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From: sfr@wcusv1.NoSubdomain.NoDomain (Steven Schaeffer)
Subject: Re: Wanted: program that will simulate unix on vms
Organization: Idaho National Engineering Laboratory, Idaho Falls, Idaho
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 92 15:07:02 GMT

In article <1992Aug27.115222.23396@dcatlas.dot.gov>, sethg@dcatlas.dot.gov (Seth Grimes) writes:
|> kent@loral.cts.com (Kent Yang) writes:
|> 
|> >I have just been put on a VMS project and being a unix programmer all
|> >my life, I was wondering if there are any public domain or free software
|> >that will allow me to simulate unix commands on a vms OS.  If you know
|> >of such a program and where I can get it.  Please send me email or
|> >leave a reply on the net.  
|> 
|> Yes, VMS Posix.  It's a performance dog and it will cost you, however.

Cost you? The cover letter says "The right to use VMS POSIX Version 1.0 is
included with your VMS Version 5.5 license." The doc set will cost you $312 but
the software is included if you have CONDIST (CDs) otherwise a media and doc kit
is probably in the neighborhood of $450, don't have a listing on that one. Pretty
darn cheap for what you get!

I haven't received my docs yet so I haven't installed and can't comment on the
performance but from reading the information in the installation guide, release
notes and SPD it looks like just the ticket for guys like Kent.

Steve

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From: ptran@envmsa.eas.asu.edu (Phi-Long Tran)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: What is MMS???
Date: 30 Aug 92 04:18:00 GMT
Article-I.D.: envmsa.29AUG199221183823
Organization: Arizona State University, Tempe, AZ
News-Software: VAX/VMS VNEWS 1.4-b1

In article <1992Aug28.160531.309@lime.ems.com>, mjb@lime.ems.com writes...

> A program (lpd) I got from vmsnet.sources wants me to use MMS to build
> the ..exe.  What is MMS?  Where do you get it? and if not can I use
> something else?

     MMS is the DEC VAX/VMS Module Management Software, the VMS equivalent
of the UNIX "make" utility.  Like "make", MMS aids in maintaining files by
declaring rules on transforming source files into target files.  The file
containing the rules is called a "makefile" (from the UNIX make program).
I am not sure where you can get it, although I believe it is a DEC product.
I hope this information helps.

---
Phi-Long Tran
ptran@asuvax.eas.asu.edu
Arizona State University
From: bear@nuc.anu.edu.au (Bernhard Fabricius)
Subject: Re: Editing large files with TPU
Reply-To: BEAR@NUC.ANU.EDU.AU
Organization: Nuclear Physics, ANU
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 92 01:10:13 GMT


In article <1992Aug27.104912.1@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu>, 
                fairfield@slacvx.slac.stanford.edu writes:
|>
|>In article <1992Aug27.115111.23317@dcatlas.dot.gov>, sethg@dcatlas.dot.gov 
|>(Seth Grimes) writes:
|>> 
|>> Wasn't the record-length limitation to 960 characters lifted (for all
|>> practical purposes -- new limit is large) as of VMS version 5.5?
|>
|>    I don't _think_ so...there was nothing in the V5.5, nor the V5.5-1,
|>release notes that refers to lifting this restriction...

Furtunately, things don't _have_ to be listed in the release notes to be true.
I have quite happily edited 2098 character lines in TPU under VMS V5.5 (in fact
I am writing this with TPU/EDT emulation and [PF1][2/@][0/)][9/(][8/*][x] makes
a line with 2098 x's without problems!). So Karen can either upgrade to V5.5 or
use a small program to chop up the file in shorter bits if shw must edit it.

Cheers

Bernhard
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From: mahan@TGV.COM (Patrick L. Mahan)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: X server transport attach?
Date: 27 Aug 92 22:27:42 GMT
Organization: The Internet

In article <2234@fnnews.fnal.gov> you write:
#
#Anyone have a clue why the X server is having a problem as shown from this
#excerpt of DECW$SERVER_0_ERROR.LOG
#
	[omitted]
#
#DECW$TRANSPORT_TCPIP image base address: 0018B200
#%DECW-W-ATT_FAIL, failed to attach transport TCPIP
#-SYSTEM-W-ENDOFFILE, end of file
#
#End of what file?  Yes SYS$LIBRARY:DECW$TRANSPORT_TCPIP.EXE is there.  As a
#matter of fact, there are a bunch of other workstations in the cluster that
#almost identical that don't have this problem.  Any ideas?
#

This means that the associated host file does not contain the localmachine's
host name.  For example, if you are using MultiNet and the VAXstation's name
is foo.bar.com, you must have an entry for foo.bar.com in MultiNet:Hosts.Local.

