HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs,alt.allsysop
Subject: Re: SYSOP BUSTED FOR PORNO IN OHIO!
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:21:58 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

I hate to say it, but putting adult material where kids can see it is
really stupid. I don't favor censorship, but I do believe that kids
inputs should be controlled by the parents until the kids are old enough
to make their own decisions.

If the kid falsified his registration, then he can be charged with
"filing a false instrument" (I believe that's the right term), and the
police have used entrapment. however, it's all moot, since the police
have the computer and will find whatever they need to convict, and the
sysop will need to buy a new computer because it will probably cost more
to sue to the that one back than it will to replace the system.

Freedom of speech belongs only to the rich, unfortunately. And those who
utter politically correct speech and can get free legal aid from people
like the ACLU, who defend those liberties of which they approve.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop
From: finis@Informatik.TU-Muenchen.DE (Carsten Finis)
Subject: Re: BBS
Originator: finis@hphalle7i.informatik.tu-muenchen.de
Organization: Technische Universitaet Muenchen, Germany
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 1992 08:10:31 GMT
Distribution: na


In article <2w9ldrq.tweek@netcom.com>, tweek@netcom.com (Michael D. Maxfield) writes:
|> In article <qe0NNB2w165w@willard.UUCP> dawson@willard.UUCP writes:
|> >visbrown@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (BILL) writes:
|> >
|> >> In article <273.513.uupcb@matrix.sbs.com>, jeff.roberts@matrix.sbs.com (Jeff 
|> >> >CALL ALCATRAZ 631-0833 (part-time 10pm to 5am)
|> >> >                                                                            
|> [STUFF DELEATED]
|> >quoted, you would have seen that Matrix is a site in Birmingham, Alabama.
|> >My knowledge of geography tells me that that would be the Central time
|> >zone.  My knowledge of local custom tells me that it would be Central
|> >daylight time, this time of year.
|> >
|> >Perhaps your knowledge is somewhat less applicative?
|> >-- 
|> >dawson@willard.UUCP (Willard Dawson)
|> >Willard's House BBS, Atlanta, GA -- +1 (404) 664 8814
|> 
|> A better question would be, "Why would there be any reason for someone not 
|> in the local area of this bbs to call it.?"
|> It's not full time, It can't have that many callers???
|> What can it provide that my own local area bbses don't?
|> 
|> **************************************************************************
|> *  tweek@netcom.netcom.com  tweek@tweekco.uucp  WWIVNet 5@5058  4@5056   *
|> **************************************************************************
gee, I heard, you guys in the U.S. don't have to pay for a local call...
Shit and shit again... here in good old Germany there are very few BBSs
if you don't live near a big City!
And here a local call costs about 16 cents every 12 minutes if you call
at night and if you call between 8 a.m. and 6 p.m. it costs 16 cents
every 4 minutes!
But if you don't have a BBS near you you have to pay 48 cents for one
(!!) minute at night, not to think of day time.... :-(

So long... (frustrated)

   Carsten
   Gateway-Operator CoLGate Fido <-> PCNet Gateway 2:246/250
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs
From: aj834@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott A. Maehner)
Subject: BBS Disclaimer Announcements
Reply-To: aj834@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Scott A. Maehner)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Fri, 24 Jul 92 03:14:29 GMT


Greetings, I'm collecting disclaimer messages to see what sysops put
on their BBSs at logins to avoid lawsuits of every flavor from
disgruntled users.  I'm very interested in what you folks all have as I'm
trying to write up one of my own.  Samples, advice, and horror stories
all appreciated.  Please send them to me via e-mail.  Thanks in advance.
-- 
Internet: aj834@cleveland.freenet.edu
Bitnet: aj834%cleveland.freenet.edu@cunyvm
WWWA Messenger Service: I will send any message for you.
"Those whom gods destroy, they would first make rad."  --Kurt Wilcken 
Xref: sparky alt.bbs.allsysop:564 alt.bbs:4888 alt.allsysop:4
From: visbieda@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Christopher Bieda)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs.allsysop,alt.bbs,alt.allsysop
Subject: Re: SYSOP BUSTED FOR PORNO IN OHIO!
Date: 26 Jul 92 17:23:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Jul26.053716.115345@zeus.calpoly.edu>, cambler@zeus.calpoly.edu (The Squire, Phish) writes...

