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From: manu@tigger.Colorado.EDU (Njan)
Subject: Re: soc.culture.tamil some suggestion
Organization: University of Colorado, Boulder
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 21:22:26 GMT

In article <1992Apr14.164444.1@ulkyvx.louisville.edu> j0srin01@ulkyvx.louisville.edu writes:
>	Hey!! Lets get a step further. How about Soc.culture.madras???!!!

I think we should have a soc.culture.indian.your_language group... at least,
soc.culture.indian.malayalam... hmm...  maybe we should start forming
groups too... like malayalee student association or something? The Indian
student associations are a waste of time, as I have found out myself...

Njan
From: hdeshma@eos.ncsu.edu (HARSHAVARDHAN  DESHMANE)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: CITY OF JOY:my opinion
Date: 16 Apr 92 20:21:35 GMT
Followup-To: soc.culture.indian
Organization: NCSU Project Eos

In article <odvQRgi00WBL84vHUX@andrew.cmu.edu> jr55+@andrew.cmu.edu (Jyothi Rengarajan) writes:
>
>   I sat through Roland Joffe's City of Joy at Pittsburgh and felt anger
>and irritation among other things. It is, not surprisingly, a
>condescending, patronising and self-important depiction, loosely based
>on Lapiere's novel of the same name.
[stuff deleted]
>hot-blooded doctor who finds the meaning of life through all of the
>above. How deep, how profound. We, as Indians should all be grateful to
>Joffe for teaching us these important lessons about our country.
>
>   

you have said a lot, but what was the point?
this isnt a flame... just wondering at the bitterness i sense here.

-harsh
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vr@cs.brown.edu (Viswanath Ramachandran)
Subject: Re: INDIAN MEN and MARRIAGE
Organization: Brown Computer Science Dept.
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 8 Apr 1992 19:56:01 GMT

In article <1992Apr7.235931.20578@udel.edu>, suresh@fred.cis.udel.edu (Swaminathan Sureshchandran) writes:
|> In article <1992Apr7.232722.2708@menudo.uh.edu> potturi@cs.uh.edu (Rahi Prakash Potturi) writes:
|> >"An Indian Independent woman" writes:
|> ><I have read many debates on the net reg.
|> ><arranged vs love marriage and was amused that
|> 
|> Did you notice that the Woman from Independent India did not have the guts
			   ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
	She claimed to be an independent woman from India not a woman from
	Independent India (isn't all of India independent ? :-))
 
|> to reveal her identity (assuming it was a genuine post)?

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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: pnayak@cs.umn.edu (Prafull D. Nayak)
Subject: ** APARTMENT FOR SALE _ BANDRA WEST< BOMBAY **
Organization: University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, CSci dept.
Date: Sat, 11 Apr 1992 00:27:55 GMT


 Apartment for sale. Area 425 sqft. 2nd Floor facing south west.
Self contained. Excellent location and neighbourhood. Best schools,
theatres, Market and shopping. Easy access to public transportation.
Close to Seashore. Cosmopolitan building. Email for price which
is negotiable or contact (408)-867-9436.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: kortikar@mipos2.intel.com (Kortikar)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Any BAMS Graduates from Bombay (Podar/Mittal/Sion) or Pune ?
Date: 30 Mar 92 19:40:29 GMT
Reply-To: kortikar@mipos2.intel.com (Kortikar)
Organization: Microprocessor Component Group, Intel Corp., Santa Clara, CA

Hi

I would like to get in touch with BAMS Graduates who have done their course
from Bombay/Pune or other colleges in Maharashtra.

Anyone on this section of net ?

Aniruddha Kortikar (kortikar@mipos2.intel.com)

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.rights.human
From: chohan@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Harpal Chohan)
Subject: Re: Urgent Appeal - Justice Bains Arrested and Beaten
Organization: The Ohio State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:31:12 GMT

In article <1992Apr16.214245.15693@news.miami.edu> sodhi@news.miami.edu (Rajpal Sodhi) writes:
>In article <1992Apr13.165831.2265@doug.cae.wisc.edu> budaraju@cae.wisc.edu (Srinivas Budaraju) writes:
>>
>>        ******************************************
>>        *   JUSTICE BAINS ARRESTED AND BEATEN    *
>>        ******************************************
>> 
>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>-Srinivas					budaraju@cae.wisc.edu
>
>the absence of the otherwise omnipresent 'condemnation' on SCI is
>startling indeed!!

