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From: ravi@wti.com (Ravi Raj)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: IMO BEST JOINT INDO-PAK XI  (1970 - 1990)
Date: 29 Sep 92 18:33:47 GMT
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      IMO BEST JOINT INDO-PAK XI  (1970 - 1990)
      -----------------------------------------

Here's a joint Indo-Pakistan team selected on the basis of individual 
performances between 1970 and 1990. All IMHO of course!

     1.  Sunil Gavaskar (vice-capt)
     2.  Farookh Engineer (wk)
     3.  Zaheer Abbas
     4.  G.R. Vishwanath
     5.  Javed Miandad
     6.  Kapil Dev
     7.  Imran Khan  (capt)
     8.  Abdul Qadir
     9.  Wasim Akram
     10. B. S. Bedi
     11. B. S. Chandrasekhar

     12th man: Asif Iqbal

NOTES

   *  (1), (3), (4), (5), (6), (7), and (10) pretty much picked
      themselves!

   *  I chose Farookh Engineer as the keeper because this star
      studded team has no room for a specialist keeper. And clearly
      between 1970 and 1990, there has been just *one* marquee
      opener in the sub-continent. With apologies to fans of 
      Chetan Chauhan, Mohsin Khan and Majid Khan, I have to
      pick someone who'd do the dual and mundane (:-) roles of a 
      keeper and a partner to Gavaskar.

   *  I couldn't decide between Qadir and Chandra, so I chose both!!

   *  Add Wasim Akram to the list and you have a team that is clearly
      every batsman's nightmare. Some of you may question the inclusion
      of 6 bowlers in the team, but it is only to intimidate the
      opposition. Besides, 2 of them are marquee all-rounders. And
      Qadir and Akram aren't exactly door stoppers when it comes
      to batting.

   *  Once again, I don't know if I should explain why I chose Imran
      to lead the team. And Gavaskar IMO is the second shrewdest
      captain in the team! So he gets to lead the team in Imran's
      absence.
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From: pmc5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Paul M Corballis)
Subject: Re: Pakistan vs Rest of The World
Reply-To: pmc5@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Paul M Corballis)
Organization: Columbia University
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 19:33:06 GMT

In article <mamohamm.717705464@vela> mamohamm@pluto.acs.oakland.edu (SKEPTICAL) writes:
>	Does anybody know what happened to the match between 
>	Pakistan and Rest of the World in Toronto?
>
I presume you mean the one in New York on Saturday the 26th.  The
match was reduced to 20 overs per side due to poor weather, and the 
Pakistan team arriving late (about 3pm, I understand).  The ROW
scored 16?/4, and Pakistan made 15?/?.  Lara and Inzamam each m
made 50's.

I didn't see the match, so this is second hand.

>____________________________________________________________________
>A Man Wants To Be The Girl's First Love,
>			  A Woman Wants To Be The Man's Last Romance
>					  < somebody else's saying >


Cheers, Paul
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From: sougata@cc.gatech.edu (Sougata Mukherjea)
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
Reply-To: sougata@cc.gatech.edu (Sougata Mukherjea)
Organization: College of Computing
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 21:21:24 GMT

In article <00961702.FF66D0A0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>Here is my ALL World team of 80's
>----------
>
>
>1.Gavaskar
>2.Greenidge
>3.Richards
>4.Miandad
>5.Gower
>6.M.Crowe
>7.Kapil Dev
>8.Imran Khan
>9.Dujon
>10.Hadlee
>11.Qadir
>
>If it had been 70's there would have been a surfeit of great
>keepers. Like,KNott, Taylor,Marsh,Kirmani,Bari and Deryck Murray.
>
>Bye,
>
>************************************************************
>N.Ramasubramanian          	GO BREWERS ! GO !    
>
>Dept. of Mech. Engg.	        Listach for ROY
>Marquette University       
>************************************************************

There are too many batsmen in the side. I'd drop one (Crowe) and take Marshall.
Also Border may be a better choice than Gower.
And obviously the captain should be Imran.

- Sougata

PS> We have seen the Indian, English and the Australian worst XI.
What about the Pakistani one?
I can think of some names:
Mansoor Akhtar, Jalaluddin, Iqbal Sikander .....

