HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: WEVENT.ZIP uploaded to halcyon.com
Date: 29 Sep 92 23:33:08 GMT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

I have uploaded WEVENT.ZIP to halcyon.com.  It's a little utility to put
messages in your /waffle/admin/events log.  I use it to add things like

27-Sep-92 02:16 system     | System rebooted
29-Sep-92 17:03 system     | System brought up
29-Sep-92 17:55 system     | System brought down

The format is the same as Waffle, itself.  If you are parsing your
events file with a program, it'll still work.

Syntax is:

wevent account "message goes here"

The account field will be truncated to 10 characters, and the message to
48.

Look in /pub/incoming or /pub/waffle.
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From: mvdl@et.tudelft.nl
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Confused news-message pointer (all messages always new)
Date: 2 Oct 92 09:10:57 +0200
Organization: TU-Delft, dpt of Electrical Engineering


Hi ya all,

Why does our waffle think each time I enter a certain newsgroup, ALL messages
are new, even when no new messages have arrived ???

What's wrong in our setups ?

Thanks,
Michel.
From: Martin Welk <mw@pandora.mei.open.de>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Keyboard//Editor-Problems
Date: Mon, 05 Oct 92 18:27:30 MET
Reply-To: Martin Welk <mw@pandora.mei.open.de>
Distribution: world
Organization: 1st OPeN site in Saxony, Germany

() just a few minutes ago I found one more problem (bug ?).
() I was logged in my waffle as 'mick' and typed in the following :
()
() cd ..\root
() edit extern.txt
()
() Now I will have to tell you that the account 'mick' has access=9 and
() priv=9 so that I can do that directory change. But that is not the problem.
() The edit command failed. Several times my editor did not want to edit the
() file that is there in the home directory of root. It is definitivly there.
() My editor did not open the file "extern.doc" and instead of that it
() opened a file called "extern.t." and that is not correct ! :-( This
() file cannot exist (two '.' in the name) and so this seems to be a bug.

I think this is a problem of your editor or of your extern file. I
set up the same configuration and it works without problems. What
editor do you use ? (As I remember, it was JOVE.) And how does your
EDITORS file look like ?

Over here it works without any problems with a comparable
configuration.

() ps. I have also had the problem with the shells and keys that do not do
()     what they should do.  E.g. it has not been possible to use the 'e' key.
()     So it has not been possible to type "exit" to return to waffle :-(
()     After that I switched off the ansi.sys.

Try to use the ANSI driver I spread in this newsgroup some days
ago, it's delivered with 4DOS and works fine with Waffle 1.65, 4DOS
4.0 and shell escapes !

Martin
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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Command-line RNEWS / TRUNCATED BATCHex
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 21:04:00 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

steveh@grafex.Cupertino.CA.US (Steve Harding KA6ETB) writes:

> My, my...touchy, touchy.  Too much coffee?

Not enough.

> Have you made your users aware that Waffle is available and what it can do
> for them?

Most of my users can't figure out how to read a mail message, much less
figure out how to install a single-user Waffle system. Ya gotta
appreciate this is the FIRST Waffle system in central Iowa, and the
second public access system to carry Usenet. It's a new concept to most
people around here. I'm just trying to ease the learning curve a bit
by providing an off-line reading option that is simple to use.

> I forgot how we even got started on this thread.  I certainly have no
> intention or desire to get involved in a flame war.  My comments were made
> in good faith in an effort to help.  Sorry if I stepped on some sore toes.

We started on this thread when I posted that RNEWS seems to see two
bytes when it encounters a CRLF pair, rather that the RFC standard of
one byte. That was supposedly the issue at hand.


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Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 19:04:29 EDT
Organization: Railnet BBS +1 216 786 0476

Ralph Sims <ralphs@remote.halcyon.com> writes:

> cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens) writes:
> 
> >         A "turn" is one command from the Main Menu.  Waffle only allows
> > 255 of them (if you have source you can disable this completely (stupid
> > feature)).
> 
> Or, try disable : turns in the static file.  Untested.
> 

Stupid feature?  Seems to me, a good feature - the only way I
can see a user exceeding the 255 limit is if something goes wrong
with communications, or the user puts a book on the enter key
of his terminal.  In either of those cases and disconnect is quite
appropriate.

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From: Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Waffle 1.65. and schedules
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 92 23:21:58 PST
Reply-To: Alan Millar <amillar@bolis.SF-Bay.Org>
Organization: The Bolis Group, San Jose, CA

hho@girtab.usc.edu (** N.T.K.C.D. ***) writes:

> Yes, I am having the same problem eversince upgrading to Waffle 1.65..
> Cron won't run :-(
> 
> I event deleted everything and reinstalled..
> I am running waffle on 486 on Novell drive, then moved to 286..

