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From: scip2060@nusunix1.nus.sg (SARDJONO INSANI)
Subject: Apple ][ Serial Card Technical Info
Organization: National University of Singapore
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Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:08:56 GMT

[ Article crossposted from comp.sys.apple2 ]
[ Author was SARDJONO INSANI ]
[ Posted on Mon, 4 Jan 1993 06:04:44 GMT ]


Hi,
Does anybody know the technical information about apple serial card 
including the pinouts? 
I need this information for transfering my old apple disks to my PC.
Thanks.


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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: vera@fanaraaken.Stanford.EDU (James S. Vera)
Subject: Re: FTP site for Emulator
Organization: Program Analysis and Verification Group, Stanford University
Date: 12 Jan 93 03:09:21 GMT

lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:

>Anyone actually gone back the other way - from disk image back to disk?  I have
>an Apple II at home, and Sparkee looks interesting.  I love ceemac and some
>new scripts would be a lot of fun (sure wish someone would write one
>of those for my SPARC at work!).

>Anyways, what would I need to do to get a disk image out of the .dsk file?

I believe you can take a disk image (probably have to put it into
ProDos disk format (i.e., build tthe inverse of the mapper program
(available on wilbur)) and then use the D suboption to append in
nulib.

Something like, given sparkee.dsk you could do

%nulib ad sparkee.shk sparkee.dsk

and then put the shk file on your apple an run with it.  This is
untested, use at your own risk...

[BTW, it was this feature I was thinking out when commenting on
dsk_in.]

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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: tombaker@world.std.com (Tom A Baker)
Subject: Re: UNIX-Apple emulator?
Organization: Me, at The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 03:33:19 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.013850.9055@mtu.edu> destill@mtu.edu (Still) writes:
>"UNIX-Apple" emulator.  Is this shareware (or even freeware)?  Where can I
>find a copy?  WHAT'S THE FILE CALLED???  Any information would be greatly
>appreciated.

I pulled this stuff out of old a.e.i.a2 messages, so everyone here may
have already seen them.

I DO NOT VOUCH FOR THEM.  I'm trying to take at look at them myself,
but some sort of ftp board is on the fritz today on my machine (the
operators inform me) and so I couldn't even look.)

On the other hand, I do have a friend that does use a UNIX.Apple
emulator for AppleWorks.

wuarchive.wustl.edu:
       /usenet/alt.sources/articles/136[4-7].Z

ftp.uu.net:
       /systems/apple2/unix/apple2em.tar.Z

grind.isca.uiowa.edu:
       /unix/apple2/ap2e.tar.Z

Good luck.
From: christos@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Subject: Apple Printer to a PC COmputer????
Date: 12 Jan 93 07:08:36 CST
Organization: University of Kansas Academic Computing Services

Hello there,

	I have the following questions:
1. What is the difference between the 486DX2 and the 486DX 50MHz?
   Doesn't the MHz speed tell you how many clock cycles the CPU
   can perform?
2. Usually, a PC (IBM compatible) requires that you have memory
   that can be 1M, 2M, 4M, 8M etc.....multiples of 2. Is that always
   the case for the PC's? Is that the case for the MACs also? Why is that
   the case?
3. Hooking an Apple printer to a PC would require I guess an adapter
   that would convert the Centronics Interface signals to the Apple
   Talk Interface signals? Is there such an adaptor and how is it 
   called, where can we find one, and approximate what is the price?
   Also, buying such a device what do we need to pay attention to?


Thanks,
Internet address:
christos@kuhub.cc.ukans.edu

Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: mauricio@beethoven.aero.ufl.EDU (Mauricio Tavares)
Subject: Re: Reading Apple II+ (DOS 3.2) diskettes on an IBM PC
Reply-To: mauricio@beethoven.aero.ufl.EDU (Mauricio Tavares)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 13:07:13 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.033648.4533@cs.cornell.edu>, karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) writes:
|> Some discussion on the net in December suggested to me that my PC
|> might be made to read the files from diskettes formatted for an
|> Apple II+.  Unfortunately the messages seem to have been purged from
|> my site.
|> 
|> Can anyone tell me where to get a program for my IBM PC that will
|> copy files from diskettes formatted for Apple II+ DOS 3.2.1 to
|> a PC-DOS directory?  I'm looking for an executable or a complete
|> program source, either free or for a reasonable shareware fee.
|> I am *not* looking to spend countless hours of my own time
|> figuring out how to do the job.
|> 
|> The situation:  My brother has a dead Apple II+ in New York City, and 
|> I brought all the old diskettes--full of programs my father and I
|> wrote up to ten years ago--up to Ithaca hoping to transcribe them
|> on my PC (or at least back them up before the data fades away).
|> There's probably nothing of real value on these diskettes and I have
|> hard copies of most of the good stuff (my father had the habit of
|> making listings of everything by hand!) but for old times' sake it
|> would be nice to have on-line access to this stuff.
|> 
|> (Yes, the other solution would be to fix/replace the Apple; we may
|> end up doing that as well.)
|> 
|> -- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)

