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From: yarvin@cs.yale.edu (Norman Yarvin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Shit-for-brains grad students
Date: 17 Dec 92 19:10:31 GMT
Organization: Yale Computer Science Department
NNTP-Posting-Host: cathy.na.cs.yale.edu

alex@vmars.tuwien.ac.at (Alexander Vrchoticky) writes:
>ah, the academic world, where art and science meet:
>it's science to solve problems, but it is art to create problems
>that can be solved. to hell with this kind of intellectual masturbation.

Why would anybody want to create problems in the first place?  There are
enough problems that already exist.  Even if you don't count the ones posed
by academics.

--
Norman Yarvin						yarvin@cs.yale.edu
 "I repeat once again: honesty is the rarest commodity in this university."
		- V. I. Fabrikant, (ex-)Concordia U.
From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Malcolm X
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:18:06 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

In article <1gjp32INNku8@CATHY.NA.CS.YALE.EDU> yarvin@cs.yale.edu
(Norman Yarvin) writes:
>Some of the other discrepancies:
>
>In the movie, Malcolm X pulls the Russian Roulette scene because one of the
>other people in the burglary gang wants to be the "boss", and so does he.
>In the book, there is no mention of the need for any kind of "boss"; it is a
>complete non-issue.  Presumably everything is to be done cooperatively.  In
>the book, he holds the gun only to his own head, and he warns the others
>never to betray a man who is not afraid to die.  (Betrayal would be to the
>cops, presumably.  It is a completely different question than leadership.)
>There is no reason Spike Lee couldn't have done this scene right.  In my
>view he altered it so that there would be a conflict between Malcolm X and
>the white man who also wanted to be the boss.

Gotta disagree with ya there.  I seem to recall that, in the book, Malcolm
pulled the Russian Roulette act because he didn't want the other guy taking
over.  Also, I believe that the other guy is black but very light-skinned.
BTW, he was played by the guy who played a deaf-mute in "Do the Right
Thing", the guy who went around selling MLK/Malcolm X photos.

>>There were a couple things I can think of that were different in the movie
>>than they were described in the book.  For one, the book never says that
>>Malcolm X's phone was bugged by the FBI (I think).  And the book doesn't
>>explain away the Russian Roulette scene, the way the movie does,
>
>It was supposed to be the CIA in the movie.  The book does not even contain
>the word "CIA".  I was amused by this: yet another film-maker dragging the
>"evil CIA" into his film.

Hmm, that was confusing to me.  He speculated that the guys who followed him
around Egypt and to the pyramid were CIA guys...and the movie credits listed
them as CIA.  On the other hand, they also show a scene of an office with
Malcolm X photos up on a bulletin board and a report stamped "FBI".

I don't remember hearing much about CIA harassment of civil rights leaders
during the 60s but the FBI was notorious for it...which made their heroic
role in "Mississippi Burning" a laugh riot.

   donald x
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: dmunroe@vcd.hp.com (Dave Munroe)
Subject: Re: Curse Of the Stuttering Pig
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 03:38:54 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard

geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM writes:


>"Burbank (AP)  The Walt Disney Co. has pulled an ad for a children's
>bath soap that features Piglet, a stuttering character from "Winnie
>the Pooh," after complaints from an advocacy group for stutterers.

I wonder if they complained about "I, Claudius"?

-Dave
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From: dre@catnip.berkeley.ca.us (Andre)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: wedding peeves
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:35:37 GMT
Distribution: alt
Organization: The San Jose Home for Perverted Hackers

It really sucks after all the work you go through in order to set up
the tables and folks who say they'll show up don't even bother to attend.

Brain-dead organists who don't pay attention.

Ministers who forget to feed the cue to the organist.

Limos that break down.

Battery packs that die at the most inopportune time.

