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From: Ian.Parker@f1.n700.z6.fidonet.org (Ian Parker)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: VMS 5.5
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:25:14 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet


 On 08-19-92 dfilip wrote to All... 
 
 d >  
 d > We are running about 20 sites on VMS 5.5, and actually the only real 
 d > problem we found was the queue manager, which tends to get into fits of 
 d > continually pausing queues. The fix is to stop the queue manager and  
 d > start the queue manager with a new queue file (there may be an eaiser  
 d > way, but this tends to work for us). 
 d >  
 d > We recently (about three weeks ago) got the -1 upgrade, and have been 
 d > installing that. I don't believe we have had any queue problems on the 
 d > -1 systems. 
 
dave 
 
Thanks.  You've just answered a question I hadn't realised I was going to  
have to ask.  I've been seeing unexplained pauses for the past month 
or so, but hadn't started to investigate yet.  You may have saved some time. 
 
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: phil@gsbsun.uchicago.edu (Phil Means )
Subject: Re: Submitting Jobs for Last Day of Month
Organization: University of Chicago Computing Organizations
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 1992 16:10:30 GMT

jmacdonald@mta.ca writes:

>I am wondering if anyone has a nifty way to have jobs submit themselves for the
>last day of the month.  Thank-you.

>Jane MacDonald (jmacdonald@mta.ca)
>Jr. Systems Programmer
>Computing Services
>Mount Allison University
>Sackville, New Brunswick
>Canada

Use the F$CVTIME lexical and a negative combination time, e.g. --

NEXT_TIME = F$CVTIME("1-SEP-1992 -12:00",,)

the return value for NEXT_TIME will be noon on the last day of August.

Phil Means
phil@gsbsun@uchicago.edu

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From: DION@OJC.Colorado.EDU ("Computer Center Ext. 6839")
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: WANTED: Extracting utility for VMS_SHARE
Date: 2 Sep 92 15:14:20 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

I was wondering if anyone would happen to have a utility that extracts VMS_SHARE
files in the correct order.  This would be nice when there are over 30 or so 
files to be extracted.  Thanks!!!

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Dion Medina     |  Student VAX/VMS Systems Operator  |  I spilled spot remover
P.O. Box 546    |    *** Otero Junior College ***    |  on my dog & now he's
Swink, CO 81077 |    DECnet:  OJC::DION              |  gone.         
(719) 384-5724  |  Internet:  dion@ojc.colorado.edu  |       --Steven Wright
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: hughes@logos.ucs.indiana.edu (larry hughes)
Subject: Re: POP server for VMS
Organization: University Computing Services News
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 15:32:15 GMT

>Bonjour,
>A propos de POP ... Est-ce le meme ?
>(j'ai aussi envoye ce message a Luc Boullard)
>Michel Bartholome

As I don't speak French (is that even the right language?) I'm
not exactly sure what the question is, but it seems to be about
the availability of POP3 servers for VMS.

IUPOP3 is such a server, and has been used successfully on VMS 5.3,
5.4, and 5.5.  It works with UCX, WIN/TCP, and Multinet.  It's also
a multithreaded server, so it won't create a process for every
client connection.

Source is available for anonymous ftp on logos.ucs.indiana.edu
(129.79.17.29) in /pub/iupop3. 

 //==================================================================\\
||      Larry J. Hughes, Jr.       |        hughes@indiana.edu        || 
||       Indiana University        | "The person who knows everything ||
||  University Computing Services  |        has a lot to learn."      ||
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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker)
Subject: Re: RE:Will lmf kill alpha???
Reply-To: Hallam@zeus02.desy.de
Organization: Deutsches Elektronen Synchrotron, Experiment ZEUS bei HERA
Date: Thu, 3 Sep 1992 18:54:36 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.163023.1@vxdesy.desy.de>, pawlak@vxdesy.desy.de writes:
|>In article <1992Sep1.000203.24063@dscomsf.desy.de>, hallam@zeus02.desy.de
|>(Phill Hallam-Baker) writes:
 
