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From: darren@rice.edu (Darren Bolding)
Subject: Re: Holy Smoke (new Peter Murphy)
Organization: Rice University, Houston, Texas
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:02:38 GMT

>From: tardis@milton.u.washington.edu (Willie Wonka) 
>  As a devoted fan of Peter Murphy, I rushed and bought his  
>  new CD "Holy Smoke".  It has nine new songs and is 45 minutes long. 
>  Here's my quick impression.
>  Overall, it was good, but not great.  (To me) it is more slightly 
> mellow (but not slow) than previous CDs.  I would rate it #3 or #4, 
>  ranking his albums (with Love Hysteria first, then Deep).   One element 
>  I missed in this CD compared to previous is that there was less variety
>  between each song, most sounded similar.Also, there were no slow songs like 
>  Strange Kind of Love or Marlene Dietrich (sp).  I recommend listening 
>  to this CD before purchasing it.  

>  I would rate it 2.5 stars on a scale of four. 

Yeah, I got it yesterday as well.. I concur that at first impression it is 
"Good" but not incredible.  But, thats what I thought of Love Hysteria as well;
and it grew on me.  I also noticed that a lot of the songs sound a lot alike-
The Sweetest Drop is the one that deviates the most from the rest, at first listen
it sounds a lot like Roll Call (reprise) to me.  Overall, I imagine it will grow
on me- just like "Should the World fail to fall apart" has.

For those that care: The songs are-

Keep me from harm (4:25)
Kill the hate     (4:47)
You're so close   (5:29)
The Sweetest drop (6:53)
Low room          (4:21)
Let me love you   (3:33)
Our secret garden (5:44)
Dream gone by     (6:03)
Hit song          (5:28)

It should be available just about everywhere by now.

As far as I know, there haven't been any singles off of this
album but I have seen singles from Deep appear on
Sound Wharehouses computers- Do these really exist, and
if so, do they contain any B sides?

Thanks,
Darren K. Bolding
darren@rice.edu
From: mendola@acsu.buffalo.edu (James J. Mendola)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: pixies in SF (whew!)
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:40:20 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <jlakncs@fido.asd.sgi.com> sjohnson@faulen.asd.sgi.com (Scott Johnson) writes:

<intelligently-written, probably-accurate concert review deleted>

>
>catch 'em while you can.  the widespread rumor is there's only one
>more album left in the pixies, then they go their separate ways.
>maybe it'll be for the best, but i doubt it.  curious to see who
>black'll pick up to be his henchmen.
>
>sj		"Got finally off to finally dozin'" - bf

	Whoa!!  I realize I live in the alternative boonies (Buffalo NY), 
but if this is a widespread rumor, I would think I'd have heard it.  Where
did you hear such a terrible thing?  Say it ain't so!  You have ruined an
otherwise wonderful day.

			JiM
From: kimyh@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (?)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: new jane's addiction?
Date: 14 Apr 92 19:22:15 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
	
	Yes, Perry Farell has formed a new band.

'porno' something in its name........



Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: igj@leland.Stanford.EDU (Ian Glen Jacobs)
Subject: Re: stage diving
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 92 03:28:04 GMT




I find it kinda sad that Social Distortion is on the against list.
I guess Mike Ness is now too old for it. 

:(


-I-
From: jordan@atlas.cs.uga.edu (CHARLES JORDAN)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Best Pogues? Most Erotic Alternative Music?
Date: 14 Apr 92 23:06:12 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

In article <1992Apr14.185451.3445@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> dhbutler@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (David Butler) writes:
>1) What is the best stuff from The Pogues?
Here's a rundown of the Pogues stuff I've heard, in order from best to
merely brilliant (at their worst, the Pogues are brilliant):

If I Should Fall From Grace With God 
	(Best songs: South Australia (on CD), If I Should Fall..., and
		     Turkish Song of the Damned)
Poguetry in Motion (an EP that is included on the Best of the Pogues
		    greatest hits CD -- NOT the American "Essential")
Rum, Sodomy and the Lash
Peace and Love
Red Roses for Me (their first album, all Irish folk)
Straight to Hell (only four songs)
Hell's Ditch

>2) What would be the most *erotic* alternative music I could find (note, I
>   don't mean "I fucked her brains out", I mean a little more erotic, a sexual
>   rhythm and lyrics, not just crude lyrics put to the same old shit. In other
>   words, I'm sort of looking for the alternative music equivalent of blues 
>   (yeah, that's it!)
Well, it's NOT blues, and it's only one song, but the most sexual song I've
ever heard (including "Me So Horny") is called "Pulling Touch" by Poi Dog
Pondering, off the album Poi Dog Pondering.  The rest of the album isn't
bad, either.

