HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: WGLP09@SLACVM.SLAC.STANFORD.EDU
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Softcopy manual for VLT 5.517 wanted
Date: 8 Oct 92 21:02:55 GMT
 <19921008.091213.513@almaden.ibm.com>
Organization: Stanford Linear Accelerator Center

The TeX source for the VLT manual is not available. I'm not going to get
into the why's and how's yet again...

       Willy.
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Willy Langeveld - Bitnet: WGLP09 @ SLACVM - BIX: langeveld
From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Baudbandit.device?
Date: 14 Oct 92 18:35:57 PST
Organization: BBS

> The point was that BaudBandit.device makes gains over serial.device
> by sacrificing features.  Some people don't need those features,
> some do.  It's not for everyone.
 
The question is not just a matter of features, but of dependability.
For too many of us, there are times that come up when
baudbandit.device just doesn't quite behave in a reliable way, which
the C= driver always does.
From: Adam_Sjoegren@thesystem.bbs.bad.se (Adam Sjoegren)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: good term program?
Date: 13 Oct 92 12:43:51 GMT
Reply-To: Adam_Sjoegren@thesystem.bbs.bad.se (Adam Sjoegren)
Organization: The system, Frederiksberg Copenhagen, Denmark
OD-Comment-To: William_M._Perkins


William M. Perkins writes:

 > Than use the VLTjr version that does not have the Tektronix
 > graphics code. It should work okey in small memory machines and
 > still supports a good vt100 emulation.

How do you make VLT recognize FF (0x0c) as a ClearScreen? Is it some
switch somewhere, or what? Most of the BBS's in my area use FF for
ClearScreen.

I've only just started playing with VLT, and havent ordered the manual
yet.

                                      .
                                     -*-
  Adam_Sjoegren@thesystem.bbs.bad.se   \O_  BBS    +45-31-354775
  Copenhagen, Denmark                   |   ANet betatester
  GCChost support DK                   / \  FidoNet    2:230/149
---
From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: QWK off-line message reader for Amiga?
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:50:09 PST
Organization: BBS

> Um, MV or Q-Blue is in limbo/rewrite?  I assume you mean MV.
 
Yep
 
> I know of a few things that needed fixed on MV back when I
> registered it (not to brag, but ahem serial # R00001 :)
 
I believe my number is R010.
 
> Hm, I think version 115 is out there, too.  MV that is.
 
Huh ... haven't seen it, and 1.12 and 1.13 were quite widespread.
From: vidiot@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Rankin Eric)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Cnet
Date: 16 Oct 92 20:40:59 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

gwalter@gwalter.demon.co.uk (Graham Walter) writes:

> In article <yiFksB1w165w@dogbox.acme.gen.nz> dave@dogbox.acme.gen.nz writes:
> > Can someone please provide me with the following details:
> > 
> > 1: Latest version of CNet Amiga
> > 2: Current cost of this package
> > 3: Postage address for the company
> > 4: Email address for the company
> > 5: Credit card orderline (voice line) (with time zone differences to GMT)
> > 
> 
> I'm afraid that CNet (Compunet) has gone out of business. I can provide
> you with the latest version of the s/w for free if you still want it (sigh)
> 
> Cheers Graham
> 
> --
> gwalter@gwalter.demon.co.uk    |  If our brains were simple enough to
> gwalter@cix.compulink.co.uk    |  understand, we wouldn't be able to.

C-Net is not Compunet...CNet is C-Net Amiga BBS, it is still VERY much in 
business...here's the info I have (I hope its up-to-date).

Latest verion v2.30 (probably SLIGHTLY newer now)

by Perspecitve Software
phone (313) 981-4113

As I can't find my manual right now :-) I don't have the address.  There 
are also 3 BBS support numbers...I have 2 of them handy:

(313) 981-1524 (2400 baud)
(313) 981-6150 (14,400 baud HST)

He also had a V.32bis line, but I think the modem may be in the shop, I 
read that somewhere anyway).

If someone has an address, could you please post it.

