HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN GIM WEE)
Subject: NTU News server unable to accept post
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:10:36 GMT


Hi there, I am posting this on behalf of someone from NTU who mailed me
to request that I do this for him. Here goes:

[mail header and request text deleted]
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The NTU news server has been unable post for quite a while. Wonder why ?


Roland U.
sa2263263@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg


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EE Dept, NUS
internet: eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg
bitnet: eng20009@nusvm.bitnet
"What is true is true, and what is false is false." --- Snoopy
From: lim@merlion.CWRU.Edu (Hock Koon Lim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Internet Domain Survey
Date: 21 Jan 1993 22:33:40 GMT
Organization: Information Network Services, Case Western Reserve
Distribution: world
Reply-To: lim@po.CWRU.Edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: merlion.ins.cwru.edu



  Some infomation about Internet.  Singapore has 1365 hosts connected to
the Internet as January 93.  What if all the PCs on all campus networks
get an IP address with an entry in the Domain Name System?  My guess the 
number might be over 6000.

--- lim


Network Information Systems Center                             January 1993
SRI International                                    Internet Domain Survey


                Host Distribution by Top-Level Domain Name
                     and Percent Change since Jan 92

 410940 edu  69%    23581 ch  86%     3542 kr 136%     782 is   *    29 cy   *
 347486 com  92%    23197 jp 171%     3451 hk 684%     692 us 475%   17 my   *
  79772 gov  72%    20109 no  97%     2418 be 588%     610 hu   *    13 tn -52%
  67111 de  116%    16356 fi  36%     2053 nz  84%     349 cl   *    11 yu   *
  62327 mil 127%     9986 net 26%     1912 cs   *      121 lu   *     8 lv   *
  61429 au   94%     9052 at 172%     1910 br 536%     112 ve   *     5 th   *
  58431 uk  208%     7834 it 188%     1882 pt 141%     105 ar   *     5 gb   *
  52755 ca   95%     5911 es 256%     1663 pl   *       89 ee   *     4 aq   *
  31490 org  64%     5459 dk 204%     1365 sg 182%      79 in   *     3 cr   *
  26014 fr  100%     4356 za 368%     1330 ie 259%      63 su -67%    1 si   *
  25991 se   40%     4143 il 104%     1239 mx 339%      58 int n/a    1 bg   *
  25665 nl  101%     4021 tw 398%      860 gr 160%      45 ec   *
                           [* = over 1000%]

               Frequently Asked Questions about the Domain Survey

 Are all those hosts really on the Internet?
    You would have to ping them to find out.  If they each took 100
    milliseconds to reply to a ping, you could find out in only 37 hours.

 How many  users are on the Internet?
    Some people estimate around 10 per host (13 million people).
    If all of them were appropriately registered, the birthday-daemon
    would have to deliver 35,616 email messages each day.



 




-- 
Hock-Koon Lim, Information Network services
Case Western Reserve University; Cleveland, Ohio, USA  44106   
(216) 368-2982        lim@ins.cwru.edu
From: rlim@us.oracle.com (Richard Lim)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: info request
Keywords: SCO
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:10:01 GMT
Organization: Oracle Corporation
Originator: rlim@kr2seq.us.oracle.com
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by an unauthenticated user
              at Oracle Corporation.  The opinions expressed are those
              of the user and not necessarily those of Oracle.

Hi. I'm not really new to the net as I'm been following this news group
regularly since it's inception. I worked for Systems & Computer
Organization (SCO) from 1984 to 1987 and am wondering if they have
internet access and email addresses. Any info appreciated.

Thanx.

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Richard Lim                (rlim@us.oracle.com)                (415)506-6327
Oracle Corporation
500 Oracle Parkway
Box 659413
Redwood Shores, CA 94065
From: tchua@soda.berkeley.edu (Terence Chua)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Info needed on NTU Vax
Date: 22 Jan 93 03:38:00
Organization: QMW Department of Laws
	<1993Jan22.061759.21924@nuscc.nus.sg>
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg's message of Fri, 22 Jan 1993 06:17:59 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.061759.21924@nuscc.nus.sg> eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN GIM WEE) writes:

   Just do this: talk userid@vXXXX.ntu.ac.sg

   where XXXX is the node that the person is on, eg v9000, v9001 or v8803
   etc



That doesn't work either. What you get is an interminably long
"Checking for invitation on caller's machine" that never stops
checking. I agree that "finger @ntuvax@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg" - *Not*  to be
confused with with "finger @ntuvax.ntuix.ntu.ac.sg" which doesn't
work, gives me a user listing. But I can't "talk
user_id@ntuvax@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg because that returns with an unkown
host message.

