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From: shoham@ll.mit.edu (Daniel Shoham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Unrealistic space scenes
Date: 16 Dec 92 04:34:17 GMT
Organization: MIT Lincoln Laboratory

In article <1992Dec15.212616.24305@walter.bellcore.com> kenl@origami.cc.bellcore.com (Ken Lehner) writes:
>In article <BzBGqK.Cqy.1@cs.cmu.edu>, nickh@CS.CMU.EDU (Nick Haines) writes:
>|> In article <1gijgjEINN8jo@uni-erlangen.de> uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann) writes:
>|> 
>|> Cobblers. To fall towards the sun you angle the sail so that the net
>|> force (which is perpendicular to the sail) reduces your orbital
>          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Isn't this only true in a medium such as air?  The perpendicular force is
>due to lift generated by the passage of air around the sail (or other such
>lifting body).  A sail in space could only provide force directly away
>from the sun, no matter what the angle of said sail.

Actually, the concepts of resistive media and of lift are quite valid when
considering solar sails interaction with solar wind!

Angeling the sail would generate lift (if that what you want to call that
force).

>|> Anyone wanting to know more spend some time over on sci.space. I'm
>|> just passing through this newsgroup and I'm amazed at the amount of
>|> unscientific nonsense that is spouted in an authoritative manner here.
>
>Ahem.

Ahem, Ahem, Ahem.

Dan Shoham               shoham@ll.mit.edu
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From: labmas@stein.u.washington.edu (Michael Andersson)
Subject: Re: Favorite Movie One-Liners
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 23:09:31 GMT

>Let's not forget Arnold Schwazenegger's favourite line (found in quite a
>few of his earlier movies):
>
>"I'll be back"

I was under the impression that he uses that line in *EVERY* movie he's in.

>
>Or Cpl. Hicks (?) from Aliens:
>
>"Game over man!"

"It's a moral imperative."  Real Genius
Xref: sparky rec.arts.sf.movies:9481 rec.arts.movies:35691 alt.cult-movies:11362
From: scott@psy.uwa.oz.au (Scott Fisher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies,rec.arts.movies,alt.cult-movies
Subject: Re: SF Novels that would make Great Films
Date: 18 Dec 1992 08:39:15 GMT
Organization: The University of Western Australia
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Clarke's "Rendezvous with Rama" series...may be a bit slow for the average
audience...but plenty of scenes that should make the hair stand up on the 
back of your neck.

Scott.
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From: labmas@stein.u.washington.edu (Michael Andersson)
Subject: Re: Favorite Movie One-Liners
Organization: University of Washington, Seattle
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 16:54:17 GMT

In article <92Dec11.231037.19573@acs.ucalgary.ca> akctai@acs.ucalgary.ca (Alan Kar-cheung Tai) writes:

>Like the subject indicates, what are your favorite one-liners or quotes from
>sci-fi films?
>
>I'll start off by naming one:
>
>"I'm sorry Dave, but I can't do that."  (2001)
>
"I'll be back." --Ahnold
From: cam@syzygy.DIALix.oz.au (Cameron Newham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Jurassic Park - DNA in blood?
Date: 20 Dec 92 03:05:27 GMT
Reply-To: cam@syzygy.DIALix.oz.au
Organization: Baldrick Fan Club


In article <1517@ozz.oasis.icl.co.uk> sch@oasis.icl.co.uk writes:

 > ...
 > [Jurassic Park.]
 > 
 > had been found which still contained the blood of some dinosaur, and how they
 > manage to extract the DNA.

I have been told that blood is one of the few things that doesn't contain
DNA.  Anyone care to comment on this?

Apart from that, the idea behind JP is certainly valid - rather scary too.

(you could get around this problem by supposing that in penetrating the
dinosaurs skin the mossi picked up some tissue cells as well).

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From: qtm2w@Virginia.EDU ("Quinn T. McCord")
Subject: Re: favorite movie one-liners
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: rec
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 10:00:16 GMT


	I laughed out loud during this exchange between Hudson
and Vasquez in Aliens:

Hudson: Yo, Vasquez?  You ever been mistaken for a man?

Vasquez: No.  Have you?

						-Quinn
From: KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Dracula
Date: 16 Dec 92 13:34:00 GMT

Pamela Rush PKRUSH01@UKCC.UKY.EDU writes:
>How about that *daylight* scene?

Well, I haven't seen the movies yet, so I can't comment on it (although I 
keep *meaning* to see it, but other things come up :-)) but:
In the novel, Dracula does wander around London in the daylight.

