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Date:         Tue, 6 Oct 1992 17:50:16 EDT
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From:         ARNOLD@MICRODES.MHS.COMPUSERVE.COM
Subject:      Re: CD-ROM on AT&T Starlan UN

To: CDROMLAN POSTINGS

>         Does anyone have experience adding a DOS-based CD-ROM
>database to an AT&T Starlan server running UNIX.  This seems          as
though it >should be simple and yet I haven't been able to          find
anyone doing it.  It seems >that AT&T had a CD-ROM drive          ready to
ship before they bought out NCR >and then the product          was
scrapped.  Now it seems they won't release UNIX >drivers          that
would allow mounting of the drive as a UNIX file system          which
>could then be shared across the Starlan.

We at Micro Design have a product called SCSI Express which is available
for AT&T UNIX.  The software allows you to mount a CD-ROM under UNIX and
have it appear as a standard UNIX filesystem.  Then through Starlan, DOS
users can access the CD-ROM.  If you would like more information you can
contact our sales department at 407-677-8333.

- Arnold Jones
arnold@microdes.mhs.compuserve.com
Micro Design International, Inc.
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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 12:53:46 MST
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: UPS for CD-ROMs?

On Wed, 7 Oct 1992 13:31:13 CDT Jim Aagaard said:
>Since CD-ROMs can't be updated, logic would seem to indicate that only
>the file server (using SCSI Express) needs to be protected by a UPS.
>But does anyone know whether the server might hang up or refuse to
>close its own files when the attached CD-ROM drives have lost power?
>
   We don't use a UPS on our CDROM system, but do on our online catalog
Unix box.  We can then shut down the system 'gracefully' before powering
off, in case of a long outage.  UPS prices are coming down enough I'd
be tempted to buy a bigger one to handle the whole system in most cases.
Have you done any experiments?  I think I'd want to try just what you
describe (when I was watching, no patrons on system, etc) to see what
the results are.  I imagine the results could be quite different with
different hardware/software configurations.

dan

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Date:         Wed, 7 Oct 1992 08:35:09 EDT
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From:         Steven Kirby <kirby@ATHENA.CS.UGA.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Cdroms on a campus network
              "solrccc@GSVMS2.CC.GASOU.EDU" at Oct 7, 92 6:13 am

We're in about the same situation as our friends down at Georgia Southern.
Right now we have 28 CD drives and about 20 workstations dedicated to the
LAN, but our broadband connection opens up the prospect of up to 400
machines on campus with the ability to connect to our network.  As Cheryl
put it, a good menu program can pretty much take care of the licensing
issues.  We selected Direct Access Network instead of Saber Menu, but my
impression is that both are fine programs that are worthy of consideration.
Most of our CD products are licensed for 5-10 simultaneous users.  We may
have to increase that for a few products if demand is sufficient to warrant.
Total cost for licensing, as I recall, was around $40,000.  Hardware costs
were pretty reasonable, too.  We're running a 486-33 mhz EISA server with
32 megs of RAM, mirrored 1.4 gig fixed discs, Netware 3.11, and (of course)
SCSI Express.  Total hardware costs, including upgrading most of our public
workstations to 286s, was under $50,000.  Our strategy here at Georgia is to
make the most heavily used databases available through GALIN, our online
information system (which used to be called an OPAC).  So the costs noted
here seem to me to be reasonable for providing multi-user access to moderately
(as opposed to heavily) used databases.

As an aside, I was interested to hear how the folks in Statesboro have dealt
with Lexis on their LAN.  We're fixing to add it to our LAN in the near future.
I'd be very interested to hear how others have dealt with the restrictions
that Mead places on public access to this service.  Probably best to email me
direct, since this topic has nothing at all to do with CD-ROMs.  Thanks.

--Steve

Steven Kirby
University of Georgia
kirby@athena.cs.uga.edu
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 10:42:00 EST
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From:         "D.E. 'Dave' Bloomberg" <BLOOMBER@FAUVAX.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: a question on setting up a lan

    Hi Tom,

    $5K may be doing things on a tight budget.  Novell ELS II is
    probably almost $1000 if not more.  File servers should be FAST
    with BIG hard drives (IMHO).  CD-ROM service can be set up
    several different ways; we use CBIS CD Connection.

