HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: clare@nynexst.com (Clare Chu)
Subject: Flu Shot While Pregnant?
Organization: Nynex Science and Technology
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 92 13:13:39 GMT


  Does anyone know if it is okay for me to get
  a flu shot while pregnant?  The flu shot is
  made of chicken egg and I had one last year
  with no side effects.  Neither my husband nor
  midwife knew the answer and said that since
  they didn't know they thought I shouldn't
  get one.  So I'm asking to see if anyone
  knows why I shouldn't get one.  I have until
  tomorrow (Friday) to get a free flu shot from
  my work.  Please get back to me soon.

  Thanks, Clare
  clare@nynexst.com
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: boebert@sctc.com (Earl Boebert)
Subject: Overcoming Depression 2.0
Organization: SCTC
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 02:07:47 GMT

This program is being marketed by Dr. Kenneth Mark Colby, professor
emeritus of Psychiatry and Biobehavioral Sciences at UCLA.  Anybody
know anything about it or him?  I already have the references off of
Medline.

Earl
Newsgroups: sci.med,alt.sex
From: asparrow@mcs213f.cs.umr.edu (Angelia Sparrow)
Subject: Re: Ovulation and Pregnancy, Information Wanted
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:37:50 GMT
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

Sperm can live for up to 72 hours.
This means that you can get her pregnant
by having sex 2-3 days before she ovulates, while she
is ovulating and. since the egg lives about 2 days,
for about 2 days after.

If she's been on the pill, it may take longer.
But it may not.  

Good luck.
Angel
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: des@helix.nih.gov (David E. Scheim)
Subject: Re: Bernie Siegel & Cancer
Organization: NIH
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 14:45:53 GMT

>My father, for example, went through two years of chemotherapy with
>only a slowing of the cancer spread, no remission.  He tried the
>alternative approaches for six months, and had only a faster
>spreading of the cancer as a result.  The next three and a half years

Do you know which alternative approaches he tried?  The Office of Technology 
assessment recently catalogued several dozen of them, and found some 
ineffective and some potentially valuable.  The NCI is currently conducting 
a clinical trial of one approach developed in Houston, which has yielded 
some documented cures of intractable maligancies.   

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From: sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: SHINGLES
Date: 9 Oct 92 00:17:38 GMT
Article-I.D.: netcom.1992Oct9.001738.538
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)

In article <16864@pitt.UUCP> geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks) writes:
>In article <1992Oct6.023312.4063@netcom.com> sue@netcom.com (Sue Miller) writes:
>
>>Stupid question time:  my SO contracted chicken pox in his teens.
>>During his illness, his father got a flaming attack of shingles.
>>Did the first event possibly set off the second?  His father was
>>around 50 at the time, and had had chicken pox as a child.
>
>Probably your SO got chicken pox from your father's shingles.
>Otherwise it was just a coincidence.
>

Could have been a coincidence.  His father came down with
symptoms during SO's illness.  He likely contracted chicken
pox at school, he was away from home for 6th form (he grew
up in a small village and left home at 16 for further education).  
He came home when he became ill, and then his father became ill.
Newsgroups: sci.med
From: cec@leland.Stanford.EDU (Charles Cunningham)
Subject: Re: dangers of microwaving
Summary: carcinogens in cooked food
Organization: Lawrence Livermore National Lab, Livermore, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 92 05:01:49 GMT


My wife is in a group at LLNL which looks at the formation of certain
carcinogens in foods such as cooked meat.  Some of the nastiest
carcinogens are known as "heterocyclic amines" and are formed by
cooking meat at high temperature.  They find a much lower concentration
of heterocyclic amines in boiled meat and in meat cooked in a
microwave oven.  An amusing aspect of their research is that they are
getting funding from the Beef Board to look for these carcinogens in
vegetables such as wheat gluten.  Apparently, the Beef Board is eager
to get out of the carcinogen limelight.

There is another class of carcinogenic compounds which are formed by
burnt fat and carried in the smoke onto the meat.  I do not recall the
name of this type of carcinogen, but I'm sure somebody in netland knows.

