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South Lake Tahoe House/Cabin for Rent by owner:

DETAILS:

  - 4 BR/2 bath cabin/home in South Lake Tahoe
  - Convienent to Heavenly, Kirkwood, Sierra Ski Ranch & Casinos
  - Located in Tahoe Paradise (rural as opposed to in town) 
  - Ammenities include:
        - 7 Person jacuzzi hot tub (outside on the deck of course)
        - 1 King, 2 Queen, 3 twin and sleeper sofa
        - Forced air heater (modern house built in 1973)
        - Wood burning stove for that "rustic" feel (wood included)
        - Fully equiped kitchen with microwave, oven, refrig, coffee
          maker etc..
        - 2 TV's, Cable, VCR, Stereo, CD player
        - Telephone for local calls or calling card calls.

RATES:

  Special Midweek Rate - 2/1/93-6/1/93
    - $100 a night no minimum stay (sun through thursday only)

Normal Rates:

  Non Holiday
    - $125 a night or $750 for 7 nights 

  Holiday
    - $150 a night  

DEPOSIT:
  $300* refundable security deposit. (No children under 18, No Animals)
  (Additional security deposit required for children under 18 or Animals)

Pictures of the property and accommodations are available through the net 
in GIF format -- just ask! I can also fax additional information to you.

For Additional Information and booking, please contact:

  Doug Coatney 
  dcoatney@hpmpea2.cup.hp.com
  408-447-1927 (work)
  408-865-1480 (home)

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Note: All weekends from now through March are already booked. But there are
a large number of weekdays available before that, not to mention some 20' of
snow currently in the Sierra's to take advantage of! Besides, skiing midweek
means no crowds!
From: jo@siesoft.co.uk (Jo Baker)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: French holidays ?
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:16:45 GMT
Reply-To: jo@siesoft.co.uk
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.

Can someone please tell me when it is best to go skiing in France 
(Val d'Isere/Meribel/Avoriaz etc etc) i.e. when the French are not
all on holiday too ?   

Not that I've anything against the French - just an aversion to lift-queues.

Thanks in advance.

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Siemens Nixdorf, Oldbury,           |Tel:   +44 344 850450
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: steinman@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch (Jan Steinman - Bytesmiths, 3946)
Subject: Re: Please explain European Trail Colors
Reply-To: steinman@hslrswi.hasler.ascom.ch
Organization: Ascom Hasler AG
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 12:41:46 GMT

In article 726381693@phobos, djm@kbs.citri.edu.au (David Mills) writes:

>...The only runs you should avoid
>in Austria are those marked "Jungwald".  That means regenerating forest.  If
>you ski one of those, it is likely that you will get caught, and that you will
>lose your ticket.

And of course, everyone has seen the "Gefahr!" signs at the top of certain
runs. This is a corruption of the English "Go far", as it means a run that is
particularly delightful. :-)

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Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: thatcher@vcd.hp.com (Garen Thatcher)
Subject: Sundance Utah
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 14:05:06 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Can anyone tell me what has been done to improve Sundance over
the last couple of years? It has been a while and I have heard
that a new lift or two was added but would like to hear the details.

Thanks in advance.

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: wwalker@qualcomm.com (Bill Walker)
Subject: Re: Train to Winter Park
Followup-To: rec.skiing
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc.
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:45:18 GMT

In article <C0JsEF.MwC@usenet.ucs.indiana.edu>,
prange@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Henry Prange) wrote:
> 
> I took the train to WP once and, amazingly enough, I am going to do it again.
> We had a wreck before we got out of the suburbs. Power went down in the whole
> train so the crappers didn't work but we drank the bar car dry anyway. As
> we got underway again announcement came over the PA system "Attention Crew,
> prepare for manual dump"! The image was stunning.
> 
> Otherwise, the train was comfortable and the ride pleasant. Food was ok and
> the seats much, much better for sleeping that airplanes. The ride is 
> scheduled at less than 24 hrs if no mishaps occur (it seems they always do).
> The ride from Denver to WP is spectacular for scenery; fortunately much of
> the ride thru the plains happens in the dark.
> 
> I am not sure what it costs since I go with a group.. call Amtrak? The ride
> back omitted the wreck but we did have a train robbery that stopped us for
> few hours again. Overall, I like trains and it was pleasant to have the time
> to sit and read and have time to nap. 
> 
> I can put you in touch with the people who run our trip. We are leaving on
> 13 Feb. The cost is something like $700 and includes condo, food, lifts and
> the train adventure. I think there may be a few slots left. (the cost is for
> Rt from Bloomington, IN., probably cheaper if you get on in Chicago)

