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In rec.radio.amateur.misc, gcouger@olesun.okstate.edu (Gordon Couger) writes:

>Learning code for me was very difficult. Actually using code is a lot
>more fun to me than listing to a computer spew out code. 

A key point.  CW tapes are probably the best way to go from 0 to 5 wpm,
but they sure do get boring after awhile.  I recommend you get on the 80
or 15 meter Novice band as soon as you have the privileges, and get
your code speed up by actual operating.  Contesting and traffic
handling are two excellent ways to learn quickly.

AL N1AL

Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: brian@umbc8.umbc.edu (Brian Cuthie)
Subject: Re: Wanted: Advice on PC Board Layout Software
Organization: Systemix Software, Inc.
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 05:57:54 GMT

In article <15178.2b3439c8@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu> garland@ohstpy.mps.ohio-state.edu writes:
>WANTED: Opinions on software for designing printed circuit boards (to run on a
>PC). Ideally I'd like something that was not too complicated (no 500 page
>manual to wade through), but which could handle double-sided boards with
>possibly a silk screen overlay.  I've used a shareware package calle PCRoute,
>but it doesn't have enough capability for anything but the simplest designs.
>Thanks,
>
>Jim W8ZR

I recommend PADS.  It's available in a demo version that has full
functionality for designs up to something like 75 parts.  They fully
recommend that you use it for small designs and then buy it when your
needs increase.

I think they're in Boston.

brian

-- 
Brian Cuthie
Systemix Software, Inc.
brian@systemix.com
From: LEAVITDG@splava.cc.PLattsburgh.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: ==>HAMFEST: Northern Vermont 27 Feb <=== [good one]
Date: 17 Dec 92 12:41:00 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
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Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

Date sent:  17-DEC-1992 07:41:07 
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From: dbushong@wang.com (Dave Bushong)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Tandy Bashing
Date: 19 Dec 92 21:51:03 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Wang Labs, Lowell MA, USA

gpmh@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Patrick Hurley) writes:

>First my question:

>     Does anyone know of an address and/or name for the Tandy
>corporation where an unhappy customer can send a complaint??

>Now my complaint:

>     It wasn't that long ago that I watched all the Tandy
>bashing that was taking place on rec.radio.amateur.misc.  At
>the time I read all of the posts and continued to do business
>at Radio Shack because they did carry some products I was
>interested in and up until recently, their most annoying
>habit was to ask for the last four digits of my phone number.

>ALL OF THAT HAS CHANGED!!!!!

>     I now agree wholeheartedly with many of the opinions
>that were expressed here.  I recently had the privilege of
>visiting a local Radio Shack and receiving assistance from a
>rude, unprofessional, discourteous, and technically
>incompetent salesperson.  

I knew more than any Radio Shack salespeople I've met, ever since
my first visit to their stores when I was 11.

>The mere fact that this person was
>incompetent did not bother me as much as the fact that he
>insisted on proving it to me in a rather boisterous fashion.

Radio Shack's people don't hold a monopoly on showing their
stupidity.  Many of them are quite nice, etc.

>All of this in front of a co-worker and a store full of
>people.... at no additional charge!!!

There are a lot of RS horror stories, and most are well-founded.
The only reason that I go there is so that my Son Billy can
get a free battery every month.  And so that Pres-E Bill Clinton
can get RS catalogs at the White House :)

73, Dave


-- 
Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc.   Amateur Radio Callsign KZ1O
Project Leader, OCR products            kz1o@n0ary.#noca.ca.na
Internet: dbushong@wang.com
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: pk75978@ee.tut.fi (Keskinen Petri -3MEP)
Subject: Re: QSL practices F6FNU, FR5DX
Organization: Tampere University of Technology
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 11:51:15 GMT


Hello all!

I'm so lucky, that I haven't ever worked FR5DX so I have no
troubles. There are plenty of other hams on FR-land, and most
of the others send their replys to buro-qsls! At least I have
got several qsls via buro, sorry but I can remember only 2 of 
them FR0P and FR5GG, but still think that I also have some
others!
I think it's not worth paying many dollars for one qsl, because
it is so easy country to work again. At least here in Finland
(EUROPE), an airmail letter to any part of the world is abt 0.75$
or one  IRC!
 
