HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: aumantb@eclipse.msfc.nasa.gov (Tim Aumann)
Subject: Re: Macintosh IRC Client available
Followup-To: alt.irc
Organization: Boeing Computer Support Services
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 12:13:30 GMT

In article <14oijtINNpjk@iraul1.ira.uka.de>, S_TITZ@iravcl.ira.uka.de (Olaf
Titz) wrote:
> 
lot's of stuff deleted....
> 
> According to the above description, this error should
> - appear only in windows being NOT active and
> - be possible to avoid by placing all windows non-overlapping.
> If it indeed does occur in an active window, there is still another
> bug which I should track down.
> 
Sorry, Olaf, but the problem occurs on both active and inactive windows. I
haven't treied not having overlapping windows, but since the problem is
occurring in the active and therefore top window, I don't think that wil
make a difference.

BTW, this will be a great program once you track this bug.

> 
> MfG,
>         Olaf
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Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.stupidity,alt.flame
From: guddt@uniwa.uwa.edu.au (David Bennett)
Subject: Re: WANTED: USER'S GUIDE TO IRC LOVE
Organization: University of Western Australia
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 18:52:05 GMT

Carl.von.Loesch@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Carl von Loesch) writes:

>dogden@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (To be born again first you have to die.) writes:
>>*I* have a working irc relationship that is great in real life..or 
>     ^^^^ have?
>>hopefully will be as soon as we meet in just a couple weeks..and don't
>                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ah you don't
>>say we are fooling eachother because we have already gotten over all
>>the lying to eachother crap that you have to go through..and you know
>>we are determined to make it work.. *smirk*
>        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

>This is the most pathetic statement of computer geek love desperados
>I've ever read in my networking life.

>Where has this planet come to?

>No, I did _not_ meet my girl on irc.
>IRC is a communication tool, not a hideaway from reality.

Great.  Wonderful.  I suppose you never spoke to your girl before you
went out with her?  I take it you never met at all in fact.  It just
happened that one day bang she was there, altough I forgot, you have
never met.

Must be fun, haveing a girl you have never met and never spoken too.

David.
[DDT] Pink fish forever.
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: ira@virtual.rdrc.rpi.edu (Ira Lee)
Subject: IRC slow response time.
Organization: Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, Troy NY
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 15:41:36 GMT

Hello.  I have just installed IRC (server and clients) on our
machines here and have been having some trouble with delays
with the irc clients.  Especially when starting up it takes
a long time for the clients to get ready to join any channels.

I am not connecting to any remote servers.  I am running my own
server as a chat for a small group.  Is there a setting in
the ircd.conf I can set?

Thanks in advance for any help. 
bye!
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Useless Bots
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:34:28 GMT
Organization: Aston University
Status: R

Hopefully the editor wont 'nuke; this again.
dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:
: 
: MrBot is not a good example of a useful bot :)
: 
: First of all, his 'email' address : asshole@192.41.205.7.  I can't even
: telnet to this host (Host is Unreachable), so I can't even finger him, but
: if I could, I really doubt asshole is the real user-id of his owner.
: (His owner is Hendrix, jimi@sarge.hq.Verdix.COM.)
I was able to finger the host easily.
The machine identifys itself as halftrack.hq.verdix.com.
A forward lookup works (looks like sloppy DNS management here)
sarge.hq.verdix.com does NOT have a user called jimi (or for that matter a
sendmail alias for that name)
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From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Re: IRC Rules: All Newbies listen up !
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 18:13:34 GMT

In article <14jbacINNop8@network.ucsd.edu> irc@weber.ucsd.edu (WEBER:IRC) writes:

>*SIGH* I'm really sick and tired of the type of people like yourself (who 
>in this instance, happen to be from Europe ) resorting to all sorts of 
>ethnic stereotypings and slanderings in order to convey what can only be 
>termed as uninformed, uneducated and bias "arguments."

Too bad he's telling the truth, from my experience.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Subject: Re: IRC STAT 3 (ranked)
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 10:09:43 GMT
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...

thecure@ee.mu.OZ.AU (the cure) was telling me...
>[Fa]      = "fan out" = bytes sent/bytes received 
>[Overall] = Fa*(clients+servers)

I would have emailed this but I figured other people might like to know.

Was there any real changes in the rankings with this new method of
getting efficeintly compared to the last one?

