HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: whenry@leland.Stanford.EDU (homo obsolescensis)
Subject: retrieval beyond bounds of document
Organization: Stanford University Libraries
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 02:17:46 GMT

Can someone tell me what this error message from my server log is
trying to tell me?

  27106: 1: Jan 26 17:06:37 1993: 100: Init message: waisq WAIS release
  8 b5, from host: netcom.netcom.com

  27106: 2: Jan 26 17:06:37 1993: 5: Retrieving DocID: 135077 135406
  /u/wais/Cdr/CONSDIR, byte: 135077 234052, from database
  /u/wais/src/cool-cdr

  27106: 3: Jan 26 17:06:37 1993: -2: retrieval beyond bounds of
  document 234052 in file </u/wais/Cdr/CONSDIR>

  27106: 4: Jan 26 17:06:38 1993: 2: Done handling client

This seems to pop up whenever I (or waismail) does a retrieval with
waisretrieve (I don't get it with WAISstation  or waissearch).  Note
that the proper document is indeed being returned.  However, a friend
at another site reports that when she does a waismail search on my
databases she is getting empty documents or (inappropriately) uuencoded
documents (her searches cause a 'retrieval beyond bounds message in my
log).

To complicate the issue, I didn't start seeing this until yesterday.
I've been busily adding material to the databases (but they are not
huge). Ive rebuilt the indexes from scratch, but that had no effect.

If it helps, this is b5.1 running on an RS6000 under AIX ver. 3.
The index mentioned above happens to be type PARA, but it is happening
in all my databases.

Most curious,
Thanks,
Walter Henry
Stanford University Libraries
From: zeiden@bashful.cs.wisc.edu (Matthew Zeidenberg)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: waisindex problem
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:05:29 GMT
Organization: University of Wisconsin, Madison -- Computer Sciences Dept.

I had the following error in trying to build a wais index as follows.
Can anyone help?

Thanks.
Matt

bovine.ssc.wisc.edu> waisindex -d /tmp_mnt/users/d10/zeidenbe/mattsindex -r 
/tmp_mnt/users/d10/zeidenbe
3797: 0: Jan 25 16:39:13 1993: 6: Starting to build database
/tmp_mnt/users/d10x
3797: 1: Jan 25 16:39:15 1993: 6: Indexing file: /tmp_mnt/users/d10/zeidenbe/Mat

[Indexing file messages deleted]

3797: 17: Jan 25 16:39:48 1993: 6: Indexing file: /tmp_mnt/users/d10/zeidenbe/cZ
3797: 18: Jan 25 16:40:24 1993: 100: Expanding hashtable from 3145728
bytes to .
3797: 19: Jan 25 16:40:57 1993: 6: Flushing 88412 different words,
300000 total.
3797: 20: Jan 25 16:42:40 1993: 6: Done flushing
3797: 999999: Jan 25 16:43:57 1993: -1: Fatal Error:    In a call to
write_bytes
IOT trap (core dumped)

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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais,comp.sys.sgi.apps
From: Mitra <mitra@pandora.sf.ca.us>
Subject: Multi-type wais servers and gopher
Return-Path: postmaster@quake.think.com
Errors-To: postmaster@quake.think.com
Organization: Pandora Systems
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 00:06:34 GMT
Apparently-To: <wais-talk@quake.think.com>
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Francois just gave me a pointer at his test multi-type wais server, and I'm
afraid gopher wont point at it successfully. Even worse, it seems to
crash the gopher client to even try it.

Unfortuantely I dont have time to track down the bug since I'm going out
of town today.

