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From: phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin)
Subject: Re: 430 mhz band under th (now private/closed repeaters)
Organization: Telebit Corporation; Sunnyvale, CA, USA
	<PHR.93Jan1224845@napa.telebit.com>
	<1993Jan3.003515.6665@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
	<1993Jan3.160408.5192@ke4zv.uucp>
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:23:18 GMT

In article <1993Jan3.160408.5192@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman) writes:

   >In article <PHR.93Jan1224845@napa.telebit.com> phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:
   >>
   >>I am uncomfortable with the idea of using these bands with portable
   >>equipment because of the additional microwave exposure.  
   >
   >Paul brings up a good point. I for one would like to get into 1.2 GHz more, but
   >I am hesitant to use a u-wave transmitter in close proximity. I'm more likely
   >to go mobile or base with it. Tolerances at 1.2 GHz are much tighter, making 
   >homebrew equipment harder to produce and "appliances" more expensive.

   Cellular phones use a similar part of the spectrum and there isn't any
   hard evidence that they fry yuppie brains. :-)

I don't know about that.  Handheld cell phones are (or were)
limited to 600mw power because of fear of fried brains.
(mobile cell phones had up to 3 watts).  I think the regs
for handhelds may have changed.

Cell phones haven't been around long enough to watch long
term trends, but there is plenty of evidents of radar operators
getting more cataracts, etc.
From: delancy@chesapeake.ads.com (J.D. Delancy)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: IC-22U Modifications
Date: 11 Jan 93 17:03:57 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu


Does anyone have information of modifying an ICOM IC-22U
for operation out of band for MARS (AF) and CAP?
From: dube@cpdvax.CSc.ti.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Origin of "88's" and "73's" ?
Date: 8 Jan 93 22:40:28 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

88s?  73s?  How about "best 73s?
This says "best best regardses"    :)

73
Very 73
Dube Todd                    AB5AP                 <dube@cpdvax.csc.ti.com>
From: mauldin@ualr.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cq Rtty experts...
Date: 9 Jan 93 14:57:56 GMT
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

In article <1im183INNh74@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim 
Haynes) writes:
[...]
> Does anybody know of anything simpler?  I looked at HAMCOM, but gee it does
> its own modem and a lot of other stuff that I don't want.  All I want is
> a very simple ASCII-to-Baudot translation program; and I started to write
> one myself but then it occurred to me that maybe somebody else has
> already done it.  Just something that will turn a PC into a Baudot glass
> Teletype.

    You ought to do it in your existing program.  It probably wouldn't
add more than five lines of code.

    Making a Baudot-to-ASCII translation is the sort of task given to
beginning programming students.  I suspect that in this case as well,
the solution is being left as an exercise.  Hint: use the integer value
of the Baudot code as an index into an array of ASCII characters, or vice-
versa.  It is up to you to determine the proper order of the elements of this
array.

    You could, I suppose, use the technique employed by many students: 
find a friend or relative who is a programmer and get him/her to do it for you.

Regards,

Doug K5DH
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From: nagle@netcom.com (John Nagle)
Subject: Re: NASA Project Dante & Compressed Video?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 06:20:05 GMT

jeffj@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (jeffrey.n.jones) writes:
>In article <01GT47Y1CA0G8WVYPA@TSU.BITNET> PORTER04%TSU.BITNET@cunyvm.cuny.edu writes:
>>I am told that use of
>>DOMSATS in equatorial orbit is not possible, maybe INMARSAT? It all
>>looked very interesting>

     See recent messages in comp.robotics for further info.

						John Nagle
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: lkay@lynx.dac.northeastern.edu (leonard kay)
Subject: Re: DXCC Status of Czech and Slovakia?
Organization: Northeastern University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:35:00 GMT

In article <1682@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM>, 
tskelton@ncrclm.ClemsonSC.NCR.COM (Tom Skelton) writes:

> It was reported in the news that as of 1 January 1993, Czechoslavakia
> had agreed to split into two countries:  Czech and Slovakia.  Does
> .......
> It seems clear, from a DXCC standpoint, we will have 1 deletion and
> 2 new countries.I hope the DXAC and ARRL Awards Committee act soon...
> Thanks in advance for any updates.  73, Tom WB4IUX
> 

My $0.02....
I'm not sure if the DXAC has voted yet, but I heard a local packet
rumour (which apparantly has some validity) that according to the
ARRL, there seems to be grounds that there might be just 1 new 
country added. Apparently one of the two (don't know which) has decided
to retain Czechoslovakia's flag as their own, and thus this can be
argued as a 'continuation' of the old country, so no deletes. Seems
pretty foggy to me, but I'm just passing it along....

