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From: 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Fielding, how tough is it?
Date: 13 Apr 92 15:12:48 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.0095908A.699D70A0
Reply-To: 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

In article <1992Apr12.044202.20306@Princeton.EDU>, hariharn@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Ramesh Hariharan) writes:
>In article <00958DA0.09A9E260@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:

>You have rightly pointed out the fact that fielding today is an
>important facet of the game. Just a couple of quick points in this
>context. 
>
>Before 1983 the Indian team had some truly lousy fielders ..

>Sandeep Patil (remember his underarm throws from the boundary which used >to
slowly roll into the gloves of the keeper) and Gundappa Vishwanath
                                           ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ 

Ouch!!!! That hurt, Harry-man. Don't say that about my
favorite cricketer, man. You might have seen him doing only that and missed out
some of the extraordinary feats of his on the field. I admit he was not like
Logie or Azhar, but he was never slovenly on the field. He would field at first
slip, whether Gavaskar was skipper or anybody else. I am saying this because he
was given the "pride of place" :--) normally reserved for skippers of the
Indian team (until Srikkanth came on). 

I remember some of the catches he took on the tour of West Indies (the famous
fourth innings chase). One especially stands out, when he jumped high (as high
as his 5'2'' frame could take him) and took a single-handed catch to dismiss
someone I don't remember who. Unfortunately in those we did not have too many
catches coming the slips' way. If anything was even remotely a slip-catch, we
had Kirmani covering!!! :--)

>(all he did was walk from one end of the stumps to the other after the
>over !) are two names that immedietly come to my mind. I don't think big

>men like Bishen Bedi or Prasanna ever cared to dive for a ball ! 

They did not have to, I guess. :--) Though I have seen Prasanna diving for
return catches ( or to avoid a scorching drive from Lloyd or Greenidge or
Sobers). 

>Although fielding has improved over the years the standard
>still lags behind in comparison to American major league baseball. We
>don't see as many sharp throws (Unless it is a Azhar or a Gus Logie chasing
>the ball) and sensational runouts/ catches. 

Very true. My brother says the reason he liked baseball was because there was
one thing that america did better than the cricket-playing countries did, and
that was "fielding". :--)

>All comments welcome
Took you up on that, did'nt I? :--)
>
>Harry 

-Murali.
                               Murali Iyer 
Office: (414) 288 6890                             Home  : (414) 288 8576
Marquette University                               722, N.13th Street, #511,
Computer Services Division                         Milwaukee, WI 53233.
From: 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Prabhakar and Tendulkar
Date: 7 Apr 92 16:26:37 GMT
Article-I.D.: vms.00958BDD.BB0CCFA0
Reply-To: 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services

In article <1992Apr7.142854.15733@uqvax.cc.uq.oz.au>, ccrob@uqvax.cc.uq.oz.au writes:
>In article <9204070247.AA21101@sawwhet.owlnet.rice.edu>, pvr@rice.edu (Narasimha Pvr) writes:
     <stuff from Narasimha Rao deleted>

>You must remember, though, that captaincy entails much more than cricket
>experience.

I read in Sportstar that Tendulkar was the only Man Of the Match in the world
cup who did not show up for an interview with the press. The reason gleaned by
the author was that SRT felt he was not going to be able to parry all
questions. At the same time, SRT was not unwilling to grant TV interviews,
where only one person --generally-- asks the questions and always the
interviewer tries his best to put the interviewee at ease.

Just a piece of info I gathered.
>
>Just my thoughts - I could be wrong.

I agree with the scenario you have painted. It would be one hell of a task for
the young man. But he will soon be ready for that, I am pretty sure. But not
right now, when he is still getting his bearings and realising that he is being
showered with adulations from all over.

>Rob.

-Murali.

p.s: read this in India Today :
     " Man, the whole day, Kapil Dev bowls one ****ing ball which can be hit, 
       I hit it and get out!" - Geoff Marsh.


