Newsgroups: rec.games.mud.tiny
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 05:37:03 -0500 
From: Edwin Huang <eh1s+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Essay Time for Felix (Was: Re: God Conference on Player's Rights)

Excerpts from netnews.rec.games.mud.tiny: 25-Jan-93 Re: Essay Time for
Felix  (.. by jim miller@ais.org 
> mwilson@csugrad.cs.vt.edu (Zaphod Beeblebrox) writes:
> >In article <C1A2py.4ou@ais.org> jgm@ais.org (jim miller) writes:
> >>1.  Explain the substantive difference between the elusive "it"
> >>    the blacks in South Africa don't have, and the lofty, muddle-
> >>    headed "rights" that Ken and I go on about but in which there's
> >>    no point because it's just a silly abstraction unless there's
> >>    someone with a sharp stick present to dole them out.  In
> >Substantive Difference:  You get annoyed by your lack of rights on a MU*,
> >you turn the power off and go to Burger King.  Where's the power switch
> >for Aparthied?
>  
> Apartheid.  This kind of argument gets you nowhere.  If you get
> annoyed by sexual harassment at work, you turn in your resignation
> and go work somewhere else, because you can, right?  Or maybe
> pursue another field of interest.  That country club that won't
> let you join because you're black, you just drop golf and get a
> different hobby, right?
Let's take Jim's analogies further. You are offended at the portrayal of
women by a certain author, you don't read his books, right? You don't
like mail from Ed McMahon so you throw the letters into the garbage,
correct? You believe in Gun Control so you don't subscribe to Guns and
Ammo and instead subscribe to Bride magazine correct?

Damn Straight I do and I would.

> I was asking Felix a specific question -- what is the significant
> difference between that kind of moral reasoning Felix uses to arrive
> at the conclusion apartheid is a bad thing, and the kind other
> people use to arrive at the despised conclusion that, say, spying
> on someone on a mud is a bad thing.  He refuses to admit that he
> uses exactly the same sort of moralistic reasoning I and everyone
> else does, because it would mean recanting a lot of earlier
> posturing.

I believe Felix is saying you are a complete idiot. I quite agree. In
other words, I believe aparthied is a bad thing. I believe that mud
logging is such an insignificant topic that only people like Jim Miller
and Ken Aromdee would spend so much time and bandwidth obsessing over
it. Dust is a bad thing for computers. People who let dust collect on
their computers are morally warped cause they live in filth and squalor.
After all, Cleanliness is next to Godliness. The moral concerns are NOT
the same. If you weren't so limp brained maybe you can see that.

> >It's amazing the conversations that go on here.  I wish several of you would
> >go put a paper clip in the electrical socket.  If you live through, maybe
> >you'll be able to tell the difference between Real Life (Burger Kings) and
> >Virtual Reality (I'm sure somebody's MU* has a Burger King, but I doubt
> >you'll actually taste it.)
>  
>  
> I wish you would stop taking quick and easy jabs at a discussion
> because dumb ridicule like the above can be written with little
> thought.

Actually, I believe Jim Miller has had intimate experiences with Burger
King. But he doesn't work there anymore, do you Jim? What happened were
you fired or something? Something about all patties deserved to choose
between flame broiling and frying? People have a right to know how fresh
the french fries are?

I was so hoping for jgm@burger.king.com too.

Pity.

-dirque.
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