- Sougata
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  Graphics Visualization and Usability Center
  College of Computing
  Georgia Institute of Technology 
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From: karnik@exa.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Indian Team to Tour Zim & SA
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:05:56 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota

In <1992Oct2.171800.24535@engage.pko.dec.com> prasad@cpdw.enet.dec.com (R Bharani Prasad) writes:

>Sad, Maninder was'nt chosen. But, where Maninder allowed the opponents to pile 
>600 odd runs and could pick up only 3 wickets, that engineer from Karnataka 
>came up with a deadly performance. A flash in the pan, may be (sorry PVR).

	Recent history does suggest that Indian leg-spinners have only 
provided flashes in the proverbial pan. L. Sivaramakrishna did precious little
in Tests after the three successive 6-wkt. hauls against England. Hirwani was
a major disappointment after the record-shattering debut. Now Kumble has the
opportunity to break the voodoo.  Of course, he's not yet done anything of the
sort in Tests, but perhaps, to us superstitious Indians, that's a welcome 
departure from the past :-)

>I doubt if he can repeat that at any level of cricket. I feel Maninder will be 
>in the team when the British tour India. Subrato is in the team on East Zone 
>quota. Of course, I don't know much about his recent performances. Can U throw 
>some light, Sadiq? Chetan definitely deserves another chance. Should'nt hv been 
	I too, was a trifle indignant at the retention of Bannerjee at the
expense of Ankola/Kuruvilla, so I read up on his recent performances in the
domestic competitions. What seems to have clinched his place is a 5-wkt. haul
in a one dayer (was it in the Deodhar trophy?) and a sensational 50 n.o. which
won the Deodhar Trophy for East Zone. Other than these, his performances have
been no better than average, and certainly less impressive than Ankola's.

>interesting thing is, either Raman/ Jadeja will play as a regular opener. 
>Srinath and Sanjay will be under pressure to perfrom extra-ordinarily. Amre 
>can't get in still (into the Test side). A balanced side. But a few slots will

	Amre probably will get into the side. Assuming that only one of 
Raman & Jadeja gets into the team, there are only four other regular batsmen,
Shastri, Azhar, M'kar and T'kar. IMHO, they'll have to take Amre too, and go 
with four regular bowlers plus Shastri/T'kar/Raman/Jadeja. Or are the selectors
banking heavily on the batting abilities of Kapil and Prabhakar ?

>/Bharani
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From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 92 03:48:29 GMT

In article <00961702.FF66D0A0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>Here is my ALL World team of 80's
>----------
>
>
>
>
>1.Gavaskar
>2.Greenidge
>3.Richards
>4.Miandad
>5.Gower    =====> How about Allan Border here ?
>6.M.Crowe
>7.Kapil Dev
>8.Imran Khan
>9.Dujon
>10.Hadlee
>11.Qadir
>

Cheers,

Ramkumar


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From: ccrob@uqvax.cc.uq.oz.au
Subject: Re: Worst Aussie side since 1970
Organization: The Prentice Centre, Uni of Queensland, Brisbane, Australia
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 07:22:32 GMT

In article <10490@uqcspe.cs.uq.oz.au>, brendan@cs.uq.oz.au (Brendan Mahony) writes:
> In <1992Sep26.152631.9579@st-andrews.ac.uk> rasf@st-andrews.ac.uk (Russell Anthony Stewart Fiedler) writes:
> 
>>Graham Yallop (c)
> 
> Jeez, some people get bad press don't they.

   {Statistics that make me spew because I can't bat to save my life deleted}

Sorry Brendan, but the original posting explicitly stated he made the emu team
based on his captaincy only. The author conceded that Yallop would have
Buckley's making the side based on his batting ability, if you know what I
mean. (Fair point, too - we haven't really had any captains in the current era
that rank up there with Chris Cowdrey).

--
Rob.

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From: kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar)
Subject: Re: "Pakistan" Champion again
Organization: CSIRO Division of Info Tech, Sydney, Australia
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 92 23:14:03 GMT

In article <1992Oct5.005209.3651@massey.ac.nz> A.Qadir@massey.ac.nz (A. Qadir) writes:
>
>Pakistan beat India in Hong Kong six a side "Final"
>Wendies beat New Zealand for third position match.
>
>So,   P A K I S T A N prove its power again.
>
>
>Pakistan Zindabad
>
>Altaf Qadir

What a conclusion !!!!!

Pakistan did win the World Cup 1991. The world champs in one day
cricket were indeed crushed by England in their 5 one day encounters.
The world champs were indeed defeated by India, West Indies and
South Africa and were very lucky to draw the match against England
after being bowled out for 74, in the world cup 1991 before winning
it.

