HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: hooker@aristotle.ils.mwu.edu ( BOB HOOKER)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush and the liberal conspiracy
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:03:40 GMT
Organization: ILS

In article <1992Sep25.122557.3225@afit.af.mil>, jswitzer@afit.af.mil (Chip
Switzer) writes:
> 
> hooker@aristotle.ils.mwu.edu ( BOB HOOKER) writes:
> 
> >All Rush fans were I work,  hes on once a month,  are what you might call
> >liberal.  All are for Roe vs. Wade, Clinton,  Civil Rights,  Limited
>                                                               ^^^^^^^
> >Government,  Higher Education spending, etc.
>  ^^^^^^^^^^
> 
> Good one!  Are Conservatives for increased taxes and Afirmative Action
> in your world?
> 

Considering that Reagan and Bsuh both signed the two greatest tax increases
in American history and have allowed the national debt to grow so great
that future high taxes a probably necessary.

Combined with the fact that the Republicna Convention was stage managed to
make it apear that there were more women and minorities there then they in
fact were,  make such a statement seem not to unreasonable.




> -- 
> 
> Chip Switzer                            "A witty saying proves nothing." 
> jswitzer@afit.af.mil                              -- Voltaire 
> 
> 
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Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: Thank you for answering my question! Maybe
From: kmitche@eis.calstate.edu (Kenneth Mitchell)
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 00:12:53 GMT
Organization: Calif State Univ/Electronic Information Services

eisimps@cie.uoregon.edu (Eileen Simpson) writes:
> 
> One last thing:  all you folks who try to insulate Bush by insisting that
> Congress passed the budget act and tax increase should also acknowledge
> that Clinton--as Governor--hardly has any more responsibility than Bush
> does for the acts of his legislature.  You want to have it both ways:  Bush
> is just the executive branch and does not have responsibility for taxes or
> the budget, but Clinton the executive has all the responsibility for his
> state's taxes and budget!  It will not fly, folks.
> 
> Check out who signalled that a tax increase was called for:  it was Bush,
> not the Congress, and it wasn't because of the war situation.  

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG.  It was Jim Wright, the DEMOCRAT Speaker of the
House, who was demanding a tax hike, and he was willing to hold the
Federal budget hostage to do it. EVERY POLITICIAN AND MEDIA TYPE was
calling for tax hikes, and the President was damned as "stubborn and
arrogant" for opposing them. Finally, those stealth-liberal idiots on
Bush's staff, Darman and Brady, persuaded Bush to accept a tax hike in
return for guaranteed cuts in Federal spending. 

Needless to say, the spending cuts DIDN'T happen, but the tax hike DID. So
who's the biggest liar? Bush for promising not to raise taxes and then
doing so, or Congress, for promising to cut spending and then raising it?  

Ken Mitchell
kmitche@eis.calstate.edu
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From: mykes@amiga0.SF-Bay.ORG (Mike Schwartz)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Taxing the Rich (was Re: Clinton Appeals to Hate)
Distribution: usa
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (9/19/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:25:10 PST
Organization: Amiga makes it possible

In article <BvDGCA.FMt@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> leescogg@expert.cc.purdue.edu (Lee) writes:
> I can't help but wonder why no one has brought up the idea of a flat tax rate
> again during this election.  If we really want an equitable solution to the
> problem of the rich not paying their fair share, then this would be the
> answer.
>
> I would complain much less if everyone were charge a flat 5-10% of their gross
> income with no deductions and no adjustments to that income.	It would also
> seem reasonable that this would increase the amount of income to the U.S.  I
> don't, unfortunately, have any figures on how much this would increase the
> income and would be interested in some economics wizards putting the pencil
> to this.
>
> Just my humble "two cents" worth.

10% of a $5 Trillion GDP would yield $500 Billion in government revenues.
But the government does receive revenues from other sources - tariffs,
direct taxes (gas tax, etc.)...

Current goverenment revenues from income tax (including business) is
now about $700 Billion.  And government revenues with our current system
represent 26% of GDP.  For comparitive purposes, Japan's government revenues
represent 22% of their GDP, while Germany's is 50%+.

