HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: prange@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (Henry Prange)
Subject: Re: single vs. dual disk
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 19:06:35 GMT

In article <9901129@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> ron@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Ron Miller) writes:
>> 
>> One of the more noticeable differences when I switched from the K100RT (dual
>> front disks) to the R100GS (single) was how much the stopping power, even
>> with the lighter bike, was reduced. I have even had to use the rear brake 
>> sometimes! Until then I wasn't sure the dual brakes weren't just a sales
>> gimmick.
>> 
>> Does anyone know if the GS can be converted to dual disks?
>> 
>> Ride grinnin'
>> 
>> Henry
>
>This lessened braking force might be a blessing in disguise - easier to
>modulate under dirt road traction conditions. 
>Adrenaline will strengthen your grip, too.
>
>Just a thought,
>
>Ron

Wait a min..... use brakes off pavement??? But then I would have to want to slow down! What fun is that? :-)

HP
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: '83 KZ650 Brakes?
From: <AMR113@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:00:39 EST
Organization: Penn State University

Hi there,
     I have a '83 KZ650 CSR.  It has a single disk brake on the front wheel.  I
 find that the lever effort required stop the bike anything like quickly is ver
y, very high.  A friend of mine suggested that I buy a new set of brake pads fo
r the front.  You DOD members seem to have quite a few years of riding experien
ce under your belts, so I thought I would ask you.  Would new brake pads help m
e stop the bike with less lever effort?  Would I have to specify to the dealer
that I wanted a different type(compound) of pads than the normal replacements?
    I would appreciate any input about making the brakes more effective.

                                       Thanks a lot
                                       Rube
                                       AMA# 668927


Xref: sparky rec.motorcycles:45397 rec.autos.driving:7647
From: lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se (Stamos Stamos)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,rec.autos.driving
Subject: U.S. study links safety to higher speed limits
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:19:47 GMT
Organization: Funky Town Inc.
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.




CycleCanada:


An American group called the Foundation for Traffic Safety has released a
study that suggests highway safety increased in states where the speed limit
was raised to 65 mph from 55mph. The study contradicts warnings from groups
such as the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety, which earlier predicted
greater carnage on the roads when American states began raising speed limits
to 65mph. The 55mph limit was originally enacted as a fuel saving measure during
the energy crisis of the `70s, but later became enshrined by safety advocates 
who believe that "speed kills."
  Researchers at the University of California studied the years '87 and '88
after the mandatory 55mph law was lifted by the federal government. Highway 
fatalities declined for the US as a whole during those years, but the rate
declined fastest in the states that adopted a 65mph speed limit. The researchers
researchers explain the result by suggesting that the higher limit reduced the
speed differential between the slowest and fastest users of interstate
highways, attracted more users on to the relatively safer interstates, and
also allowed police enforcement that didn't concentrate on speeding.
  All but nine American states have adopted the 65 mph limit on rural
interstate highways.






--
Stamos <lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se>            ZZR11            Ellas
Ericsson, Cellular Design
Montreal, Canada.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jlevine@rd.hydro.on.ca (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: What metzeler recommends for tire pressures
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 93 15:07:01 GMT

In article <1993Jan25.231150.1040@twg.com> rwalls@twg.com (Roger Walls) writes:
>In article <1993Jan25.152607.11748@bnr.ca> space@bcarh2b1 (Scott Pace) writes:
>>
>>The pressures listed above are several pounds higher than what Suzuki
>>recommends.
>>
>>WHO DO I BELIEVE on this issue?
>
>Believe the Manufacturer of the tire! They do the testing. All Suzuki
>does is order the tire from Metzler cuz metzler gave them a better 
>price than Dunlop or Avon, etc.

All Suzuki does is design the bike and the suspension. A tire will behave
according to how much weight is on it and how the suspension is set up, 
(rather, the bike will act differently depending on tire pressure) which
is why you should stick to the bike manufacturer's recommendation.

Allow me to flame myself. But all tires ore not created equal! How does the
manufacturer know which tire you're going to use?

Allow me to defend myself. In some cases, they design the bike to go with a
particular tire, or vice versa. The Katana 750, in its current version,
has always come with Metzelers, as far as I know. Suzuki may have designed
their suspension system to go with these tires, at which point I'd use
the bike maker's numbers.

