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From: gnreddy@cbnewsf.att.com (G.Narotham Reddy)
Subject: India's Communication Land Earth Station has become operational
Organization: AT&T
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 02:46:31 GMT


Source	: DataQuest, September, 1992
Country	: India

Topics:
* Vikram LES Operational
* 64 kbps Link by December: VSNL

                               * * * * 

* Vikram LES Operational

India's first satellite mobile communication Land Earth Station (LES), 
Vikram, which was dedicated to the nation for communications has become
operational. Vikram LES has already captured three percent of INMARSAT
traffic in the Indian Ocean Region. The turnover from this station is
expected to be around Rs 10 crore in the first year of operations. It
has started generating 3,000 minutes of traffic each day and has around
100 Indian subscribers. VLES also has foreign subscribers. Negotiations
are on with neighbouring and south east Asian countries for the use of
LES.
	Till now INMARSAT calls from maritime mobile and land-mobile
customers were routed through an LES located in another country. Such
calls from the IOR will now be routed through VLES. Indian customers
can pay for such calls in Indian Rupees.
	Located at Arvi near Pune, the VLES is connected to the satellite
network of London based INMARSAT. It provides shore-to-ship (and
vice-versa) telephone, telex, fax, datacom services to and from,
maritime mobile and land-based INMARSAT terminals. It also provides
value-added services such as instantaneous distress alert calls,
medical assistance packet switched data services and e-mail.
	Future plans of VLES include: high-speed (64 kbps) data services to
be commissioned by the end of 1992 as part of INMARSAT-A service:
INMARSAT-C services will be commissioned by the end of 1993: INMARSAT-B
& M services will be commissioned by the second quarter of 1994; and
INMARSAT aeronautical services are to be commissioned by the end of
1994.
	The establishment of VLES is a milestone in the maritime
communications history of India. With this, India has joined the ranks
of those countries who provide maritime mobile and land-mobile
communications.

* 64 kbps Link by December: VSNL

The VSNL has set December 1992 as the deadline for providing the much
awaited 64 kbps satellite based data link to the STPs(Software
Technology Park) in the country. 
	In the initial phase, VSNL proposes to connect STPs at NOIDA,
Bangalore, Pune and Gandhi Nager. Later the facility will be extended
to other STPs as well as the export processing zones. This direct link,
to be primarily used by the software exporters is expected to net 
Rs 100 Crore in foreign exchange.
	The STPs at Pune, Bangalore and Bhubaneshwar have already been
connected through a localized PAD using the Gateway Packet Switching
Systems(GPSS) located in Bombay.

                               * E N D *
Newsgroups: misc.news.southasia
From: ramani@saathi.ncst.ernet.in (S.Ramani)
Subject: Pakistan seeks Extraditiion of Murtaza Ali Bhutto from Syria
Organization: National Center for Software Technology, Bombay
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 92 00:59:39 GMT


Source  - Press Trust of India 
Date    - Tue, Oct 13, 1992
Sent by - S. Ramani
Country - Pakistan

                                 * * * * * 


* Pakistan seeks extraditiion of Murtaza Ali Bhutto
      from Sujit Chatterjee

      Islamabad, Oct 13 (PTI): Pakistan today sought the extradition of 
Murtaza Ali Bhutto, the Chief of ''Al-Zulfikar'' organisation, from Syria 
while charging him with carrying out ''sabotage and terrorist'' activities 
in the country.
      an official announcement here said that the charge d' affairs of the 
Syrian embassy was called to the foreign office and requested to hand over 
Murtaza Bhutto, elder brother of former Prime Minister, Ms Benazir Bhutto, 
to Pakistan.
      ''the government is also in touch with the interpol for his arrest,'' 
the spokesman said adding that the government had taken a serious note of 
the interview given by him to a Pakistani daily admitting that he headed 
the ''tens of thousands strong Al-Zulfikar organisation, involved in armed
resistance inside Pakistan.''
      in the interview given by him in Damascus, where he is currently 
living and published in ''The News'' of September 16, Murtaza Bhutto had 
denied the allegation that ''the government of India trains our people. 
At the same time, I want to add that we find patches in Sindh, in 
Baluchistan and along the borders with neighbouring countries to train our
people.''
      he had said that ''there are large tracks of no-man's land not
not only between India and Pakistan, but also between Iran and Pakistan. 
The Indian government had nothing to do with us.'' 