--
Patrick L. Mahan

--- TGV Window Washer ------------------------------- Mahan@TGV.COM ---------

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a capital crime.  For a first offense, that is            From the Notebooks of
							  Lazarus Long
From: DESMITH_N@COLLOQUIUM.CO.UK (Nick de Smith)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: RE: Disk quota report facility wanted?
Date: 31 Aug 92 09:17:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

Hi,

Jack Reardon <JREARDON@EDU.MASS.RCN.RCNVMS> wrote:

>   We currently review diskquota use by eyeballing terminal output from
>the DISKQUOTA utility.  We are running VMS 5.5-1
>Is there software available that formats diskquota data?  We look 
>at things like:
>      - over quota
>      - close to quota (90% of allocation used)
>      - top ten disk users (arbitrary number)
>      - unusally high quota allocation everything over our normal allocation
>
>Any pointers to SW would be appreciated.      

I wrote a utility (all in DCL, of course!) called SORT_DISQUOTA a while ago - It
was posted to Info-VAX, but I can send you a copy if you want. It will do
everything you want, and also ssort all the entries by UIC to make the listing
far easier to read. As its in DCL its really easy to make it do anything else
you want. In its default form, it doesn't give you the top ten users, but that
should take all of five minutes to add. It also tells you how "over-subscribed"
your disk is (total quotas vs. disk size) and can generate load files for
copying one disk's quota information to another (either merging it or creating a
new quota file). This utility is also on DECUS tapes somewhere.

Have fun!

Nick	NICK@NCDLAB.ULCC.AC.UK

PS. Nowadays its not so easy for me to post, so if you want/find a local copy,
let me know.
From: karin@zach.fit.edu (Karin Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: DCL question again
Date: 23 Aug 92 17:08:36 GMT
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

In article <1992Aug13.164237.18724@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu> uucm000@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu (Tingli Pan) writes:
>Here is another DCL question from me. (obvioustly I'm working in a small
>DCL project) Is there a way to find whether a file is locked or not on
>the DCL level.
> 
>Tingli Pan                           Bitnet:   uucm000@ecnuxa.bitnet
>Academic Computing Services          Internet: uucm000@uxa.ecn.bgu.edu
>Northeastern Illinois University  

I have found one failsafe way to find out if a file is open/locked and 
by whom, if so.  Use the SHOW DEVICE/FILE <disk> command.  This will
not tell you what the logical filename is, in cases where the user has
done a DEFINE/ASSIGN, but at least you'll know if the file is open.

Hope this helps.

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: SHUTTERS_WC@TOTO.LAAFB.AF.MIL
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Questions about VMS image accounting
Date: 1 Sep 92 16:29:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

A question for all you INFO-VAXers.

Since time immemorial, the VAXen here at our site have been performing image
accounting.  Recently we have come into a bit if a disk space crunch; it was
suggested that we could save a lot of disk space if we turned off image
accounting.  I am evaluating that suggestion, primarily from a security
standpoint. 

Basic facts concerning our system:

- It services military personnel, so security is important.
- We do not "charge" organizations for computer time or images activated.
- We do perform fairly comprehensive security auditing.

My questions:

1.  How useful would image accounting records be in the case of a breach in
system security?  I have noted that even the ACCOUNTING/FULL report does not
show a whole lot of useful information about what was actually being done by
the activated image.

2.  Is there any way to get further information about a specific image
activation that was recorded by image accounting?  If more specific information
cannot be obtained about the various accounting entries, I can't see the point
in creating them.


Please mail your replies to me and I will summarize and post.

Thanks for your time,

Capt Chris Shutters, Air Force Space    | shutters_wc@toto.laafb.af.mil
Command, Falcon AFB, CO (719)-550-2618  | shutterswc@space.laafb.af.mil
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From: an288@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Hittinger)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: WOW - 3100 model 80!
Date: 3 Sep 92 04:18:33 GMT
Reply-To: an288@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Mark Hittinger)
Organization: Case Western Reserve University, Cleveland, OH (USA)
NNTP-Posting-Host: slc4.ins.cwru.edu



Hey dudes I just swapped out a microvaxII cluster with crufty RD disks.
Replaced it with a 3100 model 80.  For a VAX its a screamer.  Really good
i/o's.  This is probably the best box to come out of DEC since the 8650
in my opinion.  For those with applications that you don't want to migrate
yet you might want to check this box out.  Good price/performance for a vax.
I'm anxious to get my hands on a model 90 now.

Kind of surprised DEC isn't pushing this more.
-- 
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NO DAD!! You're supposed to type it in with downer case letters!
From: oberman@ptavv.llnl.gov
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Editing large files with TPU
Date: 27 Aug 92 01:20:43 GMT

In article <01GO0EHHKABK0007D3@BENTLEY.BITNET>, KPETERSO@BENTLEY.BITNET writes:
> I am trying to EDIT/TPU (EVE) a 29553 block file and coming up
> with errors.  When I EVE the filename, the machine thinks about
> it, then I recieve the following error message:
> 
> 2098 byte record to large for users buffer
> 

Neither the size of the file, quotas, or the system are involved.

