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From: nrh@philabs.philips.com (Nikolaus R. Haus)
Subject: Re: Pro Audio Spectrum FAQL ver 1.1
Organization: Philips Laboratories, Briarcliff, New York
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 15:26:47 GMT

In article <1992Nov3.121711.18478@autelca.ascom.ch> nbladt@autelca.ascom.ch (Norbert Bladt) writes:
>Here it comes:
>I am not running MS-DOS on my system, but would like to get a sound board.
>I have a driver for the SB Pro. Although I would like to get a PAS-16 basic
>(without the SCSI stuff but incl. the MIDI adaptor).
>I have read that the compatibility of the PAS-16 to other sound boards is
>done with adding TSR's to MS-DOS which I can't, obviously, use.
>So, my question is:
>	Is it really (hardware) compatible with the SB or SB Pro ?

There it goes:
Yes, the PAS 16 is really hardware compatible with SB (I dunno about pro).
In fact, it is basically two soundcards in one: a PAS and a SB. Unfortunately,
if all you ever use is the SB hardware, all you ever get is SB quality,
and you might as well just get a SB in the first place.

-nikkin

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 send our dogs - wild sea and wet forest and eyes and teeth ..."
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: pjb@cci632.cci.com (Phil Busardo)
Subject: Re: Great MIDI!
Organization: [Computer Consoles, Inc., Rochester, NY
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:04:36 GMT

In article <Nov12.191721.93789@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> ternlund@CS.ColoState.EDU (John Ternlund) writes:
>
>  Does anyone use midi with their PAS 16 sound card?  Does it work?
>Where did you get the additional midi connectors?  I believe the midi
>connector is a DIN 5 plug, and the PAS 16 has no such plug on the back.
>Any info.-- would be great.
>
Yup, I just got my Midimate.  You can get one through Computability at
1-800-554-9950 for $60.00.  The Midimate turns the joystick port into 
a midi connection box.  Let me see if I remember, I think it has two outs
one in and one through (don't quote me, I'm still playing with it!).
It works great.  I was able to record and playback midi through my keyboard
and drum machine.  The sequencer is pretty good to.  By the way, it is
the same one that is supplied with the Sound Blaster card by Voyetra
Technologies.  I'd like to know what your using it for.

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ismith@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Chris Smith)
Subject: Voice samples in Mods
Keywords: PAS-16
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 19:37:38 GMT

 Does anyone know if it is possible to take voice samples from .wav of .voc
files and convert them to .mod sample format. I would like to be ale to
create my own voice samples, but as of right now, Im stuck to using
preexisting ones.

Or better yet is there some other way ove creating .mod format samples?

Chris

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From: markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca (MARC PAULIN)
Subject: --* GUS OWNERS *--
Organization: Universite de Moncton
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:13:32 GMT

Hi,

	Check in alt.binaries.sound.misc (I think) for a collection of 4 MID 
files for your Gravis UltraSound.

                                         ____
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            /' )' )' )                |   |   |           
              /  /  /                 | (_|__/         \   
             /     /  __. .__    ___  |   |  __.  . .   \  .   ___ 
            /     (__(_/|__) )__/(__   \_/__(_/|__)\_)__/\__)__) <_ 
                    Markus on QuartzPARADISE and AfterFive
+---------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+
|       markus@clement.info.umoncton.ca       | "My son, ask for thyself    |
| For Talk:  8900795@clement.info.umoncton.ca |  another kingdom.  For that |
|---------------------------------------------+  which I leave is too small |
| When all else fails,  read the instructions |  for thee" - King Philippe  |
+---------------------------------------------+-----------------------------+
From: asexual@gate.ucsb.edu (Witteles;Todd;B;;;COMS;Undergraduate;941231;920108;1000)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Where can I get .VOC files?
Date: 7 Nov 92 00:23:28 GMT


Does anyone know exactly where I can find a whole slew of
".VOC" digitized sound bytes which I can download?  If
you know of any BBS's (in any city) or ftp cites which have
'em, let me know!

Thanks

asexual@citron.ucsb.edu
Todd Witteles
From: Erick_Bergquist@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US (Erick Bergquist)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: WinMOD and MED??
Date: 5 Nov 92 03:38:40 GMT
Organization: Electric Dreams: The Next Generation BBS

Hi,
 
  Is there a newer version of WinMOD out? I saw a message somewhere about a
WinMOD Pro???? 

