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From: analog@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Monahan)
Subject: Re: Homophobia and the Rush Fan
Keywords: Two of them:  _WITCH HUNT_
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 18:19:40 GMT

In article <BxvqB1.AJq@ns1.nodak.edu> abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson) writes:
>Did anyone else read that little thing about Neil being gay in TNMS?
>
>I think its bullsh-t!!!!!!!!!
>
>He dosen't even have a lisp:-)

	Whoa there big guy!
	That's the kind of homphobic rembling that ruins the reputation Rush
fans enjoy of being on the "intellectual" side of the populace.  Next you'll
be telling us all about how God wants him dead (not another invite for a flame  war!).
	Yes, the rumor is largely based on heresay, but even if it is true, so  what!!???
	All I'm saying is take you "ignorance and prejudice" and try them out onAlt.homophobia.ignorant.buffoons

				Have a nice day,


						Mike

-- 
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	I want to look at life, in the available light-Neil Peart
	A little fascism every now and then is good for you!- Matt J. Martin
Organization: The American University - University Computing Center
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 19:50:40 EST
From: Doc <SS3254B@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Red Barchetta

I always thought a barchetta was a tractor.  I'm most likely wrong, tho.
Thought I'd throw in a shot. - Doc

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From: jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Witch Hunt
Keywords: Crazy ya-hoo
Date: 20 Nov 92 20:58:34 GMT
Organization: Boston University Physics Department

In article <1992Nov20.200342.3516@pony.Ingres.COM> bbarton@Ingres.COM (Brian Barton) writes:

>On MP you can hear some ya-hoo yelling something as soon as the boys start
>into "Witch Hunt" (which is obviously a live recording of one of their
>performances.)

>The guy yells something that is almost discernable, but my hearing must be
>failing me.  For the life of me, I can't hear what he's yelling.  

Well, we got the FAQs. But now I recall also reading somewhere that part
of Neil's "speech" contains the words "protect our children", which can
be sort of made out if you turn the song up LOUD :)

Gregg


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From: wcd2z@curry.edschool.Virginia.EDU (William Camden Daniel)
Subject: Re: Rush's (Worst?) song
Organization: University of Virginia
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 19:34:56 GMT

Ack!!!!!
Sorry folks I really messed that one up.  I have been duly
corrected about my assumption that Didacts and Narpets was on
Fly by Night.  I realize now that it really is on Caress of
Steel.  Sorry for the error, but I still think the song sucks
big time.

Bill
From: glocke@morgan.ucs.mun.ca (Gord Locke)
Subject: Re: Dream Opening Acts
Organization: Memorial University of Newfoundland
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 16:24:46 GMT

cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast) writes:
>	Here is a thread that I haven't seen here.  What do you think 
>would be a good (or great) band to see open for Rush?  

	How long have you been reading?  two weeks?  =^)  I thought this
was hashed out just recently.  I think it would be best if Rush allowed
its fans to see little-known-but-promising groups as their openers, as
opposed to "Supergroups" or hot new video-and-haircut (or lack thereof)
bands.  Especially Canadian ones.  Especially NOT the Barenaked Ladies!
-- 
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From: mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu (Mike Levis) (OS/2)
Subject: Re: Quotes
Organization: University of Texas at San Antonio
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:47:13 GMT

In article <1egiluINNoa4@bigboote.WPI.EDU> mcarey@bigwpi.WPI.EDU (M A Carey) writes:
>Well, here's a new thread for some of you to gnaw on.  What are your
>favorite lyrics from a Rush song and why?  
>

The Sphere: A Kind of Dream (from Hemispheres):

"We can walk our road together, if our goals are all the same"
"We can run alone and free, if we pursue a different aim"
"Let the truth of Love be lighted, let the love of Truth shine clear"
"Sensibility, armed with sense and liberty"
"With the Heart and Mind united in a single perfect Sphere"


-- 
====== Mike Levis   mlevis@ringer.cs.utsa.edu ======
"I believed what I was told, I thought it was a good   .--.
life, I thought I was happy.  Then I found something  (OS/2)
that changed it all..."  --  Anonymous, 2112  [Rush]   ~--~
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Red Barchetta
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 07:55:44 GMT

In article <92320.195041SS3254B@auvm.american.edu> Doc <SS3254B@auvm.american.edu> writes:
>I always thought a barchetta was a tractor.  I'm most likely wrong, tho.
>Thought I'd throw in a shot. - Doc
>
>

	A barchetta is a small boat, but a few car companies have called
their products "barchetta"'s before, I just forget the names of them...


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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: Quotes
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 23:25:18 GMT

	"For you is it movement
		or is it action?
	Is it contact
		or just reaction?
	Revolution
		just resistance
	Is it living,
		or just existance?"

