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From: reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Prelude to a Kiss is the best!
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:20:22 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department

Spoilers follow

In article <1992Jul23.193755.1986@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> ecl@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (Evelyn C. Leeper) writes:
>
>My complaint, and it's a minor one (or is it?), is that the editing of
>the kiss between Peter and Rita after Peter's phone call to Rita's
>mother is far too abrupt.  
. . .
>decision was Rene's, so I will stick the blame to the studio, who was
>probably extremely nervous about the whole thing.  (Maybe, just maybe,
>they will restore the scene on the videocassette.  I had heard that
>there was a test screening without the kiss entirely, and that was
>rated lower than with the kiss, so I suspect the audience has more
>taste than the studio gives them credit for.)

The studio did want this kiss cut, and there were lots of test screenings,
including one without it that didn't go over too well.  But, unfortunately,
the studio had a point.  When I saw the film, several members of the
audiences went "Ewwwww, gross!" (or the equivalent thereof) at this
point.  It's a pity, but sometimes the studios' low opinions of the
taste, broadmindedness, and discernment of American audiences proves
to be spot on.

--
		Peter Reiher
		reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu
From: bonness@cae.wisc.edu (Matthew Bonness)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Need Clockwork Orange Info
Keywords: Walter Carlos, Beethoven, Rossini, Elgar
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:04:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: U of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering

Can anyone refresh my memory - it's been a while since
I last watched Stanley Kubrick's classic, and I can't
exactly remember what music was used in what scenes.
All I remember is that the William Tell overture finale
was used in the hyper-fast scene. If anyone remembers
the soundtrack details, please reply. Thanks.

------
Matt. 
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From: koops@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Luke Koops)
Subject: Re: The soundtrack of Until the End of the World
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 21:23:27 GMT

In article <18a73c3c@p99.f42.n242.z2.fidonet.org> Erik_Schmidt@wharfrat.fido.de (Erik Schmidt) writes:
>
>Here's the list from the german version of the soundtrack ("Bis ans Ende der 
>Welt", Warner). I noticed that there is at least an american version of the 
>soundtrack without the three Songs from the original score.
>
>
>1)  Opening Titles
>    (Original Score)
>    2:00
>2)  Julee Cruise
>    Summer kisses, winter tears
>    2:35
  .
  .
  .
>17) Finale
>    (Original Score)
>    0:55
>

My version of this soundtrack (which I presume is the American one, as I live
in Canada), also has a track called "Sax and Violins" by Talking Heads.
It doesn't look like there are any other differences in the lists (from memory
which is not very good).

..Steve van der Burg
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From: uhschreg@cip.informatik.uni-erlangen.de (Ulrich Schreglmann)
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Organization: Student Pool, CSD, University of Erlangen, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 11:33:57 GMT

morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (The Jack Elmo Society Black Book) writes:

>	If William Shakespeare had a $100 million budget and computer-aided
>graphics, Hamlet might well have turned out very much like Terminator 2.

Whoa! I guess this is hyping it a bit too far.
(I mean in Hamlet everybody killed anybody, or drove to death at least,
and there was no good side. There's no way thou couldest call T2 tragic 
compared to that.)


May the Cool be with Thee!

(C)OOL mcmxcii
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From: tedk@jpl.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Ted Ko)
Subject: Re: TERMINATOR II
Organization: Bellcore
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 92 17:04:07 GMT


|
|> Yes, they should settle that problem by destroying Skynet once and for
|> all and putting an end to the sequels.  T2 was to Terminator what Highlander
|> 2 was to Highlander (and no, I don't just mean a sequel, I mean a *bad*
|> sequel).
|> 
|> 
|

I think that's the first time I've heard anyone say they really disliked T2.
Personally, I put it in my top ten of all time.  What about it was so bad
that it deserves comparison with Highlander 2?

