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From: singh@r-node.gts.org (Rajendra Singh)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: SHO Engine for Probe GT - Why Not?
Date: 6 Sep 92 23:45:44 GMT
Organization: Public Access UNIX Information System

In article <126@io.trident.datasys.swri.edu> johns@trident.datasys.swri.edu (Stephen Johns) writes:
>In article <1992Sep4.132022.360@engage.pko.dec.com> sontakke@helix.enet.dec.com (Vikas Sontakke) writes:
>>
>>It will be probably faster than the Mustang 5.0, and there is absolutely no way
>>in the hell Ford will allow that.
>
>  Like Ford would ever have to worry about that.  The 5.0 engine can easily
>  be upgraded to about any level of performance anyone's twisted mind can
>  conceive.  I saw some article in my brothers Super Ford magazine where some
>  guy had something like 960 bhp!

Wasn't the original purpose of the Probe GT (when it was first introduced)
to be a replacement for the Mustang?  I heard that the reason the Mustang
wasn't dropped, post Probe intro., was that the Mustang out-sold the Probe,
hence Ford couldn't justify dropping the Mustang.

Don't you think that if the Probe GT's sales are incredibly more than the
Mustang's, Ford will consider such a move?
-- 
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is greater than 100 lines (or 15K), then please send your response to:
                    tcomsing@chasm.scar.utoronto.ca
From: boris@ulysses.att.com (Boris Altman)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: slick 50
Keywords: oil, slick
Date: 14 Sep 92 12:26:28 GMT

Hi,

I am not into cars so, you can consider me a naiive user.
I recently heard about a product called SLICK 50. My mechanic
says that this is great thing. So, the questions for the net.experts

1. Does it really work?
2. How do I find out any unbiased info on this product?
3. Can it do any harm?
4. Should I 'fix' it if it ain't broken?

In case it matters I have 89 Celica(30k miles) and 92 Camry (4K miles).
Sorry, if this subject has been discussed recently.
I am not following this group, so please e-mail you responses.
I can post the summary if people are interested.
Thanks for your help.

					Boris
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: johnn@eskimo.celestial.com (John Navitsky)
Subject: Re: removing bumper stickers
Organization: =>ESKIMO NORTH (206) 367-3837 SEATTLE, WA.<=
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 18:29:16 GMT

In article <BuBKFB.9vr@news.cso.uiuc.edu> tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan) writes:
>
>In article <1992Sep9.142521.25052@dsd.es.com> pmartz@dsd.es.com (Paul Martz) writes:
>>
>>To remove these bumper stickers, a friend of mine has suggested
>>repeated scrubbings with Dawn dishwashing liquid. Does anyone else
>>have any experience in this department? Care to share your methods and
>>results? Thanks for any suggestions...
>
>A good long soak in peanut oil (a good source of which is ordinary peanut
>butter) does wonders for removing stubborn stickers of many different
>types. I regularly use peanut oil to remove old label stickers from
>videotapes and diskettes. I don't think it'll harm your car's paint (at
>least, it will probably harm it less than those bumper stickers the
>previous owner stuck onto the paint :-(

Acitone (sp) works very well on removing stickers and labels.  You need to be
very careful with paint however since it can take off lots of stuff.  It 
did not remove any paint on my car, however it can on some.  Also, if you go
to a computer store they have "label remover" which also works.  The acitone
may also damage rubber.  
 
Good luck.
 
 -john

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From: sbrenner@cbnewsb.cb.att.com (scott.d.brenner)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Unsafe Safety Belts - CBS 'Street Stories' Report
Date: 11 Sep 92 16:33:20 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: AT&T

Did anyone else see the report on safety belts on 'Street Stories'
last night (CBS, 9PM)?

Apparently, a certain type of safety belt buckle used during the past
10 years or so may have a fatal design flaw.  I think the only buckle
that was discussed was the kind with the release button in the middle
of the buckle.  They showed how easy the buckle released when hit with
something or even when slapped across someone's hip.  The claim was
that in certain kinds of accidents, enough force exists in the right
place to cause the buckle to release.  Several serious injuries and
at least one death is blamed on this problem.

Now, how much validity is there in this report, and how do I tell if
_my_ safety belts are prone to this kind of failure.  If I have 'bad'
buckles, is there anything I can do?

