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From: kamorgan@athena.mit.edu (Keith Morgan)
Subject:  TC Visa Renewal Info Request
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Distribution: na
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 18:28:27 GMT

I almost feel like apologizing for posting such a prosaic request at a
time of profound discussion in this group; however, I would like any
information from anyone who has renewed a TC-1 visa at the border. I
know that it is cheaper to do it when crossing and since I will be in
Ontario in November I would be very interested to hear if anyone has
renewed at an AIRPORT, particularly Toronto. I've heard that it is
relatively simple when crossing by car but is INS set up to handle
airport requests? 

Email answers are best but the group is ok.

Thanks.

Keith Morgan (who has no idea how he would vote)


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF])
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics,can.general
Subject: Re: Charlottetown accord (was "What happens on October 26?")
Date: 30 Sep 92 12:51:40 GMT
Organization: Math Faculty Computing Facility, University of Waterloo, Canada

mathew@unixg.ubc.ca (Mathew B Englander) writes:
>golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>>In Canada, (the US ?) you can ask for a copy of the Charlottetown
>>Accord by calling 1-800-561-1188...it is also pretty much all
>>in the Globe and Mail on Sept 1 (your university library might
>>carry it) and the Toronto Star around Sept 20 or so.
>
>If you get the Accord from the Globe and Mail, remember to read the
>corrections, which appeared a few days afterward (I think Sept. 4, 5,
>or 6.)

A friend of mine has been calling that number intermittently for a few days
now and always gets a busy signal or a recording saying "our offices are
closed now".

Perhaps someone could arrange to have it put into one of UTCS's or UUNET's
FTP sites?

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Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:6909 can.general:4615 tor.general:1289
From: Nigel.Allen@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Nigel Allen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.general,tor.general
Subject: Canadian politician discovers "junk faxes"
Date: 28 Sep 92 03:40:02 GMT
Organization: NDA, Toronto

Anyone who has a fax machine in Toronto (at least one that's listed in the
Business Connexions directory of fax numbers published by Telinfomatic Inc.)
has gotten used to receiving "junk faxes" promoting 976 numbers and
fax supplies.

Dennis Mills, the federal Member of Parliament for the Toronto constituency
of Broadview-Greenwood, has discovered the joys of junk faxing.

I have in front of me a fax from him dealing with the Canadian
constitutional referendum scheduled for October 26th. I suspect
that every Toronto-area fax machine listed in Business Connexions
will receive the same message from Mr. Mills.

I think the fax was probably sent out using the facilities of DFD
Telebroadcasting, a 976-number company that uses junk faxes and
automatic dialling and announcing devices to promote its 976 numbers.
Mr. Mills has also used automatic dialling and announcing devices
to promote himself.

(Despite the peculiar e-mail address I have, and the disclaimer which
follows, I'm actually located in Toronto.)
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From: segr@nessie.mcc.ac.uk (Simon Read)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Are foreignborn kids of UK citizens british?
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:50:29 GMT
Organization: Manchester Computing Centre

In article <4994@daily-planet.concordia.ca>,
anne@maxwell.concordia.ca (Anne Bennett) writes:

> That is correct (unless, I suppose, the "other country" insists that you
> somehow give up the UK citizenship -- I have heard that the US is funny
> that way, and does not like dual citizenships, but this is hearsay only).

Sorry to disappoint you but the US doesn't seem to have any
qualms about dual US/UK citizenship and once you have proved your
right to UK citizenship the only way to lose it seems to be
revoking it in front of the Consulate.

Losing the US one seems to be much easier I will grant you that.
They will revoke it if you simple take an oath of allegiance to
another nation.

I have been a dual US/UK national since birth, but until about 3
years ago always travelled on a US passport. I then acquired both
(with the full knowledge of both nations, indeed the British
Passport office had both passports at one time).

If there is enough interest I will dig out the documentation I
have from both nations and post it.