Chuck

-- 
		Chuck Jordan  |  jordan@castor.cs.uga.edu
Everybody knows smoking kills, but it's cool!  What are you gonna do?
Everybody loves tar, sure who doesn't?  But doctors have known for well
over a year that it's bad for you...     -- Mystery Science Theater 3000
From: 881277m@ace.acadiau.ca (WALLACE MCLEAN)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Throwing Muses/Breeders/et cetera
Date: 15 Apr 92 16:42:56 GMT
Organization: Acadia University

What's new with regards to Tanya Donnelly and Kristin Hersch's post-Muses 
projects. I know there's a new Breeders release out, but is there any other 
news?

Just wunnering.
From: cuthbert@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David Cuthbert)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Most Erotic Alternative Music?
Date: 16 Apr 92 13:08:33 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Don't forget the Cramps. The name may not sound so erotic, but the music is 
full of major undertones and rumbles. 

As the "Gravest Hits" record says: 
"The Cramps don't pummel and you won't Pogo, they pound - you'll throb."

-Dave
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: ac@apmaths.uwo.ca (alka chandna)
Subject: more drooling over disposable heroes of hiphoprocy
Organization: Applied Mathematics, University of Western Ontario
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 19:16:11 GMT

Here in isolated London, Ontario (canada), i was able to purchase the dhoh 
offering quite easily, so i'm sure it's available in maryland (to the poster 
who expressed concern earlier).  i'm absolutely floored by it, and the 
lyrics (happily) don't leave my mind.  musically, the album is so fresh, so 
diverse, so *interesting*.  lyrically, i can't believe the wide extent of 
issues that are addressed.  philosophically, there's just so much insight in 
the songs, it's remarkable.  i can't get the "flavour of the month" piece 
out of my head, and i'm left awestruck by the song that talks about 
gay bashing.  the piece on "skin faders" and "plastic boobs" and "i still 
smell bad" is lyrically reminiscent of "trust your mechanic" (dead 
kennedys), but it carries an interesting punch as it points out the 
specific targeting of racial minorities to feel that they are physically 
inferior ... amazing (i'm kind of reminded of this totally 
fanfuckingtastic short story by Alice Walker entitled something like, "My 
Daughter Smokes Cigarettes", in which she talks about having 
found out that her daughter smokes, her sadness in finding that out, her 
memories of her father who used to smoke & eventually died a painful, long 
exaggerated death through horrible, awful throat and lung cancer, and her 
memories of cigarette billboards targeting the growing middle-class black 
community depicting glamourous African Americans consuming tobacco).

Does anyone know whether the DHOH will be touring??????  Any Canadian 
dates??  On the topic, what about Consolidated?  I missed them last time 
they were in the neighbourhood.

thanks,
alka
From: keitha@spider.co.uk (Keith Aitken)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The Cult - Dreamtime
Date: 7 Apr 92 12:25:08 GMT
Organization: Spider Systems Limited, Edinburgh, UK.

In article <1992Apr7.121328.10260@spider.co.uk> jimd@spider.co.uk (Jim Darroch) writes:
>In article <1992Apr6.173734.12151@cbnews.cb.att.com> itch@cbnews.cb.att.com (richard.m.brack) writes:
>>I have _dreamtime_ on vinyl and CD.  Nither of them have live
>>tracks so I doubt the cassette does.  The vinyl and CD versions
>>are the same except for the bonus tracks on the CD.  BTW, this is
>>my favorite Cult disc :-).  Love those band pics!!!!
>
>When _dreamtime_ was originally released in the UK, the vinyl version
>came with a free LP, entitled "Dreamtime Live" which was, surprisingly
>enough, a live LP.

I have this at home, I'll check on the tracklist and post it tomorrow.
-- 
_____________________________________________________________________________
Keith.D.Aitken,T&I Engineer | "Well,..........you *would* hear it............
Spider Systems, Edinburgh   |  ........if it was plugged in."
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: v115p8d6@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Quenby M Chunco)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: 10,000 Maniacs
Date: 7 Apr 92 00:43:30 GMT
Organization: UB

In article <1992Apr6.214750.6119@acsu.buffalo.edu>, v106lr4h@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Eric T Sasse) writes...
> 
>   Hey, what's the feeling about this group? 
>   I recently heard their album "Hope Chest" and was throughly taken! However,
>I also heard the latest 3 albums and hated them, why did they change their 
>style so much from their college sound? Did the record companies demand this so
>as to conform to what they considered would be a sound more likely to sell?
>The only other song I heard that even compares to the Hope Chest sound is one
>called "Headstrong", don't remember which album though. It's unique and dosen't
>sound as flat as the commercial songs.

