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From: endevour@wam.umd.edu (Afghan)
Subject: Re: Leadership quarrels 
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:39:37 GMT

In article <92352.095449OMARS@auvm.american.edu> <OMARS@auvm.american.edu> writes:
> stuff deleted
>
>        ISLAMABAD, Pakistan (UPI) -- Opponents of interim Afghan President
>Burhanuddin Rabbani called for his resignation Wednesday, asking him to
>quit immediately and transfer power to Vice President Mohammad Nabi
>Mohammadi, according to the Afghan News Agency.

And the winner is .......  Mohammad Nabi Pakistani 

ISI never had a more faithful servent than Mohammad Nabi Pakistani. 
At the begining of Jihad, when the fundamentalist groups were either
too small or non-existant, ISI was very generous towards all those 
who were willing to fight. The triditional Afghan students of Islamic
Studies, i.e the Talebs were among those who had began Jihad even in 
those early days. Mohammad Nabi was, back then, hand picked by ISI to head
a Tanzeem meant to arm the Talebs. It was latter when the fundamentalist
groups gained more power by the increased patronage of President Zia and 
Ambassador Thompson of U.S that the Talebs and their initial struggle
was ignored and the policy shifted towards more militant and politically 
brain washed fundamentalist groups. Mohammad Nabi, however, remained faithful 
to his bosses in ISI though the supply of weapons for the poor Talebs dropped
considerably. This drop was marked by a sharp rise in the arms quota of
Hekmatyar, Khalis and Sayaf who were given the credit of the Jihad fought
by none but the peaple of Afghanistan may that be the Talebs, Khans, Mullahs,
official workers, farmers or the intellectuals. Mohammad Nabi who owned his
existance to ISI watched and continued to serve ISI even more faithfully 
while the lack of arms for the Talebs caused them to endure heavy losses 
in the Jihad front.

Looks like Mohammad Nabi's betrayal of the innocent and trusting Talebs 
who at times were naive enough to consider him as a leader has payed 
off and ISI has decided to give a run of presidency to a long time faithful
servent. 

I knew a lot of Mojahed brothers who were basically Talebs turned Mojahed.
They were very good peaple. They shine with innocense and piety and are truly
a picture of what Islam, in its true and basic form ( not its new
politicized one) can do to you. These peaple shone with virtue and decency.

One of them was my friend who, before his last trip to Afghanistan, told
me that Abed brother something tells me I will not make it this time
around. He was right. He was martyred on the battle field while dashing forward,
a rocket launcher in hand, in order to shoot a Soviet tank. I am sure he
went straight to Janat. I always pray for him because he was a true Mojahed.

Look who died and who is reaping the sacrifice of millions of equally
pious Afghan brothers. It is enough to make your blood boil. 

H.Abed
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From: UPI
Subject: Exchange Rates (Tue Dec 15 1992)
Reply-To: ayman@eecs.umich.edu
Organization: United Press International
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:39:44 GMT
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                      USD per LL      LL per USD
                      Tue     Mon     Tue     Mon

Lebanon pnd       .000538 .000535 1858.00 1868.00
From: etamer@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Elie Tamer)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Israeli soldier killed by 'friendly fire'
Date: 17 Dec 92 03:23:58 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX
From: haidar@vlsi.CWRU.EDU (H. Harmanani)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: Palestinian deportees turned back by Lebanese
Date: 18 Dec 1992 16:14:05 GMT
Organization: Computer Engineering and Science/CWRU
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In article <CNV=HwB@engin.umich.edu>, Michael F. Kamprath <kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu> writes:

|> I got a question concerning this.  Of all the countries that Israel could deport
|> these people to, why Lebanon?  Is there a tie between these people and Lebanon?

To deport a group of people some country will have to accept taking them in.  I
doubt any country would do and since we Lebanon has been in a mess, open
border and an occupied zone, then it is easy to deport people there.  No ties.
-- 
H. Harmanani (haidar@alpha.ces.cwru.edu)
Dept. of Computer Engineering
Crawford Hall 215C
Case Western Reserve U
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From: kamprath@elnath.engin.umich.edu (Michael Fredric Kamprath)
Subject: Re: Palestinian deportees turned back by Lebanese
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 92 17:27:45 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: kamprath@elnath.engin.umich.edu


