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From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman's death. True cost?
Date: 22 Nov 92 17:30:36
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: dani@netcom.com's message of 22 Nov 92 22:09:49 GMT

>>>>> On 22 Nov 92 22:09:49 GMT, dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig) said:

dani> zlg1409@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Zhenhai Li ):
>Personally, with the abysmial storyline, I normally wouldn't bother.
>But like everyone else am getting it for future value...
>Do you think the price will actually go up?

dani> Superman #75 has the potential for spectacular price increases,
dani> especially if inflation is high enough.  It may be worth
dani> hundreds of dollars one day.  In fact, I am so sure of this that
dani> I guarantee to buy any issues of Superman #75 you can find me
dani> for their *full* resale value (less shipping), up to a maximum
dani> of **$1000** each!  So if you see a copy selling for a hundred
dani> dollars and more, you might still think about buying it.  (This
dani> comic has the potential to be the next Stupendous Man #1! :)

Ya maybe in a 100 years.... Something like Tick #1 1st printing will
have more potential, of being worth big buck, just becaues it wasn't a
big book with mass marketing when it came out. Books like the Tick,
and TMNT got there popularity after there release, not before. The
Superman thing was hyped 4 month's ago. Stuff that people think will
be big bucks usually aren't becaues they make so many of them. It's
the things that never get noticed at first that seem to be the money
makers. I mean there are over 3.5 million Superman 75's out there. A
print run of that size will seriously hurt the "long time value".
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From: aa396@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill Henley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: I'm not buying Superman #75!
Date: 19 Nov 1992 01:08:22 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: thor.ins.cwru.edu


Judging by the publcity, I may be the only comics fan in America
who isn't, but I'm not.  I buy comics for enjoyment of quality
story and art and solid storytelling, not to be jerked around
by the phony "death" of a character everyone knows will be back
(in a way, all this grief and mourning for Superman in the comic
is a cruel mockery of the feelings of people who have lost a real
person to death and know that he/she will never, ever, come back).
If I bought this comic, I would feel that I had been taken in by
a cheap publicity stunt.  As for any supposed "investment value"
of this comic, investment value is mainly a function of rarity;
how is a comic book which sells millions of copies which are all
carefully saved, ever going to become rare?

The Old Comic Curmudgeon --
-- 
Bill Henley, Assistant Sysop, Cleveland Free-Net Science Fiction
& Fantasy SIG (aa396)
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman: here's what we do...
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:43:18
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
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In-reply-to: ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu's message of Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:46:31 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:46:31 GMT, ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (kristoff) said:

ctatro> DC COMICS MUST BE STOPPED!!

ctatro> Okay, gang, here's the plan...

ctatro> It's too late to do anything about the droves and droves of
ctatro> copies of Superman 75 that have been sold (yes, I admit my
ctatro> guilt in this), *but* it's not too late to do something about
ctatro> his revival.

ctatro> I am calling on EVERYONE who reads RACM to swear a solemn oath
ctatro> to REFUSE TO BUY THE RESSURECTION ISSUE!! In fact, force your
ctatro> friends to swear this too. And convince your local store to
ctatro> only order a normal number of copies. Now, most will not want
ctatro> to do this, as it will mean profit loss. But maybe SOME will
ctatro> realize that these things will be in the "Fifty Cent Bargain
ctatro> Bin" before the year's out (along with Superman 75). Maybe we
ctatro> can even get some media coverage on this....The press seems
ctatro> rather eager to cover Superman stuff these days.

Hey if you don't want to buy it fine, but I have been a regular
Superman reader since he got re-done. I'm not about to stop reading
them now. Yes, I know it's nothing more than a money maker, but
Superman is one of my favorite DC titles. Besides, the only extra
money I spent was the extra $1 for the bagged #75. 

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 Scott Streeter                             Visit the Star Wars Archive at
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From: c60b-3fe@e260-3f.berkeley.edu (Coffee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: DC: Superman's death coverage
Date: 20 Nov 1992 23:48:06 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: na
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In article <1992Nov20.215036.4214@news2.cis.umn.edu> lsmith@atto.cs.umn.edu (Lance "Squiddie" Smith) writes:
>
>Where was I? Standing around a comic shop waiting for a delayed shipment
>of the damned comic book.

Hey! Me too.  It took to long to show so I ended up leaving with Chroma-Tick
#4 and Grendel: WC #1.  Based on what I've been reading about the death, 
seems like I left with the better bargain.  :)
Today I think i'm gonna go back and ask if there are any damaged superman
#75 issues I can get for under cover.  I don't really want to buy it, but
I want to read it.

