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From: fenris@cibbs.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Re: Sources              
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 22:04:15 EST
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 -=> Quoting Larry Autry to All <=-

 LA> Is there an archive of source?  Specifically, I am looking for the
 LA> basic language source for an advanced (HP-ish) calculator program.

Look for a series of files called QB*.ZIP which purport to contain source
code from a magazine, one of them includes a very neat calculator with
source. The only problem is that to compile you must have Cresent Software's
PDQ package.

If you can't find them in your area, call 416-538-7911 (14400V42) and logon
as guest. Look in the file area called "The Mad Hatter's Quick Basic
Collection"

BTW, I am also known as "The Mad Hatter"

Fenris



... It took them 3 tries to get it right. C, just say no!
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Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: "andrew comello" <andrew.comello@canrem.com>
Subject: help with rpg in qb 4.5!!
Reply-To: "andrew comello" <andrew.comello@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 23 Dec 92 20:24:36 EST


Hello Everyone:


   My friends and I have been working on a Role-Playing-Game (RPG)
   for the past month and a half... We've run into 4 problems:


   1. We decied to use screen 12 for the high resolution but we
      NEED 256 colours! At first we tried to use the palette
      statement to obtain the colours we desired but evertime we
      change one of the colours, it changes the associated colour
      on the screen! eg: I made colour 5 become shade 64 with the
      palette staement... now if I change colour 5 to a different
      shade, anything that colour 5 was, changes!!!!! Is there
      anyway to get more colours in screen 12????


   2. I need to heavily illustrate small sections of the screen. I
      first tried making small *.PCX files and loading them with
      the pcx file loader for QB that I got from CRS. We found it
      too slow and not worth it. I made in Windows 3.1 great *.ICO
      files that were just the right size and only 16 colours. I
      need to know if anyone out there has some code that would
      load and display *.ICO file in QB.


   3. Is there anyway to fade the screen in ANY mode to/from black?


   4. I have a Soundbalster Pro and I have some great *.MOD and
      *.VOC files that would go great with the game. Does anyone
      have a program that would play the types of files (even
      *.ROL, *.MID or *.WAV would do) in QB??????


ANY help no mater how small would be GREATLY appreciated....

PS: We're DESPARATE!!!
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Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
From: wolvy@netcom.com (Wolverine)
Subject: Re: Qbasic, getting 132 columns
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 04:28:11 GMT

jarnold@tixel.mv.com (Jon Arnold) writes:

>You want 132 column mode on your screen or on printed output?  For printed
>output, that would normally be a function of the specific printer you
>are using, where you would send it a command string (ie, "ESC"+"[2z")
>or something equally arcane to tell the printer to go into 132 column mode.
>Check your printer reference manual.

>Jon Arnold                        Phone: W: 603-883-1233
>Nashua, New Hampshire             Fax:   W: 603-883-7350
>                                         H: 603-883-6371

>      "If you ain't the lead dog, the view never changes."

I guess I'll have to re-read the original message but I thought I stated
that I was writing a program and needed 132 columns to support the bigger
maximum comment limit in 4dos.  Guess I worded it wrong. :)
um I still need to find out how to get 132 columns on the screen, but
width goes to 80 when dealing with the screen, and there are no screen
modes out there that support it.  I can do it at dos, but not in the
Qbasic environment.  In all actuality, I have bypassed this problem
by fixing my program to edit each individual comments in a 
windows-like line editor.  It works good, but it would be REAL nice if I
can get a library to support 132 column mode in whatever lines possible!:)
By looking into these discussions about powerbasic, I am IMPRESSED!

can you easily port over your qbasic 4.5 programs into it?  I captured
that big list and will read it later, so maybe my question's already
been answered. :}

Anyways, thanx again.
Wolvy @ netcom.com
From: richard.vannoy@filebank.cts.com (Richard Vannoy) 
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Advice on SUB and FUNCTIO
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:46:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The File Bank BBS - Fallbrook, CA  619-728-4318
Reply-To: richard.vannoy@filebank.cts.com (Richard Vannoy) 

GY>    1.   Compile a list of all FUNCTIONS and SUBROUTINES called in
GY>         the programs.
GY>    2.   Compile a list of all FUNCTIONS and SUBROUTINES declared in
GY>         the programs.

I did something similar once.  This type of program would
compile all files, one by one, into a master text or random
access file which could then be sorted by function, program,
etc.

Since there are so many ways to do this, like reading in all
the .BAS file names automatically and such improvements, I'll
use abbreviated or pseudo code.