|>> What is worse is that after buggering up the system with a new version one
|>can't
|>> always move back, by the time the full import of the release notes becomes
|>> apparent something else has been done to the system. Thus the unwary
|>discover
|>> that after three days of installing everything under the sun that their
|>original
|>> idea of getting phigs and GKS-3D working at the same time is a non starter
|>and
|>> have to scrub everything out and start again to go back to the versions
|>that
|>> would talk to each other :-(
|>> 
|>Sorry Phil, you are talking (writing?) s**t this time. You don't need to 
|>install the product to get the release notes - you can pull them out of
|>the distribution (VMSINSTAL option N does it if I'm not mistaken). And
|>reasonable people do it before going on with installation.
|>For not being able to go back - well, only a fool installs anything
|>on a system without a fresh backup...

The problem comes when the person requesting the installation is not the person
going to do it. The problem comes when one is installing version B of a product
in the hope that the bugs in version A were fixed. By the time one has got to
the point of pulling the release notes out of the kit one might as well go ahead
and continue the installation.

As for the backup, it's waiting to make the *%$&^ backup thats the painful part
of the whole installation, unless you happen to like sitting down in the
computer room feeding TK50s into the things cake hole. Ah yes you have saved
yourself the embarassment of having screwed the system up permenently, however
you are now going to have to sit in the computer room again for 5 hours feeding
the tapes in while everyone else is off in the Alte Khat.

Either that or you place a one line note in the NEWS facility:-

GKS 3D is no longer avaliable.


--

Phill Hallam-Baker
From: MPHTOBIN@orbsen.ucg.ie (I didn't dare disturb the universe this morning)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: VMS A5.5 ???? (Not V5.5!)
Date: 28 Aug 92 14:07:00 GMT
Organization: The Internet

Has anyone seen anything like this:

$ show system
VAX/VMS A5.5  on node ORBSEN  28-AUG-1992 14:00:26.42   Uptime  0 04:31:11
  Pid    Process Name    State  Pri      I/O       CPU       Page flts Ph.Mem
00000101 SWAPPER         HIB     16        0   0 00:00:01.10         0      0   
[...]
$ write sys$output f$getsyi("version")
A5.5

Is this some special version of VMS?  The machine was recently upgraded and 
suddenly the V becomes an A!!  We have another machine here running 5.5 and 
it's a V.  One problem that immediately comes to mind is that VMS Share will 
not work anymore... more than likely there will be others.

Thank you very much,

Rick Tobin
mphtobin@orbsen.ucg.ie
From: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com (Bob Marshall)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Submitting Jobs for Last Day of Month
Date: 25 Aug 92 16:56:50 GMT
Reply-To: marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com
Organization: LMSC, Sunnyvale, California

In article <1992Aug25.142017.1300@Rapnet.Sanders.Lockheed.Com>, 
mores@eavax.sanders.lockheed.com (David C. Mores) writes:
>--
>Yes, it is fairly easy.  Using lexical functions you should be able to create
>a text string for the first day of the next month.  Given that, it is just a
>simple matter of one day before as follows:
>
>	$ submit xxx.com/after="1-SEP-1992-1 0:0"
>
>The "-1 0:0" says one day before 1-SEP-1992.  Read more on this in the VMS DCL
>Concepts manual.

Almost. The "-1 0:0" in this case actually is equivalent to "-10:0" (the
space is ignored), which in this case stands for hours. So the job would
get submitted 10 hours before midnight on 1-SEP-1992, or 31-AUG-1992:14:00.
True, it does happen to do what the poster was asking for, but for the
wrong reason. In general, to start the job at time hh:mm on the last 
day of the month it should be :

	$ submit xxx.com/after="1-SEP-1992:hh:mm-1-"

A sample command procedure (which admittedly has lots of room for
improvement) for submitting the job at 00:00:00 on the last day
of the current month :

  $ dom = f$cvtime(,,"DAY")  ! Day-of-month for today
  $ v = 32 - dom             ! Delta days guaranteed to put us into next month
  $ next_month = f$cvtime("00:00:00+''v'-","ABSOLUTE") ! A day early next month
  $ next_month = "1" + f$extract(1,100,next_month) ! Replace dd with "1"
  $ submit/after="''next_month'-1-" b.com          ! Go back one day

