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From: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com (Joe Whittemore)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Rod cases
Date: 17 Aug 92 01:39:01 GMT
Reply-To: jdw@sniff.wfo.dec.com.UUCP (Joe Whittemore)
Organization: LES Engineering in Westfield, Ma.

In article <92Aug14.215538.16875@acs.ucalgary.ca> powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland) writes:
>
>During my trip to the Yukon this summer, my Plano rod case was
>wrecked by the airline. The end of my 7' one piece muskie rod
>inside the case was also snapped off (imagine my delight when I
>discovered it). I have since been compensated by the airline.
                           .
			   .
			   .
>question: Where can I buy a better rod case?
>
>I noticed one guy in the group of Americans who came in on the
>float plane after us had a white plastic rod case that looked
>like it take a small A-bomb. He was from the Chicago area. Any
>idea where he got it? Where I could order one?


    STOP! Look no further than the corner hardware store! I JUST built two
    rod cases for a total cost of UNDER TEN DOLLARS!

    Get a length of PVC tubing of sufficient INSIDE DIAMETER to accomodate
    your rod AND THE LARGEST GUIDE (2" or 3" etc.) and a pair of end caps
    for each tube you intend to build. Cut the tube to length and GLUE an
    end cap to one end. The rod is loaded into a cloth wrap or case and then
    inserted into the tube. For "one shot" transport you can then SECURLY
    tape the second end cap to the open end of the tube and send it on it's
    way. I used "Shock Cord" (Bungie cord), and a 3" hose clamp to make
    my end cap removable/replacable. You may be able to buy threaded end PVC
    and threaded end caps at a plumbing supply house. These tubes won't
    hold up to a fork truck but I can jump on mine without dammaging the rod
    inside. For commersial transportations where you will not be handeling
    your own case it's a good idea to pack the tube with cloth or paper to
    fill the voids and prevent dammage to the rod from banging around INSIDe
    the case.....
--
Joe Whittemore - From where the Westfield
                      Meets the Westfield
                         By the Westfield
                            In Huntington (MA)

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From: hayes@valkris.aero.org (Brian Hayes 74-35 x65129)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Cooking The Catch--Rocky Mountain Whitefish
Date: 14 Aug 92 17:23:59 GMT
Organization: Hughes Aircraft Company, EDSG

In article <92Aug14.014415.25760@acs.ucalgary.ca> parr@acs.ucalgary.ca (Charles Parr) writes:
>Every year I catch 3-4 nicesized whitefish whilst fishing for
>Browns on the Bow river. I always let them go, because I have
>no idea how to cook them.

Are these the same "white fish" (aka "sqauw fish") that eat their weight
in trout each day????  When I catch these on the Kern, they usually get
a flying lesson and spend the rest of their existance as fertilizer.

Brian


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From: rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor)
Subject: Re: Fishin' Extravagance
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 20:04:27 GMT

plh@eos.ncsu.edu (Pat L. Heron) writes:

>In article <Bsw2w7.CIt@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor) writes:
>|> 	Since you brought it up:
>|> 	How about a Starcraft 14' runabout with a 50 HP Chrysler for $295?
>|> 	That's almost giving it away since the new lower unit and tuneup 
>|> 	cost more than that.  The (water sking) kids are gone and like
>|> 	I said, I can catch more from shore near home so I don't need it.

>Roger, where is uiuc?  Sounds far from Raleigh NC. (Iowa???).

>		-Pat.
My email response bounced.  Univ. of ILLINOIS, Urbana, IL 
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From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland)
Subject: Re: Rod cases
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 92 18:22:40 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta


Thanks to all who replied. My next rod case is going to come from
the plumbing shop - 5"7' PVC pipe, painted dayglo yellow, with
the words 'My other rod case is a Plano' written on the side.
From: trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Landing fish
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:17:14 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <14022@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>
>Just an idea, but I've found that locking hemostats work good for grabbing
>the hook of a fish that you want to release.  Just reach down and grab the
>hook and the hemostat will stay locked on the hook until you pull it out.
>A little twist and the fish is free.  Just dont let go of the hemostats.

