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From: bryant@neural.Kodak.COM (Steve Bryant)
Subject: Early Start Ideas
Organization: Eastman Kodak Co., Rochester, NY
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 13:20:03 GMT

Living in the great white north (Rochester NY) I am constantly
thinking of ways to get more out of my growing season. With a blanket
of snow a foot deep I am huddled in my house dreaming thoughts
of foot long carrots and basket ball sized cabbages... and how	
to get them with ten days of growing season.

I'd like to here from the friged netters what tricks they have learned
to eek out a few extra days of growing season, or any way out ideas
they would like to try.

Here's one to get things started. How about using a clear plastic
raft, half filled with water and then complete the job of blowing 
it up to make it rigid. Place the clear raft on some bricks over your
seed bed to make a kind of cold frame. 

I hope to hear some good ideas. Hell, give me your bad ideas I'm not
picky.
From: chrysops@fatcity.cts.com (Alan Beck)
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
Subject: Poinsettia watering
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 92 08:40:17 PST
Organization: Fat City Software, San Diego, California

Poinsettias like regular watering (i.e. every couple of
days).  They are not picky in this regard.  If your
climate is mild, they'll grow bigger than you in short
order.  My only problem is keeping them from outgrowing
the entire patio.  Hope this helps!

-- 
chrysops@fatcity.cts.com (Alan Beck)
Fat City Software BBS -- (619) 621-6079
UUCP: ...crash.cts.com!fatcity!chrysops  OR  ...telesoft.com!fatcity!chrysops
Newsgroups: rec.gardens
From: Bob Klebba <nicmad!klebba%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu>
Subject: Re: tall grass prairie
Organization: Nicolet Instrument Corporation
X-Useragent: Nuntius v1.1
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 20:47:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec14.132924.202@janus.arc.ab.ca> , thacker@rhea writes:
>I am toying with the idea of putting in a small patch of tall grass
>prairie in my yard.

Somewhere an operator error omitted the following from my previous thread:

You may want to try planting your forbs (non-grass plants) a year or two
before planting the grasses.  Grasses are relatively easy to establish
and will quickly crowd out other plants.  

Besides spring color, you may want to consider fall color and winter
texture.  Many of the grasses turn red and brown in the fall, while the
forbs add contrast to the snowscapes.

Bob Klebba
Madison, Wisconsin, USDA zone 4
Inet: nicmad!klebba%astroatc.uucp@spool.cs.wisc.edu
"Feed the soil, not the plant"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Fabulous DoD Babes For Jeff
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 92 03:45:36 GMT

In article <1992Dec16.215706.385@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>In article <4441@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@anyway.UUCP writes:
>>In article <1992Dec9.201050.671@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
>>>
>>>   I am 38 years old, 5'7", 195 lb, and my blood pressure, though not high,
>>>is not far from being so. I eat too much, drink lots of beer, and don't 
>>>exercise enough. 
>>>
>>>Jeff Achenbach 
>>
>>Hey Jeff;
>>
>>	Geezez, will ya! You got the chicks all riled up here. I've 
>>personally talked with several of the fabulous DoD babes and you've
>>shot up to #1 on the DoD "men that DoD FB's need to be with" list.
>>I can see the steam eminating from the DoD FB's keyboards now. All
>>I can say is that your a lucky man, and if the rest of us men are lucky,
>>you'll give us some tips on how you've become the #1 DoD guy. 
>>
>>Hoping to break the top 20 by the year 2000;
>>
>>Tod J. Johnson
>
>Well, then we better not discuss my exercise routine. Talking about the 
>pelvic pushups could really cause trouble. They're even more fun than the
>12 ounce curls.
 ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>
>Jeff Achenbach

Hey again Jeff -

    Usually when people go in for exercise, they use heavier barbells than
just the 12 oz types.

Charlie Smith    #709

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles,ba.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Bought a map pocket; here's the info
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 1992 03:47:26 GMT

Went to Road Rider today (this is a big moto store in San Jose, CA)
and they had a large assortment of map pockets that I had completely
missed (I don't know how) until I asked about them.

I ended up with a $12.95 map pocket actually "custom" made for a
Harley Glide. It is made by:

	Hopnel Manufacturing
	2710 - 69th Street
	Kenosha, WI  53143
	+1 (414) 658-0502

They make several models of map pockets, all "made of marine grade vinyl
with non-marring back and UV proof clear plastic." This particular pocket
has a horizontal strap underneath designed to go over your hinged gas
cap (open gas cap, slip strap over cap, close gas cap), and it has velcro
on the trailing edge. The "non-marring back" is very similar to the "soft"
or "loop" side of velcro [tm], and it hugged the existing hook pieces of
velcro on my tank very nicely and didn't seem to want to budge anywhere.
It isn't big enough to hold 8.5 x 11 paper, but is much bigger than just
a folded standard US gas station map. Its closure (velcro) is on the trailing
edge so your map will stay dry.

