From: parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr)
Newsgroups: alt.peeves
Subject: Re: Pained Whale?
Keywords: elephant, HE, m203
Date: 16 Oct 92 21:08:30 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta

In article <1992Oct15.210553.7572@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
>In article <92Oct15.150109.11654@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca
>(Charles Parr) and his mom write:
>>In article <1992Oct14.233133.1572@igor.tamri.com> donb@igor.tamri.com (Don Baldwin) writes:
>>>In article <92Oct14.135658.28951@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca 
>>>(Charles Parr), with some help from his mommy, writes:
>>> If you can't do any better that the stuff you just posted,
>>>please do us the favor of pissing off without saying anything more...
>>>otherwise, we'll be forced to see if a gravel enema will help you.
>>
>>Help me what, Don? I don't spout my peeves from my anal orifice
>>(I know, but soon even you will learn to talk out your mouth,
>>rather than dribbling out your sphincter), so I doubt the 
>>vigorous cleansing action would do me any good at all.
>
>Seems like you'd better consider a remedial reading class, Ace.  I was
>thinking in terms of attitude adjustment when I mentioned the gravel
>enema, not removing the source of your creativity.

Oh I get it, the Gravel Enema(tm), is supposed to be an "attitude
adjustment". You don't like my "attitude". So fucking what,
Baldwin? What makes you think you can change my attitude for me?
If you want to try, use a baseball bat. It won't help, but you'll
probably find it quite pleasant when I take it away from you
and ram it into your anal sphincter. Sideways.

You see, I had to assume that this Gravel Enema(tm) was being
offered as some sort of friendly assistance. The thought that
you might consider yourself qualified to hold an opinion
never crossed my mind. Still, I suppose it's good for you
to aspire to greater heights...Just try not to get uppity around
your betters.

>But now that you mention it, I was wondering where that odor was coming
>from...

I believe it's foot-odour, Don. Want a crowbar to pry those
piggies out of your puss?

>>I bet I'm not alone in wondering how you could have failed to 
>>understand my peeve, Baldwin, but I'll spell it out for you
>>one more time. The reference was to how spineless yuppie-spawn
>>pick their churches and religions out of convenience, rather
>>than faith. This constitutes *hypocrisy*, Baldwin, and it
>>peeves me quite a bit.
>
>The fact that they're actually THINKING about religion and evaluating
>it critically, rather than simply copying their parents, bothers you?
>Faith is a precious commodity these days, my muddled young friend,
>and it seems to me that it's a real GOOD idea to make sure that the
>people you want to believe in don't do stupid things like condemn the
>use of contraceptives in overpopulated countries.

Look Baldwin, if logic was the best way to select a religion,
there wouldn't *be* any religions. Faith should burn in a man,
he should talk to god, and get answers back. He should have
a crusaders zeal, a missionary's annoyance factor, and a martyr's
indifference to danger.

Secondly, you are revealing your complete ignorance of what it
means to have religion. Your average "good catholic" doesn't
*care* if people are starving to death because of overpopulation,
Baldwin. He only cares about their souls. You see, you are
missing the basic value judgement here: To the religious man,
those people are either a) going to heaven, or b) don't matter
at all because they are heathens.

Do I agree with this? Nope. Do I support it? Nope. Do I fight
it? Yep. Do I remember when I talk to them that, on this issue,
they are space aliens, and cannot be relied upon to act
logically? Yep.

I do not respect the ideas which lie behind the catholic
church. I do not respect this specific idea either. I 
respect the spine ( you remember spines from bio class,
Baldwin. Your decendants may evolve them in a few million
years or so) that they show by espousing such beliefs,
and by defending them. It's the kind of respect that
a soldier has for his enemy. He doesn't like him, but
he certainly respects his skill and prowess.

It doesn't mean I *agree* with the morons who lob bombs
at abortion clinics. It means I *respect* people who
live their lives according to what they believe is right
and moral.

>>I don't agree with religious fanatics, most of the time. And 
>>I certainly don't permit them to dictate to me, but I have
>>respect for sincerity of belief. 
>
>Right.  Personally, I don't respect someone's beliefs very much if their
>poor sense of self worth forces them to try and foist off their beliefs onto
>me, handle rattlesnakes, etc.  If you've got to work that hard to
>prove that you have faith, you probably don't have it to begin with.

Baldwin, your posts in this newsgroup have shown, repeatedly,
that you have very little respect for *anything*. Other than
yourself of course, but that's understandable: You have all the
answers, have seen and done everything, and hold the All Seeing
Power of the Universe. Baldwin, we must bore you with our
occasional slips into doubt. Mind if we call you up and have
you set us straight from now on?

>You failed, Chuck.  Maybe you should work up to peeving by starting in
>alt.whine?

Failed what, Baldwin? I thought I already made it perfectly clear
that *I don't care what you think*? You are an obstreporous
obfuscating twiddlehead, Baldwin, and you have neither the
invective skill to be a flamethrower, nor the wit
and humour to be a peever.

>    don
>------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>"Even though what you do may be completely insignificant, it is very
>important that you do it".
>        - Gandhi

Interesting quote Don...He was religious, you know.

Regards, Charles
-- 
Within the span of the last few weeks I have heard elements of
separate threads which, in that they have been conjoined in time,
struck together to form a new chord within my hollow and echoing
gourd. --Unknown net.person
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