From: xu@toadflax.cs.ucdavis.edu (Hao Xu)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.china
Subject: Re: one coner of my Beijing life (follow-up to "red card" discussion)
Date: 15 Apr 92 20:01:53 GMT
Article-I.D.: ucdavis.12245
Reply-To: xu@toadflax.UUCP (Hao Xu)
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of California, Davis

Finally, Shannon tells us his story. But I still can't see anything that
supports Shannon's assertion: CCP tolerated his freedom of speech. Those
big professors were not only intellectuals but also party bosses. They
actually have no difference with those party bosses in factories and
farms. Does a 'small' professor has the power to screw up Shannon? On the
other hand, party bosses in factories and farms does screw up their
sunordinates if they dare to disobey.

So actually, it was someone as party boss not as professor screwing up
Shannon.

In article <29EB5FA9.132@noiro.acs.uci.edu> yeh@netix.com (Shannon Yeh) writes:
>I am an engineering boy with some sort of 
>style of an artist.

Nothing can be worse than combining the drawbacks of both engineering and
art. You lose both reality and beauty.

>I know how to engineer things, but I know more on 
>Hun\Xiang\/.

So you fabricated 6/4 blood card. How sensational!

>I am young, i am a boy,

I believe it.

>i am from a normal family, i am NOT
>Tai Zi Dang.

300 tales of silver? Who says you are?

>But, I did change something and did influence a group of silent 
>people. Some of them were wanted in 1989.

You are not telling me that Wuer was your student, are you?
And you asked your students to risk their life while you stay here safely.
Is this something called blood-teaching?

>As you may know, some so 
>called "big professors" at some big universities are totally shit and 
>Fan(food)Tong(can), no better than the big CCP guys at all.

Agreed. Actually they themselves ARE CCP guys. These guys like GuoMouRu,
QiangXueShen are nothing but CCP ass-kissers.

>Might be a 
>surpurise to you, during the trouble days, some CCP leaders even provided me 
>with protection (of course, on personal basis).

If you think it a superising, you are really YouZhi (naive).

>I made 
>lots of money while I was jobless!

Ahahaaaaaa, were you a GuanDao or a MingDao? :-)) Certainly you became
a WanYuanHu.

>When i came to the US in 1988, I was strong enough to screw them back,

I can't believe it. How can one screw others thousands of miles away?

>This has become a major 
>YiHan(regret) in my life. But Hou(late) Hui(meet) You(have) Qi(time).
> ......
>"without CCP, the Chinese will still keep fighting, just 
>like Taiwan, and maybe fight more".

Sure you are one of these fight-lover. And you are still HuanXiang-ing
to revenge those big professors someday.

>Living in this kind of fighting for almost two years, I started to re-think
>about the Chinese intellectures.  My conclusion is: you cannot give them
>power, you cannot give them too much trust, they are very WuLiao on many
>non-profitable, purposeless things.  They can fight to death while they 
>will never know on how to work together so that they can fight with their
>bigger enemies, such as CCP.  So, they can never Cheng/(become) Qi\Hou\.

Is this your new thinking? I consider them garbage from Mao's work. Anyway,
if this is your conclution, then why not change yourself first? Stop apologizing
for CCP and join the demoncratic force. You are certainly welcome.

>I still believe that, to change China, workers
>and farmers are the only forces we can live on.  The Chinese intellectures
>are NOT reliable.

One of the biggest problem among some Chinese intellectuals is that they
don't have confidence, they look down themselves. If one doesn't believe
oneself, what can s/he do? Shannon, remeber my words: no matter who you
depend on, you can achieve nothing.

>For example, after the 6.4 bloodshed, many Chinese 
>intellectures changed their attitudes and sold their colleagues/classmates.

Don't tell me only intellectuals did these. WanDang was sold by his aunt --
a common worker. Suffered and distorted by CCP for 40+ years, very few
Chinese can resist CCP's high pressure now. But compare to other groups,
Chinese intellectuals is still the group with the most determination to
against CCP's regime. Remember, it was Chinese intellectuals challenged
CCP in 1957 and 1989. Tell me when your workers and farms -- the force
you live on -- challenged CCP? Only a few workers followed students in
1989. Certainly, intellecutals is the leading force in the future to
overturn CCP's regime.

>But, 6.4 blood 
>abuse will definately not be appreciated.

A person who claimed it was students caused the killing is NOT entitled to
talk about 6/4! Those who merely applies for green card using this provision
is much better than those CCP ass-kissing apologists and fact-distorting liars!

Hao
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