Eric
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:6769 comp.sys.amiga.applications:7729
From: tcarter@53iss4.Waterloo.NCR.COM (Tom Carter)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Baud Bandit BBS
Keywords: Help Please!
Date: 7 Oct 92 12:19:52 GMT
Organization: Imaging Systems Division, NCR Corp, Waterloo, Ont., CANADA

I recently obtained BBBBs.Lzh from a Fred Fish disk and with this file, am
considering running a small BBS. But, (there is always a "but", isn't there) I
am having some difficulty getting it working. In the .doc file there are a
couple of references to the term prog Baud Bandit. Do I also need BAUD Bandit
to run BBBBS? Any advice from "seasoned" BBBBS sysops/users/experts would be
greatfully accepted. E-mail preferred if possible so we don't waste bandwidth.

Sorry if I have posted to the incorrect group.

Thanx.....
--
Tom Carter
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:6741 comp.sys.amiga.hardware:16580
From: gregm@cbmvax.commodore.com (Greg Miller - Amiga Networking)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.hardware
Subject: Re: scsi to ethernet?
Date: 7 Oct 92 13:51:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: cbmvax.35630
Reply-To: gregm@cbmvax.commodore.com (Greg Miller - Amiga Networking)
Organization: Commodore, West Chester, PA

In article <BvpxFv.1HL@acsu.buffalo.edu> jcmurphy@acsu.buffalo.edu (Jeff Murphy) writes:
>
>       Just wondering: can the amiga use something like Asante's
>scsi to ethernet adapter (with a driver o'course)? has anyone considered
>trying this out?
>
>smurfo
>
>--

 Although I'm not familar with the hardware in question, it -should- be
 simply a matter of writing a SANA-II driver for it.

 - Greg

-- 
Greg Miller                     "Violence never settles anything."
Amiga Networking Group                      -  Genghis Khan
gregm@cbmvax.commodore.com
From: mehlhaff@soda.Berkeley.EDU (ERic MeHlHaFf)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: DNet Installation help needed
Date: 12 Oct 92 18:12:24
Organization: The Dis-Orginization
NNTP-Posting-Host: soda.berkeley.edu
In-reply-to: djs55750@dcl-nxt01's message of Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:17:24 GMT

In article <BvnxL1.4Cy@news.cso.uiuc.edu> djs55750@dcl-nxt01 (David John Schulz) writes:


   I used archie, but I'm not sure where I can grab the latest version of DNet,
   and if I remember correctly, part of the program remains on the unix side and
   part on the Amiga side.  Is there a split archive with the 2 parts seperate
   (so I don't have to dl and the ul the Unix side)?  Also, is there someone out
   there who's willing to assist me in installing DNet on my system and online
   account?  

   What would be the best, is if someone configured it all for me, and then sent
   that archive to me...not sure how possible this may be though.  Please let me
   know if you are able to help me in any way.  And thanx in advance.



I've found that the 'latest' distribution of DNet was a bit messy and not
too well set up, so I cleaned it up a bit and fixed the unix side makefiles.
It's availabe for ftp from OCF.Berkeley.EDU in pub/amiga.

There's also a .tar.Z file of the unix side, for people whose unix systems
don't have lha/lharc.

I don't think it's anywhere near pre-configured. But it's not that hard to
do.

--
ERic mehlhaff					Hoser at large
mehlhaff@soda.Berzerkeley.EDU
mehlhaff@ocf.berkeley.EDU
From: jvasher@cquest.mi.org (Joe Vasher)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: MP_CHESS! multi-play support
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! v0.960
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:25:32 EST
Organization: Not an Organization

        I'm posting this on datacomm do to the fact I no longer can get into 
the support area For Cnet on Future World. Ken found out that I'm running 
Excelsior BBS software and Cut my access from Registered Cnet sysop to Peon on 
his board. Thank god all software companys don't run there bussiness like CNET.

        Anyways, Now that I feel better about that, For those who wish to 
contact me at the address below. Or leave mail for me on FW which I will check 
in on from time to time to see if anyone is having Problems or questions about 
MP_Chess! Multi-player Dos door for BBS's.



