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From: aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: Badly maintained lanes - what to do?
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Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:00:48 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.191558.23367@hspice.portal.com> ,
gregw@hspice.portal.com writes:
>Just my usually peeved $0.02 worth :-)


Couldn't of said it better myself....

my $.02 worth...

What REALLY torques my jock strap is the houses that refuse to
chew out the weekend combat bowler that arrives with 15 of
their *closest* friends (all usually around 15 years old).  Who
don't have the slightest idea of bowling etiquette.  These
little monsters:

1.   Hurry up to the foul line during your approach to "catch up" to you.
      (what the hell do they think this is?  A race?)

2.   After they throw the ball, THEY STAND ON THE APPROACH 
      waiting for the ball to return!  ARRGH!

3.   Scream at the top of their lungs just as you're releasing you ball.

4.   Loft the ball so badly you can _feel_ the wood denting...(ouch!)

5.   Have never even _heard_ of a foul line.

6.   Bowling shoes?  What are they?  You mean I can't use my boots?

7.   Use MY ball, then ARGUE that they saw the ball first!

8.   Rummage through my bag looking for a *clean* towel. ("What? You can
bring
      your own equipment?  The bowling alley didn't give this to you at
the
     counter? Does this mean I have to give you your towel back?")

9.   Don't know how to work the automatic scorer and erase MY frame! |:-(

      and last but CERTAINLY not least..

10.  When they leave, they leave about 50 house balls on the ball return!
=8-0

there...I've said it...I feel *much* better! :-)

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: 10 pin gripes (LH bowler)
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In article <9023@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> Pat Gleason,
pgleason@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM writes:
>Last night in my mixed league, I left a bunch of 10 pins.  Being a LH
bowler,
>I normally leave my share of 7 pins, but I've never had a problem
leaving solid
>10 pins on pocket hits.  Therefore, I wasn't sure what adjustment to
make.  
>I'm not really complaining, I like shooting 10 pins much more than
shooting 7 
>pin spares :-).  Does anybody have a suggestion as to what causes this,
and what
>admustment could be made to alleviate it?  I throw a BUD II pretty much 
>straight out over the first arrow and let it snap into the pocket.
>-- 

Normally when you leave the ten pin, the 6 pin (which should kick the
ten pin out) flies around the ten leaving it standing.  Usually this means
the ball came in at too radical an angle "slicing" through the 5 pin/9 pin
hitting the 5 pin high to the right, nicking the 6 pin and sliding the 6
pin
around the ten.  (are you confused now?)...ok stay with me...  I've found
that when I leave too many 7 pins (same as above just replace the 9pin
with
the 8 pin and 6 pin with the 4 pin), if I throw the ball further down the
lane
allowing for more skid before breaking OR I change the angle of approach
the
ball has into the pocket the problem goes away.  (usually replaced by
washouts,
7-10's, 5-10 etc..but hey, that's a different story..) :-) ....
-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: one weapon taken...
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:50:55 GMT


one weapon has already been taken..

the hammer and one weapon remains...

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
*************************************
From: jrcst21+@pitt.edu (Justin R Chimka)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: D-scale durometer
Date: 16 Sep 92 03:07:52 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Pittsburgh
Originator: jrcst21@pmax1.cis.pitt.edu


I was wondering if someone could exactly explain the "D-scale
durometer".  I know it records the hardness of the ball, but
thats about it. What are the ranges of it, is the lower the
softer?  And could you give some examples of balls?

thanks
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: c9a-az@po.berkeley.edu (Mark Fujimoto)
Subject: Re: problems with Phantom (blue)
Organization: University of California, at Berkeley
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 02:46:48 GMT

In article <BuAEtF.6J9@acsu.buffalo.edu> v060p9rr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT) writes:
>
>	Just bought a used blue Phantom a couple of hours ago.  Bowled just
>
>one game with it to test drilling.  It gave me a good roll from start to 
>
>finish.  It was a big jump from my wine U-dot.  I was just wondering if 
>
>there were any negative reactions from current and former Phantom owners.
>

I owned a Black Phantom (past tense!).  I didn't care for the way it
reacted.  Just didn't give me what I was looking for...incidentally, I
drilled my Phantom #5, hoping it would produce a more stable roll.
Drilling methods 1-4 all seem to position the "ring" out of align-
ment with your track, thus giving you more wobble, ala "leverage"
weight.

