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Date:         Wed, 11 Nov 1992 15:54:40 MST
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: campus-wide debit cards

On Wed, 11 Nov 1992 13:07:54 -0400 <EADWML@RITVAX> said:
>If your university uses a campus wide debit / ID card could you share with me
>what features this card has that your library utilizes?

   We have a card from Griffin.  Mag stripe, photo ID.

>Ex:  are fines collected via this card?  Do you use this card in vendacard
>machines?  If there are charhes associated w/ ILL--can they be deducted off
>card?

   We do not currently deduct any charges from the card, but hope to be
able to do so in the next year.  The ID card folks are wisely following
a path of gradual implementation and development.

   We swipe the card and thus check current status in the ID computer.
If and only if they are valid, the ID number goes into our computer
terminal and charges the book.  Cards also used for meal plans, for
cash/debit accounts for food service, athletic tickets, etc.

   We do hope to use it further in the library when a few other financial
problems with it are worked out.

dan

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From:         "Shelly Spaulding (Dykes library)" <SHELLS@UKANVM.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: access

On Thu, 5 Nov 1992 08:22:00 CST Terry Ratliff said:
>A bit of dreaming ... how many of you work in a library that has its "access"
>priorities in such an order that adequate shelfreading is done, shelving

Actually, we do make the staff read everyday.  Usually 30 minutes.  Students at
night read for 15 minutes.

We are in the planning stages right now to start our next major shelf shift to
accomodate different sized books and to allow for additional journals.  We have
a million extra book ends!!!!!
allows 4different size books so that a book shelved on its spine is a


>rarity and where quality bookends exist in sufficient numbers?  A show of hands
>please.
>
>Harley Man
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Subject:      Re: paging systems

I think we have a pretty good compromise in our paging system.  We use bells
which ring on all floors simultaneously.  We use this system for closing - 15
and again 5 minutes before lights out.  We also use it to call in specific staff
members from the stacks - Circ, Ref, security, custodial.  The good part, of
course, is that we can't make announcements with it, so must decline all
requests to do so.  We have also used it for tornado warnings and for the bomb
threat (no one took this seriously) we had one fine spring morning after 5
months of being snowbound.
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Folke Bernadotte Memorial Library
Gustavus Adolphus College                      SANDEE@GACVX1.BITNET
St. Peter, MN.  56082                          SANDEE@GACVX1.GAC.EDU
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Subject: Re: Photocopying technology
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Please post for the list the information you have gathered
regarding scanning reserve materials.  We are currently
undergoing a review of our reserve services and this technology
has come up.  Students here photocopy the personal copy material
themselves if they wish to have a copy.  It seems to me that it
would be more work for the library to have to scan all the
personal copy submissions.  I also understand that the scanning
is not perfect.  Comments?

Marilyn Nasserden
Bibliographic Services Coordinator
MacKimmie Library
University of Calgary
Calgary, Alberta
T2N 1N4  CANADA
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Subject: IDs and checkout
Date: 13 Nov 1992 13:58:51 GMT
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At Marquette University, we will NOT check out books without IDs. This also
applies to Faculty. We are on the Innopac system and before we were, faculty
signed for there books. Theoretically, they were to show their ID cards (which
at the time had no pictures) but the "regulars" rarely did and were often 
put out when asked for one by a Student Assistant who failed to 
"recognize" him or her. It was a pleasant surprise therefore when we encoun                   
encountered little or no opposition to the use of the new ID cards with their
barcodes and pictures.
We will offer to hold books for a day or two for those who forget their IDS.
I might add that MU has restricted access which requires an ID for admit-
tance which has, no doubt, aided the library in its no-ID-no-book 
policy.
On the question of Class Reserves, ILL material or rented videotapes from
Blockbuster (or wherever) will NOT be placed on Reserve. This also applies
to books checked out from other libraries. The library also assumes no
responsibility for damage to personal items placed on Class Reserves.
Steve Blackwood
Marquette University
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From:         Eileen O'Hara <ELOHARA@BROCK1P.BITNET>
Subject:      Student assistant award

We have a student assistant award here in our library called the Marion J.
Wells Award, in honor of our retired Head of Public Services.