I think the original poster was looking for info on the weekend Ski Train
that runs only between Denver's Union Station and Winter Park, not an
Amtrak run from another state that stops in WP.  All I know about the Ski
Train is that exists, and that you have to buy your tickets in advance
because it fills up fast (we tried to take it once, but were too late).

----------
Bill Walker - WWalker@qualcomm.com - QUALCOMM, Inc., San Diego, CA
All opinions expressed are mine, and do not reflect those of my employer.
"First thing we do, we kill all the lawyers." - Shakespeare
From: bozek@ecs.umass.edu
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: skiing in Massachsetts (Western)
Date: 8 Jan 93 15:11:28 GMT

     Wachsett Mountain isn't in the western part of the state.

Two nights ago a friend was there and said it solid ice.
plus there was a chair down, so there might have been
some better conds on those slopes

Supposidly, Jimminy Peak is holding up okay. Still,
this is the north east. Berskshire East usually has the
best mogals, but it's all ice everywhere around here.
Otis had 4 feet of snow from the last 2 big storms, but
there are bare spots on the grond now.

From boston the trip would be more than 2 hours.

Unless we get some snow, Head North. It's just as
far. 
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: terence robert slywka <tslywka@silver.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Wanted info about working at resorts
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 03:04:14 GMT

I am interested in getting info about working at ski resorts.  If anyone out there has done this could you please contact me.  How did you land the job?  Do resorts
hire throughout the season or just at the start?  What is the experience like?

Any help in answering these questions would be greatly appreciated...

Thanks in advance,

Terence Slywka

Interent:  TSLYWKA@UCS.INDIANA.EDU
Bitnet:  TSLYWKA@IUBACS

Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: fox@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Darin Fox)
Subject: Re: midwest skiing
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:47:16 GMT

lkibben@portal.hq.videocart.com (Laura Kibben) writes:

>Hi all -

>I'm in Chicago....where can I ski?  I moved here from Aspen, and to Aspen from 
>the north east where I learned to ski as a youngin' on Whiteface.  I only get
>away two-three times a winter to ski out west, and, as you know, it ain't 
>enough! I gave Wisconsin a chance the winter before last and, well, there's 
>got to be more!

>I've heard of bigger and better things in Michigan....does anyone know

If you don't already know about this...you should check out a book called
the White Book of Ski Areas.  It comes out every year and you can get it
at your local public library.  It gives descriptions of all ski areas, even
the very small ones in the midwest.  According to the White Book, there are
a couple "mountains" on the Upper Peninsula of Michigan, but they aren't
any bigger than Spirit Mountain near Superior, WI.  Vertical drop of about
700 ft.

I'm stuck in Champaign, and I miss Winter Park!

Darin
From: gt3930b@prism.gatech.EDU (steve)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Raichle ski boots for sale
Keywords: Raichle Flexon Pro downhill boots
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:33:39 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

Ski boots for sale:

Raichle Flexon Pro's (front entry boots)
Mens size 10 (really about 9.5)
red shell w/ white
skied in about 20 days, nylon at top of boot cuff is peeling (cosmetic)

I'm asking $60.  I'll consider some sort of trade for a pair of 
adjustable length ski poles (i.e. telemark poles).  E-mail me at:

	Steve Nichols
	gt3930b@hydra.gatech.edu
From: glenb@hpnmdla.sr.hp.com (Glen Baker)
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 16:14:15 GMT
Subject: rec.skiing FAQ 04/16 Clothing
Organization: Toyz R. Me
From: smmyers@foghorn.srv.pacbell.com (Sean Myers)
Subject: Re: Ammendment 2 and skiing
Organization: Pacific Bell OSSEM
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 16:42:57 GMT

In article <IfGjHzj0BwyOBgn_B1@transarc.com>, Ward_Travis@transarc.com writes:
|> dbernard writes:
|> 
|> > Incidentally, the boycott seems a moot point, since I believe Colorado
|> > ski resort business is up something like 20% this year?
|> 
|> I'll bite. Where did you see that? Can you support this claim?
|> 
|> --
|> Ward C. Travis		Pittsburgh PA	"The fact is the sweetest dream that
|> travis@transarc.com	(412) 338 4388	       labor knows."  - R. Frost


     I saw this on the news myself.  Resort business is up in Colorado, although they didn't mention why.


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Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.restaurants
From: pki@ipsa.reuter.com (Chris Bonyun)
Subject: Buffalo, Elicottville, Skiing, Eating, Drinking
Organization: Reuters Information Services (Canada) Ltd., Toronto, Ontario
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:49:41 GMT

I'm going to Elicottville to ski this weekend, and would appreciate any
information on good places to eat and/or drink, or any kind of background
on the area that might be helpful to someone who has never been.

On the way back we'll be stopping in Buffalo to watch the Bills-Dolphins
game.  Can anyone recommend a good, atmospheric place that serves heaps
of spicey chickens wings and frothy pitchers of beer?

Thanks.   /Phil
From: dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM (Dave Bernard)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Ammendment 2 and skiing
Date: 6 Jan 1993 16:42:17 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: dbernard@clesun.Central.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: clesun.central.sun.com

In article B1@transarc.com, Ward_Travis@transarc.com () writes:
>dbernard writes:
>
>> Incidentally, the boycott seems a moot point, since I believe Colorado
>> ski resort business is up something like 20% this year?
>
>I'll bite. Where did you see that? Can you support this claim?
>
>--
>Ward C. Travis		Pittsburgh PA	"The fact is the sweetest dream that
>travis@transarc.com	(412) 338 4388	       labor knows."  - R. Frost


It's not a claim, and I don't care enough to support it.  I hedged when I 
stated it, and did so as a question.  I heard it on the news on the radio a
few days ago.

To get real figures, your best bet is to call the Vail or Aspen Chambers of
Commerce or PR departments, and get it from the horse's mouth.  When you do,
could you please post the figures here so that all could see the real scoop?

	Dave
From: newcomb@aero.org (Robert W. Newcomb)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Park City recommendations?
Date: 7 Jan 1993 18:05:37 GMT
Organization: The Aerospace Corporation
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: uniblab.aero.org

In article <wwalker-060193141056@bwalker.qualcomm.com> wwalker@qualcomm.com (Bill Walker) writes:
>I'm going to Park City next weekend for 3 days, and I was wondering if
>anybody had any recommedations to offer on restaurants, or any skiing tips
>(e.g., "must do"s or "must avoid"s).  Re the latter, I'm an expert and my
>wife is a strong intermediate.  Thanks!

Try ski jumping at the Bear Hollow ski jump facility - both of you.  It's
great!  It's also surprisingly easy and safe.
-- 
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Robert W. Newcomb
The Aerospace Corporation
newcomb@aerospace.aero.org                                     My opinions, etc.
Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.photo
From: bgohari@wam.umd.edu (Babak Gohari)
Subject: Re: Help photographing in snow
Keywords: photography, lighting, skiing
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 17:03:07 GMT

I don't think anyone has mentioned this yet, but check out the current issue
of POWDER magazine.  It's their annual photo issue, and they have a section
of 101 useful things to know to photograph skiing (although half of them
are really worthless, but funny things, the other half is pretty good).  Also,
they have a lot of neat shots, and just like actual skiing, you can learn a
lot by watching the work of others.