People I know who own Phantoms seem to favor the blue over the others, I
guess because it is the hooking one of the bunch.  I never tried the
blue, because they were rather pricey at the time and because of my prior
experience with the black one.  But hey, if it works for you, then
that's what is important!
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: Re: Bowling Honor Roll
From: S900303@UMSLVMA.UMSL.EDU
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 03:32:44 GMT
Organization: UM ST. LOUIS

In article <1992Sep3.133922.7270@worldbank.org>
aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org> writes:
 
>
>In article <1992Sep3.120109.23736@pixel.kodak.com> Ben K Gibson, bkg@ssd.kodak.com writes:
>>You get the idea. Anyhow the criteria would be things such as Award Scores,
>>600+ series, bowling firsts, 7-10 splits, 225+games, and so on.
>>Also tournaments won or placed. Please e-mail me your suggestions. If enough
>>people are interested, I will coordinate the list.
>
>...sounds like fun, I'm game if everyone else is...
>
>-aki
>The Worldbank Wash D.C.
>(202)458-1112
>Email: akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
>*************************
>"How come the best ball for me
>is always the one I don't own?"
 
 
  Sounds like a good idea .....Let's get it started!!!
 
                               Murf
 
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: Lanes & Baby Powder
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In article <92258.20597.L621035@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM> ,
L621035@LMSC5.IS.LMSC.LOCKHEED.COM writes:
>  Due to my work schedule, I only bowl on weekends...right after 1,000's
of
>open play/non-league bowlers.  On Friday night, I started the new league
12
>pins over my book avg.  On Sunday eve, (5pm) I got a pair of lanes that
had
>been so slicked over by baby powder, I avg'd. 16 pins under avg.  I'm the
>lucky one, the 2 guys avg'd 40 & 80 pins under (respectively).  We
noticed
>the powder after we started our shadow balls.  We did have someone "clean
>it up", but by then the damage was done, all 8 of us had slipped & slid
all
>over the lanes, & the confidence was shot...Talk about establishing low
>averages...
>Pamela

...add to my previous post of things that really tick me off...

12.  Inconsiderate bowlers that throw baby power around like EVERYONE
just LOVES the stuff!  The junk ought to be BANNED from the bowling
alley!

I can't count how many times I've seen someone fall and hurt themselves
because some JERK has poured baby powder all over the lanes.  Usually
this is done by someone who went to the mens/ladies room, got their
shoes wet and commenced to dust the entire approach with power so
THEY can slide.  The other day I saw (I'm not kidding here), HALF A BOTTLE
of baby power POURED ON THE FLOOR IN THE PIT with footprints all the way
to the foul line!  I told the management about this and they thanked me
and
promptly had someone clean up it (after letting me know that they TOO were
disgusted with such dangerous habits).  Call me a jerk but whenever I see
anyone using babypower on the lanes, I immediately explain to them the
consequences of what they did and tell them to purchase "true-slide" or
"EZ-slide" to "tap" on their shoes instead of fogging up the entire lane
with
that deadly shit.
If they don't listen, I calmly go out to my car (after changing shoes of
course)
get my .45 and shoot them and all members of their immediate family. 
Stupid people shouldn't breed! ;-) ......

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: Badly maintained lanes - what to do?
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Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 14:12:02 GMT

In article <9051@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> Pat Gleason,
pgleason@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM writes:
>The house that we bowl at guarantees your team (& opponents) all of your
money 
>back for that night if your lane(s) are down for > 15 minutes or goes
down
>and you have to move to another pair.  I was never really sure about the 
>guarantee until once last winter when we continually had problems
getting our
>balls back.  After the third attempt at a repair, the manager came by
with
>a refund of our house fee for the night and moved us to another pair!   
>-- 

Well, that settles it..I'm moving to Atlanta! :-)

-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
*************************************
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: Re: an aki thought he had it bad...
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In article <1992Sep15.163229.20835@col.hp.com> Dave Fleck,
fleck@col.hp.com writes:
>
>Moral of my story... don't listen to anybody unless you are practicing!
>

Amen!  Cardinal rule...never (and I mean NEVER) use a league night
to try out new releases/balls/techniques!  Bad Dave!  Baaaad
Dave!  (now stand in the corner! :-) )...

It is however an MOST EXCELLENT time to try out new beers and food!
("...uh excuse me mam...how much were those corn dogs?)...


>I have always used the arrows and pretty much ignored the dots that are
5ft
>out on the lanes... he had me trying to line up the dots and the arrows
to
>get the right angle... nice idea.. poor timing...  I would imagine
everyone
>else on the net uses this method... am I right?

