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From: hist1261@waikato.ac.nz
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Date: 19 Aug 92 17:05:17 +1200
Organization: University of Waikato, Hamilton, New Zealand

In article <1992Aug18.162050.9135@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>, dick1@hera.uucp (25443-vaughn) writes:
> This Woody Allen-Mia Farrow thing is the biggest sensation to 
> hit the NYC area in a long time.  Trump vs. Trump was big,
> but Trump isn't well-liked by New Yorkers, whereas 
> Woody Allen has been revered for years.
> 
> Here's what's true:
> 
> * Allen and Farrow became a couple around 1980.
>  
> * They have never married nor have they ever lived together.  
>    They live on opposite sides of Central Park; he on Fifth Ave., 
>    she on Central Park West.
> 
> * Allen has filed for custody of the three children
>    he has with Farrow (two adopted, one natural-born).
> 
> * Farrow has eleven children, seven of which are adopted.
> 
> * Allen has admitted having a current affair with Soon-Yi
>    Previn Farrow, whom Farrow adopted while married to Andre
>    Previn.  Various reports have Soon-Yi anywhere between
>    18 and 21 years old.  According to Allen, the affair has been
>    going on for seven months.
>    (Celeb divorce lawyer Raoul Felder has said that while this is 
>     technically not incest, Allen certainly appears to have taken 
>     advantage of his position.)
> 
> * Farrow has recently adopted two other children (whom Allen
>    did not adopt).  One is an eight-month-old crack baby,
>    the other is a 12-year-old blind girl.
> 
> * Farrow's mother is Maureen O'Sullivan, who has been very
>    vocal in her criticism of Allen.
> 
> * In Allen's movie 'Manhattan', he plays a 42-year-old man who has
>    an affair with a 17-year-old.  At one point the Allen character
>    exclaims, "I'm dating a girl who does homework!"
> 
> * Allen has a new movie called 'Husbands and Wives' coming out soon.
>    It stars himself and Ms. Farrow.
> 
> 
> Here's what's being alleged:
> 
> * Farrow found out about Allen's affair with Soon-Yi when she
>    discovered nude photos of Soon-Yi that had obviously been
>    taken in Allen's apartment.
> 
> * The Connecticut State Police are investigating allegations
>    of possible child abuse by Allen involving the seven-year-old
>    girl adopted by Allen and Farrow.
>   [ If this is true, Allen is a dead man, IMHO. ]

Isn't this just a ploy to improve Mia's chances to win the custody case?

> 
> 
> Allen's reputation in NYC is doing a free-fall right now.
> All indications are that this is only the proverbial tip of
> the proverbial iceberg, that there is a lot more story still
> to tell.

Why? Isn't he just living up to his movie persona a la "Manhattan"? 
Or indulging in an "immoral" practice foretold in the Sister-in-law/
Brother-in-law liaison of "Hannah & Her Sisters"?
Given that Mia married Ole Blue Eyes in her early twenties I don't
really think she's got a moral leg to stand on.

Richard.

> 
> Allen's strong desire for privacy has always been respected by
> the press.  No more.  His life is being blown wide open.
> 
> 
> Dick V.
From: ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Date: 19 Aug 92 18:46:41 GMT
Organization: AT&T

In article <66279@hydra.gatech.EDU> ccoprdj@prism.gatech.EDU (Jorge Diaz) writes:
> I don't know.  For the first 20 years of my life, women in film, drama, etc,
> were referred to as "actresses".  Women in the military were referred to
> as "ma'am" instead of "sir".  Now, I've even heard women referred to with
> the title Mr.

And women were "Miss" and "Mrs." and are now "Ms."

When *I* was in school, lo! these many years ago, we talked about
authoresses and poetesses (and Jewesses and Negresses).  Now, Toni
These words have fallen by the wayside without the world coming to an
end; I suspect "actress" can go as well.

> What's the deal?  Is it so degrading to women to use a different noun?

Is it so difficult to call people what they want to be called?  I mean, the
word is there already, and is supposedly neuter (do we have paintresses
and danceresses?).

I find the word "Jewess" degrading (or at some undefinable level,
offensive).  Is it asking so much to ask to be referred to as a Jew?  I
don't think so, so I don't see why someone shouldn't say, "I'm an
actor, not an actress."

