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From: alan@tsd.arlut.utexas.edu (Alan Martin)
Subject: Re: Grass field at 49er's
Organization: Applied Research Labs, University of Texas at Austin
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 23:01:10 GMT

jag@unislc.uucp (John Ganske) writes:

>This George Toma, ace ground keeper, stuff always kind of cracks me up.
>I suppose the guy knows grass, but for heaven`s sake he works in Kansas
>City.  The stadium in K.C. does NOT have grass.

This has always been a hoot to me, too.  Toma is the groundskeeper for
Arrowhead Stadium and Royals Stadium, both of which are artificial.  How
does this make him the God of grass?  Beats me.  Maybe he gets extra
credit because Royals Stadium has nice fountains.

>                                                 What kind of groundskeeping
>does he do in K.C. - painting the fake turf?

Funny you should say this.  About one and a half lifetimes ago, I was
a member of the U. of Kansas Marching Band.  At the time, the KC Chiefs
scheduled area bands to come do their halftime shows, and we did one
show a season if we could work it into our schedule.  We'd show up about
three hours before the game, run through our pregame and halftime show
once, eat lunch, and then perform and watch the game for free.  A
reasonably good deal for a college kid now, but back then the Chiefs
really stunk, so we didn't look at it as a real thrill.

Anyway, one of those times, we were rehearsing our pregame entrance, which
involved us running through the endzone, and out comes a groundskeeper,
who starts yelling at ME because the band is going to screw up his endzone
paint job.  Why me?  Beats me; maybe because I was tall.  He was using a
considerable amount of profanity, so I diplomatically asked him, "Who the
fuck ARE you?" (alas, I was young and confrontational).  He responded,
with some pomposity "I am George Toma, head groundskeeper." It was a
wonderful moment of empowerment realization for me.  A reasonably well
known person (at least in NFL circles) was screaming at me, but he had no
power over me whatsoever.  I could play with him at will.  I responded,
"Well, I am Alan Martin, head tuba player, and I have a question.  Are the
football players allowed to screw up your paint job, or do they have to
stay out of the end zone, too?"  Things degenerated rapidly.  When the
band finally finished their runthrough, George and I were still in the
endzone, and his volume was quite impressive (in all fairness, up until
that very moment, he had had to scream over the band).

When he finally confronted our director (who was, of course, who he should
have talked to in the first place), I had gotten him completely out of
control.  The director later reported that George seemed to have a fairly
low opinion of me.  Then he bought me a beer.

I learned a lesson, though.  If you're feeling immature, there's no
greater fun than getting involved in an argument in which you have
no emotional attachment.  Fortunately, I curbed this urge before I
became acquainted with the net.  I believe that this phenomenon completely
explains Ed Lor and Gary Newell, however (okay, so I didn't *completely*
curb the urge).


						
						Al
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From: bergerson@cvdv79.mayo.edu (Chad D. Bergerson)
Subject: DON BOELL - NEANDERTHAL TOUGH GUY 
Reply-To: bergerson@mayo.edu
Organization: Mayo Clinic, Rochester, MN
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 13:35:42 GMT


To Don Boell,

Yes Mr. Boell, you are quite the macho man.  I don't even know how all of this
got started.  You are the one who is a drone.  all I did was to send one little
message to you telling you to "fuck off" or something to that effect.  It was
that simple.

you then responded by ranting and raving and berating me and offering me some
of the sheep that you and your stupid friends get off on.  You are one 
sick dude.  Your threatening message that everyone saw here is more than 
enough evidence to prove who is at fault here.

I think I will print a transcript of the phone message you left me, so that 
everyone can see and here what you are really like.  I think that maybe I will
send a copy of it to the President of HP so that he has an idea of what kind of
people they have working for them.  It was great.  You sounded as if you were
reading it off of a piece of paper.  You can read, right???  you sounded as if
you were ready to blow a gasket.  I haven't had that good of a laugh in a long
time.  so just chill out buddy, enough shit has been thrown around.