Len


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 Electrical and Computer Engineering |  normal world. We are chasing DX."
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From: victor@stack.serpukhov.su (Victor Voronkov)
Subject: Russian Robinson Award
Organization: IBPhM, Pushchino
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 07:28:55 GMT


   	            The Russian Robinson Club issued diploma
                            
                           " RUSSIAN ROBINSON AWARD " .

 This diploma is issued for QSO/SWL with amateurs on island
belonged to Russia. The diploma has got 3 classes:

 1 class: 20 different stations on 10 different islands.
 2 class: 16 different stations on  8 different islands.
 3 class: 10 different stations on  6 different islands.

 Each QSO counts double for HAMs or SWLs located on island.
Date of QSO, bands and modes are not limited.
 
Fee of each class is 12 IRC or 6 US dollars, fee of list 
of Russian islands with their numbers ( RRA list ) is 2 IRC
or 1 US dollar or equivalent.
 
 Send GSR list and QSL photocopy by registered letter and fee 
to award manager RW3GW via RRC Headquarters in the USA:
 
SNI, ltd ( RRC ), 429 South 321 St., Place # E10, Federal
Way, WA 98003, USA.
 
		" RRA " Manager RW3GW    V. Sushkov.
From: clemon@lemsys.UUCP (Craig Lemon VE3XCL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: 430mhz band under th
Date: Thu, 07 Jan 1993 17:08:11 EST
 <1993Jan04.035912.16697@ssc.com>
Organization: Private UUCP "Twig" Node
X-Newsreader: Arn V1.00

In article <1993Jan04.035912.16697@ssc.com>, Tad Cook writes:
> >No one expects to use your autopatch for free; so control your access codes.
> >If you find that someone spends a great deal of time on your machine, remind
> >that person that it costs a lot of money to run a repeater, and you can use
> >all the help you can get, but don't expect to be able to force that individual
> >to pay.  This is not a commercial venture.  If you still can't deal with your
> >"great act of charity", then take your repeater down, and let someone else use
> >the allocation.  There are plenty of hams out there who would love to put up an
> >open repeater on your pair!
> >
> 
> If the closed repeater annoys you so much, then go use an open one.
> 

        One of the points of this entire discussion, though, is that fact
that, relatively speaking, THERE AREN'T ANY!  I paraphrase from ealier (not
myself) "If you haven't been _INVITED_ to use any UHF systems, don't bother
buying a radio [as there is nothing/little else].".


--
 Craig Lemon VE3XCL (Advanced) - Kitchener, Ontario. +1 519 741 0297
 clemon@lemsys.UUCP clemon%lemsys@xenitec.on.ca  | 1B Electrical Engineering
 TCP/IP: ve3xcl@ve3xcl.ampr.org [44.135.84.51]   |  University of Waterloo
 AX.25 Packet: ve3xcl@ve3euk.#SWON.ON.CAN.NA     | Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA
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From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
Subject: Re: Who do repeater coordinators represent?
Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 16:24:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.083634.21991@qualcomm.com> karn@servo.qualcomm.com (Phil Karn) writes:
>In article <1iimg8INNsdm@network.ucsd.edu> brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
>>That's all well and good theory, Phil, but who is going to build it?
>
>Theory in ham radio, perhaps. Practice elsewhere. Anybody with the
>time and the tenacity who wants to can build it.

Building it is the easy part, convincing *everyone* else on the frequency
to adopt it is the hard part.

>>BTW, when are you going to put your antennas up?  You've been living
>>there at least half a year and you don't have ANY of them installed yet.
>
>When I get interested in ham radio again.

That's depressing.

