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From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: MIT's "Infinite Corridor"
Date: 9 Apr 92 00:53:51 GMT
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Followup-To: alt.folklore.urban
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Apr08.211713.14988@sdd.hp.com> tmm@sdd.hp.com (Tim McDonough) writes:
>I'm also quite sure the long corridor in the IBM Rochester Plant is longer than
>a quarter mile.  It goes all the way from the Lab through Manufacturing, and
>then out to the wherehouses.  

Damn, IBM has wherehouses?!?  I thought the things were immortal!  I hope
they have some sort of health procedure to keep people from getting
venerable diseases.
-- 
Ted Frank          + "A word is not a crystal, transparent and unchanged, it
1307 E 60 St, #109 +  is the skin of a living thought and may vary greatly in
U o' C Law Skool   +  color and content according to the circumstances and
Chi, IL 60637      +  the time in which it is used."  --  Holmes
From: zkessin@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Zach Kessin)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: creatively names buildings
Date: 11 Apr 92 04:39:14 GMT
Organization: Brandeis University

lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Elisabeth Riba) writes:

>st890020@pip.cc.brandeis.edu (Eureka!) writes:

>>At Brandeis, our new gym is the Joseph and Clara Ford Sports and Convocation
>>Center, and the Gosman Complex.  (By the way, to the others from brandeis,
>>why does it have two names? Which is the correct one?) Anyway, instead of
>>calling it "The Plex" as someone suggested (was it Rick or Rod), for a while
>>we were calling it "The Gosman thingy".  I don't thinkit stuck--I think most
>>people just call it the gym.
>>Anyone from Brandeis is free to correct me if I'm wrong....
>>--Erica

>You forgot to mention that Brandeis ALREADY has a Ford Hall (the CoSci
>building)  Of course, the name for the old gym (Shapiro) waas also
>duplicated elsewhere on campus.  Being a Jewish University means that
>we also have a Golding, Goldman, Goldsmith and Goldfarb.  
>A wonderful campus--where there NEVER is a straight line between any
>two points (or at least, between two buildings)
>-- 
>--------------->Elisabeth Anne Riba * lis@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu<--------------
>It is said that the gods play games with the lives of men. But what games, and
>why, and the identities of the actual pawns, and what the game is, and what the
>rules are--who knows? Best not to speculate. Thunder rolled... It rolled a six.
We seam to duplicate names a lot, for example:
there is the Usen Casle and Usen hall over in Massel quad.
there is the Yawkus plaza in the middle of the student center and
      the Yawkus pond over in Massel.
the Hassinfeld dorm and conference center.
also the Foster mods (dorms) and the Foster labs.
the Lemberg wing of the student center and Lemberg hall right behind
it.

there may be a few others that i have missed.

--Zach

   Zachary Kessin               
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Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: exuhag@exu.ericsson.se (James Hague)
Subject: Re: those wacky chemicals Picric Acid
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson, TX
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 17:19:36 GMT

David Christopher Wiggins writes:
>
>In regards Picric Acid - this _*IS*_ dangerous shit!
>The problem is not tthe picric acid form but the cyrstalized form.
>That stuff is so unstable it will go off with a cross look. 
>Or because it wants too, I don't knoiw what floats the boat of
>unstable compounds.  Regardless, back in the mid 80's a number of
>smaller High Schools in Oregon got visits from the Army EOD folks
>when it was discovered that they had "Antiquated" Regents of Picric
>Acid crystalized on the Storeroom shelves.  Usual "it was only a mircacle
>it didn't explode .. " quotes.

There was a private school around Dallas that had the same
thing happen around 1987--they found a big bottle of the stuff
that had been sitting around for maybe 50 years (on the top
of some old metal shelves nonetheless).  The bomb squad was
called in to take it out.

The same school also had a great incident a few years later.
They built an entirely new science building complete with
state of the art chemical stockrooms.  There was a big fire
when the stockroom shelving fell apart one night...

