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From: suraj@microbe.med.umn.edu (Suraj Muley)
Subject: no best teams in cricket
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 18:59:40 GMT

i recently read an article saying that pakistan was the best team in
one day cricket today. i do not approve of this concept of best teams
as criket is a sport where the outcome is multifactorial. i applaud
the pakistanis for their fighting spirit and the innate ability to score
6s of the last ball but that doesn't imply that they ae the greatest team.
if they were the greatest team they should never lose a match ever.
the performances of individual players differs so much from day to day that
a team with a lot of good players (here i mean statistically) can lose to
a team with not many stars (eg sri lanka beating new zealand in the test 
match, nz almost did ver well in the world cup). i sincerely believe
that cricket lovers should not be carried away by their team's wins
(or loses) and not start making comments like "india is the best team"
etc. as this is at best childish and rather redundant.

i welcome any comments or remarks.
merry christmas to the net readers.

suraj muley.
university of minnesota
medical school.

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From: suraj@microbe.med.umn.edu (Suraj Muley)
Subject: javed miandad
Organization: University of Minnesota
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 16:21:06 GMT

javed miandad had once again proved that he is the most unsporting
cricketer the world of cricket has ever seen by blaming the schedule
for his loses. i am not sure why he needs to over emphasize his 
unsporting attitude on and of the field repeatedly. Everyone is by now
pretty much convinced about the fact. give me one logical reason to think
otherwise.

suraj muley.
From: jawad@ecst.csuchico.edu (Jawad Ali)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: India should give up. Was: SA wins the 4th
Date: 14 Dec 92 19:47:34 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: California State University, Chico
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In article <1992Dec14.165244.4488@rdg.dec.com> vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela) writes:
>No team can perform well unless they
>are beaten badly and desperately need to win.

Obviously you have never heard of the famous No Stars of the
Currajong Indoor Center C Grade.

>Look at Shastri, he lost his position in the top order batting line-up so
>to prove himself he batted well, scored runs (fast!). 

But what if he now starts to drag his feet in the final overs
but scores a quick (though game losing) 75 the one time he is
inserted as an opener. :-)

>Almost all players are now under pressure and scared of loosing there place
>in the team so this might bring out some good match in the remaining ODIs.

Imagine how much better they would do if a good, solid beating was
ensured back at the international arrivals terminal.:-)

Peace,

j n a.
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From: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Sohban Shahid)
Subject: Was it pathetic? or just a bad day
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 18:37:59 GMT
Reply-To: ss733645@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu
Organization: Colorado State U. Civil Engineering

After reading one of the article that was written
along the lines that "this is not the type of cricket
which people really expect from world cup champions
or world champions".

I rather not deny the fact that it was a poor 
performance from the Pakistan side but I am
curious to know what went wrong.  It was by all means
a dismal performance but I really like to know the
conditions under which Simmons ripped the whole 
batting line-up of the Pakistan side.  Was it
10 - 8 - 3 - 4 for Simmons?  If it was anyway near to it,
its a bad news for the Pakistani side that there is
one guy who knows how to exploit.  214 in 50 overs is
a very reasonable score but not entirely difficult on
Sydney.  

If someone has watched, I prefer a neutral observer,
this game please let us know about the details of all
the chaos.  One last question, do you really think that
the best is best in all respect?  My response is, NO.
The reason behind it is: day to day performance can not be 
same and one can make blunders that definitely is not
going to effect much what one has achieved with some
good work in the past.  So, my good indian counterparts
don't throw stone in a muddy water you might will get
dirty.

Hope we will see some good cricket from the Pakistan
side.  They let us down many times but they have the
talent to beat any side in the world on any given day.
--
 
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SOHBAN SHAHID                
Civil Engg. Dept.                (303) 491 7710/8204 (work)
Colorado State University        (303) 224 0397  (home)
Ft. Collins, CO-80523

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From: d188sid@utarlg.uta.edu (S RAMACHANDRAN)
Subject: Re: Shastri
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The University of Texas at Arlington
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 22:45:00 GMT

SHASTRI - THE RIGHT BATTING SLOT AT LAST?
=========================================
Some time back I had written an article abt Shastri, the jist of which was:
1) Shastri should bowl more.
2) Shastri should bat really low down in the order No.8 or No.9 as he can't
  play strokes in a text-bk manner  to push the score along. But I mentioned
  that he was excellent in stepping away and slogging or lofting spinners and
  thereby ideal for a late charge.

