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From: lewis@linac.fnal.gov (June Cummins Lewis)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: SNL Review/12-12-92
Date: 14 Dec 92 16:29:31 GMT
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Organization: Fermilab, Batavia, IL

In article <1gi86jINNh9a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen) writes:
>
>Well, overall IUd say that last Saturday's SNL was good,
>but not great, with it's usual share of high and low points.
>
>The high point was definitely Glenn Close. She's one of
>the only guest stars in recent memory who seemed to have
>actually REHEARSED the script, and she developed
>several funny and interesting characters throughout
>the skits in the show.
>

Yes, I generally don't like her, but I was very impressed with her 
performance.  I realized why she is considered a great actress.  

>"Where you headed?" sketch:
>Definitely one of the funnier bits in the show, although
>I'm still not sure why. Phil Hartman was especially hilarious
>as the slow-talking, annoyingly calm contestant.

I think it worked so well because it took a stereotype that isn't as 
familiar as some others (like New Jersey types) and really made it
believable.  It was tightly written and the acting was good.

>Lesbian sketch:
>Potentially funny, but ultimately dull and stupid. The 
>characters were all there, but there was no funny script
>to keep up with them.

I enjoyed this because again I felt they got the stereotype right on
without being obnoxious.  

My biggest gripe with the show overall was the serious lack of use of
the female cast members.  There was the Tori sketch and this one, but
for the first part of the show, the women were seriously underused
(except for Close, of course).  Since right now only one permanent 
cast member is female, I guess I shouldn't be too surprised, but more
and more SNL is looking like an old boys' club.  Get with it, SNL!
Stop ghetto-izing women players.  (Off soapbox.)

>Scrooge sketch:
>Again, potentially funny, but went nowhere. It was clear

Hated it.

>Coffee Talk:
>Pretty good, though certainly not the most memorable
>CT sketch. (That would probably go to the one which

And they relied on jokes from the previous ones too much (especially
the Yiddish expressions).  Still, it was refreshing to see them deal
with an issue that is so often swept under the rug on television--
intermarriage between Jews and Christians.  It was nice to see that
the ambivalence and complicated emotions which are much more typical
of such sitations than TV suggests were conveyed.  Close was again
very good.

>Tori:
>Pretty funny, especially the use of Issac from the Love
>Boat looking for work.

This reminds me:  It was good to see this actress playing the butch
lesbian type.  For the first time, we saw she could do a character
that is not a ditz living in Southern California. 

Just some of my opinions!

June

-- 
"Saying that men talk about baseball in order to avoid talking about their
feelings is the same as saying that women talk about their feelings in order
to avoid talking about baseball."
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From: staggers@writer.cup.hp.com (Ken Staggers)
Subject: Re: Why is Jenny Jones still on television?
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 19:23:33 GMT
Organization: Hewlett-Packard
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J.B. Nicholson-Owens (jeffo@uiuc.edu) wrote:
: Jenny Jones has got to be the biggest ignoramus in TV talk show  
: history.  She never listens to her guests, and she is always having  
: problems remembering who is who on her panel even though she has all  
: their names and the position of their seats on the card in front of her  
: (in the shows I've seen, she demonstrates this at least once per show).   

: My questions after all this are:  Has her show been canceled or is  
: there a reason she's on at 1am on a local ABC station?  Is there any  
: talk of her show being canned?

Supposedly she is waiting on a decision from her syndicator (Warner?)
as to whether they will attempt to sell another yr of her show at the
NATPE convention this January in San Francisco.  Now, if they attempt
to sell the show, it doesnt mean that someone will buy it.

Her syndicator is the biggest reason why she is still on the air.  They
are very committed to the show, no matter what timeslot she's in.

--Ken
From: bdsm@poincare.WPI.EDU (Billy Don McConnell)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Date: 11 Dec 1992 23:00:24 GMT
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In article <00964EFA.DAD54980@vms.csd.mu.edu>, 9073hammesm@vms.csd.mu.edu writes:
|> >>> This sounds like an interesting topic ... anyone else have any others?
|> >>> What valuable lessons do we learn from watching TV?
|> >>> 
|> >>
|> 
|> No one on TV ever has to look up a phone number.
|> 
|> When two guys are fighting, the woman is somehow rooted to her spot
|> and can never pick up anything to help the good guy.
|> 
|> Mary H.