Also, is there a program for DOS yet that plays the newer MED modules? Or a
Converter for them to either STM or MOD?

-Erick

BTW, Whats the latest on ModEdit 3.0?

-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
From: dcole@ua.d.umn.edu (david cole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Roland MT32 and Windows
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:17:13 GMT
Organization: University of Minnesota, Duluth
NNTP-Posting-Host: ua.d.umn.edu

In article <BxLvM7.6sn@fig.citib.com> scw@fig.citib.com (Steven C. Wolfe) writes:
>
>Hi:
>
>Does anyone out there know exactly what I have to do to get the MT32 to work
>properly with windows, the midi mappings needed, etc... I have been unable
>to get it to work with windows (3.1), yet it works fine outside of windows.
>
>I'm sure its something simple, if someone could email me the settings, I
>would appreciate it.

>SCWolfe


I had no trouble with the LAPC-1, and it should be the same with the MT32.  I
just used the Windows Midimapper, and set it up with the LAPC map.  It was
all supplied with Windows, ready to go -- I didn't have to change a thing.  

Now when I play a General Midi file, I play it through the midimapper and
that converts it to LAPC/MT32 settings.  But if the midi file is already
written for the MT32, I use the Roland driver that came with Windows.  Both
have worked fine.

You may need to go into Control Panel and select Midi device drivers to set
it up right.  It wasn't clear to me from your post just what kind of midi
port you are using....


Cheers,

Dave
dcole@ua.d.umn.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ryals@seq.uncwil.edu (Robert Ryals)
Subject: disney sound source windows drivers
Organization: Univ. of North Carolina @ Wilmington
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 22:23:20 GMT


Can anyone tell me where I can find the Windows 3.1 drivers for the Disney Sound
Source card ????

Robert Ryals
ryals@seq.uncwil.edu

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: brandon@unislc.uucp (Brandon Ausman)
Subject: Looking for SCC-1 experiences
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 00:29:11 GMT

s the subject line says, I'm looking for people's experience with the Roland
SCC-1 (for those of you who don't know, it's basically a Sound Canvas on a
card, with a PC MIDI interface thrown in).  I'm looking at buying myself one
for Christmas.  I would be interested in any advice, comments, etc. about the
card as well as these specifics:

   - I have a friend with a Sound Canvas, and love the box, but how does
     the SCC-1 compare?  Any noise from the PC?  

   - Have you had any specific software problems or have a package that works
     especially well with the card?

   - I can get it from Leigh's for $369 - is there anywhere cheaper?


Once again, whatever you have to say I will welcome (as long as it's relevant)
and PLEASE -- don't tell me to buy a Gravis card.  I'm on the mailing list,
and will, eventually, buy one, but I'm not interested with the problems 
associated with a new piece of hardware (vendor support, early bugs, etc).

Thanks,

      Brandon

      .sig is burning in .hell

Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: albertd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (David Albert)
Subject: help starting MODEDIT 3.0
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Distribution: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 05:44:42 GMT

I just got my copy of modedit301.lzh, but I'm having problems
uncrunching it.  I'm using LHA v2.13 to extract the files, but 
it gives me a 'broken archive' message at the end of house_of.mod,
before it starts modedit.exe.  

I also have moded300.lzh, which goes through the complete decompression
of modedit.exe before giving me a CRC error on modedit.exe.  LHA then gives
me a broken archive message as it quits.  If I continue and type
'modedit', my computer locks up. 

Can anyone tell me what is wrong in this situation?  Thanks.

Dave
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.music,alt.binaries.sounds.d,alt.sb.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: dp35@mc1adm.UWaterloo.ca (Greg Moore)
Subject: FORSALE: Roland LAPC1 w/ Cakewalk
Organization: University of Waterloo
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 20:46:56 GMT

For sale:

Roland LAPC 1 MIDI music card w/ Cakewalk 4.0

Great card with lots of game support.

