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From: suthers+@pitt.edu (Daniel D Suthers)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Utility for keeping two directories consistent (identical)?
Summary: Do you know of a utility for keeping the contents of two directories consistent (identical)?
Keywords: directory consistency
Date: 20 Nov 92 15:18:37 GMT
Followup-To: suthers+@pitt.edu
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

Do you know of a utility for keeping the contents of two directories
consistent (identical)?  Or could a shell hacker send me a tcsh
script?

I'm looking for the equivalent of the TI-Explorer
"balance-directories" -- something that checks file dates and copies
them in *either direction* to make the directories consistent.

The point of this: I'm on a distributed file system called AFS. It
goes down a little too often for my tastes. So I keep my work on my
workstation disk as well. I want a script to run at the end of the day
so my work is backed up on AFS.  I also want to be able to edit
remotely on AFS when at home and update the workstation disk when I
come into my office. The "parcel" utility won't do it because it
updates only in one direction (AFS->local). I need something that
doesn't make any assumptions about what machine the directories are
on.

Thanks. Please reply directly to me at suthers+@pitt.edu.


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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura)
Subject: Re: What's wrong with select() ?
Organization: Guru Systems/Funware Department
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 20:03:23 GMT

In <1992Nov20.083358.18475@fwi.uva.nl> casper@fwi.uva.nl (Casper H.S. Dik) writes:

>bad@flatlin.ka.sub.org (Christoph Badura) writes:

>>This means that if you want to check fd 6 with select(2) the first
>>parameter has to be at least 6.
>7

Of course.

I will now write 100 times "Don't post news at 2 am!". Y99p :-)

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: richards@beta.lanl.gov (William C. Richards)
Subject: Wiping disks
Keywords: wipe clear sanitize sanitization
Organization: Los Alamos National Laboratory
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 16:49:22 GMT


I work for a US government contractor where the contracting agency requires
the wiping, clearing, sanitization (what ever you want to call it) of disks
which contain or may contain sensitive information.  Is there any utility,
shell script, or SW package which would accomplish this?

Many thanks in advance for you help.

Peter Richards
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From: ratner@ficus.cs.ucla.edu (Dave "Van Damme" Ratner)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: C Program error
Date: 16 Nov 92 21:51:13 GMT
Organization: UCLA, Computer Science Department

ferguson@wizard.etsu.edu (Jason M Ferguson) writes:

>	slight modification, I typed that statement slightly wrong:
>typedef void (*setvarproc)(char *,int)

>	I'm using cc to compile.
>	Thanks for your help.

I know that many generic "cc" compilers (like SunOS) do not understand
ANSI syntax, which is what you are trying to compile.  Try gcc.

Dave
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD?
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 02:35:41 GMT

>>Because that often saves (a lot of) money.
>
>I doubt it. If you insist to install the OS yourself then you better
>start learning how manage it.

No, no, no, no, no....OS/2, Windows, DOS etc. have PROVED that you don't
have to be a system administrator to install an OS.  Why do you insist on
this dogma "if you aren't computer literate enough to install Unix, you
should pay someone to do it."  Why not make unix easy enough to install
that you don't have to do either?  Why force the problem onto the user 
instead of just FIXING it?  Why defend a flaw?  

I won't defend Dos, or windows' or OS/2s' flaws.  I will highlight their
strong points.  Highlight unixes' strong points, but FIX IT'S FLAWS.

Overly complex installation is a flaw.
From: mbarkah@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Ade Barkah)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Wiping disks (SECURITY MEASURE)
Date: 22 Nov 92 12:16:27 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

richards@beta.lanl.gov (William C. Richards) writes:
: 
: I work for a US government contractor where the contracting agency requires
: the wiping, clearing, sanitization (what ever you want to call it) of disks
: which contain or may contain sensitive information.  Is there any utility,
: shell script, or SW package which would accomplish this?

Yes. I believe it is called the 'shredder.' Probably available near your
local copy rooms, and some secure rooms. The best thing about shredder is
that it works real well with paper also !

Oh, and when you're bored, you can turn it on and toss in a penny. I do
think anything above a penny is illegal to shred. Just a thought...
(of course, in case it is illegal to shred a penny, I do hereby neither
confirm nor deny that I have ever used a government or otherwise shredder 
to shred a penny(ies) because I was bored.) Of course, you can pretend
that you're an NBA player....and, oh, floppies make good friesbies.

But, I've digressed.

Regards,

-Ade.
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From: GC921111%PACEVM.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu ( MANI)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Suggestion for New Unix newsgroup
Date: 22 Nov 92 19:53:26 GMT

How about having a comp.unix.dead group to discuss
*IS UNIX DEAD* and other such hopeless user lamentations?
PLEASE!!! We have had enough bandwidth about this dumb nitpicking
on Unix and other OS..

