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From: as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Doctor is...
Date: 8 Nov 92 22:51:29 GMT
Organization: University of Rochester - Rochester, New York

In <1992Nov7.191129.20401@yang.earlham.edu> marcs@yang.earlham.edu (Marc Seebass(Thunderbolt)) writes:

>In article <1334@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, labaks@emory.edu (Abraham Song) writes:
>> It's me again, the Doctor...
>> 
>> As for the earlier comment about the Doctor "borrowing" the TARDIS
>> is absolutely true.  We hear this from the story War Games with the
>> second Doctor.
>> 
>> I am not Absolutely saying it is Rassilon (I may be screwing with
>> you people's minds) but that it is only a funny theory.  As for the
>> comment that the Five Doctors story disproves that Rassilon is not
>> the Doctor is totally not true.  Looking at the story from a
>> distance and analyzing the show, one can interpret the story as a
>> story of bringing all the Doctors together in one story (because it
>> is an anniversary show) however, because it is a story of reunion
>> and memories one can come to the conclusion that Rassilon is some
>> regeneration of the Doctor (perhaps a future regeneration as
>> myself?)  Now, you may say well then the Doctors should have all
>> melded themselves together including Rassilon.  But I disagree
>> because I believe they all were hiding the secret from their
>> friends so Rassilon, being the Doctor, would also be in it too.
>> 
>> However, all of this is speculation (remember I may be fooling with
>> your mind!!!!) because one can give evidence that even a dalek may
>> be the doctor (although unlikely.)  But it is interesting to here
>> people's ideas and comments!!!!
>> 
>> But remember because I am the Doctor, I know the answer!!!!!!
>> 
>> Be seeing you! (and you) (Ref. Prisoner)
>Actually according to the the to the twenty  one hundreth Doctor's 
>special, everyone in the universe is acctually a regeneration of the 
>Doctor. :-)

I haven't been following this thread, so perhaps it is a bad idea to jump
in...but are you seriously suggesting that the Doctor and Rassilon may be
the same person?

THIS IS RIDICULOUS!

I mean, really, one can carry this sort of speculation too far.  Rassilon
and Omega are figures from Time Lord history.  There is too much evidence
showing that the Doctor was in his first incarnation when Hartnell played
him for him to be that old.  Time Lord history was already ancient when the
Doctor appeared.  Not a chance!

Now I suppose you'll tell me that in a later incarnation, the Doc went back
in time and became Rassilon, in a sort of historical fulfillment thing. 
However, the TARDIS does have limits on its travel, and *cannot* function
before a certain point in time.

Are you just tossing ideas around, or do you have some concrete reason to
believe that the Doctor=Rassilon?  (Or =Omega?)

And why do half the people on this newsgroup believe that they are the
Doctor?  Get a grip on reality please.

Drewcifer

"If he treats you horribly he's probably a Scorpio"--Robyn Hitchcock
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Subject: Re: xx
From: ace@kryton.UUCP (Catherine Beckstead)
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 09:39:36 PST
Organization: Paradox Alley F&SF BBS 805-492-8789

aodn307@bongo.cc.utexas.edu (Joshua Henry Geurink) writes:

> In article <1992Nov5.4153.13801@dosgate> "daniel bishop" <daniel.bishop@canre
> >I am the Master.  You will obey me.
> 
> We are the borg.  Resistance is futile.  You will be assimilated.
> ASSIMILATE!  ASSIMILATE!  ASSIMILATE!!!

Oh no!  That could get annoying.  A Borg/Dalek war.
 
EXTERMINATE!!  ASSIMULATE!!  EXTERMINATE!!  ASSIMULATE!!

