HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: tzs@carson.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,alt.folklore.urban,misc.legal
Subject: Re: The amazing disappearing British Constitution
Date: 13 Nov 92 20:45:02 GMT
Organization: University of Washington School of Law, Class of '95

> It should be noted that England is one of the oldest nations on the face of
> the planet,

An amazing number of people seem to be saying that the above statement is
wrong because England is not *the* *oldest* nation.  This is completely
irrelevant to what the above statement says.

You are falling into a trap that my Contracts professor has warned us
about: he has on occasion put questions on the final exam where he gives
an elaborate hypothetical situtaion, and asks the student to analyze it
using the Uniform Commercial Code.  Students go on for several pages
analyzing the most subtle points in terms of the UCC.  However, the
correct answer is "The UCC does not apply to this situation because..."
followed by a sentence or two refering to that part of the UCC that
defines when it is applicable.  In short, no matter how learned your
response is, it better be a response to the question asked!

--Tim Smith
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dmdata@login.dkuug.dk (Kristen Nielsen)
Subject: Penpals for Danish Computer Students.
Organization: DKnet
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:40:39 GMT


All replys to theese persons must be sended to the address: krn@hs.dk
and NOT to the sender address in the message header.
---------


HI THERE! We are a Danish group of 1st year Computer Mechanics
at Soenderborg Technical College who are seeking
someone to write with. All the writing must be in English
'cause this is sort of an English lesson project so we would like
to write with someone outside our country.
We will finish this school period on 13 November so we would like
to hear from you before this date. The next time we have the opportunity
to correspond is at our next school period that will start on 11
January and continue for 10 weeks.
Now follows a short description of the different persons you can write
to:

S0REN SPROG0. I'm seeking someone male or female (or non-human).
I'm 18 years old and my interest are: Computers(off course), reading
English books, music, electronics, Turbo Pascal Programming and
living my life fully. Please write soon...

Hello World! Svend Bergmann, Denmark.
I'm a 18 year old Danish computer-student. I'm interested in an
American (computer)student to exchange PC-software and news with.
Maybe also some kind of USA - Denmark export/import of hardware.

HELLO People.
My name is Jeppe Jakobsen and I'm 19 years old, I'm a Computer Mechanics
student from Denmark. I work at the company called Danfoss. And I'm very
interested to write with other Computer Freaks, Male or female (or other)
from all over the world. my sparetime interest's are mainly Computers
and electronics but i also like to go to Different kinds of parties with
my friends.

DAN MORTENSEN:
I am seeking someone in- or outside Europe to write with.
My interests are : Mainly Computers (PC, Amiga), cycling and reading
(manual's :-) ) ....

HELLO WORLD !!!
My name is Lars, and I am 17 years old. I am a
computer-student at Soenderborg Technical College.
(Denmark). My hobbies is : Music, Squash, Kung-Fu
and Computers. I would like to write with people
in- or outside Europe.

Erik Varn Semey.
I am interrested in writeing with someone from ether Japan, USA or GB.
Personal interrests : Politics, computers, Pc-networks and local radio
stations.

My name is Jesper Stein Jensen, and i am 17 years old.
My interests are computers and windsurfing.

Hello Folks!
My name is Jesper Ladegaard. I'm a computer student. Age 18 years.
Interests: PC, making funny programs in for example Turbo Pascal,
also interested in elektronic.
I'm interested writing with a person, also having my interests.

MORTEN OTZEN SKIBSTED:
I'm 22 years old and I would like to get a pen-pal, preferably from USA or
GB. In my spare time I spend time with my computer, but I also spend some
time keeping my 18-year old car running.

This finishes the list for now....

Kristen Nielsen.
From: rf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Robin Fairbairns)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,uk.politics
Subject: Tory succession (was Re: The Maastricht vote)
Date: 9 Nov 92 12:29:55 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK

In article <1992Nov9.113341.11242@infodev.cam.ac.uk>, gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
|> >If
|> >Major had resigned, the likelihood is that an even worse Tory
|> >would have been put in his place.
|> 
|> I doubt it.  Who?  There's no obvious right-wing candidate.
|> We'd probably have had Kenneth Clarke.  I don't exactly warm
|> to him personally, but I don't think he'd be any worse than
|> Major as PM.

