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Info-Hams Digest            Wed, 18 Nov 92       Volume 92 : Issue 1210

Today's Topics:
            Amiga Ham Radio Contesting Programs Available
                             AMSAT News?
                           Antenna mounting
                             Famous Hams
                  Famous or well known HAMS (3 msgs)
                     How long waiting for ticket?
             Log Periodic Arrays Using Inductive Loading
      Need first date of an old Call: WA2SDY  Syracuse Univ. ARC
                       Novex/Yaesu Charger Mod?
                Serial Interface; Kenwood TS-440 & 850
                     Third Party Traffic Question
                  USA-built HT's (where to find...)
                       Usefulness of Morse Code
               Usefulness of Morse Code (and MicroSats)
                 Using MC3362 for a SuperHet Receiver
                     Yaesu FT 727-r and Repeaters

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 17:29:58 GMT
From: utcsri!newsflash.concordia.ca!mizar.cc.umanitoba.ca!access.usask.ca!herald.usask.ca!hardie@uunet.uu.net
Subject: Amiga Ham Radio Contesting Programs Available
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Over the last few years I have put together some programs to handle contest
logging/duping/scoring for the Amiga. The programs are supplied on an AS-IS
at YOUR own risk basis. The whole lot are in the file 
pub/amiga/hamradio/logger-206.lzh on ftp.usask.ca
There is also a separate file ss-206.lzh containing only the sweepstakes program
for anyone who wants to try the SSB SS this weekend and doesn't want to have
to FTP all 200+K of logger-206.

The hamradio directory also contains the V7.00d distribution of the CBBS
packet BBS program that I have ported to the Amiga. 

Read the DISCLAIMER in pub/amiga. 

If you take CBBS or the logging programs, please drop me Email and I can
let you know if I place an update in the directory.

Pete hardie@herald.usask.ca  VE5VA

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:58:22 GMT
From: news.mentorg.com!mbutts!mbutts@uunet.uu.net
Subject: AMSAT News?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Whatever happened to the regular postings of AMSAT News?  Anyone know?

                        73 de KC7IT
-- 
Mike Butts     KC7IT     Research Engineering Manager    mbutts@qcktrn.com
Quickturn Systems, Inc., Mentor Graphics Campus,       voice: 503-685-1302
8005 SW Boeckman Road, Wilsonville, Oregon 97070-7777    fax: 503-685-7987
My opinions are my own, and may or may not be shared by Quickturn Systems.

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Date: 18 Nov 92 18:55:00 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu!pitt.edu!hpb.cis.pitt.edu!hpb@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Antenna mounting
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <199211181445.AA00705@tilde.csc.ti.com> dube@cpdvax.CSc.ti.COM writes:
>
>Real Hams who like to park in parking garages and who use 5/8-wave antennas
>use mag-mounts so they don't rip their antennas out of the holes on the roof.
>
   Hams who drill holes use 1/4 wave 2M antennas when they know the
commute will "destinate" in a parking garage.  For other trips,
especially on the open road when the distance between repeaters is
likely to be greater, they will unscrew the 1/4 and install a 5/8.
This is a major advantage of a permanently installed antenna.  Every time
you remove and then reinstall a mag mount, you will scratch your paint just
a little bit.  Over the years, if you always replace the mag mount at the same
spot, you will leave a blemish on your roof.  In comparison,
there's no wear-and-tear on the car when you change antennas with a
permanent mount.

73,
Harry Bloomberg WA3TBL
hpb@vms.cis.pitt.edu

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Date: 18 Nov 92 18:22:44 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!dtix!oasys!hanners@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Famous Hams
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In rec.radio.amateur.misc, rc@cmr.ncsl.nist.gov (Robert Carpenter) writes:
>A number of people have claimed that the "James Stewart" in the ham data base
>is not a famaous actor. I suspect that they are WRONG. The real name of
>Stewart Granger is James Stewart - he had to take another name when going into
>the movies, since his actual name was already taken!  It seems to me that he
>is about the right age.

I don't think so.  I seem to recall taht Stewart Granger died two or
three years ago... it was in his obit that I heard this story too.

