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From: steve@bucolix.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Subject: Re: Chainlube for my BM?
Reply-To: steve@bucolix.ece.ncsu.edu (Steve Garnier)
Organization: North Carolina State University
Date: Fri, 4 Sep 1992 20:04:27 GMT

In article <Bu2Bro.Cu3@vuse.vanderbilt.edu> 
dab@vuse.vanderbilt.edu (The Nashville Flash) writes:
>>In article <1992Sep3.225415.1@acfcluster.nyu.edu> 
>>mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:
>>>BMW has NEVER made a chain driven motorcycle.
>>>Even the old, old, OLD Beemers you find in Europe (the ones with only
>>>ONE cylinder) are shaft-driven.
>In article <1992Sep04.143217.11498@i88.isc.com> 
>jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist) writes:
>>Did the cylinder stick out the right side, or the left?
>Depends if you are talking about the African or European version.  The 
>European is on the right and the African on the left.  Most of the British 
>Empire would rather have the African version because that was the side of 
>the road on which they drove.
>Oh yeah:  :-)

Guys, sorry but I just can't let this *pass*.  This guy isn't asking about
chainlube for his BMW.  He's asking about chainlube for his Bowel Movement.

Scatalogically Yours,
Steve Garnier - DoD #00000005 - '79 XS1100SF w/ 157K+ miles and *climbing*
KotF (Flame),  KotAM (Anecdotal Motorcycle),  The Daemon's Byte
       Contrary to popular belief, I am not the Devil's advocate...
                  ...but I am his speech writer.
From: scooper@wappo.ucsc.edu (Scott Cooper)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Dry Sump Lubrication
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:01:44 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: UC Santa Cruz CIS/CE
NNTP-Posting-Host: wappo.ucsc.edu

In article <10532@wrgate.wr.tek.com>, davet@loowit.wr.tek.com (Dave Tharp CDS) writes:
|> OK, enough of this hooey.
|> 
|> [treatise on dry sump lubrication systems deleted]
|> 
|>   It greatly reduces internal engine friction from oil splash drag, and
|> it prevents oil "foaming" which occurs because of the splashing around
|> and atomization of the oil by impact.
|> 
	Besides being a motorcycle fan, I am also the unfortunate owner of an
American V8 powered cage.  Knowing a thing or two about engine building, having
just gone through the despicable experience, isn't there such a thing as a
"windage tray" that covers the crankshaft and keeps oil from splashing (and thereby
causing horsepower-robbing drag) onto it?  

	Wouldn't that be simpler than using a dry sump?  Is that why I've never
heard of a dry-sump-lubed automobile?  Is there such a beast?

|> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
|> | Dave Tharp                      | DoD #0751   | "You can't wear out       |
|> | davet@loowit.WR.TEK.COM         | MRA #151    |   an Indian Scout,        |
|> | '88 K75S  '48 Indian Chief      | AHRMA #751  |  Or its brother the Chief.|
|> | '75 R90S(#151) '68 CB450(#751)  | AMA #524737 |  They're built like rocks |
|> | '65 R50/2/Velorex  '57 NSU Max  |             |   to take the knocks,     |
|> |       1938 BMW R12              | (Compulsive | It's the Harleys that     |
|> | My employer has no idea.        |   Joiner)   |   give you grief."        |
|> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Scott Cooper					1991 Honda Hawk coming soon!
scooper@arapaho.ucsc.edu
From: dnd@ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Harley wavers (was Re: Automatics)
Date: 25 Aug 92 14:33:01 GMT
Reply-To: dnd@spec0.ee.man.ac.uk (Darryl Davis (RA))
Organization: Dept Electrical and Electronic Eng, Manchester University, UK

In article <BD.92Aug25080059@fluent.UUCP> bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU writes:
>
>efw5565@zeus.tamu.edu (Evelyn - gorgeous red-headed biker babe...) writes:
>
>>BTW#2:  a Harley rider waved at me last night.  Wow.  Almost made
>>up for that incident in the morning.
>

This is just the sort of behaviour I installed the rocket-launchers on my sidecar
for!
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: alavigne@bmerh930.bnr.ca (Andrew Lavigne)
Subject: float valves.  Can you check them out?
Organization: Bell Northern Research
Distribution: na
Date: 31 Aug 92 15:53:51


Is it possible to test the operation of float valves? (outside of the bike/
carbs).  I want to see if my float valves are responsible for my gas leak.