Not everyone agrees; some actresses prefer that title to "actor."
To quote Miss Manners: "The polite thing to do has always been to
address people as they wish to be addressed, to treat them in a way
they think dignified.  But it is equally important to accept and
tolerate different standards of courtesy, not expecting everyone else
to adapt to one's own preferences.  Only then can we hope to restore
the insult to its proper social function of expressing true distaste."

Evelyn C. Leeper  |  +1 908 957 2070  |  att!mtgzy!ecl or  ecl@mtgzy.att.com
--
"IQ describes how big your gas tank is, but it doesn't tell if you're
running on empty." -- Harvey Newstrom (hnewstro@x102c.ess.harris.com)
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From: mcsweinberg@memstvx1.memst.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies,rec.games.trivia
Subject: Re: What movie was this song in?
Date: 17 Aug 92 10:11:47 -0600
Organization: Memphis State University

In article <1992Aug14.173031.6852@athena.mit.edu>, heitster@athena.mit.edu (Eric R Heit) writes:
> In article <1992Aug14.141300.14815@bnr.co.uk> ace@bharh45.bnr.co.uk (A.Elly) writes:
>>Hello there!!
>>
>>I was watching the Sky Movies Plus channel on the
>>dish here in England.  They were showing short
>>clips of films due to be shown during the next month
>>and in the background they played a song with the line
>>"... the future's so bright, I've gotta wear shades ..."
>>in it.
>>
>>Please, does anybody know what this song is actually
>>called, who it's by and which film, if any, it is
>>associated with.
>>
I saw Kuffs this weekend it was intthe beggining of it.
I know it has been in previous movies.

Rai.
From: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: ted turner et al
Date: 17 Aug 92 10:24:33 EST
Reply-To: "eric walker" <eric.walker@channel1.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Channel 1 Communications

TMFAP>wants. Even before anyone ever heard of colorization, I'd heard comments
TMFAP>from people who associated "black-&-white" with "cheap". If there wasn't
TMFAP>a large market for colorized films, neither Turner nor anyone else would
TMFAP>bother.

     I don't think there IS a large market for colorized films; the
     colorizers only THINK that people want to watch colorized movies.
     Case in point: according to Roger Ebert, the colorized videotape
     of "Casablanca" sold less than 1,000 copies nationwide - an
     unqualified disaster.  In fact, I believe the last time Ted Turner
     aired "Casablanca" on TNT (either last Christmas or the one before),
     he did it in black-and-white.

TMFAP>Secondly, the colorization process requires a nice clean black-&-white
TMFAP>print to start from, so Turner has been going through great time, money,
TMFAP>and effort to restore many of the old black-&-white classics to as
TMFAP>pristine a condition as is possible. And he's made these black-&-white
TMFAP>prints available for home video release as well. I have a number of the
TMFAP>MGM/UA and RKO laserdiscs struck from restored black-&-white prints,
TMFAP>and they are *gorgeous*.

     And I second your motion on this one.  Turner may have committed a
     blasphemy by colorizing black-and-white movies - and many black-and-
     white cartoons, too!  The versions of the Max Fleischer "Popeye"
     toons that play on TNT and TBS are absolutely HIDEOUS! - but on the
     other hand he deserves a lengthy round of applause for his
     restorations of classic movies.

     Now if only he'd stop editing his Bugs Bunny cartoons!
---
  SLMR 2.1a  "Ad Nausaeum:" Commercials that make you puke.
--
Channel 1 (R)   Cambridge, MA

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From: mesora@leland.Stanford.EDU (Rose Adams)
Subject: Please help identify Canadian Lethal Virus Movie
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 18:44:49 GMT


I saw this request on one of my mailing lists and thought I would
forward it on to this newsgroup.  I'm drawing a blank on this one.
It would be apprciated if you would send the response to Keith Boettcher
at:
	sanjoboe@class.org
 
Thanks!

PLOT FOLLOWS:

We are trying to identify a movie remembered from about 1980.
Here is the plot:  A highly lethat virus excapes from an
experimental lab in Canada.  The first victim is a bird.  Some
children on a snowy playground bury the bird and it touching it,
start the spread of the disease.  A woman flees to the USA, not
realizing she is safe from the disease, but she is a carrier and
leaves death in her wake.  One stop she makes is at a fast-food
place that has just received an order for many sandwiches to be
delivered.  An employee touches the money she gives him and goes
on making sandwiches...

