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From: an26@sol.acs.unt.edu (Dave Roberts)
Subject: Re: 9-9-92 "B.C."
Organization: University of North Texas
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 20:30:03 GMT

11srust@gallua.gallaudet.edu (Scott A. Rust) writes:

>In article <JYM.92Sep15005952@remarque.berkeley.edu>, jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:

>	Even the most ardent (sp?) of ACLU supporters has to admit that the
>ACLU on many occasions takes on ridiculous crusades all in the name of the
>constitution and freedom for all, when really it is   1) trying to all the
>press it can about anything   2) undermining society and its ever declining
>morals, etc, etc.


Personally, I don't think Christians should be snickering at ridiculous 
crusades, given their history...  :):):)!

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From: sherman@oak.math.ucla.edu (The Ahkond of Swat)
Subject: Re: Winso McCay collections?
Organization: The Island of Misfit Toys
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 92 22:57:10 GMT

In article <JYM.92Sep15010950@remarque.berkeley.edu> jym@mica.berkeley.edu (Jym Dyer) writes:
>> How about "The Complete Little Nemo in Slumberland," published
>> by Fantagraphics Books?  There are five volumes, hardcover,
>> full size.
>
>=/= Note that Fantagraphics is publishing additional volumes,
>reprinting "In The Land of Wonderful Dreams" -- essentially
>the same strip, but with a different name, because it was done
>for a different syndicate.  

That's what volume five is.  "Little Nemo in Slumberland" itself is
volumes one through four.  It's a bit of a misnomer, but volume
five is "The Complete Little Nemo in Slumberland" volume 5: "In
the Land of Wonderful Dreams."  

>=/= Dover's also reprinted some of the strips in a full-size
>paperback, focusing on the "Palace of Ice" strips.  These are
>pretty superfluous if you get the Fantagraphics books.

Right, I should've mentioned this.

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From: tsdavies@rodan.syr.EDU (Real life?  Ha!)
Subject: Re: 9-9-92 "B.C."
In-reply-to: ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu's message of Thu, 10 Sep 1992 21:32:47 GMT
Organization: Sam Hill Cabal, DS
	<1992Sep10.213247.7625@ncar.ucar.edu>
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Date: Sat, 12 Sep 92 02:31:46 EDT

Windsor> = Windsor A. Morgan <wmorgan@stsci.edu>
Ilana>	 = Ilana Stern <ilana@kiowa.scd.ucar.edu>


Windsor> I am surprised to see no comment on the 9-9-92 "B.C." strip.
Windsor> It had two panels, and was a "Wiley's Dictionary" entry.

Windsor> 1st panel:  "R-U-4-86"
Windsor> 2nd panel:  "Are-U-4-Stiffing-the-kid?"

Windsor> I don't mind an artist from putting his/her views in works of
Windsor> art, but I (naively) wonder why there are no uproars or
Windsor> newspapers putting a (evidently) conservative strip on the
Windsor> editorial page.  The creator of "B.C." (whose name I forget
Windsor> right now) does not always put politics into his strip, but
Windsor> neither does Garry Trudeau, the favorite whipping boy of
Windsor> non-liberals. 

Ilana> Actually, there have been a few such letters to the editor here
Ilana> in Boulder (admittedly a fairly liberal town) triggered by the
Ilana> earlier B.C. strip (the author, btw, is Johnny Hart) where one
Ilana> of the characters is writing a poem about how gee, it doesn't
Ilana> say "separation of church and state" anywhere in the
Ilana> Constitution.  I'm sure that the strip you mention will fuel
Ilana> the fire some more.  I agree that if Hart wishes to use his
Ilana> strip as a forum for his religious/conservative opinions, the
Ilana> strip belongs on the editorial page. 

To add a bit more information, you might be interested to know that
Johnny Hart lives in Binghamton, New York, where Randall Terry's
Operation Rescue is based.

I can't quite figure Hart out.  While he does seem to be an ardent
Christianist, there was a strip (a Sunday strip, I think) within the
last couple of weeks that was very anti-Bush/Quayle.  (Of course, he
followed it up with a weekday strip indicating it was a sign of his
losing his mind.  Hmm, the RU486 strip followed that one....  ;-) )

(BTW, the weekday _Doonesbury_s appear on the editorial page of the
morning paper here, and the comics editor censored the _Bloom County_
strip with the nun/banana joke, so there's a precedent for interfering
with the comics here.)