Andrew
alavigne@bnr.ca
From: terry@prcrs.prc.com (Terry Cunningham)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: %$*#^$! Tailgaters
Date: 27 Aug 92 15:19:29 GMT
Organization: PRC Realty Systems, McLean, VA

In article <Stafford-240892132146@stafford.winona.msus.edu>, Stafford@Vax2.Winona.MSUS.EDU (John Stafford) writes:
> Tailgate discouragement system:  chew huge wads of
> tobacco and spit up and over your shoulder at speed.
> 
> Don't swallow!


Lift your visor!

-- 
 | Terry Cunningham terry@rsi.prc.com | "Let me take my chances on the wall  |
 | DoD# 541   'Debaucher of Donuts'   |  of death"       Richard Thompson    |
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: svoboda@rtsg.mot.com (David Svoboda)
Subject: Re: Countersteering a shafty
Organization: Motorola Inc., Cellular Infrastructure Group
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 15:35:11 GMT

In article <Aug.24.16.49.18.1992.1823@remus.rutgers.edu> kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
|
|> is just a way of producing the
|> required lean, very useful if you need to do it quickly.  When you
|> countersteer the bars *actually* move in the opposite direction to the
|> way that you have pushed them, at least they do in the long term.
|
|No, they don't.
|            The best presentation of counter-steering and how it
|works is in 'A Twist of the Wrist' by Keith Code, which I quoted a few
|days ago here.  

If you are speaking of the video presentation of ATotW, I have to disagree
with you.  While he does show the steering head initially turning right
(for a left turn), he they turns the bars to the left to complete the
turn.  This is in the simulation where he is sitting on the KLR and you
are looking down from the top.  There is a distinct steering head deflection
in the direction of turn.

Not saying that's right, or anything, just what the film shows.

Say, you're not *that* Kevin, are you????  :-)

Dave Svoboda (rubis@gagme.chi.il.us)        | "I just can't take
90 Concours 1000 (Mmmmmmmmmmmm)             |  this weird shit
No ratbike at the moment.  Suggestions?     |  before breakfast!"
AMA 583905      DoD #0330    COG 939        |   -- Evo Woman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: New Kawasaki
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 16:16:30 GMT

In article <thlnh!p.dosbears@netcom.com> dosbears@netcom.com (David R. Preston) writes:
>>: Sounds like the 1100 Zephyr.
>
>Buy it fast, while it still says Zephyr. According to Independent Biker
>magazine, (Ford) Lincoln-Mercury has sued and won over the use of the
>name 'Zephyr' (there's a Mercury Zephyr? apparently). All unsold and future

You mean the Mercury Zephyr I ordered is a car?  I thought I was buying
a streamlined luxury locomotive.
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
From: cam@castle.ed.ac.uk (Chris Malcolm)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: new bike .vs. vasectomy
Date: 3 Sep 92 16:54:31 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <2356@devnull.mpd.tandem.com> joe@mpd.tandem.com raves:

>a couple of items from the original provide quite a bit of insight
>into this mans situation. 
>    1) "the money she gave him"
>    2) "supposed to use for a vasectomy"
>    3) "called up" the public radio station
>
> ... manipulative, controlling, insensitve woman ... insult to human
>beings .... "give him money" to have his body
>mutilated ... abusive ... needs to control his day to day 
>financial actions ... a terribly
>disturbed and paranoid woman .... constantly reaffirm her control

Wow! I sure would hate to meet your mother! There is NOTHING in your
points 1-3 which permits these conclusions. This is _severe_ paranoia.
For example, consider the following scenario, which is plausible and
compatible with your points 1-3:

She: Honey, you've been saying for two years now that you should get a
vasectomy. Are you sure you're not holding off 'cos you'ld really
prefer me to get my tubes tied?

He: No, how many times do I have to tell you? I don't like kids and I
don't want to have kids. We'll probably not stay together forever,
maybe you'll want kids with some other guy, and I certainly don't want
kids at all, with anyone, ever. And I hate contraceptives. So I
personally want a vasectomy.

She: So what's the problem? Why haven't you made an appointment after
two years?

He: You know how it is! I just don't have the money right now!

She: Well why don't I give you money from my savings? It's for my
benefit too, and I might as well spend my money on this as something
else! How much do you need?

He: Er [thinks, how much was that bike in the dealers?] $3,000!