Gerry Brown's flat tax proposal was a flat 15% tax AND a 15% consumption
tax (sales tax)...

--
Amiga programmer of: GRn, MailMinder, Budokan, Beyond Dark Castle, Dark Castle
Sega Genesis programmer of: Dick Tracy and Marble Madness.
Mike Schwartz  (ames!zorch!amiga0!mykes or mykes@amiga0.sf-bay.org)
1124 Fremont Ave.
Los Altos, CA 94024

Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,talk.abortion
From: dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King)
Subject: Re: "Snapple" Anti-Choice?
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation Facility NASA
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 17:48:59 GMT
Reply-To: dking@raul.nas.nasa.gov (Dan King)


In article <Bv9E0B.E4p.2@cs.cmu.edu> garvin+@cs.cmu.edu (Susan Garvin) writes:

>First, several people decide that a rumor is as good as fact,
>and broadcast their gullibility as if it were a virtue.
>Now, one of them is braying about his joy at being "famous
>on the net" for this behavior.  

>Does Limbaugh teach his cult members to be proud of being
>idiots?

Susan, if you have to ask that question, it seems clear you
have never seen Rush's TV show or listened to his radio show.
Pride in being an idiot seems to be the primary objective 
in Rush's shows.

>Susan

Dan King
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: hulsey@dbsun.uucp (hulsey)
Subject: Re: Rush vs. Murphy Brown
Organization: BioMerieux-Vitek, St. Louis Mo.
            <1992Oct5.121929.23613@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com.mrg.uswest.com>
Date: Tue, 6 Oct 1992 21:25:02 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.121929.23613@uswmrg.mrg.uswest.com.mrg.uswest.com>
   greg_bradt@msmgate.mrg.uswest.com (Greg Bradt) writes:
>In article <1992Oct2.185420.3280@anasazi.com> Mike Best,
>best@anasazi.com writes:
>>Have you ever noticed that Rush is always introduced as "conservative"
>>talk show host R.L. but that "liberal" is never used when introducing
>>Mario Cuomo or Jesse Jackson?  This is but one small observation 
>>of a truism, the media has a liberal bias.
>
>Most people are difficult to sum up in two words or less, as it is
>popular to do (whenever possible) in the electonic media.  Rush,
>however, holds the distinction of being very easy to sum up in one
>word, since he _is_ truly onedimensional.

Which dimension, width or girth?

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An Ohioan living in Misery (Missouri, same difference)

Watch what you say!                Won't you sign up your name
They'll be calling you a radical   So you can be their dependable
A liberal, fanatical criminal      Respectable, presentable vegetable
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From: mikeq@aspen.CNA.TEK.COM (Mike Quigley)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: HERE'S BUSH'S/SLICK'S TAX LIST(S)
Date: 29 Sep 92 22:11:18 GMT
Followup-To: alt.rush-limbaugh
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Redmond,  OR.

In article <1992Sep29.173930.1502@umbc3.umbc.edu? alex@engr3.umbc.edu (alex) writes:
?
?	Finally, somebody printed Bush's tax list to go along with Clintons.
?It shows that Bush raised taxes 178 times in 3-1/2 years, as opposed to
?Clinton's 127 times in 12 years (thats 127 increases to 610 for bush,
?if you pro-rate the numbers).

Make that 189 for Bush. His 1993 budget contains 11 new tax increases 
despite his I'll-never-raise-your-taxes-again-Ever-EVER! penitence.

Mike
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From: regard@hpsdde.sdd.hp.com (Adrienne Regard)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.activism.d,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Walking down to the student center last night
Date: 5 Oct 1992 08:19:08 -0700
Organization: Hewlett Packard, San Diego Division
NNTP-Posting-Host: hpsdde.sdd.hp.com

In article <1992Oct3.032947.1410@ringer.cs.utsa.edu> sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth) writes:
>
>I have been trying to contact the technical folks at UTSA about
>why I can't quote text from a message I am replying to.
>Technical problems aren't stupidity.


Hmm.  Technical problems that prohibit you from taking a pen, writing down
the article reference, author and what they said so that folks on the net
have a clue what you are talking about?