This was exactly what I was looking for, so I thought I'd pass it on.
Perhaps the KotA could add it to the mcgill archives.
-- 
Curtis Jackson  DoD #721   '62 Yankee Brunette "Dorothy"    '81 Maxim 650
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com   '91 Black Lab "Studley"  '92 Collie/Golden "George"
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: charlie@elektro.cmhnet.org (Charlie Smith)
Subject: Re: Sport Bikes
Organization: Why do you suspect that?
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 92 21:02:17 GMT

In article <1gjnbsINNla7@usenet.INS.CWRU.Edu> aas7@po.CWRU.Edu (Andrew A. Spencer) writes:
>
>In a previous article, tjohnson@anyway.prime.com (Tod Johnson 617) 275-1800 x2317) says:
>
>>Ladies, Gentlemen, Saab Drivers who piss Dick off;
>>
>>	I've been on the road for quite some time and upon my return saw 
>>some discussions pertaining to fascinating subjects like Sport Bikes. I
>>rendered my own opinion and then my curiousity got the best of me. Plus
>>I really wanted to know. So I looked up the word Sport in the dictionary. 
>>Here is what it said....
>>
>>   "To shoot out as liquid through a pipe; projecting tube or pipe for 
>>    pouring liquid. A tube or pipe for leading off rain from a roof."
>>
>>	This evidence has drastically altered my opinion of exactly what is 
>>a sportbike. Previous to my enlightenment I believed that a material object
>>is not classifiable as a "sport" anything; but rather the function for which
>>it is used can be classified as such. Now I have yet to meet anyone who uses 
>>thier motorcycle for shooting liquid through a pipe, or to get rain off of
>>a roof. I feel that all off you said "sportbike" owners have been victimized.
>>Your bikes are worthless, and your actions are shameful. In the future I do
>>hope you'll learn to become better consumers. Another example of the Japenese
>>taking advantage of the American people. First the Chia Pet, now this.
>
>gee.i hope that this is a trick posting, just to get gullible folks like
>myself to post..but..try going back to mr. webster and try looking up 
>"sport" spelled with an R instead of "sport" spelled with a U.
>SPO_U_T will have a meaning similar to the above, while i suggest that
>SPO_R_T will be significanlty different! go try it now! could end a significant
>amount of confusion!
>good luck!
>DREW

No, no, no.  What he really did was spell it with a U instead of an O,
He had SP_U_RT instead of SP_O_RT <!>

Charlie Smith
From: labrg@emory.edu (Ryan Montieth Gill)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Sportbike Reccomendation
Date: 18 Dec 92 14:56:29 GMT
Organization: Emory University, Atlanta, GA
X-Newsreader: Tin 1.1 PL3


	You might try one of the older Honda Interecepters...one of my
	buddies is somewhat short...around 5'9" or so...handles the
	bike fine....

			Ryan
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder)
Subject: Re: new biker story : Katy meets a Volvo
Organization: TI Semiconductor Process and Design Center
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1992 20:38:11 GMT

In article <1992Dec15.192731.14427@asl.dl.nec.com> drinckes@nzl.abk.nec.co.jp writes:
>In article 27359@spdc.ti.com, crowder@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Mark Crowder) writes:

 [story about brain-dead cager pulling in front of Katy deleted]

>>>>Anyone out there got any words of wisdom for Katy?
>>
>>  I've found that if you flash your high-beam when the cager in
>>question looks your way, this doesn't happen as often.  Just
>>because they've looked your way doesn't mean they've *seen* 
>>you.  Sometimes they don't even look, though, in which case
>>you just have to assume they're gonna do something stupid.
>>
>>Mark Crowder  "I'm sorry my karma ran over your dogma"  crowder@spdc.ti.com 
>
>Here in New Zealand at least, a flash of high beam is a signal to professional
>drivers (taxis, couriers, trucks etc) that you will give way to them.

  Same here.  I probably wouldn't do this on the highway -- and when
I do, I only flash once.  So far,  no problems.

>
>In that case, this could be dangerous.  I prefer to just toot the horn/slow right 
>down, or weave in my lane.  Here the equivalent of your MSF is MSC (Motorcycle 

  I've done this too.  The light seems to have more impact though.

