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From: gong@cbnewsc.cb.att.com (jiechen.james.gong)
Subject: Volvo Questions
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 05:09:58 GMT
Followup-To: poster
Keywords: 740/Turbo

I just brought a '87 740/turbo wagen.  It has only 38000 miles on it.
Can someone help me on following questions:

1) I am thinking to change transmission fluid myself.  The owner
   manual says that "Dexron IID" should be used.  But I just could not
   find it.  Can I use "Dexron IIE" instead?   What is the difference
   between two fluids?

2) How long it take to do 0-60mph?

3) The car can get 20.5 mpg (auto transmission) on freeway and city
   combination.  Is that normal?

4) What is the factory recommanded rear axial fluid change schedule?

5) Any one has the experience using platimun spark plug in this
   engine?  (Platimunm plug recommanded by Bocsh does not work on
   my 190E/2.3.  It build up a lots of carbon on the plug.

6) I like to have the third row of seat installed.  Is that
   possible to get a used one?  Where to get the discount parts?

7) Is the check valve insdie Volvo oil filter that important
   like what Volvo owner manual says?

Thanks,
James
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: issa@cwis.unomaha.edu (Issa El-Hazin)
Subject: Re: Theft/vandalism (was: cutaway Saturn)
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 07:12:20 GMT

phr@telebit.com (Paul Rubin) writes:

>    The point is that one could probably vandalize a Saturn for parts with
>    the same degree of ease that could be applied to most other cars - or 
>    lack of ease for that matter.  If you're a professional car thief,
>    and really want a vehicle, NOTHING will protect it.

>Gack.  Somebody stole the front grille from my 83 Nissan Sentra
>a week or so ago.  Left the mounting screws sitting on the front
>bumper.  I have no idea what s/he wanted with the grille.  First
>thing I thought when I saw the grille missing was that the battery
>had been stolen (it hadn't).  Takes all kinds.

My next door neighbor tells me that somebody one day stole his trany out
of his Jeep. His Jeep was an older model [1976?] and was the kind that is
high off the ground. The theft was done over night in a [fancy?] and quite
complex parking lot. His [and my] appartment were about 20 feet from where
the Jeep was parked. To replace the trany, he told me, Dodge quoted him 
[if memory serves me right] ~$1300. 
I'd say, somebody had some big balls steeling a trany from an auto parked
in a populated area. I have 2 cars that were broken into a total of 5-6
times in a 2 year period in that complex. The thieves usually break a side 
window [or a door lock], get in, and take what-ever they can get their hands
on in few seconds [Camera, a day old $250 fuzz-buster, stereo knops, bra...], 
and then take off. Another neighbor told me that he found a punch of tools in 
his front seat one morning that didn't belong to him. He thinks that somebody 
broke into his car but was forced to take off in a hurry. 
I guess that complex was a targeted area for teenager thieves.
I've moved from that area about a year ago and no problems since. Knock on wood.

:)

issa

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: troyf@microware.com (Troy Frericks)
Subject: Re: Car bras
Organization: Microware Systems Corp., Des Moines, Iowa
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 19:23:57 GMT

In article <92357.110207SROWELL@ESOC.BITNET> <SROWELL@ESOC.BITNET> writes:
>The US seems to be the only country in the world that uses these 'Car
>Bras' (correct me if I'm wrong). Whenever I see a car with one of these
>vinyl sheets strapped to the bonnet, it's often one of those cars that
>have those parking sensor probes sticking out of it, the hifi blaring out
>through heavily tinted windows and driving conspicuously slowly so everyone
>can notice 'the wheels'.The owner probably still has the polythene wrappers
>on the front car seats!
>
>No, Car Bras are very silly and if you don't tailgate (as has already been
                                              ^^^^^^^^
>pointed out by some sensible gentleman)you are very unlikely to need one.
>
>Save your money and buy a small pot of touch-up paint...
>
>Simon

Where do you drive?  

Don't tailgate?  What about the jerk who pulls in front of you, about
3 feet a head while completing a pass.

Bra's reduce the range of lidar.  Head light covers, reduce the range
even further.

There is a radar absorbing bra that is available which will reduce the
effective range of traffic radar by about 1/3.

