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From: karish@pangea.Stanford.EDU (Chuck Karish)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Modification of CBX-1000 via GSXR-750-1100
Date: 25 Dec 1992 20:30:23 GMT
Organization: Mindcraft, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: pangea.stanford.edu
Keywords: CBX GSXR

In article <1992Dec25.065524.10798@nlm.nih.gov> dabl2@nlm.nih.gov
(Don A.B. Lindbergh) writes:
>Can anyone tell me something/point to sources about modifying a 1979 CBX
>suspension via GSXR.

Why would you want to?  The CBX is a wonderful classic as a CBX.
It'd be a lousy sportbike no matter what forks you put on it.

>Specifically I'm interested in further information about connecting GSXR

The front suspension swap should be possible, at some
expense.  I don't know the dimensions, but you have to
think about fork length as well as steering stem
dimensions.  Make sure you can get adequate ride height
with the Suzuki forks.  Custom-length fork tubes will be
expensive; a custom steering stem, if you need it, should
be affordable.

The rear is another story.  Grafting the single-shock
Suzuki rear end to a CBX won't be easy.  If you could do
it, you'd have to strengthen the frame significantly to get
the suspension to work as it does on a GSXR.  After all
that, you'd have to deal with a bike with, probably,
a longer wheelbase and a higher center of gravity than the
GSXR has; it sure wouldn't handle like a GSXR.
--

    Chuck Karish          karish@mindcraft.com
    (415) 323-9000 x117   karish@pangea.stanford.edu
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Triumph in my garage!
Date: 27 Dec 92 19:29:35 GMT
Organization: Why do you suspect that?

Well, my Xmas time trade has brought it off.  The Vespa P200 with the sidecar
went away, and in it's place appeared a Triumph TR-6.  Guess I'l have to 
doctor up the .sig again.


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: The vertical 1/4 mile
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 15:01:48 GMT

In article <1h59orINNojo@transfer.stratus.com>
|
|So you're saying an F15 is slower to 150 than a ZR-1, even though a 40 year
|old piston aircraft can make it look silly just doing 0-40 ? 

Yes.  A variable-pitch prop is a wonderful thing.  Think of it as a
clutchless, infinite ratio, continuously variable transmission.  With
the 2400 hp RR Merlin at horsepower peak right out of the trap, it has
a clear advantage over the car, which must build in rpm, being off the
hp peak most of the time due to non-optimal gearing ratios.  Further, 
as for the F-15, jets are least efficient when at v=0, and gain 
efficiency as they increase speed.  A prop is MOST efficient at v=0, 
and decreases efficiency with speed (this is assuming a variable-pitch 
prop, of course).  It is not in the least suprising that a P-51 can 
blow an F-15 off the line.  (Keep in mind that a P-51 is at the TOP of
the technology ladder for piston-engine combat aircraft, and an F-15
is far from that for jets.)

You also get that feeling from the seat of your pants.  Ride in an old
prop-driven airliner, or a vintage bomber, if you ever get the chance.
The initial acceleration is quite impressive.  Yet a modern airliner,
even though the throttles are advanced to 100% immediately on roll,
feels like they are slowly increased.  That effect is the engines
picking up efficiency as the speed increases.

Did you know that an F-4 Phantom (no slouch, by any measure) cannot do
minimum-speed touch-and-go's without an extended runway length?  I 
personally watched an F-4 belly a landing because he forgot to lower his
gear, and by the time he started his landing flare (and the announcer
screamed at him that his gears were up), even though he was still 
flying he didn't have enough power at that low a speed to accelerate the
plane back to flying speed.  (Reference: Blue Angels, summer of 1970,
Cedar Rapids, Iowa, "Airshow `70")  (He bellied the plane, which started 
burning about 50 feet after touching down, rode the burning plane until 
it was past the audience, then safely ejected from ground level.  
Impressive, to say the least. :-)

That's just a quirk of jets.  Now you see what a technological triumph a
Harrier is, eh?

