HDTenEightyP/NetNews huggingface dataset:
From: M18611@MBVM.Mitre.Org (Kathy Wilk)
Subject: Re: The Schoo Didn't Fit
Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford MA 01730
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 18:31:47 GMT

In article <1993Jan8.185141.9968@sequent.com>
petel@sequent.com (Pete Lancashire) writes:
>
>I'm not a parent, but if you check with your local CSD you may be
>shocked. Although the time they were planning to stay away was longer
>then most, a lot of 'parents' see nothing wrong with leaving kids that
>age or younger alone for 2, or 3 days. I think the reason this hit the
>news (other than a good money maker) is that they were 'middle-class',
>it is very easy in this country to make it sound and look like these
>problems only exist if the 'parents' are 'poor'.
>
>-pete
>petel@sequent.com
>Pete Lancashire
 
  Since the Schoo incident, I read about a case in New Hampshire:  three kids
left alone with a baby.  (This was not even overnight - the mother came home
around 2 a.m.)  The police arrived and looked in the window to see the baby in
a Swingomatic (those swings that get cranked up by hand and swing back and
forth).  Somehow, the baby was still in the swing but on the floor, head over
heels and crying.  No one came to pick the baby up!
 
                        K. Wilk
                        M18611@MBVM.MITRE.ORG
 
            <--********************************-->
 'Thrusting my nose firmly between his teeth, I threw him to the ground
  on top of me.' - Mark Twain
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From: galster@plains.NoDak.edu (Dwight Galster)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: looking for a mom
Summary: Apology
Date: 9 Jan 93 20:20:17 GMT
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Distribution: usa
Organization: North Dakota Higher Education Computing Network

So sorry--I've done a terrible thing.  I inadvertently posted to this
newsgroup a file that contained a personal message from someone else.
Please do not respond to the person in that article!!!!

Dwight
From: lcheap@cac.washington.edu (Laurel Cheap )
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: A few Questions
Date: 11 Jan 93 21:05:32 GMT
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In article <1iinuuINNdpo@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, lisa@elc11.icase.edu (Lisa A. Leutenegger) writes:

|> 2)  Is it physically possible to change a crib sheet with the
|>     matress still in the crib???

How many hands does it take to change a crib sheet?

5 - one for each corner and one to hold the baby. :)

Seriously, I manage to leave the mattress in the crib by pushing the
two corners of the sheet around the head of the mattress from the inside
of the crib then pulling the sheet down around that end of the mattress
from the outside of the crib.  Repeat for the foot of the crib.  We
have a Jenny Lind style crib which gives us access to the mattress from
the outside through the bars.  I don't know if this would work with other styles.

|> 3)  Are we the only parents around that don't change our baby into
|>     pajamas before putting him to bed? 

We always change Brendan for the following reasons:

1.  Most pajamas are safer in the event of a fire.
2.  The routine establishes a definite night-time, go-to-sleep atmosphere.
3.  It's easier to do the middle of the night changes in some kinds of
    sleepwear.  When Brendan was going through this phase, I put him in
    those "layettes" with the drawstring at the bottom.  They were great 
    for night-time but we wanted something with legs during the day (for
    the carseat, swing, snuggli, etc...).
 
|> 			---lisa  (mom to Alex - 8/14/92)

Great day to give birth (8/14), Brendan was born 8/14/91!

-Laurel
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From: bab2@nestor.cc.bellcore.com (barter,elizabeth)
Subject: Re: A few Questions
Organization: Bellcore, Livingston, NJ
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 93 17:14:51 GMT

In article <1iinuuINNdpo@rave.larc.nasa.gov>, lisa@elc11.icase.edu (Lisa A. Leutenegger) writes:
> As Alex nears his 5 month birthday I have a few questions:
> 
> 2)  Is it physically possible to change a crib sheet with the
>     matress still in the crib???  We just moved Alex out of his
>     cradle and his occassional overnight diaper leaks are considerably 
>     more of a hassle to deal with - the only way I can change the sheet 
>     is to remove the entire matress.
> 
My sisters have always layered the sheets, mattress, rubber sheet, crib
sheet, rubber sheet, crib sheet, rubber sheet, crib sheet and so on...
that way when overnight leaks do occur you only have to peel off one
layer and not mess with the mattress all the time.  And no one gets their
sleep too disturbed.  It seems to work for them.
> 
> 			---lisa  (mom to Alex - 8/14/92)

