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From: iam@rlmtc.ENET.hcc.com
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Subject: Who are Rangers?
Date: 2 Oct 1992 09:29:33 -0500
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As a Scottish ex-patriate now living in the New York area, I have naturally
come to think of "Rangers" as the New York Rangers ice hockey team. All this
talk of a "Glasgow Rangers" has jogged my old memory of an outfit from Ibrox
who,if I remember correctly  brought shame to the country with their
open policy of apartheid as well as the hooliganism of their bigoted fans.
Perhaps my old compatre Sean Subterranean could advise me if such sectarian
policy is legal in your country and if not, should'nt the SFA ban them from
all competitions?
In future Sandy, would you please refer to your team as "Glasgow Rangers Flute
and Soccer Players Club" so as to clarify yourself.

the Jersey Jagsfan
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Bangkok Post : Oct 4 ---------------------------------------------------

Oct 3     Bangkok Bank        2         Thai Farmers Bank        0
            Sumet Akarapong        26
            Anan Pansaen           55

Bangkok Bank defeates TFB
-------------------------

     Bangkok Bank FC with five national players defeated Thai Farmers Banks
2-0 in the Semi-Professional League tournament at the Dhupatemiya Stadium
yesterday.
     Bangkok Bank dominated the action after 10 minutes of play and scored
their first half goal in the 26th when Sumet Akarapong and Prakasit Pimwong
combined to score.
     Thai Farmers Bank almost equalised in the 38th minute but as close
range header by TFB mid-fielder, Surachai Jaturapatpong unluckily hit
Bangkok Bank's Amalit Ekwong's leg and went away.
     Bangkok Bank finally made it 2-0, tem minutes into the second-half off
a free-kick by Anan Pansaen. The ball came off the leg of TFB defender and
went in.
     Though Thai Farmers Bank tried hard to reduce the lead, all their
efforts failed.
     Bangkok Bank's goalkeeper Somkiat Passajant brought off many saves.
     After nine matches, Bangkok Bank has finally taken the sole lead with
15 points while Thai Farmers Bank dropped to fourth place with 13 points.

     Standings : Oct 2 ---------------------------------------
     Team                    pld   w    d    l    +    -   pts
     ---------------------------------------------------------
     Bangkok Bank             9    4    3    2   13   11    15
     Port Authority           9    3    4    2   11    7    13
     Telephone Org (TOT)      9    3    4    2    9    6    13
     Thai Farmer Banks        9    3    4    2    9    9    13
     Royal Thai Army          9    2    6    1   13   10    12
     Osothasapha              9    3    2    4   12   18    11
     Royal Thai Air Force     9    2    3    4   12   19     9
     Ratchapracha             9    1    4    4    9    8     7
     ---------------------------------------------------------

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Subject: Re: Who are Rangers?
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 15:10:59 +0000







In message <9210021412.AA05785@gatekeeper.hcc.com> iam@rlmtc.ENET.hcc.com
(the Jersey Jagsfan)

>As a Scottish ex-patriate now living in the New York area, I have naturally
>come to think of "Rangers" as the New York Rangers ice hockey team. 

Isn't this rec.sport.soccer or am I accidently tuned into
rec.sport.organised.violence :-)

>All this
>talk of a "Glasgow Rangers" has jogged my old memory of an outfit from Ibrox
>who,if I remember correctly  brought shame to the country with their
>open policy of apartheid as well as the hooliganism of their bigoted fans.
>Perhaps my old compatre Sean Subterranean could advise me if such sectarian
>policy is legal in your country and if not, should'nt the SFA ban them from
>all competitions?

As far as I can tell the only people hurt by Rangers' secretarian policy
are Rangers themselves. Instead of vilifying them perhaps you should be
encouraging them?

>In future Sandy, would you please refer to your team as "Glasgow Rangers Flute
>and Soccer Players Club" so as to clarify yourself.

"Glasgow Rangers Flute Band" if they still exist are not officially connected
with Rangers FC.

the Jersey Jagsfan
From: shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re: A question on the Brazil side of '86
Date: 5 Oct 1992 18:13:18 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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My recollection is that Casagrande was horrible in Brazil's first
couple of games in the 1986 World Cup (1-0 wins over Spain and 
Algeria).  He was replaced, and, at the time, I don't think anyone
was bothered.  Of course, that Muller was playing in 1990 is another
story altogether!

Ken Shadlen
University of California at Berkeley
shadlin@garnet.berkeley.edu
From: dvlkhh@cs.umu.se
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Swedish league change
Date: 28 Sep 1992 14:17:56 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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    Allsvenskan, the highest Swedish division will consist of 14 teams next
season (1993). This was decided today at an extra meeting with representatives
for the destricts and the elite clubs and the FA direction.