ObMoto: I didn't get any motorcycle-related Christmas presents. I think 
I need new relatives.  :-/

Dave Svoboda (svoboda@void.rtsg.mot.com)    | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmm!)              |  this weird shit
84 RZ 350 (Ring Ding) (Woops!)              |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905  DoD #0330  COG 939  (Chicago)   |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bade@austin.ibm.com (Steve Bade)
Subject: Re: Call me Stupid...
Originator: bade@athena2.austin.ibm.com
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:24:00 GMT
Reply-To: bade@wombat.austin.ibm.com
Organization: IBM Austin TX             


In article <Bzrsn7.4py@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>, cstringe@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Chuck Stringer) writes:
> bade@wombat.austin.ibm.com writes:
> I agree about the price comparison, but I just bought a new jacket a
> few weeks ago, so there wouldn't be much savings for me. Anyway, I
> can wear the jacket other places so I don't have to buy a new winter
> coat. What I'm concerned about is my tush. Leather pants, aren't out of the
> question, but I'm curious about alternatives. Aerostich is way beyond
> my budget. I've heard all the raves about the hand-made quality and
> and flashy styling and that's fine but what I need is something
> utilitarian. Marsee was suggested and I'm going to check them out, are
> there any other similar products on the market?

Try the Motoport product line then.  I love the Aero, however my
wife does not like the slippery feeling on the seat (A corbin on
her bike would fix that, but that has to wait), so we got a pair
of Motoport pants (About 180 + shipping), however they were just
a bit short for her, looks like I'm going to buying those
Hein Gerick suspendered pants after all.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach)
Subject: Re: Big Wives and Tire Info Numbers (was Goldwings are interesting)
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 18:00:19 GMT

In article <1992Dec29.023550.1662@netcom.com> avery@netcom.com (Avery Ray Colter) writes:
>wellison@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu writes:
>
>>I still like old Hog's though, but the wife says only one bike at
>>a time and I sure don't want to sell my wing (she's bigger than me, the wife
>>that is ;-) 
>
>That brings up a question I've been wondering, being one who also tends
>toward ladies of the "softail" variety. ;)
>
>I see these stickers on the frames of like, "max capacity, X lbs", where
>X seems to be something between 350 and 400. In others' experience, is
>this number a hard-and-fast kind of thing? If I wind up with a lady in
>the supersize range, should I despair of ever taking her riding? Are there
>any mods that can be done to crank up X?
>

With a 250 Nighthawk, I would expect the limited power to be as much or 
more of a problem. 

Jeff Achenbach
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: BMW Flintstone Model,  Was Re: Dealer won't budge on '91 ST1100
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 92 14:31:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec30.195227.3643@serval.net.wsu.edu> bill@wsuaix.csc.wsu.edu (William E. Johns;S23015) writes:
>In article <1992Dec30.132516.3503@cbnewsh.cb.att.com> wolf@merlin.mt.att.com writes:

   ***   all that Honda stuff deleted   ***

>>P.S.  I have been considering getting a BMW R100GS P-D, but that bike seems to
>>be an apparition: everyone has heard and seen it, but no dealer seems to have one :-)
>>
>
>Not true.  Aloha BMW (a couple miles west of Portland) is carrying a new
>1993 PD.  Folks you will not believe this, but BMW has come up with a new
>color scheme that is absolutely ugly IMHO.  The new paint jobs make my now
>classic '92 looks like a dream.  The PD comes in 3 colors lavender, red and
>the beautiful green.  It is not so much the color, but the way they did it.
>All new PD's will have a snow white front end.  The color comes in about
>half way into the tank (from the front).  It sorta blends in like a lumpy
>air gun job.  The truly bizarre feature is the decal of gravel that circles
>the tank.  Honest, would I kid you?  Someone should ask BMW WHY?!?!
>
>Mechanically, the bikes are identical to the '92.
>
>Don't waste your money on a ST1100, get the Beemer instead.  Just get ready
>for riding an ugly bike. ;-)


Ectually, what you have discovered is the new BMW "Flintstone" model.

If the gravel decal turns your stomach as bad as it does mine, the decal
*WILL* come off.  It's installed by the dealer, as part of the prep ...
so just get to them before they put it on in the first place.

I'm told that there was some contention over BMW using the name "Paris Dakar"
after all these years, so now it's just called the "PD" model.