    I would double and a half the 5K$.....

    Pioneer DRM-600 are not good choices for a cdrom network, since
    they are reallly not a jukebox, but a single player with access
    to multiple disks, and they are slow doing that.


    Beep me personally if you'd like more specifics....

    Dave Bloomberg
    BLOOMBER@FAUVAX
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From:         Nick G Carter <ng_carter@CCMAIL.PNL.GOV>
Subject:      TEXEL CD DRIVES

     The September '92 issue of Information Today has a fairly long blurb
     (p.19) on these drives.  It says that you can request an "evaluation
     sample" from Robert Tatar at 800-886-3935.  NEC also has a very fast
     (280 ms access, 300kb thruput) 'double speed' drive, designated the
     CDR74.  I understand that they will do an upgrade of any CDR73 drive
     for $149.  We are running 11 NEC CDR73s and 72s on a large (9000+
     workstations, up to 35 miles distance) LAN, and in the 2 years they
     have been up, the only problem I've had is a spring that became
     detached in one of them (it was very easy to fix.)

     Nick Carter
     Automated Systems Administrator
     Hanford Technical Library
     Battelle Northwest
     ng_carter@pnl.gov
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From: DGH@herald.divinity.yale.edu (Duane Harbin)
Subject: Re: SCSI EXPRESS and MSCDEX Extensions?
Organization: Yale Divinity Library
Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 14:10:24 GMT

In article <asimard.37.0@emr1.emr.ca> asimard@emr1.emr.ca (Andre Simard) writes:
>From: asimard@emr1.emr.ca (Andre Simard)
>Subject: SCSI EXPRESS and MSCDEX Extensions?
>Date: Thu, 15 Oct 1992 11:22:49 GMT

>Hello everyone.

>Is it possible to put SCSI EXPRESS on a Netware 3.11 server and get OXFORD 
>and LE PETIT ROBERT running?  They each DEMAND that MSCDEX be loaded.

>We have no problems at all with Computer Select and Termium (they don't need 
>MSCDEX to run).

>If there is no way around it, anyone knows where I can get a cdrom extension 
>driver that works with SCSI EXPRESS?

>Thanks

>-- 
>Andre Simard
>asimard@emr1.emr.ca
>----------------------------
MDI has a utility called MDICDEXT.EXE which will report the appropriate 
network volume to applications which insist on MSCDEX. It has worked for me 
with a number of cranky applications. It is available on their dialup BBS, 
but you have to call ahead to arrange access. The phone numbers are included 
in your SCSI Express documentation.

Let me know if you need additional information.
Duane Harbin
Information Services Librarian
Yale Divinity School Library
409 Prospect Street
New Haven, CT 06511-2108 USA
203.432.5289
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Date:         Fri, 9 Oct 1992 16:39:30 -0400
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From:         "John M. Wobus" <jmwobus@MAILBOX.SYR.EDU>
Subject:      Re: FC Equipment
              07 Oct 92 10:50:27 PST." <9210072251.AB03614@mailbox.syr.edu>

In message <9210072251.AB03614@mailbox.syr.edu> you write:
>I'd be interested in hearing what software people are using on their
>computers when doing FC.
>
>We have David's PowerBook setup so that when it's turned a FileMaker
>database is automatically opened.  This FileMaker database has a large
>area where David types, and a smaller area next to it where the facilitator
>can enter comments (like "I asked David what he wanted for lunch").
>
>This works OK, and provides us with a record of his progress, but
>there are drawbacks to using FileMaker.  He often likes to play with
>the trackball and sometimes manages to switch out of FileMaker into
>other programs like the Finder.
>
>What are other people using?  Or are people using computers at all?
>
>Also, if one were to write some custom software for using with FC,
>what features would people want?

Timmy is not too advanced--a poor typist and he basically types
one-word answers.  He uses a typical word processor on the Mac with our
largest font and with auto-repeat turned off.  The word processor we
use is WriteNow.  We use a Mac Plus.

I can't think of much I would add for someone at Timmy's level.

