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From: bruce@pages.com(Bruce Henderson)
Subject: Re: PasteUp Feature List, Scott Hess at 200 PSI
Organization: Banzai Research Institute
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 23:22:14 GMT

In article <SCOTT.92Sep5153936@nic.gac.edu>  writes:
> scott hess <shess@ssesco.com>  <Who achieved programmer nirvana on  
Aug 11th>
> 12901 Upton Avenue South, #326  Burnsville, MN 55337 (612) 895-1208  
Anytime!
>    <Text: One Class to bring them all and in the darkness bind them  
...>

C'mon....  I've seen worse!

BTW,  will PasteUp be showing at Seybold?

Bruce H
[Harbinger of the Doomed Rat]
bruce@pages.com

PS.  Please note that not a word was mentioned about a product that  
has a name similar to my sight name in order not to appear like an  
advertisement.....










PPS.  If you really just gotta see Pages, you might be able to ask us  
advertising type questions at Seybold.....


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From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Subject: 3.0 ship status from the shipper, as of 9:30am CDT, 14-sep-1992
Keywords: 3.0 late why?
Reply-To: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 14:42:41 GMT

According to UCA (the company handling 'order or shipment' problems for NeXT),  
the status of NeXTstep 3.0 is that they and NeXT project 7 to 10 days to
process the current backlog of orders.  Given the 2nd-day air shipping
method, that means 9-12 days.  So, it means that, as of today, they project  
worst case receive date to be September 30th (assuming a 5 day work week).

They would not comment on whether or why shipments were on hold.
Given the announcement of Novell client APIs are licensed as of
September 8, I wonder if they pressed new CD-ROMs to reflect that
fact (,or more messily, 3.0 orginally shipped with the APIs, without
license, and Novell caught it, and forced a legal standoff ;-).
 
-geoff

---------------------------------------------------------------
Geoffrey Brunkhorst, RCF                    brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
Guggenheim 10                                    (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905 USA     fax (507) 284-5231
From: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us (Simson L. Garfinkel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re:  NeXTSTEP Release 3
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:24:02 GMT
Reply-To: simsong@next.cambridge.ma.us
Organization: Simson Garfinkel and Associates, Inc.

You definately have to delete your Librarian 2.1 indexes and rebuild them with  
3.0.

It's a major bug that Librarian doesn't recognize this itself.
-- 

................................................................simson
From: todd@liveware.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: Tesseract: 3D Modeling and Animation Software
Keywords: WOW Do we have a bonehead here or what
Date: 9 Sep 92 12:34:29 GMT
Reply-To: todd@liveware.com
Organization: Liveware Corporation   Fort Collins, CO.  USA.

In article <1992Sep8.230556.28998@serval.net.wsu.edu> grubb@show10.csc.wsu.edu  
(Monte Grubb) writes:
> 
> ____________________________________________________________
> VERSATILE DEVELOPMENT
> 10121 Portland Avenue East				

[  major product announcement canned here ]

> me at (208) 882-7146.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Monte W. Grubb
> Versatile Development
> 

I would have thought one copy was good enough, but two?  And
during a heavy discussion of prices in posts?  Jeez, good work
Monte ;')

Regards,

Todd Nathan
csna moderator
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From: hogan@boetius (Kharim Hogan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software,comp.sys.next.hardware
Subject: Re: Two questions about Music
Date: 15 Sep 92 03:12:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory, NM

In article <1992Sep5.202231.22044@leland.Stanford.EDU> valardin@leland.Stanford.EDU (Stefan Heck) writes:
>
>2) Is there a way to translate NeXT sounds to Mac sounds and vice
>versa, or are the two formats compatible?
>

Tom Erbe has written a program called SoundHack which will allow you
to do this which you can pick up on the archives.  Ftp to mills.edu
and look in the directory called 'ccm'.  The latest version is
called SndHck62.  Here is the blurb that he posted a while back:

> > I have written a program (SoundHack) that, amoung other things, will
> > translate AIFF and Sound Designer II (both Mac formats), IRCAM, and
> > NeXT/Sun soundfiles to and from each other.  One restriction, it needs a
> > Mac with at least 68020+FPU to run.  If you have a lesser Mac, get
> > SoundHackJr.  It is the same program, compiled for 68000, but much, much 
> > slower.