-------------------------------------------------------------------
Catherine Beckstead                    ace@kryton.uucp
"Do you want to argue with a can of deodorant that registers
NINE on the Richter scale?"        --Ace, in "Dragonfire"
From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Movie
Date: 10 Nov 92 17:54:57 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

In article <1992Nov10.204651.16058@wam.umd.edu>, pjaffe@next12csc.wam.umd.edu (Paul I. Jaffe) writes:
> In article <1992Nov10.113817.298@rivers> ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu  
> writes:
>> In article <BxHA3H.D39@news.orst.edu>, schatzj@WTFD.ORST.EDU (Jeremy  
> Schatz) writes:
>> >     This is my first time posting her , so please excuse any mistakes.
>> >     
>> >     I was wondering what was going on with the Dr  movie that is being
>> >     produced in America. Is this still happening? And does anyone know  
> when
>> >     it will be released.
>> >     
>> > 	 Thank You e
>> 
>> 
>> God, I hope not!  
>> 
>> My cousin found and bought a pirate copy of the script for this proposed
>> movie and I read some of it.  I had to stop about a third of the way in
>> because I couldn't stand it anymore.
>> 
> 
> Actually, it sounds kind of interesting. Where did you get that script? I  
> would like to see it.
> 
> 			-P


My cousin found it at a CreationCon in the Twin Cities about a year ago.
When I say it looked authentic, I mean it had the writer's agencies written
in it, the names of the writers (which I don't recall now, other than
Johnny Byrne, but they were the right three numbers), and the look of a
professional movie script.  It didn't read like one though.  I wish he
still had it (he sent it to a friend, we both hated it so much we couldn't
stand to keep it) so I could post some sections of it so you could all see
just how bad it is.

I'll check with our friend (the same Iain Robert Asplin as I used to use
for UseNet access) and see if he still has it and if he can post a bit of
it, or at least send it to me.

Steven.K.Manfred

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From: husted@vms.macc.wisc.edu (Jack)
Subject: Re: Ace?  More like deuce... here's a new slant
Organization:  University of Wisconsin Academic Computing Center
Distribution:  world
Date: 13 NOV 92 10:38:59    

In article <1992Nov12.183823.8685@iscsvax.uni.edu>, morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu writes...

> 
>It was a dark and stormy night, a shot range out, and the butler died.  

I know!  I know!   Visitation right after the 'meteor shower'
..right?

Jack
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From: torresce@craft.camp.clarkson.edu (Carlos E. Torres)
Subject: Re: Ace? More like deuce... here's a new slant
Organization: Clarkson University
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 14:07:12 GMT

ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu writes:

>Here's a new slant on this Drew.  Did you like Leela?  
>I can recall someone near me at a convention calling Ace "a modern-day
>Earth version of Leela,"  and thinking that that did apply well.
>What do you lot think, not just Drew.

I don't think Ace is anything like Leela.  Leela is a warrior.  She has both
strength and hunter skills and is fearless.  Ace to me is a brat who somehow
becomes fearless and somehow at a young age got off of Earth and had so-o-o
much experience within a short period of time, that she fears no Daleks/Cybermen
nor anything, except some stupid mild childhood trauma that she went thru when 
she was a child involving ghosts and haunted houses -  which she overcomes and 
shows no change for it.  Oops!  Didn't mean for that to come out as strong as it
did.  Calm down, put your flamethrowers away!   So I exaggerated a little 
bit...  :)  But the brat part is true!
	Mystic
(alex.soto@analog.com)
From: marcs@yang.earlham.edu (Marc Seebass(Thunderbolt))
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: The Doctor is...
Date: 8 Nov 92 00:11:29 GMT
Organization: Earlham College, Richmond, Indiana

In article <1334@emoryu1.cc.emory.edu>, labaks@emory.edu (Abraham Song) writes:
> It's me again, the Doctor...
> 
> As for the earlier comment about the Doctor "borrowing" the TARDIS
> is absolutely true.  We hear this from the story War Games with the
> second Doctor.
> 
> I am not Absolutely saying it is Rassilon (I may be screwing with
> you people's minds) but that it is only a funny theory.  As for the
> comment that the Five Doctors story disproves that Rassilon is not
> the Doctor is totally not true.  Looking at the story from a
> distance and analyzing the show, one can interpret the story as a
> story of bringing all the Doctors together in one story (because it
> is an anniversary show) however, because it is a story of reunion
> and memories one can come to the conclusion that Rassilon is some
> regeneration of the Doctor (perhaps a future regeneration as
> myself?)  Now, you may say well then the Doctors should have all
> melded themselves together including Rassilon.  But I disagree
> because I believe they all were hiding the secret from their
> friends so Rassilon, being the Doctor, would also be in it too.
> 
> However, all of this is speculation (remember I may be fooling with
> your mind!!!!) because one can give evidence that even a dalek may
> be the doctor (although unlikely.)  But it is interesting to here
> people's ideas and comments!!!!
> 
> But remember because I am the Doctor, I know the answer!!!!!!
> 
> Be seeing you! (and you) (Ref. Prisoner)
Actually according to the the to the twenty  one hundreth Doctor's 
special, everyone in the universe is acctually a regeneration of the 
Doctor. :-)
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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,alt.fan.monty-python
Subject: Re: Quizze 10
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 92 06:07:30 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #3, Edmonton, AB, Canada

rblewitt@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Richard Blewitt) writes:

Here's another pre-pythonesque sketch.

