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From: chenl@cbnewse.cb.att.com (julian.l.chen)
Subject: Re : WIDE NECKed classical guitars.
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 21:24:11 GMT

>Hi,
>I've been playing a steel stringed acoustic for a number of years and I
>want to get a nylon stringed clasical guitar. Besides learning a few
>classical pieces, I intend to pluck a lot, which I enjoy.
>
>I have noticed that generally, concert guitars have a wider neck.
>Could those among you with some experience with concert guitars comment
>on the advantages of a wider necked model? How do slimmer necked
>guitars(also concert) compare?Advice, Comments, Observations?

Classical guitar typically has the neck width (at nut) of 1-15/16" to 2-1/8".
It is wider than most of the steel string guitars. The wider neck makes the
finger-style playing easier but struming more difficult. Since 99% of the
classical playing is finger-style so the wider neck definetely helps the
classical style playing. Also, if you have bigger hands than average does,
you will like to have 2-1/8" neck. Otherwise, you may want to have a neck
on the narrower side.

>I have $ 150 -200 to spend on a classical acoustic. In your opinion,
>what guitars provide the biggest twang for the buck?
>
>Thanks in advance and happy pluckin'!
>
>Prakash Mathew.

$150 - $200 does not buy you a good classical today. In 1979, I bought my
first decent classical guitar, a Matsouka #40 (Japanese) for $300. A guitar
of similar quality will cost you about $800 - $1000 today. From my opinion,
that is about the minimum you should pay for a guitar that you like to enjoy
for your whole life. If you are not willing to commit that much at this
time, at least get a solid top classical such as Yamaha CG150S (~ $300),
Horabe #20 (~ $400), and some Spanish made classicals. However, if you
only want to pay $200, I think Fender FC-100 is one of the best guitars
in that range. Another way to save money is to buy a used one if you know
how to select a classical guitar.

Julian
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Building effects units for guitars
From: Michael.Bremford@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mike Bremford)
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1992 04:04:48 GMT
Organization: NewZnet Support Group, VUW, New Zealand.


I have an old circuit from a 1967 electronics mag on waa pedals. Instead of this
thing they use a lightbulb and a light-dependant resistor. We made these out of
an old film canister - put the light buld in at one end, have the resistor out
the other. DOn't know specifics about voltages, resistors etc, youd have to
check, but this is a good way of avoiding this opto thingy.

	Cheers... Mike
From: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu (Mark Basinski)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: Recomendations for Classical Guitars
Date: 10 Sep 92 19:11:25 GMT
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Distribution: usa
Organization: Univ. of Arizona

In article <1992Sep4.232118.24755@porthos.cc.bellcore.com>,
mtc@iscp.bellcore.com (Ming Chao) wrote:
> .Which artist normally plays which maker's guitar
> (Roussel/Gilbert, Fisk,Isbin/Humphrey, etc.)
> .Who are among the best makers today, US, Spanish, Japanese,...
>  Their prices, waiting list lengths, sound characteristics
> .Where to find guitars from these makers

  The most expensive of the really concert-quality classical guitars being 
built in the US these days are are definitely Gilbert and Humphrey. Be
prepared to wait a long time. While both of those makers build fine
guitars,
I'm not really wild about either of them - I don't like the sound of of
the Humphrey, and while the Gilbert is *really* loud and can get a very
wide range of sound, I find them a bit too dry, plus I got tired of waiting
for one - I got on John's list in 1986, and kept getting put off (if you're
Ben Verdery or David Russell, you can get a guitar in a month, if not maybe
never)...now John's son Bill does most of the building, and while I haven't
seen any of these guitars I haven't heard too much one way or the other if 
they are as good?

  Other makers to keep in mind: Robert Ruck (I just played a fairly new
cedar top Ruck this morning - a really excellent instrument, $3500,
probably
a wait of 2+ years). Michael Thames (I play a Thames spruce top, and his
cedar tops are excellent also - between $3000-3500 wait of 1 year about?)
David Daly isn't as well known, but he makes excellent instruments in the 
2500 range, also Greg Byers (~$3300?)

  My favorite builder in Spain is Francisco Santiago Marin, in Granada. He
is the nephew of Antonio Marin Montero, and his guitars are similar in
sound
and appearance (mostly spruce) but I like them better. I've no idea what
his
prices are, but you can bet it'll be high with the recent plummenting of
the
dollar...  :(    
 
> I heard Sergio Abreu made some excellent guitars, anybody have
> experience with his?

not me...