-Alex

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From: asamonte@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Just some loser...)
Subject: Re: Death to BAD CRAZINESS !
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 07:05:22 GMT
Organization: Nothing worth mentioning...

kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry) was telling me...
>In article <76696@ut-emx.uucp> dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren) writes:
>>*** DemoN has changed the topic on channel #Hottub to nobody likes me
>> +everybody hates me think I'll go e (eat worms ... got cut off :()
>> 
>>331 Bad Craziness (from toaster.sfsu.edu)
>>331 Bad Craziness (from coyote.cs.wmich.edu)
>>331 Bad Craziness (from sakura.ces.kyutech.ac.jp)
>>331 Bad Craziness (from blue.cc.hokudai.ac.jp)
>>
>>Isn't it about time that we did away with these, and perhaps the other,
>>slightly newer 2.6 servers?
>
>But I *like* Bad Craziness.  In fact, I'm starting a new IRC server
>which will do nothing but spew bad craziness--as well as good craziness
>and plain old ordinary craziness--throughout the world.  After all, bad

As amatter of fact I was thinking about this the other day, and I thought.
Is there such a thing as 'good craziness'?  Perplexed me for a while.
Then I thought...well if I was facing a murder charge, craziness might
be deemed 'good'.  But other than that...I dunno.

Anyone have an opinion?

-Alex

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From: S_TITZ@IRAV1.IRA.UKA.DE (Olaf Titz)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: again: Macintosh IRC client
Date: 22 Jul 92 10:36:00 GMT

[This is sent via ucbvax in the hope that it comes through; our
news server is full again]

To all you impatient Americans :-)

Thanks for your responses.
Unfortunately, I am NOT able to distribute programs via mail as I have
a limited mail quota.

ircle-0.3.1.sit.hqx can now be found at
  ftp.ira.uka.de (129.13.10.90)
  /pub/systems/mac
(not during European business hours, please)
The other site I've mentioned has no uploads, sorry.

I have also mailed it to macgifts@mac.archive.umich.edu from which it
will be uploaded to several places in the U.S., as I've been told.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: StarWatcher@uiuc.edu (StarWatcher)
Subject: Re: Patriot Games
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Reply-To: StarWatcher@uiuc.edu
Organization: UIUC Actuarial Science Program
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 03:30:50 GMT
Keywords: significant words from a document used as an index to content

adean@weber.ucsd.edu (Anthony V. Dean) writes:
: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) wrote :
: >
: >being an American and as such, identified with you.
: 
: You identify with me? I can take your name calling, but dont insult
: me by saying you identify with me. Dream on, boy!

Erm.... if I read the original article correctly, Greg was saying that
he wasn't fond of being identified with you, because y'all are
grouped together under the label "American IRC user."  I don't
think he was saying that he identified with you.

In the same fashion, I am not fond of being grouped with a bunch of
net.geeks simply because I am on IRC from the US, and there happen
to be a disproportianate number of net.geeks on IRC from the US....
To get even more specific, substitute 'UIUC' for 'US' in the previous
sentence....

0.5 of a :-)
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From: thecure@ee.mu.OZ.AU (the cure)
Subject: Call for submission on layout of stats.
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering - University of Melbourne 
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 08:47:53 GMT

You may recall I posted a list of servers a little while ago
and there was some debate over whether 200+ servers were too many.

Well, I'm compiling stats, and I am at a loss to decide how to lay them out.

I'll show what I've done so far... (just a snippit)

------------------

                        Server Name [ Outgoing/s] [ Incoming/s]
                                    [Byte] [Pckt] [Byte] [Pckt]

                    CSULX.Weber.EDU [0283] [0007] [0089] [0002]
                      Engr.uark.edu [0032] [0000] [0066] [0001]
                   Minsk.DoCS.UU.SE [0046] [0001] [0063] [0001]
                        SantaFe.edu [0059] [0000] [0075] [0002]
                     TU-Muenchen.DE [0388] [0009] [0176] [0003]
                           UCSD.EDU [0085] [0001] [0094] [0002]
                          Uni-KL.DE [0026] [0000] [0078] [0002]
                   Uni-Paderborn.DE [0095] [0003] [0082] [0002]
                     aapo.it.lut.fi [0009] [0000] [0042] [0001]
              adagio.fy.chalmers.se [0019] [0000] [0068] [0001]

------------------

At the moment, it's sorted alphabetically. I'd like to list the servers
by the amount of work they do. What is the _best_ indicator of which
server does more , etc, than another. (ie - vanity servers would come
waaay down the bottom.)

ltr.

cwoin$##3nSubliminalwcempoemindcontrolc89jJ(*#(B##4ilb3ibfuibtrytoresist3998n33
*83h(*(h934h2p3youareunderIBiuyb3540phaHP945MYCONTROLmnn098v98n93spot098fj3209f
ff8n922vwoinoibevaniojnvoinwedanielcenoiwnew3emmangonccoc3234#4xen#oij435oijjio
98fh3298h4gh9gbyepepsi98hc98hC(*(*h3justsayccoinweoin#o43ooinfpsychologyfihu#34
From: adean@weber.ucsd.edu (Anthony V. Dean)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Patriot Games
Date: 23 Jul 92 02:07:25 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl) wrote :
>Well, the Finn didn't engage in ethnic slandering -- he merely said
>that many people from the US on IRC are immature jerks, like you. That

Ooo name calling! That hurts me so much.