They do reduce rock chips.
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: pacyga@rtsg.mot.com (Jim Pacyga)
Subject: Re: SHO shopping: 92 or 93?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 22:29:06 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.172519.10022@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> rothberg@Xenon.Stanford.EDU (Edward Rothberg) writes:
>
>I've decided to buy a Taurus SHO.  For a variety of reasons, I would
>ideally want to buy it sometime in late January.  If I were to buy it
>now, it would have to sit in my apartment parking lot for a month.
>Right now, dealers in the area still have a small number of 92 SHOs.
>I'm convinced that they won't be around in late January.  The dealers
>swear up and down that they will sell the 92 leftovers for thousands
>less than the 93s (I was quoted 17.5K for a 211A 92 SHO, and "at least
>20" for a 93).  My question is, can anyone predict whether their
>stories will be the same once the 92s are gone and all they've got to
>sell are 93s?  Does anyone know anything about what dealer incentives
>are in place for the 92s, whether they apply to the 93s as well, and
>when they expire?  Has anyone gotten a quote of anywhere near 17.5K
>for a 93 (or better for a 92)?
>
>I should note that I plan to keep the car forever, so a 93 label isn't
>worth any more to me than a 92 label.
>
>Ed Rothberg
>rothberg@cs.stanford.edu
>

Ed,

  As far as I know the only official incentive is on the '92 which is $1000
+ 5% of list or $2000 for demos.  I was also quoted a low price for a 92 
loaded SHO and they said they would deal on a '93.  The salesman told me
flat out that he would "do anything to get the '92s of the lot".  

  Out of curiosity, was the '93 that he was talking about as loaded as the '92?

  The only difference I have seen in the 92 to 93 year is the spoiler and
the different exhaust styling.     

Jim Pacyga
90 SHO

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: sheriffp@Software.Mitel.COM (Peter Sheriff)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Removing Tyre Rubber from Driveway
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:00:31 GMT
Organization: Mitel. Kanata (Ontario). Canada.

In article <1992Dec14.021252.12933@cc.uow.edu.au> cathy@cc.uow.edu.au (Cathy Nicastri) writes:
>Does anyone know how to remove tyre rubber from driveway
>
>
>Thanks
>
>Cathy@wampyr.uow.edu.au

    Yes, move your car :-)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: cbh@windsurf.scd.ucar.edu (Cris Hannu)
Subject: Re: Anti-Lock Brakes makes stopping SAFER?
Organization: NCAR/UCAR
Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:24:05 GMT

In article <1haiiaINNanq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, ce423@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Josh Lackey III) writes:
> 
> 
> I've yet to drive a car with ABS. I've lost control of my
> car once, and have nearly lost control several times since. 99% of my
> close calls were on wet or drenched pavement. In every near loss of control
> incident I can remember, the braking system was not a factor.
> All of my close calls were at highway speeds and resulted from
> hydroplaning. Dont think ABS can be effective during 
> hydroplaning conditions?
> 
Bingo!

> I'm wondering what the consensus
> is for ABS users as to the usefulness and added safety they feel
> the system provides? Please include specific examples where you
> feel the ABS provided you with an extra margin or safety!
> 
I don't know about "safer", but they're certainly "different".  I know the old
theory about pumping the brakes doesn't seem to apply anymore.  I've found
you're better off just mashing 'em down and let the ABS do its' job because
you never know exactly when the ABS is going to cut in while you are trying
to effect braking by pumping the pedal.
I was driving around some side streets with patchy ice, most of the ice being
on the right side of the road, and every once in a while when I'd touch the 
brakes the right side ABS would kick in (it's not like I was really trying to
lock up them wheels either, but I guess the ABS is sensing *any* slippage).

>   Some ABS systems now incorporate traction control, but my
> perception is that ABS for the most part only provides added
> margins of safety during emergency braking conditions. 
> 
I agree.  I'd rather not have it on dry/normal road conditions though.

>    One last question:  Are all ABS systems designed to monitor 
> all four wheels on the car, or are some only active in front?
> 
Can't help you out there, but I *think* that the latter is may be the case.

