From: steven@jaynes ( Steve Novak)
Subject: Re: Family leave farce (was a most pressing COncern)
Organization: U S WEST Advanced Technologies
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 23:06:09 GMT

> = (Keith R. Jurena) writes:

>Apparently you don't listen to Rush.  

Apparently you're already brainwashed by him.

>In a recession with ~7% unemployment the thing we DON'T need is three
>months of unemployment promised to a worker.

No wonder you sound so dumb.  You see, the Family Leave Act allows 3
months of unpaid LEAVE with the specific purpose of ensuring that a job
still EXISTS when that worker returns.

>This bill hinges on the premise that employers are cold and
>mean slave drivers who don't care about their employee's families.
>I have a revelation for you: they are NOT.

Uh, Keith - why do you think the bill needs to be passed?  Because these
imaginary benevolent employers in your fantasy are ALREADY granting such
leave?

Get an argument.

>When 75% of the jobs are in small businesses, imposing such legislation
>will only result in greater unemployment.  

No-o-o-o-o...it'll ensure that people taking such leave will NOT be
unemployed.  Your grasp of the guts of this bill seems tenuous at best.

>These bosses know their employees well enough to allow "slack" for
>emergencies.

Really.  Every one; you know this.  Then, again, why do you think this
bill is being proposed?  Do you think it's a left-wing bleeding-heart 
plot to somehow destroy businesses?  Or, MAYbe...some employers are
simply flaming assholes looking ONLY after their bottom line!

You're making no sense.

>What good is an unemployed worker in paying bills, providing food and 
>welfare for her/his family?

Exactly.  Just the reason we gotta make sure creeps like SOME employers
are DON'T make people who need leave to give up their jobs.

>If this bill would have passed, it would have required
>"Aid to temporarily unemployed workers who have sick children and who
>don't have to work".  

Where in hell do you GET these amazing lies?  Really - I'd like to know how
someone becomes so skewed.

>Get real, family values is working for your children/spouse.

"Family  values" is subjective, and sure not ably determined by someone
like YOU, so totally out of touch with the purposes of the Family Leave Act
that he sounds like the Pope pontificating on sex.
  
Do any future family of yours a favor - get a vasectomy.

>>In addition, homosexual rights have become a major issue in Oregon and
>>Colorado.
>>
>>Drieux, for those of you who haven't run into him before (primarily in
>>in talk.abortion, talk.bizarre, and soc.singles) is a satirist who tends
>>to x-post very heavily, into any newsgroup that has even the remotest
>>connection to the current topic.  Most of his recent articles revolve
>>around the following slogan: "Just say no to hetero!"

>And thus propagating the myth that heterosexual relationships have no 
>justification.  

SATIRIST.  Can you READ?  Look, 8 lines up from here.   A *joke*, son, that
was a *joke*.  <Guffaw>  Gads, I love you pedantic bores :).

>Think you simpletons: We are all products of heterosexual relationships,
>be they in vivo or vitro.

Hee hee.  Isn't this sentence deliciously ironic?

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From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:07:22 GMT
Subject: Oops
Organization: HP Western Response Center