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From: tyger@bluemoon.rn.com (Dale Huffman)
Subject: Re: What is the Prancing Skiltaire?
Organization: Blue Moon BBS ((614) 868-998[024])
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 18:41:59 EDT

IO10716@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (Jason McIntosh) writes:

> MM-hmm... I suppose that skiltaire could be powergamed with amedium like furr
> UCK, but the only prevalent one there, Sley, never does anything with her pow
> s except having cute hug messages. No reason to pick on her.

there is also Bonni Skiltare, who also doesn't use her powers..

 This is from
     tyger@bluemoon.rn.com
who doesn't have their own obnoxious signature yet
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
From: skaterat@vesta.unm.edu ()
Subject: Animalympics
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 92 05:18:44 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

BTW, does anyone remember an animated full-length film called Animalympics?
We're talking early eighties here...I believe...
I remember it fondly from younger years, but I can't find it in video stores
 anymore and was wondering if anyone else has seen/owns/knows where I can get a copy, perhaps...

--Skye
"Raise some hell and break some stuff, it's good for the mind" -Rob

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From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (Greywolf)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Furries and sexuality (again)
Date: 8 Apr 92 14:42:24 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <alberti.702709666@ux.acs.umn.edu>, alberti@ux.acs.umn.edu (Timothy Fay) writes:
> 
>>In article <2070@ontek.com> john@ontek.com (John Alan Stanley) writes:
>>->
>>->Ah, here is the crux of the matter.  This statement bothers me.  I suppose
>>->that means we should avoid talking about politics, cars, friends, or
>>->anything else not strictly "furry" when we are in "furry" space as well, eh?
>>->Somehow, that image is not an appealing one, and it seems to give lie to
>>->your assertions of tolerance.  Fact is, furry gatherings are just like any
>>->other social group.  People will discuss what concerns them, and you are
>>->free to join in or ignore them as you will.  There is no way to prevent
>>->this, and no conceivable reason to do so.  The folks who are concerned with
>>->gay issues will discuss them, the folks who like guns will discuss them, etc.
>>->If you don't like the discussion, find someone else to talk to!
> 
> When Richard Chandler and I got into a discussion regarding guns & furries
> (sounds like a Heavy Metal band, dunnit?) in this newsgroup, we were told,
> in no uncertain terms, to take the discussion elsewhere.  It seems that
> the furries aren't quite as tolerant as you make them out to be.

I *do* recall something along those lines ... good point.
> 
> In <1992Apr7.072818.11351@muddcs.claremont.edu> dgreen@jarthur.claremont.edu
>  (David 'Mishael' Green) writes:
> 
>>...What I saw was, "Hey, can't we recognize furriness and sexuality as
>>two entirely different issues," and "Erotica isn't the only reason for 
>>furries being furries."  Both of which seem quite valid points to me...
> 
> Erotica probably is the main reason for most furries being furries.

Hm.  Well, maybe furrydom is just the wrong place for me...

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From: klein@kira.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: We *are* taking ourselves too seriously
Date: 16 Apr 92 12:10:44 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University College of Stunt Piloting

In article <35126@uflorida.cis.ufl.edu> jc@dolphin.cis.ufl.edu (Jimmy Chin) writes:
>
>Oh, by the way, I'm leaving the net next month. I have an animation job
>this summer!

Where? Where? (as if no one else is gonna ask this)
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                            |  and the other has a hand growing out  
klein@kira.egr.msu.edu      |  of his(?) head!" - Blue Bunny
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry,rec.games.mud
From: brynwulf@acm.rpi.edu (Andrew Thomas Maxwell)
Subject: Re: FurryMUCK legality/illegality?
Organization: The Voice of Fate
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 17:31:50 GMT

In article <1992Apr9.220040.3729@iscsvax.uni.edu> peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (Greywolf) writes:
>a certain unpopular person's attempts to wreak havoc on FurryMUCK by
>accidentally sending email) that imply that there is something illegal about
>FurryMUCK, but I don't recall any statements that seem to deny that charge.  Is
>FurryMUCK legal or illegal?  In what sense?  I'd just like to know, if anybody
>can provide an answer.

Okay...MU*s in general brush the fringe's of what the NSF considers 'legal'.
They are a game, and like all games, they are frowned upon by the NSF because
they waste valuable CPU/net/machine space, in the NSF's opinion.

However, they *are* legal, and allowed on the net...The 'illegality' mentioned
with FurryMUCK was that Bruce had claimed in his letter to the UCI sysadmins
that FurryMUCK was running as a backgrounded root process on a machine, which
implied that someone who was *not* in charge had root access to a machine at 
UCI. This is what got the UCI staff in an uproar, and consequently lost 
FurryMUCK its site at UCI.

