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From: 900667c@ace.acadiau.ca (GERALD RICHARD CAMERON)
Subject: Re: Revised Halifax card.
Organization: Acadia University
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 18:43:45 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.204700.8988@ac.dal.ca> jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves) writes:

>After the Warrior and Bulldog are axed, the Halifax card, which was
>horrible to start out, gets worse!
>
>Halifax Metro Centre, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada: December 12, 1992
>
>Bossman (not Warrior) vs Nailz
>Hacksaw (not Bulldog) vs Kamala
>Tatanka vs Martel
>Crush vs Berserker
>High Energy vs Beverly Brothers
>El Matador vs Terry Taylor
>Lance Cassidy vs Skinner

Halifax doesn't exactly get grade A cards most of the time as it is, but 
this has to be the worst here ever (at least based on matchup, I haven't 
actually gone top a card here yet, although some friends of mine are trying 
to talk me into it).  *sigh* when will people realize how great the 
Maritimes are.

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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: New Japan on 11/23
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Mon, 23 Nov 1992 17:38:30 GMT

News from CompuServe/NiftyServe...

New Japan had the cards two days in a row at Sumo Hall on 22nd and 23rd.
I've already posted the results of some matches from 22nd ealrlier, so let me
put the results from 23rd.

The debut of the New Road Warriors:
   Hawk & Power  beat  Riki Choshu & Hiroshi Hase
   Power(Kensuke Sasaki) pinned Hase

NWA World Heavyweight Title Match:
   Masahiro Chono pinned Scott Steiner to retain the title

New Japan VS WAR 6-men tag match:
   WAR Team: Genichiro Tenryu  beat  The Skinheads: Kengo Kimura
             Takashi Ishikawa                       Shiro Koshinaka
             Tatsumi Kitahara                       Masashi Aoyagi
   Tenryu pinned Kimura


Choshu VS Teryu will be announced for the 1/4 Egg Dome show. The winner will 
face Antone Inoki later next year. So, expected Tenryu is gonna win.
The rest of the New Japan wrestlers will probably have the matches with the
"honorable guests" from WCW since this was announced as the combined show.

My guesess for the other matches are the New Road Warriors will challenge 
Scott Norton & Tony Halme for the IWGP tag title and Shinya Hashimoto will
challenge Ron Simmmons for the WCW title. Inoki and Hulk Hogan will team up
if they can get Hogan signed.

I hope they put something like Muto & Chono VS Sting & Rude or Muta & Sting
VS Chono & Rude. Then again, Chono will probably defend his NWA world title
against someone from WCW(I'd guess it's gonna be either Sting or Vader).  
Ashura Hara(WAR) VS Animal Hamaguchi will be interesting as well.

I think neither unification matches(Chono-Simmons or Chono-Takada) will take
place.

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University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas
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From: rela@beach.csulb.edu (Robie Elizabeth La)
Subject: Re: Lotsa news
Organization: Cal State Long Beach
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:50:35 GMT

In article <4108.137.uupcb@ssr.com> dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer)  writes:
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   Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
   Date: 14 Nov 92 16:48:00 GMT
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>   I realized that fans pay good money and should be allowed to yell and
>   scream at the characters, and it is fine if they do so.  However, the
>   character, Macho Man, made no public announcement that he and Elizabeth
>   were divorcing and it is, again in my opinion, in poor taste to abuse
>   someone about something that is obviously personally painful to him.
   ---

Actually, I was looking at the recent issue of the WWF magazine in Hollywood
today and in the first section, there is a "note" from Savage stating that he
and Elizabeth have divorced.  Said he didn't want to keep anything from his
fans.  Now I suppose that everyone, marks and kiddies alike, will know what
we've known here for a long time.

I just wonder why Vince would admit something like this, since he tries to keep
everything else a secret.  Aside from the almighty dollar, I just speculated
that he was doing this so people would feel sorry for Savage and go see him
and...oh wait, that still deals with his pocketbook, doesn't it?