The award is given annually to a library student employee based on four
basic criteria:

1.  Year in school (seniors have an advantage over freshman)
2.  Length of employment at the library
3.  Grade point average
4.  Letter of recommendation from the student's supervisor

A committee made up of librarians and library assistants judge the candidates.
Usually each unit in the library nominates one student.
A point-system is used in determining the winner.

The award winner receives a substantial savings bond, a certificate for
his or her College placement folder, and is recognized at the College's Honors
Convocation where the winner receives the award from the President of the
College.

Eileen O'Hara
Drake Memorial Library
SUNY Brockport
Brockport, NY 14420
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From: RGOLDBER@BINGVMB.BITNET (Ronnie Goldberg)
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Subject: ID cards
Date: 12 Nov 92 21:51:52 GMT
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When borrowers want to charge books without their ID card, we offer
to hold the books on our 24-hour hold shelf for them.  If they are
more persistent, we tell them they can charge books without an ID
card ONCE.  If they want to do this now, we record this information
in the online patron record.

Ronnie Goldberg
State University of New York
  at Binghamton
rgoldber@bingvmb
From: BDINKINS@UGA.BITNET (Becky Dinkins)
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Subject: Copyright and Reserve
Date: 10 Nov 92 15:25:04 GMT
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Copyright keeps coming up on this list.    Having revised our ppolicies
in the last year, I'd like to share some titles that have been helpful.
Also, somewhere in the discussion this fall, I think someone stated s/he
used CONTU guidelines for Reserve.  If I am remembering correctly, would
that person respond back to the list?  I had thought they were only for ILL.
Thanks!

Althouse, Jay.  COPYRIGHT: THE COMPLETE GUIDE FOR MUSIC EDUCATORS. Strouds-
burg, PA:  Music in Action, 1984.  Addresses topics like "This music was backor
derd, can I make copies for 3 students to use until my copies arrive?"

Fox, Peggy L.  "Copyright for scholars."  PAIDEUMA.  20:3 (Winter 1991),
81-88.  Addresses faculty concerns.  I wrote for permission to include it
with some other documents on long-term Reserve; they were "delighted" to
grant it.  Now the academic dean is considering getting permission to
distribute it to the entire faculty.

Patterson, L. Ray and Stanley W. Lindberg.  THE NATURE OF COPYRIGHT: A LAW
OF USER'S RIGHTS.  Athens:  The University of Georgia Press, 1991.  This
work is vehemently on the side of the users, citing royalty fees as a
"user's tax" -- it makes for very interesting reading!

QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS ON COPYRIGHT FOR THE CAMPUS COMMUNITY.  National
Association of College Stores, Inc., and The Association of American
Publishers, 1991.  "This publication is protected by copyright law.  It may,
however, be reproduced or quotes so long as the following acknowledgement
is included...."  Singles free copies may be rqeusted from:  National
Association of College Stores, Inc., 500 E. Lorain St., Oberlin, OH  44074-
1294

Reed, Mary Hutchings.  tHE COPYRIGHT PRIMER FOR LIBRARIANS AND EDUCATORS.
Washington, DC:  National Education Association; Chicago, London: American
Library Association, 1987.  Addresses specific classroom and library
situations.

No one really addresses the Reserve issue directly.  One of them somewhere
described it as an offshoot of the classroom rules.  Good luck!
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From:         "(Robin R. Hartman)" <robin2%cheshire.oxy.edu@SDSC.BITNET>
Subject:      LIBRARY CARD CHARGES

circplus.mem

We are a private academic library serving 1600+ students in the Los Angeles/Pasa
dena area.

We charge $50/year for guest borrowing priveleges.

The library's administration office takes care of taking money and explaining th
e rules etc.  Then they bring the receipt to the circ desk and they are keyed in
to the system and given a guest borrowers card.  These cards are renewable annua
lly.  Even students from other colleges may pay the fee and become guest borrowe
rs.

