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From: mtrost@convex.com (Matthew Trost)
Subject: Re: Sportster rear suspension help request
Organization: CONVEX Computer Corporation, Richardson, Tx., USA
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:30:31 GMT
X-Disclaimer: This message was written by a user at CONVEX Computer
              Corp. The opinions expressed are those of the user and
              not necessarily those of CONVEX.

In <1992Jul23.201054.26167@meaddata.com> bmyers@meaddata.com (Bob Myers) writes:

>My '81 Sportster has now broken both rear turn signals (the chrome bulb,
>not the support) and both saddlebag supports (just below the bolt
>attachment.)  All parts were put on by me, and were fine for two to
>three weeks.  They were also all Custom Chrome equipment.
                                  ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Maybe this is your problem! A friend of mine (I like to think of him as one,
but I'm not sure) sold me a bunch of after market stuff. Not to knock
Custom Chrome or anything, I think what I got was acually Chrome Specialties.
I bought, footpegs, gearshift lever peg, battery cover, oil temp gauge, etc..

The footpegs vibrated, so I took them off. The shifter peg threads had to be
cut because they were hitting my primary cover, and then I had to run a die
across the threads to clean the chrome off so you could screw the thing in.
The oil temp gauge lens cracked the first week it was on the bike, and NO...
I did not drop it, like my "friend" accused me of. The first time I checked
my oil sinse installing this piece of pure junk, the "stainless" steel
ring/housing came off the rubber. A month later, it rusted and looked like
shit!!! I removed it and bought one for $28. at Harley, and worth every penny,
and haven't had a problem with it since. (the old one I used to plug the
oil fill hole when I painted the oil tank, which is all it is good for)
I could go on and on about all the hacking, drilling, bending, grinding,
filing, and cussing you will experience if you choose to buy 2nd rate
accessories for your scoot. (I have I boxfull I took off) And what do you
have.....? A bike that looks cheap, tinny, and rattles. Almost every
item I bought as after-market, I have had problems with.

I learned my lesson! I won't put that JUNK on my bike. (I'm sure there
are some good venders, but I haven't found any)
From: stets@stets.novalis.public.sub.org (Thomas Stets)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Harley prices
Distribution: world
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 15:59:30 GMT
Organization: Just me.

I'm considering to buy a Harley. The problem is: here in Germany
they're too expensive.

Some Examples: 1200 Sportster, 3 years old, 10000 mls, about $10000
               Springer Softail, 1 year, 1500 mls, about $18000
(using a $/DM exchange-rate of 1$ = 1.50DM)

So I thought maybe it's a good idea just to make a trip to the US,
have a nice 2-week vacation, try to find a decent Harley in that time,
ship it back to good ol' Germany and (that's the hardest part)
try to get it thru technial inspection (TUEV).

But before I continue with my plans I'd like to know what I have to
pay for a Harley over there. A lot of people tell me that the prices are
low, and quite a few seem to make good money by buying used motorcyles
in the US and selling them here. But I need some more facts.

So if anyone in the US can give me an estimation what I'd have to
pay for a used 1200 Sportster, a Fat Boy or a Springer Softail,
please send me a mail.

  Thanks in advance

 Thomas Stets

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Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
From: bcasper@eos.ncsu.edu (Brian Casper)
Subject: Re: Sportster rear suspension help request
Originator: bcasper@c00100-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu
Reply-To: bcasper@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: North Carolina State University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 18:35:11 GMT


In article <1992Jul23.201054.26167@meaddata.com>, bmyers@meaddata.com (Bob Myers) writes:
[Story of parts breaking and falling off...]
|>I know I've got something on the order of a vibration problem, but I
|>can't imagine what it is.  Vibration through the seat seems normal, and
|>the engine/tranny/chain are all fine (tuned/lubed/replaced this spring.)
|>The rear fender bolts are all tight, and aligned properly.

Take a close look at your motor mounts and the frame in the area where they
are.  If you're getting that much vibration, I would suspect that you've
either got some loose bolts down there, or some fractured metal.

