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From: kenp@kaos.wpd.sgi.com (Ken Powell)
Subject: New Chinese in Mountain View
Organization: Silicon Graphics Inc., Mountain View, CA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 05:44:52 GMT

I've just had two good experiences with a new restaurant so it's time
to tell the world.

Chef Lee is on Plymouth Street, near Shoreline Blvd. and the Century
10 Theatres in Mountain View.  That's on the Bay side of 101.  It's
been open 3 months now.  It is large and pretty plain, but clean and
modern.  Both times I went there were in the evening and only a few
tables were occupied.  I'm told they do a much bigger lunch crowd. 
It's open until 9:00 in the evening, 7 days.

My first dinner was "vegetable deluxe in garlic sauce", $4.95, with
some steamed rice.  The serving was large so I took some back to work
and had two dinners out of it.  The vegetables were extreemly fresh
and the dish had a balanced taste: not too spicy (although there *was*
a pepper next to it on the menu) but plenty of garlic.  The sauce was
not starchy, like I've experienced in some other places.

For the second visit, I went for more variety by ordering the dinner
plate.  My take-out menu says that's $5.95 but I think it was $6.95 on
the in-house menu.  The dinner plate is your basic soup plus
choose-3-out-of-10.  The soup was egg drop, which was hearty without
being heavy.  The water chestnuts were crunchy.  This had not been
sitting around.  I ordered egg rolls, kung pao beef, and chicken fried
rice.

The two egg rolls were very crunchy without being overdone.  The
vegetables inside were crunchy and and quite moist.  There was some
excess oil in evidence but it did not appear to get inside to drench
the thing.  Very good.  The kung pao was light (not thick or starchy)
and well balanced; spicy but not too hot.  The fried rice did not have
a tremendous amount of chicken in it (it never does), tasty, and not
sticky.

Overall, the food seemed very fresh and individually prepared.  I
asked my waitress about that and she confirmed that they do not cook
any vegetables until the order is in.  Even with that, all my items
came without much of a wait.  

Chef Lee's is quite good.  I rate it up with 4-5-6 in Saratoga/San
Jose.  But it's cleaner than that other top-rated place.  The food
wasn't as hot (spicy) as 4-5-6, however, but I'll bet you can "get it
your way" at Lee's, if you ask.

Why I'm plugging the place: I don't own stock in it.  It's incredibly
convenient for those evenings I'm working late.  Lee's does pretty
good for lunch but I want to make sure they're incented to remain
open in the evening.  And that sports bar next door is *soooo* yukky.

Chow Down,  /Ken


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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: tenney@netcom.com (Glenn S. Tenney)
Subject: Re: Where to get Cannoli?
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Distribution: ba
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 07:38:14 GMT

The original poster was looking for Cannoli in SF...

Not exactly in SF, but a fantastic place for hand made
cannoli (ices, gellati, ice cream, and specialty cakes)
is in San Mateo:

   Romolo's Ice Cream Spumoni and Cannoli Factory
   81 37th Ave.
   San Mateo, CA
   415-574-0625

   (This is just west of El Camino, the stoplight just
    south of the Hillsdale shopping center)

This is a great little family run place that's been around
for a long time.  We've gone there for many years and have
never been disappointed with any of their products. You
should call first to verify their hours.  When asking
for cannoli, they do have (shudder) ice cream ones as well
as the traditional version.  Be sure to ask for the 'real' ones!

While there, you might see if they have a Tira Misu available
(for specialty cakes, you should call ahead).  Talk about
eclectic, we had a sheet tira misu for our son's bar mitzvah
a few years ago -- wonderful!

Give 'em a try, say I sent you.  I have no relationship with
them other than being a long time satisfied customer.

-- 
Glenn Tenney
voice: (415) 574-3420      fax: (415) 574-0546
tenney@netcom.com          Ham radio: AA6ER
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: disraeli@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jamie Lara Bronstein)
Subject: Re: which Campbell soups are recalled?
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 20:22:37 GMT
From: viviana@igor.tamri.com (Vivian Aldridge)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Looking for lucn places inch places in Milbrae/So. SF
Date: 14 Dec 92 17:42:46 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: TOSHIBA America MRI, South San Francisco, CA


Hi,
I am looking for places to eat at in South San
Francisco or Milbrae. I'm particulary interested
in lunch time fare. Price range, not more than
$6.00 per person.

