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From: mmccartn@cs.utexas.edu (Michael David McCartney)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Help w/figures
Date: 17 Nov 1992 01:30:26 -0600
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
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In article <1992Nov16.154422.2462@vax1.mankato.msus.edu> wookiee@vax1.mankato.msus.edu writes:
>I have a question I was hoping someone here could answer for me... I have two
>Han Solo figures from the Series I figures and they look completely different. 
>Ok, they have the vest/pants/ and gun the same, but the rest is different.  One
>looks like Han (as much as the other figures look like the other characters)
>and has short sleaves if I remember right, while the other one has long sleaves
>and looks nothing at all like Han... If any one knows why there are two
>different ones, and if one is worth more then the other then please let me
>know...  Just Kinda Curious...
>

In "Star Wars: From Concept to Screen to Collectible", the author notes the
difference and has a photo of the two distinctly different Han Solo figures
and says that the difference is due to last minute changes in the 
manufacturing process.

The photo is on p. 69 and the caption reads:  "Occasionally toys had to be
changed during production runs.  Here's a tall Snaggletooth [tall blue]
with the wrong body design and the corrected version [short red], along with
Han Solo's two different head sculptings."

The picture of the Han Solo's [along with Snaggletooth's] plainly shows the
differences between the Han Solo figures and the difference is all in the
head.  You might want to double check on those sleeves because as far as I
know, the sleeves have always been long.

(it would be awfully Barbie-like to have Han Solo in Summer Outfit! :-))

cheers,
mike
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From: phoenix.Princeton.EDU!carlosn (Carlos G. Niederstrasser)
Subject: Re: Zahn, Flint and LetterBox Info
Originator: news@nimaster
Organization: Princeton University
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:40:12 GMT

In article <CFORTIER.92Nov16084507@genghis.news> cfortier@genghis.news (Chris  
Fortier) writes:
> Over the weekend, I happened to find my way to a WaldenBooks, where I queried
> a salesperson about new Star Wars novels.
> 
> "The Last Command", by Timothy Zahn is slated for a June 1993 release.  No
> exact date was listed.
> 
> A new book by Ken Flint is to be introduced in December.  I believe the title
> is "Legends Reborn."  In any case, there was no association of Star Wars in
> the title.  Perhaps this book is not sanctioned by Lucas.  Can someone verify
> this?
> 
> Finally, the VHS version of the LetterBox Star Wars Trilogy was released on
> Thursday.  I got myself a copy for $97 (tax included).  The LetterBox format
> is indeed superior to the Pan & Scan format.  If you have the opportunity, 
> put these tapes through a home theater system.  It really is like being at  
the
> movies.  I really wish more movies came in this format.  It is superior.
> 
> Basically, there are extra scenes that were not present in the P&S format and
> there are enhancements to existing scenes, afforded by the LetterBox format.
> The set includes "Star Wars", "The Empire Strikes Back", "Return of the  
Jedi",
> "From Star Wars to Jedi; The making of a Saga", and a color book describing
> the work Lucas put into making the trilogy.
> 
> Whether or not it's worth the $100, is up to you.  Today, I am inclined to  
say
> yes.
> 
> Chris


Then there are those of us who rushed to buy the pan&scan two months ago,  
because of a rumor that they were being pulled.  Of course noone ever mentioned  
_why_ they were being pulled!

Any one want to buy them they are still shrink wraped and everything :)

Whine, Whine :)

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From: dsblack@iastate.edu (Vilkata TDK)
Subject: Re: STAR WARS MUSIC
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:36:47 GMT

In <1992Nov16.123217.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu> ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:

>In article <12NOV92162533@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu>, dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper) writes:
>>
>> Actually the full Star Wars soundtrack is about 75 minutes long.  Since I 
>> own two 76-minute CDs and know that 80-minute ones exist, it's fairly 
>> obvious that the SW soundtrack COULD fit on one CD.  Why isn't it?  The two 
>> possible reasons I've come up with: (a) there is some loss in sound quality 
>> when putting that much music on one disc, or (b) the record company is 
>> greedy and wanted the extra money from selling 2 CDs.  (This seems either 
>> unlikely or downright stupid, since they're probably losing as much to the 
>> people (like me) who refuse to pay for 2 CDs when it could fit on one.)
>> 
>> --Gallandro
>> 

>You own two 76-minute CDs?!?
>I've always (ALWAYS) heard that the maximum length of a CD recording was 
>73min and some odd seconds.  (The story being that Sony folk decided on this
>figure so that some particular Beethoven symphony would be able to fit!)
>This is news to me, if true.  (I'm not questioning your honesty, I'm just
>dumbfounded!)

