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From: jeddrieb@pvec.bridgewater.ns.ca (Ben Jeddrie)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british,alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Holy Grail --- and MORE !!!
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:24:37 GMT
Organization: Parkview Education Centre, N.S. Canada

In article <1993Jan8.083546.4234@telesoft.com> kst@telesoft.com (Keith Thompson @pulsar) writes:

>In article <28260@dog.ee.lbl.gov> envwpk@epb2.lbl.gov (Werner P. Keilholz) writes:
>> > Can you say "copyright violation"?
>>
>> I'm not really sure, since most of the material there was re-written
>> by people who are Python fans just for fun, but hey ...

>Oh?  Your description implied that these are Monty Python scripts,
>however they may have been transcribed.

>> I believe we should thank the guy who is running the server for providing the
>> service instead of bringing 'legalities' into this...

>I'm not sure why you put the word "legalities" in quotation marks; it
>is an extremely relevant issue.  In any case, I'm more concerned with
>ethics.  Theft of intellectual property is still theft.

>> I don't think the 'creators' are interested in comercializing Python scripts
>> on paper...

>I'm afraid you're mistaken.  I have in front of me a two-volume
>publication titled "The Complete Monty Python's Flying Circus: All the
>Words".  It contains the complete scripts from the four Monty Python
>series, from 1969 to 1974.  It's published in the U.S. by Pantheon
>Books, a division of Random House, Inc., New York, and in the U.K.
>(under the title "Monty Python's Flying Circus: Just the Words") by
>Methuen London.  If you can't find it in a local bookstore, you could
>probably order it by mail without too much difficulty.

>Scripts for most or all of the Monty Python movies have also been
>published commercially.

>>             Rather I believe they would be pleased to see that there is a
>> fan community industriously trying to reproduce the material that, to my
>> knowledge, is not available on the market.

>Then by all means get in touch with Python Productions, Ltd., and see
>how they feel about it.

>>                                            And I don't believe it has 
>> a chance to ever be available, just because there aren't enough looneys
>> arround who would buy it :-)

>There are more looneys around than you might think.

>Burma!
>-- 
>Keith Thompson (The_Other_Keith)  kst@telesoft.com
>TeleSoft, 5959 Cornerstone Court West, San Diego, CA, 92121-9891
>"Listen to me, people!  We must stick them with quills -- it's the only way!"
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     I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY "WELL DONE"
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
From: sbbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen B. Brown)
Subject: Re: Monty Python Filmography +
Keywords: films television Shakespeare
Organization: The Ohio State University Radio Observatory
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 18:47:42 GMT

In article <C0r2zI.Jq1@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> svanegmo@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Stephen Van Egmond) writes:
> John Cleese also was in a version of Taming of the Shrew
> (as in Shakespeare) with Elizabeth Taylor (I think)...

I think you're confusing two versions.  John Cleese did one for
the BBC, which aired on PBS about 6 years ago.  It was excellent
and I have many times cursed myself for not making a permanent copy.
Elizabeth Taylor did (or overdid) a Hollywood version several decades
ago (with Richard Burton, maybe?) which wasn't very good at all.

> It was pretty good figuring it WAS Shakespeare...

That's an unfair crack.  It's a challenge to do bad Shakespeare.

I will also mention the version of Comedy of Errors done by The
Flying Karamazov Brothers, which was outstanding.  If you ever
get a chance to watch it, do so.

It's a digression to talk about Shakespearian tragedies in
alt.comedy.british, even in comedy remakes, but I also enjoyed
the MacKenzie brothers version of Hamlet (called Strange Brew.)

-- 
Steve Brown, N8HFI              sbbrown@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu
Chief Engineer, The Ohio State University Radio Observatory ("Big Ear")
Organization: University of Central Florida--Computer Services
Date: Monday, 4 Jan 1993 11:00:52 EST
From: Laura Kittleson <LAURA@UCF1VM.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Wooster & Jeeves (Blackadder Fans Take Note!)
Distribution: world
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Re: previous postings about "Jeeves and Wooster" on Masterpiece
Theater....

Masterpiece Theater (okay, Theatre)'s first episodes of "Jeeves
and Wooster" are available on video in Signals, Critic's Choice
Video, and other such video-related catalogs that carry British
comedy and drama.  IMHO, the first episodes were more amusing
than the current run, although the ones going now are still funny.
Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie are excellent, wonderfully talented.
From: sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Monty Python Movies
Date: 11 Jan 93 02:49:35 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

>>>How many Monty Python Movies have been produced?  Grail, Life of Bryon, what
>>>else?

