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From: smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Reply to  Bahaies  gang
Date: 11 Apr 92 00:23:56 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: handel

In article <1992Apr10.175007.1080@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>
>I completely agree with you. Though I think hijab is necessary, it is NOT the
>main point to be beaten to death in Islam. 

at last!  some sign of moderation... im gaining new respect for you
zafar.

>It is not even an enforceable rule.

then why is it enforced in so many islamic states.  or more to the point,
why are the rules and regulation of islam so open to interpretation, which
in turn, leaves room for manipulation and abuse?

>It is not a big deal if someone wears "correct" hijab or not. The important
>thing is INTENTION, 

well... well...  this is quite refreshing.  i dont know which side of
the bed you got up on this morning, but do it again!

>the prophet of god and Quran have stated specifically that
>all actions should be judged by the intentions.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

wheeeeeeeuuuu!  then i guess my posts wont land me in hell afterall!
actually ive known this all along.  without it, i wouldnt have dared.

>zafar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: fayegh@cs.ubc.ca (David Fayegh)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not : -)?)
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry
Organization: Computer Science, University of B.C., Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 92 07:37:02 GMT

derek@locus.com (Dariush Keyani-Yazdi) writes:

>man dard-e to rA ze dast AsAn nadaham
>			del bar-nakanam ze doost tA jAn nadaham
>az doost beh yAdegAr dardy dAram
>			kAn dard beh sad-hezAr darmAn nadaham

>				"Jalaloddin Mohammad Balkhi (Mowlavi)"

>bazam meem bedeh...

	mirzA gholee khAn pesaree dAsht
			pesare bee adab-o bee honaree dAsht
	na pedar rAzee az oo na mAdar
			na mo'aalem na laleh na nokar

r-e bedeh please

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari)
Subject: Re: A Quick Question
Originator: sehari@vincent1.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University of Science and Technology, Ames, Iowa.
Date: Mon, 13 Apr 1992 21:55:33 GMT

In <kuc64qINNr4u@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM> smortaz@handel.Eng.Sun.COM (Shahrokh Mortazavi) writes:

>In article <sehari.702929800@vincent1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>>>>>                                          ^^^^^
>>>>
>>>>>Q1- Why does Babak call shah, shaw.
>>>>
>>>>actually he does type shah when he means shah.  he was referring to george
>>>>bernard shaw in that sentence.  babak rarely makes spelling mistakes.
>>>>
>>>>>Q2- Why does Babak's smily looks like this -:)
>>>>
>>>>if in a smiley, ':' are the eyes, and ')' is the mouth, then
>>>>the '-' in -:) can only be the scar from lobotomy.
>>>				          ^^^^^^^^
>>>since a friend asked what that is:
>>
>>>lobotomy: A surgical operation that removes one or more
>>>          fronal lobes of the brain.  
>>
>>
>>After all, this "Shash-Khor-e Mortazavi" should know; -:) he already had
>>several of these operations.

>ah, baabak joon... once again you subconsciously redirect the
>converstaion to the genital area...  i believe the last time we
>analyzed this recurring behaviour of yours (back in september i
>think?), we came to the conclusion that you suffered from chronic
>sexual frustration which caused you to continuously walk around with an
>erection, which in turn deprived your already small brain from its
>needed blood.  

Anybody, who need a "Do-zari" psychologist might get in touch with Mr.
Shash-Khor-e Mortazavi.  Even though, he does not have any credential
in psychology, what so ever, he does psychoanalysis with a touch of voodoo
and materials he had read on the tabloids.  Specially, "Dr. love's" articles
in psychology.

>now, why cant you be a little more polite too? 


>>                           With highest regards,
>>                                Babak   Sehari.
From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not : -)?)
Date: 17 Apr 92 19:56:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucbeh.1992Apr17.145607.1143
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

In article <1992Apr17.021513.0626012@locus.com>, derek@locus.com (Dariush Keyani-Yazdi) writes:
> David Fayegh writes:
>>hooshyar@scrp.stanford.edu (Hooshyar) writes:
>>
>>	ma'shoogheh mA gerAn nageerad hargez
>>			veen sham' -o- cherAgh-e mA nameerad hargez
>>	ham soorat -o- ham Ayeneh vallAh keh vayast
>>			een Ayeneh zangee napazeerad hargez
>>								"MowlAna"
>>khAheshmand ast yek "z-e" lotf befarmA'eed
>>
> 
> ey be chashm:
> 
> zAn mey-e eshgh kaz-oo pokhteh shavad har khAmi
> 			gar-cheh mAheh ramezAnast biAvar jAmi
> 
> 								"Hafez"
> --
> Dariush



