HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: How to avoid panslavism and toilets in Finland
Date: 15 Dec 1992 20:09:35 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: locusts.berkeley.edu

In article <linnan.724427895@snakemail.hut.fi> linnan@lk-hp-17.hut.fi (Matti J Linnanvuori) writes:
>In <1992Dec14.054554.16357@polaris.utu.fi> Olli-Jukka Paloneva <opaloneva@abo.fi> writes:
>>- Olli-Jukka Paloneva - (Oleg Olavovitsh Bolotov)
>>	opaloneva@abo.fi
>
>  I just wanted to know, if any Russian had asked about the origin of
>your feminine sounding last name. 
>
>

I think Olli is a hermaphrodite. What do netters think in this case?

Inquiring minds want to know.

Shura the High Priest of Green Snake.








  
-- 
These fits of depression are torturing me
The lives that I seen won't breath again
A sad child of madness, they will never be free
Born again to die, the agonies begin...
		 -W.A.S.P. "The Heretic."

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: dlv@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu (Dimitri Vulis, CUNY GC Math)
Subject: Re: How to map russian character set to a transliterated one ?
Reply-To: dlv@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu
Organization: Computer Center, CUNY Graduate School, New York NY 10036
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 05:00:57 GMT

In article <1992Nov30.102439@is.morgan.com>, berlin@is.morgan.com (Alexander Berlin) writes:
>In article <1992Nov30.013441.9956@timessqr.gc.cuny.edu>, dlv@cunyvms1.gc.cuny.edu (Dimitri Vulis, CUNY GC Math) writes:
>|> Perhaps Oleg should correct his resume.
>Don't forget, Oleg, before you apply for a job at BBS.
Well, most BBS's are simple to run and don't require employees, but maybe
Oleg should come clean if he wants to keep his present job.  After all,
wouldn't be just like IBM to sack a guy just for having fibbed on his resume,
even if they're happy with his work?  And wouldn't it be just like Oleg to
blame it later on IBM's "anti-Semitism"? :)

Dimitri Vulis
CUNY GC Math
DLV@CUNYVMS1.BITNET DLV@CUNYVMS1.GC.CUNY.EDU

Disclaimer: my Usenet postings don't necessarily represent anyone's views,
especially my own and/or CUNY's.
From: mam18@jaguar.uofs.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Estonian Russian-speakers
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:56:12 GMT
Organization: University of Scranton

In article <01GS3YVEHL9C8Y53RK@MPS.OHIO-STATE.EDU>, VIZNYUK@MPS.OHIO-STATE.EDU (SERGEI VIZNYUK) writes:
>  [...stuff deleted...]
> 
> Best regards,
> Serega & Co
> 
> P.S. Vmesto togo, chtoby pizdet' kak Trotsky, sam-by poproboval...

Eto uzh tochto, chto kuda kak luchshe pizdit' kak Leonid Il'ich :"Vot u nikh
tam tak huevo, a u nas v Rossii tak khorosho, chto ia sebe po etomu povodu
eshcho zvezdochku poveshu..."

Kak govoritsia: "Necha na zerkalo peniat'..."

Respectfully, 
Michael Martynov.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: alexei@cartan.math.nd.edu (Alex Strouwe)
Subject: RELAX - Vovochka
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 05:42:53 GMT

==================

Uchitel'nitsa pokazyvaet detyam portret Karla Marksa i sprashivaet:
   -- Deti, a vy znaete, kto eto?
Vovochka podnimaet ruku:
   -- Eto nash dvornik dyadya Vasya.
   -- Net, Vovochka! Eto - Karl Marks.
   -- Net, eto dyadya Vasya.
Oni dolgo sporili. Nakonets Vovochka predlozhil Mar'e Ivanovne spustit'sya
vo dvor i ubedit'sya svoimi glazami. Vyshla Mar'ia Ivanovna vo dvor i vidit -
sidit na stupen'kah, nu priamo vylityi Karl Marks. Nekotoroe vremya ona 
stoiala v izumlenii, a zatem reshilas' nachat' razgovor:
   -- Zdravstvuite, Vasilii Petrovich!
   -- Zdravstvuite!
   -- A Vy znaete, chto Vy ochen' pohozhi na Karla Marksa?
   -- Da. Znayu. Vse mne ob etom govoryat...
   -- Nu, Vy by hot' borodu sbreli...
   -- Da borodu-to ia, koneshno, mogu sbrit', 
      a vot umische kuda devat'???
================== 
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: LANDSBERG@sbhep2.phy.sunysb.edu (Greg Landsberg)
Subject: Re: 8-(
Organization: SUNY at Stony Brook
Date: Sun, 20 Dec 1992 03:56:25 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.20

