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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sqlinfo
Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:26:00 EST
From:         "Themistoklis I. Pentakalos" <MIS5000@UMBCADMN.BITNET>
Subject:      NEW LIST for CLIENT/SERVER
X-To:         oracle-l@SBCCVM.BITNET, mssql-l@dukefsb.BITNET,
              sql@UCLACN1.BITNET, sqlinfo@UICVM.BITNET

Hi everyone,

        A new list has been created for discussing client/server
programming between Microsoft Windows and VAX databases. Many
related software will be included in the conversations.

e.g.    (Visual Basic, Omnis7, DAL, VAX SQL/RDB, SQLServices,
         Toolbook, VAX ACMS, and more)

        If you, or someone you know, are working on something
related, join the list.

        Listname:       WIN-VAX
        Location:        at LISTSERV@UMDD

        Thanks and enjoy,

        Themos

P.S.    Pardon the interruption from your usual discussions.
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sqlinfo
Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 22:08:36 -0600
From:         "Frank C. Fillmore Jr." <TFG01@IBRDVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      VM/ESA

 SQL/DS 2.1 is not supported under VM/ESA.  SQL/DS 2.2 with all available
 service applied is supported.

 I can be reached at IBRD 202-473-9682
 -or- at The Fillmore Group, Inc. 410-465-6335
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sqlinfo
Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:39:57 PST
From:         Larry Crawford <LCRAWFOR@UCDCVDLS.BITNET>
Subject: Re: Identify and Remove Duplicate Rows ?
              19 Aug 1992 08:30:36 -0700 from <ark@DB.STANFORD.EDU>

On Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:30:36 -0700 Arthur Keller said:
>If there are duplicate keys, but the non-key fields differ, then
>SELECT DISTINCT won't work.  Try this standard SQL command to
>identify the problem keys:
>
>        SELECT key_name, COUNT (*)
>        FROM your_table
>        GROUP BY key_name
add      HAVING COUNT(*) >1

to show only the dups.


Thanks,                            \ /   University of Calif  Davis
Larry Crawford, Systems Specialist  *    California Veterinary Diagnostic
lcrawfor%ucdcvdls@uccvma.ucop.edu  / \   Laboratory System (916) 752-4407
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sqlinfo
Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:28:00 EDT
From:         Dan Bernitt 865-0820 <DLB@PSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Identify and Remove Duplicate Rows ?

How about creating a new table (you could create the key at the same time)
and filling it with just the distinct values from the old table?

   CREATE ......
   INSERT INTO ........ SELECT DISTINCT ...........  FROM ....
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.sqlinfo
Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 14:15:45 -0400
From:         Charlotte Moskalenko <cmoskale@RESEARCH1.BRYANT.EDU>
Subject:      Ingres tables
X-To:         SQLINFO%UICVM.BitNet@pucc.princeton.edu

Does anyone know how to get subtotals from a table?
Besides using multiple select statements?

Any help will be appreciated.

Charlotte Moskalenko
Bryant College
Smithfield, RI
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 20:27:00 EDT
From:         Dan Bernitt 865-0820 <DLB@PSUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Ingres tables
              20 Aug 1992 14:15:45 -0400

If you have QMF, subtotals are quite simple and are done on the result
of a single select.  For example:

  SELECT NAME,DEPT,JOB,SALARY FROM STAFF
  ORDER BY DEPT

sorts the personnel by department.  On QMF's FORMS panel, put the USAGE
code BREAK1 for DEPT and the usage code SUM for salary.  The report will
give a nice breakdown showing subtotals for each department.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 09:43:06 -0400
From:         gorr@CIT.HMC.PSU.EDU
Subject:      Identify and Remove Duplicate Rows ?
X-To:         sqlinfo%uicvm.bitnet@psuvm.psu.edu

Hi:

In trying to establish a key after loading data
into a table, I get an error message indicating
that there are duplicate instances of values in
the key fields.  Obviously a no no.

Any slick ways to identify and remove the extra
rows?

In Ingres, I used to be able to use the count function to get the key
field values and the
count, but SQL/DS only seems to let you retrieve
the count.

If this is a truly stupid question, I appreciate
your patience (and assistance, too, I hope).

Thanks,

Geoff Orr
Research Associate
Penn State University College of Medicine
Hershey, PA
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 08:34:46 -0400
From:         gorr@CIT.HMC.PSU.EDU
Subject:      Identify and Remove Duplicate Rows ?
X-To:         sqlinfo%uicvm.bitnet@psuvm.psu.edu

What a kind and generous list!  I ask an RTFM
question, and get lots of friendly help.
Thanks to all.