-- Bob

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Robert J. Hanners         "My comments; only mine."          *DIASTOLE* 676673
CD, NSWC, Annapolis, MD                              hanners@oasys.dt.navy.mil

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:37:18 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!paladin.american.edu!news.univie.ac.@!hp4at!mcsun!julienas!nenufar.saclay.cea.fr!chouette.saclay.cea.fr!parnoul@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Famous or well known HAMS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

|> >
|> >His real name is Marlon Brando.  Sister is Jocelyn Brando.
|> >
|> >Has kids named Brando, etc.
|> >
|> >But....what is his call?
|> >
|> >tnx es 73 de K9CUN, Jack
|> 
|> I heard the same thing too, that he owned an island in French Polynesia
|> 
|> to *get away from it all* and had gotten a ham license.  I'll look it up
|> 
|> when I get home tonight.  Anyone know why he moved to the Pacific??
|> 
|> Answer:  to get away from cheap European butter! aaarrrggghhhhh
|> (You had to be there.)
|> 73, Tom
|> 
|> -- 
Yes, Marlon Brando lives in a French Polynesia Island called Tetiaroa Island
at roughly 10 Nautic Miles from Tahiti.
He really owns the Island and has a bunch of gards cruising around the island
(polynesian guys are found of the last sea turtles living around the island).

The island can be seen from tahiti up hill, depending on the weather.

Just get to polynesia once (and look for a desert atol) and you will understand
why MB lives over there :-)

Question: what about French butter ?

73 de f1hnk/Pat.

RYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRYRY

 Patrick Arnoul    F1HNK                  Email: parnoul@chouette.saclay.cea.fr
 French Atomic Commission (C.E.A)
 Centre d'Etudes de Saclay                Phone: (33) 1 69 08 82 91
 DTA/LETI/DEIN  Bat 528                    
 F-91191 GIF SUR YVETTE CEDEX               Fax: (33) 1 69 08 83 95

THE QUICK BROWN FOX JUMPED OVER THE LAZY DOG'S BACK THE QUICK BRWON FOX JUMPED O

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Date: 18 Nov 92 20:22:18 GMT
From: olivea!inews.Intel.COM!sousa.intel.com!jreece@ames.arpa
Subject: Famous or well known HAMS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <2b0673b7.dodeca@dodeca.UUCP>, clyde@dodeca.UUCP writes:

> I did a dump of the Beverly Hills hams (sounds like a feature film)
> and found something interesting:

> Real Name: LOU LOU BEAULIEU         Birthday: MAY 24, 1945
> Real Name: EM GEE                   Birthday: MAY 10, 1955

Hmmm....  Isn't it a crime to get a federal license for anything by using a 
pseudonym or alias as a real name?

-- 
John Reece			"This lifeboat is full"	
Not an Intel spokesman 			 

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Date: 18 Nov 1992 20:37:43 GMT
From: swrinde!cs.utexas.edu!bcm!lib!oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu!jmaynard@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Famous or well known HAMS
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <BxxHx7.Cy5@inews.Intel.COM> jreece@sousa.intel.com writes:
>> Real Name: LOU LOU BEAULIEU         Birthday: MAY 24, 1945
>Hmmm....  Isn't it a crime to get a federal license for anything by using a 
>pseudonym or alias as a real name?

Has it occurred to anyone else that Priscilla Presley might be the pseudonym?
-- 
Jay Maynard, EMT-P, K5ZC, PP-ASEL | Never ascribe to malice that which can
jmaynard@oac.hsc.uth.tmc.edu      | adequately be explained by stupidity.
           "Cat: Four legs and an attitude." -- Jim Reese

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Date: 18 Nov 92 19:51:49 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!bu.edu!wang!dbushong@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: How long waiting for ticket?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

A friend of mine passed her tech last Saturday, and we both are
wondering when she will get her license.  Anybody recently gotten
theirs?

