HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: large compress, not enough memory...
Keywords: help
Date: 14 Aug 92 15:19:32 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <tlhilde.713763363@roby.ecn.purdue.edu>, tlhilde@roby.ecn.purdue.edu (Troy Hildebrand) writes:
| Ok, I have a 386SX(16) with 2Meg of ram... about 1.2 Meg free after bootup.
| 
| I think i just did something rather foolish, and am wondering how long
| it will take to finish.  I have a 1.4 Meg tarfile, which I decided to
| compress.  Thing is, the tar file is larger than my memory, and it is
| taking a long time to finish.

  Memory should not be a problem, although your /is/ rather small.
Compress takes about 650k to run, max, at least on my other systems. You
probably have that much memory free, or at least are not paging your
brains out. The real problem is that (a) you don't have much memory for
disk buffers, either, and (b) the SX16 is a total pig.

  I'm running one with 12MB and X is really slow (I have the FPU) while
recompiling the kernel takes about 2 hours. Next week I'm getting a
386DX40 w/ cache, and that should help considerably. Maybe the best $179
I ever spent, actually.

  The funny thing is I built the box for Linux out of spare parts after
I upgraded the last system. Now I'll have a spare motherboard and case
again, and a disk controller, and a cheap VGA... I really don't /need/
a 4th system, so this time I may sell it off after I build it. Probably
with Linux installed...

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From: chiu@wk211.nas.nasa.gov (Ing-Tsau Chiu)
Subject: Problem w/ folppy boot when CD-ROM is attached to scsi controller
Organization: NAS, NASA Ames Research Center, Moffett Field, CA
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 19:35:37 GMT
Distribution: na

I got the following message when booting Linux 0.97 from floppy

  aha1542_queuecommand: Two concurrent queuecommand?
  70 00 02 00 00 00 00 0a 00 00 00 00

I have an Adaptec 1542B scsi controller and a Toshiba XB3201 CD-ROM
drive.  The computer is a clone 486/33 w/ Maxtor LXT-535 scsi disk.

I did get the floppy to boot by taking out the CD-ROM drive, but I
would like to know what caused the above error message.  Thanks.

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From: tucker@yuppie.enet.dec.com (David Tucker / KC4ZGO)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Does anyone have GNU fax working?
Date: 16 Aug 92 19:25:10 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation


I am going to try to use the GNU fax s.w. with my new FRECOM Fax96 card.
Before I go to a lot of trouble I thought I'd check if anyone has
already compiled it for Linux.  It requires Ghostscript which I've
seen mentioned, so can I assume Ghostscript is already avail. on
the ftp sites?

Regards, 
David Tucker @ATO / tucker@yuppie.ENET.dec.com
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From: mdr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Mark D. Rutherford)
Subject: executables in linux
Reply-To: mdr4@po.CWRU.Edu (Mark D. Rutherford)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 92 22:55:38 GMT


I'm currently running linux .95.  Several times now, I've FTP'd
something, tar'd it to floppy, and then untar'd from linux,
and tried to execute what I've untar'd.  I get the message,
"Cannot execute binary file"  The directory listing for the file
says that it's executable, and it's docs say it's executable.
I'm sure it's something simple that I'm missing.  Can anyone help?

Thanks
Mark

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From: jbm@cyclone.sbi.com (Jeffrey B. Moore)
Subject: Re: Linux Logo
Reply-To: jbm@cyclone.sbi.com (Jeffrey B. Moore)
Organization: The Internet
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 23:03:41 GMT

| Perhaps someone who knows postscript would be willing to redo the logo
| in raw postscript, instead of Aldus Freehand?  That would be a lot more
| portable, not to mention faster to image.....

I'll give it a shot.  Damn, that machine-generated PostScript (not the
logo itself :-) is *fugly*!  While both GhostScript and Sun's PageView
gag on the thing, our QMS printer was willing to churn out the image.
I'll whip up something which renders similarly in greyscale (since
that's the only way I can proof it) and makes an attempt to provide
the proper hooks for the color; then maybe someone with a color output
device could do final tuning.

