HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: cq171@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Joe Hoover)
Newsgroups: oh.k12
Subject: Internet Access
Date: 4 Jan 1993 05:30:41 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, Ohio (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


    Does anyone know what the plans are for using the OECN network for an Internet connection to Ohio Schools?
                                                Joe Hoover
                                              soea_hoover@tccsa.oecn.ohio.gov
-- 
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            soea_hoover@tccsa.oecn.ohio.gov
            m8102043@llohio.linknet.com
Newsgroups: oh.k12,osu.k12
From: aa491@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Don Huff)
Newsgroups: oh.test
Subject: Test
Date: 11 Jan 1993 18:37:40 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa491@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Don Huff)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu


This is a test posting.
From: tgt@cbnews.cb.att.com (timothy.g.thompson)
Newsgroups: oh.news
Subject: testing again
Keywords: none
Date: 12 Jan 93 14:53:20 GMT
Organization: AT&T

Please ignore.
Newsgroups: oh.news
From: tgt@cbnews.cb.att.com (timothy.g.thompson)
Subject: testing
Organization: AT&T
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 14:50:00 GMT
Keywords: none

There really should be an oh.test group for testing, but. . .
Newsgroups: can.uucp
From: path@cs.toronto.edu (Canadian UUCP Map Coordinator)
Subject: New maps posted (and reposted to can.uucp.maps)
Date: 6 Jan 93 19:55:04 GMT

Wed Jan  6 02:46:51 EST 1993

If you haven't updated your map entry since Jan 91, please do so.
The housecleaning binge is imminent.  Ancient staledated UUCP map
entries will be removed from u.can.* at the end of Jan/93.

		--ed	(Ed Hew)	<path@cs.toronto.edu>

Map deletions:

  cccmtl    - no longer connects to anyone; lorelei@uunet.uu.net (Lorelei)

Map patching:
  attcan    - marked remaining links terminal to reflect attcan
	      single hop forwarding policy.
  cspace    - converted link data to lower case.

Rejected submissions: (none)

Map changes:

New entries received and processed for the following sites: (country.province)
shown for old sites, new sites marked with a trailing *)

42 entries	(Jan  6/93 compile)
7 new sites

altitude(can.qc)     geac(can.on)         nott(can.on)         snowdrop(can.on)
amaron(*)            integra(*)           oneb(can.bc)         softy(can.bc)
argentic(can.on)     isg(can.on)          onet(can.on)         suntalk(can.on)
array(can.on)        knoware(can.ab)      proteus(can.qc)      torag(can.on)
becker(can.on)       lexus(*)             rdysft(*)            torn(can.on)
caduceus(can.on)     lfergus(can.on)      realm(can.on)        utgpu(can.on)
cithara(can.qc)      lotds(can.on)        rgdc(*)              uunet.ca(can.on)
comback(can.qc)      lsuc(can.on)         robohack(can.on)     voskamp(*)
cspace(*)            micor(can.on)        rubble(can.on)       vsystem(can.bc)
elastic(can.on)      mnemosyne(can.on)    seachg(can.on)
feline(can.on)       ncrcan(can.on)       shaboom(can.on)
From: uucpmap@rutgers.rutgers.edu (UUCP Mapping Project)
Newsgroups: can.uucp.maps
Subject: UUCP map for u.can.ab.2
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:19:01 GMT
Expires: 22 Feb 93 11:19:01 GMT
Supersedes: <Dec.8.07.49.55.1992.2414@cs.toronto.edu>

:	This is a shell archive.
:	Remove everything above this line and
:	run the following text with /bin/sh to create:
:	u.can.ab.2
: This archive created: Fri Jan  8 06:18:58 1993
echo shar: extracting u.can.ab.2
cat << 'SHAR_EOF' > u.can.ab.2
file {u.can.ab.2}
#	u.can.ab.2 : last updated Sun Mar  8 13:20:36 EST 1992
#
# Empty file.  A reorganization of the u.can.* files resulted in
# the number of u.can.ab files decreasing from 2 to 1.
#
# All map entries that were automatically generated from CA domain
# registration forms are now in u.can.?. - utai!path
SHAR_EOF
:	End of shell archive
exit 0
From: uucpmap@rutgers.rutgers.edu (UUCP Mapping Project)
Newsgroups: can.uucp.maps
Subject: UUCP map for u.can.bc.2
Date: 8 Jan 93 11:19:22 GMT
Expires: 22 Feb 93 11:19:21 GMT
Supersedes: <Dec.8.07.50.10.1992.2452@cs.toronto.edu>