Sixes tournament is something different where one cannot judge a
team. 

Cheers,

Ramkumar 
 
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From: bnataraj@uceng.UC.EDU (Bhaskar Natarajan)
Subject: Re: Indian Team to Tour Zim & SA
Organization: University of Cincinnati, Engineering College
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 18:20:03 GMT

In article <karnik.718218356@exa> karnik@exa.cs.umn.edu (Neeran M. Karnik) writes:

>	I too, was a trifle indignant at the retention of Bannerjee at the
>expense of Ankola/Kuruvilla, so I read up on his recent performances in the
>domestic competitions. What seems to have clinched his place is a 5-wkt. haul
>in a one dayer (was it in the Deodhar trophy?) and a sensational 50 n.o. which
>won the Deodhar Trophy for East Zone. Other than these, his performances have
>been no better than average, and certainly less impressive than Ankola's.

	Ankola definitely should have been in the team. Even on the tour
to Pak, Razdan was picked over Ankola for a test match, though Ankola was
doing much better on the tour than Razdan. It is another matter that Razdan
put up a freak performance which I doubt he has duplicated even in the 
domestic tournaments later. IMHO Ankola has been getting a very raw deal, 
and like Raju Kulkarni, I fear his is a talent that is going to go waste.
Even after not so bad performances in the Ranji, he is being ignored,
rather unfairly, IMO. How i'd like to see him in the team !


Bhaskar. (who's sabotaging the good quickies of India ?)



>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~  Neeran   Karnik  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Dept. of Computer Science,      | Email: karnik@cs.umn.edu
>University of Minnesota         |        karn0001@student.tc.umn.edu
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
From: shankar@sgi.com (Shankar Unni)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Tragedy for B.S. Chandrashekhar
Date: 6 Oct 1992 22:46:34 GMT
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Arun Simha, alias Gerd Von Rundstedt (aksimha@essex.ecn.uoknor.edu) wrote:

>    B.S. Chandrashekhar lost both his legs after a car accident six weeks ago.
>    A benefit match was held on the 4th of October.

Hey, waitaminute. Another accident??  Or is this a result of the
accident he had almost a year ago? If you folks remember that one - he
was hit by a truck while he was riding a scooter home from the KSCA
stadium in Bangalore, and one of his legs was pretty badly mangled. He
seemed to be recovering from that one...

Arun, please try to get some more details on this..
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From: ecrjbruce@economics.adelaide.edu.au
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Blood some Aussies
Date: 6 Oct 92 00:22:00 GMT
Organization: Economics, University of Adelaide
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In article <1992Sep30.140534.11837@lugb.latrobe.edu.au>, CS19241099G@LUST.LATROBE.EDU.AU (CRAWFORD, TROY) writes:

> 	The Sri Lankan tour was a disaster, we fell to their pitiful 
> bowling, got hammered at times by their batting and even our fielding 
> let us down on one or two occasions.  Time for a change!

True - the tour was not a success for the Aussie team, and did not help in any
way to sort out some of the problems with the team.

> 	The batting order is the first concern, do we bring back  Swampy
> (Marsh), leave Moody there, give Phillips a go, opt for the impressive
> shield debutant in Hayden or give a rank outsider like Nobes a go?  I 
> think that Hayden should be tried, we need to pressure the players so they
> know that their positions are not safe.

Well it's just been reported that Moody is going to bat at No. 4 for Western
Australia for the whole of the season. Moody has said that after a talk with
Geoff Marsh, he has decided that he is after a spot in the middle order of the
Aussie team, and NOT as an opener. This therefore narrows the choices down - I
feel the job will go to either Marsh or Hayden. Many feel Marsh is NOT the one
for the job - he's averaging in the low 20's against the Windies, but it may be
too soon to blood Hayden.....

> 	Mark Waugh needs a rest, because four consecutive ducks against the
> Sri Lankans indicates problems somewhere (I would at least score a run). 
> Give him a spell and perhaps bring brother Steve in to add a little experience
> or bring in another newcomer like Bevan, Siddons or even Lehman or Law. It
> is decisions like this that are required to strengthen our team.

Mark is still a much better bat than Steve, and if he can score runs in the pre
First Test matches, he should get the nod. But on previous form, both Lehmann
and Bevan deserve a spot.

> 	Anyhow, something needs to be done and why not try some new faces,
> A.B wont last much longer and Boon and Jonesy also will soon depart so give
> some of the youngsters experience, god knows they'll need it!

