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From: egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Helmet laws, abortions and why national health care is a Bad Idea.
Date: 12 Aug 92 17:24:35 GMT
Reply-To: egreen@East.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, RTP, NC
NNTP-Posting-Host: laser.east.sun.com

In article 5887@i88.isc.com, jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>In article <956@pico.OZ> conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au writes:
>
>>Does the term "Central America" mean "Kansas" to you too?
>
>What does Central America have to do with Kansas?

They played a gig there on their last tour.

Pa-dum-Ching.

---
Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
 (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spencer@hailwood.asd.sgi.com (Paul Spencer)
Subject: Re: Cheap Gas in BMW K-100 RS?
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 22:45:01 GMT

kkw@wam.umd.edu (Katarina Wong O'Gara) says:
> I'm going on a long ride with my trusty 1991 K-100 RS.  Mostly long  
> straight interstate.  The owner's manual says  to use 89 octane or
> better, but... what potential problems might I encounter from using
> el cheapo gas, i.e., 87 octane?

Well, since nobody answered the question, but went off on a long
discourse about fuel injection.....

I've encountered no problems. At home I run 91-or-better; but the bike
will run fine even on 87. It even runs fine on the 10% alcohol crap
that's available some places.

Just (a) don't spill any gas on your tank if you can possibly avoid
it. Some of that alcohol-enhanced stuff will melt the paint; and (b)
make sure you replace the fuel filter at the suggested intervals.

A side effect: if you're getting too much backfiring, try using a
reduced octane (like the mid-grade 89 instead of 91). It helps.

....paul

-- 
Paul Spencer                 Silicon Graphics Advanced Graphics Division
spencer@sgi.com                                Mountain View, California
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: spgo@is.morgan.com (Stefan Goellner)
Subject: Re: AMA Progressive Insurance Rip-Off
Organization: Morgan Stanley - IS
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:56:51 GMT

In article <2217@devnull.mpd.tandem.com>, joe@mpd.tandem.com (Joe Senner) writes:
|> dbidwa@sei.cmu.edu (Daniel Bidwa) writes:
|> > Steve Mansfield (smm@uunet.uu.net) sez:
|> > [info about USAA rates deleted]
|> > >I pay $180/year for this.  The drawback on them, though, is that they
|> > >don't insure crotch-rockets in any way, shape, or form.  When I called
|> > >the first time to get a quote, they said they didn't insure my bike, but
|> > >then the lady realised I had said GS550E, not GS550SE.  It's amazing the
|> > >difference one letter can make....;-)
|> > 
|> > Heh. They said the exact same thing when I called. "Nope, sorry, we don't
|> > insure the GS550 because it's a rocket bike [sic]." I was a bit surprised,
|> > considering that the bike in question was a GS550L (hardly a "rocket bike",
|> to
|> > the non-suzukified (maybe one of those water rockets...)). They eventually
|> > relented...
|> 
|> here's one better, I once got a quote for my ZX-11 at approx. $1800/yr.
|> I called back and got a quote on a ZZR-1100C at approx. $400/yr. since
|> they didn't have a listing for "ZZR-1100C" it fell into the "other"
|> category.
|> 
|> it pays to know ALL the designations for your bike :-)
|> 
|> --
|> Joe Senner                                          joe@zx11.cactus.org
|> Tandem Computers Inc.                               joe@mpd.tandem.com

Yeah, but don't they catch that on the VIN?

Stef
	     DoD#0190		              spgo@is.morgan.com
	'82 KZ550 (Commuter)		'84 750 Interceptor (Canyon Carver)
From: leighann@sybase.com (Leigh Ann Hussey)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: cage kill (was: Re: Deer Kill)
Keywords: Whistles
Date: 11 Aug 92 23:09:58 GMT
Organization: Dashing over Ditches

Hm, time for a new motto?  "Live to Fiamm, Fiamm to Live"...

