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From: jperkski@kentcomm.UUCP (Jim Perkowski)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re:  Why X _is_ making money
Distribution: world
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:08:50 EST
Organization: Not an Organization

In article <1993Jan5.155416.17951@b8.b8.ingr.com> anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:
>In article <sterbenc-040193150223@150.130.23.185>, sterbenc@ivhs.mot.com (Joe Sterbenc) writes:
>|> Um, guys...
>|>
>|> It's not challenging the Culkinator or setting records, but X is
>|> already in 8-digit profits - in spite of the Amazing Colossal Budget.
>|>
>|> There is one simplereason it's not as blockbustery as y'all apparently
>|> expect it to be. Can you name any box office smash that was three and
>|> a half hours long? It's simply too long to be an ideal box office movie.
>|>
>
>Dances with Wolves, Gone with the Wind, Dr. Zhivago, Lawrence of Arabia, Ben Hur,
>The Ten Commandments, etc., etc.

Reds, Gandhi, Heaven's Gate, and The Right Stuff. Thought I would fill in some of
the "etc's".:)

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From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: 2 movie questions
Date: 13 Jan 93 04:04:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: panther.ISBELL.93Jan12200447
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In-reply-to: cew2w@Virginia.EDU's message of 12 Jan 93 21:17:48 GMT

cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike") writes:
|eiswirth@vixvax.mgi.com  writes:
|> First question:
|> 
|> 	Does anyone know what place T2 is in as far as top grossing '91 movies,
|> 	as well as where it places on the all-time list?
|> 
	   It clocks in at number twelve.  "Ghost" is right ahead
|at number eleven and "Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade" is
|number thirteen.  However, if you adjust all movies to 1991
|inflation dollars, T2 would have to have made an extra 150 mil.
|to make the top ten.

So why don't they do that (and, I suppose, control for population size
or something)? 
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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Subject: Re: Siskel & Eberts Top 10 of 1992
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 18:18:38 GMT

In article <rb02lcb@rpi.edu> buckmr@marcus.its.rpi.edu (Ron Buckmire) writes:
>jkung@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jimmy Kung) writes:
>
>>Inevitably, this is going to have to be re-posted several times, so
>>here's the first one.  :)
>
>I haven't even HEARD of ONE FALSE MOVE! [And I consider myself a serious
>filmgoer!]

"One False Move" is an independently made American film about a group of
fugitives from LA who travel to a small town in Arkansas.  It was widely
admired by American critics, and played for long runs in New York and
LA.  I don't know how widely it was seen outside those areas.  I thought
it was a very good film, probably deserving of being on a ten-best list.
I am a bit surprised it made it into the first and second positions, though.
It wasn't *that* good.

-- 
		Peter Reiher
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From: egnilges@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Edward G. Nilges)
Subject: Re: Coppola's DRACULA
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Distribution: na
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 05:24:54 GMT

>
>
>I think that your views about the relationship between culture and politics are
>very, very wrong.  I suppose you'd want to say that the *extremely* pejorative
>view of Gypsies in *Dracula* has nothing to do with their mass slaughter in
>the Holocaust, or with the German government's recent attempt to ship Gypsies
>"back" to Romania, but such political events are *closely*, profoundly related
>to the steady current of pejorative depictions of these people in works of
>culture, pejorative depictions that go back at least to the Middle Ages.
>By depicting Gypsies as less than fully human, Coppola (and Stoker before him)
>is perpetuating a cultural practice that has a *direct and pernicious*
>bearing on socio-political events.

Right, Michael; the game is called "picking on targets [Bosnians,
Muslims, Gypsies, women] that can't hit back effectively."

There seem to be two schools of thought on Coppola.  They're both wrong.
One takes him to be a serious filmmaker; but I note that Dracula and
Mina dolls are ALREADY available at the local Suncoast video, and
somehow I cannot square a conception of Coppola as a serious filmmaker
with toys (I mean, who the hell BUYS that crap?  The "Mina" doll was not
even a decent likeness of Winona Ryder.)

The other dismisses his films, but refuses to engage their very serious
sexism and racism since it thinks that a posture of hip alienation
absolves one from criticizing the dominant culture.



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From: jil@uts.uucp (Jamie Lubin)
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Organization: Bellcore, Piscataway, NJ
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 19:11:06 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.171650.898@nntpd.lkg.dec.com> tatlow@athena.lmo.dec.com writes:
>
>What about THE DARK BACKWARDS?  It's about a really, really,
>bad stand-up comic who grows a third arm out of his back.