Beth

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From: goldberg@eldyn.gsfc.nasa.gov (Patti Twigg)
Subject: Re: Diaper question.
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1  
Organization: NASA Goddard Space Flight Center - Greenbelt, MD, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 03:38:00 GMT

In article <93006.155825CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu>, CLH7@psuvm.psu.edu (Chris Himes) writes...
>In article <16B4EB503.M17257@mwvm.mitre.org>, M17257@mwvm.mitre.org says:
>>
>>I personnally do not like the newer huggies, not sure if they're the
>>ultrtrim variety, but they're the steps or phases kind.  They do not
>>hold as much as there old style did, nor are they as absorbent as
>>Luvs and Pampers.  The tapes on the waistband also do not unfasten as
>>easily as L or P's or as easily as their old style did.
>>
>>just MHO. Not affiliated with any of them
>>
>>Ellie Blackwell
> 
>I agree with Ellie about Huggies.  They have never fit Doug as well as Pampers
>or Luvs.  We have some of the ultrtrims now and they don't seem quite as
>absorbent as the old Huggies, or Pampers or Luvs.  I had a real problem the
>last visit to the dr. with Doug because we couldn't get the tabs loose on the
>Huggies and couldn't re-use the diaper.  Just annoying I guess.
> 
>Doug is short and while not "overweight" has a big belly.  The huggies "large"
>are really too long for him, but the "mediums" don't fit around the waist well.
>I never thought there would be that much difference between brands.
> 
>Chris Himes

Well, let me add my 2 cents to this. When my kids were younger, I used
Luvs almost exclusively, since they were the least likely to leak.
But, now that my youngest is *finally* potty trained, and just wears
diapers at night, I have found that the extra large Huggies are
large than the extra large Pampers and Luvs. So, the Huggies are
all that fit him now. And, I have not had any leakage problems with
them. Of course, in the 7 years I have been using diapers, they
have improved, too.
                        Patti Twigg
From: amy@vineland.pubs.stratus.com (Amy McNulty)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: Fertility and frequency
Date: 11 Jan 1993 18:23:54 GMT
Organization: Stratus Computer Inc, Marlboro MA
NNTP-Posting-Host: blueheron.pubs.stratus.com

In article <1isa0oINN63s@crcnis1.unl.edu> mpaul@unl.edu (marxhausen  
paul) writes:
> srheault@alfred.carleton.ca (Steven Rheault Kihara) writes:
> 
> >To put a fine point on it, how long does it take for sperm to build  
up
> >after they are released? Should we wait 24 hours? 48 hours? Are  
there
> >enough sperm to try again the same day?
> 
> My recollection on this subject is that daily or more frequent sex  
results
> in a reduction of sperm count; your body can't quite catch up.  If I  
recall
> rightly, levels are recovered fully with a 48 hour spacing.  My  
source
> (now forgotten) said it's not uncommon for folks trying to maximize  
their
> fertility opportunities to work against their purposes by  
too-frequent
> sex.

