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From: ak331@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jerry A. Jelinek)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: ..and...lift & turn & pivot & belch...and...l
Date: 6 Jan 1993 19:10:50 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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>I think my days of really whipping the ball and cranking the hell
>out of it are about over...my arm just can't take THAT anymore. 
>.........
>I'm baffled..maybe an exotic drilling technique on a Purple RP might
>do the trick...then maybe again, maybe I'll just take up duck hunting...
>
>suggestions?
 
Ah yes, they always go back to the basics.  As for me I never did quit
figure out how to tear the tendins in my arm, maybe next year.
 
Well here is my two cents worth on the success I have had with "exotic"
drillings.  Now be warned I'm no expert on drilling, but I have almost all
my equipment drillied with leverage weight.  I'm a stroker who relies on
accuracy and making spares.  My Blue Nitro and recently my Black Turbo (the
new one) have worked well.  Last year the Blue Nitro was all I used.  The
ball has a nice gradual break without the over reaction on the back end.
But I do know that I can use it on dry lanes when the crankers and tweeners
can't.  The Nitro hits hard and as long as you can keep it in the pocket,
it will score.
 
My Purple Haze is leveraged, but has been delegated to spare shooting only.
The ball goes very long and hits like a dead Brunswick Mineralite.  But if
you want to leave TONS of ten pins, this is the ball for you.
 
The Black Turbo I have is leveraged with small (can't remember the amount) of
finger weight.  It doesn't roll early like the Blue Nitro, but flips really
hard at the back end.  I have to use this on lanes with med-heavy oil in the
heads and fairly dry back end.  If carry down occurs I switch to Blue Nitro
or move outside.
 
On some conditions I use a leveraged weighted Blue Track Enforcer.  This
ball goes really long and flips (provided I have a dry back end).  With
long oil I leave it in the bag.
 
The only ball I use which isn't leverage weighted is my Blue Turbo.  It hooks
a little more than my Yellow Dot, but hits harder.  This is the only ball
I bowled a 300 with.
 
I won a T-Shark in league but haven't gotten it yet.  When I do I'm going
to drill it straight up (aka no leverage) with some finger weight.  No one
seems to use it, so I'm skeptical of its potential.  Does anyone out there
have experience with this ball?
 
Well thats my two cents worth.  Also I read from a recent post that some
of you enjoy "fly fishing" and that the best place for it is in Colorado.
I was wondering what you guys do with the flys once you catch them, and why
is Colorado so great?  Around Cleveland, just leave a old apple on the 
porch during July and watch the flys come running.
 
 
 
 
Jerry
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From: fleck@col.hp.com (Dave Fleck)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: FBL => Announcement....
Date: 6 Jan 1993 20:19:46 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division
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aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org> writes:
> In article <1if7fsINNf0@hp-col.col.hp.com> Dave Fleck, fleck@col.hp.com
> writes:
> 
> P.S.  you'll have to get a bigger cooler tho...what the HECK can
> anyone hold in such a small thing?  What maybe 4, 5 cases
> of beer?  Sheesh...I have more than that rolling around on my
> floorboard... ;-) ...

Oh... your forgeting the side weight... if you stack'um on their sides 
you can get at least 6 maybe 7 cases in it....  of course I only buy
Grolsch in the can (best beer you can buy in a can) for the trips...

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From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: FBL => Announcement....
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In article <1if3v3INNrop@hp-col.col.hp.com> Dave Fleck, fleck@col.hp.com
writes:
>me when the time comes...
>If anyone likes to fly fish and wants to come to Colorado... You have
>a experienced guide to contact!!
>
>Dave "I can't wait till March" Fleck


Well, DAMN Dave!  Congratulations!  That sounds like it would be ALOT
more fun than working in a "real" job!  Sheesh...hey wanna become
a hunting guide too?  The you and me could go up into the hills and
hunt for WILD BOWLING BALLS!  You know...the Sumo, the Ninja, the Rhino
and it's more experienced more elusive brother, the Rhino-Pro,  can't
forget the BEAST...man there's some good ball huntin' in dem thair hills!

Seriously, Colorado has some of the BEST stream fishing in the U.S.
(IMHO, which is good nuff for me).  I remember fishing rainbow trout
many a day near Cripple Creek and Pikes Peak.....ahhh.....fishing rod in
one hand and a cool can of Colorado Golden Flow in the other.....