()=======================================================================()
||        Joe Vasher               Internet jvasher@cquest.mi.org        ||
||        ComQuest BBS             UUCP     vela!mbsun!cquest!jvasher    ||
||        Powered by Excelsior     BBS      (313) 729-8035               ||
()=======================================================================()
From: altam@ocf.berkeley.edu (Allen Tam)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Term prog that has 14.4k
Date: 7 Oct 1992 06:54:25 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: tornado.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Oct6.152612.20856@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com> jgrimm@TorreyPinesCA.ncr.com (Jeffrey Grimmett 9999) writes:
>
>You've already got two comm packages that support 14400+... you just need to
>set them up right.  For either, set the bps of the BBS you are calling to
>19200... make sure RTS/CTS is enabled... and you should see beautiful 14400
>bps connects using either program.  If not, there may be something wrong,
>but not with the programs -- both are used at high speed on a regular basis.
>
>-- 
>

You're right, since I pushed it to 19.2k, everything works okay now.  All I
have to say that going at 14.4 is COOL. :)

I thank everyone who so graciously helped me!
From: ridder@zso.dec.com (Hans Ridder)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Baudbandit.device?
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:59:49 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation - DECwest Engineering
Originator: ridder@zowie.zso.dec.com

In article <jbickers.0gtw@templar.actrix.gen.nz> jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz (John Bickers) writes:
>Quoted from <1992Oct12.172931.5626@ninja.zso.dec.com> by Hans Ridder <ridder@zso.dec.com>:
>> Since C= rewrote serial.device for 2.0 (and made it quite a bit faster,)
>
>    CBM is a little wierd with the serial.device. Did they put in a
>    "drop DTR" command with 2.0?

No, so what's your point?  What does that have to do with its speed, or
whether they rewrote it?  Does BaudBandit.device have a "drop DTR"
command?  I don't want to put myself in the postion of defending C=,
I'll leave that to them, I was just stating a fact, which you took out
of context.

>    I think it's fair to say that most comms people do with a micro
>    nowadays is 8N1 with hardware handshaking. Anything else is either
>    obsolete or getting that way.
>
>    For example, all BBSing here is 8N1, and the only thing I've got
>    that needs 7E1 is logging into a stupid Unix box.

So far you've shown two examples.  BBSing and "a stupid Unix box."  And
the results are 50/50 for your 8N1 claim.  What else comes under your
heading of "most comms people do?"  *I* think it's fair to say that not
all the world is a BBS.  Some people *must* use XON/XOFF, parity, etc.,
no matter what you think of it.  It's not a matter of choice.

The stupidity of Unix is of course a matter of opinion.  If you think
it's stupid or obsolete because it uses 7E1, then don't log in to it.

The point is, just saying it's "stupid" doesn't make it go away, or make
anyone's need to communicate with it vanish.  Unix is there, people use
it, and it frequently requires 7E1.

>> I imagine that it's about as fast as it can be.  I'm sure C= could make
>> it faster by taking some features out!
>
>    The documented performance of serial.device that I've got does not
>    match the speed that the comms port can be driven at by some
>    pieces of software.

OK, let's see your documentation.

I too can write software which will drive the serial port faster than
the serial.device but that's not the point.  The point was that
BaudBandit.device makes gains over serial.device by sacrificing
features.  Some people don't need those features, some do.  It's not for
everyone.

>    I don't think the serial.device is written with "ultimate" speed in
>    mind, it's more of a general purpose thing.

Isn't that just rephrasing what I said? (Look up above.)  I say it's
probably as fast as it can be given the requirements.  Take some
requirements away, and you can probably make it faster.  Pretty basic
engineering.

>*** John Bickers, TAP.                   jbickers@templar.actrix.gen.nz ***

-hans
-- 
  Hans-Gabriel Ridder				Digital DECwest Engineering
  ridder@rust.zso.dec.com			Bellevue, Washington, USA
  {pacbell,pyramid,uunet}!rust.zso.dec.com!ridder
From: jagrizza@uncc.edu (James A Grizzard)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: SUPRA ROMs...
Date: 12 Oct 92 20:28:50 GMT
Reply-To: jagrizza@uncc.edu
Organization: University of NC at Charlotte

does anyone know what the current version of the ROMs is on the SupraFAXModem 14.4??
I just got mine today and want to see if the ROMs are the new ones released a week or
two ago...

tnx...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: stefanb@hathi.informatik.rwth-aachen.de (Stefan Becker)
Subject: Re: `term' v2.4 to be released rsn.
Organization: Rechnerbetrieb Informatik  /  RWTH Aachen
Date: 15 Oct 92 12:52:14 GMT

It is already available on the AmiNet sites:

   amiga.physik.unizh.ch [130.60.80.80] /amiga/comm/term/term2.4*

	Stefan

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From: irani@hecto.cs.umn.edu (Erach A. Irani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: public domain  tcp/ip ka9q :how install ?
Keywords: how install  ka9q, tcp/ip public domin
Date: 16 Oct 92 03:20:26 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

We hvve an Aiga 2000 with a 68040 acccelerator.
How do  I install the ka9q tcp/ip pacckage.
I do have a 3com501 carrd and the amiga tcp/ip card.

