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From: Daniel A. Torrey <daniel@boombox.micro.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Telnetting under the PC Client...a solution!
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Organization: CIS/DSP University of Minnesota
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Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:44:23 GMT

In article <dan.70@ortta.umn.edu> Daniel C. Cummings, dan@ortta.umn.edu
writes: 

>Now with this new "swap" routine, this type of trouble has gone away for
me 
>and it sounds like it has for you too!  I'll forward this correspondence
to  
>Daniel and see what he thinks.  Maybe an optional warning, or maybe do
away 

As it stands right now, the next version will allow you to configure
the amount of memory that your vt100/3270 emulator needs.  If you
select a terminal session item and memory is below the limit you've set,
the dialog box will pop up.  So, if you just set the memory required to
zero, things should work OK.


---

Daniel A. Torrey
PC Gopher Tamer & Hard Catmaster
University of Minnesota CIS/DSP
daniel@boombox.micro.umn.edu
(612) 625-1300
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From: trimble@ph-meter.beckman.uiuc.edu (Chris Trimble)
Subject: Re: Xgopher quiting when submenu process terminated
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 18:42:09 GMT

dan@igate.c-mols.siu.edu (Dan Ellison) writes:

>Hi all.  I have noticed a little problem using xgopher 1.2 under
>SCO ODT-2.0 (and 1.1 as far as that goes.)  The problem is that
>whenever a popup window is raised, used and terminated, the
>whole gopher client terminates.  This is certainly annoying
>to say the least.  Has this been observed on other platforms
>or is this something peculiar to SCO's product?  I compiled
>using the X11R5 libraries.  Is ther a fix for this that I missed
>in the news?

 You're not alone. I'm using X11R5 on a Sun IPX and the Motif GUI
 and have noticed the exact same thing. 

   - Chris
--
Chris Trimble	                | Birthday party, 
B.I. Systems Services           | cheesecake, jellybeans,
chris1@uiuc.edu                 | BOOM!					- R.E.M 
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From: lindner@mudhoney.micro.umn.edu (Paul Lindner)
Subject: Re: Selective directory limitations?
Keywords: gopher, publishing, library, access
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis
Distribution: world,local
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:11:10 GMT

In <10JAN199310554357@milori.ccit.arizona.edu> dsewell@milori.ccit.arizona.edu (SEWELL, DAVID R.) writes:

>This may be an RTFM question, but I haven't had hands-on experience
>setting up a gopher server and so haven't yet studied the
>documentation.  

>Suppose I have on a gopher server one area that contains files
>I want people to be able to read on-line but not to copy readily.
>(Let's say it's copyrighted material.)  I know that anything that can
>be read can be screen-grabbed or logged.  But would it be possible to 
>make copying more difficult by doing the following:

>  1) disable the mail-to function for the selected files

Easily done for a C hacker..

>  2) run scrolling for the selected files not through the client's
>     pager but through a pager on the server that slows down scrolling
>     speed so that a reader can't just zip through the file to 
>     "download" it.

You could write your own pager for this.

Unfortunately this is only for a client.  People with TurboGopher etal
wouldn't have this restriction, which blows a whole in this plan.

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 | Paul Lindner | lindner@boombox.micro.umn.edu   | Slipping into madness
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 | Gophermaster | University of Minnesota         | of comparision.
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From: g3wong@student.business.uwo.ca (Gregory Wong)
Subject: X-Terminals
Organization: University of Western Ontario
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 04:11:05 GMT

Can anyone tell me the difference between an X-terminal and conventional 
terminals?

Thanks in advance.

greg

g3wong@student.business.uwo.ca (Gregory Wong)
Western Business School  --  London, Ontario
From: kaskubar@mayo.edu (Bruce Kaskubar)
Subject: Scheduling algorithms
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 93 15:53:04 GMT

Can anybody lead me to a body of literature regarding scheduling  
algorithms?