- Mitra
From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Re: I need a mentor for setting up WAIS
Date: 23 Jan 93 14:53:51 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH

>Any volunteers?  I would be very grateful.
>Please e-mail at bd%fluent@darmtouth.edu

Typo in e-mail address - should be

bd%fluent@dartmouth.edu

(Told ya' unix wasn't my specialty!)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: gilbertd@chipmunk.bio.indiana.edu (Don Gilbert)
Subject: Re: waisindex for words with embedded punctuation
Organization: Biology, Indiana University - Bloomington
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 22:04:07 GMT

In article <1993Jan28.205926.3113@msc.cornell.edu> rick@cougar.msc.cornell.edu (Rick Cochran) writes:
>waisindex does not allow a word to have embedded punctuation.  I wanted to
>be able to search for things like "AIX 3.2.3" (heaven help me) so I made the
>following changes.
>
>It would be nice if wasindex's concept of a "word" could be customized.A

See my mods to wais version 8b5, avail. via anon. ftp to ftp.bio.indiana.edu,
folder util/wais/ as iubio-wais...tar.Z.   It includes user-specified
set of word-delimiter symbols (as many biological data words contain
symbols).  Note these mods affect both indexer and server, and each
index has an "index.dlm" file of delimiter symbols associated.
-- Don

-- 
Don Gilbert                                     gilbert@bio.indiana.edu
biocomputing office, biology dept., indiana univ., bloomington, in 47405
From: warnock@Hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov (Archie Warnock)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Re: Find Key in iubio wais
Date: 23 Jan 93 16:27:16 GMT
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD USA

ann@euclid.JPL.NASA.GOV (Ann Farny) writes:
>I noticed, however, that the Find Key function does not
>parse the "Tell me about" string, so after doing a boolean
>search, the Find Key function takes you to every "and" in
>the file.

I think you'll find that the interpretation of the word "and" is a
server function (doesn't really matter that it's treated as a boolean,
it could be any stop word) and, as such, the client doesn't know not to
highlight it when you hit Find Key.  In fact, this isn't unique to the
iubio code - it happens to me in the b5.1 client all the time, with any
server.  I seem to recall something that could be done about it passing
through wais-talk a while back, but it might also just be a random
neuron firing <g>.

Anyway, I don't find it all the unusual an occurrance - you'd have to
make your client aware of all the "special" words used by _all_ of the
servers you talk to.
--
_______________________________________________________________________
-- Archie Warnock              Internet:  warnock@hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov
-- Hughes STX                  "Unix --- JCL For The 90s"
-- NASA/GSFC                        
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: ses@sunSITE.unc.edu (Simon Spero)
Subject: Re: Newer Z39.50 protspec?
Organization: University of North Carolina, Chapel Hill
Distribution: comp
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 13:21:24 GMT

In article <BIANCO.93Jan25141525@aethelbehrt.cs.odu.edu> bianco@aethelbehrt.cs.odu.edu (David J. Bianco) writes:
>Is there a newer version of the Z39.50 protocol specification than the
>one distributed with the WAIS system (Version 2, Third Draft, May 199)?
>If so, where can I get a copy?  Other sources of Z39.50 information are
>also welcome.  Thanks...

There is an archive of Z39.50 related material on sunsite.unc.edu, in the
directory /pub/Z39.50. Copies of several versions of the ASN.1, together with 
several version 3 drafts are available in the Standards_Documents directory. 

Note that these documents are the product of the Z39.50  implementors 
working group, and are not official NISO documents. 

Simon
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From: bd@fluent@dartmouth.EDU (Brice Dowaliby)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: I need a mentor for setting up WAIS
Date: 23 Jan 93 12:45:41 GMT
Reply-To: bd%fluent@dartmouth.EDU
Distribution: usa
Organization: Fluent Inc., Lebanon NH


Intro
-----

I am the technical librarian for an engineering 
software company.  It looks like WAIS is just what
I'm looking for for a company-wide information
collation and dissemination system.

The problem is that getting engineering information
is my specialty - Unix is not!

Request
-------

Is there anyone out there who would be willing to
lead me through the process of installing and
running WAIS on our system?  The server would be 
running on a Solbourne, with most of the clients
being on Suns.

This is not a rush situation, so it isn't like
I would need *immediate* answers to questions,
but I would like to have someone out there who
would be willing to answer "okay, I did this, 
what do I do now" kind of questions.  It doesn't
matter if each question took a couple of days
to answer, since I am in no hurry, but I am looking
for a mentor who would be willing to answer questions 
within a few days, at least.

Any volunteers?  I would be very grateful.

