From: jrm3a@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU (Jonathan Moll)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.amiga.advocacy
Subject: Amiga Whiners
Date: 29 Jul 92 22:27:46 GMT
Organization: University of Virginia
Originator: jrm3a@cyclops.micr.Virginia.EDU

Mike Whalen writes:

>I think we should turn this one around on Commodore. I don't care if it
>took a syndicated newspaper article to wake up Commodore or IF they think
>everything is ok..
>
>It's NOT alright!
>
>I am sick of hearing Commodore when they come under serious criticism. That
>does NOTHING for us. I feel like I have wasted $1000 on this blasted
>computer because I can't do crap with it that anyone will take notice and
>say, Hey that's cool.
>

Ya know I always thought computers were tools to do work and have fun
with for one's own PERSONAL enjoyment/productivity.  Hence the name
Personal Computer.  If the only reason you own a computer is to turn
somebody elses head, you have wasted your $1000.  Each and every one
of us makes his or her system(s) useful, and you get out of your computer
exactly what you put into it.  Your lack of satisfaction doesn't come
from Commodore Business Machine, it's a little closer to home for all of
us.

>
>People think it's dead because Commodore says nothing. When they do say
>something it's always, "We're going to announce something at this next
>show." Yeah, right.. please get a life Commodore!
>
>I am personally sick and tired of carrying your weight. I have run out of
>things to recommend the Amiga for because it's not going anywhere. 
>

Don't worry about carrying their weight, that is something best left to
them.  Uh Oh  SECOND POINT!  Why does every CBM/Amiga whiner think they
know how to run a multi-million dollar business?  Oops, sorry CBM, "billion"
dollar business.  Unless you have run as far as CBM/Apple/IBM, you are
blowing hot air (Arggh, Listerine!!!!)

>
>Let's TURN THIS BUGGER AROUND ON THEM!
>
>I mean it! If Commodore won't listen to us, then maybe Mr. Robinson will.

Mr. Robinson's article is simply calling the kettle black kiddies!  Our
computer purchase's have instant depreciation/death/obsolete stamped on
the rear cover.  (What you haven't looked!  Its right under the Serial Num.)

You can't measure a computer's value through material comparision.  I don't
mean to sound Zen, but the value of your system comes from YOU.

>Maybe if he gets enough responses from us saying, "No, everything is NOT
>alright. Commodore is lying to you as much as they is lying to us." Then
>maybe he will listen to us before Commodore because WE buy the machines. We
>support it. We advertise the bloody thing! 
>

You certainly don't seem to be supporting it now.  What software/hardware/
upgrade/consulting work have you done to support it?  And having done all
of the above support what terrible catastrophe turned you down this dark
path, Luke?  (Besides your obvious "do other people approve" insecurity)

>
>If it destroys the Amiga.. when then it's Commodore's fault. Not ours. We
>have done our part and now it's time to start hitting Commodore with some
>force. It's not right for us to shed thousands of dollars into our machines
>that are pitiful excuses for upgrades from previous machines.
>
>Like I said, if the Amiga dies.. it dies. That's in Commodore's hands. We
>can show people the EuroDemos and talk about how cool it is.. but when Joe
>Amiga Fan is sitting at his home and he can't get any help from Commodore
>or he reads articles that says it's dead.. he is NOT going to buy one.
>Forget it. We can only do so much. Commodore has to advertise. Commodore
>has to better it's relationships with the dealers. That's just not in our
>hands.
>
>Jeez. This is so rediculous. I can't believe they want us to lie for them
>now. Everything it NOT alright.
>
>Call or WRITE Mr. Robinson and tell him, "No! Everything is NOT alright. We
>as Amiga fans are sick of this."

Sick of this, sick of that WE WON'T TAKE IT NO MORE RALPHIE!  Well toddle
off and come up with some definite constructive criticisim, then Howl to
us :)  And Mr. Robbie, too!  (Not just you Mike, but all you Amiga whiners!)

Better yet, since the computer is sitting there, solve the inadequacy
yourself!  If you really need it that bad! 

>
>Do it now.
>
>Mike.. 

Just Do It <Nike commercial I saw two weeks ago in the Florida Everglades>

JM - "I can't reach the mush because of this damned white jacket!!"
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