GL getting ur cards...
pete
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pk75978@ee.tut.fi 
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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: gws
Subject: ARRL Bulletin 114  ARLB114
Organization: HAM BBS, 614-895-2553 
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 22:41:18 GMT


============================================================== 
| 	Automatic relayed from packet radio via              | 
| N8EMR's Ham BBS, 614-895-2553                              |
==============================================================

ZCZC AG37
QST de W1AW
ARRL Bulletin 114  ARLB114
>From ARRL Headquarters Newington CT
December 16, 1992
Relayed by KB8NW/OBS & BARF-80 BBS
To all radio amateurs

SB QST ARL ARLB114
ARLB114 222 MHz proposal

222 MHz proposal

The FCC has issued a notice of proposed rule making that would make
several changes in the 222 and 1240 MHz amateur bands.  The first
would establish a small new subband in the 222-MHz band, where
repeater stations would be prohibited in order to enhance
weak-signal communications and experimentation.

Theentire 222-225 MHz amateur band.

The third proposal would allow Novice Class operators to be
licensees and control operators of repeaters in the 222-225 MHz band
and in the 1270-1295 MHz Novice subband of the 1240-1300 MHz band.

The first two proposals were in response to ARRL petitions; the
third was not.

The comment deadline in this, PR Docket 92-289, is February 23,
1993.  The reply comment deadline is March 23, 1993.  For more
information see January, 1992 QST, page 73, and April, 1992 QST,
page 62.
NNNN
From: steve@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Schallehn)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Repeater Controllers (WAS Re: ACC List for RC-850, etc.)
Date: 12 Dec 1992 12:02:44 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
Reply-To: steve@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Steve Schallehn)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hurricane.ksu.ksu.edu

larryj@countach.telcom.tek.com (Larry Johnson) writes:

>I just purchased a used RC-1000 Repeater Controller which is made by
>Micro Computer Concepts in Dayton, Ohio. There are ads in QST and 73
>Magazine. The wired and tested unit price is $239.95 - if you want their
>enclosure which is a box, rack panel, switch and power-on indicator, it's
>about another $60-70. It has the "normal repeater functions" such as 
>touchtone remote programming, touchtone muting, external PL decoder on/off,
>timers, ID'er, control receiver input, autopatch, and a one-band remote base
>(such as 29.6, 52.525, etc.) The autopatch also has reverse patch, Dial 9
>with dialing, long-distance enable/lockout, */# or special user code up/down
>commands, etc. etc

The North East Kansas ARC has several of these in operation.  While
they lack synthesized voice and many other features of the ACC 85, they
get the job done.  Unfortunately, they have *BAD* audio unless you do
some external audio filtering.  I think their CW generator produces
square waves!  :-(

Also, the RC-1000 is not FCC Part 68 Certified.  FCC Part 68 says the
telephone network can't be harmed by the repeater controller and
visa-versa.  Bob at S-Comm told me about a certification test where
10,000 volt spikes were applied to his autopatch interface.
Surprisingly, his repeater survived the test.  I believe S-Comm is the
only repeater manufacturer with a FCC Certified autopatch interface.

For my money, take a look at the S-Comm repeater controllers.  Besides
great audio, their non-autopatch controller (S-Com 5K) is $199 and has
many programming abilities that even ACC-85's don't have.  You can do
any series of repeater commands from any touch-tone or logic input.
S-Comm's other controllers, the 6K and 7K have autopatch and other 
features like a scheduler and multiple remote bases.


>From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
>
>Try an S-Comm 7K. Lot's of commercial repeater operators love their
>S-Comms, and for good reason. They are simple, reliable, and reasonably
>priced. They don't talk or play tunes, but they do work and work and work
>and work.

Sounds like you need the optional Voice Synthesizer. :-)  I even had
S-Comm program the custom word 'Kansas' into our 7K.


-Steve Schallehn KB0AGD
 Kansas State University
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: lkraft@core.rose.hp.com (Lyle Kraft)
Subject: Re: License delays
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:35:30 GMT
Organization: Systems Interface Lab/STD
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1.8 PL6]

	We tested some folks on Sept. 12,  ARRL sent paperwork to FCC
	on Sept. 30, and they received their licenses the week of 
	Dec. 3.  That works out to 8-9 weeks.

	L


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Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us (Sharon Machlis Gartenberg)
Subject: Re: DX Etiquette (an oxymoron)
Organization: Unixland Public Access Unix  (508) 655-3848
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 20:59:11 GMT

turner@safety.ics.uci.edu (Clark Savage Turner) writes:

>If two hams want
>to talk on 2 meters from a distance of 20 miles for several hours,
>do you really think this is wrong?  If two hams want to talk on 20
>meters from a distance of 20 miles for several hours, what business
>is it of ours????  

Of course, I presume you are referring to a simplex 2m QSO. I would have
a problem with those two people tying up a *repeater* for several hours,
unless the repeater happens to be owned and maintained solely by 1 or
both of the guys in the conversation.

