HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mrichey@mothra.nts.uci.edu (Mike Richey)
Subject: Re: Pictures of Bear?
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 12 Nov 92 23:36:05 GMT

In article <1992Nov11.210143.21779@pellns.alleg.edu> dblackbu@alleg.edu (Dave Blackburn) writes:
>In article <1992Nov11.093441.14130@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> Chris Stimac  
><stimac@eckerd.edu> writes:
>|Are there any pictures of Bear (Owsley) out there?  I've never seen a photo  
>of him in any of the literature (Book O'Dead, Book O'DeadHeads, etc...).  I  
>was listening to some '69 tune up banter in which the boyz were having  
>problems with their monitors (which seems to be the case on every other tape  
>from that period) and I realized I had no clue as to what Bear looks like.   
>Isn't anybody else out there losing sleep over this? ;)
>|"Bear, I can't tell you how almost better that sounds..."
>|CRS
>|stimac@eckerd.edu
>|A fractal is a set whose Hausdorff dimension strictly exceeds its topological  
>dimension.
>
>No, there are no pictures of Bear. He does not show up on film, as a tragic  
>result of too much interdimensional vacationing 25 or 30 years ago. For  
>similar reasons, he also doesn't reflect in mirrors (like vampires, etc.) He  
>doesn't show up too well in person either, which is IMHO a good thing because  
>without a mirror he never can comb his hair properly. 
>
>This has some relation to why whenever you hear about Bear on old tapes,  
>someone is always yelling at him to fix the monitors or something. Sounds just  
>fine where *he* is.
>


There is a picture of Bear in a book called _The Dead - Volume I_.
This book is not a book about the Grateful Dead, but book about events
leading up tp the Summer of 1967 (the so called "Summer of Love"). It
has many references about the people who are in the band now, and how
they got where they're at. It also tells about the many relationships
with other people. It's an interesting book. There are two pictures of
Bear that I remember, one a photograph, and one a picture from the
newspaper after his arrest in 1972 (?) for producing LSD. Check this
book out, it really is good reading. I hear there is a Volume II out
as well. Haven't seen it yet.
From: fish@clubzen.fidonet.org (Rob Fish)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Sharing moments waiting in line like old friends
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 09:30:28 PST
Organization: Club Zen BBS - (Clan Zen Relay Network) Mountain View, CA

The crisp cool breeze catches your breath as you share smiles all around
you in line with another one waiting for the BIG PUSH.  "You trade tapes?"
you ask another person nearby.  "Yea" he or she says and you smile.
Suddenly, the line all moves at once.  It's a little warmer like this and
the excitement has gone off the scale for the first time this afternoon.
More smiles now and the crowd noise has also moved up an order of
magnitude.  "Burr!" Your friend breathes into your ear.  "So there you
are!  I was wondering if you'd find me in time..."

I can't wait to find myself there again.  For me, it will be at Oakland.
A hat, coat, and warm pants for waiting outside despite being in CA is
usually still a good idea.  Shorts for dancing is still a must though.

Thinking about having a taping party (DAT and analog) sometime soon here
in Mountain View.  Perhaps on the 5th or 6th; more on possibilities later.

That's all for now...  Burrrr?  I can't wait.  :)  <><

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Rob Fish -> (fish@clubzen.fidonet.org)
From: GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: HACK
Date: 10 Nov 92 04:17:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: uvaarpa.1992Nov10.041719.3666
Reply-To: GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet
Organization: The Internet


        At first, after reading that sick post, I wanted to whip oput

the old chain saw.  But I got to thinking.  Either this is a joke from
a helplessly lame comedian, or the person truely has severe mental problems.
A bad joke should be ignored, and the sick should be cured.  Since it is
not my job to heal the seriously mentally ill, then in either case I should
ignore him.  Ain't no tome to hate...
If, on the other hand, he keeps it up without sufficient ODC, then perhaps
action would be warrented.  Lord knows, there are more net.nasty people
than needed to make him wish he posted this to comp.sys.vax, or some other
horrible place...
:-)  :-)   Lone Wolf Gladstone(d)>
P.S.  Proofreader needed, inquire within <:-|
From: cdpst@cislabs.pitt.edu (Christophe D Piccolo)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: PITTSBURGH AREA
Date: 7 Nov 92 06:58:37 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

In article <1992Nov6.183730.21357@ultb.isc.rit.edu> jpf8360@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>
>in response to the boyz playin' at star lake again.  sorry but its just not
>gonna happen. :-(  

Oh, I dunno, local radio and TV reports talked to the promoter, and
he said the dead were by no means banned, and could be invited
back next (1993) year...