:	This is a shell archive.
:	Remove everything above this line and
:	run the following text with /bin/sh to create:
:	u.can.bc.2
: This archive created: Fri Jan  8 06:19:18 1993
echo shar: extracting u.can.bc.2
cat << 'SHAR_EOF' > u.can.bc.2
file {u.can.bc.2}
#	u.can.bc.2 : last updated Sun Mar  8 13:21:45 EST 1992
#
# Empty file.  A reorganization of the u.can.* files resulted in
# the number of u.can.bc files decreasing from 2 to 1.
#
# All map entries that were automatically generated from CA domain
# registration forms are now in u.can.?. - utai!path
SHAR_EOF
:	End of shell archive
exit 0
Xref: sparky can.uucp:265 comp.mail.misc:4256
From: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca (Steve Frampton)
Newsgroups: can.uucp,comp.mail.misc
Subject: USENET/Internet access in Sydney, NS?
Date: 6 Jan 93 03:37:37 GMT
Reply-To: frampton@vicuna.ocunix.on.ca
Followup-To: poster
Distribution: can
Organization: Vicuna Systems, Kingston, Ontario, CANADA
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi everyone:

A colleague of mine asked me to find out if there were any USENET or
Internet sites in Sydney, Nova Scotia who would be willing to allow
a member of her family on-line for mail and some news access.

Also -- if you don't happen to know what I'm looking for, perhaps you
could point me to any relevant Nova Scotia newsgroups (preferably a
mail -> news gateway, if possible) so that I may ask there as well.

Any information you can provide pertaining to this matter would be most 
appreciated.  Please respond via e-mail to preserve bandwidth.

Thanks in advance!

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Newsgroups: can.uucp
From: lawrence@combdyn.com (Lawrence Chen)
Subject: Possible FAQ: Name Server for UUCP?
Organization: Combustion Dynamics Ltd.
Distribution: can
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:14:24 GMT


This is probably a FAQ...but is there some service that can be queried to
see if a UUCP name is in use?
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Newsgroups: can.newprod
From: info@uunet.ca (UUNET Canada Information)
Subject: UUNET Canada Offers Service in Hamilton and Montreal
Organization: UUNET Canada
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 01:35:37 GMT
Distribution: can

UUNET Canada is now offering local dialup service in Hamilton, Ontario
and all our services in Montreal, Quebec.

We now have points-of-presence in Toronto, Ottawa, Kitchener, and
London, Ont., and in Montreal, Qc.  We also offer shared dialup
services in Hamilton, Ont.

For information, please contact info@uunet.ca, or telephone us at
(416) 368 6621.   Our general information kit is available in ASCII and
PostScript by anonymous ftp at ftp.uunet.ca:pub/uunet.ca-info/general-info.
Newsgroups: can.general
From: jjchew@math.toronto.edu (John J. Chew III)
Subject: Re: Any National Film Board contacts on the net?
Organization: The Poslfit Committee
Distribution: can
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 93 14:12:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.161113.19811@spxtech.qc.ca> steven@spxtech.qc.ca 
  (Steve Potter) writes:
> ?

Yes, they have a UUCP site whose exact name you can look up in the maps -
it is something like 'onf' (the French acronym for the agency).

John
-- 
john j. chew, iii / department of mathematics / university of toronto
poslfit@gpu.utcs.utoronto.ca / poslfit@utorgpu.bitnet / jjchew@math.toronto.edu
"My Canada includes... a Lebesgue non-measurable subset."
Newsgroups: can.general
From: dave@lsuc.on.ca (David Sherman)
Subject: US dollar VISA or MasterCard?
Organization: The Law Society of Upper Canada
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 06:49:26 GMT

Canada Trust is getting out of the US$ MasterCard business, and
cards expiring in 1993 won't be renewed.  Ours expires in February.

