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From: steve@Nyongwa.CAM.ORG (Steve M. Robbins)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Some considerations when making a new Linux kernel
Date: 25 Jan 93 20:11:31 GMT
Organization: Radio Free Nyongwa -- public unix/usenet in Montreal, 284-6693
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In article <C1DGHG.H3r@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil> dsc3pzp@nmrdc1.nmrdc.nnmc.navy.mil (Philip Perucci) writes:
>In article <1993Jan24.005436.578@unislc.uucp> erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp) writes:
>>Mario Guerra (MGUERRA%UCRVM2.BITNET@mitvma.mit.edu) wrote:
>>
>>: One should be careful of checking some parameters in the general Makefile:
>>: 
>>: [ ... ]

>>Also, make sure that the lines in mm/memory.c that bomb processes that write
>>to code space are commented out (look for SEGV) if you are running uucp or
>>certain releases of getty_ps.  I have to do that, because the latest version of
>>getty_ps I can find will thrash if I don't.
>>-- 
>
>Could you elaborate?  I use getty_ps and have no problem.  Still, if I can
>improve the kernel for my configuration...

It sounds like Ed hasn't set up his getty or init stuff correctly.  There
isn't any need to muck up the kernel for getty_ps, nor for taylor uucp that
I have seen.

I did compile uucp with -fwritable-strings, but that was out of laziness.  
I suspect fixing the uucp sources to behave isn't too much trouble.

For getty, you don't even need writable strings.  You do need to have a
recent version (gettyps204) since the earlier ones had a stupid bug in them.


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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: harry@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (Kuo-Chen Chang)
Subject: HELP NEEDED -- how to create /dev/scd0 for xcdplayer
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 13:22:40 GMT

Hello netters.

Could someone help me with this?  

	I am using CD FUSSION from NEC.  I would like to use this
	drive within Linux (SLS 1.0 but with XFree86 2.1 not 2.0.)
	I recompiled the kernel with CDROM support ON.  But each time
	I boot up, Linux reports "cdrom drive(0)".  Does it mean 
	the CD FUSSION is not supported under Linux?

	I downloaded WORKMAN and XCDPLAYER-NEC from tsx-11.  Both 
	complained missing device entries.  WORKMAN could not find
	/dev/sr0 and XCDPLAYER could not find /dev/scd0.  I followed
	the README and used the following command to create /dev/scd0:

		mknod -m 500 /dev/scd0 b 11 0

	But got the same complains.  Any suggestion?

--Harry
From: tjrc1@cus.cam.ac.uk (T.J.R. Cutts)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: How to work X and S3 cards?
Keywords: S3 X How Help Setup
Date: 25 Jan 93 18:26:22 GMT
Organization: U of Cambridge, England

In article <1993Jan25.173242.23046@infodev.cam.ac.uk> I wrote:

>1)  Get XS3 server from ft.robots.ox.ac.uk in directory /pub/linux/S3
>    Get version 0.2b for 911 cards, 0.3.1 for anything else.
>
>2)  Get the example Xconfig file in the same directory.
>
>3) Uncompress the XS3 server in /usr/X386/bin
>
>4) Replace /usr/X386/lib/X11/Xconfig with the S3 version and adjust the mouse
>   line for your mouse.
>
>5) Edit the file /usr/X386/lib/X11/xinit/xinitrc so that it runs the S3 server
>   and not X or X386

Aaaargh!  Sorry... I meant /usr/X386/lib/X11/xinit/xserverrc

>
>6) Type startx and go for it!
>
>NB:  You may find your card cannot cope with the 80Hz 1024x768 line in
>Xconfig.  Mine does not, for example.  Comment it out and try the 65Hz line
>instead, which works fine on my machine, with no discernible flicker.

Apologies!

Tim.
From: marc@r-node.pci.on.ca (Marc G Fournier)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: serial I/O in kernel used in new SLS
Date: 20 Jan 93 23:20:20 GMT
Organization: R-node Public Access Unix - 1 416 249 5366

Hi...

	Me again...been awhile, eh? Not long enough?