John Wobus
Syracuse University
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Subject: facilitated communication
Date: 14 Oct 92 20:19:58 GMT
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From my own experience and what I have heard from others the more
emotional stuff comes when the child decides and that it is not easy to
bring it out.  With my daughter I find that much of what she types sometimes
is related to who she is typing with and what she expects the purpose to be.
For example when she types with us it used to be hard.  We did get answers,
even to questions that might deal with emotions, but it was hard to get her
to persist in getting an answer.  Currently she is starting a new school
with facilitation being her means of communicating.  When she first brought
homework home, we explained that this is homework and I knew the teacher
had explained the importance and purpose of homework, so when I had her
type answers I found alot less resistance and much easier movement.  But if
we ask questions about things out of the realm of homework, such as what did
you have for lunch, it doesn't come as easy.  It's like she has put the
purpose of typing with us to be homework and other than that is still difficult
for her.  With other people typing with Shawna, we have found that this also
holds true, but then the more it is used in this context the more it flows
over.  I think it is kind of like she thinks of it as a means of answering
questions but might not think of it conversationally until it has gone on
for quite a while.
   I'm not professional with this, so I'm reluctant to give advice and offer
it with the idea I may be wrong, but I don't think you can push it.  Possibly
asking questions related to things like "how do you feel", or if you see a
reaction to something asking about the reaction.  Although if the reaction
was strong I would think it may be difficult to bring it out, so you might
want to start with something of a light, amused reaction, rather than
something like a strong reaction to a child screaming or something.  My
daughter takes some situations like that almost like they are being directed
at her.  If other professionals have different opinions please offer them.

Thanks,
Ray Kopp
Syracuse, New York
Internet:rjkopp@mailbox.syr.edu
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Date:         Mon, 12 Oct 1992 21:06:48 -0500
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From:         James Bordner <jobg0542@UXA.CSO.UIUC.EDU>
Subject:      expressing emotion

Carolyn writes:

>                                                       I mentioned this to
> point out that being a 'controlled autistic' is not always beneficial to the
> individual - sometimes I think it is better to let autistic children express
> their emotions in whatever way they want (provided their behaviour is not
> self-injurious) rather than trying to teach them that that is not the way
> 'normal people' behave.

Very good point-- I doubt keeping emotions "bottled up" is very healthy,
so in a way, not allowing autistic children to express their emotions in their
own way may itself be considered self-injurious in some sense.  The hard part
is, of course, finding a method of expression that is both acceptable and
one they can use.

When I was young I became very interested in music.  I started learning to
play the organ and singing in my church choir when I was around 10.  I think
this has helped me a lot over the years.  First, it gives me an "emotional
outlet"; I've received several comments from people about how emotional my
organ playing is.  Also, I find practicing very relaxing-- when I get stressed
out over having lots of homework or whatever I sit down at my keyboards and
play through a few Bach works.  The problem with that is I tend to loose track
of time and spend hours playing when I should be doing other things.  Like,
say, my homework! :-)

Someone recently asked about play therapy for autistics.  Has there been
anything along the lines of music therapy I wonder?

--james
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From:         "(Michael Peirce)" <ForDavid@OUTPOST.SF-BAY.ORG>
Subject:      FC Equipment

I'd be interested in hearing what software people are using on their
computers when doing FC.

We have David's PowerBook setup so that when it's turned a FileMaker
database is automatically opened.  This FileMaker database has a large
area where David types, and a smaller area next to it where the facilitator
can enter comments (like "I asked David what he wanted for lunch").

This works OK, and provides us with a record of his progress, but
there are drawbacks to using FileMaker.  He often likes to play with
the trackball and sometimes manages to switch out of FileMaker into
other programs like the Finder.

What are other people using?  Or are people using computers at all?

Also, if one were to write some custom software for using with FC,
what features would people want?

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From:         "(Michael Peirce)" <ForDavid@OUTPOST.SF-BAY.ORG>
Subject:      Re: facilitated communication

In Regards to your letter <199210141916.AA20259@ames.arc.nasa.gov>:
> To anybody who would like to answer,
>
> My 7 year old daughter, Natalie, has been facilitating since the middle of
> february.  The "stuff" that I get from her is very functional, i.e.:"May
> I have a drink, please?" or "Time for bed", or when asked why she is
> self stimulating on something (her fist or my bald spot on my head) she'll
> reply, "I like it."
> My question is this; How can I take her to the next level?  How do I guide
> her into the good emotional "stuff" that I hear others talk about?  How do
> I get her to initiate the conversation or the communication session?
> does anybody have any ideas?
> For informational purposes:  They are using facilitated communication at
> her school and they are having some successes.  It is still very basic and
> she is only responding to questions.  They are trying to teach her
> pragmatic reading and math skills.  They are using story boards to guide
> her day and it seems to be working as far as her behavior is concerned.