The question that you answered, raised by someone else, is an interesting
one: If you just want to chat with a friend of yours, why not use the
telephone?

Well, first of all, it's hard to *make* new friends in other countries by
using your telephone. What do you suggest: We sit here at home and dial
phone numbers overseas at random, hoping to find someone who will engage
us in a pleasant conversation? 

OK, given that this is not practical, I guess once we find our friends,
we should move from the radio to the telephone? Even though we share a
hobby we both enjoy, we shouldn't be using the airwaves to talk to
each other because we might be taking precious bandwidth away from people
who collect cards and awards? 

I don't mean to belittle those who enjoy radiosport -- I enjoy it from
time to time myself. Yes, I have even qualified for DXCC (I'm part of
the infamous 7-year backlog, or whatever it is these days). However,
I find it a little disturbing that there are people who truly believe
their hobby collecting cards is WITHOUT QUESTION more important than
communications among FRIENDS. COMMUNICATION means more to some of us than
just exchanging information about signal strength and where to get a card.  

As for the possibility of using the telephone as an alternative ...
I would guess that the person suggesting this has not recently had a
20- or 30-minute chat with a friend overseas and subsequently paid the
phone bill, or he wouldn't be quite so glib about suggesting it. In
addition, not all my ham friends in the ex-USSR, for ex., have private telephones,
even though there is, technically, phone service there. 

I actually once heard a guy make a snide remark about this "not being a
telephone service" when I was having a lengthy QSO with someone. Gee,
what an awful thing, wanting to make friends instead of collecting
more cards and seeking more awards for my wall. ...

Sharon KC1YR 
-- 
Sharon Machlis Gartenberg
Framingham, MA  USA
email: sharon@unixland.natick.ma.us   or   uunet!think.com!unixland!sharon
From: jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: Phonetics needed for N9LEA
Date: 17 Dec 1992 04:05:28 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Department MSCS
NNTP-Posting-Host: studsys.mscs.mu.edu

In article <1992Dec16.235715.25994@news.acns.nwu.edu> jweiss@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Jerry Weiss) writes:
>In article <1gocfnINNfo@spool.mu.edu> jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson) writes:
>>I have thought of no good phonetics for N9LEA!  Any help would be appreciated.
>
>Grumble, not another string of notes about good phonetics.  Really ! :-(
>What a waste of time and resources.  My I suggest you find a frequency not
>in use, call cq, qrz or whatever and ask someone on the air.  

In my best Steve Martin, well soooooooooorry!  :)
-- 
Jason Hanson         |   915 W. Wisconsin Ave #1010   |     (414) 288-2179
Marquette University |   Milwaukee, WI 53233-2373     |     Ham Radio: N9LEA/AA
--  jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu       ==+==       n9lea@n0ary.#nocal.ca.usa.na  --
From: William=E.=Newkirk%Pubs%GenAv.Mlb@ns14.cca.CR.rockwell.COM
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Help with Cable ID
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:32:55 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

>I picked up a few lengths of cable that I'm trying to figure out.  It
>was on some kind of computer system (old mini, I assume), and doesn't
>appear to have any standard RG type numbering.
> 
>It's a simaese pair of two seperate pieces of coax, one has BNC connectors
>(female) on both ends, and the other piece has TNC connectors (female) on
>each end.
> 
>The labeling is as follows:
> 
>Wang Labs Inc  420-0057  E-41663  UL  AWM  Style 20063  80C  300V
 
This was cable used to connect a Wang workstation to it's file server (example
would be a Wang Office Information System).  The two different connectors are 
for separating input and output of the workstation (believe this is called the
"928" interface).  It's probably 93 ohms because i dimly recall the coax is 
really RG-62.

Due to corporate data processing standards of the day, we 
used to have a sizeable amount of Wang stuff. it was reliable, but Wang quit 
writing new software for the old systems (and you "Alliance" guys know what 
that was like...Indexing!) and the new stuff (the Professional Computer) was 
only partially hardware compatible (the disks fit in the slots) and software 
compatible (norton utils would run on 'em w/o a special version) with the IBM 
market.  