Can anyone recommend another source for a US-dollar credit card?
We keep some of our funds in US$, and would prefer to continue charging
purchases in the U.S. in a way that lets us pay for them out of those funds.

If there are no Canadian financial institutions offering US$ cards
any more, does anyone know of U.S. card issuers that will accept
Canadian customers?

David Sherman
Toronto
Newsgroups: can.general,ont.general
From: cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne)
Subject: Re: Is it anything known how much do get MPs and MPPs?
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, University of Ottawa
Distribution: can
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 93 00:20:09 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.205536.19468@bcrka451.bnr.ca> janick@bnr.ca (Janick Bergeron) writes:
>In article <1993Jan11.162511.3910@csi.uottawa.ca> cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca (Christopher Browne) writes:
>>a) Which "public" education system are the kids required to use?  In
>>the Ottawa region, there's at least a dozen school boards.  There's
>>Anglophone boards, Francophone boards, Catholic boards,
>>"Protestant"/Non-Catholic boards.
>
>The "public" school I had in mind was publicly-funded school which
>do not require additional tuitions and are attended by the majority
>of the kids of school age in a particular area. Coming from the Quebec's
>system where public != private (whereas Ontario's public != confessional)
>I may have used the term too loosely.

Well, in Ottawa the closest board to qualifying under that definition
is the Ottawa Board of Education, which is the English
non-confessional school board covering the city of Ottawa.  There's
also a francophone non-confessional school board in Ottawa.

However, if a particular MP happens to reside in (say) Nepean, they
would have to pay an extra fee in order to send their child to ANY
school in Ottawa.  This is an unusual case, so to speak; presumably
someone living in Nepean would go to a school there, and thus wouldn't
have to pay.

What I'm saying is that in Ottawa, the single place where the most
MPs' kids are most likely to go to school (having had classmates whose
parents were MPs, I know that this is already the case), has about a
dozen different school boards that are (roughly speaking) public
boards; i.e., parents TYPICALLY don't pay any tuition fees.

The point is that there's a definitional problem from day 1.  When
there's up to a dozen "right answers" to the question, it means that
the question was definitely NOT well-stated.

>>c) Who does the restriction REALLY affect?  I'd say that it's the
>>children that are affected by the requirement.  If such a law "hurt"
>>people, it would be the CHILDREN that would be hurt.  And I don't
>>think that's the intent.
>
>The children who would "hurt" would be those of the politicians who
>otherwise would have been sent to a "private" school. They wouldn't "hurt"
>anymore than their classmate. The intent is to force those same politicians
>to minimize that "hurt".

The point is that it's not the children that anybody wants to punish
(well, other than the editor of Frank Magazine, who "put out a
contract" on the Prime Minister's daughter's virginity.  One feature
that was in supremely BAD TASTE.)

-- 
Christopher Browne                |     PGP 2.0 key available
cbbrowne@csi.uottawa.ca           |======================================
University of Ottawa              | Genius may have its limitations, but
Master of System Science Program  | stupidity is not thus handicapped.
Newsgroups: can.general
From: bdb@becker.GTS.ORG (Bruce Becker)
Subject: Re: Information Request about the WEB
Reply-To: technical@web.apc.org
Organization: G. T. S., Toronto, Ontario
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 08:36:54 GMT

In article <93005.172439CURRIEA@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> <CURRIEA@QUCDN.QueensU.CA> writes:
|You can try spider@web.apc.org--that worked a while ago.
|(Spider is the account used by the sysops.)
|
|Their internet address is 142.77.253.8.


	Actually that's the address of the SL/IP
	interface - the proper IP address is
	192.139.37.1 or "web.apc.org" 


-- 
  ,u,	 Bruce Becker			Toronto, Ontario
a /i/	 Internet: bdb@becker.gts.org	Uucp: ...!web!becker!bdb
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From: gary.chan@compdyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Gary Chan) 
Newsgroups: can.general
Subject: Re: Consumer advice neede
Date: 7 Jan 93 21:58:00 GMT
Reply-To: gary.chan@compdyn.questor.wimsey.bc.ca (Gary Chan) 
Distribution: world
Organization: Computer Dynamics - Vancouver B.C. - (604)986-9937 (604)255-9937