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
From: KAPLAN@YaleADS.CIS.Yale.Edu
Subject: Re: Avanti
Organization: Yale University
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 92 11:39:17 EST

In article <msinerka.724666479@vipunen.hut.fi>
msinerka@lesti.hut.fi (Marko Sinerkari) writes:
 
>
>In <168BFDA2B.KAPLAN@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu> KAPLAN@YaleVM.YCC.Yale.Edu writes:
>
>	I recall the R3 with twin superchargers putting out some 550 HP.
>	Is this true?
>
>	
>			.Marco
>
 
Basically, it is hard to tell.  There were factory claims - and, remember,
that was the era of SAE gross hp. Also, since there were so few, none was
tested by any independent organization.  Lastly there was Andy Granatelli's
version that was tweaked beyond all recognition for the Bonneville Land
Speed records in various classes.  A recent article in "Avanti", the AOAI
magazine, was about the recent attempts at Bonneville to surpass 200 mph
in a nominally Stude powered Avanti - they reached 187 mph on a difficult
surface.  The author said that there was a rule of thumb that 600hp was
needed to push an Avanti past 200mph on the salt.  So, since Granatelli
nearly reached it too, you can guess that his car was somewhere in the 550
ballpark.   I can tell you that in an Avanti with a standard drive train,
weight distribution and suspension, there would be no way to get 550 hp
to the ground.  If I am not careful applying the gas pedal, my Avanti will
leave about $20 worth of rubber on the pavement - not my idea of fun since I
was 16 years old.  My car has perhaps 1/3 the power of the lakester.
 
                     Cheers,
                            Reid Kaplan
From: rck@fangio.asd.sgi.com (Robert Keller)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Thelma & Louise
Date: 22 Dec 1992 15:54:03 -0800
Organization: Silicon Graphics, Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: fangio.asd.sgi.com

george@mech.seas.upenn.edu writes:
>any ferarri aficionados know the story of ferris buehlers car?  
>I kind of suspect that they use a replica car throught the movie,

I guess I'll bite...

The whole rear end of that "ferrari" screamed MGB.  Other clues that 
it was an MGB include the layout of the dash and the Smiths gauges 
(in the odometer scene).  Not to mention the windscreen, ... and, ...

...robert
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
From: whs70@dancer.cc.bellcore.com (sohl,william h)
Subject: Re: Amphicar Questions
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 92 17:33:47 GMT

In article <1992Dec21.161452.25633@wam.umd.edu> buffalo@wam.umd.edu (Duncan D. Sterling) writes:
>I have some questions about a car I believe was available in the US for
>several years during the 1960's.
>
>The car, known as an Amphicar looked like a small English sportscar, but
>was German made.  It had two small propellers under the rear bumper, and
>was capable of functioning as a boat.
>
>I would be interested in hearing anything about this car: years made,
>behavior, utility, performance, etc.
>Duncan Sterling          buffalo@wam.umd.edu   GT750L, KH500A8, CA175K3

The amphicar was made in Germany I think and was powered by a Triumph
Herald engine.  Yes, it did function as a boat.  Performance was nothing
to speak of, especially as a boat.  I've seen one or two, but there aren't
many around these days.  I think there's a club of some sort, but I have no
details.  You might try contacting Hemmings Motor News and/or Old
Cars Weekly for the possibility of a club address.

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Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
From: tabg2553@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Thomas A. Brunner)
Subject: 2CV For Sale
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 02:13:03 GMT

Since there was some discussion about 2CVs in the past weeks, and
some inquired about purchasing one.  While home over Christmas, I saw
a 2CV for sale. I do not know the phone number that was on the car,
but if you are interested, it is parked (and is currently or was owned)
by BOVA Scandanivian Furniture on Beechmont Avenue in Cincinnati, OH.
I am sure if you call them (call information area code 513), they can
help you out.

Or if you are really interested, I can try to track down more information
for you (although I would prefer not to).

Thomas Brunner
tabg2553@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu

I think it was for sale at Thanksgiving, so either they want many $$$, or
there is not much local interest in the car.
From: robie@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie; POSI (GRAD))
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Re: Is this a Model A?
Date: 2 Jan 1993 06:10:11 GMT
Organization: Univ. of MD, Baltimore County
Distribution: na
NNTP-Posting-Host: umbc4.umbc.edu

In article <1992Dec31.122319.25423@cbnews.cb.att.com> adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:
>
>you're right about the year -- approximately...  it could be early
>'20s, i think.  *definitely* not an A, as they appeared in '28; not a
>T either [too low-slung].  note the car is *right* hand drive!  makes
>me think of early rolls-royces, but i doubt it's anything that fancy.
>it does have the ghost's coffin nose, though...