In homage to the great urn,


The Grand Pooh-bah
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: marine@ils.nwu.edu (Colette Marine)
Subject: Re: The most attractive woman in wrestling
Keywords: Best looking woman
Organization: The Institute for the Learning Sciences
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 08:58:40 GMT

***** Posting from a friend's account *****

>
>Hey, glad someone agrees with me!  Hollywood and Thunder were the two
>reasons I sat through any GLOW show.  Wonder what happened to all these
>people when GLOW folded (I'm pretty sure Tiffany Mellon became a porn
>star, but have now idea about the rest.)
> 
Some of the better ones went to POWW (Powerful Women of Wrestling), which
emphasized working a bit more than gimmicks.  GLOW's Tina Ferrari became champ
of POWW under the name Nina...California Doll (YUM YUM YUM SLURP SLURP!!) 
lost the airhead gimmick and became Malibu.  Now SHE was hot.

Wiping up memory-induced drool,
Jared D. Brame



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From: cs921037@ariel.yorku.ca (RON E BARNETT)
Subject: Re: Hogan at SS??
Originator: cs921037@m01.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Distribution: york
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 23:06:12 GMT


In article <1e4f7gINNblm@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu>, aa519@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scotty Meredith) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> Look for Hogan to tag with Warior at SS.  At the end of SNME, Heanon was on
>> the phone, saying he had late breaking news.  He said Savage and UW wont be
>> comming to the ring together.  One of them will have a new partner.  Gee, I
>> wonder who that could be??  Lugar?  Nope.  Who else??
>> 
>> -- 
>> Yes, it is true, I -AM- a scanner listener.  You are violating my air
>> space, while you are puffing away on your cigarette, talking on your
>> cellular phone.  First you complain about smokers rights, then you complain
>> when I listen to your phone conversations??!! THis is my air too bub!!  -ME


Don't you mean Hogan to tag with Savage, what with Warrior being fired and all.
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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Reminder: Clash of Champi
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 07:23:24 GMT

dave.scherer%acc1bbs@ssr.com (Dave Scherer)  writes:

>I am at the end of my rope with WCW.  That Clash was the most pathetic,
>idiotic, and poorly worked card of wrestling matches that WCW has ever
>done.  Watts is clueless.  Sound the bell.  WCW is dead.

WCW is dead. We all will see the final proof on the Starcade's Chono-Muta
match, I mean if someone's gonna buy the PPV.  Amen.
-- 
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University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
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From: fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp)
Subject: Superstars of Wrestling
Keywords: Update
Organization: Purdue University
Date: Sat, 21 Nov 1992 17:51:33 GMT

  Show starts with the world title match between Bret Hart and Virgil.
Commentating are McMahon and Bobby Heenen.  McMahon does mot of the talking
since Heenen is flabbergasted over Mr. Perfect's announcement of joining with
Savage.  After going back and forth, Bret gets Virgil in the sharpshooter
and gets him to submit.  Several handshakes during the match.  McMahon says
Bret defends his belt a lot, Heenen says that his freqency of title defenses
will hurt him.  McMahon mentions Bret beat the Berserker, Papa Shango, Da
Mountie, and Ric Flair.

  Survivor Series Special Report:  Show Prime Time when Randy Savage suggested
to Mr. Perfect to join them, then Perfect and Heenen laughing.  That is all
they showed from Prime Time, no phone conversation, no Perfect & Heenen
arguing.  Instead they go to Mene Gene interviewing Rany Savage and Mr. Perfect.
Both openly say that they don't like the other and that the other is lucky
they never met in the ring.  In the end, the both say "dig it!" look at
each other, back to the camera, then Perfect looks at Savage again.

  Yokozuma vs jobber.  McMahon says that Yokozuma has an open contract for
the Survivor Series.  Yokozuma wins with Earthquake from the second rope.

  Update with Lord Alfred Hayes: Show Shawn Michaels beating Bulldog for the
IC belt, Hart winning over Papa Shango, and Hart interview after the match 
when he and Michaels yelled at each other.  The IC match will be shown in
its entirety on Survivor Series Showdown on USA Sunday.

  Believe it or not, all the previous took the first half hour of the show.