When I ran Waffle 1.64 on NetWare, the scheduler wouldn't run until
I fixed security on /waffle/system/stamp.  It needed to be writable/
modifiable.  Perhaps in your 1.65 installation you secured the
entire /waffle/system directory as read-only?

- Alan

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From: olive@edale.amigans.gen.nz (Wayne Hoyle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Help on ALIASES
Date: 1 Oct 92 14:43:11 GMT
Organization: Down on the Farm

I am having trouble using the alias pipe command ie trying to divert
mail into a news group ... my aliases file looks something like this

abc | post arc.general

When I mail abc, it works fine the first time, storing the mail as 
a news item under \arc\general

The problem arises when I try to mail abc again ... the mail just 
disappears into thin air .... as if the alias has been lost ...

If I logoff and logon again , the same thing happens ... the first attempt
works , all subsequent mails fail 

Can anyone assist please ?
   
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From: grant@bluemoon.rn.com (Grant DeLorean)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Multiple modems?
Date: 3 Oct 92 14:31:20 GMT
Organization: Blue Moon

rmyers@dec5200.acs.uci.edu (Richard Myers) writes:

>I want to hang 2000 modems off one waffle box (DOS).

 Well folks, Mr. Dell will be retiring on the check for this one so he
should have plenty of time for Waffle enhancements... ;-}

-- 
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   Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish.  -- Euripides
From: rat@ruth.UUCP (David Douthitt)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: waffle and stacker ???
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 15:42:08 CDT
Organization: Network XXIII - +1 608 222 9253

vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com (Vincent D. Skahan) writes:

| are there any problems running stacker and waffle ?
| 
| does it matter if you 'stack' all the /waffle tree
| or should you put users and file-section on a 'normal'
| partition ?

I'm running this way.  I first converted all of the /waffle tree to
a Stacker volume; then I later converted all of the /user tree to the
same Stacker volume.  However, I wouldn't put the file section in -
no purpose to.  No real compression would come out of it.


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From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: 30 Sep 92 15:44:02 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

rad@railnet.nshore.ORG (Rick DeMattia) writes:

> Ralph Sims <ralphs@remote.halcyon.com> writes:
> 
> > cfs@cowpas.waffle.atl.ga.us (Charles Stephens) writes:
> > 
> > >         A "turn" is one command from the Main Menu.  Waffle only allows
> > > 255 of them (if you have source you can disable this completely (stupid
> > > feature)).
> > 
> > Or, try disable : turns in the static file.  Untested.
> > 
> 
> Stupid feature?  Seems to me, a good feature - the only way I
> can see a user exceeding the 255 limit is if something goes wrong
> with communications, or the user puts a book on the enter key
> of his terminal.  In either of those cases and disconnect is quite
> appropriate.

I'm not arguing whether disconnect is appropriate.. I'm saying that this 
should be configurable.  Personally I think it's a cop-out, and 
inappropriate, but that's just my opinion.  I'd like to think it's not 
unreasonable for a user to be VERY efficient with his online time, like 
maybe he's got a script for his comm program that let's him read news 
while online (stuffing the screen output into a buffer he can then read 
while offline -- a poor man's offline reader).  That's just one example 
that comes to mind that may lead to a "premature" logoff.

Seeing that the "idle" value is settable, it would be nice if the "turns" 
value were as well.  But, from examining the source code, I see that it 
is hard-coded.  I'd like to see a way to set this value, possibly in the 
static file, in future versions of Waffle...
> 
> --
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From: rc@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Richard Carlson)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: USING DOS5's EDIT.COM as an editor?
Date: 27 Sep 92 16:56:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: depsych.5JRRRB2w164w

system@micromed.com (Duane Davis) writes:

> rc@depsych.Gwinnett.COM (Richard Carlson) writes:
> > jim@jimmc.chi.il.us (Jim McNicholas) writes:
> > > Can it be done IF so please tell me how and I'll modify every file in the
> > > world! It would be so cool and yes I've got 4 meg of memory on the way in
> > > addition to the 4 meg already in this 386 o' mine!
> > 
> > What are the advantages of using DOS 5's Editor (especially on a
> > point)?
> > 
> > Is it because QEdit doesn't work with 1.65?  _Does_ QEdit work
> > with 1.65?
> 
> QEdit works very well with 1.65. It was even used to enter this message.
> Problem is that it does provide a dos shell so you wouldn't everyone to
> have access to it.

Thanks to you and to the others who answered.  I feel reassured as
I get ready to make the move to 1.65!

The DOS shell capability is not a problem for me since I'm a
single user site -- just me!