Hal ma khub ast!
			zafar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack)
Subject: Re: Electronic MoshA'aereh (why not :-)?)
Keywords: Poetry and more poetry
Organization: Stanford University
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 20:12:42 GMT

aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:
>mack@isl.Stanford.EDU (mack) writes:
>>
>>teer e mozhgAn e to az eynak e posht
>>                      zad be ghalb e akhavi, bandeh ro kosht
>>
>>t bedeh, teyeh do noghteh!
>
>to keh az koocheyeh ma'shoogheyeh man migozari,
>			man ham az koocheyeh ma'shoogheyeh to migozaram
>
>mim bedeh.

morgh e bAgh e malakootam, ni'yam az Alam e khAk
                        chand roozeest ghafasi sAkhteh and az badanam

mim bedeh

    --mack
From: bashir@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU (Noushin Bashir)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Tax Break!
Keywords: :)
Date: 16 Apr 92 16:53:31 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: State University of New York at Buffalo/Comp Sci
Originator: bashir@sybil.cs.Buffalo.EDU

Found this in a local newsgroup, thought you might find it
interesting:

					Cheers,
					Noushin

From acsu.buffalo.edu!rapaport Thu Apr 16 12:45:45 EDT 1992
Article 1272 of sunyab.cs.grads:
Newsgroups: sunyab.cs.grads
From: bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi)
Subject: Re: Iraq combats Iranian sorties, violates peace treaty
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 00:36:23 GMT

In article <2522@keele.keele.ac.uk> phd21@seq1.kl.ac.uk (A. Jaber) writes:

>		This is How Neo-Khomeinists think...
>
>>now stupid sadam and you are in bad condition ready to be kiled by US

Which is true.  You Saddamites are ready to be killed by the U.S.  What an
irony given that the West encouraged you when you fought with Iran.

In any case, given that you support Saddam Hussain, and given that you
proudly boasted of Saddam`s "al-Hussain" missile [which rained on innocent
Muslim civilians in Iran], and given the fact that the country you`re 
living in just fought a war with Saddam Hussain, I am sure British 
authorities will be interested to investigate you.  Your name and your
postings will soon be mailed to the British police.

Behnam Sadeghi

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: ramin@praha.jpl.nasa.gov (Ramin Sadr)
Subject: Farsi Word Processor
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 23:40:08 GMT

From: ramin@bvd.jpl.nasa.gov (Ramin Sadr)
Subject: Galileo Update - 03/30/92
Reply-To: ramin@bvd.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Date: Thursday, 9 April 1992 07:54:32 GMT


I would like to solicit your opinion, or experiences with Alkatib.  Here is
mine:

I have been trying to use Alkatib 1.3 (running on MACIIfx) for writting a 
short technical article in Farsi.  I have encountered numerous problems 
that I have summarized below (NOT IN ANY ORDER):

1. Cannot mix different font sizes in a document.
2. Cannot Paste, or Import any english charcters in the text.
3. Cannot print properley when the keyboard template is shown.
4. Margin control is minimal and difficult to adjust.
5. Line wrapping is done by insertion of carriage return by the software.
6. Cannot open multiple files simultaneously.
2. Cannot Paste, or Import anything! into Alkatib documents.

I have came up with a naive solution, eventhough it is very ineffective and
time consuming. I use MacDraw II.  I write a small segment of text in 
Alkatib and then paste it from the clipboard into MacDraw II document.  With
this arrangement I can cut and paste equations, pictures, mix english
characters or perform any other function supported by a word processor.
with the Farsi text.  However, this process causes a great deal of pain, 
especially with line wrapping occuring from right left as opposed to left
to right, but it is do-able.  Furthermore problem 2, and 5, make the software
even more difficult to use as a so called truly general purpose word 
processor.