Murray S. Kucherawy [mfcf to All on 01-07-93 All about Re: Consumer advice 
neede

MS>From: mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF])
MS>Newsgroups: ont.general,can.general
MS>Subject: Re: Consumer advice needed
MS>Message-ID: <C0GC9r.JFH@math.uwaterloo.ca>
MS>Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 21:41:50 GMT
MS>
MS>javery@bnr.ca writes:
MS>>jwaustin@bcars182.UUCP (John Austin) writes:
MS>>|>mskucher@math.uwaterloo.ca (Murray S. Kucherawy [MFCF]) writes:
MS>>|> |> 3) there is no "CSA approved" sticker anyplace on it
MS>>|> 
MS>>|> I think it's illegal to sell electrically operated equipment that 
MS>>|> not been
MS>>|> approved for use in Canada. 
MS>>|> 
MS>>Well, let me get my two cents in on this thread.  I think that if a p
MS>>Underwriter's Lab approval (look for a sticker that says UL instead o
MS>>is good enough to hook up to your electric system, but, check with yo
MS>>electric supplier, as I might not have any idea what I am talking abo
MS>>is the CSA of the States (more or less).
MS>
MS>Many expensive phone calls later...
MS>
MS>I spoke to the CSA already today to find out about this.  They said it
MS>illegal for anyone to sell or use appliances that are not CSA approved
MS>Such things should be reported to Ontario Hydro's inspectors, and they
MS>can prosecute under the Power Corporations Act.
MS>
MS>Since my inquiries have revealed that selling "grey market" stuff is
MS>essentially legal, this is about the only thing the retailer did that
MS>was actually illegal.  (He also said that the manufacturer's warranty 
MS>be honoured which is false.  I could complain about that, but it would
MS>travelling to small claims court in Toronto, which is inconvenient at 
MS>during a school term.)  The Ministry of Consumer and Corporate Affairs
MS>they are trying to get laws against it in place, but haven't done so y
MS>

Aww .. what the heck?  Could it possibly be a slow news day in your area?

I'm not kidding.  Call the newspapers and TV stations.  Ask for their 
consumers reporter and offer them a story.  There are enough possible 
story angles here that I would bet one of them may take it up.

Now you many not get your money back but hell you will save other people a 
bunch of money and get a shit load of satisfaction at the same time.



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From: golchowy@alchemy.chem.utoronto.ca (Gerald Olchowy)
Subject: Re: Why Canadian troops should stay in Cyprus
Organization: University of Toronto Chemistry Department
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 00:59:27 GMT

In article <1isuliINNqh1@skeena.ucs.ubc.ca> buckland@ucs.ubc.ca (Tony Buckland) writes:
> The short answer to why we shouldn't withdraw our peacekeeping
> troops from Cyprus is, IMHO, because the consequences for Europe
> and NATO could easily be horrible.
> 
> Admittedly, it is frustrating keeping two belligerent groups
> apart for decade after decade with no end in sight.  But the
> alternative is not keeping them apart.  With the current atmosphere
> in and around the Balkans, I would expect the Greek and Turkish
> Cypriots to be at each other's throats before the peacekeepers
> were out of Cyprus' airspace, and Greece and Turkey to be at war
> with one another within weeks afterwards, if not days.  Since
> both countries are NATO members, that organization would get
> sucked in and/or lose its credibility; and with the exception
> of one Franco-German brigade, NATO is the only shared security
> force in Europe.  General war in Southeast Europe might be only
> the beginning of the consequences.  That's an awful lot to risk
> for the sake of relieving a bit of political frustration.
> 


Perhaps it is our presence that is keeping both sides belligerent.
We're giving them a year's lead time to negotiate a peace...I suggest
they do so.  The UN also has time to find someone to replace us.

We've become part of the problem in Cyprus...not part of the solution...
that is not the purpose of peacekeeping.

Those that protest, and I hate to make a comparison to a TV show, are
a little like the Star Trek episode where two planets fight a "virtual"
war by computer, and then fill the death quotas of the simulation by
forcing people to walk into termination chambers.  Kirk destroyed the
computer.