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From: morpheus@entropy.mcds.com (morpheus)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: 115200 Modem speed
Keywords: fossil, locked baud, unsupported speed
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 92 15:49:27 EDT
Organization: the pickle factory at Langley, Virginia

david@csource.oz.au (david nugent) writes:

> FWIW, BNU already supports setting of additional baud rates within the
> existing FOSSIL v5 spec, although this is at present "undocumented", but
> I'm nevertheless committed to continue supporting it.

Ah, great.  I'll have to play with this.  Thanks for the info (and the feature
;-)



       morpheus@entropy.mcds.com  <->  morpheus@f208.n2606.z1.fidonet.org
                       Let's watch the world fall apart.
                      (the illuminati are still watching)
From: topcat!tom@tredysvr.tredydev.unisys.com (Tom Albrecht)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Local board being batched and feed to usenet
Date: 2 Oct 92 01:52:14 GMT
Organization: Applied Presuppositionalism, Ltd.

ralphs@remote.halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

> Let's take a look at your feeds file.  If you have a * in there,
> the stuff will go back out.  You can get around this by using
> !localgroup * in the feeds file, or by using something like:
> 
> site /batch=comp16 comp,alt,rec,sci,soc,news

Ok, so I change my feeds file to say:

        upstream        /batch  *,!foo

That all seems to work.

Now, can you explain the sematics of /type=LOCAL and why it doesn't seem to
control this behavior?  The documentation (forum.doc, page 4) describing
/type= strongly suggests that it's used to configure groups local to
Waffle, i.e., not destined for Usenet.

--
Tom Albrecht
From: a-dent@somenode.uucp (Bryan Hannahs)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: Sat, 03 Oct 92 02:44:45 EDT
Organization: .sdrawkcaB sgnihT gnipyT roF yteicoS ehT

ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
> 
> >Waffle and all other BBS programs should be robust enough to recover from
> >dropped carrier.  Sure, my modem recovers, but Waffle does not always do
> >so.  To say that I should rely upon my users to turn off their call-waiting
> >is a cop-out.  If Waffle cannot handle these situations reliably, then
> >there is a problem with Waffle.  Does anyone disagree with this?  Why?
> 
> After about 60,000 calls, I have never seen this happen.  I'm inclined
> to agree with some, that maybe the modem has a bug in the length of time
> DTR is being held low.

Er, excuse me, but DTR is controlled by the computer, not the modem...I
assume you meant CD.

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From: kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: if (++moves > 255) logout ("SiN"); ?!?!
Date: Tue, 29 Sep 92 23:07:06 CDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Iowegia Public Access Usenet/UUCP, Clive IA USA.

dawson@willard.UUCP writes:

> Man, is this extraordinarily bogus, or what!?  I never would have thought
> about such existing, until I actually saw a user get logged off with:
> 
> 12825 19.2k slim     leonard <0>                 5:46p   5:48p   MON 256  SiN
>                                                                           ^^^
> Now, I'd never seen THIS before.  I'm thinking "what is this, some way of
> forcing a logout if the user says something bad?  So, I looked in the docs,
> and found this in user.doc, line 731:       ^^^
> 
> 		SiN	user took 255 turns (far too many)
> 
> Now, there's only five occurences of the word "turns" in all the documentatio
> Maybe we could have an actual definition of "turn." Would you have guessed th
> was hard-coded?  It was a great surprise to me.

I'm not the officinado or anything, but seems to me one turn equals one
Waffle command. This seems to exclude commands inside the line editor or
RN/NEW. I had a user who discovered that in the files area, if the space
bar is hit, a zippy quote springs forth. The turns limit quicky applied.


--
Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp
From: roy%cybrspc@cs.umn.edu (Roy M. Silvernail)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Logging in again without logging out?
Date: Thu, 01 Oct 92 21:02:30 CDT
Organization: Villa CyberSpace, Minneapolis, MN

ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

> jgostin@eternal.chi.il.us (Jeff Gostin) writes:
> 
> >ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:
> 
> >> NOTE: login does not work from local console (used to in 1.64 but doesn't
> >> now).
> 
> >Surely thou jest... It's been working here fine for the past several weeks
> >since I've gotten 1.65. :-) I use it to cycle between 4 different accounts
> >here. All are local. No problems yet! :-)
> 
> "Sorry, LOGIN disabled (captive mode)."
> 
> This is if you are logged in from 'waffle online username'.

True enough.  But if you use 'waffle online' and login as a mortal
user would, you'll be able to use 'login'.  Also, your call counter will
increment.  'waffle online username' doesn't increment the calls count.
--
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Xref: sparky comp.bbs.waffle:2986 alt.config:6073
From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle,alt.config
Subject: Re: alt.bbs.waffle - Has it been rmgrouped yet?
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:03:08 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

vince@halcyon.com (Vince Skahan) writes:

> : I haven't read it in ages;  the only reason I'm allowing this follow-up 
> : is in the hopes some of these persons will see it and re-configure their 
> : systems to use comp.bbs.waffle...
> 
> 
> um, excuse me...
> do you really mean 'allowing' ?