Believe me, I've been trying out the possibilities. 

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: eng10005@nusunix1.nus.sg (CHIONH CHOON LEE)
Subject: Re: Neon Lights ***
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 04:02:15 GMT

Kelvin Cheu (cheu@venus.its.uci.edu) wrote:
: 
: Why don't we suggest to them to take out all the traffic lights
: as well. Plus street light...and car and bus head lights.......

 Great!!!!! Wonderful idea!!!!!

Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: tiakjung@xenon.iss.nus.sg (Chng Tiak Jung)
Subject: Re: HDB application requirements
Reply-To: tiakjung@iss.nus.sg
Organization: ISS Research
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:17:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.004804.28311@nuscc.nus.sg>, eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN GIM WEE) writes:
|> Chor Guan Teo (teo@cs.sfu.ca) wrote:
|> : Does anybody on the net knows about the HDB requirements for single
|> : person applications ??  How can a single person < 35 yrs old get a HDB
|> : flat from the open market ??
|> Are you sure that singles can qualify for HDB flats? :)

Are you sure that singles cannot qualify for HDB flats? :)
I have just checked up recently at HDB, but I don't have the info sheet at
hand. But basically, for male applicants, the age must be at least 35 years
old and female applicants, 21 years old. Furthermore, if I remember correctly,
they differentiate between unmarried singles and divorcer/widower/orphans.

-- 
Chng Tiak-Jung                               Internet: tiakjung@iss.nus.sg
Institute of Systems Science                           Phone: +65 772-6704
National University of Singapore                         FAX: +65 778-2571
Singapore 0511                       BITNET: ISSCTJ@NUSVM, CHNGTJ@NUSDISCS
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore,soc.culture.asean
From: eng10205@nusunix1.nus.sg (LING SIEW WEE)
Subject: Re: Neon Lights ***
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 18:01:35 GMT

Aik Siong Seow (seow@kraft.ecn.purdue.edu) wrote:
: Hey,
: 	I heard that the PWD is going to remove all the neon lights in
: Singapore so that they can promote a better "city-scape". Is that really
: true? Aw.....looks like I am going to miss these relics from the past...
: 
: ** Chris Seow **

What's new?? Chewing gum was banned to make a cleaner city, now neon
lights. Did those guys know that electricity can kill? I am doing
engineering in electrical and the government should protect me from 
being killed by the high voltage!  They should ban electricity for the
sake of mankind in S'pore. Such ridcule.

Wilfred Ling
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: seow@kraft.ecn.purdue.edu (Aik Siong Seow)
Subject: Inclusion of previus articles....
Organization: Purdue University Engineering Computer Network
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 20:06:35 GMT

Hi,
	I have noticed that some readers have posted their replies to certain
articles along with huge chunks of text from previous articles. Well, I guess
most other readers will really appreciate it if we can just filter out the
unwanted stuff whenever we post any articles along with previous ones. That can
really ease the pain of having to scroll through all the junk text.

** Chris Seow **
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: ivan@ntuix.ntu.ac.sg (Ivan Leong)
Subject: Re: Info needed on NTU Vax
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 17:04:51 GMT

Kwan Ping Chua (kwanping@leland.Stanford.EDU) wrote:

> 	Does anyone know how to use the talk command to talk to someone on the
> NTUVAX?It seems that the finger method given (@ntuvax.ntuix.ntu.ac.sg) cannot
> be used for the talk command as the message host unknown will come up.  I'm
> desparate to know how to talk to my friend in NTU..... Thanks a lot for any
> info> :)

ntuvax is the collective name for the V8802, V8803, V9000 and V9001.
ntuix is the DECstation with Ultrix.

Everyone in NTU has an account with the former while the latter houses
mainly staff.