Thanks

Bruce Kaskubar, kaskubar@mayo.edu
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From: sheldon@iastate.edu (Steve Sheldon)
Subject: Re: running INFO from menu interface
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:42:22 GMT

In <"mailhub.li.366:06.00.93.22.13.52"@liverpool.ac.uk> Mr Liang Rao <JCDR01@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK> writes:

>On Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:50:38 -0500 WEIHE GUAN
>(GLLGUAN%UBVMS.BITNET@edu.buffalo.cc.UBVM) said:

>>>  &sys xterm -e $ARCHOME/programs/arc \&r aml_file

>As I know, the above opening of another session of ARC will

>1) take another ARC registrated licence;

 Hmm, it shouldn't.  I should think this would be the same as if I were to
open an xterm and then running Arc.

 I could be wrong.  I find the Arc license server setup to be extremely
annoying.

>2) stay in background. Is there anywhere in aml to kill it when
>   the session is over?

 My experience has shown that the arc session will die when the aml script
has finished execution.  And I believe the xterm session will die when the
arc program finishes.

 I found this interesting, and plan on trying this method for something I
need to do here shortly.
-- 
sheldon@iastate.edu                Steve Sheldon
Project Vincent                    ICSS Resource Unit
SCO ODT, Arc/Info, Atlas GIS       2142 Agronomy Hall
                                   Iowa State University
From: JRAMIREZ@itesmvf1.rzs.itesm.mx
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: Books & Magazines
Date: 12 Jan 93 18:53:30 GMT
Organization: ITESM Mexico State Campus


 
   Hi, I'm new in GIS and I don't know what books or magazines are good for a
beginner, I would appreciate if someone can help me and e-mail me a list of
books and magazines.
 
Thanks in advance.
                  Jorge.
 
jramirez@itesmvf1.rzs.itesm.mx
jramirez@rsserv.cem.itesm.mx
 
JORGE ADOLFO RAMIREZ URESTI.
RETORNO DE LA LECHUZA #10,
LAS ALAMEDAS,
ATIZAPAN DE ZARAGOZA,
ESTADO DE MEXICO, MEXICO.
C.P. 52971.
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 10:04:52 PST
From:         good@GOODRS.GEOG.UCSB.EDU
Subject:      Not another new organization!

University Consortium for Geographic Information and Analysis
(UCGIA)


Some months ago, and with the encouragement of the NCGIA Board of
Directors, David Mark, Harlan Onsrud and I asked a small group of
people to form a committee to look at the question of whether there
might be merit in forming a multidisciplinary organization to
represent the academic research and/or education communities in GIS
and related areas.  The group included:

Ron Abler, AAG
Marc Armstrong, University of Iowa
John Bossler, Ohio State
Dave Cowen, University of South Carolina
Joe Ferreira, MIT
Randolph Franklin, Rensselaer
Mike Goodchild, UCSB
Kingsley Haynes, George Mason
Len Hochberg, Stanford
Carol Johnston, University of Minnesota, Duluth
David Mark, SUNY Buffalo
Bob McMaster, University of Minnesota, Twin Cities
Judy Olson, Michigan State
Harlan Onsrud, University of Maine
Al Vonderohe, University of Wisconsin, Madison
Jeff Wright, Purdue

We met informally at SDH in Charleston and at GIS/LIS 92, and
organized an AAG-sponsored session at GIS/LIS with a panel that
also included David Maidment from the University of Texas, Austin,
and Waldo Tobler from UCSB.  A list server, UCGIA-L, has also been
set up to exchange ideas.  The results to date have been summarized
in a paper to be presented at the ACSM in New Orleans in February
(the paper will be in the proceedings).  I won't attempt to
summarize the paper here!

Anyone interested in these issues is invited to subscribe to UCGIA-
L.  You can do so by sending a message to
listserv@ubvm.cc.buffalo.edu (Internet) or listserv@ubvm (BITNET),
the content of the message to be:

subscribe ucgia-l 'Your name'

where 'Your name' is your real-world name, no need for quotes.

The ACSM paper can be obtained from the ftp node ncgia.ucsb.edu in
the pub/ucgia directory, or in hard copy as NCGIA Technical Report
92-6 from the Publications Office at UCSB, email
ncgiapub@ncgia.ucsb.edu, phone 805 893 8224, FAX 805 893 8617.

