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From: EY28@LIVERPOOL.AC.UK
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: What are the yellow "H" signs?
Date: 17 Aug 92 16:25:52 GMT
 <1992Aug14.154718.23092@hemlock.cray.com>
Organization: University of Liverpool

In article <1992Aug14.154718.23092@hemlock.cray.com>, andyw@aspen32.cray.com
(Andy Warner) says:
>>
>> ->On many buildings in the UK there are metal signs, about a foot
>> ->square, with a yellow background and a large black "H".  There
>> ->are smaller numbers written in the space above and below the bar
>> ->of the "H".  Every hypothesis I came up with for meaning of these
>> ->signs seemed to be disproved by a contradicting set of numbers.
>
>I was told (by my dad, who I have no reason to believe, except I
>was 6 at the time) that the top number was the number of feet
>away from the sign the hydrant actually was (as an aside,
>I wonder if that has gone metric ? how would they tell ?
>- anyway, I digress) the bottom number was the depth in
>inches of the hole.
>
>If he's wrong, tell me; he's coming over in 3 weeks and I'll
>give him hell (as if he'll care..)
>--
>andyw.  N0REN/G1XRL
>
>andyw@aspen.cray.com    Andy Warner, Cray Research, Inc.        (612) 683-5835

When I was 6 my dad told me the top number was the distance (in feet) to the
hydrant, and the lower number the size of the water main (in inches) so they
new what sort of fittings were needed to connect the hose. The diameter also
gives a clue to the capacity (and I bet that has gone metric - l/s) of the
main.

He could be right you know, he works for the Severn Trent Water authority
but then again he is an electrician. (Dont mix water with electricity children)
ppssszzzzrrrrzztt!

Andy  Calder
Radiation Damage Group
Materials Science & Engineering
University of Liverpool.
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Subject: Re: Americanising of the UK, Now: British TV in N
From: koumis@husc4.harvard.edu (Anthony Koumis)
Date: 21 Aug 92 14:20:35 EDT
Distribution: world
Organization: Harvard University Science Center

In article <1992Aug21.120828.29335@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> ggg9y@poe.acc.Virginia.EDU (Garth G. Groff) writes:
>BRITISH TV IN AMERICA
>
>I can cite one excample contrary to your claim that no 
>British TV appears on commercial American stations:
>the Benny Hill Show.  Not that this says anything good
>about the level of American taste....
>~S
>--
>Garth (Haridas) Groff
>"Not yet famous author"
>ggg9y@poe.acc.virginia.EDU         Chant "Govinda Bohlo Hare"





Yes, but local commercial TV.  In NY it was shown on channel 9 at 11 pm.
That is far different than all the US shows in GB shown on
national network tv in primetime.
From: clements@bbn.com (Bob Clements)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: What are the yellow "H" signs?
Date: 14 Aug 1992 19:27:31 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: classic.bbn.com

I'm sure I'll smack my forehead and say "Of course!", but I
couldn't figure it out.

On many buildings in the UK there are metal signs, about a foot
square, with a yellow background and a large black "H".  There
are smaller numbers written in the space above and below the bar
of the "H".  Every hypothesis I came up with for meaning of these
signs seemed to be disproved by a contradicting set of numbers.

So I'll publicly admit my ignorance and ask:  What are these signs
and what do the numbers mean?

Thanks,
Bob Clements, K1BC, clements@bbn.com
From: ego@etek.chalmers.se (Magnus Wennstroem)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Where in the world are Fulmer and Tatling End?
Summary: Help needed to identify a geographical place
Date: 20 Aug 92 22:36:38 GMT
Reply-To: ego@etek.chalmers.se
Followup-To: soc.culture.british
Organization: Chalmers University of Technology, Gothenburg, Sweden

I recently saw a picture in a magazine. In this picture, you can see three
road signs. One says "Fulmer 1", another says "Tatling End 1" (opposite
direction). The third sign is only partly visible and it says "Iver (some-
thing)" and "Heath(something)". These road signs point out really small,
country roads. My guess is that these places are in southern England;
Heath(something) could be Heathfield. But my maps are not detailed
enough, so I am not sure.
If anyone recognizes these names, I would very much appreciate to know
approximately where these places are. Please respond with E-mail.