- In article <mqsPTB1w165w@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca> yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca
-
- >And now Quizze 10, based on the 7th Doctor, and in 2 weeks, the 100 point
- >question:
- >
- >1) What is Mel's occupation?
-
- Whiney, screamy, obnoxious brat.

Babies usually are.

-
- >2) Which 7th Doctor serial featured Sophie Aldred, before "Dragonfire".
-
- Wheaties.

Delectable.

-
- >4) Who was the Daleks man?
-
- The Orkin man - one good exterminator deserves another.

Diito with liquidators.

-
- >5) Which politician did Helen A satorize?
-
- All of them.

What?  Centrists can't be that bad.

-
- >6) Name the Nazi leader from "Silver Nemesis".
-
- David Duke.

Well, he does a good job of hiding his true intent.

-
- >8) Who's ghost haunted a Perivale house that Ace burnt down?
-
- JNT

Naw, he haunts the world over.

-
- >9) Describe Fenric.
-
- A quarrie (what else is there in Who).
-

 definitely sounds like the pits.

-
- --
- _____________________________________________________________________
- _____________________________.sig____________________________________
- _____________________________________________________________________
- The generic .sig          Rick Blewitt     rblewitt@ucsd.edu


Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
 (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
God Save the Queen, God Bless us All! Remember! Jesus Saves!!
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From: 00bwanderson@leo.bsuvc.bsu.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Limits on TARDIS travel (Was Re: The Doctor is...)
Date: 12 Nov 92 20:01:14 GMT
Organization: Ball State University, Muncie, In - Univ. Computing Svc's

In article <1992Nov11.212248.28473@tms390.micro.ti.com>, nsmith@tms390.micro.ti.com (Neal Smith) writes:
> as010b@uhura.cc.rochester.edu (andrew david simchik) writes:
> 
>>Now I suppose you'll tell me that in a later incarnation, the Doc went back
>>in time and became Rassilon, in a sort of historical fulfillment thing. 
>>However, the TARDIS does have limits on its travel, and *cannot* function
>>before a certain point in time.
> 
> There's at least one episode contradicting this... in _Castrovalva_, the
> Master sends the TARDIS back to "Event One, the hydrogen inrush", i.e.,
> the Big Bang, the start of time.  I would assume, if this is the start
> of the universe, that it is before the Gallifreyans/Time Lords [no, I'm
> not interested in continuing the Gallifreyan vs. Time Lord flamewar 
> from Hell] invented time travel, so it doesn't seem to have a limit in
> this direction.

Sorry-there is a limit.  It limits when a Time Lord can visit Gallifrey. 
According to something, somewhere (I apologise for forgetting the source), a
Time Lord cannot travel into the past of Gallifrey.  In other words, he can
only visit Gallifrey's "now" in his personal timeline.  How they define this is
beyond me (as is most Gallifreyan technology, I fear) but it's what I remember.


> 
> Speaking of this event, after seeing Terminus I had to wonder why they
> didn't notice the ejected fuel tank from Terminus heading back in space/time
> towards the point they were headed for. =)
>

Hmmm...they weren't looking for it? 8^)

> 
>>Drewcifer
> 
> By the way, I liked Ace, but I don't think that means that everyone should
> like Ace.

On the contrary: I think we should set up re-education camps for people who do
not like Ace.  They will be brought in, and, using a combination of
psychoactive drugs and shock therapy, be made to despise any companion other
than Ace, especially Mel and Peri.

"Ace is our friend.  She has lots of friends..."

> 
>>"If he treats you horribly he's probably a Scorpio"--Robyn Hitchcock
> 
"And if SHE treats you horribly it's probably PMS"--me, just now.

