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From: CENG51@maccvm.corp.mot.com (Craig Witkowski)
Subject: Re: 20 Re: Bad Timing
Organization: Motorola
Date: 14 Dec 1992 07:18:58 CST

>But acribing magical powers to the locus of addiction -- rather than
>dealing with the addiction as a personal problem -- seems to me to be a
>sophisticated form of denial.

>   [... lots of examples I agree with]

>   It's not the sex, it's the endorphins.  It's looking for Mr. Goodbar.
                                                             ***********
Or maybe just looking for a "Bit-O-Honey" :-)


Craig Witkowski, CENG51@maccvm.corp.mot.com
Motorola Communications & Electronics Inc.
Glen Rock,  NJ

Let's Go Racin'!
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From: souchay@CAM.ORG (Francois Souchay)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Women at work, was Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?
Date: 12 Dec 92 16:04:16 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Communications Accessibles Montreal, Quebec Canada

In article <JULIE.92Dec11190308@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu> julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright) writes:
>jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith) writes:
>
>>Keith, don't you have any classes with women?  Do you have no
>>work relationships with women?  You sound like the only contact
>>with the female gender you get is when you are looking for a mate.
>>I'm blissfully pleased you don't work with me -
>>that kind of attitude, even in small doses, would be enough to drive me
>>right out.
>
><sigh>  I think this is happening to me.  Several guys in my field
>aren't like that, but an awful lot of them are, and most of the physical
>chemists in the country are men.  I just can't imagine living my whole
>life feeling like a freak and an outcast at work.  It's a lot easier 
>to get another job than to change a huge set of people, and I can't 
>seem to manage to be happy with work in this situation.  Oh well, 
>their loss.  Mostly.
>
I'd wager this attitude is endemic in male-dominated professions like
engineering & the harder sciences, probably caused by a lack of
non-relationship type contact with women. We have an unconsciously
self-regulating system here, where women get driven out by geeky 
behaviour from men, who thus don't get educated out of stereotypes
about women at work. How do we reverse the trends apparent here?

The floor is open to discussion.

PS. Are stereotypes of this sort apparent in female-dominated professions?

Francois.
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: erc@unislc.uucp (Ed Carp)
Subject: Re: What is NOT attractive to "SINGLE" men
X-Newsreader: TIN [version 1.1 PL6]
Organization: Unisys Corporation SLC
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:27:25 GMT

Lauren L. Crawford (crawford@ben.dev.upenn.edu) wrote:

: It seems that while women worry about unacceptable appearance, men worry
: about unacceptable performance -- not just sexual, but in all kinds of
: areas.  Each sex seems to look at the other and say, "Why on earth are you
: worrying about something as trivial as _that_?  You look/did just fine."

I think that's because society programs men, too.  You have to be strong,
tall, capable, with well-defined muscles, or you won't get the woman.  So
says Madison Ave.  Too bad so many women have bought into it, too. <sigh>
-- 
Ed Carp			erc@apple.com, erc@saturn.upl.com	801/538-0177

Who and what would you be if you went beyond your deepest fears?
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: sms@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (steven.m.stein)
Subject: Re: Females have it easy!
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 15:40:39 GMT

In article <JoeMan.7.724562272@> JoeMan@ (Joe Tooman) writes:
>Not to bitch or anything, but it seems to me that the female does not have
>any problem finding a guy anytime she feels like she wants a relationship.
>As a guy, I find that it is very hard to find a female that seems intrested.
>---------
>Joe Tooman
>aa422@cleveland.freenet.edu
>

I have also found this to be somewhat true, BUT,

although women do seem to be approached on a sometime daily or weekly
basis, their problem is weeding through all the offers for a man who
meets their standards.

atleast with us guys, we only approach those we already feel interested
in knowing.  

In other words, women may have to deal with 20 men before she is
approached by one she's attracted to, whereas we could luck out
after the 8th or 9th approach.

                 Steve Stein  (609) 639-2264
    *******************************************************
    *  Just my opinion, though it could change tomorrow   *
    *******************************************************         
Xref: sparky soc.singles:33599 soc.women:21370 soc.men:21002
From: dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men
Subject: Re: Pre-Sex Contract
Date: 11 Dec 1992 18:44:42 GMT
NNTP-Posting-Host: bbn.com

 rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster) writes:

> >Would I announce that I got or will have a vasectomy
> >to the Net?  No.