>strikes me as a fairly straight-forward truth, not slander of any
>form. As for why he'd make this statement, it has to do with him being
>provoked.
>It's quite simple.
I expect as much from you, a simple mind.
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: jason@coombs.anu.edu.au (jason..)
Subject: Re: Useless Bots
Organization: Computer Services Centre, Australian National University
Date: 28 Jul 92 10:40:30 GMT

evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans) writes:

>oren@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Oren Kastner) writes:
>: already too many of those around.  I'm stressing here the fact that this is
>: NOT a client that the average joe can compile and keep in his/her account
>: [resources permitting], but a server that needs extra attention and a Sys
>: Admin's approval to make it into an offical resource.
>(what extra attention? if someone can compile a client they can just as
>easily compile a server)

er just a small note here. it is conceivable you can get the client ..figure out how to uncompress and untar it , type in make .. and get a client ..(finding it might take u a little while if you really are that green :)..about the only 
thing i can think of that you might have to set is the default server..
but you would get a usable client ..

try doing that with ircd and you probably find it cant find your ircd.conf..
that is if you knew what it was etc..

id say there is a big difference between getting the client working and the 
server.. totally out of context to this argument of course.. but i wanted to
point it out :)

-jason
Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: kibo@world.std.com (James "Kibo" Parry)
Subject: Re: Death to BAD CRAZINESS !
Followup-To: alt.politics.kibo
Organization: Kibo's all-volunteer campaign headquarters, Tulsa, Oklahoma
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 07:09:28 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.175340.13367@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu> (kamchar@ibm.cl.msu.edu (SunCat)) writes:
>Bad craziness is *bad*.  Good craziness keeps the world safe for 
>for democracy.  It might even work within the US borders.

Vote for Kibo for President!  Kibo promises to help spread Good
Craziness throughout the US and the world!  Kibo promises to stamp out
Time-Life books!  Kibo promises never to add another color marshmallow
to Lucky Charms!  Kibo promises to give free haircuts!  Kibo promises
to make Sam Donaldson's eyebrows follow the laws of physics!  Kibo
promises that 'Star Trek' will never again do a plot about a time warp!
Kibo promises to meet with ANY world leader who will buy lunch!
Kibo promises to make more promises when he thinks of them!

							-- K.
From: evansmp@uhura.aston.ac.uk (Mark Evans)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: IRC Helpfile part 2 (was Re: IRC information)
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:44:12 GMT
Organization: Aston University

IO00058@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Rob Blais) writes:
:      Commands marked with an asterisk (*) are propagated across
: the entire network and should be used sparingly to save bandwidth
: and avoid confusion.

: MSG: *
Wrong, this command is routed only to the nick (or nicks on the
channel) you have specified. 
It is not broadcast!
(in fact 'normal' talking is translated into PRIVMSG <channel> <message>
PRIVMSG is in fact the real command)

: NOTICE: *
This is treated exactly the same as NOTICE and is also not boadcast.

: QUERY: *
(this works by just having the client prepend PRIVMSG <nick> to whatever
you type with out a / at the beginning)

: WALLOPS: *
(this is routed only to users who have +w mode set on their usermode)

: /:
(/query <channelname> should do exactly the same thing)

You appear to be confused by the two sorts of propergation IRC uses
1) to send only to a specific set of users (PRIVMSG, NOTICE)
2) Broadcast to the whole net (JOIN, LEAVE, QUIT, NICK, MODE, TOPIC, KICK)
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: RUTGES_ASS@RUGB38.BDK.RUG.NL (ass. A.Rutges (I&O))
Subject: Re: Difficulties with IRC Client
Organization: Faculty of Management Studies, University of Groningen (NL)
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 12:29:54 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

In <1992Jul30.161600.24033@bcrka451.bnr.ca> jonathan.abrams@bnr.ca writes:

> My situation is causing me to have some difficulties in running
> an IRC client.  At work, all internet access is directed through
> a gateway.  I have access to TELNET. FTP, and EMAIL, but I am
> unable to run other programs that use the Internet.  I can however
> telnet to a VAX/VMS account I have which can run programs that use
> internet.  The problem there is that I have not been able to get
> the VMS IRC Client to compile.  I think I would probably need an
> executable version.  In addition, I have very limited storage 
> space on the VAX and it would have to be small...
> 
> I understand that the TELNETable IRC Clients are for temporary use
> only, so I need to figure out how to get myself a suitable client
> running somewhere.
> 
> 

If you need a client that runs under VMS, check out the an. ftp site
COOMBS.ANU.EDU.AU

somewhere down the /pub/irc path there should be an IRC173.COM file
in the VMS subdir, that will give you a reasonable client on VMS-sites.
Mark, that is the VMS machine runs under Wollongong TCP/IP sftw., there
will be certain problems. Mail me, if this is the case.

