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From: braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca (The Didi-Sprite)
Subject: The Hay Ride Continues - Part One!
Originator: braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca
Organization: SOCS - Mcgill University, Montreal, Canada
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 16:34:44 GMT

----<--<@

The hay wagons roll smoothly down the yellow brick road.  The sun
overhead beams down his evening warmth while a delightful little 
breeze stirs the branches of the elms, oaks, maples, and birches 
that lean  protectively across the track.

"Oh, the stars at night
     are big and bright
	 deep in the heart of ... "

"Give it a rest, Darling!"  laughs the Didi-Sprite, as Lord Galdrin
goes into *yet another* chorus of 'Deep in the Heart of Texas'.

Just then ... "Mithtreth?  Ith't time for honey yet?"  asks a certain
roly poly teddybear.

"Not yet a while, Ramda.  Besides," and Didi pauses with a significant
look, "it seems to me you wouldn't have room for honey just now.  Aren't
those chocolate chip cookie crumbs I see all down the front of your
coat?  Hmmm?"

"Ooopth!"  and a slightly pink hue begins to slowly suffuse Ramda's
fuzzy cheeks.

"Woof!"  chortles Binky, the Old English Sheepdog, enjoying his freind's
discomfiture.

"Oooh!  Look, Galdrin!  There's the bridge!  Remember to turn left once
you are on the other side!"  Cries the -Sprite, bouncing excitedly up
and down on her cushion and very nearly falling off the wagon.

"What's up, Didi?"  asks Nathan who is sitting behind Didi and beside
Caithelin, who is demonstrating what she considers to be the best
technique for flying a kite.

"We are coming up on our destination, Nathan!"

"I didn't know we had one ... other than returning to the meadow,
eventually!"

"Good grief!  Of course we have a destination!  Today is August 13th,
you know!"

Nathan looks at Didi and smiles, then turns back to Caithelin wondering
who could argue with logic like that!

The wagons rumble across the bridge, the hollow sound echoing and rever-
berating through the woods.  Lord Galdrin excecutes a perfect left turn
and the Clydesdales continue at a brisk clip-clopping pace.  

"Hmmmm, -Sprite?"  queries His Lordship,  "Have you noticed that the 
bricks on this road are no longer yellow?"

"Well, of course not!"  giggles his navigator.  "They're orange and
maroon wavy stripes!  Brumby, Dear ... do get your nose out from under
my cushion!  There's plenty more hay in the back of the wagon!"

----<--<@

The Didi-Sprite
Montreal * Canada

braley@binkley.cs.mcgill.ca

Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: rip@sequent.com (Paul T Taylor)
Subject: Re: Re: Responsibilities of Artists (was Re: Pornography and Playboy)
Organization: Sequent Computer Systems Inc.
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 07:05:47 GMT

In article <122420110@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
>In alt.callahans, sjane@bmers248.bnr.ca (sjs) writes:
>
>> In article <122420105@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> daq@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Doug Quarnstrom) writes:
>>
>> >If truth, rationality, and the ability to penetrate propoganda were
>> >the panacea you suggest, then all logical and intelligent people
>> >would believe more or less the same thing.
>>
>>   *bzzzzt* faulty argument: conclusion cannot be deduced from premise.
>
>Bzzzt bullshit.  Your argument is that logic will enable people to
>see through propaganda to truth.   This suggests that if propaganda
>is seen through that there is a truth to be seen.  I am saying that
>all there IS is propaganda.  If YOU were right, then all logically
>trained people would have very similar thougths.  They do not becuase
>in the end, WILL is deteminative of truth.

But isn't one of the things that really makes this world a wonderful
place to live in the idea that even if you have 100 people all
trained in logic look at a propaganda, you will likely get 100
different 'truths'?  I don't really agree that all there is *is*
propaganda, I do think that were we get into trouble is when we try
to force our own idea of 'truth' down other peoples throats.  Those
of us with a strong WILL, will probably have a better chance of
hanging on to our own truths better than others...

>> In any case, I do not mean to suggest that logic is the be all and the end
>> all.  It *is* a useful tool and as such I think it should be taught.
>
>I agree with this.

I think it would be better to teach our children the way to reach
their own truths, and how to stick to them.  But that is just my own
twisted ideas...

Later,

Paul

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Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: JMPIERCE%USMCP6.bitnet@VM.TCS.Tulane.EDU (JIM PIERCE)
Subject: lots and re: Alfvaen on the haywagon
Organization: Yale CS Mail/News Gateway
Date: Sun, 16 Aug 1992 09:18:55 GMT


  "Shortstop ??? Hmm. Oh ! You mean Third base !" DJ.