Regards,
Magnus

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From: "richard tanner" <richard.tanner@canrem.com>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: confound their politi
Date: 13 Aug 92 15:37:06 EST
Reply-To: "richard tanner" <richard.tanner@canrem.com>
Distribution: soc
Organization: Canada Remote Systems

On 08-12-92, Gerard Fryer wrote the following to All on the subject, 
"CONFOUND THEIR POLITICS":

GF>I recently watched that old classic "The Ruling Class" (early
GF>seventies, Peter O'Toole).  The opening titles are run to that verse o
GF>"God Save the King" which was dropped long before Liz's coronation.  I
GF>must have heard my father sing it dozens of times (he'd sing it
GF>instead of the tame first verse) but now I can't recall it accurately.
GF>Can someone give me the words?  Does anyone know the circumstances
GF>under which the verse was dropped?

You've got me curious now. If no one comes up with the words, I'll try. 
Meanwhile, did you know that in Canada we added the following verse to 
Henry Carey's lyrics?

Our loved Dominion bless
With peace and happiness
From shore to shore;
And let our Empire be
Loyal, united, free,
True to herself and thee
For evermore.

By the way, it's nice to hear the familiar strains of "God Save the King" 
still being played by the Americans on patriotic occasions. The words are 
often wrong though . . .

Richard



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From: darragh@maths.tcd.ie (Darragh J. Delany)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: National Anthems (was Re: Why only ONE british olympic team)
Date: 12 Aug 92 21:18:27 GMT
Organization: Dept. of Maths, Trinity College, Dublin, Ireland.

Robert.Evans@cm.cf.ac.uk (Robert Evans) writes:

>and more seriously, the words it currently has are imperialist and blasphemous -
>"Wider still and wider, may thy bounds be set," (imperialism),
>"God who made the mighty make the mightier yet" (blasphemy and imperialism).

Just while we are on the subject can someone e-mail me the full lyrics of
"land of Hope and Glory" and "There'll always be a England"(or is that
the correct title, meaning the latter, I know the former goes under
"Pomp and Circumstance")

darragh@maths.tcd.ie

-- 
Dj.

ESS students don't have plans, silly
From: Eric_S_Klien@cup.portal.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Electronic Matchmaker
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 92 01:35:57 PDT
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: world

British women, having a problem finding a British man?  I am about to 
launch a free electronic matching service on Usenet.  Thanks to the 
imbalance of men to women on Usenet, more guys than gals have 
expressed an interest so far.  If you would like to see the fifth 
draft of my questionnaire so we can alter it to also fit women's 
needs as well as men's, either send me mail or look at the copy I 
posted in alt.personals.  
 
This service is serious and I already have 280 men and 155 women 
signed up so far.  The site of the service has already been selected 
and programming has begun.
 
I should point out that this questionnaire really, really, really, 
needs some more input on CULTURES.  I need some questions to make sure
that matches are compatible culturally.
 
                                                            Eric Klien
From: egpv29@castle.ed.ac.uk (JHenderson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: When the going gets tough...
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:40:17 GMT
Organization: Edinburgh University

In article <1992Aug19.113124.20863@bristol.ac.uk> P.Smee@bristol.ac.uk (Paul Smee) writes:
=>
=>Ultimately, of course, it is a play on the old catch-phrase, 'when the
=>going gets tough, the tough get going', 
=>
=>And, that's everything I know about it.  Anyone have any info about
=>where/when the modified form appeared?

The original became very well-known following "Animal House", so I
would guess that variants appeared shortly thereafter.



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From: besson@ucis.vill.edu (Morgan Besson)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Need frequencies and timings for the BBC
Date: 13 Aug 92 14:34:00 GMT
Distribution: na
Organization: Villanova University

In article <1992Aug9.222358.18886@techbook.com>, sameer@techbook.com writes...
>Hi,
>I need information on the times of transmission and frequencies for
>the BBC North American service. Any information or source for the 
>information would be appreciated.

