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From: tdbear@dvorak.amd.com (Thomas D. Barrett)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Austin, TX joins Colo. Boycott
Date: 9 Jan 93 19:54:35 GMT
Organization: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc.; Austin, Texas


Below is the text of the Resolution by the City of Austin (Texas) to
limit travel to the State of Colorado and a couple of cities...

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RESOLUTION (City of Austin)

  WHEREAS, the State of Colorado has passed a constitutional amendment that 
prohibits the passage of and enforcement of laws and ordinances that  would 
protect an individual's civil rights based on their sexual orientation; and

  WHEREAS, the civil rights laws of the cities of Denver, Aspen, and  other 
Colorado cities are affected by this amendment; and

  WHEREAS,  the voters of the cities of Springfield, Oregon;  and  Concord, 
California; have passed a similar charter amendment; and

  WHEREAS, the passage of such laws support discrimination toward a segment 
of society and put the civil rights of all people in jeopardy; and 

  WHEREAS,  it is incumbent on all to stand up against affirmative  hatred, 
be  it  aimed at a person because of his or her sexual  orientation,  race, 
color, sex, national origin, religion or condition; and

  WHEREAS,  it  is the intent of the City of Austin to  oppose  affirmative 
hatred; NOW, THEREFORE,

BE IT RESOLVED BY THE CITY COUNCIL OF THE CITY OF AUSTIN:

  That  no City funds shall be expended for employee travel to or from  the 
state of Colorado, or the cities of Springfield, Oregon; or Concord,  Cali-
fornia.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:

  That  the  City Manager be authorized to make exceptions to  this  policy 
when she/he finds that the interest of the City cannot be furthered  except 
by travel to the above-listed state or cities.

BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED:

  That  the City Clerk is hereby ordered and directed to  send  appropriate 
copies  of  this Resolution to the Governor of Colorado and the  Mayors  of 
Springfield, Oregon; and Concord, California.



ADOPTED: [written] December 17, 1992 ATTEST: [signed]
                                             Betty G. Brown, Deputy, for
                                             James E. Aldridge, City Clerk

17DEC92
CEG/sja/1263


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From: joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: crabs (was Re: Changing standards of female beauty)
Date: 6 Jan 93 16:45:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan6.164507.18654
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <6JAN93.15335404@enh.nist.gov> aberson@enh.nist.gov writes:
>In a previous article, joe@spdcc.com (Joseph Francis) wrote:
>>Fleas, however, definitely bite, and are a good reason not to have any
>>pet without a flea collar.
>
>Like flea collars actually work.  Right now I have three cats at home with
>fleas literally crawling on the collars.
>
>Last summer the fleas got so bad the dermatologist prescribed Kwell for
>me because he thought *I* was infested with fleas.
>
>And Precor is failing miserably, too.

Every time I've had a pet (dog,cat) inevitably fleas would come in the
house (polished hardwood floors or not). collar wasn't a complete
solution, but a pretty good one. Weekly, or monthly baths and house
bombs occasionally were warranted.
-- 
US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.
From: tachyon@cats.ucsc.edu (Tane' Tachyon)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: New Republic subscription letter
Date: 10 Jan 1993 09:27:42 GMT
Organization: Tachyon Labs
NNTP-Posting-Host: am.ucsc.edu


In article <1993Jan5.075659.25570@mic.ucla.edu> cjones@physci.ucla.edu (Chad Jones) writes:
>I got a letter from the New Republic yesterday wanting me to subscribe. 
>After opening it, I was about to toss it when I saw a second letter
>inside that had quotes from GLAAD, The Advocate, et al., praising it. 
>The letter was from Andrew Sullivan, praising himself and the magazine
>because he's openly gay, and what a great asset NR is to the gay
>community.  That was my inspiration to throw it into the recycling bin. 
>I guess the Advocate is selling its mailing list again.