Don't put too much emphasis on the fact that the car *appears* to be a 
right-hand drive model.  After all, all it takes to change a left-hand to
a right-hand model in an early photograph was for the person in the photo
lab to be a little careless and have the negative upside down.  I've run
across this problem fairly regularly.
From: jonathan@vinnie.cuc.ab.ca (Jonathan Levine)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: Heater control cable question
Date: 23 Dec 92 15:16:19 GMT

I'm working on my 1964 Rambler Classic, and need to replace a heater control
cable -- the one that goes through the firewall to the valve regulating
water flow into the heater core.  The wire (steel) is intact, still with
loops on both ends, but the semi-rigid jacket is fragmented at one end,
and thus can't be anchored properly.  I'd prefer not to get one from
the wreckers, as plastics such as that used in the jacket age badly and
I'm sure it would break again.  Does anyone know of a source for these
things?

thx.


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Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
From: knight@netcom.com (John Knight)
Subject: Wanted: Jag XKE interior trim piece
Summary: looking for xke parts
Keywords: jag xke trim
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 01:35:26 GMT

I'm looking for a chrome plated plastic(?) trim piece to go around 
the base of the gear shift on my 1967 Jaguar XKE.  I've contacted
several of the places listed in Hemmings Motor News, but to no 
avail.  I've been looking on and off for years.

If anyone out there in netland has any information or suggestions,
please let me know.  Thanks in advance.

-knight <knight@netcom.com>

Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
From: ed@Tekelec.gecko.uucp (Ed Campbell)
Subject: Thelma & Louise
Originator: ed@rover
Organization: Tekelec Inc
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 17:42:10 GMT

    This reminds me of a movie made in the late '50s or earley '60s
about the "road" races they used to hold on abandoned military air
fields. A 56 'vette slid into sone haybales, then turned into a '48
Olds as it rolled. The movie industry would rather use trickery and
technology than money. The chances are that the car shown flying
through the air was nowhere near a cliff and is still in good condition.

BTW, Is anyone familiar with the Crosly sports cars? (Not the Brittish
Crossley) I would like to know what the difference is between the Super
Sport and the Hot Shot.


Ed Campbell
     Email ed@Tekelec.com (maybe) 

'57 FL
'76 XLCH
My other car is a '54 Harley Servicar.


Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
From: shaffer@achilles.ctd.anl.gov (Michael A. Shaffer)
Subject: Ford Automatics
Organization: Argonne National Laboratory
Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 18:48:18 GMT


This is an easy question I imagine.

When did Ford switch from 2sp automatics to 3sp automatics and in
which models?

				mike
From: farber_r@spcvxb.spc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: '55 Chevy Belair Wagon FOR SALE
Date: 4 Jan 93 00:13:53 GMT
Organization: St. Peter's College, US

55 Chevy Belair -4 dr. wagon for sale!!
Great condition,$3950.Reply this list.
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
From: bill@bilver.uucp (Bill Vermillion)
Subject: Re: Is this a Model A?
Organization: W. J. Vermillion - Winter Park, FL
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 19:29:00 GMT

In article <1i3bk3INNoco@news.umbc.edu> robie@umbc4.umbc.edu (Mr. William Robie; POSI (GRAD)) writes:
>In article <1992Dec31.122319.25423@cbnews.cb.att.com> adh@cbnews.cb.att.com (andrew.d.hay) writes:

>>you're right about the year -- approximately...  it could be early
>>'20s, i think.  *definitely* not an A, as they appeared in '28; not a
>>T either [too low-slung].  note the car is *right* hand drive!  makes
>>me think of early rolls-royces, but i doubt it's anything that fancy.
>>it does have the ghost's coffin nose, though...

>Don't put too much emphasis on the fact that the car *appears* to be a 
>right-hand drive model.  After all, all it takes to change a left-hand to
>a right-hand model in an early photograph was for the person in the photo
>lab to be a little careless and have the negative upside down.  I've run
>across this problem fairly regularly.

And it even happens today.  Just recently scanning by some channels on
the TV, I saw a person hop in the right side door of a pickup, and
drive off, with the tailgate prominently showing the name ATOYOT !!