=============================================================================
Bob Marshall                     \\     "It ain't age
Lockheed Missiles & Space Co.     \\     That makes me look this way
Sunnyvale, CA                      \\    It ain't the years, boys,
marshall@force.ssd.lmsc.lockheed.com\\   It's the miles"
"I tell the truth 'cept when I lie"  \\     - Chris LeDoux
=============================================================================
From: s01964@seb.se
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Re: equivalent to SET BOOT
Date: 3 Sep 92 08:32:56 GMT
Organization: S-E-Banken

>| 
>| 	Does anyone know if it is possible to issue an equivalent to the 
>|>>>SET BOOT <nickname> [>boot-parameters>], without bringing down the system.
>| We are running VMS5.5 on a 4010, 6320, and a 6610.  Thanks.

>There would have to be a different routine for each type of VAX as each has
>a different console.  As far as I know no such program exists although perhaps
>one or two hack have been brewed up for a particular machine or two.


I've done a small program that change the boot device for VAXstation 3100
and VAXstation 4000. Please contact me with E-mail if you want to have the
source.

/Jonas Lindholm,  jlh@seb.se  (Internet)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: pawlak@vxdesy.desy.de
Subject: Re: RE:Will lmf kill alpha???
Organization: (DESY, Hamburg, Germany)
Date: Tue, 1 Sep 1992 16:30:23 GMT

In article <1992Sep1.000203.24063@dscomsf.desy.de>, hallam@zeus02.desy.de (Phill Hallam-Baker) writes:
> [quotes deleted]
>
> Let me guess Helling uses CONDIST. For some reason DEC do not put the licence
> requirements on CONDIST, or rather they do but they are in the release notes
> which you have to install the damn thing to read. The installation notes are
> there of course but not the info on PAKs.
> 
> What is worse is that after buggering up the system with a new version one can't
> always move back, by the time the full import of the release notes becomes
> apparent something else has been done to the system. Thus the unwary discover
> that after three days of installing everything under the sun that their original
> idea of getting phigs and GKS-3D working at the same time is a non starter and
> have to scrub everything out and start again to go back to the versions that
> would talk to each other :-(
> 
Sorry Phil, you are talking (writing?) s**t this time. You don't need to 
install the product to get the release notes - you can pull them out of
the distribution (VMSINSTAL option N does it if I'm not mistaken). And
reasonable people do it before going on with installation.
For not being able to go back - well, only a fool installs anything
on a system without a fresh backup...
						Michal
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From: tihor@acf3.NYU.EDU (Stephen Tihor)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Wanted: disk fragmentation display
Date: 27 Aug 92 14:14:00 GMT
Organization: New York University

DISKEEPER's disk analysis utility if usually available as a
demo/freebie from the vendor if you fill out any of those response card
forms you get as a subscriber to the trade rags.  You might want to
contact executive software directory or else their local distributor.
From: khronis@nrb.be (Manu Khronis)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: POP server for VMS
Date: 1 Sep 92 14:37:21 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

>Bonjour,
>A propos de POP ... Est-ce le meme ?
>(j'ai aussi envoye ce message a Luc Boullard)
>Michel Bartholome

Salut,

Non ce n'est pas le meme.
Ici nous avons un serveur POP dont j'ai pu retrouver les renseingements
suivants.

1.  POPPER.BCK

VMS backup save set containing files for VMS POP3 server.  We have been
running this server under VMS 5.3-1 for several months.  It will not run
with VMS 5.4 due to changes in the password encryption algorithm.

The VMS POP3 server is based on the Berkeley Popper.  It uses callable
VMS mail.  There are 2 executables.  A front end (fe.exe) which listens
on the POP3 port (110), and a back end (be.exe) which does the work.
The 2 processes communicate by way of a VMS mailbox.  This was done to
avoid the overhead of process creation for each client session.  Also,
a variable number of back end daemons may be running at the same time
if needed.  Logging of client activity is provided.  The logical "POPLOG"
must be defined (system-wide) as the log file directory.  Also, "SYSUAF"
and "VMSMAIL" must be defined.