Yeah, I got that one too.  But with all the mailing-list stuff I
get, the only surprise was that I only got one copy of it.  What
really puzzled me, though, was the "Playboy catalog for men and
the women they love" that I got in today's mail.  With that one
I truly have no idea where they would have gotten my name.  Some of
it is pretty funny ... there's a "Solutions for Ejaculatory Control"
video that looks like a can of Campbell's soup, for one minor thing.
And if a certain SoCal lurker is reading this ... these scammers
are trying to capitalize on your mystique by selling a "Big
Busted Goddesses of L.A." video!  :-)

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From: Furr@cup.portal.com (George Dalton Madison)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Different Strokes (was Re: Changing standards of female bea
Date: Fri,  8 Jan 93 19:14:29 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <72897@cup.portal.com> <C0JM7L.J45@unix.amherst.edu>

Tim Pierce writes:
>George, please put out your cigar.

That's the first time I've heard it phrased like that. Usually,
it's something like "Do you *have* to smoke that horrible thing
in here?!?" in a high-dudgeon voice... and not infrequently
accompanied by dramatic Bette Davis-like gestures with a lit
cigarette...(!)  My response to shrill rudeness is usually to
simply ignore it. [Arne is a rare exception. ;-{)##]

 
() If U can't take the smoke, get back to the disco....
()      -- BearBoy
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[> George D. Madison | NBCS: B8f+t+w-e+s+k+a!cv | Just say NO to razors! <]
[> It's a BEAR thing -- you wouldn't understand. <|> furr@cup.portal.com <]
From: msp@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu (Michael S. Pettersen)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Year of the Queer
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:53:35 EST
Organization: The Ohio State University, Department of Physics

In article <1993Jan11.184924.6267@psych.toronto.edu>, jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis) writes:

> ...but I respectfully submit that Pride Day means more
> than just commemorating Stonewall.  A lot has happened between then and
> now, things with which I identify more closely than Stonewall; these events
> are worthy of consideration too.

A good point, but that does not mean that Gay Pride Day
ceases to commemorate Stonewall as well.

> Further, while Stonewall was a pivotal event for North America, the
> effect was a little less significant in many other continents in the
> world.  IMHO, peoples who have never heard of Stonewall should perhaps
> be exempt from the blanket statement above.

I think Gay Pride was an American invention, born out of the black civil
rights efforts of the 1960's.  Europe has its own history of struggle,
of which I'm less aware than I'd like to be,
and it may in some respects be in advance of the US; but I would
be quite surprised to learn that any European city had something
analogous to Gay Pride Day before 1969.  Same for Australia and
NZ.  As for the other continents,
are there any Gay Pride events at all in Africa or Asia?

--

Mike Pettersen, Ecole Normale Superieure
msp@physique.ens.fr
Perfact love casteth out fear.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: kjc7435@ultb.isc.rit.edu (K.J. Cater)
Subject: HEY WOMYN!!!  Favorite Womyn's Perfume choices..
Originator: kjc7435@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:14:04 GMT

Hey---what about us womyn???   What is YOUR favorite perfume on a womon?
(ladies answer only please!!).  Me being the femme I am I have many many
perfumes, but my favorites on a woman are oil of jasmine, Intimate, and
Bijan...

myself I like wearing Pablo Picasso, Paris, Presence, Patou's Cocktail,
and Barbara Cartland's Love Wins....  among many others...


Best wishes for a happy new year!!!!

Miss Kerry Cater.
e-mail:"kjc7435@ritvax.isc.rit.edu".
From: dyer@spdcc.com (Steve Dyer)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Year of the Queer
Date: 11 Jan 93 23:23:20 GMT
Article-I.D.: spdcc.1993Jan11.232320.18999
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

After reading BBC's last article addressed to Brian Jarvis, I'm
convinced he can argue any point, just for the sheer pleasure of it,
as long as it gets his mind off his thesis.  Having more groff problems,
Bob?

This is a corollary to Jeff Dauber's rule about having bad days.