TPU has an internal record buffer of fixed size. I should remember what it is,
but I don't right now. Either 1024 or 2048. I suspect the latter.

Your file has at least one record of 2098 bytes. That blows TPU out of the
water. There is no way to edit such a file with TPU as far as I know. SED
should work on it, though. (No, I don't remember where to get it, either.
(Senility!)

Since 2098 is a bit long for a normal text file, maybe it is corrupt, or maybe
you can use FILE or CONVERT to make it more manageable. For things like
PostScript files, FILE/RECORD_SIZE=128/TYPE=FIXED is pretty handy. But don't
try this on a variable record file. You may get total hash. I'm assuming that
the file is a stream type or a fixed type, already.

R. Kevin Oberman			Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory
Internet: koberman@llnl.gov		(510) 422-6955

Disclaimer: Don't take this too seriously. I just like to improve my typing
and probably don't really know anything useful about anything.
From: KIPPENHAN@DCD00.FNAL.GOV (H.A. Kippenhan Jr.)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Contact information for Joiner Associates
Date: 27 Aug 92 18:39:07 GMT
Article-I.D.: fndcd.920827133907.20200f44
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


	I apologize for burdening the list with this.  I attempted to
	send the message to Rainer privately, but those attempts failed.
	Here's the contact information for Joiner Associates.

	The data may be a bit dated (about 18 months old), but try this:

	Joiner Associates, Inc.
	3800 Regent Street
	P.O. Box 5445
	Madison, Wisconsin 53705-0445

	Telephone: +1 (608) 238-8637
	FAX:	   +1 (608) 238-2908

	The director of marketing at that time was Bruce Koenig.  His
	E-mail address was KOENIG@WISCPSL (BITnet).

	I hope this is of some help.

	Best regards!

	- Kipp -

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From: ARNE@ko.hhs.dk (Arne Vajhxj)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Questions about VMS image accounting
Date: 2 Sep 92 11:13:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> Since time immemorial, the VAXen here at our site have been performing image
> accounting.  Recently we have come into a bit if a disk space crunch; it was
> suggested that we could save a lot of disk space if we turned off image
> accounting.

The accounting files are growing more than without image accounting.
The relative overhead depends on the ration between image-activations
and process-creations.

But please note, that image accounting also takes performance. It is often
recommended only to put image accouting on specific images (via INSTALL) instead
of a general approach.

>             I am evaluating that suggestion, primarily from a security
> standpoint.
> 
> Basic facts concerning our system:
> 
> - It services military personnel, so security is important.
> - We do not "charge" organizations for computer time or images activated.
> - We do perform fairly comprehensive security auditing.
> 
> My questions:
> 
> 1.  How useful would image accounting records be in the case of a breach in
> system security?  I have noted that even the ACCOUNTING/FULL report does not
> show a whole lot of useful information about what was actually being done by
> the activated image.

Well - you can what images they have been using !  Usefull ?  Depends !

Consider a breakin using:

DIRECTORY.EXE
SHOW.EXE

and a breakin using:

FORTRAN.EXE
LINK.EXE
whatsoever.EXE

and a breakin using:

AUTHORIZE.EXE
INSTALL.EXE

which one will make you most worried ?

> 2.  Is there any way to get further information about a specific image
> activation that was recorded by image accounting?  If more specific information
> cannot be obtained about the various accounting entries, I can't see the point
> in creating them.

Probably not. VMS is a rather secure OS and designed for not allowing anyone
to get so far, that this breakin-intrusion is relevant.

A few ideas:
  - You can put security alarms on special sensitive data-file, so you can
    log all accesses to them (both failure and success).
  - You can monitor the output to terminal with a WATCH utility, if you
    have a suspect (I do not think it would be effeicient to implement a
    automatic logging of all interactive sessions).

                                                          Arne

Arne Vajhxj                             local DECNET:  KO::ARNE
Computer Department                     PSI:           PSI%23831001304030::ARNE
Business School of Southern Denmark     Internet:      ARNE@KO.HHS.DK


Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Subject: RE: Memory listing
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 92 14:21:36 GMT

In article <9209030330.AA08859@ucbvax.Berkeley.EDU>, FORT@RAMPOD-WR.AF.MIL ("TOM FORT") writes:
>
>WHAT I'M CURIOUS ABOUT IS THE LINE : 
>
>"Of the physical pages in use, 4294964587 pages are permanently allocated 
>to VMS."
>
>THAT PUTS YOUR MEMORY CAPACITY IN THE TERABYTE RANGE!!!

This number is just 2709 pages short of 2**32. So I suspect the actual
value is supposed to be 2709. The "bad pages" problem is probably the
culprit here.