Joe Senner continues to rave:

>force him to mutilate himself .... confused panic stricken woman 
>publicly humiliating him ... sick person that she is ..needs to be committed
> ... the years of torture he's endured ...
>the way women today whine about inequalities ... their abusive attitudes
>... put the bitch in a womans prison ...

Having trouble with women, Joe? Have you tried the alternatives? You
certainly won't get this kind of crap from a llama!
-- 
Chris Malcolm    cam@uk.ac.ed.aifh          +44 (0)31 650 3085
Department of Artificial Intelligence,    Edinburgh University
5 Forrest Hill, Edinburgh, EH1 2QL, UK                DoD #205
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: alavigne@bmerh930.bnr.ca (Andrew Lavigne)
Subject: Re: Gas Leak - CB750
Organization: Bell Northern Research
	<1992Aug27.004249.842@cs.cornell.edu>
	<1992Aug27.013027.19187@javelin.sim.es.com>
	<1992Aug27.015523.5023@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>
	<92244.092638EGQ@psuvm.psu.edu>
Date: 31 Aug 92 14:34:16



>I have a 1980 CBF750F. I had the same problem when I first bought it, a
>year ago. I took it to the local HONDA shop and was told that the gas
>tank may be rusty, and dirt was leaking into the carbs. I had to coat
>the inside of the tank with some anti-rust stuff, then the mechanic
>cleaned up the carbs and replaced the valve on one of them. I also
>put an on-line fuel filter to stop any dirt from getting to the carbs.
>That seemed to have solved the problem.

Is this 'valve' the float valve, by any chance?  I still have my 'gas leaking
into my oil' problem on my VF500F, and I'm thinking that it might be one
of these valves.

Andrew
alavigne@bnr.ca
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: ohrd!jlevine@cs.toronto.edu (Jody Levine)
Subject: Re: My bike got vandalized last night
Organization: Ontario Hydro - Research Division
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 92 20:54:07 GMT

In article <Aug.25.12.47.55.1992.166@remus.rutgers.edu> kretz@remus.rutgers.edu (Kevin Kretz) writes:
>
>	If you offer goods or a service for profit, you are inviting
>the public to park on your property, and you are liable for their
>safety and the safety of their property. ...

If the store's sign falls on my bike, the pavement caves in and my bike falls
over or an employee kicks the sidestand up I'd blame the store. If another
customer runs my bike over it's not the store's fault.

What is negligence? If the bar faced a street and you parked on the street and 
the bike got tipped over would you sue the city? If the bar is still
responsible, does that mean that they are also responsible for walking him
home? Sure, they're not supposed to let people get drunk (nope, nobody's
supposed to get drunk in bars), but they can only cut someone off *after* 
he starts to act stupid so they're still stuck with having to deal with an 
irrational person. Is it reasonable to expect an establishment that sells 
irrationality (with the blessing of the law, no matter what anyone says) to 
protect *everyone* from *every* result of this activity? I may be in the 
minority, but I think not. There is just no practical way that the bar can 
take care of all the actions of their customers. I think that suing bars 
over drunk drivers is stupid too.

If I were you, I'd sue the cops for not being able to bring the drunk to
justice. THAT IS THEIR JOB, and they screwed up big time. 

I guess the idea is not to offer any more services than you absolutely need
to in order to maintain your business. You never know when you may get sued
over them. Don't open a bar in New Jersey, either.

I've        bike                      like       | Jody Levine    DoD #275
     got a       you can        if you      -PF  | Jody.P.Levine@hydro.on.ca
                         ride it                 | Toronto, Ontario, Canada
From: tavares@danville (Jack Tavares)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: carrying moolah on long trips
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:52:42 GMT
Reply-To: tavares@ctron.com
Distribution: usa

The Dougster (parker@gdls.UUCP) wrote:
: A friend was talking to me about his european adventures--spending
: weeks on the autobahn, beer, sightseeing, new bike deliveries and etc...
: 
: It started me wondering, though, what are safe ways of carrying
: large amounts of money (or just guaranteeing access to a large supply
: of funds) over long periods of time while on a bike, away from home,
: and maybe out of the country?
: 
: I'd thought about putting two thousand dollars credit on my plastic and
: then using that, but there's got to be other ways...
: 
: Douglas
: --
: Reply-To: gdls!parker@ilium.troy.msen.com
: DoD #1961    BMW #55821    Renting N56136
: --
: A dress is nothing but pants with one pantleg.