>Unless I am mistaken and the Ohio paper in question has the same name,
>the "Plain Dealer" is one of those free religious propoganda infopapers.
> 
>Someone please correct me if I am wrong.

You're wrong.  <G>  The Plain Dealer is Cleveland's major metropolitan daily,
and is pretty darned good.
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: vancleef@pioneer.arc.nasa.gov (Robert VanCleef--RCS)
Subject: Re: where to ftp msdos BBS software?
Organization: NASA/Ames Research Center
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 16:27:50 GMT

In article <Jul29.050449.78340@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU>, cn451156@LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Christopher Norman) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul29.023428.4818@ncsu.edu> jrjohns@eos.ncsu.edu (John R. Johns II) writes:
|> >
|> >P.S. Could you go back and tell me what that "2600" is supposed to be, now?
|> >
|> >-- 
|> 2600 is I believe an electronic magazine (.txt file) that is all about modeming
|> 

2600 is a real magazine, published out of New York, which basically
supports the "cracker" community. It reprints extracts of documentation
from phone company manuals as quides for manipulating the phone system,
pay phones, and other such.  It proports to be highly technical, but in
actuality most of the stuff is a the procedural level.  (Such as what
the default passwords are in a vendor distribution.) However, every now
and then they do publish key techniques for break into systems.

I do not have their address here at work, and I have allowed my subscription
to lapse because of "lack of interest" in their articles.

Bob

Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: kgermann@zeos.com (Ken Germann)
Subject: Re: internet access in Chicago? 312 & 708
Organization: Zeos International, Ltd. 
Date: Sat, 25 Jul 1992 15:33:11 GMT
Keywords: internet

In article <2a6f69d8-1019alt.bbs@vpnet.chi.il.us> akcs.damir@vpnet.chi.il.us (Damir Matanic) writes:
> Does anyone know how to gain internet access in the 312 and 708 chicago
>areas?
>Damir

UUNET will be setting up a HUB in the chicago area.
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: BPOELLN1@ua1vm.ua.edu
Subject: Re: BBS Summary
Organization: The University of Alabama, Tuscaloosa
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 04:58:28 GMT

In article <BrywBn.64K@acsu.buffalo.edu>
v120qldp@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (PATRICK FERREL) writes:
 
>
>The only think wrong with WWIV is that it can't connect to Internet or Usenet.
>But, it has its own 1300-node net, WWIVnet, a 300 node net, WWIVLink, and an
>up-and-coming net which I am currently in, IceNet, which has 175 nodes.
>The next version, 4.21a, will have Multinet capability already installed,
>meaning that you can be in both WWIVnet and IceNet at the same time.
>
>Of course I'm partial to WWIV, but I still like it the best.
>
 
Don't forget that there is now a gateway between WWIVNet and the internet
courtesy of tfsquad.mn.org.  The how-to's were posted herenot long ago,
or if you missed it, mail me for details.
 
Brian
bpoelln1@ua1vm.ua.edu
Organization: Carnegie Mellon, Pittsburgh, PA
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,alt.allsysop,alt.bbs.allsysop
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 17:42:36 -0400 
From: "Steve D. Leu" <sl3w+@andrew.cmu.edu>
Subject: Re: SYSOP BUSTED FOR PORNO IN OHIO!
	<Bs086x.LHu@acsu.buffalo.edu>

>You're wrong.  <G>  The Plain Dealer is Cleveland's major metropolitan daily,
>and is pretty darned good.

It's the only newspaper in Cleveland by the way.  So it is a fairly
reliable source.   In addition, this story was reported in the local
news.