Does ka9q (other publicc domin software) support the amiga ethernet card

	Thanks,	
	erach (irani@cs.umn.edu)

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: VLT - PingServer
From: Blaise Tarr <BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 00:44:01 EDT
Organization: Penn State University

Hi,

I haven't gotten the VLT manual yet, but I would like to use the PingServer
program provided with it.  Could someone tell me how to set VLT up to send
the BEEP message to the PingServer port instead of the regular beep tone?

Thanks.

       ///  Blaise Tarr
      ///
  \\\///    BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu     "Typically, the subject being copied
   \XX/     tarr@cs.psu.edu           is terminated."   -CSM 101
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: 22black@sol.cs.wmich.edu (Martin E. Black)
Subject: Re: Term
Keywords: Term
Organization: Western Michigan Univ. Comp. Sci. Dept.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 19:33:51 GMT

Well, i have been using term 2.3 since it came out and it has been bullet
proof.  But the one for the 030, crashes on my 030 a500 and a3000.  I just
use the regular one, the one in the first archive.  And as for zmodem
and others not working.  Make certain all the libs files are in lower 
case.  And for those that complain it failing, i have found term 2.3 all 
versions crashes on a 68000.  But you don't have to worry, just use the 
one in the first archive.


Marty
From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: baudbandit.device
Date: 11 Oct 92 21:13:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: terapin.paulk.1ui0
Organization: BBS

Since everybody's providing lists of situations where baudbandit.device works,
I'll just mention that for me it ALMOST works.  This is the way it's been for
other people I know who've tried it.  It SEEMS to work but then you get
unexplained weird transfer errors and things that go away when you switch back
to serial.device.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: baltzebw@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Bruce back again!)
Subject: Re: WHY TERM CRASHES WHEN YOU ATTEMPT CUT&PASTE
Keywords: term guru 
Organization: Technical University of Nova Scotia, Halifax, N.S.
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 04:15:10 GMT

ahhh, ok.  someone else who followed up to my post also spoke of 'patching
shoddy code', and i assumed he meant commodore, since it patches their roms.
apologies to whomever i replied to.  i know this is more of programming
question, and please answer to e-mail (or c.s.a.p), but what do you do if
you want to write an odd number of bytes?  i thought all writes had to
go to even word boundaries?  do you just tack on an extra byte?
oh, well, at least the newer setpatch makes term work, and i don't notice any
slowing down from the user point of view.
(sheesh, excuse the poor punctuation and grammar - it's getting late
and i was up 'til 4 last night getting assignments done...)
l8r,
bruce

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Organization: Penn State University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 19:42:06 EDT
From: Blaise Tarr <BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Baudbandit.device with VLT -> YES!
 <1992Oct9.214856.21213@henson.cc.wwu.edu>

In article <1992Oct9.214856.21213@henson.cc.wwu.edu>, n8846069@henson.cc.wwu.edu
(BarryB) says:
>I have succesfully used both 1.2 and 1.4 of BaudBandit.device.
>
>            worked?
>            -------
>VLT           no
>Term          yes
>MagiCall      yes

I got the BaudBandit.device to work with VLT after reading one of Willy's
posts.  The problem is that VLT does not like capital letters in the device
name (C= made that rule).  So I took a hex file editor, namely FileMaster,
and changed the capital "B"s in the string "BaudBandit" to a lower case "b".
This occurs at a couple of places in the BaudBandit.device file.  After that
I renamed BaudBandit.device to baudbandit.device, and tada, it works :-).

       ///  Blaise Tarr
      ///
  \\\///    BGT101@psuvm.psu.edu     "Typically, the subject being copied
   \XX/     tarr@cs.psu.edu           is terminated."   -CSM 101
From: Owen_Mckeith@saug.UUCP (Owen Mckeith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Baudbandit.device?
Distribution: world
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:43:36 CST
Organization: Saskatoon Amiga Users' Group

I had BaudBandit.device v1.4 running on the BBS (DLG Pro/TrapDoor).  I
didn't notice any problems, but a number of high speed users state that
they were getting SLOWER transfer rates than they did when I used C='s
Serial.device, therefore I switched back, and we were getting back up
towards 1600 - 1800 cps on compressed files.