In the light of India's win this  seems to have worked well for India..w/
Shastri N.O 17 ...he is really good at slogging in tight situations or 
rotating strike (e.g., tied test at Madras) and perfect in the late order for 
the ONE-DAY MATCHES. He is good in high pressure situations but if he is put
in a situation where he has to  open then he is sort of directionless
as he doesn't have a off-side drive/cut game like Azza,Manj, or Amre. Even
for the tests he need not open as occupation of the crease without adding
much doesn't help in the start of a test..as some sort of initiative has
to be taken even in a TEST Match. But that leaves us the problem of who will
open in the Tests...but you can get around this in ONE_DAYS with the team
selection being more flexible.

It will be interesting to know who took 12 runs off the 49th Donald over and
how many balls Shastri took for his 17 IN HIS NEW BATTING SLOT! Hopefully
Shastri did get to bowl his full quota of 10 overs too.
But the man who really swung the match India's way was W.V.Raman ! Raman
is a damn good player unfortunately w/ pretty ordinary technique outside
offstump. But this doesn't matter in a One-day game...hope someone is 
able to post a description of Raman's ton w/ stats  to R.S.C. Good work
on the team selection to play Raman in all one-days up to now.... Horses
for the Courses !!

Well that's my 0.02 paise worth.
Any comments always welcome ..

Sidd.R.

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From: a2824ag@sunmanager.LRZ-Muenchen.DE (Riaan de Jager)
Subject: I can't get dougie!
Organization: Leibniz-Rechenzentrum, Muenchen (Germany)
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 11:47:20 GMT

Hi

Anobody outside SA already got dougie (the "live" score update thingie).
Its on ford.ee.up.ac.za, and I can't get a ftp connection. There has been a
new line installed between SA and the states, but it seems to be down today.
Seems like they are back on the old line.

I'd appreciate any help.

Thanks.
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From: nadusume@oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu (Nagendra Adusumelli)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Ind Vs RSA 5th 1 day
Date: 15 Dec 92 18:22:30 GMT
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept,. Athens

Plan file generated by 'Dougie', the cricket scorer.
For a realtime, full screen (insert more hype here) score update get the
dougie source from ford.ee.up.ac.za via anonymous ftp, the latest version is
pub/dougie-0.0.tar.Z      - Enjoy!

To connect to this host, use
dougie oucsace.cs.ohiou.edu 2589

     South Africa vs India, 5th D/N, Springbok Park, Bloemfontein, 15/12/92
              South Africa                               India
Hudson   - not out             43 ( 74)  Jadeja     c McMilla b Donald   9 ( 25)
Wessels  * not out             36 ( 66)  Raman      c McMilla b Matthe  16 ( 46)
Kirsten                                  Prabhakar  run out Callaghan   36 ( 57)
Rhodes                                   Azhar      not out             86 (106)
Callaghan                                Tendulkar  b DVilliers         32 ( 52)
Cronje                                   Shastri    not out             21 ( 18)
McMillan                                 Kapil                                  
Richardsn                                Amre                                   
Matthews                                 Yadav                                  
Donald                                   Kumble                                 
DVilliers                                Srinath                                
Extras  (W: 2 N: 3 B: 3 LB: 0)  8        Extras  (W: 1 N: 2 B: 0 LB: 4)  7
Total   (Ov: 24.0 RR: 3.62)    87 / 0    Total   (Ov: 50.0 RR: 4.14)   207 / 4 
             O  M  R  Wi Wd Nb                        O  M  R  Wi Wd Nb 
Callaghan    4  0  22  1  0  0           Prabhakar    5  0  16  0  1  0
Cronje       6  0  20  0  0  0           Shastri      3  0  16  0  0  0
McMillan    10  0  59  0  0  0           Kapil        7  1  24  0  1  2
Matthews    10  1  37  1  0  1           Kumble       5  0  13  0  0  0
Donald      10  2  36  1  1  1           Srinath   *  4  0  18  0  0  1
DVilliers   10  1  29  1  0  0            
                            score nearly up to date
waiting for stats
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From: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Subject: Re: India should give up Was: India lost to ....
Reply-To: vaghela@laxatv.reo.dec.com (Umesh Vaghela)
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 16:00:54 GMT