-Jeff Moore (jbm@sbi.com)
From: copernicus@digund.uucp (Copernicus) 
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: XView, olvwm, and OLI
Date: 18 Aug 92 19:29:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: Digital Underground - PRIVATE
Reply-To: copernicus@digund.uucp (Copernicus) 

To: scottd@cs.hw.ac.uk

SDC:>Subject: Re: XView, olvwm, and OLIT

SDC:>I am also looking for xview.  I do have the source and when gcc2.2.2d is
SDC:>released I am going to attempt to make it.  Assuming, that is, that noone
SDC:>has already done it.

Can't answer this one.  I WOULD like to get a working shared binary of
xview.  Seems all of them I get dump core.  I have only had this problem
with xview.  (I HAVE the 75dpi fonts installed and olvwm works wonderfully)

SDC:>When will gcc2.2.2d be released?

There is a copy of it on TSX.  But I could not get it to uncompress when
I brought it into my Linux 0.97pl1/extfs system.

SDC:>Also, gwm, where can I find it?

I have the code.  But I cant find yacc to compile the thing.  If you ever
get it built PLEASE post the binary to TSX or the new archive site.

Chris.
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From: rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy (x3357) OGT)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Disk/tape drive and vendor info needed.
Date: 12 Aug 92 19:43:58 GMT
Reply-To: rion@Ingres.COM (Rion Cassidy (x3357) OGT)
Organization: Ask Computer Systems Inc., Ingres Division, Alameda CA 94501

In article <Aug.10.23.22.47.1992.8181@theophilus.rutgers.edu> rapatel@theophilus.rutgers.edu ( Rakesh Patel) writes:
>
>
>Will the Colorado tape drive work through the floppy controller as a
>third drive? The controller I have is one of those IDE, 2 serial, 1
>parallel, 2 floppy controllers, and I already have two floppy drives.

This definitely works, as I do it all the time with my system.  You may need to
get a special floppy cable with three connectors, but it shouldn't cost more 
than $10.  Be sure to get a good IDE controller as some cheapos (i.e. $15) 
don't seem to handle three floppy-type devices real well.
From: ce12+@andrew.cmu.edu (Christopher Aaron Ekberg)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: 64Mb on HD limit?
Date: 14 Aug 92 13:15:42 GMT
Article-I.D.: andrew.weX29yq00iUxQ5=ZN7
Organization: Freshman, Chemistry, Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA

Hello,

I read someplace that there is (was?) a limit of 64Mb hard disk space
for Linux.  If I didn't just dream that, is that still true for 0.97?  

Thanks,
-Chris
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: joef@extro.ucc.su.OZ.AU (joef)
Subject: Re: Problem exiting X
Organization: Sydney University Computing Service, Sydney, NSW, Australia
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 23:38:46 GMT

rohrer@fncrd6.fnal.gov (Keith Rohrer) writes:

> [Re: Not restoring proper charset on exit of X..]

>I get the exact same problem with my ET4000 (Swan Palette Plus card,
>with the variable oscillator and a HiColor chip), but ONLY IN SVGA TEXT
>MODES.  The card drops back to 80x25 just fine.  Except I never use
>80x25 any more, but the 132x60 mode that I discovered my card supports...
>*nothing* understands that mode without being taught it.  But it does
>this in 132x44 mode, which Linux *does* know about by default.
>Is Linux automatically resetting the crystal to one that syncs in the
>80-col. text modes, rather than setting it to whatever it was coming in?

   Well some wonderful person mailed me [And I unfortunatly deleted your
message in a mail box purge..] and ftp'ed a new xinit onto here. Now I 
haven't even LOOKED at the source, I just used the binary and it worked fine.
Whoever your are you are a godsend. Anyone who wants it,

  ftp.su.oz.au [I think..? or ftp.ucc.su.oz.au] /tmp/vgaxinit.T.Z

  Works fine. The person who did put that there, mail me or post so you 
get the credit you so rightly deserve :)

   Also, someone mailed me about using the command:

   runx startx

  And that restores the text mode properly.


         Joe

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From: david@ods.com (David Engel)
Subject: Re: shared libs
Organization: Optical Data Systems, Inc.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1992 15:45:19 GMT

Looks like Jim beat me to the punch, so I'll only add a few comments.