Simon, take it this way.  People are merely pointing out to you that your
posts are virtually empty, and simply 'noise' if you don't provide context.
There are workarounds to your 'technical problems'.  You should be thanking
those who point out the noise level to you.  Unless, of course, you only
intend to post noise.

Adrienne Regard


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From: matt@physics.berkeley.edu (Matt Austern)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,alt.politics.elections,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh,talk.politics.misc
Subject: Re: HERE'S BUSH'S/SLICK'S TAX LIST(S)
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:07:44
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory (Theoretical Physics Group)
	<1992Sep29.173930.1502@umbc3.umbc.edu>
	<1992Sep29.175444.20913@cbnews.cb.att.com>
	<1992Sep29.205001.11196@Princeton.EDU> <9381@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM>
Reply-To: matt@physics.berkeley.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM's message of 30 Sep 92 14:04:34 GMT

In article <9381@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM> mwilson@ncratl.AtlantaGA.NCR.COM (Mark Wilson) writes:

> BTW, the list of taxes is silly because it gives equal weight to a tax
> that will bring in only a few thousand and one that might bring in millions.

Exactly.  Bush's "128 tax increases" list was idiotic to begin with:
not only because it was intellectually dishonest, but also because it
is stupid to judge a candidate by whether or not he signed a bill
which mandated a $1 increase in court costs for convicted felons.  

(Michael Kinsley, in his TRB column exposing the dishonesty of Bush's
list, made exactly this point.)

Still, it is worth pointing out that even by this idiotic method of
judging candidates, Bush comes out as the worse of the two.  Bush made
this kind of list a campaign issue, not me, and if he thinks that it
really matters, he has to defend his record on this basis.


--
Matthew Austern                   Just keep yelling until you attract a
(510) 644-2618                    crowd, then a constituency, a movement, a
austern@lbl.bitnet                faction, an army!  If you don't have any
matt@physics.berkeley.edu         solutions, become a part of the problem!
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From: William.A.Hall.Jr.@dartmouth.edu (William A. Hall Jr.)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.activism.d,alt.politics.elections,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton,talk.politics.misc,talk.abortion
Subject: Re: Walking down to the student center last night
Date: 4 Oct 92 14:49:09 GMT
 <1992Oct2.185046.24334@unet.net.com> 
 <1992Oct3.030602.952@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>  
 <1992Oct3.203349.5669@netcom.com>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Oct3.203349.5669@netcom.com>
bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig) writes:

> That's 'pro-abortion'.  I've never heard anybody advocating it.

Yeah? Look back to the beginning of this thread.

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-----
William Hall, Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH.

"Abortion is advocated only by persons that have themselves been born."
-- Ronald Reagan
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From: Frederick.A.Ringwald@dartmouth.edu (Frederick A. Ringwald)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.politics.bush,alt.politics.clinton
Subject: Re: Tom Selleck on Arsenio
Date: 6 Oct 92 05:48:09 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1992Oct5.195918.1@acad.drake.edu>
vsg001@acad.drake.edu writes:

> "Conservatives define compassion not by the number of people who receive 
> some kind of government aid but rather by the number of people who no 
> longer need it."

A noble sentiment, but the way to achieve this is NOT by clubbing them
to death!
From: jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Rush vs. Murphy Brown
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:38:06 GMT
Reply-To: jxxl@cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke)
Organization: Naval Postgraduate School, Monterey CA

chaneysa@nextnet.csus.edu (Stephen A Chaney) writes:

> I say we discredit the media and make journalism a highly shameful
> profession. They are blatant liars, cover-up maniacs, and they just
> don't do their job. 
> 
> In my opinion: Long Live Rush! 

Uh, Steve, apparently you overlooked the fact that your corpulent hero,
Rush, is part of the media.

As for "liberal media," it's a phrase used seriously only by Rush's
whining army of girly-men. Analogously, if you were losing a game of
chess, you would be whining that your opponent had too many pieces on
the board.