Also.... if you feel like telling her congrats, feel free 
(send to nancy.webb@office.wang.com)

73,
Dave
-- 
Dave Bushong, Wang Laboratories, Inc.   Amateur Radio Callsign KZ1O
Project Leader, OCR products            kz1o@n0ary.#noca.ca.na
Internet: dbushong@wang.com

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 16:53:09 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnewsm!nk30@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Log Periodic Arrays Using Inductive Loading
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

	Hello
	To stimulate some thought about antennas and to help me gain
more experience about antennas I thought I would post a question about
LPA antennas. Could I make a Log Periodic Array using inductively loaded
elements? I realize there would be power limitations. What about bandwidth? 
Maybe a stupid question since LPA are suppose to have a design frequency 
range. For example for 14 Mhz to 30 Mhz. Could I use the same formulas
give in the handbook? Since the feedpoint impedance would change due to the
inductive loading, what method of feeding the antenna would work?
			Thank you 
			Jeff Zell
			NK3O

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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 92 19:43:06 EST
From: usc!rpi!newsserver.pixel.kodak.com!psinntp!psinntp!newstand.syr.edu!rodan.acs.syr.edu!wsmiddel@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Need first date of an old Call: WA2SDY  Syracuse Univ. ARC
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

Howdy Net-Hams,

	We the current members of WA2SDY, the Syracuse University ARC have a
slight dilemna on our hands.  For the upcoming contest this weekend, we need
to know the date our station was first licensed, so that we can give out
accurate signal reports.  We could just make something up, but that wouldn't
be nearly as much fun as actually  finding out how long the club has had
WA2SDY as a call.

	So, if anyone out there has a collection of old callsign books, or
maybe has a call very close to WA2SDY, or has any clue of a way to figure
out how old a call is, please E-Mail me with the results.

	Thanks to anybody with Ideas.

	Will Middelaer
	N2KNU
	1L at SU Law

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Date: 13 Nov 92 18:40:15 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu!pitt.edu!pitt!darth!n3eop!paul@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Novex/Yaesu Charger Mod?
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

feit@ERA.COM (Mark Feit) writes:

> Has anyone got a schematic for the Novex BC-20 charger (the Yaesu
> clone)?  As it's shipped from the factory, it goes straight into the
> charge cycle when there's a battery in it and power is applied.  My

Power it through a manually tripped self keeping relay.  That way if the 
power drops, it will keep the charger off when the power comes back on.


Wire the relay to power through one of the closed-when-energized 
contacts, and connect the NO switch in parallel with the contact.  Use 
the other relay contact to power the charger.

Also, if you have a DPDT relay, you can wire a light thru one of the 
closed-when-de-energized contacts to let you know if you lost power.

I use a similar arrangement with my computer, except I added a one minute 
timer to bring the BBS back up after a power failure, but won't energize 
if the power flickers on.

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:23:18 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!pacific.mps.ohio-state.edu!linac!att!cbnews!wrb@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Serial Interface; Kenwood TS-440 & 850
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

In article <1992Nov16.205903.14445@news.acns.nwu.edu> rdewan@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Rajiv Dewan) writes:
>In article <1992Nov16.120255.893@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu> clmorgan@miavx3.mid.muohio.edu writes:
>>Someone out there in radio (or NET) land has chip numbers and
>>instructions for installing the serial interface circuitry in
>>a TS-440S.  Would he/she be kind enough to share with me?  I'd
>>rather not have to buy the Kenwood product.
>>...
>>Also, the TS-850 ... is this interface already built-in?  I
>>noticed kits for the '440 and '940, but saw nothing listed for
>>the '450 and '850?  Anyone know?
>>
>
>Yes and No.  For a Kenwood rig to work with a serial port on a computer,
>you need two items:
>
>i)  A serial data transmitter/receiver kit for TS440 and TS940.  It is built
>into TS {4|8|9}50 S.  For the 440 the kit consists of two chips, one of 
>which is a ttl uart and the other a counter which is probably used generate 
>a clock rate for the serial data chip.  

The 940 requires an interface board, the IB-10 I believe.

>ii) A level converter.  Here you can make your own or buy Kenwood's for
>$99.  Serial interfaces in many computers (especially ones using Motorola
>chipsets) do not require a -12V level.  A level of 0.2v (or so) is enough.  
>This can be easily achieved using simple transistor interfaces.  Plans
>for this has appeared in QST in the last year or so.
>

This is kind of risky in a couple of ways.  First, not meeting the RS-232
specs is asking for trouble.  A valid mark is -3 to -25V.  While the 0.2V
might be accepted as a valid mark, it might get kind of flakey under some
circumstances (like right in the middle of a contest!).