I should point out that I was so happy and excited  when I first got this 
software to see persian fonts on the CRT that these difficulies were 
overlooked.  Since I started working with software, I have concluded that
it is more preferable to use this package as font library, and a "word/line
generator" than a general purpose word processor.  I should also warn you
not to waste your time with importing any paragraph from Alkatib to 
any word processor, then you will realy experience what dual line wrapping
 does to your mind!



Bedrood;
Ramin







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Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: arash@sunee.waterloo.edu (Arash Jahangir)
Subject: Re: Kerman
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 23:13:01 GMT


I am curious about a few things:

In article <kunaf0INNr23@spim.mips.com> benf@mips.com (Ben Fathi) writes:
>
>"... The last two dynasties spilled a great deal of innocent blood in order
>to win or keep the throne. Imagine the monarch Agha Mohammad Khan, who

Could you tell us which two dynasties are refered to here?  There is nothing
during the Pahlavies rule that can possibly compare to what is described here.
And so long as I know, Zandieh too were among the most gentle dynesties we had.

>orders the entire population of the city of Kerman murdered or blinded-no
>exceptions. His praetorians set energetically to work. They line up the
>inhabitants, slice off the heads of the adults, gouge out the eyes of the
>children. In the end, despite taking regular breaks, the praetorians grow
>too exhausted to lift their swords or knives anymore. Only thanks to this

Here is a social/psychological question.  Assuming that it happened as the
author claims (I really have little faith in him at the moment), why would 
the people of the city not fight to the last breath?  There are other such
historical claims too.  For example I heard that after their victory on 
TurkamanestAn, the Mongholian invaders decided to kill entire (or close to
entire) population of some cities and vilages.  They did so by putting few 
soldiers in charge of the execution, who then proceeded by literally lining
up the population and one by one chopping the heads.  Considering that there
were only few soldiers, and many of the sentencees, and that the victims were
facing certain death, why did they not revolt?  What did they have to loose?

>[...some deletions]
> 
>and tumbling heads. They ask what crime Kerman committed to earn such a
>cruel punishment. At that question, the children break into a song about
>the offense, which was this: Because their fathers had sheltered the
>previous Shah, the new ruler could not forgive them."
>

I had heard a such a story before.  But the reason for exacting such a 
vengence (I was told) was that during the city's siege, a few of the city
men dressed as women and wore chAdor and rediculed him for being a eunich.

>				From:		Shah of Shahs
>				By:		Ryszard Kapuscinski
>				Published By:	Vintage International
>
>I have no reason to question the accuracy of the above statements. I
>was simply shocked to see them. Did this really happen? I don't

Does the author provide references or other credintials?  If not I would take
his words with a grain of salt.  Also does he say what his motivations for
writting the book is?  When reading history books, far too often the author's
own personal openions affect the book as the actual events that occured.
Unfortunately so many people believe what they read in books and newspapers
just because it is printed there.  Whereas if someone they meet on the bus
would tell them the same things, they would not have believed it as easily.
Just because it is printed, doesn't mean it is sinciere.

Cheers,
 Arash
From: sepehr@acsu.buffalo.edu (Ramin S.)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Az Div o Dad Maloolam
Date: 8 Apr 92 23:19:57 GMT
Organization: UB


I am a religionless guy and don't believe in any religion at all , but
I have no objection on seeing Islamic discussion being posted on SCI
since we all come from a very strong political and religious
background , I am sure most of us enjoy reading that kind of
discussions .  So let's not think that this is a group restricted to
social life talk ( althought it's called 'social'.culture.iranian )

Cheers
From: bsadeghi@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Behzad Sadeghi)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: A Quick Question
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:52:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: Princeto.1992Apr9.175252.15477
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@ernie.Princeton.EDU

In article <sehari.702833956@vincent1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>of the hostage taking was started at the shaw's time, you guys remember
                                          ^^^^^
Q1- Why does Babak call shah, shaw.
Q2- Why does Babak's smily looks like this -:)

O.K. I know I said "a question" but wouldn't you love to
know the answers.