Use    f @ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
       f @ntuix.ntu.ac.sg  _OR_  f @ntu.ac.sg

'il
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Fidonet:  6:600/500  (aka 600/510)     Miqas/2 [Singapore]
Internet: ivan@ntu.ac.sg  _OR_  bz7004742@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: kwanping@leland.Stanford.EDU (Kwan Ping Chua)
Subject: Re: Info needed on NTU Vax
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 93 01:14:30 GMT

	Does anyone know how to use the talk command to talk to someone on the
NTUVAX?  It seems that the finger method given (@ntuvax.ntuix.ntu.ac.sg) cannot
be used for the talk command as the message host unknown will come up.  I'm
desparate to know how to talk to my friend in NTU..... Thanks a lot for any
info> :)

							Cheers,
							       Kwan Ping

"In some things, you just have to go on faith."

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PO Box 4706				      Department of Economics	
Stanford, CA 94309	
USA					      Tel: (415) 497-3830

			Email: kwanping@leland.Stanford.EDU
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From: rchan@triton.unm.edu (raymund ken-guan chan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Ex-Patricians
Date: 21 Jan 1993 13:54:06 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
NNTP-Posting-Host: triton.unm.edu

To Cheng Yang and Mohan,

I was at St. Pat's from 1978-81 from 4S2. I'm now doing my M.S.here at
the University of New Mexico - a rather "ulu" place. Do remember the both 
of you. Stephen Png is no longer teaching but is a stock broker!!!

Regards and Happy Chinese New Year,
Raymund
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: teo@cs.sfu.ca (Chor Guan Teo)
Subject: HDB application requirements
Organization: CSS, Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 18:27:43 GMT

Hi,

Does anybody on the net knows about the HDB requirements for single
person applications ??  How can a single person < 35 yrs old get a HDB
flat from the open market ??

thanks
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: kevin@iti.gov.sg (Kevin Patt (SE))
Subject: Re: Where are the Patricians?
Organization: National Computer Board, Singapore
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 09:44:47 GMT

sbog6936@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bin Ong) writes:
>It sure is nice to see another ancient Patrician on the network...
>Was at St Pat's 1976-78, Pre-U.....
>are we still one of the few allowed to wear any kinda (or color)
>shoes to school, isntead of the boring all-white???

Well greetings from a fellow mission schools, I was from SJI, 1980-83.  
Seems like in those days, SJI, St Pat's, were the few allowed to wear
colored shoes( with the condition that white is the dominating color).

-Kevin.
 
-- 
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Associate Member of Technical Staff            Singapore 
Email: (Internet) kevin@iti.gov.sg             Tel: (65) 772-0471 
       (BITNet)   kevinpatt@itivax.bitnet      Fax: (65) 779-5966
From: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Subject: Re: Neon Lights ***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Reply-To: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 23 Jan 93 01:32:33 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.202424.12449@noose.ecn.purdue.edu>, seow@kraft.ecn.purdue.edu (Aik Siong Seow) writes:
|> Hey,
|> 	I heard that the PWD is going to remove all the neon lights in
|> Singapore so that they can promote a better "city-scape". Is that really
|> true? Aw.....looks like I am going to miss these relics from the past...
|> 
|> ** Chris Seow **

BORING....lets send those guys up there to Las Vegas for a while...might
as well forget about the C'mas light up and CNY deco.  Anothing for our
future generation of young lions to be "Sua Ku" about.  Hope this is 
not true.


Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: ipacs@solomon.technet.sg (IPACS PTE LTD)
Subject: Re: Memory chips in Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:17:08 GMT

chee kian koo (koo@cis.ohio-state.edu) wrote:
: In article <91q374#@rpi.edu> wuys@cs.rpi.edu (Yi-Shin Wu) writes:
: >
: >A fellow student asked me where in Singapore is a good place to
: >buy chips (not potato, but computer...specifically memory chips).
: >
: >Since I've left home for a few years, I thought I'd better 
: >check it out on the net. So if you know the answer, please
: >email or post on this news group.
: >
: >Thanks!
: >
: Funan Center is the computer mart. Most of the shops were closed
: for renovation last December when I was back home.

: Also you can try Sim Lim Tower, I know many poly guys try that
: place for chips.

: Hope this helps

: Kian

Hmm, my email bounced.  Anyway, try:

ZAC ELECTRONICS TRADING PTE LTD
1 Rochor Canal Road (Sim Lim SQUARE)
#05-03

Tel 339-7220, Fax 338-0515

I just got 41-256-70ns DRAM there for S$6 each.  I think that's about the going
rate.