Mikel B.
-- 
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   "So he takes his bowling ball and throws it in the sink!"
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From: balbes@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Which type oPre-bagged comics(Was:Re:Superman is in the bag... sort of)
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:14:53 EST

In article <92327.200856GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>, <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> Bagging non-pre-bagged comics?
> I think the gist was that the plastic used in polybagging comics issues by
> different companies is a cheaper kind than the standard 100-bag packs that
> are sold at comic stores.  I have read at one point that even these standard-
> issue bags will accelerate deterioration of the comic, but this was from some
> some company selling mylars or something at a special price.  I don't think we
> can give much credence to that.  I really don't know the long-term effects of,
> say, ComiCovers (which I buy) on comics.  Geez, I always thought that protected
> the comic!  After all, that's what I bought them for...  I can't think of the
> horror-filled day it would be unbagging my umpteen boxes worth of comics!
> Please, somebody, ease my pain and tell me that those "100% virgin
> polyethylene bags are OK!!                 -----Eric Sansoni


I recently went through my ~10,000 comic book collection which
are bagged in various types of bags for anywhere up to about 10 years.
I noticed no detioration in any comic.  The mints are still mint
and the goods are still good (sigh, guess they'll never get better).
The only age related effect I found was some yellowing of the backing
boards.  But this did not affect the comic.
In conclusion, I find no evidence that the type of bag matters
in storing the comics.

Mark Balbes
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Re: A public apology
Keywords: It's an apology
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:20:32 GMT

mikecap@wpi.WPI.EDU (Michael Vince Caprio Jr):
>I hereby publicly apologize to Mr. Cowling... Apparently, Mr. Cowling did
>not like my humorous criticism, and decided to engage in his own slurring...
>Mr. Cowling, what you offer is nothing less than censorship...

Michael, you may not realize this, but that's not an apology.  An
apology has the form "I'm sorry I did X", not "I'm sorry I did X
even though Y is a rat and it served him right and I was right
in doing so."  Just so's you'll know for next time.

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

   God helpe the man so wrapt in Errours endless traine  -- Edmund Spenser
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From: ctatro@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (kristoff)
Subject: More Superramblings..
Organization: The Ohio State University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:56:33 GMT

Wait, "Here lies the Earth's Greatest Hero"?

Did I miss the issue where Blue Devil died? >:-]

     kristoff

ps they couldn't make a law forbidding anyone under 15 from buying comics - 
Marvel, Dc and Image would all go out of business in a week!!  They should just
keep kids from *commenting* on the books!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: rickard@anasazi.com (Ronald J. Rickard Jr)
Subject: Re: PREVIEWS II #11
Organization: Anasazi, Inc.  Phoenix, Arizona USA
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 09:34:25 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.030001.2021@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> sbrown@nyx.cs.du.edu (Simon Brown) writes:
>
>   On page 17, there is an avertisement on Comic Shop News' Image special
>   issue : IMAGE IN '93.  And it seems that Image will be doing x-overs
>   with DC.

Rumor has it that Image is no longer being published (?) by Malibu, but 
that DC will be taking up the helm.  Strange, but a much needed boost
for DC considering thier sliding sales ...

This information came from the folks at Phoenix's largest (at least that
is what they say) comic shop.  Could just be rumor.

					Ron


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From: zonker@splinter.coe.northeastern.edu (Woman On the Verge)
Subject: Re: Strange Things Afoot in Marvel about Supes
Organization: College of Engineering, Northeastern University
	<1992Nov20.052636.2764@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
	<1992Nov20.055936.17757@ncsu.edu>
	<By0uKr.J5F@constellation.ecn.uoknor.edu>
	<Nov.20.14.14.00.1992.1991@dorm.rutgers.edu> <By1BMD.8pJ@apollo.hp.com>
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:51:48 GMT

maybe superman could jump to a small press and become an Elemental...

:-)
--regis
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:46:43 EST
From: <JMC162@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: I'm not buying Superman #75!
 <1ef5cdINNnn3@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu> <lgn91nINN4m1@exodus.Eng.Sun.COM>

I think that the problem that everyone is facing here is the fact that
everyone believes that Superman should be able to beat anybody in a fight.
I happen to believe that there are quite a few hereoes that could beat Supes
easilly.  Hal Jordan and Valor come to mind right away, but given a chance
J'onn or Wally West (I know that this is stretching it) have a chance in a
fight with the big guy.  The new Superman was vulnerable, much more than any
GL.  People who say that this or that hero could beat Doomsday are probably
right, but they weren't there.  I think that this whole "death" storyline
may be a way of letting people know that everyone in the universe is
vulnerable.  Even Superman.  So when he comes back, maybe he will take every
villian more seriously.