I'm interested in hearing people's opinions on this matter.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Scott D. Brenner
AT&T Consumer Communications Services
Basking Ridge, NJ
scott@cimu03.att.com  -or-  sbrenner@attmail.com
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Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: barry@geovision.gvc.com (Barry Comer)
Subject: Re: I HATE SHABBY MECHANICS
Organization: Not officially GeoVision Systems Inc., Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 16:03:01 GMT

In <1992Sep10.153646.4938@ecl.psu.edu> jsb@ecl.psu.edu writes:

>I don't have anything against dealer machanics PERSONALLY. It's
>the whole bullshit auto maintainence system that really sucks.
>I can't think of any other large group of "highly-trained professionals"
>that is enshrouded by such a huge cloud of horseshit.

	The above statement nails it right on the head.  I remember all
	the manager bullshit from when I was in the auto industry.  
	They would send us on courses only after several customers had
	complained about related problems not being fixed properly
	the first time.  It is because of this type of thing that I 
	just gave up the whole thing...

$0.03 (inflation)
Barry
From: jongsma@esseye.si.com (Ken Jongsma)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: GMs plan: New Credit Card (MC, then possibly VISA)
Date: 11 Sep 92 12:44:35 GMT
Reply-To: jongsma@benzie.si.com
Distribution: usa
Organization: Smiths Industries

In <1992Sep11.033813.11459%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu> mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike Suter) writes:


>Yeah, but is the $3500 off of list (which I suspect), or after your best
>deal?

Supposedly off your best deal...


-- 
Ken Jongsma                                          ken@wybbs.mi.org
Smiths Industries                               jongsma@benzie.si.com
Grand Rapids, Michigan                      73115.1041@compuserve.com
From: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov (JOSEPH T CHEW)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Buying an old Police car
Date: 14 Sep 92 16:04:10 GMT
Organization: Lawrence Berkeley Laboratory - Berkeley, CA, USA
Reply-To: jtchew@csa3.lbl.gov
NNTP-Posting-Host: 128.3.254.198
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.3-4   

I'm told that if you want to do this, you should get a surplus
Highway Patrol (aka State Police, State Troopers) car, not a
city fuzz bucket.  The latter is a lot like buying a used taxicab,
except that more people have thrown up in the back seat. Trooper
cars, generally speaking, lead a much gentler life inside and out.

I'm also told that the pursuit Mustangs get used much more, ah,
enthusiastically than the big sedans, thus can be expected to be
wearier at the typical 60 000 - 80 000 mile fleet turnover point.

Two data points, probably not worth the connect time you spent...

--Joe
"Just another personal opinion from the People's Republic of Berkeley"
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: sgc1@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (scott.g.crawford)
Subject: After market merchandise catalog sought for Caravan/Voyager
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Fri, 11 Sep 1992 18:01:31 GMT
Summary: Looking for Caravan/Voyager Catalog


In about 3 hours I will be picking up my new 92
Plymouth Voyager SE. My question is, has anyone
ever come across a merchandise catalog of after
market products for thie vehicle, or for that
matter, mini-vans in general. If anyone has, please
email the catalog name, phone number, and/or
address if possible.

Thanks in advance.

Scott Crawford
AT&T Bell Labs
Team SABLIME
908-580-5324
att!mozart!scott
From: jimf@centerline.com (Jim Frost)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: LIDAR Stealth
Date: 12 Sep 1992 20:06:39 GMT
Organization: CenterLine Software, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: 140.239.3.202

khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes:
>Opinions?

If you mount IR-absorbing plastic in a headlight or taillight
structure and you better watch out for heat -- incandescent lamps tend
to be pretty good IR-producers and the IR the plastic absorbs is going
to have to be radiated somehow.

jim frost
jimf@centerline.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu (Mike Suter)
Subject: Re: ARMOR ALL VS. STP
Organization: BITS, St. Louis, MO
Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1992 21:22:38 GMT

> As we all know, Armor All dries the hell out of vinyl, rubber,
>plastics, etc because of the formaldehyles and the other chemicals in
>it.  So what about STP's Son of a Gun protecant.  Does STP do the same
>damage as Armor All.  And are there any other good stuff to use that are
>reasonably priced??  I've seen stuff like Back Magic and other stuff
>that costs more, but wonder if they are any better than Armor All.


