HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nyberg@willow.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Jason W. Nyberg)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: Clothes Dry from the Top Down (was Dry Towel in the DRYER?)
Date: 12 Nov 92 15:58:34 GMT

cromar@math.rutgers.edu (Scott Cromar) writes:

-I should make a clarification at this point.  When I posted a summary
-of the article before, I did not state clearly the mechanism by which
-the downward flow of air is induced.  As I stated before, the article
-(which appeared in a recent Science News; I can get the date and page
-number if anyone really wants it) stated that gravity's effect on the
-problem was negligible except as it relates to inducing a flow of air
-downward along the surface of the cloth.  It is assumed that the cloth

You and Science magazine are high on glue if you think that gravity 
doesn't pull water from upper portions of your Polo to the lower areas.
The flow of air due to the effect you describe is minimal compared to
the flow from even a very weak fan. Set a weak fan up alongside your
wet cloth to blow air sideways across it (not much flow is required to
nullify the "cool air dropping" effect and tell me that your shirt dries
perfectly evenly.  I think that the type of cloth and the degree of wet-
ness has a much greater effect than the one you describe.  Meaning that
a cloth that does not absorb a lot of moisture or a very wet cloth with
more water than can stick due to surface tension will DEFINITELY dry
from the top down, even in a stiff breeze.

-is cooler than the surrounding air, hence the downward flow of air is
-induced by the fact that air becomes more dense as it becomes cooler.
-The cloth becomes drier on the top than the bottom because the
-humidity of the air increases as it proceeds downward.  (Since the
-temperature continues to fall, the relative humidity also increases.)
-
-The first followup to my posting clarified this point, so I saw no
-point in posting my own clarification.  If you want to argue the
-merits of the assumptions made in the model used, I'll get you the
-reference for the article in question (it's on my bookshelf at home,
-so I can post it tomorrow if people are interested).

---Scott
-- 
Jason Nyberg                Amiga... The Eagle Talon of Computers
nyberg@ctron.com

"Work is the curse of the drinking class"      W. C. Feilds

Disclaimer: My opinions are just that...
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From: isbell@ai.mit.edu (Charles L Isbell)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american
Subject: Re: AIDS and the CIA (was Question)
Date: 7 Nov 92 20:41:56
Organization: MIT Artificial Intelligence Laboratory
	<Nov.6.23.24.55.1992.28817@math.rutgers.edu>
	<1992Nov7.071605.5489@midway.uchicago.edu>
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In-reply-to: thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu's message of Sat, 7 Nov 1992 07:16:05 GMT

thf2@ellis.uchicago.edu (Mmmm... Purple) writes:
|>> (Perhaps the theory that AIDS is
|>> a man-made disease will spread and become something of a UL
|>
|>I saw an article about the alienation of the urban black population.
|>Among the statistics quoted by the author was a study showing that a
|>large minority (~40%, if I remember correctly) believed that AIDS was
|>cooked up by the CIA.  I don't remember the source or the exact
|>statistics, but maybe this will ring a bell with someone who does.

|I've seen a similar stat somewhere.  The theory has been most recently
|espoused by noted epidemologist and viral specialist Spike Lee, and the
|media's been dutifully reporting his ravings.

Spike Lee aside, have any of you read _Bad Blood: The Tuskegee
Syphilis Experiment_?  Since the events described therein are true and
given the other facts of recent history, why would anyone actually be
surprised that there is a large minority of people who believe such
things about AIDS, etc?  And in fact, why would anyone dispute the
reality, however remote, of the possibility?

--
Peace.
                    "My opinions may have changed, 
                     but not the fact that I am right."

                                   -\--/-
    Don't just adopt opinions     |  \/  |       Some of you are homeboys
          develop them.           |  /\  | but only I am The Homeboy From hell
                                   -/--\-
From: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM (Brian Scearce)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: WW11 over, News at eleven (was forpost-WWll Japanese..)
Date: 9 Nov 1992 20:11:56 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: bls@sector7g.Eng.Sun.COM
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In article <1992Nov8.204314.18383@massey.ac.nz> C.K.Black@massey.ac.nz (C.K. Black) writes:
> Reference: No Surrender, my thirty-year war.  By Hiroo Onoda, trans. by
> C.S.Terry . Kodansha Int'l 1976 ,  ISBN 0-87011-240-6.