> 
> - Neal

Spock out.
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From: G.M.Suddes@newcastle.ac.uk (Gareth Suddes)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: Re: Dr who anyone?
Date: 11 Nov 92 12:02:38 GMT
Organization: University of Newcastle upon Tyne, UK, NE1 7RU

doctor@k9.UUCP (Paul Broe) writes:

>In article <domalley.721328842@unix1.tcd.ie> domalley@unix1.tcd.ie (Slartibartfast            (alias Daniel O'Malley)) writes:
>> In <1992Nov7.161803.3073@micom.com> sarah@micom.com (Sarah Menolly/K.J. Montgomery) writes:
>> >In article <gate.gsBuTB1w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> prisoner@infopls.chi.il.us (Pat Mondi) writes:
>> >>... Who is the most popular Doctor on television? You are correct!
>> >Quincy!
>> It's Doctor Kildare! ;-)
>Leonard McCoy? :-)

 Doogie Howser? :-)

Gareth

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From: timelord@cs.mcgill.ca (Jeffrey JACOBS)
Subject: Re: What this sleepy group needs is a TOP TEN LIST
Summary: Damn news server: can't even cancel my own articles.
Keywords: I wonder what Romana and Dave would say?
Organization: The Query Master Syndicate.
Date: Sun, 8 Nov 1992 13:13:41 GMT


Why can't this Dran thing except the Underline control sequence!?!!

The title should have been:

	Top Ten Reasons The Doctor And Ace Didn't run for

		President of the United States.
-- 
   (%)   By order of the High Council of Time Lords on Gallifrey   (%)
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~|~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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   ---   William Wordsworth       |              Rides On           TX TL
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From: doctor@polaris.unm.edu (Doc)
Subject: Re: The Doctor is...
Date: Mon, 09 Nov 92 21:20:58 GMT
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque

Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
From: doctor@polaris.unm.edu (Doc)
Distribution: world
Followup-To: 
Organization: University of New Mexico, Albuquerque
Subject: Re: The Doctor is...
Keywords: 

Also, Don't anyone forget that the Doctor and the Master had the same teacher
at one point in their youth, but "The Master was always the Brighter one of 
the two."  A quote from the the Dr. Who game - I think.


-Josh a.k.a.  The Doctor


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From: pcrossma@cs.ulowell.edu (The Gillrocker)
Subject: Re: Voting for ballot is under way; ballot provided; send to sarah@micom
Organization: University of Massachusetts at Lowell Computer Science
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1992 03:03:06 GMT

What's up here....someone have an inferiority complex here or what????

Who is trying to create the Dr. Who  "cultural elite"?

Dan Quayle doesn't read this group you know.....

They always say, "If it's not broke, don't fix it."

I would like whoever has the list of novels thing put in there to 
throw it away....I was never asked about this novel thing, and the general
convention here seems to be that I do the novels....

Lets not turn into a bunch of trekkies here....Canon....<insert raspberry>.

-- 
 _ __ A straight _ line __ may be the shortest distance between two points, 
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From: jasstev@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (stevens jason)
Subject: Re: Movie
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 14:25:47 GMT

schatzj@WTFD.ORST.EDU (Jeremy Schatz) writes:

>    This is my first time posting her , so please excuse any mistakes.
>    
>    I was wondering what was going on with the Dr  movie that is being
>    produced in America. Is this still happening? And does anyone know when
>    it will be released.
>    
     the answer : MOVIE? WHAT MOVIE?!

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From: doctor8@jhuvms.hcf.jhu.edu (Jason Abner Miller)
Subject: Re: The Doctor is...
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41    
Organization: The Johns Hopkins University - HCF
Date: Mon, 9 Nov 1992 22:07:00 GMT

> 
>Question.  Did they actually state in "Planet of the Spiders" that
>K'Anpo was THE hermit of song and story?  The only time that the hermit
>appears as himself is in "Timewyrm: Revelation", and in that one, he
>has one eye.  Maybe this can be explained away by regeneration, but
>I'd just like to know what's official.