$500 (Can) + shipping.
($400 US) 

What I would really like to do is trade this for a v32bis Dual Standard.
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: thail@seas.gwu.edu (Samuel R. Posten)
Subject: Re: Help for MOD files
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 03:38:50 GMT


WRONG!!!!!!!

Thanks to mr. Joshua jenson, I have in my possetion two shareware programs
that edit mod files on the bm, one called Whacker tracker, which has less
features crippled, and the other is called the digi studio pc, made by the
space pigs and now distributed by covox.  I, a musicly untalented person,
have created some pretty cool mods on my pc by using samples from many
mods and "jamming".  If there is enough interest, I'll upload the whacker
tracker to wuarchive, and please, please don't send me mail asking me to
uuencode it to you, since I have limited disk space.  Seeya,

Sam

BTW  Thanks josh, haven't used the assembly yet!

Also Norman Lin:  still waiting for Modedit 3!!!!!!Q
From: ab4@doc.ic.ac.uk (Abbasali Bandali)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: SBPro and After Dark For Windows -------- PROBLEMS !!!!!
Date: 11 Nov 92 13:31:49 GMT
Organization: Department of Computing, Imperial College, University of London, UK.
NNTP-Posting-Host: oak49.doc.ic.ac.uk


I have the SounBlasterPro card installed in my 386SX. It works with Wolf3D and
other games. But I tried installing through Win 3.1 and it worked (I THINK !!!!)

The problem comes when I select 'SBPro' through AfterDark. It says 

		'Multimedia Extensions Connected - Remove them before 
		 choosing SBPro'

Now ....... I AM REALLY STUCK !!!!! Coz I aint got a clue where they come from !!

Please help ...... e-mail preffered ....  ab4@doc.ic.ac.uk

Cheers .... Abbas.

Keywords:
From: davecole@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (David Cole)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: WaveBlaster   (was: PAS or GRAVIS)
Date: 12 Nov 92 00:24:11 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Nov12.002411.10703
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston Illinois.

In article <c60a-lj.721510036@danube.Berkeley.EDU> c60a-lj@danube.Berkeley.EDU (LAB ASSISTANT) writes:
>
>SB compatible card and a 16 bit card on one motherboard.  The question is, 
>is the PAS 16 SB pro compatible, should I wait and buy a SB 16, Is there
>software that explicitly supports the PAS 16, or should I just wait and
>buy a damn GRAVIS!
>
>Also, anyone know what a WAVE Blaster is?
>	

I hate to advise anyone to wait for what may never happen or what may turn out
to be a great disappointment, BUT the Wave Blaster makes the SB16 look
especially interested:


Info: Creative Labs has announced that teh SB16 will have support for a
daughtercard (i.e. a little card that plugs into the SB16 board) that will
give the SB16 wavetable synthesis, like the Roland and Multisound cards.
That little daughter card is the "Wave Blaster".


Rumor: The Wave Blaster has the same EMU (American synthesizer manufacturer)
chips that are on the Turtle Beach Multisound card.

Cole's speculation:  That would make sense, because early this year I saw an
announcement from EMU saying their chipset was available to manufacturers for
$75 in large quantity, OR they would provide a complete daughtercard for $200.
That was quite a while ago, and I expect both prices are down.  The announced
list of the WaveBlaster is $349, as I remember, so it could easily be either
of these. The EMU chips provide very high quality wave samples.

Cole's further speculation: if the SB16 provides support for a daughter card,
it should be possible for Creative (or other sources) to supply additional
cards, including sampler cards that store samples is RAM instead or or as well
as ROM, This would match or exceed the capabilities of the Gravis, with all
the advantages of true SB compatibility.

The folks at MediaVision are no slouches, so they may well top the SB16 (ain't
competition great?), but the SB16 looks great just because of the WaveBlaster
daughtercard capability.

Cheers,

Dave
From: jms20@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Sully)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: PAS-16 interupt jumper settings???
Date: 11 Nov 1992 18:44:38 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: jms20@po.CWRU.Edu (John M. Sully)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Could some kind soul please tell me how to change the IRQ
jumper settings on the PAS-16.  The default setting (IRQ-5)
is conficting with a network card and I want to move it, but
I can't find any documentation in the manual about the 
settings.  Basically, I need to know which pin combos = which
IRQ.