It indeed is...

-h
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: sumedha@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Sonali P Talwalkar)
Subject: ARATI ANKALIKAR-TIKEKAR concert in Milwaukee
Originator: sumedha@csd4.csd.uwm.edu
Organization: Computing Services Division, University of Wisconsin - Milwaukee
Distribution: wi
Date: Fri, 10 Apr 1992 18:41:27 GMT

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                     India Music Society, Milwaukee 
                                
                                presents

                              VOCAL recital   

                                    by  

                        A R A T I   A N K A L I K A R     
                        - - - - -   - - - - - - - - -     
                              

                    Date    :  Friday, April 10th, 1992 
                    Time    :  8:00 pm 
                    Place   :  North Shore Presbyterian Church  
                               4048 N. Bartlett Ave.   
                                   
                    Tickets :  General  ... $12 
                               Members  ... $10
                               Students ... $6 
           

             For ticket reservations and more information, 
             please call : Saroj Kulkarni -- (414)351-5619
             or send me e-mail -- sumedha@csd4.csd.uwm.edu                  



"A musical talent seldom seen among artists of her age" was the way Arati 
Ankalikar was described at the time she won the first place award in a national
competition for Indian Classical Music in 1982. Since then, Arati has become 
one of the most sought after artists by the organizers of classical music 
programs and festivals all over India. 

With her fertile imagination, and disciplined and rigorous practice, Arati has
absorbed the richness of the three gharanas (Agra, Jaipur, and Gwalior) of 
singing khayals and has evolved an appealing style of her own. She is also 
impressive in rendering the light classical forms such as bhajan and thumri.             
  
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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ankur@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ankur Bhikhu Patel)
Subject: Re: The Hindu Population in USA
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 7 Apr 1992 07:08:41 GMT

Somewhere on SCI rot@mickie.id.macsch.com writes:

>In article <1992Apr3.083602.31214@wpi.WPI.EDU> ankur@wpi.WPI.EDU (Ankur Bhikhu Patel) writes:

>>Donno about the whole Hindu population, but according to a newsletter of
>>the Organization of North American Gujarati Associations (1990), the 
>>population of Gujaratis in the states that have structured Gujju communities
>>was estimated at 120,000 + .  I think that this figure only considered GC
>>holders and citizens of US. 98%, if not all, of these would be Hindus.
>
>A large number of Gujratis are Jains, atleast the ones I know.

	That may be true in Gujarat (I would even question that), NOT in the
	U.S.  Open your local telephone directory, you should have the answer.

>>So, I think it's a safe bet that the total Hindu population in US would be
>>atleast 250,000 + (assuming there is 1 non-Gujju Hindu per 1 Gujju) in 1990.
>
>Are half the Hindu Indians in the US of Gujrati origin?
>That sounds like a very high proportion!

	You may be right here. However, my estimate was based upon what I had 
	seen in Tennessee, Georgia, Alabama, S and N Carolina, Florida, 
	Mississippi, and Louisiana during late 80's. The situation may be 
	changed, now (NOT according to my parents who still attend almost
	every Indian Community socials in TN, GA, AL, NC. You see, they are
	retired and have the time and enthu to go to these things)  I still
	see the same trend (1/2-1/2) in Boston area socials.  Now, I realize
	that many don't go to these things. Would not be surprised about the
	high proportion of Gujjus, considering that almost 30,000 emigrate 
	every year from Bombay Airport, a lot more than any other airport as
	far as emigration goes.

>Rohit

	--ankur patel.


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Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ram@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Ram Devanathan)
Subject: Re: Marriage and related issues - My view
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 22:16:53 GMT

In article <1992Apr12.161141.6943@uoft02.utoledo.edu> grx0751@uoft02.utoledo.edu writes: ...
>	For men and women to be treated as equals in a marriage, it is crucial
>	that both have economic independence. When one partner depends on the
>	other for sustenance, IMO, the bread-winning partner is justified in
>	sidelining the other's point of view in case of a conflict, in taking 
>	decisions that affect the family as a whole; I know I will get flamed 
>	for this, but convince me why it should not be so, instead of telling
>	me what a chauvinist I am without backing up your view.
>...	Discussions welcome,
>	Siva Prasad.			(grx0751@uoft02.utoledo.edu)