                            Get a sense of humor, Crow-magnon boy

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From: clg292@vaxa.strath.ac.uk
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: SON OF CRAP FOOTBALL!
Date: 8 Jan 93 13:23:00 GMT
Organization: Strathclyde University VAX Cluster

Hi there Hamish here again,I couldn't resist posting another message after the
number of flames to my last one.
Those of you who are telling me to shut up, because no one is interested are
obviously wrong going by the ammount of response there's been.
The trouble with this newsgroup and the sport itself, is that it's so
fucking boring, without an occasional post of this time the readers would
become comatosed.It seems to me you lack a sense of humour, if you care
to check out rec.sport.soccer, you will see that humour and sarcasm is
a big part of the group, with people constanly slagging each other teams,
particularly british ones.A lot of the posters talk piss just for the sake of
it, but that's what makes it's so interesting.
So a few points to raise on recent flames.
If footballers are so fit, then how come, they can only last ten minutes before
coming off and sending another team on, and what about the number of time outs
you have in the game.Mayby if you only played one team, and had a more flowing
games, I wouldn't be in a position to slag your sport,as it is sitting down to
watch a football game, which I have done is like sitting down in front of
a washing machine for 4 hours.With soccer, you get a fast flowing game, with
non-stop excitmemt.
As for saying soccer is more popular over here because we're all wimps is
nonsense,all our big men play rugby a far more exciting and demanding sport 
than football.
Also another point,why in the hell is it called football, as there is no use
of the foot in the game apart from penalty kicks, surely handball would be
a more accurate discription, soccer is proper football were skill and dexterity
are needed to control a ball with the feet instead of just chucking the ball
up the park and running with it.
For all you too stupid to understand the subtle point I made when I said
footballers were dickless, I'll explain.I was refering to the fact that
the've taken so much steroids,thier genitalia has shrivelled up and
disappeared.
For eveyone who has picked me up on my previous spelling mistakes, I
thought I would prove to you that I can spell properlly, if I sit down
and look at what I am typing.These mistakes are just due to typing errors.

By the way America has the biggest proportion of iliterate people, in the
western world, not to mention the porpotion of fat bastards you have.

come yee flame

Hamish
From: fierro@uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Dolphins SHUT OUT Chargers!
Date: 11 Jan 93 02:28:01 GMT
Reply-To: fierro@amdahl.uts.amdahl.com (Doug Fierro)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA


  Yes, slamming your own team before they play can do wonders for the 
final score, but they don't have a chance in hell of winning the
AFC championship next week :-)

  As predicted, the defense was on the mark; and as predicted, the offense
led by Marino sputtered in the first quarter.  But once Marino was given
some decent field position to work with courtesy of the Dolphin defense,
he went right to work, converting all San Diego interceptions into
TOUCHDOWNS to make the game 21-0 at halftime.

  The Dolphins were piling a ton of guys on the front line- 8 or more at
times- forcing San Diego to throw a lot.  The San Diego QB had a horrible
day with something like four or five interceptions- two by Troy Vincent,
one by Cox, (both are rookies) and the last one by Louis Oliver to seal
the fate.

  Keith Jackson came up with two big end-zone catches.  The momentum
kept going through the second half.  San Diego chose to keep their
starting quarterback Humphries(?) in the second half despite the numerous 
turnovers.  This, after all, was the same QB who won their last 11 of 12 
games and shut out Kansas City just last week, and previous playoff games
this season showed some wild turnarounds in the second half.  But San Diego
would not be so fortunate.  They failed to put any points on the board
in the second half.  Miami actually scored a rushing touchdown in the second
half by Carver(?)- and it was more than 10 yards away form the endzone.
Final score: Miami 31, San Diego 0 (I actually left before the very end, 
so they could have scored again, but Mitchell was playing QB so I doubt it). 

  Miami summary- defense created the turnovers, and Miami was able to
capitalize on all of them.  Miami was also able to limit the number of
mistakes they made at the same time.  Marino three passing touchdowns in 
this one game alone, when in the last 5 games he was averaging 1 touchdown 
pass a game.  He picked a fine time to peak :-)

  Doug
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From: reams@crchh462.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Cary Reams)
Subject: Philly Cream Cheese/Rice-A-Roni
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 20:16:05 GMT
Reply-To: reams@bnr.ca
Organization: NT/BNR

Bill Parker(?), president of Kroger Foods pulled the
Philadelphia brand Cream Cheese from the shelves
Sunday in Dallas - "as a show of support" for the
Cowboys.