>the first show tons of people jumped the fence to the right
>right of the stage and behind it.  a bunch of people got hurt. including 

Not to mention the folks jumping over right by the right side ticket
gate, goin over the barbed wire looked painful, then coming back
to the fence to pass their ticket back out...so others could
get in...

>some law enforcement officers.  both the people at the ampitheatre, and
>the dead and their crew were really bummed that this happened. but, its
>not like we haven't ruined them playin' other cool places before.  i 
>                                               8^}   phred

Also from the radio/tv interviews, the promoter was saying the reason
the state police were called the second night, is that folks outside
were chucking rocks at security inside...I've heard of starting the
NFA clap to try and influence song selection, but does anyone 
need to hear Throwin that bad ? :-)

Civac arena shows in spring would be hideous, I'd much rather trek
on up to Richfield, or down to WVU(i heard they've played Morgantown 
(heck, i just picked up Deadbase, i'll look it up when i get home...))

So dont write off Dark Star Lake just yet folkes...

Peace
Chris
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From: MATT HARGROVE <HARCM%RHODES.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu>
Subject: Oakland Grovel and Golden Road
Reply-To: HARCM%RHODES.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 23:31:42 GMT


My last final for Fall semester is Dec. 14 and my fellow Heads at Rhodes are
planning a pilgrimage to Oakland for the 16 and 17 shows. i was unable to mail
order because i learned of the shows a day late. If anyone can help me out,
i am looking for two tickets to both nights for myself and a kind friend.
Thanks for your help.

Also, because i am DeadBase-less, can someone tell me if Golden Road was played
more than once. i got a tape with a section of the Muir Beach '67 that has it
with an incredible Caboose and Alligator.


                                                Matt Hargrove
From: gph@mdi.gwinnett.com (Greg P. Hershinow)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Dead sighting
Date: 4 Nov 92 18:48:26 GMT
Article-I.D.: mdi.1992Nov4.184826.1457
Distribution: usa
Organization: Majure Data Inc., Roswell GA

Did anyone see the Ch. 5 news on Monday?  They had a special report on "LSD,
why it is coming back and the Grateful Dead connection".  :(  All the boys
need is some more bad PR.

				Greg

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Subject: Re: Phosphor dots, eh?
From: <MAH76X@rohvm1.rohmhaas.com>
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 16:12:45 EST
Organization: Rohm and Haas Company

In article <BxKIs5.1rL@well.sf.ca.us>, tnf@well.sf.ca.us (David Gans) says:
>This is where you and I diverge.  The value of this net is in the connections
>made by real people.  I've seen a lot of damage done by people who pretend
>it's nothing but ones and zeroes.

Maybe Joe Hack is taking his turn teaching us something David.  Maybe he's
teaching us all to think.  Maybe we, as a group, need it.  Thanks Joe!


Joe Doheny
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jpf8360@ritvax.isc.rit.edu (grateful phred)
Subject: PITTSBURGH AREA
Reply-To: jpf8360@ritvax.isc.rit.edu
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:37:30 GMT


in response to the boyz playin' at star lake again.  sorry but its just not
gonna happen. :-(  the first show tons of people jumped the fence to the right
right of the stage and behind it.  a bunch of people got hurt. including 
some law enforcement officers.  both the people at the ampitheatre, and
the dead and their crew were really bummed that this happened. but, its
not like we haven't ruined them playin' other cool places before.  i 
was chatting with the head security dude ' Rick '  after the run and
he said they will never play there again. sucks, but that what happens
when you go from places like gaints, and RFK to little dark star lake..
with thousands of ticketless heads to boot.

                   just my .02 cents.

                                               8^}   phred

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tomas@leland.Stanford.EDU (Thomas J. Monica)
Subject: Re: Miserable netheads {)=+)
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 92 19:27:43 GMT

In article <184213@pyramid.pyramid.com> glambert@pyramid.com (George Lambert) writes:
>In article <1dpf2eINNget@morrow.stanford.edu> EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara) writes:
>>
>> ... and the fact that i'm not on this list ... does it mean that
>>i'm not really a .net.goddess after all?  i shall go slash my
>>monitor cable, farewell, cruel world !
>>
>
>If I may be so bold, Lara...
>
>For your consistency in providing good will, good vibes, and for your constant
>execution of healing energies, I hereby nominate you to the exalted position
>of net.goddess!
>

Must be weeks since I've seen a post that I wanted to respond to. Are you all
that bored that you need the J. Hack thread?