Can anyone identify the movie.  We've tried movie index sources
we know of, but hope someone's memory will help.  For all we
know, it might not be a theatrical release, but maybe a TV movie
or even an episode of a TV show.

end of forwarded message...

Cheers!




-- 
Rose M. Adams 				mesora@leland.stanford.edu
---<--<--<{@				A rose is a rose is rose
					(except when it is spelled backwards).
From: csroc@dime.prime.com (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Re: ** ULTIMATE CLASSIC MOVIE BABES ** Who?
Date: 20 Aug 92 14:52:02 GMT
Reply-To: csroc@dime.UUCP (Charles Sroczynski x4014 5-2)
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

>>>No. Let's forget Jodie Foster. She is a reasonably good actor,

Let's not forgot we're talking "BABES" in this thread.
Jodie is a good actress, but unless you have a radically
different definition of "babes" than I do...you should not
mention here in the same breath as Virginia Masden, Kathy Moriority(Raging BULL)Marilyn Monroe, Michelle Pheiffer, etc.  Jodie is Not a Babe.
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Best War Movies?
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:49:29 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <PAT.92Aug10154808@laho.kau.vtt.fi>, pat@laho.kau.vtt.fi 
(Pasi Antero Tervonen) writes:
 
>  I have seen you guys talking about war movies, but I haven't seen
> a word of movie: Full Metal Jacket. Isn't that war movie, or what?

I don't know about everyone else, but the reason *I* wouldn't mention
it isn't because it's not a war movie (it certainly is) it's because
I couldn't stand the last half of it!  

> I think it's the best war movie ever made (IMHO). Ok, there might
> be betters, but I don't like war or war movies so I haven't seen many
> of them. But I liked FMJ.

The training sequences were excellent, very brutal and frank.  But as soon
as Kubrick took us to Vietnam he lost me.  All the slow motion, the 
predictable deaths...it didn't work for me at all.

I'll take _Platoon_ and _Apocalypse Now_ any day over _Full Metal Jacket_...

Greg Bole                         "We spend too much time thinking about the
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu       end of the world.  It isn't going to happen.
                                   ...today...I promise it.  Not before lunch."
                                        Alan Rickman in _Close My Eyes_
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart)
Subject: Re: Bruce Lee's son?
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 21:30:23 GMT

In article <twong.05z8@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca> twong@nucleus.cuc.ab.ca (Thomas Wong) writes:
>Now this could be interesting... Brandon Lee (which I assume is son of Bruce
>Lee) is staring in his own movie due out soon.. The trailers look interesting
>if you're into these type of movies. 
> 
>I wonder if he's as gifted(?) as his father.. charisma and physique-wise..
> 

Gifted as a martial artist?  No.  Charisma?  Seems intelligent.
Physique?  Appears bigger but not as ripped.  Certainly adequate
in most ways.  He might end up being fairly successful.

GMS
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Pet Sematary II
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Distribution: rec.arts.movies
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 15:42:59 GMT

In article <1992Aug21.121446.29437@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ren@Turing.ORG (Karen Prestemon) writes:
>I was driving in morning traffic yesterday, when I happened to see a bus
>with a poster on its side advertising "Pet Sematary II."  The opening date
>was August, but I couldn't see exactly when.
>
>I never saw the first film, but I did read the book, and I want to know how
>they are continuing the plot, or if the plot of this new film is totally
>different?

The first film "used up" all the plot of the book.  From trailers, and
from comments made by Stephen King and others, "Pet Semetary II" seems
to be largely a rehash of the plot from the first film.  One difference
would appear to be that, in the first film, a father unwisely brings
a pet and family members back from the dead.  In this version, it looks
like a teenaged son (Edward Furlong, in his first film since "Terminator
2") is the one messing around with things humans weren't meant to know.
The other big twist seems to be that the resurrected pet is a dog, rather
than a cat.  Where do these Hollywood writers get these amazing ideas?

