From: jfisher@NETXWEST.COM (Jonathan Fisher)
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Subject: Re: Words
Date: 18 Nov 92 18:47:31 GMT
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>
> While under delusions of grandeur, Jonathan Fisher spewed:
This was polite.
>
> [Early discussion of Bruce H. = facist deleted]
>
> | Certainly I exaggerate.  In fact, aside from homosexuality there has never
> | really been a hint of facism in Herschenson.
>
>         Could you tell me his positions on homosexuals?
I think he wants to shoot them! (no. just kidding, probably).
>
> | Here are some of Herscheson's beliefs:
> | 1)      Increase military spending
> | 2)      Abolish Social Security
> | 3)      Abolish just about every government office
> | 4)      Constitutional Amendment to ban abortion
> | 5)      Off-shore oil drilling.
> | 6)     Guns into everyone's hands (if people in LA had easier access to
 guns,
> |         the riots wouldn't have happened)
>
>         Not being a Californian, I certainly don't know all his
> positions,
But still you seek to talk like someone who knows something.

 but these seems like misinterpratation. Having heard Bruce
> on various programs (Nightline, C-Span, PBS, etc), I see him as a
> Reagan Liberterian. One sounds like a Reagan like statement. The rest
> sound vaguely liberterian. I will explain. 2) should be part of 3.
> Bruce does not feel that the Federal Gov't should be interfering with
> the States. Actually, he isn't a liberterian, he's a strict
> Constitutionalist. Anyway, I digress.
He certainly does have libertarian views.  Except when it comes to social
issues then he feel that the more government involvement the better.  Oh
and don't forget the military.  The libertarians (there are some on this
list who can explain better) believe that the armed forces should be just
enough to protect this country, Herschenson believes that USA ought to
intervene in just about any country.  And sorry not even Reagan believes
that at this point in our history military spending ought to INCREASE.
>
>         4 is a misrepresentation. Bruce does not feel that Abortion
> should be made legal on a federal level, and that states should be
> able to make decisions as to whether or not it should be legal without
> interference. Thus, He (as far as I know) has never advocated a
> Constitutional Amendment banning abortion, although he personally does
> not like abortion. (And would probably be a leader to make it illegal
> in California).
Believe what you want.  I have heard him say that he is in favor of
an amendment.
>
>         I'm not sure where 5 fits in. I have little problem with off
> shore drilling if it is done safely. (Although we really should be
> using alternate forms of energy).
He said that he wants to drive his car to the coast to see the oil-drilling
platforms.
>
>         As for 6, I figure (not having heard him expouse any opinions
> on it) that He does not want any time limits, or guns banned. Whether
> or not that equates with Lets put a gun in everyone's hands is up to
> each individual person. (Again, I think this fits with a strict
> reading of the Constitution).
A lot of constitutional authorities will disagree with you.  I wouldn't
be surprised to find that Herschenson hasn't read the constitution.  As for
his pro-gun position, let's just say that I find it scary.
>
> --
>  Cousin It                                          cuz@cs.brandeis.edu
> "I can't believe I find a way, to make it thru this hell everyday, slip,
>    slipping my reality slips away, sleep, sleeping seems the only way"
>                        -Mordred  "Falling Away"-
>
I think that the problem here is that you heard him once.  Herschenson spent
16 years (+ or -) on talk radio (maybe TV too).  He presents himself well.
So it is not surprising that you and over 40% of Californians were sucked
into his web.  The fact is that an unbiased examination of all of Herschenson`s
beliefs would make even you decide that he is too far right.  I admit that
I stopped listening to him early because my mind was made up.  But I didn't
stop soon enough to be disgusted by his beliefs.

Jonathan
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