No doubt Clarke would be wonderful.  Particularly when there's
sensitive diplomacy involved.  He has an enviable reputation for
labelling his opponents as idiots.
--
Robin (come back John Drummond) Fairbairns       rf@cl.cam.ac.uk
U of Cambridge Computer Lab, Pembroke St, Cambridge  CB2 3QG, UK
"They had twelve years to lay in wait for us" - Bush supporter on Nov 4
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: gdb15@grebe.cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Subject: Re: Accent and Dialect, the politics there
Reply-To: gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry)
Organization: U of Cambridge Computer Lab, UK
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 19:25:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.160639.7577@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>From: cc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Chris Cooke)
>In article <1992Nov6.100915.2585@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>>
>>   I could say exactly the same about Cockney.
>>
>>And lots of Welsh people could say exactly the same about Welsh.  So?  What's
>>your point?
>
>The usual anti Scotch whingers point. The Scots claim that
>they are discriminated against because their dialect is not
>heard on TV except in comedy. This is likely to be accompanied
>by attacks on the "Southern English". My point is that the
>southern English are treated exactly the same as the Scots -
>when was the last time you heard anything serious on the TV
>discussed in a Cockney or any other real southern accent?

Are we talking about local accents within Scotland, or "educated
Scots" as heard on BBC Scotland (or spoken by John Smith)?  My
experience is that "educated" accents are acceptable from any part of
the country; the main prejudice is against urban accents (e.g. London,
Birmingham, Liverpool, Glasgow).

--
Guy Barry, University of Cambridge | Phone: +44 (0)223 334757 
Computer Laboratory                | Fax: +44 (0)223 334678
New Museums Site, Pembroke Street  | JANET: Guy.Barry@uk.ac.cam.cl 
Cambridge CB2 3QG, England, UK     | Internet: Guy.Barry@cl.cam.ac.uk
From: jmb@ukc.ac.uk (Mike Bremner)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Seebackascopes
Date: 7 Nov 92 15:51:22 GMT
Organization: Institute of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Kent

One of the contestants on "The News Quiz" at lunchtime (Alan Coren?)
made a passing reference to the Seebackascope (the context, relating to
a news item about spies, need not concern us).  I suspect that this
reference may not mean much to younger listeners (or readers), so let me
explain.  The Seebackascope was advertised during the early years of the
New Elizabethan era in the pages of (let us say) the "Eagle" or the
"Meccano Magazine".  It was a device which, when worn on one eye,
enabled the wearer to see what was going on behind his head.  (I use the
term "his" since, in these unenlightened days, the thought that girls
might wish to indulge in this sort of spiffing jape would not have
crossed the advertisers' minds.)

I had a deprived childhood, and did not own one of these marvels.  Nor,
indeed, did any of my friends.  I suspect that the Seebackascope did not
enjoy any great degree of popularity or success.  Is there anyone out
there willing to confess to having possessed one, and to tell us how
effective it was?  How well could you see?  How conspicuous were you?
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: icpa@iat.holonet.net (Tony Rodriguez)
Subject: International Software Jobs
Organization: HoloNet (BBS: 510-704-1058)
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 20:26:49 GMT

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british

In soc.culture.british, pm3_norr@csd.uwe.ac.uk (Paul Norris) writes:
>  gdb15@cl.cam.ac.uk (Guy Barry) writes:
> }Also the famous final "l" is unique to Bristol, as in "operal",
> }"cameral", "primal donnal", and indeed "Bristol" itself.
> No there's an interesting ideal...

Yup. Tis true. This precise piece of mis(?)pronunciation does occur.

I think I'll start saying I work in Bristo/Bristow/Brigstow.
From: tjo@its.bt.co.uk (Tim Oldham)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: VNS: Thu  5-Nov-1992
Keywords: VNS,news
Date: 6 Nov 92 13:06:19 GMT
Organization: BT Group Computing Services, Birmingham, UK

In article <1992Nov5.104332.19196@rdg.dec.com> evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans @ IME) writes:
>	"Remember, remember the 5th of November,
>	 Gunpowder, treason and plot.
>	 I see no reason, why gunpowder treason,
>	 should ever be forgot."  Anon.

My local bonny (Cofton Park, B'ham) had a wonderful fire and an excellent
guy. It made my heart fair swell up with pride to see its face ignite.

You can begin to understand why executions were such an attraction.
Perverse but fascinating.