Behzad
From: minhaszt@ucbeh.san.uc.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Reply to  Bahaies  gang
Date: 13 Apr 92 16:41:13 GMT
Organization: Univ. of Cincinnati

This whole discussion of Baha'iya makes me want to do a comparative analysis
between Ahmedi religion and Baha'i religion.

zafar
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad)
Subject: Re: Terrorist Khomeini regime attacks an NLA Base
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 23:23:44 GMT
Organization: College of Engineering, University of Maryland, College Park


In article <sehari.702739797@vincent1.iastate.edu> sehari@iastate.edu (Babak Sehari) writes:
>In <1992Apr08.061459.20928@eng.umd.edu> alireza@eng.umd.edu (Alireza Karimzadeh-Rad) writes:
>
>>In article <javad.702598623@nsisrv> javad@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov (Javad Boroumand;NSIUSO) writes:
>>>hernlem@chess.ncsu.EDU (Brad Hernlem) writes:
>>>
>>>>I also heard that "supporters" of the MKO took a hostage in New York for
>>>>a while yesterday. These Mojahedin are doing a good job of demonstrating


>                 <Lines deleted>
>
>  We have to be thankful, that they did not rape someone to get media 
>attention. -:) Then, probably Alireza would say," It was not rape, it was
>just a quickie". -:)  Just imagine, while the guy is having sex and all the
>reporters  and camera crow are recording this event, he start reading a
>memorandum from the group. -:) 
>
>                   With highest regards,
>                        Babak   Sehari.
>
>


Only a sick mind like yours could come up with garbage like this. Only
you could think of reading statements to the press while actually
raping someone. Where do you come up with shit like this? It's mind
boggling. For your information I was just being sarcastic, but I
should have known you are too stupid to understand that.


Mr. Sehari you are such a sad case that the angels weep for you, the
Devil rejoices knowing that you are the Almighty's ultimate
blunder, the Almighty on the other hand is wondering if Satan was in
the right for not bowing to man, and as far as we terrestrial beings
are concerned, most of have come to accept to as just a babbling,
sadistic idiot.


Payandeh Baad Iran
Alireza
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Khomeinism low mentality
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 00:08:12 GMT


The following is a sample of emails I have received from
a few Khomeini-followers. Disregarding their level of
distasteful personal insult and low-personality (what
else you would expect from a Khomeini-follower anyway),
one should picture what goes on in Iran's many prisons
and toture chambers against those who dare to oppose the
illegitimate Khomeini regime.

Another Khomeini-apologist recently stated that because
he can't tolerate my view points, he no longer will read
my articles and he will use his "n" key. (I hope he does
not have anything else in mind.)

I must be lucky! He only decided to use his "n" key against
me since he can't tolerate my view points. In Iran, the
pasdars use all sorts of torture and killing techniques
against opponents of the regime.

Anyway, here are some of their comments. I apologize for
having to post such tasteless material. Actually, I was
shameful to include some other comments. This is one way
of learning more about the Khomeinism mentality:
---------------------------------------------------------------

Saied if you become a human I will change my name.
It is interesting how KHAR stll you are.
----
Saied,
I heard that Rajavi offer Maryam to those pilot but they didn't accept. 
Then Maryam joooooooooooon   started to torture them.
----
Mujahedeen-e-Khalq Organization = MUNAFEQEEN-E-KHALQ ORGANIZATION
----
your insult to imam-e-ummat al-sayyid ruhullah al-musavi al-khumayni(ar) should
be appologised for IMMEDIATELY!

just as you should appologise for the insults you made about hujjatul-islam
agha-e-rafsanjani, and agha-e-javadi.

<By agha-e-javadi, I think he means Lajevardi>

UNDERSTAND!

your rhetoric fools no-one munafeq!

stop posting garbage on SCI. 
----
We know who you are. Forget about ever returing to Iran.

--------------------------------------------------------------------

There were some other comments that I am just shameful to
publically post.  I have saved these and other similar emails
in a file called "imam-khomeini". If anyone is interested, I
will email him/her a copy.
From: taqwaa@equinox.unr.edu (Muhammad Taqwaa)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
Subject: Re: Reply to  Bahaies  gang
Date: 7 Apr 92 04:22:33 GMT
Organization: University of Nevada, Reno

In article <1992Apr3.223653.1359@rdg.dec.com> hakim@bigq.enet.dec.com (Kamran Hakim) writes:
>
>SM>At the same time you claim that you believe in Islam and Quran. You write:
>
>Yes I do.

If you believe to Islam let's talk about Two  Islamic rules.
1-  "Hejab"
If you believe Hejab why you don't have it ( for Women) if not then
You just claim that you believe to Islam. Realy you don't.

