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From: archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Subject: Re: USSF and back-pass rule
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 15:07:32 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.195912.2522@news.uiowa.edu> miranda@sabotage.eng.uiowa.edu (Johann Miranda) writes:
>
>	I was wondering if anyone knows whether the USSF has ratified the 
>new ruling on backpasses to the goalkeeper. There seems to be some other changes
>as well. Will they be in effect this season in the USA? at what level? 
>Thanks for the info. Adios.


All new FIFA rules became effective in the Connecticut State Soccer
Association during August.  The Shoreline Adult Soccer League (Over-30's)
restarted the season on 30 August 1992 after a summer break after games
on 28 June 1992.  The Connecticut Soccer League restarted their league
games on 23 August 1992 after a summer break.

Since the CSSA is affiliated with the USSF, I have to conclude that
the USSF have ratified all the new rules.

The new rules were _not_ used at the National Soccer Hall of Fame Summer 
Classic Series tournaments in Oneonta, upstate New York.  They certainly
weren't being used at the Over-30 Challenge Trophy I played in during the
weekend of 7-8-9 August 1992.

The high school soccer association in Connecticut is _not_ implementing
the new rules for their new Autumn 1992 season.  (High schools soccer tend 
to play by their own rules anyway!)

I would be surprised if the NCAA do not implement the new rules in their 
new Autumn 1992 college soccer season though.  But I do not know for sure.



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From: mnardini@idtg.uucp (Mauro Nardini)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Who won the Scotland/Switzerland game ?
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:07:52 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Integrated Device Technology, Santa Clara


 
Anyone have a World cup qualifying update ? I'm especially interested in
the Scotland/Switzerland outcome.

Thx

Mauro Nardini

mnardini@idtinc.com


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From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Kasey Keller
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
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Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 18:05:08 GMT

Can someone tell how Kasey Keller is doing in net for Millwall in the English
1st Division?  Thank you.

Andy

ps I think that next year will be the year that Keller replaces Tony Meola as
the US's #1 keeper.


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From: andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa)
Subject: Norway- San Marino
Organization: GTE Contel Federal Systems
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 13:46:05 GMT

In Norway for WC qualifying

Norway 10  San Marino 0

Andy
From: gjd@inf.rl.ac.uk (Graham Doe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: Gresley news
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:58:05 GMT
Organization: Rutherford Appleton Laboratory, Informatics Department, U.K.


More on Gresley...

Following up a midweek 2-0 win over Redditch (I think it was Redditch - I'll
correct it later if not) Gresley came through the first qualifying round of 
the FA Cup on Saturday:

Newcastle Town 0 - Gresley Rovers 1

Beazer Midland leaders Gresley [does that sound good, Garry?] made a dream 
start with a 4th minute goal by Taplin.  But it was Newcastle who made the
chances after that with striker Gibbons twice failing to find the target with
only Gresley keeper Aston to beat.

After the break Newcastle continued to make and waste opportunities but Taplin
and substitute Weston should have wrapped things up for Rovers late on.

Newcastle made a last-gasp bid to force a replay, but Gresley hung on for a 
home tie against Gainsborough.

(Another unauthorised Sunday Mercury report)

And I'm far too depressed to write a report on Walsall's defeat at Colchester
on Saturday...

Cheers now,

Graham Doe
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Subject: Line-ups for tonights' clash in Sofia
Date: 9 Sep 1992 09:36:32 -0500
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I don't know if anyone can see this, but anyway, here are the line-ups:

    WC 1994 Qualifier:
    Sofia the 9th of September 1992 at 1600 UTC

         BULGARIA                      FRANCE

         Referee: Sandro Puhl (Hungary)

                                   LINE-UPS:

    Bulgaria: Mikhailov (cap);
              Kiriakov - Ivanov - Iliev - Tsvetanov;
              Yankov - Sirakov - Balakov - Kostadinov;
              Penev - Stoichkov;

    France:   Martini;
              Boli - Roche - Casoni - Petit;
              Sauzee - Fournier - Deschamps;
              Ginola - Papin - Vahirua;

With fingers crossed for an away victory in both Sofia and Helsinki,
Cheers,
Kent
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From: chris@scan.genetik.uni-koeln.de (Christian Schetter)
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Subject: Re: Leeds and Europe
Date: 15 Sep 92 11:36:47
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In-reply-to: patb@tcom.stc.co.uk's message of 14 Sep 92 13:10:01 GMT

In article <1992Sep14.131001.25003@tcom.stc.co.uk> patb@tcom.stc.co.uk (Patrick Brosnan) writes:

   In article <BuEw46.JM@newcastle.ac.uk> M.H.Smith@newcastle.ac.uk (Mark Smith) writes:
   >When are Leeds playing Stuttgart and is it on Telly??
   >
>>   Hi Mark,
>>
>>   First leg: Wednesday, Sep.16th, Stuttgart V Leeds on ITV (British
>>   TV) at about 
>>   7:10. I hope Knup, or whatever his name is, has the flu.

