HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: adams@chuck.dallas.sgi.com (Charles Adams)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Paddle usage
Date: 23 Nov 92 15:57:31 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc.

In article <VBREAULT.92Nov23100148@rinhp750.gmr.com>, vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault) writes:
|> 
|>    In rec.radio.amateur.misc, seligman@CS.Stanford.EDU (Scott Seligman) writes:
...stuff deleted...
|> Most right handed people use their right hand to operate the paddles
|> though a very large minority use their left hand.

Right.

|> Most operators prefer to send the dits with the finger and dashes 
|> with the thumb though the minority faction is large here as well.

Wrong.  Right handed individuals use thumb for dits and finger for dahs.
This follows naturally from changing over from a vibroplex key to electronic
keyer (for right handers).  The above statement for left handers by Val may be
from a majority of left handers using right handed vibroplex semi-automatic
key.

|> I am quite right handed but prefer to use my left hand for keying
|> and operating the controls.  I reason that this will keep my right
|> hand free for writing, reaching, etc.

Nobody has answered this one to my satisfaction.  Learned this from
contester before most people on the net were born.  If you are right
handed, send and write with the right hand.  Learn to send with the
pen/pencil in the hand.  Operate rig with left hand.

|> I send dits with my left index finger, dashes with the left thumb.
|> 
|> To form a "C", you press the dash, press the dit, release the dit and
|> dash.

Wrong.  Press the dah and hold, press the dit and hold, release the dah
and then release the dit.  Some timing required.  Start at slow speeds.
Someone on the net wanna make up a chart.  like "name that tune", i can
send that character with two moves - i can send that critter with one
move -0K, SEND THAT CRITTER.  ;-)

|> Congratulations and good luck.
|> 
|> 
|> --
|> -val-
|> 
|> Val Breault - GM Research - vbreault@gmr.com - N8OEF            \      /|
|> Instrumentation dept., 30500 Mound Rd., Warren, MI 48090-9055    \    / |
|> The opinions expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect   \  /__|
|> those of GMR or those of the General Motors Corporation.           \/   |___
|>  

chuck, k5fo  "fast operator" -  i used to be fat, but i lost 55 pounds.
From: oswood@psun.chem.yale.edu (Mark Oswood)
Subject: HF Loop Antennas
Followup-To: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Keywords: Capacitor
Reply-To: oswood@psun.chem.yale.edu
Organization: Yale University
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:38:03 GMT


I am thinking about building a loop antenna similar to the AEA isoloop.  
It seems like a great antenna design for limited space without losing too
much efficiency.  However, I can't afford the $300 AEA charges, and it doesn't seem impossible for me to build.  I have found an article in June 1986 QST which is
helpful, but I am wondering about what capacitor to use.  For those unfamiliar with 
the design, this is a loop of conductore approximately 1 meter in diameter with 
a variable capacitor in series with the loop.  The loop is coupled to the 
feedline through a gamma match or a smaller loop.  Apparently I need a 
variable in the range of 5-200 pF which is able to withstand at least 10,000V 
(assuming I wil limit my transmissions to ~100W).

1.  Can anyone suggest a source for such a capacitor?

2.  Has anyone actually built such a loop, and do you have any suggestions?

I hope this is the right group for technical questions--from reading one would
think this was alt.cw.flame. :-} 
 -----------
Mark C. Oswood	N1??? (4 weeks and waiting)
				oswood@psun.chem.yale.edu
			or 	moswood@biomed.bitnet
No disclaimers need apply.

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rick@cs.sunysb.edu (Richard Spanbauer)
Subject: FM receiver performance testing
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 21:16:07 GMT

What sort of tests/benchmarks are relevant for evaluating the performance of
an FM receiver?  For CW/SSB receivers, we have (among others):

	Noise figure
	Minimum discernable signal
	Blocking dynamic range
	Intermodulation distortion
	Image rejection

For FM receivers, one usually sees some mention of sensitivity, image
rejection, and perhaps the noise figure.  I would imagine that the blocking 
DR and IMD measurements are somehow different (or not even relevant) given
the presence of the limiter in an FM receiver.  For example, given good
AM rejection in the limiter/discriminator, one could not measure 1 db gain 
compression in order to determine the blocking DR.  Or is it the case that 
the linear (pre limiter IF) stage characteristics are tested when evaluating 
FM receiver performance?  What I am looking for is a set of tests that I can
use for evaluating the strong signal performance of some home grown FM
receivers - any suggestions are welcome!

