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From: chilton@crc.ricoh.com (Jeff Chilton)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: IT'S YOUR FAULT!
Date: 27 Jul 92 20:39:59 GMT
Organization: RICOH California Research Center

blosser_cy@lrc.edu writes:
> You filthy money-grubbing, rich capitalist pigs driving fast sports cars and
> gas-guzzling automobiles, polluting the air with the nauseating stench of ex
> haust, creating acid rain, and melting a gaping hole in the ever-diminishing
> ozone layer...it's all your fault this world is so f--ked up!!! If everybody
> got rid of their automobiles, we'd have a much nicer environment to leave to 
> our children!!!! 

   Well, we know where you hang out now.  Why don't you post a physical
   description of yourself so one of us  filthy money-grubbing, rich
   capitalist pigs driving fast sports cars can have a sneezing fit when we
   see you in a cross-walk.

    Can you say "Blump-Blump" :-)
From: barnesm@vavau.Corp.Sun.COM (Mark Barnes)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: I HATE MAZDA   (was: Re: MAZDA DEALER RIP OFF)
Date: 31 Jul 92 03:34:40 GMT
Reply-To: barnesm@vavau.Corp.Sun.COM
Organization: Sun Microsystems, Inc.
NNTP-Posting-Host: vavau.corp.sun.com

I HATE MAZDA I HATE MAZDA I HATE MAZDA I HATE MAZDA I HATE MAZDA I HATE MAZDA I HATE M

You get the idea......

Larry(MADZA ate my shorts once now I go without)Akers is not the only one who has been
treated shabbily by Mazda.  I've posted my story too many times already, so I won't bore
you with the details.  Suffice it to say I'd like to make them pay a million times over what
I had to pay to (not) get my car fixed.  By letting people know how they repay their customers
for forking over their hard-earned money.

---Mark (I HATE MAZDA) Barnes
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: roberts@syacus.acus.oz.au (Robert Salier)
Subject: Re: Honda Concerto
Organization: ACUS Australian Centre for Unisys Software, Sydney
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 1992 23:15:19 GMT

cc433336@longs.LANCE.ColoState.Edu (Constantinos A. Caroutas) writes:

>I saw a Honda ad in a recent issue of The Times (of London) which featured
>the Accord, the Concerto, and the Civic. What they called Civic was the
>hatchback, while the Concerto seemed to be the size of the 4DR Civic
>available in the States. It seemed different though. Any idea if the
>Concerto is indeed equivalent to the 4DR Civic we see in the States? Are
>the body styling differences significant?
>--
>Constantinos A. Caroutas

If it's the same Concerto as they sell in Aust, it is a 4-door lift-back
based on the Civic platform, but with an emphasis on luxury.  It's been
around for a while now ('88 or '89), and will be replaced in the next year.
Price is just above that of the Civic range.  Engine is a fuel-injected
version of the 1.6L Civic engine.  It has not sold well here.  Road tests
have generally labelled the Concerto competent, but boring.

- Robert
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech
From: stevenh@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (steven.t.heinsius)
Subject: Re: 86-88 T'bird: Turbo, V6 or V8?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 31 Jul 1992 15:14:56 GMT

I agree running the car for a while will let it cool down,
a friend of mine has a "SHO" and is on his 3rd turbo,
another friend had a T-bird (wow i have 2 friends) and 
she put a turbo in at 30K.
I have a Chrysler GTS w/TURBO1 130K (came with a Garret water
cooled turbo and Bosch fuel injection) so far so good.

I think the most important thing is to change the oil (10W30)
every 3K.

For what it is worth i only buy water cooled turbo's

Steve.

