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From: jwelnak@xraylith.wisc.edu (John Welnak)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Other 24th Century TV Shows
Date: 27 Jul 92 14:51:15 GMT
Organization: Center for X-ray Lithography, UW-Madison

In article <memo.542802@cix.compulink.co.uk> ilaskey@cix.compulink.co.uk writes:
>Logans run is ancient. It was originally a film starring Michael York &
>Jenny Agutter (drool). The TV series was an unsuccessful spin-off made in
>the mid '70's AFAICR.

ancient?!?!?! some of us old timers were around then, you know...


>
>It was based on the old idea of a civilisation that requires adults to be 
>terminated at a given age. In the case of LR it was about 30 I think. 


the book and the movie were different, but in the book each person went
through 3 "phases". remember the crystals in their hands? each phase was
a different color crystal. the phase lasted 7 years. so at 21 you would be
killed.


>Logan was a Sandman. Sandman were sent out to track down and kill anyone
>that tried to get away with their ritual death. In the film however,
>after Logan was sent out to  catch one, he got caught up in the
>idea of 'sanctury' - a place where you could live for ever. He then
>tried to get there with the help of the escapee. They found an old man
>(ie a lot older than 30) that proved it must exist. He then returned
>with the old man to the city to prove that death wasn't necessary.
>End of film with lots of peope staring at the old man wondering
>what he was etc.
>
>The TV series carried on with the search for sanctury.

at the end of the book, they found sanctuary. they took off in a rocket.


>
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: u910779@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au (Rob Torok)
Subject: Wanted: Season 3 in PAL
Organization: University of Tasmania, Australia.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 01:33:27 GMT


Would anyone in the UK be able to send me copies of the season 3 episodes?

Where I live, TNG has never been seen, and although I have managed to get a
good spread of episodes, this season has continued to elude me.

BTW, I have some episodes from season 4 & 5 in PAL, if you're interested in a
swap.  (-:   Otherwise I'll send a money order.

E-mail me at: u910779@bruny.cc.utas.edu.au

Please help a starving ST fan,
Rob Torok
From: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: shatner proposes idea
Date: 30 Jul 92 22:05:24 EST
Reply-To: "bernie wong" <bernie.wong@canrem.com>
Distribution: rec
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

>The only "A" I've given out all year is not something I'd call a joke.

>But then, given that you're the only poster I have a 100% record
>of disagreeing with, this is nothing surprising (admittedly,
>"BR" wasn't aimed at children either.)

I find that VERY hard to believe!  I'm the ONLY one who disagrees with
you 100% of the time?  Come on...  Atsushi Kanorami (sp?), the ultimate
critisist of all of TNG, the be all and end all of reviews, only has ONE
constant complainer?  I find THAT hard to believe!  :-)

Oh, and by the way, I really should flame you for that last line.  I
expected better of you.

"BR" was disappointing, I'll just say that.  I can't understand how you
can like that kind of film but put down so much work put into ever TNG
episode.  "BR" was hyped up too much and turned out to be, well,
unrealistic.


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From: Armin_Moenkebuescher@un.maus.de (Armin Moenkebuescher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Star Trek in Germany
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 13:25:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

eric_gorr@coglab_psych.uoregon.edu am Fr, 24.07.92 00:27 in TREK.ENG
>Does anyone know if they are showing star trek in Germany?
>If so, the station and channel location would be appreciated...
No problem.
Star Trek:  Every saturday and sunday at 13.35 on channel         SAT 1
The german name of Star Trek is "Raumschiff Enterprise"

Star Trek: The next generation: Every friday at 16.05 on channel  ZDF
The german name of Star Trek TNG is: "Raumschiff Enterprise - Das
naechste Jahrhundert"
You can receive both channels in whole of Germany.

Bye

Armin
From: murphy@npri6.npri.com (David P. Murphy)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Ideas on how to cure the "Wesley Problem"
Date: 29 Jul 92 03:44:10 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: NPRI, Alexandria VA


 >Weasel Crusher Depth Measurement Instructions:
 >
 >1) Take glass of water
 >2) Spill on countertop
 >3) Measure depth
 >
 >Depth of water = Depth of Wes Crusher
 >
 >"We're in StarFleet, we don't lie"
 >The punk should be doing push-ups on the concrete at StarFleet  Minimum
 >Security Facility for gross negligence, conspiracy, and manslaughter.    
 >Now that would have depth.  "Next week, on an all new Episode of ST:TNG... 
 >Wesley Crusher tries to take a shower.  
 >(Show Picard talking through a force wall): 'Don't bend
 >over for the sonic cleaner, Wes.  Here's a pack of Marlboros. '"
 >
 >Jon (jmhodapp@aplcomm.jhuapl.edu)

nice post, jon, but don't forget the part where the top brass at StarFleet
(motto: We Don't Lie, We're Diplomats) garnishees the weasel's wages
for the next 3,141,592 stardates or so to pay for the five spaceships
that the Nova Squadron (motto: Back Off, We're Worshipped By Cadets) totalled.

ok
dpm
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: noel@umbc1.umbc.edu
Subject: A silly Top 10 List
Organization: University of Maryland Baltimore County
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 02:43:18 GMT

	Well, this week I almost forgot to post and its been a rough week.  But 
don't worry, I'll make it up my making August TIME'S ARROW SILLY TOP 10 LIST 
MONTH.  That's right, a month's worth of Top 10 lists for the cliffhanger.  But 
fro now...