In article <BzK7LF.89@ccsun.strath.ac.uk>, ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz") writes:
> In article <BzJ72z.19J@ecf.toronto.edu> fahs@ecf.toronto.edu (FAHS Samir M) writes:
> >>In article <CNV=HwB@engin.umich.edu>, Michael F. Kamprath <kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu> writes:
> [  ...  ]
> >>> I got a question concerning this.  Of all the countries that Israel could deport
> >>> these people to, why Lebanon?  Is there a tie between these people and Lebanon?
> >>
> [  ...  ] 
> >
> >I believe that at least two people might have misunderstood Mr. Kamparth in
> >his question.  I happen to think that what Mr. kamparth had on mind is
> >more along the lines of what Haidar Harmanani answered to.
> >
> I don't think there were any misunderstandings here. First, the whole question
> is a deviation from the real issue, but what is more puzzling is the question
> about "a tie" between the deportees and the Lebanon.
> The question about "a tie" can introduce an element of humanitarianism to the
> deportation act. It might lead to the conclusion that Israel did not want to be
> totally hard on the palestinians and they had sent them to some people with
> whom they have ties. 
> 
> Is it not strange that while the world was watching this act with disbelief,
> an element of humanitarianism is being enquired about in this sad event?

You can see all the evil you want in my question.  I don't care.

But a country typically deports people to a country that they originally came from.
These deportees were Palestinians, so I didn't understand why Israel would send them
to Lebanon.

But as I said, if you want me to be insensitive, I can be insensitive.

Anyways, thanks to the people who understood the nature of my inquiry.

Michael F. Kamprath
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From: chao6@husc11.harvard.edu (James Chao)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon,soc.culture.magyar
Subject: World Model United Nations Conference in Czechoslovakia
Date: 21 Dec 92 05:28:47 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec21.002848.18737
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

To all those interested in international relations, politics, and the
United Nations: 

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Ten committees, representing the General Assembly, Economic and Social
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tomorrow's leaders about the United Nations and its methods of conflict
resolution.  It aims to foster skills in negotiation and debate, in order
that delegates may formulate resolutions on topics currently discussed in
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WorldMUN 1993 will take place at the Hotel Diplomat in Prague,
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Harvard World Model United Nations 1993
Suite 23, 1430 Massachusetts Avenue
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James Chao
chao6@husc.harvard.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Chicago
Date: Thursday, 17 Dec 1992 14:47:55 CST
From: Nasri <U38065@uicvm.uic.edu>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: TV stations

Does anybody have the complete list of all the T.V stations that are broadcasti
ng in Lebanon, and also who do they belong to (party or person) and what kind
of shows do they have.

And is TeleLiban getting any better with all of that competition?

I kow about VideoOne, an MTV like station owned by those who own RadioOne,
I know that there is the Mashrek of Walid beik, LBC, MoreTeleVision (MTV) ?
anything else?

What about the quality of the programs and censorhip, do the private TV station
s show explicit sexual scenes as much as did the LBC before and what kind of sh
ows are now popular back at home ?



Nasri


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From: 9999sc01@uhdvx3.dt.uh.edu (Alexandre Khalil)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.lebanon
Subject: Re: unhappy thoughts
Date: 19 Dec 1992 16:25 CDT
Organization: University of Houston-Downtown
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  Pilferred from soc.culture.jewish.

  An interesting parallel between the deportation of Palestinians Dec. 92 and
past persecution of Jews in Europe, late 30's

alex@dt.uh.edu

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In article <BzILG8.8nn@world.std.com>, elevine@world.std.com (Eugene Levine) writes...
>           On October 28 the Gestapo, on orders from 
>        the Foreign Office, began rounding up Polish 
>        Jews to transport them to the Polish border. 
>        Prevented from entering Poland, they were kept
>        in appalling conditions in a no-man's land
>        on the Polish side.... Grynszpan's parents had 
>        been among the first rounded up, and the son
>        had become unsettled by their fate.
>                                      The War Against The Jews
>                                      Lucy Dawidowicz
>   Grynszpan's anguish prompted him to kill Ernst vom Rath, and this, 
>in turn gave the German's a pretext to launch Kristallnacht.
>   I am troubled by two things: how can the Polish-Jewish leadership
>of Israel be unaware of this resonance; and, how can they
>hope to maintain such a situation with the whole world watching? 
>Public opinion may tolerate savagery in the Balkans, or 
>even in Israel's neighbors, but I doubt it will tolerate
>an endless winter of 400 people stranded by Israel between borders
>in the Middle East mountains. Regardless of the provocation!
>  Fair? perhaps, perhaps not. But Israel's claim to existence
>is largely moral, and her security interests can only be harmed by
>alienating civilized opinion.
>    Is it outrageous to speculate that the Israeli left - with 
>no stomach for uniformed killing - is resorting instead to a "washing
>their hands of it" strategy - if the Palestinians starve, it will 
>be the fault of the Lebanese (or the Arabs, or whoever), just like Gaza
>or the camps destroyed in 1982 were not their fault? Is it possible that
>the Right was right? that killing a few selected terrorists by 
>police or military is far preferable to "more humane" measures 
>like these - preferable because it selects the targets more carefully, 
>because it hits the targets (i.e., the *human* targets) more reliably 
>and more lethally, because it does not drag things out on the world
>stage? Etc., etc., etc.
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From: fahs@ecf.toronto.edu (FAHS Samir M)
Subject: Re: How do you say....
Organization: University of Toronto, Engineering Computing Facility
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 15:11:05 GMT

