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From: tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: How does the new 2000+MIP Sun server compare against a Cray/XMP?
Date: 18 Nov 1992 01:04:48 -0500
Organization: P.L.T.S., North Plainfield, New Jersey, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: plts.uucp

In <1e0mq4INNil7@armory.centerline.com> matt@centerline.com (Matt Landau) writes:

>In <1e0f40INN65d@milk.Warren.MENTORG.COM> tal@plts.uucp writes:

>>Another difference is that you can buy a Cray today.

>Yeah, I was pretty surprised when I read the fine print of the announcement
>and found that the 20-processor version of the SparcCenter-2000 was slated
>for delivery "2H93".  In other words, Sun preannounced the high-end of the 
>product line something like a year in advance.  

Well, people who buy such huge computers do need about that time to
plan.

*or*

Company A can't compete due to Company B releasing better products.
Company A needs chance to catch up.
Company A announces that in about a year they'll be shipping products
that are better than what Company B is shipping today.
Customers stop buying machines from either company.  They already weren't
buying from Company A, so it doesn't hurt them.  Hurts B.
About a year later, Company A starts shipping wonder-machine.
Pent-up customer demand results in lots of sales.

Gee, I wonder if Sun is feeling the effects of their Viking chip being
HOW MANY years late? [*]

Tom
* -- that's unfair, it hasn't started shipping in volume yet.
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: paulr@fulcrum.oz.au (Paul Rosham)
Subject: Re: SPARCClassic
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 00:03:12 GMT

astewart@megatek.com (Al Stewart) writes:

>Wait a minute! WHAT! I must be misunderstanding something here. What
>happened to binary compatibility? I'm not committed to Solaris 2 (yet).
>One of the reasons I want a SUN is to have the option of 4.1.x or
>try the new Solaris 2.x. Someone please explain/verify. 
>The LX won't run 4.1.x (solaris 1.0)?

Binary compatibility at the user level!!!
What do you want, SunOS 4.1.4? How about the SPARCcenter 200, 4.1.5?

Please get serious.

-PaulR.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: nzhang@umiacs.umd.edu (Ning Zhang)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: QIC-150 and QIC-24 tape drivers
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:58:19 GMT
Organization: UMIACS, University of Maryland, College Park, MD 20742

I have a problem with QIC-150/24 tapes

The tapes I have are Sony QD-6150 150MB tapes. The tapes were written
on a WangTek QIC-150 driver a few months ago. Last week, I copied
some files from another site with a QIC-24 driver on these tapes.
When I tried again to write the tapes on QIC-150 driver, the driver
kept saying that "write: I/O error":

> mt -f /dev/rst0 status
Wangtek QIC-150 tape drive:
   sense key(0x5)= illegal request   residual= 1   retries= 0
   file no= 0   block no= 0

I guess that the tape driver thought the tape is a QIC-24 tape and
cannot be written.

Is there any way I can make the tape to be 150MB tapes again?

Thanks,
-Ning
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: kzin@terminus.gatech.edu (John Rudd)
Subject: SparcBook Laptop Price Drop
Summary: 30 to 45% price drop
Keywords: pricedrop, sparcbook
Organization: Georgia Tech College of Computing
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:49:27 GMT


     Funny thing happened to me this morning.  I've long been looking
over the SparcBook Laptop.  The backlit Greyscale, Color, and Active
Matrix Color systems have all had my attention.  Last night I thought
that before I commit myself to buying a SparcClassic or Sparcstation LX,
I should call them back and see if they're goinng to respond to Sun's
price drop.

     Well, this morning, they called ME.  The people at Tadpole seem to
be very attentive.  I think they're in the place sun was a few years ago.
They know they need to please us (the consumer) in order to get off the
ground.

     They now have an LC model.  It comes as a base unit of 180mb HD,
greyscale  screen, and 8mb memory.  That costs3950.  add floppy for
750 and upto 16mb (max config for this system) is anohter950.  It's not
upgradable after you buy it (lower cost components)

The 16 mb, 180 meg, floppy, greyscale system is now 6450 (BIG cut from 10500).

They're working on a Tsunami system, the guy said..

and best of all, they're going to continue to support and sell Solaris 1
for a LONG time to come. :-)

If you really want a system, give them a call :-)

(oh, and most of their products have a 5% education discount.  NOt a lot,
but not bad).