                             * E N D *
Newsgroups: misc.news.southasia
From: mcgregor@netcom.com (Scott Mcgregor)
Subject: Re: Patents:  What they are.  What they aren't.  Other factors.
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 04:20:45 GMT

In article <id.Q_2U.OZF@ferranti.com> peter@ferranti.com (peter da silva) writes:
>to AT&T code. Which is in fact the case. Where else could I have seen it?
You could have seen it from code that was created by someone who did
have access to the AT&T code at one time, wrote a "freeware" program
and passed it around the net.  If you leverage from that free code you
might be essentially using stolen property unknowingly.  AT&T may not
even need to prove the trail if the allegedly coincidental aspects of
the code are similar enough the jury may be more prone to believe that
you reused stolen code than that you reinvented it from scratch. What
is similar enough to convince a jury can be a pretty hard to predict thing.

>What, fewer suits because we have software patents?

Fewer suits because licenses are more widespread, standardized and
restrict suits against members over usage issues.

>I have made no such claim. I claim that SOFTWARE PATENTS only benefit
>lawyers, and the best possible solution you have come up with to the
>problem benefits lawyers *more than* it does inventors, over the
>rational status quo where software patents do not exist.

Can you show me how software patents fail to benefit inventors who
hold them and use them to acquire capital, and also how they fail to
benefit investors to invest in firms that hold them?  These are
non-lawyer groups who seem to benefit from patents. Are they not
benefiting?  And concerning the clearinghouse, can you show that
the solution I have raised benefits lawyers more than inventors, when
in cases of other clearinghouses their establishment has lead to fewer
suits, fewer individual licenses (and their requisite legal review)
and has raised the average royalty receipts of the intellectual property
holders who submit their property?  Does this not suggest a reduction
in overal legal costs (less benefit to lawyers) and more royalties (a
greater benefit to inventors)?
-- 

Scott L. McGregor		mcgregor@netcom.com
President			tel: 408-985-1824
Prescient Software, Inc.	fax: 408-985-1936
3494 Yuba Avenue
San Jose, CA 95117-2967



Xref: sparky misc.int-property:1199 misc.legal:18764
From: kadie@herodotus.cs.uiuc.edu (Carl M. Kadie)
Newsgroups: misc.int-property,misc.legal
Subject: Copyright Law Gopher
Date: 16 Oct 92 15:18:12 GMT
Article-I.D.: m.1992Oct16.151812.25745
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

If you have access to gopher, you can access the text of the U.S.
Copyright Act.

gopher fatty.law.cornell.edu
   -->    9.  Legal Information Institute/
        -->    1.  Copyright Act/


(Thanks to an email correspondent for telling me about this.)

- Carl

--
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Newsgroups: misc.int-property
From: rick@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca (R. Innis)
Subject: IPR in Oz?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: UTCS Public Access
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:33:34 GMT


I'd like to know the state of Australian copyright law as it pertains to
software.  Specifically, if someone is paid to write a program, who
does the resulting source code belong to?  If there are any
differences between states, let's start with Queensland.

Any and all responses appreciated - respond by email and I'll
summarize later.

	--Rick.
From: gordond@hpmwtd.sr.hp.com (Gordon DeWitte)
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 15:42:53 GMT
Subject: Re: hummingbird feeder formula
Organization: HP Santa Rosa Site (SRSD MWTD)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers

One part sugar to four parts water; boil it; let it cool; feed hummers.
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: markr@mot.com (Mark)
Subject: Re: contacts by mail -- illegal/unethical??
Reply-To: markr@mcil.comm.mot.com
Organization: MCIL
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 05:50:27 GMT