In <1992Dec19.235522.10075@cbnewsi.cb.att.com> sasha@cbnewsi.cb.att.com writes:

> Saturday evening. Spleen. Folks, it may be ill-mannered but I'm going
> to spill it over. Pojekhali ...
> 
> 
> 	Epigraph: who can say why today tomorrow will be yesterday?
> 
> "Vot ya vnov' posetil ..."
> A khotielos' - nievprokhmiel' - vernut'sia.
> V tu zhe rieku stupil,
> Chob s toboj i s soboj razminut'sia.
> Razbivaja liedok nojabria
> Na povierknosti Liety,
> Oskol'zajus'. Soznan'ie drobia,
> Ukhozhu ot otvieta.
> 
> 
> I nie tsariev ukaz
> Iz impierii vyslal kurilku,
> No raskos jeja glaz
> Mieru vysshuju - viechnuju ssylku
> Propisal svistunu,
> Pustomielie, gieroju, izgoju.
> Zatvoritie stranu!
> No ostav'tie okno nad Nievoju.
> 
> 
> Tak, davaj zhe, nal'jom
> My do kraju i vyp'jem do kapli.
> Za nash prizrachnyj dom,
> Za jego dierieviannye stavni,
> Za ampirnost' kolonn,
> Za dymok nad ubogoj truboju.
> Za preryvnost' vriemion,
> Za tiebia. I mienia ... nie s toboju.
> 
> 
> Copyright by Alexander Kostomaroff, observer of passing events.
> +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> Footnote: "vyshaja miera" upotriebliaetsia v priamom russko-litieraturnom
>           znachenii, a nie v sovokovo-ugolovnom.
> 

I'm sorry,  but ``v  russko-literaturnom  znachenii'' this  verse should be
named  ``plagiat.'' See  ``Vot ya  vnov'  posetil'' by Joseph  Brodsky. You
copied  too much  from  their,  starting with  first  line and  ending with
rhythmic pattern. Well, it could be unintentionally of course, but still...

Greg
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Subject: christmas
Reply-To: "robert winkler" <robert.winkler@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: soc
Date: 12 Dec 92 12:05:18 EST

Sorry for butting in, but...

    I believe the following info is correct, but if I'm mistaken, please
feel free to correct me.

    Jesus, according to estimates, was born somewhere around the end of
December - beginning of January by present day calendar. When
Christianity was adopted or elevated to the level of state-religion in
ancient Rome, the Romans were worshipping several deities from ancient
Persians to obscure far-eastern demons. They were used to tolerance &
the incorporation of foreign deities into their religious world.
Christianity demanded a break with this practice on monotheistic basis.
    The rulers, however, did not want to offend the followers of the
biggest cult, that of the ancient & traditional Jupiter mythology. As
Jupiter's day happened to fall on 24 December, they subsequently decided
to "merge" the two holidays by placing the celebration of the birth of
Jesus on Jupiter's day.
    The tradition of the pine-tree came from medieval Germany, where it
was part of the paganistic traditions.
    As for Santa Claus, I don't want to go into well known details about
the life of his "ancestor", the priest in Cyprus. What is interesting,
however, is that when the story of this priest - with the Byzantine
version of Christianity - spread in the areas known later as the Soviet
Union, it merged with the pagan traditions of shamanism. Shamans were
known to drink special drugs (according to some sources, these drugs
were fed to horses, & then the shamans drank the urine of these horses),
& then in a trance-like state drive their sledge over the snow-covered
tundra screaming & waiting for the message of the dead ancestors. That's
where the images of snow, sledge, and reindeer came from, becoming an
organic part of the Santa Claus story - quite revealing, especially if
we consider that Claus was living in the Mediterranian area.