Jim Winstead Jr. (jwinstea@fenris.claremont.edu) wrote:
: In article <1992Aug14.040459.29047@cs.ucf.edu> hab@engr.ucf.edu (Hubert Bahr) writes:
: >Not when HJ only provides GCC only as a binary using jump tables for
: >it.  We are forced to use at least GCC with jump tables.
: 
: Ahem.  prep.ai.mit.edu:/pub/gnu/gcc-2.2.2.tar.Z, and
: banjo.concert.net:/pub/Linux/GCC/gcc-2.2.2.tar.Z will give you the
: most current source for GCC.  If you're that ocncenred with not using
: jump-table libs, compile it yourself.  :)

In the latest test release (soon to be the latest public release),
both normal and jump table shared binaries use the *same* shared image
so they can happily coexist on a single system without wasting disk
space because of multiple images.  If you don't want the stuff you
compile to use the jump tables, don't link with the "-jump" option.
If that's not good enough for you, then do as Jim says and compile GCC
yourself

: >I for one want to know that I have an up to date source library for all
: >the software I use.  I also want this library compilable with the current
: >make files and utilities.  Yes it will take extensive work to automate
: >this recompile effort, but I think the dividends are multifold, 1st If
: 
: Um, I'm glad you have the diskspace to keep the source around, and the
: time to recompile everything.  Most of us don't.

Same here, I'd rather spend my time on more productive ventures.

: >I check things when they have just been changed, the changers will probably
: >be more responsive to bug reports.  2  New versions of GCC and libraries
: >are usually to fix bugs or performance flaws.  How can I take advantage
: >of those changes without recompiling anyway.  3.  I can take advantage
: 
: Most GCC/libc releases are to fix bugs in libc - with jump table
: libraries, just copy the new library into place and *all* binaries
: linked against the jump table libraries use the new routines.  No
: recompilation necessary.

I can only think one compiler problem we've had since v2.2.2 and it
was due to a library bug.  Just think, GCC itself could have been
fixed automatically had it been using jump tables libs at the time.

David
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Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: S_ESPENLAUB@rzmain.rz.uni-ulm.de (Klaus Espenlaub)
Subject: Which mouse should I buy??????
Organization: University of Ulm, Germany
Date: Mon, 17 Aug 1992 15:17:58 GMT
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.23

Hi folks,

I'm going to buy a new mouse for my machine. Can give me a tip
which mouse works with all OS I'm going to work (that is DOS, OS/2
and Linux). I've heard that 3-button mice have problems with
OS/2. My current plan is to buy a LogiMouse S9 (because it's not
so expensive). Every help is appreciated and every suggestion will
be taken in decision.

Please mail the suggestions directly to me (address as in the header),
because for the next few weeks I'm not very often at university.

Thanks for all
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
From: Upholder@uiuc.edu (THE Upholder of Truth)
Subject: Re: Installing Linux under OS/2 Boot Manager
Reply-To: Upholder@uiuc.edu (THE Upholder of Truth)
Organization: The University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (UIUC)
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 02:45:43 GMT

sundaram@cps.msu.edu (Divya Sundaram) writes:
>I would like to be setup like this:
>	C:	120MB IDE HD:
>			1 MB Boot Manager partition
>			119 MB Linux Partition

Concerning just the c: drive, I *HIGHLY* recommend using at least two
linux partitions (in addition to a swap partition if you want one) that
are roughly equal in size.

The reasoning behind this (above and beyone the usual reason concerning
filesystem corruption and/or failures) is that you can tar one partition
and temporarilly store all of its information on the other and upgrade the
first filesystem.

(ie, tar cfzv /tmp /usr   and then  mkefs /dev/<whatever /usr is> and vice
versa for the root partition).

This allows easy upgrades to new filesystems without backing everything up
to floppy and then restoring it.

This also gives you the option of using either the 'standard' minix-style
filesystem (limited to 64M/partition and 14 characters/filename) or the
alpha extended filesystem (4 TERAbyte paritions and 255 Chars/filename).

However, you'll need to upgrade the kernel to at least 0.97 to use an
extended filesystem as a root filesystem.  In your case, you should be
able to just FTP the bootimage-0.97.Z and rawrite it to disk.