Black Magic is a completely different product.  It is silicone
based, rather than water based like Armor All.  It will protect
MUCH longer, and shouldn't dry out the surface.  By the way,
a little goes a long way when it comes to Black Magic, so a bottle
of that will last much longer than a similar size bottle of AA.

If what you are treating is black, you may also want to look 
at Black Chrome.

Mike
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mike%jim.uucp@wupost.wustl.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: elcc1@lut.ac.uk (C Callender)
Subject: Does anybody have any advice about a Jaguar XJS
Organization: Loughborough University, UK.
Date: Mon, 14 Sep 92 16:36:49 GMT

I'm finally about to take the plunge and buy my dream car. I was
wondering if anybody out there has any advice for me. I'm planning to
buy a Jaguar XJS (well, my real dream car is an E-type but I don't
think I can quite run to that!). Having looked around, I think that I
could afford a 1983-84 XJS.  The recession in the UK appears to have hit
big thirsty car values pretty hard. Insurance and fuel costs probably mean
that I wouldn't consider a 5.3 litre V12, so (unfortunately), I will only
be looking at the 3.6 litre XJS's. My personal preferance would be to
go for a manual gearbox (more fun to drive, in my opinion!), but there
seem to be a lot more auto ones than manual around.

I have wanted a Jag for years and I believe that now is the right time
to buy one if I'm ever going to. If I leave it for too many years more
I could easily have commitments and resposibilities which would preclude
me from owning an elderly, unreliable and expensive car.

I realise that its probably going to cost me lots of money to keep the thing
on the road :-( and that its going to be a hobby as much (more than?) as a means
of transport. But, as I say, its my dream car and if I'm going to make my
dream happen then there is no time like now.

Does anybody have any advice about buying one?(other than "Don't do it!",
although advice like "Don't get a Jag, get xxx instead" would be considered)
Is there anything special that I should look out for? Where is the
best place to look for one? And once I get it, does anybody have any
tips about looking after it. Like where I can get cheap parts for it,
what I should be careful to watch out for, and so on...

Thanks,

Chris
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From: foggh@sargon.crd.ge.com (H.W. Fogg)
Newsgroups: osu.for-sale,rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
Subject: Re: I NEED 2nd CAR..$2-300..ADVICE?..SELLER??
Date: 9 Sep 92 14:44:15 GMT
Reply-To: foggh@sargon.crd.ge.com (H.W. Fogg)
Distribution: na
Organization: GE Corporate R&D Center

The cars in this price range that I have had the best luck with are
Datsun B210's.
I have had 3 and never spent much on maintainance for any of them.
(Although the clutch
plates seem to need to be replaced between 70k and 90k miles).
The last one I bought was a '73 (???) and I spent $50.00 for it. I
didn't do anything to it
and it ran for about 6 months before I junked it. (It needed brakes and
a new clutch plate).
But, hey... $50.00 ... I spend more than that on a pair of pants.

When I worked in California, my boss, who was a car enthusiast, used to
refer to the
Datsun B210 as the "Atomic cockroach". It may not be pretty and it may
not have much
performance but from my experience the engine is practically impossible
to kill.

(Note: I also owned an old Ford Escort '83 and had good luck with it ...
but it cost me $800.00)

[Usual disclaimers apply...]
From: enns@waterloo.hp.com (Roger Enns)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 78-82 RX7, Datsun 280, Celica GTS? what should i get?
Date: 11 Sep 92 11:52:25 GMT
Organization: HP Panacom Div Waterloo ON Canada
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1.3 PL5

IMHO, the best option is the RX7.  The first generation cars
can't be beat for cheap performance.  If you are not terribly
concerned about 0-60 times, then you don't even have to modify
engine.  Handling is respectible in stock condition, but can
easily be improved through cheap mods.

--
Roger Enns (enns@waterloo.hp.com) Panacom Automation Division, HP
C-GIIV Dragonfly, 1979 RX7 13B, 1985 Colt, 1984 Interceptor 500
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: rdb1@cbnewsj.cb.att.com (ronald.j.deblock..jr)
Subject: Re: front disc brake question
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 10 Sep 1992 17:36:49 GMT

In article <24829@oasys.dt.navy.mil> bense@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Ronald Bense) writes:
>Generally brakes need servicing (at least on
>every car I've owned, 6) around 25-30k miles. There is no such thing
>as lifetime pads.