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
          BMW K1100-LT, R80-GS/PD, R69S, R27, Triumph TR6
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Specs on bikes...
Date: 22 Dec 92 17:39:44 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


	You might try getting a  '85 Nighthawk 700 S (Honda)...It is a
	sporty standard with a bikini fairing. The Engine is a 16
	valve, inline four with a 6 speed transmission w/ shaft drive.
	The bike can haul and I have kept up easily with a 500
	intercepter and have heard of them out doing CBR 600 F2's. The
	bike is easy to maintain and is a good all around bike...One
	you graduate you will find that sprt bikes become really easy
	to use in the turns what with the lower seating angle. The
	Nighthawk makes you work a little bit in order to go where you
	want...70 miles of curves make me really sore but it is great
	fun on this bike...They go for around $1600-$2500, used of
	course...

					Ryan
					Scraper of knees....(Owwww)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Ride em Cowboy".
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 07:48:21 GMT

jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton) writes:

>I say we put a private detective on her ass and expose her deepest darkest
>innermost secrets.

	She grew up in Denison, Iowa, a mere 100 miles from me and a town
that has no redeeming qualities.  What else do you need?

< Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu viking@iastate.edu >
<  ISU only censors what I read, not what I say.  Don't blame them.  >
<  "Are you *SURE* he's worth a Harley-Davidson?" -- my grandmother  >
< to my girlfriend, about me.  "I'd better not say" -- my girlfriend >
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: sreeb@crash.cts.com (Ed Beers)
Subject: Re: ME33A Laser wearing too fast. Why? What is your experience?
Organization: CTS Network Services (crash, ctsnet), El Cajon, CA
Date: 22 Dec 92 04:44:12 GMT

In <mjs.724939112@zen.sys.uea.ac.uk> mjs@sys.uea.ac.uk (Mike Sixsmith) writes:

>I don't know what bike you have, but you're running pressures which sound
>a bit low to me - I have the Metzeler pressure leaflet in front of me, and
>for most of the fitments they recommend 36psi. If you're running less than
>this (4 -8 psi = 10 - 20% difference) then that cetainly won't help
>either mileage or handling - when the pressure is too small then the tyre
>will tend to run on its edges more than it should, rather then sitting
>on the middle of the tread, and this could explain the wear pattern you've
>got.

Where did you get this.  I have been using 26 front, 28 rear on my SR500
since the owners manual said to.  Do newer tires require heigher pressure?
For that matter, how does tire pressure effect handling.  I have always
left it at Yamaha's recommendation since all the begineers literature 
leaves the impression that to do otherwise is a recipe for instant death.
On the other hand, my experience with cars leads me to believe that changes
in tire pressure can be really handy for fine tuning the handling.  Anybody
out there have any useful advise in this area?

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Re: Dear Abby sez "Don't let kids get on motorcycles"
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 02:40:49 GMT

In article <RTsiwB1w164w@ham.almanac.bc.ca> emd@ham.almanac.bc.ca writes:
>ramage@ece.scarolina.edu (Dan Ramage) writes:
>
>> I remember taking out the policy on my bike and saying "Oh please make
>> sure and include coverage which will insure me against someone sitting
>> on my bike and injuring themselves without my knowledge."  I think
>> NOT! 
>
>Cool down, Dan. You probably already have such coverage. It's called 
>liability insurance. 

I don't know about your coverage, but my liability coverage explicitly
says "this coverage does not apply .. for any person using your cycle
without your permission to do so ..."

>And the courts have held for decades (centuries, probably) that you're 
>legally responsible for taking reasonable steps to prevent children (who 
>are not legally competent to make decisions) from access to an 
>"attractive nuisance". 

But in the case in point, the children were in the direct care of other
adults at the time, who presumable *are* legally competent.

BTW, the only "reasonable steps" I can think of in this case is to put
a cover over the bike.  Maybe that's a good idea anyway.

>A swimming pool, for example, constitutes such an "attractive nuisance", 
>and if a kid falls in it because your yard or the pool isn't fenced, 
>expect someone to pay a very hefty settlement. 

Understood, but I believe my renter's insurance *would* cover this
sort of thing (if I had a pool, that is).  Does it cover my bike too?