(NOTE: I have been using the extended fs (version 4) for over a month
now without a single problem that wasn't the direct result of a stupid
action on my part... however, your milage my vary).


>I recall that Linux 0.96c (which is apparently what I have downloaded) does
>not support partitions >64MB. How does this effect my setup?

It's the filesystem that affects the size of the partition allowed...
and there is less limited filesystem available.. see above for the details.
(you will need the .97 kernel or better to mount an ext fs as root 'tho)
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From: alansar@ccs.northeastern.edu (Mohammad Al-Ansari)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Support for TMC 950 SCSI controllers
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:26:45 GMT
Organization: Comp. Sci. @ NU


The faq says that a patch for TMC 950 SCSI controllers was posted to the
net and that it is going to be incorporated into the Linux package soon.
Where can one get this patch? Is it at any of the ftp sites?

Thanks a lot in advance.

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From: pechter@ocpt.ccur.com (Bill Pechter)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: Can I use dd on my UNIX system instead of Rawrite?
Date: 13 Aug 92 20:44:56 GMT
Organization: Concurrent Computer Corp.,Information Services

In article <1992Aug12.053539.14825@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> smace@nyx.cs.du.edu (Scott Mace) writes:
>>
>don't forget you need to do dd bs=8192 if=Image of=/dev/PS0
>
>bs = bootsector and you need this for the kernel boot disk in order for
>it to work.  I don't no what will happen if you don't use the 'bs'
>option.


I've always thought bs=block size of file structure your writing or the
tape blocking factor which is 8k here.

At least that's what it is here, perhaps linux is different?

Curious...
Bill

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From: laredo@cc.gatech.edu (Nathan I. Laredo)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Re: shared libs - can everyone be happy with this?
Date: 17 Aug 92 15:22:10 GMT
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

In article <d-dyhz_@rpi.edu> maniattb@cs.rpi.edu (Bill Maniatty) writes:
>In article <1992Aug17.065450.28834@colorado.edu>, drew@ophelia.cs.colorado.edu (Drew Eckhardt) writes:
>|> In article <NOP.92Aug16220027@theory.Mankato.MSUS.EDU> nop@theory.Mankato.MSUS.EDU (Jay A. Carlson) writes:
>|> >In article <1992Aug15.042420.18914@serval.net.wsu.edu> hlu@phys1.physics.wsu.edu (Hongjiu Lu) writes:
>	[Stuff Deleted] 
>|> Also, if we ever unbreak Linux, writing to code space should trigger
>|> a segmentation fault - it's like it is now because the estdio library 
>|> was broken, and wrote to the code. 
>	Does linux permit self modifying code (by design or bug)?
>	This seems like a pretty bad ``feature''.

Hopefully we won't start another nasty chain here.. but someone correct
me if I'm wrong, but I've always been from the school that said that
all static variables went into the code space, otherwise how would
they be loaded in.  If one cannot modify the code space then I would
see it as impossible to modify a static variable.   In effect when you
declare something static and you modify it, haven't you modified your
code?   If we lost this ability, then I would see it as quite tricky
to implement static declarations with some elaborate loader that would
have to be implemented.  As it stands, design is simplified, and there
is no sacrifice in execution speed.   If a programmer wants to modify
his code or store values within the code, we should let him.   There's
only one reason to protect that, and it's to protect the programmer from
himself or herself.   Any programmer that intentionally modifies something
in code space will most probably know what is going on.  As to integrity
issues, if you make it to break, it's your fault.

Yeah, it's not the best view, but it's the way I see things.   I don't
want to start any long debates on the issue, so if you disagree with me,
reply by email.  "Oh I love mail" - The Count, Sesame Street.
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From: newbie@dylan.camb.inmet.com (Chris Newbold)
Subject: Need help booting with shoelace
Organization: Intermetrics, Inc.
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:52:53 GMT

I've been trying to get Linux to boot off my hard disk using shoelace. I've
read the readme and look through the FAQ, but I still can't get it to work.
I'm sure I just don't understand what I'm _really_ supposed to do, so if
someone could straighten me out I would appriciate it.

