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From: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
Subject: RE: aPost subject [PittsBurg ???]> a
Organization: Clark University
Date: 5 JAN 93 00:27:13 GMT

In a previous article, krb@hpuerca.atl.hp.com (Kevin Barnes) wrote:
>Well Enough about last weeks games. We now need to get focused on Pittsburg.
>Could someone please post the injury situation in P-Burg.
>I'm really looking forward to Saturday I think this game will be great!
>I hope P-burgs. starting Qb is ready to play, Brister seems to not have it
>all together but then Reich is a backup too.

I don't know, Brister has actually played well in the last two games (against
Minnesota and Cleveland), but I hope O'Donnell will be able to start. He 
deserves another shot at the Bills. It will definitely be a great game!

As far as I know, the only pending injury question is O'Donnell's. He has 
been practicing with the team for the past few days, and the Steelers are 
expected to name Saturday's starter by Tuesday.

-		
Bart "Webb" Tilney	
Email: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
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From: punjabi@leland.Stanford.EDU (sanjeev punjabi)
Subject: Re: NFL Labor Accord Reached
Organization: DSG, Stanford University, CA 94305, USA
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 93 17:24:35 GMT

In article <1993Jan7.171736.5976@leland.Stanford.EDU> punjabi@leland.Stanford.EDU (sanjeev punjabi) writes:
>I want to clarify the concept of a restricted free agent.
>Does this Labor Agreement define a restricted free agent as a player without a
>contract and with at least 3 years & not more than 5 years of NFL experience?
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From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Run and shoot in the foot..
Date: 4 Jan 1993 16:47:18 GMT
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In article <1i9nf7INNbaq@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cc971@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Stephen  C. Fitch) writes:
 >
 >
 >I should imagine that the Oilers arre going to have to
 >"Run or be shot" when they get back the Houston, Tx.
 
Ya pretty much true. I saw Jack Pardee on his show at 10:30 last night
and he just sat there with a sort of grin on his face. IMHO he doesn't 
have a clue.....

 >Maybe they'll all arive back in Houston in disguise, you'll
 >be able to spot them they'll look like Bills fans.
 >I'd love to hear what the Houston Chronicle has to say about
 >their performance?

The Chronicle Sports section headline in three inch block letters;
"CHOKE"
The papers, radio shows and TV shows trashed em last night and I don't
think the fans are even getting started.

Best quote:
KTRH (740) Fan feedback after the game:

Caller: What time is the Oilers charter comming in ?
KTRH:   Why ? you got a couple cases of old vegetables ?
KTRH:   Don't forget they scan for weapons at the airport...

 >Ah, I can't believe it, a stunned Oilers fan from across the pond.
 >
 >Go Dallas...
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From: jmd@cbnewsm.cb.att.com (joseph.m.dakes)
Subject: Re: Eagles Victory...
Organization: AT&T
Distribution: na
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 20:01:39 GMT

In article <1i9qa1INNk95@gazette.bcm.tmc.edu>, skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Timothy B. Reynolds) writes:
> Think again homey, Emmitt gonna romp and Emmitt gonna stomp.....
> I guess that thrashing we gave you on Nov 1 slipped your mind, 
> Emmitt 163 yards, Play like yesterday and it's gonna be a long 
> long day...Hell in the first game we turned the ball over four times
> and were still in the game late.

Strange air down there in Dallas.  They think winning 20-10 is a
thrashing while losing 31-7 is a ballgame.

Need I remind you that Emmitt got the majority of his 163-yards in
the fourth quarter?  The Eagles defense was tired becasue they were
on the field the entire first half.  A first half which saw the
mighty Dallas offense score all of three points.  And need I also
remind you that the score should have been 14-10 Eagles late in the
third quarter?  Only the refs blew the TD call.  And do you really
want the Eagles to play like they did yesterday?  If you think
Hebert looked bad under pressure wait until you see Aikman.  Like
you said above, he turned the ball over four times against the
GANG GREEN's pressure in the first meeting.

> DALLAS COWBOYS
> NFC EAST CHAMPIONS
> RESTED AND READY !!!!

And may I add, led by a quarterback who has never won a playoff game.
Gawd this is going to be a fun week!