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From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: re: Christopher Walken
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1992 22:28:35 GMT

In article <1992Jul16.160144.15408@cbnewse.cb.att.com>  
gmark@cbnewse.cb.att.com (gilbert.m.stewart) writes:
> In article <1992Jul16.134714.27588@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>,  
cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen) writes:
> > 
> > K. Workman writes:
> > 
> > The Deer Hunter (for which he won an Academy Award)
> > The Dead Zone (in my opinion his best performance to date)
> > At Close Range (well-done film with great work from Sean Penn)
> > 
> > If you haven't seen one or all of these films, make a trip to
> > your video store and get them. It won't be wasted money.
> 
> Ditto for, of course, The Deerhunter.  Also see King of New York.
> Excellent.  And, was it just me who thought that Communion got
> a bum rap from the theaters?  I wonder how it's doing on video.
> I waited quite awhile to see it, and although surprised by the
> style, was not disappointed.  I found it pretty creepy.
> 
> GMS

Am I the only one on this newsgroup who liked "Comfort of Strangers" ?
Gadzooks, it was Walken at his finest. Helen Mirren is in it too...

AK
From: bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu (Greg Bole)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Howards End (was Re: Howard's End)
Summary: Sorry, couldn't help it.
Date: 30 Jul 92 16:27:35 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: HHMI/Human Genetics, Univ of Pa.

In article <2045@diasonx.UUCP>, quang@diasonx.UUCP (Quang Ton) writes:
> I've seen Howard's End but did not like the movie at all despite raving 
> reviews.  Does anyone out there feel the same way or is it just me being 
> a lame brain ?

You're not a lame brain...at least not beacuse of this.  :^)

Not all movies are for everybody.  I read a review that complained of 
_Howards End_ being overly slow and emotionally dull.  Personally I loved
it, but I realize it can't suit everyone.

But you could see some of the beauty in the cinimatography, and direction,
right?  And you do admit some of the roles were very well acted, right?

ObNitPick:  It's _Howards End_...not _Howard's End_.  No posessive.
                                            ^

Greg Bole                               "When you wake up, wipe the slugs off
bole@hmivax.humgen.upenn.edu             your face.  Be ready for a new day!"
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From: sallyn@pyrxbooter.eng.pyramid.com (Sally Norton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Ornella not Greta
Summary: Flash Gordon role
Date: 30 Jul 92 21:50:21 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Pyramid Technology


> Well I'm not a fan of Greta Scacchi, but I'm pretty certain that she's Italian.
>If I'm not mistaken, she played the princess in "Flash Gordon", and played
>absolutly awful.
>
>
>Jacob

    The princess in "Flash Gordon" was played by
    Italian actress, Ornella Muti. She also made "Don Juan" (a TV movie)
    with Richard Chamberlain and "Swan in Love" 
    (based on the Proust novel) with Jeremy Irons.

    

    Sally (sallyn@pyrxbooter.pyramid.com)

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From: jjonsson@alexandria.lib.utah.edu
Subject: Re: RASPUTIN
Organization: Marriott Library, University of Utah
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 02:14:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul29.164528.16581@cs.ucla.edu> reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes:

>While we're on the subject of Russian film and Eisenstein, does anyone 
>know for certain whether they actually found Eisenstein's lost film in
>the KGB archives or not?  The KGB definitely seized one of his incomplete
>films, and I heard talk that people hoped to turn it up somewhere in
>the huge pile of stuff they confiscated, but has it actually been found?

>--
>               Peter Reiher
>               reiher@wells.cs.ucla.edu

Actually, they found Eisenstein's brain, as funny as that may sound, in the 
"Institute of Brain," which was an institute set up by the communist govt. 
to analyse the brains of great soviet communists.

Jeff Jonsson
Marriott Library System Support, University of Utah.
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From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: Europa (Zentropa)
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 19:45:09 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.002750.81381@cs.cmu.edu> clamen@CS.CMU.EDU (Stewart  
Clamen) writes:
> 
> This past weekend, on a visit to Toronto, I saw a European movie
> (really a German-Danish-Swedish-French movie filmed in Poland) called
> _EUROPA_.  It concerns a German-American who goes to work in Germany
> in the Allied occupation period following WWII.
> 
> I was wondering what opinions the r.a.movies readership had concerning
> this movie.