|>From: jogi@austin.ibm.com (Vijay Joglekar)
|>Subject: India should give up Was: India lost to ....
|>Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 14:04:39 BST
|>Reply-To: vijay@wizards.austin.ibm.com
|>References:  <9212151459.AA00666@mik.uky.edu> <1992Dec15.151101.15190@rdg.dec.com> <1992Dec15.163718.19388@rdg.dec.com> <1992Dec16.084031.17779@rdg.dec.com>
|>Organization: IBM (Aix Tools Development)
|>Lines: 10

|>As I had said earlier, India should give up...
|>
|>Vijay
|>-- 
|>**********************************************************************
|>               Vijay Joglekar - arbiter elagantiarum


Why should India give up? You win some you loose some....

If you weer playing for India would you give up?????

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Subject: Aus V WI ODI at MCG
From: WEABEP@DEVAX1 (Peter ABELA)
Date: 16 Dec 92 10:13:44 +1000
Distribution: world
Organization: BHP Information Technology
Nntp-Posting-User: weabep
X-News-Reader: VMS NEWS 1.11

Following is a summary of the Australia V West Indies game at the Melbourne
Cricket Ground on Tue, 16/12/92.

Australian captain Mark Taylor won the toss and batted. Australia scored
8/198. Top score was Mark Waugh with 57 off 69 balls. Damien Martyn scored
40 off 48 balls, and Steve Waugh was run out for 34 off 65. Phil Simmons took
1/22 off 10 overs, and Curtly Ambrose took 3 wickets.

In reply, West Indies were all out for 194. Apparently cruising at 2/158 off
42 overs, the Windies lost 8/36 to fall 4 runs short. Richie Richardson scored
60-odd runs off about 70 balls, and Brian Lara also scored about 60. West
Indies need 4 off the last ball to tie, but they lost a wicket (Patterson),
caught McDermott, bowled Mark Waugh. Mark Waugh finished with 5/16 off
4.5 overs. Whitney and Steve Waugh also bowled well.

So ended another exciting chapter of WSC.

This is my first article in the wide world, so please overlook any stuff-ups.
I'll probably post a few more over the summer.

The Speaker.

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Peter Abela.                                                           =
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From: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Subject: Live SA/Ind scores
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:31:39 GMT
Reply-To: ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

      You can get live scorecard by going through Dougie

      You can finger the scores  from

sankara@plains.nodak.edu            (updated as frequently as Dougie does)
ksrao@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
ksrao@energy.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu

     The scores will be automatically posted to r.c.s every half hour with just
the subject header:  SA/Ind score

    I will be minotoring so that it doesn't get screwed up as it did last
niht.


K. Sankara Rao                          e-mail k.srao@power.eee.ndsu.nodak.edu

Department of Electrical Engineering
Fargo, ND 58105  USA

Phone:  (701)237-7217  (o)
        (701)235-9912  (h)
From: dv@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu (Deepak Vaidya)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Apology for finger problems
Date: 16 Dec 92 01:17:43 GMT
Organization: Johns Hopkins Univ. Welch Medical Library

I like to apologize for the non-information provided by finger command to
dv@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu.  I had set a umask in my login file which
made the plan file non-readable to the rest of the world.  I have fixed
the problem now, but just to make sure that it is working, can anyone
test it out from a non Johns Hopkins computer, and let me know.