	Tim. 
-- 
Tim Oldham, BT Group Computing Services.       tjo@its.bt.co.uk
``Sounds good to me''
From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Split soc.culture.british
Date: 14 Nov 92 01:57:44 GMT
Organization: sgi
NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com

In article <1992Nov12.121359.17488@rdg.dec.com>, evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans @ IME) writes:
|> 
|>   Not seriously, although I'd be interested in what sort of splits
|> you had in mind. How about:-
|> 
|> 	soc.culture.british.speech
|> 	soc.culture.british.geography
|> 	soc.culture.british.news
|> 	soc.culture.british.politics
|> 	
|>    and for the occasional spill-over from t.p.g,
|> 
|> 	soc.culture.british.wot.no.guns
|>

I found myself wondering what soc.culture.british.geography
was for.  If it's for "What is the UK, GB etc" then we could
have an FAQ.   I'm sure Mr Pinkerton could provide one.

Here's a couple more suggestions:

	soc.culture.british.history
	soc.culture.british.europe	(maybe that's politics)
	soc.culture.british.constitution	(maybe that's politics, too)
	soc.culture.british.science/education

jon.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.canada
From: userDHAL@ucs.UAlberta.CA (David Halliwell)
Subject: Re: In your school?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:18:25 GMT

godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:
>Oh gee, I'm sorry if my presence in Canada upset you Dave.  It's much better
>not to have people with views that differ from yours littering up the
>country, right?

   I never even noticed you were here at all. And I didn't notice any
change when you left. Discussing differences in views is a worthwhile
endeavour, but you seem to lack the ability to discuss. You have a chip
on your shoulder about this, and arguing with you is pointless.

   However, I can always look upon this as a learning experience. For
example, this exchange has taught me how to use kill files.


Dave Halliwell
Department of Geography
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta
From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Private Uni's
Date: 9 Nov 92 23:45:42 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com


In article <1992Nov9.101148.13305@dcs.qmw.ac.uk>, mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk writes:
> 
> I checked in my Whitaker's Alamanac at the weekend. Dates of
> foundation as universities for Durham, Bath and Bristol were
> 1832, 1966 and 1909 respectively.

That certainly matches what I recall about Durham.

> As for the Scottish ones,
> once again I wrote "English" meaning "English". It is amazing
> how the Scots will whinge if you use it to mean "Scotland" as
> well, but if you use it correctly they'll *still* whinge
> because they won't realise you've used it to deliberately used
> Scotland and can't resist getting in a "you're wrong because in
> Scotland ...".

I think we're into pre-emptive or even recursive whingeing here.

jon.
From: ajw@aus.intel.com (alan waldock)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Just a quick question
Date: 12 Nov 92 18:25:13 GMT
Organization: Architecture & Software Technology Group, Intel Corp.

In article <1992Nov11.144654.24203@pixel.kodak.com> dj@ekcolor.ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones) writes:

>Who will now regale us with the joke that got Max Miller banned by the Beeb?

I dreamed I was crossing a deep chasm on a very narrow log - no room
to turn around, let alone pass anyone. Suddenly, there coming towards
me was this gorgeous girl. When we met in the middle, I didn't know
whether to toss myself off or block her passage.

Now 'ere's a funny thing...

-- Alan Waldock, from but not on behalf of Intel Corporation
   ajw@aus.hf.intel.com       ...uunet!intelhf!aus!ajw
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: frankm@microsoft.com (Frank R.A.J. Maloney)
Subject: Re: Just a quick question
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:15:23 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Windows/DOS Users Ed Group

In article <A.Grant.18.721245531@ucs.cam.ac.uk> A.Grant@ucs.cam.ac.uk (Alasdair Grant) writes:
>In article <BxD4E7.Dtp.1@cs.cmu.edu> nickh@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Haines) writes:
>>It is? In what way is `fuck' euphemistic? I thought it was
>>straight-forward, like `fart' or `shit'.
>
>It stands for "For unnatural carnal knowledge". Like TDA and GBH.

What, TDA stands for "For unnatural carnal knowledge"? How
can that be? And GBH, too? 

Lord love a duck!