M

----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Mark Basinski      Internet: basinski@biosci.arizona.edu
From: css1rs@gondor.mcs.surrey.ac.uk (Russell Smithers)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: ESP Guitar
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:06:47 GMT
Organization: University of Surrey, Guildford, England
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I have decided to by an ESP guitar today, and im interested in
comments, and also what sort of things people have done to there
ESP's?
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: jwb@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (john.w.bean)
Subject: Help with Epiphone
Followup-To: None 
Summary: Help with value of Epiphone
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 11:58:28 GMT

I need help finding the value of an Epiphone Guitar.  
It was made in Japan, purchased in appox. 1970 - 1975 sometime
around then. 
The number on the back is SN-1016076. It is a solid body with
pearl frets and light wood grain neck.  It is red/maroon &
cream in color. 4 volume & tone knobs with 1 toggle switch.

It belongs to a good friend of mine and he is thinking of 
selling it (maybe to me if the price is right) and I would
like to give him a fair price for it.  It is in excellent
condition as it has been played very little. Any help on 
this matter will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance for any and all help
jwb
From: mills+@cs.cmu.edu (Michael Mills)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: 79 Fender P-Bass for sale
Date: 7 Sep 92 01:57:53 GMT
Organization: School of Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon

posted for a friend w/o email access; please reply by phone to him...

---
fender 1979 p-bass
mint, new old stock (i.e. purchased last month all-original and unused)
3-tone sunburst, hardshell case

asking $700

enquiries to: (412) 361 6541  (ask for mike)
---


-- 
        m.d.mills		interviewer: what kind of guitars do you play?
 dept.of.computer.science       stevie ray vaughan: they're wood.
carnegie.mellon.university
   pittsburgh.pa.15213
From: harper@godot.think.com (Jim Harper)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: re Jackson Proffesional
Date: 9 Sep 92 11:07:56
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
Distribution: alt
NNTP-Posting-Host: godot.think.com

From what I have heard this is a lower cost version of the 
Jackson USA series. I'm pretty sure it was reviewed in Guitar
Players "under $750 Shootout" This was list price so the actual
price is in the $600's. If you want to know for sure about the
price call a mail order place like Sam Ash 1-800-472-6274.
Personally I think Jackson hasn't made anything that great since
the 80's.

Good Luck
 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: andre@rurutu.wri.com (Andre Kuzniarek)
Subject: Re: Which Fender Strat is best ?
Organization: Wolfram Research, Inc.
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 18:12:58 GMT

My Squier is also Korean, but I bought it about 4 years ago.

AK
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
From: malcolm@wrs.com (Malcolm Humes)
Subject: Re: Musician's tape deck info wanted
Organization: Wind River Systems, Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 06:10:07 GMT

bobg@Pacesetter.COM (Robert N. Girard) writes:
>I'm considering the purchase of a musician's tape deck (i.e., with
>built-in half-speed control and pitch adjustment), and am interested
>in feedback from other netters on the Ibanez Rock & Play vs. the
>Marantz PMD201 Music Study Recorder.  The latter has recording
>capability and, I presume, fundamentally better electronics, but is
>it worth the $150 difference?  Any comments, pro or con, on either
>product, or on any other similar product, would be very much appreciated.

I've seen ads pushing marantz recorders as musicians tools but wasn't 
ever sure if Marantz really intends them or pushes them as such - it mostly 
looked like distributers advertising them as such in music magazines. 

I have a Marantz PMD221 mono deck - it worked fine for a couple of years 
but recently seized up and died and I haven't dealt with it yet. It 
does work nice with the pitch control and half speed features as a tool
for deciphering words and music. I know a guy who uses one to transcribe 
lectures for a living. It also has a handy phone jack input which is
nice for taping phone calls or playing tapes directly into a phone. I'm
not positive the model you mention has this but I think it's the same
and just adds the stereo features. I've found this to be a great tool
for a lot of portable recording, correcting pitch on bad recordings and
for using as a phone interface. But this one just started to stop
on playback and is hosed now. Previously I used to work in A/V and
used these decks a lot, and twice I've seen the cheap plastic buttons
for the transport break - once under my own fingers with no excessive
force or pressure used - the plastic just snapped when I pushed it. One
of those was sent for repair and the techie (our own internal guy) said
that it was "beyond economic repair". 