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From: BRANDT@MUVAXA.RFERL.ORG
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Problems installing software (question ...)
Date: 3 Sep 92 11:28:59 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


Andy asks:
>Multinet -->    the VERY last stage (configure) crashes, trying to
>                compile the data file that holds ip address, etc. with
>                an over quota error (what quota it doesn't say)
>                (I'm just throwing this one in.... no idea if it's
>                related to the others....)
>

I don';t know about the rest of your problems, but this one is almost
certainly the ENQlm of the account you are using to do the install.  I had
this problem myself. The install failed during the IVP with a exquota error. 
In the UAF, modify your system account to have an ENQlm = 4000.  This should
work (it did for me).  Also, be sure your FILLM >= 100, BYTlm >= 32768 (I
needed 40,000 for one installation), and PGFLquo >= 15000 (I needed 30000
once).

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8 Munich 22, Germany 

Xref: sparky comp.os.vms:14602 vmsnet.sysmgt:246
From: aalto@cc.helsinki.fi (Erkki '\rkki' Aalto, University of Helsinki)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.sysmgt
Subject: HELP! Damaged disk
Date: 4 Sep 92 13:55:51 GMT
Organization: University of Helsinki

Lightning has damaged directory information on a MicroVAX II disk in Mets{hovi
Observatory. The disk contains two weeks' astronomical measurements.
DEC would take FIM 800 per hour for salvaging the data. Does anyone have any
experience on cases like this? Is there something we could do ourselves,
and approximately how long would it take from DEC?

Erkki Aalto

University of Helsinki, Finland

Erkki.Aalto@Helsinki.FI
From: munroe@dmc.com (Dick Munroe)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Looking for Newsreader software
Date: 30 Aug 92 13:29:42 EDT
Organization: Doyle, Munroe Consultants, Inc., Hudson, MA

In article <1992Aug29.170329.29824@news.iastate.edu>, gvrod@isuvax.iastate.edu (R Eldridge, VMS FOREVER) writes:
> NEWSRDR		- Available for Anonymous FTP on
> 		vms.ecs.rpi.edu/vms2.ecs.rpi.edu in directory
> 		[ANONYMOUS.NEWSRDR].  It is also available through E-mail
> 		distribution from Fileserv@vms.ecs.rpi.edu (FILESERV@RPIECSVX
> 		for BITNET users) -- send a one-line E-mail message with the
> 		command HELP to that address for more information.  Current
> 		contact is Matt Madison (madison@mdmvs.ecs.rpi.edu).
> ...
> at my site, we use NEWSRDR. IMHO, Matt Madison creates outstanding software
> products and documentation.
> 

I agree about Matt's software.  You should be aware that he now
works for TGV and his software (at least MX, I have NO idea about
the rest) is now supported by Hunter Goatley
(goathunter@wkuvx1.bitnet) and available from
fileserv@wkuvx1.bitnet.  There is an ftp site as well, but I
don't remember what it is at the moment.
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From: rankin@EQL.CALTECH.EDU (Pat Rankin)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Lex or Flex for VMS?
Date: 3 Sep 92 22:55:13 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

> Is there a VMS Version of either lex or flex and where can I get it?

     Flex has been ported to VMS and the regular source distribution
supports it (including a makefile for use with MMS).  I vaguely recall
needing to make a couple of minor changes in order to build it (that
was a year or two ago).

     VMS POSIX and the old DEC/Shell product both contain lex (and
also yacc).

		Pat Rankin, rankin@eql.caltech.edu

Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,vmsnet.misc
From: jvb7u@fermi.clas.Virginia.EDU (Jon Brinkmann)
Subject: File comparison utility
Organization: Department of Astronomy, University of Virginia
Date: Sat, 29 Aug 1992 01:08:50 GMT

Does anyone know of a utility for comparing the files in two different
directories in order to remove duplicates?  My situation is that the
files have the same names, but may have different version numbers.

Please respond via Email and I'll summarize on the net if anyone is
interested.

Jon
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From: winston@ssrl01.slac.stanford.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Does GhostScript support LN03
Date: 28 Aug 92 21:05:13 GMT
Organization: SSRL, Stanford Synchrotron Radiation Lab

Folks --

I've been offered a plain-vanilla LN03 printer, which is not otherwise
currently in use.  I'd like to be able to do graphics and dtp output to
the printer, which is not directly supported under all the programs I want
to use.  There is basically no money available to upgrade the printer or
buy DEC's LN03 Image software.

So, does anybody know whether GhostScript, the GNU PostScript interpreter,
supports the plain-vanilla LN03 as an output device?  If so,
how good a job does it do?  How much memory does the printer need?  Where
can I get the VMS port?

I read this group regularly, so will see responses if posted.  If you send
me e-mail, I will summarize.

Thanks,

-- Alan

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