			So much power in the different connotations...
-- 
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From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Subject: Re: RE Books of fear
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 22:36:18 GMT

In article <98062@netnews.upenn.edu> ian@meringue.seas.upenn.edu (Ian M Glazer) writes:
>This maybe be a FAQ, but I'll ask it anyway. (If it is a FAQ then flame away.
>I derseve it.)
>
>What are the three books of fear?  I know that THE ENEMY WITHIN is part 3 and
>WITCH HUNT is part 1, but what if Peart talking about? Someone please help.
>It's been bothering me for awhile.
>
>Ian Glazer
>ian@eniac.seas.upenn.edu
>
>"I'm not giving in..."

	Well, I always thought that the books refers to _Native_Son_, a great
book by Richard Wright...  It is a great book, see if you notice similarities,
I did, and got an A on a paper I did on that subject.  The second song is 
"The Weapon" on p/g./...


-- 
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From: Don.Bruder@altern8.mi.org (Don Bruder)
Sender: FredMail@altern8.mi.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Red Barcheta
Date: 20 Nov 92  12:54:58 EST

 MH> From: hurben@lamar.ColoState.EDU (Mike Hurben)
 MH> Newsgroups: alt.music.rush

 MH> I have seen enough bastardized lyrics!!

 MH> My uncle has a country place, that no one knows about
 MH> He says it used to be a farm, before the Motor Law
 MH> Now on Sundays I elude the eyes, and hop the Turbine Freihgt
 MH> To far outside the Wire where my white-haired uncle waits

THANKYOUTHANKYOUTHANKYOU!!!!!!!
I too have seen enough of the well-intended but totally scrambled lyrics for
what has to be one of the best songs they ever did. I am forever in your debt
for your CORRECT version being posted here!
On with the show...

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From: jj6707@meibm26.cen.uiuc.edu (John E Jablonski)
Subject: Re: Other bands...
Organization: CCSO College of Engineering Workstations
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 03:40:44 GMT

In article <1992Nov12.174228.13890@news.nd.edu>, jmillar@thomas.helios.nd.edu (jay millar) writes:
|> Other bands/artists I enjoy include:
|> 
|> Spin Doctors (excellent new album)
|> 
|> Well, what do you think?

Finally--someone who likes at least one member of the HORDE!!
From: vcsc458@sfsuvax1.sfsu.edu (Roy J.)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: What do other Rush fans like?
Date: 16 Nov 92 22:43:58 GMT
Organization: San Francisco State University

In article <1992Nov16.003051.14336@epas.toronto.edu> bernie@tagsun.med.utoronto.ca (Bernie Charlton) writes:
>It seems like everyone who bothers listing their non-Rush
>musical tastes goes for the Floyd/Genesis/Yes side of things,
>with a smattering of new stuff like Jane's Addiction... 
>Anyone like me out there?

No.
From: cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Slartibartfast)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Rush's (Worst?) song
Date: 17 Nov 92 20:40:24 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

In article <1992Nov17.080656.3716@nstn.ns.ca> GEN4073@Husky1.StMarys.Ca (STEPHEN BECKETT) writes:
>
>> |> My choice for worst Rush songs (or, least awesome Rush songs :-)
>> |> would be.......Tai Shan, High Water, Hand Over Fist, and
>> |> COuntdown, with COuntdown being the worst of all. I wonder if
>> |> Neil got hit on the head before he wrote the lyrics to that one!
>> 
>> Countdown!?!?!?!?!?!?!
>> 
>> That's one of their BEST songs you schmuck!!
>> 
>> Sincerely
>>   John 
>=-=-=-=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-
>I completely agree with you there, John.  Countdown is excellent.  In fact,
>IMHO, Signals is RUSH's best CD....a flawless album.

	I don't know about that, I will give you that musically, it might be
their best, but from a recording standpoint, it is seriously flawed, the 
guitars are mixed too timidly, while the synths that are meant to be used as a
backup environmental thing, are brought up too much.  I would love to see it
remixed and rereleased, it might just be the best album ever released by any
rock group if that occurs, right now, though, it is simply good.

I think that the band members feel the same, and have publicly said it, but I
don't have any proof, anyone on the net have some?
-- 
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From: kevinc@PROBLEM_WITH_INEWS_GATEWAY_FILE ()
Subject: Re: Neil
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 19:52:34 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard VCD
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Ryan Abrahamson (abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu) wrote:
: Did anyone else read that little thing about Neil being gay in TNMS?
: 
: I think its bullsh-t!!!!!!!!!
: 
: He dosen't even have a lisp:-)
: 
: Oh well first cancer, now a queer, what next, maybe Hitler reincarnated?
: 
: -- 
: Ryan Thomas Abrahamson:                    North Dakota State University
__________________

     First Question - Does Neils Wife/X-Wife? know that Neil likes
  it in the butt now.  