TOP 10 REASONS I POSTED LATE

10.  The Borg assimilated my PC

9.  0I was captured by Romulians--lukcy it was Sela which made escape easier

8.  An energy being posessed my body and made me drive it to the beach

7.  I've been caught in a causality loop since Tuesday

6.  An alien probe made me live someone else's life all day, sorry

5.  Had to stay at the state inspection site until my car passed its
    dechyon, tachyon, and positronic emissions tests

4.  I've been out of phase--whenever I tried to type my fingers went through   
    the keyboard

3.  Was driving home when I got hit by the U.S.S. Bozeman

2.  I've been sick the Cardassian Flu

and the number one reason I posted late

1.  I forgot (honest!)

Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: dave@gergo.tamu.edu (Dave Martin)
Subject: Re: Scotty in ST:TNG season 6 episodes???
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Geochemical & Environmental Research Group, Texas A&M University
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 12:54:00 GMT

In article <5792@ucru2.ucr.edu>, judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes...
>I thought that the admiral was supposed to be Dr. McCoy.  I also read in an
>earlier post that the name was never mentioned, thus it could be anyone.  But
>I would think that it would be Dr. McCoy because he had the same personality.

The name was not mentioned because it was not necessary to do so. Everyone
knew it was DeForest under that makeup (what little of it was makeup ;) and
knows that he is McCoy. Add to that the obviously McCoy-ish personality,
including the standard McCoy-isms regarding ears and Vulcans and scattered
atoms, and there is no doubt that it is McCoy. Now, the only thing they
should explain is how his accent became even more "down South in Dixie" as
he aged. :) 

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From: Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: The Final Reflection (was HELP
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 00:08:00 GMT
Organization: MausNet
X-Gateway: MausGate/News 1.11

Shacha Windsor!

[wam] Well, I thought it was new in that we have the entire novel from the
      Klingon's point of view; we see (one author's) ideas about how the
      Klingon culture and the Klingon mind operates.

There you hit one point, that always disturb me especially with German fans:
For them, it is not just one point of view, one author's idea, and if I
oppose, they won't even listen.
In this case, I couldn't follow the author. I read a review of it, stating
"And now we know, what the Klingon's do." - Do we?

[wam] We almost *always* see Kirk and Co., or Picard and Co., solving
      problems.  Why not see Captain Krenn of the Klingons or
      (hypothetically) Captain Thalor of the Federation?  We have no basis

Yes, interesting ... but not to this extent. In a Star-Trek-novel I usually
feel at home. And not all of them are obvious. That's another thing, that
I look for, some real nice surprises. In this one there was nothing surprising
for me, just boring. But: These are =my= thoughts on that, and I know a lot
of people, who liked it.

Oyori - Sem [from Northern Germany]
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: NCC1-1701A model with lights & sound?
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 21:01:52 GMT

jasonl@gagme.chi.il.us (A Conrad Bain Wanna-Be) writes:
>In article <1992Jul19.200822.11926@javelin.sim.es.com> blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com writes:

>:>I recently saw a model kit of the NCC1-1701A that includes lights and
>:>sound. If anyone has built this one, I'd appreciate hearing what you
>:>think of the quality of the effects. Are the sounds something close the
>:>the "real" thing, or just random beeps?

> Throw some batteries in it, cause you're in for a
>pleasant surprise--the sounds it produces are the real TOS phaser and torpedo
>effects (albeit sampled at low frequency).

I bought it a couple of days ago, and agree with you on the sounds. They
are close to the real effects, but with AM radio quality.

>  Although I don't think the lighting
>is sufficient.  I'll be adding a few more lamps and LEDs to mine.

Ditto. I plan to use fiber optics and LEDs to light up all the running
lights, phasers, photon tubes, etc. I like your idea of slaving the
weapon lights to the sounds.

And for those that were wondering where to get it, it's a standard kit
from AMT, the folks that make all the Star trek model kits. I got mine
for about $28 at the local department store.
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Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu (Matthew Gertz)
Subject: Re: WHO IS HOTTER? TROI, CRUSHER, OR GUININ?
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 22:02:20 GMT
Organization: Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute, Carnegie Mellon

[All sorts of fawning and drooling deleted.]