And in article 5x3@rahul.net, phil@rahul.net (Phil Gustafson) replies:
> We need more posters like Conrad.

Oh we do, do we?  Allow me to refresh your memory with one of the
entries from Steve Crocker's recently posted Trilateral Commission
Membership List:

 Conrad M. Black, Chairman & CEO, Hollinger Inc., Toronto.

Nice try, TLC flunky.  It'll take a little more than that to insinuate
your little star chamber on AFU.

Brian "You can have one world government when you pry it from my cold,
       dead fingers" Scearce
---
Brian Scearce                                           bls@sector7g.eng.sun.com
              The above does not necessarily represent Sun policy.
                  "You can't fit the truth on a t-shirt, man."
                                 "That'd fit."

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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Where can I look for any scholarly info....
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 20:45:10 GMT

twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan) writes:
: 
: Followed by billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson) who writes:
: 
:   +>Nope. He doesn't know the depths of depravity of which this group
:   +>is capable.
: 
: flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage) replies:
: 
:   +You got that right, and I quit, pretty silly thing, I really enjoy the
:   +subject area.......
:   +
:   +And I am not talking about spelling.!
: 
: Nor punctuation I take it.
: 
: Terry

Heh, heh! It has been fun yanking on his chain. Any more where he came
from?

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.conspiracy
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: Trilateral commission
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 1992 22:52:55 GMT

Didn't Monty Python once make a trilateral commission with three sides?

-- 
"Pascal is a toy language."      | hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu
             --Brian Kernighan   | WWIVNet 1@2750  WWIVLink 1@12754
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From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Will pay money for food.
Date: 13 Nov 1992 11:25 EST  

In article <BxMHuv.3Cs@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>, 
  johnb@sage.cc.purdue.edu (John Brainerd) writes...

>ALSO, DOES ANYONE KNOW WHERE A GIF, JPEG or SOME PICTURE OF AN ATM
>CAN BE FOUND????         Thanx!

Or, better yet, a GIF of an ATM card.  Aww, why not bypass the middleman and
just post a GIF of some money?

 - snopes

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From: twcaps@tennyson.lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Stupid ATM tricks (was:Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$)
Date: 12 Nov 1992 17:51:34 GMT
Organization: Department of Redundancy Department
Reply-To: TWChan@lbl.gov (Terry Chan)
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.12.117

  +Then there's the brute force solution to ATM rip-offs as reported once around
  +here. 

  [Steps 1-5 deleted to minimize delinquency]

cooper@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (Ralph 'Hairy' Moonen) writes:

  +Oh, I get it! You run away to get a cutting torch, and then return to  the
  +truck to cut away at your leisure. 
  +
  +I guess they were right when they said you could tell a criminal from 
  +their reduced amount of brain :-)

Are you sure, Ralph?  Perhaps this fellow was a pro but didn't want to
give away trade secrets?

Terry "I wouldn't" Chan
--
Energy and Environment Division   | Internet:  TWChan@lbl.gov
Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory      | 
Berkeley, California  USA  94720  | Carpe Per Diem
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Legal Tender
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 08:11:42 GMT

davew@willow03.cray.com (Dave Wagner) writes:
: 
: What do those words "This note is legal tender for all debts, public and
: private" really mean?  (i.e from a '...we don't accept bills larger than x'
: point of view).

All it means is that you can use them to pay debts. It does not mean that
a merchant has to accept them. In other words, a merchant could refuse to
accept cash payments - requiring only check or credit card - if he wished
to do so.  