  Natural Disasters vs Jobbers.  ND with Earthquake and splash.  I believe that

  Survivor Series Update: New match, High Energy will job for the Headshrinkers,
interview with Flair & Ramon with Flair so pissed he didn't say whooooo.

  Bam Bam Bigelow is coming next week.  Vince also there would be Bam Bam
at Survivor Series.  Not sure what he meant by this, excitement or if Bigelow
would show up (and lets all save bandwidth and not post how there is never
excitement at WWF PPV's).

  Lance Cassidy vs Barry Horowitz.  Back and forth match.  Lance wins with
a clothesline from the top rope that barely reached Mr. Horowitz.

  Undertaker displays the coffin he made for Kamala.  No word on next week's
matches.
From: Andy@Birdland.UUCP (Andy Patrizio)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Perfect turns!
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:30:43 EST
Reply-To: uunet!tension!birdland!andy
 <visser.722054060@convex.convex.com>
Keywords: Henning face wimpy
Summary: You got that right
Expires: never
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In article <visser.722054060@convex.convex.com>, Lance Visser writes:

> 	In the opinion of some people anyway, it was Greg Gagne that was 
> the Heel.  Little Gregge turned on Curt at the ten-team tag team tournament
> I think.
> 	Before that, Henning had Scott Hall as a tag partner for a while.
> I never really thought much of him in the AWA before his turn.  He was
> just another wimpy face without a personality (ala Brunzell, Martel, 
> Zumhoff, Zenk....).
> 

Yeah, I agree with ya. What always cracked me up was the interviews with
his old man "Iron" Mike Gilbert, who still played the monster heel even
though he looked like Kriss Kringle. He was better as a heel.

Maybe the face turn is simply because faces tend to show off more talent
and wrestling than heels (witness Shawn Michaels. Stomp kick stomp kick. He
can do better than that), and Vince wants to get wants to lose the 'roided
monster look. Replacing UW with Henning? Kinda says it all.

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From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Subject: Re: Info please
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 03:37:32 GMT

bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij) writes:

>I recently came across a wrestling video entitled "World Pro
>Wrestling From Japan - Volume 1."  Which has me asking some
>questions.  It contained the following matches:

>1.  Jimmy Snuka & Samu the Samoan vs. Akira Maeda vs Osamu Kimura
                                                      ~~~~~ ~~~~~~
That's Osamu Kido. I guess it was printed on the package. 

>The matches were (badly) edited and Gordon Solie did the voice over
>as well as opening and ending pieces in a wrestling ring in an
>empty auditorium.  The package states that the promoter was 
>New Japan Pro Wrestling.  There were a couple of matches from IWGP 
>and possibly one match from All Japan.  The Video had a 1987 
>copyright which appears to be held by 'Dusty Woods Entertainment Co.'
>but the matches were copyrighted by Asahi National Broadcasting.
>Does anybody know anything about this video and can put it into
>the context of wrestling history?

'86 or '87, but not sure.  I've seen the package of the video few years ago.
All these matches are from New Japan.  IWGP stands for Int'l Wrestling
Grand Prix and is not the name of a promotion.  Asahi is the TV station
that carries New Japan's weekly TV show "World Pro-Wrestling."

Solie did that?  He's good for the US wrestling, but I don't think I want him
for the Japanese matches...

Sounds like the worst video for the Japanese wrestling.

-- 
Hisaharu Tanabe                 E-Mail : hit@sol.acs.unt.edu
University of North Texas                htanabe@world.std.com (if in Japanese)
Denton,Texas
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From: jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Questions...
Date: 17 Nov 92 23:30:22 -0400
Organization: Dalhousie University, Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

> 2) Does anyone know anything about the rumor that there are two Ultimate
> Warriors? This may sound strange, but one is supposed to bigger teeth.

AAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!

Post the FAQ... PLEASE someone post the FAQ!

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From: cadesjar@lambert.uwaterloo.ca (Curtis Desjardins)
Subject: Re: Henning to team with Savage ??
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:00:19 GMT

In article <1992Nov19.174312.3011@rayssd.ssd.ray.com> sgm@sgfb.ssd.ray.com (Steve Myerson) writes:
>>Lastly, Now that Savage and Henning are teamed-up, what will they call
>>themselves ?? obviously the "Ultimate Maniacs" does not fit them
>
>It's too bad Henning and UW aren't teaming up.
>They could be called "Ultimate Perfection",
>and it doesn't get any better than that.