Then I could mention that the "transparent" document transfer from VS to OIS 
to Alliance to WPS to PCWP and back had lots of booby traps and discontinuties
that made rekeyboarding easier.  Turned out it was only transparent between 
exact systems (VS to VS, for example.  PCWP to VS didn't work well because the
PCWP was dumbed down to avoid competing with the big system [no stop code for 
one, no document headers, etc.]) and things were "damaged" when you went 
between dissimilar machines (the comm software would add/delete things it 
didn't think should go - end up with parts lists that read like:

	Res, cc, 47kL, 10%, 1/4W.....
	Cap, cer, 0.1mF, 20%, 50V....

and there was something about search and replace that made it difficult to fix
up the data - i forget what - probably the stop codes that needed to be there 
to make font changes work).

it finally reached a point where improvements existed for 3rd party software 
we were using, but not in a Wang version.  We dumped the Wang stuff and bought
clone IBM PCs and a banyan lan and haven't looked back.

73, bill wb9ivr
From: a-kevinp@microsoft.COM (Kevin Purcell, Rho)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: FT-790 power control for OSCAR use...
Date: 16 Dec 92 18:08:24 GMT
Organization: UCSD Usenet Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: ucsd.edu
Originator: daemon@ucsd.edu

You can use the ALC (which I presume the rig has on its accessory socket).

Connect a 10k to 100k pot across a 9v battery (-ve side to ground on 
the rig) or even use you rigs 12V power supply. Connect the wiper via a 
high value resistor (current limiting say 100K) to the ALC connector. 
Increasing the ALC voltage will reduce your power down to some fixed 
value. Make sure the voltage going into the ALC can't exceed say 10 or 
12 v (check the manual it might indicate the maximum voltage). In any 
even you shouldn't exceed the voltage applied to the rig from its power supply.

I did this a decade ago on an IC-260E 2m multi-mode rig, it works OK, 
but I give not warranty!

73 de Kevin Purcell N7WIM/G8UDP (Seattle, WA)          a-kevinp@microsoft.com
Do your interests match mine? If so call me. I'd like to hear from you.
QRP, Packet, TCP/IP, Digital voice, Macintosh, Spread Spectrum, Homebrew,
Satellites, Antenna design, Propagation, VHF/UHF weak signal, Microwave, QEX
From: tcmaint@pogo.wv.tek.com (TeleCom Maintenance)
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
Subject: Re: About transverters (was Weak signal VHF)
Date: 17 Dec 92 16:18:42 GMT
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Wilsonville,  OR.


	Speaking of transverters and such for HF rigs to operate at VHF
and UHF, does anyone have experience with the Yaesu FT-767? Right now I
have an FT-980 and that never had arrangements for transverters and I 
think the 767 would be a good rig to upgrade too. Does anyone familiar
with operating satelite and VHF/UHF SSB work have any knowledge of these
rigs?
Terry Burge,
KI7M
From: sbooth@lonestar.utsa.edu (Simon E. Booth)
Subject: Re: Clever Phonetics Needed--WK3C
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 09:36:52 GMT

In article <#m#@byu.edu> haymoree@bones (Edward Haymore) writes:
>flloyd@l1-a.West.Sun.COM (Fred Lloyd [Phoenix SE]) writes:
>:
>: Cute phonetics are a regular peeve of mine.  Most people don't realize
>: that they're not legal for the purposes of ID-ing.
>
>Where's THAT in the regs?
>
An ARRL book I bought back in June '89 has this prohibition mentioned.
BTW, I had purchased the book and code tapes to pursue a Novice license, but
was discouraged after reading a book on the FCC regs, about the code-only
restrictions placed on Novices thru General class Hams.  No offense to CW
users intended.  What's the latest on the no-code situation?   Simon
Newsgroups: rec.radio.amateur.misc
From: edw@sequent.com (Ed Wright)
Subject: Re: Phonetics needed for N9LEA
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems, Inc.
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 17:16:24 GMT

In article <1gocfnINNfo@spool.mu.edu> jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson) writes:
> I have thought of no good phonetics for N9LEA!  Any help would be appreciated.

Nearly 9 Leading Edge Amateurs

ANother phonetic from

KsHatriya Auscultating 9 Ailurophiles Hypothesizing Quodlibets

Ed
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From: awoodhull@hamp.hampshire.edu
Subject: Toyota r.f. problems?
Organization: Hampshire College
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 02:17:50 GMT

Toyota engine computer r.f. problems?

A while ago there was some discussion on this newsgroup about problems
with mobile operation in late-model Toyotas. I didn't pay much attention
at the time, but suddenly it has become relevant. Can anyone out there
e-mail me a summary or point me to an archive.  If specificity helps, I
am about to purchase a 1989 Corolla All-Trac Wagon, and I would like 
to operate 2, 10, and 15 meter mobile.

73 de Al Woodhull   N1AW
Internet: awoodhull@hamp.hampshire.edu
packet:   N1AW @ K1MEA.#WMA.MA.USA.NA
Fido:     Al Woodhull, 1:321/109
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