Bill
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: dpm1960@tm0006.lerc.nasa.gov (snopes)
Subject: Re: Peanuts/Schulz UL?
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: Will pay money for food.
Date: 13 Nov 1992 21:06 EST  

In article <1e1conINN1a8@darkstar.UCSC.EDU>, 
  cspot@cats.ucsc.edu (Christopher Edward Hilker) writes...

>I remember having heard that Charles Schulz, the creator of the
>Peanuts comic strip, has written a series of strips to be published
>in the event of his death. 

These strips will reveal the true identity of his murderer.

>These strips, supposedly resting for the time being in a vault in the offices 
>of his syndicate/distributor, are astoundingly bleak and bitter

How will we be able to tell?

>Has anybody else heard anything like this?

Not since hsr4 stopped posting.

 - snopes


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From: nadja@jetsun.weitek.COM (Nadja Adolf)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,soc.culture.african.american,sci.skeptic
Subject: Re: 1950's Darryle, damnit.
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:58:28 GMT
Organization: WEITEK Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <1dpuj5INN1to@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU writes:
>In article <XrB=1k@engin.umich.edu>, dem@engin.umich.edu (Darryle E Merlette) writes:
>>Even if AIDS appeared in the 50's (what evidence is there of this?)
>>and is a naturally occurring virus, that doesn't preclude its use in wiping 
>>out populations just as smallpox was used to wipe out the indiginous people 
>>of North America.

>First of all, you mean measles, not smallpox.  Second, measles is contagious;
>AIDS is merely infectious.  Do you understand the difference?  Third, Europeans
>had developed a resistance to measles, while the American Indians hadn't.  Are
>you claiming that white Americans have a resistance to AIDS?

Wait a minute. It WAS smallpox. It began as an accident, when because of
a shortage, blankets from a contagious disease hospital were sent as part
of a treaty settlement. In any event, the policy was deliberately genocidal
later. For example, the Lakota, Dakota and Nakota had all been 'Jennerized'
(vaccinated for smallpox) by the 1820s. They had a medal struck and sent
to Jenner in his honor. However, when the plains peoples were forced onto
reservations, the government failed to continue the immunizations, resulting
in many deaths, blindings, and disfigurements.

Diptheria and TB also held full sway among the starved and overworked 
reservation people. In this century, radiation was added to the 'Indian
Policy.'



-- 
The Earth Pig Bourne....

nadja@node.com (prefered email address)
nadja@weitek.com
From: heathh@cco.caltech.edu (Heath Ian Hunnicutt)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Re: CDs cheaper to make than cassettes?
Date: 13 Nov 1992 22:41:13 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
NNTP-Posting-Host: punisher.caltech.edu

Mike Berman <MSB101@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:

>Along related lines (I know this one is true), it is cheaper to make certain
>computer chips with math coprocessors than to make them without (since it costs
> extra money to sever the line to the coprocessor).  But the ones with the
>coprocessor cost more.  Of course in this case, you're paying for technology...

	Unless I miss my guess, you must be refferring to the Intel 486
and 486sx.  While it is true that the 486sx is merely a 486 with a "severed
line", there was a good reason to sever that line and charge less for
the chip.  Namely, most 486sxs are 486 chips that _failed_ the quality
check for the floating point unit.  That is, the main processor was
working, but there was some trouble during the fabrication that screwed
up only the "math coprocessor" portion of the chip.  Well, there was no
reason for Intel to throw away a perfectly fine half-working chip, so
they "officially" removed the floating point unit and called it the SX.

	So, it was more than just profitteering on the part of Intel.

See ya,
Heath


-- 
--
From the Home for Amnesiac Computer Scientists....
  heathh@cco.caltech.edu

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From: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com (Bruce Tindall)
Subject: Re: Legal Tender
Originator: sasbmt@jjoyce.unx.sas.com
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 22:32:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: SAS Institute Inc.


In article <10NOV199212445591@csa3.lbl.gov>, jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (Ad absurdum per aspera) writes:
>[Paying taxes in pennies] makes life hard for the working stiffs without
>even getting the attention of the higher-ups, much less the Congress
>that establishes the taxes they collect.