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bcasper@eos.ncsu.edu        |    good insight into what rats are thinking."
  Pinball Consultant        |     -  Dr. Oscar Wesler
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
From: paulb@harley.tti.com (Paul Blumstein)
Subject: Re: HD carb for 'other' motorcyle
Keywords: Carbs
Organization: Bit Herders International
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 16:55:16 GMT

In article <txd.711816291@Able.MKT.3Com.Com> txd@ESD.3Com.COM (Tom Dietrich) writes:
+
+The Mikuni 40mm on my Sporty came from Mikuni America. Yes, it's a
+Japanese design, but the factory and support is in America.
+
+By the way, they make carbs for a num ber os different bikes, all come
+in kits with manifolds and throttles.

I've been to Mikuni America on a number of occasions.  The carbs are
made in Japan.  It is packaged here.  The engineering of making an
existing carb "fit" a new product is done here.  They have a dyno
and engineers and International sales force here.

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         Transaction Technology, Inc., Santa Monica, CA
From: paul@phx.mcd.mot.com (Paul Bell)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: HD carb for 'other' motorcyle
Keywords: Carbs
Date: 17 Jul 92 18:25:21 GMT
Organization: Motorola Computer Group, Austin, TX.

In article <1992Jul16.115333.869@msus1.msus.edu> Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John) writes:
>in msg 562 rxkgre@minyos.xx.rmit.oz.au (Geof Evans) said:
>>***> Hey before you go...I could use a Harley fix for my bike.
>>     I want to put an S.U. or similar on it but don't know where
>>     to start wit da jetting. The bike is a Yamaha XV-1000/RH
>                        
>                              If I had any bike with a
>CV (constant velocity) carb, I'd want to change, too.  I'd not go
>with an S.U. for that reason.  If you want a good start, try the
>40mm Delorto slider.  I think Riveria Engineering still sells them.

How 'bout elaborating about the advantages of different carbs on big twins?
For example, what does "Constant Velocity" really mean?  What's S.U. ?
I'd also like to know if Delorto is American-made.
The only 40mm I'd heard of before is Jap. (Mikuni or Mikuno?)

I'm also wondering if anyone has any experience with after-market
fuel-injection set-ups for HD.

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Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
From: pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn)
Subject: Re: The Best
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 17:11:33 GMT
Reply-To: Pooder@vnet.ibm.com, but I can't receive e-mail, so forget it. 
Disclaimer: This posting represents the poster's views, not necessarily those of IBM
Organization: IBM Rochester

In article <sallyg.68@oregon.uoregon.edu>, sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally) writes:

|> O.K., O.K.  So my finger got on the wrong key (I must admit that was  
|> stupid).  I'll try again . . . HARVEY'S GOT TO REST!  There, now I feel 
|> better!!!
|> 
|> Sal

Geeze, Sal, I didn't know I was pushin' 'im so hard.  And I rarely ask 'im
to go faster than 40.  What's he askin' for, shorter hours or lower speeds?
Or maybe smaller loads?  I did ask 'im to haul groceries yesterday and he 
didn't complain, but he's like that - doesn't say much unless things get 
really bad.

I feel so guilty for abusing poor old Harv.

-- 

    Pooder    -    Rochester,  MN   -   DoD# 0591  (I think)   -  LotN 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Quid tibi (est) opiniones aliorum: What do you care what other people think?
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------
   I share garage space with:   Gretchen - '86 K75   Harvey - '72 CB500 
 ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
From: sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally)
Subject: Re: The Best
Organization: University of Oregon
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 13:50:15 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.123214.11669@rchland.ibm.com> pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn) writes:

>In article <1992Jul29.173518.943@msus1.msus.edu>, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John) writes:
>|> Pooder, speaking in the wrong group says again:
>|> . . .  
>|>
>|>                                                       Isn't this
>|> alt.motorcycles.HARLEY?
>|> 
>|> . . . 
>|> 
>|> TAKE IT TO REC.MOTORCYCLES, pooder.
>|> 

>Ha!  Well, then, *who* started this, I'd like to know?  NOT ME! Who said,
>" Just wanted to post to AGAIN say, 'Harvey's the BEST.'?" "George,
>Sally", that's who!