John
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh,alt.fan.rush-limbaugh
From: aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com (Allan Schaffer)
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
Subject: Re: Principles, principles, principles
Date: 29 Sep 1992 16:52:07 GMT
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
NNTP-Posting-Host: holodeck.csd.sgi.com

eyc@acpub.duke.edu (EMIL CHUCK) said..
>
>We fail to remember that if Bill Clinton stood up for his principles as
>adamantly as the proponents of Gov. Clinton claim he does, then why did
>he say that he would vote in favor of military conflict in the Persian
>Gulf but that he agreed in principle with the minority (Democrats).
>Do you remember "I guess I would have voted with the majority if
>it was a close vote.  But I agree with the arguments the minority
>made." He later changed "agree" to "understood" when asked about this
>again.

Simply put, there were a number of advantages AND disadvantages to going
to war.  In essense Clinton said that when you get down to "brass tacks",
and ask him for the bottom line, he'd vote in favor of it.  However, he
felt that there were also good arguments against immediately going to war.

I'd MUCH rather have someone in office who -does- realize and weigh in
his mind both sides of an issue.  Even General Schwarzkopf (sp?) said 
that he felt that Bush was pushing too fast to start the war -- and 
that Bush hadn't given the "alternatives" (like the blockade) a chance 
to work.

Clinton is showing a responsibility here that most people have not seen
in politics for a long time.  This issue was not just black & white, but
had a number of factors that ALL had to be considered, and that could
"shade" his decision.  Bill Clinton's statement showed that he was
willing to listen to both sides, weigh the problem in his mind, and
THEN make a decision about it.  I didn't get that impression at all
from George Bush, and Schwarzkopf's statements confirm it.

Allan
-- 
Allan Schaffer                        It's Tuesday September 22, 1992 -- 
aschaffe@holodeck.csd.sgi.com         time for the Presidential Debate.
aschaffe@netcom.com                   Do you know where your President is?
For a free copy of Bill Clinton's economic recovery plan, call 1-800-272-9763.
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: Ted.Schafer@bbs.rn.com (Ted Schafer)
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 16:47:55 EST
Organization: The Gator Conferencing System 219-289-3745 
Subject: rush_e_mail_address
Distribution: world
Reply-To: Ted.Schafer@bbs.rn.com (Ted Schafer)
X-Posting-Software: UniBoard 1.10 S/N 145921

hi everyone
   could someone please give me rush's e-mail address.
thanks
ted schafer
Newsgroups: alt.rush-limbaugh
From: jrs@netcom.com (John Switzer)
Subject: Re: A Note on Book Sales
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 21:17:21 GMT

In article <6472@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil> jxxl@huxley.cs.nps.navy.mil (John Locke) writes:
>csmith@boa.cis.ohio-state.edu (craig edward smith) writes:
>
>> In regard to finding people who have read Rush Limbaugh's book but not
>> Clinton's or Gores, I have not been able to find a single bookstore that
>> has Rush's book!
>
>Now that we're bored with the liberal media conspiracy, let's move on to
>the liberal bookseller conspiracy. After that, there's always the liberal
>college professor conspiracy. And the liberal novelists, poets, artists,
>and filmmakers. Did you know that liberals have virtually taken over the
>used book business as well? Right under our eyes! And what about the
>libraries? Damn liberal cells. Why is it that so many literate people
>have succumbed to the liberal menace?
>
How about liberal paranoia? Perhaps the above poster was commenting on the 
fact that it's still hard to find Rush's book because it is continually sold 
out. Why is it that so many literate people seem incapable of doing 
anything but assume the worst about someone and what they say?
-- 
John Switzer               | 50 years from now, nobody will
                           | remember Candice Bergen or Murphy
74076.1250@Compuserve.com  | Brown, but every school kid will
jrs@netcom.com             | be taught about President Quayle.
Newsgroups: comp.window.open-look,alt.toolkits.xview
From: gam@beta.lanl.gov (Gim Mark)
Subject: Need list of ports of XView
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 1992 17:51:12 GMT

I need to know the platforms to which XView has been ported.  I'm
particularly interested in knowing about NeXT, HPs, SGIs, RS 6000,
Macintosh, and DECstations.  I'd appreciate receiving any information
you might have.

Thanks.

