HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: mbs@adastra.cvl.va.us (Michael B. Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: How Do I read NNTP'd News?
Distribution: comp
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16f (10.4.92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 6 Oct 92 06:14:02 EDT
Organization: Well, I haven't decided on a name yet...

In article <1992Oct5.102100.15246@vax5.cit.cornell.edu> s2z@vax5.cit.cornell.edu writes:
> I'm also looking to see about reading news offline.
> I use SLIP and can use NNTP to connect to the school's
> newsserver. So, what next.  I.E. when I tell NOS to "kick"
> it supposedly "gets" all the news articles of the groups I've
> specified with "NNTP groups xxx"  Now what do I do with them,
> or what can I read them with.

Write an AREXX script to split the messages into individual news articles.
And then read them.

> As well, would it not be more efficient to have a newsreader that
> connects to the newsserver on its own (let's say NOS is running in the
> background so the SLIP connection is configured and setup). It fetches
> the group names, and then when you choose a group name it fetches the article
> headers, and then when you select an article it fetches the article.
> THis is how the newsreaders I've used on the MAC work (like TheNews), and it
> seems more efficient than just plopping everything at once and having to wait
> all that time.  Is there anything like this, and/or anyone want to write this
> for the Amiga?  Nonethelss, my original question still stands...

Forget NOS. Unfortunately, AmigaNOS is not written in such a way that another
Amiga program can "request" a service from it. And it would be non-trivial to
make it work that way. NOS has a set of built-in services that you pretty much
have to use as is.

Now, if you want to dial up to a Unix site using DNet or straight serial, and
connect to an NNTP server, then GRn 1.16f will do what you want. It will allow
you to use the NNTP server exactly the way you've described.

But if you are forced to use SLIP, then I don't have a solution for you.

Available by the end of this week...
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From: rwm@atronx.OCUnix.On.Ca (Russell McOrmond)
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:52:41 EST
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: XPR libs
	<19h1ogINNa6g@armory.centerline.com>

ree88132@zach.fit.edu (Keith Ledig) writes:
>Could someone please tell me how to config my xpr lib for 
>escaping control characters.  When I xfer to my unix host it

   I don't think that this option is available in the current 'xprzmodem'
that is released.  If I have time myself at a later date (Unless someone
else has already done it), I will add it to the zmodem that I'm working on,
but that doesn't help you at the moment.  What you need is a FULL zmodem
library, and not the smaller protocol subset available in the current
xprzmodem.

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>Keith Ledig   ree88132@zach.fit.edu         [Tech-Forum BBS 407-722-4400]
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From: paulk@terapin.com (Paul Kienitz)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: QWK off-line message reader for Amiga?
Date: 6 Oct 92 11:19:29 PST
Organization: BBS

> Both are good .QWK mailreader (I prefer Q-Blue), with Q-Blue also
> handling BlueWave mail packets as well.  AQuick seems to handle the
> files a bit better (even if they are slightly corrupt)
 
Q-Blue 0.7 has known problems with certain marginally weird QWK
files, and QWKs with huge numbers of message areas ... all such
problems have been fixed for the forthcoming 0.8 release, which is
done now except for some of the fancier parts of the new string
search function.
From: DXB132@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: FAX software for class 1
Date: 30 Sep 92 13:50:50 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

What Amiga FAX software supports the class-1 faxmodem standard?
(Sorry if this has been asked too many times before :-))
Please post replies to this group.
Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:6680 comp.sys.amiga.graphics:6545
From: tommyi@Minsk.docs.uu.se (Tommy The King)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.graphics
Subject: Re: New Amiga Graphics BBS
Date: 5 Oct 92 14:14:45 GMT
Organization: DVL, Uppsala University
Reply-To: tommyi@minsk.docs.uu.se
NNTP-Posting-Host: minsk.docs.uu.se

dtiberio@csws18.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio) writes:

>                                  Coming Soon
>                 The Amiga Graphics Association of Long Island
>			       October 6th, 1992
>                              BBS  (516) 473-6351

>                         Supports 14,400 V.32bis Supra
>                       152 Megabytes of Hard Disk Space
>                            300 Megabytes Off Line

>                             Video Toaster Support
>                       Imagine and Lightwave 3D Objects
>                         24 bit Pictures and Brushmaps
>                          Soundtracker Music Modules

SO WHAT??
From: morcos@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nader Morcos)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Null-Modem to connect Amiga to PC
Date: 3 Oct 92 19:58:58 GMT
Reply-To: morcos@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Nader Morcos)
Organization: Universite de Montreal

Hey there folks, a few months ago there was some discussion about using a 
null-modem to connect an IBM PC to an Amiga. I believe the main reason was 
to use the hard disk on the IBM as a repository for Amiga files. Could 
anyone please let me know the specs for such a link and how difficult it is
to build or buy.

Thanks
From: lhotka@abel.incstar.com
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: ARexx programs with Handshake
Date: 1 Oct 92 12:59:05 GMT
Organization: Simpact Associates, San Diego CA

I have been trying to write an ARexx program using Handshake 2.20c which
captures some ascii text into a file.

The line

	call hs_receive('dl:USA.3')

gets quite upset and tells me it can't open the file (I get a requestor to
click on).

Has anyone successfully written an ARexx program for Handshake to capture text
into a file?  Thanks much!

 Rockford Lhotka                                INCSTAR Corp
 Systems Analyst                                1990 Industrial Blvd
 lhotka@incstar.com                             PO Box 285
 612/779-1701                                   Stillwater, MN 55082
           >>>Amiga - The computer for the creative mind<<<
From: ree88132@zach.fit.edu (Keith Ledig)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Amiga BBS's
Date: 28 Sep 92 20:48:35 GMT
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

I am looking for good a good BBS prg.  Please advise.
I would like to have Fidonet and newsgroups (i guess via UUCP)
I heard DLG is good, but I'm looking to make a fair comparrison
to all existing.

Keith

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From: starkg@helium (Gavin E Stark )
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: AmigaNOS:  How to create accounts?
Date: 5 Oct 92 00:52:11 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]



I have AmigaNOS all setup and working wonderfully here.  I can telnet and
ftp out and around the world.  The only problem is I haven't found a way
so that people can telnet and ftp back to me.  I have the


start telnet
start ftp

lines in my starup file but how do I create accounts (callsigns?) so that I
can access my machine/drive remotely?


Thanks for any help,
Gavin
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: dtiberio@csws18.ic.sunysb.edu (David Tiberio)
Subject: Re: Busy BBS
Organization: State University of New York at Stony Brook
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 07:55:14 GMT

In article <6826@blue.cis.pitt.edu.UUCP> rvmst1@gl.pitt.edu (Rainer V Mager) writes:
>Hi,
>	Does anyone know of a SMALL program that will sit around and
>answer the modem if a call comes in, give a short (a few lines) message,
>and then hang up.
>	I need such a thing for when my BBS is donw, for backup, or
>whatever.
>			Thanx,
>				Rainer
>

	Try MicroHost. I have it on my BBS somewhere. My number is
516f*-473-6351. Microhost is a small bbs with xmodem that lets you run
something for just a small group of people. It won't hang up on someone,
but it will be small, will display a message, and has a system password
instead of a 'Login new user' prompt, which means they can't snoop around 
without the system password.