*vroom*
	- Leigh Ann


Leigh Ann Hussey 		leighann@sybase.com
DoD#5913	AMA#624549      
"And they ride, and they ride/ And the White Hounds run beside/ And they'll
seize the night and shake it by the throat."
From: pdsmith@bbn.com (Peter D. Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Goof2 Stolen at Gunpoint
Date: 17 Aug 92 19:11:49 GMT
Reply-To: pdsmith@spca.bbn.com (Peter D. Smith)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Cambridge MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

In some article, somebody writes ...
>my so works for the county health dept.  her boss was called in to testify
>in the case.  the people had a 4' cyclone fence around their pool, someone
>scaled it and fell on the pooldeck.  he sued and won.
>

For those of you who don't read misc.legal...
    (1) Swimming pools are an 'attractive nuisance' and you have to try
	to keep people out.  Now, in the above quote, someone is said to
	have 'scaled' a 4' high fence.  No shit -- my 2 year old neice
	(who is, BTW, totally adorable) could climb that.

    (2) Re: the person using lawnmower to trim hedges, the demise of the
	American aircraft market, etc.  A person with access to LEXUS, a
	computerized legal database, says that none of these urban legends
	is true.  Other comments: that people may win in court, but will
	invariably lose on appeal (or at least, the big, big bucks will
	go away).

    (3) This is America.  I can sue anyone in Boston for $25, and the
        lawsuit can't be thrown out by anyone other than a judge.  This is
	feature I approve of.

ObMotorcycle:
	Last week I took a two-day tour of Western Mass.  Saturday was
	great -- zipping around here & there, looking at the markers
	where Indians killed off my ancestors, going over covered bridges.

	Sunday comes around, and the 'occasional showers' forecast on
	Friday is a steady drizzle.  It's cheap motel, so not only is
	there no restaurant, but there isn't even lousy instant coffee.
	I hop on the bike and take off.   Three closed restaurants later,

		- I'm getting very hungry
		- I'm soaking wet
		- The rain is like little bullets
		- The twisting road is chock full of sand and gravel.
		- and speed-demon bubba tailgaters in pickups

	But I'm on a motorcycle, so I'm happy.


					Peter D. Smith

Dod #6260 "Mom"
From: tiberio@seismo.CSS.GOV (Michael Tiberio)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: Re: Goof2 Wheel and Tires for Sale
Date: 17 Aug 92 12:36:03 GMT

In article <1992Aug15.113552.1812@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu>, ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang) writes:
> Hi,
> 	I am selling a few spare Goof2 parts :
>    2. Used Front Wheel : Has a few small dents from an encounter with a


This wheel bolts right up to a honda hawk and gives you a 3.5x17"
front instead of the skinny 2.5x17" that comes stock on a hawk.
it also puts you part of the way there if you want to add a second
rotor.

t
From: speednut@csource.oz.au (mark jose)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: '93 speculation (was: F Spencer)
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 13:56:43 +1000
Reply-To: speednut@csource.oz.au
Organization: Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia

Original Message From: torda@igc.ethz.ch (Andrew Torda)
Subject: '93 speculation (was: F Spencer)
 
 
> >I heard that Doohan teams up with Beattie and Spencer with Cadalora (250ccm
> >WC '91 and '92).
>
> If anyone else asked, they would be accused of being
> anti-Australian, but I think us Australians are allowed to ask:
> Is is really just rider quality that has made Honda employ so many
> Australians over the last few seasons ?
> Still, Beattie does seem to deserve a ride.
 
 
It is probably because they are getting more satisfaction out of the Australian
riders. Honda put a Japanese rrdner bike when Beattie returned to
Japan's local racing and the guy was hopelessly out of place.
 
I think the Australians (Gardner and Doohan) both are very good at setting
their bikes up. Even last year with the Honda's infamous handling problems
they were still able to keep them competitive.
 
Don't be fooled by Gardner's retirement. He was getting disinterested in racing
because the factory was getting disinterested in him. If Honda wasn't getting
value out of Australian riders, then they would not use them. I think if
Gardner hadn't of quit this yewould have been deposed anyway.
 