Charles E. Cunningham
Lawrence Livermore National Lab
7000 East Avenue, L-402
Livermore, CA 94550
cec@imager.llnl.gov

My opinions do not necessarily reflect the views of Lawrence Livermore
National Lab, the University of California, or the Department of Energy.

Newsgroups: sci.med,sci.med.nutrition
From: yazz@locus.com (Bob Yazz)
Subject: Re: Homeopathy
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 01:24:27 GMT

bsimon@elvis.stsci.edu (Bernie Simon) writes:

| For your information, there are double blind studies which show the
| effectiveness of homeopathic treatment. One that I remember was
| published in Lancet.

If these were the studies done a few years ago, in France I think it
was, they were found irreproducible a little while later.  Before that
tho, they did create quite a stir.

Why don't you go ahead and post the reference as you offered, so we
can tell if your study is the same or different from the one I'm
talking about.

== Bob Yazz ==
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sickness itself.
From: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Interim Report From FAQ Working Group
Date: 9 Oct 92 17:39:13 GMT
Reply-To: geb@cs.pitt.edu (Gordon Banks)
Organization: Univ. of Pittsburgh Computer Science

The stuff about shingles is a good example of FAQ.  If
you put that in there we won't have to answer that question
again next time.
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From: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Giving Blood! "Gimme that thing, I'll do it myself"
Date: 7 Oct 92 18:05:25 GMT
Reply-To: jack@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Jack Campin)
Organization: COMANDOS Project, Glesga Yoonie

yozzo@watson.ibm.com (Ralph Yozzo) wrote:
> Has anyone else run into the following situation:
> You need to give blood for a blood test and the nurse looks at
> your arms and says you have small veins.  Then, the nurse proceeds
> to stick your arm and miss the vein.  The nurse then complains that 
> you have rolling veins.  The nurse switches to the other arm and
> sticks and misses again saying that the vein is deeper than it appears.
> The nurse then calls in an expert for help.  The expert has no 
> problem drawing the blood.

In my experience it's always been the other way round: the "expert" fumbles
and the nurse gets it right.  With this sort of motor skill, you don't need
a postgraduate degree, you need practice.  Most nurses get more of that than
doctors do.

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From: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com (PAM DRAPER)
Subject: A Chiropractor for Sinuses?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   
Reply-To: draper@gnd1.wtp.contel.com
Organization: GTE Government Systems, Federal Systems Division, Chantilly, VA
Distribution:  world
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 21:15:34 GMT

I have a long history of allergies and chronic stuffy nose.  My friend
keeps telling me to go to a chiropractor.  I think he's nuts.  Does
anyone have a comment on this type of treatment?




Newsgroups: sci.med
From: jpalmier@rvgs.vak12ed.edu (Jim Palmieri)
Subject: Re: Peroxide and the bubbling reaction?
Organization: Virginia's Public Education Network (Roanoke)
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 92 16:59:47 GMT

The answer is very simple.  All living cells contain vessicles
that contain an enxyme called peroxidase.  It is an enzyme that
changes hydrogen peroxide to oxygen and water and it does it in
about a millionth of a second.  Hydrogen peroxide is produces
in several cell respiration reactions and when purines are
degraded by either bacteria or by the cell.  
Dr, James R. Palmieri
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   Dr. Jim Palmieri
From: mgflax@munch.Princeton.EDU (Marshall G. Flax)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: EYE PAIN RELIEF
Date: 12 Oct 92 15:38:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Oct12.153822.20753
Organization: Princeton University

In article <16876D9AF.M20614@mwvm.mitre.org> M20614@mwvm.mitre.org (Hugh Pritchard) writes:
>First, do you know the distinctions among eye care people?
>   a)  OPTICIAN -- A technician who manufactures (or buys from wholesalers),
>       fits, and sells eyeglasses and contacts.

I believe that opticians are *not* licensed to fit contact lenses.  It's
a rather complex and difficult procedure, so I'd be suprised if any
state allowed it.

>   b)  OPTOMETRIST -- An O.D. (Doctor of Optometry) measures refractive
>       errors in the eye; prescribes glasses/contacts; screens for more
>       serious eye problems; and, in some states, can prescribe some eye
>       medication.  Sometimes (often?) the optometrist has opticians on-
>       premises.