E-A-G-L-E-S

Joe Dakes
AT&T Microelectronics
555 Union Boulevard
Allentown, PA  18103
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From: cscdc@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Dan Carpenter)
Subject: Re: Steelers
Organization: Educational Computing Network
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 03:39:34 GMT

In article <1993Jan6.012516.1602@PacBell.COM> jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN) writes:
>In article <ofGUADi00VAyM4kkxi@andrew.cmu.edu> mt0p+@andrew.cmu.edu (Mohd Z. Tuah) writes:
>>I'm not a Buffalo fans but I think the Steelers may have problems
>>containing Beebe and Thomas.  After an incredible comeback last week, 
>>look for the Buffaloes to win.  Steelers secondary is not as good as
>>many people thought.
>>
>>Zaidi
>>
>Okay, I don't normally predict :-), but the Bills will lose.
>Why? The Bills played their BEST EVER against the Oilers.
>
>In the event my prediction is wrong...:-), then I predict 
>the Bills will win in an emotional, thrilling last second
>TD to win. Then will die! :-)

I haven't heard, but if Pittsburgh  doesn't have O'Donnell-QB (sp?), I
don't think they will win.  I think it may be a close game again, but
not so high of total score.

Dan


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From: thyat@sdf.lonestar.org (Tom Hyatt)
Subject: Re: winners of this weeks games
Organization: sdf public access Unix, Dallas -- 214-436-3281
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 08:25:25 GMT

In article <916ZwB1w165w@netlink.cts.com> surf@netlink.cts.com (Tony Rosa) writes:
>my predictions (I was 4-0 last week(not posted)) in caliente
>

Unfortunately, this week you go 1-3. 

>bolts vs. fish > bolts lines will dominate both sides of the game.  
>Chargers by 10
>
Miami 31-0. Bolts looked like week 4 all over again. <grr>


>Buffalo vs. pitt > Reich looks better than Kelly did at almost any time 
>this year.  Bills D steps it up.  Pittsburgh misfiring.  Bills by 5
>

It was a bit more than 5, (Bills win 24-3) but Reich does look good.

>Eagles vs. 'boys > definately game of the day.  Eagles D too strong.  
>Should be close.  Philly by three in o.t.
>

Who woulda thunk this one being a blowout as it was? Boyz win 34-10.
Eagles get a whole 10 yards (!) during the 2nd-3rd quarters.

>Skins vs. 49ers > Skins will pull upset of the week.  Waters will go 
>crazy. Washington by 7.
>
Actually pretty close on this one.  If the fumble didn't happen late to the 
Skins, we might have seen an all-NFC East championship matchup.


>
>
>These are my predictions for this week.  I have done pretty good this 
>year.  Before you blast my picks, watch the games  
>         TR
>
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From: stailey@bugs.comm.mot.com (Mike Stailey)
Subject: Re: Bear Coach question
Reply-To: stailey@comm.mot.com
Organization: Motorola LMPS Research, Schaumburg, IL
Date: Thu, 7 Jan 1993 10:14:21 GMT
Keywords: Before Ditka


*Could someone please tell me the Bear coach(es) between Abe Giberon
*and Mike Ditka. Thanks very much!


	Neil Armstrong was one of them.


 	--
	Michael                      
	stailey@comm.mot.com     


From: boell@hpcc01.corp.hp.com (Donald P Boell)
Date: Fri, 8 Jan 1993 17:13:17 GMT
Subject: Re: Chad Bergerson - the immature drone
Organization: the HP Corporate notes server
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro

The matter is closed.  You misread the original post.  The 'eat .... ' statement
was not my ranting at Chad, it was an exact copy of an email I received.  My
comments begin after Chad's sig.  This is history, sorry to have gotten into
this on the net.  Won't happen again.

Don Boell

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From: jmartin@ntmtv.UUCP (Jeff Martin)
Subject: Re: San Fancisco vs the NFC East
Originator: jmartin@cleomed
Organization: Northern Telecom Incorporated
Distribution: usa
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 1993 22:08:52 GMT

From article <1993Jan4.152508.12628@asl.dl.nec.com>, by nix@aslslc43.asl.dl.nec.com (David Nix):
> After the dust settled from the wildcard games, the NFC is right where it
> started three years ago:  San Francisco on top and a bevy of NFC East teams
> vying to knock the 49ers off that pedestal.
> 
> The NFC playoffs come down to this:  The best team in the NFL vs. the best
> division in the NFL, to the victor goes the spoils.
> 
> Nix

Part of the reason that the 49er's are atop thier pedestal is that
they are part of a weaker divison. That bevy of NFC east teams spent
a good part of this season knocking each other off to the benefit of
the 9ers. 

