From: miha@proteus1.UUCP (Sinisa Mihailovic)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna
Subject: Re: who was in 'power' in BH (was: Re: Call It Anything but Peace)
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 22:57:12 -0800
Organization: Proteus Communications, Washington D.C. * node 1

In <BxIAvn.Dp2@me.utoronto.ca> arnsenad@me.utoronto.ca (Senad Arnautovic) writes:

>Because Yugoslavia (country of ALL South Slavs) cannot be called so
>if it does not include ALL South Slav nations wilingly joined
>in: Slovenes, Croats, Bosnians, Montenegrins, Serbs, Macedonians

		       ^^^^^^^^^

	Excuse me, just to make things clear. Who, exactly  are "the Bosnians".
If  I am informed correctly and I should be since I lived in  Sarajevo for some
ammount  of  time,  there  are three main ethnic groups in  Bosnia-Herzegovina:
Bosnian  Croats,  Bosnian  Serbs  and  muslim  Slavs.  Naming either of them as 
"Bosnians" represents the injustice  to others because it is a clear attempt to 
steal  the  history,  cultural  heritage and many other things from either two.

According  do  your name I  am assuming that you are a muslim, so I am assuming 
that  you are  speaking of muslim Slavs. Of all the three people they should be 
the  most silent one when speaking of historical, etc. heritage.

>and others. Therefore, what is nowdays so-called FR Yugoslavia
>should be termed Serboslavia, and the Bosnians clearily do not
>want to live there and be treated as a second-class citizens
>(if allowed to live there), see treatment of Albanians in Kosovo.

	In the light of which I said above: Bosnian Serbs are also "Bosnians",
they  didn't want to  seceede.   According to the 1991 census data there are 31% 
of Bosnian Serbs + 6%  of  those who declared themselves as Yugoslavs (which are 
also  mainly  Bosnian  Serbs who didn't want secession and warned that they will 
seceede    from   such   artificially   made   state   as  today's  "independent 
Bosnia-Herzegovina" was supposed to be. According to all statistical data, those
same  Bosnian  Serbs  own  more than 60% of the land, so who can decide in their 
name?  If  muslim Slavs want to seceede why don't give that right to the others, 
too?  Or  are  we speaking double standards, again? 

>the order quite well, despite the accommodations made by Muslim
>and Croatian parties to please the Serbs by speaking
>about "sovereignity" (not the same as "independence")
>The vote on "sovereignity" were carried out in BH parliament, attended

	Can you simply ignore such large percentage of the population, and just
carry  on  with  decisions  for  secession,  like nothing ever happened? That's 
exactly  what so_called BH government did. As I recall Serbs did have referndum
and  they proclaimed they state before the "independent Bosnia-Herzegovina" was
internationally recognized.

>Therefore, world is right for condemning Serbia (and its BH cronies)
>for aggression and war.

	 I  am  amazed  with that kind of logic. Or are you denying the Bosnian 
Serbs even the right  for existance and their own choices and moves?  Or do you
think that they can't think for themselves? If so, how come that they conquered 
all  the  territories they own, and little bit more, and don't give a damn what 
Serbia and Yugoslavia think about it? 
	If   it   was   for Serbia to object  Bosnia's independence, why did it 
completely  pull  Serbian  contigent of YPA soldgiers to Serbia and transformed 
the army so that it better suits the defense purposes? Or are you going to tell 
me about the "attacks from Serbia" what was denied each time when the so_called  
BH government tried to draw the world's attention with false claims, by various 
UN   organizations,   observers,  etc...  I  should  count  there  non-existant 
death-camps or even detention camps for muslim Slavs in Serbia.
If you are American-born muslim Slav, then it's about the time to take that map 
in  your hands and study a little where is Serbia. And strongest argument about
all  this  is:  if  it  really wanted to make greater Serbia, Serbia could have 
chewed  Bosnia-Herzegovina  for  breakfast, will all the arms and humanpower it 
has,  lot before the Bosnia was recognized (so it was under the jurisdiction of 
YPA,  was  it.  As  for  the  world  recognition,  many  of the countries which 
represent  something  in  todays  world, already stated that the recognition of 
Bosnia-Herzegovina was premature and pushed by Germany, as I recall.


-- miha
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