In article <92354.002052U38065@uicvm.uic.edu> Nasri <U38065@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>Ayeda, where are you originally from?  because in my 'milieu' we are used to
>say kol sana w inta be kheir and not tayebb.
>


I am not Ayeda :-). But I am Lebanese :-),and I grew up hearing the two words
"kheir" and "Tayebb" used interchangeably. Actually, though it was not a rule,
they were used in the following fashion

kel @am w-inta b-kheir 

and 

kel sana w-inta Tayebb.

Again, one could always hear them in all possible permutations.     

>Nasri
>

Samir M. Fahs


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Subject: Re: Shipping a car to Lebanon
From: hchammou@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 11 Dec 92 16:53:37 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

Bassam,

I think this guy can help you to ship your car.
He has been doing this for a while and he owns a "packaging service"
store. All I have is his home phone number, and you can mention that
I referred you to him. It may help a lot.
Anyway, here we go:

His name is Hassan Issa, phone is : (316) 636-4612

My name is Hassan Hammoud.

Hassan.
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From: hani@civil4.engin.umich.edu (Hani Abinassif)
Subject: Re: Palestinian deportees turned back by Lebanese
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 15:19:11 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Originator: hani@civil4.engin.umich.edu


In article <CNV=HwB@engin.umich.edu>, Michael F. Kamprath <kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu> writes:
> In article <1992Dec18.125152.13844@zip.eecs.umich.edu> UPI,  writes:
> >	RASHAYA, Lebanon (UPI) -- Hundreds of Palestinian fundamentalists
> >deported by Israel were turned back Friday by Lebanese troops when they
> >tried to cross into Lebanese-controlled territory, witnesses and
> >security sources said.
> 
> I got a question concerning this.  Of all the countries that Israel could deport
> these people to, why Lebanon?  Is there a tie between these people and Lebanon?

Whoever asked this question is really insensitive to the plight of those
deported, to say the least...This question implies that Israel has the
right to deport (underline deport) any Plaetsinian nationalist who opposes
their occupation.  The most naive part of the question is asking what
ties these people have with Lebanon, where it is obvious that their
ties are with their families, Women and Children, left behind...
I fail to see the innocense in posting such a question even...
 
> 
> ======================================================================
> |Michael F. Kamprath                   | The University of Michigan  |
> |  kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu |      Aerospace Engineering  |
> |  kamprath@engin.umich.edu            |      Graduate Student       |
> ======================================================================

-Hani
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From: waid@elaine29.Stanford.EDU (Walid F Nasrallah)
Subject: Re: Contacts with American University In Beruit- WANTED!!!
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
	<BzD42u.85D@ccsun.strath.ac.uk>
Date: 16 Dec 92 14:15:03

In article <BzD42u.85D@ccsun.strath.ac.uk> ccav38@ccsun.strath.ac.uk ("I.Ballouz") writes:

   Sometime ago, the following article was posted to this group.
   At the end of it, there is an e-mail address. You could try that