   ------------^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^---------

You better should hope, that Fritz Walter, the goalgetter of the year
91/92, will be missing. Interestingly the Austrian Knup has yet not
been successfully integrated into the Stuttgart squad and Walter is
one of the most 'dangerous' goalgetters of the bundesliga.

Chris






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From: t8914229@phillip.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: GRAEME SOUNESS AND HIS MANY MISTAKES
Date: 12 Sep 92 18:48:46 GMT
Organization: RMIT (Bundoora Campus)

Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: GRAEME SOUNESS

In article <1992Sep10.102722.10326@rdg.dec.com>, tanner@kbomfg.enet.dec.com (Dave Tanner) writes:
>>
>>    To me and a lot of other folks Souness is doing an excellent job, and when
>> all the injured recover they will be hard to beat. He's made one mistake since
>> taking over and that was selling Houghton, but he bought James and the Pool
>> needed him, and Paul Stewart will fit in well after about 10-15 games or so,
>> and when Thomas, Barnes, McManaman are back then we'll see some excellent
>> football. He also trying to get rid of that useless git Saunders...  
>>

according to paul@vax.oxford.ac.uk
oxford university - wow, SOUNESS would be impressed at your wealth of
knowledge and wisdom.

>Funny, I seem to recall Souness was the 'useless git' who bought 'that useless
 ----------------------------------------------------- (what is your source?)
 you also said that ".....Souness *was*.....": does that mean he isn't now?????
					       ================================
>git Saunders' ... mistake number 2 perhaps?

>Someone called Beardsley seems to be doing quite well across the park ...
 -------------------------------------------------------------------------
 really?????  where is the england selection?????  rob jones rose from
 virtual obscurity to england selection.  didn't GRAEME SOUNESS make a
 mistake there also?????
>mistake number 3?

>Need we go on?
 if you want us to see more of GRAEME SOUNESS'S so-called "mistakes"!

>Paul

	LIVERPOOL F.C. RULES THE WORLD FOREVER AND EVER
	GRAEME SOUNESS RULES ALL MANAGERS

	LIVERPOOL F.C.
	F.A. CUP WINNERS
	1992 (CENTENARY YEAR)

p/s.  LIVERPOOL F.C. winning the fa cup under the guidance of GRAEME SOUNESS
      must have been the biggest mistake of all!
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From: ST402544@brownvm.brown.edu
Subject: English results
Organization: Brown University
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:06:24 GMT

Div one
newc 3-1 pompey
barnsley 1-1 derby
bris c 0-1 sothend
charlt 0-0 camb
swind(le)on 2-2 brist r
tranmere 1-1 Grimsby
Millwall 0-0 blues
oxford 0-1 Sunderland
peterboro 1-3 West ham
watford 1-3 notts c

other scores
arse 0-1 Blac$$$$$burn
crystal P 2-2 oldham
everton0-2 Manu
man c 0-1 m'boro
Nott f 1-2 Sheff W
saints 1-2 qpr
sheff u 1-0 L'pool
chelsea 2-3 norwich
ipswich 2-1 wbldn

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From: Matthew.Lehrer@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Matthew Lehrer)
Subject: Re: Holland - Italy review
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 01:26:19 GMT

Marco, dont you think Baiano would be a good addition to the Italian
attack? Was he in the squad for the Holland game?

Matthew Lehrer
 
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From: mphillip@MATAI.VUW.AC.NZ
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Subject: Souness
Date: 14 Sep 92 23:28:42 GMT

Ok, time to get a few things straight. First of all I am not and never have
been a Manchester United supporter (for those of you who think that that
would alter my opinion about Liverpool (ha ha).

Secondly, the point I was trying to make requires further elaboration. The
Liverpool system revolved around scouting around other clubs and buying up
their best players and then sticking them in the reserves at Liverpool for
a few years. The competition for a first team place was incredible and as a
result you got a phenomenal(sp?) team. Two of the best examples I can think
of in terms of this method were Terry McDermott and Graeme Souness himself
(signed from Newcastle and Middlesboro respectively). If my memory serves
me right (and it often doesn't) they didn't get into the first team
straight away. Also, the purchase of Ian Rush from Chester for 300,000
pounds springs to mind).