Right.  I see no need to handle the fish at all.


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-Wayne Trzyna
 trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU
From: trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Tipping your guide
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:32:49 GMT
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department

In article <Bswp06.L2p@news.cso.uiuc.edu> kenf@siksika.slip.uiuc.edu (Ken Fortenberry) writes:
>
>Next day, thinking to be a "nice guy", I call back to George Anderson's
>to say don't bother sending the brochure, I've hired Robin Cunningham.

I've learned never to do this sort of thing.  It is actually better for
everybody if you don't.  To your benefit, when their brochure arrives you
get additional tips on what to bring, what hatches when, etc.  To their
benefit, their brochure might even convnince you to hire them in the future.

-- 

-Wayne Trzyna
 trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU
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From: ketchum@cs.montana.edu (Steve White)
Subject: Re: Tipping your guide
Organization: Dept. of Computer Science, MSU, Bozeman Mt 59717
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:20:14 GMT

In article <Aug13.151239.46893@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna) writes:
>In article <Bsw2Ez.Ay3@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> rtaylor@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Roger Taylor) writes:
>>
>>	Maybe I've missed something, but if I am paying the guide/captain
>>	directly (as opposed to going through a resort) to do his best
>>	why should I pay him again/extra? 
>
>Worse yet, I'll try to haggle him down on the fee!
>
>-- 
>
>-Wayne Trzyna
> trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU

I thought that your name sounded familiar. Didn't I guide you (you miser) on
the Madison one day? :-)
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From: bc@col.hp.com (Bryan Call)
Subject: Re: re : rod cases
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 19:14:36 GMT
Organization: HP Colorado Springs Division

bdowning@unixland.natick.ma.us (Bill Downing) writes:
> 
> For those who're too lazy to build their own, I've found the biggest
> Plano tube (with carrying handle) to be just fine. It also telescopes
> to fit any larger rods that you may buy later. It's survived two trips
> to Alaska, one trip to New Zealand, one trip to British Columbia, and
> one trip to Nova Scotia/Newfoundland without a problem. Maybe I'm just
> lucky :-)
> 
If you went along with your rod case on all of those trips, damn right
you'r lucky. :-) What kind of business are you in anyway?

Bryan

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From: cower@csli.stanford.edu (Richard Cower)
Subject: Re: fishing with cheese
Organization: CSLI, Stanford University
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 1992 18:15:09 GMT


I keep my cheese on with a small cracker. Spread the cheese
on the cracker, and it'll stay there. Cast (that is what you call it,
isn't it?) your hook out, and throw the cracker after it. When you get
good, you can skip the cracker on the water.. Remember: Presentation is
100% of the fishing game. If you present your cheese in a natural
setting (a kitchen setting works well)...you will catch more fish. The
real advantage is - you folks can just FISH AT HOME, in your kitchens.

Being a fly fishing person, I have some questions about this fishing with
food thing:

1. Does imported cheese seem to attract a "better" fish?

2. Are dairy products the only food types you use for fishing? Have you 
steak? carrots? eggs? ham? salad stuff? What works?

3. How did you come about to fish with food? Were you out one day, and
ran out of worms and tried using your lunch? Is this something your parents 
did? (it might be possible that this family values thing the politicians keep 
talking about might be a real issue, assuming people are teaching their kids 
to fish with cheese...).

4. Given that you can apparently can use food for bait, have you
tried using other things? tvs? tires? shoes? sofas? small kitchen
appliances? I've seen all of these in the water, is it possible one of
you hooked a big one...and it got off - depositing the bait you were
using in the water? (I always wondered how this shit got into the water). 

...rich
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From: powlesla@acs.ucalgary.ca (Jim B. Powlesland)
Subject: Rod cases
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 21:55:38 GMT
Organization: The University of Calgary, Alberta


During my trip to the Yukon this summer, my Plano rod case was
wrecked by the airline. The end of my 7' one piece muskie rod
inside the case was also snapped off (imagine my delight when I
discovered it). I have since been compensated by the airline.