...nor the public who demand services from that Congress, which
Congress must then pay for.  Which reminds me of a story (UL? Not?) 
I heard when working in Our Nation's Capital in 1973.  An angry woman 
phoned her Congressman with two things on her mind.  (1) Would you 
please stop wasting money on all those damned Social Programs(tm)?  
(2) Can you please speed up the processing of my son's Federal loan 
for college tuition?

Apparently this lady was among the cognitive-dissonance-challenged.


-- 
Bruce Tindall, Core Testing Mgr., SAS Institute Inc., Cary, N.C. 27513
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
From: Chuck Adams <chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov>
Subject: Re: HIt by lightning - Yeah, sure
Organization: Superconducting Super Collider Laboratory
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 1992 18:51:52 GMT

In article <1992Nov5.183247.23771@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> lorange@spot.Colorado.EDU
(Hans L'Orange) writes:
>chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov (Chuck Adams) writes:
>
>
>>Since my house suffered a lightning strike in late July (and frying all the
>>electrical things in my house in the process), am I not due to win the
lottery?
>> (or maybe I should buy lottery tickets first?)
>
>
>Sorry Chuck, it didn't work for me and I got hit directly.  Maybe if your
house
>bought the tickets...
>
>Hans

This brings up an interesting point......does anyone know the odds of being
struck by lightning, that is like Hans where HE actually got hit......I
understand that something like 80 people or so get hit in the US every year,
thats 80 out of 250 million.  So how many folks that read this newgroup have
been hit?  That could really scramble your diodes, Phil if it happened to you!

                      Chuck Adams,  WB5WRR   (The Chuckster)
                 Not an official document of DOE, SSCL, URA or EG&G
             "I cut you three ways, man:  quick, deep and frequently"
                       Internet:  chuck_adams@qmail.ssc.gov
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Another Airport Urban Legend.
From: jem@latcs1.lat.oz.au (Joan McGalliard)
Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1992 23:34:42 GMT
Organization: Australian Computing and Communications Institute


I heard this one a few years ago in Melbourne, Australia:

There is a sign at Heathrow airport that says "Beware of
Pickpockets".  It was not placed there, as you might expect,
by the authorities, but rather by the pickpockets
themselves.  You see, when people look at the sign, they pat
their pocket to ensure that they still have their wallet.
The thieves then know where the wallet is, and can move 
straight in and remove said wallet without hinderance.

I liked this story a lot.  Especially the high paranoia
factor it induces.

joan
-- 
 "It's better to live on your     Joan McGalliard, 
  feet than to die on your        Australian Computing and 
  knees."                         Communications Institute.
                                  (borrowing latcs1)
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From: billn@hpcvaac.cv.hp.com (bill nelson)
Subject: Re: Where can I look for any scholarly info....
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Company, Corvallis, Oregon USA
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 08:26:22 GMT

flar@iastate.edu (Bradley M Armitage) writes:
: 
: All I wanted was some information, if you don't have it, don't post, if
: you have nothing inteligent to say, say nothing, and excuse any more
: typos!

OK - we won't worry about typos. But, your spelling of legend was not a
typo.

: I thought spelling flaming went out a long time ago, with the advent of
: inteligence!!!

Beats me - show some intelligence - then we will see if the spelling flames
stop.

Furrfu.

Bill
From: Bruce.Tindall@launchpad.unc.edu (Bruce Tindall)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: Spanish Fly
Date: 10 Nov 92 03:23:39 GMT
Organization: University of North Carolina Extended Bulletin Board Service

[Billionth iteration of very ancient reference to Spanish Fly deleted.]

Spanish Fly (pulverized blister-beetles) contains cantharides, which
can cause physical arousal of a sort, by irritating the urinary tract 
when ingested and excreted.  But dig this: it was used in the mid-19th
century to treat pleurisy.  Applied to the skin, it created blisters
12 by 6 inches in size, which (it was erroneously thought) beneficially
drew liquid away from the lungs.  You want that *inside* your ureter?