The institution in question is St. Mark's school of Texas
if anyone cares.
--
James Hague   
exuhag@exu.ericsson.se
From: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Fraternities
Date: 12 Apr 92 21:31:49 GMT
Reply-To: gross@befvax.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago, Dept of Molecular Genetics

In article <1992Apr12.151604.6272@athena.mit.edu>, wdstarr@athena.mit.edu (William December Starr) writes:
>
>(What the hell is this debate doing in alt.folklore.college, anyway?)
>
>In article <1992Apr11.223330.26302@midway.uchicago.edu>, 
>gross@befvax.uchicago.edu said:
>
>=> Another example, a bunch of frat members at my undergrad college
>=> A friend of mine who went to Kansas University (KU) and was in a
>=> frat told me of a party that the fraterinity sponosred, where they
>=> rented a bus that went around campus and picked up each of the
>=> brother's dates.  As the woman came towards the bus, the frat
>=> members yelled "Cunt!", "Bitch!", "Whore!", "Slut!" at the women.
>=> (Actually I think it was "That's John's slut!", or "Here's Mike's
>=> cunt!").
>
>*  *  *
>
>=> Also, it was well known that to become a 'little sister' of the
>=> frat one had to sleep with one of the brothers.  The women also
>=> had initiation, which was essentially an abuse of power.
>
>Sounds to me as though all the participants, male and female, in
>these activities were there voluntarily.  (The girlfriends didn't
>have to ride in the bus, or even remain girlfriends, and nobody
>_has_ to become a little sister.)  So what's the big problem?

Hazing is 'voluntary', but it's still abusive and harmful.  Not
all the women knew about the fraternity's bus tradition.  And in both
cases it's the men who are in power, and the women who are not.
The point is that the fraternity, as an institution, has practices
that are abusive to women and show lack of respect for them.

Look at the attitude towards women indicated by the stories above,  
and then tell me whether you would want female friends of yours to
go to any of their frat functions, and whether you think they would
be treated with respect.  If they call some women names, why not all?
If they demand that certain women sleep with them, why not all?

You also deleted the other story.  My friend did not 'voluntarily' 
have the rest of his frat pretend that they were in Aushwitz 
they were in the frat's shower.  But on your argument, he could have
left and he joined voluntarily so it's OK, right? 

>=> No amount of voluntary community service can make up for the kinds
>=> of behavior described above.  And this is not the actions of
>=> individuals, but of the fraternity as a whole.
>
>Why does anyone have to "make up" for the kind of behavior they
>practice among themselves?

Because some of the behavior that people do among themselves is illegal,
harmful, abusive, and in violation of the schools disciplinary code.
The cases I gave are cases of sexual and ethnic harassment.  
Furthermore, if they behave that way among themselves, they are more
likely to behave that way to non members, and then it does become
an issue of "making up for it."

>-- William December Starr <wdstarr@athena.mit.edu>

Leon Gross
I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: npalmer@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Nicholas P Palmer)
Subject: Re: Collegiate Pets
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:49:12 GMT

I just know of the usual odd pets:
Tarantula, ferret, Big Iguana, snakes.

Not too much wild stuff.

Kudo's to the guy with the Chinchilla!

Nik
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.college:1388 soc.college:1984
From: koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,soc.college
Subject: Re: Fraternities  was (Re: still more practical j
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:36:39 GMT
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Apr13.205104.1899@midway.uchicago.edu> gross@befvax.uchicago.edu writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.000138.11026@husc3.harvard.edu>, koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis) writes:
>>
>>
>>How about all the real life women who are beaten or killed (11 so
>>far in Mass. this year) by boyfriends or husbands.  THose stats
>>are not used to prove men fuck up women lives in general (though
>>obviuosly they did here) but to show there is problem of violence
>>against women.
>
>I'll keep this short.  Domestic violence goes both ways.  People in
>soc.men and soc.women discuss this and know stats.  Please follow
>up this discussion to soc.men and/or soc.women.
>
>Leon Gross
>I'm not an actor, but I play one on TV.