-- 
Steve Dyer
dyer@ursa-major.spdcc.com aka {ima,harvard,rayssd,linus,m2c}!spdcc!dyer
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: jarvis@psych.toronto.edu (Brian Jarvis)
Subject: Re: Should I be doing this?
Organization: Department of Psychology, University of Toronto
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:34:56 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.191639.9963@netcom.com> solovay@netcom.com (Andrew Solovay) writes:
>In article <C0oIun.D1J@agora.rain.com> bcapps@agora.rain.com (Brent Capps) writes:
>>mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) writes:
>>[discussing teasing and voyeurism]
>>>I have no trouble understanding why women might find this attitude
>>>annoying and/or disgusting.  It just never occurred to me until
>>>today that anyone might consider that I'm doing essentially the same
>>>thing.  [...]
>>
>>I don't think of soc.motss as queer-only space, just queer-supportive space.
>>As such you and your teasing are welcome anytime.
>
>Yeah, but isn't the Cabal supposed to be queer-only? They may have to
>take away Ms. Chibnik's membership card and decoder ring.

If Mara isn't definitive Cabal material, I can't imagine who would be.
Since meeting Mara so long ago I've always envisioned her as the quiet-
yet-all-powerful Chair of the Cabal board.  She may not say much (measured
in jessobytes of coures), but everyone listens when she does!

It's a pity the Cabal *definitely* *does* *not* *exist*; I wouldn't mind
serving under an organization run by Mara.

Brian
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jarvis@psych.toronto.edu  University of Toronto, Toronto, Ontario, Canada
System Administrator      M5S 1A1  (416) 978-3948
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: glp@fig.citib.com (Greg Parkinson)
Subject: Re: Nominations for best Men's cologne
Originator: glp@merlin
Organization: Citibank IBISM
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 14:54:16 GMT


In article <1993Jan6.162340.12182@midway.uchicago.edu>, cuzz@ellis.uchicago.edu (Laura Cuzzillo) writes:

|> I have a friend who eschews scents, deodorants, etc. and claims that 
|> the smell of sweat from physical exersion is different (and better) 
|> from the smell of sweat from stress or nervousness.  Sounds improbable
|> to me.  Does anyone else make this distinction?

I do.  I use a deodorant when I go to work because
when I encounter stressful situations, however brief,
I will develop an acrid odor quite different from
my normal aroma.  I don't like it and I doubt that 
most people who come in contact with me would like
it. 

When I get home from work or I'm going to the gym
I take a shower and wash it off.  I *like* the way
physical exertion or walking around in hot, humid
weather or serious hot sex in tropical climes makes
me smell.

-- 
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Citibank,111 Wall Street        E-Mail: glp@fig.citib.com
New York, New York  10043
The opinions expressed are my own and not those of the big 'ol bank.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: wood@siemens.com (Jim Wood)
Subject: Re: Is Dan Quayle a Twinkie?
Organization: Siemens Corporate Research, Princeton (Plainsboro), NJ
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:52:05 GMT

anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>In article <1993Jan11.130051.783@s1.gov> lip@s1.gov (Loren
>I.  Petrich) writes:

>>If Dan Quayle was gay, would he be a Twinkie? [...]

>>Even if he is not a Twinkie, he is certainly a male bimbo.

>I wasn't aware that "twink" conveyed any such notion of
>mental vacuity; I've taken it to be approximately the
>antonym of "bear," that is, a (body-) hairless (male)
>person.  If it isn't a term assigned by genetic accident,
>then it's a (negative) epithet that sensitive, caring people
>wouldn't use, right?

>Right?

I had discussed this particular issue extensively with Rob
Bernardo, and we both came to the conclusion that a "twink"
had characteristics defined both by physicality and personality.

The physical nature of the twink, as Jess stated above, is one
of a hairless, lean, and muscular (but not too muscular) male
who aspires towards feminine and currently fashionable ideals
of beauty.

The typical personality of a twink is one of "AFH:" an attitude
from hell, a notion of superiority that establishes a caste system
based on one's physical appearance where the ideal is the physical
nature of the twink stated above.
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Wil Wheaton at MacWorld!!!!!
Date: 12 Jan 1993 12:10:09 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <1993Jan12.193842.27995@gordian.com> 
mike@gordian.com (Michael A. Thomas) writes:
> In article <NFitch-130193110504@clinical-mac76-106.ucsd.edu>, 
> NFitch@UCSD.edu (Nick Fitch) writes:
> > Personally I'd rather spend the night with Wil Wheaton, an economy pack of
> > condoms and a bucket of warm Jell-o than with Arnie, Dolph and Jean-Claude
> > put together.|
>
>   Oh dear. Arne has been doubly jilted here, I see. How will he get
> over it?

