HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Steroid (and more)
Date: 30 Jul 92 09:24:14 GMT
Reply-To: jlam@ariel.ucs.unimelb.edu.au (Lord Automato)
Organization: University of Melbourne

In article <9207291607.AA02778@celal.usc.edu>, xbf@CELAL.USC.EDU (Bofu Xiong) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul29.103411.17912@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> huangzh@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Andy Huang) writes:
|> <=>
|> <=>I don't want to say another about Chinese athletes. Those who really want
|> <=>to know the truth should make some friends from the national women's
|> <=>teams whose sports require strong muscle (not famous ping-peng team please!)
|> <=>then start by asking the question like "how do you postpone a women athlete's
|> <=>period if it happens to be during the game?" ...then you would know what to 
|> <=>ask next.
|> 
|> Do you think only Chinese women athletes know the secret?
|> 
|> or
|> 
|> Do you think only Chinese women athletes need to postpone periods?
|> 

I suppose this has not been some sort of secrets at all, there are plenty
of drugs which control the secretion of hormones which in turns control
the menstral cycles. IT IS NOT NEW.

Lin Can
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From: leung@DSG.Tandem.COM (Steven Leung)
Subject: Re: Mao vs. Deng (Re: incident)
Organization: Tandem Computers
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 14:05:28 GMT

"Qian1 Qiu1 Gong1 Zui4, Shui2 Ren2 Ceng2 Yu2 Ping2 Shuo1."

						- Mao

Steven
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From: yjj@janus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang)
Subject: Re: Steriods. (was Re: Chicago Tribune: How Zhuang won gold medal)
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:49:39 GMT
X-Posted-From: janus.ctr.columbia.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul29.012550.2673@objy.com> cw@orion.uucp (C.W. Chung) writes:
>    In article <Bs3u8v.Iv4@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu> xlli@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (xiao-lin li) writes:
>    >In article <1992Jul28.144525.24505@athena.mit.edu> zhuh@athena.mit.edu (Hui Zhu) writes:
>(By the way, WSJ is probably the best and less-biased major US publication when
>it comes to international affairs.)  The 3 medalist and the fourth competitor
>have to go through drug testing.  The athelete has to come out with a urine
>sample within an hour under the direct monitoring of a nurse or a doctor,
>and within an hour, a special envoy is assigned to escort the athelete and
>make sure the athelete is in sight all the time.  The identity of urine sample 
You are talking about Olympic track and Field.  Olympic swimming only
does random drug test.
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Immigration & Refugee Service For Mainland Chinese  (forward for Mr.Zheng Yi)
Date: 24 Jul 92 06:45:36 GMT
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From: junzhang@acpub.duke.edu (Huilai Zhang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: test
Keywords: test
Date: 30 Jul 92 19:38:11 GMT

Hello everybody! This is a test. Sorry.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: yuan@saturn.eecs.nwu.edu (Ya-Xiang Yuan)
Subject: Re: NBC Commentators talking about China
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 09:08:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.205144.13921@ctr.columbia.edu> yjj@janus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang) writes:
>In article <1992Jul28.073313.31615@eecs.nwu.edu> yuan@saturn.eecs.nwu.edu (Ya-Xiang Yuan) writes:
>>In article <1992Jul27.213259.29797@ctr.columbia.edu> yjj@prometheus.ctr.columbia.edu (Yuan Jiang) writes:
>>....
>>....
>>>
>>>A Chinese women swimmer (Zhuang Yong?) was banned from competetion
>>
>>  Please give details! Which swimmer? banned by which organisation?
>>  banned from which competetion? for how long? ....??????
>>
>>    If you can not remember what you claimed " a few years ago", how
>>could I trust what you said about your school time?
>
>What proof?  A video tape?  Sorry I don't have.
    
   No, I did not ask for your proof. I just want to find out what you
    really remember by saying "remember a Chinese women swimmer
    (Zhuang Yong?) was banned from competetion". A person with a bad
    memory  can often make false statements.

>
>I heard and read that hundreds and possibly over a thousand of people were
>killed on 6/4/98 in Beijing by PLA.  But, sorry, I don't have a video tape
>to show it.

    if you say something about Li Peng, , I am fine. if you could
    do something about Li Peng, I would be happy. 