I don't know about Europe, but my wife and I go to canada quite often
and I usually carry only enough cash for 2 days at a time. I use the ATM
machines, and I get a very fair exchange rate from my bank. The only
possible problem is that the exchange rate is calculated when the 
transaction is processed at your home bank, not when you make the transaction.
However, currency fluctuations between US and Canada are usually not very severe.

If you plan on going to europe, or anywhere really, call you bank and
find out about there policies for exchange computation as well as availability
of ATMs that accept your card at your planned destination.

There is also nothing wrong with using you visa card. They also give
a very fair exchange rate, at least my bank does. My card also has
a 12% int rate. Not bad. 

Have fun, i'm jealous.
--
Jack Tavares    KotHO DoD# 0570 BMWMOA# 58278 AMA# 651191 BMWRA# 16087
83 R80ST	79 KZ LTD 400H (for sale) 
Sorry, but at DoD minimum speed it is impossible to speak. There is just 
too much wind noise.  At that speed I am spending all my concentration 
allowance on riding, and cannot afford anymore thought for words.
However, when I finish a ride and the bike is in the garage cooling down, 
the single word that comes to mind is:

    BEER.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jeq@i88.isc.com (Jonathan E. Quist)
Subject: Re: Speaking of triple A....
Organization: INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation, Naperville, IL
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 17:56:45 GMT

In article <QedWuc600WBL82m_YU@andrew.cmu.edu> "Peter A. Simon" <ps3p+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>daved@convex.com (David Dorfman) sez:
>>The Honda riders club (35.00/year) will arrange for free roadside service.
>> 
>>Of course, you must own a honda
>
>If I own a Honda but it's my Suzuki that breaks, will they deal with it?

Now there's a thought.  Buy the ID plate and title off a parted-out Honda
or BMW, stick it in your wallet, and join the appropriate club...
-- 
Jonathan E. Quist                              INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation
jeq@i88.isc.com  '71 CL450-K4 "Gleep", DoD #094        Naperville, IL
        There are many things a person should experience in a lifetime.
       Among them are an infant's first cry, and an infant's first laugh.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu (John Sloan)
Subject: Re: AAA says Deer Whistles No Good
Organization: Scientific Computing Division/NCAR Boulder, CO
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 19:01:53 GMT


Within recent memory, CAR&DRIVER magazine (so sue me) reported a study
done by the Ohio Highway Patrol on deer whistles. Some cruisers were
equipped with deer whistles, and some (the control group) were not.
There was no statistical difference is the number of deer-related
accidents between the two groups. Say what you will about the Ohio
mounties -- they may have a reputation for wearing mirrored sunglasses
and carrying machine pistols, but they also have a reputation of being
the best trained state patrol in the nation. If they thought deer
whistles has _any_ effectiveness, they'd recommend them. I'm inclined
to believe the study.

--
John Sloan              "Since I've given up hope,       +1 303 497 1243
NCAR/SCD                   I feel much better."      Fax +1 303 497 1137
Boulder CO 80307-3000 USA                           jsloan@ncar.ucar.edu
Logical Disclaimer: belong(opinions,jsloan). belong(opinions,_):-!,fail.
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: datasbld@bnr.ca (Datasbuild)
Subject: Re: Winter Storage in Boston Area
Organization: BNR Europe Ltd, Maidenhead, UK
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL5
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 13:00:24 GMT

David Dorfman (daved@convex.com) wrote:
: The winter is fast approching , give or take a few months,
: and I need to find a place to store my ST1100 during Dec,
: Jan , Feb etc..
: 
: Anybody have any ideas???
: 
: I might be willing to pay a little money for a safe dry space
: near Chelsea, MA
: 
: send email to daved@convex.com
: 
: thanks
: Dave
: 

Sure, just ship it over here.  I'll _look after it_ for you, NO problem!  Is it
true that your bikes are speed restricted to 85MPH?

Never ridden an ST1100, heard that they're real cows...


Nick (the Flippant Biker)   DoD 1060   MAG 73516

M'Lud
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu (Alex Matthews)
Subject: Re: Earplugs
Originator: matthews@ajsh
Organization: JILA, University of Colorado at Boulder
Date: Mon, 31 Aug 1992 03:34:46 GMT

In article <1992Aug31.020900.26184@wam.umd.edu> kkw@wam.umd.edu (Katarina Wong O'Gara) writes:
>Mack's ("pillow soft") silicone earplugs, available at Rite Aid, ...
>block out wind and road noise better than the normal foam type.

