HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: myst@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Advertising and "Tomb" (was KERA)
Date: 13 Aug 92 02:04:06 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon Computer Club

In article <-403789@nemesis>, uhclem@nemesis.UUCP writes:
  {Regarding "Tomb of the Cybermen"} 
> If this is supposed to be a "power" night to make sure the Dr. Who supporters
> are serious about this program, they have made a mistake in not advertising
> it.  I noticed it a week early by accident.
> 
	Ya, the local New Hampshire PBS station has done the same thing. They
have yet to advertise they're showing "Tomb" at the end of the month.  I
learned about it from their program guide, but I know a lot of local "Who"
fans who have forsaken watching the program because of the endless repeats. I 
think the station is going to miss a lot of revenue because of this tactic. 
Unless, being cynical, they want to judge the loyality of Who fans, then have 
a reason to cancel the show. The Vermont PBS station has been the opposite, 
since the beginning of July, they've been stating before and after the 
program, in a Star Wars type scroll ad, 'a missing episode of Doctor Who will 
be shown on August 15th!' How many other people have found their local PBS 
stations advertising "Tomb" being on?
	Also is August 15th, the earilest the show is being broadcast in
America? Has anyone seen it already? 

			eagerly awaiting Saturday!
				Myst@Drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu
From: dave.yadallee@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Yadallee) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: QUIZ EPISODE 5
Date: 17 Aug 92 23:16:00 GMT
Reply-To: dave.yadallee@freddy.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Yadallee) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Freddy's Place BBS - Edmonton, AB - 403-456-4241


we have the results from the first 4 trivia quizzes, scores out of 40 :

   Frank Durda IV (uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org)  32
   James William Bennetts (james@mundil.cs.mu.oz.au) 23
   Jonathan Drukman (jondr@sco.com) 19.5
   Ron O'Dell (keeper@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us)15.5
   Kevin Blayton (kgb8752@ultb.isc.rit.edu) 14
   Iain Asplin Roberts (               )  10
   Ariane(Ablanch@physics.su.oz.au) 8
   Richard K. Fox (fox-r@cis.ohio-state.edu) 5
   Franklin Trumphy (swan@iastate.edu)  3.5


And now Part 5, which is purely based on DR mk 2:

*1)  Who did the Cybermen use to deflect a ship into the sun?

*2)  After regenerating, who did the doctor see in the mirror ?

*3)  Name the first DW to feature Patrick Troughton's face at the
beginning
     of the show?

*4) Who was suppose to be the next companion after Ben and Polly had
left?

 5) What did the cybermats home on ?

*6) Which country does Salamander originate from   ?

*7) How did the Doctor and companions rescue the riggers in "Fury from
the
    Deep"?

 8) Describe the Master of the LAnd?

*9) What was Benton's rank according to the 2nd  Dr ?

10) Who was the other Gallifreyan renegade in "The War Games" ?


    Rules:

    1)  No posting of answers.  That is up to me.
    2)  Enter as many times as you like, until you get 10/10.
    3)  Deadline is extended to Wednesday, 19 August, 1992 11:59 MDT.




Dave Shariff Yadallee
yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All!
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: ghogenso@jarthur.claremont.edu (Gordon Hogenson)
Subject: Re: Wanted to buy - NTSC videos
Keywords: Videos buying
Organization: Harvey Mudd College, Claremont, CA 91711
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 01:38:53 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.100905.22570@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu> bhollon@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Brett Hollon) writes:
>Will pay reasonable transcription fee (eg $10.00 a show) for clear NTSC VHS
>of Tom Baker and Peter Davison era shows.  Especially looking for

Do not respond to this request!

What he is trying to do is a very bad idea.  Legal or not, copying
tapes for a price (or receiving them) is very unethical.  The DW
video exchanging community survives only because of the integrity and
honesty of DW fans.

1. If you considered $10 a tape reasonable for these ordinary episodes,
  how much for something rare like a pristine copy of
  a color "Silurians" ?  $50 ?  $ 150 ?  DW video exchanging would
  suddenly become a high stakes game that would attract pirates out
  to make a few bucks off the really rare tapes.  Who would return 
  a lost episode to the BBC if they could demand $200 a copy and be
  making ten copies a week?