>Safety Consultants) and they instruct you that peripheral vision is not good at 
>colour, but good at movement.  so they suggest that if you don't think a car driver
>has seen you, weave left and right (and get out your gat just in case).
>

  All good suggestions, certainly.

Mark Crowder  "I'm sorry my karma ran over your dogma"  crowder@spdc.ti.com 
Dallas, Tx                    88 BMW R100RS         Texas Instruments, Inc.
"If at first you don't succeed, try again.  Then quit.  No use being a 
 damn fool about it."  -- W.C. Fields
From: tjohnson@anyway.prime.com (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Sport Bikes
Keywords: Spam
Date: 14 Dec 92 20:56:55 GMT
Reply-To: tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317)
Distribution: usa
Organization: Prime Computervision, Bedford MA

In article <4435@cvbnetPrime.COM> tjohnson@anyway.UUCP (Tod Johnson (617) 275-1800 x2317) writes:
>
>I really wanted to know. So I looked up the word Sport in the dictionary. 
>Here is what it said....
>
>   "To shoot out as liquid through a pipe; projecting tube or pipe for 
>    pouring liquid. A tube or pipe for leading off rain from a roof."
>
>	This evidence has drastically altered my opinion of exactly what is 
>a sportbike. 

All;

	My most humble apologies pertaining to the above posting. It appears
that I have failed to follow the page of the dictionary properly. The above
definition is that of "spout" not "sport". Thanks to all of you whom checked
the dictionary for me and found my error of proximatey. I'll get back to you
on what effect this data will have on my opinions of sportbikes, and let me
openly apologize for suggesting the Japanese were responsible for selling
spoutbikes, and misleading the American motorcycling public.

Most Humbly;

Tod J. Johnson
DoD #883
"Go Slow, Take Geritol"
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: csl@swl.msd.ray.com (Scott Lilliott)
Subject: Re: New owner of Yamaha Seca II looking for advice
Keywords: Yamaha, newbie, Seca II, clueless, help
Organization: Raytheon Company, Tewksbury, MA
Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1992 17:01:43 GMT

tgroner@jarthur.claremont.edu (NecroPuke) writes:

>I have been in Russia for the last six months and while I was gone
>my dad bought a 1992 Yamaha Seca II for me with my wages. It is 
>uninsured, unregistered, and I am unlicensed and unexperienced. I
>need a LOT of help. I need to know everything from how to best insure
>it to how to go about buying equipment to how to ride to how to 
>break the darn thing in. Background,etc: I had a Kawasaki EX500 for
>a few months under very strange circumstances which allowed me to
>avoid paperwork of any sort, so I do know the basics of riding, but
>that is about it. I live and go to school in Illinois. Anybody who
>wishes to attack the monstrous task of decreasing my ignorance will
>have my gratitude.
>    I hereby claim the DoD# 9689.

>                    Todd
>--------------------------------------------------------------------
>Todd Groner, DoD# 9689, Yamaha Seca II (Scotia)     "Spoon!"  ---Tick

Gee! does your dad need help in buying any other motorcycles for anyone?
I volunteer ...

To answer your question, take the MSF:RSS  intro riding class. It will teach you
the basics, give you practice time, save you money on your insurance, and
meet some good people.  I don't have the 800 number in front of me,
but any MC mag will have a MSF (Motorcycle Safety Foundation) advert. with
the phone number. Your local reputable(?) bike shop should also participate
in the MSF, and may pay for your class if you go to the dealer where the bike
was purchased (showing proof of).

after that, ride ride ride (practice ...)

BTW, what's the signif. of 9689?

S.

-- 
#   Scott Lilliott -- csl@swl.msd.ray.com 
 #  AMA #600897   "Countersteering is like benchracing. A bunch of posers   
#   DoD #0227      standing around the parts counter lying about all the
 #  INOA #8563     great twisties they've steered through."- Bill Ranck DoD 496
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: e3uvlb@fnma.COM (Vic)
Subject: Looking for opinions about '84 V-30 Magna
Reply-To: e3uvlb@fnma.COM
Organization: Fannie Mae
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 20:57:05 GMT

I have an opportunity to buy a 1984 V30 Magna w/10,000k miles.
It looks well maintained.  The "asking" price is $1,600.

It will be for a beginner to ride for a year or two on short
commutes and on an occasional long weekend jaunt (~500/600 mi).

Any opinions, experience with this bike, etc.

