HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: nmw1638@cs.rit.edu (Nicolas M Williams)
Newsgroups: alt.sex,soc.bi,soc.motss
Subject: Re: Landers followup
Date: 8 Apr 92 19:51:47 GMT
Followup-To: alt.sex
Distribution: usa
Organization: Rochester Institute of Technology, Rochester, NY

In article <1992Apr7.173617.17048@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ses3n@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Sharon Elizabeth Silverman) writes:
>
>A while back, Ann Landers wrote asking gayfolk to send
>her a card telling her whether they were glad to be gay
>or not. (I told her I was HAPPY to be BI and to quit 
>ignoring us like the rest of the world). I don't read her
>column regularly, but I want to see her follow-up post. 
>Could someone who reads her please note my address, and 
>let me know when it appears, so I can look it up? I would
>REALLY appreciate it!				Thanks!
>				Sharon (ses3n@Virginia.edu)
>PS- My note to her was more polite than it appears!

If anyone does have a copy of her response, then post it
to the net too, 'cause I'd like to see how she responded.

Nick
--
                                                           ______         
E-mail: nmw1638@cs.rit.edu Phone: (716) 475-3716           \ \/ /       
Mail: CPU 645, 25 Andrews Memorial Dr, Rochester, NY 14623  \/\/
Disclaimer: My opinions are mine!
From: gtoal@castle.ed.ac.uk (Graham Toal)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Bi Quotes and Red Heads
Date: 12 Apr 92 23:44:11 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Apr12.224204.4906@u.washington.edu> rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld) writes:
:Sex mad and ginger bearded (Up or Down) are two of my *Faaavorites*.
:                  
:Now, if you could tutor Ada, I'l buy your ticket over here...
:
:Sandy	We don't need more queers with good taste, 
:		We need more queers that taste good!

WOW!!!! Mail me that ticket!!!!  So what do you want to know
about package encapsulation?  [OK, I've never written any Ada but
I've got the books and I can read up on them in the plane :-)]

Graham
PS Nutella flavoured today :-u
From: chris@unicorn.resun.com (Chris Von Hendy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re:  Bi Quotes
Date: 14 Apr 92 03:33:57 GMT
Article-I.D.: unicorn.01010066.0v85ks
Reply-To: chris@unicorn.resun.com
Organization: Metalogic, S.a r.l.
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In article <1992Apr9.150758.1294@spdcc.com> (soc.bi), pentangl@spdcc.com (Scott Moir) writes:
> 
> Hmm.. I have brown hair, but my -beard- is red. Does that count? :)
> 

Does in my book.  I love red beards.

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Chris Von Hendy            "If we shadows have offended,
Escondido, California       Think but this, and all is mended,
ncr-sd!blkhole!chris  or    That you have but slumbered here,
chris@unicorn.resun.com     While these visions did appear." Puck
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis)
Subject: Re: How do you feel about Outing, a quick poll.
Reply-To: ptd2@po.CWRU.Edu (Palmer T. Davis)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 92 23:18:45 GMT


In a previous article, tal@plts.uucp (Tom Limoncelli) says:

["Nazi America" background deleted]

>One day you discover that the procecutor that oversees 100% of all the
>arrests is, himself, a homosexual.  Not only is he homosexual, but he
>is well-known at the town's local gay bar.

As an aside, why is it that the folks at the local gay bar put up with
this bozo?  It seems to me that if everyone refused to have anything to
do with him, it might get the point across....

>What do you do?  Do you tell anyone?  Do you bring it to the press?
>Do you "out" him?  What if he wasn't the prosecutor but ranked high
>enough that he could put an end to all investigations and might even
>be able to have the law overturned?

No prosecutor anywhere in the US posesses the legislative authority
needed to overturn state law.  The state legislature would have to do
that.  And if popular sentiment is running so strongly in favor of
oppressing BGL folks, suddenly cancelling all investigations in progress
would probably get this guy thrown out of office and replaced with 
someone worse on election day.  

If he can live with himself, that's his decision.  He may have other 
reasons for staying in office.  Suppose, for example, that the candidate 
he defeated to gain office is hopelessly corrupt, and that if he leaves
office, his corrupt rival will regain his former position.

>The highest ranking civilian is Pete Williams; he could stop it; he
>could end it for good; he is 100% gay.

You're drastically overstating Pete Williams' authority and responsibilities.
Mr. Williams is *not* the "highest ranking" civilian at DoD; depending 
on how you reckon it, that honor belongs to either Secretary Cheney or 
the President.  A permanent change in DoD policy that would "end it for 
good" would require an act of Congress, an executive order, or a command 
decision that Williams lacks the authority to make.