Thanks,
John
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From: jl52800@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Incredible Mr.Wong)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: HELP: Sample conversion
Date: 13 Nov 92 00:27:45 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Hello. I need a little help on where I can find a program. Someone told me 
that they saw a program somewhere that will convert .wav or .voc to samples
that can be used in Modedit. Is there such thing? If there is, where can I 
find it? The only way I can create my own samples right now is to use a 
program called Scopetrax. I either record or load a .voc, then I have to use
the Amigafy option in the program. This is a pain, and I'd rather have a
program of some sort convert it for me. Thanks in advance.
From: kj@solbourne.com (Ken Sullivan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: Unreal demo
Date: 12 Nov 1992 16:49:19 -0700
Organization: Solbourne Computer, Inc., Longmont, CO  USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: klondike.solbourne.com

I downloaded the Unreal Demo, put it on my PC (Gateway 2K, 486/33 16MB w/ SBPro)
It ran great the first 2-3 times. Then then 4th time I ran it, it got 
to the the World Vision stage, My screen went black, and 2 little red eyes
showed up in the upper left quadrant.  After that I had problems with all of
my graphics programs.  I immediately erased Unreal and restored from a complete
backup from a month earlier.  

THe demo was really neat, I found that the Vivid demo was of the same caliber.
With so many people remarking that the Unreal demo won't run or hangs their
system, added to my own experience, I begin to wonder.  BTW I scanned my system
for viruses using an older version of WinScan and couldn't find any.  I erased
alot of valuable stuff which I miss, such is life with the internet.
I am not making any claims that the Unreal Demo has a bug or virus, but it was
the last thing I unzipped and also what I was running when those little
demon eyes peered out of the darkness.  Who knows????

KJ Sullivan
all the usual disclaimers...
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: qb7g6@fel.tno.nl (Maarten Landzaat)
Subject: Which MIDI card to buy for a 286/DOS box?
Organization: TNO Physics and Electronics Laboratory
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 12:13:29 GMT


I heard rumors that some are bad, like the soundblaster.
Can you recommend any cards?

I believe I saw a list of all available cards somewhere on the net. 
If some kind soul has this list somewhere around, would he please send
it to me? 

Thanks in advance!
Any reaction is appreciated.
Bye,
-- 
Maarten J. Landzaat (analyst/programmer, bass player, Atari/midi freak)
BSO/Aerospace & Systems			Mail: Spuistraat 97
Email: maarten.landzaat@fel.tno.nl	      1012 SV  Amsterdam
Phone: +31 20 6266098			      The Netherlands
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BSO/Aerospace & Systems			Mail: Spuistraat 97
Email: maarten.landzaat@fel.tno.nl	      1012 SV  Amsterdam
Phone: +31 20 6266098			      The Netherlands
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: ilan@seas.gwu.edu (Ilan Berkner)
Subject: Re: PAS16 and my modem!!
Organization: George Washington University
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 00:24:04 GMT

In article <1992Nov6.135840.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> jybarb01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>Every thing is fine when I REM out the driver for the sound card.  
>---IRQ/DMA are set at 3

Ho hum.  This one should have been obvious.

If you set the PAS board for IRQ 3, then you're going to conflict with
COM2.  Let me guess, your modem is COM2, right?
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: s1070627@giaec.cc.monash.edu.au (Brett Paterson)
Subject: Re: Sound files
Organization: Monash University, Melb., Australia.
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 02:05:01 GMT

mark@mozart.demon.co.uk (Mark Whalley) writes:

>I know this must be a FAQ, so forgive me.

>Were on the NET can I find sound samples, midi, CMF, etc files. plus
>info about MIDI file formats, etc. etc. What's the best source?

>I've only just got my SB Pro card, and wish to give it a good thumping!


If you wish to give it a good thumping, then use MOD's, not CMF or MIDI!