In an all-out brawl, men fight men while women fight women; moreover, men exchange
punches while women wrestle.  And (to expand on Mary H's observation) if there is 
a spare woman on one side or the other, she usually (a) cowers in a corner, 
wincing and chewing her lower lip, but doing nothing constructive, or (b) finds a 
vase, skull, bottle, or some other breakaway prop to smash over the head of a 
male opponent.

Don Mc Connell
bdsm@poincare.wpi.edu
From: davidd@hobbes.swdc.stratus.com (David Deisley)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Family Ties (Re: Cheers/Frazier)
Date: 11 Dec 92 20:29:57 GMT
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Organization: Stratus Computer, Inc., San Jose, CA

In article <34024@sales.GBA.NYU.EDU> wchong@sales.GBA.NYU.EDU (Will) writes:
>In article <1992Dec9.122502.10598@mnemosyne.cs.du.edu> dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams) writes:
>>
>>doel@bae.bellcore.com (Michael Doel) writes:
>> >Thus, the show took on more of a "Family Ties" type of feel where running 
>> >jokes and one-liners are more important than new and fresh stories.
>>Ugh.  Cheers is NOTHING like cheap "family" shows of that sort. Also "running
>>jokes" are one of the greatest advantages of such LONG *running* series!
>>For example when they throw in one of those occasional "Diane" references,
>>it makes for HUGE laughs.  I see that somewhat like a "gift" from the writers
>>to all of us long-time fans of the show.  :-)
>>
>
>
>Wait one second.  'Family Ties' was NOT a cheap family show.  It ranks up
>there along with  'Cheers' in ratings and as a comdey series.  In fact, when
>it was cancelled, it was still in the top 20's. 
>
>'Family Ties' IMHO was a wonderful TV show with comedy and heart -- and at
>times great drama e.g. when Alex deals with the death of his friend.

Family Ties became a typical, predictable sitcom with one-dimensional
characters.

			David Deisley

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From: rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Remmington Steele
Date: 18 Dec 92 20:57:41 GMT
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Organization: MAWL - Mudd Alums Without Lives

In article <BzFM0F.4LD@inews.Intel.COM> jreece@sousa.intel.com writes:
>In article <BzEGwJ.38n@news.cso.uiuc.edu>, ses52823@uxa.cso.uiuc.edu (Marius) writes:
>Brosnan can't get as convincingly mean and physical as Dalton can.
>If the Dalton movies havn't done well it's because the series
>concept is getting stale and it's almost impossible to top past efforts.

I disagree.  "Living Daylights" was good.

I would love to see Broccoli and co. do a reasonably honest version of
the Gardner novels.  "License to Kill" was a dog, but the Gardner
novels show that the whole concept is not yet lost.

"Icebreaker" comes to mind as well as "No Deals, Mr. Bond"

Agitator
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From: page@cgvax2.enet.dec.com (Brad Page)
Subject: Re: SNL Review/12-12-92
Organization: Digital Equipment Corporation
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 17:36:35 GMT


In article <1giigcINNppu@bigboote.WPI.EDU>, jtruss@rajeesh.WPI.EDU (Free the Expo 67!) writes...
>In article <-VDZ5LAN=@linac.fnal.gov> lewis@linac.fnal.gov (June Cummins Lewis) writes:
>>In article <1gi86jINNh9a@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> cb366@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark B. Bendiksen) writes:

>>>"Where you headed?" sketch:
>>>Definitely one of the funnier bits in the show, although
>>>I'm still not sure why. Phil Hartman was especially hilarious
>>>as the slow-talking, annoyingly calm contestant.
>>
>>I think it worked so well because it took a stereotype that isn't as 
>>familiar as some others (like New Jersey types) and really made it
>>believable.  It was tightly written and the acting was good.
> 
>They must have done *something* right, since our viewing group was almost
>entirely from New England.  I have to agree that Hartman was the best, if
>only because he was the most understated.  He was painfully realistic, I
>know some people like him back home (Gardiner, Maine)...