Don't worry your pretty little head about it, Michael.  
Do you imagine *I* would be sorry to miss an evening
of slopping around with warm Jell-o?  Let Nick dream
on about this Wil Wheaton person.

Arnie and Dolph (the Adolphson twins)

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: TMCCART3@ua1vm.ua.edu (Tracey McCartney)
Subject: Musings on Madonna
Organization: Home of the @&#^%$* Crimson Tide
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 00:34:36 GMT

I'll probably forever regret this, but here goes:
 
Have aliens kidnapped Madonna and replaced her with a not-very-convincing
facsimile? For the first time in a *long* time, I actually watched and paid
attention to a Madonna video ("Deeper and Deeper," methinks), and I barely
recognized her. She does not look like the same writhing ragamuffin in the
"Borderline" video of ten years ago. Yeah, yeah, ten years is ten years.
But the change she has undergone is very strange, IMHO, and hard to artic-
ulate. So I'll stop trying.
 
Also, I had mused about the orientation of MTV vj Steve Isaacs (sp?), who
regularly wears LBGO*-positive t-shirts and threatens to force freedom
rings into the mainstream. Well, I don't think he's gay. I caught him
sneering at a report that some enterprising photog was selling nudie
photos of Madonna shot on the set of her new movie. Stevie said something
like, "Why would anyone want 'em?" Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't
all gay men programmed to speak of Madonna in hushed, reverent tones?
: ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : ) : )
 
Tracey
From: anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Maria Montez vs Burl Ives, or Lighten Up a Little, Folks
Date: 5 Jan 93 13:02:59 GMT
Organization: Madison Academic Computing Center, UW-Madison

In article <1993Jan5.121815.15239@infodev.cam.ac.uk>
Ralph.Becket@cl.cam.ac.uk writes:

>In article <1993Jan5.112023.5929@macc.wisc.edu>
>anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:

>>Reminds me: I'm still looking for the name of the trope in
>>which the thing named is an example of itself.

>The word is "ontological" and it's opposite is "heterological". For
                                 ^ tsk.
>example, "big" is heterological, whereas "word" is ontological. This
>leads to the interesting paradox as to whether the word "heterological"
>is heterological or ontological.

Hm.  Is there a corresponding noun, such that we can say his
remark was "an ontology?" I guess what I really need is the
noun that names an ontological trope.

Btw, I would have guessed, based on much evidence, that
"heterological" was something of a contradiction in terms.
:-)

>Just my tuppenyworth contribution.

When I was a kid, you could ride the streetcar for that.

-- 
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[Internet: anderson@macc.wisc.edu <-best, UUCP:{}!uwvax!macc.wisc.edu!anderson]
[Room 3130 <> 1210 West Dayton Street / Madison WI 53706 <> Phone 608/262-5888]
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Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren)
Subject: Re: For a limited time only
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:25:27 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.041312.20714@macc.wisc.edu>, anderson@macc.wisc.edu (Jess Anderson) writes:
> In article <1993Jan5.210205.16340@osf.org>
> coren@speed.osf.org (Robert Coren) writes:
> 
> >Which were the buffaloes doing, playing hockey or dancing the polka?
> 
> Really, Robert, you have to work harder than that if you
> expect to keep up with the times!

"Work harder"? Do I show any signs of doing anything one could call
"work" in this context?

>  They were watching
> television, obviously.

And television was watching them. An exciting evening all around.
From: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: A not-so-cheery coming out story
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 16:08:13 GMT
Reply-To: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca

In article <1993Jan11.193511.12374@quantime.co.uk> roger@quantime.co.uk  
(Roger Phillips) writes:
> In article <1993Jan11.023510.24076@Princeton.EDU>,
> spencer@ernie.princeton.edu (S. Spencer Sun) writes:
> > It's worse to have something (or think you have something)
> > and end up losing it, than never to have had it at all.
> 
> In this case, I disagree.
> In the short term, it may appear that the loss is worse
> than the never-having(-thought-one)-had,
> but I'd hope that from the experience one would learn
> better to identify what one has.