Just my opinion.

Joe C.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: richgu@microsoft.com (Richard Guion)
Subject: Re: "Last" Superman stories
Date: 20 Nov 92 17:55:33 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

You mentioned my favorite Superman story ever, the Alan Moore 2-parter
that occurred in the pre-Byrne issues of Action Comics and Superman.  I loved
that story.

I bought Superman #75 and was totally disgusted with it.  It was the cheapest
exploitation book I've ever read.  I felt no emotion at all for any of the
characters in the story, as someone else mentions Jimmy Olsen calleously
snaps a picture of Superman dies.  I also felt that telling the story in 
1-panel per page was cheap and a way to make the story more accessible to
people who don't read comics normally.  I feel sorry for all the bozos who
haven't read comics in years coming in and picking this up and thinking that
this is the one of the better comics--it isn't!  What's really unfortunate
is that the Superman titles are generally better written than most superhero
fare, but for the Doomsday story they seemed to have dropped their standards.

I felt much more broken up over Superman I's death in Crisin on Infinite
Earths #12.  I felt that was really a heroic end to a fine character.  It
was a great way to go.  By contrast, I don't even understand how Superman
could die in Superman #75.  Sure, he had some cuts/bruises/broken ribs, but
I didn't see any mortal wounds.  I'm sorry, I just don't think Doomsday was
worthy of being the one who killed Superman.  What a loser.

That's my two-cents.

Rich

In article <1eh7uuINN12p@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa396@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill Henley) writes:
>
>A couple of people responding to my original post on "I'm not
>buying Superman #75" have pointed out that two previous "end of
>Superman" type stories -- Jerry Siegel & Curt Swan's "Death of
>Superman" Imaginary Story in SUPERMAN #149 (reprinted in GREATEST
>SUPE STORIES EVER TOLD) and Alan Moore's "Whatever Happened to
>the Man of Tomorrow" in the last pre-Byrne issues of SUPERMAN
>and ACTION-- are considered by many to be classics.  Now that
>I think of it, I agree!  The Moore story is a favorite of mine,
>and the Siegel is also touching and well done for its period.
>So perhaps I overstated my case in suggesting that a "death of
>Superman" story HAS to be a cheap exploitation.
>
>Note, however, that in neither of those cases did DC try to
>fool anyone into thinking that Supes was REALLY going to stay
>dead; the Siegel story was a self-proclaimed "Imaginary Story"
>and it was well known that the Moore story would be followed
>by Byrne's restart of the Superman series.
>
>The Old Comic Curmudgeon,
>-- 
>Bill Henley, Assistant Sysop, Cleveland Free-Net Science Fiction
>& Fantasy SIG (aa396)
Organization: Penn State Anarchists
X-Subliminal-Message: You will never graduate.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 03:28:33 EST
From: Steve Murray <SXM101@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: -I KNOW WHERE GOTHAM CITY IS--
 <faber.721674036@cs.wisc.edu> <_-s18l_@rpi.edu>
 <maguire-131192163804@128.149.100.151>

In article <maguire-131192163804@128.149.100.151>, maguire@zappa.jpl.nasa.gov
(Kevin Maguire) says:
>
>As I recall, Metropolis was on the East Coast, between Philadelphia and
>Washington, DC, probably in Delaware, maybe in southern New Jersey.
>Gotham appeared to be on the Delaware River upstream from Philadelphia,
>up towards Pittsburgh.  Note that this would allow a bridge from Gotham
>to New Jersey, just the southern part of NJ, not the part just south of
>NYC.

Well, for future reference, Southern New Jersey is southeast of Philly,
and Washington DC is southwest.  Baltimore lies directly between them,
however.  And Pittsburgh is on the far *west* side of Pennsylvania.
A better guess for Gotham would be Trenton, N.J., or maybe Allentown.
Having been in both, I would say Trenton is *definitely* closer to
the way Gotham is usually portrayed (but any city in NJ would
probably do :-).
--
Steve Murray  |  SXM101@psuvm.psu.edu  |  murr@dev-null.phys.psu.edu
Look at me can't you see / All I really want to be
Is free from a world / That hurt me - RHCP
Disclaimer: I don't speak for PSU or the CAC and they don't speak for me
From: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: The writer, Harlan Ellison
Date: 22 Nov 1992 01:44:54 GMT
Organization: The Sinister Icy Black Hand of Death Club
Reply-To: goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb)
NNTP-Posting-Host: earthquake.berkeley.edu
Originator: goldfarb@earthquake.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Nov20.031744.17921@zip.eecs.umich.edu> tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway) writes:
)In article <1992Nov19.174056.8601@pbhyc.PacBell.COM> djdaneh@PacBell.COM (Dan'l DanehyOakes) writes:
)>and there was a "dial-H-for-Hero" comic with a Harlan-designed hero in it.
)
)I believe it was Adventure #479, the first of the Dial H revival (i.e.
)not Robby Reed but Chris'n'Vickie (no relation to the Chris'n'Vickie in
)rec.music.gaffa)). I forget the name of the character (I want to write Silver
)Ghost, but that was the Freedom Fighters villain), but it had the tag caption
)"Created by Harlan Ellison, age 46, Sherman Oaks, CA", moderately amusing
)among all the age 12s in the other captions. 