Hope this is of help!

Kharim  


>Thanks very much,
>Stefan
>heck@cmgm.stanford.edu


-- 
*************************************************************************
     Kharim M. Hogan             Systems Administrator 
     hogan@music.mcgill.ca       Faculty of Music, McGill University
*************************************************************************
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: sawada@etlpom.etl.go.jp (Toshimi sawada)
Subject: Re: ML for the NeXT??
Organization: Electrotechnical Laboratory, Tsukuba Science City
	<188mlpINN2kr@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>
Date: Sat, 5 Sep 1992 05:58:37 GMT

In <188mlpINN2kr@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> mcn@cwru.edu writes:
   >In article <Yedv8wi00YV7A68VM7@andrew.cmu.edu> gb2a+@andrew.cmu.edu (George J.  
   >Baxter) writes:
   >>Hey folks, is there a standard ML compiler for the NeXT???
   >
   >1) You don't need to compile ML--it's already in machine form, hence the name.
   >2) If you want to compile ASSEMBLER--create the file with the extension '.s',  
   >and send it through cc.

I think the original poster is looking for SML(Standard ML) language
implementation, NOT a Machine Language. 

BTW, I also want the info. about SML, was "Standard ML of New Jersey"
ported to the NeXT, or are there any others?

Thanks in advance.
--
T. Sawada, sawada@etl.go.jp, on leave from SRA Inc.
From: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Anthony Berno)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Can't read mail with Mail app!
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 01:03:50 GMT
Reply-To: aberno@godel.questor.wimsey.bc.ca


Problems! After returning from a summer in California, I have set up my  
UUCP connection in Vancouver again. Everything works fine including News,  
but I cannot seem to read mail using the NextMail application.

I can read it using the UNIX mail program just fine, but when I start up  
Mail, there are no messages in my mailbox. Pressing Command-N doesn't do  
anything, and there is no beep when I do this. The /usr/spool/mail  
directory is readable. There are no error messages in the console.

This is a real mystery to me. If you have any ideas, please post or send  
me non-NeXT mail. 

-Anthony
From: fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (Michael Glenn)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: VirtSpace (mini -review)
Date: 12 Sep 92 18:53:01 GMT
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH


I downloaded both the demo VirtSpace2.4 and WideScreen0.5.  To tell you  
the truth guys, I like WideScreen much better.  There are bugs in  
VirtSpace that are just plain ugly.  Especially the multiple menus that  
appear in the upper-left part of my screen.  The interface for WideScreen  
is very nearly identical to VirtSpace, and it is free (so far), claims  
only version 0.5, which indicates to me that the author knows there are  
lots more things that can be added to make it better, has fewer bugs, and  
comes with the source.

So, someone please fill me in on how VirtSpace is in any way superior?

$30 for VirtSpace?  Where do I send my $30 for WideScreen?

Michael Glenn
fermat@fermat.dartmouth.edu (NeXTmail)

My views are my own...
From: dlw@atherton.com (Remo Williams)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: MicroPhone Pro & ZyXel?
Keywords: driver,ZyXel,MicroPhone Pro, NeXT
Date: 14 Sep 92 18:05:55 GMT
Organization: Atherton Technology, Inc.

Well, 

I got my copy of MicroPhone Pro for the NeXT last week. Given that many of the  
NeXT community are moving to using ZyXel 1496 series modems (I believe ANDI is  
using them as well) anyone contacted Software Ventures about when they will  
have a ZyXel modem driver (and in the meantime which driver to use)?

--
David Williams -- dlw@atherton.com -- NeXTMail welcome
	          dlw@netcom.com   -- NeXTMail welcome
From: basiji@milton.u.washington.edu (David Basiji)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: PasteUp vs PageMaker vs Quark (RTF)
Date: 12 Sep 92 03:27:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: milton.basiji.716268478
Organization: University of Washington


As one of the more "silent many" I have to say I'm continually baffled
by the intensity of the bitching that follows any large RTF posting
in light of the continual failure of C.S.N.* folks to pass an RTF 
newsgroup. 

As long as they are marked as such in the subject line, I'm all for
RTF posting.  And I don't even run NewsGrazer, just NGService via
modem at home.

If you don't like the ramifications of owning and supporting NeXT,
read your mail, and do everything else with a vt100, PC, or some
such other dinosaur.