  "Boss, I think you are nuts !" Linda.

 "No, I'm just listening to my friends here in The Place..." DJ.

 "Manx, I agree with the Doctor. Let the dweeb go, although it would
be what it deserves... " DJ.

 "Welcome back Toothpick !" Robbie.

 "Well, so do we," LInda and DJ.

 "Modeming in from home at 2400 bps is reallllyyyy ssslloooowww," Dj.

 "Boss, aren't we missing out on a hayride ?" Robbie.

 "Can't be ! We are in the wagon with Alfvaen and Timothy !" Linda the
Starship.

 ^^^--  "Why did you do that part boss ?" Robbie the 3' robot.

 "I got bored. Its 4:15 AM here at home... Well Didi, maybe I did say
that," DJ.


   Haven't caught up yet. If anyone has lost access, good luck and see
you when you get back !


   Snark, I'm connected to a Bull CP6, makes for great word-games at my
University job. 'Oh, you need the Bull to do that homework !' Almost
got me in trouble. An instructor thought I was making fun of a student.

Favorite quote: 'Quazzi, did you forget we are going to the Quackadero
                 today ?' Anita.
  { From a cartoon/animation by Rose Cruickshank, Snazzle Films, San
    Francisco, CA. }


* <JMPIERCE@USMCP6.BITNET> Jim "NickD." Pierce; Bach. Sci. in Appl. Cmp Sci
* USM Academic Computing on the Gulf Park Campus. Disclaimer: Standard.
* "I'ts still Rock 'N' Roll to me !" Billy Joel.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: ajm@wag.caltech.edu (Abner J. Mintz)
Subject: Hello?
Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena, CA
Date: Tue, 18 Aug 1992 19:43:14 GMT

Just out of curiosity, in the last few days, the number of posts appearing here
has dropped to the single digits.  Is this normal, or is the feeder acting up?
Inquiring minds want to know ...
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: lower-tony@CS.YALE.EDU (Tony Lower)
Subject: WANTED: Asbestos
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 15:55:33 GMT


   Manx walks into the place with soot all over him and small
fires still going on his shoes.  His face is downcast as he
uses a bartowel to wipe off his face.  "Three vodka tonics,
Mike, and hold the tonic."  Mike serves up the drinks, but his
eyes almost pop out as Manx (Callahan's unofficial tetotaller)
actually DRINKS them, in quick succession.  Manx walks (rather
unsteadily) up to the line and hefts all three glasses.

	"to being " 
	     >crash< 
		" a Nice " 
		    >Crash!< 
			"PERSON!!!" 
			    >>>--C-R-A-S-H-!--<<<

   "g-goddamn it..." Manx mutters as he wipes at his face with the
back of his hand.

   "Over the past few days, I've had to put up with all kinds of
people who really PISSED me off... I was doing okay until I saw
this posting in another group.  Some poor soul was trying to get
a message to someone who didn't have email, but did have news, or
something like that.  So the guy made a message with a nice little
contol-L sequence, and addressed it perfectly politely.  Kind of
thing that this group would have been proud to have in our hallowed
halls.

   "Well, I don't know if this guy got a response from who he was
looking for, but some asshole decided it would be fun to bitch the
guy out for the post.  Someone else came along to say that the
asshole was "a ninny" (polite understatement if I've ever heard
it), and of course got caught in the flaming."

   Manx gestures at his clothes, "Well, you can guess who was NEXT
to get involved.  I can say, without boasting, that I just finished
writing the most polite letter of my _LIFE_.  I was understanding,
compassionate... I tried (hard as it was) to see things from his
point of view, and to convince him that there were more constructive
ways to put his sentiments.  He responded with several recommendations
that are physiologically unlikely."

   Manx sighs deeply. "Now the problem is, I'm pissed off at this
guy as I have seldom ever been pissed off at anyone save government
officials and phone operators.  AND, I know enough programming tricks
that I could make his computer life a modern hell.  But that's not
what I want... what I WANT is to pound his stinking face through the
back of his head!  Now I'm NOT a violent person, so how is it that
this shithead can make me feel this way?  What's more, where is there
any justice in this situation?  This twit gets his jollies by flaming
complete innocents, bitching out people who try to help him, etc.,
and the people who are trying to be nice sit there and feel nothing
but this hollowness right below the rib-cage.... That and murderous
wrath that they aren't going to act on."