Hope this clears this up.
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From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Kay Shapero)
Sender: NewsMeister@mcws.fidonet.org
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Why I'm not furry
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 08:49:24 -0700

On <Apr 10 22:34>, Jeff Cornish wrote to All:

 JC>  1. gum/sticky stuff solvent---for mundane encounters with the 
 JC>urban environs
 JC>  
 JC>  I hereby petition that this solvent be dubbed Tide.
 JC> 

Actually it exists in the real world and is called "Dsolve-it" (spelling
a guess - my bottle's upstairs_ and it DOES take gum out of things very
well.   

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From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (Greywolf)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Furry Famdom--present and future
Date: 7 Apr 92 15:18:11 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

In article <7APR92.02184979@umbc2.umbc.edu>, noel@umbc2.umbc.edu writes:
>> (Southern California, Arizona), Central (San Antonio, Minneapolis), southeast 

I presume that Iowa is located somewhere in the "Central" area suspended
between San Antonio and Minneapolis?  Let's see ... There's the Dallas Brawl in
Texas, along with Antarctic Press and Furrlough.  I don't recall who all and
what all one would find "furry" in Minneapolis, though...

> you live is going to become less and less important.

Unless you want to attend one of the furry conventions.  =P

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From: john@ontek.com (John Alan Stanley)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: skiltaires
Date: 10 Apr 92 00:53:17 GMT
Organization: Ontek Corporation -- Laguna Hills, California

In article <9204081523.AA20396@mail.cis.ohio-state.edu> FURRJK@vtvm1.cc.vt.edu writes:
}Back when Sley was nasty-swept by Kostchyevkov, Blaze went around telling
}lies about not being Sley and how "poor Sley" was very upset by being raped
}and killed by Kostchyevkov.  Truth was, Sley wouldn't get the hell out of a
}place he/she was not wanted and deserved whatever she got.  If Sley is the
}best representative of the Skiltaire species around, the Skiltaires are in
}trouble.  They're vermin anyway.

Is there some point to this, beyond blatant character assasination of 
someone who is not here to defend themselves?  I find this sort of attitude
far more repellent than anything you've said Blaze or Sley have done.
And when I hear someone complain about how bad it is that another person's
character cannot be harmed, it really makes me wonder why that is a problem.
After all, only if you wanted to hurt or kill the character would that be
any sort of problem, so it would seem likely to me that you are the one
who has problems with power gaming.  I'd hardly call raping and killing
someone's character the epitomy of politeness, and I can hardly see how
someone's presence in a public place is grounds for murder.

Perhaps you can explain to us just what Sley was doing to everyone which
necessitated her desecration and muder.  Eating lunch is not usually 
regarded as a capitol offense, after all...

JAS
From: IO10914@MAINE.MAINE.EDU (UG-LUG-ZUG)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: BRUCE
Date: 5 Apr 92 19:27:43 GMT
Organization: University of Maine System

I'm semi-new on furry, and I was just wondering about this Bruce thing.  Is his
 story true?  Is all he did create too many objects?  It seems kind of harsh to
 toad him forever for that, but if there are other reasons I am curious to know
 them.

-Spason
From: Kay.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Kay Shapero)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles
Date: Wed, 08 Apr 92 00:13:23 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:102/524 - StormGate Aerie, Los Angeles CA

On <Apr 06 21:37>, Greywolf wrote to All:

 G>What about Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles?  I recall a *looooong* 
 G>time ago being
 G>amused when I first saw a copy of TMNT in black and white ... Is 
 G>there a time
 G>when TMNT used to be considered part of the small press furrydom?  

The original TMNT was a joke.  Y'see, there were several comics about
containing the adventures of mutant teenagers, notably Marvel Comics'
X-MEN, and a similar number of ninja and the like books.  So Eastman and
Laird decided to be MONUMENTALLY silly, and came out with this thing
entitled TEENAGE MUTANT NINJA TURTLES. You couldn't tell the turtles
apart (I believe this was part of the gag), and there was this storyline
that neatly took jabs at just about every popular trend in major comics
at the time.  It was very funny, it lasted awhile, and that was that.
Well, anyway we thought that was that.  Some time passed, and then rumors
begain to float around that there would be a TMNT animated short feature,
then TMNT action figures appeared, and the next thing... Like the Energizer
Rabbit it just kept going, and going, and...  Frankly the thing strikes me
as the great surealist statement of this century; the further this goes,
the funnier the whole thing gets, like a gag that expands beyond all
hope of sanity.