Of course the "World Radio TV Handbook" which is published yearly and
cost $20 has frequencies for all shortwave transmissions.
From: jmunro@wyse.wyse.com (Jim Munro x2497)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: New World beer (was Re: Americanising
Date: 17 Aug 92 22:14:24 GMT
Organization: Wyse Technologies San Jose, Ca

In article <1992Aug10.083200.19167@dcs.qmw.ac.uk> mmh@cs.qmw.ac.uk (Matthew Huntbach) writes:
>
>The drink particularly associated with "lager louts" is
>Tennant's or Carlsberg special brew, both of which have no
>redeeming qualities whatsoever, and taste and have the effect
>of poor quality beer to which quantities of industrial alcohol
>have been added.
>

When I was in Britain last, I did not get much chance to choose the pubs and bars
in which I drank, and wound up drinking quite a lot of Tennants lager. Compared
with much of the slosh which passes for bitter, I was glad to be drinking Tennants.

Sure, parts of England have some pretty good beer. I remember Ind Coope having
some decent bitter, also Abbotts, and of course Ruddles. The brewery in my
home town closed down in the last few years (Greenall Whitley), so I actually
find decent beer pretty hard to find in the 'average' bar and pub. Typically, they
stock some fizzy 'keg' beer, and some fairly ordinary 'ordinary' bitter. 

As for Scotland, the beer is uniformly lousy. No wonder the Scots dring Scotch!

Sure if you want to be discerning, you can find decent beer almost anywhere. But
if you find yourself staying in Hotels, or visiting wayside pubs, bars, and restraunts
'at random' as it were, you would be well advised to stich to Tennants.

Jim Munro
From: neilp@cs.hw.ac.uk (Neil Postlethwaite)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: royal family
Date: 20 Aug 92 09:57:32 GMT
Distribution: soc
Organization: Dept of Computer Science, Heriot-Watt University, Scotland

>=>In article <1992Aug13.895.15961@dosgate> "richard tanner" <richard.tanner@canrem.com> writes:
>=>
>=>>The bottom line is that what the Queen and the Royal Family around her do 
>=>>or do not do is unimportant. It is what they are, like fixed parts within 
>=>>a watch, holding the moving gears in place (unless, of course, you're 
>=>>wearing a Casio).

As an afterthough, if you want an example of something which is like a
part of a watch helping the whole mechanism function properly as an
analogy to something which keeps Britain working the queen is not it.
Something like Tesco's perhaps ??

Q/	Is Tesco's more important to the UK than The Queen

A/	YES.

Neil


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: regeorge@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Robert E George)
Subject: Brit. Amerophilia & Amer. Anglophilia/Was: shocking suggestion
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Sun, 23 Aug 1992 02:55:24 GMT

In article <9208230235.AA17709@heartland.bradley.edu_> gledbet@heartland.bradle
y.edu writes:
>
>
>Gentlemen,
>
>I should like to call to your attention the following
>declaration which I have just read a short while ago:
>
>   " It is always a joy to me to meet an American, Mr.
>   Moulton, for I am one of those who believe that the
>   folly of a monarch and the blundering of a Minister in
>   far gone years will not prevent our children from
>   being some day citizens of the same world-wide country
>   under a flag which shall be a quartering of the Union
>   Jack with the Stars and Stripes."
>
>The speaker is none other than Mr. Sherlock Holmes of Baker-
>street, likely a hero of every last reader of this group,
>and these words appeared in The Adventure of the Noble
>Bachelor, which was published in The Strand Magazine
>sometime between July 1891 and December 1892.
>
>Were such notions current at the turn of the century?
[deletions]

According to Correlli Barnett (whom I manage to quote at least twice
a day in various newsgroups on the Net; no, I am not an agent of his
publisher, just a reader much impressed by his prose and analysis)
there was more Amerophilia [did I invent a word] in Great Britain
in the late 19th century than Anglophilia in the U.S., at least
in part because of the millions of Americans of German, Irish, African,
Slavic, and Mediterranean descent, of whom the first two were probably
Anglophobic and the last three indifferent/separated from English
culture. The failure of many Britons to appreciate this asymmetry of
sentiment led to great difficulties -- see "The Collapse of British
Power."

