From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: Why you shouldn't buy Nestle
Date: 29 Sep 92 20:18:53 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA

>>The hospitals should fix the problem
>>(although they have a huge number of problems, like lots of abandoned
>>infants, that make free formula handouts a difficult thing to turn
>>down).  But I don't absolve Nestle for making the stuff; it's just
>>another "Just Say No" approach to the problem.
>>
>>cep@taligent.com (Christophe Pettus)

well, i can't start any better than saying that if 

> 6. 1.5 million babies die each year from unsafe bottle-feeding.
>
>daniel@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Daniel Bowen)

is true, then it's really one baby dying every twenty-one seconds,
not every thirty.  as long as we're gonna beat the drums and stir up
a lot of emotional thrashing, we might as well do the arithmetic properly.
(one dead baby every thirty seconds would result in "only" 1.05 million
dead babies per year.)

> 5. The water mixed with the formula is often contaminated. This leads to
> diarrhoea, malnutrition and often death. 

yo, christophe.  please re-read #5 above, and realize that any hospital
whose water is so contaminated has a much greater problem than free milk
vs. breast-feeding.  aren't _all_ the patients drinking that same deadly water?

> 7. Breast-feeding is free and safe and protects against infection - but
> companies know that unless they get babies on the bottle, they don't do
> business.

hmmm.  if b.f. is so free and safe and protects against infection,
i'm afraid i don't understand why a mother would go for the handout milk.
nor does this alternative help solve the problem mentioned by daniel
about abandonded babies, for whom there is not, and never will be, breast milk.

> **  BOYCOTT NESCAFE  **

this is a joke, right?  i'm supposed to give up most of the chocolate
and life-savers i eat so that Nescafe will stop doing something
of which i don't even believe they're guilty?  as if i'm going to call
australia for ghod's sake to check up on this.

if this really and truly is happening, it seems quite obvious to me
that the hospitals, not nescafe, are the ones who should be taking action:
DON'T USE THE FREE MILK.  and you, christophe, had better be careful with
those wild accusations about nescafe officials bribing hospital administrators
to continue a deadly practice.  do the words "slander" or "libel" ring a bell?
i would like to see statistics about how many of those babies would die anyway
(due to bad water, etc.), and also the figures on how many lives are actually
SAVED by the free milk.  i suspect that someone ran some cost/benefit analyses
and discovered that more babies would be helped than harmed by the nescafe
assistance.

you people are so damn paranoid that you're willing to believe _anything_.
someone tries to help out DYING BABIES and you instantly assume that it
is merely a conspiracy to addict the infants to the product.  as someone
pointed out in another post, this is not much of a market once you consider
the longevity, the non-affordability, and the greater cost of bringing the
product to that market.  besides, daniel's point was that the mothers
can't afford to buy it anyway!!  are we supposed to believe that nescafe
is not only evil, but really really stupid?

give this one up as failed logic, and start looking for the next conspiracy ---
i'm sure another will be along shortly.

ok
dpm
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              When every one is dead the Great Game is finished.  Not before.
                              --- Hurree Babu, "Kim"
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murphy@npri6.npri.com 602 Cameron St. Alexandria, VA 22314 (703) 683-9090

              When every one is dead the Great Game is finished.  Not before.
                              --- Hurree Babu, "Kim"
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