The original was funny.  The action figures were funnier.  That the
special not only existed, but became a cartoon SERIES was even funnier.
That there were two live action MOVIES was hilarious.  And all the other
comic books, TMNT toys, TMNT mugs and plates, TMNT cereal bowls, TMNT
CEREAL for heaven's sake...  words fail me..... 



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From: Nicolai.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Nicolai Shapero)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Random comments from the survey
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 92 06:01:21 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:102/524 - StormGate Aerie, Los Angeles CA

On <Apr 10 14:33>, "net.spy!" wrote:

 ">Only in places 
 ">like
 ">California, where the furry population is relatively dense, are
 ">computer networks unnecessary.

But California is where one furry network got started because
the local furry fan density wasn't high enough to support face-to-face
discussions often enough with wide enough breadth.

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From: tigrover@kittyhawk.ecn.uoknor.edu (Corwyn J. Alambar)
Subject: Re: Fundies at CF3 (again)
Summary: An insiders second hand view of the incident in question
Keywords: Rumors, info, confrontation?
Organization: Engineering Computer Network, University of Oklahoma, Norman, OK, USA
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 21:37:02 GMT

     First off, I'll start with a little disclaimer.  This is not a
first hand report, by any stretch, but just passing on of information
received from several good friends who were supposedly involved in
said Fundie incident.  Now, with that aside, let's tell the tale...

     Apparently, the Fundie in question was more of the "Brother Jed"
variety that plagues college campuses and street corners across the 
US.  He just had the misfortune of picking a corner near (I'm not
sure exactly where in relation to the con) The Holiday Inn Maingate.
Whereupon he began a 'discussion' with several people (who's names I 
shall retain in confidence, to protect the "guilty") about the nature
of sin and what was to be done about it.  Of course, with the proximity
to the con, several people who had been attending the con happened upon
him, and that's when this rumor got started.  

     Just hoping to clear up a little confusion... Hope this helps.

                        -Tom/Corwyn J. Alambar (The Tiger That Stalks The Net)

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Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: New Albedo 4
Date: 13 Apr 92 00:05:22 GMT
Article-I.D.: vm1.920412.190523.CDT.MHIGH
Organization: And one for Jenny and the Wimp.

KidTandy -

New Albedo #4 shipped more than two weeks ago.  It arrived in stores
 here the Friday before last.

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From: Nicolai.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Nicolai Shapero)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Furries and sexuality (again)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 07:26:44 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:102/524 - StormGate Aerie, Los Angeles CA

Dave Peyton wrote:

 DP>Let me put it another way:  Some furry fans enjoy furry erotica; 
 DP>others
 DP>don't.  Both are entitled to their tastes.  Neither group is more
 DP>"correct," and neither group should try to claim that *it* alone 
 DP>is
 DP>representative of all of furry fandom (which the 'furverts' 
 DP>sometimes
 DP>seem to do).

After wading through over a month's worth of flames on just this
topic on FurNet, I'm afraid I'd have to disagree.  The group that
does NOT want furry erotica to be present seems (at least based on
its representatives on FurNet) to (a) consider itself representative
of all of furry fandom, and (b) considers itself to be the representation
of the One True Way, to which all must bow down or face excommunication.

Depending on which subgroup you're temporarily associated with, it
seems as though you'll get a totally different view of the "furry
erotica" issue.

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From: Nicolai.Shapero@f524.n102.z1.fidonet.org (Nicolai Shapero)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Fundies at CF3?
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 92 17:50:15 PDT
Organization: FidoNet node 1:102/524 - StormGate Aerie, Los Angeles CA

Dave Peyton wrote:

 DP>I'll confess that what I reported is exclusively hearsay, since I
 DP>wasn't at ConFurence myself.  But at least two posters recently
 DP>indicated that there was some sort of problem along these lines.

Might I suggest that unless you have concrete evidence that you refrain
from spreading rumors?  I was there and saw no evidence of said
"Fundie" problem.

 DP>But I do believe that
 DP>the reputation of ConFurence is an issue of sufficient importance
 DP>to warrant discussion, if the events there appear to be affecting
 DP>its reputation.

More like rumor mongering might affect the reputation of ConFurence.
Might I remind you of the legal definition of libel?

