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From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: Re: Regional Differences in manners (was Re: Lane Splitting)
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 16:06:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

|> In article <17g56cINN5r@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> egreen@east.sun.com 
|> (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
|> 
|> >In article 92Aug26084434@fluent.UUCP, bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby) writes:

stuff deleted

|> Anyone else have "rider tips" for people visiting their areas?

in pittsburgh (and vicinity) some people seem to think that oncoming traffic
turning left after a red light has the right of way.  when stopped at a red light,
if there's a guy across the intersection who wants to turn left (across your
path), ~30% chance he will try to turn IN FRONT of you when the light changes.

if you're on a bike and at the front of the line, beware of these guys not
seeing you and ramming you in the side (never happened to me, but a few near
misses).

axel
From: R.Collins@newcastle.ac.uk (R. Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: I want my DOD number!!! (you better let him have one...)
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:03:33 GMT
Organization: Computing Laboratory, U of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK NE1 7RU.


In article <1992Aug28.210334.24662@news.nd.edu>, Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift) writes:
>Ive been reading this group for a while...

but not having much success understanding it
>
>Rich Swift
>DOD # "insert here"
>
on which part of your anatomy is this written, Rich, or is that Dick?


>Give me a number, and be CREATIVE about it (I know, this is asking a lot
>from you mindless, half-vegetable computer jocks,but go or it!).
>And dont mind trying to insult me, 'cause you cant you looser(s).
From: bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us (Bob Pasker)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wheelin' and dealin'
Date: 25 Aug 92 09:00:45 PDT
Organization: Disorganized Organization

In article <1992Aug25.133606.16697@worldbank.org>, aki <aki@atlas.worldbank.org> writes:
> In article <1992Aug24.184515.347@halfdome.sf.ca.us> Bob Pasker,
> bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us writes:
> Good idea Bob, but if the dealoroids (TM) for motorcycles come from the same
> mold that car dealers come from, if you call them they'll say something like
> "Well Sir, it's our policy NOT to quote prices over the phone, come on in 
> and well talk.   I'm sure we can work something out."  Shit like that really
> pisses me off.

no prob, just counter with: "so i guess, then, that you're not interseted in
selling a bike today.  no problem, i have 7 quotes already and 5 more dealers
to call. do you want to lose a sale?"

the other trick they might pull is to say call them back after you've got
the lowest price and he'll "work something out."  say, "sorry, i'm making
14 phone calls, one to each dealer and then a return call to the salesman who's
going to sell me the bike.  do you want to be that salesman?"

-- 
-- bob pasker
-- bob@halfdome.sf.ca.us 
--
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: essbaum@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Alexander Essbaum)
Subject: HOV lanes
Date: Tue, 01 Sep 1992 17:20:06 GMT
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester


what are HOV lanes?  what does HOV stand for?

axel
From: Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu (Richard A. Swift)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: He ALMOST make it...
Date: 3 Sep 92 15:01:26 GMT
Organization: University of Notre Dame, Aero. & Mech. Eng.
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A6CB93D2A401401C@rswift.aero.nd.edu>
X-Xxdate: Thu, 3 Sep 92 16:05:06 GMT
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In article <1854i8INN58@sixgun.East.Sun.COM> Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher,
egreen@east.sun.com writes:
>Richard Swift, your mail bounces like a bad check.  Send me a valid
>e-mail address.
>
>3030:Richard A. Swift:IN:Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu
>
>---
>Ed Green, former Ninjaite |I was drinking last night with a biker,
>  Ed.Green@East.Sun.COM   |and I showed him a picture of you.  I said,
>DoD #0111  (919)460-8302  |"Go on, get to know her, you'll like her!"
> (The Grateful Dead) -->  |It seemed like the least I could do...

Da da daaaa (sound of trumpets in the background, building in
crescendo..). 

This is truly an honor, being addressed directly by a DoD GOD  (and one
recognized as a righteous character no less). Mr. Ed ( if I may so
address you Sir), I would be more than welcome to provide you with
adequate addresses to end the current email quandary. I'm surprised that
my normal address "Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu" didn't work.... but here are
some others:


rich@aerodec.aero.nd.edu

swift@cartan.math.nd.edu

rswift@bach.helios.nd.edu

swift@ndcvx.cc.nd.edu


I look forward to hearing from you, oh great one.