My point was not to discuss domestic violence but to point outwhat
I thought was an illogical argument of the poster I was replying to.
If you had excerpted my comment with the comment I was replying to you
would see this was so.
Xref: sparky alt.folklore.college:1311 soc.college:1882
From: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Ted Frank)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,soc.college
Subject: Re: Fraternities  was (Re: still more practical jokes
Date: 12 Apr 92 17:12:40 GMT
Article-I.D.: midway.1992Apr12.171240.13176
Reply-To: thf2@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Apr12.125345.4991@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>That's very interesting. You took a logical, rational argument, and turned it 
>into a personal attack. Kind of a cheap attack, don't you think? Not that I'm
>upset, but you're taking what started out as a controlled, rational dialogue
>and turning it into a series of cheap shots (I'm trying to keep any chear shots
>out of this posting, but it's getting difficult, it's soooooooooooooo tempting.
>Anyway, if you have a rational argument to make, make it. If not, flame me 
>email. Keep the argument rational, or it's going to get boring.

Where was there a personal attack?  Is it my fault that he trotted out
the same old tired arguments that have (1) already been refuted and (2)
are completely self-contradictory?  It's obvious that you didn't even
read the post.
-- 
Ted Frank          + "He wanted to be the car rather than the thimble or the
1307 E 60 St, #109 +  hat."  -- District attorney explaining Marc Cienkowski's
U o' C Law Skool   +  murder with bow and arrow of Michael Klucznik in
Chi, IL 60637      +  Doylestown Borough, PA over a game of Monopoly.
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,alt.folklore.urban
From: frank@rover.uchicago.edu (Frank - Hardware Hacker - Borger)
Subject: Re: MIT's "Infinite Corridor"
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Reply-To: frank@rover.uchicago.edu
Organization: Joint Center for Radiation Therapy
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 21:44:00 GMT

In article <mdbomber.702756945@w6yx>, mdbomber@w6yx (Matt Bartley) writes...
> 
>The linear accellerator here at Stanford is in a cluster of buildings that
>form an impressive 2 mile long corridor.  I've never been able to get into
>one end of it and look all the way down, but I've been in the center of it.
>It's plenty impressive there.
> 

	How do you keep a physics grad student busy?

	Put him in the corridor at Fermilab, and tell him to look for the end!

+---_      Frank R. Borger - Physicist     Internet:  Frank@rover.uchicago.edu
|__|_)  Michael Reese  - Univ. of Chicago  Phone : 312-791-8075 fax : 567-7455
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Organization: University Libraries - Library Automatio, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Date: Thu,  9 Apr 1992 12:14:02 -0400 
From: Esther Filderman <ef1c+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: Creativly Named Buildings (Not!)
	<1992Apr9.004827.9699@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
	<4dt4oGq00VRSAANbQ0@andrew.cmu.edu>
Distribution: na


I spent a year at Clarion University of Pennsylvania (in gorgeous
Clarion, Pennsylvania. It's not the end of the world, but you can see it
from there :).  There were two dorms there, "towers" (they towered well
over the usual 5 story-high buildings), called Nair and Wilkinson.  We
used to call them the Depiladorms (as in depilatories).

Before that I went to and now work at Carnegie Mellon University (aka
Cranberry Melon, Carnage Meltdown, etc.).  Someone already mentioned the
"new" dorms, Resnik and "west wing".  When they were just under
construction we lobbied for different names.  You see, the "new" dorms
are next to a really fugly dorm, looks like it's made of aluminum and
glass, called Donner Hall.  Obviously, we thought, the new dorms should
be called Blizten Hall (or, more properly, Blizten East and Blizten
West).   Some friends who live in "west wing" still get mad at me for
calling it Blizten West instead.

CMU also has two buildings named for the first President of Carnegie
Tech, a guy named Hamerschlag.  So, there is Hamerschlag Hall (an
academic building) and Hamerschlag House (a dorm).  The confusion here
is usually avoided by refering to the dorm as "'schlag" but your head
can occasionally spin.

Of course, then there was when a person named Hammerschlag (yes, he was
related) went to school here, but that's another tale ...

-------------------------------------------------------------
  Esther C. Filderman      ef1c+@andrew.cmu.edu
  System Mangler           Library Automation
  Mercury Project          Carnegie Mellon University

 "It's psychosomatic.  You need a lobotomy.  I'll get a saw."
		-- Calvin and Hobbes
From: beckley@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Jeff Beckley)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Prof's accents
Date: 17 Apr 92 16:59:58 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

I had a Japanese professor for a lower-division hardware class named Suda that
was very hard to understand.  I used to keep a Suda-to-English/English-to-Suda
dictionary in my notebook for that class that my buddies and I would update
almost daily.