PS My 5spd trans is a real junk ---- It has been rebuilt 3 times
by chrysler and it still grinds all the time. No more 
Chryslers for me --- Lee couldn't fix it - so i aint buying it.
---------------------------------------------------------------

kFrom article <1992Jul31.080043.2644@mr.med.ge.com>, by hinz@bonfire (David Hinz Mfg 4-6987):
> stevenh@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (steven.t.heinsius) writes:
> : Don't buy a turbo.
> : Since they are not water cooled they cook the oil
> : 
> : Steve
> 
> I drive a H2O cooled turbo myself, but I am of the understanding that if you
> let the car cool down (idle) for about a minute before turning it off, the oil
> flow will cool the turbo sufficiently to eliminate coking.  (Synthetic oil,
> IMHO, is a MUST in turbo engines, as well).  A friend has used this method for
> almost 400,000 miles in a 83 SAAB 900T, and has never rebuilt the turbo
> (or engine!), so it must be working for him.
> 
> 
> --
> 
> Dave Hinz  -  Opinions expressed are mine, not my employer's.  Obviously.
> SAAB - Because you get what you pay for.
> hinz@picard.med.ge.com
> 
>
From: mizutanit@wharton.upenn.edu
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: M5 vs. Sports Cars
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:21:26 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: University of Pennsylvania

In article <1992Jul27.165911.28776@igor.tamri.com>, salil@igor.tamri.com (Salil Saxena) writes:
> In article <5111@transfer.stratus.com> cdodson@beast.cac.stratus.com writes:
>>In article <SUDEEP.92Jul23154930@pundit.arc.UUCP> sudeep@arc.UUCP (Sudeep  
>>Sharma) writes:
 
>>>  Have you driven not the BMW 535i sedan but the M5?
>>>  It will blow the sh*t out of most sport cars!
 
>>>  Sean.

>>Most ?

>>You could almost buy two RX-7's for the price of an M5, and each one will
>>peel the paint right off the M5. Faster acceleration, better brakes, better
>>handling. Same for a new Corvette LT-1, same for a 300zx twin turbo, same
>>for a Stealth/3000GT. 

>>The M5's of the mid-late 80's were among the faster cars of their day, but
>>comparing a new M5 to any of the recent generation of super-sports cars is
>>a little far-fetched. The new 5-series body is just too heavy.
 
> This may be ture, but no other true 4 seater can match it, MB 500E is the
> exception.  But it costs about twice the what the M5 does.  Also, the new
> M5's at least in Europe have larger engines, which will blow the sh*t out
> of most sports cars!!!!!
 
 
Has anyone heard of a new M5 which is supposed to be out soon?

For 1992, in Europe, Japan and most of the world (except the U.S.), BMW put a 
larger 3.8 liter inline-6 in the M5. Quoted horsepower figures were about 340
bhp.

I read somewhere that they were thinking about putting a DOHC 32v V-8 in the
M5, along the lines of the new 7-series V-8s.

With a new V-8, these cars would not only be faster, but smoother.

With ~360-380 bhp, an M5 would blow away nearly every sports car on the road,
with the exception of Ferrari F40s, Diablos, 911 turbos and such, and still be
able to carry five passengers and their luggage!

Taka
From: wiryaman@riscee.pko.dec.com (Santa Wiryaman)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Mazda : Factory Incentives
Date: 31 Jul 92 13:58:04 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation, Maynard MA

In article <1992Jul31.054039.29076@Princeton.EDU> smyung@phoenix.Princeton.EDU (Sung Myung) writes:
> Does anyone know about the factory rebate on Mazda MX-3 ?
> MX-3 GS is my interest. 
>Or is there any 1-800 number with which I can check this out?
> Thanks in advance.
>                          Sung

Mazda Northeast Regional Office is at 865 Centenial Ave, Piscataway, NJ.
Phone number is (908)885-1200.  Headquarters number in CA is 1-800-222-5500.


-- 
Santa Wiryaman

INTERNET : wiryaman@riscee.pko.dec.com
UUCP     : ...!decwrl!riscee.pko.dec.com!wiryaman
From: norcott_bill@tandem.com (Bill Norcott)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: 1989 Ford Tempo problem
Date: 31 Jul 92 17:48:46 GMT
Reply-To: norcott_bill@tandem.com  (Bill Norcott)
Organization: Tandem Computers, Inc.