   Manx slumps back into a chair. "Shit... I hope I'm getting a load
of good karma for this..."
From: randolph@cognito.EBay.Sun.COM (Randolph Fritz)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: Time musings
Date: 18 Aug 92 13:17:24
Organization: St. Dismas Infirmary for the Incurably Informed
NNTP-Posting-Host: cognito.ebay.sun.com
In-reply-to: rowanf@crc.ricoh.com's message of Mon, 17 Aug 92 23:44:01 GMT

In our cultural history, there was a nova at just the right moment.
The nova was observed by -- I think -- Tycho Brahe, and shattered
Aristotelean ideas of the unchanging, ever-repeating heavens.

__Randolph Fritz  sun!cognito.ebay!randolph || randolph@ebay.sun.com
From: lower-tony@CS.YALE.EDU (Tony Lower)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Invisible Idiot, PART TWO
Date: 12 Aug 92 23:35:20 GMT
Organization: Yale University Computer Science Dept., New Haven, CT 06520-2158


   Manx steps up to the board.  "It's wednesday again!  That means it's
time for

		INVISIBLE IDIOT 2,
			son of the invisible idiot!

   Category 1
  ------------

	a. medieval decoration, adultery punishment ; main word of
		the Souther Slave Movie Stereotype's vocabulary,
		masticated, short music performances
	b. mispronouncable mammal ; laugh ; realized ; egg section
	c. derby, loan, snobbish "Goodbye" ; beach, container
	d. achievement, Cockney "correct"; Jewish idiot
	e. make smooth ; Lestat's home, Pancho's sidekick ;
		Arab prince, deer, affirmative

   Category 2
  ------------

	a. you ; lighter ; refrigerate
	b. be sure of, dried mud ; purchase ; none, fireplace, 
		part of a three-piece suit
	c. exotic instrument ; not better
	d. beam, short ;  breath heavily ; melt ; bottom ; "listen!"
	e. sway, type of ring ; slut, scream ; British savage,
		certain ; Irish fairy, be in debt

   Category 3
  ------------

	a. good ; tiny parasite, lots
	b. recline, negative ; exile, rant, Princess
	c. yearn, pale brown ; geometrical entity, country
	d. Holy place, amaze ; hurry, playwright
	e. Companion of Arthur, motivate a boat ; pronoun, cheated

   Category 4
  ------------

	a. damage, milk container ; equestrian test
	b. wavy blade, cease, hair ; architectural support, public transport
	c. set free ; finger holder ; Bronx waterway, enjoyable romp
	d. non-reflecting, muscle ; deflect
	e. privy, hope ; weapons, squiffy

   Category 5
  ------------

	a. wire-taps ; atmosphere of humor at Callahans
	b. tree, Christmas gift ; sound of impact
	c. keg openers, more than a few, insect ; way to prepare eggs
	d. father, charge for services rendered; way to avoide peanuts
	e. part of window, become infected


   Now remember, DO NOT POST ANSWERS!  EMAIL ME!  Seriously!  People want 
to figure them out on their own. "Who solved what first" will be posted as 
it becomes interesting.  Answers will be posted next week. Good luck!
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Speaker-to-Minerals)
Subject: RE: Who are these people?
Reply-To: lydick@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU
Organization: HST Wide Field/Planetary Camera
Date: Sat, 22 Aug 1992 15:50:42 GMT

Carl J Lydick
Age: 36
Height: 5'11" (180 cm)
Weight: 200lb (91Kg)
Eyes:  Blue
Hair:  Brown, including full beard and mustache
Distinguishing features:  Right kidney either missing or transparent to
	ultrasound

Depending on context, Speaker-to-Minerals looks either exactly like Carl (who
has a somewhat leonine appearance) or like a Kzintosh.  The name comes from the
fact that I'm a Niven fan, and that my job involves acting as a buffer between
scientists and computers.  When the scientists want the computers to do
something they currently don't do, it's my job to make whatever changes in the
system are necessary (sometimes this involves installing new software;
sometimes it involves installing new hardware; frequently it involves teaching
the scientists how to use existing software).  I have, on a number of
occasions, come in to work to find a scientist standing over an eviscerated
computer, apparently wondering why it doesn't work any more, rather like a
Kzintosh regretting the fact that his most useful monkey angered him into
killing it.
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: sjane@bmers248.bnr.ca (sjs)
Subject: Re: Bean thought answer
Organization: Irrelevant, Ottawa, Canada
Date: Fri, 14 Aug 92 11:12:52 GMT

In article <1992Aug14.020343.15700@midway.uchicago.edu> esti@midway.uchicago.edu writes:
>        [...]                                             Yet, at the
>same time, I can't help but feel that being open is generally a *good*
>thing, and that encouraging trust in others is worthwhile."