This film, along with "The Lawnmower Man", has apparently really pissed
Stephen King off.  As a result, expect him to be much more careful about
movie sales in the future than he has been in the past.  That's good news
for filmgoers, since it appears that you can only make a good Stephen
King movie if your name is Rob Reiner or Brian De Palma.  (Or, arguably,
Stanley Kubrick.)  Many people who had other names have burdened us with
their attempts in the past.  Perhaps fewer of them will, in the future.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

Organization: Engineering and Public Policy, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 21:11:35 -0400 
From: Daniel Read <dr3u+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Unforgiven ***SPOILERS***


Previous post:

  Nope, sorry, the horse has been used to plow and maybe pull a
  buckboard, but it apparently was Munny's horse before his late
  wife tamed him down.  The boy mentioned it and Munny gave one of
  his "sermons" about how the horse was getting even with him for
  the times he abused it.

Response:

Munny's farm horse was not the same one(s) he used to abuse.  He merely
states that this horse is treating him like that because of the way he
used to treat animals in general.  Remember that Munny is quite mad, he
is having hallucinations and believes that his wife is overseeing his
children.  To believe that one animal is getting revenge on him for the
way he treated other animals is really quite routine.

Another previous remark:


>>after being incompentant throughout most of the movie, Eastwood manages
>>to get it together to single handedly outgun the sheriff (Hackman) 
>>and about 10 deputies.

Response:

Munny's previous "competence" (if you will) always followed prodigious
whiskey consumption -- in fact, this point is made MANY times in the
film.  The needed state of drunkenness was only achieved in these final
moments.  The whiskey bottle being thrown into the mud when Munny rides
toward the saloon for his showdown  underscores this point.  In this
regard, Munny is a Jekyll/Hyde character (with whiskey substituting for
Jekyll's concoction).

daniel
From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: unforgiven (1 of 3)
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:45:37 GMT
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Distribution: rec

In article <1992Aug15.1489.26257@channel1> eric.walker@channel1.com  
(eric walker) writes:
>           But seemingly from out of nowhere, Kevin Costner pulled  
off the
>      coup of the decade with "Dances With Wolves."  

You missed one major landmark in the history of Westerns: 
Lonesome Dove.  Though a TV movie and thus not directly 
comparable in terms of audience, it drew a huge audience
share and was critically very well receieved.  

--
Jim Mann            
Stratus Computer   jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
From: cass@netcom.com (Diana Tenery-Fisher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Freshman Smarm - Less Than Zero?
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:33:05 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest)

cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen) writes:


>Maureen Wilkes writes:

>>"Less Than Zero" was in the Critic's Choice display at my local video
>>outlet.  I'd assumed it was vacuous teenage tripe about roughing it in
>>daddy's Beverly Hills mansion, but now I'm wondering........was it
>>critically acclaimed?  Was it more than just another fast cars/fast babes
>>teen flick?

>No and yes. Actually, the film received wildly mixed reviews from
>critics. But it definitely is more than just another "fast cars/
>fast babes" teen flick. Unfortunately all the elements of the
>film don't work as a whole. The leads (played by Andrew Mcarthy
>and "what's her name") are unconvincing, but Robert Downey, Jr.

What's her name is Jami Gertz (Lost Boys, Listen to Me)

>gives a stellar performance as a drug addict. His moments of
>love, humor, remorse and desparation save the film from
>complete mediocrity. There are moments of insight, but in the
>whole I couldn't help but feel like I was watching a feature-
>length music video, complete with needless sex scenes set to
>music with no purpose other than to titillate. When the film
>focused on Downey's character, it was on the mark. But many of
>the other characters just didn't ring true. Still, I wouldn't  
>lump it in the category of "fast cars/fast babes". It's worth
>a look if you haven't seen it. But please rent the video, do not
>see it as it was shown recently on syndicated television (with
>big, major cuts).


>Mark B. Bendiksen
>cb366@freenet.cwru.edu

>P.S. Another chilling and effective role in the film was the
>     drug dealer, played by ???????. Someone help me, I have
>     a mental blank. I know the actor played in _Pretty in
>     Pink_, _Jack's Back_, _Bad Influence_, and others. But
>     I can't recall his name. Oh yeah, he was also the weirdo
>     in _Sex, Lies, and Videotape_. Damn, what's his name?