In article <1992Jul29.202802.29742@tandem.com>, norcott_bill.tandem.com (Bill Norcott) writes:
|> In article <1992Jul28.013612.23442@tandem.com>, norcott_bill@tandem.com (Bill Norcott) writes:
|> |> I just called Ford today at 1-800-392-3673, there is a recall for
|> |> the '87 model (which I have).  It is an emissions recall, not the
|> |> fuel pump.  My local Ford dealer scheduled me for the day after
|> |> tomorrow.  By the way it is called "campaign 89E78".
|> |> 
I got the car back yesterday, it now has a new fuel injector paid for
by Ford.  Car is also shifting somewhat smoother, as they adjusted 
the transmission's throttle linkage.

-- 
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Bill Norcott			GUARDIAN POSIX project
Tandem Computers, Inc.		
10600 N. Tantau Avenue		PHONE:  (408) 285-3253
Cupertino, CA   95014		EMAIL: norcott_bill@tandem.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Subject: Re: Ford Mustang, GT, 5.0L, V8
Reply-To: jrd@po.CWRU.Edu (John R. Daker)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
Date: Tue, 21 Jul 92 17:11:30 GMT


In a previous article, livneh@oliver.rutgers.edu (Shai Livneh) says:

>I can't tell you about the GT but the LX is a different story.  A couple of weeks ago
>I was shopping for a mustang (I've always wanted one and finally had enough money).
>What I really was interested in was the 5.0 LX coupe (as opposed to the hatchback).
>For me there is no beating the pure muscular look of the LX, while the GT I think is too
>flashy with those air scoops etc. but that is personal taste.  I test drove an 89 and it 
>all the power I dreamed of but the dealer wanted $9000 for it and it was one of the ugliest 
>colors ever (beige, orange with brown and tan).  After shopping around and having to deal 
>with the ever annoying salesdroids, I finally got an unbelievable deal for a brand new LX 
>hatchback for $10988 (unheard of considering sticker price was close to $17000).  I was all
>excited and was ready to buy the car until I found out what the insurance is going to be
>$3500 - here in the wonderful state of NJ (and this without my DMV points).  
>Well, anyway for me the Mustang is just a dream car at this point until I get a real job
>(being a grad student doesn't do wonders for you financially).  
>As for you, if you like the GT and are willing to buy one you realize you will pay more 
>for a car that might look better but cost several thousand more and is probably slower 
>than an LX in identical trim (engine and transmission).  I think it is one of the only American
>cars out there that I would consider driving since it has a big strong V8 and is rear wheel 
>drive and is just purely muscular in looks and sound.  As for model year, your best bet is
>with a 1990 and later since the mass flow multi-port fuel injection was installed on these
>cars and is superior to the previous fuel system.  Good like finding a car.
>								Shai Livneh
>								Rutgers University
>

					You'd think
			that a graduate          		student
at a university
					would  be able		to
format a								    letter
		properly.

Guess higher
				education isn't
					what it used to Bee.
-- 
...............................DarkMan..................................
Trying to think of something profound to put here.  Also available for
advertisements at a reasonable cost.                       DoD# 650
From: epc1@quads.uchicago.edu (Merlin)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: What is a blue book cost for a 87 Fiero?
Date: 22 Jul 92 22:51:19 GMT
Reply-To: epc1@midway.uchicago.edu
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations



What is a blue book cost for a 1987 Fiero (both 4 cyl & GT models)?
I would really appreciate it because my friend bought a 87 Fiero
after doing absolutely no research for $4500.  Is he stupid?
I believe he is since he paid sticker price from a dealer.

Thanks for any info.

I couldn't find any info at the local bookstores...(maybe because it's 
recalled?)
-- 
En Pum Cho					
University of Chicago Class of 1994
math & economics major
epc1@midway.uchicago.edu
From: mfedas@provx30.intel.com (Mark Fedasiuk ~)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: J.C. Whittney Catalog
Date: 23 Jul 92 18:45:44 GMT
Reply-To: mfedas@provx30.UUCP (Mark Fedasiuk ~)
Organization: Microprocessor Component Group, Intel Corp., Santa Clara, CA


Hello all!