-Bob
From: ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu (Wm. L. Ranck)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: About boots and blisters?
Date: 6 Jan 93 14:47:28 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]


Hello folks,
   I have been learning to ski over the past few years and I have a problem
with boots.  I have been using rental equipment and I always seem to get
blisters from the boots on the inside of my legs.  i.e. just above the
ankle on the part of my legs that face each other. 
   I have been thinking of getting my own boots because my feet are an
odd size and rentals are always a compromise fit, but these blisters on
my legs are a real problem.  What do I need to look for in boots to 
prevent this?  As for the odd size mentioned, I wear 7-1/2 EEE shoes.
For rental boots I usually get 8-1/2 boots and they seem OK except for the
rubbing on the leg, and I usually have them clamped tight.
   Any helpful hints?  Thanks.

--

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* Bill Ranck                                          ranck@joesbar.cc.vt.edu *
* Computing Center at Virginia Tech, not Vermont ----------------------^^     *
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Newsgroups: rec.skiing,rec.travel,nyx.misc,du.general,bit.list,co.general
From: eugene@wilbur.nas.nasa.gov (Eugene N. Miya)
Subject: Re: Colorado Ski Report
Followup-To: co.general,rec.skiing,rec.travel,nyx.misc,du.general
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 19:50:57 GMT

Geez, you guys made Nightline(tm) last evening......

Amazing poll saying that most CO residents would not change their vote.

1) Did you have to use some many news groups?  Please learn to use follow-up
lines.  Hey, I'll remove one group, but learn how to use headers and don't
cross-post so much.

2) The First Amendment protects your right to say and discuss what you please
in rec.skiing.  Sure this is kind a skiing relevant.

Clearly the way to solve this is have someone write an FAQ on
politico-economic controversies of schussing.  That way dumb comments like
> Please, everyone go to Ootah...
don't get the follow on flames of the "abortion" boycott [I just had lunch
with the woman who first posted this....] and similar post controveries like
 Ski Bagdad.	# I enjoyed this one.
 Ski Serbia....
It can be posted once a month, every reader sees them, etc.  Then every one
can point and say, "Read that..."  Otherwise, we can have
rec.skiing.boycott.your-favorite-state-here proposed.
Send you draft controversial FAQs to Baker.....

From: smith@dallas.jsc.nasa.gov
>Obviously the spirit that guides you is not the Holy Spirit.  
>No self-respecting Christian would openly support a life style such
>as homosexuality. 

Something happened to forgiveness and tolerance?  The above is not the
Christianity I know.  Loving caring God?

In article <1993Jan6.233829.17971@colorado.edu>
maman@boulder.Colorado.EDU writes:
>What about religious beliefs then?

A curious question actually.  It might take the Usenet to the Supreme Court
(probably not).  Something having to do in the US about the separation
of church-and-state and computers funded by public money (*.gov and *.edu
sites).  A few people have broached this in the open press, but like the
holiday ornaments in public places, those machines covered US law have
an interesting future.......

Test cases anyone?

--eugene miya, NASA Ames Research Center, eugene@orville.nas.nasa.gov
  Associate Editor, Software and Publication Reviews
  Scientific Programming
  {uunet,mailrus,other gateways}!ames!eugene
Seeking Books to buy:	Bongard, Pattern Recognition
			3 down 1 to go.
From: hudgens@enh.nist.gov
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Utah Road Conditions????
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:54:06 GMT
Organization: NIST

I'm hearing unbelievable stories of the snowfall in Utah and as luck
would have it, I'll be staying in Salt Lake starting Wednesday and 
skiing whereever.  Any bets on the canyons being open by then for
"unchained" rental cars?  

I had also considered running over to SNowbasin. What's the current status of
the roads and Snowbasin's operation?

Thanks for any info.