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992

        __                | 
       /// Owen McKeith.  | Sysop:   SASKATOON AMIGA USERS' GROUP BBS
      ///                 |                14400 V.32bis/V.42bis
 __  ///   Amiga 2000     | Phone:            (306) 244-6936
 \\\///    50Mhz G-Force  | Fido:               1:140/58.0  
  \XX/     9Mb RAM        | UUCP: Telepro!SAUG!Owen_McKeith@access.usask.ca
                          |
From: bloc1469@ee.ee.uwm.edu (Gregory R. Block)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: WHY TERM CRASHES WHEN YOU ATTEMPT CUT&PASTE
Keywords: term guru
Date: 15 Oct 92 15:58:45 GMT
Article-I.D.: uwm.1bk4flINNigq
Organization: Electrical Engineering Dept. University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
NNTP-Posting-Host: 129.89.2.33

In article <1992Oct15.040726.27180@newton.ccs.tuns.ca> baltzebw@newton.ccs.tuns.ca (Bruce back again!) writes:
>well, whether it's kludgy or not, it makes term work, and it doesn't crash if
>you use the newer setpatch.  it makes everything work ok, and it shows it's
>not term screwing up, at least.

That's the point:  It shows it _IS_.  The setpatch isn't placing fixes
in to fix bugs in the OS, it's placing fixes in to fix bugs in
PROGRAMS.

See?  I don't know if Olaf is actually testing on a 2.04 system or
not, but he should at least give it a dry run on the one system he's
known to have problems with:  68000's, running 2.04.  The crashes and
memory lossage is the one reason that I use the 2000 rather than my
development system for Term.

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From: 832root@gw.wmich.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Where to get AXsh
Date: 13 Oct 92 16:15:02 EST
Organization: Western Michigan University

Can someone tell me where to get AXSh (th..

the remote login shell for the Amiga?  I currently use wuarchive and
sometimes iscabbs for my FTPing.. someone mentioned it can be gotten at
one of the aminet sites.. what are these Aminet sites (the addresses)

 - rick root
From: mabac@lysator.liu.se (Mattias Back`n)
Subject: Re: QWK off-line message reader for Amiga?
Organization: Lysator Academic Computer Society, Linkoping University, Sweden
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:18:33 GMT

ralph@bugend.edvina.se (Staffan Vilcans) writes:

>[...]
>Considering that even the BlueWave-format is not free it might not be 
>so strange after all... :-(

>I think I'll go and write my own *free* format, or perhaps join in the 
>development of NiKoms OffDown-format...

BlueWave, OffDown, QWK.. there seems to be quite a few standards. Would
it be possible to get a list of the most common ones and where a
specification can be found? I've found two (different) specifications of
the QWK format after searching several BBSes. I didn't find anything on
InterNet as I expected..

------------------------------------
Mattias Backen  mabac@Lysator.LiU.SE
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: thecure@ee.mu.OZ.AU (matthew aardvarkious)
Subject: ka9q *help* please
Organization: Electronic and Electrical Engineering - University of Melbourne 
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 06:54:30 GMT

*sigh* - I'l explain the setup, and then the problem.

sunos 4.1.1 machine with the slip-4.1-beta package installed.

i run slip-attach /dev/ttyp0 9600 [my ka9q ip] [my unix ip] 255.255.255.0

on the amiga side (ka9q) I type this in..

(I have empty startup things cause I want to know what is happening.)
----
ip address [my assigned ip number in /etc/hosts]
domain addserver [my name server ip]
attach asy serial.device 0 slip sl0 8000 512 9600
route addprivate default sl0
start telnet
start ftp
--------

if I then try    hopcheck check [unix ip number]   
i get a stack of ***'s

if I try telnet [unix ip number]
it connects, shows the login message, I can type one character
and then it dies. (ie appears to do nothing.)

I'm running amiganos from the command line with no options.

can someone help?

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Anything I may say that may be deemed offensive and/or damaging should NOT
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Please direct any/all complaints/enquiries to thecure@ee.mu.oz.au