-- 
Frank Richard Aloysius Jude Maloney
	"Well, I'm a little muddled." -- Glinda
Xref: sparky soc.culture.british:15185 alt.folklore.urban:27463
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: An astonishing Guy
Date: 5 Nov 92 20:35:43 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

In article <1dad6jINNl0c@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com
(Jon Livesey) writes:
>> Feels like I post this every 6 months or so when some yo-yo bleats on about
>> lack of Bill 'O Rights, Constitution etc. Should be part of the s.c.b FAQ,
>> along with Dan Archer's great aunt's maiden name.
>
>Very few Americnas know that chunks of their own Bill of Rights
>is inspired by, and in some cases quoted from, the English Bill.
>
>Notable exceptions are the gun nuts, who know that it refers to
>a right to bear arms, but who quote it incorrectly, since they 
>miss out the bit about "subject to law".

1. What constitutes a "gun nut".
2. Maybe the English version says "subject to law" but the American
   Bill of Rights does not.

   don
Xref: sparky soc.culture.british:15124 alt.folklore.urban:27409
From: livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: An astonishing Guy
Date: 5 Nov 1992 05:58:43 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.  Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: solntze.wpd.sgi.com


In article <Bx81st.1n0@unixhub.SLAC.Stanford.EDU>, streater@unixjr.SLAC.Stanford.EDU writes:
> In article <lfgdnoINN46@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> linden@positive.Eng.Sun.COM (Trelford Pinkerton) writes:
> > 
> >Sort of makes the dirt of a Presidential election fade by
> >comparison, doesn't it?  That's what you get when you don't have
> >a Bill of Rights.
> > 
> Ah, but that's just it. There *is* an English Bill of Rights. Passed by
> Parliament in 1689 and entitled "An Act Declaring the RIghts and Liberties of
> the Subject and Settling the Succession of the Crown". This was passed after
> the Catholic James II (brother of and successor to Charles II) had done some
> number of things people didn't like, which resulted in his being booted out 
> and WilliamAndMary being asked to reign instead. It forms part of the written
> part of the Constitution.
> 
> Feels like I post this every 6 months or so when some yo-yo bleats on about
> lack of Bill 'O Rights, Constitution etc. Should be part of the s.c.b FAQ,
> along with Dan Archer's great aunt's maiden name.

Very few Americnas know that chunks of their own Bill of Rights
is inspired by, and in some cases quoted from, the English Bill.

Notable exceptions are the gun nuts, who know that it refers to
a right to bear arms, but who quote it incorrectly, since they 
miss out the bit about "subject to law".

jon.
From: sls2c@cc.usu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: help to find BBC world service station.
Date: 9 Nov 92 22:39:01 GMT
Organization: Utah State University


		I'm having difficulties to locate the BBC World service 
program, specially Africa news and north America services, I tried to
get the station numbers and the time from the BBC itself but didn't get respond
	If any know please E-mail to me or if any one have their E-mail 
please E-mali to me also.

		

		Thank you 
		in advance
From: trk@palm15.cray.com (Tim Kirby)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: US/British Citizenship
Date: 11 Nov 92 04:15:36 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]

Walter Rolandi (rolandi@hssc.scarolina.edu) wrote:
: wales@valeria.cs.ucla.edu (Rich Wales) writes:
: 
: >If true, this would represent a major break with earlier US policy ...
: 
: there were at least two situations where this wasn't an issue.  if you come
: by your second nationality either by birth or by marriage.  under such
: circumstances, the state department allows dual citizenship without hassles.

Hmmm. It's sort of "allows by turning a blind eye". My understanding is that
the US citizenship (at least in the case of marriage) still requires the handing
over of the "other" nationality passport after forswearing all others (so to
speak). Certainly in the case of a UK citizen, there is nothing to stop you
from trotting round to the British Embassy and getting another one. I don't know
how it works for someone entitled by birth. Perhaps it matters if you start out
with a US passport with entitlement to another country or vice-versa ... ?

Someone out there must have been through this ...

--
Tim Kirby --------- Cray Research Inc., Eagan, MN, USA ----------- trk@cray.com
(UK citizen enjoying the fruits of taxation without representation ;-) ...
 ... it's easier than trying to find an excuse for whoever gets elected *grin*)
Disclaimer: I disclaim, therefore I am. Cray Research is not responsible for me,
my views or anything I say ............... They do, however, pay my mortgage ;-)
When all else fails, Immortality may always be assured by spectacular error(JKG)
From: mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Accent and Dialect, the politics there
Keywords: Scots, Cockney, Taggart, Eastenders
Date: 9 Nov 92 10:37:02 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept, QMW, University of London, UK.

