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From: tanski@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Promos for: THE QUALITY OF LIFE (#235) + notes
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:36:15 CST
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In article <1992Nov8.122944.20910@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
> 
> Promos for the next new ST:TNG episode: "The Quality of Life" (#235) 
> were released today.  The actual program will air starting on Saturday,
> November 14th.  Following this will be a lovely batch of *six* holiday
> reruns.  The next new episode is the two-part "Chain of Command", out on
> January 2nd.  This is the lead-in for DEEP SPACE NINE, as Captain Picard 
> infiltrates the Cardassians... eventually finding himself at everyone's 
> soon to be favorite space station. DSN episode #1 (working title "Emissary")
> is expected to uplink on January 9th, along with Chain of Command Part-2.  
> Stay tuned!  Star Trek will be back in force! :-)
> 
> 
I just attended the Dreamwerks convection here in Chicago and one of the
speakers was Rene Auberjonois, who plays "Odo" and mentioned that the 
preimere episode of DSN is not related to "Chain of Command".  He did
mention that he saw the filming of "Chain..." but didn't say anything
beyond that.

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From: Ira_J._Seskin@fourd.com
Organization: 4th Dimension BBS
Date: Sun, 22 Nov 1992 18:19:17 EST
Subject: Re: A Fistful of Datas best line

>>I think this show also showcased some of Brent's acting talents.  Remember
thePeter Sellers' movies where everyone in the show is played by him?  <<
 
Pamela...That was " The Mouse That Roared". I am impressed. Even though it IS
a classic movie, I expect that  was "before" most of the users of this echo's
time!
 
Don't forget however, that James Doohan was originally hired in TOS for his
ability to do "accents" and dialects. Although he is really known only as
Scotty, his background was specializing in all sorts of accents...which is how
he got the role to begin with.
 
Now....back to Data.  I am finding that as he becomes more accostomed to human
emotions/activity he is becoming  a less dynamic character. In "Fistful" they
gave him a new twist, by making the character "act" the role of another, which
was IMHO made that episode one of the more memorable  this year. I agree also,
that hands down,  Picard's " not a very good actor" quote was  THE  best in
the episiode, and one of the best of the season. 
 
-Ira-

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From: delledg@uts.cc.wayne.edu (DeVaughn Elledge)
Subject: Re: I Borg{==}Vendetta
Organization: Wayne State University, Detroit Mich.
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 20:19:52 GMT

In article <1e87gjINN7sh@transfer.stratus.com> det@phlan.sw.stratus.com (David Toland) writes:
>In article <o1N9TB4w165w@infopls.chi.il.us> hermes@infopls.chi.il.us (Eugene Skonicki) writes:
>>
>>Vendetta was good, but it was not "I Borg"
>
>(this really doesn't belong in r.a.s.CURRENT, but since it seems to be
>stuck here:)
>
>I didn't really dislike "Vendetta", but I did feel there was a touch of
>"kitchen sink syndrome" to it.  It seemed to try too hard to tie in
>as many trek legends as it could (Doomsday machine, Tholians, Borg, ...)
>
>But maybe that's why so many out there love it...
>-- 
>det@phlan.sw.stratus.com   |  "Laddie, you'll be needin' something to wash

 I think they, HE, did a very good job of tieing everything in. I hope       
Paramount choses to use this book as at least one of the TNG movies. I got
the feeling there is going to be a TNG movie!! I hope its not a disappointment
like STI.

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From: schwartz@roke.cs.psu.edu (Scott Schwartz)
Subject: Re: "A Fistful of Datas" Comment
Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1992 18:24:46 GMT

Windsor A. Morgan <NHT@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
| I consider this high praise indeed.

I dunno.  This was, what, the 100th time the Holodeck ran amok and
almost killed a bunch of starrting characters?  Even in jest, it got
old a long time ago.
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From: ogoh@fraser.sfu.ca (Oon Goh)
Subject: Re: Fistful of Datas?...Why not, "Dirty Data"?
Keywords: who needs these?
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 20 Nov 1992 04:19:14 GMT

virgo@metter.fmpmis.metter.com (Paul Virgo) writes:


>I REALLY enjoyed "Fistful of Datas" and I thought to myself,"Since they're
>making what seems to be a homage to those Clint Eastwood spaghetti westerns,
>too bad they couldn't do an episode whereas they recreate a 'Dirty Harry'
>scenario". I could just see Data in this one:

>"This is a 0.44 caliber handgun,referred to in terminology as a Magnum. It 
>is rumored to be a weapon of extreme power and capable velocity. It is also
>rumored to be able to sever the human skull with surgical precision. Now, the
>question at hand is, do you feel that the odds are in your favor..punk?"

