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From: neal@RIEMANN.MATH.MUN.CA (Neal Crossan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: JNT fired by BBC Audio
Date: 10 Oct 92 17:11:36 GMT

Well it's not as exciting as a new series, but it's still the best news I've
heard in the past few months.

 From DWB #105 (September 1992)

       BBC Audio Snubs JNT For Taking The Credit

  Ex-Doctor Who producer John Nathan-Turner has been unceremoniously snubbed
by BBC Audio and will have no further involvement with their range of Doctor
Who audio cassettes, the first two of which - The Evil of the Daleks and The 
Macra Terror - surprised everyone by debuting in the Gallup album chart at
72 and 104 respectively, a first for a BBC Audio Collection release.

  As we reported last issue, fan Richard Landen - who provided BBC Audio with
his original off-air recordings - waived a fee but instead requested an
acknowledgement for his involvement in the project.  However, Nathan-Turner took
it upon himself to inform Landen that a credit would not be possible due to 
contractual reasons (technically a conributory credit could be construed as an
admission of guilt on Landens part for unofficially taping the episodes 
off-air in the first place).

  However JNT did not inform Landen that he could, instead, be acknowledged in a
"thanks to ..." capacity just as BBC Audio had credited members of the public
before.  Landen was not entirely pleased to see that JNT had himself collected
a sizeable credit on the cassettes and when contacted by the department head
Sue Anstruther, with a view to doing more following their immediate success, he 
informed her that he was not prepared to lend further recordings.  Concerned at
hearing of her former boss - Anstruther was production associate for most of 
Season 22 - had acted in such a " churlish" fashion, she immediantly took him 
to task for his presumptious behavior, resulting in him being ousted from any
future involvement with BBC Audio releases and Eric Saward, his former script 
editor being brought in to replace him.

   Although his work for BBC Audio was on a freelance basis only, it is known 
that JNT is keen for any work he can get in the Dr. Who field, despite growing 
resentment from fans concerning his apparently dubious knowledge of the subject
matter and his approach to the audio tapes and video 'specials'.

   Saward has already geared himself up with reference material for the next
two releases.  For The Power of the Daleks he is armed with DWB's photonovel
adaptation, and he has sought out Victor Pemberton's Fury From The Deep novel
to familiarise himself with the season 5 chiller when he come to tackle it.

   News of JNT's behavior is known to have filtered through to BBC Video and
it remains to be seen what action if any, they will take to ensure that he
doesn't behave in a similiar fashion there...



    -Neal Crossan-
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From: mrmuon@next12csc.wam.umd.edu (Eli John Hawkins)
Subject: Re: Timewyrm:  Does sequence matter?
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 20:40:40 GMT

In article <9210071434.AA29910@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>  
shiva%morpheus%Servers@MAGNOLIA.BANYAN.COM writes:
> I just received _Timewyrm: Apocalypse_ from my local bookstore.  The  
other 
> three books are backordered from their distributor, so I suspect it'll  
be on
> the order of months before I ever see them.
> 
> So will I be totally ruining my novel-reading experience if I read this  
one 
> first?

I'd say to wait. I think it would spoil the two preceding stories  
somewhat. I think the only logical order to read them in other than the  
actual order, would be to skip "Apocolypse" as it is (I think) the worst  
of the series and really doesn't add anything to the overall plot.
Actually I'd recomend doing what I did with the "Cat's Cradle" series: I  
(painfully) waited until I had all of them, then read them all in rapid  
succession.
From: jblum@hamlet.umd.edu (Hi ho -- Kermit the Frog here...)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: COMPANION POLL RESULTS
Date: 16 Oct 92 19:59:12 GMT
Organization: University of Maryland, College Park

In article <1992Oct16.063251.7055@pimacc.pima.edu> ppugliese@pimacc.pima.edu writes:
>So who the H*LL was Frobisher?