Thsi system worked brilliantly , and coupled with some appropriate big-buys
(eg When Keegan left, replacing him with Dalglish) you maintained a very
high quality team. The problem in the last few seasons has been that with
the disintegration of the trio of Paisley, Fagan and Moran (Moran is the
only one left) and finally going outside the organisation to get a
manager(Dalglish served a good apprenticeship under those three and got to
know the Liverpool system)i.e Souness, the system has broken down.

I'm not saying that they haven't got some very good young players and I
agree that because of terrible injuries a lot of these young players have
been forced into the first team ahead of time, but if you look at the
purchases liverpool are making (Souness in particular) they are buying
established players and attempting to put them into the first team striaght
away. The result is the Manchester Utd syndrome  i.e. you have  11 highly
talented individuals and no team. Examples of these sorts of buys include
Michael Thomas & Paul Stewart. (Highly talented individuals who had
problems fitting in with their last clubs and surely the same situation
will arise at Anfield because the pressure is even greater). Basically I
think that Souness has attempted to buy success and that is not what the
Liverpool tradition was built on. Bill Shankly never panic bought and
certainly wouldn't spend lots of money during injury crises. I think that
Souness should learn from the Liverpool team that he was a part of, and the
way it operated. Otherwise it could be a very uncomfortable season at
Anfield. Also, if Dalglish couldn't take the strain I don't think Anfield
is the place for a bloke with a dodgy heart.
Martin Phillipson
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Victoria University
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From: psima01@convex.zdv.uni-tuebingen.de (M. Maisack)
Subject: Re: Wynalda scores again
Organization: Comp. Center (ZDV) U of Tuebingen, FRG
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 07:54:59 GMT

In <1992Sep6.233901.8750@europa.asd.contel.com> andy@rocky.gte.com (Andrew Busa) writes:

>This would make five goals for Eric.  That must put him at or very near the
>lead in goals scored in the German 1st Division.

>Hmmmm,  Eric and Roy is starting to sound better.

>Andy

the top scorer is Andreas Thom (Leverkusen) with 6.

well, Sarrb' has now scored 5 goals at home, all by Wynalda.
The next team can just concentrate on him and ignore the other 
10, I guess ;-)

anyway, time Eric starts scoring away from home.

Hos golas have all looked quite spectacular so far.

Michael

p.s. german 2nd div: Freiburg still in the lead after winning
 2:1 at Hertha, Duisburg with a draw at home vs. Jena
From: m.g.smyth@uk.ac.lut (Michael Smyth)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Athlone Town
Date: 14 Sep 92 08:11:07 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.soccer
Organization: Loughborough University, UK

I've just noticed the demise of Athlone Town from the League of Ireland,
can someone explain the reason.

Thanks

Michael
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Subject: Re: Burton teams (was Re: Football League Div Two Centenary)
Date: Mon, 7 Sep 1992 12:01:44 +0000







In article <Bu24Ey.FJL@hsi.com> archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer) writes:

>  As the Swifts' last season was 1900-01, the next season Burton United
>  appeared in the second division (I'm not aware of a name change, although
>  it's a possibility). 

The directors of Swifts and Wanderers realised that neither team was big enough
to survive independently so in 1901 they agreed to amalgamate and formed
Burton United. Sadly for fans of football in Burton, they weren't big
enough to survive as a united team either.

>  As I understand it, Burton Albion are currently a *loooooooooong* way off
>  from ever achieving what their predecessors did. :-(

Not that far, only two promotions away from the Football League  :-)

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From: archer@hsi.com (Garry Archer)
Subject: Re: Gresley news
Organization: 3M Health Information Systems, Wallingford CT
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 16:37:54 GMT

In article <9209071352.AA20539@ersboda.cs.umu.se> dvlkhh@cs.umu.se writes:
<Graham Doe write this: 
<> The upper echelons of the table are as follows:
<> 
<> 			Played	Points	Goal diff.
<> Newport		  4	  12	   +5
<> Redditch		  5	  10	   +4
<> Gresley		  3	   9	   +8
<> Bedworth		  4	   9	   +4
<> Barri		  4  	   9	   +3
<> Nuneaton		  4	   8	   +3
<> Sutton		  3	   7	   +4
<> ...
<> Looks like a pretty impressive start to life in the Beazer for the Moatmen!
<
<Yes indeed! They are soon in the Football League! :-)
<Or what do you say Garry?