Well, here are some I have:

Extreme            III Sides To Every Story       76:09
Guns & Roses       Use Your Illusion I            76:04
Guns & Roses       Use Your Illusion II           75:57
RHC Peppers        Blood Sugar Sex Magik          73:55
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From: jp67+@andrew.cmu.edu (Joshua Jacob Prinsky)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Dark Lord of Sith
Date: 17 Nov 92 19:48:46 GMT
	<1992Nov17.144510.4042@cs.unca.edu>
Organization: Freshman, MCS general, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

I seem to remember reading in the novelANH, when Darth Vader is first
introduced, He was introduced as "a Dark lord of Sith".  Does this mean
there are other Dark Lords?  Are they ever mentioned anywhere else?  Or
is my memory lacking and Darth is the only Dark Lord?
From: keith@cco.caltech.edu (Keith Allan Schneider)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: AT-AT's (Was: Re: Luke's lightsaber)
Date: 21 Nov 1992 10:52:52 GMT
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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>I still think that the AT-AT's are protected by a field.  Why would one
>assume that the speeders flying around the AT-AT's and the X,Y,A-Wings,
>TIE-fighters, etc. have non-physical shielding, but that AT-AT's have
>only metal armor?  Doesn't make sense.

The armor isn't just metal, like a Sherman tank.  This is pretty special
stuff, probably magnetically sealed (whatever that may mean).  There is
not really evidence of any shields--the snowspeeder blasts hit directly
on the legs, etc.  Anyway, whatever types of shields the fighters have,
they don't seem particulary effective.  Perhaps they can only slightly
deflect glancing shots, or something.

>When the AT-AT fell, the impact must have damaged the shield system so
>then the snowspeeder pilot, seeing this, went in and took 'em out.
>That would also explain why the shots from the snowspeeders didn't even
>nick the surface, which should happen if the armor is just physical and
>really thick.  The AT-AT's are so huge, they can be basically walking
>cannons and shields.  Quite an effective weapon, really, if you can
>generate enough power.

It looked like the armor cracked.  Also, they fighter pilots could aim 
effectively without having to worry about dodging the enemy fire.

keith
From: mmartin@wpi.WPI.EDU (Matthew Wayne Martin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: New Films (OR LEARN TO READ)
Date: 19 Nov 1992 18:28:01 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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	This is now the third time I've posted this. So, for those of you
who were unable to comprehend it the last time, here goes.

	According to Lucas (yes, GEORGE LUCAS), in the LUCASFILM FAN CLUB
MAGAZINE--(about as official as you can hope for), there WILL BE MORE
STAR WARS MOVIES.  They will be EPISODES 1,2,3.  They will deal with the
ADVENTURES OF A YOUNG OBI-WAN AND ANAKIN SKYWALKER.  They will not have
Luke, Leia (unless as newborns), or Han.  They will be filmed at the same 
time and released BETWEEN 1995-2000.  They have not been written yet---Lucas
has spent his time working on Young Indy.  
	If some of you posters actually took the time to read what some of
us write, we wouldn't have our daily "Are there going to be more movies?"

	There is no speculation....THEY ARE GOING TO BE MADE.  They isn't
going to be a movie next year.....LUCAS himself recently said on NBC's TODAY
SHOW that they will most likely come out in 1995,1996,1997.  
	I don't know what more you people need.  I think information from
Lucasfilm, and the words of Lucas himself would be enough to end this
discussion.  What do you people want?  This info comes from the mouth of
Lucas; It's as official as it gets.

	Hopefully, we can end this array of countless "sources" and "rumors"
of everyone from Macauley Culkin to Mark Hamill to Steven Spielberg being
involved.  Lucas hasn't even finalized the stories, let alone pick a cast.
From: lccs1011@blurt.oswego.edu (Ray Warner (the 'skwish dude))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Alternate SW characters....
Date: 19 Nov 92 12:19:19 GMT
Organization: SUNY College at Oswego, Oswego, NY

How about these different SW characters:

Middle age man as Jabba: "You lookin' at my gut? I'm workin on it!"
Grumpy old man as The Emperor: "In my day we didn't have lightsabers, we had
                                to wave sticks!"
Ford Prefect as Ben Kenobi: "Use the Guide, Luke" or "May your towel be with
                             you."
Bart Simpson as Luke:  Vader:"I am your father Luke."
                       Luke:"Yeah, right."

                       The Emperor:"Take your father's place at my side."
                       Luke:"Eat my shorts, dude."
Homer Simpson as The Emperor:"Luke!"