There is a 3 book limit on check outs and no audiovisual materials may be checke
d out (no videos or the use of VCRs).  Also, guest borrowers are restricted from
 the use of our computers in the computer lab.  Unfortunately, there is no real
way to enforce that as of yet.

Robin Hartman
Circulation/Reserve Assistant
Occidental College Library
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Subject: Re: paging systems
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I have never worked in a library where a paging system is used, but
have been amused at the annoyance of patrons when they call the
reference desk to inquire if we could page such and such a person.
One time, a building manager almost blew out my ear drums by saying:
"(Depletive), this building is going to get all flooded by the
time we find her. She left the taps in her room on."  You would
think building officers were empowered to keep duplicate keys.
I guess that can be a page in the chapter of building management.

Sometimes there are real emergencies that paging systems could
be used. There was a case when a student's mother had passed
away, and there were family members in the lrary looking for
her.  I did walk them through each floor our huge edifice. The
student was not studying in the building. It was time consuming
to walk them around, but I thought it was a noble venture.

The thing about paging is that many a time, the person who is
being sought is not in the library.  The call to the library
may be one of the many calls to several units on campus.
Once again, it's like one of the many pages in the process
of finding.

Many happy paging to us all.
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Date:         Thu, 5 Nov 1992 13:14:00 CST
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From:         "NAME JANET PATTERSON, RESERVE LIBRARY,
              UWEC" <PATTERJL@CNSVAX.UWEC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Reserve Holds and Renewals

Ted,
Your situation sounds divine...what does umslvma stand for and do you
have any job openings??!!
janet patterson
patterjl@uwec.edu
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Stetson University is also a private institution about the same size
as Alfred University.  We have had an access policy in place now
for about 3 years.  There are 2 basic categories 1) access (no
check-out) and 2) membership (check0-out allowed).  Also, there
are several sub-categories under each.  All fees are annual fees-
cards expire at the end of the month in which issued udring the
following year.  Our charges are as follows:

        ACCESS:
                regular - $35.00
                alumni  - $FREE
                clergy  - $FREE

        MEMBERSHIP:
                regular - $100.00
                alumni  - $ 25.00
                clergy  - $ 25.00
                senior  - $ 80.00 (65 yrs or older)
                6 mo's  - $ 60.00 (expires at end of 6 months)

We do not limit the number of items that can be checked-out on a
membership card.  We, however, do not extend ILL privileges to
membership card holders.  Also, cards are not issued to anyone
under the age of 14.

This has worked well for us so far.  We had a real problem with
high school and local community college students before as to
them using materials and sergvices and the facility to the deter-
ment of our ou(oops) own faculty and students - especially when it
came to reference services and materials (CD-ROM databases in
particular).  Of course, there are always special situations which
are handled on a case by case basis.  Three people have the
authorigy to waive fees, etc: Head of Circulation, Reserves, ILL;
Associate Director for Public Services: and the Director.  Seems
to be working fine.  We just reviewed the policy at the beginning
of this fiscal year and decided to keep it in place

Hope this helps

Judi Shaffer                    Stetson University
  Head: Circulation,            duPont Ball Library
  Reserves, & ILL               DeLand, Florida
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Subject: holds on reserves
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I haven't had much of a chance to participate in the latest discussions- I've
been reading everything though and I find this topic interesting for a variety
of reasons.

Here at Cornell Medical Library we have an overhead paging system. We put
reserve items on hold (using LIS) when they are off the shelf, so that when
they are returned, we can page the next person on the overhead. If he/she has
left the Library, we cancel the hold, of course.

It is, naturally, a simple system, and no problem at all, I guess, because we
have a paging system. Lately, we have been having some discussions concerning
whether or not we should have an overhead paging system, as it needs major re-
haul to the tune of $5000. or so, and most physicians have electronic beepers,
so do they really need to be paged overhead in the Library? I feel that the
whole system is misused, as patrons ask us to page people to the desk so they
don't have to walk around looking for them, and many, many calls are personal
not clinical. We're examining whether or not our patrons would rather have a
quieter workplace. Does anyone else out there have any experience re>this
topic?
From: andrus@CS.UWP.EDU (Bonnie Andrus)
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Date: Tue, 10 Nov 1992 08:26:00 -0600 (CST)
From: Bonnie Andrus <andrus@cs.uwp.edu>
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Subject: Protection for night stack workers