So, does he pull Rice-A-Roni from the shelves
this Sunday ????

It may be time to pass the torch.

Go Cowboys.


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NT/BNR/MTXVO | Hopper Express & the Runnin' `Roos
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From: heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	)
Subject: Running out the clock with the R&S
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Date:  4 JAN 93 12:51:45    

During the offseason last year we had a little discussion about how 
useful the Run & Shoot is as an offensive philosophy.  I was sorta 
neutral.

I'm not picking sides now either BUT ... It seems to me that the R&S 
is extraordinarily crummy for running out the clock.  (Yeah, the 
Houston/Buffalo game yesterday got me thinking.)

How the heck do you run out the clock in the R&S?  Short passes over 
the middle I suppose.  But you can't run the same play over and over.  
What else can you run?  Draw plays?  Not very effective when you've 
got a big lead.  Screens?  Ditto.

JGH
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Subject: Re: Chiefs QB
From: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 13:16:08 CST
Reply-To: scott@mccall.com (Scott D. Davis)
Organization: The McCall Pattern Co., Manhattan, KS, USA
Keywords: QB
Nntp-Posting-User: scott


In article <1is8n5INNk87@matt.ksu.ksu.edu>, marshal@matt.ksu.ksu.edu (Timothy Pat Marshall) writes:
> I was wondering how any other Chief's fans felt.  Is Dave Krieg
>the QB to lead the Chiefs to a SB?  Several people have told me that
>he just needs a little more time  and he will be leading us to the
>promised land.  I have my doubts.  I think the Chiefs might be getting
>old, as a team.  They need a good proven veteran QB to lead them.
>How about Joe Montana?  I believe Krieg will always be inconsistant.
>Any other views on the matter?
>
The Seattle fans forecasted the season when we got Krieg.   I don't
know if Krieg was the problem.   It looked more like the offensive
line.  When your RBs can't run, you blame the line.  The offensive
coordinators had to go, and they did.

I think KC needs to work with Vlassic and Blundin.  These are their
two QBs of the future.

KC needs to get on track before age starts to wear down this team.
The defense is great, but they need the offense to help them.
Carter needs to learn how to handle punts, but this should be
blamed on Kurt Shottenhiemer(sp).  Also, free agency could disrupt
this team.  If they can keep the defensive players they should be
alright.  I like KC's receiving corps.  They should put Barry Word
on the trading blocks since he isn't happy.  Williams should be
their RB of the future.  With Word and Okoye holding out, it only 
hurt themselves and the team.  Descent Offensive coaches might be 
the missing key to this team.

I would hope that KC doesn't waste their time or money on Montana.
(Nothing against Montana).  Use that for something else and work
with Vlassic and Blundin.  Possibly use Krieg as a veteran backup.
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From: rfedkiw@sepulveda.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: Playoffs: Bills, Miami, S.F., Philly
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
 
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 07:10:52 GMT

Bills vs. Pitt - good REMATCH, the  Bills dominated the first one in
                 Buffalo, maybe it will be more even in Pitt and with
                 all Buffalo's all-pro hurting: Kelly, Thomas, Smith,
                 Bennet, Tasker (5 of 9) plus most of the rest of the 
                 team

Philly vs. Dallas  - another good REMATCH, they split in the regular
                     season, Eagles are back to their old form and they
                     broke the playoff jinx

S.D. vs Miami - Yawn. Let's just hope that Miami wins. Who wants to 
                see S.D. vs Buffalo or Pitt? Wake me up later.

Wash(ed up) vs. S.F. - Again, how boring can Washington be. 

----------------------------------------------------------------------

Good possibilities for title games.

AFC

Bills vs. Miami - great REMATCH, each team has won on the oppositions 
                  turf, could be one hell of an exiting game
Bills vs. S.D. - Yawn.
Pitt vs. anyone - Yawn. Double Yawn.