Simon Read
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From: 891406b@ace.acadiau.ca (STEPHEN BENNETT)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: gwen jacobs info?
Date: 27 Sep 92 18:08:57 GMT
Organization: Acadia University


 well i'm looking for any articles written on gwen or any personal opinions 
any of you may have on the whole issue/the court decision/the topless 
ralleys.......i know this is an old issue that has been beaten to death but 
any input would be greatly appreciated ....
thanx in advance
steve
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics,can.general
From: robinc@bnr.ca (Robin Collins)
Subject: Re: I was going to vote yes, BUT NOW ....
Organization: Bell-Northern Research Ltd., Ottawa, Canada
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 18:39:28 GMT

In article <1992Oct03.073303.1853@r-node.gts.org> marc@r-node.gts.org (Marc Fournier - Sys Admin) writes:
>>
>	Here Here...even though my written French is not as good
>as my ability to read it (pardonne moi?), I do agree with what is said
>
>Marc


Hey Marc,
did you use to live in Ottawa?

Or are you another Marc F?

Frank

Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:7077 can.politics:7671
From: michele@catnix.UUCP (Michele Simond)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics
Subject: Credibility vs separation threat (was: Globe and Mail article)
Date: 1 Oct 92 02:14:36 GMT
Organization: Rhinoceros, chargez!



>>The economic realities of separation are why we can vote NO relatively
>>safely...this referendum is not a vote on sovereignty, and in Quebec
>>it isn't being treated as a vote on sovereignty...it is being treated
>>as a vote on a deal.  Quebeckers aren't being asked if they accept or
>>reject Canada, so we shouldn't vote on the package as if they were.
>>Gerald

And you are perfectly right. Quebec is not asked to vote on
sovereignty but on a deal.  And this deal is nothing but more
poison... for all of us in Canada.

For once, the people of Canada has the chance to have a real
say in something.  At elections, we sign a blank cheque to
the party that has the most to offer.  But this is no election.
And we should sign no cheques.


--
Michele Simond ...... Traductrice ......  B.P.: michele@catnix.UUCP
(514) 671-8820				   OU :	michele%catnix@cam.org

La Liberte n'est pas une marque de yogourt.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics,can.general
From: rossw@sco.COM (Ross Wetmore)
Subject: Re: I was going to vote yes, BUT NOW ....
Organization: SCO Canada, Inc.
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 1992 03:00:08 GMT

In article <BvG31M.11s@sun3.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca> ward@sun17.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Ward) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.140652.13440@sco.COM> rossw@sco.COM (Ross Wetmore) writes:
>>  Given that civilization is an expression of the 'collective' actions of
>>individuals in surrendering certain 'individual' rights in order to live
>>and function cooperatively, ... 
>
>No that is not true.  You do not need to surrender any individual rights
>in order to function co-operatively.

 and ...

>As to individuality and freedom of action, any individual
>should have that in so far as it does not infringe on any other individual's
>rights.  Beyond that, he/she/it can do as they please.

  I rest my case.
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From: mathew@unixg.ubc.ca (Mathew B Englander)
Subject: Re: Appointments to the Supreme Court
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 23:52:08 GMT

golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:
>wetmore@theochem.uwaterloo.ca (Ross W. Wetmore) writes:

>>  The PM can refuse all name presented by the premiers, it is in the accord.
>>
>>  If there are no satisfactory names, then a temporary appointment is
>>to be provided for, it is in the accord.
>>
>
>Exactly how does this not cause an immense crisis and the politicization
>and delegitimization of the highest Court in the land the first time
>it happens. 

Deligitimization would happen only if the Constitution was not 
followed, or could not be followed. There is no reason to think 
that a temporary appointment would deligitimize the Court, as 
long as the Constitution made clear how, and when, such an 
appointment could be made.

