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From: grey@babs.sfsu.edu (Herbert Leong)
Subject: Re: Baycon?
Organization: California State University, Sacramento
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 07:37:12 GMT

In article <1993Jan22.005846.17646@netcom.com> dani@netcom.com (Dani  
Zweig) writes:
> I noticed that Baycon wasn't on the listing of upcoming conventions.
> Is it definitely dead?

As far as I know, BayCon is alive and well.
I know the person (Judy) who handels green room for Baycon and she was  
going to the baycon staff meeting on this last (17th) sunday.
There will, as far as I know, be meetings every 3rd sunday at the Red  
Lion.  Don't ask me for any info as I really do not know the particulars  
for BayCon.


--
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grey@wet.com

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From: brian@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu (Brian Louis Rogers  (BLuR))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: REQUEST: info for worldcon 95(?)
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Date: 28 Jan 1993 13:38:03 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois, Materials Research Labs Cent. for Computation, Operations Office
Distribution: world
Reply-To: rogers@uimrl7.mrl.uiuc.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: uimrli.mrl.uiuc.edu

Well, I have 2 years to start saving money for this.

	I need standard information for the worldcon being held in 
Scotland.

	Email appreciated, posts will be read.  Danke.


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From: zardoz@sycom.mi.org (David Lillard)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: B.B.L.
Distribution: world
X-BBS-Software: EXCELSIOR! V0.976
Date: 24 Jan 93 16:19:00 EST
Organization: Michigan Information eXchange

 
If you ever get the chance to attend a Workshop or talk by Barry B. Longyear,
I *strongly* suggest that you do so.  He is both Entertaining and Informative.
He's the only speaker I've ever encountered who made the act of taking a dump
both Funny AND Interesting.
 
BTW, you *might* want to pick up a copy of his Writer's Guide.  It's only
"$10 - cheap".
 
Disclaimer:  The above is *only* my opinion.  I have no connection to
             Mr. Longyear.  I was mearly one of his pleased audience 
             members at this weekend's ConFusion.
 
Best, Dave.
From: jsnyder@cadev5.intel.com (Jan Snyder )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: Any ConFrancisco hotel news?
Date: 21 Jan 93 20:28:07 GMT
Organization: Intel Santa Clara Design Technology


Hi gang,

I may've missed something due to infrequent reading of this group, but
I'm still wondering if I'll ever get another PR from ConFrancisco.
(Yes, I'm already an attending member and have occasionally received
PRs in the past.)

Since I live rather close (50 miles) to the site, I'm planning to attend
regardless of whether I commute or not, but would love to have option of
getting into one of the hotels for a couple nights if only the Con would
send along the latest registration info.

Has anyone recieved a PR lately?  Alternatively, does anyone have any 
other solid info or good rumors on this?

Thanks!

-Sallijan

-
Sallijan Snyder, Wordware Engineer | "I don't let my employer take credit for my opinions."
Santa Clara, California            | (408) 765-5444 voicemail    (408) 629-5909 home robot
Internet: jsnyder@scdt.intel.com   |          =>Internet Z-Car Club Member #42<=
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From: jacobus@symphony.cc.purdue.edu (Bryan J. Maloney)
Subject: Looking for dates and places of "proof-of-age-required" cons.
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sat, 23 Jan 1993 06:12:05 GMT




My fiancee and I have heard of so-called "proof-of-age-required" or "adult"
cons.  For snicks and grins, we've decided to see what one might be like.

Therefore, does anyone know the dates and locations of such cons around the
country.  Those near the Classic Midwest (Indiana, Illinois, Ohio) would be
best.
From: clayson@xenomorph.Eng.Sun.COM (Mathew Clayson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: Idahoe cons WAS: MosCon, Norwescon?
Date: 28 Jan 93 00:28:54 GMT
Reply-To: clayson@xenomorph.Eng.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: xenomorph

I have a sister-in-law that's moving near Lewiston, ID in a couple of months, is there any living fandom in the area?