It seems that Cadalora is "required" by Honda and Rothmans to stay on 250s
because they have a gauranteed winner and thus maximum exposure for themselves.
Now I hear rumours of a move by Cadalora to Cagiva with Ed Lawson remaining at
the helm. Intereation that - and certainly enough to win a World
Championship.
 
Cheers.
 
 
(Email responses please...)
s

.........................................................
mark jose
speednut@csource.oz.au  Unique Computing Pty Ltd, Melbourne, Australia
The opinions expressed above are that of the author only.
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From: CHERA@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (ARMSTRONG,Roy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing,aus.motorcycles
Subject: Doohan - update, another one
Date: 13 Aug 92 06:00:06 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

An article appeared in the  Melbourne newspaper Herald Sun, today August 13 
1992, the headline was.

"My kidnap ordeal: Doohan

By Geoffrey Harris"

Here are some extracts.

` Michael Doohan has revealed how his private doctor had to kidnap him from 
from a Dutch hospital after he broke his leg.

	So horrified was Dr Claudio Costa at the treatment of Doohah at the 
hospital he flew a Lear jet in from Italy to rescue the world championship
leader.	
	Doohan said Costa was prevented from doing the first operation after
 Doohan broke his right leg  on June 26 in practice for the Dutch Grand Prix. '

The article then went on to say that 

	`They cut the skin at the back of Doohans leg from the knee to the
ankle, and made another 8cm cut on the top of his foot, without shaving his leg.
	" Things went from bad to worse," Doohan said. 
	"The Dutch doctors told me that I could not possibly be moved.
	"Things started to improve when Dr Costa arrived in a Lear jet that had 
been converted to an ambulance.
	"Dr Costa had organised our (Doohan and injured American Kevin Schwantz
's) escape."
	"Doohan said his broken bones had now healed, skin grafts done by Costa
had been successful and he would be 90 per cent fit for the Brazilian GP on
August 23.
The article continued saying Doohan was leading the Championship points etc 
etc...............

The Marshals at Assen were good etc etc.........

Safe riding Roy.
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From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: Re: tires
Date: 19 Aug 92 07:55:59 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes:

>what should i do?  i can't really afford $250 to get sticky tires by this
>weekend.  of course, i also can't afford to fix the bike should the sportmaxes
>get slippery...

In an endurance race, what's probably more significant than how sticky
the tires are is how they hold up to hard use.  I've see the stock tires
on an FZR go from decent tread to bald in an hour of agressive street
riding, which is certainly less punishing than the track.  Why not call
the guy back at Dunlop and see what his concerns are.  If he just says
the Sportmaxes aren't very sticky I wouldn't worry about it.  If he says
they'll evaporate when you push them hard, though, then you might want
to take heed.
-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
From: fischer@netmbx.netmbx.de (Axel Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: Re: tires
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:42:37 GMT
Organization: netmbx, Berlin, Germany

In article <1992Aug19.023228.876@dmpe.csiro.au> mcdonoug@dmpe.csiro.au (Graeme Mc Donough) writes:
>Another thing is that the sticky tyre will in most cases save your ass
>bieing scraped where the street ones wont ( when you make a boo boo)..
>Take my word for it the Dunlop guy was not screwing for your money
>when he was trying to make you do the right thing.
>Take it from me  a B grade Production Racer if that helps.

I take a bit offense in your post so I have to reply again :-)
I'm racing with an amateur license for a couple of years. Not much luck
in national races, but usually top 5 in clublevel races.

As a beginner he will not go to the limits anyway. If you would have read
my post correctly I have stated that there is a brake problem with 
street tyres, so I have taken this into account too.

Nevertheless from my experience guys who have started on a track the first
time with streettyres are much more carefull. They know that they don't have
the best equipment. So it is unlikely they crash. On the other hand neophyte
racers with super equipment usually ride well beyond their own limits. 
And going to crash. 

We have a public racetrack here in germany. Every weekend at least 1 dies
with several others trashing their bikes and themselfs. So I speak with
a 'bit' experience on this subject.