Take care

Robert
--
Canada Remote Systems  - Toronto, Ontario
World's Largest PCBOARD System - 416-629-7000/629-7044
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: kr3@ph3hp840.physik.uni-stuttgart.de ()
Subject: re: Estonia
Organization: Physikalisches Institut, U of Stuttgart, Germany
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:00:18 GMT

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
From: ryyti@jyu.fi (Jarmo Ryyti)
Subject: Re: RUSSIANS and FINNISH patriots (Was: Estonia 15)
Organization: University of Jyvaskyla, Finland
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:30:47 GMT

thietaniemi@cc.helsinki.fi wrote:
: In article <12054@sorley.ed.ac.uk>, alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev) 
: writes:
: 
: I think I understand you. Memory is a good thing indeed, but not Pamyat,
: if they are the movement that's called patriots. We have other names
: for them :-)

You mean Memorial?
: > 
: > I would visit Finland, but I fear I might run into somebody like
: > Vorlund, who having identified me by my "Russian appearence" might
: > feel like celebrating again.

If you run a person like Vorlund he is probably a drunken person in Finland.
Mr. Vorlund certainly expresses certain sentiments certain finns have
but, please, do not generalize. Finland is quite a safe place to visit
for a russian person.  (Russia is not so easy for a finn, I am afraid...)
Your looks certainly does not differ from a finn.

And I mean that "looking like a finn" need not to be something worth of.
: 
: Actually, as a Finn visiting Russia, I have noticed that most of Finns
: resemble of Russians and I am asked in Russian where the railway station is
: and such a things. 
: 
Like me, when I was in Karelia I was asked the road to somewhere by people
who were not from there...first then they noticed I am not a local.
I use a very good fur cap, whihc I have bought once from a russian ship
between Gothenburg and London. It is durable.

: If there is some kind of "Russian appearance", it's the clothing 
: and behaviour of some Russians. If you walk in Helsinki in groups wearing 
: fur capes, speaking Russian, smoking Belomorkanal or something like it and 
: if the ladies use Krasnaya Moskva, you are relatively easy to 
: regocnize to any Finn. :-) :-)
: 
Like in Jyvaskyla. There is a huge, in our circumstances, canal construction
work going on since some years, where there are 530 russians working.
Very decent people I would say. They save money, buy cars and do not fool
around like quite many finns do while visiting StPbrg (cheap vodka).
: 
And there are still to see monuments from the Old Russia in Helsinki,
which in Russia destroyed. (That is why some finns proposed bying
Lenin mausoleum too) 

The best way to Russia goes via Finland,
jarmo ryyti


Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
From: arto@leland.Stanford.EDU (Artavazd Khachikian)
Subject: Turkish Hebbels and his bad luck
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 02:37:37 GMT

	The virus of Mutlu/Argic is mutating. It is also 
infecting some of the netters, it appears. I want to congratulate Mark
Lipsits on occasion of his establishing close relationship with the
Turkish Propaganda Machine. I am happy that you guys are buddies and 
I hope that Argic will enjoy your company, Mark. You can even assist him
in collecting some of his materials.

	As for the Argic himself, him, who's name makes the whole newsgroups
tremble, him who's name is the Horror of the Armenians, the Nightmare
of the Greeks, who's name is the Undeniable, who's name is the Truthful, who's name is the King of the Quotes, let me tell you the following:

	In the past ONE YEAR that I am observing your activity, you have 
managed to brainwash ONE single person. If you tell this to your bosses
in Ankara, they will cut you funding.

	As for the rest of the netters, their disgust with your postings
is growing stronger and stronger. Argic, you are working to our advantage!
You are actually forcing people to open the books and find out what actually
happenned in 1915.

	Tell your bosses - your activity has diminishing returns,
it works to the favor of the opposite side. Tell them also that all their
money which they are paying you for working 24 hours a day indluding the 
week-ends and holidays is waisted.

	Tell them also, that even blackmailing the Armenian people with
the transportation routes, with supplies of grain and electricity, these
people who are having 200 grams of bread a day and are facing another harsh
winter, will go to the Memorial of the Armenian Genocide on April the 24
next year, even if faced with all the 500.000 of your soldiers on the frontier.

