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From: 6500ljn@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu (Leonard Nevarez)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Glass Eye anyone?
Date: 12 Oct 92 22:42:42 GMT

In article <1992Oct9.210800.14054@cs.tulane.edu> tceh000@convex1.tcs.tulane.edu (eugene hopstetter) writes:

>Anybody out there into Glass Eye? I saw them a coupla times and
>put them up a coupla weeks ago, and am willing to talk about their live
>show/new music if anybody wants to e-mail me about it.

Yeah, they're a great band, but I haven't heard anything from them since
1990, when they played at the Whiskey in Los Angeles after they released
"Hello Young Lovers" (1989).  Do they have anything new out?  Are they
still on BarNone Records?  I haven't seen anything on that label since
its distributor, Restless Records, disassociated itself from the now
bankrupt Enigma Records.

The last I have seen of Glass Eye are the bios on Kathy, Sheila and
Scott in the "Slacker" book (St. Martin's), which I recommend to
anyone who liked that movie.  Eugene, post some info on their 
recent live shows!

Leonard Nevarez
Santa Barbara, CA
6500ljn@ucsbuxa.ucsb.edu

















Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: rpointe@hubcap.clemson.edu (Robey Pointer)
Subject: Re: XTC <--- Recommendations?
Organization: Clemson University
Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1992 04:26:53 GMT

dchou@husc8.harvard.edu (David Chou) writes:

>buzzsaw@bluemoon.rn.com (Patrick Buzby) writes:

>>  If this is an intelligent group of people, asking for XTC fans here 
>>should be like asking for James Brown fans on the funk newsgroup.  They 
>>are the best "alternative" group ever, and one of the best in all of rock 
>>music.  English Settlement is my favorite album of theirs, but Skylarking, 
>>Mummer, and Drums And Wires are all fighting fiercely for second place.

>I only have Lemon & Oranges and The Black Sea, the latter which I find
>to be very good.  I also heard however, that NonSuch isn't all that hot...
>However, I was wondering if anyone on the net could recommend to me
>some other good XTC albums.  Thanks.

WHITE MUSIC - very weird!  i like it a lot, atonal & jerky
GO 2 - similar, with a slight pop edge
DRUMS AND WIRES - one of the best ones - broke the xtc mold
BLACK SEA - down to the basics, simple songs that are quite nice
MUMMER - freaky, but not like White Music - still good
ENGLISH SETTLEMENT - very long & wonderful
SKYLARKING - their best album ever
ORANGES & LEMONS - gets a bad rap, it's really very good
RAG AND BONE BUFFET - not very accessable except for a few songs, but great
NONSUCH - perhaps better than O&L at points

(I may have inadvertantly left some off.  Sorry.)

since you have L&O and BlackSea, I'd suggest Skylarking immediately.

-- 
Robey Pointer               | "...and that's the way Jesus pays his bills."
rpointe@hubcap.clemson.edu  |  -Rev. Robert Tilton


From: kingsley@hpwrce.mayfield.hp.com (Kingsley Morse)
Date: Wed, 7 Oct 1992 23:36:44 GMT
Subject: Please Help
Organization: HP Western Response Center
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative

              Please answer these 9 questions and return.

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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From:  (J Klein)
Subject: Re: CeremonyG500
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Public Macs, Academic Computing, Yale University
Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1992 04:12:05 GMT

> Considering Galaxie 500 is a very guitar cenetered band
> and ceremony is basically techno., its something that is
> very interesting to listen to.  I would say that G-500's
> version is even MORE emotional than the original

Ceremony, at least the common version on Substance, is not at all techno. 
I don't believe there are any synthesisers in the song at all.  It is a
brilliant song, tho'.
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: lazlo@triton.unm.edu (Lazlo Nibble)
Subject: Re: Have the Orb used Floyd samples ?
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 92 04:10:15 GMT
Organization: None for me, thanks . . . I'm driving.
Distribution: usa

pwh@bradley.bradley.edu (Pete Hartman) writes:

> One of the more interesting Floyd samples I've heard was in "Expander"
> by the future sound of london.  They sample the intro to Time under
> their own music.  It's pretty subtle, and rather cool. 