The best entry was English:version/Suda:virgin.  He took us all aback when he
stated that for the midterm, "There will be three virgins for the test."
There should be more college courses like this.

-- 
beckley@qualcomm.com         "A witty saying proves nothing." -- Voltaire
From: certain@hatteras.cs.unc.edu (Andrew Certain)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Notable Quotables
Date: 10 Apr 92 17:44:43 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Originator: certain@hatteras


I posted this to soc.college.grad, but I guess this is a good place
for it too....

I am trying to compile a list of humorous/witty/pithy/etc quotes uttered
by professors.  If you have collected any of these, please email them to
me.  I will compile a list and post it back to the net.

Some examples:
"Thinking is so hard that we almost never do it."
        -- Robert Wilensky (UC Professor), 1990.

"Math is the art of avoiding computation."
        -- B Parlett (UC Professor), 1989.

"American induction is when you do something three times and get the idea."
        -- Dr. Karl Petersen (UNC Professor)


Thanks.

_____________________Andrew_Certain_(certain@cs.unc.edu)_____________________
The Civil War was the best war we've ever had because when
you're fighting with yourself, you're always going to win.
		-- Dan Quayle
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,isu.talk.misc
From: mds@iastate.edu (Mark D. Smucker)
Subject: Re: fraternities
Organization: Iowa State University of Censorship and Repression
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 18:55:13 GMT

In article <1992Apr8.222530.4909@ac.dal.ca> 01sybok@ac.dal.ca writes:
>In article <1992Apr3.015939.9975@news.iastate.edu>, mds@iastate.edu (Mark D. Smucker) writes:
>What was that something? In which edition of Time? What was the name of the
>article? I could say the same thing, except state that the greeks won, but
>without proper references, I'm going to have a hard time making myself heard.

Okay, I went to the library.  I am wrong.  My apologies. The article
in question is from v 135 pages 64-5 April 16 1990.  It is entitled
something like, ``The war against the greeks.''  What the article does
state is that Middlebury College in Vermont has made single sex
organizations against university rules.  There is a photo of 2 or 3 of
the 16 new female pledges to Sigma Epsilon eating pizza.

It is my belief that if women do challenge the fraternities legally,
the fraternities will lose. ( One would argue that fraternities offer
men in the greek system an advantage over women in the greek system
because it is the fraternities that build business contacts etc.. )

>> 	On another note, why have the frats gotten rid of the Little
>> Sister programs?  Because from what I heard, too may little sis's were
>                    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^        
>> getting raped by their big bro's.
>
>If you'd bothered to read my last posting ( or if it had gone through your 
>thick skull), you'd have noticed that one of the main points of the post was 
>that YOU CAN'T USE RUMOURS AS EVIDENCE! THEY CAN BVE MADE UP BY ANYONE, AT
>ANY TIME ABOUT ANYTHING!

While in the library I looked up an article in U.S. News and World
Report.  The article is entitled, ``When sex is the issue.''  It can
be found in v 111 pages 34+ Oct 7 1991.

Quotes from the article:

	``A 1990 national survey of more than 12,000 students
	by the Campus Violence Prevention Center at Maryland's
	Towson State University found that about half of all 
	reported acquaintance rapes were committed by frat members
	and athletes.''

	``A 1990 study by the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
	concluded that 34 of the 54 reported sexual assaults were by
	fraternity men, even though they represent just a quarter of
	male students on campus.''

And on the issue of drinking, they throw in without references,

	``...and a slew of studies have shown that fraternity members
	consume more alcohol than other college students.''


Would you like me to get more research material?  There isn't a lack
for it.

Mark D. Smucker  ----  mds@iastate.edu

	* I do have friends in the greek system, just not very many. *


Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college,soc.college,soc.women,talk.rape
From: reyy@vax5.cit.cornell.edu
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: a thought about "frats"
Date: 6 Apr 92 10:42:05 EST
Distribution: world
Organization: Cornell University

In article <unruley.702368746@mcl>,
unruley@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu (Kriss Boyce) writes: 
> I recently attended my first fraternity party (and probably last) and was
> given an interesting quote:
> "Don't call them 'frats', after all would you call your country a 'cunt'?"
> 
> just a thought...
> kriss "flame me. i'm bored" boyce

I've heard this a lot before (I think Dartmouth fraternities are
big on this saying), but I never really understood it.  My name
is David, should I be offended if someone calls me Dave?

just another thought...