>Would it
>make a difference to the straight world if they were told?  Would it
>make a difference to our sisters and brothers in the armed forces if
>Pete's secret was widely known?

It would most certainly make a difference to Pete Williams.  Coming out
is a personal decision based on many factors.  Intruding yourself on 
someone else's personal decisions is inherently rude and harmful.  In 
contrived cases such as the prosecutor (or, even worse, a LGB legislator 
who sponsors homophobic legislation), what that someone is doing may well
be more harmful.  If you believe that this justifies your striking back,
then it is your decision whether to do so or not.
-- 
Palmer T. Davis       ______    "It may be better to be a live jackal than a
CWRU, Cleveland OH    \ \/ /     dead lion.  But it is better still to be a
<ptd2@po.cwru.edu>     \/\/      live lion.  And usually easier."  -- RAH
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Subject: Re: e-flirts
Followup-To: soc.bi
Reply-To: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 04:46:56 GMT

In article <31257@skye.dcs.ed.ac.uk> db@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Dave Berry) writes:
>Ro said:
>>Flirtitiously munching on the back of the entire newsgroup's neck:
>
>Flirtatiously nibbling the *big toes* of the entire newsgroup...
>
Sensually massaging the lower back of the entire newsgroup...

-- 
 Albert Lunde         | Interfaith  |     *Y*Y*      "A branch on the
 Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu |  Bisexual   |      *Y*        tree of life"
 alunde@nuacvm.bitnet |  Feminist   |.......|.........................
From: gtoal@castle.ed.ac.uk (Graham Toal)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Stereotypes and bisexuality (wasRe: Coming out to teachers...)
Date: 9 Apr 92 19:24:52 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Apr8.142940.18817@bronze.ucs.indiana.edu> alyoung@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (amy young) writes:
:The stereotypes are rediculous.  How many times do I hear that being
:bisexual means you MUST have a partner of each sex at the same time at
:all times?  I don't understand this.  Where did this come from?  
:
:amy

Not here!  We understand.

G
From: wells@cs.hw.ac.uk (Francis Wells)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Dominos (was: De-muffining, me too!)
Date: 14 Apr 92 22:37:42 GMT
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

In article <1992Apr13.224321.4102@rat.csc.calpoly.edu> pclary@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary) writes:
>max@drycas.club.cc.cmu.edu (Max Handelsman: liberal hippie subversive dude.) wrote...
>>In article <PTFCLZK=S@linac.fnal.gov>, glass@mdtf14.fnal.gov (Hank Glass) writes:
>>> since moving here from LA... I've also noticed I've been feeling a bit
>>> odd lately (queer? no ..no.. that's not quite right... ), but I have
>>> had an almost irresistable urge to snuggle with just about anything that
>>> moved--male, female, or neuter (hey!  does that make me TRI-sexual?)
>>
>>	Or a TRY-sexual...you'll TRY anything!
>>	<duck>
>>
>>		-Max
>
>There's also BUY-sexual: Buy me something, I'll get sexual. <also ducking>
>
>Ellen

Or BYE-SEXUAL if the Quack jokes continue :-)

Huggles
	Frankums.
______________________________________________________________________________
        This pink triangle was drawn \bi/ Francis Joseph Wells
B4 f t g++ k+(+) s+ p                 \/                    wells@hci.hw.ac.uk
Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?))
Subject: Re: Bi Quotes and Red Heads
Reply-To: pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 18:11:20 GMT

In article <1992Apr11.171711.29850@u.washington.edu> rhiann@milton.u.washington.edu (Sandra Hereld) writes:
>
>Sandy 		We don't need queers with good taste
>		We need queers that taste good...

<giggle>  <chortle>  
i *like* this one!  

anyone going to admit to bein a good tasting queer?  ;)
<leer>

peg
;)



Newsgroups: soc.bi
From: pclary@polyslo.csc.calpoly.edu (Ellen Clary)
Subject: Re: A Question- "Muffin"? "De-muffining"?
Date: Thu, 09 Apr 92 18:04:44 GMT
Organization: Cal Poly, San Luis Obispo, CA - aka Barnum & Bailey

monitn@jec316.its.rpi.edu (Nicholas Monitto) wrote...
>  Hi folks! Just wondering... I've sat here reading the posts for a while, 
>and one thing has been eluding me. What exactly is a "muffin"? And what is 
>"de-muffining"? Just wondering... :)
>
>  Nick, the Self-Radiating TeddyBear (tm)
>  (monitn@rpi.edu)
Eventually, we need to agree on a soc.bi FAQ gang. (If that's possible.) 
(Maybe the only thing we should put in our FAQ is that there are
lots of FAQs but no FGAs (frequently given answers) 8-) )