	Well, I'm not asking any questions this time 
concerning how to...just a problem that I'm having
that I'm wondering if has been addressed/fixed in the 
kernel used in the new SLS release, or in 0.99pl3, as I'll
compile that and use it if the serial I/O has changed from
pl2 to pl3. 

	serial I/O - I'm running a Worldblazer on an AST 4Port
Board with a 16550 chip for that line.  The problem is that
I'm getting failed connections, but only in the receiving
direction.  This is probably a known problem, but I'm wondering
if the new serial.c(?) driver that was released awhile back
addressed this?  Anyone with experience on this?  My DTE is
locked at 38400, if that helps

	
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: mchen@sol4.cs.psu.edu (Michael Chen)
Subject: [Q] Xconfig help for Trident 8900?
Distribution: comp
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:01:33 GMT

  I can't get X to come up correctly, even if I use X386mono.  It says that
the mouse isn't there, wrecks the screen, and comes back with an error.
Help! (e-mail is probably better)

-- Mike
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: cracauer@wavehh.hanse.de (Martin Cracauer)
Subject: Disk-Benchmarks
Organization: Hanse Networking e. V., Hamburg, Germany
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 08:55:30 GMT

I need results for the 'bonnie' Disk-Benchmark for the various scsi-
cards, especially Adaptec 174?, 154? and WD 7000 fast.

If you will run it on your machine, but cannot get bonnie, I will send
you a diskette.

Please note exact machine type, disk type and type of filesystem.

I will post a summary of the results I receive.

Thanks!


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From: daj+@CMU.EDU (Demian A. Johnston)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Token Ring (Again)
Date: 21 Jan 93 19:49:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.sfLsfsC00WBNA9yKUA
Organization: Junior, Math/Computer Science, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Any work yet done for an IBM token ring network adapter device driver
for TCP/IP???

    (Someone could make a lot of people at CMU very happy.)
    Demian  <daj+@CMU.EDU>   <dj1l+@andrew.cmu.edu>
From: ralf@ark.abg.sub.org (Ralf Stephan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: .99.2 to .99.3 : getting it to boot
Date: 23 Jan 93 17:49
Organization: Not Very Ltd.

ghod@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu writes:
> >> bad bottom half entry.
> 
> ... Now, I don't mean to imply that using the diffs is what's causing
> the trouble, but when weird stuff like that starts happening to me, my first
> instinct is to start over with a nice fresh copy of everything.

Yes.  I can report that my "bad bottom half entry" problems with the
patched (099.0 to 1 to 2) kernel sources went away when I compiled the
fresh 099.2 ones.  Obviously the diffs.

ralf
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From: kg@gnusys.GUN.de (Klaus Guhr)
Subject: max pid
Organization: GNUSYS // Private Linux Site
Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1993 01:25:15 GMT
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL7]

what is the max pid in Linux 0.99.pl3 ?


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From: drg50@Frobozz.COM (Dave Gavin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: SLS missing linux/autoconfig.h ?
Date: 28 Jan 93 15:17:06 GMT
Reply-To: drg50@JUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Dave Gavin)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Boston MA

In article <1k7d1tINNlu@iskut.ucs.ubc.ca> andy@orchid.bdc.ubc.ca (Andrew Dwelly) writes:
>
>I started uploading SLS on the 25th of January - my first attempt
>at a linux installation. Up to now it seems to have gone very
>smoothly. Finally I got to the point where I wanted to make
>a new kernel because our ethernet hardware sits on IRQ 3 rather than 5.
>
>I modified Space.c appropriately, did a cd to the top of the source tree
>and a make clean which worked, then a make dep which failed.
>It seems that /usr/include/config.h has the line 
>
>#include <linux/autoconfig.h>
>
>.. and autoconfig seems to be missing from my distribution. Is this
>a bug or am I missing something ?
>
>In the meanwhile I've adjusted the hardware to fit linux's defaults so
>its not a major problem. But I'm curious as to what's going on. All
>comments gratefully received.
>
>Apart from this everything seems to be working fine. I'm very
>impressed.
>
>Andy
>--
>Andrew Dwelly - Biosciences Computing Unit, UBC, Vancouver, Canada
>(604) 822-6527, andy@bcu.ubc.ca 