(Yes...Yes....YES!!!!)


Later,

Rich Swift,  DoD #3030 (tentative, awaiting requisite confirmation from
the KotL)
From: aal@broue.rot.qc.ca (Alain Hebert)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Thoughts on VMAX
Date: 3 Sep 92 02:40:26 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Groupe de Recherche Operationnelle en Telecommunication (ROT)
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

	Hi!  I just finish a ride from Chicago, IL to Montreal, QC CAN with my
	'87 VMax (Hmmm it was fun)...  Sorry about the Km reference...

	Driving Position:
	
		Because of the sitting position and the way the seats are
		designed.  It has for effect that my backpack was sitting
		weighless on the passenger bench.  I was able to lean on the on
		the hood (Yep! Its a false kind of gas tank, you remove it to
		have access to the air intake and fuses...  The Gas tank is
		located under the seat and hold around ~2.5 gallon I think(?)) 
		or sit back.  Very confortable ride, and for those who hates
		those throttle squezzer (cruise control with a twist(?)) it hold
		very well in place and keep stable speed...  One downside do:
		God my but hurt (8-{...

	Speed:	I don't know if its me or what but I weight around ~240 pounds
		plus my backpack ~60 plus the weight of the bike ~550.  I was
		able in Ontario 401 to get from 120km to 190km in a blast with a
		slight delay when cranking the trottle.

	Control:
		Sure that you don't take on a exit at >80Km but its surely
		very stable in roughter highway curve...

		When doing my wake-up drags, the rought of the engine and the
		road where starting to be feeled around 190Km...  I didn't try
		faster because of my load...

	Look:	Who said anything about Ugly!  I describe it to people as being
		a Freak bike...  You don't know what it is but its all there!
		I might have bad taste but for me it got something special that
		I like about it, maybe it the placement of the handle, the way
		it seems to lean back on his rear tire...  BTW:  I loved to get
		my hand on one those first Katana 1100 (with that kind of
		eagle beak(?) front).

	Gas:	~1.63 gallons for 100Km...  I got 10 or so pitstop samples but
		I didn't have time to analyse it yet...  If somebody want a copy
		of the datas...

	Passenger:
		For been 1 time a passenger on my friend VMX, its a very ackward
		place to be...  Like some Harley its design to be a place for
		your girlfriend...  (Sorry girls but your boys don't fit up
		there...)  Its more confortable (and less stressfull) to be
		tied up to a Boeing 747 wing...  Seriously, I was more
		confortable on a CBR600 (it was serious fun when leaning)...

	Have fun (with no rain)...

-----
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From: geoff@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Geoff Caras)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: ST1100 impressions
Summary: Silver ST1100 is 91
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:40:29 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.114647.15887@cbnewsh.cb.att.com>, wolf@mt.att.com (Thomas Wolf) writes:
> Thanks everyone for replying to my queries regarding the ST.  One last question
> I forgot to ask in my last post: what colors is the bike available in?  The
> dude at the bike shop tried to tell me that the new models were only available
> in red - which, in my opinion, is the worst of the three colors I've seen on
> the road (others being black and silver.)  I know that originally the ST was
> only available in black ('91 model?)  If the red ones are '92 (or are those
> the '93s already?) what year is the silver-colored one?
> 
The silver is the '91 model. I have just under 8K miles on mine (silver, '91). 
I have had a couple of false neutrals in between 4th and 5th gears but other wise
I have found the shifting to be quite good if you shift positively. If you shift 
lightly it does not respond very well, at first I had some minor problems with this.
I think I had it pop out of 2nd once. I think the suggestion of shifting and holding
it is a great one, I have also been told this by racers (Reg Pridmore) at one of the
CLASS sessions.

All in all the ST is the best bike I have ever owned/ridden.... Call me crazy but
I like the bike to be both smooth AND quiet. I hope this does'nt revoke my DOD number
but then again .....