	I understand that it is hard for you to get it, but there are things
in history that you can not change by violence or bargain. 

	And by the way, the instruction from Ankara to mess up Armenian-Izraeli
relations is called off. Your buddies in Azerbaijan exaggerated a little bit
with Izraeli arms sales to Azerbaijan - all their reports were rejected
by Izraeli officials. So is every second report coming from Azerbaijani
information agencies. Like the father, like the son.

	So when your next instruction comes from Ankara, ask them whether
the word "Jews" in your postings can be changed to something else - this one
didn't work.

	I take enormous biological and philosophical pleasure in the fact
that people like you and your colleagues exist. This gives me uncredible
perspectives for understanding the essense of the most fundamental questions
of human life.
From: alpet@ocf.berkeley.edu (Alex Petrushko)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Umom ne
Date: 12 Dec 1992 03:56:35 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Open Computing Facility
NNTP-Posting-Host: maelstrom.berkeley.edu

In article <1992Dec12.022934.5986@polaris.utu.fi> Olli-Jukka Paloneva <opaloneva@abo.fi> writes:
>In article <11340@prijat.cs.uofs.edu> Michael A Martinov,
>mam18@sparrow.cs.uofs.edu writes:
>>
>Ha otvet:"Poshivjom - uvidem! Umom v Rossiju ne ponjat, arshinom obshim
>he ismerit..."
>And I am not true believer of it like F. Tjutjev.
>
>Bog c Bami pravoslavnye!
>
>- Olli-Jukka Paloneva -

Hey, Oily, do you like spelling flames? If no, then press "u," because
you misspelled Tutchev, YOU FUCKING IDIOT!!! (Pardon my French)

Ahh, that feels good -- now all the tension I have been accumulating
inside me is gone and I can return to my books, since finals are not
that far away :-)

Btw, I am not Christian -- I worship Green Snake. It is Russians-only
sect, so I am sorry but no, you cannot join it...

Porhauschii v nebesah na kryl'yah Zelenogo Zmiya,

Shura.


-- 
These fits of depression are torturing me
The lives that I seen won't breath again
A sad child of madness, they will never be free
Born again to die, the agonies begin...
		 -W.A.S.P. "The Heretic."
From: verbit@birkhoff.harvard.edu (Mikhail S. Verbitsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: RELAX: Evreyskii anekdot
Date: 15 Dec 92 05:02:35 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc3.1992Dec15.000236.18498
Organization: Sozialistische Patienten Kollektiv

In article <101663@netnews.upenn.edu> sergei@upenn5.hep.upenn.edu (Sergei Borodin) writes:
>In article <101641@netnews.upenn.edu> burshtey@two-step.seas.upenn.edu (Alexander Burshteyn) writes:

>>Nu, estestvenno, esli umeniye nazhimat' na pravil'nyye knopki schitat'
>>opredelyayushchim priznakom intelligentnogo cheloveka, to da, togda, konechno,
>>dolzhno byt' stydno i neudobno. A zato idiotskie fleimy posylat' po pustyashnym
>>povodam togda dolzhno byt', naoborot, sovsem ne stydno i ochen' udobno.
>>Chego tam, tol'ko pravil'nyye knopki nazhimay...

>  Nu, Vy, dorogoi moi, opjat' vlezli, ne znaja o chem rech'-to idet.
>  A idet ona o tom, chto chelovek, a imenno Mark Lipsits, nikak ne
>  mozhet nauchit'sja obraschat'sja s komputerom, a ot togo pripisyvaet
>  mne chuzhie slova. A pripisav ih mne, delaet duratskii vyvod o moem
>  chuvstve umora. Povod-to, vrode by v dannom sluchae i pustjashnyi, no
>  ja opasaus' kak by eto ne pereroslo v privychku. 

Pravil'no, Sergei! Lipshitsa pora kastrirovat', da i drugogo
vashego opponenta tozhe by ne hudo... No kakaya svoloch'
etot Lipshits! Posylaet po pyat' kopii odnoi mudatskoi
stat'i, a potom eshcho desyat' kopii s tsitatami 
bez edinoi svoei strochki. Zhalko chto Kornell ne v
Keimbridzhe, a to by ya etogo Lipshitsa sobstvennoruchno
kastriroval by. Idi mudak nahui k Agricam i ne pishi
v Usenet mudilo (eto k Lipshitsu).