Mani Venkateswaran
Pace University
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: papresco@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD? (very long)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:04:30 GMT

>Friendliness and easiness to use varies from user to user.  So use the
>editor you find friendly, and let others use the editor they find
>friendly, and quit yer bitchin'.

The point is, until I learned to FTP, make and run, I didn't have any
choice OTHER then vi or emacs.  And I'm lucky I even know about emacs.
As a new user, the computer SHOULD have defaulted to an easier text
editor.

>BTW, I use GNU Emacs (on my UNIX box), which beats the snot out
>anything that runs on a DOS thing, as well as vi.

I'm fairly certain there is emacs for dos, and I KNOW there is emacs
for OS/2.
>
>Any program that might run on a variety of terminals and relies on the
>existence of function keys is inherently crippled.

This argument is illogical!  Right now we have no standard help key.  I
propose a key that exists on 97% of computer/terminal keyboards.  You 
complain about the other 3%.  Surely adding support for F keys doesn't
have to remove support from computers that don't have fkeys, does it?

>F1 is not an intuitive label, I don't see the need for it AT ALL in
>the world of "user friendliness".  Certainly a key labelled "help"
>makes much more sense (though not in the context of UNIX).

Unfortunately few keyboards have such a key.  If it becomes enough
of a standard, though, some keyboards might have an F1/help key.
From: jrb@ramtek.uucp (James Burgess)
Subject: Can I use stty(1) from inside a C program?
Followup-To: comp.unix.questions
Keywords: stty, fork, ioctl, easy
Organization: Ramtek Corporation, San Jose, CA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 22:10:31 GMT

Hi,
my goal is to have my program talk to several different input
devices, all of which have RS233 interfaces, but use different
flavours of RS232; 7bit/8bit, even parity/no parity etc.

To begin with I was using ioctl() to set the appropriate modes, no 
problem.  But now, I have many differnt devices to contend with
so I thought I'd add a configuration file to my program... hmm... how
to parse out the file and do the right thing with ioctl() in under 20
lines of code, perhaps I can use /bin/stty to do it for me? so I put 
in something like the following:

	static char *stty_argv[] = {
	"stty",
	"cs7",	  /* 7 bit data */
	"parenb",   /* parity check */
	"-parodd",  /* even parity  */
	"cstopb",   /* two stop bits */
	"-icanon",  /* no buffering  */
	NULL,
	};

	int pid;
	int status

	if ( (pid = fork()) == 0)
	{
		if (dup2( fd, 0 ) == -1)
		{
			perror( "dup2" );
			_exit(1);
		}
 
		execvp( "stty", stty_argv );
		perror( "exec" );
		_exit(1);
	}
	else if ( pid > 0 )
	{
		if ( waitpid( pid, &status, 0) != pid )
		{
			perror( "wait" );
			exit(1);
		}
 
		printf("status of child was %d\n", (status >> 8) & 0xff );
	}
	else
	{
		perror( "fork");
		exit(1);
	}

Alas, stty runs ok, but the tty modes stay the same :-(

1) Why doesn't this work ?

2) Can anybody think of a better way that avoids parsing a file and 
calling ioctl()?

James Burgess. 
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From: person@plains.NoDak.edu (Brett G Person )
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,alt.cobol,alt.folklore.computers,alt.religion.computers,comp.lang.pascal
Subject: Re: net.views - mainframe programmers in an open systems world
Date: 18 Nov 92 09:49:03 GMT
Article-I.D.: ns1.BxwoLr.JDs
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <1992Nov15.192940.10559@ifi.uio.no> frankj@ifi.uio.no writes:


>OK, then.  Has anyone ever researched in how much time is wasted
>reading/posting news compared to what is gained from it?
>


Hey!  I've been looking for a research topic.  Thanks! 
:-) :-) 
Maybe companies need to start adopting news reading policies. 
-Brett

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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: georges@zeus.franklin.edu (Steven Lon George)
Subject: MPE, NS, TCP/IP
Organization: Franklin University
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 17:53:29 GMT

Hello there.  What I am wondering relates to the HP UNIX environment.

I am applying for a job under this environment, in a networking
application. The job has some criteria that I am not sure what it means.
I am hoping I can find someone who does. Anyway, the line reads as
follows.?

Must have knowledge of MPE, NS, TCP/IP & Network Components and
Architecture.

What is MPE (Multiplatorm Environment?), and NS.  Has anyone ever heard
these acronyms before.  The interview is on Thursday, so you can answer
by mail at 'georges@zeus.franklin.edu'.  Please notice the plural 
georges with an s.  otherwise, someone else will get the message.

Thanks in advance.