	As a life-long New Englander (currently in New Hampshire, formerly
from Mass.) I got a kick out of this sketch, but it could have been better.
I didn't think Phil Hartman's accent was that good, or Glenn Close's either;
Accents like that can be heard in Maine, but not really in Mass or NH. And 
Kevin Nealon's New England accent was terrible-- I've never heard ANYONE 
talk like that here. But whenever that other character talked (I can't
remember the cast member's name-- the one who does Opera Man) my wife and
I fell on the floor laughing... Now THAT was a Massachusetts accent! We
particularly loved his use of "wicked" and "pissa".... 


Brad Page
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From: thumper@engin.umich.edu (Bob Topping)
Subject: Yet another question: Night after Night
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 01:11:14 EST
Organization: University of Michigan Engineering, Ann Arbor
Distribution: usa

  So here I am, asking yet another question to the net.  I've gotten such
prompt answers before, I just couldn't pass up yet another one:

  Why is Night After Night with Allan Havey on Comedy Central going
off the air (on 29 Dec 92)??


    -- Thanks, Bob.


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From: grant@tiamat.ucs.sfu.ca (Grant Dimock)
Subject: Re: Highlander
Organization: Simon Fraser University, Burnaby, B.C., Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 18:09:45 GMT

In article <42608@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal Agitator)  
writes:
> In article <1992Dec15.231750.26847@u.washington.edu>  
labmas@stein.u.washington.edu (Michael Andersson) writes:
> >In article <42594@sdcc12.ucsd.edu> rnlee@sdcc3.ucsd.edu (Profess'nal  
Agitator) writes:
> >>We now know that Duncan's shop cannot be the same as Connor's from the
> >>movie (is it the same set?  I don't recall).  Two times during this
> >>ep, it is revealed that the home city is not New York (never thought
> >>it was, something didn't "feel" right).

It is definately not Conner's shop, I just watched the H1 on Sunday.  
> 
> >The episode "Eyewitness" was set in Vancouver, BC (Geodistic Dome from
> >Expo '86).  The licence plate I saw in the same ep was Washington State. 
> >You tell me.  The movie was definitely set in N.Y., N.Y.
> 
> Well, I'm not ready to say it's set in Vancouver.  I figure it's just
> another show that's filmed in Vancouver and set in random generic US
> city (that's not New York  :-).

It is definately not meant to be set in Vancouver, but hey, sometimes you just  
can't miss some of the sites (ain't they great).  From all I recall it is set  
in Washington (see all the Wash plates), probably Seattle or Tacoma.  They have  
made references to "going" to New York, but nothing more.

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From: firenza@wpi.WPI.EDU (Timothy Mark Collins)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv,rec.arts.sf.tv
Subject: Re: QL: "Promised Land": observations
Date: 16 Dec 1992 20:37:24 GMT
Organization: Worcester Polytechnic Institute
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In article <BzD9qr.HFJ@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu> bharat@cs.uiuc.edu writes:
>rck1@ellis.uchicago.edu (roberta chi-woon kwong) writes:
>
>A general comment about QL.  While the shows have been good, I don;t
>think they have come close to the SUSTAINED quality of the 3rd (??)
>year when they began with the two great "The Leap Home" shows (TLH2 is
>my all time favorite QL), had the Watts episode, Last Dance, and about
>6 shows that would make the top 8-10 listing of all QL shows in my
>book.  Actuallyu, QL lost it a bit IMO last year, and became a little
>dare I say it ordinary (now Sally will sic Mary on me again) ... but
>this year, happily the shows seem to be of higher quality.  The 3
>parter episode was great...

  I agree.  The third season does have almost all of my favorite eps in it.
TLH2 is also my favorite.  How often has Sam gotten drunk when he has not
made everything perfect after the leap?  "A life for a life."  

firenza
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From: kieran@world.std.com (Aaron L Dickey)
Subject: Re: Looking for the Bunny
Organization: The World Public Access UNIX, Brookline, MA
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 14:35:39 GMT

I don't know if this is a whole lot of help, but I do remember Eveready
selling mechanical bunnies a while back.  You might try calling the 800
number on the back of the battery packages, or even Eveready's Public
Relations department (they're in Cleveland).