 Did you do a "make config" first ? ;-) I found the same problem, which
went away when I RTFM and did the following sequence;

make config
make dep
make clean
make disk

Regards - Dave Gavin
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From: john.will@satalink.com (John Will) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: remove LILO?
Date: 27 Jan 93 18:18:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Datamax/Satalink Connection * Ivyland, PA (215) 443-9434
Reply-To: john.will@satalink.com (John Will) 

BH>You just have to overwrite the last two bytes. If no valid signature appears
BH>at the end of the current contents of the Master-Boot-Block, DOS fdisk will
BH>write a new one. But there is no guarantee that fdisk will actually do so.
BH>Their experience is that you shouldn't expect any data to be available after
BH>fdisk rewrites an invalid MBR, even if previously existing DOS partitions
BH>are re-allocated with identical cylinder ranges as at the time of their
BH>initial creation. So backup your stuff.

MS-DOS 5.0 will reliably write a Master Boot Record on an existing volume
without trashing anything by just using the undocumented command:

FDISK /MBR

I've done this for a number of systems, even my Linux one, no problems,
and no lost data.  You then have the stock MS-DOS MBR on your drive.
---
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From: gt9922a@prism.gatech.EDU (KD4APQ)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Ahead VGA card
Date: 27 Jan 93 02:27:04 GMT
Organization: North Avenue Trade School

I have noticed some people are trying to use the Ahead VGA card to run X-windows.  Does anyone have it working under either the mono or colour server?  If so,
could you please send me your Xconfig as I am desparately trying to get the
*&)*(& thing to work on my machine.  Thanks.

Scott
gt9922a@prism.gatech.edu
From: kankkune@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Risto Kankkunen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: big-endian linux cross-compiler?
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:25:29 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki, Department of Computer Science

>You will probably want to get binutils 2.0, since they supposedly have support
>for cross-compiling across systems that have endian differences.

Yes, that's right. 1.9 won't work, 2.0 will. I have tried both.

>But, not to throw a damper on things I have never been able to get my cross
>compiler to make working executables. I can compile up to the .o stage and
>then take them home and finish, but no executable runs.

It's a bit tricky, but it can be done. At one point I could make
executalbes by cutting off extra 3K after the 1K of the file...
Currently everything works beatifully, however. The problems are due to
deficiencies in ld. If you send me a note, I can send you a crude patch,
but you have to be quick. I'll be off the net for at least a month
starting next week.

>(BTW this is from a sun4 system to linux)

Sparc is my platform, too.
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                  dos, windows, nt... are you a victim of the MS disease?
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Old documentation (was Re: Linux 0.98 Install HELP!)
From: David Pincus <PINHC@CUNYVM.BITNET>
Date: Sunday, 24 Jan 1993 19:56:43 EST
Organization: City University of New York/ University Computer Center

I agree with Matt that the old beginner's guide and getyting tarted guides shou
ld be moved to the attic at tsx and sunsite et.al. Although I am a beginner, I
have a very reliable usenet feed, many new linuxers are feeding off of fidonet
and they  don't have the chance to read c.o.l. to find out the status of the do
c project.  In stead of removing the old docs how about someone just putting a
disclaimer at the top of them saying that the docs are really old and should be
 used with caution.
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: thostr@stud.cs.uit.no (Thomas Strandenaes)
Subject: INGRES updates?
Organization: University of Tromsoe, Norway
Date: Sun, 24 Jan 1993 21:31:35 GMT

Has anyone got any information on the Linux-port of the Ingres
package? Last thing I heard was that it broke on .99x flavours,
and that work had to be done on it. Is anyone working on this?

//thomas
From: michaelw@mcshh.Hanse.DE (Michael Will)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: 99p3+extfs: Files disappeared miraculousely
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 06:57:34 GMT
Organization: Point of Presence & MCS Hamburg

I am not shure whether this is a bug or just my fault, but it happened
shortly after a friend of my reported the same problem.

He downloaded the sls-package in his directory /root/incoming, while
doing this he added a user with adduser, then deleted it again.

After some time letting the system running the files simply where not there
anymore!

He was very frustrated, phoned me up to tell me, and we had no clue why.

Then after I downloaded some things, I found some files I where shure not to
have deleted where gone too.

I panicked, and downloaded the source for 0.99p4 onto a msdos-fs, and the
compiling went fine - I am not shure whether this all had anything todo with
the kernel, but I am wondering because of the two incidents...