Xref: sparky alt.bbs:4799 comp.terminals:958
From: mchalmer@mcs213a.cs.umr.edu (Matthew Chalmers)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs,comp.terminals
Subject: Re: terminal control codes
Keywords: ANSI, VT100, terminal
Date: 21 Jul 92 18:59:24 GMT
Followup-To: alt.bbs
Organization: University of Missouri - Rolla

>...so I say again, could someone
>SEND or POST a list of the ANSI escape sequences?

Can't you just go to a book store and read/buy a book/ref with them in it?
MS-DOS Batch Files is a cheap, good book with all but about two of the ANSI
Escape Sequences (not ALL the ANSI codes -- the book would be miles thick),
and it's only about 6 bucks. Other books like MS-DOS Power User's Guide and
the like have ANSI Esc codes...

I think you're making them harder to find than they are...
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu (Matt Hucke)
Subject: Re: WWIV
Keywords: WWIV
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 20:50:30 GMT

In article <Bs0K3H.E9t@news.cso.uiuc.edu> bau55536@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Larry Combs Jr.   ) writes:
> A friend of mine wants to know where WWIV is available from (i.e. ftp sites)
> Can Anyone Out there assist?

I uploaded the newest publicly available version, 4.21, to wuarchive.wustl.edu,
/pub/MSDOS_UPLOADS/wwiv421.zip.

Version 4.21a will be available within a few weeks, hopefully.  I'll download
it from Amber and put it on wuarchive ASAP.
-- 
   And thither came Conan, a thief, a reaver, a slayer, to tread the jeweled 
   thrones of the Earth beneath his sandaled feet.  --THE NEMEDIAN CHRONICLES 
hucke@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu             _V_a_l_h_a_l_l_a BBS, 217-352-3682, WWIV4.21, 14.4k
From: pfaffman@pilot.njin.net (Jay Pfaffman)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: USRobotics SysOp deal
Date: 30 Jul 92 00:10:07 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

I recently bought a SupraFax Modem v.32bis which also does v.42 &
mnp1-5 (& 10?).  Their sysop deal gives it to you for $250.  My order
was shipped in less than a week & it would have been sooner if I
hadn't given them the wrong billing address for my credit card.  Their
main requirement was that I supply a phone bill proving I had a bbs.

I don't work for Supra. Etc. . .

-- 
Jay Pfaffman, Computer Coordinator        pfaffman@pilot.njin.net
Dwight-Englewood School, 315 E. Palisade Ave.                      
Englewood, NJ  07631-0489                 201-569-9500
From: jim@jjruu.UUCP (Jim Riederer)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: RE: Doorway
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 92 08:55:18 CDT
Organization: Fuzzy's Place

I have Doorway on my BBS.  I run a WILDCAT BBS, and I use Doorway
to run WAFFLE to access newgroups.  Works great.

------------
Jim Riederer                            | "I'm a Doctor, not a brick
Fuzzy's Place BBS    (612)-780-1039     |  layer!"  -  Leonard McCoy
Email: jim%minnow@rosevax.rosemount.com |
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: bbs.claebaur@tsoft.sf-bay.org (Tony Annese)
Subject: Re: Virus BBS's
Organization: The TSoft BBS and Public Access Unix, +1 415 969 8238
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 1992 09:47:13 GMT

brianc@eskimo.celestial.com (Brian C) writes:

> Could someone post or e-mail me a list of virus related bbs #'s:
> 
> Brian
> 

Home Base home of CVIA and McAfee Associates who put out Viruscan and 
Virushield and Virusclean. 408-988-4004

--
Tony Annese (bbs.claebaur@tsoft.sf-bay.org)
From: jmeier@mother.bates.edu (Jon Meier)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: RBBS-PC and OS/2
Date: 24 Jul 92 12:23:56 GMT
Organization: Bates College

Has anyone run RBBS-PC with OS/2?
Is it possible?  Are there problems?

Any info would be appreciated.