8-p



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Aki Damme                    "How come the best ball
The World Bank               for me is ALWAYS the
Washington D.C.              one I didn't bring, or the
PBA #2294                    one I don't own?"
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--> All usual disclaimers about my employer and my wife apply  <--
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From: king@ssvax.gte.com (Larry King)
Subject: Re: alt.sport.bowling LIVES!
Organization: GTE/SCSD
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 13:09:57 GMT

Mark K. Miller (MAX@psuvm.psu.edu) wrote:
: In article <1993Jan5.201408.14982@worldbank.org>, aki
: <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org> says:
: >
: >a.  a torn rotator cuff in my right shoulder
: >b.  6 torn muscles in my right forearm.
: >c.  tennis elbow in my right elbow.
: >d.  a pulled tendon in my right ring finger.
: 
: The National Star has provided me with huge piles of money to share my
: 1993 predictions in their publication.  I have a few "leftover" predictions
: that the Star deemed "uninteresting" to the general public.  One on my
: predictions that the Star did not publish is that Aki Damme will become a
: lefthanded bowler in 1993.

Aki,

	Take it from me, it's a piece of cake.  I almost have my
average up to 175 on my Monday night league and my FBL average is over
180.  This is just with 7 months of bowling lefty.  Honestly though it
sounds like you are ripping your arm apart.  Hope you find the release
you like soon before you throw a shot and wonder where your thumb went.
I know how difficult it is to take time away from something you REALLY,
REALLY want to do but there may come a point where you have to say..
"Aki, does a few weeks away from bowling give me a chance to heal and
maybe keep me going longer"  If the answer is yes, take the time off.
If the answer is no, keep going but don't shoot over 641 when you bowl
team one in the FBL.  Cya...

Larry
 
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From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: ..and...lift & turn & pivot & belch...and...lift & turn & pivot &.....
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X-Xxdate: Wed, 6 Jan 93 14:36:33 GMT
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:39:25 GMT




Ok ok...I've decided that my bowling problems are DEFINATELY being
caused by my current bowling equipment.  So...I'm going to buy
a new ball (don't tell my wife!!!! =8-O  )...

Since most of you already know about the wonderful condition
of my right arm, I'll spare everyone the details of my suffering.

What I'm really looking for is a ball that will break early, and
hold it's track into the pocket.  I really don't want a radical
break on the back end nor something that will be impossible to
handle on dry conditions.

I think my days of really whipping the ball and cranking the hell
out of it are about over...my arm just can't take THAT anymore.  So...

I was thinking about a Purple RhinoPro but it's a reactive shell
and as anyone who's purchased a reactive shell knows, they can
be pretty sticky on dry back ends (which is pretty normal 'round
this area).  I had thought about a blue hammer but I was thinking
of something alittle newer on the technological front (if you know
what I mean)...

I'm baffled..maybe an exotic drilling technique on a Purple RP might
do the trick...then maybe again, maybe I'll just take up duck hunting...


suggestions?



*************************************************************
Aki Damme                    "How come the best ball
The World Bank             for me is ALWAYS the
Washington D.C.              one I didn't bring, or the
PBA #2294                    one I don't own?"
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--> All usual disclaimers about my employer and my wife apply  <--
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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 09:55:15 EST
From: Mark K. Miller <MAX@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: ..and...lift & turn & pivot & belch...and...lift & turn & pivot &.

In article <1993Jan6.143925.25312@worldbank.org>, aki
<aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org> says:
>
>I'm baffled..maybe an exotic drilling technique on a Purple RP might
>do the trick...then maybe again, maybe I'll just take up duck hunting...
>
>
>suggestions?

Get the Ithica Model 17 featherlight pump!  Mine's a 16 guage; I just
love it.  Nice long barrel for those high altitude shots, smooth
action, easily manageable recoil; who could ask for more?  If you really
insist on the exotic drilling you could even get the barrel ported.  Heck,
with equipment like this you won't even need to make the ultimate decision
about which sport before making a purchase.  Once you settle on one sport
or the other, just get the shells with the appropriate shots and loads
and off you go ready to knock things down.  Hope this helps.
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From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: alt.sport.bowling LIVES!
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X-Xxdate: Tue, 5 Jan 93 21:36:10 GMT
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Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:39:00 GMT



In article <JNKST41.117.0@VM1.CIS.PITT.EDU> Walter Perz,
JNKST41@VM1.CIS.PITT.EDU writes:
>Very happy that his team took first place after being _far_ behind 
>just before Thanksgiving I am,


Huh? wha?  Whos team took first place?  Not us..in the FBL?