>Oh.  It was,  "Just wanted to post to AGAIN say, 'Harleys are the BEST.'"??
>                                                  ^^^^^^^
>Oops.  Nevermind.


>Well, someday when I get a round tuit, I'll have e-mail access and a 
>Harley sharing my garage space.  Until then I will continue to lurk here.


> Pooder - Rochester, MN - DoD# 0591 (I think) - LotN (Loser of the Number) 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Quid tibi (est) opiniones aliorum: What do you care what other people think?
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>   I share garage space with:   Gretchen - '86 K75   Harvey - '72 CB500 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>Wanted: 1950's Harley Davidson motorcycle in rideable, restorable condition
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

Pooder,  Keep on posting . . . 

Sal
From: bae@Auspex.COM (Brian Ehrmantraut)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: HD carb for 'other' motorcyle
Keywords: Carbs
Date: 22 Jul 92 04:16:44 GMT

In article <1992Jul17.182521.25555@phx.mcd.mot.com>, paul@phx.mcd.mot.com (Paul Bell) writes:
> What's S.U. ?

	Satan's Utensil.
	
	A type of carburetor designed to steal your soul...


-- 
		Brian A. Ehrmantraut

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Organisation: European Space Technology Centre (E.S.T.E.C)
Date: Monday, 27 Jul 1992 13:23:49 CET
From: Michael Kasper <MKASPER@ESTEC.BITNET>
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: rent a bike

Does anybody know a bike rental company, preferably HD, near Montreal Internati
onal Airport?
We need two bikes, just from Friday, 31st July until Sunday 2nd August.
Please send me the fax number, if you have any idea.

My Fax no.: ** 31171984694
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Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
From: viking@iastate.edu (Dan Sorenson)
Subject: Re: pOODER, you blew it again.
Organization: Iowa State University, Ames IA
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 06:42:47 GMT

In <1992Jul28.223606.935@msus1.msus.edu> stafford@msus1.msus.edu writes:

>	Hey, I live only
>	40 miles from you.  I'm tempted to check you out. Maybe
>	that bike you got is all in your head, like
>	another vaporware product.  Pooder up, dude.

>	What say, DoD, is it worth the trip?


	Well, if it's in a cage I don't think so.  If it's on a bike,
it's _always_ worth the ride.  Big difference between a ride and a trip.

<Dan Sorenson, DoD #1066 |"There'll be angels on Ariels in leather>
<z1dan@exnet.iastate.edu | and chrome, Ridin' down from heaven    >
<viking@iastate.edu      | just to carry me home." -- R. Thompson >
< ISU thinks I need more education, which they provide for a fee. >


Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
From: markk@tcsi.tcs.com (Mark Kromer)
Subject: Re: Satan's Utensil
Originator: markk@rigel
Organization: Teknekron Communications Inc.
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 1992 23:53:43 GMT



carlp@frigg.isc-br.com (Carl Paukstis) writes:
>>BTW, SU _really_ stands for Skinner's Union, the English company that makes 
>>them.

>Stromberg Union.
^^^^^^^^^

No, it is Skinner Union.  I have a pair of them on my 71 240Z (far
superior to those cheezy Hitachi copys that came on the later models).
Stromberg is a different company altogether, they do make CV carbs,
however.

- )V(ark)<    [markk@tcs.com  TCSI Berkeley, CA USA]
From: mulman@hmcvax.claremont.edu (Mike Ulman)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: The Best
Date: 27 Jul 92 22:18:09 GMT
Organization: Harvey Mudd College