Mat clayson
"If you can't buy something nice...don't buy nothin' at all." -ME-
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From: roper@chinet.chi.il.us (Bill Roper)
Subject: Re: Norwescon Art Show snobbery
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
Date: Fri, 29 Jan 1993 00:25:03 GMT

<1k998oINNire@shelley.u.washington.edu>
Distribution: world
Organization: Chinet - Public Access UNIX
 
 
I know of a number of conventions in the Midwest that only accept
original art and hand-colored prints.  The idea is simple -- if it's
mass-produced, then it belongs in the hucksters' room, not in the
art show -- or maybe in a print shop.
 
Art auctions can easily run too long.  The trick is to be able to
knock off pieces in less than 2 minutes each, while not cutting off
bidding (like, say, encouraging it...), being entertaining, and not
being there all night.  If you want your art auction to run less than
three hours, then you want no more than about 90 pieces in the auction.
 
Requiring more than two (!) bids to go to auction is a great way to 
cause people to pile up in the art show at closing, frantically bidding
against each other on the piece that they hoped to "steal" from the
last bidder.  It's great fun if you're trying to defend more than one
piece from different artists.  Three bids (as at Norwescon this year)
is a reasonable compromise that avoids the Ghodawful panic that you
get with higher numbers (such as the 8 that the original poster
suggested).
 
In short (which is impossible now), I believe that mechanically-
produced prints should generally be sold in a print shop or at a 
hucksters table at a fixed price.  It is up to the artist to establish
a price where he/she will be satisfied and the prints will still sell.
It's a capitalist society, and life is tough.
 
(By the way -- I'm a filthy huckster, producer of filk tapes, sometimes
auctioneer, art collector, and former con-chair.  You can take my
opinion for whatever you think it's worth.)
-- 
Bill Roper, roper@chinet.chi.il.us
From: mab@buphy.bu.edu (Michael Burstein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: Lunacon
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:24:42 GMT
Distribution: ne
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

I'm thinking of going to Lunacon, but I would need transportation there
and back (to Boston area). Is there anyone out there who has space in a
vehicle? I'd be willing to split gas, tolls, etc.

Please respond by e-mail.


-- 
Michael A. Burstein
Physics Department, Boston University         mab@buphy.bu.edu
590 Commonwealth Ave.                         (617) 353-9437 (o)
Boston, MA 02215                              (617) 735-9433 (h)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
From: dani@netcom.com (Dani Zweig)
Subject: Baycon?
Organization: Netcom Online Communications Services (408-241-9760 login: guest)
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:58:46 GMT

I noticed that Baycon wasn't on the listing of upcoming conventions.
Is it definitely dead?

-----
Dani Zweig
dani@netcom.com

"One of my favorite games when I was a kid was 'murder/suicide.'
 Dad would show us a photo and ask us, "Is it a murder or a suicide?"
	  --  Colleen Doran


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From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: 1993 Worldcon/ConFrancisco Progress Report 5
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 02:40:14 GMT

confrancisco@Tgv.Com (Confrancisco Internet Mailbox) writes:

>Because not enough volunteers came to the ten-hour work session on Saturday,
>January 23, we were unable to prepare enough PRs to cover the roughly 1,000
>members in Northern California (Zip codes starting with 936 through 961).
>Sacramento-based members of the committee expect to work on the remaining
>copies this week and mail the Northern California members' PRs on Saturday,
>January 30. (The bulk mail center is open on Saturdays.)

Worldcons use volunteers for mailings??? Eek.
-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
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From: mwallis@lunacity.com (Michael Wallis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom,alt.fandom.cons
Subject: Re: 1993 Worldcon/ConFrancisco Progress Report 5
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 08:24:26 PST
Organization: LunaCity BBS - (Clan Zen Relay Network) Mountain View, CA

kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:

> Actually, I figured with the surpluses recent worldcons have made
> (well, some of them anyway) that you could afford to pay someone to
> mail them for you.

A) Not that many worldcons have made money, and
B) Each worldcon is a separate organization.