Well, point is, I second the nomination!

t


-- 
Porpise: run, bike, swim, make cookies


"long distance runner, what you holding out for?"
From: bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (D. Eric Nay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: TOUR DATE RUMOR. HAS ANYONE ELSE HEARD THIS??
Date: 6 Nov 1992 00:37:59 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Crist no, lets hope not! Starlake over anywhere in the Pitt anydday.!
-- 
It left a smoking crater of my mind I'd like to blown away
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From: Mark Sedran <mps1@cornell.edu>
Subject: Tape grovel
Reply-To: mps1@cornell.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1992 03:24:16 GMT

Did the dead play on 7/31/74?
Does anybody have a tape of the show if they did?
This is the day I was born and I think it would be cool to have my birthday
concert.  Also 7/31/84 or any other 7/31 would be cool to have.
Thanx,
mark sedran
mps1@cornell.edu

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From: Geoffrey Bradshaw <RFEATHER@macc.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: Witches ...For Jesus
Reply-To: RFEATHER@macc.wisc.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 20:08:41 GMT

|sighted two stckers side by side:
| GRATEFUL DEAD     BUSH QUALE '92
 
"Saw a Deadhead sticker on a cadilack,
        Little voice inside me said don't look back..."
 
 
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: tjreynol@zephyr.cair.du.edu (five left and cut!)
Subject: Re: Joe Hack Situation (no ODC)
Keywords: joe hack
Organization: University of Denver
Date: Sat, 14 Nov 92 04:57:40 GMT

sorry folk,s but this group has got to be among the lamest on the net.

good day.
From: bs810@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (D. Eric Nay)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: NEWBIE
Date: 12 Nov 1992 03:57:45 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


Welcome! :-) Computers are your friend....ya know its gonna get stranger.
Have fun.
-- 
It left a smoking crater of my mind I'd like to blown away
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From: Brian Jeffrey Cook <bjpc@engin.umich.edu>
Subject: lyrics needed for corinna and LLway to go home // CARNIEGE MELON INFO??
Reply-To: bjpc@engin.umich.edu
Organization: The Internet
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 17:26:51 GMT

good day, i am sitting here listening to 3/21/92 hamilton II and i was
trying to figure out the lyrics to LLway to go home and corinna.
i was just wondering if someone could send them to me.  it would be mighty
kind and i would be most appreciative!!!

also info needed about a student at carniege mellon universirty, so if anybody
there would contact me.  thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!

peace...bjpc

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: epenzer@csws3.ic.sunysb.edu ()
Subject: John Prine Live Tapes?
Originator: epenzer@csws3.ic.sunysb.edu
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 16:17:12 GMT

Hi All,

Don't want to waste too much space here, but does anyone have any live
tapes by John Prine.  The guy is great, and I can't seem to find anything.
I have lots to trade (1100+ hours Dead, Spin Docs, Traveler, etc).  Any
response welcome.

Thanx, Eric.

Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
From: jasolomo@rodan.acs.syr.edu (Joshua A. Solomon)
Subject: Scarlet Begonias
Keywords: Fear #19
Organization: Syracuse University, Syracuse, NY
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 92 20:59:32 EST