Geoff Orr
Research Associate
Penn State University College of Medicine
Hershey, PA

Richard Klysz asked me to post the following:


------- Forwarded Message

>Date: Thu, 20 Aug 92 10:54:26 +1000
>From: Richard Klysz <R.Klysz@itc.gu.edu.au>
>
>To: gorr@sys-a
>Subject: Re: Identify and Remove Duplicate Rows ?
>
>
>If your SQL implementation accepts ROWID to return >the full row
>description (ORACLE does), the following might help >:
>
>
>DELETE FROM <table_name>
>WHERE ROWID IN (SELECT b.ROWID
>                  FROM <table_name> a,
>                       <table_name> b
>                 WHERE a.<column_name> = >b.<column_name>
>                   AND b.ROWID> a.ROWID)
>
>where <table_name> identifies the target table and ><column_name>
>identifies the key field. If the  key is a composite >  of several
>fields, insert :
>
>
>                   AND a.<column_name2> = >b.<column_name2>
>
>and so on, as required.
>
>The result is the deletion of all but the first >occcurrence of
>each duplicated key. (You might want to test it in >your environment
>first.)
>
>I hope this is of some assistance.
>
>I would have posted this to the network, but >something seems to be
>wrong with my facility to post/follow.
>
>If possible, could you please post it for me, as >other readers may
>be hoping for a solution to a similar problem. (Who >knows??.. maybe
>someone else has already posted something similar - >not the case at
>the time of my response.)
>
>In any case, regards,

>Richard

------- End of Forwarded Message
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 15:54:42 LCL
From:         Adrienne Jordan <JORDAN.A@EDGE-HILL-COLLEGE.AC.UK>
Subject:      Identify and Remove Duplicate Rows ?

Hi Geoff

You could try selecting distinct and creating a new table
CREATE temp_table AS SELECT DISTINCT * FROM orig_table
DROP orig_table
RENAME temp_table as orig_table

It may work!!

Adrienne
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 08:30:36 -0700
From:         Arthur Keller <ark@DB.STANFORD.EDU>
Subject: Re: Identify and Remove Duplicate Rows ?

If there are duplicate keys, but the non-key fields differ, then
SELECT DISTINCT won't work.  Try this standard SQL command to
identify the problem keys:

        SELECT key_name, COUNT (*)
        FROM your_table
        GROUP BY key_name

Arthur Keller
Stanford University
Computer Science Dept.
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Newsgroups: bit.listserv.jes2-l
Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 13:40:50 IST
From:         Doron Shikmoni <P85025@BARILVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Redirecting interrupted print job.

>We have on one of our systems 2 remote printer stations, one slow
>one fast. Sometimes a job is printing on the slow station while the
>fast one is idle. The operator interrupts the printer and redirects
>the job to the other remote ($R or $T). When the job is redirected
>CHKCRECN is reset to 0, so printing starts all over again. (Which is
>not what we want, since these jobs are often >100000 lines, and maybe
>40000 lines are already printed).
>The operators are sure that this did not happen with JES2 1.3.6, only
>since we moved to JES2 3.1.3. they have this problem.

I'm not near a manual now, but I'd suggest you take a look at
CKPTPAGE and CKPTLINE (or something similar) in the printer
definition. (Sorry if I mention something obvious). It might be
that some defaults have changed.

Doron
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:15:46 LCL
From:         "Larry Scollard (UNT)" <PA8250@UTKVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      JES2 Interface from IBM's TCP/IP V2

Greetings!

We have just upgraded our TCP/IP software on MVS from an old version 1
to version 2.2.0.  IBM TCP/IP v2 has the job submission/job retrieval/
job status/job delete interface to JES2 when using the FTP server.

Before we advertise this as a new service to all of our users, are there
any caveats, gotchas, or nasty problems to watch out for with this
interface?  I would be interested in the experiences of anyone running
IBM TCP/IP v2 who has made use of the JES2 interface.

Thanks for your help,

Larry Scollard
--------------
Sr. Systems Programmer/Analyst
UT Computing Center
University of Tennessee at Knoxville
Bitnet address:   PA8250@UTKVM1
Internet address: pa8250@utkvm1.utk.edu
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Organization: The World Bank - IBM Facility Center
Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 16:29:34 EDT
Comments:     Warning -- original Sender: tag was NETNEWS@IBRDVM1
From:         RMOTTA@IBRDVM1.BITNET
Subject:      Activating RACF JESSPOOL class for JES2
Comments: To: JES2-L@CEARN.BITNET, JES2-L@VTVM2.BITNET

I am planning to activate the JESSPOOL class in RACF 1.9 to protect our
JES2 4.2 spool files, replacing the old SDSF protection.

Has anyone had any experience with this ? I am specially concerned with:

1) Necessary maintenance to JES and RACF
2) TSO XMIT, Output command (option 3.4) and external writers

Thanks.
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Organization: Universitair RekenCentrum, KU Nijmegen, NL
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 12:22:41 MET
From:         Jos Wennmacker <U001222@HNYKUN11.URC.KUN.NL>
Subject:      Redirecting interrupted print job.