Mike Goodchild
From: gridley@toe.CS.Berkeley.EDU (Frank Gehrke)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: SAIF standard vs. FIPS USGS MetaData standard
Date: 8 Jan 1993 20:48:16 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: all
NNTP-Posting-Host: toe.cs.berkeley.edu

Has there been any investigation or comparison of the Spatial Archive and Interchange Format(SAIF) for geomatics data adopted by the Canadian General Standards
Board and the USGS Metadata standards. I'm particularly interested in the idea
of the potential for a translation program since the SAIF appears to be more 
comprehensive than the USGS standards. 

If replying by e-mail please use gridley@snow.water.ca.gov.

Thanks
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 16:42:00 CST
From:         Y13MXJ1@NIU.BITNET
Subject:      Re: TIGER DISPLAY PROGRAM??

Graphically visualizing TIGER files on PC could be a tremendous
amount of work.  Since the files are not structured for display
in particular, you have to also sacrifice some speed if directly
working on the files.  Each time you have to open at least two
biggest ASCII files to work with.  Since the files are not sorted,
you might either have to extract indices and sort them on the fly or
end up working on unsorted files with slow search techniques.  Since
I have been working on metropolitan areas, displaying TIGER files
always results in nearly unbearable speed on my 386/25MHz PC, even
with comercialized software like ATLAS*GIS.

Displaying TIGER files may involve zooming, panning, and selectively
displaying and hiding different feature classes and with different
colors/symbols/labels.  It all depends on to what level you want the
program to do.  If you just want to dump everything in TIGER on to
screen with one color, that should not be too difficult at all.  For
me, I prefer all the freedom I can have on the files.  So I use
ATLAS*GIS.

Minhe Ji
Center for Governmental Studies
Northern Illinois University
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From: is@geovision.gvc.com (Ian Skelly)
Subject: Geometrical Algorithms: Summary
Reply-To: is@geovision.gvc.com
Organization: Just Passing Through
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:59:28 GMT

A while back, I posted a request for various algorithms for gis.  I got
several pointers to books and papers, which I will summarize here.  Thanks
to the following for their help:

"(Christophe Claramunt Germinal)" <CLARAMUNT@elgr.epfl.ch>

Who referred to:

>- A fundamental book about geometric calaculations in general is
>the "Basic readings in GIS" edited by D. Marble, H. Calkings and
>D. Peuquet (New York, SPAD Systems Ltd)

>- A good reference (the geometrical algorithms is not a new area !)
>is "Applications of algebraic topology", Lefschetz S., 1975,
>(New York, Springer-Verlag)

>- And finaly "Some advantages of the point-vector representation of
>line segements in automated cartography, A. Scalfeld in INT J. of
>GIS, 1987, vol 1, n 4.

And:
kclarke@resdgw6.er.usgs.gov (Keith C. Clarke)
who referred to:
>A preliminary review of a few algorithms can be found in my
>book "Analytical and Computer Cartography", Prentice Hall 1990.
-- 
Ian Skelly, is@geovision.gvc.com
(This is not an official opinion/statement of GeoVision Systems Inc.)
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Date:         Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:18:50 -0400
From:         READER@SSCVAX.CIS.MCMASTER.CA
Subject:      "guide to postgrad courses in GIS"

Is there in existence a guide for courses offerred



ed at the postgrad level
in GIS ??

...i seem to recall a general course guide put together by Towson State (?)
...any help appreciated

replies to:

READER@MCMASTER.CA
From: aargyle@sobeco.com (a.argyle)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
Subject: what exactly is a DEM?
Summary: What is in a DEM file.
Keywords: DEM, mapping, gis
Date: 8 Jan 93 04:13:44 GMT
Distribution: comp.infosystems.gis
Organization: Sobeco Ernst & Young

I have been using a dos program called vistapro. It takes a DEM file and producing a startlingly pretty view of the area. I know that DEM stands for Digital Elevation Model but what exacvtly is it. I hve examed the vistapro DEM's and it appears that they use some type of compression. I would like to know how they are made so that I can write a simple program to make my own and then view them with vistapro. Can anyone out thewre help me?