John

John Rudd  --  kzin@cc.gatech.edu         ex- kzin@ucscb.ucsc.edu
All opinions expressed here are my own, and no one elses.
--If Happy Fun Ball begins to smoke, leave the area immediately,
  seek shelter, and cover your head.  Do NOT Taunt Happy Fun Ball.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: rcg@delphi.dseg.ti.com (bob gibbons)
Subject: Experience with Sun 486DX Accelerator?
Organization: Texas Instruments
Distribution: comp
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:17:41 GMT

We are considering adding one of the SunPC 486DX accelerator boards to a
Sparc IPX running Sun OS 4.1.2. Has anyone got any experience with this
board, good, bad, or indifferent? Our principal interest will be in
running several MS Windows applications.

Thanks,

--
Bob Gibbons				Texas Instruments
Internet: rcg@delphi.dseg.ti.com	Dallas, TX
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: brian@dsm.fordham.edu (Brian Downing)
Subject: HELP! Suns forsale, no idea what they are!
Organization: Fordham University/CLC, Division of Science and Math
Distribution: comp
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 19:18:35 GMT


 I've been put in charge of selling off several old sun 3's. I've got
 dozens of boards with DATA COMMAND DATA and I don't know what they
 are. I've also got a 3/160, 3/260, several 3/60,3/75's and
 3 model# 667? The 667's have the same case with only the DATA COMMAND
 stuff in the back panel.

 Anybody who could help me figure out what any of these are? Tell me
 where to look? Sun references? 

 Thanks!


--

 Brian...

 brian downing@->fordham university, nyc ny
         brian@dsm.fordham.edu       bdowning@mary.fordham.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu (Edward J. Hartnett)
Subject: special scsi cable mac scsi to dd-50 scsi (SUMMARY)
Organization: CIRES, University of Colorado
Date: 19 Nov 92 14:30:35



From my boss:
Here is my write-up on the cable.  Please post to appropriate places, and
include a disclaimer saying that we're not resonsible if it's wrong and 
they hose their equipment.


==============================================================================
I had a surplus Sun SCSI disk drive which I wanted to use with my PC.  I 
bought an Always Technology IN-2000 SCSI Adapter Card.  The external connector 
on this card is a DB-25 and the only SCSI cable I could find that had this on 
one end was the standard Mac system cable, which had a 50-pin "Centronics" on 
the other end.  This didn't help since the disk drive I wanted to use had the 
Sun SCSI-1 connector, the D-connector with three rows of pins, which I was 
told is called DD-50.

We put out an appeal on the net, which yielded several suggestions.  One was 
to simply make a centronics-50 to DD-50 jumper using insulation displacement 
connectors.  This is what I had originally intended to do but the cost of the 
DD-50 IDC was over $20, so I thought I'd order a cable with the desired 
connection.  We ran into problems because the pin numbering scheme on the IDC 
and solder-type connectors are different from the Sun SCSI-1 convection.


The IDC connectors are numbered like so:

 -----------------------------------
 \     01o  02o  03o ..... 17o     /
  \                               /
   \     18o  19o  ..... 33o     /
    \                           /
     \ 34o  35o  36o ..... 50o /
      -------------------------


Sun SCSI-1 connectors are numbered like this:

 -----------------------------------
 \     01o  04o  07o ..... 49o     /
  \                               /
   \     03o  06o  ..... 48o     /
    \                           /
     \ 02o  05o  08o ..... 50o /
      -------------------------


The proper pin-outs for these connectors are as follows:

         MAC/IBM  SCSI-1   IDC
Signal    DB-25   DD-50   50-Pin
------   -------  ------  ------
-DB(0)      8      2       34 
-DB(1)      21     4        2 
-DB(2)      22     6       19 
-DB(3)      10     8       36 
-DB(4)      23     10       4 
-DB(5)      11     12      21 
-DB(6)      12     14      38 
-DB(7)      13     16       6 
-DB(P)      20     18      23 
-TERM PWR   25     26      42 
-ATN        17     32      44 
-BSY        6      36      29 
-ACK        5      38      46 
-RST        4      40      14 
-MSG        2      42      31 
-SEL        19     44      48 
-C/D        15     46      16 
-REQ        1      48      33 
-I/O        3      50      50 

all other pins not listed above are ground (GND).