We asked our infertility doctor the same question. He said that
it does take about 48 hours for the number of sperm to reach
the peak level again; however, interestingly enough, having
sex either daily or every other day results in pretty much
the same TOTAL number of sperm being ejaculated. He said
they just don't know exactly what that means, but he felt
that either pattern was fine. If you're concerned about
waiting a full 48 hours, how about compromising at every
36 hours during peak fertility times (alternating mornings
and evenings)? 
______________________________________________________________
amy_mcnulty@vos.stratus.com  or  amy@vineland.pubs.stratus.com
Amy McNulty -- Stratus Computer, Marlboro, MA
Stratus pays me to write, but not to write this!
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From: Theresa Jarosz Alberti <sapphire@wings.micro.umn.edu>
Subject: Re: Help with Spanking Alternatives
X-Xxmessage-Id: <A76E1525E2026517@dialup-slip-1-23.gw.umn.edu>
X-Xxdate: Mon, 4 Jan 93 10:24:05 GMT
Organization: Authors with Twins
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1.1d7
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:00:02 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.045240.11706@news2.cis.umn.edu> Theresa Jarosz
Alberti, sapphire@wings.micro.umn.edu writes:
>I "spanked" them for the first time (slapped their hands) when, after
>hours of "no touch!" from me concerning the Christmas tree lights, I came
>into the room and found them playing with the lights AND my son had them
>wrapped around his neck!  

Just so you all don't think I'm totally irresponsible, we did only have a
half tree set up on a high end table, with just a few bells hanging down
so they could reach up and jangle them.  The only lights they were able
to reach was the cord going down to the plug-in behind the end table. 
They could only reach the cord by practically squeezing their bodies
behind the end table (which of course they did).  Just when you thought
you'd baby-proofed enough...

Thanks for all the feedback on spanking alternatives!  At least now I
feel like I have options in dealing with them.  

--Theresa Jarosz Alberti
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From: reid@metis.tti.com (Reid Kneeland)
Subject: Re: Preventive Antibiotics
Organization: Transaction Technology Inc.
Distribution: na
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 19:35:39 GMT

In article <5046@crl.LABS.TEK.COM> sjk@strl.labs.tek.com (Steven King) writes:
>In article <1993Jan5.173653.567@HQ.Ileaf.COM>, betsy@HQ.Ileaf.COM (Betsy Mandrus) writes:

>|> always go on Bactrim if amoxycillan fails. Bactrim is apparently very strong
>|> and kills about any infection, such as those colds that just won't go away.
>|> (I ASK for it in this cases.) Now we are using amoxycillan whenever a cold
>|> starts. That was effective for his last cold.

>We have a friend who is a Ped. nurse and she does this with her children.
>Her daughter has tubes, but she puts her on antibiotics at the first sign of
>a runny nose to help clear up the cold (and claims it really does clear up
>the cold more quickly).
>
>On the other hand, antibiotics only kill bacteria and not viruses.  Since
>a _real_ cold is caused by a virus, how could a round of antibiotics help
>to clear up a cold?  I understand that the antibiotic could help prevent
>a secondary bacterial infection, but I don't understand how it could effect
>the cold virus.

You're right.  It doesn't, and always giving antibiotics at the first sign
of a runny nose is not practicing good medicine.

On the other hand, bacterial infections can present some of the same
symptoms as a cold or flu, and treatment with antibiotics can thus appear
to have cured a cold.  And some people are more prone to secondary
bacterial infections than others; if they usualy get one with a cold,
antibiotics again might seem to reduce the severity of the cold when they
haven't.

>|> Disclaimer: I really like and trust my doctor. To his credit, he has never
>|> recommended tubes.

>Nor should he in your case.  He probably shouldn't even think about tubes
>unless your child has worked their way up to Augmentin and/or Ceclor.

A lot of ENTs are recommending change in diet as a first step.  Many
children with chronic ear infections are helped by eliminating dairy
products from the diet.  I *think* the mechanism is that they are
having a mild allergic reaction to the milk, which results in fluid
buildup in the ears, providing fertile ground for bacteria.  This
course of action seems to work for some children, and since it carries
no risk (unlike tubes or long-term antibiotics), it would seem to be
worth a try.  It can be hard to do, though.  Milk and its derivatives
(such as whey and casein) are found in many processed foods, even in
margarine and "non-dairy" toppings like Cool-Whip.

=====================================================================
Reid Kneeland
reid@tti.com  (that's MISTER reid@tti.com to you!)
Transaction Technology Inc., Santa Monica, CA, USA (310) 450-9111 x2499
The opinions expressed above do not necessarily etc etc...