If alt.tasteless was included in the subject line, then I could say
GIF, GIF, GIF, without feeling silly.  But through some oversight, we
neglected to include them in this discussion.

Dawn

Joseph Campbell gave me hope and now I have been saved.
"Folk Song" by Bongwater
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles
From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster)
Subject: Re: Homme seul, beau, romantique, cherche pour une Femme ...
Organization: The Tickle Palace - Moonyvale, CA
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:44:44 GMT

In article <15873@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Dec12.000113.11268@penet.fi> an2209@anon.penet.fi writes:
>|
>|Bonjour a tous les femmes belles!
>|
>|Comment ca va?
>|
>|Je cherche pour une femme avec beaute, renseignement, et bienveillance.
>|Ca t'interesse?  M'ecrivez s'il vous plait pour une description de moi.
>|
>|Au revoir pour maintenant!
>|
>|Repondez a:  an2209.anon.penet.fi
>|
>|P.S.  Je comprende anglais tres bien.
> 
>Another inside joke?
>

     Actually, I believe that it is an  outcorner putdown.

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Xref: sparky soc.singles:33980 soc.women:21499 soc.men:21205 ba.singles:2636
From: DeadHead@cup.portal.com (Bruce M Ong)
Newsgroups: soc.singles,soc.women,soc.men,ba.singles
Subject: Re: Pre-Sex Contract
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 14:23:48 PST
Organization: The Portal System (TM)
Distribution: ba
  <1992Dec11.155056.16147@amd.com> <1992Dec15.065236.12705@netcom.com>
  <1992Dec15.163407.5960@netcom.com>

>Desiree
>
>
>P.S.  I do have to say that you are the only person in all my years on
>      the net where your personal demeanor matches your net.demeanor.
>      One look at you and I realized that you are an uptight, angry
>      young kid.  

	awww. it takes time to become at ease with life itself and to 
	experience life without rancor... Some of us get rid of our
	existential angst earlier, some later. Give him some time (maybe he 
	only has 2 new age CDs in his collection right now... wait til he has
	got like 50 of those new age CDs and 50 torn contracts on his front 
	door step)

>You are so tightly wound up that you can see the
>      shit oozing between the cracks...

	Ooo my....  ;-)

---
/bruce		"I'm trying to tell you something about my life
		Maybe give me insight between black and white
		The best thing you ever done for me
		Is to help me take my life less seriously
		It's only life after all..." -- Indigo Girls, "Closer to Fine"
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: gadfly@cbnewsi.cb.att.com (Gadfly)
Subject: Re: Over 40 and single....Anyone that "OLD"?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 21:48:04 GMT
Summary: Sorry.

In article <lj1chmINNo8q@news.bbn.com>, dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) 
quotes me:
> > It all depends, of course, how you define yourself.  Many of us
> > whose identity is still colored by the 60s have a hard time
> > forming relationships with people who not only don't know where
> > they were when Kennedy was shot, they didn't even exist yet.

> I know where I was when Kennedy got shot.  My mom, who was eight
> months pregnant with me, was flushing the toilet when the handle
> broke off and slashed her wrist open.  So I was inside of my mother
> in the emergency room as she tried to convince the doctor that she
> hadn't tried to commit suicide and she didn't need to have an emergency
> C-section for psychiatric reasons...
 
> Does that count, Ken, huh, does that count?

We regret to inform you that after careful review, your petition for
membership in the "outasite" generation has been rejected.  You may
appeal this ruling by submitting a written request for review to the
Committee or other, well, stuff that might pique our interest, if you
get my drift, er, that is, our drift.

