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From: Karen.Durfey@p10.f17.n3400.z1.fidonet.org (Karen Durfey)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Ozone
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 92 17:08:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:3400/17.10 - MET NET BBS, Helena MT

Gayle and I enjoyed the walk through SuperPaint today, thanks to your extra time.  It is definitely one we would like to pursue further when time permits.  Assuming, of course, that I can keep the ruffles out of all our eyes so we can see what we're doing.  They can be quite bothersome, you know.  The ozone layer is a great place for that program since it is so far-out!!  See you Friday.

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From: David.Webb@f2030.n391.z1.fidonet.org (David Webb)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: OUTCOME BASED EDUCATION
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 92 16:10:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:391/2030 - Rogers Public Schoo, Rogers AR

In a message to David Webb <10-29-92 21:48> Todd Beeck wrote:

TB> outcomes.  It seems that our job will be to determine how
TB> best to meet
TB> these outcomes and then proving to the state that students
TB> are achieving
TB> those outcomes.  I sounds to me like we are to teach to a
TB> different type
TB> of test.  Am I off base here?

  I am not sure if there will be a "test" in the terms of standardized tests 
as we now use them.  From what I read, that will probably vary depending on 
one's location.

TB> Also,  I heard that a student doesn't move on to the next
TB> skill untill
TB> mastery of the last one.  Is that right?  If so how do I
TB> keep track of
TB> 145 students.  What do I do with the ones that never master
TB> skill one?

  Keeping track of multiple students will probably be delegated to an 
administrative computer program.  As for the ones that cannot master certain 
skills, I don't know.  One alternative would be to re-institute track-based 
programs, up-grade various vocational programs, and give these students a 
viable alternative to the primarily academic programs that a lot of public 
schools presently offer.  
 

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From: Mike.Sadofsky@f385.n322.z1.fidonet.org (Mike Sadofsky)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: School Choice
Date: Tue, 03 Nov 92 20:46:01 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:322/385 - Natick High BBS, Natick MA

What if kids - even little ones - could choose their teachers?
What if kids - from 4 to 19 - could make the budgets for their schools?
What if kids - all ages - could write the rules that govern their school?
What if kids - like adults - could learn what they want to when they want?
What if kids could run their own school?


They can.  And they do.  At Sudbury Valley School.

In a time when school choice is the number one issue in education, Sudbury
 Valley offers a really different choice.  And it has a track record,
 thoroughly documented.

Sudbury Valley is celebrating its 25th anniversary this year.  Its program is
being widely studied, and used as a model for schools in many communities.

Would you like to know morw?  Ask me or look for books from the Sudbury Valley
 School Press.  The school and the press can be contacted directly at #2 Winch
Street, Framingham, MA 01701, telephone (508) 877-3030


Mike 

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From: Velma.Jennings@f333.n280.z1.fidonet.org (Velma Jennings)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: MODEM
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 18:23:11 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:280/333 - Sound Advice BBS, Gladstone MO

Heath, I don't knoe if this message was entered right or not. I put
something on the works I"m going to try to past it.  HERE GOES!!
Heath, I sure did want to send messages on the modem last night but I,,
I did not understand it.  each time I tried to do something it would say
error or no messages for you velma. Ilike this but, I don" understand
it.  Start writing the page to say something about our statement we put
on the modem. I think it sy upo pose to be a group project. IT WORKED!!
IF I HAD MORE TIME TO WORK WITH I WOULD BE DANGEROUS.

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From: Jeff.Shoub@f734.n153.z1.fidonet.org (Jeff Shoub)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: DAYLIGHT SAVINGS: OTHER COUNTRIES??
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 18:11:18 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:153/734 - ED-NET 9600, Vancouver BC

We do in Canada.