Recently I tried Ristorante Buon Gusto In South
San Francisco, but didn't like it much.
See my review below.

Please let me know of your favorites. I'm interested
in any kind of food. Restaurants can be take out,
sit down, or hole in the walls. As long as the
food is good, I'll be happy!

I will post a summary.

Thanks,
Vivian

viviana@tamri.com


************************************************
I went to the Buon Gusto restaurant for lunch with my Mom.
The alfredo pasta was delicious, the soup (minestrone)
was so-so. The salad dressing tasted like water. My
mother's chicken caccitore (sp?) was quite tasty.
However, the service we received was quite rushed. We felt
like they wanted us to eat and leave.

Prices at lunch time ranged from $8.25 (pasta) to $13.00 (steak).
Hours:11:30-3:00 for lunch.

224 Grand Ave
So. SF
742-9777
From: annie@garnet.berkeley.edu (Anne Jessop)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Where to get Cannoli?
Date: 18 Dec 92 02:10:21 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
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Originator: annie@garnet.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec17.073814.1817@netcom.com> tenney@netcom.com (Glenn S. Tenney) writes:
>The original poster was looking for Cannoli in SF...


This also is not in SF, but they make good cannoli.  Genova Delicatessen
on Telegraph at 50th or 51st in Oakland.  They're very close to the highway,
so it shouldn't be too hard.
In North Beach, there is a bakery that I don't know the name of on Columbus
somewhere close to Union.  (In the same general area as the Gold Spike,
same side of the street.)  I've never eaten there, but their window looks
mighty good.  There's also a cowboy boot store next door, or close.
Good Luck--
Annie
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: henry@ADS.COM (Henry Mensch)
Subject: Re: Poppy seeds?
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems; a div of Booz, Allen & Hamilton
Distribution: ba
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:35:41 GMT

chroma@hoptoad.UUCP (Steve in the Secret Labs) wrote: 
->I pretty much agree. If eating a food can cause you to lose a
->chance at a job and income and living and all that then it is a
->worthwhile piece of information to know.

better to know which employers are using bogus means to screen out
prospective employees ... if a poppy seed bagel is going to ruin my
chances of a job at XYZco then i'd be happy to work at ABCco instead.

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Newsgroups: ba.food
From: markt@cup.hp.com (Mark Thompson)
Subject: Re: Berkeley Wedding Reception
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:17:23 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4

Call Nadines on san pablo and ask for Jan Jons.  He is an wonderfull 
chef and great at setting up afairs like this.  Tell him i sent you.

Mark Thompson
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: New Chinese in Mountain View
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 22:25:08 GMT

In article <tlh3am0@twilight.wpd.sgi.com> kenp@kaos.wpd.sgi.com (Ken Powell) writes:
}I've just had two good experiences with a new restaurant so it's time
}to tell the world.

And I had one good and one horrid, so I'll tell the world, too:

The first time I went to Chef Lee's, I got an assorted appetizer
platter as takeout. It took over 20 minutes to arrive, but that
was OK. Most of the pupu and potstickers were quite good, but
the eggrolls were oily as hell. Still, all in all, not bad.

The second time a friend and I went there to sit down and have lunch.
We both ordered the shrimp in chef's special sauce. The special sauce
turned out to be a sickly sweet pseudo-sweet-and-sour watery orange
mess. The dish was so horrible that neither of us had more than a
couple of bites. I took the leftovers home to my dogs, who are not
nearly so discerning.

Other complaints I have heard are that the sauces in general are
either extremely bland, or at the least "weird" (unexpected and
not in an improved way).