Here in the states it's distributed as _Zentropa_. I saw it last weekend  
and enjoyed it. I really liked the rear projection technique they used.  
The story was pretty typical of German post-war angst things I've seen  
before, but still fresh. I have to admit I'm into that stuff, so I may may  
let slide what others consider overdone. Certainly an amazing film to  
watch. People have compared it to Barton Fink, as both films appeared at  
Cannes at the same time, I believe, but this was way better, at least for  
me, because I felt I understood the filmakers' intentions.

AK

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From: dododge@wam.umd.edu (David O. Dodge)
Subject: Re: _Stand By Me_ Query SPOILER
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 09:21:39 GMT

In article <13583@mindlink.bc.ca> Crawford_Kilian@mindlink.bc.ca (Crawford Kilian) writes:
>What got me about the last scene of this movie was that the author, after a
>self-satisfied smile at the literary power of his last line, turned off his
>computer without bothering to save his file. That to me was just the climactic
>piece of stupefaction in a  truly, madly, deeply stupid movie.

This has been brought to Rob Reiner's attention on MANY occasions. His
position is that there is a change in the camera angle before you see
Dreyfus turn off the computer, and therefore he may have saved his files,
exited the program, etc and Reiner just "skipped" showing us this. :-)

                                         -Dave Dodge/dododge@wam.umd.edu
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From: jon@leland.Stanford.EDU (Jon Corelis)
Subject: Re: Audience Comments During Movies
Organization: Jon's Cafe Americain
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 22:29:44 GMT


   One audience comment I remember well occurred during a screening of
"Fail-safe" at Stanford University a number of years ago.  This film
tells the hypothetical story of a US nuclear bomber which has mistakenly
been given irrevocable orders to attack Moscow.  In order to avoid a
nuclear war, the American President, played by Henry Fonda, tells the
Soviet premier that if the bombing of Moscow takes place, he will order
that another nuclear bomber also destroy New York City.  At this point a
voice from the balcony screamed, "Los Angeles!"  It brought the house
down.

   (Though maybe you have to be from the San Francisco area to
understand.) 
-- 


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From: maus@fid.morgan.com (Malcolm Austin)
Subject: Re: Audience Comments During Movies
Organization: Morgan Stanley & Co., New York, NY
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:10:14 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.000713.28423@athena.mit.edu> eprice@sql.sybase.com writes:
>In article <1992Jul29.112122.4996@avalon.nwc.navy.mil>
<dejesus@archimedes.nwc.navy.mil (Francisco X DeJesus) writes:
<
<<In "The Last Boy Scout", intro scene, right after the football player gets
<<to the end zone and shoots himself, someone remarked: "So, does the touchdown
<<count?"
<
<Heh.  Maybe they'd call "inappropriate unsportsmanlike endzone
<celebration" or whatever.  Clearly the player committed a Foul, the
<question is How Many Yards on the Penalty?
<
<-Ed (not Tim), eprice@sql.sybase.com (not wildman@athena.mit.edu)

Clearly the penalty should be two yards downward.

Alternatively, on the following kickoff you might require that the 
football be teed on a bucket.

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From: med50003@nusunix3.nus.sg (WANSAICHEONG KHIN-LIN)
Subject: Lenny von Dohlen
Organization: National University of Singapore
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 11:58:50 GMT

Does anyone know what other films the above actor has starred in apart
from `Electric dreams'? I know he played Harold Smith in Twin Peaks but
I hadn't seen him in anything else. Would appreciate replies...