The Cowboys/Eagles/Redskins interconference rivalies accounted for 2
losses per team with each team splitting each series. If SF played
in a stronger conference, like the NFC east their record probably
would not have been 14-2. 

Let me anticipate a few potential arguments in favor of the NFC West:

> The 49ers swept their toughest rival New Orleans.

  - Yes in two very close games. Those same Saints were dispatched 
    by the Eagles in the first round of the playoffs.

> The 49ers beat the Eagles this year.

  - Yes, at home the 9ers beat the Eagles in a game that was so close
    that the outcome arguably hinged on a single (mis?)spotting of a ball. 
    Hardly a reason to assume dominence over an entire division.

> Another NFC west team, the Rams, beat the divison winning Cowboys.

  - ...And the NFC east last place team the Cardinals beat SF. 
    It happens. Go figure.

This is not to say that having earned home field advantage that
the 9ers won't get to the Super Bowl. But don't live under any
delusion that the 49er's are not the beneficerey of a weaker division
than the Eagles/Cowboys/Redskins any of whom would have eagerly
traded four games with each other for games with the Rams and
Falcons.

Jeff Martin
From: skywalke@dino.qci.bioch.bcm.tmc.edu (Skywalker)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Free Agency
Date: 11 Jan 1993 18:25:50 GMT
Organization: X-Ray Crystallography / Atomic Biophysics H.H.M.I.
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In article <C0oH8t.MH@abode.ttank.com> eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett) writes:
 >What is this deal with the free agency when a player can't sign with whoever
 >he wants? I heard today during the Cowboy game that a player can't sign with
 >the final four teams (i.e. the teams in the AFC/NFC Championship games). I
 >guess what they mean is that certain players can't sign with those times (i.e.
 >Reggie White to San Francisco). This is ridiculous! The NBA or MLB have no
 >such restrictions. It is not a fair rule at all. Once again it is restricted
 >free agency.

This will be known as the Al Davis rule. What a crock of shit, this move 
was done to keep Reggie White from Dallas and San Fran. If you notice on 
the post game show on NBC Davis did mention that the Cowboys and Niners 
could not get Reggie but his beloved asswipes the Raiders could. It's ok, 
Dallas wouldn't give up the money our disrupt the defense we have for him.
It really is sad that this washed up old acidhead from the 60's can still 
affect the rules of the game in the 90's.

Al Davis, get a life, and get the hell out of the NFL !
Nothing personal raiders fans but Al Davis SUCKS.

tim
From: hjjcl@usho77.hou281.chevron.com (J.J.Clyde)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: Who would win this game?
Date: 12 Jan 93 22:03:08 GMT
Organization: .

(James Melcher) writes:
>No disrespect intended at all for what the Crimson Tide has done this year- 
>they've had a great season, and have a truly outstanding defense- I'd have 
>to agree with Mr. Zimmers that the Patriots would win such a game handily.  
>In addition to the reasons he cited, I'd like to bring up an additional 
>piece of evidence.  The closest thing to such a matchup in the real world 
>was the old College All-Stars game that used to be held at Soldier Field 
>each year shortly before the NFL pre-season.  A team of the best college 
>seniors from the previous year would play the defending NFL champions (not 
>precisely the hypothesized matchup, of course, but something of an 
>approximation.)  The NFL franchise had a very long winning streak when the 
>series was ended in the early 1970's (I believe my Packers were the last 
>team to lose to the College All-Stars, and that was in the early 1960's).  
>It's not a perfect parallel, but I can't think of a closer real-world 
>matchup of this nature.

Well, betting on the NFL Champs, or even the Pats, would be a no-brainer, 
but......
Unless the All-Stars had _a lot_ of time to practice and prepare together, 
I'd think that the defending National Champ (the Tide, for instance) would 
fair better than a team of College All-Stars.  The raw talent on the
field alone wouldn't get it done.