A truely wonderful creation of the Marvel Comics comic strip -- a shape-
shifting eccentric who liked the shape of a penguin.  He suffered from
the K9 system of occasionally being a shape-shifting plot device on legs
(or flippers, rather), but he had a great personality that worked better
with Colin Baker than either of his "real" companions.
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From: le@cs.tulane.edu (Doug Le)
Subject: Silver Nemisis Question
Nntp-Posting-Host-[nntpd-10964]: poseidon
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Tulane Univ., New Orleans, LA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 16:11:12 GMT


Keywords: 
I have just seen the episode "Silver Nemisis", in which the DOCTOR (Sylvester McCoy) was said to be more than a time lord.  What is he then????  Does this age thing hasve anything to do with it???
From: os902821@birch.canberra.edu.au (Scott David McLauchlan)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: RED DWARF & BLAKES SEVEN
Date: 12 Oct 92 00:34:18 GMT
Organization: Info Sci & Eng, University of Canberra, AUSTRALIA

In <1b2auvINNldj@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White) writes:


>In a previous article, aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White) says:

>>
>>In a previous article, lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) says:
>>
>>>Another newsgroup to check for these would be rec.arts.sf.tv, where the
>>>B7 and Red Dwarf folk are migrating...
>>>
>>

>You could also try alt.tv.red-dwarf

Since you are from Australia, you could also take a look at aus.sf.
There doesn't seem to be a lot of BLAKES 7 or RED DWARF stuff there at
the moment, but I'm sure we can do something about that!

"Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast" - Arnold "Ace" Rimmer.
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From: haecky@tss.com (Valerie Haecky)
Subject: Scarf Photograph ?
Reply-To: haecky@tss.com (Valerie Haecky)
Organization: Teknekron Software Systems. Inc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 17:13:40 GMT


 Now, that I have the pattern, does anyone have a photograph
I could borrow ? (I am *very* good at returning borrowed things).
Or is ther a way/club/shop - who knows what - where I can obtain
one ? Like a magazine that is relatively generally available ? Or
not so generally, but you know, where I could get one ?

Valerie

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From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: Last of the Bannermen?  Stunk.
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:42:48 GMT

>
>Catherine, and all the others who responded:
>
>Saw _Dragonfire_ Saturday night, and it was a _lot_ better than
>_Delta and the Bannerman_.  Thanks for suggesting that I stick
>with it.
>
>Ace is much better than Mel, who had a good scream but
>used it much to often (was that all she ever did?).
>
Yes, you've pretty much nailed the companion on the hair there.
One of my favorite moments in "Dragonfire" is when Mel suggests they
play "I, Spy" and Ace shoots her an "Are you for real?" look.
Priceless and ice hot.

And another good moment:
"I think you'll find most educated people regard mythical convictions
as fundamentally anamistic."  (Spelling may be out on the last word.)


>-- 
>   Brice Dowaliby, Fluent Inc., 10 Cavendish Court, Lebanon, NH  03766
>                         bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu        
>             I don't speak for them, they don't speak for me
>                              DoD # 0698


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Nf-From: nemesis.UUCP!uhclem    Oct  8 22:08:00 1992


<>
[0]Again one of these mysterious quizes with out a single question....
[0]
[0]>  Hint for Division B: Bye, Bye.
[0]
[0]Or maybe these are just hints?????  I haven't a clue, and I'm sure
[0]others out there are just as confused.
[0]
[0]                                  Bill

The instructions for The Dr. Who Quote Quiz (now in its 4th year) were posted
some weeks back and are available simply by sending email to
quiz@nemesis.lonestar.org.  The instructions are only posted in rec.arts.drwho
twice at the start of the fall/spring and once at the 6th-week mark to reduce
group clogging.

In a nutshell, determine who said these quotes, what story they said it
in, and send your answers to the address mentioned.  DON'T POST YOUR GUESS.
Get the instructions, it provides helpful hints about how the questions
are structured that will help you do better.

Frank Durda IV <uhclem@nemesis.lonestar.org>|"What?  Yards of plastic to 
...utacfd!nemesis!uhclem (nearest internet) | accomplish that which can be
...letni!rwsys!nemesis!uhclem	            | done with just a few inches?"
...decvax!microsoft!trsvax!nemesis!uhclem   |Who Said it and What Story?
From: 1-1@tardis.cojones.com (Keeper Of The Matrix #1 @1)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: I have Doctor Who SoundFiles . . .
Date: 10 Oct 92 15:05:23 GMT


 Regarding Message : DrWho theme MOD wanted...
 Written By        : tswanson@misvax.mis.arizona.edu (QUIS CUSTODIET IPSOS CUSTOD

> Does anyone have a DrWho theme MOD out there?  There appears to be a
> theme .snd file at the ccb.ucsf.edu site, but that doesn't help me much,
> unless I can convert it to a .voc or .wav file.  It's too big for me
> to download anyway.