DO
   OPEN "WHATEVER" FOR RANDOM (OR OUTPUT) AS #2
   INPUT "Enter the file name ";filname$
   IF filename$ = "" THEN CLOSE & END program
   OPEN filname$ FOR INPUT AS #1
   DO
       LINE INPUT #1,l$
       IF LEFT$(l$,8) = "DECLARE "
          OR LEFT$(l$,4) = "SUB "
          OR LEFT$(l$,9) = "FUNCTION " THEN
             PRINT #2, filename$ + " " + l$
             'Write it out to the data file, keeping
             'the original file name with it
   LOOP WHILE NOT EOF(1)
LOOP UNTIL forever

Once you get all the DECLARE, SUB and FUNCTION lines in one
place, along with the original files they came from, you can
check, manipulate and cross reference just about any way you
want.
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From: fenris@cibbs.UUCP
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Re: Microsoft basic & new
Date: Fri, 01 Jan 93 22:04:24 EST
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 -=> Quoting John Villalovos to All <=-

 JV> Any one else out there notice that since December 1st Microsoft does
 JV> not offer free support anymore for their BASIC products (at least PDS).
 JV> Now you have to call either a 900 number, 800 number with credit card,
 JV> CI$, or Genie. 
 JV> They don't seem to do this with programs like Excel.

 JV> I wonder if they do it with their C compliler.  Probably not since
 JV> Borland competes with them in that language.  But since MS is around
 JV> the only one who does BASIC and controls most of the market I guess
 JV> they think that they can force people to pay for support.  I asked them
 JV> if they supported the Internet and the said no.

Well, they still offer free support in Canada...

Fenris



... Old X-Men never die; they just get more expensive.
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From: maurice.dion@synapse.org (Maurice Dion) 
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: music in basic
Date: 26 Dec 92 15:06:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: SYNAPSE BBS - GATINEAU, QUEBEC - 819-561-4321
Reply-To: maurice.dion@synapse.org (Maurice Dion) 

TO:Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
FROM: maurice.dion.@synapse.org


G}If there are any suggestions regarding simple music programs I would
 }appreciate it.  I know of Cubase, but it is a little more than I
 }needs and cost about $300.



Since my last message I found another version of ANSIPLAY under the file
name APLUS203 you may get it locally. I know you ask me the last time
where you could get this file and I could not find it in the local BBS
Synapse located in Gatineau Quebec, however the Sysop advised me of the
new version.
The author is:Julie M. Ibarra
              P.O. Box 710727
              Santee, CA 92072-0727
              U.S.A.
Hope this helps.

I have to apologize, the above information which I already U/L is
incorrect, in as far as the new program. The author of the original
program that I suggested(ANSIPL20.ZIP) is as quoted above. Sorry for the
error, I should not take for granted that Sysops are infallible.


. 41-4341 OLX3 . Moe from Ottawa, where many problems are created,
        prepared this message at  15:02:47 hrs  on  12/26/92.
From: richard.vannoy@filebank.cts.com (Richard Vannoy) 
Newsgroups: alt.lang.basic
Subject: Power BASIC
Date: 22 Dec 92 21:46:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The File Bank BBS - Fallbrook, CA  619-728-4318
Reply-To: richard.vannoy@filebank.cts.com (Richard Vannoy) 

JH> I`d still like to hear from anyone using the product (not
JH> necessarily version 3.0).                                              

I used PB 2.0 and QB 4.5 side-by-side for about four months,
comparing, and asking questions.  My much abbreviated summary,
leading to my choosing QB/PDS, was that:

    PB was a better product with poor support.

    QB had a well established, national network of support on
    all the major nets.

or

Programming alone on a desert island?  Pick PB!

Wanna find a programmer to talk to now and then?  Get QB!
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From: greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Flyfishing stuff wanted....
Date: 1 Jan 1993 11:34:07 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: greg@antizen.EBay.Sun.COM
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Hey y'all...

Anyone have any used flyfishing equipment they wish to sell?

Greg
Organization: Middle East Technical University - Computer Center
Date: Monday, 21 Dec 1992 12:12:35 TUR
From: <E69386@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject:    new year

Happy New Year And Merry Christmas|   TO ALL ANGLERS|
                                       GIZMO E-mail:e69386@trmetu.bitnet
*******************************************************************************
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From: arnold@violet.berkeley.edu (John Arnold)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: US equivalent of UK's "Trout & Salmon"
Followup-To: alt.fishing
Date: 28 Dec 1992 23:44:34 GMT
Organization: UC Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: lat1mac29.cchem.berkeley.edu

I guess the title says it all.  Could anyone tell me the name of the widest
read fishing magazine in the US.  (This is for my Dad who fishes for trout
and salmon in England and Scotland primarily, but who may come and visit
me, hence the interest in fishing here).  Thanks for any info.
Xref: sparky alt.fishing:3215 rec.outdoors.fishing:1542
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Planted vs. natives
From: kenealy_d@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 29 Dec 1992 07:01:35 GMT
Reply-To: kenealy_d@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

>Good question (I dunno).   Seems like there are several major variables
>with many possible outcomes:
>


Now THAT is an answer!
I recently saw a documentary on the declining gene pool of North american trout
and salmon. Are the species under genetic threat?