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From: Taieri.Beach.School@p5.f505.n770.z3.fidonet.org (Taieri Beach School)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Calling England/Europe
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 09:45:48 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:770/505.5 - Southern Vortex, Dunedin

 > Children from 11 and 12 years old have to learn
 > Englisch here; I think the
 > twelvers could do some writing.
 > Groetings,
 >           Guus.
 Dear Guus
 My name is Thomas Clark and I live in New Zealand and my teacher's name is Robin Bain. I have nine people in my class,
would your children like to write to us?  A bit of science for your children- when you pull the plug in the bath, which way does the water go out, clock wise or anti clock wise?
 Here are the people that you can write to
Lizzy Denton, Tony Scott, Rebecca Mctainsh, Thomas Clark, Corey Hope, Cara Hepburn, Laura White, Cathy Denton, Sabrina Fraser,


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From: Kevin.Mccluskey@f2.n255.z1.fidonet.org (Kevin Mccluskey)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: TELECOM AND NETWORKI
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 21:11:59 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:255/2 - NEWBED, Fredericton NB

Your prices are close to ours except that Cd's are available >
for less than $100.00 Canadian.  Are sound boards available in your area?  I 
have a sound board at home and it is great for games.  I do not have enough 
memory at home to laod Windows so I don't know what the sound board will do 
for Windows yet....Christmas is coming?  Could be that my son would like a 
few Megs for a present???  I will post another message off-line from work 
next week when my free Cd's have arrived. Is your Cd-Player external or 
internal?  I have used Commute!  Wow you got it to work!  I used it a few 
times but did not like the file transfer options so I never used it again. 
Is it version 7.1 of Pc-Tools?  I just received an up-grade offer for Version 
8.0 for $69.95.  I'll pass for time being until someone tells me I can't live 
without it>  Got to run but I'll post another mesg next week.

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From: Robin.Bain@p5.f505.n770.z3.fidonet.org (Robin Bain)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Adopt-a-River
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 16:02:31 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:770/505.5 - Southern Vortex, Dunedin

Greetings Larry- yes we would like to be a part of the project. We have a small rural school and my class ages are from 8yrs to 12 yrs. The Taieri River is 2km from the school and we have already received offers of assistance from the local catchment board. I have not done a river study before and would welcome any material you have on the way such a study would be structured. We live near the mouth of the river and several of the parents are fishermen who moor their boats in the mouth of the river. One pa




rents had his boat run onto the bar last week and it sank- a total loss. The local community are holding a shipwreck dance next week to raise funds to help the family.
Kia ora


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From: Jack.Crawford@f620.n260.z1.fidonet.org (Jack Crawford)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: **Important Announcement!
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 21:05:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:260/620 - W-FL Teacher Resour, Stanley NY



           *********IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT***************

            The K12net Council of Coordinators appoints

                            Carol Hooper
                            at 1:381/64

          As the North American (Zone 1) Moderator of the
           K12net Teacher Chat Conference (K12.TCH_CHAT)

          ************************************************

The primary responsibility of a K12net Moderator is to maintain an
ongoing editorial and managerial presence to focus the activities in
his/her echo to meet the curricular needs of the K12net community.

Congratulations, Carol!

=jack= Crawford
K12net Echo Moderator Coordinator

 * SLMR 2.1a * 

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From: Tom.Barner@f120.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Barner)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: File area
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 92 22:02:08 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/120 - SpaceMet Internet, Amherst MA

Bill, the file area on Spacemet it file area 5 and the brown bag
science experiments are in BBSCI(#of experiment).PRO
ie. BBSCI1.PRO, BBSCI2.PRO, etc . If you cannot get them there
send a stamped self addressed mailia envelope to me at
Tom Barner, Mason-Rice School, 149 Pleasant Street, Newton Centre,
MA 02159 U.S.A. I'd be happy to send you the set of what we did last year. We are also working with a publisher who will be putting together
a booklet for teachers. Let me know if you want them. Tom Barner 
TBARNER@RCN.mass.edu


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From: Brian.Henderson@f470.n161.z1.fidonet.org (Brian Henderson)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: CABLE AVAILABILITY/USE
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 19:34:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:161/470 - IISME-NET, Berkeley CA

I am a teacher at Sacred Heart and Saint Theresa Schools in Oakland. As you may have guessed, these are private Catholic schools. This message is twofold. Our financial situation is poor, like most other schools, and I wanted all private school teachers to know that, after a long hard fight, Cable Oakland has agreed to provide free service to our school. All teachers at private schools should look into the possibility of the same. Questions?Comments? The second part of my message is thus: How do teachers c
urrently utilize Cable in the classroom. I would appreciate advice about programs, channels etc. that have been used successfully.