There is a "Pass along" plan for sharing excess revenue but it's recent
and not all recent worldcons have participated. It's still a vairly small
number compared to what it would cost to pay people.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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"I got a postcard from a friend the other day with a picture of
 the earth on it.  It read, 'Wish you were here.'"             - Steven Wright
From: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: Helicon Memberships for Sale
Date: 25 Jan 1993 13:22:29 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Reply-To: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: ansible.pubs.stratus.com

I have two adult and one child membership for Helicon, the will be held on the  
Isle of Jersey this April---yes, it's this year's Eastercon.  I think George RR  
Martin is the GoH.  Please send me E-mail if you're interested in finding out  
more.  I will sell them for cost, which I think was about $40 each for the  
adult membership, and $20 for the child (though I will double check this
for an interested buyer).

--
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******      And now for something completely different...     ******
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From: jsnyder@cadev5.intel.com (Jan Snyder )
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: Re: Any ConFrancisco hotel news? (Not Yet---Late Jan/Early Feb)
Date: 25 Jan 93 21:18:11 GMT
Organization: Intel Santa Clara Design Technology

In article <NgesXB1w165w@lunacity.com> mwallis@lunacity.com (Michael Wallis) 
writes:
>lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann) writes:
>> Jan Snyder  writes
>> >I may've missed something due to infrequent reading of this group, but
>> >I'm still wondering if I'll ever get another PR from ConFrancisco.
>> >(Yes, I'm already an attending member and have occasionally received
>> >PRs in the past.)
>> Don't worry, the PR with the hotel information won't go out until
>> late January.  You haven't missed it yet!
>In fact there's a mailing party at the ConFrnacisco office this weekend.
>They should start hitting the mails next week. With over 4000 to mail, it
>may take a week or two to get them all into the tender, loving hands of the
>USPS.

Thanks much--I shall set one of the cats to guard my mailbox until the PR
arrives!

-Sallijan

-
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Santa Clara, California            | (408) 765-5444 voicemail    (408) 629-5909 home robot
Internet: jsnyder@scdt.intel.com   |          =>Internet Z-Car Club Member #42<=
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From: kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle)
Subject: Re: 1993 Worldcon/ConFrancisco Progress Report 5
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 08:06:31 GMT

mwallis@lunacity.com (Michael Wallis) writes:

>kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:
>> Worldcons use volunteers for mailings??? Eek.

>What ... you think you're not paying enough for a worldcon membership?? If
>they paid us for all the hours that get put in, you'd be seeing MUCH
>higher rates, believe me.

>        8-)

Actually, I figured with the surpluses recent worldcons have made
(well, some of them anyway) that you could afford to pay someone to
mail them for you.
-- 

Kiran Wagle                           <kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
From:  ()
Subject: Re: WesterCon Info Wanted
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:25:30 GMT

In article <74442@cup.portal.com>, jacqueline@cup.portal.com (Sue Ellen
Adkins) wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for an address for WesterCon.  I'm looking forward to
> visiting Seattle again.  Can anyone provide it?
>   Thanks!

PO Box 24292
Seattle, WA
USA 98124

Memberships are somewhere around $45, I think (I picked up one for $40 at
RustyCon).

Hotel is the Red Lion Hotel, which still has space. Telephone (206)
455-1300. Rates are $85/night, and they had rooms a week ago when I called.

By the way, Norwescon memberships are apparently going fast, if you were
thinking of going to that. I heard a rumour that they've put a cap on
registrations this year. All this is happening because Anne McCaffrey's
gonna be there, I guess.

Hope this is useful!

- Gladys
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
From: mavra@harvey (Peter Adkison)
Subject: Re: Filthy Pierre's Convention List -- how to get?
Organization: Boeing Defense & Space Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 16:44:56 GMT

Jonathan Monsarrat (jgm@cs.brown.edu) wrote:
: How can I get Filthy Pierre's list of conventions? I need the street
: address and the asking price.

I need it to.  But please don't mail the info to the address in the header;
send to mavra@wizards.com.  Thanks!