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From: elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM (elaine 'BEANO' leffler)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: did you have an INCIDENT with a gold van?
Date: 25 Aug 1992 22:34:01 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: ba
Reply-To: elef@smarmy.Corp.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: smarmy.corp.sun.com
Keywords: van gets nasty with biker, at 880/280 interchange

i pulled this message from an internal mailing list, and spoke with the
author briefly, asking him if he's going to file a police report about 
this incident.

he is trying to find the motorcyclist involved in the incident before
going to the cops, to back up his version of what he saw.  he couldn't
get close enough to read the license plate on the motorcycle.

if this was you or someone you know, get in touch with jim lockwood
at lockwood@acidqueen.eng.sun.com (415) 336-1125.

and watch out for that VAN....

elef

In article 17e8l5INNgg9@smli.Eng.Sun.COM, lockwood@acidqueen.Eng.Sun.COM (Jim Lockwood) writes:
>My vote for this weeks BOTWA goes to the owner/driver of a gold
>colored Chevrolet Van, Illinois license "BADE" who deliberately
>tried to run a motorcyclist off of I-280 last evening around 
>7:00PM near the 880/280 interchange.  
>
>I watched the driver of this van pull along side the motorcycle and
>suddenly change lanes into its lane twice.  I also watched in
>amazement as the driver accelerated furiously in an apparent attempt
>to run into the back of the motorcycle.
>
>I have NF idea what preceded my witnessing this that so aroused
>the van driver to such acts of stupidity, but nothing could have
>justified the potential for harm the driver created for the motorcycle
>rider.


     Elaine 'beano' Leffler     North American Solution Center
         elef@smarmy           Sun Microsystems Computer Corp.
    elef@smarmy.corp.sun.com	       (415) 336-5142
  **...........................................................**

    your sweet little cupcake, baked with the batter from HELL....

   "...technology marches on - and makes 150-mph motorcycles for
    15-mph beginners' brains."	_motorcyclist_






Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,alt.tv.mst3k
From: dhawk@netcom.com (David Hawkins)
Subject: sidecar racing?
Date: Fri, 04 Sep 92 03:02:00 GMT
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Distribution: na
Keywords: sidecars

Question to rec.motorcycles:
For those of us who are Mystery Science Theater 3000 fans, there's been
a mystery that maybe someone here can clear up.  MST covered a movie
called 'sidehackers' - which was about sidecar racing.  Does sidecar
racing still happen?

later, david
--
David Hawkins    dhawk@netcom.com   DoD#1113
All music jars when the soul's out of tune.  --  Miguel de Cervantes
From: conrad@pico.OZ (Conrad Drake)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: GSRX's and Posing
Date: 3 Sep 92 01:31:18 GMT
Reply-To: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Organization: QPSX Communications
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

randy@ninja.megatek.uucp (Randy Davis) writes:
: 
: |I'm not knocking the GSRX or the people who *ride* them. I am knocking the
: |squids who pose on them and zip down Main St. USA dressed in neon with their
: |dates on the back on Friday nights. 
: 
:   Of course, then there *are* people that tour on them.  Not for me, but then
: some people say the same for my ride...
:
I have a friend who tours on his TZR250.  He did say that it is good to
pick a destination with a bath, though.

Conrad Drake 

--
"There's something stirring in my loins and it isn't the spirit of Jesus"
                - Helen Razor, JJJ announcer, 1992.

Email: conrad@pico.qpsx.oz.au
Snail: QPSX Communications, Private Bag 24, West Perth 6005, Australia. 
Numbers:(ph) +61 9 324 1641, (fx) +61 9 321 2984 (dod) 0604
From: starfish@ucscb.UCSC.EDU (Smarter than the Average Blur)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: BRAND NEW CBR600F2 BREAKS AFTER 2 DAYS!!...(CBR600F2 Fuel Problems)
Keywords: Fuel Line
Date: 2 Sep 92 04:36:04 GMT
Organization: University of California; Santa Cruz
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucscb.ucsc.edu