	Ye gods, I remember buying that comic. It might not have been the
first issue of the revival, but it was early on. The character's name
was the Silver Fog, and he was a villain rather than a hero. He wasn't
really evil, he just had to to steal equipment to stop his powers from
killing him. Fortunately Chris turned into a hero with electrical 
powers and was able to save his life. (God what a useless memory. I
didn't even get to attend the autograph party.)

-- 
   David Goldfarb          | "Bagels can be an enormous force for good or for 
goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu  |  evil. It is up to us to decide how we will use
goldfarb@UCBOCF.BITNET     |  them."    -- Daniel M. Pinkwater
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
From: jcowling@ophelia.UVic.CA (Scowling Jim Cowling)
Subject: New releases:  November 18-20 1992
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, Canada
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 92 02:32:00 GMT


Sorry the list is late, but my newsfeed was down (again).

New stuff released bwteeen November 18 and November 20, 1992 from one
major distributor:

Archie
	Archie 408
	TMNT Adventures 41
	Betty & Veronica Double Digest 36
Dark Horse
	Caravan Kidd 5
	Dark Horse Presents 67
	Hard Looks 5
	New Frontier 2
	Venus Wars 11
	Blanche Goes to New York
	Nexus the Liberator 3
	Thing from Another World: Climate of Fear 3
	Young Indiana Jones Chronicles 8
	Intron Depot 1
DC
	Batman 488
	Batman: The Blue, The Grey, and The Bat
	Batmam: Shadow of the Bat 8
	Black Canary 1
	Black Condor 7
	Demon 31
	Doom Patrol 62
	Green Lantern: Mosaic 8
	Heckler 5
	Hellblazer 61
	Justic League America 70
	New Titans 93
	Robin II: Cry of the Huntress 2
	Shade, the Changing Man 31
	Superman 75
	Valor 3
	Who's Who Update '93 1
Disney
	Cartoon Tales: Belle & The Beast 
	Cartoon Tales: Darkwing Duck Returns
	Uncle Scrooge 275
Eclipse
	Clive Barker's Dread HC
Fleetway
	2000 AD Showcase 6
	666 Mark of the Beast 7
	Cybercrush 13
	Dare the Impossible 10
	Dredd Rules 12
	Judge Dredd Classics 71
	Necropolis 9
	Rogue Trooper 9
	2000 AD 802-805
Harris	
	Vampirella 1
Malibu
	Robotech: Invid War 7
	Protectors 3
Marvel
	Dark Angel 7
	Doom 2099 1
	Fish Police 4
	GI Joe 132
	Hulk 401
	Marvel Age 120
	Marvel Comics Presents 119
	Marvel Tales 269
	Morbius 5
	Nightbreed 23
	Onyx Overlord 4
	Punisher Holiday Special
	Punisher: G-Force
	Quasar 42
	Shields 43
	Slapstick 3
	Spider-Man 30
	Terror Inc 7
	Warlock and the Infinity Watch 12
	Wedding of Dracula
	What If 45
	X-Factor 86
	X-Force/Spider-Man: Sabotage
	X-Men 16
	X-Men Adventures 3
Millenium
	The Mummy 9
Now
	Green Hornet Annual 1
	Kato II 1
	Green Hornet 11
	Twilight Zone 10
Rip-Off
	Post Brothers 28 (yay!)
Slave Labor
	Dr. Radium: Man of Science 1 (double yay!)
Topps
	Dracula 2
Tundra
	Lazarus Churchyard 3
	Legends of Arzarch: Arzach Gallery 6
	TMNT Adventures 3
	TMNT Adventures 4
	White Trash 1
	Alien: The Illustrated Story
Valiant
	Bloodshot 1