I susepct you could find cheaper sources for the unit than the magazine
ads I've seen. Don't know about the other deck you asked about but
for my money, the marantz is a great deck, but it's a little cheaply 
built and thus I think a bit overpriced. I get most of the flexibility
of pitch control and half speed via my 4 track cassette anyway.  

 - malcolm@wrs.com
From: masanag@athena.mit.edu (Masahiko Nagamiya)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: CORAL Electric Sitar
Date: 15 Sep 92 16:33:00 GMT
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology

Hey everyone don't forget that Steve Vai uses the Coral on
every single album he's played on. He borrowed it from
Frank Zappa and I think he still has it. It's all over his
albums if you pay attention. Oh the best song he did with
that in my opinion is "What's new in Baltimore" on the Zappa
album "The MOthers of Prevention". 

Rock 'n' Roll dudes

Masa

-------Politics are Dancing-----Raymaker-------
From: sumrn@dssv01.crd.ge.com (Robert N. Sum)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Re: HELP on Naming >>CHORDS<< (longish)
Keywords: chord spelling
Date: 11 Sep 92 21:39:21 GMT
Reply-To: sumrn@crd.ge.com
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Organization: GE R&D, DICE Program


A quite note on my earlier post:  I need to use the spelling checker!

Please substitute "diminished" everywhere you see "dimished".

Thanks.

  -- Bob
==
  sumrn@crd.ge.com

  Robert Sum
  G.E. Corp. R. & D.
  P.O. Box 8, Rm. KW-C277
  Schenectady, NY 12301

  Tel. (518) 387-7696

Please note that the "Standard Disclaimer" applies here.
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: bash@tware.com (Paul Bash)
Subject: Re: DIGITECH RP-1 Final Price
Organization: Techware Design, Boulder, Colorado
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 13:41:45 GMT

In article <lb1l52INNha@west.west.sun.com> mjm@sun.com writes:
>American Musical Supply came in with the best price....$399 out the door....
>which I would have had to get a price of about $375 from a music store.
>When I called them the first time they told me $419.  I called back yesterday
>pretending that I had a price of $370 from a music store asking if they
>could beat it.  The AMS person I was dealing with said that Digitech forbids
>mail order dealers from selling this product at that low a price.  True?  I
>couldn't tell.  The manager came on the line and wanted to know which music
>store was offering this price because they weren't supposed to be selling
>it that low.   So I made up a fake name.
>
>Be interesting to see if anyone else gets or has gotten a better deal....
>
>---

Suncoast Music Distributing (813-822-4949) has the RP-1 listed in their
Spring-Summer catalog at $365 (+4% if you use a credit card).

-- 
Paul Bash                                                   Techware Design 
bash@tware.com                                              Boulder, CO  U.S.A.
Organization: University of Maine System
Date: Monday, 7 Sep 1992 19:42:37 EDT
From: <IO20643@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: help

    Like I got this totally cool guitar and like I dont tknow how to
play and I was just wonderin what I'm sposed to do.  I mean, like I
dont even know how to tune it.  I was jus wondering could like any
of you dudes out there, kinda help me a bit.  I'd appreciate it greatly.
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:7934 misc.forsale:25987 ny.forsale:1523
From: v129raaq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Richard T Ciesla)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,misc.forsale,ny.forsale,sunyab.forsale
Subject: BEGINNER'S ELECTRIC GUITAR FOR SALE
Keywords: guitar,for sale
Date: 11 Sep 92 00:17:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41


I have a Harmony electric guitar with a red and white Fender Strat-Style
body, three single-coil pickups, a tremelo bar, and a soft zip-up carrying
case. 

I'm asking $150 plus shipping, or best offer.

reply to:

Rich Ciesla
v129raaq@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: plyall@lookout.it.uswc.uswest.com (Pete Lyall)
Subject: Re: Strat Plus Ultra question(s)
Organization: U S WEST Information Technologies
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 14:41:34 GMT

I bought a Strat Plus about a year and a half ago...

1st question: are Lace Sensors as good as they're made out to be?

In a word - yes. They are quiet, have less magnetic influence on the
strings (which means you can move them right up close without loss of
sustain if you need more drive), and sound damned good. I don't think
they fully duplicate that 'hollow' fender sound in the neck position,
but they're no slackers. You can get some very sweet tones (Knopfler,
Gilmour, etc.) out of these beasties right off the wall. Another nice
feature is tat I have NEVER heard quieter single coils... never.