Stolen from soc.motss FAQ:
111. What are these "twinks", "smurfs", etc?
    Here's a quick lexicon of some of the "unusual" terms you'll see
on soc.motss.  Some of these are specific to the motss world, and others
aren't.

muffin:  A member of the soc.motss community who reads but has never
posted an article, or at least not under their own name.  Usually
used to refer to gay, lesbian, or bisexual persons.

biscuit:  Non-gay persons on soc.motss, sometimes used for non-posters
(analogous to muffin), but not always.

bears:  Persons, usually men, whose physical characteristics tend
toward the husky and hirsute.

twink, twinkie:  Generally, a cute young (male) thing (CYT).  Known as
"golden, cream-filled, and ready to be eaten."  (Etymology:  In the US,
Twinkies(tm) are snack cakes with these same properties.)

smurf:  Usually indicates an irreverent, silly, *cute* poster.  Some
soc.motss participants have formed a loose organization called the
"Smurf Gang".  Never take a Smurf Gang posting at face value.  (Etymology:
the cartoon characters.)

LGBO*:  Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual people, Others, and Anyone Still
Left Out.
 
--
 Patricia "Ellen" Clary              |    "There's a lot to be said for
 pclary@polyslo.csc.CalPoly.EDU      |    an experience that's primitive."
 pclary@nike.CalPoly.EDU             |                        Riker (ST:TNG)
From: pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?))
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: mary stuart masterson
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:28:52 GMT
Reply-To: pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations


some one who can't post on the net sent me this sad (?) news:

mary stuart masterson gat married.  apparently yesterday.  
i know we should all be happy for her...

peg
From: rhialto@falu.sneakernet (Olaf Seibert)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re:  Ann Landers
Date: 8 Apr 92 16:20:06 GMT
Reply-To: rhialto@cs.kun.nl
Organization: Intravenous News Addicts

In article <2976@cs.rit.edu> nmw1638@cs.rit.edu (Nicolas M Williams) writes:
[stuff about pre-birth queerness test deleted]
>1) on the light side what YOU *feel* would not matter anymore, you could
>be told "Nope, you're straight, Keithy" because a test says so; or maybe:
>"You can't love him or marry him ma'am 'cause the test says you're a
>lesbian;

This would indeed be ridiculous... it is an example of the infinite trust
in science that some people wrongfully have. Fortunately, I don't see such
a test become reality in the near or medium future, and as far as I'm
concerned it is never going to exist. I don't care if I am born bi, or
raised, or converted, or enchanted, or whatever. Suppose you know: people
are born queer. That knowledge might be abused to test and abort foeti (or
more primitively, kill them after birth). On the other hand, if it were
proved that I was raised to be queer, some idiots might want to take
children away from parents who raise their children "wrong". Etcetera. This
may be one of the few occasions where not knowing something scientifically
is better than knowing.

>Nick

-Olaf.
--
___ Olaf 'Rhialto' Seibert      B4f+-t-w--g+k+(+)svmrp+  rhialto@cs.kun.nl
\X/ How can you be so stupid if you're identical to me? -Robert Silverberg
From: chris@unicorn.resun.com (Chris Von Hendy)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: e-flirts
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:41:47 GMT
Reply-To: chris@unicorn.resun.com
Organization: Metalogic, S.a r.l.
X-Mailer: uAccess - Macintosh Release: 1.5v3


In article <20042@castle.ed.ac.uk> (soc.bi), sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (Sara's ElectroPostie) writes:
> >Flirtatiously nibbling the *big toes* of the entire newsgroup...
> 
> Eeek!  I don't recommend that on me as I have *very* ticklish toes and
> you're liable to get one stuck up your nose when I involuntarily kick
> out ... now explain your way out of *that* one in the accident and
> emergency department ...

Hm.  Have to remember to tie Sara's feet very firmly to the bedposts
before trying this.  ;-)

-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Chris Von Hendy            "If we shadows have offended,
Escondido, California       Think but this, and all is mended,
ncr-sd!blkhole!chris  or    That you have but slumbered here,
chris@unicorn.resun.com     While these visions did appear." Puck
From: pentangl@spdcc.com (Scott Moir)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Dominos (was: De-muffining, me too!)
Date: 15 Apr 92 02:40:06 GMT
Organization: S.P. Dyer Computer Consulting, Cambridge MA

In article <1992Apr14.192918.4906@panix.com> ro@panix.com (r l reid) writes:
>
>And don't forget Tom Limoncelli (how can you forget Tom?
>Makes an art of high visibility), who is our esteemed 
>colleague in North Jersey.
>
>Tim Pierce of Mass - don't get any bi'er or ne'er than Tim.