Those all-star games have about as much coordination and teamwork as
the Roadrunner and Coyote.  I mean, consider an average Blue-Gray or
Hula Bowl team and their average gameplan (off-tackle, deep post,
off-tackle, gadget play, etc) trying to stay on the field with the
Patriots or Seahawks.   Wouldn't happen.  Bama would prove much more of
a worthy opponent.
(although they'd still lose 9 of out 10 times)

--J.J.
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From: rfedkiw@redwood.math.ucla.edu (Ronald Fedkiw)
Subject: DALLAS
Organization: UCLA Mathematics Department
Distribution: usa
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 93 14:08:17 GMT

Dallas is the best team to ever play the game.
Aichman is the best quarterback in football.
Emmitt Smith is the best back in the history of the game.
Philly sucks. Cunningham will choke. Philly doesn't want it.
Dallas will pound the field with them. 
Dallas has a much better defense. Philly's D only looks good on paper.

Dallas 70 (10 touchdowns on ten posessions)
Philly 0 (net yards: rush -95, pass 3)

( P.S. maybe if Buffalo is lucky, they can work out a trade with Dallas 
for Emmitt Smith. They'd give Thomas, Kelly, Bennet, AND Bruce Smith, and
a few drafts picks here and there. After all, it worked for Minnesota.)
--
Ron Fedkiw (rfedkiw@joshua.math.ucla.edu)

The meek shall inherit the Earth. The rest of us are going to the stars.
From: mgleason@cse.unl.edu (Mike Gleason)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Wanted: Fantasy football price list
Date: 10 Jan 1993 18:35:43 GMT
Organization: NCEMRSoft
Distribution: world
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This may seem like an odd request considering that the season is over, but
my friends and I are making teams for a football game and we need a list that
rates the players so we can draft teams while staying under a "salary cap."

Thanks in advance,
--mg

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From: gidi@Hilbert.Stanford.EDU (Gidi Avrahami)
Subject: Re: The Rooney Rule
Organization: Brotherhood Of Breath
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 21:00:42 GMT

rsmith@strobe.ATC.Olivetti.Com (Russ Smith) writes:
> [...summary of the no-FA-signings for top teams rule...]
>[...] prevent Eddie DeBartolo from buying up all the talented free agents
>although losing Montana would free up a lot of money for somebody like
>White. 

Montana is *not* a free agent.  He has two more years on his current
contract.  He may be traded, but it won't help with FA signings.

I think the Niners might let some mid-level players go and make some
small FA investments, on the caliber of Glen Veris.  Of course, they
could still lose Steve Young to FA, couldn't they?

>I think that Rooney had the same though[t] I had that certain teams with
>rich owners were poised to make a mockery of the free agency if they
>did not pass this rule.

What do you mean, "mockery?"  There's still a salary cap, isn't there?
And anyway, the Redskins, Oilers, Bears, Giants and Raiders will probably
make much more noise in the FA market than Dallas and Buffalo.

By the way, my reaction was that Rooney wanted to punish Miami for
signing Keith Jackson...  But of course, when the rule was passed it
didn't look like Miami would be in the final four.  Also, Miami could
very well lose Mark Clayton


--Gidi


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From: huber@Kodak.COM (Ron Huber)
Subject: Re: Bills injury status?
Keywords: Bills are great!
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 93 18:57:28 GMT

In article <1993Jan4.061837.9087@ultb.isc.rit.edu>, trc6398@ultb.isc.rit.edu (T.R. Craver) writes:
>In article <4JAN93.01193409@vax.clarku.edu> htilney@vax.clarku.edu writes:
>>Would someone post Buffalo's injury outlook for Saturday, mainly for Jim
>>Kelly and Cornelius Bennett. Thanks in advance...
>>
>
>Kelly is out at least for next week.  
>
>Bennett should be back in for next week against Pittsburgh.
>
>Thomas went out with a hip injury in the first half, but should be
>  okay for next week.
>
Bennett was quoted as saying that he had a similar injury to the one he has now in colleges and he was out for 6 weeks. He added that he hopes he won't be out htat long this time. I will be surprised to see him back next week.
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From: jpglori@srv.PacBell.COM (JOHN)
Subject: Can the Bills keep it going?
Organization: Pacific * Bell
Date: Sat, 9 Jan 1993 20:21:53 GMT

YES! FINAL SCORE: Steelers  3   Bills  24

The Bills played a methodical, control ball offense and DEFENSE!
O'Donnell could not muster the win against a determined Bills D.
His rustiness was quite evident and the Steelers D was shredded
apart by Reich's passing and the Bills running. Kudos to the
Bills, who IMHO, surprised me! Reich continues to also
surprise me with his uncanny calmness. FORWARD ON!