This is part of the problem with doing something as drastic as putting 
radials on an old bike. The bike isn't set up for radials, which are much 
more compliant, so you'd probably have to inflate them more to get a similar 
ride.

I can't tell the difference in the ride when the tires are a few psi low,
so I probably wouldn't notice a few psi higher either. I go with what's
written on the bike because those are the only numbers I have when I get
to the air pump.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine  DoD #275 kV
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu (Mark Parsons)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: California Superbike school cancelled FOREVER
Date: 27 Jan 1993 15:11:44 GMT
Organization: Baylor College of Medicine, Houston, Tx
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu
Originator: mparsons@fleming.csc.bcm.tmc.edu


In article <1993Jan27.011235.4365@ucsu.Colorado.EDU>, coburnn@spot.Colorado.EDU (COBURN  NICHOLAS SCO) writes:
> In article <1993Jan26.201525.21147@microunity.com> ericm@microunity.com (Eric Murray) writes:
> >
> >I just called the California Superbike School (the one run by
> >Keith Code) to ask if a German national could take the
> >school, only to find out that Keith Code has quit and
> >disbanded the school as of friday.  The person I talked to
> >said that "he just got tired of it" when I asked why they
> >were quitting.  She said that they'd return my check.
> >
> >Damn, I was looking forward to taking it.
> 
> DAMN!  DAMN!   DAMN! 
> 
> So was I.
> 
> Anyone know of another school similar to Keith's?


Anyone thought of calling/writing Keith to see if he'll do a private
version of the course?  If enough of you showed interest, and didn't
mention the MTV spot?? ;-), you just might be able to talk him into
it.  Let him know that there are some reponsible riders out here that
want to take his course . . . learn from him . . . point out that you
got a lot of recommendations from your fellow DoDer's . . . . tell
him about the DoD . . . . maybe you can get a Keith Code DoDer's Only
CLASS set up??

It's worth a try . . . right?

Mark "Think Keith would bring the class to Houston?" Parsons
From: bloom@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Ducati 900 (Mike Halwood Replica)
Date: 25 Jan 93 10:12:23 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <lewis.11.727429339@unpsun1.cc.unp.ac.za>, lewis@unpsun1.cc.unp.ac.za (Greg Lewis) writes:
> 
> Gudday All!
> 
> I was wondering if anyone out there knew a good reliable supplier who won't 
> charge me the earth for Ducati Spares. I am in South Africa and all spares 
> have to be imported.  
> 
> Thanks in advance.
> 
> Greg Lewis

Try MCC in Lombard, Illinois, USA.  Excellent Ducati shop, good supply 
of spares, and very knowledgable owner/mechanics.  Got a spare 
$40,000?  They have a 340 lb Ducati on their floor, with mucho 
carbon fibre work (mufflers and body parts) that makes about 
120 horsepower.  I'll get their address and phone # later.
........Dr. Doom
From: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers)
Subject: Re: Coast to coast baby.
Reply-To: blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com
Organization: Evans & Sutherland Computer Corporation
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 06:14:03 GMT

egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>In article 4q2@javelin.sim.es.com, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
>>laszlo@eclipse.cs.colorado.edu (Laszlo Nemeth) writes:

>>>i would be willing to do a denver/boulder check piont but i could be
>>>bought to easily............
>>
>>Laz may have a few faults, but at least he's honest!

>Admitting that he's dishonest makes him honest?!?

Sure, this is the net. You can't argue with that sort of logic here.
-- 
Blaine Gardner @ Evans & Sutherland  blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com  BIX:blaine_g
580 Arapeen Drive, SLC, Utah 84108           Favorite road signs:
Dumper of Dirtbikes #46             FJ1200   Winding Road Next 77 Miles
My other motorcycle is a Quadracer           Caution: Passing Areas Not Marked
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: meh0570@ultb.isc.rit.edu (M.E. Herman)
Subject: Re: really, really waterproof gloves?
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology
Date: Mon, 25 Jan 1993 00:24:09 GMT

A good waterproof glove are those that you use when 
doing dishes, or the kind cleaning people use to stop 
thier hands from getting eaten by cleaning all day.

rubbermaid makes them adn they come in some big sizes.

JC
dod# 0746

anybody want to buy a silverwing???
send mail for more info.


Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: behanna@phoenix.syl.nj.nec.com (Chris BeHanna)
Subject: Re: YO! U.S. [was] Hey, Europe!
Organization: NEC Systems Laboratory, Inc.
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 15:48:21 GMT

In article <1993Jan26.233613.21992@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> cdw2t@dayhoff.med.Virginia.EDU (Clifford David Weston) writes:
>ObMoto: anyone have a problem with water in the fuel possibly freezing/causing
>havoc on particularly cold (mid- to high-20s) days?  The coldblooded SecaII
>runs like an old VW Bug in this weather, even when it's warmed up, choke,
>partial choke, or no choke.  What gives?

	Every Yamaha I've ever seen has been cold-blooded.  Thank the EPA,
curse them, then bump the slow jets up a size and turn the mixture screws
out a quarter turn.  You may also consider using a thin washer in the needle
holder to raise the needles a hair.

	I never could start my '81 XS400 without ether when the temperature
dropped below 40 degrees F.  Of course, I knew _NOTHING_ about carburetors
then.  :-)

Later,
-- 
Chris BeHanna	DoD# 114          1983 H-D FXWG Wide Glide - Jubilee's Red Lady
behanna@syl.nj.nec.com	          1975 CB360T - Baby Bike
Disclaimer:  Now why would NEC
agree with any of this anyway?    I was raised by a pack of wild corn dogs.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: wanted:British Bike 1950-1974
From: kirk@oneb.almanac.bc.ca
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 93 22:23:12 PST
Organization: The Old Frog's Almanac, Nanaimo, B.C.
Summary: Want to buy British Bike up to $3500 Canadian

I am posting for a friend who has no computer :(
He is looking for a British  Motorcycle from the years 1950 -1974.  He tells 
 me he prefers a pre-unit (whatever that is).  He is looking for a 500 
single but will consider  a 350 single or twin to 850cc.  He is willing to 
pay up to $3500 Canadian.  I happen to know that he is making a trip from 
B.C. to Alberta in the middle of the winter to look at a bike. So he must be 
serious about this.  If you have a bike like this for sale or information on 
one please E-mail me at  kirk@oneb.almanac.bc.ca  or write directly to my 
friend.  Send a letter to:
                           Wilf Hatch
                           # 43, 650 South Terminal Ave.
                           Nanaimo, B.C.
                           Canada
Sorry I don't have a postal code for him.
Thanks very much.

By the way, what is a pre-unit anyway???
Happy Trails, Kirk.

           kirk@oneb.almanac.bc.ca (Kirk Coleman)
     The Old Frog's Almanac  (Home of The Almanac UNIX Users Group)    
(604) 245-3205 (v32)    <Public Access UseNet>    (604) 245-4366 (2400x4)
        Vancouver Island, British Columbia    Waffle XENIX 1.64
From: npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Health Care, lawyers, Nick yelling, etc.
Date: 27 Jan 93 14:40:49 GMT
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca wrote:
: > LISTEN!  YOU SHIT-FOR-BRAINS LITTLE DWEEB!  NEXT TIME YOU GET TURNED AWAY FROM
:  { much "fecal matter" deleted}
: > Nick (the British Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford  

: Geez, just a tad upset? 
: -- 
: Bruce Clarke       B.C. Environment
:                    e-mail: bclarke@galaxy.gov.bc.ca

Nah!  Just exercising.  I haven't flamed anybody properly for ages.  It felt
really good to get that out of my system.

Back to my meek self.


Nick (the "Born to be Mild" Biker)   DoD 1069   Concise Oxford

M'Lud.


Oh FUCK OFF!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mayer@sono.uucp (Ron Mayer)
Subject: Re: Re; Nat'l Health Plan (Was: Re: Lance
Organization: Acuson; Mountain View, California
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:50:36 GMT


In article <1k3jipINN1n6@seven-up.East.Sun.COM> egreen@East.Sun.COM (Ed Green - Pixel Cruncher) writes:
>
>The problem is that today, free market forces do NOT dictate those
>salaries.  Health care consumers do not directly pay for the
>product/service they are purchasing, and the closed loop control of
>free market forces goes out the window.

Really?  Wouldn't consumers choose cheap insurance premiums; who would
do the searching for cheep doctors?  I wish I knew anything about
economics, but intuitively it would seem that in a free market,
consumers would pay whatever they thought their insurance was worth;
and insurance companies would pay doctor's salaries according to what
their clients were willing to pay.