There is a parallel here to the situation in the U.S. in 1974, when
Nixon resigned the presidency, and Ford took over. A few people
thought this would deligitimize the presidency because Ford had not
been elected either President or Vice-president. (He had been appointed,
as the U.S. Constitution provides, after the resignation of vice-
president Spiro Agnew.)

There was no constitutional crisis and the office of president retained
its legitimacy, because the Constitution provided for the situation
and the Constitution had been followed. The same would happen in Canada
if Charlottetown is approved and no premier submits a name acceptable
to the prime minister, causing a temporary appointment to be made.

>We are building in a appointment procedure that comes with a nuclear
>bomb, that we tear the judicial system of our country apart.

Please Gerald: I can put up with doom and gloom from either side, but
comparing Charlottetown to Hiroshima is going a little far.

Mathew Englander.
From: bj368@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike E. Romano)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Montreal Apartment Rates
Date: 3 Oct 1992 08:48:23 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


    I am planning to move to Montreal in a few months to
  study French and also pursue a writing project.  I am
  a graduate student.
  I am seeking an estimate on the rent I would pay for
  a minimum type room, a housekeeping room set up, for
  six months or so in the Montreal area, preferably near
  the university.
  Anyone with information on the apartment price range
  and how available, etc. would be appreciated.
  E mail can be sent to me at above address.
  merci      mike romano.


-- 
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            looks promising.... |-)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY)
Subject: Re: Canada's country code?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Sat, 26 Sep 1992 19:13:00 GMT

In article <1992Sep26.163250.37054@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>, uctlxpd@ucl.ac.uk (Peter Bartlett)        writes...
>carlos@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Carlos Borges) writes:
> 
>>Anyone know what Canada's "Country Code" is?
>>If I was in Europe, for example, and I wanted to call Canada,
>>what would the code be?  Does this differ from country to country?
>>Or is there a "Standard" country-code list somewhere?
>>-- 
>>   ///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
>>  // C. Miguel Borges               A.K.A.                Carlos M. Borges //
>> // an630@cleveland.freenet.edu                 carlos@garfield.cs.mun.ca //
>>///////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
> 
>Both Canada and the US share the code 1.  If in the UK, dial O10-1-[area
>code]-[number].
> 
>peter.


Canada has the unique distinction of being the only country which does NOT
have its own code, and uses the USA country code instead.  But then Canada
is barely a country at all, being indistinguishable from the USA except
in minor ways in which it is invariably inferior.

Laurence

Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics
From: ward@sun17.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Ward)
Subject: Re: Canada Clause
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 00:13:35 GMT

In article <13065@audetf> audetf@Software.Mitel.COM (Francois Audet) writes:
>In article <1992Sep30.090719.8076@spxtech.qc.ca> steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
>>How many justices for the aboriginal peoples would be acceptable (they have
>>a different law system too) ?
>
>No they don't.

Yes they do.
From: thood@corvus.matrox.com (Thomas Hood)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
Subject: Re: Charlottetown accord (was "What happens on October 26?")
Date: 1 Oct 92 19:16:56 GMT
Organization: Matrox Ltd.

golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy) writes:

>But between now and then we will have to endure the chorus of
>Chicken Littles.
>[...]
>Voting Yes is akin to jumping off a cliff into a bottomless abyss.
>Gerald

So Canada must choose between skyfall and abyss.
What a dilemma!

--
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Montreal
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: warkent@ltisun14.epfl.ch (Ken Warkentyne)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics,can.general
Subject: Re: I was going to vote yes, BUT NOW ....
Date: 30 Sep 92 16:43:00 GMT
Reply-To: warkent@ltisun.epfl.ch
Followup-To: soc.culture.canada
Organization: Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne

In article <BvE9wJ.FFF@sun3.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca>, ward@sun17.vlsi.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Ward) writes:
|> In article <1992Sep29.231954.4525@cs.sfu.ca> jamie@cs.sfu.ca (Jamie Andrews) writes:
|> >In article <BvBGDu.tH@watdragon.uwaterloo.ca> pasward@maytag.uwaterloo.ca (Paul A.S. Ward) writes:
|> >>BTW, could someone please explain to me how collective rights is different
|> >>from apartheid.
|> >
|> >     Sure... as soon as you explain to me how the present Indian
|> >Act and reserve system is different from apartheid.
|> 
|> Oh, I get it.  If you have apartheid now, it's OK to enshrine it in
|> the constitution.  Well that certainly makes sense!