Never trust a man who can count to 1,023 on his fingers.
From: valjorge@leapyear.EBay.Sun.COM (Valerie Jorge)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Milk Allergies
Date: 8 Jan 1993 23:34:51 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Mt. View, Ca.
NNTP-Posting-Host: leapyear.ebay.sun.com

Anyone out there gone through detecting milk allergies?
My son is 7 months and for about 6-8 weeks now (pretty
much since I started supplementing formula - is now
100% formula fed) has had a lot of congestion and 
no longer sleeps through the night.  He wakes up
hungry and seems gassy and uncomfortable.  I have
had his ears checked, no problems there.  We started
hypoallergenic formula yesterday, and the doctor
said if milk was the culprit, we need to continue
this formula for 7-10 days to see if it makes
a difference.

Going on 2 months of waking up a few times every
night is really taking its toll, as so many of
you know.  Funny, I don't FEEL tired all day,
but my brain only works at about 75% and I
find I respond to things in a "tired" way -
cry in the middle of meetings, etc.  You know...

Is there anything I'm missing?  I have spent
so much time thinking there is something I
should be doing to make Kevin happier, but
just wish he could tell me what is wrong!

If you have any advice, please pass it on.

Valerie Hayes
From: cma@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (christine.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: Castor Oil
Organization: AT&T
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 21:19:27 GMT
Summary: cleaning frenzy

> attribute the start of labor to floor-washing, but it does make me
> wonder if there's something about imminent delivery that brings on a
> cleaning frenzy.  So, Teresa, if you get that urge to clean the floor in

This is true, it's called "nesting" -- the sudden energy burst that some
pregnant women get just prior to going into labor, the urge to prepare the
nest and clean up for the newborn.  Our Lamaze instructor spoke about it,
said to be on the lookout if suddenly "mom" is cleaning out closets or
scrubbing floors, laudering curtains, etc etc.  Not everyone experiences
this, but it does happen (she said it happened to her twice).  

Christine
due in 12 days and waiting for the burst of cleaning frenzy energy to hit me
From: dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Diane Segelhorst)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Cute things they do, siblings
Date: 8 Jan 93 21:22:29 GMT
Reply-To: dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Diane Segelhorst)
Organization: Annapolis Detachment, CDNSWC

I have several cute stories to tell, all about sibling interaction:
(Brad is 2 years, 5 months, and Carrie is almost 7 months)

I finally found the tub ring so I could give Carrie a bath in the big
tub, rather than her little infant tub.  The first time I tried it,
Brad wanted to get in with her, but I thought it would be better if
she got used to the big tub before she had to worry about him splashing
her.  Well, her first bath was a disaster - she hated it.  The next
time I tried it, I let Brad get in with her.  She splashed him, he splashed
her, and both of them got upset when I ended the bath!  They were having
so much fun giggling at each other they never even noticed when I washed
their hair! (Hey, maybe this ought to go in the hairwashing FAQ)

Next story:  Our new house has a BIG countertop in the powder room,
specifically so I can avoid going upstairs for all diaper changes.
Of course we put nice recessed lights over it, which shine in Brad's
eyes when he lays down :-(.  So lately I've been having to change his
diapers in there in the dark.  Well, last night I was changing Carrie's
diaper in there, when Brad decided to drag his stool in from the kitchen.
I thought he wanted to "help".  Nope - he wanted to turn out the light
so it wouldn't shine in Carrie's eyes!

Next story:  Brad has determined that bouncing on the bed is fun.  A
few nights ago, he was in bouncing on my bed.  He wanted Carrie to come
bounce too, so I held her up in a standing position, and gently bounced
her.  She loved it!  It developed into a game, Brad would bounce, then
Carrie would sort of jump to be bounced, then she'd wait while he bounced,
then she would jump, ...  It was really cute.