-Axel
-- 
fischer@netmbx.de                                                   DoD #0228
CBR600F2 (stolen) - RD350LCN (street) - XR250R (dirt)
From: ryang@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Robert H. Yang)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: Goof2 Wheel and Tires for Sale
Date: 15 Aug 92 11:35:52 -0500
Organization:  

Hi,

	I am selling a few spare Goof2 parts :

   1. Used Rear Tire : Michelin M59X 160/60 VR17 radial.  Stock tire,
      replaced after 5000 miles.  Probably a good 3000 miles or so left
      on this baby.  About 3 or 4 mm of tread left (2 is minimum
      recommended).  $30 + shipping.

   2. Used Front Wheel : Has a few small dents from an encounter with a
      pothole at high speed.  I just wanted a new one, as this one is a
      little scratched up.  Bead on tire is undamaged, and holds pressure
      at speed.  Butch Anton and others looked at it and said "Nah, don't
      even worry about it", and I probably wouldn't have if I wasn't so
      appearance-conscious.  Rotors, etc. have been removed, of course.
      $100 + shipping.

   3. Used Front Tire : Michelin A59X 120/60 VR17 radial.  Stock tire,
      decided to put stickier rubber on new wheel.  Probably has 5000
      miles left in it (3 mm compared to 1.5 recommended). $30 + shipping.
      Still attached to above wheel, with valve stem, etc, but can separate,
      if desired.
-- 
Robert H. Yang               | DoD # 0593
Pittsburgh, PA, U.S.A.	     | '92 CBR600F2 "It hisses on snakes."
RYANG@DRYCAS.CLUB.CC.CMU.EDU | AMA # 642916

   "Society cannot change until persons change.  We have hope for the
    future because we have seen persons change." - from "I'm OK, You're OK"
From: mcdonoug@dmpe.csiro.au (Graeme Mc Donough)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: Re: endurance front wheel changes
Date: 20 Aug 92 04:52:34 GMT
Organization: CSIRO Div of Mineral and Process Engineering.

######################################
i.  anyone know how endurance teams deal with front wheel/tire changes during
a race?  do they remove the calipers to get the wheel out? (perhaps they remove
the fender and swivel the forks to swing the calipers out of the way?)  also,
i presume they cut off safety wire and then rewire when the new wheel is on,
right?  anyone know how long a front wheel change takes?

axel
########################################

The HRC racing team meathod that I saw is below:
THE TOOLS.
They use 2 air rachett guns :- one for undoing a bolt (high pressure)
			     - one for doing up a bolt (set at low pressure)
A set of tension wrenches with the appropriate sockets.
These tension wrenches are set for the final tightening pressure of the bolt
that they are used on.
MEATHOD
Remove the Clips. You use the high pressure set air-gun to undoo the brake callipiers
The callipers have a push pin clip with a piece of wire attatched to it 
and the bike respectively. The same goes for the axil .
You use the high pressure set air gun to undo the axil and assosciated bolts.
Move the brake calipers off the disks and remove the wheel.
.......
When replacing the wheel It is just in reverse.
Except the brake calipers are Pre-spread with something (possibly a screwdriver)
Also all of the bolts and nuts are done up with the low pressure set rachett gun
and tightened with the tension wrenches.
The reason of that is that if you dont do it that way you will eventually
brake the bolts.


Anyway thats the way that I saw them do it.

Graeme Mc Donough
mcdonoug@mineng.dmpe.csiro.au
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From: ivan@erich.triumf.ca (Ivan D. Reid)
Subject: Re: tires
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: TRIUMF: Tri-University Meson Facility
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 06:22:00 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.170703.21092@rchland.ibm.com>,
	 essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum) writes...
>pretty much the only way i'll make the podium is if everyone else crashes :)
	Keep hoping -- that's how I scored my only win ;-).

>i don't plan to win, i just want track time.
		Enjoy yourself!