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From: Helen.Sternheim@f109.n321.z1.fidonet.org (Helen Sternheim)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Grant and Freebee Info
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 92 08:07:51 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:321/109 - Pioneer Valley PCUG, Amherst MA

Channel 1 will be starting an information service on the availablity of Grants  
for teachers and schools.

It will also be used to post information on free materials for the classroom.

It will be moderated by Tom Barner.

Please add your own favorite sources for free materials, and any grants that  
you think have a wide appeal. 



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From: Tom.Hardman@p0.f23.n105.z1.fidonet.org (Tom Hardman)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Re: Welcome to K-12Net!
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 19:43:28 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:105/23.0 - HI TECH TOOLS / Lib, Portland OR

Hey, Hey Phil!  I found you here in Futureland.  Thanks for the update 
on the flight museum.  I really appreciate your working with the project 
groups.  I suppose it's to be expected that with projects of this 
magnitude some will sputter.  I have been challenged all year (so far) 
to get Bret to focus on anything internal, to challenge himself on more 
open-ended stuff.  Slight progress, but I have doubts that he'll come up 
with a meaningful project this time around.  As for Daniel (I'm assuming 
you meant Daniel Busser), this is a boy who can do it but may not care 
to do it.  I'm hoping the added pressure of having to satisfy peer 
expectations on project completion may spur him to try something.  I 
won't give up on either of them, but I won't lose sleep over it.  Thanks 
for your extra time with Steven.  That boy could use a large dose of 
self-esteem.
     Some unrelated matters.  Kathy says "Hi."  She thinks it's neat 
that I'm talking with you this way.  I do too.  Also, we're selling our 
house and thinking of an apartment in Portland for a change of setting 
and pace.  Any suggestions on where to look, what to avoid, etc?
     Have a great V-day yourself.
Tom



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From: Terry.Bowden@f20.n772.z3.fidonet.org (Terry Bowden)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: K12 media exposure -2
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 92 23:05:48 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:772/20 - IBM NZ Ltd Gate, Auckland

continued . . .
ATTRACTIVE
 
He worked as an educationist in Papua New Guinea before being appointed
principal of the Taieri school two years ago, and read about FidoNet in
a magazine article. "The word 'inexpensive' attracted his interest 
initially," he said. The article was written by New Zealand's FidoNet
Coordinator,(sic) Mr Terry Bowden of Auckland - an IBM computer engineer.
 
Mr Bowden supplied the principal with the information he needed to get 
the school on to FidoNet.
 
Coincidentally the Taieri school, with 17 other schools in Otago, had
just completed an information technology familiarisation program
called Project Beacon. During the project the schools explored the use
of computer and communications systems such as electronic mail.
 
GOOD NEWS
 
Mr Bain said that once he got K12 going he sent an E-mail (electronic
mail) message to all the schools in the Beacon Project saying: "It 
works, give it a go." As a result, six Otago primary schools got onto
the system and at least three more, he said, intended to do so.
 
That is good news for Mr Bowden, who had gone to a lot of trouble to
get K12 down to Otago from the International FidoNet gateway he runs
in Auckland. Mr Bowden made K12 available to New Zealand schools 
about a year ago. Contrary to his expectations, however, it did not
take off straight away. A few North Island schools got involved 
initially, but they did not show any real enthusiasm. He believes the
Taieri Beach School, 45km south of Dunedin, has lit the torch.
 
"The most exciting thing has been that the major success has been 
with primary schools in the Otago region," said Mr Bowden. With a
thing like K12, a person outside the school environment beats his
head against a brick wall, he said. "But once you get one or two
schools doing it - and the teachers become enthusiastic - that's
when it really starts to mushroom."
 
If he is right, it seems the Taieri Beach children and their
principal, Mr Bain, have done something quite remarkable.
 



