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From: KRIZ@VTVM1.BITNET (Harry M. Kriz)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.win3-l
Subject: Re: DOS startup directories in Win 3.1
Date: 9 Apr 92 16:52:36 GMT
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              8 Apr 1992 20:06:04 -0500 from <hahm@ISCSVAX.UNI.EDU>

In response to the following question:
--- Begin original posted question --------------
Has anyone noticed that when you launch DOS apps in 3.1 that windows seems to
point to the Windows subdirectory and not to the directory that one states in
the startup directory box in the pif editor.
--- End original posted question ----------------

I believe this is the behavior as documented.  I get to the desired
working directory by specifying it explicitly in Program Manager's
File Properties box.  Windows applications themselves also default
to the Windows subdirectory unless you specify otherwise.  In version
3.0, they defaulted to the directory from which the application was
started.  Note that there is a different default the first time
you add an application to a program group. When Win 3.1 installed
itself, it took my Properties entries, which included a fully
pathed command line, and put the exe file name in the Command Line
Box and the path in the Working Directory box.  This caused my
applications to start in the working directory, which is not
always what I desire.

Caveat:  I move almost all of my applications out of the Windows
subdirectory, and none of my applications are included in my
DOS path.  Those using different methods may see different things
happening.

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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 08:33:04 EDT
From:         "Harry M. Kriz" <KRIZ@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Sample of all fonts?
              12 Apr 1992 16:00:10 GMT from <jdm5@NS1.CC.LEHIGH.EDU>

To print a sample of all fonts, a shareware program named TypeView
is useful.  A program named FontBuster also printed fonts, but it
doesn't recognize TrueType fonts as far as I can see.

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From: hahm@iscsvax.uni.edu (Ronald Hahm)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.win3-l
Subject: DOS startup directories in Win 3.1
Date: 8 Apr 92 20:06:04 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Has anyone noticed that when you launch DOS apps in 3.1 that windows seems to
point to the Windows subdirectory and not to the directory that one states in
the startup directory box in the pif editor.  I have been having a problem with
this with a particular dos program that I use.  My only solution has been to
have the PIF file launch a batch file that sends windows to the correct
directory and execute the files.  Has anyone experienced this?  Is this a bug
in Win 3.1?

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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 16:24:00 EDT
From:         DBRANTON@HUBIO2.HARVARD.EDU
Subject:      FONTS in Non-Windows Apps

When I go to the Control-menu for non-Windows applications (Hot-line, ARev,
XYWrite, etc.) I never see the "Fonts..." line.  Other lines, Restore,
Move, Size, through Settings... all show up.  I recently installed Windows
3.1 and was looking forward to being able to adjust font sizes in non-
windows applications, so would appreciate any pointers on what I am doing
wrong.
Dan Branton
BRANTON@HUSC3.HARVARD.EDU
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Date:         Sat, 11 Apr 1992 10:35:00 EDT
From:         DBRANTON@HUBIO2.HARVARD.EDU
Subject:      Memory and MONOUMB2

Several people have helpfully responded to my querry regarding the use of
MONOUMB2.386 to correct WINDOWS 3.1 from complaining about not being able
to access memory address at B000 when using a memory optimized QEMM config.sys.
But if I place Device=monoumb2.386 in my Windows 3.1 SYSTEM.INI file (and
monoumb2.386 has been expanded into the \WINDOWS subdirectory) my computer
(Zeos 486) now locks up when I enter WINDOWS unless I have excluded the
B000-B7FF memory space in config.sys.  In other words, I cannot recover the
high memory space, which I had had using WINDOWS 3.0.  Anyone else had
this problem?  Does QEMM have new drivers which will quell WINDOWS 3.1 extra
memory demands?
        Dan Branton
        BRANTON@HUSC3.HARVARD.EDU
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From: smsmith@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Stephen M Smith)
Subject: Re: Is this list for OS/2 as well?"
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Mon, 6 Apr 1992 22:24:29 GMT

KARGRA@GBA930.ZAMG.AC.AT writes:
>Now folks, I'd say this is definitly a list for win3.x users, not OS2. The fact
>that OS2 looks like win3 and runs win3 software (or not) does not make OS2 be
>win3. 

The reason that OS/2 looks like Win3 and runs Win3 software is that
it includes Win3 source code.  IBM licensed the code from Microsoft to 
include it in OS/2.  Also, many people find that it is better to
develop Windows software under OS/2 than under Windows because OS/2
is more stable.

