HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: pjs@euclid.JPL.NASA.GOV (Peter J. Scott)
Subject: Re: Prince Edward - is he a well-known homosexual?
Reply-To: pjs@euclid.jpl.nasa.gov
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA/Caltech
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:22:50 GMT


In article <BtC1q3.8uE@newcastle.ac.uk> w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:
>
>  Is it true that some American newspapers have reported widely accepted 
>stories about Prince Edward being homosexual?  It would seem unlikely
>that the UK papers would voluntarily refrain from publishing such a 
>story.

Well the TV Guide cover story a couple of weeks ago which claimed that
"... Price Edward is so famously homosexual that... referred to as
Barbara (as in Barbara Windsor)" was written by Dermot Purgavie,
who is the US Correspondent for the London Daily Mail, so I imagine
his sources are the same as the DM's.  Why they don't feel compelled
to give it that much attention, I don't know.  Maybe even the DM draws
the line somewhere...?

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brain on news.  Any questions?    |    (pjs@euclid.jpl.nasa.gov)
From: eastwood@inline (David Eastwood)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: On the Verge of Needing Linguistic Help
Date: 21 Aug 92 18:34:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.145838.27177@ttinews.tti.com> jackson@soldev.tti.com  
(Dick Jackson) writes:
> 
> My very good friend and I engaged in a trans-Atlantic collision the  
other
> day.  The paved footpath next to our house has a grass strip about three
> feet wide between it and the road.  We have just installed turf all over
> and this caused the subject of what this green strip is called to come  
up.
> She claimed that it is a "parkway".  Well I knew this wasn't proper
> English but struggled to come up with the right name.  Finally I hit on
> "verge" and confidentally proclaimed it as the correct term.
> 
> Privately however I had doubts. I am pretty sure that if I am on a
> country lane the side of the road can be termed the (grass) verge. But
> can I use this word in the manner described above?
> 
> Dick Jackson

It's a verge (or at least it is in my home town); I remember how 
pleased I was when the local council stopped mowing those outside
our house, and I got  to mow them as well as the lawns, for *more* 
pocket money :-)

 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: dj@ssd.kodak.com (Dave Jones)
Subject: Re: Car Registrations Question
Organization: :noitazinagrO
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 13:43:22 GMT

In article <1992Aug19.025921.2536@mixcom.com> Michael.Wheeley@mixcom.mixcom.com (Michael.Wheeley) writes:
>
>Also I noted in the above article the mention of 'Q'-plates. I've bought
>a convertible Mustang-GT [plate Wisconsin MRW1] which I'm intending to
>bring to the UK when I stop working over here. What plate will I get??

Psshaw.  Mustang?  No style at all.  Now take the guy who used to drive
a genuine Checker cab up and down New Malden High Street.  Now _that's_
style!


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From: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Subject: Re: Confound their politics
Followup-To: soc.culture.british
Reply-To: dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks)
Organization: Open Software Foundation
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:25:32 GMT

In article <1992Aug10.204331.13175@news.Hawaii.Edu> gerard@caliban.soest.hawaii.edu (Gerard Fryer) writes:
>I recently watched that old classic "The Ruling Class" (early
>seventies, Peter O'Toole).  The opening titles are run to that verse of
>"God Save the King" which was dropped long before Liz's coronation.  I
>must have heard my father sing it dozens of times (he'd sing it
>instead of the tame first verse) but now I can't recall it accurately.
>Can someone give me the words?

There are six verses, count 'em, six.  Don't you know nuffin?  The verse
occasionally sung second (as in the Britten and Jacob arrangements) is
actually the third.  I don't recall anything about 4, 5, or 6.

>  Does anyone know the circumstances
>under which the verse was dropped?

I don't think it was ever officially dropped, but it is not often sung for
reasons that will soon be apparent.  The following is from memory.  Your
punctuation may vary.