SCORING SUMMARY:

1 QTR.

38 yd FG by Gary Anderson

Steelers   3   Bills    0

2-7 O'Donnell passes, INT'd by Odom, intended for Ernie Mills.

END OF 1ST QTR.

2nd QTR.

1-GOAL HO to Gardner..stopped short of the goal line 2:00
remaining....Reich, fakes HO,  drops back, trips and passes 
to a a wide open Frerotte who was in the backfield,  TD!

Steelers  3   Bills  7

3RD QTR.

Sammy Walker's (Steelers) side has been picked on consistently.

Reich passes screen to Thomas right, 1st down to the 14 yd line.
The Steelers change to a 3-4 basic defense causes Reich to call 
an audible and delay of game 1-15 HO to Davis run right, short 
gain.  Reich pass to Beebe, Shelton cuts in front and almost 
gets an INT. 3-13 Reich deep pass right to Lofton in the end 
zone, TD with Sammy Walker defending!  13 plays, 80 yds.

Steelers  3   Bills  14

4th QTR.

Reich passes left to McKeller, 1st down  1-10 HO to Thomas,
short gain...2-9 Reich pass left to Beebee, short gain
3-2 at the 45...Reich drops back, passes deep middle to
Beebe, 14 yd catch...1st down. What the hell are the
Steelers D thinking about out there?

Busted play from the start. Attempt for an end around to
Beebe was a bust! Loss of yards..  Steve Christie, 
43 yd attempt GOOD FG.

Steelers  3   Bills  17

1-GOAL HO to Kenneth Davis, TD! Oops. They take it away,
ball at the 1 foot line. HO to Gardner, run right TD!

Steelers  3   Bills  24
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From: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com (Dan Smith)
Subject: Re: Free Agency
Reply-To: dansmith@mcopn2.dseg.ti.com
Organization: Texas Instruments, Inc.
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 1993 19:28:39 GMT

In article MH@abode.ttank.com, eric@abode.ttank.com (Eric C. Bennett) writes:
>What is this deal with the free agency when a player can't sign with whoever
>he wants? I heard today during the Cowboy game that a player can't sign with
>the final four teams (i.e. the teams in the AFC/NFC Championship games). I
>guess what they mean is that certain players can't sign with those times (i.e.
>Reggie White to San Francisco). This is ridiculous! The NBA or MLB have no
>such restrictions. It is not a fair rule at all. Once again it is restricted
>free agency.
>
>What is everyone else's opinion on this?
>

I think it SUCKS! This is totally stupid. Something needs to be done. Is the
rule written so that noone can go to the last four teams? If so, what if these
teams loose a lot of players to free agency? Can they not sign anyone to help
cover their losses? With the already low draft positions and no free agents,
these teams will be in a real bind! This is utterly ridiculous!
From: dchou@husc11.harvard.edu (David Chou)
Newsgroups: rec.sport.football.pro
Subject: Re: aPost subject [PittsBurg ???]> a
Date: 5 Jan 93 05:08:44 GMT
Article-I.D.: husc.dchou.726210524

htilney@vax.clarku.edu writes:

>I don't know, Brister has actually played well in the last two games (against
>Minnesota and Cleveland), but I hope O'Donnell will be able to start. He 
>deserves another shot at the Bills. It will definitely be a great game!

I don't know about the Cleveland game, but Brister bit hugely in the Minnesota
game.  The offense scored 3 points, admittedly against a tough defense, but
Brister made some poor decisions and also hung onto the ball as though it were
his dowry settlement.  If Brister starts, I'm certain that the Steelers will
lose (which would break my heart, since this has been the first time in nearly
half a decade that I've been this excited about the Steelers at this point
in the season).  O'Donnell definitely increases the chances of a victory, 
although his rustiness worries me a bit against a still formidable Buffalo
defense.  Win or lose, it should be a great game.

								-Dave

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>-		
>Bart "Webb" Tilney	
>Email: htilney@vax.clarku.edu
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From: lej@pdn.paradyne.com (Leo James)
Subject: Re: NFC Playoffs show restructure necessary?
Organization: AT&T Paradyne, Largo, Florida
Date: Wed, 6 Jan 1993 17:04:22 GMT

I think divisional re-structuring should only be argued on the basis
of encouraging regional rivalries and managing the NFL's travel time
and costs because the relative strength or weakness of the teams are
in constant flux and this invalidates arguments based on competitive
balance.
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