In article <sallyg.68@oregon.uoregon.edu>, sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally) writes:
> In article <1992Jul21.194522.19397@rchland.ibm.com> pooder@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Don Fearn) writes:
> 
>>In article <sallyg.62@oregon.uoregon.edu>, sallyg@oregon.uoregon.edu (George, Sally) writes:
>>|> Just wanted to post to AGAIN say, "Harvey's the BEST."
>>|> 
>>|> Sal
> 
>>Sal, how nice of you to say so; he'll be so pleased to hear it!
> 
>>-- 
> 
>>    Pooder    -    Rochester,  MN   -   DoD# 0591  (I think)   -  LotN 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>Quid tibi (est) opiniones aliorum: What do you care what other people think?
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>   I share garage space with:   Gretchen - '86 K75   Harvey - '72 CB500 
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> O.K., O.K.  So my finger got on the wrong key (I must admit that was  
> stupid).  I'll try again . . . HARLEYS ARE THE BEST!  There, now I feel 
> better!!!
> 
> Sal


As a student at Harvey Mudd College I agree that Harvey's the best. As a person
dreaming of riding a Harley I can also say that Harley's the best.  Can't say
I've ever met Gretchen however.

Mike

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From: bcasper@eos.ncsu.edu (Brian Casper)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Why just HARLEY ? !!!
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:51:14 GMT
Reply-To: bcasper@eos.ncsu.edu
Organization: North Carolina State University
Originator: bcasper@c00100-100lez.eos.ncsu.edu


In article <1992Jul28.060305.6752@nuscc.nus.sg>, ccesea@nuscc.nus.sg (See Eng Ann (Mr)) writes:
|>Can't understand why there is only one group "alt.motorcycles.harley"
|>for motorcycles.  
|>
|>I owned not just a harley, but also a Voyager, a GoldWing, a Phaser and
|>two Ventura.  I AM A ROAD-RIDER.  I got great things to talk about those
|>other GREAT machines besides just the Harley.  
|>
|>Any guys/gals out there feel that there should be a new group on just
|>"alt.motorcycles" so talk about the great adventures of these other
|>GIANTS.  


You could try rec.motorcycles, but you'd better take an Evlynwood speed-reading
course first and bring along an aesbestos suit if you're going to subscribe.




Actually, this is somewhat unfair...  r.moto is a _lot_ of fun if you have the
time.  There are some really nice regulars over there and they can be both
helpful and informative - if you can stand the traffic.
-- 
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Brian Casper                |   "I like to study psychologists.  It gives
bcasper@eos.ncsu.edu        |    good insight into what rats are thinking."
  Pinball Consultant        |     -  Dr. Oscar Wesler
From: reeder@mailhub.scf.lmsc.lockheed.com (Boyd Reeder)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: AN ENLIGHTENED ....
Date: 22 Jul 92 05:26:14 GMT
Distribution: CA
Organization: LMSC Santa Cruz


		Well I had a feeling that I was going to be pleasantly
		suprised but I had no idea!!!!!!!!!!

		Yuo see a friend of mine let me use his 1987 FLT
		last week because I told him I was thinking of 
		getting one next year when my BMW is paid off.
		
		WELL NEEDLESS TO SAY I AM IN LOVE.
		What a joy to drive. I'm wordless...I want one....
		NOW...but I have to wait.

		So any of you who have an '87 or newer FLT and
		just have to upgrade to a newer etc.
		email me!!!!!!!!


				thanx
					boyd
From: ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Peter A. Simon)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: net screw-up?
Date: 22 Jul 92 20:04:27 GMT
Organization: Senior, Civil Engineering, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Yesterday I went to read netnews.alt.motorcycles.harley and got a
message saying  it had been disbanded and did i want to unsubscribe.  i
said yes, figuring it would be re-incarnated after the vote.

This afternoon I went to read netnews.alt.motorcycles and was told "2
messages, 0 new."  the latest message is:

Subject: netnews.alt.motorcycles.harley (new message group)
From: mtrost@convex.com (Matthew Trost)
Subject: Re: Glad to see it Here
Date: 23 Jan 92 16:15:08 GMT
 
 
 
A new message group, netnews.alt.motorcycles.harley, has been created as a subd
irectory of this message group.
 
A copy of the first message in the new group is reproduced below.
 
If it interests you, you may want to subscribe to the new message group.
 
============================================================================
 
>>ain't Hogs cool?
 
>yes.
 
Sportsters too!
 
>>love to ride them in the snow.
 
>never tried!
 
I'll wait for a side car, thank-you!
 