Please e-mail at bd%fluent@darmtouth.edu

Thanks.
From: ann@euclid.JPL.NASA.GOV (Ann Farny)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Find Key in iubio wais
Date: 21 Jan 1993 23:30:10 GMT
Organization: Jet Propulsion Laboratory, NASA/Caltech
Distribution: world
Reply-To: ann@euclid.jpl.nasa.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: euclid.jpl.nasa.gov

I have installed the iubio version of WAIS, and other
than a perpetual ld.so warning every time I bring up
a window, it works great.

I noticed, however, that the Find Key function does not
parse the "Tell me about" string, so after doing a boolean
search, the Find Key function takes you to every "and" in
the file.

Are there any plans to fix this?

-- 
ann
From: jonathan@philo.think.com (Jonathan Goldman)
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
Subject: Re: Find Key in iubio wais
Date: 23 Jan 93 21:53:59
Organization: Thinking Machines Corporation, Cambridge MA, USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: philo.quake.think.com
In-reply-to: warnock@Hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov's message of 23 Jan 93 16:27:16 GMT

In article <warnock.727806436@Hypatia> warnock@Hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov (Archie Warnock) writes:
Path: think.com!rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!uunet!haven.umd.edu!mimsy!nsisrv!Hypatia!warnock
   From: warnock@Hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov (Archie Warnock)
   Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
   Date: 23 Jan 93 16:27:16 GMT
   References: <1jnbm2INNm1n@elroy.jpl.nasa.gov>
   Sender: usenet@nsisrv.gsfc.nasa.gov (Usenet)
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   ann@euclid.JPL.NASA.GOV (Ann Farny) writes:
   >I noticed, however, that the Find Key function does not
   >parse the "Tell me about" string, so after doing a boolean
   >search, the Find Key function takes you to every "and" in
   >the file.

   I think you'll find that the interpretation of the word "and" is a
   server function (doesn't really matter that it's treated as a boolean,
   it could be any stop word) and, as such, the client doesn't know not to
   highlight it when you hit Find Key.  In fact, this isn't unique to the
   iubio code - it happens to me in the b5.1 client all the time, with any
   server.  I seem to recall something that could be done about it passing
   through wais-talk a while back, but it might also just be a random
   neuron firing <g>.

   Anyway, I don't find it all the unusual an occurrance - you'd have to
   make your client aware of all the "special" words used by _all_ of the
   servers you talk to.
   --
   _______________________________________________________________________
   -- Archie Warnock              Internet:  warnock@hypatia.gsfc.nasa.gov
   -- Hughes STX                  "Unix --- JCL For The 90s"
   -- NASA/GSFC                        
--
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jonathan@Think.com				1010 El Camino Real Suite 310
Developer					Menlo Park, CA 94025
Wide Area Information Servers			415-329-9300x229
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems.wais
From: barr@pop.psu.edu (David Barr)
Subject: Heirarchy for wais-sources?
Organization: Penn State Population Research Institute
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 93 15:09:23 GMT

	Are there plans to make the wais-sources a heirarchy?

One of the first things I notice when I start up xwais is that there
are just too many sources to just 'browse' through.  If I'm interested
in just a certain type of source, I have to wade through (now) 362
sources to find what I want.  If WAIS plans to expand, then there clearly
has to be a way to break down this mass into manageable chunks.
	Here's my idea of how the the wais-sources jumble could 
be organized:

wais-sources/	books/		(Aesop-Fables, bible, O'Reilly etc)
		documents/	(journals, reports, files)
				(could be split again?)
		usenet/		(alt.*, comp.*, and FAQ's etc)
				(perhaps split again by usenet heirarchy?)
		internet/	(ITEF, internet drafts/rfc's, nsfnet, uunet)
		ftp/		(archie, archives, ftpable-readmes)
		software/	(sas-archive, spss-archive)
		library/	(library sources)
		rec/		(movie, music, cooking, etc)
		wais/		(WAIS itself, catalog of sources)
		misc/		(catch-all)

Looking through this list and the soruces, there's still a good number
that don't fit in a (non-misc) category above.  Any other good ideas for
topics?