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From: jk87377@cc.tut.fi (Juhana Kouhia)
Subject: Re: T2 wish list.
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 21:48:01 GMT


In article <1992Dec16.181710.13216@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson) writes:
>
>Most of these were cut from the theatrical and video releases.
>Please note, foreign audiences: In missing these "glitching"
>scenes you have NOT missed anything that American audiences
>saw.

Also this I don't understand; why you separate foreign audiences?
The glitch we had in theater was that ripple rolling over
T-1000 after he managed the hand of T-800.

So, I understood that you also didn't see anything else.
And thus, why the separation?

How American and European theater releases differs?
I have heard that some of USA people didn't see how
Sarah shoots through car in parking hall of hospital.
We saw it.


>detailed in the screenplay of Terminator 2, available here in
>the U.S. for about $20.00. Not a bad price, but still too much

Illustrated screenplay, Terminator 2
ISBN 1-55783-097-5  New York: Applause Books, USA Phone: (212)595-4735


Juhana Kouhia
From: KitchenRN@SSD0.LAAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Coming Attractions
Date: 14 Dec 92 13:37:00 GMT

An upcoming movie, tentatively scheduled for release in January:

Rain Without Thunder
Starring Jeff Daniels, Betty Buckley and Linda Hunt; directed by Gary 
Bennett.  Taz Productions.

In this futuristic and all too relevant tale from the year 2042--twenty years 
after abortion has been made illegal by Constitutional amendment -- a mother 
and daughter are convicted of fetal kidnapping and sentenced to seven years 
in prison.  The near-documentary style of the film tells a compelling story 
of the political decision-making process in America, and the effect that it 
can have on individual lives.

(This excerpt from "Scene At the Movies" Magazine.)
From: swinokur@cellar.org (Steve Winokur)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Favorite Movie One-Liners
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:49:43 GMT
Organization: The Cellar BBS and public access system

01fortec@ac.dal.ca writes:

> This is probably cheating, but my favorite one-liner happened in real
> life. It was a magnificent understatement by the pilot of an Apollo 
> mission when he announced they had lost a fuel cell. He opens up
> with a calm:
> 
> "Houston, we have a problem."
> 
> No shit, batman!
> 
> Joe
> 01fortec@ac.dal.ca

Fuel Cell?!  Are you referring to Apollo 13?  Heh... The correlations with
two-thousand-and-one (heheh) are suprising...

The name of the command module: Odyssey...

They were playing the Richard Strauss Zarathustra theme...

And it was an Oxygen Tank that ruptured, by the way :).


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From: mccreary@sword.eng.hou.compaq.com (Ed McCreary)
Subject: Re: SF Novels that would make Great Films
Organization: Compaq Computer Corp.
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 15:36:03 GMT

It's not really sf, but I always though that F. Paul Wilson's
_The Tomb_ could be made into a terrific movive.  Get John McTiernan
to direct it.

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From: chrstie@ccu.umanitoba.ca (William John M. Christie)
Subject: Re: Favorite Movie One-Liners
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:51:14 GMT

Let's not forget Arnold Schwazenegger's favourite line (found in quite a
few of his earlier movies):

"I'll be back"

Or Cpl. Hicks (?) from Aliens:

"Game over man!"


Will Christie
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From: cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike")
Subject: Re: SF Novels that would make Great Films
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:33:53 GMT

> Everybody's forgotten the classics.
> 
> Hienlien's "The Moon Is A Harsh Mistress" or "Starship Trooper" have
> potenial as does "Stranger In A Strange Land" if they could get it past
> the Bible thumpers and keep De Lorenta away from it.  

	I don't think that "Moon is a Harsh Mistress" would be
that good.  There is too much thought in the book which would
not transfer well to screen (remember the overdub in "Blade
Runner"?).
  
> Asimov's "Caves of Steel" would be excellent.  Casting  Brent Spiner 
> (Star Trek's Data) as Daneel Obivjaw (spelling?) against Danny Glover 
> as Lije would be brilliant.  Harrison Ford would be okay too. Bonus
> sequel potential with rest of trilogy.

	The Robot Novels would be pretty good as films, but
they can't compare to the Foundation Trilogy, the first three
of which are Asimov's best books, but you couldn't do those as
films either.
	Why is everyone harshing on the end of "Sphere"?  How
else could the book have ended?  I think it is a neat way to
wrap up the whole idea of the power of imagination in the
novel.  How would you people like it to end?  With a bunch of
aliens coming up to the water's surface in a bad special
effects sequence with the lead character telling everyone to
"keep their pantyhose on"?