-- 
Bill Vermillion - bill@bilver.oau.org  bill@bilver.uucp
                - ..!{peora|tous|tarpit}!bilver!bill
From: jdecola@uptown.East.Sun.COM (Joe Decola)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: 1970 Le Sabre
Date: 21 Dec 1992 19:33:41 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
Distribution: world
Reply-To: jdecola@uptown.East.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: darkwing.east.sun.com
Keywords: convertable

for sale 1970 buick le sabre,conv,ac,350 4/bbl, 54,000 orig miles,red w/white leather int,white top w/boot, 95% original.  car is in showroom cond.garaged daily.can be seen by appt only.appraised at  $8,600.00. have appraisel and title.
    asking $7,800.00  or trade of equal value.



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	Eastern Solution Center		phone #  508-794-5320
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
From: vancleef@netcom.com (Henry van Cleef)
Subject: Re: Ford Automatics
Organization: Netcom--posted from Andover, Mass.
Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 03:44:43 GMT

In article <1992Dec23.184818.26408@mcs.anl.gov> shaffer@achilles.ctd.anl.gov (Michael A. Shaffer) writes:
>
>This is an easy question I imagine.
>
>When did Ford switch from 2sp automatics to 3sp automatics and in
>which models?
>
Not really an "easy question."  Ford's first automatics (not counting
the purchased GM hydramatics used in Lincoln 1949-54) were Borg-Warner
3-speeds on Ford and Mercury '51.  They started in 2nd in "Drive"
range, 1st in "Low".  1955-57 models would kick down to 1st on full
throttle standing start.  1958 and later had two "Drive " ranges with a
sprag clutch to allow a smooth shift to 2nd or start-i-2nd.  These were
built into the 70's with various valve body setups; all had a cast iron
case.  Same transmission was used on Rambler.  Genuin 2-speed (aluminum
case) was first used in 1959.  Later C6 and C4 transmissions (60s and
later) were aluminum case 3 speeds with the same drive train components
as Mopar aluminum case transmissions.  

-- 
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Unix systems consultant---kernel, device drivers, networking, X11
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Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
From: bollman@zap.wrc.xerox.com (Jim Bollman)
Subject: Re: Crosley Hot Shot & Super Sports
Reply-To: bollman.wbst128@Xerox.com
Organization: Xerox Webster Research Center
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:08:06 GMT


The Super Sports was the deluxe version of the Hot Shot.  The Hot Shot
came out in mid 1949.  The Super Sports first came out in 1950 and was
nearly identical to the HS accept for red fake leather/plastic trim
around the passenger compartment instead of black rubber and it had a
folding top instead of one that you disassembled.

In 1951 and 1952 the SS had full hinged doors where the HS continued
with step over cut down sides, and possibly optional short doors that
lifted off for sporty driving.

The SS had an optional 10:1 compression QuickSilver engine that had an
alcohol injection system on the carb so you could still run on regular
gas.

The HS and SS had full leaf front suspension and coil with stabilizer
half springs on the rear.  The engine actually set back enough to be
behind the front axle and gave very good balance.  The combination made
for a car that stuck very well in clean dry corners and would rather
flip than slide, so you had to know its limits.

All Crosleys from mid 49 till mid 50 had 4 wheel disc brakes but were
ahead of the time as salt caused all kinds of problems and they went to
9 inch drum brakes in mid 1950.

Jim...
From: ajm9230@hertz.njit.edu (Anthony J. Messina)
Newsgroups: rec.autos.antique
Subject: 1966 Pontiac Tempest Custom
Summary: Should I keep it?
Date: 1 Jan 93 03:56:11 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: New Jersey Institute of Technology, Newark, N.J.

I've had this car for a year and a half now...I like it, but is it worth
holding onto? The only option it has is power steering. It no longer has
the original OHC six either. It is a 2-DR sport coupe. Bench seat. No
A/C, manual brakes(Yes! Believe it or not!), and not even hazard lights.
It has been recently painted and the body had a once over done, but it
didn't come out as nice as I expected...too bad the body shop guy
skipped town on me. :( It also has some serious leaks on the front
windshield...I've been looking into getting that sealed. All the auto
glass places I've talked to say that there would no doubt be a LOT of
rust that would have to repaired so I'd be better off letting a body
shop handle it, plus there is the chance that the windshield would break
when being taken out. Is it worth going through all this? Or should I
just sell it and let someone with more money restore/hot-rod/customize
it? I'm really confused as to what to do and would appreciate any
comments on this. They can be sent to: ajm9230@hertz.njit.edu

Thanks and hope you holidays were great!

Anthony