Well it looks as though AB has at least 2 more seasons as he has expressed his
desire to play South Africa both here and in South Africa in early 1994.
As for Boon and Jones.....fair go! Both are only around the 30 year old mark -
look at Gooch, playing his best cricket at 38! And AB's 37 years old!
True, the youngsters do need experience, but we do have to pick our BEST XI,
and if the current players are making runs they shouldn't be dropped.

> 	Chris the Aussie!

Daniel.
From: 5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: "We are the World" - a repost
Date: 1 Oct 1992 20:37:17 GMT
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There have been mail regarding the omission of
the West Indian speedsters from the team.
But my rational for picking the team was the
number of wickets taken in test. And I think
the bowlers I picked have more wickets than
the Pace Battery. O.k. o.k I agree that the
statistics are not the lone measure of
effectiveness (fear in the batsman's mind 
may be a better criterion when it comes to
pacemen ) but that was my rationale.

************************************************************
N.Ramasubramanian          	GO BREWERS ! GO !    

Dept. of Mech. Engg.	        Listach for ROY
Marquette University       
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From: vnesiah@aludra.usc.edu (Deep Third Man)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Best england XI since 1970
Date: 30 Sep 1992 14:42:49 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <1992Sep30.210542.27936@news.acns.nwu.edu> sidi@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sadiq Yusuf) writes:
>In article <1acqmoINN3nk@aludra.usc.edu> vnesiah@usc.edu (Deep Third Man) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep30.133741.9480@gserv1.dl.ac.uk> atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk writes:
>>>
...deleted..,

>>>11. Bob Willis (Surrey/Warwickshire)

>>Gooch over Amiss?

>>Willis is also not a good choice IMHO. 
>>No better than Lever.
>>Pringle (Derek) at his best (mid 80s) would have been a better choice.

>	Disagree strongly here !! I mean, I don't think you can compare
>Willis and Lever, and certainly not Pringle !! I like Pringle, a bit of a
>fan actually. But how can you compare him to Willis ? I mean, Willis does
>have about 325 test wickets after all. 
>


I guess I was too much in awe  (at that time) of the West Indian 
bowlers to think of Bob Willis as being World Class. I was also
not aware of his high tally of wickets.


Fine! Willis is in.

But, I must say that I see no reason why Pringle is so unpopular.
Sure he may be a snob of sorts (shades of Shashtri maybe?).
There can, however, be no doubt as to his ability. He is very consistent
when in form (unlike flashman Botham) and has the ability to be a thorn 
in the side of the op.team.

Remember the West Indian tour of Eng in 1988.
If not for Lamb and Pringle, England might have lost all the tests (almost).


- Vasee

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From: d188sid@utarlg.uta.edu (S RAMACHANDRAN)
Subject: is the INDIAN TEAM TO SA & ZIMBABVE OUT?
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Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 01:50:00 GMT
From: rasf@st-andrews.ac.uk (Russell Anthony Stewart Fiedler)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Worst English XI sice 1970
Date: 1 Oct 92 10:12:55 GMT
Organization: St. Andrews University, Scotland.

In article <1992Sep29.140215.10238@athena.mit.edu> paulc@atoll.mit.edu (Paul Cloke) writes:
>In article <1992Sep29.100141.24577@gserv1.dl.ac.uk>, atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell) writes:
>> 
>> After reading the teams for Australia and India here's (IMHO) the worst
>> England XI since 1970.
>> 
>> 2. Wayne Larkins (Northants)
>> 
>> Shown to be completely out of his depth in the 1979 world cup, 
>> played in a few tests without much success.

Easily the most mystifying selection of the 90-91 tour to Australia. He had
never shown anything of great substance at Test level yet was picked at an 
age when most players are considering retirement.
>> 10. Mike Selvey (Middlesex)
>> 
>> Took 3 wickets in 20 balls in his debut test against West Indies in 76
>> but didn't do a lot after that.

I hope that you're posting a copy of this to the Grauniad!

>> 
>> I've tried not to pick players who got the odd test against the
>> west indies or agianst the 89 aussies, only players who were given
>> a chance and failed to take it.