I did try the blue lace sensor in the bridge position for more drive
and punch... results were that I found it too microphonic, it fed back
easily, and didn't have the drive I wanted. I also tried a Seymour Duncan 
single coil stack, but ended up installing another Seymour Duncan hot
rail here, with a switch for going to single coil mode. I _love_ this
combination.

Pete

-- 
Pete Lyall [USWest]        Compuserve: 76703,4230           Internet: plyall@uswest.com
---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
"... So I picked up my pride from beneath the pay phone, and combed his breath 
right outta my hair. And sometimes, it's not so easy ..." J. Hendrix/My Friend
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
From: kew@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (steve.w.askew)
Subject: Re: Fret jobs
Followup-To: alt.guitar
Summary: Is Ree Teeter related to Don Teeter?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 1992 14:57:56 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.225249.20964@dsg.tandem.com>, paul@everest.tandem.com (Paul Duffy) writes:
> In article <1992Sep8.064759.25833@iconix.oz.au> ajm@iconix.oz.au (Andrew Mack) writes:
> >Hi folks,
> >
> >Any luthiery buffs out there know what is meant by "Don Teeter's
						      ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> >epoxy fret job"? How to do it, why do it, etc... any references?
> >
> >thanks
> >Andrew
> 
> Yeah, the frets are epoxied into the fingerboard instead of just hammered
> in as usual.  It's a better fret job because there are no "loose"
> spots anywhere.
> 
> Paul.
> 


	Ok the Luthier that I use is Ree Teeter. Does anyone know if he's
	related to Don teeter? I'd ask him but I only see him about twice a year.
	Ree make RT guitars. He does very nice work.


	Steve
	Doin That Blues ThAng!

Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: mrayle@eng.clemson.edu (michael rayle)
Subject: Re: 12-string guitars
Reply-To: mrayle@eng.clemson.edu
Organization: College of Engineering, Clemson Univ.
Date: Sun, 6 Sep 1992 22:28:45 GMT

Just for the record, about a month ago I purchased a "used" Aria 12-string.
The previous owner said he bought it new in 1974 with high hopes of actually
learning how to play it.  He said that it had been played for "about an hour"
then it was put away.  He decided to sell it, had new strings put on and
placed the ad in the paper.
 
When I read about it, I was skeptical about the age and what kind of condition
it would be in.  But I decided to look at it anyway.  When I saw it, I couldn't
believe it was a '74 model.  It was perfect.  NO scratches on the pick guard and
no wear on the frets, or the neck.  AND it sounds beautiful!
 
There is one disadvantage: it has no internal pickup, but my Dean Markley Pro-mag
pickup fits just fine it the sound hole.
 
The best part is that it only cost me $160!  I figure that it's a deal that can't
be beat.  My advice to you (unless you *have* to pay an ungodly amount of money
so that your pride can be puffed-up) is to search the classifieds in your local
paper.  Someones always trying to sell an instrument that he/she isn't playing
or can't play anymore.
 
Good luck in your search.
 
Regards,
.Mike..


Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: M23231@mwvm.mitre.org
Subject: Re: Flamenco
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, McLean VA 22102
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:25:44 GMT

In article <1992Sep7.115043.15459@odin.diku.dk>
shotokan@diku.dk (Kim H|glund) writes:
 
>
>philipm@papillon.ucsd.edu (The Philster) writes:
>> I would like to find out the techniques and theory behind flamenco
>> guitar music. I've read that special picking techniques are used
>> (striking and other varieties)? Could someone post an informative post
>> on Flamenco, please?
>
Noting your e-mail address, Phil, I recommend that you contact Paco Sevilla
in San Diego. (619) 470-0971. There really is no way to learn flamenco guitar
that beats a good teacher. Flamenco guitar is not just about techniques; it's
like Zen--a way of life. It takes years of playing to become a master. Yet it
is not the attainment, but the journey that is the reward.
 
I have never heard what I consider to be a successful fusion of Flamenco and
any other kind of music. People keep trying, though. To me it is like trying to
find some flavor of milkshake that would be improved by a dash of Tabasco sauce
. :-)
 
If you do contact Paco, give him my best and tell him Jerry Lobdill will be
responding to his snail mail soon.
 
Ole, la mano!
 
Jerry (35 years on the road to becoming a flamenco guitarist)
From: jason@hpfcbig.SDE.HP.COM (Jason Goldman)
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 15:01:04 GMT
Subject: Re: Slide Guitar
Organization: HP SESD, Fort Collins, CO
Newsgroups: alt.guitar

I play slide almost exclusively in standard tuning.  I can't see hauling
around another guitar that's *just* for slide and retuning on the fly is
a hassle, too, so I just learned to play in standard tuning.  The Guitar
Player people put out a sppecial issue a while back that talked about
standard tuning slide licks.  The key to playing *any* slide is to master
damping the strings you don't want to hear.