We have on one of our systems 2 remote printer stations, one slow
one fast. Sometimes a job is printing on the slow station while the
fast one is idle. The operator interrupts the printer and redirects
the job to the other remote ($R or $T). When the job is redirected
CHKCRECN is reset to 0, so printing starts all over again. (Which is
not what we want, since these jobs are often >100000 lines, and maybe
40000 lines are already printed).
The operators are sure that this did not happen with JES2 1.3.6, only
since we moved to JES2 3.1.3. they have this problem.
Any ideas, solutions?
Regards,
Jos Wennmacker
Universitair Centrum Informatievoorziening
Nijmegen, The Netherlands
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Date:         Sun, 16 Aug 1992 23:22:47 EDT
From:         Scott Ophof <ophof@SERVER.UWINDSOR.CA>
Subject:      No "Date:"-line?
Comments: To: x400-l@uga.cc.uga.edu

Would someone tell me the rationale behind X.400 gateways dropping
the "Date:"-line from the header of mail from outside X.400 going
to an X.400 site?

As I see it, this line contains information the *user* includes in
her/his/its mail, ie. MUA-data.  It's *not* MTA-related data.
At least I have never taken it as such...  Am I *that* far off-base?

And why doesn't X.400 include a timestamp when it started processing
the item?  Even surface mail includes this time, date, and location
in their cancellation of the postage stamps...

Thanks in advance.
Regards.
$$/
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Date:         Mon, 17 Aug 1992 11:11:00 EST
From:         nauen@WRAIR-EMH1.ARMY.MIL
Subject:      RE: No "Date:"-line?
Comments: To: x400-l <x400-l@uga.cc.uga.edu>
Comments: cc: ophof <ophof@server.uwindsor.ca>

Scott Ophof <ophof@SERVER.UWINDSOR.CA> writes

> Would someone tell me the rationale behind X.400 gateways dropping
> the "Date:"-line from the header of mail from outside X.400 going
> to an X.400 site?
>
> And why doesn't X.400 include a timestamp when it started processing
> the item?  Even surface mail includes this time, date, and location
> in their cancellation of the postage stamps...

As far as I know, mail which I've sent through gateways to X.400
addresses has always retained the date, and I think that a note I
recently received from an X.400 account contains both a timestamp
showing when originated and also a date header on an item received
from Internet and forwarded to me in its entirety.

So I wonder whether this isn't a fault of a particular gateway and/or
X.400 system with which you are corresponding.

Ric <nauen@wrair-emh1.army.mil>  <nauen%wrmain.decnet@detrick-emh1.army.mil>
           ^^^^^Walter Reed Army Institute of Research
        U.S. Army Medical Research and Development Command

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Ric,
Hi. I'm sending this from an Internet account to an Omnet mailbox
from which I will forward it to you.
From: S0001@CSUOHIO.BITNET (John P. Nolan 216-687-2150)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.ibm-hesc
Subject: Correction to Resent MSG
Date: 12 Aug 92 14:34:05 GMT
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Ok, last time, the meeting is at the HYATT Italian Suite on the Exhibition
Level (not at the Marriott).
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 12:44:00 PDT
Reply-To:     Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA>
From:         Leonard D Woren <LDW@USCMVSA.BITNET>
Subject:      Dropping MVS?
Comments: To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List <IBM-MAIN@RICEVM1.BITNET>,
              "IBM Higher Education Consortium" <IBM-HESC@PSUORVM.BITNET>

If your site has dropped MVS, or has current plans to do so, could you
drop me a short note?  Also, since they may no longer read IBM-MAIN,
if you know of other academic sites that have dropped MVS but may not
receive this note, could you tell me about them?  Maybe include a one
sentence description of why MVS is being or was dropped, along with
the complete name of the site.

This is not an idle survey; if there as many sites dropping MVS as I
suspect, it may actually be possible to get MVS added to the HESC...

I've set the Reply-To: to myself to keep the list clutter down.

/Leonard
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 00:31:24 EDT
From:         Leonard Boyle <LENBOYLE@CCVM.SUNYSB.EDU>
Subject:      re: dfdsm

Greetings Fred:

 I have a new product to be added to the HESC. The product is
DFDSM (IBM data facility distributed storage manager) product
number 5684-020. It is a successor product of WDSF/VM (IBM
Workstation Data Save Facility/VM). WDSF is now on the HESC.
See ann number 292-259.