> Now back to the qustion at hand. The Russian Sleigh (read : SLAY!).  And
> the answer is me. 'Cause I'd have to be tied up to get in that situation
> and wouldn't be able to toss the others out.

	Hooray.
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From: carney@rocky.rational.com (Mike Carney)
Subject: Re: Favorite Movie One-Liners
Organization: Rational, Santa Clara, CA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 22:16:18 GMT

In article <BzBJ9F.CD0@ccu.umanitoba.ca> chrstie@ccu.umanitoba.ca (William John M. Christie) writes:

>
>Let's not forget Arnold Schwazenegger's favourite line (found in quite a
>few of his earlier movies):
>
>"I'll be back"
>
>Or Cpl. Hicks (?) from Aliens:
    ^^^^^^^^^^
Actually, it was private Hudson
>
>"Game over man!"
>
But it is a cool line!

>Will Christie

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From: ctk@well.sf.ca.us (Cassandra T. Kamuchey)
Subject: Re: SF Novels that would make Great Films
Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 04:44:50 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.053427.12775@Virginia.EDU> cew2w@Virginia.EDU ("Chris Wrike") writes:
>stame@emunix.emich.edu  writes:> 
>> 	If you were riding in a Russian sleigh pursued by hungry wolves
>> 	and had to throw out one passenger to lighten your load and your
>> 	only travelling companions were McCaulay Culkin and Wesley
>> 	Crusher, who would you jettison and why?
>> 
>> 	-- Stewart "I'd chuck *both* of 'em" Tame
>> 
>
>	I'd jump out myself.  Better company.
>
>	--Chris Wrike
>



	Yeeaah!  The ultimate answer to a cruel dilemma.
Question: How did you allow yourself to be stuck in a sleigh with Weasley
and that passive agressive dwarf?
From: v104n55k@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (David I Schwartz)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: ZARDOZ
Keywords: ZARDOZ
Date: 17 Dec 92 02:23:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <7537@bigbird.hri.com.hri.com>, fleurant@hri.com (P.Fleurant) writes...
>Zardoz, written, directed and produced by J.Boorman is out 
>on tape. (CBS video)
> 
>It is uncut!   
> 
>This 1974 film stars  S.Connery (007) in a very non-James Bond
>role with C. Rampling.
> 
>IMHO this movie is still way ahead of its time and no other SF film
>has since come close to its satire, comedy, and drama.
> 
>----------
>P.Fleurant

How many scenes have been added? Zardoz is one of my all time favorites.


David I. Schwartz
V104N55K@ubvms.cc.buffalo.edu
From: cam@syzygy.DIALix.oz.au (Cameron Newham)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Sick of DECKARD!!!!!
Distribution: world
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 92 10:52:01 GMT
Organization: Baldrick Fan Club
Reply-To: cam@syzygy.DIALix.oz.au


In article <6245@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at> mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at writes:

 > 
 > From article <724420380snx@syzygy.DIALix.oz.au>, by cam@syzygy.DIALix.oz.au >  (Cameron Newham):
 > > Look!  It doesn't matter if Deckard was a replicant or not!  It won't
 > > change the movie!
 > 
 > It does.  Perhaps you don't get it, but it does.

No it doesn't.  It changes any *subsequent* plots/themes/ideas.  Whether
Deckard is/isn't makes not one iota of difference to the film - only
in your mind :)

 >  Anyway, the
 > discussion on this topic has been dead for weeks, and everybody's glad

No - I just received a whole lot of posts indicating Deckard is about
6 or 7 different things.

 > about it, too.  Why do you bring it up again?  Are you so far behind
 > on your newsreading, or are you an agent provocateur sent by the
 > forces behind the rec.arts.sf.movies.bladerunner proposal?

I neither confirm nor deny this.

 > If you meet Deckard on the road, kill him.

Yes, run him over.  If he gets up he must be a replicant.  :)

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From: mabw0164@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: Trying to remember a movie
Date: 21 Dec 92 04:12:23 GMT
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

In article <1992Dec19.141834.866@uunet!cbmvax!xmws!kripalu>, harit@kripalu.com writes:
> I have been trying to remember the name of an SF movie.  Something like "The  
> Questor Tapes" about a robot that was left behind by it's inventor.  When the  
> humans could not get it to boot they left and he woke up and proceeded to make  
> himself more human looking.  He ended up being the last guardian of the Earth.   
> The final scene was at the mountan where the Arc landed implying that Moses was  
> also a guardian.  It was a pilot for a series but I heard the network wanted a  
> run for your life type show and the creator refused to do that to his work.
> -- 
> Michael Allen Latta
> Kripalu Center
> harit@kripalu.com
> (413)448-3288


It was indeed "The Questor Tapes".  I think it was one of a series of 
made-for-TV movie-pilots by Gene Rodenberry that didn't make it. (check
with Judex on that one. My copy of Leonard Maltin's book doesn't list it
anymore, but a previous edition did). Another that came out about the same
time was "Genesis II" with Alex Cord.