Agreed; this is an absurd attitude. Everything - EVERYTHING - we have now  
will one day be lost. Our ability to earn a living, our lovers, our  
health, our mental acuity, and eventually, our lives. If you don't want to  
lose anything, better jump off a bridge right now and make sure you die  
with all your most cherished posessions.

Having a long term relationship with an HIV+ man has taught me that  
posession is a cruel hoax, and that the things we value in our lives are  
not valuable for their permanence, but for their ability to give us  
pleasure for today and experience for tomorrow. 

Every loss has as a necessary prerequisite the possession of something  
wonderful. The posession of something wonderful has as an inevitable  
consequence its loss. If you don't have loss, you have nothing.

-Anthony

Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Year of the Queer
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:59:48 GMT

rogerk@queernet.org (Roger B.A. Klorese) wrote: 
->If you wish to have a local Homo Happiness Party some other time, do so.

in fact, many do: sydneysiders have this thing called the "mardi gras"
... i'm sure some of you have heard of it ... they have their homo
happiness party in february.

->The time of year was chosen to commemorate Stonewall, and I believe one
->simultaneous show of numbers, in every city in the world, is what we need
->to do so.

what he said.  

--
# henry mensch / booz, allen & hamilton, inc.  / <henry@ads.com>
# "fight the real enemy."  -- sinead o'connor, and many others.
From: adolphso@mizar.usc.edu (adolphson)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: I am confused
Date: 11 Jan 1993 16:31:32 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: mizar.usc.edu

In article <1993Jan11.210115.8135@linus.mitre.org> 
jclander@symphony.mitre.org (Julian C. Lander) writes:

> If, on the other hand, the reference is to the movie, you are dealing with
> the Julie Andrews complex.  They mean that they have never known you to
> go to the bathroom. 

Or to display emotion in any remotely human way.

> (I'm a Julie Andrews Blinding Victim.  Mary Poppins
> came out when I was 5, and I've been in love with Ms. Andrews every since.
> And, yes, I will concede that she probably does go to the bathroom.  But 
> I'll guarantee it never smells.)

Oh dear.  Do you enjoy Deanna Durbin, too?

Arne
From: owen@autodesk.com (D. Owen Rowley)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: Dworkin (was Re: Liberty)
Keywords: menstruation, biological destiny, other nonsense
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:51:38 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.080521.20825@netcom.com>, cjlee@netcom.com (Caroline Jean Lee) writes:
> On the idea that women's biological role as childbearer is somehow a
> cause of or explanation for sexism and gender-based discrimination
> (and thus, women will have to transcend/escape this biological role
> to overcome sexism):

I don't think that the child bearing role is the sole cause or explanation
for the gender based discrimination, but I think its pretty clear that 
it has been a part of it.
I also think that the advances in conception control science have
influenced the issue.

Trying to communicate about complex ideas via this medium can be dificult.

> Could someone please post "If men could menstrate," by, I believe,
> Andrea Dworkin?

yes please, I'd like to see it.

> It is an illuminating and funny critique that devastates any such notion
> that biology plays a role in the development of an "-ism."

We'll see, :-) I'm pretty much a believer that biology determines a lot
of our destiny you know .

LUX ./. owen

--
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[ EU-PHORIA: A STATE OF WELL BEING ]
Euphoria is my natural state, I do what I enjoy and an abundance 
of all good fortune comes to me for it.
Newsgroups: soc.motss
From: idx009@cck.coventry.ac.uk (the Crisco Kid)
Subject: Re: zw{i,a}cky matters
Organization: Eris's Restaurant
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 18:04:46 GMT

In article <92366.144938SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> Graydon <SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
>A therblig is a 'Gilbreth' spelt backwards, Gilbreth as in 'John Kenneth'.
>It is a unit of task; one therblig is a motion taken in the process of
>accomplishing a task.  (for instance, picking up a nail is a therblig,
>if you're nailing shingles on.)

John Kenneth?  Then surely you meen "Galbraith", and the reversal would
be a "thiarblag".

				Kay

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