>If OS2ers have trouble using win3 software, this should remain their
>problem. I don't think, that an average win3 user can tell, why some program
>won't run under OS2, just because he does not use OS2.

Is there an OS/2 list group?  I didn't think there was.  The best
place to discuss OS/2 issues is in comp.os.os2.misc, comp.os.os2.apps,
or comp.os.os2.programmer, but I would guess that many people on 
bitnet do not have access to internet and can't read those groups.

SS
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From: Hannu.Nyman@hut.fi (Hannu Nyman)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.win3-l,bit.listserv-wpcorp-l,bit.listserv.wpwin-l,comp.windows.ms
Subject: Problem with Windows 3.1 and WordPerfect for Windows
Date: 11 Apr 92 17:55:43 GMT
Reply-To: Hannu.Nyman@hut.fi
Followup-To: comp.windows.ms
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland

I have a problem with 3.1 and WPfW. Every time when I open a file in
WPfW, I get an error. DrWatson says: "'Exceed Segment Bounds (read)'
in WPWINFIL 32:1a06".

In 3.0 this would have been UAE. If I choose 'Ignore error' from the
menu given, I can continue quite normally and the file opens ok. This
kind of behaviour is quite annoying. Has anyone else met the same
problem?  Has anyone found a solution for it?

Hannu Nyman
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From: mlester@ducvax.auburn.edu (Miles Lester)
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.win3-l
Subject: Re: 4DOS in Win31
Date: 10 Apr 92 23:09:49 GMT
Organization: Division University Computing, Auburn University

>       I just got Win 3.1 today.  It seems to me that everything runs
>faster (but not smooth) and looks more elegant.  However, there is one
>thing that annoys me.
>       I have 4DOS Ver.4 as command shell.  When I open a DOS window
>running 4DOS.COM, everytime I press enter or execute a command it adds
>"happy face" characters.  If I dont "cls" the screen, it fills the
>window with the "happy face" characteres.

I cannot explain why this is happening to you, but it shouldn't be.
Are you using the 4DOS.PIF file which was supplied with 4DOS? 

>       Does this means 4DOS is incompatible with Win 3.1?
>       Any help are welcome.

Absolutely not.... I have been running 4DOS (Registered) under Windows
for quite awhile, and now WIN 3.1 as well with no problems of any sort.

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From: reijnierse@research.ptt.nl
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.win3-l
Subject: MS Draw - WFW 2.0 - problems!!!
Date: 8 Apr 92 13:30:36 GMT

Dear win3-l'ers

I've been having problems with the MS Draw program that came with 
Word for Windows 2.0. Sometimes when i use dotted or dashed lines
in a drawing the whole drawing suddenly becomes dotted or dashed.
I found a way to circumvent this problem by inserting the dotted 
and dashed lines last, but i shouldn't have to do this.

My guess is that it is a bug in the MS Draw program (WFW 2.0 and 
not WFW 2.0a) or maybe a bug in the Postscript printer driver.
I already tried the Postscript drivers 3.4, 3.4A and 3.4B but none
of them work!

Does anyone else have this problem? If so, contact me!

Alex Reijnierse
PTT Research, The Netherlands
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 18:50:10 -0500
From:         Scott.R.Barnett@CYBER.WIDENER.EDU
Subject:      Windows 3.1 vs Windows NT
X-To:         WIN3-L%UICVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu

Does  anyone out there know what extra Windows NT is going to be able to do?
I know you will need at least a 386sx with, I believe, 4 or 8meg of RAM, but
other than that will there  be any advantages to using NT instead of 3.1 to the
average user on a single machine and not a network?

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Date:         Wed, 15 Apr 1992 16:11:34 EDT
From:         "Harry M. Kriz" <KRIZ@VTVM1.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: TrueType Fonts

In response to the question about TTFONTS2.ZIP from WUARCHIVE's mirror
collection of CICA.CICA:

I have unzipped the file without problem, though I haven't tried to
install any of the fonts yet.

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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:05:30 EDT
From:         "Kris Beatty" <krisb@WESTFORD.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      Re: Jury Still Out
              03 Apr 92 12:25:00 -0500.
              <9204031232.aa06197@masscomp.westford.ccur.com>

Eric Webb,
	I have seen unix grow for the last 7 plus years since I have
been using it that long.  I have seen it constantly grow in size,
because of all the bells and whistles added (features). There is
a move to make it more modularized to make it better at decoupling
modules, but I see no way (in the near future) that we can go to
rom for unix even on PC's. You'll always have to customize your
enviroment to get the maximum performance with the lowest overhead.
Until they can come up with a version that will maximize both ROM and
NVRAM we can just sit back and wait until UNIX evolves some more.