David Kenealy - from New Zealand

Newsgroups: alt.fishing,rec.outdoors.fishing
From: funky@nevada.edu (MATTHEW KAPHAN)
Subject: Planted vs. natives
Originator: funky@redrock.nevada.edu
Organization: University of Nevada System Computing Services
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 07:02:26 GMT

I have a quick question.  It's not really overly important to life, but it's
been bugging me.  If a trout is planted, and then spawns, is it's offsprings
now considered natives or are they considered planted?  Thanks.

Soon to be a flyfisher,

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From: johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: Re: US equivalent of UK's "Trout & Salmon"
Date: 29 Dec 92 01:22:15 GMT
Organization: Auspex Systems, Inc.

In article <arnold-281292154008@lat1mac29.cchem.berkeley.edu> arnold@violet.berkeley.edu (John Arnold) writes:
|I guess the title says it all.  Could anyone tell me the name of the widest
|read fishing magazine in the US.  (This is for my Dad who fishes for trout
|and salmon in England and Scotland primarily, but who may come and visit
|me, hence the interest in fishing here).  Thanks for any info.

How about "Trout, Salmon and Steelhead" (or in some similar order)?  It's
actually a pretty good magazine.  The Flyfishing digest seemed to indicate
that "American Angler" was the consensus favorite magazine for flyfishermen.
T,S & S focuses on the type of fish more that the technique used to take them.

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| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing,rec.outdoors.fishing
From: hz06807@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Hasan Zuhtu Ozmen)
Subject: Jr.2000 FISHING TAKLE FOR SALE
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 16:31:33 GMT


I have a Jr.2000 brand fishing tackle (the rod, line, hooks and reel)           for $ 12.00. I only used several times.
New one is over $ 20.00. 

	If seriously interested please e-mail or call Hasan 
	   
	   217-244-8196 or 217-398-0745
	   The price is firm.
	   Thanx.
Xref: sparky alt.fishing:3218 rec.outdoors.fishing:1549
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Planted vs. natives
From: kenealy_d@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Date: 30 Dec 1992 00:52:32 GMT
Reply-To: kenealy_d@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz
Organization: Wellington City Council (Public Access), Wgtn, Nz
NNTP-Posting-Host: kosmos.wcc.govt.nz

In article <C012uE.J18@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor) writes:
>tomg@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Thomas J. Gilg) writes:
>
>The feds along with a bunch of enviornfreaks seem determined to make the
>lake trout the ONLY preditor fish in the great lakes and eliminate all the
>non-indigineous species like browns, steelhead, and of course those bad
>salmon. 

Interestingly in New Zealand we have exactly the opposite problem. NZ has very
few freshwater native predators and the introduced trout have done very well.
Recent moves to introduce "coarse" fish such as perch and catfish have been
vigorously opposed by recreational groups because they might compete with the
trout. 

Recently the Govt introduced recreational fishing quotas to combat
poaching of comercial species of sea fish. Originally they put the bag limit at
5 of any species but the thought of arresting any child with more than 5
bullies (tiny fish) in their possesion got the public a bit peeved.

We are also up against the privatisation of water rights as part of Govt plans
to sell off the power generation system. At the moment NZ'ers have right of
access to "the Queen's Chain" a strip of land around all major waterways and
lakes and the majority of lakes and rivers are public property.

Management of the trout fisheries is controlled by "acclimatisation societies",
wholey funded from license fees for trout fishing (about nz$55 per year). This
keeps them a little removed from the Govt. 

Gone are the days when you went fishing to escape from politics!

-David Kenealy-
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: marv.bloom@rose.com (marv bloom)
Subject: magazines
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 07:03:58 GMT
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Date Entered: 12-29-92 01:54
A :From: arnold@violet.berkeley.edu (John Arnold)
A :I guess the title says it all.  Could anyone tell me the name of the widest
A :read fishing magazine in the US.  (This is for my Dad who fishes for trout
A :and salmon in England and Scotland primarily, but who may come and visit
A :me, hence the interest in fishing here).  Thanks for any info.