    Judging an athlete's gender by his/her face might be wrong. Accusing 
    an athlete simply because you do not like the government of his/her country 
    is surely wrong. >

>You may say that western journlists have been lying or taken too much

     I think that I can say that western journlists sometimes can make
    reports that are untrue. For examplee, the US media did not give 
    Americans the true picture of the Vietnam war during the first
    few months of the war.



-- 
Ya-xiang Yuan,  Computing Centre, Academia Sinica, BEIJING
From: wang@pennmess.physics.upenn.edu ( Huangxin Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: New Discovery of Steroid Potentiality
Date: 30 Jul 92 04:58:16 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania
Originator: wang@pennmess.physics.upenn.edu


[From VPI 7/29]

Scientific discovery can occur any time, even when the world is heated with the
Olympia game.

Recently, the reporters from the United States made a breakthrough
discovery that steroid can enhance not only stength of an athelete, but
also soon fine skills such as shooting or win a gold in mathematics
olympiad.

There are several seemingly isolated events that lead the reporters to
this scientific conclusion.

China has picked up a few golds and silvers in swiming in the recent
92-Olympia.  China has never win any gold in these items before.

"They may use drug [or may not].  Before they are tested [and get
caught], we cannot do anything about it."  Said one American swimming
team coach.

"Especially consider the fact that there are only 60 swimming pools
in China," remarked a "Time" magazine reporter.

China also won some medals in shooting.

NRA (National Rifle Association [of the US]) is now considering to
apply this new scientific discovery for enhancement of shooting skills
--- by distributing steroid to its members

In recent month, Chinese high school teams carried away golds in the
international mathematics, chemistry olympiads.

According to a Freudian psychiatrist, steroid can enhance the dreaming
ability, which might [or might not] related to mathematical ability and
other fine skills.

"Our discovery wouldn't be valuable if we could not use it to make a
prediction."  said a spokesman for the US reporter's association at the
news conference when this discovery was anounced.  "We predict that
steroid can enhance the skill of platform diving."

As an unrelated [or related] event, Fu Mingxia of China won a gold in
platform diving.


[VPI - "Very Possible Information"]
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Huangxin Wang ~{Muh+vN~}, University of Pennsylvania
From: jqtan@coos.dartmouth.edu (Jianqi Tan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Chinese Female & Male Athletes in Olympics
Date: 30 Jul 92 03:43:31 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <1992Jul30.014202.1484@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> chiaki10@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Kwan Y Mok) writes:
>
>Given that the gap does exist between Westerners and Chinese men in physiques,
>does anyone has any suggestion, good ideas on how China can shorten this gap?
>How can China improve on male sports that require bulk and strength?

Castration?
>
>
>						-- A Person Frustrated About
>						   the Lost of yet Another
>						   Springboard Diving Gold
From: ZGAO@FINABO.ABO.FI
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: VCR could be brought into China since July, 1992.
Date: 22 Jul 92 12:32:00 GMT

Hi everybody,
A few days ago, I met a group of chinese sailors in Finland. They told
me that video camera (tax-free) could be brought into China, and three 
tax-free objects (Da4 jian4) were allowable for one year since July of 1992.
But I haven't seen any offical announcement yet.
Can anybody confirm this news ?


Zhiqiang Gao from Turku,  Finland
From: xiaofei@acsu.buffalo.edu (XiaoFei Wang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: [Olympics] FU Mingxia Won Gold / Medals Standings & Details
Date: 27 Jul 92 18:54:19 GMT
Organization: Physics Dept, State U of New York at Buffalo, Buffalo, NY 14260

/* From the keyboard of xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong) */:
:Fu Mingxia won Gold
:
Thanks CND for timely reporting. My impression is CND is quicker than
CNN. Please keep the good work. 

I have two questions: 
1) Who are in the united team?
2) the China's two gold medals are won by two Gui1 Nuu3's ?
   Which Gui1 Er2's can win gold medals ? 
Thanks. 

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From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: One from a too old man for QY's /I\ (small) talk.  Re: How to translate?
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:50:18 GMT

In article <9207241305.AA16216@phloem.uoregon.edu> Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu writes:
>
>          The original is:
>
>              "jiang1 shan1 yi1 jiu4 zai4,
>               ji3 du4 xi1 yang2 hong2."

   Chinese literature can be full of multiple meanings in a
given context. This helps people to think by themselves. So 
people may have their distinct understandings of the same 
work. Here is one from a layman.

