From: rats@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (Morris the Cat)
Subject: Re: No charges filed in SWAT killing
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 14:29:12 GMT


In <1992Aug13.133400.12312@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> Pat Weber states:

|Morris said:
|>Like Hell. Do you think that IRA attacks on police stations in Northen
|>Ireland has altered the perception of the government on how easy and
|>painless it is to screw with folks without getting a bit of your own
|>medicine in return? Hell, in LA, police stations became barricaded
|>after the LA riots... damn right they figured for the moment, pissed
|>off people were perfectly willing to attack the government.

|We have no IRA in the US! The pissed off people left no effect
|and did not attack the government, only the local cops.

|You've made an important distinction  - the armed individual
|versus an armed group. As an individual, the cops will bust your door
|down (ala COPS, 911), shoot you and anyone who dares oppose them. They
|use overwhelming force - a standard police tactic - makes you think twice
|about picking up that pistol.

|When guns are banned (I predict), gun owners like you and me will be
|'visited' individually by the BATF and given the 'drug lord/crack house'
|treatment. They'll have news clips of us being arrested, with our
|evil guns displayed on the tables. The public will view us as
|criminals. They DIVIDE & CONQUER - how will your gun ownership
|protect you?

Let's take this argument in terms of practical application.

True enough, there is no IRA _CURRENTLY_ in the US.

True enough, while some people in LA did attack City Hall, they did
attack at most local cops.

On the plus side, ordinary people acting _IN_CONCERT_ certainly have
the power to bring down the police in ANY metropolitan area of the
USA, even NY City.

Can it be done through non-violence? Possibly.

Can it be done through a campaign of violence directed against government
officials, and those that claim to serve the Constitution by "following
orders?" I say _YES_.

The question becomes of EACH person that is concerned about their RKBA
after a gun ban: "will _I_ have the gumption to lift arms up against
my elected officials and the so-called 'peace officers' who are enforcing
unconstitutional laws?"

If the answer is _YES_, your second question is: "can I raise a fighting
cell of, say, three people, armed with a sniper rifle, an "assault weapon,"
as well as handguns and explosives and booby traps?"

[I contend that very small cells acting independently or in concert
with other cells are practically impossible for the government to
stop via the collection of intelligence data.]

IF the answer is yes to those questions, and if only a couple percent
of people concerned with their RKBA did that in each city, you would
have as a practical matter wiped out all the police, and all the public
officials, at which point martial law would have been declared, and
all bets are off as to who will control the destiny of the nation.

So the basic question is: are they enough John De Armonds in the US
to raise fighting cells to engage in battle a government committed
to forcible and illegal disarmament of the Citizenry?

That's a question each individual will have to decide for themselves
if and when a gun ban is implemented in the US.
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