                               Murali Iyer 
Office: (414) 288 6890                             Home  : (414) 288 8576
Marquette University                               722, N.13th Street, #511,
Computer Services Division                         Milwaukee, WI 53233.

Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: sidi@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Sadiq Yusuf)
Subject: Re: David Gower
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 19:23:01 GMT

In article <4666@cluster.cs.su.oz.au> tom@minnie.cs.su.OZ.AU (Thomas James Jones) writes:
>In article <test.33@fcit-c1.fcit.monash.edu.au>, test@fcit-c1.fcit.monash.edu.au (Testing account for network) writes:
>|> Ah, that languid insouciance, will we ever see his like again?
>|> 
>|> We should have listened to Bob Willis, should have kept him playing until 
>|> his average goes under forty (which will never happen) or until the day he 
>|> retires.
>|> 
>|> "Watching David Gower for five minutes is better than watching anybody else 
>|> bat the entire day." - The World.
>|> 
>|> Nudd
>
>	I agree! A century by David Gower is the ultimate beauty in sport.
>	I always think how wasted he would be in a sport like baseball,
>	where he would have his couple of slogs and that would be it. 
>	DG forms an innings, first with ridiculous (dangerous) complacency,
>	then with that relaxed (yes, languid) confidence.
>
>	tom j. jones

	Yes !! Absolutely !! There is no better sight in cricket than a
David Gower cover-drive for four. He would be wasted in baseball
aesthetically, of course, but then baseball is not a particularly aesthetic
sport, at least compared to cricket. Cricket requires patience, its a bit
of a mental duel, and gives the player a chance to build an inning and look
great doing it. Tho I still think Gower might be a decent _player_ in
baseball too, he had the ability to perfectly place his lofted shots, would
get lots of singles and doubles, maybe not too many home runs !! 
	I still think he was treated horribly by the selectors, he still
ought to be in the English side. He _did_ top the series averages in his
last series (Australia, got 2 centuries too!), and they claim they dropped
him on form !! Nonsense !! But we've been thru this before, so I'll let it
rest. Except to repeat [in the vein of Cato's (was it?) speeches' endings
in Rome], "Gower must be recalled" !!! 

			Sadiq [ "Bring Back Gower" ] Yusuf
P.S. He'd be incredibly useful against Pakistan, he'd be much more at ease
against Akram (left-arm slanting across the righthander) and Mushtaq (leg
spin) than most English bats.
From: sarge@cs.uq.oz.au (The Lemming)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Cricket Book - world cup 92
Date: 16 Apr 92 02:28:56 GMT
Reply-To: sarge@cs.uq.oz.au

While doing my last minute Easter Shopping, I noticed in the stores
a book title World Cup '92 published in Australia. For all of you
cricket lovers in the US, I thought I might describe the book for you. 

It is a collection of all the scorecards and comments on each match of the
world cup, and contains colour photographs as well as many black and white ones.
At the end of the book, it contains stats (just the top 20 or so in a few
categories - runs, wickets,wicketkeeper, scoring rate, economy, fours, sixes
(I cant remember much more)
The book cost AUS$15

Now for all you Pakistan people out there, and anyone else who wants a 
permanent record. Seeing it is easter and I am feeling generous, I will 
offer to send books overseas to you (you pay for the book and postage - I am
not rich)

Ideally, I would like one volunteer, preferably on the west coast (California)
to be the person I send lots of books to (one parcel is much cheaper than
many small parcels) and he/she can split up the books and sen them on within
the states.

If you are interested in buying this book, let me know.
If you are interested in acting as the intermediary, let me know.
If you would rather pay the postage and get it delivered straight from me 
to you let me know also
Send no money now, I will work out details once I have an idea of interest

I am making no money on this. I am doing it to satisfy peoples need for cricket.