What is their decibel rating?
-- 
-Alex Matthews (matthews@ajsh.colorado.edu)
DoD #0010   
"It's too pure, too unrefined."  - Lance Holst, August '91
From: thompson@Apple.COM (Paul Thompson)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Leaning - uphill easier than downhill
Date: 28 Aug 92 13:57:31 GMT
Organization: Apple Computer Inc., Cupertino, CA

moseley@u.washington.edu (Steve L. Moseley) writes:

>I haven't noticed any problems with left hand versus right hand turns, but I 
>get intimidated by downhill turns. The steeper the turn, the harder time I 
>have with extreme lean angles. I'm sure part of it is the increased 
>tendencany to accelerate through the turn,  but I think most of it is 
>psychological. Most of my peg scraping seems to happen on uphill turns.

There is a very real (not psychological) factor at work here.  When you are
going downhill, less cornering force is available than when you are on level
ground.  And when you are going uphill, more cornering force is available.
The effect is very similar to the camber (banking) of a turn - a positive
camber turn can be taken faster than a negative camber one.

Incidentally, your brakes work much better uphill than downhill as well, 
for the same reason.  You've no doubt noticed the increased traction 
available, and perhaps attributed part of it as just psychological.  If
you ride aggressively enough to scrape pegs, you need to be very aware of the
slope and camber of the road, as they affect your available traction 
considerably.

-- 
Paul Thompson    Apple Computer    DoD #47    Would you remember a 1-line .sig?
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: jet@win30.nas.nasa.gov (J. Eric Townsend)
Subject: Re: Do factory tinted shields have UV protection?
Organization: Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation, NASA Ames
Date: 28 Aug 92 12:20:49
Distribution: na

"james.bessette" == james.bessette  <jimbes@cbnewsj.cb.att.com> writes:
james.bessette> This doesn't answer your question about Shoei's but...

The hi-def shoei shield is supposed to screen something like %70-80 of
UV.  I can vouch that it does cut a significant amount -- I don't have
to wear sunscreen if I use the hi-def, but if I use my clear shield,
I'll get burnt after a few hours of bright-sunlight riding....

james.bessette> Here (at Holmdel Bell Labs) they had this little thing
james.bessette> you could test your sunglasses for UV protection with.

I wonder if nasa has something like that around here....
--
             J. Eric Townsend --  jet@nas.nasa.gov -- 415.604.4311
           '91 CB750, soon to be replaced by a '92 R100R, DoD# 0378
      "Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads.  Heads." -- R & G Are Dead
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: lawrence@lynx.msc.cornell.edu.UUCP (Lawrence H. Smith,E20 Clark,56064,2726746)
Subject: Re: Winner of the Official(tm) (bs) DoD Ba
Originator: lawrence@msc2.msc.cornell.edu
Organization: Cornell-Materials-Science-Center
Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1992 18:18:14 GMT

>>	I don't want a pickle,
>>		I just want to ride on my motor-sickle.

And let's not forget the "explanation of the pickle", relating how
come the Pickle is in the song, after a bit of going on about 
how he's been singing this dumb song for 12 years. Arlo's riding down
this road, his guitar string snapped, and wrapped around a sign, which was
fortunately on the side with the 1500 foot cliff, as opposed to the
mountain, and he thought up the song, and went to write it down, 
and needed to put a new ink cartrige in his pen, (all while "plummeting")
and insted of dying at the bottom he landed on a Po-lice car, which
adsorbed the impact, and rode off at 150 MPH singing his new song,
and he got into town, and this guy shoved a pickle in his face and
started asking questions, and there was this wire running out of the
pickle, up the guy's arm, down his leg, out and over to a briefcase.
And then this 4 foot cop (that looked like he used to be a 6 foot cop
before being landed on by a motor-sickle...) shows up, writes up a
ten foot ticket, blows a 3 inch bullethole in this monster pickle 
(the size of 4 pregnant watermelons) rolls up the ticket, stuffs it
in the hole, and rams it down Arlo's throat. "It was right then that
I _knew_ I didn't want a Pickle. I just wanted to ride my Motor-sickle..."

DoD# i