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From: mouse@thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Date: 17 Jul 92 19:08 MDT
Subject: Re: Non-rectangular bitmaps/setting
Nf-ID: #N:1992Jul17.150805.29608@thunder.m:-130841752:001:1193
Nf-From: thunder.mcrcim.mcgill.edu!mouse    Jul 17 19:08:00 1992


In article <1992Jul13.194934.5605@news.cs.brandeis.edu>, slanka@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu (Ishantha Lokuge) writes:

> I am trying to create a non-rectangular bitmap...

This is not possible.  You'll have to get the effect you want some
other way.

> I wish to display this using XCopyPlane.  How can one set the
> background of a pixmap so that in effect it is transparent.

Pixmaps don't have backgrounds.

> This means that the pixmap will appear to be irregular (or just the
> shape of the foreground)....

You will have to go about your ends some other way.  There are various
possibilities.  One is to create a bitmap that is 1 where you want to
change things when copying and 0 when not, then set this as the
clip-mask in your GC, and then do an XFillRectangle (if the drawings
are all one color) or an XCopyArea/XCopyPlane (if you want the opaque
area to include more than one color).  In the former case, you can also
set the bitmap as the stipple in the GC and set the fill-style to
FillStippled.

If the shape decomposes easily into relatively few rectangles, you can
also take advantage of that and draw each rectangle separately.

					der Mouse

			    mouse@larry.mcrcim.mcgill.edu
From: ccnjb@bristol.ac.uk (Nick Bruton)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: xrn6-8
Date: 31 Jul 92 09:19:18 GMT
Organization: University of Bristol, England

I am trying to compile xrn6-8 on a sun sparc all seems to go ok until the very
last line where I get the error:
ld: Undefined Symbol
    _XawTextSetLastPos

Can anyone give me a fix??
Thanks Nick Bruton
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.os.linux
From: trussell@cwis.unomaha.edu (Tim Russell)
Subject: X386 config help needed
Keywords: X386 Hi-Rez
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 03:41:29 GMT

    Would anyone out there happen to have a 1024x768 interlaced Xconfig
setup for a CompuAdd Hi-Rez card (1M memory) with a CompuAdd VGA monitor
(catalog #51091)?  I had the proper setup under SCO, but unfortunately
it got nuked awhile ago and I can't get things setup again under Linux.

    Thanks in advance.

--
    Tim Russell                 Omaha, NE              trussell@unomaha.edu
"Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child."
					-- Vice President Dan Quayle
From: mark@FibHaifa.com (Mark Sterin)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: XtVaCreateWidget in case converter (XtVaTypedArg) fails
Date: 26 Jul 92 14:43:27 GMT
Organization: Fibronics Ltd., Haifa - ISRAEL


Hi,

Does anybody out there know how does XtVaCreate behave if the
converter (invoked by XtVaTypedArg) fails ?
It seems that all the resources after the failed one are not
accepted, or even worse - they are damaged !!

Any ideas ?

-- 

  Mark Sterin
  mark@FibHaifa.com       
  Fibronics Ltd.
  M.T.M. Industrial Park.
  Haifa, 31905, Israel.
  Fax:   Intl.+972-4-550-266
  Voice: Intl.+972-4-313-645

The reason computer chips are so small is computers don't eat much.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: yuri@physics.heriot-watt.ac.UK (Yuri Rzhanov)
Subject: Re: xwud fails
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 08:58:13 GMT

>In article <1992Jul28.212909.20892@tfs.com>, meir@tfs.com (Meir Zaid) writes:
>|>
>|>
>|>I would like to dump an images of a menu from an application I am
>|>writing in order to put it in the documentaion.  The problem is that
>|>when I run xwd while the menu is posted I get the error -
>|>
>|>xwd: error: Can't grab the mouse.
>|>
>
I think there is a way of doing it using xgrabsc (available on
export.lcs.mit.edu as xgrabsc.1.5.tar.Z). Among the options there is:

     -k      Select the window under the mouse when  the  Control
             key  is  pressed.   This  option is normally used in
             getting images of menus.  Pop up the  menu,  option-
             ally  move  the pointer to the window containing the
             menu, and strike the Control key to begin the dump.

Yuri

Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:14569 comp.windows.x.motif:5298
From: warner@natasha.sdsc.edu (Ken Warner)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
Subject: Wire Frame Modeling???
Followup-To: comp.windows.x.motif
Date: 29 Jul 1992 17:52:12 GMT
Organization: San Diego Supercomputer Center
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: natasha.sdsc.edu

I am writing a Motif application that requires simple wire frame
modeling.  Using: X11r4; Motif 1.1.2 (soon 1.1.4); Sun Sparcstation.