I have not been following this group, but I need some help. I use to get
J.C. Whittney catalogs all the time, but have not seen them for a while.

Does anyone know a phone number I can call to get one again???

I am looking for a rack to backmount the spare-tire for an S10 BLAZER.

Does anyone have any other suggestions for a soure for this aftermarket
device?


If you respond, pleas post or mail me at:   mfedas@prochp.intel.com

The address in the header is WRONG! DON'T user the reply mode in news or
it will bounce!!!


                                  thanks in advance

                                            mark
From: jack@eecs.nwu.edu (Kuo-Feng Liao)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: shipping a car to other state...
Keywords: shipping a car...
Date: 24 Jul 92 15:17:24 GMT
Article-I.D.: eecs.1992Jul24.151724.1492
Organization: EECS Department, Northwestern University

Hi,

 Can someone tell me what is the ideal way to ship a car from Chicago to New York 
City ?   Well, my car is great for local transportation, but I am not sure if 
it can servive through 900 miles highway driving.   I got a price quote for $425 
to ship it from Chicago to Newark, N.J., is that a good deal ? 
(I spent $2000 to maintain it in the past 6 months, so it's hard for me to 
think of selling it for $1400 and get another car there.....it's a '84 Chevy
Impala.  Any comment on this model is also welcomed--help me decide to sell/keep 
it.)    Thanks in advance.
  
-- 
K.F. Liao
jack@eecs.nwu.edu
From: nunn@sura.net (Deborah Nunn)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Unmarked COP Cars (Was Re: More CHP shit!)
Date: 22 Jul 92 19:53:36 GMT
Organization: SURAnet, College Park, MD, USA, NA, Earth, Milky Way

In article <TPAQUETTE.92Jul22100256@gumby.ita.lgc.com> tpaquette@ita.lgc.com (Trevor Paquette) writes:
>
>   In Alberta I have seen Mustang 5.0l being used on the highway between
> Calgary and Edmonton.
>   In BC I got pulled over by a Jet Black 1991 Thunderbird (Trubo?). Totally
> unmarked. The rear windows were tinted really dark. It looked just like
> any other Thunderbird. Until it was about 50 feet away from me and then
> my radar detector went nuts... 
>
>   I was going one way and he was going the other. He didn't even pulse
> any of the cars in front of me. I was 4th in a pack of 6 cars spaced about
> 150 feet from each other. He picked me out of all of them.. that's what you
> get when you drive a 'German Driving Sensation'..
>
>--
>Name : Trevor Paquette       | Landmark/ITA             |   _\___ Fahrvergnugen
>Email: tpaquette@ita.lgc.com | Calgary, Alberta, Canada |  /     \____         
>Visitor from CyberSpace      | (403) 269-4669           | / G60       \        
>Renegade of Virtual Reality  | #include <disclaimer.h>  | \-O------O--/        

I have seen a few nontraditional unmarked cop cars myself recently.  One
guy was pulled over on the side of the road by an unmarked car -- the
only way I could tell was because it had the lights in the grill.  No
tell-tale antennaes and -- get this -- the copy was dressed like someone
going to work (white shirt, tie, etc.).  He didn't even hae a uniform
on.

I have also seen Ford Tauruses and a Nissan (or Mazda, not quite sure)
as unmarked cop cars.  I guess they don't need those oh-so-obvious-
antennaes-that-make-it-so-easy to spot an unmarked car anymore (sigh!).
From: eliot@lanmola.engr.washington.edu (eliot)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Luxury Performance Cars
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:15:55 GMT
Organization: clearer than blir

In article <CARL.92Jul21085659@atlantis.Cayman.COM> carl@Cayman.COM (Carl Heinzl) writes:
>The Acura Vigor does 0-60 in approximately 8.8 sec (one sec slower
>than the Legend but still faster than the J30 or Audi 100) and has
>very nice and tight handling.  