Greetings,

Tijs Coumans
Computer Simulation + VAX/VMS Expert
Faculty of Management Studies, University of Groningen (The Netherlands)
Mail: RUTGES_ASS @ RUGB38.BDK.RUG.NL
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Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: gl8f@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Greg Lindahl)
Subject: Re: Problems with certain people ...
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 02:28:02 GMT

In article <WRIGHT.92Jul29202854@aesc.cs.odu.edu> wright@aesc.cs.odu.edu (GENTLEMAN) writes:

>Hmmm.....let me correct this story as I recall it:  Scott sent
>you an ascii file of a middle finger.

No, Scott started repeatedly dumping me a file with bells and a middle
finger. But that was one of many times Scott has dumped on other
people. It's a shame that he hasn't grown up. Were he still at ODU, I
would have already written ODU's management about it.
Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.stupidity,alt.flame
From: Carl.von.Loesch@arbi.informatik.uni-oldenburg.de (Carl von Loesch)
Subject: Re: WANTED: USER'S GUIDE TO IRC LOVE
Organization: University of Oldenburg, Germany
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 14:54:55 GMT

dogden@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (To be born again first you have to die.) writes:
>*I* have a working irc relationship that is great in real life..or 
     ^^^^ have?
>hopefully will be as soon as we meet in just a couple weeks..and don't
                   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ah you don't
>say we are fooling eachother because we have already gotten over all
>the lying to eachother crap that you have to go through..and you know
>we are determined to make it work.. *smirk*
        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

This is the most pathetic statement of computer geek love desperados
I've ever read in my networking life.

Where has this planet come to?

No, I did _not_ meet my girl on irc.
IRC is a communication tool, not a hideaway from reality.
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Newsgroups: alt.irc,alt.stupidity,alt.flame
From: dogden@moose.uvm.edu.UUCP (To be born again first you have to die.)
Subject: Re: WANTED: USER'S GUIDE TO IRC LOVE
Originator: dogden@moose.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 13:16:19 GMT


SUPERMAN

*I* have a working irc relationship that is great in real life..or 
hopefully will be as soon as we meet in just a couple weeks..and don't
say we are fooling eachother because we have already gotten over all
the lying to eachother crap that you have to go through..and you know
we are determined to make it work.. *smirk*

Shaitan







Newsgroups: alt.irc
From: dougmc@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Doug McLaren)
Subject: Re: A bunch of prejudiced people.
Organization: Doug's House of Disco
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 17:30:42 GMT
X-Posted-From: dopey.cc.utexas.edu
X-Posted-Through: sol.ctr.columbia.edu

In article <1992Jul23.093009.13594@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE> stumpf@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Markus Stumpf) writes:

: My apologies to all Americans, who are not IrcOp for EGO reasons and are not
: IrcAdmins for EGO reasons and felt that I have addressed my flame to
: them! This is NOT what I wanted!

: 1) That the biggest contingent of IRC Servers is from US
: 2) That most of them are there for EGO reasons (and so not really needed)
: 3) That most of the Ops in US are Ops for EGO reasons (and so not really needed)!
: 4) That most of the admins of THOSE servers and THOSE Ops think that US is
:   the best ... rules the world and this stuff.
: 5) That most of THEM should consult a psychiater!


#1) Granted.  Of course, the biggest contingent of IRCusers are in the US too.
    But it wouldn't suprise me if the old .edu has a higher server/user
    ratio than most of the rest of the world, too ...

#2-#4 : Replace US with your favorite country, be it Germany, Australia,
   etc... and it is probably still true.

#5) Since when does having an oversized ego mean you have to see a shrink ? :)

: 1), 2) and 3) I think are facts.

#1 may be.  #2 and #3 are opinions, not facts.  I may agree, but it's still
  an opinion.

My $0.02 worth on this tired old topic ...
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From: adean@weber.ucsd.edu (Anthony V. Dean)
Newsgroups: alt.irc
Subject: Re: Patriot Games
Date: 24 Jul 1992 07:21:33 GMT
Organization: University of California at San Diego
NNTP-Posting-Host: weber.ucsd.edu

gja@mullian.ee.mu.oz.au (Grenville Armitage) wrote :
>My opinion is that you talk to much, about very little, with no content.
>Only my opinion, mind.
>gja

And that it is.
And *my* opinion is you understand little, talk little and think it means alot.

>--
>you're still not one of the americans that
>greg was offering to apologise on behalf of. By definition." - A. Nahl

Gee man, no kidding!!! Are we back to square one, now? 
Well, I guess it's better than sitting here picking my nose.
Are we put-off yet?
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