B
I'm right near Boston, So I guess I violate the rules,
anyone have a suitable punishment for my digression?

 Scott
>
>ro
>M,F+,H+(br)
^^^^^^^^^^^  What is this?
>
>-- 
>		r l reid	ro@@panix.com
>@WOOF, QUACK AND  MEOW: Composers of Woof present a variety of computer music 
>[Apr 26, 8:30 pm, Cunningham Dance Studio 55 Bethune (Westbeth), NYC)]
>[Apr 30, 8:30 pm, SIA, (410 W 118 St, top floor, NYC)]


-- 
Scott Moir / Pentangle / Satyr ______ # "There's really only one requirement 
pentangl@Ursa-Major.spdcc.com  \ \/ / #  for a Prophet, and you've got it."
B4 f t+ w g k+(+) s+ m r p+     \/\/  # "What's that?"
These are my opinions, not SPDCC's    # "A mouth." - 'God' to J.R.'BoB' Dobbs
From: rivk@quads.uchicago.edu (nora gayle rivkis)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: e-flirts
Date: 16 Apr 92 00:01:47 GMT
Reply-To: rivk@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Apr13.160151.23359@panix.com> ro@panix.com (r l reid) writes:
>In article <1992Apr9.214903.7783@midway.uchicago.edu> rivk@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>>Snuggling up to the entire newsgroup and looking up with wide,
>>expectant eyes...
>
>Ohmigawd - eyes!  I *love* brown eyes...and green eyes...and blue eyes...
>and grey ones and hazel ones 

Mine are a little strange... a rather poetic lover of mine once called
them "sea and sun". They're sea green with a golden ring just around
the pupil...

>NEWS FLASH:  a quake was recorded worldwide at 0517 GMT when
>apparently the entire readership of soc.bi fluttered their
>eyelashes at once.

>(wink)(biting my upper lip slightly and looking away, then back, barely
>grinning, so shy)

(fluttering eyelashes at you)

>ro

	-Nora


-- 
Oseh shalom b'imromav, hu ya'aseh shalom aleinu v'al kol yisrael.
From: gtoal@castle.ed.ac.uk (Graham Toal)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: e-flirts
Date: 15 Apr 92 23:36:47 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Apr15.180008.9028@cs.tcd.ie> cjmchale@cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale) writes:
:In <1992Apr15.152007.11950@ecst.csuchico.edu>
:pwiebe@ecst.csuchico.edu (stephanie mandell) writes:
:
:>In article <20206@castle.ed.ac.uk> sara@castle.ed.ac.uk (S Hopkins) writes:
:>>Shy, huh?  Hmmm ... and I'm tee-total ... and celibate ...
:>
:>So, Sara, looks to me like you're knocking celibacy.  
:
:Me thinks that you misread the sarcasm in Sara's posting. Reread what

Ciaran?  You OK?
From: was1+@pitt.edu (Scott A Wayne)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: e-flirts
Date: 12 Apr 92 20:56:35 GMT
Organization: University of Pittsburgh


	Hello,
		I am new to newsgroups.  I am a 19 year old bisexual male.
I have never heard of Bzzztt before.  Can someone explain to me exactly
how you play Bzzzttt.  E-Mail me directly or post a reply in this newsgroup.
I'd appreciate it.  Thanks in advance.

					- Wayne
-- 
* Wayne A. Scott            !            was1+@pitt.edu              *
* Electrical Engineering    !  "My opinion was paid for by the same  *
* University of Pittsburgh  !   blood that bought every American's   *
* Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania  !   opinion - our soldier's blood."      *
From: pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?))
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Coming out to teachers...
Date: 9 Apr 92 15:46:54 GMT
Reply-To: pmm7@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations

In article <1992Apr7.193030.12213@amhux2.amherst.edu> twpierce@amhux1.amherst.edu (Tim Pierce) writes:
>
>A very good point.  So I'll switch to the other argument I can think
>of offhand: where ARE the numbers we're asking textbooks to print?
>How many formal studies have been done on bisexuality and its
>relationship to heterosexuality or homosexuality, and so on?  I don't
>think very many have, and it doesn't seem reasonable to criticize the
>textbook for not printing the results of studies that haven't been
>done.  Criticizing the lack of study, however, seems entirely
>appropriate.

true, and also throwing out "facts" in a textbook (!) as though they
*are* facts.  the implication is clearly that the textbook authors
have something to base those facts on (which most people will assume
come from a study).  it is irresponsible on the part of the author(s).

peg
From: twpierce@amherst.edu (Tim Pierce)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: the newsgroup (was: muffining)
Date: 1 Apr 92 19:52:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: amherst.1992Apr1.155234.1
Organization: Amherst College, Amherst, MA.

