From: ngopalas@nyx.cs.du.edu (Nath Gopalaswamy)
Subject: Re: Nobel Prize & IITs
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix @ U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 92 18:57:04 GMT

Whew!! I think this will only infuriate Killer Patel further :-)

>: 
>: And before trying to put down the IITs, ask yourself this question first: 
>: given a chance would you have joined an IIT?
>: 
>: -Shubu
>
>  Hi Shubu!
>
>	You're right that in general IIT students have better IQs than 
>  students from other engineering colleges in India. As far as IQs go
>  they'd rank way up there. But there's another side to it. By concent-

Now don't you start believing that crap too! No such IQ test has been 
conducted :-) 

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>	You IITians are the cream of Indian engineering talent. If you
>  go abroad in droves like you're wont to do, what will happen to India?
>  It gave you a subsidised education. You say you have no moral obligation
>  towards India. That's your motherland man. It's where you were born and
>  learnt to play cricket. It's where your parents live. Most importantly,
>  you are what you are today, ie a prized catch because it provided the
>  means to achieve it. India gave you all this and it needs you now. Won't
>  you go back? 

Let me present a hypothetical situation. Suppose a law was passed banning
IIT graduates specifically from going abroad. Now I can bet that the number
of people writing the JEE will plummet. People will jostle for the REC's and
then go abroad from there. Like that every college will have to be excluded.
Most of the charm of the IIT's is because graduates are coveted in the US
and typically end up in good jobs. Now take that away, the IIT's will not be
able to attract any students. Good guys somehow seem to end up in the US
whether they are from IIT's or not.

[emotional tirade deleted]

>  even tried to repay your debts. Your debt is not living India for a 
>  few years or remitting $4000 as someone was saying. It is that of re-
>  building India.

Agreed, but what I meant was that you are not going to have much success
in getting people to go back if they don't want to. On the other hand, the
compromise of paying back whatever the Govt has spent on us has a much better
chance of acceptance. At least the Govt will recover its investment rather
than losing it all. Abolishing the IIT's is the only step to prevent Govt
money drain. But only 50% of IITans go abroad, the rest stay back, so that
step also will not work. And of this 50% I would like to believe that quite
a few go back, three have already gone back from my college after 7-8 years.


>
>	If you are the best rise to the occasion. If not quit saying that
>  you're the best.

No one is best or superior, only better or lesser trained.

>
>  Flames to rajesh@cs.wpi.edu

What is more important is that ALL Indians who are working here should go back.
Not just IITans, because that is discriminatory. Apart from the fact that the
IITans are more subsidized than others there is no difference (IQ or otherwise).
So if paying back money is not enough then ALL, including YOU should seriously
think of going back.

Nath.

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