Programs are written in C, with one Fortran and one Macro routine.
Object and executables are included.  Programs are written for WIN/TCP,
but there is little TCP-related code.  I would guess that porting to
another TCP would be fairly easy.

Your comments are welcome.

Bill Wine
biwine@vassar.edu

Nous avons VMS 5.4 et ca a l'air de tourner. Je doit encore verifier si
Eric n'a pas du faire des modifications.

Je vais egalement envoyer cette note a Boullard.


Manuel Khronis



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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: bill@gaza.uhcc.Hawaii.Edu (William J. King)
Subject: Librarian Question..............
Organization: University of Hawaii
Distribution: usa
Date: Wed, 2 Sep 1992 23:27:29 GMT




Is it possible to specify a $ LIBRARY command that will search
for the module mame you are only interested in.
	eg.  *dump* 

$ LIBRARY /MACRO sys$library:starlet.mlb  *dump*     WOULD BE NICE IF
							IT WORKED.

thanx for suggestions.
Bill

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Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
From: crobw@cc.curtin.edu.au
Subject: Re: Am I in SYLOGIN?
Organization: Curtin University of Technology
Date: Thu, 27 Aug 1992 00:53:03 GMT

 In article <1992Jul22.113259.1@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu>, ccdk001@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu writes:
> Anyone know of a simple, fairly fullproof way to determine if an image
> is being run from SYLOGIN.COM or some other known place (step) during
> process creation?
> 
> I have an installed privileged application that I want executed during the
> login process, but I don't want users to be able to execute it directly.
> It does "things" based on an assumed state of that process/environment at
> that time particular time.  Allowing users to change their environment
> (logical names, devices, etc.) and then rerunning this image could be
> a problem in some instances.
> 
> Grabing the procedure depth/name from the clidata doesn't seem fullproof
> enough.   Checking the imagecount in the process header could work, but
> I dunno..  Patching loginout (again!) is also too messy.    I'd appreciate
> any ideas/strategies.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> ++ Dave
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> David Barkelew                  Internet: barkelew@utxvms.cc.utexas.edu
> Unix/VMS Services,              UUCP:     ...!ut-emx!utxvms!barkelew
> Computation Center              THEnet:   UTXVMS::BARKELEW
> University of Texas             BITNET:   BARKELEW@UTXVMS
> Voice: (512)471-3241            FAX:      (512)471-1582
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------

The following code from Dale Miller works well for us. I include Dale's original
answer to my posting below my .sig
 /---------------------------------------------------------------------------\
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| Curtin University         |                                                 |
| Perth, Western Australia  | psi%050529452300070:Wright_RJ                   |
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From: domiller@ualr.edu
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Wanted - callable F$environment
Date: 13 Apr 92 10:39:18 GMT
Article-I.D.: ualr.1992Apr13.103918.1
Organization: University of Arkansas at Little Rock

In article <1992Apr13.151327.1@cc.curtin.edu.au>, crobw@cc.curtin.edu.au writes:
> Is it possible for a high-level language, e.g. Fortran, to determine the full
> file specification of the .COM file from which it is running? In other words, I
> need something like a callable f$environment.
                        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
That would be useful.  However, the following piece of code does what you
requested.
	Dale
P.S. CMKRNL required.
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
 | Dale O. Miller                          | #   #  ###  #     ####         |
 | University of Arkansas at Little Rock   | #   # #   # #     #   #        |
 | 2801 S. University                      | #   # ##### #     ####         |
 | Little Rock, AR  72204-1099  USA        | #   # #   # #     #  #         |
 | (501)569-8714                           |  ###  #   # ##### #   #        |
 | DOMILLER@UALR.EDU, DOMILLER@UALR.BITNET | Disclaimer: This does not      |
 | 92-20-28 W,34-43-30 N.ICBMNET           | say what I say it doesn't say. |
 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------

	.TITLE CHECKDIR
	.IDENT /1.0/
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
;
;	This routine returns the name of the currently executing command
;	procedure.
;
;	Call with the address of a string descriptor.
;	Status is returned in R0
;
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