2. If one person sells tapes, what's to stop someone else from doing it?
   Soon enough we'd all be tempted to start selling.  At that point
   it would be damned hard for any fan to get a copy of much of anything
   without shelling out money to some scoundrel who may be taking 
   advantage of someone else who gave him tapes for free.


3. People would be encouraged to hoard things to increase their value.

4. The Powers that Be would eventually crack down on all of us, and
   all fans would lose.

For these reasons, please do not sell or buy copied tapes!
-- 
Gordon Hogenson                       ghogenso@jarthur.claremont.edu
                ghogenso@chemc2.chem.washington.edu
"You won't get any medals for being stupid, General.  In fact, you won't
be getting any more medals for anything." -- Who said it, what story?
From: Liz%Eng%Banyan@MAGNOLIA.BANYAN.COM
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: _Cat's Cradle_ comments
Date: 22 Aug 92 04:16:31 GMT
X-Unparsable-Date: Wed, 31 Dec 69 19:00:00 EST

No spoilers, really; just some comments on mood and location.  But just
in case:



I just finished the first two Cat's Cradle books, _Time's Crucible_ and
_Warhead_.  In general, I must say I like this "darker" version of the
Doctor; he is, after all, an alien, and it's more interesting to me when
the writers don't try to humanize him too much.  (Whoever it was that
referred to Peter Davison as "cuddly" had me on the floor. :-))  As I
recall, Hartnell's Doctor was not always good humored, or even honest,
with his companions.  

That being said, I will confess I liked _Time's Crucible_ much better
than _Warhead_.  _Warhead_ was written well enough; but I found myself
somewhat uninvolved with the characters, even Ace and the Doctor.  And
BOY, was it GRIM.  I mean, _Time's Crucible_ wasn't exactly an amusement
park; but somehow it's nastier when they're talking about HOME.

On balance, well worth the $5.95 each.

Liz



Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: "SHADA" US release {Update}
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 01:28:07 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.231636.12896@wam.umd.edu> mrmuon@next14epsl.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins) writes:
>In article <1992Aug19.210212.8745@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>  
>ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>.. (reasons for CBS/Fox not to include scripts)
>
>Ok, that all made sense, but is there a way for us to get this script and  
>so have the full "Shada" experience?
>Has Titan printed it? Come to think of it, does anyone have a list of  
>precisely which stories Titan has printed so far?


Nope, Titan hasn't printed it.
As for "the full Shada experience," I just don't see why the scripts
are necessary.  Somewhere around 40% of the show itself is there,
and I think we can trust Tom Baker's narration for the rest of it.
From: jmacd@intacc.uucp (Jason MacDermott)
Subject: CHRONICLES Submissions Wanted!
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 20:23:08 GMT
Expires: 27 Sep 92
Reply-To: jmacd@intacc.UUCP (Jason MacDermott)
Organization: Matrix Artists' Network


  "The Chronicles of a Time Lord" fan magazine is looking for people who
are interested in writing articles/columns/reviews/fiction of a Doctor Who
nature.

  Our magazine covers only Doctor Who, and it completely non-profit.  Any
money generated goes back into the magazine.  If you are interested in
writing for this fanzine, we regret that we cannot pay you, but we will
send you a copy of the issue(s) that your work appears in.

  We are also looking for any fan-made artwork for publication.  If you
are interested, please send email to (or contact publicly)
"jmacd@intacc.uucp".

  Here are some of the articles we are looking for right now:
-Reviews of the "Cat's Cradle" or future New Adventures books
-Reviews of any Doctor Who videos, U.K. or North American
-Fan written Doctor Who fiction
-Commentary on the broadcasting of Doctor Who in any regional area(s),
including England.
 
  If you have any other ideas or submissions (no matter how bizarre!) or
an idea for a regular column, please let us know!
 