Jeff Hudgens
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
From: jason@Utah.Univel.COM (Jason S. Ehrhart)
Subject: Snow, Snow, snow....
Keywords: snow-snow-snow
Reply-To: jason@univel.com
Organization: Univel
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:16:49 GMT

Following up what Brian mentioned earlier, with some more details:

Little and Big Cottonwood Canyons are closed because they have not
received this much snow since they've begun controlling those
canyons. There are no recoiless snow weapons in places to shoot the
lower sections of those canyons, so the roads are _closed_ until
further notice. Also, because there is so much, they'll have to use
helicopters to drop the charges so the canyons won't be open until
they can fly a chooper up there for the control work. (I got this
from some folks who are currently at the _extreme interlodge_ condition
up there, not only can noone leave the buildings until the control 
work is done they have to go to the fatherest lowest part of the
building they are in (at least for the private homes up there)... 
So, nobody is skiing right now. Probabily won't for the rest of the
day. At  my house at the mouth of the canyon, there is like 4.5' on
the ground, I have huge piles of snow (>7' of snow) at the end of my
driveway.

Here's another tidbit from Little Cottonwood Canyon's Central
Dispatch (at Alta) Grizzly Gultch had a > 10' slab come down and
blow six cars away. (I know of an Alta patroller whose brand new
Acura Ledgend is now 2.5' shorter, he's a little upset today)
Another friend was watching as an avalanche from chute 69 (above
Hellgate) came within 200 yards of his house. 

More from the canyons, yesterday while they were shooting the top of
Little Cottonwood Canyon, they almost hit some snowboarders who'd
hiked and camped up there the night before, seems the boarders didn't
understand that the canyons get shot down around 5am and so when the
Snow Rangers were shooting the shreaders had to take cover. Later when 
they came down, (as soon as it was light out) the Snow Rangers were
horrified to see them rippin' down from the top of the ridge.

At Alta yesterday, it was bottomless, they only had Germainia open
and only the Traverse was open for skiing. It was snowing so heavy
at times that your tracks would be burried before you could get back
up to the top of the lift. I was told that the base is now over
130", and they have roped off under the Germainia lift so people
skiing down there don't get hit with skis dangling from the chair.

This is awesome. 

-- 
jason ehrhart jason@univel.com
univel
280 west 10200 south		Perspective, use it or lose it.
sandy, ut, 84070   (801) 568-8529
From: rmandel@bu.edu (Richard Mandel)
Newsgroups: rec.skiing
Subject: Re: Skiing in Massachusetts?
Date: 8 Jan 93 14:20:15 GMT
Distribution: usa
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5

Hemanshu Patel (hempatel@gandalf.rutgers.edu) wrote:
: 
: 	I am planning to be in the Massachusetts area for the weekend
: 	of 1/14-1/18 and was wondering how the skiing is in the general 
: 	area. I will probably be staying somewhere in Boston but really
: 	don't mind driving out to the western part of the state. Any 
: 	advice or suggestions would be appreciated. Thanx...
: 
: 	Hemanshu

If you want decent downhill skiing you are better off going north
to New Hampshire.  In approximately two hours time you can be at
Waterville Valley or Loon Mountain.  If you are interested in 
cross country skiing, it depends on the conditions.  If there is
snow locally see previous posting about Lincoln.
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From: avdh@dazixco.ingr.com (Alain van der Heide)
Subject: Re: Free Volkls! (and a Look bitch)
Reply-To: avdh@dazixco.ingr.com
Organization: Integraph - Boulder
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 16:44:29 GMT

In article 22099@voodoo.ca.boeing.com, jdt@voodoo.ca.boeing.com (Jim Tomlinson) writes:
> [RE Look bindings]
>When I took them in to have the rods
>replaced, the shop guy said "we don't have those parts; Look doesn't
>make money selling parts, they just sell bindings".  Obviously this was
>BS;  I'm sure the guy had some in the back but hoped to sell new
>bindings. 

It might not be.  I used Look clipless pedals on my bike.  When I needed to
replace the release springs and bearings, my local bike shop was happy to
order the parts.  It took them over four months of constantly pestering the
Look rep. to get the bearings, and Look informed them it would probably take
at least a couple more for the springs.  I've talked to people at other bike
shops, and at least as of last year, Look was notorious for making it
difficult to get repair parts.  It wouldn't surprise me if the same held true
for ski bindings.

Now I use Look compatible Shimanos...


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