Thanks...
From: gaijin@ale.Japan.Sun.COM (John Little - Nihon Sun Repair Depot)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Wet Brakes (was)Re: Fun
Date: 21 Dec 1992 04:38:49 GMT
Organization: Nihon Sun Microsystems - Atsugi Technical Centre - JAPAN.
NNTP-Posting-Host: ale.japan.sun.com

In article <1992Dec18.180730.10757@colorado.edu> \
alex@csn.org (ALEX MATTHEWS) writes:
%  
%  Riding in the rain is a very personal
%  experience -- all the cars have their windows rolled up, all the dogs
%  are inside by the radiator, the horses have wandered back to the barn,
%  

   ...and most of the bugs are sheltering under a leaf somewhere, so  it's
   finally safe  to sing!   Oh,  apart from  when you're  overtaking  that
   eighteen-wheeler, of course (unless you enjoy gargling)!

-- 
   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
  | John Little  - gaijin@Japan.Sun.COM  - Sun Microsystems. Atsugi, Japan | 
   ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: bergman@panix.com (Mark Bergman)
Subject: Re: Wet Brakes (was)Re: Fun
Date: Sat, 19 Dec 1992 07:41:00 GMT
Organization: PANIX Public Access Unix & Internet, NYC

In article <1992Dec18.180730.10757@colorado.edu> alex@csn.org (ALEX MATTHEWS) writes:
>In article <1992Dec18.141932.2624@cbnews.cb.att.com> nak@cbnews.cb.att.com (neil.a.kirby) writes:
>>In article <1992Dec17.221920.5835@news.columbia.edu> scs8@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Sebastian C Sears) writes:
>>>
>>>	ObRain> Anyone ever do any practicing with *wet* brakes? 
>>
>>Before doing this, I humble advise going out and looking at your front
>>brake.  If it is a disk with no holes in it, be really careful.  
>
>And if it is a disk *with* holes in it, be really careful.  This holes/
>no holes debate died an ugly death here on rec.moto several months ago.
>The conclusion was that disks were drilled as much for stylistic reasons
>as for engineering ones.  
>
>And if you require a testimonial, consider that on my bikes the limiting
>factor in wet and dry braking is the pads.  Both drilled- and solid-rotor
>bikes (GS550, GS450) brake well in the rain with stock Suzuki pads, but the
>EBC pads are dogs in the rain.  This difference far exceeds any difference
>due to rotor, caliper, and chassis design.  
>
Ahem, I beg to differ. On my bike ('77 KZ1000) I've gradualy
upgraded the front end (same wheel, forks) from a single,
undrilled disk to dual drilled disks. At one point (due to
shipping delay on custom brake line) I went from a solid to
drilled single disk, with no change in caliper or pads, and
just the one disk. The braking improvement under dry
conditions was minimal, under wet it was tremendous! My
conslusion: the disk itself doesn't know shit about physics,
cooling, rotational intertia, unsprung weight, llamas or the
DoD. It does know enough to put all that nasty water into
those convenient holes when it gets slapped by a couple of
pads!

>ObOriginalThread:  In some ways I really miss riding in those day-long
>East coast drizzles.
[ Lots of wonderful stuff about the meta-mental attitude
sinde about riding, esp. in the rain. If you missed it, go
back!]

I agree wholeheartedly. People think I'm crazy when they see
me riding in the rain and cold. Properly dressed, and for
short trips, I'm physically more comfortable than they are
after they get wet walking to their car! I give them all
sorts of reasons that they (poor, brainless cagers) can
understand ("The bike is still better than the subway,
parking is easy, I don't have a car...) but none of them
would understand the pleasure one can get from riding,
and sometimes the rain adds to that.

Thank you for putting it so well.

BTW, I didn't ride during last week's Nor'Easter. I don't
regret that!
>
>-- 
>- Alex Matthews  (new address: alexm.csn.org)
>
>  "A typical Grand Prix race.  High noon.  Tension mounts.  Throttles clench."
>                        Patricia Zonker, _Murdercycles_


----
Mark Bergman		'77 KZ1000
Brooklyn, NY
718-855-9148

bergman@panix.com
{cmcl2,uunet}!panix!bergman
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu
Subject: Re: Widder Address?
Organization: New York University
Date: Fri, 11 Dec 1992 23:06:16 GMT

In article <Bz3s9K.Dqu@javelin.sim.es.com>, blgardne@javelin.sim.es.com (Dances With Bikers) writes:
> mullignj@acfcluster.nyu.edu writes:
> 
>>Does have an address for Widder?  Thanks!
> 
> No address handy, but the phone number is:
> 
> 1-800-WYB-COLD

That *is* cute.  Thanks!  I'll call them right now!


> 
> C--------------------------------------------

Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Re: Fabulous DoD Babes For Jeff
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 22:13:30 GMT

In article <1992Dec18.155656.22535@spdc.ti.com> achenbac@epcot.spdc.ti.com (Jeff Achenbach) writes:
}Well, for a real workout I sometimes use the 32oz ones. Strange how with
}succeeding reps they get lighter.