  You can contact Jason MacDermott, the editor, at:

jmacd@intacc.uucp
 
  Or via post at:

Chronicles of a Time Lord
1919 Delaney Dr.
Mississauga, Ont.
L5J-3L2

Thanks for reading.
From: mrmuon@next03pg2.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: MPT
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: md,va,dc
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:24:16 GMT

I know that Maryland Public Television is going to air "Tomb of the  
Cybermen" (on the 22nd I think), but are they going to air "Resistance is  
Useless" as well (as other stations are doing)?
From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Subject: RE: "TOMB" ON KERA 13 AUG
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 00:37:10 GMT


In a previous article, doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes) says:

>-> distressing fact came out and that is KERA is moving DW to Sunday
>-> afternoons at 1pm. I am rather unhappy about this and plan on letting
>-> the station know about
>Watch out! That's how WLIW got rid of Doctor Who! They decided to move
>it to Saturday at 11:30 PM! Then, before you knew it, a month later, it
>was gone! Be careful of this! KERA might be doing the same thing!
>

Could be, but I doubt it will happen in the next month. I was in the
Dallas/Fort Worth area about 3 weeks ago and they were running "The
Sontaran Experiment". Since this story comes from Tom Bakers first
season as the Doctor and since PBS stations are usually compelled to
buy an entire package of the givin Doctor they choose to run, it would
be awfully expensive (not to mention stupid) to pull the plug after
buying such a large package. On the other hand, next year at this
time the DFW area might be in jeopardy of loosing Doctor Who if the
number of viewers falls off dramatically.

-- 
Bill White, aa634@Cleveland.freenet.edu OR aa037@Medina.Freenet.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: pcrossma@cs.ulowell.edu (The Gillrocker)
Subject: Re: "SHADA" US release {Update}
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:17:14 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.032400.12632@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin) writes:
>In article <scottg.05wq@amiganet.chi.il.us> scottg@amiganet.chi.il.us (Scott Gittlitz) writes:
>Yes, I heard the same thing last weekend at a CreationCon in Minneapolis.
>I didn't mention it until now because I didn't want to start spreading
>video rumours again like I did last month with "Tomb!"
>(Typical isn't it?  Get the right info for one and you're too chicken to
>post it.....)
>As for no scripts, I don't mind so much since I already have one....:)


Ok...I am seriously miffed about this.  How can I get a copy of the
SHADA script so I can read it too????


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From: norbeck@pollux.cs.bucknell.edu (nancy norbeck `93)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Sounds and Sound-bites?
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:37:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Bucknell University, Lewisburg, Pa.



This is a two-fold question:

1)  Where can I find Doctor Who sounds for the Mac?  (I have a feeling 
this is on the FAQ, but since I'm not a Mac owner myself, and don't have
a copy of the FAQ, or the ftp site to find the FAQ, well...)  A friend
of mine and I want to add a TARDIS dematerialisation sound as a shutdown 
sound (among other things)

2)  I have a whole pile of tapes I'm currently going through, and when I
first took on the project of cataloguing them so I'd know exactly what was
where, I got the idea, while watching an episode, of creating an answering
machine message from little Who sound-bites, if you will.  I'm trying to
think of stories that would have good answering machine material in them--
I'm thinking of something along the lines of "She's not here, Doctor."  
"Not here?  What do you mean, she's not here?  She's got to be here." etc.
Any of you have any ideas?  it doesn't even have to mention the Doctor's
name.  I figure there have been enough female companions who run off and
get lost for this to be a reasonably feasible idea.

Any suggestions?


TIA,

Nancy

--
|.."I've heard snappier comebacks from a bowl of Rice..|....Nancy Norbeck.....|
|......Krispies."  Charles Emerson Winchester III......|.norbeck@bucknell.edu.|
From: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: concerning....
Date: 14 Aug 92 04:15:33 EST
Reply-To: "dale clayton" <dale.clayton@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

-> No matter what else happens, JNT and Andrew Cartmel won't be back in
-> their original posts.  JNT has finally found a steady job other than
-> producing Doctor Who video specials, and Cartmel is also doing well
-> on other series.
->
-> What would everyone think, however, of either Cartmel or
-> Nathan-Turner writing (or in JNT's case) or directing the odd story
-> now and then?