The Lemming
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From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Miandad in England?
Date: 5 Apr 92 12:37:36 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

In article <1992Mar31.221109.10177@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU> kumar@syd.dit.CSIRO.AU (V.R.Kumar) writes:
>According to reliable sources, Waqar has been advised by the doctors
>to take rest for atleast a year. 
>
>| V.R.Kumar (Ramkumar Venkatachalam)                                 |

	   That is incorrect information, and should not be propagated. I
am personally aware of Waqar's situation, and the injury is already
healed for all practical purposes. 

	   On a more general note, RSC posters should refrain from
spreading such unadulterated gossip.

Salman [a reliable source himself] Azhar


-- 
``I will pass you in a small boat trapped by stormy seas, without
saying a word. Perhaps, there is nothing to say, and there is no time
for words. In these situations, words lose their meanings.''
          ----- D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: leland@donner.uucp (25844-joseph)
Subject: The booing of Richie Richardson of the West Indies cricket team
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 92 14:28:33 GMT
Keywords: importance

If Richie Richardson's response to losing to the South Africans in the World Cupwas "just another cricket match", then he deserved to be booed. To us in the
caribbean, the game is not simply just a "game". It is a way of life! It unifiesus! It is a source of national and regional pride! I have always felt that the
demise of our once powerful team has been coupled with a lack of historical
awareness of our present players. How many of them are aware of the fact that
although the caribbean is overwhelmingly African and Indian, British expatriates
once dominated the team. Of course, they had the great George Headley to carry
most, if not all of the batting load. These and other slights should compel them
to strive to give their best at all times. When I see our team in the field, it 
a source of pride and joy to me. It tells me that despite all of the odds and
obstacles arrayed against us, we have, and can succeed. The importance of these
matches go far beyond being "just another cricket match".
 
It is my opinion that some of these present players do not play with the kind
of intensity that produces winners. Their body language reflects the attitude
of Richardson's. I would feel better knowing that if they lost a match, at least
they gave it their very best, not less. When the rest of the world again starts 
griping about our fast bowlers, and suggesting that some of the rules be changed
in an obvious attempt to shackle us, then I know we are back on track. 
 
Bring back Lloyd as manager!
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
From: jeff@mips2.ma30.bull.com (Jefferson Challenger)
Subject: Re: Popularity of Cricket
Reply-To: jeff@mips2.ma30.bull.com (Jefferson Challenger)
Organization: Bull Worldwide Information Systems  (Billerica, MA)
Date: Thu, 16 Apr 1992 16:03:21 GMT

In article <10703950.7@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au>, 10703950@eng2.eng.monash.edu.au (BENJAMIN CUTLER) writes:

|> 
|> Soccer is probably the most popular in number of countries in which it is 
|> played. But it is also the most BORING of sports - no one scores !!
	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
|> The ball just goes from one end of the ground to the other and back again.

-- 

Interesting concept!  I never thought of it that way.  It never occurred to me that the score, or
/*  sizeof (score) */, had anything to do with the excitment of a game or in its dullness [read 
BORINGNESS].  Is it possible that this comment was/is from someone who only knows how to 
play cricket?  I appreciate all kinds of sports.  A certain sport may not be my favorite, but I
understand (or at least I try to understand) the skill, coordination and feeling it takes to play
that particular game!!!!!

							"j.e.f.f."
							CooL RunningS...

P.S.  The most exciting game I have seen was a NO-HITTER (baseball), where the final score
         was maybe 1-0.  Guess what.....there were no runs scored here either!!!!!!!!!!!!