>>(Shit... I can't remember any others... I'm not including pure
>>Gilliam stuff, like Brazil, coz it's got no others)

>Actually Michael Palin appears as the torturer in Brazil

Yeah. I know now. (Can you ever forgive me *:) ), but the main
reason I didn't include Gilliams films is that, though they're weird
(a la Gilliam), they're not Python. Even stuff like Baron Munchausen
isn't Pythonesque... it doesn't have the same style of humour at
all. 

>Paul Smith

SMnioi
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british,alt.fan.monty-python
From: sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney)
Subject: Re: Holy Grail --- and MORE !!!
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 01:04:53 GMT

>>         "PC Owner?",'Yes',"Good. Line on the left, one cross each."
>TASK!!! One task each! 

Nice, but my favourite is:
         "Amiga Owner?",'Yes',"Good. Line on the right, two crosses each."
BTW, no, I DON'T have a <spit> PC <spit> either.

>:-)

MSio
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Monty Python Movies
From: paul@redgum.ucnv.edu.au (Paul Smith)
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 00:05:58 GMT
Organization: UCNV, Bendigo, Victoria, Australia

sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney) writes:
>>How many Monty Python Movies have been produced?  Grail, Life of Bryon, what
>>else?

>(Shit... I can't remember any others... I'm not including pure
>Gilliam stuff, like Brazil, coz it's got no others)

Actually Michael Palin appears as the torturer in Brazil


Paul Smith
paul@redgum.ucnv.edu.au
From: carter@cmptrc.lonestar.org (Carter Bennett)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Yes Primeminister
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:35:25 GMT
Organization: CompuTrac Inc., Richardson TX

In article <1993Jan7.164310.1@cstp.umkc.edu> nsimha@cstp.umkc.edu writes:
>
>	YES PRIMEMINISTER is a BBC series.  There are definetly
>	more than three.  You are correct there was a series called
>	YES Minister before this.  
>
>	Was this on PBS?

Ahoy, Nick!

   Actually, not on PBS as such, but a good number of PBS affiliate stations
have run these series.

   In fact KERA-TV in Dallas has just started the series over (last weekend)
and is running the series at 2200 CST/CDT.

Cheerio!
-- 
Carter R. Bennett, Jr. - Scientist | "Oh my God!  I _AM_ a nerd!!!"
carter@scilab.lonestar.org - home  | - C. Bennett, Sept 25, 1992, after
carter@cmptrc.lonestar.org - work  | realizing he had been talking about
KI5SR          | "market availability of preconfigured Toll-House cookies."
From: sprooney@unix1.tcd.ie (Simon Rooney)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Blackadder theme lyrics
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:52:13 GMT
Organization: Trinity College, Dublin

>I always thought it was

>"The Black Adder" (episodes 1-5) [Added by RSH - one word by JP.]

>The sound of hoof beats 'cross the glade.
>Good folk, lock up your son and daughter.
>Beware the deadly flashing blade,
>Unless you want to end up shorter.
>			   ^^^^^^

Hmm. Sounds better anyway. I don't have it on vid, so I won't bother
checking... I'll just change it (I prefer your version)

>Regards, Jon
M<Sisois
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From: envwpk@epb2.lbl.gov (Werner P. Keilholz)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british,alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Holy Grail --- and MORE !!!
Date: 7 Jan 1993 16:47:52 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley
Reply-To: envwpk@epb2.lbl.gov (Werner P. Keilholz)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.39

>> In article <28181@dog.ee.lbl.gov> envwpk@epb2.lbl.gov (Werner P. Keilholz) wr
ites:
>> > There is a server containing a variaty of Monty Python texts -
>> > including precious material like 'Life of Brian', 'Holy Grail' and
>> > a whole lot of sketches from the 'humerous British television
>> > comedy show' that you all know ...

>> Can you say "copyright violation"?

I'm not really sure, since most of the material there was re-written
by people who are Python fans just for fun, but hey ...

>> Legalities aside, please consider whether distributing these works
>> without compensation is fair to their creators.

I believe we should thank the guy who is running the server for providing the
service instead of bringing 'legalities' into this...

I don't think the 'creators' are interested in comercializing Python scripts
on paper... Rather I believe they would be pleased to see that there is a
fan community industriously trying to reproduce the material that, to my
knowledge, is not available on the market. And I don't believe it has 
a chance to ever be available, just because there aren't enough looneys
arround who would buy it :-)

Why can't you just enjoy it ?  Or why do you read this group ?

Werner

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From: zlsiida@fs1.mcc.ac.uk (dave budd)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Waiting For God
Date: 11 Jan 93 13:14:43 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <C0oM65.FAK@news.iastate.edu> tzb76@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:


>       Am curious if this show saw more than one season.