					--Mavra!
					  Peter D. Adkison
					  Systems Analyst
					  Boeing Defense & Space Group
From: richard@intercon.com (Richard L. Butler)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: Re: question
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:00:31 -0500
Organization: InterCon Systems Corporation
Distribution: world
Reply-To: richard@intercon.com (Richard L. Butler)
NNTP-Posting-Host: caligari.intercon.com
Summary: an answer to the question.
X-Newsreader: InterCon TCP/Connect II 1.1b34

keren@math.tau.ac.il (Keren Shmuel) writes:
> 
> I am new in this news stuff, and so i have a question which should not 
> stricly be asked in this group but i just dont know where else to send it. 
> The question is : where is a group or whatever that is talking(writing) 
> about RPG ( RolePlayingGame ) 
> And ofcourse for the next time where do i send this questions when i need
> it ? 

Seek RPG discussion in rec.games.frp.misc, .dnd, .marketplace, etc.

For "where do I find this" questions, try news.newusers.questions.

Good luck.


Richard L. Butler
InterCon Systems Corp
"What?  Me Worry?"


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From: king@rtsg.mot.com (Steven King, Software Archaeologist)
Subject: Rates for Glasgow?
Reply-To: king@rtsg.mot.com
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 02:35:49 GMT

Does anyone have the registration rates for Glasgow in 95?  The last
information I had was only guarranteed through the end of 92.

-- 
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
From:  we@sfu.ca
Subject: Re: WesterCon Info Wanted
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 00:26:55 GMT

In article <74442@cup.portal.com>, jacqueline@cup.portal.com (Sue Ellen
Adkins) wrote:
> 
> I'm looking for an address for WesterCon.  I'm looking forward to
> visiting Seattle again.  Can anyone provide it?
>   Thanks!

PO Box 24292
Seattle, WA
USA 98124

Memberships are somewhere around $45, I think (I picked up one for $40 at
RustyCon).

Hotel is the Red Lion Hotel, which still has space. Telephone (206)
455-1300. Rates are $85/night, and they had rooms a week ago when I called.

By the way, Norwescon memberships are apparently going fast, if you were
thinking of going to that. I heard a rumour that they've put a cap on
registrations this year. All this is happening because Anne McCaffrey's
gonna be there, I guess.

Hope this is useful!

- Gladys
From: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: Re: Any ConFrancisco hotel news? (Not Yet---Late Jan/Early Feb)
Date: 21 Jan 1993 20:49:28 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
Reply-To: lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
NNTP-Posting-Host: ansible.pubs.stratus.com

Jan Snyder  writes
>I may've missed something due to infrequent reading of this group, but
>I'm still wondering if I'll ever get another PR from ConFrancisco.
>(Yes, I'm already an attending member and have occasionally received
>PRs in the past.)

Don't worry, the PR with the hotel information won't go out until
late January.  You haven't missed it yet!

** lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Internet) Laurie.Mann (GEnie) **
******      And now for something completely different...     ******
From: aa811@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Terri M. Librande)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: MosCon, Norwescon?
Date: 22 Jan 93 22:23:26 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu


I was wondering if anyone out there knows me from Norwescon or
Moscon.  I'm living all the way out here in Cleveland and wonder
if any of my old buddies are in the net.

Terri Librande
in Cleveland
-- 
"Unscrupulous--but effective!"  Al in "Starcrossed"
Terri Librande aa811@cleveland.Freenet.edu  Assistant Sysop
The Science Fiction and Fantasy Sig--Go SCIFI
From: wixer!cactus.org!wixer!pro-smof.cts.com!allston@cactus.org (Aaron Allston)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: ConFrancisco PRs
Date: 25 Jan 1993 22:48:25 -0600
Organization: The SMOF-BBS: Science Fiction Online Since 1985 [512-467-7317]
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Sallijan, the scraps of news I see in the ConFrancisco topic on GEnie
indicate that Progress Report #5 has been printed and may have even been
assembled or mailed by now. (It required assembly because of an insert
going into it).
 
I received PR #4 a month or two back; this wasn't the original mailing of
that PR.
 