David Basiji
-- 
David Basiji 
"C neophyte, Bioengineering Grad Student, Internet Personality"

email: basiji@u.washington.edu          
NeXTmail: basiji@larry.pathology.washington.edu

	"Whining is just anger coming out of a very small opening."
            --Stuart Smalley

   "Who are these Stooges, of which you speak?"
				--Gina, on Seinfeld
From: andrew@cubetech.com (Andrew Loewenstern)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Re: NeXT Ships NeXTSTEP Release 3.0
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:10:02 GMT
Organization: Cube Technologies, Inc.

In article <4959@rosie.NeXT.COM> user_groups@next.com writes:
>Registered owners of NeXTSTEP Release 2 can upgrade to Release 3.0
>for $XXX; upgrades will be shipped on a CD-ROM disk and as a
>right-to-use license.

Thats $295


andrew
-- 
andrew@cubetech.com     | "We shall not cease from exploration
Andrew Loewenstern      |  And the end of our exploring
Cube Technologies, Inc. |  Will be to arrive where we started
                        |  And know the place for the first time." -T.S. Eliot
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: 3.0 is really shipping
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1992 04:02:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.045918.25941@Princeton.EDU> ramirez.Princeton.EDU!penrose  
(Christopher Penrose) writes:
> 
> We have 3.0 up and running on some NeXTs here at Princeton:
> 
> Sep  8 04:57:17 window mach: NeXT Mach 3.0: Wed Jul 29 19:43:28 PDT 1992;
> root(rcbuilder):mk-127.15/BUILD/RELEASE_M68K
> 
> The kernel was obviously built after 3.0 beta shipped.  Our friendly cs  
stooges  
> installed it over the weekend.  It seems stable.
> 
> No one told me not to tell anyone.
> 
> Christopher Penrose
> penrose@silvertone.princeton.edu
Got mine today! (tuesday)

Installed without a hitch.

Jim
From: arzt@dccs.upenn.edu (Noam H. Arzt)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Problem with DialupIP and NXHost
Date: 9 Sep 92 21:12:34 GMT

I finally got slip working next-to-next using DialUpIP. The only problem I  
still have is that I cannot seem to "-NXHost" and application from the slip  
server to the client. Everything else seems to work just fine bi-directionally  
(e.g. ping, telnet, ftp, domain name service, mail) but I keep getting a "DPS  
client library error: Could not form connection, host {hostname}" error.

Any ideas?

--
Mr. Noam Arzt                            215/898-3029 (voice)
Director, Special Projects               215/898-9348 (FAX)
University of Pennsylvania               arzt@dccs.upenn.edu
Data Communications & Computing Services (NeXTmail is OK)
Suite 221A, 3401 Walnut Street, Philadelphia, PA 19104
From: grubb@show10.csc.wsu.edu (Monte Grubb)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
Subject: Tesseract: 3D Modeling and Animation Software
Keywords: 3D Modeling and Animation Software
Date: 8 Sep 92 19:16:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: serval.1992Sep8.191653.18298
Reply-To: grubb@show10.csc.wsu.edu
Organization: Washington State University


____________________________________________________________
VERSATILE DEVELOPMENT
10121 Portland Avenue East				
Tacoma, Wa  98445-3953
____________________________________________________________

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

Contact:  Monte Grubb
(208) 882-7146  or  via NeXTmail at grubb@show10.csc.wsu.edu

RELIEF CONSULTING AND DEVELOPMENT ANNOUNCES THREE DIMENSIONAL MODELING AND  
ANIMATION SOFTWARE FOR NeXT COMPUTERS

	SEATTLE, Wa.,  September 1, 1992 - Relief Consulting and Development  
today introduced Tesseract, a three dimensional modeling package for NeXT  
computers.  Tesseract takes full advantage of the newly incorporated RenderMan  
objects to provide an interactive three dimensional modeling and animation  
environment.
	
	A full set of drag and drop quadratic shapes, light sources and  
euclidean solids are implemented with possibilities of an "expandable object  
palette(s)".  In addition, complex spline outlines can be extruded or rotated  
into shapes that can be used in conjunction with any shader.  