Thank You
- Deepak Vaidya
dv@welchgate.welch.jhu.edu
From: KSRAO@power.ee.ndsu.nodak.edu
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: score Ind/SA
Date: 17 Dec 1992 13:58:12 -0600
Organization: UTexas Mail-to-News Gateway
NNTP-Posting-Host: cs.utexas.edu



Plan file generated by 'Dougie', the cricket scorer.
For a realtime, full screen (insert more hype here) score update get the
dougie source from ford.ee.up.ac.za via anonymous ftp, the latest version is
pub/dougie-0.0.tar.Z      - Enjoy!

To connect to this host, use
dougie plains.NoDak.edu 2596

          South Africa vs India, 6th D/N, Kingsmead, Durban, 17/12/92
              South Africa                               India
Hudson     c Sharma b Shastri  15 ( 29)  Prabhakar  c Richard b Matthe  21 ( 48)

Wessels    c Manjrek b Jadeja  78 (120)  Jadeja     c Richard b Pringl  12 ( 45)

Kirsten    c Manjrek b Kapil   44 ( 68)  Manjrekar  run out Hudson      10 ( 24)

Rhodes     c Kapil b Shastri   16 ( 25)  Azhar      c DVillie b Cronje  41 ( 73)

Callaghan  st Sharma b Kumble   8 ( 12)  Tendulkar  c Cronje b Pringle  23 ( 26)

Cronje     b Shastri           25 ( 29)  Kapil    * not out             18 ( 28)

Richardsn  run out Sharma      12 ( 11)  Shastri    c Kirsten b Pringl   5 (  6)

Pringle    run out Sharma       9 (  8)  Yadav    - not out              1 (  1)

Matthews   not out              1 (  1)  Sharma                                 

Donald                                   Kumble                                 

DVilliers                                Raju                                   

Extras  (W: 0 N: 2 B: 2 LB: 4)  8        Extras  (W: 0 N: 5 B: 0 LB: 8) 13
Total   (Ov: 50.0 RR: 4.32)   216 / 8    Total   (Ov: 43.2 RR: 3.32)   144 / 6 
             O  M  R  Wi Wd Nb                        O  M  R  Wi Wd Nb 
Callaghan    4  1  21  0  0  2           Prabhakar   10  1  54  1  0  2
Cronje       6  1  20  1  0  0           Kapil       10  4  23  3  0  0
Pringle   *  8  0  33  3  0  0           Shastri      6  0  36  1  0  0
Matthews  -  9  0  32  1  0  2           Sharma       4  0  18  0  0  0
Donald       8  1  16  0  0  1           Kumble      10  1  34  1  0  0
DVilliers    8  0  19  0  0  0           Raju        10  1  45  0  0  0
                             streaky top edge shot

 handed high in air
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From: brendan@cs.uq.oz.au (Brendan Mahony)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Gamesmanship
Date: 15 Dec 92 00:05:25 GMT
Reply-To: brendan@cs.uq.oz.au


In <1992Dec10.195404.7951@gn.ecn.purdue.edu> ramakris@gn.ecn.purdue.edu (Balaji Ramakrishnan) writes:
|>I would urge the bowlers all over the world to run a batsman out if he steps
|>out of his crease and not bother about some stupid traditions.   

In <farrell.724314962@coral> farrell@coral.cs.jcu.edu.au (John Farrell) writes:
>  I would like to congratulate the Pakistani (Asif?) who declined to dismiss
>Dean Jones in this way in yesterday's match.

I would like to lampoon Asif for his complete inability to run our Jones
in this way.

--
When soldiers form lines or hollow squares, you call it reason.
When wild geese in flight take the form of a letter V, you say instinct.
When the homogeneous atoms of a mineral arrange themselves into shapes
mathematically perfect you have nothing to say. You have not even invented a name to conceal your heroic unreason."
From: ynesiah@skat.usc.edu (Yogala Nesiah)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Again and again (Re: Lanka beat the Kiwis again!)
Date: 13 Dec 1992 21:16:31 -0800
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
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I found this on soc.culture.sri-lanka.

BTW, word has it that the incentive package 
offered (after the bomb) to the New Zealanders
included an all expenses paid vacation in a
Southern Sri-Lanka Luxury Hotel. Apparently all but
five of the original team accepted and others
flew down to replace them. 