                                  Thanks Len Boyle
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 08:38:00 EDT
From:         Chuck Sechler <TS0258@OHSTMVSA.BITNET>
Subject: re: dfdsm

Since there is one product number for the MVS and VM platform for DFDSM,
can we order this with the MVS feature numbers for our MVS system, given
that we have the right VM HESC group licensed? I assume this is in I-A4.
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Date:         Fri, 14 Aug 1992 09:38:19 +1000
From:         jane.hogan@CC.UTAS.EDU.AU
Subject:      PC courses
Comments: To: user-services-list@cc.utas.edu.au

Hi folks

Does anybody have documentation and/or course outlines for

Intro to DOS
Intro to Windows
Intro to Word for Windows

that they are happy to share?  We are about to embark on PC training (being
generally Mac orientated down here) and would to avoid re-inventing the
wheel if possible.



We have numerous course outlines for Mac courses (Intro to Mac, Word,
Excel, Works, FileMaker Pro, Canvas, PageMaker etc) that we are currently
tidying up and will be making available for FTP (real soon now ;-).

If you would like any of the above in a hurry - let me know and I will
e-mail you a copy.

Cheers

Jane


Jane Hogan       	       	       ph:  (002)  202811
University of Tasmania  	        fax: (002)  231772
GPO Box 252C    	       	       	e-mail  Jane.Hogan@cc.utas.edu.au
Hobart    Tasmania
Australia   7001
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Date:         Tue, 18 Aug 1992 16:21:15 -0500
From:         Scott.R.Barnett@CYBER.WIDENER.EDU
Subject:      Reply to Re: Remove me please!
Comments: To: ADVISE-L@UBVM.cc.buffalo.edu

>There is no escape !!!!!
>You'll be trapped in this forever!!!
>(By the way if anyone wants to take me off, go for it.  And, yes, I have tried
>via the listserv.)

Have you tried a GLOBAL command to see which server you are on.  There are 5
servers that are peer linked.

Scott Barnett
pysrbarnett@cyber.widener.edu
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 19:53:58 EDT
From:         John Niedfeldt <NIEDFELD@MIAMIU.BITNET>

Please take me off the list. Thanks      John Niedfeldt

                                         niedfeld@miamiu.bitnet
                                         niedfeld@miamiu.acs.muohio.edu
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 10:16:00 -0400
From:         MARKBAT@IDS.NET
Subject:      leave list
Comments: To: ADVISE-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

You have to send an unsub command to the listserv to get off
of the list, John.

Mark S. Barnett
markbat@ids.net
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Date:         Thu, 20 Aug 1992 18:17:16 +1000
From:         jane.hogan@CC.UTAS.EDU.AU
Subject:      course notes - delay
Comments: To: user-services-list@cc.utas.edu.au

Hello folks

Many thanks to all who have responded and offered courses outlines and/or
wish to trade... I have been ordered out of the office over the next two
weeks for training and holidays (not to be confused with one another ;-)

I will organise my course outlines and notes and make all available for FTP
when I return  - won't take long but it will take longer than I have
available today.

Cheers

Jane


Jane Hogan       	       	       ph:  (002)  202811
University of Tasmania  	        fax: (002)  231772
GPO Box 252C    	       	       	e-mail  Jane.Hogan@cc.utas.edu.au
Hobart    Tasmania
Australia   7001
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Via: uk.ac.cranfield.rmcs; Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:09:47 +0100
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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 17:12:00 BST
From:         Someday my time will come ? <TJK@RMCS.CRANFIELD.AC.UK>
Subject:      Re: test
Comments: To: ADVISE-L <ADVISE-L@UBVM.CC.BUFFALO.EDU>

Dear List,

I am getting sick and tired of all the "I got the test message." mails. I
already get to much junk mail and that just adds to it. Surely you can
manage to reply directly back to the person who originated the message.
Just think if there are 1,000 people on this list then 1,000 people would
of got that same message when it was only meant for one person.

This sort of thing is just the same as the people who send unsubscribe messages
to the whole list instead of the listserv at which they signed on to the list.
These people obviously do not read the introduction sent to them.

Tim

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Date:         Thu, 13 Aug 1992 09:38:50 EDT
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Subject:      Re: test
              12 Aug 1992 16:19:03 +0300 from <dnipron!ashokh@IG C.APC.ORG>

I got the test message.
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 16:19:03 +0300
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Subject:      test
Comments: To: glas!cdp!ADVISE-L@uga.cc.uga.edu

I've got your test message.
Cheers, Misha.
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Date:         Wed, 19 Aug 1992 11:34:25 LCL
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Subject:      adres

hi,
LIST,PLEASE.
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Date:         Wed, 12 Aug 1992 11:50:42 EDT
From:         "Matthew W. Hanley" <MWHANLEY@SUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Test messeges

Please send the "I got your test messege" messeges to the original
sender, not to the group.  I'm sure most of us have more mail than
we already need.

-matt
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