	Another solution is, assuming the contents of the floppies are not confidential, to find someone who has an Apple with serial card and simply upload the files to a PC, or even to the net.
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: tombaker@world.std.com (Tom A Baker)
Subject: Test
Organization: Me, at The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 23:40:44 GMT


I have been waiting for folks to get back from the winter
break (it is January 6) but it is amazing just how DEAD this
group got.  So I am seeing if my host (see Organization, above)
decided to kill the newsgroup.

I shall be releasing my "Disk Import" program as shareware this
weekend.  Be sure to get a copy.

tombaker
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: an1448@anon.penet.fi
Subject: No Subject
Organization: Anonymous contact service
X-Anonymously-To: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:02:11 GMT

One of the biggest problems I have found (as we all have)
was swapping disks inside the apple II emulator....
 
 
I BELIEVE I HAVE FOUND THE SOLUTION TO THIS PROBLEM!!!!
 
now, my results have been erratic but they have been successful
 
1) load up SHARE.EXE (this should come with your dos package)
2) get a file from the msdos/desqview directory of simtel or
it's mirrors called close101.zip (and files008.zip)
 
now here is the tricky part (I do this with desqview but it costs
money so...) get SOME task switcher that will allow you to get
to a dos prompt while the emulator is idle and asking you to
insert another disk into drive A......
 
type close (image file name)
copy (nextdisk) (image file name)
 
ex:
you have disk1.dsk and disk2.dsk
 
you boot from disk1.dsk and the emulator is asking for disk2.dsk
 
you switch away, type close disk1.dsk and copy disk2.dsk over disk1.dsk,
switch back to the emulator, press a key and the next disk should load
with no problems.
 
the problem all along was that the first image was never closed so
JUST copying the file over the first disk image does no good......
 
btw: files008.zip shows all open files (handy util to have anyway)
 
like I said, I have done this only with desqview (switching windows
after jumping to the debugger) but it SHOULD work under windows
and other similer programs. I have yet to find a good shareware
task switcher that will work with the emulator (if you have one, LET ME
KNOW PLEASE!!!) enjoy all.... questions comments flames PLEASE!
 
BT
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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2,comp.binaries.ibm.pc.wanted,comp.sys.ibm.pc.misc,comp.sys.apple2
From: karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr)
Subject: Reading Apple II+ (DOS 3.2) diskettes on an IBM PC
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:36:48 GMT

Some discussion on the net in December suggested to me that my PC
might be made to read the files from diskettes formatted for an
Apple II+.  Unfortunately the messages seem to have been purged from
my site.

Can anyone tell me where to get a program for my IBM PC that will
copy files from diskettes formatted for Apple II+ DOS 3.2.1 to
a PC-DOS directory?  I'm looking for an executable or a complete
program source, either free or for a reasonable shareware fee.
I am *not* looking to spend countless hours of my own time
figuring out how to do the job.

The situation:  My brother has a dead Apple II+ in New York City, and 
I brought all the old diskettes--full of programs my father and I
wrote up to ten years ago--up to Ithaca hoping to transcribe them
on my PC (or at least back them up before the data fades away).
There's probably nothing of real value on these diskettes and I have
hard copies of most of the good stuff (my father had the habit of
making listings of everything by hand!) but for old times' sake it
would be nice to have on-line access to this stuff.

(Yes, the other solution would be to fix/replace the Apple; we may
end up doing that as well.)

-- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: destill@mtu.edu (Still)
Subject: UNIX-Apple emulator?
Organization: Michigan Technological University
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 01:38:50 GMT

	In the "Sparkee 0/7" article, there was a mention of someone using a
"UNIX-Apple" emulator.  Is this shareware (or even freeware)?  Where can I
find a copy?  WHAT'S THE FILE CALLED???  Any information would be greatly
appreciated.
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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: dmerrill@cdc.hp.com (David Merrill)
Subject: Re: NEED ROMS...
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:01:55 GMT
Organization: HP California Design Center, Santa Clara, CA
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]

Capt. Sarcastic (kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu) wrote:

> Don't flame the hell out of me, but...

> I OWN an Apple II+ computer. I have no way of
> transferring hte ROMS to the PC.  Could someone
> either

> (A) mail them to me.
> (B) tell me how to do it with no term on the II, etc...

> Thanks...

> --
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> (Kurt S. Koller)     |gain higher profits they exploit the U.S. workers as well
> kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu|as the population of the countries dependent on the U.S.A.