--
	Sam Hill Cabal, DS		   tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu
"It don't matter, Sail, ... Could be worse.  The fam'ly might be donatin' the
proceeds to the Cath'lic Church, or the Mormons or somethin'.  One cult's the
	same as another." -- Lula Pace Ripley, in "Consuelo's Kiss".
From: beh10@duts.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Holsinger)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: AT LAST!!!
Date: 8 Sep 92 21:31:57 GMT
Reply-To: beh10@DUTS.ccc.amdahl.com (Barry Holsinger)
Organization: Amdahl Corporation, Sunnyvale CA

In article <Bu9qHz.2x1@news.cso.uiuc.edu> ziauddin@osiris.cso.uiuc.edu (Tasneem Ziauddin) writes:
>helen@pulua.hcc.hawaii.edu (Helen Rapozo) writes:
>
>>In article <1992Sep7.182436.29597@cc.umontreal.ca> duperval@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Duperval Laurent) writes:
>>>In article <1854ujINNckl@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> bn823@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Peter Mullaney) writes:
>>>>
>>>>It's taken a long time but I finally saw a 'Far Side' that was REALLY
>>>>funny -  Madonna putting a hole in a lifeboat.  I finally laughed at a
>>>>'Far Side' strip.
>>>>
>
>I missed this one--what was the punchline?
>
>Thanks in advance.

Picture a group of people stranded in a rubber life boat in the middle
of the ocean.  They are all gasping in horror as the boat begins to sink.
WE can see two sharp, pointy objects protruding from beneith the raft
(i.e., Madonna's Boobs o' Doom -- you'll know what I mean if you've
every seen the bras that she wears.)



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From: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: More on ETAOIN SHRDLU
Date: 15 Sep 1992 15:33:54 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


After posting my reply about ETAOIN SHRDLU I realized that it needed a
bit more explanation.  Linotype operators used that group of letters to cast 
a test "slug" to see whether the machine was working properly, i.e.. if it
was heating the type metal to the proper temperature, etc. Many years
ago I encountered ETAOIN SHRDLU in a Thomas Pynchon story "The Secret 
Integration," and decided to verify its origin.  I went down to a 
local typesetting job shop that still used a Linotype machine and sure
enough, there was ETAOIN SHRDLU on the keyboard.  Mergenthaler
knew the shortcomings of the standard QWERTY keyboard, I guess.

J. Del Col
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A-B College       *     Got a whole lotta tricks keepin' here on ice."    
Philippi, WV      *          ---Got My Mojo Workin'--  P. Foster
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From: klein@frith.egr.msu.edu (Jeffrey Klein)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Blondie, 9/6
Date: 7 Sep 92 23:26:01 GMT
Organization: Michigan State University College of Stunt Piloting

Dagwood QUIT his job!

(I missed the week prior to this - heck, I don't read it at all.
 Could someone summarize the setup?)
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Browsing Boy of the LNH|  refreshing dip in one of the dangerous 
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From: padutton@wpi.WPI.EDU (Peter Alan Dutton)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: 9-9-92 "B.C."
Date: 12 Sep 1992 17:20:06 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <1992Sep10.194308.26372@stsci.edu> wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan) writes:
>
>I am surprised to see no comment on the 9-9-92 "B.C." strip.  It had
>two panels, and was a "Wiley's Dictionary" entry.
>
>1st panel:  "R-U-4-86"
>2nd panel:  "Are-U-4-Stiffing-the-kid?"
>
>("Kid" may have been "child", but the meaning is the same.)
>
>I don't mind an artist from putting his/her views in works of art, but
>I (naively) wonder why there are no uproars or newspapers putting a
>(evidently) conservative strip on the editorial page.  

Well, here we go. You have just uproared. Sort of a self-negating
prophecy, eh?

Peter!

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From: tyg@quip.eecs.umich.edu (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Brenda Starr offensive?
Organization: Interleaf
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 05:10:28 GMT

In article <9482@emory.mathcs.emory.edu> mworley@mathcs.emory.edu (Meg Worley) writes:
>I cannot keep up with the current story, but I am somewhat offended by
>Dr. Anna or whatever her name is.  That ersatz-German accent is tough to 
>take, particularly in combination with many suggestions that she's about
>to reveal herself as a real bad 'un.  Anyone else care to opine?

I guess I'm missing just what is supposed to be offensive. Given that her
name, in true Brenda style, is Anna List (analyst) and she's a shrink of
some sort, seems to me to be quite expected from a strip like Brenda that
she'd talk like a vaudevillian doing Sigmund Freud. Personally, I don't see
anything offensive going down.