 I don't want to even think about them. However in JN-T's case, he
should have resigned (or fired) from DW years before the last
(can't/won't say final) season. Somewhere just before Mawdryn Undead.
                                                                     :-/

Regards,
Dale Clayton
------------------------
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: thomasc@ms.uky.edu (Thomas Campbell)
Subject: Doctor's Return??
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 03:58:06 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

Ok, I waited and waited to ask this but, I'm going to go ahead and ask
since I haven't been able to discern a really definite answer.  Is 
Doctor Who off the air at the present?  Is it going to be coming back
if it is.  I'm a *huge* Doctor Who fan.  I have *many* *many* of the 
tapes, (it keeps my sanity in no man's land Lexington, KY) but, I haven't
heard any new about it in a *long* time.  Will someone send me a FAQ or
something?!?!   

Alex

Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: lthompsn@polari.online.com
Subject: Question
Organization: Seattle Online Public Access Unix (206) 328-4944
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:57:08 GMT

I'm sure this is a FAQ but I just started reading this newsgroup a couple days
ago.   Is the 26th season the last (the episode guides stop there)?  Is it
on hiatus or is there more?

Thanks

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From: alan@cowan.edu.au (A.SALTER)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: dr who in australia
Date: 19 Aug 92 09:33:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: scorpion.alan.714216822
Organization: University of Western Australia


Does anyone out there know when Dr Who is to be televised
again in Australia and What time and day/date beginning
From: navsaria@bass.bu.edu (Dipesh Navsaria)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: What happened?
Date: 21 Aug 92 20:00:59 GMT
Organization: Boston University

I just went through some old news from the group when I "discovered" it...I
haven't watched Dr.Who for some years now (I think I stopped due to time
constraints in the 1st McCoy season).  Is it true?  Is the series over?  What
happened in the last few seasons?  I can't believe it... 8(

Perhaps an American producer should take it over and do it now... 8)


						Dipesh
						(navsaria@bu-pub.bu.edu)
From: neal@riemann.math.mun.ca (Neal Crossan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Current news and notes
Date: 13 Aug 92 13:53:48 GMT

>Some current news and notes regarding Doctor Who.
>[This info is taken from DWM #190]

  These corrections come from DWB #104

>To be rereleased in September, Anthony Coburn's scripts
>for 'The Masters of Luxor' (which, if I remember correctly,
>was supposed to have been the 2nd Doctor Who story in 1963,
>but was replaced by the Daleks).  The cover is by Alister
>Pearson.  Other script books will be released by Titan,
>with 'The Daemons' due in October.

  This is not a rerelease, but the first time it will be published.
The release date is August 27th and other script books will be The Daemons
in October, Power of the Daleks in March (before the Target novelization) and
Ghost Light in April.


>The next New Adventure, Nightshade by Mark Gatiss, is due 
>out August 20.  (Could someone post an ISBN as soon as
>they get it, please?).  

  ISBN 0 426 203763

  While I have it in front of me, some other news;

-Tomb has topped 40,000 in sales
-A cartoon series based on Doctor Who is under serious consideration by
 BBC Enterprises
-Marvel is planning to launch Doctor Who Classic Comics (reprints of Who
strips) every month.  Published in full colour it will cost 2.50 for 52 pages
and the first issue will be the first two and a half stories from Countdown.
-Any future release of audio tapes of missing episodes are unlikely.  Richard
Landen who supplied the audio tapes (and who has the only collection of 
pristine quality tapes) is annoyed that John Nathan Turner wouldn't credit
credit him for his cooperation (even though he waived a fee in return for a
credit), and then splattered his (JNT's) name all over the covers instead.
-JNT has signed a new six month contract with BBC video, with The Reign of 
Terror, The Tenth Planet, The Invasion, The Davison Years, The Baker Years,
The McCoy Years, a Doctor Who documentaries tape (Whose Doctor Who and 
Resistance is Useless) and Silver Nemesis (along with The Making of Silver 
Nemesis) being considered for release.