The phrase "When one partner depends on another for sustenance" could mean:
a) One partner is a complete invalid or
b) One partner doesn't earn money but instead stays home taking care of
   cooking, laundry and other activities which can be labelled "home-making".
     In the case of a), what you are saying is acceptable.
In scenario b), the partner who stays home provides services that are
essential for running the family. In such a family, the partners have
assumed (or have been forced into) roles that complement each other.
The partners depend on and benefit from each other. It would, therefore,
be dishonest for one partner to claim more importance, or as you
suggest sole importance, for his or her role in the family. 
Besides, marriage is founded on love (the feeling not the act). As
Michael Bolton asks, how can two people be lovers if they can't be
friends? How can two people be friends if one of them sidelines the
other while making decisions that affect both of them?
From: vijay@wiliki.eng.hawaii.edu (Vijay Fafat)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Gandhi vs Ghaendi
Date: 7 Apr 92 19:53:52 GMT
Article-I.D.: news.1992Apr7.195352.7637
Organization: University of Engineering, College of Engineering

>*
>*I didnt know `Gandhi' won any oscars.  But I do Know `Ghaendi' won 9.
>*Ask anyone in this country who follows the movie scene. They will confirm
>*what I wrote above.
>
>*Seetamraju, Uday Bhaskar Sarma
>*(email : seetam @ ss0 . eng . wayne . edu)

*This news is interesting !!!. Did'nt Richard Attenborough's GANDHI
*win 9 oscars ?? In which country are u in ? USA ? Then how come .....
*.....?

*Cheers,

*Ramkumar 

*PS : BTW, who acted in GHAENDI ???? 
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     Hey Raam,
       This idiot from Australia, after all his gaffes and sanctimoniousness
on Rec.sport.cricket, has decided to turn his attention to SCI!.
    Mr. Ramkumar, are you SO dumb as not to get the meaning of the original post
by Uday and Seetamraju?? With all the posts on the "Indian" vs "American" 
accent, you should be able to get the trend. Again, check your sentence 
construction, "IN which country are you IN" :-).  
   Try flooding my mail box. I'm reminded of Asbestos Anish :-)

------ Loose character (Mr. Ramkumar, YOU were the one to confuse "lose"
and "Loose" on RSC, right? Could'nt resist this one :-)
From: gnreddy@cbnewsf.cb.att.com (G.Narotham Reddy)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Any updates on the fate of our folks in Libya ??
Date: 15 Apr 92 12:19:25 GMT
Organization: AT&T


As we all know U.N. sanctions against Libya take effect today.

According to this morning's AIR news, Indian Embassy in Tripoli
has no word about the fate of Indians stranded there.  There are
about 15,000 Indians working in that country, the report said.

May be our present govt enjoys good personal rapport with Moammar
Gaddafi ?

Any news updates would be appreciated.

Narotham
gnreddy@cbnewsf.att.com
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian,soc.culture.bangladesh,soc.culture.pakistan
From: rags@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Raghavan Jayaraman)
Subject: Re: Piddlers on the Roof
Organization: Northwestern University, Evanston, Illinois
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 21:09:45 GMT

In article <Ydu8WGC00VB=58yltY@andrew.cmu.edu> "Arun K. Gupta" <ag3l+@andrew.cmu.edu> writes:
>
>
>As far as the writers in the "Muslim Situation in India"
>cleverly targetting their audience -- I came across the
>book in an obscure corner of the library only because I
>was in an argument (with a Pakistani) and seeking data
>to justify my claim that there are substantial numbers
>of Muslims in the Indian Armed Forces. [incidentally
>the intake of new recruits is 2% Muslim is what I found].
>
>Some clever targetting !!!!
>
>And as for me naively believing all that these writers
>have written -- I have my own viewpoint which I've tried
>to keep out (it shows in my selection of essays, however).
>
>I'm also very aware of just how many Hindus I'm annoying
          ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>by posting these articles. And frankly,I don't give a
                                ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>damn !
^^^^^^^
>
>-arun gupta
>ag3L@andrew.cmu.edu

Very scholarly prediction. Who gives a damn that you don't give a damn?

raghavan

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: rps@cbnewsh.cb.att.com (raj.sharma)
Subject: Re: INDIAN WOMEN & MARRIAGE
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: usa
Date: Thu, 9 Apr 1992 13:04:26 GMT


>  blasted Indian men in ... Now is the time to criticise Indian women...