So at best Chef Lee's seems to be very uneven, and it is probably
best to stick with things that you know well without fancy sauces.
I've also been told that garlic lovers and spicy lovers will go
away terribly disappointed, but as this conflicts with the firsthand
account from Ken I'll not say more until I try myself (if I ever do).
-- 
Curtis Jackson  DoD #721   '62 Yankee Brunette "Dorothy"    '81 Maxim 650
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com   '91 Black Lab "Studley"  '92 Collie/Golden "George"
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
From: lmb@netcom.com (Larry Blair)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Toss It Fresh in Mtn. View
Date: 16 Dec 92 22:46:22 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Glenwood Consulting, Scotts Valley, CA

In article <1992Dec10.180611.21734@Veritas.COM> joshua@Veritas.COM (Joshua Levy) writes:
=In article <1992Dec10.063435.11287@netcom.com> marv@netcom.com (Marvin Raab) writes:
=[ Talking about Toss it Fresh ]
=>Anyway, I was wondering if anyone else has tried it and why it always
=>seems so empty. Of course, it could be that I've only been there in
=>the evenings so it might be packed during the day but....anyone know?
=
=I've been there once.  I thought their pasta selection was smaller
=than Fresh Choice or Sweet Tomatos.  I'm sure their selection of
=everything else was smaller.  The quality was about the same.  The
=only advantage I saw to it was that there was not a Fresh Choice or
=Sweet Tomatos near it, so it might be easier to get to.

I work about 100 yds. from Toss It Fresh and I won't go there.  The problem
is that it costs the same as Fresh Choice or Sweet Tomatos and doesn't have
any of the goodies.  The salad bar at Sizzler down the street is cheaper and
has all sorts of goodies.  If I want something simple I can always go to the
Safeway next door.  They even have tables.
-- 
Larry Blair   lmb@netcom.com       Glenwood Consulting 408-438-6386
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: artemis@netcom.com (Michelle Dick)
Subject: Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Keywords: n
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 03:20:39 GMT

In article <Dec.18.15.01.50.1992.12907@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>
>I can't think of a single Castro Street Chinese restaurant I like.
>Kirin isn't too bad.

If you don't mind roaches, that is.  I got take-out once and ate in
once.  Saw roaches both times.  I went back the second time because
they are open late (til midnight), and the food was OK.

--
Michelle Dick
artemis@netcom.com
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: New Chinese in Mountain View
Date: 16 Dec 92 23:24:47 GMT
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View

In article <9212161354.AA24581@TIS.COM> avolio@TIS.COM writes:
}I'd be interested in a review of the Hot and Sour Soup at this place.
}I mean, if I am going to travel from the east coast for it, I need
}this benchmarked (and, the pot stickers, of course).

The potstickers were quite good -- definitely no complaints in that
department.

}(Not that I'd travel 3000 miles for food, but Motomachi, in Mtn View,
}figured prominently in a recent west coast visit... :-) )

Next time go to Ikenohana in Cupertino and you'll never go back to
the east coast. Just belly up to the sushi bar and tell Howard (it
is Howard, isn't it?) "Chef's Choice" and sit back for the sushi
time of your life.
-- 
Curtis Jackson  DoD #721   '62 Yankee Brunette "Dorothy"    '81 Maxim 650
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com   '91 Black Lab "Studley"  '92 Collie/Golden "George"
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: haynes@fivenine.apple.com (Charles Haynes)
Subject: Re: chinese restaurant in Mountain View
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:34:31 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc.
Keywords: ba

In article <12466@risky.Convergent.COM> path@pase70.Convergent.Com (Pat Herd) writes:
>There is a new Noodle Restaurant in Moutain View at Moffett blvd.
>between Central exwp. and Freeway 101.
> The noodles are excellent here and the soups are wonderful.
>              Check it out.
>
>The address is: 311 Moffett blvd. Moutain View.

That would be the new branch of Pho Xe Lua (sorry about the lack of
diacritical marks) I like their Lawrence/El Camino location and I'm
going to the new Moffett branch on Monday.

They are Vietnamese though, not Chinese, and have been discussed at length
here recently. The consensus was that they are a pretty good Pho place
though perhaps not as good as some places in San Jose.

Xref: sparky ba.food:3935 ba.general:5284
From: may@Apple.COM (Patrick May)
Newsgroups: ba.food,ba.general
Subject: New Year's Eve events around Campbell
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:11:46 GMT
Followup-To: ba.food
Distribution: ba
Organization: Apple Computer Inc, Cupertino, CA

Hi,

     My wife's parents and grandmother are visiting us over the holidays
and I've been assigned the task of finding New Year's Eve entertainment
acceptable to all.  The limiting factor is the grandmother who has had
hip surgery in the past couple of years and tires somewhat easily.  They
will be staying in the Pruneyard in Campbell.