This should allow you to use Sun SCSI-1 devices with a Mac or with a PC having 
the Allways IN-2000 SCSI Adapter card in it.  

However, after all this, we discovered that the controller card in the
drive was not standard scsi anyway, so we took the drive out and
connected it via esdi. Oh well.
--
Edward Hartnett			ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu

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From: guy@Auspex.COM (Guy Harris)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.sys.sun.misc
Subject: Re: Linefeed (LFD) for type 5 keyboard? -- more
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:18:01 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Organization: Auspex Systems, Santa Clara

>LFD is just Ctrl-J. So what I want to do is map Ctrl-J to Alt Graph or
>Compose.  xmodmap will do the trick but I can't get it to work.

Actually, Linefeed is just Linefeed.  There's no "Control J" keysym in
<X11/keysymdef>, or at least not in any version I've seen, but there is
a "Linefeed" key, so try using "Linefeed" as the keysym.

>What is the KEYSYMNAME for "Alt Graph"

"Mode_switch".

> or "Compose"?

"Multi_key".
From: dj@micromuse.co.uk (DJ Walker-Morgan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: SPARCclassic vs. 486 (Was Re: SPARCClas
Date: 16 Nov 92 11:42:06 GMT
Reply-To: dj@micromuse.co.uk
Organization: MicroMuse - The SPARC dudes

In article 721635961@cc.gatech.edu, kzin@terminus.gatech.edu (John Rudd) writes:
>books@fsunuc.physics.fsu.edu (Roger Books) writes:
>
>what does a good laser printer cost?  for the sparc you get a sparcpritner
>for $2500.  For the Gateway you get a TI Microlaser for $1200ish.
>The Sparc now costs you in the area of $8500.  The Gateway in the area of
>$6000. 

Er... and what stops you putting a TI microlaser on the back of a Classic?
Theres a parallel port on the back. SPARCprinter is *not* the only option.

Your analysis is flawed too.... B)

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From: rhoward@matd.gatech.edu (Robert L. Howard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: Sun Monitor options
Date: 18 Nov 92 17:17:55 GMT
Organization: Georgia Tech Research Institute

ma90fau@imath1.ucsd.edu (ma90fau) writes:

>I am somehow confused by Suns midrange color option.  If you own a
>Sparcstation LX, what difference does it make between the midrange
>and regular?  The midrange monitor can display 1152x900 right?

I got this from my sales rep....

Monitors supported on the LX and Classic are:

15" color	1024 X 768	76Hz
16" Midrange	1024 X 768	76HZ
		1152 X 900	66Hz
16" Color	1152 X 900	76 or 66Hz
		1280 X 1024	67Hz
19" Color	1152 X 900	76 or 66
		1280 X 1024	67
19" Grayscale	1152 X 900 	76

Hope this helps.

Robert
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From: FelineGrace@cup.portal.com (Dana B Bourgeois)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: 2 Gb drives on suns
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 01:00:58 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Nov20.171429.5881@kakwa.ucs.ualberta.ca>

I am running Maxtor 2.0 gig drives on a SPARC II.  Works fine.  Artecon
was the system integrator.  I haven't checked if they used the SUN
SCSI driver or wrote their own.  I can tell you it took them nearly 6
months from the time they recieved the drives to when they could set
up the system.  But it has been working flawlessly since.
From: 2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu (Ryan K. Brooks)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: SBus/MBus Spec
Date: 19 Nov 1992 17:40:18 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 2575brooksr@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

Can anyone direct me to/email a copy of SBus and MBus specifications
(pinouts/protocols/timing,etc.)  Thanks,    

 ----------------------------
 Ryan K. Brooks                        "You're never dead till you're        
 2575BrooksR@vms.csd.mu.edu                  out of quarters."     
 Marquette University EECE              
 NemeSys Corporation
 "Curtains for Windows" 
Xref: sparky comp.sys.sun.hardware:5802 comp.periphs.scsi:5578
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware,comp.periphs.scsi
Subject: Re: SUMMARY: 1 GB 3.5" SCSI disks
From: <H18CC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 20 Nov 1992 15:07:51 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

I dont think I have seen any comments on the Quantum 1.225Gig unit!?!?! Anyone
used it??? Compatibility?? Price?? Performance???