Headstrong is off of "Blind Man's Zoo". I would think that there are a few
reasons their style changed. The producer that they got for "In My Tribe"
tried to give them a more polished sound and forced them to cover
"Peace Train" so they would have something popular on their album. John
Lombardo, who was an important part of the band, left after "The Wishing
Chair" (the first record on a major label). If you look at the song credits
on "Hope Chest" you will notice he had alot of input.

Personally, I like their music alot. I have seen them a few times in 
concert and they played a wide selection from all of their recordings.


>   I really appreciate how high Natalie's voice is in Hope Chest, and must 
>assume that it got deeper in the later albums, not being only 17 anymore, or
>is this rather an effect of how she decided to sing and can revert to the 
>other? Can anyone recommend some other pieces by this group which still have
>the life of Hope Chest in them, i.e. some obscure stuff floating about?

I don't know of any obscure stuff but John Lombardo formed another group
called John and Mary and they have released a record. Its called
"Victory Gardens".

> 
>   And what about the lyrics in "Planned Obsolesence", is the band wholly 
>Atheist or just the authors of that song? 

Natalie Merchant (from what I heard) had a strict Catholic upbringing
and tends to use religious imagery in her lyrics. Take a look at
the song "Jubilee."

> 
>       Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori, NON!!!!   
>                                                            -Eric 
>
From: sph@doc.ic.ac.uk (Simon Hughes)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Breeders New EP
Date: 9 Apr 92 14:00:54 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.

In <1992Apr8.035136.16277@unx.ucc.okstate.edu> u0508aa@unx.ucc.okstate.edu (Jeffrey Fields) writes:
>Is the new Breeder's EP out yet?  If not when is it due?  Anyone?

It is in Britain.  Cute little elephants on the cover!

Simon
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From: cuthbert@andromeda.rutgers.edu (David Cuthbert)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Nirvana ripped off the riff to "Smells like Teen Spirit"
Keywords: theft, dishonesty, rippoff, copyright violation, sue, sue, sue
Date: 14 Apr 92 18:03:54 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

Is this "Men w/o Hats" the same Mw/oH that did "Safety Dance" in the early
1980's?

-Dave
From: umsoroko@ccu.umanitoba.ca (the Crash Car Test Dummy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: 13 at Midnight
Date: 12 Apr 92 18:26:48 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada

I'm looking for any music by a group called 13 at Midnight.  I've been in
search of something by them for years (as in 7).  The only song that I
know they've release (as a single only) was "Time is Tight" (about 7 years
ago).  I've asked numerous music stores to get in touch with their distributors
and see if they can find anything.  Nothing.  Any information leading to
the whereabouts of such music would be appreciated.

Same goes with the group Our Daughter's Wedding.  The only album that I am
aware of is "Electric Cowboy" (or something like that), and that was about
8 years ago, too.

I hope to hear at least 1 reply (but somehow, I doubt it).


Mike Sorokowski		<umsoroko@ccu.umanitoba.ca>
From: nieder@iesd.auc.dk (Jesper Niedermann)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Nirv_bloody_ana
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:27:57 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, University of Aalborg

>>>>> On 3 Apr 92 14:58:18 GMT, ajs90@ecs.soton.ac.uk (Suter AJ) said:
Suter> Nntp-Posting-Host: webster

Suter> Some one posted an article on how much they are getting irritated with
Suter> NIrv_sodding_ana. I am faorced to agree with this person. I liked
Suter> sounds like teen spirit when it first came out. Now I am incredibly
Suter> annoyed with any little bastard that a. Owns the album.
Suter> 			                    b. Plays it.
Suter>                                      c. Admits to liking them.

Sounds to me like you get annoyed because it's not your private little
band anymore - that's plain stupid. It's true that most songs gets
annoying when you here them often enough, but you can always turn off
the radio or tv. I can only understand point b, a & c are totally
ridicioulus.


Suter> A year ago you had to offer the D.J. a blow-job to get the
Suter> egotistical bastards actually play any thing that all the sixteen year
Suter> old six-formers wouldn't dance to . Now you have to do the same to stop
Suter> them.