If that doesn't work, get your kid a farting Stimpy doll, $13 at a Toys
'R' Us near you.  I'm sure the parental annoyance value will be just as
strong. :)

--Aaron
Organization: Penn State University
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:31:01 EST
From: Todd Bobenrieth <TAB129@psuvm.psu.edu>
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: Brian Hailey, One Night Stand

He was just on WTAJ-10 from Altoona on a replay of the HBO special.
He is indeed hysterical, in a weird sorta way. I have it on tape and
seem to go mental with every viewing of it. Favorite topics...
Goatmating ritual for hitchhikers
9 1/2 foot tall comedian
First appearance ever on stage(never let em see you sweat)
DING DONG!!! DING DONG!!!!  through airports
Inside fast food restaraunt drivethrough
Tricks to play on PA announcer at airports
and so on...
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From: mcovingt@aisun3.ai.uga.edu (Michael Covington)
Subject: Change newsgroups line; was: Re: obnoxious PUBLIC television
Organization: AI Programs, University of Georgia, Athens
Distribution: usa
Date: Sat, 12 Dec 1992 17:30:21 GMT

I have been asked to move this discussion out of uga.general, which is
a local newsgroup used for University of Georgia internal matters
(such as exchanges of insults between students :). 

Everybody, please delete "uga.general" from the newsgroups line when
you follow up messages on this topic.  Thanks.



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From: wcsswag@alfred.carleton.ca (The Charlatan)
Subject: PBS Funding Questions
Keywords: PBS, money
  Now that PBS pledge drive season is over. I was wondering about a
Organization: Carleton University, Ottawa, Canada
Distribution: na
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 05:29:46 GMT


1) What proportion of members from border stations(Watertown,Buffalo,etc) 
   are from Canada.
   During the breaks at least 1/2 the pledgers seemed to come 
   from Canada.(WNPI-16,Watertown NY)

2) How is the "target" figure determined. Is it based on population in
   the viewing area?
   The goal for the Station was $230,000. Does this take into 
   account Canadian cities within cable range? Example Ottawa-Carleton
   750,000. 
   Or just the American side, with Canadian donations as a added
   bonus?

Thanks in Advance,
alex


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From: dnadams@nyx.cs.du.edu (Dean Adams)
Subject: Re: WKRP in Cincinnati Episode Guide
Organization: Utopia Planitia Starfleet Yards, Mars
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 92 06:50:51 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.003214.103@wam.umd.edu> travgod@next02wor.wam.umd.edu (Travis R. Whiting) writes:
>Does anyone have an episode guide to the original WKRP shows ??!!!


You can find the one I wrote at _ftp.coe.montana.edu_

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From:  (relgov)
Subject: Re: Eight is Enough question
Organization: AA
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 07:19:07 GMT
Followup-To: rec.arts.tv

In article <1992Dec15.231335.628@schbbs.mot.com>,
AVRK90@waccvm.corp.mot.com (Kevin Cox) wrote:
> 
> I know this is WAY old, but I've been watching the reruns of Eight is
> Enough lately and have a question.  In the first episodes Joan Bradford
> (the actual wife/mother) was on the show, then all of a sudden she's
> gone.  In later episodes they mention that she died.  I don't remember
> an episode that dealt with her death.  Anyone know what she died of?
> Was she just written out of the show or what??
> 
As I recall, she died in real life after the first season (I don't recall
how), and when the series returned they simply mentioned it.  They sort of
dealt with her death on the 1st Xmas show after her death when someone
discovered a gift she had wrapped and hid somewhere in the kitchen.  It was
a gift for David (the teenager kid), who was having a hard time dealing
with the Xmas season (cause of her death).  Needless to say, there was a
lot of emotion, tears, regarding this find (Also, I forgot what the gift
was).
From: finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu (Tracy E. Finifter)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: VALUABLE LESSONS LEARNED FROM TELEVISION
Date: 17 Dec 92 00:13:38 GMT
Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.

rick@sadtler.com (Rick Morris) writes:

>David Gutierrez writes:
>>
>>The best place to hit someone is squarely on the chin - it always knocks him
>>right out and you never hurt your knuckles.
>>

>Well, in Simon & Simon, during the first couple of seasons, they would
>always hurt their knuckles... But then I guess they got tough...