     . . . I have 2 SoundBlaster .VOC files <a TARDIS & The 7th Doctor's Theme
Song> and a couple of .MOD files <Doctor Who Mixes> . . . You can get them from
calling my BBS and leaving a note, and I will give you access to them <The name
and the number of the BBS is at the bottom of this note> . . . 

                            -Keeper Of The Matrix-
                            1-1@tardis.cojones.com


TARDISNet . . . Networking at its finest . . . 

  The Matrix: Doctor Who BBS  (209) 571-0347  Modesto, Ca  TARDISNet 1@1
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Tharils
Date: 15 Oct 92 18:37:29 GMT
Article-I.D.: murdoch.1992Oct15.183729.3347
Organization: University of Virginia

In article <torresce.719166690@craft.camp.clarkson.edu> torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres) writes:
>Hi,
>enslavement for him and his people.  The Tharils seem to be able to travel
>on the Time stream (like the TARDIS) by getting themselves out of phase
>(or perhaps this is a consequence of it).  But anyway, I wonder what the
>TimeLords think of a race that used to enslave others and basically use the
>Universe as a garden (as they said themselves).  Isn't this kind of like a
>variant of the Time Scoop from the Death Zone?  Who has more authority?
>I know that the time of the reign of the Tharils was a long time ago, but
>the TimeLords have been around for awhile also.  It makes me wonder if the 
>TimeLords even know anything about E-space (besides theoretics) - after all
>the Dr was a TimeLord (graduated from the academy) and he knew very little -
>although I'm sure somebody can argue that he wasn't paying much attention at
>the time.
>	So, does anyone have any theories as to how the TimeLords might
>view the Tharils?  Perhaps being natural Time creatures, the TimeLords concede
>authority to them?
>		Mystic
>

The Time Lords most likely don't know a thing about the Tharils since the
Tharils exist in the different universe of E-space.  Even if they did,
they wouldn't care.  
The Tiome Lords most likely have more poweer since theirs is a technological
power as opposed to the natural ones of the Tharils.  Also, I don't think
the Tharils have convenient access to the interior of a black hole like
the Time Lords do.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: ira2p@faraday.clas.Virginia.EDU (Iain Robert Asplin)
Subject: Re: TARDIS topography
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:50:56 GMT

In article <92286.000016D1BQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> <D1BQC@CUNYVM.BITNET> writes:
>Hi. I'm building a virtual TARDIS in a MOO and I'd like it to resemble
>The Doctor's TARDIS to some extent. I already have 2 rooms - the control
>room & another room -, the larger-inside-than-outside attribute, 2
>"graphics" - the outside of the TARDIS & the console in the control room -,
>and de/materialization ability. If anyone knows the original TARDIS'
>topography/map as a simple text drawing, or GIF/JPEG in graphics.misc/FTP
>site, please let me know. Feel free to send a stick figure text map.
>Thank you very much.
>Please post to this newsgroup or e-mail to: wbwqc@cunyvm.cuny.edu

The trouble with doing this is that the rooms can be and have been changed
around in order thanks to the Architectural Configuration System.
Since the TARDIs interior is not in Real space, but rather a pocket of
warped spacetime, i.e. Imaginary or Virtual Space, the interior can be
molded about virtually at will much the same way you can change around
te order of rooms in your computer program.  