-Jon Meier
jmeier@bat.bates.edu
jmeier@lablues
From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: SYSOP BUSTED FOR PORNO IN OHIO!
Date: 28 Jul 92 21:49:19 GMT
Reply-To: davidsen@crd.ge.com (bill davidsen)
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center, Schenectady NY

In article <pdmmxsk.wally@netcom.com>, wally@netcom.com (Wally Schwarz) writes:

| No, the only true way to verify the age is for you to see the person face
| to face and see a photo id at the same time. How many users are willing to
| do that on a bbs?

  A notarized copy of a driver's license would be a good start.
-- 
bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
	It never ceases to amaze me that otherwise rational people, able to
	understand calculus, compound interest, and the income tax form, can
	continue to believe that poker is a game of chance.
From: pfrazie@andy.bgsu.edu (Paul M. Frazier)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: RA and newsgroups
Keywords: RemoteAccess, Newsgroups
Date: 29 Jul 92 15:41:42 GMT
Organization: Chez Paul BBS


I am trying to set up a BBS using RA and pulling in usenet newsgroups.  A
friend of mine says he can set me up in Opus to do this, but the software 
he has (UFGATE?) creates *.MSG format messages.  Is there a way to import 
these messages into RA?  Is there a better piece of software to use to 
import and export newsgroup messages using RA?  
 
Any other advice is welcome!

(Not that I dislike Opus that much, I just like RA a lot more.)

Thanks,
   Paul
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: pauls@icecreambar.css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth)
Subject: Re: SYSOP BUSTED FOR PORNO IN OHIO!
Organization: University of Michigan
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 13:12:32 GMT

In article <1992Jul26.204251.421@usenet.ins.cwru.edu>  
aa387@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Jim Kutz) writes:


..

>  
>     Anyone with further data on this or similar cases is invited to
>     post it here.

The latest issue of CompuServe magazine has an article about Playboy suing  
some bloke in Portland, OR over copyrighted GIFs.  You all might want to  
get your hands on it, since it has some information relevant to cases like  
this.  The defense's case, as I understand it, is submitting that a public  
BBS should be treated like one treats the US Mail--that the exchange of  
files by individuals on the board cannot result in operator liability,  
just as the US mail is not responsible for people who mail smack or kiddie  
doggie porno or bombs to each other.
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: clear@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz (Charlie Lear)
Subject: Re: Multi-Line BBS's
Organization: The Cave MegaBBS, Public Access Usenet, Wellington, NZ
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 92 22:16:10 GMT

In article <aaronb.1b73@hotcity.COM> aaronb@hotcity.COM (Aaron Bromagem) 
quoted someone else but I zapped the attribution line:
>>Call the phone company and tell them you need 4 lines in a "hunt group". 
>>That way, a caller dials one number and gets the first open (not busy) 
>>line.

One caveat with hunt groups: BBS software, serial ports and modems can and
will fall over.  If you have a hunt group 1-2-3-4-5, and publicise it as
"Dial 838-8331 - five lines!", any problem which causes a modem to fail
will lock out all lines after it in the hunt group.  If modem 2 doesn't 
reset properly, when node 1 is engaged all subsequent callers will get
an unanswered ring signal - because the telephone exchange is only forwarding
as far as the first non-busy line in the hunt group.  There may be nothing
wrong with nodes 3,4 and 5 but the callers don't get that far.

You will need either a phone on each line or some form of adapter to busy
out each line when you want to do maintenance on any specific node.  If
you don't busy it out, calls won't hunt past it.

Another point concerns the hardware on the end of the lines: you need to
have the same spec. modems on all lines in the group.  You can't, for example,
have a V32 modem on node 1 and three 2400 modems - you will only annoy V32
callers as they will almost always be shunted through to a slow node, when
they would rather redial until the fast one is free.  (Yes, you can have a
different modem on the last number in the hunt group, and tell people the
specific number to call, but that defeats the purpose of hunting.)