>Yeah,yeah, I forgot about the shots--but you get the idea. Troi or Worf could
>be one of his partners(and we ALL know what happens to Dirty Harry's partners).

>okay--well, the cocoa is settling down--ramble mode off...

>d.j. NetBoy
>-- 

>d.j. NetBoy
>Metters Industries
>Arlington, VA 22202

	I had thought of other "westerns" they could do on the holodeck.
From what Worf said at the end of the episode, the town of Deadwood may 
be seeing more of Sheriff Worf and (groan) his deputy, just as early
20th century San Francisco saw so much of Dixon Hill.
	Some other titles they can spoof - 

	"For a few Data more"
	"The Good, the Bad and the Klingon (if that's not ugly...)"
	"The quick and the Data"
	"Pale Rider" Who else? - Data.



						Gabriel.
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From: ph9991_manfr@rivers.acc.uwrf.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The Official Dorm-Rec Review of "A Fistful of Data's" (spoilers)
Date: 15 Nov 92 20:09:36 -0600
Organization: University of Wisconsin - River Falls

> 
>   Hang on  there, sweetheart, who'se reactionary now?
> 
>   Being annoyed with Troi saving Worf's ass has nothing to do with sexism
> and everything to do with Troi being spineless, jelly-fish, chocalate eclair,
> post-industrial, last-modernist, introverted, pseudo-aware, psycho-babbling,
> obvious-fact-stating, retro-asserting, window-dressing, pain-in-the-ass of
> a charachter.  She, as a character, has added nothing to the show but a 
> very tempting target for abuse.  We hate her, a lot.  
> 
> 
>   Absolutely, we were not kidding.  The last thing we want to be accused of
> is harboring the very same attributes that caused us to criticize Troi in 
> the first place.
> 
>   
>   Listen, the ST writers started this by putting various women in sexist roles.
> If they hadn't put Sirtis in a costume that invites it, we would be in no 
> position to remark at the elephantive nature of her butt.  In fact, the only
> women who they've given a reasonable strong character, Ro, is immediately
> cast in the role of the Ship Bitch, and we never see her anymore.  
> 
>   It seems to me that your accusation of judging people on the basis of their
> gender is completely unwarrented.  Mainly because I consider myself to be
> superior to ALL other human beings, not just women.  And my guess is so do you.
> 
>   I fear bad scripts more than I fear women.  And I never met a woman that 
> was a match for me, in any area.  Nope, no fear here.  Thank you for playing,
> please feel free to try again.
> 
> 
>   ##   /   ##               Progress Before Peace!               ##   /   ## 
>   ##  //   ## Matt J. Martin, Technosociology and Space Politics ##  //   ## 
>   ##   //  ##        Purdue University, West Lafayette, IN       ##   //  ##
>   ##   /   ##           myempire@mentor.cc.purdue.edu            ##   /   ##

Let's see now....
1)  These guys are raving idiots
2)  They believe themselves superior to all women
3)_ They believe themselves superior to everyone else
4)  They can't spell
5)  They seem to be affiliated with the space program
6)  They watch TNG 
7)  They're from Indiana

I think they're related to Dan Quayle....
What do you lot think?


Steven.K.Manfred
From: trw@spl1.spl.loral.com (Tim R Witort)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: change of spot.
Date: 17 Nov 92 00:32:59 GMT
Organization: Loral Software Productivity Laboratory

In article <disaacs.721947920@cunews>, disaacs@pietrzak.carleton.ca (Dave Isaacs) writes:
|> Has Spot been changing since I first saw him.  I think the first time he
|> (or she) was seen was in the episode where the ship is being hit by those
|> pockets of dimensional non-existence (or something like that).  In that
|> episode I thought he had long fluffy haired grey-brown fur.  In A Fist Full 
|> of Datas he had short light orange fur...
|> 
|> ...or am I just imagining things

   You know... I thought Spot looked different the last time
they featured him too!  I certainly don't remember him being
orange before aFFoD!