Here, however, is a list of all the rooms I can think of:
Food Machine room.  
Sleeping Quarters for Barbara and Susan/and/or/Vicki with very uncomfortble
looking beds.
Corridors!
Fault Locator (not seen after Season Two)
Wardrobe Room
Power Room from "Mind Robber"
Boot Cupboard frm "Masque of Mandragora"
Secondary TARDIS Control Room from Season 14
Bathroom/Swimming Pool Room
Sick Bay
Out-of-order lift
Garden
Art Gallery
More corridors!
Workshops
Laboratories
Nyssa and Tegan's room
Adric/Turlough's room
Zero Room (jettisoned in Castrovalva)
Many more corridors!
Cloisters
And that's all I can think of off the top of my head.
From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Resolution considering 'expanding' r.a.dw's information
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 05:21:32 MDT
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada


Getting back to 'improving' r.a.dw, here is a resolution I put to the net:

Whereas Doctor Who is still a popular tv show

and

Whereas other forums in the science fiction do give some history of there show

Be It Fully Resolved that

1)  The FAQ stay in current format as is.

2) The Yadon resolution for the Club's Listing be adopted (an example is
                                                           provided by
                                                           Legion of Rassilon)

3) Add the following:

   a)  List television stations all over the world that broadcast Doctor Who

   b)  Merge both Jim Miller and Frank Durda's Episode Guide AS well as

       i) Listing the Planets that the Doctor Who has visited.

       ii) And pardon the ignorance on this one, include actors, producers and

           special guests that have appeared on an episode

   c)  List also the Model of TARDISes that are active.

   d)  Pardon ignorance again, include the DW Movies.

Opening remarks:

   I was recently comparing articles in news.answers and thought if it were
possible to expand on the FAQs and other stuff r.a.dw has and can offer.  The
above is a possible solution.

  Let us as readers of r.a.dw carefully consider the above resolution.

Dave Shariff Yadallee (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca,
userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
Canadians: send a clear message to the government!  ON Oct. 26, Abstain
From: quiz@nemesis.UUCP
Date: 09 Oct 92 20:07 CDT
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: An inconsitency that started the Ke
Message-ID: <-403754@nemesis>
Nf-ID: #R:<3NRBsB5w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.:-35:nemesis:-403754:000:808
Nf-From: nemesis.UUCP!quiz    Oct  9 20:07:00 1992


<>
[0]IN the 'Ribos Operation', the Doctor makes mention that he should have
[0]'thrown the President to the Sontarans'.  BUT wasn't it the case that
[0]The Doctor forgot his episode in 'The Invasion of Time'?

He would have to throw himself to the Sontarans, as he IS the President,
or at least was earlier in that story.  Somewhere between here and
The Five Doctors, Borusa gets the job.  

Anyway, there is no explanation of how the President would have any say
or control over the White Guardian.  The Guardians seems to be somewhat
higher up the ladder than a mere Timelord.

QuizMaster    quiz@nemesis.lonestar.org|"What is inside is most important
            quiz%nemesis@utacfd.uta.edu| at the moment."
	   ...uunet!utacfd!nemesis!quiz|
	   ...letni!rwsys!nemesis!quiz |Who said it and What story?
From: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: November 23,1992
Date: 12 Oct 1992 01:01:42 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: aa634@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bill White)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc5.ins.cwru.edu



Well, November 23 is rapidly approaching and I was wondering if
any of our users in England know if there's anything planned for
the 29th anniversary? (i.e. phone in campaigns, demonstrations,
etc.).
-- 
Bill White, aa634@Cleveland.freenet.edu OR aa037@Medina.Freenet.edu
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       Assistant Sysop, Cleveland & Medina County Free-net's
                  Science Fiction and Fantasy Sig
From: mossman@sag1.ssl.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Interview with John Nathan-Turner on Ch. 54 (San Jose)
Date: 7 Oct 1992 19:22:45 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Distribution: usa
Reply-To: mossman@sag1.ssl.berkeley.edu ()
NNTP-Posting-Host: sag1.ssl.berkeley.edu

Did anyone see Dr. Who on Channel 54 (San Jose) on Sunday? Following
the episode there was an interview with John Nathan-Turner which I
managed to see only a few minutes of and then erase(Argh!). But at the
very begining he said, "When Doctor Who comes back, blah blah...".
THere was no date associated with this interview so was he talking
about the first hiatus or the present one? ANy clues? By the way,
the new format of Doctor Who on 54 is not too bad. Pleasing both
camps, or trying to, they are showing episode format all together.
So you can see the whole story but not miss the campy cliffhangers.