My name is Bonnie Andrus and I work for The University of
Wisconsin-Parkside and I am the Circulation Supervisor titled as LSA V.
Recently we have had the problem of patrons harrassing student workers on
our third floor while either shelving a cart or shelf reading.  Our campus
Security sent up a Crime Prevention Officer and demonstrated a system
which sounds like a car alarm going off.  We don't want to scare anyone
and we don't want anyone to get the impression that this is an unsafe
place to work.  The University itself doesn't have very many problems with
this sort of thing however this sort of thing can happen anywhere anytime.
We thought a better idea would be to implement some sort of self defense
techniques in our student worker orientations.  Does anyone out there do
this sort of thing in their libraries?  Or does anyone know of a video
with this kind of thing for libraries?
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From:         "NAME JANET PATTERSON, RESERVE LIBRARY,
              UWEC" <PATTERJL@CNSVAX.UWEC.EDU>
Subject:      Re: Reserve Holds and Renewals

Joanne,
I developed a little form for the Reserve desk just to handle this situation.
The form (1/4 of a sheet of paper) has a big DO NOT RENEW heading.  If some-
one asks for an item currently checked out, we note the call number, title,
author, date, time, and operator on the form and post it right at the desk.
This works very well!  The note stays posted until we notice the demand
passing.

So we do 1.--allow renewals unless we have requests for a checked out items.
It's surprising how many items on Reserve are items that can be used over
a longer period of time and renewals cause no problem at all.  I didn't want
a policy that would keep materials on the stacks that someone could use.
I feel that denying renewals across the board would do just that.

janet patterson
McIntyre Library
university of wisconsin-eau claire
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From:         kendall <KSIMMONS%UKANVM.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>
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              5 Nov 1992 08:22:00 CST from <TRAT%KSUVM.bitnet@CUNYVM.CUNY.EDU>

Are you nuts, Terry?  What is shelfreading?  What is adequate space for
upright shelving?  Ah, but we do have lots of bookends!!!

Kendall
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  I can't say that adequate shelf reading is done (excpet holiday breaks)
yet, but we continue to strive...  We do have a seperate area for art
books so they will never end up on it's spine, and a special location for
very large books, however, most of our oversized books, unfortunately, end
up on their spines.
Good news...we have plenty of book ends!  We have even had to put them in
storage!!
Am anxious to hear how those who do have adequate shelf reading through
the year have it set up!

Maresa Kirk
Mark O. Hatfield Library
Willamette University
Salem, OR
mkirk@Willamette.edu

On Thu, 5 Nov 1992, Terry Ratliff wrote:

> A bit of dreaming ... how many of you work in a library that has its "access"
> priorities in such an order that adequate shelfreading is done, shelving
> allows for different size books so that a book shelved on its spine is a
> rarity and where quality bookends exist in sufficient numbers?  A show of
 hands
> please.
>
> Harley Man
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From:         Dan Lester <ALILESTE@IDBSU.BITNET>
Subject:      weekend disruption

Good morning and happy Friday.  The BSU campus will have a major power
outage this weekend while a number of high voltage lines are upgraded.
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From: arlene@MAILER.NYMC.EDU (ARLENE)
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Subject: Library Cards
Date: 11 Nov 92 18:43:35 GMT
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          Breaking old habits is not easy!!

          Our Circulation Staff is having difficulty enforcing a new
          policy - which consists of not keeping students and faculty
          library cards on file anymore.

          Any suggestions on how to get students/faculty to carry and
          present their library cards when checking out materials?
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From:         "DIVENS, W.C." <N93774@PITTVMS.BITNET>
Subject:      Re: access

A bit of dreaming ... how many of you work in a library that has its "access"
priorities in such an order that adequate shelfreading is done, shelving
allows for different size books so that a book shelved on its spine is a
rarity and where quality bookends exist in sufficient numbers?  A show of hands
please.

Harley Man
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