Email me if u need more info.

PS- As usual, I have nothing to do with ZAC blah blah blah.
From: sa2263263@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg (ROLAND U)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Best views of the island?
Date: 27 Jan 93 10:01:00 GMT
Organization: Nanyang Technological University - Singapore
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1k5agdINNg3m@shelley.u.washington.edu>, cyberoid@stein.u.washington.edu (Robert Jacobson) writes...
> 
>I'm staying downtown.  If I can get out (via feet or public transpor-
>tation), what might be my best destinations to get a good feel for
>Singapore and the best visual outlooks?  Thanks.
> 
>Bob Jacobson
The usual tourist spots like Chinatown, Little India are pretty good bets. 
Orchard road area is a must for watching Singaporeans at their favourite
past time-shopping. A visit to a housing board is pretty informative too.
One good way to soak in the sights is to hop on a bus, say bus no. 2 fom
one terminal to the other. Get off at whatever stops you want, look around
and get on the next bus. Try it with the MRT-the local subway, as well.

Roland U.
sa2263263@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg
From: bumbles@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Wei Chi Lin)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: Gay People in Singapore? (Gasp!)
Date: 25 Jan 1993 16:06:21 -0500
Organization: Homewood Academic Computing, Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore, Md, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu


Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: isc20059@nusunix1.nus.sg (KOH YEN LING)
Subject: Re: Neon Lights ***
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 04:55:46 GMT

The ban is referring only to rooftop billboards, NOT neon lights in
general.  If you people want to criticise, at least get the facts
STRAIGHT.

Pathetic.


Alison

Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: eng10406@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN KAR GEE)
Subject: Re: romantic spots -- SUMMARY
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:01:20 GMT

ALL THE BEST!!!!!





Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 11:21:29 -0500 
From: Kuo Chiang <blurp+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Info needed on NTU Vax
	<1993Jan22.061759.21924@nuscc.nus.sg>
	<TCHUA.93Jan22033800@soda.berkeley.edu>

I've been using "talk <user-id>@ntuvax.ntu.ac.sg" and it works all the time.

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From: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Subject: Re: Neon Lights ***
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Reply-To: cheu@venus.its.uci.edu (Kelvin Cheu)
Organization: University of California, Irvine
Date: 25 Jan 93 17:17:20 GMT

About the high voltage stuff...the electricity supply nation wide
is in PUB's hand.  The only reason PWD is involved may be

(1) for those neon light within the vicinity of its road (roadside)
(2) for drive's safety (distraction)

Hong Kong is famous for its sign boards and nean lights, but I 
don't have the accident rate to make a comparison.  But if this
is the reason behind the ban, ammm... I will disagree.  I think that
Singaporean drivers are too protected...until some of my friends
who can't even cope with the traffic in Johor Bahru.

K
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: elltankw@nuscc.nus.sg (Tan Kok Wan Peter (Dr))
Subject: Re: Meaning of `Sekali'
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:54:39 GMT

isc20390@nusunix1.nus.sg (CHONG KAH YUEN) writes:

: I think the meaning of sekali is " Suddenly or all of a sudden if something
: totally unexpected happens and..".
: 
: Somewhere along those lines is the meaning. (I think, Sekali I wrong,
: very malu)
: 								John F Chong

Many thanks for all your responses.  Yes, I think it means more than
`once' or `if' as suggested by the earlier responses.  Maybe what we can
do is to come up with lots of examples of how YOU would use `sekali', and
see whether the gloss fits.  ...Or as they say, if the cap fits, wear it.
                                          Peter Tan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: ng@kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp (Ng Pek Yong)
Subject: Re: 1st non-S'porean but S'pore-bred ( I hope )
Reply-To: ng@kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp
Organization: Kyoto Univ. dept. of Info. Sci. Tsuda Lab.
Distribution: soc.culture.singapore
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:47:11 GMT


 >I have bad news for those who don't already know - the Coleman Street
 >ACPS is shutting down. They're moving to the Barker Road site when
 >they finish refurbishing that estate. I managed to get a last look at
 >ACPS last summer before I came back to London, so at least I've paid
 >my respects. 
 >
 >The Bukit Timah MGS will be coming up soon, replacing Mt. Sophia -
 >we're going to have two distinct zones of influence, one around Bt.
 >Timah and the other the Dover Road campus.
 >
 >--
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 >Terence Chua, Dept of Laws, Queen Mary College, University of London
 >Snail Mail: 22 Courcy Road, London N8 0QH
 >Telephone: (044)081-888-1210
 >E-Mail: T.Chua@qmw.ac.uk 
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 >"I am not a free man, I am a lawyer!"
 >
 >

 when are they actually coming down , both MGS and ACPS .
 like to take photos of them before they actually disappear .