Diane Segelhorst
dsegelho@oasys.dt.navy.mil
Mom to Brad, 2.5 years, and Carrie, 7 months
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From: derion@VAX309.NOSC.MIL (Toni Derion)
Subject: awesome fertility
Reply-To: derion@VAX309.NOSC.MIL
Organization: Naval Health Research Center, San Diego, CA
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 1993 21:42:08 GMT

This is a true story-- I am NOT making this up:

I have a friend in TX who gave birth last June.
She has an identical twin who some time ago gave birth to twins.
Her mother has sisters who are twins.
Her father has cousins who are twins.
And my friend gave birth to.... triplets! (NO fertility drugs)

I paid her a visit last April and at that time she was essentially
bedridden because her Dr didn't want her to go into premature
labor from (as I understood it) all that pressure (3 babies) on her cervix.
BTW she's in her mid 30's.  

TD
From: rabbit@lindy.Stanford.EDU (Aleta Hanna)
Newsgroups: misc.kids
Subject: Re: looking for book
Date: 5 Jan 1993 12:16:15 -0800
Organization: Stanford University
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I think the book you are looking for is called "Mouse Around".  I'd be
glad to e-mail the author and publisher (after I go home and look them
up) if I wern't too confused to figure out who actually asked.

Aleta

Stanford University
Maps and Records
aleta@bonair.stanford.edu
From: BIOSEE@UKCC.UKY.EDU (Stephanie Edelmann)
Subject: Santa Claus (Was Re: embarrassing things they do)
    <4570311@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com>
Organization: University of Kentucky
Date: Tue, 5 Jan 1993 12:04:05 GMT

In article <4570311@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com>
janem@hpfcdc.fc.hp.com (Jane Marcus) writes:
 
>[stuff deleted]
>
>niece's friend:  "There's no such thing as Santa Claus!"
>niece:  "There is too! But he doesn't really live in the North Pole...
>         he lives in Massachusetts!"
>
No he doesn't!  He lives in Lexington, Kentucky!
A couple of years ago, I drove by a school and saw a crossing guard
that looked just like Santa Claus (white beard, glasses - the real
thing!)  I remember telling my husband about it and thinking that
that was a perfect summer-job for Santa: protecting kids from being
run over.  I also considered telling the guy to apply for a job as Santa.
 
Well, this (no last) year around Christmas, I finally found out (I read
about him in the paper) that the guy really IS Santa in the mall - and
has been for years.  He keeps his beard in the summer for authenticicity
(sp.?).
 
>Jane Marcus
>jane@apollo.hp.com
 
Stephanie
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From: nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci)
Subject: Re: The Schoo Didn't Fit
Organization: AT&T
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 19:56:27 GMT

In article <29428@optima.cs.arizona.edu> bweiss@cs.arizona.edu (Beth Weiss) writes:
>nance@cbnewsd.cb.att.com (nancy.l.colucci) writes:
>|> 
>|> Since this story got nationwide (and probably worldwide) coverage,
>|> does anyone have any thoughts about what defense a couple could
>|> come up with for leaving their 9 and 4 year-old at home without
>|> supervision while they vacationed out of the country?
>|> It is getting so much coverage from the media (especially right here
>|> in the area) that every stone they upturn makes the front page.
>I was in the Chicago area when the case was first discovered, and
>there certainly was a lot of media coverage, perhaps even too much.
>Parading the Schoos through O'Hare in handcuffs certainly wasn't
>called for.
>However, I can't think of any defense for leaving a 9 year old and
>a 4 year old alone for more than an hour (and that would be pushing
>it), let alone for over a week while they vacationed out of the
>country.

There was some more investigative reporting done by some of Chicago's
elite :-), and it seems the Schoo's made their reservations in late
November for airfare only, and got a hotel room in some off-the-map
city that had no room phones and a scummy pool for about $30 a night.

On about December 23, when the children had been discovered and the
news broke, the couple reportedly checked out of that hotel and
checked into another more expensive hotel under a different name.

Now the grandmother has come out saying that she offered to watch the
children while the couple was gone but they said they had arranged for
a sitter.  The children, in their foster homes, are claiming that they
were often disciplined with belts and  other "weapons" and were
confined to their rooms with ropes and rocks.  (?)

All I can say or think is, I'm glad this story broke and these kids
will have a chance somehow.
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