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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: scottr@nosc.mil (Randall H. Scott)
Subject: PAS and WINDOWS SMARTDRV problems
Organization: Naval Ocean Systems Center, San Diego
Distribution: all
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 15:07:28 GMT

I seem to be having audio problems running windows 3.1 in enhanced
mode with smartdrv enabled.  I get a high pitched squeal.  No problems
with windows in real mode or running in any windows modes with smartdrv
disabled.  My hardware is a 386-25 with PAS Plus board.  Any related
problems or cures please post on this net.
			Thanks, Randy Scott
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard,comp.music,alt.binaries.sounds.d,alt.sb.programmer,comp.sys.ibm.pc
From: jeremiah@cuug.ab.ca (Jerry Jeremiah 290-8941)
Subject: Re: Looking for interesting scope program
Organization: Calgary UNIX Users' Group
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 09:16:29 GMT

In article <Erick_Bergquist.03tw@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US> Erick_Bergquist@edtng.Kenosha.WI.US (Erick Bergquist) writes:
>Jake@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu writes:
>
>> I have been looking for an interesting oscilliscope program or any other 
>> type of program that would graphically interpret audio input information 
>> from a sound blaster or SBPro.  
> 
>There is one called ScopeTrax (scoptrax.zip/arj) that is good. It views any
>file in Unsigned / RAW Format and plays it. You can save it to a .VOC or
>RAW format from the program. You can add effects, edit, save a block of the
>sound, etc.. I just picked this up a few days ago on a local BBS. It is
>Freeware. And to date, Its the best Sound Editor/Converter program I have
>found. EGA/VGA, Mouse also. And you have your scopes also. Plus it has this
>one feature I lik called "Amigafy". I save them as RAW and then use a
>Program called SNDCONV.EXE to convert it to a .WAV file. 
>
>Later.
>-Erick
>
>-- Via DLG Pro v0.992
>

i use wham (wham.zip)  it will play and convert eight formats (wav, raw,
au, voc...)  Has an oscilloscope display (if I know what you were thinking of)
it is a windows program and shareware.  if you have trouble finding it ask on
alt.binaries.sounds.misc.

>>Jerry
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: albertd@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (David Albert)
Subject: Re: Help for MOD files
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 18:01:30 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.144612.25917@wam.umd.edu> macross@wam.umd.edu (Steve Ji-Chang Hong) writes:
>Hi,
>	Can anyone tell me where I can ftp some .MOD sound files?
>	Thanks
>-Steve
>

Also, does anyone know how .MOD files are created and/or edited?  What about 
an editing program?  I heard the names WinMod and WinMod Pro, but know 
absolutely nothing about either one. 

I have a pas16, which comes with several .MOD files and a player called
TrackBlaster Pro, but I am interested in creating my own compositions using
the .MOD instruments and format.

ANY information or discussion would be welcome.  Thanks.

Dave  (.sig coming soon)
 
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: harrison@lclark.edu (Mark Harrison)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
Subject: Re: MULTISOUND-TURTLE BEACH SYSTEMS
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:19:14 GMT
Article-I.D.: lclark.1992Nov11.181914.4208
Organization: Lewis & Clark College, Portland OR

In article <bheagney.0ecp@amiganet.chi.il.us> bheagney@amiganet.chi.il.us (Brian Heagney) writes:
>For all of you out there, here is some NEW information:
>
>TurtleBeach Systems, the maker of "MULTISOUND" soundcard for the IBM had
>recently dropped their list price from $999 to $599.  
>
>Computability "USED TO" sell the card for $719, yet they just had a major price
>cut due to the reduction of the list price.
>
>The card is now $ 5 7 9 . 0 0 ! ! !

I was in a local electronics store yesterday (Incredible Universe for
people in the Oregon area) and they had the multisound for $572.  I you
want one, you'd better go now.  They only appeared to have one left.

-- 
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harrison@sun.lclark.edu |   Our great computers fill the hallowed halls."
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.ibm.pc.soundcard
From: dedmunds@selkirk.sfu.ca (Darran Edmundson)
Subject: Re: PAS or GRAVIS
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 02:41:03 GMT

c60a-lj@danube.Berkeley.EDU (LAB ASSISTANT) writes:

>Well, it looks like its time to trade in the old ThunderBoard and move up
>to a 16 bit card.  Now the question is, do I want to go with a well
>established card like the PAS 16, or go with the new GRAVIS.  

Go and listen to the GUS and PAS16 in a store.  Flame away but I
really think there is no comparison (and yes, I have listened to both).
Support is the big question.

-- 

Darran Edmundson
darran@chaos.phys.sfu.ca