In any case, after seeing how well this supposedly high-quality
case held up to the baggage compartment, I have the following
question: Where can I buy a better rod case?

I noticed one guy in the group of Americans who came in on the
float plane after us had a white plastic rod case that looked
like it take a small A-bomb. He was from the Chicago area. Any
idea where he got it? Where I could order one?


Xref: sparky rec.outdoors.fishing:167 alt.fishing:2913
From: niel@goodyear.Sun.COM (Niel W. Hanes)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing,alt.fishing
Subject: Lexington Res.
Followup-To: poster
Date: 12 Aug 1992 21:06:56 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems Inc., Mountain View, CA
Distribution: ba
NNTP-Posting-Host: goodyear.corp.sun.com
Keywords: Any water/fish left?

Hello,

Sorry for the cross post to alt.fishing but there are still 
people complaining that their sight is not yet receiving
r.o.f. and I want to make sure this has it's best chance of
being answered.

A couple of weeks ago a fellow Bay Area fisherman posted a 
report that he was nailing bass at Lexington Res.  I would
like to know if there is still water and fish in the reservoir
as I now have time to get out there and take a shot at those
bass myself!

Thanks,
Niel
From: thompson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu (T. Scott Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Surf Rod Casting Distance?
Date: 17 Aug 92 21:39:00 GMT
Reply-To: thompson@atlas.socsci.umn.edu
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Minnesota

ajg@seas.gwu.edu (Alan Goldschen) writes:

>Fishers:

>I just came back from a fantastic trip at the Outer Banks, North Carolina.
>My wife (a very serious FisherPerson) and I caught a variety of fish:
>Blues, Spanish Mackeral, Flounder, Spot, Croaker, Trigger Fish, Blow Fish
>(Butterfly), Sand Shark, Cobia, and Lizard Fish.

>I have a question about getting the maximum casting distance with a surf
>rod.  We used a 9' heavy action rod, 8' light action rod and 8' medium
>action rod.  I noticed that I was able to cast farther with the 9' heavy
>action rod.  In fact, I caught the Blues and Spanish Mackerel only with
>that rod.  No luck on the 8' rods.

>My wife could not get any rod out there to catch a mackeral or blues.  The
>question I have, and I need to keep my wife happy if I want to go back
>again, is what type of rod should I get her?  Some locals said that I
>should get a 10' or 11' medium action rod.

I grew up spending 1-2 weeks at Hatteras every summer (starting in 1956)
and I can tell you that the gear that people use there has changed
quite a bit over that time.  People used to use bait-casting reels
and heavy poles.  Now you mostly see spinning reels of every shape
and description (not counting the "Shark Hunters").

Personally, I don't think that the gear makes that much of a
difference at Hatteras (in midsummer anyway).  I have caught blues and
mackerel 10 yds from shore on many occasions there.  There were
sometimes occasions when the fish were just out of reach of most of
the fishermen/women there, but a certain few were able to cast out to
them.  My impression is that the lucky few had more or less the same
equipment as everyone else, but much better technique.

Rather than buy new gear after only one trip, I would try again and
_practice_.

For what it's worth, my gradparents, who lived there for 18 years
tended to use longer than average poles, usually pretty stiff ones.
Their poles had a good bit of the additional length _below_ the reel,
which gives improved leverage when snapping the tip.