Does anyone know of a wire frame modeling library that does
such things as perspective projections; hidden line/surface
removal; rotation; scaling; clipping etc. 

I ftp'd WFrame from export but it is not quite what I need. I need
a more general purpose library that can be used to draw on a drawing
widget.

Ken Warner
VisLab / San Diego Supercomputer Center
warner@sdsc.edu


Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: klee@wsl.dec.com (Ken Lee)
Subject: Re: One program - two displays - two cursors
Reply-To: klee@wsl.dec.com
Organization: DEC Western Software Laboratory
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 92 18:36:30 GMT

|> How can one program be displayed on the screens of two networked
|> machines at the same time with two cursors active? Both cursors
|> independently operated; one by one user and one by the other?

Just open connections to each display.  If you're using the X Toolkit, put
all the display pointers into the same application context for easy event
handling.

-- 
Ken Lee
DEC Western Software Laboratory, Palo Alto, Calif.
Internet: klee@wsl.dec.com
uucp: uunet!decwrl!klee
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: jliddle@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu (Jean Liddle)
Subject: Re: X resources
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 19:02:37 GMT
Organization: Illinois State University

In article <Bs3vKr.72x@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu> pfferrei@laplace.uwaterloo.ca (Paulo Ferreira) writes:
>
>Could someone give be a brief explanation of resources.
>
>Specifically, I don't  understand why some resources use a '*' and other
>use '.' as separator characters.
>
[taken from X Windows System User's Guide, Vol. 3, Quercia & O'Reilly]

resource specifications have the following format:

object.subobject[.subobject ...].attribute: value

Using the periods, you have to be familiar with the entire widget
heiarchy in order to specify a particular attribute.  The asterisk 
acts as kind of a wild card, allowing you to skip the intermediate
subobjects.  This is handy if (a) you are not familair with the
widget heiarchy and/or (b) you want the resource file to be valid 
even if the internal widget heiarchy changes.

Thus, object*attribute is shorthand for object.sub1.attribute, and
will still work if a later version of the software is reorganized
to object.sub1.sub2.attribute.  "object" is, of course, the client
program name (e.g. twm).

>Secondly, is the format for .Xresources and .Xdefaults files the same?
>

I believe the basic syntax is the same, although currently I only use
the .Xdefaults file.  Anyone else have a more difinitive answere?

>I read some books that talked about this topic but didn't explain the 
>above well enough for me...
>
Check out Quercia & O'Reilly's book.  It has been a very good reference
for me as I've been getting started (I've only been doing this for a
couple of weeks now).

best of luck!

Jean.
-- 
Jean Liddle                                 | == Bill Clinton for President ==
Computer Science, Illinois State University | 
e-mail:  jliddle@ilstu.edu                  | - Carol Mosley Braun for Senat -
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.motif
From: mahesh@widget.evb.com (B.G. Mahesh)
Subject: Need some help with VisibityNotify event....
Reply-To: mahesh@evb.com
Organization: SETT Inc.
Affiliate-Of: EVB Software Engineering, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 18:23:46 GMT

Hi,

	I have set the VisibilityChangeMask bit in
	the event-mask attribute of the window. But when
	another window obscures this window the VisibilityNotify
	event does not get raised. Could someone tell me where
	I may be going wrong ? Please respond by email. I hope
	someone will respond today as I need the solution immediately.

thanks


-- 

Mahesh
mahesh@evb.com
From: gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (Gregory Lampshire)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: RTF text widget
Date: 22 Jul 92 17:46:17 GMT




I haven't seen any mention of an RTF text widget, I was wondering if  
someone has a pointer to an RTF text widget or if it is a component in  
another program.  I would appreciate any response on this.


I am only looking for public domain type widgets.



--
Gregory Lampshire 
Virginia Tech 
Bradley Department of Electrical Engineering
gbol@rglnext.geol.vt.edu (NeXTmail welcome)
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employer
From: ahj1@quads.uchicago.edu (andrew jaffe)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: Font formats
Date: 24 Jul 92 18:40:17 GMT
Reply-To: ahj1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


Well, I'm really surprised this isn't a FAQ, but I have a question about
font formats: like, what are the differences between them. I often hear
references to 'bdf' and the sun here uses 'pcf' and my terminal requires
'snf'. Is there any way to get the terminal (Visual TX100M) to read the
PCF fonts? Or will we just have to bite down and use the disk space (at
least it can read compressed files!)

thanks,



-- 
Andrew Jaffe
Dep't of Astronomy and Astrophysics
University of Chicago
ajaffe@oddjob.uchicago.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: raw@ushiva.wariat.org (Roland Wilcher)
Subject: Xstones
Organization: The Software Sandbox
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 04:23:27 GMT



Does anybody know where one can obtain the Xstone benchmarks ?
Any pointers to sources greatly appreciated . Please respond 
via netmail.