Ditto for the sample from Floyd's "Time" sample on the Twitch remix of
"Time" (different  song) by The Wolfgang Press.  It's subtle and very
atmospheric.  Nice. 

--
Lazlo (lazlo@triton.unm.edu)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From:  (J Klein)
Subject: 3Ds - Q?
Followup-To: alt.music.alternative
Organization: Public Macs, Academic Computing, Yale University
Date: Fri, 9 Oct 1992 18:45:24 GMT

I've heard the 3Ds and really like the sound.  Any suggestions on which
CD(s) to buy first?  Which not to buy?
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: chrisl@county.lmt.mn.org (Chris Laurel)
Subject: New Brendan Perry--when?
Organization: LaserMaster R&D, Minneapolis, MN  USA
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 15:28:30 GMT

I heard recently that Brendan Perry of Dead Can Dance was releasing a solo 
album.  Does anyone have a tentative release date for this album?  Or what 
will be on it?  I'd love to see some of the pieces performed on the last 
Dead Can Dance tour make it on to CD . . .

--Chris Laurel
chrisl@county.lmt.mn.org
laurel@stolaf.edu
From: gjjansen@idca.tds.PHILIPS.nl (gerard jansen)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: The Pachinco Fake???
Date: 14 Oct 92 08:22:59 GMT
Organization: Digital Equipment Enterprise bv, Apeldoorn, The Netherlands

Hi there everyone,

I'm looking for information on a group called "the Pachinco Fake" (not sure
if spelling is correct?).
I know of one song title "Simple Mind"; the music is an electrical guitar only
with some drums and synthesizer at the end and a dark voice (somewhat simular
to Lou Reed?).
I would be very pleased if someone could provide me with a discography (CD, LP)
and the ordering numbers and label the group is on.

Thanks,
       Gerard
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From: v462etnn@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (David L Anderson)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Dave Kendall
Date: 8 Oct 92 17:29:00 GMT
Organization: University at Buffalo
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.41

In article <1992Oct8.160057.7509@u.washington.edu>, dube@carson.u.washington.edu (Ric Dube) writes...
><JMC159@psuvm.psu.edu> writes:
> 
>>What do you mean?!!!!!!!!  How could you start a Dave Kendall hate group?!!!!!!
>>I plan on making Dave my husband someday and you dorks want to start a hate
>>club?!!!   I'm hurt!!
> 
> 
Well, I have it on good authority (ie. an attendee) that when
Dave Kendall introduced the Swans at the Limelight (in NYC),
he was the object of ridicule (as well as projectiles).

So, perhaps the hate group preceeds a.m.a....

David "Love will save you, but it won't save me" Anderson
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: johnerik@ifi.uio.no (John-Erik Bye Johansen)
Subject: Re: Inspiral Carpets
Organization: Dept. of Informatics, University of Oslo, Norway
Date: Fri, 16 Oct 1992 10:30:25 GMT
Originator: johnerik@skuta.ifi.uio.no



> Which is the song which has the line "You should learn to walk/should
> learn to walk before you crawl..."
> and which album is it on?
> -- 
>              --      Ishir Bhan (ibhan@husc.harvard.edu)      --

She Comes In The Fall from Life. If you like this one you'll love the album!