Pour la Comite' de la Salute' Publique,

               *** ***
Ken Perlow   ***** *****
18 Dec 92   ****** ******   28 Frimaire An CCI
            *****   *****   gadfly@ihspc.att.com
             ** ** ** **
...L'AUDACE!   *** ***   TOUJOURS DE L'AUDACE!  ENCORE DE L'AUDACE!
From: huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Women, Cats, & Chocolate
Date: 20 Dec 1992 14:09:46 GMT
Organization: Express Access Online Communications, Greenbelt, MD USA
NNTP-Posting-Host: access.digex.com

In article <1992Dec17.124123.6948@news.acns.nwu.edu> drmax@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Marianna Max) writes:
}In article <1gpoduINNqva@mirror.digex.com> huston@access.digex.com (Herb Huston) writes:
}>In article <1992Dec14.205235.23250@dgbt.doc.ca> michele@dgbt.doc.ca (Michele Guillet) writes:
}>}I was devastated even more so when after years without pets, I
}>}decided to go back to the allergist and tell him that I had to have
}>}a cat that there must be some breed of cats that I could still breath  
}>}when around. 
}>}
}>}The allergist told me to get a dog.  [...]
}>
}>There are two breeds of cat that can be suitable for folks with allergies.
                                   ^^^ 
}>The Cornish Rex lacks guard hairs (it's sometimes called the Poodle Cat),
}>and the Sphynx is almost naked.  The latter cat was bred in Canada, too,
}>so I'm surprised that your allergist was unaware of it.
}
}It's my understanding that it is a protein in the cat's saliva that causes
}the allergy problem for most people. The cat licks itself and the protein
                         ^^^^
}is left on hair and skin so I dont' think a hairless cat is the answer.
                                                             ^^^

However, it might be *an* answer.  The saliva is used to smooth down the guard
hairs and to prevent overheating.  It's my guess that the Cornish Rex and the
Sphynx have less of a need to use saliva in this fashion.  The former lacks
the outer coat of guard hairs, and the middle coat of awn hairs can't be
smoothed (hence the comparison to a poodle).  The Sphynx's problem is with
overcooling, not overheating.  Nevertheless, I suppose these cats could engage
in licking as a vacuum activity.  The fact is that neither is a particularly
new breed (the Cornish Rex was developed about 40 years ago, the Sphynx about
25 years ago), and *some* people who are allergic to cats have reported a
favorable non-reaction.

}                                                                         I
}have a vague memory of reading about a mediation that when given to the
}cat, surpressed the manufacture of this protein without hurting the
}cat.....Anyone out there know anything about this?

No, but my information is about 5 years old.

[I'm leaving on a one-week vacation today, and I will not be checking either
email or Usenet while I'm away.]

-- Herb Huston
-- huston@access.digex.com
From: smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM (Nina S. Smith - SunSoft Product Marketing)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Date: 16 Dec 1992 22:11:40 GMT
Organization: Sun Microsystems
Distribution: world
Reply-To: smith@wesson.Eng.Sun.COM
NNTP-Posting-Host: wesson

In article 15914@auspex-gw.auspex.com, johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>In article <1992Dec15.190223.22158@cbnewsk.cb.att.com> krw@cbnewsk.cb.att.com (keith.r.smith) writes:
>>In article <15904@auspex-gw.auspex.com> johnf@Auspex.COM (John Fereira) writes:
>
	(Lotsa stuff deleted)
>
>|Have you never met
>|a female-just-friend-co-worker after work for a coupla' drinks?
>
>Yes, but she wasn't a co-worker.
>
>| Was she a cheap, sleazy hussy?
>
>No, she paid her share for the drinks.

Right answer!!!  Yes, we each bought a round eh?  And, whoa!
unbelievable . . . it didn't kill me!
 
>| Is she reading this?  :-)

She *is* now!

>Probably, and I suspect I'm about to get a phone call.

John you WORM!!!  I didn't call you that when I rang you.  Thought
I'd do it in net.public instead!  You knew that was coming though,
didn't you? 