   Its meaning is: Still around us is -- as ever -- the "SAME" 
world, which too many things had occurred inside.  But how many  
memoriable events are still with/in us? 
(This is in a very sentimental tone, no good for babies. "Jimmy,
Jimmy please don't cry, ...")
From: kenw@austlcm.sps.mot.com 
Subject: Re: Question for Shi Chunde
Organization: Motorola Inc., Austin, Texas
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 16:56:15 GMT

In article <tGV-B8@engin.umich.edu> chen@caen.engin.umich.edu (Jian Chen) writes:
>
>The civil war does not change the status of Taiwan just like the civil war in
>United States does not change the status of southern states. China has the legal
>claim on the territory Taiwan. Chinese people has all of the legal rights on 
>the territory Taiwan.
>
>
>J Chen
>Department of Chemistry
>University of Michigan

You are right in part. The Civil War did not change the status of China just 
like the Civil War did not change the status of Taiwan - a part of ROC. prc
does not have any legal right on the territory of Taiwan.
From: 910575a@darwin.ntu.edu.au
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: 3 respectfuls (Was RE: Curious!)
Date: 21 Jul 92 15:07:47 +0900

> 
> SAN1 CHONG2 (3 respects for): the king of the coutry, and the parents of the
> family.
> 
This is the new version of San Cong, 
especially for the school girls. :-)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: cw@orion.uucp (C.W. Chung)
Subject: Re: My feelings
Organization: Objectivity Inc.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 20:39:48 GMT

In article <9207291603.AA13044@phloem.uoregon.edu> Tuya@ccmail.uoregon.edu writes:
>
>          Hi, folks, 
>             It might not be appropriate to decide whose is the hero
>          based on win or lose (cheng2 bai4 lun4 ying1 xiong2), but as
>          the number of medals goes up, I do feel stimulated!

I feel very good about what the Chinese athletes have done so far!

>             I walk on the street and feel considerably taller, and I
>          began to be pretty arrogant in classes.  I intentionally
>          change the topic of meetings to Olympic game, and tell
>          people I was really surprised how few medals the U.S. has
>          won.

Well, there is no need to belittle what US has done either.  After all,
they have not even one-fourth population of China.

>             I am most proud of the fact that Chinese also win medals
>          in almost purely physical things like swimming.  In the past
>          I only trusted on chinese brains and chinese food, not
>          limbs.  So this is really a boost of confidence!  I vow I am
>          going to start swimming, too!  At least I can beat a couple
>          of high school drop-outs.

>             IMHO, we chinese is at a point where we need mostly
>          cow-boy kind of people instead of Jia3 baoyu kind of people.
>          What do you think?  
>

Well, before we congratulate ourselves, it should be kept in mind that
it is really the Chinese *women* who are carrying the weight in swimming, 
track and field, volleyball, basketball, and many other sport. Chinese men
still have a long way to go!

Even if the Chinese men can catch up the best, the proof of the pudding,
in my opinin, is the general raise of the physical ability of *all*
Chinese, not just a few elites.

 -cw-
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From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Give Me a Break: China to Buy Ford Tempos from U.S.
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:24:49 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <4020@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.174436.21588@> jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu writes:
>>>I used to be a used-car buyer ;-)
>>
>>You mean you are not now. Really sorry for you.
>
>Why? My wife and me both drive new cars now :) We have yet to experience
>American cars though.

You don't even know why, now I feel more sorry for you :-)

I guess it really depends on what you want from a car. My criteria
are "fun" and "interesting". For the price of a new cheapo Saturn-Sentra-
Carolla, you get endless selections of fun and interesting *matured* cars.
I don't call them used car, since most of them are just break in.

Of course you have to spend considerably more effort to find Mr. Right.
From: jialin@dogwood.botany.uga.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: Give Me a Break: China to Buy Ford Tempos from U.S.
Date: 29 Jul 92 21:32:21 GMT
Organization: Botany Department - U of Georgia, Athens

In article <3963@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> yding+@pitt.edu (Yijun Ding) writes:
>
>>>[OK you know how much I hate the Tempo by now. :-)]
>
>I disagree only when the poster say Tempo is bad, but Taura's is good.
>The former is 4 cylinder, the later is 6 cylinder if I am correct.  I
>have owned a few cars, all of them 4 cylinder.  I think Tempo is a good
>choice if China have to buy American cars at all.  It surely cost less
>and more efficient on gas. 