Steve....
From: ndl@unix.brighton.ac.uk ( The Unix Guru)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Help!  Can't run a file under tcsh!
Date: 23 Nov 92 13:29:59 GMT
Organization: University of Brighton, UK

usually that means that you are trying to run a bourne shell script
under tcsh !!!

try puting a : (on a line of its own) on the first line of the script that wont 
run and that will make the bourne shell execute it.

Nathan.
From: ray@Celestial.COM (Ray Jones)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Unix spreadsheets???
Date: 22 Nov 92 22:48:08 GMT
Article-I.D.: Celestia.1992Nov22.224808.21869
Organization: Celestial Software, Mercer Island, WA

In <1992Nov20.211312.22207@tom.rz.uni-passau.de> meisl@forwiss.uni-passau.de (Wolfgang Meisl) writes:

>Hi folks,
>does anyone know spreadsheets available under UNIX. 
>PD-programs (prefered) or commerical versions?
Look for a PD-program, "sc" (spreadsheet calculator).  Works well,
interfaces with other unix programs, and uses "vi" cursor commands.
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From: mjo@slee01.srl.ford.com (Mike O'Connor)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions,gnu.emacs.help
Subject: Re: tcsh-like subroutine
Date: 18 Nov 1992 00:14:47 GMT
Organization: Not an official spokesperson for Ford Motor Co.
Reply-To: "Mike O'Connor" <mjo@fmsrl7.srl.ford.com>
NNTP-Posting-Host: slee01.srl.ford.com

In article <BxtGt9.FDq@newcastle.ac.uk> Karl.Glazebrook@durham.ac.uk writes:

:I'm looking for a tcsh like input routine which would be callable from a C or
:FORTRAN program. I just want to be able to read a line of text from the user
:with tcsh-like (or emacs-like!) command line editing/recall features.

You need the GNU readline library or a clone of the GNU readline
library.  The GNU stuff is FTPable at prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu...

						...Mike

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From: maupb@csv.warwick.ac.uk (Mr J L Saunders)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: How do I get a particualr line of a file?
Date: 23 Nov 92 02:36:33 GMT
Organization: Computing Services, University of Warwick, UK
NNTP-Posting-Host: violet.csv.warwick.ac.uk

In article <1992Nov22.235943.13501@umbc3.umbc.edu> rouben@math9.math.umbc.edu (Rouben Rostamian) writes:

%To print line 30:
%sed -n 30p filename
%
%To print lines 30 to 35:
%sed -n 30,35p filename
%
%--
%Rouben Rostamian

Yep! I should have thought of sed before resorting to awk!

For tcsh and csh users, to make life even simpler do:
alias fline "sed -n \!:1p \!:2"

and then to get line 7 of file foo, type:
fline 7 foo

and to get lines 30 to 35 type:
file 7,35 foo

Cheers,
Jason
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: rahardj@ccu.umanitoba.ca (Budi Rahardjo)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD? (long)
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 20:06:10 GMT

lytras@avalon.physik.unizh.ch (Apostolos Lytras) writes:

...
>Or take some table editing programs (spreadsheets), that offer macros:

>Excel:  well.... $500?
>Perl:              $0

add
sc (or xspread)    $0

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From: grjost@uts.amdahl.com (Garrett Jost)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD
Date: 24 Nov 92 04:54:03 GMT
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

papresco@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod) writes:

>You are right, Word can not do EVERYTHING Emacs can do, becuase Emacs
>is an operating system.                                 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Hey, I'll have to remember that one!  A jewel of a quote!

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  employer. ]
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: buboo@alf.uib.no (Ove Ruben R Olsen)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD
Organization: University of Bergen, Norway
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 92 10:23:41 GMT

Paul Prescod writes:
>Word for windows can do anything that WordPerfect, VI or Emacs can do,
>and yet the interface is crystal clear and easy.

Can it solve the Tower of Hanoi problem ?
Can it solve a maze ?
Can it "be" a turing machine ?

and yet the interface is crystal clear (consistent) and easy (key codes
to remember).

\Ruben.
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     it comes to editing - But I do belive this is a general rule in life
From: mbarkah@slate.mines.colorado.edu (Ade Barkah)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: WHAT IS UNIX? (The Answer To...)
Keywords: unix, religion
Date: 20 Nov 92 18:57:04 GMT
Organization: Colorado School of Mines

ioi@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu (Ioi Kim Lam) writes:
: 
: Unix is not VI, EMACS or C-SHELL  (yup)
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: Unix is not a toy for the computer scientists (true)
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: Unix does not have to appear as a complicated system (good)
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: Unix is not a static object (absolutely right)
: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
: ---->> Unix is not immortal <<---- (I disagree with)
:        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

With all the _nots_ up there, I'll tell you what Unix is:
Unix is a _religion_. Unix is a _way_of_life_. Many
programmers would rather die than programming in something
other than Unix. By definition, there is _nothing_ better
than Unix ! If there _is_ something better, then, by
definition, it's just an extension of Unix, but still
Unix.