NFC

Philly vs. S.F. - great REMATCH here, the Eagles lost the last one by 
                  one bad spot of the ball at the end of the game
Dallas vs. S.F. - great matchup, everyone's been waiting for it like
                  the S.F. win over the Giants in week 11(?) two years
                  ago. Unfortunately Dallas can't hold a candel to
                  Parcells Super Bowl champs who came back to beat 
                  S.F. in the NFC game and to beat Buffalo in the Super 
                  Bowl. Still, not a bad matchup.
Wash(ed up) vs. anyone - Yeah, Yeah, Yeah, I'll be busy taking out the 
                         trash. Tell me who wins. On second thought,
                         who really cares? 

------------------------------------------------------------------------
                          
So let's root for San Fran, Miami, Buffalo, and Philly (or Dallas), 
and have a great playoffs.

As for the Super Bowl. I don't think anyone has their hopes up for this 
anymore. It's always BORING. We're probably in store for something
dreadful like: Pitt and Wash 
Would anyone even watch this? Not me.

(Personally I'd like to see a Buff vs. S.F. REMATCH, but the odds are slim
at best.)


               

                                         





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From: rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD DALHS ARNESEN)
Subject: Re: TOP TEN MADDENISMS
Originator: rdarnese@c00504-119rd.eos.ncsu.edu
Keywords: madden, football
Reply-To: rdarnese@eos.ncsu.edu (RICHARD DALHS ARNESEN)
Organization: North Carolina State University, Project Eos
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:23:34 GMT


  I agree One Hundred percent.  I think alot of times Madden
is trying to have fun and some uptight people take it way to
seriously.  COmeone people lighten up it's only a game *grin*.
From: dtokarew@tokafew.Doc.Provo.Novell.COM (Deb Tokarewich)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Another Mike for new Bears coach . . .
Date: 7 Jan 93 19:19:09 GMT
Organization: Novell, Inc.

In article <1993Jan7.101754.29843@lmpsbbs.comm.mot.com>  
stailey@bugs.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey) writes:
> 
> *Singletary! Wuddayathink?
> 
>  Sounds good... but he has no experience and has stated
>  that he does not want to coach for now. The Bears had 
>  already offered him a job as assistant linebackers coach
>  and he turned it down.

Well, a guy can always change his mind :-)

But, actually, the way things are with the team (and especially the front  
office), I wouldn't blame Singletary for not wanting any coaching job with  
them (though I realize he had other, and different, reasons for turning  
down that initial offer).

As for his not having had coaching experience...in a recent post, someone  
mentioned that Ditka hadn't had any when he started either. I'm sure there  
are others who also haven't had it, but who've done good jobs. Considering  
the experience Singletary *has* had as a great player, his knowledge about  
(and his passion for) the game, and his rapport with other players and  
coaches, I think he'd be more than adequate at coaching.
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From: satish@a.chem.upenn.edu (Satish Nair)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Winner of The Bet IV
Date: 4 Jan 93 21:31:56 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1993Jan4.200547.24284@macc.wisc.edu> heim@vms.macc.wisc.edu (JOHN HEIM	) writes:
>
>
>How 'bout an "I'm *not* John P. Gloria" T-shirt?
>
>JGH

I thought these went out of print long ago due to overwhelming demand!!

Just kidding John :-)

satish nair
ray is gone!
From: sas@baffin.aruba.UUCP (Steve Sciandra)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Hip Pointer
Date: 7 Jan 93 15:35:18 GMT
Reply-To: sas@opl.com
Organization: Marcam Corporation

what exactly, in layman terms is a hip pointer?  I know that
everyone thought bo jackson had one before he was diagnosed with
the muscle-pulled-from-the-hip thing..  Appearantly, Thurman Thomas
has a hip pointer, according to reports i've heard..

steve s.
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Subject: SOCCER
From: <PSYRDR@BYUVM.BITNET>
Date: Friday, 8 Jan 1993 15:38:30 MST
Organization: Brigham Young University

I E-mailed the following to Hammish and got a snotty reply.  It's a dumb joke,
but here it is anyway:

Question:  Why do so many Scottish kids play soccer?