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From: tom@minnie.cs.su.OZ.AU (Thomas James Jones)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Miandad vs Crowe
Date: 9 Apr 92 01:46:19 GMT

In article <1992Apr6.222730.16528@ncar.ucar.edu>, amanning@acd.acd.ucar.edu (Andrew Manning) writes:
|> In article <69130@ut-emx.uucp> anantha@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Ram Anantha) writes:
|> >
|> >The other comment I want to make is: Why was Martin Crowe awarded
|> >the Man of the Series before the Final was played? I thought that
|> >Miandad also deserved to share this award. He was as consistent as
|> >Crowe was.
|> 
|> I suggest you take another look at the statistics. Crowe had more runs (in
|> one less game, if Miandad played them all?), had a much better average (120
|> odd), AND, he had a very high strike rate (roughly 90%). He was also the
|> captain, and was correctly given a lot of the credit for New Zealand's
|> remarkable performance in the Cup (many are saying we would have done
|> better (but not necessarily have won) the semi if Crowe had been on the
|> field). 
|> 
|> 
|> 

	Miandad certainly missed one game, and I also believe his
	contribution was as worthy of recognition as that of Crowe,
	who's side (when it counted), was not good enough.

	tom j. jones
From: sougata@cc.gatech.edu (Sougata Mukherjea)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: The trend continues ....
Date: 10 Apr 92 14:25:40 GMT
Reply-To: sougata@cc.gatech.edu
Organization: College of Computing

We had a new World Cup Champion and the Conservatives won the British election.
The Labour party should see to it that Pakistan wins in 1996!

- Sougata
==============================================================================	
Sougata Mukherjea (sougata@cc.gatech.edu)
College of Computing
Georgia Tech
=============================================================================
From: KSRAO@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Furore in Barbados
Date: 15 Apr 1992 16:14:37 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu


        There had been quite a furore in Barbados on the selection of the
WI team (13) for the first test. Kenneth Benjamin and Courtney Walsh replace
Harper and Cummins in the thiteen. The omission of Cummins is causing widespread
dissatisfaction and there were some calls to boycott the test as there are
five players from Leeward islands (four Antiguans).

All this is from a telephone call I got in which a newswire report was read.
I will post any concrete news after I get it.

Rao
From: azhar@duke.cs.duke.edu (D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Waqar and Abdul Qadir is "FIT TO TOUR"; Wisden's Five Cricketers
Date: 9 Apr 92 17:05:55 GMT
Organization: Duke University Computer Science Dept.; Durham, N.C.

Abdul Qadir, Pakistan's most successful leg-spinner, said yesterday he was fit
and available to tour England this season.

        "I am fully fit and satisfied with X-rays and will be glad to join the
camp if the authorities ask me to do so," said Qadir, 36, who ruptured an
Achilles tendon in a charity match between Pakistan and an England XI at
Uxbridge in Middlesex last autumn.

        Fast bowler Waqar Younis, 20, who suffered a stress fracture during
Pakistan's home series against Sri Lanka, also saw his doctor in Lahore
yesterday and was said to be much better.  He should also be available for the
tour of England.

        Younis was last night named as one of Wisden's five CRICKETERS OF THE
YEAR, along with Lancashire paceman Phillip DeFreitas, Curtly Ambrose and
Richie Richardson, of the West Indies, and South African Allan Donald.

Source:  M. Mujahid from The Daily Telegraph, Thursday, April 9, 1992. 
-- 
``I will pass you in a small boat trapped by stormy seas, without
saying a word. Perhaps, there is nothing to say, and there is no time
for words. In these situations, words lose their meanings.''
          ----- D. Salman [Quintessential] Azhar
From: mjq@acpub.duke.edu (MOHAMMAD QAZI)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Don Bradman's three highest innings
Date: 13 Apr 92 18:48:53 GMT
Organization: Duke University; Durham, N.C.

Hi!

I don't remember the teams and the years Bradman scored his three
highest runs in an innings, but I think I remember the scores.
They are 

1) 334 vs England (in 193?)
2) 309 vs England (in ?)
3) 299* vs ? (in ?)

Would some one complete this?

thanx,

SYED.
From: KSRAO@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: WI/SA SA in 43 rd over
Date: 7 Apr 1992 18:40:37 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

     WI scored 287 in 50 overs.

     South Africa were all out for 180 runs in the 43rd over.

      I do not have the scorecard, it wasnot shown. I hope that Nick or
somebody from South Africa will post the scorecard tomorrow.