A friend tore his knee up playing basketball and had to do exercises
to strengthen the knee. His doctor told him the following was foolproof:

Come home in the evening, get a bucket of ice water, a six-pack of beer,
and an easy chair. Put the bucket of ice at your feet, strap the six-pack
to the top of your foot, and put your foot in the ice water. This results
in the following:

1) The ice will make you want to lift your foot up out of the ice, and
the weight of the beer along with it. This is the correct exercise for
your knee.

2) To keep your knee from getting too tired or overworked, you should
gradually decrease the weight but keep moving the knee. This is
accomplished naturally as you drink the beer.

3) When the weight has been reduced to zero, you have exercised enough.
You will naturally stop, as your foot will be frozen, your knee will
be tired, and you'll have to get up to go to the bathroom anyway.

This sounds a lot better than my knee rehab, in which Helga the
Horrible, an employee of the Mountain View Pain Tolerance Threshold
Research Clinic, would swear to me I only had to do 10 reps of pulling
her across the floor on her chair by bending my knee while she held
onto my ankle and dug in her heels. At the end of 10 reps, she'd get
this eerie gleam in her eyes and start salivating and immediately say,
"OK, only 10 more now!"
-- 
Curtis Jackson  DoD #721   '62 Yankee Brunette "Dorothy"    '81 Maxim 650
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com   '91 Black Lab "Studley"  '92 Collie/Golden "George"
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
From: cjackson@adobe.com (Curtis Jackson)
Subject: Any thoughts on '83 Kawasaki GPZ1100?
Organization: Adobe Systems Incorporated, Mountain View
Date: Wed, 16 Dec 1992 21:27:31 GMT

I'm looking at a GPZ1100 still owned by the original owner, who
wants to sell it because his wife says he has to sell one bike
to help pay for the new house, and he won't sell his Harley.
It has roughly 4000 miles on it. Any thoughts on this bike?
Known problems? Advice on things to check out when I look at
and test ride it?

Thanks,
-- 
Curtis Jackson  DoD #721   '62 Yankee Brunette "Dorothy"    '81 Maxim 650
cjackson@mv.us.adobe.com   '91 Black Lab "Studley"  '92 Collie/Golden "George"
  "They that can give up an essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
   safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin (1759)
From: lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se (Stamos Stamos)
Newsgroups: rec.motorcycles
Subject: Re: Neat AGV helmet on TV (I wish... list)
Date: 15 Dec 92 19:37:04 GMT
Organization: Ericsson Communications Inc. Montreal, Canada
X-Disclaimer: This article was posted by a user at Ericsson.
              Any opinions expressed are strictly those of the
              user and not necessarily those of Ericsson.

In article <BzB2xK.GJE@austin.ibm.com> bade@wombat.austin.ibm.com writes:
>
>AGV helmet he has on.  It seems that there is a packet of "coolant" and
>a minature heat pump with a "radiator" on the top of the helmet.  Plug 
>it into the bikes electrical system and you have a cool head during the
>summer and flip a switch to heat in the winter.   Not a bad idea.  Looked
>nice and compact.  I'm not sure if it is an aftermarket addon and they
>just used a AGV, or it AGV is putting it on the helmets at the factory.
>
>



About as useful as connecting bar-bells to your head to strengthen your
neck muscles.

The only time I will be excited about a helmet is if it has "active noise
reduction", reducing wind noise by say 40 db. A helmet that doesn't 
need ear plugs!
And when they have made plenty of money on that design they can adapt the
active noise reduction system to all these 'straight through' exhausts.

And while I am dreaming I would like a neural net ignition/fuel injection
controller. You know a self modifying one that would set the ignition/advance
/spark/fuel ratio based on feedback from engine output. Would never have
to adjust that fuel ratio/ignition advance-duration ever again! 
And why not?
If MIT can make 'Insect' 'self-contained' (proceser&power supply onboard) 
robots that learn to walk every time you switch it on why not a simple
ignition thingie. When they are switched on all their legs 'walk' in different
directions, but in a few seconds it 'learns' how to coordinate all of its
legs to allow it to walk, and all this with minimal processing power.

Then I would like variable cams on my 300lb carbon-fibered engined framed ZX.
(Or maybe a Ducati that can be thrashed like a Jap bike can.(achhemm and still
stay together))

Oh Father Christmas, are you a biker?






--
Stamos <lmcstst@noah.ericsson.se>            ZZR11            Ellas
Ericsson, Cellular Design
Montreal, Canada.