Kent
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From: SYSMAINT%BRUFBA.BITNET@VTVM2.CC.VT.EDU (Luiz Alberto)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Championship of Sao Paulo- Br
Date: 30 Sep 1992 08:36:07 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
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 Championship of state of Sao Paulo , Brazil
 *******************************************

 Group A (Sep. 26th)

  Botafogo       0-1   Corinthians
  Group B
  Ponte Preta    2-2   Uniao Sao Joao

 Group A (Sep. 27th)

  Palmeiras      1-0   Portuguesa
  Guarani        2-1   Bragantino
  Sao Carlense   0-0   Juventus
  Santo Andre    1-1   Sao Paulo
  Noroeste       1-0   Santos
  Internacional  0-1   Ituano

 Group B (Sep. 27th)

  Novorizontino  2-0   Olimpia
  Marilia        2-0   Aracatuba
  Sao Jose       1-1   Catanduvense
  Rio Branco     1-2   America
  XV Piracicaba  1-0   XV Jau
  Mogi Mirim     1-0   Ferroviaria

Team            G    W   D   L    GF-GA  Points
------------------------------------------------
Corinthians     16   9   5   2    23-07     23
Sao Paulo       16   8   7   1    22-13     23
Santos          16   6   7   3    22-13     19
Guarani         16   5   9   2    17-14     19
Ituano          16   5   9   2    19-18     19
Bragantino      16   6   4   6    16-17     16
------------------------------------------------
Portuguesa      16   4   8   4    17-13     16
Palmeiras       16   4   8   4    09-08     16
Noroeste        16   4   7   5    11-14     15
Sao Carlense    16   4   5   7    17-21     13
Santo Andre     16   2   9   5    10-16     13
Botafogo        16   4   5   7    14-23     13
Juventus        16   2   8   6    11-16     12
Internacional   16   1   5  10    05-20     07

Group B
-------
Team            G    W   D   L    GF-GA  Points
------------------------------------------------
Ponte Preta     17  10   6   1    30-17     26
Mogi Mirim      17  11   2   4    29-15     24
------------------------------------------------
Rio Branco      18   9   6   3    26-13     24
Uniao Sao Joao  18   7   8   3    23-18     22
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From: LIPSCOJA@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu ()
Subject: net soccer
Organization: Vanderbilt University 
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 1992 04:24:19 GMT
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Can anyone post/email information on play-by-email soccer games on the 
Internet?  I heard about some in discussions of an Australian-rules
version, but haven't seen anything here about them...

Andy Lipscomb
lipscoja@ctrvax.vanderbilt.edu
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From: taylor@sun.soe.clarkson.edu (Ross Taylor,Peyt312,6652,2655436)
Subject: Rollover throwin legality query
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Mon, 5 Oct 1992 14:19:01 GMT

In a recent NCAA game between my university (Clarkson) and RPI womens
teams, one of the clarkson players did a rollover throw in as came
to the fore by the US during the last world cup.  The RPI coach
protested but the refs allowed it to stand on the basis that the 
throwers feet were touching the ground.

Now, I thought that this type of throw had been made illegal.  can anyone
confirm or deny this for me.  Perhaps it remains legal in NCAA play.

Ross Taylor
From: jmcbride@ccvax.ucd.ie
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Re Arsenal v Man City
Date: 30 Sep 92 09:02:08 GMT
Organization: University College Dublin

In article <1992Sep29.095339.33230@bas-a.bcc.ac.uk>, bigmac@nmr.ion.bpmf.ac.uk (David MacManus) writes:
> 
> 		Arsenal 1 Man City 0
> 	(Wright 19mins)
> 
> 	Match played 28 Sept, shown live on Sky.
> 	
> Better performance by the Gunners, well deserved win and should have been
> more than 1-0.
> Only one Arsenal player booked (must be a record)... Limpar for disputing 
> decision not to award a penalty.


BUT.....the question must be asked:

At what end was the goal scored?  The last time I heard, we still hadn't put 
the ball in at the mural end.  How long can this particular drought last for?



james p mc bride
From: fischer@iesd.auc.dk (Lars Peter Fischer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Swedish hooligans in Denmark
Date: 1 Oct 92 03:33:56 GMT
Organization: Mathematics and Computer Science, Aalborg University


Sept. 30th AIK Stockholm played AGF in Aarhus, Denmark, in the 2nd leg
of the first round of the EC2. Some 500-600 Swedish fans went to see
their team. Unfortunately, it appears that a number of these where
skin-head type trouble makers with neo-nazi ideas. Having got their
fill on the ferries from Varberg to Grenaa, these people arrived in
Aarhus chanting a combination of "Heja Stockholm" and "Heil Hitler",
shouting "Jewish swine" after bewildered citizens, and in general
assaulting passersbys, threatening people with knives, throwing
bottles at peoples and cars, knocking over passing bicyclist, etc.
People with "foreign" looks was a favourite target, and a number of
combat-like situations developed, turning central Aarhus into a scene
of violence.