How is this different than paying my motorcycle mechanic to buy parts
when he repairs my bike?  Here, the consumer "does not directly pay
for the product/service [motorcycle part] they are purchacing"; but if
my dealer only uses expensive (read BMW:-)) parts, those who have a
problem with this can go find a different mechanic.  Similarly, if my
insurance company pays for heart-lung-transplants for 90 year old 3
pack a day smokers; and I think they are charging me too much because
of it; I'll change insurance companies.  Even though I am not directly
paying for the motorcycle parts and lung transplant; I still excercize
free market power by choosing to pay the motorcycle dealer or
insurance company.

As long as people are willing to pay insurance companies, and
insurance companies are willing to pay doctors; I'd say the "free
market" is at work.  If the costs are exhorbitant, the reason could be 
due to a monopoly of either doctors or insurance companies (or
something preventing informed choices selecting either).  There seem
to be quite a few insurance companies out there for either me or my
employer to choose from.  Also, the years of medical school and other
requirements are a significant barrier to competition among doctors.

>There is less than no incentive for consumers to shop for
>cost-effective health care. 

There doesn't have to be.  If the insurance company is paying, they
need and have an incentive to look for cost effective solutions.  The
problem is that they don't have the freedom to make these choices.

I don't really need someone with 6 years of medical school to check my
eyesight, and would hapily pay 10% of the price to have a tech with
one week of training do my eye exam.  Doctors seem to have a pretty
strong monopoly on health care; and neither insurance companies nor
patients will be able to find cheaper alternatives if there is little
competition among doctors.

>Any doctor, engineer, or motorcycle mechanic who can earn a 6 figure
>income, in a true free market, is absolutely entitled to it.

Agreed.  Even if he's payed by an insurance company.  

    Ron Mayer sun!sono!mayer DoD#556  92R100GS 78GS400

ObMoto:  Would the cost of sportbike plastic be affordable if
         insurance companies didn't pay for it?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jet@boxer.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Nationalized Lawyers  was Re: pitch fo
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 26 Jan 93 15:38:22

"egreen" == Ed Green <egreen@East.Sun.COM> writes:

> In article 4790@bnr.uk, npet@bnr.ca (Nick Pettefar) writes:
>
>Our postal service is the envy of most countries.  91% (?) of first
>class letters are delivered by the following day, even from Cornwall
>to the Highlands of Scotland.

egreen> Oooooh!

egreen> Real nifty accomplishment, there, Nick... considering the
egreen> entire UK will fit nicely inside Texas!

Uh, that's irrelevant.  The Houston Chronicle mailed out 300
first-class letters to known recipents (ie: they could phone them and
ask them if they'd gotten the letter yet) around the state of Texas.
Only about 280 of them ever made it there.  Only ~200 made it there
within 7 days.

I've personally seen it take 4 weekdays for a letter to leave my
employer (the University of Houston) and get to my (then) home in the
montrose area of Houston, a total distance of around 8 miles.



--
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Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: dev2@inform.co.nz (Michael Seales)
Subject: Bleeding ABS brakes
Date: Thu, 21 Jan 1993 22:07:54 GMT
Organization: InForm Group Ltd.

I'm asking this on behalf of a friend who as a K100LT (1990 model). He was
bleeding his rear brake and had a lot of hassle getting rid of air bubbles.
He suspects there is something to with the ABS system that makes bleeding
a lot more difficult.

Does anybody know of any special procedure to bleed ABS systems?

Thanks people.

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From: gharriso@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Graeme Harrison)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Clubman's All-British MC Show & Swap
Date: 26 Jan 93 22:34:27 GMT
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server


The 6th Annual Clubman's All-British Motorcycle Show & Swap Meet

Sunday, March 28th, 1993

Honoring Velocette Motorcycles

Santa Clara Country Fairgrounds, San Jose, CA

Open for Show & Swap Entries 6:30am.    General Admission $3  8:30am  

AWARDS  Street & Competition Classes, Restored and Unrestored Divisions
        Show Bike Registration $15 ($5 each additional bike)
        Trophies also for Specials, People's Choice, and Best of Marque

RAFFLE  Win a 1968 BSA Lightning
        Tickets $1 in advance or at the Show
       
        Raffle tickets via: BSAOC, P.O. BOX 594, Novato, CA 94948

BUY & SELL  Swap Spaces $25. Registration deadline March 20th

Produced by the BSA Owners Club of Northern California with the support of
the Ariel, AJS/Matchless, Greeves, Royal Enfield, Norton, Triumph, Velocette,
Vincent Owners Clubs, The A.H.R.M.A., and the BSA Owners Club of Southern CA.