1.  God save ... oh, hell, you all know this.

2.  O Lord our God, arise,
    Scatter her enemies,
    And make them fall.		[sung with great emphasis]
    Confound their politics;	[these lines may be transposed]
    Defeat their knavish tricks; [?? yes, I know, scansion is off]
    On Thee our hopes we fix.
    God save us all.		[sic]

3.  Thy choicest gifts in store
    On her be pleased to pour;
    Long may she reign!
    May she defend our laws,
    And ever give us cause
    To sing with heart and voice,
    God save the Queen!		[didn't rhyme as "King" either].
-- 
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From: johnf@apollo.hp.com (John Francis)
Subject: Re: Private Eye Records.
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 19:08:32 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard Corporation, Chelmsford, MA

In article <1992Aug17.151247.18398@ttinews.tti.com> jackson@soldev.tti.com (Dick Jackson) writes:
>In Dennis Davis writes:
>>The UK satirical magazine "Private Eye" was in the habit of issueing
>>the occasional free record, often at Christmas time.  These were
>>extremely flimsy pieces of plastic, complete with a sticky patch to
>>ensure that they stuck to your turntable and not to the needle.
>
>Regretably I only experienced one of these. It came affixed to the front
>of the magazine, and when removed revealed a picture of Sir Alexander
>Douglas Hm sitting on the WC, and saying "Hey, put that record back!"
>
>The song on the record went as follows:
>
>	When Jesus was alive,
>	A million years ago,
>	Jesus voted Conservative
>	And Jesus ought to know.
>
>Sung to the tune of a very well known hymn whose name I am glad to say I
>have completely forgotten.
>

I don't remember that one, but I do remember the one that went:

        Onward Christian Barnard,
        Marching through Grotte Schurr (sp?)
        With the heart of Blaiberg,
        In his bottom druerr . .

    (South Efrican voice): Watch carefully:  I will now remove the heart
      from this bleck man, who is suffering from incurable brain demage.

    (Robin Day type voice): But he looks perfectly alright to me!

    (South Efrican voice):  All bleck men suffer from incurable brain
      demage - they're born with it.

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Subject: Re: Does Prince Philip have a French Mistress?
Reply-To: esh2@po.CWRU.Edu (Evelyn S. Hlabse)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 18:00:14 GMT


In a previous article, w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk () says:

>I have been told that some French newspapers have revealed that Prince
>Philip has a French mistress who he regularly spends time with.  This 
>has been known for quite a while in France but the UK press refuses 
>to report it.
>
>If it really was reported in French papers was it just junk news 
>(ie made-up just to fill pages).
>


I have read this in a couple of recent books about the Royal Family.
I forget her name but it was back in the early 1950s and seemingly
is now over.

He's fulfilling a difficult position and seems to have done a
better job than his sons.

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From: ses@cmns-sun.think.com (Simon Edward Spero)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: VNS: Thu 13-Aug-1992
Date: 13 Aug 92 17:18:30
Organization: What's your clearance, citizen?
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In-reply-to: jch+@cs.cmu.edu's message of 13 Aug 92 14:31:46 GMT

In article <BsxF11.L6.1@cs.cmu.edu> jch+@cs.cmu.edu (Jonathan Hardwick) writes:

   Latest news from this side of the pond is that a BIG uncharted rock
   has been found right where the grounding took place.  So I doubt that
   they'll pin the blame on anyone -- you can't be expected to avoid what
   you don't know about.

Today a big uncharted rock was found in the Atlantic. The IRA say they 
planted it. Fighting again took place in Bosnia. More coming up on
fab 3 FM after this golden oldie by Mozart.

Simon

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From: smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: T-shirt economics?
Date: 13 Aug 92 10:12:06 GMT
Reply-To: P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee)
Organization: University of Bristol

I saw a T-shirt with a message the other day.  Ann tells me it's an
oldie, and that I must have been asleep the past few millenia, but I
was rather taken by it.  It said:

    When the going gets tough, the tough go shopping

Now, of itself I suppose this isn't terribly interesting, but in a
later context it led to a flash of inspiration.  I saw it on my way to
lunch.  Reading the paper over lunch (as is my wont), I saw (yet again)
on the financial pages, a report of a government statement to the
effect that the recession isn't THEIR fault, it's ours.  We're not
buying enough.