In a constant radius, constant camber curve that is.  Any other kind
of curve that demands some damping action and it is a mess.  The
handling is designed to impress on a 15 minute test drive, little
else.  Any "S" shaped curve will soon have it rocking like a boat.
The Integra GSR is the same way.

>Take one for a test ride if you want to be suprised.  

I did, and was surprised at how bad it is. 

>It has the moonroof (that you want), you can get a DSP
>stereo (which I love, my wife has a Vigor, btw).  It has a 110"
>wheelbase!

And about 2 inches of rear legroom.

Sorry, Carl, but the Vigor is a seriously bad car and I couldn't let this
one get by, especially if the prospective buyer has a BMW right now.


eliot
From: mcrosbie@doc.bmd.trw.com
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Typhoon test drive..Syclone too
Date: 23 Jul 92 11:06:09 MST

In article <1992Jul21.055744.3057@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu>, mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu (Marshal "Airborne" Perlman) writes:
> chrisw@hpscit.sc.hp.com (Chris Wiles) writes:
> .i was told
> though...that sycloens were made for 91 and that was it...ive not
> year heard or seen anything about 92 or 93 syclones =8(
> --
> ==============================  *  Marshal Perlman               * DO
> =-> mperlman@nyx.cs.du.edu <-=  *  Huntington Beach, California  * NOT
> ==============================  *  (Surf City, U.S.A)            * EAT
> ___ANYONE UNDER 18 IS A MINER___


Does anyone have a definite answer on this....are Syclones out of production
forever?  I heard that Automobile magazine said that the Syclones were not
being produced in favor the better selling Typhoon, but I confronted a sales
schmuck about it and he denied it.  There haven't been any 1992's built, but
they qualified that with 'yet'.

I bought a Syclone.  I drove the Syclone and Typhoon and they were both
awesome, although the Syclone felt faster and nimbler....and the numbers that
are published on them verifiy that.  They are both overpriced if you pay
sticker for them.  Even though the interiors are better than the Sonoma/Jimmy
they are still cheap plastic stuff that a $25K-30K car with AWD, ABS and
all the toys should not have.  I bought my Sylone at a major discount, but
the Typhoons aren't being discounted as deeply, partly because they are more
marketable, and partly because they are 1992 models.

I would really like to know if the Syclone program is dead.  I have mixed 
emotions about it.  I think it will help mine hold its value, but I wish
GMC would continue to manufacture and refine this product.
From: jitloke@tekig5.pen.tek.com (Jit-Loke Lim)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: Jeep Cherokee
Date: 28 Jul 92 17:29:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: tekig7.6327
Organization: Tektronix, Inc., Beaverton,  OR.

In article <712236649.0@nwark.FidoNet> Mike.Dean@f1060.n391.z1.FidoNet.Org (Mike Dean) writes:
>  I have a 1985 Jeep Cherokee that I bought from a 2nd party.  It has
>{60,*** plus miles on it. Really a {qbout average miles.  It hasn't been
>abused as far as I can tell. 
>Was wondering if anybody has one and if they have had any
>problems with anything on it.

Check out the latest issue of AutoWeek. It had an article on Cherokees of
your vintage. I found it quite informative. Enjoy!


Jit
From: Brian.E.Hannon@dartmouth.edu (Brian E. Hannon)
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: Re: SATURN PRICE INCREASE
Date: 27 Jul 92 16:55:07 GMT
 <22634@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
Organization: Dartmouth College, Hanover, NH

In article <22634@oasys.dt.navy.mil>
valdesus@oasys.dt.navy.mil (Joseph Valdesuso) writes:

> In rec.autos, beuf@wpi.WPI.EDU (Richard J Fuller) writes:
> >Saturn announced a 9+% price increase for the '93 model year
> >
> >any surprises>>>>>
> Yes, but the optional air bag ($625) is now standard on the car.  If
> you take this into account, the overall= increase is about 1% .  This
> is excellent when iflation is about-- 5%.