     What events are scheduled in the Campbell/Los Gatos area that would
be enjoyable for four people who like to eat and drink heavily, three
people who like loud music (R & B, jazz, old rock), two people who are
naturally loud and boisterous, and one person who may bag out early, all
in five bodies?

Thanks for any help,

Patrick May
may@apple.com
------------------------------------------------------------------------
                              "A contract programmer is always intense."

Newsgroups: ba.food
From: jyc@leo.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Organization: DSO, Stanford University
Date: 17 Dec 92 23:38:28 GMT

jojo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanne Spetz) writes:

>Which places on Castro are good?  

   I've enjoyed the stuff at Food Street, a little hole-in-the-wall
place that specializes in noodles, roast duck, and roast pork.  They do
a lot of take out business and are one of the few Chinese restaurants
where you can get soup to go.        

   I've gotten noodles twice from Chef Wangs.  One time I got Singapore
Rice Noodles, which were just OK, and another time the Tan Tan noodles
with hand-pulled flour noodles, which were excellent.
From: chroma@hoptoad.uucp (Steve in the Secret Labs)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: Poppy seeds?
Date: 12 Dec 92 08:39:33 GMT
Reply-To: chroma@hoptoad.UUCP (Steve in the Secret Labs)
Distribution: ba
Organization: Skyline Genetic Engineering

In article <1992Dec3.214041.5310@oracle.us.oracle.com> rchilder@us.oracle.com (Richard Childers) writes:
>
>charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:
>
>>>	Maybe this doesn't belong on this newsgroup, but I guess anyone who
>>>	plans to eat poppy seeds ought to hear this anecdote :
>
>>You're right.  It doesn't belong on this newsgroup.
>
>I find it perfectly germane to the topic of foods, Charleen.
>
>
>-- richard
>
>-- 
>=====
>-- richard childers		rchilder@us.oracle.com		1 415 506 2411
>         oracle data center  --  unix systems & network administration
>                    Klein flask for rent. Inquire within.


I pretty much agree. If eating a food can cause you to lose a
chance at a job and income and living and all that then it is a
worthwhile piece of information to know. It is also nice to know
what regions will get bothered about what. It seemed that the case
described was really obnoxious. They took him to the restaurant and
fed him. This puts him in a double bind, it impolitique to refuse
to go to the restaurant of their choice but he is going to jeopardize
his chance of getting a job if he does.     

And now for something completely different...What do people know
in the way of 24 hour restaurants in the Bay Area? Especially
in SF, South Bay? Preferably beyond the usual run of Lyon's and 
Denny's etc. and all those things? Particularily Interested in
the strange kingdom of the mysterious East Bay! :)


			Have Fun,
			Sends Steve
rep:chroma@toad.com
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU (Dave Eisen)
Subject: Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Organization: Sequoia Peripherals, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 23:44:28 GMT

In article <1992Dec17.232428.28242@leland.Stanford.EDU> 
jojo@leland.Stanford.EDU (Joanne Spetz) writes:
>
>Which places on Castro are good?  
>
>We had a notably mediocre meal there once, and since then have eaten either
>at China Valley on State St. in Los Altos or Chef Chu's.  But, there are
>plenty of times that Chu's is packed or we're shopping on Castro.  

You're the third person I've talked to or read from recently
who's praised Chef Chu's. Am I the only person who thinks
they have terrible food? Every time I've eaten there (and it
has been a number of times --- one of my coworkers loves
it there), the food has had little or no flavor. I was under 
the impression (based on all the signed pictures of celebrities
on the walls) that it was the "in" place to go so they could
overcharge for mediocre food. Maybe it's just me.

When I want Chinese food in the area here, I usually go to
Jing Jing's in Palo Alto or Yuen Yung's in Menlo Park, or
if it's for dim sum, I go to Ming's.

>provide reviews of the restaurants that are notable in some way (good or bad)
>on Castro Street?  Other than cost, how do they compare to the restaurants
>I usually visit?
Hmmm. None of those are on Castro. I find it hard to keep 

the places on Castro Street straight because whenever I
go there I get a good meal, but not one that stands out
or anything. I usually go to Szechuan Garden or Hunan
Gourmet, but that is more because I have friends who 
like those places than that I've noticed they were better
than the rest. They are both pretty good though.

I too would like to hear the rest of the netters' opinions 
about which are the best restaurants on Castro St.