I've never had brake pads last LESS than 65K miles.  That's all highway 
mileage, of course.

My current car (1990 Mazda 626) has 79,500 miles on the original brake pads.
I measured them last Saturday.  The inside pads are 4mm thick, minimum 
is 2mm (from the shop manual).  I don't know what the measurement is for new
pads.

Question: The outside pads are about twice as thick as the inside ones.  When
new, they were the same.  Why do the inside pads wear faster?

-- 
Ron DeBlock  rdb1@cbnewsj.att.com  (that's a number 1 in rdb1, not letter l)
AT&T Bell Labs   Somerset, NJ  USA
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: george@unixg.ubc.ca (George Chow)
Subject: Re: Fog out of A/C Ducts
Organization: University of British Columbia, Vancouver, B.C., Canada
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 18:25:23 GMT

In article <92252.215420U53519@uicvm.uic.edu> <U53519@uicvm.uic.edu> writes:
>The Air Conditioning ducts on my Infiniti G20 blow a white, mist-like fog
>when the air has been on for a while.  No odor.  The flow seems inter-
>mittent, as if a result of the compressor cycling on/off.  Any ideas
>on what's going on?  Is it Freon, and am I about to die from inhaling it?

I rented a Sentra two summers ago to go visit the States and it did the
same thing. I'm still here... :)

>Thanks!
>
>-- Ray Sparrowe

George
Newsgroups: rec.autos,misc.consumers
From: thorn@wam.umd.edu (Greg Thornwall)
Subject: GM pickups called a fire risk
Organization: Workstations at Maryland, University of Maryland, College Park
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Sep 1992 15:29:34 GMT





In USA Today, I read that  GM pickup trucks made between 1973 and 
1987 have caused 10 times more fatalities than the Ford Pinto. A
consumer groups wants the federal government to recall 5 million GM
trucks (fatalities during 73-87 are estimated at 300). The pickup's
gas tank is susceptible to rupturing during side impacts because it
is mounted outside the frame of the truck.

--Greg

Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: wwein@scott.skidmore.edu (warren wein)
Subject: Re: ARMOR ALL VS. STP
Organization: Skidmore College, Saratoga Springs NY
Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1992 17:51:27 GMT


  	i've used Black Magic extensively on my Eclipse.   It leaves a
shiny coating and sometimes my slides off the door panel where I
applied it.  I have noticed no ill affects from it.  The shine dulls
after awhile but the treated areas still look great.
	Has anyone compared NO Touch to Tire Foam.  I think that the
Tire Foam works better, but does it have the same drying affect as
regular Armor All?

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Warren Wein

'83 Audi 5000s: sport sedan from hell!!!
'86 Toyota MR2: a real sports car, fun! fun! and more FUN!
'90 Mitsubishi Eclipse GSX: "Atomic M&M"  Is this thing glued to the
                                          road? 	

" Insurance in Brooklyn costs how much ?! "

e-mail: wwein@skidmore.edu
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From: tmkk@uiuc.edu (Khan)
Subject: Re: Bugs (and Bras)
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana
Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1992 16:27:36 GMT


In article <1992Sep8.141539.1@bronco.fnal.gov> colombo@bronco.fnal.gov writes:
>In article <Bu61y4.Hr7@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, khan@mrcnext.cso.uiuc.edu (Scott Coleman) writes:
>> 
>> My car is a very bright shade of red (Arrest-Me Red ;-) and for some reason
>> it attracts bugs even when standing still (I'm not kidding - I parked the
>> car yesterday afternoon planning to do some routine maintenance, and between
>> the time I had parked it and the time I got out to go open the hood, two
>> bees had appeared out of nowhere are were checking out the front end. Within
>> a couple minutes, there were at least half a dozen of the little buzzers
>> flitting around. Made working in the engine bay an interesting experience,
>> since they kept buzzing my head ;-/ )
>
>The best that I can figure is that the bees are attracted to the smells
>(pollen?) that you accumulate on your car while driving, not the color.
>(Mine is white.)