Miscellaneous
	Deadline 45
	Viz Annual 1993
	Viz 56
	Rhudiprrt 1
	Comics Buyers Guide 994
	Comics Buyers Guide 1993 Annual
	Comics Areana 5
	Ghost Rider Skull Pin
	Judge Dredd Statue
	Taboo 7
	Marvel Masterpieces Cards
	Doomsday: The Death of Superman Cards
	Mad Magazine Cards Series II

-------
Scowling Jim Cowling
Creative Writing Department, University of Victoria
-------
From: ss@wpi.WPI.EDU (Scott Streeter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Superman funeral on SNL 11/21/92
Date: 23 Nov 92 12:35:28
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute, Worcester, MA 01609-2280
NNTP-Posting-Host: wpi.wpi.edu
In-reply-to: pautler@ils.nwu.edu's message of Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:11:07 GMT

>>>>> On Mon, 23 Nov 1992 15:11:07 GMT, pautler@ils.nwu.edu (David Pautler) said:

pautler> I didn't recognize all the costumes used in the Superman funeral
pautler> segment.  Here are those I did recognize:

pautler> Jimmy Olsen   (Rob Schneider (sp?))
pautler> Lois Lane     (Julia Sweeney)
pautler> Perry White   (Phil Hartman)
pautler> Batman
pautler> Robin         (Chris Rock)
pautler> Aquaman       (Dana Carvey)
pautler> John Stewart  (Tim Meadows (?))
pautler> Flash         (Adam Sandler)
pautler> Spiderman
pautler> Hulk          (Chris Farley)
pautler> Reed Richards (? Davis (I can't believe I can't remember his name))
pautler> Black Lightning (Sinbad)

Wasn't Dana Carvey Batman, and Aquaman was that other short blone guy
from the news reports...
--
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From: wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (August Paul Yang)
Subject: Re: Ghost Rider
Organization: HAC - Johns Hopkins University, Baltimore
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 23:28:20 GMT

In article <84165@ut-emx.uucp> devil@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (The Dark Lord) writes:
>
>Hey, any Ghost Rider (the new one) fans out there? There seem to be 
>very few articles on the demon of vengeance.
                          ^^^^^
ARGH!  HE IS NOT A DEMON!!!!  When Dr. Strange was trying to free his friend
Topaz from the possesion of a obscure demon (which really didn't to much
I might add) he searched out the Ghost Rider to obtain a material component
nessacery to exorcise the demon, demon's flame.  Dr. Strange attempted to
"pluck" some demon flame from the Ghost Rider using an incantation, but when
he got to the "demon" part of the spell the Ghost Rider began writhing in
agony, which should *not* have happened if he was a true demon.

August Paul Yang should really switch to decaf.
wntrmute@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu
From: 128.155.44.15 (Larry Merrill)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Mazzucchelli?
Date: 19 Nov 1992 13:21:51 GMT
Organization: NASA LaRC Graphics
Reply-To: 128.155.44.15 (Larry Merrill)
NNTP-Posting-Host: lmerrill.larc.nasa.gov

Whatever happened to Dave Mazzucchelli? His work on Batman: Year One and the 
"Born Again" arc in Daredevil was outstanding. Just wondering if he is out of 
the comics business or just somewhere I don't know about.

Larry Merrill - Opinions provided are mine all mine. Nobody else should be blamed!
From: morrow@fnalo.fnal.gov (Thou Shalt Not Covet Thy Neighbor's Elmo)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.misc
Subject: Re: Oz Squad panned in Baum Bugle
Date: 17 Nov 92 22:37:16 -0600
Organization: The Pentateuch
NNTP-Posting-Host: fnalo.fnal.gov

moriarty@tc.fluke.COM (The Napoleon of Crime) writes:
> I have to say that I have *not* found OZ SQUAD to be offensive; however:
> 
> 1)  I'm not particularly fond of the original OZ books, much less hold them
>     as some sort of sacred childhood memory.
> 
> 2)  When it comes to adaptive fiction, it's tough to find something I
>     *do* find offensive.

	I have *not* found OZ SQUAD offensive; however,

1)  I do hold the original OZ books up as some sort of sacred childhood
memory.

	My take on them is that the creators obviously know and love OZ as
well, and are simply doing a post-modern revisionist version.  Everything
we recall from the books is implicitly true; it's just that there's been a
lot of other water under the bridge since then.
	Normally I hate revisionism and post-modernism leaves me cold.  OZ
SQUAD seems to have just enough respect for the past that it doesn't
trigger my revulsion.
-- 
"Life is like playing a violin in public and learning the instrument as one    
goes on."--Samuel Butler                                                       
  
elmo (morrow@physics.rice.edu,morrow@fnal.fnal.gov)
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