Anyone had any experiences of this kind?

Greetings, Michael Will
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: torvalds@klaava.Helsinki.FI (Linus Torvalds)
Subject: Re: Freeze up on X
Organization: University of Helsinki
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 12:52:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan21.181502.23485@miles.com> dennisf@miles.com (Dennis Flaherty) writes:
>
>Here's another clue.  Try this: when your system freezes, running X, try
>MOVING THE MOUSE.  It's weird!!  But moving the mouse actually makes the
>system run!  Stop moving the mouse, and the system freezes again.  And
>this only happens with 0.99.3, not 0.99.2.

Get pl4, and it should be gone.  There was a bug in the handling of
uninitialized interrupts in pl3, where they could result in either the
wrong interrupt mask being loaded leading to interrupt lock-out or (in
some cases) bit corruption at the user level.  The symptoms are exactly
as you describe: a good interrupt that didn't happen to be locked out
will correct the interrupt mask, and the system goes on (it can be
moving the mouse, but it might also be a keyboard event etc). 

		Linus
From: celi@sbustd.rz.uni-sb.de (Cedric Lichtenau)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: ET4000 or Speedstar ?
Date: 26 Jan 1993 12:57:19 GMT
Organization: Studenten-Mail, Rechenzentrum Universitaet des Saarlandes
NNTP-Posting-Host: sbustd.stud.uni-sb.de


  I plan to use linux and X on my computer and want to buy a new video
  card. I was looking for the Speedstar X24, but I've read in the Linux
  FAQ that this card was not "officially" supported. Is this true ?
  Where could I found drivers for it (via ftp-server) ?
  What are the advantages/inconvenients of an ET4000 vs. Speedstar X24 ?

Thanks in advance!

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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: riepe@ifwsn4.ifw.uni-hannover.de (Michael Riepe)
Subject: Re: Safety Belt / SLS
Summary: me too
Reply-To: riepe@ifwsn4.ifw.uni-hannover.de
Organization: University of Hannover (Germany), IFW
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:08:07 GMT

In article 94187@mavenry.UUCP, maven@mavenry.UUCP (Norman Hamer) writes:
|> 
|> Something I'd like to see in the MKFS/MKEFS program would be a "are you 
|>really sure" thing if you try to write a linux filesystem onto a partition 
|>which isn't marked as linux... I tried to install the 99p2 SLS release, 
|>ended up writing a linux partition over my DOS partition (user stupidity), 
|>had to restore from week-old backups... Ugh. While I don't have anyone but 
|>myself to _blame_, it sure woulda been nice if it had said "this partition 
|>is marked as DOS... use fdisk to change to type 81 before proceeding"... 
|>

The same applies to mkswap - I once wrote a swap signature into the FAT
of my DOS partition (fortunately, I could fix it with dd).

-- 
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 Universit"at Hannover
 Institut f"ur Fertigungstechnik und Spanende Werkzeugmaschinen
 Schlosswender Str. 5               W-3000 Hannover 1 (Germany)
 ...so long, and thanks for all the fish!
From: probreak@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (James Michael Chacon)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Is the SLS on tsx-11 *ready* yet?
Date: 21 Jan 1993 00:41:46 -0600
Organization: Kansas State University
NNTP-Posting-Host: matt.ksu.ksu.edu

johnsonm@stolaf.edu (Michael K. Johnson) writes:


>In article <1jkaccINN8a0@uwm.edu> rick@ee.uwm.edu (Rick Miller) writes:

>   ...and what about Peter's ttyS? cludge?  Personally, I don't like it.

>   But what do I know, I'm just the Linux Device Registrar.

>Don't get huffy.  There is nothing morally imperitive about ttysn,
>either.  They used to be called tty64, tty65, tty66, etc, and then
>they were switched to make it more reasonable.  However, it was not
>noticed at the time that that got in the way of high pty's.  Peter has
>taken a brave step in eliminating namespace contention.  Don't call it
>a kludge if you are the "Registrar" and haven't come up with anything
>better yourself.  You are only entitled to call it a kludge if you
>have proposed something better, IMHO, and I haven't seen any better
>proposals, from you or anyone else.