Reading Steve Gerber's Fear #19 (Dec 1973) last night,
I noticed something strange in the letters page.
A fan asks him if he's "run into" any of a list of fictional characters.
Steve replys that he is only familiar with one listed,
and then asks if "Ruby Begonia" rings a bell.
Now, It wouldn't surprise me if the creator of Howard The Duck
is a deadhead, but how could he come up with with "Ruby Begonia"
6 months before "Scarlet Begonias" was debuted in March 1974 at the 
Cow Palace?  (I believe that December comic books are printed in September.)
Had the Dead been practicing it for that long, or 
do "Ruby Begonia" and "Scarlet Begonias" both refer to something
which I don't know about?
COMPULSORY TAPE GROVEL: Said Cow Palace show had some great moments.
Does anyone have a low-gen soundboard they'd like to trade?
I have plenty of good stuff.
js
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From: redfreak@softcopy.ecn.purdue.edu (Thomas Lobonc)
Subject: Re: Joe Hack,   Al Gore,  Tipper and Frank Zappa,  et al.
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 15:35:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov13.022657.13903@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU> GLADSTONE@csmcmvax.bitnet writes:
>        While on the subjuct of FZ, one thing some of my friends and I have
>noticed:  after leaving a Dead show we are on cloud nine.  Turning on the
>radio and listening to any other sort of MuZak actually proves painful
>to the ears and mind.  One consistent exception is FZ.  He seems to be
>very listenable after a show.  A question for youall in netland.  What
>sounds can you tolerate right after a show?  ( GD excepted, of course )

I remember one time coming back from a Jerry show. "You tell me when I need
to turn (negotiating the Chicago area highways), and I'll just keep the car
between the lines", I said to my front seat passenger. The only thing that
kept us going was a classic rock station (WCKG). I remember some Floyd, but
little else.  It was weird, because the tune selection that night was much
better than usual.  We felt that they were playing songs for us, to help
get us home. I don't know if we would have made it home without this good
karma after that particularly harrowing day.

Actually, the LAST thing I want to hear after a show is Dead. It seems like
such a letdown to hear a tape right after seeing the real thing.  Besides,
after Dead on the way to the show and in the lot all day, it gets old!
AAAAGGHHH!  Sacriledge!  I'll never get to be on the wheel now!  I like
LOTS of different music, and too much of anything is a bummer.  Favorite
after show music:  Good thrash, like Slayer or Sepultura, or nice mellow
stuff like early Moodies or Floyd, depending on my mood.

redfreak

>Shutup and play yer guitar!!!
>Joe Lone Wolf Gladstone>  <GLADSTONE@CSMCMVAX.BITNET>



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From: jwallace@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Jesse William Wallace)
Subject: GREATFUL DEAD???
Organization: San Francisco State University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 05:42:57 GMT

I'd be GREATFUL if TIMOTHY JOHN HIGNETT were DEAD!!!

 Login name: vcsc453   			In real life: Timothy John Hignett
 Office: Thorton Hal, 555-1212		Home phone: 928 3998
 Directory: /usr/s2/vcsc453          	Shell: /bin/csh
 Last login Thu Nov  5 15:50 on ttyq9 from hydra.sfsu.edu
 Project: "lootin', pillagin' and plunderin'"
 Plan:
 To figure out if the stars where created or did they just "happen".

:-)   <---(not a flame by Hodge's definition!!!)
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From: goldhamm@spot.Colorado.EDU (Dave Goldhammer)
Subject: One more try (Denver trade)
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 18:22:35 GMT


Hello everyone! Does anyone out there have 1-3 tickets for the second night in
Denver that they might want to trade for first night tickets? Or just sell?
My first show tickets are really bad seats, upper level behind the stage, I
believe... Anyway, if anyone can help out that would be GREAT!!! thanks,

	-Dave
	 goldhamm@spo.Colorado.EDU
From: berger@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu (Daniel Berger)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Deadbase question
Date: 5 Nov 1992 21:28:51 GMT
Organization: School of Education, U.C. Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: dewey.soe.berkeley.edu
Originator: berger@dewey.soe.berkeley.edu

Is there a phone number or email address to contact the Deadbase people?

Thanks
dhb
From: klp@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Kevin Prigge)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Wharf Rats?
Date: 10 Nov 92 19:05:01 GMT
Organization: People-Net [pnet51], Minneapolis, MN.

I'm looking for some Wharf Rats that're going to both Denver & Tempe. Drop me
a note.
 - Kevin