Gervais
med50003@nusunix2.nus.sg

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From: stame@emunix.emich.edu (Stewart Tame)
Subject: Re: REVIEW: NAKED LUNCH
Organization: Eastern Michigan University
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 01:46:10 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.222613.21723@organpipe.uug.arizona.edu> kachun@astro.as.arizona.edu (Ka Chun Yu) writes:
>Cronenberg was once quoted (somewhere) as saying that a true adaptation of
>the book would result in a movie that would cost several $100 million, which
>was why it was decided early on that the movie would be about the writing of
>the book, _Naked Lunch_, not a real adapation.

I also seem to remember the quote as continuing, something to the effect of,
"And it would be banned in every country in the world for different
reasons."

>>My favourite scenes are those in which Peter Weller spins ridiculous
>>tales out of nothing to amuse / confuse or just to play with the words.
>
>I got the feeling that those were passages straight out of the book.  Is there
>anyone who's read the book and seen the movie who can confirm this?

I remember the bit about the guy who taught his asshole to talk being in the
book.  It's been a while since I've read the book (about seven months or
so) so the memory isn't *real* fresh.  Wonderful book.  I recommend it
highly.

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From: fehr@ms.uky.edu (Jeff Davis)
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 18:25:37 GMT
Organization: Loose Affiliation of Millionaires and Billionaires and Baby

ed@wente.llnl.gov Ed Suranyi writes:
>
>So here are my favorites:
>
>West Side Story -- Not only is this my favorite musical, but it's one of
>my top ten movies of all genres.  Even though I've seen it many times,
>Leonard Bernstein's music still thrills me, and Maria's speech at the 
>end of the movie always leaves me in tears.

I'd list this as my most disappointing musical. I know for a lot of
people my age that soundtrack was the first non-rock music that we
heard extensively. The music is great, but the movie is static and
goofy. Most perverse fun: scatalogical variations on "Maria." A horrible
song...insanely treacly lyric.

[others deleted]

Singing in the Rain : the most immediately pleasurable movie I can
think of. I've watched it half a dozen times and it bowls me over.
I like it, my wife likes it, even my kids like it. I seriously
suspect that people who don't like it are pods. Even more fun than
"The Miracle of Morgan Creek."  

Top Hat: The best Fred&Ginger. The best tunes & almost the best 
dancing of all the Astaire movies.

Also rans: Groucho singing Harry Ruby songs. "A Hard Days Night"
-- 
Jeff Davis <davis@keats.ca.uky.edu> 
Coach of the Fighting Lazars
Member of the Chelsea Clinton Fan Club  
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From: jpenovic@wizard.Berkeley.EDU (Jan Penovich)
Subject: Re: favorite musicals
Reply-To: jpenovic@encore.com
Organization: Encore Computer Corp., Fort Lauderdale FL
Distribution: rec
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 17:21:50 GMT

> MBB>I'll second Jeff Davis's vote on _Singin' in the Rain_, probably
> MBB>the best musical of all time, and certainly the funniest. For
> 

  I have always loved movie musicals (broadway musicals too).
  Some of my favorites (in no particular order):

   Singin' in the Rain (my six year old daughter loves this
                        movie.  Especially Donald O'Connor. she 
			wants us to call her Cosmo.)
   1776
   Kiss Me Kate
   Yankee Doodle Dandy
   Footlight Parade
   42nd Street
   West Side Story
   Gay Divorcee
   Hello Dolly
   Top Hat
   On the Town
   There's No Business Like Show Business

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From: ferring@ms.uky.edu (William Ferring |  ferring@ms.uky.edu)
Subject: Jurassic Park - Movie Plans
Keywords: Anyone?
Summary: Michael Crichton Movie...Any Info???
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 16:05:30 GMT
Organization: University Of Kentucky, Dept. of Math Sciences

I have recently completed a GREAT book called Jurassic Park by Michael 
Crichton (the author of The Andromeda Strain [and director if I may add])
about genetic reconstruction of dinosaurs from their DNA.  After finishing 
the book, I happened to read an article in Time Magazine about a new species
of Velociraptor (small predator more dangerous than a T. Rex due to its speed)
and the article stated that Stephen Speilburg (sp?) was doing a movie of the
book I had read using examples of this new species of raptor.  Can anyone
send me more information on this movie, please?  Any and all info is welcome
by e-mail from production reports to release date or whatever!  Thanks!