Yep, we'll be there someday :-)

The way I understand it, they have to win the BHL Midland Division
to get into the BHL Premier Division.   Then the next step is promotion
into the GM Vauxhall Conference.  After that its the Football League!

Real Soon Now!  (Watch this space...)



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From: vdschoot@csi.UOttawa.CA (Hans van der Schoot)
Subject: Results of European tournaments?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 92 15:36:32 GMT

Could someby please post the results of the several international
tournaments held the last couple of weeks, in particular the
results of the Amsterdam tournament and the Rotterdam AD tournament.

Thanx,

Hans.
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Subject: Re: Naming trivia quiz
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:13:28 +0000







In message <1992Sep8.120352.15159@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> dc@dcs.qmw.ac.uk
(Daniel Cohen) writes:

>In <12740@ecs.soton.ac.uk> tjc@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Tim Chown) writes:
>>
>>DONCASTER        2-1 BARNET
>>Gormley 1            Barnett 52
>>Jeffrey 45
>
>Anyone think of other players/clubs with the same (or similar,
>or highly appropriate) names?
>
>Answers, on a postcard.....

How about the referee of the 1878 FA Cup final, Mr. S. R. Bastard?

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From: v067njbx@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Erik Werner)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: SPANISH SOCCER WEEK 1
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:43:00 GMT
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out on the scores, we are going to have a pretty lonely season. I salute them
on the great job they do.
    Since I didn't see any scores posted, the only thing that I can say is
that I saw the Real V. Barc,a game on Univision. Barc,a won 2-1. 
    The first half wasn't too exciting, but in the second half the game picked
up. I thought that there was a little too much fouling on both sides. Michel
was given the yellow for protesting, but prior he scored Real's only goal by
way of a penalty. The referee was pretty decent.
     Forgive me if my reporting skills lack the spice of Paco or Vicente,
but then again I'm not a journalism major. By  the way, how did the
Atleti do?


Erik Werner Blanco
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From: collins@prl.philips.nl (Donie Collins)
Subject: Belgian League Results. round 5.
Originator: collins@prl.philips.nl
Organization: Philips Research Labs (Nat Lab), Eindhoven, The Netherlands.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 20:47:34 GMT

League round 5
Games played 5/9 and 6/9.

 RWD Molenbeek     1 Germinal Ekeren   1
 Lommel            1 Standard Luik     1
 FC Luik           1 RSC Anderlecht    6
 SK Beveren        2 Racing Genk       1
 Charleroi         7 Boom              4
 KV Mechelen       3 AA Gent           2
 Cercle Brugge     3 Waregem SV        4
 Lokeren           0 Lierse SK         0
 Royal Antwerp FC  - Club Brugge       -  to be played 7 October
                                        
Table
-----                             Goals
Team                PL    PTS   For  Against
Anderlecht           5    10    16    3
Charleroi            5     8    15    8
KV Mechelen          5     8    12    5
Beveren              5     8     8    6
Standard Luik        5     7     7    5
Club Brugge          4     6     8    4
AA Gent              5     5     6    5
Lokeren              5     5     4    6
FC Antwerp           4     4     8    8
Lierse SK            5     4     9    6
Waregem              5     4    10   11
Boom                 5     4    12   15
RWDM                 5     4     5    6
KRC Genk             5     3     5    7
Germinal Ekeren      5     3     9   13
FC Luik              5     3     8   13
Cercle Brugge        5     1     9   16
Lommel               5     1     3   17


League Scorers (as per 06-9-92).
1. Versavel (KV Mechelen)       5 goals;
   Kruzen (Waregem)             5 goals;

2. Bettagno (Standard Luik)     4 goals;
   Bosman (Anderlecht)          4 goals;
   Eijkelkamp (KV Mechelen)     4 goals;
   Goots (KRC Genk)             4 goals;
   Karacic (Cercle Brugge)      4 goals;
   Lukaku (Boom)                4 goals;
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From: kstokker@risc.uni-linz.ac.at (Karel Stokkermans)
Subject: To Daniel Soska (Re: CSFR round 4)
Organization: RISC, J.K. University, Linz; Austria
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 07:37:40 GMT

Daniel, as my mail to you bounced:
thanks for updating the tables, and
home teams are left, away right, in good old european tradition...

Cheers,
Karel
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From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
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Subject: Australia NSL 1992
Date: 7 Sep 1992 11:19:08 -0500
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I hope anyone can help me with filling my football database.

I haven't the final standings of the NSL and I haven't the result of the
Grand Final, I have probably missed these articles. Could anyone mail the
missing information, please?

Kent