-- Tim
From: slovick@Apple.COM (Linda Slovick)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: The name of the supply ship in "Fistfull.."
Date: 19 Nov 92 07:42:43 GMT
Organization: Slovick Engineering

In message: <johnsh-151192012039@mustang.stu.rpi.edu> Hugh Johnson writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.011656.65300@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu>,
>gcs4@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (Gregory Carl Seibert) wrote: 
>>     Does anyone know the name of the supply ship in Fistfull of Data's.  It
>>     sounded like the 'Vigo'.  Wasn't that the name of the ship that was
>>     destroyed in Hero Worship?  Someone please help me.  I'm SOOOOOOOO
>>     confused.
>
>Yah, I caught that too.  The supply ship seemed to be the same one which
>was destroyed in "Hero Worship" in the Very Dark Ominous Uncharted Cluster
>(tm).  The (Vigo, Biko, whatever) must have either been refitted, replaced,
>or someone at ST:TNG Continuity is getting a stern spanking right now.

The closed captions in "Fistful of Datas" list the supply ship
as the "Biko".  Mike Brown's guide lists the ship in Hero Worsip
as "the science vessel S S Vico".

Continuity's backsides are safe for the moment :-)

Linda Slovick
slovick@apple.com                          "Tea, Earl Grey, hot"
From: morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Ptoi - Shabang's Fistful of Data rating....
Date: 16 Nov 92 15:53:45 -0600
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

Hoooooaaaaacccckkkkkk,.... Ptoi.

Sorry, I had to clear something out.  Well partners, the ol' 
Shabang-o-meter rode into town.  The town that was partched, yellow and 
dry. Drier than the desert in August, drier than my throat after a 5 hour 
lecture, drier than Gates McFadden's hair.   Oh, you get the drift.  But 
the Fistful of Datas gets a 7, amusing, some good one liners, but not what 
one would call riveting.  Smile when you say that stranger.

Next Week: Not sure, but I think it has something to do with HAL.

Later

Siobahn (Shabang) Morgan
morgans@iscsvax.uni.edu

Clint Eastwood, Brent Spiner - seperated at birth?  You be the judge.
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From: dave@admiral.uucp (Dave Litchman)
Subject: Re: Amusing Season 6 errors (None posted previously)
Organization: The Admiral's Unix System & The Grid BBS
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 02:34:06 GMT

In article <gp2001-171192015521@m248-112.bgsu.edu> gp2001@andy.bgsu.edu (Greg Pallenik) writes:
>In article <1992Nov15.105307.12408@reed.edu>, odlin@reed.edu (Iain Odlin)
>wrote:
>> 
>>   From "Rascals" (perhaps the most error-ridden episode of Trek to date): Not
>>   only does the transporter give Picard a full head of hair, but it cuts and
>>   styles it as well?  [His hair is very obviously cut even across the back --
>>   It's not so much an error as an observation]
>
>Well of course Picard has hair, he's 12!  How many bald twelve year old's
>do you know?

No, the point is, that his hair is cut and styled. Picard's DNA contains the
gene sequence for hair (and, evidently, Male Pattern Baldness) but it certainly
does not contain the sequence for "Bowl-cut and Bouffant". 
>
>> 
>>   Also from "Rascals":  We spent time looking over the initial appearance of
>>   the kids on the transporter pad in freeze-frame.  All of them are, in fact,
>>   wearing appropriately baggy clothes with one exception:  Guinan's hat becomes
>>   smaller by a considerable amount.
>
>Another legitmate mistake, although the headpiece could be elastic.  It
>shrank to fit the head of the wearer like a wool cap.
>

No! Not a mistake! More evidence that Guinan is a Timelord, and her hat is her
TARDIS! The built-in Chameleon Circuit simply shrank the apparent size of her
TARDIS so as to not appear out of place on her head!


-- 
"Dammit Jim, I'm a free man, not a number!"
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From: wmorgan@stsci.edu (Windsor A. Morgan)
Subject: Re: Fist Full of Datas question (small spoiler)
Organization: Space Telescope Science Institute
Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1992 15:04:58 GMT


>> Small spoiler...
 

 















>In article <1992Nov15.070243.6934@wuecl.wustl.edu>, msg1@cec2.wustl.edu (Michael Scott Groner) writes:
>> 	I really did enjoy this episode for its comedy, but there is one small
>> point that keeps getting at me.  Did I miss something or why did Worf not use
>> his communicator to call out for help???
 