-- 
Dave Eisen                               Sequoia Peripherals: (415) 967-5644
dkeisen@leland.Stanford.EDU              Home:                (415) 321-5154
       There's something in my library to offend everybody. 
          --- Washington Coalition Against Censorship
From: zstern@adobe.com (Zalman Stern)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Date: 19 Dec 92 00:51:25 GMT
Distribution: ba
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated

In article <1992Dec18.161334.3249@netcom.com> bilan@netcom.com (Steve Bilan)  
writes:
> doctor@kronos.arc.nasa.gov (Terry Fong) writes:
> >
> >There is a fairly new noodles & soup restaurant on El
> >Camino near Castro (where the Mt. View "Jing Jing" used to be) that
> >has some fairly good dishes. The "Singapore Noodles" is pretty good
> >and I've been told that other noodle dishes are better than average...
> 
> 
> Gee.. Tell us about a new noodle shop and then give us such
> fantastic directions ...  Where Jing Jing used to be???
> 

Its called Kim Tar Barbeque (or something like that) and its a few blocks  
east (towards Sunnyvale) of Castro on the North (towards the bay) side of El  
Camino.
--
Zalman Stern		   zalman@adobe.com		    (415) 962 3824
Adobe Systems, 1585 Charleston Rd., POB 7900, Mountain View, CA 94039-7900
  "Yeah. Ask 'em if they'll upgrade my shifters too." Bill Watterson
Newsgroups: ba.food
From: dwang@ADS.COM (David Wang)
Subject: Re: New Chinese in Mountain View
Organization: Advanced Decision Systems, Mtn. View, CA (415)960-7300
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 22:49:50 GMT

In article <9212161354.AA24581@TIS.COM> avolio@TIS.COM writes:
>
>I'd be interested in a review of the Hot and Sour Soup at this place.
>I mean, if I am going to travel from the east coast for it, I need
>this benchmarked (and, the pot stickers, of course).
>

The Hot and Sour is so so.  Pot Stickers are terrible, one of the
worst I have tried.  There are much better Pot Stickers places
nearby.

the quality of the whole place is about a B-.

Good Portion, mediocre quality for most dishes.  Terrible
appetizers.

DLW
From: ambar@cygnus.com (Jean Marie Diaz)
Newsgroups: ba.food
Subject: Re: (New) Chinese in Mountain View
Date: 19 Dec 92 01:05:33 GMT
	<1992Dec18.225516.26091@leland.Stanford.EDU>
	<Dec.18.15.01.50.1992.12907@net.bio.net>
Organization: Redheads Anonymous
In-reply-to: charleen@net.bio.net's message of 18 Dec 92 23:01:50 GMT

In article <Dec.18.15.01.50.1992.12907@net.bio.net> charleen@net.bio.net (Charleen Bunjiovianna) writes:

   I can't think of a single Castro Street Chinese restaurant I like.
   Kirin isn't too bad.

I've recently become quite fond of the Hunan Gourmet (across from Double
Rainbow, closest to the railroad tracks).  While the in-house food is
more reliably good than the takeout (I've had disappointing takeout
potstickers once or twice), I've yet to be served a bad dish.  Try the
Mandarin Chicken or the Hunan Pork.  I can actually taste the tea in
their Tea-Smoked Duck, as well.

				AMBAR
From: an072@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Richard White)
Newsgroups: talk.bizarre
Subject: A test of the emergency posting system.
Date: 11 Dec 1992 22:49:55 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: rpwhite@taurus.cs.nps.navy.mil (rpwhite)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


This is only a test.
Were this a real post I would have written something incredibly stupid.

rp -- evading killfiles.
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From: rigler@dao.nrc.ca (Michael Rigler)
Subject: Re: t.b hits an awesome streak
Reply-To: rigler@dao.nrc.ca
Organization: DAO/CADC .
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 92 00:02:19 GMT

lordSnooty@cup.portal.com (Andrew - Palfreyman) writes:
>it's practically incredible, but there it is.
>december 8-10th-ish posts to t.b were the best
>i've seen since i can remember - years and years.

December 8th, eh?  Why, that's when Sioux began posting here.  Coincidence?

Bring back Tracy Fitch...

---
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Rigler        of depravity is beneath me.  Animal, vegetable or
              mineral:  I'll DO anything TO anything."
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