-- 
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-- Seymour (Sy) Leon                                raw@ushiva.wariat.org
Roland A. Wilcher                              6207 Luther Cleve Oh 44103
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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.unix.questions,comp.unix.admin,alt.sys.sun
From: heas@chpc.org (Heas)
Subject: X11R4 X server on Sun3 CG
Organization: Center For High Perf. Computing of WPI; Marlboro Ma
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 15:27:23 GMT


        I have a Sun 3/60 running Sun O/S 4.1.1.  The machine has what appears
to be the optional Color Graphics board (4 BNC connectors).  Would this be a
high-res monitor?  How many different color options were available?  do eeprom
settings regarding monitor characteristics affect software behavior ?

        The problem appears to be with X11R4's X server on the color tube.  I
have several sun 3/60's with B&W that work perfect (all are being used merely
for X, hard to figure :-) ).  However, on the color sun refresh, does not work
properly.  That is, if any error messages, system messages, or echos are
displayed while starting mwm, it is impossible to refresh the screen.  I mean
the screen gets a refresh but those messages remain, whereas they are normally
erased.  Not a big deal normally, but these messages seem to reside in the
foreground on *top* of all windows.

        So I figured that there was a difference in the server... brilliant,
no?  The only obvious posibility that I saw was /usr/bin/X11/X which happens
to be a link to either Xsun or Xsun.r3.  I'm not sure of the difference
between the two, but I had different results.  I am a little X ignorant.

        when X --> Xsun, messages where placed near the bottom of the screen,
but if X --> Xsun.r3, messages where placed starting near the middle left of
the screen.  This was the only noticable difference anyway.

        I have only one error being displayed. mwm complains:
mwm: Invalid specification on line 7 of specification string
        But, I don't understand.  I get the same message on the B&W, which
works.

        so, do any of the wizards have any ideas ?  I went through all the man
pages, etc and could not buy a clue.  mail appreciated: heas@chpc.org.

thanks
-heas
From: siegel@mcclb0.med.nyu.edu
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: HELP! What's wrong with this code?...
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:37:17 GMT
Organization: NYU Medical Center, New York, NY 10016, USA

I can't seem to get this code to compile: it gives a Segmentation
Fault on the last line. Can anyone tell me what I've done wrong?

/**************************CODE STARTS HERE *************************/

/* Compile with: cc smalltest.c -lXm -lXt -lX11 -o smalltest */

#include <stdio.h>
#include <X11/Xlib.h>
#include <X11/Xutil.h>
#include <Xm/Xm.h>
#include <Xm/Form.h>
#include <X11/Xirisw/GlxMDraw.h>
#include <X11/Xirisw/GlxDraw.h>
#include <X11/keysym.h>
#include <gl/gl.h>
#include <gl/device.h>
#include <math.h>

static XtAppContext app_context;

static XrmOptionsDescRec SGIoptions =
	{"-display", "*display", XrmoptionNoArg, "mchip02:0.0"};
static Cardinal num_options = 1;

Widget SGItoplevel, MACtoplevel;

Display *MACdisplay;

main(int argc, char **argv)
{
	SGItoplevel = XtAppInitialize
	(
		&app_context,
		"GLcanvas",
		&SGIoptions,
		num_options,
		&argc, argv,
		NULL, /* instead of fallback_resources */
		NULL,
		0
	);

	MACdisplay = XtOpenDisplay(&app_context, "Display_Canvas",
		"glcanvas", NULL, 0, &argc, argv);
	MACtoplevel = XtAppCreateShell("glcanvas", "GLcanvas",
		topLevelShellWidgetClass, MACdisplay, NULL, 0);
}

I appreciate whatever help anyone can lend/give away. Please respond
via email to:
	siegel@med.nyu.edu
	Chris Siegel
	NYU School of Medicine
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: neal@neal.ctd.comsat.com (Neal Becker)
Subject: Re: -lPW causes problems building R5 on HP 9000/700s
Followup-To: comp.windows.x
Organization: COMSAT Labs
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 14:25:31 GMT