2- Politic
The second question is, I strongly know that you don't   engage with
politic but Islam do.


 BTW: I strong believe that any Ideology  that stop people engaging politicsc
has been made or has been changed by aggressor.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: amoojoon@ghahveh.khooneh.mash.yadollAh (Bacheh Morshed)
Subject: Re: My two cents worth (WAS: re: KhAnomhA's opinion)
Summary: amoo's questions
Keywords: khAnomhA
Organization: naghAl khooneh
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 20:02:24 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.164420.13234@CSD-NewsHost.Stanford.EDU> aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Moda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb) writes:


>I am posting this for Mrs. Soheila Amiri (samiri@encore.com)
>who is having posting problems. 

>**********************************************************************
>Subject: My two cents worth (WAS: re: KhAnomhA's opinion)
>Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
>Keywords: feminism
                  
                [plenty of good stuff deleted]

>As to the way women are addressed in Farsi, even though we too have a
>few colorful ones, I think our expressions are far less offensive than
>their counterparts in English.  I wouldn't object to "miss", "mrs.",
>"lady" and "maam".  I despise "gal", "honey", "sweetie" and specially
>"ms." because my marital status is not a matter I would like to hide,
>and I don't believe it has any bearing on my success factor in the
>work enironment.  But there is no telling what could happen to someone
>who may dare to call me "chick", "broad", or "bitch".  my objections
>are based on the offensiveness in a general sense and not because of
>their anti-feminist connotations.

SoheilA jAn,

Thanks for the input; I'm surprised that no other SCI khAnom had anything to 
say about this issue. I still am a bit unclear on what khAnomhA think 
about FArsi words that we use to call them; BTW, you never mentioned the 
colorful ones!
I can think of few words like jeegar talA, Abjee, khoshgeleh, etc. that 
could probably fit in the colorful category! Could you clarify that for us?



>P.S.1 Amoojoon, mash bAgher, bacheh morshed, residents of "ghahveh khAneh"
>      and all other interested parties may hold any door for me and I
>      guarantee you I will return the favor upon our next encounter.  As
>      for individuals who rate 0 or negative on the universal Assana
>      scale, you need not apply because I assure you, the door will be
>      promptly held to your face, if and when we ever meet :-)

BTW, amoojoon=bacheh morshed; also I think you meant mash ghanbar, or maybe
you actually know a mash BAgher in which case I apologize for 
misunderstanding.

khosh-o-khorram bAsheed

amoojoon

Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: aref@Tehran.Stanford.EDU (Modda'iyeh har hAzer va Vakileh har ghAyeb)
Subject: Re: Need your help!
Organization: VezArateh Mardom AzAri 
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:09:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr10.140620.21044@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu> 
mtaghavi@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Amir Taghavi) writes:
>
>
>I am planning to travel to Hamburg/Germany within next month. 

Does this mean that we will have a complete news blackout? 

:-)


Newsgroups: soc.culture.iranian
From: saied@odin.unomaha.edu (Saied*)
Subject: Re: Regime's motivations behind the defeated attack on an NLA base
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 17:36:41 GMT

bes@cco.caltech.edu (Behnam Sadeghi) writes:
>>What are regime motivations? Here are my own guesses:
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^                ^^^^^^^^^
>It doesn't require much thought or "guesses" to know what the
>government's motivation was in attacking the MKO base.  The
>so-called National Liberation Army has claimed that it will
>overthrow the government militarily.  In the past, it has 
>participated in military operations against Iran.  So, isn't
>the motivation obvious?

Of course! You must then admit that the regime's baseless
claim that an NLA unit attacked a border town was but a lie.

>>   To silence the people, the regime attempted to show some
>>   muscle but obviously was very unsuccessful. It killed one
>>   NLA combatant but lost two pilots to the NLA and got

>You must say: "ACCORDING TO IRAQ, it killed one NLA combatant...."

No, according to many reporters that reported the incident
from Ashraf base.

>[list of five possible motivations deleted.]

>>There could of course be other reasons.

>Could what I described POSSIBLY be a reason?   :-)

Yes. Of course. Actually, I think that is the major 
reason. This was embodied in my first guess: the regime's
fear of the NLA.

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