            

                 -Godot is my co-pilot-
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:13:02 EST
From:         Sebastian.Heath@UM.CC.UMICH.EDU
Subject:      MapInfo Info

Hello,
Could somebody at MapInfo corp please send me a publicity packet.
The more detailed the better.  Please include any information about
your programming language which I believe is called MapBasic.

Address:
Sebastian Heath,
Kelsey Museum,
434 South State Street,
Ann Arbor, MI, 48104.

Thank You,
Sebastian Heath
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.gis
From: dmarble@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Duane F Marble)
Subject: Re: Environmental Racism
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:10:41 GMT

I must record my objective to the use of the term "environmental racism"
in this thread. While this might possibly be a conclusion of the research,
it is inappropriate -- in my mind -- in the present context. If one wishes
to examine the differential exposure of different population groups (including
older, white, geography professors) to environmental factors as did Robert
McMaster (see Proceedings, Third International Symposium on Spatial Data
Handling) I see no problem. However to start out with "environmental
racism" as a postulate seems to me to be inappropriate at least.
-- 
Duane F. Marble			       E-mail: dmarble@magnus.acs.osu.edu
Department of Geography                Telephone: (614) 292-2250
The Ohio State University
Columbus, Ohio 43210                   Fax: (614) 292-6213
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Date:         Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:45:27 -0500
From:         E7G4KIN@TOWSONVX.BITNET
Subject:      Re: digital weather?

I have gotten different types of digital data from NOAA...I will check the
phone numbers and how you can get in touch with them tomorrow...I will leave you
    a note tomorrow night...Ken Kinsey
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:46:09 -0500
From:         ERIC B PYLE <epyle@FORWILD.UMASS.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Can ARC/INFO data be used on a MAC ? ?

>
> In <C030oE.CID@ra.nrl.navy.mil> jc@i5120h.nrl.navy.mil (J. Clark) writes:
>
> >Happy New Year All ....
>
> >I have a question posed by some of our research types -
>
> >Can ARC/INFO (latest version) data be used on the MAC ?  Is there an
> >ARC/INFO for the mac or a different software package ?  Does any
> >format conversion need to be done ..?
>
> >Thanks for any thoughts/experiences
>
> >John
>
>
There is also ArcView for the Mac. It is an ESRI product and so is
completely compatible with ArcInfo, but is for display and output only
(no editing/data input).

Eric Pyle
epyle@forwild.umass.edu
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Date:         Fri, 8 Jan 1993 08:19:22 CST
From:         spiff <DBEHM@UA1VM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Spot data and Idrisi
              8 Jan 1993 11:19:00 GMT from <STGG8004@IRUCCVAX.UCC.IE>

IDRISI has a series of images in the exercise files that are very helpful
in learning how to combine and manipulate the various bands. Along with the
images are exercises that are very helpful in learing the system.

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UNIVERSITY GEOLOGIST                   THE UNIVERSITY OF ALABAMA
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:05:49 -0500
From:         John N Brown <gistrans@WORLD.STD.COM>
Subject:      Re: Intergraph to Arc/Info

The simplest way would be to use the DXF format files to transfer data.
Transferring attributes (especially distributed) might be a littel
trickier. Depends on what DBMS you use on the Intergraph system.

I have done this more than once with no sticky problems!

Good luck

Srinivas
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Date:         Sun, 10 Jan 1993 22:52:00 -0600
From:         Mark Johnson <johnson@ARC.AB.CA>
Subject:      Digital pictures of the earth and New Zealand

I have a friend who recently returned from a cycling trip around New Zealand.
In preparing his slide show for the trip, he asked if I had any digital
pictures of the Pacific side of the earth (to show Canadians where
New Zealand is ;-), and anything on New Zealand specifically.

Anyone know of such a thing?  Anyone with DCW willing to get New Zealand off
and mail it to me or put it up for ftp?

Mark Johnson
Alberta Research Council
johnson@arc.ab.ca
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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:44:31 PST
From:         Jonathan Gottsegen <jgotts@GEOG.GEOG.UCSB.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Environmental Racism
              07 Jan 93 21:15:17 PST." <9301111658.aa28022@pollux.GEOG.UCSB.EDU>

  Welcom M.T. Klein.  Yesterday's New York Times (Mon. 1/11) had a front page
article on community responses to environmental racism (although it does not
use those words).  Obviously, it won't be "scientific" but it may provide some
names or places to look.  Good luck...