Graham Mark
Los Alamos National Laboratory
(505)667-8147

Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.open-look
From: lee@sq.sq.com (Liam R. E. Quin)
Subject: Re: How to get a selected string from a panel_list ?
Organization: SoftQuad Inc., Toronto, Canada
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 92 00:20:34 GMT

unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (M.J.Jubb) writes:
> Is anybody out there using edition 3 [...] of the books?
> Have you got libraries that support all the features, including 
> PANEL_LIST_INSERT_STRINGS and things, without falling over?
> If so, please tell us all where to get it. 

PANEL_LIST_INSERT_STRINGS works fine for me with the XView libraries
that were standard on the OpenWindows 3.0 CD/ROM.

Remember to null-terminate the list - i.e. you do something like
	a[0] = "'ello";
	a[1] = "mornin', guv";
	a[2] = "watcha, mate!";
	a[3] = NULL;
	xv_set(panel_list_item,
	    PANEL_LIST_INSERT_STRINGS, 1, a,
	    NULL
	);

Lee

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From: rickg@eng.sun.com (unknown)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview,comp.windows.open-look
Subject: Re: How to get a selected string from a panel_list ?
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:47:26 GMT
	<1992Sep29.174424.25411@news.uni-stuttgart.de>
Reply-To: rickg@eng.sun.com
Organization: SunSoft, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: irondude



we've seen a lot of answers to this, and still nobody's
come up with the PANEL_LIST_FIRST_SELECTED and PANEL_
LIST_NEXT_SELECTED attributes....



<<tank

--

*********************************************************************

	Richard M. "Tank" Goldstein		rickg@Eng.Sun.COM
	Window Developer Environment,
	SunSoft, Inc.

	"I don't practice what I preach because I'm not the kind
	of person I'm preaching to"

				-"Bob" in Newsweek

*********************************************************************
From: unregistered@newcastle.ac.uk (M.J.Jubb)
Newsgroups: alt.toolkits.xview
Subject: Xview3.1 PANEL_LIST bug
Date: 2 Oct 92 10:29:08 GMT
Reply-To: M.J.Jubb@durham.ac.uk
Organization: School of Engineering, University of Durham, UK

I think there may be a serious bug in the 3.1 PANEL_LIST object. 

My particular problem concerns deleting and adding list entries to a panel
list. The program below is supposed to produce a list and a button. When
you press the button, the top entry "apples" is supposed to be deleted and
replaced with "ghoulash". However, upon pressing the button the whole thing
falls over with a segmentation fault. I can, however, achieve the same thing
using two separate attributes, PANEL_LIST_INSERT to get the new row and
PANEL_LIST_STRING to set its text, and this works OK. 

The offending code fragment is below. If you are interested in PANEL_LISTs 
could you please try it, then we will know for definite whether it really
is a bug, or whether I have a problem with my particular xview distribution. 

If you can get it to work, please could you let me know where you got your
distribution from so I can FTP it!

#include<xview/xview.h>
#include<xview/frame.h>
#include<xview/panel.h>
#include<stdio.h>
#include<stdlib.h>

Frame mainframe,subframe;
Panel_item framepanel,scrollinglist,gobutton;
void addstring();

main()
{
mainframe = xv_create(NULL,FRAME,XV_SHOW,TRUE,NULL);
subframe = xv_create(mainframe,FRAME_CMD,
		     FRAME_CMD_DEFAULT_PIN_STATE,FRAME_CMD_PIN_IN,
		     XV_SHOW,TRUE,NULL);
framepanel = xv_get(subframe,FRAME_CMD_PANEL);
scrollinglist = xv_create(framepanel,PANEL_LIST,
			  PANEL_LIST_STRINGS,"Apples","Bananas","Cherries","Dates",
			  NULL,
			  NULL);
gobutton = xv_create(framepanel,PANEL_BUTTON,
		     PANEL_LABEL_STRING,"Add",
		     PANEL_NOTIFY_PROC,addstring,
		     NULL);
xv_main_loop(mainframe);
}

void addstring()
{
xv_set(scrollinglist,PANEL_LIST_DELETE,0,NULL);
xv_set(scrollinglist,PANEL_LIST_INSERT_STRINGS,0,"Ghoulash",NULL,NULL);
}

----------------------------
Matthew J. Jubb, Ph.D Image-processing research
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