Can anybody confirm this story?
If true, it was money well spent.
This tour has done some serious good to the 
Lankan cricket program.


- Vasee


--------------------
       SriLanka won the oneday series against NewZealand 2-0 with
a 41 run victory in the third and final oneday. SriLanka scored
262/5 in their 49 overs, and then restricted NewZealand to 221.
Roshan Mahanama was the star agin with 110+ runs to his name.

        For NewZealand the defeat in the 2nd oneday was more
humiliating, when they lost the match by 8 wickets with 12
more overs to go. Roshan Mahanama was the star that time too
with an unbeaten 84.

        Although this NewZealand team was not to it's full strength
with 5 players going back after the bomb blast in Colombo, this
certainly is a moral booster to SriLankan cricket team. Although
they have been playing well in the last few series they never
managed to win a test match, and oneday series.

        Roshan Mahanama was the big success with 2 centuries in the
tests, and a century, and an 80+ in the onedays. Sanath Jeyasuriya,
M. Muralidharan, and Warnaweera are the other "new successes" in
the series.
--
                                                S. Muhunthan,

        "The shortest distance between two people is a smile"
From: 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu (Murali Iyer)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.cricket
Subject: Re: Donald, Kapil and South Africa
Date: 15 Dec 1992 19:28:01 GMT
Organization: Marquette University - Computer Services
Reply-To: 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu
NNTP-Posting-Host: vmsd.csd.mu.edu

In article <BzBDJ7.DGJ@cs.psu.edu>, tripunit@algol.cs.psu.edu (Mahesh V Tripunitara) writes:
>In article <00965147.97A502A0@vms.csd.mu.edu> 9063iyerm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
>
>>Kapil is said to have become more professional after studying Richard Hadlee's
>>professional approach. But Kapil's desire to overtake Hadlee's record is no
>
>Kapil Dev for captain! 1993-94.

This is exactly what Kapil has made up his mind not to pursue. He does not care
one way or the other whether he becomes captain, and is fully behind Azhar. In
fact, the author goes on to hint that Kapil does not even want to be bothered
with captaincy. He did entertain thoughts of being recalled as captain after
the Australian tour, but now it is all in the past. Kapil is happy to be
playing for India and that's all he cares about. 

I would have expected all players to be glad just to be able to represent their
country in a sport, and not bicker about captaincy or anything else. Just go
out there and do your best, would be expected of any professional.
Unfortunately we do not find maturity and talent, together, in too many people. 
But that's okay, as long as they restrict South Africa to less than 207 today.

:--) :--) :--)

>
>Mahesh.

-Murali
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From: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu (R. Bharat Rao)
Subject: Re: pak vs aus 1-day
Reply-To: bharat@cs.uiuc.edu
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:35:49 GMT

In article <kgf23#_@rpi.edu> divaka@isaac.its.rpi.edu (Ajay Divakaran) writes:

>	  The only other thing that comes to my mind is Kapil Dev's four
>   sixes in a row to avert the follow on in a test match against England.
>	      Netters, please feel free to cite more such cases. Viv Richards
>   used to hit sixes practically at will, but I do not know if he actually
>   swung a match around completely by hitting a six off the last ball or
>   something like that. Anyway, you know what I mean. I am sure that other
>   test and OD teams must also have pulled off similar miracles. Let the
>   reminiscences begin!
>							ajay

There is one time when a batsman WALKED in with 2 balls to go and 11
runs needed.  The batsman promptly hit two consecutive sixes to win
the match for his country.  

No this was not a ODI but it was an international match with Indian
Under 21 visiting and playing England Under 21.  It may not have been
a one day game but it was the last over on the last day...

The name of the incredibly talented lad -- Surinder Amarnath!

Even though this was not a junior match, this must rank as one of the
greatest examples of "clutch" batting in the history of cricket.  When
you how rare it is for batsmen to hit two sixes of the last two balls
of a game, to do so under the pressure of HAVING to do it is
absolutely incredible.

Bharat

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