				Rick Spanbauer, wb2cfv, SUNY/Stony Brook
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rph@sq.sq.com (Pontus Hedman (VE3RPH))
Subject: Re: "Digital" instead of "Morse" requirement?
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 92 18:51:16 GMT

gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:
>In article <17458@mindlink.bc.ca> Jim_Sollows@mindlink.bc.ca (Jim Sollows) writes:
>>We had a "Digital Ticket" here in Canada that didn't require code
>>certification
>>for years. And it was a total flop, in all the years it was available very
>>few people ever took advantage of it so it was dropped.
>
>That's what frequently happens to early pioneers. Digital is now starting
>to take off with the advent of higher speed modems and DSP.
>
>Gary KE4ZV

I don't think it's completely accurate to simply say that it was a "flop and
was dropped". *All three* previous Canadian license classes (General,
Advanced, and Digital) were simultaneously dropped when the Canadian licensing
system was restructured a few years ago. I'll grant you that Digital was
never terribly popular to begin with, though...

The system that has replaced it, if anybody is curious, is blindingly simple:

There is only one (1) license: The Amateur Operators Certificate.

You obtain this by writing 1) a regulations and operating procedures test and
2) a basic technical test. This gets you all modes above 30 MHz, at max 250W
DC input, but you're not allowed to sponsor a repeater, run remotely
controlled stations, or build your own transmitters. This is how most new
hams start out these days.

You can then get three more qualifications, in any order or combination:

Advanced technical: more detailed electronics knowledge. This lets you build
your own transmitters, sponsor repeaters, run remotely controlled stations,
and use 1000W DC input.

5 WPM: this gets you all modes below 4 MHz.

12 WPM: this gets you all modes below 30 MHz.

Incidentally, when they revamped the licensing system they also drastically
simplified the bandplan regulations: the only restrictions in place now are on
bandwidth. You can run any goshdarned mode you want anywhere in any hamband
you want, as long as it fits within the legal bandwidth and you ID every half
an hour. In practice, there is a CRRL/CARF suggested bandplan system which
most everybody adheres to.
-- 
Pontus Hedman			rph@sq.com		{uunet|utzoo}!sq!rph
AX25:VE3RPH @ VE3OGS.#SCON.ON.CAN.NOAM			(416) 239-4801
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gws
Subject: Special Bulletin 40  ARLX040
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 23:45:54 GMT


============================================================== 
| 	Automatic relayed from packet radio via              | 
| N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-895-2553                              |
==============================================================

ZCZC AX01
QST de W1AW
Special Bulletin 40  ARLX040
>From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT
November 19, 1992
Relayed by KB8NW/OBS & BARF-80 BBS
To all radio amateurs

SB SPCL ARL ARLX040
ARLX040 DXCC news

Operations accredited for DXCC.

The following documentation has been received and approved:

7Q7CW from 13 August 1990 through 13 August 1991.
C9RAA from 2 September 1991 through 16 October 1991.
D2/F6BLQ from 29 July 1992 through 14 September 1992.
D2CW from 25 July 1992 through 24 August 1992.
D2FGC from 27 July 1992 through 1 September 1992.
ET3BC/ET3YL from 9 October through 20 October 1992.
JT1/K7HDK from 15 September 1992 through 29 September 1992.
KP5/N0TG operations from 28 December 1992 through 4 January 1993.
PYTSN from 12 June 1992 through 31 December 1992.
S21ZC from 6 August 1992 through 12 August 1992.
S79CW from 17 October 1991 through 16 April 1992.
TA/DK7PE from 20 January 1992 through 18 February 1992.
AH0G/TF/P from 29 June 1992.
TU4EF from 1 July 1992 through 2 October 1992.
VS6/DK7PE from 18 June 1992 through 1 July 1992.
ZA/DF3CB from 10 July 1992 through 10 October 1992.
ZB2/IKFVC from 7 August 1992 through 20 August 1992.
ZS9/DK7PE operations until 31 May 1990.
NNNN