Kris Beatty

PS: These are my comments and reflect in no way to the company
I work for.
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Date:         Sat, 18 Apr 1992 00:29:51 PDT
From:         b0506007@HP850S.NTU.EDU.TW
Subject:      Re: ATM-1.15
X-To:         Microsoft Windows Version 3 Forum
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> >       I have Adobe Type Manager 1.15 and I don't know is
>
> My advice would be to upgrade ATM to 2.0.
>
Thank you for your reply.
Would you please tell me how much ATM 2.0 is ?

	Drifter
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 14:55:00 EST
From:         CORRELL_1@CUCISA.BITNET

signon win3-l Tianying Shi
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 10:46:36 EDT
From:         Paul Schnake <paul@NEXT1.NLM.NIH.GOV.NLM.NIH.GOV>
Subject:      Please UNSUB me!
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Oh please, oh please Mr. List Manager (Tom C.) UNSUB me from this
list!  I've tied and tried, but to no avail.  The messages just won't
go away.

Thanks alot!

- Paul Schnake  (paul@next1.nlm.nih.gov)
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 09:15:40 EDT
From:         "Kris Beatty" <krisb@WESTFORD.CCUR.COM>
Subject:      Re: Microsoft deliveries
              02 Apr 92 23:28:47 -0700.
              <9204030134.aa24294@masscomp.westford.ccur.com>

My $.02 worth on UPS. I was waiting on a package for two weeks, when
I finally called to see if they really did ship my package. Well it
turned out that they did ship it and it way delivered at my house a
week ago. They asked me to check my back door which I never use. Well
it turned out that it was there and we had two snow storms inbetween
the delivery date and my finding the package. None the less the
packages were water soaked.  They use to deliver them to the front
door, but from what I here they were to much in the open so they started
putting them in the back. Makes sense to me, I think?

Kris Beatty
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Date:         Tue, 14 Apr 1992 09:33:00 EDT
From:         Michael Gordon <GORDONM@DENISON.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Win 3.1 upgrade

>
>I have a lot of applications in my program manager, using a 600x800
>trident video driver.  Will I have to rebuild my program manager, or will
>the upgrade continue to use my old trident drivers for the conversion.
>
>I FTP'd the new trident_win31.zip from  wuarchive.wustl.edu  and I am
>wondering when I should replace my old video drivers.  Any help would
>help my upgrade go smoother.
>
        I also use the trident 800x600 video driver. I haven't looked at the
new trident_win31 file, and am using the SVGA driver that came with 3.1. It
works quite well, though it only provides 16 colors. Unless you want 256
colors, you can stick with the supplied one.

Michael D. Gordon
gordonM@cc.denison.edu
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Date:         Mon, 6 Apr 1992 16:30:12 EDT
From:         Vic Gupta <GUPTAV@DUVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Wierdest undocumented feature in W4W.

Dear Netters:

Following is the strangest undocumented feature that I read some time ago:

Select Tools/Options from menu and switch on Paragraph Marks (checked).
Select Tools/Macro from menu and type in "spiff" in the box.
When the macro opens delete the top line (and the end of paragraph mark)
and the bottom line (and the end of paragraph mark).
Make sure you do not delete the middle end of paragraph mark.
Save the macro and select Help/About and click on the W4W logo.

Watch the merry making of the liliputians as the "Word for Windows crushes
the Word Perfect monster".

-Vic Gupta
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Date:         Mon, 13 Apr 1992 23:46:24 EST
From:         A056000 <A056@NMUMUS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Mouse Problems

Try cleaning your mouse to eliminate random jumpiness. . .it worked
for me.