Don't know if the Tempo will save you gas, probably will because it stays
in the shop most of the time, but the Taurus is a junk too except the
SHO version. But it has a Yamaha engine in it. 

> >When I lived in Delaware, my landlord is GM worker.  All different cars
>use the exactly same engine.  If you say Tempo is out-dated, why the
>other cars designed by the same company is good?

All 486 use the same intel-inside, why they perform differently?
And all computers use the same scilicon, why some are so much faster?
The questions just go on.

Does the GM landlord still own his house? :-) 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: Yi.Zhang@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Yi Zhang)
Subject: test
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 20:04:14 GMT


test sending news from bbs

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From: zzuo@iastate.edu (Zhiqi Zuo)
Subject: Re: China goes for broke
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 21:08:42 GMT

In article <712421706.23042@minster.york.ac.uk> yong@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
>There is an article in the recent issue of british Economist magazine
>(July 24 1992), which said that Deng's recent drive for faster economy
>is a "go for broke".
>
>The author seems to imply that 10% increase rate in economy over
>inflation rate is not realistic for China, although South Korea
>has done this during 1965-1988. He seems to point out thate the 
>real problem is to sort out the state entrepreneurs which lose money. 
>He is afraid of another event in 1992/3 like the Tiananmen event 1988/9.

It is unwise to let common people to meet the hard impact of a too high
inflation, companying a too faster increase rate in economy.
From: kao@capmkt.COM (Shao-Kong Kao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Medals Table
Keywords: GOLD, SILVER, BRONZE
Date: 29 Jul 92 00:38:02 GMT
Organization: Capital Market Technology

OLYMPIC MEDALS TABLE - TUESDAY  

                      GOLD  SILVER BRONZE
 CIS                    8      5     2 
 CHINA                  5      7     2
 HUNGARY                5      2     1                   
 UNITED STATES          4      4     8
 GERMANY                2      1     4
 SOUTH KOREA            3      0     1
 SPAIN                  2      0     0                   
 JAPAN                  1      2     1                   
 BULGARIA               1      2     0                   
 AUSTRALIA              1      1     2
 CUBA                   1      1     0 
 TURKEY                 1      0     0
 NORWAY                 1      0     0                   
 FRANCE                 0      2     5
 SWEDEN                 0      2     1
 ITALY                  0      1     3
 ROMANIA                0      1     2                   
 BRAZIL                 0      1     0                   
 BRITAIN                0      1     0                   
 PERU                   0      1     0
 POLAND                 0      1     0 
 NETHERLANDS            0      0     3
 FINLAND                0      0     1                   
 MONGOLIA               0      0     1
 SURINAM                0      0     1
 YUGOSLAVS              0      0     1
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: wang@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU
Subject: Re: China has only 60 swimming pools
Reply-To: wang@BAEPV2.NCSU.EDU
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:58:00 GMT


     At least in my home county, there are two swimming pool. It is just a 
county town, not a big city. 

     A magazine like Time published this kind of articl low its reputation.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
From: xiong@bsu-cs.bsu.edu (Bo Xiong)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: [Olympics] Medals Standings (thru 5 events at July 26, 12:00 EST)
Date: 26 Jul 92 18:21:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: bronze.1992Jul26.182156.4928
Organization: Indiana University

The latest China-related Olympics News can be found in CND-Global during 
the Barcelona Summer Olympics.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------
From:  CND Sources
Original Source: Dow Jones News:    07/26
Summer Olympics: Medals Standings  (As of Sun, 26 Jul 92 12:06:06 EST)

        (THROUGH FIVE EVENTS)
COUNTRY       GOLD SILVER BRONZE TOTAL
China            1      1      0     2   (See notes below)
United States    1      1      0     2
Germany          1      0      1     2
South Korea      1      0      0     1
Unified Team     1      0      0     1
Bulgaria         0      1      0     1
Italy            0      1      0     1
Hungary          0      1      0     1
Australia        0      0      1     1
France           0      0      1     1
Independent Team 0      0      1     1
(Yugoslavia)
Sweden           0      0      1     1   

1) Zhuang Yong won a gold in 100m women's free-style swim.  She broke Olympics 
   Record but not WR.

2) Li Lin won a silver in women's 400m medley.

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Forwarded to SCC by Bo Xiong in Chicago
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 23:39:29 EDT
From: <XXX100@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re:Qiong yao's books

Let me discribe her books with her favorate drill:
Hao3 suan1 hao3 suan1 de.

X Xu