>Paul

Oh yes.  On 3rd or maybe even 4th now.  I think.  More than 1, anyway.

        Never believe an experiment until it is confirmed by theory 
    Dave Budd, MCC, Oxford Rd, Manchester, England    (44|0)61-275-6033
From: ajj@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Andy Jackson)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Waiting For God
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:35:38 GMT

In <C0oM65.FAK@news.iastate.edu> tzb76@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:


>	Am curious if this show saw more than one season.

>Paul

There has been at least one more season here in the uk and a christmas
special (complete with Diana going "baaaaa humbug !"). Could someone with
the knowledge let us know how many seasons there have been ? This is one
of my favourite programs, the humour is wicked at times. Anyway what day is
it? Tuesday, right I must go and talk to the sherpa about the yaks its a
long way to everest base camp...........;-)

Andy. 

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Date: Sunday, 3 January 1993 21:56:22 PDT
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From: "Steven K. Wilder" <swilder@infoserv.com>
Organization: Private
Subject: Re: Wooster & Jeeves (Blackadder Fans Take Note!)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Distribution: world

In <gannon.726042295@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu>, gannon@sbphy.physics.ucsb.edu (Mark Andrew Gannon)  wrote:
> 
> I hope all fans of British comedy have read the works of P. G.
> Wodehouse.
>
> [Text discussing Masterpiece Theatre presentation of Wooster and
>  Jeeves starring Stephen Fry and Hugh Laurie omitted.]
>
> Laurie plays Bertie Wooster and Fry plays Jeeves.  
> 
>[sig omitted]
Yes, it's excellent work -- I just saw episode #2. Fry and Laurie have
to be a couple of the most versatile comic actors anywhere.

And DO read the stories. There is a collection of short stories 
called "Very Good, Jeeves" (in paperback from Penguin) that is as
good a place to dig in as any. There is more humor in the narrative
(written in the first person from Wooster's perspective) than there
is in the dialog.

Tickety-tock. Must dash.

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From: svanegmo@descartes.uwaterloo.ca (Stephen Van Egmond)
Subject: Re: Monty Python Filmography +
Keywords: list films television Monty Python
Replies-To: gjhurlbut@1302.watstar.uwaterloo.ca
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:54:52 GMT

John Cleese also was in a version of Taming of the Shrew (as in Shakespeare) with Elizabeth Taylor (I think)...  I'm not sure what year it was put out...  I saw it at High School in English class...  It was pretty good figuring it WAS Shakespeare...

Also you might want to add to your collection the plethora of commercials Cleese has done:
	Schweppes Ginger Ale
	Magnavox (I think) with the many Cleeses...
	and many other good commercials

This parrot is only resting...
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From: envwpk@epb2.lbl.gov (Werner P. Keilholz)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british,alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Holy Grail --- and MORE !!!
Date: 8 Jan 1993 18:07:34 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory, Berkeley
Reply-To: envwpk@epb2.lbl.gov (Werner P. Keilholz)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.39

>> I'm afraid you're mistaken.  I have in front of me a two-volume
>> publication titled "The Complete Monty Python's Flying Circus: All the
>> Words".  It contains the complete scripts from the four Monty Python
>> series, from 1969 to 1974.  It's published in the U.S. by Pantheon
>> Books, a division of Random House, Inc., New York, and in the U.K.
>> (under the title "Monty Python's Flying Circus: Just the Words") by
>> Methuen London.  If you can't find it in a local bookstore, you could
>> probably order it by mail without too much difficulty.
>> 
>> Scripts for most or all of the Monty Python movies have also been
>> published commercially.

I have to admit you're perfectly right: I really didn't know that the 
material was available !  How about providing the exact address ?  
I might be interested in buying some of the stuff... (see, we're 
not so bad after all :-) from which you can, of course, deduce that 
I am a looney, too. Sure, that's why *I* read this group. Kind of makes me
feel good that there's more of us !

Besides, I don't want to discuss the honest-people-always-respect-the-
copyright-issue, it has been done so often in other groups...
However, I feel our problem here is not exactly the same as pirating 
software - after all, nobody who didn't at least see one of the Pythons 
productions would ever download one of those files. So, in a way we *did*
pay a humble contribution to their salery (TV fees, records, live 
performances,...). 
But again, on the bottom you're right, considering that the texts *are*
comercialized. So on the button, my contention causing all
the headaches, is that unless we take into account of Monte Cristo in our
thinking George the Fifth this phenomenon the other hand we shall not be able
satisFact or Fiction section of the Watford Public Library-garily to
understand to attention when I'm talking to you and stop laughing, about human
nature, man's psychological make-up some story the wife'll believe and hence
the very meaning of life itselfish bastard, I'll kick him in the Balls Pond
road.