Gary

-- 
Gary Coffman KE4ZV          |    You make it,     | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
Destructive Testing Systems |    we break it.     | uunet!rsiatl!ke4zv!gary
534 Shannon Way             |    Guaranteed!      | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary      
Lawrenceville, GA 30244     |                     | emory!ke4zv!gary@gatech.edu
From: RHAREL@FAB8.INTel.COM (RICHARD HAREL)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: "TCI" Commercial/Military Antennas
Date: 6 Jan 93 06:34:05 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

I noticed an ad in the Jane's Book of Military Communications of LPDA
fixed and rotatable antennas for the 2-30 Mhz range.
Some of the fixed position antennas claim to exhibit a gain of
> 18 dbi ! Their construction doesn't seem too complicated
but according to the illustrations at least, they do look like they require
considerable acreage and 3 support towers.
Are these or similar designs available in any literature ?
A ham can not help but daydream about these beautiful
antennas - they take up less room than a rhombic and offer
equal or better gain in a single direction.
-Rich
WB2JBS
From: a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: 1200Mhz is not a microwave band!
Date: 5 Jan 93 01:15:32 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

As I say above: 900 and 1200Mhz are not microwave bands. They are UHF bands.

The VHF/UHF/SHF bands more than ever form a continuum with techniques 
slowly changing across the bands. When I started VHF was somewhat 
strange, UHF was mysterious ("what these inductors have no turns") and 
SHF was just plumbing! This is no longer the case. You can even use 
plug/socket (SMA) connectors at 10Ghz and above.

The following is generally accepted:

Extra Low Frequency	30Hz to 3kHz		10000km to 1000km
Ultra Low frequency	300Hz to 3kHz		1000km to 100km
Very Low frequency	3kHz to 30kHz		100km to 10km
Low Frequency		30kHz to 300kHz		10000m to 1000m
Medium Frequency	300kHz to 3000kHz	1000m to 100m
High Frequency		3Mhz to 30Mhz		100m to 10m
Very High Frequency	30Mhz to 300Mhz		10m to 1m
Ultra High Frequency	300MHz to 3000Mhz	1m to 10cm
Super High Frequency	3GHz to 30Ghz		10cm to 1cm
Extra High Frequency	30GHz to 300GHz		10mm to 1mm
Far Infra-red		300Ghz to 3THz		1mm to 100um
Infra-red		3Thz to 30THz		100um to 10um
Near Infra-red		30Thz to 300THz		10um to 1um
Visible/near UV		300Thz to 3000THz	1000nm to 100nm

Checkout the ARRL operating manual for a quick rundown of allocations.

Why the worry about using equipment at 900 and 1200Mhz? Its very little 
worse than at 440Mhz. All of a sudden you call it "microwaves" (a term 
like "over and out" from the movies) and it becomes a lot more 
dangerous! Take the same precautions as you do with your VHF/UHF radios 
(or even your HF radio): keep the antenna away from your head; don't 
stand close to a transmitting antenna; by a remote mic for portable 
use; don't look into a gain antenna when transmitting.

And what about all those people with their cellular phones exposing 
you, and the police with their 800Mhz radio systems (notice the 3" 
antenas on the cars roof!).

72/73 Kevin, N7WIM / G8UDP
a-kevinp@microsoft.com

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: eri316@tijc02.uucp (Ed Ingraham         )
Subject: CTCSS 
Organization: Siemens Industrial Automation, Johnson City TN
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 18:32:58 GMT

All this discussion of closed vs open repeaters and CTCSS (which seems 
such an attractive solution) brings up the question:

If two stations transmit at the same time on the input of a repeater,
one with the CTCSS which the repeater uses and one without, what comes out
of the repeater transmitter?

If the CTCSS signal is stronger, he comes through. Otherwise, nothing. Right?


Ed Ingraham, WX4S
Siemens Industrial Automation, Inc.
Johnson City, Tennessee
tijc02!eri316@uunet.uu.net
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gcouger@olesun.okstate.edu (Gordon Couger)
Subject: Re: [ANS] Re: [FWD] End fed 1/4 wave 80 meter antenna
Organization: Oklahoma State University, Stillwater
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:49:20 GMT

In article <19530063@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM> perry@hpfcmgw.FC.HP.COM (Perry Scott) writes:
>>>Bio wastes are easily handled by the critters that live in the soil.  It is
>Has anyone ever used a fertilizer, like ammonium nitrate?
>
>"That's not just green patch in the lawn - that's my groundplane!"