Jason
jason@gisbon.sde.hp.com
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:7815 rec.music.makers:9399
From: hayrinen@messi.uku.fi (Hayrinen Jukka)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.makers
Subject: Req: Changing the ZOOM 9002 remote controller
Date: 7 Sep 92 10:09:15 GMT
Organization: University of Kuopio, Finland
Originator: hayrinen@messi.uku.fi


Greetings again!
ZOOM 9002 comes with this absolutely useless tiny 'remote controller'.I would
like to use its printed circuit to build a stomp-box with silent switches and
leds. Has anyone tried this before? Are the components expensive?

-Jukka (alias Frank)-



 
Xref: sparky alt.guitar:7836 rec.music.industrial:10233
From: rdr@panix.com (Reuben Radding)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar,rec.music.industrial
Subject: Re: Big Black question: how does he _do_ that?
Date: 8 Sep 92 09:14:51 GMT
Organization: Doc Porter's Thrills Show

In <LANCER.92Sep7025230@wpi.WPI.EDU> lancer@wpi.WPI.EDU (Stephe Lewis Foskett) writes:


>My question is fairly simple:

>How did Steve Albini get his guitar to make that lovely metal-on-metal
>noise?  Is is all pick scrapes?  Steel picks?  Did he mess with his guitar
>somehow?  Raise the pickups to touch the strings or something?  How?



He DOES use copper picks! I have a few. They're called Hot Licks. (Dumb
name) He goes through about ten per song. He does some amazing things with
the scrapes etc... but I can tell you mean his normal er...strumming and
all. Note that he doesn't use an amp most guitarists would covet. Seperate
power amp, high end pre amp (rack), big ol' graphic EQ, and some weird
DDL set on some modulating flange thing. As usual, the trashiest sounds
require the most tweaking. Also note his speaker choice:  a PA speaker with
a horn. Guitar uses a single pickup (near the bridge of course), and
then there's a really freaky looking distortion thing on the floor
called the "sonic percolater" if I remember correctly. (It's been a few
years.) The percolater wasn't the "key" to his sound though, I could tell. 
He turned it on and off a lot and when it was on it seemed like a somewhat
subtle (ha) boost for punctuation of certain phrases.

have fun,
 
-- 
================================================================
|  Reuben Radding         rdr@panix.com       cmcl2!panix!rdr  |
|==============================================================|
| ******************* Marrou / Lord in 1992 ****************** | 
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
From: etxpell@mega10.megadom (Pelle Arvinder)
Subject: test (please ignore)
Reply-To: etxpell@mega10.megadom
Organization: Ericsson Telecom, Stockholm, Sweden
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 08:06:23 GMT


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From: brogers@Auspex.COM (Bob Rogers)
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Message to Julian Chen
Date: 14 Sep 92 17:50:57 GMT

Julian,

Your mailer is not working. I tried to send a note to you
but it was not delivered.

I am interested in the addresses for Fleta, Smallman, and
Abreu if you have them. I was also interested in what Fleta
requires to hold your spot in the queue. 

Someone posted that Gilbert takes orders and then bumps you
in the queue. Is this typical?

Thanks.

Bob Rogers
-- 
brogers@auspex.com (408) 492-0900
USPS: Bob Rogers/ Auspex Systems/ 2952 Bunker Hill Lane/ Santa Clara, CA 95054
From: JAP8@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: alt.guitar
Subject: Signature Strats?
Date: 10 Sep 92 16:05:05 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

I've heard talk of the special "Signature" series of Strats...specifically the
Eric Clapton one.  Who else has one of these and how much are they expected to
go for (American Dollars, please), and (finally) what colors do they come in?
I ask the color thing because if Dave Gilmour of Pink Floyd were in on this,
the Strat they'd sell with his name on it would probably be Frost Red (i.e. red
that's a little darker than true red with little sparkly things on it -- like a
car's metallic paintjob, also with a white fingerboard and maplewood neck). Any
comments should be sent to me...no sense in cluttering up the net with answers.
                                  Cheers,
                                  Jean (aka I broke a string on my acoustic
                                        last night -- argh!)

  **** No one cares about my opinions, especially Penn State. ****