Am I missing something?  Damn!  I GOTTA	start drinking
soda water at parties....



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Aki Damme                                        "How come the best ball
The World Bank                                  for me is ALWAYS the
Washington D.C.                                  one I didn't bring, or
the
PBA #2294                                         one I don't own?"
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--> All usual disclaimers about my employer and my wife apply  <--
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From: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com (Bob Ashley)
Subject: PBA and New RhinoPro ...
Reply-To: ashley@oasis.gtefsd.com
Organization: GTE Federal Systems Division
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:36:16 GMT


In article 25253@worldbank.org,  aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org> writes:
>
>
>Did anyone see the AC-Delco Classic last weekend?  Did anyone notice
>that it was obvious that Brunswick paid the finalists to wear
>RhinoPro shirts and use the new RhinoPro Teal and Blue balls?

Oh, yeah, right ... sure, Aki, rub it in ... I live in Media General Cable
land, where the ABC affiliate is locked into Atlantic Coast Conference hoops
from now until the end of time ...

>They didn't seem to do well with them either.  Don't know if it was
>just the lane conditions or not, but I was not impressed with the
>way the Teal reacted on the backends.
>
>Also the Teal has got to be one of the butt-ugliest balls Brunswick
>has come out with in years!  Yeeech!....

Anyone else out here in Northern Virginia getting sick of this shit?
Hey, Bill, any thoughts?  Has either of the local associations been able
to get one of the independent stations (Chs. 20 or 50) to cover these events?
It'd sure be nice to actually watch what's happening ... *sigh*

>BTW...thanks to everyone on their suggestions on a new ball...there
>was an overwhelming number of you that suggested the RhinoPro Purple.
>I went ahead and got one and had it drilled out 1/2 oz finger and 1/2 oz
>side weight, finger inserts and 1/16" positive thumb pitch....
>I love it!  first three sets...641, 676, 621....

Aki's birthday gift ... yeah, thank goodness we were not bowling his team
last week ...

>In fact, I've probably bowled about eightor nine sets with that ball
>since last Thursday (when I bought it) and I don't think I've bowled
>below six with it yet!...

... <gloat> <gloat> <gloat> ...   :-)

>Oh well, Have to use it tonight in league..wish me luck.. ;-)
>
>
>Regards,
>
>
>
>*************************************************************
>Aki Damme                    "How come the best ball
>The World Bank                for me is ALWAYS the
>Washington D.C.               one I didn't bring, or the
>PBA #2294                     one I don't own?"
>*************************************************************
>All usual disclaimers about my employer and my wife apply 
>*************************************************************

... but does your wife know about these disclaimers?   :-)


Bob - I hate freezing rain   :-(

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From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: alt.sport.bowling LIVES!
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X-Xxdate: Wed, 6 Jan 93 14:09:28 GMT
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 14:12:23 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.130957.488@europa.asd.contel.com> Larry King,
king@ssvax.gte.com writes:
>	Take it from me, it's a piece of cake.  I almost have my
>average up to 175 on my Monday night league and my FBL average is over
>180.  This is just with 7 months of bowling lefty.  Honestly though it
>sounds like you are ripping your arm apart.  Hope you find the release
>you like soon before you throw a shot and wonder where your thumb went.
>I know how difficult it is to take time away from something you REALLY,
>REALLY want to do but there may come a point where you have to say..
>"Aki, does a few weeks away from bowling give me a chance to heal and
>maybe keep me going longer"  If the answer is yes, take the time off.
>If the answer is no, keep going but don't shoot over 641 when you bowl
>team one in the FBL.  Cya...


I guess the whole idea I originally had (and hence pulled the tendon in
my ring finger) was to find a release that would put less pressure on 
my arm...less crank, alittle more lift and a nice an easy, gradual
hook into the pocket.  Well, I FOUND that, but in the process of
trying out different releases, I also found out JUST HOW MUCH PAIN
I CAN ENDURE.  I agree tho, if I mess my arm up any more, I'm going
to have to take off from bowling for a few weeks.  I'm hoping that I
can just make it until the summer then take the summer off (ok maybe
ONE summer scratch league, just to keep in practice, BUT THAT'S ALL!).

