From: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
Newsgroups: talk.politics.mideast,soc.culture.greek
Followup-To: soc.culture.turkish
Subject: Re: Linovambakoi (Re: Turkish Cypriots reject ENOSIS)
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:02:34 EST
Reply-To: sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic)
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In article <C17tv0.HnG@news.cso.uiuc.edu> msg7038@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Michalis  Syrimis) writes:

>>Turkish Cypriots ARE TURKISH Cypriots.

>Exactly.  In your previous article you presented your arguments, which
>were perfectly logical, and with which I agree completely.  It's how one 
>feels that determines his ethnicity / nationality and not his genetic code.
>Read also the posting by Lambros Skartsis about the more general subject, his
>views are not very different than ours.

About the Armenian soldiers? Please say something wise, say I. It is good 
to know the difference between opinions and facts, because people, like 
yourself, often state opinions as though they were facts. Opinions will 
differ from person to person, facts will stay the same. The British first 
subjected the Armenians to intense propaganda and then directed them to 
attack Turkish targets. The pressing reason for this policy was to enable 
them to take Eastern Anatolia and Caucasia without transgressing the 
conditions of the Mondros Armistice. It is on the record that the British 
said to local Armenians, 

'You kill the Muslims and we will supply you with arms and ammunition.'[1]

Armenian volunteers concentrated at the Turkish border in Caucasia,[2]
and then attacked Van,[3] Bitlis,[4] Nakhichevan,[4] Beyazit,[5] and
Kars and Erzurum.[6] The Commander for the 15th Army Corps wrote that 
Armenian units had attacked many Turkish villages with artillery and 
machine guns, that the local people's goods and animals had been usurped, 
that young women had been taken away, the women and children had been 
tortured to death in the mountains, that these attacks on the properties, 
lives and honor of the Muslims were still being perpetrated.[7]

[1] BBA, Meclis-i Vukela Mazbatalari, 212/404, 6 October 1904-1919.
[2] BBA, Dahiliye Nezareti: Sifre Kalemi: 20.vi.1919, 86/53/40.59.
[3] BBA, Dahiliye Nezareti: Kalem-i Mahsus, November 1335 (1919), document
    no. 8339/98.
[4] BBA, Dahiliye Nezareti: Kalem-i Mahsus, 28.viii.1919. cipher no. 7620.
[5] Belgelerle Ermeni Sorunu (Ankara, 1983), p. 370.
[6] Ibid., p. 371.
[7] For information on the Armenian genocide of the Muslims: Islam Ahalinin
    Ducar Olduklari Mezalim Hakkinda Vesaike Mustenid Malumat, 1919.

It is also on the record that Armenians were often given British 
uniforms and that in most cases those Armenians who knew English
were made officers. Kazim Karabekir Pasha complained about these 
practices to Lieutenant-Colonel Rawlinson who came to Anatolia to
demobilize the Turkish army but became its hostage after the Turkish
national struggle for independence began. Although Rawlinson at 
first did not want to believe the Turkish genocide, at the end
he could not help talking about the Armenian genocide of 2.5 million
Muslims in his memoirs. Kazim Karabekir appealed in desperation 
to him to stop the genocide against the Muslim Turkish people.
This appeal by Kazim Karabekir was left unanswered. 

Serdar Argic

                           'We closed the roads and mountain passes that 
                            might serve as ways of escape for the Turks 
                            and then proceeded in the work of extermination.'
                                                       (Ohanus Appressian)
                           'In Soviet Armenia today there no longer exists 
                            a single Turkish soul.'    (Sahak Melkonian)


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