My system has 2 SCSI disks; the first has DOS/Windows and OS/2 partitions
as well as the OS/2 bootmanager. The second drive is set up as follows:

	20MB primary partition -- DOS/Windows temporary scratch area
	80MB extended partition for Linux with the following logical drives:
		22MB Linux root -- /dev/sdb5
		8MB Linux swap -- /dev/sdb6
		50MB Linux usr -- /dev/sdb7

Note that the device names are new, following the 0.97 rootimage convention.
So, I assume: /dev/sdb == second hard disk, /dev/sdb1-4 == four primary 
partitions and /dev/sdb5-15 == logicals in extended partition.

This is what I did: Installed Linux in its partitions and got it running
booting from a floppy. Did a "laceup /dev/sdb5 wini". Put shoelace in the
root directory and config in etc. Edited config to point to my bootimage.
Added the Linux root partition to the OS/2 bootmanager.

Now, when I star my machine and select Linux from bootmanager, the screen
clears, I get a beep and about 20 chars of garbage at the top of my screen.
Then it locks.

I know I've done something wrong, but I can't figure out what I _should_ have
done fromt the shoelace readme. I know about the problem booting a partition
not on a cylinder boundary; how would I go about checking that this is not
my problem? What steps should I use to get this up and running? Thanks for
any help.

And, the most thanks of all to Linus and those who have put so much effort
into Linux. The system is great! I've had fewer problems than with Windows
and OS/2!

-Chris


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From: cmenser@nyx.cs.du.edu (Charles Menser)
Subject: Re: EISA bus machines
X-Disclaimer: Nyx is a public access Unix system run by the University
	of Denver for the Denver community.  The University has neither
	control over nor responsibility for the opinions of users.
Organization: Nyx, Public Access Unix at U. of Denver Math/CS dept.
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 92 12:13:12 GMT

In article <1992Aug23.054741.316@athena.mit.edu> tytso@ATHENA.MIT.EDU (Theodore Ts'o) writes:
>
>   From: cc_s525@kingston.ac.uk (Francis Bell)
>   Date: 22 Aug 92 14:10:56 GMT
>
>	  The FAQ says that Linux won't run on EISA machines. Can anyone
>   explain why, and suggest how difficult it would be to remedy ?
>
>That's not strictly true; if your EISA machine has a ISA floppy
>controller and a ISA graphics card plugged into, then Linux should be
>able to run on it without any problems.  In fact, I think I remember
>someone reporting success with this configuration.

Is an ISA floppy controller needed? If so, does the 1740 (Adaptec) sport
a floppy interface (As I read the SCSI FAQ the 1740 is supported)?

[stuff deleted]
>
>								- Ted

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From: mcguirk@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Dan McGuirk)
Subject: Re: How do I get rid of vt100 graphics chars?
Followup-To: comp.os.linux
Reply-To: mcguirk@enuxhb.eas.asu.edu (Dan McGuirk)
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe AZ
Date: Wed, 19 Aug 1992 05:46:37 GMT

Well, I had my question answered in record time.  Thanks to Krishna
Balasubramanian <balasub@cis.ohio-state.edu> and Zeyd M. Ben-Halim
<zmbenhal@netcom.com>.

In summary:

^O and ^N toggle between character sets 1 and 2
^[(B and ^[)B reset charsets 1 and 2 (respectively?) to normal
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From: jdough@unf6.unf.edu (Joseph Dougherty)
Newsgroups: comp.os.linux
Subject: Thanks for Deskjet help!
Summary: my gratitude to all you Linus hackers
Keywords: deskjet, printer, mess, line feed, blecch, foobar
Date: 13 Aug 92 12:48:53 GMT
Organization: University of North Florida, Jacksonville


	I didn't get the opportunity to reply toeach of you individually,
so I hope this compensates.
	I received lots of advice, shell scripts, source code, and comfort
from people regarding my rpinting problems with the Deskjet. Things are
working fine now, and I am continuing to try each suggestion to find the 
best one.

	My gratitude is great. This is what the net is all about.

	Thanks again.

Joe Dougherty

jdough@unf6.cis.unf.edu