Context was a report to the effect that total consumer debt (mostly
credit cards) went down last month, as did spending.  We're now trying
to lower our debt levels, rather than incurring more debt to buy more
stuff.  This apparently causes the economy to continue nose-diving.
(Funny, I thought that was exactly the principle the government was
trying to run its accounts on, but never mind, I digress.)  The cure is
for us to all get off our butts and go shopping.

So, the question this begs is, is the resurrection of this T-shirt
motto a secret Government ploy to propagandise us into getting the
economy going again?  Or, is it the other way around, someone in the
Chancellor's office has seen the T-shirt, and decided it would make a
great economic policy?

-- 
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: antonson@software.org (Todd S. Antonson)
Subject: Flower shop in Leeds, England
Organization: Software Productivity Consortium, Herndon, Virginia
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 21:34:07 GMT

Could someone give me info on Flower shops in Leeds, ENGLAND?
Phone/address would be great.

Thanks!

- Todd
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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,rec.arts.tv.uk,rec.arts.drwho,alt.tv.prisoner
Subject: Re: Americanising of the UK, Now: British TV in North America
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 05:34:43 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada


Wtih this thread about "Americanization" of the Britannia, I must rebuff this.

It seems to me that it is equal.  British shows like "Doctor Who", "The
Avengers", "Blake's 7", "Monty Python", "Fawlty Towers", "Butterflies", and
other shows, "The Secret Agent", and "The Prisoner" included, I say that
the USA is being "Britonized". In fact, in rec.arts.drwho, the Doctor Who
newsgroup, there are more American entries than British.  Anyone awake.
Now if Britain could only do a series on Kingdoms and REpublics.

Dave Shariff Yadallee
yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All!
cowboy (n): A 20th Century extension of  the neanderthal caveman.
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: K Registrations?
Date: 19 Aug 92 08:43:38 GMT
Reply-To: Hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA


|>In article <1992Aug15.221108.4408@informix.com>, proberts@informix.com
|>(Paul Roberts) writes:
|>> In article <l8o1vdINNiqr@news.bbn.com> clements@bbn.com (Bob Clements)
|>writes:
|>> >On my recent visit, I saw an article in the paper that "K"
|>> >registrations (for motor vehicles) were about to begin.
|>> >
|>> 
|>> You know you are getting old when .....
|>> 
|>> You have a nagging feeling that you can remember the last time "K"
|>> registrations coming out.
|>
|>It's worse when a K reg car was the *second* car you ever owned! The
|>first was an A reg :-( but not new I hasten to add ;-)

Think you got problems? I own *now* an L reg...

Question is after replacing the engine, brakes, exhaust, starter, and most of
the bodyshell is it the same car?


Phill
From: kimcm@login.dkuug.dk (Kim Chr. Madsen)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Can a foetus succeed a dead monarch?
Date: 23 Aug 92 15:32:48 GMT

w.p.coyne@newcastle.ac.uk writes:


>   Can a foetus succeed a dead monarch?
>                 or
>   If a childless king dies and his wife is pregnant, who gets
>      the throne?

>  Say Charles becomes king, then he and his sons die in a bomb
>explosion.  So Andrew becomes king.  But what if a month later
>Queen Diana found she was pregnant.