Have to agree w/you.  Just saw it on Cinemax (?) a few weeks ago...& to think,
I used to like Judd Nelson, at least somewhat.
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From: pelton@ecf.toronto.edu (PELTON MATTHEW ALAN)
Subject: Re: Chaplin
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 02:17:10 GMT

In article <1654@blue.cis.pitt.edu> milst1@cislabs.pitt.edu (Martin I Lewison) writes:
>
>I saw two movies in the last 24 hours.  The first was "Toys", which was
>just really awful.
>
>The other was Attenborough's "Chaplin", which was delightful.  Not incredibly
>amazing, but a good solid 2hrs. of entertainment.  As the critics have been
>saying, this is a defining role for Robert Downey Jr. - he really was 
>very good.  Overall, a very good film.
>
>-Martin
  Delightful?  Painful, maybe.  How much do youknow about Chaplin?  He was
nothing like the Gandhi-as-Little-Tramp the movie made him out to be.  And
how much did you learn about his life by watching the movie?
   At least you didn't like Toys.

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From: anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman)
Subject: Re: Bond books and movies
Organization: Intergraph
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:51:44 GMT

|> 
|> BTW - During their recent James Bond week, TNT showed the original 1 
|> hour long TV version of Casino Royale that was shown as a live show in 
|> the 50s (1956 I believe).  It starred Barry Nelson as James (and 
|> included Peter Lorre as the villan). So, technically, I guess you could 
|> say Casino Royale was made as a "serious" production.

I don't know how serious you can call it, since James Bond was an American and
everyone kept refering to him as "Jimmy."

Anthony


"Champagne that's not chilled is like listening to the Beatles without ear muffs."

	- Sean Connery in "Goldfinger"
From: jsp@uts.amdahl.com (James Preston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Date: 7 Jan 93 22:51:50 GMT
Reply-To: jsp@pls.amdahl.com
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

tfisher@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Tom Fisher) writes:

}> What are some of the things that drive you nuts when you go to see a movie at a
}> theater?
}> 
}> 1: People who have to talk constantly, especially if they have to narrate the
}> whole damn film to their stupid companions!

}  Agreed!!  This very thing happened to me not long ago and ruined my
}  evening.  Next time, I'm asking for a refund.

Gee, you say that like it's a rare event.  Almost every time I go to
a theater, people around me talk at various points during the movie.

I'd like to know if I'm the only one who notices this:  Theaters that
turn down the brightness of the projector bulb, supposedly to keep
the film stock from wearing out sooner, so that the whole movie looks
like it was filmed at night.

The first time I became aware of this problem was when I watched the 
video of _Roger Rabbit_.  It looked *so much* brighter than I remembered
it from seeing it in the theater.  I thought it had something to do with
the process of putting a movie on tape, until I heard Gene and Roger
complain about theaters that turn their projector bulbs down.  Since
then, I have noticed a seeming lack of proper illumination in many
movies.

--James Preston

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From: johnson@spectra.com (boyd johnson)
Subject: Re: PEEVES at MOVIE THEATERS !
Organization: Spectragraphics Corporation
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 18:54:40 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.204526.6320@CERIS.Purdue.EDU> tfisher@CERIS.Purdue.EDU (Tom Fisher) writes:
>> What are some of the things that drive you nuts when you go to see a movie at a
>> theater?
>
>  2: When they stop the previews, turn up the house lights, and pass the
>     collection jar around for some "good" cause.  That really burns me up!
>     Talk about a captive audience....

What really bothered me is when our most expensively priced local theatre 
(Mann) started sending "funny" high-pressure consession sellers laden
with food and drinks into the theatre before the show, then started
advertising local businesses, the Army, etc along with the trailers.  
I don't know if they still do that, because I stopped going there when
that happened.

Also:
> From: spencer@der.Princeton.EDU (S. Spencer Sun)
> 
> The schedule gave us at best 15 minutes between scheduled shows, and it
> takes more than 15 minutes to clear out 400+ people, clean the
> auditorium, and seat 400+ people.

Since 99% of the people leave at the first sign of credits as if someone
had yelled "FIRE" the ushers usually have a few minutes during the
credits to start cleaning (along with giving patrons obvious clues they
would like them to leave).
I can see where it would be a problem keeping people from entering until
all of the trash was removed and the floors were mopped and still giving
them enough time to get a good seat and get settled.