      The rest of the itenerary of the tour is as follows:

     April  11   ODI at Trinidad  starts at 8:30am CDT
     April  12   ODI at TRinidad  starts at 8:30am CDT
     April 18-22  Test at Barbados; starts at 9:00am CDT

       I do not know which is the rest day, if there is any.

Rao
From: grx1176@uoft02.utoledo.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Who is Sachin Tendulkar (The Rising Star)!
Date: 15 Apr 92 07:08:10 EST
Organization: University of Toledo, Computer Services

	Nice piece of article. Hope to see more of this in RSC
	
	Gopal

> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> 
> Muqtada Husain
> Deptt. of Mech. Engg.
> Ohio State University
> Columbus, OH
From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Making a wicket...and more on equipment
Date: 11 Apr 92 15:02:26 GMT
Reply-To: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu
Distribution: na
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL

nittab@aix.rpi.edu (Bhimashankar Venkata Nitta) writes:
>We are forming a cricket club here at RPI and we need some information on
>'making' a wicket. I understand a lot of clubs have MATTING wickets. Now, we 
>dont know if we should make a matting wicket or a regulation grass pitch. 
>We do have plenty of grassy grounds (although for the most part the top
>soil is pretty soft). My question is what criteria if any should govern our
>choice, and furthermore how should we go about making the wicket. (Alright
>that's two questions :-) Please help....

If you can *really* make a turf wicket **AND** can have it properly
mantained that is the way to go .. however, even here at the Univ of
Illinois where we get a fair amount of support (and funding) from the
UofI I doubt they would be willing to mantain a turf wicket.  Firstly
it takes a LOT of time, and secondly the expertise is not readily
available.

If you are going to make a matting wicket, then here goes.  Have them
dig up (with a rototiller/earth mover) a rectangle of 28 yards by 4-5
yards to a depth of at least a foot (deeper is better, but a
rototiller does not go much deeper than that).  The stones (and
grass/roots etc.) must then be raked out from the dirt ... you will
need extra dirt to replce the lost volume.  The earth should then be
repacked and rolled with a heavy roller 3-4 times -- with the proper
equipment this should not take more than one day (it didn't for us).
A couple more waterings and rolling should suffice to pack it in.  if
you want a harder surface, instead of mixing in dirt to make up the
lost volume, add in a mixture of dirt and clay.

After that rolling once a week should suffice.  Of course, you will
need a mat to play on.  best to have the University assign a ground
for cricket; else if other sports are played, the pitch will
disintegrate very quickly.

This will need to be redone every 3 years or thereabouts.

And oh yes, have then spray the pitch twice or thrice in the season to
prevent weeds from growing in again.

The idea of making a larger than dimensions pitch is that you will be
able to move and reposition the mat if necessary.  Keep sawdust around
for the bowlers runups.

>Thanks, in advance

You are welcome.  Good luck.

>Bhima

Bharat
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From: pvr@rice.edu (Narasimha Pvr)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Problems with a vice cap at 19 (Re: Prabhakar and Tendulkar)
Date: 7 Apr 1992 04:24:51 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

I wrote in article <9204070805.AA22069@sawwhet.owlnet.rice.edu>:

> Tendulkar has played in 17 tests (average is around 42). He played in all
> the test-playing countries except SA and WI.

I was wrong.

I should've added SL to that list. (However, he played SL on Indian soil.)

--------
PVR Narasimha Rao
From: KSRAO@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: WI/SA  SA in 41st over
Date: 7 Apr 1992 17:04:40 -0500
Organization: CS Dept, University of Texas at Austin
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu

  WI scored 287 in thier 50 overs.

SA after 39 overs are 168 for 8.

Partial scorecard:

Rhodes b Cummins  7
Snell run out 1
Richardson c Aurturton b Benjamin 5
Wenzel c Ambrose b Benjamin 0
Cronjer   batting
Henry  batting.

Simmons hit 5 sixes and 12 fours in his 123..Rao