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: k9un@cbnewse.cb.att.com (j.w.ague)
Subject: Re: Third Party Traffic Question
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:07:12 GMT

A "junior" ham (as the poster called him/her) operating outside of his/her
priveleges is not licensed for that operation and therefore is treated
exactly the same as any non-licensed person speaking (note - NOT operating)
over the radio. That is, he/she is a third party - subject to third party
agreements (or lack of ) between the US and other countries.  This has
been the subject of many articles in various ham rags over the years. They
are not even to call CQ on bands where it is likely a DX station from a
country not participating in 3rd party agreements with the US may respond.

Wes Ague - k9un
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Jun's Electronics
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:54:05 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

garnet@borland.com (Garnet Chaney) writes:

>In article <randall.722114360@seashore> randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea) writes:
>>
>>
>>1) A retailer is not required to refund anything after 3 days.
>>
>>2) When a retailer gives refunds on software, he is inviting
>>the customer to rip HIM off.  The software can be copied,
>>effectively giving the customer free software if the retailer
>>refunds it.  Jun's policy is quite liberal and pro-customer.
>>

>Clothing stores also get ripped off a lot. Clothing is bought, worn to
>special event, and then returned. Some workers at clothing stores can
>truly remark "That dress has been to more evenings out that I have"....  

This is the problem for the retailer.  You cannot stay in business
unless you make money.  You cannot make money if you let people
rip you off right and left.  The margins on electronics and computer
items are low to begin with; there isn't much slack built in.
About all you can do is to come up with a returns policy that
is as fair to the customer as possible without cutting too deep
into your profits.  This will be a compromise policy that
some customers won't be happy with.  The alternative
is to close your doors.

-- 

=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=
Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software, Inc. 
Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
From: rrw@sunset (Bob Wier)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Date: 20 Nov 92 08:02:45 GMT
Originator: rrw@sunset.cse.nau.edu

From article <7906@lib.tmc.edu>, by jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard):
> In article <BxxHx7.Cy5@inews.Intel.COM> jreece@sousa.intel.com writes:
>>> Real Name: LOU LOU BEAULIEU         Birthday: MAY 24, 1945
>>Hmmm....  Isn't it a crime to get a federal license for anything by using a 
>>pseudonym or alias as a real name?
> 
> Has it occurred to anyone else that Priscilla Presley might be the pseudonym?
> -- 
> Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
> jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
>            "Cat: Four legs and an attitude." -- Jim Reese


  I believe Jay is right...

  Also, needless to say, this is HOLLYWOOD!  Probably not uncommon to legally
  change one's name -

  I also remember reading somewhere awhile ago that using a pseudonym isn't
  illegal unless you intend (or do) commit fraud with it...how this would
  be regarded in something like a federal agency application, I wouldn't
  have a clue ...

- Bob Wier

  ---------- insert favorite standard disclaimers here ----------
                   College of Engineering
      Northern Arizona University, Flagstaff Arizona
  Internet: rrw@naucse.cse.nau.edu | BITNET: WIER@NAUVAX | WB5KXH
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: feg@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (forrest.e.gehrke)
Subject: Re: Antenna Help
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 13:58:03 GMT

In article <1992Nov22.140913.4641@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
>
>>Better yet, try a vertical.  My vertical works better on 80m than
>>a dipole.  I would suggest getting a copy of "HF Antennas For All
>>Locations" and/or the "ARRL Antenna Book."  These books will tell
>>you about inverted V's, why your antenna is not working, and verticals.
>
>Verticals are the problem children of antennas. When in the clear over
>a good ground field, they work great. When in urban clutter over poor
>ground, they make fine dummy loads.
>

I don't know what "in the clear" means, but a good ground field
means at least 100 1/4 wavelength radials, if good efficiency
and low vertical angle radiation is the object with a 1/4 wave
high vertical.  