From: MDuPree@world.std.com (Micky DuPree)
>As for Cockney only being used in comedies, I could have sworn I've
>heard it on a number of crime dramas, and while I've never seen the
>program, surely "Eastenders" features a lot of Cockney.  But correct me
>if I'm wrong.

Yes, it's obviously used to depict people actually living in
London. Eastenders or crime dramas would seem a little strange
if all the characters spoke in upper middle class accents. But
you would not expect to hear a newsreader (even reading London
local news), commentator, documentary presenter etc, speaking
anything remotely resembling Cockney.

Matthew Huntbach
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: jac54@cas.org ()
Subject: Re: Seebackascopes
Organization: Chemical Abstracts Service, Columbus, Ohio
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 17:01:01 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.120938.1788@aber.ac.uk> dpl@aber.ac.uk (David Philip Langstaff) writes:
>
>I was amused by Barry Took's revelation that due to new sex discrimination
>laws, MI6 where looking forward to the employment of Britain's first
>hetereosexual spy.

	Hmmmmmmm... working for which side?

	Alec.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.canada
From: userDHAL@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA (David Halliwell)
Subject: Re: In your school?
Organization: University Of Alberta, Edmonton Canada
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 21:15:46 GMT

livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) writes:


>In article <dhalliwe.721004691@muskwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>, userDHAL@mts.ucs.UAlberta.CA writes:
>> 
>>   [discussion of brits in Canadian universities omitted - DH]

>It's a pity that Mr Godfrey's posting is evoking some responses
>almost as over-generalised.   I suspect this is what he wanted.

   Yes. That is why my first post on the subject stated that my sweeping
generalization deserved the same treatment as Laurence's sweeping
generalization.

   I definitely do not think that Laurence Godfrey's attitudes and
opinions (or capabilities, I presume) are representative of the british
in general. Our department here has several brits that like it here (and
are liked). We also just hired another one away from Cambridge, who will
be a definite plus.


Dave Halliwell
Department of Geography
University of Alberta
Edmonton, Alberta
From: jim@cs.strath.ac.uk (Jim Reid)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: JANET/Internet
Date: 13 Nov 92 11:29:29 GMT
	<92317.155920X68147@BARILVM.BITNET>
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Strathclyde Univ., Glasgow, Scotland.
In-reply-to: X68147@BARILVM.BITNET's message of 13 Nov 92 00:44:20 GMT

In article <92317.155920X68147@BARILVM.BITNET> X68147@BARILVM.BITNET (Danny Rothenberg) writes:

   What I really meant was that is it possible to 'talk' from a 'normal'
   Internet node to somebody on JANET?

No. JANET is an X.25 based network which runs its own bizarre
protocols, known as Coloured Book. [Because each protocol spec has a
different colour of binder - Grey for email, Blue for file transfer
and so on.]

The JANET IP service (JIPS) provides IP connectivity to JANET sites
who want it. This is done by running encapsulating IP datagrams in
X.25 packets (as defined in RFC877). JIPS is proving very popular, but
it has not yet been taken up by all JANET sites. So, if your JANET
contact has access to JIPS, you will be able to use the full range of
Internet services - ftp, telnet, talk, X, etc - to communicate
directly with him/her.

		Jim
From: gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: An astonishing Guy
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:03:05 GMT
Organization: DSC Communications Corp, Plano, TX

In article <1dpe5eINN42j@fido.asd.sgi.com> livesey@solntze.wpd.sgi.com (Jon Livesey) write
s:
>
>You might be thinking of corpus delecti.   The corpus in habeas
>corpus is the corpus of the bod being accused, not the bod that
>got bumped off.    It says that you have to produce the accused
>bod before a magistrate within a certain period of time, or face
>various penalties.    It's a rather complicated and very important
>Act, and well worth the read.
>
>> What's this got to do with fat lords and adjudicators?
>
>Beats me.
>
>jon.

I believe corpus delecti means "body of the crime", material evidence that 
the crime was committed, whatever the type of crime.  In the case of murder 
it usually coincides with a corpse bearing suitable signs of having been 
murdered, but the word corpus doesn't itself mean a cadaver.  I think.

g.p.