The real key is being in the right place at the right time.  Get out
to the Point at Buxton at sunrise or sunset.  Even if you don't catch
any fish, sunrise at the Point will make your day!
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From: lgolder@hoh.mbl.edu (Robert Golder)
Subject: Re: Bluegill, Sunnies, Pumkinseeds, etc.
Organization: Marine Biological Laboratory
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 92 17:19:46 GMT

In article <920821072902@joker.ftp.com>, rodin@vax.ftp.com  (Jon Rodin) writes:
> 
> wesm@mbunix.mitre.org (Miller) writes:
> >         Since the topic has been brought up, how many types of bluegill, 
> > etc are there? I know when I catch 'em....and they seem to attack 
> > anything around here, some have redish bellies, some orange, some white...
> > None of my fishing books goes into any differences. Are they all the same 
> > species or what?
> 
> Paraphrased from the Audubon Society Field Guide:
>(species ID info deleted)

Species identification among the sunfishes is complicated by their
tendency to hybridize.  To quote from the chapter on bluegills
in Freshwater Fishes of Canada (1979) by W.B. Scott and E.J. Crossman:

"This species is known to hybridize with the longear, orangespotted,
green, redbreast, redear, and pumpkinseed sunfishes, and the
warmouth.  In many cases the hybrids are fertile and able to mate
with both parents and with hybrids...  The degree of hybridization is
so great and the range of characters so confusing as to make it almost
impossible to separate hybrids from backcrosses with parental species,
or even to designate pure parental forms."

On Cape Cod there are ponds with good populations of bluegills and
pumpkinseeds.  The fish readily hybridize, and I see all sorts of color 
and pattern variations in the fish I catch.  Color also intensifies in
male fish during the breeding season.  So enjoy doing species ID's on
sunfish, but don't worry too much when you catch a fish that
doesn't seem to match the descriptions in your guide book.

Bob
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From: andrewb@lazy.demon.co.uk (Andrew Brown)
Distribution: world
Subject: Re: Slough Creek and Nets
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In article <1992Aug18.225252.378@coe.montana.edu> starkey@cs.montana.edu (Denbigh Starkey) writes:

> 
> Before going to the park I bought a Brodin net holder to finally replace
> the bungee cord that I've always used on the back of my vest.  These things
> are great.  The net is attached with handle down, and it just pulls out
> with a jerk on the handle when you want to land a fish.  No problems in brush,
> stays out of your way, no stretching out elastic when trying to reach a big
> fish, etc.  Great value.
> 
Presumably these Brodin things only work with "Tennis Racket" type wading
nets. I find it is worth the hassle to carry only one net around with me: a
large, metal-framed job with a telescopic handle that extends to about 5ive
feet. The whole thing clips to the D-ring that hangs from the back of the
neck of my vest. But then I don't creep through brush much. It is very easy
to get out in a hurry.

I need only shut my eyes to see that meadow on Slough Creek, with rain
sweeping across it, three years ago. We caught fish on black beetles there,
too, but they were around #12 or #14.


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From: trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU (wayne trzyna)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: MLT / Sun Country Airlines
Date: 14 Aug 92 19:20:41 GMT
Article-I.D.: yuma.Aug14.192041.70253
Organization: Colorado State University, Computer Science Department


AARRGGHH!

Has anybody flown with MLT Vacations/Sun Country Airlines this year
to Anchorage, AK?  If so I've got some questions about their bagage
restrictions.

Much to my chagrin I've discoverd, just two days before departure,
that they've radically changed their bagage regulations, and they
now only allow a TOTAL of 68lbs of checked bagage, LESS THAN HALF
WHAT ANY ORDINARY AIRLINE ALLOWS.  They also have some ridiculous
size restrictions.  Since I don't relish missing my non-refundable
connecting flights or spending days at the Anchorage airport
waiting for my gear to be shipped via some alternative means,
I'd like to get a feeling for how hard-core they are about enforcing
these restrictions.  The party line is they will not accept the
baggage, period.

If you have any first hand experience with this, please let me
know.  After some research I've discovered the new restrictions are
due to using smaller planes this year (727's) so I need information
from this year.  (Previous years they were pretty loose about enforcement.) 

Please reply via e-mail as I haven't time to keep up reading these
newsgroups right now.

BE FOREWARNED IF YOU PLAN TO FLY MLT:  They did not mention anything
about the severe restrictions until the last minute, after it was
too late to get an advance purchase ticket from a different airline.
Their baggage size and weight restrictions are ridiculously severe,
and it looks like it is going to end up costing me (net) more money than
a normal airline would have charged, and considerably more trouble.