For 80M I have found no differences between such a vertical among 
trees of the same height or in the open.  Nearby buildings
of steel construction, or aluminum foil backed internal insulation,
matters.  Also don't overlook the resonate metal gutter of some
nearby house (this can take two forms: near 1/2 wavelength, or
a grounded 1/4 wavelength dounspout/gutter).  Anything like
that within 1/2 wavelength of the vertical will affect the
radiation resistance and the radiation pattern.

Forrest Gehrke feg@dodger.att.com

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Subject: Re: 1D3..Where?
Reply-To: reisert@sttng.mlo.dec.com (Jim Reisert)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation -- Maynard, MA
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 21:30:42 GMT


You worked Ralph, K1RH/1D3 on Dauphin I., NA142 (I think).  Ralph
makes up prefixes for every island he visits, a practice I'm not
really fond of.

73 - Jim AD1C

--
James J. Reisert                Internet:  reisert@sttng.enet.dec.com
Digital Equipment Corp.         UUCP:      ...decwrl!sttng.enet!reisert
146 Main Street	- MLO5-2/E45	Voice:     508-493-5747
Maynard, MA  01754		FAX:       508-493-1890

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tlanders@atlastele.com (Troy Landers)
Subject: WANTED: General class question pool
Organization: Atlas Telecom Inc.
Disclaimer: Views expressed do not necessarily represent those of my employer.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 09:44:47 GMT

Well, I have recently passed the TECH exams and I am in the process of
learning code.  Since the next step up for me is general class, I am
shooting for 13WPM.  Since I am doing that anyway, I would also like to
study for the general exam.  So, if anyone happens to have the general exam
question pool handy, could you please send it to me?  Thanks.

-Troy-

-- 
Troy Landers                                      EMAIL: tlanders@atlastele.com
Atlas Telecom                                     VOICE: [USA] 1+503.228.1400
4640 SW Macadam Ave.                              FAX:   [USA] 1+503.228.4434
Portland, OR 97201
From: vbreault@rinhp750.gmr.com (Val Breault)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: PASSED THE TEST!
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:06:21 GMT
Organization: General Motors Research Labs
In-reply-to: mark@lenti.med.umn.edu's message of 13 Nov 92 19:41:29 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.194129.4523@news2.cis.umn.edu> mark@lenti.med.umn.edu (Mark Olson (CDC)) writes:

      Last night I finally bit the bullet and went to an exam session.  I had 
   studied the Novice and Tech written exam material and had listened to a 14wpm
   code practice tape.  SO,  I figured I had nothing to lose by trying the 20wpm
   test - so I took it and PASSED it!  (hard to believe...) anyway, 

C O N G R A T U L A T I O N S  -  You deserve to feel proud

   I was able to pass the Novice and Tech exams but missed the General by
   one... oh well. Now I suppose I have to try to pass the General, Advanced
   and Extra or the code test will go away (do I have a year to do this?)

Your Certificate of Successful Completion of Element (CSCE) is valid for
one year.

      I don't have a call now, is this going to be a problem if I take more
   tests before the call arrives?

Yes, but it's a well known problem and your VE team can handle it.  Don't
worry, and don't let it interfere with your progress.

     Anyway, thanks to all on the net who inspired me to get involved;
   I'm going to enjoy this hobby!

   mark olson
   mark@lenti.med.umn.edu

Welcome to the hobby Mark.
--
-val-

Val Breault - GM Research - vbreault@gmr.com - N8OEF            \      /|
Instrumentation dept., 30500 Mound Rd., Warren, MI 48090-9055    \    / |
The opinions expressed by the author do not necessarily reflect   \  /__|
those of GMR or those of the General Motors Corporation.           \/   |___
From: brucec@tekgen.bv.tek.com (Bruce Cheney)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:30:07 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc.

> > Can anybody add to the list?
>

And don't forget:

NI7M  Bruce Cheney - Inventor of the Digital Chess Clock !!

(Wasn't Andy Warhol who said that in future everyone will be
famous for 5 minutes ?)