I got hunting on the first two lines of my BBS.  When I got another four,
I got separate lines.  The administration and maintenance hassles are a lot
less, and users don't mind adding numbers to their comms program directories.
This obviously doesn't apply to boards with (say) 10 or more lines - hunting
becomes practically the only option to avoid user confusion, unless you are
lucky enough to bag a range of numbers in sequence, eg 322-4322,23,24,25.

-- 
Charlie "The Bear" Lear | clear@cavebbs.welly.gen.nz | Kawasaki 750GT DoD#0221
Ph/Fax +64 4 564-5307 |  You're not paranoid.  They really ARE out to get you.
  The Cave MegaBBS +64 4 5642269 V32 | PO Box 2009, Wellington, New Zealand
From: visbieda@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Christopher Bieda)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Wanted: BBS List for area code 716
Date: 25 Jul 92 01:39:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <2177298@overmind.citadel>, disk.uucp!judy@overmind.mind.org writes...

>  But I would be greatful for a list of any BBS'es in the 716 area code.

Okay, *that* I can do: start with the Buffalo IBM-PC User Group BBS at
716-695-0583, 2400bps, 8N1, ANSI.  We've got a list of other metro Buffalo
systems, and those systems do likewise, and eventually, you'll end up
between Rochester and Syracuse.  (And despite the fact that this is a
member-supported BBS, the public is welcome, always, to this open Node.)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: jerryg@ssd.intel.com (Jerry Gaiser)
Subject: Re: SYSOP BUSTED FOR PORNO IN OHIO!
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Date: Wed, 29 Jul 1992 15:53:59 GMT

In article <1992Jul28.131232.6287@terminator.cc.umich.edu> pauls@icecreambar.css.itd.umich.edu (Paul Southworth) writes:
>The latest issue of CompuServe magazine has an article about Playboy suing  
>some bloke in Portland, OR over copyrighted GIFs.  You all might want to  
>get your hands on it, since it has some information relevant to cases like  

Ah, yes. Mr. Maxey. The trouble with his defense is that he would put his own
copyright notices on the scanned GIFs and the vigorously run down any sysop that
would _dare_ place any of _his_ GIFs on their boards without permission.
-- 
Jerry Gaiser
         Usenet: jerryg@ssd.intel.com
        Fidonet: 1:105/380
           PBBS: n7pwf@n7pwf.or.usa.na
From: rdippold@cancun.qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: Prodigy/Internet
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:30:08 GMT
Organization: Qualcomm, Inc., San Diego, CA

dimshftr@netlink.cts.com (Adam Tow) writes:
>        Does Prodigy offer mail gateways to the Internet? If so, does
>the same go for Internet to Prodigy? Thanks.

No and no.  There have been rumors of such a thing possibly appearing,
but at the moment, no.
-- 
"Needless to say, claims of a 30 percent illiteracy rate in the United States
are wholly without foundation. The real literacy rate is less than 5 percent."
             -- Lane Kirkland, AFL-CIO president, poster child
From: yury@bknight.jpr.com (Yury German)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: [REPLY]: Are BBS dedicated Computers
Distribution: world
X-NewsSoftware: Amiga GRn 1.16c (6/22/92) by Mike Schwartz & Michael B. Smith
Date: 23 Jul 92 21:48:17 GMT
Organization: Blue Knight Productions

In article <17JUL199220053492@cc.utah.edu> beezer@cc.utah.edu (BEEZER) writes:
>_____________________________________________________________________
>
>Bulletin Board Systems usually take up an entire system, but some
>will operate with a multi-task handler (ie. DesqView).
>
>For the sake of availablity, speed, and lack of conflict with other
>programs - a dedicated machine would be best for a 'small BBS'.