>-- 
>+==========================================================================+
>| John Fereira        | Auspex Systems | "Ask me about my vow of silence." |
>| johnf@auspex.com    | Santa Clara CA |                                   |
>+==========================================================================+

-- Nina


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: julie@cucbs.chem.columbia.edu (Julie Wright)
Subject: Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?
Organization: The Cultural Elite
	<1992Dec10.230728.13514@cbnewsk.cb.att.com>
	<1992Dec11.014850.11707@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 00:03:08 GMT

jsmt@troi.cc.rochester.edu (Julia Smith) writes:

>Keith, don't you have any classes with women?  Do you have no
>work relationships with women?  You sound like the only contact
>with the female gender you get is when you are looking for a mate.
>Pretty sad.  I work in a dept in which I am the only women.  If I
>restrict my colleagueship (including going out for drinks, including
>socializing at parties with colleagues and wives), I would have a
>pretty lonely life.  I'm blissfully pleased you don't work with me -
>that kind of attitude, even in small doses, would be enough to drive me
>right out.

<sigh>  I think this is happening to me.  Several guys in my field
aren't like that, but an awful lot of them are, and most of the physical
chemists in the country are men.  I just can't imagine living my whole
life feeling like a freak and an outcast at work.  It's a lot easier 
to get another job than to change a huge set of people, and I can't 
seem to manage to be happy with work in this situation.  Oh well, 
their loss.  Mostly.

>News Flash - Women are PEOPLE, not just potential mates or partners.

What she said!

---Julie
-- 
%  I wonder why it is that when I plan a route too carefully it      %
%  goes to pieces, whereas if I blunder along in blissful ignorance  %
%  aimed in a fancied direction I get through with no trouble.       %
%                      --- John Steinbeck (_Travels with Charley_)   %
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: jjd1@cbnewsg.cb.att.com (james.j.dutton)
Subject: Re: Attraction -> Acquiantance or vice versa?
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 14:03:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.195349.41537@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu> jm0i@ns1.cc.lehigh.edu (JOSEPH ALOYSIUS MCVEIGH) writes:
>Sorry to butt in, but I thought I could contribute $0.02.
>I'm involved in several of these "friendships" right now. The means of initial
>introduction has been pretty much inconsequential. I've approached, been
>approached, met at work, and been introduced by friends, all leading to the
>"yes and no" brand of quasi-friendship. The only common element is that none
>of the women involved have cats...
>

Talk about eerie. If that doesn't prove there's an afterlife I'm not
sensitive.
 
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Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: smith@comm.mot.com (Jeff Smith)
Subject: Re: Giving and Receiving
Organization: Gagging Sloth Records
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 21:29:30 GMT

In article <lis6s8INN225@news.bbn.com>, dhardin@bbn.com (Dawn Hardin) writes:

|> I used to bake bread for all the people that I couldn't decide if I owed
|> them Christmas gifts or not.  Now that I'm so time challenged I won't be
|> doing that.  I gave flowers to people last year, but I was surprised that
|> they didn't go over so well.

Really?  Why not?

Must have been *damn* good bread!


jds

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From: m1bfg00@fed.frb.gov (Bruce F. Gilsen)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Picking up the Tab (was: Re: What is gold-digging?)
Date: 19 Dec 92 21:03:00 GMT
Reply-To: m1bfg00@fed.frb.gov (Bruce F. Gilsen)
Organization: Federal Reserve Board, Wash, DC

As someone who has done almost all of the asking for first dates, 
I've tried various approaches to picking up the tab, and have 
settled on the following.

I usually suggest dinner at a mutually agreeable restaurant that's 
not too expensive (ethnic food is usually the best combination of 
interesting and moderate price in my area).  This isn't because I'm
cheap, but because this gives the woman the option of offering to split
the cost even if she's somewhat economically challenged.  When the 
check arrives, any offer to split the cost is immediately accepted, 
since this seems very egalitarian to me.  If she doesn't offer to pay,
then I take out my credit card and say something like the following,
"This one's on me, and you can take care of the next one, okay?"  
I've never had a woman say no, though in many cases we never got to
the second date.  By the way, if the woman offered to pay the tip, I'd 
respectfully decline and still take out my credit card as above, 
because I don't feel comfortable establishing an implied precedent that
I'm doing most of the paying.