 Jon Gottsegen
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Date:         Thu, 7 Jan 1993 09:53:00 PHL
From:         "Eleazer D. Hunt- IRRI" <E.HUNT@CGNET.COM>
Subject:      need conversion formula from sq area in lat/long to km.

Subj:   need conversion formula from sq area in lat/long to km.

I have several arc/info files in conic projection that contain polygons. I
would like to take the areas and convert them to sq km.  Can someone please
send me the conversion formula?  I am having trouble locating one in any of
the reference books.

thanks,
E. Hunt
IRRI

BTW I think it is faster than converting the coverages to UTMs
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Date:         Mon, 11 Jan 1993 10:21:25 -0500
From:         David Gould <gould@GIS.LISLAB.UGA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Does Atlas Draw "talk" to GRASS or Pmap?
              IRRI" at Jan 8, 93 08:30:00 am

>
> I have an outreach site that asks the question 'Does Atlas Draw talk to
> GRASS or Pmap?'  What they are asking is if Atlas Draw exports to GRASS or
> can GRASS read an Atlas .BNA export file?
> Any ideas/comments
> Thanks
> Hunt at IRRI
>

I can't tell you if there is a direct conversion available, but if you have
Atlas*Graphics as well you can create a flat ASCII file which you can
modify with a word processor.  You should be able to create a format that
could be read by GRASS (I have done this with IDRISI).

Good luck!

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Date:         Tue, 12 Jan 1993 10:21:11 -0800
From:         Rushdi Ariss <rariss@WX.GTEGSC.COM>
Subject: Re: Not a gis question, but . . .

        You may have a problem with the refresh rate on the monitor.  If the boa
rd is
 trying to refresh at 70 hz, but your monitor only accepts 67, then you'll
probably hear a whine.  Otherwise, you may have a loose component in your
monitor which is modulated by a high refresh rate.  The refresh rate is usually
determined by either the software requirements or the video board which you
are using.

        My suggestion:  If you can borrow another monitor, and the whine goes
away, have the monitor taken for service.  If it still occurs, check the
refresh requirements of the software vice what the video card supports.

        Good luck,

        Rushdi A. Ariss
        rariss@wx.gtegsc.com
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Date:         Mon, 4 Jan 1993 15:03:28 +0100
From:         Michael Wolf <wolf@SIESOFT.CO.UK>

Subject: Re: GPS-Stations
To: GIS-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 14:03:25 GMT
 Jan 4, 93 9:10 am
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Hi Bodo,

Du schreibst:

[...]
>
> Also Informations on using GPS for such application would help (For
> example: how can I know wich satellites will be available for the during
> of my work. How is it possible to calculate the position of each satellite at
> any time of a day?)

Nun, ich bin kein GPS-Spezialist, ich kenne das nur von der Theorie.
Aber vielleicht ist die folgende Information von einigem Nutzen fuer Euch.

Auf dem Geodaetentag in Haburg wurde ein Vortrag ueber "Das Deutsche
GPS-Informations und Beobachtungssystem (GIBS)" gehalten. Er ist im Sonderheft
September der "zfv Zeitschrift fuer Vermessungswesen" abgedruckt (Seite 556ff,
Author: Georg Weber, Frankfurt a. M.; Verlag: Konrad Wittwer GmbH Stuttgart).

Laut diesem Aufsatz ist das GIBS unter anderem ueber internet erreichbar.
Der GIBS-Rechner hat die internet-Nummer 141.74.240.25. Der dem GIBS-Rechner
vorgeschaltete Router die Nummer 188.1.132.180, das lokale Netzwerk, in dem
sich der GIBS-Rechner befindet, die Nummer 141.74.0.0.

Als Telefonnummer finde ich hier die 069/6333379. Das ganze befindet sich
bein Institut fuer Angewandte Geodaesie (IfAG).

Vielleicht hilft das weiter.


Viele Gruesse

Michael


Gruess mir Deutschland und Spanien. !Que te diviertas!

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