-- 
"And tell me, how did you come to have so many children?"
"Well, Groucho, I love my wife."
"I love my cigar too, but I take it out sometimes."
From: dourish@EuroPARC.Xerox.COM (Paul Dourish)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Shit-for-brains grad students
Date: 17 Dec 92 14:36:14 GMT
Reply-To: dourish@EuroPARC.Xerox.COM (Paul Dourish)
Organization: Rank Xerox EuroPARC, Cambridge, UK

I just got *another* phone call. I've been getting a lot of these
lately. They generally begin, "Hello, I got your name from [someone
I've never heard of]. I'm doing a PhD in your research area, but I
don't have a clue, and I get lost trying to find the library. I wonder
if you could just send me a few pointers to get me started. Perhaps
you'd like to write the literature review section of my thesis as
well, or maybe the whole thing if you're not doing much this
afternoon."

I'm beginning to get really pissed off with these people. I'm not a
f*cking library service, and if they're too stupid to get it together
and find the standard references, then screw 'em.

The latest strategy, of course, is to collect together some of the
earliest, flakiest and most widely discredited work in the field, and
send it to them with a cover note saying how it's really wonderful,
seminal, state-of-the-art work and I'm sure that it's a fine starting
point for their research.

Sigh.
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.angst
From: harry@timesink.chi.il.us (Harold Platypus)
Subject: Re: Fuck Christmas
Organization: Big Bulging Buffalo Bladders -R- Us
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 03:31:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.101600.7516@merlin.comlab.ox.ac.uk> library@comlab.ox.ac.uk (Gordon Riddell) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.065144.16244@timesink.chi.il.us> harry@timesink.chi.il.us (Harold Platypus) writes:
>>In <lier0bINN6p2@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>>
>>>[tear jerking blithering cropped]
>>>>rest of the world still believe... then she smiled and said   
>>>>	"Daddy... I Love You"
>>>
>>>Did you unzip you fly and say "Prove it?"
>>>
>>You're one twisted motherfucker all right...
>
>I realise it is coming up to Christmas but is there really a need for this
>obsequiesness. If you want to compliment Drew I suggest you mail direct rather
>than wasting bandwidth. 

I suggest you try to suck your own disk...
- Harry
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: t88swa@tdb.uu.se (Sven Wallman)
Subject: Re: Beatles Peeve
Organization: Dept. of Scientific Computing, Uppsala Univ.
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 15:09:10 GMT

Not Al Crawford (Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk) wrote:
: And lo, t88swa@tdb.uu.se (Sven Wallman) spake unto the masses saying:
: >
: > I thought Frank Oz was dead.
: 
: He is?? I thought it was only Jim Henson that was pushing up daisies. When
: did this happen?

I think he is still alive.
I was wrong and you were right.
Peeve: Inappropriate sig.
--
Sven Wallman, S:t Larsg. 5, 753 11 Uppsala, Sweden, +46 1812 9237
"I think, therefore I'm right."-Hugo Rune

Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: MalcolmX
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
	<CINDY.92Dec13182159@solan10.solan.unit.no>
	<92Dec14.163428.21169@acs.ucalgary.ca>
Date: 14 Dec 92 22:02:14

Charles Parr muses:
>If Dahmer suddenly began preaching macrobiotics, vegetarianism,
>and world peace, would we hail him as a saint?

Jeffrey Dahmer preaching VEGETARIANISM?!???

I don't know whether that was intentional or not, but you made me fall
off my chair.  The floor is damn hard, but it was worth it.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway
From: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM (Nick O'Ragua)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Palestine.
Followup-To: alt.peeves
Date: 16 Dec 1992 17:52:35 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: geoffm@purplehaze.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: purplehaze.corp.sun.com


In article 92Dec11223238@peak.nmsu.edu, larry@peak.nmsu.edu (Evil Engineer doin' it the Cowboy Way) writes:

> Just in case you care about correct [Texas] pronounciation, the phonetic
> spelling is Palisteen. Based on the Texas pronounciation of Amarillo
> (rhymes with Brillo), you know these folks are fussy about being correct.

They're *weird,* is what they are.  When I mentioned Deaf Smith County, Texas,
in a conversation with my father, he informed me that according to Texans, the 
correct pronunciation of the first word in that name is "deef."


eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com (Erik Radmall) writes:

>I love some of the pronunciations around Rochester, NY. For instance, the town
>Chili is pronounced ChieLie instead of Chilly. And Charlotte is pronounced
>with the emphasis on the second syllable instead of the first. And Rochester is
>pronounced Rochstr. Just had to get it off my chest...