Misha.
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From: iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Ivan A Derzhanski)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,soc.culture.europe,talk.politics.soviet
Subject: Re: Estonia
Date: 13 Dec 92 21:09:54 GMT
Organization: Centre for Cognitive Science, Edinburgh, UK

In article <Bz1zI4.D6B@cs.columbia.edu> igor@cs.columbia.edu (Igor Pankevich) writes:
<By the way, in the US some time ago there was a so called "literacy
<test" - you had to be able to read in order to be able to vote.

But you don't have to know how to spell "potato" in order to be
able to be vice-president.

<It was declared unconstitutional later.

Of course.  Literacy is not an American virtue.

<Not to say that Estonia has the same constitution as the USA,
<but the latter surely has the most democratic constitution.

Surely?  Where does that follow from?

<So whatever goes against American constitution, and thus
<would be illegal in the USA we here concider undemocratic.

Who is "we here"?

-- 
 `D'ye mind tellin me whit the two o ye are gaun oan aboot?' (The Glasgow
Ivan A Derzhanski  (iad@cogsci.ed.ac.uk; iad@chaos.cs.brandeis.edu)    Gospel)
* Centre for Cognitive Science,  2 Buccleuch Place,  Edinburgh EH8 9LW,  UK
* Cowan House, Pollock Halls, 18 Holyrood Park Road, Edinburgh EH16 5BD, UK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: alexei@cartan.math.nd.edu (Alex Strouwe)
Subject: RE: ANECDOTES: Shtirlits
Organization: University of Notre Dame
Date: Sun, 13 Dec 1992 03:10:23 GMT

======================
Odnazhdy, posle ocherednogo prazdnovania 23 fevralia,
Shtirlitz prosnulsia v turemnoi kamere. On dolgo ne mog vspomnit',
chto zhe bylo vchera, i pytalsia dogadat'sia, gde on nahodit'sia:
v Gestapo ili v NKVD?
"Chto zh, -- podumal on, - posmotrim, v kakoi forme budut liudi, 
kotorye budut menia doprashivat'? Esli v chernoi - ia v Gestapo
i dolzhen govorit' po-nemetski, esli v korichnevoi - ia u sebia doma
i nuzhno im skazat', chto ia svoi..."
Cherez nekotoroe vremya v kameru zahodyat ludi v serom i govoriat:

  -- I kak zhe vam ne stydno, napilis' vchera, tovarisch Tihonov,
a escho narodnyi artist.
=======================
From: ron@cs.tamu.edu (Ron J Theriault)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: "Drugs" threaten democracy in former Soviet Union
Date: 11 Dec 1992 23:05:40 GMT
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Texas A&M University
Distribution: usa
NNTP-Posting-Host: dsls4.cs.tamu.edu

In article <62635@mimsy.umd.edu>, tms@cs.umd.edu (Tom Swiss (not Swift, not Suiss, Swiss!)) writes:
|> vlad@erg.sri.com (vlad) writes:

|> ...
|>      Huh? The Democrats came out in favor of school choice - among
|> public schools - during the campain. ...

That's like having a choice of buying any car you want --
as long as it's a General Motors car.   Some choice.
-- 
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Xref: sparky soc.culture.soviet:11174 talk.politics.soviet:9774 soc.culture.europe:10524
From: muh@physics.Berkeley.EDU (Yury M. Mukharsky)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet,talk.politics.soviet,soc.culture.europe
Subject: Re: Political Freedom
Date: 17 Dec 1992 02:12:33 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: physics.berkeley.edu

In article <12109@sorley.ed.ac.uk> alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev) writes:
>
	Yury Mukharsky writes:
	In article <12049@kesson.ed.ac.uk> alexei@cogsci.ed.ac.uk (Alexei Moiseyev) writes:
	>>unacceptible.  In some countries populations elect their own goverments
	>>and in some they don't.  
	>May I ask why?
	[Some deleted]
	I hope this is illuminating.

