in the vein of Captain Blood (nice pun eh?) and "The Black Swan."
	I am also a great fan of Kevin Klines, but I'm not sure he could
	do a serious pirate. 




>     2) Production is scheduled to begin in Setember of the recent
>     Anne Rice novel "The Witching Hour."  Richard Donner, director of
>     "Superman" and the "Lethal Weapon" movies (plus many others), is
>     slated to direct.
>---
		Great! If they do a movie and if it's a success (Richard Donner
	could do a lot to make it so) then Hollywood will want a sequel so
	than maybe finally she will write one to this book! 
		I enjoyed this book as much as the "Vampire Lestat" but I have
	never been more frustrated with a character at the end of novel than
	I was with Rowan. More than the "Vampire series" needs another sequel,
	THIS book needs a sequel.

ems
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From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: anyone recognise this
Date: 23 Jul 92 01:04:42 EST
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Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

NN`>        "There are very few personal problems that can't be solved
NN`>        with a suitable application of high explosives."

     This quote, or perhaps one very similar to it, was used in the movie
     "Uncommon Valor" starring Gene Hackman.  Hackman plays an retired
     army officer whose son is a POW in Vietnam; he trains a bunch of old
     Vietnam vet friends of his in guerilla tactics, and they head into
     Vietnam to bust his son out.  Silly concept, but the movie isn't
     half-bad.  Hackman, as usual, is terrific.

     The above quote, or perhaps one very similar to it, was used by
     "Blaster," the demolitions expert (every Hollywood-movie army outfit
     has one), as he's explaining land mine tactics to the soldiers-in-
     training.
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From: clamen@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart Clamen)
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 22:23:44 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon University
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Originator: clamen@BYRON.SP.CS.CMU.EDU


In article <131011@lll-winken.LLNL.GOV> ed@wente.llnl.gov (Ed Suranyi) writes:

   So here are my favorites:

   West Side Story ...
   The Sound of Music ...
   Mary Poppins  ...
   My Fair Lady ...
   Oliver! ...
   Fiddler on the Roof ...
   Hair ...

   South Pacific ...

I don't like _South Pacific_ all that much.  The rest are all great.
Ones I would like to add to the list:

   Singing in the Rain
   42nd Street

Also, do Gilbert & Sullivan adaptation count?


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From: jmacd@intacc.uucp (Jason MacDermott)
Subject: Re: Night of the Living Dead remake
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 03:18:54 GMT
Organization: Matrix Artists' Network


In article <2517@nlsun1.oracle.nl> gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)  writes:
>
>   Whatever happened to the remake of Romero's "Night of the Living
>Dead" that Tom Savini was doing. I read about this film a good while ago
>in Fangoria: the zombies looked excellent and apparently Romero was very
>pleased with the job Savini was doing. After that, nothing. Can anyone
>shed light??
>
  The remake was released in theaters in 1990 I believe, and is now on video. 
Infact, here in Canada it was on the "First Choice" pay movie channel (kind of
like HBO in the States).  It's great.  A must-see!
 
  See ya... Jason MacDermott
jmacd@intacc.uucp
 
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From: leeper@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Mark R. Leeper)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: HONEY, I BLEW UP THE KID
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 00:28:56 GMT
Keywords: author=Leeper

In article <1992Jul22.202624.19432@news.eng.convex.com> cash@convex.com (Peter Cash) writes:
> Jessamyn West also wrote a novelette in the 50s or early 60s about kids all
> over the world suddenly turning into giants--and turning the tables on the
> adults. I found it in a collection of three or four novelettes...anybody
> remember the title of the novelette, or the book? 

That's right.  I think you are thinking of "The Chilekings."  I had
forgotten about that one.

				Mark Leeper
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From: johnson@spectra.com (boyd johnson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Feminist Perspective of Batman Returns
Date: 28 Jul 92 01:34:49 GMT
Organization: Spectragraphics Corporation

In article <1992Jul23.094342.73@news.uwyo.edu> rtravsky@news.uwyo.edu (Rich Travsky) writes:
>
>In article <poznikof.711847807@sfu.ca>, poznikof@fraser.sfu.ca
>   (Kenneth Shane Poznikoff) writes:
>
>> Then when Cat Woman and Batman are fighting he ends up knocking her
>> down and she says "How could you,  I'm a woman".  That is so pathetic.
>> This sends out a very negative message about the women's movement.  If, 
>> for a moment, we take the view that she represents a positive image of 
>> woman (ie strong and powerful, knowing what she wants) this scene 
>> completely negates all of her strong attributes.  She has reverted to 
>> a meek stereotypical woman.  It trivializes the feminist movement.
>>
>Bzzzt! Wrong! That's not how I saw the scene (or anyone else in my area
>that I talked with). CW plays BM for a sap, playing on HIS stereotypes.
>Once he's close enough, he gets kicked for his efforts.

I was one of the groaners and that pretty much sums up the reason I and
probably most people groaned.  Cat Woman had just kicked Batman's butt
and then played on his gallantry.
I don't think it was supposed to produce a laugh.
A quote from Billy Crystal in "Throw Momma from the Train" fits well:
"That's not a woman.  That's the Terminator"

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From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: _cape fear_
Date: 24 Jul 92 20:14:06 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney) writes:

[deleted movie-related stuff]
>Then, too, not many people call me Frankie. My mother does
>call me Rick, if that helps.
>--
>Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney

Doesn't anyone call you Aloysius? I get that a LOT.

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