Michel Cole
h18cc@cunyvm.cuny.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: beaulieu@bose.com (Larry Beaulieu)
Subject: Sbus Expansion Subsystems board
Organization: Bose Corporation
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:57:29 GMT


	I'd like info on the SES/B or SES/C expansion subsystem
	boars, such as price, discount level (A vs. B), bus master
	support, etc. 

	I'm interested in is the new one that supposedly plugs into 
	the VME (for power only) on a MP670.  I'm not interested in 
	info on the one in the pizza box enclosure other than personal
	experience with the product.

--
Larry Beaulieu			beaulieu@bose.com
Bose Corporation		Phone: 508-879-1916 x6479
Framingham, MA 01701-9168	FAX:   508-820-4865	

		All flames gleefully ignored.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu (Edward J. Hartnett)
Subject: anyone know about this disk? a EMULEX MD21/S2 ESDI A00
Organization: CIRES, University of Colorado
Date: 19 Nov 92 09:51:46

My boss is trying to hook this disk up to his PC SCSI port (it used to
be on a Sun). He's having some harsh problems (disk operations
intermittently reboot the PC). Here's a question he asked me, and I
don't have the slightest idea how to find the answer (except to post
and hope:)

  could you find out whether the disk I have is formatted for 1024 bytes/sector
  or 512 b/s?  Allways says I have to send it back to factory to get ir
  it reformatted.

Can anyone help me?
--
Edward Hartnett			ejh@khonshu.colorado.edu
From: master@cats.ucsc.edu (The Master)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: 256k simms in a sun 3/60?
Date: 24 Nov 92 03:52:05 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: si.ucsc.edu


  Is it possible to use 256kx9 simms in a Sun 3/60?

 If so, is there any special bank arrangement required?  Jumper
settings (other than setting it for the amount of memory you have?)

 I have 4 megs of 256kx9 simms I want to add to my second 3/60, and
take 4 megs out of that one and put it in my first system (presently,
the system I want to put the memory in has 12 megs.)  If it is
possible to use the 256k siims, the second system will have all its simm slots
full (8 1meg simms, and 16 256k simms)

 I seem to remember seeing a post about this a while ago, but I did
not keep a copy of it.

 Mark Wedel
master@cats.ucsc.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: sion@apache.ctr.columbia.edu (Boudi Sahyoun)
Subject: Help: Can't mount /dev/fd0
Organization: Columbia University Center for Telecommunications Research
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:11:58 GMT
X-Posted-From: apache.ctr.columbia.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: sol.ctr.columbia.edu


Hi,

I have a Sparcstation II with a floppy drive. I often use the floppy
to transfer files between the Sun and non-networked PC's. But someday,
I started getting error messages when I tried to mount the floppy.

The error is:

mount_pcfs: /dev/fd0 on /pcfs type pcfs: I/O error
mount: giving up on:
   /pcfs



I ran sundiag sucessfully on the drive, so it doesn't seem to be a 
hardware problem. Does anybody have any clue on what is causing this
and on the way to fix it?

thanks in advance,

Boudi
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From: marc@porsche944.Eng.Sun.COM (Marc)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
Subject: Re: SPARCClassic
Date: 20 Nov 1992 22:19:44 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: marc@porsche944.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: porsche944

In article 18648@fwi.uva.nl, casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik) writes:
>>BTW, I haven't seen the SPARCstation LX yet, does it come
>>with the IPC-like "shoe box" or SS2-like "pizza box"?
>
>The LX has a IPC-style "shoe box".
>
>Casper


 Pardon me Casper. The correct term inside sun is "DinnerBox". A shoebox is larger
and was sold with Sun3 equipment.