So, like any religion, lets treat it that way. People
may disagree, BUT PLEASE respect it. 

Some analogies: people often confuse the _celebration_
(i.e., commercialization) of Christmas with Christianity.
So some would flame Christmas, and blame Christianity for
it. Well, some people often confuse _vi_ (i.e., application)
with Unix. So some would flame _vi_, and blame Unix
for it.

Now, the 'IS UNIX DEAD' thread is getting way too long.
People nowadays just don't have respect for others's
religion anymore. I'm getting sick of going into the
Unix newsgroups and read n-hundred-articles trying to
figure out if Unix is dead. UNIX CAN'T DIE. Period.

I'd suggest people eager to follow up to the 'IS UNIX
DEAD' thread get together and make another newsgroup,
like, alt.unix.may.be.dead, or, better yet, 
alt.religion.unix.heretics. Post there instead.
Don't spread the blashphemy in comp. hierarchy.


May Unix save your soul,


-Ade Barkah-
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: spp@beach.cis.ufl.edu (Stephen P. Potter)
Subject: Re: grep
Organization: Univ. of Florida CIS Dept.
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 92 00:48:58 GMT

In article <13585@hq.hq.af.mil> lpeters@marge.hq.af.mil writes:
>
>|> >Actually it's Global Regular Expression Parser.
>|> I thought it meant Gorns Rarely Eat People...
>Grazing Rabbits Excrete Pellets
Get Real Expensive Printouts
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From: ssanbeg@visual.spk.wa.us (Scott Sanbeg)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Absurd! (Re: IS UNIX DEAD)
Date: 19 Nov 92 07:51:17 GMT
Organization: The Visual Market - Spokane, WA

In article <Bxvu0w.BwD@research.canon.oz.au> luke@research.canon.oz.au (Luke Kendall) writes:
>This `is Unix dead' is one of the most stupid subjects I have ever seen
>discussed.

Agreed. From my own perspective UNIX was designed with elegance built
in that has survived to this day - neophtes to the OS haven't changed
that opinion. Is would be easiest to manage if the thread, though, stay
under the '..UNIX DEAD' Subject line for a single kill file entry.
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Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD? (long)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 08:31:37 GMT

>In any given environment it's best if all users have the same keystroke
>sequences so that any person in that area can help another and on some
>terminals you have to take what you get.    
>
I agree 100%.  Unfortunately it's too late for that.  Some keyboards
don't have F1 keys, and some don't have help keys.  Given that this is
the case, perhaps we should (as someone suggested) make it some form
of environment variable, or terminal option.  Computers with help
keys could use that, and those with F1 keys could use those.  The only
problem is this would require a major revision of unix and it's
programs.

But this is part of "growing up" as an operating system and 
encompassing a wider range of users then the small niche unix has
now.


Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: papresco@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 23:03:38 GMT

>>Word for windows can do anything that WordPerfect, VI or Emacs can do,
>>and yet the interface is crystal clear and easy.
>
>Can it solve the Tower of Hanoi problem ?

Yes.

>Can it solve a maze ?

Yes.

>Can it "be" a turing machine ?

Yes.

Word has a turing complete language built in.  If you wanted to build
an operating system in it, you could, although I wouldn't vouch for
it's performance...OTOH, it couldn't be much slower then windows
itself...

>(Say NO to Mouseing around)

Whose forcing you to mouse around?  VI and Word can happily coexist on
the same computer.  Indeed, Word could have a VI mode if you really
wanted it to.


Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
From: papresco@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul Prescod)
Subject: Re: IS UNIX DEAD (long)
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 01:50:24 GMT

>
> It isn't a question of preservation of case sensetivity; it is a
>question of teaching the kernel about case insensetivity. Right now,
>the kernel doesn't know anything about the character set you (or
>anyone else on the system) is using; all it knows about are two
>special 8-bit blobs, one for 'end of filepath' and another for
>'filepath sepperator'. If you teach it about case insensetivity,
>it is now working in whatever character set you chose, and people
>who wish to use it with other ones are out of luck.

Am I to understand that unix file management is in the "kernel" and can
not be intercepted before and after kernel operations?  Even DOS seperates
the file system and kernel enough that you can use stacker or something
between the files system and the kernel.
From: ioi@pixmap.seas.upenn.edu (Ioi Kim Lam)
Newsgroups: comp.unix.questions
Subject: Re: Suggestion for New Unix newsgroup
Date: 22 Nov 92 20:32:49 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <34212@adm.brl.mil> GC921111%PACEVM.bitnet@cunyvm.cuny.edu ( MANI) writes:
>How about having a comp.unix.dead group to discuss
>*IS UNIX DEAD* and other such hopeless user lamentations?
>PLEASE!!! We have had enough bandwidth about this dumb nitpicking
>on Unix and other OS..


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