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From: uokmax.ecn.uoknor.e!cockrill@overmind.mind.org
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Movie, _The_Villian_ wanted.
Date: 23 Jul 92 03:28:00 GMT
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
X-mailer: Stadel 3.4a-227
X-Spam-content: irrelevant


Howdy, everyone:

I have been going crazy hunting for an old Kurt Douglas/Arnold Schwarzenegger
movie, _The_Villian_.  (I'm wanting to purchase it.)  I've looked in all the
video stores in my area, and have even consulted "the book" at Blockbuster.
(_The_Villian_ isn't even listed in the Blockbuster video book.)  Does anyone
know where I can purchase the video?  Do mail order video sources exist where
one doesn't have to be a member to purchase the tapes?  Thanks.

--Jeremy Cockrill
  (University of Oklahoma)

p.s.  Yes, I know that it is a stupid movie.  But I'm a big Arnold and Kurt
      fan.  (And anyway, it's a _funny_ stupid movie.)
From: cherniac@bbn.com (Natasha Cherniack)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Favorite musicals
Date: 23 Jul 92 14:14:19 GMT
Organization: BBN Systems and Technology, Inc.


My personal favorite is 'It's Always Fair Whether' with Gene Kelley, Bob 
Daisley and Cyd Charisse.  The songs are funny,  Gene (as always) is a marvel
to watch when he dances (He tap dances on roller skates, tap dances with metal
garbage can lids on his feet..) and for any of you leg lovers, Cyd Charisse has
got great ones in her song Baby, You Knock Me Out.

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From: dfk0@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (David F. Keppel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: Dr. Strangelove - last line ???
Date: 21 Jul 92 04:01:44 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <110158@muvms3.bitnet>, rcbi27@muvms3.bitnet (DBRUM) writes:
>In article <16JUL199215540594@portal.lasc.lockheed.com>, le01167@portal.lasc.lo
ckheed.com (Ron Nadel (x2025)) writes:
>
>> He screams out as he stands up out of his wheel chair:
>>
>> "Mein Fuhrer!  I can walk!"
>
>Yeah. First he says "Wait--I have a plan..." then stands up etc.

 Great movie!!!

 For the ending I got the dialog, but I cant figure out exactly what
 the Soviet Ambassador is operating when he goes off to the side. Is
 this some kind of transmitter or a detonator? Is he helping blow up the
 world right from the War-room?

 Another trivial note: The B-52 that drops the bombs had something inscribed
 on the back of each. Something like "Hi Bob!" or something, dont remember
 off hand.  Does anybody know the significance of this?


 "You gentleman cant fight in here! This is the WAR room!! - The President

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From: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.movies
Subject: Re: American cinema (was Re: RASPUTIN)
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:23:42 GMT
Reply-To: gbradley@uks197.Berkeley.EDU (Gary Bradley)

reiher@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Peter Reiher) writes...

[ some very good points deleted...]

> Put another way, if you watched 50 of the best non-English language
> films of the past year, and 100 American films from last year chosen
> more or less randomly, would you not expect the non-American films to
> be better?

   Yes, I see your point, but maybe you missed mine. Given the figures
you guess above (i'd say 2 years, not one incidently), I would forcast
that out of the 50 non-English films, I would say 10 are excellent, 10
are good, 20 are mediocre and 10 are shit. But of the 100 US films I
would forcast 10 are excellent, 10 are good, 10 are mediocre and 70 are
shit!! This is of course very subjective.
   Incidently, in Glasgow in any one year, the number of non-English
films to the number of English films playing will probably be about
45-55. What would be the equivalent ratio for a US city near you??

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