-- 
johnerik@ifi.uio.no  | 
John-Erik Johansen   | Mr Paranoia - Get him a lawyer!
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From: skmurphy@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Sean Keric Murphy)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Medicine and Mecca Normal
Date: 16 Oct 92 18:26:30 GMT
Organization: Princeton University
Originator: news@nimaster

In article <921015.041013-EST@cs.uri.edu> reynhout@cs.uri.edu (Andrew Reynhout) writes:
(info on Medicine deleted) 
>   Other non-4AD stuff.  Mecca Normal.  This band has been around for quite
>some time, but is only now beginning to penetrate the oustide-of-Boston
>awareness, with tracks on the _Kill_Rock_Stars_, _Throw-The_Yoyo_Studio_Comp_,
>and _International_Pop_Underground_ compilations.  They have a couple of
>7"s out as well.  Check them out, they're fantastic.  They have a full-length
>album coming out on K within a month or so.  I'm not sure how many of the 7"s,
>and compilation tracks will be on the album.  Look for it.  I can't wait.
>In case you can't tell, I'm really excited about this band.
>
>   Whatever happened to alt.music.indie-pop??
>
>   Andrew

What's this "outside of Boston" remark?  Mecca Normal is from Vancouver,
BC.  Dovetail (the album referred to above) is out now, and it rules.
It's also their 4th LP, third on K.  The first one, along with one
single, came out on their own label in Canada, Smarten Up.  This first
LP is damn near impossible to find, as only 1000 or so were pressed.
They've done 3 entries in K's International Pop Underground series of
singles (volumes 4, 11, and 27), along with a single on Harriet Records
and a split single with Kreviss on Sub Pop (singles-club deal this
summer).  The other two LPs, "Calico Kills The Cat" and "Water Cuts My
Hands" are available from K, and also are placed together on one CD,
jointly released by Matador and K.  And then there's Dovetail, the new
one, on LP and CD from K.  Buy it ALL.  Mecca Normal is fuckin' amazing.
Jean Smith's vocals are indescribeble and incomparable.  Some have
compared PJ Harvey to Mecca Normal, and that's not a bad place to start,
although the minimalist approach of MN (one guitar, one singer for most
songs) will take some getting used to.  Also, David and Jean used to be
in a band called Bright Like Ice, who put out a single on Smarten Up.
All of this is excellent.  And if you have the chance, see them live.
It's a mind-opening experience.

And alt.music.indie-pop became the Indie-List, a nice little mailing
list not exclusively limited to pop, but just independent music.  Write
to houk@athena.cs.uga.edu (Joshua Houk) or cc647@cleveland.freenet.edu
(Mark Cornick) for more info.  

Sean Murphy
skmurphy@phoenix.princeton.edu
NJ Bureau Chief for the amazing Indie-List

Blue takes yellow every time,
Throw silver, throw gold.
		- Mecca Normal
From: bryan@wupost.wustl.edu (bryan o'connor)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: The Might Be Giants
Date: 8 Oct 1992 00:18:58 -0500
Organization: Washington University in Saint Louis, MO USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: fegmania.wustl.edu
Keywords: They Might Be Giants


bassler@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (bassler ryan p) writes:
>Alternatively, one of the guys in the crowd yelled 'Fuck you" at which
>Flansburgh replied "no, fuck you.)  Have we lost these guys?  Are they 

klf@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Brian Mark Bishop) writes:
> Could it possibly be that the fans were assholes? I saw TMBG a few nights
> ago, and Flansburgh was not like anything you describe. The Johns were
> very polite to the crowd, and talked to us often. 
> 
> In the paper the next day, Flansburgh said the crowd was excellent, one
> of the best he had played for.

I saw them in Saint Louis.  John #2 (the guitar one) had the flu.  The place was
very crowded.  The "under 21" section was the dance floor.  The "over 21" section
was the tables, etc, behind them.  I was in the front of the "over 21" section.

The "under 21" crowd were throwing things, swaying, and doing the general "pit"
kind of things.  John #2 asked that they not do that because it detracts from those
who don't want to.  Somebody throw something at him.  He said "if you want to see
the show end soon, just keep chucking shit on the stage."  Somebody said "fuck you".
He said "fuck you too".  And that was it.

About the bass player.. yeah, he seemed very *enthusiastic* in playing style, but
quite *out of it* in personality/stage presence.

Got to love it when one of you favorite bands closes with a killer song from the 70s 
that most of the "under 21's" haven't heard of.

The female singer of the opening band (local?) made the comment to the "under 21"
crowd: "didn't I babysit you in '83?"  I laughed..