	.LIBRARY /SYS$LIBRARY:LIB/	; Executive macro library
	.LINK 'SYS$SYSTEM:SYS.STB'/SELECTIVE_SEARCH
	.LINK "SYS$SYSTEM:DCLDEF.STB"/SELECTIVE_SEARCH

	$PCBDEF				; Process Control Block offsets
	$STSDEF				; Command Lang defs
	$UAIDEF
;-------------------------------------------------------------------------------

	.PSECT	CODE RD,NOWRT,PIC,EXE,LONG
	.ENTRY	CHECKDIR ^M<r6,r7,r8>		; Routine entry point
	movzwl	@4(ap),r6
	movl	4(ap),r7

        $CMEXEC_S ROUTIN=200$		;call the retreival code in EXEC mode
        BLBS	R0,5$			;quit if problem (nopriv)
	BRW	90$
5$:	MOVL	#SS$_NORMAL,R0
90$:	RET				; back to the caller

200$:   .WORD   0			; Exec entry point
        MOVAL   G^CTL$AG_CLIDATA, R1    ;get address of process's cli area
        MOVAL   @PPD$L_PRC(R1), R1      ;pointer to process permanent data
        MOVAL   @PRC_L_IDFLNK(R1), R1   ;   "    to indirect command file
        MOVAB   @IDF_L_FILENAME(R1), R1 ;   "    to command proc name
        MOVZBl  (R1), r8		;save length of name
        MOVC5   r8, 1(R1), #^A' ', -	;copy name--padded with blanks--
                r6, @4(r7)		; into passed string
        MOVZWL  #SS$_NORMAL, R0		; Set success
        RET				; Return from exec
;
	.END
From: karin@zach.fit.edu (Karin Nicholson)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: Re: Set Forward via VMS MAIL
Date: 28 Aug 92 17:17:47 GMT
Followup-To: comp.os.vms
Organization: Florida Institute of Technology, Melbourne USA

In article <9208181646.AA15522@univax.fhda.edu> hasan%avax.dnet@UNIVAX.FHDA.EDU (HASAN%AVAX.DNET@UNIVAX.FHDA.EDU) writes:
>
>		Is there a way in VMS MAIL to set forward to multiple
>		accounts?
>		I was hoping to issue a command like:
>		MAIL> SET FORWARD LUCAS,DEBLER

How about creating a distribution list with multiple names, then use that to
SET FORWARD to, ala:

		MAIL> SET FORWARD @LUKE-N-DEB

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From: dittman@skitzo.dseg.ti.com (Eric Dittman)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.sys.dec,vmsnet.misc
Subject: Re: TU10 DECmagtape engineering drawings for free
Date: 26 Aug 92 22:55:28 CDT
Organization: Texas Instruments Component Test Facility

In article <1992Aug26.135029.615@skitzo.dseg.ti.com>, dittman@skitzo.dseg.ti.com (Eric Dittman) writes:
> I found a copy of the TU10 DECmagtape engineering drawings.
> I don't need the drawings, so if anyone needs them, let me
> know.  They are free to the first person that sends me mail
> asking for them.

The drawings have been claimed.
-- 
Eric Dittman                  Texas Instruments - Component Test Facility
dittman@skitzo.dseg.ti.com    (214) 578-3575
Disclaimer:  Not even my opinions.  I found them by the side of the road.
From: D7AP002@TOA.TOWSON.EDU ("Tom Ohlendorf - TSU Admin. DP,  830-3642", 410)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms
Subject: What is Wolf Test?
Date: 25 Aug 92 12:25:00 GMT
Distribution: world
Organization: The Internet

No flames please. I know this is probably not the place to ask this question
and that I'm probably wasting someone's band width; however, this list is full
of computer professionals and I need an answer from one.

A friend of mine asked me to ask colleagues if they have heard of the Wolf(e?)
Achievement Test. Apparently it is a test of basic programming skills and
knowledge given to prospective entry level employees by Giant Food. He would
like to get a basic idea of the type of questions on the test.

The people at Giant Food told him that this test is very popular. I told him
that just because I have never heard of it, doesn't mean it isn't used. Any
information would be appreciated.

To avoid flames from others regarding an off topic thread, please reply
directly to me.

Many thanks,
Tom Ohlendorf

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