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From: olsen@sourcery.mxm.sub.org (Olaf Barthel)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.misc
Subject: Re: The cause for Term problems? (was Re: Term 2.3 still has problems...)
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 29 Sep 92 11:50:46 CET
Organization: MXM Barthel & Paesler

In article <1992Sep27.032647.29759@polari> dwdyer@polari.online.com writes:
> jts@krk.fi (Janne Siren) writes:
> 
> >: It doesn't guru on my system.  Term v2.3 seems ROCK STEADY, never got a
> >: problem with it after a week on deep usage.
> 
> >But in my system, Software Failure appears everytime I click or try to snap
> >text from the Term screen. I had these problems with 2.2 version also. There's
> >some problems with Term's snap feature, in some machines it works, in some it
> >causes a guru, hmm.
> [...]
> 
> I downloaded the source code,  and I haven't yet bothered to do it, but I'm
> going to see if I can hack the snapping function out.  It's the nicest looking
> thing I've seen (although I hear the RSN update to JR-Comm will be very nice)
> and I"d like to use the #*&$ing thing, but...

   I finally found the cause for the crashes! As some users have reported
before, no crashes would occur if the WB 2.1 SetPatch was in effect. I did
not know what to make of it until I took a closer look at the patches
installed. To make a long story short, my gadtools interface code was broken.
It was mistaking the IDCMP_MOUSEMOVE events posted when the text selection
was made for events to be directed to a gadtools object. As there were no
objects to listen to it, the interface code ended up trashing random memory
locations.

>                  Wayne Dyer --- dwdyer@polari.online.com  

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Xref: sparky comp.sys.amiga.datacomm:6733 comp.sys.amiga.applications:7692
From: Maurizio_Fabiani@maui.sublink.org (Maurizio Fabiani)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.amiga.applications
Subject: Re: GPFAX UPGRADE to V2.04
Date: 3 Oct 92 17:24:37 GMT
Organization: Maui for Amiga - L'AQUILA - Italy
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith

> are THREE possible patch archives.
> 
> patchsupra         : for Supra versions 2.01 2.5.92
> patch920502        : for generic version 2.01 2nd May 1992
> patch920610        : for generic version 2.01 10th June 1992
> 
> These files are available from 
>         Supra BBS in the US,
>         AmigaNet sites worldwide and
>                 via file request from Maurizio Fabiani's system in
>                 Italy (File request is passworded with password 'greg')
>         Internet sites as soon as we get it there!

The names for File Request are:

GPFSUPRA.LZH for supra version
GPF0205.LZH  for generic version of 2.5.92
GPF0610.LZH  for generic version of 10.6.92

My node number is 2:335/602 and DON'T forget the password.....

Ciao
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     ///                        UUCP: !rutgers!sublink!maui!maurizio_fabiani
__  /// - Maurizio Fabiani -    FIDO: 2:335/602 (CM)
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Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
From: akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman)
Subject: DNet no go from HD
X-Disclaimer: All opinions expressed herein were sent to me telepathically
              by Elvis from Mars.
Reply-To: akerman@qucis.queensu.ca (Richard Akerman)
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Queens Univ., Kingston, Ontario, Can.
Date: Sat, 3 Oct 1992 04:35:52 GMT

DNet runs fine for me from floppy but won't bring up a niftyterm when I run
it from hard disk.  I think I read something about the term coming up too
fast to synchronize?

Is there some way to fix this?
From: snolan@postmaster@hq.af.mil (Scott D Nolan)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Address for JR-Comm
Date: 30 Sep 92 14:53:38 GMT
Reply-To: snolan@marge.hq.af.mil
Organization: 7th Communications Group

Can someone post or send me the US Mail Address I can write
to in order to get a registered version of JR-Comm?

I've heard that there is a BBS that Jack frequents in NJ,
the number would be nice also.