...just bored...waiting for the money to buy the lbx copies of the trilogy...

the 'skwish dude...
From: joshuali@sal-sun8.usc.edu (Joshua Ling)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Zahn, Flint and LetterBox Info (LONG)
Date: 18 Nov 1992 17:43:22 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
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In article <CFORTIER.92Nov17083235@genghis.news> cfortier@genghis.news (Chris Fortier) writes:
>
>I thought that most people had read the difference between the P&S and LBX
>versions of the trilogy that is up on the Star Wars archive at WPI.  Obviously
>not ;-).
>
>In order to clarify the confusion.  There ARE extra scenes in the LBX version
>that ARE NOT present in the P&S version.  Granted they are few.  The big
>difference is the original footage that is chopped by P&S.


Please learn what SCENES are. When you say that there are extra scenes in
the letterboxed version, you get a load of people excited. Don't even bring
up Biggs......!......A cropping of a shot because of the aspect ratio of
the TV is not a cut scene.  Letterboxing lets you see the entire frame of
the film, in it's original aspect ratio. Pan and scan chops off the left and
right and brings the top and bottom of the frame to the top and bottom of 
the television screen.

I have both versions and there aren't ANY SCENES present in one that aren't
present in the other.

A scene is a specific area in the film that takes place more or less in the
same setting. Han and Chewie talking in Jabba's dungeon is 1 scene. Each
camera angle is a SHOT. 

So the letterboxed version has all the scenes but the Pan and Scan is missing
areas of the frame.

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From: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Subject: Re: Collectibles Prices wanted
Originator: cmgeorg@c00091-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:02:02 GMT


In article <kesslerm.215.0@columbia.dsu.edu>, kesslerm@columbia.dsu.edu (MICHAEL KESSLER) writes:
|>
|>	I was wondering if any of you had the new price guide for Star Wars 
|>Collectibles.  If so what is the name & author of it.  I would like to get 
|>some quotes on some of the items that I have.
|>	thanks,
|>Mike K.
|>

The whole thing behind "price guides" gives me a chill.  They are only really
effective if the toy is mint and still in the original box.  Figures especially.
You can't hope to make a killing on a box of your old SW toys. Period.
There's only a few loose toys that will fetch a good price.  I don't have the
time or patience to get into it now, but as a warning, you need to be well
read and well educated about the art of collecting ANYTHING.  You can be
burned bad if you're gullable and misinformed.

The best "price guides" I have seen are Tomart's Guide to Action figures
(or something along that line).  Anyway, they come out with updates every
so often and that's usually the best thing to go by.  Then again it helps
to talk to ALOT of people and attending toy shows and conventions.

Guides differ from author to author so be careful.  Probably the worst such
"guide" is the newest ST/SW "price guide".  The price quotes are ridiculous
for some things.  Another good guide should be the new magazine put out by
the people who do "Toy Shop" - an entire paper devoted to buying and selling.
It's what everybody whose anybody checks out.  There you're sure to find
things for sale AND wanted.  Anyway, the name of the magazine is called 
"Toys and Prices".  The first issue may still be in the newsstand it had
about 6 pages devoted to SW stuff.

If anybody has some specific questions, I'd be glad to help out thru email.

-chris

 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++                                                                           
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From: ch134@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Michelle Guydosh)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: New Star Wars actor.
Date: 20 Nov 1992 01:51:56 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
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PLEASE DON'T LET IT BE TRUE!
I thought Home Alone and it's sequel were bad enough, but to pollute Star Wars
with that kid should be against the law.
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From:  ()
Subject: Re: The Sith
Followup-To: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Organization: Calvin College
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 16:54:11 GMT

In article <92326.173858EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu>, EAO102@psuvm.psu.edu (Ernie
Oporto) wrote:
> 
> In article <BxzF3n.F0z@ns1.nodak.edu>, nilles@plains.NoDak.edu (Allen Nilles)
> says:
> >OK, I've been meaning to say something about this too. In the Skywalking
> >Articles located in the archives, Lucas calls the Sith a sect of evil warriors
> >Now I am of the Opion that the Sith is the opposite of the Jedi, namely
> >evil Jedi. How many of you out there agree with me that Zahn's "Dark Jedi"
> >title sounds really dorky? Knights of the Sith sounds much more Star
> >Warsian, IMHO. I also think that Darth Vader is *A* dark Lord of the Sith,
> >meaning that there are more(the equivelant of a Jedi Master) and that they
> >are all DARK.
> 
> Or *WERE* all dark.  Maybe Vader was the last of a group of evil Sith that
> banded together to destroy the good Jedi at the time of the Clone Wars.
> 
The Jedi were not destroyed during the Clone Wars.  In fact they actually
won the Clone Wars it was only afterwards that the Sith was formed by the
Emperor to destroy the Jedi.