Some 30 Swedish criminals where arrested and several Danes where
injured.

On Aarhus Stadium, regular shouts of "Sieg Heil" where heard and Nazi
symbols where on display. Luckily the Swedish spectators where
isolated efficiently from the Danish crowd -- something rarely done
here. It appears that the authorities had been warned in advance by
Swedish police, and in fact some 50 criminals where arrested in Sweden
before ever making it here -- thanks.

Do any Swedes out there know anything about these guys, apparently
members of a so-called "fan-club" called "Black Army"? I believe
people here are quite surprised by this. It caused a very fearful
reaction in Aarhus -- my mother lives there, and I talked to her on
the phone tuesday. She had witnessed several scenes passing through
town early in the day, and she was scared. She was canceling a meeting
tuesday evening as she didn't dare being outside while these people
where in town -- very unlike her, I'd say.

/Lars
--
Lars Fischer, fischer@iesd.auc.dk | It takes an uncommon mind to think of
CS Dept., Aalborg Univ., DENMARK. | these things.  -- Calvin
From: sc4n+@andrew.cmu.edu (Saverio Cittadini)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.soccer
Subject: Baresi leaves the national team !
Date: 2 Oct 92 15:35:45 GMT
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Shocking news for Italian football ! Yesterday Franco Baresi, libero and
captain of Milan and of Italy, asked Italy's coach Arrigo Sacchi not to
be capped anymore for the national team. According to newspapers, Baresi
claimed that the reason for this is neither stress, nor lack of motivation,
nor pressure from his club, but that "it's time to make room for younger
players" (note: Baresi is 32) and that he needs to spend more time with
his family.
Sacchi said that he is sad for this decision, but that he respects it
since Baresi "deserves respect".

Now, I think this deserves some comments. Of course, Baresi should be
free not to play for Italy if he doesn't want to, but...
Isn't the motivation pathetic ? Yes, it's true that Baresi is getting
old and that he is not as good as he was a few years ago. 
And it's true that in Italy there are other good liberos (e.g. Parma's
Minotti). Nevertheless, not only Sacchi, but practically all Italian
football fans consider Baresi to be still the best, and by far. In my
opinion, the real reason is different: Baresi is not going to leave
Milan, where he earns a lot of money, but something he clearly considers
much less important... after all it's just the national team, there are
others that can make his job, you know...
Now, I've never been too "patriotic", even with respect to the football
national team. But this, in my opinion, is really too much. A champion
like Baresi cannot disappoint all the Italian fans this way: it's just
*shameful* !!! And I think that, if Baresi deserves a lot of respect for
what he does on the pitch (I mean, when he plays football, not when he
tries to break the opponent's legs with nasty fouls), morally he doesn't
anymore, having lost - still IMHO - his dignity.

In other news, Cosenza midfielder Massimiliano Catena died yesterday in
a car accident. He was 23, and a very promising player. A terrible loss
for Cosenza, which few years ago lost another player, Donato Bergamini,
still in a car accident.

                      Saverio

e-mail: CITTADINI@SIVAX.CINECA.IT
"The sky is light-blue, since God is a Napoli fan"
V I N C I   P E R   N O I   M A G I C O   N A P O L I  !!!

P.S.: Almost forgetting... last Tuesday I had the chance to meet, here
 in Siena, our friend Arturo Tena-Colunga. We had a really nice day,
 visiting Siena, talking about football and many other things, and
 watching the Anorthosis-Juventus match on TV. It was great to meet him
 in person; I hope he may be back on the net as soon as possible...
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Subject: Re: Leo Rodriguez
From: zxnoueih@wsuhub.uc.twsu.edu (...VALENCIA...)
Date: 30 Sep 92 11:55:25 CST
Organization: Wichita State University, Wichita, Ks

In article <1992Sep29.044958.1778@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>, jrod_ltd@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (J. Rodriguez) writes:
> In <fh11.717738507@sol> fh11@sol.acs.unt.edu (Brozovic Douglas) writes:
> 
>>Does anyone know where Leonardo Rodriguez of Argentina is currently playing?
>>I had thought he went to Marseille and was loaned out...to which club?  How
>>is is currently playing?  I only saw him play a couple of times but he 
>>looked quite a prospect...
> 
> Leonardo should still be playing at Toulon where he was loaned last year.  I
> was very excited when Marseille bought him (because he is good, not just
> because I have his name) but we had too many foreign-players.  When we sold
> Mozer and Steven and Waddle I thought that we would take him back, but instead
> we bought Boksic and Voller, and so Leo remains at Toulon.
> 

I think that L. Rodriguez is now playing in Italy (don't remember the team
name though), not Toulon. As a matter of fact, I read in France Football
that Toulon hasn't paid him his salary from last year yet!
Although he is playing in Italy, I think that he is still the "property"
of Marseille. I'm not 100% sure though.