Otherwise...  I enjoyed it.  (Not as good as Tori 4 nights later, though)

-- 
Bryan D. O'Connor                    | "what scares you most
Computer Science *soon-to-be* grad   |  will set you free"
Office of the Network Coordinator    |  is what the Angel said to me...
Washington University in Saint Louis |              --Soft Boys
From: larson9627@iscsvax.uni.edu
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: TMBG
Date: 16 Oct 92 09:52:56 -0500
Organization: University of Northern Iowa

People of the net:

if anyone has any information on "They Might Be Giants" touring in Iowa, would
you please reply via email.  I would be ever so thankful.

larson9627@iscsvax.uni.edu
From: heilmayr@jaffna.berkeley.edu (Stephan Heilmayr)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Camper van Beethoven spinoffs
Date: 8 Oct 1992 09:12:04 GMT
Organization: U.C. Berkeley Logic Group
NNTP-Posting-Host: jaffna.berkeley.edu
Keywords: Camper van Beethoven, Crackers, Monks of Doom


Everyone seems to be forgetting the most important Camper:
Chris Molla
He played some guitar and stuff on the first 3 1/2 Camper albums.
But mostly, he supplied the most important ingredient in the
CVB mix: _slack_.  Think about it.  When did Camper start losing
their sense of slack?  When did they start their slide downhill
towards the inevitable breakup?  It was when they kicked out Chris
Molla and signed up with Virgin Records.

By the way, does anyone know what Chris Molla is up to these days?


Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
From: pauls@tellabs.com (Paul Silver)
Subject: Re: The failed promise of CD (part n of many)
Organization: Tellabs, Lisle,IL
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 17:27:36 GMT

In article <39265@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> sbranson@sdcc13.ucsd.edu (Tigger) writes:
>In article <1992Sep27.185909.10692@ultb.isc.rit.edu> smb3565@ritvax.isc.rit.edu writes:
>>Would someone mind explaining 4AD, DDD, AAD please.  Thanks
>
>3. analog-analog-digital
>2. digital-digital-digital
>1. record company based in England that released such notables as
>the Pixies, Dead Can Dance, Cocteau Twins, Pale Saints etc etc....
>

*-------*

Or, to be more helpful, the letters on the CD (AAD, DDD, ADD, etc) indicate
how it was recorded, mastered, and the media it is on.

The first letter is how it was recorded, A for analog, D for digital.
The second letter is how it was mastered, A for analog, D for digital.
The third letter will always be a D on the CD, since it is a digital medium.

-- 
   "Life is inhuman when you are too old to be young." -Bill Nelson
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From: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Rigging the Charts
Date: 13 Oct 1992 04:58:28 GMT
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Reply-To: cc647@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Cornick)
NNTP-Posting-Host: hela.ins.cwru.edu


In a previous article, pet@mullian.ee.mu.OZ.AU (paul eng-yi tan) says:

>It seems that, after the introduction of computerized anti-fraud recording
>systems for sales in the US, large discrepancies in the old system were
>exposed. The week that the computers were introduced produced a chart 
>substantially different from the week before. It was found that in actual
>fact, alternative, country, and other non-mainstream artists sold much more
>that they were given credit for in previous charts. IMHO this possibly
>contributed to the massive popularity of alternative bands like RHCP and
>Nirvana. That's just my thought. Prior to the computerized system, these
>bands may have been selling lots of records, but were not accorded the
>chart positions they deserved.

Just one thought: this system did not, by any means, eliminate fraud.
Records can be, and are, scanned more than once through the SoundScan
chart-tallying machines. Not to accuse any band or anything, but it does
still happen.