I had a history teacher in high school who used to drive me batshit with
stuff like that.  He pronounced the name of the nation of Chile "CHEE-lay,"
and Saudi Arabia was "sah-OO-dee" Arabia to him.  Pronouncing the name of a
country the way its residents do is well and good when you're speaking 
their language, but it's awkard-sounding and phony when you're not.  

Some of his pronunciations were just plain bizarre.  This was during 
Watergate (I know: I'm dating myself.  Don't worry, though; I've made
reservations at the local old folks' home), and he would often mention 
Bob "HALL-dee-monn."



Geoff


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From: donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: MalcolmX
Date: 17 Dec 92 21:35:54 GMT
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA

In article <1992Dec15.222408.22031@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu
(Bill Berbenich) writes:
>The movie is a fictional account with chunks of truth thrown in to add some
>measure of credibility.  Who doesn't agree with that?  A popular tool of the
>propagandist, that one.  Not saying X's/Shabazz' life was without merit or
>substance, mind you, just drawing some distinction between reality and the
>Lee movie.  The ol' "kernel of truth" principle...
>
>Had Lee hated Shabazz instead of adoring him, the picture would have gone
>the other way.  But don't ever believe for a second that the movie isn't a
>fictional account.

Some aspects of X's autobiograohy were altered in making the movie but
it is very true to his autobiography.  Are you saying that it was
fictional as well?

>Just like Stone's "JFK."

Now, Stone clearly made stuff up in putting together JFK.  A lot of it
rang true, in my opinion but it was definitely speculation.

   don "jfk is dead too, geoff" baldwin
From: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Collector's Confectionery
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:11:54 GMT
Reply-To: Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk (Not Al Crawford)
Organization: Penicuik People's Revolutionary Sheepdog Liberation Front
Originator: awrc@hoy.dcs.ed.ac.uk

Just what is the point? The past couple of months have seen a new
phenomenon find its way onto the shelves - limited edition confectionery.
Now it's possible to buy "Limited Edition Triple-Choc Twix" or "Limited
Edition Orange Flavour Aero". So what's with the "limited edition" idea?
It's not as if confectionery is the sort of thing you can hoard and sell
for a fortune twenty years from now, is it? Well, not unless you can
persuade your buyer that they *did* issue a "Limited Edition Mould Covered
Twix" or whatever.

-- 
		Not Al Crawford - Not_Al_Crawford@ed.ac.uk
      "Brothers, sisters, we don't need this fascist sheepdog thang"
From: russ@bbxrbk (Russ Kepler)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: bait (was: Re: Malcolm X)
Date: 16 Dec 92 15:08:12 GMT
Organization: /etc/organization

In article <1992Dec15.161339.5709@umbc3.umbc.edu> potler@umbc4.umbc.edu (Laura Potler (GSFC)) writes:
>In article <3d-r3n_@lynx.unm.edu> baldwin@carina.unm.edu (Chris Baldwin) writes:
>>!Peeve: A user that I was helping format her book last summer left me a
>>big tin of brownies, because her book is done now and just about to go 
>>to press.
>
>chris, wake up and smell the coffee [tm ann landers (or was it dear abby?)].
>this woman wants you. bad.
>
>peeve: that men don't bake goodies as a way of luring women.

Well, I'm out of the mode of luring women (and into the mode of luring
*a* woman) but back when I was in the dating mode I frequently had my
dates over to my apartment for food as a way of getting acquainted.  In
my family the men cooked food and the women burned it.  My mother is
admittedly one of the worst cooks I've ever met, my oldest sister the
only person I've known to scald water (as a later accomplishment she
managed to put a stuffed turkey into the oven and start the oven on a 
6 hour self clean cycle).

My mother was a bad enough cook that my brother, a sister and I all
escaped into working for restaurants just so we could have one edible
meal a day.  My brother and I both ended up cooking - me as a short
order cook for a few places and later an Italian place and my brother
mostly for a steak place and a place on the top of a local mountain.