     I've been a Rush fan for about 12 years now and have heard every
  rumor imaginable...... but this one is probably the most unimaginable
  of all. Given the fact that Neil is kind of a free spirit type of 
  individual, it doesn't suprise me in the least to hear that he decided
  to get a little adventuresome and pop into the local gay seen.

     But for cryin out loud, I'll bet my wallet that his anal pore is
  still of virgin status. Nope, just another case of tabloid trash
  running amuck. However it did provide for a quite lucid visual of
  Neil holding a single 747 with nylon tip eagerly doing the wild thing.
  Ha, I had to laugh.

  K. Cyrus

  No, these views are mine and if you care to flame go ahead....I flame
  back.
   
From: Don.Bruder@altern8.mi.org (Don Bruder)
Sender: FredMail@altern8.mi.org
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Red Barcheta
Date: 19 Nov 92  08:36:44 EST

 S>  Turbine Freignt.  BTW, the poster raised a good question, what is the
 S> Motor Law?  Any help?
 
My personal feeling is that the song is taking place in a not-too-distant
future, where cars owned by indiviuals are no longer legal. Shoot me down if
this is too far off base... 
The "Motor law" being the common way of referring to the
pollution/crowding/SOMETHING reduction legalese that, from the tone of the song,
is not really all that popular with the populace?
 
After all, hasn't he (The uncle) saved this car through the years for the person
doing the driving? And done so in a way that implies that automobile is either
all-out illegal, or, at the very least, a major faux pas? (Otherwise, why have
it literally buried under debris in the barn?)
 
Just my own 2 cents on a song I think of as possibly the best that this group
has done (Even though I can honestly say I've never heard a Rush tune I didn't
like... I just like some better than others...)
From: aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: LedZep intimidates Rush fans-Still!!
Date: 18 Nov 92 10:38:12 GMT
Organization: Department of Computer Science, University of York, England

Slartibartfast (cka52397@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu) wrote:
: aaron@minster.york.ac.uk writes:
: >JPJ is very successful in the realm of film soundtracks - more than 
: >Rush are now or are ever likely to be....
: 
: Vangelis, by your reasoning is more succesful than rush

  With regard to films yes, otherwise no. Doing film soundtracks won't make
  you famous even if it is a laudable area of musical endeavour as noone
  stops to watch the credits. It's nice to see him keeping himself [JPJ]
  off the dole though...

                Aaron           aaron@minster.york.ac.uk
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From: saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu (Brian E. Saunders)
Subject: Re: Rush's worst song
Organization: University of Wisconsin - Madison
Date: 17 Nov 92 18:08:26 CST

In article <102343@bu.edu> jaeger@buphy.bu.edu (Gregg Jaeger) writes:
>
>PERHAPS WE COULD KILL THIS PATHETIC THREAD AND GET ON WITH ANOTHER?
>
>Sincerely :)
>
>Gregg

Nope.  Sorry, Gregg - this is one of those threads that gets beat to death,
finally fades away, but gets brought up again two weeks later to start the
cycle all over again.
-- 

Brian E. Saunders			saunders@luther.che.wisc.edu
From: jm012b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (Jeffrey P. Moon)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: More on the NMS/Rush convention
Date: 17 Nov 92 01:12:42 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov16.222849.2490@bnr.ca> albertr@crchh780.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Albert Reva) writes:



>The convention is going to happen....awesome...I'm making reservations!!!

>albertr

	I'm sorry. I must have fallen asleep. Is there a convention coming
up? If that's true, would someone post any information they have on it? Or
is my leg being pulled by you goofy guys on the net?

Jeffrey Moon
University of Rochester
New York
From: 001738a@ace.acadiau.ca (GEOFF F L APPLEBY)
Subject: RUSH'S BEST SONG!!!
Organization: Acadia University
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 18:36:48 GMT

Just for a change of pace, why not talk about out favorite group's best 
song? My vote...La Villa Strangiato, followed by Jacob's Ladder.

Anyone else, or would you rather talk about their worst?!?!?
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From: "mike rizzello" <mike.rizzello@canrem.com>
Subject: xanadu or zanadu
Reply-To: "mike rizzello" <mike.rizzello@canrem.com>
Organization: Canada Remote Systems
Distribution: alt
Date: 16 Nov 92 23:08:26 EST

WCD>Last week I was taping some of my favorite Rush songs for my
WCD>girlfriend who wanted some really good travel music.  I was
WCD>debating on whether to give her the A Farewell to Kings version
WCD>of Xanadu or the Exit Stage Left version.  That's when I
WCD>noticed that the spellings were different on the two albums.  I
WCD>assumed that the spelling Xanadu on the forementioned album is
WCD>correct because it came out first, but then I could be wrong.
WCD>So which one is it Xanadu or Zanadu?