I think that at least three names from the 89 series are worthy of mention:
Kim Barnett- Made a streaky 70 or so in his first knock. Displayed enough
             faults in his technique in this innings that he became easy meat
             for an Australian side which prided itself on doing its homework
             on the English batmen. Was also touted as a key weapon with his
             legspin which proved to be of park cricket quality or worse.
Tim Curtis-  Makes a huge number of runs on the county circuit but truly was
             exposed in the few outings he had.
Phil Newport-Now talk about hype for a player. Was expected to run right 
             through the Aussie batting in the first Test after picking up a
             bagfull against them on a very poor track at Worcester in a leadup
             game. Bowled a very poor length and line. Clearly not the worst
             bowler in the last 20 years but probably the most disappointing.

Paul Jarvis and Martin Moxon go close. I fully accept your point when it comes
to players like John Stephenson who weren't really given a chance.

>> I would have picked Hick but he's too good a bowler and fielder for this team!

And no mention of 'Deadly' Derek Pringle! His legion of 'fans' will be 
devastated.

Cheers,
Russ '!Ted_Dexter' Fiedler
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From: geoffb@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (G Berry)
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 06:09:34 GMT

5912ramasubr@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>Here is my ALL World team of 80's
>1.Gavaskar
>2.Greenidge
>3.Richards
>4.Miandad
>5.Gower
>6.M.Crowe
>7.Kapil Dev
>8.Imran Khan
>9.Dujon
>10.Hadlee
>11.Qadir

My team is:

Gavaskar, Greenidge, Richards, Chappell, Miandad, Border, Imran, Marsh,
Hadlee, Marshall, Lillee. 

Rationale:

Chappell and Border clearly achieved more than Gower and Crowe, though
admittedly Gower is better to watch than Border, he is not deserving of
a place in this team based on his achievements.

The records of Marshall and Lillee are far superior to Kapil and Qadir, and
after all the 80's were the years of the pace bowlers so why pick a spinner?

I'd argue that Marsh, Bari, Kirmani and Smith were all better keepers than
Dujon. Knott was better than all of these but did he play in the 80's? 
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From: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk (A.M.T. Bell)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Best English XI since 1970
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:37:41 GMT
Reply-To: atb@gserv1.dl.ac.uk
Organization: Daresbury Laboratory, UK


After the worst England XI since 1970 here's the best one (IMHO)

1. Geoff Boycott (Yorkshire)

2. Graham Gooch (Essex)

3. David Gower (Leicestershire/Hampshire)

4. Derek Randall (Nottinghamshire)

5. Tony Greig (Sussex)

6. Ian Botham (Somerset/Worcestershire/Durham)

7. Alan Knott (Kent) (wk)

8. Ray Illingworth (Yorkshire/Leicestershire) (captain)

9. Derek Underwood (Kent)

10. John Snow (Sussex/Warwickshire)

11. Bob Willis (Surrey/Warwickshire)

12th man Mike Gatting (Middlesex)

I would have liked to have made Brearley captain but there was no way he
could hold a place as a batsman in such a team. Others who were
considered by the selectors were Amiss, Lamb, Hendrick, Bob Taylor
and Edmonds.

any comments folks?

tony bell                 ! keep on running   live long and prosper
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atb@uk.ac.dl.gserv1       ! bill murray - ghostbusters
From: mcbean@vax.oxford.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: "We are the world " Team of 80's
Date: 5 Oct 92 11:14:34 GMT
Followup-To: rec.sport.cricket
Organization: Oxford University VAX 6620

In article <4OCT199217281776@zeus.tamu.edu>, fdm0886@zeus.tamu.edu (Faraaz) writes:
> ... I agree, there's no room for both kapil and Imran on this team. 
> Obviously Kapil would have to go as Imran is an added asset as the
> obvious choice for captain.
> 
> .....Faraaz

Pray tell why is Imran Khan the obvious choice for captain?  Much as I have my
problems with Viv, in terms of achievement he and Clive Lloyd were the test
captains of the '80s in terms of win/loss records.  In fact one of Viv's 
lesser known records is that he is supposed to be the only long term captain
who has never lost a series (12 I think).  Of course I'm sure to be corrected
:-).

I know the counter-argument to that is the talent he had at his disposal, but
in the 1960's the Windies team was just as talented, but sufferred from weak
captaincy.  Just think, Sobers, Conrad Hunte, Seymour Nurse, Rohan Kanhai,
3W's, Wes Hall, Charlie Griffith and Lance Gibbs should have been a world
champion side but weren't.

Imran certainly did a marvelous job for Pakistan, but doesn't he and Viv stand
accused of the same flaw, an autocratic manner?

McBean
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