				    c70861:TRMETU.BITNET
				    Abdul-Ham`d Sadka

 Actually, I tried that myself a long time ago and it turned out that
Mr. Sadka was writing from Turkey, but just wanted to talk to AUB alumni.
Sorry  :( ......
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From: UPI
Subject: Bomb wounds 10 people in Palestinian shantytown
Reply-To: ayman@eecs.umich.edu
Organization: United Press International
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 14:54:03 GMT
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	RASHIDIYEH, Lebanon (UPI) -- A powerful bomb exploded in a Palestinian
refugee camp in southern Lebanon Saturday, wounding at least 10 people
and just missing the convoy of a Palestinian military official,
Palestinian security sources said.
	The roadside bomb with about 40 pounds of TNT exploded in the square
of the Rashidiyeh camp at the outskirts of the port of Tyre, 46 miles
south of Beirut, the sources said.
	The explosion occurred a few minutes after the convoy of Major Sultan
Abul Ainan, military commander of the mainstream Fatah movement in
southern Lebanon, crossed the square, they said. The convoy of six
civilian cars was not hit and Abul Ainan was not hurt, they said.
	Ten people were wounded, eight severely, and taken to a makeshift
hospital run by the Palestinian Red Crescent Society in Rashidieyh, the
sources said. Five shops and three cars were damaged in the explosion,
they said.
	If the bomb was aimed at Abul Ainan, it would mark the eighth attempt
on his life. Abul Ainan is also the spokesman of the Palestine
Liberation Organization in the Tyre region.
	Later, Abul Ainan accused the Mossad -- the Israeli intelligence
service -- and ``its agents'' of staging the bombing.
	``The Mossad and those agents are behind the explosion,'' he said
during a news conference at his headquarters in Rashidiyeh.
	He vowed to take the appropriate measures ``to punish any criminal
who would harm any of our people and disturb the stability of our women
and children in the camps.''
	``We asked the Lebanese police to investigate the incident which
differs from the previous ones,'' Abul Ainan said, referring to minor
bombing and shooting incidents in recent months blamed on the breakaway
Fatah-Revolution Council (FRC).
	Last month, Abul Ainan accused the FRC headed by Abu Nidal of sending
booby-trapped cars into the shantytowns to assassinate Fatah officials
loyal to PLO Chairman Yasser Arafat.
	Arafat's group and the FRC has been engaged in a bloody feud since
Jan. 1992. They have been battling for the control of Lebanon's refugee
camps and over the ongoing Mideast peace talks.
	Abu Nidal has rejected talking peace with Israel and pledged to
maintain armed struggle for a Palestinian homeland.
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Subject: Lebanese halt Israeli deportation attempt
From: hchammou@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu
Date: 18 Dec 92 13:07:39 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

From Associated Press
(Posted without Permission)
---------------------------
Jerusalem - Lebanese troops early today blocked a convoy of buses carrying 
Palestinians deported by Israel in a move to strike back at mounting violence
by Muslim fundamentalists.
  The deportations of about 400 Palestinians, which began Thursday, drew
widespread condemnation and raised fears that the fragile Middle East peace
process could shatter.
  The Lebanese army used earthen mounds to halt the first group of six buses
and ordered them to return to Israel's self-declared "security zone" in south
Lebanon about 3:15 a.m. local time, said Lebanese security sources.
  The Lebanese then reinforced the blockade with tanks and armored vehicles.
It was not immediately known if the Israeli-allied forces permitted the buses
back into the zone.
  Palestinians said the deportation effort by Israel jeopardizes the future of
U.S.-brokered peace talks. But Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin said swift
retaliation was needed to protect the Arab-Isareli negotiations from the rise
of Muslim fundamentalist power.
  Fundamentalists killed six Israeli troops this month in eight days, climaxing 
their actions this week by kidnapping and killing a border policeman.
  Rabin apparently gambled that peace talks are entering a moratorium until
after the Clinton administration's Jan. 20 inauguration, and that tempers will
have cooled by the time talks resume.
  The Palestinians, Syrians, and Jordanians boycotted Thursday's peace talks_
the last session of the current round.
  The United States regards deportations as illegal, and President Bush urged
Israel to stop them. Israel radio said Washington told Jerusalem that it would
not block a U.N. resolution today denoucing Israel. 
  The expulsions Thursday, the most sweeping since the early 1970s, were
delayed for 15 hours by the Supreme Court, leaving the Palestinians in buses on
the cold, rainy frontier, handcuffed, blindfolded and pounding windows in
frustration.
  Israel's surrogate militia, the Sout Lebanon Army, took charge of the
red-and-white buses in Zommaraya, on the edge of the zone. Sources in Lebanon
saw this as a bid by Israel to avoid confrontation with Lebanon's army.

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From: Michael F. Kamprath <kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu>
Subject: Re: Palestinian deportees turned back by Lebanese
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 11:09:17 EST
Organization: University of Michigan, Aerospace Engineering
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In article <1992Dec18.125152.13844@zip.eecs.umich.edu> UPI,  writes:
>	RASHAYA, Lebanon (UPI) -- Hundreds of Palestinian fundamentalists
>deported by Israel were turned back Friday by Lebanese troops when they
>tried to cross into Lebanese-controlled territory, witnesses and
>security sources said.

I got a question concerning this.  Of all the countries that Israel could deport
these people to, why Lebanon?  Is there a tie between these people and Lebanon?

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|  kamprath@space-grant.sprl.umich.edu |      Aerospace Engineering  |
|  kamprath@engin.umich.edu            |      Graduate Student       |
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