As far as I can see, you need -lPW only for alloca.  You can extract
alloca.o from libPW, and make liballoca.a.  Using this will be safe.
As an alternative, you can probably remove -lPW from most X11R5 stuff
without any problem.
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,comp.windows.x.apps,alt.sources
From: william@lanai.cs.ucla.edu (William Cheng)
Subject: Re: XPaint 2.0 Beta 2 Release Information
Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 92 04:37:10 GMT

In article <l76c4kINNa20@spim.mips.com> koblas@mips.com (David Koblas) writes:
>The second beta release of XPaint 2.0 is now available for use, it can
>be FTPed from export.lcs.mit.edu or found in a recent alt.sources
>posting.
>
>From the README file:
>-------
>
>                              XPAINT 2.0 Beta 2
>
>.
>.
>.
>
>There is one REQURIREMENT, which is that you have a compiler that
>understands void* and prototypes.

When I try to compile this on a SPARC running SunOS 4.1.1 with version
2.2.2 of gcc, I get the following error messages when compiling Options.c:

  gcc -g -ansi   -c Operation.c 
  In file included from Operation.c:18:
  /usr/include/stdlib.h:18: conflicting types for `abort'
  <built-in>:0: previous declaration of `abort'
  /usr/include/stdlib.h:26: conflicting types for `exit'
  <built-in>:0: previous declaration of `exit'
  Operation.c: In function `OperationInit':
  Operation.c:201: warning: assignment makes integer from pointer without a cast
  Operation.c:222: warning: passing arg 3 of `XtAddCallback' from incompatible
      pointer type
  make: *** [Operation.o] Error 1

The only line I changed in Makefile is to add 'CC=gcc'.  What am I doing
wrong?  Thanks in advance!
-- 
Bill Cheng // UCLA Computer Science Department // (310) 575-4507
3564-C Boelter Hall // Los Angeles, California 90024 // USA
william@CS.UCLA.EDU      ...!{uunet|ucbvax}!cs.ucla.edu!william
From: larsen@OES.ORST.EDU (Scott Larsen)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: .dvi previewers for X
Summary: print current page?
Date: 27 Jul 92 01:48:58 GMT
Article-I.D.: talon.1992Jul27.014858.9228
Organization: Oregon Extension Service, Oregon State University, Corvallis, Or.


Say folks, what X .dvi previewers do you use?  I've got xdvi, but find 
it lacking in certain areas.

Do you know if there might be a X .dvi previewer that can be configured to 
print the current page being displayed?  (ie. runs something like dviselect 
and then dvips)?


Scott Larsen
larsen@oes.orst.edu                      UUCP: hplabs!hp-pcd!orstcs!larsen
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From: weinri@athena.cs.uga.edu (Kevin Weinrich)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: More problems building R5
Summary: gcc: Program ld got fatal signal 11.  Whuzzat?
Date: 28 Jul 92 20:15:03 GMT
Organization: University of Georgia, Athens

I am trying to build X11R5 off a CD-ROM (from PDQ) on a Sun 4/330 running
OS 4.1.1.  I customized site.def and sun.cf minimally.  When I "make
World," I'm getting the following errors in my log file:
  gcc -fstrength-reduce -fpcc-struct-return -o phigsmon phigsmon.o -O
    ../libphigs.a -L../../../.././lib/Xaw -lXaw -L../../../.././lib/Xmu
    -lXmu -L../../../.././lib/Xt -lXt -L../../../.././extensions/lib -lXext
    -L../../../.././lib/X -lX11   -lm -B/usr/bin/
  gcc: Program ld got fatal signal 11.
  *** Error code 1

I'm getting these errors for lots of the clients it's trying to make:
xeyes, twm, xauth, xbiff, etc.  I just barely understand what I
think is happening -- gcc isn't finding a library or isn't liking the one
it finds.  When I tried to manually compile this same thing with:
  gcc -fstrength-reduce -fpcc-struct-return -o phigsmon phigsmon.o -O
    -L../../../.././lib/Xmu -lXmu
I get the same error.  When I try to do the build using Sun's cc, I get:
  cc: Fatal error in ld: Segmentation fault (core dumped)
which (I am guessing now) points to the same problem.

When I cd from the directory where I think this compile is
occuring to ../../../.././lib/Xmu, I find a library libXmu.sa.4.10.  Isn't
this what ld wants?  What is it really complaining about?  The man page
for ld says that "-lXmu" will make it look for "libXmu.a".  Does libXmu.sa.4.10
need to be linked to libXmu.a, or is the ld man page fibbing?

Any help to end my frustration (besides a recommendation for
a large-caliber firearm) would be most appreciated.