Bruce Cheney NI7M
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: tad@ssc.com (Tad Cook)
Subject: Re: Famous or well known HAMS
Organization: very little
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 02:45:53 GMT

In article <1992Nov14.065825.17016@news.columbia.edu> hyx1@cunixa.cc.columbia.edu (Harry Y Xu) writes:
>If you are interested in diseased hams also...

>I think (Col.) Prof. Edwin Armstrong was probably a ham.  In this Spring, 
>we found some of his stuff in W2AEE, club station of Columbia U. ARC.
>Cheers es 73,
>Harry Xu (KB2LHA)	``Hell has no terrors for pagans.''  --Arthur Rimbaud
>


Sorry, I hear enough diseased hams on 75 meters.


-- 
 Tad Cook     |  Phone:  206-527-4089  (home)     |   MCI Mail: 3288544   
 Seattle, WA  |  Packet: KT7H @ N7DUO.WA.USA.NA   |   3288544@mcimail.com 
              |  Internet: tad@ssc.com           or...sumax!ole!ssc!tad   
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: PASSED THE TEST!
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Gannett Technologies Group
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 14:24:26 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.194129.4523@news2.cis.umn.edu> mark@lenti.med.umn.edu (Mark Olson (CDC)) writes:
>
>   Last night I finally bit the bullet and went to an exam session.  I had 
>studied the Novice and Tech written exam material and had listened to a 14wpm
>code practice tape.  SO,  I figured I had nothing to lose by trying the 20wpm
>test - so I took it and PASSED it!  (hard to believe...) anyway, 
>I was able to pass the Novice and Tech exams but missed the General by
>one... oh well. Now I suppose I have to try to pass the General, Advanced
>and Extra or the code test will go away (do I have a year to do this?)
>  
>   I don't have a call now, is this going to be a problem if I take more
>tests before the call arrives?

Congratulations Mark. The FCC tends to get a little grumpy if you have
more than one application pending at the same time. If you decide to
take more exams before your license arrives, ask the VEC to hold the
paperwork until you can furnish them with a copy of your license.

Gary KE4ZV
From: randall@informix.com (Randall Rhea)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Is This Really Necessary?
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:11:06 GMT
Organization: Informix Software, Inc.

cole@concert.net (Derrick C. Cole) writes:

>P.S.:  What's with all the crap on 14.313, anyway?

1) The National Crap Frequency (NCF)

2) The biggest rebuttal against the argument that stiffer
licensing requirements make better hams (the boys causing
most of the trouble are Extras)


Maybe the phone company will offer a way to block out
14.313 like the dial-a-porn 900 numbers.


-- 

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Randall Rhea                                        Informix Software, Inc. 
Project Manager, MIS Sales/Marketing Systems    uunet!pyramid!infmx!randall
From: w1gsl@athena.mit.edu (Steven L. Finberg)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Need first date of an old Call: WA2SDY  Syracuse Univ. ARC
Summary: Save your old license
Keywords: Call book, old calls
Date: 23 Nov 92 08:01:39 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

WB2ZLW writes
>But the FCC must keep track of original license dates becuase i'm an
> "Old-fashioned tech and need to send away to the FCC to prove it.
>otherwise i'll need to take the generalwritten test again instead
>of just the 13 wpm.
>Is this right or am i under a misconception someplace?

Wrong

The FCC won't be able to help you prove you passed the "general" theory
if you have renewed / modified your license since the exam was changed.
All they eassily know is your current class, your current exp. date and 
when you last modified your license.

It is your responsibility to prove to the VE what elements you have previously
passed.  Unless you have some proof such as a license dated prior to the 
changes the VE has to assume your TECH is one of the new ones and give 
you credit for  el 2 and 3a only.

Worse yet you need the old license to prove having passed 5 WPM if you want to 
operate in the novice segments.  Then again what are the odds of the FCC 
chalanging anyone?  

There are actually 4 different kinds of Techs out there which VEs must treat
differently, all of who's tickets just say TECH.  Fortunately at least at 
the exam sessions we run it has not been much of a problem. So far 
everyone has had the early dated ticket or the certifucate of completions.

		73 Steve F

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