Thanks in advance,
Scott Nolan
snolan@marge.hq.af.mil
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From: jerry@marin.uucp (Jerry C. Hudgins)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: UUCP software
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: GRn 1.16e (7/4/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 6 Oct 92 22:36:15 EDT
Organization: Private UUCP Node

In article <Leon.09md@abcd.Houghton.MI.US> Leon@abcd.Houghton.MI.US (Leon) writes:
> In a message dated Sat  3 Oct 92 17:44, John@becca.rain.com (john Meissen)
> wrote:
> 
>  JM> Can anyone enlighten me as to the availability of UUCP/News/email
>  JM> software
>  JM> that runs on the PC?
> 
> ftp.uu.net has UUPC and another...  They're also available from my BBS... 
> UUPC has been around a while and is supposed to be good...  The other one I
> know nothing about but it is very new...  UUPC also has a OS/2 version...
> 
> If you can't find it anywhere else, my high speed (16K8 dual standard) is
> 906-482-8050...  Fidonet frequable are:
> 
> UUPC11QD.LZH           101527 Mail w/UUCP formatted DOS & OS/2 documents
> 
> UUPC11QR.LZH           179620 Mail w/UUCP required executables for DOS
> UUPC11QO.LZH           134958 Mail w/UUCP optional executables for DOS
> 
> UUPC11Q2.LZH           144997 Mail w/UUCP required executables for OS/2
> UUPC11Q3.LZH           119749 Mail w/UUCP optional executables for OS/2
> 
> FSUU13R1.LZH          1027256 UUCP Mail & Usenet News w/utils
> 
> \Leon

If you're running AmigaUUCP and BMS, you can also retrieve the DOS versions
of the files above from my system (seq.uncwil.edu!marin).  I also have some
additional things for UUPC, such as SNEWS, WMAIL, and PC ELM.

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From: root@hoftai.bison.mb.ca (Tahir Zia Khawaja)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: Supra Verification call for Sysop deal
Date: 27 Sep 92 15:58:50 CDT
Organization: House of TAI, Winnipeg, MB, CANADA   :   261-0581
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


: 
: Hello people,
: 
:    Just wondering.  I sent out for the Supra SysOp deal.  Now to other 
people 
: who have done similarly.  How long does it take for them usually to get 
back 
: to you with the verification call?  And do they leave a message informing 
the 
: sysop that the BBS was verified?
: 
:    You see I was away for a few days and my system crashed in the meanwhile.
  
: Now I am thinking what if they called during that time and got no answer?  
: Would they call back to try again?  Would they call me voice and tell me 
that 
: the bbs was not verified?
: 
: BYE and thanks in advance for the info.
: 
: 

Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,news.answers
From: billsey@nesbbx.rain.COM (Bill Seymour)
Subject: Re: A2000 & No. BBS lines
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Distribution: world
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: 2 Oct 92 19:03:20 PST
Organization: NESBBX Bulletin Board System

Hamish Tweedie (htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz) wrote:
:  For all you BBS Sysops out there, how many lines have you found you
: can sustain at 14.4K on an A2000 under WB2.0? If the figure is only one,
: then have you been able to add a second line at 9600 or 2400 baud and found
: the set up stable?

   We're running two lines at high speed on a stock 2000 with 3M memory and
2.04 at our users group. It uses the DigiFex MPB for the second serial, and
BBX for the software. No problems, or noticable slowdowns...

: |           ///    htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz  Bombora/Ross 780 sailor|
: | Taste    ///       OR tweedie_h@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz        | RZ350, R65,|
: |= Amiga  ///        OR tweedie@ivory.isor.vuw.ac.nz        | K75S rider.|
: |    \\\ /// "Computer programmers were put on Earth to make accountants |
: |     \XX//  look interesting!"   "Stretch yourself.........get morphed!"|
From: griffita@fraser.sfu.ca (David Stuart Griffiths)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: USR BBS #
Summary: Anyone know USR's BBS number?
Keywords: USR BBS NUMBER
Date: 1 Oct 92 23:55:08 GMT
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada

Does anyone happen to know USR's BBS number?  Had it written down, but
misplaced it.