I agree with the basic idea of your post (it really is only a small
increase) but, your math is off a little bit.  A 9% increase would
represent an increase of $900-1350 on the average Saturn (price
$10K-15K).  Take off 625 for the airbag and you still have $275-725
increase, which is still a 2.75-4.8% increase.  This past year
inflation has been remarkably low 3%, so the Saturn increases are the
same or a little higher than inflation.  Not a big deal, but it isn't
"excellent" as you would claim.

Bri
Newsgroups: rec.autos
From: gtas1@pool.info.sunyit.edu (Terrance Stedman)
Subject: Chrysler's 800 customer support number, help please...
Organization: State University of New York -- Institute of Technology
Date: Tue, 28 Jul 1992 14:33:22 GMT


	I've been trying to get through on Chrysler's 800 customer support
number for days now.  The line is busy, busy, busy...
	Can someone tell me if the number I'm calling is the right one?

	800-992-1997

Many thanks...
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From: hvozda@wilbur.psu.edu (Eric Hvozda)
Subject: Re: MAZDA DEALER RIP OFF
Organization: Penn State University, Center for Academic Computing
Date: Thu, 30 Jul 92 15:19:55 GMT

In article <1992Jul30.111938.11309@mips2.ma30.bull.com> K.Buck@ma30.bull.com writes:
>In article <2620049@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM> lea00@hplvec.LVLD.HP.COM
>> The dealer I bought my new 626 from was the only dealer that could 
>>do warranty work on my car.
>
>this simply isn't true.
>the *dealership* may have told you this, but did _Mazda_
>tell you this too?

Ah, but in places like Allentown, dealers agree not to work on cars bought
at another dealership.  It really stinks too.  I am speaking specially of
the dealerships down on Emmaus Street.

Places else where about town I have had good dealings with...
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hvozda@vivaldi.psu.edu           hvozda@wilbur.psu.edu            DoD #0217
From: cyg1431@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Who needs to know )
Newsgroups: rec.autos
Subject: 1989 Ford Tempo problem
Date: 21 Jul 92 19:59:50 GMT
Organization: University of Illinois at Urbana

Awhile back I posted a question about my fuel pump
on my Ford Tempo and got many helpful responses.  I decided
to continue driving it without changing it.  Recently my
car stalled after a long 4 hour trip and I thought it had
to be the stupid fuel pump.  The fuel pump was quite loud,
and when it was about to stall, I couldn't hear it.  I took
it into a mechanic, telling him that I thought the fuel
pump needed to be replaced.  However, he couldn't duplicate
the stalling, and suggested that instead it might be
the computer module that regulates the fuel/air/etc.
So, at this point, I'm not sure what to do, though doing
SOMETHING seems important!

Symptoms:  
1.  When car idles after a long while, it sometimes dies.
2.  Fuel pump has been suspect.  I don't know if these things
    completely fail or intermittently fail over time.

The more I think about it, the more I think it just needs
a tuneup (40,000 miles) and that's it.  However, if anyone
has any advice/similar experience, I would very much appreciate 
hearing it.  Thanks!

Chris
cyoung@uicsltc.csl.uiuc.edu
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From: hwang@mace.cc.purdue.edu (I-shiou Ng)
Newsgroups: rec.autos,rec.autos.tech,misc.consumers
Subject: Help to buy a 1985 olds 98 sedan
Date: 27 Jul 92 15:14:38 GMT
Followup-To: rec.autos
Distribution: usa
Organization: Purdue University

Hi, everybody
	Last weekend, I found a 1985 Olds 98 with 110k on it. The owner asked
$3500 for it. Cause I am not familar with the products of GM, so I want to ask
some question from you.
1) The 85 OLds 98 is in its first model year. Is it good to buy a first model
year GM car?
2) What kind problems people have in 85 Olds 98?
3) What is the average life span of the engine?
4) What is the reasonable price for it? How to deal car price with car owner?
5) How to check it like mechanical condiction?
6) The plate on that is expired in June. How can I legally take to highway to
test drive it?

Thanks in advance

I-shiou
Newsgroups: rec.autos