Optometrists also specialize in functional (rather than organic) visual
problems.  They can train patients to use their eyes together for stereo
fusion, analyze visually-related learning disorders, etc.

>   c)  OPHTHALMOLOGIST -- An M.D., with additional training in ophthalmology,
>       who takes care of diseases of the eye and other major eye problems.
>       An ophthalmologist can also prescribe glasses/contacts, but if you
>       need an invasive procedure or medications, only the ophthalmologist
>       can come through for you.

More simply, ophthalogists specialize in organic problems of the eye.

>   d)  OCULIST -- An archaic term, referring to ophthalmologists, and possibly
>       also optometrists.

This term is definitely archaic and probably only confuses things.

marshall 
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From: mdebuitlear@vms.eurokom.ie
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Put up or shut up  (was: alternative medicine newsgroup)
Date: 9 Oct 92 09:43:13 CET
Organization: EuroKom Conferencing Service

In article <1asd90INNhce@cs.utexas.edu>, turpin@cs.utexas.edu (Russell Turpin) writes:
> Your posts were not ignored.  Both Gordon Banks and I asked you
> some very basic questions about the subjects on which you posted.
> The questions I remember included:
> 
>   o  How does one measure qi?
> 
>   o  What basic experiments show its existence and behavior?
> 
>   o  For what phenomena does traditional Chinese medical theory
>      provide a better explanation than current western medicine?
> 
> You ignored these questions.  That is where the dialogue stopped.
> 
>> Anyway, I welcome more scientific inquiry into Chinese medicine.
> 
> So would I.  The ball has been in your court for some months now.
> You're the one who has read about traditional Chinese medical
> theory.  Please proceed.
> 
I believe that a certain type of photograph (the name eludes me, I'm afraid)
shows up the electrical fields in and around the body.  These fields run in an 
organised manner.  In fact, after the amputation of say a leg, the energy 
continues to flow uninterrupted for quite for some to where the leg used to 
be.  In addition, a before and after photograph proves that the flow of energy 
changes after a session of acupuncture.  

As energy flows along meridans (channels), various points along these channels 
are used to treat imbalances.  These points have been documented for thousands 
of years.  In recent times, an electronic device has been invented which by 
measuring electrical resistance in the skin can pinpoint very accurately the 
same points as being points of lowest resistance - a bit of a co-incidence ?

Chinese medical theory provides a better explanation than current western 
medicine for, amoung many others,
 
Asthma,Hayfever,Epilepsy,Backache,Irritable Bowel Syndrome,Arthritis,
Rheumatism,Common Cold,Depression,Obesity,Lethargy,Strokes,Frozen Shoulder 
Migraine, etc. etc.

Btw, how would you provide a placebo in acupuncture - pretend to stick the 
neddles in ?

Micheal.

M.De.Buitlear@EuroKom.ie
From: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Giving Blood! "Gimme that thing, I'll do it myself"
Date: 15 Oct 1992 14:14:13 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: ar710@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (William G. Martin)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, johnl@iecc.cambridge.ma.us (John R. Levine) says:
>You can say that again.  If you want to see someone who gets the vein the
>first time every time with a rather large needle, drop by your local Red
>Cross blood donor center.  When you draw blood 100 times a day, you get
>good at it.  And the Red Cross nurses are hardly rocket science types.

Unfortunately, this is not always the case, or perhaps it varies with
the region. Here in St. Louis, MO, I've stopped donating blood (after giving
about 4 gallons over the years) due to the incompetence of the Red Cross
personnel drawing blood, and the unpleasant aftereffects. I note that at
least one other poster mentioned that they had also stopped donating for 
similar reasons.

I do not think that is (totally) due to my personal vein anatomy, since
I have had painless and no-afterwards-bruising blood draws in my MD's
office. Again, of course some medical technicians are far better 
than others at this. I've also had just-as-bad bruising and pain from 
a sloppy blood draw in a medical office as I had from an RC donation.
(One time I had a blood-test draw one day, and a blood donation a few
days later from the other arm. Both arms had huge bruises on the inside for 
a week or more afterwards.)