Ammonium Nitrate is one of the most serious
problems in the U.S. as a ground water pollutant.
Nitrates have the same action as carbon monoxide on red
blood cells. It permanently binds to the oxygen receptors. I would
not worry about it unless there were shallow water wells around.
Of all the things mentioned in these discussion, IMHO salt is the safest.
You can taste it and you can see its trail by the dead grass. It is non-toxic in
fairly large doses and it is cheep. 

I would put a plastic pipe down 3 or 4 feet to keep it from killing the grass.
And I would not put it under any trees.

Gordon

Gordon Couger
AB5Dg   Agriculture Engineering Oklahoma State University
gcouger@olesun.agen.okstate.edu 405-744-6514 day 744-2794 evenings
From: haynes@cats.ucsc.edu (Jim Haynes)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Cq Rtty experts...
Date: 9 Jan 93 08:09:39 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: hobbes.ucsc.edu


In article <726395684.AA03614@tdkt.kksys.com> Claton.Cadmus@f100.n282.z1.tdkt.kksys.com (Claton Cadmus) writes:
>Joe writes,
>
>JC>   I built a RTTY demod and wrote a simple prog to read the
>JC>serial port so I could copy RTTY on my PC. Unfortunately, most
>JC>RTTY is baudot (5 bit) and not the 8 bit ACII which I can copy.
>JC>   If anyone has a source code ( C or BASIC) or algorithm or
>JC>even a few ideas on how to copy baudot with a PC using a simple demod,
>JC>I'd be very grateful if I could procure same.
>
>Joe, find a copy of the program HAMCOM, that will do it.
Does anybody know of anything simpler?  I looked at HAMCOM, but gee it does
its own modem and a lot of other stuff that I don't want.  All I want is
a very simple ASCII-to-Baudot translation program; and I started to write
one myself but then it occurred to me that maybe somebody else has
already done it.  Just something that will turn a PC into a Baudot glass
Teletype.
-- 
haynes@cats.ucsc.edu
haynes@cats.bitnet

"Ya can talk all ya wanna, but it's dif'rent than it was!"
"No it aint!  But ya gotta know the territory!"
        Meredith Willson: "The Music Man"
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: rick@cs.sunysb.edu (Richard Spanbauer)
Subject: Re: Who do repeater coordinators represent?
Organization: State University of New York, Stony Brook
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:01:57 GMT

In article <1ice33INNopu@network.ucsd.edu> brian@ucsd.edu (Brian Kantor) writes:
>Ham radio is a dying hobby.  I wonder if we deserve our frequencies
>any more.  We sure as hell aren't doing anything new with them.
>Do I sound bitter?
>	- Brian

You certainly would not get an argument from me on this subject.  Given
the exciting developments in PCN/cellular, etc I have to wonder whether
we are just "in the way" of these developing technologies.  As the consumer
RF market becomes more developed and industry chases it with the vigor it
did personal computers, we will fall behind at an increasing rate, IMO.
I, for one, fully expect to have Internet access to my palmtop available
commercially long before we hams ever get our act together and agree
even on protocols, much less fast modem hardware.  We'll have all
the connectivity we ever dreamed of and without the funky acceptable use
rules of HR.  Rick Spanbauer, WB2CFV
From: leadfoot@bigbootay.sw.stratus.com (Mark Curtis)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Closed repeaters
Date: 6 Jan 1993 22:56:40 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: bigbootay.sw.stratus.com

In article <8355@lib.tmc.edu>, jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu (Jay Maynard) writes:
|> In article <1idghsINN1pa@transfer.stratus.com> leadfoot@bigbootay.sw.stratus.com (Mark Curtis) writes:
|> >That pair could be shared with ten other machines just like it using PL/CTCSS
|> >and no one would even notice.  People using simplex freqs do it all the
|> >time, I know I do.  But getting them to go along with this is impossible.
|> >All you get is "Why should I?  The coordinator gave me the pair.  It's
|> >my frequency get lost."
|> 
|> How do you propose to fix this? Be specific.

Require PL/CTCSS on all machines, TX and RX, on 144, 220, and 440.
Add a warning that 10, 6, 900, and 1280 machines may in the future
require the same.  Allow multiple repeaters on these low usage closed
pairs.  If they scream, tough, the coordinator never owned the frequencies
anyway.  Only coordinate high level/high power repeaters if they agree
to allow ANY user to use the basic repeat function of the machine.
They don't have to allow Phone Patch/DVR/Linking/etc., just the basic
TX on the input and RX on the output.