Ivan Reid, Paul Scherrer Institute, CH.     			ivan@cvax.psi.ch
GSX600F, RG250WD.	SI=2.66     "You Porsche. Me pass!"	DoD #484
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
Subject: endurance front wheel changes
Date: 19 Aug 92 14:00:32 GMT
Organization: IBM Rochester
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM

hi.  anyone know how endurance teams deal with front wheel/tire changes during
a race?  do they remove the calipers to get the wheel out? (perhaps they remove
the fender and swivel the forks to swing the calipers out of the way?)  also,
i presume they cut off safety wire and then rewire when the new wheel is on,
right?  anyone know how long a front wheel change takes?

axel
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From: CHERA@LURE.LATROBE.EDU.AU (ARMSTRONG,Roy)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing,aus.motorcycles
Subject: Doohan - update
Date: 13 Aug 92 05:57:41 GMT
Organization: La Trobe University
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

An article appeared in the  Melbourne newspaper The Age, August 13 1992, 


"Doohan set to return for Brazilian GP"
London, Wednesday

Here are some extracts.

Australian Michael Doohan who broke his leg at the Dutch Motorcycle Grand Prix
 six weeks ago, is confident he will be fit to return to championship racing by
 the end of the month.
	Doohan, who leads the 500cc championship standings, had a skin graft at
an Italian clinic and is having intensive physiotherapy for eight hours a day.
	"I have now taken the first step on the final stage of my recovery,"
Honda rider Doohan told a team spoksman in England.
	"The plaster is finaly off and I can walk...everybody is sure I will 
make it in time for Brazil."
	Doohan plans to compete in the final two races of the season in Brazil
on the 23 August and South Africa next month.
	Despite missing the past four grands prix, Doohan leads the world 
championship points from defending champion Wayne Rainey of the united States.
	A Grand Prix win is worthe 40 points, and, should Rainey win both 
remaining races Doohan will have to score 19 points to secure his first world 
title.

Safe riding Roy.
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
From: bob@psychnet.psychol.utas.edu.au (Robert G. Reid)
Subject: BSA - Triumph triples
Organization: Psychology Department, University of Tasmania
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 06:56:53 GMT



I'm in the process of building a bike for post-classic series racing in Oz.
Having owned (BSA) triples since they first hit the market here I have 
collected a fair amount of info but I'm very interested to find anyone on 
the net who has had any experience with racing these.
Please reply direct to me at:

Bob@psychnet.psychol.utas.edu.au

Bob
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing
From: mcdonoug@dmpe.csiro.au (Graeme Mc Donough)
Subject: Re: tires
Organization: CSIRO Div of Mineral and Process Engineering.
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 02:32:28 GMT

>using race/sticky tires (like 591's).
>
>weekend.  of course, i also can't afford to fix the bike should the sportmaxes
>get slippery...

No problem, dont let them fool you. When you are a beginner at the track
it is even better to NOT run sticky tyres. With normal street tyres 
you get the feeling for sliding much better. The tyre tells you way in
advance "Hey I am going to slide soon be careful". On slicks or very
sticky street tyres (like Metzler ME1 or Michelin TX) its harder to slide
because when they begin to slide it happens much faster and unexpected.
You have the feeling you can ride like Spencer on them and suddenly, you find
yourself in the dirt :-)

The real drawback with street tyres against sticky tyres is, that you have to
break MUCH earlier, because sticky tyres or even slicks stuck like
chewing gum to the track, so you can brake very very late. 
Street tyres are by far not as good.

####################################################

but what he forgot to also say is that street tyres can slip or skid 
when you are trying to brake for the corner(front and rear).
That is in a strait line mind you.
There is also anoter point .  There is also the tendency for street tyres 
to not be as predictable as a sticky tyre..:  ie:  You will find that 
you will get a far more progressive slide from a stiky tyre than that of a 
street tyre. 
Another thing is that the sticky tyre will in most cases save your ass
bieing scraped where the street ones wont ( when you make a boo boo)..
Take my word for it the Dunlop guy was not screwing for your money
when he was trying to make you do the right thing.
Take it from me  a B grade Production Racer if that helps.

Graeme Mc Donough
mcdonoug@mineng.dmpe.csiro.au
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles.racing