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Date:         Thu, 19 Nov 1992 09:48:46 -0400
From:         The Integral Differential <DEMON@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Reagan dodged the draft!
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>Andy:
>In article <01GRAX9L8GYW008E3A@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU>, DEMON@DESIRE.WRIGHT.EDU (The
>Integral Differential) says:
>>
>>>>        Reagan is hardly a hypocrite.  The army asked him to make films.

        Note that this in no way equates acting with combat.

>>>>Brett'
>>>
>>>Oh, I see "I'm not a soldier, but I play one in films" is it?I thought it was
>>>only Reagan who confused his films with reality (if you were joking, I'm
>)
>>sorry
>>>Sylvester Stallone dodged the draft during Vietnam (he taught in a convent
>>>school in Switzerland) yet he plays Rambo, a Vietnam war hero, I suppose you
>>>see no hypocricy in that either?
>>
>>        I fail to see how you can equate serving your country as the army asks
>>you with "dodging".  And who cares about Rambo?
>
>Well it was you who equated acting in films with combat. There were many

        Nice attempt to "dodge" the question :).

        So, once again, how do you equate *serving as requested* with
*dodging*?  Notice that acting is not mentioned in that question.  Nor are any
acting == combat assertions.

>actors during WWII who could have taken Reagan's route, instead many served
>and some died.

        They could only have taken that route if the Army asked them.  When you
arrive at the processing center, they don't ask you where you want to go, they
tell you.

>Reagan had a choice, he chose to take the dodge and stay in
>Holywood.

        Reagan had no choice.  It was make films.

        There was no dodge.

>Reagan as Clinton took a legal alternative to the draft, by

        Reagan took no alternative.  He served as asked.  There was no "uh,
yeah, just as soon as I finish this school thingy..."

>the definition we seem to be using, that is a dodge. If you want to be

        Only you (and maybe T :) seem to be using that definition.  Next you'll
tell us that Bush "dodged" because he wasn't in the infantry?  How about those
accountants who managed supply back in the states?  Is you definition of
"dodge" that the person never got shot at?

>strict in your usage than the people who dodged are those who fled to
>Canada or tore up or ignored their draft notices, by THAT definition neither
>Clinton nor Quayle is a draft dodger in the strict sense.

        Dodging has a pretty standard defintion: those who avoided the draft
through political means, by simply not reporting or by leaving the country.

        Which did Reagan do?

>I suggest you cant
>take one definiton and apply it to Clinton and then use another definition
>and use it to excuse Reagan, that is intellectually dishonest. If Clinton
>dodged the draft, so did Reagan.

        Nice strawman.  Set up an argument that no one has used, then say "gosh
that's dishonest" like you've proven something.

        I must say I can understand why people are going to nomail.  The level
of debate here is pathetic.

Brett'