Same question remains.

>>Yury M.
From: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Can Yeltsin reelect parlament now? /Re: Estonian Russian-speakers 2
Date: 10 Dec 92 22:25:47 GMT
Reply-To: simon1@bass.bu.edu (Simon Streltsov)
Followup-To: soc.culture.soviet
Organization: Boston University

In article <1992Dec8.202556.20058@galois.mit.edu> verbit@cauchy.mit.edu (Mikahil Verbitski) writes:

>Unfortunately, to dissolve and reelect the Congress,
>Yeltsin needs one of the following:
>(a) to gather 1.000.000 votes from people
>who want the reelection, or
So easy? or you missed couple of zeroes?!
less than 1% of population?

KGB could do the job with  1/n-th of it's recruiters...

Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: linnan@lk-hp-19.hut.fi (Matti J Linnanvuori)
Subject: Re: How to avoid panslavism and toilets in Finland
Organization: Helsinki University of Technology, Finland
Date: 13 Dec 92 14:18:31 GMT

In <1992Dec10.020253.7157@polaris.utu.fi> Olli-Jukka Paloneva <opaloneva@abo.fi> writes:
>V Moskve bylo vozhmozno raspisyvatsja "po-sovetski" -
>svadba s moskvitskoi!

  Were you thought in Moscow to have married a Russian and taken
her last name?

Quiz: Is the songstress Arja Koriseva's last name Russian?
From: igor@cs.columbia.edu (Igor Pankevich)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
Subject: Re: Boris Grebenschikov
Date: 21 Dec 92 00:53:56 GMT
Organization: Columbia University Department of Computer Science

In article <1992Dec20.024119.2266@panix.com>, jackz@panix.com (Evgueni Zabokritski) writes:
> In article <LEONID.92Dec19131458@tuna.uchicago.edu> leonid@tuna.uchicago.edu (Leonid Andreev) writes:
>                     ..................
> >Well, "Gorod zolotoy" ( City the Golden ) - as for this one,
> >nobody really knows, where it comes from. Bob used to refere
> >to it as to "narodnaja", but this piece of lyrics is pretty 
> >strange just for a folk song. Do you know anything about
> >it's origin?
> 
> Continuing the theme, are there Bob fans around here who feel the strong
> connections between many Aquarium songs and English fantasy, primarily
> Tolkien ? These connections have been heard to be directly confirmed
> by Bob. I personally feel it very strongly, although not necessarily in
> details, but in "general impression". I believe the above mentioned
> "Golden City" should belong either to Lothlorien, or to that "hidden land"
> of Valar, whose name I forgot.
> 
> Opinions?
> 
> -- Jack

As I said, Bob has completely screwd up the meaning of a song. Read it as
"Nad nebom golubim", and you will see the difference. It is no fantasy,
it is philosophy.

--Igor P.

Discalaimer: I like Akvarium.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: s0454850@let.rug.nl (J.P. Prenger)
Subject: Travelling to Lithuania
Organization: Faculteit der Letteren, Rijksuniversiteit Groningen, NL
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 19:09:36 GMT

Hi there!

A friend of mine plans to travel to Lithuania this week. He thinks of go 
there by car & then try to sell the car to pay the return to the 
Netherlands. So he needs some information:

-Where can he best sell his car?
-Do you need any paperwork (in Lithuania; he knows about the paperwork in 
Holland)?
-Where can you sleep best?
-What are the things he absolutely needs to see?

Thanx in advance, please E-mail me, for I don't always read this newsgroup & 
so I won't forget to give him the info before he leaves (he'll leave next 
saturday)

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.soviet
From: oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev)
Subject: Some people don't have a clue...
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services (408 241-9760 guest)
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 07:54:05 GMT

In article <9212132117@zuma.UUCP> sera@zuma.UUCP (Serdar Argic) writes:
[100+ lines of propaganda deleted]

I see Hasan Mutlu did not get too inconvenienced by being fired by AT&T.
Now he can spend all his time posting crap.  

$ cat >> $HOME/News/soc/culture/soviet/KILL
/sera@zuma/h:j
/soc.culture.turk/h:j
^D

Good bye, lunatic.
-- 
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