Yeah, let's criticize every one and every thing:

	
	Nindak neare rakhiye aangan kuti chavay,
	Bin paani saabun bina nirmal kare swabhava.
	
	
		[disclaimer: not a flame on Nirmal, whoever (s)he may be.]
		
		
---raj
Xref: sparky soc.culture.indian:14328 soc.culture.bangladesh:2402 soc.culture.pakistan:6478
From: gt5013a@prism.gatech.EDU (Dhaval Anilkumar Vasavada)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: LOOKING FOR PRAKASH PANJWANI
Keywords: Prakash Panjwani
Date: 14 Apr 92 00:36:17 GMT
Distribution: usa
Organization: Georgia Institute of Technology

I am looking for a high school friend of mine from Baroda, Gujarat. His
name is PRAKASH PANJWANI and we went to Vidyakunj High School together.
I have lost contact with him since we both emigrated to the US in 1989.
Any friend of his who reads this and has contacts with him please pass
on this message to him. 
 
Prakash, you can get in touch with me at:

		35013 GEORGIA TECH. STN.
		ATLANTA, GA 30332.
		Ph. (404) 676-0458

	My e-mail address is gt5013a@prism.gatech.edu

Thank you for your help. Prakash, if you read this - HI! Long time no see
or hear!
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: aseem@wpi.WPI.EDU (Aseem Bansal)
Subject: NEED INFO ON GETTING multiple H1
Keywords: Quebec
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 1992 23:29:26 GMT


Hi:

Can someone tell me ehat is the procedure of getting a multiple H1

at quebec and the documnets required, on what days consulate issues

such visas.  Also, if there is any reasonable accomodation available

near the consulate.


Thanks a lot for your help.


send me email at aseem@wpi.wpi.edu 

-aseem
From: sunand@skat.usc.edu (Sunand Gajjala)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: names and how they match the person.
Date: 11 Apr 1992 09:28:27 -0700
Organization: University of Southern California, Los Angeles, CA
Distribution: world
NNTP-Posting-Host: skat.usc.edu

Article 714 of misc.news.southasia:

>New Delhi April 10 (PTI):
>Lt General of BTFK, Gurbhej Singh alias Bheja, who masterminded most
                     ^^^^^^^       ^^^^^^^^^^^      ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>of the explosions in the Taran Taran belt to blow up security
>forces' vehicles and four other militants were killed in a six
>hour long encounter in Taran Taran dist today.

The above news item is picked up from misc.news.southasia
What was interesting about this was that the name gurbhej alias bheja
was the mastermind. This is what living upto his name means.

Names which do not suit the person ( All these names are from Hyderabad)

1.Sulochana :(meaning beautifuul(?) eyes) and this person I know
             is one-eyed and squint from birth.
2.Kanthamma :(glowing, meaning very fair(?)) this person was as
             dark or even darker than me.;)
3.gopal:(meaning cowherd) This is me. I am/was not one.

4.subhasini:(talking nice things) you guessed it.

5.sathamma : (always talking truth) How many can live upto this name?

Also, there is a radha married to a rama. rukmini married to a krishna.
Janaki married to venkateshwar.

I do not know how many of us would like to keep the names that our parents
give but I feel that once the person is about 16 years, he must be given
a choice to either keep the given name or change to whatever he wants.

Any comments ?

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: ibcgca@gsusgi2.gsu.edu (Gloria Aichel)
Subject: From an Indian Independent Woman
Summary: Mama's boys and"Extended Childhood"
Organization: Georgia State University
Date: Fri, 17 Apr 1992 17:55:31 GMT

I have interacted with enough Indian men to diagnose a serious
malady called "extended childhood".  For most people childhood
is followed by youth and maturity where individuality and decision
making powers become prominent.  But Indian men in the US have
defied this rule by fervently clinging on to childhood where parents
made all the major decisions in their lives.
      Most of these children have no clue of what they really want
from life and in a life partner.  From liking a girl to commitment
is a long agonizing step that rarely materializes.  They keep on
harping on an illusive concept of "complete compatibility" which is
just an excuse to escape from facing up to their feelings.
      Then these "children" go th India and as soon as MAMA recommends
a girl, the divine light shines through.  Eveything falls in place,
Compatibilty is achieved in hours, lifetime decisions are made in
days, and the "children" are rewarded with candy for their obedience.
I think all Indian men need to applaud themselves for displaying such
maturity, courage and decision making power