Answer:  So they don't have to watch it! :-)

It's just a joke.
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From: blah@maas-neotek.arc.nasa.gov (MJW/TWF)
Subject: Dallas! (and SF)
Organization: NASA Ames Research Center
Distribution: rec
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 17:52:47 GMT


Ahhh, finally what a game.  It was funny that I was still quite
nervous when Emmitt "fumbled" at the mouth of the end-zone, given all
of the comebacks so far in the playoffs.  But not to worry ..

a couple of comments:

- Regardless of what anyone has written on the net, Cunningham had a
TERRIBLE game.  Absolutely terrible.  His yardage stats look good from
those screen passes on the final drive, but he was simple not
executing.  I'll give the Dallas D a lot of the credit, but Philly
fans have got to start wondering if Randall does not need some sort of
attitude adjustment.

- Speaking of the Eagles, did anyone catch Andre Waters post-game
comments?  "You just have to realize that this is just a game, it's
not that important."  Gee, Andre, I thought they were paying you
because the game *was* important.  Pro athletes really annoy me when
the bring the "it's just a game" argument up only when it suits them.
Hell, if it's just a game, then you'll play for free, right Andre?

- NO flames from the SF fans, because I lived there for the last 3
years.  The turf at Candlestick is an embarassment.  Just like
California drivers in the rain.  I don't understand how a club with as
much money as the 49'ers have cannot get a decent drainage system
installed there.  Simply pathetic.  I hope things dry up a bit (at
least) before the title game.



Mark
Go Dallas
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From: lewis@aera8700.mitre.org (Keith Lewis)
Subject: Re: Where will Joe go?
Organization: The MITRE Corporation
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 21:16:24 GMT

The In article <1993Jan4.202616.14752@pony.Ingres.COM>, daveb@Ingres.COM (Dave Brower, DBMS hack, [510] 748-3418) writes:
>sane sentiment so far is

>	Raiders
>	Chiefs

OK, I can see this.

>	Chargers
>	Steelers

Are you nuts??  He's already said he won't play backup, and both of those
teams just "discovered" great quarterbacks this year.  Their
trading/drafting assets would be put to better use in other areas.

Keith Lewis             klewis@mitre.org          "Mr. Cheap"
I don't dance to music; music dances to me.  Email me for my PGP key.
The above may not (yet) represent the opinions of my employer.
From: elm@cs.berkeley.edu (ethan miller)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Reich DOES it again
Date: 6 Jan 93 02:46:29 GMT
Reply-To: elm@cs.berkeley.edu
Organization: Berkeley--Shaken, not Stirred
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In-reply-to: mikail@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov's message of Tue, 5 Jan 1993 20:41:08 GMT

In article <1993Jan5.204108.5085@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov> mikail@cesdis1.gsfc.nasa.gov (Mikail Shams) writes:
=>	Maryland has produced some really good QBs who are now playing in 
=>the NFL.  Currently in my list I have 
=>
=>	S. Gelbaugh (Seahawks)
=>	B. Esaison (Bengals)
=>	F. Reich (Bills)
=>	N. O'Donnell (Steelers)
=>	S. Zolak (Patriots)

Don't forget Mike Tice!  He played QB at Maryland, but is now a TE.

ethan
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: YUP, FAT LADY IS SINGING!
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 1993 19:21:16 GMT

3rd QTR:  Eagles  3   Dallas   24

-- 
"A cynic is one who never sees a good quality in a man,
and never fails to see a bad one. He is the human owl,
vigilant in darkness and blind to light, mousing for
vermin, and never seeing noble game."  Henry Ward Beecher
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From: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com (Dan Smith)
Subject: Rookie Salary Cap
Reply-To: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:32:17 GMT

 Anyone have any details on the new rookie team salary cap of
 $2 million? Do all rookies contracts on a team have to TOTAL
 less than $2 million over the entire life of the contract
 (doesn't seem possible) or $2 million a year?

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