In article <1992Nov16.192555.2121@ucbeh.san.uc.edu> cho@ucbeh.san.uc.edu writes:
>Actually, Troi did....remember?  She called for security, which is hilarious,
>because Worf IS security.

Hey, that's pretty funny.  Worf IS security?  I couldn't tell.


-- 
'Verily, there be no leader as wise as the Vision!'
                         Windsor Morgan (wmorgan@stsci.edu OR NHT@PSUVM.BITNET)
                         Space Telescope Science Institute
                         Baltimore, MD   21218
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From: flip@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Phillip D. Russell)
Subject: Re: Communicators?
Organization: Purdue University Computing Center
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 07:28:23 GMT

In article <1992Nov18.210748.11797@ucsu.Colorado.EDU> nieboer@ucsu.Colorado.EDU (Doctor Gonzo) writes:
>Maybe this has been asked and answered long ago, BUT: how could those
>damn communicators work?
>
>Let's assume Riker is contacting Geordi. Riker hits his communicator 
>and says "Riker to LaForge". So how is it, that before Riker mentions
>any name, the message is instantly relayed to Geordi and Geordi alone?
>There's no lag, at least not enough for the computer to hear "to LaForge"
>and work out who it's going to.....
>I guess what I'm saying is, unless the computer is telepathic, there's just
>no way those damn things could work, even with all that technology.

What gives you the idea that the message is "instantly" relayed?

The communicators may act as pagers that record the message and send it
to the specified person. When the reciever responds, the message is played
back and then the two are begining a two way conversation.

Flip


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Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 22:27:52 -0500 
From: "David A. Gillespie" <gayboy+@CMU.EDU>
Subject: Re: Why 30 minute show?

Wow... don't know what happened there! ;-)  We had the normal 60 minutes
of show-time (well, 47 not including the commercials).  Seems like you
missed a bit in there!  (Especially if they kept the commercials in...)

Dave

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From: S096216@UMRVMA.umr.edu
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Subject: Re: Communicators?
Date: 19 Nov 92 02:08:23 GMT
Article-I.D.: umr.1992Nov19.022148.10576
Organization: Univ of MO - Rolla

There's no lag, at least not enough for the computer to hear "to LaForge"
and work out who it's going to.....

Two extremely silly answers......

The sender is placed inside a stasis field and keep unaware how
long the message has taken to get routed to the right person.

The reciever will never really know when someone has sent him a
message until it actually gets to him/her.  The computer can take as
long as it needs to figure out everything.

IMHO
Walter T. Stephens  Grad student in Ceramic Engineering/Mud Jock
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From: steph@pegasus.cs.uiuc.edu (Dale Stephenson)
Subject: Re: ***Spoiler*** Comments on "A Fistful of Datas"
Organization: University of Illinois, Dept. of Comp. Sci., Urbana, IL
Date: Mon, 16 Nov 1992 23:53:21 GMT

In <1992Nov16.015239.2872@eng.umd.edu> wombat@eng.umd.edu (Jose Gonzalez) writes:

>***Spoilers***



>Well, *that* was certainly a lot of fun.  



[...]

>Some Random Comments:

[...]

>- Sirtis as "Counselor Durango" (-: was excellent, and as funny as Troi's
>ever been.  I wasn't too thrilled when I heard she was going to be in
>this episode, but she was a delight to watch.  Nice accent too. 

ARRRGGGGHHH!  That accent was the worst thing in the show.  I have never
heard an accent like that on any western I've ever watched.

Are there any western fans out there who liked Marina's accent?
[...]
-- 
Dale J. Stephenson |*| (steph@cs.uiuc.edu) |*| Baseball fanatic

  "It is considered good to look wise, especially when not 
   overburdened with information" -- J. Golden Kimball
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From: koshelev@ducvax.auburn.edu
Subject: Re: ST:TNG has gone down the toilet!
Organization: Auburn University, AL
Date: Thu, 19 Nov 1992 06:05:11 GMT