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From: dharma@verdix.com (Manjeri Dharmarajan)
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Re: Response to INDIAN MEN ..
Date: 13 Apr 92 06:06:33 GMT
Article-I.D.: verdix.4511
Reply-To: dharma@VERDIX.COM (Manjeri Dharmarajan)
Organization: Verdix Western Operations; Aloha, OR

In article <MdttYEG00WBO847e8W@andrew.cmu.edu> sn00+@andrew.cmu.edu (Sudha Neelakantan) writes:
>And how many MEN would feel comfortable enough around a more succesful
>woman to actually be an adequate SO who doesn't just give one a guilt
>trip or whatever.  
>I personally wouldn't have any problems with any of these things as long
>as they weren't a source of insecurity for the other person.

You know, that's why all us guys demand great-looking babes for wives. I mean,
how many ugly women would feel comfortable around great looking guys like me to
actually be an adequate SO who doesn't just give one a guilt trip or whatever.

Thanks for this brilliant excuse, Sudha. I can now discriminate as I please,
and tell the victim I'm doing it because of their insecurities!!!! Wow!!!

>>3. How many would love a man whose real income is way below her?
>
>In todays sexist world are the above even remote possibilities? Women on
>the average  earn 60% of what men earn.  So your question is totally
>unwarranted  Your questions are objectionable since women simply aren't
>in the position to discriminate in the ways you mention.

You're right, Sudha. The number of women who make more than I do can be counted
on one hand. I mean, I'm sure Elle MacPhearson, Madonna, Martina Navratilova,
Christine Heffner, and Meryl Streep make only 60% of what I make. All those
women who are successful lawyers, doctors; in high positions in Govt., or 
management; highly successful actresses, authors, models etc must be really
dumb to be working for 60% of my salary. Here's a great tip, guys. The next
time you have to see a doctor or lawyer, go to a woman. You'll only have to pay
$10 an hour!

>>4. How many would love a man who is much shorter than her?????
>> 
>>Many of these so called independent women use double standards. 
>
>really?
>

Of course not. When a man demands a beautiful wife, he's an oppressive pig.
When a woman demands a richer, taller husband, she's doing it for his own
good.

	Dharmarajan
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: vijay@ncsa.uiuc.edu (Vijay Rangarajan)
Subject: Re: Soc.Culture.Tamil
Originator: vijay@picard.ncsa.uiuc.edu
Organization: Nat'l Ctr for Supercomp App (NCSA) @ University of Illinois
Date: Wed, 15 Apr 1992 18:06:10 GMT

In article <1992Apr15.163723.29942@watserv1.waterloo.edu> mvishnu@morse.waterloo.edu (m vishnu) writes:
>
>I think it is a great idea to start soc.culture.tamil.  It is long
>

Yep, I guess we could follow the guidelines necessary to form a newsgroup
and if enough people vote for it, establish it.
(to put words into vote).

>Neither Indians nor Sri-lankans have to fear that creation of sct is a
>precursor to the separitism.  Dividing a newsgroups for convenience 

Whoever mentioned separatism, must've been kidding. Since when has the
unity of the nation depended on opinions in sci ?

>Using SCI is like using a single notebook for all the courses, quite an
>unmanageable affair.
>
>Meenan Vishnu
From: TAZ@psuvm.psu.edu
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
Subject: Indians Protest Libyan sanctions
Date: 16 Apr 92 14:07:38 GMT
Organization: Penn State University

This morning's newspaper had a picture of people burning G. Bush's effigy
in front of Jama Masjid in New Delhi to protest the sanctions against Libya.
They were carrying signs of 'Down with US, UK and France'. I wonder if this is
why India rather abstained from the vote in the security council.
Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian
From: Mohan Shah <mbshah@copper.ucs.indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: GUJJU JOKES - AN OBSERVATION
Keywords: GUJJU JOKES
Organization: Indiana University
Date: Sun, 12 Apr 1992 10:53:18 -0500

In article <atulpule.703049034@cunews> atulpule@alfred.carleton.ca (Ajit Tulpule) writes:
>
>I dont know how far this is true, but looking at   all the
>controversy and bad temper about gujju jokes, I think that
>only those  who have ever  lived in  Bombay   and its free
>cosmopolitan environment can truely appreciate a "Gujju" joke.

Let some new, fresh and lively "gujju" jokes come on the s.c.i.
Urgently needed to create a friendly, healthy atmosphere.

Newsgroups: soc.culture.indian