-- 
Mark Cornick <cc647@cleveland.freenet.edu>
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Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: information society
From: jsteiner@anwsun.phya.utoledo.edu (jason 'Think!' steiner)
Date: 7 Oct 92 20:04:09 EST
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL4

genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko) writes:
> does anyone still like this band? i think they're great.

they are great, as long as you don't take them too seriously. i've
got the feeling they're the musical equivalent of USA Up All Nite.
i like the new faux cyberpunk image, but their first was still better
than HACK.

jason "since when is INSOC alternative?" steiner

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From: genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Joy Div trivia
Date: Wed, 07 Oct 92 12:52:38 PDT
Organization: Hale Telecommunications San Diego CA

Christopher H. Prokop <CP8219A@auvm.american.edu> writes:

> Ok, everyone knows NO was originally JD
> Some know that JD was previously called Warsaw.
> Who knows what they were called before that (and more interestingly-
>     WHY??)
>           answer coming soon...........
> 
> 

during world war ii the nazis had several 'divisions' in the death camps. 
one of these divisions dealt with sexual experimentation performed on 
inmates of the camps. they would remove womens' breasts, mens' penises, 
etc... they wanted to see how people reacted. this was called the 'joy 
division'. also, hitler proposed what was translated as a 'new order'. 
what do you make of this?
-g

HALE TELECOMMUNICATIONS- Public Access Node, San Diego CA 619/660-6734 V32bis
genocide@hale.cts.com (Gary Danko)   07-Oct-92 at 12:54p

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From: kwelch@stipple.seas.upenn.edu (Kevin C. Welch)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: Perfect Circle (was Re: R.E.M.--Nightswimming)
Date: 12 Oct 92 16:00:04 GMT
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <Bvz864.3D6@news.iastate.edu> glitto@iastate.edu (Scott M Klabacha) writes:
>In article <92472@netnews.upenn.edu> kwelch@eniac.seas.upenn.edu (Kevin C. Welch) writes:
>
>>Well, Perfect Circle was recorded with an out of tune upright piano, but
>>it sounds good anyway.  

>I'd thought "Perfect Circle" had *two* pianos in it, both playing the same
>thing, and only one of which was out of tune. But I've been wrong before...

>So, what's the word--one or two?

From what I've read and what individual band members have said, the song
was recorded with that one piano, that's why it sounds so odd.  They
might use two in concert (they didn't in MTV - produced the same sounds,
nearly).


kcw



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From: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Newsgroups: alt.music.alternative
Subject: Re: INXS, peter murphy
Date: 15 Oct 92 13:07:44 GMT
Reply-To: awrc@dcs.ed.ac.uk (Al Crawford)
Organization: The University Of Edinburgh - Department Of Computer Science

In article <92288.213057SAB145@psuvm.psu.edu> SAB145@psuvm.psu.edu writes:
>
> as for peter murphy, what happened to _holy smoke_? the album was just
> released this summer, and in my humble opinion, was better than _deep_.
> any body have any feelings. if negative keep them save it for someone
> that cares.

"any body have any feelings? if negative keep them save it for someone that
cares."

Woah, nice way to start a reasoned debate i.e. only post if you agree with
me otherwise shut up.

I don't know precisely how the album fared in the US, but in the UK at
least it pretty much sank without trace - it's not yet made it into the
bargain bins, but I've seen it heavily discounted in a number of sales. The
same fate befell the one single released over here, "Hit Song" (which
wasn't). I'd personally place it 3rd in the roster of Murphy solo albums -
I preferred _Love Hysteria_ and _Deep_ (although the gap between _Holy
Smoke_ and _Deep_ in my estimation isn't *huge*).

Why didn't I like it? I felt it lacked the variety of, say, _Love
Hysteria_. Perhaps not to the point where all the songs sound the same, but
at least to the point where they tend to blur together in memory. Murphy
was, if not exactly all over the shop, at least *experimenting* a little on
_Love Hysteria_ - there's slow songs, there's up-tempo stuff, there's
ballads and the pomposity factor is fairly low - if he *is* hamming it up,
it comes across as humourous rather than po-faced. I felt that didn't
happen on _Holy Smoke_, he was almost a parody of himself in places. I
wouldn't describe it as a *bad* album, it's just one that, IMHO, doesn't
have any real standout tracks. I still play it, just not very often.

--
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