"How could I have thought I didn't love that man?  It must have been the
radiation from my VDT." --Brenda Starr
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: tmw4r@fulton.seas.Virginia.EDU (Thomas Munroe Walsh)
Subject: Re: For Better for Worse on TV
Organization: University of Virginia
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 19:39:02 GMT

In article <1992Sep11.182140.21484@cc.umontreal.ca> duperval@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Duperval Laurent) writes:
>I just read in today's (Sept 11) Montreal Gazette that Lynn Johnston's strip
>will be made into 6 half hour shows to be broadcast this fall on CTV.  I saw a
>picture of the cartoon today.  All the characters look similar to the strip
>except for Mike.  Mike has one of those short preppie haircuts. It looks funny
>on him (as in bizarre).  I don't know.  I don't like the idea too much.  But
>I'll give it a chance.  When I know the dates, I'll let everyone know.
>-- 
>Laurent Duperval
>duperval@ere.umontreal.ca
>duperval@jsp.umontreal.ca
>If you gotta go, go happy... or surprised.  -Me

A couple of weeks ago during their free preview weekend, the Disney
Channel broadcast "For Better Or For Worse:  The Last Camping Trip."
As is usual when an animated series is made, I thought they got the
voices all wrong.  (Of course, they could have used Lynn Johnston's
family and I would have still thought they got the voices totally
wrong.)  The animation keeps to the style of the strip very well.
It features the family as currently appears in the stip (including
April).  The story centers around the family going on a camping trip
(surprise surprise) which Michael gets dragged along on (he'd rather
go to the lake with Gordon).  While on the trip Michael meets a girl
named Sarah and their meeting resembles Michael meeting Martha in
the strip.

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From: chrstie@ccu.umanitoba.ca (William John M. Christie)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Foxtrot, 9/4/92
Date: 10 Sep 92 15:34:24 GMT
Organization: University of Manitoba, Winnipeg, Canada


Just for the record I made sure they were all correct.  It hurt to remember
some of it, but I did it!
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From: duperval@ERE.UMontreal.CA (Duperval Laurent)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: For Better for Worse on TV
Date: 11 Sep 92 18:21:40 GMT
Organization: Universite de Montreal

I just read in today's (Sept 11) Montreal Gazette that Lynn Johnston's strip
will be made into 6 half hour shows to be broadcast this fall on CTV.  I saw a
picture of the cartoon today.  All the characters look similar to the strip
except for Mike.  Mike has one of those short preppie haircuts. It looks funny
on him (as in bizarre).  I don't know.  I don't like the idea too much.  But
I'll give it a chance.  When I know the dates, I'll let everyone know.
-- 
Laurent Duperval
duperval@ere.umontreal.ca
duperval@jsp.umontreal.ca
If you gotta go, go happy... or surprised.  -Me
From: mworley@mathcs.emory.edu (Meg Worley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Brenda Starr offensive?
Date: 5 Sep 92 18:23:32 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Dept of Math and CS

Our paper (Atlanta Constitution) only gets Brenda Starr on weekends, so
I cannot keep up with the current story, but I am somewhat offended by
Dr. Anna or whatever her name is.  That ersatz-German accent is tough to 
take, particularly in combination with many suggestions that she's about
to reveal herself as a real bad 'un.  Anyone else care to opine?

Rage away,

meg

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 Meg Worley 				Internet:  mworley@mathcs.emory.edu
From: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: etaoin shrdlu
Date: 15 Sep 1992 12:06:52 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: br105@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jeffrey A. Del Col)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, carruthers@brandonu.ca (Kai'ckul) says:

>ETAOIN SHRDLU:  maybe a comment on Snoopy's writing style?  =)
>
>Sean
>carruthers@tkm.Brandonu.ca
>

Sean:

ETAOIN SHRDLU is  the grouping of the most frequently used letters of the
Roman alphabet in English.  Linotype machines ( I think) had a row of keys
arranged that way.  It was also, I believe, the name of a character in Pogo


J. Del Col
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From: wall@spdc.ti.com (Raj Wall)
Subject: Dilbert
Organization: TI's Risible Technology Branch, Dallas
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:04:42 GMT


WRT the minor discussion of Dilbert, those critical should understand
that Dilbert has such accurate skewering of CS/EE corporate life and
large corporations in general that sometimes your laughter is the
laughter of pain of self-recognition.  If you're still in school it
probably doesn't make any sense.  But buy a copy of the collected
works (assuming one comes out) when you graduate and join the
corporate rat race.  Pull it out again after a few years and laugh
through your tears.  Sometimes I'd swear Adams must work at some place
"much like this one" (but not *here* of course --- *we'd* never be
anything like that!)

OBDilbert:

Panel 1: [Dilbert, a co-worker and a cranky old geezer (COG) at lunch]

	COG: When I started programming, we didn't have any of these
	     sissy "icons" and "windows".

Panel 2: 

	COG: All we had were zeros and ones -- and sometimes we didn't
	     even have ones.

Panel 3: 
	COG: I wrote an entire database program using only zeros.
	Dilbert: You had zeros?  We had to use the letter "O".

Regards,
Raj

wall@csc.ti.com

"The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not
 be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."
					9th Amendment, U.S. Constitution



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From: tsdavies@rodan.syr.EDU (Real life?  Ha!)
Subject: Betty -- Collections?  Creators?
Followup-To: poster
Organization: Sam Hill Cabal, DS
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 92 02:24:17 EDT


Our local paper (the Syracuse _Herald-Journal_) picked up _Betty_ a
couple months ago (weekdays, only, nothing on Saturday or Sunday).  