I will never fly MLT again.


-- 

-Wayne Trzyna
 trzyna@CS.ColoState.EDU


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-Wayne Trzyna
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From: bcking@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Christine King)
Subject: Setting the Hook
Reply-To: bcking@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Christine King)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 16:27:59 GMT

Okay, I'll throw myself on your mercies: I'm a novice.  I've caught a
few fish over the years, mostly sunnies or trout on bait.  I have a
Really Basic Question:

  How, exactly, do I "set the hook"?

I mean, I hate it when I pull in an undersized trout who has swallowed
my hook.  I'd much rather just ease it out of his jaw and send him on
his way.  Is there something I can learn to do, to hook him there
rather than let him swallow the whole thing down to his ankles?

-- 
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From: ash@ulysses.mr.ams.com (Alan Harder)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Re: Bream (bluegill) eating
Date: 19 Aug 92 13:50:01 GMT
Organization: American Math. Society

In article <1992Aug18.191841.6717@mcnc.org> kevins@mcnc.org (Kevin Siefering) writes:

   >	If you are throwing back the bluegill you are missing just about
   >the best freshwater eating fish you can catch.  Only walleye come close
   >in my book.  My wife would be terribly upset with me if I caught a 

But lake perch are even better than walleye, and definitely better
than sunfish or bluegills, IMHO.  Bass aren't even in my top ten of
good-eating fish.

   >mess of bluegill and threw them back.  By the way . . . In Iowa they
   >were bluegill.  In Minnesota they were sunfish, or more commonly
   >"sunnies".  Here in North Carolina they are bream (pronounced "brim"
   >here).  Whatever they are called, they are good eating.

Actually, bluegills are members of the sunfish family, as are redear
sunfish, pumpkinseed sunfish, black and white crappie, and largemouth
and smallmouth black bass.  If the Iowans and Minnesotans were calling
the same fish two different names, one of them was wrong.  It's also
possible that you were catching two different fish, since sunfish and
bluegills do look very much alike.
From: markh@sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu (Mark Hurwitz)
Newsgroups: rec.outdoors.fishing
Subject: Advice Sought: Fishing Near Ashland, Oregon
Date: 21 Aug 92 22:04:27 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Space Science Labs
NNTP-Posting-Host: sag4.ssl.berkeley.edu


	My buddy Tim and I will be up in Ashland, OR for a few days
in early September.  I am familiar with some N. Cal fishing areas
(L. Shasta, Trinity R.) but these are all several hours from Ashland.
Any net-wisdom for fishing closer to Ashland?  What will an out-of-state
Oregon license cost us?

Thanks in advance,
Mark
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From: jmc@emba-news.uvm.edu.UUCP (John Connors)
Subject: Re: Panfish? (Was: Re: Keeping cheese on a fish hook?)
Originator: jmc@newton.emba.uvm.edu
Organization: University of Vermont -- Division of EMBA Computer Facility
Distribution: rec
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1992 15:01:14 GMT

From article <1992Aug19.172926.20430@cbnewsl.cb.att.com>, by spf@cbnewsl.cb.att.com (Steve Frysinger of Blue Feather Farm):

> WHAT?!?!?!?!?   Friend, you've been missing something.  Bluegill, punkinseeds,
> sunnies - ALL delicious.  If they're 6" or over, I fillet them, but you can
> scale them and fry them breaded.  When the kids insist on keeping the little
> guys, I just poach them whole in boiling water for about 20 seconds, then use
> a fork to flake off the meat.
> 
> Believe me, it's good food.

Poaching?....I wonder....There was a decent looking recipe for fish cakes
in InFisherman Magazine this year.  I wonder if this technique might
prove useful in providing the white fish flesh easily.

Any ideas?

JC in VT  (Not to be confused with the famous flycaster in Maine: jc in me)

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