In article <1992Nov17.150625.5654@desire.wright.edu>, dstuart@desire.wright.edu writes:
> 	ST:TNG has finally lost all creativity.  I swear,
> all the episodes are either a holodeck adventure, the crew gets possessed,
> or the teleporter solves the problem.  And I wish they could find a new
> look for aliens other than that "cheezier than hell" energy sphere that
> floats around until it decides to possess a crew member.  And how many
> possible characters can Brent Spiner play?  Don't get me wrong, he is
> one of the best actors on the show, but pleeeeze.  Off hand I can think
> of Data, Lor, Dr. whathisface (Data's creator), various and sundry Varmits
> in "AFFOD" (if you guys know of any more post them).  AND FOR ONCE CAN THE
> WRITERS LET WORF WIN AT LEAST ONE FIGHT.  Also, how many times can Yar
> be incorprated back into the plot after she is dead?  She can hardly act
> as it is, why do they keep bringing her back? I'm finished, Flame at
> will.

As Doctor Brown would say "Impossible!"
Or Wallace Shawn might read "That's highly improbable!"
Everbody knows that TNG can't "go[] down the toilet!"
There has never been a toilet shown in Star Trek!  
:-)
From: tanski@inland.com
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Keiko/Rosiland Chao trivia ?
Date: 16 Nov 92 12:41:57 CST
Organization: Inland Steel Company; East Chicago, IN

In article <1992Nov9.112350.1@us.oracle.com>, sstephen@us.oracle.com writes:
> Quick note, while reading through List of lists for STNG and STDSN, posted by
> mholtz@sactoh0.sac.ca.us :
>
>                         [stuff deleted]
> 
> From my reference books, Rosiland Chao had major roles in "The Terry Fox Story"
> and "White Ghost" (1988, William Cat as Rambo -> turkey).  Looks like she might
> get more exposure in ST:DSN.
> 
> ================================================================================
> Scott Stephens				inet:	sstephen.us.oracle.com

Rosiland Chao won't be in the first few episodes since she just had
a kidlet (I found this out at the Dreamwerks convention in Chicago
during Majel Barrett's talk).

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From: cad3@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (CHERYL ANN DOUGHERTY)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: STNG cast on stage?
Date: 18 Nov 92 20:42:55 GMT
Organization: Lehigh University

In article <Bxw0J3.G47@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, eak56063@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (D I S I N
T E G R A T I O N) writes:
>in the chicago sunday tribune (15th nov) in the arts section on page 20 there
>is an ad for, i think, a musical with some of the cast in it. here's what it
>says:
>
>Live on stage * One show only
>
>"Every Good Boy Deserves Favor"
>a play for actors and orchestra
>created by: tom stoppard
>           andre previn
>directed by: patrick stewart
>(picture of frakes, spiner, and stewart)
>
>tickets on sale sunday 10am!
>
>cast:
>johnathan frakes    brent spiner    patrick stewart   gates mcfadden
>           colm meaney      john christian graas
>
>
>and performing on stage
>      60 piece symphony orchestra
>
>      conducted by michael lankester
>
>"a firest rate piece of serious drama" -variety
>"hilarious, poignant and powerful" -LA times
>
>Chicago theatre * April 10
>
>executive producers: patrick stewart and kate elliot
>represented by space agency concerts and theatricals
>
>*****
>does this sound familiar to anyone?
>any comments? ideas? i think, if it were a show/musical, it would be
>a great experience to see....
>
>--
>| so when the hurting starts           |      you dont have to give in...     |
>| and when the nightmares begin        |            NEVER GIVE IN             |
>| remember you can fill up the sky     |                                      |
>| you don't have to give in...         |   theCURE@uiuc.edu             eric  |
>

Well, Spiner and Frakes both have Broadway musical experience.  I think that a
Tom Stoppard musical/comedy with this cast might be interesting.
From: Andra Barrow <andra@franklin.bchs.uh.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.startrek.current
Subject: Re: Beards vs. Make-up
Date: 23 Nov 1992 19:26:42 GMT
Organization: University of Houston
NNTP-Posting-Host: franklin.bchs.uh.edu

>but I'd be willing to bet that there are a lot more men who don't like   
>makeup than there are women who don't like beards... ;)

My fiance gets on an "I wanna grow a beard" kick about once every year and a  
half or so (Usually right around the Renaissance Festival ;)). I won't let him  
grow one and don't like the things for one simple, very non-pychological  
reason...beard burns are _no_ fun at all, especially on...never mind. ;))

Andra Barrow
andra@transposon.bchs.uh.edu

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