No, you don't get it.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics
From: wcsjc@alfred.carleton.ca (John Coughlin)
Subject: Re: Royal Bank hypocrisy and the Telecommunications Sellout
Organization: Carleton University
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 22:18:09 GMT

In <1992Oct3.133610.20521@infodev.cam.ac.uk> iaf@cl.cam.ac.uk (Innes Ferguson) writes:

>(i) You obviously don't know what "plagiarism" means; it means to copy the
>ideas or words of another and pass them off as one's own (like I'm doing
>now with my trusty unnamed dictionary). Gerald quoted his source so he is
>not, by any definition (other than perhaps yours), plagiarising.

>(ii) Not all of us have easy access to the Globe and Mail. The nearest
>place I can get it is in London, over an hour away. I, as a result,
>appreciate such postings and would encourage (and am thankful to) people
>like Gerald for posting them.

>(iii) Gerald's posting of articles add more to the ongoing discussion 
>than your criticisms of his postings.

Innes has hit the nail on the head with points (ii) and (iii).

Anyway, why all the griping ?  I think the shock of somebody on Usenet
actually posting a reference to back up his claims/opinions was more
than some people can handle.  1/2 8-)
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada
From: burke@seachg.uucp (Michael Burke)
Subject: Re: Canada's country code?
Reply-To: burke@seachg.UUCP (Michael Burke)
Organization: Sea Change Corporation, Mississauga, Ontario, Canada
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 13:47:29 GMT

In article <26SEP199213133566@sscvx1.ssc.gov> godfrey@sscvx1.ssc.gov (LAURENCE GODFREY) writes:
>In article <1992Sep26.163250.37054@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>, uctlxpd@ucl.ac.uk (Peter Bartlett)        writes...
>>carlos@garfield.cs.mun.ca (Carlos Borges) writes:
>> 
>>>Anyone know what Canada's "Country Code" is?
>>>If I was in Europe, for example, and I wanted to call Canada,
>>>what would the code be?  Does this differ from country to country?
>
>Canada has the unique distinction of being the only country which does NOT
>have its own code, and uses the USA country code instead.  But then Canada
>is barely a country at all, being indistinguishable from the USA except
>in minor ways in which it is invariably inferior.
>
>Laurence
Sorry Laurence - the US has the unique distinction of being the only
country which does NOT have its own code, and uses Canada's code instead.
Only fair that Canada have the country code "1" since the vechicle for its
use - the telephone - was invented there. :^)


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Xref: sparky soc.culture.canada:6962 can.politics:7433
From: steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.canada,can.politics
Subject: Re: Parliamentary Democracy?
Date: 28 Sep 92 19:10:13 GMT
Organization: Securiplex Technologies Inc., Montreal, Canada
X-Bytes: 1608

From article <25SEP92.10712335.0070@VM1.MCGILL.CA>, by CZ94@MUSICA.MCGILL.CA (CZ94000):
> In article <1992Sep23.171018.11034@spxtech.qc.ca> steven@spxtech.qc.ca (Steve Potter) writes:
>>
>>How the hell would we ever get minority language education rights back
>>on the national agenda?
>>
> You don't.  If you expect Ottawa and the other provinces to impose
> on Quebec another change in the rules regadring access to English
> schools, you must be living in Fantasyland, not Verdun.
> 
> Your only hope is in political action on the provincial level (e.g.
> implementation of the Chambers report).  You have a reasonable
> chance of making this happen.  Why confuse things by mixing this
> issue up with constitutional questions?
> 


Strategically, you are probably right.