Going to the next level can be tough.  David sometimes gets beyond
the basic "I want a treat" and "I want to play", but not always.

It helps that he has a terrific speach therapist at school who draws
hom into fairly detailed conversations.  At home, I try to find a
quiet time to initiate longer conversations.  He seems more open to
this when he's not so much otherwise occupied (not self-stimming much,
not hungry, or expecting something).

Also, be very careful not to assume what your daughter is going to
type.  There have been times when I though David was done spelling,
but then given a little more time he adds more - often changing the
nature of what I though he wa saying.

Hang in there and good luck!

P.S.  David also responds "I like it" when asked about self-stimming
behavior.  Interesting.

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Date: 16 Oct 92 22:18:44 GMT
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I couldn't resist saying "HELLO" to Italia!!!My parents have relatives
there.Best wishes from Bayonne,New Jersey........Ciao.
                                                     Rosanne V.Farber
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Subject:      Re: Question

 Dawn Sutton at SUNY asks about differences in autism across cultures.
This is exactly the reason why I am browsing this list from Italy.
However I began to do this too little time ago. Perhaps you will have
an opinion of mine next month. Best regards.
                                              Stefano Palazzi, MD MPH

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From:         LNCJB@CC.NEWCASTLE.EDU.AU
Subject:      Re: Kanner's syndrome

Lyle,

I can't see why not! Wasn't Kanner's Syndrome originally called 'Infantile
Autism' - meaning that the child appeared to develop 'normally' at a later
stage. I might be thinking of one of the other supposedly different types that
have received different labels over the years..... but I think they're all
High Functioning Autism and it's just the age at which the majority of the
symptoms seem to disappear that is the major difference between all of them...
with the exception of a number of different subtypes that may exist.

You've always sounded HFA to me and I wouldn't worry too much about which
particular label any of the medical profession wants to attach to us, we're
pretty much alike under the surface. :-)

If my belief that the development of autism is stress-related has any
foundation in fact, then the onset could occur at any stage in the first few
years: pre-, peri- or post-natally. If the symptoms were present from birth,
then I would suspect that the 'stress-incident' occurred sometime before that
... so according to the way I view things - Yes, it is possible!

Carolyn
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From:         glad@DAIMI.AAU.DK
Subject:      Re: Addendum
              "AUTISM%SJUVM.BITNET@vm.uni-c.dk" at Oct 15, 92 4:32 am

>
> I think I was less than clear in what I meant when cautioning people to
> avoid romantising autism.  I know that many subcribers to this list
> are diagnosed HFA's and I was in no way referring to them.  However,
> when I first posted about my sister, I received or saw a number of replies.
> When reading most of them, I thought most writers had a good grasp of what
> autism was and what its inherent problems were.  However, I got the feeling
> that a few perceived autism as a general personality type, and as
> I hadn't yet posted some of the more extreme aspects of my sister's behavior,
> I could see how they might have arrived at that conclusion.  I just wanted
> to put out a general caution that autism was a real problem, and they
> should consider it as a whole before accepting the label.

It would be nice if someone would post a short list of the most common
acronyms used on this list. E.g. what is HFA? What is MD? Even though
working with computers give you some guessing skills, I can't figure
out all of the abbreviations.

As for the subscribers and the 'popularity' of the label, I think this
list has an appeal for quite a few people who will never be labelled
autistic.

I myself get a lot of personal food for thought from reading the list.
A lot of the correspondance, e.g. the discussion on empathy, gives me
some input I have never received from other sources.

If people suffer from some undiagnosed disorder and read stuff in this
newsgroup that can help them understand what's the difference between
them and the rest of the world, it may be natural for them to wonder if
they're high functioning autistics.

Michael