With all the names of female characters flying across this subject, I have
to wonder:  Are there any woman portrayed in TNG who *aren't* physically
attractive to the masses?  Other than elderly matriarchs and the like?

I am *NOT* trying to start a new thread on unattractive females in TNG
(although, sad to say, someone no doubt will follow up on it anyway).  My
point is this:  it seems that by the 24th century all women in the entire
galaxy have evolved into models.  Granted, it's TV, but it seems that
"attractive" for males and "attractive" for females are two entirely different
things in TNG.  Unfortunate, since in "real life" (whatever that is) it's
often the departure from the ordinary that defines attractiveness.  

The male characters in TNG seem to be "attractive" due to their voice, or lack
of hair, or prominent nose:  mostly head/facial characteristics, and often 
those which seem to express "personality."  The comments about the TNG
women seem, for the most part, oriented about 12 inches lower, not what
someone would normally call a "personality" area.  If anything, it's a
"forget the personality and look at those!" area.  (Notable exceptions being
Troi, whom some despise for her personality, and Crusher, who generally
gets a token "all that and brains, too!" comment in the posts about her.)

Okay, it's not like I'm just finding out that there's a double-standard
in TV.  But when a producer creates a wonderful series, and includes dynamic
female characters, and yet the most-heard comment about the series has nothing
to do with the stories at all but instead about the mammary glands of the
actresses, I have to wonder if the-powers-that-be are doing their job in
presenting the stories as *stories*, and not as a 45 minute-long fashion
show.

-- 
Matt Gertz, mwgertz+@cs.cmu.edu
Dept. of ECE, The Robotics Institute at Carnegie Mellon University.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: mehr@oskar.uchicago.edu (David Mehringer)
Subject: Re: The new season start date is...
Organization: Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 07:08:18 GMT

In article <3683@vidiot.UUCP> brown@vidiot.UUCP (Vidiot) writes:
>In article <1992Jul21.232347.23422@usenet.ins.cwru.edu> bz978@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles E Gibbs) writes:
><
><The TENTATIVE season start date is the week of Sept. 21 - 27.  I know
><I posted this same message not that long ago.
>
>What is tentative about it?  Do you know something that the rest of us don't
>know, like when the end of the fifth season comes about that the next week
>will not be the beginning of the new season?

Oh come on Vidiot, you mean you haven't heard that season 6 may not start
as planned?  Just do a little thinking and it will all become clear.  As 
someone (I can't quite recall the name) recently said, "thinking 
produces wonders." :)

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dmehring@smaug.aoc.nrao.edu |  I am not Herbert. 
National Radio Astronomy    |  
Observatory, Socorro, NM    |
From: judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: It was McCoy Dammit
Date: 31 Jul 92 16:43:08 GMT

In article <1992Jul31.075401.21927@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> jeffery@ucsu.Colorado.EDU  
(JEFFERY ERIC ROBERT) writes:
> In article <5792@ucru2.ucr.edu> judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson)  
writes:
> >In article <92211.064015U16028@uicvm.uic.edu> U16028@uicvm.uic.edu writes:
> I am sick of everyone questioning the fact that that was McCoy in EaF.  Who
> else would it be?

I only mentioned it because somebody had doubts that it was in fact Dr.
McCoy.  And they have reason to doubt it.  Picard, in telling Data his
mission, simply said, "the Admiral."  Or was it Riker that said that?
Anyway, if they defininately intended for it to be Dr. McCoy, why
didn't he say "Admiral McCoy?"  Undoubtedly it was supposed to be 
McCoy, but.....
This brings up another point, maybe the new show is restricted from using
the same actor for the same part from the old show.
And this brings up another point if the above is true.  Scotty would not
be coming back as Scotty, but perhaps a son?  Or someone else?
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: avik@icase.edu (Avik Banerjee)
Subject: Re: Holodeck Question
Organization: ICASE/NASA Langley
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:42:54 GMT

In article <5813@ucru2.ucr.edu>, judson@watnxt2.ucr.edu (Michael Judson) writes:
>In article <1992Jul30.121606.21806@crash.cts.com> bwoolf@pro-woolf.cts.com  
>(Beverly Woolf) writes:
>> In <1992Jul23.200357.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
>> >Ergo, the water is real, and his clothes would have to dry just like
>> >any other wet garment in the 24th (or 20th) century.
>Well, on a small scale, the food replicators can create matter out of
>energy.  But this can not be done on a larger scale.  Hence, the holodecks
>must be confined in a room where the objects can be created, but can not
>exist outside of the room.  Therefore, if somebody does get wet, then
>if he remains in the holodeck, he will have to dry as normal.  But the
>second he steps out of the holodeck, the water will disappear and the
>clothes will be instantly dry.
>What do you think about that theory?

i seem to remember a episode where someone (i think it was wesley)
got all wet in the holodeck and ran into picard in a corridor and
got him wet as well. also there was that time when wesley spread
that virus that caused everyone to act drunk. i think he got it off
the holodeck during a skiing trip. anyway that spread to the rest
of the ship.