In article <Bw2LKn.3Fw@news.cso.uiuc.edu> berger@atropa (Mike Berger) writes:
>giddings@denali.physics.ucsb.edu (Steve Giddings) writes:
>>I have been ordering my contacts by mail from Dial a Contact Lens.
>>I recently changed eye doctors, and my new eye doctor is stridently
>>opposed to my doing this.  He claims that outfits like this obtain 
>>their contacts illegally or unethically through third parties,
>>referred to an embargo that other doctors
>>are attempting to enforce, and has refused to give me my prescription.
>
>>My question:  is it true that Dial a Contact Lens and other such
>>mail-order lens suppliers are illegal, unethical, or in a legal gray
>>area?  Or is my doctor (and his friends) just trying to protect their
>>ability to continue to dispense contacts, either for medical reasons
>>or for profit reasons?  
>*----
>It's a little of both.  It's perfectly legal.  And it certainly cuts
>into the profits of local suppliers, so it's often frowned upon by
>members of the industry.  Conversely, you can understand why a few
>doctors might be reluctant to write you a prescription for something
>as potentially-dangerous as a contact lens, when you will be
>purchasing it from a supplier beyond their control.  If you 
>scratch your eye or get a bacterial infection, will you blame
>the contact lens or your eye doctor?

You will blame the contact lens and go to the doctor for treatment,
and in the future, will buy all your lenses from the doctor.  Doctor
does very well in this case.

Of course, if you follow the instructions, and don't have any problems,
you will only see the doctor every year or so to check for a change
in prescription.

Mark


Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.politics.elections
From: venky@thelonious.bellcore.com (G A Venkatesh)
Subject: Re: Cable Bill Rip-off
Reply-To: venky@thelonious.bellcore.com (G A Venkatesh)
Organization: Bellcore, Morristown NJ
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 17:53:34 GMT

In article <1992Oct7.110329.196@sdg.dra.com> sean@sdg.dra.com writes:
>In article <Bvr4p0.1vA@rice.edu>, byrd@lucerne.rice.edu (Marc J Byrd) writes:
>> Your analogy is fundamentally flawed.  Let's make it more valid:
>> 
>> Say Time/Warner took TIME Magazine, made a few million copies, and mailed
>> them out FREE to anyone who had the equipment (analog of a TV set)
>> to receive them.  (Broadcasters don't (yet) make me pay to receive
>> their signal). 
>
>I receive many "free" magazines and newspapers every week.  Things like
>InfoWorld, Communications Week, and a few dozen more are sent to me
>at no charge.  Every single one of them is copyrighted, and the publishers
>get a bit upset when people reprint their articles without permission.  Oh
>by the way, Time-Warner also gives away  a few hundred copies of TIME every
>week for a variety of things.  It doesn't make their copyright any less
>enforcable.

The "promotional" samples of magazines are quite small in number compared to 
the total circulation and is designed to *increase* the paid circulation. 
If someone were to give away copies of TIME free, it would decrease the *paid* 
circulation of TIME. That is the bottom-line, not whether something is 
copyrighted. If someone else distributing free copies of TIME would bring more 
money to Time-Warner, they would allow it. 

Broadcast stations have *no* paid subscribers. Cable systems carrying their 
signals acts to *increase* their only source of revenue - advertising. For 
any broadcast station, if the circumstances are such that their existence 
on cable is going to make more money for the cable company than for the 
station, they have the option to charge the cable station. The cable station 
then has the option of refusing to carry them if the subscription rates don't
justify it. Seems fair to me.

>
>I listen to several radio stations at no charge, but if I want to have
>music-on-hold on my phone system by piping a radio in to the phone system
>ASCAP, BMI, etc demand a fee of $100 per line.  They also prosecute
>people who don't pay.

Wrong analogy again. The radio station will be quite happy to let you play the
radio-station over your phone-line. They have no paid subscribers. The recording
companies on the other hand are different. They are not interested in free
exposure (unless it is for increasing sales of recordings) and would like
to get whatever money they can for any use of their material. Same thing with
TV stations. Syndicated shows will make a deal with the TV station, depending
on the circulation of the station which may include cable transmission. Most
TV shows don't have the lucrative sales with recorded media that music
industry has. See the distinction?

venky
From: Edward_Engler@transarc.com
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: colorado Prime (beef)
Date: 15 Oct 92 06:37:19 GMT
Article-I.D.: transarc.MerM8T=0BwwD0=UvVc
 <1992Oct13.230942.13911@informix.com><1992Oct14.172053.12719@netcom.com>
	<92288.154647LWH@psuvm.psu.edu>
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA


Their name comes up in this group every now and then.  The short answer
is that they have a good reputation, but you have to eat a lot of beef. 
The grocery prices are higher than grocery stores when you compare
prices of equivalent products (which they make very difficult).  They
will not save you money, but do offer the convenience of delivery.