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Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
From: mccoy@ils.nwu.edu (Jim Mccoy)
Subject: 1992 Movies that will continue to be popular
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 12:49:51 GMT

While everyone is making lists of the "best" films of 1992, I thought I
would throw out a slight twist to that question and see what people think:

Which films released this year will continue to be popular over the next
decade? 

I think that this question should produce some slightly different answers
than the top 10 lists.  I always enjoy walking through video rental stores
and watching to see which films have actually managed to maintain the
interest of the public over the years and through numerous viewings.  A
substantial majority of these films seem to me to be films that did not top
the box-office charts when they were released but for some reason they seem
to have a certain "staying power" that I cannot explain, these films range
from the "cult classics" to mass-appeal movies that people still want to
watch. 

Of the 1992 films, Wayne's World is certain to capture the same group that
seems to keep Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure going.  On the other hand,
I doubt Alladin will have the same long-term success that Beauty and the
Beast (not a 92 film, but one that will remain popular) will have.

So what films do you think people will still want to see in 10 years that
came out this year?

-jim



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From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Upcoming Films
Date: Sat, 09 Jan 93 00:40:56 GMT
Organization: Usenet Power Elite: Crush-The-Innocent-Newbies Strike Team
Distribution: usa

alee@midway.uchicago.edu writes:

> Certainly a script of "Aliens vs. Predator" DOES exist, but that's about 
> all that's happened for this project. NOTHING has been planned yet, and 
> most likely nothing will.

"Aliens vs. Predator" has a script, a studio, and a $30M budget.  It's in
preproduction, and unless it gets lost in Hollywood politics, will almost
certainly be made and released.

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
From: jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: SUGGESTIONS for WEIRD MOVIES - Embellished
Date: 12 Jan 93 16:00:10 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <1993Jan11.232813.50303@datamark.co.nz>,
thomas@datamark.co.nz (Thomas Beagle) writes:

>Please excuse the sarcasm, but I found Eat the Rich to be a terrible
>disappointment. Nosher Powell (? - the Brit politician) was mildly
>amusing but really only enough for a short skit on a comedy program.
>
>I thought the rest of it was boring and pretty well lacking in humour.
>
>When it comes to eating people, how about the subplot in Eating Raoul?

I'll take the B-movie "Eat and Run" any day for cannibalism humor. Murray
Creature rules!
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From: grider@IASTATE.EDU (Yuhang Ho)
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Reply-To: grider@IASTATE.EDU (Yuhang Ho)
Organization: Iowa State University
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 06:44:13 GMT


Dune (1.5)
Rocky Horror Picture Show, The (1.5)
Gothic (2)
Streets of Fire (3.5)
Wild At Heart (3.5)
Edward Scissorhands (3.5)
Mad Max (4)
Adventures of Baron Munchausen, The (4)
Freaks, The (4)
Bladerunner (4.5)
Clockwork Orange, A (4.5)
Apocalypse Now (4.5)
Cook, the Thief, His Wife, and Her Lover, The (4.5)
L.A. Story (4.5)
Blue Velvet (5)
Eraserhead (5)

and the list goes on...........

Here are four more films which I think deserve in the weird list:

   1) Drowning By numbers (Dir: Peter Greenaway) (3.5)
   2) Fisher King, The (Dir: Terry Gilliam) (4)
   3) Tenant, The (Dir: Roman Polanski) (4)
   4) Road Warrior, The (Also Mad Max 2, Dir: George Miller) (5)


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From: hhtra@usho21.hou281.chevron.com (T.M.Haddock)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Apocalypse Now
Date: 8 Jan 93 01:17:16 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Chevron

In article <1993Jan7.204845.25900@b8.b8.ingr.com>, anthony@panzer.b17b.ingr.com (Anthony Shipman) writes:

|> "napalm in the morning."
|> 	The colonel (Duvall) was the epitome of the gung-ho, kill-kill-kill
|> mentality that got us so deeply involved in a useless, tragic war.

 Duvall's character represented the gung-ho, we're-the-best, total-
 confidence-in-his-troops-and-firepower mentality that served so well
 during Desert Storm.

 But, he did not represent the "kill-kill-kill mentality that got us so 
 deeply involved in a useless, tragic war.

 That dubious honor goes to JFK, LBJ, Nixon, and all the other politicans
 "that got us so deeply involved in a useless, tragic war" and then 
 prevented the military from doing its job.