In Victorian England there were several cases of manslaughter or 
malicious poisoning by means of Spanish Fly.  In one, Regina v.
Hennah, 1877, in which the victim didn't die, the defendant was
acquitted because no intent to harm was proved.  

In more recent times, and more legitimately, the active ingredient in
Spanish Fly was used medicinally to dissolve external warts.

Sources: (1) P.V.Taberner, "Aphrodisiacs: the science and the myth"
(Philadelphia: University of Pennsylvania Press, 1985).  We don't
need no stinkin' ISBNumber; look it up in your library catalog or Books
in Print. (2) Encyclopaedia Britannica, 15th ed., source of last resort,
s.vv. "aphrodisiac" and "blister beetle".

Note: the weasely "diode joke" is frowned upon in this newsgroup.
If you have any questions, Phil Gustafson will be glad to rearrange
your :-) for you.

Bruce "You don't need a weatherman to know which way the direct
current flows" Tindall

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From: dechc00@tohi.DMI.USherb.Ca (CHRISTIAN DECHAMPLAIN)
Subject: Re: Courgettes (was Re: doggy style)
Organization: Universite de Sherbrooke -- departement de Mathematiques et
	d'Informatique
	<srn.721117917@minnie> <H.ea.3o5hRYaYXrs@harvee.billerica.ma.us>
	<1992Nov9.202523.23043@titan.tsd.arlut.utexas.edu>
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 23:50:28 GMT


Une courgette, c'est une petite courge.

OUL: Courgettes are used to cure hemoroids.  (c.f. preparation C from the FAQ)

--
Christian Dechamplain|
(819) 563-8951       |
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From: PAPAI@kcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu (Jonathan Papai)
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Organization: The Ohio State University
 <1992Nov11.075744.23315@news.columbia.edu>
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 11 Nov 1992 20:59:57 GMT

 lasner@watsun.cc.columbia.edu (Charles Lasner) writes

>cj "So what does the middle initial 'T' in MTV stand for?" l
>(Music Terry-Vision?)

Only in Japan.

-Jon

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From: jm@maths.tcd.ie (Justin Mason)
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban,alt.folklore.computers
Subject: Re: Jackpotting ATM's for $$$$
Date: 11 Nov 92 22:28:36 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.
Organisation: Universal Media Netweb (Ireland) Inc.

komarimf@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Mark 'Henry' Komarinski) writes:

>hleaves@gems.vcu.edu writes:

>I was told that the commands sent through the modem port were encrypted with
>100 digit primes..similar levels of encryption used for your passwords, etc.
>Finding out the specific commands to tell the ATM that you have 'card of
>infinite funds' would be rather difficult to do.  Also, you'd need a lot
>of time to do it.  Probably takes time X+1, where X is the amount of time
>for someone to figure out you're doing something you're not supposed to.

Well, they're not encrypted here in Ireland, but then if ATM fraud goes
on here, the card holder is the one who loses out, not the bank;
therefore, the bank has no need to bother encrypting the data scooting
back and forth over its leased lines, from a capitalist point of view.
I think it is encrypted in the States, where the bank is held liable
for ATM fraud.

>-Mark
From: egilmour@ac.dal.ca
Newsgroups: alt.folklore.urban
Subject: LSD Laced Lick-on Tattoos
Date: 12 Nov 92 12:04:11 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Last year in my city police were warning the parents and schoolchildren 
about LSD laced lick-on fake tattoos that were apparently being sold to kids
in schoolyards.  Bulletins were being sent to schools and the 
news made mention of these warnings.  I can't believe that this could
be anything but an urban legend, and I seem to remember
that even when I was in grade school
we were issued the same warnings by teachers.  Has anyone else
heard about this?  Sometimes it is surprising that teachers and police
cannot even separate urban legend from fact and that they would 
spread this unsubstantiated information.

As urban legends usually prey on the fears of the day, I wonder if
maybe this story began in the sixties or whenever experimentation
with drugs was a major concern of the day.
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