--
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Ng Pek Yong   Email: ng@kutsuda.kuis.kyoto-u.ac.jp
From: blurp+@CMU.EDU (Kuo Chiang)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Re: romantic spots in Singapore
Date: 28 Jan 93 02:46:12 GMT
	<1993Jan27.110302.1408@nuscc.nus.sg>
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

How about Sungei Gedong Area D ?

8-) Just kidding.

Kuo Chiang
kc3s@cmu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: sbog6936@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Bin Ong)
Subject: Re: HDB application requirements
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 20:30:27 GMT

eng20009@nusunix1.nus.sg (TAN GIM WEE) writes:

>Chor Guan Teo (teo@cs.sfu.ca) wrote:
>: Hi,
>: 
>: Does anybody on the net knows about the HDB requirements for single
>: person applications ??  How can a single person < 35 yrs old get a HDB
>: flat from the open market ??
>: 
>: thanks
>Are you sure that singles can qualify for HDB flats? :)

I understand from some news reports that the HDB has lowered the age
requirement for singles purchasing flats (both from HDB and open-
market, I think; at least definitely from previous owners) from
40 yrs to 35 yrs..:-) gives some hope to those not married :-)
enjoying their singlehood, and not wishing their parents. Yes, the
HDB does allow singles to own their own flats...

Bin Ong
Univ of Illinois

>Tan Gim Wee
Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: eng10039@nusunix1.nus.sg (CHEW KOK CHOR)
Subject: Re: Lecturing Lecturers
Organization: National University of Singapore
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 04:14:43 GMT

	While we are at the subject of lousy lecturers and tutors, does
anyone in overseas universities care to tell us his side of the story
and what is/was done to remedy the situation ?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
From: yu@plains.NoDak.edu (A. Yu            )
Subject: Re: bicycle racing in Singapore (was Re: What's wrong with Singapore?)
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 16:58:43 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <C16vxC.JGB@hfglobe.intel.com> spng@hfglobe.intel.com (Seo Ng)
writes:
>anthony@cs.uq.oz.au (Anthony Lee) writes:
>
>>I was wondering if there are bicycle races in Singapore ?  Are
>>there places where one can train ?  Are bicycles popular in
>>Singapore ?
>
>	Singapore is definitely not a good place to train cycling.  I can
>still remember the time when I used to train at Loyang.  Someone from my
>camp actually ran into a truck parked by the roadside to make phone call and
>he was paralyzed.  Another guy had a collision with a bus and fractured his
>leg.  In general, most driver simply ignore cyclists.
>

Hi!
Is biking popular or not, I've little knowledge. I stay in town close by
Singapore River, and I find that the little side-walk by the river is the
perfect place for casual cycling. It is long, and stretches along Singapore
River, Marina Square, Kalang River, National Stadium, Marine Parade, etc.
It's the perfect cycling path! It allows you to see the old Singapore by the
River, the modern Singapore by Marina Square, the scenic Singapore by Marine
Parade. And if you ever felt thirsty, hungry, etc you can just stop by any
of the food centres to savour the delicious local specialities. You can also
enroute to Chinatown, Mohammad Salutan, etc. to see other local flavours. 

It maybe a long ride, by why not give it a try? Since parking, driving, and
even owning a car is so dear, it's the cheapest, healthiest, and most
enjoyable way to spend your weekend.

Well? Have fun!
ta-ta

Al...
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.singapore
Subject: Don't Read This
From: cvadrgkw@vmsb.is.csupomona.edu
Date: 25 Jan 93 11:33:24 PST
Organization: California State Polytechnic University, Pomona
Nntp-Posting-User: cvadrgkw

-- 
This is a test! Told you not to read this!
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