It's amazing how much DARVOSET and TYLENOL3 can really numb the
pain tho....toss in a couple of brewskis and WOW! I just bowled a 139?
WHO CARES! HAHAHAHAHAHA....

never mind, ignore that...just took a trip to the Bahamas...just for a
second...



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Aki Damme                                        "How come the best ball
The World Bank                                  for me is ALWAYS the
Washington D.C.                                  one I didn't bring, or
the
PBA #2294                                         one I don't own?"
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--> All usual disclaimers about my employer and my wife apply  <--
*****************************************************
From: fogelinc@nmr1.Cyanamid.COM (Carl Fogelin)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: PBA techniques
Date: 6 Jan 1993 23:02:40 GMT
Organization: American Cyanamid Company
Distribution: world
Reply-To: fogelinc@nmr1.Cyanamid.COM
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There's a fellow I know in the PBA who owns 6 blue Nitro balls, all cut
a little differently.  He picks the ball that is appropriate to the condi-
tions and knows how each differ from each other so he can adjust.  I've
never heard of this approach before, have you?

Also, there's another PBA fellow I met in an alley over the summer who
showed me a ball I've never even heard of before: a Brown Hammer.  Any
one know anthing about that ball?

Carl
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From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: ..and...lift & turn & pivot & belch...and...l
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Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 19:53:44 GMT

In article <1ifarqINN8v7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> Jerry A. Jelinek,
ak331@cleveland.Freenet.Edu writes:
>Well thats my two cents worth.  Also I read from a recent post that some
>of you enjoy "fly fishing" and that the best place for it is in Colorado.
>I was wondering what you guys do with the flys once you catch them, and
why
>is Colorado so great?  Around Cleveland, just leave a old apple on the 
>porch during July and watch the flys come running.
> 


thank you for your most insightful dissertation on different reactions
.vs. drilling technique.  Congratuations, your post has been included in
the upcoming a.s.b. FAQ...

OBTW....we don't catch "flies" silly, we are talking about
"flys"...personnally
I really enjoy the double toothed ones with the brass teeth, double
re-enforced
stitching...you know, the ones that are on womens jeans.....but boy can
them
suckers run!.... ;-) ..  yessiree....Colorado has some of the best flys
around.....



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Aki Damme                    "How come the best ball
The World Bank                for me is ALWAYS the
Washington D.C.               one I didn't bring, or the
PBA #2294                     one I don't own?"
*************************************************************
All usual disclaimers about my employer and my wife apply 
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From: fogelinc@nmr1.Cyanamid.COM (Carl Fogelin)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: First leagues of the year
Date: 8 Jan 1993 17:58:14 GMT
Organization: American Cyanamid Company
Distribution: world
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Well, last night I had my first leagues of 1993... Sigh...

It's a good thing that your performance from one league does not count in the
next.  I subbed into a handicap league prior to my scratch league (both
in the same house, different set of lanes.)  BTW: my sanction avereage is 172.

First league:  137 (ouch), 131 (OUCH), and a 117 (I'm going home!)

			... 40 minute gap ...

Second league: 158(Hmmph), 191 (that's better), 193 (yah), and a 180 (not bad)

What a night.  BTW: No one on my team in the first league was bowling well, but
my scratch league is one on one.  I guess I perform according to the degree of
competition.  Still, not very satisfying.

Carl 
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From: L621035@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM
Subject: Adjusting??? What that is???
Organization: Lockheed Missiles & Space Company, Inc.
Date: Wed, 06 Jan 93 16:18:18 PST

  I am currently bowling in a league that scheduled  15 minutes after the lanes
are soaked with oil.  Before 5pm, I have some really good (for me) games, but,
after 5pm, I get to put into practise, the art of adjusting.  Since I have a
relatively low average anyway, it can't hurt my game to move 5 boards here, &
10 boards there, an arrow over there, or maybe use that whiter board between
the 2nd & 3rd arrows?  It might take 1.8 games to finally find a nice track,
in those 3" oil waves...but it happens eventually...  I have noticed that in
heavy oil, I get better pin action, when I go "brooklyn", & I get a whole
$#!+load of "pocket splits" when I get it in the pocket. :-{{{  Sometimes
through the nose works for me, as long as I had a strong follow through (I
know if I didn't when the "tricky Dick" appears)  The whole key is to
Stay Calm (beer helps...unless you drink to many...there's a difference be-
tween calm & careless.  Really, Aki!)
  I was a bitcher about the oily lanes, but I guess that if I ever get good
on those, I might be good just about anywhere else?
  Pamela
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