Just a remark that this thread encompasses the differences between
extroverts and introverts.  The latter is a private type of person who
keeps everything inside, not because s/he doesn't trust another, but
because s/he doesn't see the point of telling the other.  ("This is about
me; how could it possibly interest you?")  The extrovert likes to talk &
use others as sounding boards; all is out in the open, known.  Apparently
one of the common misunderstandings between the two types is that the
extrovert thinks the introvert doesn't trust him/her and the introvert
doesn't understand what the extrovert is talking about.  ("You don't talk
to me!"  "Hunh?  What should I be talking about?")

All you folks out there whose s.o. is of the opposite type: you are 
warned!  

Note: I cannot claim these thoughts as my own: they belong to the
Myers-Briggs theory of personality types, which is derived from Jung's
theory.  If you are interested in this sort of stuff, look for a book
_Type Talk_ by, umm, drat.... I forget their names.  

The book is entirely readable &, I find, extremely useful.  For example,
instead of saying to my sweetie, "your lack of planning is driving me up
the wall" (which is simply an inflammatory statement!), I can say, "your
'p' is driving my 'j' crazy" ('p' and 'j' being letters standing for
personality types) and we can then talk about the differences between 'p's
and 'j's without getting all personal and worked up about it.
--
It's not irrelevant; it's a hippopotamus.   sjane@BNR.CA
From: JPIERCE@MIAMIU.BITNET (Jeff Pierce)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: i'm back
Date: 19 Aug 92 03:36:11 GMT
Organization: Miami University - Academic Computer Service

Happy the Man follows Kitten through the door after an extended absense
of four months.  "Hi, everyone.  I'm sorry I haven't posted since March
or April, but free time was almost nonexistant after the middle of last
February.  I'm also finally recovering from an extended illness that
started in March (my first trip to a hospital on a stretcher) and still
continued to plague me until early July.  I passed the oral comprehensives
for my graduate program in May, have one more year of graduate coursework,
and then I'll be looking for a six month internship to complete my degree
requirements."
 
Happy grins as he thinks about what he just said and what possibly
important details he has left out.   "Oh, it's a Masters program in
Environmental Sciences, and I have concentrations in applied ecology,
resource analysis, and water resources.  It will be my second Masters (my
first is in Educational Leadership), and I promised my family that I would
take an extended vacation from graduate school when I finish this degree
(for at least three or four years)."
 
Looking around, he spys a number of new faces and a few familar ones.
"I never said much about what I was doing the first time I came in, so
this can be a semi-introducation for the old and the new.  Now, Kitten,
tell us about this paradise of 7,500 women and no men."
 
                                        Happy the Man
From: hollombe@polymath.tti.com (The Polymath)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: who are these folks? (P'relan)
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:02:01 GMT
Organization: The Cat Factory

In article <1992Aug12.185221.12115@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu> jwwalden@miavx1.acs.muohio.edu (P'relan) writes:

}... (why is pounds abbreviated lbs?)...

From the Latin:  Librium.

The Polymath (aka: Jerry Hollombe, M.A., CDP, aka: hollombe@polymath.tti.com)
Head Robot Wrangler at Citicorp                   Turn the rascals out!
3100 Ocean Park Blvd.   (310) 450-9111, x2483     No incumbents in '92!
Santa Monica, CA  90405
From: krisj@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au (Kristina Johansson)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: hello again, anyone for a toast
Date: 18 Aug 92 03:28:49 GMT
Organization: Customised Software Solutions Centres, AOTC

First a disclaimer, I attempted posting this a last week, unfoortunately,
it does not appear to have gotten through...

Howdy again, says the voice in the corner. "Make way, I'm heading to the
bar."
And with that statement a big, black bird swoops out of the top of the
dark corner onto the bartop.
"Oh wow, I have wings and big black feathers.  I'm a raven,  there doesn't
seem to be any other ravens here, so i'll call myself Raven.'
"Excuse me, Mike, could I have a lemonade?" and then drops the dollar clutched
in her feet.  When the lemonade arrives, Raven hops ontop of the glass and
swoops towards the chalk line.
"Announcement everyone, I'm going to be making a toast, so please fill
your glasses....Are they all full now? Yes, well, ahem, this seems a good
place to eat, drink and be merry, and i hope while i'm here noone gets too
tired me."
With that Raven jumps off of the glass, downs the drink, gives it a good
whack with her wing that sends it flying into the fireplace. SMASH!!
"SHE SHOOTS, SHE SCORES" she yells and then start hopping around
Suddenly she stops, "Hey, there's mouse prints, where there's mice there's
cheese, would someone kindly point out where the cheese is hiding, it
would go nicely with all the lemonades I've been offered"