>>you just put a big hairy knobby 'skin on the rear any away you go!
 
>sounds like fun, although i might prefer a sidehack the first few times.
					    ^^^^^^^^
And I thought *I* was nuts ! (is that a sidecar?)
 
>>sling stones at the BMW's.
 
>uh, cars, right?
 
BAD 'TUDES, DUDES !!!!
>>Ciao!
 
>ah! you like italian bikes, too!  excellent.

All the stuff i read (and posted) to netnews.alt.motorcycle yesterday is
gone!  Netnews.alt.motorcycle.harley, on the other hand, has been
magically revived, with 19 messages dating from July 14 to today (July
22)  Is this happening at my end only?  Is it happening anywhere else? 
What happened to the 1200+ messages from yesterday?  Why is the only
message on netnews.alt.motorcycle addressed to
netnews.alt.motorcycle.harley?

HELP!!!

Gratefully yours,


-peter

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From: grant@panhed.psc.edu (Shirl Grant)
Newsgroups: alt.motorcycles.harley
Subject: Re: Why just HARLEY ? !!!
Date: 28 Jul 1992 13:45:56 -0500
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



>Any guys/gals out there feel that there should be a new group on just
>"alt.motorcycles" so talk about the great adventures of these other
>GIANTS.  

And exactly what do you think alt.motorcycles is for?

-SunShine
Newsgroups: alt.support
From: ben@media.mit.edu (Benjamin Kline Lowengard)
Subject: My adjustments
Organization: MIT Media Laboratory
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 14:33:22 GMT

Hello folks,

I'm in unfamiliar territory and am trying very hard to figure out how to 
cope with a problem. I have a very close friend in recovery for a variety
of situations. Alanon, OA and analysis are helping this person's adjustment.
I have supported each step forward, and have encouraged these monumental
changes in both of our lives. Things seemed to be getting better for us,our
bond growing stronger. All of a sudden-I was shut down. No explanation, a
brief moment of "I love you but don't contact me, get on with your life.",
the times contact was made-and this was before that ultimatum-I could tell
there was more to this than I could fathom. I'm doing my best, but it's
very very painful. Love is not something I take for granted, nor think of in
completely selfish terms.The only explanation I come up with is that my friend 
started a program in Co-depedancy. Yet I know nothing about this.It's
funny(not) but we used to discuss how families and relationships can get
broken up through the trauma drawn from evaluating oneself in Recovery
Programs. I never thought I would go through what I am now going through.
 In all honesty, I do love this person-enough to respect and support even
these abrupt changes-though the loss of this friendship,the confusion I
have,and mostly, the absence of communication is extremely painful. Though
the initial shock is over, I am still uncomfortable. I have help and other
encouraging friends yet I still am wondering about co-dependancy. 
Your response, either public(since this is a forum) or private would be
greatly appreciated.

-Thanks
-ben
From: murphyg@Software.Mitel.COM (Gary Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.support
Subject: Re: I need some advice...
Date: 29 Jul 92 13:10:47 GMT
Organization: Applications Software II, MITEL Corporation, Kanata, Ontario,
	Canada
In-reply-to: news@fornax.ECE.CMU.EDU's message of 28 Jul 92 17:21:24 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.172124.13172@fs7.ece.cmu.edu> news@fornax.ECE.CMU.EDU (USENET News System) writes:

   Hello All: 	 My question is this: Do I say something now or wait
   until she get's back? Or should I run like hell becasue of the meeting
   thing? The grind is there are many things I like about her and I hate to
   blow a chance.  	 Thanks 		 g

Like the Nike ads say: Go for it.

What do you have to lose, really?  So what if it fails!  (Try trying to
fail, that way, if it succeeds, you fail, and if it fails ... ;-) )

Nothing is guaranteed.  Not even your next breath.  Some 20,000 years
ago, a large meteor or comet or something Very Big came out of the
morning sky a tore a big chunk out of the surface of South America.
Even today, we would not have a chance of seeing it more than 10 minutes
ahead of time.  You are alive NOW.  Be thankful, and live.

--
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