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From: ltf@ncmicro.lonestar.org (Lance Franklin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: *** Help me think up a good Star Trek license plate!
Date: 30 Jul 92 18:31:34 GMT
Organization: NC Microproducts, Inc.

hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa) writes:
}how about
}
}MKITSO
}WARP 9 (or x, you choose)

How about

CLASS M
KN-KB4
QUATLOO
REDALRT
TRIBBLE
NOTRIBL
K-MARU
MATAMAT

Or (for anti-trekkies)

GTALIFE


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From: barker@enel.ucalgary.ca (Scott Barker)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: Fizzbin: YES
Date: 30 Jul 1992 00:18:10 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

Val Kartchner said:
> Sem_Hoelscher@hb.maus.de (Sem Hoelscher) writes:
> : Shacha Scott!
> : 
> : Please post or send the rules to me! (A cute scene, isn't it?)
> 
> I think that there will be enough interest to justify just posting the rules.
> Thanks in advance go to anyone who is willing to post the rules.

I have posted the rules, a listing of the game in Applesoft BASIC and a
uuencoded copy of the Applesoft game. Maybe you just haven't gotten the
articles yet. I can repost if people missed the last posting.

-- 
Scott Barker
barker@enel.ucalgary.ca

"Asking if a computer can think is like asking if a submarine can swim"
   - Edsgar Djikstra
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: pauls@tcom.stc.co.uk (Paul Scott)
Subject: Re: Dumb Question
Organization: BNR Europe, New Southgate, London.
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 08:06:44 GMT

In article <10726446.93.711857252@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au> 10726446@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (LAU WAI KUEN) writes:
>In article <1992Jul22.144507.1864@wkuvx1.bitnet> smithjd@wkuvx1.bitnet writes:
>>From: smithjd@wkuvx1.bitnet
>>Subject: Dumb Question
>>Date: 22 Jul 92 14:45:07 CDT
>
>>When Picard is assimulated by the Borg, what was he called?  This is a dumb
>>question but I just can't think of it.
>
>
>   Bald Borg (TM) ?
>
Hah! No, Locutus (sp?)

PSS
From: ts@cup.portal.com (Tim W Smith)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
Subject: Re: New season start date
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 92 03:48:48 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
  <1992Jul20.163714.19738@nntp.uoregon.edu> <3668@vidiot.UUCP>
  <1992Jul21.195311.3421@dartvax.dartmouth.edu> <3681@vidiot.UUCP>

> is currently playing, determine where that is in the original count of 26
> episodes.  Just count forward on your favorite calendar.
> 
> Thinking produces wonders.

This assumes that one knows all 26 episodes and the order they were in.
I've missed some, and I also was out of town for a few weeks, and so
my VCR wrapped on the tape, leaving everything confused.

--Tim Smith
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc
From: rmbandy@athena.mit.edu (Reba M Bandyopadhyay)
Subject: Shatner and Nimoy in Boston--a request
Organization: Massachusetts Institute of Technology
Date: Wed, 22 Jul 1992 17:36:35 GMT

Hello all.  I went to the 25th anniversary tour of William Shatner and 
Leonard Nimoy here in Boston on the 17th.  Unfortunately, I did not bring a
camera, although I noticed plenty of people at the event did!  So I have a 
request:  if anyone out there reading this went to the Boston appearance and
took photos, would you be willing to make me a few copies of any good shots
of Nimoy and Shatner?  I would of course pay for the cost of the copies, and
for whatever postage it might cost to mail the photos to me if it isn't 
convenient to drop them off at MIT.  Any response would be greatly
appreciated!  Please write me via email, as it is often hard to keep up with
the volume of posts on these groups.  Thanks very much in advance!

-- 


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From: scrotch@milton.u.washington.edu (Lou Ciphre)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.misc,rec.arts.startrek.fandom
Subject: Re: *** Help me think up a good Star Trek license plate!
Date: 29 Jul 92 17:31:09 GMT
Organization: University of Washington

hinojosa@nado.hp.com (Daniel Hinojosa) writes:

>In article <1992Jul28.182449.22144@gagme.chi.il.us> jasonl@gagme.chi.il.us (A Conrad Bain Wanna-Be) writes:
>|In article <92207.215905NAG101@psuvm.psu.edu> Nick Giacobe <NAG101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>|say "EAT ME" or stuff like that on `em) might have a problem with the DAMIT.

>use '3M TA3' instead...

Sorry you lose - the license plate censors can read backwards too.


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