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From: peacock5293@iscsvax.uni.edu (Greywolf)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: 'Morphs
Date: 16 Apr 92 10:09:08 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Here's a petty little quibble here concerning my use of terms...  I happen to
use the term "morph" to refer to anthropomorhized animals, including everything
from Bambi (after all, he was sort of a talking deer, right?) to Bugs Bunny to
Erma Felna to Red Shetland ... However, someone that I've been emaildiscussing
with (who can't post here on alt.fan.furry, though he can read this -- Hi
there!) uses the term to refer to animals with a humanoid *form* (i.e. Bambi
would be excluded).  Is there anything resembling a "proper" usage of this
term?  I see 'morph used a lot (with or without the apostrophe) and now I'm not
quite sure whether or not I've been using the term properly, as I thought it to
be merely a slang abbreviation for those who can't handle saying (or *typing*)
"anthropomorphized animals" ten times real fast...

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From: steve@fulcrum.oz.au (Steve Taylor)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry,rec.arts.sf.misc
Subject: Re: Denial of Humanity
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:45:19 GMT
Organization: The Fulcrum Consulting Group

In article <1992Apr03.095448.11692@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us> rstevew@deeptht.santa-cruz.ca.us (Richard Steven Walz) writes:

>In real life, if aliens visit us
>they will be smarter more powerful and likely more versed in what this
>race or culture needs to stop being such a bunch of primitive
>knee-biters.

How can you say this? We haven't developed interstellar travel (yet), but
we *have* developed -

		Nuclear Power
		Computers
		Limited biotechnology
		Internal combustion + explosives
		Velcro
		Soft serve ice cream cones
		etc,

and we haven't turned into angels.

>Let's face it. Anyone who can cross light-years is likely
>to be our moral superior even about our moral affairs.

Let's face it. Anyone who can develop napalm is likely
to be our moral superior even about our moral affairs.

Before any flames me about being anti technology - I'm not. Some people
design fuel-air explosives, others design vaccines and dams. My point is
just that it's not our tool building abilities which determine our moral
stance.

					
					Steve
From: KidTandy@lorbit.UUCP (Jeff Cornish)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Re: Why I'm not furry
Distribution: usa
Date: 10 Apr 92 22:34:50 PDT
Organization: LOW ORBIT Science and Fiction

In article <1992Apr7.201446 GDCE
ie da Silva writes   (sorry about the lack of wraparound....)
>>   If you get gum or glue [stuff deleted]
>Don't be silly
>I have some stuff that'll dissolve gum and leave your fur intact
 
I think I now have an idea what the average furry carrys on thier person
  1. gum/sticky stuff solvent---for mundane encounters with the urban environs
  2. a big comb---in case licking/maintaining your fur in the natural way
    is gonna be a social pain.
  3. Scout knife with scissors--in case you run across/into/all over/all under
    some stuff that Tide ain't gonna take out...
 
btw.. the reference to Tide comes from a visit to Moffett Field/ the Langley
  Wind Tunnels.  The tour guide (a wonderful man who at the time reminded me
  of Nispy Russell) said of the fine soot inside the Wind Tunnel, "..and Tide
  won't get it out.
  
  I hereby petition that this solvent be dubbed Tide.
 
  KidTandy of LowOrbit
 
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  I Gallacci Have It!
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From: hepfox@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Dave Peyton)
Newsgroups: alt.fan.furry
Subject: Re: Fundies at CF3?
Date: 14 Apr 92 14:46:36 GMT
Organization: The University of Texas at Austin, Austin TX

In article <920410.193916.CDT.MHIGH@vm1.tucc.trinity.edu> MHIGH@VM1.TUCC.TRINITY.EDU ("net.spy!") writes:
>Ditto what Nicholai said.  I was at ConFurence as well, and don't
>remember anything about Christian findamentalism (oops, funda-) there.
>
>Dave, could you enlighten us?
>

I'll confess that what I reported is exclusively hearsay, since I
wasn't at ConFurence myself.  But at least two posters recently
indicated that there was some sort of problem along these lines.

I may just be making a mountain out of a molehill here, so if my
posting seemed exaggerated, my apologies.  But I do believe that
the reputation of ConFurence is an issue of sufficient importance
to warrant discussion, if the events there appear to be affecting
its reputation.



					^Dave^
					hepfox@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu

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From: arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Subject: Re: Why I'm Not Furry
Organization: Taronga Park BBS
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 20:14:46 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.225535.3724@msuinfo.cl.msu.edu>, klein@kira.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein) writes:
> 
>   If you get gum or glue stuck in your fur you have to shave it off and
> you look like a total gimpoid until it grows back.

Don't be silly.
I have some stuff that'll dissolve gum and leave your fur intact.
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