Amy Mossman
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: xoanon@triton.unm.edu (timothy k istian soholt)
Subject: Happiness Patrol (Was Re: Last of the Bannermen?  Stunk.)
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 17:11:26 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

(Michael J M Holmes) writes:

>Just wanted to unlurk to express appreciation for the kind words
>about "The Happiness Patrol!"

>Its my favorite episode, and renewed my faith in the possibility
>of Dr. Who continuing.

Well, it wasn't my favorite, but it was definitely a step up from
"Delta and the Bannermen." A BIIIIIG step up. "Delta" was only 
saved by the music.

>"Happiness Will Prevail!"
>:)

"The Computer is Your Friend. Happiness is Mandatory."

Who wrote that one? He/she/it must be a PARANOIA fan. I don't
think anyone who's the least bit familiar with PARANOIA could
fail to see the parallels.

-- Tim Soholt (xoanon@carina.unm.edu), The Man With No .sig
   (and no copy of _Nightshade_ yet :=( )
From: steven.k.manfred@UWRF.EDU
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Amendment to US releases
Date: 9 Oct 92 23:42:58 GMT

As soon as I hit the send key, I realized I left Shada out of the US


release list.  Add that and you have it complete.

Steve/Iain
From: riff@coos.dartmouth.edu (Christopher P. Riff)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Love And War ISBN
Date: 12 Oct 92 13:27:33 GMT
Distribution: ]
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

The ISBN for Love and War, by Paul Cornell is:

0-426-20385-2.

According to DWM, this book is due out Oct. 15. However, I
ordered it from a local bookstore in New Hampshire on the
9th and got the book on the 11th! I've only read about
1/4th of the book, so I don't want to say anything about 
it yet.

--------------------
Chris Riff
riff@dartmouth.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: RED DWARF & BLAKES SEVEN
Followup-To: rec.arts.drwho
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Thu, 8 Oct 1992 14:56:52 GMT

Another newsgroup to check for these would be rec.arts.sf.tv, where the
B7 and Red Dwarf folk are migrating...
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From: rad@cix.compulink.co.uk (Richard Develyn)
Subject: Re: No subject
Reply-To: rad@cix.compulink.co.uk
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:34:19 +0000


It was only parts 5 & 10 that were found. They are released in the UK 
as part of DALEKS - the early years.
--

Richard Develyn from Hastings, Sussex, England ( rad@cix.compulink.co.uk ).
Software engineer (datacomms) for Cray Network Systems. Married to Caroline.
Hobbies: Dr Who, FRPG, SF, Curry, quality computer games, phylanthropic
discussions.
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.sf.fandom
From: pealbers@undergrad.math.waterloo.edu (Paul E. Albers)
Subject: FTP site request
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 16:21:27 GMT

If someone out there knows of an FTP site where I can get hold of 
a sound file (the kind that I can use with SoundMaster on the Mac)
of the TARDIS dematerialization (and/or materialization), would you
be so kind as to email me soon and let me know where it is?

Thanks in advace
Paul

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From: paige@csri.toronto.edu (The Woodsman)
Subject: Other story ripoffs
Organization: CSRI, University of Toronto
Date: 15 Oct 92 14:10:48 GMT

  Most DW stories are at least in some way borrowed from somewhere. I
 seem to remember reading somewhere that some "famous author" had decided
 that there were only about 3 different stories in existence and all
 that changes "...is the telling". With DW, he/she may be right.

  Brain of Morbius = Frankenstein

  State of Decay   = Dracula

  Pyramids of Mars = The Mummy type of story

  Most Pertwees    = alien invasions of some type

  The Mind Robber  = Alice in Wonderland

  Delta/Bannermen  = Plan Nine from Outer Space   :) :) :)

  
  and there are undoubtably more. The only thing that makes this "stealing"
 excusable is the fact that many of these stories go beyond the actual
 plot. Some of the best DW stories, like Pyramids of Mars, or my personal
 favourites, Ark in Space, Genesis of the Daleks and Image of the Fendahl,
 twist classic storylines around and give a little dose of morality. It
  certainly makes things more interesting.

  Anyone notice that most of the good DW episodes use "Horror film" plots
(eg: Pyramids of Mars, Image of the Fendahl)?


              			The Woodsman.


-- 

Rich Paige DCS/CSRI     paige@csri.toronto.edu