Being a Dane I don't know about the american radio scene, but I guess
you're right as everything(?) in USA (and a lot of the world) 
it's ruled by money. 

Suter> Basically the alternative music scene is the biggest crock of shite
Suter> that the world has ever seen .It makes James Last look credible. 
Suter> It is comprised of moronic sixth-formers who think the new overprice 
Suter> carter tee-shirt makes then the biggest rebel since James Dean
Suter> himself. The alternative scene need to stop thinking where the next
Suter> t-shirt and the latest teen indie band is coming from and wake the F**k up.

True, the word alternative is stupid. Alternative to what? I myself
consider it the norm. Country, Classical or Finnish Rockbands (great
I've heard) are more alternative. Apart from the name, a lot of the
music is quite good, so why bitch about it?

The rebel thing I don't care about. People can think of themselves as
rebels if they want to. Besides western youth is by its nature
rebellious. We shouldn't all have to die of drug and/or alcohol abuse
to prove it!!?! (The questionmark is for you Suter)

Suter> I hope this has given pause for thought.

Probably.

 - Jesper
From: schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: new jane's addiction?
Date: 14 Apr 92 15:58:42 GMT
Organization: University of Central Florida

WKM101@psuvm.psu.edu writes:

>has anyone heard of perry ferril joining a new band?
>is it true or a viscious rumor?
>TTHHEE GGOOOOBB-c/o will
>wkm101@psuvm

The band is called Porno for Pyros and will be starting
with an upcoming concert (I forget where and when).

mark
From: timothys@syma.sussex.ac.uk (Timothy Shuttleworth)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: MORRISSEY: That last line in "Cemetery Gates" (was "Suedehead")
Date: 5 Apr 92 20:29:14 GMT
Organization: University of Sussex at Brighton

In article <92092.154659ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET> ALWHC@CUNYVM.BITNET writes:
>
>     I noticed that in "Seudehead" there is an extra line at the very end
>that he sings over and over again as the song fades out. It is not on the
>lyric sheet. Can anyone who made out those words tell me what he said?
>
>   Al

Well, my opinion is that it is "It was a good lay, ah-ha-haa", but opinions
count for nothing.  Anyway, a few months ago he scribbled some annotations for
some tour photos in the NME and he used that as one of the captions (well, I
don't suppose I spelt the "ah-ha-haa" bit right, but you get the idea).
Then again, he could just have been teasing.

But what I really want to know is: what is the last line of "Cemetery Gates"?
The lyrics in the booklet give it as "While Wilde is on mine", but that
doesn't seem to be what he's singing (I can't even get it to fit). And then
there's the quiet voice just after he finishes it saying what sounds like
"sugar".  I've even tried sampling it and slowing it down and I still haven't
got a clue...

    Tim.
From: captainkidd@cedar.circa.ufl.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Da da da
Date: 8 Apr 92 04:10:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: math.1992Apr6.044956.2986
Reply-To: CAPTAINKIDD%oak.decnet@pine.circa.ufl.edu
Organization: The CIRCA Underground

In article <Mdqa7LW00WBME8fQAk@andrew.cmu.edu>, ac10+@andrew.cmu.edu (Alison Rebecca Colman) writes:
>Hi all,
>
>I heard this great song called "da da da" by this band called Trio. Does
>anyone have info on this band, and would know what album this song is
>on? I would really like to find it. Thanks!
>
>Big Al
goddamn, that's an old song.  it was released about 1982 or so in the US, and
even earlier in Germany (where, i suppose, the band hails from).  it is off
an album called TRIO AND ERROR.  it was released on PolyGram/ mercury
number 422-814-320-4 m-1the cover looks like a tic-tac-toe board, but
with smilie faces and other stuff drawn in.  it's a pretty good album, by the
way.
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From: nmf@aber.ac.uk (N M Fletcher)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: stone roses
Keywords: foooo-o-hooo-oools gold.
Date: 13 Apr 92 13:21:37 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

Hi.

I read in Q that some tracks are done, and they sound 'moody' and 'dark'
but they wont hit the shops until late autumn.

So we'll all have to wait.