I thought at first that it might be all the dead bugs on the front end,
so I took the car over to the car wash and got rid of all the bug juice.
When I came back, the bees reappeared out of nowhere, just as before. I
suppose it could still be scent that attracts them, but I never noticed
bees flitting around my old car, which was a dull brown color.

>I spray the front with Raid before I open the hood.

Is that safe for your paint?
From: c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com (Spiros Triantafyllopoulos)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Why a Mercedes Benz 600SEL?
Date: 9 Sep 92 13:27:32 GMT
Organization: Delco Electronics Corp.

In article <CARL.92Sep8173044@atlantis.Cayman.COM> carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl) writes:
>I take 100% exception to that statement.  I would much rather be in a
>600SEL during a real bad accident than a Ford Tempo (or any other much
>smaller car for that matter).

True. But you have to balance the emotional damage done to the Benz
owner when he/she finds out (after being pulled out of the wreck) that
his 'baby' was damaged with the physical damage that would result if
he/she weren't driving the Benz after all...

:-)

Spiros



-- 
Spiros Triantafyllopoulos                    c23st@kocrsv01.delcoelect.com
Software Technology, Delco Electronics       striantafyll@kosds1.gm.hac.com
GM Hughes Electronics, Kokomo, IN 46904      [A Different Kind of Disclaimer]
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jmc@SAIL.Stanford.EDU (John McCarthy)
Subject: Re: Carburetors, gasoline, and why I don't recycle
Followup-To: rec.autos
Reply-To: jmc@cs.Stanford.EDU
Organization: Computer Science Department, Stanford University
	<1992Sep2.234619.4253@ringer.cs.utsa.edu>
	<1992Sep4.130758.12545@alw.nih.gov> <79210@ut-emx.uucp>
Date: 5 Sep 92 21:23:10

I noticed in an Edmonton, Alberta, Canada parking garage a sign
banning natural gas powered vehicles.  Why is this?
--
John McCarthy, Computer Science Department, Stanford, CA 94305
*
He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.
From: ebuhwe@ebu.ericsson.se
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Help solve electrical problem in my car !!!!
Date: 8 Sep 92 22:21:21 GMT
Reply-To: ebuhwe@ebu.ericsson.se
Organization: Ericsson Network Systems, Richardson TX

In article 715983340@Ra.MsState.Edu, mac1@Ra.MsState.Edu (Mubashir Cheema) writes:
>
>
> Hello World,
>	     I have a Nissan 2000SX that wouldn't start due to an electrical
> failure. All the electrical systems seem to work fine in the beginning.
> Battery is fine too. As long as the ignition is in 'ON' position everything
> is fine. But as soon as I turn the key to crank it up everything goes down
> and comes back after few minutes. 
>
> There is no sound of ANYTHING. It just dies.
>
>
> Maybe the solution is too obvious. A missing wire maybe ?  Any ideas ?
> Any help will be greatly appreciated 

It could be as simple as oxide build-up on your battery. Clean both
connectors, add a little ptroleum jelly (Vaseline) and try again. 

---
Per Harwe       	 	       | Internet: ebuhwe@ebu.ericsson.se
Ericsson Business Communications, Inc. | UUCP:   uunet!ericsson.com!ebuhwe
Anaheim, CA.			       |
The opinions are my own, and do not necessarily reflect those of my employer.
From: mdresser@pbs.org (Melanie Dresser)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Honda Civic Bashing continues...
Date: 8 Sep 92 13:06:43 EDT
Organization: PBS:Public Broadcasting Service, Alexandria, VA

In article <1992Sep1.205944.4623@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu>, jnielsen@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (John F Nielsen) writes:
> In article <7740214@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM> rjs@hpfcso.FC.HP.COM (Bob Schneider) writes:
>>mikeq@aspen.CNA.TEK.COM (Mike Quigley) writes:
>>
>>>I have a VX that gets an honest 55 mpg and cost me less than 9 k (through
>>>an auto broker). Top that, Detroit!
>>>
>>>Mike
>> 
>>	The Geo Metro XFI is still the winner in the highest EPA city and
>>	highway MPG figures. It is higher than the VX. Since Geo is sold
>>	by GM, in a sense, Detroit did "top that" and has for several
>>	years.
> 

I'd like to point out that
the Honda CRX HF was out for several years with a high EPA rating
(50/56)  before the wimpy Geo Metro.
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