Paul White
A056@NMUMUS
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Date:         Fri, 10 Apr 1992 08:51:45 CST
From:         Ron Kitchens <CCRONK@UMSVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: Reply to Reply to Re: TELNET HOST for DOS
              9 Apr 1992 10:09:50 EDT from <krisb@WESTFORD.CCUR.COM>

I think this thread has really gotten off track, if I understand the original
question.  The request was for a telnet _HOST_ for a pc.  If I am correct,
this means a program which will allow a remote login to the pc and the ability
to control the pc from this login.  I am interested in this functionality also.
(I did not include the text -- too many >>>>>>'s).  Thanks,
Ronald L. Kitchens
Bitnet:  CCRONK@UMSVM
internet:  ccronk@vm.cc.olemiss.edu
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Date:         Wed, 8 Apr 1992 14:32:00 EDT
From:         Alan Moen <ALAN@PS-MAIL.PASS.WAYNE.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Pigged off Microsoft User!
X-To:         WIN3-L%UICVM.BITNET@uga.cc.uga.edu

>I  have just  had  a  "PRIORITY UPGRADE  OFFER"  form  from Microsoft  to
>upgrade to Windows  3.1 for just 45  pounds - "a saving of  54 pounds" it
>says! Why is it, Microsoft, that here in Britain we have to pay 45 pounds
>whereas the States price is only 49 dollars???? I get a little tired of this
[...]

What is the current conversion between pounds and dollars??
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From: edwong@csa.bu.edu (Edward Wong)
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Subject: norton desktop 2.0
Date: 8 Apr 92 21:15:10 GMT
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Organization: Boston University

what exactly is new in norton desktop 2.0?
I am not sure if I want to buy it or not, you know it costs more than win
3.1 itself.  Also, does it support wordwrapping feature?
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Date:         Tue, 7 Apr 1992 00:10:00 PST
From:         "RNOIA@scuacc.scu.edu or RNOIA@scu.bitnet" <RNOIA@SCU.BITNET>
Subject:      Win 3.1 Hates Netroom (Help)

help!
i was using NETROOM to manage my ram for windows 3.0
but 3.1 has A COW dealing with it...
anyone have any ideas..
the Setup.txt file says that Netroom might cause a problem
with EARLIER verions.. but the one i have is the latest one
.. well.. they have sent me a product update saying there's a newer
one..
other than that.. it works pretty good.. but i still think that
Norton Desktop for windows 3.0 was a better improvement than
windows 3.0 to windows 3.1, afterall norton had drag and drop
a while ago!
roger :-).. ok i admit, norton doesn't come with the cool sounds.
speaking of that, anyone know of a good *.snd to *.wav converter?
thanks... rog
rnoia@scuacc.scu.edu
or rnoia@scu.bitnet
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Date:         Sun, 12 Apr 1992 23:49:47 MDT
From:         Manabu Asano <asano@XI.ULETH.CA>
Subject:      Logitech mouse driver in Win3.1
X-To:         win3-l@uicvm.uic.edu

Win 3.1 includes the updated Logitech mouse driver for DOS, but the
mouse does not work in the window-ed DOS Session.  Does anybody know if
Logitech released new mouse drivers for DOS and Windows 3.1?  Does
Logitech has BBS?  Any help are welcome.

asano@hg.uleth.ca
From: berglind@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi
Newsgroups: bit.listserv.win3-l
Subject: QCW & ATM strange behaviour
Date: 12 Apr 92 11:25:44 GMT
Organization: Nokia Telecommunications.

Quick-C Windows & Adobe Type Manager annoyance
==============================================
I have noticed a silly behaviour in QCW when ATM (v 2.0) is on.  
The status bar text gets garbled.  QCW seems to think the fonts are
non-proportional.  
This results in excess spaces between narrow letters, and wide letters
overlapping.  
If I turn off ATM, the status bar text is OK.  

Other applications (W4W 2.0, Excel, etc.), using a similar status
bar seems to work fine with ATM on. I use Windows 3.0

Anyone else noticed this? - Is there anything I can do?

Thanks in advance - lb

(Leif Berglind, berglind@tnclus.tele.nokia.fi)
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Date:         Thu, 9 Apr 1992 15:18:30 CST
From:         "Thomas D. Gasser" <THOMASG@EPX.HSCS.UMN.EDU>
Subject:      PDIPX Update! for Windows 3.1
X-To:         net-people@mail.unet.umn.edu, novell-group@mail.unet.umn.edu,
              novell@suvm.acs.syr.edu, win3-l@uicvm.uic.edu

Colin Cook (the author of PDIPX) has uploaded a new version of PDIPX.COM to
SUN.SOE.CLARKSON.EDU in the \submit directory.  The old version would not
work correctly under some instances with Windows 3.1.  The *.OBJ that came
with the original version would not recompile correctly.

This solves my problems and should help anyone with the same problem.
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