>And MacGiver always hurt his knuckles.

>And Rockford... didn't he always hurt his knuckles?...

Don't forget Remington Steele, he always hurt his knuckles too.


-- 
Tracy Finifter - finifter@gandalf.rutgers.edu
Why did the chicken cross the road?  Ziggy says there's an 89.7% chance it was
because he found himself trapped on the road, leaping from side to side, and
driven by an unknown force to dodge oncoming traffic.
From: hamel@uakari.primate.wisc.edu (Ray Hamel)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Old cat and mouse cartoon
Date: 18 Dec 1992 08:42:45 -0600
Organization: UW-Madison Primate Center
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> In article <1gmeokINNf5u@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> ba903@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Charles P. Hobbs) writes:
> 
> > I remember a few cartoons which I havent seen in a long time:
> 
> > d. A Cat and Mouse cartoon (no, not Tom and Jerry) involving
> >    a mouse who rode around on a motorcycle, and a cat who chased
> >    him with various cars he invented. (Late 60's-Early 70's)
> 

	This cartoon was AUTOCAT AND MOTORMOUSE.  Autocat was
voiced by Marty Ingalls.  I don't recall who did
Motormouse's voice, but he had a Southern accent.  Motormouse
wrote a "hog" with high handlebars.  Autocat devised a number
of different kinds of vehicles to try and catch Motormouse --
sort of a higher technology Speedy Gonzales.

Ray Hamel
University of Wisconsin
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From: mrosen@nyx.cs.du.edu (Michael Rosen)
Subject: Re: QL: "Promised Land": observations
Organization: University of Denver, Dept. of Math & Comp. Sci.
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 92 22:45:16 GMT

rck1@ellis.uchicago.edu (roberta chi-woon kwong) writes:

>The Oldsmobile commercial: Marvelous! Apparently Olds has enough
>faith in QL to go ahead and spend money for a "personalized" ad.
>Very nice.

Could you post a description of this ad?  I must not have been paying
attention to seee how it was "personalized."

Thanks,
Mike
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From: hefferman@ccs1.bbn.com (Maqtt Hefferman)
Newsgroups: rec.arts.tv
Subject: Re: NEXP: Sentence?
Date: 18 Dec 1992 18:45:22 GMT
Organization: Bolt Beranek and Newman Inc., Newport, RI
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v075q5fr@ubvmsb.cc.buffalo.edu (Scott J Gorcey) writes:
>millerm@oakhill.sps.mot.com writes...
>>I missed a few key words in what the judge ruled. Could 
>>someone please explain what the ramifications are of
>>the ruling?
>
>     The extradition to West Virginia will go through, but because
>     of his vital role in the community and what the judge could
>     only refer to as his "Chris-ness," the town has 3 years to 
>     hire a replacement DJ of Chris's caliber.  If, after 3 years
>     the town has failed to find a replacement, the extradition
>     will go through anyway... if the authorities from West Virginia
>     show up.  

As a big NEXP fan, I was pretty irate at the lame "resolution" of Chris'
legal predicament. Besides, Bernard was considering Maurice's offer, and
he's (by definition) of Chris' caliber, and Officer Semanski's dedication
to duty would not likely be swayed by the judge's feeble attempt at an
end-around. So watch out, when we all get back from the holiday reruns,
Chris may be wheeling his way back to Wheeling (knock on wood).

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From: cindy@cs.cornell.edu (Cindy Robinson-Hubbell)
Subject: CRUSHES/VALUABLE TV LESSONS, ETC
Organization: Cornell Univ. CS Dept, Ithaca NY 14853
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 13:12:10 GMT


this has certainly been one of the most entertaining
weeks to read rec.arts.tv!

hunks ' burning luv = shaun cassidy in the eyes of a ten year old;
	yeeps, what *WAS* i thinking! ;)

	fonzi when i was fifteen

	kevin costner when i'm .... never mind!


;)

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