>michaelkjohnson

I just wanted to add that I like it myself when I heard about it. I
remember the tty64, etc.. and didn't like those. Naming them ttys? really
confuses somethings that assume those are ptys. When I heard it had been
done on the SLS dist. I decided to make them here. Gives me 64 pty's now
instead of only 48 which is a big plus.

James
From: haible@ma2s2.uucp (Bruno Haible)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Gnuplot 3.2  (Non X11) & Pari.
Keywords: pari, ushort
Date: 28 Jan 93 17:30:21 GMT
Organization: University of Karlsruhe, Germany
NNTP-Posting-Host: ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de

> 2) Do some one have the binary of Pari?

No need for that. Pari compiles out of the box after you remove the
"typedef unsigned short ushort;" from the include file.

Bruno Haible
haible@ma2s2.mathematik.uni-karlsruhe.de
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: buchanan@rintintin.Colorado.EDU (BUCHANAN TIMOTHY E)
Subject: SLS won't install disks a3 and up; why not?
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 16:05:06 GMT

There really does seem to be something wrong w/ the SLS sysinstall, perhaps
because of the new compress format? I don't know, but here is what happens-

doinstall asks for diska2 and installs bin,faq, and shlibs. Then it asks for
disks a3 and so on. It takes no install action on each, simply asking for the
next disk. The boot disk it creates at the end will not work. Afterwards,
commands such as ls won't work either.

The sysinstall script seems to be the problem. That script is somewhat beyond
me, but it seems to need a dir /install but doesn't create it on the floppy.
Trying sysinstall -view on a later run produces a *.

Could someone pls help on this? All my SLS files date from Jan 19.

Tx,
Timothy. 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: pmacdona@sanjuan (Peter MacDonald)
Subject: lpd
Organization: University of Victoria, Victoria, BC, CANADA
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 06:38:29 GMT

I missed the services file posted that supposedly fixes lpd. Can
someone send it or the lp entry to me.

Also, shouldn't lpd be started in inittab?  Doesn't
inittab kill off such processes nicely, allowing
lpd.lock to be removed?

Anyways, rc.local should probably cleanup afterwards,
in case of a crash.

Peter
pmacdona@sanjuan.uvic.ca

Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: sidney@inmos.co.uk (Sean Harris) or sidney@inmos.com
Subject: SLS: No lilo
Keywords: SLS lilo
Organization: INMOS Limited, Bristol, UK
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 12:28:55 GMT

Hi There,

Can somebody help me. I have the SLS version of linux which I have managed to
install after a few problems. However it appears to have failed to install
lilo. When I lioked at the disks I found that disk a4 has a lilo.tpz.Z file
on it. So I tried various option to sysinstall to try and install it and none
of them seem to work. I even tried copying the file to hard drive uncompressing
it and doing the install from the end file.

Thanks for your help

Sean Harris,



Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: nigel@gamble.uucp (Nigel Gamble)
Subject: Re: Problem printing TeX output with Ghostscript on DJ500
Organization: Nigel Gamble, Consultant
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 06:52:37 GMT

In <1993Jan19.235826.13425@sfu.ca> rchen@fraser.sfu.ca (Robert Chen) writes:
>In article <1jgi10INNqhi@nz12.rz.uni-karlsruhe.de> ig25@rz.uni-karlsruhe.de writes:
>>This works, sort of, except that the output looks truly horrible because
>>a lot of bits seem to get dropped, resulting in both little white
>>recangles where there are supposed to be none and parts of letters
>>being too thin.

>There is no place for "bits to get dropped" in the 
>    .tex -> .dvi -> .ps -> deskjet
>chain.  Whatever the problem is, I suspect that this is not it. (unless
>your data files are somehow getting corrupted, which is unlikely)

I would be interested to hear if my new interrupt driven printer driver
would make any difference to your output.  One of the reasons that I wrote it
was that the existing driver seemed to be dropping characters when I
used it to print ghostscript files.  It is important to get the tuneable
parameters correct for your particular combination of CPU and printer,
which is why some people see problems and others don't.

The interrupt driver doesn't need tuning, and circumvents these problems.
If you are up to replacing a couple of kernel files and rebuilding, you
will find it on tsx-11.mit.edu:/pub/linux/ALPHA/lp/lpirq.1.tar.Z
If not, you'll have to wait until it gets into an official kernel
release.
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