(well, now I don't dare to sign it anymore...)

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From: dnd@ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Monty Python Movies
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:02:32 GMT
Reply-To: dnd@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK

Actually.. Brazil has Michael Palin in, and Munchausen ahs eric Idle in...

I class them as ex-python cos they include python members and are damn funny/good!


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Subject: Yes Primeminister
From: nsimha@cstp.umkc.edu
Date: 7 Jan 93 16:43:10 -0600
Organization: UM - Kansas City, Computer Science
NNTP-Posting-Host: vax2.cstp.umkc.edu


	YES PRIMEMINISTER is a BBC series.  There are definetly
	more than three.  You are correct there was a series called
	YES Minister before this.  

	Was this on PBS?

	Nick

	nsimha@vax1.umkc.edu
From: dodd@mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu (Lawrence R. Dodd)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Almost Python movies(was Re: Monty Python Movies)
Date: 12 Jan 93 06:10:23
Organization: Dept of Chemical Engineering, Polytechnic Univ, NY, USA
Reply-To: dodd@roebling.poly.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: 's message of Monday, 11 Jan 1993 08:37:44 PST


>>>>> "WAUGH" == WAUGH  <WAUGH@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU> writes:

  WAUGH> In article <DODD.93Jan11062616@mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu>,
  WAUGH> dodd@mycenae.cchem.berkeley.edu (Lawrence R. Dodd) says:
>
>I really like Time Bandits.  I think I have seen it at least six times.  I
>still laugh hard in some parts of it:
>
> Servant: "It your so powerful, Master, then why are you stuck here?"
>      FX:  Boom! (man disappears in an explosion)
>  Master: "Good question."
>
>wish they would make a sequel to it.

  WAUGH> Me as well!

  WAUGH> Some great lines..

  WAUGH> Evil One: Then we shall have the ultimate power over everything.
  WAUGH>   Benson: We could turn beans into peas!
  WAUGH> Evil One: Benson, you are so mercifully free of the ravages of intelligence.
  WAUGH>   Benson: Thank you, Master.  Thank you!

with J.Cleese as Robin greeting the extremely short Time Bandits.

            Robin: And what are you then?
  1st Time Bandit: We're robbers.
            Robin: Robbers! How terribly fascinating! [to Second TB] And how long
                   have you been robbers?
  2nd Time Bandit: Four foot one.
            Robin: Four foot one? Four foot one? As long as that? Amazing!
From: etlcrcy@bugs.ericsson.se (Chris Cleverley)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Harry Enfield
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:17:59 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Cellular Division


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From: Steve.Varty@newcastle.ac.uk (Steve Varty)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Re: Waiting For God
Date: 11 Jan 93 12:31:56 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

tzb76@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:


>	Am curious if this show saw more than one season.

>Paul

Yes, and it got better!

Steve.


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From: mgb5528@cc.utah.edu (MICHAEL G. BECK)
Subject: Re: Waiting For God
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: University of Utah Computer Center
Date: 11 Jan 1993 20:42 MST  

In article <s0499528.66.0@let.rug.nl>, s0499528@let.rug.nl (R. Dijkhuis) writes...
{In article <C0oM65.FAK@news.iastate.edu> tzb76@isuvax.iastate.edu writes:
{>From: tzb76@isuvax.iastate.edu
{>Subject: Waiting For God
{>Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:56:28 GMT
{>	Am curious if this show saw more than one season.
{>
{>Paul
{ 
{ 
{Two I think. The second season is the one that ends with Diane's nice (the 
{Clapham Strangler) having a baby.
{ 
{ 
{I hope there will be more seasons. I loved it. Stephanie Cole is THE 
{GODDESS! (IMHO, of course).
{ 
{Reinder
  Yes I tend to agree with you all on Waiting for God.  I really like the niece 
she has got real class.  I just saw the episode where the adminstrator tried to 
have Diana and Tom mentally unfit and the niece told Diana about what is going 
to happen.

Yours Truly
Michael Beck
mgb5528@cc.utah.edu
From: vcz40@jester.usask.ca (Vanessa C. Zondervan)
Newsgroups: alt.comedy.british
Subject: Blackadder theme lyrics
Date: 10 Jan 1993 06:03:06 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
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X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]


Could someone please e-mail me or post the lyrics to the theme of Black
Adder series one? This would include the regular closing theme AND
ESPECIALLY the closing theme to the final show.

Thanx
 
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