-Kevin Weinrich
weinri@athena.cs.uga.edu
Xref: sparky comp.windows.x:14325 comp.unix.aix:8138
From: kriss@frec.bull.fr (C.Mollard@frec.bull.fr)
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x,bull.sys.aix,bull.gui,comp.unix.aix
Subject: WCL on IBM RS6000
Keywords: WCL, AIX, IBM RS6000
Date: 24 Jul 92 11:00:57 GMT
Reply-To: Christian.Mollard@ec.bull.fr
Followup-To: comp.windows.x
Organization: Bull S.A. Echirolles


I like to know if somebody has successfully ported Wcl 1.4 (or later) on an IBM RS6000
(AIX 3.2 with AIX Window) or if somebody have a way to do it right.

Any pointer is welcome.

Many thanks,


Christian.


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Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: ucfapsm@ucl.ac.UK (Mr Petr Smilauer)
Subject: (none)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 08:58:54 GMT

SIGNOFF XPERT
From: snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
Subject: XGetErrorDatabaseText
Date: 24 Jul 92 16:22:36 GMT
Organization: Laser-Scan Ltd., Cambridge

OK I'm thoroughly miffed here, I shouldn't need to post this, but quite frankly
I can't get what I want and there aren't any demo bits of cod ein any of my
books, just the definition of the function.

So just how do you use XGetErrorDatabaseText() ?

 XGetErrorDatabaseText(Display,
                       app_name, /* is this argv[0] or the -name argument? */
                       XXXXX_STRING, /* see below */
                       "my defualt message if it fails - it will!",
                       my_default_buffer_for_message,
                       my_default_buffer_length);

error request code I'm trying to get is

XError *error_event;
error_event->request_code; /* This is what I'm saying is 8 for the example */

(I know about XGetErrorText() and I use it for error_event->error_code.)

OK so assuming my error request code is say error 8 (X_MapWindow) this is in 
the /usr/lib/X11/XErrorDB file as

XRequest.8:X_MapWindow

Obviosly I'll be taking the real error number from an XError, but for this
exmaple, we'll use an error number (Major Opcode) of 8.
But why if I call the function do I always get my default text, no 
matter what I pass for XXXXX_STRING. I've tried:-

1) casting the error code to a char and passing it's address as XXXXX_STRING.
2) using sprintf to create a) "8"
                           b) "XRequest.8"
                           c) "XRequest.8:"
                           d) "XRequest8"
                           e) "XRequest8:"
   and then pass that string as XXXXX_STRING.

Why doesn't it work, irrespective of platform (DEC, Sun, HP, IBM etc)

WARNING: I only want an example, don't quote the standard RTFM or bits of it
at me, doing that will get you a flame. I'm at my wits end. I want a 
concrete example that works. Sure after reading this warning you may not 
feel inclined to respond, but I'd rather that than people just spouting the
manual at me. BY concrete - I mean some code, not a description!

Oh yeah, I've also tried XProtoError (I Suspect this is correct) and 
XLibMessage and XRequestMajor, all with similar extensions (.8, .8: etc) as
above, all with no luck.

For an example assume protocol request value of 8 and XProtoError. See if you
can give me some code that works.

Hoping some kind soul will help

Stephen Kellett
snail@lsl.co.uk
Newsgroups: comp.windows.x
From: da188@city.ac.UK
Subject: Re: I NEED HELP PLEASE
Reply-To: da188@city.ac.uk
Organization: The Internet
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 10:37:07 GMT

>2) I try compiling my own stuff with imake and make, but the damn software
>   insists that it needs some widget class library?

The standard widget library is Xaw. If your clients require other widget
libraries which are not installed then you wont be able to compile the
clients! The other problem may be that your libraries are installed in strange
place. In that case, you will need to modify your makefile so that you include

	-Lpath/name/of/library/directory/for/X11

in any compilations.

>I got alot of software from gatekeeper.net.com /pub/X11/contrib,
>but it seems that most of the stuff requires some widgetclass stuff.
>Not being much of an x-windows master, I am only adept enough to be
>able to modify the imakefile. Beyond that, I am hopeless...

Much better to build a makefile using xmkmf and modify *that* instead.

>My question is: Are there any good programs or games available out
>there that might keep me busy? I have seen xtrek, and it is quite good.
>Unfortunately, it's not quite so fun to play on your own and I've already
>gotten pretty bored with it. Any other ideas or suggestions? I'd appreciate
>all and any you might have.

Somebody posted a list of good X games awhile ago - maybe the original poster
of that summary could send you a list?


Aj.
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