Ed Engler
From: djensen@claven.idbsu.edu (Dave J)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Futons-do they last?
Date: 13 Oct 92 21:29:46 GMT
Organization: Morrison Center for the Performing Arts

I am thinking about buying a futon (sofa to bed frame).

I'm curious to know how long before they become uncomfortable due to matting? 

What is the life expectancy? 

Are they particularly more or less uncomfortable than regular beds?

Thanks much,

Dave
djensen@claven.idbsu.edu
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: minor@rtsg.mot.com (Kevin Minor)
Subject: Re: Sweepstakes
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:50:23 GMT

jls@hela.iti.org (Janet L. Smith) writes:

|>I just received a notice that I had "successfully completed the
|>first two stages of the All-American Sweepstakes and Promotion"
|>and I am ABSOLUTELY GUARANTEED to receive at least one of the
|>following 5 items
|>	o  Chrysler LeBaron of $10,000 cash (they pay sales tax)
|>	o  2 round trip airfares to Bahamas (hotel as low as
|>	   $27/night)
|>	o  Sony 32" color tv
|>	o  Sony camcorder/VCR
|>	o  $1,250 cash

|>Now,  I know I have never entered a sweepstakes and they say the
|>mailing list was drawn up from "credit and other criteria to target
|>people most likely to be interested in this offer."     They say you
|>are guaranteed to get something and then give odds for the awards -
|>the vacation being 249,969:250,000.    Is this a time-share scam?
|>They don't mention this anywhere in the "Certificate of Award" but
|>require you to call an 800 number for more details.   

|>Anyone else get one of these?

Yes, my wife did. I'd never consider one of these before, but the 
fine print says something like no purchases necessary or something.
(I need to reread it.)

If anyone actually knows what the catch to this is, post it.
-- 
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Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: markr@mot.com (Mark)
Subject: Re: Which Cordless Phone?
Reply-To: markr@mcil.comm.mot.com
Organization: MCIL
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 08:59:51 GMT

In article <cjc-131092104205@mac182.acns.nwu.edu> cjc@nwu.edu (Christopher J. Chen) writes:
> . . . .
>One of the *nicest* features of the phone to a paranoid like me is that
>when the handset is in the base charging, no cordless calls can be made on my
>line.
>I find that *very* reassuring:  I can leave it in the base while I'm gone
>for the day and not have to worry about spoofed calls.

All good cordless telephones have this feature. (unless they can handle multiple
handsets, currently this doesn't exist as far as I know)  Another feature good
cordless phones have is a security code which changes when the handset is
re-cradled, and requires this code to be send by the handset to the base before
the base will allow the handset to access the telephone line.

Mark
From: das@voodoo.boeing.com (Deb Schwartz)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
Subject: Re: How can I stop telemarketers from calling??
Date: 13 Oct 92 23:30:59 GMT
Organization: Yet Another Graphics Project, Bellevue, WA

In article <1992Oct13.164613.5727@colorado.edu> wouk@alumni.cs.colorado.edu (Arthur Wouk) writes:
>when telemarketing started up a few years ago i made it a matter of
>principle to respond immediatley to all calls:
>
>   i never respond to telemarketing calls.
>
>then i would hang up.
>
>within a few weeks it all stopped. i believe they have a special
>category for people like me. they get us off their lists fast. it does
>cost them money to make the call, you know.
>-- 

I think Arthur's right.  I used to get a lot of telemarketing calls, but I
starting telling every one of them "I never buy anything over the phone" and
hanging up.  It's been at least a year since I've gotten a solicitation call.
------
Debbie Schwartz // das@voodoo.boeing.com  // or uunet!bcstec!voodoo!das 
    "organic is close to godliness, but like godliness, can have
     drawbacks like the busload of nuns that were wiped out by a
     run-away truck full of organic produce." - Suzanne McCaffrey
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: dunster@sdsu.edu (mark dunster)
Subject: Is Amway a scam???
Organization: sdsu
Date: Sat, 17 Oct 1992 02:50:07 GMT

Sorry if this is a FAQ: A friend of mine has been approached by
certain individials who are promising her the "path to financial
security." When she told me this, my alarm bells starting ringing!
I don't know any details, but they will be giving another presentation
at her house in a couple of weeks (which I plan to attend!). From
what I can gather, it is some organization called "Amway", which
I vaguely remember reading about on this net some time ago, (but I
can't remember the details.)