Despite promises and commitments that have been made by the Fed. Gov.
over the years on this issue they have deliberately and systematically
refused to deal with it. They have deliberately avoided even a
suggestion that they might be talking about it. :-(

It is, nevertheless, a constitutional issue because of s.23 of the
Can. Ch. of Rts. & Frdms. and para. 59 of the constitution.

The issue is very specifically mentioned in the constitution.

While it is in the text of the constitution it remains a constitutional
issue.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.misc
From: chris@iastate.edu (Chris WONG)
Subject: Re: Girls around the world
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, IA
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 07:14:04 GMT

In article <BvGrKq.I17@news.cso.uiuc.edu> pkk36438@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Polygon) writes:
>
>	Girls and women is definitely one of the most favorite topics for 
>guys and men.  I wonder how males look at female in different corners of
>the world.  Originally I am from Hong Kong, a materialistic city.  I

Materialistic city? What do you mean?
I'm from Hong Kong. Not all people are materialistic in Hong Kong.
There are materialistic people in other country or cities too.

>observe that guys become more timid and introvert over the last ten years
>, while the girls become more aggressive and self-centered.  Is it a 
>general trend over the world?

Not all... again...
I'd say the one used to be aggressive became more aggressive... so forth...

>	Perhaps no so many people would read this newsgroup, but if you
>happen to be one of the rare readers, please tell me what you think about
>girls in your country.
>
>						Peter, UIUC
>
>
From: jhegarty@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Joe Hegarty)
Subject: Alternative Lifestyles
Organization: Center for Environmental and Regulatory Information Systems, Purdue University
Date: Sun, 4 Oct 1992 01:35:31 GMT

I'm interested in obtaining the name and address of an
"alternative lifestyle" group believed to be in the Davis,
California area.

There was something about this group on tv a few weeks ago but I
missed alot of the show.  One interesting feature was a central
dining area for residents of the surrounding community.  Thank
for your help.

Joe Hegarty    jhegarty@ceris.purdue.edu
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.misc
From: pkk36438@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Polygon)
Subject: Girls around the world
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 22:24:24 GMT


	Girls and women is definitely one of the most favorite topics for 
guys and men.  I wonder how males look at female in different corners of
the world.  Originally I am from Hong Kong, a materialistic city.  I
observe that guys become more timid and introvert over the last ten years
, while the girls become more aggressive and self-centered.  Is it a 
general trend over the world?

	Perhaps no so many people would read this newsgroup, but if you
happen to be one of the rare readers, please tell me what you think about
girls in your country.

						Peter, UIUC


Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
From: ewalker@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Evelyn Walker)
Subject: Osu carib studdents[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[D[DC[C[C[C[C[CStudents need Ideas.
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 19:20:21 GMT

We students of the Caribbean here at The Ohio State University have a group of 
about 25 students.  We are trying to keep the group alive, students come and 
complete their degrees and then leave, and it is a disappointment when they 
leave. We are trying to do things to keep people interested, I need additional 
ideas from anyone of things we can do to keep the group growing, educational 
interests as well as social.  We need to have goals and activities.
Please ssend your ideas to Evelyn Walker _ direct email
***********************
Evelyn Walker
Walker@ohsthr
**********************
From: robert@cse.fau.edu (Robert France)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.caribbean
Subject: Shabba's new album
Date: 4 Oct 92 17:56:52 GMT
Organization: Florida Atlantic University, Boca Raton, FL, USA

Has anyone heard the new album from Shabba? How does it compare with
the `Raw ...' album (I only liked two tracks on that - the ones with 
KRS-1 and Maxi Priest House Calls)?

Also, Steel Pulse has a new live album. I bought out this weekend.
Good selection of tracks - for those who are into the Pulse this is
definitely a good buy.

Robert
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