Bruce    m1bfg00@fed.frb.gov
Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: bob@netcom.com (Bob Becker)
Subject: Re: Okay, what *is* that view? (was: Re: Pre-Sex Contract)
Organization: Netcom - Online Communication Services  (408 241-9760 guest) 
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:16:02 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.060012.6265@hplabsz.hpl.hp.com> howeird@hpl.hp.com (Howard Stateman) writes:
>
>I suspect that the number of men obsessed with sex is a far greater
>percentage of the population than the number of women obsessed with sex.
>And the numbe of women who value intimacy more than sex is far greater than
>the number of men in that category. If you accept this theory, then you
>would also accept the generalization that men and women view sex
>differently, on the whole.
                     ^^^^^
Did you misspell that, Howard?


Newsgroups: soc.singles
From: xanadu@t-bone.cs.unlv.edu (Thomas Wilson)
Subject: Re: Homme seul, beau, romantique, cherche pour une Femme ...
Organization: UNLV
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:52:20 GMT

In article <1992Dec12.072911.1@woods.ulowell.edu>  
richardc@woods.ulowell.edu writes:
> In article <1992Dec12.000113.11268@penet.fi>, an2209@anon.penet.fi  
writes:
> > X-Anon-To: alt.personals,soc.penpals,soc.singles
> >
>   Allow me to correct some grammatical mistakes.
>          (corrections are not guaranteed)
> 
>  
> > Bonjour a tous les femmes belles!
> > (Bonjour tous les belles femmes!)
> 
> > Comment ca va?
> > 
> > Je cherche pour une femme avec beaute, renseignement, et  
bienveillance.
> > Ca t'interesse?  M'ecrivez s'il vous plait pour une description de  
moi.
> > (Je cherche une femme avec la beaute, l'intelligence, et la  
bienveillance.
>    Ca vous interesse?  Si oui, s'il vous plait ecrivez-moi pour vous
>    procurer une designation de moi.)
> 
> > Au revoir pour maintenant!
> > 
> > Repondez a:  an2209.anon.penet.fi
> > 
> > P.S.  Je comprende anglais tres bien.
> > 
>   Also, an2209@anon.penet.fi writes in article:  ATTN CYNTHIA:
> 
>    "Je besoin votre addresse devant j'ecrivez-vous."
>   Let's try:
>    (J'aurai besoin de votre adresse avant je pourrai vous ecrivez.)
> 
>     Thanks for your time even if you think "ca ne fait rien".
>  
No comprendo, senor! ]-) 
                                                          
> >  
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> > To find out more about the anon service, send mail to  
help@anon.penet.fi.
> > Please note you _don't_ have to have an anon id to receive anonymous  
mail!
Newsgroups: soc.singles,ba.singles,alt.romance
From: rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster)
Subject: Re: TygerBoink Results
Organization: The Tickle Palace - Moonyvale, CA
Distribution: usa
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 07:07:44 GMT

In article <184533@pyramid.pyramid.com> mwoo@pyrnova.pyramid.com (Margaret Woo) writes:
>In article <1992Dec6.114351.26486@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster) writes:
>>
>>     Second, the following is my recollections about what occured at the
>>Boink.  I am sure that others will be able to add a lot more information.
>>
>>     St. James was an interesting and loud place.  They played a
>
>>Right before the Boinkers left, there was an interesting incident which
>>others can describe.
>
>Wait!  Did I miss something???  Was it the reason the police showed up???
>
>Margaret
>

     Actually, that was the reason that the Army and Navy showed up.  (:

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From: martinc@grover.cs.unc.edu (Charles R. Martin)
Newsgroups: soc.singles
Subject: Re: Size 8? (Re: What is NOT attractive to "SINGLE" men)
Date: 13 Dec 92 02:57:11 GMT
	<1992Dec12.214837.24675@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> <7901@news.duke.edu>
Distribution: usa
Organization: UNC Department of Computer Science
In-reply-to: diamond@acpub.duke.edu's message of 12 Dec 92 22:34:50 GMT

In article <7901@news.duke.edu> diamond@acpub.duke.edu (Elizabeth Abrams) writes:

   Trygve, I have the greatest confidence that you (and Charlie too, for
   that matter) could survive this kind of treatment for quite some time.
   Perhaps a woman could more effectively torture the two of you by
   *refusing* to sit on your ribcages for a couple of hours?  

So *that's* what's going on?  Gee what'd I do to make you want to
torture me?

(Tryg, it must of been both of us -- I don't think she's been sitting on
either of our ribcages....)
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