There would be an immediate investigation led by 'The Mirror', 'Sun'
and the 'Daily Mail' to check that Charles indeed was the father of the
child (-;

					Kim Chr. Madsen
From: pete@plutonium.CChem.Berkeley.EDU (Pete Goodeve)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: BBC address
Date: 18 Aug 1992 08:57:37 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: plutonium.cchem.berkeley.edu


In article <16qbatINNs6h@grapevine.EBay.Sun.COM> smckinty@sunicnc.France.Sun.COM (Steve McKinty - Sun ICNC) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.132654.1@v9.vitro.com>, terr05@v9.vitro.com writes:
 .. Hello,
 ..      I am looking for the address of the BBC. I want to get tapes on accents
 .. of the British Isles and a Punch and Judy show. I would like to knoe if there
 .. is a catalog on the net. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
>You could try writing to:
>
>BBC World Service Mail Order
>Room LG26 NE
>Bush House
>Strand
>London
>WC2
>England
>
>Fax: +44 71 497 0498

>I've never used them but that's the address in the world service magazine.
>I know the BBC video department has quite a large range of tapes, and
>you should be able to get a catalogue. I'm not sure if they are available
>in formats other than PAL though.


I think the original poster was more looking for *audio* tapes.  No problem
about format there! (:-))

That adrress sounds like the best one to try, but if you'd like a couple of
specific titles (from a Summer '91 catalogue I just happen to have handy),
how about these?

        `English with an Accent'                ZCM 166

        `English with a Dialect --
        shows how English is spoken
        regionally within the
        British Isles'                          ZCM 173

Couldn't find any reference to Punch and Judy, sorry, but they do refer
to `seperate' [sic.. Tch Tch, BBC... (:-)] catalogues for spoken word
cassettes and Sound Effects, which might give some hint.

                                        -- Pete --
From: tim@sinix.UUCP (Tim Bissell)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: New Road Signs
Date: 21 Aug 92 17:02:45 GMT
Organization: SNI AG Muenchen, STO XS

In article <1992Aug17.110204.1818@siesoft.co.uk> kfe@siesoft.co.uk (Keith ) writes:
>I have recently noticed a large number of new 'road signs' popping up
>all over the place. They are about 1 foot by 2 feet in size, mounted
>parallel to the road (ie not facing the traffic) and appear to show
>bar code type reflective markings.
>
>Does anybody out the in netland have any idea what these signs are for?
>

They could be part of a new system that identifies traffic jams, speed
sensors dotted around London (at present) radio a message to a central
computer system when traffic speed on that road drops below a certain
amount.

You can rent a gadget that has an LCD screen which can show different
scale maps of the area, and pinpoint blockages.  This device is small
enough to be used in a car.  Someone I know is testing one, and says
it can be quite useful when he is chosing between the M1 and M40 to
get to Coventry, but he often finds he is in a traffic jam before
the device alerts him to it.

Tim.
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From: mfriley@pacman.WPI.EDU (Margaret F Riley)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: What happened to punch magazine?
Date: 18 Aug 92 16:29:08 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute

In article <1992Aug18.025231.16030@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu> cushion@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Megan S McCormick) writes:
>I used to have a subscription to Punch. which I let expire due to general
>poverty.  At about that time (Jan. of '92?)  I heard that the magazine had
>actually ceased publishing.  This would have been a shame; is the rumor
>true, or am I just trying to make myself feel better that I didn't
>resubscribe?  

Sorry, the rumour is true.   I miss it too.

--Margaret
From: "richard tanner" <richard.tanner@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: royal family
Date: 14 Aug 92 14:27:16 EST
Reply-To: "richard tanner" <richard.tanner@canrem.com>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

On 08-12-92, Neil Postlethwaite wrote the following to All in an artic
entitled, "ROYAL FAMILY":

NP>What do we get in return. A few walk abouts and stuff. A little PR 
NP>we won't question the amount they cost the country.

Much more than a few walk-abouts and PR. From my point of view, as an 
expatriate Brit living in Canada, the monarchy serves us in ways that 
could never have a price tag.

1. Those of us fortunate enough to live under a constitutional monarch
as we do in Canada, are protected from the situation in the United Sta
where a president is both political leader and head of state. We are m
freer here to relate to our prime minister as a politician who is 
accountable to us as our elected representative. 