I hate to say "me too", but

     ME TOO!


dave

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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2,comp.sys.apple2
From: HSTAMS@CIPVAX.BIOLAN.UNI-KOELN.DE (Henning Stams)
Subject: Transferring whole APPLE ][+ Disks via serial card??
Organization: BIOLAN - COLOGNE UNIVERSITY (FRG)
Date: Fri, 08 Jan 93 17:38:58 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.22

Hello out there,

as far as I noticed the discussions, it seems to be impossible to read
the good old 143K-Disks on an IBM-PC.
Sure it is possible to upload files from an apple to another computer
using a serial interface and something like kermit.
But- is there any way to "upload" a whole disk with all its sectors?
(Sounds like WARPing, which I know on other systems)

What I'd prefer is an already written program; I really don't want to bother
writing it myself using read-sector routines...

Any hint is appreciated!  Thanks, Henning (hstams@biolan.Uni-Koeln.DE)

Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu (Capt. Sarcastic)
Subject: NEED ROMS...
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 93 11:18:49 GMT


Don't flame the hell out of me, but...

I OWN an Apple II+ computer. I have no way of
transferring hte ROMS to the PC.  Could someone
either

(A) mail them to me.
(B) tell me how to do it with no term on the II, etc...

Thanks...

--
Capt. Sarcastic      |The U.S. economy is dominated by monopolies.  In order to
(Kurt S. Koller)     |gain higher profits they exploit the U.S. workers as well
kkoller@nyx.cs.du.edu|as the population of the countries dependent on the U.S.A.
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: vera@fanaraaken.Stanford.EDU (James S. Vera)
Subject: Baker files
Organization: Program Analysis and Verification Group, Stanford University
Date: 11 Jan 93 10:15:09 GMT

I've archived the programs Tom Baker just posted.  Tom please tell me
if that is not ok with you.

Also, could you explain how dsk_in differs from nulib's ability to
create disk images?

James S. Vera       |         Internet         | Voice: +1.415.723.1089 
Stanford University |  vera@anna.stanford.edu  | FAX:   +1.415.725.7398


Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: pak@gaul.csd.uwo.ca (Victor Pak)
Subject: FTP sites for apple2 emulator programs
Organization: Computer Science Dept., Univ. of Western Ontario, London, Canada
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 01:11:59 GMT

I was wondering if anyone knows any ftp sites for apple2 emulator games.  There
use to be a whole bunch at cco.caltech.edu but they're no longer there.  Also
I am also looking for a ftp site for version 2 of the apple2 emulator, the one
I found at wilbur.stanford.edu seems to have an error in the zip file.  I'd
appreciate if you e-mailed me the sites or posted them to the newsgroup. Thanks
in advance.

Victor Pak
pak@gaul.csd.uwo.ca
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Subject: FTP site for Emulator
From: skriefal@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (Scott Kriefall)
Date: 10 Jan 93 19:00:33 -0600
Organization: St. Cloud State Univ., MN

Can someone inform me of the FTP site for the Apple Emulator and related
disk images?  I seem to have misplaced this information...

skriefal@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu

Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: ayh@wdl1.wdl.loral.com (Ann Hopkins)
Subject: Reading Apple Disks On IBM
Followup-To: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Organization: Loral - WDL
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:09:24 GMT

I lost the original message to respond to, so here goes.

There was and may still be a way to read apple IIe disks on a 5 1/4" drive
on an IBM PC, but it is hardware based.

A company called Diamond (now famous for selling a high speed Windows Video
card), made boards called Trackstars; these were Apple IIe emulators.  The
board also had connections to the floppy drive allowing it read and run
disks.

My father has some old versions of the card which only run on CGA or
monochrome monitors, but the card is incompatible with some of the newer
peripheral boards.  The company may still sell the Trackstars; they were
supposed to have some boards which ran on VGA monitors as well.

FYI,
Ann Hopkins
From: vera@fanaraaken.Stanford.EDU (James S. Vera)
Subject: Re: FTP site for Emulator
Organization: Program Analysis and Verification Group, Stanford University
Date: 11 Jan 93 09:58:10 GMT

skriefal@eeyore.stcloud.msus.edu (Scott Kriefall) writes:

>Can someone inform me of the FTP site for the Apple Emulator and related
>disk images?  I seem to have misplaced this information...

wilbur.stanford.edu has the emulator and a small collection of disk
images.

James S. Vera       |         Internet         | Voice: +1.415.723.1089 
Stanford University |  vera@anna.stanford.edu  | FAX:   +1.415.725.7398



Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: darekm@microsoft.com (Darek Mihocka)
Subject: Re: looking for Atari emulators...
Date: 07 Jan 93 20:05:37 GMT
Organization: Microsoft Corporation

In article <goo.726387355@cwis> goo@cwis.unomaha.edu (Kent Radek) writes:
>Does anyone here know of any Atari 400/800 emulator(s) for PCs?