In Cyprus, we've allowed ourselves to become the computer...giving each
side the excuse to maintain their ethnic hatreds.  Our purpose in the
world shouldn't be the paternalistic sustaining of hatred which is
really what our presence in Cyprus entails.

Our money and resources would be better spent in more desparate places
like Africa. 

Gerald
Newsgroups: can.general
From: rservant@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Ron Servant)
Subject: Re: Why Canadian troops should stay in Cyprus
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:21:56 GMT


I aggree, our troops in cypres are doing nothing but contributing to the problem

We could take our resources from Cypress and use them elsewhere where they could
be put to better use.

Ron Servant University of Waterloo, Computer Science Info Sys.
rservant@descartes.uwaterloo.ca

-- 
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rservant@descartes   | Computer Science
What do you mean     | Information Systems
Newsgroups: can.general
From: bpenrose@epas.utoronto.ca (B. Penrose)
Subject: Re: US dollar VISA or MasterCard?
Organization: University of Toronto - EPAS
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:45:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.064926.19560@sq.sq.com> dave@lsuc.on.ca (David Sherman)
asks:
>
>If there are no Canadian financial institutions offering US$ cards
>any more, does anyone know of U.S. card issuers that will accept
>Canadian customers?
>

You might try Citibank.  I started my account with them while living
in the U.S. but continued using it after returning to Canada, complete
with a Canadian billing address.  They seemed to have no problem with
my residing in  Canada at all, and indeed, unlike Canadian card
issuers (to whom "customer service" is an utterly alien concept),
continued to provide a number which could be called collect for
billing inquiries.  They were also great about stuff like getting an
increase in credit limit.  Whether they are as willing to open an
account for someone residing in Canada as they seem to be to continue
one, I don't know.  Good luck.

--Brian

Newsgroups: can.general
From: scooper6@mach1.wlu.ca (stephen cooper 9209 U)
Subject: Public Internet access in London Ont?
Organization: Wilfrid Laurier University
Distribution: can
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 13:12:04 GMT

Can anyone tell me if there's any BBS or whatever that could give me access
to the Internet?  I go home sometimes and have to dial in long distance
now...  Thanks for your help...

Steve
-- 
Steve Cooper      |  Internet:  scooper6@mach1.wlu.ca
Waterloo, Ontario |  If you actually think I speak for Wilfrid Laurier
Canada!!          |  University, well... I don't even want to think about it.
Newsgroups: can.general
From: anton@analsyn.gts.org (Anton J Aylward)
Subject: Re: Eating killed animals (was Re: Gun Control Petition)
Reply-To: anton@lethe.gts.org
Organization: ASCI: UNIX Database and Communications
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 00:24:15 GMT

In the article (<1993Jan1.014823.248@cdf.toronto.edu>) Rosemary Waigh (g9rwaigh@cdf.toronto.edu) posted to can.general:

: And even if the meat industry switched to painless methods of castration etc
: I would still oppose the killing inherent in it.

Ah.
So other net.people who clarify what the induatry is actually doing, how
dairy methods have changed etc, are not going to convince you.
They are working under the misprehension that 'pain' is the issue.

Did you ever read the spoof article 'Equal rights for microbes' ?
Sadly, some people who read it took it seriously and wrote to the editor
of the magazine both supporting it and decrying it.

I guess I'm a libertarian at heart.
I don't like people telling me what I can and cant do what I must and
must not do.  By implication I don't like them decrying the practices
that go with all this, especially when they don't harm other people.

Look at all the animals that have gone extinct because man hunted them.
(If you aren't aware that humans just about elminated megagauna in north
america I suggest you read some works on the early anthrpology of this
continent)  The ones that didn't became food animals.  It looks like
its a good survival strategy.  The nunmber increase and survival is
assured against the most offensive predator, and prtection is given
against the lessor preditors.  If you wanted to assure survival as a
species, rather than as an individual, what you you chose?

Its curious how this century has seen the massive rise of the importance
of the individual and the individuals opinions/rights etc at the cost of
the race and the species as a whole.  

--
Anton J Aylward
	"The body politic is swerving from left to right and right to
	 left looking for quick fixes for systemic problems."
	   - Paul Palango, Journalist, ex The Globe and Mail
Newsgroups: can.general,can.politics,soc.culture.canada