> 
> John
> 

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From: bootsma@fys.ruu.nl (Timo Bootsma)
Subject: Dutch EC results
Organization: Physics Department, University of Utrecht, The Netherlands
Date: Thu, 1 Oct 1992 09:48:18 GMT

Dutch results in EC: 

EC1: Zalgiris Vilnius-PSV 0-2 (in Eindhoven: 6-0)
25. Numan 0-1
37. Romario 0-2

EC2: Hapoel Petach Tikva-Feyenoord 2-1 (in Rotterdam: 1-0)
Feyenoord goal scored by Fra"ser (60.)

EC3: Ajax-Austria Salzburg 3-1 (in Salzburg: 3-0)
25.(?) Pettersson 1-0
49. Bergkamp 2-0
60. Reitinger (sp?) 2-1
79. Pettersson 3-1

     Derry City-Vitesse 1-2 (in Arnhem: 3-0)
Vitesse goals scored by Straal and Laamers

     FC Groningen-FC Vac (Hungary) 1-1 (in Vac: 1-0)	  
45. Fu"lle 0-1
55. Huizingh 1-1

So only FC Groningen is not qualified (as usual...)	  
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From: jcostas@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (constantinos.n.tsioras)
Subject: Greek First Division results
Keywords: 4th round - games played Sept 26th and 27th
Organization: AT&T
Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 14:02:34 GMT

Saturday 26th Sept:

OLYMPIAKOS - ARIS   2-0  (tough win for Olympiakos, Savvidis scored the
                          second goal in injury time).
KSANTHI - PANATHINAIKOS  2-0
AEK - PANAHAIKI  2-1  (The Nigerian Otitzi put the visitors one-up but then
                       scored an own goal. AEK got the winning goal in
                       the last minute of the game through Stamatis).


Sunday 27th Sept:

LARISA - PAOK  2-1  (0-1 Jurgevic 3', 1-1 Iza 34', 2-1 Iza 85')
IRAKLIS - DOKSA  3-2
EDESSAIKOS - ATHINAIKOS  4-2
OFI - KORINTHOS  3-0
IONIKOS - KALAMARIA  1-1
PIERIKOS - APOLLON ATHENS  0-0


Table after 4 games
-------------------
 1. AEK              11- 3   12  
 -. OLYMPIAKOS       10- 1   12
 3. OFI              10- 3    9
 4. PANATHINAIKOS     6- 3    7
 -. IRAKLIS THESSAL.  6- 5    7
 -. SKODA KSANTHI     5- 3    7
 -. LARISA            3- 4    7
 8. DOKSA DRAMAS     10- 9    6
 -. PAOK THESSAL.     7- 6    6
 -. PANAHAIKI PATRA   6- 6    6
11. IONIKOS NIKEA     5- 5    5
12. EDESSAIKOS        8-10    4
 -. ARIS THESSAL.     3- 5    4
14. PIERIKOS          2- 5    3
15. APOLLON KALAMARIA 4- 8    2
16. ATHINAIKOS        4-11    1
 -. KORINTHOS         3-10    1
 -. APOLLON ATHENS    1- 7    1


Top Scorers:   1. Dimitiradis (AEK), Zoumpoulis (Edessaikos): 5 goals
               2. Nioblias (OFI), Jurgevic (PAOK): 4 goals


This week we have the return matches of the European competitions:

Wednesday 30th Sept:  EC1: APOEL Nicossia vs. AEK Athens  (1-1)
                      EC2: Chernomorets Odessa vs. Olympiakos  (1-0)
                      EC3: Panathinaikos vs. Electroputere Craiova (6-0)

Thursday  1st Oct:    EC3: PAOK Thessaloniki vs. Paris St. Germain (0-2)



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From: maes@prl.philips.nl (Maurice Maes)
Subject: Re: Reading FC really are the best
Organization: Philips Research Laboratories, Eindhoven, The Netherlands
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 1992 16:24:56 GMT

In article <9m5qb9ar@cck.coventry.ac.uk> csi095@cch.coventry.ac.uk (DIBBLE) writes:
<In article <92269.112841KSNIDVON@ESOC.BITNET< <KSNIDVON@ESOC.BITNET< writes:
<<consider the facts-
<<
<<- Reading have a 100% record at Wembley.
<That's because they have only been twice haven't they?
<
<<-Reading have never scored less than 4 goals in a Wembley final
<That's due to the above.
<
<<
<<- Reading have never lost a Simod Cup match
<<
<< [etc. stuff deleted]

<Well I feel that you are not very intelligent.

Well I feel you have no sense of humor.
-- 

Maurice Maes

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