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From: Sheila.King@f315.n103.z1.fidonet.org (Sheila King)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: USING THE NET            
Date: Sun, 08 Nov 92 18:37:00 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:103/315 - Castle of the Four , Diamond Bar CA

Dear Penryn,

You posted a message to ALL in the K12_Teacher Chat area and said:

-> People, please don't make personal replies on the net.

This is precisely one of the purposes of the Teacher Chat area...to
permit personal replies. In the other subject area echos it is probably
not appropriate. But as this is a FidoNet based Network, and Not an
Internet based one, many if not most of the users of this area do not
have access to private Netmail. I'm afraid if you are going to try to
persuade users not to post private messages in this particular area,
that you are fighting an uphill battle.

Sheila
coming to you from Diamond Bar, CA (in Los Angeles County)
                                                                                                       

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From: Ann.Trewern@p6.f505.n770.z3.fidonet.org (Ann Trewern)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Continuing Introductions No 3.
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 16:18:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:770/505.6 - Southern Vortex, Dunedin

Hi my name is Carlee Brook. I am nine years old and I am
in Std 3 my hobbies are basketball,acting and art I have 4
people in my family and one cat he is a male.His name is
Felix I am looking for a pen pal.
         Please write soon from Carlee Brook.


  Hi my name is Michael Denton I am 10 years old I am in std
  3.My hobbies are Rugby and Cricket I have 7 people in my
  family 4 boys and 1 girl I have no pets and I am looking
  for a pen pal.
                   Please write soon from Michael Denton.



Hi my name is James O'Dea I am 9 years old I am in std 2 my
hobbies are Rugby and Cricket I have 5 people in my family
and I have 1 pet it is a cat called Sidney and I am looking
for a pen pal.
                Please write soon from James O'Dea.



 Hi,my name is Dominique Mcclintock.  I'm 9 years old and
I'm in Std 3.My hobbies are swimming, playing with my
friends, and reading. My friends names are   Greer, and
Sarah W.
        Please write back,
                          Dominique.


My name is Daniel Rochford.  I'm 8 years old and I'm in
std 2 I would like a pen pal. My hobbies are playing games
and riding my bike.
                       from Daniel Rochford.


Hi! My name is Greer Braam and I'm 10 years old and in Std
3. My hobbies are Gymnastics, all other sports, reading,
playing on my tramp, playing with my friends which are Erin,
Dominique and Sarah.W and playing on my Sega. Please write
to me someone!

Write soon,
Greer Braam.


Hi!, my name is Erin Rowley I am 10 years old and am
looking for a penpal. My hobbies are swimming playing my
piano playing with my friends. My best friends are  Greer
Braam, Shelley Quinn, Sarah Wright and Dominique McClintock.
Can someone please write to me?

 Bye from Erin.

 There are also the following children....
Brodie Anderson  aged 10
Peter Leleifua  aged 10
Sarah McLennan  aged 10
Samuel Barton  aged 9
Paddy Heads  aged 9
Steven Mosley  aged 9
Charlotte Oskam  aged 9

  These children will be leaving the school at the end of
this year and are all 10 -11 years old.
Matthew Barton
David Ford
Kim Field
Bridget Heads
Maria Kubala
Makaleta Leleifua
Jane O'Dea
Abby Pont and Michelle Rochford.

Hello Phil,
          All the children who wanted  to write  a special introduction have done so and those who were a bit shy about it I have just listed their names below the special introductions.Those in the second list will only be with us for another 6 weeks as they more on to another school at the end of their Grade 5 year .... called Standard 4 here.
We have had a very hot day here for Dunedin at this time of the year... 24 degrees. Everyone is sweltering!
Regards Ann.


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From: Julie.Rosenoff@f6.n346.z1.fidonet.org (Julie Rosenoff)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: WA State Student Mock Election Results
Date: 5 Nov 92 05:46:09 GMT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:346/6 - Macs BBS, Spokane WA

I coordinated a student mock-election in ten different schools 
in Washington State.  We had 1476 students voting, and here were
their presidential vote.  (All results were sent to me e-mail through 
a network called Peacenet (I*EARN); it was fun to send and receive
 the messages!)  
 