Hotel registration info is supposed to be in #5.
From: jacqueline@cup.portal.com (Sue Ellen Adkins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: WesterCon Info Wanted
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 22:15:17 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: usa

I'm looking for an address for WesterCon.  I'm looking forward to
visiting Seattle again.  Can anyone provide it?
  Thanks!
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
From: peed@rtsg.mot.com (Andrew Peed)
Subject: How to transfer a Capricon membership?
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Distribution: chi
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 15:48:39 GMT


My girlfriend has a Capricon membership she's not going to be able to use...
How can she go about transferring it to someone else?

			-- Andy
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
From: keren@math.tau.ac.il (Keren Shmuel)
Subject: question
Organization: School of Math & CS - Tel Aviv University , Tel Aviv , ISRAEL.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 16:37:26 GMT



   I am new in this news stuff, and so i have a question which should not
    stricly be asked in this group but i just dont know where else
    to send it.
  The question is : where is a group or whatever that is talking(writing)
    about RPG ( RolePlayingGame )
  And ofcourse for the next time where do i send this questions when i
    need it ?

        Shmuel keren

* "There is another hill after this one" "thats nice".                     *
From: mwallis@lunacity.com (Michael Wallis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom
Subject: Re: Any ConFrancisco hotel news? (Not Yet---Late Jan/Early Feb)
Date: 22 Jan 93 16:32:22 GMT
Organization: LunaCity BBS - (Clan Zen Relay Network) Mountain View, CA

lmann@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Laurie Mann) writes:

> Jan Snyder  writes
> >I may've missed something due to infrequent reading of this group, but
> >I'm still wondering if I'll ever get another PR from ConFrancisco.
> >(Yes, I'm already an attending member and have occasionally received
> >PRs in the past.)
> 
> Don't worry, the PR with the hotel information won't go out until
> late January.  You haven't missed it yet!

In fact there's a mailing party at the ConFrnacisco office this weekend.
They should start hitting the mails next week. With over 4000 to mail, it
may take a week or two to get them all into the tender, loving hands of the
USPS.

------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Michael Wallis -> mwallis@lunacity.com

"I got a postcard from a friend the other day with a picture of
 the earth on it.  It read, 'Wish you were here.'"             - Steven Wright
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From: "joe markovic" <joe.markovic@canrem.com>
Subject: Looking for dates and places of "proof-of-age-required" cons.
Reply-To: "joe markovic" <joe.markovic@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: rec
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:09:18 EST


BJ>My fiancee and I have heard of so-called "proof-of-age-required" or "adult"
BJ>cons.  For snicks and grins, we've decided to see what one might be like.
BJ>
BJ>Therefore, does anyone know the dates and locations of such cons around the
BJ>country.  Those near the Classic Midwest (Indiana, Illinois, Ohio) would be
BJ>best.

There are 2 reasons that a Convention would have for asking for "proof-of-age",

1) They are serving alcohol in the Con Suite, and mark the badges accordingly.

   or

2) It is a convention for swingers.  In which case I'd suggest reading some of
   the alt.sex newsgroups.


ciao, Joe
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From: mwallis@lunacity.com (Michael Wallis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.fandom,alt.fandom.cons
Subject: Re: 1993 Worldcon/ConFrancisco Progress Report 5
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 19:22:00 PST
Organization: LunaCity BBS - (Clan Zen Relay Network) Mountain View, CA

kiran@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu (Kiran Wagle) writes:

> >Because not enough volunteers came to the ten-hour work session on Saturday,
> >January 23, we were unable to prepare enough PRs to cover the roughly 1,000
> >members in Northern California (Zip codes starting with 936 through 961).
> >Sacramento-based members of the committee expect to work on the remaining
> >copies this week and mail the Northern California members' PRs on Saturday,
> >January 30. (The bulk mail center is open on Saturdays.)
> 
> Worldcons use volunteers for mailings??? Eek.

What ... you think you're not paying enough for a worldcon membership?? If
they paid us for all the hours that get put in, you'd be seeing MUCH
higher rates, believe me.

        8-)

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"I got a postcard from a friend the other day with a picture of
 the earth on it.  It read, 'Wish you were here.'"             - Steven Wright
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