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From: dblackbu@alleg.edu (Dave Blackburn)
Subject: Re: gd in r.s. record gde (long)ish)
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 02:10:07 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.225824.2462@samba.oit.unc.edu>  
Jeffrey.Hale@launchpad.unc.edu (Jeffrey Hale) writes:
|From Rolling Stone Album Guide (1992 edition), completely and absolutely
|sans permission . . .
|
|"
|GRATEFUL DEAD
|**1/2    Grateful Dead
|***      Anthem of the Sun
|***      Aoxomoxoa
|****     Live Dead
|*****    Workingman's Dead
|*****    American Beauty
|***      The Grateful Dead
|***      Europe '72
|***      History of the Grateful Dead, Vol. 1 - Bear's Choice
|***      Wake of the Flood
|****     Best of the Grateful Dead - Skeletons from the Closet
|***      Grateful Dead from the Mars Hotel
|***      Blues for Allah
|**       Steal Your Face
|***1/2   Terrapin Station
|****     What A Long Strange Trip It's Been
|**       Shakedown Street
|****     Grateful Dead Go to Heaven
|***      Dead Reckoning
|****     Dead Set
|****     In the Dark
|***      Built to Last
|***1/2   Without A Net
|
(review text deleted)
Interesting. I have the 1977 edition, in which NO dead album gaot above a ***
rating. So I guess Live, Workingman's, and Am. Beauty have gotten better.  
(don't remember the old rankings offhand) But who could possibly give "Dead  
Set" and "In the Dark" a better rating than "Reckoning" and "W/O a Net"?   
(****1/2 and ***** respectively IMHO) And many other differences as well.... 

--

* Dave Blackburn  dblackbu@alleg.edu  flames to self@home.dev.null *          
* Chemistry, Macs, Hypercard, cats,  <>< religion, & the Dead      *
* (Anyone else who held these opinions would be as crazy as I am.) *
*   "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own"   *
From: EP.LLD@forsythe.stanford.edu (Lara)
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Subject: Re: Miserable netheads {)=+)
Date: 10 Nov 1992 15:02:38 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: morrow.stanford.edu

In article <1992Nov10.195945.26750@uvaarpa.Virginia.EDU>,
Steve -- The Other One <sjeck@isi.com> writes:
> bz206@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joseph Hack) writes:
>
>|Ever notice that the more pissed someone gets, the worse their spelling gets?
>|Well, thats all folks.  I'll keep you up to date on the other spew
>|that fills my box, as sure as I can predict you guys, I predict you
>|will continue to fill my box for my sheer reading pleasure.
>
>i am still laughing!  thanks for sharing Joe.  nice to know there
>is another Prankster here.  these guys have no "cool" to test though.
>
>you think that's bad, you should threaten to expose there secret
>Mailing List where they sit around and say what DICKs and DACKs
>we are over here on rec.music.gdead/Dead-Flames.  that's right
>kids, that's what the revered Elders think of you.

 ... aaah, yes, the revered Elders, net.gods with rg58 of clay :)

 ... and it probably wouldn't even make good reading, now, would it?
i'm waiting for somebody to post a list of the names of people on
it.  wouldn't that be fun?

 ... you suppose the same thing happens in an exclusive .net.list
when people with varying opinions are excluded, as happens when you
have a small and restricted gene pool ... inbreeding and mutations?

 ... and the fact that i'm not on this list ... does it mean that
i'm not really a .net.goddess after all?  i shall go slash my
monitor cable, farewell, cruel world !

>
>
>Steve-TOO

lara-me
-<-@
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From: dblackbu@alleg.edu (Dave Blackburn)
Subject: Re: Revisiting the Dolby Nightmare (lightly technical)
Organization: Allegheny College
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 02:55:02 GMT

In article <1992Nov9.215012.3533@col.hp.com> rstern@col.hp.com (Richard Stern)  
writes:
|Oh God, I shouldn't be doing this, but ...
|
|
|Why do we have to go through this discussion at least twice every year??
|
|Richard Stern
|rstern@col.hp.com

Because it's not in the FAQ, that's why. (p'raps it ought to be???)
--

* Dave Blackburn  dblackbu@alleg.edu  flames to self@home.dev.null *          
* Chemistry, Macs, Hypercard, cats,  <>< religion, & the Dead      *
* (Anyone else who held these opinions would be as crazy as I am.) *
*   "Sometimes the songs that we hear are just songs of our own"   *
From: jko@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU
Subject: Tempe for Denver TAPING tix
Newsgroups: rec.music.gdead
Date: 7 Nov 92 18:08:45 GMT



Hi Y'all!

My friend has extra TEMPE tickets and is specifically looking for
DENVER taping tickets.  If anyone wants to trade their extra DENVER
taping ticket for TEMPE tickets, please email me so I can give you
his phone number.  He is located out in Newport Beach, CA.

BTW- In case anyone's wondering, at TEMPE, the taping section will
     be in the general admission area.

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