Are there any _Betty_ collections?  And, even if there aren't, who
writes/draws the strip?  (It's signed "D & R".)

Thanks!

--
	Sam Hill Cabal, DS		   tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu
"It don't matter, Sail, ... Could be worse.  The fam'ly might be donatin' the
proceeds to the Cath'lic Church, or the Mormons or somethin'.  One cult's the
	same as another." -- Lula Pace Ripley, in "Consuelo's Kiss".
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From: ss1@kepler.unh.edu (The Rink)
Subject: Re: 9-9-92 "B.C."
Organization: Turkey Hall
Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1992 19:43:07 GMT

>	You know, another thing to remember is that Hart (creator, writer of
>B.C.) is _obviously_ a Christian judging from his past strips including both
>his Good Friday strip this past year (Wiley concluding that this day would be
>both the best and worst day mankind ever had) and his Christmas strip
>(concerning a child who would be born to save us all). I find it particularly
>enlightening to find someone who is read as widely as Hart is who is not afraid
>to stand up and say what he feels (or in this case, to sit down and draw it).


Said better than I could have.  I *second* the motion!!
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From: tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway)
Subject: Re: Dilbert
Reply-To: tyg@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Tom Galloway)
Organization: Interleaf, Inc.
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 92 18:36:16 GMT

In article <1992Sep10.190442.932@spdc.ti.com> wall@spdc.ti.com (Raj Wall) writes:
> OBDilbert:
> Panel 3: 
> 	COG: I wrote an entire database program using only zeros.
> 	Dilbert: You had zeros?  We had to use the letter "O".

You had Os? We had to use parentheses. ()

"Forget computers; it's hard enough getting humans to pass the Turing test."
--David Bedno
tyg   tyg@hq.ileaf.com
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From: schnitzi@cs.ucf.edu (Mark Schnitzius)
Subject: Re: DOONESBURY's back
Organization: University of Central Florida
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 16:45:26 GMT

rjung@aludra.usc.edu (Robert A. Jung) writes:

>What, no net.bandwidth at all on the return of Garry Trudeau from his hiatus
>and his newest round of DOONESBURY strips?

About time, too.  During the hiatus my paper replaced it with Sally Forth,
a particularly lame and poorly drawn comic strip.

I'm curious to see how Trudeau is going to wrap up this
family values thing.

mark
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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: 9-9-92 "B.C."
Originator: wmorgan@oort.stsci.edu
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 19:43:08 GMT


I am surprised to see no comment on the 9-9-92 "B.C." strip.  It had
two panels, and was a "Wiley's Dictionary" entry.

1st panel:  "R-U-4-86"
2nd panel:  "Are-U-4-Stiffing-the-kid?"

("Kid" may have been "child", but the meaning is the same.)

I don't mind an artist from putting his/her views in works of art, but
I (naively) wonder why there are no uproars or newspapers putting a
(evidently) conservative strip on the editorial page.  The creator of
"B.C." (whose name I forget right now) does not always put politics
into his strip, but neither does Garry Trudeau, the favorite whipping
boy of non-liberals.

Does being a conservative give one some type on "immunity" from being
attacked by newspapers and their readers?  It makes one wonder about
the reality of the "liberal media".
-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
From: mcirvin@husc8.harvard.edu (Mcirvin)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: Re: Dilbert
Date: 10 Sep 92 20:04:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc8.mcirvin.716155484
Distribution: usa

wall@spdc.ti.com (Raj Wall) writes:

>WRT the minor discussion of Dilbert, those critical should understand
>that Dilbert has such accurate skewering of CS/EE corporate life and
>large corporations in general that sometimes your laughter is the
>laughter of pain of self-recognition.  If you're still in school it
>probably doesn't make any sense.

I'm still in school (after a fashion), and it makes sense to me...
today's should be really funny to anyone who's had to answer people's
questions about science.

Certain Dilberts, like certain Far Sides, have a habit of ending up
taped to dormitory doors and pinned on bulletin boards of everyone
studying physics.  The last one that got that universal a response
was Dilbert's explanation of time: "Imagine a donut fired from a
cannon at the speed of light while rotating.  Time is like that,
only without the cannon and the donut."
 
-- 
Matt McIrvin, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA
From: carruthers@brandonu.ca (Kai'ckul)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.comics.strips
Subject: etaoin shrdlu
Date: 13 Sep 92 18:26:58 GMT
Organization: Brandon University, Brandon, Manitoba, Canada

ETAOIN SHRDLU:  maybe a comment on Snoopy's writing style?  =)

Sean
carruthers@tkm.Brandonu.ca