2. The concept of a politician being commander in chief of the armed 
forces is highly dangerous. An ex-head of the CIA presently controls t
American military machine. Having a constitutional monarch as commande
chief may not mean that s/he DOES anything in that regard. It's just a
heck of a lot safer.

3. The Queen of Canada provides for us a link with a human face to nat
which share with us common traditions and values. 


The bottom line is that what the Queen and the Royal Family around her
or do not do is unimportant. It is what they are, like fixed parts wit
a watch, holding the moving gears in place (unless, of course, you're 
wearing a Casio).

Richard



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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: regeorge@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert E George)
Subject: Re: A Levels and Statistics
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 19:20:08 GMT

In article <1992Aug20.153712.29473@bnr.uk> agc@bmdhh298.bnr.ca (Alan Carter) wr
ites:
>The Grauniad today reports
>
>> MINISTER HAILS RECORD PASSES IN A LEVELS
>
[deletions]
>> ...AS levels are at the same standard as A levels but involve
>> roughly half the work.
>
>What is this nonsense? Can I have some exams at the same standard
>as A Levels but only involving 1% of the work please?
>
[deletions]

Is it possible that "the work" refers either to
      [1] The amount of time spent preparing and/or scoring the exam;
      [2] The number of questions, or length of response expected to
      the questions;
      [3] The number of subjects covered (e.g., A requires fluency in
      two languages while AS requires fluency in only one?)

As quoted, the statement seems contradictory, but it may not be in fact.
Robert George
(speaking only for myself)
From: david@postman.gr.osf.org (David George)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Songs banned by the Beeb (was Re: Americanising of the UK)
Date: 12 Aug 92 16:09:41 GMT
Organization: OSF RI Grenoble

In article <BsvE3L.4Kq@brunel.ac.uk>, Christopher.Carne@brunel.ac.uk (Christopher J Carne) writes:
|> In article <1992Aug11.083335.9857@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> gjw@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Mr Garry J. Wardrope) writes:
|> >
|> >   More recently they banned Frankie Goes to Hollywood and Relax 

|> I know there have been several postings claiming that this song was banned,
|> but I seem to recall hearing it on the radio quite a lot at the time. 

Looks like nearly 10 years in front of a computer terminal has dulled your faculties a bit.  The song was banned in a Mike Reid (he of the breakfast show) inspired action.  The line was normally "and this weeks no. 1 is Relax which due to the nature of the lyric will not be played".

David.
From: mcsdc1jcwj@dct.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: RE: Mansell out ? [was Re: VNS: Mon 17
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:08:29 BST
Organization: Dundee Institute of Technology

You could well be right David .

I can't really think of any other sport in which the british excel .

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From: jackson@soldev.tti.com (Dick Jackson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: What are the yellow "H" signs?
Date: 18 Aug 92 14:32:23 GMT
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.

Chris Lee writes:
>
>Fire hydrant. In the UK they're below street level, under metal covers.

In the US, as many of you know, they stick up at the side of the road
and the kerb is pained red to try to prevent cars being parked where
they could block access by firemen. I don't remember any such thing
in the UK but there must be, right? Do you "get a ticket" in England
for parking on a hydrant?

Dick Jackson
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: chem91@Rosie.UH.EDU ("Bill Harrison (713)-743-2789")
Subject: Re: How did Australia and New Zealand Decimalise?
Reply-To: chem91@Rosie.UH.EDU
Organization: University of Houston
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 20:58:57 GMT

[stuff killed]
>
>I heard that bus fares that were one shilling (12 old pence) became one
>new shilling (10 new pence = 24 old pence) after the conversion in 1971 (?)
>Is this true?
>--
>Constantinos A. Caroutas
>
>"It's easy to make mistakes when others will be held responsible."

----------------------

I don't think so?? A bus fare of one shilling (which would take you about
50 yards these days) would have become 5 new pence (or just "5p"). There
(is/was) no such thing as a "new shilling" to my knowledge.

Bill


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