Total Percentages:                    
    
Perot:      38%
Clinton:    36%
Bush:       24%
Other:       1%
 
 
In my school Clinton won...
 
Julie Rosenoff


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From: John.Feltham@f706.n640.z3.fidonet.org (John Feltham)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Lost mail
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 13:58:02 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:640/706 - Coral Sea, Townsville Qld Australia

Olsem wanem Robin,

Mipela bakim yu wanpela pas bipo.

Mipela tinktink yu no kisim dispela pas. Sapos you laik lukim long dis
nupela pas?

Mi ritim bepo, Mipela computer tisa long wan pel hi skul long Townsville.
Dispel sikul igat 500 pikinini man tasol, i nogot pikinini meri! Sikul
igat Grade 8 - 12. Dispela sikul em i Katolik Kristin Brata Sikul.

Mipela tinktink bis istap 10 minuts long sikul tasol. Sikul igat wanpela
bikpela swimpool, ol i kolim olympic pool.

Asde, ol Year 12 studen i kisim wanpela bikpela pati long en. Na igat
planti toktok long bikpela man long bisnis, na sikul bosman. Ol i sindaun
na kaikai planti gutpela kaikai, na lolly wara ..... na planti toktok!
Mipela kisim haus long 10.30.

Year 12 exam i stat tumorrow (sp? eh, sori tumas, pisin bilong mipela i no
strong tumas!). Mipela, igat planti wok long markim pepa bilong ol studen.

Mi hopim yupela kisim dispela pas.

Eh Robin, yugat tupela pisin stori long cassette, long "Tripela liklik
pik" na narapela stori long "Liklik redpela hat", o nogat? Mipela igat.
Sapos yu laikim wanpela kopi, nau yu ritim address long sikul bilong
yupela, na mi putim cassette insait long pos.

Lukim yu bihin.

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From: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Subject: american federation o
Reply-To: "nigel allen" <nigel.allen@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: k12
Date: 4 Nov 92 21:09:03 EST

Here is a press release from the American Federation of Teachers.

 American Federation of Teachers Hails Clinton Victory
 To: National Desk, Political and Labor Writers
 Contact: Janet Bass of the American Federation of Teachers,
          202-879-4554

   WASHINGTON, Nov. 4   -- American Federation of Teachers 
President Albert Shanker today hailed Bill Clinton's election, 
saying, "Americans sent a clear and thunderous message that
they want genuine change and a better life for children and their
families."
   "Instead of poisoning the education well with an agenda that
focuses on private school choice, a Clinton-Gore administration will
be committed to genuine education reform.  Instead of paying lip
service to improving health care, a Clinton-Gore administration will
be committed to genuine health care reform so all Americans will
receive affordable health insurance.  Instead of merely talking about
family values, a Clinton-Gore administration will proudly sign family
and medical leave legislation," Shanker said.
   He also hailed the defeat in Colorado of a proposal to provide
state vouchers for private school choice.  "This repudiation
demonstrates clearly that Americans want taxpayer dollars used in
more constructive ways to improve public schools," Shanker said.
   The AFT represents 796,000 teachers, professors, paraprofessionals
and school-related personnel, nurses and health care workers, state
and municipal workers.
 -30-
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From: James.Bannan@f369.n633.z3.fidonet.org (James Bannan)
Newsgroups: k12.chat.teacher
Subject: Albany / Australia
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 21:22:36 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 3:633/369 - City Limits BBS, Boronia Vic

To all the kids at Albany Elementary.
Well how have you all been?  Did you know that Australia has two main islands and a number of smaller territorial islands.  The two islands vary greatly in size with the larger one being referred to as the Mainland.  The smaller second island to the extreme south is the island State of Tasmania.  The State of Victoria where I live is 227 600 (227 600) square kilometers in size.  1 mile is about 1.6 kilometers so 1 sq mile would be 1.6 km X1.6 km = 2.56 sq km = 1 sq mile.
227 600 / 2.56 =   well you work it out on your calculators.  Is this bigger or smaller than Ohio?  How many people live in Ohio?
Cheers  Jimbo Down Under


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