Since the blood donation is always taken from the same arm region, even if
they use one or the other arm, is it possible that a many-times-repeated
donor, as I am (or was) will have a buildup of scar tissue on that
portion of the arm veins which will cause the ill-aftereffects of donation
to get worse and worse over the years? Does the RC have any alternate locations
(wrist, upper arm, leg?) to extract blood, or do they just decline you
as a donor once the traditional inside-of-elbow spots are "worn out"?
-- 
Will Martin
wmartin@stl-06sima.army.mil OR wmartin@st-louis-emh2.army.mil
From: phc002@art.osaka-med.ac.jp (suzuki)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Ibuprofen
Date: 14 Oct 92 01:39:11 GMT
Organization: Osaka Medical College, Takatsuki, Osaka

In article <1992Oct12.183749.21577@netcom.com> noring@netcom.com (Jon Noring) writes:
>
>I'd like to know about any adverse effects from taking Ibuprofen for an
>extended period of time.  A related question is at what dosage can one 

I have old article about Ibuprofen,
and I repost it.

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From: aschlie@uoft02.utoledo.edu (A.Schliesser)
Newsgroups: sci.med
Subject: Re: Prolonged use of Ibuprofen
Date: 16 Aug 92 01:52:08 GMT
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

For the average person, 3,200mg of ibuprofen is the max. daily limit. This
number decreases with renal disease and age.

As for the side effects, the most common is irratation of the stomach. This can
be prevented by taking ibuprofen with a meal.  

Long term studies have been done and suggest that *HIGH* doses for along peroid
of time can cause significant renal imparement.  From your discription, you do
not fit in the *HIGH* dose catagory.

Hope this answers some of your questions,

TS
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Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: skeeter@skatter.usask.ca
Subject: Re: KM vitamines
Organization: University of Saskatchewan
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 17:52:46 GMT

From article <1992Oct13.151141.7995@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, by joni@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joni.dunlap):
> have a girlfriend that is selling this vitamine suppliment called KM.
> She has been trying to sell me this stuff for about 6 months now. She
> claims that you will instantly start feeling better within a week of using 
> the stuff on a daily basis. Well the stuff is expensive and sound like a
> lot of snake oil. Any and all comments welcome.
> 
> Joni :)

I doubt she can beat $0.06 a day for a good multi-vitamin/mineral
supplement!  "instantly start feeling better within a week"?  That's
a pretty long instant!  Or does she mean that sometime during the
week your body will go "boing!" and you'll feel great?  :)

I'd have to know what's in "KM vitamine supplement" before I could
denounce it as "snake oil".  It might just be overpriced!


DISCLAIMER:  I am not a doctor, I am a Systems Analyst.  Free advice is
	worth every penny!  :)

--
skeeter@skatter.usask.ca			no nifty .sig

The weight of one's wallet is inversly proportional to the size of
one's heart.   -- me
From: skeeter@skatter.usask.ca
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: KM vitamines
Date: 16 Oct 92 02:45:59 GMT
Organization: University of Saskatchewan

From article <1992Oct15.223616.15637@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, by joni@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joni.dunlap):
> In article <1992Oct13.175246.27542@access.usask.ca> skeeter@skatter.usask.ca writes:
>>From article <1992Oct13.151141.7995@cbfsb.cb.att.com>, by joni@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (joni.dunlap):
>>> have a girlfriend that is selling this vitamine suppliment called KM.
>>> She has been trying to sell me this stuff for about 6 months now. She
>>> claims that you will instantly start feeling better within a week of using 
>>> the stuff on a daily basis. Well the stuff is expensive and sound like a
>>> lot of snake oil. Any and all comments welcome.
>>> 
>>> Joni :)
>>
>>I doubt she can beat $0.06 a day for a good multi-vitamin/mineral
>>supplement!  "instantly start feeling better within a week"?  That's
>>a pretty long instant!  Or does she mean that sometime during the
>>week your body will go "boing!" and you'll feel great?  :)
>>
>>I'd have to know what's in "KM vitamine supplement" before I could
>>denounce it as "snake oil".  It might just be overpriced!
>>
>>
> 
> I just found out that this stuff is not a vitamine it is an herbal tonic.
> It is called Matol Km. It comes out of Canada and supposedly been around
> for many years. 
> 
> Joni :)

I thought to myself "something about this sounds familiar" but I
couldn't quite place it.  Now that you mention "Matol" I recognise
it and my synapses are going "boing!" [doubtless that if I used 
"Matol Km" my head would have exploded!]