Anyway, if we have a get-together at my folks place my brother and I
make sure that we're doing the cooking, or we'll go out for take-out
food (take-away for the NA challenged amoung us).

There's nothing like spending a day getting ready to cook a nice
Chinese meal - morning making the fixings for spring rolls, dumplings,
etc. and the afternoon getting the hot & sour ready and the rest of
everything chopped, then a late afternoon orgy of food and spirits
with friends.

-- 
Russ Kepler, posting from home   bbxrbk!russ@bbx.basis.com
Will hack unix for food
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: bberbeni@nyx.cs.du.edu (Bill Berbenich)
Subject: Re: Shit-for-brains grad students
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 13:36:35 GMT

In <1992Dec17.143614.12510@parc.xerox.com> dourish@EuroPARC.Xerox.COM (Paul Dourish) writes:

>I just got *another* phone call. I've been getting a lot of these
>lately. They generally begin, "Hello, I got your name from [someone
>I've never heard of]. I'm doing a PhD in your research area, but I
>don't have a clue, and I get lost trying to find the library. I wonder
>if you could just send me a few pointers to get me started. Perhaps
>you'd like to write the literature review section of my thesis as
>well, or maybe the whole thing if you're not doing much this
>afternoon."

It is good to know that I am not alone in this regard!

By the way, Paul, what did you say your telephone number is?
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
From: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Cereal Killer)
Subject: Re: The Other Side of the Chanukka Bush
Keywords: hohoho, rudolf, moishe, treeworship, saturnalia
Reply-To: z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson -- Cereal Killer)
Organization: John Deere Product Development and Pathology Lab
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 00:09:37 GMT

shampton@jarthur.claremont.edu (Scott M Hampton) writes:

>Peeve2: Mormons. All of them. Humorless gits, useless wanks, hard working
>unimaginative mind numbingly closeminded puritanical soulless lackwits.

	Yeah, there are a few of them like that.

>No music,

	Bullshit.  The entire goddamn Osmond family are Mormons, moron!

>no dancing

	No *ability* to dance, but dancing is not forbidden.

> no alcohol

	Anything you brew yourself is alright, as is anything of low
alcohol content you drink in moderation.

>no random acts of meaninless violence

	Marie Osmond would disagree, as would my dear departed step-
grandmother.  Her husband, a Mormon, shot her for nagging.  Then, of
course, there is me...

[rest deleted]

	Luckily, I wasn't a true Mormon.  I was a RoLaiDS, which means
we didn't like Brigham Young and thought polygamy was a fine idea but
too hard on the ol checkbook.  I mean, you buy one a diamond ring for
your anniversary and ya gotta buy all twenty of them a diamond ring,
and well, you get the idea.

	As many of you have surmised by now, I quit organized religion
in favor of doing whatever I damn well please and living my life as *I*
see fit to live it.  And yes, I am much happier now.

	Peeve: basing views of people on religion.  As with any broad
classification of people, it is undoubtedly going to be wrong when
applied to a vast majority of the group, and just as useless as
classifying people based on race, gender, or virtually anything else.

--
< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "This isn't an answer, it's a pagan dance around a midnight fire  >
<   written in intellectual runes." -- Rich Young                    >
From: egev05@castle.ed.ac.uk (B A Page)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Tea time
Date: 14 Dec 92 18:54:55 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Dec10.183432.17004@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:

>AntiPeeve:  Earl Grey tea.  Now, THERE's a tea* with a great taste to it...

*[tempting typographic error deleted with regret]

Peeve:  Earl Grey tea.  Tastes like the avon lady dumped all the
unwanted perfumes in it on the way back from her rounds.

Peeve: Lapsang Souchong tea.  Tastes like the chinese found a way of
getting rid of 1 billion people's sewerage** - freeze dry it and 
flog it to the British at a vastly inflated price.

Give me a good cuppa with Tetley in it any time.  

!Peeve;  teacups that hold as much tea as my favoured beer-glasses hold
beer.  