Nick
From: dquesnel@laplace.waterloo.edu (darc)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: vancouver's subhumans
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:09:00 GMT
Organization: University of Waterloo

In article <140787@becker.UUCP> bdb@becker.UUCP (Bruce Becker) writes:
>In article <1992Mar27.234212.17392@descartes.waterloo.edu> (darc) writes:
>|In article <ac.27@> (alka chandna) writes:

>|>is anyone out there familiar with the vancouver band, subhumans (i don't 
>|>mean the british subhumans)?  "slave to my dick" has been on several 
>|>compilation albums, and more recently Gerry Hannah had an offering on the 
>|>soundtrack to Terminal City Ricochet ("Living with the Lies").  Can anyone 
>|>provide me with a discography, and more importantly, let me know how to get 
>|>any of this stuff.  thank you.

>|I think this subject has come up in rec.music.misc, but I just want to
>|reiterate that a good starting point to the history of the Vancouver
>|punk scene is the compilation "Last Call" from...  Well shoots isn't
>|that weird, I can't at all remember the name of the label.  I've been
>|having a lot of trouble in this area lately.  Let's see I know it's a
>|Vancouver-local label, hmm...  Can anybody help me out there?

>	Some of the Vancouver labels around 1980 were
>		Friends Records
>		Mo-Da-Mu Records
>		Pinned Records

I can't remember if anybody else actually followed up with
the correct response, but the fact is that "Last Call" was
actually released by Zulu Records out of Vancouver.  This
is a very recent release, 1991/2.

The main person involved in this is a record shop owner
(again, his name slips my mind), and the label (Zulu) is
basically run out of his store.  From what I remember he's
been involved in the scene for a long time and been
involved in putting together a few other releases.

>	Subhumans were on
>	"Vancouver Complication"	Pinned			1979
>	"Vancouver Independence"	Friends			1980

>	and also on
>	"Let them Eat Jellybeans"	Alternative Tentacles	1981

>	and made this album
>	"Incorrect Thoughts"		Friends			1980

I'll have to look into these.  Thanks.


--darc
in a gadda da mother theresa, baby
From: grecomv@duvm.ocs.drexel.edu (Mike Greco)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Stone Roses-Questions
Date: 17 Apr 92 17:57:43 GMT

In article <92108.121146SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu>, SXL136@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
> 
> I have been a long-time fan of Stone Roses' self-titled album, but I have a
> few questions...
> 

> 2.  I only have the self-titled album, is there any EP's, singles, live
> versions, re-mixes, earlier/later stuff under different names?  I know there
> is a remix of Waterfall or something, but I have not been able to get my
> hands on it yet...I go to a college in the sticks.

First off, the distinction must be made between import and domestic releases.
Putting that aside for a brief moment, let me tell you that the stone roses
have one of the largest discographies of any band that started only a few
years ago and haven't put anything legitimatly new out in over a year and a 
half. I too am a stone roses fan, but thankful im not as much as some of my
friends. You may not be familiar with all the legal issues the roses have been
faced with in the past. The most recent one being with their former label
Silvertone in the UK (RCA in US). Over the course of time when the roses were 
on Silvertone, they put out MANY 12" singles (almost one for evey song).THese
12" singles contained other songs previously unreleased.  They also put out
12" singles for songs that were not on the original album. (i.e. Fools gold
and others(cant remember right now)). Now after fools gold was released, RCA
in the states decided to put out the original CD with the added fools gold
track. So now i know that have at least 2 versont of the album ( one with fools
gold and one without). In addition to the Domestic and import( from UK) stuff
they have several japanese and french editions of material.  This is where being
as big a fan as some people I know or a big collector gets very expensive.
one last thing.  Since the legal issues with silvertone and the consequental
drop of the roses from the label, Silvertone has decided to make as much money
as possible off their rights to the songs.  They have come out with at least
one new single of unpublished material since the split and reissued ALL the 12"
singles in a box set CD pack.( so in other words, you can obtain all the 12"
singles including the b sides by buying the cd box set). You dont have to go
looking for all the singles individually, which is very convenient.
hope this is not too confusing.
Mike
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative,rec.music.cd
From: vishal@ra.csc.ti.com (Vishal Markandey)
Subject: Patti Smith's "Radio Ethiopia" - Missing Track?
Organization: Texas Instruments
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 18:19:55 GMT

I recently noticed that while the CD for Patti Smith's "Radio
Ethiopia" lists 8 tracks, my CD player shows only 7 tracks.  Either
my CD is missing the 8th track (Abyssinia) or it is mixed in with
the 7th track (Radio Ethiopia).  I don't think the latter is the case
but I could be wrong.  Anyone else notice this?

Thanks!

- Vishal