Two ways:

1) get Gemulator (the Atari ST emulator for the PC) then run ST Xformer
   (the Atari 400/800 emulator for the ST) on it. Essentially running
   an emulator on top of an emulator. Not recommended because it ends up
   running very slow and Gemulator doesn't fully support it. But you
   could try.

2) I'm working on a PC version of Xformer hopefully to be ready in about
   6 months. I demoed it at a few Atari shows in 1991 but it didn't
   receive much interest (8-bitter don't buy PCs???) so it's been a
   pretty low priority project. The speed figures I get now are about
   500% the speed of an Atari 400/800 on a 486/33.

What kind of stuff are you looking to run on it besides the obvious
case of disk based games?

- Darek

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Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: tombaker@world.std.com (Tom A Baker)
Subject: Re: FTP site for Emulator
Organization: Me, at The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Wed, 13 Jan 1993 04:17:14 GMT

In article <1993Jan11.192543.8496@cas.org> lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) writes:
>Anyone actually gone back the other way - from disk image back to disk?  I have

That needn't be that hard.  In case folks don't know, a .DSK is just
all the sectors of a DOS 3.3 disk in order: the first 256 bytes are
the first sector of the first track, etc ... up to the end of track 34.

I see that the Stamford archivist points out how one could do this with
the disk as a whole and nulib.  If one wants to do it a file at a time,
that wouldn't be so hard either.

>an Apple II at home, and Sparkee looks interesting.  I love ceemac and some
>new scripts would be a lot of fun (sure wish someone would write one
>of those for my SPARC at work!).

A ceemac enthusiast!  I'd love to see what has been produced since 1983
(the date of the newest file on the Sparkee disk, written in ceemac.)


tombaker@world.std.com
Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: goo@cwis.unomaha.edu (Kent Radek)
Subject: looking for Atari emulators...
Organization: University of Nebraska at Omaha
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 06:15:55 GMT

Does anyone here know of any Atari 400/800 emulator(s) for PCs?

After I showed my boss the Apple II emulator, he said he'd fire me if I didn't
get him an Atari emulator... :-)

goo

Newsgroups: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
From: lwv26@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Subject: Re: FTP site for Emulator
Followup-To: alt.emulators.ibmpc.apple2
Reply-To: lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden)
Organization: Nedriv Software and Shoe Shiners, Uninc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:21:53 GMT

Anyone actually gone back the other way - from disk image back to disk?  I have
an Apple II at home, and Sparkee looks interesting.  I love ceemac and some
new scripts would be a lot of fun (sure wish someone would write one
of those for my SPARC at work!).

Anyways, what would I need to do to get a disk image out of the .dsk file?

Normally, in the Apple world, we use a format (similar to Zoo or Arc) called
NuFX to store files or Disk images.  There is a MS-DOS compatible decoder
called nulib (it also compiles on Unix and I think VMS) which can extract
the data from the compressed archive.

For posting, there is this nifty Apple format called BinSCII .  The neat
thing is that one does not need to trim off News headers or sort the entries
into any particular order - the info needed is embedded in the first few bytes
of the encoded file so that the decoder (a program called sciibin - also
available for compiling on MS-DOS) can create the .SHK file properly.

I mention these so that folk could, if they wanted, look through the various
Apple II archives and perhaps get some interesting shareware or freeware
from those sources.
-- 
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From: welch@retina.cis.ohio-state.edu (Arun Welch)
Subject: Re: The Hypertext FAQ
Originator: welch@retina.cis.ohio-state.edu
Organization: OSU-LAIR
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 23:15:03 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.171449.1@hamp.hampshire.edu> dhirmes@hamp.hampshire.edu writes:

Nice FAQ. One change, though.

   NoteCards
   notes: developted at the Xerox Palo Alto Research Center.  Runs on Xerox
   Workstations under LISP.

This info is outdated. While NoteCards was developed at PARC, its now
a product of Venue. Company Info:

Venue
1549 Industrial Rd.
San Carlos, CA 94070
(415)-508-9672
(800)-228-5325
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NoteCards runs on the following architectures and OS's: Sun (SunOS),
SGI (IRIX), DECStation 3000/5000/Alpha (Ultrix and OSF/1), HP 7000
(HPUX), IBM RS/6000 (AIX), 386/486 (DOS and Interactive Unix), Xerox
1108/1109/1186 (Medley).

A demo version is available via ftp from ftp.oar.net:pub/vendor/anzus



   3.0 - Selected Bibliography

   3.1 Recommended


I'd also recommend Barret's other collection and Neilsen's book. I'll
dig up the full biblio entries. 

...arun
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