Robert George
(speaking only for myself)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: pter@projtech.com (PT User)
Subject: Re: VNS: Mon 10-Aug-1992
Keywords: VNS,news,sport
Organization: Project Technology, Inc., Berkeley, CA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 18:22:31 GMT

In article <1992Aug10.143800.499@osf.org> dbrooks@osf.org (David Brooks) writes:
>evansg@uproar.enet.dec.com (Gwyn Evans @ IME) writes:
>|> 	The 25th olympic games of the modern era is over. They ended as
>|> 	magnificently as they started, with a incredible closing ceremony
>|> 	and a magnificent firework display.
>
>That's nice.  Those of us condemned to watch it on NBC didn't actually see
>the ceremony: just commercials interspersed with loud content-free
>interviews with (justifiably) excited Wonnerful American Athletic Stars.  I
>gave up and washed some windows.
>
>I never thought I'd lonnnnnnng for the sound of David Coleman's voice.
>

DITTO!

	- Sanjiv

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From: Christopher.Carne@brunel.ac.uk (Christopher J Carne)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Songs banned by the Beeb (was Re: Americanising of the UK)
Date: 12 Aug 92 12:16:32 GMT
Organization: Brunel University, West London, UK

In article <1992Aug11.083335.9857@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk> gjw@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk (Mr Garry J. Wardrope) writes:
>
>   More recently they banned Frankie Goes to Hollywood and Relax they later
>allowed it, and of course the adult mix of the latist prince song has been
>banned.
>
>
>		Garry
>
>
>-- 
>Mail:	Garry Wardrope, Computing Science Dept.,  Tel: (041) 339 8855 x5322
>	Glasgow Univ., 17 Lilybank Gardens, Glasgow G12 8QQ, UK. 
>email:	gjw@dcs.glasgow.ac.uk
>".. and even if I came in sight of paradise what price its moon without Marsco"

I know there have been several postings claiming that this song was banned,
but I seem to recall hearing it on the radio quite a lot at the time. 
The Beeb refused to show the video, a bit risque I geuss what with 
leather clad young men and women, and an atmosphere of kinky sex not to
mention that members of the band were gay.(Shock! Horror!) which probably had
something (everything) to do with it.

In general the Beeb seem to be more concerned about the presence of bad
language these days rather than sexual innuendo, with the odd exeption
of course or other 'offensive' content. I could image hearing 'God Save
the Queen' on daytime radio but not 'Too Drunk To Fuck'. BTW in most
of the charts produced at the time the song was listed as 'Too Drunk
T0 ...' which intrigued me enough to buy the record. Just as well my
parents weren't around when I first played it.

Aother thought. John Peel never seemed to have any trouble playing
Sex Pistols stuff, including GSTQ.


In any case there are more insidious forms of censorship than simply
banning. 


CHR$


"If they can get you asking the wrong questions,
they don't need to worry about you finding the answers"
Thomas Pynchon
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: apm@hpopd.pwd.hp.com (Andrew Merritt)
Subject: Re: VNS: Wed 12-Aug-1992
Organization: Hewlett-Packard NSG-PWD, UK.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1scd1 PL4
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 12:50:07 GMT

: 
:      The man arrested in connection with the murder of a woman on Wimbledon
:      Common has been released without charge.
But was prompty re-arrested by the Liverpool police on an urelated charge.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,rec.food.drink,alt.beer
From: cockburn@edieng.enet.dec.com (Craig Cockburn)
Subject: Re: Champion Beer Of Britain 1992
Organization: Digital Equipment Co. Ltd., Reading, England
Date: Thu, 13 Aug 1992 06:43:04 GMT


In article <1992Aug10.113634.19865@inmos.co.uk>, conor@lion.inmos.co.uk (Conor O'Neill) writes...