Second, the isolation of these types of interfaces is not too hot.
Isolation is like lightning protection - you need it or you don't, but when
you need it, you really need it.

SHAMELESS PLUG FOLLOWS:

I have an article coming out in January 1993 QST explaining the basics of
these "level shifters" and describing interfaces for each brand of rig.
The interfaces meet the RS-232 specs and do a good job of isolation.

>Some day Kenwood and other will start using innovative chips like
>the Maxim232 that do the job of a uart and a level converter in one chip.

I agree, sort of.  All of the interfaces I describe use the MAX232 or one
of the clones.  I can, however, see why they might not use one.  The prices
are just now coming down on these things.  If your design is a little more
complex but has $5 less in parts, it might be worth it when you are selling
thousands of them.  The MAX232 is just a level shifter by the way, not a
UART.



				Wally Blackburn AA8DX

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:07:12 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!cbnewse!k9un@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Third Party Traffic Question
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

A "junior" ham (as the poster called him/her) operating outside of his/her
priveleges is not licensed for that operation and therefore is treated
exactly the same as any non-licensed person speaking (note - NOT operating)
over the radio. That is, he/she is a third party - subject to third party
agreements (or lack of ) between the US and other countries.  This has
been the subject of many articles in various ham rags over the years. They
are not even to call CQ on bands where it is likely a DX station from a
country not participating in 3rd party agreements with the US may respond.

Wes Ague - k9un

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Date: 13 Nov 92 19:04:44 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu!pitt.edu!pitt!darth!n3eop!paul@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: USA-built HT's (where to find...)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

rick@ricksys.lonestar.org (Richard McCombs KB5SNF) writes:

> awpaeth@watpix.uwaterloo.ca (Alan Wm Paeth) writes:
> 
> > Are there any amateur HTs built in North America? Yaesu, Kenwood and Icom a
> > all Japanese, albeit with strong support offices in places like Bellevue WA
> > and Torrence, CA.
> > 
> > Are either the "Standard" or "Alnico" rigs make-in-the-USA merchandise?
> > 
> Alinco rigs are made in Japan with a "strong support office" in
> Torrence, CA.

Standard rigs are made by Marantz Japan.

I believe that the only US-made HT is the one by Radio Shack (made by 
Maxon).

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Date: 13 Nov 92 17:26:02 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu!pitt.edu!pitt!darth!n3eop!paul@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Usefulness of Morse Code
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

feg@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (forrest.e.gehrke) writes:

> In article <11247@platypus.uofs.uofs.edu> bill@triangle.cs.uofs.edu (Bill Gun
> >
> >Isn't amazing how none of the arguments for REQUIRING Morse Code hold
> >water??
> 
> Any water held by this argument? Ever try communicating by phone 
> with a 500 Hz bandpass?  And think about how many such narrow
> band passes can be accommodated in a given frequency band?

Haven't tried phone in that narrow of a band, but I have run AMTOR using 
a 270 Hz CW filter.  As for thruput, we have:
.45 sec/3 char burst = 400 char/min.  400/5 char/word = 80 wpm.

80 wpm, error free, in a channel not much wider than that used by a CW 
QSO.

I better quit, because this is starting to sound like a reason to get rid 
of all code because the infomation density is too low... and I haven't 
started on the newer modes that are even higher density...

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Date: 13 Nov 92 17:50:30 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu!pitt.edu!pitt!darth!n3eop!paul@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Usefulness of Morse Code (and MicroSats)
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

paulf@umunhum.stanford.edu (Paul Flaherty) writes:

> >>Isn't amazing how none of the arguments for REQUIRING Morse Code hold
> >>water??

> >Any water held by this argument? Ever try communicating by phone 
> >with a 500 Hz bandpass?  And think about how many such narrow
> >band passes can be accommodated in a given frequency band?
> 
> One argument in favor of the CW requirement is that it's much, much easier to
> build a machine that interprets CW than one that recognizes speech.

And it's much, much easier to build a machine that decodes FSK reliably 
than one for Morse.