For Details Contact: Don Danmeier 415-897-6145 (days), 415-898-0330 (eves to 9)
   
All Entries/Checks Payable to: BSAOC, P.O. BOX 594, NOVATO, CA 94948

Show Parking at corner of S. 7th Street and Tully Rd. 

NOTICE: No gas allowed in bikes for this indoor event
        No alcohol permitted on the premises

MOTELS: Executive Inn 408/281-8700
        Comfort Inn 408/280-5300
        Motel 6 408/270-3131
        Brookside Inn 408/270-7666
        Rodeway Inn 408/294-1480
        TraveLodge 408/993-1711

All motels located on either Monterey Rd, Fontaine Rd or S. 1st St. 
-- 
Graeme Harrison, Hewlett-Packard Co., Communications Components Division,
350 West Trimble Rd., San Jose, CA 95131. (gh@hpmsd2.sj.hp.com) DoD#0649
From: ray@unisql.UUCP (Ray Shea)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Yuppie poser BMW riders
Date: 21 Jan 93 21:29:05 GMT
Organization: UniSQL, Inc., Austin, Texas, USA

In article <1993Jan19.123236.26649@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>I've never seen any dressed like that. They never wear boots! Sneakers or
>sandals, maybe. And always a high dollar full face helmet. Don't want to mess
>their hair, I guess. Amazing how many people are surprised that I wear a denim
>jacket and jeans in the summer. 

I was relieved when October got here and I was no longer the only person
on the road wearing a leather jacket.  I moved here in August and saw *one*,
exactly *one* other biker wearing leather when the weather was warm (he of
course had a full set of bright red leathers).


-- 
Ray Shea                                      
UniSQL, Inc.                             Sometimes I feel like a blue dog.
unisql!ray@cs.utexas.edu                                     -- The Blue Dog
DoD #0372 -- Team Twinkie -- '88 Hawk NT650
From: Russell.P.Hughes@dartmouth.edu (Russell P. Hughes)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Motorcycle workstands
Date: 27 Jan 93 15:21:37 GMT
Organization: HOG HEAVEN
X-Posted-From: InterNews1.0a5@newshost.dartmouth.edu

In article <1993Jan27.012212.3520@nevada.edu>
nhodge@nevada.edu (nhodge@nevada.edu (Neil Hodge)) writes:

> I am wondering if there is a way to use a regular floor jack to lift my 
> motorcycle for certain maintenance.  If not, which motorcycle workstands are
> good quality and do they lift up the rear wheel, front wheel, or other part of
> the bike.

I use Cycle Jack, from an outfit in Nebraska.  Costs about $350 but
works well, is easy to maneuver, and it is great for putting the bike
up for the winter *sigh*

Russ Hughes  '92 FXSTC  DoD# 6022(10E20)
"Love ...yeah, that's the feeling you get when you like something
as much as your motorcycle."
                     --Sonny Barger (as told to me by Ed Campbell,
                  who has an old friend who was there at the time)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: igh50171@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (The Seer )
Subject: Re: trickle charger recommendations?
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 00:56:58 GMT

tcora@pica.army.mil (Tom Coradeschi) writes:

>In article <1993Jan21.115610.21617@netcom.com>, rhcohen@netcom.com (Robert
>Cohen) wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> I have had lots of trouble overcharging my bike battery using the small
>> transformer units.  I'm looking for a charger which can trickle-charge
>> for weeks at a time, keeping the battery fully charged, but not over-
>> charging it.

>Another route you might wish to try, since you've already got a charger, is
>to simply put a timer on the thing. One of those cheapo plug-in units is
>what I've got on mine (the kind with pins to turn power on and off). I've
>had it running for a week now, with the timer set for the shortest interval
>it can handle, which looks to be about 1/2 hour a day. I ETDA'd my battery,
>charged it and set this sucker up last week. So far it seems to be holding.
>The timer ought to be lots cheaper than another charger (like 10 bux at
>home despot).

>                tom coradeschi <+> tcora@pica.army.mil


Be Careful.  Many battery chargers will drain the battery if left in place
with the power off.  Check to see if this is happening.  You will ruin the
battery if it is constantly being charged and discharged.

-Ian