In article <3022@cs.rit.edu>, nmw1638@cs.rit.edu (Nicolas M Williams) writes:

> In article <1992Mar30.032312.5163@vax.oxford.ac.uk> cen@vax.oxford.ac.uk writes:
>>
>> nmw1638@cs.rit.edu (Nicolas M Williams) writes:
>>
>>[Tim Pierce]
>>
>>> What I meant in my post is that I like having two separate places like
>>> soc.bi and soc.motss, one being very friendly and fun and the other being
>>> the place where the flames take place. 

These attributions are getting a little misleading ... I did not
say that.

-- 
____ Tim Pierce                / "Simon LeVay says he can't find any lesbian
\  / twpierce@amherst.edu      /  brains ... I've been to that bar."
 \/ (BITnet: TWPIERCE@AMHERST) / -- Max Meredith Vasilatos (max@athena.mit.edu)
From: cascio@garnet.berkeley.edu ()
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: is de-muffining painful?
Date: 10 Apr 1992 06:54:18 GMT
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.berkeley.edu

Wow. Just started reading this tonight and I'm already posting!

I get a great feeling while reading this group (any and all puns
intended). For the last five years, I have been in love with a
beautiful green-eyed bi woman. Last saturday night (4/4), I 
married her. 

She makes me incredibly happy, and we are very much in love. 
Everybody say "awwww". 

What's great about this relationship 
is that we agree completely on how "open" it should
be, and we are both voracious voyeurs. When I see how her eyes
light up when she gets turned on... ahem.

I guess I'm posting this in order to jump on the "bi's make
terrific partners" bandwagon. And to get a little eflirting, too...

jamais cascio
(yes, my real name)
cascio@garnet.berkeley.edu

ps-- the night of my bachelor party, the entertainment, a woman who
usually works for the Mitchell Bros' theater in San Francisco, met
janice and now wants to get together with the two of us. We're 
going to lunch on sunday. wish us luck.
From: glass@mdtf14.fnal.gov (Hank Glass)
Newsgroups: soc.bi
Subject: Re: Dominos (was: De-muffining, me too!)
Date: 13 Apr 92 21:09:43 GMT
	<1992Apr12.225105.23690@vpnet.chi.il.us>
	<1992Apr13.171618.24058@midway.uchicago.edu>
Organization: Warp Factor 9

In article <1992Apr13.171618.24058@midway.uchicago.edu> pmm7@ellis.uchicago.edu (peggy boucher murphy (you had to ask?)) writes:
   In article <1992Apr12.225105.23690@vpnet.chi.il.us> orc@vpnet.chi.il.us (david parsons) writes:
   >In article <PTFCLZK=S@linac.fnal.gov> glass@mdtf14.fnal.gov (Hank Glass) demuffins:

   >|goodness... have I de-muffined?
   >
   >    Apparently so.  But we won't tell anyone, at least not yet.

   oops.  hi stranger.... ;)  <wink>  

Hi, there, peggy! <blushes, and a few winks>.
   Oh, and hi, david!  <more coy winks>


   >|Eeeek!!!   Well, it does tickle a little bit.
   >
   >    Oho, this is a sensitive type!  Line forms to the left! ;-)

   line!  i don't wait in line to flirt!

First come first serve (and vice-versa)!  ;-))


   >|Actually, it feels rather pleasant.  Well, here's hugs & kisses to
   >|all, and a "tra-la-lah" for those who are musically inclined.

   ah!  a musical bi!  i hope you play more than one instrument, and 
   can sing more than one part...  ;)

Yes, I'm a virtuoso of sorts... I'll let you tune my instrument if
you're nice.  {  hmmmm.... does that count as a flirt?  :-))  }

I also sing tenor.  Anyone wanna do a duet, or trio, or quartet, or...
hey! large ensembles can be fun, even though remembering everyone's
name can get a little tricky.  :-))

<winks> and <hugs> to all within arm's reach!  (And that extends
to Evanston and Hyde Park and all those other fun places.


Enrico
Newsgroups: soc.bi