James Spader (he did 3 movies back to back with Andrew McCarthy,
PrettyIn Pink, Less Than Zero and Mannequin... most recently he 
was in True Colors with John Cusack)

>-- 
>"If we don't get some cool rules ourselves, pronto,
> We'll just be bogus, too."-- Dr. Jeff Spicolli
From: boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com (Three days and a wake-up...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: What makes a movie good (*LONG*)(was: Re: why i watch movies)
Date: 20 Aug 92 06:22:29 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation

In article <1992Aug19.172142.4420@nic.umass.edu>, a0s5108@titan.ucc.umass.edu (Neal and Mara Priestly) writes...

} Another Criteria for the film to be considered good is the ability to
} care for the characters, which generally flows from good characterization.
} In this I felt that Empire was the best of the _Star Wars_ films,  I
} could put myself in Luke's shoes as he fought against himself while 
} dueling with Vader/Anakin before the emperor.

Sorry to tell you this, but this fight scene was in RETURN OF THE JEDI,
not THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK.

} Hitchcock's _Arabesque_ (sp?) was an even better example for me.

Spelling is right, director is not. Stanley Donen made ARABESQUE, not
Hitch.

-- 

	"She's my radiation baby.
	 She's my teenage fallout girl."

--- jayembee (Jerry Boyajian, DEC, "The Mill", Maynard, MA)

    boyajian@ruby.enet.dec.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: agc@cci632.cci.com (Anupama Chathampally - co-op)
Subject: Re: Woody Allen / Mia Farrow
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 16:18:05 GMT

>
>Actually,Soon-Yi is a good looking nice developed young female.
>I would get attracted to her too if I was hanging out with a bitch like
>Mia who will stop at nothing to get the custody of the kids.
>She'll probably do the tabloid TV circuit and TV talk show route any
>second now.
> 

Mia Farrow has always guarded her privacy just as closely as Woody Allen.
Besides, he is the one filing the custody suit and not her. So he is the one
who started this whole scandal.  I think that him wanting custody of the kids
is utterly ridiculous. He has stated several times that his work comes before 
everything and that he has no time to be a parent in the conventional way.
Also, all of Mia's kids are a family, ripping away three of the children from
their home and siblings is not in the best interest of the kids.  I don't know
what is going on in Allen's mind but I doubt he has their best interest in mind.And what basis do you have for characterizing Mia Farrow  as a b***h ??  Do
you have the courage to adopt children no one else wants???
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: dogar@rtsg.mot.com (Haroon H. Dogar)
Subject: Re: Manon of the Spring (was something really stupid)
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 21:13:31 GMT

lishka@dxcern.cern.ch (Christopher Lishka) writes:

>Before we start doing a lot of U.S.-bashing, please realize that
>renaming films is a practice over here in Europe as well.  For
>example, in French-Switzerland and France _Batman Returns_ is called
>_Batman, Le Defi_ (translation: "Batman, the Challenge").  Similarily,
>_Twin Peaks: Fire Walk With Me_ is called (in translation) "Twin
>Peaks: the Last Seven Days of Laura Palmer".  Apparently the Japanese
>version uses the latter title as well.

Also, some film titles are translated in the U.K.
Eg. One film title translated from American to whatever language it is
that they speak in the U.K. is "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles." :-)

-hd
wasting bandwidth as usual
From: rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu (Jeff Bytof)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Do the Aliens come from EARTH?
Date: 20 Aug 1992 22:52:04 GMT
Organization: sio
NNTP-Posting-Host: lutherlab.ucsd.edu

>Sorry to say, but you are suffering from what is commonly
>called a fixed idea.  A classic symptom is that you take something
>that is not corroborated by even a shred of evidence...

I am fascinated by the thought that there might be a really diabolical side
of the Company that we haven't seen yet.  One of the possibilities
was the situation proposed.  The fact that Alien^3 runs off
in such an off-beat direction is evidence that you're correct about
the lack of a "secret plot" guiding the Alien movie makers to a 
final, astounding conclusion - which should have come in Alien^3. 
I haven't seen the film yet, but read the book - and was severely
dissapointed.  

I have tried to develop an interesting scenerio dealing
with the question of where the Aliens, Elephant and Flying U
might have come from.  Realizing that we see only a small speck of
that universe of fiction, and that there is so much ground to cover,
it really bothers me that we ended up where we were in film #1: 
running around in corridors, chased by an anonymous alien.

Talk about "fixed ideas"!  

Jeff Bytof
rabjab@golem.ucsd.edu
 
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