Yes.

> that implies that you do against-common-netiquette things with things
> that you do not 'allow'...which (IMHO) nobody has any right to do.

It implies that I didn't decide to go into the resulting file, after
Waffle had created it, and REMOVE references to alt.bbs.waffle!

> You have the right (again IMHO) to not propagate a.b.w. since it's
> your system, but you don't have the right to force your decisions on
> others.

I have the right to freaking well do what I please on my own system.

> [...and yes, I think a.b.w. should'a been rmgroup'd...]

I initially thought this, but I have no real problem with alt.bbs.waffle
remaining, if only as a pointer to the real group.

> you mean 'the only reason Im responding is...' don't you ?

No, I meant, "the only reason I'm allowing my response to appear on all
the cross-posted newsgroups..."

> 
> -- 
>           Vince Skahan				vince@halcyon.com (here)
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From: vds7789@aw2.fsl.ca.boeing.com (Vincent D. Skahan)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Modem angst
Date: 6 Oct 92 13:38:24 GMT
Organization: none

ralphs@remote.halcyon.com (Ralph Sims) writes:

>otto@jybox.jyu.fi (Otto J. Makela) writes:

>> Well, there are (unfortunately) two products from USRobotics called
>> "dual standard" (what a silly name... why not call it "sexist" ?):

>Interesting choice of words, yes.  Since their own protocol isn't
>a 'standard', do they mean v.32bis/v.42bis?  or v.42bis/MNP? :)

this crossed my desk the other day...substitute the word 'standard'
in for the word 'Church' (yes, you might also substitute the word 'editor')...

--- excerpt follows ---

``"Gentlemen." said Lord Chancellor Thurlow to the deputation of Nonconfirmists 
which waited on him in 1788 for a repeal of the Corporation and Test Acts,
"I'm against you, by God! I am for the Established Church, damme! Not that I
hanve any more regard for the Established Church than for any other religion,
but that it is esablished. And if you can get your damned religion established,
I'll be for that too!"''        [ Years of Endurance, Arthur Bryant ]
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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
From: ralphs@halcyon.com (Ralph Sims)
Subject: Re: Waffle on the internet.
Organization: Northwest Nexus Inc. (206) 455-3505
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 03:41:58 GMT

ferret@works.uucp (Dave Ferret) writes:

>I've been seriously considering putting Waffle up under Unix on the 
>internet, and I was wondering if anyone could give me the inet addressof 
>one that I could take a look at...

There's probably others, but I'm partial to the one on halcyon.com,
with the login 'bbs'.
From: dawson@willard.UUCP
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.waffle
Subject: Re: Extern files spec, /dir option
Date: 27 Sep 92 17:07:39 GMT
Organization: Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814

kjhoule@iowegia.uucp (Kevin Houle) writes:

> Be careful with this. Although you may want to restrict a user to
> his/her own directory, suppose that %i parm receives a pathname. And,
> that may be your problem. Try /command="c:/mks/bin/ls d:/user/%A" for
> a full directory listing. Using %i may provide a security hole.

Yes, you are right, of course, regarding that open security hole.

However, %i receiving a full pathname was not the source of my problems
with the /dir option.  I still have no answer for what is causing that.
As an example, I worked with the following:

try /access=3 /dir="c:/user/%A" /command="c:/mks/bin/echo %i"

This "try" command is exactly the same as echo.  It correctly echoes
back what the user inputs, but at no time, in any configuration that
I've tried, does it first change directory to "c:/user/%A" ..

Now, if I have read the extern.doc file correctly, this is exactly
what is supposed to happen:

    1.  Change directory to c:/user/%A.
    2.  Execute command.

Why is your suggestion for my "ls" command insufficient?  Because it
means that I can't use ls as a access=9 person to examine any directory.
Instead, I'll have to make the extern file point to a batch file, and
have the batch file call the command differently for different access
levels.  Yech.  ... but unavoidable, I guess.

ls /access=3 /shell /command="myls %a %A %i"
----------------------------------------
@echo off
rem Begin /waffle/bin/myls.bat
rem %1 == user access level
rem %2 == user directory
rem %3 == file/directory
rem
if "%2" == "9" goto sysop
if "%3" == "" goto noarg
c:\mks\bin\ls c:/user/%2/%3
goto end
:noarg
c:\mks\bin\ls c:/user/%2
goto end
:sysop
c:\mks\bin\ls %3
goto end
:end
rem End /waffle/bin/myls.bat
----------------------------------------

> 
> --
> Kevin Houle     kjhoule@iowegia.uucp


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