>One of the bike magazzines had a discussion about this subject 10 or 12 
>years ago, and pointed out, that legally, a motorcycle, with its chrome 
>and shiny paint, may also constitute an attractive nuisance. If you park 
>your recently ridden motorcycle, with its hot exhaust pipes in an area 
>with a bunch of little kids playing, and one of them wanders over and 
>burns his hands on your exhaust system, you COULD get sued over it.

You *could* get sued over *anything*, to my knowledge.  Anything at
all--for example someone could be offended by the color of your
clothing.  How far they'd get with it and how much trouble they could
make for you is the real question.

I wonder why, with the propensity teenagers have to go joyriding in
stolen cars, buses (no kidding), etc., *any* motor vehicle isn't
considered an "attractive nuisance."  Who pays for the damage (and
injuries) that these kids cause when they wreck these vehicles?

I would have been 1,000% happier with Dear Abby's response if she'd
prefixed it with just a simple qualification, e.g.:

"Yes, it is despicable and stupid of people to let their kids play on
anyone else's vehicle without permission, but just in case one of
these morons' kids *does* get hurt, knowing the nature of litigation
in our society, I hope for your sake you have insurance."

Then the only question would be what kind of insurance can you get
to protect against this sort of thing?

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
From: carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Bra auction for charity (was: Re: Attention electric vest owners!
Date: 23 Dec 92 00:22:56 GMT
Organization: ISC-Bunker Ramo, An Olivetti Company

laszlo@partial.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:

>now bidding $26

OK, I'll go $27.
--
Carl Paukstis, RRR&RSG             |"The good news is that Clinton will have to
 Olivetti North America/Spokane,WA | work hard to do worse than Bush in terms
 Phone: +1 509 927-5439            | of economic policy.  The bad news is that
 Mail: carlp@mail.spk.olivetti.com | he will probably manage to do so"-Ed Ipser
From: mdennie@beryllium.mc.xerox.com (Matt Dennie)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Tires for Sport Bikes
Date: 29 Dec 92 19:45:58 GMT
Reply-To: mdennie@beryllium.mc.xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Corporation

In article 24396@muddcs.claremont.edu, tradsick@jarthur.claremont.edu (Tim Radsick) writes:

Blah Blah Blah.. (removed)

>The current tire is a 120/60, but the guy at CJ's Cycle said that he could
>sell me a used 120/70 (he has a few different types).  What are the effects
>both pro and con of the lower profile tires

(more Blah)

>I assume that the difference between a
>60 series and a 70 series tire is fairly small?
>
>Thanks alot,
>-Tim
>Radsickt@PL-Edwards.AF.mil
>Tradsick@jarthur.claremont.edu

The number after the / gives the tire height as a percentage of the
width (given in mm before the /).  Therefore a 120/70 is TALLER than a
120/60 by 10% of 120mm (ie. 12mm taller sidewall, or 24mm larger in
diameter).

Maybe a 600f2 squider would like to comment on pet tires..

---
--Matt Dennie   DoD#6288                  Internet: mmd.wbst207v@xerox.com
Xerox Corporation, Rochester, NY (USA)
"Reaching consensus in a group often
 is confused with finding the right answer."  -- Norman Maier
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Physics of Crashes
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Fri, 25 Dec 92 14:19:48 GMT

In article <22989@drutx.ATT.COM> ljb@parkcity.dr.att.com (BLO54620-BonhamLJ(DR2194)240) writes:
>You'll have to forgive the elementary nature of this question as I am still
>trying to fully understand the dynamics of bike handling.
>
>I was watching some footage of Grand Prix bike races in which several single
>bike shunts were shown and I could not readily identify the cause of these
>mishaps.  All the shunts occured as the bike was fully leaned into a corner
>at or near the apex or the corner.  Appearantly, the front wheel became suddenly
>crossed up and launched the rider over the handle bars as the bike tumbled end
>over end.  What I don't understand is what caused this reaction in the bike.?
>
>It seems to me that the most likely thing to hapen if the tires exceed their
>limit of adhesion is to break free and alow the bike to slide out along the
>radius of the turn, and depending on the center of mass at the time, the bike
>would either scrub off speed until adhesion was re-established or it would
>fall on its side into the turn. 
>
>This assumption obviously didn't apply in the actual cases on the film.  So,
>what caused the front to suddenly buckle and pitch the rider?

Ah yes, hows that song go?