In article <1992Sep1.203534.26256@news.weeg.uiowa.edu> jjwong@news.weeg.uiowa.edu (Joseph Wong) writes:
>Dear Follow F2 Owners or Any other Machanics Whose fix them:
>
>I recently had some problems with my F2's fuel line.  At first during
>regular riding periods I would notice a lack of power when giving some 
>throttle.  It almost seemed like the motorcycle was running out of gas
>or that the gas had water in it. Eventually the problem got so bad that
>the bike would die in the middle of traffic.  It seemed as if I had ran out
>of gas but the tank was still full.  Finally after many trips to the local
>cycle shop, they were able to determine that the fuel tank had a vacuum
>problem that prevented the gas to drain into the engine.  I don't know 
>how or why but the only cure was to drill a small hole in my gas tank.
>But all I know now is that my baby is finally running.
>If anyone has any ideas one why this happened or comments please e-mail 
>them to me at:  jjwong@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu
>
>Thanks
>
>Joe
>-- 
>----------------------Alone in the Great Midwest -------------------------
>
>Joseph Wong				East And West girls are fine
>University of Iowa			but there is nothing like a girl

This is exactly what happend to my 1992 F2. 400 miles after I got
it, I noticed a slight hesitation on the throttle. It got worse. Finally
it got so bad that my bike died on the freeway....a dangerous part
of the freeway with NO shoulder on the side of the road. Even worse
, it was on a BLIND turn.

It would start after several minutes and then die. This happend
over and over. Eventually I discovered that I could ride it real
slow(25 miles an hour. Looked really funny with cars zooming around
me at 75 MPH) and at that speed it wouldn't die.

Anyways, the bike was acting like it was running out of gas, but I had
a full tank.

This was just 48 hours after I bought the bike in LA and drove
it to Santa Cruz.

Anyways, I posted to this group to complain about it and that American
Honda wouldn't pay the $30 overnight bill to have the new tank
delivered. The thread was titled

"BRAND NEW CBR600F2 BREAKS AFTER 2 DAY!!! PLEASE READ!!!!"

This started the debate about how crappy Honda Corp of America
was for not helping a customer out quickly after the customer
spends $6000 on one of their brand new motorcycles. Most people
agreed that they should have paid it. Several did not think it
was their responsibility, several thought I was blaming the local
Honda dealer, several thought the dealer I bought it from should
pay for it, and several thought I should have supported my
local Honda dealer and that this whole thing wouldn't have
happend if I had. These last 3 groups of people missed the entire
point of the debate. They were, however, only the minority.

The bike was fixed a week later and I have not had any problems since.

-Alan Waterman (CBR600F2).
From: mojo@Caere.COM (Morris Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Date: 28 Aug 92 04:35:48 GMT
Organization: Caere Corp.

Isn't this fun?  :)

bowers@rigel.dfrf.nasa.gov (Al Bowers) writes:
>Sheesh.  Dana was making a joke guys.  If you didn't get it, then
>maybe you should learn to ride first?  Try taking CLASS or the
>California Superbike School, or even the MSF ERC...

Yeah, that's the ticket!  :)

You know, I never saw Dana's original post.  <grin>

I had great fun writing a reply to Al's posting, and was going to post
it, but it's gone forever, in the outgoing mail queue I guess.

I think it's cute when people get bent out of shape for using an
"imaginary" force to describe an effect.  Heck, physicists do it all
the time.  Changing your frame of reference is good for you once in a
while.  :)

See some of you at the Newark ERC I'm teaching Sept. 26 and 27!

Mojo
-- 
Morris Jones
Caere Corp.
mojo@caere.com
From: sievertl@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Lisa Sieverts)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Flat tire :  What do you do ?
Date: 28 Aug 92 22:21:37 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server

Make sure you always carry a patch kit.  BMW makes a nice one, ain't
even that expensive.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu (Paul S. Sears)
Subject: Re: I have my DOD number!!!
Reply-To: sears@tree.egr.uh.edu
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 19:23:51 GMT

In article <1992Aug30.221657.20962@news.nd.edu> Richard.A.Swift.1@nd.edu  
(Richard A. Swift) writes:
=>
=>I proudly proclaim myself Denizen of Doom number 555. Long Live the DOD!!!
=>
=>
=>Rich Swift,  DOD # 555         place .sig here

From the "offical" DoD list:

0555:Tracy Wiseman:CA:tracy@fiji.unify.com

Nice try... That number is currently in use.. Please check the number and try  
again... Thank you for playing....
--
Paul S. Sears                *  sears@uh.edu (NeXT Mail OK)
The University of Houston    *  suggestions@tree.egr.uh.edu (NeXT
Engineering Computing Center *  comments, complaints, questions)
NeXT System Administration   *  DoD#1967 '83 NightHawk 650SC 
          >>> SSI Diving Certification #755020059 <<<
"Programming is like sex: One mistake and you support it a lifetime."
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: lawrence@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Lawrence H. Smith,E20 Clark,56064,2726746)
Subject: Re: Riding Two on a CBR600F2
Originator: lawrence@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 14:55:30 GMT

 msbogd@ariel.lerc.nasa.gov (Michael S. Bogdanski) writes:
 ]Recently, I've carried a passenger on my '92 CBR600F2.  It seemed like a
 ]great idea until my crotch was smashed up against the gas tank while
 ]slowing and my privates were smashed, causing quite a bit of discomfort. 
 ]Also, I found that there was a tremendous extra load put on my arms while
 ]slowing down due to the increased weight from behind.  I weigh about 175lb
 ]and my passenger about 110lb.  Has anyone figured out a method for
 ]minimizing/eliminating these uncomfortable and painful encounters while
 ]carrying a passenger?
 
Well in addition to all the advice for having the co-rider brace on the
tank, I submit the following: go out and buy the leather pants you've been
pretending you could wait to get or "don't need". Not only do they prevent
or reduce road rash in a spill, they also keep your butt from sliding on
the seat. Better still, get your co-rider some too. Co-riders also stand
to lose flesh in a spill, and will apply less ball-crushing force if they
stick to the seat better.

Another big help you probably won't go for - a sissy bar really helps
co-riders. it gives them something to grab, and avoids the "flip off
the back" problem. It will also relieve the arm/wrist overload you complained
about. But, most sportbike folks seem to think they look bad, and we all 
know how important looks are...

Barring that, t'other thing that helps is to have your co-rider cling.
Stick. Stay right up on your back. Thus, when you stop, they are 
already up against you, and apply even pressure; this is as opposed to
the co-rider being set back a bit, and slamming into you suddenly
shortly after you apply the brakes. Co-riders not mutually in lust seem
to have the biggest problem with this one, being uncomfortable about
getting close; but it makes a great deal of sense for controlling the
bike regardless of lust or even lust potential. Apart from not slamming
into you, this is also the best way to ensure that they don't fall off
on acceleration, as they are busy clinging, and that they lean properly,
because they lean with you. 

...and at the risk of re-iterating, don't go looking for the edge. It has
moved, because you have an extra 100+ pounds behind you. Braking, turning,
accelerating have all changed. Limits have changed. And unless your 
co-rider can read your mind, doing things suddenly may scare them, and
turn them off from 'cycling. Concentrate on smoooooth, check with your
co-rider to see how they are doing, let them have fun.

-Lawrence Smith, MSC Computing Staff - E-20 Clark Hall(next to the donut room)
 lawrence@msc.cornell.edu lawrence@crnlmsc2.bitnet 5-6064 [(607)255-6064]
-Cats, Coffee, Chocolate... Vices to live by. DoD# i
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray)
Subject: Re: Double Yellow Blues
Organization: MicroUnity Systems Engineering Inc.
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 16:59:25 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.184303.2860@rs.com> hamid@west.rs.com writes:
>In article 65086@cup.portal.com, APLer@cup.portal.com (Roland Walter Besserer) writes:
>>
>>Just to keep you guys up-to-date. Crossing a double yellow line
>>on Highway 1, not even speeding while in the process of passing
>>a clunker doing 35mph - will set you back $217.
>
>did you get the ticket riding your RGV? you're lucky he didn't impound
>your bike.

Have you heard of someone actually getting their grey-market
bike impounded?  I've heard a lot people say that it COULD
happen, but no one who knows of it actually happening...




--
Eric Murray   ericm@microunity.com   Ride fast, die young, wear black leather.