Now let me get  straight...you start your approach..you look down at the
dots..you look up at the arrows...then you quickly look down at the
dots again..then back up at the arrows...(obviously order is VERY
important
here..)  all while MAKING YOUR APPROACH at somewhere around 5 mph?
You'd have to have eyes like MARTY FELDMAN =%-0  to accomplish that!  If
you don't have them at the beginning at the game, you sure as heck would
by the end of the night!  (..."gee doctor, I never had this eye problem
until
I started BOWLING..")   !!!







-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
me is always the one I don't own?"
*************************************
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling,alt.folklore.urban
From: gregw@hspice.portal.com ()
Subject: "Killer" bowling balls
Organization: Meta-Software Inc., Campbell, CA
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 20:42:26 GMT

I cross-posted this to afu because it smacks of an UL.  I haven't
seen an afu FAQ for about six months, maybe the answer is there?

I used to bowl with this guy named Skip in a mixed handicap league.
Skip was a good bowler, averaged in the high 180's, used a "Cobra"
wrist support.  One day Skip called me to say that he couldn't bowl
for a few weeks because he had torn some tendons in his wrist.
When I asked him about it, he said, "I have my ball drilled so
that it can only come off my hand the 'right' way.  I was bowling
in ABT and it didn't come off right, so it tore up my wrist."

So ... is there a method of drilling such that the ball will only
come off a certain way, and if not, injures you?

Enquiring minds need to know!

[To the AFU'ers:  Hi guys!  I just can't read 200+ articles per day
anymore.  When's AFU West III (IV? V?)

-- Greg

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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: rjk1@cec1.wustl.edu (Bob Kollmeyer)
Subject: Re: Bowling software
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis Mo.
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:49:56 GMT

a quick archie check turned up these two programs available via ftp.  Save
yourself a phone call 8)

Host rigel.acs.oakland.edu   (141.210.10.117)
Last updated 04:13  1 Sep 1992

    Location: /pub/msdos/database
      FILE      rw-r--r--    168064  Jun 14  1991   bowl101j.zip

Host rigel.acs.oakland.edu   (141.210.10.117)
Last updated 04:13  1 Sep 1992

    Location: /pub/msdos/database
      FILE      rw-r--r--    373345  Mar 25 19:00   bowls20c.zip

I have not had the need for either program and as such cannot comment on their
function.  Enjoy.

bob
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Subject: Re: Hall of SHAME nomination?
Keywords: Hall of SHAME
Reply-To: jeffh@crchh317.BNR.CA (Jeff Hammond)
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd.
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 15:38:52 GMT

	Opening night of league and boy did I stink.
178 - 165 - 158    501 series.

	Since my last book ave was 186 (90 -91 season) I
really stunk up the place. No excuses I was just out and out
missing. For some odd/stupid reason I was loosing my mark
just before the slide, new glasses that's it. Oh well at least
the wife (Brenda) bowled great 213 - 185 - 180 578 series,
with a 137 book average.

	Next week.

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From: v060p9rr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (SYS$LOGIN:SIGNATURE.TXT)
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
Subject: problems with Phantom (blue)
Date: 9 Sep 92 01:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


	Just bought a used blue Phantom a couple of hours ago.  Bowled just

one game with it to test drilling.  It gave me a good roll from start to 

finish.  It was a big jump from my wine U-dot.  I was just wondering if 

there were any negative reactions from current and former Phantom owners.


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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: carl@wrs.com (Carl Chesbrough)
Subject: 7-10 split..... picked-up.
Summary: picked up 7-10 split
Keywords: split
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:29:13 GMT

Last night, during the first night of a new league at Earl Anthony's
Dublin Bowl, I left a "swishing" 7-10 split.  Being right handed, I
have a problem picking up 7 pins more thant 10 pins.  So, I figured
I would practice my shot at the 7 pin.  After seeing that I was going
to hit the 7 pin, I turned around (my mistake).  To my suprise, everyone
started saying that I got the 10 pin also.  WOW, picked up the 7-10
split and did not even see it :-(.  At least I will have a patch
to show for it.

BTW, I have been bowling for 15 years, does that mean I will have to
wait another 15 years before I pick it up again?  Last year I did
have my first (only) all spare game.  A 190 game, with nine 9-counts,
one 8 count and a strike on my fill ball.

Well, the next goal is a 300 ;-).

-Carl.
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: aki <aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org>
Subject: OK Here's the new balls that are available to the net!
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Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:35:21 GMT

The following are excerpts from the PBA on new balls.
As I posted earlier first responses to my post either
to this newsgroup or e-mail (preferred) gets the 
orders.  To be fair, please limit your order to one
ball only.
Please don't ask me anything about these balls, I don't
know anything about them, infact after you read  the info
below, you'll know as much as I do!