	Yes, The Doctor says so at the beginning of Part 6, the last
Pertwee episode, after Tommy introduces him to the Abbot K'Anpo.  When 
the Doctor tries to explain to Sarah who he is, he says "You've heard me
talk about him in the past.  He's my guru, if you like", or something to
that effect.
	Also, in Part 2 of "Planet of the Spiders", he mentions the old
man who lived on top of a hill or something who he used to go to for advice.
This is the hermit, a recurring figure in Pertwee's recollections (I believe
he's also mentioned in "The Time Monster").
	I never did get to read "Timewrym: Revelation", living in an area
where "Who" is dead.  The only books I've been able to find on Long Island
have been the first 3 Timewyrm books, Witch Mark (yuck!), and Love & War,
which I'm in the middle of.  So excuse me if I conjecture something which
has been disproved in a subsequent novel.

							Jason Miller
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From: yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Dave Shariff Yadallee)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho,rec.arts.tv.uk,soc.culture.british,rec.video.satellite
Subject: the BBC World Service Television
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 92 06:09:22 MST
Organization: Edmonton Remote Systems #1, Edmonton, AB, Canada

Cuurent, the CBC Newsworld is nicking feeds off of BBC WSTV for newsfeed.

Information request:  As the BBC is going Worldwide, apart from news, is this
                      BBC branch going to broadcast other shows such DW
repeats, Blake's 7, Comedies like Bless Me Father, Waiting for God, On the
Buses, Music like Top of the Pops, Sports like Football, Cricket, and others.

Also, which satellite feed carries the BBC WSTV for North America?


Dave Shariff Yadallee (B. Sc. (Econ/Math) (U of Alberta 1990) )
 (yadallee@ersys.edmonton.ab.ca, userLIBE@mts.ucs.ualberta.ca)
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From: labaks@emory.edu (Abraham Song)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.drwho
Subject: All the Doctors are the Best
Date: 6 Nov 92 20:28:17 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3

You know I am sick of hearing about which Doctor was the best and
which was the worst.  If you are a *TRUE* fan of Doctor Who (the
Greatest Science Fiction Series of all time) then you should not be
stating which Doctor is the best!!  First of all, when the Doctor
regenerates the actor playing the Doctor literally creates a new
character and image of the Doctor!!!  All the Doctors are equal in
quality and character for the Doctor is THE DOCTOR!!!!

I hate it when I hear people complaining about Sylvester McCoy.  If
you people would quit whining and just enjoy the show watching a
new person interpret the role of the Doctor, then I think you
people would enjoy and appreciate the character, actor, and show a
lot more!

I admit there are some bad episodes, but on the whole Doctor Who
has some of the most innovative and brilliant stories to any
Science Fiction show in  World Television!!!!

I am a lover of the show Doctor Who.  It is such an incredible show
with so much history and power behind it.  So when I hear people
complaining about a person playing the Doctor, I feel that they
should shut up and quit analyzing the character and realize that
this is a NEW doctor and not just another Tom Baker.  Tom Baker is
just one of the Doctors not the essence of the Doctor.  Granted,
Tom Baker was wonderful playing the Doctor.  But one should realize
that there are other actors (I believe all of them) played
wonderfully as the Doctor and I believe we should quit comparing
all the actors from each other!!!!  Perhaps the biggest reason why
typically Americans view Tom Baker as the "best" Doctor is because
he was the first of the seven Doctors to appear in America.  (No, I
am NOT saying he was the first Doctor)  When Doctor Who first aired
in America, it first featured the Great Tom Baker.  Ever since
then, I feel as though people always compare the Doctor to Tom
Baker.  I think this is stupid, unfair to the other actors playing
as the Doctor, and shows that people who compare Doctors from one
another do not truly enjoy the Show Doctor Who because they are
always OVER ANALYZING IT!!!!!  As William Shatner said to the
Trekkies on Saturday Night Live, I say to All of the WHOVIANS
(Including Myself.) GET A LIFE!!!!!  Quit over-analyzing it and
just enjoy the show and let it flow.  It is the longest running
Science Fiction show in the History of World Television.  Let us
Whovians keep the Greatness of Doctor Who up in the world and quit
complaining about which doctor sucks and which Doctor is the
best!!!!


OK?
Abraham K. Song, the Doctor

PS.  As the Doctor Once said "There's no point in being grown up if
you can't be childish sometimes."


wonderfully as the Docto