													A Local Star Wars Guru



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From: DCC117@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: Dark Horse Dark Empire - Questions
Date: 15 Nov 92 22:38:34 GMT
Article-I.D.: psuvm.92320.173834DCC117
 <1992Nov14.130335.3575@pro-freedom.cts.com>
Organization: Penn State University

In article <1992Nov14.130335.3575@pro-freedom.cts.com>, pip@pro-freedom.cts.com
(David Pipgras) says:
>
>
>They give not date as for the release, but they do say that they will be
>doing a new series, and that is will be a sequel to Dark Empire...They also
>hint (and rather nastily) at the next Star Wars series from Lucas...
>
>Dave
>==============================================================

 What do you mean? I don't remember them hinting at Lucas'
next series.....

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From: tapio@nic.funet.fi (Tapio Keih{nen)
Subject: Re: Young Indy Cancelled
Organization: Finnish University and ResearcH Network, FUNET
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 09:41:17 GMT

In article <92326.175133GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu>, <GPS108@psuvm.psu.edu> says:

>glad that Lucas won't have to work under these restraints anymore.  He can
>working on the Star Wars films until he is done with Young Indy and
>now every Star Wars fan's prayers have been answered!!  Thank you ABC!!!

Does anyone know when Lucas worked with Young Indy last time? When was
the last chapter of Young Indy made?

--
Tapio Keihanen - tapio@nic.funet.fi \ / "Never look back, never turn!"
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From: spinoza@next06wor.wam.umd.edu (Yon Bonnie Laird of Cairn Robbing)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: Re: The Sith
Date: 22 Nov 92 10:47:59 GMT

In article <92326.143209IA80024@MAINE.MAINE.EDU> IA80024@MAINE.MAINE.EDU  
(Nicholas C. Hester) writes:
> In article <By1rnF.6EI@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, sjs28257@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu  
(Steve
> Stelter) says:
> >
> >>Can someone plese tell what the hell is "the sith"?
> >
> >As far as I know, exactly what the Sith is has never been revealed.
> >My personal theory is that it's an archaic term for the Dark Side
> >of the Force.
> 
> Couldn't it be the name of a/the cult of the emporer?  And Vader is
> a dark lord, dark used in a way as to mean high(er/est) in rank, while
> lord is a title perhaps used in a quasi-Noble/General.
> 
> Comments?
> ___
Ummm, perhaps I'm missing a bit, seeing as how we've got no royals this  
side of the pond, but maybe the Sith is a geographic area, a castle, a  
really dank fen,  or something like that? I mean, isn't that the way the  
title thing usually works? You know, Duke of Windsor, Prince of Wales, Sir  
Loin of Beef (sorry, couldn't resist. Bugs Bunny Rules!), Earl of  
Sandwich, that sort of thing?  If the Empire is at all like your typical  
Empire, wouldn't they observe the typical methods of naming the usual high  
mucky-mucks like Lord Vader o' the Sith?
From: meierdalepau@bvc.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.sf.starwars
Subject: RE:  TIE fighters
Date: 23 Nov 92 22:23:10 CDT
Organization: Buena Vista College, Storm Lake, IA


	TIE is the acronym for T.win I.on E.ngine.  It also describes the 
appearance of a fighter, almost like that of a bow tie.

Dale Meier
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From: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Subject: Re: CD Length (was:STAR WARS MUSIC
Originator: cmgeorg@c00581-1403br.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu (CHRIS MICH GEORGOULIAS)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 16:13:27 GMT


In article <1992Nov16.123217.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>, ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu writes:
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|>Subject: Re: STAR WARS MUSIC
|>Message-ID: <1992Nov16.123217.1@eagle.wesleyan.edu>
|>From: ttullio@eagle.wesleyan.edu
|>Date: 16 Nov 92 12:32:17 EST
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|>In article <12NOV92162533@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu>, dkemper@oolong.hacks.arizona.edu (David Kemper) writes:

|>You own two 76-minute CDs?!?
|>I've always (ALWAYS) heard that the maximum length of a CD recording was 
|>73min and some odd seconds.  (The story being that Sony folk decided on this
|>figure so that some particular Beethoven symphony would be able to fit!)
|>This is news to me, if true.  (I'm not questioning your honesty, I'm just
|>dumbfounded!)

I think the max I have heard is 80 min and a few odd seconds.  Personally,
I have a CD that clocks in at around 79 minutes, can't remember which one,
although Godflesh rings a bell.

-chris

 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++                                                                           
 +      Chris Georgoulias                                                    +
 + North Carolina State University                                           +
 +     cmgeorg@eos.ncsu.edu                                                  +
 +                                                                           +
 + "Aah... who cares about school...who cares about life...who cares about   +
 +  me.  Not me, that's for sure!  Look!...(punches himself in the head)..   +
 +  ...I just don't care!"                                                   +
 +                                       -Vyvian,  The Young Ones            +                                             
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