-Marc

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: harthc@ntmtv.UUCP (Howard Hart)
Subject: Re: Sparc 10's are 10BASE-T
Organization: Northern Telecom Inc, Mountain View, CA
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 01:51:39 GMT

In article <1992Nov20.101844@siisun.epfl.ch>, brossard@siisun.epfl.ch (Alain Brossard EPFL-SIC/SII) writes:
|> In article <1992Nov19.211710.18256@ntmtv>, harthc@ntmtv.UUCP (Howard Hart) writes:
|> |> Congratulations are only in order when the vendor forewarns you. Sun
|> |> didn't and as far as I know still doesn't tell any customers about
|> |> the 10Base-T only connection (unless you specifically ask them). 
|> 
|>    Let's not generalize, it might be that YOUR vendor is incompetent
|> or careless, it doesn't mean that Sun in general failed to warn
|> its customers.  Or it could be that since it is clearly written in the glossy
|> they thought you were old enough to check or whatever.
|> 

Sorry, I stand corrected. Customers in Europe shouldn't worry. Customers
in California and some other parts of the US should (I talked with 
other sites around the Bay Area--no one I know of was informed,
which covers multiple sales regions and sales Reps).

|>     Quoting from the Sparc 10 Specifications sheet (glossy brochure):

We've got a SPARC 10 in house and 60 SPARCClassics on the way. I have
yet to see a sales brochure or specification sheet (other than
what came in the SPARC 10 box). Sounds like we should buy our
SPARCs in Europe :-).

-- 
Howard Hart		UUCP:{ames,pyramid!amdahl,hplabs}!ntmtv!harthc
System Administrator	INTERNET: ntmtv!harthc@ames.arc.nasa.gov
Northern Telecom	PHONE: (415) 940-2680
Mt. View, CA
Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: gudmund@itek.norut.no (Gudmundur Joekulsson)
Subject: how to rezero SCSI-bus unit (sun-os 4.1.1)
Organization: FORUT Information Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 11:33:48 GMT
Reply-To: gudmund@itek.norut.no (Gudmundur Joekulsson)

--
Hi,
A little explanation of the scenario first ...
I am using a converter box attached to the scsi interface,
converting to a serial V.11 interface to a network.
Every now and then (when restarting a daemon operating with the 
converter box after a previous daemon was killed in while in an
active state) I get a read error on the device, and the system
writes out error messages, telling it is retrying the command. Finaly it
performes a 'rezero' and then the device is OK again.  But the
daemon causing the reset hangs, and must be taken away, and a new
one started.  This also takes time (too loooooong !).

I would like to be able to do something to force this
'rezero'-thing before starting the new daemon, avoiding
the daemon hanging.  I have the feeling that it is the device
driver that performs this retry/rezero ?  How do I comand it
to rezero a certain unit on the bus ?

The system is SUN-OS 4.1.1, using the standard device driver 'esp'
for the 'sd' devices.


I have tried the ioctl requests listed in /usr/include/sun/dkio.h (or
at least most of them) but they just get theyr info from the systems
conf. and do not do anything with the physical device it self.
I can of course write something to the device and thus make it fail
and then reset by the system/driver, but the best thing would be
to just reset it directly.  Hilfe Hilfe ...

OR if there is no such shell command or system call ...

Is there a way do 'probe' a specific target on the SCSI-bus, i.e. 
something analogous to the boot ROM-mode: ROM> probe_SCSI, only from
a UNIX shell and to just one of the targets/units on the bus ?


How do I do this, any ideas are welcome

gudmundur
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.sun.hardware
From: devs@netcom.com
Subject: Software development contracts for Devsoft
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 02:07:12 GMT



Devsoft Corporation is looking for software contracts in the following
areas:

1. Device drivers for Solaris 2.X and HP-UX platforms.
2. X-Windows/MOTIF/Open Windows GUI for applications.
3. Software projects in document imaging area.


Devsoft is presently porting device device drivers from SunOS4.X to
Solaris 2.1 for a major Sun VAR. Devsoft has more bandwidth to take up
other software development contracts in the areas listed above.

Devsoft Corporation is a value-added reseller of Sun Microsystems and
Hewlett-Packard. Devsoft has its own image scanning product called
XpertScan. Devsoft has also developed device drivers for optical disk
drivers and tape drives.

Here are the particulars about Devsoft:

        Devsoft Corporation
        1010 West Fremont Avenue
        Sunnyvale, CA 94087

        Phone: (408) 736-7650
        Fax  : (408) 736-7696
        Email: devs@netcom.com