David S. Rowell
REYY@Vax5.cit.cornell.edu
.sig available upon request
From: Don.Macphee@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Don Macphee)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Hacking
Date: 11 Apr 92 07:09:43 GMT
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service

Somewhat related, but a TRUE story. (Better than net.true!)

[Quoted without permission from the local URI paper "The Good 5 Cent
Cigar" Vol22 Iss96 4/16/92]

Student Arrested for Fixing Bill
by Kelly Carter (News Editor)
[ I have omitted the name of the offending party -Don.]

  Most students at one time or another dream about somehow fixing their
school bill, perhaps deleting tuition or granting themselves a refund.
One URI student tried that but got caught.

  [Joe], 22 of [Dorm], was arrested and arraigned on Wednesday morning
on three felony counts of obtaining money under false pretenses. Police
records state that [Joe] accessed the URI computer and credited himself
with $628 in October, $600 in November and $958 in Februrary.
  
  [Joe] gained access to his bill through his job at the Office of
Residential Life (ORL) inputting information into the university
computer system.

  [Joe], employed at the ORL assignment office since May, deleted his
housing fees on Feb. 4, according to police records. Then he called the
Bursar's Office to claim a refund. A clerk noticed the amount of the
refund was exactly $2,978, the total housing fees for a year. The clerk
then checked to see if [Joe] had a meal plan [Meal plan is req. for all
dorm res. -Don] and he did. ORL was alerted of the problem. [Joe] said
it was a mistake, according to police records. But on Feb. 11, he tried
again, and on Feb. 13 picked up his last check [I think refund -Don].

  The three-week police investigation found [Joe] had made 59 entries to
his account since May 31 resulting in two semesters without housing
fees.

  [Joe] was released on $10,000 personal recognizance and has a felony
screening scheduled on May 13.

End Article.

Begin ObComment.

  The fact that he managed to pull this off 2 semesters running
surprises me. (They are MILITANT about refunds.) But other than that,
I'd suspect this [Joe] is going to be paying out some serious dough, and
then getting elected to a RI political office. :)

Don.MacPhee@bbs.Oit.Unc.Edu
--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
           internet:  bbs.oit.unc.edu or 152.2.22.80
From: rdippold@qualcom.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
Subject: Re: Profs: The good, the bad, the metaphysicallly disabled.....
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:17:22 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA


We had a Dr. Lebaric who didn't have much of an accent, but he had
less than a stranglehold on terms that sounded similar.  He'd lock
onto one of them and continue to use it forever.  For instance,
"series" and "serious" were exchanged.  It was Circuits 1, in which
you have lots and lots of series components, and we would always be
talking about the resistors "in serious," and telling us to "get
series" when we didn't pay attention to his worthless lectures.  He
had quite a few others he did that with, but that's the one I
remembered best.   Actually, we had other professors with worse
problems with English, but we always made fun of this guy since he was
such a jerk.
-- 
Have you been napping in front of the ion shield again?
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.college
From: twap8@isuvax.iastate.edu (Mike McNarney)
Subject: Scanner legality
Reply-To: twap8@isuvax.iastate.edu
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames, Iowa
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 19:53:23 GMT

All right, STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP STOP. I will NOT be a party
to a flamewar on this newsgroup! I SPECIFICALLY said in my disclaimer
posting that if you wanted to flame me FINE, but do it on email and 
do NOT waste bandwidth on this group. If you have a problem with the
ethics of this, email ME and tell me so, don't waste the time and bandwidth
of other readers! 

Grr, now I feel better getting that off. To those citing ECPA, et. al. in
the (correct) defense of listening, please email detractors, don't ost to them. Thanks.

----------------------------------
Mike McNarney
twap8@isuvax.bitnet
Iowa State University, USENET censors
Ames, IA 50013-0007
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