Hennig and Savage: "Perfectly Macho"

(oh shit, what did I just say --- VINCE! Use that expression and you're
 a dead man!)

========================= Fluffy the Wonder Bunny ============================
 "You bought the cow after I got all the milk for nothing! And at 12 o'clock
  she was knocking on my door saying, `Nature Boy! I wanna ride Space Moun-
  tain AGAIN!'"		- Slick Ric to Savage re: that slut Elizabeth ;-)
================== cadesjardins@descartes.waterloo.edu =======================
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: swhst1+@pitt.edu (Steven W Herer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: CoC-Starcade Drawing
Date: 16 Nov 92 04:38:07 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh

>THere's the same chance of Tully Blanchard coming back and Buzz Sawyer
>being raised from the grave (by Shango?)
>

What has happened to Tully Blanchard?  Anyone know out there?  Also I seem to
remember his father Joe running a federation in Texas sometime back; any word
on him?  Thanks in advance,
		Steve Herer
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From: hekunze@jeeves.uwaterloo.ca (Herb Kunze)
Subject: Scorpio
Organization: University of Waterloo
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:18:01 GMT

For those that missed it, Robbie Walker didn't work the Clash.
Ron Simmons came out with a mystery partner, with nobody supplying
his name (leading to messy commentary).  To get over, his partner
did a body block over the top rope onto all three heels right at
the start.  

His partner was eventually identified as Too Cold Scorpio.  This
is Charles Skaggs, who works for UWA as Black Scorpio and has
worked New Japan tours as Flying Scorpio.

                                                         Herb...
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Perfect turns!
From: sir@vax1.mankato.msus.edu (Shadow's Master)
Date: 17 Nov 92 08:56:40 -0600
Organization: Mankato State University

In article <1992Nov16.224900.2742@bvc.edu>, szemkusmarkw@bvc.edu writes:
> 
> 	How about that!!  Never in my life did I think perfect would ever 
> become a "good guy."  That was probably the best primetime that has been 
> out in a long time.  
> 	For once, a WWF event should prove to be half decent, even if they 
> did take out all of the "real" survivor series matches.  I can see it 
> now,.... the battle of the egos....
> 	Oh, and I especially liked it when the Diamond Studd, oops, I mean 
> Razor Ramon kept calling Perfect a "bad guy" and telling him to stay in 
> line, or something to that point.  This should turn out to be quite a fued, 
> Slick Ric vs. Perfect.  Woooooooo!
> 
> 		- The Hairfarmer
> 

er... for those of us who didn't get to watch primetime due to other
obligations (like work) what exactly happened?

-- 
mp                                                

insanity builds character, sometimes more than one
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
From: cs921037@ariel.yorku.ca (RON E BARNETT)
Subject: Re: Savage's Mystery Partner
Originator: cs921037@t02.ariel.yorku.ca
Organization: York University, Toronto, Canada
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 21:56:39 GMT


In article <mjenkins.721959330@cunews>, mjenkins@alfred.carleton.ca (Michael Jenkinson) writes:
>> In <1992Nov16.003657.8919@ac.dal.ca> jsteeves@ac.dal.ca (Jason Steeves) writes:
>> 
>> 
>> >IMHO, the ideal option for Vince to choose would be the guy that he
>> >wants to get over, but most of the fans aren't familiar with: Bob Backlund!
>> 
>> I'd like to see that happen, but I don't think it's likely. 
>> 
>> It strikes me as a big risk for Vince to throw in a rather untested
>> individual (in terms of fan response) into a major PPV like that. Then
>> again, he did introduce Kane the Undertaker at the Survivor Series two
>> years ago...
>> 
>> Anyway, I'm hoping for Backlund, but I'm not expecting it. Vince's
>> choice will probably be really banal and disappointing...like Crush.
>> 
>> Michael



I'm telling ya, Hogan is on his way back in, and at just the right time too! Vince is having real trouble drawing lately and Hogan is just the man to help him get some really big draws for a change! So look for Hogan to team with Savage at SS, and Hogan to eventually regain the belt at WM9.