I don't suppose that you've ever tried using a Morse decoder before, 
because if you did, you'd know that they don't work worth a darn on 
anything other than a clear channel on perfect (keyer-sent) code.


> Consider, for example, a microsat with a (non-packet) store - and - forward

Why the exclusion?  Because the PACSATS do that already?

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Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:16:55 GMT
From: swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!saimiri.primate.wisc.edu!doug.cae.wisc.edu!umn.edu!csus.edu!netcom.com!joe@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Using MC3362 for a SuperHet Receiver
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

 I've been experimenting with both the Motorola MC3362 and MC3363 (the
 3363 is with an RF amplifier built-in).  The chip is fantasic in that
 is is a complete narrow band FM dual conversion receiver on a chip.
 The first IF is 10.7 and the second is optimized for 455Khz.  The IF
 amplifier is also a high gain limiter before the quadature detector.

 I tried to take the IF amp out and input this signal into a synchronous
 detector but found the IF is a hard limiter.  After looking at the
 amplification per stage (the mixer has 16DB of gain), I decided to
 add a second IF (40DB gain) picked after the 2nd IF filter and applying
 the external amp output to the second quadrature input (after removing
 the quad coil).  Makes a terrific synchronous detector!

 Also, the 1st Local Oscillator was able to be moved to below 7Mhz for
 low frequency operations.  I minimized the effects of the inductive
 part of the resonant circuit (lower drift).

 Anyway, I was thinking about offering the system as a low cost
 sensitive (.2 uv for the 3363 and .7 uv for the 3362) receiver
 kit or completed unit.  Specs include:

   o Double Conversion AM, FM Receiver

   o Excellect Selectivity - 2nd IF Ceramic, mechanical, Xtal filter (your ch)

   o Excellent Sensitivity, .2-.7 uv

   o AM Synchronous Detection, low distortion FM

   o Frequency Spectrum Display Option

   o Accurate S Meter

 GREAT IDEA!!


   --Joe Jesson 312-856-3645

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Date: 13 Nov 92 19:09:22 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cis.ohio-state.edu!news.sei.cmu.edu!drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu!pitt.edu!pitt!darth!n3eop!paul@network.UCSD.EDU
Subject: Yaesu FT 727-r and Repeaters
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

johnp@silver.lcs.mit.edu (John Palaima) writes:

> I have many questions about this "new" radio i have that the book doesnt go i
> 1. How long does it take to charge (its been 6 hours and the battery is at on

It depends on what battery pack you have.  However, most stock chargers 
take 15 hours to charge a battery fully.

> 2. How do i use the DTMF generator that is (supposedly) on it

Most HTs use the front panel buttons, which go into DTMF mode when you 
transmit.

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Date: 18 Nov 92 17:09:54 GMT
From: usc!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!darwin.sura.net!jvnc.net!yale.edu!qt.cs.utexas.edu!cs.utexas.edu!ut-emx!ccwf.cc.utexas.edu@network.UCSD.EDU
To: info-hams@ucsd.edu

References <1992Nov10.134428.9935@rdg.dec.com>, <73190098@hpcupt1.cup.hp.com>, <1992Nov12.205242.19046@odin.corp.sgi.com>ed
Subject : Re: Morse Translation

That sure is complex...... :-)

My cw copying aparatus is even more portable than even that, and quite a
bit smaller (some may say) ... and it is environmentally correct too ... no
waste!!!!! Yes, I copy code ........ in my head!!!! Wow! Yes, you too can 
do it. Sometimes I use headphones, sometimes not. But then, I sometimes wonder
if my blood doesn't pump cq :-) ... because I hear it _everywhere_ ... even
where it's not meant ... annoying honking motorists and the like. Try it; 
it's a lot more fun copying in your head, once you get the hang of it and 
can sit back and do it without thinking, than having to muck about with pen-
cils and ballpoint pens and Braille writers and slate and stylus and computer
and ... but I can copy on paper too when I need to, (for traffic), but mostly
don't.

73 es gud luck in the compost
-- 
Buddy Brannan,  KB5ELV, Riff-Raff #4
Internet: davros@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu
"One foot in a brave new world, one foot still in bed ..."
--from Those Who Dig: "Mr. Banana Head"

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