Raven
krisj@cssc-syd.tansu.com.au
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
From: bsackste@AFIT.AF.MIL (Bernadette M. Sacksteder)
Subject: Re: Candlesticks (was Re: who are these folks?)
Organization: Air Force Institue of Technology, WPAFB OH
Distribution: alt
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:28:58 GMT

In article <CEO.92Aug11221204@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu> ceo@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chip Olson) writes:
>From: ceo@churchy.gnu.ai.mit.edu (Chip Olson)
>Subject: Candlesticks (was Re: who are these folks?)
>Date: 12 Aug 92 03:12:04 GMT

>In article <1992Aug10.014730.14497@cs.yale.edu> lower-tony@CS.YALE.EDU (Tony Lower) writes:

>>  "Aloysious happened to be in my pocket when I came into the
>>Place, and she has decided to stay.  She is currently just above
>>the fireplace, keeping the prime 'cat position' by dint of pure
>>force of personality.  In other words, she's revelling in her
>>mantle of authority.  She's ensconced with the candlesticks..."

>Castellan looks around for the expected barrage of peanuts, but sees none.
>"I've been here six months, andiron never seen two horrible puns like those
>go by unnoticed.  Something's put a damper on our punfulness, and it's just
>tapered off and gotten really wick.  Maybe if I stack a few up like this it'll
>wax again, otherwise I'll be hearthbroken."


>--
>-Chip Olson. | ceo@silver.lcs.mit.edu | ceo@gnu.ai.mit.edu 
>"PROUD SPONSORS OF THOSE WHO CARRY THE TORCH"  -banner on US Post Office
>across from burned-out block of stores in south-central LA.

Auuuuuuuggggh! No! No! Not puns that bad! Have you no shame! Have you no 
DECENCY? How COULD you? 

The New Kid grabs huge handfulls of peanuts, throwing them as fast as she 
can. Mike in back of her at the bar grins as he keeps the bowl full. 
Suddenly she stops.

"Chip, those were so bad I wince for you. See?" The peanut shower 
recontinues...
From: smith@muvms3.bitnet (Phil smith)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: a beginners question(s)
Date: 12 Aug 92 10:37:28 GMT
Organization: Marshall University

Ok, I've just discovered alt.callahans and I have a couple of questions:
(and yes, I looked for a FAQ and did not find it)

1.	are there guidelines for selection of an alias?

2.	are there special netetiquette (sp?) that I should 
	be aware of?

Thanks
phil

-- 
Phil Smith   			BITNET:	      Smith@Marshall
Sr. Systems Analyst             Internet:     Smith@Marshall.edu
Marshall University
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From: eesshlgb@gdr.bath.ac.uk (S H L G Bisson)
Newsgroups: alt.callahans
Subject: Re: who are these folks?
Date: 12 Aug 92 13:10:05 GMT
Organization: School of Electrical Engineering, University of Bath, UK

With a glance over at the Wumpus, and a quick toss of a tomato, the resident
crapaud, Ignatz, looks up from the overstuffed rocking chair near the fire.

"Well, I'm one of the cartoon mice (Hi DM!), Ignatz, and here look somewhat
like my namesake from the Herriman _Krazy_Kat_ strips of the 20's and 30's.
So, you'll see (depending on angle, as unlike the multidemensional MandleBear,
I'm only 2D) a pin limbed mouse, with little black eyes, about 2 foot tall.

"In RL, well, I'm Simon Henry Le Gros Bisson, a Jerseyman cursed with more
than his fair share of names. 26 or thereabouts, 5'6"ish, mousy hair, brown
eyes, too many tee-shirts, and far too many books! Most UK Callahanians will
testify to my book-buying habits, and my tendency to get a little carried 
away with the puns.

"I refuse to admit to being in anyway ticklish, photographic evidence from
several realspaces to the contrary.

"I live in Bath, and offer free floorspace and guiding to any Callahanians
who appear in my area...

"Like Abner's Tizrak persona I tend to post when up, so I'll head back to my
current lurk..."

---=-
Ignatz Mouse/Simon Bisson...bookshops and bank balances never mix..............
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