From: TREP@cup.portal.com (Tom Obie Obringer)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.graphics,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: No AGA for current users!?! *Excuse Me?*
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 16:29:08 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)

>This AGA chipset incompatibility thing wouldn't piss me off nearly so much if
>they had introduced DIG/RTG/whatever the hell they choose to call it FIRST.
>Commodore would be nowhere without the existing userbase, couldn't they have the
>decency to look out for us first, before introducing something that makes our
>machines obsolete?
>I have faith that some brilliant third party developer will find a way to
>incorporate the new chips, I remember people telling me that my a1000 could
>never be upgraded, that the 2000 was dead when the 3000 appeared.  And you know,
>they were wrong.  This new development just isn't going to get me to buy an
>a4000, unless Commodore offers a REAL upgrade deal, something that isn't going
>to cost me my life savings.

First off I don't get this emotional over what CBM does or doesn't do.  They
are just another company trying to make a buck.
After pondering all the new announcements of the last two days, I too would
have to agree that lack of RTG is my biggest disappointment.  I'm not really
surprised the AGA chips won't retrofit into the 3000, even though I thought
they would have at least done a ZorroIII or CPU Slot AGA board, but it doesn't
appear they are going to.  If RTG was available I wouldn't' think twice about
keeping my 3000, but with RTG still a ways off it looks like the 4000 is the
only realistic choice if I want better graphics.  I do think CBM will offer
a power up solution, but those deals are never quite as good as they appear,
but it is better than nothing.

>What I don't understand in all of this is howcome there can't be some sort of
>motherboard replacement?  I'm no engineer, so there's probably a very simple
>reason that i just don't get, but couldn't it be done?
>And with all those slots, you'd think they could mount the chips and a new
>bandwidth thingy and make it all work.

Technically I don't see how they could do it on the 500/2000, unless they did
something like GVP (ie. put it on an 32bit accelerator).   I think it could be
done on the 3000, but I don't believe theres a big enough 3000 user base to
make it worth their while, at least in CBMs mind.  I think theres a good chance
a 3rd party solution will appear.

>And more to the point, there just HAS to be a way they could have developed a
>gizmo that would plug into the RGB port like a DCTV, HAME, Colorburst, Opalvision?
>That would have served the same graphics purposes.  I mean let's face it, if
>all these different third party people can do it, it can obviously be done.
>So much for Gold Service, eh?

I think I'm missing something here, why should CBM produce something that already
exists in the 3rd party world?   RTG is the answer not some Kludge box.

>Time to stop buying Commodore products, i think, unless they get their act
>together and start treating their userbase decently.
>                                Charley

Well I guess CBM should never come out with new technology and if they do they
should upgrade their existing userbase for free.  Personally I know of no other
computer company that treats their user base as well as CBM.  CBM bends over
backwards in OS compatibility and hardware power up deals.

					TREP@cup.portal.com
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