My feelings are that these "get rich quick" schemes are either:

(i) some pyramid-type rip-off

or (ii) working n thousand hours at home for a pittance of a 
commission,

or (iii) both the above.

Am I being overly skeptical?  Can people in the know please tell 
me about Amway: how do they operate? (One word that they mentioned to
her is "networking".) Are they respectable?

I would greatly appreciate any info. I don't want her to get ripped
off.


Thanks,

Mark Dunster.
Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: charleen@ADS.COM (Charleen Bunjiovianna)
Subject: Re: Don't use CHECKS IN THE MAIL
Organization: The Original Estrogen-Crazed Lust Bunnies
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 01:11:56 GMT

In article <1992Oct6.212103.30867@xylogics.com> simpson@steam.Xylogics.COM (Reid Simpson) writes:
>Well, the Subject is a bit harsh but thanks for letting us know that
>they are backed up. I received checks last month after a three week
>wait. 

Mine took a month, but I've learned through experience never to wait
until I'm on the last pad of 25 checks to re-order.

Charleen

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Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: strnlght@netcom.com (David Sternlight)
Subject: Re: Cable Bill Rip-off
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 18:03:37 GMT


Sean Donelan uses a false analogy when he compares a cable company's
retransmission of broadcasts to Xeroxing time magazine. Broadcasts
are distributed to anyone, over the public airwaves, without payment
of fee by the viewer.

Suppose there were a hill blocking a TV station, and Jones, who owns the
hill, took it down so his development behind the hill could receive
the signal. Should Jones have to pay the TV station? Just so with
cable retransmission, since the material is carried unaltered.

If cable companies were to pull out ads on braodcasts, or add their
own, then the NAB might have a good case, but as things currently
stand this is nonsense.

Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: marshall@sweetpea.jsc.nasa.gov (Jay Marshall)
Subject: mildew smell in car A/C (need summary)
Organization: McDonnell Douglas Space Systems Company
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 22:39:31 GMT

A while back I saw some posts on getting rid of a mildew smell
coming from a car's air conditioner.  At the time I didn't pay
much attention, since I had never even heard of the problem before.
Well, now I need some kind soul to provide me with a summary of
the responses on that topic.

thanks in advance,

Jay

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Newsgroups: misc.consumers
From: harrison@mprgate.mpr.ca (Jeff Harrison)
Subject: Ford Paint recalls?
Reply-To: harrison@mprgate.mpr.ca (Jeff Harrison)
Organization: MPR Teltech Ltd.
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 21:12:48 GMT

Howdy,

A little while back I thought I saw someone mention that Ford
will repaint your car if it is between 19xx and 19xx.
This individual also stated that this "recall" isn't officially
announced as it would cost Ford.

Could someone kindly post the information again. 
I believe it was something to do with the primer used?

Thanxs a bunch,

Jeff Harrison (harrison@mprgate.mpr.ca)
- A Canuck for life
Xref: sparky misc.consumers:17700 alt.politics.elections:16154
From: tzs@stein.u.washington.edu (Tim Smith)
Newsgroups: misc.consumers,alt.politics.elections
Subject: Re: Cable Bill Rip-off
Date: 12 Oct 92 03:22:21 GMT
Article-I.D.: u.1992Oct12.032221.29801
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle

>I suggest that the next time you decide to open your mouth and spout off
>total BS,  You read up on what you plan to talk about.  I can tell from
>your statements that you have not read the bill/law.  I thought that there
>would be no-one foolish enough to believe these lies that the cable companys
>were publishing.
>
>I was wrong.  It looks like this may be the second person in as many days
>who spouted of the cable lies (almost line for line) and allowed themselves
>to be open for the true facts to be thrown back in their face.

You should read talk.politics.misc.  The cable company ads hooked half a
dozen over there. :-)

--Tim Smith
Newsgroups: misc.consumers