Joe
01fortec@ac.dal.ca
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From: pejulaju@wolverine.cs.hut.fi (Pentti Lajunen)
Subject: Re: Sick of DECKARD!!!!!
Reply-To: pejulaju@niksula.hut.fi (Pentti Lajunen)
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 14:28:43 GMT

In article <1go0jbINNdij@function.mps.ohio-state.edu> edgar@function.mps.ohio-state.edu (Gerald Edgar) writes:
>
>Deckard will be played by Macaulay Culkin in the sequel...

....you surely mean PREQUEL ? (or then again Deckard IS a replicant so
he can be a Nth clone of the original Deckard.)

That's fine with me, as long as they cast Schwarzenegger, Stallone, Dolph
Lungren, Jean-Claude van Damme, and other unbeatable macho heroes
as replicants who try to (and will) beat shit out of Deckard.

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From: tara@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Lady Johanna Constantine)
Subject: Re: favorite movie one-liners
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: rec
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 18:41:46 GMT

ooooh, he's my fave from NIGHTFLYERS, a film that
can't decide if it wants to be an sf flick or a slasher flick:

"Actually, I shouldn't call her my mother.  I'm her cross-sex clone."


Yup.  That just about sums that one up.  As spoken by Michael Praed's
character, Royd the holigram captain.


LJC
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From: alien@acheron.amigans.gen.nz (Ross Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re:  Favorite Movie One-Liners
Date: 19 Dec 92 14:43:58 GMT+12
Distribution: world
Organization: Muppet Labs

In article <1992Dec15.204903.10560@scott.skidmore.edu> gschlesi@scott.skidmore.edu (Christopher Robin) writes:
>"Apology accepted, Admiral."  -Darth Vader after he chokes the guy.

"Dick, I'm *very* disappointed." (The Old Man, in Robocop, after ED-209
                                  goes berserk. The guy who played the Old
                                  Man said in an interview that this line
                                  was the main reason he took the part.)

"Nothing shocks me -- I'm a scientist." (Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom)

And if I can get away with a two-liner (from Blue Thunder) :

   "The guy checks his sanity with a stopwatch!"
   "What do you test yours with, a dipstick?"


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From: mst@vexpert.dbai.tuwien.ac.at (Markus Stumptner)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.movies
Subject: Re: HIGHLANDER II..seen extra scenes!!!
Date: 12 Dec 92 15:46:55 GMT
Organization: DB and ES Subdivision, TU Vienna

From article <1992Dec12.131321.5541@news2.cis.umn.edu>, by donnell@tuna.micro.umn.edu (BogusMan):
> Wimp. everybody whined for a sequel that would explain the first movie. 

Indeed?  Why would anybody need to have Highlander explained to him?

> the first one makes no sense. I have seen it lots of times, and while it is
> pretty, nothing is explained.

Looks like that is *your* view, not everybody's.
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From: sdt8s@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (Steve Tilson)
Subject: Re: T2 wish list.
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:29:32 GMT

chandler@maths.tcd.ie  writes:
> Given that it appears currently be the fashion to release 
> D.C.'s here's my wish list of what Cameron should do...
> 
> In order of priority
> 
> 1	At the end of the film drop Sarah's cringe-making
> 	"maybe we can to" line and cut straight to the 
> 	credits.

Why not go the whole nine yards and delete all of her
voice-overs? I found every single word she spoke, except during
the prologue, to be tedious and suspense-killing. And the final
v.o. was just the worst of the lot. It ALL needs to go.

> 
> 
> 	e, Scenes showing the T-1000 "glitching". (Yes we are
> 	   clever enough to understand this)

Yes, I'd like to see this too. Although there is one
"glitching" scene in the movie: right after Arnie gets his arm
stuck in the gear, the T-1000 turns away from him and "ripples."

> 4	Append scenes cut for "artistic" reasons to the end of    
> 	the final credits.

Didn't you pretty much list all the cut scenes under what you
wanted put back in? (The ones that actually were filmed, that
is.)


Steve
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