Ron (Whatcha gonna do when when HH runs wild on you!)
From: v124jw4y@ubvmsd.cc.buffalo.edu (Benjamin R Pierce)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: All this SWF crap
Date: 23 Nov 92 17:11:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <92327.230914SAP120@psuvm.psu.edu>, SAP120@psuvm.psu.edu (Shawn Pearce) writes...
>For that matter, why don't you say anything about the FWF that I see running
>around the net.............
> 
>I'm not flaming the FWF (neat idea), but I am saying don't flame one non-wrestl
>ing post without flaming ALL of them.
> 
>My $.02



Well, as far as PBeM leagues go, the SWF is not the first to be asked to leave
the newsgroup...back when I started the EMWA, two years ago, I started out
posting on the net, and was asked (politely by some, not so politely by others)
to take it off the net.  In hindsight, I have to agree that this was a fair
request; play-by-mail games should be handled through mail, or in rec.games.pbm,
not on rspw.  The FWF isn't exactly a pbm game (more like fan fiction), and 
while it could be argued that it shouldn't be on rspw either, I haven't heard
overwhelming complaints against it.  However, play-by-mail games and similar
projects have been pretty well established as off-topic (Dreamcard, anyone?)


                                                --Ben
Organization: Washington University, St. Louis
Date:         Mon, 23 Nov 92 15:36:29 CST
From:         C09615DJ@wuvmd.wustl.edu
To:           NETNEWS@WUVMD
Subject:      Ultimate Warrior
Newsgroups:   rec.sport.pro-wrestling

I'm sorry but I haven't read this group in a while.  I have a question
though, why is the  Ultimate Warrior out of the Surviors Series.  I turned
on wrestling about 5 minutes late, and all they were talking about
was Perfect taking his place.  They never said what happened to him.
I was just wondering if someone could tell me?


Peace and I'm Oudi,

David J.
From: hit@sol.acs.unt.edu (Hisaharu Tanabe)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Warrior axed
Date: 15 Nov 92 17:37:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: sol.hit.721849044
Organization: University of North Texas

Send Me Your Money <U94_RDUFFY@VAXC.STEVENS-TECH.EDU> writes:

>Watts and Sasaki?  That's worse than Liger and weighlifter guy last year at
>battle bowl.

Hope not.  Watts, at least, seem to have a will to "learn" while Bill Kaz. did
not have it at all.  Sure, all of them screwed up at Battle Brawl because they
had one of the worst matches of the night involving one of the greatest workers
in the world.

But you know what?  From November 22nd, Sasaki and Hawk will start as the
New Road Warriors.  Doesn't it sound bad?

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From: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.pro-wrestling
Subject: Re: Wrestling Challenge
Date: 22 Nov 1992 23:51:14 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: bh929@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mike Palij)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, fippjc@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Joe Fipp) says:

>  [interesting match description deleted]
>
>Comments: No mention of Bigelow, and I will say again that I don't see how
>Backund can deserve a major push.  No gimick, no charisma, and no Virginia,
>he can't wrestle a good match (by today's standards).

First, I thought there was brief segment saying that Bam Bam Bigelow was
coming (or was that from yesterday?).  Second, I liked Backlund back
when he was the champ but I have to admit that this match was dull.
However, I think what Backlund needs is a strong feud with someone who
plays off of Backlund's goody-two shoes, high school atlethicism.
Imagine someone with the attitude of Jesse Ventura who would rank on
Backlund and get his goat.  Or a Cactus Jack type who says that
Backlund's type makes him puke and then have him puke on Backlund
and beat him up.  Nobody in the WWF really fits this category except
Nailz but his personality is as dull as Backlund's.  Maybe someone like
Damian Demento could be molded into this type of character.
And then have Backlund get beat up on a regular basis but winning the
matches by dq so he can't claim a real victory until a major ppv,
say wrestlemania?

Well, just a thought.

>
>			Fippster 6
>

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