 His "smells like Victory" is simply a similar reaction to what smells
 might remind us of other things - like fresh apple pies "smells" like
 grandma's kitchen, a musty tent "smells" like last year's vacation at
 the lake.


 TRAVIS
 
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From: rorschak@daimi.aau.dk (Jesper Lauridsen)
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Organization: Exile Government of Bramming
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 18:48:42 GMT

   You think that you have seen some weird movies? Then read this.
It was a french made-for-tv movie that I saw on a german satelitte
station late at night some 2 years ago.

   The movie evolves around two plotlines: the first is a politically
correct group of children (both sexes and all colours) that has to
raise money for a friend in hospital. Standard children program
stuff. The other part is centered around one of the kids older (~20)
brother - a smalltime criminal.
   We see him do some jobs (with graphical violence (partner killed
by getting a spear through his chest, watchdog killed by a pittbull
terrier)) and he eventually teams up with a more experienced gangster,
with a serious deathwish, to rob a cash transport.
   During this robbery the older gangster gets killed in a suicide
attack on the police, but the rest gets away with a huge sum of 
money. They hide the cash at one of the team members. Little do
they know that during the planning and implementation of the robbery
have they been watched by the kids. The cute group of children uses
standard tricks (in the old kids are much smarter than adults style)
to get the keeper of the money out of his house, steals the money
and buys an expensive present for their sick friend.

   This movie is weird. Everything that had to do with the kids were
run of the mill children movie stuff, while the rest of the movie
featured gratious sex, brutal violence and killing of animals.
It seemed like a combination of two movies made for entirely different
audiences.

   If anyone knows the title of this movie I would be grateful,
cause I would really like to see it again.
-- 
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From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: James Bond (was Re: "Moonraker")
Date: 4 Jan 93 22:24:40 GMT
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <2cGR032Hc7KY00@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com>, jsp@uts.amdahl.com 
(James Preston) writes:

> Both Dalton movies used original titles and plots (well, as "original" 
> as any Bond movie plot can be).

Not true.  "The Living Daylights" was an *excellent* Fleming short-story
that involved Bond having to shoot a Russian sniper to save a defector.

It was followed, and added to greatly obviously, in the movie of the same name.

Greg Bole                            "We ride...to hell.  Or to glory.  
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From: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Jim Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: SF NOVELS THAT WOULD
Date: 12 Jan 1993 21:52:12 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Reply-To: jmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: gondolin.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1993Jan12.210334.13622@Virginia.EDU> cew2w@Virginia.EDU  
("Chris Wrike") writes:
> 	I don't.  "2001" was great, although the book was
> better, but "2010" was only OK, and both Kubrick and Clarke
> have both admitted that the second film was the lesser of the
> two.  I did not like the book "2061".  I find it hard to
> believe that a spacecraft could land on Hayley's comet.  There
> were a few good action scenes in the book, but all in all I
> hope that Kubrick picks a new topic for his next movie.  Based
> on the BO returns of "2010", I believe he will.

Well, since Kubrick had nothing at all to do with 2010, I 
don't imagine he'll be working on 2061.  

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From: sterl@shell.portal.com (Sterling Levell)
Subject: Seeking good selection of foreign videos in Bay Area
Summary: Seeking good selection of foreign videos in BA besides BB and Tower
Keywords: foreign videos
Organization: Portal Communications Company
Distribution: ba
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 15:20:43 GMT

I am looking for a good selection of foreign videos.  I would prefer
walk in store.  Mail order would be okay, if it were reasonably
priced.  Reasonably priced to me would be no more than $15 for 3
videos via mail.  I live in Mountain View, so nearby would be
appreciated.  San Francisco and Berkley are long haul to rent a video.
I have seen the selection at Block Buster and Tower Records.  These
two stores have a fairly good selection, but I was wondering if there
are better selections elsewhere.  A request such as this has probably
been posted before, but I don't keep up with this news group.  Feel
free to reply via news posting or e-mail.  Thanks in advance.

-Sterling

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From: tonyl@vcd.hp.com (Tony Long)
Subject: Re: The Weird List
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 07:31:12 GMT
Distribution: rec
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

	Here are some more "altered reality" flicks:

		Twin Peaks

		The Dark Backward

		Bride of Reanimator

		From Beyond

		* of the Living Dead

		Altered States

		The Trip

		Planet of the Apes

		Empire of the Sun

		The Stepfather

			Tony

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From: dtschett@saims.skidmore.edu (donna tschetter)
Subject: Re: Wanted Mac II si
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 15:13:16 GMT

Please ignore!