	Well I have seen great implementations of multi PORT Multi Line
Non Decated machine Using UNIX. The software I was heering good about is
COCONET... if I am correct that does not take over your system. But I
think you need at least a 386 to be of any use,

-- 
    _____________________________________________________________________
   |                                                                     |
   | Yury German                  yury@bknight                           |
   | Blue-Knight Productions      GENIE EMAIL: Blue-Knight               |
   | (212)218-1348                (Graphic Design and Video Productions) |
   | (718)321-0998                P.O. Box 985, Queens, New York, 11354  |
   |_____________________________________________________________________|

Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: Erik.Paulson@bbs.oit.unc.edu (Erik Paulson)
Subject: TAGBBS Problem
Organization: Extended Bulletin Board Service
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 21:39:13 GMT

also, does anyone have any utilities for Tag? I am really looking for a
better dos shell than minidos, and a split screen chat like the one in
WWIV would be nice)



--
   The opinions expressed are not necessarily those of the University of
     North Carolina at Chapel Hill, the Campus Office for Information
        Technology, or the Experimental Bulletin Board Service.
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Newsgroups: alt.bbs
From: jerryg@ssd.intel.com (Jerry Gaiser)
Subject: Re: Is there a FIDO beginners guide?
Organization: Supercomputer Systems Division, Intel Corp.
Date: Mon, 27 Jul 1992 15:59:36 GMT

In article <1992Jul27.144422.7459@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> swalter@nyx.cs.du.edu (DreamWeaver) writes:
>
>I'm not sure if this counts as a beginner's guide, but over on
>m2xenix.psg.com in /pub/fidonet is a massive collection of material that

I'm not sure when you tried last, but I haven't been able to connect via ftp to
m2xenix for quite some time. All I ever get is "Service not available, remote server
has closed connection".
-- 
Jerry Gaiser
         Usenet: jerryg@ssd.intel.com
        Fidonet: 1:105/380
           PBBS: n7pwf@n7pwf.or.usa.na
From: psycho@whitebase.ukp.com (Psycho dude)
Newsgroups: alt.bbs
Subject: Re: BBS Summary
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 92 07:36:24 EDT
Organization: UKP Systems, Middletown, NJ

v120qldp@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (PATRICK FERREL) writes:

> In article <qwZeoB13w164w@whitebase.ukp.com>, psycho@whitebase.ukp.com (Psych
> >holder@telesoft.com (Robert L. Holder @ignite) writes:
> > 
> >Waffle... good message base but not a very good file base.
> >WWIV - an old style BBS program.  NOt very SYsOp friendly.
> >8r
> >L8r... remember these are my opinions... I've run LSD, Mirage, and Telegard 
> >as a SYsOp and I've been on all of those boards.
> 
> Robert -=- First of all, it should be noted that all the software mentioned a
> run on DOS.  Waffle can be run on Unix as well, but it costs about $120 for
> Unix.
> 
> Psycho -=- I don't know why you say that WWIV is old style.  I personally lik
> WWIV better, which is why I run my board with it.  I don't find that it is no
> SysOp Friendly.
> 
> I've been on WWIV, Telegard (a WWIV hack), Forum, RBBS, Tag, Opus, Wildcat,
> LSD, PBX, Oracomm, PCBoard, and Waffle.  I like WWIV the best.
> 
> The only think wrong with WWIV is that it can't connect to Internet or Usenet
> But, it has its own 1300-node net, WWIVnet, a 300 node net, WWIVLink, and an 
> up-and-coming net which I am currently in, IceNet, which has 175 nodes. 
> The next version, 4.21a, will have Multinet capability already installed,
> meaning that you can be in both WWIVnet and IceNet at the same time. 
> 
> Of course I'm partial to WWIV, but I still like it the best.
> 
> 
> Patrick A. Ferrel - Scholar. Helpless romantic. Modem geek.  | Disaster Area
> v120qldp@ubvms.buffalo.edu | WWIVnet 42@7652 | IceNET 1@7659 | (716)683-6657


Well, I've run WWIV before and you can't access any of the SysOpcommands 
without shelling and running the editor program.  and there is no SysOp menu 
which makes everything kinda difficult.  I prefer Tgard because I liked the 
functions from WWIV, but a SysOp menu was really helpful and I liked Tgard's 
menus.
L8r