High side, low side, all around the town ...


What you imagine, when the bike slides out from under you is called a
"low side" get off, and you end up sliding on the road.  I suspect what
you are seeing is what's called a "high side" get off ... that's where
the bike did slide and then the tire grabbed again (suddenly) throwing
the rider violently over the bike - in whatever direction the rider's
mass was moving at that instant.

The more common street occurance of a high side is when someone has locked
up the rear wheel so that the rear of the bike slides out, and then they
let off the brake causing the tire to be able to grab traction once again.
Done wrong, this will high side you real quick.  That's why the MSF says
to keep the rear wheel locked, etc, etc, etc.


Charlie Smith   charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org  csmith@dsac.dla.mil  whois ces10
MOA# 52888, RA# 15633, DoD# 0709, AMA# 574722, Buckey Beemers 411, BK Ohio V
BMW K1100-LT, R69S, R27 and other even less worthwhile [ 2 | 3 ] wheel stuff
From: robinson@cogsci.Berkeley.EDU (Michael Robinson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Whoever dies with the most toys, still dies
Date: 2 Jan 1993 21:56:15 GMT
Organization: Institute of Cognitive Studies, U.C. Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: cogsci.berkeley.edu
Keywords: WD-40

In article <1993Jan2.153959.18940@husc3.harvard.edu> zeleny@husc9.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny) writes:
>Don't you have to love it, -- a He-man pissing contest, with just the
>right amount of ironic detachment.  Well, I guess I'll just "have" to
>list my evil baby-killing laser-sighted semiautomatic 20-shot 7.62
>NATO SIG AMT (with four extra magazines), the surgically precise 9mm SIG P210,
[etc.]

>P.S.  Almost forgot to list a 1974 vintage, 5'7", 115#, nipple-length
>haired, exotic Oriental bimbette bedwarmer.  

>P.P.S.  What do I win?

A discount coupon you can use to get a life for 20% off the regular price.


ObMoto:  I noticed in the "stupid climate tricks" thread that there was 
near universal consensus that WD-40 was an inadequate lubricant for such 
things as spline cables.  I know for a fact it is effective enough as a
lubricant that you don't want to get it anywhere near brake pads.  Could 
someone please explain?


-- 
  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Michael Robinson                          UUCP:   ucbvax!cogsci!robinson
                                        INTERNET: robinson@cogsci.berkeley.edu
From: azw@aber.ac.uk (Andrew Michael Woodward)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Call me Stupid...
Date: 24 Dec 92 10:50:21 GMT
Organization: University of Wales, Aberystwyth

>
>  OK, now *that's stupid*.  Get your ass (and anything physically
>  connected to it) into some protective gear.
>
>
>  Better sig off as buyer of leathers/Aerostitch.
>
>  Cheers,
>  Victor "Dances with Ballistic Nylon" Johnson
>  --------------------------------------------

Aerostich finally arrived! Generally good impression, except for certain
blindingly obvious cockups in design which show its made in a country
without weather. Will post a review when I've had it a couple of months.

Andy 'never bothered to learn to dance' Woodward
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash)
Subject: Re: Front Tire Off Ground
Originator: dab@space3
Organization: Vanderbilt University School of Engineering, Nashville, TN, USA
Distribution: rec.motorcycles
Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 17:33:09 GMT

In article <4492@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317) writes:
>How can I get the front tire of my motorcycle about 7" off the ground
>and remove my front tire without having to buy a $325.67 motorcyle
>stand, and without endagering the lives of anyone with a four block
>radius from where this activity may occur?????
>	For those who must know, I obviously need to replace the
>light bulb inside the chrome Eagle, whose eyes light up, on my front
>fender. You all do have those on your bikes right???
>
>Tod J. Johnson
>DoD #883
>"Go Slow, Take Geritol"

Dear Tod,

Your approach is all wrong.  After removing the axle nut, simply lay the 
bike on its side and withdraw the axle out the top.  Then you can remove the 
tire from the side.  This is easiest to do if you leave the tire mounted on
the wheel during the procedure.

Glad to help.

BTW... BMWs will balance on the centerstand with either wheel removed.
Perhaps you should consider a BMW centerstand.  

For the Humor Impared:  :-)
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