Ok here goes...

Faball Enterprises, Inc has informed us their Burgundy Hammer
is readily available to our membership and it has been cleared
for use in PBA competition beginning Oct 1, 1992.  The urethane
ball has a D-scale durometer reading of 75-79 and is available
in weights of 15 and 16 lbs.

PBA members can order one ball at $75 per ball, which includes
shipping and handling (within the Continental U.S.).  Balls must be 
ordered based on your home address by sending a check for the proper
amount to:...etc etc etc...Bowling balls will be shipped within five
business days and the offer expires October 9, 1992.

************

Champions Bowling Products, Corp., has informed us their Ultimate Weapon
balls are readily available to our membership and they have been cleared 
for PBA competition beginning Oct 1.1992.  The wine urethane ball has
a D-scale durometer reading of 76-78 and is available in weights of
14-16 lbs.  PBA members can purchase up to two balls at $75 per ball,
which includes shipping.  Please send your check, PBA number, ball
weight and shipping info (no P.O. boxes) to Champions Bowling
Products...etc etc etc.  Bowling balls will be shipped within five
business days and the offer expires Oct 23, 1992.

*******************
Ok that's it..first come, first served...

The burgundy hammer is probably designed to break alittle more to
accomidate the oilier conditions since the inception of the 3 unit
oiling imposed by the ABC effective 01 Jan 92.  Average retail
for hammers are mid $120's.

Champions Bowling products was formed by 5 pro bowlers (Dell
Ballard, Chris Warren, Norm Duke, and the rest evades me at the
moment).  The retail price for weapon balls are around $139.00.





-Aki
The Worldbank Wash. D.C.
E-mail: aki@akidamme-233324.worldbank.org
(202)458-1112
DoD 0628
PBA 2294
*************************************
"How come the best bowling ball for
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*************************************
Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: bkg@ssd.kodak.com (Ben K Gibson)
Subject: Update a.s.bowling honor roll
Originator: bkg@earth
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 11:09:46 GMT

Hello again, 

The response was rather enthusiastic for a the Honor Roll... So Lets get it
started. In order to submit scores/achievements, send e-mail to me
at bkg@ssd.kodak.com. I will compile the list in a summarized form similar to
the example below. Please keep the e-mail to 4 or 5 lines. Each Friday,
(or end of the week sometime) I will post the latest honor roll. I will keep the
list current so submit scores anytime. Please Include the following information.

Name, Scores/achievements, Date bowled, Comment.

I hope the list to look as follows:

ALT.SPORT.BOWLING Honor Roll

Week of mm/dd/yy:

245 195 187  627  bkg@ssd.kodak.com  (6 bagger in the first game... )
201 155 136  492  fred@myhome.com  (First 200 + game..)

Week of...

The criteria would be things such as Award Scores,
600+ series, bowling firsts, 7-10 splits, 225+games, and so on.
Also tournaments won or placed. Please e-mail me your suggestions as we progress
through the year

Thanks,

Ben
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KKK  KKK  Ben K. Gibson                           E-mail: bkg@ssd.kodak.com
KK Kodak  Eastman Kodak Company                   Phone:  (716)588-4313
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Newsgroups: alt.sport.bowling
From: bkg@ssd.kodak.com (Ben K Gibson)
Subject: WEEKLY HONOR ROLL
Originator: bkg@earth
Organization: Eastman Kodak
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 19:01:43 GMT

ALT.SPORT.BOWLING HONOR ROLL
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////o//
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///////////////>////////////////////////////////////////o/////o/////
/////////////>////////////////////////////////////_ 1993///o/////o//
///////////>///ALT.SPO///////////////OR ROLL 1992 ////////////o///// 
//////////////////////RT.BOWLING HON/////////////////////////////o//
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
WEEK ENDING 9/11/92:

212 200 233 - 645 Tim Burgess (Mixed Doubles League)
233 257 657 - 657 Tim Burgess (5 Man League... New Sumo)  
279 255 235 - 769 Wayne Deane (1st 8 in game 1, 1st 7 in game 2)
169 225 155 - 549 Dave Fleck (Sumo and Oil don't Mix!)
158 204 230 - 592 Ben Gibson (I had to include myself this week)
Picked up 7-10    Carl Chesbrough (and he didn't even see it!)

WEEK ENDING 9/18/92:

NOTE: To submit scores to the honor roll e-mail them to bkg@ssd.kodak.com

Thanks,

Ben

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KK Kodak  Eastman Kodak Company                   Phone:  (716)588-4313
KKK  KKK  Rochester, NY 
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