   -Neal Crossan-


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From: pcrossma@cs.ulowell.edu (The Gillrocker)
Subject: Looking for phone numbers / addresses for WhoNet or something....
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 15:11:18 GMT


	I am looking for the phone number(s) of the Who-Net Enterprises 
people who just sell Dr. who stuff.  

	I am not sure if I even have the right place.  Please get Back to me
ASAP...I want to get a catalog so I can get the 1993 Dr. Who calendar.

				Thanks, 
				Paul (Book keeper) Crossman

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From: doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes) 
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: INTERNET
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:32:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Advanced Computer Concepts BBS, New Rochelle, NY 914-654-1981
Reply-To: doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Doug Vermes) 


I was perusing a "booklet" describing internet and came across this
paragraph which might interest you:

    You have at your fingertips the ability to talk in "real-time" with
someone in Japan, send a 2,000-word short story to a group of people who
will critique it for the sheer pleasure of doing so, see if a Macintosh
sitting in a lab in Canada is turned on, and find out if someone happens
to be sitting in front of their computer (logged on) in Australia, all
inside of thirty minutes. No airline (or tardis, for that matter) could
ever match that travel itinerary.

Whovians are everywhere. <GRIN>
    - Doug
-----
doug.vermes%acc1bbs@ssr.com
From: rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us (Michael Quintero)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: RE: THE 3 DOCTOR WHO NOVE
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 92 22:20:24 CDT
X-Maildoor: WaflineMail 1.00r

Tom Wilson sez:
>yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shortonbrains Yadallee) wrote:
>>>I know some people read all the novels, but I
>>>think the average fan will NOT read the novel if the story exists on video.
>
>>  One moment, Tom!  One must realize that this is the great Adams who made the
>>comedy HHGTHG a classic!  HOw CAN you make the ABOVE statements? Even if it
>>did make it to video, I would be interested in reading the novel!
>
>Dave, put 2 and 2 together: you must not be the average fan. How come you think
>everybody thinks like you do? I guess people who liked Hitchhiker watch Adams'
>Doctor Who stories just because he wrote it...? I like Adams' work, but I don't
>worship the guy.
>
Trust me, Tom.  Nobody thinks (or doesn't think) like Dave does.  He's
got a special talent for not thinking. :-)

But seriously, the novelisation of the stories won't make any difference.
People who like reading books for the added insights they bring will read
them.  If Adams adds extra, Adamsesque material to the books (that is,
a full-blown Adams extravaganza) it may be worth it.  Considering the
low fees paid by Target, that won't happen, and neither will the
novelisation.  Of course, DSY will buy the books, the matching pot
holders, the limited edition collector's imitation china plates, and
the commerative toenail clippers....

Personally, I like HHGTTG, and I especially like his DW stories.
That's because I like DW and HHGTTG.  If I only liked HHGTTG, I'd
buy the DW books, expecting a spiffy, Adamsesque book, but being
disappointed by being thrust into an entire series I know nothing about,
and probably thinking less of Douglas Adams, DW, or both.

My two cents.

Mike (Not the Cyberleader) Quintero ( rassilon@infopls.chi.il.us )
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From: crow@coos.dartmouth.edu (Preston F. Crow)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: science-fiction channel newsgroup?
Date: 19 Aug 92 21:14:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: dartvax.1992Aug19.211438.21004
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In <9208182329.AA16875@uahcs2.cs.uah.edu> kking@UAHCS2.CS.UAH.EDU (Ken King, Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Alabama-Huntsville) writes:

>greetings:
>  does anyone feel a need for a separate group for the upcoming sf
>channel?  i don't want it to preclude dr. who discussions, just to
>have a place to cover wider ground, and have people who have info
>on programs post there, etc...
>  sound good?

I think that rec.arts.sf.tv should cover that adequately.  Discussions that
are specific to Dr. Who can go here and other series that don't have their
own newsgroup can be carried on there.  The creation of a new channel
shouldn't require a new newsgroup directly.  If, however, rec.arts.sf.tv
gets swamped, then they may need to split it up to include groups for
more series.  I doubt, however, that there will be enough additional
Dr. Who traffic to warrant a split of this newsgroup.

--PC

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