	This software package also incorporates constructive solid geometry and  
parametrized shapes which allow partial or truncated sections of shapes to be  
grouped to form unique shapes and objects.  These new objects can then be saved  
and added to the users "expandable object palette".  Full cut, copy and paste  
features are also supported between multiple scenes.  The development of custom  
surface, light  and displacement shaders are in progress but will not be  
announced at this time.

	"We expect to be one of the leaders in three dimensional modeling and  
animation software on the NeXT" said John Feiler, president of Relief  
Consulting and Development.  John was the sole author of the NeXT front-end to  
the highly acclaimed mathematical program, Maple V.  Relief Consulting is  
located in Seattle, Washington.


Price and Availability

	Tesseract (v0.9) is expected to ship October 1,1992.  A one-time  
introductory price will be offered at $229, which includes a free upgrade to  
Tesseract(v1.0) due out in late December.  List price is expected to be around  
$399 with site licenses available.  An educational price of $89 is offered, but  
only by electronic distribution.

Note: A slightly disabled demo version will be available from the archives.   
Demo mode will allow a one time photorealistic rendering of a scene with a  
maximum of 15 shapes.  Simple animation will not be disabled.


If you have any questions about anything listed in this message, please contact  
me at (208) 882-7146.

Sincerely,

Monte W. Grubb
Versatile Development


Trademark Information

NeXT, the NeXT logo, NeXTSTEP, NeXT Computers, NeXTstation, NeXTcube,  
NeXTdimension, NeXTmail, Interface Builder, and Workspace Manager are  
trademarks of NeXT Computer, Inc.



	
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: eschwart@netcom.Netcom.COM (Eric Schwartz)
Subject: Installing C-News and NewsGrazer
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 92 02:38:37 GMT
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Service
Distribution: comp

I've just installed C-News and NewsGrazer on a NeXTstation, but I don't
yet have a news feed.  (I do have a UUCP feed, but as far as I know, it
will not supply me with news articles unless I pay more money!)

Does anyone know of any UUCP "test sites", or some way of testing that my
configuration can properly receive news articles?  Maybe a public access
UUCP site with a dial up line in the 408, 415, or 510 area code?!

If not, I'd appreciate if a knowledgeable person can give me some tips
via e-mail, on what I can do in the meantime to test everything out.

Thanks,

Eric
--

Eric Schwartz
WhyaNeXT!eric@netcom.com (NeXTmail spoken here)
work )408( 279-7191
FAX  )408( 279-7167

"A five is an old four."--from 'The Silly Record' by Stoo Hample

-- 

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WhyaNeXT!eric@netcom.com (NeXTmail spoken here)
work )408( 279-7191
FAX  )408( 279-7167

"A five is an old four."--from 'The Silly Record' by Stoo Hample

Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: brunkhorst@mayo.edu (Geoff Brunkhorst)
Subject: Re: Not (was: NeXT Ships NeXTSTEP Release 3.0)
Reply-To: brunkhorst@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN. Campus
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 17:38:50 GMT

In article <60246@mimsy.umd.edu> alex@cs.umd.edu (Alex Blakemore) writes:
> I was told Wednesday by a supervisor in the orders dept at NeXT that
> the good news was that 3.0 was shipping  (I had that it had stopped) and
> that the stoppage had something to do with the license agreement that
> was now resolved.
> 
> So it is possible that:
>   the 3.0 shipping delay is old news that just reached the net and
> that it is now finally shipping.  just after I was told this, NeXT 3.0
> press releases appeared on the net.

Well,  let's get this in ascending date order.  My original post was after a  
phone call to the shipper Thursday morning, Sept 10, 1992.  It appears that
NeXT had yet to tell the shipper about such 'good' news.  At this point, I tend  
to believe the shipper more than NeXT.  


Even if it is old news, it is false advertising to claim one thing and do
another.  This is not good for NeXT, who in the past has been beaten up
on it's sales totals being unreliable.  NeXT does owe the 'waiting faithful'
an explanation why 2nd Day air shipments are taking at least 2 weeks or 
more for the majority of their customers.

I, like Art, have a small but critical project, waiting for 3.0 deployment.
I waited a week for 3.0, causing my user base a loss of a weeks productivity,  
thinking I could save me and them the pain of 'upgrade' (these users are new to
the NeXT platform).  Now I have lost that week, and I will lose another week  
installing 3.0 at our remote (like 1000's of miles away) sites, most likely  
later next month.  Mine is only a time/materials loss, but my guess is guys  
like Art and other small developers/VARs etc are really hurt by this in terms  
of money in their pocket.  For what I can tell, these are the people that  
really 'sell' NeXT to the new markets, and causing them loss will likely come  
back and cause NeXT loss.

