From: underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe)
Subject: Re: Civic LX, Saturn SL1.. what else should I consider...
Keywords: pl. suggest choices...
Organization: Miners for a Heart of Gold
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 92 05:54:46 GMT

In article <Bz3EM3.2Js@news.cso.uiuc.edu> cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
(Baka na Chuugokujin) writes:
>In article <1992Dec11.010613.12778@leland.Stanford.EDU>
>underdog@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dwight Joe) writes:
>>First, I'll make some suggestions in that price range; then, I'll make a
>>comment.
>>     Nissan:  Sentra
>>       Ford:  Escort
>>    Mercury:  Tracer
>> Mitsubishi:  Mirage
>>      Dodge:  Colt
>>   Plymouth:  Colt
>>      Eagle:  Summit
>>     Toyota:  Corolla
>>        Geo:  Prizm
>>  Chevrolet:  Cavalier
>>    Hyundai:  Scoupe
>>      Honda:  Civic
>	There goes Mr. Joe again, spreading the s*!t like they do here in 
>Beautiful Central Illinois.  The Escort/Tracer/Protege or the Sentra are great
>cars.

But at least I use my real name and have the guts to stand by my words.
Since I don't know who this imposter is, I'll just call him bakanachuugokujin
or Mr. BNC for short.

>The SL1/SL shouldn't be too expensive, you could try to option out an

The original poster already pointed out that the type of Saturn he
desires is too expensive.

>SL, (I don't think that you will miss the P/S) and get it for about $12K.  But
>the Mazda/Ford and Nissan cars are great bets...

According to Consumer Reports, the reliability of Ford Escorts is worse
than Mercury Tracers, which are exactly average in the field.  That's not
something to be proud off, and certainly Mr. Honda is not rolling in his
grave.

>	A few words of advice:  The Civic between '85-'90 was the best car in 
>this class.  Now they are just out classed by about anything on the road in
>the class.  Oh, and glory, the guy (underdog) is putting a Scoupe in the same
>class as the other cars?  A two door sport coupe with a minimalist back seat
>and you want a sedan.

The original poster asked for vehicles in a give price range ($13,000 if
I recall correctly), and 2 Hyundais are in that price range.  The Scoupe
is one of them; I couldn't recall the other vehicle.

I was being fair and tried to list all the vehicles that I could think of
off the top of my head.  I reserved my comments for the end of the
post.  So, if he thought that my comments were crock, at least he still
had the list of cars which he could checkout at his convenience.

>Well, listen to him if you want...  Anyway, back to the
>chase...  I have driven a Civic from every model year since 1985, and can tell
>you, after driving numerous small cars this summer while helping a friend c
>choose, the Civic is maybe 4th overall in the class, with the three cars I 
>recommended 1/2/3 depending upon your needs...

Well, if he wants to listen to Mr. BNC then that's fine, but I still
recommend the Honda.  The J.D. Power's customer satisfaction report
for makes after _5_ years of ownership is convincing to me.  This is important
info for people who don't have money to throw away and who must keep
a car for a long time.  Honda is listed as #2 after Mercedes-Benz.

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