As I recall [feel free to correct me  :) ] Matol is sold by one 
of those evil [heh!] multi-level marketing companies.  When
investigated because of sellers claims that Matol cured
everything from colds to cancer, the company simply stated that
the sellers were not employees and could not be controlled. 

A chemist analysed Matol and said, essentially, that it's
useless as a vitamin supplement.  Some of the stuff (like
tree bark??) might even be detrimental if taken for long
periods.


DISCLAIMER:  I am not a doctor, I am a Systems Analyst.  Free advice is
	worth every penny!  :)

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one's heart.   -- me
From: paul@clodii.Columbia.NCR.COM (Paul Fidler)
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
Subject: Re: Need hi-cal nutritional drinks / food for sick persons weight gain
Date: 8 Oct 92 20:16:24 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NCR E&M Columbia SC

In article <1992Oct8.102042.7407@iscsvax.uni.edu> howard@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>In article <1992Oct8.014722.17972@netcom.com>, amyk@netcom.com (Amy Kurtzman) writes:
>> My Mother was ill and had surgery this summer. As a result,
>> she has lost over 25 pounds and only weights 85 pounds now. She has
>> been unable to gain any weight back. She is not eating enough to begin
>> with, because many foods upset her stomach now and nothing seems
>> appetizing to her. She also can't eat much at one sitting either.
>> 
>
>One drink you could make at home would be a frozen banana shake. Peel
>bananas and put in freezer overnight. Take out of freezer and thaw
>about 10 minutes at room temperature or about 1 minute in a microwave. 
>Combine 2 bananas in a blender with 1 cup milk (or soymilk), a few
>dates, and a little vanilla. Blend and serve. This would be about 400
>calories a shake, with only about 5 grams of fat. 

Hmmmm, sounds good, but on the other hand, a 16 oz. bottle of Ultra Fuel
is 400 calories, no fat, and can be had for 79 cents when it's on sale. And
it wouldn't feel like so much in the stomach, either.

I believe I would try something like chocolate Gainers Fuel, or chocolate
Metabolol, etc.  They are more expensive, but sorta tasty, easy to drink, and
depending on how much you mix in, MEGA-caloric in a low-fat way.....

I think these are the most calorie-dense things you can take in that 
aren't relying on fat, e.g. peanut butter.



......................................... Paul Fidler .................
"Please consult your physician            NCR Corporation, Columbia, SC
 before exercising with Lee Haney"        paul@clodii.ColumbiaSC.NCR.COM
Newsgroups: sci.med.nutrition
From: Rosemary Waigh <rwaigh@zooid.guild.org>
Subject: Forbidden fruit.  was Re: Milk is dangerous?
Reply-To: rwaigh@zooid.UUCP (Rosemary Waigh)
Organization: The Zoo of Ids
Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1992 14:14:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.135016.7452@iscsvax.uni.edu> howard@iscsvax.uni.edu writes:
>> 
>
>I'm a little rusty on my good catholic education, but wasn't it Adam
>and Eve eating from the apple tree that created original sin?
>-Mary Howard

from _The_Mammoth_Book_of_Trivia_ by James Meyers

     "Despite traditional belief, the Bible nowhere states that the apple
     was the fruit which the Mother of Mankind induced her mate to share
     with her.  Genesis says only that Adam and Eve partook of the fruit
     of 'the tree of knowledge of good and evil, which had been placed off
     bounds by divine prohibition.  Although Western Judaeo-Christian trad-
     ition names the fruit as the apple, in the East, the belief prevails
     that the forbidden fruit was a banana."

Rosemary Waigh
rwaigh@zooid.guild.org


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