Finally, most academic computing facilities I know try to avoid systems  
upgrades during the school year.   This may cause 3.0 to sit on the shelf
until quarter/semester break.  More bad press, in one of NeXT's strategic  
markets.

-geoff
---------------------------------------------------------------
Geoffrey Brunkhorst, RCF                    brunkhorst@Mayo.edu
Guggenheim 10                                    (507) 284-1805
Mayo Foundation, Rochester MN, 55905 USA     fax (507) 284-5231 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: gchan@nx28.mik.uky.edu (georges chan)
Subject: GifDecode class lib demo for NeXTstep 3.0 available!!
Keywords: GIF, decoder,NeXTstep 3.0
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 03:23:28 GMT

Hello:

Due to the huge requests of the GifDecode demo for NeXTstep 3.0 by many  
fortunate users (who are deeply enjoying the Pre-released of NeXTstep 3.0)  
but unfortunate since they cannot run my previous demo. I have made a new  
version of GIFology 1.0 for the NeXTStep 3.0. The new demo can be obtained  
through the following ftp anonymous:

	site:      sonata.cc.purdue.edu
	directory: pub/next/sumissions
	file:      GIFology1.0_For_NS3_0.tar.Z


So long, enjoy it!

-----

Georges Chan.

e-mail address: gchan@mik.uky.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: williams@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca (Tim Williams)
Subject: Mathematica, Intro help
Keywords: Mathematica,help
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 03:40:47 GMT

I have a simple request. Having just opened my copy of Mathematica
for the NeXT, I find .... what gasp! No real instruction book! Well
after getting Wolfram's book from the library I now find that this
seems to be the only NeXT app that I have ever seen that is difficult
to use. Oh well. I just want some help getting into what seems to be
the dialog mode. Nothing I tried allowed me to enter a simple equation
an get a result. I will be ordering the NeXT specific users guide but
in the mean time it would be nice to at least try the package. So if
there are helpful Mathematica guru's out there who would spare a few
bytes of advice  while I wait to get my docs it would be  
very helpful!

Thanks
	Tim Williams ( williams@watserv1.uwaterloo.ca )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: collis@lele-next2.Stanford.EDU (Samuel Scott Collis)
Subject: Icon Names
Keywords: icons
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 20:27:03 GMT


Is there any way of changing the icon name in Terminal from the shell type  
(i.e. /bin/csh) to something else (like a host name for example)? If it  
can't be done in Terminal, is there another terminal emulator that can do  
it? 

Thanks...
Newsgroups: comp.sys.next.software
From: jmd@cube.handheld.com (Jim De Arras)
Subject: Re: PasteUp vs PageMaker vs Quark (RTF)
Organization: Hand Held Products, Inc.
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 14:28:51 GMT

In article <1992Sep12.063604.757@liveware.com> modman@liveware.com writes:
> 
> I agree that Glenn and RBS should post things that are commercial in nature
> to CSNAnnounce.  RightBrain has had a history of posting directly
> to other groups, where CSNAnnounce should/would/could do the
> trick.  This is one of the reason he and RB have a history that
> tastes bad in the mouths of some...
> 
> Todd Nathan
> CSNA Moderator
Todd,

As long as (and for whatever good reasons) there is the historic long and even  
recent moderate delays getting things through csna, it is of little use for  
timely announcements, and so I do not fault anyone for going around the system  
to get timely information (commercial or otherwise) out.  cnsa, as it currently  
operates, is more suited to the FAQ list, and user group schedules, rather than  
important announcements.

I am not attacking you, I am too busy myself to offer to do any better, but  
just making a personal observation as to the way csna seems to operate.

Jim
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From: pirla@wam.umd.edu (L. Anathea Brooks)
Subject: Re: PasteUp vs PageMaker vs Quark:  Those are hangin' words
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 12:42:37 GMT

Looks to me that they must have been in cahoots on it (Reid/Reynolds)
or else the latter was tipsy. :o)

rdelucca@rosemary.uucp.jhu.edu

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