My rationale is to provide the causal browser with a mechanism to immediately
exclude certain tyes of sources, rather than necessarily include only the
sources he/she wants.  It also provides a little more information about each
source, by just looking at the structure.  You may not know what "rkba.src"
is about, but "documents/rkba.src" gives you a little more info.

--Dave
-- 
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Newsgroups: comp.infosystems,comp.misc,sci.econ,gnu.misc.discuss,comp.software-eng,comp.programming,comp.object
From: maney@netcom.com (George Maney)
Subject: Greenspan Explains the Demise of IBM
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 20:58:54 GMT

Hi-

Greenspan was being questioned by a congressional committee on CNN this
morning.  My account here is fuzzy because its from memory and because
I was half awake at the time.

He stated something to the effect that the Fed had detected recent significant 
gains in white collar productivity (which has otherwise been lagging or 
decreasing for at least 20 years).

He attributed most of this gain to desktop computing.  He pointed out that the 
U.S., unlike our Asian and European competitors, has been investing heavily
in traditional fixed enterprise information systems for decades.  

Greenspan speculated that the presumed high returns from centralized, unified
information management systems may have actually been low or negative during 
most of this period.  

He further speculated that networks of desktop computers used for informal, 
flexible, ad hoc information modeling and management were producing large, 
positive, unanticipated returns.

There has been some rumbling about this theory for about a year among some 
academic economists.  This may have prompted somebody at one of the Fed
branches to look at the numbers.

Greenspan's hypothesis, if correct, goes a long way towards explaining the 
demise of IBM, the Seven Dwarfs (remember them?), unplugging, downsizing, 
outsourcing, etc.

This is on the same day the IBM cut its sacrosanct dividend.  There was
even some talk about Scully (of Apple) as a replacement for Aikers (IBM 
Chairman, recently deposed as CEO).

-George
Newsgroups: comp.infosystems
From: jfmburg@cs.vu.nl (JFM Burg)
Subject: abbreviations?
Organization: Fac. Wiskunde & Informatica, VU, Amsterdam
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL8]
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 09:05:08 GMT


Hey,


Does anyone know where the following abbreviations stand for:

	- DCS	(Data Communication System????)
	- PLC	


Thanks in advance,

				Hans


-- 
				Hans Burg
				Vrije Universiteit
				Amsterdam, Holland
				e-mail : jfmburg@cs.vu.nl
From: josephs@msen.com (Joseph Stroup)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: Users Group
Date: 25 Jan 1993 02:07:22 -0500
Organization: Msen, Inc. -- Ann Arbor, Michigan
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: garnet.msen.com

Zmodem through PDP's ? I agree with Ed from Msen. There are
much better ways of doing things. Theres a new users group here
in the Ann Arbor area that you can join and do e-mail, news, ftp
and more....Why waste the time trying a hack. There are many good
sites to go to. Telnet & all the rest are a phone call away. There
is a real plus to being part of a users group. For info on the new
Network Users Group, Ltd = a Non Profit group and access, mail to...



              info@sally.joe.com
              
-- 
J. Stroup     Manager  Network Users Group, Ltd.
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: jensenm@meena.cc.uregina.ca
Subject: RE: Maximus Utilities
Date: 25 JAN 93 14:53:43 GMT
Organization: University of Regina, Regina, Sask., Canada


In reply to eng20204@nusunix1.nus.sg (LEE MUH HWA)
RE: Maxiumus Utilities

You can locate Maximus utilities via ftp at WSMR-SIMTEL20.ARMY.MIL they have
some things there, I've noticed.


-Mike-


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Michael Jensen, University of Regina, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada

JENSENM@MEENA.CC.UREGINA.CA -or- JENSENMI@MAX.CC.UREGINA.CA

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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: stmfarqu@atlas.cs.upei.ca (Michael J. Farquharson)
Subject: Maximus Utilities
Organization: University of Prince Edward Island
Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:20:14 GMT

If you're looking for Maximus Utilities there is a site started in Germany
which we are trying to get as many utilities as we can onto.  The site is at
134.2.71.63... they have been having some problems lately but as far as I know
those problems are fixed.  All of the files are in the directory:
/pub/msdos/bbs/maximus-utils.  If you should get your hands on any MAXIMUS
utilities that you'd like others to be able to download, please feel free to
upload them into the /incoming directory along with a text file explaining
what the file does.  Hope this helps!  Later.