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From: mjl@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Maurice J. LeBrun)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm,comp.sys.sgi
Subject: Re: Amiga DNET on SGI IRIX 4.0.1
Date: 4 Oct 92 04:43:35 GMT
Followup-To: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <1992Sep29.063316.7826@exucom.com> kjv@exucom.com (Karl J. Vesterling) writes:
>
>	Has anyone compiled Amiga Dnet on an SGI running IRIX (Of
>course)?? It seems that the main problems are with the IOCTLS...
>TERMIOGETC, or something like that...  It's been quite some time since
>I've tried to compile it...  Anyone have any suggestions, I'd really
>appreciate it...

Another system killed by the dreaded ioctls..

Also HPUX is not up to the task of compiling DNet, because of mediocre BSD
compatibility.  There was a lot of discussion a few months back on
comp.unix.amiga about a SVR4 port of DNet, eliminating all the BSD junk,
but I haven't heard anything since.  (I wish them luck..)

>	BTW, compiles just fine on BSD & SunOS...

Yup.

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From: dave@dogbox.acme.gen.nz
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: QWK off-line message reader for Amiga?
Date: Tue, 06 Oct 92 11:07:48 +1300
Organization: The Dawghaus BBS, Palmerston North, New Zealand (+64 6 357 9245)

jcm@daimi.aau.dk (Jens Christian Mikkelsen) writes:

> Does anyone know of a good off-line message reader for the Amiga, that will
> read message packets in the .QWK format?

Well, I have two:

        AQuick - by A.Westcott (sp)
        Q-Blue

Both are good .QWK mailreader (I prefer Q-Blue), with Q-Blue also 
handling BlueWave mail packets as well.  AQuick seems to handle the files 
a bit better (even if they are slightly corrupt), but it has it's 
limitations, in that it is a bit slow, and kludgy :)


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From: vidiot@cybernet.cse.fau.edu (Rankin Eric)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.datacomm
Subject: Re: A2000 & No. BBS lines
Date: 30 Sep 92 21:45:33 GMT
Organization: Cybernet BBS, Boca Raton, Florida

kprastin@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Ken Rastin) writes:

> In article <htweedie.04r7@madhat.actrix.gen.nz> htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz
> >
> >	For all you BBS Sysops out there, how many lines have you found you
> >can sustain at 14.4K on an A2000 under WB2.0? If the figure is only one,
> >then have you been able to add a second line at 9600 or 2400 baud and found
> >the set up stable?
> >
> >	Many thanks for your time.
> >
> >-- 
> >
> >|           ///    htweedie@madhat.actrix.gen.nz  Bombora/Ross 780 sailor|
> >| Taste    ///       OR tweedie_h@kosmos.wcc.govt.nz        | RZ350, R65,|
> >|= Amiga  ///        OR tweedie@ivory.isor.vuw.ac.nz        | K75S rider.|
> >|    \\\ /// "Computer programmers were put on Earth to make accountants |
> >|     \XX//  look interesting!"   "Stretch yourself.........get morphed!"|
> 
> Although I have not tried running 2 14.4k modems on an unexpanded A2000, I
> did find that 1 14.4k modem made things rather cludgy.  I run a 2 line BBS
> and found that with 2 users online (one at 14.4k and the other on my 2400 bua
> line) that the user at 2400 had to suffer quit a bit of jerkiness.  Especiall
> if the 14.4k user was uploading or downloading.
> 
> My opinion would be that an unexpanded system would be usable with a 14.4k
> and a 2400 baud.  2 14.4k seems to push it a bit.
> 
> The Land of the Darkside BBS 519-888-9869
> 2 nodes - 24 hours a day.  Latest Cnet Amiga Software!
> 

Well, I *THINK* the C-Net support BBS--FutureWorld--runs on an 
unaccelerated Amiga now...it used to be faster, but I thought I read he's 
using a 2000 now.

He has 1 14.4k and 3 2400 lines.  I usually have no trouble with speed 
when I call, and I have seen all on.

He had 2 14.4s at one point (one of them died).  I once was connected at 
14.4, the other line read 9600 and at least one 2400 was online...it was 
a bit sluggish.

I have NO trouble with 2 14.4k on my system, but its a 3000.

Eric