Newsgroups: soc.culture.bulgaria
Subject: Re: Latin->Cyrillic map
From: lihouba@dapsas1 (Christo Houbaviy)
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:13:48 GMT
Organization: Weizmann Institute of Science, Computing Centre

In article <ZLATEV.92Nov11185018@olive.an.isl.titech.ac.jp> zlatev@an.isl.titech.ac.jp (Rossen Zlatev) writes:
>In article <1992Nov7.180020.5057@wisipc.weizmann.ac.il> lihouba@dapsas1 (Christo Houbaviy) writes:
>

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>
>	Tova sa dumite koito se seshtam ot raz. Otvaryam rechnik i izvajdam
>dumi sysdyrjashti ( tazi syshto) y ili q.
>
>	vtylpyavam,  otpechatyk, obryshtam, vyzpriemchiv ( predstavkata vyz)
>	impresionizym ( sumati dumichki sys "zym"), syshtnost, dyrzyk,
>	mydyr, dostypen, sydyrjanie, syotvetstvie, sydyrjanie, vstypvam,
>	svyrzan, prisysht i t.n.
>
>	Tova sa dumichki ot 2-3 stranitsi. Sledovatelno tvyrdenieto:
>
>>[u], kato naprimer v 'quarter'. Na bqlgarski obache 'er-goljam - u' se
>>sreshta mnogo rjadko (if at all), a shto se otnasja do kombinatsijata
>>'ku' mnogo rjadko njakoi shte ja transkribira kato 'qu'.
>
>	E absolyutno pogreshno. y ili q v bylgarskiya ezik e mnogo chesto
>upotrebyavan zvuk. Za razlika ot "er-malyk". V ruskiya ezik e tochno obrat-
>noto.

Nikoga ne sqm tvqrdjal obratnoto. Stavashe vqpros za kombinatsijata
'er-goljam - u' t. e. [(glasnata izrazjavana ot er-goljam) +
 (glasnata u)], kato v dumata 'squchenik' i che mnogo rjadko njakoi bi
transkribiral dumata 'skuka' sqs 'q' - 'squka'.

Shto se otnasja do ruskija ezik to tam 'er-goljam' e izvesten kato
'tvyiordii znak' i izpqlnjava sqvsem druga funktsija. Vqprosnijat zvuk
vqobshte ne sqshtestvuva v ruskija i dumichki kato qgql (ygyl) sa
dosta trudni za rusnatsite.

>	Taka che vyprosa za y(q) e vajen i ne moje da byde podminat kakto
>vyprosa za "er-malyk". Samo v predishnoto izrechenie ima 3 razlichni dumi,
>koito sydyrjat v sebe si "y".

Tochno tova iskah da kazha i az v predishnija si poster. Mezhdu
drugoto transcriptsijata ygyl mi zvuchi s ruski akcent.

>POCEH

I nakraja vqv vrqzka s tsjalata tazi diskusija po transliteratsijata
eto kakvo se pojavi v rec.humor (mai nie tochno kqm tova se stremim :-)):

PLAN FOR IMPROVEMENT OF ENGLISH SPELLING by MARK TWAIN

        For example, in Year 1 that useless letter "c" would be dropped
to be replased either by "k" or "s", and likewise "x" would no longer
be part of the alphabet. The only kase in which "c" would be retained
would be the "ch" formation, which will be dealt with later. Year 2
might reform "w" spelling, so that "which" and "one" would take the
same konsonant, wile Year 3 might wll abolish "y" replasing it with
"i" and Iear 4 might fiks the "g/j" anomali wonse and for all.
        Jenerally, Then, the improvement would kontinue iear bai iear
with Iear 5 doing awai with useless double konsonants, and Iears 6-12
or so modifaiing vowlz and the remeining voist and unvoist konsonants.
Bai Iear 15 or sou, it wud fainali bi posibl tu meik ius ov thi
ridandant letez "c", "y" and "x" -- bai now jast a memori in the maindz
ov ould doderez -- tu riplais "ch", "sh" and "th" rispektivli.
        Fainali, xen, aafte sam 20 iears ov orxogrefkl riform, wi wud
hev a lojikl, kohirnt speling in ius xrewawt xe Ingliy-spiking werld.


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Christo Houbaviy [lihouba@dapsas.weizmann.ac.il]
Department of Molecular Genetics and Virology
The Weizmann Institute of Science, Rehovot, Israel
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