===============================================================================
Michael Farquharson  | Sysop:  Starbase 1 BBS, Sherwood, P.E.I., Canada
stmfarqu@upei.ca     | Phone:  (902)-628-1230
UPEI Engineering     | Running Maximus 2.01wb with SupraFAXModem 14.4
===============================================================================

From: dhm@hpsmtc1.cup.hp.com (Daniel H. Miller)
Date: Wed, 27 Jan 1993 01:14:50 GMT
Subject: Re: 800 E-mail
Organization: Hewlett Packard, Cupertino
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc

> Does anyone know of any 1-800 boards or services (that are free) that may
> be available with access to E-mail services.

The following Freenet announcement is from a while ago (1990) so the details
might be a little wrong, but the service is still there since I correspond
with people there.  Good luck!                  ... Dan (dhm@cup.hp.com)

>From alai@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU Tue Sep 11 10:01:09 1990
Relay-Version: version Notes 2.8.4  1990/05/09; site hpsmtc1.HP.COM
>From: alai@oucsace.cs.OHIOU.EDU (Alex Lai)
Date: Tue, 11 Sep 1990 17:01:09 GMT
Date-Received: Wed, 12 Sep 1990 08:56:58 GMT
Subject: Cleveland Free-Net
Organization: Ohio University CS Dept., Athens
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.bbs.ads
Followup-to: poster
Keywords: bbs, telnet, BBS


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From: Joseph R. Ziska <JZISKA@auvm.american.edu>
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
Subject: 800 E-mail

Does anyone know of any 1-800 boards or services (that are free) that
may be available with access to E-mail services.

I know of someone in Cleveland who needs to get on E-mail and doesn't have
the money for Compuserve or prodigy.

Thanks,


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
From: larry@trauma.rn.com (Larry Snyder)
Subject: Re: Questions about TBBS
Organization: Gator Communications - Feeds-R-Us 219-289-3745 
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 11:24:09 GMT

rice@ttd.teradyne.com writes:

>What's this "WE" stuff Larry ? You don't run a TBBS system, all you do is
>'run it down'.

I do own a copy of TBBS.  We is implied to mean "all of us" -- or "any who
is interested in running it".

I post factual information on the value and what the product is capable
of doing.  

-- 
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keeper of the Gator                                   uucp: uunet!gator!larry
Xref: sparky comp.bbs.misc:1879 alt.bbs:8192
From: kendelm@helium.gas.uug.arizona.edu (kendel m mccarley)
Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc,alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Questions about TBBS
Date: 25 Jan 93 23:19:23 GMT
Organization: University of Arizona UNIX Users Group

cblaise@moose.uvm.edu (Chris Blaise) writes:

>	The upgrade price from v1.0 is $45.  If they keep the same price,
>the retail price will be $160 and no need for SeaDog.

> TTYL

Anybody know what timeframe is considered a free upgrade?


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Newsgroups: comp.bbs.misc
From: s4uhkm@fnma.COM (Howie Michalski)
Subject: Usenet Feed Saught !URGENT!
Reply-To: s4uhkm@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Tue, 26 Jan 1993 17:04:24 GMT

ATTENTION CANADA REMOTE SYSTEMS, ONTARIO

I had requested info regarding your usenet/uucp feed service - but have not
received a call-back.  Please contact me as soon as possible.

If anyone knows where I can get a resonably priced Usenet feed (long
distance is not a problem) please respond via email!  My only requirements
are 1) No extra cost for large transmissions (per minute/hour connect charges
okay);  2) I want my own domain name - i.e. I do not want to have your
site listed in my internet address; and 3) it is reliable.

I am looking to start this up VERY SOON - any help will be appreciated!

Thanks,
Howie


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