Great examples of these kinds of machines here are 224.180- (KU6V) and
1286.0- (KJ6NN).  Both of these machines have great coverage and are
open to all for the basic repeater function.  After that if you want
access to more functions you have to talk to the trustee.  Both are great
machines with very reasonable owners, too bad there aren't more people
like this.

|> >If you aren't actively using the frequency get out of the way.  If you
|> >don't want someone else's signal repeated turn the thing off.  Not using
|> >the frequency and then screaming when someone, who has equal right to,
|> >does is a joke.  There isn't room for that kind of operation on the
|> >VHF/440 bands anymore.  Stop crying and start sharing, the world is
|> >getting crowded.

|> The folks you're now complaining about were told the exact same thing about 2
|> meters then: There isn't room for you on here. Go to 440 if you want to do
|> that.
|> Now that dual-band rigs are getting popular, you want to change the rules on
|> them. Is that fair?

Who said life was fair?  Grow up! The coordinator at that time didn't
think about the future and growth.  So now he has to admit he was
short sighted and get on with fixing the mistake.  No big deal, happens
all the time.  People who moved out into the suburbs 30 years ago
thought that they would have an easy commute forever too, but look
at it now.  As the world gets more crowded these things happen.
From: kinne@oswego.Oswego.edu
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: HI & UT Skeds Requested...
Date: 7 Jan 93 18:56:45 GMT
Reply-To: kinne@oswego.Oswego.edu ()
Distribution: na
Organization: Instructional Computing Center, SUNY at Oswego, Oswego, NY
Originator: kinne@cloy.oswego.edu

Hello Folks:
	I am trying to get my Worked All States and have been working
on it for quite some time.  The only states I have yet to contact and
confirm are HI and UT.  I am wondering if the Net could be of some
help.  My "hurry" is that there is a chance that I may be moving in
about four weeks and if I cannot contact and confirm these last two
states before I move I will, of course, have to start the whole process
all over again.

	Are they any hams in UT and HI who would like to help me?  I
would really appreciate it.  If so, please contact me via return email.
We can then set up a sked to try a contact.  I originally tried this
with a station from WV and it worked out great.  While I would prefer
the contact be in SSB I am very willing to try CW, RTTY, and ASCII.

	I am an Advanced Class licensee currently living in Central
New York State.  I have 100 watts going into a G5RV antenna layed
out along the roof of my 3rd floor, 275 year old flat (the phone
wireing was laid before Grahm Bell was a boy and the building's electrical
system doesn't know the meaning of the word "ground.").

	I would appreciate any help the Net can give me and look
forward to any and all responses that are sent.  Thanks much!

					Doc Kinne, N2IKR
					kinnerc@snymorva.BITNET
From: klaudon@pica.army.mil
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re:  Info-Hams Digest V93 #26
Date: 6 Jan 93 15:44:45 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: cep4478@ultb.isc.rit.edu (C.E. Piggott )
Subject: Re: Ringo Ranger II performance
Originator: cep4478@ultb
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:12:40 GMT


>>I am considering replacing my 2 meter J-pole with a Cushcraft Ringo Ranger II.

>Maybe when compared to a dummy load. :-(


I have to agree with Gary on this one - the IsoPole's performance has been
much better than my Ringo II when mounted in the same location with the
same radio.  The one thing that Gary left out is that the Ringo II is also
not very well built mechanically - factory clamps have rusted, and the
two little rods that stick out of the middle of the antenna fill up with
ice and bend.  I still have the Ringo II, but only because I've already
got it and it's not worth selling; since then, I've bought the IsoPole's
for K2GXT and we've been much happier.

Chris
-- 
Christopher E. Piggott, WZ2B                    cep4478@ultb.isc.rit.edu
President                                       wz2b.ampr [44.69.0.1]
Rochester Institute of Technology               wz2b @ WB2PSI.#WNY.NY.USA.NA
Amateur Radio Club K2GXT                        CEP4478@RITVAXA.BITNET
From: nigel@sna.co.umist.ac.UK (Nigel Watkinson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: sub
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:24:24 GMT
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