 I'm sorry to say that you may have a fake ESL!  My versions of AFTK and
ESL have correct spelling.  Well Zanadu sure beats 'Kanadu' off of the
Rush One and Rush Two bootlegs.  I wonder who's incharge of correcting liner
notes, hey, maybe that's what Quayle could do after Jan. 20th?

Mike


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From: uslave@mcl.ucsb.edu (Sir Prize!!!)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: Quotes
Date: 20 Nov 92 19:55:23 GMT

Art as expression-
Not as market campaigns- 
Will still capture our imaginations.
Given the same
State of integrity,
It will surely help us along.

and

Some are born to move the world-
To live their fantasies,
But most of us just dream about
The things we'd like to be.

and

They shoot without shame,
In the name of a piece of dirt
For a change of accent,
Or the colour of your shirt.
Better the pride that resides
In a citizen of the world,
Than the pride that divides
When a noble rag is unfurled.

and

Run with wind and weather
To the music of the sea, 
All four winds together
Can't bring the world to me,
Change the wind around the world,
I want to look at life in the available light.

and...and...and...:)

...and, of course, what's in my .sig.....


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From: abrahams@plains.NoDak.edu (Ryan Abrahamson)
Subject: Re: Red Barcheta
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 01:30:55 GMT
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

In article <92318.120342MDD114@psuvm.psu.edu> <MDD114@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
>The lyrics are:
>
>My father hs a country gaze that no one knew about...
>He said it used to be a farm until...
>
>Until what, this is my question.....
>
>Is it ...until they mowed the lawn?
>
>And what behind?  Fears Behind?  Im not quite sure.  If anyone who is more enli
>ghtened than me can post the real lyrics because I just cant tell what He is sa
>ying.

It's hard to tell through all the tipos what you are really asking, because
you didn't even get down what you think you know correctly. :-b

hmmmmm.......
-- 
Ryan Thomas Abrahamson:                    North Dakota State University 
       Sorry if I sound stupid I just don't have my FAQ's straight         
        "Ladies and Gentlemen the Professor on the drum kit" -Ged
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                      abrahams@plains           (BITNET)
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From: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl (Leo Breebaart)
Subject: Re: TNMS and alt.music.rush (was: Re: Rush's worst song)
Reply-To: leo@ph.tn.tudelft.nl
Organization: Delft University of Technology
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 1992 13:17:07 GMT

jeffo@uiuc.edu (J.B. Nicholson-Owens) writes:

> Until a new album comes out, the same old discussions on Ayn Rand,
> 2112, Hemispheres and a handful of other topics are just going to
> circulate again.  I don't think there's much to discuss about this
> rock band other than who enjoys what Rush songs.

Which is exactly why alt.music.rush (or, heaven forbid,
rec.music.rush) was such a lousy idea to begin with.
A mailing list, yes. A newsgroup, no.

Even then, discussions about e.g. 'favourite songs' are potentially
entertaining, if only people would come up with some original ideas on
the subject. Instead, all we ever get is the eternal

    "Frankly, I don't like Countdown very much"
    "HOW DARE YOU SAY THAT ASSHOLE CUONTDOWN IS THERE *BEST* SONG!!"

flamewar. And the one time when someone seriously tried to compare
Rush lyrics to Marillion lyrics, it immediately degenerated into a
'Rush is much better than Marillion anyway' stream of dreck.

-- 
Leo Breebaart  (leo @ ph.tn.tudelft.nl)
From: analog@mentor.cc.purdue.edu (Mike Monahan)
Newsgroups: alt.music.rush
Subject: Re: New Album?
Date: 23 Nov 92 20:35:54 GMT
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center

In article <By5oL8.GAn@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius) writes:
>I don't *believe* this is a FAQ...
>sorry if it is...
>
>Rush's studio schedule would put their new album up around
>fall of '93... (going on the every 2 years rule of thumb)
>
>Does anybody know anything about this?  Release date?
>(approximate) NAME?
>
>Thanks.
>
>* * * * *
>
>Marius
>ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu
>
>* * * * *
>


	Okay, take this with a grain (or maybe a rock) of salt.

	I have a friend (here we go) who's uncle works at Tower
Records in NYC, and consequently meets and/or corresponds with all
sorts of people "in the know", including the occasional band member.
Anyway, this uncle says that the new Rush album is shaping up to 
be a concept album along the lines of Hemispheres or 2112.

	Can anyone out there confirm or refute this tantalizing rumor.
Or if not, theorize on the ramifications of this kind of move on the 
part of the band, ie. is it a step in the right direction, or an act
of decadence?

				Thanks,



	The Analog Person-(Michael J. Monahan) analog@mentor.cc.purdue.edu
	Suffering is the origin of conciousness-Dostoyevsky
	We will pay the price, but we will not count the cost-Neil Peart
	Well, the silly party has won.  I believe this is largely due to 
	the number of votes cast!- Monty Python's Flying Circus 
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