 I'd take a guess and say IN-Fisherman.
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Date: Monday, 28 Dec 1992 11:32:00 TUR
From: <E69386@TRMETU.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.fishing
Subject: baracuda

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If you have any information about habitats of
this fish,please call me....
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Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: eng10189@nusunix1.nus.sg (RIZAL BIN SIAM)
Subject: Re: Sonar Wanted
Organization: National University of Singapore
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Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 05:33:47 GMT

Newsgroups: alt.fishing
From: marv.bloom@rose.com (marv bloom)
Subject: Sonar, etc.,
Organization: Rose Media Inc, Toronto, Ontario.
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 04:34:26 GMT
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Date Entered: 12-22-92 23:31
R(:From: rpark@stam.QE.Bell.CA (Richard Park)

R(:I consider fish-finders useful. I don't own one personally but have used
R(:them for certain types of fishing. I am planning to purchase one in the
R(:near future. One of the reasons is that on certain lakes that I am trolling
R(:I am suceptable to snaggs and these lures fetch a hefty price nowadays.
R(:Another reason is that salmon and trout on large lakes are at a certain
R(:depth of water (suspended) and god knows that I'd be dragging my lure
R(:across "dead water" depths. However, marking fish does not mean you will 
R(:catch them. We were marking 50 fish a minute all day long but did not
R(:catch a single thing and there has been times when we would get hits 
R(:without marking anything. I find fish-finders useful for fishing at the
R(:best depth possible. Without it I would be lost.

 I'm by NO means an Expert Fisherman but Sonar is a tool and it takes 
experience and knowledge to make use of said devices. For shallow 
water APPS, one is looking for structure (drop offs, mid-lake humps 
etc) for BIG Water applications (I fish for Salmon/Rainbows and (ECHH) 
Lakers on Lake Ontario).
 
 Suspended fish are inactive (Marking them BIG HOOKS sitting on bottom 
 more or less informs the intelligent fisherman to head into port and 
uncap a Brew or two and think about the next day...;-) ).
 
 When "working" big water, we're looking for schools of baitfish since 
Salmon won't be too far away. Rather than looking for big inverted 
V's, would rather see horizontal "-"'s as these are Feeding Salmon (we 
call these echoes "streakers"). It's quite common to not "mark" a 
thing and have one's rod release and the drag SCREAM as yards of line 
are peeled off.
 
 Said schools of baitfish are in the thermocline and that's exactly 
the area that we're trying to present our lures and work. I've had 
rainbows hit the lure while it was in the propwash (as I was spooling 
out), so Go Figure..............
(Lake Ontario 'bows go up to 25lbs)
 
 Not a definitive answer but in this Hobby, there isn't one.
 
 Season's Greetings to All Net<Fishermen> and Please Practise
CATCH & RELEASE. The Future of our Fisheries depends on that.
 
   Marv

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From: rpark@stam.QE.Bell.CA (Richard Park)
Subject: Re: Fish-finders
Reply-To: rpark@stam.bell.ca
Organization: CER, Bell Canada
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 18:21:41 GMT

I consider fish-finders useful. I don't own one personally but have used
them for certain types of fishing. I am planning to purchase one in the
near future. One of the reasons is that on certain lakes that I am trolling
I am suceptable to snaggs and these lures fetch a hefty price nowadays.
Another reason is that salmon and trout on large lakes are at a certain
depth of water (suspended) and god knows that I'd be dragging my lure
across "dead water" depths. However, marking fish does not mean you will 
catch them. We were marking 50 fish a minute all day long but did not
catch a single thing and there has been times when we would get hits 
without marking anything. I find fish-finders useful for fishing at the
best depth possible. Without it I would be lost.
-- 
Richard Park	
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From: tomg@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE (Thomas J. Gilg)
Newsgroups: alt.fishing,rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Planted vs. natives
Date: 28 Dec 92 22:38:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: hpcvusn.1992Dec28.223858.26469
Followup-To: alt.fishing,rec.outdoors.fishing
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> If a trout is planted, and then spawns, is it's offsprings now
> considered natives or are they considered planted?  Thanks.

Good question (I dunno).   Seems like there are several major variables
with many possible outcomes:

     Genetic Source for Stock |     Method of subsequent reproduction
     -------------------------|--------------------------------------------
                              |       Hatchery               Natural
     -------------------------| --------------------   --------------------
          recently introduced |      hatchery               hatchery ?
                              |
        long ago introduction |      hatchery                 wild
                              |
          historic indigenous |  native & hatchery ?         native

I think of "native" as the genetic strain that historically populated an
area.   For salmon and steelhead atleast, these are the fish that have
spent 10,000 - 20,000 years fine tuning themselves to a particular watershed.
Any tinkering by running them through hatcheries (i.e. humans control the
spawn) or by cross-breading zaps their right to be called natives.

I think of "wild" as any genetic strain that shows natural spawning success
for a given watershed over time.   Allowed to spawn naturally for hundreds
of years, they might be called natives.

I think of "hatchery" as any hatchery reared fish.  Repeated hatchery-izing
of any fish will alter the genetic components no matter what the genetic
source was.

At the recent Oregon Salmon Summit, some talked of identifying and protecting
"core" fish populations.   If we can't protect everything, maybe we should
protect large genetic pools with the hope that if humans can straighten up
and restore all the rivers and creeks in the future, that the core populations
could be used to re-seed lost populations.

Thomas Gilg
tomg@cv.hp.com

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Does your screen scroll sideways ?
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