**Of course, the Japanese, not to be outdone, have decided on a similar
course of action only they are selling JEWELLERY made out of
melted-down-recycled-sushi (recycled via the anal sphincter)***.  
Now, I have a slight problem with the idea of wearing earrings made out
of melted jobby.  However, I could sell them some great ideas for
increasing productivity involving my staple diet of Strong Lager and
Vindaloo.  

***No I am not pulling your proverbial appendage

Babs
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From: thespian@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca (Stephanie M. Clarkson)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.angst
Subject: Re: Games
Date: 20 Dec 92 19:40:00 GMT
Organization: darkpark

mlc9g@Virginia.EDU ("Matt Condon") writes:

> thespian@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca  writes:
> >  
> > (it's my birthday, and my mailbox was filled with letters from me, and I 
> > am happy....in three days I'll be sullen and sulky with you all again, 
> > 'k?)
> >  
> 
> Happy birthday. But....  YOUR mailbox was filled with letters
> from YOU???  YIKES!!!!  Ever looked into therapy?  :-)

typo typo typo...
 
letters FOR me, from all the people on the net that I care about...
 
some of them hadn't even realized it was my birthday, but even though 
they hadn't sent me mail in months, there it was :-)
 
Stephanie.


    Stephanie M. Clarkson : thespian@noncomf.tdkcs.waterloo.on.ca         
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    What do you give the guy who  |  "Well, there are the usual           
    has nothing?                  |  things; flowers, chocolates,
     -- The wrong phone number.   |  promises you don't intend to
                                  |  keep."           - Cogsworth       
  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Xref: sparky alt.peeves:18446 alt.angst:4881
From: banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,alt.angst
Subject: Re: Fuck Christmas
Date: 17 Dec 1992 16:01:53 GMT
Organization: Sun, Moon, and Stars
NNTP-Posting-Host: abingdon

(Harold Platypus) writes:
>In article <liup1fINN5ot@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> banta@abingdon.Eng.Sun.COM (242 lbs before cooking) writes:
>>By the way, Harry, it's road racing, not drag racing.  I like road
>>racing because it's a lot like sex: anywhere from 30 minutes to four
>>hours of being right on the edge.  You'd probably like drag racing
>>because it's a lot like sex: several seconds of furious activity and
>>rubber smoke.
>
>Alot like your auto-sex you mean - as you jack your joker into your
>pillow and mop up the mess with your skid marked jockey shorts. Do
>you suck them clean after?

Well, you get *my* nomination for the Unclear on the Concept award
this week.  The point, HP, was to draw analogies that even you could
understand.  Your reply reads like an instruction guide for the
recently pubescent, not relevant commentary.

Ignoring the fact that you're probably the only person I've ever known
who felt there was a need for masturbatory study guides and tutoring,
your comment lends nothing to the discussion.

drew
banta@abingdon.sun.com
--
"The power of accurate observation is commonly called cynicism
 by those who have not got it."
                                -- George Bernard Shaw
Newsgroups: alt.peeves,talk.politics.misc
From: cindy@solan10.solan.unit.no (Cynthia Kandolf)
Subject: Re: Media  Wars
Followup-To: alt.peeves,talk.politics.misc
Organization: /home/ludviga/cindy/.organization
	<1992Dec10.204523.16405@wetware.com>
Date: 13 Dec 92 14:38:47

>What is MOST Annoying to me is the sorry fact that:
>
>(a) the somlians did NOT mine the beach.
>(b) use the lovely lighting to sniper fire some
>of those Kliege Light Toting Targets.

Actually, last night one of my friends suggested that the _Marines_
should have mined the beach (and kept a map of the mines, so they
could get through safely but the camera-toting fools would have gone
foom).  The rest of us decided this would have been too difficult,
logistically.  Another suggestion was to "soften up" the beach with
random bursts of automatic weapons fire.  Yet another person
recommended launching grenades at the flood lights.

And i bet some of you thought Norwegians were pacifists.

-Cindy Kandolf
 cindy@solan.unit.no
 Trondheim, Norway