>Overall Champion Beer Of Britain 1992:
>1. Woodfordes Norfolk Nog
>2. Taylor's Landlord
>3. Bateman's Salem Porter
> 
>You are fairly unlikely to get hold of any of them far outside their
>own patch, and extremely unlikely to get any abroad.
> 
I had a great pint of the Taylor's Landlord at Bert's bar in Canonmills,
Edinburgh on Sunday. I think the area for this one must be quite large!

Craig

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From: skaamjm@ucl.ac.uk (Matthew Moore)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: Brits and Irish ---
Date: 17 Aug 92 13:54:36 GMT
Organization: Bloomsbury Computing Consortium

moisan@cicb.fr (Herve Moisan -  stagiaire CICB) writes:

>a word from britanny,

>yes, little britain is britanny.

>(
>because in the 5th century and 6th, briton people (celtic)
>from Wales,Cornwall,Devon leaked britain because of germanic people
>and picts people.
>moreover, english people in breton language is "Saozhneg" : Saxon
>)

interesting. Does anyone think it comes from similar roots to "sassenach"
(scots word for the English)?
From: kaplan4@husc10.harvard.edu (Merrill Kaplan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: What happened to punch magazine?
Date: 18 Aug 92 15:06:09 GMT

Punch indeed went under.  I would recommend trying to get a-hold of the
farewell issue, as it was nicely done as a final retrospective and 
Parthian shot at the financial nonsense which killed it.  

This leaves the oldest humor magazine in America, but the Lampoon really
can't hold a candle to Punch.

Merrill Kaplan
Organization: Valencia University (Universitat de Valencia)   SPAIN
Date: Friday, 14 Aug 1992 22:50:03 EST
From: <PARDO@EVALUN11.BITNET>
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: University of Newcastle

Hello Newcastle,

I'm Fernando from Spain, if you are attending Newcastle University mail me, I'd
 like to know something about the city, university, the people, and so on.

Hola! hay algun espanyol en la universidad de newcastle los proximos meses?

Thank you!!

Bye for now.

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
From: firth@sei.cmu.edu (Robert Firth)
Subject: Re: Meggy and Yugoslavia
Organization: Software Engineering Institute
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 13:47:47 GMT

In article <Aug.11.04.57.27.1992.6867@pilot.njin.net> hubey@pilot.njin.net (Hubey) writes:
>If the UN cannot
>act as the world's police force, then maybe the old world order
>was better. 

Of course the old world order was better.  However, that order was
done to death by Gregor Prinzip, in the city of Sarajevo, in the
year 1914, and there is no going back to it.

The children are reaping what their fathers sowed:  "The mills of
God grind slowly, but they grind exceeding small."
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british,soc.culture.american
From: sanjiv@projtech.com (Sanjiv Gossain)
Subject: can you get right hand drive cars in the US
Organization: Project Technology, Inc., Berkeley, CA
Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1992 20:38:15 GMT


A friend of mine is going back to the UK after being here in the US
for some time and he wishes to purchase a car for the UK...
(as they are considerably cheaper here)
however he really wants a right-hand drive one if
he can get one. I think he wants a Ford, or a Japanese car.
I guess he would have to order one. 

Has anyone ever done this? if you have, perhaps you
could let me know as he does not have internet access.

I guess what he really needs to know is...

- can you order right-hand drive cars in the US for export abroad?
- and if so, is it worth it?
- and if so, where from?

Any help appreciated.

Sanjiv Gossain
sanjiv@projtech.com
From: kfe@siesoft.co.uk (Keith )
Newsgroups: soc.culture.british
Subject: Re: New Road Signs
Date: 17 Aug 92 11:02:04 GMT
Organization: Siemens Nixdorf Information Systems Ltd.
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

I have recently noticed a large number of new 'road signs' popping up
all over the place. They are about 1 foot by 2 feet in size, mounted
parallel to the road (ie not facing the traffic) and appear to show
bar code type reflective markings.

Does anybody out the in netland have any idea what these signs are for?




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